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This is a meeting continuation from September 3rd, 2025 till today, September 8th, 2025, and at this time, we're going to go ahead and have the city clerk call the roll please.

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Hold on. Commission of Bill of Ask West.

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Commission of call well. Commission of howington.

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Here. Commission of Santiago. Here. Vice Mayor Harriet.

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May I be able to hear this time I invite Commissioner of Yola Vasquez of District 3 to

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lead us in invocation, the pledge and the honouring of the veterans.

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Thank you Mayor.

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If we can all please bow our heads and do a little prayer, actually a big prayer.

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Thank you everyone.

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I would like to invite anyone in the audience who is a veteran to lead us in the Pleasure of Allegiance.

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to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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One mentioned, on the God, in the visible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Our veterans that were supposed to be recognized today could not make it to the meeting.

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Today, so their commander from the Bikers picked up their certificate on Friday and they were presented to them at their monthly meeting.

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Okay, thank you Commissioner Villabascos and those were Liam Bowman from the United States Army and Caesar Martinez also from the United States Army.

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Right this time we're going to go to these additions and deletions and I believe our city attorney.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor.

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Item nine a ordinance 32-2025.

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the applicant in that matter has requested it be deferred to a date certain of October

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20th. If I could please get a motion and a second from the commission to that effect.

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Commissioner Santhiyago?

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So moved.

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Can you do an actual motion, please?

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I make a motion to, as we want to extend, 9A to the meeting on October 20th.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Commissioner Colwell I second okay if we can as soon as I've had the ready we're gonna go ahead and vote

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Or we can just do a verbal vote make it easier all in favor. I I'll opposed

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All right, thank you. So we're moving nine a's an awful just for clarification

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All right

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Presentations awards and reports

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We got Mr. Baker.

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Parker, sorry.

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We're going to Dalton of Community Events.

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If you can also please go on your mic.

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Okay, we have quite a few events going on this month for the first month.

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First, this Friday night is our monthly bonkers comedy show over at the center.

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As always, tickets are only $8 if you buy them in advance.

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And then this Saturday, the 13th, we're bringing back the the festivals of nations with the Hispanic Chamber.

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That's going to be here at City Hall outside in the courtyard.

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There is going to be cultural performances, cultural food.

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We used to do this, but kind of faded away after during COVID.

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And so we're bringing it back bigger and better than ever.

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11 a.m. to 5 p.m. Also on Saturday night is our amphitheater

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concerts series so you can have some music in the in the daytime and they go

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over to the amphitheater for a blues band at night 7 p.m. free event

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Frank Bang and the TNT horns. And then next Friday night the 19th we are having our

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movie in the park. We're showing Twisters. That's the 2024 version of the movie.

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We were supposed to show it last month but it was rained out so we're bringing it back this month.

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It's over at Campbell Park, as always, it's a free event, and there's free popcorn and

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lemonade as well while supplies last.

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And then on the 20th, we have our yearly storm drain markup event.

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So we're looking for volunteers, if you'd like to volunteer.

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You can reach out to Sonia Clay in the Public Works Department.

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It's 8 a.m., they're going to meet in the Deltono Plaza, there on Deltono Boulevard.

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And then also on the 20th, this is a Vema event.

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They did it last year, they're doing it again this year.

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It's a car and bike show.

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And it's to bring awareness to veterans suffering from PTSD.

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So this is, like I said, on the 20th of Saturday,

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also at Deltona Boulevard at the Deltona Plaza,

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11 a.m. to 5 p.m.

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And there's a lot going on that day because it's also the day of the

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Hispanic Association is putting on this event and this is always buried.

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Every popular, huge event, live music, food vendors, drink vendors. This event is a ton of fun. And as always, if anybody has any events that they would like to share with community, let me know, see Barker at deltonaethel.gov.

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Thank you, Ms. Barker. At this time, we're going to go to section 7A. If I can please have the city attorney read section 7A please.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor.

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So I'll be reading into the record, both item 7A, which is resolution number 2025-121, a resolution

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of the City Commission of the City of Delton of Florida, establishing a proposed operating

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military of AdVlorum taxation.

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For the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2025, and ending September 30, 2026, providing

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for Scribner's airs and an effective date, as well as the agenda item 47D, which is

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resolution number 2025-122, a resolution of the City Commission of the City of Daytona

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Florida adopting the tentative budget for each of several funds and departments of the city,

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for the fiscal year beginning October 125, and ending September 30, 2020-26,

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approving the tentative capital improvement plan, providing for appropriation and procedures,

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providing for scrubbers, airs, and providing for an effective date.

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So, procedurally, you may have a collective discussion on both the milledrate and the budget,

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but you will need to take a separate vote on each at the end.

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Thank you.

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At this time, before moving forward, I'll entertain a motion and a second so we can enter into

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discussion.

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Vice Mayor Harriet?

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I'd like to make a motion to request a request approval, a resolution number.

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or 2025-121 adopting the tentative millage for fiscal year 2025-26 with one change that the

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the millage rate be 6.75, which is 0.05 higher than what is presented to us.

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Just a point of clarification.

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It's on there for 6.75 correct?

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It's a real one.

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Then what's

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the...

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That's your old...

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Then...

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I'll send you with my motion.

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Let's see, point some thought.

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Commissioner Santiago?

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Second.

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At this time, we'll listen to public comment

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and because both items, even though we have to vote on them separately,

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we'll do...

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Yes.

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Sorry, if I made Mr. Mayor,

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the motion needs to be read as 6.75 per 1,000 just per a state statute.

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Hold on, go ahead and click on your mic.

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Do we have the,

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I make a motion to approve resolution number 2025-121 adopting the city of

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on a fiscal year 2025, 2026, tentative millage rate of 6.75 mills per $1,000

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of valuation.

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If you're generous enough to tell you, you're still going with your second.

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Quite a new cross-parallel, please.

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And you can leave your mic on if you'd like to sit in the clerk.

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Ms. Courtney Crossburgos, when you get on, just click on the mic so I can turn it on.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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Good evening.

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I'm concerned about the 6.75, the last, it was up 4.6.7 and Mr. Harry, it did bring it up at the budget workshop, wanting to raise it for clearing out the legs and things, but it was never a consensus, it was never a boat because it was a workshop.

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So, I understand doc changed it, but I don't understand why when that's not even been

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discussed early or voted on, and again,

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we haven't gotten much input for these budget

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workshops or meetings because nobody seems to care this year but it's extremely

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frustrating. I did find to get a detailed line item so Joyce doesn't have to

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do the PRR because I still didn't get that but I did find it and there's a lot of

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ass in there that are definitely wants not need and before you approve it tonight I

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I think you guys really need to look at that.

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There's a lot of money we could cut,

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which then maybe we could take the village back down a little bit.

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I don't know, but I can tell you personally,

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your guys are pricing me out of Deltona.

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I can't afford to live here anymore.

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So, you know, I hope you take it seriously,

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forget the mayor's trip, forget the moratorium,

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forget the SB 180, concentrate on our budget.

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This is what counts to us.

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The other stuff is important, but this is important now, and it has to be done by October, so we need you to really take a close look at all these asks that are in there.

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Remember, it's your money too, and I think everybody here is having a hard time this year.

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Anyway, I would like an explanation why it went to 6.75 without any discussion, please.

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Thank you.

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David Salsa, please?

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David Salsa.

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All right.

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I'm opposed to the 6.75.

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I believe we do have to go back to the rollback rate.

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We've been promised rollback rate for three years now.

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And we've yet to see it.

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Now, if I've gotten all this information,

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it's for all the taxes for each municipality.

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There's 18 municipalities in Volusia County, including the county.

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And guess who's in the top three for the highest tax bracket?

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City of Deltona, we're in the top three highest tax bracket, okay?

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Now that's just an advalorant taxes.

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When we come to storm water from the research I've done, we're the highest.

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And that's without you guys increasing it another 11 to 12 percent this year.

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And what have we seen through those increases from last year?

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Last year you had probably the highest increased I've ever seen.

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And then this year, you kind of kind of circumvented it the process of notifying the residents that you're going up by undercutting the amounts to where you didn't have to notify them.

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I thought that was kind of despicable, but that's just me.

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Now folks are already having a hard time.

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We'll probably have a presentation we'll say taxes aren't going up that much, but in reality they are.

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You'll probably have somebody cherry-pick three or four different examples, maybe mine, for instance,

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where I'm only going to see a hundred dollar increase.

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But across the board, I know I have a friend that called me over the other day to explain why this is going up over $1100.

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And I'm sure there's a lot of folks in the same boat where their taxes are going up over $1,000.

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Me, I've been here for 25 years. I'm home-stated. I've got to save your homes.

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I'm going to get killed on your stormwater assessments and your trash fees, because those

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are going up.

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Now, one other thing, you have it advertised here as a 3% increase, but when I do the numbers,

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2425 actual was 33,799,900.

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Your projected increase this year is up to 36,369,252 dollars.

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When you divide that, guess what you get, 7%, not 3%, so we're not doing to 3% increase.

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We're doing a 7% increase over the last years.

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Now we've got a lot of folks. They're already deciding.

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Do I eat today? Do I buy my prescriptions? We have a lot of folks here that are retired.

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Third, tick sting comes, we have younger families coming up, are we going to displace them

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out of Deltona?

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I already know so many people moving.

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You can drive down any street, I guess what you see on any street nowadays, for sale signs.

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Don't tax people out of their houses.

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Thank you.

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Elbe Bryant, please.

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Elbe Bryant, Eltona.

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You know, I've been saying this podium for 10 years doing this, and I can honestly say that

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I've yet to see a full rollback in 10 years.

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I've been promised for the last five years that we had seen it haven't seen it yet, but

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this is the first year I can honestly say that if I took $4 million just out of parks and

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I could go to full rollback plus full rollback plus but

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we're worried about

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beautifying the parks rather than fixing stormwater. We're worried about

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beautifying our parks rather than fixing the streets. We're worried about

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fixing our parks that really don't need to be fixed. It seems like we spent

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14 million dollars in the last three years on parks. That's a lot of money.

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What have we gotten for the grass in a little bit greener?

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But that's about it.

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But if you really truly take and dig into the budget, when you see a 8,000 percent increase,

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just in one item, that's the reason why we can't take and go to full rollback.

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When you see a 200 percent increase in idols, 500 percent, 600 percent, 350 percent.

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When we see the commissioners are paying attention, when we stand up here and talk, that's

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the reason why this is going up.

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Because they're not paying attention to us at all.

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Period.

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We're not doing that.

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We're not doing that.

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I'm talking.

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I know you're doing that.

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I'm talking.

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Don't.

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We have a real issue here.

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We really do.

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You all need to pay attention once in that budget book.

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I mean, what's really in that budget book?

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I've done this budget for over 10 years now.

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And this is the worst fluff I have ever seen.

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The worst that I've ever seen in this budget.

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And I've been doing this 10 years.

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I live through Mr. Cooper.

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I live through Jane Shying.

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They'll always put fluff in it, always.

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So she could move the stuff around, but this one, this one takes a take.

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I've seen more fluffiness than any loss that ever allowed.

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Now, if y'all were smart, if y'all were really smart, you would demand,

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and I mean demand that the audit comes sooner than later,

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and it includes this budget.

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Because I think you would find that there's a hoax that's being pulled over your eyes.

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And at the end of the day, what do we all want?

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We want to best for these people.

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That's what we all want.

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And I haven't seen it yet.

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In any budget I've looked at over the last 10 years.

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I have yet to see it.

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I've gotten better for our services.

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I've gotten better police services.

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My parks are immaculate.

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We don't need to spend $8 million in parks.

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I understand you have to pay for impact these and put those out, or I understand that.

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But that's probably $1 million.

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I should be enough to cover anything you want to put into parts this year.

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We have a duty, or you have a duty to do the right thing.

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You should be a 5.75 this year, not 6.7.

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Thank you, Brandy White, please.

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A lot of good points that we're already touched on, so I'm just going to go through a couple

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solutions instead because nobody wants to hear about how we've been

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jacked again. First, I'd like to address why wasn't this a zero-based

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budget that not only was requested, but stated would occur. And I brought

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an extra backbone because some of you guys have lost yours and lost your

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minds to think that this is okay to not have any type of repercussions for

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subordination like that. But moving on, there is a general fund transfer that includes 4.25

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million I believe it was for part projects. I believe to create some transparency here I'm

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going to give you guys some suggestions. For that, specifically we need a project level ledger with

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milestones.

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The general fund interest nearly doubled, so debt services need some explaining and tied to specific

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projects to fix that. We need to know which projects increase interest and what's the plan

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to stabilize that. I also have a question about a $75,000 charge for the ordinance review committee.

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I asked about that before in an email and nobody responded to that, so I'm assuming it's one of those emails that never occurred.

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For some practical oversight on the two big spending things that we have like litigation in the audit,

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we need scopes, timelines,

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and preferably the cost along the way to keep with transparency and all.

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For the center, once again, we're seeing a huge loss of over 500,000.

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So I'm wondering why haven't we already implemented quarterly P&L, and for those who don't understand that, it's a profit and loss.

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Right, so revenues by event-type,

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utilizing what your target goal,

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and ways that we're going to close that gap

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because it only seems to continue.

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We've yet to see any type of profit from this place.

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Also regarding transparency, things like transfers

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in capital, we need start and finish dates,

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along with the grant match requirements.

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I'd also like to invite each and every one of you

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to come with me on your own time,

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at any point and meet an older lady that I help name Patricia.

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She's going to be 85 years old this year and she's on a fixed income.

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Guess who's not going to be afford this increase?

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She can't even afford to do the repairs on her home that's falling apart.

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Her income to debt ratio is so small and at 85 years old and visually impaired, there's

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no way to bring in more money.

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You guys realize this, right?

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There's actually people out here that have no way to bring in more income.

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And I invite you to meet her because she's not going to be here much longer if you continue to do this.

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There is so much, and that's already been said, fluff in this budget.

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I can't believe none of you all are even talking about cuts.

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Like, oh, I reviewed it. Here's what we can do.

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Oh, here's the way we can make it more transparent.

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We're going to provide these things for you guys.

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None of that.

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And I watched back at all the meetings I didn't go to.

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I haven't just walked away.

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I just don't waste my time here because it's pointless.

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Thank you.

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Gayle Bar please.

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I'm sure most of you know who my name, my name is Gayle Bar.

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But I'm not here to talk about the last meeting that I spoke that nobody was up there.

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I'm not here to speak about that tonight.

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But you haven't heard the end of that one, but I am here to speak about tonight, is an item that should be in the budget under the garbage.

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I was wondering if we could have at least one dumpster or more dumpsters to put in big TV boxes, computer boxes, so that we don't put those boxes in front of our houses,

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and let everybody know we bought an 85 inch TV or a new computer come in and get it.

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Those boxes are recyclable. A lot of things from Amazon, we all get boxes. I get almost

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every day something from Amazon, and I'm sure all of you do too. I have a list of things

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that are recyclable from Amazon that we could probably put in a dumpster for the recyclables.

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I know we don't recycle, and I've heard the reason why, but I still feel very strongly

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if the city cares about the future, that we do something with these cardboard boxes and

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bubble-lined plastic bags and the packing paper that comes in, I get boxes for a little

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thing, a big box and a lot of paper in there.

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Well, we don't have to throw it in the garbage if we have something more reliable to put into

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to save the planet. And that is my point. And I am not here to talk about how there was

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nobody up there when I spoke to the chair at the last morning. I am not here to

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talk

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about that

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I think we need the full rollback.

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We really do finding that the overall total budget has doubled.

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I think that's absolutely insane.

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Line items, city commissioner, line items, such as travel,

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promo, overtime, et cetera.

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They should be no more than 5%, 10%.

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Why are we scamming the citizens for 32% and up?

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It's excessive.

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You need to do better.

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You need to cut things so that it's not.

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over any above a normal percentage, about 240% increase in the

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city manager travel budget. Let's drop that down to maybe 20% instead.

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Shame on you. What is that for? The most armored cars, 30, 4 trips, like what? So how

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about a city clerk recognition, $17775, that's more than triple also, communications department.

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Why has professional services, and over time, gone up over 200%, same for recognitions,

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shame on you, this is out of control spending.

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Code compliance, recognitions, firemen, fire ops, that's tripled, this disgusting, disgusting.

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None of these are acceptable, they're all excessive, do better, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Pat Blodget, please.

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Most commissioners, factility commissioners, I like, but they don't like what you're doing to us.

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City must think that the residents are stupid.

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Originally, the City Manager promised to zero balanced last year's budget this year.

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What happened?

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This was of course, by the commissioners last year.

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And if we have doge audit, it will save us $500,000.

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I emailed all of you questions that I had on the budget last Monday.

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As of now, I haven't gotten one answer.

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Do you not get your e-mails? Do you not respond to the people?

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Recognitions. She was just talking about recognitions. They went from 67,600 to 165,759.

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What are you doing? What are you giving these people?

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Also, please explain to us under the budget for city commission or what other charges are.

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It goes from 620,000 to 6,089.

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six thousand wait six million eighty nine thousand five hundred and fifty one. What is it?

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Also special pay. What is that? You know you have a lot of things in the budget that you're

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just not explaining to us and you just want to accept this. It's not acceptable. We live on a fixed income

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and a lot of us do and we just can't afford all this fluff and I don't know maybe you can but we can't.

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But thank you.

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Elba Bryant,

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please.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Here.

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One for each item.

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Kathy Bryant, please.

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Yes, are we doing them together, right?

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Of A and B.

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Kathy Bryant, Eltona.

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Budget wise.

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You know, there was some discussion at the workshop about moving money from parks and

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really needed. And it was argued that, well, no, these parks and wrecks need to be cleaned

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up this at any other. And the transparency that comes about is pitiful. So you've got extra

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weeds in the lake. Why do you think that is? Is it from fertilizer? Etc. I asked a while about,

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I go about educating the public on wind to fertilize wind to water. That's a contributing factor

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that we could control or try to control.

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Supposedly we've got plenty of money in the stormwater budget,

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but we can't shift anything around for the stuff

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that we really, really need.

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And then there's the transparency.

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The lack thereof where we've asked before for things

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like give us a list of the projects you're working on.

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When they're complete, I just recently asked one

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went out at the gardens. The other lady there was at the gardens, Marcie recently, had

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it as a usher one. We have no idea that it's done or why things are being done. So when

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people come up here and gripe because you're not explaining, you're not being transparent.

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Maybe if you work better with people on where the money is going and how it's being used,

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even into the budget season once you're using that, maybe that would help with public relations

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a little bit,

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but you guys see more focused on piddly stuff rather than worrying about your

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citizens and how we feel about the budget, et cetera. And I'm going to say I'm going to

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agree with Katherine Gallagher, you all need to do a better job because you're not representing

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your citizens. Thank you. Thank you. Tim Blogit, please.

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Good evening.

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Okay. Deltona has roughly a population of seniors about 17.6%. This year,

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I am going to be grazed with a cost-living increase of 2.7%. That's going to pay for you

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my tax bill that I got on my, on my little notification. I don't know where you guys get

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this 3% but it ain't happening. Okay, so I was blessed with two sons that are computer

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wages. One works for Schwab. Any other one works for Apple. And just for grins and giggles

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it dinner the other night, they decided to run a free software program which I will give you

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Commissioner Howington. And I was able to look up, ask it a question about Deltonham,

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and it's zeroed in on everything that you guys are doing wrong. Some of them that I know about

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and it's justified. So, that was a justified. And it asked questions like, okay, if we're paying

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millions and millions and millions of dollars to the to the Sheriff's Office. Why are we paying

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them an additional $90,900,000 for serving papers? Isn't that part of their duties?

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I mean, what did they do with the rest of their millions? Everybody else has given all sorts of

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examples, so I'm not going to go over that again.

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You're pushing us out.

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I was just kind of wondering, why it is you hate the seniors?

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I don't understand it.

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We, I mean, are you not aware that we're on fixed incomes?

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Are you not aware that we're only going to get the color that comes out from the government,

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not whatever other financial indicators that you follow

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for however you came up with this stuff?

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So, I'm getting 2.2.6%, I was looking at the whole budget, I was looking at all of the perks

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that the employees get, they get 100% medical care, wow, nobody has gotten that since the 80s.

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Um, they get, uh, there's all sorts of, uh, pay them for this, pay them for that.

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Um, I mean, it seems like if you wipe your butt around here, you're going to get an award for it.

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Personally, I used to reward my employees after they did something not the year before in the budget.

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That was coming up.

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Oh,

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I don't know, it doesn't look like a deletona budget.

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It looks like it's a fluff budget from Lake Mary.

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And we all live in Lake Mary.

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Everybody keeps talking about, oh, well, we're a big city.

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We got to do this, we got to do that.

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Do we have a homeless shelter?

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No.

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No, we give donations to a Daytona and then they take care of it.

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Do we have a women shelter?

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Nope. We give a bunch money out and somebody else takes care of it. Do we have a food bank?

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No, we let the church take care of that. Do we produce stuff for the handicapped and braille?

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No, we don't seem to do that either.

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I don't know anything else to say other than folks, you're fired.

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Thank you, sir. Matt Burgens.

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I'm Matt from Deltona. Keep this very short. Most people have come up here

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to talk about very small examples. Our very large examples have gone through everything. We contract a lot of our IT stuff.

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I've talked a lot a lot of times. I'm security IT. We contracted out, but yet we have a very large budget of small tools for IT, not sure what that's about.

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So if we're contracting it out, that we do a lot of contract with law enforcement, but we pay for their equipment, not sure why I don't bring their own equipment if we're contracting it out.

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So that's one of my concerns.

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My biggest reason for coming up here speaking is actually with you mayor.

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You spoke to me and told me that you're going to do a full rollback next year.

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If we're going to do it next year, why can't we do it this year?

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That has me concerned.

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That's my biggest reason.

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That kind of hurt me is if we can do it next year, why not this year?

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That hurt.

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As being the Delta on a person, I worked with everybody on this both sides here.

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I don't think there's one side versus the other side.

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I worked with almost everybody up there on the board.

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I worked with you mayor.

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I worked with vice mayor.

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I worked with the door.

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I worked almost everybody on there.

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You know, I see that we helped the veterans.

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We worked with the American Legion.

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Not very much the VFW.

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But I worked with everybody up there.

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I think everybody wants to try to make Delta on a better.

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But when I heard that comment, that hurt me very much in my heart.

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I've been in Deltona since I graduated at Pine Ridge.

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And so 20 years, 25 years, and that hurt me.

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So that if we can't do a full world like this year,

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then we shouldn't be able to do it next year either.

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So what's the difference?

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So I really urge you to really look at it if we can't do it this year,

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than what's the difference of next year.

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And that's all I gotta say.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Taylor Neeler, please.

454
00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:52,790
How you guys doing today?

455
00:47:54,070 --> 00:47:54,390
Good.

456
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:56,450
Out of word back.

457
00:47:57,810 --> 00:47:59,990
I lived in Deltono, since 1997,

458
00:48:00,970 --> 00:48:05,050
and it has slowly been getting very hard for me and my family.

459
00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:09,310
I brought my kids up here today to show you guys

460
00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:11,590
what you're pushing out.

461
00:48:11,590 --> 00:48:20,310
Okay, my family's lived here longer than 97, but I look born in 97, so I'm gonna keep it short and sweet

462
00:48:21,630 --> 00:48:28,010
I'll not really political. This isn't my thing, but I'm just showing you I'm showing face just so you guys show

463
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:31,470
This is what this is what you guys are doing

464
00:48:34,110 --> 00:48:35,070
Thank you

465
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:38,010
Mayor that ends public comments

466
00:48:39,770 --> 00:48:43,310
Mr. McKinney, and then we'll go to Commissioner Comments.

467
00:48:46,780 --> 00:48:48,660
Mayor, Commissioner Nary on this evening.

468
00:48:53,050 --> 00:48:54,630
Sorry, Mayor, Commissioner McKinney.

469
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:06,500
I'd like to start first with a short presentation that summarizes the budget for the proposed budget for fiscal year 2526.

470
00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:11,480
Can you hear me now?

471
00:49:13,540 --> 00:49:16,940
Mr. McKinney, just put the mic closer to you. We need to stop with the old first place.

472
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:24,640
Use that other microphone.

473
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,680
Click on it, please, and I'll turn it on.

474
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,980
Right now.

475
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,340
Sorry, Mayor. I use the mic. I was provided. That's better.

476
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:42,890
The fiscal year 2025-2026

477
00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:54,610
budget overview. The Citywide Total Operating Budget is $245,683,379. That takes into account all the grants that

478
00:49:54,610 --> 00:50:02,630
we've received, whether it was for Catalina and El Campbell of Ard, the DEP grant for the enhancements

479
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:05,830
with sewer, et cetera, so this is your all-in budget.

480
00:50:06,590 --> 00:50:12,950
Your general fund budget is set at $77,197,638.

481
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:16,710
We are balanced at 6.75.

482
00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:21,430
In next year's budget, we have investments in capital of

483
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:25,650
77.9 million for capital improvement projects

484
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:29,190
and 8.5 million in capital outlay.

485
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:39,520
Here's a snapshot of your overall budget, the sources of funding, the transfers in, transfers

486
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:47,100
out, the anticipated debt proceeds if required, and their uses by personnel services,

487
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:53,300
operating expenditures, capital outlay, and debt service, and then the transfers out.

488
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,960
As we went through the budget process this year, we talked about the fact that we needed

489
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:01,260
to do several things.

490
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:05,380
We had to start with a zero-based budget.

491
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,180
The definition of zero-based budget is it requires every expense to be justified for each

492
00:51:14,180 --> 00:51:16,360
period starting from a zero-based.

493
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:23,380
Every department met with a city manager, the deputy city manager, and myself, along with

494
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:29,620
Keong and Tori, and they had to go line by line of everything that increased or decreased.

495
00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:39,800
majority of the items that increased was either by policy related to personal policies and procedures or

496
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,480
it had to do with items that were commodities that have gotten more expensive.

497
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,220
Galena Gass is more today than it was five years ago.

498
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,340
The cost of insurance we would say keep going up.

499
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,600
But in this case we went back during the budget process and we put out an insurance bed.

500
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:02,840
that item will be coming to you for approval of the first meeting in October that went down.

501
00:52:03,740 --> 00:52:08,020
So we've also took steps, it was brought up about the assessments.

502
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,980
We brought to the commission the fact that it cost well over $30,000 a year to send out the mailings.

503
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:20,520
So we brought a cost measure that's compliant with state statute that allows us to put it as part of the trim notice.

504
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:27,500
So, your departments, finance staff, have all looked at all the various items that could be reduced.

505
00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:33,800
The other things that we, you know, go through this year in a minute,

506
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:38,680
but we had to create the new funds. We also wanted to be very transparent.

507
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:43,280
There's a lot of comments that were made regarding the fleet cost went up.

508
00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:48,480
Since this year, fleet was born by the general fund almost entirely.

509
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,940
by creating an internal revenue service fund to track it now every department, whether you're

510
00:52:55,580 --> 00:53:02,220
in Delta in a water, storm water, general fund building inspections, everyone has to pay

511
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:05,140
their fair equitable share based on their actual vehicle.

512
00:53:05,780 --> 00:53:08,360
It's no more boring just in the general fund.

513
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:15,720
We took other steps to make sure that we were transparent where the city manager had three

514
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,480
separate divisions all lumped into one.

515
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,040
So going forward, it would be very clear to see exactly

516
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,780
what the city manager's budget versus communication

517
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,120
versus economic development, et cetera.

518
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,440
So yes, it looks odd this year, but going into next year,

519
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,440
it's very clear.

520
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,940
We were also, because we're looking at the fire assessment

521
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:40,920
fee, is we were required in talking

522
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,720
to beneath the consultant that's working on that.

523
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:52,300
we have to be very clear on what far admin versus operations versus transport. It will only make it easier

524
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:58,800
as we move forward through this process. So everything that we've done, I know it looks like a big hit

525
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:04,840
in change. I have it in detail and I've made sure since February 3rd everything can be found on

526
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:10,320
anything and everything that the finance department has put out there. It's 100% available to anyone

527
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,980
and everyone within Delta at any time.

528
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,560
So I just want to just hone in on, then as a result, with everything that we've

529
00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:27,740
apologize, with everything that we've done, we've also been able to show a declining

530
00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:30,120
milledrate over the last few years.

531
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:33,600
This is from staff tightening the belts.

532
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,860
This is from us completing projects that have come off.

533
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,280
This is for us being more when we go to look at a vehicle.

534
00:54:42,340 --> 00:54:44,800
I know we've looked at F-150s in the past.

535
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,400
We've been able to put people in Mavericks or other smaller vehicles

536
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,280
that has savings done only on the acquisition costs,

537
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:54,700
but also on the cost of operations.

538
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,640
So we've made everyone justify if someone for next year's budget

539
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,320
had requested an F-150 or an Explorer.

540
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:07,220
They had to first justify why they needed a vehicle of that size.

541
00:55:08,060 --> 00:55:09,860
We also have do this Thursday.

542
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:15,960
We put a quote out for every white fleet, which is a plain F-150,

543
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,100
Maverick, et cetera.

544
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:20,520
It went out to all three four dealerships here in the county.

545
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,220
Molinax, Gary Omen's, and the one in Delay and I apologize.

546
00:55:24,460 --> 00:55:25,240
I don't know the name.

547
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:30,440
So we've gone above and beyond to make sure that we are complying

548
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,420
applying with the directives provided by commission.

549
00:55:34,220 --> 00:55:38,000
In all of that, we have still been able to reduce the millage

550
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,260
over the original 6.95 that you voted on for maximum millage.

551
00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:48,780
By state statute, when we're talking about the 3.06,

552
00:55:49,340 --> 00:55:51,240
that's to increase over rollback.

553
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,380
The rollback is 6.5494.

554
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:58,660
So with recommended millages evening at 6.75,

555
00:55:59,780 --> 00:56:05,800
that's 3.06 over rollback. When you voted for maximum

556
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:14,180
mileage at 6.95, getting my calculator here, mayor, if you take 6.95 divided

557
00:56:14,180 --> 00:56:20,960
by the rollback at no time where we ever more than 6.11% as a potential

558
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:27,900
increase over last year, but that is always based on rollback. All the math, all the

559
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:31,740
percentages are always based of the number over rollback.

560
00:56:35,620 --> 00:56:46,180
Your general fund mayor, we went through it line by line. Here is the adopted 2425 budget,

561
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:51,020
versus the proposed 2526 proposed budget.

562
00:56:54,570 --> 00:56:56,970
I just want to point out just on a couple of items

563
00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:59,570
on your commission budget.

564
00:57:04,330 --> 00:57:06,970
I'd welcome the opportunity to meet with the public.

565
00:57:06,970 --> 00:57:13,210
I've answered several emails that I've received over the last few months.

566
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:17,270
Mayor, there's nothing over a million dollars in your budget.

567
00:57:18,130 --> 00:57:24,530
You have a million dollars set aside for litigation and 343,000 for economic development

568
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:28,570
other initiatives that was the AHAC.

569
00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:36,950
But then we move that per your directive to the non-departmental in the same line that we

570
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:40,290
I'm put the Amazon tax rebate.

571
00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:44,330
So again, I would welcome any meeting with any member

572
00:57:44,330 --> 00:57:46,870
of the public to go over the line item details

573
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:48,730
that was stated this evening.

574
00:57:54,220 --> 00:57:57,900
The ordinance review, a 75,000 that was done earlier

575
00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:01,440
during the workshop process where we were asked

576
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,780
by consensus to put money aside,

577
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,740
the fraud and compliance audit bid.

578
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,580
That money is set aside.

579
00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:11,420
We've discussed on several meetings

580
00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:19,700
what the cost was. We put the $500,000 in the budget for that. The bids we put out. We

581
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:25,240
mentioned, and I mentioned several meetings regarding the scope of service. I've not received

582
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:31,260
anything from the commission mayor for many one on that, but we did go out there and look at other

583
00:58:31,260 --> 00:58:37,560
bids that were put out there. Use that scope because it's pretty similar to here in Deltona.

584
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:47,600
Those beds are due on October the 13th, so we do have currently out on the street a bed for the fraud and compliance audit.

585
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,920
Yes, sir.

586
00:58:55,260 --> 00:59:00,020
So one of the biggest items on our budget is our public safety.

587
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:08,880
Our public safety here within Deltona is our police, which is contracted with a sheriff's office, fire and code enforcement.

588
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:18,620
that's 57 percent of our budget. From this year to last year, it increased $1.9 million.

589
00:59:19,580 --> 00:59:24,820
And we'll talk more about that in a second. Another thing that was asked was regarding

590
00:59:24,820 --> 00:59:31,000
the project review monthly. Going into next fiscal year, the three of us here plus another

591
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:37,980
member of the finance staff have put together an entire project monthly report that will give you the

592
00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:42,960
answers to the City Manager that was actually spoken by the individual earlier. I'd be

593
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,040
more than happy to share that. These are all things that are in the works that we've been

594
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:52,560
working on with Doc and the Deputy City Manager so that we can go into the next fiscal year

595
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:59,980
being transparent. We already put a monthly financial report as I promised to you every month by the

596
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,960
I was a day late last month, I apologize, but ever since we started doing that in March, we've been posting those monthly financials out on the city website.

597
01:00:13,590 --> 01:00:21,170
I just want to point out here, Mayor, that if I was to remove the transfers out, which is

598
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:35,760
for the bottom line, which is basically general government, if we were to remove all the transfers out that funds CIP, the capital outlay,

599
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,340
and the other items that don't belong in any one department.

600
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:50,050
Then our budget would have only increased by $2.2 million or $4.03% over the prior year.

601
01:00:52,790 --> 01:01:00,630
From May 3rd to current, we've been provided with nine major items that has a huge budgetary impact to the city budget.

602
01:01:04,220 --> 01:01:11,000
We were required to put aside money for a hack, and I brought three examples on how to fund that back in May.

603
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,960
So, that's $343,000 in next year's budget.

604
01:01:15,980 --> 01:01:19,040
At the last workshop August 25th,

605
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,960
by consensus of everyone,

606
01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:23,260
of the commission that was at the meeting,

607
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,660
they voted to raise it for us to put the budget together

608
01:01:27,660 --> 01:01:30,420
from 6.7 to 6.75,

609
01:01:31,020 --> 01:01:33,600
which is $269,000 difference,

610
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:36,200
and that's for the seed money to start

611
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,380
and enhance level of storm water, lake remediation,

612
01:01:39,380 --> 01:01:43,620
similar to what we do at Lake McGariety, that is a special assessment.

613
01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:50,180
We were also asked to set aside for future debt reduction that the General Fund's responsible

614
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:54,680
for, which is the center of $33,000.

615
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:01,220
Half a million dollars for the fraud and compliance audit,

616
01:02:03,460 --> 01:02:05,900
and I did provide a copy for each

617
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:13,780
all this evening. Here's the historical last year 10 years of audit comments. So with the changes

618
01:02:13,780 --> 01:02:19,060
and leadership, whether at the city manager level, finance level or whatnot, which does typically

619
01:02:19,060 --> 01:02:26,200
require a higher risk for your auditors. We've had about the cleanest 10 year history you could

620
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,260
possibly have in any government of this size.

621
01:02:32,590 --> 01:02:35,910
This budget has an additional million dollars of litigation.

622
01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:43,990
Then we have quite a few outstanding litigations out there that based on the estimated cost

623
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:49,750
from your attorneys that were required to put that money aside because it's deemed

624
01:02:51,050 --> 01:02:52,490
going to come to fruition.

625
01:02:55,310 --> 01:03:02,190
Since July workshop, the city manager has been provided consensus to add to additional

626
01:03:02,190 --> 01:03:11,510
code compliance officers. That cost is $150,000. And we also will be required to outfet them

627
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:20,390
with two vehicles. Those vehicles do not have the animal control boxes on the back. We budgeted

628
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:28,190
$72,000. But again, that's one of the items that we believe doesn't warrant a full size F-150.

629
01:03:28,190 --> 01:03:34,150
So we're looking at Mavericks, and that's going to come in probably around $60,000 fully

630
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:34,650
outfitted.

631
01:03:35,170 --> 01:03:41,930
Again, as I said previously, we have Bids coming back this Thursday, or quotes, so we're

632
01:03:41,930 --> 01:03:43,290
going to confirm that.

633
01:03:44,050 --> 01:03:48,150
So all these nine items are a little over 4.3 million.

634
01:03:58,090 --> 01:04:03,990
One of the other things I apologize, I missed two items, you also gave us for the budget,

635
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:06,730
the allowance to add six additional firefighters.

636
01:04:07,630 --> 01:04:17,650
We're only budgeting 75% of them because we're not looking to hire them till January of next year for the enhanced level of transport services within the city.

637
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:22,930
That's going to have a total cost for next year of $534,000.

638
01:04:23,710 --> 01:04:33,970
In addition to that, we recently back in June applied for a safer grant that we're hoping to fund that over a three-year period.

639
01:04:33,970 --> 01:04:40,810
So we put the money for the grant in next year's budget to help fund that and then finally

640
01:04:40,810 --> 01:04:47,030
on this page, as stated, the Sheriff's Department, we contract with them for our police

641
01:04:47,030 --> 01:04:47,690
services.

642
01:04:48,570 --> 01:04:51,430
Their increase was 1.15 million.

643
01:04:51,870 --> 01:04:57,550
If you go back and look at what was done by the committee at the county level, we were

644
01:04:57,550 --> 01:05:01,390
looking to see an increase upwards of over $20 million.

645
01:05:01,390 --> 01:05:04,970
So, the sheriff came in based on the law enforcement

646
01:05:04,970 --> 01:05:07,170
milling sets out there.

647
01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:10,830
It's only increased it to the little over 15 million

648
01:05:10,830 --> 01:05:12,550
or 1.1 million dollars.

649
01:05:13,150 --> 01:05:17,290
So, these are all items that we either are contractually required to

650
01:05:17,290 --> 01:05:21,210
or during the budget process, we got consensus to move forward

651
01:05:21,210 --> 01:05:24,090
in putting this budget as presented this evening.

652
01:05:26,810 --> 01:05:28,870
We have also looked at reductions.

653
01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:37,510
There were 12 open positions that had been open for the entire fiscal year of 24, 25.

654
01:05:38,770 --> 01:05:39,710
Those were eliminated.

655
01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:42,230
They were not filled positions vacant.

656
01:05:42,550 --> 01:05:44,170
That's over a million dollars.

657
01:05:44,930 --> 01:05:53,230
The nine of those positions were in the general fund and that had a savings of 772,000 to the general fund specifically.

658
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:01,700
In this year's budget, there are some key capital funded by the General Fund.

659
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:11,720
As I stated, May 3rd, all capital outlay, all CIP, was funded by prior year set aside.

660
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:18,100
We set aside the money annually by policy for the vehicle replacement.

661
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:25,420
And then because we have had so much reserves left over the last few years, it was

662
01:06:25,420 --> 01:06:32,040
directed that we were to fund all of this via fund balance so there is no impact any of the

663
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:37,680
capital that is in next year's proposed budget coming from ad valorem proceeds for the current

664
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:43,720
fiscal year. The total funded capital is 6.5 million.

665
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,240
This evening is one of two required

666
01:06:51,420 --> 01:06:56,640
public hearings to set the budget. In order to pass the

667
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:02,680
military, there must be a passage by resolution. If there is no

668
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:07,840
resolution passed for the budget, whether tentative or final, you

669
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:16,000
do not go back to rollback. Per state statute, a taxing authority may

670
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:22,880
only levy a village if a resolution is passed by both the tentative and the final

671
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:29,340
village. So this process this evening is dictated by the state. Statute

672
01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:30,380
said is.

673
01:07:33,860 --> 01:07:37,100
Thank you Mr. McKinney. Commissioner of Yola Vasquez, you're on the

674
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:42,780
board. Thank you, Mayor. Actually, I'm going to scratch one question. It was

675
01:07:42,780 --> 01:07:47,940
answered. I just have a question that I will be heard a comment. I have to

676
01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:50,040
agenda, which is the update of one?

677
01:08:00,220 --> 01:08:00,900
Thank you.

678
01:08:17,220 --> 01:08:20,560
Any other comments, questions from Commissioner Arlington?

679
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,660
Thank you, Mayor. So I initially had a PowerPoint presentation, but that gave

680
01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:31,600
Doc some angst, so I'm not going to put that up tonight, but I will talk about it.

681
01:08:32,780 --> 01:08:40,760
Tonight we're discussing whether or not we consider a full rollback at 6.5494 or the proposed

682
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:50,040
rate of 6.75 for the record. Yes, I did vote for the lake cleaning. However, I did not agree

683
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:56,960
at that time to a 6.7 versus 6.75 milliderate. I have been asking for a full rollback from

684
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:57,520
the beginning.

685
01:09:00,020 --> 01:09:07,420
This new rate represents 3.06 percent increase or $1.1 million over the rollback

686
01:09:07,420 --> 01:09:08,560
I

687
01:09:11,670 --> 01:09:17,150
ran some graphs this week as I was prepping for the meetings, which I have here and I'm happy to share them with anybody.

688
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:27,430
But as you can see, we have doubled our costs over the past 10 years, specifically starting in 2010,

689
01:09:27,790 --> 01:09:33,870
or sorry, 2022. I don't know what happened in 2022, but we started spending like crazy.

690
01:09:33,870 --> 01:09:39,630
And as we know to get back to full rollback, it's what you spent the prior year plus inflation.

691
01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:43,050
So, every year we're growing that money.

692
01:09:43,490 --> 01:09:51,410
And so when we've grown since COVID, nearly 200%, I have to question, what are we doing?

693
01:09:52,670 --> 01:09:56,190
How can we not run this city more efficiently?

694
01:09:57,470 --> 01:10:02,950
I've offered ideas, I've offered options, they seem to fall on deaf ears.

695
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:14,790
I'm asking once again, looking at how we've increased our spending, I've run this by resident as well as the total expenditures and it's the same trend.

696
01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:23,670
So I can't justify this. I cannot justify continuing to take more and more money from our residents.

697
01:10:26,300 --> 01:10:31,620
We can't afford the government we have and our residents deserve to be able to afford their government.

698
01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:42,190
I have a resident this house burned down because he couldn't afford his electric bill and his house caught on fire trying to cook himself food.

699
01:10:42,850 --> 01:10:49,290
I've had elderly residents reach out and say that they can't afford to put food on the table and begged me not to raise the tax rate.

700
01:10:50,870 --> 01:11:00,750
I can't justify this. We have to figure it out. I've provided options, but obviously it's up to this board of six now,

701
01:11:00,750 --> 01:11:05,970
because number seven left the city because he can't afford to live here anymore.

702
01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:13,700
So I'm asking everybody to please take these things into account.

703
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,440
Our residents can no longer afford to live here.

704
01:11:17,580 --> 01:11:18,240
Thank you.

705
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,120
Nice Mary, Harriet.

706
01:11:21,660 --> 01:11:23,240
And then Commissioner Reelabaskos.

707
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,220
Interesting comment at the end.

708
01:11:28,140 --> 01:11:35,440
I talked with a resident after the meeting last week that was concerned

709
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:41,440
because his tax system noticed said that he had a $1,100 increase or over $1,000 increase

710
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:49,420
to his tax bill. After looking at the actual wine item increases on his tax bill, only $30

711
01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:59,320
of that was because of Deltono. And that trim notice was issued at 6.95 mils. When he calculated

712
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:07,260
out to 6.75. He actually had a lower tax bill or would have a lower tax bill next year than

713
01:12:07,260 --> 01:12:08,340
he did this year.

714
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,440
We're voting on next year's budget.

715
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:21,320
So I hear everybody but Deltona is not the

716
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,900
only taxing authority on your trim notice. When your tax bill is going up a thousand dollars or

717
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:32,720
it's going up a couple thousand dollars, it's got a look at the line for Deltona. If you look

718
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:38,480
the line for Deltono. That is the only line that this commission has any influence in control

719
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:47,160
over. Every single trim notice that I have seen or looked at when calculated out at 6.75

720
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:55,140
is going down. There was a Facebook post last week or the week before last, or somebody made

721
01:12:55,140 --> 01:13:02,100
a comment about their tax, their tax will going up. And there was the overwhelming majority

722
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:04,820
comments on there, said, well, my text bills going down.

723
01:13:07,010 --> 01:13:07,870
So not saying that we

724
01:13:07,870 --> 01:13:13,810
governed by Facebook, we don't, but that's for a group of residents, where it's

725
01:13:13,810 --> 01:13:16,910
the easiest, it's the easiest place to complain about something.

726
01:13:19,060 --> 01:13:19,340
And their

727
01:13:19,340 --> 01:13:25,140
comments were overwhelmingly, my text bills going down. I also know some residents

728
01:13:25,140 --> 01:13:28,760
that have left Deltono recently, actually quite a few of them in a couple of

729
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:36,340
that are in the process of leaving, and it's not because of their tax bill going up.

730
01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:42,620
It's actually because the quality of life here is significantly less than what they would

731
01:13:42,620 --> 01:13:47,680
expect. They want more investment into parks. They want better roads. They want the stormwater

732
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:52,440
fixed. Everybody wants these things, but that has to be paid for.

733
01:13:55,380 --> 01:13:56,400
There was a comment about

734
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,500
how immaculate our parks are.

735
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:00,920
I disagree.

736
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,880
I think that we have a lot of work to do on our parks.

737
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,620
To bring them up to the standard that our residents expect.

738
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,120
I think that this budget does a lot to get us there.

739
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:16,400
But there will always be more work to do.

740
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:17,760
There's always going to be another part

741
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,400
that needs to be improved.

742
01:14:22,590 --> 01:14:24,570
The notion that anybody was promised

743
01:14:24,570 --> 01:14:28,930
for the last three years that we were going to go to rollback

744
01:14:28,930 --> 01:14:34,230
is silly. I think there's only two commissioners up here that we're here three years ago.

745
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:42,530
My promise to residents has always been that we will invest in the city and we will make it the best that we can.

746
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:55,790
And I think that this budget does that by lowering a lot of people's tax bills, spending money on stormwater infrastructure, spending the money on our park infrastructure,

747
01:14:55,790 --> 01:14:58,950
Thank you for spending the money on enhancing our fire department.

748
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,800
All of those things are things that I've heard from everybody that we need to spend more money on, they expect us to spend money on.

749
01:15:06,140 --> 01:15:16,100
And so if we can reduce our tax bill and still accomplish that goal of enhancing the city services, then that's what we were voted here for.

750
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:17,080
Thank you, Mayor.

751
01:15:21,260 --> 01:15:26,400
Any more comments? If not, we're going to go to a good city attorney.

752
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:33,300
Yes, Mr. Mayor. Before you vote, the Finance Director does have a required statement that he needs to read.

753
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:33,980
I understand.

754
01:15:39,410 --> 01:15:39,650
Mayor.

755
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,780
I apologize again for some of this I've already said but I'm

756
01:15:44,780 --> 01:15:49,780
supposed to say it before we do the vote. With the recess of the first public hearing

757
01:15:49,780 --> 01:15:53,980
from Wednesday, September 3rd until Monday, September 8th, it is necessary to

758
01:15:53,980 --> 01:15:59,840
reschedule the final public hearing until Monday, September 22nd in order to allow for

759
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:05,240
the proper notification in the newspaper. So we would have to have a special meeting on

760
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:11,860
set timbre 22nd to allow for that time. All notifications regarding the recess for

761
01:16:11,860 --> 01:16:17,120
made in compliance with trim everything was posted on the main city website along

762
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:23,900
with the page that we've posted all of the budget documents for this fiscal year 2526

763
01:16:24,740 --> 01:16:30,100
process. This rescheduled meeting will be considered a special city commission meeting.

764
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:39,060
The fiscal year 2025-2026 budget commences on October 1, 2025 and continues through September 30,

765
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,720
2026 for the City of Deltono.

766
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:46,140
The City Commission shall discuss the tendency of a village necessary to find the fiscal year

767
01:16:46,140 --> 01:16:50,140
2025-2026 final budget for the City of Deltono.

768
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,260
The City of Deltono is the taxing authority and the current year taxable value for operating

769
01:16:55,260 --> 01:17:01,480
purposes is $5,671,597,678.

770
01:17:02,540 --> 01:17:11,420
The adopted tenet of millidrate of $6.75 per $1,000 of valuation is a 3.06% increase in

771
01:17:11,420 --> 01:17:16,780
advalorant tax revenues above the rollback rate of $6.594.

772
01:17:18,940 --> 01:17:23,840
I have placed on the dius for everyone this evening that cost of public records that I

773
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,900
asked to do on two individuals, along with every member of the commission.

774
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:37,040
The average taxable value for a residential unit within Delton and next year is a little

775
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:42,120
over $122,000, first is last year's $1,019,000.

776
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:51,680
We're looking at an overall increase for the average residential property within Delton of $6.84

777
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:59,240
for a 12-month period. As the Vice Mayor said, I only look at the Deltono portion. I'm not the overall

778
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:08,060
tax bill. We're looking at $6.84. Except for the mayor who rents everyone else's taxes for

779
01:18:08,060 --> 01:18:21,660
next year did show a decrease over this year. So if I take into account all the members of the

780
01:18:21,660 --> 01:18:25,680
for the members of Commission plus the average.

781
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:30,140
So that $6.84 for the average.

782
01:18:30,820 --> 01:18:34,140
I wish it was the simple as multiply that by 38,000,

783
01:18:34,820 --> 01:18:37,380
you know, single family residential parcels.

784
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,660
However, I said the 1, 22 is the average and that doesn't take

785
01:18:41,660 --> 01:18:46,780
into account the commercial properties, the publics, the lows, the Amazon,

786
01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:49,320
the film, it centers, et cetera.

787
01:18:52,620 --> 01:18:58,700
This increase in millage over the rollback rate is for funding that the operations debt service

788
01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:03,100
capital outlay and capital improvement programs of the city of Deltona.

789
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:09,160
Major changes from last year as has followed, a hack funding of 343,000, stormwater

790
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:16,080
lake remediation of 269,000, general fund debt reduction, 333,000, fraud and compliance

791
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:22,360
audit of $500,000 additional litigation of $1,000,000 to additional cut-off serves

792
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:29,080
of $149,000 to additional vehicles for the above officers of $72,000, $6,000 additional

793
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:35,120
firefighters funded at 75% of a fiscal year of $5,000 and $34,000 shares contract increased

794
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,960
of $1.15 million.

795
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:42,980
All other department fund departments decreased with the exception of the public works due

796
01:19:42,980 --> 01:19:47,340
the nature of their business, and the reduction of 12 positions within the city,

797
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:53,880
nine of them within the general fund, with a reduction of 772,000, plus the capital improvements

798
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:58,460
funded by the general fund, the land acquisition of repetitive loss properties of a million,

799
01:19:58,780 --> 01:20:05,420
fire training complex, a 250,000 park capital improvements, a 4.25 million, and the Catalina

800
01:20:05,420 --> 01:20:11,180
Boulevard, and El Campbell of our elevation of the HMGP grant of a little over $1 million.

801
01:20:11,180 --> 01:20:15,600
1 million dollars. This budget includes all operating capital

802
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,140
costs for fiscal year 2026. This budget includes the general

803
01:20:19,140 --> 01:20:22,560
special revenue debt service capital enterprise and

804
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:27,200
internal service funds. The proposed citywide fiscal year 2025 2026

805
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:34,260
budget for all funds is $245 million, $6.83, $379. Thank you, Mayor.

806
01:20:35,260 --> 01:20:39,260
Before you read the full proposal, we have Vice Mayor and

807
01:20:39,260 --> 01:20:44,500
Commissioner of the Vasquez I want to speak, and then you can read the required motion.

808
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:45,940
Thank you, Mayor.

809
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:52,200
So do we have this request that could be a slide or shown to everybody?

810
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,480
It'll be posted on the website this evening before we leave.

811
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:01,980
All right.

812
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:02,900
So just so everybody.

813
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,620
Without the addresses.

814
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:09,550
It's a public record.

815
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:12,250
No, it's not public record.

816
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:13,330
It will not be posted.

817
01:21:13,330 --> 01:21:14,990
And Zach, take care of this.

818
01:21:18,820 --> 01:21:27,180
Yeah, we will ensure that all reduction is done properly and ensure that this is done

819
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:28,200
compliant with law.

820
01:21:33,810 --> 01:21:38,310
So just to summarize what is in front of us,

821
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,540
district one, commissioners, property value,

822
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,920
or tax bills going down $2.93, district two, commissioners, probably.

823
01:21:52,330 --> 01:21:54,590
You're going to blow information.

824
01:21:55,390 --> 01:21:56,270
That's just the idea.

825
01:21:56,270 --> 01:21:58,390
You're going to come up with.

826
01:22:01,430 --> 01:22:02,990
I'll clarify without.

827
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:03,750
Okay.

828
01:22:04,210 --> 01:22:05,770
And then after you, I call, all right?

829
01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:06,490
Thank you.

830
01:22:06,590 --> 01:22:10,850
Just to clarify, out of all of us on here,

831
01:22:11,250 --> 01:22:15,630
that owns homes, everybody's tax bill is going down.

832
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:21,330
It just proves the point that there are some exceptions to that,

833
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:23,090
but they are a few and far between.

834
01:22:25,780 --> 01:22:27,780
Commissionary the Vaskos, can you click on your mic?

835
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:29,740
Thank you.

836
01:22:30,820 --> 01:22:36,040
You know, I try not to make too many comments when it comes to real estate taxes,

837
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,400
because I always get a tack.

838
01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:43,620
Because as a wife of 100% disabled Vietnam veteran,

839
01:22:44,220 --> 01:22:46,900
we do not pay real estate taxes.

840
01:22:47,460 --> 01:22:48,660
Those are his benefits.

841
01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:51,640
I like to know, and even though his public record,

842
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,920
who gave permission to put my information on a piece of paper like this?

843
01:22:57,020 --> 01:23:01,420
Because I'm the only one in this piece of paper that has zero on it.

844
01:23:02,020 --> 01:23:07,320
So even though it's public record, I never gave permission to put this on paper.

845
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,120
If anybody wants to look at it, then let them go look at public records.

846
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:12,540
And I'm tired.

847
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,880
I was saying, because you guys like to bring up Facebook,

848
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:36,720
I will send a snapshot of a common may-by-device may-are saying that if everybody in the city pay taxes and most of more than 50% of people in Delta on it don't pay taxes, I got a news for you, that 50% are veterans who are 100% disabled.

849
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:43,940
Those are the only ones who do not pay 100% taxes, so let's stop picking on the veterans.

850
01:23:43,940 --> 01:23:48,120
All right, let's stop picking on them, and I'm always put in the spot.

851
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,440
I'm always using an example, and I'm tired of it.

852
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:57,640
My husband's been two years in the war in Vietnam, and he's not even getting a piece

853
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,700
of what he deserved.

854
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:00,300
So let's stop this.

855
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:05,270
All right, let's bring it back.

856
01:24:07,650 --> 01:24:12,570
Can you please read the, the, I think, I think Mayor, just, just, just for correction, Mayor,

857
01:24:13,190 --> 01:24:15,270
the paper in front of you was not given out to the public.

858
01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:19,350
that was just for the commission, because a lot of comments are made that all the taxes

859
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:23,050
are going up, thousands of dollars as we heard tonight, and it was evident of when you

860
01:24:23,050 --> 01:24:27,410
look at the seven leadership, this is the information, but it was exclusive for you, and

861
01:24:27,410 --> 01:24:30,910
as it was mentioned up, putting on line the first thing we said is, no addresses are

862
01:24:30,910 --> 01:24:31,470
anything else.

863
01:24:31,690 --> 01:24:33,290
Excuse me?

864
01:24:33,470 --> 01:24:36,130
It was decided among you three to give it out.

865
01:24:36,430 --> 01:24:38,070
For the commissioners to see what happened.

866
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:39,490
I was not involved in this.

867
01:24:39,490 --> 01:24:40,470
So I must have been you.

868
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:44,870
It was a response to me, I didn't know about it until tonight.

869
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:50,030
It was a response when you hear, as you heard tonight, the statements that everybody's

870
01:24:50,030 --> 01:24:53,310
taxes went up thousands of dollars, people can't eat or anything else.

871
01:24:53,410 --> 01:24:57,710
It was an example for the commissioners to see, no, that is not correct information, but

872
01:24:57,710 --> 01:25:00,170
that was not information that was being put out to the public whatsoever.

873
01:25:01,590 --> 01:25:02,030
All right.

874
01:25:02,590 --> 01:25:05,970
Well, it's all public record anyway, what taxes are in water bills and everything else.

875
01:25:06,510 --> 01:25:09,050
So, it is not a secret that we give that information anyway.

876
01:25:09,490 --> 01:25:09,810
Thank you.

877
01:25:09,810 --> 01:25:13,970
All right, Vice Mayor, and then Commissioner Howington, did you still order?

878
01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:16,870
Yeah. Okay. Vice Mayor, and let's bring it back.

879
01:25:17,150 --> 01:25:18,950
We don't need to be having this back and forth.

880
01:25:20,670 --> 01:25:25,230
So I want to be clear that my comment was not directed

881
01:25:25,230 --> 01:25:27,290
at any specific commissioner whatsoever.

882
01:25:28,010 --> 01:25:28,450
Greatly.

883
01:25:28,610 --> 01:25:29,590
That's why my name is Black.

884
01:25:30,050 --> 01:25:30,610
Well, I don't.

885
01:25:30,610 --> 01:25:32,250
That's why there's no figures on my name.

886
01:25:32,350 --> 01:25:36,470
I didn't know about this until it was actually just mentioned.

887
01:25:38,410 --> 01:25:44,890
But it is not true that 50% of the residents that don't pay property tax in the city are veterans.

888
01:25:45,810 --> 01:25:47,570
That's not factual whatsoever.

889
01:25:50,070 --> 01:26:05,450
And the fact that only 50% are roughly there about 50% of the residents are exempt from paying property taxes is the contributing, major contributing factor to why we do have the tax rate that we have.

890
01:26:05,450 --> 01:26:06,490
That's a fact.

891
01:26:08,190 --> 01:26:10,470
So, I don't need it to clear that up.

892
01:26:10,750 --> 01:26:12,950
It's not, it has nothing to do with veterans.

893
01:26:13,170 --> 01:26:14,690
It's not an attack on veterans whatsoever.

894
01:26:15,490 --> 01:26:18,930
In fact, I believe that there's a very small percentage

895
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:22,130
that are veterans that receive that discount.

896
01:26:23,630 --> 01:26:23,890
Thank you, Mayor.

897
01:26:24,290 --> 01:26:24,710
Next.

898
01:26:26,150 --> 01:26:33,350
Can we please, Mr. McKenney, can you please read the required motion?

899
01:26:34,230 --> 01:26:35,430
Yes, sir.

900
01:26:38,260 --> 01:26:44,780
To recap for item 7A, which is the tentative village, it would be it's a motion to approve resolution number

901
01:26:44,780 --> 01:26:58,440
2025-121 adopting the city of Delton of fiscal year 2025-126 tentative village rate of 6.7500 mills per 1,000 evaluation.

902
01:26:59,300 --> 01:27:01,840
If I can please add the city clerk call the roll.

903
01:27:06,980 --> 01:27:08,680
You have to request a mic, please.

904
01:27:11,850 --> 01:27:14,350
Commissioner Bill of S class? No.

905
01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:20,200
We're not clapping. Commissioner Callwell? No.

906
01:27:21,540 --> 01:27:23,600
Commissioner Howington? No.

907
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:29,150
Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet?

908
01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:31,530
Yes.

909
01:27:33,090 --> 01:27:34,090
Mayor Bill. Yes.

910
01:27:38,780 --> 01:27:40,160
The motion fills.

911
01:27:42,060 --> 01:27:45,040
All right. This time we'll do it. We'll take a recess.

912
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:50,080
So the city manager with the city attorney can meet each commission or

913
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,220
individual we're not going to have the fiasco we have last year.

914
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:57,280
We're going to meet with each commissioner individually in the back city attorney do you have instructions?

915
01:27:58,900 --> 01:28:03,220
Commissioner of the last because I understand you're frustrated he's going to explain it.

916
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,260
We need to we need to calm it down, right?

917
01:28:05,540 --> 01:28:08,760
Let the city attorney explain it, please so

918
01:28:09,780 --> 01:28:13,320
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So if it is the

919
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:22,400
If it is the will of the body, we can take a recess to allow the manager and his staff

920
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:34,160
to meet individually with each commissioner to discuss a amended tentative

921
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:42,200
military that could be presented by staff in order to allow this to move forward tonight.

922
01:28:42,380 --> 01:28:52,520
It is a requirement as Mr. Mr. McKinney noted that the commission does have to pass a

923
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:57,640
resolution enacting a tentative budget in order to meet state statute. Excuse me.

924
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:03,440
Sure. I know this seems common to you. This is not funny. This is not a game. It's not a joke.

925
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:07,480
We're trying to conduct business and you can make faces at me all you want, respectfully.

926
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:09,800
You're doing yourself at this service.

927
01:29:10,340 --> 01:29:14,260
So I'm asking you to respectfully let us conduct business so we can try to get this

928
01:29:14,260 --> 01:29:15,380
figured out.

929
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:16,760
Continue city attorney.

930
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:24,980
So we can take a 15 or 30 minute recess to allow those conversations to happen and allow

931
01:29:24,980 --> 01:29:32,300
staff to come back and present a revised tentative military for the commission's consideration.

932
01:29:33,500 --> 01:29:46,860
you, someone who was on the, I guess the, the side of the motion could offer an alternative

933
01:29:46,860 --> 01:29:57,580
motion so that would be the vice mayor and Commissioner Santiago who were the maker in the

934
01:29:57,580 --> 01:29:59,620
second, they could offer an alternative motion.

935
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,840
At this time, however, if that is not going to be done, then we could continue directly to the recess.

936
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,880
All right, we have Vice Mayor, then call well, then Commissioner Villabascos.

937
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:27,540
Thank you, Mayor. My only request is that if we do proceed with a recess to have individual discussions,

938
01:30:27,540 --> 01:30:34,720
that we keep the live streams streaming to prevent the false accusations of two people that

939
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:39,300
were in this room right now. The occurred last year.

940
01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:47,120
Commissioner Cawa. Zach, is it state mandatory that we come to an agreement today?

941
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:57,200
So in order to meet state statute, you are required to enact by resolution a tentative

942
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,240
military,

943
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,460
correct me if I'm wrong.

944
01:31:02,740 --> 01:31:11,020
I believe that in order to make the prescribed timeline, it could be done at a later date.

945
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,820
What is, it all depends on the advertising deadlines of the newspapers.

946
01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:21,360
So I'm going to defer to Mr. McKinney.

947
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:32,240
Commissioner, the latest in order to comply with all the notifications would be Wednesday, September the 17th.

948
01:31:32,420 --> 01:31:43,940
To pass a tentative village, which would mean that we would have to hold our final public hearing on Monday, September 29th.

949
01:31:43,940 --> 01:31:52,660
the only caveat to that would be typically speaking as we're in a particular season here in Florida.

950
01:31:54,360 --> 01:32:00,680
We could be impacted, you never know, and that then puts a caveat in it, and then typically

951
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:09,480
the governor would issue an executive order that could extend it for the typically the final public

952
01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:15,480
hearing, usually the first public hearing occurs no later than September 15th.

953
01:32:16,460 --> 01:32:20,240
So our 15 minute meeting is going to be just about the ruleback or the military?

954
01:32:20,500 --> 01:32:21,240
Yes, sir.

955
01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:21,860
And not the budget.

956
01:32:22,460 --> 01:32:24,500
Because I believe to get to where we want to be.

957
01:32:24,740 --> 01:32:26,680
The budget is going to have to be discussed also.

958
01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:28,420
Yes, that's correct.

959
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,840
So if you're able to come to.

960
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:37,180
Well, if the commission decides the rollback, then you're going to have to decide what projects

961
01:32:37,180 --> 01:32:41,100
are cutting from the budget, so it would be related to both.

962
01:32:41,460 --> 01:32:43,260
So we can accomplish that in 15 minutes?

963
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:43,840
No.

964
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:44,260
Okay.

965
01:32:44,260 --> 01:32:45,280
But we can talk.

966
01:32:48,860 --> 01:32:49,880
Commissioner Vasquez.

967
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,040
I sort of have got my answer.

968
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:57,240
Thank you.

969
01:32:57,420 --> 01:32:58,120
Commissioner Howington?

970
01:33:00,060 --> 01:33:06,880
I just want to remind everybody that last year's budget have $1.1 million removed from it, but

971
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,880
it was kept in the millage rate.

972
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:20,380
So, this year's rollback is already based on a trumped up number from last year that had 1.1 million dollars of unencumbered funds.

973
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,740
That is enough to get us to a full rollback.

974
01:33:35,260 --> 01:33:40,260
So, at this time, if Mayor, if you'd like to...

975
01:33:40,260 --> 01:33:46,880
We're going to go ahead and go into a recess to see how much time we can come.

976
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:55,220
something, then we'll have to obviously table the matter. So 30 minutes? Is the size okay

977
01:33:55,220 --> 01:33:56,320
with a 30 minute recess?

978
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:03,460
No, it's 30 minutes and whole, right? Or did you want to do 15 minutes

979
01:34:03,460 --> 01:34:04,240
each?

980
01:34:06,970 --> 01:34:15,470
Go ahead, city attorney? Yeah, I was, so you guys think we start with 30 minutes total and

981
01:34:15,470 --> 01:34:17,710
and then we can extend if needed.

982
01:34:18,550 --> 01:34:18,710
All right.

983
01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:22,210
Just again, that will be a quick conversation, but.

984
01:34:22,690 --> 01:34:27,510
A expectation that everybody who's not speaking to whoever is staying away from the back.

985
01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:30,370
We have a 30 minute recess.

986
02:36:00,820 --> 02:36:08,280
The meeting back up from recess. This time, we're going to entertain a motion and the second.

987
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:12,460
And we have Commissioner Howington is first, Commissioner Howington.

988
02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:15,600
I'd like to make a motion.

989
02:36:17,260 --> 02:36:18,760
Go ahead, Commissioner Howington.

990
02:36:19,280 --> 02:36:29,340
To adopt a tentative village for the fiscal year 202526 at the full rollback rate of 6.5494 per thousand dollars.

991
02:36:29,340 --> 02:36:32,460
There's a motion by Commissioner Howington, Commissioner Coel.

992
02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:34,560
Second, second by Commissioner Coel.

993
02:36:35,380 --> 02:36:36,520
If we can please vote,

994
02:36:39,740 --> 02:36:41,380
City Clerk, you will have to do a roll call.

995
02:36:46,970 --> 02:36:49,030
That's what my paper says, sorry.

996
02:36:51,420 --> 02:36:53,400
And if all the commissioners can just turn on their mics,

997
02:36:53,480 --> 02:36:55,060
and I'm just going to turn them all on.

998
02:36:55,620 --> 02:36:57,000
Commissioner, I feel the best voice.

999
02:36:59,180 --> 02:36:59,540
I'm sorry.

1000
02:37:07,860 --> 02:37:08,660
I have a question.

1001
02:37:10,400 --> 02:37:11,500
I have a question.

1002
02:37:13,380 --> 02:37:16,240
So if this motion fails, this is another motion.

1003
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:19,680
And then if that motion fails, there's another motion.

1004
02:37:22,960 --> 02:37:23,260
No.

1005
02:37:27,180 --> 02:37:28,280
Commissioner Callwell?

1006
02:37:28,620 --> 02:37:28,980
No.

1007
02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:30,200
Oh, yes.

1008
02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:30,840
I'm sorry.

1009
02:37:31,340 --> 02:37:31,500
Yes.

1010
02:37:31,860 --> 02:37:32,900
This is for Doris.

1011
02:37:33,760 --> 02:37:34,260
Okay, yes.

1012
02:37:34,940 --> 02:37:35,780
Commissioner Howington?

1013
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:37,320
Yes.

1014
02:37:38,800 --> 02:37:39,580
Commissioner Satyago?

1015
02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:40,740
No.

1016
02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:43,340
Vice Mayor Harriet?

1017
02:37:43,700 --> 02:37:44,160
No.

1018
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:45,660
Mayor Bella.

1019
02:37:46,440 --> 02:37:46,720
No.

1020
02:37:48,910 --> 02:37:49,270
The fails.

1021
02:37:49,270 --> 02:37:54,870
Motion fails two to four at this time. I wanted to take good, vice-mer. I'd like to make a motion.

1022
02:37:56,550 --> 02:37:59,430
Turn on your mic again, please because I have to turn them all off.

1023
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:09,040
Go ahead. I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution number 20 25-121 adopting the tentative

1024
02:38:09,040 --> 02:38:10,060
millage.

1025
02:38:11,740 --> 02:38:12,440
Can I see your paper?

1026
02:38:15,340 --> 02:38:20,740
The tentative millage rate of 6.70 mills per $1,000 evaluation.

1027
02:38:22,410 --> 02:38:27,330
Okay, there's a motion by Vice Mayor, Vice Mayor Harriet, Commissioner Sonsarrier next

1028
02:38:27,330 --> 02:38:28,050
on the board.

1029
02:38:28,470 --> 02:38:28,590
Second.

1030
02:38:29,150 --> 02:38:29,870
There's a second.

1031
02:38:30,070 --> 02:38:31,330
Can we please go for...

1032
02:38:31,870 --> 02:38:32,830
Go ahead, Zudia, Attorney.

1033
02:38:33,430 --> 02:38:38,490
Just if you could please state the village up to four decimal places.

1034
02:38:39,970 --> 02:38:45,270
6.7, 0, 0, 0, 0, per 1,000.

1035
02:38:45,690 --> 02:38:45,970
Thank you.

1036
02:38:47,290 --> 02:38:48,030
And further resident...

1037
02:38:48,030 --> 02:38:48,350
Well done.

1038
02:38:48,490 --> 02:38:49,170
It was written down.

1039
02:38:49,170 --> 02:38:51,610
for the resident said that it was written down.

1040
02:38:51,750 --> 02:38:52,930
There's literally a script here.

1041
02:38:53,070 --> 02:38:54,410
I just changed the numbers on it.

1042
02:38:56,210 --> 02:38:56,270
Okay.

1043
02:38:56,970 --> 02:38:58,410
Is that good for you?

1044
02:38:58,410 --> 02:38:59,390
The city attorney.

1045
02:39:04,230 --> 02:39:05,270
Commissioner Abilabasquas.

1046
02:39:08,860 --> 02:39:12,460
This is what the milit rate I was discussed at the workshop.

1047
02:39:12,940 --> 02:39:15,140
So that's what I'm going to agree to.

1048
02:39:15,360 --> 02:39:15,860
Yes.

1049
02:39:17,600 --> 02:39:18,440
Commissioner Clawwell?

1050
02:39:18,660 --> 02:39:19,040
No.

1051
02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:21,280
Commissioner Howington?

1052
02:39:21,700 --> 02:39:21,980
No.

1053
02:39:23,360 --> 02:39:34,620
Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet? Yes. Mayor Villa? Yes. That passes. Okay. The motion passes forward to.

1054
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:45,060
All right. At this time, we're going to go to section B. If I can please have the city attorney read the next section, please.

1055
02:39:46,850 --> 02:39:54,970
Yes, Mr. Mayor, so as we previously discussed this evening, we held a collective public hearing

1056
02:39:54,970 --> 02:40:06,090
on both TAB 7A and 7B, so this will be TAB 7B resolution 2025-122, a resolution of the

1057
02:40:06,090 --> 02:40:10,070
city commission of the city of Dalton of Florida, adopting the tentative budget for each of

1058
02:40:10,070 --> 02:40:16,470
several funds and apartments of the city for the fiscal year-beating October 125, and ending

1059
02:40:16,470 --> 02:40:21,330
September 30th, 2026, approving the tentative capital improvement plan, providing for appropriation

1060
02:40:21,330 --> 02:40:25,970
and procedures, providing for scrubbers' errors, and providing for an effective date, and the

1061
02:40:25,970 --> 02:40:32,610
finance director will have an updated total budget number for you based on the approved tentative

1062
02:40:32,610 --> 02:40:34,870
military of 6.7000.

1063
02:40:39,220 --> 02:40:44,020
Go ahead. Yes, Mayor. This budget includes all operating in capital

1064
02:40:44,020 --> 02:40:51,360
cost for FISCY or 2025-2026. This budget includes the general special revenue debt service capital

1065
02:40:51,360 --> 02:40:59,660
enterprise and internal service funds. The proposed citywide FISCY or 2025-2026 budget for all funds

1066
02:40:59,660 --> 02:41:04,680
is $245,447,034.

1067
02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:05,580
Go

1068
02:41:10,820 --> 02:41:11,160
ahead.

1069
02:41:12,520 --> 02:41:13,440
Just for clarification.

1070
02:41:13,720 --> 02:41:14,860
What was the last number?

1071
02:41:15,460 --> 02:41:17,200
Zero three four.

1072
02:41:20,120 --> 02:41:20,420
All right.

1073
02:41:20,680 --> 02:41:25,480
This time on our entertainer motion to begin discussion.

1074
02:41:25,760 --> 02:41:28,280
And then we'll go to.

1075
02:41:28,280 --> 02:41:28,620
Go ahead.

1076
02:41:28,760 --> 02:41:29,280
Vice Mayor.

1077
02:41:29,640 --> 02:41:30,200
Here we go.

1078
02:41:30,380 --> 02:41:32,580
I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution.

1079
02:41:32,920 --> 02:41:36,740
Number twenty twenty five dash twenty dash one twenty two.

1080
02:41:36,860 --> 02:41:40,380
Adopt in the tentative budget for FY twenty five twenty six.

1081
02:41:40,380 --> 02:41:47,380
And the amount of $245,470,000 and $34,000.

1082
02:41:48,740 --> 02:41:50,120
Commissioner or a Vila Vescos?

1083
02:41:50,460 --> 02:41:51,100
I have a comment.

1084
02:41:51,360 --> 02:41:52,080
A question, actually.

1085
02:41:53,440 --> 02:41:59,160
So, with the village that we approved, it eliminates a project.

1086
02:42:01,180 --> 02:42:05,340
So, this budget that we're approving, is that budget still considered in?

1087
02:42:05,340 --> 02:42:09,220
I mean, is that plan still considered in the budget that we're approving?

1088
02:42:09,220 --> 02:42:15,860
No, he just reduced that out of the budget, Mr. McKinney, can you please go ahead.

1089
02:42:16,200 --> 02:42:25,520
Yes, Mayor, by reducing from 6.75 to 6.70, that reduced the budget by 269,400 of

1090
02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:27,540
one dollars.

1091
02:42:28,300 --> 02:42:28,580
Okay.

1092
02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:32,260
It's for the stormwater lake remediation.

1093
02:42:32,540 --> 02:42:32,960
Thank you.

1094
02:42:33,080 --> 02:42:37,320
That's exactly what I was going to ask you to let the audience know what project is it that

1095
02:42:37,320 --> 02:42:40,960
removing to bring it down to 6.7.

1096
02:42:41,640 --> 02:42:42,500
That is correct.

1097
02:42:42,920 --> 02:42:44,600
All right. Thank you.

1098
02:42:44,840 --> 02:42:45,980
We're waiting for a second.

1099
02:42:49,810 --> 02:42:50,630
Commissioner Santiago.

1100
02:42:51,990 --> 02:42:52,350
A second.

1101
02:42:55,050 --> 02:42:55,510
Vice Mayor.

1102
02:42:56,490 --> 02:42:58,630
I want to be a very transparent

1103
02:42:58,630 --> 02:43:02,070
the discussion that we had was removing that

1104
02:43:02,070 --> 02:43:03,710
and then looking

1105
02:43:04,690 --> 02:43:07,590
reevaluating that when we talk about additional

1106
02:43:09,130 --> 02:43:15,450
We have a workshop coming up, I believe in October, November, timeframe to discuss street lighting and some other things.

1107
02:43:15,870 --> 02:43:22,390
And so we would revisit more comprehensive plan for aquatic weed control at that time.

1108
02:43:26,190 --> 02:43:28,070
Okay, any other discussion from the dives?

1109
02:43:35,070 --> 02:43:36,770
Commissioner Villabasquas?

1110
02:43:37,530 --> 02:43:37,650
Yes.

1111
02:43:39,090 --> 02:43:39,970
Commissioner Callwell?

1112
02:43:40,090 --> 02:43:40,410
No.

1113
02:43:42,350 --> 02:43:43,030
Commissioner Howington?

1114
02:43:43,390 --> 02:43:43,870
No.

1115
02:43:44,830 --> 02:43:48,830
Commissioner Satyago? Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet?

1116
02:43:49,190 --> 02:43:51,750
Yeah. Mayor Beola? Yes.

1117
02:43:52,370 --> 02:43:55,870
Passes. One, two. Motion passes forward to two.

1118
02:43:57,190 --> 02:43:59,510
All right. This time we're going to go to section seven.

1119
02:43:59,870 --> 02:44:02,870
Seas and Charlie, if I can please get the city attorney to.

1120
02:44:06,030 --> 02:44:16,470
Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is an item for discussion regarding the

1121
02:44:16,470 --> 02:44:20,630
as per city charter section 5, 7, B, 2,

1122
02:44:20,950 --> 02:44:24,690
quote, if, however, the remainder of the unexpired term exceeds two years,

1123
02:44:24,970 --> 02:44:28,010
the remaining commissioners shall within 30 days following the occurrence

1124
02:44:28,010 --> 02:44:31,890
of such vacancy by majority vote, a point a person to fill the vacancy

1125
02:44:31,890 --> 02:44:34,150
until the next regularly scheduled city election.

1126
02:44:34,610 --> 02:44:38,470
And this is for you all to discuss as a body,

1127
02:44:40,250 --> 02:44:45,430
this resignation and any process that you may like to follow

1128
02:44:45,430 --> 02:44:46,250
regarding appointment.

1129
02:44:46,830 --> 02:44:47,010
All right.

1130
02:44:47,170 --> 02:44:50,450
Just to accept parameters, we're not going to do a motion right now, we're going to discuss

1131
02:44:50,450 --> 02:44:50,950
this.

1132
02:44:51,270 --> 02:44:55,150
I'm only going to ask, let's keep all the personal stuff out of this.

1133
02:44:55,550 --> 02:44:59,790
This is the process on how we're going to like someone and Commissioner Villabasco as you

1134
02:44:59,790 --> 02:44:59,970
are for.

1135
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,880
But just want to lay that out there. This is a discussion on the process and how we're going to implement it. Go ahead, Commissioner.

1136
02:45:06,360 --> 02:45:29,680
Thank you, Mayor. So we do have a process that has been working for many years and I would like to continue using the process, which is having all the names of the people that have put in for this position for the district commission for district six.

1137
02:45:30,320 --> 02:45:31,920
And, you know, they get rated.

1138
02:45:32,180 --> 02:45:37,240
So I would like to keep that process that has been working for us.

1139
02:45:38,360 --> 02:45:41,240
Just for clarification, I would also include the voting at the end,

1140
02:45:41,300 --> 02:45:43,180
because that is the only thing the trigger requires.

1141
02:45:44,480 --> 02:45:47,400
We do the rating system, and then we all have to vote at the end.

1142
02:45:50,220 --> 02:45:50,360
No.

1143
02:45:51,120 --> 02:45:57,540
We have a rating system, and whoever has the lowest total is the one that gets elected,

1144
02:45:57,540 --> 02:46:05,840
because it goes, you go from selecting, so if you have five, four people, you go,

1145
02:46:05,840 --> 02:46:11,040
person one, two, three, or four, or one, four, three, or one, whatever, and then

1146
02:46:11,040 --> 02:46:16,060
they total those votes, and whoever gets to lowest, correct, but number gets,

1147
02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:18,940
even then we all voted for, no, we don't vote.

1148
02:46:18,940 --> 02:46:25,080
So we have, that is, Mr. Mayor, if I may, it is a requirement of sunshine

1149
02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:35,100
that there be a formal motion at a second on the floor in order to ensure that a system such

1150
02:46:35,100 --> 02:46:42,480
as this would not be perceived as a secret ballot. So you may certainly use a ranking system

1151
02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:50,420
but you would still have to have a motion in a second to adopt the lowest or high strength

1152
02:46:50,420 --> 02:46:59,600
candidate on the floor, so you can use that system, but there would still have to be a verbal vote

1153
02:46:59,600 --> 02:47:07,650
on the floor in order to meet the requirements of sunshine just as a slate and nuance to that.

1154
02:47:09,480 --> 02:47:12,100
All right, choice is that part of the voting?

1155
02:47:13,160 --> 02:47:17,540
Click on the voting. Just so everyone else can hear you hold on. Go address.

1156
02:47:18,160 --> 02:47:29,460
Right, so once you rank them in the lowest person would normally have gotten the first vote in the past, you've done a motion for that person and a vote for that person.

1157
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:31,600
So it doesn't include the motion in the votes.

1158
02:47:35,100 --> 02:47:37,680
You have a commissioner call while you're obnoxious in the vice mayor.

1159
02:47:38,140 --> 02:47:39,480
My question is we're along the same line.

1160
02:47:39,600 --> 02:47:40,260
Does the mislead here?

1161
02:47:40,820 --> 02:47:43,940
So we did have a vote at the end when we voted in the two commissions.

1162
02:47:44,380 --> 02:47:46,940
I don't believe that we had that,

1163
02:47:50,160 --> 02:47:52,660
but that's all I have.

1164
02:47:52,660 --> 02:47:58,980
Just can we verify it? Because I remember like with Troy, we all voted. I think only one person voted against Troy

1165
02:48:00,020 --> 02:48:05,520
Yeah, so just for clarification, please. All right, Vice Mayor Harry you're up next

1166
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:08,220
Thank you, Mayor

1167
02:48:09,160 --> 02:48:10,760
As one of the

1168
02:48:10,760 --> 02:48:15,120
Commissioners that was appointed through that process and I I'm gonna be very

1169
02:48:17,520 --> 02:48:28,760
I want to preface this with I will speak personally about myself and none of my comments

1170
02:48:28,760 --> 02:48:31,760
are about any specific commissioners that are on the diet.

1171
02:48:34,870 --> 02:48:40,270
Somebody that went through that process was ranked, was voted on, ultimately appointed,

1172
02:48:40,990 --> 02:48:44,550
seen that process for myself and another commissioner.

1173
02:48:44,550 --> 02:48:51,900
I know for a fact that there are ways to gain that process and I truly believe that that process was

1174
02:48:51,900 --> 02:48:58,100
gained in that instance those instances. For that reason I do not support using that process.

1175
02:48:58,620 --> 02:49:09,960
Ultimately it requires a vote at the end regardless. I would prefer to see dialogue amongst us and then a motion made by somebody

1176
02:49:09,960 --> 02:49:12,300
on the Diaz and then a vote.

1177
02:49:16,570 --> 02:49:17,230
Any other comments?

1178
02:49:17,310 --> 02:49:17,930
Commission or something?

1179
02:49:20,990 --> 02:49:24,550
I agree with Harriet, the system is flawed.

1180
02:49:25,110 --> 02:49:30,350
When you do the ranking from one to four to one through six,

1181
02:49:31,410 --> 02:49:35,570
personally I had, when I was, when I submitted my application,

1182
02:49:37,270 --> 02:49:38,830
that system was flawed.

1183
02:49:39,130 --> 02:49:43,550
It was evident, because I had the support of four,

1184
02:49:43,550 --> 02:49:46,010
but yet they still voted for the lowest.

1185
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:51,050
So kind of the way the numbering system worked

1186
02:49:51,050 --> 02:49:52,270
was very flawed.

1187
02:49:52,890 --> 02:49:55,030
So definitely do not agree with it.

1188
02:49:55,270 --> 02:49:58,190
I think we should just stick with the voting.

1189
02:49:59,550 --> 02:50:00,790
I think it's easier.

1190
02:50:01,190 --> 02:50:07,230
It's cleaner and it gives the commissioners

1191
02:50:07,230 --> 02:50:13,330
a more, you'll see who supports the district six.

1192
02:50:13,550 --> 02:50:15,750
I think it's just a fair way to do it.

1193
02:50:16,310 --> 02:50:16,430
Thanks.

1194
02:50:20,120 --> 02:50:22,300
Any other comments before we go to Motion Commissioner Hamilton?

1195
02:50:24,020 --> 02:50:26,980
We saw what happened with the voting when we did the Vice Mayor vote.

1196
02:50:27,340 --> 02:50:31,600
And I believe that there are some people out in the audience who would contend that that was gameed as well.

1197
02:50:33,700 --> 02:50:35,720
So, either way we do it.

1198
02:50:36,140 --> 02:50:37,540
There's potential for risk.

1199
02:50:38,240 --> 02:50:39,940
Obviously, we've done it this way.

1200
02:50:40,120 --> 02:50:41,440
We hired attorneys this way.

1201
02:50:41,820 --> 02:50:43,600
We hired a city manager this way.

1202
02:50:43,600 --> 02:50:52,800
We brought in at least one currently sitting commissioner, as well as two previous in the past four years using the other process.

1203
02:50:54,640 --> 02:50:59,080
So, I agree with Commissioner Villabasca's and Commissioner Gaulwell.

1204
02:51:02,260 --> 02:51:03,040
Commissioner Vasca's.

1205
02:51:04,040 --> 02:51:04,460
Thank you, Mayor.

1206
02:51:04,700 --> 02:51:09,040
In as far as being, it's a public record.

1207
02:51:09,040 --> 02:51:16,220
I don't anybody can request to see who voted for who so it's not like it's a dirty

1208
02:51:17,840 --> 02:51:25,520
or you know use to make illegal or whatever vote.

1209
02:51:25,760 --> 02:51:32,660
The process is you vote one through whatever number of people of there, one, two, three,

1210
02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:36,320
one will be your favorite, two will be your next favorite,

1211
02:51:36,880 --> 02:51:39,860
time will be, I don't want that person, and then they add it up,

1212
02:51:39,980 --> 02:51:43,420
and whoever gets the least means that they were voted number one,

1213
02:51:43,520 --> 02:51:49,020
or number two, that's how it happens, and that's how the person gets

1214
02:51:49,020 --> 02:51:52,240
selected and then I guess made a motion on.

1215
02:51:53,360 --> 02:51:56,000
So we're going to public comment please, because there's nobody else on the board.

1216
02:51:59,920 --> 02:52:01,320
Kathy Bryan, please.

1217
02:52:06,100 --> 02:52:09,000
Ms. Bryan, when you come up to the bottom, just push the bar and so I can open them

1218
02:52:09,000 --> 02:52:11,420
please thank you and then you can leave it on

1219
02:52:18,110 --> 02:52:20,370
tonight okay thank you Kathy

1220
02:52:20,370 --> 02:52:24,790
Brian Deltona I'm not going to disagree with Dory because that was the first

1221
02:52:24,790 --> 02:52:28,110
thing I thought when you talked about the system being gained by rank any

1222
02:52:28,110 --> 02:52:33,530
system can be gained let's face it with the ranking there's a little bit of a

1223
02:52:33,530 --> 02:52:38,890
paper trail and then I think you get a general feeling of more than just one

1224
02:52:39,870 --> 02:52:45,610
person that somebody makes a nomination for quickly and then y'all vote

1225
02:52:45,610 --> 02:52:50,530
You could vote them down, but this gives you at least a couple of options up at the top.

1226
02:52:50,870 --> 02:52:56,630
So if you decide maybe the top options not the best, then you look at the second one.

1227
02:52:58,630 --> 02:53:04,870
I feel like it's a fairer way to do it in a system that sometimes there's just no fair.

1228
02:53:07,040 --> 02:53:14,980
Because I feel like there's already been a lot of Hanky Panky with this one already, just from different things I've read, different things I've seen, et cetera.

1229
02:53:14,980 --> 02:53:37,200
So, that being the case, please leave politics out of this, and I'm saying that to every single one of you and even those of you who say I don't do politics because this day is one of the most divided ones I've seen in a long time.

1230
02:53:37,200 --> 02:53:45,420
And I know we've had others that have been, who is truly going to look after the best interest

1231
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:51,100
of District 6, not what you guys want for everywhere else, not what you want for District 2,

1232
02:53:51,140 --> 02:53:56,280
but not what you want for District 5, not what you want for District 1, who's going to take care

1233
02:53:56,280 --> 02:54:01,500
of District 6 because I really love to see the push to keep Delta in a while to go out there.

1234
02:54:02,660 --> 02:54:10,680
If possible, the other thing is who's the best person for the job, who's got the most

1235
02:54:11,420 --> 02:54:17,820
background, you know, not going to be starting fresh, having to learn a bunch of stuff.

1236
02:54:18,500 --> 02:54:26,640
We all do have to learn, but who's going to be somebody that's had some experience and business

1237
02:54:26,640 --> 02:54:32,040
or in government, et cetera, that can come in and get things done.

1238
02:54:33,160 --> 02:54:37,020
I'm not touting for anyone person at all.

1239
02:54:37,300 --> 02:54:42,840
Half of those people I saw in the list I've never heard of, but think about who's going

1240
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:48,180
to be the best for not just a district six, but for the city as a whole too, because let's

1241
02:54:48,180 --> 02:54:53,420
face it every single one of you votes on things that affect all of our lives.

1242
02:54:53,420 --> 02:55:02,310
So think about that. Think about it hard and made a best person win for the job. Thank you.

1243
02:55:02,950 --> 02:55:05,690
Thank you. Laurie, want to keep please?

1244
02:55:10,170 --> 02:55:16,270
Good evening. I'm Laurie Warner-key and I live in District 6 and I would hope that you all.

1245
02:55:16,530 --> 02:55:19,670
I've met every one of you. I've talked to every one of you.

1246
02:55:20,610 --> 02:55:26,250
I would like you to find someone to replace Nick that stood up like Nick did.

1247
02:55:26,250 --> 02:55:32,130
I felt Nick had our back, all I had to do is email him or text him and he had an answer.

1248
02:55:33,990 --> 02:55:36,170
I appreciate all you're doing.

1249
02:55:36,910 --> 02:55:44,270
I would love to see you come together and put someone in that position that will help

1250
02:55:44,270 --> 02:55:47,370
the residents and that will show up for Piny.

1251
02:55:47,690 --> 02:55:49,070
Thank you.

1252
02:55:49,250 --> 02:55:50,290
Thank you.

1253
02:55:50,750 --> 02:55:51,470
David, so please?

1254
02:56:02,160 --> 02:56:05,160
Dave says a former commissioner for District 6.

1255
02:56:06,360 --> 02:56:10,560
When I heard about Nick's Reg is a nation, I decided I had to step up and fill these last

1256
02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:13,020
15 months before an actual election.

1257
02:56:13,580 --> 02:56:19,280
I think it's important that the people vote for who they want to represent them.

1258
02:56:19,760 --> 02:56:24,300
Unfortunately, during the way this is going to proceed, it's up to you guys to pick who

1259
02:56:24,300 --> 02:56:29,260
would be the best person to represent District 6 in the city as a whole.

1260
02:56:29,260 --> 02:56:37,100
Now, I understand you think the matrix systems flawed, I think the voting just nominate somebody

1261
02:56:37,100 --> 02:56:37,820
and vote on them.

1262
02:56:37,980 --> 02:56:38,800
I think that's flawed.

1263
02:56:39,000 --> 02:56:42,260
I believe the matrix is probably the fairest way to do it.

1264
02:56:42,460 --> 02:56:45,160
Use it, just like Ms. Maruzzo said.

1265
02:56:45,300 --> 02:56:49,540
On a four scale, one to five, if you got five candidates, lowest score wins.

1266
02:56:51,580 --> 02:56:56,660
Now, I look forward to representing and serving the residents of district six.

1267
02:56:57,560 --> 02:56:59,800
Thank you, Brandy White, please.

1268
02:57:03,550 --> 02:57:07,170
Brandy White, I actually didn't plan on speaking on this until we talked about the matrix system.

1269
02:57:07,790 --> 02:57:14,150
And I find it very concerning that two people who admit that they were here due to the matrix system,

1270
02:57:14,530 --> 02:57:18,030
knew that it was flawed at the time, knew that it could be manipulated at the time.

1271
02:57:18,290 --> 02:57:20,110
If they had no problem with it then.

1272
02:57:21,510 --> 02:57:22,110
Thank you.

1273
02:57:22,310 --> 02:57:23,490
Mayor, if that ends public comments.

1274
02:57:25,130 --> 02:57:25,770
Thank you.

1275
02:57:27,410 --> 02:57:27,850
Did

1276
02:57:32,360 --> 02:57:33,560
Mr. Rankham?

1277
02:57:45,280 --> 02:57:46,300
I've got a better patient than he was.

1278
02:57:46,560 --> 02:57:46,960
I was crying.

1279
02:57:49,660 --> 02:57:50,100
Okay.

1280
02:57:51,260 --> 02:57:54,760
You know, any system that y'all make can be gained

1281
02:57:54,760 --> 02:57:56,260
because y'all are politicians.

1282
02:57:57,180 --> 02:57:58,360
But that's the best y'all do it.

1283
02:57:58,360 --> 02:57:58,960
Game and start.

1284
02:57:59,440 --> 02:58:02,500
No matter what it is, we just saw it with the military.

1285
02:58:03,340 --> 02:58:04,620
We just saw that.

1286
02:58:04,680 --> 02:58:06,120
That was all game and ship.

1287
02:58:06,400 --> 02:58:07,680
Nothing more. Nothing less.

1288
02:58:07,680 --> 02:58:11,200
If you don't believe it, then you shouldn't be in that seat.

1289
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:16,140
Here's the thing you really got to think about though.

1290
02:58:16,780 --> 02:58:20,040
If you think it's gaming, then call it out.

1291
02:58:21,360 --> 02:58:24,600
If you really think it's being gained, call it out.

1292
02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:27,840
I went through this process.

1293
02:58:28,880 --> 02:58:31,000
I literally watched this process.

1294
02:58:33,270 --> 02:58:35,090
Did I know who was voting for who prior?

1295
02:58:36,970 --> 02:58:38,610
But I had a good guess.

1296
02:58:38,610 --> 02:58:40,090
And you know what?

1297
02:58:40,110 --> 02:58:48,490
The man that set up there, that I could have been set up there, I signed to you, every meeting he was here, you know why?

1298
02:58:49,150 --> 02:58:53,970
Because it was a craft shot, every shot, it was just a craft shot.

1299
02:58:54,630 --> 02:58:55,130
At best.

1300
02:58:57,170 --> 02:58:58,810
And he knew it.

1301
02:58:58,970 --> 02:59:03,150
He knew that there was personalities up there that just wouldn't let things go.

1302
02:59:03,510 --> 02:59:06,750
I commend Nick for lasting as long as he did.

1303
02:59:06,750 --> 02:59:16,650
He stated it three or four times that y'all won't let him be professional for a commissioner to say that during a meeting

1304
02:59:16,650 --> 02:59:25,070
should mean something to y'all but it doesn't none of y'all and say we got people calling people stupid up there

1305
02:59:26,000 --> 02:59:28,630
That's not professional at all

1306
02:59:30,140 --> 02:59:37,820
It's okay for me to stand here in yellow y'all to call y'all names and or otherwise as a commissioner

1307
02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:48,750
That's my job. That's not your job. I can call you a lazy commissioner. Whether you like it or not, I can.

1308
02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:56,750
It's just the way it is. But do I make it personal against you? No, because I know better.

1309
02:59:57,890 --> 02:59:59,910
But y'all do, y'all make it personal.

1310
03:00:00,050 --> 03:00:10,950
She can attest to it. She was called a hooker by another commissioner at one point in time, and a drunk by that same commissioner.

1311
03:00:13,790 --> 03:00:17,150
That's crazy. That's unprofessionalism.

1312
03:00:18,770 --> 03:00:26,090
So, if you want to gain the system, as you just pointed out, you go ahead, but remember, this isn't for you.

1313
03:00:26,790 --> 03:00:33,450
This is to represent them in district six and to rest of us because what are y'all like it or not?

1314
03:00:33,810 --> 03:00:37,090
Each one of y'all actually represent all of us.

1315
03:00:37,370 --> 03:00:43,250
Because you vote when you vote you vote for all of us because what you do affects all of us.

1316
03:00:45,360 --> 03:00:50,600
So I think my lucky stars every day that I wasn't put up there.

1317
03:00:51,240 --> 03:00:55,180
Because the only man that can tell me I can't say something is him.

1318
03:00:55,620 --> 03:00:59,120
Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. Only he can.

1319
03:01:01,960 --> 03:01:06,180
And I'll get out of line that often. What if what I say? I don't need to.

1320
03:01:07,020 --> 03:01:14,560
There's no reason for me to do. You're a mayor. You're a vice mayor. You're a commissioners. You're a commissioners. Act like it. But once.

1321
03:01:16,060 --> 03:01:20,420
It's easy to gain any system, it always has always will be.

1322
03:01:21,140 --> 03:01:24,720
You can go down to 7-11 and even gain the lottery nowadays.

1323
03:01:25,280 --> 03:01:27,080
It's all over the internet.

1324
03:01:27,320 --> 03:01:30,700
You can gain that by throwing an AI system and having check all the numbers.

1325
03:01:31,040 --> 03:01:31,740
It's fairly easy.

1326
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:33,800
All the common numbers always come up.

1327
03:01:34,720 --> 03:01:38,100
Whether you win the big one is not still the question, but you can still gain it.

1328
03:01:38,520 --> 03:01:43,220
At the end of the day, the only thing I should be important to you is, is this person

1329
03:01:43,220 --> 03:01:47,780
going to represent the people, not you, not your politics, the people.

1330
03:01:49,340 --> 03:01:51,260
Thank you, Mayor, that in public comments.

1331
03:01:54,360 --> 03:01:55,640
Vice Mayor Harry, you're up.

1332
03:01:56,800 --> 03:01:57,200
Thank you, Mayor.

1333
03:01:58,160 --> 03:02:10,620
I feel we need to clarify that it wasn't until the last few weeks that it was apparent that this process is

1334
03:02:14,120 --> 03:02:23,260
manipulable and so it's, I think more transparent for us to have a conversation,

1335
03:02:25,460 --> 03:02:25,780
have somebody

1336
03:02:25,780 --> 03:02:31,120
make a motion, have discussion on that person and then move forward with a vote rather

1337
03:02:31,120 --> 03:02:34,460
than hide behind a matrix that

1338
03:02:37,210 --> 03:02:38,610
can cover a whole lot.

1339
03:02:42,290 --> 03:02:47,090
Right, does anybody want to make a motion and a second commissioner reveal the last question?

1340
03:02:47,090 --> 03:02:56,330
I make a motion to keep the form that we are currently using to select the next District 6 Commissioner.

1341
03:02:57,290 --> 03:02:58,370
Sir, a second.

1342
03:03:02,580 --> 03:03:05,320
Can you click on your good Commissioner number?

1343
03:03:05,640 --> 03:03:05,920
Second.

1344
03:03:07,120 --> 03:03:11,100
All right. We have a motion on the floor in a second. Can we please vote?

1345
03:03:28,930 --> 03:03:30,230
Motion passes 42.

1346
03:03:31,630 --> 03:03:34,030
So that is the system we're going to use.

1347
03:03:34,030 --> 03:03:39,030
All right, we're going to go to the consent agenda item. Is there any public comment and consent agenda?

1348
03:03:39,290 --> 03:03:39,990
Mayor, if you don't mind.

1349
03:03:41,250 --> 03:03:44,590
Mayor, just want to correct as the attorney and I are talking about it.

1350
03:03:44,930 --> 03:03:51,130
Recommendation by the commission, we put out the application in the next day or two so that you know what you're looking at.

1351
03:03:51,830 --> 03:03:53,050
The process, not just.

1352
03:03:53,570 --> 03:03:54,770
Okay, so we'll put something else.

1353
03:03:54,790 --> 03:03:59,330
We have until the 30th is done, I correct. We have a limit on a date.

1354
03:04:00,270 --> 03:04:02,090
30 days from the moment of resignation.

1355
03:04:02,610 --> 03:04:03,550
for the charter.

1356
03:04:04,590 --> 03:04:04,610
Yes.

1357
03:04:06,970 --> 03:04:08,610
I just go ahead city attorney.

1358
03:04:08,730 --> 03:04:09,450
Have a clarification.

1359
03:04:09,930 --> 03:04:10,410
Go ahead.

1360
03:04:10,750 --> 03:04:11,470
I'd like to make.

1361
03:04:12,190 --> 03:04:13,090
Is that.

1362
03:04:14,070 --> 03:04:15,370
Even through this process.

1363
03:04:16,110 --> 03:04:17,050
That doesn't.

1364
03:04:17,170 --> 03:04:17,610
Automatically.

1365
03:04:18,770 --> 03:04:18,970
Okay.

1366
03:04:19,030 --> 03:04:19,810
That's the clarification.

1367
03:04:20,030 --> 03:04:20,330
I want to.

1368
03:04:20,370 --> 03:04:23,790
I want to have is that it doesn't automatically assume that that person will be.

1369
03:04:23,790 --> 03:04:24,430
Started upon.

1370
03:04:24,690 --> 03:04:26,790
We still have to vote at the end of the process.

1371
03:04:27,270 --> 03:04:29,430
But correct me from on that is a charter requirement.

1372
03:04:29,670 --> 03:04:31,910
So do the matrix and then we vote for that person.

1373
03:04:33,250 --> 03:04:40,330
So, not the matrix part, but the voting part is a chart voting is a requirement of the sunshine,

1374
03:04:41,650 --> 03:04:43,710
that prohibits secret ballots.

1375
03:04:44,870 --> 03:04:51,970
And for clarification, 30 days from August 27th, which was the date of the email that was sent,

1376
03:04:53,030 --> 03:04:59,090
is Saturday, September 26th, 2026 or 25th.

1377
03:04:59,090 --> 03:05:05,550
I mean, I'm sure we can get to this a little bit later, but I'm sure the commission will be okay with doing the meeting.

1378
03:05:07,230 --> 03:05:09,170
We have the next meeting, the 20.

1379
03:05:11,310 --> 03:05:17,330
Yeah, so you'll have one schedule for the on the 22nd for your budget.

1380
03:05:18,370 --> 03:05:30,090
And then after the 26th since that does fall on a weekend, you could do that on the 29th the Monday if the 22nd doesn't provide enough time.

1381
03:05:30,750 --> 03:05:33,290
to get enough applications in.

1382
03:05:33,590 --> 03:05:37,370
Okay, I guess you and the city manager will get with us on that.

1383
03:05:38,190 --> 03:05:38,190
City,

1384
03:05:41,250 --> 03:05:42,450
Robin, sure.

1385
03:05:43,170 --> 03:05:43,910
Good city quick.

1386
03:05:44,250 --> 03:05:46,950
So right now there's no meeting schedules for the 29th.

1387
03:05:46,950 --> 03:05:48,190
It's the 5th Monday.

1388
03:05:50,310 --> 03:05:52,790
We do have this special meeting on the 22nd.

1389
03:05:53,490 --> 03:05:55,470
We could do before after that.

1390
03:06:01,440 --> 03:06:03,320
And then we'd need a deadline for the ad.

1391
03:06:03,500 --> 03:06:04,500
Like how long do you want us to advertise?

1392
03:06:04,640 --> 03:06:05,860
If we get it out the next couple of days,

1393
03:06:05,860 --> 03:06:08,940
if you want the deadline to be like Friday the 19th?

1394
03:06:14,720 --> 03:06:16,320
We can start to figure it out.

1395
03:06:16,560 --> 03:06:18,020
That should put in the 20 second to give time.

1396
03:06:18,260 --> 03:06:21,440
People enough time to apply, give them a couple of weeks.

1397
03:06:21,760 --> 03:06:22,220
We can have.

1398
03:06:22,460 --> 03:06:24,600
I think we've done two weeks in the past.

1399
03:06:25,580 --> 03:06:25,940
Roughly.

1400
03:06:26,460 --> 03:06:27,740
Let me commission you have to decide that night.

1401
03:06:27,800 --> 03:06:28,900
We're going to be able to be able to be patients.

1402
03:06:31,180 --> 03:06:31,400
OK.

1403
03:06:32,420 --> 03:06:33,600
Public comment and consent agenda.

1404
03:06:42,050 --> 03:06:42,830
Oh, I got you.

1405
03:06:43,270 --> 03:06:44,310
Matthew Bergen's, please.

1406
03:06:48,490 --> 03:06:49,570
This is where just when you come up.

1407
03:06:49,690 --> 03:06:51,890
Just make sure you click on the mic so I can open the microphone.

1408
03:06:59,420 --> 03:06:59,780
UPS?

1409
03:07:08,860 --> 03:07:19,120
So I was looking over the UPS in the agenda items, and I see it's for 29,000, just below 30,000, and it's for similar county.

1410
03:07:19,800 --> 03:07:24,220
I see that we're going off with theirs, and so we're not using the RFP.

1411
03:07:24,840 --> 03:07:33,740
I see that we also have a company that we used to look up other things, so I'm just inquiring to see if we can look for other quotes that make sure they're out there.

1412
03:07:33,740 --> 03:07:39,540
I know Seminole County looked for other quotes, so maybe we can use that and so we can

1413
03:07:39,540 --> 03:07:43,580
see without there versus just going off with Seminole County has, I know they have different

1414
03:07:43,580 --> 03:07:49,860
infrastructure than what we have. So that's kind of the what we're looking at. So if you see

1415
03:07:49,860 --> 03:07:57,700
they're using Seminole County's RFP, I know we have companies that the state uses. I've used it in

1416
03:07:57,700 --> 03:08:04,060
I've used it in Advent Health, I use it with the state of Florida, and they can get contracts.

1417
03:08:06,280 --> 03:08:08,160
So that's what I'm inquiring about.

1418
03:08:08,300 --> 03:08:14,800
I know it's 29,999, I think $79 is what we're quoted for for the proposal.

1419
03:08:16,860 --> 03:08:21,700
And so, like I said, I'm just seeing if the IT department, I was talking to them during the break,

1420
03:08:22,140 --> 03:08:23,880
and we had a conversation about it.

1421
03:08:23,880 --> 03:08:30,380
It looks like a really nice, a backup system for the IT, but

1422
03:08:30,380 --> 03:08:41,140
Is what you a similar county using for is that good for Delta and is it going meet all of our needs because I see ours is 15 years old, but there are a peos for similar county

1423
03:08:42,560 --> 03:08:45,060
So that's like said just getting something for

1424
03:08:45,740 --> 03:08:51,160
Make sure the quote we have in is a sufficient for what we're using that's all I'm asking

1425
03:08:52,080 --> 03:08:58,340
I see it's $10,000 less than what we call it for as well, so I know we're talking about budget items earlier.

1426
03:08:58,840 --> 03:08:59,680
That's $10,000 saved.

1427
03:09:03,400 --> 03:09:04,360
Thank you.

1428
03:09:04,580 --> 03:09:05,600
Allison Root, please.

1429
03:09:18,500 --> 03:09:20,540
Hello, Allison Root, Delta owner resident.

1430
03:09:21,480 --> 03:09:23,840
I had a question regarding the waste per contract.

1431
03:09:24,080 --> 03:09:29,360
So the way it states is all residents are required to use waste per for dumpsters as well.

1432
03:09:29,360 --> 03:09:35,640
So I get, they do, no, don't give me wrong, I love waste pro, they do great on pickups and

1433
03:09:35,640 --> 03:09:39,720
things, the debris, they got mine last year, everything works well.

1434
03:09:40,100 --> 03:09:47,400
My problem comes in that we are now as citizens contracted with waste pro for $588 for

1435
03:09:47,400 --> 03:09:49,020
a 20-year-old roll-off.

1436
03:09:49,140 --> 03:09:54,180
So if I had the image to my home and I need to re-roof, according to your permitting department

1437
03:09:54,180 --> 03:09:58,880
when I pull my permit, I have to call waste pro and use whatever they say use.

1438
03:09:59,540 --> 03:10:05,020
And if it's according to that exhibit e, then it's $588 for a 20 yard dumpster. So if I'm

1439
03:10:05,020 --> 03:10:10,700
cleaning out my house from flooding or regrouping or anything like that, have to use waves pro.

1440
03:10:11,240 --> 03:10:16,560
So my question is, are those contracted rates the same for residents? Because I'm not

1441
03:10:16,560 --> 03:10:22,060
signing that contract, or is it just for you guys? And they give me just this competitive

1442
03:10:22,060 --> 03:10:27,420
break because I can get dumpsters for anywhere from $250 to $400 depending on who I use and

1443
03:10:27,420 --> 03:10:35,020
wear a mat. So that's my only question. Thank you. Thank you. Brandy White, please.

1444
03:10:39,920 --> 03:10:44,420
Brandy White, don't tell me I also want to talk about the waste pro contract. I noticed here

1445
03:10:44,420 --> 03:10:49,900
that it says that waste pro has requested the city consider an additional increase.

1446
03:10:51,560 --> 03:10:54,800
So it's only taking your consideration. They're not saying it has to occur.

1447
03:10:55,500 --> 03:11:04,020
I also would like to discuss the numbers that are presented like the 13 percent increase over the previous year.

1448
03:11:04,620 --> 03:11:10,560
I noticed that it talks about the CPI adjustments as well as the fuel cost.

1449
03:11:11,020 --> 03:11:17,260
All of that was already built into that seven year contract previous that was being requested to be extended.

1450
03:11:18,040 --> 03:11:22,680
If you go back and watch the meeting from back then all of that was addressed in that contract.

1451
03:11:23,500 --> 03:11:29,200
I personally would like to see Deltone's P&L on Wayspro.

1452
03:11:29,540 --> 03:11:34,580
I think there's a lot more profit, and that this increases it necessary.

1453
03:11:36,340 --> 03:11:44,520
I also did a little bit of research on Wayspro because I was a little concerned that they are so involved in our local elections.

1454
03:11:45,600 --> 03:11:50,240
They like to do campaign donations to certain candidates who are going to vote on their contract.

1455
03:11:50,240 --> 03:11:52,120
It's a lot of us call that a bought vote.

1456
03:11:54,140 --> 03:12:00,040
I'm a little concerned that looking at the history of campaign donations, it's very specific.

1457
03:12:00,800 --> 03:12:02,820
And anybody can go on there and look at those.

1458
03:12:03,480 --> 03:12:05,780
It's not just, say, hey, we do it across the board.

1459
03:12:06,020 --> 03:12:08,820
These are not personal people donating.

1460
03:12:09,200 --> 03:12:15,720
It's literally an entity that is donating to the campaigns of local elections that they

1461
03:12:15,720 --> 03:12:16,880
have contracts in.

1462
03:12:17,500 --> 03:12:18,280
That's concerning.

1463
03:12:20,420 --> 03:12:28,580
I think it's very unethical for somebody to come before you who has put money into your campaign and ask you to vote for them.

1464
03:12:29,140 --> 03:12:31,900
I don't know why you wouldn't have a problem with that.

1465
03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:35,420
The numbers don't add up.

1466
03:12:35,780 --> 03:12:37,440
There is not a loss in Deltona.

1467
03:12:37,760 --> 03:12:41,020
There's already a substantial profit being brought in on Deltona.

1468
03:12:41,440 --> 03:12:46,680
And to increase it 13.23% over the previous year for the one-year contract.

1469
03:12:49,800 --> 03:12:55,940
I mean, do we have to go back and talk about how everybody said, oh, it's only a 6% increase,

1470
03:12:56,180 --> 03:12:59,400
or it's a small decrease when we talked about marriage?

1471
03:13:01,020 --> 03:13:02,820
Well, here's another one you're doing.

1472
03:13:03,220 --> 03:13:07,320
You're going to improve an additional increase that's going to hit.

1473
03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:11,000
When we're talking about taking waste out of the budget, this is one of them.

1474
03:13:11,000 --> 03:13:13,340
It's saying that they just want you to consider it.

1475
03:13:13,540 --> 03:13:15,640
So I want you to consider saying no.

1476
03:13:17,020 --> 03:13:19,240
Thank you. May I that close by the comments?

1477
03:13:20,300 --> 03:13:24,300
All right. We're going to go to a vote on somebody who wants to pull one of the items.

1478
03:13:24,580 --> 03:13:27,480
So I'm looking for a motion and.

1479
03:13:28,280 --> 03:13:30,300
Go ahead. Commissioner Colwell.

1480
03:13:30,500 --> 03:13:31,520
I'd like to pull out a mark.

1481
03:13:32,780 --> 03:13:32,820
Okay.

1482
03:13:35,640 --> 03:13:35,920
Can we.

1483
03:13:36,080 --> 03:13:37,620
Vice Mayor Harriet your next.

1484
03:13:43,360 --> 03:13:43,800
Vice Mayor.

1485
03:13:43,900 --> 03:13:44,860
I hear you're sorry, Mayor.

1486
03:13:46,300 --> 03:13:46,700
Okay.

1487
03:13:46,700 --> 03:13:54,140
I'd like to make a motion with one change to item D is the UPS item.

1488
03:13:54,720 --> 03:13:57,920
I would like to, I like that item.

1489
03:13:58,040 --> 03:14:00,860
I would like to approve the dollar amount and not to exceed.

1490
03:14:01,280 --> 03:14:06,980
But I'd like to give flexibility to staff to look into what the resident brought to.

1491
03:14:07,100 --> 03:14:10,180
So let's just pull that item and then you can make a motion for the rest.

1492
03:14:10,800 --> 03:14:14,940
So that's item D isn't David and ours and Romeo are being pulled.

1493
03:14:16,880 --> 03:14:18,680
So please proceed with the motion.

1494
03:14:19,140 --> 03:14:24,880
I'd like to make a motion to approve consent agenda items A through C.

1495
03:14:27,380 --> 03:14:30,100
S with the exception of D and R.

1496
03:14:30,320 --> 03:14:30,900
Or you can do that.

1497
03:14:32,040 --> 03:14:34,060
And now I'll entertain you in a second.

1498
03:14:36,630 --> 03:14:37,470
Commissioner Santiago.

1499
03:14:39,250 --> 03:14:39,550
All right.

1500
03:14:39,710 --> 03:14:40,850
Can we please vote?

1501
03:14:49,360 --> 03:14:51,080
We should pass this five to one.

1502
03:14:51,500 --> 03:14:54,820
This time we're going to return to item D by smearing it up because that's when you pulled.

1503
03:14:55,100 --> 03:14:57,060
I'd like to make a motion to approve.

1504
03:15:00,530 --> 03:15:20,170
Item 8D, excuse me, with an amount not to exceed 229,977233, but also provide flexibility to staff to double check and make sure that they can't get a better deal.

1505
03:15:20,170 --> 03:15:24,230
Okay, there's a motion by Vice Mayor Harry, it is in the second.

1506
03:15:28,250 --> 03:15:29,130
Commissioner Sanciago.

1507
03:15:29,350 --> 03:15:30,390
Thank you.

1508
03:15:30,390 --> 03:15:33,050
There's a motion in the second. Please vote.

1509
03:15:33,710 --> 03:15:34,190
City Attorney.

1510
03:15:36,110 --> 03:15:38,810
Yes, Mr. Mayor, just if the.

1511
03:15:38,810 --> 03:15:43,190
I'd like to propose an amended resolution title for this to reflect the intent.

1512
03:15:43,370 --> 03:15:47,850
This would be a resolution of the city of Delta on the Florida authorizing the city manager or

1513
03:15:47,850 --> 03:15:54,410
to approve the purchase of an uninterruptible power supply UPS and related equipment at City Hall

1514
03:15:54,410 --> 03:16:02,610
from on computer services LLC or another vendor to be determined pursuant to a piggyback

1515
03:16:02,610 --> 03:16:08,050
of Seminal County RFP 603794-20-BJC

1516
03:16:09,290 --> 03:16:19,750
or any other similar solicitation

1517
03:16:20,150 --> 03:16:27,110
in an amount not to exceed 29,972 dollars and 33 cents.

1518
03:16:27,630 --> 03:16:29,970
Providing for implementation and an effective date.

1519
03:16:54,010 --> 03:16:55,370
Motion passes six to zero.

1520
03:16:55,370 --> 03:16:59,370
at this time Commissioner Colwell, if you can turn on your mic, we're going to go to

1521
03:17:00,450 --> 03:17:03,450
ours and Romeo. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Commissioner Colwell, you're on.

1522
03:17:04,310 --> 03:17:10,130
I have a question for legal or city managers, start out with, I know our contracts get

1523
03:17:10,130 --> 03:17:16,370
going to expire in a few weeks. If this was tabled or not passed today, would we have

1524
03:17:16,370 --> 03:17:19,070
opportunity to time before that to put it on a meeting?

1525
03:17:24,740 --> 03:17:25,960
So,

1526
03:17:29,520 --> 03:17:37,520
because the solid waste fees are assessed through a special assessment, the last date

1527
03:17:37,520 --> 03:17:45,780
that those assessments can be enacted is the September 15th meeting, so you would need

1528
03:17:45,780 --> 03:17:52,580
to have an agreement on price so that that could be properly charged through the assessments

1529
03:17:52,580 --> 03:18:02,040
by September 15th. If there are other negotiable items that you would like for staff to address,

1530
03:18:02,840 --> 03:18:14,920
you can approve the price and provide direction to staff to continue negotiation on those

1531
03:18:14,920 --> 03:18:22,420
other items and come back. But the September 15th is kind of your deadline as well as the price.

1532
03:18:22,580 --> 03:18:31,900
I have concerns mostly about, you know, well, the increase obviously in what we're losing for that increase as far as administration fees.

1533
03:18:33,980 --> 03:18:44,840
I know a lot of that was taken out and a lot of the responsibility of the waste pro as far as marking containers and their equipment that they use.

1534
03:18:44,840 --> 03:18:51,220
the extension of the life of the vehicles extended in the contract. So I have great concerns about that.

1535
03:18:54,500 --> 03:19:00,760
So I would like to make a motion to table this until the September 15th meeting.

1536
03:19:01,480 --> 03:19:06,380
Motion by Commissioner, call while to table to September 15th meeting.

1537
03:19:06,880 --> 03:19:10,700
Second, second by Commissioner Villabascos. Please vote.

1538
03:19:12,360 --> 03:19:15,400
I want to connect to that motion.

1539
03:19:16,780 --> 03:19:21,680
I'll leave direct staff to work with Mr. Redmond.

1540
03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:22,680
Key, please.

1541
03:19:24,540 --> 03:19:25,940
Good try your second.

1542
03:19:27,460 --> 03:19:29,320
Commission, we'll be in the next place.

1543
03:19:31,620 --> 03:19:32,600
Yeah, okay, go ahead, commissioner.

1544
03:19:33,060 --> 03:19:38,740
I would like to have staff work with Mr. Redmond and negotiate in these terms.

1545
03:19:42,160 --> 03:19:45,060
And I don't know if we could be able to have Mr. Redmond come up and speak.

1546
03:19:50,000 --> 03:19:51,940
Maybe Mayor if we could have staff speak also.

1547
03:19:53,880 --> 03:19:54,260
City Attorney?

1548
03:19:55,000 --> 03:20:00,420
Yeah, so you may certainly invite Mr. Redmond up to speak if you'd like.

1549
03:20:00,660 --> 03:20:01,200
After we vote?

1550
03:20:01,700 --> 03:20:03,260
I, yes.

1551
03:20:03,660 --> 03:20:09,100
And I guess as far as the tabling and the direction,

1552
03:20:09,100 --> 03:20:19,880
Do you want to clarify, you are directing the city manager to also include Mr. Redmond and

1553
03:20:19,880 --> 03:20:22,580
contract with Mr. Redmond for those services?

1554
03:20:23,620 --> 03:20:25,840
Would that increase your fees?

1555
03:20:26,000 --> 03:20:28,240
That would increase our fees.

1556
03:20:29,640 --> 03:20:31,860
I mean, it would, yeah, it would go ahead.

1557
03:20:31,860 --> 03:20:36,940
Energy would need to have a budget established that he could pull that front.

1558
03:20:36,940 --> 03:20:40,080
But can you please work on the mic?

1559
03:20:42,140 --> 03:20:42,480
It's on.

1560
03:20:42,900 --> 03:20:46,420
So again, those fees would increase some because obviously we

1561
03:20:46,420 --> 03:20:47,500
have to pay Mr. Redbeam.

1562
03:20:47,640 --> 03:20:50,600
Again, we had a contractor originally with him.

1563
03:20:50,640 --> 03:20:53,380
So yes, those fees would have to be added in in some form

1564
03:20:53,380 --> 03:20:54,360
away and paid.

1565
03:20:54,840 --> 03:20:58,240
The other thing is the conversations that we've had with waste

1566
03:20:58,240 --> 03:21:01,280
problems, some of the items that we took out of that was the

1567
03:21:01,280 --> 03:21:04,220
knowledge meant that as we take those items out of the budget,

1568
03:21:06,560 --> 03:21:12,420
When those items are being issued as a citation, I'll call it that for better terminology right now.

1569
03:21:13,380 --> 03:21:15,920
Those items are so added back in the next year in the contract.

1570
03:21:16,480 --> 03:21:20,780
So you may not be paying for that now, so we'll have a citation of 3500.

1571
03:21:20,920 --> 03:21:23,420
We reduce the invoice coming in.

1572
03:21:23,620 --> 03:21:26,920
But next year, all those different citations are taken into account.

1573
03:21:27,160 --> 03:21:29,700
It's the cost of doing business and looking at that contract.

1574
03:21:29,700 --> 03:21:36,600
So, although those may have seemed credible in the sense of being charged initially, we don't

1575
03:21:36,600 --> 03:21:40,920
see that with working and looking at the contract that just to keep adding those back

1576
03:21:40,920 --> 03:21:42,700
in, you're over years as an advantage.

1577
03:21:43,640 --> 03:21:49,680
And then the other thing I would say is negotiations and conversation, our expected number, if

1578
03:21:49,680 --> 03:21:55,220
you want to look at the 13% or whatever it might be, we were still lower than our initial

1579
03:21:55,220 --> 03:22:00,460
conversations with Mr. Reben and reference to what he believed he could get for us.

1580
03:22:00,860 --> 03:22:05,040
That was the only reason that we went out and worked with waste pro and our own, our own,

1581
03:22:05,040 --> 03:22:07,000
so we're very comfortable to ask.

1582
03:22:07,000 --> 03:22:11,300
That's not so much as far as the cost at the end, but the accountability for them to do what

1583
03:22:11,300 --> 03:22:16,000
they're supposed to do under a contract. Without having any administrative fees in there,

1584
03:22:16,040 --> 03:22:16,740
they're not.

1585
03:22:16,960 --> 03:22:21,600
They're still accountable for the contract. They're still accountable. We still have a customer

1586
03:22:21,600 --> 03:22:22,280
service person.

1587
03:22:22,900 --> 03:22:26,340
There's a lot of other accountable on which way there's no cost to that effect, if they

1588
03:22:26,340 --> 03:22:26,740
violate.

1589
03:22:27,340 --> 03:22:28,460
There's always a cost to it.

1590
03:22:28,460 --> 03:22:32,420
If they don't do what they're asking, that we ask them to do is from a contract perspective,

1591
03:22:32,820 --> 03:22:37,280
there's always the opportunity for us to cancel the contract, to go out to bid for the

1592
03:22:37,280 --> 03:22:39,600
contract, to not renew it at the end of seven years.

1593
03:22:39,940 --> 03:22:43,620
You as a commission hold that option going forward into the next year.

1594
03:22:44,060 --> 03:22:48,580
But to just say that we're okay with those fees continuing when we're one of, I don't know,

1595
03:22:48,620 --> 03:22:50,720
two cities that we actually do that.

1596
03:22:50,720 --> 03:22:55,280
maybe three at the most doesn't seem like it's beneficial for everyone to do that.

1597
03:22:55,500 --> 03:22:57,300
So they're not looking at it from that perspective.

1598
03:22:58,060 --> 03:23:01,440
I think Mayor and Commission may be a couple of the fees we're talking about.

1599
03:23:01,960 --> 03:23:07,280
So if the trucks brought in from another city that we need backup and they don't tell us

1600
03:23:07,280 --> 03:23:10,440
in advance it's the same waste road truck then there's a fee charge to the waste

1601
03:23:10,440 --> 03:23:11,100
bro.

1602
03:23:11,260 --> 03:23:15,000
I don't think we should have a fee charge to them by trying to make sure they do the job.

1603
03:23:15,800 --> 03:23:19,760
There's a cleanliness on the truck if the truck looks too dirty then there's a fee

1604
03:23:19,760 --> 03:23:24,860
charged, and ways for themselves, it's said to us, we know you're charging these fees, and

1605
03:23:24,860 --> 03:23:26,160
I'm not going to eat the fees themselves.

1606
03:23:26,880 --> 03:23:31,980
So, why are we charging fees for such minor, missed, missed streets, missed garbage?

1607
03:23:33,060 --> 03:23:33,180
Yes.

1608
03:23:33,180 --> 03:23:34,320
And they have to pay those fees.

1609
03:23:34,400 --> 03:23:35,640
They're absolutely going to pay the fees.

1610
03:23:36,140 --> 03:23:39,000
But it seems like there's a lot of nickel and dime that was going on.

1611
03:23:39,180 --> 03:23:43,060
That seems insignificant in the overall scope of picking up garbage.

1612
03:23:43,580 --> 03:23:45,360
And we are going to be paying those fees.

1613
03:23:45,480 --> 03:23:47,300
That's like saying tariffs aren't charged to the consumers.

1614
03:23:47,300 --> 03:23:51,800
Yes, we're going to pay those fees, they're not paying it themselves, so there are things

1615
03:23:51,800 --> 03:23:55,780
that we did remove, but by no means that we removed the ability to actually charge them

1616
03:23:55,780 --> 03:23:59,360
for missing garbage cans or missing streets, which I think is what most people are concerned

1617
03:23:59,880 --> 03:24:00,280
about.

1618
03:24:01,160 --> 03:24:05,200
Well, I mean, taking that out takes out the incentive for them to do the right job, I think.

1619
03:24:06,160 --> 03:24:06,780
That's my opinion.

1620
03:24:07,220 --> 03:24:12,460
I like to continue with my motion of table, I don't know if necessary to have Mr. Redmond

1621
03:24:12,460 --> 03:24:14,760
involved in it at this point, but I'd like to see some

1622
03:24:14,760 --> 03:24:18,440
administration fees talked about in a little more further

1623
03:24:18,440 --> 03:24:19,180
depth.

1624
03:24:19,660 --> 03:24:22,040
So that you're looking at asking us to look at the contract,

1625
03:24:22,200 --> 03:24:25,560
the content of the contract and the fees not to

1626
03:24:25,560 --> 03:24:27,180
exact point any of the other items.

1627
03:24:30,930 --> 03:24:31,490
I'm going.

1628
03:24:34,300 --> 03:24:36,200
Yeah, I guess just for a so-for clarification,

1629
03:24:36,360 --> 03:24:41,160
you're looking to table this, to have staff look at adding

1630
03:24:41,160 --> 03:24:43,700
back in some of the administrative fees that we're

1631
03:24:43,700 --> 03:24:46,200
taking out with this amended and restated to

1632
03:24:46,200 --> 03:24:48,320
more to the previous.

1633
03:24:48,520 --> 03:24:52,020
Let's correct, and there's also some verbiages that is incorrect in this far.

1634
03:24:53,000 --> 03:24:56,440
Location of the gallons, the size, the containers.

1635
03:24:59,640 --> 03:25:07,360
Yeah, we can take a look at those items and double check as far as the terminology.

1636
03:25:07,640 --> 03:25:09,260
I'll continue with my motion to table.

1637
03:25:09,820 --> 03:25:12,400
Okay, we got a commission or a view of Asco as that's next.

1638
03:25:12,960 --> 03:25:14,420
Let me turn on your mic, give me a minute.

1639
03:25:14,920 --> 03:25:15,500
There you go.

1640
03:25:15,500 --> 03:25:22,320
Thank you, Mayor. So yes, I will continue with my second motion and but I also have a

1641
03:25:22,320 --> 03:25:22,960
or request

1642
03:25:22,960 --> 03:25:25,160
can you add

1643
03:25:25,160 --> 03:25:27,300
to the

1644
03:25:27,300 --> 03:25:33,460
the staff request? I would like to see the difference between last contract and this contract?

1645
03:25:33,680 --> 03:25:38,900
What was removed? What kind of services were removed? That will affect the residents?

1646
03:25:40,300 --> 03:25:43,780
So I would like to see that as far as the

1647
03:25:43,780 --> 03:25:53,060
services that we provide now and what will not be provided going forward with the change of this contract.

1648
03:25:56,310 --> 03:26:01,770
It's my understanding that the services will remain the same that you will have the same level of service,

1649
03:26:02,230 --> 03:26:06,710
but certainly your staff can provide that as part of the revised staff report.

1650
03:26:06,710 --> 03:26:26,530
Okay, but there are changes to the contract, this year versus the contract last year, which will affect the residents, as far as a number of trucks out there, there need to be out there to service, stops and stuff like that.

1651
03:26:26,850 --> 03:26:31,790
It's my understanding again that it's the same level of service, but I will certainly your staff.

1652
03:26:31,910 --> 03:26:33,090
Yes, any changes?

1653
03:26:33,090 --> 03:26:35,190
Can identify that for you?

1654
03:26:35,470 --> 03:26:41,710
Yes, any changes now versus going forward that will affect the residents of the city of Daytona in

1655
03:26:41,710 --> 03:26:46,090
every aspect of the garbage area. Thank you.

1656
03:26:46,910 --> 03:26:48,530
Vice Mayor Hurrier.

1657
03:26:48,950 --> 03:26:49,490
Thank you, Mayor.

1658
03:26:50,230 --> 03:27:01,510
Have we looked at what the impact to the contract rate would be if we add in all of the enforcement mechanisms that were removed?

1659
03:27:04,900 --> 03:27:09,320
Mr. Redmond, please give us a second order still waiting for staff.

1660
03:27:11,660 --> 03:27:18,000
And then I would also like to know it's my understanding that I believe Orange City and

1661
03:27:18,000 --> 03:27:24,160
possibly to Barry have also signed contracts with WastePro or planning on signing contracts

1662
03:27:24,160 --> 03:27:30,180
with WastePro after going out to RFP and what those, how we compared to those contracts rates.

1663
03:27:32,200 --> 03:27:39,040
So, yes, we did receive, I mean, we received the assess cost, if you would like, like I said,

1664
03:27:39,220 --> 03:27:43,640
I referred to it, citations earlier, we'd have to break down each of those to look at the cost

1665
03:27:43,640 --> 03:27:48,900
that would continue to be part of the assess cost because it would be true by citations versus

1666
03:27:48,900 --> 03:27:50,500
some of the others that we looked at.

1667
03:27:50,700 --> 03:27:55,440
So we'd have to do a breakdown for that for you, but in conversation with Wayspro, definitely

1668
03:27:55,440 --> 03:28:02,400
some of those costs that are assessed, that we typically reduce the bill by and then provide

1669
03:28:02,400 --> 03:28:07,100
to waste pro and their acknowledge it and recognize it and then when they look at it they're

1670
03:28:07,100 --> 03:28:11,360
like okay so these are the dollars we would add to the next year contract so I'm sure that

1671
03:28:12,180 --> 03:28:16,660
waste pro may have some of those numbers available to them at some point so we'll get with them just

1672
03:28:16,660 --> 03:28:21,820
to give it a rough estimate. So we're hearing sorry to take off what I'm hearing is that if we add back

1673
03:28:21,820 --> 03:28:25,300
and these enforcement mechanisms that we're taking out

1674
03:28:25,300 --> 03:28:27,600
is that the contract rate will go up.

1675
03:28:27,600 --> 03:28:28,000
That's correct.

1676
03:28:28,000 --> 03:28:30,280
And instead of the 13% it will be higher.

1677
03:28:30,420 --> 03:28:31,300
That would be correct.

1678
03:28:33,560 --> 03:28:35,240
Did you have another question I don't recall?

1679
03:28:35,500 --> 03:28:35,740
I'm sorry.

1680
03:28:36,500 --> 03:28:37,020
It was.

1681
03:28:37,480 --> 03:28:40,400
How do there's a negotiated contract rate

1682
03:28:40,400 --> 03:28:43,280
compared to the municipalities that have gone out for an RFP?

1683
03:28:43,340 --> 03:28:44,800
John, do you recall the exact percentages?

1684
03:28:46,120 --> 03:28:52,320
I believe Orange City was, they've gone out as well as the barrier.

1685
03:28:52,320 --> 03:28:54,400
I'm not sure if they're both finished, I believe it won't

1686
03:28:54,400 --> 03:28:56,380
city, but wait for OK to answer that question for you

1687
03:28:56,380 --> 03:28:58,820
and give you the numbers if they have this available for them.

1688
03:28:59,080 --> 03:29:00,200
And they are here in the audience.

1689
03:29:01,160 --> 03:29:01,840
Thank you.

1690
03:29:03,990 --> 03:29:04,330
Good.

1691
03:29:04,670 --> 03:29:04,790
Good.

1692
03:29:04,790 --> 03:29:04,870
Good.

1693
03:29:06,130 --> 03:29:06,350
Good.

1694
03:29:06,350 --> 03:29:06,450
Good.

1695
03:29:10,830 --> 03:29:10,850
Good.

1696
03:29:10,850 --> 03:29:12,410
when you were making that presentation.

1697
03:29:13,470 --> 03:29:17,090
You did mention that the city of Dalton and negotiated.

1698
03:29:21,070 --> 03:29:26,050
Negotiated and it was less than what was proposed by Mr. Redmond.

1699
03:29:26,430 --> 03:29:26,810
Is that correct?

1700
03:29:27,290 --> 03:29:29,230
So we did work with them quite a bit

1701
03:29:29,230 --> 03:29:32,330
on looking at the numbers that a type of service.

1702
03:29:33,230 --> 03:29:35,290
Mr. Redmond's were just the initial numbers.

1703
03:29:36,230 --> 03:29:40,110
So his initial thoughts were $4 more or so

1704
03:29:40,110 --> 03:29:42,690
than what we originally came back with.

1705
03:29:42,970 --> 03:29:44,650
Maybe it was just a little under four,

1706
03:29:44,750 --> 03:29:47,290
but it was a few dollars more than what we came back with.

1707
03:29:47,690 --> 03:29:48,190
That is correct.

1708
03:29:48,870 --> 03:29:49,670
Thank you.

1709
03:29:49,970 --> 03:29:50,610
Thank you.

1710
03:29:52,860 --> 03:29:55,040
All right, there's a motion off for in a second

1711
03:29:55,560 --> 03:29:57,460
to table this to the 15th.

1712
03:29:57,480 --> 03:29:58,700
Can we please vote?

1713
03:30:09,850 --> 03:30:11,410
Mr. Redden, please?

1714
03:30:24,920 --> 03:30:26,720
The Redden Redden Consulting Group.

1715
03:30:27,320 --> 03:30:31,560
I think there is a couple of statements being made that was incorrect.

1716
03:30:32,700 --> 03:30:42,860
I initially talked with the Finance Director in the Assistant City Manager months ago,

1717
03:30:43,240 --> 03:30:49,980
and we said that we thought maybe a rate around 1650 would be somewhere in the ballpark.

1718
03:30:49,980 --> 03:30:58,280
They came in at 1594, so that's 46 cents, differs, but that was prior to any negotiation

1719
03:30:58,280 --> 03:31:00,080
with waste for them.

1720
03:31:00,460 --> 03:31:06,580
As far as the enicle and diamond on waste for them, that's incorrect, because the amount

1721
03:31:06,580 --> 03:31:14,580
of fines or penalties charged against them last year was less than 7-10-1% of their revenue.

1722
03:31:14,580 --> 03:31:22,220
So, if there's 1594, it wants to go up higher for the administrative charges, it could

1723
03:31:22,220 --> 03:31:25,760
only go up to 10% to 10% to 1%.

1724
03:31:25,760 --> 03:31:33,240
So, when we have the administrative charges that we're working for us very well for the

1725
03:31:33,240 --> 03:31:39,200
last seven years, 60% of those have been removed from the contract without our knowledge.

1726
03:31:39,200 --> 03:31:45,920
And we finally, when we downloaded the contract, we could go Friday and ran through that.

1727
03:31:46,160 --> 03:31:53,740
That's where we had some issues with various enforcements of the contract.

1728
03:31:54,260 --> 03:32:00,260
If you don't enforce the contract, then I always said it's like raising children or hurting

1729
03:32:00,260 --> 03:32:01,860
cats on a witch's hardest.

1730
03:32:02,640 --> 03:32:08,220
And we've had no turnover in our personnel for the last seven years.

1731
03:32:08,220 --> 03:32:14,060
where there's waste where there's and a lot of turnover from their drivers that are supervisors so forth.

1732
03:32:14,440 --> 03:32:15,840
That's just the nature of the business.

1733
03:32:16,980 --> 03:32:23,100
There's several things that's gotten negotiated out of the contract that we don't agree with.

1734
03:32:23,300 --> 03:32:25,160
It would affect service eventually.

1735
03:32:26,900 --> 03:32:33,780
One of the things is the cap on the pricing sheets is 4% for one or two years.

1736
03:32:33,780 --> 03:32:45,860
We have contracts that we oversee this 4% through the term of the contract, and that should be a cap in the section 6, I believe it is of the contract.

1737
03:32:46,540 --> 03:32:52,840
So there's various portions of this contract, and I think that we would be very advantageous to work with the city.

1738
03:32:52,840 --> 03:32:59,020
We did have a contract with the city, we do have a contract with the city, and we would

1739
03:32:59,020 --> 03:33:07,980
agree to allow that portion of our contract to be included in assisting the city without

1740
03:33:07,980 --> 03:33:09,640
additional fees.

1741
03:33:11,140 --> 03:33:13,380
If you have any questions, I'll be more in happy to answer.

1742
03:33:13,380 --> 03:33:23,000
I've got four pages of notes, various administrative charges, and then removed that are

1743
03:33:23,000 --> 03:33:28,040
pretty profound for the enforcement of the contract.

1744
03:33:29,880 --> 03:33:33,320
So if you have any questions, I'll be more happy to answer them for you.

1745
03:33:34,660 --> 03:33:35,900
Thank you, Mr. Reverend.

1746
03:33:40,910 --> 03:33:41,550
Excuse me, Mayor.

1747
03:33:41,550 --> 03:33:43,490
Waste problem, would you like to speak?

1748
03:33:44,390 --> 03:33:45,150
Tim Dullham, please.

1749
03:33:50,550 --> 03:33:53,770
Tim Dullham, 2101, Waste State Road, 434 Longwood,

1750
03:33:54,270 --> 03:33:56,290
with Waste Road, just wanted to address some of the comments

1751
03:33:56,290 --> 03:33:57,170
that have been made.

1752
03:33:58,290 --> 03:34:01,970
As far as a cap in the CPI, which Mr. Redmond just mentioned,

1753
03:34:02,110 --> 03:34:04,290
there is a 5% cap in the CPI.

1754
03:34:04,290 --> 03:34:05,850
It was agreed to with the city.

1755
03:34:06,330 --> 03:34:08,890
It is the same cap that the city of Holly Hill

1756
03:34:08,890 --> 03:34:11,870
and Mr. Redmond and myself agreed to.

1757
03:34:11,870 --> 03:34:13,830
Here in the last couple of weeks with the contract

1758
03:34:13,830 --> 03:34:14,750
that was extended.

1759
03:34:15,530 --> 03:34:21,410
again for the city of Holly Hill so that had been addressed. As far as the administrative

1760
03:34:21,410 --> 03:34:28,190
fees go it was part of a multi-fested or a large number of items that we went back and

1761
03:34:28,190 --> 03:34:35,530
forth with for about six months with city staff. You know if somebody wants to go down

1762
03:34:35,530 --> 03:34:42,470
those one by one I would be happy to sit with whomever but the reality of it is the items

1763
03:34:42,470 --> 03:34:47,570
that were taken out, as we mentioned, so if, you know, there was a fine in there if I don't

1764
03:34:47,570 --> 03:34:53,190
have a rake on the truck. Okay, that was taken out. There's a new fine that was trying to

1765
03:34:53,190 --> 03:34:58,790
be entered into the agreement that if my guys dump the cart, if they don't turn it a certain

1766
03:34:58,790 --> 03:35:04,510
direction, I'm now going to get fined $100 or $150 for the cart being turned a certain direction.

1767
03:35:05,870 --> 03:35:10,550
That's something that you currently find us for, that's not in the contract and we've

1768
03:35:11,810 --> 03:35:17,170
successfully tried to push back on that but that's simply something we do so when we're

1769
03:35:17,170 --> 03:35:22,010
riding down the street we can see whether a can's been serviced or not. That has

1770
03:35:22,010 --> 03:35:26,370
absolutely no impact on the resident whatsoever when it comes to is there

1771
03:35:26,370 --> 03:35:31,650
can be in serviced or not. Some of these were duplications. There's a fine in there

1772
03:35:31,650 --> 03:35:35,650
for missing paperwork deadlines and then there's another fine in there for missing a

1773
03:35:35,650 --> 03:35:39,010
different paperwork deadline and then there's another fine in there for missing

1774
03:35:39,010 --> 03:35:44,790
another administrative deadline. So there were multiple fines for administrative deadlines where

1775
03:35:44,790 --> 03:35:50,130
there is a catch all fine if we missed administrative deadline we get fined. So the idea was not

1776
03:35:50,130 --> 03:35:57,070
to not to pull a fast one and try to scrape bunch of stuff out. But there were, you know,

1777
03:35:57,130 --> 03:36:03,490
got your fines in the contract that as a part of the conversation was staff. It was agreed that

1778
03:36:03,490 --> 03:36:08,230
as the overall financial consideration that those would be taken out and they wouldn't affect

1779
03:36:08,230 --> 03:36:14,490
the service. And as far as the service goes, just to answer that question, there was no effort

1780
03:36:14,490 --> 03:36:19,890
in this to reduce the level of service to any of the residents in the city. We essentially

1781
03:36:19,890 --> 03:36:26,830
took the contract that was in place. Cleaned it up a little bit, combined a dendom or the

1782
03:36:26,830 --> 03:36:34,470
first amendment that had some commercial services in it. We combined those, scrubbed it, gave

1783
03:36:34,470 --> 03:36:40,090
back with, again, language to clean things up, but from a service level, just to address

1784
03:36:40,090 --> 03:36:46,190
the pressure of the best was, we did not reduce service whatsoever in this contract and

1785
03:36:46,190 --> 03:36:51,900
had no intention of doing so. So if there any questions, I'll be happy to answer.

1786
03:36:55,660 --> 03:36:56,140
Thank

1787
03:36:59,120 --> 03:37:04,040
you. We're not here to deliberate. We're not this. This is not the place for that.

1788
03:37:04,360 --> 03:37:08,360
So we have a motion on the floor in a second. Can we please vote and this is the table

1789
03:37:08,360 --> 03:37:09,940
to the 15th.

1790
03:37:14,960 --> 03:37:17,900
The motion to table fails. At this time, I wanted to

1791
03:37:17,900 --> 03:37:19,120
obtain a separate motion.

1792
03:37:22,370 --> 03:37:26,810
Vice Mayor Harriot. I'd like to make a motion to approve

1793
03:37:26,810 --> 03:37:31,830
resolution 2025-123 awarding an agreement between the city of Dalton and waste

1794
03:37:31,830 --> 03:37:36,510
product to provide solid waste collection services. There's a motion by Vice

1795
03:37:36,510 --> 03:37:40,590
Mayor Harriot. Sir's second. Commissioner Santiago.

1796
03:37:40,590 --> 03:37:50,230
Yes, I'm going to second it, however, I do want to state that this contract is negotiated

1797
03:37:51,170 --> 03:37:58,130
less than what Mr. Redmond was proposing. If we move forward to September 15th, there's

1798
03:37:58,130 --> 03:38:04,010
a possibility that it may go up. We don't want to make it go up, trying to save the city

1799
03:38:04,010 --> 03:38:09,450
money. The level of service will still remain the same. So I'm going to second it.

1800
03:38:09,930 --> 03:38:13,490
There's a second on the floor city major in the city attorney.

1801
03:38:14,410 --> 03:38:18,930
Just a couple things. Just one of them is it several times it was said we cannot enforce the contract.

1802
03:38:19,510 --> 03:38:23,810
We absolutely can enforce the contract and I believe that was said at this microphone here also.

1803
03:38:24,050 --> 03:38:28,090
So it's not a question of if someone's garbage isn't picked up for some reason we threw that out.

1804
03:38:28,310 --> 03:38:29,670
No, that's absolutely enforceable.

1805
03:38:30,470 --> 03:38:33,830
The other thing I think that needs to be said is Mr. Redmond's done a good job with his company.

1806
03:38:33,830 --> 03:38:41,790
all these years, but his existence really, his company is to go after every fee you could possibly get.

1807
03:38:42,070 --> 03:38:46,470
You won't do too well the company wide if it's really just picking up an empty can here or there.

1808
03:38:46,690 --> 03:38:48,150
That was Mr. A road that was missed.

1809
03:38:48,710 --> 03:38:55,590
So the more fees that our city puts into the contract, the more that redmond services has to go after waste pro

1810
03:38:55,590 --> 03:38:59,430
and we're looking at an existence that exists because it exists.

1811
03:39:00,270 --> 03:39:03,010
So not that we're getting rid of Bill and his company here,

1812
03:39:03,010 --> 03:39:07,110
But I feel it should be stated that when you bring in new staff like myself and the other staff,

1813
03:39:07,630 --> 03:39:11,710
we do look at things upside down and backwards and we start to look and technically check

1814
03:39:11,710 --> 03:39:17,250
and see that somebody's existence is to make sure that we charge more and more fees.

1815
03:39:17,830 --> 03:39:21,210
If we don't charge those fees, then that existence doesn't really exist as much.

1816
03:39:21,570 --> 03:39:23,190
But is there really a need for those fees?

1817
03:39:23,470 --> 03:39:24,790
It does not hurt services.

1818
03:39:25,350 --> 03:39:29,250
The citizens do not miss out on anything that we've removed from the contract.

1819
03:39:29,250 --> 03:39:31,510
We just made that more of a professional contract,

1820
03:39:31,550 --> 03:39:35,810
then not contract that look for everything we could possibly get from them.

1821
03:39:35,970 --> 03:39:37,430
That's just an appropriate and business.

1822
03:39:38,130 --> 03:39:38,890
Thank you.

1823
03:39:39,130 --> 03:39:39,430
City Attorney.

1824
03:39:40,130 --> 03:39:40,890
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1825
03:39:41,210 --> 03:39:43,810
Now that there's a motion on the floor to approve the resolution,

1826
03:39:44,090 --> 03:39:45,830
I just wanted to read it into the record.

1827
03:39:46,570 --> 03:39:49,670
So this is resolution number 2025-123,

1828
03:39:49,910 --> 03:39:51,750
a resolution of the City of Delton of Florida,

1829
03:39:51,950 --> 03:39:53,730
authorizing the City Manager or Designee

1830
03:39:53,730 --> 03:39:55,730
to execute the amended and receded agreement

1831
03:39:55,730 --> 03:39:57,210
with Waste Pro of Florida Inc.

1832
03:39:57,210 --> 03:40:01,910
For solid waste collection, disposal and transportation services in accordance with RFP number

1833
03:40:01,910 --> 03:40:07,190
1-8021 and the exclusive commercial solid waste franchise providing for implementation and

1834
03:40:07,190 --> 03:40:08,430
an effective date.

1835
03:40:10,020 --> 03:40:11,200
Can you please vote?

1836
03:40:18,570 --> 03:40:20,270
Motion fails 3-3.

1837
03:40:21,650 --> 03:40:22,750
Recommendation City Attorney?

1838
03:40:27,190 --> 03:40:35,610
I would recommend that a, I believe, a motion to table is probably appropriate in this case

1839
03:40:35,610 --> 03:40:48,390
since there's clearly not a will to approve the contract as presented and I don't believe

1840
03:40:48,390 --> 03:40:58,630
that staff and waste pro will be able to successfully negotiate and revise this contract

1841
03:40:58,630 --> 03:41:08,230
in a recess, you know, of less than several hours, so I would recommend that if the commission

1842
03:41:08,230 --> 03:41:15,730
is willing to table this to a date certain of September 15th to allow staff and ways

1843
03:41:15,730 --> 03:41:22,510
for the time to continue looking at this, that would be appropriate.

1844
03:41:22,510 --> 03:41:27,600
City Clerk, we already have a scheduled meeting for sure on the 15th, right?

1845
03:41:28,350 --> 03:41:31,870
Okay. Commissioner Vasquez, and then Commissioner Halington.

1846
03:41:34,220 --> 03:41:39,140
I move to table the Waste Pro contract.

1847
03:41:40,840 --> 03:41:44,300
Until the next meeting, which is the 15th of September.

1848
03:41:44,800 --> 03:41:48,100
There's a motion by Commissioner of the Vasquez.

1849
03:41:48,200 --> 03:41:49,500
Commissioner Halington, you're on the way.

1850
03:41:49,500 --> 03:41:53,360
I'll second, but I would like to just ask a question.

1851
03:41:53,560 --> 03:41:54,380
Go ahead and ask your question.

1852
03:41:54,780 --> 03:41:58,920
Is there an opportunity for us to potentially extend the current

1853
03:41:58,920 --> 03:42:02,680
contracts so that we can get a comfort level with the Commission

1854
03:42:02,680 --> 03:42:06,860
and potentially get that 7C filled so that we don't have this

1855
03:42:06,860 --> 03:42:08,720
constant 3, 3 voting?

1856
03:42:09,540 --> 03:42:10,140
Is that possible?

1857
03:42:10,820 --> 03:42:13,220
Can we possibly work with Waste Pro to do that?

1858
03:42:14,160 --> 03:42:17,100
We would have to speak with waste pro.

1859
03:42:18,400 --> 03:42:23,160
It may be possible if they're amenable to do a one year extension.

1860
03:42:23,460 --> 03:42:29,620
Well, maybe even just three months, something so that we can move forward in the interim.

1861
03:42:32,870 --> 03:42:38,570
Mayor Commission, if we are unable to successfully negotiate this by next Monday,

1862
03:42:39,170 --> 03:42:44,930
we would have to place this on our monthly utility bill versus the tax bill.

1863
03:42:44,930 --> 03:42:51,030
just based on the information received from WastePro the cost are going to go up and if we

1864
03:42:51,030 --> 03:42:57,730
don't have something firm on an assessment rate by Monday evening at 11.59 pm we would

1865
03:42:57,730 --> 03:43:08,390
not be able to have this on the tax bill for next year. Thank you all right let's go ahead

1866
03:43:08,390 --> 03:43:13,690
about there's a motion to table it to the 15th and the second motion by Commissioner

1867
03:43:13,690 --> 03:43:15,930
the Vasquez second by Commissioner Howington

1868
03:43:32,800 --> 03:43:34,580
motion passes forward to.

1869
03:43:46,510 --> 03:43:49,810
All right, if I can please get the City Attorney to read nine beas and boy.

1870
03:43:52,910 --> 03:43:56,370
Yes, Mr. Mayer. This is ordinance number 34-25.

1871
03:43:57,170 --> 03:43:58,910
An ordinance of the City of Delton of Florida.

1872
03:43:58,970 --> 03:44:04,350
I'm sending section 1 10 3 19 PUD planned unit development of article 3 establishment

1873
03:44:04,350 --> 03:44:08,670
of classifications and officials owning map of chapter 1 10 zoning to reduce

1874
03:44:08,670 --> 03:44:12,510
the minimum parcel size required to establish plan unit developments and table 1

1875
03:44:12,510 --> 03:44:16,370
permitted use table of Article 3 establishment of classifications and officials owning

1876
03:44:16,370 --> 03:44:20,710
map of chapter 1, 10 zoning to update uses and plan unit developments providing for

1877
03:44:20,710 --> 03:44:23,590
conflicts, codification, severability and ineffective date.

1878
03:44:24,250 --> 03:44:30,310
This is essentially a cleanup of the PUD's chapter that was recently amended.

1879
03:44:31,090 --> 03:44:38,570
One of the items that staff identified was this minimum parcel size because there is our

1880
03:44:38,570 --> 03:44:44,550
certain areas of the city that require APUD in order to implement,

1881
03:44:44,570 --> 03:44:46,450
including the OST and local plan area,

1882
03:44:46,650 --> 03:44:48,630
which includes many undersized parcels.

1883
03:44:49,270 --> 03:44:53,410
It is staff's recommendation that the one-acre parcel size

1884
03:44:53,410 --> 03:44:56,090
be adopted rather than the five-acre parcel size,

1885
03:44:56,330 --> 03:44:59,290
which basically returns you to your previous state of your code.

1886
03:45:00,080 --> 03:45:06,440
And I'll let Mr. Smith. This time, I'll entertain a motion before we get into discussion.

1887
03:45:12,570 --> 03:45:14,090
It's a promotion on the floor.

1888
03:45:21,700 --> 03:45:22,440
Commissioners, Santiago.

1889
03:45:23,260 --> 03:45:29,260
I'll make the motion to approve the proposed amendments to section 1, 1, 0, 3, 1, 9.

1890
03:45:29,620 --> 03:45:30,220
Sir, second.

1891
03:45:37,550 --> 03:45:44,070
Going once. Going twice. Vice Mayor, hear it. All second.

1892
03:45:44,870 --> 03:45:48,090
All right. We have a motion in a second. Is there any public comment on this?

1893
03:45:49,410 --> 03:45:52,550
Okay, go ahead Jordan, please click on the podium button.

1894
03:45:55,340 --> 03:45:56,820
Good evening Mayor, commission.

1895
03:45:57,960 --> 03:45:59,420
So Mr. Good explained this.

1896
03:45:59,480 --> 03:46:00,300
I'm fairly well.

1897
03:46:00,600 --> 03:46:02,920
There's two changes to this code amendment.

1898
03:46:03,200 --> 03:46:07,000
The first is where we're just in the minimum put sizes to one acre.

1899
03:46:07,680 --> 03:46:11,060
And then we're updating the table for the permitted uses table to clearly

1900
03:46:11,060 --> 03:46:12,720
offline the permitted uses.

1901
03:46:13,880 --> 03:46:15,760
The planning and zoning commission.

1902
03:46:16,460 --> 03:46:22,040
The planning and zoning board repeat the item on August 20th.

1903
03:46:22,040 --> 03:46:29,600
They're recommended the commission approve this item and staff recommends approval for ordinance number 34 2020 25 at first reading

1904
03:46:30,660 --> 03:46:36,140
Just for clarification you said the PNZ board voted seven is zero to approve correct correct yes, sir

1905
03:46:40,600 --> 03:46:43,180
Right, there's no discussion can we please go to a vote

1906
03:46:55,310 --> 03:46:57,010
Motion passes for the two

1907
03:46:58,370 --> 03:47:03,450
All right, we're gonna go to 10 a action item if the city attorney can please read the action item

1908
03:47:04,550 --> 03:47:05,450
Yes, Mr. Mayor.

1909
03:47:05,590 --> 03:47:08,130
This is resolution number 2025-92.

1910
03:47:08,870 --> 03:47:10,670
A resolution of the City of Delton of Florida,

1911
03:47:10,990 --> 03:47:12,650
approving the community development block grant,

1912
03:47:12,690 --> 03:47:16,770
public service awards for program year 2025-26,

1913
03:47:17,490 --> 03:47:20,330
authorizing the City Manager to execute subrecipient agreements

1914
03:47:20,330 --> 03:47:22,470
with the top rank respondents to the notice of funding

1915
03:47:22,470 --> 03:47:26,210
availability, providing for implementation and an effective date.

1916
03:47:27,330 --> 03:47:29,090
I'll entertain a motion commissioner of the basketball

1917
03:47:29,090 --> 03:47:30,470
as you are on the board first.

1918
03:47:30,770 --> 03:47:32,270
Yes, I'll have a question, though.

1919
03:47:33,710 --> 03:47:36,110
Okay, let's come back to you with your question.

1920
03:47:36,530 --> 03:47:39,050
Commissioner Santiago, I'll leave your mic on by the way.

1921
03:47:39,410 --> 03:47:41,070
Yep, I'd like to move to approve.

1922
03:47:41,130 --> 03:47:44,350
Make a motion to approve resolution number 225-92.

1923
03:47:45,210 --> 03:47:46,350
Okay, thank you for using the recommend.

1924
03:47:46,530 --> 03:47:47,710
The motion is zero second.

1925
03:47:54,580 --> 03:47:56,400
Vice Mayor, hear you it?

1926
03:47:56,580 --> 03:47:57,160
I'll make a second.

1927
03:47:57,720 --> 03:48:00,580
Okay, there's a motion by Commissioner Santiago and a second by

1928
03:48:00,580 --> 03:48:01,560
Vice Mayor, hear you.

1929
03:48:01,700 --> 03:48:03,220
Commissioner will be the best because you're on the board.

1930
03:48:03,860 --> 03:48:04,420
Thank you, Mayor.

1931
03:48:04,420 --> 03:48:17,320
So I'm looking at the breakdown that these funds are going to be going to and you know there is one organization on this list.

1932
03:48:17,620 --> 03:48:20,000
The services, the city of Delta, or residents.

1933
03:48:21,040 --> 03:48:23,400
And that's new hope, hands of hope.

1934
03:48:23,400 --> 03:48:34,740
I can tell you from experience that I have sent people to this organization for rental assistance,

1935
03:48:34,820 --> 03:48:41,520
the rental utility assistance, boarding a system, emergency and stuff like that.

1936
03:48:43,140 --> 03:48:50,120
It's sad that sometimes they don't have the funds to help our residents, local, the autonomous residents.

1937
03:48:50,120 --> 03:49:01,160
So, I would like to ask if we can award them exactly what they're asking for by reducing

1938
03:49:01,160 --> 03:49:07,880
the other organizations, because I can tell you that even what they're asking for, it's

1939
03:49:07,880 --> 03:49:11,800
not even going to be enough for them to serve as the community.

1940
03:49:12,640 --> 03:49:12,900
Yes, ma'am.

1941
03:49:12,900 --> 03:49:20,040
So these are based off of what the commissioner proved as a recommendation on the June 7th

1942
03:49:20,040 --> 03:49:20,360
Board.

1943
03:49:20,960 --> 03:49:25,940
And I believe you specifically asked me if it was a recommendation, and I said yes it

1944
03:49:25,940 --> 03:49:26,180
was.

1945
03:49:26,440 --> 03:49:30,820
And we would bring the actual amount back for commissioner approval.

1946
03:49:31,560 --> 03:49:38,340
What you presented was the total amount to be represented to be sent to, what is it?

1947
03:49:38,640 --> 03:49:38,760
HUD?

1948
03:49:38,980 --> 03:49:40,000
The annual action planning threat.

1949
03:49:40,000 --> 03:49:43,020
to not give us the breakdown of who was getting what?

1950
03:49:43,260 --> 03:49:47,360
This spreadsheet was actually an attachment to the annual action plan,

1951
03:49:47,420 --> 03:49:50,280
which goes with the annual action plan to hood.

1952
03:49:50,380 --> 03:49:50,660
Correct.

1953
03:49:50,720 --> 03:49:52,920
This was in there with the same breakdown.

1954
03:49:54,780 --> 03:49:56,060
One I must have missed it,

1955
03:49:56,100 --> 03:49:59,620
because normally when this comes to us,

1956
03:50:00,380 --> 03:50:02,600
commissioners or prior commissioners

1957
03:50:02,600 --> 03:50:05,820
would be recommendations of where to shift the money

1958
03:50:05,820 --> 03:50:11,000
to where they thought would be best suited and best used.

1959
03:50:11,520 --> 03:50:16,060
And we've always said that we take care of home

1960
03:50:16,060 --> 03:50:18,680
before we take care of our neighbors, right?

1961
03:50:19,020 --> 03:50:24,020
A new whole pan is one of those organizations here

1962
03:50:24,020 --> 03:50:27,800
in the city of Deltona that are 24, seven.

1963
03:50:28,120 --> 03:50:32,240
I can call these people at three o'clock in the morning

1964
03:50:32,240 --> 03:50:36,360
and they will be out there to serve as whoever needs the service,

1965
03:50:36,880 --> 03:50:38,920
whether it's to pick them up and take them to a hotel,

1966
03:50:39,600 --> 03:50:41,520
or to bring clothing and stuff like that.

1967
03:50:43,160 --> 03:50:46,660
So I'm making the recommendation or the request

1968
03:50:46,660 --> 03:50:52,180
if they can increase their, to the full amount

1969
03:50:52,180 --> 03:50:54,900
of what they're asking for, which is $25,000,

1970
03:50:55,520 --> 03:50:57,920
which I can tell you it's not even enough.

1971
03:50:57,920 --> 03:51:04,540
you know of the funds that they need to fulfill all the needs in the city of the

1972
03:51:04,540 --> 03:51:10,320
autona resident just city of the autona residents. Okay that is the commission's

1973
03:51:10,320 --> 03:51:16,420
prerogative depending on how this passes and what stipulations you'll put on it.

1974
03:51:16,600 --> 03:51:22,540
We can readjust totals and the agreements that are getting ready to go out for

1975
03:51:22,540 --> 03:51:26,720
for an October 1st effective date.

1976
03:51:26,980 --> 03:51:27,960
Point of order, Commissioner.

1977
03:51:28,240 --> 03:51:29,660
Something that we'd like to amend your motion.

1978
03:51:30,420 --> 03:51:30,460
Yes.

1979
03:51:30,800 --> 03:51:34,140
Well, I just agree with Commissioner Meritsov Vasquez.

1980
03:51:34,360 --> 03:51:34,960
You are correct.

1981
03:51:35,460 --> 03:51:38,000
There are two that are not in the city of Dalton,

1982
03:51:38,020 --> 03:51:41,260
and I think we're looking at a $10,000 difference

1983
03:51:41,260 --> 03:51:43,000
for new hope in additional 10.

1984
03:51:43,240 --> 03:51:46,660
Can we remove $5,000 from the neighborhood center

1985
03:51:47,060 --> 03:51:49,580
and $5,000 from early learning coalition

1986
03:51:49,580 --> 03:51:53,960
and add it to new hope, which does about the same services,

1987
03:51:54,080 --> 03:51:55,120
but it's here in town.

1988
03:51:55,800 --> 03:52:00,140
So can we do, I like to make a motion to reduce that?

1989
03:52:00,340 --> 03:52:00,720
Is that okay?

1990
03:52:00,920 --> 03:52:03,120
So city attorney's trying to figure out what,

1991
03:52:03,120 --> 03:52:04,620
so you're going to have to redo your motion.

1992
03:52:04,980 --> 03:52:07,600
Can we get a work with Merrick that brings this back

1993
03:52:07,600 --> 03:52:10,020
in to make sure that this is what she's looking for?

1994
03:52:11,260 --> 03:52:11,800
That is it.

1995
03:52:12,160 --> 03:52:12,500
All done.

1996
03:52:12,700 --> 03:52:13,720
I promise I'm getting to you.

1997
03:52:14,300 --> 03:52:14,480
Sure.

1998
03:52:14,840 --> 03:52:16,520
That is exactly what I'm looking for.

1999
03:52:16,720 --> 03:52:19,460
I'm looking that new hope gets awarded exactly

2000
03:52:19,460 --> 03:52:20,720
what they're asking for?

2001
03:52:20,720 --> 03:52:22,360
The additional $10,000 correct.

2002
03:52:22,720 --> 03:52:22,740
Correct.

2003
03:52:22,920 --> 03:52:23,800
Oh, OK.

2004
03:52:24,840 --> 03:52:25,960
Well, it's less than $10.

2005
03:52:26,220 --> 03:52:27,000
It's a change.

2006
03:52:27,820 --> 03:52:28,620
We split the difference.

2007
03:52:28,660 --> 03:52:30,780
Just to make up to you, what if you know that are non-involved

2008
03:52:30,780 --> 03:52:32,140
down there in the early last school?

2009
03:52:32,220 --> 03:52:34,040
City attorney can give us a viable motion.

2010
03:52:34,600 --> 03:52:40,620
So Joyce doesn't look at me with a sharp my-by-is.

2011
03:52:40,880 --> 03:52:42,180
She's looking at me with.

2012
03:52:42,320 --> 03:52:43,140
Go ahead.

2013
03:52:44,320 --> 03:52:44,860
Yes, Mr. Mayor.

2014
03:52:44,860 --> 03:52:57,560
So, essentially, your motion would still be to approve resolution number of 2025-67 with the

2015
03:52:57,560 --> 03:53:02,860
new hope, hands of hope, housing assistance requested recommended award being increased

2016
03:53:02,860 --> 03:53:10,240
to $25,000 and the deficit being taken equally from the recommended award to the neighborhood

2017
03:53:10,240 --> 03:53:16,500
center of West Felicia, and the early learning, learning coalition of Flagler and Felicia County's

2018
03:53:16,500 --> 03:53:19,080
ink. Is that good?

2019
03:53:21,820 --> 03:53:25,620
So resolution 92. Thank you, Madam Clerk.

2020
03:53:25,980 --> 03:53:30,160
Vice Mayor, are you okay with that? We're doing the second on that.

2021
03:53:30,560 --> 03:53:34,660
Yes. Okay. Before we move on, I know Colwell's on the, on the, on the,

2022
03:53:34,660 --> 03:53:39,360
give me a minute. I had to remove people from her. Go ahead, Commissioner Colwell.

2023
03:53:40,220 --> 03:53:46,280
So just so interested in the past, we've all voted on where the money is directed through

2024
03:53:46,280 --> 03:53:52,160
this fund and by voting yes on this, it'll be of the city manager, the power to dictate

2025
03:53:52,160 --> 03:53:53,840
where the funds are allocated.

2026
03:53:54,800 --> 03:53:58,840
Now, the fund are allocated based off of this spreadsheet that was included with the annual

2027
03:53:58,840 --> 03:54:03,660
action plan and that you're amending on tonight's decision.

2028
03:54:03,660 --> 03:54:08,860
the city manager's only directed to execute the agreement with

2029
03:54:08,860 --> 03:54:10,640
said public services.

2030
03:54:20,020 --> 03:54:23,680
Is there any while you're looking that up? Is there any public comment?

2031
03:54:24,360 --> 03:54:26,000
Just to make sure. Got it.

2032
03:54:28,200 --> 03:54:29,820
There are any other questions, Commissioner Cole.

2033
03:54:36,300 --> 03:54:38,380
She gave it to him the same thing.

2034
03:54:40,520 --> 03:54:41,140
Can we please vote?

2035
03:54:50,580 --> 03:54:52,500
Motion passes six to zero.

2036
03:54:53,740 --> 03:54:55,740
This time city attorney, do you have any...

2037
03:54:59,100 --> 03:55:01,320
No, Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much.

2038
03:55:03,330 --> 03:55:04,910
City manager, any comments?

2039
03:55:05,110 --> 03:55:05,390
I think so.

2040
03:55:05,670 --> 03:55:06,110
Thank you.

2041
03:55:07,650 --> 03:55:08,690
We're going to go to City Commission.

2042
03:55:08,770 --> 03:55:09,950
Comments request and reports.

2043
03:55:10,170 --> 03:55:11,310
We'll start with Commissioner Coel.

2044
03:55:13,960 --> 03:55:14,480
Yes.

2045
03:55:14,640 --> 03:55:22,360
I have a question about the maintenance of the lake handling the lake maintenance is in other cities.

2046
03:55:23,040 --> 03:55:25,560
I would like to get some information on how they handle it.

2047
03:55:25,660 --> 03:55:26,560
They handle it through the city.

2048
03:55:27,060 --> 03:55:31,520
The counties are funding available through other municipalities and counties.

2049
03:55:32,220 --> 03:55:34,140
And is there any funding available through our county?

2050
03:55:34,140 --> 03:55:34,260
And

2051
03:55:44,690 --> 03:55:50,850
the other question I have is, it's my understanding that our lean department is being outsourced.

2052
03:55:54,770 --> 03:55:56,410
Our lean department is being outsourced.

2053
03:55:56,570 --> 03:55:58,650
Part of it, yes. Part of it is.

2054
03:55:58,910 --> 03:56:00,850
Is that something that needs to come before the commission?

2055
03:56:02,550 --> 03:56:05,010
Not them aware of, it's not a cost to the city itself.

2056
03:56:05,190 --> 03:56:06,730
It's not a cost to the city.

2057
03:56:07,170 --> 03:56:09,570
How are we paying for it?

2058
03:56:09,790 --> 03:56:11,610
The people pay to use the service.

2059
03:56:11,690 --> 03:56:12,730
The people pay to use service?

2060
03:56:12,750 --> 03:56:13,030
Yes.

2061
03:56:14,050 --> 03:56:19,190
And when you say the people pay to use the service, that's the people they're being fined.

2062
03:56:19,430 --> 03:56:22,890
If you're doing a lean, if you're looking for a lean, a real estate agent from your property,

2063
03:56:23,710 --> 03:56:29,250
you would go through the process and you would actually pay an extra fee on top of what the city charges.

2064
03:56:30,010 --> 03:56:34,190
And it becomes the counting issue of where we have, we can go back in time,

2065
03:56:34,430 --> 03:56:37,950
forward in time making sure all the departments are covered no longer is in a manual job.

2066
03:56:38,430 --> 03:56:40,510
It's actually technology for the future.

2067
03:56:40,930 --> 03:56:42,130
All right. Thank you for clarifying that.

2068
03:56:46,340 --> 03:56:55,790
Commissioner Howington, who am I, sorry, go ahead. You turned off. There you go.

2069
03:56:56,350 --> 03:56:59,650
I don't have anything, thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. I want to

2070
03:56:59,650 --> 03:57:01,350
Commissioner Villabasquez.

2071
03:57:02,550 --> 03:57:08,530
May, yes, Mayor. Thank you. So first of all, I'd like to say in

2072
03:57:09,730 --> 03:57:14,310
Senate big hug to Chief Schneider. I apologize I didn't go to your

2073
03:57:14,310 --> 03:57:21,230
So, retirement, but you live right around the corner so it's not like you left us forever.

2074
03:57:22,550 --> 03:57:26,450
And thank you for all the years that you gave the city of Delta, and you did a wonderful

2075
03:57:26,450 --> 03:57:27,030
job.

2076
03:57:27,910 --> 03:57:32,390
I want to invite everyone to come out on Saturday where they're permitting hopefully keep

2077
03:57:32,390 --> 03:57:33,250
offering this cross.

2078
03:57:33,570 --> 03:57:36,390
For the festival of nations, it's going to be awesome.

2079
03:57:36,590 --> 03:57:40,550
We have 27, I think it is dances.

2080
03:57:40,550 --> 03:57:47,550
It's going to be right here in the court yard, it's free open to the public, please come out and enjoy it.

2081
03:57:48,450 --> 03:57:55,550
And I also want to invite all our businesses here in the city of Daltona to go,

2082
03:57:56,230 --> 03:57:58,970
I don't know if it's in the city website.

2083
03:57:59,790 --> 03:58:08,650
For the Daltona magazine, best of Daltona businesses sign up and put the posters in your businesses

2084
03:58:08,650 --> 03:58:09,990
So people can vote for you.

2085
03:58:10,090 --> 03:58:13,230
I know that I did my round in district three.

2086
03:58:13,370 --> 03:58:17,070
I still have some that I have to drop off with the posters

2087
03:58:17,070 --> 03:58:18,670
and the table tents.

2088
03:58:19,010 --> 03:58:21,090
So please, for those of you who do not have a business

2089
03:58:21,090 --> 03:58:22,610
and you have your favorite restaurants,

2090
03:58:22,830 --> 03:58:26,810
your favorite doctors, your favorite hairstyles or whatever.

2091
03:58:27,190 --> 03:58:28,250
You know, vote for them.

2092
03:58:28,390 --> 03:58:29,130
They deserve it.

2093
03:58:29,130 --> 03:58:31,670
This is the first one held here in the city of Deltona

2094
03:58:31,670 --> 03:58:33,110
and they're gonna love it.

2095
03:58:33,110 --> 03:58:36,710
This is the way for us to show how we appreciate them

2096
03:58:36,710 --> 03:58:38,070
being in the city of Deltona.

2097
03:58:38,070 --> 03:58:43,510
I can tell you that I have, I think it's 15 or 60 mom-in-pop restaurants in District 3.

2098
03:58:44,390 --> 03:58:46,130
So, I'm pushing for them.

2099
03:58:46,670 --> 03:58:50,870
Thank you everyone for being here and get on safe.

2100
03:58:53,370 --> 03:58:54,210
Commissioner Santiago?

2101
03:58:56,670 --> 03:58:57,170
Thank you, Mayor.

2102
03:58:57,910 --> 03:59:02,150
Just a quick, again, I wanted to extend my deepest gratitude to the Fire Chief.

2103
03:59:02,150 --> 03:59:06,950
I worked with him for a couple of years, and he officially retired.

2104
03:59:07,430 --> 03:59:10,570
Thank you for your dedication, your leadership to our community.

2105
03:59:10,570 --> 03:59:17,070
we're going to miss you chief sider. I also attended a crime stoppers annual event and they did

2106
03:59:17,070 --> 03:59:23,050
honor one of our local law enforcement deputies that's here at District 4. I forgot the name.

2107
03:59:24,690 --> 03:59:31,230
Deputy Graham. He was given an award, I don't remember the name of the award, but I know he's one of

2108
03:59:31,230 --> 03:59:39,950
us any degree. The other thing is I had the privilege to present to sisters build network for girls and

2109
03:59:41,790 --> 03:59:51,070
I just want to thank Dr. Primrose Cameron on encouraging and inspiring our youth in our community and that's all. That's all I have today. Thank you.

2110
03:59:51,350 --> 03:59:53,710
I was going to skip Vice Mayor Pico, Vice Mayor.

2111
03:59:55,470 --> 03:59:57,590
I just wanted to, huh?

2112
03:59:58,390 --> 03:59:59,970
I don't know. I wanted to echo this.

2113
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:24,440
Thank you. Big thanks to Chief Snyder and as Commissioner Santiago so eloquently put during your 10-minute long speech at the ceremony, that I hope he gets the opportunity to travel like he still has so much deserves a big thank you to Deputy Graham in the Sheriff's Office for what they do as well.

2114
04:00:24,440 --> 04:00:27,060
but it's a well-deserved recognition for him.

2115
04:00:27,540 --> 04:00:31,900
And then on Commissioner Callwell's request

2116
04:00:31,900 --> 04:00:35,340
for the Lake Aquatic Lead Control stuff,

2117
04:00:35,760 --> 04:00:38,560
can we make sure that that's included in the workshop

2118
04:00:38,560 --> 04:00:45,060
that is coming up on, I don't know, the date.

2119
04:00:45,200 --> 04:00:48,460
But it's the one that we had discussed talking about

2120
04:00:48,460 --> 04:00:51,040
they adding the aquatic lead control to.

2121
04:00:51,040 --> 04:00:57,440
It's the, I think side walks are on there, already in free lighting. Sorry, free lighting is the primary.

2122
04:01:01,480 --> 04:01:02,420
Thank you.

2123
04:01:04,420 --> 04:01:04,600
Okay.

2124
04:01:05,320 --> 04:01:07,180
I actually just have one request.

2125
04:01:08,920 --> 04:01:09,600
Just one request.

2126
04:01:09,640 --> 04:01:10,400
I can't believe that.

2127
04:01:10,680 --> 04:01:11,280
That's the smallest.

2128
04:01:12,440 --> 04:01:17,940
There is a, during the four league cities we met a company called Sox erosion solutions.

2129
04:01:17,940 --> 04:01:24,500
I know that I afforded that information to, to city manager and staff just so we have it.

2130
04:01:24,500 --> 04:01:28,980
All I'm asking from the commission is if we can allow them to do a presentation, something

2131
04:01:28,980 --> 04:01:32,400
short, it can even be at a workshop, it doesn't have to be at a commission meeting.

2132
04:01:34,740 --> 04:01:39,580
They have very, very, what's the word I'm looking for.

2133
04:01:39,840 --> 04:01:45,560
Impressive stuff that they use to kind of help with the lake erotians that we have in the

2134
04:01:45,560 --> 04:01:45,980
city.

2135
04:01:46,960 --> 04:01:51,980
And since we're not getting any help from like the state, because we don't have a beach for

2136
04:01:51,980 --> 04:01:58,440
Beach Reservation, I figured we can at least let them come in and do a report or if that's

2137
04:01:58,440 --> 04:02:02,820
of the case if staff just wants to at least, City Manager, you want to reach out to them,

2138
04:02:03,000 --> 04:02:07,480
whichever it doesn't matter, so if it's okay with the commission, I'd like to get a consensus

2139
04:02:07,480 --> 04:02:07,860
for that.

2140
04:02:07,860 --> 04:02:08,680
I'd like to see a presentation.

2141
04:02:10,220 --> 04:02:10,340
Good.

2142
04:02:11,620 --> 04:02:11,960
Thank you.

2143
04:02:11,980 --> 04:02:19,920
Mayor, I just want to remind us that we used to do presentations doing workshops.

2144
04:02:23,260 --> 04:02:32,560
I mean presentations that are just to give us information on something, not a presentation

2145
04:02:32,560 --> 04:02:34,940
for a big decision that we have to make.

2146
04:02:35,160 --> 04:02:39,120
So I can, I can adjust my request to specifically for a workshop.

2147
04:02:39,620 --> 04:02:40,900
Yeah, I think it will be good.

2148
04:02:41,040 --> 04:02:41,520
Yes.

2149
04:02:41,520 --> 04:02:41,760
I'm good.

2150
04:02:42,360 --> 04:02:42,600
Yes.

2151
04:02:43,880 --> 04:02:43,980
Okay.

2152
04:02:45,120 --> 04:02:45,380
All right.

2153
04:02:45,520 --> 04:02:45,920
That's it.

2154
04:02:45,960 --> 04:02:46,860
Everybody have a good night.

2155
04:02:47,060 --> 04:02:48,280
Be blessed and stay safe.

2156
04:02:48,280 --> 04:02:49,380
Minis adjourned.