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Hello counselor johnson just want to confirm you can hear

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>> yes. I can loud and clear.

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>> thank you.

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>> all right. Good evening, everyone. We will open

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with the finance committee meeting. Good evening. Begin

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with tourism and tax overview and I hope we get a better

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understanding how those revenues work and the rule on the

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financial plan and pivot into an update request the 2027

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budget including work underway to evaluate the expenses

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that shape the budget and dates to know. September 10th

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we have an excellent presentation and then immediately at

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9 o'clock meet and that deck for a budget retreat. And

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with that, turn it over to the finance director salinas.

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thank you. Thank you for being here.

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>> this is I believe this we figured out in finance,

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and I'm usually accompanied by a colleague, but as the

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committee chair mentioned today we will cover tourism and

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taxes. That is an important part of our budget, budget

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and not part of the general fund, but we want to cover a

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good overview of the tourism tax. And then I will get to

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a budget update as the next step for the general budget.

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and then as always time at the end for questions thank

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you, you should have a presentation in front of you with a

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slide, I'll note your questions for that. And so I'm

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going to begin with the overview first of tourism and

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taxes and start getting into the sources and a little bit

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of details, a breakdown how we collect them and the

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numbers we're selecting the percentages in dollars and the

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research. I broke this down into smarter sections they are

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complex and almost 9 months now. That is something I am

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learning the nuances as much as I can if I can share a

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request if we can't get to it today, I hope the

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conversation around this, but that on that is really

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important. So hopefully, at the end, you're not only

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enlightened by tourism and taxes and give you a little bit

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of understanding.

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>> so I'm to define what are the tourism taxes. And

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there are two components that we collect takes from the

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customers and from the sales. There is lodging and then

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food and beverages. And so I want to, want to say tourism

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and taxes are not sales tax excepting for one smaller

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component generally paying tax on not on lodging and

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beverages not tourism taxes.

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>> so how we collect those. Who gives us permission

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and what do we collect in taxes?

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>> so we have authority under the city through

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charter code ordinances, as well as, laws and statutes

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into the state of minnesota allowing us to collect. Okay.

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>> we're going to get into the details. So what do

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we collect?

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>> on the lodging side, there are two different

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taxes we collect on hotels. We collect the 3 percent

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motels and hotels excise tax, tax a regular tax in the

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city of duluth that are taxable of one and a half percent.

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when I pay sales tax that one percent is not exactly with

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the general fund that is considered a tourism tax on the

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side. On hotels over thirty units, we collect an

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additional 2.5 percent and an establishment has more than

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30 units, an additional 30 percent. I'll get into the

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layering starts with the bigger picture into the details.

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for food and beverages, we collect 2.25 percent that is on

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top of the sales tax. Before we move on, I want to get

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into the details and a brief overview on what we can,

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steps on specifics on the lodging. I'm not going to read

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them all, but note you'll see those on the food and

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beverages is the discretion portion. There is very

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specific lodges around what we can spend on the lodging

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side that are discretionary. When we look at the food and

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beverages, we don't have that but on items what we can

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spend on within the family corridor, etc. So the budget

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comes every year, we look at it and we know what we can

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spend and looking to figure out how much. So this graph

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shows we, we selected for the last 4 increases or years

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from 2022 to 2025 and have the 2027 projected on 2025.

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there was a cap in the previous years that is happening

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one time and it really capped where we've been the last

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3 years about 14 point 8 million dollars with that. And

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looking at that added 2022 averaging 15.6.

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>> I think another thing to note, we lowered the

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projection for 2026 to buy the hotel and hotels occupancy

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rates we're down a little bit. So this is how we collect

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them and what this 14 point 6 budget looked like.

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>> where are they coming from?

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>> so wanted to show you a graph that breakdown. So

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for food and beverages that is 2.25 percent we're

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collecting. With all the food and beverages it is

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$6.8 million and 46 percent of total coming from that.

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26 percent from the 3 percent hotel and motel and the one

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percent sales tax. Again, that piece is on the quantity

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of units. This final piece 2 point 8 million dollars that

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is for the establishment over 30 units. This is probably

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something that might be a self comparison want to put it

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out here. I think that any questions about what the total

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is this is only for each of the taxes for the hotels and

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less than 30 units. So the 8.75 is the city of duluth city

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tax that is imposed. Again, one percent of which is 75

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the tourism tax. But then we have adding the 3 percent to

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the purchase of lodging for one night pay 11.75 on all

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units. But if we have one more than thirty percent an

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additional percent. Okay.

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>> getting a little bit deeper a little bit into the

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future.

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>> I have a handout at the end that summarizes all of

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that I want to hand that out so you will look through it

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and and makes sense until all the layers are added on, but

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not part of that presentation. If you see a table that

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has all this words and numbers but altogether.

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>> so the 3 percent hotel and motel tax. This was

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the first ordinance was enacted in 1969. An update for

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this the first one, was in 1959. And the way that reads

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on the restrictions this is really important for you all

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to understand where we can spend the money the hotel and

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motel tax. We can see the first 5 percent goes to the

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general fund for for basically administering tourism taxes

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and then the rest of this is divvied up. 95 percent is

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left divvied and 65 percent the remaining is for the desk.

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so supporting maintenance of the arena and the addition

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for the city of duluth and the other 35 percent before

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advertising and promotions for the city of duluth, tourism

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convention centers that the contract in the city of

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duluth. Not the discretionary, part the contractual part

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where they operate. And then the graph shows the dollars

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over the years. I really wanted to highlight the

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restrictions for each of the components. The one percent

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sales tax is what we consider the discretionary or one of

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the discretionary. This is to be used to pay for

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activities related to tourism, anything that promotes

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tourism. This is important to highlight that the actual

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language we look at the ordinances or the resolutions for

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the statutes, they highlight the desk and spirit mountain

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that is discretionary. But those who the cities are

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mentioned in the language. And we'll see it again in the

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next one.

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>> for the over 30 units, one and a half percent

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hotels and motel tax is broken down and you can see a one

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percent, another one percent in the math. We get to the

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total of 2 and a half so with one percent is again, a

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discretionary piece similar to the one in the sales tax

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and the language included the desk and spirit mountain

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recreation area. And then the one percent positive

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capital improvement and and half percent, which some of

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you see half-and-half in the food and beverages. Which

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was, that was an actual for the corridor, as well as,

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athletic venues. This will be a quick one about tourism.

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>> so food and beverages. Again, the same graph

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shows sales tax and then we'll get paid on top of of

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tourism tax. Want to show you the breakdown the sales tax

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and nothing that is for food and beverage, the additional

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2.25. What are the restrictions on the two? This one on

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the food and beverages, first ordinance the original was

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enacted in 1977. And if I looking at for history I'm

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happy to take questions off-line if you wanted to

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understand what is happening with that. But these have the

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restrictions. Again, the 2 quarter by that the one

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percent it's for facilities that are basically related to

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the city. The facilities are or agencies where we run

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them or are run by a governing body that we appoint those

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are for the facilities like the zoo. We have some of the

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facilities and have that. Then have .75 percent of that

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too, and a quarter for the arena. And this is what I talk

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about on the previous slides, it is for the corridor and

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the athletic venues. I know that is a lot of information,

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but have a few slides to get through. That is putting it

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altogether multiple categories that we identified as where

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we can plan. So I think here again, not going to reading

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through all of them, but ones I want to point out the

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discretionary, the discretionary budget is pretty big when

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you look at the whole thing. There we have debt and

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obligations that the city has priorities we have to borrow

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into discretionary. So the discretionary, a discretionary

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gives you, you an example so advertising and projection we

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assume have $15 million. And in tourism taxes of which

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maybe 2 and a half are allocated approximately 9 percent

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of advertising and promotion. $1.4 million for

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advertising and promotion. You know the concept is one .8

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and with the contract that is 6 last year and so that is

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already to 2.4 that we have to borrow from the

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discretionary funds. So the discretionary pot isn't what

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we had left over for 2026, was left over for visitors.

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that looks hefty and supplements from the other

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obligations for debt and for events that we do as the

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city. So we are utilizing some of that for our part of the

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other restricted spending. We use all the restricted

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spending first with that pulled from that bucket.

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>> what are the next steps for tourism tax and what

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have we've done so far? What we've done for july and

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august is we reviewed historic data and updating the

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review. Up into recently, have to adjust for july. And

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then we also this is helping us to determine what the

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budget, the total dollars will look like. And then we

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determined the cash reserves available from the full year

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what does this mean? We don't know what that tourism tax

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looked like we go back to 2025 what is left over and a one

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year lag in terms of what the bucket looked like. We have

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been working on the drafts. And one iteration a review

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with the administrative. And again, we readjusted the

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revenues so we'll do one more. And then we will come up

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with what we bring to council will happen in october and

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review and approve the resolution. And then also have

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identified at this time for the funds for duluth and begin

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the process so -

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>> so, now I'll get to the budget update and the

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next steps what we're doing with that.

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>> this is the much shorter slide than the tourism

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and tax, but gives us a really good idea where we're at.

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so we've been talking about the general fund budget over

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the finance committee meeting. And we have continued and

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finalized and financials listings. This, of course, data,

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you know, getting new information want to make sure we

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have the most updated and using realistic and appropriate

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revenue assumptions so we're not over shooting or under

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shooting based on the historical information and any

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indicators will tell us otherwise. And we explored the

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opportunity to allot any unused funds that we have from

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the previous years that are no longer being utilized for

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the services. Stuff we did think on the revenue side on

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the express so we'll have no reductions for city services.

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and we are again continuing to look at the expenditures

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and look at them up to september 10th, maybe a week before

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that. And if we are using again historic averages not

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worst case scenario. So what does that mean? It is

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important for potentially budgeting for the worst-case all

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the time so that if we have issues with the budget, we

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wanted to make sure that is tightened up. And then the

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payroll budget what we did there a historical vacancy and

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sometimes were inflated at the time when someone starts

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the position there are basic savings to make sure we use

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an approach and recognized those tightened up, up the

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budget. So as financial committee chair randorf mentioned,

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the budget presentation that is happening on

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september 10th. And then have the budget retreat, the next

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day we will have all the departments presenting budget mr.

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harold is putting together a template for each of the

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departments so making sure everyone is following what

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you'll be looking at and the public is looking at is

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consistent and we're able to understand apples to apples

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even though we know all departments do a different

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presentation in terms of the highlights. And on monday

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september 4, the resolution prepared and understand that

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if anything is tabled so not vote until the 28; is that

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>> so, now is the fun part, your questions.

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>> thank you, director salinas.

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>> open up for counselor questions the first

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councilor in the queue is councilor tomanek.

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>> thank you, chair randorf. Are they paying into the

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vacation unit fund?

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>> well the people that or I want to make sure we

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clarify the consumer is paying. But, yes. And they pay

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the same percentage for the less than 30 units.

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>> what is the justification for over thirty and

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less than thirty?

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>> corporate is the justification.

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>> this is something that happened before my time.

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I believe that was, I don't want to say what year, but the

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justification at that time was because of moving. And I

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think they believe they'll not get that from the tourism

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tax as they go to fruition. There was an understanding

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from council. In fact at the time that makes for that so

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the body is the one who determined that.

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>> thank you.

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>> uh-huh.

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>> thank you councilor tomanek. Next it is councilor

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clanaugh.

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>> thank you, chair randorf. The 29 this thing is a

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mom and pop. I'm curious that was not - what would be the

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tax collected for not having this exemption?

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>> councilor clanaugh, I don't have that information

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not something we looked at. And this is currently in the

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- occurring. We can go certainly take a look at that.

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>> thank you councilor clanaugh. Next in the queue

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is councilor durrwachter.

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>> thank you, chair randorf for the presentation. My

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question is I'm wondering if you can clarify a little bit

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more for me why the desk and spirit mountain fund is also

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called discretionary? A lot is actually discretionary.

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>> if I can go back to the actual slide. The way the

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language is written for any company or anyone that is

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promoting tourism and identifies the deck and spirit

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mountain. So if you can find the language for that one.

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>> that was helpful. Thank you.

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>> thank you.

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>> councilor durrwachter.

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>> thank you, councilor durrwachter.

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>> next in the queue is councilor tomanek.

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>> thank you, chair randorf. Will you tell us how

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much the is percentage that will go to the deck for the

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10 years?

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>> councilor tomanek. I don't have the exact number

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from that, but the amount of the funds that year is that

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the amount is over. That money gets added and can change,

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but I'll get that exact for you.

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>> you said the readjust is in july in round

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numbers. How much that will be?

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>> I don't have that exact figure was for the one

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month.

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>> great. Thank you.

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>> thank you councilor tomanek. And next is councilor

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clanaugh.

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>> thank you, chair randorf. And director it is

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referenced for the sales tax and some of that goes for

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tourism. I am curious do we have a standard definition

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what it means?

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>> do we have a consensus with no equity and details?

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>> and historically have not but currently on a

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policy to make sure we have that and what you're speaking

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of to make sure that is what we're going forward have the

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definitions correct. And everyone understand how that is

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allocated for what the restrictions are and the

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definition.

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>> thank you. And you're welcome. Thank you.

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councilor clanaugh next in the queue is councilor

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durrwachter.

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>> thank you, chair randorf.

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>> and director salinas, give us a simple list of as

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one of the slides mentioned, there are areas that had

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reductions for the core city services. Any sort of list

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of what those reductions would be or will you be

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presenting on the retreat?

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>> we'll be, councilor durrwachter. Yes. That

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information will be presented.

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>> thank you. Councilor durrwachter next.

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>> thank you, chair randorf. Two quick questions.

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you said this was to 2025, was the bumper. And then the

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other question if we had had changes to the future like

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the money needs to go in other places requires a statute

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to change that language or half and half before we change

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the ordinances?

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>> can you be more specific, councilor durrwachter

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on the second part?

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>> yeah. So after all I said all of the restricted or

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rule understates that are the charters probably not a lot

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of changes. I'll say you're looking at something and want

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to say well the definitions didn't we want more? That has

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to go through the state first; right? To get permission

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under the state level before we make changes within our

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ordinance?

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>> yes. That's correct.

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>> thank you, thank you. As far as the bench, that

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was the correction related to 2 years for reports not been

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properly documented and so they have 4 corrections that is

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what that is for?

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>> haven't in 2026 --

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(laughter).

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>> just checking.

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>> thank you, councilor durrwachter. And councilor

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clanaugh.

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>> director salinas on slide 20, talked about in

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terms of payroll vacancies. We know the payroll benefits

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are a chunk of the budget and the lions share, but

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operational costs. I'm thinking of so - the sustainability

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position has been vacant for a long time. So there was

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savings in terms of of payroll and also operational costs.

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and so then the programming sort of isn't advanced. Are

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there mechanisms in our budgeting to make up for

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situations like that to get a program that was

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understaffed and now back to where it is meant to be?

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>> councilor clanaugh, the vacancy savings are not

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what we planned for. The vacancies that is just the --

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how the operations work so the sustained position, I think

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I'll defer to the administrator for that.

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>> thank you.

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>> there we go. Thank you for that question.

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>> regarding the sustainability officers, the duty,

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yes. That position has a vacancy. It was serving that but

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to keep the sustainability work going and where there are

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operational savings, there is potentially. But within the

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things I'll say in sustainability, we try to work that

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into the budget in all departments we look to do projects

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and the departments have work that make them work smarter

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and is a better part of the department's budget.

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>> not just a sustainability budget.

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>> sure, thank you.

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>> thank you, councilor clanaugh. Any further

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questions from the councilors?

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>> last call for questions. And seeing none, ask my

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last question. And director and the councilors we walk

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away with one or two things to think of different ways

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before the 2027 -- before the next presentation and the

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retreat is there. Anything in the process you want to

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figure out differently or made aware of

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councilor randorf? I don't know how to speak to that.

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>> I think the one thing I want to say we've been

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very conscience. Before when we were looking at the

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vacancies, we're not doing this doing away with the

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points. I will come in with the knowledge. We have done

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a thorough job and very precise when we go through this

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process.

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>> and all of us have well been missing -- I think

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that is going to be maybe reflected and also not been part

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of the retreat before I think that may, I might have

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additional information after this one.

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>> so thank you.

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>> and thank you so much for the presentation. We

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can call you anytime we have finance or budget questions.

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but thanks for tonight. And councilors we will close the

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finance meeting and come back for the regular council

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meeting. Thank you.

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[meeting adjourned]

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>> I'd like to welcome everyone to the city council

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meeting. Clerk call the roll.

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>> thank you.

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>> thank you, president nephew.

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>> councilor clanaugh.

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>> councilor desotelle here.

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>> councilor durrwachter here.

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>> counselor forsman here.

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>> vice president kennedy.

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>> president nephew and councilor johnson here.

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>> stand for the pledge

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of

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america and to the republic for which it stands, one

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nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> I'd like to welcome you to the city of olathe,

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city council regular meeting this evening at 7:00pm.,

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tuesday, august 30, 2025. Tonight's council will conduct

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the official business and an opportunity for public

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comment. Before we move on if you wish to speak, sign up

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with the clerk. We have two public comments, public

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comment periods. The first is agenda items and the second

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for non-agenda items. And the city council meeting will

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be conducted in the importance -- and rules of order.

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those rules are established to make sure our meetings are

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fair, efficient and in order for a process for decision

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making. If I signed you up, you have 3 minutes to speak,

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there is a timer on the lectern to remind you. Please

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finish your comments within 3 minutes and first item move

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on to the minutes.

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>> approval of the august 10, 2026, city of duluth,

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city council meeting minutes. Anyone have any questions on

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the minutes.

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>> seeing none, we'll move on to roll call vote from

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the administration.

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>> administrator.

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>> president nephew, no reports from the

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administration.

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>> all right. Then have a public hearing. Tonight a

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public hearing for appeals on ordinance for --

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>> public hearing(s)/appeals - an ordinance amending

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chapter ii,section 4, of the duluth home rule charter,

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1912. I will open up the public hearing

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(gavel)

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anyone have any comments, please come up and speak.

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>> no speakers for the public hearing.

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>> okay. Thank you.

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>> I will call for speakers from the public hearing

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one more time?

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>> and a third time. And the public hearing is now

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closed on the ordinances amending charter 2 of the duluth

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charter 1912. Other members of public comment for the

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agenda items. Clerk call the first speaker.

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>> the first speaker is jessica.

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>> welcome, if you need to adjust the lectern --

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>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

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>> jessica. And my name is jessica a resident of

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the parkland community and club. I'm a board member for

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the community led organization established to build the

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resilience of the park plan. We can sustain a plan for

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water and wildlife and infrastructure and people for

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generations to come. Many parkland residents have watched

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many years for the - while lot of sharing the neighborhood

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with visitors and the rentals we are worried about the

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next impacts it can have on the housing affordability and

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community cohesion.

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>> over the past several months, the community

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working group for vacation rentals in duluth we conducted

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an online survey with part time and full-time residents

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based on this and the resources from other communities

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across the country. We wrote a report for duluth and

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shared with city council. While the approach for the ones

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in the ordinance amending the duluth regulations for the -

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is somewhat different than the approach we recommended, it

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is deeply aligned. We believe the proposed approach will

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support the industry and helps our visitors and neighbors

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and helped with the availability - affordability. And we

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hope the city had continue to have - excuse me - commit

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positions for staff and reservoirs for giving us support

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and hope the city will track the ordinance and making

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adjustments if necessary to make sure the goals are met.

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we applaud the city council for the permits to allow for

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the pace for a better system and thank the city staff for

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their thoughtful approach to the vacation rentals. We

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believe the ordinance recommended by the city staff is a

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balance and we strongly encourage the city council to

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approve it.

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>> next speaker.

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>> pat sterner.

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>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

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>> pat sterner.

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>> good evening city of duluth and councilors, my

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name is pat. I'm a park point resident and for minnesota.

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and thank you for the opportunity to provide the comment

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on the proposed ordinance 38- zero amending the charters

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to regulate short-term rentals and rentals and essentially

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for what the colleague said and cited by a job underscore

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the importance of this ordinance in managing the

501
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permitting process to make sure that vacation rentals will

502
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bring an economic value to the city and the cities goals

503
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of maintaining housing tracks and target affordability.

504
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we appreciate the process if the owner is taking time to

505
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have our community in mind to consider ideas and concerns,

506
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to address led by the working group. For our part the

507
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community club and the .50 noticed a survey that included

508
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the short-term rentals and received a very good response

509
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from the comments throughout the process. We appreciate

510
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the seriousness of this ordinance and focusing on the

511
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training and enforcement those elements will help the

512
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management of short-term rentals especially with more than

513
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6 hundred permitted and non-permitted to be reviewed for

514
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value. And we urge the county council for a check in

515
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:39,100
point and staff feedback about how implementation is going

516
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:43,801
and especially the process for commenting and monitoring

517
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:49,401
this type of review for the potential amendment for

518
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:56,401
enhancement of effectiveness of work. Again, as noted by

519
00:59:57,100 --> 01:00:01,100
jeff the community strongly supports the ordinance as

520
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written to the entire staff and while we acknowledge no

521
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:10,100
work can be perfect without this ordinance, we will

522
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continue to as a community and city to struggle. We look

523
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forward to continuing to work in partnerships with the

524
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city staff and city council for a successful passage and

525
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implementation of this ordinance. Thank you.

526
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:33,601
>> our next speaker is chris coal.

527
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:39,100
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

528
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:45,100
>> my name is chris coal.l while the court denies

529
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:52,100
this following lester park, we urge the other protection

530
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:56,100
of the public resources. This conclusion session stated

531
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the voice of the people are the heart of democracy.

532
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:04,801
citizens should continue to hold their elected officials

533
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:10,100
accountable and they can attend meetings for the updated

534
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:13,100
plans that are present and can attend the city council

535
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:19,100
meetings for other available means for their voices to be

536
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heard. I'm here for the promotion that the thousand of

537
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:29,601
voices are heard in the council. The final version of the

538
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:33,100
land use study responds to the public people by protecting

539
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:37,100
more open space than the original versions, but the

540
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:42,401
planners only mission is an expensive process for the

541
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:47,801
infrastructure. And expenses might defer developers. So at

542
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the planning commission that meeting on the 13th following

543
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the commission following comments by the commissioners,

544
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:59,100
the city of duluth has too much green space. Commissioners

545
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:04,100
struggled to amend the commissioners asked pretty much had

546
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:08,100
consequences that of it would be and remember in the end

547
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:13,100
this amendment was passed by 3 of the commissioners and

548
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:19,100
that amendment to lower that why the amendment cancels all

549
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:24,100
the intent conclusions and directions of the planners. If

550
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:30,100
adopted will, by this council or any subsequent council to

551
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:34,100
dispose of any profit that the l g y has and give it away

552
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:39,100
to developers. And for more than 70 acres to be retired

553
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:44,401
for commercial space including a private golf course. The

554
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:49,201
amendment covers any protection honoring thousands of

555
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:55,401
people sought for open space to develop. Since those

556
01:02:56,100 --> 01:03:00,100
commission meetings minutes have not been published few

557
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:03,100
people had a chance to read the amendment, understand it

558
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and undercuts the plan. My purpose in speaking to make

559
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:13,100
sure a public record is made and the consequences adopting

560
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the plan in its current form adopts this without the

561
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:20,100
amendment.

562
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:21,100
>> thank you.

563
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:24,100
>> our next speaker is james hansen.

564
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:28,801
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

565
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:40,401
>> hi, I'm james hansen. I'm a member of the

566
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national resource commission. On the recent meetings have

567
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:51,100
heard reports from the city staff and asked questions on

568
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:56,401
duluth's natural aids program. And the cedar creek fish

569
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:04,100
kill another item we have spent a lot of time discussing

570
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:10,100
with the city staff, new land use study of lester park the

571
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:15,100
golf course area. There is 4 natural areas designated in

572
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:20,401
duluth. We have a new management with enforcement the

573
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:27,601
heart area of the st. Louis river natural area and the

574
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river natural area. And adjacent to the cluster area is

575
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:40,100
the park golf course. And a unique opportunity to expand

576
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:46,100
own some of that natural habitat and restore to the

577
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:49,100
wetlands that originally were there. And what I know

578
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:56,201
there is a demand for housing in duluth. And the land use

579
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,100
study does acknowledge that that lower third can

580
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:04,801
potentially be developed to help alleviate the housing

581
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:11,100
crunch. The opportunity to at least with the opportunity

582
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:17,100
connected to the west hampton expand that natural area for

583
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:22,401
1100 acres, you know, nearly 14 hundred add and and that

584
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:31,401
tourism unique location to the beach and the lakewalk

585
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:36,100
trail and the hiking trail and the shore. There is a

586
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:41,401
unique opportunity to expand on that economic machine for

587
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:48,100
the city of duluth. Such as city-owned campgrounds on the

588
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:55,100
west end to my understanding income generated for the city

589
01:05:55,100 --> 01:06:00,401
something of that nature can happen and might alleviate

590
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:06,100
with the short-term rentals. With more challenging

591
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:11,100
opportunity for folks that visit the state while seven

592
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:15,201
hundred to 900 units will generate $500,000 million for

593
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:24,100
the parkland. But an income with the parking the current

594
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:33,601
half cent generates more than we gain from property tax in

595
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,100
the city. Thank you.

596
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:40,100
>> thank you. And our next speaker is hayden.

597
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:44,801
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

598
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:56,100
>> my name is hayden, I live in district one. And I

599
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,100
was here in the city council chamber in december of 2025,

600
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that when something happens instead of commissioning a

601
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:09,100
land use study, we are impacted while the city council

602
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:13,100
conveyed all the land and began the process and at the

603
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:17,100
results of the land use study. I - I don't need to tell

604
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:22,100
you that is in the court more than it should be look like

605
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:27,100
trying to put the wheat in the bag before the lights were

606
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:33,100
on. I, I was here in december 2025, when a convoluted

607
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:37,100
resolution made the agenda that predicated the intention

608
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:40,100
of lester park with the lester park golf course to the

609
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:44,801
developer. This office is political skipping. That is

610
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:51,100
clear that the city bundling was for the simple majority

611
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:58,100
for the state of duress, we shoot the dog the argument and

612
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:03,401
the resolution condemned itself. And now that duress comes

613
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:12,100
back as counselors they placed on the minutes today to

614
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:18,100
piece together what the materiality is. The actions of a

615
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:23,100
mayor and city council distrust can damage the reputation

616
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:28,100
with the residents. This was done one in 6 voters. As I

617
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:32,100
said, a petition for the corrupt process watching unfold

618
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:35,100
that, that was in front of us by the city council and the

619
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:40,401
mayor. This goes beyond lester park when the corrupt

620
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:47,100
processes happen to to corrupt. There is a rock that

621
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:59,100
leaves nothing safe for the right start to righting a

622
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:04,100
wrong and the super majority will be established by the

623
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:09,100
city. And this breaches the trust. And during a time of

624
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:13,201
natural or national curruptness and environmental collapse

625
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:18,100
most are talked about. And the city of duluth will not

626
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:23,100
forget the politicians back up in their home, don't try to

627
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:25,100
make things right.

628
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>> thank you.

629
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>> our next speaker is ansel.

630
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:36,100
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

631
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:41,401
>> good evening, I live in the district. First, I

632
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want to thank the city staff and councilors for taking

633
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:51,100
time to engage the communities about the lester park golf

634
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:55,100
course project. And also thank the councilors that added

635
01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:59,100
the motion to tonight's resolution added by the planning

636
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:03,100
commission or for for redesignating the city for the

637
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:09,100
protected park land that people in city of duluth are

638
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:14,201
passionate about. The conservation and political shortage

639
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:21,100
of the housing both locally and nationally, no one takes

640
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:26,100
that lightly. It needed to be restated that the contention

641
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:30,100
in the process it is not from the discussion. And

642
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:35,100
unfortunately, many of the media and the discussion in and

643
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:39,201
around that housing versus conservation and completely

644
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:46,100
ignored around the process and the push back came from the

645
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:52,100
decision to convey the parkland before the land use study

646
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:56,100
was complete. And one note changed the hands for the

647
01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:00,801
protection was forgotten and however unlikely the entire

648
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:07,100
property is still for a simple majority vote and against

649
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:12,100
the acknowledging desire of the one to focus. This

650
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:17,100
property didn't need to be in the protected status for the

651
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:22,100
land use study. We could have let this play out for the

652
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:26,801
protection. This unnecessary step eroded the public trust

653
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:33,100
and the discussions around what we should build, those

654
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:37,100
were from the planning commission recommendation for the

655
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:42,100
entire property for not just the lower 60 acres in the

656
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:45,100
land use study that was spoken that people are concerned

657
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:50,401
about. And their rights were described away. I'm asking

658
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:58,100
to restore the protection and to accept the land use study

659
01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:02,100
recommendations of pursuing the development. The people of

660
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:07,100
the duluth want to focus on the data solutions not

661
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:11,100
watchdog in the public eye. Thank you.

662
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:12,100
>> next speaker.

663
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:14,100
>> denise.

664
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:21,801
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

665
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:28,100
need to adjust the lectern, you can.

666
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:29,100
>> can you hear me?

667
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:31,100
>> yes.

668
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:39,100
>> denise. I'd like to make comments on two agenda

669
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items. First one is 2607235. That is a personnel matter

670
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:53,100
and and I'd like to gently and respectfully urge you to

671
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:59,100
vote no on that particular person being put on that

672
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:06,801
commission. And here for 2 weeks, I heard questioning

673
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:12,100
particularly to the councils that asked very pointed and

674
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:17,401
specific questions and ask them and that person virtually

675
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:28,601
led many to believe that you would filling an open seat

676
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:36,100
just to fill an open seat. I think perhaps needs a little

677
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:41,100
bit more and maybe to come back with their time and try

678
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:46,100
and get on the commission then. But I think now is not the

679
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:50,100
right time for this person. And that's how this person

680
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:52,100
will not vote for that person.

681
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:57,401
>> the the other thing is 26 zero 7 for the lester

682
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:07,100
park. I agree with all the people that came. I also was

683
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:13,100
at the planning commission meeting. It has come here with

684
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:21,100
barely a quorum, only 5 people there and tabled, only got

685
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:27,601
3 votes. I would like to know more, and definitely no more

686
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:37,100
than the 37 originally was proposed to do them and whose

687
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:44,100
mission is economic. I'd like to see the land whoever

688
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:48,100
person developed and hoping that is on in the lower half

689
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:54,100
or the lower third, the base. I'd like to see a portion of

690
01:14:54,100 --> 01:15:00,100
that go to a nonprofit or either a state or governmental

691
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:04,801
or county governmental equity whose sole position is

692
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:14,100
trying to get nine hundred new housing units with

693
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:20,100
10 percent of what the city has accepted. That is an

694
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:24,100
incredible amount and told that 33 percent goes to the

695
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:28,100
city of duluth and 200 or below to the poverty level.

696
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:33,401
33 percent will be at 200 percent poverty or below. And

697
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:40,801
finally affordable housing, $986. Not going to happen in

698
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:52,100
the economic. Please, please break it up. So that someone

699
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:56,100
is interested in housing, housing, everyone in the city

700
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,100
has a stake. Thank you very much.

701
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:00,100
>> thank you.

702
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:02,100
>> our next speaker is -

703
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:07,401
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code. If

704
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:16,100
you need to adjust the podium so --

705
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:17,100
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

706
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:24,100
>> my name is meg and I'm at -- I'd like to comment

707
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:29,100
today on the resolution to reclassify the area for the

708
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:33,801
lester park and procedural registry regarding that and

709
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:38,100
building that the land use study conducted reasonably

710
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:44,100
well. I was frustrated to hear the planning commission to

711
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:49,401
disregard this and for the infrastructure and water and

712
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:55,100
sewer is practical in the way of long term and housing.

713
01:16:55,100 --> 01:17:00,100
I'd like to thank the councilor for the amendment on the

714
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:04,100
commissions recommendations and revise the land use study.

715
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:08,100
that study favors the developments on the 33 acres

716
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:14,100
property in the upper two .7 acres of open space and to

717
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:18,801
thank the councilor last week. And especially councilor

718
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:32,100
randorf directions the city to remain in ownership and in

719
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:38,100
the protected park lane it really aims to be in the spirit

720
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:43,100
of the land use study. I strongly urge you to follow up

721
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:49,601
with the resolution with both of the amendments and to be

722
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:54,100
passing those amendments shows the council means what it

723
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:59,100
says to the people. Which is not something that 34 of us

724
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:04,401
have been happy throughout the process, a reason between

725
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:09,801
housing development and making public land. I encourage

726
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:13,100
the city council to meet with the planning commission to

727
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:19,601
use the land use study and adopt it without making future

728
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:21,100
decisions and development and open space and park. Thank

729
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:23,100
you.

730
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:30,801
>> thank you. And our next speaker is alec.

731
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:36,100
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

732
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:42,100
>> I'm alec in the central park plaza side, been a

733
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:47,100
long process. Thank you for your continued working at

734
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:54,100
least going through this a little while and I hope it goes

735
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:57,100
along with the land use study recommendation, and 33 acres

736
01:18:57,100 --> 01:19:01,801
for mixed-use housing, and 7 acres for parking and

737
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:05,100
consider before making a recommendation use for the zoning

738
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:10,401
process. And what the super majority deserves and point

739
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:16,100
out ,again, the limited trust in the process. Trust is

740
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:22,100
hard-earned. And it will take much pause, but it takes

741
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:27,401
open communication to be built teenagers and adults have

742
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:35,601
to have trust. We called this last time. This cycle is

743
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:40,201
simple completion to communicate the consistent action

744
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:45,201
creating trust establishes, relationships. This cycle was

745
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:50,100
broken down into the steps of lester park in the process

746
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:56,601
and can be rebuilt. To that end, the motion to amend -

747
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:02,100
proposed rejecting the planning commission changes are

748
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piecing as the intent for the city to retain ownership of

749
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:09,100
the acres designated as parkland. Thank you for that.

750
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:14,100
>> part of the process of redeeming and to be clear

751
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:18,100
communicate and consist and create more trust. Thank you

752
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:20,100
for you time and your service.

753
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:25,401
>> thank you. And our next speaker is jill crawford

754
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:27,100
nichols.

755
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:31,801
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

756
01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:37,100
>> good evening, jill.

757
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:42,100
>> I'm in district 4 and have a big agenda but here

758
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:48,100
to speak on the study and representing chapter of the

759
01:20:49,100 --> 01:20:53,100
mountain legacy and referring to the bike. We have been

760
01:20:53,100 --> 01:20:58,401
engaged in the issues since the beginning in 2019, and

761
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:04,100
opposed the sale of the public parkland and come before

762
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:08,201
the commission on numerous occasions. And recently,

763
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:12,100
oppose this lester park golf course. Before the completion

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01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:16,100
of the land use study. So tonight, I'm pleased to be here

765
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:20,100
to speak in support of the land use study finding we

766
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:25,100
wanted to recognize the good work and particularly their

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01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:31,100
effort that open and offer a constant opportunity for the

768
01:21:33,100 --> 01:21:36,100
public and the recommendation is supported by their

769
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:39,100
community and supports the many, many public comments that

770
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:44,100
were made in december and november of this past year. And

771
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:49,401
protecting the acres of the upper golf course right

772
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:54,100
decision. And also thank the councilors for offering to

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01:21:54,100 --> 01:22:00,100
remove the action of august 13th, which will have effected

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01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:03,601
the recommendation. And therefore wasting 200 thousand -

775
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:10,100
thousands of taxpayer money. And one concern in the

776
01:22:10,100 --> 01:22:15,401
amendments refers to as the 200 acres at open space,

777
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:21,401
however, open space is not a designation. Therefore, we

778
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:27,100
encourage you to have the current designation for the 200

779
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:32,100
and 7 acres and remove those acres from the data. And in

780
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:37,100
addition to this, we strongly encourage the councilors to

781
01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:40,100
take and address steps for the 6 hundred or 200 and

782
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:45,100
7 acres to have protection by a member of our own

783
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:49,801
commission. Thank you, on behalf of 1 hundred and 20.

784
01:22:52,100 --> 01:22:56,201
>> our final agenda speaker is lisa patrick.

785
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:08,801
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

786
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:14,801
>> lisa fitzpatrick. I live near lester park and

787
01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:21,100
lester park golf course. I want to thank councilor

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01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:26,100
durrwachter for the study in saying keep parkland. I

789
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:31,401
agree with pretty much everyone talking about the 200 and

790
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:36,801
7 acres of parkland. I appreciate the zoning administer's

791
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:48,100
and president nephew having written the -- I forgot the

792
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:55,100
word to do that. And I would, I also want to say I was one

793
01:23:55,100 --> 01:24:01,100
of those who went with the petition around duluth and

794
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:07,100
people in west duluth were signing it. I was in central

795
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:14,201
hillside and I went to -- with flags of a certain party

796
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:22,100
that I know was not in agreement. We talked about people

797
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:28,100
having a voice and what happens to our land. And I had

798
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:33,100
conversations with them people. And, of course, mostly in

799
01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:39,100
lester park but, having said that, I agree with everyone

800
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:40,100
and let's go forward in good faith. Thank you.

801
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:42,100
>> thank you.

802
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:50,100
>> president nephew. Move on to non-agenda items.

803
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:52,100
the first speaker is ali.

804
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:54,100
>> welcome.

805
01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:56,100
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

806
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:58,100
>> ali.

807
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:01,401
>> signing and - (unintelligible).

808
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:13,401
>> from the crane clearing here, we are great lake

809
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:23,601
superior and here to talk the lakewalk I posted close to

810
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:27,100
be close to it. And have my daughter have access to it

811
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:32,100
where we belong. And the closure of the lake sees it

812
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:35,100
harmful to the city of duluth. And I think my daughter's

813
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:39,201
development and facilitating the connection and brought

814
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:46,100
her to the lakewalk when she was a baby. I bring her

815
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:51,100
there still and want her to know herself to this lake and

816
01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:56,401
want other duluth's to have opportunity and for children

817
01:25:57,100 --> 01:26:02,100
as human beings and for their development is vital. We

818
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:08,601
are fortunate to live next to this place. It is harmful

819
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:18,100
in this space and not going the another way. Further this

820
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:25,201
project will be proper to the public and the - nothing is

821
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:29,100
impeding, of course. I think nothing of notice from

822
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:33,100
recruitment. I too want to take care of other services

823
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:38,100
that is the community of people that want to serve notice

824
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:43,100
and on the -- in regard to the land use both to the public

825
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:49,100
who is already deeply familiar and scared away, dying to

826
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:56,100
come around a curve where birds were gone and beginning to

827
01:26:56,100 --> 01:27:02,100
do anything with the trees. And they trimmed away trees

828
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:08,100
for the public and changing, as well as, for the - I wish

829
01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:14,100
I could -- we could put up for the trees and I e-mailed

830
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:21,100
city hall both for further work to be done on the lakewalk

831
01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:26,401
and cause hardship to families. And after planning having

832
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:31,100
seen concerns about the shoreline near my home is a

833
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:36,401
magical cove of boulders and lining the shore appreciated

834
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:43,401
by many. Those gathered deserve to be undisturbed and

835
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:52,201
desire the land. And I'm weary of a project I think at

836
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:56,100
the expense of nature that is curated by nature. My

837
01:27:56,100 --> 01:28:01,100
daughter wanted me to express for her it is fun climbing

838
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:05,100
on the rocks and seeing light, water. The rocks are warm

839
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:10,100
and like the sound of wind and waves. Can you not move

840
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:11,100
the rocks?

841
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:17,100
>> I think public input even from the time it's to

842
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:19,100
the streetscape water like is vital and -- thank you.

843
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:21,100
>> thank you.

844
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:29,100
>> your final speaker is lauren.

845
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:34,100
>> welcome. Please state your name and zip code.

846
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:39,401
>> good evening, council. I just want to start by

847
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:46,100
saying I've seen the public comment is impressive tonight

848
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:51,100
in the community. And I'm off, taking off, again -- sorry

849
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:57,100
about that. As a candidate to address a most serious

850
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:08,100
problem. And resident in the state of minnesota a major

851
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:12,100
general fund caused by an action. Those payments coming

852
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:16,100
out of the budget were originally intended to spare the

853
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:22,100
cost of the $108 million from the taxpayer and fell far

854
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:29,100
short of reaching that goal. As now has been moved to the

855
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:35,100
taxpayers and less promised. But at the height of scheme 7

856
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:42,100
hundred million was coming out of the general fund.

857
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:48,601
polling to many that was as factor plan. So it is

858
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:53,201
understandable that the current superintendant wanted to

859
01:29:55,100 --> 01:30:01,100
fully erase that burden. During the committee of the whole

860
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:07,100
in in july of 2023, the bond broker passed the referendum

861
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:14,100
on the ballot quote asking the taxpayer to support this.

862
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:20,100
he also said if he gets stuck in the revenue and the taxes

863
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:26,601
will cost him, he pointed out will not be successful. He

864
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:31,100
was looking at the height of the cost for the taxpayers

865
01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:36,100
not a single one said I'm a representative of the public,

866
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:39,100
but the taxes are what will it cost.

867
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:44,100
>> they have every right to know. Nearly all the

868
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:49,401
plans was recommended was paid in 2028 and see a

869
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:56,801
significant drop in 2029 with the meeting with the

870
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:02,801
superintendent in from 2023, will prevent this from taking

871
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:10,100
a relief from lower taxes. He was now going to step us

872
01:31:10,100 --> 01:31:15,100
down. The citizens of duluth are not for going into debt

873
01:31:15,100 --> 01:31:21,100
and agreeing to pay 28 more for the red plan. By voting

874
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:27,601
for that referendum, no one was asked if they're okay with

875
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:34,601
that. I think we should be seeing the clear semantics and

876
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:42,801
during the school district push for the referendum.

877
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:47,100
>> thank you. And president nephew that concludes

878
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:49,100
the list of speakers for the public comment.

879
01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:52,100
>> thank you very much. And next move on to the

880
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:57,100
consent agenda. I would like to remind the public

881
01:31:57,100 --> 01:32:02,100
commissioner johnson is on line tonight with a role call

882
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:04,100
vote.

883
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:07,100
>> motion to approve the consent agenda.

884
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:11,201
>> seconded by councilor randorf. Not seeing any

885
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:15,100
questions.

886
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:16,100
>> clerk, call the roll.

887
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:17,100
>> councilor clanaugh, yes.

888
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:19,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

889
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:23,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes. And councilor tomanek,

890
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:25,100
yes. And councilor randorf, yes.

891
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:29,201
>> vice president kennedy, yes. And president nephew

892
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:31,100
and counselor forsman.

893
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:35,100
>> the consent agenda passes 9 to zero. And move on

894
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:37,100
to item 23.

895
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:48,100
>> resolutions tabled

896
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:49,100
24. 26-0723

897
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:50,100
by councilor forsman (personnel)

898
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:51,100
resolution confirming the appointment of brianna gunderson

899
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:52,100
to the duluth entertainment and convention center

900
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:53,100
authority. And we is a motion and seconded by councilor

901
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:57,100
tomanek and next to discussion or I'm trying to remember

902
01:32:57,100 --> 01:33:02,100
the process a vice president kennedy weigh like to read

903
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:03,100
the amendment.

904
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:07,100
>> all right. Vice president kennedy, go ahead.

905
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:13,601
>> do you want me to read the whole thing or just

906
01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:17,100
the statement of the public purpose?

907
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:21,801
>>> we are reading the resolution 26. I want to

908
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:34,100
highlight a strike through after the less -- so I'll read

909
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:39,100
that part and go down to the statement of purpose and the

910
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:44,401
special meeting. So, now therefore, the city adopts this

911
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:49,100
planning commission and concludes that the duluth land use

912
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:55,100
plan is hereby amended by adding it to the lester park

913
01:33:55,100 --> 01:33:59,100
golf course study plan. And what was strictly as amended

914
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:03,801
by the additional recommendation which will be the

915
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:09,100
planning commission vote argument. And then today want me

916
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:13,100
to read the full statement of purpose for the special

917
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:14,100
meet?

918
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:15,100
>> to the end.

919
01:34:15,100 --> 01:34:21,100
>> so we're at the very end. And I'll read the

920
01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:25,201
special meeting on august 13, 2026, the applications held

921
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:33,100
a planning hearing on the lecturing and the future land

922
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:38,100
use map reviewed this. Staff's attachment 3 and discussed

923
01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:42,100
and deliberated the matter. The planning commission

924
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:45,100
considered a motion to recommend the city council

925
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:50,100
recommend to the city council the lester park golf course

926
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:54,100
future land use amendment and vision plan and future land

927
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:58,100
use amendment as amended and additional recommendation.

928
01:34:58,100 --> 01:35:04,100
they had a vote which passed 5 yeahs and no abstentions

929
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:11,100
and added to this motion to amend the planning commission

930
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:15,801
additional recommendation. So this will be our amendment.

931
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:20,100
and so basically, the intention to go back and follow the

932
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:26,100
recommendations of the land use study. And in the queue

933
01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:27,100
counselor forsman.

934
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:29,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

935
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:33,100
>> thank you, excuse me - drink a drink -

936
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:37,201
>> thank you, both for offering this amendment

937
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:45,100
appreciate it coming from the act that that -- and back to

938
01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:49,100
december we took up the land use study. It was clear

939
01:35:49,100 --> 01:35:53,100
normally what the results a followup of the public

940
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:57,100
process. Here we are. I know we all have different ideas

941
01:35:57,100 --> 01:36:01,100
in the lester park golf course future looked like for some

942
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:06,100
people it looked like any development and for others more

943
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:12,100
like the land use. But to honor my work for december to

944
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:15,100
honor the results of that study and what was originally

945
01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:20,100
put forward to the planning commission finding, before we

946
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:24,100
take a vote, I want to address the sustainability in this

947
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:29,100
room and on line our. Planning commissioners who are

948
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:33,100
unpaid put in long hours and a lot of research and bring

949
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:37,100
recommendations on some of the most local decisions this

950
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:42,100
council decisions as an elected official to debate the

951
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:45,100
recommendations and make decisions. We agree with the

952
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:48,100
planning commission and sometimes we don't. That is how

953
01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:52,100
the process works, that's okay. What is not acceptable

954
01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:58,100
and I hope fellow councilors will say not attacking the

955
01:36:58,100 --> 01:37:02,801
volunteer public servants simply because you disagree with

956
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:10,801
them. I saw family members the day after but - I can tell

957
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:15,100
you first-hand how much that hurt him. And in this case

958
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:20,100
nick is a dedicated long time community member but on the

959
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:25,100
port of the chester board and a model citizen. And when

960
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:29,801
people overact in discussions with or without expansions

961
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:36,100
gives the people and staff volunteers that serve our city

962
01:37:36,100 --> 01:37:41,100
wants to not serve. That is a loss so debate is welcome

963
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:45,100
attacking the character of volunteers that step forward to

964
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:50,100
serve is not. Let's do a little bit better when it comes

965
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:54,100
to discuss versus tearing down people especially those not

966
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:56,100
elected officials.

967
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:59,601
>> thank you, councilor forsman. And councilor

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01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:02,100
desotelle.

969
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:03,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

970
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:07,100
>>. Thank you very much for adding that amendment,

971
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:10,100
president nephew and vice president kennedy. And the

972
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:13,100
planning commission meeting watched had happened. The land

973
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:17,100
use study was processed and that is confusing in the

974
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:20,100
language for the amendment. That remember when that that

975
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:25,401
was passed 3/or 5 out of 9 commissioners were present and

976
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:33,401
turned out the other 4 commissioners were there. And on

977
01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:38,100
the one hand, saying the zone is this way.

978
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:42,100
>> wondering the zone is this way. This didn't work

979
01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:44,100
so I appreciate the amendment. And I think at that time

980
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:47,100
we need to move forward and accept that.

981
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:51,801
>> thank you councilor desotelle. And to go back

982
01:38:56,100 --> 01:39:00,100
quickly a question for the motion to amend. I believe

983
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:05,100
there was moved and I will second that. I felt a formal

984
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:11,100
second and mayor that is taken care of now. And councilor

985
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:12,100
clanaugh.

986
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:13,100
>> thank you, president nephew. And we're all capable

987
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:19,100
myself included of having ideas often with the best of

988
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:23,801
intentions. And my estimation the planning commission is

989
01:39:24,100 --> 01:39:28,100
with their motivation their amendment of something that is

990
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:34,100
going off-base. I want to thank the people tonight for

991
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:38,100
looking at this idea and putting it to rest. And

992
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:42,201
counselor forsman for reminding us. And attacking

993
01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:47,801
character of one another. Working with our citizens.

994
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:51,100
>> thank you.

995
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:54,100
>> commissioner johnson.

996
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:56,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

997
01:39:56,100 --> 01:40:00,100
>> I also want to echo express my appreciation for

998
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:05,100
the amendment and will be chiming in. Our planning

999
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:11,100
commission does a great deal of work and we need to honor

1000
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:17,100
respect this work in our disagreements with ideas they do

1001
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:25,100
have the process they go through. And are facing the most

1002
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:31,100
challenging kind of discussions in some respect to the how

1003
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:36,100
we move forward in regards to that. So I appreciate the

1004
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:40,801
report I appreciate the communication and looking forward

1005
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:49,601
to continue to have our golf course or moved in inland

1006
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:51,100
area.

1007
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:54,100
>> all right. Thank you councilor johnson.

1008
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:58,801
>> not seeing any further comments. Thank you, vice

1009
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:05,100
president kennedy for reading this amendment. We need to

1010
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:11,100
go back to counselor forsman. Go back to what we promised

1011
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:14,100
for the land use study and we are doing that tonight that

1012
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:18,100
is the intention. But your planning commissioners they do

1013
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:24,100
an enormous amount of work and agree with the statements

1014
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:31,100
he is a astonishing citizen. With that, call the motion

1015
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:37,100
the amended version of lester park golf course study by

1016
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:40,100
councilor kennedy.

1017
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:45,100
>> clerk, call the roll. On the amendment.

1018
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:46,100
>> councilor clanaugh, yes.

1019
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:47,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1020
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,100
>> councilor desotelle, no.

1021
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:52,100
>> councilor tomanek, yes.

1022
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:54,100
>> councilor randorf, yes.

1023
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:56,100
>> vice president kennedy, yes.

1024
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:57,100
>> president nephew, yes. And counselor forsman,

1025
01:41:57,100 --> 01:41:59,100
aye.

1026
01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:06,201
>> all right. The resolution 7 61 as amended by

1027
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:12,401
myself and vice president kennedy passes 9 to zero and

1028
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:16,100
councilor randorf read in our amendment.

1029
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:17,100
>> thank you

1030
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:18,100
>> thank you, president nephew. The purpose of this

1031
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:23,100
motion to amend to implement the adopted lester park golf

1032
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:28,100
course study by the process to remove 200 and 7 acres

1033
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:33,100
identified as open space for the agreement and retain the

1034
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:37,801
city ownership and to the following entitled ordinances

1035
01:42:49,100 --> 01:42:50,100
residential rural 1 (rr-1) to park & open space (p-1).

1036
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:55,100
this is actually simple. They acted in the agreement we

1037
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:59,100
voted on how we will address the property once the land

1038
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:04,100
use study is done? The next step the land use study is

1039
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:08,201
complete it identifies approximately 200 and 7 acres as

1040
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:15,100
p-1 open space. And in section 11 and 2 g the development

1041
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:20,100
agreement addresses the process for removing the property

1042
01:43:20,100 --> 01:43:25,100
in the arrangement that will not be transferred to them.

1043
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:30,100
and so this is that process we're following the process

1044
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:34,100
and in the development agreement and in it it council

1045
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:40,100
requests the city administrator 2 f and g to remove the

1046
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:47,100
200 and 7 acres. And I have of them as p-1 open space and

1047
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:51,801
additional steps we think, there are appropriate zoning

1048
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:57,100
processes to follow. This we know that and it is

1049
01:43:57,100 --> 01:44:01,100
suggesting all completed tonight and simply asking us to

1050
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:05,100
acknowledge the outcome. The land use study we approved

1051
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:09,100
and initiate that process established for us any

1052
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:13,100
development agreement to implement that that is an

1053
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:16,100
important step to classify and important for transparency

1054
01:44:16,100 --> 01:44:19,100
and affordability. And we ask for the study we resolved

1055
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:24,100
the study and the development tells us what to do next and

1056
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:28,100
identify the property. This amendment simply starts that

1057
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:29,100
process. I encourage my follow councilors to vote. Thank

1058
01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:31,100
you.

1059
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:36,801
>> and motion and second and seconded by councilor

1060
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:40,100
desotelle

1061
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:41,100
(laughter).

1062
01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:42,100
>> and counselor forsman.

1063
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:44,401
>> thank you, president nephew.

1064
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:51,100
>> president nephew. Is it okay if we were to ask

1065
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:54,100
questions of our attorney that better clarifies, not

1066
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:57,100
having an opportunity during the open session.

1067
01:44:57,100 --> 01:45:02,100
>> I'll allow for that and not had the opportunity

1068
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:03,100
for (multiple voices).

1069
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:04,100
>> sure.

1070
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:05,100
>> sorry, attorney.

1071
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:11,100
>> I want to help maybe start getting our arms around

1072
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:18,100
this itself. In the development agreement last december, I

1073
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:23,100
think that a pause was cited in the amendment that defined

1074
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:30,100
read a requirement the council has to take up a change in

1075
01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:34,100
the property boundary if we're going to not convey

1076
01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:37,100
something that is in addition to that. So a requirement

1077
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:41,100
if we're going to shrink the footprint of the whole

1078
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:46,100
property something other than that that. For deda to close

1079
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:49,100
based on the land use study. Is that; correct?

1080
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:52,601
>> president nephew and councilor forsman. That's;

1081
01:45:57,100 --> 01:45:59,100
correct. Clear in the process the land use study

1082
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:02,100
indicated that any thought that land will not be feasible

1083
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:07,401
for developments and deda will not say that is

1084
01:46:10,100 --> 01:46:13,100
developable. And now into the action the amendment to the

1085
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:17,801
development agreement this raises that costs of 200 and 7

1086
01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:21,100
acres in the actual acreage.

1087
01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:25,801
>> another question that we will have taken an

1088
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:30,100
agreement that comes about for the council the 200 and 7

1089
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:35,100
acres another step for the closing down evident of that

1090
01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:37,100
property if this continues forward.

1091
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:39,100
>> president nephew and counselor forsman. This is

1092
01:46:39,100 --> 01:46:45,100
correct. Keep in mind that closing date is 2027 have an

1093
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:50,100
amount of time to do the initial steps.

1094
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:55,100
>> I had two last questions, I'm sure others have.

1095
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:59,100
this is helpful and accurate to say we're not adding new

1096
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:03,100
protections to that 200 and 7 acres as part of the

1097
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:07,100
redevelopment agreement, but that basically just keeps in

1098
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:11,100
mind that clause in f that we have to do this by

1099
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:16,100
resolution if we're to shrink that footprint not like

1100
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:20,100
we're - any reading of the agreement if we cancel that

1101
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:25,401
can't have anything rezoned. And this acreage can be

1102
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:31,100
conveyed as the land use study adopted in the future. I

1103
01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:37,100
maybe, I'm going circular. I guess my question can you

1104
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:41,100
confirm we're not adding any new protections as part of

1105
01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:46,401
the amendment with the 200 and 7 acres, but expecting this

1106
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:52,100
in the next month's to take the acreage and resolution for

1107
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:53,100
the compliance?

1108
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:55,100
>> president nephew and counselor forsman.

1109
01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:59,801
>> my understanding the motion to amend by councilor

1110
01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:08,100
randorf means we are agreeing with the plan study that

1111
01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:11,100
recommendations up to two hundred and 7 approximately

1112
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:16,100
acres will be open space and those action items will be

1113
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:22,100
operated and developed as p-1 but a few acres are not

1114
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:28,100
we're quite sure have to make sure they're all in that

1115
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:29,100
agreement.

1116
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:34,100
>> if those acres stay p-1 and can't because of

1117
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:36,100
development agreement.

1118
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:38,100
>> counselor forsman, that's correct.

1119
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:42,100
>> thank you. That's what I was trying to get at.

1120
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:44,100
>> councilor clanaugh.

1121
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:46,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1122
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:48,100
>> thank you, councilor randorf for proposing to

1123
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:52,100
address the concerns that many have concerns about

1124
01:48:52,100 --> 01:48:55,100
tonight. We heard about the concerns and thanks for

1125
01:48:55,100 --> 01:49:01,601
proposing this laying this to rest and put a horse in

1126
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:08,100
front of the cart. A given the unfortunate decision that

1127
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:13,100
come out of the planning commission and those

1128
01:49:13,100 --> 01:49:15,100
possibilities that that vote -

1129
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:18,100
>> all right. And councilor durrwachter.

1130
01:49:19,100 --> 01:49:20,100
>> tomb.

1131
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:22,401
>> and well thank you.

1132
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:26,100
>> thank you, president nephew. And vice president

1133
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:31,100
kennedy for approving this meantime I support and also I

1134
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,100
want to thank councilor randorf for bringing this really

1135
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:39,100
important resolution before - forward it furthers us on in

1136
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:45,100
protecting the 200 and 7 acres that the good work has

1137
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:49,100
determined our inevitable open space. We previously do

1138
01:49:49,100 --> 01:49:54,401
because the city staff and back in 1245 study. I

1139
01:49:57,100 --> 01:50:00,601
appreciate that. We're disclosing to permanently

1140
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:09,100
protecting that land 8 to one parkland vote in the future.

1141
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:10,100
thank you very much.

1142
01:50:10,100 --> 01:50:12,401
>> vice president kennedy and.

1143
01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:15,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1144
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:17,100
>> this is a question for the attorney.

1145
01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:22,401
>> one of the ones councilor randorf stated of those

1146
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:27,100
protections or any of the action would be put forward

1147
01:50:27,100 --> 01:50:34,801
until we have voted on the land use study. Are we too far

1148
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:39,100
ahead? Don't we vote for the land use study and then go

1149
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:44,100
back - I'm feeling we're a little bit ahead.

1150
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:47,100
>> president nephew and vice president kennedy this

1151
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:53,100
body will decide to approve the land use study. And it is

1152
01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:58,100
fine with the councils to make the motion to amend that

1153
01:50:58,100 --> 01:51:03,100
before us tonight. We cannot get to far there is a long

1154
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:08,100
process yet to come but in reviewing both the motions to

1155
01:51:08,100 --> 01:51:12,100
amend and rectify them and we feel that's appropriate to

1156
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:13,100
make a decision tonight.

1157
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:15,100
>> amy martin.

1158
01:51:18,100 --> 01:51:21,100
>> thank you, president nephew. And thank you,

1159
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:25,100
councilor randorf for this amendment I think that was that

1160
01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:28,100
appropriate because there's a lot of perplexities and

1161
01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:32,100
having the decision the resolution remind us those land

1162
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:38,601
will - as attorney said when I start preserving and the

1163
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:43,801
legal studies acreage moving them around hoping surveys

1164
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:50,100
are not up to if we want to mocking make sure we the get

1165
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:56,100
did you p-1 right and on that note I want to clarify this

1166
01:51:56,100 --> 01:52:00,100
as we move forward with making sure that these lands stay

1167
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:05,100
p-1 that is open space not protected by a super that

1168
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:11,100
majority vote will be in the designated areas as parkland

1169
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:15,100
and I the clean power will be there to support the

1170
01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:18,100
community and working with several folks to make sure and

1171
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:22,100
staff to really look at the left hand or land and which

1172
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:26,100
ones do we want to make sure the park land is protected

1173
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:31,100
from the state statute that gives good you protection

1174
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:36,100
right now and abated by the work done so moved.

1175
01:52:36,100 --> 01:52:41,100
>> so far so excited we're getting back to this and

1176
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:46,100
fine-tune where is the lines are and look at the develop o

1177
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:48,100
development and top.

1178
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:50,100
>> counselor forsman.

1179
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:56,100
>> thank you, president nephew. One more question and

1180
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:59,100
follow-up from vice president kennedy on the sequence.

1181
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:03,801
just to confirm attorney you're interpretation of this

1182
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:08,601
amendment satisfies the requirement that specifically

1183
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:14,100
saying we'll have to do the additional resolution?

1184
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:18,801
>> but needs to come back with the development

1185
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:20,100
agreement?

1186
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:23,100
>> president nephew and counselor forsman that's

1187
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:27,100
acre or; correct. Thank you. And councilor tomanek.

1188
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:28,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1189
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:31,100
>> I have some concerns about how this was brought

1190
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:35,100
up, first of all, thank you to councilor randorf for doing

1191
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:39,100
the knowledge or, but I received the amendment as

1192
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:42,100
4 o'clock today, I resolved changes to the amendment

1193
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:47,100
7-minute before the meeting started in your not how I

1194
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:51,100
work. I appreciate the work you put into the hearing that

1195
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:56,401
didn't add extra protection we'll be accomplishing this in

1196
01:54:00,100 --> 01:54:04,100
a couple of months I'm not sure I support it.

1197
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:09,100
>> I have one more question if anyone else in the

1198
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:13,801
queue does councilmember amendment move the process feast

1199
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:20,100
for closing or that's my only question and like expedite

1200
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:26,100
and did our staff have enough time to do work along the

1201
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:27,100
way.

1202
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:30,100
>> president nephew. The motion to amend supported

1203
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:35,100
by councilor randorf didn't speed up the process align one

1204
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:42,801
of the goals will be to the motion to amend cads adds the

1205
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:47,100
clarification but it is the same timing.

1206
01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:49,100
>> thank you.

1207
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:51,100
>> councilor randorf.

1208
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:52,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1209
01:54:52,100 --> 01:54:54,100
>> I wanted to address the idea of protections we

1210
01:54:54,100 --> 01:54:57,100
are working on that and working with councilor durrwachter

1211
01:54:57,100 --> 01:55:04,201
it is true this property is p-1 so zoning is not offering

1212
01:55:05,100 --> 01:55:10,100
protection. We have to others clarifications that are for

1213
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:15,100
the resolution and neither of those that will take you

1214
01:55:15,100 --> 01:55:21,100
where the future, at at future time on this property not

1215
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:27,100
used for anything but to be pursue opportunity is just

1216
01:55:28,100 --> 01:55:33,100
saying already done p-1 and parking and open space is a

1217
01:55:33,100 --> 01:55:37,100
natural designation. And still some nice protections

1218
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:42,100
things you can't put on it and we are restricted on the

1219
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:47,100
types activities so a decent level of protection the clear

1220
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:52,401
reason that is important wasn't to quickly pit something

1221
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:59,100
throw and not in any way sloppy we worked on for week and

1222
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:02,100
talking about with the attorney and meaningful working

1223
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:08,100
prior to the amendment even prior to what we're seeing

1224
01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:12,100
forward today. But it is really important I think for the

1225
01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:18,100
public to be tracking. Many times we know a motion or a

1226
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:21,100
something coming next probation officer and people

1227
01:56:21,100 --> 01:56:25,100
tracking it not as clearly as we are and it is important

1228
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:30,100
we're not only adopting if land use substituted did you we

1229
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:36,100
hear you lowell high school and taking that last 10 and

1230
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:42,100
we're going to put that back and as p-1 and park and open

1231
01:56:42,100 --> 01:56:47,100
space and that was so important for me it's what I've been

1232
01:56:47,100 --> 01:56:52,100
hearing from my communities and other cities I - I

1233
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:57,100
encourage us to put on the timing and put aside any other

1234
01:56:57,100 --> 01:57:02,100
complexities and please forgive me for the late addition

1235
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:08,100
and please forgive me for the types of that are a direct

1236
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:14,601
ask I thought that was a great catch by counselor forsman

1237
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:19,801
so that flexibilities doesn't include that convention but

1238
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:25,100
this as solid amendment fiasco with that process and clear

1239
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:26,100
for the public. And I encourage everyone to approve it.

1240
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:28,100
thank you.

1241
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:35,100
>> councilor johnson.

1242
01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:36,100
>> intentional.

1243
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:40,801
>> appreciate all the comments that are added and

1244
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:47,100
also councilor randorf for making that slight in the

1245
01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:51,100
amount of at the last minute that was a concern I think

1246
01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:57,100
had initial needed amending but for myself we're still in

1247
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:04,100
the process moving towards trying to not do again ged get

1248
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:10,100
ahead of ourselves and riding out the process and being

1249
01:58:10,100 --> 01:58:13,100
clear about the processing process I appreciate the

1250
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:17,100
dialogue take place and have been clarified some of it

1251
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:18,100
questions that were brought forward it is helpful. Thank

1252
01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:20,100
you.

1253
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:24,100
>> councilor forsman.

1254
01:58:24,100 --> 01:58:25,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1255
01:58:25,100 --> 01:58:27,100
>> I have one more question for councilor randorf

1256
01:58:27,100 --> 01:58:32,100
you said it I was going to hesitate on one of my petitions

1257
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:38,100
he knew what you're trying to do in the plans was the word

1258
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:44,100
couple. I learned a lesson last year when we did the code

1259
01:58:44,100 --> 01:58:49,100
on the lester park golf course we took up the idea of

1260
01:58:49,100 --> 01:58:55,601
1500 acres protection took on a life of its own but I

1261
01:58:56,100 --> 01:59:00,100
recall that was actually an idea I had to try to put

1262
01:59:00,100 --> 01:59:03,100
different things together but in a way that balanced

1263
01:59:03,100 --> 01:59:08,100
development with protection. You just confirm that was the

1264
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:12,100
case and a lot of people with miss con assembles we're

1265
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:17,401
holding lester park golf course hostage which was a

1266
01:59:18,100 --> 01:59:21,100
reverse highway to do protection development. Thank you

1267
01:59:21,100 --> 01:59:23,100
very much. For letting me respond to that.

1268
01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:27,201
>> councilor forsman the minimal of 15 acres a

1269
01:59:31,100 --> 01:59:36,100
strips was so important. It was important for steps and it

1270
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:40,100
was important because we took look at 1500 acres of park

1271
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:45,100
not preserves and imagine we have millions of dollars and

1272
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:51,601
had it zoned p-1, but no deed. We had no additional

1273
01:59:52,100 --> 01:59:57,100
protection at any time someone can come in there and

1274
01:59:57,100 --> 02:00:01,100
change the land public speaker pristine park it is deep

1275
02:00:01,100 --> 02:00:07,601
with wildlife and watersheds and have and we said we're to

1276
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:16,100
also 95 of this make sure we do that. I still stand behind

1277
02:00:16,100 --> 02:00:21,100
the recommendation and that was an may I thing we saw

1278
02:00:21,100 --> 02:00:25,100
people come through and that is a legacy that double will

1279
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:31,100
be able to cherish for years to come we will cherish our

1280
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:37,100
parkland that was I'm proud of that a couple of items

1281
02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:40,100
putting that that tonight or together and thank you,

1282
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:45,100
counselor forsman and another in the same lane making sure

1283
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:49,100
that we're protecting those values to you thank you,

1284
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:50,100
again. And thank you.

1285
02:00:50,100 --> 02:00:52,100
>> councilor tomanek.

1286
02:00:52,100 --> 02:00:54,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1287
02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:58,100
>> I have a question about putting this 200 and 6

1288
02:00:58,100 --> 02:00:59,100
architectural into parkland.

1289
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:05,100
>> I don't know if it is for councilor randorf if we

1290
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:09,100
voted will that prohibit any changes to the land that

1291
02:01:09,100 --> 02:01:15,100
might not be able to the community I'm thinking of the had

1292
02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:18,100
a chance to see that and people people with disabilities

1293
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:24,100
are able to go out and for the first time in their life

1294
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:28,100
golf. Will it limit new developments of trails or so limit

1295
02:01:28,100 --> 02:01:34,100
the development of our learning center or just golf? Put

1296
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:36,100
your hand over your heart. It all both parkland but to

1297
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:39,100
keep any kind of development from happening?

1298
02:01:39,100 --> 02:01:41,100
>> councilor randorf.

1299
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:47,100
>> I answer that question that was answered thursday

1300
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:54,201
night as well plus direction of packs depth not be for but

1301
02:01:56,100 --> 02:02:02,601
a partnership with the city and the park they had an -

1302
02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:08,100
trails all the things that are that are louder in a park

1303
02:02:08,100 --> 02:02:14,601
and p-1 zone absolutely will be but the caveat not for

1304
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:20,100
commercial use ambassador in partnership with the parks

1305
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:24,100
development and a shared amendment where we provide the

1306
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:25,100
service centers.

1307
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:27,100
>> great. Thank you.

1308
02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:30,100
>> councilor desotelle.

1309
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:31,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1310
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:33,100
>> one of the other commission meetings I had the

1311
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:38,100
joy of meeting with the parks commission I want to bring

1312
02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:43,100
up a motion and I--I don't know if this is timing bringing

1313
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:46,100
it before but one of the things the park commission talked

1314
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:50,801
about is planning for this park right away.

1315
02:02:51,100 --> 02:02:55,100
>> I hope we think about as we move forward with the

1316
02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:59,100
contractual the plans the 671 acres installed we think

1317
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:05,100
about where that might go into parks if we get the plan

1318
02:03:05,100 --> 02:03:11,100
done the park is 3 levels of types of uses. Talked about

1319
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:14,100
kind of the play bylaw heart infrastructure that is the

1320
02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:19,100
stuff that costs a lot of money but still part of parks

1321
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:24,100
that a lot of the nonprofits help to take care of trail

1322
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:30,100
and we can bike and walk and sky and some of the resources

1323
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:34,100
but the trails need to be maintained I think the natural

1324
02:03:34,100 --> 02:03:39,100
areas the ones you want to tiptoe gently on and all the

1325
02:03:39,100 --> 02:03:42,100
lands are very, very important to the city we are so

1326
02:03:42,100 --> 02:03:48,100
fortunate to have 25 percent of our open space and I can

1327
02:03:48,100 --> 02:03:51,100
tell you that studies have been done that the cities don't

1328
02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:55,100
have this don't have the better water quality and the

1329
02:03:55,100 --> 02:04:00,401
habitat and the happiness indexes future that humans need

1330
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:06,100
so need 25 percent n my head to maintain that while

1331
02:04:06,100 --> 02:04:10,801
wearing gently working on the national lands working

1332
02:04:12,100 --> 02:04:14,100
carefully on the trades and working with the engineers and

1333
02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:18,100
really putting the money into those parks, open spaces.

1334
02:04:18,100 --> 02:04:24,100
we need it based on hockey and those kinds of things

1335
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:29,100
places we gather as community. When we go round those

1336
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:35,100
lower 60 some acres we tie that into those spaces and put

1337
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:41,100
them together at as community hopefully that helps with an

1338
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:44,100
understanding where I'm going with the parks.

1339
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:46,100
>> councilor clanaugh.

1340
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:48,100
>> thank you, president nephew. And councilor

1341
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:53,100
desotelle I appreciate that. And the idea of the

1342
02:04:53,100 --> 02:04:58,401
procedures from the 6 is acres investment imposed in a

1343
02:05:01,100 --> 02:05:06,401
awareness that is what we steward and moving forward.

1344
02:05:12,100 --> 02:05:14,100
>> councilor forsman.

1345
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:15,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1346
02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:19,201
>> agree with almost everything you said councilor

1347
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:26,100
desotelle we'd like to go on record with the 37 and a half

1348
02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:30,100
acres the sales had go to the gulf of mexico's that is a

1349
02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:35,100
future dissolution and debate but on the record what was

1350
02:05:35,100 --> 02:05:36,100
said.

1351
02:05:36,100 --> 02:05:41,401
>> thank you, councilor forsman seeing no one in the

1352
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:47,401
queue take a motion to amend to a vote.

1353
02:05:48,100 --> 02:05:52,201
>> clerk, call the roll. By councilor randorf.

1354
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:55,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes.

1355
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:56,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1356
02:05:56,100 --> 02:05:57,100
>> councilor tomanek, yes.

1357
02:05:57,100 --> 02:05:58,100
>> counselor forsman, yes.

1358
02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:00,100
>> councilor randorf, yes.

1359
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:02,100
>> vice president kennedy, yes.

1360
02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:05,601
>> councilor desotelle, yes. And councilor johnson.

1361
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:07,100
>> aye.

1362
02:06:07,100 --> 02:06:11,100
>> the motion to amend presented by councilor

1363
02:06:11,100 --> 02:06:17,100
randorf for 61 passes 9 to zero. And next move on to --

1364
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:21,201
oh, sorry. As amended by councilor randorf.

1365
02:06:24,100 --> 02:06:25,100
>> do you want to vote?

1366
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:31,100
>> no. And so now we'll vote thank you for the

1367
02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:35,201
reminder resolution 7 61 amended by myself and vice

1368
02:06:37,100 --> 02:06:40,100
president kennedy. And the motion to amend presented by

1369
02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:46,100
councilor randorf, I see. Thank you for city staff for

1370
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:54,100
listening.

1371
02:06:54,100 --> 02:06:58,100
>> they put a lot of time and effort into the future

1372
02:06:58,100 --> 02:07:02,100
that involves this properties so thank you to them and

1373
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:07,100
thank you to a those for the good work on the land use

1374
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:10,100
study and thank you to the group that helped to provide

1375
02:07:10,100 --> 02:07:16,100
direction I forgot what their name was and people that

1376
02:07:16,100 --> 02:07:20,100
engaged with the process and had a chance to meet a lot of

1377
02:07:20,100 --> 02:07:26,100
folks at the openhouse and I have a variety of the

1378
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:29,601
opinions and support tonight. Thank you.

1379
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:33,100
>> councilor durrwachter.

1380
02:07:33,100 --> 02:07:35,100
>>

1381
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:39,100
>> thank you, president nephew. And thank you to the

1382
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:44,100
city staff stereo their countless hours working on that at

1383
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:51,100
night and thanks for the good work as well and I do want

1384
02:07:51,100 --> 02:07:57,100
to point out in the land use study that we approved back

1385
02:07:57,100 --> 02:08:01,801
in october had very special sorry specific components.

1386
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:09,401
under heading a the general land use study components

1387
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:15,401
there are 8 bullet points 8 items that the council was

1388
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:24,100
directing was requesting from the city staff to direct and

1389
02:08:24,100 --> 02:08:29,100
make to achieve and one of them was the falls of county

1390
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:35,100
demographics in the school district and the other is short

1391
02:08:37,100 --> 02:08:41,100
term or short term and long term infrastructure options.

1392
02:08:41,100 --> 02:08:46,100
and to the day we don't know what the infrastructure will

1393
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:51,100
cost to create the streets curbs and water and

1394
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:55,801
infrastructure. I understand that the 63 acres may likely

1395
02:08:58,100 --> 02:09:03,401
come forward with an additional reservoirs it is unclear

1396
02:09:06,100 --> 02:09:09,100
what that costs the city and taxpayers I know currently

1397
02:09:09,100 --> 02:09:15,100
the city was doing on behalf of the reservoirs costing

1398
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:21,801
$20 million for lodge overdue infrastructure and rehab and

1399
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:27,100
in addition to I know that our school district is built

1400
02:09:27,100 --> 02:09:33,100
our schools are overflowing so city staff works to bring

1401
02:09:34,100 --> 02:09:39,100
forward housing developments that are much needed I hope

1402
02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:44,100
the city the members the community members of the city

1403
02:09:44,100 --> 02:09:48,801
will receive concrete answers on what the infrastructure

1404
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:54,100
will cost our taxpayer and how the school system can

1405
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:57,100
handle additional students. Thank you.

1406
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:01,100
>> councilor johnson.

1407
02:10:01,100 --> 02:10:05,100
>> thank you, president nephew. And I just want to

1408
02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:10,100
echo kind of my appreciation for all the city staff. You

1409
02:10:10,100 --> 02:10:15,100
are attorneys who directed many of the amendments and also

1410
02:10:15,100 --> 02:10:20,100
our consultants and thinking around the balance of harmony

1411
02:10:20,100 --> 02:10:26,100
of the land use study coming before us and also kind of

1412
02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:30,801
scheduling the possibility there in the housing and

1413
02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:36,100
natural resources and distribution in that area. So I

1414
02:10:36,100 --> 02:10:39,100
just thank you, to all those who participated in the

1415
02:10:39,100 --> 02:10:43,100
process and being part that have it and making 12 come

1416
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:47,201
forward tonight. Thank you. Councilor johnson and

1417
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:52,100
councilor clanaugh and councilor johnson. We need to have

1418
02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:57,100
you on screen. You're facing - and councilor clanaugh.

1419
02:10:57,100 --> 02:10:58,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1420
02:10:58,100 --> 02:11:01,100
>> thank you to everyone mentioned by the council

1421
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:05,801
colleagues. Thank you, especially in the citizenry for

1422
02:11:09,100 --> 02:11:13,100
your tenacious relationship, the common good. And thank

1423
02:11:13,100 --> 02:11:18,100
you, for helping, holding us accountable to clarify a

1424
02:11:18,100 --> 02:11:24,100
process that has been turbulent and count on you to do the

1425
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:28,801
same as we move forward and councilor tomanek.

1426
02:11:31,100 --> 02:11:33,100
>> thank you, president nephew. I have a question

1427
02:11:33,100 --> 02:11:37,100
about how we have take into consideration the amount of

1428
02:11:37,100 --> 02:11:40,100
money that parks will need to maintain this park?

1429
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:45,401
>> parks are already in previous slim but very, very

1430
02:11:46,100 --> 02:11:53,801
slim in their budget and not able to pass a ref dump and

1431
02:11:56,100 --> 02:12:00,100
as far as taking care of this more, more land and

1432
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:03,100
unfortunately machine will answer that not a question for

1433
02:12:03,100 --> 02:12:04,100
tonight but a consideration.

1434
02:12:04,100 --> 02:12:07,601
>> all right. Thank you councilor tomanek.

1435
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:12,100
>> seeing none, with companions on that resolution

1436
02:12:12,100 --> 02:12:18,601
751 call a voice vote but like to extend my gratitude to

1437
02:12:21,100 --> 02:12:27,100
staff and for myself counselor this is a important one.

1438
02:12:27,100 --> 02:12:31,100
and was challenging we really stepped up to the task and

1439
02:12:31,100 --> 02:12:38,100
got here and also I think that is a good process so thank

1440
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:40,100
you for that as well and the community for everyone that

1441
02:12:40,100 --> 02:12:43,100
signed up and participated in the process. Thank you.

1442
02:12:43,100 --> 02:12:45,100
>> for that, well.

1443
02:12:45,100 --> 02:12:47,100
>> and --

1444
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:49,100
>> councilor clanaugh, yes. And councilor desotelle,

1445
02:12:49,100 --> 02:12:51,100
aye.

1446
02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:53,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1447
02:12:53,100 --> 02:12:55,100
>> counselor forsman, yes.

1448
02:12:55,100 --> 02:12:57,100
>> councilor randorf, yes.

1449
02:12:57,100 --> 02:12:58,100
>> vice president kennedy, yes.

1450
02:12:58,100 --> 02:13:00,100
>> president nephew, yes.

1451
02:13:00,100 --> 02:13:02,100
>> councilor johnson, yes.

1452
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:06,801
>> resolution 7 61 as amended by vote of myself and

1453
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:12,100
vice president kennedy. And then also another amendment

1454
02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:18,601
by councilor randorf passes 9 to zero and next move on to

1455
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:25,100
counselor forsman.

1456
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:30,100
>> resolutions tabled

1457
02:13:30,100 --> 02:13:31,100
24. 26-0723

1458
02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:32,100
by councilor forsman (personnel)

1459
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:33,100
resolution confirming the appointment of brianna gunderson

1460
02:13:33,100 --> 02:13:34,100
to the duluth entertainment and convention center

1461
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:35,100
authority. Plaque motion to remove this in the table.

1462
02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:37,100
>> and motion and seconded by councilor randorf.

1463
02:13:37,100 --> 02:13:38,100
>> all in favor, say "aye."

1464
02:13:38,100 --> 02:13:39,100
>> aye.

1465
02:13:39,100 --> 02:13:43,100
>> I'm sorry; correct discussion and we need to call

1466
02:13:43,100 --> 02:13:44,100
the roll a discussion.

1467
02:13:44,100 --> 02:13:45,100
>> no discussion.

1468
02:13:45,100 --> 02:13:46,100
>> motion.

1469
02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:48,100
>>

1470
02:13:48,100 --> 02:13:49,100
>> clerk, call the roll. Councilor clanaugh, yes.

1471
02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:51,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes.

1472
02:13:52,100 --> 02:13:53,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1473
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:55,100
>> councilor tomanek, yes.

1474
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:57,100
>> counselor forsman, yes.

1475
02:13:58,100 --> 02:14:00,100
>> councilor randorf, aye.

1476
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:03,100
>> vice president kennedy.

1477
02:14:03,100 --> 02:14:05,100
>> president nephew.

1478
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:09,601
>> councilor johnson resolution 72 that is removed 9

1479
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:12,100
to zero.

1480
02:14:12,100 --> 02:14:15,601
>> thank you, president tomanek move approval.

1481
02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:20,201
>> moved by councilor forsman and second. Any

1482
02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:25,601
questions? On the rise 723 seeing none.

1483
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:28,100
>> clerk, call the roll. And councilor clanaugh, yes.

1484
02:14:28,100 --> 02:14:30,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes.

1485
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:33,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1486
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:34,100
>> counselor forsman, yes.

1487
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:36,100
>> councilor randorf, yes.

1488
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:37,100
>> vice president kennedy, yes.

1489
02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:38,100
>> president nephew, yes.

1490
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:40,100
>> councilor johnson, aye.

1491
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:47,801
>> resolution 723 passes with a vote 9 to zero and

1492
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:52,100
counselor forsman.

1493
02:14:55,100 --> 02:14:56,100
>> 25. 26-0724 resolution confirming the appointment

1494
02:14:56,100 --> 02:15:00,100
of ginka tarnowski to the sanitary sewer board of the

1495
02:15:00,100 --> 02:15:01,100
western lake superior sanitary district. I move to approve

1496
02:15:01,100 --> 02:15:04,100
to remove that from the table.

1497
02:15:04,100 --> 02:15:07,601
>> by counselor forsman and e-cigarettes and.

1498
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:10,100
>> clerk, call the roll. Councilor clanaugh and, yes.

1499
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:12,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes.

1500
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:13,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1501
02:15:13,100 --> 02:15:15,100
>> councilor tomanek, yes.

1502
02:15:15,100 --> 02:15:16,100
>> councilor forsman, yes.

1503
02:15:16,100 --> 02:15:18,100
>> councilor johnson sorry.

1504
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:21,100
>> aye.

1505
02:15:22,100 --> 02:15:26,201
>> vice president kennedy and president nephew, aye.

1506
02:15:28,100 --> 02:15:32,100
>> and resolution 724 is removed from the table.

1507
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:36,100
>> counselor forsman motion by counselor forsman do

1508
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:39,100
I hear a second? And by councilor randorf any discussion

1509
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:41,100
on the resolution 724?

1510
02:15:42,100 --> 02:15:44,100
>> seeing none.

1511
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:47,100
>> clerk, call the roll. Councilor clanaugh, yes. And

1512
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:48,100
councilor desotelle, yes.

1513
02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:50,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1514
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:52,100
>> counselor forsman, yes.

1515
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:55,100
>> councilor randorf, yes.

1516
02:15:55,100 --> 02:15:56,100
>> vice president kennedy, yes.

1517
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:58,100
>> president nephew, yes.

1518
02:15:58,100 --> 02:16:00,100
>> councilor johnson, aye.

1519
02:16:00,100 --> 02:16:03,601
>> resolution 724 passes 9 to zero and counselor

1520
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:06,100
forsman.

1521
02:16:06,100 --> 02:16:08,100
>> one more.

1522
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:09,100
>> 25. 26-0724 resolution confirming the appointment

1523
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:12,100
of ginka tarnowski to the sanitary sewer board of the

1524
02:16:12,100 --> 02:16:13,100
western lake superior sanitary district. Removal to remove

1525
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:14,100
from the table.

1526
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:18,801
>> second and seconded by councilor tomanek and I

1527
02:16:19,100 --> 02:16:24,100
heard - it is motions to remove from the table and

1528
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:25,100
discussion on it.

1529
02:16:25,100 --> 02:16:26,100
>>

1530
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:27,100
>> clerk, call the roll.

1531
02:16:27,100 --> 02:16:28,100
>> councilor clanaugh, yes.

1532
02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:29,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes.

1533
02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:31,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1534
02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:32,100
>> councilor tomanek, yes.

1535
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:34,100
>> counselor forsman, aye.

1536
02:16:36,100 --> 02:16:37,100
>> councilor randorf, yes.

1537
02:16:37,100 --> 02:16:38,100
>> vice president kennedy, yes.

1538
02:16:38,100 --> 02:16:40,100
>> president nephew, yes.

1539
02:16:42,100 --> 02:16:45,100
>> councilor johnson resolution is removed from the

1540
02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:49,100
table a counselor forsman motion by counselor forsman do I

1541
02:16:49,100 --> 02:16:50,100
hear a second?

1542
02:16:50,100 --> 02:16:51,100
>> seconded by councilor randorf.

1543
02:16:51,100 --> 02:16:53,100
>> councilor durrwachter and.

1544
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:58,201
>> thank you, president nephew.. Does the interviews

1545
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:00,100
-

1546
02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:02,401
>> thank you, president nephew.

1547
02:17:06,100 --> 02:17:09,100
>> councilmember essex no, we did not.

1548
02:17:09,100 --> 02:17:13,100
>> but I believe we had the applicants materials

1549
02:17:13,100 --> 02:17:16,100
that are (unintelligible) and here for review. Thank you.

1550
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:18,100
>> I do have follow-up.

1551
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:22,801
>> I know thereby specific requirements for the board

1552
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:27,100
of appeals and justifications does that person I guess my

1553
02:17:27,100 --> 02:17:31,201
question which specification does this person have?

1554
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:38,601
>> I have a friendly if you like me to read them.

1555
02:17:39,100 --> 02:17:42,601
>> thank you, president nephew. And councilor

1556
02:17:45,100 --> 02:17:50,100
durrwachter I'd like have to look to see right now I can

1557
02:17:50,100 --> 02:17:55,100
tell with that is the two removed the finance and the

1558
02:17:55,100 --> 02:17:59,100
maintenance supplies I--I don't know any specifics on

1559
02:17:59,100 --> 02:18:00,100
those.

1560
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:04,100
>> not included in the resolution. I'll have the

1561
02:18:04,100 --> 02:18:09,100
application but I'm not sure and I don't remember.

1562
02:18:09,100 --> 02:18:12,601
>> are you looking for counselor forsman.

1563
02:18:14,100 --> 02:18:16,100
>> so -

1564
02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:19,100
[off mic.]

1565
02:18:22,100 --> 02:18:27,100
>> I personally would like to put this back on the

1566
02:18:27,100 --> 02:18:30,100
table until we have this information if you like?

1567
02:18:30,100 --> 02:18:37,100
>> we can that board is very tight in terms of - and

1568
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:41,100
been on the table for the last minute I prefer to have the

1569
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:46,100
questions I can get an answer for you I guess.

1570
02:18:46,100 --> 02:18:48,100
>> counselor forsman.

1571
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:54,100
>> maybe I respect that choice and other

1572
02:18:54,100 --> 02:18:59,100
alternatives. We have the ability to look for correction

1573
02:18:59,100 --> 02:19:04,100
at the next meeting if we find out. Did you -

1574
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:07,100
(unintelligible) and this gentleman meets the requirements

1575
02:19:07,100 --> 02:19:10,100
as outlined in the building code.

1576
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:11,100
>> yes. I am.

1577
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:13,100
>> okay.

1578
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:15,100
>> all right. Thank you.

1579
02:19:15,100 --> 02:19:19,801
>> so we are making a motion to table.

1580
02:19:20,100 --> 02:19:22,100
>> I motion to table.

1581
02:19:22,100 --> 02:19:23,100
>> we have motion to table resolution 725. Do I have

1582
02:19:23,100 --> 02:19:25,100
a second?

1583
02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:32,100
>> yes and e-cigarettes by councilor clanaugh and.

1584
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:33,100
>> clerk, call the roll.

1585
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:35,100
>> councilor clanaugh, yes.

1586
02:19:36,100 --> 02:19:39,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes. E, aye.

1587
02:19:39,100 --> 02:19:40,100
>>

1588
02:19:40,100 --> 02:19:41,100
>> councilor durrwachter, yes.

1589
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:45,201
>> counselor forsman no and councilor randorf, no.

1590
02:19:48,100 --> 02:19:50,100
>> vice president kennedy, no.

1591
02:19:50,100 --> 02:19:54,201
>> president nephew, no. And councilor johnson no

1592
02:19:55,100 --> 02:19:59,801
and motion to table resolution 725 failed and vice

1593
02:20:02,100 --> 02:20:03,100
president kennedy.

1594
02:20:03,100 --> 02:20:04,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1595
02:20:04,100 --> 02:20:09,100
>> I do want to direct council to item number it

1596
02:20:09,100 --> 02:20:12,100
thirty I believe moving forward.

1597
02:20:12,100 --> 02:20:14,100
>> building.

1598
02:20:16,100 --> 02:20:17,100
>> do you solemnly swear or affirm the responses and

1599
02:20:17,100 --> 02:20:18,100
statements made will be the whole truth and nothing but

1600
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:20,100
the truth? Is actually an ordinance to decrease the number

1601
02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:24,100
so I think that is really for that we vote to that but I

1602
02:20:24,100 --> 02:20:29,100
said to direct you to that. I believe the staff has been

1603
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:34,100
working to understand that a little bit better who it

1604
02:20:34,100 --> 02:20:37,100
needs to be on the board I guess the person to be

1605
02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:41,100
considered as part of this ordinance is done as well.

1606
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:43,100
>> thank you.

1607
02:20:44,100 --> 02:20:46,401
>> seeing none, on resolution 725.

1608
02:20:48,100 --> 02:20:49,100
>> clerk, call the roll.

1609
02:20:49,100 --> 02:20:50,100
>> councilor clanaugh, no.

1610
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:52,100
>> councilor desotelle, aye.

1611
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:56,100
>> councilor durrwachter, no.

1612
02:20:56,100 --> 02:20:58,100
>> councilor tomanek, aye.

1613
02:20:58,100 --> 02:21:00,100
>> councilor kennedy, aye.

1614
02:21:00,100 --> 02:21:01,100
>> --

1615
02:21:01,100 --> 02:21:04,100
>> councilor randorf, yes. A vice president kennedy,

1616
02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:05,100
yes.

1617
02:21:05,100 --> 02:21:07,100
>> president nephew, aye.

1618
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:09,100
>> councilor johnson, aye.

1619
02:21:09,100 --> 02:21:13,201
>> and resolution 725 passes 7 to two. And next

1620
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:20,100
going on to ordinances to be -- the following entitled

1621
02:21:22,100 --> 02:21:23,100
residential rural 1 (rr-1) to park & open space (p-1).

1622
02:21:23,100 --> 02:21:24,100
clerk.

1623
02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:26,100
>>

1624
02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:42,100
>> 28. 26-038 an ordinance amending chapters 29 and

1625
02:21:42,100 --> 02:21:48,601
29a of the duluth city code to regulate short term rental

1626
02:21:54,100 --> 02:21:55,100
licensing and permitting

1627
02:21:55,100 --> 02:21:56,100
>> 29. 26-036 by vice president kennedy (committee of

1628
02:21:56,100 --> 02:21:57,100
the whole)

1629
02:21:57,100 --> 02:21:58,100
an ordinance amending chapter ii, section 4, of the duluth

1630
02:21:58,100 --> 02:22:02,201
home rule charter, 1912, as amended, pertaining vacancies

1631
02:22:07,100 --> 02:22:08,100
of mayor and councilor.

1632
02:22:08,100 --> 02:22:13,100
>> thank you and I would like to address ordinance 38

1633
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:18,401
and members of parkland community I discussed I know

1634
02:22:20,100 --> 02:22:23,100
councilor tomanek had concerns and we're going to be

1635
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:28,100
drafting a new resolution to do that and check in and hold

1636
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:34,100
on with the evaluation and also director van tassel that

1637
02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:43,100
one should be coming at at new meeting we'll not be voting

1638
02:22:43,100 --> 02:22:49,100
on that tonight but that is work to be kind of to come and

1639
02:22:49,100 --> 02:22:54,100
with that, we'll move on for the I'm sorry vice president

1640
02:22:54,100 --> 02:22:55,100
kennedy.

1641
02:22:55,100 --> 02:22:59,100
>> thank you on that comment that you had made

1642
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:03,801
regarding short-term rentals a question for. Attorney lear

1643
02:23:04,100 --> 02:23:07,100
but also be the first reading?

1644
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:10,100
>> will be a continued resolution and will be

1645
02:23:10,100 --> 02:23:12,401
changes to the ordinance.

1646
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:15,100
>> okay. Thank you.

1647
02:23:15,100 --> 02:23:19,100
all right. Next we will move on to.

1648
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:23,801
>> the following entitled ordinances are to be read

1649
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:32,100
appeal board to seven members.

1650
02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:35,100
>> so moved do I have a second?

1651
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:38,100
and seconded by counselor forsman and councilor

1652
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:39,100
durrwachter.

1653
02:23:39,100 --> 02:23:40,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1654
02:23:40,100 --> 02:23:44,100
>> we are being asked for a ordinances that will

1655
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:49,100
reduce of members of the public members required on the

1656
02:23:49,100 --> 02:23:52,100
board of appeals from 9 members to 7 the argument for

1657
02:23:52,100 --> 02:23:57,100
people to serve on the board that means it is difficult to

1658
02:23:57,100 --> 02:24:02,100
meet quorum and other boards are 7 members. And the

1659
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:06,100
residents for this board are specifying and in chapter ten

1660
02:24:06,100 --> 02:24:12,100
of the city code. And once specific requirement for having

1661
02:24:12,100 --> 02:24:17,100
and finance background and another one is maybe to have a

1662
02:24:17,100 --> 02:24:21,100
background as rentals architect and the other one a

1663
02:24:21,100 --> 02:24:25,201
registered engineer and building construction designer and

1664
02:24:26,100 --> 02:24:31,401
other qualification they need to have conduct business in

1665
02:24:33,100 --> 02:24:35,100
residential or commercial building construction and the

1666
02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:41,100
next one is voting materials by a then two of them are

1667
02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:46,100
subsequent sensory and there are two members of this

1668
02:24:46,100 --> 02:24:49,100
board, as well as, one of the fire chief that is for

1669
02:24:49,100 --> 02:24:54,100
voting rights and the other is the building official

1670
02:24:54,100 --> 02:25:00,601
actions as cfo not have voting rights but as secretary. On

1671
02:25:01,100 --> 02:25:06,401
this board we specifics encourage only 8 voting members at

1672
02:25:08,100 --> 02:25:12,100
that time and let's thinks the reduction of medical

1673
02:25:12,100 --> 02:25:15,100
examiner by 6 members will get to vote to continue with

1674
02:25:15,100 --> 02:25:19,201
the list requirement specific expertise and justifiable

1675
02:25:23,100 --> 02:25:27,801
and pertinent level of segment we slashed this

1676
02:25:29,100 --> 02:25:33,801
administration over the 2 years and not filling vacations.

1677
02:25:36,100 --> 02:25:40,100
this week is the first time I heard the manipulates pursue

1678
02:25:40,100 --> 02:25:45,100
filling any vacancies at all and nothing has been

1679
02:25:45,100 --> 02:25:49,100
fountains more on the social media bridge we're seeking

1680
02:25:49,100 --> 02:25:53,801
applicants for this role I personally know several

1681
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:57,100
qualified people want to be on the boards it is difficult

1682
02:25:57,100 --> 02:26:01,801
to understand the dramatic conclusion to recuse the

1683
02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:09,201
members and tattoo have a - to the point a former expert

1684
02:26:12,100 --> 02:26:17,100
like in the changes to a bull in a china shop seems the

1685
02:26:17,100 --> 02:26:21,100
community should be alarmed the mayor is teaming the

1686
02:26:21,100 --> 02:26:26,100
reduce of number of periods of time expert should the

1687
02:26:26,100 --> 02:26:31,401
board of appeals become necessary in the near future.

1688
02:26:32,100 --> 02:26:36,100
additionally, many of the most contentious issues the

1689
02:26:36,100 --> 02:26:40,801
council has experienced brought speakers to the council

1690
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:46,401
chambers to requiring an overflow room standard for the

1691
02:26:48,100 --> 02:26:49,100
zoning change and proposal.

1692
02:26:49,100 --> 02:26:52,601
>> recent proposal changes combined with the

1693
02:26:55,100 --> 02:27:00,401
questioning for this by speakers have greatly eroded the

1694
02:27:01,100 --> 02:27:06,100
public's trust. And in december is a premature lester

1695
02:27:06,100 --> 02:27:09,100
park before the results of land use study links together

1696
02:27:09,100 --> 02:27:15,100
with unrelated topics has eroded the trust and the judge

1697
02:27:18,100 --> 02:27:23,100
ordered the clerk to count and validate an ordinance that

1698
02:27:23,100 --> 02:27:28,100
erodes the public's trust and our neighbors in herman town

1699
02:27:28,100 --> 02:27:34,601
is really from the event rezoned land in the radar to

1700
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:39,100
bring the majority on either of the politically --

1701
02:27:39,100 --> 02:27:44,100
political isle don't want, and including and tax break for

1702
02:27:44,100 --> 02:27:50,100
a million dollar company. I think the public's trust of

1703
02:27:51,100 --> 02:27:55,100
the public officials is at an all time low and analysis.

1704
02:27:55,100 --> 02:28:00,100
the number of members on all the 22 regional authority

1705
02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:04,100
commissioners and half of existing boards contain 9 member

1706
02:28:04,100 --> 02:28:10,100
or more. And in fact, one, two of them require 11 members.

1707
02:28:10,100 --> 02:28:13,100
and it is difficult to understand why this particular

1708
02:28:13,100 --> 02:28:19,100
board building appeals board is the board that was singled

1709
02:28:19,100 --> 02:28:25,100
out for a change in reduction of hours. And reducing the

1710
02:28:25,100 --> 02:28:30,100
members of the board makes it easier to control. Why

1711
02:28:30,100 --> 02:28:34,801
would this mayoral administration allocate to change the

1712
02:28:36,100 --> 02:28:39,100
board of appeals at this time? Why would that that

1713
02:28:39,100 --> 02:28:43,100
administration go up before the board in 12 of the 22

1714
02:28:43,100 --> 02:28:48,100
boards have the same dilemma and the public utilities

1715
02:28:48,100 --> 02:28:53,100
commission? For instance has a hard time and I happened

1716
02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:58,100
to know and qualified who is sitting in the queue has been

1717
02:28:58,100 --> 02:29:02,100
sitting in the queue for 3 months awaiting to be put on

1718
02:29:02,100 --> 02:29:07,100
the agenda to approve for him to join. The planning

1719
02:29:07,100 --> 02:29:10,100
commission barely had a quorum at the last meeting yet

1720
02:29:10,100 --> 02:29:15,100
have a board of 9 members. It is difficult to meet a

1721
02:29:15,100 --> 02:29:19,100
quorum who no matter whether our board members will have

1722
02:29:19,100 --> 02:29:25,100
vacancies the public arts commission has a decision to the

1723
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:31,401
vacancy to pursue a concerted effort to utilities. The

1724
02:29:33,100 --> 02:29:37,100
media at the modifications fingerprints to search for

1725
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:40,100
applicants for all boards of authorities and commission

1726
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:45,401
meetings the best applicants are selected to serve the

1727
02:29:46,100 --> 02:29:49,100
community. For those reasons. I can't vote for this

1728
02:29:49,100 --> 02:29:53,100
ordinance. And I urge my fellow councilors to vote no.

1729
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:55,100
>> councilor clanaugh.

1730
02:29:57,100 --> 02:30:00,601
>> I'm sorry administration -- administrator go

1731
02:30:03,100 --> 02:30:04,100
ahead.

1732
02:30:04,100 --> 02:30:05,100
>> thank you, president nephew. And councilor

1733
02:30:05,100 --> 02:30:08,100
durrwachter I want to point that out this was actually a

1734
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:13,401
recommendation from the building and pelosi board I'll and

1735
02:30:15,100 --> 02:30:20,100
is a on 34 board commissions we have a position on the

1736
02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:25,100
website to take an application and that will be for

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02:30:25,100 --> 02:30:29,100
whoever is work or work to and come to you with interviews

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02:30:29,100 --> 02:30:33,201
addressed authority seeks other intensify processes. I

1739
02:30:34,100 --> 02:30:38,100
will say that is a robust time commitment and we do it in

1740
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:43,401
the most efficient way potential and along are everything

1741
02:30:44,100 --> 02:30:47,100
else this was in line with other commissions and was

1742
02:30:47,100 --> 02:30:50,100
recommended by the building board.

1743
02:30:51,100 --> 02:30:52,100
>> thank you, councilor clanaugh

1744
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:56,801
>> tinge for the listening and welcome luke medis

1745
02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:17,100
with the growing focus on the housing need it be important

1746
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:21,100
for that permitting and construction our complex process

1747
02:31:21,100 --> 02:31:26,100
needs to be met and this board relies on the expertise for

1748
02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:30,100
appeals that is for a successful completion of projects

1749
02:31:30,100 --> 02:31:34,801
while protecting the public interest by redistricting the

1750
02:31:35,100 --> 02:31:39,100
projects for problematic aspects. And the board advise

1751
02:31:39,100 --> 02:31:44,401
and support of enterprises for the experience as they

1752
02:31:45,100 --> 02:31:50,100
operate in our city. Is it in the public interest to

1753
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:55,100
reduce of membership of this board and eliminate areas of

1754
02:31:55,100 --> 02:31:57,100
finance and building materials?

1755
02:31:57,100 --> 02:32:03,100
>> I would propose it is isn't and not propose those

1756
02:32:05,100 --> 02:32:09,100
I appreciate the challenging time for the board members

1757
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:15,100
and the consistency and I wonder wherewith we support the

1758
02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:20,100
board members for example, does the city have's perform

1759
02:32:20,100 --> 02:32:24,201
groups in which to have builders association

1760
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:30,401
infrastructure and one additionally, can be done to boost

1761
02:32:31,100 --> 02:32:35,100
this outreach and collect the membership roles for other

1762
02:32:35,100 --> 02:32:40,100
boards and commissions? And how does the city promote the

1763
02:32:40,100 --> 02:32:44,801
boards and commissions, as well as, robust participation

1764
02:32:47,100 --> 02:32:52,100
I'm poodles by the boards struggles to have membership.

1765
02:32:52,100 --> 02:32:56,100
like many boards and commissions benefits in addition to

1766
02:32:56,100 --> 02:33:01,100
the this comes through the public service. Two benefits

1767
02:33:01,100 --> 02:33:04,100
come to mind with that board the opportunity for knowledge

1768
02:33:04,100 --> 02:33:08,201
development and for professional networking. Each appeal

1769
02:33:09,100 --> 02:33:14,100
has a case board members analysis given situations for

1770
02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:19,100
their filters and have a solution. Anyone participating on

1771
02:33:19,100 --> 02:33:24,401
the board has opportunities to develop little finding of

1772
02:33:25,100 --> 02:33:29,100
what constituents a project, as well as, learn about what

1773
02:33:29,100 --> 02:33:32,100
weaknesses the projects and in addition to this

1774
02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:35,100
professional development aspect the building board of

1775
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:38,100
appeals provides an excellent opportunity to network and

1776
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:43,401
expand portfolio of the context and seems the robust

1777
02:33:45,100 --> 02:33:49,100
promotion will support others to building creativity and

1778
02:33:49,100 --> 02:33:53,100
professionals financial and other related people with

1779
02:33:53,100 --> 02:33:58,401
results in the surplus for inner fentanyl vacancies arises

1780
02:34:03,100 --> 02:34:08,100
perhaps we can boost it finding ways for others and staff

1781
02:34:08,100 --> 02:34:11,100
to work with each other and inviting public participation

1782
02:34:11,100 --> 02:34:13,401
on this. Councilor desotelle.

1783
02:34:19,100 --> 02:34:24,100
>> I was hoping to ask a question here being a newer

1784
02:34:24,100 --> 02:34:29,401
counselor and image the previous counselor had worked on

1785
02:34:30,100 --> 02:34:33,100
commission and numbers I'm wording that is part of the

1786
02:34:33,100 --> 02:34:37,100
recommendations that came out with work that she did last

1787
02:34:37,100 --> 02:34:38,100
year?

1788
02:34:38,100 --> 02:34:42,201
>> president nephew and councilor desotelle I'm not

1789
02:34:43,100 --> 02:34:48,100
sure if it carve out in the previous work or not I believe

1790
02:34:48,100 --> 02:34:51,100
this is surplus more recently.

1791
02:34:51,100 --> 02:34:53,100
>> okay.

1792
02:34:53,100 --> 02:34:54,100
>> vice president kennedy.

1793
02:34:54,100 --> 02:34:56,100
>> thank you, president nephew.

1794
02:34:56,100 --> 02:35:01,100
>> I guess I can answer some of the questions I was

1795
02:35:01,100 --> 02:35:05,100
also part of the board commissions and part of

1796
02:35:05,100 --> 02:35:09,100
recommendations is that we should lower the number of

1797
02:35:09,100 --> 02:35:14,100
several of the boards and commissions and take a more

1798
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:18,100
deliberate approach to that I'm guessing one of the boards

1799
02:35:18,100 --> 02:35:23,100
that all are well and needs to be as far as a smaller

1800
02:35:23,100 --> 02:35:27,100
number to get at aquarium and have a lot of people we

1801
02:35:27,100 --> 02:35:29,100
don't have a lot of people

1802
02:35:29,100 --> 02:35:33,100
serving well, if the roles not in the communities and not

1803
02:35:33,100 --> 02:35:37,100
in the boards and complies. There are lots of people

1804
02:35:37,100 --> 02:35:39,100
wiling and

1805
02:35:39,100 --> 02:35:44,100
performing able to do this so we see that as as change in

1806
02:35:44,100 --> 02:35:49,100
some of the generation now and hopefully they're hearing

1807
02:35:49,100 --> 02:35:53,100
this point to step up and don't serve on boards and

1808
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:59,100
commission we don't have a lot of boards on the nonprofits

1809
02:35:59,100 --> 02:36:05,100
people in front of a change and volunteerism first years

1810
02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:08,100
ago but all the boards and commissions will have a

1811
02:36:08,100 --> 02:36:13,100
potential for all of them to decrease the numbers.

1812
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:14,100
>> and.

1813
02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:17,100
>> thank you, president nephew. To amy martin

1814
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:21,100
question a discussion about significant board positioned

1815
02:36:21,100 --> 02:36:26,401
that the municipalities probably not one we're looking as

1816
02:36:27,100 --> 02:36:31,100
down sizing but the column has gained the discussion and

1817
02:36:31,100 --> 02:36:36,100
with our choices eliminating the commissions today but I

1818
02:36:36,100 --> 02:36:41,100
am willing to center that conversation I think we, you

1819
02:36:41,100 --> 02:36:46,100
know, councilor did good work on and we're not scratching

1820
02:36:46,100 --> 02:36:51,401
the surface changing how we our boards and commissions.

1821
02:36:52,100 --> 02:36:56,100
>> thank you, councilor forsman and with that, we'll

1822
02:36:56,100 --> 02:37:00,100
take this for a roll call and.

1823
02:37:00,100 --> 02:37:01,100
>> clerk, call the roll.

1824
02:37:01,100 --> 02:37:02,100
>> councilor clanaugh, no.

1825
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:04,100
>> councilor desotelle, yes.

1826
02:37:04,100 --> 02:37:06,100
>> councilor durrwachter, no.

1827
02:37:06,100 --> 02:37:07,100
>> councilor tomanek, yes.

1828
02:37:07,100 --> 02:37:10,601
>> counselor forsman, yes. And councilor randorf,

1829
02:37:14,100 --> 02:37:15,100
yes.

1830
02:37:15,100 --> 02:37:18,100
>> vice president kennedy yes and councilor johnson.

1831
02:37:18,100 --> 02:37:22,801
>> ordinance 37 passes 7 to two and with that, we're

1832
02:37:23,100 --> 02:37:27,801
on to councilor/administration and questions and comments.

1833
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:36,100
seeing none, motion to adjourn.

1834
02:37:36,100 --> 02:37:37,100
>> motion.

1835
02:37:37,100 --> 02:37:42,401
>> moved by counselor forsman and second - have a

1836
02:37:46,327 --> 02:37:48,327
great night.