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Okay, good evening everyone. I'll now call the open Council

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meeting of Monday, August 24th, 2026 to order and request

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everyone turn their cell phones off for the duration of

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this meeting. I'd like to call for Declarations at Petini

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Interest in the General Nature thereof undermissible conflict of interest

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to act with respect to the agenda for this meeting.

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Seeing none. I'd also like for a call for Declaration

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of Pecunia Interest and General Nature thereof on a municipal

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conflict of interest to act for means which a member

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had not attendance and which not been previously declared. See

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none. I'd like to begin by acknowledging with respect that

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we were in the 3D - 3 territory in the

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land on which were gathered as traditional territory, the Nishinabi,

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the MAT people. Welcome to this Council meeting of the

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Corporation of the City of Drydon. This forum is a

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place for Democracy, respectful discussion, and debate. We are committed

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to the values of integrity, honesty, responsibility and respect. We

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ask that everyone present, Council members, staff, and the public

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exercise self - discipline. Please focus your comments on the

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issues at hand. Respect the time limits and accords others

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the same courtesy you wish to receive. Let us work

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together to build a community where diverse views are heard

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and valued. So we have no delegations this evening or

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no presentations. No public notices, so we're now at the

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consent of general electasic clerk conduction of the agenda, please.

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Okay, I will review the items that are in the

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consent agenda this evening and ask if anyone would like

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to speak to our sever anything for a separate vote.

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Just the two items tonight under Adopt and Receive Minutes.

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We have the minutes of the August 10th Council meeting

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to be adopted. And under by - laws, there is

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60. Two amendments by - law 2026, two to account

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for the 2025 operating surplus as presented by the Treasurer

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at the August 10th Council meeting. Does anyone want to

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speak to her several either of those items. Nope, I

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will look for a remover in a seconder, please. Oh,

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thank. You. Move by Councillor Charteff, seconded by Councillor McKinnon,

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the Council hereby consider the following items of the consent

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agenda under date of August 24, 2026, as read and

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adopted, 9a and 12a. Okay, we call the question all

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in favor. Carried. Thank you. So we're now back to

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the regular agenda, which is out of consent, and each

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item on the regular agenda will be presented individually to

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Council. And I'd like to call on Mr. Bagshaw to

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present his report, please.

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Good evening, members of Council and members of the Public.

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The report before Council this evening provides an update on

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the Planning Work underway for the South Vanholt Autofront lands

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and introduces the draft South Manhorn Master Plan for Public

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Consultation. The starting point for this work is policy of

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4. 1, 0. 1, 0. 23 of the C's official

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plan. That policy requires large - scale mixed use waterfront

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development to proceed through either a secondary plan or master

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plan process undertaken by the city. The purpose is to

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determine the appropriate balance of residential and commercial uses, open

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space and amenity areas and protection of the lake. Staff

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App prepared the draft South Benhol Monster Plan as the

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planning instrument contemplated by that policy. It's important to emphasize

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that the master plan is not a development approval. It

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does not amend the official plan remove the existing holding

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provisions, approve a plan of subdivision or site plan or

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authorized construction. Those approvals and technical requirements remain to be

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addressed through later stages. Staff of proceeding with a master

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plan rather than a secondary plan because the official plan

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expressly permits either approach and the existing waterfront mix -

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view framework is considered capable of accommodating the contemplated development

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without an official plan amendment. The master plant also addresses

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the official plan direction concerning views and vistors at the

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terminus of ENHORN Avenue through specific public realm and design

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policies. The draft master plan establishes the city's broad expectations

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for the approximately 30 acre study area. The current reference

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concept identifies approximately 396 residential units across the broader area.

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Uh, this is a planning benchmark only. It is not

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an approved density. And the final number of units will

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depend on servicing capacity. Environmental constraints, open space requirements and

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future planning approvals. The draft also identifies a target housing

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mix that includes multi - unit housing single - de

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Commercial uses are also contemplated, including food service Moscow retail,

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marine related and seasonal uses. A central component of the

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plan is public access to the waterfront. The draft establishes

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an open space benchmark of approximately 35 percent of the

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study area, including the shoreline buffer, MASH interface, parkland, uh,

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and trail corridors. It also seeks to ensure that the

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wobbygoon lake shoreline remains publicly accessible and that exclusive private

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residential frontage is not created. The plan also seeks to

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contemplate the signature trail connection through the area and connect

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lower how mastery our system will be green lake waterfront.

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Environmental protection is another major component. Detailed environmental review will

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be required before the final development layout is established. This

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includes an environmental impact study, consideration of fish and wildlife

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habitat. Ecological function of lore halmarge, shoreline protection, stormwater management,

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flood and hazard conditions, archaeological assessment, and potential contaminated slight

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requirements. Several of these requirements arise directly from legislation or

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the official plan and are therefore identified as fixed requirements

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rather than discretionary preferences. The report also distinguishes the earlier

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Vanholm Landing RFP from the master plan process. The RFP

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was a procurement process, it tended to identify a development

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partner and obtain concepts for the approximately 10 acre city

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- owned first phase. It was not a planning approval

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and it does not replace the cities responsibility to undertake

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the master plan process. The mask plan is city -

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led. And the City establishes the planning framework leads the

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consultation, considers the feedback received and brings the final document

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back to Council for Pro Decision. Separate engagement undertaken by

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the development proponent may inform its proposal, but it does

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not replace the City's consolidation. It's also important to recognise

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that approximately 20 acres of the broadest study era remain

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in principle ownership and acquisition of those lands is not

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assured for that reason the draft master plan requires the

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city - owned precinct A, be capable of functioning independently

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if the provincial lens are not never acquired. Sourcing and

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land use planning are also being advanced concurrently. Infrastructure, construction

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does not approve of a particular development layout. Water pressure,

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Firefoil Capacity must still be verified. Wastewater capacity confirmed and

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transportation and stormwater requirements addressed before development approval. Uh, an

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agreement of patients and sale has been executed for the

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City - owned precinct A, but conditions under that agreement

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have not been waived. A development agreement accepted by Council

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is required before closing. And the draft master plan is

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to be adopted before or could currently with Councillor's consideration

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of that agreement. The land transaction therefore needs to be

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distinguished from development approval. The existing holding provision and subsequent

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statutory planning approvals remain in place. The next major step

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is Public and Indigenous engagement. Staff are recommending that the

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Draft Master Plan and Supporting Materials be released for 30

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- day city - led public consultation period. The city

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would issue its own notice and receive comments electronically and

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in writing at City Hall. The consultation will focus particularly

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on the balance of residential and commercial development, open space

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and amenities, public waterfront access and protection of what we

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can like following the consultation period, Stafford document the comments

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received. Consider NSRE revisions and return the final master plan

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to Council for consideration. Council may also direct additional consultation,

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including a city hosted public open house, if it considers

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that appropriate. Indigenous engagement will also be undertaking, it accordants

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with the official plan. There are several outstanding matters, including

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completion of the housing needs study for the consideration of

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the Sinister Trail Study, clarification of the reference concept by

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Precinct. And the Uncertain Status of the Provincial Lens, those

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aren't even matters reinforced the key point this evening that

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the document before Council establishes a planning framework. It does

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not approve a final development to sign. Accordingly Staffa recommending

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that Council will receive the port direct staff to release

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the draft master plan for 30 - day CD -

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LED public consultation period undertaking disous engagement. Document and considered

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the feedback received and return the final master plan to

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Council before or concurrently with the development agreement. And before

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I play pool conditions associated with the disposition of the

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city own lands are waved. Thank you. Oh, thank you

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Mr. Bagchaw. For your report, before we go to questions

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from Council, I just want to remind Council the recommendations

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that we receive this draft South Vanhoor Master Plan for

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Information. Council Direct Staff to release the draft South Van

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Horn Master Plan Supporting Material for 30 - day City

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- led Public Consultation Perry with comments accepted electronically and

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writing, Staff under Indigenous Engagement, accordance with digital plan and

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Staff document the feedback received, consider revisions as appropriate and

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return the final master plan of Council for consideration and

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adoption prior to a concurrently with Council's consideration the development

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agreement. And prior to the waiver of applicable conditions associated

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with opposed disposition of city - owned loans. Okay. A

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lot before us open up Council for questions. Council Ethan.

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I would like to defer this. Meeting to the next

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meeting on September the 14th. I would like a recorded

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vote on it because we have to vote if we're

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going to have a meeting or not. Um, there's, I

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found that there's a lot of things in here, a

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lot of issues. That are unknowing. And we need some

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time to absorb this more. That's my opinion. Your worship.

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Let's confirm with our clerk here. On. The Motion. We

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generally will continue with some. Discussion and see how the

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rest of the group feels. Okay, duly noted. Um, Councillor

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Kievney. Yes, thank you through the chair. Um, I just

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had a few questions. Sorry, let me just pull this

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back up. Okay, so, um, I'm curious. The 2010 plan

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that was mentioned. So in that, um, in the master

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plan, it states that, you know, we have to cancel

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or rescind the 2012 plan. Do we have any legal

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obligation to following the 2010 plan. Okay, that would be

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for flying department or Mr. Husband. Through your worship.

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You're talking about the waterfront plan from 2010 Councillor Couning?

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Yes. So the big kind of group. Project that plan

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that you're referring to. No, so just in general, the

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fact that we also have emotion tonight to rescind and

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within the master plan, it says, you know, we want

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to. Again, it sounds like from what I understand through

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reading through it, that we have to rescind this plan.

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Is there a, did we have previously did we have

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a legal obligation to follow through with that. 2010 waterfront

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development plan or like, I'm just curious what the point

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of rescinding it is, if it's not actually a hindrance

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to moving forward with this master plan. Thank you for

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clarifying. Uh, to move forward with a new master plan

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that we recommetion would be for Council to rescind that

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motion. Yeah, I can also answer that. I brought the

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motion for, um, knowing the 2010 plan has really not

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been, um. Really worked on for the last four terms.

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I think it's clean. If we want to move forward

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in different direction, it's clean for us to rescind that

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to make it, uh, we need to follow policies and

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procedures. So we need to follow our own act, even

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though it's done 16 years ago. It's still on the

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book. So we need to make a decision on that.

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the public consultation. So if you go to page

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16 of the document. Where is she? Here she is.

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consultation. So this, uh, 10. 6. 1 states that, or

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A, I suppose. So consultations should occur before conditions are

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waived. And before council adopts this master plan so that

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it can influence the outcome. This is all great and

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good. I'm curious about some sort of deadline or timeline

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that we are working with. Um, I feel like we,

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we received these documents on Thursday. I had only the

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weekend to review these, um, and I want to make

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sure, uh, because this document is very. Fulsome is the

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word I'm going to use. I don't know if I

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absorbed as much as I could have and I don't

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know if any of the other, um, councillors feel the

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same, but there is a lot in this document. So

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I'm curious if we have to have this completed or,

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you know, this draft available to the public sooner rather

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than later or if there is a way that we

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can maybe spend some more time with it. So it

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wouldn't be opposed to, um, maybe deferring the draft so

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that we can have, um, a deeper think on it

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and kind of dig into the more particular parts of

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it. Um, but I'm just curious if that, if there

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was some sort of rush on this. Staffonic tackle that

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one through your worship. I think Council has time or

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in parallel with any public consultation to absorb and ask

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questions as well. Uh, once the public consultation is complete.

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Uh, Staff will bring those results back to Council and

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Council can take that into consideration for any further refinements

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to the master plan, including their own thoughts on the

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master plan. Okay. Um, and then just a comment again

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about public consultation. I do think that, um, I think

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that we should lean heavily into the accessibility, um, bit

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of this. And from what I have heard around the

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community, a lot of folks in Driden are wanting to

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participate in some sort of in - person larger scale

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public consultation that is led by the city. So while

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I enjoy participating in these things from the comfort of

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my home, I think, um, I think it would be

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a better or best move for us to kind of

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check every box when it comes to public consultation. Create,

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you know, some sort of online something where people can

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write in or email in, but also have a space

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where people can move through their ideas and talk about

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these things. I think that one of. The things that

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people really liked about the 2010 plan was that it

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felt like. It felt like all of the parts of

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a, you know, college group project without, hopefully, the, um,

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the annoying bits of it. Um, so I'm curious if

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that is something that we can also look into and

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ensure that that's part of our public consultation. Okay. Go

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online first to Councillor Noel. He's had your hand up

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for a while. Thank you, Mayor.

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Sorry. I was, I was hoping my colleague would ask

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a pile of questions, uh, because she often rattles off

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a few of them that I had written down, but

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there are a couple. The first one is I'll go

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through the questions and anyone who's qualified to answer can

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answer. The first one would be that on page five

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of eight of that huge document that we had by

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seen in the paragraph that starts with land transaction that

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there's reference to the transaction for purchase and sale has

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been executed. Um, can somebody comment on if there's, if

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that property is actually been sold and the signed contract

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for it, um, the other concern that I had or

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questioned would be if somebody could explain the term, uh,

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holding provision to me. The next question would be, why

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are we only limiting 30 days for submissions on this.

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By email and writing. We have to remember that we

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have a diverse community here. Sometimes the electronic methods of

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participating in something, although very user - friendly, if you're

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familiar with that, it may cut out a certain demographic

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that we have. You know, seniors may not be necessarily

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as familiar with the process as many others. So I'm

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wondering if it has to be a 30, what, like

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what's the rush for 30 days for submission. Next question

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would be, would the First Nations consulting consultations also be

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within that timeframe of 30 days. Would that be done?

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Cause I'm not sure that that's even a reasonable expectation

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for that to happen within 30 days. I have to

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echo my colleagues'comments. Councillor Latham in that I feel extremely

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rushed with this. I too, uh, read all these documents

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twice just to see if I could delineate some of

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the questions that I had, but the nagging feeling I

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have at the back is I feel this is being

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put before us. At the 11th hour, so to speak,

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when there's a, there's potentially the completely new council is

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going to be coming in in a very short time.

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I don't understand the rush here. This is something that

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we need to really get correct and have the public,

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no matter which way we go on this, there. But

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this is a very important decision. I hope that both

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sides, if you want to call it that of this

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equation, we'll accept and realise that if not for residential

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development down there, we wouldn't have the opportunity to do

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anything because that's what levied sewer and water going down

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there because there's no way the city would have been

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able to afford that on their own. So there has

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to be a balance here and I hope everybody understands

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that. My concern, Mayor Harrison and colleagues is that we

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have to be transparent. I don't see the necessity to

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rush. At this point. It's not like everybody's going to

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pack up their back holes and go home if we

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don't make a decision in the next 30 or 60

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days. So if someone can answer those questions for me

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and for the purposes of the record, I support Councillor

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Latham's suggestion that we defer this so that all of

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us can have a little bit more time to read

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and ask questions. I know myself, I'm limited to who

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I could ask questions to on this. So it's been

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a challenge. Thank you. Okay. I'll go to Staff. Mr.

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Nesmith. You'd like to address those questions? Um, I can,

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you worship and through your worship. Uh, an agreement to

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purchase and sale was struck with the developer at Council's

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Direction. But as Mr. Begg Shaw reported tonight, uh, there

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are many conditions that have not been waived as of

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yet. Uh, one of those conditions is development of an

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acceptable development agreement that will come back and publicly be

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discussed with Council in an open meeting. From a standpoint

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of public consultation, staff field at 30 days is adequate.

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Um, we can, uh, we can start that process immediately

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at Council's Direction. Um, the outcome of this meeting, uh,

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and again, 30 days should be ample time for the

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public to provide their input on this matter. Okay. Thank

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you. I'll go to Councillor Taref. Yeah. Um, I was,

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uh, same on the concerns about, uh, public consultation, but

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I had to, um, I guess quiller for a question.

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Council Kevening had said that there was so much more

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input on the initial studies. I read them. The first

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one from CMHC had they invited a hundred people to

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participate. 33 took part and not all of them stayed

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for the whole Presentation. And in the, uh, second one

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for the 2010 final, Mr. Tariq, you're talking about the

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2010 2008 first. And then the 2010, they had, uh,

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open houses. That 60 people attended. And 13 people actually

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left written in commons. So I don't see, like obviously

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we want everybody's input. And in this day and age

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30 days on electronic, I think does, you know, meet

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it. And if at everything goes in, uh, it, the

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people are concerned, obviously the two sides of everything out

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there. And there's a lot out electronically. And that's where

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we seem to be getting everything from. If our history

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repeats itself and we delay and put out for, and

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the expense of having public, uh, in - person. Presentations

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and that. I don't know how much, but what I've

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seen in our last two, I don't know how much

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more we're going to see. Yeah. They had a charee

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at the first one and they said they couldn't even

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keep the people there for three days that they had,

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uh, on that 2008 one and the 2010 again was

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poorly attended. And I don't know. We didn't have the

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electronic capacity that we do now. I think we'll see

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a lot. I mean, we're still counsel at the end

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of 30 days if we don't see what we want

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or we don't think that participations have been great. We

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still have to accept it in 30 days except our

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extended then. So why keep delaying stuff. Okay. Thanks to

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all line back to Councillor Noel. Thank you Mayor

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Harrison. That prompts another question. Thank you for that, Councillor

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Tarta. So if the property has been sold now, let's

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suppose that we don't, um, agree with the development plan

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or with the developers. Vision. We no longer own that

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property. So can, can the developer then sell it now

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that it's been newly serviced with, uh, water and sewer

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and everything. It may seem a simple question, but it

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seems like it's a win - win for the development.

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And it's a win and it's a lose. Win -

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lose for us perhaps. So if you can speak to

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that, please. Mr. Nesbert, like to talk to us. Through

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your worship, the way that an agreement of purchase and

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sale of land works is that the initial agreement is

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signed off. Um, and in most cases, there are conditions

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attached to that contract. Um, in some cases, there isn't.

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In this case, they're absolutely is. There's, there's quite a

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few conditions, including, um, development agreement, uh, being created and

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agreed to by both parties, meaning the municipality and the

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developer. If a condition is not waived, uh, buy the

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closing date. Then the parties do have some options. They

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can extend the closing date and continue to work to

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waive conditions or the agreement becomes null and void. So

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the key point to know is that, uh, the land

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is not sold until, uh, this agreement is closed. And

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it's not closed until all the conditions are waived by

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both parties. Yeah, thank you for that explanation, actually. We've

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gone through this quite a bit through different sales. I

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can think of the property behind KK Penner. That was

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signed agreement, uh, with the developer there. And two years

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to develop. And we actually had to extend that because

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he didn't meet his conditions. And we had to make

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a decision. How are we going to look for another

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developer? Keep going. But we, we had some, I guess,

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faith in the developer now he's building two buildings there.

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So it is pretty typical. It's not done until all

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the conditions are. I've been waived and signed off by

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the city. You want to add to that, Mr. Nesmith?

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Uh, through your worship, I do want to clarify the

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situation that you speak to, uh, was a situation under

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the actual development agreement after the lands were sold. This

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is, this is a different situation. Uh, the agreement of

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purchase and sale for the lands, the conditions have not

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been waived. So the final sale has not, um, actually

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happened. So when the conditions or if the conditions are

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fully waived, then the sale will proceed. And that's when,

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uh, in order for the sale to proceed the development

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agreement, we'll have to be in place. And then from

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there, the development agreement, uh, becomes the contractual obligation that

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the developer has with the municipality. But right now the

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land is not technically sold. There's an agreement of purchase

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and sale against the land. But the conditions all of

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the conditions associated with that, with that agreement have not

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been waived, not be met, not being waived at this

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time. Okay. Thanks for that clarification. Councillor Lethal. Thank you,

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worship. Um, one of the other issues I found when

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I was reading through the document, as you look at

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the public space that's available, I can't quite figure out

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how much public space there is there. Uh, I get

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lots of comments from some of the public is that

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they basically feel like this is our last piece of

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property that could be enjoyed by all. So there's the

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conception that there's not that much community space for events

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or whatever wants to happen. And it's very unclear in

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this document. So. Um, that's one of the concerns. And

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that, that's coming from the constituents that have talked to

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me about it. They feel that that's the very last

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piece of space that is for. Whatever kind of mixed

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stuff they want to do. But, um. And, and quite,

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some of them are quite concerned about it because they

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feel like it is the last piece of property that

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they would have to use for space for enjoyment. Actually,

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there is a, there's a hard number in there. What

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was the number for open space. Matt, do you want

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to read this? Yeah, I'll go back up there. Yeah.

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Thanks. Um, yeah, the, the benchmark is 35 percent for

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open space, but just want to reiterate that the key

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component of, of the actual or any development plan would

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be, uh, protection of open space access to the waterfronts.

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Um, all the, um, all the things that the public,

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um, uh, it's important to them. Um, so those elements

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of any approval will be at the forefront of anything

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that comes forward. So, but we are aiming for a

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particular benchmark, which is 35 percent for open space. Okay.

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Thank you. I think Mr. Nespit want to add to

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that. Yeah. Through your worship. I would like to add

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to that because the, uh, the South Vann Horn Conceptual

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subdivision design that the city undertook several years ago, uh,

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it's very clear what there is for, uh, for open

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space and publicly accessible space, uh, in that design. And

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anything coming forward from any future developers. It would also

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be clear what's designated as open space and publicly accessible

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space. So, um, I think if you, this master plan

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is, is really just, um, pulling together the work that,

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uh, that Council has asked Staff to do, uh, probably

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since 2022, when we launched into the Comity Capacity study,

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uh, the South Van Horn area was, uh, was looked

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at, uh, through that study, uh, we looked at, um,

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we looked at the South Van Horn area, of course,

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through the, uh, through the official plan, uh, update that

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we did after that, uh, the South Van Horn area,

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you know, came into, I think, the conversation when Council

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our Staff to undertake the outdoor event venue conceptual design

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work, uh, that we did in 23. Uh, again, that

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area came into, into, uh, I think the work that,

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uh, was done with the trail feasibility study that we

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did 23, 24. So that area has been looked at

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extensively through different, uh, initiatives over the years. So the,

474
00:33:31,492 --> 00:33:34,292
uh, and of course then the, uh, the South Vannhorn

475
00:33:34,332 --> 00:33:38,612
Conceptual Subdivision design that I mentioned. So this master plan

476
00:33:39,033 --> 00:33:43,412
really simply, uh, brings all that under, you know, this

477
00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:50,269
term master plan. Uh, for, uh, for additional public consultation,

478
00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:53,709
because most of those initiatives that I mentioned included fairly

479
00:33:53,749 --> 00:34:00,249
extensive, uh, public consultation. Okay. Thank you. We'll go to

480
00:34:00,249 --> 00:34:05,290
Councillor Kieving. Thank you through the chair. Um, I don't

481
00:34:05,391 --> 00:34:09,370
think that anyone around the horseshoe are online is wanting

482
00:34:09,391 --> 00:34:12,970
to discredit all of the work that we know and

483
00:34:13,071 --> 00:34:19,584
has clearly gone into this master plan. I think. Some

484
00:34:19,605 --> 00:34:22,624
folks would feel that it is part of our due

485
00:34:22,664 --> 00:34:26,224
diligence to make sure that we, you know, understand what

486
00:34:26,325 --> 00:34:31,344
we're putting out to the public completely before it gets

487
00:34:31,765 --> 00:34:38,864
there officially. Um, so when looking at these conceptualizations, like

488
00:34:39,045 --> 00:34:44,744
I'm looking at the JR cousins like mockups kind of

489
00:34:44,744 --> 00:34:49,035
right now. And like some of them are very. Nice.

490
00:34:49,035 --> 00:34:56,555
Like they extend, um, our, our trail system. They create,

491
00:34:56,555 --> 00:35:01,275
you know, this lovely boardwalk along the water and extend

492
00:35:01,456 --> 00:35:06,795
our existing doc structure and include a kayak launch and

493
00:35:06,795 --> 00:35:10,875
a little dock for, you know, non motorized, uh, water

494
00:35:11,536 --> 00:35:17,047
sport. Things. Um, so I think that they're, you know,

495
00:35:17,408 --> 00:35:21,847
on, on the right track, I'm curious about these, um,

496
00:35:22,768 --> 00:35:26,187
these drawings and maybe Matt, you can answer this. Were

497
00:35:26,187 --> 00:35:33,067
these documents also provided to the public with like in

498
00:35:33,067 --> 00:35:35,627
addition to like the master plan or was this just

499
00:35:35,648 --> 00:35:37,387
kind of like, this is part of the agenda package.

500
00:35:37,387 --> 00:35:38,907
And if people knew where to find it, that's how

501
00:35:38,907 --> 00:35:43,513
they would find it. Uh, these were provided as part

502
00:35:43,513 --> 00:35:47,513
of the agenda to the master plan. So yes, this

503
00:35:47,534 --> 00:35:50,953
is the, this is, this is informed the master plan.

504
00:35:50,953 --> 00:35:53,353
But it is an important part of informing the master

505
00:35:53,353 --> 00:35:56,473
plan and the direction that we would like to explore

506
00:35:56,494 --> 00:36:00,713
and go in. So yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So for any

507
00:36:00,753 --> 00:36:03,333
members of the public who are watching or listening, um,

508
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:05,913
and you haven't seen these drawings yet. They are attached

509
00:36:05,934 --> 00:36:08,633
to our agenda package and go look at them to

510
00:36:08,673 --> 00:36:13,353
help inform your thoughts about this, um, the master plan

511
00:36:15,694 --> 00:36:20,114
its entirety, I guess. Yeah. Just add, I think that

512
00:36:20,855 --> 00:36:23,554
document from the consultant you're referring to the Van Horn

513
00:36:23,594 --> 00:36:27,394
Lanning Subvision pre - design report. Like part of the

514
00:36:27,575 --> 00:36:32,754
purpose of that was really, uh, to compete against 440

515
00:36:32,775 --> 00:36:35,794
municipalities for infrastructure funding for sue and water to get

516
00:36:35,794 --> 00:36:38,834
down to the end of Van Horn Landing. So without

517
00:36:38,855 --> 00:36:43,554
some documentation showing the ministry of infrastructure, uh, that we

518
00:36:43,655 --> 00:36:46,554
had a plan that could get move forward. Like we

519
00:36:46,554 --> 00:36:49,154
would not get any funding. So, so this was pretty

520
00:36:49,255 --> 00:36:53,954
key, I think, and just showing our due diligence and

521
00:36:53,954 --> 00:36:58,156
part of municipality to the government. And unfortunately, we were

522
00:36:58,177 --> 00:37:01,556
rewarded that funding. You can see the work ahead. We

523
00:37:01,556 --> 00:37:03,836
wouldn't be here tonight if that wasn't going ahead. So

524
00:37:03,876 --> 00:37:08,513
that was a key document and moving that forward. Any

525
00:37:08,694 --> 00:37:16,765
other further questions, comments, Councillor Taref. Through the chair. So

526
00:37:16,786 --> 00:37:20,205
basically as I understand it, this is the culmination of

527
00:37:20,626 --> 00:37:23,725
five different studies that have been undertaken presented to Council

528
00:37:23,765 --> 00:37:27,519
over the last four years. That are now being amassed

529
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:32,559
and put into a single master plan. So I understand

530
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:34,879
it's overwhelming because you're all of a sudden seeing five

531
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:37,519
at once, but we've seen them throughout the year and

532
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,639
accepted them or received voted to receive them as reports

533
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:45,502
from each department as this went along. And again, like

534
00:37:45,523 --> 00:37:47,742
I'm saying, it's not that I want to rush it,

535
00:37:47,742 --> 00:37:51,422
but nothing burns me more than watching government red tape

536
00:37:51,443 --> 00:37:54,222
and drags stuff around forever when you've already looked at

537
00:37:54,243 --> 00:37:57,502
it. And it's been there. And we've got another 30

538
00:37:57,542 --> 00:37:59,422
days to look at it before it comes back to

539
00:37:59,462 --> 00:38:03,146
us again to be accepted. So giving another 30 days

540
00:38:03,647 --> 00:38:06,266
another, I'm starting to think we're part of the federal

541
00:38:06,287 --> 00:38:08,746
or provincial government, which, you know, and we see what

542
00:38:09,087 --> 00:38:12,666
happens to any investment when they get involved. It's deferred

543
00:38:12,927 --> 00:38:16,906
and gone forever or drug out. And if I've just

544
00:38:16,906 --> 00:38:20,106
described this accurately as the culmination of all these reports

545
00:38:20,207 --> 00:38:23,306
we've looked at over the last four years, I think

546
00:38:23,407 --> 00:38:26,266
if we've been doing our job up till now, we

547
00:38:26,287 --> 00:38:29,946
shouldn't continue to ask staff to wait around and ask

548
00:38:29,967 --> 00:38:32,186
for more and ask for more. When we've already had

549
00:38:32,207 --> 00:38:37,306
the opportunity to ask questions about this, get our details

550
00:38:37,346 --> 00:38:40,974
straight. And we do have another 30 days. To do

551
00:38:40,974 --> 00:38:44,432
that. Before we have to accept it or send it

552
00:38:44,432 --> 00:38:47,057
back at that point. But I just want to be

553
00:38:47,097 --> 00:38:50,950
clear where we are here on this because. I guess

554
00:38:51,851 --> 00:38:54,710
I'm not that I'm impatient. I just hate stuff dragging

555
00:38:54,750 --> 00:39:00,041
out. Yeah. So the staff, the best ability to put

556
00:39:00,041 --> 00:39:03,321
together this master plan, like Mr. Nesba said and you

557
00:39:03,361 --> 00:39:05,721
said that based on all the information we've got to

558
00:39:05,721 --> 00:39:08,646
say over the last number of years. Really this, we're

559
00:39:08,646 --> 00:39:12,646
asking to now bring this to the public and ourselves.

560
00:39:12,646 --> 00:39:14,726
We have 30 days to review this and to bring

561
00:39:14,726 --> 00:39:20,886
back any comments, questions, concerns. For review of staff to

562
00:39:20,987 --> 00:39:25,926
put together and to then try to put a final

563
00:39:25,947 --> 00:39:28,646
plan together, Presentation, the Council so that we can then

564
00:39:28,686 --> 00:39:31,606
deliberate on whether or not we accept that final plan.

565
00:39:31,606 --> 00:39:35,526
I think that's really what they're asking. So do we

566
00:39:35,547 --> 00:39:38,326
really, we think it's time. We put the RFP out

567
00:39:38,507 --> 00:39:41,606
in, I think, January for looking for call for developers.

568
00:39:41,606 --> 00:39:44,006
So it's been a long time since the AFC come

569
00:39:44,006 --> 00:39:45,446
back to the public because we had to do that

570
00:39:45,467 --> 00:39:49,686
in a closed session. So I think we have, although

571
00:39:49,686 --> 00:39:51,446
the public may not be aware, but we've spent a

572
00:39:51,446 --> 00:39:53,766
lot of time. And then a lot of energy to

573
00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:59,354
try to move this forward up to this point. Councillor

574
00:39:59,375 --> 00:40:04,644
Kieving. Mr. Nesbitt, can you give us an idea of

575
00:40:05,145 --> 00:40:10,804
when the 30 days? So if this was received tonight,

576
00:40:10,804 --> 00:40:17,802
when does our 30 days begin. Through your worship staff

577
00:40:17,802 --> 00:40:20,882
would be ready to go with kicking off. I guess

578
00:40:20,882 --> 00:40:27,854
the electronic portion of the public consultation. Almost immediately. Okay.

579
00:40:29,849 --> 00:40:35,268
With Staff, consider like a half day in person consultation

580
00:40:35,369 --> 00:40:37,428
so people can come and talk to people in person.

581
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:42,129
To your worship staff will do what the majority of

582
00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:48,411
Council instructs them to do. Great. I think we're hearing

583
00:40:48,592 --> 00:40:54,266
that that is a desirable. Council Ethan. You should just

584
00:40:54,266 --> 00:40:59,386
one more question. So explain what the vote today would

585
00:40:59,426 --> 00:41:02,746
be for. Like it's, it's, it's the vote would not

586
00:41:02,746 --> 00:41:06,426
be making that this is going to be done. This

587
00:41:06,447 --> 00:41:08,346
is to make it just move on to the next

588
00:41:08,607 --> 00:41:12,523
stage. Yeah. So I can say it again, as I

589
00:41:12,523 --> 00:41:15,483
said earlier, like receiving the report. So we have an

590
00:41:15,483 --> 00:41:17,963
opportunity to look at it. And really, to release it

591
00:41:17,963 --> 00:41:20,923
to the public and start a 30 day public consultation.

592
00:41:20,923 --> 00:41:25,243
So everyone has a chance to read through it and

593
00:41:25,243 --> 00:41:28,503
put in comments electronically or writing or in person. And

594
00:41:28,503 --> 00:41:32,203
then, um, also do indigenous engagement. It's not the same

595
00:41:32,203 --> 00:41:34,843
as the consultation, but it's engagement. It's a bit different.

596
00:41:35,248 --> 00:41:39,387
So then they document that feedback receive considering revisions appropriate

597
00:41:39,888 --> 00:41:44,267
and bring them all the comments back and bring a

598
00:41:44,307 --> 00:41:47,787
potential final master plan to Council for our deliberation debate

599
00:41:49,088 --> 00:41:51,387
and then decide whether we move forward without or chain

600
00:41:51,408 --> 00:41:54,027
make changes. So this is just the beginning of a

601
00:41:54,067 --> 00:41:58,587
process. We're not approving this document or anything like it.

602
00:41:58,587 --> 00:42:02,427
We're really approving consultation on the document to get started

603
00:42:02,608 --> 00:42:12,003
on it. Any other further. Comments or questions.

604
00:42:14,586 --> 00:42:17,285
I guess one thing is our, is there a majority

605
00:42:17,386 --> 00:42:21,301
willing to move forward on this. Because we're looking for.

606
00:42:22,093 --> 00:42:26,473
I guess, the mover in second. So. Okay, moved by

607
00:42:27,414 --> 00:42:33,152
Councillor Price, seconded by Councillor Taref. No, thank you. I

608
00:42:33,152 --> 00:42:35,632
was just going to ask Councillor Lathan needs to like

609
00:42:35,632 --> 00:42:42,068
a recorded vote. Oh, yes. Okay. Thank you. Ready. Moved

610
00:42:42,068 --> 00:42:45,508
by Councillor Price, seconded by Councillor Tardif, the Council received

611
00:42:45,508 --> 00:42:48,468
this report regarding the draft South Van Horn Master Plan

612
00:42:48,508 --> 00:42:51,828
for Information. And that Council Direct staff to release the

613
00:42:52,089 --> 00:42:55,268
draft South Vanhorn Master Plan and supporting materials for a

614
00:42:55,308 --> 00:42:59,188
30 - day city - led public consultation period with

615
00:42:59,188 --> 00:43:03,568
comments accepted electronically and in writing at City Hall. And

616
00:43:03,568 --> 00:43:06,708
that Staff Undertake Indigenous engagement in accordance with the official

617
00:43:06,889 --> 00:43:11,188
plan and the staff document the feedback received. Consider revisions

618
00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:14,708
as appropriate and return the final master plan to Council

619
00:43:14,748 --> 00:43:19,748
for consideration and Adoption prior to, or concurrently with Council's

620
00:43:19,788 --> 00:43:23,588
consideration of the development agreement and prior to the waiver

621
00:43:23,588 --> 00:43:28,468
of applicable conditions associated with the proposed disposition of city

622
00:43:28,809 --> 00:43:37,528
- owned lands. Go around the table, Councillor Keening. I

623
00:43:37,568 --> 00:43:40,088
can't tell you if that's right or wrong. It's on

624
00:43:40,128 --> 00:43:46,270
you. Mostly paying attention. Don't worry, my mic is on.

625
00:43:46,371 --> 00:43:50,916
Um, yes, I will support moving forward right now. Hey,

626
00:43:50,956 --> 00:43:58,195
Councillor Latham. Yes. Councillor McKinnon. Four. Councillor Noel.

627
00:44:05,734 --> 00:44:13,371
Thank you. I'm sorry, I'm against. I don't think 30

628
00:44:13,411 --> 00:44:16,251
days is enough time to get it all done. That's

629
00:44:16,352 --> 00:44:20,819
my only sticking point is a 30 days. Councillor Price.

630
00:44:23,924 --> 00:44:32,764
Taref. May. Harrison. Yay. It voted of six to one

631
00:44:32,785 --> 00:44:38,265
in favor. The vote is carried. All right. Thank you.

632
00:44:38,265 --> 00:44:40,745
So I'd like to now call Ms. Warren to present

633
00:44:40,745 --> 00:44:45,097
her report, please. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Mayor and

634
00:44:45,097 --> 00:44:48,708
Council and everybody in attendance. Uh, the purpose of my

635
00:44:48,748 --> 00:44:51,908
staff report tonight is to request council's approval to create

636
00:44:52,249 --> 00:44:55,188
one permanent full - time non - union building and

637
00:44:55,289 --> 00:44:59,508
by - law services, supervisor position. So staff, uh, are

638
00:44:59,508 --> 00:45:03,508
recommending that Council approve one permanent full - time building

639
00:45:03,609 --> 00:45:07,588
in Bylaws Services, supervisor position within the building and planning

640
00:45:07,929 --> 00:45:12,733
department effective upon recruitment. Approved the attached job description and

641
00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:15,373
placement on the non - union paygrid at Group 7

642
00:45:15,394 --> 00:45:19,773
with a salary band of 95, 680 to 107 470,

643
00:45:19,773 --> 00:45:27,282
360. A prove 2026 operating budget amendment of 73, 0120,

644
00:45:27,282 --> 00:45:30,707
which would be funded from existing salary vacancies. And then

645
00:45:30,968 --> 00:45:33,827
Direct Staff to include the estimated annualized cost of approximately

646
00:45:34,248 --> 00:45:39,370
137, 992 in the draft 2027 operating budget. So some

647
00:45:39,370 --> 00:45:43,210
of the key requests is the, this request is intended

648
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:47,210
to address an operational and statutory service delivery gap in

649
00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:50,090
our building in Byloft Services. So currently the chief building

650
00:45:50,130 --> 00:45:53,770
official is a city only qualified staff member authorized to

651
00:45:53,791 --> 00:45:58,678
issue permits and complete mandatory building code inspections. Bylaw Services

652
00:45:58,779 --> 00:46:02,198
is also supported by one municipal law enforcement officer without

653
00:46:02,299 --> 00:46:05,375
a designated day - to - day supervisor. And then

654
00:46:05,556 --> 00:46:10,116
the proposed combined role would add qualified inspection capacity. Provide

655
00:46:10,297 --> 00:46:13,156
by loss services supervision and create a plan succession plan

656
00:46:13,177 --> 00:46:17,876
for both for the CBO function. So why we're asking

657
00:46:17,897 --> 00:46:23,236
for this first reason why we're asking is reduced statutory

658
00:46:23,257 --> 00:46:28,676
compliance risk. So provincial requirements established permit review timelines and

659
00:46:28,676 --> 00:46:33,396
require mandatory inspections within two business days of notice at

660
00:46:33,396 --> 00:46:37,156
present. An absence of the CBO for vacation illness training

661
00:46:37,177 --> 00:46:42,916
turnover leaves no qualified internal backup to review applications issue

662
00:46:42,956 --> 00:46:46,756
permits, complete mandatory inspections or issue orders, which would create

663
00:46:48,377 --> 00:46:52,116
an immediate, you know, risk to the organisation. A second

664
00:46:52,137 --> 00:46:55,316
reason we're being, we're asking for this position to be

665
00:46:55,316 --> 00:46:59,076
created is to respond to increased development activity. So building

666
00:46:59,257 --> 00:47:03,236
activity has increased while staffing has remained at the historical

667
00:47:03,657 --> 00:47:08,567
complement of one qualified inspector. Construction value increase from approximately

668
00:47:09,468 --> 00:47:13,767
12. 6 million in 2022 to 30. 5 million in

669
00:47:13,767 --> 00:47:20,282
2025, which is about 143 percent increase. Permits issued increased

670
00:47:20,282 --> 00:47:23,242
from 60 to 116 over the same period, which is

671
00:47:23,263 --> 00:47:29,402
a 93 percent increase 130 properties for the same period

672
00:47:29,442 --> 00:47:33,402
of 2022 to 2025 have been inspected for property standards

673
00:47:33,663 --> 00:47:37,642
concerns, which adds to Staff's time for inspection and enforcements,

674
00:47:37,642 --> 00:47:40,602
which drives Staff resources from building parking and animal control.

675
00:47:42,314 --> 00:47:46,213
The report also identifies practical pressures already being experienced, including

676
00:47:46,474 --> 00:47:50,293
deferred plan review, longer pre - consultation timelines, inspections being

677
00:47:50,554 --> 00:47:53,813
scheduled near the end of required timeframes and administrative duties

678
00:47:54,314 --> 00:47:58,213
reducing available field time. The third reason is to improve

679
00:47:58,634 --> 00:48:02,933
our bylaws services coordination. So this position would provide designated

680
00:48:02,973 --> 00:48:08,693
operation operational supervision for Bylaus Services, which would include complaint

681
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:13,893
and investigation file triage, consistent application of progressive enforcement, quality

682
00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:20,053
control for notes, evidence, photocrafts, and prosecution disclosure. Coordination with

683
00:48:20,234 --> 00:48:25,173
OPP Fire Services Public Works, Property Standards Committees, et cetera.

684
00:48:25,173 --> 00:48:28,773
And then support for escalated public interactions in proactive compliance

685
00:48:28,794 --> 00:48:33,477
education. The combined structure is intended to be efficient because

686
00:48:33,658 --> 00:48:37,957
building and Bylaw work have overlapping subject matter, enforcement tools,

687
00:48:38,138 --> 00:48:43,797
field activities, and Public Safety Objectives. Another reason is to

688
00:48:43,837 --> 00:48:47,717
establish a CBO Succession Capacity. So the City currently has

689
00:48:47,738 --> 00:48:52,839
no qualified internal successor for the CBO role. Building official

690
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:56,599
qualifications take time to obtain. And the rule also requires

691
00:48:56,940 --> 00:49:01,319
operational knowledge of local building stock approvals and final history.

692
00:49:01,319 --> 00:49:04,919
Recruiting a qualified CBO externally in Northwestern Ontario was expected

693
00:49:04,959 --> 00:49:08,119
to take 9 to 18 months while interim contracted services

694
00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:12,116
could come at a substantial and uncertain premium. Creating this

695
00:49:12,156 --> 00:49:15,876
position now permits knowledge transfer while the current CBO remains

696
00:49:15,897 --> 00:49:19,316
available and allows the city to build qualifications over time.

697
00:49:20,443 --> 00:49:24,182
So the Financial Summary, um, as I said, we're recommending

698
00:49:24,443 --> 00:49:29,222
a salary band grid in Group 7, which is 95,

699
00:49:29,222 --> 00:49:36,102
680 to 107, 47360. This reflects comparable Northwestern Ontario and

700
00:49:36,142 --> 00:49:39,382
small urban Ontario municipal positions that are similar to this

701
00:49:39,563 --> 00:49:43,142
that have combined inspection and enforcement roles, including the supervisory

702
00:49:43,323 --> 00:49:49,062
responsibilities. So assuming that this gets passed and we start

703
00:49:49,062 --> 00:49:53,382
recruiting and someone can come starting October 1st, our 2026

704
00:49:53,403 --> 00:49:57,462
budget amendment, which would be 73, 210. And we would

705
00:49:57,483 --> 00:50:01,462
fund that through existing salary vacancies. And then our estimated

706
00:50:01,483 --> 00:50:05,542
2027 annualized costs would be 137. 982, which would have

707
00:50:05,542 --> 00:50:10,365
to be considered through the 2027 budget process. So, um,

708
00:50:11,366 --> 00:50:15,225
so it also, uh, aligns with our strategic alignment. So

709
00:50:15,225 --> 00:50:17,505
the request aligns with the city is 20, 26 to

710
00:50:17,846 --> 00:50:26,145
2031 strategic plan, the growth management goal and properties related

711
00:50:26,185 --> 00:50:31,905
to, uh, proactive investment and critical public services, municipal capacity

712
00:50:32,486 --> 00:50:38,042
infrastructure first development. It also supports community safety and wellbeing,

713
00:50:38,042 --> 00:50:41,402
economic and investment diversity and communication in our people through

714
00:50:41,503 --> 00:50:48,543
development approvals, organisational capacity and employee development and retention. Uh,

715
00:50:48,543 --> 00:50:51,863
this is not solely a growth related staffing request. It

716
00:50:51,863 --> 00:50:55,103
is also a risk management and continuity of service measure

717
00:50:55,124 --> 00:50:59,346
for statutory building functions. Approval, like I said, would commit

718
00:50:59,847 --> 00:51:04,066
council to reoccurring annual operating costs beginning in 2027 budget.

719
00:51:05,299 --> 00:51:10,078
And then recruitment and timing, um, of the successful candidate

720
00:51:11,459 --> 00:51:15,838
existing building code identification, number qualifications may affect how quickly

721
00:51:16,339 --> 00:51:20,449
full inspection redundancy is achieved, obviously. And so the options

722
00:51:20,449 --> 00:51:24,009
to consider. Option one is approved the position, which we

723
00:51:24,009 --> 00:51:30,289
recommend. This option provides inspection backup, Bylaws supervision and a

724
00:51:30,289 --> 00:51:34,128
succession pathway for the CBO position. As I said, there'll

725
00:51:34,128 --> 00:51:38,160
be no tax levy impact for 2026. But Council must

726
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,080
be prepared to fund the position recurring costs starting in

727
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:48,167
2027. Option two. Contract building inspection services on a NAS

728
00:51:48,167 --> 00:51:53,207
needed basis. Uh, which is not recommended as a standalone

729
00:51:53,247 --> 00:51:57,207
solution. It provides limited backup, but does not address by

730
00:51:57,228 --> 00:52:00,807
loss supervision or succession planning and availability of contract services

731
00:52:01,068 --> 00:52:05,066
and costs is unpredictable. Option three is enter a shared

732
00:52:05,087 --> 00:52:09,546
service agreement with a neighbouring municipality, also not recommended, distance

733
00:52:09,567 --> 00:52:14,106
and regional capacity constraints, uh, not support timely response to

734
00:52:14,146 --> 00:52:19,140
mandatory inspection timelines. Option four, defer to the 2027 budget

735
00:52:19,180 --> 00:52:22,500
process. It's also not recommended. It extends the current risks

736
00:52:22,681 --> 00:52:25,551
and does not reduce the eventual cost. And then option

737
00:52:25,591 --> 00:52:30,001
five, remain status quo. Which is also not recommended as

738
00:52:30,102 --> 00:52:32,721
it continues a single point to failure and service delivery

739
00:52:32,761 --> 00:52:38,111
risks. Any question. All right. Thank you for your report

740
00:52:38,692 --> 00:52:42,577
and I'll open up four for questions. Councillor Noel. You're

741
00:52:42,617 --> 00:52:48,755
up first. Thank you Mayor Harrison. Thank you for your

742
00:52:48,795 --> 00:52:52,035
report, Ms. Warren. I just have one question. First of

743
00:52:52,035 --> 00:52:55,315
all, I'm supportive of option number one. I'm happy to

744
00:52:55,315 --> 00:52:59,475
have another employee come on the fray here. We certainly

745
00:52:59,515 --> 00:53:03,315
need that, especially given what you've said about the increase

746
00:53:03,976 --> 00:53:07,567
in construction. And the workload that must come with that.

747
00:53:07,607 --> 00:53:09,047
I just wonder if we're going to be able to

748
00:53:09,047 --> 00:53:17,262
find a person that is that. Qualified. So just if

749
00:53:17,302 --> 00:53:23,696
you could comment on. Background that I had read this

750
00:53:23,717 --> 00:53:26,576
is Bylaws Services had delivered by a single municipal law

751
00:53:26,616 --> 00:53:30,557
enforcement officer reporting the chief building official. Was presently no

752
00:53:30,597 --> 00:53:33,117
designated day - to - day supervisor for Bio -

753
00:53:33,117 --> 00:53:39,054
Laws Services Staff. A former coordination for file assignment. Investigation

754
00:53:39,094 --> 00:53:43,854
standards, evidence handling. And this is the part where prefixes

755
00:53:43,894 --> 00:53:47,605
act prosecution readiness. So as this person going to do

756
00:53:47,786 --> 00:53:53,605
all that, including POA prosecution, supervision and readiness.

757
00:54:05,601 --> 00:54:10,700
So through your worship Council Noel. So basically our department,

758
00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:12,380
as we stand right now with my self - assess

759
00:54:12,420 --> 00:54:16,060
chief building official and manager, Building and Planning with our

760
00:54:16,241 --> 00:54:20,623
loan Bylaw officer. Do all of those functions today. Um,

761
00:54:21,304 --> 00:54:25,843
the additional person within the department, obviously allows us to

762
00:54:25,944 --> 00:54:31,603
devote more time and efforts and preparedness in all of

763
00:54:31,643 --> 00:54:35,123
those aspects. So whether that is in the enforcement piece,

764
00:54:35,123 --> 00:54:38,163
whether that is in the education piece for the public.

765
00:54:38,163 --> 00:54:41,683
And then of course on the provincial offensive side, when

766
00:54:41,704 --> 00:54:46,083
we do have challenges to our enforcements, to our offence

767
00:54:46,123 --> 00:54:49,043
tickets writings, all of those things require a lot of

768
00:54:49,064 --> 00:54:54,563
administrative effort together, um, our, our packages to submit to

769
00:54:54,563 --> 00:54:58,643
the court. So the additional person is going to add

770
00:54:58,824 --> 00:55:02,323
to that role and hopefully lessen it across the board.

771
00:55:02,323 --> 00:55:07,107
That's the intent. Okay. So that clarifies it that it's

772
00:55:07,208 --> 00:55:12,467
just for municipal prosecutions basically under the bylaws, the her

773
00:55:12,507 --> 00:55:15,347
municipal bylaws and orders and so on and so forth.

774
00:55:15,347 --> 00:55:18,960
It's not for the regular. Highway traffic active and wildlife

775
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,680
and things like that. That's, that was my, my question.

776
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:27,124
So thank you for that. Okay. We'll go to Councillor

777
00:55:27,164 --> 00:55:32,221
Eckening. Thank you. Say where you are, Pam. Um, okay.

778
00:55:32,221 --> 00:55:40,301
So, and also maybe Marcy. Uh, okay. So first question.

779
00:55:40,301 --> 00:55:46,141
What is the urgency on hiring this position? Um, is

780
00:55:46,141 --> 00:55:50,301
there an option? I assume things were discussed probably at

781
00:55:50,301 --> 00:55:55,341
the Finance Committee that we, uh, just don't know about,

782
00:55:55,341 --> 00:56:00,221
um, is there an option to do any internal cross

783
00:56:00,261 --> 00:56:08,675
training. To kind of supplement. This, um, I guess this

784
00:56:08,715 --> 00:56:13,235
position instead of, you know, hiring and having a whole

785
00:56:13,275 --> 00:56:17,075
new person. Are there, I assume that they've been explored,

786
00:56:17,075 --> 00:56:18,755
but I don't know about them. So I'm just curious

787
00:56:18,755 --> 00:56:26,040
about that. Okay. Three worship. Basically our internal staff are

788
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,680
myself and one By - la officer. That by -

789
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,440
officer is currently going through the in - house training

790
00:56:33,101 --> 00:56:36,760
to understand the by - law enforcement role and peace.

791
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,640
So there's a certification process that goes through that alone.

792
00:56:40,413 --> 00:56:45,512
Second, from that piece is the ability to inspect and

793
00:56:45,533 --> 00:56:49,352
understand building code and the construction industry on how buildings

794
00:56:49,373 --> 00:56:51,912
have to be put together. Um, that is a whole

795
00:56:52,013 --> 00:56:55,272
separate education piece that you either come with as a

796
00:56:55,312 --> 00:56:59,672
carpenter, uh, project leader, project estimator, maybe a designer, whatever

797
00:56:59,933 --> 00:57:04,552
your background is, leads to that. Um, the Bylaw Enforcement

798
00:57:04,573 --> 00:57:07,192
Rule can be learned. The building construction end of thing

799
00:57:07,232 --> 00:57:11,032
is more of somebody coming from that industry. Um, so

800
00:57:11,453 --> 00:57:13,992
our current byla officer is great in the By -

801
00:57:13,992 --> 00:57:17,592
la Officer Role, but his construction industry background is not

802
00:57:17,773 --> 00:57:20,232
existent. So it's better if we can get somebody who

803
00:57:20,253 --> 00:57:23,992
has more experience in both of those realms or at

804
00:57:23,992 --> 00:57:27,112
least comes with that construction. End of things and can

805
00:57:27,112 --> 00:57:29,112
learn the rest of the piece. And then it would

806
00:57:29,293 --> 00:57:32,312
complement both roles and allow us to move forward out

807
00:57:32,352 --> 00:57:37,760
in the public. Okay. So the expertise in that specific

808
00:57:38,981 --> 00:57:44,480
realm is what is lacking currently? Correct. Okay. Um, but,

809
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:51,266
but, uh. Is I, and again, this is maybe a

810
00:57:51,266 --> 00:57:53,346
question that was already asked, but I don't know the

811
00:57:53,447 --> 00:57:59,965
answer. Talking about that specialty or expertise or special training,

812
00:57:59,965 --> 00:58:06,925
um, is, is there a major cost associated, um, to

813
00:58:07,346 --> 00:58:11,645
bring that staff person up to that level versus hiring

814
00:58:11,685 --> 00:58:15,725
a whole new person or is it just the cost

815
00:58:15,746 --> 00:58:18,845
benefit analysis of having a separate person in that role.

816
00:58:20,001 --> 00:58:25,216
Was determined to be the way to go. We will

817
00:58:25,397 --> 00:58:29,136
hopefully luck out to have somebody who has started the

818
00:58:29,317 --> 00:58:34,336
qualification process and comes with that background. However, if that

819
00:58:34,376 --> 00:58:38,416
person does not exist, then yes, anybody who enters into

820
00:58:38,456 --> 00:58:41,376
the role of the inspection side of things requires that

821
00:58:41,477 --> 00:58:45,248
qualification background in order to inspect. So it really doesn't

822
00:58:45,269 --> 00:58:48,288
matter if we were to do that in - house.

823
00:58:48,288 --> 00:58:50,528
That person is still going to go through that process,

824
00:58:50,528 --> 00:58:53,968
but not necessarily having the background experience in the construction

825
00:58:54,069 --> 00:59:02,237
industry. Okay. Um, and so who does the bylaw officer

826
00:59:02,818 --> 00:59:06,943
report to right now. So by - law reports to

827
00:59:06,943 --> 00:59:09,823
me as manager of building and planning and Bylaw, even

828
00:59:09,823 --> 00:59:11,743
though the title doesn't necessarily add by - law in

829
00:59:11,743 --> 00:59:14,783
there, I myself am a certified property standards officer as

830
00:59:14,783 --> 00:59:17,903
well. So I have that same authority. Um, so that

831
00:59:17,903 --> 00:59:21,823
person does report to me. They do have my supervision.

832
00:59:21,823 --> 00:59:26,063
However, my supervision is limited to when I am in

833
00:59:26,103 --> 00:59:29,583
office and or not on the building side of things.

834
00:59:29,583 --> 00:59:33,343
So we need that person that transitions those rules who

835
00:59:33,343 --> 00:59:37,823
can provide that person with more hands - on assistance,

836
00:59:37,823 --> 00:59:41,343
but also supervision. And I can concentrate on what I'm

837
00:59:41,604 --> 00:59:43,583
trained to do, which is the building side of things.

838
00:59:44,004 --> 00:59:50,223
Okay. So from what I'm understanding, your capacity to oversee

839
00:59:50,263 --> 00:59:53,423
that person currently is not where we would like it

840
00:59:53,463 --> 00:59:58,063
to be. My capacity to engage in my entire role

841
00:59:58,564 --> 01:00:02,143
as it currently exists is overdrawn. Yes. Got it. Got

842
01:00:02,143 --> 01:00:07,929
it. Okay. Perfect. Um, Marcy, question for you. How many

843
01:00:08,590 --> 01:00:11,529
non - union employees do we have? And is it

844
01:00:12,190 --> 01:00:17,840
easier for us to hire non - unionized employees. Or

845
01:00:18,181 --> 01:00:21,680
I'm just curious about, um, how or why the decision

846
01:00:21,701 --> 01:00:26,080
to make it a non - union position was brought.

847
01:00:27,130 --> 01:00:30,869
I believe there's 32 full - time, but don't quote

848
01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:33,269
100 percent quote me. I believe it's 32. 32 or

849
01:00:33,290 --> 01:00:37,533
33, non - union right now. It would just, yeah,

850
01:00:37,714 --> 01:00:41,133
all of our by - law, like anything at a

851
01:00:41,154 --> 01:00:44,813
supervisory level is non - union. So supervisory management level

852
01:00:44,914 --> 01:00:48,067
is known union. If you were to go into, um,

853
01:00:48,188 --> 01:00:50,567
a collective agreement. And it would be at a lead

854
01:00:50,588 --> 01:00:55,746
hand. Lead hand roll, not as a supervisory role. And

855
01:00:55,746 --> 01:01:01,055
we're looking for a supervisory position. Gauchy, gotcha. Um, and

856
01:01:01,095 --> 01:01:08,575
so from the report, uh, for 2027's budget, we are

857
01:01:09,236 --> 01:01:11,535
likely going to have to look at some sort of

858
01:01:12,676 --> 01:01:16,015
tax increase to accommodate this position or some sort of

859
01:01:16,356 --> 01:01:23,215
deferral of a city project or priority to accommodate this.

860
01:01:24,820 --> 01:01:27,119
Well, Mr. Nesbitt was going to talk to that one.

861
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,519
Go ahead, Roger. Thank you. Thank you to your worship.

862
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:32,159
I can jump in on that one. Councillor Keening. Yeah.

863
01:01:32,199 --> 01:01:35,839
That's exactly as the report states. Uh, that's a consideration

864
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:38,319
that Council needs to weigh is that this will impact

865
01:01:38,980 --> 01:01:44,719
taxation. Um, uh, going into the 2027 budget or it

866
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:50,079
could impact taxation. Uh, but, and, uh, your conversation, your

867
01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:53,339
back and forth with our CBO finally got to, you

868
01:01:53,339 --> 01:01:56,837
know, one of the key components of this report. Capacity

869
01:01:56,877 --> 01:01:59,477
is overdrawn within the department. It has been for quite

870
01:01:59,498 --> 01:02:03,557
some time. Uh, this, uh, this request is, is probably

871
01:02:03,658 --> 01:02:07,317
overdue at this point. So that's, that's why the recommendation

872
01:02:07,357 --> 01:02:09,717
is, is to do this out of budget. Uh, but

873
01:02:09,818 --> 01:02:12,997
for sure Council wants to be fully aware that by

874
01:02:13,418 --> 01:02:17,077
moving forward on this, this, this is included in House

875
01:02:17,117 --> 01:02:23,716
to be included in the 2027 budget. Okay. We'll go

876
01:02:23,756 --> 01:02:30,246
online to Council McKinnon. Just one quick comment. If you

877
01:02:30,246 --> 01:02:35,526
want this community continue to grow like it should, then

878
01:02:35,526 --> 01:02:38,726
you got to spend some money on employees. So think

879
01:02:38,747 --> 01:02:42,166
about that. Just don't think about reasons to get out

880
01:02:42,206 --> 01:02:45,126
of spending the money. This is a requirement that we

881
01:02:45,227 --> 01:02:50,326
need. Dreden needs lots of new houses that needs lots

882
01:02:50,366 --> 01:02:56,773
of economic work. All that work leads to. People that

883
01:02:57,194 --> 01:03:01,466
know how to do this kind of work. Can't be

884
01:03:01,487 --> 01:03:10,304
resisted. Okay. Thank you. I'll go to Councillor Latham. You

885
01:03:10,304 --> 01:03:14,004
have a question? Uh, through the chair, this is kind

886
01:03:14,004 --> 01:03:17,984
of both the same as what Councillor McKinnon said. Um,

887
01:03:17,984 --> 01:03:20,644
this is actually a good thing because it proves that

888
01:03:20,665 --> 01:03:23,524
we are growing as a community. And that's something that

889
01:03:23,564 --> 01:03:27,584
we've all wanted for a long time. Yeah. Thank you.

890
01:03:27,584 --> 01:03:31,184
Um, it's been a conversation, a couple of conversations when

891
01:03:31,184 --> 01:03:35,664
I've been down to many municipal meetings or conferences chief

892
01:03:35,664 --> 01:03:43,787
billing inspectors. There are statutory. They're in high demand. There's

893
01:03:43,808 --> 01:03:47,337
many municipalities don't have one. Um, so the options are

894
01:03:47,358 --> 01:03:51,177
limited. If you want to move forward, talking to frustrated

895
01:03:51,998 --> 01:03:55,657
mayors who don't have a CBO. So they're have to

896
01:03:55,657 --> 01:03:57,257
have a third party. And they actually have to go

897
01:03:57,278 --> 01:04:00,739
around and take pictures of everything. Sentine out the mayor

898
01:04:00,739 --> 01:04:03,739
himself. But staff member take pictures of all the building

899
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,184
forward it to somebody in another city. And they look

900
01:04:07,184 --> 01:04:11,283
at it. And say, uh, could you go back and

901
01:04:11,323 --> 01:04:13,363
take another picture? Cause I can't really tell if that

902
01:04:13,403 --> 01:04:17,103
stud is in the right place. So very frustrating, uh,

903
01:04:17,144 --> 01:04:22,368
for developers. I have talked to two, uh, two developers

904
01:04:23,189 --> 01:04:25,808
in this city that said we started a project in

905
01:04:25,848 --> 01:04:29,568
another city, but they didn't have the staff to handle

906
01:04:29,568 --> 01:04:33,888
us. So we've actually started our project after theirs and

907
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:36,368
completed and dried because we had the staff to do

908
01:04:36,368 --> 01:04:39,486
it. So that says a lot of the quality of

909
01:04:39,486 --> 01:04:43,886
our staff. And we know they're overworked with 147 percent

910
01:04:43,926 --> 01:04:49,150
increase. And it says, the testament to Dragon is attracting

911
01:04:49,171 --> 01:04:51,550
a lot of development at this moment. So we are

912
01:04:52,051 --> 01:04:54,750
inundated with crust. So I know it's been a strain

913
01:04:54,790 --> 01:04:58,605
on our staff. So. I think this isn't an important

914
01:04:58,626 --> 01:05:03,206
position. If developers come in and they can't get their

915
01:05:03,246 --> 01:05:07,526
approvals in place. And we have actually now statutory requirements

916
01:05:08,107 --> 01:05:11,206
that the, uh, provincial government have tightened that we must

917
01:05:11,387 --> 01:05:17,219
meet without the staff in place. Than we fall behind.

918
01:05:17,219 --> 01:05:22,019
And I think there's actually, some sort of penalty system.

919
01:05:22,019 --> 01:05:24,579
The government penalized a municipality if we can't follow these

920
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,716
obligations. So it's important that we have adequate staff. To

921
01:05:28,977 --> 01:05:32,326
make meet those deadlines. So yeah, so I'm definitely in

922
01:05:32,366 --> 01:05:37,476
favor. Any further comments or questions. We're really, um, is

923
01:05:37,476 --> 01:05:39,476
to bring this as a motion to the future Council

924
01:05:39,516 --> 01:05:46,405
meeting. I assume next Council meeting. So all in faith,

925
01:05:46,405 --> 01:05:48,485
I think I'm seeing everyone in favor of doing this.

926
01:05:48,727 --> 01:05:53,789
Okay. Very good. Thanks. So it's your direction. Thank you.

927
01:05:56,852 --> 01:06:00,311
And thank you. For Pam for the great work you

928
01:06:00,351 --> 01:06:05,673
do and your staff. Okay. I'd like to now recall

929
01:06:05,694 --> 01:06:11,280
Ms. Junko to presenter reports, please. Thank you. You worship.

930
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,605
Good evening Council and members of Public. So tonight my

931
01:06:14,626 --> 01:06:19,884
first report is the Q2 2026 financials. The recommendations that

932
01:06:19,884 --> 01:06:24,603
Council received the report for information purposes. The purpose of

933
01:06:24,643 --> 01:06:27,243
this report is to provide Council with the City's Financial

934
01:06:27,283 --> 01:06:31,323
Results for the period ending June 30th, 2026, including comparison

935
01:06:31,664 --> 01:06:33,563
year - to - date revenue and expenditures for the

936
01:06:33,824 --> 01:06:40,386
2026 operating and capital budgets. The background is the Council

937
01:06:40,407 --> 01:06:47,006
approved the 2026 operating capital budgets January 12th, 2026. The

938
01:06:47,006 --> 01:06:50,946
approved budget provides financial plan for delivering municipal services maintaining

939
01:06:51,127 --> 01:06:57,106
infrastructure, funding capital projects and meeting legislative and operational obligations

940
01:06:57,146 --> 01:07:02,082
for the year. The report includes data from January 1st

941
01:07:02,082 --> 01:07:08,436
to June 30th. Some of the key highlights, um, the

942
01:07:08,436 --> 01:07:13,076
tax levy, we are unfavorable and that's basically intern billing.

943
01:07:13,076 --> 01:07:15,876
It doesn't, it reflects the 50 percent of the 2026

944
01:07:16,057 --> 01:07:19,772
budgeted. So we're a little bit lower there. Other revenue

945
01:07:19,793 --> 01:07:23,932
is unfavorable, mainly due to the June Airport Revenue was

946
01:07:23,972 --> 01:07:26,972
not included, that got put into July. So we're missing

947
01:07:26,972 --> 01:07:31,532
that revenue for airport. And the hockey school programming revenue,

948
01:07:31,532 --> 01:07:36,636
which doesn't start until Q3. The salaries for expenses. We

949
01:07:36,636 --> 01:07:39,556
are under budget for that. And that's mainly due to

950
01:07:39,596 --> 01:07:44,970
vacancies and seasonal positions. Um, the materials and other, we

951
01:07:45,271 --> 01:07:50,210
are, um, under budget there. And again, that's POA Q2

952
01:07:50,250 --> 01:07:54,733
billing was not done until after June 30th. And the

953
01:07:54,834 --> 01:07:59,181
hockey school programming doesn't start until Q3 as well. Um,

954
01:07:59,442 --> 01:08:02,701
and the contract services, the notice we are under budget

955
01:08:02,722 --> 01:08:08,381
there. No spending in public works contract services for hot

956
01:08:08,402 --> 01:08:13,501
mix patching and crack ceiling. That doesn't start until Q3.

957
01:08:13,501 --> 01:08:15,741
And the legal fees are just as I mentioned, legal

958
01:08:15,762 --> 01:08:22,989
fees are over about 113, 000. Are there any questions?

959
01:08:23,090 --> 01:08:31,843
Thank you for reporting any questions from Mr. Chunko. No

960
01:08:32,024 --> 01:08:33,763
questions. You're off the hook, but I just wanted to

961
01:08:33,763 --> 01:08:38,563
say, um, the just the, these reports are getting easier

962
01:08:38,664 --> 01:08:41,583
and easier to understand, which is really, really great. Um,

963
01:08:41,864 --> 01:08:45,603
for us, us newbies. Um, so I just really do

964
01:08:45,864 --> 01:08:50,163
appreciate how they are laid out and how, um, easy

965
01:08:50,424 --> 01:08:57,665
to comprehend they are. So thank you. Thank you. Okay.

966
01:08:58,006 --> 01:09:00,465
Is there no questions? We're receiving this information. Thank you

967
01:09:00,505 --> 01:09:02,385
very much. And you have a second report for us.

968
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,179
Sorry. Thank you. Chair the chair. Um, the next report

969
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:15,019
is to best notice of vesting for 215 and 221

970
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:20,032
Florence from a tax sale. The purpose of this report

971
01:09:20,133 --> 01:09:22,992
is to seek Council's direction on the disposition of the

972
01:09:23,253 --> 01:09:28,352
Tax Cell property following unsuccessful tax sales for 215 Florence

973
01:09:28,373 --> 01:09:34,132
Avenue and 221 Florence Avenue. The recommendation is that Council

974
01:09:34,172 --> 01:09:36,772
Direct Staff to register a notice of vesting for the

975
01:09:36,873 --> 01:09:41,012
properties and to authorize staff to write off outstanding taxes

976
01:09:41,273 --> 01:09:46,052
in the amount of 35, 329 dollars and 21 cents.

977
01:09:47,702 --> 01:09:52,481
The background for 215 Florence, the property was purchased in

978
01:09:52,662 --> 01:09:58,106
2021 by the owner of 221 Florence Street. The property

979
01:09:58,207 --> 01:10:02,310
proceeded to tax cell in 2024. No bids were received

980
01:10:02,411 --> 01:10:06,256
through the Tax Cell. The property is currently listed for

981
01:10:06,296 --> 01:10:11,657
sale through Sunset Country Real Estate for 37, 500. For

982
01:10:11,697 --> 01:10:16,697
221 Florence Street, the property previously proceeded to Tax Sailing

983
01:10:16,718 --> 01:10:21,257
2019 and was purchased in 2019. The property again proceeded

984
01:10:21,297 --> 01:10:25,388
to tax sale in 2024. No bids were received through

985
01:10:25,428 --> 01:10:28,988
the 2024 Tax Sale process. Uh, the property has also

986
01:10:29,009 --> 01:10:31,868
been listed for sale through real estate. However, the listing

987
01:10:31,889 --> 01:10:36,265
has since been removed. A construction lean and certificate of

988
01:10:36,286 --> 01:10:40,985
action has been filed against a property. The lean holder

989
01:10:41,086 --> 01:10:45,267
has obtained a court order. For the sale of the

990
01:10:45,288 --> 01:10:47,747
land with a sale proceed to be paid to the

991
01:10:47,787 --> 01:10:51,665
lean holder. Um, the lien holder, however, has agreed that

992
01:10:51,766 --> 01:10:55,814
the city can go ahead and vest the property. So

993
01:10:57,035 --> 01:10:59,814
prior to proceeding with the Tax Sale process for 221

994
01:11:00,155 --> 01:11:04,134
Florence, the city obtained illegal opinion confirming that the municipality

995
01:11:04,134 --> 01:11:06,614
could proceed with the tax sale. And that cities interest

996
01:11:06,654 --> 01:11:14,783
would be protected. So because of the, there was no

997
01:11:15,044 --> 01:11:17,423
bids for the Tax Sale properties. The city has four

998
01:11:17,444 --> 01:11:21,743
options. We could write off and charge back. Um, these,

999
01:11:21,743 --> 01:11:25,503
the, um, outstanding taxes. And we're going to register or

1000
01:11:25,503 --> 01:11:27,423
we could register and notice of vesting. So we take

1001
01:11:27,444 --> 01:11:31,103
ownership of the property. And then we could, um, declare

1002
01:11:31,124 --> 01:11:34,054
it surplus later on. Uh, we could re - advertise

1003
01:11:34,235 --> 01:11:36,534
for Tax Sale or we could do nothing. Um, and

1004
01:11:36,574 --> 01:11:38,934
then in two years, we'd have to start the Tax

1005
01:11:38,955 --> 01:11:43,254
Hill process all over again. So Staff recommends vesting these

1006
01:11:43,435 --> 01:11:46,054
Tax Sal properties because they have not sold through the

1007
01:11:46,235 --> 01:11:51,814
Taxel Process and leaving it would just continue to accumulate

1008
01:11:51,854 --> 01:11:55,122
taxes. So it would be better just to vest it,

1009
01:11:55,122 --> 01:11:58,738
in our opinion. Financial implications. We have to write off

1010
01:11:58,839 --> 01:12:02,578
35, 329 dollars in 21 cents in tax rears and

1011
01:12:02,578 --> 01:12:07,404
the penalties. Are there any questions? Okay. Thank you for

1012
01:12:07,444 --> 01:12:11,868
your report. Councillor Keeve. Just a quick one. Do you

1013
01:12:11,868 --> 01:12:14,748
have any idea what the school charge back costs would

1014
01:12:14,788 --> 01:12:19,788
be super significant or just the, sorry, the school board

1015
01:12:20,289 --> 01:12:22,593
charge back? Oh, they're not. Yeah. They're not. Huge. I

1016
01:12:22,593 --> 01:12:24,593
don't know exactly the number, but I can find out

1017
01:12:24,593 --> 01:12:26,993
for you if you like for next week. Yeah. Okay.

1018
01:12:29,745 --> 01:12:33,032
These are vacant properties. Yeah. Okay. They are vacant land.

1019
01:12:33,238 --> 01:12:42,351
Yep. Any further questions. Councillor. Through this area. So the

1020
01:12:42,372 --> 01:12:45,311
agreement with the contractor that has to lean when we

1021
01:12:45,572 --> 01:12:49,291
vest it, uh, it still stays in our possession. And

1022
01:12:49,291 --> 01:12:53,151
he's got to, does he still is there a an

1023
01:12:53,151 --> 01:12:55,791
agreement as to what percentage he'll receive on sale of

1024
01:12:55,791 --> 01:12:58,271
it after? No. I mean, as far as I know,

1025
01:12:58,271 --> 01:13:03,071
we get what we, um, we are owed for that.

1026
01:13:03,071 --> 01:13:05,871
And then, uh, it's ours. So he doesn't get anything.

1027
01:13:06,052 --> 01:13:08,271
So he would get the surplus after if the, if

1028
01:13:08,311 --> 01:13:14,511
the, it's coming into our possession. So we own it.

1029
01:13:14,915 --> 01:13:23,015
Okay. Thank you. So the staff is recommending that we

1030
01:13:23,196 --> 01:13:25,415
vest these two properties. That can't go ownership of them.

1031
01:13:26,404 --> 01:13:30,976
Um. That's, and everyone's in favor of that. We're aimed

1032
01:13:30,976 --> 01:13:33,776
to bring this as a bylaw to, or September 4th

1033
01:13:33,797 --> 01:13:39,851
meeting. Born in favor of that. Nodding heads. Yep. Okay.

1034
01:13:40,912 --> 01:13:46,370
Very good. There's your direction. Thank you. Thank you. So

1035
01:13:46,410 --> 01:13:50,370
we have no, no. We have one motion this evening,

1036
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:55,593
which we'll ask the correct review. Thank you. You worship

1037
01:13:55,614 --> 01:13:59,273
at the last meeting. I advise that Mayor Harrison had

1038
01:13:59,313 --> 01:14:02,233
put forth a notice of motion. So it comes forward

1039
01:14:02,414 --> 01:14:06,623
this evening as a motion. And I believe. I'll ask

1040
01:14:07,044 --> 01:14:10,863
Councillor Lethum, who's our deputy mayor to chair this section

1041
01:14:10,884 --> 01:14:13,023
of it so I can speak on behalf of my

1042
01:14:13,023 --> 01:14:17,516
motion. Did you want to stay there or switch chairs

1043
01:14:17,617 --> 01:14:21,610
more? Okay. I'll turn it over to you. Mr. Chair.

1044
01:14:28,048 --> 01:14:36,347
So Harrison, can you cover your report, please? Right. Uh,

1045
01:14:36,688 --> 01:14:42,013
thank you, Chair. Mr. Chair. Um, yeah, I talked a

1046
01:14:42,013 --> 01:14:43,613
little bit about why we're bringing this. I think we

1047
01:14:43,613 --> 01:14:46,233
do have to clear the air on this one. Um,

1048
01:14:46,914 --> 01:14:51,933
there's really three reasons why I'm bringing rescind or, or

1049
01:14:51,933 --> 01:14:54,858
the basis of it. You know, I appreciate the time

1050
01:14:54,959 --> 01:14:58,538
and effort that was put by folks and the cost

1051
01:14:58,559 --> 01:15:01,658
to bring this plan forward by almost 16 years ago

1052
01:15:01,759 --> 01:15:03,978
now. But I think we have to consider the time

1053
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:08,550
has changed considerably in our community since that time. You

1054
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:11,190
know, we think about that 16, actually probably 20 years

1055
01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:13,670
ago when they started thinking about waterfront development with the

1056
01:15:13,771 --> 01:15:18,899
2008 plan and then morphed into 2010. You know, you

1057
01:15:18,899 --> 01:15:21,379
look back to that time, the local pulp and paper

1058
01:15:21,379 --> 01:15:26,231
mill had significantly downsized. You know, from well over 1200

1059
01:15:26,332 --> 01:15:30,471
employees to down to about 350. People, and the sense

1060
01:15:30,471 --> 01:15:33,971
in the forest industry that their days were numbered, uh,

1061
01:15:34,412 --> 01:15:36,151
they were in a bit of death spiral. And the

1062
01:15:36,151 --> 01:15:38,791
city would need to shift become more of a tourist

1063
01:15:38,972 --> 01:15:45,702
destination, much like our neighbour Kanora. Times have changed because

1064
01:15:45,702 --> 01:15:48,502
I'm happy report in our area. The forest industry is

1065
01:15:48,542 --> 01:15:52,026
very strong and healthy. Uh, the new owners driving fibre

1066
01:15:52,066 --> 01:15:55,866
Canada, you know, continue to provide high quality jobs. They've

1067
01:15:55,866 --> 01:15:59,968
increased the employment from 350 to 400. We still have

1068
01:16:00,389 --> 01:16:05,648
approximately 400 employees in the forced lands. Harvesting and hauling

1069
01:16:05,688 --> 01:16:10,059
to the mill. And this company is now contributing a

1070
01:16:10,099 --> 01:16:14,219
regional economic impact about 550 million dollars to our area

1071
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,841
quite substantial. Uh, make it not only major employer, but

1072
01:16:17,882 --> 01:16:23,061
really a cornerstone for economic growth, community development Northwest. Actually,

1073
01:16:23,162 --> 01:16:26,501
we're pretty fortunate last since I retired from full -

1074
01:16:26,501 --> 01:16:29,381
time work. I've been doing some consulting work and going

1075
01:16:29,402 --> 01:16:35,461
around the Northwest Northeast doing independent forest audits of communities

1076
01:16:36,682 --> 01:16:40,661
from Fort Francis to marathon and all parts in between.

1077
01:16:42,298 --> 01:16:45,957
And Northwest Ontario is a very special spot in that

1078
01:16:45,978 --> 01:16:49,146
we have full markets for all their products. Uh, some

1079
01:16:49,167 --> 01:16:51,306
of the ones out Easter missing a Pult Mill without

1080
01:16:51,327 --> 01:16:54,506
a Pult Mill. You're really challenged to cut conifer. They

1081
01:16:54,506 --> 01:16:56,586
don't have a hardwood market like we have down in

1082
01:16:56,626 --> 01:17:01,437
Baruck or Kanora. So we are fully utilising our, uh,

1083
01:17:02,918 --> 01:17:05,857
our wood supply basket and the Poltmill local is the

1084
01:17:05,958 --> 01:17:09,057
key that will make all this happen. So we're very

1085
01:17:09,057 --> 01:17:13,037
fortunate that this company has purchased it. So a lot

1086
01:17:13,037 --> 01:17:17,737
of growth opportunities. And also what the big change, I

1087
01:17:17,737 --> 01:17:23,777
think, uh, like this, this plan is really focusing on

1088
01:17:23,878 --> 01:17:28,100
developing a four season. A tourist destination. You know, when

1089
01:17:28,441 --> 01:17:32,020
reality, you know, that would be very difficult to achieve

1090
01:17:33,801 --> 01:17:38,062
and doubtful. Uh, to obtain. And really, you look at

1091
01:17:38,062 --> 01:17:42,142
the plan in depth. It really adds more taxation burden

1092
01:17:42,142 --> 01:17:45,662
to our resident. I'm sure Council Redoff would probably go

1093
01:17:45,662 --> 01:17:49,342
on more detail than I will. But we're looking at

1094
01:17:49,523 --> 01:17:52,862
a different scenario where we saw a decline in population.

1095
01:17:53,717 --> 01:17:56,316
A lot of young people leave our community. We've got

1096
01:17:56,316 --> 01:17:59,576
the opposite happening. We've got a lot of growth, a

1097
01:17:59,576 --> 01:18:04,108
lot of potential. Really the necessity is developing a housing

1098
01:18:04,108 --> 01:18:07,010
needs for the upcoming growth of our community. Such as

1099
01:18:07,010 --> 01:18:09,810
the mining and energy activities that are real create new

1100
01:18:09,850 --> 01:18:13,274
jobs and putting pressures on our municipality. To plan for

1101
01:18:13,375 --> 01:18:15,514
this growth. That's part of our leadership is we need

1102
01:18:15,514 --> 01:18:19,620
to plan for incoming growth. Our population is expected to

1103
01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:24,798
grow over 9, 000 over the next decade. So really

1104
01:18:25,539 --> 01:18:28,958
our responsibility is to, is to look at what's happening

1105
01:18:28,979 --> 01:18:33,358
today and address those planning issues. Take for example like

1106
01:18:33,398 --> 01:18:37,198
NWO is Billy and a new billion Ignis. They say

1107
01:18:37,539 --> 01:18:41,198
160 to 200 employees there. That's a big deal. So

1108
01:18:41,379 --> 01:18:44,054
where are they going to live. So I mean, they

1109
01:18:44,054 --> 01:18:47,014
could all live in ignies. They could move to Dryden.

1110
01:18:47,014 --> 01:18:51,414
But say, for example, 80 half that, say take the

1111
01:18:51,414 --> 01:18:55,254
low number 16 employees, half that 80 decide to move

1112
01:18:55,355 --> 01:18:59,174
to Dryden. What side, what's the impact for our community.

1113
01:19:00,235 --> 01:19:04,032
80 homes. Do we have Adams for sale? No. Think

1114
01:19:04,072 --> 01:19:11,169
about who maybe, um, coming. Nuclear scientists, well paid. Who's

1115
01:19:11,169 --> 01:19:14,449
going to be able to compete for our homes, will

1116
01:19:14,449 --> 01:19:16,929
our locals be able to compete for homes? It'll be

1117
01:19:16,929 --> 01:19:20,209
challenging. Like we have good paying jobs, but so we

1118
01:19:20,230 --> 01:19:23,969
need to protect our local citizens from to make sure

1119
01:19:23,969 --> 01:19:25,929
that they have the housing we have name. Because we

1120
01:19:25,929 --> 01:19:28,369
all want our kids to stay and dried, don't we?

1121
01:19:28,409 --> 01:19:33,142
So our focus from 16 years ago has changed. Housing

1122
01:19:33,243 --> 01:19:36,426
has become a focus. I guess the second reason I

1123
01:19:36,447 --> 01:19:42,506
look at the folks's plan is not really financially viable

1124
01:19:42,767 --> 01:19:44,986
for our city. You look at the centrepiece of the

1125
01:19:45,026 --> 01:19:50,346
development of the plan is this Ontario outdoor education centre.

1126
01:19:50,346 --> 01:19:53,472
And also the relocation number of museum. And there was

1127
01:19:53,512 --> 01:19:59,392
no viable business plan component for this Ontario outdoor education

1128
01:20:00,213 --> 01:20:05,136
centre. It suggested that the canora Patricia district school board

1129
01:20:05,317 --> 01:20:09,136
may be operated or perhaps the seed of Dryden or

1130
01:20:09,136 --> 01:20:12,736
maybe the northwest Catholic school board would all contribute to

1131
01:20:12,776 --> 01:20:18,766
make it a viable option. Most successful outdoor education centres

1132
01:20:19,827 --> 01:20:22,286
range from anywhere from 5, 000 at a low end

1133
01:20:22,326 --> 01:20:24,846
to 20, 000 on a high end. Would we be

1134
01:20:24,846 --> 01:20:28,741
able to track even the low end. Of 5, 000?

1135
01:20:28,741 --> 01:20:30,901
The plan says, well, maybe we can, the school board

1136
01:20:31,002 --> 01:20:34,021
will pay to bus every child from the whole Knorr

1137
01:20:34,042 --> 01:20:38,261
District, from Knorr Red Lake Ignis to hear throughout our

1138
01:20:38,301 --> 01:20:43,005
education. Is that. Really likely possibility. I mean, we have

1139
01:20:43,005 --> 01:20:45,325
to ask the questions when we look at the amenities

1140
01:20:45,325 --> 01:20:49,005
that we have, you know, who's going to pay for

1141
01:20:49,045 --> 01:20:53,110
the amenities. Or what's the, what's the cost? Who's going

1142
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:55,830
to pay? And then what's the burden on the taxpayer.

1143
01:20:57,113 --> 01:21:00,291
That's questions we're asking this report. So it's nice to

1144
01:21:00,331 --> 01:21:03,091
think, yeah, it'd be nice to have one, but is

1145
01:21:03,131 --> 01:21:08,411
it financially viable? What's the burden on the taxpayer. We,

1146
01:21:08,411 --> 01:21:10,171
you know, when I come to this job, it's an

1147
01:21:10,211 --> 01:21:13,211
eye opener when you look at how many beautiful amenities

1148
01:21:13,251 --> 01:21:16,811
we have when we look at a double arena pool,

1149
01:21:16,811 --> 01:21:22,514
fitness centre, beautiful baseball diamonds. This goes on soccer fields,

1150
01:21:22,514 --> 01:21:27,133
but they're all tax. They're all supported by residents. Tax.

1151
01:21:27,133 --> 01:21:29,458
Your taxes are going to support that. To increase our

1152
01:21:29,498 --> 01:21:32,738
quality of life. So we know we have a heavy

1153
01:21:32,839 --> 01:21:36,058
tax burden. Every amenity that we add, we have to

1154
01:21:36,058 --> 01:21:39,298
really ask that question. What's the burden on the taxpayer?

1155
01:21:39,399 --> 01:21:42,882
That question has not been asked in this report. When

1156
01:21:42,882 --> 01:21:46,082
you think about an outdoor education centre, like would a

1157
01:21:46,122 --> 01:21:49,922
large communities come to Dryden to have one here? Like

1158
01:21:50,343 --> 01:21:52,722
go to Winnipeg. I'd been to Omad Marsh. I hope

1159
01:21:52,762 --> 01:21:55,682
you all have. It's a wonderful outdoor education north of

1160
01:21:55,722 --> 01:21:58,642
town, north of Winnipeg. You can see the geese fly

1161
01:21:58,682 --> 01:22:01,282
in. It's just, it's amazing. They have the Fort White

1162
01:22:01,322 --> 01:22:04,856
Centre. What's the business case for them to travel four

1163
01:22:04,856 --> 01:22:08,056
hours to dried in for something similar. Outrider Education near

1164
01:22:08,096 --> 01:22:13,354
a marsh. We have to ask those questions. Would this

1165
01:22:13,394 --> 01:22:18,909
be financially viable? I think not. But I think the

1166
01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:21,229
lastly, and I was kind of surprised when I went

1167
01:22:21,229 --> 01:22:26,649
to the Detailed proposals there because they have drawings. And

1168
01:22:26,649 --> 01:22:30,350
you look closely at the public access that's proposed. And

1169
01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:32,990
the plan really calls for the commercialization of the boat

1170
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:37,740
launch. And dock space. What do you see disappear? You

1171
01:22:37,740 --> 01:22:41,600
see the Public boat launch, which is free for everyone

1172
01:22:41,621 --> 01:22:46,021
to use Garn. It's moved into a commercial area. People

1173
01:22:46,021 --> 01:22:49,414
have to pay. To use that boat launch. What if

1174
01:22:49,435 --> 01:22:52,694
our doc that people enjoy and Fischer off and swim

1175
01:22:52,715 --> 01:22:59,105
off of. That's reventually replaced by a commercial marina. Does

1176
01:22:59,126 --> 01:23:01,025
this council want to take away the free use of

1177
01:23:01,065 --> 01:23:05,425
a boat launch? And, uh, the land, the Van Horn

1178
01:23:05,465 --> 01:23:10,546
Doc, which we just reinvigorated and put money into. You

1179
01:23:10,546 --> 01:23:11,826
know, does this Council want to be the one who

1180
01:23:11,826 --> 01:23:14,706
eliminates that free access to Open Lake for all our

1181
01:23:14,746 --> 01:23:17,106
exhibition, but I want to overhaul their shocks owners of

1182
01:23:17,106 --> 01:23:19,106
the leak. Or our neighbours to the south who use

1183
01:23:19,106 --> 01:23:22,703
it to cut off time. So I think in conclusion,

1184
01:23:23,124 --> 01:23:26,393
this is an outdated waterfront plan. It's not really relevant

1185
01:23:26,414 --> 01:23:30,318
today. I think it actually reduces access to what we

1186
01:23:30,318 --> 01:23:34,798
have. And as a very high potential of putting a

1187
01:23:34,798 --> 01:23:37,598
tax burden on our residence for manys, that would be

1188
01:23:37,939 --> 01:23:41,988
a little used to our community. So I encourage Council

1189
01:23:41,988 --> 01:23:46,546
members to stay the course that we've been on. We,

1190
01:23:46,546 --> 01:23:49,426
with our master plan, we'll enhance our waterfront. We will

1191
01:23:49,466 --> 01:23:52,866
create open spaces to folks to enjoy. We also focus

1192
01:23:53,207 --> 01:23:56,846
on our housing stock to meet the coming demand. And

1193
01:23:56,846 --> 01:24:00,306
while doing so, we also increase the property taxes generated

1194
01:24:00,727 --> 01:24:04,866
by creating all these housing. We have already attacked high

1195
01:24:04,887 --> 01:24:08,386
tax burden for amenities by bringing in, uh, new folks

1196
01:24:08,967 --> 01:24:12,546
and housing them increasing our property taxes. It actually may

1197
01:24:12,567 --> 01:24:15,186
reduce our tax burden for individuals. So as a win

1198
01:24:15,226 --> 01:24:19,106
- win, and I really urge the Council to rescind

1199
01:24:19,207 --> 01:24:21,346
this 16 - year - old water plan so we

1200
01:24:21,346 --> 01:24:24,215
can go in the right direction. That this city needs

1201
01:24:24,396 --> 01:24:30,109
today. Thank you. Thank you, your worship. Does anybody have

1202
01:24:30,130 --> 01:24:39,242
any questions for the mayor. Council Noel. Thank you.

1203
01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:46,330
Chair Latham. Just a question, like why do we have

1204
01:24:46,330 --> 01:24:49,850
to abandon? Why can't we edit it accordingly? Like I

1205
01:24:49,850 --> 01:24:53,963
agree with many of your comments. Mayor Harrison saved the

1206
01:24:53,984 --> 01:24:57,563
one about, uh, our kids. I want our kids to

1207
01:24:57,664 --> 01:24:59,643
go out and experience the world and come back here

1208
01:24:59,744 --> 01:25:05,281
if they so choose. Um. I mean, both my kids

1209
01:25:05,321 --> 01:25:09,830
are here. I'm grateful for that. So yeah, if you

1210
01:25:09,870 --> 01:25:12,950
could comment on why it is that we can't just

1211
01:25:13,211 --> 01:25:15,190
amend that plan. Cause I'm looking at all the people

1212
01:25:15,211 --> 01:25:20,390
who put in time the citizens and the project team.

1213
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:22,470
And there were a lot of smart passionate people involved

1214
01:25:22,491 --> 01:25:26,310
in this back when it was implemented. I do agree

1215
01:25:26,731 --> 01:25:31,309
though. Things have changed drastically since then. So. If you

1216
01:25:31,349 --> 01:25:35,746
could perhaps comment on that. Thanks. Yeah. Sure. I'll be

1217
01:25:35,746 --> 01:25:39,266
happy to. I think the focus is entirely on a

1218
01:25:39,306 --> 01:25:43,106
forest. He's in tourists destination. There's so much to be

1219
01:25:43,127 --> 01:25:46,626
changed on that plan. For instance, a large part of

1220
01:25:46,647 --> 01:25:51,426
the Eminar property is devoted to a seasonal RV park.

1221
01:25:52,112 --> 01:25:55,963
Really a seasonal RV park. Does that what we need

1222
01:25:56,384 --> 01:25:59,403
in our community? No. Like that's, so many things. Do

1223
01:25:59,443 --> 01:26:03,803
we need outdoor education cetera? No. Do we need, should

1224
01:26:03,803 --> 01:26:06,874
the museum be relocated down there. I think you'll find

1225
01:26:06,895 --> 01:26:10,874
that the best place if we're going to relocate a

1226
01:26:10,914 --> 01:26:13,194
museum is on the highway. So we can get traffic

1227
01:26:13,234 --> 01:26:17,434
coming through. Stop in, you know, kids spend some time.

1228
01:26:17,434 --> 01:26:20,154
That's, you get a high traffic area on our, on

1229
01:26:20,415 --> 01:26:23,274
our streets. Or highway out there because we're actually being

1230
01:26:23,375 --> 01:26:27,114
on the main highway is incredibly beneficial for businesses and

1231
01:26:27,154 --> 01:26:32,074
commercials. So the like about it. The 2010 plan also

1232
01:26:32,095 --> 01:26:36,074
took into place the private property owned by the nature's

1233
01:26:36,114 --> 01:26:38,394
in and the other properties. And they kind of said,

1234
01:26:38,394 --> 01:26:40,874
well, we want you to follow our plan or basically

1235
01:26:41,295 --> 01:26:45,194
solace the plan. So are we going to now expropriate.

1236
01:26:46,863 --> 01:26:51,299
Private property. No, like the master planets were going is

1237
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,539
going to just utilise them and our base land base

1238
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,379
and the 10 acres. So yeah, I think it's the

1239
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,899
master plan going with the master plan and giving this

1240
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,699
new, this current residence and opportunity to, I say, is

1241
01:27:05,739 --> 01:27:15,692
the right way to go. Target. Through the

1242
01:27:15,953 --> 01:27:21,913
sheriff. Again. Um, I guess I look at things too

1243
01:27:21,953 --> 01:27:25,873
quickly out of a financial lens. And I understand the

1244
01:27:25,913 --> 01:27:29,073
situation leadership was in at the time they developed this

1245
01:27:29,113 --> 01:27:32,755
plan and that. But I had a hard time going

1246
01:27:32,795 --> 01:27:34,435
through it because every time I saw any of their

1247
01:27:34,475 --> 01:27:40,955
financial justifications or plans, it was totally irresponsible spending, in

1248
01:27:40,955 --> 01:27:46,575
my opinion. And, uh. Mayor Harrison mentioned the tax burden.

1249
01:27:46,575 --> 01:27:48,975
And I mean, to even come close to this on

1250
01:27:48,996 --> 01:27:52,255
the assumptions that were in here, you're talking double digit

1251
01:27:52,356 --> 01:27:54,655
tax increases to try and fund this. Just the order

1252
01:27:54,695 --> 01:27:59,215
of construction they did putting the non commercial, uh, parts

1253
01:27:59,215 --> 01:28:01,535
of the phases of the project ahead of everything meant

1254
01:28:01,636 --> 01:28:04,335
that was coming out of municipal coffers, which we don't

1255
01:28:04,356 --> 01:28:12,155
have, uh, they allude to FISA, Financial feasibility studies, but

1256
01:28:12,155 --> 01:28:15,135
never do them. And to pass a plan before you've

1257
01:28:15,135 --> 01:28:20,415
done that again, I find that totally irresponsible. Um, it's,

1258
01:28:20,415 --> 01:28:24,655
you look at these numbers and the assumptions. The assumptions

1259
01:28:24,655 --> 01:28:26,735
that the school board is going to pay for 30

1260
01:28:26,775 --> 01:28:33,138
percent of construction centre. So that part at least doesn't

1261
01:28:33,178 --> 01:28:36,578
hit your property tax, but your school board tax assures

1262
01:28:36,599 --> 01:28:39,138
hell is going to go up. I mean, everything in

1263
01:28:39,178 --> 01:28:43,138
here, we're just getting out from under the debt of

1264
01:28:43,138 --> 01:28:46,498
the other decisions to do with a cell phone company.

1265
01:28:46,498 --> 01:28:48,738
We got four years left to pay for that. It's

1266
01:28:48,738 --> 01:28:52,040
another four million dollars going to be paid out. Well,

1267
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,160
this is coming in. And this, uh, if you take

1268
01:28:55,160 --> 01:29:00,680
the cumulative inflation area increases since this plan was developed,

1269
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,400
we're looking at 60 percent on your average consumer goods

1270
01:29:03,661 --> 01:29:07,720
when it comes to construction, you're looking 250 percent probably

1271
01:29:12,381 --> 01:29:15,480
200 million. And just we should know just from the

1272
01:29:15,581 --> 01:29:20,632
proposals we received. This project is a 200 million dollar

1273
01:29:20,653 --> 01:29:25,432
project. And on the low side municipal participation at 30

1274
01:29:25,472 --> 01:29:29,152
percent, And we know that the government ain't going to

1275
01:29:29,152 --> 01:29:31,112
jump in and say, Oh, here's a check. Go for

1276
01:29:31,112 --> 01:29:33,812
it. So where do you get that from? Are you

1277
01:29:33,853 --> 01:29:37,592
going to finance 60 million dollars over 20 years and

1278
01:29:37,693 --> 01:29:40,312
pay another 60 million in interest before we get close

1279
01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:42,392
to it? And we're going to be 20 to 25

1280
01:29:42,733 --> 01:29:45,752
percent property tax increases to try and keep up with

1281
01:29:45,792 --> 01:29:48,592
it. I mean, you can't be chasing this kind of

1282
01:29:48,592 --> 01:29:52,072
debt. And it's beautiful and it's great. And it's really

1283
01:29:52,072 --> 01:29:54,233
good. If someone else is paying for it. But that's

1284
01:29:54,273 --> 01:29:56,965
not what's going to happen. We're paying for this. And

1285
01:29:57,386 --> 01:30:04,165
we've got these other plans. We've got what Matthews presented

1286
01:30:04,186 --> 01:30:06,485
tonight. We've got the opportunity to bring in a developer.

1287
01:30:07,150 --> 01:30:09,129
But if you tell a developer, yeah, we'd like a

1288
01:30:09,129 --> 01:30:13,751
hundred million for me. But you don't get to say

1289
01:30:13,772 --> 01:30:18,490
in. Like, and that's what this is. This is way

1290
01:30:18,591 --> 01:30:23,050
too much government involvement. Because we are government. And if

1291
01:30:23,050 --> 01:30:25,770
we're going to stick our noses into how somebody spends

1292
01:30:25,791 --> 01:30:30,250
their money, that's like, yeah, getting an inheritance wanting to

1293
01:30:30,290 --> 01:30:32,170
invest it somewhere and someone telling, Oh, no, we should

1294
01:30:32,170 --> 01:30:33,690
keep that over here so we can spend it on

1295
01:30:33,730 --> 01:30:40,793
something else. It's foolish. It's, and this is a, and

1296
01:30:40,793 --> 01:30:42,873
it's a nice plan, but it's just not feasible for

1297
01:30:42,913 --> 01:30:46,869
our community. Not unless we buy Super Bowl tickets and

1298
01:30:46,909 --> 01:30:49,829
states and win something. It's not, it's not something we

1299
01:30:49,869 --> 01:30:54,309
should even be considering. And I, I really wish they

1300
01:30:54,490 --> 01:30:57,909
hadn't accepted it until they spent a little more time

1301
01:30:58,010 --> 01:31:03,509
getting the studies done right financially. And Councillor Noel said,

1302
01:31:03,509 --> 01:31:06,411
how about revamping it. Again, I don't know if that's

1303
01:31:06,411 --> 01:31:11,131
spending throwing good money after that already. If there's that

1304
01:31:11,171 --> 01:31:13,451
old saying that, uh, doing the same thing over again

1305
01:31:13,552 --> 01:31:17,851
and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.

1306
01:31:17,851 --> 01:31:20,573
And that's what this looks like to me. So. Uh,

1307
01:31:20,834 --> 01:31:21,613
just my comments on.

1308
01:31:30,676 --> 01:31:37,326
Thank you through the chair. To me, this sounds like

1309
01:31:38,867 --> 01:31:46,021
an opportunity for our counsel and our community members. To

1310
01:31:46,042 --> 01:31:56,025
start fresh. I am fairly optimistic. That. By

1311
01:31:58,846 --> 01:32:03,825
trusting our community members, trusting our staff to kind of

1312
01:32:04,046 --> 01:32:06,825
lead us through this process that we are going to

1313
01:32:07,006 --> 01:32:12,905
come away with something that is great for our community.

1314
01:32:14,429 --> 01:32:18,088
That, you know, works out in favor for these developers

1315
01:32:18,109 --> 01:32:21,288
who, you know, kind of want to build what they

1316
01:32:21,309 --> 01:32:26,408
want to build, but also take deep consideration from our

1317
01:32:26,829 --> 01:32:34,468
indigenous community members, other indigenous leadership, um, our citizens, our

1318
01:32:34,468 --> 01:32:43,001
council, our staff members. So all of that being said,

1319
01:32:43,001 --> 01:32:50,513
I feel more comfortable. Accepting the motion to rescind this

1320
01:32:50,694 --> 01:32:55,553
plan because I think that we, I think that we

1321
01:32:55,553 --> 01:32:59,713
can do it better. I think that we can take

1322
01:33:00,054 --> 01:33:03,153
all of the information that we have. We can listen

1323
01:33:03,254 --> 01:33:06,593
to our constituents and listen to our staff and move

1324
01:33:06,633 --> 01:33:12,470
this forward. At a pace that kind of works for

1325
01:33:12,731 --> 01:33:19,110
everyone. Again, maybe I'm insane and or optimistic about this.

1326
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:26,236
But I really believe that. There is a way for

1327
01:33:26,236 --> 01:33:32,716
us to move forward where people will be content with

1328
01:33:33,137 --> 01:33:38,063
the plan that our community has come up with. So

1329
01:33:38,084 --> 01:33:42,063
I think, you know, if we're focusing on what our

1330
01:33:42,103 --> 01:33:49,103
community wants to see, um, what is reasonable, uh, to

1331
01:33:49,124 --> 01:33:52,703
our developers and to staff, like I think that that

1332
01:33:53,044 --> 01:33:59,991
all needs to be considered. So. I think it's a,

1333
01:33:59,991 --> 01:34:01,911
it's a great opportunity for us to kind of start

1334
01:34:02,012 --> 01:34:06,416
fresh. Things have definitely changed in the last 16 years.

1335
01:34:07,297 --> 01:34:10,716
Um, and so, yeah, we, we really do have a

1336
01:34:10,716 --> 01:34:15,916
great opportunity ahead of us to, to do something different,

1337
01:34:15,916 --> 01:34:20,156
um, that still meets all of those kind of like

1338
01:34:20,177 --> 01:34:24,330
lofty goals. Um, and ideals, you know, within the original

1339
01:34:24,511 --> 01:34:30,250
plan, but also kind of create something new and fresh,

1340
01:34:30,250 --> 01:34:35,933
hopefully in this new plan. Thank you. Councillor Taref. Yeah,

1341
01:34:35,933 --> 01:34:37,853
through chair again. I just wanted to add that there

1342
01:34:37,893 --> 01:34:39,853
had been the comment out there that what was the

1343
01:34:40,034 --> 01:34:42,253
rush to do this as we're going to be going

1344
01:34:42,293 --> 01:34:44,573
to a new council. And I think that's an important

1345
01:34:44,674 --> 01:34:47,133
thing, uh, that, uh, the new Council should have the

1346
01:34:47,154 --> 01:34:49,853
opportunity to take the information, whether it was presented tonight

1347
01:34:50,594 --> 01:34:56,335
from our building staff and every planning staff. And like

1348
01:34:56,356 --> 01:34:58,975
Catherine was saying formulate something that's going to work for

1349
01:34:58,975 --> 01:35:03,855
the community rather than being handcuffed to an outdated financially

1350
01:35:03,956 --> 01:35:08,015
and unfeasible, uh, plan, uh, should never have been passed.

1351
01:35:13,139 --> 01:35:20,914
Uh, any more questions. Councillor Noel. You chairly.

1352
01:35:23,518 --> 01:35:26,457
Right up until this discussion started tonight. I was leaning

1353
01:35:26,478 --> 01:35:30,297
towards not supporting the notice of motion, but I'm so

1354
01:35:30,318 --> 01:35:34,277
grateful that some of the questions that were asked, uh,

1355
01:35:34,558 --> 01:35:38,297
Councillor Tardif explaining the numbers. He's always very good at

1356
01:35:38,297 --> 01:35:43,614
that. Um. And my review again on, on what the

1357
01:35:43,795 --> 01:35:47,854
information the committee had at the time to come up

1358
01:35:47,894 --> 01:35:52,734
with this plan has changed drastically, our population is certainly

1359
01:35:52,774 --> 01:35:57,514
different. Median household income is different. Um, there's a lot

1360
01:35:57,514 --> 01:36:01,522
of things that are different now. Uh, that there's no

1361
01:36:01,543 --> 01:36:04,002
way that this team could have foreseen at the time.

1362
01:36:04,534 --> 01:36:11,313
So I'm, I'm thankfully changing my position on supporting this.

1363
01:36:11,313 --> 01:36:15,393
So I probably would support this, um, notice a motion.

1364
01:36:20,293 --> 01:36:27,140
I guess I get to speak. Um. I still believe

1365
01:36:27,161 --> 01:36:29,620
that there's a lot of good things in that plan.

1366
01:36:30,892 --> 01:36:36,231
Uh, I'm hearing what everybody's saying. But, um, with perhaps

1367
01:36:36,252 --> 01:36:39,551
a new Council coming on, it may be able to

1368
01:36:39,551 --> 01:36:42,871
give people some ideas of what's feasible and what's not

1369
01:36:43,052 --> 01:36:46,231
feasible. I know for sure when they talk about putting

1370
01:36:46,332 --> 01:36:51,111
the arena down there, I'm on the committee that museum

1371
01:36:51,151 --> 01:36:55,314
meeting. And we have kind of other ideas of where,

1372
01:36:55,314 --> 01:36:58,354
where it should go and, uh, stuff like that. But

1373
01:36:59,175 --> 01:37:04,834
I'm still stuck on this staying around and giving people

1374
01:37:05,095 --> 01:37:08,874
some information for the next plans that we're going to

1375
01:37:08,935 --> 01:37:09,234
be doing.

1376
01:37:20,427 --> 01:37:25,574
For the motion, please. Council of Price. Seconder Councillor Taref.

1377
01:37:25,574 --> 01:37:29,494
Thank you. Move by Councillor Price, seconded by Councillor Tardif,

1378
01:37:29,494 --> 01:37:38,485
that Council hereby consider. No. Let's start again. Move by

1379
01:37:38,525 --> 01:37:40,885
Councillor Price. Second by Councillor Tired. F. The Council here

1380
01:37:40,986 --> 01:37:44,085
by rescind the Adoption of the Phasing and Implementation Strategy

1381
01:37:44,266 --> 01:37:49,525
outlined in the sustainable waterfront development planal report dated May

1382
01:37:50,106 --> 01:37:52,687
2010. All in favor.

1383
01:38:01,345 --> 01:38:08,048
Carried. Did I say that wrong. You gave me.

1384
01:38:11,419 --> 01:38:16,023
Thank you, Councillor Lathan for leading that portion of. Thanks

1385
01:38:16,124 --> 01:38:20,384
everyone for your participation and discussion. So we're down to

1386
01:38:20,725 --> 01:38:23,664
Administrative Reports and I'll call REO, Mr. Nesbitt, for his

1387
01:38:23,664 --> 01:38:28,645
report, please. Thank you. Three of your worship. As I

1388
01:38:28,645 --> 01:38:32,725
recorded, I believe at the last meeting of Council, we

1389
01:38:32,986 --> 01:38:38,165
were on our way to the Ontario Municipal Association Conference

1390
01:38:38,266 --> 01:38:43,925
in Ottawa. I did attend with Mayor Harrison and Councillor

1391
01:38:44,026 --> 01:38:47,445
Price. I won't, um, I won't cover all the details

1392
01:38:47,706 --> 01:38:50,405
because I believe Mayor Harrison is going to cover those

1393
01:38:50,426 --> 01:38:52,225
off. So I don't want to step on him. But

1394
01:38:52,225 --> 01:38:55,345
it was, uh, it was a good conference, productive, uh,

1395
01:38:56,266 --> 01:38:58,885
we were able to meet with, uh, with, uh, I

1396
01:38:58,885 --> 01:39:01,765
think about a half dozen different ministries and discuss some

1397
01:39:01,805 --> 01:39:05,765
of those, those priorities that I had elaborated on at

1398
01:39:05,805 --> 01:39:09,040
the last meeting. So all in all. Excuse me, a

1399
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,720
good conference. Um, I would like to just build on,

1400
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,280
uh, some of the comments that, um, Mayor Harrison made

1401
01:39:15,621 --> 01:39:19,840
while discussing, uh, the, uh, the additional position and the

1402
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:24,240
building and planning department, Mayor Harrison had, uh, mentioned some

1403
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,120
of the feedback that he's received from developers and such

1404
01:39:27,221 --> 01:39:31,440
positive feedback in relation to, uh, to the, uh, services

1405
01:39:32,261 --> 01:39:36,480
that our chief building official, uh, Miss Gillin provides along

1406
01:39:36,501 --> 01:39:41,480
with her department members. Um, Ms. Skillen or Pam, I

1407
01:39:41,480 --> 01:39:43,760
guess if I may, uh, was, was probably one of

1408
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:49,600
the first management hires that, uh, that I had to

1409
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,680
do coming into this position. Um, I think, uh, I

1410
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,280
think the day that, uh, that, uh, that Council announced,

1411
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:01,680
uh, myself moving into the CAO position. Our chief building

1412
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:05,920
official of the day tendered resignation, uh, from a standpoint

1413
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:10,856
of retiring from, uh, from the position. And, uh, quite

1414
01:40:10,896 --> 01:40:14,136
frankly, um, I don't think there's being, I know there

1415
01:40:14,176 --> 01:40:18,616
hasn't been a regret in bringing PAM on board. Pam

1416
01:40:18,656 --> 01:40:21,236
spoke a bit about the, uh, the background that, uh,

1417
01:40:21,277 --> 01:40:23,416
that really, I think gives a good, a good base

1418
01:40:24,237 --> 01:40:27,396
to a building inspector or a chief building official. Uh,

1419
01:40:27,597 --> 01:40:30,296
PAM had that base and, uh, I think it was

1420
01:40:30,477 --> 01:40:35,976
Councillor Keevening maybe ask a question about development of that

1421
01:40:36,237 --> 01:40:41,176
position. And PAM is a living example of that. POMs

1422
01:40:41,176 --> 01:40:44,856
built herself into, uh, I think one of our region's

1423
01:40:44,896 --> 01:40:49,656
best chief building officials and Dryden is lucky, lucky to

1424
01:40:49,656 --> 01:40:53,096
have her. Um, and with the addition of, uh, Mr.

1425
01:40:53,277 --> 01:40:57,896
Bagshaw in the planner's seat, uh, we have an extremely

1426
01:40:58,397 --> 01:41:02,776
efficient and effective, uh, building and planning team, uh, at

1427
01:41:02,816 --> 01:41:05,736
this point, uh, supported by a strong by law enforcement

1428
01:41:05,917 --> 01:41:09,896
officer. So I just really want to give, uh, much

1429
01:41:10,157 --> 01:41:14,296
thanks and appreciation to the entire department. And, uh, the

1430
01:41:14,317 --> 01:41:18,216
strong focus, the strong customer focus, uh, that miss Skillland

1431
01:41:18,256 --> 01:41:23,216
has brought to the department. That's done so much, so

1432
01:41:23,216 --> 01:41:26,436
much to get us that, uh, that quality name, uh,

1433
01:41:26,637 --> 01:41:33,046
amongst the developers in our region. Thank you. Thank you.

1434
01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:37,759
Call on our Director of Finance Treasurer, Ms. Junkel. Well,

1435
01:41:37,759 --> 01:41:39,839
thank you. Uh, your worship. I have nothing at this

1436
01:41:39,839 --> 01:41:43,199
time. Thank you. I'll go to our clerk, Ms. Idler.

1437
01:41:44,025 --> 01:41:46,964
Thank you. And I will use some of the treasurer's

1438
01:41:47,004 --> 01:41:48,964
time because I'm going to ask everyone to bear with

1439
01:41:49,004 --> 01:41:52,404
me while I, um, speak a little longer than normal

1440
01:41:52,665 --> 01:41:57,483
at this point in the meeting. Because nominations for Council

1441
01:41:57,523 --> 01:42:00,283
and School Board Elections closed at 2 p. m. on

1442
01:42:00,304 --> 01:42:04,738
Friday. Those nominations have been certified. And I can advise

1443
01:42:05,079 --> 01:42:09,237
we'll be having elections for the following offices. Mayor, we

1444
01:42:09,237 --> 01:42:13,517
have three nominees with one to be elected. Council. There

1445
01:42:13,517 --> 01:42:17,277
are 12 nominees with six to be elected. Key waiting

1446
01:42:17,298 --> 01:42:21,597
Patricia District School Board trustee. We have three nominees and

1447
01:42:21,597 --> 01:42:26,957
one will be elected. Northwest Catholic district school board trustee.

1448
01:42:26,957 --> 01:42:31,106
We have three nominees with two to be elected. Locally,

1449
01:42:31,146 --> 01:42:33,826
there will be no election for the French separate school

1450
01:42:33,927 --> 01:42:37,186
board trustee as there was just one nominee for the

1451
01:42:37,287 --> 01:42:42,354
one position. And Michelin Lovnik has been acclaimed. And there

1452
01:42:42,394 --> 01:42:45,474
were no nominations received in the region for the French

1453
01:42:45,895 --> 01:42:51,098
Public School Board. Also on August the 14th, we received

1454
01:42:51,359 --> 01:42:55,098
the then - current voters list amendments to the list

1455
01:42:55,279 --> 01:42:57,818
can be made by members of the Public Beginning September

1456
01:42:58,159 --> 01:43:01,738
the 14th by completing a form at City Hall and

1457
01:43:01,738 --> 01:43:06,404
providing proof of identification and their address. And finally, as

1458
01:43:06,905 --> 01:43:09,844
six of the seven current members of Council are running

1459
01:43:09,884 --> 01:43:13,364
for re - election, we do not find ourselves in

1460
01:43:13,465 --> 01:43:16,964
a lame duct situation from now until voting day on

1461
01:43:17,225 --> 01:43:23,620
October the 26th. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. And I'll

1462
01:43:23,660 --> 01:43:27,463
call on our Director of Public Works, Mr. Olson. Thank

1463
01:43:27,503 --> 01:43:31,468
you through the chair. Nothing out at this time. And

1464
01:43:31,468 --> 01:43:36,412
now Director Community Services, Mr. Boyer. Thank you, Mayor. Just

1465
01:43:36,452 --> 01:43:38,572
a reminder to Council that the pool is down due

1466
01:43:38,612 --> 01:43:46,113
to a mechanical issues that happened last weekend. Um, due

1467
01:43:46,153 --> 01:43:48,673
to the limited availability of the parts, it looks like

1468
01:43:48,673 --> 01:43:51,793
it'll be down for at least until after the September

1469
01:43:52,054 --> 01:43:54,253
long weekend. So we do have the parts ordered, but

1470
01:43:54,253 --> 01:43:58,033
some of them are coming from, um, U. S. manufacturers,

1471
01:43:58,033 --> 01:44:00,433
because that's our only option. Um, so we got to

1472
01:44:00,433 --> 01:44:04,113
deal with some border stuff. So, um, yeah, we're hoping

1473
01:44:04,153 --> 01:44:06,593
that everything gets here in a timely manner. Uh, and

1474
01:44:06,694 --> 01:44:08,433
then once it does, it just takes us a few

1475
01:44:08,473 --> 01:44:11,073
days to rebalance and heat up the pool and get

1476
01:44:11,113 --> 01:44:15,153
that running. Uh, also just wanted to let Council know

1477
01:44:15,193 --> 01:44:18,433
that we do have, uh, the ISAs back in ISAN

1478
01:44:18,433 --> 01:44:21,754
operations went fairly well last week. Building ice. And I

1479
01:44:21,754 --> 01:44:23,194
want to thank the team for all their hard work

1480
01:44:24,095 --> 01:44:28,074
and dedication to building that, um, we have started to

1481
01:44:28,114 --> 01:44:30,234
hockey school as of this morning. So we got lots

1482
01:44:30,274 --> 01:44:32,874
of kids bustling around and getting note on the ice

1483
01:44:34,095 --> 01:44:37,812
and sort of another new hockey season. And ices and

1484
01:44:37,812 --> 01:44:41,918
I should say. Thanks. Thanks. That's all. Thank you. And

1485
01:44:41,918 --> 01:44:45,778
I'll knew we're going to hear from our fire chief

1486
01:44:45,818 --> 01:44:50,569
chief wood. Thank you worship. Uh, I do have a

1487
01:44:50,569 --> 01:44:52,329
couple of things. I just want to start by last

1488
01:44:52,329 --> 01:44:55,129
week, the restricted fire zone and municipal fire ban was

1489
01:44:55,169 --> 01:44:58,228
lifted. Um, throughout that, uh, we had most of the

1490
01:44:58,329 --> 01:45:00,308
summer as we were under that restriction. And I want

1491
01:45:00,308 --> 01:45:03,028
to thank our residents, uh, doing a great job following

1492
01:45:03,028 --> 01:45:05,348
those restrictions. I believe we only had one burn complaint

1493
01:45:06,089 --> 01:45:08,468
and so our residents did a great job helping protect

1494
01:45:08,489 --> 01:45:11,471
our community. I want to congratulate all members of the

1495
01:45:11,492 --> 01:45:15,111
Dryden Fire Service for achieving surface water rescue certification. We

1496
01:45:15,111 --> 01:45:18,243
spent, uh, five and ten days in the water. And,

1497
01:45:18,243 --> 01:45:20,963
uh, we're well ahead of our deadline of 2028 and

1498
01:45:21,003 --> 01:45:24,083
achieving this. So, uh, for surface, water and ice rescue.

1499
01:45:24,741 --> 01:45:26,720
Uh, we've done a lot of work this year and

1500
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,460
we're in a really good shape. And then lastly, I

1501
01:45:29,500 --> 01:45:31,700
want to talk about something new. We, we went after,

1502
01:45:31,700 --> 01:45:34,420
uh, Council Retardo food emotioned early in the term for

1503
01:45:34,460 --> 01:45:38,806
us to achieve superior tanker accreditation. And we, we went

1504
01:45:38,827 --> 01:45:41,606
after that and trained for it over about two months.

1505
01:45:42,197 --> 01:45:44,816
And on August the 8th, we achieved that accreditation where

1506
01:45:44,816 --> 01:45:47,056
the first one's a Northwestern Ontario. The first fire department

1507
01:45:47,077 --> 01:45:50,061
in Northwestern Ontario to achieve that. And what that means

1508
01:45:50,061 --> 01:45:52,461
for our residence is if you're within eight kilometers of

1509
01:45:52,562 --> 01:45:56,461
our hull too and five kilometers of a fire hydrant,

1510
01:45:56,461 --> 01:45:58,861
you will get the same insurance rating as if you

1511
01:45:58,882 --> 01:46:01,667
were protected by hydrants the same in the city. Stay

1512
01:46:01,667 --> 01:46:04,547
tuned to the website. We will update those certificates and

1513
01:46:04,568 --> 01:46:07,427
the dwelling protection map as the fire underwriters hasn't updated.

1514
01:46:08,354 --> 01:46:10,173
And that can be shared. We've already shared it with

1515
01:46:10,213 --> 01:46:13,453
our insurance companies. So that should, uh, get our citizens

1516
01:46:13,474 --> 01:46:15,453
a little bit better of insurance relief for some of

1517
01:46:15,453 --> 01:46:18,443
our citizens. As well as improve our fire protection rating,

1518
01:46:18,443 --> 01:46:21,133
which is really important. That's all from your worship. Thank

1519
01:46:21,133 --> 01:46:27,100
you. Great. Thank you. And congratulations. Hey, when I'll go

1520
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:29,660
to Council Announcements, uh, did want to speak a little

1521
01:46:29,660 --> 01:46:33,420
bit about our trip to Amo and Ottawa or annual

1522
01:46:33,441 --> 01:46:36,300
trips to the conference down there with, uh, this time

1523
01:46:36,321 --> 01:46:40,810
with, uh, Mr. Nesbitt and Councillor Price. We really had

1524
01:46:40,991 --> 01:46:43,970
three, three issues or three areas that we want to

1525
01:46:43,970 --> 01:46:47,050
talk to. The first one was, uh, with the Minister

1526
01:46:47,050 --> 01:46:50,650
of Natural Resources. It was in, I guess the spring

1527
01:46:50,690 --> 01:46:56,330
of 2023 that the then, uh, minister Graydon Smith agreed

1528
01:46:56,330 --> 01:46:59,130
to surplus the Aminar Land base, which is what we

1529
01:46:59,130 --> 01:47:02,410
talked about tonight, the Van Horn Landing. So in the,

1530
01:47:02,410 --> 01:47:05,210
in a phased in portion, because we knew that the

1531
01:47:05,231 --> 01:47:08,250
half of it was basically vacant. So and actually already

1532
01:47:08,250 --> 01:47:12,010
put a fence up in between the second half was,

1533
01:47:12,010 --> 01:47:15,530
uh, buildings on it. We're mainly used for storing outdoor

1534
01:47:15,570 --> 01:47:20,410
equipment. So being a former mayor, uh, Mr. Graydon Smith

1535
01:47:20,751 --> 01:47:25,450
agreed to phase that out that really, that whole area.

1536
01:47:25,450 --> 01:47:28,090
So if the housing needs that are important or dried

1537
01:47:28,130 --> 01:47:32,090
and the little thrust from the province to get housing

1538
01:47:32,271 --> 01:47:37,750
into Ontario, um, he agreed to that. The surplusing, uh,

1539
01:47:38,191 --> 01:47:40,810
the first phase one, the empty 10 acres was surplus

1540
01:47:40,911 --> 01:47:43,930
immediately. And we were now realising it's quite a long

1541
01:47:43,930 --> 01:47:48,010
process. That's going through every or every department in the

1542
01:47:48,050 --> 01:47:50,170
province to see if they want it. And then it

1543
01:47:50,170 --> 01:47:54,010
comes closely to, uh, has to go through other consultation

1544
01:47:54,031 --> 01:47:58,677
period. We're hopefully we're near the end of that. That'll

1545
01:47:58,717 --> 01:48:01,003
soon be made available. But we don't have a date

1546
01:48:01,043 --> 01:48:03,883
on that. Just want to give an update. But we,

1547
01:48:03,883 --> 01:48:06,443
uh, we worked, uh, we talked a lot about the

1548
01:48:06,784 --> 01:48:09,163
second phase, which is the waterfront with the buildings on

1549
01:48:09,163 --> 01:48:12,443
it. And they agreed to try to expediate that. They

1550
01:48:12,483 --> 01:48:15,783
really need to find another location for that equipment. And

1551
01:48:15,783 --> 01:48:19,403
so they're working with the ministry of infrastructure to find,

1552
01:48:19,403 --> 01:48:22,363
uh, location and to build some building. So that will

1553
01:48:22,403 --> 01:48:25,163
take a bit more time, but, uh, we've really asked

1554
01:48:25,203 --> 01:48:29,723
them to speed as much as possible. Still follow the

1555
01:48:29,723 --> 01:48:32,603
policy and procedures, but ensure that, uh, that becomes available.

1556
01:48:34,373 --> 01:48:37,852
Really the second discussion we had was with the, uh,

1557
01:48:38,293 --> 01:48:41,872
parliamentary assistant for MTO. And they're really talking about the

1558
01:48:41,912 --> 01:48:45,072
scheduled air passenger service. And we know we lost that

1559
01:48:45,173 --> 01:48:48,752
a few years ago and our, our neighbours, can aura.

1560
01:48:48,752 --> 01:48:52,352
And Fort have been able to establish it. We probably

1561
01:48:52,373 --> 01:48:54,352
could have too, but we don't want to really, we

1562
01:48:54,392 --> 01:48:57,632
won't have burden our taxpayers by putting a backstop in

1563
01:48:57,632 --> 01:49:01,392
to make this profitable. Really asking for some partnership with

1564
01:49:01,573 --> 01:49:04,912
the province in the Fed to make this really an

1565
01:49:04,933 --> 01:49:09,552
economically viable air passenger service. So that it would be

1566
01:49:09,653 --> 01:49:13,786
attractive for many people to fly. Uh, we feel that

1567
01:49:14,207 --> 01:49:18,426
the taxpayers shouldn't backstab a company coming in for a

1568
01:49:18,466 --> 01:49:20,666
pilot project to make them whole as they build up

1569
01:49:20,847 --> 01:49:24,266
the ridership. That the economic development that's happening in our

1570
01:49:24,306 --> 01:49:29,466
area with a mini activity. And Dryden would not be

1571
01:49:29,506 --> 01:49:32,026
the only community using this airport that's important that we

1572
01:49:32,047 --> 01:49:34,986
find partners. So the bad news is they don't have

1573
01:49:35,026 --> 01:49:38,506
a funding stream that can just tap into, uh, but

1574
01:49:38,506 --> 01:49:41,306
we're looking at it. They're looking at options and we're

1575
01:49:41,346 --> 01:49:45,473
continuing meeting with them. Uh, lastly, we met with the

1576
01:49:45,494 --> 01:49:49,793
ministry of Finance, Missel Affairs and Housing, Ministry of Northern

1577
01:49:50,134 --> 01:49:53,873
Economic Development and Growth and Administrative Engine Mind all around

1578
01:49:53,913 --> 01:49:58,713
the concept of Dryden is like a regional hub, a

1579
01:49:58,713 --> 01:50:02,193
service hub to the north. And we're kind of leading

1580
01:50:02,374 --> 01:50:06,033
this charge for about, 13 to 15 communities across the

1581
01:50:06,294 --> 01:50:11,790
north. That we provide services, community services to a broader

1582
01:50:12,851 --> 01:50:17,470
group than just ourselves. Um, but it's our taxpayers are

1583
01:50:17,470 --> 01:50:20,762
facing that burden. As Ontario is looking to the north

1584
01:50:21,103 --> 01:50:23,802
to drive the economy in the south as well through

1585
01:50:24,303 --> 01:50:29,722
mining and energy projects, we're asking the government, like you

1586
01:50:29,762 --> 01:50:34,422
are collecting taxes from these other economic development areas. But

1587
01:50:34,543 --> 01:50:38,442
they're outside or municipal boundaries. Um, we like to be

1588
01:50:38,623 --> 01:50:43,002
recognised that we are, we're servicing there's without our communities

1589
01:50:43,023 --> 01:50:46,602
across the North servicing these that we, they wouldn't be

1590
01:50:46,623 --> 01:50:51,415
successful. So we're having that conversation, uh, making it aware

1591
01:50:51,455 --> 01:50:56,135
that we think the whole provincial municipal partnership needs a

1592
01:50:56,156 --> 01:51:01,815
bit of Twinkie for a communities like Dryden. Um, I

1593
01:51:01,855 --> 01:51:05,335
know there's, there's been talk about us trying to ask

1594
01:51:05,756 --> 01:51:09,655
the annexed areas or increased taxes out in the unorganized.

1595
01:51:09,676 --> 01:51:12,215
We have, we're adamantly opposed to that. We made that

1596
01:51:12,255 --> 01:51:15,415
clear to the ministry. But we're thinking that when we

1597
01:51:15,415 --> 01:51:17,415
look at the economic growth in the North and the

1598
01:51:17,455 --> 01:51:21,255
small size of municipalities that are supporting that growth and

1599
01:51:21,255 --> 01:51:23,975
the income that the parental government is receiving from some

1600
01:51:24,015 --> 01:51:27,735
of these outer areas, especially the economic growth in crown

1601
01:51:27,756 --> 01:51:31,975
land, that they need to support our communities to make

1602
01:51:32,636 --> 01:51:37,923
it economically feasible for our taxpayers. And lastly, I did

1603
01:51:38,344 --> 01:51:42,803
have a private conversation with, uh, Mr. Calandrus, Minister of

1604
01:51:42,843 --> 01:51:47,363
Energy. I've been trying to support, uh, Michael Williams, who's

1605
01:51:47,363 --> 01:51:50,403
the Ground Father, the two children that ground in our

1606
01:51:50,403 --> 01:51:53,632
community. What we as a group have been trying to

1607
01:51:53,672 --> 01:51:58,572
do is get, uh, mandatory streaming lessons across Ontario. And

1608
01:51:58,572 --> 01:52:00,832
I really want to thank Chief Wood. He was one

1609
01:52:00,832 --> 01:52:03,392
of the leaders in bringing it to Dryden. So we

1610
01:52:03,392 --> 01:52:05,472
have in - house training at our schools as well

1611
01:52:05,472 --> 01:52:08,352
as the swim to survive training or pool, which happened

1612
01:52:08,773 --> 01:52:11,072
this spring. I think it was grade threes that were

1613
01:52:11,112 --> 01:52:14,992
all taken from the public school system. Learn it when

1614
01:52:14,992 --> 01:52:17,232
they fall off a dock, how to get back to

1615
01:52:17,333 --> 01:52:20,992
dreadwater and to swim 50 metres. Fantastic. Like we're, we're

1616
01:52:21,013 --> 01:52:23,952
in good shape. But we're really asking that the province

1617
01:52:24,053 --> 01:52:27,392
take this on. And so only conversation, we originally asking

1618
01:52:27,493 --> 01:52:31,632
for Instagram lessons as well as in class and talking

1619
01:52:31,672 --> 01:52:36,912
to the grandfather Michael Williams. We realise that now and

1620
01:52:37,013 --> 01:52:40,432
Mr. Conlandra agrees. It's very difficult to mandate in pool

1621
01:52:40,472 --> 01:52:43,152
lessons all across Interior because some school boards just not

1622
01:52:43,152 --> 01:52:48,192
have, um, access to pools. So our ask is now

1623
01:52:48,213 --> 01:52:50,432
to move off that and to make it make sure

1624
01:52:50,432 --> 01:52:56,352
that it's mandatory that each class gets the, um, three

1625
01:52:56,392 --> 01:53:04,344
40 minute in - class sessions on swim safety. Because

1626
01:53:04,344 --> 01:53:09,684
one of the things that's important is just kids, you

1627
01:53:09,684 --> 01:53:11,064
know, when they come to a doc, some of them

1628
01:53:11,064 --> 01:53:12,664
don't know how to swim or not used to water.

1629
01:53:12,664 --> 01:53:16,568
We found that like. The attraction of water is great.

1630
01:53:16,568 --> 01:53:19,528
And if they fall off the dock, they have no

1631
01:53:19,549 --> 01:53:21,928
chance of really getting back on. So just the safety

1632
01:53:22,429 --> 01:53:25,128
to prevent them, I know the danger of being by

1633
01:53:25,168 --> 01:53:29,113
water. And also really the danger of, if someone falls

1634
01:53:29,134 --> 01:53:31,593
in and you don't know how to swim, um, and

1635
01:53:31,614 --> 01:53:37,273
you go in and after rescue them, So that just

1636
01:53:37,294 --> 01:53:40,873
that education and knowledge, we think is a very important.

1637
01:53:41,413 --> 01:53:45,312
So we're continuing to ask Administrative education to make this

1638
01:53:45,733 --> 01:53:48,912
mandatory. We've revised our requests and we're very hopeful that

1639
01:53:49,573 --> 01:53:53,712
the province will hear our concerns and make this mandatory

1640
01:53:53,893 --> 01:53:56,978
cross, Ontario. So that was some of the work that

1641
01:53:56,978 --> 01:54:00,898
we've done. And we're pleased to represent our city there.

1642
01:54:02,978 --> 01:54:05,437
A very long winded today. All right. Let's go around

1643
01:54:05,477 --> 01:54:09,852
the table. Let's start with Councillor Latham. I have nothing

1644
01:54:10,193 --> 01:54:15,108
your worship. Councillor Keevening. Uh, thank you. I just want

1645
01:54:15,108 --> 01:54:18,548
to let the community know that on September 12th, there

1646
01:54:18,548 --> 01:54:21,908
is a beauty mingle at shoppers drug mart to support

1647
01:54:22,329 --> 01:54:26,148
Hashzaki house. So you can make an appointment, um, and

1648
01:54:26,249 --> 01:54:29,108
all of the proceeds raised are going into our own

1649
01:54:29,209 --> 01:54:32,427
community. Thank you. Thank you. Go online up to Councillor

1650
01:54:32,448 --> 01:54:38,095
Noel. Thank you, Mayor Harrison. I just wanted to command

1651
01:54:38,516 --> 01:54:44,160
our first responders for the recent. Service call at our

1652
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,600
local fair at Behooves Me that young people don't get

1653
01:54:47,701 --> 01:54:49,280
a kick out of what we used to, which would

1654
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,440
be jump in the fence to get in with OPing.

1655
01:54:52,076 --> 01:54:54,855
Or maybe getting into the beer gardens before you were

1656
01:54:54,876 --> 01:54:58,215
19 back in the day. But, uh, it was a

1657
01:54:58,316 --> 01:55:01,095
heck of an effort by our dried and fire ambulance

1658
01:55:01,116 --> 01:55:03,975
and OPP and the public were there. So, uh, I

1659
01:55:03,975 --> 01:55:07,255
think it's mentioned that, uh, they did a good job

1660
01:55:07,756 --> 01:55:12,535
and difficult circumstances and something that, uh, nobody really expected,

1661
01:55:12,535 --> 01:55:15,575
even though, as I understand it, the same thing happened,

1662
01:55:15,575 --> 01:55:18,295
uh, at the CLE and Thunder Bay. So kudos to

1663
01:55:18,335 --> 01:55:22,607
everybody involved. Thank you for your service. That's it. All

1664
01:55:22,607 --> 01:55:24,447
right. Thank you. I'm going to go to Councilman Kinnan.

1665
01:55:25,866 --> 01:55:34,078
I have nothing you worship. Councillor Tardif. Nothing. Councillor Price.

1666
01:55:35,731 --> 01:55:39,150
Yes, thank you through the chair. And I agree with

1667
01:55:39,651 --> 01:55:44,110
Council Noel. I was at the fair at the time.

1668
01:55:44,110 --> 01:55:48,830
And the quality of service that was given, um, was

1669
01:55:48,931 --> 01:55:53,950
exceptional. And, um, keeping the fear factor down and keeping

1670
01:55:53,971 --> 01:56:01,390
people safe, um, was also exceptional by the fair providers,

1671
01:56:01,390 --> 01:56:05,430
I would say. It was a outside of that. It

1672
01:56:05,491 --> 01:56:08,510
was a great weekend to be at the Fair for

1673
01:56:08,691 --> 01:56:12,750
Families to enjoy the rides and the food and the

1674
01:56:12,851 --> 01:56:15,870
entertainment and everything that went on. And it shows that

1675
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:20,190
we have a great community outside of that one, one,

1676
01:56:20,190 --> 01:56:25,390
um, event that up. And unfortunately. So kudos to the

1677
01:56:25,571 --> 01:56:27,790
fair organisers. I know it's a lot of work for

1678
01:56:27,790 --> 01:56:31,070
them. Um, I've, I've seen them there for probably 12

1679
01:56:31,110 --> 01:56:34,030
hours a day as I was there as well. And,

1680
01:56:34,030 --> 01:56:36,910
uh, so yeah, kudos out to them for continuing to

1681
01:56:37,091 --> 01:56:40,590
bring the fall fare in and expanding it as they

1682
01:56:40,611 --> 01:56:43,630
have with their new barn and for all of the

1683
01:56:43,811 --> 01:56:46,330
4H people that were involved in it. It was, um,

1684
01:56:46,451 --> 01:56:50,532
it was a great time. So, uh, thank you. All

1685
01:56:50,532 --> 01:56:54,372
right. Thank you. And we'll go to our confirmatory bylaw.

1686
01:56:57,605 --> 01:57:02,064
In a seconder. Council evening and a second, Councillor Noel,

1687
01:57:02,064 --> 01:57:05,984
thank you. Move by Councillor Keening, seconded by Councillor Noel,

1688
01:57:05,984 --> 01:57:08,784
the By - Law 2026 - 61 being a bylaw

1689
01:57:08,805 --> 01:57:13,245
to confirm the proceedings of Council be adopted. Call a

1690
01:57:13,245 --> 01:57:19,172
question. I'll in favor. Carried. Thank you. Now we're at

1691
01:57:19,212 --> 01:57:20,932
the time of German. Can I have a mover in

1692
01:57:20,932 --> 01:57:27,603
a seconder? Councillor Keeney Moose. Second councillor price. By Councillor

1693
01:57:27,624 --> 01:57:30,243
Covening, seconded by Councillor Prince. It is meeting be declared

1694
01:57:30,424 --> 01:57:37,287
adjourned. Long favor. Gary, thank you. Thanks everyone for participation.

1695
01:57:38,008 --> 01:57:38,467
Good night.