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All this meeting of the Del Rock with the city council to order and welcome those of you who are here attending the meeting tonight and are welcome to those of you who are watching via the webcam, free speech, your interest in the city government. We will ask the finance officer, please call the roll.

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79 years ago today, an event took place that created a situation that inconvenienced the American people for the next four or five years.

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Greatly, called World War II, and hopefully, hopefully, younger people are aware of the significance of today.

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and I'm sure those people drove down the main street today and said why are the flags out?

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So, we remember those who lost their lives and what stand in the state of Pledge of Allegiance.

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I

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fully believe it is to the flag by the United States of America and to the Republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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next is the approval of tonight's agenda so moved by Bob to approve is there a

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second second is seconded by Chad all the favorites in the Bible saying aye

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I oppose name motion carries. It should move along a lot quickly we don't have to do the

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roll poll. Nobody on the phone so good. Next is the approval of the minutes from our

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last meeting on November 16th. In the last paragraph I talked to Claire a little bit

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the bottle already adjourned, should read Bob Meyer, move to adjourn, not exit close session.

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So noted.

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Move

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to approve.

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Move to move by Bill to approve the minutes with the one-changed noted, is there a second?

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I'll second that.

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Seconded by Michael.

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On favor of signifying, saying aye.

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Aye.

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I have a close name.

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I think everybody that's here tonight is probably here about when we enter into the discussion

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about the COVID-19 mask and all that.

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I assume that's what everybody's here for.

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Okay, so there's no other.

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This is the time if you're here and it's not on the agenda that you have that opportunity.

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So we'll move on. Now it's time for the public hearing on

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issues on renewals on liquor licenses. Resolution number 2020-16.

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The next subsequent items for the public hearing are to renew the city's liquor licenses.

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There's resolution 20-16, 17, 18, 19, and 22.

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for all the current and existing holders of liquor licenses.

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Both on sale and off sale.

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There is one that has been left off that is Prohibition Pub

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and there will be a public hearing for that license

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at our December 21st meeting.

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But with that said, all of the licenses

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have paid their license and full

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and other property taxes have also been up today

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on their properties as well.

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also with that recommend the Council approve.

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All of those resolutions associated with the liquor licenses

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will find an off sale as well as wine license

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for the dollar general, which is item half.

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So, but we need a separate motion.

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That's correct.

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You need a separate motion on each resolution.

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So, entertain a motion on 2020-16.

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Any motion to approve?

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Well, by Gary to approve, is there a second?

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I'll second that.

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Seconded by Bill.

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It is a resolution that does require a role callable.

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Please call a role.

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Smith?

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Yes.

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Ron Lovian, Bob?

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Next is resolution 20-17 for pins.

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Entertainment motion.

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Some move by Bob.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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Seconded by Chad.

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We call a role.

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Ron Lovian?

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Okay.

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Resolution 2020-19.

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County Fair.

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Shall move.

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Move by.

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Mark.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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Seconded by Gary.

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Gary.

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Okay.

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Please call the wrong.

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Orchard.

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Yes, yes, yeah, yes

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Next is twenty should be 2020 dash 20

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Alright I jump one

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See this print here so damn small

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Okay, 20, 2020 dash, 18, which is coming

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So move my chat. Is there a second? Second? Seconded by James. Please call a roll.

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Yes. Orchard? Yes. Chris? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. We already did county

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chair. So we'll move down to 2020. It should be 2020-22, right? Yes. You've got 19 in there.

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Sorry make that correction on motion so moved moved by bill is here a second

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Check it. They can be by mark. Please call roll

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and we have item f which is a wine license for dollars general

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some move by Bob to approve is their second. Seconded by Chad, please call the roll.

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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

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Moving into old business, these are the second reading on some changes over on the old

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for our edition. So first is the second reading of ordinance number 883, this is considered

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the second reading of ordinance number 883. There's an explanation of this property in the

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council's packet. This is the property that is on the corner of the intersection of Highway

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115 Centennial Place and Orleans. This property, there's three sequential properties that

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that are all being rezoned specifically as planned developments.

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The purpose of a planned development is to,

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for an owner to utilize their property outside

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of the prescribed zoning regulations.

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This essentially creates a specific zoning district

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for this particular property.

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On lot three, the new property owner, Paul's rifle,

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is requesting that the zoning be based

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on both B2 general business, as well as I1 light industrial, these, the density, yard,

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height regulations, the setbacks are all based on those property owners' requests and

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our specific in ordinance number 803.

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The intent of the property owners, they like flexibility on this property, they intend

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construct a series of buildings and they want the flexibility to possibly have

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light manufacturing in one of the facilities as well as the ability to do

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potentially do some storage, the potential to have an activity center potentially.

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There's several ideas out there that the property owner is looking at as well as

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the potential for a pretty decent employer, a 20 to 30 person employer that the

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the property owner is currently working with today to potentially attract them to

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noir outfits.

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So that's what this property is doing with that said, recommend the council approve

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ordinance number 8883 that requests a reason on a lot three of old poor addition from the

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current state as a residential manufactured district to a PD plan development district.

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And this is the oneness to the point that we added it like yes if the last meeting there

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was discussion about requiring the individual to weigh their rights in case the city was

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to improve centennial or lean to letting their property so we put in some more specific

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language that we've seen and that we've had listed on other plan developments in the past

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that we're abutting undeveloped property or streets that we're not fully

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improved up to city design standards. So the caveat there's a clause in there

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that says if the city is to make these improvements, the property owner you know

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needs to comply and work with the city to do so.

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And it ain't a motion. So we'll go by mark to approve second reading of ordinance

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eight, eight, three, is there a second?

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I'll second that.

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Seconded by Mike.

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I don't believe we've had any questions,

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so we'll ask the finance officer if we can call the roll.

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Okay.

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Quarter.

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Round side in?

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So pass.

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Next is ordinance number eight, eight, four.

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Ordinance number eight, eight, four is a rezone of lot two,

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also from residential manufactured housing

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to plan development. This is also the second reading of A-8-4. Specifically on this lot,

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it's just to the north of last three. It's a smaller piece, but the current property

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owner, who will remain the property owner, has an intent to install a structure on this

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property for the purpose of a light industrial type building. And this property owner plans

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to construct this building but they also have intent to potentially sell off

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another lot or another two lots within the property. Therefore this plan

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development reflects I-1 as the light industrial as the base of the

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ordinance but then it has specific regulations associated with it if they'd

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like to plan off other lots on the property. It's very very similarly based

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of the properties that are south of Centennial Avenue that were re-zoned as a plan development

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several years ago. So that uses that as a base. There's a smaller setbacks between buildings.

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There's the necessity of having a private road with private road agreement in between

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has public access and everything in that nature is included. So with that said, recommend

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the council approve ordinance number 84 to rezone a lot two of the old poor

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additions from R&M manufactured residential to plan development district based on I-1 landing dust

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drill.

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Move by James to approve the ordinance 884 is there a second? Seconded by Bob

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We'll ask finance off to the police call roll.

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Next is ordinance number 885.

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And for those of you who are wondering why we're not...

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No one's asking questions.

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That all happened at the prior meeting when we had the first reading.

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So, you're aware of that.

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There were lots of questions asked.

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and things that were changed, so go ahead, Justin.

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Ordnance number 85, this is the second reading.

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This is a lot, one of the old quarry edition.

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Map of this is all included in the council's packet

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and on the city's website as well.

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I will say that all the information

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to council is discussing tonight, is it?

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Is on the city's website publicly available?

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is resounding from resounding to a planned development.

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Currently, the owner of the property, Dennis Halverson,

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has a manufactured house sitting on that lot.

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According to the city's zoning ordinance,

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you cannot have a manufactured housing district

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with less than 10 acres.

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So this is creating a planned development district

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that is essentially giving them the ability

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to continue to have a residential manufactured housing district with 4.5 acres, which is what

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thought one currently is. The ordinance also stipulates that the existing building that

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is there may remain, but it prohibits the additional, any additional homes to be moved

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onto the property. It also states that that home may be replaced sometime in the future if

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if it needs the current code standards at that time.

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So with that said, have the council approve

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the second reading and adoption of ordinance number 885.

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It's a request to rezone lap one of the old court addition

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from RM Manufactured Residential District

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to PD's plan to build the administration.

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Intertain a motion.

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So moved by Mark to approve the adopt ordinance

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of PD-5, is there a second?

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Second.

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Seconded by Chad.

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and finds office that please call a roll.

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Yes.

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Chris.

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Yes. Yes.

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Okay. Next is ordinance number 886.

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Ordinance number 86 is not a plan development. It was last five, which is actually directly to the east of these properties that we've been discussing. That property is a lot five operating addition. It's currently zoned as NRC natural resource conservation district. The local Del Rapids economic development corporation.

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As purchased that property recently, they're intending to develop that property and make

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it for sale to prospective companies, prospective businesses in the future, and they are requesting

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to have that in the zone to I-1, the industrial district, this would be considered the second

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hearing.

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The potential, the development corporation is to bring some fill into the property, hopefully

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to the property, make improvements to the property so we can get a good solid business

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in the area outside of the floodplain and a developable area of Delrahapis.

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So with that, recommend the council approve the second reading and adoption of ordinance

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number 886 to resume lock 5, a perting addition from NRC, natural resource conservation district

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to an I1 light industrial district.

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move by Gary to approve an ordinance 886 is there a second? I'll second that seconded by Bill.

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Finance officer will please call the roll once again.

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Schmidt? Yes.

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Richard? Yes.

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Chris? Yes.

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Ron Simon? Yes.

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Mark? Yes.

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Mayer? Yes.

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Eric?

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Epstein?

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Err?

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I'm on the board.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Next is final pay request number seven from dirt specialties.

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Finally tying up this

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project, dirt specialties have this project completed earlier in the year on August. We've been

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waiting on lean waivers to be submitted by the subcontractors. Those have been submitted but this

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would be considered the final pay request and the approval to sign all final contract documents.

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The final pay request is in the amount of $28,758.56 made to zero special fees.

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I recommend the council approve.

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In the case of motion, it's different.

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Oh, Chad makes the motion to zero second, seconded by Gary.

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All in favor of the motion to signify the saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed, nay, motion is carried.

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Next item of business is Selfie Infrastructure Project Pay Request Number 13.

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Getting close to wrapping up this project, Riley Reinhardt, the city's engineer representative

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is on the phone if the council has any questions of him.

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This is Pay Request Number 13 in the amount of $480,000, $85,444 and $57 cents.

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This is for the work that's continued out.

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I'm going on Forest Street, Washington Avenue,

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alley sewer restoration and the alley restoration,

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everything of that nature.

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Pavement is also included in here being

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why it's such a large pay request.

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Project, just a quick project update

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for the Council of Pavement, pay request.

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H&W has said nothing but good late season leather

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to make progress towards completing the project.

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They've finalized the installation of all utilities,

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99.5 of the concrete is installed at this point.

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I think that they are, they plan to,

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we're emphasizing to them the tie is 99.9% of this project

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up by this week is really no excuse in our minds

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that they can't have all of the dirt created to final grade

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behind sidewalks and between sidewalks and perfect gutter, that the alleys are cleaned

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up and there's some fine tuning of some of this area. The only thing that the

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contractor is not going to be able to get done this year is seating on the

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properties. We plan to have them bring that forward. We've emphasized them to be

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here early next spring as early as possible to get that done so we can get them

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paid in and get this project closed up. We had some discussions regarding liquidated

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damages at the previous meeting and we'll continue to have those discussions with the

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contractor with the council. There's just nothing to discuss this evening since they're

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not where we don't consider it's substantially complete yet at this time. That said, if the

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council has any questions for Riley? He's on the phone. Any comments you want to

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throw in Riley?

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I think just been pretty much covered at all. The one thing that I'll

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add is just there would be a little bit of punctuous work other than

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seating that carries into the spring.

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Some small spot repairs on concrete, you know,

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cracks that showed up in sidewalk here and there and then possibly a

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picks in a couple service lines, but like he said, 99.9% of the stuff we expect to be done

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to.

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Any questions from council of rally?

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Project? How much will be left? They're finally in their final pay request?

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We're talking about putting damages.

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Well, those are criminal.

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And there's a 15% retention, so it's a significant amount.

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I don't have that on top of my head.

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It's in the paid eligibility breakdowns.

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Every time we've left.

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Every time we've paid them, we've held 15%.

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Is that right?

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Yes, help.

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and it's 10% and right now it's about $600,000 that's being held.

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Yes, 610,000, some of your questions.

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So we're holding 20 Macs.

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Any other questions?

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It's not, it detains any motion.

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Move to approve.

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By names to approve, please.

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Number 13, the H&W is the second.

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Seconded by Bob.

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Well, I'll pay for a second time by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed nay.

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Motion is carried.

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Aye.

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Well, we need to do business.

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And the reason why the room would be getting warm.

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We ordinance number 888, which would be a temporary emergency ordinance pertaining to face coverings.

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I'm going to let Justin speak to this first and then those of you in the audience who

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wish to make comments to the council, we would appreciate that you step up and use the podium

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and identify yourself and your address so that it's in the public bracket and we'll listen

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to anybody who wants to speak to us tonight so first so Justin.

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Yes. Thank you, Ms. Counsel. Thank you for everyone that you're doing here tonight.

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This is obviously not a simple or easy issue to engage in, but I think it's necessary,

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I guess, as leaders of the community to restart this discussion, not encourage you to,

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as city administrator to vote either way on this.

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is just, you know, both as you see fit.

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As the council is aware, too,

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we're not the only community in this state

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in our region that's having similar discussion

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over the past few months, last few weeks.

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With the upcoming winter indoor months ahead of us,

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national experts across the board are warning

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of TV rises in COVID-19 across our region.

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And they're warning of spread

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without mitigation measures, we've seen a spike in cases and subsequent deaths not only in our community but in our county and our state.

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I guess I'll just point out I'm not a medical expert so I think it's important that for us to consider advice of medical experts as we have seen and has been provided to our community and our state over the past several months.

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The city has taken actions in the past on this.

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The mayor of about six weeks ago had a mayoral proclamation.

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This mayoral proclamation was made at the behest of our local

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and mayoral hospital and our administrator at the hospital,

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encouraging that our community take measures seriously,

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including mask wearing, including hand-washing and social distancing.

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So I will point out is that this is the ordinance that's being proposed is the city had been approached by many members of the community, businesses, as well as council members that thought that we needed to have this discussion this evening.

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In the mayors, the mayors' proclamation was made as a way to put this information

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out there into the community.

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This ordinance, it's important to point out, does not have any enforcement measures.

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This ordinance is very, very similar to what Sioux Falls recently adopted.

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There is not fines, there is not requirements of businesses.

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I would state it that it's basically like the mayoral proclamation, it's just saying

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it at a, I guess, a louder volume is the way I think that this ordinance could be interpreted

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there is not any enforcement measures there is several exceptions and those

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are listed in the ordinance and in the packet and those exceptions really have to

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deal with restaurants, bars, places of our individuals that might have medical

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issues, things of those, things of that nature, it's providing guidance to the community

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at large as we go into these winter months.

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With that said, any of the council members have anything to say to the state about

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I have a discussion and then I would say open it up for public comment.

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I'll be back for it.

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What is the expiration date, it says it has an expiration date.

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What is that date?

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I think the date that was placed on here, if I call it the ordinance, February 1st.

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So if the night you would be looking, we wanted to approve the first reading, second reading

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would be, the second reading would be, I did not point that out, this is considered the

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first reading, the COD.

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Then there would be a second reading at the December 21st, and it would go into effect

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after that second reading as a nurse or any

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other council people would like to speak now

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just as far as an ordinance or resolution can you define that a little better if we

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instead of adopting an ordinance if we would adopt a resolution you're saying that the ordinance speaks louder but I did point that out

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But resolution with going to affect immediately, you know, there's really, in this case, since

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there isn't any enforcement in this, and there's really, I guess, not a difference.

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Inordinates, or a resolution could be just as appropriate as an ordinance in the circumstances.

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But that ordinance can be part of the law, and resolution is not, is that part of the

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to, but since we are enforcing the ordinance, that's why you're saying this.

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There's been a lot of this discussion in other communities, you know, I think the city

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attorney and the rapid city said that, and they've adopted a similar ordinance, he said,

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it's the first time in his 15 years of city attorneys that he adopted, or he, the council

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was adapting in ordinance without any, without any enforcement measures.

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So I'd say it's a rare occurrence to have the ordinance for this nature.

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So is this just a fuel-go ordinance that, hey, we passed an ordinance with people that, you know, you got to wear a mask, but, you know, no penalty.

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So just to make you feel good, or I don't get the purpose.

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And, you know, what this should fall is just this weekend.

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You know, I go to my yard regularly and so I have to wear a mask.

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and I respect that. That's just their business and I ordered my mask. Afterwards we went

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all to eat and I thought about going out to eat. What do I got to wear a mask? Well it's

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a wife wore a purse and of course I figured I'm going to eat. I'm going to order my mask.

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I'm walking there and nobody was wearing a mask that walked into that building. And it's

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a popular place. It wasn't very busy. That was just last night, Sunday night.

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So we ate

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and had a good meal. The wife was at Target the other day, and by creating this ordinance,

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what you're going to do is you're going to divide the community. And the reason I say that

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is the wife was at Target here a week or so ago, and there was a person in there who

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And this is after the city of adopted their ordinance. There's an elderly gentleman that had blocked in with his wife, and he had seen that person, and he has raised all kinds of holy help about that person not wearing a mask. And the lady that was talking to them was trying to settle down, finally the man would drink him over and said, hey, look, we would like everybody to wear a mask. But there's no way for us to enforce it, because there's no penalty for them not to wear it. So, sir, we welcome you to shop our store, but I'm sorry.

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You know, there's nothing we can do about that person that we're in a mask.

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So anyway, I look at this as if it's a feel good ordinance.

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I feel as though we're going to divide the community because we as a

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council, we pass this ordinance, hey, you're going to wear a mask but we're not going to enforce it.

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So, whatever business, they're not enforcing it in their business and somebody walks in there

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And I feel as though it's just going to be holy hell for somebody, especially on social

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media.

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And, you know, social media today can destroy business.

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And when I look at our businesses in this town, especially all of our eating establishments,

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to me and my eyes, and I don't mean this derogatory or anything, but they're all vulnerable because

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most of these eating establishments have changed hands in the last couple of years.

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We have new owners at Pizza Ranch.

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we have new owners of poppuses. It's been in the paper recently about poppuses possibly closing.

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I was down there Friday night. They had a wonderful evening. Lots of people.

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Good for them. The bowling out here recently had some new owners and they've already gone

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through a shutdown and we passed this mass ordinance and we divide our community that

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everybody starts pointing fingers at everybody. Is that what our businesses need?

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you know I feel as though a lot like our governor feels I feel this virus is

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real I understand it's real I'm not denying that but I feel as though our people

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in South Dakota are smart I feel the people in South Dakota have a choice I feel

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as though I have a choice to go into pop is down there Friday night they have a

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choice to run their business the way that they want to run it. When I walked in there and we

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had to wait 20 minutes in the place was full and we're not wearing masks and 10% of the people

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in there were wearing masks and the wife and I chose since we walked in we're not leaving this place

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you know I don't want it to look bad and I think everything's going to be fine for me and the people

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that were around me.

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Like I said, 10% of the people were wearing masks,

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but am I going to get on an airplane in flight today?

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No, I think I'm a little smarter than that.

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I don't want to be confined in that area with that many people.

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But overall, I think the people in this community

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are smart enough to social distance is best

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that they can.

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They have a choice to go into a business that's

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enforcing the rules or not enforcing the rules.

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You have a choice not to go into that business

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if you don't like the way they're running it.

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So, I just look at this, is dividing our community, and when I thought about this, I knew

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this was coming just, and I knew this was coming in the minutes who followed me through this.

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And so I've been thinking about this, I've been thinking about it a lot, in fact I drink too

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much coffee thinking about this right in the morning.

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But anyway, the educational part of this,

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just in that you have recommended,

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that's what I believe we need to do more of.

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We get more things done in this community working together,

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such as building a library.

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We work together, we build a library.

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We work together, we're building more,

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repair and more streets today than we ever have before.

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Because we've worked with the people that we're going to go

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under their part of town and say, hey, we would like to fix your streets and it could cost

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you this much.

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And when you educate the people, it's just easier for everybody to get along.

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And I think with this thing, let's do the educational part somehow.

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I don't have the answer to that.

484
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:28,350
But I think it'll be much easier for everybody to get along rather than passing some ordinance

485
00:34:28,350 --> 00:34:31,430
just to feel good to say, yep, we pass the ordinance.

486
00:34:32,330 --> 00:34:33,230
I said enough.

487
00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:33,670
I'm sorry.

488
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,200
One thing about me, you always know where I stand.

489
00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:14,530
I'm not putting in laws that are not enforceable, that's a really tough thing for me.

490
00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:19,410
I've viewed it more, I thought a lot about this as well, and I've always viewed it more

491
00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:26,310
as an act of leadership, kind of along the lines of the education, right, to say that

492
00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:32,390
as leaders of our community, here's the best practice, here's how we would lay it out,

493
00:35:32,910 --> 00:35:39,710
right? So the fact that it doesn't have teeth, I think, speaks to that we're not trying

494
00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:46,110
to putty and not anybody's liberties or things like that, but it's a stance of leadership.

495
00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:51,770
So, I guess that's how I took it myself.

496
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,890
I take it as a stand of control.

497
00:35:59,930 --> 00:36:04,010
I think the education is just as much leadership as putting it in the audience.

498
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,660
How much would the education involve, how a dedicated approach?

499
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,700
You know, I think through this, you know, we looked at some type of education campaign

500
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:22,360
when, you know, the color committees have done with signage, you know, the business wants

501
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,460
to require it.

502
00:36:23,860 --> 00:36:29,540
The city could have a, you know, a sign design saying, you know, a mask, a mask where you're

503
00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:33,060
mask going to store with the city window or whatever the case is, something like that.

504
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:41,880
I think that those have happened in many communities, you know, the city does have some

505
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,480
CARES Act funding that we can dispel before the end of the year here, we talked about

506
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:53,360
potentially buying a few thousand masks and having those handed out to businesses so

507
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:59,480
they could have in their front door, in case someone enters the building and potentially

508
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,840
We forgot their mask in their car or something in that nature.

509
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:03,560
So we're providing those.

510
00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:06,480
We thought about that if we did an access ordinance

511
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,680
that the businesses aren't responsible for having to have

512
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,760
that come out of their own pocket.

513
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,840
I guess some of those things are some of the things

514
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,980
that have crossed my mind, Bob.

515
00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:19,760
We can also look at what other communities are doing

516
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:21,480
along those educational lines.

517
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,620
Can we probably happen to do the mask donation

518
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:25,660
with all of our needs?

519
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,340
Yeah, definitely.

520
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:31,300
We're looking into getting some of those cards for

521
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:33,640
this man, what did he ask you?

522
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,160
If we can provide the bleak yet mask and do some kind of donation distribution

523
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,520
without an ordinance.

524
00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:49,870
What's a little box as a mask slate?

525
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:52,450
It's similar to what Dan's wearing.

526
00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:53,610
You see them at businesses.

527
00:37:54,910 --> 00:37:56,810
It's depending on where you sing with Bob's God.

528
00:37:56,810 --> 00:38:04,030
depending on where you get them. It can vary anywhere from 16 to depending on

529
00:38:04,030 --> 00:38:10,990
right here in the box. First of all, anywhere from 20 to 30 I could do some

530
00:38:10,990 --> 00:38:16,810
lucky. I was just looking at the ones today for about 50 or anywhere between

531
00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:23,030
eight bucks and 15 bucks. Yeah. For how many? 50. So is that something that could

532
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:25,890
work into this educational program where it would have fallen to your

533
00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:30,950
care is deal that the city helps provide all these businesses a box of masks.

534
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:33,230
Hey, the city would like to see us wear these masks.

535
00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:38,430
Here's a free mask, you know, if you sow desire, please take that and wear that.

536
00:38:39,590 --> 00:38:41,830
Let the people be smart about it, whether or not they want it.

537
00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:45,070
I mean, is that something that you could incorporate into this educational thing?

538
00:38:45,250 --> 00:38:45,470
I mean,

539
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,360
well, something to be said about that, Mark, also, you go with ours.

540
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:58,740
When our charges are $0.99, so they're making them some money off the gig, which is absolutely ridiculous.

541
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,900
When they should be helping a community get through this thing.

542
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:18,280
And as far as your talk on what you believe or your thoughts on this, my thoughts as far as social media is so difficult.

543
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:24,240
And it's so easy for even our children to sit there and

544
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:28,800
well, nag on someone and get in trouble doing that.

545
00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:32,340
And maybe cyber bullying, I guess you call it and things like that.

546
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,380
And it's unfortunate that those things happen.

547
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,440
It would be unfortunate to start something like that as far as a business,

548
00:39:40,820 --> 00:39:43,740
you know, or if someone's wearing a mask and someone's not,

549
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,520
and how that whole thing starts.

550
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,800
I know what you're talking about.

551
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:54,300
As far as South Dakota with our other ordinances, regulations, rules, you know, there's not

552
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:59,140
we're not a mandated state, even in my line of work working with water quality.

553
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,820
We don't, it's not mandated that you have to do things.

554
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:09,720
I work on a voluntary basis and I think we've had a lot of education on this.

555
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:12,440
I'm sure everybody in here in the audience has a TV.

556
00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:22,580
we've been educated a lot and it's all up here that if you believe that you know

557
00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:27,800
I'm not wearing a mask is going to get you by COVID I mean it's not yeah you've

558
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,880
got the experts on their signal wear it but maybe wear it and a lot of

559
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:38,140
people that are or everyone would want to be having this discussion at all but my

560
00:40:38,140 --> 00:40:45,440
My stance is not to tell someone to do something that we can't tell to do anyways and really

561
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,140
to have a law there that has no teeth or no direction in it saying that we're going

562
00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:52,340
to not enforce it.

563
00:40:52,940 --> 00:40:58,080
It's almost silly, so that's where I stand of that, that's all I've got.

564
00:41:01,510 --> 00:41:02,250
I agree.

565
00:41:02,510 --> 00:41:04,410
I mean, if you don't have teeth to it,

566
00:41:06,490 --> 00:41:09,950
maybe my analogy is stupid, but it's like closing

567
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:12,450
and the gate after the cab will go out.

568
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:15,790
If we're not going to have any teeth or what are we going to do?

569
00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:22,390
I mean it's just, we're telling everybody out here you should wear a mask, but it's

570
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:22,850
your choice.

571
00:41:23,170 --> 00:41:33,570
Well, my choice is all right, so I don't think this is the way we want to go in my eyes.

572
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:39,090
I don't think any council member that is spoke tonight just so everybody understands.

573
00:41:39,090 --> 00:41:41,430
I don't think there's any council member that spoke tonight.

574
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:48,840
I think we all realize COVID is real.

575
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:51,940
We all realize masks can probably help.

576
00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:57,180
Is masks the best answer with today's knowledge

577
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,340
of probably is.

578
00:41:59,180 --> 00:42:02,340
But I think everybody in the council will agree with that.

579
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,560
COVID is real, or none of us are sitting here saying it's not real.

580
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,960
But my biggest thing is I didn't take this seat.

581
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,480
to control anybody. I took this seat to help the community the best way that I can.

582
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:24,730
You know, I think my voice tonight, the best way I can help the community, is to figure out how

583
00:42:24,730 --> 00:42:30,170
to work this thing together instead of creating an ordinance that divides this community.

584
00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:36,490
And then in different, and then that's their different, of course, different masks are better than

585
00:42:36,490 --> 00:42:40,030
other ones. So which ones are right? Which ones are wrong? Which ones are protecting the

586
00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:45,450
the best which one is. I mean, and I, yeah, I, well, we can argue those things all along.

587
00:42:45,830 --> 00:42:50,290
All you got to do is look at the state of South Dakota's website, and you can find the

588
00:42:50,290 --> 00:42:57,430
answer to it. Our governor's put the answer out there for us. So it's there. And I, you

589
00:42:57,430 --> 00:43:01,190
know, when we did this proclamation to point it out, you know, and again, as he said, the

590
00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:07,870
very, well, we requested it. And, and, and any of you out there who have any connection,

591
00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:14,470
involvement, knowledge about what's going on in the medical world, those are people who are

592
00:43:15,170 --> 00:43:20,590
directly greatly impacted, obviously, if they're working in dealing with that and their request

593
00:43:20,590 --> 00:43:28,310
was to just to make people be more aware of the fact of what I do, what I don't do, can, or might not

594
00:43:28,310 --> 00:43:36,830
have an implication that can have a result on somebody else. We live in a state where

595
00:43:36,830 --> 00:43:40,750
We all feel that everybody is going to do the right thing.

596
00:43:41,230 --> 00:43:44,090
My only concern is I tell people to do the right thing,

597
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:45,910
but don't do stupid things either.

598
00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:47,990
Make good decisions, but don't do stupid things.

599
00:43:48,570 --> 00:43:50,010
And to be frank about,

600
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:52,270
we've got people who do stupid things.

601
00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:54,990
And some of those people have died.

602
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:59,770
Now, like Mark is saying, it's there, it's real.

603
00:44:00,650 --> 00:44:03,630
And why do I...

604
00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:04,650
I don't want to catch it,

605
00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:07,550
And I'm going to do what I think I need to do, not to catch it.

606
00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:12,610
We had people in my wife's family who've gotten it.

607
00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:16,010
And thankfully, you know, great majority of people,

608
00:44:16,830 --> 00:44:19,070
you know, it's not that big a deal.

609
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:22,950
Some people, their second week, it becomes a big deal, et cetera.

610
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:26,090
Again, our purpose with the proclamation

611
00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:29,610
was just to tell people, be aware, be aware, be aware.

612
00:44:30,430 --> 00:44:33,110
Even in this age of information, all of the place,

613
00:44:33,110 --> 00:44:47,230
You communicate with people, and they ask you questions like, and you go, why don't, you know, it's like some people just pray absolutely no attention.

614
00:44:48,350 --> 00:44:56,250
And so, you know, how much do you have to communicate this, you know, to be like, I guess you have to do it over and over and over.

615
00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:59,830
And, you know, we are, the city is certainly

616
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:08,300
We're willing and able to do that and to, you know, put information out there that there's no lack of information.

617
00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:25,040
If you go on to governors on the Department of Health's website about COVID, there's a vaccination. There's a 64-page document out there explaining how a word, where it comes in and all the protocols are going to use, etc.

618
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:47,480
So, so there's a wealth of information out there if people would use it, so if you look at any other options that we have an exporter talked about with CARES that other communities are doing that we can maybe pull CARES Act money for that can directly go to the community.

619
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:59,920
I know a lot of things beyond like like sturgis after the rally opened up free testing sites.

620
00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:09,260
I think testing's pretty decently readily available at this point where I guess we didn't

621
00:46:09,260 --> 00:46:14,900
approach that or look into that at all, that's testing, I'd say that's probably the only

622
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:29,880
anything that's popping in my mind as far as what what other communities have done with that care act for me. We're talking short notice. No, if it has to be by the same way for we still be still by get PPE stuff.

623
00:46:30,220 --> 00:46:34,020
Yeah, we've been doing that for the ambulance and fire.

624
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:41,600
and when we take a face mask also to distribute out to businesses I think we have that discussion

625
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,920
here in the last few years

626
00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:50,080
as part as when this issue came up the Chamber of Commerce

627
00:46:52,260 --> 00:47:01,860
did survey their membership and then Dan maybe time to tell us exactly what some of the

628
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:02,600
business is done.

629
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,180
Sure.

630
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,080
Dan Allers, I'm here tonight for presenting the door

631
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,220
atmosphere of commerce.

632
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,840
We surveyed our membership.

633
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:24,120
When we heard about this to find out what our members

634
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,720
would think.

635
00:47:25,420 --> 00:47:31,100
And of the 79 that opened their emails, nearly half of

636
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:32,840
them answered the survey.

637
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,980
Now some didn't answer the survey because they're

638
00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:42,580
They're more than one person with a company that gets the email so they only take one survey.

639
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:47,200
So this is a pretty good sample size of the dollar app it's businesses and

640
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,940
members of the dollar app is chamber of commerce.

641
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:55,040
Of those approximately 72% are in favor of a mask ordinance.

642
00:47:56,140 --> 00:48:04,080
There's about 12.5% that are unsure and 15% that disagree.

643
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:12,260
So you can see overwhelmingly that the business community here would support a city-wide mask ordinance.

644
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:19,960
And you have the full support of our board. It was a unanimous vote of our board to support this.

645
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:32,040
You don't have to go very far to see the impact of COVID and what it's done for our businesses.

646
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,720
As you know, this is not the first time I've been here speaking to you guys about COVID-related

647
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:37,100
issues.

648
00:48:39,020 --> 00:48:44,200
At the very beginning, we were here talking about what the Chieber was going to do, how

649
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,400
we were going to work with our businesses.

650
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,420
We've been there putting information online.

651
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:54,060
We've been there creating videos, helping people get access to the funding that was available

652
00:48:54,060 --> 00:48:55,060
to help support them.

653
00:48:55,300 --> 00:49:01,640
We have met with businesses upon request, and in some cases, those that we know that we

654
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:08,120
anticipated would be seriously impacted, like some of our restaurants, we we wanted to find out

655
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:14,080
what we could do to help them. And we've been there the entire time working with them. You saw

656
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:20,540
quarry days. Initially we planned on having quarry days in June. Things didn't get better. We

657
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:27,200
decided to move it. And we did everything that we could to try and keep an event going. But ultimately

658
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:34,460
We felt that it was safe, the safest bet is not having a large group event and canceling

659
00:49:34,460 --> 00:49:35,060
it for this year.

660
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,440
It was the first time in 30 plus years that we hadn't had court days.

661
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,680
It wasn't an easy decision.

662
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:41,980
I know Marlena is on the board.

663
00:49:42,540 --> 00:49:45,820
She could tell you that we had a long lengthy discussion about this.

664
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,040
These decisions aren't, are not easy decisions.

665
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:56,140
We've gone out of our way to maintaining keep other events, retool events so that we could

666
00:49:56,140 --> 00:50:05,500
have ways to keep some sense of normalcy. So, it's not an easy thing. But when you're

667
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:11,920
a leader, you're compelled to make decisions that are not always popular, or perceived

668
00:50:12,370 --> 00:50:21,160
to be popular. You have to do what is ethically right, and sometimes it takes courage to make

669
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,380
those choices that mean sacrificing convenience.

670
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:30,200
What you're asking people to do today is no different than wearing a seatbelt.

671
00:50:31,420 --> 00:50:32,600
It saves lives.

672
00:50:33,980 --> 00:50:35,240
Now to everybody, where's the seatbelt?

673
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:40,820
Often there's a state out there talking about where your seatbelt, where your seatbelt

674
00:50:40,820 --> 00:50:41,600
it saves lives.

675
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,460
Don't text while you drive.

676
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:45,060
It saves lives.

677
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,040
Even with enforcement, they're hard to enforce.

678
00:50:49,040 --> 00:51:02,440
But it's about leadership standing up and saying, this is for your own good, this is for your safety, this is to protect and save lives.

679
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,600
So it goes beyond whether or not you can enforce it or not.

680
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:14,140
Look to our school district, the Delaware Rapids Public School District, has a very robust policy.

681
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:21,840
Mass-wearing, different measures, keeping kids separated so that we don't have large gatherings.

682
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,340
They sometimes eat lunch in their rooms to keep the numbers in the commons down, different

683
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:35,620
hallways, the control traffic flow, cleaning before and after classes, and you can see the

684
00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:40,080
fruits of their labor, far less than a 1% infection rate in that school district.

685
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,920
And unlike a lot of schools across the state, they haven't had to close.

686
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,260
They're struggling with shortages of staff just like everyone else.

687
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:53,720
I'm one of six people between the middle school or one of five people,

688
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,760
between the middle school and high school, it's seven.

689
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:57,940
That's not a lot of substance.

690
00:51:59,580 --> 00:52:04,900
To find ways to get things done, but good policies allow that school to stay open.

691
00:52:05,060 --> 00:52:06,240
Which is what everybody wants.

692
00:52:06,580 --> 00:52:07,760
People wanted their kids in school.

693
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:15,460
There was a decision made by that school board that helps ensure and protect safety by using best practices.

694
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,860
Are they 100% guarantee? Absolutely not.

695
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:28,360
But while South Dakota, between March 30th and September 1st, South Dakota had 167 COVID deaths.

696
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:30,520
Since then,

697
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:35,390
that's 33, by the way, for a month.

698
00:52:36,030 --> 00:52:38,910
Since then, we're averaging more than 300 deaths a month.

699
00:52:39,810 --> 00:52:43,630
South Dakota is not only leading the nation, it's leading the globe and

700
00:52:44,530 --> 00:52:50,350
COVID infection rate and deaths. Meanwhile, the cities that are doing the best in

701
00:52:50,350 --> 00:52:57,750
South Dakota, the two best, Brookings and Mitchell, both early on adopted mass

702
00:52:57,750 --> 00:53:05,730
ordinances. Does everybody abide by them? No, I've been to Brookings. I've seen

703
00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:14,670
people there, they're not wearing a mask. And it's tough to enforce. But if we have unity

704
00:53:14,670 --> 00:53:19,030
in leadership and a unified message, the reason that we're having problems today is because

705
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:24,510
we don't have a unified message. We don't have unified leadership. The division already

706
00:53:24,510 --> 00:53:31,810
exists. Now, the single business in this town is closed because of the city shutting

707
00:53:31,810 --> 00:53:37,070
them down, or because of COVID, they close out of choice. When you look at the businesses

708
00:53:37,070 --> 00:53:42,730
in Sioux Falls like Target, they were requiring masks before the city ordinance, menards requiring

709
00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:48,770
the mask for city ordinances, and there are a few people that make a scene. They're always going

710
00:53:48,770 --> 00:53:56,090
to be those people, but that should not deter you from doing what's ethically right and what is in the

711
00:53:56,090 --> 00:54:02,730
best interests of the people of this city and the people of South Dakota. I urge you

712
00:54:02,730 --> 00:54:09,370
guys to consider sending a message and in what regardless, I agree. Ordinance should

713
00:54:09,370 --> 00:54:15,210
have teeth. If it were up to me, it would have teeth too, but it's not. But you do send

714
00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:22,710
a positive message, you send a message of safety, you send a message that it does mean something

715
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:27,630
and you send a message of unity with all the other municipalities around you

716
00:54:27,630 --> 00:54:33,270
they're starting to look and adopt these ordinances to home did anyone have

717
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:35,310
any questions about our survey or

718
00:54:38,570 --> 00:54:39,970
we

719
00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:47,120
asked whether or not they supported the

720
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:53,220
mass ordinance which we attach to copy of the ordinance no we asked we asked

721
00:54:53,220 --> 00:54:58,060
other questions that pertain to the keeper and how we could help them work what

722
00:54:58,060 --> 00:55:04,480
What they like about what we're doing, what we can do better, those questions, but those are all relevant to us in the business that we do.

723
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:10,180
What percent of the businesses do you feel offer food services and don't wrap it?

724
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,040
The food services ones that respond to it?

725
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:24,020
If you're going to go in and eat or drink kind of like Mark said, walk

726
00:55:26,070 --> 00:55:27,510
to your table or is that?

727
00:55:28,270 --> 00:55:33,590
Well, the ordinance explains what is required of you there, and you can't use a mask on.

728
00:55:34,990 --> 00:55:43,690
Some restaurants, business is in town, and we didn't have quite a few that responded.

729
00:55:44,330 --> 00:55:49,490
The percentages are a little mixed up with some put other, and did classify themselves

730
00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:51,990
as a restaurant because they might have been a bar or something like that.

731
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:57,210
But, you know, we had a fair amount of other respondents, I would say somewhere in that 20% range,

732
00:55:57,890 --> 00:56:00,410
cumulative, you know, 50 to 20%.

733
00:56:01,550 --> 00:56:05,950
But, you have to, you know, realize that the large number of businesses aren't getting

734
00:56:05,950 --> 00:56:11,110
established in a few minutes. Those are the ones that we work very closely with throughout this too,

735
00:56:11,890 --> 00:56:16,010
and have met with some of them personally to help as much as we can.

736
00:56:16,010 --> 00:56:25,410
I can't tell you how, I can tell you only five businesses disagree with the ordinance.

737
00:56:28,770 --> 00:56:36,390
That's a pretty big sample size, and you got nearly 40 respondents.

738
00:56:36,750 --> 00:56:38,730
Can those businesses put their order this up?

739
00:56:40,030 --> 00:56:41,530
Because some of them are afraid.

740
00:56:42,810 --> 00:56:48,450
Because when you tell them that you tell somebody that they got wear a mask, the division already exists.

741
00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:50,390
And they're not concerned about it really.

742
00:56:51,550 --> 00:56:53,850
Because they're the risk losing business.

743
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:56,570
Because the virus is more important than business loss.

744
00:56:57,950 --> 00:56:59,290
Do they want to be the business?

745
00:56:59,290 --> 00:57:00,590
Going out of business might be.

746
00:57:01,610 --> 00:57:06,990
But the point is that leadership makes the statement.

747
00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:24,290
And if you're unified, then everybody understands there is no more debate, because if you want to speak to the council, as you can see, division already exists.

748
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:27,990
Let's keep it on track.

749
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:31,870
Any other questions about the survey?

750
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:39,870
I'm going to be going to bring more data about it.

751
00:57:42,370 --> 00:57:48,590
I will put some of the survey.

752
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:54,070
Do you know what percentage has a lot of foot traffic?

753
00:57:54,250 --> 00:57:56,610
Are they storefront businesses?

754
00:57:56,610 --> 00:58:02,730
or are they like we keep the privacy of our membership I mean most of it is

755
00:58:02,730 --> 00:58:07,310
whether or not they agree with it the rest of it is for the chamber so that we

756
00:58:07,310 --> 00:58:13,500
can do a better job assessing them I think most of the businesses out you know

757
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:18,220
we don't have we've got county fair as a large business a lot of foot traffic

758
00:58:18,220 --> 00:58:27,780
but you go they establish it the cross street over here Narvis has got a lot of

759
00:58:27,780 --> 00:58:32,160
foot traffic in the evenings, but the rest of those businesses don't, you know,

760
00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:38,420
Ace Hardware is another one, and they've, all along they've been making

761
00:58:38,420 --> 00:58:41,960
a social distance, et cetera, et cetera. I think the majority of the

762
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,240
rest of the businesses tend to be, are, you know, a lot less foot traffic in whatever.

763
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,220
Who else would like to address the council?

764
00:59:00,460 --> 00:59:07,180
Hi, I'm Amy Delgado, my husband and I have the coffee shop down the street here and I just

765
00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:11,440
wanted to say, you know, we didn't grow up here, we didn't live here but we've been here

766
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:19,640
for about five years now and we love cell rapids and the sense of community and togetherness

767
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:25,400
and wholeness that it brings, you know, we have lived in quite a few places considering

768
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:36,020
our age and I just feel like there's just this respect for all people and opinions and choices

769
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:42,800
and then kind of looking at interactions between different customers you know we've got

770
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:50,160
different people coming in some people are added mass squares some people do not there's always

771
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:57,320
the sense of respect and, you know, we're Midwestern, so our, you know, personal space

772
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,960
bubbles are naturally larger. But, um...

773
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,840
Just the ebb and flow that naturally happens without us even having to put up a sign or recommend anything or do anything like that. We've really been able to watch our customer base be respectful to each other, respectful to us. We don't require our staff to wear masks. We had an employee who thought maybe she had some different kinds of exposure issues, things like that. She chose to wear a mask when she came into work until she was more confident.

774
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:58,380
We respected that decision, you know, there's at least six members of the council here that are frequent visitors to the coffee shop that I have seen not wearing a mask into the shop and I see that as me respecting you to make your best decision based on what you feel like your exposure levels are your safety levels are you none of you are ignorant.

775
01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:03,380
none of you are not considerate of other people's feelings and I'm

776
01:01:03,380 --> 01:01:07,940
respecting that you're making the best choice that you can be. I'm respecting my

777
01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:14,320
choices right now not to wear a mask and I feel I've been proud so far to say

778
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:20,960
that we've been such a community that has been able to give the power and a

779
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,580
sense to the people.

780
01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:31,860
And I think that we have as a community adult with it in a very

781
01:01:31,860 --> 01:01:38,720
respectful way this far. And I do agree that I think it will create a sense of division.

782
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:46,500
I see that there's been a lot of shaming. And I think with mandates like this, it takes

783
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:54,760
the heat off of, I think it can be perceived to take the heat off of leadership and push

784
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:01,460
it on to the people to self-regulate and self-shame and then there's kind of just this,

785
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:07,380
it just doesn't feel right to me in a way.

786
01:02:08,780 --> 01:02:15,220
So there hasn't been any mandates so far and places that have mandated have done so out

787
01:02:15,220 --> 01:02:19,700
of their own responsibility as a company.

788
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:21,400
Like the school has done what they found

789
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,520
as necessary, county fair has done what they think.

790
01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:27,860
Places that are closer contact have made

791
01:02:27,860 --> 01:02:30,540
different regulations all on their own.

792
01:02:31,340 --> 01:02:33,840
I love the idea of the mayoral proclamation

793
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:34,940
because that's education.

794
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,560
And then you're educated to make your own choices.

795
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:43,400
Our immune systems are so much more complex than just a mask.

796
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,620
If you have a bad night's sleep the next day, your immune system is 40% compromised.

797
01:02:49,420 --> 01:02:54,720
When you have high blood sugar levels all the time, you know, they found that a lot

798
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,500
of deaths in cases have to do with people who have diabetes as underlying.

799
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,680
You know, there's so much going on, there's so much more education if we really want to keep

800
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,460
our people safe.

801
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:09,160
There's a lot more that we can be offering other than just a mask mandate and that's kind

802
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,140
of my opinion on that.

803
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,460
So thanks for listening to me.

804
01:03:12,460 --> 01:03:15,560
Justin, could you put her in that committee for the education?

805
01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:21,740
He's got more kids.

806
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,700
What more could you say?

807
01:03:24,860 --> 01:03:25,940
Anybody have any questions?

808
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,240
Any questions or anything?

809
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,880
We would like to speak next.

810
01:03:36,060 --> 01:03:37,040
I'm sure somebody's up.

811
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,220
Please use the podium.

812
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,380
So we can pick up the volume.

813
01:03:52,090 --> 01:03:54,830
My name is Lee Mackinari, and I'm from Delaware.

814
01:03:54,830 --> 01:04:00,990
happens. I had a nice, long paper letter I was going to send to all of you and

815
01:04:00,990 --> 01:04:08,210
save myself talking. Unfortunately, Mark had every point that I had. We are by the

816
01:04:08,210 --> 01:04:16,320
way here. I know two people in here, not in here, but in this community that

817
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:25,080
were mass and they're faithful by it, they both got covered. So it isn't a

818
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,280
out there, they can say what they want.

819
01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:31,000
But the fact is they have nothing to back again.

820
01:04:31,820 --> 01:04:37,220
It's all hearsay, it's all just ridiculous.

821
01:04:37,540 --> 01:04:39,440
The way the news media is spreading it around.

822
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,080
Myself, as you can tell, I'm against wearing a mask.

823
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,440
I'm 79 years old.

824
01:04:46,540 --> 01:04:48,180
I have lung problems.

825
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,220
I have not worn a mask at all, and I'm healthy.

826
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:59,500
people I have wear a mask or have problems with it. Not all of them, I'm not saying

827
01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:04,480
everyone. And I respect the rights of every one of you guys that want to wear a mask.

828
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:14,540
This is fine. You have your feelings, I have mine. But I have the same rights. What are

829
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:21,140
you guys wanting to do? Take my rights away from me. So when I walk into a store, I'm sorry

830
01:05:21,140 --> 01:05:26,780
we can't serve you you got a mask you haven't got a mask on that isn't what this country's about

831
01:05:26,780 --> 01:05:33,720
that's not what this community's about we do all our business here in town as much as we possibly

832
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:40,320
can and if I have one of those people tell me when I walk in here I'm sorry but the commission said

833
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:45,420
I got to tell you you have to wear a mask I'm walking out of that business and taking it down to

834
01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:51,160
suit falls that has the same man be making walk into all but maybe two stories out in their

835
01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:58,500
business and not have to wear a mask because you don't have any meat behind that. You have

836
01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:06,940
no nothing to prevent a person from not wearing a mask. You're going to arrest me? You can take

837
01:06:06,940 --> 01:06:12,800
may be my medical but it's one in jails if you want to but the fact is you're I think

838
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:21,540
this council has much more to do for this community rather than sit here and tell people

839
01:06:21,540 --> 01:06:26,820
what they can and can't do in regards to wearing masks. That's all I've got to say.

840
01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:30,290
Any questions?

841
01:06:31,610 --> 01:06:37,910
Well, the one reason we're here tonight is that we, members of our community, raises

842
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:47,990
issue and instead of your city government saying, yeah, it's okay and ignoring it, we're

843
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:48,670
here tonight.

844
01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:50,730
We are having this discussion.

845
01:06:50,990 --> 01:06:58,610
We're not ignoring it and that there are some people who have a different opinion relative

846
01:06:58,610 --> 01:07:02,450
to mask or whatever, or in the whole issue, I guess,

847
01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:06,370
for example, so we're, I think we're doing our job

848
01:07:06,370 --> 01:07:10,990
and the people sitting at this table have always

849
01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:13,790
been willing to listen to all points of view

850
01:07:13,790 --> 01:07:17,350
and to understand what our community needs.

851
01:07:18,550 --> 01:07:20,010
And who would be next?

852
01:07:20,670 --> 01:07:20,910
Anybody?

853
01:07:22,610 --> 01:07:23,210
Yeah.

854
01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:24,330
Oh, of course.

855
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:33,490
Well,

856
01:07:36,370 --> 01:07:39,550
I didn't really want to talk, that's not how I started a lot of speeches out in

857
01:07:39,550 --> 01:07:39,670
Paris.

858
01:07:39,790 --> 01:07:40,950
I didn't really want to talk, but here I am.

859
01:07:41,630 --> 01:07:42,870
So my name is Tom Pischy.

860
01:07:43,070 --> 01:07:43,310
I'm here.

861
01:07:43,550 --> 01:07:45,110
I live in 503's, 12th Street.

862
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:46,770
I'm your district 25 representative.

863
01:07:48,350 --> 01:07:51,930
I was asked by a few people here in the room and some others that come speak today, or

864
01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:57,530
you know, to address you guys and so here I am, but first and foremost, I want to thank you guys

865
01:07:57,530 --> 01:08:03,390
for your service. I know firsthand how hard it is to put yourself on the line and put yourself

866
01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:08,310
out for public service. You know, I go out the pier, I've gone out my fifth time here in a couple

867
01:08:08,670 --> 01:08:13,230
about a month and you know how hard it's to take up hard issues and this is certainly a hard issue

868
01:08:13,230 --> 01:08:19,190
for you guys, for you gentlemen. And I don't envy being in your seat and taking the hard vote. I mean,

869
01:08:19,190 --> 01:08:27,250
I mean, I've been there myself, so first and foremost, I want to let you know that I'm

870
01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:30,070
against the mandate, let you know that.

871
01:08:31,070 --> 01:08:37,170
I think first, also that Mr. Consul and Chris, you hit the nail on the head when you gave

872
01:08:37,170 --> 01:08:37,810
your speech earlier.

873
01:08:38,410 --> 01:08:41,550
That was my number one concern, is that we're going to divide this community.

874
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:46,130
We're going to have people walk around and choose not to follow the mandate, and they're going

875
01:08:46,130 --> 01:08:50,430
to be publicly shamed by other people that are wearing it and I think that's going to

876
01:08:50,430 --> 01:08:54,770
be even make the situation even worse than it is now. So I mean I'm not going to probably

877
01:08:54,770 --> 01:08:59,390
wear a mask, I rarely do, I have it times but I rarely do and I don't want to be publicly

878
01:08:59,390 --> 01:09:03,730
shamed just like anybody else in this room doesn't want to be publicly shamed. So that's

879
01:09:03,730 --> 01:09:09,390
why I would urge first foremost to oppose this mandate. Also I would also oppose doing

880
01:09:09,390 --> 01:09:14,390
an ordinance, a sneaky little thing that I've learned out in peers that when you pass an

881
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:20,610
ordinance with no teeth, it's not that hard to come back and say $0, put a 1-0 in front

882
01:09:20,610 --> 01:09:23,670
of that and make this $100 or make it $50.

883
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:29,630
So that's why I would certainly oppose the ordinance if you want to do a resolution.

884
01:09:30,190 --> 01:09:35,710
Maybe that's a better approach to this, but certainly not as an ordinance, do it only as

885
01:09:35,710 --> 01:09:36,330
a resolution.

886
01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:44,370
You can use your guys' counsel position to spread the message as a resolution to the

887
01:09:44,370 --> 01:09:49,450
that where a message is important, that would be a better approach in my opinion.

888
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:55,150
My former district mate, Mr. Oller's talked about courage earlier in his speech.

889
01:09:56,250 --> 01:10:00,790
And if you're right, it does take courage to be a leader, take courage to be on this board,

890
01:10:01,270 --> 01:10:04,170
take courage to go out to peer and represent your state and your district.

891
01:10:05,450 --> 01:10:11,310
And he made a comment about courage being standing up for your community and doing what's right.

892
01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:18,090
I would urge you guys to use your position and use courage to stand up for liberty and to stand up for freedom.

893
01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:21,470
So that's all I'm really going to say.

894
01:10:21,550 --> 01:10:26,790
I don't want to get into weeds on if masks work or don't work and what the effectiveness of that is.

895
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:32,050
I think there's lots of people in this room that can give you their opinion on that, but that's all I want to say about it.

896
01:10:32,430 --> 01:10:32,630
Thanks.

897
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:36,470
Any questions of Tom, under the council?

898
01:10:39,220 --> 01:10:39,760
Thank you, Thomas.

899
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,660
Anybody else who would like to address the council?

900
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,800
It's your chance to be recorded on the webcam.

901
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:55,370
Hi.

902
01:10:55,630 --> 01:10:58,730
My name is Sandy Paganpa, and I live at 304 E7 Street here.

903
01:10:59,870 --> 01:11:03,170
I did not prepare for this, so next time if you guys have this,

904
01:11:03,310 --> 01:11:05,750
in the second radio, we'll come with lots of statistics and data

905
01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:07,490
and information to back myself up.

906
01:11:09,130 --> 01:11:21,130
However, today I'm just going to kind of talk from the heart and, sorry, so I am a recent

907
01:11:21,130 --> 01:11:22,350
citizen to this country.

908
01:11:22,450 --> 01:11:28,290
I've been a citizen for 15 years, and this year I'm homeschooling my kids not because

909
01:11:28,290 --> 01:11:35,050
I'm scared of this virus, because I don't want my children to be taught fear mongering and

910
01:11:35,050 --> 01:11:43,650
And all the stuff that kind of goes along with it from school, I'm trying to kind of keep their lives as normal as possible.

911
01:11:44,530 --> 01:11:48,850
And so that is something with three kids at home and a husband who's now working from home.

912
01:11:49,250 --> 01:11:54,950
Our lives have been upset by this and it's a new world this year for all of us.

913
01:11:57,970 --> 01:12:02,010
So I was recently talking to my grandma and she lives in Canada, Southern Manitoba.

914
01:12:02,010 --> 01:12:04,070
Now, they are currently on complete lockdown.

915
01:12:05,410 --> 01:12:07,090
I had to send her Christmas cards.

916
01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:12,930
They're allowed to go to the store and grab just the necessities and their numbers are

917
01:12:12,930 --> 01:12:16,470
not anywhere where it should be a complete lockdown.

918
01:12:17,290 --> 01:12:22,830
The World Health Organization has even stated that lockdowns don't work and they don't agree

919
01:12:22,830 --> 01:12:24,490
with them but yet that continues to happen.

920
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:29,010
Now, I think with the masks, you know, it's a slippery slope.

921
01:12:29,010 --> 01:12:38,830
So we elect you guys to, you know, take care of the community, but I don't elect you to tell me what I should do for my medical purposes.

922
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:56,970
I believe a medical freedom, a mask, is a medical device, and when you require somebody, whether there's not any backing behind it, you know, there's responsibility behind that, you know, there's risk, there's hypoxia, OSHA talks about how, you know, if you're not getting the proper oxygen, you know, like Amy said,

923
01:12:56,970 --> 01:13:02,030
If you don't have the oxygen that your body needs, you can also get sick from that.

924
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:04,970
People are driving these in their cars and passing out in them.

925
01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:11,070
There's a lot of statistics and data that talk about how masks, when they've studied

926
01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:16,410
them, I can bring next time 15-plus studies that talk about the risks of wearing masks.

927
01:13:17,190 --> 01:13:23,650
And there has recently done a handful of studies in the last year where they're trying to prove

928
01:13:23,650 --> 01:13:24,710
that they actually work.

929
01:13:24,710 --> 01:13:30,670
So there's a lot more data out there that state that they're not as efficient as you might think they are.

930
01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:37,900
So if you're going to do something to educate the community,

931
01:13:38,020 --> 01:13:45,720
if you're going to provide masks, provide N95 masks that provide up to 95% protection for people who want them.

932
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:53,820
Putting a piece of cloth over your face is going to catch large spits, mucus, anything like that.

933
01:13:53,820 --> 01:14:01,600
from people who are sick, for somebody who isn't sick and isn't sneezing or coughing or spitting.

934
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:06,240
Most people are smart enough to cough into their elbow, wash their hands.

935
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,660
And that mask yet provides a minuscule amount of protection for those large droplets.

936
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:18,580
But if you're going to provide something, provide an N95 mask, or provide opportunities for

937
01:14:18,580 --> 01:14:24,700
people to, you know, offer grocery service for people who can't get there.

938
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,480
I would be happy to go to the store and buy groceries for somebody and I would volunteer

939
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:29,500
my time to do that.

940
01:14:31,260 --> 01:14:37,980
The other thing would be to, you know, talk to people about vitamin D, C, zinc, eating healthy,

941
01:14:39,260 --> 01:14:44,500
getting exercise, going outside for walks, you know, the things that are actually going

942
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:48,920
And keep them healthy, just like in every season of sickness that goes around.

943
01:14:52,420 --> 01:14:57,880
You know, Dan talked about how the school has done a good job with keeping the infection

944
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:58,520
rate down.

945
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:27,860
So the problem that I see with that is that I see the kids get off the bus every day. I have friends all over town that have kids. My kids are 7, 9, they all just have birthdays, 7, 9, and 12. They all go to each other's houses after school and play. So if you think that the masks are doing something to keep that down, you're not looking at it correctly. They're all playing together. Our high school teenagers are all still communing together. They are hanging out. I see them drive by all the time.

946
01:15:29,420 --> 01:15:36,660
And not only that, but 95% of the community is also still hanging out with each other and

947
01:15:38,220 --> 01:15:39,460
being around each other.

948
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:50,410
I think I hit, I was trying to keep notes here as I want to make sure I hit everything.

949
01:15:51,470 --> 01:15:54,350
I think that I

950
01:15:56,940 --> 01:16:02,280
respect your guys' opinions and your position and I think it's your responsibility

951
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,100
ability to bring up the other side of this.

952
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,400
I understand people are very concerned about this.

953
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,080
I don't think people are uneducated in this.

954
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,800
I think that people have had nine months

955
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,880
to sit and educate themselves on how to keep healthy,

956
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,460
what viruses do, what the history of viruses have done.

957
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,920
I think a lot of people have created their own thoughts

958
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,600
and opinions on it and decided for them

959
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:28,960
what's best for their family.

960
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,200
I don't want you guys to make medical decisions

961
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,840
for my family. I moved here. I'm teaching my kids about the Constitution and

962
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,020
knowing that says that you guys get to decide what best is medically for my

963
01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:47,260
family. I think that everybody wants the ability to make the best

964
01:16:47,260 --> 01:16:54,440
decision for themselves and I know I've rambled a lot but those are my

965
01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:59,340
thoughts on it and I'll come next time with more data and information. So any

966
01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:00,840
questions. Any questions?

967
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,600
Thank you. Thank you Ok.

968
01:17:08,810 --> 01:17:10,350
How was the health like to dress?

969
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,300
I just stepped in half on the crazy tax

970
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:20,680
firms in town or they're quite, they're preparing to pose me as, I'm pretty good at talking

971
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,160
one on one, I'm terrible if it's so if I start struggling, I might start crying even

972
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:29,820
who knows what will happen but I'll give it my best shot. I just, I came from

973
01:17:29,820 --> 01:17:30,260
Minnesota,

974
01:17:32,500 --> 01:17:36,900
I don't like Minnesota, I like South Dakota, they had a mass

975
01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:43,160
mandate quite a while ago. We're not number one anymore, by the way, Rhode Island and in the NR.

976
01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:50,240
Minnesota is almost identical right now, per capita cases. They've had a mass mandate since

977
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,800
forever, and they're shutting everything down, and that's the last six days. So

978
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:01,340
as far as the debate being over, it's not. They worked, Minnesota shouldn't have any cases.

979
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,780
They don't even have businesses open.

980
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,920
Last six days, there's high as we are.

981
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,620
I'm sure you pretty sure Rhode Island,

982
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,520
I don't know about Rhode Island,

983
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,440
but just knowing where they are,

984
01:18:11,620 --> 01:18:12,540
they probably have one too.

985
01:18:13,060 --> 01:18:13,620
Didn't really look.

986
01:18:13,780 --> 01:18:16,020
But I have a graph and I can send it to you guys.

987
01:18:16,140 --> 01:18:16,520
I didn't yet.

988
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:17,920
It'll show you with the option downs.

989
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,380
We're in the Midwest, it got cold.

990
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,320
We all stayed inside.

991
01:18:21,380 --> 01:18:24,320
I don't think it's gonna do any good.

992
01:18:25,020 --> 01:18:27,980
And what you said division, 100%.

993
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:29,540
It's gonna create that.

994
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,000
It's gonna make us police each other

995
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:38,960
and vote on it with some with a fine in it or don't do it or go all I don't think so I can respect the fact he vote on it with a fine

996
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:43,160
Don't want it, but that's all I got

997
01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:50,460
Thank you

998
01:18:50,460 --> 01:18:53,120
Anyone else who wants to address the council?

999
01:19:07,140 --> 01:19:11,060
Okay, my name is Cindy Parsley. I live at 709 East 7th Street

1000
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:37,860
I'm also not good at this, so I'm a little nervous and I apologize I'm probably gonna trip over my words, but I guess for the I had a little bit of a problem with the doing what was ethically right because the people I I don't wear a mask, but I have my reasons for not wearing one like somebody who's wearing one has their reasons.

1001
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,960
I don't assume that you're afraid and that's why you're wearing one.

1002
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:47,820
Any more than you should assume the reason I don't is because I'm an ethical or I'm

1003
01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:48,380
apathetic.

1004
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:54,700
I do research, I've done a lot of research, I don't see a lot of backing.

1005
01:19:56,140 --> 01:20:04,980
One thing I do pride myself as belonging to a community, honestly, I'll have to say that

1006
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:10,340
But I've probably done more shopping in this community in the last nine months because

1007
01:20:10,340 --> 01:20:15,160
of all the restrictions in Sioux Falls and when they placed a mandate, I headed to County

1008
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:15,440
Fair.

1009
01:20:16,060 --> 01:20:21,260
I don't go to Walmart anymore, all day and none of those, I will continue to give business

1010
01:20:21,260 --> 01:20:22,100
to County Fair.

1011
01:20:23,260 --> 01:20:26,320
And that's one of the reasons is just because I feel like it's not forced.

1012
01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:32,360
I do not, I keep my social distance, you know, I am smart, I can make my own decisions

1013
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:36,600
and I respect people's decisions to be able to do that.

1014
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,900
So I just feel like that if this is, I believe,

1015
01:20:41,260 --> 01:20:44,460
that if this is mandated, I can also see where it could take,

1016
01:20:44,620 --> 01:20:48,300
it could have an opposite effect and decrease business

1017
01:20:48,300 --> 01:20:50,320
because if you're going to demand it here,

1018
01:20:50,620 --> 01:20:53,060
then why not go to the other places where I can save money?

1019
01:20:53,940 --> 01:20:58,180
It seems like that it could have the opposite effect as well.

1020
01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:05,400
But I don't want to be looked at as an ethical because they don't wear a mask and that takes

1021
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:06,080
courage too.

1022
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:10,200
It takes a lot of courage to walk into somewhere without a mask because you do feel like

1023
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,040
you're looked down on.

1024
01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:13,820
You do feel like you're apologizing so shaky.

1025
01:21:14,460 --> 01:21:19,720
You do feel like you're being judged and so we're saying, you know, we're not judging

1026
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,000
you but don't judge us either.

1027
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:28,760
So, I just feel like that if it's mandated, it will have an opposite effect of what you think it will.

1028
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,500
So, I'm going to keep that short and sweet.

1029
01:21:30,660 --> 01:21:31,160
So, thank you.

1030
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:34,360
No, don't ask the shaking.

1031
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:35,560
I wish

1032
01:21:44,710 --> 01:21:47,630
it was to address the council for that.

1033
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:52,450
Thank you, council.

1034
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:53,330
I don't get up.

1035
01:21:53,450 --> 01:21:54,350
I'm not in a lot of meetings.

1036
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:55,030
I don't talk.

1037
01:21:55,110 --> 01:21:56,330
My name is Pastor Brandon Wenzel.

1038
01:21:56,490 --> 01:21:57,930
I'm a Pastor of Quest Church, 1403.

1039
01:21:58,690 --> 01:22:00,170
North Highway 77 Plaza.

1040
01:22:00,910 --> 01:22:01,230
Right, Mark.

1041
01:22:01,710 --> 01:22:01,830
All right.

1042
01:22:02,750 --> 01:22:05,030
I'm not going to get up here and argue one way or the other.

1043
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:07,410
I will say that I fill out that survey.

1044
01:22:07,870 --> 01:22:12,010
We said that we would be in support if the city supported it in their own right because

1045
01:22:12,010 --> 01:22:15,090
we believe in honoring our local government at our church.

1046
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:18,970
Even though we don't fall under the retail of the ordinance, we would honor that in whatever

1047
01:22:18,970 --> 01:22:19,510
you want.

1048
01:22:20,150 --> 01:22:23,230
Right now, we do not require people to wear masks in our church.

1049
01:22:24,510 --> 01:22:27,830
And so we would just, we would like to follow our government.

1050
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:32,110
And so in Marlena, we trust you guys, whatever you guys decide.

1051
01:22:32,850 --> 01:22:45,250
I am shaking out leghood and ridiculous, but based on what's been said tonight, what I would suggest is,

1052
01:22:45,870 --> 01:22:48,650
just, I don't know what kind of partnership we can get with the Vera.

1053
01:22:48,990 --> 01:22:53,470
Vera's got a great marketing campaign right now for a mascot South Dakota.

1054
01:22:53,470 --> 01:22:54,710
They got graphics made.

1055
01:22:55,310 --> 01:23:00,290
I don't know if they have programs out there to help purchase PPE or whatever for businesses that

1056
01:23:00,290 --> 01:23:14,070
do want to have that. If it becomes a financial issue, I will say that question would stand behind it and help provide PPE for businesses that run through it a lot or whatever might not have that possibility.

1057
01:23:14,750 --> 01:23:23,750
But I just want to get up and say we honor you guys and whatever you guys say tonight is good. I think I know where it's going, but I would just say let's hit the marketing hard.

1058
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:30,890
Let's send a unified message. That's what's kind of been being said. We want to honor freedom, we want to honor personal choice,

1059
01:23:30,890 --> 01:23:32,070
but we also want to honor

1060
01:23:33,130 --> 01:23:39,410
Being smart about things and so whatever you guys decide questions would be in full support of that, so

1061
01:23:40,170 --> 01:23:42,130
Anything else that you guys want to ask me tonight?

1062
01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:45,440
Thanks guys.

1063
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:58,720
My

1064
01:24:00,830 --> 01:24:05,290
name is Lisa Pishki, 503's, 12th and married to the guy with a time limit over here

1065
01:24:06,050 --> 01:24:09,790
I just wanted to get up and say the conversation to me is awesome.

1066
01:24:10,110 --> 01:24:13,310
I love when you can get into a room and everyone can share their points of view.

1067
01:24:13,770 --> 01:24:17,130
We all have a lot of perspective to offer, so that's really cool that everyone did.

1068
01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:23,490
And I guess I just wanted to point out that I'm hearing honestly the exact same message,

1069
01:24:24,050 --> 01:24:28,030
even though we all have different facts behind it, we all have a different perspective and

1070
01:24:28,030 --> 01:24:29,210
how we want it done.

1071
01:24:29,210 --> 01:24:35,430
I think we're having hearing the same message that it should be consistent messaging, which

1072
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:39,750
is why I would support a different word than ordinance.

1073
01:24:40,430 --> 01:24:43,030
I like resolution, I like education.

1074
01:24:44,710 --> 01:24:50,490
Ordnance means something already, and so I think using that word, if you want to be a strong

1075
01:24:50,490 --> 01:24:56,270
leader, if you want to be, you know, promote health, that's not what ordinance means.

1076
01:24:56,270 --> 01:25:01,750
So I would just urge all of you to consider the words that you're using remember that they mean something and

1077
01:25:02,270 --> 01:25:06,970
Then kind of go back to what the objective is. I think from the very beginning the objective here

1078
01:25:06,970 --> 01:25:08,670
Is what can we do to help our community?

1079
01:25:09,450 --> 01:25:13,450
Times are tough, you know people are sick businesses are struggling

1080
01:25:14,510 --> 01:25:22,530
So kind of just go back to the objective and if you're objective isn't to you know push an idea on someone but maybe help them

1081
01:25:22,530 --> 01:25:28,410
just use language that I guess supports that but otherwise awesome

1082
01:25:28,410 --> 01:25:32,170
conversation really proud to be part of this community. Any questions?

1083
01:25:34,780 --> 01:25:35,100
I still have

1084
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:36,180
a couple minutes I think.

1085
01:25:41,060 --> 01:25:41,820
I

1086
01:25:45,690 --> 01:25:51,310
think you mentioned resolution that's what I think Brandon did.

1087
01:25:56,350 --> 01:26:06,950
Yeah, they are in a process of enacting a resolution, it's very somewhat similar to

1088
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:12,390
the verbiage in this ordinance, is anyone else who would like to address the council?

1089
01:26:15,740 --> 01:26:19,480
Thank you very much for your opinions and speaking.

1090
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,540
I think great Mel Allen, you all remember him, don't you?

1091
01:26:24,020 --> 01:26:26,280
Going, going, going, God, man.

1092
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,040
I have work.

1093
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:28,680
Okay.

1094
01:26:32,020 --> 01:26:32,520
Okay.

1095
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:32,900
Okay.

1096
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,220
Sandy Packenbach, three and four, you seven straight.

1097
01:26:35,860 --> 01:26:41,700
A couple things that I wanted to point out is, I have had COVID, my whole family has had COVID.

1098
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:46,160
I'm not going to wear a mask when I've already had it.

1099
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,080
And I know they say that there is asymptomatic spread

1100
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,140
or you can get it again, the information

1101
01:26:51,140 --> 01:26:52,800
and this just is six for that is super low.

1102
01:26:52,940 --> 01:26:53,900
And I'll bring that next time.

1103
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,620
But one thing I didn't touch on was the divide

1104
01:26:58,620 --> 01:27:00,560
in the community and the lasting effects for that.

1105
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,940
COVID, we don't know how long it's going to be here.

1106
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:05,280
It may end next year.

1107
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,040
You know, it may end once they bring the vaccine out.

1108
01:27:08,540 --> 01:27:09,220
It may end.

1109
01:27:09,340 --> 01:27:10,900
We don't know what's going to happen.

1110
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,160
But what is going to last longer than this virus

1111
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:22,060
is if I'm walking into somewhere and I, you know, in Sioux Falls, there's been many instances

1112
01:27:22,060 --> 01:27:25,900
where somebody has approached someone and said, you're going to kill somebody's grandma

1113
01:27:25,900 --> 01:27:29,280
or you're going to do this. Like, there's been death threats against people.

1114
01:27:29,740 --> 01:27:33,720
Now, I read an article the other day about Rapid City and the suicide rates.

1115
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:39,480
It's risen 200 and some percent, 227, something like that in their teens.

1116
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,020
Now, kids here in Del Rapids already have a hard enough time.

1117
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:47,740
I've heard from many people the bullying situations that occur.

1118
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:55,000
Now, when they're out and about and that kind of stuff, whether it comes from an adult, a child,

1119
01:27:55,620 --> 01:27:59,180
you're adding bullying all over the place, whether it's bullying to wear a mask,

1120
01:27:59,420 --> 01:28:00,740
bullying to not wear a mask.

1121
01:28:01,260 --> 01:28:05,180
I just want people to understand that there's going to be lasting effects for this.

1122
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:10,280
And in five years or ten years, this is always going to be something.

1123
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:16,180
You know, there's going to be the divide in the community, how people treat each other in these tough times.

1124
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:20,740
And so I really think that it's important to also think about that.

1125
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:26,440
Anyone else?

1126
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,060
I know you were just dying.

1127
01:28:37,540 --> 01:28:39,120
Did you see it in my eye?

1128
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,340
No, I was like, hey, I'm Allison Magneton.

1129
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,520
Okay, there's a lot of things I'm going to say, but I'm going to say two things.

1130
01:28:47,820 --> 01:28:50,540
First, it started with stay home.

1131
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,700
Don't leave your house or your murderer.

1132
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,160
Then it was where your damn mask, if you don't, your murderer.

1133
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,340
What's the third thing going to be?

1134
01:28:59,460 --> 01:29:03,440
I have a feeling it's a vaccine and that's going to be shoved down our throat.

1135
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:05,500
You can't come to school if you don't have the COVID vaccine.

1136
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,020
It's getting ridiculous.

1137
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:07,860
Okay.

1138
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:08,700
That's my first one.

1139
01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:16,120
My second one is, I live in the middle of nowhere for a reason, and it's not for the

1140
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,920
weather, it's for my freedom.

1141
01:29:18,780 --> 01:29:22,340
Sioux Falls is too liberal for me, I can't even go there.

1142
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:29,720
I know this isn't politics, but they're taking away our rights and our freedoms, and

1143
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,980
I know this isn't a right or a freedom thing, it's about health and whatever.

1144
01:29:35,180 --> 01:29:43,960
But I think a lot of people that live here do it because we want to.

1145
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,860
And it's going to start making me not want to live here anymore.

1146
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,360
If dollar app it's just going to start turning into Sioux Falls,

1147
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:52,360
which is turning into Minneapolis.

1148
01:29:53,340 --> 01:29:56,320
And like, let's just like not get too big for our bridges.

1149
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:56,920
You know what I mean?

1150
01:29:57,500 --> 01:29:58,580
So that's all I mean to say.

1151
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,500
Is there

1152
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:09,560
anyone else who would like to, yeah, one more. Bill?

1153
01:30:12,980 --> 01:30:14,680
I'm Bill Swift and I live.

1154
01:30:15,060 --> 01:30:25,760
Pretty silly. There's not going to be anyone left who hasn't been up here, right? Well, the observation I have is we had the Bill Swift.

1155
01:30:28,460 --> 01:30:36,980
I guess one math with it is, you know, ordinance, not ordinance, it's December, the stuff started in February.

1156
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:42,480
They'll wait to get moving on something like this. I believe information's out there.

1157
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:48,680
You've got people giving statistics that they're close, no hard numbers.

1158
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:53,780
The other thing is, if you have so many people that are forward in the mask, why are they?

1159
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:56,240
That's all I got to say.

1160
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:06,520
Anyone left that wants to talk to the people?

1161
01:31:12,420 --> 01:31:14,160
No, he's like the only one left.

1162
01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:19,760
Well, if there isn't anyone else who wants to address the council first off,

1163
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,500
thank you for being here tonight.

1164
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:31,020
In the course of a year there's maybe one meeting or two where we get the chairs filled.

1165
01:31:31,020 --> 01:31:36,260
So most of the time there's one or two people sitting here, so that's different.

1166
01:31:36,460 --> 01:31:42,800
But again, thank you and for expressing your opinions and your feelings on this issue.

1167
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:52,560
As has been stated, you know, it's a, I look at it as a health issue, it's there.

1168
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:57,460
Someone asked, when this all started, someone asked me if I'd ever seen anything like this

1169
01:31:57,460 --> 01:32:03,860
in my life, and I said, when I was a kid, I knew if I went and some of the time I went

1170
01:32:03,860 --> 01:32:06,260
to a swimming pool, I was going to catch polio and die.

1171
01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:14,100
And that's what that was before the vaccine came, and when the vaccine showed up, it was

1172
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:21,840
just mass inoculation of kids, when that all had ancient history and long time ago and

1173
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:32,240
whatever. I just hope that, you know, that people do look at facts and they do look at information

1174
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:38,820
and they do make good decisions. It's their own personal health and to the extent of the people

1175
01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:46,280
they interact with, it has an impact on them. And this, you know, since this started last March,

1176
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:53,900
Everything that this council has acted on has always been with the goal of making a good

1177
01:32:53,900 --> 01:32:57,980
decision and doing what we thought was right and best for the community.

1178
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:05,080
As has been mentioned, you know, we – this community in the last six to eight months,

1179
01:33:05,300 --> 01:33:14,100
we have not – if you look at the financial side of things in terms of how it's impacted

1180
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:24,060
business and our and the city's income through taxation, especially sales tax, we've never had a

1181
01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:31,040
better year and it's probably because of people doing more shopping here in Dell Rapids and we

1182
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:37,240
spoke to that here a while back. So we're fortunate in that respect.

1183
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,660
I guess that the

1184
01:33:42,660 --> 01:33:50,240
And again, the reason we're here tonight is that there were some people who asked that

1185
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,160
this be brought up and discussed, and that's why we're here tonight.

1186
01:33:53,380 --> 01:33:58,900
So, again, we appreciate your being here, and we appreciate your comments.

1187
01:34:01,300 --> 01:34:04,020
Is there any action that the council wants to take?

1188
01:34:04,020 --> 01:34:05,140
Hearing

1189
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,460
none we don't move on

1190
01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:23,690
to the next item of business which is the

1191
01:34:23,690 --> 01:34:27,610
Minnehaw County property tax abatement but excuse

1192
01:34:31,060 --> 01:34:34,660
me it's the County Sheriff's Law

1193
01:34:34,660 --> 01:34:41,680
Enforcement pushed around one there either way we're looking at all of the

1194
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:46,200
ways to address the couple yeah can we get a little clarification on the city

1195
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:52,020
council's no motion or anything on that ordinance died. It's not going to be

1196
01:34:52,020 --> 01:34:55,560
brought up again two weeks for a second reading because there was no action

1197
01:34:56,480 --> 01:35:01,680
taken. I wasn't this wasn't the silence

1198
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:20,070
I don't know why my screen shows, it's reversed not there.

1199
01:35:20,090 --> 01:35:20,850
Property tax.

1200
01:35:20,850 --> 01:35:20,950
Yes.

1201
01:35:22,630 --> 01:35:27,510
Many high county property tax abatement, including the council's packet, is a request for

1202
01:35:28,150 --> 01:35:34,510
four different properties to have their taxes evaded for a period of four months, September

1203
01:35:34,510 --> 01:35:39,150
or October or November or December, and end of 19 following the flooding.

1204
01:35:40,110 --> 01:35:46,530
These were made to, these requests were made to many high county on these four properties.

1205
01:35:46,530 --> 01:35:55,730
all four of these properties were affected by the fall flooding in 2019 and all

1206
01:35:55,730 --> 01:36:00,810
four properties were deemed substantially damaged, therefore, basically

1207
01:36:00,810 --> 01:36:07,610
and uninhabitable in their current state. So I guess I recommend support of

1208
01:36:08,490 --> 01:36:15,550
us proving all four of these properties actually. I can agree with that but where's

1209
01:36:15,550 --> 01:36:25,570
other six. That was my question. These property owners, the county has equalization when they did it

1210
01:36:25,570 --> 01:36:34,630
for everybody. But they did it for 2020. They weren't able to do it for the period between September and December.

1211
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:43,550
So all the other ones have are for 2020 but they weren't able to do that for the previous years.

1212
01:36:43,550 --> 01:36:46,810
but these poor properties filled out the paperwork and divot.

1213
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:48,710
The other properties have not done that.

1214
01:36:50,710 --> 01:36:52,410
Could they still do it?

1215
01:36:52,650 --> 01:36:56,050
I think potentially before the end of the year,

1216
01:36:58,100 --> 01:37:00,100
should it be third on a little bit?

1217
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:02,320
Or can we just...

1218
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,140
So you're looking for a motion to approve this?

1219
01:37:04,500 --> 01:37:06,400
Why don't you make it a motion to approve this

1220
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:07,900
and why don't you include in that motion

1221
01:37:07,900 --> 01:37:10,940
evading the others and now see if we can let the county

1222
01:37:10,940 --> 01:37:11,720
just do that?

1223
01:37:11,900 --> 01:37:12,560
So move.

1224
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:13,260
Yeah.

1225
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:31,780
The other 6 be notified of some of the other 5, it's a little data pass array that do this year, and that's a potential to, I'm guessing no, probably on some of them, but unless they have like us growing on mortgage or something.

1226
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:40,420
Okay, the motion made by Mark is to approve these in and approve any other abatements related

1227
01:37:40,420 --> 01:37:41,060
to properties.

1228
01:37:42,220 --> 01:37:49,220
The other five properties under the FEMA umbrella, however you want to say it, and James

1229
01:37:49,220 --> 01:37:51,060
has sectioned it that-

1230
01:37:51,060 --> 01:37:52,060
Well, I've got one question.

1231
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:58,760
What about the other property that wasn't able to get under this and is going through the

1232
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:07,380
program, Justin. I would say that since he's not going with me, his was not substantially damaged.

1233
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:16,220
Got it. You're right, got it. And he's okay if you, we were talking about nine properties,

1234
01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:21,340
not ten, we had ten. Yeah, we had one drop out of the ten. Yeah.

1235
01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:27,760
Okay, are we clear on the motion?

1236
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:28,720
and what we're doing.

1237
01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:29,560
Okay.

1238
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:30,100
All in favor.

1239
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,220
Signify by saying aye.

1240
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:31,800
Aye.

1241
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:32,600
Opposed nay.

1242
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:33,860
Motion is carried.

1243
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:35,920
Okay.

1244
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:37,440
Now you want to do the county.

1245
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:38,020
Sure.

1246
01:38:38,020 --> 01:38:38,240
Do that.

1247
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:38,620
Yes.

1248
01:38:39,740 --> 01:38:45,440
Attached is the county sheriff contract for the next year.

1249
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:50,360
This is in the amount of $221,791.60.

1250
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,560
This was a 2.7% increase in the 2020 contract.

1251
01:38:54,560 --> 01:39:00,300
This was approved for the 2021 budget, just a promality to have the mayor signature on the

1252
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:00,440
track.

1253
01:39:02,830 --> 01:39:03,230
No different.

1254
01:39:03,770 --> 01:39:04,890
Move to approved by Chad.

1255
01:39:04,890 --> 01:39:06,410
Is there a second second?

1256
01:39:06,770 --> 01:39:08,130
Seconded by Bob.

1257
01:39:08,290 --> 01:39:08,550
All right.

1258
01:39:08,650 --> 01:39:09,650
We'll see if I have the same guy.

1259
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:10,350
All right.

1260
01:39:10,350 --> 01:39:11,790
I have all the name, motion carried.

1261
01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:19,190
Next is ordinance number 87, supplemental budget for 2020.

1262
01:39:19,190 --> 01:39:27,280
I'm actually pretty good, I prefer my explanation than not the actual ordinance.

1263
01:39:34,730 --> 01:39:40,630
If it works well better FEMA, we wouldn't be taking anything as a reserve for once.

1264
01:39:43,190 --> 01:39:47,310
Going through the line item just especially to see what everything is for.

1265
01:39:48,150 --> 01:39:51,790
Do you all have this copy of the color, copy in front of you?

1266
01:39:52,330 --> 01:39:53,970
Okay, I tried it to our point.

1267
01:39:53,970 --> 01:40:08,330
Okay, so everything is green except for the last two, where there's library, community support, there's a little bit of COVID in there, but everything in green is non-COVID, non FEMA.

1268
01:40:09,210 --> 01:40:13,130
So, the first two items are journal government and finance.

1269
01:40:14,490 --> 01:40:17,430
Unfortunately, it's your bulk substance and my laptop died.

1270
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:28,270
So we have for a new laptop sitting in front of us, but so costs associated with the new laptop and stuff.

1271
01:40:30,030 --> 01:40:35,270
Next one, Delta, and now it's building and maintenance. All of this is COVID-related.

1272
01:40:35,830 --> 01:40:42,510
We have not spent $10,000 in this particular section, but I'm adding it so we can purchase more.

1273
01:40:42,510 --> 01:40:53,790
Like we were talking about masks, I'm in the middle of loading my Amazon cart right now with a bunch of PPE that will get reimbursed to the state.

1274
01:40:53,910 --> 01:41:01,330
So anything in orange or gold is COVID and will be reimbursed 100%.

1275
01:41:01,330 --> 01:41:10,410
I'm getting free for both for everything fire department. We were pre-approved for both

1276
01:41:10,410 --> 01:41:18,630
a fire and the ambulance to get $24,000 worth of radios. I don't understand how it's

1277
01:41:18,630 --> 01:41:27,230
COVID but it was approved so we went with it. So we purchased I think it was 14 radios with

1278
01:41:27,230 --> 01:41:35,730
this new state system for each the fire department and the ambulance and it is re-imversed through

1279
01:41:35,730 --> 01:41:40,530
the COVID funding. That's for that $25,000 question. Just a pet over there.

1280
01:41:41,890 --> 01:41:53,670
Co-inforcement, both he and Diane, Diane got laptops and we're set up with, yeah, laptops and

1281
01:41:53,670 --> 01:42:00,530
we're set up with VPN. They're not as robust as ours as the VPN into their systems

1282
01:42:00,530 --> 01:42:07,430
here. That was really merciful. So they can work for the whole. So they can work for

1283
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:08,470
me. Can't read my mind.

1284
01:42:11,410 --> 01:42:16,730
Then there's other protection. This is a new department. I added

1285
01:42:16,730 --> 01:42:21,570
actually just on Friday after talking with Rod Fortin from DOA.

1286
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:32,760
So there are $79,000 of FEMA cost

1287
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,340
the flood repair. So everything, especially with the second flood, there's a little bit

1288
01:42:36,340 --> 01:42:44,340
with the first flood that wasn't as bad, but the second flood was very, very costly. There

1289
01:42:44,340 --> 01:42:54,860
There were $79,000, so I created this account department and account in it to cover that

1290
01:42:54,860 --> 01:43:00,720
to cover those expenses because anything we go over in spending, even if it's even

1291
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,420
a reimburse, we're spending it.

1292
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:11,920
So with this $79,000, 85% of it was reimbursed with the state and the federal government.

1293
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:18,420
The other 15% is $12,000.

1294
01:43:21,010 --> 01:43:32,540
The other portion of this is the amount of what you see here, so it's also FEMA but it's

1295
01:43:32,540 --> 01:43:33,860
with the bio portion.

1296
01:43:34,060 --> 01:43:39,100
So there's two different parts of this FEMA with the FEMA money.

1297
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:50,540
So there's $60,000 that we have spent with Seacock fees and that's all of their work with putting these properties together.

1298
01:43:51,980 --> 01:43:57,320
Close to $5,000 in its fastest testing and $15,000 in the payment.

1299
01:43:57,480 --> 01:43:59,000
Now this is all across that.

1300
01:43:59,420 --> 01:44:04,420
We're incurred this year and so that needs to be included in our budget.

1301
01:44:04,420 --> 01:44:09,460
Yes, we were getting reimbursed for that, but it's going out the door. It's also coming back in the door.

1302
01:44:09,700 --> 01:44:14,000
So we have to work out for that. Do you have questions on that one before I move on?

1303
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,960
Yeah, so the, especially us and all that.

1304
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,300
Does that come with property owners?

1305
01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:24,280
That's where the owner is. It comes out of the property owners.

1306
01:44:24,740 --> 01:44:27,660
Correct. But we are getting passed through.

1307
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:28,540
We're getting passed through.

1308
01:44:28,540 --> 01:44:30,860
We're getting passed through, but it's basically coming up.

1309
01:44:30,860 --> 01:44:42,340
So down below, you'll see the FEMA reimbursement part, so that blue part there is, so that $79,000

1310
01:44:42,340 --> 01:44:50,780
that first blue FEMA reimbursement is the FEMA bio, that's 100% covered by federal funds.

1311
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:59,840
The other two there, the 63 and the 84, 100, are for the flooding.

1312
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:10,760
That's 75% federal and 10% state, and so then that other 15% is on us, and that will be coming out of the contingency portion.

1313
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,960
this contingency, which is $38,450.

1314
01:45:34,900 --> 01:45:37,380
We put a $50,000 contingency.

1315
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,520
No, it is not that much ever.

1316
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:41,020
You just said at the beginning,

1317
01:45:41,180 --> 01:45:42,680
this is the first time you had to pull.

1318
01:45:43,740 --> 01:45:44,740
You're just saying that's temporary.

1319
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:50,120
So this part down here is essentially revenues.

1320
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,720
And it needs to match the expenses.

1321
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:59,880
And so down here is the grain is contingency what you ask.

1322
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,940
We are going over budget, but we budget it for $50,000 over budget.

1323
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:10,520
The blue is the FEMA funds coming in, and the COVID reimbursement coming in is the gold.

1324
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,400
The reserves, both below that, where there's nothing, it says none.

1325
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:19,780
Typically, in the past, we've had something come out of reserve, and then we've had to pull out of there.

1326
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,120
At this year, we are not.

1327
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:22,880
She said it.

1328
01:46:23,580 --> 01:46:24,060
Yeah.

1329
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:26,260
I heard it wrong too.

1330
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:26,800
I'm sorry.

1331
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:29,860
Again, make sense in my head.

1332
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,120
We're trying to read your mind.

1333
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:32,920
Yeah, we're trying to read your mind.

1334
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:35,380
I understand it was really hard for me to explain things.

1335
01:46:35,500 --> 01:46:35,880
I'm sorry.

1336
01:46:38,300 --> 01:46:40,540
OK, no other question, but another protection.

1337
01:46:43,820 --> 01:46:46,860
Mosquito, we just purchased more spray than previous years.

1338
01:46:47,020 --> 01:46:48,460
My assumption, I didn't ask clearance,

1339
01:46:48,460 --> 01:46:51,760
but it was very nice this year.

1340
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:53,760
So they were able to spray a little bit more than usual.

1341
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,600
Ambulance, they have.

1342
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:10,740
This is very padded because there is something in there. There's this lift that is about $60,000 that they're hoping to get free approved by the state.

1343
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:15,900
It has not been so far, so we've not purchased it and once it is free approved.

1344
01:47:17,220 --> 01:47:25,800
There's been a few other things that they have been approved for and some of it the parties already come in and they have some or one of them is a PAPERS.

1345
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:31,280
I can tell you more about what it is, it's a head piece.

1346
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:45,860
It's a white, it's a hood, it's a hood, you know, and then it's got to be an air system.

1347
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:54,180
I believe most of your transports now are COVID-related or are considered COVID-related.

1348
01:47:54,180 --> 01:47:55,960
So that was one of the main issues with that.

1349
01:47:56,140 --> 01:48:06,140
They also got the radios, the, what's that compression thing, they got in the, the

1350
01:48:06,140 --> 01:48:13,380
Lucas compression machine, that was approved, I can't remember ever, they, were acting as

1351
01:48:13,380 --> 01:48:15,620
a pass through for the ambulance and the fire department.

1352
01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:15,760
Yeah.

1353
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:21,980
They're obviously on site agencies, but they're being, that money is being provided through

1354
01:48:27,180 --> 01:48:34,440
This is not an actual expense. We track all of our water usage. We have meters on all of our

1355
01:48:34,440 --> 01:48:44,400
lift station, lift station, excuse me, conversation at the pool, at the campground. And this most

1356
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:50,260
it is just because of the new work for the campground in the shower house. We just expanded more on

1357
01:48:50,260 --> 01:48:51,120
on water.

1358
01:48:54,150 --> 01:49:00,510
Parks, this was personnel, most of it, 85% of it was reimbursed, the diapers

1359
01:49:00,510 --> 01:49:05,630
out, obviously at the park a lot more than they were in 3 years here. It wasn't boring

1360
01:49:05,630 --> 01:49:05,890
you.

1361
01:49:12,490 --> 01:49:21,830
Library, they had a couple, especially if they were not expecting, $6,700 is an air

1362
01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:28,290
conditioner. I almost said we paid over the last six years on the initial subpar

1363
01:49:28,290 --> 01:49:36,990
conditioner. So that part is that's the green in there. The other end and the

1364
01:49:36,990 --> 01:49:48,010
COVID the booksteralizer. That was a mistake and that's partially my fault and we

1365
01:49:48,010 --> 01:49:54,670
We assumed it was, so a book sterilizer, and Dave can probably speak to this.

1366
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:59,110
You basically put a book in the oven and 60 seconds, 10 seconds, pretty quick.

1367
01:49:59,110 --> 01:49:59,850
Yeah, you can put it up.

1368
01:49:59,990 --> 01:50:02,010
I believe up to 20 items in there.

1369
01:50:02,330 --> 01:50:07,070
It's something that's allowing the library to operate and operate safely for our place.

1370
01:50:07,490 --> 01:50:11,830
So our number is two falls and we have to quarantine everything for seven days.

1371
01:50:12,610 --> 01:50:15,790
This way they don't quarantine if they do it for like a day.

1372
01:50:15,790 --> 01:50:23,250
because you can put it in and it's everything. DVDs, phones, and you can put everything in it.

1373
01:50:23,390 --> 01:50:29,890
We thought this, but they came back and said, a book serializer, I think it's a library.

1374
01:50:29,950 --> 01:50:32,290
A library is not an essential form of government.

1375
01:50:33,470 --> 01:50:34,530
It's an essential service.

1376
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:37,410
And we, yes, thank you.

1377
01:50:39,510 --> 01:50:46,030
So we didn't take her that, but I think, I mean, I myself, I read a lot and unfortunately

1378
01:50:46,030 --> 01:50:49,310
it's an expense that we're going to have to take on now, we have it, we can't do anything

1379
01:50:49,310 --> 01:50:54,490
about it, but I do know I did have to bring in, and she has tried to pull back on purchasing

1380
01:50:54,490 --> 01:50:59,590
some other things, I'm not going totally buying all of her books this year, and a few other

1381
01:50:59,590 --> 01:51:03,970
things she has decided not to do, so it is covering a portion of it across.

1382
01:51:03,970 --> 01:51:14,950
Um, and then there were some book trucks, um, just because there's a lot more books going in and out, um, the book trucks were approved by, uh, for COVID reimbursement.

1383
01:51:15,250 --> 01:51:17,990
And, um, yeah, I know.

1384
01:51:18,250 --> 01:51:21,750
Because because it was under certain amount.

1385
01:51:22,410 --> 01:51:22,830
Yeah.

1386
01:51:23,670 --> 01:51:25,050
Guess that I were all in there.

1387
01:51:25,710 --> 01:51:27,130
Um, community support.

1388
01:51:27,130 --> 01:51:33,290
support. But yet we have how much to spend that they want to get back. That makes a perfect

1389
01:51:33,290 --> 01:51:41,340
sense. Well, $100,000 a year. Can we edit that up? They're very, very, very, very

1390
01:51:41,340 --> 01:51:45,460
But you know it's our money and we don't spend it.

1391
01:51:46,660 --> 01:51:47,680
That's an exact number.

1392
01:51:48,180 --> 01:51:49,820
Our work has an everybody's.

1393
01:51:49,980 --> 01:51:52,480
The last one is community support.

1394
01:51:53,460 --> 01:51:55,680
5,000 of this is my fault.

1395
01:51:56,140 --> 01:52:01,360
I put in the amount that they requested two years ago and not last year.

1396
01:52:02,220 --> 01:52:08,920
And they requested more and so I praised them more and because I went off of their request sheet.

1397
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:20,580
And, anyways, $5,000 is my full $3,000 is the fund that we gave them to work with the community for COVID, and that was reversed.

1398
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:26,200
So, based on the conversation we had tonight earlier, should we bump that up?

1399
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:28,900
Bump what? The $3,000?

1400
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:30,520
For public education stuff? Yeah.

1401
01:52:30,820 --> 01:52:35,820
They have not spent their total $3,000, and I think Dan Heaney's suspended by the end of the year.

1402
01:52:35,820 --> 01:52:40,480
Okay. And I think they should have three dollars

1403
01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:41,340
would cover anything.

1404
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:41,800
Yes.

1405
01:52:42,340 --> 01:52:42,440
Yeah.

1406
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,500
And they have to spend it on.

1407
01:52:44,780 --> 01:52:45,600
I don't know.

1408
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:46,260
Where would you buy it?

1409
01:52:46,820 --> 01:52:49,460
Like math or whatever, but you have to find somebody

1410
01:52:49,460 --> 01:52:50,040
in the air.

1411
01:52:50,300 --> 01:52:50,420
Okay.

1412
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:53,650
Any questions?

1413
01:52:54,090 --> 01:52:54,370
Other than that?

1414
01:52:59,330 --> 01:53:00,010
We need two.

1415
01:53:00,230 --> 01:53:00,810
First reading.

1416
01:53:00,990 --> 01:53:01,730
First reading.

1417
01:53:01,850 --> 01:53:02,350
First reading.

1418
01:53:02,450 --> 01:53:02,890
Abortment.

1419
01:53:03,010 --> 01:53:03,750
Eight, eight, seven.

1420
01:53:04,270 --> 01:53:05,050
We need a motion.

1421
01:53:05,390 --> 01:53:08,310
Some will buy a bot to approve first reading.

1422
01:53:08,370 --> 01:53:08,770
Abortment.

1423
01:53:08,930 --> 01:53:10,030
Eight, seven.

1424
01:53:10,270 --> 01:53:10,790
Is there a second?

1425
01:53:12,070 --> 01:53:13,190
Seconded by Bill.

1426
01:53:13,410 --> 01:53:14,970
I'm a favorite single five saying aye.

1427
01:53:15,830 --> 01:53:17,170
I'm going to be in any motion.

1428
01:53:17,390 --> 01:53:17,670
It's carried.

1429
01:53:18,670 --> 01:53:21,190
Now we get down for our old faithful.

1430
01:53:21,450 --> 01:53:21,820
Is that right?

1431
01:53:25,150 --> 01:53:26,290
We didn't have the rule.

1432
01:53:27,290 --> 01:53:29,190
This first reading, first reading.

1433
01:53:29,550 --> 01:53:30,330
Second reading.

1434
01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:31,390
We're going to do a rule.

1435
01:53:31,610 --> 01:53:31,930
All right.

1436
01:53:32,670 --> 01:53:33,150
All right.

1437
01:53:33,370 --> 01:53:34,130
All right.

1438
01:53:34,290 --> 01:53:37,630
Now next is resolution 2015-15.

1439
01:53:37,630 --> 01:53:44,650
We've been paying, and are attached as the paperwork associated with the grant the city received,

1440
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:52,370
solidated grant for the six-street project in the amount of $750,000 not to exceed $750,000.

1441
01:53:53,030 --> 01:54:03,510
You know, the time receiving the grant, we hadn't moved forward with finalizing paper work until we knew we were going to be moving forward with the project.

1442
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:22,570
So, starting to get the paper work in line with the DNR to begin looking at setting up our bonds and, you know, we're going to be having discussions on the ordinance's adoption on rates and everything in that nature and looking at resolution of necessity for six streets.

1443
01:54:22,850 --> 01:54:32,030
So, this is just a kind of a first step, getting some of the paper we're going with the DNR for getting our funding set up for this speech project.

1444
01:54:32,030 --> 01:54:37,550
And this is what this is as a resolution supporting the mayor's signature on the grant

1445
01:54:37,550 --> 01:54:38,030
outpricated.

1446
01:54:38,190 --> 01:54:39,830
On the grants award.

1447
01:54:41,210 --> 01:54:42,890
So I make the motion to approve.

1448
01:54:44,250 --> 01:54:45,050
2020-2015.

1449
01:54:45,650 --> 01:54:50,830
We're going to be married to approve 2020-2015 resolution.

1450
01:54:51,150 --> 01:54:51,650
Is there a second?

1451
01:54:51,850 --> 01:54:52,030
Second.

1452
01:54:52,630 --> 01:54:53,750
Seconded by Chad.

1453
01:54:54,030 --> 01:54:55,030
Please call the roll.

1454
01:54:58,360 --> 01:54:58,580
Yes.

1455
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:00,320
Bortr.

1456
01:55:00,660 --> 01:55:00,780
Yes.

1457
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:04,080
Brown Fagan?

1458
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:04,500
Yes.

1459
01:55:04,500 --> 01:55:04,920
Yes.

1460
01:55:05,250 --> 01:55:05,680
Yes.

1461
01:55:06,220 --> 01:55:06,720
Meyer?

1462
01:55:06,980 --> 01:55:07,160
Yes.

1463
01:55:07,740 --> 01:55:08,040
Gert?

1464
01:55:08,340 --> 01:55:08,620
Yes.

1465
01:55:09,140 --> 01:55:09,480
Yes.

1466
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:12,720
Okay.

1467
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:17,020
Next is collections of utilities.

1468
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:19,620
Well, I'm every year.

1469
01:55:19,860 --> 01:55:21,840
We need to be clear.

1470
01:55:22,340 --> 01:55:22,920
There's a hand.

1471
01:55:23,220 --> 01:55:23,920
Analyze.

1472
01:55:24,460 --> 01:55:25,780
Path to utilities.

1473
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,360
That have not been paid out.

1474
01:55:28,580 --> 01:55:34,540
That we've attempted to collect from the individuals

1475
01:55:34,540 --> 01:55:39,480
schools that have unpaid utility bills with the city,

1476
01:55:40,420 --> 01:55:44,920
passed out the ordinance to the states that property owners are

1477
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:50,080
ultimately responsible for unpaid due water bills.

1478
01:55:50,820 --> 01:55:54,740
There's also a letter that's been submitted by one of the property owners

1479
01:55:54,740 --> 01:56:01,440
kind of contesting or requesting the city to consider sending the property to collection.

1480
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,800
And we've been around and around on this for many years.

1481
01:56:04,980 --> 01:56:07,400
This ordinance was relatively recently adopted,

1482
01:56:08,700 --> 01:56:12,540
regarding how the city is going to handle collecting

1483
01:56:12,540 --> 01:56:13,520
of unpaid utilities.

1484
01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:15,860
I don't think we need to rehash that tonight.

1485
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:19,960
Ultimately, the city needs an ability

1486
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:25,700
to collect these property owners that

1487
01:56:25,700 --> 01:56:29,400
have renters is what the majority of these are.

1488
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:40,260
these renters may leave, we keep their deposit and anything on top is going to be attempted to be collected from that renter.

1489
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:48,900
You know, the forwarding address is that most likely they're going to forget that bill that ultimately ends up falling out of the property.

1490
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:56,840
You know, the property only letter that's been submitted is disputing that the city's process

1491
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:02,260
associated with collection of utilities on property owners that have renters.

1492
01:57:03,260 --> 01:57:09,560
You know, it's been in two years since we kind of had an end up discussion on this.

1493
01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:15,280
And we nailed it down to this is the best method associated with collecting.

1494
01:57:16,540 --> 01:57:32,780
So with that Council could take any questions declared by recommend approval of the list as it's stated I do want to say number seven number ten and number eleven has been paid and then number one in two we got a call on today.

1495
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:40,420
We're getting a check they were sending it out today. I still want you to approve that one. Just in case we don't put this.

1496
01:57:41,260 --> 01:57:47,080
You said seven, ten, seven, ten, and eleven have been paid for water, yep.

1497
01:57:49,100 --> 01:58:00,280
You all have a copy of that letter, and I had a phone call from that party, and what

1498
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:06,500
took place was that when the letter from the city went out about this issue, it went

1499
01:58:06,500 --> 01:58:22,220
to her daughter who picks up the mail and that's how she found out about it because

1500
01:58:22,220 --> 01:58:30,040
she's there they're not here in town. So I call her, she called early this morning and

1501
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:36,780
And I was driving the bus and she had called her this evening and we talked about it

1502
01:58:36,780 --> 01:58:44,120
and she certainly, she certainly understands the position of the city in terms of these

1503
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:44,460
issues.

1504
01:58:44,660 --> 01:58:49,900
But I guess 1.2 points really and I think it's mentioned in the letter and I think in

1505
01:58:49,900 --> 01:58:57,060
a conversation I had with the employer today, that deposit amount we have right now is 125.

1506
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:06,620
And if you guys know what your water bills are, you know, most it's 90 to 100 bucks.

1507
01:59:07,060 --> 01:59:12,820
And so if I told, like I told her, if we cracked up and moved out of town,

1508
01:59:12,940 --> 01:59:20,960
and you never saw us again in two months' time, you'd rack up a $200 to $225 cost right there.

1509
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:29,640
So what we're taking in as a deposit is not matching what we would end up being stuck with the liability.

1510
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:38,300
I think what we need to consider doing is every time we increase rates, we need to increase that deposit.

1511
01:59:39,500 --> 01:59:42,660
I went back and I looked at an average.

1512
01:59:42,660 --> 01:59:52,220
we in Del Rock is considered about 3,000 gallons average per month and if you use

1513
01:59:52,220 --> 01:59:58,900
3,000 gallons for two months that would be approximately $175 and what is

1514
01:59:58,900 --> 01:59:59,440
Is there a positive?

1515
01:59:59,540 --> 01:59:59,880
No, it's fine.

1516
02:00:02,030 --> 02:00:31,770
But only two of these are passed at $125 a month. Because they've already had the one twenty-five on this. Yeah, the deposits are not right. Don't these renters have a deposit for them direct from? Yeah. And we have talked about this also in like, we want, we don't want this to happen.

1517
02:00:31,770 --> 02:00:36,990
So we want landlords to contact us when they know they're going to be up.

1518
02:00:36,990 --> 02:00:42,830
Some of these up in need, especially the ones that get large, they know that the times

1519
02:00:42,830 --> 02:00:44,030
coming and they up in need.

1520
02:00:45,270 --> 02:00:48,110
So it doesn't help either one of us.

1521
02:00:48,410 --> 02:00:49,950
But it doesn't look internal what they want.

1522
02:00:51,110 --> 02:00:51,850
No landlord.

1523
02:00:53,730 --> 02:00:55,190
Yes, yes they do.

1524
02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:59,810
But what I'm saying is there are other landlords that contact us.

1525
02:00:59,810 --> 02:01:12,650
And there was one in particular today, and he said, you know, if I rent your looks like they might be fixing the leave and not pay, basically, or not let me know, we believe in or they believe in or move in.

1526
02:01:12,990 --> 02:01:20,130
But Paul Diana asked, you know, where are they at? And Diana said, they'll be shut up at the end of the month, if they don't pay.

1527
02:01:20,130 --> 02:01:28,030
and told them the amount of, you know, we want to work with you, but we also, we don't know,

1528
02:01:28,630 --> 02:01:33,050
you know, you may have one property, you may have ten properties, we can't watch all those.

1529
02:01:33,430 --> 02:01:39,130
So, we ask the landlord to work with us, you know, it's a two-way street.

1530
02:01:41,170 --> 02:01:45,110
And before if you know your renter is going to be moving out,

1531
02:01:45,110 --> 02:01:49,250
of course I have to see where they're at and maybe you don't give their deposit all

1532
02:01:49,250 --> 02:01:49,610
back.

1533
02:01:49,750 --> 02:01:52,650
You know, I think it's telling you I would get their goods at pain or not pain.

1534
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:55,490
I mean, you didn't look at their trucker.

1535
02:01:55,830 --> 02:01:56,090
You know.

1536
02:01:57,450 --> 02:02:04,850
Right until the, what I'm getting at is the good renters, don't want to have a $200, $300

1537
02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:12,190
deposit for water, I mean, they're probably strapping up as it is and it's just hard to

1538
02:02:14,890 --> 02:02:24,790
I think that's one that we raised, it's just, you know, well, it's only recently, but I want to point out, maybe we should keep that in mind, what you're saying.

1539
02:02:24,950 --> 02:02:28,710
Because it gets really difficult for people to put the process on.

1540
02:02:29,210 --> 02:02:34,230
But if it does need to be raised up because our reigns, then so be it, but that you don't go through the rough.

1541
02:02:37,210 --> 02:02:43,230
That is true, but I say I'm earning $75 and that's to cover two months.

1542
02:02:43,850 --> 02:02:48,070
By the time we're shutting these people off or shutting these properties off, they're

1543
02:02:48,070 --> 02:02:50,630
hitting three months or two and a half to three months.

1544
02:02:51,750 --> 02:02:57,190
So we also have to do what's right to cover us too and it's not like they're just giving

1545
02:02:57,190 --> 02:02:57,690
us the money.

1546
02:02:57,830 --> 02:03:00,070
It does get applied at the end when they move out.

1547
02:03:00,070 --> 02:03:09,250
I mean, it's towards their water, and I get what you're saying, so people can't reward it, but the cost of renting, too.

1548
02:03:10,990 --> 02:03:17,410
Right, and then I guess I'll put it on the old landlords to think about the third deposit.

1549
02:03:19,970 --> 02:03:22,150
But if they're good renters, what are they going to do?

1550
02:03:22,930 --> 02:03:26,470
They're going to get their deposits back to some other place they can take that deposit.

1551
02:03:26,470 --> 02:03:31,870
Exactly. So if they're good runners, they will stay ahead of it. It's going to be the

1552
02:03:31,870 --> 02:03:41,510
bad ones that we need to stay on top of. So we don't notify the land lord when the tenants are behind

1553
02:03:41,510 --> 02:03:48,270
over the water bill. I don't know how we would do that. You don't know all properties that are being

1554
02:03:48,270 --> 02:03:53,690
rented in town per se, you know. Yeah. I think it's the land lord's responsibility to check

1555
02:03:53,690 --> 02:03:57,970
with us if they're the ones running the prop and we do have those like

1556
02:03:57,970 --> 02:04:03,250
Claire just mentioned that check with us where is that where is that

1557
02:04:03,250 --> 02:04:08,070
this account right now I don't think it's our responsibility to track a you

1558
02:04:08,070 --> 02:04:12,870
know hundreds well yeah if I was renting my house out you know and somebody

1559
02:04:12,870 --> 02:04:16,090
living there not being a water bill in the city would know that if they don't

1560
02:04:16,090 --> 02:04:20,650
want to stop with it it would be I we would encourage them to have the water

1561
02:04:20,650 --> 02:04:25,690
building and then the property owner's name in charge, the renter, right, water and

1562
02:04:25,690 --> 02:04:30,150
not stuff. Yeah, you know, they want to go and see that a lot too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1563
02:04:30,310 --> 02:04:35,690
And Mark, that's like, you know, Mark, all the property, Mark's properties, like that.

1564
02:04:35,890 --> 02:04:41,350
Yeah. On the problem is, as a landlord, you have to return that deposit within two weeks,

1565
02:04:41,470 --> 02:04:45,830
so that's why they should be calling the state issue. You see that they need to hold back

1566
02:04:47,290 --> 02:04:55,150
And part of this issue is that they moved out like in January and they in April they paid

1567
02:04:55,150 --> 02:05:05,190
off some of the what was old and what they're still remains that 236.99 and this took place

1568
02:05:05,190 --> 02:05:12,170
in April and the landlord is only finding them out about you know a few days ago and so

1569
02:05:12,170 --> 02:05:18,890
So that was also, and in my discussion with Diane today about the same point, you know,

1570
02:05:19,050 --> 02:05:26,710
can we effectively give a landlord a heads up, but this is the problem we have.

1571
02:05:27,170 --> 02:05:29,870
You don't know all the rental problems.

1572
02:05:30,310 --> 02:05:33,710
And she has made that comment.

1573
02:05:34,030 --> 02:05:40,470
She has told landlords that all you need to do is call us and find out where the status

1574
02:05:40,470 --> 02:05:43,450
of the building on a rental property.

1575
02:05:43,930 --> 02:05:50,990
In this particular instance too, and fortunately in a lot of sense, the renters often leave.

1576
02:05:51,850 --> 02:05:54,310
We don't necessarily know they're gone.

1577
02:05:54,470 --> 02:05:55,730
We just know the water should turn out.

1578
02:05:55,850 --> 02:05:59,770
There are people living in houses with water turned off and then they come back in a pit.

1579
02:06:00,150 --> 02:06:00,810
And some don't.

1580
02:06:01,010 --> 02:06:07,250
We have no idea where the landlord is going to know if I would assume any ways that they're

1581
02:06:07,250 --> 02:06:08,190
still in the house.

1582
02:06:08,190 --> 02:06:14,370
And if they're gone, then it would be nice if they would contact us, but we do know when we can't get on top of this chair.

1583
02:06:14,550 --> 02:06:17,850
One other important point is that these are sent to collections.

1584
02:06:18,850 --> 02:06:27,670
The collection agency has instructed that their first individual that they should attempt to collect from is the renter.

1585
02:06:28,490 --> 02:06:30,790
And second would be the property owner.

1586
02:06:31,070 --> 02:06:34,130
So they will attempt to contact the renter for us.

1587
02:06:34,130 --> 02:06:36,750
Yeah, that's a good point to make that clear.

1588
02:06:37,030 --> 02:06:40,670
Yeah, so are these new landlords that don't understand this?

1589
02:06:41,170 --> 02:06:44,730
No, I don't check on that.

1590
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:50,310
I mean, that's your property, that's your business, I don't know.

1591
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:50,750
OK.

1592
02:06:51,210 --> 02:06:51,370
OK.

1593
02:06:52,070 --> 02:06:56,110
It's another example of personal responsibility, I guess.

1594
02:06:56,410 --> 02:06:56,670
OK.

1595
02:06:58,930 --> 02:07:01,030
So what do I see a lot of things?

1596
02:07:01,590 --> 02:07:02,570
I need a motion.

1597
02:07:03,650 --> 02:07:12,210
I need to make motion to send these properties to collections for not being able to send the

1598
02:07:16,490 --> 02:07:21,690
utility overdue bills to the collection agency and that's been seconded by Chad all fair

1599
02:07:21,690 --> 02:07:22,890
So, I'm single from saying nice.

1600
02:07:24,190 --> 02:07:26,290
Oh, they should carry.

1601
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:28,090
Okay.

1602
02:07:28,510 --> 02:07:32,970
Now we have the Sioux Falls humane society.

1603
02:07:33,410 --> 02:07:36,290
The contract for 2021 with the Sioux Falls for Maine society

1604
02:07:36,290 --> 02:07:39,110
is nothing this changed as far as rates or anything of that.

1605
02:07:39,690 --> 02:07:41,370
We appreciate everything.

1606
02:07:41,690 --> 02:07:42,490
Thank you for our community.

1607
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:46,050
They come up here to one of their calls.

1608
02:07:46,430 --> 02:07:50,030
We recommend approval of the 2021 contract.

1609
02:07:51,690 --> 02:07:52,010
to approve.

1610
02:07:52,190 --> 02:07:53,050
Move by the schedule.

1611
02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:53,590
Approved.

1612
02:07:53,590 --> 02:07:54,210
Is there a second?

1613
02:07:54,670 --> 02:07:55,070
Seconded.

1614
02:07:55,310 --> 02:07:56,070
Seconded by Bill.

1615
02:07:56,210 --> 02:07:56,490
All in favor.

1616
02:07:56,710 --> 02:07:57,350
Signed to have a second.

1617
02:07:57,710 --> 02:07:57,910
Aye.

1618
02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:59,190
Opposed.

1619
02:07:59,350 --> 02:07:59,510
Name.

1620
02:07:59,710 --> 02:08:00,310
Motion to carry.

1621
02:08:00,710 --> 02:08:01,870
Nine to pay our bills.

1622
02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:06,030
Some will move by Bob to approve the pay claims payable.

1623
02:08:06,090 --> 02:08:06,750
Is there a second?

1624
02:08:08,130 --> 02:08:08,930
I'll second that.

1625
02:08:09,090 --> 02:08:09,630
Bill seconds.

1626
02:08:09,630 --> 02:08:10,310
It'll all in favor.

1627
02:08:10,490 --> 02:08:11,150
Signed to have a second.

1628
02:08:11,290 --> 02:08:11,450
Aye.

1629
02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:12,790
Opposed.

1630
02:08:13,010 --> 02:08:13,170
Name.

1631
02:08:13,370 --> 02:08:14,030
Motion to carry.

1632
02:08:14,670 --> 02:08:17,690
If they come to Bob, who wants to pay them bill?

1633
02:08:18,390 --> 02:08:19,590
Bob is responsible.

1634
02:08:19,590 --> 02:08:21,790
First of all, responsibility, I don't know.

1635
02:08:22,010 --> 02:08:23,150
We're only going to have a question.

1636
02:08:25,030 --> 02:08:27,290
Administrative finance office in 2004.

1637
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:32,650
Sixth Street, Fifth Street, and Iowa Avenue Project,

1638
02:08:33,210 --> 02:08:35,030
proposed project in 2021.

1639
02:08:36,130 --> 02:08:38,330
We sent letters out to the property owners

1640
02:08:38,330 --> 02:08:40,390
that are going to be included in the project,

1641
02:08:40,570 --> 02:08:44,510
the housing project, provided them with breakdown

1642
02:08:44,510 --> 02:08:46,410
of their assessments, proposed assessment,

1643
02:08:46,410 --> 02:08:56,930
map of the property, etc. We also offered, you can see in the correspondence that we get together and meet given COVID.

1644
02:08:57,350 --> 02:09:05,610
We're not going to be holding a big public meeting like we had up at the Catholic Church meeting room prior to the Southeast Infrastructure Project.

1645
02:09:06,110 --> 02:09:12,290
I think what we did learn with that project, though, is communication with property owners is extremely important.

1646
02:09:12,970 --> 02:09:19,990
So, we've offered, we've got a schedule of times, and we're creating half hour, 45 minute

1647
02:09:19,990 --> 02:09:25,450
time slots for anybody that would like to come, sit down, zoom call, conference call,

1648
02:09:25,810 --> 02:09:29,730
whatever the case is for people that, and how they would like to ask this question.

1649
02:09:29,930 --> 02:09:35,590
So, Lance and I will be meeting with everyone individually and explain the project, how it

1650
02:09:35,590 --> 02:09:41,730
affects their property, the why we're doing it, the assessment process, how that assessment

1651
02:09:41,730 --> 02:09:46,710
process rules out trying to work with them on any little issues they might have on their property,

1652
02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:51,530
we drive ways, et cetera, et cetera, everything that we kind of dealt with on the self-disinfastructure

1653
02:09:51,530 --> 02:09:58,590
project as well. We've had I think five or six property out owners call at this point as it

1654
02:09:58,590 --> 02:10:03,810
and we plan on having meetings with them starting next Monday and then we've got some other date

1655
02:10:03,810 --> 02:10:09,450
set aside too for meeting with these folks. So we'll report on how those meetings went after we'd

1656
02:10:09,450 --> 02:10:15,690
have both meetings. Timeline lines, I think we're looking at February March-ish to do an

1657
02:10:15,690 --> 02:10:24,150
adoption of a resolution of necessity, so we'll send folks out. The notice is on that

1658
02:10:24,150 --> 02:10:32,490
post-public hearing, so we can get that process, questions answered, and attempt to get through

1659
02:10:32,490 --> 02:10:38,090
that process, hopefully successfully, so we can be looking at bidding in this spring on

1660
02:10:38,090 --> 02:10:44,910
the people who contact who want to come in and visit the KY.

1661
02:10:45,690 --> 02:10:46,910
What they want to visit about the sidewalks.

1662
02:10:46,910 --> 02:10:48,990
Yeah, just some design stuff.

1663
02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:52,790
You know, most of them, even though I got one or two, six free properties,

1664
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:57,290
but a lot of those folks, they were at the meetings at the church.

1665
02:10:57,790 --> 02:11:00,230
There's some new people that have moved into houses there.

1666
02:11:00,490 --> 02:11:02,410
So there's some new questions.

1667
02:11:03,070 --> 02:11:05,490
Fifth Street is added onto this project.

1668
02:11:05,490 --> 02:11:10,150
I will have an use out of this project. There's some assessments associated with those streets too.

1669
02:11:10,610 --> 02:11:12,650
So what are we doing with the current bill?

1670
02:11:13,650 --> 02:11:15,270
That's the replacement of the culvert.

1671
02:11:15,710 --> 02:11:16,390
Oh, okay.

1672
02:11:17,570 --> 02:11:17,690
Yeah.

1673
02:11:18,650 --> 02:11:24,710
We're going to be doing that. It's going to disturb, you know, more than half the street.

1674
02:11:25,770 --> 02:11:31,970
So, you know, we're not going to dictate today that we're going to install curb and gutter and sidewalks.

1675
02:11:31,970 --> 02:11:39,710
We want to talk to these folks and find out if that's something that they're in favor of and can you go from there?

1676
02:11:40,290 --> 02:11:46,670
Since we're going to be disturbing that much area, we'd like to see that get cleaned up like all the other neighborhoods and treat them the same.

1677
02:11:50,370 --> 02:11:53,990
And then Iowa Avenue is just that branch from 9th to 10th.

1678
02:11:53,990 --> 02:12:00,790
So we've been, we met with the hospital place already and then there's two other property owners on the other side.

1679
02:12:00,950 --> 02:12:02,270
We've had a conversation.

1680
02:12:02,690 --> 02:12:07,930
All right, old 77 Overlay project.

1681
02:12:09,210 --> 02:12:13,330
The DOT, the city of cemented community access grant.

1682
02:12:13,790 --> 02:12:15,490
There was a list of those rewards.

1683
02:12:16,030 --> 02:12:19,450
There was a lot of interest this year.

1684
02:12:19,450 --> 02:12:25,190
A lot of communities you saw, you could see the requests on that attachment, and there

1685
02:12:25,190 --> 02:12:28,050
were only about four or five that were actually awarded.

1686
02:12:28,530 --> 02:12:29,610
We did not make that list.

1687
02:12:30,090 --> 02:12:32,610
We had applied for the maximum $600,000 grant.

1688
02:12:33,710 --> 02:12:38,250
That $1.8 million, that's all inclusive, I forgot to put that in my notes.

1689
02:12:39,090 --> 02:12:41,150
That's all inclusive of the trail and everything.

1690
02:12:41,650 --> 02:12:46,390
We just went kind of full-gore and threw it all on the plate to see if what the response

1691
02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:46,750
would be.

1692
02:12:46,750 --> 02:12:51,130
We actually scored pretty well, a little bit better than I thought.

1693
02:12:51,290 --> 02:12:55,710
I was honestly not really expecting this grant to be issued to the city.

1694
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:57,890
I didn't think we'd score that great.

1695
02:12:59,510 --> 02:13:03,790
You know, this is a project we budgeted for next year.

1696
02:13:03,990 --> 02:13:11,970
We had put in the budget that we would be receiving some grants from the state on this.

1697
02:13:11,970 --> 02:13:21,370
So I'd like to clarify and sit down and kind of analyze the budget, you know, we just spent not the budget but the reserves.

1698
02:13:22,430 --> 02:13:27,330
The reserve accounts, you know, we just spent down the money to pay off that debt.

1699
02:13:28,650 --> 02:13:39,670
So if we're looking at fully taking reserves out to pay for this overlay project, I want to know what those costs are specifically.

1700
02:13:39,670 --> 02:13:46,250
We've got estimates right now and then bring that to council and talk about whether or

1701
02:13:46,250 --> 02:13:48,710
not we want to pursue doing that overlay.

1702
02:13:50,630 --> 02:13:54,870
The council has had this discussion with our capital improvement plan.

1703
02:13:55,230 --> 02:14:02,830
You have committed using reserve fund dollars to take this project so I know where the council

1704
02:14:02,830 --> 02:14:04,430
stands you want to get this project done.

1705
02:14:04,430 --> 02:14:12,350
I just want to take a look at it with Clarencey, if it's something that isn't going to put us in on the back of it, since you were here.

1706
02:14:13,290 --> 02:14:18,930
Fully have plants moving forward with the design on the project.

1707
02:14:20,270 --> 02:14:24,990
Really anticipate we're going to keep moving forward and do this project this next year.

1708
02:14:25,390 --> 02:14:30,490
This is a pretty quick project. It's not going to be a three-month project or anything.

1709
02:14:30,670 --> 02:14:32,550
It's a few weeks of a project.

1710
02:14:35,550 --> 02:14:40,830
So the only thing would be, you know, let's maybe look at the condition of that street.

1711
02:14:41,190 --> 02:14:44,570
We scored a little bit higher on this grant than I thought we would.

1712
02:14:44,990 --> 02:14:51,690
We hold off next year on its 2022 and apply again.

1713
02:14:51,890 --> 02:14:53,930
And maybe we get successful next time on a second.

1714
02:14:55,410 --> 02:14:56,930
That might be worth considering too.

1715
02:14:57,110 --> 02:14:58,990
So I kind of want to think about that a little bit more.

1716
02:15:00,300 --> 02:15:30,280
And then bring something to council. One other thing mayor asked me to bring up, I didn't write down, was ash trees. The guys have been cutting ash trees down in the area where we had established for cutting ash trees down. Been working with property owners, you know, prior to, you know, there's been a handful of properties that have treated, a handful of properties that plan on treating. So we're working with

1717
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:34,000
with everybody, you know, it's kind of a mass hub

1718
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:35,700
if you haven't driven through these neighborhoods.

1719
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:37,740
We're not, we're not near done yet.

1720
02:15:39,660 --> 02:15:43,040
So we're going to continue doing that at our leisure

1721
02:15:43,040 --> 02:15:44,520
when the guys have an opportunity,

1722
02:15:44,700 --> 02:15:46,660
they're doing two or three days a week right now.

1723
02:15:47,360 --> 02:15:50,500
We've been working with Fegan Tree Service too

1724
02:15:50,500 --> 02:15:52,700
to assist us with some of the large trees

1725
02:15:52,700 --> 02:15:55,040
that we don't have the equipment to handle.

1726
02:15:56,020 --> 02:15:58,120
You know, they're just gonna, they're gonna keep going.

1727
02:15:58,120 --> 02:16:05,920
you know we budgeted 25,000 I think as far as what we can pay you know

1728
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:09,520
somebody better help us out so we're we're keep we're mindful of budget too

1729
02:16:10,220 --> 02:16:15,420
but we want to keep making progress on that so there's a bunch of brush in my

1730
02:16:15,420 --> 02:16:26,780
backyard from the construction okay but they haven't cleaned up yet okay I don't know

1731
02:16:29,660 --> 02:16:33,860
They've got a bunch of branches down there, so I suppose there's equipment through it.

1732
02:16:34,460 --> 02:16:40,760
We'll make sure we're all making sure that's about that.

1733
02:16:40,880 --> 02:16:41,500
I'm still here.

1734
02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:42,060
Okay.

1735
02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:43,360
You got it.

1736
02:16:43,940 --> 02:16:46,840
If I see it, I mean, there's probably more in there.

1737
02:16:48,920 --> 02:16:49,400
Okay.

1738
02:16:49,960 --> 02:16:50,240
So it's good.

1739
02:17:04,820 --> 02:17:09,420
We're going to be out there this week doing some of that stuff, so I'll remind them tomorrow.

1740
02:17:09,700 --> 02:17:09,820
Okay.

1741
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:10,200
Thanks.

1742
02:17:11,260 --> 02:17:11,540
Good to go.

1743
02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:13,980
That's all that.

1744
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:25,780
The only thing, more than night, that's the Chamber's monthly meeting, and I'll probably

1745
02:17:25,780 --> 02:17:34,440
talk a little bit about if the Chamber wants to be more actively involved in educating

1746
02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:43,280
its membership relative to the discussion tonight, et cetera, and to the extent of, if

1747
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:56,420
Whatever we do, we need to generate the verb as your whatever, whatever, whatever, I'll help just in with that, so.

1748
02:18:01,020 --> 02:18:06,540
Thank you to each of you for tonight.

1749
02:18:09,420 --> 02:18:14,900
Obviously, you know, Bill's question about where are the people who said they liked me?

1750
02:18:15,060 --> 02:18:18,540
Well, you know, you've been around as long as I have been.

1751
02:18:18,980 --> 02:18:20,240
They've never show up, right?

1752
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:27,820
It's people who have the, who are more, you know, the people who are four and are going to be home

1753
02:18:27,820 --> 02:18:29,140
because they don't want to sit in here.

1754
02:18:29,300 --> 02:18:29,680
That's right.

1755
02:18:29,860 --> 02:18:30,300
I don't know.

1756
02:18:35,700 --> 02:18:57,760
But it is what it is and you know, I think the bottom line is if people are aware of, you know, we all are all born with a free will and I can say, you know, if you're good, make good decisions and not do stupid things and you know, if you're alive and whatever.

1757
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:01,660
But it's documented we had a community discussion about it.

1758
02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:07,880
You know, it's very similar to getting hammered or just having a conversation.

1759
02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:09,960
You know, I think that's documented.

1760
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:11,520
Yeah, and I think that's important.

1761
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:11,940
Yeah.

1762
02:19:12,060 --> 02:19:16,840
I think we could be looked at otherwise for not having that discussion publicly.

1763
02:19:17,440 --> 02:19:19,800
So, I think it's going to skip the Council to go through that.

1764
02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:30,020
But again, I appreciate that you guys, you know, your attention and you know, listening

1765
02:19:30,020 --> 02:19:34,960
to what people are saying, that's important, you know, this council and I are all here

1766
02:19:34,960 --> 02:19:41,600
has always been to do what's the best interest of our community and obviously safe people

1767
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:49,280
lives is important, but everybody has a different spin on things I guess, so we'll move ahead.

1768
02:19:49,280 --> 02:20:00,760
So anyway, I guess that's all I've got so you walk back in just in time to hear Bob say I make a motion adjourned