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the minutes so we have before us the

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lands all right Mr Robertson you've got

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start yeah good morning chair board

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members uh thank you for the opportunity

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to speak today my name is John Robertson

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Basin society and wish to speak in

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support of the resolution for the aicc

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lands review of 2019 and the need to act

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the review particularly those submitted

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cvrd I would like to start by

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emphasizing the importance of sustaining

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provided by mature forest in the Upland

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regions of our watersheds these natural

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systems provide quality water resources

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at rates and times that benefit the

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communities that rely on them the short

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rotation clear-cut civil culture system

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managed Forest lands systematically

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hydrologic cycle in our

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disrupted the regulatory controls on

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delivered by the managed Forest Council

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an independent provincial agency with no

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management practices on these lands the

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regulations that guide their work are

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diminished and ineffective when when

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held against the existing regulations

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governing Forest practices on public

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lands particularly with respect to

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rates the problems associated with the

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private managed Forest Land Act are well

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documented in the responses to the 2019

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provincial review as well as in the

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multitude of resolutions to the Avic and

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the ubcm that have come before this one

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establishment of ecosystem based Water

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spectrum of land ownership and set

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conservation and restoration of a

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cycle the shaigan Basin Society has such

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a plan for the shaigan Watershed and the

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work of the kilo Watershed working group

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is a landmark effort in producing a

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truly Community generated plan Regional

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governments must gain access to

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regulatory oversight of the private

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based decisions and is pursuing

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and its management deficits this places

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communities as the private managed

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local interests and concerns for

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thank you chair uh Bernard HJ

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Force Land Act to better protect the

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therein and to have also to have better

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point out again that the Canada's Forest

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coniferous trees while eliminating

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urge The Province to change all Leg

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legislation that governs Forest Harvest

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to have better protection of the health

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of our forest and thus of our water

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sheds thank you for your

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attention great thank you so I believe

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delegations I'd like to invite uh Julia

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Vancouver Island University to present

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on the the one-year performance report

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2024 great thank you chair and directors

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summary of our activities for 2024

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presentation right yeah we can see it

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about that um so uh I just wanted to say

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administrator um and we're grateful for

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mentioned last year uh we've done a lot

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of Engagement work and I'd like to share

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uh what we'll be doing next uh so one of

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the uh projects that we were working on

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was to uh complete the development of

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some micr credentials and deliver them

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to the community so the first micr

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credential um that we delivered uh in

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2024 was on soils uh we had 26 students

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and it ran uh from September to October

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and there were a total of nine classes

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um we had two field days and they were

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at the Sandown Center for regenerative

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agriculture and tatlo Road farm and the

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Nimo food share and so we have a lot of

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local experts so um the students were

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thrilled with these um Field Days even

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though it was during an atmospheric

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River um and uh you can see one of the

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students wrote To Me uh in an email

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after the course and said it was

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fabulous I cannot share all the ways you

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will change the way I farm but I can say

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that the farm will be better for having

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for me having had this opportunity so it

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was a really positive um pilot of this

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course uh we've completed the review and

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the edits of the

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pilot the next course was on agory

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Colley um so we had 15 students complete

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this course and it ran through November

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to December

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um we also had the same format we had uh

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nine classes two of them were Field Days

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um and we spent time at David Adams Farm

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in Glenora Lockwood Farms the Estuary in

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couch of bay Ken Elliot's restoration

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nursery and the Eco Village in shanigan

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Lake um so again there was very positive

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feedback for the field days uh where

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they could um bring the online learning

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uh and and see some real life

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applications um um we also had uh a

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guest Thomas mson join us um and I

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forgot to mention the soils course the

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development was funded by The Innovation

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Grant from CWC uh and the agroecology

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course development was funded by the

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Ministry of postsecondary Education and

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future

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skills hey Miss fiser for your

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presentation did you want to move

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through the slides we're still on the

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the first slide right

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now oh no I am so sorry thank you for

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letting

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me that

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frustrating okay I know I this in as

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well I'm not sure if someone is able to

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help with that um I haven't used this

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WebEx meeting platform um so

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Julia what so are you wear using um like

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Google Slides or what's the

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software um it's it's a PowerPoint

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presentation I think it's FB try pushing

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F5 see what

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happens is that

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working no I thought it was I could be

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wrong for presenter mode let me go or

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a few slideshow or there slideshow at

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the top yeah a few at the top and

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slideshow yeah like I don't think it's

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to do with your sharing you're sharing

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correctly just your

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VI there ah then use the space bar and

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push your space bar yeah there you go

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yeah you seeing the other slides yeah we

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are yeah okay okay thanks for letting me

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know I'm glad I didn't get through it

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all um before so here's a photo um of

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the soils course where everyone's in the

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atmospheric River um then here um we're

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with Ken Elliot uh and um Brandy at the

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Eco Village um and so I'll move on to

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the the third micro credential that we

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were working on the development on last

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year and that was developed in

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collaboration with Canadian organic

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Growers and Seed change um and there was

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also funding that came from CBC for the

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develop Vel M of this course um this is

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Mary Brittain she runs an heirloom seed

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company and she is an our instructor and

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was the primary writer for this course

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um and it's delivered online completely

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um and Canadian organic Growers will

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also be piloting the course in February

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um so all of these courses we are able

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to secure funding from the um uh BC

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future skills grant for the majority of

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the students um that really helps um to

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uh bring awareness to this course and

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enable students to to take the

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courses uh last year we ran seven

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workshops in the spring uh at Providence

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Farm um here's Christen M Cali of saf

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flower nurseries um teaching about

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Meadow making uh we had a large number

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of other we had a yeah we had seven

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other courses so we had a um workshop on

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Native pollinators beekeeping Meadow

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making

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backyard chicken Sarah scaping

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Irrigation Design and basic maintenance

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and operation of farm equipment um

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so that's something that we are working

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on now and I'll speak about in a few

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minutes um we also engaged with a number

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of community

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organizations um to kind of strengthen

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our um the awareness of our offerings

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and also to to receive feedback um to

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have one-on-one conversation

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and

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um uh gain some insight into how we can

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partner whether that's field days or um

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attend events um so there's a mix of all

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of those interactions with this list of

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um Community

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organizations and then uh what's next um

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so right now we have submitted an

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application um for funding to develop a

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livestock micr credential um and that's

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been submitted with the small scale meat

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producers Association so we're waiting

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um we've sent in an expression of

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interest at this point and we're hoping

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to be invited for an um an application

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and

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um right now I'm working on the spring

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workshops at Providence farm and other

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locations um so the first workpop will

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be pruning uh and the end of February we

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have a SM fire smart Workshop in the

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work

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basic maintenance and operation of farm

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equipment again a beekeeping course and

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a few other

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workshops um North Island College who

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we've partnered with on a number of um

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programs and offerings including the the

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micr credential Suite um they have

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developed a program or a course called

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Community Food Systems and so we're

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going to look into seeing if that's

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something that we can incorporate into

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our suite um we have a partnership with

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North Island College uh to to deliver

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the craft brewing program so helping

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with um practicum placements for that um

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program we um plan to continue our

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involvement with cwc's agriculture

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special interest group um and we hope to

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um attend or we plan to attend a number

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of Agriculture events and focus groups

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um in this year and continue to seek

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funding um to support students to take

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these courses um

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and we'll look again to see if we can

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secure funding for the BC future skills

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Grant uh when that becomes available um

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so that's a summary of the of the

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activities from last year um and I

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welcome any questions and I thank you

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for being patient and helping

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me thanks M for the presentation um yeah

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I'm going I'm going to open up to the uh

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rest of the committee for questions but

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I what I will say is it's it's great to

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see viu taken a much uh more active role

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in supporting local farmers or or people

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interested in getting involved in the

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the agricultural sector to improve our

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to ensure they have the skills to

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improve our local food production and

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and food security so it's a great work

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and glad that we're we've partnered with

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uh you and viu to advance these

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important initiatives I'm going to turn

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to the committee I've got director

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Wilson director martman and then

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director

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Abbot thank you and and thank you for

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that presentation um I support the

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farming Community 100% because of the

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work that you do here um one of the

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things I'm most interested in is the the

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work that you do as therapy um at

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Providence Farm uh that's mentioned on

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on the website with the writing society

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and those with some I I don't know what

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the correct term is disability um that

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kind of thing can you elaborate more on

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the on the work that you do with the

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with with that kind of thing

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please sure um so we actually aren't

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involved in their therapeutic activities

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our programs are run um after hours and

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on the weekends um so we're um yeah it's

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it's separate our activities um

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and

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um there has been in the past a

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relationship with horiculture therapy

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and I believe there's some conversations

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around getting that program revitalized

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um but that's um currently not being

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offered right Mr Cher If I could have a

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followup please and so the the

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therapeutic work and the disabilities is

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uh is is ongoing you have a a a good

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number

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there um um I'm not sure of their

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numbers that's Providence Farms um

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day-to-day activities so that's um

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separate so they um have um they're

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happy to have us bring in the public in

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the after hours and on the weekends good

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thank you very

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much yeah you're

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welcome d marman uh thank you chair and

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hi Julia thank you for your presentation

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love to hear what you've accomplished

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and and look forward to more in

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20125 uh my question is more around um

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how are you finding the funding is is to

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be sustainable uh maybe you can speak a

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little bit about that and my second

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question will be about more about

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Communications

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okay good question nice to see you um so

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we're working to make sure this is a fun

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a sustainable program um we want to be

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able to offer this in the long run and

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continue to develop um programs that are

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affordable and

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um but that also uh keep the program

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going so um there's a balance of of um

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looking for grant opportunities

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the future skills Grant is an amazing uh

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program the the majority of the students

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had their tuition completely covered um

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and so that um helps students to take

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the course but then they can also learn

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about the other offerings uh while

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they're taking that course which kind of

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um brings some more support to the the

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short workshops and longer programs so

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we'll continue to look for um grant

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opportunities and we have our

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partnership with cwbc and North Island

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College in particular

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which is also a member um and so um we

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work together on sharing those

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opportunities um Jessica I'm not sure if

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you have anything you wanted to add

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about the

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sustainability yeah maybe I can just

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speak to uh from an Institutional

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perspective um as most people are aware

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most postsecondary institutions are

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experiencing Financial challenges these

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days uh and viu is is no different we're

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part of that group and when it's done is

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it's forced us to look at our program

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mix and what we're offering and and I

558
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know in my conversations with senior

559
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,200
leadership and what the long-term vision

560
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,320
of eiu Agriculture and and food security

561
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,120
food sustainability um is part of what

562
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,679
we want to include in our uh in our

563
00:25:44,679 --> 00:25:47,640
program mix moving forward um and

564
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,320
there's lots of different forms that

565
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,360
that can can look like uh whether that

566
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,640
is US building out further um

567
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,440
agriculture programming opportunities

568
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,200
but also um kind of embedding it as as

569
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,760
cross cutting themes in a lot of our

570
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,039
other programs um so that it's not

571
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:06,840
necessarily Standalone but it's

572
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,679
connecting to with uh a lot of our diff

573
00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:12,480
students at different programs at viu so

574
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,720
um like I say it's uh currently you know

575
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,760
most of the programming that we're

576
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,320
offering is operates in a cost recovery

577
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,919
activity uh but we are looking at

578
00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:24,559
expanding the program mix to

579
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,279
uh hopefully get uh some more syst

580
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:31,320
stainable um provincially funded

581
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,870
programs running in the

582
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,880
future great followup director Marvin

583
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,600
thank you chair and and I think that

584
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,039
thank you for that answer I I guess you

585
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:44,399
know the importance of this um to me

586
00:26:44,399 --> 00:26:47,000
can't be understated and the concept of

587
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,760
micr credential I think fits well with

588
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,919
Farmers time and abilities to you know

589
00:26:52,919 --> 00:26:56,159
to um focus on something um for a short

590
00:26:56,159 --> 00:26:58,399
term but get long-term gain out of the

591
00:26:58,399 --> 00:27:01,640
knowledge the I guess the other part of

592
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,880
my question is around communication and

593
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,559
the and can you speak a little bit about

594
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,880
uh maybe your growing Rolodex if that's

595
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,320
not a archaic term about H how much

596
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,919
you're able to reach out and um in terms

597
00:27:14,919 --> 00:27:18,080
of groups and individual people or do

598
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,320
you have a way that people can get

599
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,039
informed or reach out to you I'm just

600
00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:29,470
looking to share that information

601
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,799
great question um so we have a uh

602
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:34,919
newsletter that's on our website and

603
00:27:34,919 --> 00:27:36,880
that we have been directing people to

604
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,679
sign up for um we have around um 200

605
00:27:40,679 --> 00:27:43,000
people on that newsletter and we um have

606
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,360
a couple other organizations that have

607
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,240
been um sharing information about the

608
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,840
micro credentials and other offerings um

609
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,559
such as the couch and Agricultural

610
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,360
Society and um I know the young agrarian

611
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,760
systems some sharing as well um and we

612
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,360
do a back and forth with those groups to

613
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:04,880
kind of promote them um

614
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,279
so yeah we continue to do that with our

615
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:12,440
newsletter um the events we I'll be at a

616
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,760
um Booth a booth at the islands

617
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
agriculture show um and a couple of CD

618
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,919
Saturdays so that's another way to um

619
00:28:20,919 --> 00:28:23,200
continue to reach out and grow that um

620
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,640
interest list um I think there's um I

621
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,840
I have the Good Fortune of being a

622
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,880
lifelong resident at the couch and

623
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,880
Valley so I and growing up in the

624
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,799
farming community so I do have a lot of

625
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,640
uh Connections in my personal life um

626
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,519
that has helped me in this role to to

627
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:46,120
share the information so I think um yeah

628
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,720
we're just very lucky that there's a lot

629
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,799
of people who are seeing the need for

630
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:52,840
these um courses and programs so um

631
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,880
people are also coming to us as

632
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,159
well thanks Jaren if I may um I I I

633
00:28:58,159 --> 00:28:59,799
think what I guess I'm getting to is

634
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:01,760
that you can leverage this group

635
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,000
probably um because there's a great

636
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,640
source of contacts through each

637
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,039
individual director um that may be able

638
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:14,870
to also Point people to your

639
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,159
direction thank you chair and thank you

640
00:29:17,159 --> 00:29:20,760
Miss fiser Julia if I may um a wonderful

641
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,440
summary of what you've done and exciting

642
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,840
news about what's in store coming

643
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,880
forward especially the craft brewing

644
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,120
which I'm sure is near and dear to the

645
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,440
Fisher family um my question pertains to

646
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,559
the program that was offered in the

647
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:37,279
Estuary couch and Bay Estuary are you

648
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,240
able to expand a little bit more on what

649
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200
uh what happened and what plans are

650
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,440
going to happen in the couch and Bay

651
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,990
Estuary re regarding

652
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,600
agriculture um so your question is uh

653
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,159
what occurred on the field day at uh in

654
00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:58,320
the Estuary yes please jul

655
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,919
um so we we essentially we needed more

656
00:30:02,919 --> 00:30:06,399
time um there but we had um some

657
00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:08,840
connection to it through um connecting

658
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,960
with h Ken Elliot and he spoke to us at

659
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,240
his plant nursery but we made a a stop

660
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,320
um at the EST beforehand and we could

661
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,600
see the beginnings of the um Nursery

662
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,880
that's been established there um and so

663
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,039
Thomas mson who is um um a restoration

664
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,279
uh expert and he teaches at UIC um he

665
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,760
gave some information there um and we

666
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,880
hope to have some more the next time we

667
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,240
offer this course one of um some of the

668
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,640
feedback from the students is that they

669
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,720
would love to spend more time there and

670
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,440
um so our hope is that we'll be able to

671
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,559
have um maybe a full day or a half day

672
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,399
especially to learn about the the

673
00:30:51,399 --> 00:30:55,480
project going on there thank

674
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,080
you thanks

675
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360
all right seeing no other hands raised

676
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,679
from the committee members I want to

677
00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:04,240
thank uh Miss Fischer and Mr MC Almer

678
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,720
for your presentation and if you want to

679
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,360
hang tight for a few minutes our next

680
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,840
item on the agenda is going to be a

681
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,279
staff report on uh releasing the uh the

682
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:16,519
$10,000 uh in support for this project

683
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:22,950
so thanks

684
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,399
again all right so we can now move on

685
00:31:25,399 --> 00:31:27,519
straight to reports we have before us

686
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,360
item R1 report from The Economic

687
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,519
Development Division regarding the

688
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:32,200
Vancouver Island University agricultural

689
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,200
development program update I will turn

690
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,159
to Mr Oren to uh speak to this

691
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:40,679
item good morning chair and directors

692
00:31:40,679 --> 00:31:43,200
thank you um as you saw from the

693
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,080
presentation uh the purpose of this

694
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,120
report is to provide an update on the

695
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,240
2023 to 2025 Vancouver Island University

696
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,960
a development program that's being

697
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,559
supported by EDC um in 2024 this VD

698
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,519
board approved Financial

699
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:03,000
contribution uh for the program over two

700
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,919
years subject to certain

701
00:32:04,919 --> 00:32:07,399
deliverables these deliverables have now

702
00:32:07,399 --> 00:32:10,240
been met as per the report so staff are

703
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,960
recommending the release of the 2024

704
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,399
contribution of

705
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,760
$10,000 I'm here to answer any questions

706
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,000
and biu is also present as you see thank

707
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
you great thank you Mr aen so I'll turn

708
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,240
to the committee any questions for staff

709
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,960
would we like to jump straight to the uh

710
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,950
the recommendation

711
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,159
yeah uh director marman I would move the

712
00:32:33,159 --> 00:32:35,000
recommendation it's been moved is there

713
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,840
second seconded by director Abbott any

714
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,269
discussion director

715
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,960
mcgonagal just second

716
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360
in all right I'll call the question then

717
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,760
all in

718
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,519
favor and

719
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,760
opposed and oppose motion carries thanks

720
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,080
again uh Miss Fischer and Mr uh McGee

721
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,799
almers uh GL glad to be working with

722
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,240
theu on this important

723
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,960
initiative wonderful thanks for having

724
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,120
us all right thank you chair thank you

725
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,399
board thank you we'll now move on to the

726
00:33:09,399 --> 00:33:11,919
next report we have a report from the

727
00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:13,799
deputy chief administrative officer

728
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,080
regarding the CD strategic plan 2023 to

729
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,080
2026 quarter 4 2024 status report this

730
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,909
is provided for

731
00:33:24,919 --> 00:33:27,399
information any questions from the uh

732
00:33:27,399 --> 00:33:32,029
the committee for

733
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,279
staff all right we'll move on then to

734
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:36,240
the next item on our

735
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,360
agenda R3 report from the deputy chief

736
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,919
administrative officer regarding the

737
00:33:40,919 --> 00:33:44,120
seity capital projects quarter 4 2024

738
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,799
status report again gain for information

739
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,440
any questions for the from the committee

740
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,279
for staff director

741
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:54,320
Morrison uh thank you chair I'm I'm just

742
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,880
wondering uh I'm sorry I didn't get my

743
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,399
hand up for the first one if our Deputy

744
00:33:59,399 --> 00:34:04,320
CAO had any uh remarks or thoughts on on

745
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,600
the process and and where we're at on on

746
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,800
the previous item uh I know it's an

747
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,200
information item and I've I've read it

748
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,599
and uh I I found it very interesting but

749
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,760
uh was just uh thoughts if we wanted to

750
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,839
hear any general remarks on on that

751
00:34:20,839 --> 00:34:23,879
process and and how it's

752
00:34:23,879 --> 00:34:26,280
working Mr

753
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,800
postings uh yes thank you uh Mr chair uh

754
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,240
so in relation to the quarterly

755
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:35,760
strategic report so this is now our

756
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,560
third round of quarterly reports uh I

757
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,399
think you know that what I would be able

758
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:42,919
to share and what I was uh always able

759
00:34:42,919 --> 00:34:45,480
to uh share with the the board is I

760
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,079
think this process is is becoming

761
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:48,800
smoother and smoother from from the

762
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,960
staff and organizational perspective we

763
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,720
we have a uh system now where staff are

764
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,280
providing regular updates into our uh

765
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,680
the software that we're using and it

766
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,079
allows us to you know have accurate you

767
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,320
know information in a timely manner of

768
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,680
you know where projects or where

769
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,040
initiatives are so uh it as I think I

770
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,720
mentioned way back uh you know back in

771
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:12,599
the summer last year this is evolving

772
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:14,560
and and uh but I think at the end of the

773
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,560
day one of the benefits of this is we're

774
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,000
able to as a staff uh look you know

775
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,839
internally and have some celebrations on

776
00:35:20,839 --> 00:35:22,920
some of the successes that we've had uh

777
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,400
you know and this year when we look at

778
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,800
the end of Q uh four there the end of

779
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,640
the year uh there certainly has been a

780
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,440
lot of accomplishments that uh we want

781
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,320
to be able to celebrate uh the the next

782
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,760
step is we are scheduling a a meeting

783
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,240
with the board or a workshop with the

784
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,280
board uh it's scheduled right now in

785
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,839
February at time I don't know the exact

786
00:35:42,839 --> 00:35:44,640
date in front of me here which would be

787
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,640
a check-in that annual check-in for the

788
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,720
board to be able to check in on the

789
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,480
Strategic plan and make sure that if

790
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,280
there are any adjustments or

791
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,720
conversations so that Workshop will

792
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,119
happen and and and and the fact that we

793
00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,920
have this quarterly report uh updated

794
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,440
with all the information will be very

795
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,640
helpful for not only the board but staff

796
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,200
to be able to present you know if there

797
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,880
is other initiatives that want to be

798
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,760
considered or you know some of the

799
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,800
current initiatives uh adjusted so yeah

800
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,280
to date things have worked really well

801
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,359
and I think internally uh the other the

802
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:17,760
other one other point I would mention is

803
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,839
uh this will as of today this will be

804
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:21,720
posted online so it's available right

805
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,280
away for the for the public to be able

806
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,359
to access and see where the various

807
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:28,480
strategic priorities are so uh I I think

808
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800
uh any any sort of process like this

809
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,079
does take time but I think it's getting

810
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,520
smoother and smoother each uh session

811
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640
taking less less staff time and and

812
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,920
becoming more efficient so uh yeah so

813
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,200
far so good Dr Morrison a

814
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,160
followup uh thank you chair and and I

815
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,280
appreciate uh the the opportunities for

816
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,040
staff to celebrate uh the the wins and

817
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,000
the on tracks and the completed I I

818
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,200
think that's great uh I'm I'm thinking

819
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,160
the uh the ones that are the behinds and

820
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,160
and uh not completed yet is these

821
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680
quarterly reports I think are great

822
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,920
opportunities for those adjustments to

823
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,280
be made midyear and is there anything

824
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,079
that that comes to mind from this report

825
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:20,240
that is I wouldn't say keeping you awake

826
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,280
at night but uh that is is a priority

827
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,119
that uh you would like to see uh

828
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,040
Advanced further than it is now and uh

829
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,880
is behind uh behind its scheduled uh uh

830
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,119
timeline is anything in particular come

831
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:36,599
to mind

832
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,880
yeah um through the chair to the

833
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640
director the so I guess two parts to

834
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,720
that one is that uh the the intent of

835
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,640
these reports such as be information

836
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,520
reports will be allow the board to

837
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960
receive this and and if there certain if

838
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,359
there's question was happy to answer if

839
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:55,880
the what we have as staff uh made sure

840
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,359
if there are things that are behind or

841
00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:01,640
say budgets are not uh sufficient it's

842
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,000
it's absolutely critical that comes

843
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160
forward as a staff report so we'll bring

844
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,560
that forward so the decisions and

845
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,720
directions so uh we will I would suggest

846
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,280
we avoid too much changes in these

847
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,440
presentations this is the information

848
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,720
but I will say that there's a couple

849
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,440
that are behind that you will see some

850
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,319
staff reports coming fairly soon in the

851
00:38:20,319 --> 00:38:21,800
sense of maybe there's some adjusts

852
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,319
maybe there's been a uh something uh

853
00:38:24,319 --> 00:38:25,839
come up that needs to be needs to be

854
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:28,000
changed so we will continue to do that

855
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,359
through the staff report process and

856
00:38:30,359 --> 00:38:32,319
this is flagging basically what you're

857
00:38:32,319 --> 00:38:33,800
likely going to see in the near future

858
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,160
if there is if if there is any um in

859
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,800
relation to one that I would say is

860
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,720
highlighted you will uh the probably the

861
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,040
first section there the reconciliation

862
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160
uh you will be receiving a report in

863
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,000
February uh in regarding a number of

864
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,440
things related to reconciliation

865
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,800
activities as as has been noted we have

866
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,200
hired uh our uh First Nations advisor

867
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,760
and that uh position started in Jan on

868
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,720
January 6 I guess it was and they've

869
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:05,280
already initiated a internal uh advisory

870
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,839
uh uh committee uh presented a work plan

871
00:39:08,839 --> 00:39:10,640
to the we'll be presenting a work plan

872
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,240
to smt this week and then the the next

873
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,440
step is once that work plan is has been

874
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,760
uh reviewed we'll be bringing that to

875
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,480
the board and so that's probably the big

876
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,079
priority right now that that we want to

877
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,240
get that underway and and we have a lot

878
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,800
of uh uh energy and excitement behind

879
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,560
that one there so there's there that one

880
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,800
will be in February so that's the one

881
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,400
that jumps out right now as as that

882
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,880
whole section of reconciliation is is uh

883
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,880
is our priority uh in the you know

884
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,400
immediate future

885
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,480
here director

886
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,040
estash thanks chair um looks like we ho

887
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,760
back to strategic plan and I thought we

888
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,480
were on Capital plan is it fine to speak

889
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,560
on Capital Plan setatus update right now

890
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,599
um let's I'll just turn to the committee

891
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,440
ask any other questions on strategic

892
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,800
planner can move on to Capital plan

893
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,280
now all right seeing seeing No Hands Up

894
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040
director sash will move straight to the

895
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,200
capital plan like the Strategic plan no

896
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,280
real questions or comments it's great to

897
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,520
now to see the updating reports and

898
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,720
hearing the other directors on their

899
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,359
comments on those type of things apply

900
00:40:16,359 --> 00:40:19,440
across to the capital plan um but real

901
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960
quick was uh relevance to our most

902
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,680
recent press release on page nine with

903
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,760
our regional Parkland acquisition uh

904
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,720
great job by staff and all involved of

905
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,920
course to get the Paul uh Bald Mountain

906
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,760
Park expansion uh I shared that press

907
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,400
release all around but the big question

908
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,119
I kept getting back was uh can we

909
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,640
provide a map so not really a question

910
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,520
just a request to staff if they can

911
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,280
update the press release somewhere or

912
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,960
put it somewhere of an actual map

913
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,119
because everybody was asking me they

914
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,520
didn't understand where the expansion

915
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,800
was so great work by staff and just a

916
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,319
quick comment on that and otherwise uh

917
00:40:54,319 --> 00:40:56,079
looking at all the capital projects yeah

918
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,640
definitely Lots on the go and great to

919
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,079
see okay yeah D Mr postings yeah thank

920
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:06,280
you uh um and just to respond to the uh

921
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,480
director's uh comment absolutely we we

922
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,319
can work on that and get that map uh

923
00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:12,760
available so uh yeah that's a great uh a

924
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,800
great comment um one thing with the

925
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,319
capital if I could just share there's

926
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:18,720
just really only one item is that uh

927
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,720
when we last presented the capital the

928
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,920
one thing that we talked about is that

929
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,440
uh you've got there's two sections

930
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,079
within this one section is the completed

931
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:27,839
items because we had not been reporting

932
00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:30,480
on Capital uh consistently in the past

933
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,079
up until now we'll be providing an

934
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,960
accordly update is we have broken out

935
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,319
the ones that are completed so those

936
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:38,680
completed items some of those go back to

937
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,440
20189 when they were funded uh some were

938
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,520
multi-year projects so that completed

939
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,200
just just for the the director's

940
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,400
awareness uh uh the or the committee's

941
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,520
awareness is that uh we'll show that

942
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,119
that'll be posted as completed but in

943
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,680
the future uh for 2025 we'll just be

944
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,200
posting the ongoing ones uh and the ones

945
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
that have been completed for 2024 and

946
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,079
prior will be uh archived or will be

947
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:06,800
actually just available online so we're

948
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,119
just not post we're not going to be

949
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,520
showing year quarterly after quarter

950
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,240
ones that are two three years old um so

951
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:14,640
just want to share that that's why

952
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,440
they're separated out so each year we'll

953
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,760
do that where we combine all the

954
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,880
completed ones uh and the remaining ones

955
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,680
will continue along and as what was

956
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,920
approved in 2000 what uh will or is

957
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,240
approved in 2025 will then be inserted

958
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,920
into that Q2 report there so or q1 sorry

959
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,079
thank

960
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,119
you Dr

961
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:41,319
Morrison uh thank you chair uh Mr

962
00:42:41,319 --> 00:42:44,280
postings I'm just wondering if you uh

963
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,040
this is more of a 30,000 foot level

964
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,599
question but in relation to the uh

965
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:54,319
difficulties in the sort of Municipal uh

966
00:42:54,319 --> 00:42:57,319
cost of living inflation rates that

967
00:42:57,319 --> 00:42:59,920
we've been seeing uh extraordinary

968
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,559
numbers coming in for rfps and the likes

969
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,480
and and I'm just wondering if you're

970
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
seeing any uh Trend towards a a

971
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,480
normalization of of costs and and you

972
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,079
know our supply chain issues being uh

973
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,480
are being resolved and and is there much

974
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,200
in what you've reported on here that you

975
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,079
would say might be exposed to uh some of

976
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:27,920
those uh cost overruns that uh you know

977
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,319
are experiencing all across the province

978
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:31,440
and the

979
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,680
country Mr

980
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,920
posings uh yes through the chair to the

981
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,559
director uh yeah great question and and

982
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:41,920
I would say the one of the benefits of

983
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,480
these now that we have these corly

984
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,680
reports we are actually able to have

985
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,280
these conversations and start looking

986
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,480
ahead at let's just say a project is

987
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,200
defined and we are seeing some cost

988
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,880
impacts that we're possibly going to be

989
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,520
expecting uh so we are having those

990
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,680
conversation staff are having this

991
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,400
conversation internally about you know

992
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,599
possible adjustments to the uh work

993
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,280
plans which of course will come back to

994
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,599
the to the uh uh board and get direction

995
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,319
uh due to the fact that there are some

996
00:44:11,319 --> 00:44:13,800
costs that are are certainly uh we're

997
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,319
seeing are not within budget uh may not

998
00:44:17,319 --> 00:44:19,640
be the best interest for the for for us

999
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,520
to proceed forward at this time maybe we

1000
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,480
need a a break uh in the sense of uh the

1001
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,319
timing of that but uh so we are having

1002
00:44:27,319 --> 00:44:28,319
those

1003
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:30,720
conversations as of now just because of

1004
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,440
some of the some of the impacts but I

1005
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,000
don't think there's any in there right

1006
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,280
now that that jump out that I I can flag

1007
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,440
right now but I would say it is a

1008
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,920
conversation that staff are having and

1009
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,240
we will uh certainly bring any of those

1010
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,240
uh impacts of potential calls back to

1011
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:47,440
the board for for direction um but not

1012
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,839
none highlighted right now yeah thank

1013
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:58,030
you director Nicholson

1014
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,240
um thank you Mr postings that's a great

1015
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:03,480
report I appreciate them um you

1016
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,720
mentioned that we're going to have a

1017
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,920
conversation about strategic priorities

1018
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,240
in the near future and and I we've

1019
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,119
talked about in in the past about the

1020
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:15,119
absence of or the perhaps the the the

1021
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:18,559
need to strengthen our uh focus on

1022
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,319
agriculture and I know that it needs to

1023
00:45:21,319 --> 00:45:24,200
be uh done in terms of the budget as

1024
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,400
well so I'm wondering what the timeline

1025
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,190
is for that those

1026
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,040
discussions through the chair to the

1027
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,800
director uh So the plan is either what

1028
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,920
we're looking at right now this is just

1029
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,800
tentative but it's either uh February

1030
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,640
5th or 12th we're just looking at the

1031
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,359
calendar there and we'll work with the

1032
00:45:42,359 --> 00:45:44,400
chair to determine what that uh what

1033
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,520
that timeline looks like we have a draft

1034
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,480
agenda um the CAO uh and myself have

1035
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,200
created a draft agenda with the with the

1036
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,160
GMS and we will we will uh bring this

1037
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,559
Workshop back to or develop this

1038
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:58,319
Workshop we have the workshop developed

1039
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:00,400
we'll bring to the uh board for

1040
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,119
consideration of new items so if you

1041
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:03,839
recall there's been things such as

1042
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:05,440
placed in what we've termed the parking

1043
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,800
lot so these are items that are not part

1044
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,920
of the actual strategic plan currently

1045
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,680
but there's some interest in considering

1046
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,800
those those items for uh uh the

1047
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,079
Strategic plan so we will bring that

1048
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:16,720
forward we we already have that list of

1049
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,079
the parking lot items that have been put

1050
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:19,880
there which includes agriculture that's

1051
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,920
that's one that is uh there's a number

1052
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,400
of aspects of the Agricultural side and

1053
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,760
then the board will have to make some

1054
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,200
decisions is is as is there an

1055
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,359
adjustment to the actual existing

1056
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:31,440
strategic plan uh to be able to fit

1057
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,680
these in or maybe some of the things on

1058
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,400
the Strategic plan are not that were

1059
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,800
developed AFCO not a priority at this

1060
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,280
point in time for the next couple of

1061
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,359
years and need to be adjusted out so

1062
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:42,680
that Workshop will be happening in the

1063
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,440
next month and we'll check in with the

1064
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,240
board make sure that the current

1065
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,079
strategic plan is clear for for staff to

1066
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,359
then go and uh uh continue that

1067
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,280
developing that but uh there are parking

1068
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,520
lot items that have been brought forward

1069
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,910
uh and those will be discussed and

1070
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,119
presented followup director

1071
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:06,640
Nicholson yeah and so can I be um

1072
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,240
assured that if we need to to alter the

1073
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:13,990
budget we'll have time to do

1074
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,040
that uh I'm not sure I can answer that

1075
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,960
right now that's uh a good question I'm

1076
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,800
not sure that uh we'd have to look at

1077
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,559
that exactly what that looks like I

1078
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:27,520
think how I would I would

1079
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,480
mentioned that looks like the Daniel may

1080
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,599
have a comment on

1081
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:35,480
that M Miles Wilson hi oh I'm looking at

1082
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,640
the wrong video uh I just I just wanted

1083
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,280
to note that um uh because of the

1084
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,599
timeline in the calendar um you know

1085
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,880
reminding reminding the directors that

1086
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,720
you have the Strategic Investments fund

1087
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:50,559
which is set aside um and can be used to

1088
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,160
fund strategic priorities that do come

1089
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,359
up throughout the year as you already

1090
00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:55,920
know um but because of the cycle that

1091
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,559
we're creating with these these updates

1092
00:47:57,559 --> 00:47:59,599
and reviewing of the Strategic plan the

1093
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:03,000
intent is that the Strategic Plan update

1094
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,119
is informing um the next budget cycle

1095
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,920
moving forwards so although you have

1096
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,400
some flexibility in the Strategic

1097
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,400
Investments fund to activate a project

1098
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,160
or an initiative that we don't currently

1099
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,880
have uh funded we're looking at kind of

1100
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,000
the next cycle and kind of um how we

1101
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,319
would uh advise you on um revising your

1102
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:24,240
your work priorities and the Strategic

1103
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,280
plan priorities in the in the next cycle

1104
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,119
but I'll just highlight that there's

1105
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,119
there's definitely an opportunity there

1106
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,200
but um anything of significance would

1107
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:38,630
have to be looked at in the in the more

1108
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,119
comprehensively Victor Nicholson

1109
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:44,520
follow no just so so when you say the

1110
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,119
next cycle you mean 20 the budget for

1111
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:51,200
2026 yes uh so just just kind of

1112
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,760
highlighting that you do have some

1113
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,680
ability to fund oneoff projects um in

1114
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,280
different areas that we don't currently

1115
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,160
have budgeted right but but that if

1116
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,720
there's anything of significance if you

1117
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:02,760
want to explore any significant

1118
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,640
investment or or a new service type of

1119
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,920
thing we'll be looking at the next

1120
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:12,589
budget and then in the following

1121
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:14,440
year all right I'll turn to the

1122
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,400
committee any further questions with

1123
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,440
regards to the capital plan projects

1124
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,760
update we will now move on to the next

1125
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,359
item on the agenda are four rep reports

1126
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:27,000
from Emergency Management division

1127
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
regarding the Regional Emergency

1128
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,119
Management local Authority agreement CD

1129
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:35,240
and member municipalities we do have a

1130
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:37,359
three-part recommendation before us but

1131
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:39,160
I will turn to the committee to see if

1132
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,789
you have any questions for

1133
00:49:43,799 --> 00:49:46,280
staff and if not I'll ask if someone

1134
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,240
would like to move the recommendation

1135
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,160
moved by uh director Morrison seconded

1136
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,960
by director Seagal any discussion call

1137
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,880
the question all in favor and oppose

1138
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,880
none opposed the motion carries we'll

1139
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:04,760
now move on to Unfinished Business ub1

1140
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,280
Report from the office of the CEO

1141
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,640
regarding the 2025 Association of

1142
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,119
Vancouver Island and Coastal communities

1143
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:13,040
resolutions we have a recommendation

1144
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,000
that that it be recommended to the board

1145
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,359
that on January 22nd 2024 that the three

1146
00:50:18,359 --> 00:50:20,760
resolutions provided be submitted to

1147
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Avic for consideration at the 2025

1148
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,760
convention so we have three resolutions

1149
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,119
before us I can certainly read them all

1150
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:33,160
out if you like or not any any

1151
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,400
discussion or would someone like to get

1152
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,359
these on the

1153
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:38,160
floor moved by director mcgonagal

1154
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,400
seconded by director Nicholson any

1155
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:50,990
discussion director

1156
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,559
Nicholson thank you sorry about that um

1157
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:56,839
I am wondering if it's possible to

1158
00:50:56,839 --> 00:50:58,760
strengthen the one about the private

1159
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:04,640
managed Forest land um I am

1160
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,680
um I think I think having the review is

1161
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,799
important and I know that the review has

1162
00:51:09,799 --> 00:51:13,400
heard a lot about the issues that were

1163
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,880
identified by the um public input folks

1164
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,839
today and I think they're really

1165
00:51:18,839 --> 00:51:20,280
important and I'm wondering if that

1166
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,319
should be emphasized a bit more right

1167
00:51:23,319 --> 00:51:27,359
now it's just the review and more more a

1168
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:29,160
um local government

1169
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,119
input but I want to be very explicit

1170
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:35,559
that we've got um the need to manage our

1171
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,319
watersheds more ecologically so that we

1172
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:40,520
protect our water

1173
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,280
supply I can respond Mr chair yeah Miss

1174
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,240
Miles Wilson yeah and so I just just to

1175
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:50,200
remind the directors too that um we did

1176
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,359
uh request a ministers meeting last year

1177
00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:55,920
at ubcm uh on this topic and we met with

1178
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,400
um met with the deputy uh and uh we met

1179
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,680
with actually with staff as well and um

1180
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,720
there was lukew war kind of commitment

1181
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,960
and interest but then again that was um

1182
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,400
at a time where they weren't they

1183
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,799
weren't in a position to make

1184
00:52:10,799 --> 00:52:14,240
commitments as um uh um the government

1185
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:15,599
was not willing to make any of those

1186
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:19,640
commitments but um uh H we're happy to

1187
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,200
revise and strengthen the resolution

1188
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,839
itself but I'll just also remind that uh

1189
00:52:24,839 --> 00:52:26,960
these are to be submitted with back back

1190
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,440
grounders um and so staff with your

1191
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,079
direction if there's other additional

1192
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:32,680
details you'd like to be submitted in a

1193
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,720
backgrounder we can actually strengthen

1194
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,079
the resolution but also just put a

1195
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:37,799
little bit more information in in that

1196
00:52:37,799 --> 00:52:40,280
additional document um and the other

1197
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,559
thing is um we'll need to identify or

1198
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,079
the chair will need to kind of appoint

1199
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:46,240
someone to speak to each resolution at

1200
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,520
the convention if it gets accepted so

1201
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,799
just as a bit of context um on on the

1202
00:52:52,799 --> 00:52:55,160
process thanks m m I'm going to turn to

1203
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,520
director mcon a moment but um could sta

1204
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,440
provide us with a bit of guidance on how

1205
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,520
best to incorporate that um stronger

1206
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,599
emphasis that director Nicholson

1207
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:06,359
reference would we do this kind of on

1208
00:53:06,359 --> 00:53:08,040
the fly right now with adding some

1209
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,880
additional wording or provide staff with

1210
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,520
some direction maybe make some tweaks

1211
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,359
before this comes back to the the board

1212
00:53:14,359 --> 00:53:17,400
this afternoon so that that would be my

1213
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,440
preference Mr chair is to give a bit of

1214
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,960
direction and then we can recraft the

1215
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,880
wording and then put it back on the

1216
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,880
board this afternoon these have to get

1217
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,960
submitted by February 6th so we do

1218
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,839
really need to wrap it up today if

1219
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:32,119
possible all right well let's hold that

1220
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:33,520
thought for a second I'm going to turn

1221
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,200
to um director mcgonagal and director

1222
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,760
Morrison and um and perhaps we can

1223
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,799
discuss whether we want to provide staff

1224
00:53:41,799 --> 00:53:43,319
with direction to to strengthen some of

1225
00:53:43,319 --> 00:53:45,400
the wording so director mcal thank you

1226
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,680
chair through you I think the

1227
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,520
opportunity with the backgrounder that

1228
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,440
Miss Miles Wilson spoke of and by

1229
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,000
appointing uh a director to speak to

1230
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,559
that once it hits the floor could be the

1231
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,480
Avenue for the strengthened language

1232
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,880
where we had a captive audience of uh

1233
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,240
fellow elected officials throughout the

1234
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,480
room that might support us who also have

1235
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,079
uh considerable concerns within private

1236
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,880
Forest manage lands within some of their

1237
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,799
communities so that would be an Avenue

1238
00:54:13,799 --> 00:54:15,720
that I would I would think might be

1239
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:18,599
appropriate instead of trying to uh

1240
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:20,839
write on the Fly and bring it back this

1241
00:54:20,839 --> 00:54:23,520
afternoon just a

1242
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,920
thought thanks director mcgonagal uh

1243
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,190
director

1244
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,359
uh yeah thank you chair and and just you

1245
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:33,880
know thinking about the process here and

1246
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,720
the fact that this will be uh reviewed

1247
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:40,920
by ubcm staff and Avic CC staff and and

1248
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,920
this will be a long uh added to a long

1249
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,599
list of resolutions that have been

1250
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:49,240
submitted and you know hearing and and

1251
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:50,760
agreeing with a lot of what director

1252
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,359
Nicholson is saying is is that we're

1253
00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:56,480
we're going at the private manag Force

1254
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,640
lands act with a principal focus of of

1255
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,559
watershed protection and management and

1256
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,559
I'm just looking at this and considering

1257
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:12,640
is uh should we perhaps be uh splitting

1258
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,280
this and saying we have a grave concern

1259
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,200
about our watersheds our aquifers and

1260
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,559
the general management lack of of uh

1261
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:26,520
local uh participation and oversight in

1262
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,440
that

1263
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,039
process and also we have uh as a as a

1264
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,039
separate resolution a uh uh an issue

1265
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:36,640
with the private managed Forest lands

1266
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,599
act and its lack of responsibility

1267
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:41,640
around practices and and the like so I I

1268
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,240
put that out there it I'm reading the

1269
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,480
resolution like so many others we're

1270
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,720
going at water through forests and uh

1271
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,400
this hasn't ever been very well received

1272
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:59,319
by the provincial government so uh for

1273
00:55:59,319 --> 00:56:01,200
information thanks director Morrison

1274
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,079
I've got director mclinton director

1275
00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:05,920
stash I'm g go back to director

1276
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,880
Nicholson thanks chair I just want to

1277
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,039
support uh director

1278
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:14,599
McGonagle's IDE and I would nominate him

1279
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:16,480
to be our speaker and if he needs help

1280
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,870
standing I'll be there right with

1281
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,680
him thanks director mcgonagal um

1282
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,440
director estash

1283
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,599
like director mclinton I was going to

1284
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:33,640
support what director mcgonagle said uh

1285
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,280
um on putting someone on the spot on

1286
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,400
that and actually I was going to

1287
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,880
recommend the chair um mostly just for

1288
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,839
benefit of the cvrd board here um chair

1289
00:56:44,839 --> 00:56:47,880
Douglas has uh for our Council we've

1290
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,599
been on six local Mill tours now we've

1291
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:53,559
been touring and meeting with the

1292
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:56,559
executives at all the P Mills value

1293
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:00,240
added Mills Primary Mills new kils the

1294
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,400
Investments and everything and pmfl does

1295
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,079
come up in a bit in that discussion I do

1296
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:07,599
take um it is important to clarify what

1297
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:10,920
our goals are on pmfl like director uh

1298
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,000
Morrison said are we after water or we

1299
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,119
after the whole process access Community

1300
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:18,640
input and engagement but myself

1301
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,280
personally from what I've seen and also

1302
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,119
I've seen um the chair Douglas Corner

1303
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:26,880
the previous Minister Ralston and his

1304
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,799
Deputy Minister several times so has

1305
00:57:29,799 --> 00:57:31,920
their ear knows the staff so if he was

1306
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,039
going to speak to it on the floor if

1307
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:35,599
he's willing to I'd suggest that maybe

1308
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:38,200
uh our chair of committee does that

1309
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,240
speaking at Avic as he's so well versed

1310
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,880
on it but I'm open to the whole boards

1311
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,359
but I just wanted to put him on the spot

1312
00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:47,119
and explain the work he has been doing

1313
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:48,799
and the countless letters on behalf of

1314
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:51,599
our municipalities he's wrote about pmfl

1315
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:53,359
in the entire forest indes and he's

1316
00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:55,240
traveled we've actually done tours up in

1317
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,039
comok in other regions to see Mills and

1318
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:00,640
other people dealing with similar pmfl

1319
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,839
issues not so much related to water more

1320
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:05,160
so to

1321
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,839
economic um issues it creates but I just

1322
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,079
wanted to speak to that so I think uh

1323
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:11,920
I've said my bit and I'll stop talking I

1324
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,280
just wanted to put there I think it's

1325
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,599
really important but director Morrison

1326
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:17,400
his point was really important is what

1327
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,960
is our ultimate goal and maybe we be

1328
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,520
need to be really clear on what we're

1329
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,559
doing here me It Isn't So Much the water

1330
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,680
we're doing good work on the water side

1331
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,280
it's the whole pmfl pmfl in its whole

1332
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,160
and if we can get any kind of review

1333
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,240
done and get a community impact and like

1334
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,559
they're doing on frpa and the community

1335
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:41,000
planning workshop and their logging

1336
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,920
practices where there's Community um I

1337
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,240
can't even remember the the forest

1338
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,559
planning part of it all the

1339
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:51,200
better great thanks director stashi I

1340
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,880
appreciate the the vote of confidence I

1341
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,799
think around our table there's many of

1342
00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:56,880
us who have different areas expertise

1343
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,079
around um forestry and the private

1344
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,400
managed Forest signs program and um I

1345
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,160
know I know last year ubcm several of us

1346
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,599
spoke in the the meeting with the

1347
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:06,920
minister and all again brought a

1348
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,280
different perspective I think which made

1349
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,720
us made us very effective um I'm gonna I

1350
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,359
know director Nicholson you we're next

1351
00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:14,799
director martman hasn't spoken yet so

1352
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:16,119
I'm going to director martman then then

1353
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:18,200
you're next after that director

1354
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,039
Nicholson thank you chair and I I think

1355
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:22,880
there may be a third item that around

1356
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,280
this that um maybe staff can speak it's

1357
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,599
around the uh property taxes that are

1358
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,480
paid by forestry lands and that's sort

1359
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,680
of been I gather not been addressed you

1360
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,280
know since the review is not complete is

1361
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,920
that part of that as well and I have a

1362
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,880
followup well turn to staff I mean that

1363
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,400
certainly I think is something we could

1364
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,280
address in the the background or could

1365
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,960
be addressed if we do get the province

1366
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,680
to actually complete the review but I'll

1367
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,960
turn to Miss Mes Wilson yeah I it has

1368
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,799
been in background material keep in mind

1369
00:59:55,799 --> 00:59:58,680
that this issue has been coming up for a

1370
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,799
decade and I I do feel like we're kind

1371
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:02,880
of repackaging the same argument over

1372
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,920
and over not to disc the fact that this

1373
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,960
is very important advocacy work and and

1374
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,559
you guys have identified this in in your

1375
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:10,480
strategic plan as being a major priority

1376
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,039
for advocacy but I would say uh

1377
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:15,000
absolutely we we would we can work

1378
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,440
something like that into the

1379
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,480
backgrounder um by the nature of

1380
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,079
resolutions they're meant to be very

1381
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,359
short and sweet into the point and so

1382
01:00:22,359 --> 01:00:25,319
not all of our argument or our concerns

1383
01:00:25,319 --> 01:00:26,960
necessarily are make their way just the

1384
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,559
most important uh Focus point is what to

1385
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:31,680
be in the

1386
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,839
resolution thank yeah yeah thank you and

1387
01:00:34,839 --> 01:00:37,319
I and I think this is where there are so

1388
01:00:37,319 --> 01:00:40,480
many things that fall out of this one

1389
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,400
issue around the review that I I think

1390
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,960
we have to be very strategic and I would

1391
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,599
leave the staff to look at that because

1392
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:50,559
I I think if you look at all if you put

1393
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,520
all three things down um it it may not

1394
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,000
get tractioned whereas one item May and

1395
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,280
I think the Watershed in aquafer for my

1396
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,760
community is actually absolutely

1397
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,400
Paramount and so I guess I leave it to

1398
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,160
staff to say this is the time to push

1399
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,520
this button right now because it has

1400
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,440
more ability more chance of being

1401
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,640
successful thank

1402
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,440
you okay I'm gonna turn to director

1403
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:23,710
Nicholson then I'd like to to weigh

1404
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,319
myself uh thank you I sent a suggested

1405
01:01:27,319 --> 01:01:28,599
for

1406
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:31,480
a modification of wording and I sent it

1407
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,960
to you and Alison

1408
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,599
Boyd and I can read it out if you'd

1409
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:39,520
like yeah please do s director marman

1410
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,230
can you lower your

1411
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,599
hand so I just suggest that the the last

1412
01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:52,520
uh part be um CH to say therefore be it

1413
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,720
resolved that Avic requests that the

1414
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,839
province of BC and the min Forest reform

1415
01:01:56,839 --> 01:01:58,960
the private managed Forest lines act so

1416
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,720
that it protects the groundwater and

1417
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,920
surface water quantity and quality

1418
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,079
ecologically regulates the Harvest rate

1419
01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:06,680
and ensures that local governments have

1420
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,760
input to Resource harvesting activities

1421
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,400
within the watersheds that support their

1422
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,400
communities and and just to be clear DK

1423
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,039
Nicholson would that be an addition to

1424
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:17,480
the other therefore be it resolve that

1425
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,319
staff have

1426
01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:22,920
presented no you you if you know in in

1427
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,520
the one that the staff um suggest

1428
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,240
this is a just to replace it it's just

1429
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,359
an edit I've added a couple some words

1430
01:02:30,359 --> 01:02:34,950
around the water quality and

1431
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,880
quantity all right so we have a

1432
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,640
suggestion then to um revise the the

1433
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,480
wording for the the resolution I've

1434
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,279
heard different perspectives around the

1435
01:02:44,279 --> 01:02:48,000
table here um we can ask uh director

1436
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,319
Nicholson to move that get it on the

1437
01:02:49,319 --> 01:02:51,599
floor for debate or I know does anyone

1438
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,079
have any D

1439
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,160
Nicholson uh I can move it if if you'd

1440
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,920
like okay let's get it on the floor so

1441
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,039
it's been moved is there a

1442
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:02,799
second seconded by director

1443
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:05,319
deck director

1444
01:03:05,319 --> 01:03:07,559
Morrison uh thank you chair I was just

1445
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:09,839
wondering if it was appropriate to split

1446
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:12,640
the uh three resolutions or consider

1447
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,640
this separately yeah that's a that's a

1448
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,520
great idea how about

1449
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,440
um yeah we sever them so

1450
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,680
let's yeah this is the

1451
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,640
um the second

1452
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,200
that we could deal with resolutions one

1453
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,680
and three to get those out of the way

1454
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,839
and then then Circle back to number

1455
01:03:32,839 --> 01:03:35,200
two does that work recognize we've got a

1456
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,720
motion on the floor right now but before

1457
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,119
we move to debating that we'll just kind

1458
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:41,839
of clean this up so moved okay so we

1459
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:45,079
moved um resolutions one and three for

1460
01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:46,920
submitting to the a

1461
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,200
aicc moved by director uh Morrison

1462
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,720
seconded by director Abbott any

1463
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,799
discussion I'll call the question on

1464
01:03:55,799 --> 01:03:57,760
resolutions one and three all in

1465
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,480
favor

1466
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,520
opposed uh none opposed we're going to

1467
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,039
go back to resolution two and we have a

1468
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:06,839
motion on the floor to revise the the

1469
01:04:06,839 --> 01:04:10,839
wording for the therefore be resolved Mr

1470
01:04:10,839 --> 01:04:13,319
chair can I ask a question for clarity

1471
01:04:13,319 --> 01:04:16,920
yeah before so um the STA staff had

1472
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,359
recommended that we um in the res

1473
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:21,319
resolved section of the resolution that

1474
01:04:21,319 --> 01:04:25,240
we request that the province uh um uh

1475
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,440
complete the currently stalled Phase 2

1476
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,400
pmfl review um at the previous

1477
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,960
convention there was there was not a

1478
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,599
commitment to kind of move forwards with

1479
01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:36,760
that so I just wanted Clarity around the

1480
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,440
revised wording do you want to still um

1481
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,240
note that as a bit of a followup from

1482
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,400
last year or um or remove that

1483
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,079
portion so like I can't speak on behalf

1484
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:49,880
of the committee my preference would be

1485
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,960
to include that reference to completing

1486
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,799
the review I think it is a nice simple

1487
01:04:53,799 --> 01:04:55,680
message that you spent money you

1488
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,480
apprciated this thing you asked for our

1489
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,440
input the couch and Watershed board

1490
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,160
provided input most of the regional

1491
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,319
districts and municipalities on uh

1492
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:05,760
Southern Vancouver Island as far as I

1493
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,119
can tell did provide some input and um

1494
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:09,480
it would be great to see the province

1495
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,559
wrap that up and if they do that wrap

1496
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:13,039
that up and if they are taking our

1497
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:15,119
feedback seriously I think that they are

1498
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,079
they would have to address many of the

1499
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:18,480
the issues raised that doesn't mean we

1500
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,760
can't certain doesn't mean we can't pass

1501
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,119
the um the addition suggested by

1502
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:26,520
director Nicholson but for perspective I

1503
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,440
I definitely would like to keep the

1504
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,240
reference to completing the program

1505
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:35,190
review in the the

1506
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,680
resolution so turn to the committee any

1507
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,240
further discussion got a resolution on

1508
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,160
the the floor here director mclinton

1509
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,599
I think I need excuse me just little bit

1510
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,319
of clarity so keeping the review and

1511
01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:52,920
then adding the that's already in the

1512
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,880
existing resolution right

1513
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,720
yeah I think if I could my understanding

1514
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,319
is director Nicholson thought it would

1515
01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:02,039
would replace it but I think we do have

1516
01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:04,799
the option of of adding it instead so

1517
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:06,319
that we are continuing that reference

1518
01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:10,309
the program

1519
01:06:10,319 --> 01:06:13,520
review I I'll just say this I I just

1520
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,039
share our cao's concerns and I think we

1521
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:19,400
should be chipping away at small wins

1522
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,640
with the province I mean they're dug in

1523
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,720
on this this is a massive Money Maker

1524
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,279
for them for tax revenue

1525
01:06:26,279 --> 01:06:28,880
I just think this is going to fall flat

1526
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,520
so I just for that reason I I don't

1527
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,000
think I can support it I support it in

1528
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,319
principle I wish if we have the

1529
01:06:37,319 --> 01:06:39,319
decision-making process I would support

1530
01:06:39,319 --> 01:06:41,400
it but I I won't support the resolution

1531
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,240
for just those

1532
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,039
reasons thanks director mclinton

1533
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:47,680
director Morrison and then director

1534
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,400
martman yeah I'm I'm challenged as well

1535
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,359
because uh I just in in listening I

1536
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:54,400
don't have it in writing but in

1537
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,200
listening to the resolution put forward

1538
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,440
by director Nicholson again it's we're

1539
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,960
talking completion of the review we're

1540
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,200
talking practices and then there's that

1541
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,039
chunk that's water

1542
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:10,119
sustainability you know water balance

1543
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:14,160
which is you know the pro provincial

1544
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,160
Ministry responsible for Forest is going

1545
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,799
to look at that chunk and and

1546
01:07:17,799 --> 01:07:21,279
essentially ignore it if there is a a

1547
01:07:21,279 --> 01:07:24,839
resolution that refers to the ministry

1548
01:07:24,839 --> 01:07:27,640
responsible for watersheds and aquifers

1549
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,359
to work with the the ministry of forests

1550
01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:34,039
to protect watersheds and and and

1551
01:07:34,039 --> 01:07:37,279
aquifers I think that it's more targeted

1552
01:07:37,279 --> 01:07:40,359
it's more specific and uh it it's not

1553
01:07:40,359 --> 01:07:42,760
going to get lost because there's too

1554
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:48,150
much of an ask in in a in a broad-based

1555
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,880
resolution great thanks director

1556
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,599
Morrison I'll go to director martman

1557
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,359
then director deck sorry I noticed

1558
01:07:53,359 --> 01:07:55,279
director Sorry Miss Miles Wilson your

1559
01:07:55,279 --> 01:07:56,000
hand

1560
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,279
did you have anything to add before I

1561
01:07:57,279 --> 01:07:58,520
move to director

1562
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,359
marman no that uh that is a mistake I

1563
01:08:02,359 --> 01:08:04,400
put it down all right director marman

1564
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,960
then director deck so easy to do um I I

1565
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,520
guess I think there's value in what

1566
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,480
director Nicholson is saying and I and

1567
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,120
but I'm uncomfortable sort of flipping

1568
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,040
um resolutions so so quickly without

1569
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,120
maybe having staff take a look at both

1570
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,120
of them and saying maybe there's a

1571
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,000
better one to come forward was that we

1572
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,560
could vote you know look at this

1573
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,719
afternoon so I'm wondering if staff you

1574
01:08:29,719 --> 01:08:31,120
know I think that's where staff sort of

1575
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,759
started as well saying you know give us

1576
01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:35,719
Direction we'll come back let's let's

1577
01:08:35,719 --> 01:08:37,759
have something this afternoon because I

1578
01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:39,960
think there's there's pieces of both but

1579
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,640
I think as as other directors are saying

1580
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,560
we also have to be strategic about what

1581
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,560
we can accomplish so uh I don't know if

1582
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,719
this is is a referral motion or we just

1583
01:08:51,719 --> 01:08:58,510
leave it till defer it till the board

1584
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,560
yeah I don't have the answer to that

1585
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,759
director martman I would look to the

1586
01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:03,400
rest of the committee Miss Miles Wilson

1587
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:04,520
you look like you're about to add

1588
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,560
something yeah just if there is

1589
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,120
direction we can we can um refer this to

1590
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,880
the board this afternoon and then I can

1591
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,839
connect with our Environmental Services

1592
01:09:12,839 --> 01:09:15,239
team who helped put this together and we

1593
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:17,960
can um take a look at the the the

1594
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,799
wording and um and uh carry on with the

1595
01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:23,520
discussion and hopefully land a revised

1596
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,000
uh resolution that uh sit well with

1597
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,839
everyone okay so how about we have that

1598
01:09:28,839 --> 01:09:31,159
as an option then we we can refer the

1599
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:35,440
motion uh to staff to refine the the

1600
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:38,719
resolution and bring it back to uh the

1601
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:40,279
board for for the discussion this

1602
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:43,120
afternoon some along those lines M Miles

1603
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:49,870
Wilson all right Dr

1604
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,040
deck uh thank you can you hear

1605
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,800
me yep okay thanks

1606
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,520
um I

1607
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,360
think I can't uh

1608
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:07,320
understate overstate I can't I can't say

1609
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:12,239
how much value there is in thinking of

1610
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:16,560
Forestry or any activity on the on uh

1611
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,840
private managed Forest land that's more

1612
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,800
important than um whole of watershed

1613
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,840
approach in terms of Forestry and water

1614
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,880
sustainability I mean water is the key

1615
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,719
here you know it's what the release of

1616
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:37,960
of water from the watersheds

1617
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,000
in you know over logged mountains is

1618
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,360
what causes the the pulses the big

1619
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,320
floods the lack of water in the summer

1620
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,320
that that whole timing thing is because

1621
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,239
of logging so our

1622
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:58,920
yeah so so in term that's my perspective

1623
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,840
sorry I I can't just speak for everyone

1624
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,920
but from my perspective water is the

1625
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,400
most important reason we need to look at

1626
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,000
changing private managed Forest land so

1627
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,910
I don't want that to be forgotten at

1628
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,159
all thanks director deck I'll turn to

1629
01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:18,550
director

1630
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,320
aach very quick for the reasons director

1631
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,719
mclinton said keep it simple and just

1632
01:11:23,719 --> 01:11:26,040
even getting the ACT continued and

1633
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,840
reviewed that's the goal that's that's

1634
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,719
the win and all these other points will

1635
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:33,960
be built into there so as they say keep

1636
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,760
it simple so I support director

1637
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,280
mcclinton's

1638
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,880
position director

1639
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,520
Justice yeah just very simply I would be

1640
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,000
in favor of keeping the original motion

1641
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,159
and adding a second one

1642
01:11:49,159 --> 01:11:50,800
expressing

1643
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:57,910
um director Nicholson's uh motion

1644
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,520
all right so here in the comments around

1645
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,760
the the virtual table here I think we

1646
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,560
can either um we can either vote on the

1647
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,960
the motion on the floor as is we can

1648
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,560
refer it back to staff to come up with

1649
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,360
some refinements to the the original

1650
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,199
resolution or um or we can just leave

1651
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:23,040
the leave leave the resolution as

1652
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,600
is do we do we want to test see if there

1653
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,320
is an appetite for referring it to staff

1654
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,560
so we can at least consider the I I see

1655
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,199
you director one sec do we want to refer

1656
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:34,480
this to staff just to see what some

1657
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:36,199
alternative wording might look like for

1658
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:38,199
consideration of the the board meeting

1659
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:39,520
alternative

1660
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,639
director yeah I'd move that to refer it

1661
01:12:42,639 --> 01:12:45,040
to the board this afternoon okay so we

1662
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,800
refer the motion on the floor to staff

1663
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,920
to refine the wording of the abic

1664
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,480
resolution regarding private managed

1665
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,360
Forest lands for the board's

1666
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,840
consideration

1667
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,880
during the uh January 2022

1668
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,040
meeting does that work so moved by

1669
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,600
director seal second by director

1670
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,679
mclinton

1671
01:13:04,679 --> 01:13:07,760
call the question all in

1672
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,000
favor and

1673
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,480
opposed A none opposed so it's been

1674
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:15,000
referred we can discuss this

1675
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,639
further very soon so we'll now move on

1676
01:13:18,639 --> 01:13:22,120
to question period and I'll turn to

1677
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,239
staff as we are in a virtual meeting and

1678
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:26,080
ask if um

1679
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,520
if there are any virtual attendees their

1680
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,480
hands

1681
01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:31,760
raised nope we do not have anyone

1682
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,600
registered for question period and

1683
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,800
nobody in the spare room deide

1684
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,800
me all right um we do not have a closed

1685
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,320
session a days so I think we can move

1686
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,120
straight to adjournment I'll look for a

1687
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,520
motion to

1688
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,199
adjourn uh move by director Nicholson's

1689
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:50,120
second by director Duncan call the

1690
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,800
question all in favor and

1691
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,159
opposed and opposed motion carries so

1692
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:58,320
I'll declare this meeting a jour