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[9:08] This is a meeting continuation from September 3rd, 2025 till today, September 8th, 2025, and at this time, we're going to go ahead and have the city clerk call the roll please.
[9:22] Hold on. Commission of Bill of Ask West.
[9:29] Commission of call well. Commission of howington.
[9:34] Here. Commission of Santiago. Here. Vice Mayor Harriet.
[9:39] May I be able to hear this time I invite Commissioner of Yola Vasquez of District 3 to
[9:46] lead us in invocation, the pledge and the honouring of the veterans.
[9:55] Thank you Mayor.
[9:55] If we can all please bow our heads and do a little prayer, actually a big prayer.
[10:14] Thank you everyone.
[10:15] I would like to invite anyone in the audience who is a veteran to lead us in the Pleasure of Allegiance.
[10:24] to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
[10:33] One mentioned, on the God, in the visible, with liberty and justice for all.
[10:41] Our veterans that were supposed to be recognized today could not make it to the meeting.
[10:46] Today, so their commander from the Bikers picked up their certificate on Friday and they were presented to them at their monthly meeting.
[10:56] Okay, thank you Commissioner Villabascos and those were Liam Bowman from the United States Army and Caesar Martinez also from the United States Army.
[11:06] Right this time we're going to go to these additions and deletions and I believe our city attorney.
[11:12] Yes, Mr. Mayor.
[11:14] Item nine a ordinance 32-2025.
[11:19] the applicant in that matter has requested it be deferred to a date certain of October
[11:25] 20th. If I could please get a motion and a second from the commission to that effect.
[11:35] Commissioner Santhiyago?
[11:36] So moved.
[11:39] Can you do an actual motion, please?
[11:41] I make a motion to, as we want to extend, 9A to the meeting on October 20th.
[11:49] Yes, ma'am.
[11:51] Commissioner Colwell I second okay if we can as soon as I've had the ready we're gonna go ahead and vote
[12:00] Or we can just do a verbal vote make it easier all in favor. I I'll opposed
[12:07] All right, thank you. So we're moving nine a's an awful just for clarification
[12:17] All right
[12:18] Presentations awards and reports
[12:23] We got Mr. Baker.
[12:26] Parker, sorry.
[12:28] We're going to Dalton of Community Events.
[12:43] If you can also please go on your mic.
[12:49] Okay, we have quite a few events going on this month for the first month.
[12:53] First, this Friday night is our monthly bonkers comedy show over at the center.
[12:59] As always, tickets are only $8 if you buy them in advance.
[13:02] And then this Saturday, the 13th, we're bringing back the the festivals of nations with the Hispanic Chamber.
[13:12] That's going to be here at City Hall outside in the courtyard.
[13:16] There is going to be cultural performances, cultural food.
[13:21] We used to do this, but kind of faded away after during COVID.
[13:25] And so we're bringing it back bigger and better than ever.
[13:28] 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. Also on Saturday night is our amphitheater
[13:33] concerts series so you can have some music in the in the daytime and they go
[13:37] over to the amphitheater for a blues band at night 7 p.m. free event
[13:42] Frank Bang and the TNT horns. And then next Friday night the 19th we are having our
[13:48] movie in the park. We're showing Twisters. That's the 2024 version of the movie.
[13:53] We were supposed to show it last month but it was rained out so we're bringing it back this month.
[13:57] It's over at Campbell Park, as always, it's a free event, and there's free popcorn and
[14:02] lemonade as well while supplies last.
[14:05] And then on the 20th, we have our yearly storm drain markup event.
[14:11] So we're looking for volunteers, if you'd like to volunteer.
[14:14] You can reach out to Sonia Clay in the Public Works Department.
[14:17] It's 8 a.m., they're going to meet in the Deltono Plaza, there on Deltono Boulevard.
[14:23] And then also on the 20th, this is a Vema event.
[14:28] They did it last year, they're doing it again this year.
[14:30] It's a car and bike show.
[14:34] And it's to bring awareness to veterans suffering from PTSD.
[14:38] So this is, like I said, on the 20th of Saturday,
[14:42] also at Deltona Boulevard at the Deltona Plaza,
[14:46] 11 a.m. to 5 p.m.
[14:48] And there's a lot going on that day because it's also the day of the
[14:52] Hispanic Association is putting on this event and this is always buried.
[15:00] Every popular, huge event, live music, food vendors, drink vendors. This event is a ton of fun. And as always, if anybody has any events that they would like to share with community, let me know, see Barker at deltonaethel.gov.
[15:18] Thank you, Ms. Barker. At this time, we're going to go to section 7A. If I can please have the city attorney read section 7A please.
[15:39] Yes, Mr. Mayor.
[15:42] So I'll be reading into the record, both item 7A, which is resolution number 2025-121, a resolution
[15:51] of the City Commission of the City of Delton of Florida, establishing a proposed operating
[15:55] military of AdVlorum taxation.
[15:58] For the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2025, and ending September 30, 2026, providing
[16:04] for Scribner's airs and an effective date, as well as the agenda item 47D, which is
[16:12] resolution number 2025-122, a resolution of the City Commission of the City of Daytona
[16:18] Florida adopting the tentative budget for each of several funds and departments of the city,
[16:22] for the fiscal year beginning October 125, and ending September 30, 2020-26,
[16:28] approving the tentative capital improvement plan, providing for appropriation and procedures,
[16:32] providing for scrubbers, airs, and providing for an effective date.
[16:36] So, procedurally, you may have a collective discussion on both the milledrate and the budget,
[16:44] but you will need to take a separate vote on each at the end.
[16:49] Thank you.
[16:50] At this time, before moving forward, I'll entertain a motion and a second so we can enter into
[16:55] discussion.
[17:00] Vice Mayor Harriet?
[17:04] I'd like to make a motion to request a request approval, a resolution number.
[17:09] or 2025-121 adopting the tentative millage for fiscal year 2025-26 with one change that the
[17:23] the millage rate be 6.75, which is 0.05 higher than what is presented to us.
[17:36] Just a point of clarification.
[17:38] It's on there for 6.75 correct?
[17:40] It's a real one.
[17:42] Then what's
[17:46] the...
[17:46] That's your old...
[17:49] Then...
[17:49] I'll send you with my motion.
[17:53] Let's see, point some thought.
[17:54] Commissioner Santiago?
[17:55] Second.
[17:57] At this time, we'll listen to public comment
[18:00] and because both items, even though we have to vote on them separately,
[18:06] we'll do...
[18:07] Yes.
[18:08] Sorry, if I made Mr. Mayor,
[18:09] the motion needs to be read as 6.75 per 1,000 just per a state statute.
[18:20] Hold on, go ahead and click on your mic.
[18:28] Do we have the,
[18:47] I make a motion to approve resolution number 2025-121 adopting the city of
[18:53] on a fiscal year 2025, 2026, tentative millage rate of 6.75 mills per $1,000
[19:00] of valuation.
[19:05] If you're generous enough to tell you, you're still going with your second.
[19:18] Quite a new cross-parallel, please.
[19:21] And you can leave your mic on if you'd like to sit in the clerk.
[19:25] Ms. Courtney Crossburgos, when you get on, just click on the mic so I can turn it on.
[19:29] Okay.
[19:37] There we go.
[19:38] Good evening.
[19:40] I'm concerned about the 6.75, the last, it was up 4.6.7 and Mr. Harry, it did bring it up at the budget workshop, wanting to raise it for clearing out the legs and things, but it was never a consensus, it was never a boat because it was a workshop.
[20:03] So, I understand doc changed it, but I don't understand why when that's not even been
[20:13] discussed early or voted on, and again,
[20:21] we haven't gotten much input for these budget
[20:29] workshops or meetings because nobody seems to care this year but it's extremely
[20:36] frustrating. I did find to get a detailed line item so Joyce doesn't have to
[20:42] do the PRR because I still didn't get that but I did find it and there's a lot of
[20:46] ass in there that are definitely wants not need and before you approve it tonight I
[20:54] I think you guys really need to look at that.
[20:56] There's a lot of money we could cut,
[20:58] which then maybe we could take the village back down a little bit.
[21:01] I don't know, but I can tell you personally,
[21:04] your guys are pricing me out of Deltona.
[21:07] I can't afford to live here anymore.
[21:11] So, you know, I hope you take it seriously,
[21:14] forget the mayor's trip, forget the moratorium,
[21:16] forget the SB 180, concentrate on our budget.
[21:20] This is what counts to us.
[21:22] The other stuff is important, but this is important now, and it has to be done by October, so we need you to really take a close look at all these asks that are in there.
[21:34] Remember, it's your money too, and I think everybody here is having a hard time this year.
[21:41] Anyway, I would like an explanation why it went to 6.75 without any discussion, please.
[21:48] Thank you.
[21:49] David Salsa, please?
[22:04] David Salsa.
[22:06] All right.
[22:07] I'm opposed to the 6.75.
[22:09] I believe we do have to go back to the rollback rate.
[22:12] We've been promised rollback rate for three years now.
[22:15] And we've yet to see it.
[22:18] Now, if I've gotten all this information,
[22:21] it's for all the taxes for each municipality.
[22:25] There's 18 municipalities in Volusia County, including the county.
[22:29] And guess who's in the top three for the highest tax bracket?
[22:33] City of Deltona, we're in the top three highest tax bracket, okay?
[22:39] Now that's just an advalorant taxes.
[22:42] When we come to storm water from the research I've done, we're the highest.
[22:46] And that's without you guys increasing it another 11 to 12 percent this year.
[22:51] And what have we seen through those increases from last year?
[22:54] Last year you had probably the highest increased I've ever seen.
[22:57] And then this year, you kind of kind of circumvented it the process of notifying the residents that you're going up by undercutting the amounts to where you didn't have to notify them.
[23:07] I thought that was kind of despicable, but that's just me.
[23:13] Now folks are already having a hard time.
[23:16] We'll probably have a presentation we'll say taxes aren't going up that much, but in reality they are.
[23:21] You'll probably have somebody cherry-pick three or four different examples, maybe mine, for instance,
[23:27] where I'm only going to see a hundred dollar increase.
[23:31] But across the board, I know I have a friend that called me over the other day to explain why this is going up over $1100.
[23:38] And I'm sure there's a lot of folks in the same boat where their taxes are going up over $1,000.
[23:43] Me, I've been here for 25 years. I'm home-stated. I've got to save your homes.
[23:48] I'm going to get killed on your stormwater assessments and your trash fees, because those
[23:53] are going up.
[23:55] Now, one other thing, you have it advertised here as a 3% increase, but when I do the numbers,
[24:07] 2425 actual was 33,799,900.
[24:13] Your projected increase this year is up to 36,369,252 dollars.
[24:19] When you divide that, guess what you get, 7%, not 3%, so we're not doing to 3% increase.
[24:25] We're doing a 7% increase over the last years.
[24:29] Now we've got a lot of folks. They're already deciding.
[24:33] Do I eat today? Do I buy my prescriptions? We have a lot of folks here that are retired.
[24:39] Third, tick sting comes, we have younger families coming up, are we going to displace them
[24:46] out of Deltona?
[24:47] I already know so many people moving.
[24:49] You can drive down any street, I guess what you see on any street nowadays, for sale signs.
[24:55] Don't tax people out of their houses.
[25:00] Thank you.
[25:00] Elbe Bryant, please.
[25:19] Elbe Bryant, Eltona.
[25:22] You know, I've been saying this podium for 10 years doing this, and I can honestly say that
[25:30] I've yet to see a full rollback in 10 years.
[25:34] I've been promised for the last five years that we had seen it haven't seen it yet, but
[25:39] this is the first year I can honestly say that if I took $4 million just out of parks and
[25:45] I could go to full rollback plus full rollback plus but
[25:54] we're worried about
[25:54] beautifying the parks rather than fixing stormwater. We're worried about
[26:02] beautifying our parks rather than fixing the streets. We're worried about
[26:07] fixing our parks that really don't need to be fixed. It seems like we spent
[26:12] 14 million dollars in the last three years on parks. That's a lot of money.
[26:20] What have we gotten for the grass in a little bit greener?
[26:27] But that's about it.
[26:30] But if you really truly take and dig into the budget, when you see a 8,000 percent increase,
[26:39] just in one item, that's the reason why we can't take and go to full rollback.
[26:44] When you see a 200 percent increase in idols, 500 percent, 600 percent, 350 percent.
[26:54] When we see the commissioners are paying attention, when we stand up here and talk, that's
[26:58] the reason why this is going up.
[26:59] Because they're not paying attention to us at all.
[27:01] Period.
[27:05] We're not doing that.
[27:06] We're not doing that.
[27:08] I'm talking.
[27:09] I know you're doing that.
[27:10] I'm talking.
[27:11] Don't.
[27:12] We have a real issue here.
[27:14] We really do.
[27:15] You all need to pay attention once in that budget book.
[27:20] I mean, what's really in that budget book?
[27:23] I've done this budget for over 10 years now.
[27:27] And this is the worst fluff I have ever seen.
[27:31] The worst that I've ever seen in this budget.
[27:35] And I've been doing this 10 years.
[27:37] I live through Mr. Cooper.
[27:39] I live through Jane Shying.
[27:41] They'll always put fluff in it, always.
[27:43] So she could move the stuff around, but this one, this one takes a take.
[27:49] I've seen more fluffiness than any loss that ever allowed.
[27:55] Now, if y'all were smart, if y'all were really smart, you would demand,
[27:59] and I mean demand that the audit comes sooner than later,
[28:04] and it includes this budget.
[28:06] Because I think you would find that there's a hoax that's being pulled over your eyes.
[28:12] And at the end of the day, what do we all want?
[28:15] We want to best for these people.
[28:18] That's what we all want.
[28:20] And I haven't seen it yet.
[28:23] In any budget I've looked at over the last 10 years.
[28:26] I have yet to see it.
[28:29] I've gotten better for our services.
[28:31] I've gotten better police services.
[28:34] My parks are immaculate.
[28:36] We don't need to spend $8 million in parks.
[28:38] I understand you have to pay for impact these and put those out, or I understand that.
[28:45] But that's probably $1 million.
[28:46] I should be enough to cover anything you want to put into parts this year.
[28:53] We have a duty, or you have a duty to do the right thing.
[28:57] You should be a 5.75 this year, not 6.7.
[29:03] Thank you, Brandy White, please.
[29:10] A lot of good points that we're already touched on, so I'm just going to go through a couple
[29:14] solutions instead because nobody wants to hear about how we've been
[29:19] jacked again. First, I'd like to address why wasn't this a zero-based
[29:24] budget that not only was requested, but stated would occur. And I brought
[29:30] an extra backbone because some of you guys have lost yours and lost your
[29:35] minds to think that this is okay to not have any type of repercussions for
[29:39] subordination like that. But moving on, there is a general fund transfer that includes 4.25
[29:47] million I believe it was for part projects. I believe to create some transparency here I'm
[29:53] going to give you guys some suggestions. For that, specifically we need a project level ledger with
[29:58] milestones.
[30:00] The general fund interest nearly doubled, so debt services need some explaining and tied to specific
[30:04] projects to fix that. We need to know which projects increase interest and what's the plan
[30:10] to stabilize that. I also have a question about a $75,000 charge for the ordinance review committee.
[30:17] I asked about that before in an email and nobody responded to that, so I'm assuming it's one of those emails that never occurred.
[30:24] For some practical oversight on the two big spending things that we have like litigation in the audit,
[30:30] we need scopes, timelines,
[30:33] and preferably the cost along the way to keep with transparency and all.
[30:38] For the center, once again, we're seeing a huge loss of over 500,000.
[30:42] So I'm wondering why haven't we already implemented quarterly P&L, and for those who don't understand that, it's a profit and loss.
[30:48] Right, so revenues by event-type,
[30:51] utilizing what your target goal,
[30:54] and ways that we're going to close that gap
[30:56] because it only seems to continue.
[30:58] We've yet to see any type of profit from this place.
[31:02] Also regarding transparency, things like transfers
[31:05] in capital, we need start and finish dates,
[31:08] along with the grant match requirements.
[31:12] I'd also like to invite each and every one of you
[31:15] to come with me on your own time,
[31:18] at any point and meet an older lady that I help name Patricia.
[31:23] She's going to be 85 years old this year and she's on a fixed income.
[31:28] Guess who's not going to be afford this increase?
[31:31] She can't even afford to do the repairs on her home that's falling apart.
[31:37] Her income to debt ratio is so small and at 85 years old and visually impaired, there's
[31:44] no way to bring in more money.
[31:46] You guys realize this, right?
[31:47] There's actually people out here that have no way to bring in more income.
[31:55] And I invite you to meet her because she's not going to be here much longer if you continue to do this.
[32:02] There is so much, and that's already been said, fluff in this budget.
[32:08] I can't believe none of you all are even talking about cuts.
[32:12] Like, oh, I reviewed it. Here's what we can do.
[32:15] Oh, here's the way we can make it more transparent.
[32:18] We're going to provide these things for you guys.
[32:21] None of that.
[32:23] And I watched back at all the meetings I didn't go to.
[32:25] I haven't just walked away.
[32:27] I just don't waste my time here because it's pointless.
[32:36] Thank you.
[32:37] Gayle Bar please.
[32:47] I'm sure most of you know who my name, my name is Gayle Bar.
[32:50] But I'm not here to talk about the last meeting that I spoke that nobody was up there.
[32:56] I'm not here to speak about that tonight.
[32:58] But you haven't heard the end of that one, but I am here to speak about tonight, is an item that should be in the budget under the garbage.
[33:09] I was wondering if we could have at least one dumpster or more dumpsters to put in big TV boxes, computer boxes, so that we don't put those boxes in front of our houses,
[33:25] and let everybody know we bought an 85 inch TV or a new computer come in and get it.
[33:32] Those boxes are recyclable. A lot of things from Amazon, we all get boxes. I get almost
[33:40] every day something from Amazon, and I'm sure all of you do too. I have a list of things
[33:46] that are recyclable from Amazon that we could probably put in a dumpster for the recyclables.
[33:54] I know we don't recycle, and I've heard the reason why, but I still feel very strongly
[34:00] if the city cares about the future, that we do something with these cardboard boxes and
[34:07] bubble-lined plastic bags and the packing paper that comes in, I get boxes for a little
[34:12] thing, a big box and a lot of paper in there.
[34:16] Well, we don't have to throw it in the garbage if we have something more reliable to put into
[34:25] to save the planet. And that is my point. And I am not here to talk about how there was
[34:32] nobody up there when I spoke to the chair at the last morning. I am not here to
[34:41] talk
[35:01] about that
[35:06] I think we need the full rollback.
[35:08] We really do finding that the overall total budget has doubled.
[35:12] I think that's absolutely insane.
[35:15] Line items, city commissioner, line items, such as travel,
[35:19] promo, overtime, et cetera.
[35:21] They should be no more than 5%, 10%.
[35:23] Why are we scamming the citizens for 32% and up?
[35:27] It's excessive.
[35:28] You need to do better.
[35:30] You need to cut things so that it's not.
[35:33] over any above a normal percentage, about 240% increase in the
[35:40] city manager travel budget. Let's drop that down to maybe 20% instead.
[35:47] Shame on you. What is that for? The most armored cars, 30, 4 trips, like what? So how
[35:54] about a city clerk recognition, $17775, that's more than triple also, communications department.
[36:08] Why has professional services, and over time, gone up over 200%, same for recognitions,
[36:16] shame on you, this is out of control spending.
[36:20] Code compliance, recognitions, firemen, fire ops, that's tripled, this disgusting, disgusting.
[36:29] None of these are acceptable, they're all excessive, do better, thank you.
[36:36] Thank you.
[36:38] Pat Blodget, please.
[36:52] Most commissioners, factility commissioners, I like, but they don't like what you're doing to us.
[36:57] City must think that the residents are stupid.
[37:02] Originally, the City Manager promised to zero balanced last year's budget this year.
[37:07] What happened?
[37:08] This was of course, by the commissioners last year.
[37:12] And if we have doge audit, it will save us $500,000.
[37:17] I emailed all of you questions that I had on the budget last Monday.
[37:22] As of now, I haven't gotten one answer.
[37:25] Do you not get your e-mails? Do you not respond to the people?
[37:30] Recognitions. She was just talking about recognitions. They went from 67,600 to 165,759.
[37:40] What are you doing? What are you giving these people?
[37:43] Also, please explain to us under the budget for city commission or what other charges are.
[37:49] It goes from 620,000 to 6,089.
[37:55] six thousand wait six million eighty nine thousand five hundred and fifty one. What is it?
[38:03] Also special pay. What is that? You know you have a lot of things in the budget that you're
[38:07] just not explaining to us and you just want to accept this. It's not acceptable. We live on a fixed income
[38:14] and a lot of us do and we just can't afford all this fluff and I don't know maybe you can but we can't.
[38:21] But thank you.
[38:25] Elba Bryant,
[38:28] please.
[38:28] Oh, I'm sorry.
[38:32] Here.
[38:33] One for each item.
[38:36] Kathy Bryant, please.
[38:40] Yes, are we doing them together, right?
[38:42] Of A and B.
[38:55] Kathy Bryant, Eltona.
[38:59] Budget wise.
[39:01] You know, there was some discussion at the workshop about moving money from parks and
[39:09] really needed. And it was argued that, well, no, these parks and wrecks need to be cleaned
[39:15] up this at any other. And the transparency that comes about is pitiful. So you've got extra
[39:25] weeds in the lake. Why do you think that is? Is it from fertilizer? Etc. I asked a while about,
[39:32] I go about educating the public on wind to fertilize wind to water. That's a contributing factor
[39:38] that we could control or try to control.
[39:41] Supposedly we've got plenty of money in the stormwater budget,
[39:46] but we can't shift anything around for the stuff
[39:50] that we really, really need.
[39:52] And then there's the transparency.
[39:55] The lack thereof where we've asked before for things
[40:00] like give us a list of the projects you're working on.
[40:03] When they're complete, I just recently asked one
[40:06] went out at the gardens. The other lady there was at the gardens, Marcie recently, had
[40:12] it as a usher one. We have no idea that it's done or why things are being done. So when
[40:16] people come up here and gripe because you're not explaining, you're not being transparent.
[40:24] Maybe if you work better with people on where the money is going and how it's being used,
[40:29] even into the budget season once you're using that, maybe that would help with public relations
[40:34] a little bit,
[40:38] but you guys see more focused on piddly stuff rather than worrying about your
[40:44] citizens and how we feel about the budget, et cetera. And I'm going to say I'm going to
[40:52] agree with Katherine Gallagher, you all need to do a better job because you're not representing
[40:58] your citizens. Thank you. Thank you. Tim Blogit, please.
[41:18] Good evening.
[41:21] Okay. Deltona has roughly a population of seniors about 17.6%. This year,
[41:30] I am going to be grazed with a cost-living increase of 2.7%. That's going to pay for you
[41:38] my tax bill that I got on my, on my little notification. I don't know where you guys get
[41:45] this 3% but it ain't happening. Okay, so I was blessed with two sons that are computer
[41:54] wages. One works for Schwab. Any other one works for Apple. And just for grins and giggles
[42:02] it dinner the other night, they decided to run a free software program which I will give you
[42:08] Commissioner Howington. And I was able to look up, ask it a question about Deltonham,
[42:15] and it's zeroed in on everything that you guys are doing wrong. Some of them that I know about
[42:20] and it's justified. So, that was a justified. And it asked questions like, okay, if we're paying
[42:27] millions and millions and millions of dollars to the to the Sheriff's Office. Why are we paying
[42:33] them an additional $90,900,000 for serving papers? Isn't that part of their duties?
[42:42] I mean, what did they do with the rest of their millions? Everybody else has given all sorts of
[42:48] examples, so I'm not going to go over that again.
[42:53] You're pushing us out.
[42:56] I was just kind of wondering, why it is you hate the seniors?
[43:02] I don't understand it.
[43:05] We, I mean, are you not aware that we're on fixed incomes?
[43:10] Are you not aware that we're only going to get the color that comes out from the government,
[43:14] not whatever other financial indicators that you follow
[43:21] for however you came up with this stuff?
[43:24] So, I'm getting 2.2.6%, I was looking at the whole budget, I was looking at all of the perks
[43:32] that the employees get, they get 100% medical care, wow, nobody has gotten that since the 80s.
[43:43] Um, they get, uh, there's all sorts of, uh, pay them for this, pay them for that.
[43:52] Um, I mean, it seems like if you wipe your butt around here, you're going to get an award for it.
[43:58] Personally, I used to reward my employees after they did something not the year before in the budget.
[44:05] That was coming up.
[44:08] Oh,
[44:12] I don't know, it doesn't look like a deletona budget.
[44:16] It looks like it's a fluff budget from Lake Mary.
[44:22] And we all live in Lake Mary.
[44:25] Everybody keeps talking about, oh, well, we're a big city.
[44:27] We got to do this, we got to do that.
[44:30] Do we have a homeless shelter?
[44:32] No.
[44:33] No, we give donations to a Daytona and then they take care of it.
[44:38] Do we have a women shelter?
[44:40] Nope. We give a bunch money out and somebody else takes care of it. Do we have a food bank?
[44:46] No, we let the church take care of that. Do we produce stuff for the handicapped and braille?
[44:55] No, we don't seem to do that either.
[45:00] I don't know anything else to say other than folks, you're fired.
[45:06] Thank you, sir. Matt Burgens.
[45:23] I'm Matt from Deltona. Keep this very short. Most people have come up here
[45:28] to talk about very small examples. Our very large examples have gone through everything. We contract a lot of our IT stuff.
[45:35] I've talked a lot a lot of times. I'm security IT. We contracted out, but yet we have a very large budget of small tools for IT, not sure what that's about.
[45:47] So if we're contracting it out, that we do a lot of contract with law enforcement, but we pay for their equipment, not sure why I don't bring their own equipment if we're contracting it out.
[45:57] So that's one of my concerns.
[46:00] My biggest reason for coming up here speaking is actually with you mayor.
[46:04] You spoke to me and told me that you're going to do a full rollback next year.
[46:09] If we're going to do it next year, why can't we do it this year?
[46:11] That has me concerned.
[46:14] That's my biggest reason.
[46:17] That kind of hurt me is if we can do it next year, why not this year?
[46:24] That hurt.
[46:25] As being the Delta on a person, I worked with everybody on this both sides here.
[46:31] I don't think there's one side versus the other side.
[46:33] I worked with almost everybody up there on the board.
[46:36] I worked with you mayor.
[46:38] I worked with vice mayor.
[46:39] I worked with the door.
[46:40] I worked almost everybody on there.
[46:42] You know, I see that we helped the veterans.
[46:44] We worked with the American Legion.
[46:46] Not very much the VFW.
[46:49] But I worked with everybody up there.
[46:51] I think everybody wants to try to make Delta on a better.
[46:54] But when I heard that comment, that hurt me very much in my heart.
[46:59] I've been in Deltona since I graduated at Pine Ridge.
[47:04] And so 20 years, 25 years, and that hurt me.
[47:08] So that if we can't do a full world like this year,
[47:11] then we shouldn't be able to do it next year either.
[47:14] So what's the difference?
[47:16] So I really urge you to really look at it if we can't do it this year,
[47:21] than what's the difference of next year.
[47:24] And that's all I gotta say.
[47:25] Thank you.
[47:26] Thank you.
[47:28] Taylor Neeler, please.
[47:52] How you guys doing today?
[47:54] Good.
[47:55] Out of word back.
[47:57] I lived in Deltono, since 1997,
[48:00] and it has slowly been getting very hard for me and my family.
[48:05] I brought my kids up here today to show you guys
[48:09] what you're pushing out.
[48:11] Okay, my family's lived here longer than 97, but I look born in 97, so I'm gonna keep it short and sweet
[48:21] I'll not really political. This isn't my thing, but I'm just showing you I'm showing face just so you guys show
[48:29] This is what this is what you guys are doing
[48:34] Thank you
[48:35] Mayor that ends public comments
[48:39] Mr. McKinney, and then we'll go to Commissioner Comments.
[48:46] Mayor, Commissioner Nary on this evening.
[48:53] Sorry, Mayor, Commissioner McKinney.
[48:58] I'd like to start first with a short presentation that summarizes the budget for the proposed budget for fiscal year 2526.
[49:10] Can you hear me now?
[49:13] Mr. McKinney, just put the mic closer to you. We need to stop with the old first place.
[49:22] Use that other microphone.
[49:25] Click on it, please, and I'll turn it on.
[49:27] Right now.
[49:32] Sorry, Mayor. I use the mic. I was provided. That's better.
[49:40] The fiscal year 2025-2026
[49:42] budget overview. The Citywide Total Operating Budget is $245,683,379. That takes into account all the grants that
[49:54] we've received, whether it was for Catalina and El Campbell of Ard, the DEP grant for the enhancements
[50:02] with sewer, et cetera, so this is your all-in budget.
[50:06] Your general fund budget is set at $77,197,638.
[50:13] We are balanced at 6.75.
[50:18] In next year's budget, we have investments in capital of
[50:21] 77.9 million for capital improvement projects
[50:25] and 8.5 million in capital outlay.
[50:30] Here's a snapshot of your overall budget, the sources of funding, the transfers in, transfers
[50:39] out, the anticipated debt proceeds if required, and their uses by personnel services,
[50:47] operating expenditures, capital outlay, and debt service, and then the transfers out.
[50:55] As we went through the budget process this year, we talked about the fact that we needed
[50:59] to do several things.
[51:01] We had to start with a zero-based budget.
[51:08] The definition of zero-based budget is it requires every expense to be justified for each
[51:14] period starting from a zero-based.
[51:17] Every department met with a city manager, the deputy city manager, and myself, along with
[51:23] Keong and Tori, and they had to go line by line of everything that increased or decreased.
[51:29] majority of the items that increased was either by policy related to personal policies and procedures or
[51:39] it had to do with items that were commodities that have gotten more expensive.
[51:45] Galena Gass is more today than it was five years ago.
[51:48] The cost of insurance we would say keep going up.
[51:51] But in this case we went back during the budget process and we put out an insurance bed.
[51:56] that item will be coming to you for approval of the first meeting in October that went down.
[52:03] So we've also took steps, it was brought up about the assessments.
[52:08] We brought to the commission the fact that it cost well over $30,000 a year to send out the mailings.
[52:15] So we brought a cost measure that's compliant with state statute that allows us to put it as part of the trim notice.
[52:20] So, your departments, finance staff, have all looked at all the various items that could be reduced.
[52:31] The other things that we, you know, go through this year in a minute,
[52:34] but we had to create the new funds. We also wanted to be very transparent.
[52:39] There's a lot of comments that were made regarding the fleet cost went up.
[52:44] Since this year, fleet was born by the general fund almost entirely.
[52:48] by creating an internal revenue service fund to track it now every department, whether you're
[52:55] in Delta in a water, storm water, general fund building inspections, everyone has to pay
[53:02] their fair equitable share based on their actual vehicle.
[53:05] It's no more boring just in the general fund.
[53:09] We took other steps to make sure that we were transparent where the city manager had three
[53:15] separate divisions all lumped into one.
[53:18] So going forward, it would be very clear to see exactly
[53:22] what the city manager's budget versus communication
[53:27] versus economic development, et cetera.
[53:30] So yes, it looks odd this year, but going into next year,
[53:33] it's very clear.
[53:35] We were also, because we're looking at the fire assessment
[53:37] fee, is we were required in talking
[53:40] to beneath the consultant that's working on that.
[53:44] we have to be very clear on what far admin versus operations versus transport. It will only make it easier
[53:52] as we move forward through this process. So everything that we've done, I know it looks like a big hit
[53:58] in change. I have it in detail and I've made sure since February 3rd everything can be found on
[54:04] anything and everything that the finance department has put out there. It's 100% available to anyone
[54:10] and everyone within Delta at any time.
[54:14] So I just want to just hone in on, then as a result, with everything that we've
[54:21] apologize, with everything that we've done, we've also been able to show a declining
[54:27] milledrate over the last few years.
[54:30] This is from staff tightening the belts.
[54:33] This is from us completing projects that have come off.
[54:38] This is for us being more when we go to look at a vehicle.
[54:42] I know we've looked at F-150s in the past.
[54:44] We've been able to put people in Mavericks or other smaller vehicles
[54:48] that has savings done only on the acquisition costs,
[54:52] but also on the cost of operations.
[54:55] So we've made everyone justify if someone for next year's budget
[54:59] had requested an F-150 or an Explorer.
[55:02] They had to first justify why they needed a vehicle of that size.
[55:08] We also have do this Thursday.
[55:10] We put a quote out for every white fleet, which is a plain F-150,
[55:16] Maverick, et cetera.
[55:17] It went out to all three four dealerships here in the county.
[55:21] Molinax, Gary Omen's, and the one in Delay and I apologize.
[55:24] I don't know the name.
[55:26] So we've gone above and beyond to make sure that we are complying
[55:30] applying with the directives provided by commission.
[55:34] In all of that, we have still been able to reduce the millage
[55:38] over the original 6.95 that you voted on for maximum millage.
[55:44] By state statute, when we're talking about the 3.06,
[55:49] that's to increase over rollback.
[55:51] The rollback is 6.5494.
[55:54] So with recommended millages evening at 6.75,
[55:59] that's 3.06 over rollback. When you voted for maximum
[56:05] mileage at 6.95, getting my calculator here, mayor, if you take 6.95 divided
[56:14] by the rollback at no time where we ever more than 6.11% as a potential
[56:20] increase over last year, but that is always based on rollback. All the math, all the
[56:27] percentages are always based of the number over rollback.
[56:35] Your general fund mayor, we went through it line by line. Here is the adopted 2425 budget,
[56:46] versus the proposed 2526 proposed budget.
[56:54] I just want to point out just on a couple of items
[56:57] on your commission budget.
[57:04] I'd welcome the opportunity to meet with the public.
[57:06] I've answered several emails that I've received over the last few months.
[57:14] Mayor, there's nothing over a million dollars in your budget.
[57:18] You have a million dollars set aside for litigation and 343,000 for economic development
[57:24] other initiatives that was the AHAC.
[57:29] But then we move that per your directive to the non-departmental in the same line that we
[57:36] I'm put the Amazon tax rebate.
[57:41] So again, I would welcome any meeting with any member
[57:44] of the public to go over the line item details
[57:46] that was stated this evening.
[57:54] The ordinance review, a 75,000 that was done earlier
[57:57] during the workshop process where we were asked
[58:01] by consensus to put money aside,
[58:04] the fraud and compliance audit bid.
[58:07] That money is set aside.
[58:09] We've discussed on several meetings
[58:11] what the cost was. We put the $500,000 in the budget for that. The bids we put out. We
[58:19] mentioned, and I mentioned several meetings regarding the scope of service. I've not received
[58:25] anything from the commission mayor for many one on that, but we did go out there and look at other
[58:31] bids that were put out there. Use that scope because it's pretty similar to here in Deltona.
[58:37] Those beds are due on October the 13th, so we do have currently out on the street a bed for the fraud and compliance audit.
[58:52] Yes, sir.
[58:55] So one of the biggest items on our budget is our public safety.
[59:00] Our public safety here within Deltona is our police, which is contracted with a sheriff's office, fire and code enforcement.
[59:08] that's 57 percent of our budget. From this year to last year, it increased $1.9 million.
[59:19] And we'll talk more about that in a second. Another thing that was asked was regarding
[59:24] the project review monthly. Going into next fiscal year, the three of us here plus another
[59:31] member of the finance staff have put together an entire project monthly report that will give you the
[59:37] answers to the City Manager that was actually spoken by the individual earlier. I'd be
[59:42] more than happy to share that. These are all things that are in the works that we've been
[59:47] working on with Doc and the Deputy City Manager so that we can go into the next fiscal year
[59:52] being transparent. We already put a monthly financial report as I promised to you every month by the
[1:00:00] I was a day late last month, I apologize, but ever since we started doing that in March, we've been posting those monthly financials out on the city website.
[1:00:13] I just want to point out here, Mayor, that if I was to remove the transfers out, which is
[1:00:26] for the bottom line, which is basically general government, if we were to remove all the transfers out that funds CIP, the capital outlay,
[1:00:35] and the other items that don't belong in any one department.
[1:00:42] Then our budget would have only increased by $2.2 million or $4.03% over the prior year.
[1:00:52] From May 3rd to current, we've been provided with nine major items that has a huge budgetary impact to the city budget.
[1:01:04] We were required to put aside money for a hack, and I brought three examples on how to fund that back in May.
[1:01:11] So, that's $343,000 in next year's budget.
[1:01:15] At the last workshop August 25th,
[1:01:19] by consensus of everyone,
[1:01:21] of the commission that was at the meeting,
[1:01:24] they voted to raise it for us to put the budget together
[1:01:27] from 6.7 to 6.75,
[1:01:31] which is $269,000 difference,
[1:01:33] and that's for the seed money to start
[1:01:36] and enhance level of storm water, lake remediation,
[1:01:39] similar to what we do at Lake McGariety, that is a special assessment.
[1:01:44] We were also asked to set aside for future debt reduction that the General Fund's responsible
[1:01:50] for, which is the center of $33,000.
[1:01:56] Half a million dollars for the fraud and compliance audit,
[1:02:03] and I did provide a copy for each
[1:02:05] all this evening. Here's the historical last year 10 years of audit comments. So with the changes
[1:02:13] and leadership, whether at the city manager level, finance level or whatnot, which does typically
[1:02:19] require a higher risk for your auditors. We've had about the cleanest 10 year history you could
[1:02:26] possibly have in any government of this size.
[1:02:32] This budget has an additional million dollars of litigation.
[1:02:35] Then we have quite a few outstanding litigations out there that based on the estimated cost
[1:02:43] from your attorneys that were required to put that money aside because it's deemed
[1:02:51] going to come to fruition.
[1:02:55] Since July workshop, the city manager has been provided consensus to add to additional
[1:03:02] code compliance officers. That cost is $150,000. And we also will be required to outfet them
[1:03:11] with two vehicles. Those vehicles do not have the animal control boxes on the back. We budgeted
[1:03:20] $72,000. But again, that's one of the items that we believe doesn't warrant a full size F-150.
[1:03:28] So we're looking at Mavericks, and that's going to come in probably around $60,000 fully
[1:03:34] outfitted.
[1:03:35] Again, as I said previously, we have Bids coming back this Thursday, or quotes, so we're
[1:03:41] going to confirm that.
[1:03:44] So all these nine items are a little over 4.3 million.
[1:03:58] One of the other things I apologize, I missed two items, you also gave us for the budget,
[1:04:03] the allowance to add six additional firefighters.
[1:04:07] We're only budgeting 75% of them because we're not looking to hire them till January of next year for the enhanced level of transport services within the city.
[1:04:17] That's going to have a total cost for next year of $534,000.
[1:04:23] In addition to that, we recently back in June applied for a safer grant that we're hoping to fund that over a three-year period.
[1:04:33] So we put the money for the grant in next year's budget to help fund that and then finally
[1:04:40] on this page, as stated, the Sheriff's Department, we contract with them for our police
[1:04:47] services.
[1:04:48] Their increase was 1.15 million.
[1:04:51] If you go back and look at what was done by the committee at the county level, we were
[1:04:57] looking to see an increase upwards of over $20 million.
[1:05:01] So, the sheriff came in based on the law enforcement
[1:05:04] milling sets out there.
[1:05:07] It's only increased it to the little over 15 million
[1:05:10] or 1.1 million dollars.
[1:05:13] So, these are all items that we either are contractually required to
[1:05:17] or during the budget process, we got consensus to move forward
[1:05:21] in putting this budget as presented this evening.
[1:05:26] We have also looked at reductions.
[1:05:28] There were 12 open positions that had been open for the entire fiscal year of 24, 25.
[1:05:38] Those were eliminated.
[1:05:40] They were not filled positions vacant.
[1:05:42] That's over a million dollars.
[1:05:44] The nine of those positions were in the general fund and that had a savings of 772,000 to the general fund specifically.
[1:05:55] In this year's budget, there are some key capital funded by the General Fund.
[1:06:02] As I stated, May 3rd, all capital outlay, all CIP, was funded by prior year set aside.
[1:06:11] We set aside the money annually by policy for the vehicle replacement.
[1:06:18] And then because we have had so much reserves left over the last few years, it was
[1:06:25] directed that we were to fund all of this via fund balance so there is no impact any of the
[1:06:32] capital that is in next year's proposed budget coming from ad valorem proceeds for the current
[1:06:37] fiscal year. The total funded capital is 6.5 million.
[1:06:47] This evening is one of two required
[1:06:51] public hearings to set the budget. In order to pass the
[1:06:56] military, there must be a passage by resolution. If there is no
[1:07:02] resolution passed for the budget, whether tentative or final, you
[1:07:07] do not go back to rollback. Per state statute, a taxing authority may
[1:07:16] only levy a village if a resolution is passed by both the tentative and the final
[1:07:22] village. So this process this evening is dictated by the state. Statute
[1:07:29] said is.
[1:07:33] Thank you Mr. McKinney. Commissioner of Yola Vasquez, you're on the
[1:07:37] board. Thank you, Mayor. Actually, I'm going to scratch one question. It was
[1:07:42] answered. I just have a question that I will be heard a comment. I have to
[1:07:47] agenda, which is the update of one?
[1:08:00] Thank you.
[1:08:17] Any other comments, questions from Commissioner Arlington?
[1:08:22] Thank you, Mayor. So I initially had a PowerPoint presentation, but that gave
[1:08:26] Doc some angst, so I'm not going to put that up tonight, but I will talk about it.
[1:08:32] Tonight we're discussing whether or not we consider a full rollback at 6.5494 or the proposed
[1:08:40] rate of 6.75 for the record. Yes, I did vote for the lake cleaning. However, I did not agree
[1:08:50] at that time to a 6.7 versus 6.75 milliderate. I have been asking for a full rollback from
[1:08:56] the beginning.
[1:09:00] This new rate represents 3.06 percent increase or $1.1 million over the rollback
[1:09:07] I
[1:09:11] ran some graphs this week as I was prepping for the meetings, which I have here and I'm happy to share them with anybody.
[1:09:17] But as you can see, we have doubled our costs over the past 10 years, specifically starting in 2010,
[1:09:27] or sorry, 2022. I don't know what happened in 2022, but we started spending like crazy.
[1:09:33] And as we know to get back to full rollback, it's what you spent the prior year plus inflation.
[1:09:40] So, every year we're growing that money.
[1:09:43] And so when we've grown since COVID, nearly 200%, I have to question, what are we doing?
[1:09:52] How can we not run this city more efficiently?
[1:09:57] I've offered ideas, I've offered options, they seem to fall on deaf ears.
[1:10:02] I'm asking once again, looking at how we've increased our spending, I've run this by resident as well as the total expenditures and it's the same trend.
[1:10:16] So I can't justify this. I cannot justify continuing to take more and more money from our residents.
[1:10:26] We can't afford the government we have and our residents deserve to be able to afford their government.
[1:10:31] I have a resident this house burned down because he couldn't afford his electric bill and his house caught on fire trying to cook himself food.
[1:10:42] I've had elderly residents reach out and say that they can't afford to put food on the table and begged me not to raise the tax rate.
[1:10:50] I can't justify this. We have to figure it out. I've provided options, but obviously it's up to this board of six now,
[1:11:00] because number seven left the city because he can't afford to live here anymore.
[1:11:10] So I'm asking everybody to please take these things into account.
[1:11:13] Our residents can no longer afford to live here.
[1:11:17] Thank you.
[1:11:19] Nice Mary, Harriet.
[1:11:21] And then Commissioner Reelabaskos.
[1:11:23] Interesting comment at the end.
[1:11:28] I talked with a resident after the meeting last week that was concerned
[1:11:35] because his tax system noticed said that he had a $1,100 increase or over $1,000 increase
[1:11:41] to his tax bill. After looking at the actual wine item increases on his tax bill, only $30
[1:11:50] of that was because of Deltono. And that trim notice was issued at 6.95 mils. When he calculated
[1:11:59] out to 6.75. He actually had a lower tax bill or would have a lower tax bill next year than
[1:12:07] he did this year.
[1:12:12] We're voting on next year's budget.
[1:12:16] So I hear everybody but Deltona is not the
[1:12:21] only taxing authority on your trim notice. When your tax bill is going up a thousand dollars or
[1:12:25] it's going up a couple thousand dollars, it's got a look at the line for Deltona. If you look
[1:12:32] the line for Deltono. That is the only line that this commission has any influence in control
[1:12:38] over. Every single trim notice that I have seen or looked at when calculated out at 6.75
[1:12:47] is going down. There was a Facebook post last week or the week before last, or somebody made
[1:12:55] a comment about their tax, their tax will going up. And there was the overwhelming majority
[1:13:02] comments on there, said, well, my text bills going down.
[1:13:07] So not saying that we
[1:13:07] governed by Facebook, we don't, but that's for a group of residents, where it's
[1:13:13] the easiest, it's the easiest place to complain about something.
[1:13:19] And their
[1:13:19] comments were overwhelmingly, my text bills going down. I also know some residents
[1:13:25] that have left Deltono recently, actually quite a few of them in a couple of
[1:13:28] that are in the process of leaving, and it's not because of their tax bill going up.
[1:13:36] It's actually because the quality of life here is significantly less than what they would
[1:13:42] expect. They want more investment into parks. They want better roads. They want the stormwater
[1:13:47] fixed. Everybody wants these things, but that has to be paid for.
[1:13:55] There was a comment about
[1:13:56] how immaculate our parks are.
[1:14:00] I disagree.
[1:14:02] I think that we have a lot of work to do on our parks.
[1:14:05] To bring them up to the standard that our residents expect.
[1:14:09] I think that this budget does a lot to get us there.
[1:14:14] But there will always be more work to do.
[1:14:16] There's always going to be another part
[1:14:17] that needs to be improved.
[1:14:22] The notion that anybody was promised
[1:14:24] for the last three years that we were going to go to rollback
[1:14:28] is silly. I think there's only two commissioners up here that we're here three years ago.
[1:14:36] My promise to residents has always been that we will invest in the city and we will make it the best that we can.
[1:14:43] And I think that this budget does that by lowering a lot of people's tax bills, spending money on stormwater infrastructure, spending the money on our park infrastructure,
[1:14:55] Thank you for spending the money on enhancing our fire department.
[1:15:00] All of those things are things that I've heard from everybody that we need to spend more money on, they expect us to spend money on.
[1:15:06] And so if we can reduce our tax bill and still accomplish that goal of enhancing the city services, then that's what we were voted here for.
[1:15:16] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:15:21] Any more comments? If not, we're going to go to a good city attorney.
[1:15:27] Yes, Mr. Mayor. Before you vote, the Finance Director does have a required statement that he needs to read.
[1:15:33] I understand.
[1:15:39] Mayor.
[1:15:42] I apologize again for some of this I've already said but I'm
[1:15:44] supposed to say it before we do the vote. With the recess of the first public hearing
[1:15:49] from Wednesday, September 3rd until Monday, September 8th, it is necessary to
[1:15:53] reschedule the final public hearing until Monday, September 22nd in order to allow for
[1:15:59] the proper notification in the newspaper. So we would have to have a special meeting on
[1:16:05] set timbre 22nd to allow for that time. All notifications regarding the recess for
[1:16:11] made in compliance with trim everything was posted on the main city website along
[1:16:17] with the page that we've posted all of the budget documents for this fiscal year 2526
[1:16:24] process. This rescheduled meeting will be considered a special city commission meeting.
[1:16:30] The fiscal year 2025-2026 budget commences on October 1, 2025 and continues through September 30,
[1:16:39] 2026 for the City of Deltono.
[1:16:42] The City Commission shall discuss the tendency of a village necessary to find the fiscal year
[1:16:46] 2025-2026 final budget for the City of Deltono.
[1:16:50] The City of Deltono is the taxing authority and the current year taxable value for operating
[1:16:55] purposes is $5,671,597,678.
[1:17:02] The adopted tenet of millidrate of $6.75 per $1,000 of valuation is a 3.06% increase in
[1:17:11] advalorant tax revenues above the rollback rate of $6.594.
[1:17:18] I have placed on the dius for everyone this evening that cost of public records that I
[1:17:23] asked to do on two individuals, along with every member of the commission.
[1:17:29] The average taxable value for a residential unit within Delton and next year is a little
[1:17:37] over $122,000, first is last year's $1,019,000.
[1:17:43] We're looking at an overall increase for the average residential property within Delton of $6.84
[1:17:51] for a 12-month period. As the Vice Mayor said, I only look at the Deltono portion. I'm not the overall
[1:17:59] tax bill. We're looking at $6.84. Except for the mayor who rents everyone else's taxes for
[1:18:08] next year did show a decrease over this year. So if I take into account all the members of the
[1:18:21] for the members of Commission plus the average.
[1:18:26] So that $6.84 for the average.
[1:18:30] I wish it was the simple as multiply that by 38,000,
[1:18:34] you know, single family residential parcels.
[1:18:37] However, I said the 1, 22 is the average and that doesn't take
[1:18:41] into account the commercial properties, the publics, the lows, the Amazon,
[1:18:48] the film, it centers, et cetera.
[1:18:52] This increase in millage over the rollback rate is for funding that the operations debt service
[1:18:58] capital outlay and capital improvement programs of the city of Deltona.
[1:19:03] Major changes from last year as has followed, a hack funding of 343,000, stormwater
[1:19:09] lake remediation of 269,000, general fund debt reduction, 333,000, fraud and compliance
[1:19:16] audit of $500,000 additional litigation of $1,000,000 to additional cut-off serves
[1:19:22] of $149,000 to additional vehicles for the above officers of $72,000, $6,000 additional
[1:19:29] firefighters funded at 75% of a fiscal year of $5,000 and $34,000 shares contract increased
[1:19:35] of $1.15 million.
[1:19:36] All other department fund departments decreased with the exception of the public works due
[1:19:42] the nature of their business, and the reduction of 12 positions within the city,
[1:19:47] nine of them within the general fund, with a reduction of 772,000, plus the capital improvements
[1:19:53] funded by the general fund, the land acquisition of repetitive loss properties of a million,
[1:19:58] fire training complex, a 250,000 park capital improvements, a 4.25 million, and the Catalina
[1:20:05] Boulevard, and El Campbell of our elevation of the HMGP grant of a little over $1 million.
[1:20:11] 1 million dollars. This budget includes all operating capital
[1:20:15] costs for fiscal year 2026. This budget includes the general
[1:20:19] special revenue debt service capital enterprise and
[1:20:22] internal service funds. The proposed citywide fiscal year 2025 2026
[1:20:27] budget for all funds is $245 million, $6.83, $379. Thank you, Mayor.
[1:20:35] Before you read the full proposal, we have Vice Mayor and
[1:20:39] Commissioner of the Vasquez I want to speak, and then you can read the required motion.
[1:20:45] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:20:46] So do we have this request that could be a slide or shown to everybody?
[1:20:58] It'll be posted on the website this evening before we leave.
[1:21:01] All right.
[1:21:02] So just so everybody.
[1:21:04] Without the addresses.
[1:21:08] It's a public record.
[1:21:10] No, it's not public record.
[1:21:12] It will not be posted.
[1:21:13] And Zach, take care of this.
[1:21:18] Yeah, we will ensure that all reduction is done properly and ensure that this is done
[1:21:27] compliant with law.
[1:21:33] So just to summarize what is in front of us,
[1:21:41] district one, commissioners, property value,
[1:21:44] or tax bills going down $2.93, district two, commissioners, probably.
[1:21:52] You're going to blow information.
[1:21:55] That's just the idea.
[1:21:56] You're going to come up with.
[1:22:01] I'll clarify without.
[1:22:03] Okay.
[1:22:04] And then after you, I call, all right?
[1:22:06] Thank you.
[1:22:06] Just to clarify, out of all of us on here,
[1:22:11] that owns homes, everybody's tax bill is going down.
[1:22:17] It just proves the point that there are some exceptions to that,
[1:22:21] but they are a few and far between.
[1:22:25] Commissionary the Vaskos, can you click on your mic?
[1:22:29] Thank you.
[1:22:30] You know, I try not to make too many comments when it comes to real estate taxes,
[1:22:36] because I always get a tack.
[1:22:39] Because as a wife of 100% disabled Vietnam veteran,
[1:22:44] we do not pay real estate taxes.
[1:22:47] Those are his benefits.
[1:22:49] I like to know, and even though his public record,
[1:22:51] who gave permission to put my information on a piece of paper like this?
[1:22:57] Because I'm the only one in this piece of paper that has zero on it.
[1:23:02] So even though it's public record, I never gave permission to put this on paper.
[1:23:08] If anybody wants to look at it, then let them go look at public records.
[1:23:11] And I'm tired.
[1:23:12] I was saying, because you guys like to bring up Facebook,
[1:23:15] I will send a snapshot of a common may-by-device may-are saying that if everybody in the city pay taxes and most of more than 50% of people in Delta on it don't pay taxes, I got a news for you, that 50% are veterans who are 100% disabled.
[1:23:37] Those are the only ones who do not pay 100% taxes, so let's stop picking on the veterans.
[1:23:43] All right, let's stop picking on them, and I'm always put in the spot.
[1:23:48] I'm always using an example, and I'm tired of it.
[1:23:51] My husband's been two years in the war in Vietnam, and he's not even getting a piece
[1:23:57] of what he deserved.
[1:23:59] So let's stop this.
[1:24:03] All right, let's bring it back.
[1:24:07] Can you please read the, the, I think, I think Mayor, just, just, just for correction, Mayor,
[1:24:13] the paper in front of you was not given out to the public.
[1:24:15] that was just for the commission, because a lot of comments are made that all the taxes
[1:24:19] are going up, thousands of dollars as we heard tonight, and it was evident of when you
[1:24:23] look at the seven leadership, this is the information, but it was exclusive for you, and
[1:24:27] as it was mentioned up, putting on line the first thing we said is, no addresses are
[1:24:30] anything else.
[1:24:31] Excuse me?
[1:24:33] It was decided among you three to give it out.
[1:24:36] For the commissioners to see what happened.
[1:24:38] I was not involved in this.
[1:24:39] So I must have been you.
[1:24:40] It was a response to me, I didn't know about it until tonight.
[1:24:45] It was a response when you hear, as you heard tonight, the statements that everybody's
[1:24:50] taxes went up thousands of dollars, people can't eat or anything else.
[1:24:53] It was an example for the commissioners to see, no, that is not correct information, but
[1:24:57] that was not information that was being put out to the public whatsoever.
[1:25:01] All right.
[1:25:02] Well, it's all public record anyway, what taxes are in water bills and everything else.
[1:25:06] So, it is not a secret that we give that information anyway.
[1:25:09] Thank you.
[1:25:09] All right, Vice Mayor, and then Commissioner Howington, did you still order?
[1:25:14] Yeah. Okay. Vice Mayor, and let's bring it back.
[1:25:17] We don't need to be having this back and forth.
[1:25:20] So I want to be clear that my comment was not directed
[1:25:25] at any specific commissioner whatsoever.
[1:25:28] Greatly.
[1:25:28] That's why my name is Black.
[1:25:30] Well, I don't.
[1:25:30] That's why there's no figures on my name.
[1:25:32] I didn't know about this until it was actually just mentioned.
[1:25:38] But it is not true that 50% of the residents that don't pay property tax in the city are veterans.
[1:25:45] That's not factual whatsoever.
[1:25:50] And the fact that only 50% are roughly there about 50% of the residents are exempt from paying property taxes is the contributing, major contributing factor to why we do have the tax rate that we have.
[1:26:05] That's a fact.
[1:26:08] So, I don't need it to clear that up.
[1:26:10] It's not, it has nothing to do with veterans.
[1:26:13] It's not an attack on veterans whatsoever.
[1:26:15] In fact, I believe that there's a very small percentage
[1:26:19] that are veterans that receive that discount.
[1:26:23] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:26:24] Next.
[1:26:26] Can we please, Mr. McKenney, can you please read the required motion?
[1:26:34] Yes, sir.
[1:26:38] To recap for item 7A, which is the tentative village, it would be it's a motion to approve resolution number
[1:26:44] 2025-121 adopting the city of Delton of fiscal year 2025-126 tentative village rate of 6.7500 mills per 1,000 evaluation.
[1:26:59] If I can please add the city clerk call the roll.
[1:27:06] You have to request a mic, please.
[1:27:11] Commissioner Bill of S class? No.
[1:27:17] We're not clapping. Commissioner Callwell? No.
[1:27:21] Commissioner Howington? No.
[1:27:24] Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet?
[1:27:31] Yes.
[1:27:33] Mayor Bill. Yes.
[1:27:38] The motion fills.
[1:27:42] All right. This time we'll do it. We'll take a recess.
[1:27:45] So the city manager with the city attorney can meet each commission or
[1:27:50] individual we're not going to have the fiasco we have last year.
[1:27:52] We're going to meet with each commissioner individually in the back city attorney do you have instructions?
[1:27:58] Commissioner of the last because I understand you're frustrated he's going to explain it.
[1:28:03] We need to we need to calm it down, right?
[1:28:05] Let the city attorney explain it, please so
[1:28:09] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So if it is the
[1:28:13] If it is the will of the body, we can take a recess to allow the manager and his staff
[1:28:22] to meet individually with each commissioner to discuss a amended tentative
[1:28:34] military that could be presented by staff in order to allow this to move forward tonight.
[1:28:42] It is a requirement as Mr. Mr. McKinney noted that the commission does have to pass a
[1:28:52] resolution enacting a tentative budget in order to meet state statute. Excuse me.
[1:28:58] Sure. I know this seems common to you. This is not funny. This is not a game. It's not a joke.
[1:29:03] We're trying to conduct business and you can make faces at me all you want, respectfully.
[1:29:08] You're doing yourself at this service.
[1:29:10] So I'm asking you to respectfully let us conduct business so we can try to get this
[1:29:14] figured out.
[1:29:15] Continue city attorney.
[1:29:18] So we can take a 15 or 30 minute recess to allow those conversations to happen and allow
[1:29:24] staff to come back and present a revised tentative military for the commission's consideration.
[1:29:33] you, someone who was on the, I guess the, the side of the motion could offer an alternative
[1:29:46] motion so that would be the vice mayor and Commissioner Santiago who were the maker in the
[1:29:57] second, they could offer an alternative motion.
[1:30:00] At this time, however, if that is not going to be done, then we could continue directly to the recess.
[1:30:15] All right, we have Vice Mayor, then call well, then Commissioner Villabascos.
[1:30:21] Thank you, Mayor. My only request is that if we do proceed with a recess to have individual discussions,
[1:30:27] that we keep the live streams streaming to prevent the false accusations of two people that
[1:30:34] were in this room right now. The occurred last year.
[1:30:40] Commissioner Cawa. Zach, is it state mandatory that we come to an agreement today?
[1:30:47] So in order to meet state statute, you are required to enact by resolution a tentative
[1:30:57] military,
[1:31:01] correct me if I'm wrong.
[1:31:02] I believe that in order to make the prescribed timeline, it could be done at a later date.
[1:31:14] What is, it all depends on the advertising deadlines of the newspapers.
[1:31:17] So I'm going to defer to Mr. McKinney.
[1:31:22] Commissioner, the latest in order to comply with all the notifications would be Wednesday, September the 17th.
[1:31:32] To pass a tentative village, which would mean that we would have to hold our final public hearing on Monday, September 29th.
[1:31:43] the only caveat to that would be typically speaking as we're in a particular season here in Florida.
[1:31:54] We could be impacted, you never know, and that then puts a caveat in it, and then typically
[1:32:00] the governor would issue an executive order that could extend it for the typically the final public
[1:32:09] hearing, usually the first public hearing occurs no later than September 15th.
[1:32:16] So our 15 minute meeting is going to be just about the ruleback or the military?
[1:32:20] Yes, sir.
[1:32:21] And not the budget.
[1:32:22] Because I believe to get to where we want to be.
[1:32:24] The budget is going to have to be discussed also.
[1:32:27] Yes, that's correct.
[1:32:29] So if you're able to come to.
[1:32:33] Well, if the commission decides the rollback, then you're going to have to decide what projects
[1:32:37] are cutting from the budget, so it would be related to both.
[1:32:41] So we can accomplish that in 15 minutes?
[1:32:43] No.
[1:32:44] Okay.
[1:32:44] But we can talk.
[1:32:48] Commissioner Vasquez.
[1:32:54] I sort of have got my answer.
[1:32:56] Thank you.
[1:32:57] Commissioner Howington?
[1:33:00] I just want to remind everybody that last year's budget have $1.1 million removed from it, but
[1:33:06] it was kept in the millage rate.
[1:33:09] So, this year's rollback is already based on a trumped up number from last year that had 1.1 million dollars of unencumbered funds.
[1:33:20] That is enough to get us to a full rollback.
[1:33:35] So, at this time, if Mayor, if you'd like to...
[1:33:40] We're going to go ahead and go into a recess to see how much time we can come.
[1:33:46] something, then we'll have to obviously table the matter. So 30 minutes? Is the size okay
[1:33:55] with a 30 minute recess?
[1:33:58] No, it's 30 minutes and whole, right? Or did you want to do 15 minutes
[1:34:03] each?
[1:34:06] Go ahead, city attorney? Yeah, I was, so you guys think we start with 30 minutes total and
[1:34:15] and then we can extend if needed.
[1:34:18] All right.
[1:34:19] Just again, that will be a quick conversation, but.
[1:34:22] A expectation that everybody who's not speaking to whoever is staying away from the back.
[1:34:29] We have a 30 minute recess.
[2:36:00] The meeting back up from recess. This time, we're going to entertain a motion and the second.
[2:36:09] And we have Commissioner Howington is first, Commissioner Howington.
[2:36:14] I'd like to make a motion.
[2:36:17] Go ahead, Commissioner Howington.
[2:36:19] To adopt a tentative village for the fiscal year 202526 at the full rollback rate of 6.5494 per thousand dollars.
[2:36:29] There's a motion by Commissioner Howington, Commissioner Coel.
[2:36:32] Second, second by Commissioner Coel.
[2:36:35] If we can please vote,
[2:36:39] City Clerk, you will have to do a roll call.
[2:36:46] That's what my paper says, sorry.
[2:36:51] And if all the commissioners can just turn on their mics,
[2:36:53] and I'm just going to turn them all on.
[2:36:55] Commissioner, I feel the best voice.
[2:36:59] I'm sorry.
[2:37:07] I have a question.
[2:37:10] I have a question.
[2:37:13] So if this motion fails, this is another motion.
[2:37:16] And then if that motion fails, there's another motion.
[2:37:22] No.
[2:37:27] Commissioner Callwell?
[2:37:28] No.
[2:37:29] Oh, yes.
[2:37:30] I'm sorry.
[2:37:31] Yes.
[2:37:31] This is for Doris.
[2:37:33] Okay, yes.
[2:37:34] Commissioner Howington?
[2:37:37] Yes.
[2:37:38] Commissioner Satyago?
[2:37:40] No.
[2:37:42] Vice Mayor Harriet?
[2:37:43] No.
[2:37:45] Mayor Bella.
[2:37:46] No.
[2:37:48] The fails.
[2:37:49] Motion fails two to four at this time. I wanted to take good, vice-mer. I'd like to make a motion.
[2:37:56] Turn on your mic again, please because I have to turn them all off.
[2:38:01] Go ahead. I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution number 20 25-121 adopting the tentative
[2:38:09] millage.
[2:38:11] Can I see your paper?
[2:38:15] The tentative millage rate of 6.70 mills per $1,000 evaluation.
[2:38:22] Okay, there's a motion by Vice Mayor, Vice Mayor Harriet, Commissioner Sonsarrier next
[2:38:27] on the board.
[2:38:28] Second.
[2:38:29] There's a second.
[2:38:30] Can we please go for...
[2:38:31] Go ahead, Zudia, Attorney.
[2:38:33] Just if you could please state the village up to four decimal places.
[2:38:39] 6.7, 0, 0, 0, 0, per 1,000.
[2:38:45] Thank you.
[2:38:47] And further resident...
[2:38:48] Well done.
[2:38:48] It was written down.
[2:38:49] for the resident said that it was written down.
[2:38:51] There's literally a script here.
[2:38:53] I just changed the numbers on it.
[2:38:56] Okay.
[2:38:56] Is that good for you?
[2:38:58] The city attorney.
[2:39:04] Commissioner Abilabasquas.
[2:39:08] This is what the milit rate I was discussed at the workshop.
[2:39:12] So that's what I'm going to agree to.
[2:39:15] Yes.
[2:39:17] Commissioner Clawwell?
[2:39:18] No.
[2:39:20] Commissioner Howington?
[2:39:21] No.
[2:39:23] Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet? Yes. Mayor Villa? Yes. That passes. Okay. The motion passes forward to.
[2:39:37] All right. At this time, we're going to go to section B. If I can please have the city attorney read the next section, please.
[2:39:46] Yes, Mr. Mayor, so as we previously discussed this evening, we held a collective public hearing
[2:39:54] on both TAB 7A and 7B, so this will be TAB 7B resolution 2025-122, a resolution of the
[2:40:06] city commission of the city of Dalton of Florida, adopting the tentative budget for each of
[2:40:10] several funds and apartments of the city for the fiscal year-beating October 125, and ending
[2:40:16] September 30th, 2026, approving the tentative capital improvement plan, providing for appropriation
[2:40:21] and procedures, providing for scrubbers' errors, and providing for an effective date, and the
[2:40:25] finance director will have an updated total budget number for you based on the approved tentative
[2:40:32] military of 6.7000.
[2:40:39] Go ahead. Yes, Mayor. This budget includes all operating in capital
[2:40:44] cost for FISCY or 2025-2026. This budget includes the general special revenue debt service capital
[2:40:51] enterprise and internal service funds. The proposed citywide FISCY or 2025-2026 budget for all funds
[2:40:59] is $245,447,034.
[2:41:04] Go
[2:41:10] ahead.
[2:41:12] Just for clarification.
[2:41:13] What was the last number?
[2:41:15] Zero three four.
[2:41:20] All right.
[2:41:20] This time on our entertainer motion to begin discussion.
[2:41:25] And then we'll go to.
[2:41:28] Go ahead.
[2:41:28] Vice Mayor.
[2:41:29] Here we go.
[2:41:30] I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution.
[2:41:32] Number twenty twenty five dash twenty dash one twenty two.
[2:41:36] Adopt in the tentative budget for FY twenty five twenty six.
[2:41:40] And the amount of $245,470,000 and $34,000.
[2:41:48] Commissioner or a Vila Vescos?
[2:41:50] I have a comment.
[2:41:51] A question, actually.
[2:41:53] So, with the village that we approved, it eliminates a project.
[2:42:01] So, this budget that we're approving, is that budget still considered in?
[2:42:05] I mean, is that plan still considered in the budget that we're approving?
[2:42:09] No, he just reduced that out of the budget, Mr. McKinney, can you please go ahead.
[2:42:16] Yes, Mayor, by reducing from 6.75 to 6.70, that reduced the budget by 269,400 of
[2:42:25] one dollars.
[2:42:28] Okay.
[2:42:30] It's for the stormwater lake remediation.
[2:42:32] Thank you.
[2:42:33] That's exactly what I was going to ask you to let the audience know what project is it that
[2:42:37] removing to bring it down to 6.7.
[2:42:41] That is correct.
[2:42:42] All right. Thank you.
[2:42:44] We're waiting for a second.
[2:42:49] Commissioner Santiago.
[2:42:51] A second.
[2:42:55] Vice Mayor.
[2:42:56] I want to be a very transparent
[2:42:58] the discussion that we had was removing that
[2:43:02] and then looking
[2:43:04] reevaluating that when we talk about additional
[2:43:09] We have a workshop coming up, I believe in October, November, timeframe to discuss street lighting and some other things.
[2:43:15] And so we would revisit more comprehensive plan for aquatic weed control at that time.
[2:43:26] Okay, any other discussion from the dives?
[2:43:35] Commissioner Villabasquas?
[2:43:37] Yes.
[2:43:39] Commissioner Callwell?
[2:43:40] No.
[2:43:42] Commissioner Howington?
[2:43:43] No.
[2:43:44] Commissioner Satyago? Yes. Vice Mayor Harriet?
[2:43:49] Yeah. Mayor Beola? Yes.
[2:43:52] Passes. One, two. Motion passes forward to two.
[2:43:57] All right. This time we're going to go to section seven.
[2:43:59] Seas and Charlie, if I can please get the city attorney to.
[2:44:06] Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is an item for discussion regarding the
[2:44:16] as per city charter section 5, 7, B, 2,
[2:44:20] quote, if, however, the remainder of the unexpired term exceeds two years,
[2:44:24] the remaining commissioners shall within 30 days following the occurrence
[2:44:28] of such vacancy by majority vote, a point a person to fill the vacancy
[2:44:31] until the next regularly scheduled city election.
[2:44:34] And this is for you all to discuss as a body,
[2:44:40] this resignation and any process that you may like to follow
[2:44:45] regarding appointment.
[2:44:46] All right.
[2:44:47] Just to accept parameters, we're not going to do a motion right now, we're going to discuss
[2:44:50] this.
[2:44:51] I'm only going to ask, let's keep all the personal stuff out of this.
[2:44:55] This is the process on how we're going to like someone and Commissioner Villabasco as you
[2:44:59] are for.
[2:45:00] But just want to lay that out there. This is a discussion on the process and how we're going to implement it. Go ahead, Commissioner.
[2:45:06] Thank you, Mayor. So we do have a process that has been working for many years and I would like to continue using the process, which is having all the names of the people that have put in for this position for the district commission for district six.
[2:45:30] And, you know, they get rated.
[2:45:32] So I would like to keep that process that has been working for us.
[2:45:38] Just for clarification, I would also include the voting at the end,
[2:45:41] because that is the only thing the trigger requires.
[2:45:44] We do the rating system, and then we all have to vote at the end.
[2:45:50] No.
[2:45:51] We have a rating system, and whoever has the lowest total is the one that gets elected,
[2:45:57] because it goes, you go from selecting, so if you have five, four people, you go,
[2:46:05] person one, two, three, or four, or one, four, three, or one, whatever, and then
[2:46:11] they total those votes, and whoever gets to lowest, correct, but number gets,
[2:46:16] even then we all voted for, no, we don't vote.
[2:46:18] So we have, that is, Mr. Mayor, if I may, it is a requirement of sunshine
[2:46:25] that there be a formal motion at a second on the floor in order to ensure that a system such
[2:46:35] as this would not be perceived as a secret ballot. So you may certainly use a ranking system
[2:46:42] but you would still have to have a motion in a second to adopt the lowest or high strength
[2:46:50] candidate on the floor, so you can use that system, but there would still have to be a verbal vote
[2:46:59] on the floor in order to meet the requirements of sunshine just as a slate and nuance to that.
[2:47:09] All right, choice is that part of the voting?
[2:47:13] Click on the voting. Just so everyone else can hear you hold on. Go address.
[2:47:18] Right, so once you rank them in the lowest person would normally have gotten the first vote in the past, you've done a motion for that person and a vote for that person.
[2:47:30] So it doesn't include the motion in the votes.
[2:47:35] You have a commissioner call while you're obnoxious in the vice mayor.
[2:47:38] My question is we're along the same line.
[2:47:39] Does the mislead here?
[2:47:40] So we did have a vote at the end when we voted in the two commissions.
[2:47:44] I don't believe that we had that,
[2:47:50] but that's all I have.
[2:47:52] Just can we verify it? Because I remember like with Troy, we all voted. I think only one person voted against Troy
[2:48:00] Yeah, so just for clarification, please. All right, Vice Mayor Harry you're up next
[2:48:07] Thank you, Mayor
[2:48:09] As one of the
[2:48:10] Commissioners that was appointed through that process and I I'm gonna be very
[2:48:17] I want to preface this with I will speak personally about myself and none of my comments
[2:48:28] are about any specific commissioners that are on the diet.
[2:48:34] Somebody that went through that process was ranked, was voted on, ultimately appointed,
[2:48:40] seen that process for myself and another commissioner.
[2:48:44] I know for a fact that there are ways to gain that process and I truly believe that that process was
[2:48:51] gained in that instance those instances. For that reason I do not support using that process.
[2:48:58] Ultimately it requires a vote at the end regardless. I would prefer to see dialogue amongst us and then a motion made by somebody
[2:49:09] on the Diaz and then a vote.
[2:49:16] Any other comments?
[2:49:17] Commission or something?
[2:49:20] I agree with Harriet, the system is flawed.
[2:49:25] When you do the ranking from one to four to one through six,
[2:49:31] personally I had, when I was, when I submitted my application,
[2:49:37] that system was flawed.
[2:49:39] It was evident, because I had the support of four,
[2:49:43] but yet they still voted for the lowest.
[2:49:47] So kind of the way the numbering system worked
[2:49:51] was very flawed.
[2:49:52] So definitely do not agree with it.
[2:49:55] I think we should just stick with the voting.
[2:49:59] I think it's easier.
[2:50:01] It's cleaner and it gives the commissioners
[2:50:07] a more, you'll see who supports the district six.
[2:50:13] I think it's just a fair way to do it.
[2:50:16] Thanks.
[2:50:20] Any other comments before we go to Motion Commissioner Hamilton?
[2:50:24] We saw what happened with the voting when we did the Vice Mayor vote.
[2:50:27] And I believe that there are some people out in the audience who would contend that that was gameed as well.
[2:50:33] So, either way we do it.
[2:50:36] There's potential for risk.
[2:50:38] Obviously, we've done it this way.
[2:50:40] We hired attorneys this way.
[2:50:41] We hired a city manager this way.
[2:50:43] We brought in at least one currently sitting commissioner, as well as two previous in the past four years using the other process.
[2:50:54] So, I agree with Commissioner Villabasca's and Commissioner Gaulwell.
[2:51:02] Commissioner Vasca's.
[2:51:04] Thank you, Mayor.
[2:51:04] In as far as being, it's a public record.
[2:51:09] I don't anybody can request to see who voted for who so it's not like it's a dirty
[2:51:17] or you know use to make illegal or whatever vote.
[2:51:25] The process is you vote one through whatever number of people of there, one, two, three,
[2:51:32] one will be your favorite, two will be your next favorite,
[2:51:36] time will be, I don't want that person, and then they add it up,
[2:51:39] and whoever gets the least means that they were voted number one,
[2:51:43] or number two, that's how it happens, and that's how the person gets
[2:51:49] selected and then I guess made a motion on.
[2:51:53] So we're going to public comment please, because there's nobody else on the board.
[2:51:59] Kathy Bryan, please.
[2:52:06] Ms. Bryan, when you come up to the bottom, just push the bar and so I can open them
[2:52:09] please thank you and then you can leave it on
[2:52:18] tonight okay thank you Kathy
[2:52:20] Brian Deltona I'm not going to disagree with Dory because that was the first
[2:52:24] thing I thought when you talked about the system being gained by rank any
[2:52:28] system can be gained let's face it with the ranking there's a little bit of a
[2:52:33] paper trail and then I think you get a general feeling of more than just one
[2:52:39] person that somebody makes a nomination for quickly and then y'all vote
[2:52:45] You could vote them down, but this gives you at least a couple of options up at the top.
[2:52:50] So if you decide maybe the top options not the best, then you look at the second one.
[2:52:58] I feel like it's a fairer way to do it in a system that sometimes there's just no fair.
[2:53:07] Because I feel like there's already been a lot of Hanky Panky with this one already, just from different things I've read, different things I've seen, et cetera.
[2:53:14] So, that being the case, please leave politics out of this, and I'm saying that to every single one of you and even those of you who say I don't do politics because this day is one of the most divided ones I've seen in a long time.
[2:53:37] And I know we've had others that have been, who is truly going to look after the best interest
[2:53:46] of District 6, not what you guys want for everywhere else, not what you want for District 2,
[2:53:51] but not what you want for District 5, not what you want for District 1, who's going to take care
[2:53:56] of District 6 because I really love to see the push to keep Delta in a while to go out there.
[2:54:02] If possible, the other thing is who's the best person for the job, who's got the most
[2:54:11] background, you know, not going to be starting fresh, having to learn a bunch of stuff.
[2:54:18] We all do have to learn, but who's going to be somebody that's had some experience and business
[2:54:26] or in government, et cetera, that can come in and get things done.
[2:54:33] I'm not touting for anyone person at all.
[2:54:37] Half of those people I saw in the list I've never heard of, but think about who's going
[2:54:42] to be the best for not just a district six, but for the city as a whole too, because let's
[2:54:48] face it every single one of you votes on things that affect all of our lives.
[2:54:53] So think about that. Think about it hard and made a best person win for the job. Thank you.
[2:55:02] Thank you. Laurie, want to keep please?
[2:55:10] Good evening. I'm Laurie Warner-key and I live in District 6 and I would hope that you all.
[2:55:16] I've met every one of you. I've talked to every one of you.
[2:55:20] I would like you to find someone to replace Nick that stood up like Nick did.
[2:55:26] I felt Nick had our back, all I had to do is email him or text him and he had an answer.
[2:55:33] I appreciate all you're doing.
[2:55:36] I would love to see you come together and put someone in that position that will help
[2:55:44] the residents and that will show up for Piny.
[2:55:47] Thank you.
[2:55:49] Thank you.
[2:55:50] David, so please?
[2:56:02] Dave says a former commissioner for District 6.
[2:56:06] When I heard about Nick's Reg is a nation, I decided I had to step up and fill these last
[2:56:10] 15 months before an actual election.
[2:56:13] I think it's important that the people vote for who they want to represent them.
[2:56:19] Unfortunately, during the way this is going to proceed, it's up to you guys to pick who
[2:56:24] would be the best person to represent District 6 in the city as a whole.
[2:56:29] Now, I understand you think the matrix systems flawed, I think the voting just nominate somebody
[2:56:37] and vote on them.
[2:56:37] I think that's flawed.
[2:56:39] I believe the matrix is probably the fairest way to do it.
[2:56:42] Use it, just like Ms. Maruzzo said.
[2:56:45] On a four scale, one to five, if you got five candidates, lowest score wins.
[2:56:51] Now, I look forward to representing and serving the residents of district six.
[2:56:57] Thank you, Brandy White, please.
[2:57:03] Brandy White, I actually didn't plan on speaking on this until we talked about the matrix system.
[2:57:07] And I find it very concerning that two people who admit that they were here due to the matrix system,
[2:57:14] knew that it was flawed at the time, knew that it could be manipulated at the time.
[2:57:18] If they had no problem with it then.
[2:57:21] Thank you.
[2:57:22] Mayor, if that ends public comments.
[2:57:25] Thank you.
[2:57:27] Did
[2:57:32] Mr. Rankham?
[2:57:45] I've got a better patient than he was.
[2:57:46] I was crying.
[2:57:49] Okay.
[2:57:51] You know, any system that y'all make can be gained
[2:57:54] because y'all are politicians.
[2:57:57] But that's the best y'all do it.
[2:57:58] Game and start.
[2:57:59] No matter what it is, we just saw it with the military.
[2:58:03] We just saw that.
[2:58:04] That was all game and ship.
[2:58:06] Nothing more. Nothing less.
[2:58:07] If you don't believe it, then you shouldn't be in that seat.
[2:58:13] Here's the thing you really got to think about though.
[2:58:16] If you think it's gaming, then call it out.
[2:58:21] If you really think it's being gained, call it out.
[2:58:26] I went through this process.
[2:58:28] I literally watched this process.
[2:58:33] Did I know who was voting for who prior?
[2:58:36] But I had a good guess.
[2:58:38] And you know what?
[2:58:40] The man that set up there, that I could have been set up there, I signed to you, every meeting he was here, you know why?
[2:58:49] Because it was a craft shot, every shot, it was just a craft shot.
[2:58:54] At best.
[2:58:57] And he knew it.
[2:58:58] He knew that there was personalities up there that just wouldn't let things go.
[2:59:03] I commend Nick for lasting as long as he did.
[2:59:06] He stated it three or four times that y'all won't let him be professional for a commissioner to say that during a meeting
[2:59:16] should mean something to y'all but it doesn't none of y'all and say we got people calling people stupid up there
[2:59:26] That's not professional at all
[2:59:30] It's okay for me to stand here in yellow y'all to call y'all names and or otherwise as a commissioner
[2:59:39] That's my job. That's not your job. I can call you a lazy commissioner. Whether you like it or not, I can.
[2:59:49] It's just the way it is. But do I make it personal against you? No, because I know better.
[2:59:57] But y'all do, y'all make it personal.
[3:00:00] She can attest to it. She was called a hooker by another commissioner at one point in time, and a drunk by that same commissioner.
[3:00:13] That's crazy. That's unprofessionalism.
[3:00:18] So, if you want to gain the system, as you just pointed out, you go ahead, but remember, this isn't for you.
[3:00:26] This is to represent them in district six and to rest of us because what are y'all like it or not?
[3:00:33] Each one of y'all actually represent all of us.
[3:00:37] Because you vote when you vote you vote for all of us because what you do affects all of us.
[3:00:45] So I think my lucky stars every day that I wasn't put up there.
[3:00:51] Because the only man that can tell me I can't say something is him.
[3:00:55] Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. Only he can.
[3:01:01] And I'll get out of line that often. What if what I say? I don't need to.
[3:01:07] There's no reason for me to do. You're a mayor. You're a vice mayor. You're a commissioners. You're a commissioners. Act like it. But once.
[3:01:16] It's easy to gain any system, it always has always will be.
[3:01:21] You can go down to 7-11 and even gain the lottery nowadays.
[3:01:25] It's all over the internet.
[3:01:27] You can gain that by throwing an AI system and having check all the numbers.
[3:01:31] It's fairly easy.
[3:01:31] All the common numbers always come up.
[3:01:34] Whether you win the big one is not still the question, but you can still gain it.
[3:01:38] At the end of the day, the only thing I should be important to you is, is this person
[3:01:43] going to represent the people, not you, not your politics, the people.
[3:01:49] Thank you, Mayor, that in public comments.
[3:01:54] Vice Mayor Harry, you're up.
[3:01:56] Thank you, Mayor.
[3:01:58] I feel we need to clarify that it wasn't until the last few weeks that it was apparent that this process is
[3:02:14] manipulable and so it's, I think more transparent for us to have a conversation,
[3:02:25] have somebody
[3:02:25] make a motion, have discussion on that person and then move forward with a vote rather
[3:02:31] than hide behind a matrix that
[3:02:37] can cover a whole lot.
[3:02:42] Right, does anybody want to make a motion and a second commissioner reveal the last question?
[3:02:47] I make a motion to keep the form that we are currently using to select the next District 6 Commissioner.
[3:02:57] Sir, a second.
[3:03:02] Can you click on your good Commissioner number?
[3:03:05] Second.
[3:03:07] All right. We have a motion on the floor in a second. Can we please vote?
[3:03:28] Motion passes 42.
[3:03:31] So that is the system we're going to use.
[3:03:34] All right, we're going to go to the consent agenda item. Is there any public comment and consent agenda?
[3:03:39] Mayor, if you don't mind.
[3:03:41] Mayor, just want to correct as the attorney and I are talking about it.
[3:03:44] Recommendation by the commission, we put out the application in the next day or two so that you know what you're looking at.
[3:03:51] The process, not just.
[3:03:53] Okay, so we'll put something else.
[3:03:54] We have until the 30th is done, I correct. We have a limit on a date.
[3:04:00] 30 days from the moment of resignation.
[3:04:02] for the charter.
[3:04:04] Yes.
[3:04:06] I just go ahead city attorney.
[3:04:08] Have a clarification.
[3:04:09] Go ahead.
[3:04:10] I'd like to make.
[3:04:12] Is that.
[3:04:14] Even through this process.
[3:04:16] That doesn't.
[3:04:17] Automatically.
[3:04:18] Okay.
[3:04:19] That's the clarification.
[3:04:20] I want to.
[3:04:20] I want to have is that it doesn't automatically assume that that person will be.
[3:04:23] Started upon.
[3:04:24] We still have to vote at the end of the process.
[3:04:27] But correct me from on that is a charter requirement.
[3:04:29] So do the matrix and then we vote for that person.
[3:04:33] So, not the matrix part, but the voting part is a chart voting is a requirement of the sunshine,
[3:04:41] that prohibits secret ballots.
[3:04:44] And for clarification, 30 days from August 27th, which was the date of the email that was sent,
[3:04:53] is Saturday, September 26th, 2026 or 25th.
[3:04:59] I mean, I'm sure we can get to this a little bit later, but I'm sure the commission will be okay with doing the meeting.
[3:05:07] We have the next meeting, the 20.
[3:05:11] Yeah, so you'll have one schedule for the on the 22nd for your budget.
[3:05:18] And then after the 26th since that does fall on a weekend, you could do that on the 29th the Monday if the 22nd doesn't provide enough time.
[3:05:30] to get enough applications in.
[3:05:33] Okay, I guess you and the city manager will get with us on that.
[3:05:38] City,
[3:05:41] Robin, sure.
[3:05:43] Good city quick.
[3:05:44] So right now there's no meeting schedules for the 29th.
[3:05:46] It's the 5th Monday.
[3:05:50] We do have this special meeting on the 22nd.
[3:05:53] We could do before after that.
[3:06:01] And then we'd need a deadline for the ad.
[3:06:03] Like how long do you want us to advertise?
[3:06:04] If we get it out the next couple of days,
[3:06:05] if you want the deadline to be like Friday the 19th?
[3:06:14] We can start to figure it out.
[3:06:16] That should put in the 20 second to give time.
[3:06:18] People enough time to apply, give them a couple of weeks.
[3:06:21] We can have.
[3:06:22] I think we've done two weeks in the past.
[3:06:25] Roughly.
[3:06:26] Let me commission you have to decide that night.
[3:06:27] We're going to be able to be able to be patients.
[3:06:31] OK.
[3:06:32] Public comment and consent agenda.
[3:06:42] Oh, I got you.
[3:06:43] Matthew Bergen's, please.
[3:06:48] This is where just when you come up.
[3:06:49] Just make sure you click on the mic so I can open the microphone.
[3:06:59] UPS?
[3:07:08] So I was looking over the UPS in the agenda items, and I see it's for 29,000, just below 30,000, and it's for similar county.
[3:07:19] I see that we're going off with theirs, and so we're not using the RFP.
[3:07:24] I see that we also have a company that we used to look up other things, so I'm just inquiring to see if we can look for other quotes that make sure they're out there.
[3:07:33] I know Seminole County looked for other quotes, so maybe we can use that and so we can
[3:07:39] see without there versus just going off with Seminole County has, I know they have different
[3:07:43] infrastructure than what we have. So that's kind of the what we're looking at. So if you see
[3:07:49] they're using Seminole County's RFP, I know we have companies that the state uses. I've used it in
[3:07:57] I've used it in Advent Health, I use it with the state of Florida, and they can get contracts.
[3:08:06] So that's what I'm inquiring about.
[3:08:08] I know it's 29,999, I think $79 is what we're quoted for for the proposal.
[3:08:16] And so, like I said, I'm just seeing if the IT department, I was talking to them during the break,
[3:08:22] and we had a conversation about it.
[3:08:23] It looks like a really nice, a backup system for the IT, but
[3:08:30] Is what you a similar county using for is that good for Delta and is it going meet all of our needs because I see ours is 15 years old, but there are a peos for similar county
[3:08:42] So that's like said just getting something for
[3:08:45] Make sure the quote we have in is a sufficient for what we're using that's all I'm asking
[3:08:52] I see it's $10,000 less than what we call it for as well, so I know we're talking about budget items earlier.
[3:08:58] That's $10,000 saved.
[3:09:03] Thank you.
[3:09:04] Allison Root, please.
[3:09:18] Hello, Allison Root, Delta owner resident.
[3:09:21] I had a question regarding the waste per contract.
[3:09:24] So the way it states is all residents are required to use waste per for dumpsters as well.
[3:09:29] So I get, they do, no, don't give me wrong, I love waste pro, they do great on pickups and
[3:09:35] things, the debris, they got mine last year, everything works well.
[3:09:40] My problem comes in that we are now as citizens contracted with waste pro for $588 for
[3:09:47] a 20-year-old roll-off.
[3:09:49] So if I had the image to my home and I need to re-roof, according to your permitting department
[3:09:54] when I pull my permit, I have to call waste pro and use whatever they say use.
[3:09:59] And if it's according to that exhibit e, then it's $588 for a 20 yard dumpster. So if I'm
[3:10:05] cleaning out my house from flooding or regrouping or anything like that, have to use waves pro.
[3:10:11] So my question is, are those contracted rates the same for residents? Because I'm not
[3:10:16] signing that contract, or is it just for you guys? And they give me just this competitive
[3:10:22] break because I can get dumpsters for anywhere from $250 to $400 depending on who I use and
[3:10:27] wear a mat. So that's my only question. Thank you. Thank you. Brandy White, please.
[3:10:39] Brandy White, don't tell me I also want to talk about the waste pro contract. I noticed here
[3:10:44] that it says that waste pro has requested the city consider an additional increase.
[3:10:51] So it's only taking your consideration. They're not saying it has to occur.
[3:10:55] I also would like to discuss the numbers that are presented like the 13 percent increase over the previous year.
[3:11:04] I noticed that it talks about the CPI adjustments as well as the fuel cost.
[3:11:11] All of that was already built into that seven year contract previous that was being requested to be extended.
[3:11:18] If you go back and watch the meeting from back then all of that was addressed in that contract.
[3:11:23] I personally would like to see Deltone's P&L on Wayspro.
[3:11:29] I think there's a lot more profit, and that this increases it necessary.
[3:11:36] I also did a little bit of research on Wayspro because I was a little concerned that they are so involved in our local elections.
[3:11:45] They like to do campaign donations to certain candidates who are going to vote on their contract.
[3:11:50] It's a lot of us call that a bought vote.
[3:11:54] I'm a little concerned that looking at the history of campaign donations, it's very specific.
[3:12:00] And anybody can go on there and look at those.
[3:12:03] It's not just, say, hey, we do it across the board.
[3:12:06] These are not personal people donating.
[3:12:09] It's literally an entity that is donating to the campaigns of local elections that they
[3:12:15] have contracts in.
[3:12:17] That's concerning.
[3:12:20] I think it's very unethical for somebody to come before you who has put money into your campaign and ask you to vote for them.
[3:12:29] I don't know why you wouldn't have a problem with that.
[3:12:34] The numbers don't add up.
[3:12:35] There is not a loss in Deltona.
[3:12:37] There's already a substantial profit being brought in on Deltona.
[3:12:41] And to increase it 13.23% over the previous year for the one-year contract.
[3:12:49] I mean, do we have to go back and talk about how everybody said, oh, it's only a 6% increase,
[3:12:56] or it's a small decrease when we talked about marriage?
[3:13:01] Well, here's another one you're doing.
[3:13:03] You're going to improve an additional increase that's going to hit.
[3:13:08] When we're talking about taking waste out of the budget, this is one of them.
[3:13:11] It's saying that they just want you to consider it.
[3:13:13] So I want you to consider saying no.
[3:13:17] Thank you. May I that close by the comments?
[3:13:20] All right. We're going to go to a vote on somebody who wants to pull one of the items.
[3:13:24] So I'm looking for a motion and.
[3:13:28] Go ahead. Commissioner Colwell.
[3:13:30] I'd like to pull out a mark.
[3:13:32] Okay.
[3:13:35] Can we.
[3:13:36] Vice Mayor Harriet your next.
[3:13:43] Vice Mayor.
[3:13:43] I hear you're sorry, Mayor.
[3:13:46] Okay.
[3:13:46] I'd like to make a motion with one change to item D is the UPS item.
[3:13:54] I would like to, I like that item.
[3:13:58] I would like to approve the dollar amount and not to exceed.
[3:14:01] But I'd like to give flexibility to staff to look into what the resident brought to.
[3:14:07] So let's just pull that item and then you can make a motion for the rest.
[3:14:10] So that's item D isn't David and ours and Romeo are being pulled.
[3:14:16] So please proceed with the motion.
[3:14:19] I'd like to make a motion to approve consent agenda items A through C.
[3:14:27] S with the exception of D and R.
[3:14:30] Or you can do that.
[3:14:32] And now I'll entertain you in a second.
[3:14:36] Commissioner Santiago.
[3:14:39] All right.
[3:14:39] Can we please vote?
[3:14:49] We should pass this five to one.
[3:14:51] This time we're going to return to item D by smearing it up because that's when you pulled.
[3:14:55] I'd like to make a motion to approve.
[3:15:00] Item 8D, excuse me, with an amount not to exceed 229,977233, but also provide flexibility to staff to double check and make sure that they can't get a better deal.
[3:15:20] Okay, there's a motion by Vice Mayor Harry, it is in the second.
[3:15:28] Commissioner Sanciago.
[3:15:29] Thank you.
[3:15:30] There's a motion in the second. Please vote.
[3:15:33] City Attorney.
[3:15:36] Yes, Mr. Mayor, just if the.
[3:15:38] I'd like to propose an amended resolution title for this to reflect the intent.
[3:15:43] This would be a resolution of the city of Delta on the Florida authorizing the city manager or
[3:15:47] to approve the purchase of an uninterruptible power supply UPS and related equipment at City Hall
[3:15:54] from on computer services LLC or another vendor to be determined pursuant to a piggyback
[3:16:02] of Seminal County RFP 603794-20-BJC
[3:16:09] or any other similar solicitation
[3:16:20] in an amount not to exceed 29,972 dollars and 33 cents.
[3:16:27] Providing for implementation and an effective date.
[3:16:54] Motion passes six to zero.
[3:16:55] at this time Commissioner Colwell, if you can turn on your mic, we're going to go to
[3:17:00] ours and Romeo. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Commissioner Colwell, you're on.
[3:17:04] I have a question for legal or city managers, start out with, I know our contracts get
[3:17:10] going to expire in a few weeks. If this was tabled or not passed today, would we have
[3:17:16] opportunity to time before that to put it on a meeting?
[3:17:24] So,
[3:17:29] because the solid waste fees are assessed through a special assessment, the last date
[3:17:37] that those assessments can be enacted is the September 15th meeting, so you would need
[3:17:45] to have an agreement on price so that that could be properly charged through the assessments
[3:17:52] by September 15th. If there are other negotiable items that you would like for staff to address,
[3:18:02] you can approve the price and provide direction to staff to continue negotiation on those
[3:18:14] other items and come back. But the September 15th is kind of your deadline as well as the price.
[3:18:22] I have concerns mostly about, you know, well, the increase obviously in what we're losing for that increase as far as administration fees.
[3:18:33] I know a lot of that was taken out and a lot of the responsibility of the waste pro as far as marking containers and their equipment that they use.
[3:18:44] the extension of the life of the vehicles extended in the contract. So I have great concerns about that.
[3:18:54] So I would like to make a motion to table this until the September 15th meeting.
[3:19:01] Motion by Commissioner, call while to table to September 15th meeting.
[3:19:06] Second, second by Commissioner Villabascos. Please vote.
[3:19:12] I want to connect to that motion.
[3:19:16] I'll leave direct staff to work with Mr. Redmond.
[3:19:22] Key, please.
[3:19:24] Good try your second.
[3:19:27] Commission, we'll be in the next place.
[3:19:31] Yeah, okay, go ahead, commissioner.
[3:19:33] I would like to have staff work with Mr. Redmond and negotiate in these terms.
[3:19:42] And I don't know if we could be able to have Mr. Redmond come up and speak.
[3:19:50] Maybe Mayor if we could have staff speak also.
[3:19:53] City Attorney?
[3:19:55] Yeah, so you may certainly invite Mr. Redmond up to speak if you'd like.
[3:20:00] After we vote?
[3:20:01] I, yes.
[3:20:03] And I guess as far as the tabling and the direction,
[3:20:09] Do you want to clarify, you are directing the city manager to also include Mr. Redmond and
[3:20:19] contract with Mr. Redmond for those services?
[3:20:23] Would that increase your fees?
[3:20:26] That would increase our fees.
[3:20:29] I mean, it would, yeah, it would go ahead.
[3:20:31] Energy would need to have a budget established that he could pull that front.
[3:20:36] But can you please work on the mic?
[3:20:42] It's on.
[3:20:42] So again, those fees would increase some because obviously we
[3:20:46] have to pay Mr. Redbeam.
[3:20:47] Again, we had a contractor originally with him.
[3:20:50] So yes, those fees would have to be added in in some form
[3:20:53] away and paid.
[3:20:54] The other thing is the conversations that we've had with waste
[3:20:58] problems, some of the items that we took out of that was the
[3:21:01] knowledge meant that as we take those items out of the budget,
[3:21:06] When those items are being issued as a citation, I'll call it that for better terminology right now.
[3:21:13] Those items are so added back in the next year in the contract.
[3:21:16] So you may not be paying for that now, so we'll have a citation of 3500.
[3:21:20] We reduce the invoice coming in.
[3:21:23] But next year, all those different citations are taken into account.
[3:21:27] It's the cost of doing business and looking at that contract.
[3:21:29] So, although those may have seemed credible in the sense of being charged initially, we don't
[3:21:36] see that with working and looking at the contract that just to keep adding those back
[3:21:40] in, you're over years as an advantage.
[3:21:43] And then the other thing I would say is negotiations and conversation, our expected number, if
[3:21:49] you want to look at the 13% or whatever it might be, we were still lower than our initial
[3:21:55] conversations with Mr. Reben and reference to what he believed he could get for us.
[3:22:00] That was the only reason that we went out and worked with waste pro and our own, our own,
[3:22:05] so we're very comfortable to ask.
[3:22:07] That's not so much as far as the cost at the end, but the accountability for them to do what
[3:22:11] they're supposed to do under a contract. Without having any administrative fees in there,
[3:22:16] they're not.
[3:22:16] They're still accountable for the contract. They're still accountable. We still have a customer
[3:22:21] service person.
[3:22:22] There's a lot of other accountable on which way there's no cost to that effect, if they
[3:22:26] violate.
[3:22:27] There's always a cost to it.
[3:22:28] If they don't do what they're asking, that we ask them to do is from a contract perspective,
[3:22:32] there's always the opportunity for us to cancel the contract, to go out to bid for the
[3:22:37] contract, to not renew it at the end of seven years.
[3:22:39] You as a commission hold that option going forward into the next year.
[3:22:44] But to just say that we're okay with those fees continuing when we're one of, I don't know,
[3:22:48] two cities that we actually do that.
[3:22:50] maybe three at the most doesn't seem like it's beneficial for everyone to do that.
[3:22:55] So they're not looking at it from that perspective.
[3:22:58] I think Mayor and Commission may be a couple of the fees we're talking about.
[3:23:01] So if the trucks brought in from another city that we need backup and they don't tell us
[3:23:07] in advance it's the same waste road truck then there's a fee charge to the waste
[3:23:10] bro.
[3:23:11] I don't think we should have a fee charge to them by trying to make sure they do the job.
[3:23:15] There's a cleanliness on the truck if the truck looks too dirty then there's a fee
[3:23:19] charged, and ways for themselves, it's said to us, we know you're charging these fees, and
[3:23:24] I'm not going to eat the fees themselves.
[3:23:26] So, why are we charging fees for such minor, missed, missed streets, missed garbage?
[3:23:33] Yes.
[3:23:33] And they have to pay those fees.
[3:23:34] They're absolutely going to pay the fees.
[3:23:36] But it seems like there's a lot of nickel and dime that was going on.
[3:23:39] That seems insignificant in the overall scope of picking up garbage.
[3:23:43] And we are going to be paying those fees.
[3:23:45] That's like saying tariffs aren't charged to the consumers.
[3:23:47] Yes, we're going to pay those fees, they're not paying it themselves, so there are things
[3:23:51] that we did remove, but by no means that we removed the ability to actually charge them
[3:23:55] for missing garbage cans or missing streets, which I think is what most people are concerned
[3:23:59] about.
[3:24:01] Well, I mean, taking that out takes out the incentive for them to do the right job, I think.
[3:24:06] That's my opinion.
[3:24:07] I like to continue with my motion of table, I don't know if necessary to have Mr. Redmond
[3:24:12] involved in it at this point, but I'd like to see some
[3:24:14] administration fees talked about in a little more further
[3:24:18] depth.
[3:24:19] So that you're looking at asking us to look at the contract,
[3:24:22] the content of the contract and the fees not to
[3:24:25] exact point any of the other items.
[3:24:30] I'm going.
[3:24:34] Yeah, I guess just for a so-for clarification,
[3:24:36] you're looking to table this, to have staff look at adding
[3:24:41] back in some of the administrative fees that we're
[3:24:43] taking out with this amended and restated to
[3:24:46] more to the previous.
[3:24:48] Let's correct, and there's also some verbiages that is incorrect in this far.
[3:24:53] Location of the gallons, the size, the containers.
[3:24:59] Yeah, we can take a look at those items and double check as far as the terminology.
[3:25:07] I'll continue with my motion to table.
[3:25:09] Okay, we got a commission or a view of Asco as that's next.
[3:25:12] Let me turn on your mic, give me a minute.
[3:25:14] There you go.
[3:25:15] Thank you, Mayor. So yes, I will continue with my second motion and but I also have a
[3:25:22] or request
[3:25:22] can you add
[3:25:25] to the
[3:25:27] the staff request? I would like to see the difference between last contract and this contract?
[3:25:33] What was removed? What kind of services were removed? That will affect the residents?
[3:25:40] So I would like to see that as far as the
[3:25:43] services that we provide now and what will not be provided going forward with the change of this contract.
[3:25:56] It's my understanding that the services will remain the same that you will have the same level of service,
[3:26:02] but certainly your staff can provide that as part of the revised staff report.
[3:26:06] Okay, but there are changes to the contract, this year versus the contract last year, which will affect the residents, as far as a number of trucks out there, there need to be out there to service, stops and stuff like that.
[3:26:26] It's my understanding again that it's the same level of service, but I will certainly your staff.
[3:26:31] Yes, any changes?
[3:26:33] Can identify that for you?
[3:26:35] Yes, any changes now versus going forward that will affect the residents of the city of Daytona in
[3:26:41] every aspect of the garbage area. Thank you.
[3:26:46] Vice Mayor Hurrier.
[3:26:48] Thank you, Mayor.
[3:26:50] Have we looked at what the impact to the contract rate would be if we add in all of the enforcement mechanisms that were removed?
[3:27:04] Mr. Redmond, please give us a second order still waiting for staff.
[3:27:11] And then I would also like to know it's my understanding that I believe Orange City and
[3:27:18] possibly to Barry have also signed contracts with WastePro or planning on signing contracts
[3:27:24] with WastePro after going out to RFP and what those, how we compared to those contracts rates.
[3:27:32] So, yes, we did receive, I mean, we received the assess cost, if you would like, like I said,
[3:27:39] I referred to it, citations earlier, we'd have to break down each of those to look at the cost
[3:27:43] that would continue to be part of the assess cost because it would be true by citations versus
[3:27:48] some of the others that we looked at.
[3:27:50] So we'd have to do a breakdown for that for you, but in conversation with Wayspro, definitely
[3:27:55] some of those costs that are assessed, that we typically reduce the bill by and then provide
[3:28:02] to waste pro and their acknowledge it and recognize it and then when they look at it they're
[3:28:07] like okay so these are the dollars we would add to the next year contract so I'm sure that
[3:28:12] waste pro may have some of those numbers available to them at some point so we'll get with them just
[3:28:16] to give it a rough estimate. So we're hearing sorry to take off what I'm hearing is that if we add back
[3:28:21] and these enforcement mechanisms that we're taking out
[3:28:25] is that the contract rate will go up.
[3:28:27] That's correct.
[3:28:28] And instead of the 13% it will be higher.
[3:28:30] That would be correct.
[3:28:33] Did you have another question I don't recall?
[3:28:35] I'm sorry.
[3:28:36] It was.
[3:28:37] How do there's a negotiated contract rate
[3:28:40] compared to the municipalities that have gone out for an RFP?
[3:28:43] John, do you recall the exact percentages?
[3:28:46] I believe Orange City was, they've gone out as well as the barrier.
[3:28:52] I'm not sure if they're both finished, I believe it won't
[3:28:54] city, but wait for OK to answer that question for you
[3:28:56] and give you the numbers if they have this available for them.
[3:28:59] And they are here in the audience.
[3:29:01] Thank you.
[3:29:03] Good.
[3:29:04] Good.
[3:29:04] Good.
[3:29:06] Good.
[3:29:06] Good.
[3:29:10] Good.
[3:29:10] when you were making that presentation.
[3:29:13] You did mention that the city of Dalton and negotiated.
[3:29:21] Negotiated and it was less than what was proposed by Mr. Redmond.
[3:29:26] Is that correct?
[3:29:27] So we did work with them quite a bit
[3:29:29] on looking at the numbers that a type of service.
[3:29:33] Mr. Redmond's were just the initial numbers.
[3:29:36] So his initial thoughts were $4 more or so
[3:29:40] than what we originally came back with.
[3:29:42] Maybe it was just a little under four,
[3:29:44] but it was a few dollars more than what we came back with.
[3:29:47] That is correct.
[3:29:48] Thank you.
[3:29:49] Thank you.
[3:29:52] All right, there's a motion off for in a second
[3:29:55] to table this to the 15th.
[3:29:57] Can we please vote?
[3:30:09] Mr. Redden, please?
[3:30:24] The Redden Redden Consulting Group.
[3:30:27] I think there is a couple of statements being made that was incorrect.
[3:30:32] I initially talked with the Finance Director in the Assistant City Manager months ago,
[3:30:43] and we said that we thought maybe a rate around 1650 would be somewhere in the ballpark.
[3:30:49] They came in at 1594, so that's 46 cents, differs, but that was prior to any negotiation
[3:30:58] with waste for them.
[3:31:00] As far as the enicle and diamond on waste for them, that's incorrect, because the amount
[3:31:06] of fines or penalties charged against them last year was less than 7-10-1% of their revenue.
[3:31:14] So, if there's 1594, it wants to go up higher for the administrative charges, it could
[3:31:22] only go up to 10% to 10% to 1%.
[3:31:25] So, when we have the administrative charges that we're working for us very well for the
[3:31:33] last seven years, 60% of those have been removed from the contract without our knowledge.
[3:31:39] And we finally, when we downloaded the contract, we could go Friday and ran through that.
[3:31:46] That's where we had some issues with various enforcements of the contract.
[3:31:54] If you don't enforce the contract, then I always said it's like raising children or hurting
[3:32:00] cats on a witch's hardest.
[3:32:02] And we've had no turnover in our personnel for the last seven years.
[3:32:08] where there's waste where there's and a lot of turnover from their drivers that are supervisors so forth.
[3:32:14] That's just the nature of the business.
[3:32:16] There's several things that's gotten negotiated out of the contract that we don't agree with.
[3:32:23] It would affect service eventually.
[3:32:26] One of the things is the cap on the pricing sheets is 4% for one or two years.
[3:32:33] We have contracts that we oversee this 4% through the term of the contract, and that should be a cap in the section 6, I believe it is of the contract.
[3:32:46] So there's various portions of this contract, and I think that we would be very advantageous to work with the city.
[3:32:52] We did have a contract with the city, we do have a contract with the city, and we would
[3:32:59] agree to allow that portion of our contract to be included in assisting the city without
[3:33:07] additional fees.
[3:33:11] If you have any questions, I'll be more in happy to answer.
[3:33:13] I've got four pages of notes, various administrative charges, and then removed that are
[3:33:23] pretty profound for the enforcement of the contract.
[3:33:29] So if you have any questions, I'll be more happy to answer them for you.
[3:33:34] Thank you, Mr. Reverend.
[3:33:40] Excuse me, Mayor.
[3:33:41] Waste problem, would you like to speak?
[3:33:44] Tim Dullham, please.
[3:33:50] Tim Dullham, 2101, Waste State Road, 434 Longwood,
[3:33:54] with Waste Road, just wanted to address some of the comments
[3:33:56] that have been made.
[3:33:58] As far as a cap in the CPI, which Mr. Redmond just mentioned,
[3:34:02] there is a 5% cap in the CPI.
[3:34:04] It was agreed to with the city.
[3:34:06] It is the same cap that the city of Holly Hill
[3:34:08] and Mr. Redmond and myself agreed to.
[3:34:11] Here in the last couple of weeks with the contract
[3:34:13] that was extended.
[3:34:15] again for the city of Holly Hill so that had been addressed. As far as the administrative
[3:34:21] fees go it was part of a multi-fested or a large number of items that we went back and
[3:34:28] forth with for about six months with city staff. You know if somebody wants to go down
[3:34:35] those one by one I would be happy to sit with whomever but the reality of it is the items
[3:34:42] that were taken out, as we mentioned, so if, you know, there was a fine in there if I don't
[3:34:47] have a rake on the truck. Okay, that was taken out. There's a new fine that was trying to
[3:34:53] be entered into the agreement that if my guys dump the cart, if they don't turn it a certain
[3:34:58] direction, I'm now going to get fined $100 or $150 for the cart being turned a certain direction.
[3:35:05] That's something that you currently find us for, that's not in the contract and we've
[3:35:11] successfully tried to push back on that but that's simply something we do so when we're
[3:35:17] riding down the street we can see whether a can's been serviced or not. That has
[3:35:22] absolutely no impact on the resident whatsoever when it comes to is there
[3:35:26] can be in serviced or not. Some of these were duplications. There's a fine in there
[3:35:31] for missing paperwork deadlines and then there's another fine in there for missing a
[3:35:35] different paperwork deadline and then there's another fine in there for missing
[3:35:39] another administrative deadline. So there were multiple fines for administrative deadlines where
[3:35:44] there is a catch all fine if we missed administrative deadline we get fined. So the idea was not
[3:35:50] to not to pull a fast one and try to scrape bunch of stuff out. But there were, you know,
[3:35:57] got your fines in the contract that as a part of the conversation was staff. It was agreed that
[3:36:03] as the overall financial consideration that those would be taken out and they wouldn't affect
[3:36:08] the service. And as far as the service goes, just to answer that question, there was no effort
[3:36:14] in this to reduce the level of service to any of the residents in the city. We essentially
[3:36:19] took the contract that was in place. Cleaned it up a little bit, combined a dendom or the
[3:36:26] first amendment that had some commercial services in it. We combined those, scrubbed it, gave
[3:36:34] back with, again, language to clean things up, but from a service level, just to address
[3:36:40] the pressure of the best was, we did not reduce service whatsoever in this contract and
[3:36:46] had no intention of doing so. So if there any questions, I'll be happy to answer.
[3:36:55] Thank
[3:36:59] you. We're not here to deliberate. We're not this. This is not the place for that.
[3:37:04] So we have a motion on the floor in a second. Can we please vote and this is the table
[3:37:08] to the 15th.
[3:37:14] The motion to table fails. At this time, I wanted to
[3:37:17] obtain a separate motion.
[3:37:22] Vice Mayor Harriot. I'd like to make a motion to approve
[3:37:26] resolution 2025-123 awarding an agreement between the city of Dalton and waste
[3:37:31] product to provide solid waste collection services. There's a motion by Vice
[3:37:36] Mayor Harriot. Sir's second. Commissioner Santiago.
[3:37:40] Yes, I'm going to second it, however, I do want to state that this contract is negotiated
[3:37:51] less than what Mr. Redmond was proposing. If we move forward to September 15th, there's
[3:37:58] a possibility that it may go up. We don't want to make it go up, trying to save the city
[3:38:04] money. The level of service will still remain the same. So I'm going to second it.
[3:38:09] There's a second on the floor city major in the city attorney.
[3:38:14] Just a couple things. Just one of them is it several times it was said we cannot enforce the contract.
[3:38:19] We absolutely can enforce the contract and I believe that was said at this microphone here also.
[3:38:24] So it's not a question of if someone's garbage isn't picked up for some reason we threw that out.
[3:38:28] No, that's absolutely enforceable.
[3:38:30] The other thing I think that needs to be said is Mr. Redmond's done a good job with his company.
[3:38:33] all these years, but his existence really, his company is to go after every fee you could possibly get.
[3:38:42] You won't do too well the company wide if it's really just picking up an empty can here or there.
[3:38:46] That was Mr. A road that was missed.
[3:38:48] So the more fees that our city puts into the contract, the more that redmond services has to go after waste pro
[3:38:55] and we're looking at an existence that exists because it exists.
[3:39:00] So not that we're getting rid of Bill and his company here,
[3:39:03] But I feel it should be stated that when you bring in new staff like myself and the other staff,
[3:39:07] we do look at things upside down and backwards and we start to look and technically check
[3:39:11] and see that somebody's existence is to make sure that we charge more and more fees.
[3:39:17] If we don't charge those fees, then that existence doesn't really exist as much.
[3:39:21] But is there really a need for those fees?
[3:39:23] It does not hurt services.
[3:39:25] The citizens do not miss out on anything that we've removed from the contract.
[3:39:29] We just made that more of a professional contract,
[3:39:31] then not contract that look for everything we could possibly get from them.
[3:39:35] That's just an appropriate and business.
[3:39:38] Thank you.
[3:39:39] City Attorney.
[3:39:40] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[3:39:41] Now that there's a motion on the floor to approve the resolution,
[3:39:44] I just wanted to read it into the record.
[3:39:46] So this is resolution number 2025-123,
[3:39:49] a resolution of the City of Delton of Florida,
[3:39:51] authorizing the City Manager or Designee
[3:39:53] to execute the amended and receded agreement
[3:39:55] with Waste Pro of Florida Inc.
[3:39:57] For solid waste collection, disposal and transportation services in accordance with RFP number
[3:40:01] 1-8021 and the exclusive commercial solid waste franchise providing for implementation and
[3:40:07] an effective date.
[3:40:10] Can you please vote?
[3:40:18] Motion fails 3-3.
[3:40:21] Recommendation City Attorney?
[3:40:27] I would recommend that a, I believe, a motion to table is probably appropriate in this case
[3:40:35] since there's clearly not a will to approve the contract as presented and I don't believe
[3:40:48] that staff and waste pro will be able to successfully negotiate and revise this contract
[3:40:58] in a recess, you know, of less than several hours, so I would recommend that if the commission
[3:41:08] is willing to table this to a date certain of September 15th to allow staff and ways
[3:41:15] for the time to continue looking at this, that would be appropriate.
[3:41:22] City Clerk, we already have a scheduled meeting for sure on the 15th, right?
[3:41:28] Okay. Commissioner Vasquez, and then Commissioner Halington.
[3:41:34] I move to table the Waste Pro contract.
[3:41:40] Until the next meeting, which is the 15th of September.
[3:41:44] There's a motion by Commissioner of the Vasquez.
[3:41:48] Commissioner Halington, you're on the way.
[3:41:49] I'll second, but I would like to just ask a question.
[3:41:53] Go ahead and ask your question.
[3:41:54] Is there an opportunity for us to potentially extend the current
[3:41:58] contracts so that we can get a comfort level with the Commission
[3:42:02] and potentially get that 7C filled so that we don't have this
[3:42:06] constant 3, 3 voting?
[3:42:09] Is that possible?
[3:42:10] Can we possibly work with Waste Pro to do that?
[3:42:14] We would have to speak with waste pro.
[3:42:18] It may be possible if they're amenable to do a one year extension.
[3:42:23] Well, maybe even just three months, something so that we can move forward in the interim.
[3:42:32] Mayor Commission, if we are unable to successfully negotiate this by next Monday,
[3:42:39] we would have to place this on our monthly utility bill versus the tax bill.
[3:42:44] just based on the information received from WastePro the cost are going to go up and if we
[3:42:51] don't have something firm on an assessment rate by Monday evening at 11.59 pm we would
[3:42:57] not be able to have this on the tax bill for next year. Thank you all right let's go ahead
[3:43:08] about there's a motion to table it to the 15th and the second motion by Commissioner
[3:43:13] the Vasquez second by Commissioner Howington
[3:43:32] motion passes forward to.
[3:43:46] All right, if I can please get the City Attorney to read nine beas and boy.
[3:43:52] Yes, Mr. Mayer. This is ordinance number 34-25.
[3:43:57] An ordinance of the City of Delton of Florida.
[3:43:58] I'm sending section 1 10 3 19 PUD planned unit development of article 3 establishment
[3:44:04] of classifications and officials owning map of chapter 1 10 zoning to reduce
[3:44:08] the minimum parcel size required to establish plan unit developments and table 1
[3:44:12] permitted use table of Article 3 establishment of classifications and officials owning
[3:44:16] map of chapter 1, 10 zoning to update uses and plan unit developments providing for
[3:44:20] conflicts, codification, severability and ineffective date.
[3:44:24] This is essentially a cleanup of the PUD's chapter that was recently amended.
[3:44:31] One of the items that staff identified was this minimum parcel size because there is our
[3:44:38] certain areas of the city that require APUD in order to implement,
[3:44:44] including the OST and local plan area,
[3:44:46] which includes many undersized parcels.
[3:44:49] It is staff's recommendation that the one-acre parcel size
[3:44:53] be adopted rather than the five-acre parcel size,
[3:44:56] which basically returns you to your previous state of your code.
[3:45:00] And I'll let Mr. Smith. This time, I'll entertain a motion before we get into discussion.
[3:45:12] It's a promotion on the floor.
[3:45:21] Commissioners, Santiago.
[3:45:23] I'll make the motion to approve the proposed amendments to section 1, 1, 0, 3, 1, 9.
[3:45:29] Sir, second.
[3:45:37] Going once. Going twice. Vice Mayor, hear it. All second.
[3:45:44] All right. We have a motion in a second. Is there any public comment on this?
[3:45:49] Okay, go ahead Jordan, please click on the podium button.
[3:45:55] Good evening Mayor, commission.
[3:45:57] So Mr. Good explained this.
[3:45:59] I'm fairly well.
[3:46:00] There's two changes to this code amendment.
[3:46:03] The first is where we're just in the minimum put sizes to one acre.
[3:46:07] And then we're updating the table for the permitted uses table to clearly
[3:46:11] offline the permitted uses.
[3:46:13] The planning and zoning commission.
[3:46:16] The planning and zoning board repeat the item on August 20th.
[3:46:22] They're recommended the commission approve this item and staff recommends approval for ordinance number 34 2020 25 at first reading
[3:46:30] Just for clarification you said the PNZ board voted seven is zero to approve correct correct yes, sir
[3:46:40] Right, there's no discussion can we please go to a vote
[3:46:55] Motion passes for the two
[3:46:58] All right, we're gonna go to 10 a action item if the city attorney can please read the action item
[3:47:04] Yes, Mr. Mayor.
[3:47:05] This is resolution number 2025-92.
[3:47:08] A resolution of the City of Delton of Florida,
[3:47:10] approving the community development block grant,
[3:47:12] public service awards for program year 2025-26,
[3:47:17] authorizing the City Manager to execute subrecipient agreements
[3:47:20] with the top rank respondents to the notice of funding
[3:47:22] availability, providing for implementation and an effective date.
[3:47:27] I'll entertain a motion commissioner of the basketball
[3:47:29] as you are on the board first.
[3:47:30] Yes, I'll have a question, though.
[3:47:33] Okay, let's come back to you with your question.
[3:47:36] Commissioner Santiago, I'll leave your mic on by the way.
[3:47:39] Yep, I'd like to move to approve.
[3:47:41] Make a motion to approve resolution number 225-92.
[3:47:45] Okay, thank you for using the recommend.
[3:47:46] The motion is zero second.
[3:47:54] Vice Mayor, hear you it?
[3:47:56] I'll make a second.
[3:47:57] Okay, there's a motion by Commissioner Santiago and a second by
[3:48:00] Vice Mayor, hear you.
[3:48:01] Commissioner will be the best because you're on the board.
[3:48:03] Thank you, Mayor.
[3:48:04] So I'm looking at the breakdown that these funds are going to be going to and you know there is one organization on this list.
[3:48:17] The services, the city of Delta, or residents.
[3:48:21] And that's new hope, hands of hope.
[3:48:23] I can tell you from experience that I have sent people to this organization for rental assistance,
[3:48:34] the rental utility assistance, boarding a system, emergency and stuff like that.
[3:48:43] It's sad that sometimes they don't have the funds to help our residents, local, the autonomous residents.
[3:48:50] So, I would like to ask if we can award them exactly what they're asking for by reducing
[3:49:01] the other organizations, because I can tell you that even what they're asking for, it's
[3:49:07] not even going to be enough for them to serve as the community.
[3:49:12] Yes, ma'am.
[3:49:12] So these are based off of what the commissioner proved as a recommendation on the June 7th
[3:49:20] Board.
[3:49:20] And I believe you specifically asked me if it was a recommendation, and I said yes it
[3:49:25] was.
[3:49:26] And we would bring the actual amount back for commissioner approval.
[3:49:31] What you presented was the total amount to be represented to be sent to, what is it?
[3:49:38] HUD?
[3:49:38] The annual action planning threat.
[3:49:40] to not give us the breakdown of who was getting what?
[3:49:43] This spreadsheet was actually an attachment to the annual action plan,
[3:49:47] which goes with the annual action plan to hood.
[3:49:50] Correct.
[3:49:50] This was in there with the same breakdown.
[3:49:54] One I must have missed it,
[3:49:56] because normally when this comes to us,
[3:50:00] commissioners or prior commissioners
[3:50:02] would be recommendations of where to shift the money
[3:50:05] to where they thought would be best suited and best used.
[3:50:11] And we've always said that we take care of home
[3:50:16] before we take care of our neighbors, right?
[3:50:19] A new whole pan is one of those organizations here
[3:50:24] in the city of Deltona that are 24, seven.
[3:50:28] I can call these people at three o'clock in the morning
[3:50:32] and they will be out there to serve as whoever needs the service,
[3:50:36] whether it's to pick them up and take them to a hotel,
[3:50:39] or to bring clothing and stuff like that.
[3:50:43] So I'm making the recommendation or the request
[3:50:46] if they can increase their, to the full amount
[3:50:52] of what they're asking for, which is $25,000,
[3:50:55] which I can tell you it's not even enough.
[3:50:57] you know of the funds that they need to fulfill all the needs in the city of the
[3:51:04] autona resident just city of the autona residents. Okay that is the commission's
[3:51:10] prerogative depending on how this passes and what stipulations you'll put on it.
[3:51:16] We can readjust totals and the agreements that are getting ready to go out for
[3:51:22] for an October 1st effective date.
[3:51:26] Point of order, Commissioner.
[3:51:28] Something that we'd like to amend your motion.
[3:51:30] Yes.
[3:51:30] Well, I just agree with Commissioner Meritsov Vasquez.
[3:51:34] You are correct.
[3:51:35] There are two that are not in the city of Dalton,
[3:51:38] and I think we're looking at a $10,000 difference
[3:51:41] for new hope in additional 10.
[3:51:43] Can we remove $5,000 from the neighborhood center
[3:51:47] and $5,000 from early learning coalition
[3:51:49] and add it to new hope, which does about the same services,
[3:51:54] but it's here in town.
[3:51:55] So can we do, I like to make a motion to reduce that?
[3:52:00] Is that okay?
[3:52:00] So city attorney's trying to figure out what,
[3:52:03] so you're going to have to redo your motion.
[3:52:04] Can we get a work with Merrick that brings this back
[3:52:07] in to make sure that this is what she's looking for?
[3:52:11] That is it.
[3:52:12] All done.
[3:52:12] I promise I'm getting to you.
[3:52:14] Sure.
[3:52:14] That is exactly what I'm looking for.
[3:52:16] I'm looking that new hope gets awarded exactly
[3:52:19] what they're asking for?
[3:52:20] The additional $10,000 correct.
[3:52:22] Correct.
[3:52:22] Oh, OK.
[3:52:24] Well, it's less than $10.
[3:52:26] It's a change.
[3:52:27] We split the difference.
[3:52:28] Just to make up to you, what if you know that are non-involved
[3:52:30] down there in the early last school?
[3:52:32] City attorney can give us a viable motion.
[3:52:34] So Joyce doesn't look at me with a sharp my-by-is.
[3:52:40] She's looking at me with.
[3:52:42] Go ahead.
[3:52:44] Yes, Mr. Mayor.
[3:52:44] So, essentially, your motion would still be to approve resolution number of 2025-67 with the
[3:52:57] new hope, hands of hope, housing assistance requested recommended award being increased
[3:53:02] to $25,000 and the deficit being taken equally from the recommended award to the neighborhood
[3:53:10] center of West Felicia, and the early learning, learning coalition of Flagler and Felicia County's
[3:53:16] ink. Is that good?
[3:53:21] So resolution 92. Thank you, Madam Clerk.
[3:53:25] Vice Mayor, are you okay with that? We're doing the second on that.
[3:53:30] Yes. Okay. Before we move on, I know Colwell's on the, on the, on the,
[3:53:34] give me a minute. I had to remove people from her. Go ahead, Commissioner Colwell.
[3:53:40] So just so interested in the past, we've all voted on where the money is directed through
[3:53:46] this fund and by voting yes on this, it'll be of the city manager, the power to dictate
[3:53:52] where the funds are allocated.
[3:53:54] Now, the fund are allocated based off of this spreadsheet that was included with the annual
[3:53:58] action plan and that you're amending on tonight's decision.
[3:54:03] the city manager's only directed to execute the agreement with
[3:54:08] said public services.
[3:54:20] Is there any while you're looking that up? Is there any public comment?
[3:54:24] Just to make sure. Got it.
[3:54:28] There are any other questions, Commissioner Cole.
[3:54:36] She gave it to him the same thing.
[3:54:40] Can we please vote?
[3:54:50] Motion passes six to zero.
[3:54:53] This time city attorney, do you have any...
[3:54:59] No, Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much.
[3:55:03] City manager, any comments?
[3:55:05] I think so.
[3:55:05] Thank you.
[3:55:07] We're going to go to City Commission.
[3:55:08] Comments request and reports.
[3:55:10] We'll start with Commissioner Coel.
[3:55:13] Yes.
[3:55:14] I have a question about the maintenance of the lake handling the lake maintenance is in other cities.
[3:55:23] I would like to get some information on how they handle it.
[3:55:25] They handle it through the city.
[3:55:27] The counties are funding available through other municipalities and counties.
[3:55:32] And is there any funding available through our county?
[3:55:34] And
[3:55:44] the other question I have is, it's my understanding that our lean department is being outsourced.
[3:55:54] Our lean department is being outsourced.
[3:55:56] Part of it, yes. Part of it is.
[3:55:58] Is that something that needs to come before the commission?
[3:56:02] Not them aware of, it's not a cost to the city itself.
[3:56:05] It's not a cost to the city.
[3:56:07] How are we paying for it?
[3:56:09] The people pay to use the service.
[3:56:11] The people pay to use service?
[3:56:12] Yes.
[3:56:14] And when you say the people pay to use the service, that's the people they're being fined.
[3:56:19] If you're doing a lean, if you're looking for a lean, a real estate agent from your property,
[3:56:23] you would go through the process and you would actually pay an extra fee on top of what the city charges.
[3:56:30] And it becomes the counting issue of where we have, we can go back in time,
[3:56:34] forward in time making sure all the departments are covered no longer is in a manual job.
[3:56:38] It's actually technology for the future.
[3:56:40] All right. Thank you for clarifying that.
[3:56:46] Commissioner Howington, who am I, sorry, go ahead. You turned off. There you go.
[3:56:56] I don't have anything, thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. I want to
[3:56:59] Commissioner Villabasquez.
[3:57:02] May, yes, Mayor. Thank you. So first of all, I'd like to say in
[3:57:09] Senate big hug to Chief Schneider. I apologize I didn't go to your
[3:57:14] So, retirement, but you live right around the corner so it's not like you left us forever.
[3:57:22] And thank you for all the years that you gave the city of Delta, and you did a wonderful
[3:57:26] job.
[3:57:27] I want to invite everyone to come out on Saturday where they're permitting hopefully keep
[3:57:32] offering this cross.
[3:57:33] For the festival of nations, it's going to be awesome.
[3:57:36] We have 27, I think it is dances.
[3:57:40] It's going to be right here in the court yard, it's free open to the public, please come out and enjoy it.
[3:57:48] And I also want to invite all our businesses here in the city of Daltona to go,
[3:57:56] I don't know if it's in the city website.
[3:57:59] For the Daltona magazine, best of Daltona businesses sign up and put the posters in your businesses
[3:58:08] So people can vote for you.
[3:58:10] I know that I did my round in district three.
[3:58:13] I still have some that I have to drop off with the posters
[3:58:17] and the table tents.
[3:58:19] So please, for those of you who do not have a business
[3:58:21] and you have your favorite restaurants,
[3:58:22] your favorite doctors, your favorite hairstyles or whatever.
[3:58:27] You know, vote for them.
[3:58:28] They deserve it.
[3:58:29] This is the first one held here in the city of Deltona
[3:58:31] and they're gonna love it.
[3:58:33] This is the way for us to show how we appreciate them
[3:58:36] being in the city of Deltona.
[3:58:38] I can tell you that I have, I think it's 15 or 60 mom-in-pop restaurants in District 3.
[3:58:44] So, I'm pushing for them.
[3:58:46] Thank you everyone for being here and get on safe.
[3:58:53] Commissioner Santiago?
[3:58:56] Thank you, Mayor.
[3:58:57] Just a quick, again, I wanted to extend my deepest gratitude to the Fire Chief.
[3:59:02] I worked with him for a couple of years, and he officially retired.
[3:59:07] Thank you for your dedication, your leadership to our community.
[3:59:10] we're going to miss you chief sider. I also attended a crime stoppers annual event and they did
[3:59:17] honor one of our local law enforcement deputies that's here at District 4. I forgot the name.
[3:59:24] Deputy Graham. He was given an award, I don't remember the name of the award, but I know he's one of
[3:59:31] us any degree. The other thing is I had the privilege to present to sisters build network for girls and
[3:59:41] I just want to thank Dr. Primrose Cameron on encouraging and inspiring our youth in our community and that's all. That's all I have today. Thank you.
[3:59:51] I was going to skip Vice Mayor Pico, Vice Mayor.
[3:59:55] I just wanted to, huh?
[3:59:58] I don't know. I wanted to echo this.
[4:00:00] Thank you. Big thanks to Chief Snyder and as Commissioner Santiago so eloquently put during your 10-minute long speech at the ceremony, that I hope he gets the opportunity to travel like he still has so much deserves a big thank you to Deputy Graham in the Sheriff's Office for what they do as well.
[4:00:24] but it's a well-deserved recognition for him.
[4:00:27] And then on Commissioner Callwell's request
[4:00:31] for the Lake Aquatic Lead Control stuff,
[4:00:35] can we make sure that that's included in the workshop
[4:00:38] that is coming up on, I don't know, the date.
[4:00:45] But it's the one that we had discussed talking about
[4:00:48] they adding the aquatic lead control to.
[4:00:51] It's the, I think side walks are on there, already in free lighting. Sorry, free lighting is the primary.
[4:01:01] Thank you.
[4:01:04] Okay.
[4:01:05] I actually just have one request.
[4:01:08] Just one request.
[4:01:09] I can't believe that.
[4:01:10] That's the smallest.
[4:01:12] There is a, during the four league cities we met a company called Sox erosion solutions.
[4:01:17] I know that I afforded that information to, to city manager and staff just so we have it.
[4:01:24] All I'm asking from the commission is if we can allow them to do a presentation, something
[4:01:28] short, it can even be at a workshop, it doesn't have to be at a commission meeting.
[4:01:34] They have very, very, what's the word I'm looking for.
[4:01:39] Impressive stuff that they use to kind of help with the lake erotians that we have in the
[4:01:45] city.
[4:01:46] And since we're not getting any help from like the state, because we don't have a beach for
[4:01:51] Beach Reservation, I figured we can at least let them come in and do a report or if that's
[4:01:58] of the case if staff just wants to at least, City Manager, you want to reach out to them,
[4:02:03] whichever it doesn't matter, so if it's okay with the commission, I'd like to get a consensus
[4:02:07] for that.
[4:02:07] I'd like to see a presentation.
[4:02:10] Good.
[4:02:11] Thank you.
[4:02:11] Mayor, I just want to remind us that we used to do presentations doing workshops.
[4:02:23] I mean presentations that are just to give us information on something, not a presentation
[4:02:32] for a big decision that we have to make.
[4:02:35] So I can, I can adjust my request to specifically for a workshop.
[4:02:39] Yeah, I think it will be good.
[4:02:41] Yes.
[4:02:41] I'm good.
[4:02:42] Yes.
[4:02:43] Okay.
[4:02:45] All right.
[4:02:45] That's it.
[4:02:45] Everybody have a good night.
[4:02:47] Be blessed and stay safe.
[4:02:48] Minis adjourned.