1 00:04:44,350 --> 00:04:46,370 Pledge allegiance to the flag 2 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:47,839 of United States of America and 3 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,800 to the republic for which it 4 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,810 stands. One nation under GOD, 5 00:04:52,810 --> 00:04:55,210 indivisible, with liberty and 6 00:05:01,452 --> 00:05:02,741 justice for all. 7 00:05:02,741 --> 00:05:04,550 I want to welcome everybody to 8 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:05,189 the MAY 5th Cinco de Mayo 9 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:07,525 regular meeting of the Eagan 10 00:05:07,525 --> 00:05:10,763 City Council. It is our first 11 00:05:10,763 --> 00:05:13,698 meeting of the month of MAY. We 12 00:05:13,698 --> 00:05:16,735 have a fairly light agenda in 13 00:05:16,735 --> 00:05:17,750 terms of topics. But I don 14 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:18,627 t 15 00:05:18,627 --> 00:05:19,422 think we 16 00:05:19,422 --> 00:05:20,489 re going to be getting 17 00:05:20,489 --> 00:05:21,584 out of here in time for puck 18 00:05:21,584 --> 00:05:22,489 drop tonight. So we 19 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:23,401 ll be 20 00:05:23,401 --> 00:05:26,401 getting into the meeting here 21 00:05:26,478 --> 00:05:27,980 really quickly. And hopefully, 22 00:05:27,980 --> 00:05:28,550 maybe if anything happens, 23 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:29,814 we 24 00:05:29,814 --> 00:05:31,682 ll give a few subtle updates 25 00:05:31,682 --> 00:05:33,285 on the game. I know on the 26 00:05:33,285 --> 00:05:34,685 front row your your concern and 27 00:05:34,685 --> 00:05:35,644 following. So we 28 00:05:35,644 --> 00:05:37,555 ll make sure 29 00:05:37,555 --> 00:05:38,756 to do that. I will say that I 30 00:05:38,756 --> 00:05:39,857 we have a meeting. We have an 31 00:05:39,857 --> 00:05:42,961 item on the agenda tonight that 32 00:05:42,961 --> 00:05:45,998 was on the agenda for the apc 33 00:05:45,998 --> 00:05:47,365 on Thursday. And I watched that 34 00:05:47,365 --> 00:05:48,934 meeting live. I know many of 35 00:05:48,934 --> 00:05:50,935 you were in the room for that 36 00:05:50,935 --> 00:05:53,405 meeting on Thursday. When the 37 00:05:53,405 --> 00:05:54,672 wild played and won. So 38 00:05:54,672 --> 00:05:55,674 hopefully if we missed a good 39 00:05:55,674 --> 00:05:56,561 portion of the game, we 40 00:05:56,561 --> 00:05:57,775 ll get 41 00:05:57,775 --> 00:05:58,654 the same result tonight. All 42 00:05:58,654 --> 00:05:59,594 right. So that 43 00:05:59,594 --> 00:06:00,391 s that doesn 44 00:06:00,391 --> 00:06:01,237 t 45 00:06:01,237 --> 00:06:02,114 mean we have to spend the whole 46 00:06:02,114 --> 00:06:03,882 time here. Like if we can get 47 00:06:03,882 --> 00:06:06,717 home by mid second period, 48 00:06:06,717 --> 00:06:08,186 maybe, you know. Anyway, with 49 00:06:08,186 --> 00:06:09,687 that, MISS Miller, any changes 50 00:06:09,687 --> 00:06:10,822 agenda tonight? No, MR. Mayor. 51 00:06:10,822 --> 00:06:11,530 Council. Any changes? Agenda? 52 00:06:11,530 --> 00:06:12,352 No motion. 53 00:06:12,352 --> 00:06:13,265 Councilmember Hanson. 54 00:06:13,265 --> 00:06:14,159 To adopt. 55 00:06:14,159 --> 00:06:15,570 The agenda is presented second. 56 00:06:15,570 --> 00:06:16,210 That 57 00:06:16,210 --> 00:06:16,926 s moved and seconded. Any 58 00:06:16,926 --> 00:06:17,763 further discussion on the 59 00:06:17,763 --> 00:06:19,631 agenda? Seeing none. All in 60 00:06:19,631 --> 00:06:20,932 favor saying aye. And opposed? 61 00:06:20,932 --> 00:06:22,735 Nay. That motion carries and we 62 00:06:22,735 --> 00:06:24,100 have an agenda. We have no 63 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:24,590 recognitions and presentations 64 00:06:24,590 --> 00:06:25,373 tonight, so I 65 00:06:25,373 --> 00:06:27,773 ll go right to 66 00:06:27,805 --> 00:06:28,806 our consent agenda. Are there 67 00:06:28,806 --> 00:06:29,908 any members of the public who 68 00:06:29,908 --> 00:06:32,770 are here on an item that 69 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:33,445 appears in the consent agenda 70 00:06:33,445 --> 00:06:34,812 and had questions on that item 71 00:06:34,812 --> 00:06:37,649 and wanted to see item acted on 72 00:06:37,649 --> 00:06:38,616 separately? Seeing none, I 73 00:06:38,616 --> 00:06:39,721 ll 74 00:06:39,721 --> 00:06:40,692 bring it back to the council 75 00:06:40,692 --> 00:06:41,789 counsel. Same question. 76 00:06:41,789 --> 00:06:42,631 For a motion. 77 00:06:42,631 --> 00:06:43,938 Councilmember bacon. 78 00:06:43,938 --> 00:06:45,660 Move to approve the balance of 79 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:46,125 the consent agenda. Second. 80 00:06:46,125 --> 00:06:47,259 That 81 00:06:47,259 --> 00:06:48,491 s moved and seconded. Is 82 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:49,791 there any further discussion on 83 00:06:49,791 --> 00:06:51,189 the consent agenda? Seeing 84 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:52,578 none. All in favor signify 85 00:06:52,578 --> 00:06:54,870 saying I and opposed. Nay. That 86 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:55,413 motion carries. And we will 87 00:06:55,413 --> 00:06:57,690 move on to public hearing. We 88 00:06:57,690 --> 00:06:59,138 have just one public hearing 89 00:06:59,138 --> 00:07:02,738 tonight. It should be a fairly 90 00:07:03,410 --> 00:07:05,477 efficient item, I think is a a 91 00:07:05,477 --> 00:07:07,713 to vacate a utility easement at 92 00:07:07,713 --> 00:07:10,349 lot one, block one. United 93 00:07:10,349 --> 00:07:12,349 Stationers Edition at 1720 94 00:07:12,618 --> 00:07:13,519 Alexander Road. Owner. 95 00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:14,820 Thank you, MISTER Mayor. 96 00:07:14,820 --> 00:07:16,330 Members of the council. This 97 00:07:16,330 --> 00:07:17,322 request is actually coming from 98 00:07:17,322 --> 00:07:18,690 city staff for consideration of 99 00:07:18,690 --> 00:07:20,292 the vacation of the utility 100 00:07:20,292 --> 00:07:21,593 easement. The purpose is to 101 00:07:21,593 --> 00:07:22,828 vacate the utility easement 102 00:07:22,828 --> 00:07:24,329 along the south side of the 103 00:07:24,329 --> 00:07:25,643 existing building. Public 104 00:07:25,643 --> 00:07:27,430 easements are not required to 105 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:28,333 address the existing private 106 00:07:28,333 --> 00:07:29,660 utilities within the easement 107 00:07:29,660 --> 00:07:31,181 on this property. So I will 108 00:07:31,181 --> 00:07:32,290 turn it over to Public Works 109 00:07:32,290 --> 00:07:33,485 Director Mathis. 110 00:07:33,485 --> 00:07:34,533 Thank you, MRS. Miller. MR. 111 00:07:34,533 --> 00:07:35,841 Mayor, members of the council 112 00:07:35,841 --> 00:07:37,876 and audience. This property is 113 00:07:37,876 --> 00:07:40,179 located in northwest Eagan, and 114 00:07:40,179 --> 00:07:43,115 it MAY look really familiar. In 115 00:07:43,115 --> 00:07:44,416 fact, the topic MAY be really 116 00:07:44,416 --> 00:07:46,185 seem familiar for the same 117 00:07:46,185 --> 00:07:47,306 property because it wasn 118 00:07:47,306 --> 00:07:48,448 t that 119 00:07:48,448 --> 00:07:49,713 long ago where we had an 120 00:07:49,713 --> 00:07:51,660 easement vacation on this 121 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:52,123 property as well. Now, at that 122 00:07:52,123 --> 00:07:53,358 time, it was requested by the 123 00:07:53,358 --> 00:07:54,661 previous property owner. The 124 00:07:54,661 --> 00:07:56,196 property has been sold. Now we 125 00:07:56,196 --> 00:07:58,197 have a new property owner, and 126 00:07:58,197 --> 00:07:59,631 as MRS. Miller indicated, the 127 00:07:59,631 --> 00:08:01,900 request is actually coming from 128 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:02,963 staff in this case. So it 129 00:08:02,963 --> 00:08:03,780 s 130 00:08:03,780 --> 00:08:04,738 kind of unusual. In fact, I 131 00:08:04,738 --> 00:08:05,750 don 132 00:08:05,750 --> 00:08:06,664 t remember. It 133 00:08:06,664 --> 00:08:08,730 s been a 134 00:08:08,730 --> 00:08:09,976 long time since staff came to 135 00:08:09,976 --> 00:08:11,511 council suggesting or 136 00:08:11,511 --> 00:08:12,878 requesting that the council 137 00:08:12,878 --> 00:08:15,278 consider an easement vacation, 138 00:08:15,914 --> 00:08:19,514 but in this case, the easement 139 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:21,588 is addressing a water main and 140 00:08:21,588 --> 00:08:22,601 a storm sewer. So it 141 00:08:22,601 --> 00:08:24,601 s the 142 00:08:24,691 --> 00:08:26,559 darker shaded easement area 143 00:08:26,559 --> 00:08:27,893 that actually the sole purpose 144 00:08:27,893 --> 00:08:30,129 of it is to address the needs 145 00:08:30,129 --> 00:08:31,163 of the property owner, both for 146 00:08:31,163 --> 00:08:32,432 the building and the drainage 147 00:08:32,432 --> 00:08:33,356 of the site. So there 148 00:08:33,356 --> 00:08:35,168 s no 149 00:08:35,168 --> 00:08:36,636 public purpose for the 150 00:08:36,636 --> 00:08:39,360 utilities that exist within 151 00:08:39,539 --> 00:08:41,774 that easement. And so the 152 00:08:41,774 --> 00:08:42,654 thought is, is to make it. And 153 00:08:42,654 --> 00:08:43,616 we 154 00:08:43,616 --> 00:08:44,481 ve had discussions with the 155 00:08:44,481 --> 00:08:45,402 current property owner, both 156 00:08:45,402 --> 00:08:47,847 the former and the current 157 00:08:47,847 --> 00:08:50,847 property owner. But the thought 158 00:08:51,918 --> 00:08:54,287 is, is to take the easement 159 00:08:54,287 --> 00:08:55,173 away and let the property owner 160 00:08:55,173 --> 00:08:56,185 do what they want with their 161 00:08:56,185 --> 00:08:57,171 property, because there 162 00:08:57,171 --> 00:08:59,171 s no 163 00:09:00,193 --> 00:09:01,995 need for city staff to address 164 00:09:01,995 --> 00:09:03,296 any of the utilities that are 165 00:09:03,296 --> 00:09:05,696 located within these easements. 166 00:09:06,432 --> 00:09:08,600 So with that, we have sent out 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,403 notices to all the regular 168 00:09:10,403 --> 00:09:12,205 interested parties, private 169 00:09:12,205 --> 00:09:13,850 utility representatives and 170 00:09:13,850 --> 00:09:14,140 such, and there 171 00:09:14,140 --> 00:09:15,275 s been no 172 00:09:15,275 --> 00:09:17,210 responses from anyone that they 173 00:09:17,210 --> 00:09:19,646 have any interest in the 174 00:09:19,646 --> 00:09:20,739 vacation of this easement. So 175 00:09:20,739 --> 00:09:21,875 with that, I 176 00:09:21,875 --> 00:09:22,929 m available for 177 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:24,918 any other questions that the 178 00:09:24,918 --> 00:09:26,520 council MAY have. 179 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,554 Cindy is the applicant. So what 180 00:09:27,554 --> 00:09:31,754 do you hear more from the City 181 00:09:31,958 --> 00:09:33,560 Council? Any questions of staff 182 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:34,620 before I open up to the throngs 183 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:35,726 of public comments? And I 184 00:09:35,726 --> 00:09:37,726 m 185 00:09:38,732 --> 00:09:39,870 sure soon to come seeing none, 186 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:40,910 are there any members of the 187 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:44,510 public who want to comment on 188 00:09:46,272 --> 00:09:47,974 the proposed? Vacation to the 189 00:09:47,974 --> 00:09:50,374 utility easement at United 190 00:09:50,376 --> 00:09:52,376 Stationers Edition at 1720 191 00:09:54,681 --> 00:09:55,565 Alexander Road. None. I 192 00:09:55,565 --> 00:09:56,691 ll 193 00:09:56,691 --> 00:09:57,583 bring him back to Council for 194 00:09:57,583 --> 00:09:58,345 additional conversations and or 195 00:09:58,345 --> 00:09:59,246 motion. 196 00:09:59,246 --> 00:10:01,154 For motion. Councilmember 197 00:10:01,154 --> 00:10:02,550 fields to close the public 198 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:03,323 hearing and approve the 199 00:10:03,323 --> 00:10:05,291 vacation of the utility 200 00:10:05,291 --> 00:10:07,862 easement on lot one, block one 201 00:10:07,862 --> 00:10:08,795 United Stationers Edition, 1720 202 00:10:08,795 --> 00:10:09,776 Alexander. 203 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:10,737 Road. Second. 204 00:10:10,737 --> 00:10:11,768 That 205 00:10:11,768 --> 00:10:13,600 s moved and seconded. Any 206 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,901 additional comment? Seeing 207 00:10:14,901 --> 00:10:16,230 none. All in favor say aye. 208 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:18,772 Aye. And opposed. Nay. That 209 00:10:18,772 --> 00:10:19,790 motion carries. If only this 210 00:10:19,790 --> 00:10:20,847 next item. We 211 00:10:20,847 --> 00:10:22,810 re going to be 212 00:10:22,810 --> 00:10:24,244 that brief. That concludes our 213 00:10:24,244 --> 00:10:26,450 work on public hearings 214 00:10:26,450 --> 00:10:27,125 tonight. We have no old 215 00:10:27,125 --> 00:10:28,106 business, so I 216 00:10:28,106 --> 00:10:29,315 ll go into new 217 00:10:29,315 --> 00:10:32,510 business. We have one item of 218 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:34,621 new business. It is an interim 219 00:10:34,621 --> 00:10:37,924 use permit for Iron Gate data 220 00:10:37,924 --> 00:10:39,392 center. And Michael Margulies, 221 00:10:39,392 --> 00:10:40,560 apologies for the pronunciation 222 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:42,280 there. It 223 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,330 s an interim use 224 00:10:44,330 --> 00:10:47,168 permit to allow outdoor storage 225 00:10:47,168 --> 00:10:49,403 of four trailer chillers for 226 00:10:49,403 --> 00:10:52,403 operation of a data center 227 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:54,400 located at 3199 Pilot Knob 228 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:54,810 Road. MISS Miller, I 229 00:10:54,810 --> 00:10:55,551 ll let you 230 00:10:55,551 --> 00:10:56,324 get us started off. 231 00:10:56,324 --> 00:10:57,678 Thank you, MR. Mayor. Members 232 00:10:57,678 --> 00:10:58,978 of the council, the subject 233 00:10:58,978 --> 00:11:00,880 property was originally part of 234 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,850 the 212 acre spare Univac 235 00:11:02,850 --> 00:11:04,150 campus. As a reminder, Sperry 236 00:11:04,150 --> 00:11:05,351 Univac campus was primarily 237 00:11:05,351 --> 00:11:07,210 involved in semiconductor 238 00:11:07,210 --> 00:11:08,889 research and manufacturing. The 239 00:11:08,889 --> 00:11:09,990 property is guided major office 240 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:11,724 and zoned research and 241 00:11:11,724 --> 00:11:12,892 development. As the mayor 242 00:11:12,892 --> 00:11:14,394 indicated, the applicant is 243 00:11:14,394 --> 00:11:15,996 seeking a six month interim use 244 00:11:15,996 --> 00:11:18,131 permit to allow outdoor storage 245 00:11:18,131 --> 00:11:19,566 of four trailer chiller units. 246 00:11:19,566 --> 00:11:20,700 The Planning Commission held a 247 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:22,202 public hearing on the interim 248 00:11:22,202 --> 00:11:24,338 use permit on APRIL 28th, and 249 00:11:24,338 --> 00:11:25,390 recommended denial of the aup. 250 00:11:25,390 --> 00:11:26,318 i 251 00:11:26,318 --> 00:11:27,184 m going to turn it over to 252 00:11:27,184 --> 00:11:27,971 City Planner Schultz for a 253 00:11:27,971 --> 00:11:28,905 location map and additional 254 00:11:28,905 --> 00:11:30,177 information. 255 00:11:30,177 --> 00:11:32,246 Thank you, MR. Miller. Good 256 00:11:32,246 --> 00:11:33,380 evening. Mayor Council. I do 257 00:11:33,380 --> 00:11:34,882 have a little bit, maybe 258 00:11:34,882 --> 00:11:37,217 lengthier presentation than the 259 00:11:37,217 --> 00:11:39,720 normal for an iup, so bear with 260 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,124 me. So before you here, the 261 00:11:43,124 --> 00:11:44,892 map, the subject property 262 00:11:44,892 --> 00:11:47,194 consists of a 312,000 square 263 00:11:47,194 --> 00:11:49,290 foot building. As MRS. Miller 264 00:11:49,290 --> 00:11:52,320 indicated, that was part of the 265 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,101 Sperry Univac campus. The 266 00:11:54,101 --> 00:11:55,803 property abuts Pilot Knob Road 267 00:11:55,803 --> 00:11:57,638 to the east and Tower View 268 00:11:57,638 --> 00:12:00,841 Road, which is a public street. 269 00:12:00,841 --> 00:12:02,476 To the north. Residential. Both 270 00:12:02,476 --> 00:12:04,178 single family and townhomes are 271 00:12:04,178 --> 00:12:05,613 located to the north of the 272 00:12:05,613 --> 00:12:07,415 property. Townhomes here. 273 00:12:07,415 --> 00:12:11,150 Single family to the north and 274 00:12:11,118 --> 00:12:13,530 to the west. And single family 275 00:12:13,530 --> 00:12:15,389 homes as well. On the east side 276 00:12:15,389 --> 00:12:17,291 of Pilot Knob Road. Central 277 00:12:17,291 --> 00:12:18,692 Park is located abuts the 278 00:12:18,692 --> 00:12:21,162 property to the south and the 279 00:12:21,162 --> 00:12:22,480 south west of the property. 280 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,960 There 281 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,999 s a change in grade. The 282 00:12:24,999 --> 00:12:26,934 park sits approximately 30 to 283 00:12:26,934 --> 00:12:29,334 40ft below. The subject 284 00:12:31,338 --> 00:12:33,809 property. And then the City 285 00:12:33,809 --> 00:12:35,376 Spirit Tower is located just 286 00:12:35,376 --> 00:12:36,411 inside, almost surrounded on 287 00:12:36,411 --> 00:12:39,411 three sides of the property 288 00:12:41,482 --> 00:12:42,917 located right here. Back around 289 00:12:42,917 --> 00:12:44,452 the property is guided major 290 00:12:44,452 --> 00:12:46,870 office in zoned for research 291 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:47,354 and development. The subject 292 00:12:47,354 --> 00:12:50,124 property was originally part of 293 00:12:50,124 --> 00:12:51,892 the 212 acre Sperry Univac 294 00:12:51,892 --> 00:12:54,292 campus, which comprised of 295 00:12:54,562 --> 00:12:56,163 three buildings. That 212 acre 296 00:12:56,163 --> 00:12:57,631 campus was approximately from 297 00:12:57,631 --> 00:13:00,234 Tower View Road down to Yankee 298 00:13:00,234 --> 00:13:01,970 Doodle. And Pilot Knob Road on 299 00:13:01,970 --> 00:13:03,971 the east side. The third 300 00:13:03,971 --> 00:13:05,207 building, which was located 301 00:13:05,207 --> 00:13:07,374 basically where Central Park 302 00:13:07,374 --> 00:13:09,276 Commons currently is at, 303 00:13:09,276 --> 00:13:11,676 comprised basically of that 304 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:13,414 three building campus. As 305 00:13:13,414 --> 00:13:14,498 indicated, the campus was 306 00:13:14,498 --> 00:13:15,616 primarily involved in 307 00:13:15,616 --> 00:13:17,616 semiconductor research and 308 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,200 manufacturing. 1987. The third 309 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,570 building on the subject 310 00:13:22,570 --> 00:13:24,457 building was constructed to 311 00:13:24,459 --> 00:13:25,500 make up that campus. Building 312 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:26,338 permits. At the time of the 313 00:13:26,338 --> 00:13:28,338 original construction 314 00:13:28,497 --> 00:13:29,898 identified a computer center on 315 00:13:29,898 --> 00:13:32,167 two floors of the north half of 316 00:13:32,167 --> 00:13:33,435 the building. On the north half 317 00:13:33,435 --> 00:13:34,636 of the building, which is 318 00:13:34,636 --> 00:13:36,772 basically this portion of the 319 00:13:36,772 --> 00:13:38,206 building. Later building 320 00:13:38,206 --> 00:13:39,808 permits identified the use of 321 00:13:39,808 --> 00:13:41,842 data center within the 322 00:13:41,842 --> 00:13:43,512 building. The south half of the 323 00:13:43,512 --> 00:13:45,512 building. Essentially, this 324 00:13:45,881 --> 00:13:48,881 portion just under the glass 325 00:13:49,451 --> 00:13:51,190 roof here. South building is 326 00:13:51,190 --> 00:13:52,319 comprised largely of offices 327 00:13:52,319 --> 00:13:53,688 supporting administrative uses 328 00:13:53,688 --> 00:13:55,590 within the building. When it 329 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:58,590 was fully occupied by Unisys 330 00:13:58,660 --> 00:13:59,761 employees. In 2007, a portion 331 00:13:59,761 --> 00:14:01,295 of the lower level was 332 00:14:01,295 --> 00:14:03,295 repurposed. Approximately in 333 00:14:03,765 --> 00:14:04,833 this area for data center use, 334 00:14:04,833 --> 00:14:06,340 which included additional 335 00:14:06,340 --> 00:14:08,340 mechanical and generator 336 00:14:08,403 --> 00:14:10,500 plazas. Shown on this aerial in 337 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:13,500 the south portion of the 338 00:14:13,775 --> 00:14:14,776 building in NOVEMBER 2025, was 339 00:14:14,776 --> 00:14:15,815 announced that Swivel 340 00:14:15,815 --> 00:14:17,815 Development Corporation 341 00:14:18,130 --> 00:14:18,991 purchased the property. 342 00:14:18,991 --> 00:14:20,816 Suburban Development 343 00:14:20,816 --> 00:14:22,617 Corporation owns a subsidiary 344 00:14:22,617 --> 00:14:24,352 company, Iron Gate Data 345 00:14:24,352 --> 00:14:26,752 Centers, which also owns 346 00:14:26,755 --> 00:14:28,890 Woodbury Capital llc, which is 347 00:14:28,890 --> 00:14:30,192 the registered agent of Eagan 348 00:14:30,192 --> 00:14:31,760 Capital llc, which is the 349 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,295 identified property owner 350 00:14:33,295 --> 00:14:35,695 within Dakota County. Property 351 00:14:36,765 --> 00:14:39,165 records. In 2002, City Council 352 00:14:39,801 --> 00:14:42,437 directed staff to initiate a 353 00:14:42,437 --> 00:14:44,606 land use study of three parcels 354 00:14:44,606 --> 00:14:47,410 around Eagan Central Park in 355 00:14:47,410 --> 00:14:49,911 the sec. Two of those parcels 356 00:14:49,911 --> 00:14:51,780 were included as the Unisys 357 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:53,716 property and the former Delta 358 00:14:53,716 --> 00:14:56,180 Airlines property. As well as 359 00:14:56,180 --> 00:14:58,418 the former Argosy University 360 00:14:58,820 --> 00:15:01,423 property. What resulted in that 361 00:15:01,423 --> 00:15:03,823 was the Northwest Central 362 00:15:03,860 --> 00:15:05,394 Common Small Area Plan. That 363 00:15:05,394 --> 00:15:07,330 basically envisioned envisioned 364 00:15:07,330 --> 00:15:09,730 redevelopment primarily for the 365 00:15:09,731 --> 00:15:11,734 two properties located north of 366 00:15:11,734 --> 00:15:13,336 Central Park. The Delta 367 00:15:13,336 --> 00:15:14,636 property or Central Park West, 368 00:15:14,636 --> 00:15:16,405 as it was later called in the 369 00:15:16,405 --> 00:15:17,840 study, primarily identified a 370 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,476 mix of residential land use 371 00:15:20,476 --> 00:15:22,211 types. The Unisys property, or 372 00:15:22,211 --> 00:15:24,800 later termed the Central Park 373 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:25,314 East, within the plan, 374 00:15:25,314 --> 00:15:26,982 identified a mix of both 375 00:15:26,982 --> 00:15:28,417 residential and commercial land 376 00:15:28,417 --> 00:15:31,417 uses. Given the proximity and 377 00:15:32,422 --> 00:15:33,537 access to Pilot Knob Road. So 378 00:15:33,537 --> 00:15:35,524 as part of the proposal in 379 00:15:35,524 --> 00:15:36,725 FEBRUARY, staff inspected the 380 00:15:36,725 --> 00:15:37,994 property after receiving 381 00:15:37,994 --> 00:15:39,661 numerous noise complaints and 382 00:15:39,661 --> 00:15:41,530 noted that there were three 383 00:15:41,530 --> 00:15:44,233 trailer chillers on the west 384 00:15:44,233 --> 00:15:46,169 northwest side of the property. 385 00:15:46,169 --> 00:15:47,303 Staff informed the owner that 386 00:15:47,303 --> 00:15:49,138 an interim use permit was 387 00:15:49,138 --> 00:15:51,874 needed for any outdoor storage 388 00:15:51,874 --> 00:15:53,476 occurring on the property. The 389 00:15:53,476 --> 00:15:55,430 initial iup application 390 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:55,912 included three portable 391 00:15:55,912 --> 00:15:57,580 chillers. However, the 392 00:15:57,580 --> 00:15:59,315 applicant modified the request 393 00:15:59,315 --> 00:16:00,616 to add a fourth chiller, 394 00:16:00,616 --> 00:16:02,150 delaying the initial scheduled 395 00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:04,550 public hearing that was 396 00:16:04,954 --> 00:16:06,322 scheduled in MARCH. The four 397 00:16:06,322 --> 00:16:07,757 temporary chillers are located 398 00:16:07,757 --> 00:16:09,592 on the northwest corner of the 399 00:16:09,592 --> 00:16:11,594 building, and comprise of 400 00:16:11,594 --> 00:16:13,896 trained 500 ton air cooled 401 00:16:13,896 --> 00:16:15,898 attack units. As you can see on 402 00:16:15,898 --> 00:16:16,941 the larger site plan, they 403 00:16:16,941 --> 00:16:18,201 re 404 00:16:18,201 --> 00:16:20,169 located here on this kind of 405 00:16:20,169 --> 00:16:21,204 west northwest portion of the 406 00:16:21,204 --> 00:16:22,116 site. I 407 00:16:22,116 --> 00:16:24,600 m just going to zoom in 408 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,370 here. According to the 409 00:16:25,370 --> 00:16:25,997 applicant 410 00:16:25,997 --> 00:16:26,976 s narrative, the 411 00:16:26,976 --> 00:16:28,878 existing chillers on the roof 412 00:16:28,878 --> 00:16:30,446 of the building quote had 413 00:16:30,446 --> 00:16:32,715 reached their end of their 414 00:16:32,715 --> 00:16:34,684 useful life and need to be 415 00:16:34,684 --> 00:16:36,419 replaced in order to ensure 416 00:16:36,419 --> 00:16:38,354 continuous cooling of to the 417 00:16:38,354 --> 00:16:39,422 facility and interruption and 418 00:16:39,422 --> 00:16:41,158 cooling service would 419 00:16:41,158 --> 00:16:43,159 materially affect the operation 420 00:16:43,159 --> 00:16:44,260 of the facility. The use of the 421 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:46,260 temporary chillers would 422 00:16:46,529 --> 00:16:48,564 provide required chilling for 423 00:16:48,564 --> 00:16:50,134 the use of the data center. The 424 00:16:50,134 --> 00:16:51,367 applicant notes three of the 425 00:16:51,367 --> 00:16:52,969 four chillers could run 426 00:16:52,969 --> 00:16:54,238 simultaneously for up to 24 427 00:16:54,238 --> 00:16:55,238 hours per day, depending on 428 00:16:55,238 --> 00:16:57,241 weather and the number of 429 00:16:57,241 --> 00:16:59,409 servers in use. The fourth 430 00:16:59,409 --> 00:17:00,978 chiller is intended for backup 431 00:17:00,978 --> 00:17:02,450 only, and would operate in the 432 00:17:02,450 --> 00:17:04,647 event of one of the three. 433 00:17:04,647 --> 00:17:06,883 Chillers were to fail. The 434 00:17:06,883 --> 00:17:09,510 chiller set, a, a standard 53 435 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:11,451 foot flatbed trailer with 436 00:17:11,522 --> 00:17:12,889 mechanical operations exposed 437 00:17:12,889 --> 00:17:14,124 to the open. Here 438 00:17:14,124 --> 00:17:15,325 s a diagram 439 00:17:15,325 --> 00:17:18,162 that was included both within 440 00:17:18,162 --> 00:17:20,164 the narrative and within the 441 00:17:20,164 --> 00:17:21,498 noise study that was provided 442 00:17:21,498 --> 00:17:24,601 to Council as part of the 443 00:17:24,601 --> 00:17:26,370 packet. Here are some 444 00:17:26,370 --> 00:17:28,770 photographs taken on the 445 00:17:29,206 --> 00:17:30,941 property. Back in MARCH that 446 00:17:30,941 --> 00:17:33,544 show the chillers parked on 447 00:17:33,544 --> 00:17:35,512 their current locations. Prior 448 00:17:35,512 --> 00:17:37,314 to construction of the Noise 449 00:17:37,314 --> 00:17:39,883 Wall. As you can see in these 450 00:17:39,883 --> 00:17:41,180 photos, a lot of the mechanical 451 00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:44,180 machinery as part of these 452 00:17:44,540 --> 00:17:44,868 chillers are basically open. 453 00:17:44,868 --> 00:17:45,622 There isn 454 00:17:45,622 --> 00:17:46,590 t maybe a standard 455 00:17:46,590 --> 00:17:48,920 housing that 456 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,660 s maybe covering 457 00:17:49,660 --> 00:17:51,595 basically the the operation of 458 00:17:51,595 --> 00:17:52,996 the mechanical machinery. As 459 00:17:52,996 --> 00:17:55,933 part of the chilling operation. 460 00:17:55,933 --> 00:17:56,999 So all of this is exposed. And 461 00:17:56,999 --> 00:17:58,350 these pictures were taken when 462 00:17:58,350 --> 00:18:00,770 there was only three chillers 463 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:03,640 on the site. And not the fourth 464 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:04,975 chiller. According to the 465 00:18:04,975 --> 00:18:06,243 narrative, the applicant 466 00:18:06,243 --> 00:18:07,411 anticipates new permanent 467 00:18:07,411 --> 00:18:09,811 chillers will be installed 468 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:11,215 within 4 to 6 months. On APRIL 469 00:18:11,215 --> 00:18:12,916 20th, the city received 470 00:18:12,916 --> 00:18:15,520 mechanical plans to install 471 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,287 eight permanent chillers to be 472 00:18:17,287 --> 00:18:20,157 located slightly south of the 473 00:18:20,157 --> 00:18:21,492 temporary chiller location. 474 00:18:21,492 --> 00:18:23,494 That would be approximately in 475 00:18:23,494 --> 00:18:25,195 this location. Right now, as 476 00:18:25,195 --> 00:18:26,400 part of the building permit 477 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:26,941 that 478 00:18:26,941 --> 00:18:29,199 s been submitted to the 479 00:18:29,199 --> 00:18:30,968 city. They show the chillers in 480 00:18:30,968 --> 00:18:32,971 a new courtyard or mechanical 481 00:18:32,971 --> 00:18:35,371 yard. Basically, within this 482 00:18:37,574 --> 00:18:38,791 area of the of the property. 483 00:18:38,791 --> 00:18:40,577 From the end of FEBRUARY 484 00:18:40,577 --> 00:18:41,613 through the beginning, it was 485 00:18:41,613 --> 00:18:42,817 part of the noise mitigation 486 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,249 and code enforcement. City 487 00:18:44,249 --> 00:18:45,916 staff requested. The applicant 488 00:18:45,916 --> 00:18:47,418 provide a noise study. After 489 00:18:47,418 --> 00:18:48,919 receiving numerous complaints 490 00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:51,121 to evaluate the use of the 491 00:18:51,121 --> 00:18:52,560 temporary chillers. From the 492 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,424 end of FEBRUARY through the 493 00:18:53,424 --> 00:18:55,590 beginning of APRIL, city staff 494 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:56,693 received about a dozen noise 495 00:18:56,693 --> 00:18:57,861 complaints received relating to 496 00:18:57,861 --> 00:18:59,531 the noise generated from the 497 00:18:59,531 --> 00:19:02,132 site, primarily due to the 498 00:19:02,132 --> 00:19:03,735 operation of the chillers. City 499 00:19:03,735 --> 00:19:05,369 has adopted Minnesota Pollution 500 00:19:05,369 --> 00:19:06,704 Control Agency noise level 501 00:19:06,704 --> 00:19:09,704 standards as called out in 502 00:19:10,207 --> 00:19:11,408 state statutes. The initial esi 503 00:19:11,408 --> 00:19:13,808 engineering noise study that 504 00:19:14,212 --> 00:19:15,300 was provided to staff. And 505 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:16,393 here 506 00:19:16,393 --> 00:19:17,582 s the Minnesota Pollution 507 00:19:17,582 --> 00:19:19,982 Control noise standards that 508 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:24,850 are basically adopted in code. 509 00:19:24,255 --> 00:19:26,560 As part of state statutes. So 510 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,827 the esi engineering noise study 511 00:19:28,827 --> 00:19:31,196 that was provided in MARCH did 512 00:19:31,196 --> 00:19:33,364 demonstrate upon their analysis 513 00:19:33,364 --> 00:19:36,364 that noise generated from the 514 00:19:36,735 --> 00:19:38,603 chillers would exceed basically, 515 00:19:38,603 --> 00:19:39,903 those shown in red would 516 00:19:39,903 --> 00:19:42,303 exceed. Basically the noise 517 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:45,744 standards both within the l ten 518 00:19:45,744 --> 00:19:49,344 and the l 50 levels. As noted 519 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:52,160 within the MPCa requirements. 520 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,142 So all of those numbers that 521 00:19:53,142 --> 00:19:55,190 are shown in red, that 522 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:56,521 basically shows that there is 523 00:19:56,521 --> 00:19:58,556 those chillers would basically 524 00:19:58,556 --> 00:19:59,858 be violating those MPCa 525 00:19:59,858 --> 00:20:02,160 standards. So it was their 526 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,162 recommendation that a 20 foot 527 00:20:04,162 --> 00:20:05,597 temporary noise wall should be 528 00:20:05,597 --> 00:20:08,166 constructed on the property to 529 00:20:08,166 --> 00:20:09,768 provide that noise mitigation 530 00:20:09,768 --> 00:20:11,202 or attenuation of that noise in 531 00:20:11,202 --> 00:20:14,202 order to reach those reach 532 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:18,209 those standards. So city staff 533 00:20:18,209 --> 00:20:19,612 received an updated noise study 534 00:20:19,612 --> 00:20:22,120 conducted the weekend before 535 00:20:23,114 --> 00:20:23,933 the apec meeting last week. And 536 00:20:23,933 --> 00:20:25,717 here 537 00:20:25,717 --> 00:20:27,919 s the basically the noise 538 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:29,921 wall. So the basically 539 00:20:29,921 --> 00:20:32,223 scaffolding was built around 540 00:20:32,223 --> 00:20:33,725 the three fourths of the 541 00:20:33,725 --> 00:20:36,125 perimeter. Basically that north 542 00:20:36,561 --> 00:20:38,961 side facing the residential 543 00:20:38,997 --> 00:20:40,950 land uses. And here 544 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:41,311 s a 3d 545 00:20:41,311 --> 00:20:43,311 rendering showing that 546 00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:45,701 scaffolding. This shows 547 00:20:45,838 --> 00:20:47,505 basically those panels being 548 00:20:47,505 --> 00:20:49,340 applied or basically affixed to 549 00:20:49,340 --> 00:20:51,740 that scaffolding to provide 550 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,290 that attenuation to the north. 551 00:20:54,290 --> 00:20:54,754 And here 552 00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:57,154 s just a different 553 00:20:57,182 --> 00:20:59,784 angle. So that scaffolding what 554 00:20:59,784 --> 00:21:00,853 did mt city standards. And 555 00:21:00,853 --> 00:21:02,721 they did provide additional 556 00:21:02,721 --> 00:21:04,890 information basically to meet 557 00:21:04,890 --> 00:21:06,357 when load requirements. And so 558 00:21:06,357 --> 00:21:08,360 so the state did issue a 559 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:09,561 building permit basically to 560 00:21:09,561 --> 00:21:11,297 address a lot of the noise in 561 00:21:11,297 --> 00:21:12,964 the complaints that were 562 00:21:12,964 --> 00:21:15,700 received from some of the 563 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:17,200 residents. And then these are 564 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,969 the panels that basically are 565 00:21:17,969 --> 00:21:20,369 affixed to that, that 566 00:21:21,306 --> 00:21:23,706 scaffolding. So following the 567 00:21:25,144 --> 00:21:26,679 construction of t noise wall, 568 00:21:26,679 --> 00:21:29,782 Issi engineering did go out and 569 00:21:29,782 --> 00:21:32,685 complete a follow up noise 570 00:21:32,685 --> 00:21:34,685 udy. Basically indating 571 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,890 that now the numbers basically 572 00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:41,159 taken during one point in tim 573 00:21:41,159 --> 00:21:42,728 on Ail 25th, in the mide of 574 00:21:42,728 --> 00:21:44,797 morning. I do wan to note that 575 00:21:44,797 --> 00:21:46,799 it was from 3 a.M to abo 4 576 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:48,734 m.,hich is the more 577 00:21:48,734 --> 00:21:50,970 stringent noi standar from 578 00:21:50,970 --> 00:21:53,500 the MPCa tt basically the 579 00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:55,500 noise mitigation haseen 580 00:21:56,740 --> 00:21:57,810 achiedor the site. With the 581 00:21:57,810 --> 00:22:00,211 plication of that, that noise 582 00:22:00,211 --> 00:22:02,140 wall, a couple of other things 583 00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:03,249 that staff jus want to point 584 00:22:03,249 --> 00:22:05,184 out with this report again, 585 00:22:05,184 --> 00:22:08,220 that this was just a single 586 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:09,688 point in time. On Apr 25th, 587 00:22:09,688 --> 00:22:12,880 between the hours of 588 00:22:12,191 --> 00:22:13,359 essentially 3 a.M and A.M. 589 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,927 And the tperature a that 590 00:22:14,927 --> 00:22:17,960 me was 48 degrees, a noted 591 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,364 within the whin the noise 592 00:22:19,364 --> 00:22:20,800 study itself.He evaluation 593 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,734 did not iicate indicate how 594 00:22:22,734 --> 00:22:24,336 many chillers wer in operati 595 00:22:24,336 --> 00:22:26,439 at the time of the noise 596 00:22:26,439 --> 00:22:27,940 reading. And staff doe note 597 00:22:27,940 --> 00:22:29,675 that operation of the chiers 598 00:22:29,675 --> 00:22:31,770 is partly dependent on the 599 00:22:31,770 --> 00:22:32,440 ily temperature,umidity 600 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,446 levels, and the number of 601 00:22:33,446 --> 00:22:35,446 serversn operationt the 602 00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:38,784 ti. To name a few facto. 603 00:22:38,784 --> 00:22:40,519 Included in the conditions of 604 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:41,788 the ipi does allow for flow 605 00:22:41,788 --> 00:22:44,188 up nse monoring and 606 00:22:44,223 --> 00:22:46,623 evaluation by esa esi 607 00:22:46,826 --> 00:22:49,226 engineing, as detmined by 608 00:22:51,363 --> 00:22:54,333 city staff. City has issued 609 00:22:54,333 --> 00:22:56,333 viation lettersnd received 610 00:22:57,537 --> 00:22:59,806 an issued citation. To the 611 00:22:59,806 --> 00:23:01,806 applicant. And theepresenting 612 00:23:02,641 --> 00:23:03,977 agent, Eagan Capit llc 613 00:23:03,977 --> 00:23:05,611 citing violaon of the Noise 614 00:23:05,611 --> 00:23:07,780 Pollution regulations and work 615 00:23:07,780 --> 00:23:09,882 thout a pert. That cition 616 00:23:09,882 --> 00:23:12,282 is crentlyending at Dota 617 00:23:16,550 --> 00:23:17,791 County Crt. S as part of the 618 00:23:17,791 --> 00:23:19,892 zong analysis, there are two 619 00:23:19,892 --> 00:23:22,292 land use consideration before 620 00:23:23,195 --> 00:23:25,164 council One,he iep request 621 00:23:25,164 --> 00:23:28,164 self. And then whatas come 622 00:23:28,501 --> 00:23:30,871 up durin staff review and ap 623 00:23:30,871 --> 00:23:32,638 consideration is the land use 624 00:23:32,638 --> 00:23:35,174 and complnce with city. City 625 00:23:35,174 --> 00:23:38,174 zoning. So as indicated, the 626 00:23:38,210 --> 00:23:39,479 opertys zoned Ad reseah 627 00:23:39,479 --> 00:23:41,314 and development, wch t 628 00:23:41,314 --> 00:23:42,849 intent of that zon distrt is 629 00:23:42,849 --> 00:23:44,317 for professnalesearch and 630 00:23:44,317 --> 00:23:45,519 developmen and lited 631 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,200 industrial structure and 632 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,955 operatio, which wl be 633 00:23:48,955 --> 00:23:50,900 compatib wit the 634 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:51,258 prominantly residential 635 00:23:51,258 --> 00:23:53,126 aracter ofhe surrounding 636 00:23:53,126 --> 00:23:55,128 areas so as to preserve for the 637 00:23:55,128 --> 00:23:56,496 residentsf the city the full 638 00:23:56,496 --> 00:23:59,132 use, benit and enjoyment of 639 00:23:59,132 --> 00:24:01,134 their homesnd property. Tt 640 00:24:01,134 --> 00:24:02,769 is a description taken from 641 00:24:02,769 --> 00:24:05,169 city ce ofhe zon 642 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:07,808 distct. Lited iustrial 643 00:24:07,808 --> 00:24:09,810 structures are allowed in the d 644 00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:10,777 zone onl I conjunction with 645 00:24:10,777 --> 00:24:12,579 research and development 646 00:24:12,579 --> 00:24:14,579 laboratories and agriculral 647 00:24:14,714 --> 00:24:16,490 tivitiesssociated with 648 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:17,417 resear a development, 649 00:24:17,417 --> 00:24:19,190 neither o which is currently 650 00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:21,419 ocrring within withi the 651 00:24:22,556 --> 00:24:24,956 building. Dataenters are n 652 00:24:24,991 --> 00:24:26,860 explicit listed asermitted. 653 00:24:26,860 --> 00:24:28,695 Accessory use, nor are they 654 00:24:28,695 --> 00:24:30,897 listed as permitted primaryse 655 00:24:30,897 --> 00:24:33,330 or principal use. Pt of the 656 00:24:33,330 --> 00:24:35,836 reason why the city ultimately 657 00:24:35,836 --> 00:24:37,137 implemented the moratorm. The 658 00:24:37,137 --> 00:24:38,672 primar u a the 659 00:24:38,672 --> 00:24:40,410 predominantly and predomint 660 00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:42,576 occupancy of the building has 661 00:24:42,576 --> 00:24:44,579 been as anffice. The Unisys 662 00:24:44,579 --> 00:24:46,800 data center, or comter center 663 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,181 was consided as an accesso 664 00:24:48,181 --> 00:24:50,751 to the priry use o the 665 00:24:50,751 --> 00:24:53,151 office. Based on zoning 666 00:24:53,221 --> 00:24:54,622 definition,s neither the 667 00:24:54,622 --> 00:24:56,557 evious nor current property 668 00:24:56,557 --> 00:24:58,925 owne has requested a changen 669 00:24:58,925 --> 00:25:00,995 land use or zonin The primary 670 00:25:00,995 --> 00:25:03,297 use of t site rains. Office. 671 00:25:03,297 --> 00:25:05,766 Accessory uses must occupy no 672 00:25:05,766 --> 00:25:06,920 more than 4 of the building 673 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,968 s 674 00:25:07,968 --> 00:25:10,368 squa footage.Er zong 675 00:25:11,572 --> 00:25:13,240 code. And thatccessory uses 676 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,876 st be rsonably necessary 677 00:25:14,876 --> 00:25:17,677 and incidtal to t conduct 678 00:25:17,677 --> 00:25:20,181 the prima or mn use of 679 00:25:20,181 --> 00:25:22,116 the buiing. Staff did 680 00:25:22,116 --> 00:25:23,151 estimate basally the amot 681 00:25:23,151 --> 00:25:23,986 of sque footage within t 682 00:25:23,986 --> 00:25:24,935 building. That 683 00:25:24,935 --> 00:25:26,935 s basical 684 00:25:27,530 --> 00:25:28,955 dedicated f data centers or 685 00:25:28,955 --> 00:25:30,291 the mechanical rooms supportg 686 00:25:30,291 --> 00:25:31,992 the dataenters. At 687 00:25:31,992 --> 00:25:33,992 apoximately 46% of t 688 00:25:34,610 --> 00:25:36,610 overall squareootagef the 689 00:25:36,164 --> 00:25:37,931 building. That does include the 690 00:25:37,931 --> 00:25:39,433 raed floor area for the 691 00:25:39,433 --> 00:25:41,334 server Also, the mechacal 692 00:25:41,334 --> 00:25:43,734 roomhat help operate the 693 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,339 ta center. However the 694 00:25:45,339 --> 00:25:47,750 office portion o the building, 695 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,770 on fullyccupied by Usys 696 00:25:49,770 --> 00:25:51,770 employee is nowntirely 697 00:25:51,312 --> 00:25:53,381 vacant. Save for a small area 698 00:25:53,381 --> 00:25:54,448 for dedicated staff responsle 699 00:25:54,448 --> 00:25:56,551 forhe operation of the data 700 00:25:56,551 --> 00:25:57,652 center Additiolly, the 701 00:25:57,652 --> 00:25:59,420 property owner hasiven no 702 00:25:59,420 --> 00:26:01,456 indication totaff of Re 703 00:26:01,456 --> 00:26:02,457 occupying t offic portion of 704 00:26:02,457 --> 00:26:04,459 theuilding, thus making t 705 00:26:04,459 --> 00:26:06,859 data cenr therincipal use 706 00:26:07,495 --> 00:26:09,970 the property. The IEPust 707 00:26:09,970 --> 00:26:11,497 meet the perfoance standards 708 00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:14,102 for outdoor storage. But also 709 00:26:14,102 --> 00:26:15,336 the revw critea for the iep 710 00:26:15,336 --> 00:26:17,736 and additiona standar for 711 00:26:18,773 --> 00:26:21,175 granting a conditional use. The 712 00:26:21,175 --> 00:26:23,211 p standds can generally are 713 00:26:23,211 --> 00:26:24,712 generally he been met, say, 714 00:26:24,712 --> 00:26:27,712 for criteria number five that 715 00:26:28,116 --> 00:26:30,485 references the c standards 716 00:26:30,485 --> 00:26:32,153 which rd the use meets the 717 00:26:32,153 --> 00:26:33,454 stdards set forth in t 718 00:26:33,454 --> 00:26:34,756 zoningegulations here in 719 00:26:34,756 --> 00:26:36,756 verningonditional use 720 00:26:37,191 --> 00:26:39,527 permits. A part ofhat Cop 721 00:26:39,527 --> 00:26:40,995 review criria. Nber one 722 00:26:40,995 --> 00:26:42,730 states that itill not b 723 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:45,730 detrimenta to or endanger the 724 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,136 public healt. Rea in part. 725 00:26:48,136 --> 00:26:51,600 Also, the cp riew critea 726 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,242 ates that the use will also 727 00:26:53,242 --> 00:26:54,842 use not involvectivities, 728 00:26:54,842 --> 00:26:56,842 press merials, equipnt, 729 00:26:57,245 --> 00:26:59,645 and condition of operation. 730 00:26:59,681 --> 00:27:01,183 Thatill be detrimental to t 731 00:27:01,183 --> 00:27:02,684 general welfare bause of 732 00:27:02,684 --> 00:27:04,684 excessive production ofraffic, 733 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,321 noise, smoke fumes, glare or 734 00:27:07,321 --> 00:27:09,425 odors.O those are cerinly 735 00:27:09,425 --> 00:27:11,459 two criteria that cou be 736 00:27:11,459 --> 00:27:14,459 nsidered as part o t 737 00:27:14,596 --> 00:27:16,996 consideratn of the iep 738 00:27:18,990 --> 00:27:20,101 Tonight, partlyhe noise wall 739 00:27:20,101 --> 00:27:22,703 does help mitigate some of the 740 00:27:22,703 --> 00:27:24,840 noise attenuaon. Meeting the 741 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,684 MPCa standards However, it 742 00:27:25,684 --> 00:27:27,443 s 743 00:27:27,443 --> 00:27:29,678 been notic tha ooing noise 744 00:27:29,678 --> 00:27:31,612 and vibration that maybe meet 745 00:27:31,612 --> 00:27:33,981 mpa standards MAY still 746 00:27:33,981 --> 00:27:35,951 continue toasically impac or 747 00:27:35,951 --> 00:27:36,884 afct srounding residents, 748 00:27:36,884 --> 00:27:38,654 even thoug thathose 749 00:27:38,654 --> 00:27:41,540 stanrds, those are meeting 750 00:27:41,456 --> 00:27:42,758 the mpc standards So at the 751 00:27:42,758 --> 00:27:44,758 Advisory Planningommission o 752 00:27:44,859 --> 00:27:47,663 Apri 28th, during the public 753 00:27:47,663 --> 00:27:48,797 hearing, the public comment, 754 00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:50,365 there were publi comments from 755 00:27:50,365 --> 00:27:51,600 14 of the appximately 50 756 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,000 residents in aendance at 757 00:27:54,168 --> 00:27:55,336 nit.He primary concern 758 00:27:55,336 --> 00:27:57,500 we the continuous nse 759 00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,374 levels and impact ofuality o 760 00:27:59,374 --> 00:28:01,642 life, constant vibration and 761 00:28:01,642 --> 00:28:02,911 hum of equipnt, future gwth 762 00:28:02,911 --> 00:28:05,247 of the data center along wh 763 00:28:05,247 --> 00:28:06,782 future site improvements. 764 00:28:06,782 --> 00:28:08,250 Questionsf appropriateoning 765 00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:09,852 for data centers and the 766 00:28:09,852 --> 00:28:11,852 environmental impacts relat 767 00:28:12,153 --> 00:28:15,523 to the operation o the dat 768 00:28:15,523 --> 00:28:17,960 ceer. So the apc ultimately 769 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,595 voted to recommend denial on a 770 00:28:19,595 --> 00:28:21,997 six yr old ve of the iep. 771 00:28:21,997 --> 00:28:23,832 After an initial vote to 772 00:28:23,832 --> 00:28:26,100 approv the iep fled and a 773 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,536 one five vote. They cited the 774 00:28:27,536 --> 00:28:28,804 followin findings. 775 00:28:28,804 --> 00:28:30,339 Insuicient information 776 00:28:30,339 --> 00:28:32,241 regarding future plans for the 777 00:28:32,241 --> 00:28:33,475 site. Noise impaco 778 00:28:33,475 --> 00:28:35,277 surroundg residents and 779 00:28:35,277 --> 00:28:36,478 pact touality of life. 780 00:28:36,478 --> 00:28:38,478 Imcts and surroding 781 00:28:38,647 --> 00:28:39,901 residential areas are 782 00:28:39,901 --> 00:28:41,132 inconsistent wh the 783 00:28:41,132 --> 00:28:42,951 Coitional u Permit 784 00:28:42,951 --> 00:28:44,486 requirement that the pposal 785 00:28:44,486 --> 00:28:46,722 will quote, will not be 786 00:28:46,722 --> 00:28:47,689 trimental to or endanger the 787 00:28:47,689 --> 00:28:49,292 public health, safetyr 788 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:51,127 genera welfare of the 789 00:28:51,127 --> 00:28:52,561 neighborhood ority. And 790 00:28:52,561 --> 00:28:54,296 finally, tha the use does not 791 00:28:54,296 --> 00:28:55,798 pear to be consistent wit 792 00:28:55,798 --> 00:28:57,433 the r d zonin and therefore 793 00:28:57,433 --> 00:28:59,350 doesot meet the cup 794 00:28:59,350 --> 00:29:00,803 requirement that the proposal 795 00:29:00,803 --> 00:29:03,203 will bearmonious wit the 796 00:29:03,672 --> 00:29:05,140 general and applicable specific 797 00:29:05,140 --> 00:29:06,252 objectives of t Comprehensive 798 00:29:06,252 --> 00:29:08,811 Plan in the city code 799 00:29:08,811 --> 00:29:10,180 provision. So wit that, will 800 00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:13,180 conclude. I doant to not 801 00:29:14,384 --> 00:29:16,180 at that the date, action date 802 00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:19,180 deadline, which wasot part of 803 00:29:20,556 --> 00:29:22,692 thour memo is JUNE 17th of 804 00:29:22,692 --> 00:29:23,793 this year. So noticed that 805 00:29:23,793 --> 00:29:25,261 that did not make theover 806 00:29:25,261 --> 00:29:26,628 memo, but that is the action 807 00:29:26,628 --> 00:29:28,628 deadline for tonight 808 00:29:32,268 --> 00:29:34,268 s iep. 809 00:29:34,703 --> 00:29:36,940 Judging by the volum of 810 00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:38,940 docuntation tt the 811 00:29:39,241 --> 00:29:40,442 apicantubmitted yesteay 812 00:29:40,442 --> 00:29:43,442 afternoon, assume you want t 813 00:30:12,742 --> 00:30:14,344 add to tha presentation. 814 00:30:14,344 --> 00:30:15,478 MR. MAY,embersf the 815 00:30:15,478 --> 00:30:16,446 counl. My nam is Micha 816 00:30:16,446 --> 00:30:17,440 Maulies. I 817 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,815 m with Newton Rez 818 00:30:18,815 --> 00:30:20,815 ll and I 819 00:30:21,484 --> 00:30:23,190 m here on behalf of 820 00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:25,419 Aeon Cital, whichs the 821 00:30:26,990 --> 00:30:27,931 owner o the property. There 822 00:30:27,931 --> 00:30:29,359 s 823 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:31,261 been a lot of infortion 824 00:30:31,261 --> 00:30:34,861 presend t theo the to the 825 00:30:35,497 --> 00:30:37,834 ci, bot from staff and from 826 00:30:37,834 --> 00:30:39,204 Ian Cital. And there 827 00:30:39,204 --> 00:30:40,537 s goi 828 00:30:40,537 --> 00:30:42,500 to be lot ofiscussion. 829 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:43,573 Presumably on a on a numr of 830 00:30:43,573 --> 00:30:44,690 topics tight. But 831 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:45,541 d like to 832 00:30:45,541 --> 00:30:46,409 I 833 00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:49,813 d like to focus on several 834 00:30:49,813 --> 00:30:53,413 issues. The first issue is that 835 00:30:53,516 --> 00:30:55,985 this propert has bn and has 836 00:30:55,985 --> 00:30:58,288 always been a data center. It 837 00:30:58,288 --> 00:31:00,900 was opened as a data center. It 838 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:01,358 was orated as aata center. 839 00:31:01,358 --> 00:31:03,393 If you loo at the cerficates 840 00:31:03,393 --> 00:31:04,861 of occupancyor this prorty, 841 00:31:04,861 --> 00:31:06,329 theirst thing that you see on 842 00:31:06,329 --> 00:31:09,929 them is a computer center or 843 00:31:11,901 --> 00:31:13,536 dataenter. We seriously and 844 00:31:13,536 --> 00:31:15,710 strongly disagree with the 845 00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:17,574 suggestion that this I an 846 00:31:17,574 --> 00:31:19,420 accessory u ton office. We 847 00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:21,420 think that theccessoryse 848 00:31:22,379 --> 00:31:25,379 designation has been grafted on 849 00:31:27,717 --> 00:31:29,619 to the. To the tohe 850 00:31:29,619 --> 00:31:31,870 situatn. And think tt if 851 00:31:31,870 --> 00:31:32,255 yo look at the hisry o the 852 00:31:32,255 --> 00:31:34,891 wa that this prorty has been 853 00:31:34,891 --> 00:31:37,891 used, it has consistently and 854 00:31:39,462 --> 00:31:43,620 and andlways been use as a, 855 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,802 as a dataenter. That said, 856 00:31:44,802 --> 00:31:47,838 even if you were to u an 857 00:31:47,838 --> 00:31:49,373 accessory applicaon, iteets 858 00:31:49,373 --> 00:31:52,376 it meets that, it meets tha 859 00:31:52,376 --> 00:31:53,197 test. The second thinghat I 860 00:31:53,197 --> 00:31:55,197 d 861 00:31:56,679 --> 00:31:59,249 like to focus on is tt the 862 00:31:59,249 --> 00:32:01,552 considerion tonight isor an 863 00:32:01,552 --> 00:32:02,720 interim use pmit. You 864 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,787 reave 865 00:32:03,787 --> 00:32:05,255 a number of pple here who are 866 00:32:05,255 --> 00:32:07,857 ing to talk to you about 867 00:32:07,857 --> 00:32:09,226 eir concerns. And, and w 868 00:32:09,226 --> 00:32:11,226 sharehe concerns thathey 869 00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:14,640 have about how the impacts of 870 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,566 dataentersnd,nd a 871 00:32:15,566 --> 00:32:17,634 sinesses on the community. 872 00:32:17,634 --> 00:32:20,400 And I know that t city has 873 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,405 city council, h passed a 874 00:32:21,405 --> 00:32:22,346 moratorium. And the next year 875 00:32:22,346 --> 00:32:23,223 u 876 00:32:23,223 --> 00:32:24,975 re going toearn a lot 877 00:32:24,975 --> 00:32:28,478 about data centers and how the 878 00:32:28,478 --> 00:32:29,447 operat Tonight,hough, I 879 00:32:29,447 --> 00:32:30,278 want to underscehat the 880 00:32:30,278 --> 00:32:31,480 on issue that we 881 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,817 re really 882 00:32:32,817 --> 00:32:34,817 talking abouts whethern 883 00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:37,555 interim ierim use permit 884 00:32:37,555 --> 00:32:39,490 shou be granted Now, there 885 00:32:39,490 --> 00:32:40,891 e a lot ofopics about the 886 00:32:40,891 --> 00:32:42,159 goods a the bads and the 887 00:32:42,159 --> 00:32:44,462 pluses andinuses of data 888 00:32:44,462 --> 00:32:45,863 centers.Nd that 889 00:32:45,863 --> 00:32:47,640 s not really 890 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,330 the the topic for the 891 00:32:49,330 --> 00:32:50,234 diussion tonight. Beyond 892 00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:53,234 that, which applies to the 893 00:32:56,974 --> 00:32:58,104 interim useermit. Whe w 894 00:32:58,104 --> 00:33:00,644 wa to talk a ltle bit abo 895 00:33:00,644 --> 00:33:03,440 thehillers for aecond, the 896 00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:05,449 chlers are water bed 897 00:33:05,449 --> 00:33:08,850 chillers on top of the 898 00:33:08,850 --> 00:33:10,688 ilding,nd they hav end 899 00:33:10,688 --> 00:33:13,491 their the useful life. Wn 900 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:16,491 we applied for an pertor 901 00:33:17,294 --> 00:33:19,930 th for the mechanical permit 902 00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:21,932 at the end of DECEMBER for the 903 00:33:21,932 --> 00:33:23,100 interior of the building to 904 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,568 reace somef the chiller 905 00:33:24,568 --> 00:33:27,400 lines there, we recognid that 906 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,807 the chillerines going up to 907 00:33:28,807 --> 00:33:29,857 the rftop chierseren 908 00:33:29,857 --> 00:33:30,919 t 909 00:33:30,919 --> 00:33:31,942 going to work,nd the rooft 910 00:33:31,942 --> 00:33:32,887 chillers had had rched the 911 00:33:32,887 --> 00:33:34,813 end of their usel life. 912 00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:37,813 Sorry. Can you rept that? 913 00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:39,383 Realid that the rooftop 914 00:33:39,383 --> 00:33:40,786 chillers had reach the end of 915 00:33:40,786 --> 00:33:44,386 their life. As we were srting 916 00:33:46,758 --> 00:33:47,816 to work on the the. Interior 917 00:33:47,816 --> 00:33:48,652 improvemen. 918 00:33:48,652 --> 00:33:49,610 Okay. 919 00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:50,667 When was that? 920 00:33:50,667 --> 00:33:51,662 I apologize. 921 00:33:51,662 --> 00:33:52,776 As weere as we were working 922 00:33:52,776 --> 00:33:53,721 on the interior improvements. 923 00:33:53,721 --> 00:33:55,100 Thank you. 924 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,103 N you can you speak up? 925 00:33:56,103 --> 00:33:57,930 Okay. 926 00:33:57,930 --> 00:33:58,202 M sorry. 927 00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:00,202 Than you. 928 00:34:02,441 --> 00:34:04,141 The Chiller that were 929 00:34:04,141 --> 00:34:05,944 installed in the on the on the 930 00:34:05,944 --> 00:34:07,779 rotop of the building are old 931 00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:09,847 styl chillers. Been thereor 932 00:34:09,847 --> 00:34:12,247 a lg time. Theyse 933 00:34:12,651 --> 00:34:14,651 approximatel.4 million 934 00:34:15,654 --> 00:34:18,654 gallons of water a year. 2.4 935 00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:20,417 million gallo of water. 936 00:34:20,417 --> 00:34:21,403 The 937 00:34:21,403 --> 00:34:23,803 s much more. Better 938 00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:25,563 modern technolognd t 939 00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:27,265 decision was made to rlace 940 00:34:27,265 --> 00:34:28,300 those chiller y had had to 941 00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:29,174 reace them. And what the 942 00:34:29,174 --> 00:34:30,302 questi was, what weere 943 00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:31,503 going t place them with, going 944 00:34:31,503 --> 00:34:32,871 to replacehem with a closed 945 00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:33,830 system that doesn 946 00:34:33,830 --> 00:34:35,407 t use water, 947 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:36,575 it use refrigerant. And 948 00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:37,710 basically, oe the 949 00:34:37,710 --> 00:34:39,244 re filled, 950 00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:40,309 us no water at all. We 951 00:34:40,309 --> 00:34:42,309 ve 952 00:34:43,547 --> 00:34:45,617 bmitted into theecord a 953 00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:48,687 report from council or from a 954 00:34:48,687 --> 00:34:50,422 fr appropriate engineer that 955 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:52,858 certifies tt instead of using 956 00:34:52,858 --> 00:34:54,121 4 o 2.7 million galns o 957 00:34:54,121 --> 00:34:55,861 water year, this will 958 00:34:55,861 --> 00:34:57,893 bacally use no water here. 959 00:34:57,893 --> 00:34:58,724 It 960 00:34:58,724 --> 00:35:00,365 s a good and smart 961 00:35:00,365 --> 00:35:02,000 environmenta choice to make. 962 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,236 When w instaed those 963 00:35:04,236 --> 00:35:05,436 chillers, we didn 964 00:35:05,436 --> 00:35:06,405 t belve we 965 00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:07,580 needed a pert. Thereasn 966 00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:08,664 t 967 00:35:08,664 --> 00:35:09,807 an electrical permit. There 968 00:35:09,807 --> 00:35:11,263 wasn 969 00:35:11,263 --> 00:35:13,578 t a mechacal permit to 970 00:35:13,578 --> 00:35:17,178 be had Staff tolds that we 971 00:35:18,283 --> 00:35:20,510 needed an iup. We dagree to 972 00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:22,451 so extent. Not toome 973 00:35:23,689 --> 00:35:26,890 extente disage tha aup 974 00:35:26,758 --> 00:35:29,158 isctually called for her 975 00:35:29,561 --> 00:35:31,730 en we looke at the statutory 976 00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:32,999 language that it permits the 977 00:35:32,999 --> 00:35:34,999 overnight stora of 978 00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:37,837 rchandise, splies, 979 00:35:37,837 --> 00:35:39,905 mateals, fished goods or 980 00:35:39,905 --> 00:35:42,207 inventory, o other movable 981 00:35:42,207 --> 00:35:43,738 propty o motor vehicles 982 00:35:43,738 --> 00:35:45,374 doesn 983 00:35:45,374 --> 00:35:46,827 t really fit that 984 00:35:46,827 --> 00:35:48,827 definition. These are 985 00:35:49,182 --> 00:35:50,592 mechanical stems tha serve 986 00:35:50,592 --> 00:35:52,800 the building. The 987 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,419 re not 988 00:35:53,419 --> 00:35:54,814 finished goods on a pallet. 989 00:35:54,814 --> 00:35:55,891 Th 990 00:35:55,891 --> 00:35:57,151 re not truck being parked 991 00:35:57,151 --> 00:35:58,657 overnit.Nd Ihink weave 992 00:35:58,657 --> 00:35:59,891 the right and the ality to 993 00:35:59,891 --> 00:36:01,470 matain the electrical and 994 00:36:01,470 --> 00:36:03,447 mechanical systems of the 995 00:36:04,262 --> 00:36:06,262 building. Nonheless, within 996 00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:09,201 days after receiving aotice 997 00:36:09,201 --> 00:36:11,237 from the planng deptment 998 00:36:11,237 --> 00:36:13,338 that theyhought an iup was 999 00:36:13,338 --> 00:36:15,374 necessary. Wepplied for one 1000 00:36:15,374 --> 00:36:16,657 an w provided the cit all 1001 00:36:16,657 --> 00:36:18,877 the informaon tt the city 1002 00:36:18,877 --> 00:36:20,812 aske for,ncluding 1003 00:36:20,812 --> 00:36:22,208 eliminary noise studies. And 1004 00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:23,983 when the noi studies came 1005 00:36:23,983 --> 00:36:26,384 back as pnner, Sultz sai 1006 00:36:26,384 --> 00:36:27,854 th the initial noise studies 1007 00:36:27,854 --> 00:36:30,256 were bas upon the tecical 1008 00:36:30,256 --> 00:36:32,191 specificatio of t train 1009 00:36:32,191 --> 00:36:34,227 illers thatere goingo be 1010 00:36:34,227 --> 00:36:35,608 that were goi to be inslled 1011 00:36:35,608 --> 00:36:38,800 evenefore the chiers run 1012 00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:40,533 on.N place, andhose 1013 00:36:40,533 --> 00:36:42,568 suested that we would excd 1014 00:36:42,568 --> 00:36:44,568 least the nighttime 1015 00:36:46,939 --> 00:36:49,939 standards imposed by the Ma. 1016 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,745 As a rult,e desned a 1017 00:36:52,745 --> 00:36:54,547 und barrier, a to support 1018 00:36:54,547 --> 00:36:56,947 the sound barrier, we 1019 00:36:57,383 --> 00:36:58,647 established scaffolding. Sff 1020 00:36:58,647 --> 00:36:59,977 asd for us to get a 1021 00:36:59,977 --> 00:37:01,246 mechanical eineer, a 1022 00:37:01,246 --> 00:37:03,246 structur enginr, toeport 1023 00:37:03,456 --> 00:37:05,591 on the strucral nature of the 1024 00:37:05,591 --> 00:37:08,528 scaffolding. We did that. W 1025 00:37:08,528 --> 00:37:10,329 installed the we install the 1026 00:37:10,329 --> 00:37:11,798 chillers, we installed the 1027 00:37:11,798 --> 00:37:14,198 scaffolding, we installed the 1028 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:16,569 sound barrier a then we had 1029 00:37:16,569 --> 00:37:18,438 si, the snd eineer, go 1030 00:37:18,438 --> 00:37:21,438 out and do actlesting. As 1031 00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:23,930 planner, Schtz said. And the 1032 00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:25,331 report that 1033 00:37:25,331 --> 00:37:27,731 s in you file 1034 00:37:30,249 --> 00:37:33,249 indicates that that the noise 1035 00:37:33,619 --> 00:37:34,946 standards are being met. We 1036 00:37:34,946 --> 00:37:36,389 don 1037 00:37:36,389 --> 00:37:37,773 have anyther evidence 1038 00:37:37,773 --> 00:37:40,693 that the noise standards are 1039 00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:42,863 not beingdhered to. We have 1040 00:37:42,863 --> 00:37:45,863 prided the city the evince 1041 00:37:47,701 --> 00:37:48,942 and the and the expertnalysis 1042 00:37:48,942 --> 00:37:50,382 at they 1043 00:37:50,382 --> 00:37:51,610 ve asked for. If the 1044 00:37:51,610 --> 00:37:52,877 city has other tesng that 1045 00:37:52,877 --> 00:37:54,194 they 1046 00:37:54,194 --> 00:37:55,553 ve asked us to want u to 1047 00:37:55,553 --> 00:37:56,798 do, we wld certainly comply 1048 00:37:56,798 --> 00:37:58,344 with tha But w believe that 1049 00:37:58,344 --> 00:38:00,947 the testi in good faith shows 1050 00:38:00,947 --> 00:38:02,349 at the that the nse 1051 00:38:02,349 --> 00:38:04,749 standards standards are bei 1052 00:38:06,530 --> 00:38:07,720 sasfied. The other thing I 1053 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:11,320 nt to emphasize I the report 1054 00:38:12,893 --> 00:38:14,728 that the sff provided. Lis 1055 00:38:14,728 --> 00:38:17,728 all the standards tt needo 1056 00:38:18,264 --> 00:38:20,768 be satisfied in oer for the 1057 00:38:20,768 --> 00:38:22,343 interim use pmit to be to be 1058 00:38:22,343 --> 00:38:23,683 issued. And you 1059 00:38:23,683 --> 00:38:25,410 notice that 1060 00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:26,707 onach one o them,taff 1061 00:38:26,707 --> 00:38:29,707 indicated that the standard had 1062 00:38:30,209 --> 00:38:31,442 been met,nd we still take the 1063 00:38:31,442 --> 00:38:32,771 posion that the standards 1064 00:38:32,771 --> 00:38:33,988 have been met a we hav 1065 00:38:33,988 --> 00:38:35,331 t 1066 00:38:35,331 --> 00:38:38,331 en anything to the conary. 1067 00:38:38,585 --> 00:38:39,859 And we belie that. On t 1068 00:38:39,859 --> 00:38:41,922 basis of the ft that this 1069 00:38:41,922 --> 00:38:44,322 operty is being operated 1070 00:38:44,524 --> 00:38:46,280 within the zoning code, 1071 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,628 regaless of whether or not 1072 00:38:47,628 --> 00:38:49,110 you call it an aessory, use 1073 00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:50,529 or acknowledge that it 1074 00:38:50,529 --> 00:38:51,972 s been 1075 00:38:51,972 --> 00:38:53,667 used f mor than 40 years as 1076 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:55,702 a data cente and tha allhe 1077 00:38:55,702 --> 00:38:57,500 technil requirements with 1078 00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:59,105 respecto the chiller hav 1079 00:38:59,105 --> 00:39:02,142 been met We ask that this 1080 00:39:02,142 --> 00:39:03,801 permit be issd. What we 1081 00:39:03,801 --> 00:39:05,317 re 1082 00:39:05,317 --> 00:39:06,510 going to doith the future 1083 00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:07,693 with respect to a permanent 1084 00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:09,600 chillers which are uer 1085 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,247 consideration for pmit, I 1086 00:39:10,247 --> 00:39:13,487 ink is a discussion for a 1087 00:39:13,487 --> 00:39:15,887 diffent day.Hether these 1088 00:39:16,256 --> 00:39:18,920 whethe thisataenter, which 1089 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,453 probably conforms to the or 1090 00:39:19,453 --> 00:39:21,395 which does conform to the 1091 00:39:21,395 --> 00:39:23,795 moratorium exctions, is going 1092 00:39:25,333 --> 00:39:26,967 to be part of your ovell data 1093 00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:28,321 nter construct. Tt 1094 00:39:28,321 --> 00:39:29,702 s 1095 00:39:29,702 --> 00:39:31,269 somethingor the Cityouncil 1096 00:39:31,269 --> 00:39:32,639 to take ups part as par of 1097 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:34,639 its discussion, alysisf 1098 00:39:34,842 --> 00:39:36,342 da centers generally. So we 1099 00:39:36,342 --> 00:39:37,718 d 1100 00:39:37,718 --> 00:39:39,221 like to foc tonig onhe 1101 00:39:39,221 --> 00:39:40,581 iup and believe that we 1102 00:39:40,581 --> 00:39:41,893 ve 1103 00:39:41,893 --> 00:39:43,332 satisfied the in good faith, 1104 00:39:43,332 --> 00:39:44,682 the cit 1105 00:39:44,682 --> 00:39:46,550 s standards for the 1106 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:47,581 issuce ofhat permit. I 1107 00:39:47,581 --> 00:39:48,956 m 1108 00:39:48,956 --> 00:39:50,493 happy to stand for any 1109 00:39:50,493 --> 00:39:51,957 questions. And also with me 1110 00:39:51,957 --> 00:39:53,197 tonight, I should add, is 1111 00:39:53,197 --> 00:39:54,500 Howard Ralston from 1112 00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:56,250 Fredickson, who was actings 1113 00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:57,366 legal counsel f usonight. 1114 00:39:57,366 --> 00:39:58,940 Both he and I will be happy to 1115 00:39:58,940 --> 00:40:00,431 answer any questionshat you 1116 00:40:00,431 --> 00:40:02,431 ve. 1117 00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:03,769 Ank you. Michael Council. 1118 00:40:03,769 --> 00:40:05,168 I 1119 00:40:05,168 --> 00:40:06,239 ll have some. I 1120 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,473 m sure that 1121 00:40:07,473 --> 00:40:09,577 yo will alsoave som as 1122 00:40:09,577 --> 00:40:12,577 well. But queions of the 1123 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:14,227 applicant or sta and if it 1124 00:40:14,227 --> 00:40:15,613 s 1125 00:40:15,613 --> 00:40:17,165 okay, Micha, I 1126 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:18,476 ll, I 1127 00:40:18,476 --> 00:40:20,130 ll srt 1128 00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:21,453 withou. I 1129 00:40:21,453 --> 00:40:22,862 ll tryo refer to 1130 00:40:22,862 --> 00:40:24,164 you as Mhael and to him as 1131 00:40:24,164 --> 00:40:26,564 Miker MR. Schtz. We 1132 00:40:30,899 --> 00:40:32,190 figure it o. But. MAY I 1133 00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:33,487 kind ofant to go bk and 1134 00:40:33,487 --> 00:40:36,487 stt at the beginning Perps 1135 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:38,372 I. Sufficeo say, w 1136 00:40:38,372 --> 00:40:40,175 re at a 1137 00:40:40,175 --> 00:40:42,175 irly ntraditional pho 1138 00:40:43,311 --> 00:40:45,711 th meeting tonig. Fairmont 1139 00:40:47,882 --> 00:40:49,584 of confuon in details. In the 1140 00:40:49,584 --> 00:40:51,920 preding mths. And that was 1141 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,456 evident in my viewing of thef 1142 00:40:54,456 --> 00:40:56,524 th apec meeting as well. And 1143 00:40:56,524 --> 00:40:57,855 partularly challenging is 1144 00:40:57,855 --> 00:41:00,255 piecing togetherome of the 1145 00:41:01,763 --> 00:41:03,124 timelines of events. So I 1146 00:41:03,124 --> 00:41:04,441 m 1147 00:41:04,441 --> 00:41:06,501 going to ask youo maybeust 1148 00:41:06,501 --> 00:41:10,101 start at the beginning. And how 1149 00:41:11,106 --> 00:41:14,106 does. Egan capital llc guess 1150 00:41:16,445 --> 00:41:19,948 it is come to the purchase of 1151 00:41:19,948 --> 00:41:22,150 this blding. And and to 1152 00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:24,550 purchase theuilding and and 1153 00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:26,384 it closed in Novber. I assume 1154 00:41:26,384 --> 00:41:27,560 there was some ierest 1155 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,527 previous t that. Can you tell 1156 00:41:28,527 --> 00:41:29,512 me abo that,bout jus that 1157 00:41:29,512 --> 00:41:31,512 process ofcquiring the 1158 00:41:32,527 --> 00:41:34,462 propty? And what whathelc 1159 00:41:34,462 --> 00:41:36,970 was interesdn acquiring a 1160 00:41:36,970 --> 00:41:37,399 what was the business being 1161 00:41:37,399 --> 00:41:39,399 transferred fromomewhere els? 1162 00:41:40,668 --> 00:41:41,896 Or if you can kin of start 1163 00:41:41,896 --> 00:41:43,670 there, guess, ande 1164 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:44,431 ll try 1165 00:41:44,431 --> 00:41:45,754 to sort this out a littl bit. 1166 00:41:45,754 --> 00:41:47,280 MR. Mayor, I 1167 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,130 ll try and answer 1168 00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:51,730 the questns as best I can 1169 00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:54,650 Egan capital and its affiltes 1170 00:41:54,650 --> 00:41:56,185 have an intest I iron gate 1171 00:41:56,185 --> 00:41:57,987 data centers, which areata 1172 00:41:57,987 --> 00:42:00,387 nters that operate elsewhere 1173 00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:04,423 inhe Twinities. Okay. Egan 1174 00:42:05,895 --> 00:42:07,430 catal was aware thathis was 1175 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:09,830 beingperated as a data 1176 00:42:14,335 --> 00:42:16,338 center. Unisysad it for sale. 1177 00:42:16,338 --> 00:42:17,705 Unisys was operatedrimarily 1178 00:42:17,705 --> 00:42:19,790 as a data center. Wn we 1179 00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:20,509 bought I there were very few 1180 00:42:20,509 --> 00:42:22,909 employees, ver few office 1181 00:42:26,347 --> 00:42:28,350 functions. W met the offer and 1182 00:42:28,350 --> 00:42:30,785 closed o it in Novber. Okay. 1183 00:42:30,785 --> 00:42:32,880 And and intend to use I as a 1184 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,560 data center going forwa. 1185 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,560 Than you. 1186 00:42:37,393 --> 00:42:38,887 And I assume that. 1187 00:42:38,887 --> 00:42:40,323 And MAY. 1188 00:42:40,323 --> 00:42:41,853 I. 1189 00:42:41,853 --> 00:42:43,286 MAY I interrupt one time? I 1190 00:42:43,286 --> 00:42:44,830 apologize.Ot onlyo we 1191 00:42:44,830 --> 00:42:46,489 tend to opete it. Wee are 1192 00:42:46,489 --> 00:42:49,710 operatg it, and we hav a 1193 00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:50,940 tent who h occupied the 1194 00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:52,741 propertynd who has invted a 1195 00:42:52,741 --> 00:42:54,409 significant amount of money in 1196 00:42:54,409 --> 00:42:56,644 the servers that go into the 1197 00:42:56,644 --> 00:42:59,644 preparatn of a data cenr. 1198 00:42:59,749 --> 00:43:01,246 As has as has Egan Capital. So. 1199 00:43:01,246 --> 00:43:03,246 Okay. 1200 00:43:04,253 --> 00:43:05,643 An so you have one tenant. 1201 00:43:05,643 --> 00:43:06,922 One tenant. 1202 00:43:06,922 --> 00:43:08,433 Okay. 1203 00:43:08,433 --> 00:43:09,833 Thank you. 1204 00:43:09,833 --> 00:43:11,171 And whi isot unusual for 1205 00:43:11,171 --> 00:43:13,171 data centers. 1206 00:43:14,330 --> 00:43:15,731 Understandle. And a you as 1207 00:43:15,731 --> 00:43:17,154 as you can capital I don 1208 00:43:17,154 --> 00:43:18,489 t mean 1209 00:43:18,489 --> 00:43:21,160 to say y, but you 1210 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,396 representing them. So a as 1211 00:43:22,396 --> 00:43:23,677 you conside the purase. I 1212 00:43:23,677 --> 00:43:24,966 assume you d the usuue 1213 00:43:24,966 --> 00:43:26,244 ligence behd the purase. 1214 00:43:26,244 --> 00:43:27,558 Ke this. 1215 00:43:27,558 --> 00:43:28,874 I yes, I think tha 1216 00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:30,155 s a correct 1217 00:43:30,155 --> 00:43:31,427 assumpon. 1218 00:43:31,427 --> 00:43:32,693 Okay. So. 1219 00:43:32,693 --> 00:43:35,930 Sowo lels ofue diligence 1220 00:43:38,687 --> 00:43:40,200 I guess. Well, maybe three. 1221 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,299 It 1222 00:43:41,299 --> 00:43:44,427 s par of the the confusion 1223 00:43:44,427 --> 00:43:47,563 r me is that this project 1224 00:43:47,563 --> 00:43:50,433 cos through a couple of 1225 00:43:50,433 --> 00:43:52,433 different pathways thare 1226 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:56,700 fairly nontraditiona from wt 1227 00:43:58,508 --> 00:43:59,920 we ordinary would see. A the 1228 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,287 the and I 1229 00:44:01,287 --> 00:44:03,460 ll get to it. B 1230 00:44:03,460 --> 00:44:05,181 th the back a forth about 1231 00:44:05,181 --> 00:44:07,181 putting outdoor storage 1232 00:44:07,484 --> 00:44:10,870 chillers in place a operating 1233 00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:13,870 them befe havg the permit 1234 00:44:13,523 --> 00:44:16,523 is non-traditional to be my 1235 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,329 kindest. And and the fact and 1236 00:44:20,329 --> 00:44:21,964 usually with a with a a 1237 00:44:21,964 --> 00:44:23,964 buildi purpose auilding 1238 00:44:24,567 --> 00:44:26,300 purchase this lar and a 1239 00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:27,389 building that has some fairly 1240 00:44:27,389 --> 00:44:28,918 high profi in the communi. 1241 00:44:28,918 --> 00:44:31,541 I mean, it was a focus o a 1242 00:44:31,541 --> 00:44:33,941 fairly focused publi vioning 1243 00:44:35,579 --> 00:44:36,945 process. I was caut up in 1244 00:44:36,945 --> 00:44:38,578 our city 1245 00:44:38,578 --> 00:44:40,578 s general conces 1246 00:44:41,618 --> 00:44:44,618 about the officearket. It was 1247 00:44:44,621 --> 00:44:46,423 in all the papers.Ute would 1248 00:44:46,423 --> 00:44:48,425 uslly with a building that a 1249 00:44:48,425 --> 00:44:49,950 a a an investment tha large, 1250 00:44:49,950 --> 00:44:51,509 usually deal woun 1251 00:44:51,509 --> 00:44:53,509 t close 1252 00:44:56,766 --> 00:44:58,335 until the Until the pchaser 1253 00:44:58,335 --> 00:44:59,788 t the legal entitlements that 1254 00:44:59,788 --> 00:45:01,217 they needed.Ou 1255 00:45:01,217 --> 00:45:02,670 d do a 1256 00:45:02,670 --> 00:45:04,670 contingent purpose or 1257 00:45:04,708 --> 00:45:07,108 contingent purchase.Nd most 1258 00:45:07,844 --> 00:45:09,312 projects in Ean come that 1259 00:45:09,312 --> 00:45:10,906 way. And this is the first time 1260 00:45:10,906 --> 00:45:12,849 that yr client is aually 1261 00:45:12,849 --> 00:45:14,584 talking wh the city council 1262 00:45:14,584 --> 00:45:16,150 or putting in applicatis wit 1263 00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:17,705 the city.Orrect. 1264 00:45:17,705 --> 00:45:19,423 Ielieveo. Well, tre MAY 1265 00:45:19,423 --> 00:45:21,570 have been, other thanhe 1266 00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:22,759 mechanal pmits that were 1267 00:45:22,759 --> 00:45:24,431 requested after welosed. 1268 00:45:24,431 --> 00:45:26,157 Righ 1269 00:45:26,157 --> 00:45:27,515 But I mea you haven 1270 00:45:27,515 --> 00:45:29,297 t 1271 00:45:29,297 --> 00:45:30,982 bmitted anyand use 1272 00:45:30,982 --> 00:45:32,346 applicatns or any plan 1273 00:45:32,346 --> 00:45:33,827 developmen or anything le 1274 00:45:33,827 --> 00:45:35,348 that tohis council to 1275 00:45:35,348 --> 00:45:37,115 consider and toass on to 1276 00:45:37,115 --> 00:45:39,396 ensure that you would hav the 1277 00:45:39,396 --> 00:45:41,253 entlements to u the 1278 00:45:41,253 --> 00:45:43,170 property the way that you 1279 00:45:43,170 --> 00:45:45,170 wanted to.Orrect. 1280 00:45:45,194 --> 00:45:47,970 MR. Mayor, respectfully, we 1281 00:45:47,970 --> 00:45:48,789 believe thathe property is 1282 00:45:48,789 --> 00:45:50,417 zoned. 1283 00:45:50,417 --> 00:45:52,208 I 1284 00:45:52,208 --> 00:45:54,147 m not 1285 00:45:54,147 --> 00:45:55,756 m not askg what you 1286 00:45:55,756 --> 00:45:57,339 believ I 1287 00:45:57,339 --> 00:45:58,900 m askg what 1288 00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:00,717 s 1289 00:46:00,717 --> 00:46:02,586 happened. 1290 00:46:02,586 --> 00:46:04,472 Did n. 1291 00:46:04,472 --> 00:46:06,101 Okay. 1292 00:46:06,101 --> 00:46:07,620 Forhat reason, we d not. 1293 00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:09,960 I appreciat that, so. So you 1294 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,408 purchased the building.Ithout 1295 00:46:10,408 --> 00:46:11,868 any contingt. Contient on 1296 00:46:11,868 --> 00:46:13,247 on. On on entlements. 1297 00:46:13,247 --> 00:46:14,746 Corrt. 1298 00:46:14,746 --> 00:46:16,296 i can 1299 00:46:16,296 --> 00:46:17,896 t speak to what the 1300 00:46:17,896 --> 00:46:19,139 contingencies in the purchase 1301 00:46:19,139 --> 00:46:20,553 agreemt were. 1302 00:46:20,553 --> 00:46:21,915 Ca you. 1303 00:46:21,915 --> 00:46:23,562 Te me theeal has closed? 1304 00:46:23,562 --> 00:46:25,220 Correct. It I 1305 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:26,533 Okay. 1306 00:46:26,533 --> 00:46:28,111 You didn 1307 00:46:28,111 --> 00:46:29,500 t pureny 1308 00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:30,862 additionalntitlementso the 1309 00:46:30,862 --> 00:46:32,389 to the property? Correct 1310 00:46:32,389 --> 00:46:34,320 That is correct. 1311 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,331 Okay. 1312 00:46:35,331 --> 00:46:36,596 D your side, inhe due 1313 00:46:36,596 --> 00:46:37,775 diligence. Your client. I 1314 00:46:37,775 --> 00:46:39,333 assume, having been having had 1315 00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:40,548 this propert involve inome 1316 00:46:40,548 --> 00:46:41,944 fair largeommunity 1317 00:46:41,944 --> 00:46:42,999 conversatis. You did the due 1318 00:46:42,999 --> 00:46:44,631 diligenc to loo at what the 1319 00:46:44,631 --> 00:46:45,800 guiding a t zoning was on 1320 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,117 the propertyhat you were 1321 00:46:47,117 --> 00:46:48,616 purchasing. 1322 00:46:48,616 --> 00:46:50,191 I tnk you can make that 1323 00:46:50,191 --> 00:46:51,629 assumption. Yeah. 1324 00:46:51,629 --> 00:46:53,750 Okay. I 1325 00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:54,498 m not. I 1326 00:46:54,498 --> 00:46:55,839 m asking you 1327 00:46:55,839 --> 00:46:57,287 not if you think I can make 1328 00:46:57,287 --> 00:46:58,550 that assumptio Did you look 1329 00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:59,758 into the entlements? 1330 00:46:59,758 --> 00:47:01,299 I 1331 00:47:01,299 --> 00:47:02,723 I 1332 00:47:02,723 --> 00:47:04,116 m cerinhat that Eden 1333 00:47:04,116 --> 00:47:05,549 Capital looked at how the 1334 00:47:05,549 --> 00:47:06,676 operty was zoned and how it 1335 00:47:06,676 --> 00:47:07,903 was being used. 1336 00:47:07,903 --> 00:47:09,640 I 1337 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,349 m sor. How was how my 1338 00:47:10,349 --> 00:47:11,701 qution was guided and zoned. 1339 00:47:11,701 --> 00:47:12,935 Did y look into that? 1340 00:47:12,935 --> 00:47:14,145 How was guided and how it was 1341 00:47:14,145 --> 00:47:15,180 zoned? And as it affected the 1342 00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:16,467 intended use o the property? 1343 00:47:16,467 --> 00:47:17,574 Allight. So you cite the 1344 00:47:17,574 --> 00:47:18,731 certificate of occupcy as the 1345 00:47:18,731 --> 00:47:19,838 the leading indicator that it 1346 00:47:19,838 --> 00:47:20,932 s 1347 00:47:20,932 --> 00:47:22,133 a data center,orrect? 1348 00:47:22,133 --> 00:47:24,133 s. From 1987 and 198 1349 00:47:24,782 --> 00:47:26,250 And I. Jus for tho in the 1350 00:47:26,250 --> 00:47:27,126 room who who don 1351 00:47:27,126 --> 00:47:28,586 t follow these 1352 00:47:28,586 --> 00:47:30,755 kis of things, what is thi 1353 00:47:30,755 --> 00:47:32,890 certifice of oupancy. 1354 00:47:32,890 --> 00:47:33,291 Certify. What is it? What is it 1355 00:47:33,291 --> 00:47:35,291 entitle.? 1356 00:47:35,426 --> 00:47:37,426 The certificaf occupancy 1357 00:47:38,529 --> 00:47:40,498 indicated that the standards 1358 00:47:40,498 --> 00:47:42,633 for oration,or openi and 1359 00:47:42,633 --> 00:47:44,633 conductingusiness ashey 1360 00:47:46,871 --> 00:47:47,933 exted in 1987, 1988, were 1361 00:47:47,933 --> 00:47:49,740 met. 1362 00:47:49,740 --> 00:47:50,967 From aut from a from a but 1363 00:47:50,967 --> 00:47:52,237 it 1364 00:47:52,237 --> 00:47:53,481 s from building code is a 1365 00:47:53,481 --> 00:47:54,863 ceificate of occupancy. It 1366 00:47:54,863 --> 00:47:56,848 ceifies that the space can be 1367 00:47:56,848 --> 00:47:58,186 safely occupie Well it peopl 1368 00:47:58,186 --> 00:48:00,186 correct. 1369 00:48:00,518 --> 00:48:01,688 Yes. But the relevance please. 1370 00:48:01,688 --> 00:48:03,610 I 1371 00:48:03,610 --> 00:48:05,857 llsk the question to your 1372 00:48:05,857 --> 00:48:07,892 mind. So in real estate terms 1373 00:48:07,892 --> 00:48:09,800 or landse terms, is a 1374 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,204 certifate of occancy a 1375 00:48:10,204 --> 00:48:11,963 certicate of occupancy. The 1376 00:48:11,963 --> 00:48:13,963 ntrollingocument on ld 1377 00:48:14,232 --> 00:48:15,804 useesignations. 1378 00:48:15,804 --> 00:48:17,000 Don 1379 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,230 t kw the answe to 1380 00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:19,570 that. I know how theity 1381 00:48:19,570 --> 00:48:21,540 referred to it. The city called 1382 00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:22,874 it a dat cente City cald 1383 00:48:22,874 --> 00:48:24,232 it computer center. 1384 00:48:24,232 --> 00:48:25,458 And I 1385 00:48:25,458 --> 00:48:26,727 m not. I 1386 00:48:26,727 --> 00:48:27,873 mot asking you 1387 00:48:27,873 --> 00:48:28,956 what it was called in the 1388 00:48:28,956 --> 00:48:30,218 cuments. I 1389 00:48:30,218 --> 00:48:31,584 m askingou, does 1390 00:48:31,584 --> 00:48:32,984 a cerficate ofccupancy? Is 1391 00:48:32,984 --> 00:48:35,384 that the controlli document 1392 00:48:35,754 --> 00:48:37,322 to allable or d allowab 1393 00:48:37,322 --> 00:48:38,856 land uses? 1394 00:48:38,856 --> 00:48:40,240 It maye part o the record of 1395 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:41,707 it. 1396 00:48:41,707 --> 00:48:43,127 Okay, 1397 00:48:43,127 --> 00:48:45,164 ll pause here.R. City 1398 00:48:45,164 --> 00:48:46,596 attorn, what 1399 00:48:46,596 --> 00:48:47,927 s the 1400 00:48:47,927 --> 00:48:49,201 controlling document on land 1401 00:48:49,201 --> 00:48:50,600 use entitlements? 1402 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,854 MR. MAY, the lan use 1403 00:48:51,854 --> 00:48:53,205 entitlements would be the 1404 00:48:53,205 --> 00:48:54,648 corehensive gde plannd 1405 00:48:54,648 --> 00:48:56,103 the uerlying zing. 1406 00:48:56,103 --> 00:48:57,587 And with the certificate 1407 00:48:57,587 --> 00:48:59,400 docunts, do youave anything 1408 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,390 to do wh entitling ld use? 1409 00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:01,792 No, MR. Mayor. 1410 00:49:01,792 --> 00:49:04,192 Thankou, I appreate tha 1411 00:49:04,349 --> 00:49:05,739 So we have a disagreent. 1412 00:49:05,739 --> 00:49:07,180 Understandle.Hat 1413 00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:08,854 s fine. In 1414 00:49:08,854 --> 00:49:12,910 term of the d diligence o 1415 00:49:12,910 --> 00:49:14,625 theroperty. A one of the 1416 00:49:14,625 --> 00:49:16,295 question I had was your your 1417 00:49:16,295 --> 00:49:18,362 your tent I currentoing 1418 00:49:18,362 --> 00:49:21,133 business. Yes As a data 1419 00:49:21,133 --> 00:49:23,534 center And and was that 1420 00:49:23,534 --> 00:49:25,504 business transfeed in ors 1421 00:49:25,504 --> 00:49:27,705 thatew business fromhen you 1422 00:49:27,705 --> 00:49:29,341 acquired theuilding? 1423 00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:30,609 Well, Unisys owned the 1424 00:49:30,609 --> 00:49:32,800 building 1425 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,553 I uerstand 1426 00:49:33,553 --> 00:49:34,941 That. 1427 00:49:34,941 --> 00:49:36,288 Unisys is no longer operating 1428 00:49:36,288 --> 00:49:37,596 there. I don 1429 00:49:37,596 --> 00:49:38,987 t I 1430 00:49:38,987 --> 00:49:40,340 m not sure I 1431 00:49:40,340 --> 00:49:41,521 understa the questio MR. 1432 00:49:41,521 --> 00:49:42,870 Mayor. 1433 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:44,158 Did your your operating a 1434 00:49:44,158 --> 00:49:45,435 business So yououou you 1435 00:49:45,435 --> 00:49:46,770 cled on the busins and 1436 00:49:46,770 --> 00:49:47,958 starte to be able to use it in 1437 00:49:47,958 --> 00:49:49,336 NOVEMBER? 1438 00:49:49,336 --> 00:49:50,567 We we csedn the propey 1439 00:49:50,567 --> 00:49:51,611 and have leased it to a to a 1440 00:49:51,611 --> 00:49:52,756 new operator. 1441 00:49:52,756 --> 00:49:54,233 Okay. 1442 00:49:54,233 --> 00:49:57,833 Soefore that tre was no use 1443 00:49:58,303 --> 00:50:00,105 going on in there. Aside from 1444 00:50:00,105 --> 00:50:02,374 what whathe entled uses 1445 00:50:02,374 --> 00:50:03,584 were. But ts is a new start 1446 00:50:03,584 --> 00:50:04,787 up busins. You bght it with 1447 00:50:04,787 --> 00:50:05,911 the intention of starting to 1448 00:50:05,911 --> 00:50:07,546 erate it a a data center. 1449 00:50:07,546 --> 00:50:09,546 Starting in when. 1450 00:50:09,948 --> 00:50:12,684 I disagree with theay you 1451 00:50:12,684 --> 00:50:15,421 posed t question. T data 1452 00:50:15,421 --> 00:50:18,223 center was a operation Da 1453 00:50:18,223 --> 00:50:20,793 center is still in operation. 1454 00:50:20,793 --> 00:50:22,795 Okay Is the client the same? 1455 00:50:22,795 --> 00:50:23,970 The the parties opeting it 1456 00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:25,440 are not theame because the 1457 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,100 ownershiphanged. 1458 00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:27,163 Okay. I 1459 00:50:27,163 --> 00:50:28,172 . 1460 00:50:28,172 --> 00:50:29,540 Ll leave this off 1461 00:50:29,540 --> 00:50:30,283 to the side. Good idea. In the. 1462 00:50:30,283 --> 00:50:34,720 In the in the way of due 1463 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,740 diligence. What? What level of 1464 00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:37,309 spection did y do on the 1465 00:50:37,309 --> 00:50:39,511 existing coors in the 1466 00:50:39,511 --> 00:50:40,542 builng? 1467 00:50:40,542 --> 00:50:41,554 I don 1468 00:50:41,554 --> 00:50:42,603 t know the answer to 1469 00:50:42,603 --> 00:50:43,583 that. 1470 00:50:43,583 --> 00:50:44,605 Okay, I 1471 00:50:44,605 --> 00:50:45,668 m. 1472 00:50:45,668 --> 00:50:46,783 I 1473 00:50:46,783 --> 00:50:47,989 m assuming tha. I 1474 00:50:47,989 --> 00:50:49,989 m assuming 1475 00:50:50,890 --> 00:50:52,300 at the that Eag was aware 1476 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:52,999 of t condition ofhe 1477 00:50:52,999 --> 00:50:54,793 builng generally. 1478 00:50:54,793 --> 00:50:56,230 And whoas that? 1479 00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:57,336 Eagan capital. 1480 00:50:57,336 --> 00:50:58,831 Thank you. 1481 00:50:58,831 --> 00:51:00,132 Was aware o theeneral 1482 00:51:00,132 --> 00:51:01,433 condition of the propey and 1483 00:51:01,433 --> 00:51:02,522 at needed to be done. 1484 00:51:02,522 --> 00:51:04,522 Okay. 1485 00:51:04,771 --> 00:51:06,839 So a we auminghat whene 1486 00:51:06,839 --> 00:51:08,475 came in, there was a plan to 1487 00:51:08,475 --> 00:51:09,909 bring coolers in, oras the 1488 00:51:09,909 --> 00:51:11,111 a disvery or that of t 1489 00:51:11,111 --> 00:51:13,511 desireo replace the cooling 1490 00:51:14,114 --> 00:51:15,515 syem different from tim of 1491 00:51:15,515 --> 00:51:16,474 operationo time of purchase? 1492 00:51:16,474 --> 00:51:17,409 I 1493 00:51:17,409 --> 00:51:18,510 m not sure I know the answer 1494 00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:19,752 to that queion.Y 1495 00:51:19,752 --> 00:51:21,488 undetanding is me the 1496 00:51:21,488 --> 00:51:23,888 latter tt I wasperating 1497 00:51:25,391 --> 00:51:26,658 fine unt w started to make 1498 00:51:26,658 --> 00:51:27,718 repas and improvents 1499 00:51:27,718 --> 00:51:29,129 interior, and then the 1500 00:51:29,129 --> 00:51:31,130 recognition that the cllers 1501 00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:32,664 re n goingo beave as 1502 00:51:32,664 --> 00:51:33,607 long a le as as oginally 1503 00:51:33,607 --> 00:51:34,933 anticipad. 1504 00:51:34,933 --> 00:51:35,889 So going into this purchase, 1505 00:51:35,889 --> 00:51:36,913 ther wasn 1506 00:51:36,913 --> 00:51:37,971 t any inspection of 1507 00:51:37,971 --> 00:51:39,132 e system beforand or any 1508 00:51:39,132 --> 00:51:40,145 vision off what we 1509 00:51:40,145 --> 00:51:41,460 ll do with 1510 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:42,876 this outdated, outmoded. 1511 00:51:42,876 --> 00:51:44,830 System. 1512 00:51:44,830 --> 00:51:45,165 That 1513 00:51:45,165 --> 00:51:46,184 sot a corct statement 1514 00:51:46,184 --> 00:51:47,181 think there w discussn 1515 00:51:47,181 --> 00:51:48,127 about what thatystem looked 1516 00:51:48,127 --> 00:51:49,720 like. I don 1517 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:50,316 think tt we 1518 00:51:50,316 --> 00:51:51,551 were ultimatelorrectn how 1519 00:51:51,551 --> 00:51:54,551 longhat system was goi to 1520 00:51:54,921 --> 00:51:56,921 be funionally operable. 1521 00:51:58,458 --> 00:51:59,294 Okay. So. 1522 00:51:59,294 --> 00:52:00,393 I 1523 00:52:00,393 --> 00:52:01,404 ll fast forward to that. To 1524 00:52:01,404 --> 00:52:02,463 the introduction, I 1525 00:52:02,463 --> 00:52:03,340 trying to 1526 00:52:03,340 --> 00:52:05,932 figure out t timeline here 1527 00:52:05,932 --> 00:52:08,332 between thecquisition of the 1528 00:52:08,835 --> 00:52:11,835 building and the decision to 1529 00:52:12,505 --> 00:52:13,469 put in what at the time were, 1530 00:52:13,469 --> 00:52:14,476 let 1531 00:52:14,476 --> 00:52:16,750 s say, new cllers, 1532 00:52:16,750 --> 00:52:18,750 correct. 1533 00:52:18,378 --> 00:52:19,382 Ne pmanent chillersere on 1534 00:52:19,382 --> 00:52:21,382 order. 1535 00:52:21,448 --> 00:52:23,917 An when was the decisn? Whe 1536 00:52:23,917 --> 00:52:25,452 was I so new pmanent 1537 00:52:25,452 --> 00:52:27,452 chillers weren ord. 1538 00:52:27,821 --> 00:52:28,888 Correct. And is tt the the 1539 00:52:28,888 --> 00:52:30,824 th chillers that are the 1540 00:52:30,824 --> 00:52:31,773 subjt now of a separate 1541 00:52:31,773 --> 00:52:33,170 application? 1542 00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:34,145 Yes, sir. Okay. 1543 00:52:34,145 --> 00:52:35,261 When was theecision. Wn 1544 00:52:35,261 --> 00:52:36,295 were ty put on ord? 1545 00:52:36,295 --> 00:52:37,170 I don 1546 00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:38,398 tnow the ansr to 1547 00:52:38,398 --> 00:52:39,383 that. Okay. We can certainly 1548 00:52:39,383 --> 00:52:40,405 find thator you if. 1549 00:52:40,405 --> 00:52:41,373 You 1550 00:52:41,373 --> 00:52:42,308 d like.O. Tha 1551 00:52:42,308 --> 00:52:44,308 s fine. 1552 00:52:47,575 --> 00:52:49,800 So before. Before t temrary 1553 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,211 chille were put in. Because 1554 00:52:50,211 --> 00:52:51,244 that was the first tng that 1555 00:52:51,244 --> 00:52:52,912 th was the first decision 1556 00:52:52,912 --> 00:52:54,315 that w made, whichas we 1557 00:52:54,315 --> 00:52:56,584 needed new w needed new 1558 00:52:56,584 --> 00:52:59,584 chillers andhere to put them. 1559 00:53:00,487 --> 00:53:01,422 Okay. Sourchased the buildin 1560 00:53:01,422 --> 00:53:02,655 at some point. Come to t 1561 00:53:02,655 --> 00:53:03,576 conclusion that the the t 1562 00:53:03,576 --> 00:53:05,926 chilng systems going to 1563 00:53:05,926 --> 00:53:06,855 need to be rlaced. So we 1564 00:53:06,855 --> 00:53:08,855 re 1565 00:53:10,163 --> 00:53:12,633 going to order. A set of new 1566 00:53:12,633 --> 00:53:15,340 permanent chillers.Ut in the 1567 00:53:15,340 --> 00:53:15,969 antime, instead of just 1568 00:53:15,969 --> 00:53:18,369 waiting f those permane 1569 00:53:18,471 --> 00:53:19,973 chillers to aive and totart 1570 00:53:19,973 --> 00:53:20,794 upusiness, we 1571 00:53:20,794 --> 00:53:22,794 reoing to go 1572 00:53:23,276 --> 00:53:25,578 forward and put in tempora 1573 00:53:25,578 --> 00:53:27,948 illers to replace aystem 1574 00:53:27,948 --> 00:53:29,183 that has failed, as has has the 1575 00:53:29,183 --> 00:53:31,786 old stem now ceased to be 1576 00:53:31,786 --> 00:53:33,786 workingr ceased operation? 1577 00:53:34,287 --> 00:53:35,249 It has been, yes. It 1578 00:53:35,249 --> 00:53:36,217 sot 1579 00:53:36,217 --> 00:53:37,519 operatingecause it 1580 00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:38,503 s been 1581 00:53:38,503 --> 00:53:39,356 converted over t the 1582 00:53:39,356 --> 00:53:40,261 temporary. 1583 00:53:40,261 --> 00:53:41,109 Okay. Okay. So in ord to so 1584 00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:43,731 in order to replace that 1585 00:53:43,731 --> 00:53:45,899 stem, you bring in four 1586 00:53:45,899 --> 00:53:48,335 chille. You he more on back 1587 00:53:48,335 --> 00:53:50,171 order, but you bring in four. 1588 00:53:50,171 --> 00:53:51,950 And you startperatinghem. 1589 00:53:51,950 --> 00:53:53,950 That 1590 00:53:53,607 --> 00:53:54,646 s corct. Okay. And at 1591 00:53:54,646 --> 00:53:56,342 the tim that you started 1592 00:53:56,342 --> 00:53:57,416 operating them, did you did you 1593 00:53:57,416 --> 00:53:58,360 think that you 1594 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,360 d ordered some 1595 00:54:01,715 --> 00:54:02,625 sort of a superuiet chiller? 1596 00:54:02,625 --> 00:54:03,763 That wasn 1597 00:54:03,763 --> 00:54:04,731 toing to make a 1598 00:54:04,731 --> 00:54:05,857 noisend wasn 1599 00:54:05,857 --> 00:54:06,822 t gng to be of 1600 00:54:06,822 --> 00:54:07,752 any concern? 1601 00:54:07,752 --> 00:54:08,523 I don 1602 00:54:08,523 --> 00:54:11,580 t know t answer to that. 1603 00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:13,294 Why not come into theity and 1604 00:54:13,294 --> 00:54:14,528 and checkhead of te? I 1605 00:54:14,528 --> 00:54:15,795 would seem to me tt youeem 1606 00:54:15,795 --> 00:54:16,756 like an intelligent person. If 1607 00:54:16,756 --> 00:54:17,793 you 1608 00:54:17,793 --> 00:54:18,589 re going tout a chiller 1609 00:54:18,589 --> 00:54:19,484 on the outside, it 1610 00:54:19,484 --> 00:54:20,327 s going to 1611 00:54:20,327 --> 00:54:21,214 make som noise.Ou wouldn 1612 00:54:21,214 --> 00:54:22,214 t. 1613 00:54:22,214 --> 00:54:23,760 You wouldn 1614 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:23,963 think that maybe 1615 00:54:23,963 --> 00:54:24,852 you should check I with the 1616 00:54:24,852 --> 00:54:25,766 city to see if there 1617 00:54:25,766 --> 00:54:26,780 s some 1618 00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:27,812 so of standards that you need 1619 00:54:27,812 --> 00:54:28,590 to go through, o some process 1620 00:54:28,590 --> 00:54:29,362 you need too through. 1621 00:54:29,362 --> 00:54:30,170 You know, I think, m Mayor, 1622 00:54:30,170 --> 00:54:31,745 respectfully w were not aware 1623 00:54:31,745 --> 00:54:32,913 th we needed thi permit. 1624 00:54:32,913 --> 00:54:34,782 Once we were are of ts 1625 00:54:34,782 --> 00:54:36,650 permit and all the city was 1626 00:54:36,650 --> 00:54:38,619 aski. We jped on it 1627 00:54:38,619 --> 00:54:40,221 imdiately and did evething 1628 00:54:40,221 --> 00:54:42,156 the citysked u to do, 1629 00:54:42,156 --> 00:54:43,491 includin pticularlyome 1630 00:54:43,491 --> 00:54:45,491 ve significant andxtensive 1631 00:54:46,594 --> 00:54:48,594 noise stues. 1632 00:54:50,598 --> 00:54:53,534 Do I, y and I can 1633 00:54:53,534 --> 00:54:54,399 digree on t on t o 1634 00:54:54,399 --> 00:54:56,799 coort levels with that 1635 00:55:00,776 --> 00:55:03,176 statement. Fr enough. Whyot 1636 00:55:04,278 --> 00:55:05,579 act on the permanent chiers 1637 00:55:05,579 --> 00:55:06,322 in advance If you knew tt? 1638 00:55:06,322 --> 00:55:07,306 That 1639 00:55:07,306 --> 00:55:08,413 s where we 1640 00:55:08,413 --> 00:55:10,170 reoing the 1641 00:55:10,170 --> 00:55:11,440 ole time. I, I 1642 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,620 m kin of 1643 00:55:12,620 --> 00:55:14,488 baffled by this. Usually in the 1644 00:55:14,488 --> 00:55:15,378 ornary cours you 1645 00:55:15,378 --> 00:55:16,359 reoing 1646 00:55:16,359 --> 00:55:17,365 to purche a property. You 1647 00:55:17,365 --> 00:55:18,197 d 1648 00:55:18,197 --> 00:55:19,161 purchase it on ctingency, 1649 00:55:19,161 --> 00:55:20,228 you 1650 00:55:20,228 --> 00:55:21,234 d go tohe city, y 1651 00:55:21,234 --> 00:55:22,160 d 1652 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,190 say,e 1653 00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:24,700 re going toave this 1654 00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:24,864 iling cooling system. We 1655 00:55:24,864 --> 00:55:25,829 re 1656 00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:26,867 going toeed to add permanent 1657 00:55:26,867 --> 00:55:28,804 coolero t system. And and 1658 00:55:28,804 --> 00:55:29,783 you kw, we 1659 00:55:29,783 --> 00:55:30,838 ll want t know 1660 00:55:30,838 --> 00:55:32,907 whathe process is f adding 1661 00:55:32,907 --> 00:55:35,876 that. Ande bui it all into 1662 00:55:35,876 --> 00:55:37,946 the same process y insad 1663 00:55:37,946 --> 00:55:39,620 are and by the w, y don 1664 00:55:39,620 --> 00:55:40,181 t 1665 00:55:40,181 --> 00:55:41,348 make the city awa ofhe 1666 00:55:41,348 --> 00:55:43,748 permanen chillers a the 1667 00:55:43,751 --> 00:55:46,151 permanent cller plans unt 1668 00:55:46,788 --> 00:55:47,696 the mdle of Mch. Right. 1669 00:55:47,696 --> 00:55:49,696 Think that 1670 00:55:50,158 --> 00:55:51,492 s correct. Our our 1671 00:55:51,492 --> 00:55:53,270 understanding was that the 1672 00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:54,528 perment chillers a simply 1673 00:55:54,528 --> 00:55:56,231 rt of theechanical sysm 1674 00:55:56,231 --> 00:55:57,531 of the building. And at most, 1675 00:55:57,531 --> 00:55:59,167 what w needed w a buiing 1676 00:55:59,167 --> 00:56:01,470 permit. At most, what we need 1677 00:56:01,470 --> 00:56:03,537 was a building permit too 1678 00:56:03,537 --> 00:56:05,937 stall andonnect these. The 1679 00:56:05,974 --> 00:56:07,608 replacemt chiers. We kept 1680 00:56:07,608 --> 00:56:09,100 building pmitsll theime. 1681 00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:10,345 The cy issues building 1682 00:56:10,345 --> 00:56:11,412 permits all the time. It 1683 00:56:11,412 --> 00:56:13,148 s not 1684 00:56:13,148 --> 00:56:14,340 a land use permit. It 1685 00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:14,996 s not a 1686 00:56:14,996 --> 00:56:16,430 ning pert. It 1687 00:56:16,430 --> 00:56:17,700 s auilding 1688 00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:17,921 permit. It 1689 00:56:17,921 --> 00:56:19,921 s an objective 1690 00:56:21,223 --> 00:56:22,323 andard that the city city. 1691 00:56:22,323 --> 00:56:23,341 Youon 1692 00:56:23,341 --> 00:56:24,397 t look athe zoning, 1693 00:56:24,397 --> 00:56:25,388 you don 1694 00:56:25,388 --> 00:56:26,254 look at t zoning 1695 00:56:26,254 --> 00:56:27,336 indications and realize, oh, 1696 00:56:27,336 --> 00:56:28,207 shoot, there 1697 00:56:28,207 --> 00:56:29,207 s something out o 1698 00:56:29,207 --> 00:56:30,665 whack here because outdoor 1699 00:56:30,665 --> 00:56:31,738 store isot allowedn major 1700 00:56:31,738 --> 00:56:32,580 office resrch and 1701 00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:33,702 development. 1702 00:56:33,702 --> 00:56:36,710 Well we disagehat thiss 1703 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:37,539 outdr storage MR. Mayor. 1704 00:56:37,539 --> 00:56:39,700 Okay. 1705 00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:40,890 And the permant cllers are 1706 00:56:40,890 --> 00:56:43,890 going to have wall around 1707 00:56:45,714 --> 00:56:47,215 them. And if. 1708 00:56:47,215 --> 00:56:48,233 I really, really quick 1709 00:56:48,233 --> 00:56:49,101 question 1710 00:56:49,101 --> 00:56:50,305 Yeah, yea I 1711 00:56:50,305 --> 00:56:51,276 ll, I 1712 00:56:51,276 --> 00:56:52,342 ll let. 1713 00:56:52,342 --> 00:56:53,789 You take itn a dovetail on 1714 00:56:53,789 --> 00:56:54,955 that. There was a building 1715 00:56:54,955 --> 00:56:56,570 permit granted for the 1716 00:56:56,570 --> 00:56:57,726 teorary wall in order to 1717 00:56:57,726 --> 00:57:00,126 mitiga the temporary pblem. 1718 00:57:00,228 --> 00:57:02,464 Correct. Was there a buiing 1719 00:57:02,464 --> 00:57:05,333 permit graed for the outdoor 1720 00:57:05,333 --> 00:57:06,368 chillers? Okay, s if what I 1721 00:57:06,368 --> 00:57:07,325 m 1722 00:57:07,325 --> 00:57:09,271 having a proem with isf the 1723 00:57:09,271 --> 00:57:10,142 argunt I ts is a outdoor 1724 00:57:10,142 --> 00:57:10,921 storagt 1725 00:57:10,921 --> 00:57:12,607 s an improvement to 1726 00:57:12,607 --> 00:57:13,678 e building. How could that 1727 00:57:13,678 --> 00:57:15,143 haveccurred without a 1728 00:57:15,143 --> 00:57:16,100 buding permit? I it 1729 00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:17,646 s not 1730 00:57:17,646 --> 00:57:18,680 outdoor storage a it 1731 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,915 s an 1732 00:57:19,915 --> 00:57:21,490 expansion or an aertinence to 1733 00:57:21,490 --> 00:57:22,417 the blding itself, that would 1734 00:57:22,417 --> 00:57:23,168 reque a building permit, 1735 00:57:23,168 --> 00:57:24,490 because tt 1736 00:57:24,490 --> 00:57:24,986 s a substantial 1737 00:57:24,986 --> 00:57:26,722 change of t use and t 1738 00:57:26,722 --> 00:57:27,495 footprint. 1739 00:57:27,495 --> 00:57:28,335 We 1740 00:57:28,335 --> 00:57:29,550 re not changing the 1741 00:57:29,550 --> 00:57:31,393 footprint. Cncilember 1742 00:57:31,393 --> 00:57:32,894 kken not changin the 1743 00:57:32,894 --> 00:57:35,630 otprint of the blding. 1744 00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:35,901 Well, the the I, Iuess I 1745 00:57:35,901 --> 00:57:36,930 m 1746 00:57:36,930 --> 00:57:37,950 saying I 1747 00:57:37,950 --> 00:57:39,380 m having aard time 1748 00:57:39,380 --> 00:57:39,962 understanding how you can he 1749 00:57:39,962 --> 00:57:40,934 it bot ways. It 1750 00:57:40,934 --> 00:57:42,380 either 1751 00:57:42,380 --> 00:57:44,760 outdoor storage of eipment or 1752 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,268 s an expansi of o the 1753 00:57:45,268 --> 00:57:46,279 equipment that 1754 00:57:46,279 --> 00:57:47,286 s pertinent to 1755 00:57:47,286 --> 00:57:48,256 the building, in which case 1756 00:57:48,256 --> 00:57:49,830 you 1757 00:57:49,830 --> 00:57:50,133 d need some type of oer 1758 00:57:50,133 --> 00:57:51,400 perm. 1759 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,400 MR. Mor. 1760 00:57:54,216 --> 00:57:55,209 Councian.He the. Tempory 1761 00:57:55,209 --> 00:57:56,154 chillers requid. 1762 00:57:56,154 --> 00:57:58,154 A mechanical. 1763 00:57:58,988 --> 00:58:00,890 Permit to connect them. 1764 00:58:00,890 --> 00:58:03,890 To connect them to the 1765 00:58:05,927 --> 00:58:07,696 building. Andtaffctually 1766 00:58:07,696 --> 00:58:09,899 found out b accident. Tse 1767 00:58:09,899 --> 00:58:10,837 we there theyre. In terms 1768 00:58:10,837 --> 00:58:11,722 ofhether they 1769 00:58:11,722 --> 00:58:12,720 reutdoor 1770 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:13,544 storage, they are they are 1771 00:58:13,544 --> 00:58:14,501 mobile. They 1772 00:58:14,501 --> 00:58:15,670 on Flatbeds. 1773 00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:16,705 They are not pernently 1774 00:58:16,705 --> 00:58:17,532 connecte to the building. 1775 00:58:17,532 --> 00:58:18,386 They 1776 00:58:18,386 --> 00:58:19,261 reonnected b you know, 1777 00:58:19,261 --> 00:58:22,145 you saw the ptures sort of 1778 00:58:22,145 --> 00:58:23,312 orangeoses. Theytaff. We 1779 00:58:23,312 --> 00:58:24,847 interpret o zoningrdinance. 1780 00:58:24,847 --> 00:58:27,160 The city ierprets. This I 1781 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,352 outdoor storage. They did 1782 00:58:29,352 --> 00:58:32,352 require a mechanical permit to 1783 00:58:32,888 --> 00:58:33,790 coect thato the buildg. 1784 00:58:33,790 --> 00:58:36,190 They did fileor that 1785 00:58:36,292 --> 00:58:37,794 chanicalermit. Hower, 1786 00:58:37,794 --> 00:58:38,895 whene started recving nse 1787 00:58:38,895 --> 00:58:40,729 colaints the e of FEBRUARY, 1788 00:58:40,729 --> 00:58:42,298 we we went out to theite, 1789 00:58:42,298 --> 00:58:44,298 reized that thohose 1790 00:58:44,466 --> 00:58:46,466 temporary chillers we 1791 00:58:46,669 --> 00:58:48,337 operational prior toeceiving 1792 00:58:48,337 --> 00:58:50,737 that mechanical pert, which 1793 00:58:53,709 --> 00:58:55,478 isnusual. At tt point, w 1794 00:58:55,478 --> 00:58:58,470 we had aeady with the I, 1795 00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:59,549 said they need some provi a 1796 00:58:59,549 --> 00:59:01,217 noise study. We saw this 1797 00:59:01,217 --> 00:59:02,255 equipment there, realized tha 1798 00:59:02,255 --> 00:59:03,252 we 1799 00:59:03,252 --> 00:59:04,189 ll probably mak noise. It 1800 00:59:04,189 --> 00:59:06,890 s 1801 00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:09,689 not srounded by wls like a 1802 00:59:09,859 --> 00:59:11,160 rmanent system would be. We 1803 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,496 required a noisetudy wh 1804 00:59:13,496 --> 00:59:14,897 thei iup. Once we saw their 1805 00:59:14,897 --> 00:59:16,980 operational, weaturally 1806 00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:16,978 formed themo the building 1807 00:59:16,978 --> 00:59:18,186 official that you can 1808 00:59:18,186 --> 00:59:19,221 t be 1809 00:59:19,221 --> 00:59:21,304 operating these without a 1810 00:59:21,304 --> 00:59:23,704 mechanical permit.Kay. They 1811 00:59:24,730 --> 00:59:25,709 chose not to cease operations. 1812 00:59:25,709 --> 00:59:26,976 Did strongly recommend they 1813 00:59:26,976 --> 00:59:28,144 submit a noise study prior to 1814 00:59:28,144 --> 00:59:29,879 th apec meeti, whichas at 1815 00:59:29,879 --> 00:59:32,279 that point wascheduled f 1816 00:59:33,616 --> 00:59:34,617 Marc 19th.E continue to 1817 00:59:34,617 --> 00:59:37,170 ceive complaints from the 1818 00:59:38,354 --> 00:59:39,422 public We g the results of 1819 00:59:39,422 --> 00:59:41,290 th noise study back, wch 1820 00:59:41,290 --> 00:59:44,290 said that, in fact, the 1821 00:59:44,327 --> 00:59:46,327 chlers exceed. 1822 00:59:47,897 --> 00:59:48,870 Yep. So I mean, I guess thiss 1823 00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:49,919 soy. I 1824 00:59:49,919 --> 00:59:51,490 m gng. 1825 00:59:51,490 --> 00:59:51,927 To keep gng. No, no. 1826 00:59:51,927 --> 00:59:53,102 Please go. This is a question 1827 00:59:53,102 --> 00:59:53,958 for our city attorney. I mn, 1828 00:59:53,958 --> 00:59:55,958 there 1829 00:59:56,473 --> 00:59:58,473 s diffence between 1830 00:59:58,574 --> 01:00:00,276 portable property and items 1831 01:00:00,276 --> 01:00:01,612 at are an attack, an 1832 01:00:01,612 --> 01:00:04,281 attachme to the blt. Those 1833 01:00:04,281 --> 01:00:05,982 rooftop units are considered an 1834 01:00:05,982 --> 01:00:08,382 improvemen and an attachment 1835 01:00:09,153 --> 01:00:11,254 to the building stuffhat 1836 01:00:11,254 --> 01:00:12,856 plug in and can be haud away 1837 01:00:12,856 --> 01:00:15,256 is not considered permanent 1838 01:00:15,391 --> 01:00:17,260 imovemento the buildin 1839 01:00:17,260 --> 01:00:18,462 MR. Mayor, COUNCILMAN, my lal 1840 01:00:18,462 --> 01:00:20,970 opion would be thi is. 1841 01:00:20,970 --> 01:00:21,865 Outside storagend they wou 1842 01:00:21,865 --> 01:00:23,767 need an iup. This I what they 1843 01:00:23,767 --> 01:00:24,752 applied for Theup, that 1844 01:00:24,752 --> 01:00:25,622 s 1845 01:00:25,622 --> 01:00:26,536 the actionefore youonight. 1846 01:00:26,536 --> 01:00:27,838 Okay. That was the 1847 01:00:27,838 --> 01:00:30,238 clarification I nded. Tha 1848 01:00:30,339 --> 01:00:31,708 you. 1849 01:00:31,708 --> 01:00:32,549 Iuess what I 1850 01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:34,949 m trying to get 1851 01:00:39,516 --> 01:00:40,936 to is I They were on Flatbeds. 1852 01:00:40,936 --> 01:00:41,918 It 1853 01:00:41,918 --> 01:00:43,860 secause they 1854 01:00:43,860 --> 01:00:44,290 re tporary 1855 01:00:44,290 --> 01:00:45,471 But you 1856 01:00:45,471 --> 01:00:46,490 re saying you thought 1857 01:00:46,490 --> 01:00:48,691 that theyere permanent, are 1858 01:00:48,691 --> 01:00:50,294 in your world. Does does 1859 01:00:50,294 --> 01:00:51,294 permanent constructio arrive 1860 01:00:51,294 --> 01:00:52,365 onlatbeds and stayn 1861 01:00:52,365 --> 01:00:53,273 Flatbeds 1862 01:00:53,273 --> 01:00:54,133 I 1863 01:00:54,133 --> 01:00:55,431 noture what you 1864 01:00:55,431 --> 01:00:57,431 re. Wha 1865 01:00:57,468 --> 01:00:58,450 wh? Your question is, MR. 1866 01:00:58,450 --> 01:00:59,227 Mayor. 1867 01:00:59,227 --> 01:01:00,229 I 1868 01:01:00,229 --> 01:01:03,229 m trying t understand the 1869 01:01:03,574 --> 01:01:05,974 timing between t perception 1870 01:01:09,113 --> 01:01:11,113 ofhese four chillerss 1871 01:01:12,249 --> 01:01:14,649 structural mhanics and the 1872 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,320 decisi instead to go outnd 1873 01:01:20,791 --> 01:01:21,854 look for 8 or 9 chillers and 1874 01:01:21,854 --> 01:01:24,270 ame those as somehow 1875 01:01:24,270 --> 01:01:25,496 perment, and tn comeack 1876 01:01:25,496 --> 01:01:27,300 on t back side and say, n 1877 01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:29,600 no,o, these these are 1878 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,502 tually temporary 1879 01:01:31,502 --> 01:01:33,103 ah. You MAY there MAY be a 1880 01:01:33,103 --> 01:01:35,140 MISS. You MAY not clearly 1881 01:01:35,140 --> 01:01:36,236 understand the facts 1882 01:01:36,236 --> 01:01:37,487 Well, I 1883 01:01:37,487 --> 01:01:38,500 m if Ion 1884 01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:39,358 t clearly 1885 01:01:39,358 --> 01:01:40,381 understand the facts I think 1886 01:01:40,381 --> 01:01:41,339 I 1887 01:01:41,339 --> 01:01:42,132 m, I have help in that.. 1888 01:01:42,132 --> 01:01:44,482 The goal w to provide 1889 01:01:44,482 --> 01:01:45,542 rmanent cllers. Weidn 1890 01:01:45,542 --> 01:01:47,542 t 1891 01:01:47,618 --> 01:01:49,453 have thebility to obtn 1892 01:01:49,453 --> 01:01:51,488 permanent chillers in the time 1893 01:01:51,488 --> 01:01:53,488 necessary to sercehe 1894 01:01:54,959 --> 01:01:57,959 property So on a interim 1895 01:01:59,898 --> 01:02:01,399 basis, we cated a system for 1896 01:02:01,399 --> 01:02:02,435 temporary chiers. They 1897 01:02:02,435 --> 01:02:03,347 re 1898 01:02:03,347 --> 01:02:04,226 going to behere until they 1899 01:02:04,226 --> 01:02:05,302 re 1900 01:02:05,302 --> 01:02:06,234 not needed anymore, at which 1901 01:02:06,234 --> 01:02:07,116 point they 1902 01:02:07,116 --> 01:02:09,516 ll be replad by 1903 01:02:10,574 --> 01:02:14,711 permanent chillers in a in a in 1904 01:02:14,711 --> 01:02:17,711 a masonry sucture tha will 1905 01:02:18,583 --> 01:02:19,583 bo hide them from view and 1906 01:02:19,583 --> 01:02:22,583 and deal with any noise 1907 01:02:23,421 --> 01:02:26,223 concerns. It was I was an 1908 01:02:26,223 --> 01:02:27,257 interim. Itas an ierim need 1909 01:02:27,257 --> 01:02:28,223 that we filled. I 1910 01:02:28,223 --> 01:02:29,300 m not. 1911 01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:30,346 That 1912 01:02:30,346 --> 01:02:31,281 not the way. That 1913 01:02:31,281 --> 01:02:32,196 s not 1914 01:02:32,196 --> 01:02:33,730 e way that you prented it. 1915 01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:34,740 You presented it a thisas a 1916 01:02:34,740 --> 01:02:37,140 mechanal pt of the 1917 01:02:37,534 --> 01:02:39,336 building,nd I was t replace 1918 01:02:39,336 --> 01:02:40,537 the existing cooli structure 1919 01:02:40,537 --> 01:02:43,308 ich we thought we h taken 1920 01:02:43,308 --> 01:02:44,259 care of by these fr chiller 1921 01:02:44,259 --> 01:02:45,131 No, I don 1922 01:02:45,131 --> 01:02:46,770 t think I don 1923 01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:47,710 t think 1924 01:02:47,710 --> 01:02:47,869 that 1925 01:02:47,869 --> 01:02:48,802 s correct 1926 01:02:48,802 --> 01:02:50,548 characterizaon. Our rooftop 1927 01:02:50,548 --> 01:02:51,449 illers are rooop chillers. 1928 01:02:51,449 --> 01:02:52,650 We 1929 01:02:52,650 --> 01:02:54,185 re not going to work. 1930 01:02:54,185 --> 01:02:55,422 And assume that Issume that 1931 01:02:55,422 --> 01:02:56,488 you knew that at some point 1932 01:02:56,488 --> 01:02:57,754 early on inhe process. 1933 01:02:57,754 --> 01:02:58,814 Well, at some point,e knew 1934 01:02:58,814 --> 01:02:59,677 that they were n going to 1935 01:02:59,677 --> 01:03:01,359 work, wheth they had ather 1936 01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:02,626 useful lif of two years, three 1937 01:03:02,626 --> 01:03:03,437 ars, five yrs, ten years. I 1938 01:03:03,437 --> 01:03:04,662 don 1939 01:03:04,662 --> 01:03:07,131 t kw the answer to that, 1940 01:03:07,131 --> 01:03:08,299 t those chierseeded toe 1941 01:03:08,299 --> 01:03:09,901 replac. Now we hadome 1942 01:03:09,901 --> 01:03:12,637 chces. We could have replace 1943 01:03:12,637 --> 01:03:14,605 them with on theoof with 1944 01:03:14,605 --> 01:03:15,484 exact same chillers. 1945 01:03:15,484 --> 01:03:16,369 So why didn 1946 01:03:16,369 --> 01:03:17,334 t you let me ask 1947 01:03:17,334 --> 01:03:18,249 you that? Whyidn 1948 01:03:18,249 --> 01:03:19,550 t you do 1949 01:03:19,550 --> 01:03:20,111 th? Why do we go thiay? 1950 01:03:20,111 --> 01:03:21,143 Because we had roundabout 1951 01:03:21,143 --> 01:03:22,114 route. 1952 01:03:22,114 --> 01:03:23,450 We thoug the cit would 1953 01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:24,528 prefers not to be using 2.7 1954 01:03:24,528 --> 01:03:25,517 llion gallons of water a 1955 01:03:25,517 --> 01:03:26,966 year. 1956 01:03:26,966 --> 01:03:27,886 Thes are. Did y ask the 1957 01:03:27,886 --> 01:03:29,320 city? 1958 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,522 Would the question be. Would 1959 01:03:30,522 --> 01:03:31,438 the answere different? 1960 01:03:31,438 --> 01:03:32,310 I 1961 01:03:32,310 --> 01:03:33,312 m notsking wha the answer 1962 01:03:33,312 --> 01:03:34,234 would haveeen. Did yousk 1963 01:03:34,234 --> 01:03:35,250 the city aut this?Ou 1964 01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:36,261 re 1965 01:03:36,261 --> 01:03:37,105 clearly in aonundrum. And you 1966 01:03:37,105 --> 01:03:38,560 didn 1967 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,420 t think to reach o to 1968 01:03:39,420 --> 01:03:40,136 theity and say what are you 1969 01:03:40,136 --> 01:03:41,241 guys think abo this? You jt 1970 01:03:41,241 --> 01:03:42,181 assud what their answe would 1971 01:03:42,181 --> 01:03:43,186 be. 1972 01:03:43,186 --> 01:03:44,225 I don 1973 01:03:44,225 --> 01:03:45,353 t think that was an iss 1974 01:03:45,353 --> 01:03:46,319 th we needed to tal to t 1975 01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:47,322 citybout. I think the answe 1976 01:03:47,322 --> 01:03:48,341 pretty obvus, which is 1977 01:03:48,341 --> 01:03:49,410 ey 1978 01:03:49,410 --> 01:03:50,312 re environmeally safe, 1979 01:03:50,312 --> 01:03:51,238 they 1980 01:03:51,238 --> 01:03:52,207 re environntally 1981 01:03:52,207 --> 01:03:53,511 friend. Theyeplace an 1982 01:03:53,511 --> 01:03:55,246 outmoded, environmental 1983 01:03:55,246 --> 01:03:56,305 unfriendly system. I 1984 01:03:56,305 --> 01:03:57,782 m n sure 1985 01:03:57,782 --> 01:03:59,651 who at ts table woulduggest 1986 01:03:59,651 --> 01:04:00,488 thate ought totay wit it, 1987 01:04:00,488 --> 01:04:02,488 but I 1988 01:04:02,922 --> 01:04:06,758 ll if, if, if, if it is 1989 01:04:06,758 --> 01:04:09,758 your pference that that we 1990 01:04:10,830 --> 01:04:13,230 abandon thislan and itall 1991 01:04:13,399 --> 01:04:15,399 traditional oime chillers 1992 01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:16,883 back onhe roof, we could 1993 01:04:16,883 --> 01:04:17,706 certainly look. 1994 01:04:17,706 --> 01:04:18,575 At it. I 1995 01:04:18,575 --> 01:04:19,737 s not I don 1996 01:04:19,737 --> 01:04:21,106 my 1997 01:04:21,106 --> 01:04:22,374 concern is, I think, quite 1998 01:04:22,374 --> 01:04:23,326 frankly, it 1999 01:04:23,326 --> 01:04:24,120 s feeling to me 2000 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,220 like you did 2001 01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:25,931 t ask qstions 2002 01:04:25,931 --> 01:04:26,949 because you didn 2003 01:04:26,949 --> 01:04:28,713 t want the 2004 01:04:28,713 --> 01:04:29,486 answers. And, and andhat I 2005 01:04:29,486 --> 01:04:30,949 m 2006 01:04:30,949 --> 01:04:31,983 feeling le is tt different 2007 01:04:31,983 --> 01:04:33,352 things emerge at difrent 2008 01:04:33,352 --> 01:04:34,120 tis in this timele. And 2009 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,869 that 2010 01:04:34,869 --> 01:04:35,561 s a lot of wha 2011 01:04:35,561 --> 01:04:36,168 s 2012 01:04:36,168 --> 01:04:36,950 confing it. And it 2013 01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:38,491 s 2014 01:04:38,491 --> 01:04:39,658 decisions to make assptions 2015 01:04:39,658 --> 01:04:40,523 based on the idea that it 2016 01:04:40,523 --> 01:04:41,248 s 2017 01:04:41,248 --> 01:04:42,132 your opion thatou don 2018 01:04:42,132 --> 01:04:42,919 t 2019 01:04:42,919 --> 01:04:43,836 need something a opposed to 2020 01:04:43,836 --> 01:04:45,830 aski the city and followi 2021 01:04:45,830 --> 01:04:49,430 th legal pross, or at least 2022 01:04:50,102 --> 01:04:52,237 a tradional process And so, 2023 01:04:52,237 --> 01:04:53,286 MR. Mayor allhat aside. So 2024 01:04:53,286 --> 01:04:54,231 let 2025 01:04:54,231 --> 01:04:55,365 s. 2026 01:04:55,365 --> 01:04:56,494 Le me just mak an analogy 2027 01:04:56,494 --> 01:04:58,878 MR. Mayor, if if I buy a singl 2028 01:04:58,878 --> 01:05:00,312 milyot fromennar Homes, 2029 01:05:00,312 --> 01:05:01,413 correct. And it 2030 01:05:01,413 --> 01:05:03,140 zed as 2031 01:05:03,140 --> 01:05:04,916 single familt 2032 01:05:04,916 --> 01:05:06,916 s all the 2033 01:05:06,919 --> 01:05:08,154 areas around it are singl 2034 01:05:08,154 --> 01:05:09,655 family. A I look at your 2035 01:05:09,655 --> 01:05:10,989 zoning map and it 2036 01:05:10,989 --> 01:05:11,873 s r, I 2037 01:05:11,873 --> 01:05:12,714 m 2038 01:05:12,714 --> 01:05:15,594 probably not going to come I 2039 01:05:15,594 --> 01:05:17,196 andsk t city for permission 2040 01:05:17,196 --> 01:05:19,465 or its onion as to wheth or 2041 01:05:19,465 --> 01:05:20,566 not I am allowed to use that 2042 01:05:20,566 --> 01:05:22,566 property for residential 2043 01:05:23,668 --> 01:05:24,695 purposes.Nd in this case, w 2044 01:05:24,695 --> 01:05:26,138 had a building tt had been 2045 01:05:26,138 --> 01:05:27,540 used as a data center. 2046 01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:28,573 No no no n no no no. Y just 2047 01:05:28,573 --> 01:05:29,448 talked aboutou justalked to 2048 01:05:29,448 --> 01:05:30,417 me about and I 2049 01:05:30,417 --> 01:05:31,433 ll get to you in 2050 01:05:31,433 --> 01:05:32,537 one sond. Yes. Yeah. The 2051 01:05:32,537 --> 01:05:34,130 vetails. You just you just 2052 01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:35,481 aske me.Ou just sd that 2053 01:05:35,481 --> 01:05:39,810 yo would check the zoning and 2054 01:05:40,453 --> 01:05:41,525 guing right? And that you 2055 01:05:41,525 --> 01:05:42,533 wouldn 2056 01:05:42,533 --> 01:05:43,597 come in and a for a 2057 01:05:43,597 --> 01:05:44,723 difference I the zoning 2058 01:05:44,723 --> 01:05:45,854 guiding was wha you looked at. 2059 01:05:45,854 --> 01:05:46,774 T you 2060 01:05:46,774 --> 01:05:48,360 re telli me that you 2061 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,960 ca into you bough a property 2062 01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:56,135 at I r&d, that is not data 2063 01:05:56,135 --> 01:05:57,800 only pririly, and that you 2064 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:57,956 didn 2065 01:05:57,956 --> 01:05:59,105 t a the questn. 2066 01:05:59,105 --> 01:06:01,505 Your factsre wrong. Itas 2067 01:06:01,941 --> 01:06:02,930 data primarily. It was not da. 2068 01:06:02,930 --> 01:06:03,876 Another. 2069 01:06:03,876 --> 01:06:04,816 Service counselor, spin, I let 2070 01:06:04,816 --> 01:06:05,978 you take Mr.Ayor of this. 2071 01:06:05,978 --> 01:06:08,378 Actually a question of. 2072 01:06:09,810 --> 01:06:11,150 Aff and it actually you did a 2073 01:06:11,150 --> 01:06:13,586 great segue for me oningle 2074 01:06:13,586 --> 01:06:15,988 family homes inn r-1 district. 2075 01:06:15,988 --> 01:06:17,323 Most inur are hav a 2076 01:06:17,323 --> 01:06:18,924 detached gager detached 2077 01:06:18,924 --> 01:06:20,100 gage tt you park your car 2078 01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:21,494 in. That 2079 01:06:21,494 --> 01:06:24,494 s an accessory use to 2080 01:06:25,264 --> 01:06:27,299 the home, crect. So if I were 2081 01:06:27,299 --> 01:06:29,135 to buy atheringle fily 2082 01:06:29,135 --> 01:06:30,370 home in my nghborhood and 2083 01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:31,343 say, you knowhat, 2084 01:06:31,343 --> 01:06:33,720 m jt 2085 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,220 goingo parkarsn this lot. 2086 01:06:34,220 --> 01:06:35,740 No o 2087 01:06:35,740 --> 01:06:36,180 s going to live there. 2088 01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:37,165 It 2089 01:06:37,165 --> 01:06:38,301 s goi to just be my 2090 01:06:38,301 --> 01:06:39,247 fries myself. I 2091 01:06:39,247 --> 01:06:40,346 rent it 2092 01:06:40,346 --> 01:06:41,113 out a just park cars there 2093 01:06:41,113 --> 01:06:42,620 because it 2094 01:06:42,620 --> 01:06:44,462 s bn useds a 2095 01:06:46,180 --> 01:06:48,418 gage everince itas built. 2096 01:06:49,823 --> 01:06:52,992 Would that be a permitted use 2097 01:06:52,992 --> 01:06:54,294 for that pperty so no one 2098 01:06:54,294 --> 01:06:55,429 lives there? It 2099 01:06:55,429 --> 01:06:56,829 snly being 2100 01:06:56,829 --> 01:06:58,165 usedor storing cars. 2101 01:06:58,165 --> 01:06:58,934 MR. Mor, council members 2102 01:06:58,934 --> 01:06:59,913 subpoena. Tha 2103 01:06:59,913 --> 01:07:01,340 s aost an 2104 01:07:01,340 --> 01:07:02,100 exac analogy that I talked 2105 01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:04,100 out with community 2106 01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:05,771 developmt Hutmacher a few 2107 01:07:05,771 --> 01:07:07,474 days agohat similarly, if 2108 01:07:07,474 --> 01:07:09,208 soone owned a hou with a 2109 01:07:09,208 --> 01:07:11,244 garagend they deced t rent 2110 01:07:11,244 --> 01:07:13,790 out the space in their garage 2111 01:07:13,790 --> 01:07:14,915 and then move from the property 2112 01:07:14,915 --> 01:07:16,220 with tt be vlating the 2113 01:07:16,220 --> 01:07:16,863 code and I would say, yes, 2114 01:07:16,863 --> 01:07:17,660 that they 2115 01:07:17,660 --> 01:07:19,486 re just basically 2116 01:07:19,486 --> 01:07:20,411 usg it f stora off 2117 01:07:20,411 --> 01:07:21,153 personal. 2118 01:07:21,153 --> 01:07:21,845 Property. 2119 01:07:21,845 --> 01:07:22,779 Even though tha garage eve 2120 01:07:22,779 --> 01:07:23,606 bein used for years ago. 2121 01:07:23,606 --> 01:07:24,406 But if they 2122 01:07:24,406 --> 01:07:25,279 not occupying it 2123 01:07:25,279 --> 01:07:26,993 emselves, I would I would 2124 01:07:26,993 --> 01:07:28,661 milarly see it similar. 2125 01:07:28,661 --> 01:07:29,663 Got it. Okay. Thank you. 2126 01:07:29,663 --> 01:07:30,458 Council membe I 2127 01:07:30,458 --> 01:07:32,458 morry. 2128 01:07:32,566 --> 01:07:33,667 Just just gohead. 2129 01:07:33,667 --> 01:07:34,801 Ju to build on that a ltle 2130 01:07:34,801 --> 01:07:37,801 bi You said during your 2131 01:07:38,205 --> 01:07:40,307 esentation that t accessory 2132 01:07:40,307 --> 01:07:41,708 use or seconry use,ou know, 2133 01:07:41,708 --> 01:07:42,875 e trational use is that 2134 01:07:42,875 --> 01:07:45,878 ther was a data center or 2135 01:07:45,878 --> 01:07:48,682 mputing cenr.T was a 2136 01:07:48,682 --> 01:07:50,682 enterprise data center 2137 01:07:50,817 --> 01:07:52,520 supptive of the main use o 2138 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,520 the prorty, whichas 2139 01:07:54,254 --> 01:07:55,155 search and development.Nd 2140 01:07:55,155 --> 01:07:56,990 one point, thought you 2141 01:07:56,990 --> 01:07:59,459 heard you say that. Wel up t 2142 01:07:59,459 --> 01:08:02,295 49% of the usef the building 2143 01:08:02,295 --> 01:08:04,230 could be the accsory use. But 2144 01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:05,108 itegs the qstion, that 2145 01:08:05,108 --> 01:08:05,978 s 2146 01:08:05,978 --> 01:08:06,957 only I there 2147 01:08:06,957 --> 01:08:07,976 sn existing 2148 01:08:07,976 --> 01:08:08,935 imary use. That 2149 01:08:08,935 --> 01:08:09,747 a use 2150 01:08:09,747 --> 01:08:10,672 that 2151 01:08:10,672 --> 01:08:12,706 s within the guiding and 2152 01:08:12,706 --> 01:08:14,674 zong for the purpose. So if 2153 01:08:14,674 --> 01:08:16,143 more than 49% of it I being 2154 01:08:16,143 --> 01:08:18,445 usedor wt was supposed to 2155 01:08:18,445 --> 01:08:19,485 be the sondary use, or if a 2156 01:08:19,485 --> 01:08:20,358 ceain portion o it 2157 01:08:20,358 --> 01:08:21,202 s being 2158 01:08:21,202 --> 01:08:22,102 used,ut the rest of the 2159 01:08:22,102 --> 01:08:22,982 building is emptynd 2160 01:08:22,982 --> 01:08:24,250 undetilized, that doesn 2161 01:08:24,250 --> 01:08:25,352 t 2162 01:08:25,352 --> 01:08:27,521 seem to fit our standards. Or 2163 01:08:27,521 --> 01:08:28,922 am Iistaken on that? 2164 01:08:28,922 --> 01:08:30,924 MR.. Mter mayor, Council 2165 01:08:30,924 --> 01:08:31,656 member backing that? That 2166 01:08:31,656 --> 01:08:32,442 s 2167 01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:34,600 correct. I mn, that is really 2168 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,380 the zoning question of policy 2169 01:08:35,380 --> 01:08:36,230 beforeou. If there 2170 01:08:36,230 --> 01:08:37,965 s not an 2171 01:08:37,965 --> 01:08:39,499 occupant occupying the offic 2172 01:08:39,499 --> 01:08:41,101 building, is there reall then 2173 01:08:41,101 --> 01:08:42,185 a principal u that 2174 01:08:42,185 --> 01:08:43,470 s takg 2175 01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:44,638 place withi the pperty?Nd 2176 01:08:44,638 --> 01:08:45,729 is it just only the data 2177 01:08:45,729 --> 01:08:46,840 center? 2178 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,843 At some point, the the 2179 01:08:48,843 --> 01:08:50,760 accessory use,ou know, the 2180 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,745 tail srts toag the d and 2181 01:08:51,745 --> 01:08:53,814 it becomes the pmary use. 2182 01:08:53,814 --> 01:08:55,583 Yeah. Okay. So the other 2183 01:08:55,583 --> 01:08:57,617 question Iad related to iep 2184 01:08:57,617 --> 01:08:58,519 is and I already know the 2185 01:08:58,519 --> 01:08:59,687 answer t the question, but 2186 01:08:59,687 --> 01:09:01,687 hypothetically, wld we 2187 01:09:02,222 --> 01:09:04,257 entertain an iep in an 2188 01:09:04,257 --> 01:09:06,657 industrial zone to introduce 2189 01:09:06,828 --> 01:09:08,428 resideial houng? Or does 2190 01:09:08,428 --> 01:09:10,164 that cngehe naturef the 2191 01:09:10,164 --> 01:09:11,760 guiding and the underlying 2192 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,660 guidg and zong of the 2193 01:09:13,660 --> 01:09:14,192 property so muc that it 2194 01:09:14,192 --> 01:09:15,433 s not 2195 01:09:15,433 --> 01:09:17,271 reallyppropriate for an iep? 2196 01:09:17,271 --> 01:09:18,773 Because b granting the iup, 2197 01:09:18,773 --> 01:09:19,848 you would fundantally change 2198 01:09:19,848 --> 01:09:21,509 the nature of the u of the 2199 01:09:21,509 --> 01:09:22,742 property. 2200 01:09:22,742 --> 01:09:23,910 Mr.Ayor, Councilmber back 2201 01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:26,179 and correct, we wou not 2202 01:09:26,179 --> 01:09:27,314 entertain an iep to introduce a 2203 01:09:27,314 --> 01:09:28,950 permanent useike single 2204 01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:29,681 familyousing andndustrial 2205 01:09:29,681 --> 01:09:30,718 ea. 2206 01:09:30,718 --> 01:09:31,819 But if sebody instedn 2207 01:09:31,819 --> 01:09:32,526 aski the question, we 2208 01:09:32,526 --> 01:09:34,526 det 2209 01:09:34,622 --> 01:09:36,230 th file f the iep. But the 2210 01:09:36,230 --> 01:09:36,957 answer would be what? What 2211 01:09:36,957 --> 01:09:38,890 logically be no. 2212 01:09:38,890 --> 01:09:39,494 Yeah And the proper 2213 01:09:39,494 --> 01:09:41,262 applicatn wld be t regard 2214 01:09:41,262 --> 01:09:43,262 a reze theroperty. 2215 01:09:43,831 --> 01:09:44,740 Okay. Iight have mor 2216 01:09:44,740 --> 01:09:45,807 questions later, b that 2217 01:09:45,807 --> 01:09:46,879 s 2218 01:09:46,879 --> 01:09:47,955 good for now 2219 01:09:47,955 --> 01:09:49,955 I 2220 01:09:50,238 --> 01:09:51,116 ll l meet aside the 2221 01:09:51,116 --> 01:09:51,979 ning issues. W 2222 01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:52,819 re going to 2223 01:09:52,819 --> 01:09:53,596 have some disagementsnd 2224 01:09:53,596 --> 01:09:54,371 we 2225 01:09:54,371 --> 01:09:56,677 just have to agr to 2226 01:09:56,677 --> 01:09:58,146 disaee. I gue on the on the 2227 01:09:58,146 --> 01:09:58,919 noise migation. I mean, I 2228 01:09:58,919 --> 01:09:59,859 m 2229 01:09:59,859 --> 01:10:00,611 I 2230 01:10:00,611 --> 01:10:02,611 troubledy the 2231 01:10:03,451 --> 01:10:04,156 inallation of the We 2232 01:10:04,156 --> 01:10:05,920 ll just 2233 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:06,623 call them the four chiers. 2234 01:10:06,623 --> 01:10:07,655 Don 2235 01:10:07,655 --> 01:10:09,157 t know if there were 2236 01:10:09,157 --> 01:10:10,240 envisioned asermanent time or 2237 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:10,714 temporary, a I don 2238 01:10:10,714 --> 01:10:12,714 t wt to 2239 01:10:12,959 --> 01:10:14,662 getack on that argent. But 2240 01:10:14,662 --> 01:10:17,662 at the time ofhe installatio. 2241 01:10:22,437 --> 01:10:24,105 What was the the the the 2242 01:10:24,105 --> 01:10:26,105 reasong behind installing 2243 01:10:26,307 --> 01:10:28,707 them andot having concern 2244 01:10:29,544 --> 01:10:32,544 about about noise in the 2245 01:10:32,914 --> 01:10:34,810 surrounding area? I mea help 2246 01:10:34,810 --> 01:10:35,483 me out with tha 2247 01:10:35,483 --> 01:10:36,919 i think the assumion w that 2248 01:10:36,919 --> 01:10:39,319 they would mee theoise 2249 01:10:39,620 --> 01:10:41,620 standards. 2250 01:10:47,895 --> 01:10:50,895 Okay.Mpressive I wt to 2251 01:10:52,233 --> 01:10:54,669 talk about the noise. Studi 2252 01:10:54,669 --> 01:10:57,690 th were don, my 2253 01:11:00,875 --> 01:11:02,875 understandg thumbnail is. 2254 01:11:05,813 --> 01:11:08,813 Installed t. The the fr 2255 01:11:10,285 --> 01:11:12,187 chlers and the timelinoes 2256 01:11:12,187 --> 01:11:15,787 for chillers on site. Not yet 2257 01:11:17,525 --> 01:11:19,925 operational.Ity informs iron 2258 01:11:23,699 --> 01:11:26,435 gate Need for a iup.Ron 2259 01:11:26,435 --> 01:11:28,835 gate in beten that 2260 01:11:28,903 --> 01:11:30,903 notification and actual 2261 01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:33,108 applationor the I starts 2262 01:11:33,108 --> 01:11:35,508 to operate thehillers without 2263 01:11:38,613 --> 01:11:41,750 the permit and ands a resul 2264 01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:43,519 of conces expressed o passed 2265 01:11:43,519 --> 01:11:45,753 onrom the city to your 2266 01:11:45,753 --> 01:11:47,289 applican the noise issue 2267 01:11:47,289 --> 01:11:48,201 comesp only after you 2268 01:11:48,201 --> 01:11:50,201 ve 2269 01:11:50,858 --> 01:11:52,858 started Opetionorrect. 2270 01:11:53,262 --> 01:11:56,864 I all I recl is tha the 2271 01:11:56,864 --> 01:11:58,200 noise issue was part of the iup 2272 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,600 plication that we were 2273 01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:04,470 requeste to make. 2274 01:12:06,674 --> 01:12:08,310 MR.. Schultz Mike. Wl, when 2275 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:10,445 we when y informed, you 2276 01:12:10,445 --> 01:12:12,313 informed thepplicant. 2277 01:12:12,313 --> 01:12:13,500 Informed the sta. Informed 2278 01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:13,656 I can 2279 01:12:13,656 --> 01:12:14,716 t rememr for mysf, 2280 01:12:14,716 --> 01:12:15,243 r one of my staff informed 2281 01:12:15,243 --> 01:12:16,151 the. 2282 01:12:16,151 --> 01:12:18,319 Applicant andas that was that 2283 01:12:18,319 --> 01:12:20,550 was w that as result of 2284 01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:22,455 noise complaints from the 2285 01:12:22,558 --> 01:12:24,493 operation or from observati 2286 01:12:24,493 --> 01:12:25,828 the cooleeing on site? 2287 01:12:25,828 --> 01:12:27,429 The initial contact w 2288 01:12:27,429 --> 01:12:28,630 obrvation of the chiers on 2289 01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:29,364 site. 2290 01:12:29,364 --> 01:12:30,160 Ay. And at that pnt, we 2291 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:30,612 don 2292 01:12:30,612 --> 01:12:31,330 tnow. That opetion 2293 01:12:31,330 --> 01:12:32,668 started. 2294 01:12:32,668 --> 01:12:33,602 At thatoint. Wead notnown 2295 01:12:33,602 --> 01:12:34,769 operations staed. 2296 01:12:34,769 --> 01:12:35,804 And had weeceived any noise 2297 01:12:35,804 --> 01:12:36,839 complaints. 2298 01:12:36,839 --> 01:12:39,839 Not up until that point. 2299 01:12:39,875 --> 01:12:41,743 No Okay. Wn did t know 2300 01:12:41,743 --> 01:12:42,678 when did the chills become 2301 01:12:42,678 --> 01:12:43,260 operant? 2302 01:12:43,260 --> 01:12:43,946 I don 2303 01:12:43,946 --> 01:12:44,616 t kno the I don 2304 01:12:44,616 --> 01:12:46,616 t know 2305 01:12:47,483 --> 01:12:48,717 the date. Sometime aftere had 2306 01:12:48,717 --> 01:12:51,717 be informed that weeeded an 2307 01:12:51,753 --> 01:12:53,753 iup. 2308 01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:54,797 Okay. So noise wasn 2309 01:12:54,797 --> 01:12:56,797 t part of 2310 01:12:57,593 --> 01:12:59,695 the conversatn of the I 2311 01:12:59,695 --> 01:13:01,130 untilhe cllersctually 2312 01:13:01,130 --> 01:13:02,598 started operang, corre? 2313 01:13:02,598 --> 01:13:04,660 Correct. And the receiving 2314 01:13:04,660 --> 01:13:05,468 complaints,oise cplaints 2315 01:13:05,468 --> 01:13:06,301 over the weend fro fm 2316 01:13:06,301 --> 01:13:08,301 the chillers. 2317 01:13:09,505 --> 01:13:10,740 Okay. So the resnse to noi 2318 01:13:10,740 --> 01:13:12,474 colaints is to do a noise 2319 01:13:12,474 --> 01:13:13,542 study. Correct. 2320 01:13:13,542 --> 01:13:15,878 Y that again please. 2321 01:13:15,878 --> 01:13:19,181 Th the the response to the 2322 01:13:19,181 --> 01:13:21,817 noise cplaints was to do a 2323 01:13:21,817 --> 01:13:23,585 noise sdy. 2324 01:13:23,585 --> 01:13:27,550 We did a noise study because 2325 01:13:27,550 --> 01:13:28,423 the IUPequired it.. 2326 01:13:28,423 --> 01:13:29,459 Does t IUPequire it Mic or 2327 01:13:29,459 --> 01:13:30,202 did we pas along the concern 2328 01:13:30,202 --> 01:13:32,202 about noise. 2329 01:13:33,262 --> 01:13:34,763 Ah Mary. Yeah we we we did 2330 01:13:34,763 --> 01:13:36,966 ask for the noise study 2331 01:13:36,966 --> 01:13:39,268 followg theubmittal of the 2332 01:13:39,268 --> 01:13:40,936 iup applicaon becau of the 2333 01:13:40,936 --> 01:13:42,871 ar or concerns for noise 2334 01:13:42,871 --> 01:13:43,906 generated from that. Those 2335 01:13:43,906 --> 01:13:45,906 compints receid from 2336 01:13:46,508 --> 01:13:47,709 resident certain supported 2337 01:13:47,709 --> 01:13:48,744 the nd for aoise study as 2338 01:13:48,744 --> 01:13:50,747 rt of the applicati. 2339 01:13:50,747 --> 01:13:53,783 Okay Soe do a noise stu 2340 01:13:53,783 --> 01:13:55,718 without strucral migation 2341 01:13:55,718 --> 01:13:56,618 of noise t t to to lev 2342 01:13:56,618 --> 01:13:58,554 set,orrect? 2343 01:13:58,554 --> 01:14:00,557 Yes. In fact, I thinkhe noise 2344 01:14:00,557 --> 01:14:02,224 study wompleted prior to 2345 01:14:02,224 --> 01:14:04,627 e time tt the installation 2346 01:14:04,627 --> 01:14:05,428 operation began because it was 2347 01:14:05,428 --> 01:14:07,828 done based on the 2348 01:14:08,163 --> 01:14:10,563 specifications that tra gives 2349 01:14:12,535 --> 01:14:14,704 and notot o not on theasis 2350 01:14:14,704 --> 01:14:17,674 of, of actl oration that 2351 01:14:17,674 --> 01:14:18,321 came lat. 2352 01:14:18,321 --> 01:14:19,180 That doe 2353 01:14:19,180 --> 01:14:19,875 t. 2354 01:14:19,875 --> 01:14:22,478 An can you explain that 2355 01:14:22,478 --> 01:14:24,478 little me? Sure. 2356 01:14:25,982 --> 01:14:28,751 The. More science than I 2357 01:14:28,751 --> 01:14:30,385 understand, but but noise 2358 01:14:30,385 --> 01:14:33,385 studs are oftenmes based on 2359 01:14:35,125 --> 01:14:37,560 a model of wha what noiill 2360 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,560 come out of these machines. 2361 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,562 That dsn 2362 01:14:39,562 --> 01:14:40,964 t en depend on the 2363 01:14:40,964 --> 01:14:42,398 machines being operative. They 2364 01:14:42,398 --> 01:14:44,398 take the specificaonshe 2365 01:14:44,834 --> 01:14:47,270 ain pvides, and it says 2366 01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:49,471 they hav the, the the noise 2367 01:14:49,471 --> 01:14:51,474 engineers have these mels and 2368 01:14:51,474 --> 01:14:52,575 they say bedn this day 2369 01:14:52,575 --> 01:14:53,296 time,t should b this 2370 01:14:53,296 --> 01:14:54,110 nightte, it. 2371 01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:54,852 Should be this tnel. This 2372 01:14:54,852 --> 01:14:55,531 sty wasn 2373 01:14:55,531 --> 01:14:56,190 todeled. There 2374 01:14:56,190 --> 01:14:58,470 were monits, the were noise 2375 01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:58,971 monitors moniting decibel 2376 01:14:58,971 --> 01:15:00,383 levels. 2377 01:15:00,383 --> 01:15:03,219 The the first study the fir 2378 01:15:03,219 --> 01:15:06,819 port did not w based solely 2379 01:15:07,824 --> 01:15:09,824 uponhe specifications monitor 2380 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,228 then. And they indicated tha 2381 01:15:12,228 --> 01:15:14,364 we were goingo need some 2382 01:15:14,364 --> 01:15:15,532 noise migation just based on 2383 01:15:15,532 --> 01:15:16,166 the specs. A tha 2384 01:15:16,166 --> 01:15:18,166 s when w 2385 01:15:19,536 --> 01:15:21,672 arted t process toesign 2386 01:15:21,672 --> 01:15:23,106 and install the sound barriers 2387 01:15:23,106 --> 01:15:25,106 d the scaffolng. 2388 01:15:25,909 --> 01:15:28,909 Th material that you submitt 2389 01:15:29,712 --> 01:15:31,281 talked aboutour locations 2390 01:15:31,281 --> 01:15:32,582 arnd the buildg. Onene of 2391 01:15:32,582 --> 01:15:34,150 them, I belve it wasocation 2392 01:15:34,150 --> 01:15:34,984 two that was on the east side 2393 01:15:34,984 --> 01:15:37,554 the building, rig next to 2394 01:15:37,554 --> 01:15:39,556 Pilot Knob. Ather one was up 2395 01:15:39,556 --> 01:15:40,924 closer o the north. Thatas, 2396 01:15:40,924 --> 01:15:42,325 I belve, two. There were 2397 01:15:42,325 --> 01:15:43,660 three and four tha were o the 2398 01:15:43,660 --> 01:15:45,696 west and the south side of the 2399 01:15:45,696 --> 01:15:46,707 budings. Tho were actual 2400 01:15:46,707 --> 01:15:47,488 monitors. They weren 2401 01:15:47,488 --> 01:15:48,364 t, as far 2402 01:15:48,364 --> 01:15:49,490 as I understand. They weren 2403 01:15:49,490 --> 01:15:49,800 t 2404 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,200 models. They were actual 2405 01:15:53,537 --> 01:15:55,439 monitors picking up noise. 2406 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,108 Ther were two noise studies 2407 01:15:56,108 --> 01:15:56,773 ne. 2408 01:15:56,773 --> 01:15:58,274 I underand tha 2409 01:15:58,274 --> 01:16:00,844 Firstne wasone on a model, 2410 01:16:00,844 --> 01:16:03,513 and that model required based 2411 01:16:03,513 --> 01:16:04,614 on the city standards. And and 2412 01:16:04,614 --> 01:16:05,287 . Schultz can tell m if I 2413 01:16:05,287 --> 01:16:06,816 m 2414 01:16:06,816 --> 01:16:08,585 wrong.Ity standards says you 2415 01:16:08,585 --> 01:16:09,486 ve to. D you have to model 2416 01:16:09,486 --> 01:16:13,860 this You have to pvide a 2417 01:16:13,324 --> 01:16:14,959 noise sdy within 500 o 2418 01:16:14,959 --> 01:16:17,393 1000ft of every boundary of the 2419 01:16:17,393 --> 01:16:19,929 property. So the model then 2420 01:16:19,929 --> 01:16:21,232 take those pointsromhe 2421 01:16:21,232 --> 01:16:23,266 boundaes of theroperty into 2422 01:16:23,266 --> 01:16:24,535 consideration andreates the 2423 01:16:24,535 --> 01:16:26,935 nois study basedn that 2424 01:16:28,471 --> 01:16:31,875 model. Tn on the secon noise 2425 01:16:31,875 --> 01:16:32,580 udy, actua monitors were 2426 01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:34,580 put.. 2427 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,681 .O tell me then, how is it 2428 01:16:37,681 --> 01:16:38,916 that I read a document today 2429 01:16:38,916 --> 01:16:41,118 that talked about that, tt 2430 01:16:41,118 --> 01:16:43,153 thatalked about before the 2431 01:16:43,153 --> 01:16:45,153 insulated walls, noise 2432 01:16:46,489 --> 01:16:48,489 asurements being taken 2433 01:16:48,692 --> 01:16:50,594 throughout a 24 hour, ateast 2434 01:16:50,594 --> 01:16:52,994 124 houeriod, if not two 2435 01:16:53,164 --> 01:16:54,865 The model requires the nse 2436 01:16:54,865 --> 01:16:57,330 measurements ofhat? Of what 2437 01:16:57,330 --> 01:17:00,330 th existing noise is bore 2438 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,373 thenstallation. S without 2439 01:17:03,373 --> 01:17:04,642 they they they get a basele. 2440 01:17:04,642 --> 01:17:06,677 If I understand the technogy 2441 01:17:06,677 --> 01:17:08,446 correctly of what the noise is, 2442 01:17:08,446 --> 01:17:11,446 where the noi isoming fro 2443 01:17:11,449 --> 01:17:13,717 th they use that a the, as 2444 01:17:13,717 --> 01:17:15,180 the sort of control for 2445 01:17:15,180 --> 01:17:17,180 applying the market. 2446 01:17:18,355 --> 01:17:19,950 I. I thi we 2447 01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:20,102 re tking about 2448 01:17:20,102 --> 01:17:21,200 the same thi. I don 2449 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:21,756 t I d 2450 01:17:21,756 --> 01:17:22,519 t 2451 01:17:22,519 --> 01:17:24,361 the moding language to me is 2452 01:17:24,361 --> 01:17:26,330 no appropriate here. There was 2453 01:17:26,330 --> 01:17:29,330 actually a sdy don befor 2454 01:17:29,366 --> 01:17:31,969 the wal were put up that 2455 01:17:31,969 --> 01:17:33,969 incated thatas tak. 2456 01:17:34,505 --> 01:17:36,240 Mples over a 24 hr perio 2457 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,240 ateast one.Orrect. 2458 01:17:39,343 --> 01:17:41,613 Not samples of the genator. 2459 01:17:41,613 --> 01:17:42,713 Noise sampl of the. 2460 01:17:42,713 --> 01:17:44,810 What is thi document up here? 2461 01:17:44,810 --> 01:17:44,965 What is tt? Wha whatoes 2462 01:17:44,965 --> 01:17:45,649 at tell me? 2463 01:17:45,649 --> 01:17:46,244 That 2464 01:17:46,244 --> 01:17:46,731 s that 2465 01:17:46,731 --> 01:17:47,250 s his. That 2466 01:17:47,250 --> 01:17:49,250 s that 2467 01:17:50,488 --> 01:17:52,888 was baspon the baseline 2468 01:17:53,724 --> 01:17:56,724 noise monitoring, but not bed 2469 01:17:57,294 --> 01:17:59,290 on the theoise fro the 2470 01:17:59,290 --> 01:18:01,429 nerator, though that first 2471 01:18:01,565 --> 01:18:03,965 studyas simplased un t 2472 01:18:05,770 --> 01:18:07,105 specificionss apped. 2473 01:18:07,105 --> 01:18:08,873 When washis? When was thi 2474 01:18:08,873 --> 01:18:12,473 study done? What was the date 2475 01:18:14,645 --> 01:18:16,213 the study was done on? 2476 01:18:16,213 --> 01:18:19,813 I think the first study was 2477 01:18:20,886 --> 01:18:21,919 done onarch 6th. 2478 01:18:21,919 --> 01:18:23,870 Okay. 2479 01:18:23,870 --> 01:18:25,870 MR. MAY. 2480 01:18:25,656 --> 01:18:26,857 Issued a report on Marchth. 2481 01:18:26,857 --> 01:18:29,326 They issued a report on MARCH 2482 01:18:29,326 --> 01:18:30,227 6th. Wn were the when? So are 2483 01:18:30,227 --> 01:18:30,671 you suggestin that we 2484 01:18:30,671 --> 01:18:31,695 re not 2485 01:18:31,695 --> 01:18:33,632 measuremen doner thereere 2486 01:18:33,632 --> 01:18:35,133 measurents donet this time? 2487 01:18:35,133 --> 01:18:37,200 M suggestin tre were there 2488 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,402 were baseline msurements of 2489 01:18:39,771 --> 01:18:41,640 the sound of the neighborhd 2490 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,442 at tt time. And it is against 2491 01:18:43,442 --> 01:18:45,476 thos measurements that the 2492 01:18:45,476 --> 01:18:46,944 modeli occs.. 2493 01:18:46,944 --> 01:18:47,512 Were the chillers operational 2494 01:18:47,512 --> 01:18:48,400 at the time? 2495 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,881 I d 2496 01:18:49,881 --> 01:18:50,449 t believe so, my lor 2497 01:18:50,449 --> 01:18:52,449 Mr. MAY. 2498 01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:53,118 Wellet me.O I 2499 01:18:53,118 --> 01:18:53,546 m goi to 2500 01:18:53,546 --> 01:18:54,870 I 2501 01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:54,631 m going to I 2502 01:18:54,631 --> 01:18:56,555 m going t fp 2503 01:18:56,555 --> 01:18:57,112 om this stu and 2504 01:18:57,112 --> 01:18:59,112 ll just 2505 01:19:00,759 --> 01:19:02,828 be clear. The way this document 2506 01:19:02,828 --> 01:19:03,345 res to me doesot je wit 2507 01:19:03,345 --> 01:19:05,345 what y 2508 01:19:07,650 --> 01:19:07,524 re suggestin.Nd I 2509 01:19:07,524 --> 01:19:07,946 think it 2510 01:19:07,946 --> 01:19:09,946 s an important 2511 01:19:10,535 --> 01:19:12,535 comparison. This offers 2512 01:19:13,204 --> 01:19:15,604 specific tes and weather 2513 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,242 condions, resulting I what 2514 01:19:17,242 --> 01:19:19,111 appears to be a msurement, 2515 01:19:19,111 --> 01:19:21,511 not a theoreticodeling, but 2516 01:19:22,514 --> 01:19:23,748 an actual measurement. And this 2517 01:19:23,748 --> 01:19:26,748 appears toe to tak place 2518 01:19:29,154 --> 01:19:30,200 over4ours a hou long 2519 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:30,576 intervals. I 2520 01:19:30,576 --> 01:19:31,188 m not se what 2521 01:19:31,188 --> 01:19:34,188 happens in the in the 2522 01:19:34,959 --> 01:19:36,959 inteeningour. On Febary 2523 01:19:37,762 --> 01:19:39,564 26th. When do we start 2524 01:19:39,564 --> 01:19:40,272 receivg noise complaints? 2525 01:19:40,272 --> 01:19:40,899 The fir. 2526 01:19:40,899 --> 01:19:42,899 One. 2527 01:19:43,535 --> 01:19:44,836 MR. MAY, tirstomplaint 2528 01:19:44,836 --> 01:19:45,904 was sent to us onebruary 2529 01:19:45,904 --> 01:19:47,904 th. 2530 01:19:51,109 --> 01:19:52,177 Ok so, so so the fir time 2531 01:19:52,177 --> 01:19:53,912 we got a noise complaint was 2532 01:19:53,912 --> 01:19:54,680 e 28th corre? We don 2533 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,810 t kw 2534 01:19:56,810 --> 01:19:56,747 for support You, you you can 2535 01:19:56,747 --> 01:19:57,269 t 2536 01:19:57,269 --> 01:19:57,983 say when these went 2537 01:19:57,983 --> 01:19:58,617 operationa 2538 01:19:58,617 --> 01:19:59,256 Ion 2539 01:19:59,256 --> 01:19:59,918 t don 2540 01:19:59,918 --> 01:20:00,919 t have that 2541 01:20:00,919 --> 01:20:02,919 informationkay. 2542 01:20:02,988 --> 01:20:05,557 Suffe suffice to s that 2543 01:20:05,557 --> 01:20:06,793 FEBRUARY 26th and Februar 28th 2544 01:20:06,793 --> 01:20:08,793 aren somewt clo 2545 01:20:09,828 --> 01:20:11,429 proxity.Omewhere in the, 2546 01:20:11,429 --> 01:20:12,998 maybe in between the 26th and 2547 01:20:12,998 --> 01:20:15,167 the 28th, the chiller went 2548 01:20:15,167 --> 01:20:16,502 operatnal or they wer 2549 01:20:16,502 --> 01:20:17,129 operatiol before. We don 2550 01:20:17,129 --> 01:20:17,763 t 2551 01:20:17,763 --> 01:20:19,763 know. That 2552 01:20:23,475 --> 01:20:25,475 sine. Now, with 2553 01:20:26,478 --> 01:20:27,814 this level o detailed data, 2554 01:20:27,814 --> 01:20:29,982 can youelp me? Can youelp 2555 01:20:29,982 --> 01:20:34,182 explain? When I go to the APRIL 2556 01:20:34,586 --> 01:20:36,986 thound sdy, ws that 2557 01:20:41,726 --> 01:20:44,726 sound study limited? To the 2558 01:20:45,564 --> 01:20:48,266 ur o to 4 in the morning 2559 01:20:48,266 --> 01:20:50,102 instead of 24 hour period. 2560 01:20:50,102 --> 01:20:50,715 Firsy. 2561 01:20:50,715 --> 01:20:51,279 I 2562 01:20:51,279 --> 01:20:52,905 m not I 2563 01:20:52,905 --> 01:20:54,172 m not technical 2564 01:20:54,172 --> 01:20:56,408 qualified to answer that 2565 01:20:56,408 --> 01:20:58,808 qution. My speculaon is 2566 01:20:59,878 --> 01:21:02,278 at because theesting f 2567 01:21:02,949 --> 01:21:05,618 the oth hours ofhe day met 2568 01:21:05,618 --> 01:21:07,319 the require standards,hat 2569 01:21:07,319 --> 01:21:09,254 what we were focusing on were 2570 01:21:09,254 --> 01:21:10,456 therea at times of the day 2571 01:21:10,456 --> 01:21:11,860 en the sndardsere not 2572 01:21:11,860 --> 01:21:13,860 being met. 2573 01:21:13,625 --> 01:21:14,426 Okay. If you 2574 01:21:14,426 --> 01:21:15,494 ll nice, beten 2575 01:21:15,494 --> 01:21:18,597 this document and the one we 2576 01:21:18,597 --> 01:21:22,197 d up before, the fir one 2577 01:21:22,201 --> 01:21:24,601 showed 24 hours also showed 2578 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,639 weather conditions very, very 2579 01:21:29,374 --> 01:21:30,509 specifico the times. This o 2580 01:21:30,509 --> 01:21:32,909 incles no reference to 2581 01:21:33,579 --> 01:21:34,413 weher conditions at the time. 2582 01:21:34,413 --> 01:21:35,114 Why is that? 2583 01:21:35,114 --> 01:21:36,415 I c 2584 01:21:36,415 --> 01:21:38,815 t awer those specific 2585 01:21:38,851 --> 01:21:39,499 chnical queions. I 2586 01:21:39,499 --> 01:21:40,120 m not. 2587 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,210 I 2588 01:21:42,210 --> 01:21:44,756 m not a sound engineer 2589 01:21:44,756 --> 01:21:45,574 Okay, Couilor Bakken o 2590 01:21:45,574 --> 01:21:47,392 somebo else here. 2591 01:21:47,392 --> 01:21:49,829 I he some related questns 2592 01:21:49,829 --> 01:21:52,498 abt noise and MAY for staff 2593 01:21:52,498 --> 01:21:55,168 on ts chart, the locations 2594 01:21:55,168 --> 01:21:57,937 one through s, were they on 2595 01:21:57,937 --> 01:22:00,600 the subject propertyr I the 2596 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:01,307 surroundg neighborhoo? 2597 01:22:01,307 --> 01:22:02,875 Mr. Mor, Councilmeer Bh, 2598 01:22:02,875 --> 01:22:04,510 andy understanding is that 2599 01:22:04,510 --> 01:22:06,412 noise studi have to be done 2600 01:22:06,412 --> 01:22:08,800 at the receiving property lin 2601 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:09,449 at theearest point, not not 2602 01:22:09,449 --> 01:22:10,149 on the subject propey, but at 2603 01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:10,962 e receiver, rig at the 2604 01:22:10,962 --> 01:22:12,852 prerty line. 2605 01:22:12,852 --> 01:22:14,530 Ay. And can can you elain 2606 01:22:14,530 --> 01:22:15,120 to me the diffence betwe a 2607 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,689 nac one and an act three 2608 01:22:16,689 --> 01:22:17,306 receiver? 2609 01:22:17,306 --> 01:22:18,357 Sohere 2610 01:22:18,357 --> 01:22:19,959 s classificatn land 2611 01:22:19,959 --> 01:22:21,959 use classificionshat fall 2612 01:22:22,295 --> 01:22:25,331 into the nac one, nac two, nac 2613 01:22:25,331 --> 01:22:25,898 ree, NACne is resential, 2614 01:22:25,898 --> 01:22:27,166 and so that 2615 01:22:27,166 --> 01:22:28,367 s where can 2616 01:22:28,367 --> 01:22:29,100 certainly bng up aap that 2617 01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:29,585 showsp. But tha 2618 01:22:29,585 --> 01:22:30,603 s 2619 01:22:30,603 --> 01:22:32,538 resideial. The nac three I 2620 01:22:32,538 --> 01:22:34,538 believe, is institutialnd 2621 01:22:35,174 --> 01:22:36,409 pa related land us. So that 2622 01:22:36,409 --> 01:22:38,100 nac three, where the Srry 2623 01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:38,778 Tower is at I tnk ishe nac 2624 01:22:38,778 --> 01:22:40,778 thre 2625 01:22:44,685 --> 01:22:47,850 Ok. A thehehe noise 2626 01:22:48,455 --> 01:22:50,357 mits promulged by the p 2627 01:22:50,357 --> 01:22:52,757 are certainly good guidance, 2628 01:22:53,392 --> 01:22:55,963 but is the city allow to 2629 01:22:55,963 --> 01:22:57,263 exerci common sense whent 2630 01:22:57,263 --> 01:22:58,798 comeso sound, a 2631 01:22:58,798 --> 01:23:00,798 particularly sinceound is 2632 01:23:01,330 --> 01:23:02,636 very compl and dending o 2633 01:23:02,636 --> 01:23:03,289 the frequcy andow it 2634 01:23:03,289 --> 01:23:04,837 s 2635 01:23:04,837 --> 01:23:06,239 being reflected and different 2636 01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:07,875 soces emittin theame sound 2637 01:23:07,875 --> 01:23:08,523 wavean create interferometr 2638 01:23:08,523 --> 01:23:09,275 So you 2639 01:23:09,275 --> 01:23:11,210 ve got peaks and troughs 2640 01:23:11,210 --> 01:23:12,678 ere the waves cancel.Ou can 2641 01:23:12,678 --> 01:23:13,580 have locations in a certain 2642 01:23:13,580 --> 01:23:14,348 spot, o it 2643 01:23:14,348 --> 01:23:16,116 sctually muc 2644 01:23:16,116 --> 01:23:18,317 loud I terms o decibel tha 2645 01:23:18,317 --> 01:23:21,388 what you measure even0ft to 2646 01:23:21,388 --> 01:23:24,570 side. How muc leeway doe the 2647 01:23:24,570 --> 01:23:25,526 ty have to be mor stringe, 2648 01:23:25,526 --> 01:23:27,160 or try to apply common sense 2649 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,428 standards beyond what the pca 2650 01:23:29,428 --> 01:23:31,828 mightequire through a vy 2651 01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:33,599 mimal samplin? 2652 01:23:33,599 --> 01:23:34,300 Llet the cityttorney 2653 01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:35,168 addresshat. 2654 01:23:35,168 --> 01:23:36,903 MR. Mayor. Couilmember 2655 01:23:36,903 --> 01:23:38,672 Bachman, sta statutes does 2656 01:23:38,672 --> 01:23:40,107 not permit you to b more 2657 01:23:40,107 --> 01:23:42,507 stringent than the MPCa 2658 01:23:43,277 --> 01:23:45,211 andards. Hing said that, 2659 01:23:45,211 --> 01:23:47,790 the stu, you know, youave 2660 01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:47,616 toompare ales to apples. 2661 01:23:47,616 --> 01:23:48,158 At what you 2662 01:23:48,158 --> 01:23:48,689 re doing.O, I 2663 01:23:48,689 --> 01:23:49,249 mean that 2664 01:23:49,249 --> 01:23:49,950 s it 2665 01:23:49,950 --> 01:23:52,350 s a point in 2666 01:23:52,519 --> 01:23:55,519 time at:00 I the morningn 2667 01:23:57,900 --> 01:23:58,691 a 48 degree day. So it. You 2668 01:23:58,691 --> 01:23:59,927 have residts that were athe 2669 01:23:59,927 --> 01:24:00,960 planningommission tha spoke 2670 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,596 their home and o the 2671 01:24:02,596 --> 01:24:03,296 vibrion, and tha 2672 01:24:03,296 --> 01:24:05,320 s some 2673 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:06,400 compelli testimony. But 2674 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:06,996 agn, we 2675 01:24:06,996 --> 01:24:07,733 re notn the 2676 01:24:07,733 --> 01:24:10,170 busiss of going out and 2677 01:24:10,170 --> 01:24:10,838 measuring noi. We 2678 01:24:10,838 --> 01:24:11,939 d probably 2679 01:24:11,939 --> 01:24:13,807 have t hire someone 2680 01:24:13,807 --> 01:24:14,441 indepeent. Yeah. 2681 01:24:14,441 --> 01:24:15,660 Iuess what I 2682 01:24:15,660 --> 01:24:16,610 m getting at, 2683 01:24:16,610 --> 01:24:18,979 though,s that t whole 2684 01:24:18,979 --> 01:24:21,480 reason w have nse staards 2685 01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:21,620 is becau of t impact on 2686 01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:23,150 everydayeople 2687 01:24:23,150 --> 01:24:24,952 s lives, and 2688 01:24:24,952 --> 01:24:27,352 the noisetudies a certain 2689 01:24:27,454 --> 01:24:28,789 an attempt to get to that. But 2690 01:24:28,789 --> 01:24:30,124 cause of the complexityf 2691 01:24:30,124 --> 01:24:30,744 sound waves and I 2692 01:24:30,744 --> 01:24:31,859 ve 2693 01:24:31,859 --> 01:24:32,383 exrienced it myself. I mean, 2694 01:24:32,383 --> 01:24:32,952 ere 2695 01:24:32,952 --> 01:24:34,895 s this thi called the 2696 01:24:34,895 --> 01:24:36,296 Eagan hume think w kind of 2697 01:24:36,296 --> 01:24:37,965 figured outhere it was, but 2698 01:24:37,965 --> 01:24:39,167 my house just happens to be a 2699 01:24:39,167 --> 01:24:41,368 a conveence point whe we 2700 01:24:41,368 --> 01:24:42,970 ge the troughs ony side of 2701 01:24:42,970 --> 01:24:43,646 th bed. You can heart. I 2702 01:24:43,646 --> 01:24:44,638 s 2703 01:24:44,638 --> 01:24:45,312 sur loud on my wife 2704 01:24:45,312 --> 01:24:45,913 s se of 2705 01:24:45,913 --> 01:24:46,564 the bed. You can 2706 01:24:46,564 --> 01:24:47,214 t hea a 2707 01:24:47,214 --> 01:24:48,175 thing. It 2708 01:24:48,175 --> 01:24:49,176 s like what? 2709 01:24:49,176 --> 01:24:51,176 You know. 2710 01:24:53,981 --> 01:24:54,547 Foureet of differee. So 2711 01:24:54,547 --> 01:24:55,174 it 2712 01:24:55,174 --> 01:24:55,816 s it 2713 01:24:55,816 --> 01:24:56,382 s a big bed. 2714 01:24:56,382 --> 01:24:58,382 It 2715 01:24:58,886 --> 01:25:00,886 s like sheet 2716 01:25:01,155 --> 01:25:03,155 Nuff sd. 2717 01:25:03,357 --> 01:25:03,968 King size bed California king. 2718 01:25:03,968 --> 01:25:05,893 Don 2719 01:25:05,893 --> 01:25:06,727 t think about I too much. 2720 01:25:06,727 --> 01:25:08,950 Trying not to. 2721 01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:08,726 T. 2722 01:25:08,726 --> 01:25:09,263 I. 2723 01:25:09,263 --> 01:25:10,231 I guess wt I 2724 01:25:10,231 --> 01:25:12,167 m sing is 2725 01:25:12,167 --> 01:25:14,369 that,ou know, thereas to b 2726 01:25:14,369 --> 01:25:16,370 someype of bk end method 2727 01:25:16,370 --> 01:25:16,965 forelief. Because I you 2728 01:25:16,965 --> 01:25:18,965 ve 2729 01:25:19,674 --> 01:25:21,809 got folks who, you know, again, 2730 01:25:21,809 --> 01:25:24,645 sounds comex, it combines, it 2731 01:25:24,645 --> 01:25:25,237 propagates in certain ways. 2732 01:25:25,237 --> 01:25:25,705 They 2733 01:25:25,705 --> 01:25:27,140 re against the side of the 2734 01:25:27,140 --> 01:25:28,810 building. So the sound 2735 01:25:28,810 --> 01:25:30,810 s not 2736 01:25:30,951 --> 01:25:31,885 radiating inll directions. 2737 01:25:31,885 --> 01:25:33,387 E sound that would normally 2738 01:25:33,387 --> 01:25:34,788 go one way I beingeflected 2739 01:25:34,788 --> 01:25:36,558 and comned with t sound 2740 01:25:36,558 --> 01:25:38,459 going to the north, and it can 2741 01:25:38,459 --> 01:25:40,595 do funny things. So when when 2742 01:25:40,595 --> 01:25:42,163 people he acdotal stoes 2743 01:25:42,163 --> 01:25:44,163 about the houseibrating. 2744 01:25:44,164 --> 01:25:45,299 Yeah, ifou get jus the rig 2745 01:25:45,299 --> 01:25:46,437 sonance frequency, I don 2746 01:25:46,437 --> 01:25:48,870 know if the things are 2747 01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:49,938 operating at, at 60Hz or, or 2748 01:25:49,938 --> 01:25:52,338 whater, like a regular 2749 01:25:52,941 --> 01:25:54,375 compreor, but y can get 2750 01:25:54,375 --> 01:25:55,776 stctural resance and it c 2751 01:25:55,776 --> 01:25:56,257 be a big issue forhe person 2752 01:25:56,257 --> 01:25:56,910 who 2753 01:25:56,910 --> 01:25:57,611 on the receiving end of 2754 01:25:57,611 --> 01:25:58,580 it. 2755 01:25:58,580 --> 01:25:59,913 Can youpen the wdows in 2756 01:25:59,913 --> 01:26:01,482 your car just a littl bit, and 2757 01:26:01,482 --> 01:26:02,483 suenly you get that the whole 2758 01:26:02,483 --> 01:26:03,890 car starts rattling? 2759 01:26:03,890 --> 01:26:03,885 Ye, it 2760 01:26:03,885 --> 01:26:05,753 s the se kindf 2761 01:26:05,753 --> 01:26:06,169 thing. Yeah. 2762 01:26:06,169 --> 01:26:06,693 It 2763 01:26:06,693 --> 01:26:08,693 s balanced. 2764 01:26:10,125 --> 01:26:13,962 So I, I feel like more needso 2765 01:26:13,962 --> 01:26:15,596 be don in terms o of if we 2766 01:26:15,596 --> 01:26:17,564 even get there, mitigatinghe 2767 01:26:17,564 --> 01:26:19,300 real impacts on peoe who are 2768 01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:21,350 fected b the sound emitted 2769 01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:22,436 from tse chillers. And MAY 2770 01:26:22,436 --> 01:26:24,605 have more questions later about 2771 01:26:24,605 --> 01:26:25,739 how we can get theref 2772 01:26:25,739 --> 01:26:26,540 additionalonditions or 2773 01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:28,540 something lik that. 2774 01:26:29,410 --> 01:26:31,410 But I. 2775 01:26:31,513 --> 01:26:33,810 At the end of the day, you you 2776 01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:35,115 ke measurents at six 2777 01:26:35,115 --> 01:26:36,151 differentpots. It 2778 01:26:36,151 --> 01:26:36,721 s hpful, 2779 01:26:36,721 --> 01:26:38,286 but it doesn 2780 01:26:38,286 --> 01:26:39,754 t tl you how 2781 01:26:39,754 --> 01:26:41,723 affected residents are actually 2782 01:26:41,723 --> 01:26:43,723 experiencinghe noise. 2783 01:26:43,925 --> 01:26:44,615 And I just had one more 2784 01:26:44,615 --> 01:26:45,178 queson. Then I 2785 01:26:45,178 --> 01:26:45,732 . 2786 01:26:45,732 --> 01:26:46,728 Ge 2787 01:26:46,728 --> 01:26:48,930 Back to you Councilmember But 2788 01:26:48,930 --> 01:26:51,930 one more. Short line of 2789 01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:54,202 questioning. I think. Misr 2790 01:26:54,202 --> 01:26:54,626 Schultz reference the I 2791 01:26:54,626 --> 01:26:55,804 ll 2792 01:26:55,804 --> 01:26:57,839 refer to a the APRIL 27th 2793 01:26:57,839 --> 01:26:58,386 study, ande agreed that 2794 01:26:58,386 --> 01:27:00,800 s 2795 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,609 actuly atudy,lbeitn 2796 01:27:01,609 --> 01:27:02,178 hour lg, b itas actual it 2797 01:27:02,178 --> 01:27:02,811 sn 2798 01:27:02,811 --> 01:27:04,811 t modeled. Corct? 2799 01:27:05,914 --> 01:27:08,914 Correct. Okay. A coupl of 2800 01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:14,457 questis abouthat. What w 2801 01:27:14,457 --> 01:27:16,358 how many o the four chillers 2802 01:27:16,358 --> 01:27:17,860 re in operaonnd at what 2803 01:27:17,860 --> 01:27:19,761 level of opetion? 2804 01:27:19,761 --> 01:27:20,795 My undstandinghat there 2805 01:27:20,795 --> 01:27:21,663 were three chillers in 2806 01:27:21,663 --> 01:27:22,630 operation, because that 2807 01:27:22,630 --> 01:27:23,833 s t 2808 01:27:23,833 --> 01:27:26,167 design. T fourth is oy for 2809 01:27:26,167 --> 01:27:27,603 redundancy If one breaks down. 2810 01:27:27,603 --> 01:27:31,203 My assumption is tt they were 2811 01:27:32,740 --> 01:27:33,165 opering. They we operating. 2812 01:27:33,165 --> 01:27:34,142 I c 2813 01:27:34,142 --> 01:27:36,111 t tell you a what level 2814 01:27:36,111 --> 01:27:37,178 Okay, so earlier, Ihink 2815 01:27:37,178 --> 01:27:39,578 ring your preseation, you 2816 01:27:41,683 --> 01:27:44,352 suested tt t the esting 2817 01:27:44,352 --> 01:27:47,952 system had reaed t end o 2818 01:27:53,561 --> 01:27:57,761 its life and that. That. In t 2819 01:27:57,832 --> 01:27:59,769 in the for chiller approach. 2820 01:27:59,769 --> 01:28:01,970 That three of the frhillers 2821 01:28:01,970 --> 01:28:03,371 would need to be opeted 2822 01:28:03,371 --> 01:28:05,371 dependent oneather 2823 01:28:05,540 --> 01:28:05,980 conditions. Is that rht? 2824 01:28:05,980 --> 01:28:06,448 That 2825 01:28:06,448 --> 01:28:08,448 s corre. 2826 01:28:09,444 --> 01:28:10,400 Ay. But you so y don 2827 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,400 t you 2828 01:28:12,460 --> 01:28:13,215 ow that that thatou assume 2829 01:28:13,215 --> 01:28:15,160 th three ofhe four were 2830 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,218 operational athe time on 2831 01:28:16,218 --> 01:28:16,682 ril 27th, or y know, that. 2832 01:28:16,682 --> 01:28:17,252 Three I don 2833 01:28:17,252 --> 01:28:17,986 t know the awer 2834 01:28:17,986 --> 01:28:19,870 to that question. I 2835 01:28:19,870 --> 01:28:19,821 oy if. 2836 01:28:19,821 --> 01:28:20,723 If so, you don 2837 01:28:20,723 --> 01:28:21,557 . I just want 2838 01:28:21,557 --> 01:28:22,291 to be cle. You don 2839 01:28:22,291 --> 01:28:23,920 t knowor 2840 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,492 sure which ones were 2841 01:28:25,894 --> 01:28:26,205 erational. And beyond that, 2842 01:28:26,205 --> 01:28:27,328 you don 2843 01:28:27,328 --> 01:28:27,963 t know at what level 2844 01:28:27,963 --> 01:28:28,397 they wereperating. 2845 01:28:28,397 --> 01:28:28,931 Correct. I c 2846 01:28:28,931 --> 01:28:30,499 t tell y the 2847 01:28:30,499 --> 01:28:32,434 opational spefics. We cld 2848 01:28:32,434 --> 01:28:33,680 certainly ifft 2849 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:34,737 s theesire 2850 01:28:34,737 --> 01:28:36,380 of the council to have 2851 01:28:36,380 --> 01:28:38,438 additial noise studies have 2852 01:28:38,441 --> 01:28:40,176 the tech o the engineer ce 2853 01:28:40,176 --> 01:28:41,410 in, provide you additional 2854 01:28:41,410 --> 01:28:42,478 informatio and you want to 2855 01:28:42,478 --> 01:28:44,878 coinue this hearing forhat 2856 01:28:46,949 --> 01:28:47,336 purpe. We think we think 2857 01:28:47,336 --> 01:28:49,318 at 2858 01:28:49,318 --> 01:28:50,619 d be just fine. Now, these 2859 01:28:50,619 --> 01:28:52,188 temporary chillers are goi to 2860 01:28:52,188 --> 01:28:53,522 there f a very tporary 2861 01:28:53,522 --> 01:28:55,291 period of time, oy until the 2862 01:28:55,291 --> 01:28:56,292 peanent come, and in wch 2863 01:28:56,292 --> 01:28:57,325 case w have too the whole 2864 01:28:57,325 --> 01:28:59,361 thing over with resct. 2865 01:28:59,361 --> 01:29:01,796 And and when d the permanent 2866 01:29:01,796 --> 01:29:02,998 commment? 2867 01:29:02,998 --> 01:29:03,596 Rightow, we know tha they 2868 01:29:03,596 --> 01:29:05,100 ll 2869 01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:05,768 be in before the end of the six 2870 01:29:05,768 --> 01:29:06,335 month perio that w 2871 01:29:06,335 --> 01:29:08,335 re asking 2872 01:29:09,405 --> 01:29:09,941 for the for the council to 2873 01:29:09,941 --> 01:29:10,485 permit. 2874 01:29:10,485 --> 01:29:11,760 And that 2875 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:11,740 all we canank on. 2876 01:29:11,740 --> 01:29:12,315 Pardon me. Andhat 2877 01:29:12,315 --> 01:29:13,109 s all w 2878 01:29:13,109 --> 01:29:13,729 can bank on. 2879 01:29:13,729 --> 01:29:15,411 I don 2880 01:29:15,411 --> 01:29:16,545 t know thexact date 2881 01:29:16,545 --> 01:29:17,847 that we put I operation. 2882 01:29:17,847 --> 01:29:21,447 All rig. So so if awaed 2883 01:29:23,152 --> 01:29:24,453 tonight. MR. Attorney, one 2884 01:29:24,453 --> 01:29:25,588 would t if weward the 2885 01:29:25,588 --> 01:29:27,690 interim permit tonight, one 2886 01:29:27,690 --> 01:29:29,391 would it be effective to. 2887 01:29:29,391 --> 01:29:31,527 X months, MR. Mor, six 2888 01:29:31,527 --> 01:29:32,728 months fm tonight we would 2889 01:29:32,728 --> 01:29:34,296 have approve 2890 01:29:34,296 --> 01:29:35,698 The would woulde OCTOBER, 2891 01:29:35,698 --> 01:29:37,698 vember,oughlyovember. 2892 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,400 Yeah Okay. Public schoolath. 2893 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:44,141 Sorry.Kay. 2894 01:29:44,141 --> 01:29:46,420 Counciember speaking. Thank 2895 01:29:46,420 --> 01:29:47,710 you. Actuall two questions, 2896 01:29:47,710 --> 01:29:49,120 stly clarication. One 2897 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,580 actually is on aomment tha 2898 01:29:51,580 --> 01:29:54,884 MR. Margolis just just said. So 2899 01:29:54,884 --> 01:29:55,752 the second noi study, it 2900 01:29:55,752 --> 01:29:56,553 sounds like the 2901 01:29:56,553 --> 01:29:57,520 s unctainty 2902 01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:57,988 of how my chiller are 2903 01:29:57,988 --> 01:29:58,554 operating. Wldn 2904 01:29:58,554 --> 01:30:00,156 t that be 2905 01:30:00,156 --> 01:30:02,391 kind of essenti to a noise 2906 01:30:02,391 --> 01:30:02,895 study?Ou know, howany of 2907 01:30:02,895 --> 01:30:03,391 what 2908 01:30:03,391 --> 01:30:03,835 operating when you 2909 01:30:03,835 --> 01:30:04,693 re 2910 01:30:04,693 --> 01:30:06,162 doing theoise study I mn, 2911 01:30:06,162 --> 01:30:07,129 is is tha part o the study? 2912 01:30:07,129 --> 01:30:07,619 Andt juste just doe 2913 01:30:07,619 --> 01:30:08,167 t 2914 01:30:08,167 --> 01:30:09,599 haen to have that iormation 2915 01:30:09,599 --> 01:30:10,734 at his fingerts right now? Or 2916 01:30:10,734 --> 01:30:12,936 was that never part of the 2917 01:30:12,936 --> 01:30:14,203 study. 2918 01:30:14,203 --> 01:30:16,600 MR. Mayor, Council memr 2919 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:17,273 subpoe I, I did point tt 2920 01:30:17,273 --> 01:30:18,441 out inhe presentatio that 2921 01:30:18,441 --> 01:30:20,760 that is auestion of this 2922 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:21,510 studyas, y know, therere 2923 01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:23,312 some aects that come I 2924 01:30:23,312 --> 01:30:24,981 question I mean,he 48 degree 2925 01:30:24,981 --> 01:30:25,848 temperatur how my chiller 2926 01:30:25,848 --> 01:30:26,682 does it reference, how many 2927 01:30:26,682 --> 01:30:27,984 chillers wer actually I 2928 01:30:27,984 --> 01:30:28,247 operatn athe time? So 2929 01:30:28,247 --> 01:30:28,665 there 2930 01:30:28,665 --> 01:30:29,169 s tre 2931 01:30:29,169 --> 01:30:30,520 s a number of 2932 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:30,987 qutions. Still even with this 2933 01:30:30,987 --> 01:30:32,556 study. 2934 01:30:32,556 --> 01:30:33,100 Thank you.Nd then and I 2935 01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:34,890 ll 2936 01:30:34,890 --> 01:30:36,489 point of clafication onhe 2937 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:38,161 fit noise study, there was a 2938 01:30:38,161 --> 01:30:39,328 t of discussion and I was 2939 01:30:39,328 --> 01:30:40,162 ybe getting a little muddled. 2940 01:30:40,162 --> 01:30:41,297 I just want t make sure I 2941 01:30:41,297 --> 01:30:43,697 understand the first noise 2942 01:30:44,201 --> 01:30:46,670 study. I soundsike it was a 2943 01:30:46,670 --> 01:30:47,804 initial initi readings of 2944 01:30:47,804 --> 01:30:48,136 what the neighboood is like 2945 01:30:48,136 --> 01:30:50,136 when there 2946 01:30:50,339 --> 01:30:52,174 no cllers in 2947 01:30:52,174 --> 01:30:54,174 operation, justhe normal 2948 01:30:54,376 --> 01:30:56,480 neighborhood that is the 2949 01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:58,281 baseline. And thenou take the 2950 01:30:58,281 --> 01:31:00,517 mol of these chillers and 2951 01:31:00,517 --> 01:31:02,218 basilly orlay what com 2952 01:31:02,218 --> 01:31:04,200 ou of the chillers spe over 2953 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:04,854 that baseline. And tt 2954 01:31:04,854 --> 01:31:06,656 s that 2955 01:31:06,656 --> 01:31:08,224 was wt compose t initial 2956 01:31:08,224 --> 01:31:11,224 noise study. I that corre? 2957 01:31:11,795 --> 01:31:13,290 Ye sir.Nd council member 2958 01:31:13,290 --> 01:31:14,296 lookingt the report, the 2959 01:31:14,296 --> 01:31:17,633 port does say that there were 2960 01:31:17,633 --> 01:31:18,902 three operaonal chillers. 2961 01:31:18,902 --> 01:31:19,400 I at. 2962 01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,400 Ich time I 2963 01:31:21,838 --> 01:31:24,238 d hazard a guess 2964 01:31:25,375 --> 01:31:28,178 what level. B t tesng 2965 01:31:28,178 --> 01:31:30,447 wasone based on what the cy 2966 01:31:30,447 --> 01:31:31,480 asked the testing to be. So 2967 01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:33,283 m 2968 01:31:33,283 --> 01:31:34,850 my my guess is thathey were 2969 01:31:34,850 --> 01:31:37,486 they were they were fired up 2970 01:31:37,486 --> 01:31:38,655 and and were designed so tt 2971 01:31:38,655 --> 01:31:39,780 we couldet an aurate tt 2972 01:31:39,780 --> 01:31:39,702 of. 2973 01:31:39,702 --> 01:31:40,322 What 2974 01:31:40,322 --> 01:31:40,761 s goi on. Thank you. 2975 01:31:40,761 --> 01:31:42,292 Thank you, Mr.Ayor. 2976 01:31:42,292 --> 01:31:43,960 Just trying tonderstandhe 2977 01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,960 technogy a ltle bit. These 2978 01:31:47,130 --> 01:31:49,100 chillers are are they dledr 2979 01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:52,100 ar they either 100 on and 2980 01:31:52,736 --> 01:31:54,237 100% off? C, younow, can 2981 01:31:54,237 --> 01:31:56,207 they operateach individl 2982 01:31:56,207 --> 01:31:58,408 chiller like half capacity and 2983 01:31:58,408 --> 01:31:59,944 then dial up as the deman for 2984 01:31:59,944 --> 01:32:01,440 cooling increases? Or are they 2985 01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:01,572 litelly just on or on? 2986 01:32:01,572 --> 01:32:02,479 Ihink they 2987 01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:03,140 re on or off, b 2988 01:32:03,140 --> 01:32:03,880 I don 2989 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:04,614 t I again, I 2990 01:32:04,614 --> 01:32:05,160 m hazard a 2991 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:05,615 guess. I d 2992 01:32:05,615 --> 01:32:06,650 t know the science 2993 01:32:06,650 --> 01:32:08,650 behind I 2994 01:32:10,220 --> 01:32:11,688 Okay. 2995 01:32:11,688 --> 01:32:13,688 I, i 2996 01:32:14,758 --> 01:32:15,305 m sure I have plenty more 2997 01:32:15,305 --> 01:32:15,854 questions. I 2998 01:32:15,854 --> 01:32:16,337 m not surehat 2999 01:32:16,337 --> 01:32:16,927 s 3000 01:32:16,927 --> 01:32:19,300 gog to get us anywhe right 3001 01:32:19,300 --> 01:32:19,307 now. Maybe I 3002 01:32:19,307 --> 01:32:19,896 ll, I 3003 01:32:19,896 --> 01:32:21,310 ll Yeah. 3004 01:32:21,310 --> 01:32:21,495 Councilmember bk and you can 3005 01:32:21,495 --> 01:32:23,495 I 3006 01:32:25,168 --> 01:32:26,403 m gna maybe headoo 3007 01:32:26,403 --> 01:32:28,538 taking a rest hearing fm the 3008 01:32:28,538 --> 01:32:30,373 fos who showedp tonight and 3009 01:32:30,373 --> 01:32:31,675 then cing back and and 3010 01:32:31,675 --> 01:32:32,476 workin this outore. But by 3011 01:32:32,476 --> 01:32:33,311 all means, Cncilmember 3012 01:32:33,311 --> 01:32:34,244 Canfield. 3013 01:32:34,244 --> 01:32:35,613 Had a couple moreuestions 3014 01:32:35,613 --> 01:32:37,314 about the chillersnd the 3015 01:32:37,314 --> 01:32:38,448 chnology. You mentioned 3016 01:32:38,448 --> 01:32:39,583 earlier that these chillersre 3017 01:32:39,583 --> 01:32:40,980 more eicient than theld 3018 01:32:40,980 --> 01:32:41,284 ones 3019 01:32:41,284 --> 01:32:43,284 s. 3020 01:32:45,522 --> 01:32:47,992 Okay. And in terms ofach 3021 01:32:47,992 --> 01:32:50,293 dividual unit offer more 3022 01:32:50,293 --> 01:32:50,745 therma displacement than the 3023 01:32:50,745 --> 01:32:51,729 es they 3024 01:32:51,729 --> 01:32:53,498 re replang or that 3025 01:32:53,498 --> 01:32:54,750 th just use less electcity 3026 01:32:54,750 --> 01:32:55,165 and. 3027 01:32:55,165 --> 01:32:56,834 Water across the board. They 3028 01:32:56,834 --> 01:32:59,234 arehey are more efficient. 3029 01:33:01,380 --> 01:33:04,380 They work betr, and the 3030 01:33:04,975 --> 01:33:07,110 require less maintenance.Kay. 3031 01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:07,389 D most importantly they 3032 01:33:07,389 --> 01:33:08,790 don 3033 01:33:08,790 --> 01:33:09,981 tse water. 3034 01:33:09,981 --> 01:33:11,415 Okay.O if if you wer to take 3035 01:33:11,415 --> 01:33:13,815 one ofhose rooftopnits, the 3036 01:33:13,950 --> 01:33:18,150 old ones and one of the new 3037 01:33:18,289 --> 01:33:20,491 ones 1o 1he new one would 3038 01:33:20,491 --> 01:33:22,126 provide morhermal 3039 01:33:22,126 --> 01:33:23,528 displacement or me chilling 3040 01:33:23,528 --> 01:33:24,600 capaci than one of the old 3041 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:24,828 ones. 3042 01:33:24,828 --> 01:33:25,263 M assuming they 3043 01:33:25,263 --> 01:33:26,164 more 3044 01:33:26,164 --> 01:33:27,298 efficient, is what I 3045 01:33:27,298 --> 01:33:29,298 undersnd. 3046 01:33:31,369 --> 01:33:32,203 Okay I had a cple other 3047 01:33:32,203 --> 01:33:32,737 Ye, I don 3048 01:33:32,737 --> 01:33:33,329 t mean to hur. 3049 01:33:33,329 --> 01:33:33,683 Yeah. 3050 01:33:33,683 --> 01:33:35,239 I 3051 01:33:35,239 --> 01:33:36,700 m just. Yea I, kind of 3052 01:33:36,700 --> 01:33:37,442 having a hard time 3053 01:33:37,442 --> 01:33:37,930 understandg who exactly is in 3054 01:33:37,930 --> 01:33:38,456 charge of wt 3055 01:33:38,456 --> 01:33:38,936 s goingn over 3056 01:33:38,936 --> 01:33:40,440 there. 3057 01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:40,347 Except I said it again. 3058 01:33:40,347 --> 01:33:41,450 I 3059 01:33:41,450 --> 01:33:42,880 m having aard time 3060 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:43,358 understanding w exact I in 3061 01:33:43,358 --> 01:33:44,480 charge of wha 3062 01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:46,480 s goingn over 3063 01:33:47,752 --> 01:33:50,540 there. Eagan capital llc, they 3064 01:33:50,540 --> 01:33:51,421 own theroperty. Yes. And Iron 3065 01:33:51,421 --> 01:33:51,934 Gates the tenantho 3066 01:33:51,934 --> 01:33:53,934 s 3067 01:33:55,993 --> 01:33:56,461 operating their. Operating data 3068 01:33:56,461 --> 01:33:58,461 nter. 3069 01:34:00,998 --> 01:34:04,598 The Iron Gate is a subsiary 3070 01:34:06,604 --> 01:34:08,840 of an affilte of Eagan 3071 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,840 Catal. 3072 01:34:12,944 --> 01:34:14,779 Ich affilia I I Woodbury 3073 01:34:14,779 --> 01:34:16,914 Capital, l. Ist Swivel 3074 01:34:16,914 --> 01:34:19,314 Managementivision, llc? Is it 3075 01:34:19,383 --> 01:34:21,190 ivelonsulting, llc?St 3076 01:34:21,190 --> 01:34:22,320 Swivel Developntorporation, 3077 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,154 which used t be known as Baby 3078 01:34:23,154 --> 01:34:25,154 Honeyntertainment 3079 01:34:25,456 --> 01:34:27,456 corporated? Which which 3080 01:34:28,250 --> 01:34:28,527 organization is in chae? 3081 01:34:28,527 --> 01:34:29,460 It is it 3082 01:34:29,460 --> 01:34:29,874 s an affiliate and 3083 01:34:29,874 --> 01:34:30,339 it 3084 01:34:30,339 --> 01:34:30,834 s owned by the it 3085 01:34:30,834 --> 01:34:32,763 s under 3086 01:34:32,763 --> 01:34:34,265 commonontrol of of thewners 3087 01:34:34,265 --> 01:34:36,265 of swivel development. 3088 01:34:36,401 --> 01:34:37,935 Okay. S swivel devopment 3089 01:34:37,935 --> 01:34:40,935 sort of where thingsnd and 3090 01:34:41,773 --> 01:34:44,773 iron gate tha pticular chu 3091 01:34:44,876 --> 01:34:46,100 is it iron gate. One word llc 3092 01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:46,683 is that the actualusiness. 3093 01:34:46,683 --> 01:34:47,824 It 3094 01:34:47,824 --> 01:34:48,629 s not a it 3095 01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:49,641 s not an llc. 3096 01:34:49,641 --> 01:34:50,515 It 3097 01:34:50,515 --> 01:34:51,455 s an operatingivision. 3098 01:34:51,455 --> 01:34:52,304 Okay. S it 3099 01:34:52,304 --> 01:34:53,178 s it 3100 01:34:53,178 --> 01:34:53,910 s not a 3101 01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:54,765 separate biness that 3102 01:34:54,765 --> 01:34:55,588 s bn 3103 01:34:55,588 --> 01:34:56,371 fid with the sectary. 3104 01:34:56,371 --> 01:34:56,989 Of state. Ion 3105 01:34:56,989 --> 01:34:57,659 t believeo. 3106 01:34:57,659 --> 01:34:58,312 Well, tha 3107 01:34:58,312 --> 01:34:59,100 s why I coun 3108 01:34:59,100 --> 01:34:59,551 t. 3109 01:34:59,551 --> 01:35:00,300 Findt. 3110 01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:01,122 Dba no, it 3111 01:35:01,122 --> 01:35:01,742 s not even in there 3112 01:35:01,742 --> 01:35:02,499 as a diva. 3113 01:35:02,499 --> 01:35:04,496 Oh okay. 3114 01:35:04,496 --> 01:35:05,630 Ok. So okay. Well, I thi 3115 01:35:05,630 --> 01:35:06,765 that 3116 01:35:06,765 --> 01:35:08,200 s enough on that. The I 3117 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:08,934 gues the the last questns I 3118 01:35:08,934 --> 01:35:10,934 had is it 3119 01:35:11,350 --> 01:35:11,627 sy under the 3120 01:35:11,627 --> 01:35:12,319 s 3121 01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:13,671 diffent types ofata 3122 01:35:13,671 --> 01:35:16,710 cents. You knowack inhe 3123 01:35:17,142 --> 01:35:18,476 day data center was storage. 3124 01:35:18,476 --> 01:35:20,145 Typically t supportnterprise 3125 01:35:20,145 --> 01:35:21,512 use whereeople wou store 3126 01:35:21,512 --> 01:35:22,313 files and they 3127 01:35:22,313 --> 01:35:24,182 d be accessed 3128 01:35:24,182 --> 01:35:25,249 from time t time, maybe pulled 3129 01:35:25,249 --> 01:35:26,751 off. And if ty were 3130 01:35:26,751 --> 01:35:28,200 manipulated anyway, itas done 3131 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,420 on a mainframer something 3132 01:35:31,457 --> 01:35:32,524 else. These days,ata cenrs 3133 01:35:32,524 --> 01:35:33,281 can be sometng otherhan 3134 01:35:33,281 --> 01:35:34,420 orage. There 3135 01:35:34,420 --> 01:35:35,393 s also da 3136 01:35:35,393 --> 01:35:36,662 ceers that are compute. Those 3137 01:35:36,662 --> 01:35:39,662 arehe ones tha are, you 3138 01:35:39,965 --> 01:35:42,965 know, mining Bitcoin or making, 3139 01:35:43,135 --> 01:35:45,604 you know,I videos of cats 3140 01:35:45,604 --> 01:35:48,400 dog things orhatever is, 3141 01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:49,410 is, is the u here stoge or 3142 01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:49,808 compute? 3143 01:35:49,808 --> 01:35:50,976 Belie it 3144 01:35:50,976 --> 01:35:51,689 a computer. 3145 01:35:51,689 --> 01:35:52,307 It 3146 01:35:52,307 --> 01:35:53,250 st 3147 01:35:53,250 --> 01:35:53,847 s computaon, n 3148 01:35:53,847 --> 01:35:55,580 stage. 3149 01:35:55,580 --> 01:35:56,176 I believe so but I, I again I 3150 01:35:56,176 --> 01:35:56,826 don 3151 01:35:56,826 --> 01:35:57,529 t I can 3152 01:35:57,529 --> 01:35:58,247 t tl you the 3153 01:35:58,247 --> 01:35:59,284 answer t that if y want if 3154 01:35:59,284 --> 01:36:00,619 u want me to ask t questn 3155 01:36:00,619 --> 01:36:01,498 I will get it for you. 3156 01:36:01,498 --> 01:36:02,322 Okay. 3157 01:36:02,322 --> 01:36:03,722 De interested in the 3158 01:36:03,722 --> 01:36:05,524 answer to that questio 3159 01:36:05,524 --> 01:36:08,160 etherhe the t usage of 3160 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,162 th data center is fused on 3161 01:36:10,162 --> 01:36:10,730 storage and retrieval o I 3162 01:36:10,730 --> 01:36:12,598 it 3163 01:36:12,598 --> 01:36:13,926 sn compute. 3164 01:36:13,926 --> 01:36:14,839 I 3165 01:36:14,839 --> 01:36:15,664 m I 3166 01:36:15,664 --> 01:36:16,499 m certain it 3167 01:36:16,499 --> 01:36:17,287 s some of 3168 01:36:17,287 --> 01:36:17,958 some of the lter. 3169 01:36:17,958 --> 01:36:18,702 You 3170 01:36:18,702 --> 01:36:19,533 re ctain that it 3171 01:36:19,533 --> 01:36:21,533 s some 3172 01:36:22,174 --> 01:36:24,209 comput Okay. I think. 3173 01:36:24,209 --> 01:36:25,410 And byirtue some storage. 3174 01:36:25,410 --> 01:36:26,945 Pard me. 3175 01:36:26,945 --> 01:36:28,413 And by virtue of that some 3176 01:36:28,413 --> 01:36:30,413 storage. 3177 01:36:30,582 --> 01:36:31,863 I again athing more than I 3178 01:36:31,863 --> 01:36:32,684 say is going toe based on 3179 01:36:32,684 --> 01:36:33,752 speculatioo I 3180 01:36:33,752 --> 01:36:34,954 m happyo 3181 01:36:34,954 --> 01:36:36,540 try and answer your questio. 3182 01:36:36,540 --> 01:36:36,808 But by someby who kno the 3183 01:36:36,808 --> 01:36:37,580 answer, sure. 3184 01:36:37,580 --> 01:36:38,286 Iuess I 3185 01:36:38,286 --> 01:36:39,358 m interted in what 3186 01:36:39,358 --> 01:36:42,327 the pmary use is. Iean, 3187 01:36:42,327 --> 01:36:42,940 even with a pure compute data 3188 01:36:42,940 --> 01:36:43,879 center, there 3189 01:36:43,879 --> 01:36:44,842 s always going to 3190 01:36:44,842 --> 01:36:45,522 be a ltle bit of stora 3191 01:36:45,522 --> 01:36:46,598 beuse tngs need to be 3192 01:36:46,598 --> 01:36:47,833 stored temporily locally. 3193 01:36:47,833 --> 01:36:48,804 Well the compute worksn it, 3194 01:36:48,804 --> 01:36:49,569 but. 3195 01:36:49,569 --> 01:36:51,770 I c tell y that the oer 3196 01:36:51,770 --> 01:36:54,540 da centers that ion g uses 3197 01:36:54,540 --> 01:36:55,542 is one of of compung as 3198 01:36:55,542 --> 01:36:57,542 opposed to storage. 3199 01:37:00,179 --> 01:37:01,447 Okay, computing. Okay. Tt 3200 01:37:01,447 --> 01:37:04,447 answs my questio Thank you. 3201 01:37:06,850 --> 01:37:08,850 Thank you. 3202 01:37:08,220 --> 01:37:10,220 Mi I, Mikechultz 3203 01:37:11,624 --> 01:37:14,240 apologe, but you mentioned 3204 01:37:15,127 --> 01:37:18,127 iteria five. Can you unpack 3205 01:37:18,330 --> 01:37:19,933 that a lite bit more for me 3206 01:37:19,933 --> 01:37:22,333 in termsf non presentatio 3207 01:37:24,370 --> 01:37:24,735 modend explain it like we 3208 01:37:24,735 --> 01:37:26,405 re 3209 01:37:26,405 --> 01:37:28,405 talking 3210 01:37:29,141 --> 01:37:32,741 Yeah yeah. L meind the code 3211 01:37:49,529 --> 01:37:51,130 here again. So under the iup 3212 01:37:51,130 --> 01:37:52,532 under theup therere a 3213 01:37:52,532 --> 01:37:55,532 number o criteria tt are 3214 01:37:56,135 --> 01:37:57,403 that are listed andnder five. 3215 01:37:57,403 --> 01:37:58,204 Still trying to get to that up 3216 01:37:58,204 --> 01:37:59,372 here. 3217 01:37:59,372 --> 01:38:00,406 Th is the cteria for 3218 01:38:00,406 --> 01:38:01,400 awarding of an iup. 3219 01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:01,601 Ye. Sohere 3220 01:38:01,601 --> 01:38:02,238 s there 3221 01:38:02,238 --> 01:38:03,178 s 3222 01:38:03,178 --> 01:38:03,832 basicay sixriteria. That 3223 01:38:03,832 --> 01:38:04,536 s 3224 01:38:04,536 --> 01:38:05,137 that 3225 01:38:05,137 --> 01:38:05,811 part of it. Wha was 3226 01:38:05,811 --> 01:38:08,281 actually prode in the staff 3227 01:38:08,281 --> 01:38:10,830 reportas the odoor storage 3228 01:38:10,830 --> 01:38:12,852 review criteria, as part part 3229 01:38:12,852 --> 01:38:14,520 of the ruest. So withi 3230 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,520 sically t evaluation 3231 01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:18,458 criteria forust the iup, one 3232 01:38:18,458 --> 01:38:20,727 of the sndards is thathe 3233 01:38:20,727 --> 01:38:22,327 us meets thetandards set 3234 01:38:22,327 --> 01:38:23,730 foh in the zoning regulations 3235 01:38:23,730 --> 01:38:25,264 here in govning cditional 3236 01:38:25,264 --> 01:38:27,734 us permit. So really there 3237 01:38:27,734 --> 01:38:29,636 another layer of the review 3238 01:38:29,636 --> 01:38:31,805 process tt also then gerns 3239 01:38:31,805 --> 01:38:34,340 the iup which I also then the 3240 01:38:34,340 --> 01:38:34,988 Cup review criteria as well. S 3241 01:38:34,988 --> 01:38:36,988 it 3242 01:38:37,444 --> 01:38:38,711 s basal two standards in 3243 01:38:38,711 --> 01:38:39,612 one. 3244 01:38:39,612 --> 01:38:40,713 I think. I 3245 01:38:40,713 --> 01:38:42,382 m not shaking you 3246 01:38:42,382 --> 01:38:43,610 off. Yeah. No, no I. 3247 01:38:43,610 --> 01:38:44,717 I think it 3248 01:38:44,717 --> 01:38:46,219 s because IEPs are 3249 01:38:46,219 --> 01:38:48,540 are few.Hey should be few and 3250 01:38:48,540 --> 01:38:48,564 far between. I thi it 3251 01:38:48,564 --> 01:38:50,557 s 3252 01:38:50,557 --> 01:38:52,325 because we want IEPs to mee a 3253 01:38:52,325 --> 01:38:55,261 highertandard in oer to be 3254 01:38:55,261 --> 01:38:57,661 allowed witn the cit 3255 01:39:00,660 --> 01:39:03,336 Okay. So so this an iup. How 3256 01:39:03,336 --> 01:39:04,938 does it relate to the Cup 3257 01:39:04,938 --> 01:39:05,558 crerion in five? I 3258 01:39:05,558 --> 01:39:06,286 m I 3259 01:39:06,286 --> 01:39:07,274 apologe I 3260 01:39:07,274 --> 01:39:08,742 m sor. 3261 01:39:08,742 --> 01:39:10,143 So basically aft. S you have 3262 01:39:10,143 --> 01:39:11,377 to go up t the end to the cup 3263 01:39:11,377 --> 01:39:13,377 reew criteriahich then 3264 01:39:15,381 --> 01:39:17,617 there are the are then t 3265 01:39:17,617 --> 01:39:19,653 eight criteriaitn the cup. 3266 01:39:19,653 --> 01:39:20,292 Th evaluation witnhat 3267 01:39:20,292 --> 01:39:21,200 they 3268 01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,200 basically me general 3269 01:39:23,323 --> 01:39:25,323 publealth and welfare 3270 01:39:25,458 --> 01:39:26,459 bacally stipulations as as 3271 01:39:26,459 --> 01:39:28,195 pa of the condition use 3272 01:39:28,195 --> 01:39:29,529 permit process. SEPs 3273 01:39:29,529 --> 01:39:31,397 tended basically toe 3274 01:39:31,397 --> 01:39:32,999 temporar inature. Yeah, 3275 01:39:32,999 --> 01:39:35,703 certaiy he a sghtly lower 3276 01:39:35,703 --> 01:39:36,904 threshd to meet. But with 3277 01:39:36,904 --> 01:39:38,138 at provisionhathey have 3278 01:39:38,138 --> 01:39:39,172 to be kke up to cup, 3279 01:39:39,172 --> 01:39:40,406 they wanto make surehat 3280 01:39:40,406 --> 01:39:42,810 ev o a tempo manne 3281 01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:44,244 beca you gs have seeep 3282 01:39:44,244 --> 01:39:45,446 can be oner or three years, 3283 01:39:45,446 --> 01:39:47,782 sometime a little bit longer. 3284 01:39:47,782 --> 01:39:49,782 So temrary natures 3285 01:39:50,116 --> 01:39:51,519 subjective a lit bit. So 3286 01:39:51,519 --> 01:39:53,219 basicallyhey areked upo 3287 01:39:53,219 --> 01:39:54,455 that c.He higher cteria. 3288 01:39:54,455 --> 01:39:56,550 One o them, you kw, some o 3289 01:39:56,550 --> 01:39:57,323 the standards being, you know, 3290 01:39:57,323 --> 01:39:58,324 basicallympacts toubc 3291 01:39:58,324 --> 01:40:00,324 are okay. 3292 01:40:03,300 --> 01:40:03,611 Soka 3293 01:40:03,611 --> 01:40:05,498 Just. 3294 01:40:05,498 --> 01:40:06,933 One mor. Yeah. 3295 01:40:06,933 --> 01:40:08,636 Sorry to sll be onhis, but 3296 01:40:08,636 --> 01:40:11,360 Iave more queions authe 3297 01:40:15,275 --> 01:40:18,145 mpute the. Is it tt third 3298 01:40:18,145 --> 01:40:19,345 parties smit a requestor a 3299 01:40:19,345 --> 01:40:21,745 certain typ o computation 3300 01:40:22,820 --> 01:40:25,820 mputation to in Gate? It 3301 01:40:25,252 --> 01:40:26,687 es its thing. And then tho 3302 01:40:26,687 --> 01:40:28,923 third pares get theendered 3303 01:40:28,923 --> 01:40:31,910 sult. Or I a of t 3304 01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:32,910 compe being consumed by iro 3305 01:40:32,910 --> 01:40:32,793 gate itself? 3306 01:40:32,793 --> 01:40:34,940 No, it 3307 01:40:34,940 --> 01:40:34,862 s done third 3308 01:40:34,862 --> 01:40:36,630 party. 3309 01:40:36,630 --> 01:40:39,199 Okay.O third pties mak a 3310 01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:41,435 reestor, y know, tell me 3311 01:40:41,435 --> 01:40:42,303 theest rece for a 3312 01:40:42,303 --> 01:40:42,890 bouiabaisse sce or 3313 01:40:42,890 --> 01:40:44,890 whatever. 3314 01:40:46,507 --> 01:40:48,409 At thirdarties aenants. 3315 01:40:48,409 --> 01:40:50,411 Is aenant o the pperty, 3316 01:40:50,411 --> 01:40:52,213 operes a datenter within 3317 01:40:52,213 --> 01:40:54,213 e pperty. 3318 01:40:54,415 --> 01:40:57,818 Okay, s Iron Gate has mulple 3319 01:40:57,818 --> 01:40:59,818 clienthoolds a svers 3320 01:41:02,289 --> 01:41:03,257 that render compute And d we 3321 01:41:03,257 --> 01:41:04,458 kn whether. 3322 01:41:04,458 --> 01:41:06,794 The tenan MAY bri in 3323 01:41:06,794 --> 01:41:08,362 servers? We MAY bng inhe 3324 01:41:08,362 --> 01:41:09,763 power. We mayring in some of 3325 01:41:09,763 --> 01:41:11,763 infrastructure. 3326 01:41:12,566 --> 01:41:14,966 Okay. And is itwnoho 3327 01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:16,237 tenants o Ironate? A t 3328 01:41:16,237 --> 01:41:18,237 strictly using compute 3329 01:41:19,373 --> 01:41:21,342 capacity for their own internal 3330 01:41:21,342 --> 01:41:23,611 company purs, or do s of 3331 01:41:23,611 --> 01:41:24,645 em receive reqs from the 3332 01:41:24,645 --> 01:41:26,580 general public third 3333 01:41:26,580 --> 01:41:27,448 parties, d the compu and 3334 01:41:27,448 --> 01:41:28,370 en turn over t results? 3335 01:41:28,370 --> 01:41:28,983 I can 3336 01:41:28,983 --> 01:41:30,983 speako that. 3337 01:41:31,652 --> 01:41:32,853 There anybody who could 3338 01:41:32,853 --> 01:41:33,401 I could find out. 3339 01:41:33,401 --> 01:41:35,401 I 3340 01:41:39,326 --> 01:41:41,233 d like you to please. Okay. 3341 01:41:41,233 --> 01:41:41,621 So I 3342 01:41:41,621 --> 01:41:42,763 sure have more 3343 01:41:42,763 --> 01:41:43,331 questions. I d 3344 01:41:43,331 --> 01:41:44,252 t kno i 3345 01:41:44,252 --> 01:41:44,903 that 3346 01:41:44,903 --> 01:41:45,528 going to leado 3347 01:41:45,528 --> 01:41:46,890 answers, s I 3348 01:41:46,890 --> 01:41:47,100 ll. Won 3349 01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,100 tsk 3350 01:41:49,603 --> 01:41:50,112 ny o them right now. I 3351 01:41:50,112 --> 01:41:50,704 wouldn 3352 01:41:50,704 --> 01:41:51,605 t md gettingn to at 3353 01:41:51,605 --> 01:41:53,507 least hring fromhe 3354 01:41:53,507 --> 01:41:54,475 neighborsf that wks for 3355 01:41:54,475 --> 01:41:56,577 folks, andhen we canome 3356 01:41:56,577 --> 01:41:58,613 backnd t to unpkome of 3357 01:41:58,613 --> 01:41:59,148 the slls lat on. S 3358 01:41:59,148 --> 01:41:59,997 u 3359 01:41:59,997 --> 01:42:02,249 ll be available aerwards. 3360 01:42:02,249 --> 01:42:04,649 Mike. Absutel Thank you 3361 01:42:05,619 --> 01:42:08,560 an you, thank you. Apologies 3362 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,659 for the eende qstion and 3363 01:42:10,659 --> 01:42:11,525 answer perio I tnk man of 3364 01:42:11,525 --> 01:42:14,763 u we probably I t room 3365 01:42:14,763 --> 01:42:15,763 la week at the apc, and there 3366 01:42:15,763 --> 01:42:16,282 e a lot of movg parts he. 3367 01:42:16,282 --> 01:42:17,206 I thi we 3368 01:42:17,206 --> 01:42:17,665 re we 3369 01:42:17,665 --> 01:42:18,867 re all tryin 3370 01:42:18,867 --> 01:42:21,268 to get I nailedown a lite 3371 01:42:21,268 --> 01:42:22,837 more effecvely So aga, my 3372 01:42:22,837 --> 01:42:25,237 apologies for that. Should 3373 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,839 mentionvalanche two one after 3374 01:42:28,142 --> 01:42:28,558 th fir. Sor, maybe tt 3375 01:42:28,558 --> 01:42:30,558 ll 3376 01:42:31,780 --> 01:42:32,470 chge in t nt 20 minut, 3377 01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:33,130 t. So 3378 01:42:33,130 --> 01:42:34,782 m going to on up 3379 01:42:34,782 --> 01:42:36,782 publ comments, pubc 3380 01:42:37,384 --> 01:42:38,886 commentsn the cncil meeti 3381 01:42:38,886 --> 01:42:40,956 will wkrettyuch the same 3382 01:42:40,956 --> 01:42:42,756 as I did in the apc. We ask 3383 01:42:42,756 --> 01:42:44,459 people tome up. Ifou have 3384 01:42:44,459 --> 01:42:45,127 qutions, fee free t share 3385 01:42:45,127 --> 01:42:45,815 them. W won 3386 01:42:45,815 --> 01:42:47,815 dl with 3387 01:42:48,696 --> 01:42:49,267 questions individuay. We 3388 01:42:49,267 --> 01:42:51,267 ll 3389 01:42:52,601 --> 01:42:53,901 instead keep nes of tm. 3390 01:42:53,901 --> 01:42:56,238 MISS Mler will te notes on 3391 01:42:56,238 --> 01:42:57,172 l t questionseing asked. 3392 01:42:57,172 --> 01:42:57,738 Andhen aer we 3393 01:42:57,738 --> 01:42:58,405 ve ten all 3394 01:42:58,405 --> 01:42:59,441 the commentsnd all the 3395 01:42:59,441 --> 01:43:00,138 questions, we 3396 01:43:00,138 --> 01:43:01,676 ll goack and 3397 01:43:01,676 --> 01:43:03,979 deal with theuestns one at 3398 01:43:03,979 --> 01:43:05,313 a time. T to combine them and 3399 01:43:05,313 --> 01:43:08,182 unck t areas in which ty 3400 01:43:08,182 --> 01:43:08,817 overlap. We ask tha you fee 3401 01:43:08,817 --> 01:43:10,818 free toomep and make 3402 01:43:10,818 --> 01:43:12,253 whatever comnts youo. If 3403 01:43:12,253 --> 01:43:14,289 mebody hasade the same 3404 01:43:14,289 --> 01:43:15,323 commts as y, simple I 3405 01:43:15,323 --> 01:43:17,723 age wh so-and-so would 3406 01:43:17,726 --> 01:43:18,659 suffice And we can maybe g 3407 01:43:18,659 --> 01:43:21,329 out of he I time f t 3408 01:43:21,329 --> 01:43:21,796 thir perdr the. Ove time 3409 01:43:21,796 --> 01:43:23,796 we 3410 01:43:23,898 --> 01:43:24,454 ll fdut. So with tha 3411 01:43:24,454 --> 01:43:25,934 I 3412 01:43:25,934 --> 01:43:27,803 llpen up theic. A, you 3413 01:43:27,803 --> 01:43:29,971 ow, generally speaking, four 3414 01:43:29,971 --> 01:43:32,607 minute m ifou come in at 3415 01:43:32,607 --> 01:43:35,844 two, I c MAY look for se 3416 01:43:35,844 --> 01:43:36,421 gold sta tive you.Ut 3417 01:43:36,421 --> 01:43:37,746 there 3418 01:43:37,746 --> 01:43:38,613 so sinn goinghort 3419 01:43:38,613 --> 01:43:39,118 We askhat you really d 3420 01:43:39,118 --> 01:43:39,581 t go 3421 01:43:39,581 --> 01:43:40,270 along bause we 3422 01:43:40,270 --> 01:43:40,927 goi to be 3423 01:43:40,927 --> 01:43:42,918 in he for long enoh 3424 01:43:42,918 --> 01:43:43,433 tonight,st is. So with 3425 01:43:43,433 --> 01:43:44,853 that, I 3426 01:43:44,853 --> 01:43:45,821 ll on up tic. Any 3427 01:43:45,821 --> 01:43:48,560 members of theubli who wan 3428 01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,859 to comme on the propose 3429 01:43:50,859 --> 01:43:53,940 terim u permit rarding 3430 01:43:53,940 --> 01:43:53,652 the former Unisys building? 3431 01:43:53,652 --> 01:43:55,652 I 3432 01:43:55,864 --> 01:43:56,468 ll jt shorten uphatay. 3433 01:43:56,468 --> 01:43:58,468 All rig. I 3434 01:43:59,469 --> 01:43:59,919 ll do it Oka 3435 01:43:59,919 --> 01:44:01,436 I 3436 01:44:01,436 --> 01:44:01,970 gett done. W 3437 01:44:01,970 --> 01:44:03,970 t be f 3438 01:44:06,141 --> 01:44:06,676 mineithe. 3439 01:44:06,676 --> 01:44:07,943 As long ast 3440 01:44:07,943 --> 01:44:09,943 s not eig. 3441 01:44:17,653 --> 01:44:18,561 Decracs sometim slo and 3442 01:44:18,561 --> 01:44:19,251 painful, but I am grateful for 3443 01:44:19,251 --> 01:44:20,111 . Mr.Ayor Eaganity 3444 01:44:20,111 --> 01:44:20,844 uncil members.Y name i 3445 01:44:20,844 --> 01:44:21,565 John Gtin. During the nearl 3446 01:44:21,565 --> 01:44:22,358 yea weived at061 3447 01:44:22,358 --> 01:44:23,892 Woodlark Lane,y wife a I 3448 01:44:23,892 --> 01:44:25,695 ha bee privileged to s our 3449 01:44:25,695 --> 01:44:26,695 beautil cityrow and proer 3450 01:44:26,695 --> 01:44:29,950 dor the good our 3451 01:44:29,297 --> 01:44:30,866 communy. Mos of us. Tnk 3452 01:44:30,866 --> 01:44:32,866 you, COUNCILMAN Subenaor 3453 01:44:32,869 --> 01:44:34,350 viting with my next door 3454 01:44:34,350 --> 01:44:36,400 nehbor, Peteailm, lt 3455 01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,306 Thuraynd walking with h 3456 01:44:38,306 --> 01:44:39,407 ronate Dataenter. 3457 01:44:39,407 --> 01:44:41,807 Numberfears ago. I was 3458 01:44:41,943 --> 01:44:43,943 involvedith timbeine 3459 01:44:44,613 --> 01:44:45,714 Civissociation, and we 3460 01:44:45,714 --> 01:44:47,160 fought toeep a propey on 3461 01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:48,817 the cornerfilot Kb and 3462 01:44:48,817 --> 01:44:50,719 Lonokeoads fro becoming a 3463 01:44:50,719 --> 01:44:52,220 g artmentouse, and n w 3464 01:44:52,220 --> 01:44:53,422 havehe beautif Timberle 3465 01:44:53,422 --> 01:44:54,770 Village, wch is a senior 3466 01:44:54,770 --> 01:44:55,490 community that 3467 01:44:55,490 --> 01:44:56,859 s tiving. I 3468 01:44:56,859 --> 01:45:00,960 was als on the airrt noi 3469 01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:01,429 commtee f a while aft 3470 01:45:01,429 --> 01:45:04,429 ma of us cplaid abo 3471 01:45:04,533 --> 01:45:06,235 this. The noise we h he 3472 01:45:06,235 --> 01:45:09,235 th In Gate, whie found 3473 01:45:10,339 --> 01:45:12,508 out was Iro Ge. The wl w 3474 01:45:12,508 --> 01:45:14,844 built and the secd study 3475 01:45:14,844 --> 01:45:15,945 shs acceptabl noi lels. 3476 01:45:15,945 --> 01:45:16,685 Trank, Ion 3477 01:45:16,685 --> 01:45:18,470 t knowhat 3478 01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:19,949 to belve at ts point. 3479 01:45:19,949 --> 01:45:21,949 Nest, n disreect 3480 01:45:22,180 --> 01:45:22,670 intend to anybody here today. 3481 01:45:22,670 --> 01:45:23,820 I d 3482 01:45:23,820 --> 01:45:25,721 t know exalyhat to 3483 01:45:25,721 --> 01:45:26,922 believe. I don 3484 01:45:26,922 --> 01:45:28,257 t kw ifear 3485 01:45:28,257 --> 01:45:28,824 th noise allhe time. I don 3486 01:45:28,824 --> 01:45:30,824 t 3487 01:45:33,229 --> 01:45:35,597 ink do. But anywa, iron 3488 01:45:35,597 --> 01:45:38,670 ga dat Cente like all of 3489 01:45:38,670 --> 01:45:38,729 them is a pasite. Now. 3490 01:45:38,729 --> 01:45:39,869 Ey 3491 01:45:39,869 --> 01:45:40,502 re everywhere a at oe, 3492 01:45:40,502 --> 01:45:41,304 ande 3493 01:45:41,304 --> 01:45:42,671 ve g one und 3494 01:45:42,671 --> 01:45:43,940 consuctionver here in 3495 01:45:43,940 --> 01:45:45,374 Eagan, rig next tomes I 3496 01:45:45,374 --> 01:45:47,443 Inverrove Heits. And I 3497 01:45:47,443 --> 01:45:48,845 applaudour decision t at 3498 01:45:48,845 --> 01:45:50,346 least temporaly pau new 3499 01:45:50,346 --> 01:45:52,346 delopmts pending further 3500 01:45:52,582 --> 01:45:54,160 reviewnd study. These data 3501 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,885 centers cate an additional 3502 01:45:55,885 --> 01:45:57,487 laye o constant nse and 3503 01:45:57,487 --> 01:45:59,722 vibration, wch we cizen 3504 01:45:59,722 --> 01:46:00,456 must conte wh. They 3505 01:46:00,456 --> 01:46:02,456 ot 3506 01:46:02,525 --> 01:46:04,293 on fewermanent jobs, and 3507 01:46:04,293 --> 01:46:05,495 yes,hey bring I tax dollars, 3508 01:46:05,495 --> 01:46:06,529 buthey all suckn 3509 01:46:06,529 --> 01:46:08,529 unbelievabmoun of 3510 01:46:09,765 --> 01:46:10,900 elecicity. Rea tapers. 3511 01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:12,702 Lo, tre are plenty of 3512 01:46:12,702 --> 01:46:14,437 udie I indated MISS 3513 01:46:14,437 --> 01:46:15,400 Hutmacher with a bch of sff 3514 01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:15,609 forhich I 3515 01:46:15,609 --> 01:46:16,245 m aamed becau 3516 01:46:16,245 --> 01:46:17,640 it 3517 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:18,265 sustay toouch da o 3518 01:46:18,265 --> 01:46:18,935 thistuff They 3519 01:46:18,935 --> 01:46:20,935 reoing to 3520 01:46:21,278 --> 01:46:22,211 deple our oy close system. 3521 01:46:22,211 --> 01:46:22,909 Sods good. That 3522 01:46:22,909 --> 01:46:23,543 s good. Me 3523 01:46:23,543 --> 01:46:25,248 effient? That 3524 01:46:25,248 --> 01:46:26,716 fine.Ut as 3525 01:46:26,716 --> 01:46:27,917 thei nee g up, o power 3526 01:46:27,917 --> 01:46:29,652 and water bil are goi to go 3527 01:46:29,652 --> 01:46:31,755 up.Ur property values willo 3528 01:46:31,755 --> 01:46:32,328 down So what 3529 01:46:32,328 --> 01:46:33,823 gd for 3530 01:46:33,823 --> 01:46:35,424 businesss not aays good for 3531 01:46:35,424 --> 01:46:37,427 e community. These people 3532 01:46:37,427 --> 01:46:38,690 have got nkin in t ge. 3533 01:46:38,690 --> 01:46:38,961 They don 3534 01:46:38,961 --> 01:46:39,700 tiveere.Hey 3535 01:46:39,700 --> 01:46:40,397 don 3536 01:46:40,397 --> 01:46:41,899 t send tirhildren t 3537 01:46:41,899 --> 01:46:43,132 scolere o shop her Ty 3538 01:46:43,132 --> 01:46:45,434 answer the bses and 3539 01:46:45,434 --> 01:46:47,434 shareholders. Sewhe outside 3540 01:46:47,837 --> 01:46:49,390 Minnesota. Thinkaybe 3541 01:46:49,390 --> 01:46:50,941 mewherep a cha of 3542 01:46:50,941 --> 01:46:52,941 bsidiaries, spin os, 3543 01:46:54,978 --> 01:46:56,646 ltip Ls,ron gates not 3544 01:46:56,646 --> 01:46:57,184 a gd neighbor. The 3545 01:46:57,184 --> 01:46:58,449 fired 3546 01:46:58,449 --> 01:47:00,490 up their cller iniolation 3547 01:47:00,490 --> 01:47:01,351 of theonin ordinces. N 3548 01:47:01,351 --> 01:47:01,849 they b forgiveness It 3549 01:47:01,849 --> 01:47:03,553 s 3550 01:47:03,553 --> 01:47:06,456 zone r&d.Hey sayt is. 3551 01:47:06,456 --> 01:47:08,580 Well, wteve Anyway,ll the 3552 01:47:08,580 --> 01:47:10,580 constrtion perts they 3553 01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:11,562 submit should be ceful 3554 01:47:11,562 --> 01:47:13,300 reviewed to ensure they meet 3555 01:47:13,300 --> 01:47:14,898 all ces.Verying mt be 3556 01:47:14,898 --> 01:47:15,436 enrcedtricy b the book 3557 01:47:15,436 --> 01:47:16,330 they 3558 01:47:16,330 --> 01:47:17,468 already swn. It 3559 01:47:17,468 --> 01:47:18,235 nnot be trued. I was he 3560 01:47:18,235 --> 01:47:18,868 rst a I 3561 01:47:18,868 --> 01:47:20,868 mot going to 3562 01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:24,608 move.O I implore you toet 3563 01:47:24,608 --> 01:47:27,143 do what you need to d not to 3564 01:47:27,143 --> 01:47:28,511 lethings go any furer. 3565 01:47:28,511 --> 01:47:30,511 Thank youery much. 3566 01:47:31,180 --> 01:47:33,180 Than you 3567 01:47:33,550 --> 01:47:35,550 Thanks. 3568 01:47:36,786 --> 01:47:37,369 Additional cment. W 3569 01:47:37,369 --> 01:47:39,369 ll ask 3570 01:47:39,822 --> 01:47:41,324 what we refin fromutbursts. 3571 01:47:41,324 --> 01:47:43,324 Good evening.Ayorouncil. 3572 01:47:44,161 --> 01:47:45,896 Kath Peterson Iive at77 3573 01:47:45,896 --> 01:47:48,265 Tier Wood Tra, fairly new 3574 01:47:48,265 --> 01:47:50,000 Eagan. I was ae to aend 3575 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:50,557 th planning mting lt week 3576 01:47:50,557 --> 01:47:52,535 and 3577 01:47:52,535 --> 01:47:53,138 m learning aot. I 3578 01:47:53,138 --> 01:47:55,138 m 3579 01:47:55,772 --> 01:47:57,740 here to encourage the cncil 3580 01:47:57,740 --> 01:47:59,343 toccept the 6 to 0 3581 01:47:59,343 --> 01:48:01,343 recoendaon ohe 3582 01:48:01,477 --> 01:48:04,477 Commsion to deny the intim 3583 01:48:05,615 --> 01:48:09,215 us permit. I als wante to 3584 01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,120 askfy memory o that 3585 01:48:12,689 --> 01:48:15,626 sessio last week was is 3586 01:48:15,626 --> 01:48:18,626 coect, tha t alica was 3587 01:48:19,930 --> 01:48:22,498 told tt any expen engaged 3588 01:48:22,498 --> 01:48:25,680 in offor toeal wit the 3589 01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,680 sound issue the the noise 3590 01:48:28,172 --> 01:48:29,373 pollion were t be undertake 3591 01:48:29,373 --> 01:48:31,373 at the appcant 3592 01:48:31,441 --> 01:48:31,875 s risk. Rht. 3593 01:48:31,875 --> 01:48:33,430 E cy didn 3594 01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:34,344 tell the tt 3595 01:48:34,344 --> 01:48:36,613 ey h too that, or they 3596 01:48:36,613 --> 01:48:38,182 should do tt. Ty we told, 3597 01:48:38,182 --> 01:48:39,783 asnderstand I thatt 3598 01:48:39,783 --> 01:48:41,452 woul be at theireril and 3599 01:48:41,452 --> 01:48:43,530 thatt d not necessaly 3600 01:48:43,530 --> 01:48:44,589 an that any interse 3601 01:48:44,589 --> 01:48:46,989 rmitould in fact be 3602 01:48:47,257 --> 01:48:47,849 appred. I tnkhathere 3603 01:48:47,849 --> 01:48:49,260 s 3604 01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:50,427 be a l of gd queion a 3605 01:48:50,427 --> 01:48:54,270 aner here tay to kd of 3606 01:48:55,332 --> 01:48:56,601 point out how this haseen 3607 01:48:56,601 --> 01:48:57,840 non-tradiona I gss that 3608 01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:57,453 s 3609 01:48:57,453 --> 01:48:58,470 the word we 3610 01:48:58,470 --> 01:49:00,470 llettln 3611 01:49:00,571 --> 01:49:01,271 non-traditiol. A I 3612 01:49:01,271 --> 01:49:03,271 meeply 3613 01:49:03,474 --> 01:49:03,907 concerned. There 3614 01:49:03,907 --> 01:49:05,442 s the 3615 01:49:05,442 --> 01:49:05,982 tempary iss. A then we 3616 01:49:05,982 --> 01:49:07,144 do 3617 01:49:07,144 --> 01:49:09,144 even necessarily tk 3618 01:49:10,247 --> 01:49:11,950 toght about the the pernent 3619 01:49:11,950 --> 01:49:13,852 ise, where t times the 3620 01:49:13,852 --> 01:49:16,852 nuers of cller it sous 3621 01:49:17,989 --> 01:49:20,191 li, a going to be. If the 3622 01:49:20,191 --> 01:49:22,191 applicant mov forwa. 3623 01:49:23,895 --> 01:49:26,231 Instald in a masonry 3624 01:49:26,231 --> 01:49:28,500 clos.As loong at the 3625 01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:30,900 infoatio Was a mechani 3626 01:49:31,602 --> 01:49:34,200 yard, mechanical yar right 3627 01:49:35,272 --> 01:49:35,984 anyway, thi 3628 01:49:35,984 --> 01:49:36,692 m I 3629 01:49:36,692 --> 01:49:38,692 m 3630 01:49:40,345 --> 01:49:43,414 encouraging us t say no ao 3631 01:49:43,414 --> 01:49:45,814 uphohe curnt zong which 3632 01:49:45,984 --> 01:49:47,619 is for r&d. As we 3633 01:49:47,619 --> 01:49:49,870 ve hit o 3634 01:49:49,870 --> 01:49:51,222 data cter mea aery 3635 01:49:51,222 --> 01:49:53,622 dieren thing. A disssed 3636 01:49:54,525 --> 01:49:56,127 as part of Unisys. Is tt 3637 01:49:56,127 --> 01:49:57,195 really t corct way? Anyy, 3638 01:49:57,195 --> 01:49:59,464 as part o that company 3639 01:49:59,464 --> 01:50:01,464 s 3640 01:50:02,267 --> 01:50:03,234 resech andevelment? And 3641 01:50:03,234 --> 01:50:03,974 cleay we can 3642 01:50:03,974 --> 01:50:05,974 haven 3643 01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:07,472 cessy uhenheres no 3644 01:50:07,472 --> 01:50:09,541 prary use otherhan being a 3645 01:50:09,541 --> 01:50:10,775 data cenr. I mean, a I 3646 01:50:10,775 --> 01:50:13,175 ked the analogy wever 3647 01:50:13,577 --> 01:50:15,346 somee he made abo the 3648 01:50:15,346 --> 01:50:17,746 prive home withhe cars 3649 01:50:19,818 --> 01:50:22,218 parked. Sonow youll know 3650 01:50:22,420 --> 01:50:25,256 the stuto code in the law. 3651 01:50:25,256 --> 01:50:26,791 An thenterim use pmit MAY 3652 01:50:26,791 --> 01:50:29,191 issued.T cerinly doesn 3653 01:50:29,227 --> 01:50:31,962 have to be issued. I rlly 3654 01:50:31,962 --> 01:50:34,365 ta issue with myuick rd 3655 01:50:34,365 --> 01:50:35,767 the attorney 3656 01:50:35,767 --> 01:50:37,767 sette fm 3657 01:50:39,504 --> 01:50:40,938 MAY 3, which somehow creates 3658 01:50:40,938 --> 01:50:42,806 someense of entitmentr 3659 01:50:42,806 --> 01:50:44,442 right or a vgehat they 3660 01:50:44,442 --> 01:50:45,376 ther you know, that this 3661 01:50:45,376 --> 01:50:47,776 wod be arbitra and 3662 01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,546 capricious it were died 3663 01:50:49,546 --> 01:50:51,946 and notng coue furth 3664 01:50:54,886 --> 01:50:57,388 fr the case. This is not wt 3665 01:50:57,388 --> 01:50:59,124 thiseighrhood wants,ot 3666 01:50:59,124 --> 01:50:59,612 what this nghborhood needs. 3667 01:50:59,612 --> 01:51:01,292 It 3668 01:51:01,292 --> 01:51:03,161 sot consient with the 3669 01:51:03,161 --> 01:51:05,263 an of t cit cncil It 3670 01:51:05,263 --> 01:51:07,265 abs our cmuni center and 3671 01:51:07,265 --> 01:51:10,265 ou nature trails. This would 3672 01:51:11,402 --> 01:51:11,899 ben abomination. And I, I am 3673 01:51:11,899 --> 01:51:12,670 happy tha the 3674 01:51:12,670 --> 01:51:14,670 s bee better 3675 01:51:15,407 --> 01:51:17,807 clarificion here today aut 3676 01:51:17,809 --> 01:51:20,209 the secon lay onalysis, 3677 01:51:21,146 --> 01:51:24,160 which says that t pmit, the 3678 01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,160 condionase perts can 3679 01:51:26,751 --> 01:51:29,120 ly bessuedf it finhe 3680 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,389 use at the prosed location 3681 01:51:31,389 --> 01:51:32,457 consisnt with eht sepate 3682 01:51:32,457 --> 01:51:33,925 factors, wch I wl not 3683 01:51:33,925 --> 01:51:36,528 reci bause I kw you a 3684 01:51:36,528 --> 01:51:39,310 know the fm subvisi fou 3685 01:51:39,310 --> 01:51:41,431 c. Br. Sultz hhliged 3686 01:51:41,967 --> 01:51:43,701 on only twof the eht. He 3687 01:51:43,701 --> 01:51:44,246 hitn wheer it 3688 01:51:44,246 --> 01:51:46,246 d b 3689 01:51:46,337 --> 01:51:47,405 detrimenl to o endanger 3690 01:51:47,405 --> 01:51:48,374 public heah, safy or 3691 01:51:48,374 --> 01:51:50,374 general welref the 3692 01:51:50,943 --> 01:51:53,943 neigorho or city. And then 3693 01:51:54,130 --> 01:51:55,346 the involvement and use of 3694 01:51:55,346 --> 01:51:57,746 marial that wou be 3695 01:51:59,285 --> 01:52:01,454 zardous.T cetera, e.. But 3696 01:52:01,454 --> 01:52:03,254 I think itertalyill not 3697 01:52:03,254 --> 01:52:04,790 be harniou with t general 3698 01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:06,790 d alicable spefic 3699 01:52:07,258 --> 01:52:08,426 objeives ohe cy pla and 3700 01:52:08,426 --> 01:52:09,928 e cess currently 3701 01:52:09,928 --> 01:52:10,485 esblisd. Thi I 3702 01:52:10,485 --> 01:52:12,264 t an 3703 01:52:12,264 --> 01:52:14,732 effort b this organizion to 3704 01:52:14,732 --> 01:52:17,769 come in a g a alternati 3705 01:52:17,769 --> 01:52:20,400 land use permi and just 3706 01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,400 nnot implore you eugh to 3707 01:52:23,309 --> 01:52:24,909 sayo, thank you. Okay. 3708 01:52:24,909 --> 01:52:25,845 Addional comnts plee. I 3709 01:52:25,845 --> 01:52:28,245 askhat we refra from 3710 01:52:31,784 --> 01:52:33,852 applause orutbut. If the 3711 01:52:33,852 --> 01:52:34,453 wild score goal y c plot. 3712 01:52:34,453 --> 01:52:36,453 Andhey haven 3713 01:52:36,554 --> 01:52:38,554 t. 3714 01:52:40,291 --> 01:52:41,494 Thk you,ayor andounc. 3715 01:52:41,494 --> 01:52:42,761 Just goi to help y out a 3716 01:52:42,761 --> 01:52:44,497 little bit. Iot about 30 3717 01:52:44,497 --> 01:52:46,497 yearsf industrial 3718 01:52:47,299 --> 01:52:49,401 intence. The old system, 3719 01:52:49,401 --> 01:52:51,102 d m humble opinion w it 3720 01:52:51,102 --> 01:52:52,538 s water cooled. S the 3721 01:52:52,538 --> 01:52:53,506 refrigeran gs out 3722 01:52:53,506 --> 01:52:56,408 It gs a nameeal quick. 3723 01:52:56,408 --> 01:52:58,430 Oh, Joe Krueger, t water,he 3724 01:52:58,430 --> 01:52:58,564 coolan refrigentoes o, 3725 01:52:58,564 --> 01:52:59,310 drop it 3726 01:52:59,310 --> 01:52:59,551 s 3727 01:52:59,551 --> 01:53:01,480 d. 3728 01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:03,150 And it comes bk h.Nd I 3729 01:53:03,150 --> 01:53:04,517 would kindfike your car 3730 01:53:04,517 --> 01:53:05,818 diator. There 3731 01:53:05,818 --> 01:53:06,180 s fan and 3732 01:53:06,180 --> 01:53:08,180 en it 3733 01:53:08,921 --> 01:53:09,522 ll droater across 3734 01:53:09,522 --> 01:53:11,900 e pes.Hat 3735 01:53:11,900 --> 01:53:13,250 s where t 3736 01:53:13,250 --> 01:53:14,527 however man thoand galns a 3737 01:53:14,527 --> 01:53:16,428 y gets eporated off. Tt 3738 01:53:16,428 --> 01:53:19,265 ols it bk down, cires 3739 01:53:19,265 --> 01:53:22,865 back t your compresr to me 3740 01:53:25,337 --> 01:53:26,305 it cd again,nd send it out 3741 01:53:26,305 --> 01:53:27,139 tha was yourld water 3742 01:53:27,139 --> 01:53:27,540 base, a no one 3743 01:53:27,540 --> 01:53:29,540 s got 3744 01:53:30,643 --> 01:53:31,744 refrigerant. Pbably better 3745 01:53:31,744 --> 01:53:32,111 athosere. They 3746 01:53:32,111 --> 01:53:32,912 reot up 3747 01:53:32,912 --> 01:53:33,646 the n. Tt isn 3748 01:53:33,646 --> 01:53:35,646 terious 3749 01:53:38,350 --> 01:53:38,674 machiny for 53 foot trailers. 3750 01:53:38,674 --> 01:53:39,685 It 3751 01:53:39,685 --> 01:53:42,210 s more tha ever ho 3752 01:53:42,210 --> 01:53:44,590 work o I oy had m biggest 3753 01:53:44,590 --> 01:53:46,990 portable was o onerailers 3754 01:53:47,159 --> 01:53:50,759 and 6000 horse,ut it was a 3755 01:53:51,300 --> 01:53:52,264 air comesso. So onhe on 3756 01:53:52,264 --> 01:53:52,757 th noise, when you 3757 01:53:52,757 --> 01:53:54,133 hearing 3758 01:53:54,133 --> 01:53:54,590 a different noise levels and 3759 01:53:54,590 --> 01:53:55,267 th 3760 01:53:55,267 --> 01:53:57,667 re saying three chillers 3761 01:53:57,736 --> 01:53:58,187 are rning ty run o what 3762 01:53:58,187 --> 01:54:00,187 s 3763 01:54:05,244 --> 01:54:06,979 called.Ontious load.O or 3764 01:54:06,979 --> 01:54:08,848 just a continuous runo the 3765 01:54:08,848 --> 01:54:10,382 tors not mad to tn off 3766 01:54:10,382 --> 01:54:11,951 and on. If y want to desoy 3767 01:54:11,951 --> 01:54:14,186 an electri motor turnt off 3768 01:54:14,186 --> 01:54:15,856 and on aot. That iushf 3769 01:54:15,856 --> 01:54:17,590 pera when y turnt on it 3770 01:54:17,590 --> 01:54:19,458 stts breakg down. Yr the 3771 01:54:19,458 --> 01:54:21,594 installation and t windings. 3772 01:54:21,594 --> 01:54:24,296 An you can s byeye t your 3773 01:54:24,296 --> 01:54:25,731 electricotor lot soone So 3774 01:54:25,731 --> 01:54:28,131 at the theyun as 3775 01:54:28,969 --> 01:54:29,314 contuous use mot a it 3776 01:54:29,314 --> 01:54:30,704 ll 3777 01:54:30,704 --> 01:54:31,300 shut o eventually.Ike if 3778 01:54:31,300 --> 01:54:31,498 it 3779 01:54:31,498 --> 01:54:32,710 s a the 3780 01:54:32,710 --> 01:54:32,505 ll be a timer if 3781 01:54:32,505 --> 01:54:33,305 you, ift dsn 3782 01:54:33,305 --> 01:54:35,342 t g a load 3783 01:54:35,342 --> 01:54:35,741 for 1 mines, a half hr, 3784 01:54:35,741 --> 01:54:36,609 then it 3785 01:54:36,609 --> 01:54:39,112 ll tel it t te 3786 01:54:39,112 --> 01:54:40,120 self offline That 3787 01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,120 sf they 3788 01:54:42,281 --> 01:54:43,315 will havet setp that w. 3789 01:54:43,315 --> 01:54:43,909 Bu generalhey 3790 01:54:43,909 --> 01:54:45,485 re notade 3791 01:54:45,485 --> 01:54:46,820 toome off and on.O yes you 3792 01:54:46,820 --> 01:54:47,921 cod have had teehills 3793 01:54:47,921 --> 01:54:48,410 running.Hat doesn 3794 01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:48,933 t mean 3795 01:54:48,933 --> 01:54:49,688 th 3796 01:54:49,688 --> 01:54:50,610 re under ld. If ty 3797 01:54:50,610 --> 01:54:50,483 re 3798 01:54:50,483 --> 01:54:51,223 der load ty 3799 01:54:51,223 --> 01:54:51,770 re working. And 3800 01:54:51,770 --> 01:54:52,926 if it 3801 01:54:52,926 --> 01:54:54,927 shiller they make a 3802 01:54:54,927 --> 01:54:55,465 lot me noise. Ifou 3803 01:54:55,465 --> 01:54:57,465 ve got 3804 01:54:58,330 --> 01:54:59,533 an elericotor withnd I 3805 01:54:59,533 --> 01:55:00,232 not worki, it 3806 01:55:00,232 --> 01:55:01,434 s just sitng 3807 01:55:01,434 --> 01:55:02,602 spiing.Our vacm 3808 01:55:02,602 --> 01:55:05,200 eane canake more nse 3809 01:55:07,107 --> 01:55:08,407 th tha So. And I 3810 01:55:08,407 --> 01:55:09,843 d echo 3811 01:55:09,843 --> 01:55:11,811 some of thether folks 3812 01:55:11,811 --> 01:55:13,446 ntimts aut the data 3813 01:55:13,446 --> 01:55:17,460 ceer. Tnk y f your te. 3814 01:55:18,150 --> 01:55:19,419 Adtional cmenteah. 3815 01:55:19,419 --> 01:55:21,254 Thankou,r. Mor. Andity 3816 01:55:21,254 --> 01:55:22,355 Cocil reallyppreate the 3817 01:55:22,355 --> 01:55:24,424 line of queioningonig. It 3818 01:55:24,424 --> 01:55:25,826 was very enlhteng. I would 3819 01:55:25,826 --> 01:55:26,693 say we he toay. 3820 01:55:26,693 --> 01:55:27,961 Iopet was enlighting to 3821 01:55:27,961 --> 01:55:29,620 somedy, but. 3822 01:55:29,620 --> 01:55:30,464 Still got aot of questns. 3823 01:55:30,464 --> 01:55:31,765 Ght? Yeah, I woulday you 3824 01:55:31,765 --> 01:55:32,699 have to say no uil you kw 3825 01:55:32,699 --> 01:55:34,334 what t e games. We 3826 01:55:34,334 --> 01:55:35,869 talking aemporary permit. I 3827 01:55:35,869 --> 01:55:36,371 ge thatight But entually 3828 01:55:36,371 --> 01:55:37,170 ere 3829 01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:39,570 s going toe eht 3830 01:55:39,573 --> 01:55:40,195 llersf y belie theo 3831 01:55:40,195 --> 01:55:40,773 far, what I 3832 01:55:40,773 --> 01:55:42,676 seen in two 3833 01:55:42,676 --> 01:55:43,127 sepate meetings is I can 3834 01:55:43,127 --> 01:55:44,344 t 3835 01:55:44,344 --> 01:55:44,855 tell whathe realruth is. I 3836 01:55:44,855 --> 01:55:45,389 ca 3837 01:55:45,389 --> 01:55:45,853 t tell wre you 3838 01:55:45,853 --> 01:55:46,580 re goi 3839 01:55:46,580 --> 01:55:46,889 to end up. Have no ideahat 3840 01:55:46,889 --> 01:55:47,262 they 3841 01:55:47,262 --> 01:55:49,662 reoing to do, and 3842 01:55:49,850 --> 01:55:52,385 neither do we.O does ds 3843 01:55:52,385 --> 01:55:54,385 alwinghe temporary pmit 3844 01:55:55,388 --> 01:55:56,790 anyay iratiate us to the 3845 01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:57,958 nextevelermihich w 3846 01:55:57,958 --> 01:55:58,492 ha no idea what it 3847 01:55:58,492 --> 01:55:59,526 sor y. 3848 01:55:59,526 --> 01:55:59,837 And even I they told u we 3849 01:55:59,837 --> 01:56:00,994 woul 3850 01:56:00,994 --> 01:56:01,414 t believehem. So 3851 01:56:01,414 --> 01:56:02,162 that 3852 01:56:02,162 --> 01:56:04,562 sne comment The oth 3853 01:56:04,564 --> 01:56:05,932 things, was it two yrs ago 3854 01:56:05,932 --> 01:56:07,868 weut our yea ago, weut 3855 01:56:07,868 --> 01:56:09,269 togeer the three poplar plans 3856 01:56:09,269 --> 01:56:11,269 fo theorthwestommonsrea. 3857 01:56:11,404 --> 01:56:12,772 Right. I tnk the smallt 3858 01:56:12,772 --> 01:56:14,375 plann termsf the number of 3859 01:56:14,375 --> 01:56:16,109 ne residents your nex door 3860 01:56:16,109 --> 01:56:18,109 nehborsas 250 new 3861 01:56:18,112 --> 01:56:19,813 residents, up to 1000 new 3862 01:56:19,813 --> 01:56:21,115 residents. Weeed a bger 3863 01:56:21,115 --> 01:56:21,492 room.F that happe, you 3864 01:56:21,492 --> 01:56:22,617 re 3865 01:56:22,617 --> 01:56:24,618 gonna have a l of complaints. 3866 01:56:24,618 --> 01:56:26,200 Thank you. Oh,y the way 3867 01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:27,187 liven MacArthur roadnd my 3868 01:56:27,187 --> 01:56:28,722 daughterives inhe same 3869 01:56:28,722 --> 01:56:30,525 nehborhoodn Red Ced Roa 3870 01:56:30,525 --> 01:56:31,910 n Sprigg, m wife, m Spa. 3871 01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:33,910 Thank y. 3872 01:56:37,932 --> 01:56:39,100 Thk y. Additiol comment. 3873 01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:41,100 Od evening. 3874 01:56:41,736 --> 01:56:43,870 Myame is Mariaorowi a 3875 01:56:43,870 --> 01:56:45,720 we live at three 106 Pilot Knob 3876 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:46,406 Road My famil and I hav 3877 01:56:46,406 --> 01:56:48,909 live in Eagan f about eht 3878 01:56:48,909 --> 01:56:50,711 yes,o I thi this mting 3879 01:56:50,711 --> 01:56:52,146 today was really helul. It 3880 01:56:52,146 --> 01:56:54,849 anered some qstio and I 3881 01:56:54,849 --> 01:56:56,216 think right now what Iave I 3882 01:56:56,216 --> 01:56:58,216 ybe some clafyinuestions 3883 01:56:58,452 --> 01:57:00,852 that wean address follong 3884 01:57:01,989 --> 01:57:03,758 is session. But fromhepc 3885 01:57:03,758 --> 01:57:05,660 meetg thatappenedast 3886 01:57:05,660 --> 01:57:09,860 week,t was alled to tha if 3887 01:57:10,330 --> 01:57:11,766 the iup was approved and the 3888 01:57:11,766 --> 01:57:13,468 ir gateas given, tt the 3889 01:57:13,468 --> 01:57:15,868 sixonth permit, tt tt 3890 01:57:16,137 --> 01:57:18,305 would automatically then all 3891 01:57:18,305 --> 01:57:20,700 them t srt buildgnd 3892 01:57:20,700 --> 01:57:22,700 instlatif the mhanil 3893 01:57:22,375 --> 01:57:23,644 yard whi from the rort 3894 01:57:23,644 --> 01:57:25,213 liev includesight 3895 01:57:25,213 --> 01:57:27,213 peanenthills, eht dry 3896 01:57:27,849 --> 01:57:30,170 cools and someome other 3897 01:57:30,170 --> 01:57:31,351 machiner tt the pubc wld 3898 01:57:31,351 --> 01:57:33,870 theno longe be ae to 3899 01:57:33,870 --> 01:57:33,521 comment on. And Ion 3900 01:57:33,521 --> 01:57:33,781 t I don 3901 01:57:33,781 --> 01:57:34,387 t 3902 01:57:34,387 --> 01:57:34,732 nessarily kwf there 3903 01:57:34,732 --> 01:57:36,900 s a 3904 01:57:36,900 --> 01:57:38,490 separateermit for iut it 3905 01:57:38,659 --> 01:57:40,940 would be condere operations 3906 01:57:40,940 --> 01:57:41,696 as ual.O I just wt to 3907 01:57:41,696 --> 01:57:43,564 clarify,ounow what this 3908 01:57:43,564 --> 01:57:45,564 decisiononighteall mea 3909 01:57:45,632 --> 01:57:48,336 in terms of that fureor the 3910 01:57:48,336 --> 01:57:49,703 mechicalard. Then also 3911 01:57:49,703 --> 01:57:51,539 toda we heardbout the 3912 01:57:51,539 --> 01:57:52,907 baseline mitoring. And what I 3913 01:57:52,907 --> 01:57:54,809 thout Ieard is thathe the 3914 01:57:54,809 --> 01:57:56,430 modeling tha was don really 3915 01:57:56,430 --> 01:57:58,430 kes intoccou allhat 3916 01:57:58,613 --> 01:58:00,414 ambit noise coming from Pilot 3917 01:58:00,414 --> 01:58:02,160 Knoboad airplanes, anythg 3918 01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,118 kehat. S I jus wan to 3919 01:58:04,118 --> 01:58:06,200 tternderstand how was the 3920 01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,588 actualoiserom thehillers 3921 01:58:07,588 --> 01:58:09,123 asur? And I wean get a 3922 01:58:09,123 --> 01:58:11,123 ext measurement onhat, 3923 01:58:11,392 --> 01:58:13,940 taking asidehe aient nse, 3924 01:58:13,940 --> 01:58:15,960 given that there I dinity 3925 01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:16,130 a diffent frequencyhat y 3926 01:58:16,130 --> 01:58:16,724 know, ronathrough our 3927 01:58:16,724 --> 01:58:17,498 house, we 3928 01:58:17,498 --> 01:58:18,599 re directly across 3929 01:58:18,599 --> 01:58:19,267 the strt. 3930 01:58:19,267 --> 01:58:20,635 Ve been sepin 3931 01:58:20,635 --> 01:58:22,737 in t basement for the past 3932 01:58:22,737 --> 01:58:25,737 three mons now,o defitel 3933 01:58:27,441 --> 01:58:30,645 feelt. And then se of t 3934 01:58:30,645 --> 01:58:32,547 other queions we h. So I 3935 01:58:32,547 --> 01:58:34,115 think jt some o t actions 3936 01:58:34,115 --> 01:58:36,651 to be condere I one of the 3937 01:58:36,651 --> 01:58:38,453 rerts tt was giv to you 3938 01:58:38,453 --> 01:58:40,221 was som sortfontrol system 3939 01:58:40,221 --> 01:58:41,856 ccks aalances. So I 3940 01:58:41,856 --> 01:58:42,824 just want toee clari on 3941 01:58:42,824 --> 01:58:44,926 that. Whahat would loo 3942 01:58:44,926 --> 01:58:46,327 li,nd if it wld include 3943 01:58:46,327 --> 01:58:48,130 noe studies and at wha 3944 01:58:48,130 --> 01:58:49,464 pointsn time. And how do we 3945 01:58:49,464 --> 01:58:51,466 ashe public, ensure that 3946 01:58:51,466 --> 01:58:53,935 there I aually a process in 3947 01:58:53,935 --> 01:58:55,937 placend, and tha we hav 3948 01:58:55,937 --> 01:58:58,337 availabity tome of tha 3949 01:58:59,775 --> 01:59:00,943 communicion. And thenlso 3950 01:59:00,943 --> 01:59:02,778 just want tommentust from 3951 01:59:02,778 --> 01:59:05,178 ou personal eerience, we 3952 01:59:05,380 --> 01:59:07,216 notice thathe noise is muc 3953 01:59:07,216 --> 01:59:09,350 gher o wknigs, lik 3954 01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:12,870 righ arod tt 10 P.M. T2 3955 01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:13,222 a. Range and theneekes as 3956 01:59:13,222 --> 01:59:14,823 ll,hich I belve ishen 3957 01:59:14,823 --> 01:59:16,592 somef t firstomplnts 3958 01:59:16,592 --> 01:59:17,590 from residents weressue s 3959 01:59:17,590 --> 01:59:17,892 thinkt 3960 01:59:17,892 --> 01:59:19,892 s important to 3961 01:59:20,940 --> 01:59:22,940 consider thatny sortf 3962 01:59:22,197 --> 01:59:22,696 ture process as the 3963 01:59:22,696 --> 01:59:23,200 not 3964 01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:23,760 ju storing, the 3965 01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,334 re operating 3966 01:59:25,334 --> 01:59:27,100 th chiers. So I wt to 3967 01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:29,710 clary tha that I would 3968 01:59:29,710 --> 01:59:30,405 include moniting,ou know, 3969 01:59:30,405 --> 01:59:31,273 constantly including t 3970 01:59:31,273 --> 01:59:31,907 weeken, because that 3971 01:59:31,907 --> 01:59:32,404 s whe 3972 01:59:32,404 --> 01:59:32,891 we 3973 01:59:32,891 --> 01:59:33,534 reome. We 3974 01:59:33,534 --> 01:59:33,936 renjoying o 3975 01:59:33,936 --> 01:59:35,176 hos, we 3976 01:59:35,176 --> 01:59:37,176 reardening. All 3977 01:59:38,413 --> 01:59:40,616 those tngs. And then Iould 3978 01:59:40,616 --> 01:59:41,117 say mbe last questions if 3979 01:59:41,117 --> 01:59:42,551 there 3980 01:59:42,551 --> 01:59:45,551 s a delineaon in tho 3981 01:59:46,221 --> 01:59:47,488 MPCa standards about wha how, 3982 01:59:47,488 --> 01:59:47,863 you know, constt noi tt 3983 01:59:47,863 --> 01:59:49,863 s 3984 01:59:50,292 --> 01:59:52,590 24 over sen I measure And 3985 01:59:52,590 --> 01:59:52,604 those decibel levelsersu 3986 01:59:52,604 --> 01:59:53,228 nois that 3987 01:59:53,228 --> 01:59:54,830 s o and o, 3988 01:59:54,830 --> 01:59:57,132 becaus w know tha this is 3989 01:59:57,132 --> 01:59:57,642 this I cstant. And so I 3990 01:59:57,642 --> 01:59:59,642 think tha 3991 02:00:00,402 --> 02:00:02,402 quite difrent 3992 02:00:03,338 --> 02:00:04,606 Andhen as far as shepec 3993 02:00:04,606 --> 02:00:06,208 etin thereere some 3994 02:00:06,208 --> 02:00:08,208 coents fro memrshat 3995 02:00:08,343 --> 02:00:09,812 aldedo pottialezoning 3996 02:00:09,812 --> 02:00:11,647 to an iustrl area. A I 3997 02:00:11,647 --> 02:00:13,916 wod just agreeith my fellow 3998 02:00:13,916 --> 02:00:15,417 member that w areot in 3999 02:00:15,417 --> 02:00:18,417 agreement that o area should 4000 02:00:19,855 --> 02:00:21,824 beezoned and that placing the 4001 02:00:21,824 --> 02:00:23,580 uipmentutsi versus, you 4002 02:00:23,580 --> 02:00:24,660 kn, chaingome of the 4003 02:00:24,660 --> 02:00:26,494 officepace sortf a 4004 02:00:26,494 --> 02:00:28,494 ophole arod somefhe 4005 02:00:28,831 --> 02:00:30,532 perctage required for office 4006 02:00:30,532 --> 02:00:31,934 space. Sot wld definitely 4007 02:00:31,934 --> 02:00:34,934 ju want mor information on 4008 02:00:45,130 --> 02:00:46,949 that as wel So thank you. 4009 02:00:46,949 --> 02:00:48,383 Than you, MR. Mayor. And City 4010 02:00:48,383 --> 02:00:48,845 Cocil, I appciat all your 4011 02:00:48,845 --> 02:00:49,785 hard. 4012 02:00:49,785 --> 02:00:51,153 Rk and. 4013 02:00:51,153 --> 02:00:54,153 E my questio tt were 4014 02:00:54,490 --> 02:00:57,192 raised tonight My name I Tim 4015 02:00:57,192 --> 02:00:58,961 Stead. Le at 3045 4016 02:00:58,961 --> 02:00:59,495 Timberwolf Trail I 4017 02:00:59,495 --> 02:01:01,495 veeen a 4018 02:01:04,633 --> 02:01:06,633 sidentfagan for 25 years. 4019 02:01:07,169 --> 02:01:08,937 I do appciat mhf the 4020 02:01:08,937 --> 02:01:11,337 information tt the attney 4021 02:01:11,874 --> 02:01:13,309 gave in his letr. Andven 4022 02:01:13,309 --> 02:01:15,100 he tonight, I think hes 4023 02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:17,346 really trygard to explain 4024 02:01:17,346 --> 02:01:18,313 us what w going o But 4025 02:01:18,313 --> 02:01:18,814 unfounaty, I don 4026 02:01:18,814 --> 02:01:20,814 t agree 4027 02:01:21,918 --> 02:01:24,918 with him because I can 4028 02:01:25,888 --> 02:01:26,889 undetandhis argumenhat 4029 02:01:26,889 --> 02:01:27,624 sohowhewner dn 4030 02:01:27,624 --> 02:01:29,624 tnow 4031 02:01:30,250 --> 02:01:30,344 that aermiould be neede 4032 02:01:30,344 --> 02:01:30,653 That 4033 02:01:30,653 --> 02:01:31,827 shat 4034 02:01:31,827 --> 02:01:33,950 ve been heang 4035 02:01:33,950 --> 02:01:36,950 st week. And now ain 4036 02:01:37,734 --> 02:01:38,967 toght jus week agoe 4037 02:01:38,967 --> 02:01:40,967 had aery unfortunate 4038 02:01:42,304 --> 02:01:44,704 expeencen our house o 4039 02:01:45,241 --> 02:01:47,242 war softer bw upnd tt 4040 02:01:47,242 --> 02:01:49,945 was a really qte a chaenge 4041 02:01:49,945 --> 02:01:51,948 i had to get plumber and the 4042 02:01:51,948 --> 02:01:54,316 umber was vy qck to get a 4043 02:01:54,316 --> 02:01:57,253 building or a pert from the 4044 02:01:57,253 --> 02:01:59,254 ci, a I paidhe $75or 4045 02:01:59,254 --> 02:02:01,230 that permi It wasll well 4046 02:02:01,230 --> 02:02:01,357 and good. And I 4047 02:02:01,357 --> 02:02:02,826 ll tl y 4048 02:02:02,826 --> 02:02:04,727 what, was s thankful for 4049 02:02:04,727 --> 02:02:08,327 that inspector w came t our 4050 02:02:08,630 --> 02:02:11,166 hoe right away and glad 4051 02:02:11,166 --> 02:02:12,869 beuse I knew tn I thoht 4052 02:02:12,869 --> 02:02:15,171 e plumber was doi a great 4053 02:02:15,171 --> 02:02:16,872 job. Ande did. But it ge me 4054 02:02:16,872 --> 02:02:19,272 e assurance thathis wasll 4055 02:02:21,177 --> 02:02:21,578 doneorrectly. Now, tha 4056 02:02:21,578 --> 02:02:23,578 a 4057 02:02:24,547 --> 02:02:26,947 mple thing At ourrevious 4058 02:02:27,116 --> 02:02:29,419 houseown a bea path tra, 4059 02:02:29,419 --> 02:02:32,419 hado replace the furnace a 4060 02:02:33,389 --> 02:02:35,257 the ac unit outside, and I h 4061 02:02:35,257 --> 02:02:36,493 to pay pmits f that. I was 4062 02:02:36,493 --> 02:02:36,802 just understd that tha 4063 02:02:36,802 --> 02:02:38,795 s 4064 02:02:38,795 --> 02:02:39,294 methg we he to do. 4065 02:02:39,294 --> 02:02:40,863 Ythinghat 4066 02:02:40,863 --> 02:02:42,980 s inse or 4067 02:02:42,980 --> 02:02:43,533 outside of our house. We have 4068 02:02:43,533 --> 02:02:45,933 to go thrgh theity 4069 02:02:46,468 --> 02:02:46,870 regutions and codes. S what 4070 02:02:46,870 --> 02:02:48,104 I 4071 02:02:48,104 --> 02:02:49,873 m tryin t sayere is tha 4072 02:02:49,873 --> 02:02:51,774 Iave concern about the lk 4073 02:02:51,774 --> 02:02:52,709 ofransrency. 4074 02:02:52,709 --> 02:02:54,709 Mot reall 4075 02:02:55,444 --> 02:02:56,613 re I agreeith the oer 4076 02:02:56,613 --> 02:02:59,130 peophat have sken he 4077 02:02:59,616 --> 02:03:01,616 tonighonig, thathis 4078 02:03:02,180 --> 02:03:03,219 confusion that w expienc 4079 02:03:03,219 --> 02:03:04,419 least in our neiborhd 4080 02:03:04,419 --> 02:03:06,419 d the srounng 4081 02:03:07,624 --> 02:03:09,580 neighborhoods wha els is 4082 02:03:09,580 --> 02:03:09,389 ing to happe and what 4083 02:03:09,389 --> 02:03:11,389 s 4084 02:03:11,594 --> 02:03:14,264 gog to happen to our property 4085 02:03:14,264 --> 02:03:14,677 vaes in our nghboood? Now 4086 02:03:14,677 --> 02:03:16,132 we 4087 02:03:16,132 --> 02:03:18,532 veot the safety concerns 4088 02:03:19,836 --> 02:03:21,104 with nse migatn and all 4089 02:03:21,104 --> 02:03:24,104 that.Nd wou really hop 4090 02:03:24,741 --> 02:03:26,543 th I this business conties 4091 02:03:26,543 --> 02:03:28,144 dhey do install eig more 4092 02:03:28,144 --> 02:03:29,579 coolers andhey have a big 4093 02:03:29,579 --> 02:03:31,815 wallroun it, tha that 4094 02:03:31,815 --> 02:03:33,550 going to sol the issueut I 4095 02:03:33,550 --> 02:03:36,152 wonder I there hav been oth 4096 02:03:36,152 --> 02:03:37,987 udie that hav been de 4097 02:03:37,987 --> 02:03:40,987 where tho kind o situaons 4098 02:03:41,224 --> 02:03:41,591 have ested where they 4099 02:03:41,591 --> 02:03:43,591 ve put 4100 02:03:45,495 --> 02:03:47,197 in a wal with that many 4101 02:03:47,197 --> 02:03:49,597 cools, doe it solvehe 4102 02:03:49,732 --> 02:03:50,835 issu for noise? I mean, that 4103 02:03:50,835 --> 02:03:53,336 should be a splehing to 4104 02:03:53,336 --> 02:03:54,972 diover somehow. And I wld I 4105 02:03:54,972 --> 02:03:57,730 would hope tt theompa 4106 02:03:57,730 --> 02:03:58,141 wouldome acrosnd help 4107 02:03:58,141 --> 02:03:59,844 produc thatype of 4108 02:03:59,844 --> 02:04:00,743 information. S tt 4109 02:04:00,743 --> 02:04:02,579 s jt my 4110 02:04:02,579 --> 02:04:04,180 $02 on it, really.Hank you 4111 02:04:04,180 --> 02:04:06,749 for that. A Io agr with 4112 02:04:06,749 --> 02:04:09,587 the others about not giving 4113 02:04:09,587 --> 02:04:11,987 th a pmit. Thankou. 4114 02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:18,920 Ank you. 4115 02:04:18,940 --> 02:04:20,196 Od evening mayor. M name is 4116 02:04:20,196 --> 02:04:21,932 ug Dexter. I livet060 4117 02:04:21,932 --> 02:04:24,902 Woodlark Lane, rht across the 4118 02:04:24,902 --> 02:04:27,302 strerom MR. Gustin there. 4119 02:04:27,505 --> 02:04:29,973 So my bacard is pitching 4120 02:04:29,973 --> 02:04:32,373 wedgeway fro the chillers. 4121 02:04:32,675 --> 02:04:33,644 An Igree with erythg my 4122 02:04:33,644 --> 02:04:34,878 neighbor have. 4123 02:04:34,878 --> 02:04:35,913 Pitcng wedge I a varble 4124 02:04:35,913 --> 02:04:37,913 meurement. Younow. 4125 02:04:37,947 --> 02:04:40,947 And a kckedown into t 4126 02:04:42,286 --> 02:04:44,220 wind Lot of great pois wer 4127 02:04:44,220 --> 02:04:45,189 made. I, agreeith all of 4128 02:04:45,189 --> 02:04:47,189 that. And it 4129 02:04:47,690 --> 02:04:49,426 sard to loo at 4130 02:04:49,426 --> 02:04:50,940 the studies and and trust 4131 02:04:50,940 --> 02:04:50,575 them at a. Ihink they 4132 02:04:50,575 --> 02:04:52,329 re 4133 02:04:52,329 --> 02:04:54,131 questionable at best.O I 4134 02:04:54,131 --> 02:04:55,966 would ue the to bore 4135 02:04:55,966 --> 02:04:58,868 udies a Butore than tt, 4136 02:04:58,868 --> 02:05:00,770 plea just s n to this and 4137 02:05:00,770 --> 02:05:01,155 do n approve this. O pnt 4138 02:05:01,155 --> 02:05:01,672 I 4139 02:05:01,672 --> 02:05:02,706 d le to rai, and i 4140 02:05:02,706 --> 02:05:03,300 keep thisrief tha hn 4141 02:05:03,300 --> 02:05:04,775 t 4142 02:05:04,775 --> 02:05:06,410 en brought up yet is t 4143 02:05:06,410 --> 02:05:08,546 poteial impact of this l 4144 02:05:08,546 --> 02:05:09,412 fruenc nse on cldre 4145 02:05:09,412 --> 02:05:11,214 There are aot of young 4146 02:05:11,214 --> 02:05:11,671 familiesnhe neighborhoo 4147 02:05:11,671 --> 02:05:12,650 The 4148 02:05:12,650 --> 02:05:15,152 s a schoo pilot Knob 4149 02:05:15,152 --> 02:05:17,152 Elementary, rht aosshe 4150 02:05:17,188 --> 02:05:20,124 marsh fm from tse chills. 4151 02:05:20,124 --> 02:05:20,479 Andhere are long tm impac 4152 02:05:20,479 --> 02:05:21,225 onhildren 4153 02:05:21,225 --> 02:05:23,270 searings fro 4154 02:05:23,270 --> 02:05:25,329 th perstent l fquen 4155 02:05:25,329 --> 02:05:27,640 noise. Joh Hkins did a 4156 02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:28,532 sty on ts, a it olines 4157 02:05:28,532 --> 02:05:31,368 the negativ long tm impacts 4158 02:05:31,368 --> 02:05:33,336 th these l freency, 4159 02:05:33,336 --> 02:05:34,939 persistent nses from mhine 4160 02:05:34,939 --> 02:05:37,341 su as thesehills c hav 4161 02:05:37,341 --> 02:05:39,741 onhildren.O withhat said, 4162 02:05:39,743 --> 02:05:42,143 Irge theounc t deny 4163 02:05:44,482 --> 02:05:46,882 th. Thieque. So tnk 4164 02:05:51,690 --> 02:05:53,900 u vy much. 4165 02:05:53,900 --> 02:05:55,292 Od ening. My nes Bill 4166 02:05:55,292 --> 02:05:55,703 Jacko. I live iagan. I don 4167 02:05:55,703 --> 02:05:57,703 t 4168 02:05:58,262 --> 02:05:59,463 live adjacentohis, t this 4169 02:05:59,463 --> 02:06:01,365 facility, but I have an 4170 02:06:01,365 --> 02:06:03,365 interestnhe proliferaon 4171 02:06:03,767 --> 02:06:06,670 of data centers arod the 4172 02:06:06,670 --> 02:06:08,540 cotry. Anyhow, fir of all, 4173 02:06:08,540 --> 02:06:10,410 thank y, MAY, for the 4174 02:06:10,410 --> 02:06:11,342 rigous queion. I thinkhat 4175 02:06:11,342 --> 02:06:13,110 wasreat I reallppreciate 4176 02:06:13,110 --> 02:06:16,611 that Several things I wt to 4177 02:06:17,182 --> 02:06:18,816 y one believe that the 4178 02:06:18,816 --> 02:06:20,718 with the conptf data center, 4179 02:06:20,718 --> 02:06:22,200 when back I987as totally 4180 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:23,188 different than h it is 4181 02:06:23,188 --> 02:06:23,821 perceid today, the 4182 02:06:23,821 --> 02:06:25,821 so way 4183 02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:27,992 u can say that how aata 4184 02:06:27,992 --> 02:06:29,928 cent w use back then. You 4185 02:06:29,928 --> 02:06:31,662 know, 40 years a orhater 4186 02:06:31,662 --> 02:06:32,898 iss inny wayonsistent 4187 02:06:32,898 --> 02:06:35,332 withhat theirlan is for the 4188 02:06:35,332 --> 02:06:37,732 us ofhat facility today. 4189 02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:38,527 mber two in vw ofow 4190 02:06:38,527 --> 02:06:39,503 they 4191 02:06:39,503 --> 02:06:41,605 ve aeady kind of bken 4192 02:06:41,605 --> 02:06:44,408 the lawn the in inslling 4193 02:06:44,408 --> 02:06:45,843 those tporahillers and 4194 02:06:45,843 --> 02:06:47,611 not havg a pn for wt the 4195 02:06:47,611 --> 02:06:48,647 tent t do with that. T 4196 02:06:48,647 --> 02:06:50,647 ultimatelan for that 4197 02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:52,500 cility. It sms like ts I 4198 02:06:52,500 --> 02:06:53,617 is being de aroundhe 4199 02:06:53,617 --> 02:06:54,752 countr where you kinf break 4200 02:06:54,752 --> 02:06:56,870 things fst andsk for 4201 02:06:56,870 --> 02:06:57,788 forgivenes o ask for 4202 02:06:57,788 --> 02:06:58,288 forgenes ler. Ielie 4203 02:06:58,288 --> 02:06:59,224 it 4204 02:06:59,224 --> 02:07:01,426 s a baday to d things. 4205 02:07:01,426 --> 02:07:03,962 You shod in, first of all go 4206 02:07:03,962 --> 02:07:05,964 inhere with a dinite plan, 4207 02:07:05,964 --> 02:07:07,365 get appval for that pn, a 4208 02:07:07,365 --> 02:07:10,365 then proceed wit an appved 4209 02:07:10,469 --> 02:07:12,102 an. And justastl I 4210 02:07:12,102 --> 02:07:14,102 believhat ts their 4211 02:07:15,500 --> 02:07:17,500 propedses ionsient 4212 02:07:17,750 --> 02:07:20,675 with both the landse pla for 4213 02:07:21,980 --> 02:07:24,249 the area and als for the data 4214 02:07:24,249 --> 02:07:26,649 center restrictis tt we 4215 02:07:27,986 --> 02:07:30,880 ha in thi in ts city. 4216 02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:32,880 Thank you. 4217 02:07:39,197 --> 02:07:41,990 Additial comments. 4218 02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:43,101 My ne is Jun a this isy 4219 02:07:43,101 --> 02:07:43,869 sister alm w 4220 02:07:43,869 --> 02:07:45,869 liv in 4221 02:07:46,705 --> 02:07:49,774 Ean for s years. We le at 4222 02:07:49,774 --> 02:07:52,774 3060oon Lane, wch is really 4223 02:07:53,445 --> 02:07:53,859 cle t t subject site. 4224 02:07:53,859 --> 02:07:54,980 We 4225 02:07:54,980 --> 02:07:57,820 re worried aut the conrt 4226 02:07:57,820 --> 02:08:00,682 sod because eve a lik the 4227 02:08:00,819 --> 02:08:03,121 acptable levels of2 to 4228 02:08:03,121 --> 02:08:05,121 51db. 4229 02:08:05,423 --> 02:08:07,492 Can aectleep and stress 4230 02:08:07,492 --> 02:08:08,527 vels Whe you eeriee 4231 02:08:08,527 --> 02:08:09,327 cotantly, it dsn 4232 02:08:09,327 --> 02:08:11,327 t seem 4233 02:08:12,300 --> 02:08:14,132 right to havet closeo hom 4234 02:08:14,132 --> 02:08:16,132 and the schl. 4235 02:08:16,301 --> 02:08:19,301 So w wouldrge yuys to 4236 02:08:19,505 --> 02:08:20,305 deine this ruest Thank 4237 02:08:20,305 --> 02:08:22,305 yo 4238 02:08:22,307 --> 02:08:24,307 Thk you. 4239 02:08:35,554 --> 02:08:36,190 Adtional comnts. 4240 02:08:36,190 --> 02:08:36,588 It 4241 02:08:36,588 --> 02:08:39,558 s goingo b hard to bea 4242 02:08:39,558 --> 02:08:41,393 thos two for aold star. My 4243 02:08:41,393 --> 02:08:43,896 name is anattis and I live a 4244 02:08:43,896 --> 02:08:45,464 3083 Timberwolf Trail, and I 4245 02:08:45,464 --> 02:08:46,650 belie that our home,ur 4246 02:08:46,650 --> 02:08:46,721 wnho, we 4247 02:08:46,721 --> 02:08:47,766 re part of t 4248 02:08:47,766 --> 02:08:49,101 Timberwolfillage townhome 4249 02:08:49,101 --> 02:08:50,603 communy. Believe tt our 4250 02:08:50,603 --> 02:08:52,603 partularownhes les 4251 02:08:53,371 --> 02:08:54,940 than00ft fm those cller 4252 02:08:54,940 --> 02:08:57,509 And a question haves, is 4253 02:08:57,509 --> 02:08:59,245 that anpproiate distance? 4254 02:08:59,245 --> 02:09:00,746 That seemsretty cse to m 4255 02:09:00,746 --> 02:09:02,848 and we have the add pleure 4256 02:09:02,848 --> 02:09:04,484 ofooking athem o of all 4257 02:09:04,484 --> 02:09:05,450 of our windows I 4258 02:09:05,450 --> 02:09:06,885 m goingo be 4259 02:09:06,885 --> 02:09:08,154 ve bef. I agree wit many 4260 02:09:08,154 --> 02:09:10,890 of the commes. I appciate 4261 02:09:10,890 --> 02:09:11,257 all ofhe extra information. I 4262 02:09:11,257 --> 02:09:12,291 too am lrnin an incdible 4263 02:09:12,291 --> 02:09:12,891 amount of infmatibout 4264 02:09:12,891 --> 02:09:13,270 ings reallyidn 4265 02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:15,270 t want t 4266 02:09:18,331 --> 02:09:20,967 know, but toour cret,agan 4267 02:09:20,967 --> 02:09:22,300 got aot of media attention 4268 02:09:22,300 --> 02:09:24,469 forutti a pau onata 4269 02:09:24,469 --> 02:09:25,937 nter expansions, going from 4270 02:09:25,937 --> 02:09:26,705 four chiller to eht chiller 4271 02:09:26,705 --> 02:09:27,939 whenhey already hhat 4272 02:09:27,939 --> 02:09:30,339 anne Sous le an 4273 02:09:31,110 --> 02:09:33,178 expaion t me. Hopehat 4274 02:09:33,178 --> 02:09:35,578 u decline ando notppro 4275 02:09:36,682 --> 02:09:38,682 thr reque. Thanks. 4276 02:09:42,210 --> 02:09:43,790 Adtion comments. 4277 02:09:43,790 --> 02:09:44,723 Good eveng. Tha you for 4278 02:09:44,723 --> 02:09:46,250 being he, and thank you for 4279 02:09:46,250 --> 02:09:48,126 steng. And thank y f 4280 02:09:48,126 --> 02:09:49,729 e lef questioning. I was 4281 02:09:49,729 --> 02:09:51,230 at the council ohe planning 4282 02:09:51,230 --> 02:09:52,131 meeting las week,nd between 4283 02:09:52,131 --> 02:09:52,702 last weekndhis week, I 4284 02:09:52,702 --> 02:09:53,331 ve 4285 02:09:53,331 --> 02:09:53,966 leard aot. I 4286 02:09:53,966 --> 02:09:55,168 ll goack to 4287 02:09:55,168 --> 02:09:57,303 my ne. M ne isegan 4288 02:09:57,303 --> 02:09:59,337 McAnews. Those are som of my 4289 02:09:59,337 --> 02:10:02,337 babysitters back there. I live 4290 02:10:03,709 --> 02:10:05,144 at06 on Loonane. I am not 4291 02:10:05,144 --> 02:10:05,945 an attorney. I 4292 02:10:05,945 --> 02:10:06,345 m n a zonin 4293 02:10:06,345 --> 02:10:07,130 pert I 4294 02:10:07,130 --> 02:10:08,948 veearn so muc 4295 02:10:08,948 --> 02:10:10,490 from Mik I thankedim aer 4296 02:10:10,490 --> 02:10:10,850 last Thursy becau I was 4297 02:10:10,850 --> 02:10:13,250 ally blownway with the 4298 02:10:13,252 --> 02:10:14,821 presentation. B I doake a 4299 02:10:14,821 --> 02:10:15,955 common sen approach toost 4300 02:10:15,955 --> 02:10:16,371 thgs inife, and that 4301 02:10:16,371 --> 02:10:16,923 s wha 4302 02:10:16,923 --> 02:10:17,657 I 4303 02:10:17,657 --> 02:10:18,128 m aing youo doonig. 4304 02:10:18,128 --> 02:10:19,659 D I 4305 02:10:19,659 --> 02:10:22,659 m asking you t use 4306 02:10:24,363 --> 02:10:25,564 mmon sse asou vote. A 4307 02:10:25,564 --> 02:10:27,967 uple of things that stand o 4308 02:10:27,967 --> 02:10:28,934 me. You firstine of 4309 02:10:28,934 --> 02:10:31,334 estiing, MAY, I thought, 4310 02:10:31,370 --> 02:10:32,705 was spot on. When y make a 4311 02:10:32,705 --> 02:10:33,973 investment thisarge I wld 4312 02:10:33,973 --> 02:10:35,208 image theery firsthing 4313 02:10:35,208 --> 02:10:36,742 at y would looknto is the 4314 02:10:36,742 --> 02:10:38,770 zoni for theroperty. And as 4315 02:10:38,770 --> 02:10:40,460 otrsave alluded to,ata 4316 02:10:40,460 --> 02:10:42,815 centers in 17 are n what 4317 02:10:42,815 --> 02:10:43,950 da centersreoday MR. 4318 02:10:43,950 --> 02:10:46,285 Bakk, you ao asked se 4319 02:10:46,285 --> 02:10:48,454 grt qstions and got se 4320 02:10:48,454 --> 02:10:50,854 informion from t applicant 4321 02:10:50,857 --> 02:10:53,660 on the type of chiers. Do 4322 02:10:53,660 --> 02:10:56,950 wa to belear las wee we 4323 02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:57,263 lened tha t te ofermi 4324 02:10:57,263 --> 02:10:57,897 chillers tha are being alied 4325 02:10:57,897 --> 02:10:59,266 fo theon 4326 02:10:59,266 --> 02:10:59,706 t use wat, 4327 02:10:59,706 --> 02:11:00,566 th 4328 02:11:00,566 --> 02:11:02,566 re not tatersing 4329 02:11:02,869 --> 02:11:03,603 ones, but the do use lik an 4330 02:11:03,603 --> 02:11:04,370 inedible aunt of 4331 02:11:04,370 --> 02:11:04,905 ectrity. There 4332 02:11:04,905 --> 02:11:06,506 s tde 4333 02:11:06,506 --> 02:11:08,107 off with data cterooli 4334 02:11:08,107 --> 02:11:09,509 systems.Ou either the use 4335 02:11:09,509 --> 02:11:10,610 use a ton ofater or a ton o 4336 02:11:10,610 --> 02:11:10,868 electrity. So thenes that 4337 02:11:10,868 --> 02:11:12,868 they 4338 02:11:12,979 --> 02:11:15,181 veppli forse a ton 4339 02:11:15,181 --> 02:11:16,782 of electricity I think the 4340 02:11:16,782 --> 02:11:17,985 wonho justpoke before me 4341 02:11:17,985 --> 02:11:19,819 al took cmonsense 4342 02:11:19,819 --> 02:11:20,129 apoach to math, which isf 4343 02:11:20,129 --> 02:11:22,129 we 4344 02:11:22,622 --> 02:11:24,570 ret 4 ofccesries now 4345 02:11:24,570 --> 02:11:27,570 with the da center,ith 4346 02:11:27,427 --> 02:11:29,495 thre tin flatbed temrary 4347 02:11:29,495 --> 02:11:32,310 chillers, I imagi that eight 4348 02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:33,266 seems le aost double that. 4349 02:11:33,266 --> 02:11:33,801 Iss also alignedith 4350 02:11:33,801 --> 02:11:34,902 marking. 4351 02:11:34,902 --> 02:11:36,135 M a milleial, s 4352 02:11:36,135 --> 02:11:37,171 ofourse Iust got on the 4353 02:11:37,171 --> 02:11:39,138 internet a looked up 4354 02:11:39,138 --> 02:11:40,773 everhing I could on Iro Gate, 4355 02:11:40,773 --> 02:11:42,108 and y can find rendering o 4356 02:11:42,108 --> 02:11:42,445 theropodataente It 4357 02:11:42,445 --> 02:11:44,311 s 4358 02:11:44,311 --> 02:11:46,547 out there Lks lik a nn 4359 02:11:46,547 --> 02:11:48,947 blue spaship and I 4360 02:11:49,449 --> 02:11:51,584 wrapped in aarbe wire fence. 4361 02:11:51,584 --> 02:11:51,851 Very welming, I tnk. View 4362 02:11:51,851 --> 02:11:52,786 whenou 4363 02:11:52,786 --> 02:11:55,550 re driving dow Pilot 4364 02:11:55,550 --> 02:11:55,492 Knob io oonderful city. 4365 02:11:55,492 --> 02:11:57,457 That 4366 02:11:57,457 --> 02:11:59,425 s sarstic comment. 4367 02:11:59,425 --> 02:12:00,360 There. 4368 02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:02,563 Thanks for poiing itut. 4369 02:12:02,563 --> 02:12:02,979 Yes,es, yesor tho that 4370 02:12:02,979 --> 02:12:04,431 don 4371 02:12:04,431 --> 02:12:05,866 t know me, ao o the 4372 02:12:05,866 --> 02:12:06,899 maetin materials, I is 4373 02:12:06,899 --> 02:12:07,313 clearly stated it 4374 02:12:07,313 --> 02:12:08,869 a 4375 02:12:08,869 --> 02:12:09,970 co-locion cter. S as I 4376 02:12:09,970 --> 02:12:12,370 arnbout data centers,he 4377 02:12:12,406 --> 02:12:15,174 colo center is whe they lse 4378 02:12:15,174 --> 02:12:17,376 itut t various tenan a 4379 02:12:17,376 --> 02:12:21,576 it is mketed up to a capacity 4380 02:12:21,782 --> 02:12:25,686 of 30mw.O n at nin at 4381 02:12:25,686 --> 02:12:27,887 46%, the Unisys se was at 4382 02:12:27,887 --> 02:12:28,988 ne megatts. Mik shad 4383 02:12:28,988 --> 02:12:30,424 some gre information about 4384 02:12:30,424 --> 02:12:32,593 other Eagan dataente ses 4385 02:12:32,593 --> 02:12:34,695 thatre a well under ten. I 4386 02:12:34,695 --> 02:12:37,695 lieve ne ofhose are zoned 4387 02:12:38,532 --> 02:12:40,666 for r. Commo sensepproach. 4388 02:12:40,666 --> 02:12:41,400 This is zon for r.T 4389 02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:42,369 s 4390 02:12:42,369 --> 02:12:44,769 surrnded by our beautiful 4391 02:12:45,104 --> 02:12:46,373 park, beautiful greenpace. 4392 02:12:46,373 --> 02:12:48,575 The bluff is one o my favorite 4393 02:12:48,575 --> 02:12:50,100 placeso walk. I walk pt the 4394 02:12:50,100 --> 02:12:52,120 si and in thi nghborhood 4395 02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:53,247 androunowno theohe 4396 02:12:53,247 --> 02:12:54,214 communy center, t the 4397 02:12:54,214 --> 02:12:56,614 playound t the farme 4398 02:12:57,651 --> 02:13:00,510 rket Preyuch every day. 4399 02:13:00,821 --> 02:13:03,123 And lt my tra of tught 4400 02:13:03,123 --> 02:13:05,123 There I 4401 02:13:05,325 --> 02:13:07,725 m asking you tose 4402 02:13:09,129 --> 02:13:10,731 mmon sense, lookit them 4403 02:13:10,731 --> 02:13:11,899 as a nghbond how ty 4404 02:13:11,899 --> 02:13:12,313 enteredhe nghborhood. 4405 02:13:12,313 --> 02:13:13,433 They 4406 02:13:13,433 --> 02:13:15,102 re n enting withny 4407 02:13:15,102 --> 02:13:17,502 rt of tstwohy or 4408 02:13:18,739 --> 02:13:20,641 transparent behavior. W are a 4409 02:13:20,641 --> 02:13:22,750 really tig knitommutyn 4410 02:13:22,750 --> 02:13:23,711 the neighborhoo behd. I kno 4411 02:13:23,711 --> 02:13:26,111 theimbe wood Fol Villa 4412 02:13:27,347 --> 02:13:28,983 fos are as well. I have no 4413 02:13:28,983 --> 02:13:29,950 nfidce thathis woulde a 4414 02:13:29,950 --> 02:13:31,652 goodddition to our 4415 02:13:31,652 --> 02:13:33,654 neighborhood and to o 4416 02:13:33,654 --> 02:13:35,789 communy. It would n add 4417 02:13:35,789 --> 02:13:38,189 jobs, itould add nsend 4418 02:13:38,492 --> 02:13:38,784 ligh pollution on scalehat 4419 02:13:38,784 --> 02:13:40,784 I d 4420 02:13:40,994 --> 02:13:42,596 t think any os want. 4421 02:13:42,596 --> 02:13:43,864 Near our beautiful park, near 4422 02:13:43,864 --> 02:13:45,332 ourommunity cter,ear our 4423 02:13:45,332 --> 02:13:46,733 irgrounds, and certainly not 4424 02:13:46,733 --> 02:13:48,669 ne o homes, certain not 4425 02:13:48,669 --> 02:13:50,103 near a schl. And I mht a 4426 02:13:50,103 --> 02:13:51,720 that the Del site iseing 4427 02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:52,874 pland for, I bieve, 4428 02:13:52,874 --> 02:13:54,575 fordable hsing, accsible 4429 02:13:54,575 --> 02:13:55,310 housinixed use development. 4430 02:13:55,310 --> 02:13:55,877 Thi it 4431 02:13:55,877 --> 02:13:58,580 s would b a very 4432 02:13:58,580 --> 02:14:00,782 d lookor the city t have 4433 02:14:00,782 --> 02:14:02,182 fordle houng devopment 4434 02:14:02,182 --> 02:14:04,185 offered in the shadow, 4435 02:14:04,185 --> 02:14:06,553 teray, o a 30 mawatt 4436 02:14:06,553 --> 02:14:08,789 ta center.Hank yor 4437 02:14:08,789 --> 02:14:10,457 heing me out a aga, I 4438 02:14:10,457 --> 02:14:11,693 thank you a for yr time and 4439 02:14:11,693 --> 02:14:13,940 your exptise 4440 02:14:13,940 --> 02:14:15,940 Thankou. 4441 02:14:27,342 --> 02:14:29,342 Ditional cment. 4442 02:14:30,644 --> 02:14:32,247 Tom Lopez le her I Eagan. I 4443 02:14:32,247 --> 02:14:35,247 woul like to proseo the 4444 02:14:35,382 --> 02:14:37,585 counl that the actuallalk 4445 02:14:37,585 --> 02:14:39,620 th neiborhood andeel the 4446 02:14:39,620 --> 02:14:41,488 pain tha thesendivuals are 4447 02:14:41,488 --> 02:14:42,589 having, that that 4448 02:14:42,589 --> 02:14:44,589 s going 24 4449 02:14:46,194 --> 02:14:49,794 hos a d and not alling 4450 02:14:49,931 --> 02:14:50,526 th to u their bkyar. 4451 02:14:50,526 --> 02:14:51,598 That 4452 02:14:51,598 --> 02:14:52,600 s their ctle. Tt 4453 02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:53,467 s 4454 02:14:53,467 --> 02:14:54,560 their home. Now it 4455 02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:56,560 bee 4456 02:14:56,704 --> 02:14:58,840 vade byoise. But ang 4457 02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:01,308 wi that,ust lik with the 4458 02:15:01,308 --> 02:15:02,150 Airportoise Comssion, 4459 02:15:02,150 --> 02:15:03,344 they 4460 02:15:03,344 --> 02:15:05,344 re phingor quieter 4461 02:15:05,613 --> 02:15:07,515 airplas a therere quier 4462 02:15:07,515 --> 02:15:09,617 airplanes. And would kw 4463 02:15:09,617 --> 02:15:11,519 th therehoul be qeter 4464 02:15:11,519 --> 02:15:13,154 chillers. Don 4465 02:15:13,154 --> 02:15:13,888 t see w 4466 02:15:13,888 --> 02:15:15,230 meone isn 4467 02:15:15,230 --> 02:15:17,230 working and 4468 02:15:19,627 --> 02:15:20,361 loing into quier equipment 4469 02:15:20,361 --> 02:15:22,361 So there 4470 02:15:23,431 --> 02:15:25,831 some se give a 4471 02:15:26,234 --> 02:15:30,434 ta. I think a lite bit, but 4472 02:15:30,537 --> 02:15:32,373 theed to to b par of ts 4473 02:15:32,373 --> 02:15:34,476 communit They needo take 4474 02:15:34,476 --> 02:15:36,876 me action onhemsves and 4475 02:15:37,579 --> 02:15:39,579 identify some betterquipment. 4476 02:15:39,681 --> 02:15:41,681 Ank you. 4477 02:15:44,219 --> 02:15:46,219 Additional comments. Onc 4478 02:15:46,888 --> 02:15:47,389 twic sd. I 4479 02:15:47,389 --> 02:15:48,756 ll bring I bac 4480 02:15:48,756 --> 02:15:50,225 to couil fordditnal 4481 02:15:50,225 --> 02:15:50,523 coersation and or motions, 4482 02:15:50,523 --> 02:15:52,261 bute 4483 02:15:52,261 --> 02:15:53,995 ll startithiss 4484 02:15:53,995 --> 02:15:55,995 Mier identying questns 4485 02:15:56,631 --> 02:15:57,398 that she was able to fromhat. 4486 02:15:57,398 --> 02:15:58,234 And we 4487 02:15:58,234 --> 02:15:59,567 ll go fm there. 4488 02:15:59,567 --> 02:16:00,802 Okay Mr.Ayor, memrs of the 4489 02:16:00,802 --> 02:16:01,903 cocil, I will srt dow the 4490 02:16:01,903 --> 02:16:03,404 list understanngome MAY 4491 02:16:03,404 --> 02:16:04,672 ve bn a bit mor rhetocal 4492 02:16:04,672 --> 02:16:05,540 necessily tha requiring an 4493 02:16:05,540 --> 02:16:06,876 aner,ut I will let y be 4494 02:16:06,876 --> 02:16:07,809 theudge of those So the 4495 02:16:07,809 --> 02:16:09,711 first questio I heard fro 4496 02:16:09,711 --> 02:16:10,912 Kathy was t applicant told b 4497 02:16:10,912 --> 02:16:12,714 the cityhat the eense 4498 02:16:12,714 --> 02:16:14,160 relatedo soundtudies was at 4499 02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:15,818 e rk of thepplint and 4500 02:16:15,818 --> 02:16:19,418 did notean an iup would b 4501 02:16:19,989 --> 02:16:21,423 approv. 4502 02:16:21,423 --> 02:16:23,591 I should pbablefer tt, 4503 02:16:23,591 --> 02:16:24,794 MR. MAY, to the city attorne 4504 02:16:24,794 --> 02:16:27,194 wh hadonveations wh the 4505 02:16:28,998 --> 02:16:30,598 apicant aut. 4506 02:16:30,598 --> 02:16:31,901 MR. MAY, yh. 4507 02:16:31,901 --> 02:16:33,301 The noi mitigionall 4508 02:16:33,301 --> 02:16:34,335 bemehen itas became 4509 02:16:34,335 --> 02:16:36,671 necessary, I became par of 4510 02:16:36,671 --> 02:16:38,274 e mhanical pert. I was 4511 02:16:38,274 --> 02:16:38,661 theity staffuilt. Itasn 4512 02:16:38,661 --> 02:16:39,574 theesidt 4513 02:16:39,574 --> 02:16:41,343 s best interest to 4514 02:16:41,343 --> 02:16:43,343 gethatoise mitigatio wal 4515 02:16:43,512 --> 02:16:45,547 up as soo as possie. Eve 4516 02:16:45,547 --> 02:16:47,816 prr to the iup bei 4517 02:16:47,816 --> 02:16:50,216 prov, becse clely ty 4518 02:16:52,530 --> 02:16:53,855 were havg hvy impts, 4519 02:16:53,855 --> 02:16:56,424 cause we wer then becau 4520 02:16:56,424 --> 02:16:58,793 the noise mitigation wal was 4521 02:16:58,793 --> 02:16:59,595 pa of the mechanical pert 4522 02:16:59,595 --> 02:17:01,329 to aually connect the 4523 02:17:01,329 --> 02:17:03,132 chilrs weere approving. We 4524 02:17:03,132 --> 02:17:04,365 approved the mecnical permit 4525 02:17:04,365 --> 02:17:06,680 to cnect the temporary 4526 02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:08,468 ille. Por toow, the 4527 02:17:10,720 --> 02:17:13,720 p, but there w conversation 4528 02:17:13,275 --> 02:17:14,430 about the cditialature of 4529 02:17:14,430 --> 02:17:14,476 are y, we 4530 02:17:14,476 --> 02:17:15,944 repproving 4531 02:17:15,944 --> 02:17:16,879 this mechanical permit prioro 4532 02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:17,680 th iup but it 4533 02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:19,347 sonditional 4534 02:17:19,347 --> 02:17:20,783 at theity attorney finish 4535 02:17:20,783 --> 02:17:21,917 that. 4536 02:17:21,917 --> 02:17:23,752 S. Mr.Ayor the buildg 4537 02:17:23,752 --> 02:17:24,167 offial made it clear that 4538 02:17:24,167 --> 02:17:24,787 you 4539 02:17:24,787 --> 02:17:25,855 re proedin at youwn 4540 02:17:25,855 --> 02:17:26,589 sk. 4541 02:17:26,589 --> 02:17:28,157 Thank y.. 4542 02:17:28,157 --> 02:17:28,891 At you own cost and ris 4543 02:17:28,891 --> 02:17:29,658 I don 4544 02:17:29,658 --> 02:17:30,360 tant to interpt the 4545 02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:30,370 fl. 4546 02:17:30,370 --> 02:17:30,826 Because kno we 4547 02:17:30,826 --> 02:17:32,826 re getti to 4548 02:17:33,395 --> 02:17:35,795 the residents questions, but 4549 02:17:37,699 --> 02:17:38,501 the grantg of t the 4550 02:17:38,501 --> 02:17:39,968 ilding permit for the 4551 02:17:39,968 --> 02:17:40,803 mporaryall and everying 4552 02:17:40,803 --> 02:17:41,804 el tha doesn 4553 02:17:41,804 --> 02:17:43,500 tonstitute an 4554 02:17:43,500 --> 02:17:44,573 endorsemen o a final 4555 02:17:44,573 --> 02:17:47,573 permanent use o cree an 4556 02:17:48,611 --> 02:17:50,450 entitlement to aermantse. 4557 02:17:50,450 --> 02:17:52,445 MR..Ayor Councilma Bakken, 4558 02:17:53,150 --> 02:17:55,251 no, whoug it was sce the 4559 02:17:55,251 --> 02:17:56,785 applicant started the tempora 4560 02:17:56,785 --> 02:17:57,820 chilrs whout the appval 4561 02:17:57,820 --> 02:18:00,122 an wer receiving noise 4562 02:18:00,122 --> 02:18:01,423 complaints.E indicat it 4563 02:18:01,423 --> 02:18:03,823 might be inour bestntert 4564 02:18:04,260 --> 02:18:06,930 to p thi sound barer u 4565 02:18:06,930 --> 02:18:08,197 t doi so, remd h I 4566 02:18:08,197 --> 02:18:09,980 at yourwnisk aour own 4567 02:18:09,980 --> 02:18:10,650 expense. 4568 02:18:10,650 --> 02:18:12,650 Okay? 4569 02:18:12,301 --> 02:18:13,135 And t other optn waso 4570 02:18:13,135 --> 02:18:15,135 cease oratisfhe 4571 02:18:15,237 --> 02:18:16,338 chilleight? 4572 02:18:16,338 --> 02:18:18,338 S. 4573 02:18:19,410 --> 02:18:19,410 Okay. Okay. 4574 02:18:19,410 --> 02:18:20,376 I 4575 02:18:20,376 --> 02:18:21,844 m connuin on several 4576 02:18:21,844 --> 02:18:23,712 quesons for Mia.Irst one 4577 02:18:23,712 --> 02:18:24,947 being if the intim useermi 4578 02:18:24,947 --> 02:18:26,649 ispprovednd Ironate is 4579 02:18:26,649 --> 02:18:27,750 ven, the ierim use pert, 4580 02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:29,520 will Iro Gate b alled to 4581 02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:30,153 install theechacal yard, 4582 02:18:30,153 --> 02:18:31,854 including the eightermant 4583 02:18:31,854 --> 02:18:34,560 chillers,r as a new public 4584 02:18:34,560 --> 02:18:35,580 process requiredithaid 4585 02:18:35,580 --> 02:18:36,325 oces with theublic?E 4586 02:18:36,325 --> 02:18:37,593 able toomme o t changes 4587 02:18:37,593 --> 02:18:38,661 to theite or whouthat 4588 02:18:38,661 --> 02:18:41,610 procs, with theublic.E 4589 02:18:41,464 --> 02:18:43,464 able to comnt. 4590 02:18:44,266 --> 02:18:45,835 MR. MAY, the the pernent 4591 02:18:45,835 --> 02:18:47,437 chillers a is a mechacal 4592 02:18:47,437 --> 02:18:48,437 permit in for the pernent 4593 02:18:48,437 --> 02:18:49,472 chillers. Auilding pmit 4594 02:18:49,472 --> 02:18:50,906 wi als be require for tha 4595 02:18:50,906 --> 02:18:52,341 because the masry wl 4596 02:18:52,341 --> 02:18:53,609 permsounow buildin 4597 02:18:53,609 --> 02:18:55,609 permits, mhanicalermits a 4598 02:18:55,945 --> 02:18:57,780 appred administrately. S 4599 02:18:57,780 --> 02:18:59,949 there io public mting 4600 02:18:59,949 --> 02:19:02,349 ocessn thepprol o a 4601 02:19:03,986 --> 02:19:05,986 buildingr mechanical permit 4602 02:19:06,490 --> 02:19:07,691 Next question. Doe the plic 4603 02:19:07,691 --> 02:19:08,825 ve accesso communication 4604 02:19:08,825 --> 02:19:11,825 twee the appcant a t 4605 02:19:13,796 --> 02:19:15,980 city Ieard doeshe plic 4606 02:19:15,980 --> 02:19:16,365 ve accesso communicati 4607 02:19:16,365 --> 02:19:17,566 between t applicant and the 4608 02:19:17,566 --> 02:19:18,800 city, iluding, I would say 4609 02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:18,535 what we 4610 02:19:18,535 --> 02:19:19,869 vencluded I our 4611 02:19:19,869 --> 02:19:22,869 pack would b my aneotal 4612 02:19:23,340 --> 02:19:25,740 comment. 4613 02:19:25,740 --> 02:19:26,142 I mean,ccessasically we 4614 02:19:26,142 --> 02:19:27,210 provided I think some o that 4615 02:19:27,210 --> 02:19:30,210 infoation I part o t 4616 02:19:31,114 --> 02:19:32,581 packet There mht be oer 4617 02:19:32,581 --> 02:19:34,581 communicatns withhe 4618 02:19:34,783 --> 02:19:36,318 apicant offli tt was 4619 02:19:36,318 --> 02:19:37,254 communiced befe. Tt is 4620 02:19:37,254 --> 02:19:37,626 not partf t packet tha 4621 02:19:37,626 --> 02:19:38,722 wasn 4622 02:19:38,722 --> 02:19:40,220 relevant to the 4623 02:19:40,220 --> 02:19:40,432 communicatn wh wit 4624 02:19:40,432 --> 02:19:41,258 counci 4625 02:19:41,258 --> 02:19:42,459 consideration. Thi 4626 02:19:42,459 --> 02:19:43,894 item 4627 02:19:43,894 --> 02:19:45,395 Okay 4628 02:19:45,395 --> 02:19:46,630 Willutur noi studies be 4629 02:19:46,630 --> 02:19:47,831 do on wknights and 4630 02:19:47,831 --> 02:19:48,532 ekends, wch is the tim of 4631 02:19:48,532 --> 02:19:50,932 y and neighbors are 4632 02:19:53,603 --> 02:19:55,603 pericinghe mt noi. 4633 02:19:59,209 --> 02:20:00,811 MR. Mayor, the. Noi study was 4634 02:20:00,811 --> 02:20:02,412 done which sai that if they 4635 02:20:02,412 --> 02:20:05,315 implemen this wall,t shoul 4636 02:20:05,315 --> 02:20:07,315 meet noisetandards. Nse 4637 02:20:08,318 --> 02:20:10,654 evuati was completed that 4638 02:20:10,654 --> 02:20:12,889 said tt a between 3 and 4 4639 02:20:12,889 --> 02:20:16,326 m. On a ctain day itid 4640 02:20:16,326 --> 02:20:17,427 notxcee nse standar 4641 02:20:17,427 --> 02:20:20,230 There is a condition of 4642 02:20:20,230 --> 02:20:23,330 apoval that ss that the 4643 02:20:23,330 --> 02:20:24,670 ciay request addiona 4644 02:20:24,670 --> 02:20:26,467 noe stues or noi 4645 02:20:27,871 --> 02:20:29,973 evaluaons. I wld def to 4646 02:20:29,973 --> 02:20:32,175 e city attney on. Under 4647 02:20:32,175 --> 02:20:32,876 what critea could w require 4648 02:20:32,876 --> 02:20:33,477 at?On 4649 02:20:33,477 --> 02:20:34,878 t tnk that we 4650 02:20:34,878 --> 02:20:36,246 uld requirehat everyay, 4651 02:20:36,246 --> 02:20:38,148 but would derhat to the 4652 02:20:38,148 --> 02:20:39,716 ci attorney. As far as how 4653 02:20:39,716 --> 02:20:41,184 ofn or whe we cou require 4654 02:20:41,184 --> 02:20:43,584 addional noise stues or 4655 02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:47,590 noise evaluions. 4656 02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:50,393 Mr.Ayor.T has toe 4657 02:20:50,393 --> 02:20:51,495 raonal related to have a 4658 02:20:51,495 --> 02:20:51,971 nexuso the wt you 4659 02:20:51,971 --> 02:20:52,963 ve 4660 02:20:52,963 --> 02:20:53,497 approv. So I you 4661 02:20:53,497 --> 02:20:55,980 ve arove 4662 02:20:55,980 --> 02:20:56,766 is subject to t noise wall, 4663 02:20:56,766 --> 02:20:58,401 then city all of a sudn gets 4664 02:20:58,401 --> 02:20:59,870 another doz complaintes, 4665 02:20:59,870 --> 02:21:01,104 we could we cld have fol 4666 02:21:01,104 --> 02:21:04,641 th condition and say we need 4667 02:21:04,641 --> 02:21:06,510 other noise study. 4668 02:21:06,510 --> 02:21:07,677 And to addn fai to say the 4669 02:21:07,677 --> 02:21:08,512 we cou add a noi study 4670 02:21:08,512 --> 02:21:09,914 would b need. Thatould 4671 02:21:09,914 --> 02:21:12,820 includ weekend hours a 4672 02:21:12,820 --> 02:21:14,217 eknight hours. Is ttrue? 4673 02:21:14,217 --> 02:21:16,186 Yes. Oka 4674 02:21:16,186 --> 02:21:17,888 the MPCatandds dineate 4675 02:21:17,888 --> 02:21:20,888 cotant noise versus on and 4676 02:21:20,957 --> 02:21:22,957 of noise? 4677 02:21:23,927 --> 02:21:26,927 No. The MPCa, MPCa standds 4678 02:21:27,598 --> 02:21:29,598 sicallyreubject to the 4679 02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:31,601 hours specied here.O 4680 02:21:31,601 --> 02:21:33,538 basillyt 4681 02:21:33,538 --> 02:21:35,938 s bed on dibel 4682 02:21:36,390 --> 02:21:38,439 vels beten 7nd 10 p. 4683 02:21:38,743 --> 02:21:41,112 And the 10 P.M. To 7 a.. So 4684 02:21:41,112 --> 02:21:43,614 it isot spefic to mbe 4685 02:21:43,614 --> 02:21:44,981 the continuous basically 4686 02:21:44,981 --> 02:21:46,516 lower freency nois tt 4687 02:21:46,516 --> 02:21:49,353 migh be generated tha maye 4688 02:21:49,353 --> 02:21:51,556 consider more of nsance 4689 02:21:51,556 --> 02:21:52,356 than reay nse vlati. 4690 02:21:52,356 --> 02:21:53,957 Okay. 4691 02:21:53,957 --> 02:21:54,859 Hrd Timsked the questns 4692 02:21:54,859 --> 02:21:55,759 what will hapn tohe 4693 02:21:55,759 --> 02:21:57,610 property valsf t 4694 02:21:57,610 --> 02:21:58,862 neighbhood if ts busines 4695 02:21:58,862 --> 02:22:00,231 ves forwardndave other 4696 02:22:00,231 --> 02:22:01,666 studieseen done on simil 4697 02:22:01,666 --> 02:22:03,340 da cter busesseo know 4698 02:22:03,340 --> 02:22:04,669 whether wallndmprovements 4699 02:22:04,669 --> 02:22:06,771 asropod wl solve the 4700 02:22:06,771 --> 02:22:08,538 ise issues, aone wts to 4701 02:22:08,538 --> 02:22:09,739 ke, that one 4702 02:22:09,739 --> 02:22:11,141 I. 4703 02:22:11,141 --> 02:22:12,977 M surehere are pbabl 4704 02:22:12,977 --> 02:22:14,645 sties that a out there, 4705 02:22:14,645 --> 02:22:15,580 whethe what 4706 02:22:15,580 --> 02:22:17,580 somplating to 4707 02:22:18,490 --> 02:22:19,550 at is wt type of wha type 4708 02:22:19,550 --> 02:22:21,118 of cooling system are they 4709 02:22:21,118 --> 02:22:23,870 opating? Is it the se type 4710 02:22:23,870 --> 02:22:24,388 of mhanical, younow, 4711 02:22:24,388 --> 02:22:24,888 mponts a part of tha So 4712 02:22:24,888 --> 02:22:25,490 there 4713 02:22:25,490 --> 02:22:26,290 s som comications 4714 02:22:26,290 --> 02:22:26,821 at, you know, it 4715 02:22:26,821 --> 02:22:28,821 s not 4716 02:22:28,893 --> 02:22:30,228 necessily apples to apples. 4717 02:22:30,228 --> 02:22:31,795 And t last qstio I hrd, 4718 02:22:31,795 --> 02:22:33,640 whic perps w rhetorical, 4719 02:22:33,640 --> 02:22:33,998 but wts the iact o l 4720 02:22:33,998 --> 02:22:35,133 fruenc noise on the 4721 02:22:35,133 --> 02:22:37,133 children,artilarly tse 4722 02:22:37,268 --> 02:22:37,858 atteing the neay sool? 4723 02:22:37,858 --> 02:22:38,403 Don 4724 02:22:38,403 --> 02:22:39,300 t kno tha we have that 4725 02:22:39,300 --> 02:22:41,272 data at ts time. 4726 02:22:41,272 --> 02:22:43,272 And. 4727 02:22:43,608 --> 02:22:44,390 Mr.Ayor we don 4728 02:22:44,390 --> 02:22:45,675 t have tha 4729 02:22:45,675 --> 02:22:47,411 data. That reay is a health 4730 02:22:47,411 --> 02:22:49,680 issue. Thaeally I the ste 4731 02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:52,800 of Minsota gernance,ublic 4732 02:22:52,750 --> 02:22:55,453 health. And we areust lik we 4733 02:22:55,453 --> 02:22:58,453 need to ade bpa standards 4734 02:22:59,290 --> 02:23:02,290 foroise The state sets wt 4735 02:23:02,660 --> 02:23:03,728 thresholds are for health. 4736 02:23:03,728 --> 02:23:06,898 Thos a the questions that I 4737 02:23:06,898 --> 02:23:07,899 had written dn. MR. MAY. 4738 02:23:07,899 --> 02:23:08,900 Thank you. 4739 02:23:08,900 --> 02:23:09,308 Cocilmber Hann. 4740 02:23:09,308 --> 02:23:11,308 D like 4741 02:23:11,904 --> 02:23:14,904 toollow up with point tt 4742 02:23:15,720 --> 02:23:16,507 waade in cments at lst 4743 02:23:16,507 --> 02:23:16,868 thre separat times that I 4744 02:23:16,868 --> 02:23:17,708 don 4745 02:23:17,708 --> 02:23:18,309 t thi h been dirtly 4746 02:23:18,309 --> 02:23:19,944 addressed. And I 4747 02:23:19,944 --> 02:23:21,944 dike to ask 4748 02:23:24,549 --> 02:23:25,950 . Margoliesf if. 4749 02:23:25,950 --> 02:23:27,950 Three cllers. 4750 02:23:29,187 --> 02:23:30,288 E suffient tporarily, why 4751 02:23:30,288 --> 02:23:31,757 ishere a nee for eig 4752 02:23:31,757 --> 02:23:33,758 chilrs permanely? Is thi 4753 02:23:33,758 --> 02:23:36,158 an indicatn of pnnedrowt 4754 02:23:36,962 --> 02:23:37,430 in the dat center? 4755 02:23:37,430 --> 02:23:38,262 I don 4756 02:23:38,262 --> 02:23:40,662 kno if I havehe 4757 02:23:41,133 --> 02:23:42,867 answero that. Councilmemb. 4758 02:23:42,867 --> 02:23:44,136 Th it MAY haveoo with the 4759 02:23:44,136 --> 02:23:46,700 efficiency. I MAY he to do 4760 02:23:46,700 --> 02:23:47,139 with how they opete. I has 4761 02:23:47,139 --> 02:23:47,772 do with theemann the 4762 02:23:47,772 --> 02:23:48,233 buding Ion 4763 02:23:48,233 --> 02:23:50,233 t know the 4764 02:23:50,575 --> 02:23:52,143 answer to tha There have been 4765 02:23:52,143 --> 02:23:52,543 a number of questions tight 4766 02:23:52,543 --> 02:23:54,543 which I c 4767 02:23:55,179 --> 02:23:55,480 t answer, and it 4768 02:23:55,480 --> 02:23:57,480 s 4769 02:23:57,482 --> 02:23:58,449 not because I 4770 02:23:58,449 --> 02:23:58,810 m evasive It 4771 02:23:58,810 --> 02:23:59,185 s 4772 02:23:59,185 --> 02:23:59,463 because I 4773 02:23:59,463 --> 02:23:59,797 mtupid. D 4774 02:23:59,797 --> 02:24:00,785 t 4775 02:24:00,785 --> 02:24:02,785 ow wt thosehenswers, 4776 02:24:02,987 --> 02:24:03,288 oseuestions a. We 4777 02:24:03,288 --> 02:24:04,555 ve 4778 02:24:04,555 --> 02:24:07,458 ied to not them. A if the 4779 02:24:07,458 --> 02:24:09,194 council wou like, w would 4780 02:24:09,194 --> 02:24:10,595 work hard to try and gethe 4781 02:24:10,595 --> 02:24:11,762 swer to yourpecic 4782 02:24:11,762 --> 02:24:12,830 questions.E 4783 02:24:12,830 --> 02:24:14,599 ve tried t be 4784 02:24:14,599 --> 02:24:16,999 respsive t erythg tt 4785 02:24:17,690 --> 02:24:18,270 the cityas asked us too 4786 02:24:18,270 --> 02:24:19,804 and thenowy sdies and the 4787 02:24:19,804 --> 02:24:20,906 way yousked uso dohem. We 4788 02:24:20,906 --> 02:24:21,940 provided the information you 4789 02:24:21,940 --> 02:24:22,874 aske We 4790 02:24:22,874 --> 02:24:24,342 llontie to do 4791 02:24:24,342 --> 02:24:24,843 th. And if it 4792 02:24:24,843 --> 02:24:26,843 s the council 4793 02:24:27,112 --> 02:24:28,513 desi to hav us pvideore 4794 02:24:28,513 --> 02:24:28,880 informion, the tha 4795 02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:29,107 what 4796 02:24:29,107 --> 02:24:30,820 we 4797 02:24:30,820 --> 02:24:30,516 ll do. If it 4798 02:24:30,516 --> 02:24:30,916 she council 4799 02:24:30,916 --> 02:24:32,384 s 4800 02:24:32,384 --> 02:24:33,417 desire f us toave a public 4801 02:24:33,417 --> 02:24:34,987 meing and he more 4802 02:24:34,987 --> 02:24:36,889 discussions and g more 4803 02:24:36,889 --> 02:24:38,222 information fm the fro the 4804 02:24:38,222 --> 02:24:38,768 fr the neighrhoo w 4805 02:24:38,768 --> 02:24:40,768 re 4806 02:24:41,626 --> 02:24:41,927 happ to do tha If you fee 4807 02:24:41,927 --> 02:24:43,262 at tre 4808 02:24:43,262 --> 02:24:44,530 s mornformation 4809 02:24:44,530 --> 02:24:45,664 that you nd in ordero make 4810 02:24:45,664 --> 02:24:48,640 is decision orhat hasn 4811 02:24:48,233 --> 02:24:51,833 been put ohe record or whe. 4812 02:24:53,338 --> 02:24:55,541 Hay andnd willingo do 4813 02:24:55,541 --> 02:24:56,941 at. 4814 02:24:56,941 --> 02:24:59,711 And we appreate tha would 4815 02:24:59,711 --> 02:25:02,711 be interested in knowing why 4816 02:25:04,883 --> 02:25:05,616 eit chillers areeede. 4817 02:25:05,616 --> 02:25:07,616 MR. Mayor. 4818 02:25:09,353 --> 02:25:11,353 Cocil. 4819 02:25:11,757 --> 02:25:12,470 Just to comment on erythg 4820 02:25:12,470 --> 02:25:12,491 that we 4821 02:25:12,491 --> 02:25:13,258 ve hnd I 4822 02:25:13,258 --> 02:25:15,258 keep it 4823 02:25:16,962 --> 02:25:19,932 etty short he.Nd I look 4824 02:25:19,932 --> 02:25:22,868 at this almt entirely throu 4825 02:25:22,868 --> 02:25:24,335 the lenf lan use And I 4826 02:25:24,335 --> 02:25:24,970 m 4827 02:25:24,970 --> 02:25:26,970 I gss I 4828 02:25:27,539 --> 02:25:29,374 say, incdulous 4829 02:25:29,374 --> 02:25:29,998 As far a I canell, there 4830 02:25:29,998 --> 02:25:31,577 s a 4831 02:25:31,577 --> 02:25:33,977 numerous data cters around 4832 02:25:34,179 --> 02:25:35,214 the Tn Cities that a that 4833 02:25:35,214 --> 02:25:35,947 are developed by thisroup 4834 02:25:35,947 --> 02:25:36,582 andnd I d 4835 02:25:36,582 --> 02:25:37,170 t understd 4836 02:25:37,170 --> 02:25:39,170 w they wldn 4837 02:25:39,251 --> 02:25:41,620 t kno to do 4838 02:25:41,620 --> 02:25:42,588 thr d diligence t see I 4839 02:25:42,588 --> 02:25:44,588 thehills onhe building 4840 02:25:45,491 --> 02:25:45,891 are working pperly, that it 4841 02:25:45,891 --> 02:25:47,593 s 4842 02:25:47,593 --> 02:25:48,105 aermiedse in thi area, 4843 02:25:48,105 --> 02:25:48,961 that they 4844 02:25:48,961 --> 02:25:50,530 re gting the pror 4845 02:25:50,530 --> 02:25:52,530 peitso do theuildgnd, 4846 02:25:53,799 --> 02:25:56,199 and, and mechacal perts. 4847 02:25:56,301 --> 02:25:57,402 Ourules he in Eagan a not 4848 02:25:57,402 --> 02:25:58,370 that arce. They 4849 02:25:58,370 --> 02:26:00,370 re nothat 4850 02:26:00,306 --> 02:26:00,706 diffent tha any otherity. 4851 02:26:00,706 --> 02:26:02,706 And I 4852 02:26:04,176 --> 02:26:06,211 m just cious how 4853 02:26:06,211 --> 02:26:08,515 ca youome in here a not 4854 02:26:08,515 --> 02:26:10,716 derstand the basic rulesf 4855 02:26:10,716 --> 02:26:13,716 wou, you kw, put new 4856 02:26:15,255 --> 02:26:17,656 usento a buildin? And my 4857 02:26:17,656 --> 02:26:19,491 biggt concern, and I tnk 4858 02:26:19,491 --> 02:26:19,851 Tim mentied it earer, I 4859 02:26:19,851 --> 02:26:21,851 what 4860 02:26:23,830 --> 02:26:24,998 sext? I mean. How many 4861 02:26:24,998 --> 02:26:26,598 re times is somethi else 4862 02:26:26,598 --> 02:26:27,933 gog to happen? For example 4863 02:26:27,933 --> 02:26:28,200 mae an eansion? We don 4864 02:26:28,200 --> 02:26:30,200 t 4865 02:26:30,336 --> 02:26:31,437 kn. Ds it hpen fst and 4866 02:26:31,437 --> 02:26:33,772 then weind outbout it 4867 02:26:33,772 --> 02:26:36,108 ter? Think we need to me 4868 02:26:36,108 --> 02:26:38,508 surehat theules we here 4869 02:26:39,440 --> 02:26:39,378 beg respected. Tha 4870 02:26:39,378 --> 02:26:39,669 all I 4871 02:26:39,669 --> 02:26:41,246 have 4872 02:26:41,246 --> 02:26:43,246 MR. 4873 02:26:43,416 --> 02:26:44,300 Counciembe Fields. 4874 02:26:44,300 --> 02:26:45,500 I 4875 02:26:45,500 --> 02:26:46,151 m going to ppose. 4876 02:26:46,151 --> 02:26:48,151 A motion. 4877 02:26:50,255 --> 02:26:51,757 Gng to dirt, prepa 4878 02:26:51,757 --> 02:26:53,560 d prepare. Finding the fac 4879 02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:55,428 renial for theix mth 4880 02:26:55,428 --> 02:26:57,630 interim use pert to aow 4881 02:26:57,630 --> 02:26:59,566 ouoor stoge of fou tiler 4882 02:26:59,566 --> 02:27:02,535 chillers units on t prorty, 4883 02:27:02,535 --> 02:27:04,270 located at 319 Pot Kno 4884 02:27:04,270 --> 02:27:06,239 Ro, legally described as lot 4885 02:27:06,239 --> 02:27:08,639 block one. Unisys Pk. 4886 02:27:09,676 --> 02:27:09,976 Send now. Tnk you. So here, 4887 02:27:09,976 --> 02:27:11,770 here I 4888 02:27:11,770 --> 02:27:11,778 m sting I 4889 02:27:11,778 --> 02:27:13,778 been at 4890 02:27:14,346 --> 02:27:16,746 isn this dt fver6 4891 02:27:17,500 --> 02:27:20,986 years,nd I have never seen a 4892 02:27:20,986 --> 02:27:22,655 deloperomen witho 4893 02:27:22,655 --> 02:27:25,655 king to speako a couil 4894 02:27:25,792 --> 02:27:27,560 meer askin to wor Youid 4895 02:27:27,560 --> 02:27:31,160 rk wh our cit staff aft 4896 02:27:33,433 --> 02:27:36,433 the fact,nd the dregardor 4897 02:27:37,503 --> 02:27:39,738 the whole cy process. I mn, 4898 02:27:39,738 --> 02:27:42,876 ve bee a comnity and a 4899 02:27:42,876 --> 02:27:43,306 counlor a lg timehere 4900 02:27:43,306 --> 02:27:43,970 We 4901 02:27:43,970 --> 02:27:45,970 we 4902 02:27:46,713 --> 02:27:49,113 re family. We hav 4903 02:27:49,849 --> 02:27:52,849 builthis city for our pple. 4904 02:27:53,353 --> 02:27:56,122 We p arocess togetr for 4905 02:27:56,122 --> 02:27:58,324 an aa study We metith t 4906 02:27:58,324 --> 02:28:00,560 elemenry schoo kids. W m 4907 02:28:00,560 --> 02:28:02,428 with atarketest, with t 4908 02:28:02,428 --> 02:28:03,930 peop of the cy ofagan 4909 02:28:03,930 --> 02:28:06,320 Whatid they wan us t do 4910 02:28:06,320 --> 02:28:07,467 th this aa? A w came up 4911 02:28:07,467 --> 02:28:07,867 with a gre pla We 4912 02:28:07,867 --> 02:28:09,536 oing 4913 02:28:09,536 --> 02:28:11,437 to he new peoe I w 4914 02:28:11,437 --> 02:28:14,437 going t hav homes, affordable 4915 02:28:14,641 --> 02:28:15,110 usin MAY somusinesses. 4916 02:28:15,110 --> 02:28:15,909 U dn 4917 02:28:15,909 --> 02:28:16,300 t ask. You didn 4918 02:28:16,300 --> 02:28:17,244 tome 4919 02:28:17,244 --> 02:28:18,678 in a ask. Youidn 4920 02:28:18,678 --> 02:28:19,446 t care. 4921 02:28:19,446 --> 02:28:19,860 You just said, oka we 4922 02:28:19,860 --> 02:28:21,348 re 4923 02:28:21,348 --> 02:28:23,149 going to do thi But the one 4924 02:28:23,149 --> 02:28:25,149 thinghataughte off guard 4925 02:28:26,554 --> 02:28:29,722 is how my tim I heard, I d 4926 02:28:29,722 --> 02:28:32,358 not kw. I d not kw. Have 4927 02:28:32,358 --> 02:28:35,358 counted at least5. Io not 4928 02:28:36,529 --> 02:28:36,890 knowhat tss why I d 4929 02:28:36,890 --> 02:28:38,865 t 4930 02:28:38,865 --> 02:28:40,868 ow I you bong I thi 4931 02:28:40,868 --> 02:28:41,868 greatity. Sohat 4932 02:28:41,868 --> 02:28:42,126 s my. 4933 02:28:42,126 --> 02:28:44,126 At 4934 02:28:46,730 --> 02:28:48,740 s my opinionnd abody 4935 02:28:48,740 --> 02:28:50,760 else wants to add. 4936 02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:52,760 Councilmemr Bucket. 4937 02:28:53,514 --> 02:28:54,981 So well Iuppo theotio 4938 02:28:54,981 --> 02:28:55,915 Yeah Motio is made a 4939 02:28:55,915 --> 02:28:57,116 second. The motn on the 4940 02:28:57,116 --> 02:28:59,116 tabl here. 4941 02:28:59,954 --> 02:29:01,455 And I commend MR. Marlies for 4942 02:29:01,455 --> 02:29:02,556 beg a very efftivend 4943 02:29:02,556 --> 02:29:04,956 zeous advocate for you 4944 02:29:05,920 --> 02:29:05,860 client. I, I aire the 4945 02:29:05,860 --> 02:29:06,207 rratehat you 4946 02:29:06,207 --> 02:29:07,961 ve p 4947 02:29:07,961 --> 02:29:08,457 forwar Withll due resct, 4948 02:29:08,457 --> 02:29:10,397 I 4949 02:29:10,397 --> 02:29:12,398 m not quite buying I The 4950 02:29:12,398 --> 02:29:13,266 main narrative I that this is 4951 02:29:13,266 --> 02:29:14,235 thing more than a 4952 02:29:14,235 --> 02:29:15,669 continuation of a 4953 02:29:15,669 --> 02:29:17,669 wellstabshed historil 4954 02:29:18,771 --> 02:29:21,171 use. Strony disree wit 4955 02:29:21,441 --> 02:29:22,976 th characterizatio to t 4956 02:29:22,976 --> 02:29:24,770 exte that 4957 02:29:24,770 --> 02:29:24,712 mot comfortable 4958 02:29:24,712 --> 02:29:26,379 granting t Ey 4959 02:29:26,379 --> 02:29:27,915 p, because I 4960 02:29:27,915 --> 02:29:30,915 thk it would repsent or 4961 02:29:31,618 --> 02:29:34,355 able a fundantal change in 4962 02:29:34,355 --> 02:29:36,390 the use of troperty. The 4963 02:29:36,390 --> 02:29:38,826 histical use has been an 4964 02:29:38,826 --> 02:29:40,260 acssory use, a sllerse 4965 02:29:40,260 --> 02:29:41,728 methingeconry andn 4966 02:29:41,728 --> 02:29:42,930 suppt of t mai u ofhe 4967 02:29:42,930 --> 02:29:45,900 property, which is resrch a 4968 02:29:45,900 --> 02:29:47,201 developmen I did ask a numr 4969 02:29:47,201 --> 02:29:49,403 ofuestns. T to fd out 4970 02:29:49,403 --> 02:29:49,662 wh exactly I goingn here. 4971 02:29:49,662 --> 02:29:51,662 It 4972 02:29:53,507 --> 02:29:55,942 not tt. Ts type of 4973 02:29:55,942 --> 02:29:57,344 acon should more prorly be 4974 02:29:57,344 --> 02:29:58,813 nsided in a plic pcess 4975 02:29:58,813 --> 02:29:59,267 through a guide chaend or 4976 02:29:59,267 --> 02:30:00,460 zong. 4977 02:30:00,460 --> 02:30:00,370 Ange 4978 02:30:00,370 --> 02:30:02,370 it 4979 02:30:03,651 --> 02:30:04,418 s goi to happent all. 4980 02:30:04,418 --> 02:30:05,753 D although we 4981 02:30:05,753 --> 02:30:07,354 re not 4982 02:30:07,354 --> 02:30:08,622 addressing tho questions 4983 02:30:08,622 --> 02:30:12,222 tonight becse it I just an 4984 02:30:12,425 --> 02:30:14,361 iep, tt pcess wouldlso 4985 02:30:14,361 --> 02:30:17,361 mo properly aow the cncil 4986 02:30:17,832 --> 02:30:20,468 t div into issues of 4987 02:30:20,468 --> 02:30:22,870 electric and wat u, you 4988 02:30:22,870 --> 02:30:23,237 ow, to the nghbo, the 4989 02:30:23,237 --> 02:30:23,971 city doesn 4990 02:30:23,971 --> 02:30:25,105 t do sff with 4991 02:30:25,105 --> 02:30:25,361 ectrity. I mea it 4992 02:30:25,361 --> 02:30:26,307 s 4993 02:30:26,307 --> 02:30:26,581 thern this neck of the 4994 02:30:26,581 --> 02:30:27,274 wood it 4995 02:30:27,274 --> 02:30:28,976 s either Xl or 4996 02:30:28,976 --> 02:30:31,111 kota Electric. I tnk ts 4997 02:30:31,111 --> 02:30:32,980 property I served by Excel. 4998 02:30:32,980 --> 02:30:35,683 Ther are ways that t power 4999 02:30:35,683 --> 02:30:36,851 company can proct ratepayers 5000 02:30:36,851 --> 02:30:38,520 om t impts ofata 5001 02:30:38,520 --> 02:30:39,753 ceers through theower 5002 02:30:39,753 --> 02:30:39,999 puhase agreent. I think 5003 02:30:39,999 --> 02:30:41,121 it 5004 02:30:41,121 --> 02:30:41,366 s Exc. I havo idea wha 5005 02:30:41,366 --> 02:30:41,656 they 5006 02:30:41,656 --> 02:30:42,189 doing. It 5007 02:30:42,189 --> 02:30:42,890 s beyondhe 5008 02:30:42,890 --> 02:30:43,286 purviewf what we 5009 02:30:43,286 --> 02:30:44,993 reoing 5010 02:30:44,993 --> 02:30:47,862 toght. But just so that, you 5011 02:30:47,862 --> 02:30:50,498 know,hose tes of of 5012 02:30:50,498 --> 02:30:52,199 mitigatis c be de. And I 5013 02:30:52,199 --> 02:30:54,599 ink possibly ihe context 5014 02:30:54,736 --> 02:30:56,470 of land u changhe city 5015 02:30:56,470 --> 02:30:58,470 MAY haveome authorio 5016 02:30:59,306 --> 02:31:01,242 reire actio tt mitigate 5017 02:31:01,242 --> 02:31:01,557 tentialmpactsn residents. 5018 02:31:01,557 --> 02:31:02,277 We c 5019 02:31:02,277 --> 02:31:04,277 t dohat withinhe 5020 02:31:05,913 --> 02:31:07,149 scope on iep. I alsoave 5021 02:31:07,149 --> 02:31:09,283 some ccern abo t 5022 02:31:09,283 --> 02:31:11,186 chilrs andhe pns. You 5023 02:31:11,186 --> 02:31:14,186 kn, the eventual conceptf a 5024 02:31:14,589 --> 02:31:16,589 pl ofxpanngo 8 or 9 5025 02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:18,425 permit chiers.Ounow, the 5026 02:31:18,425 --> 02:31:21,425 the applica has sted, wl, 5027 02:31:21,730 --> 02:31:23,798 ere werehree old one or 5028 02:31:23,798 --> 02:31:26,100 9 new one whi are more 5029 02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:27,902 efficient aoss the boa. 5030 02:31:27,902 --> 02:31:30,372 Ceainly I ter of the btu 5031 02:31:30,372 --> 02:31:31,840 of cooli tha the produce. 5032 02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:33,908 And it to me,t begs t 5033 02:31:33,908 --> 02:31:36,243 question,hiss not a 5034 02:31:36,243 --> 02:31:38,112 replacemt o an exiing u. 5035 02:31:38,112 --> 02:31:39,414 It is a veryroadxpanon. I 5036 02:31:39,414 --> 02:31:41,348 me, ateast a thr times 5037 02:31:41,348 --> 02:31:42,883 expansion in the terms of the 5038 02:31:42,883 --> 02:31:44,752 amount of activity that 5039 02:31:44,752 --> 02:31:46,654 takinglace bause w els 5040 02:31:46,654 --> 02:31:48,956 wouldou nd at lst three 5041 02:31:48,956 --> 02:31:51,192 times a much BTUs of coong 5042 02:31:51,192 --> 02:31:53,600 capacity? So I he questions 5043 02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:53,694 abou tt. I, I don 5044 02:31:53,694 --> 02:31:55,463 t s this 5045 02:31:55,463 --> 02:31:56,764 as jt aeplament o 5046 02:31:56,764 --> 02:31:58,632 existing equipment. At thend 5047 02:31:58,632 --> 02:32:00,434 of theay, it is aeryroad 5048 02:32:00,434 --> 02:32:02,270 expansion of wha shoulden 5049 02:32:02,270 --> 02:32:04,670 acssor use Itmoun to 5050 02:32:05,339 --> 02:32:07,739 fundamental change ihe t 5051 02:32:08,420 --> 02:32:10,277 peitted lan use,nd f 5052 02:32:10,277 --> 02:32:13,877 the rsons, I, I suprt t 5053 02:32:17,785 --> 02:32:18,553 motion. Yeah. And mea the 5054 02:32:18,553 --> 02:32:20,188 last thing is. 5055 02:32:20,188 --> 02:32:20,754 I 5056 02:32:20,754 --> 02:32:21,790 Again,t 5057 02:32:21,790 --> 02:32:23,225 s beyd the sco of 5058 02:32:23,225 --> 02:32:23,892 e conversation tonht. B 5059 02:32:23,892 --> 02:32:24,254 butnef the thing w 5060 02:32:24,254 --> 02:32:26,254 ll 5061 02:32:26,394 --> 02:32:28,396 ve t talk aut I t sdy 5062 02:32:28,396 --> 02:32:30,899 about dat centers in geral 5063 02:32:30,899 --> 02:32:32,300 is t difference between 5064 02:32:32,300 --> 02:32:34,302 aditnal dat cters which 5065 02:32:34,302 --> 02:32:36,605 for for srage, wch are sort 5066 02:32:36,605 --> 02:32:39,106 of akin to a room fl of 5067 02:32:39,106 --> 02:32:40,709 ling cabinets,ounow,his 5068 02:32:40,709 --> 02:32:43,879 facility was built in the 80s, 5069 02:32:43,879 --> 02:32:44,880 I think, younow, I spent 5070 02:32:44,880 --> 02:32:47,280 couple of sumrs worng 5071 02:32:47,415 --> 02:32:49,170 asmbly at ibm I Rochester, 5072 02:32:49,170 --> 02:32:50,850 d I know whaype of srage 5073 02:32:50,850 --> 02:32:52,287 ings they were ung bk 5074 02:32:52,287 --> 02:32:53,221 th. Y know, the wer 5075 02:32:53,221 --> 02:32:53,491 t 5076 02:32:53,491 --> 02:32:55,491 what 5077 02:32:55,657 --> 02:32:56,892 seing ud today.Ou 5078 02:32:56,892 --> 02:32:59,270 know conmers. You h the 5079 02:32:59,270 --> 02:33:01,427 biisk dris, and w 5080 02:33:01,429 --> 02:33:03,799 stil usi the the big 5.25i 5081 02:33:03,799 --> 02:33:05,834 oppies f entpris Those 5082 02:33:05,834 --> 02:33:06,802 uns had platters tt I mean, 5083 02:33:06,802 --> 02:33:09,838 these things we le the siz 5084 02:33:09,838 --> 02:33:11,940 of a disashe And the amount 5085 02:33:11,940 --> 02:33:12,174 data that they cou store 5086 02:33:12,174 --> 02:33:13,141 wasn 5087 02:33:13,141 --> 02:33:14,643 all that much in 5088 02:33:14,643 --> 02:33:15,143 comparison to today 5089 02:33:15,143 --> 02:33:16,411 s data 5090 02:33:16,411 --> 02:33:16,645 storage. B the 5091 02:33:16,645 --> 02:33:18,645 s a 5092 02:33:18,747 --> 02:33:20,215 fference beten aoom full 5093 02:33:20,215 --> 02:33:21,550 of electrocilin cabets 5094 02:33:21,550 --> 02:33:23,218 th people can reque and 5095 02:33:23,218 --> 02:33:25,154 retrievenfortionrom, and 5096 02:33:25,154 --> 02:33:25,955 compute. I don 5097 02:33:25,955 --> 02:33:27,423 t see tt as an 5098 02:33:27,423 --> 02:33:27,667 accessory storage use. It 5099 02:33:27,667 --> 02:33:29,667 s 5100 02:33:31,260 --> 02:33:31,827 more of aanufacturingrocess, 5101 02:33:31,827 --> 02:33:33,462 whh I 5102 02:33:33,462 --> 02:33:36,462 m not sure a conrsio 5103 02:33:36,464 --> 02:33:37,732 of use from r&d to that type o 5104 02:33:37,732 --> 02:33:38,660 proces is appropria. B 5105 02:33:38,660 --> 02:33:39,402 agn,hat 5106 02:33:39,402 --> 02:33:40,536 s beyon the scope 5107 02:33:40,536 --> 02:33:40,763 of t conversation tonht. 5108 02:33:40,763 --> 02:33:41,360 It 5109 02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:41,337 something we 5110 02:33:41,337 --> 02:33:43,337 re gng to 5111 02:33:45,740 --> 02:33:47,576 ha toook into. A the 5112 02:33:47,576 --> 02:33:48,343 rticular use you know, at 5113 02:33:48,343 --> 02:33:49,479 some pointt 5114 02:33:49,479 --> 02:33:51,479 s going toatte 5115 02:33:52,582 --> 02:33:55,582 at exactly is bng renred. 5116 02:33:56,485 --> 02:33:58,353 Causf the, the sversr 5117 02:33:58,353 --> 02:33:59,821 the the comte cluers being 5118 02:33:59,821 --> 02:34:01,990 hostedn site b whater 5119 02:34:01,990 --> 02:34:03,258 compy are recving recving 5120 02:34:03,258 --> 02:34:06,258 requests for cerin types of 5121 02:34:07,395 --> 02:34:08,998 material a tn are served 5122 02:34:08,998 --> 02:34:09,699 t to ping cusmers it 5123 02:34:09,699 --> 02:34:10,765 s 5124 02:34:10,765 --> 02:34:11,867 quite posble tt some of 5125 02:34:11,867 --> 02:34:13,202 these facilits cld fall 5126 02:34:13,202 --> 02:34:14,704 in the categor of a adult 5127 02:34:14,704 --> 02:34:14,904 use facilit and. 5128 02:34:14,904 --> 02:34:15,270 Ere 5129 02:34:15,270 --> 02:34:17,270 s a. 5130 02:34:17,873 --> 02:34:19,873 Whole saratet of 5131 02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:21,276 rerictions that app to 5132 02:34:21,276 --> 02:34:23,276 placeshat dohat sortf 5133 02:34:23,411 --> 02:34:23,845 thing. So I don 5134 02:34:23,845 --> 02:34:25,581 tave any 5135 02:34:25,581 --> 02:34:25,876 answs for tha tight. But 5136 02:34:25,876 --> 02:34:26,716 that 5137 02:34:26,716 --> 02:34:28,484 s y another thi that 5138 02:34:28,484 --> 02:34:29,719 ll need t lk at, because 5139 02:34:29,719 --> 02:34:31,521 for tho tes ofacilies, 5140 02:34:31,521 --> 02:34:32,989 therere scing ruirements 5141 02:34:32,989 --> 02:34:33,789 om residential properties and 5142 02:34:33,789 --> 02:34:35,230 aumbe of other, younow, 5143 02:34:35,230 --> 02:34:36,892 rerictns oquareoota 5144 02:34:36,892 --> 02:34:38,327 at c be dedicatedo it. 5145 02:34:38,327 --> 02:34:40,960 They mayr MAY not apply in 5146 02:34:40,960 --> 02:34:40,487 the future toata cenrs. But 5147 02:34:40,487 --> 02:34:41,620 there 5148 02:34:41,620 --> 02:34:43,620 s aifferenceetwe 5149 02:34:43,999 --> 02:34:44,833 store and comte. So thank 5150 02:34:44,833 --> 02:34:47,136 you for indulng me. He 5151 02:34:47,136 --> 02:34:48,136 settled. B at the end of the 5152 02:34:48,136 --> 02:34:49,539 y, Ion 5153 02:34:49,539 --> 02:34:50,206 t sport theup 5154 02:34:50,206 --> 02:34:51,641 cause. 5155 02:34:51,641 --> 02:34:53,641 It it. 5156 02:34:53,775 --> 02:34:56,712 Seems to me le a aackdr 5157 02:34:56,712 --> 02:34:57,209 way of affecting a landse 5158 02:34:57,209 --> 02:34:57,913 chge that 5159 02:34:57,913 --> 02:34:59,913 s mor appropria 5160 02:35:02,251 --> 02:35:02,718 fo a zoningr guidehang. 5161 02:35:02,718 --> 02:35:03,820 Gue I 5162 02:35:03,820 --> 02:35:04,353 ll I 5163 02:35:04,353 --> 02:35:04,854 ll mak a few 5164 02:35:04,854 --> 02:35:05,183 comments. I don 5165 02:35:05,183 --> 02:35:07,183 t I don 5166 02:35:07,857 --> 02:35:10,257 necearil meanorap it up, 5167 02:35:12,261 --> 02:35:12,717 d I welcome all the cment, 5168 02:35:12,717 --> 02:35:13,261 t I 5169 02:35:13,261 --> 02:35:15,164 ll speak t a couplef 5170 02:35:15,164 --> 02:35:16,666 differentssue Andnd I 5171 02:35:16,666 --> 02:35:19,569 nt to say,irst off, MR. 5172 02:35:19,569 --> 02:35:21,671 Rgol, I a lotf tngs I 5173 02:35:21,671 --> 02:35:23,500 disagree with y on yr self 5174 02:35:23,500 --> 02:35:24,340 characteritionstupid is 5175 02:35:24,340 --> 02:35:24,902 onef tm. Don 5176 02:35:24,902 --> 02:35:25,380 think 5177 02:35:25,380 --> 02:35:26,876 you 5178 02:35:26,876 --> 02:35:27,390 re stupid at a. I think 5179 02:35:27,390 --> 02:35:29,390 you 5180 02:35:29,779 --> 02:35:30,847 re qte ielligent and 5181 02:35:30,847 --> 02:35:31,747 and I appreciate that. So I 5182 02:35:31,747 --> 02:35:34,747 just want toorre the recd 5183 02:35:39,822 --> 02:35:40,564 on thatne. The I thinkhere 5184 02:35:40,564 --> 02:35:41,116 arewossues and the 5185 02:35:41,116 --> 02:35:42,493 s one 5186 02:35:42,493 --> 02:35:43,170 the table, buthere 5187 02:35:43,170 --> 02:35:44,994 s a 5188 02:35:44,994 --> 02:35:45,640 rger issue at hand that that 5189 02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:46,176 it 5190 02:35:46,176 --> 02:35:46,863 s n part of the motn 5191 02:35:46,863 --> 02:35:48,998 ghtow. But I wld like t 5192 02:35:48,998 --> 02:35:51,998 council to enttain the notion 5193 02:35:53,704 --> 02:35:55,905 of ging se direction on the 5194 02:35:55,905 --> 02:35:56,906 application for theermant 5195 02:35:56,906 --> 02:35:59,306 aile thatre I frontf 5196 02:36:00,510 --> 02:36:01,900 us. But on the iup, I 5197 02:36:01,900 --> 02:36:03,900 ll start 5198 02:36:03,113 --> 02:36:06,113 there, I gue, and then 5199 02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:11,840 ogre on scifio the iup. 5200 02:36:14,190 --> 02:36:16,590 Upportive of denl in 5201 02:36:20,930 --> 02:36:22,930 part, I largeartecause. 5202 02:36:25,835 --> 02:36:28,835 The Iind the presentatn of 5203 02:36:30,339 --> 02:36:33,939 the nse stu to b confusing 5204 02:36:34,144 --> 02:36:34,537 d incomplete, and the 5205 02:36:34,537 --> 02:36:35,912 applicant 5206 02:36:35,912 --> 02:36:37,614 s flure t be ae 5207 02:36:37,614 --> 02:36:39,615 to asko awer questio 5208 02:36:39,615 --> 02:36:42,615 abt howhat study was done 5209 02:36:42,820 --> 02:36:46,420 on a technic lev,oes not 5210 02:36:47,456 --> 02:36:50,526 see the iup and theix mon 5211 02:36:50,526 --> 02:36:50,805 term. I know tt the 5212 02:36:50,805 --> 02:36:52,229 s some 5213 02:36:52,229 --> 02:36:54,229 disaeement on whatxactly 5214 02:36:54,431 --> 02:36:55,765 was de in ter of the noi 5215 02:36:55,765 --> 02:36:56,399 sties, and Ion 5216 02:36:56,399 --> 02:36:56,749 t knowhat 5217 02:36:56,749 --> 02:36:58,749 we 5218 02:36:58,936 --> 02:36:59,176 ll get there.Ut fm 5219 02:36:59,176 --> 02:37:01,176 what 5220 02:37:01,505 --> 02:37:02,500 s bnresented and 5221 02:37:02,500 --> 02:37:04,500 what 5222 02:37:04,340 --> 02:37:06,175 able tomment on, I 5223 02:37:06,175 --> 02:37:08,778 ha a baseline stu that 5224 02:37:08,778 --> 02:37:11,178 takes int consideration a 24 5225 02:37:11,949 --> 02:37:12,416 ur perd and docents or 5226 02:37:12,416 --> 02:37:14,416 mols. I 5227 02:37:14,551 --> 02:37:16,551 n sure which 5228 02:37:16,854 --> 02:37:19,254 anticipated nse lels for 5229 02:37:19,623 --> 02:37:22,230 th entire 24 hr period 5230 02:37:25,950 --> 02:37:26,497 befohand. Ithenuts u, 5231 02:37:26,497 --> 02:37:26,937 and for tse of you who 5232 02:37:26,937 --> 02:37:27,798 ven 5233 02:37:27,798 --> 02:37:29,166 t seent in t 5234 02:37:29,166 --> 02:37:29,505 materials I prent, there 5235 02:37:29,505 --> 02:37:30,901 s a 5236 02:37:30,901 --> 02:37:32,802 wholeot of discussn witn 5237 02:37:32,802 --> 02:37:34,802 the withinhe studiesnhe 5238 02:37:35,500 --> 02:37:36,273 pact ofeather, o the 5239 02:37:36,273 --> 02:37:38,400 movement of noise through t 5240 02:37:38,400 --> 02:37:39,143 air. I 5241 02:37:39,143 --> 02:37:39,646 a liberalrts major. 5242 02:37:39,646 --> 02:37:41,645 I d 5243 02:37:41,645 --> 02:37:42,679 t get mos of it,ut 5244 02:37:42,679 --> 02:37:44,679 appantly weaer has 5245 02:37:49,686 --> 02:37:52,860 somethin too withhis. The 5246 02:37:53,724 --> 02:37:56,627 sty o the other side is 5247 02:37:56,627 --> 02:37:59,960 designed to, in my estimatio 5248 02:37:59,960 --> 02:38:01,496 cherry pic anour beten 3 5249 02:38:02,466 --> 02:38:05,466 and in theorning when its 5250 02:38:08,705 --> 02:38:09,439 40 m 40s, up. And m ccern 5251 02:38:09,439 --> 02:38:11,341 is, I don 5252 02:38:11,341 --> 02:38:13,645 t know how that 5253 02:38:13,645 --> 02:38:15,546 weather cditionpeaks tohe 5254 02:38:15,546 --> 02:38:17,546 velf operationf t 5255 02:38:20,830 --> 02:38:22,483 chille. Four mths fromow, 5256 02:38:22,553 --> 02:38:25,553 in Jun oruly, whatever, four 5257 02:38:27,658 --> 02:38:30,658 months from n is a 5258 02:38:32,563 --> 02:38:34,963 mperures that aren the 5259 02:38:36,467 --> 02:38:38,635 s overnight, maybe even in 5260 02:38:38,635 --> 02:38:40,635 e 8, overnig, high 5261 02:38:41,438 --> 02:38:43,438 humidity cditions. Aven 5262 02:38:44,107 --> 02:38:46,107 though theeportpeak toow 5263 02:38:47,845 --> 02:38:48,645 weatr can iact noise, 5264 02:38:48,645 --> 02:38:49,847 sending, it doe 5265 02:38:49,847 --> 02:38:51,782 t tal toow 5266 02:38:51,782 --> 02:38:53,830 variance withinhe chillers 5267 02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:55,385 uld afft t noise 5268 02:38:55,385 --> 02:38:57,880 decibels. So I find theoise 5269 02:38:57,880 --> 02:38:58,923 udy onhe backndo be 5270 02:38:58,923 --> 02:39:01,192 inadequate for bei able to 5271 02:39:01,192 --> 02:39:03,192 assuhathe public heah 5272 02:39:03,660 --> 02:39:05,562 and sety a welref the 5273 02:39:05,562 --> 02:39:07,962 nehborod would b protected 5274 02:39:08,565 --> 02:39:09,179 within the tms o t iup. S 5275 02:39:09,179 --> 02:39:10,502 fo me, that 5276 02:39:10,502 --> 02:39:11,930 s theasic rson 5277 02:39:11,930 --> 02:39:12,603 y I 5278 02:39:12,603 --> 02:39:15,603 mere to deny that and 5279 02:39:18,776 --> 02:39:21,176 why Iuppo denying it. 5280 02:39:25,617 --> 02:39:26,126 Beyond tha. I jus Ion 5281 02:39:26,126 --> 02:39:28,126 t 5282 02:39:29,119 --> 02:39:30,388 find the appachf the 5283 02:39:30,388 --> 02:39:32,788 applicant to b very 5284 02:39:33,657 --> 02:39:35,727 forthcomg or infortive a 5285 02:39:35,727 --> 02:39:37,262 I arecie tt folks learned 5286 02:39:37,262 --> 02:39:37,814 om som of my questions 5287 02:39:37,814 --> 02:39:38,432 tonit. Don 5288 02:39:38,432 --> 02:39:39,697 teel like I 5289 02:39:39,697 --> 02:39:40,204 learnedhole lot, because I 5290 02:39:40,204 --> 02:39:42,204 di 5291 02:39:42,567 --> 02:39:44,134 t feel like was getng 5292 02:39:44,134 --> 02:39:46,534 very clear or forthcoming 5293 02:39:48,706 --> 02:39:51,706 swer and, younow, I, I 5294 02:39:53,440 --> 02:39:55,444 think tt the rhetocalrick 5295 02:39:57,949 --> 02:40:00,349 trying to ce a. 5296 02:40:00,984 --> 02:40:03,984 Certificate of occupancy as the 5297 02:40:05,390 --> 02:40:07,390 contllingntitlement to land 5298 02:40:07,425 --> 02:40:10,280 that is carly already guided 5299 02:40:10,280 --> 02:40:12,430 an zoned for aurpose that 5300 02:40:12,430 --> 02:40:15,366 allows a dataenter toe an 5301 02:40:15,366 --> 02:40:17,766 accessorot a pmary use, 5302 02:40:18,169 --> 02:40:18,937 specis.Nd I 5303 02:40:18,937 --> 02:40:20,937 m not 5304 02:40:21,172 --> 02:40:23,241 inrest in bei suprtive 5305 02:40:23,241 --> 02:40:25,477 of that. I mean, I think it is 5306 02:40:25,477 --> 02:40:27,145 clear to me at least, that 5307 02:40:27,145 --> 02:40:29,948 there is a sigfica amount 5308 02:40:29,948 --> 02:40:32,948 of due digen that the 5309 02:40:34,385 --> 02:40:35,987 applicant could have deo 5310 02:40:35,987 --> 02:40:38,289 follow u onhat theyanted 5311 02:40:38,289 --> 02:40:41,793 to do I terms of addhillers 5312 02:40:41,793 --> 02:40:43,793 and usehepace asata 5313 02:40:44,195 --> 02:40:45,864 nterhief among tm wld 5314 02:40:45,864 --> 02:40:47,699 o thrgh the ordiny 5315 02:40:47,699 --> 02:40:50,702 press of hing the lan we 5316 02:40:50,702 --> 02:40:52,470 guided and rezed. To do tt, 5317 02:40:52,470 --> 02:40:55,406 u put anpplition in with 5318 02:40:55,406 --> 02:40:56,941 the cit Weome up with 5319 02:40:56,941 --> 02:40:57,288 th a approach to wheth or 5320 02:40:57,288 --> 02:40:58,977 note 5321 02:40:58,977 --> 02:41:02,577 re going to d that, and 5322 02:41:03,681 --> 02:41:06,810 alanor the site. The 5323 02:41:07,850 --> 02:41:09,485 emergenc of temporary cllers 5324 02:41:10,722 --> 02:41:13,124 to replace a stem. But then a 5325 02:41:13,124 --> 02:41:15,124 further o uetermined 5326 02:41:15,994 --> 02:41:17,595 permanent structure to come 5327 02:41:17,595 --> 02:41:19,464 And not knowing what the 5328 02:41:19,464 --> 02:41:21,464 decisionakin is between 5329 02:41:25,904 --> 02:41:27,380 thos two, to me,s jus. Not 5330 02:41:27,380 --> 02:41:27,739 aood represeatio o the 5331 02:41:27,739 --> 02:41:29,739 e digencehat 5332 02:41:30,341 --> 02:41:31,843 s reqred. 5333 02:41:31,843 --> 02:41:34,246 U know,he moratorm that 5334 02:41:34,246 --> 02:41:36,916 apted is for a ver 5335 02:41:36,916 --> 02:41:38,717 ecifype of dat center, 5336 02:41:38,717 --> 02:41:40,717 which, und crent 5337 02:41:41,519 --> 02:41:43,519 ciumstance, asn aesso, 5338 02:41:43,956 --> 02:41:46,592 us, ts property wou fit 5339 02:41:46,592 --> 02:41:48,527 in, would fit int The problem. 5340 02:41:48,527 --> 02:41:50,261 Is ty 5341 02:41:50,261 --> 02:41:51,497 reot using it as an 5342 02:41:51,497 --> 02:41:52,198 cessyse. They 5343 02:41:52,198 --> 02:41:54,320 making 5344 02:41:54,320 --> 02:41:55,267 no bonbout the ft tha 5345 02:41:55,267 --> 02:41:56,702 they think theyough a data 5346 02:41:56,702 --> 02:41:57,368 center, that they 5347 02:41:57,368 --> 02:41:58,837 orating 5348 02:41:58,837 --> 02:41:59,244 it as a data center, that 5349 02:41:59,244 --> 02:42:00,139 that 5350 02:42:00,139 --> 02:42:01,173 s t priry use of the 5351 02:42:01,173 --> 02:42:01,706 data cenr.Hey don 5352 02:42:01,706 --> 02:42:02,775 tven 5353 02:42:02,775 --> 02:42:03,542 pretend that there 5354 02:42:03,542 --> 02:42:05,411 anyffic 5355 02:42:05,411 --> 02:42:05,760 us to it. The jus say it 5356 02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:07,412 s a 5357 02:42:07,412 --> 02:42:07,765 data cter bause we say it 5358 02:42:07,765 --> 02:42:09,765 s 5359 02:42:11,583 --> 02:42:11,867 aata cente bas on ceo. 5360 02:42:11,867 --> 02:42:13,867 It 5361 02:42:14,620 --> 02:42:16,387 s n a data center.T w 5362 02:42:16,387 --> 02:42:18,787 neve operateds a da 5363 02:42:19,230 --> 02:42:20,593 nter. It was opetedith a 5364 02:42:20,593 --> 02:42:22,993 data center int asn 5365 02:42:24,396 --> 02:42:25,865 accessy, not primary use. 5366 02:42:25,865 --> 02:42:28,800 The land that ty are on right 5367 02:42:28,800 --> 02:42:31,402 no isot is notntitd t 5368 02:42:31,402 --> 02:42:34,640 be a standale or primary u 5369 02:42:34,640 --> 02:42:36,809 data cenr. S that exten 5370 02:42:36,809 --> 02:42:40,409 I just fd the, the thehe, 5371 02:42:43,381 --> 02:42:44,516 e, the applicants to be. N 5372 02:42:44,516 --> 02:42:45,718 doing the due dilence 5373 02:42:45,718 --> 02:42:46,519 because tir due digen 5374 02:42:46,519 --> 02:42:47,500 would get tmnswers ty 5375 02:42:47,500 --> 02:42:49,500 don 5376 02:42:51,557 --> 02:42:53,425 tike. My suggestion is 5377 02:42:53,425 --> 02:42:54,927 that in additn t voting 5378 02:42:54,927 --> 02:42:56,428 agains the iup, which I plan 5379 02:42:56,428 --> 02:42:57,563 to do, I 5380 02:42:57,563 --> 02:42:59,963 d likeo talk aut 5381 02:43:01,634 --> 02:43:04,436 givi direction to sff that 5382 02:43:04,436 --> 02:43:06,105 at we notpprove the 5383 02:43:06,105 --> 02:43:07,940 rmanent cllers on 5384 02:43:07,940 --> 02:43:09,809 construction level unt and 5385 02:43:09,809 --> 02:43:12,144 less it I part o an 5386 02:43:12,144 --> 02:43:14,144 applicatn for chaen 5387 02:43:15,347 --> 02:43:16,849 landse.Ndt that pnt,e 5388 02:43:16,849 --> 02:43:18,784 can conside both the change in 5389 02:43:18,784 --> 02:43:20,786 nd use and the permanent 5390 02:43:20,786 --> 02:43:22,154 consuction of sce f 5391 02:43:22,154 --> 02:43:23,756 chilrsn the same 5392 02:43:23,756 --> 02:43:24,175 conversati. Andhat 5393 02:43:24,175 --> 02:43:25,825 s the 5394 02:43:25,825 --> 02:43:26,278 y it shoule, and tt 5395 02:43:26,278 --> 02:43:27,594 s 5396 02:43:27,594 --> 02:43:30,620 e w the process usually 5397 02:43:30,620 --> 02:43:30,564 work I am not I 5398 02:43:30,564 --> 02:43:30,938 going to 5399 02:43:30,938 --> 02:43:31,564 I 5400 02:43:31,564 --> 02:43:33,766 m gng t loop backow to 5401 02:43:33,766 --> 02:43:36,769 e I. I amot interesd in 5402 02:43:36,769 --> 02:43:38,138 taking upr. Margoli onhe 5403 02:43:38,138 --> 02:43:40,439 ggeson tt we d more 5404 02:43:40,439 --> 02:43:42,242 study, because w areere, 5405 02:43:42,242 --> 02:43:43,175 beuse theyoveorwa with 5406 02:43:43,175 --> 02:43:43,776 a plan that wasn 5407 02:43:43,776 --> 02:43:44,543 t fully 5408 02:43:44,543 --> 02:43:45,344 thought o, wn 5409 02:43:45,344 --> 02:43:46,479 t fly 5410 02:43:46,479 --> 02:43:50,790 clear, a I thi they did 5411 02:43:50,983 --> 02:43:53,219 do I in good faith. And and to 5412 02:43:53,219 --> 02:43:55,288 that exten extending o this 5413 02:43:55,288 --> 02:43:57,288 convsation and further 5414 02:43:57,524 --> 02:43:59,392 rdening t neighborhood s 5415 02:43:59,392 --> 02:44:01,392 thatheyanontinue to ski 5416 02:44:01,394 --> 02:44:02,962 and go around thedges of 5417 02:44:02,962 --> 02:44:03,434 regulations is not something 5418 02:44:03,434 --> 02:44:04,731 I 5419 02:44:04,731 --> 02:44:06,650 m intertedn doing.E 5420 02:44:06,650 --> 02:44:07,968 haveeenlaying ges on this 5421 02:44:07,968 --> 02:44:09,100 si for upwards of tee 5422 02:44:09,100 --> 02:44:09,554 mohs rht now. I 5423 02:44:09,554 --> 02:44:11,554 m not 5424 02:44:11,805 --> 02:44:13,139 intereed in another three 5425 02:44:13,139 --> 02:44:13,686 months oflayi games and 5426 02:44:13,686 --> 02:44:14,313 I 5427 02:44:14,313 --> 02:44:16,676 m n interested in going 5428 02:44:16,676 --> 02:44:17,335 throughhis discuion again 5429 02:44:17,335 --> 02:44:18,310 unless I 5430 02:44:18,310 --> 02:44:20,313 s in the ctextf 5431 02:44:20,313 --> 02:44:21,882 being forthcoming and in gd 5432 02:44:21,882 --> 02:44:24,117 faith abo wt thentend 5433 02:44:24,117 --> 02:44:27,117 landse is. N. At some 5434 02:44:29,588 --> 02:44:31,725 point, repcing t cooling 5435 02:44:31,725 --> 02:44:34,528 syem on the blding require 5436 02:44:34,528 --> 02:44:35,662 r cller Threef which 5437 02:44:35,662 --> 02:44:36,328 were going to b orational, 5438 02:44:36,328 --> 02:44:36,930 one of whichasn 5439 02:44:36,930 --> 02:44:37,796 toing to be 5440 02:44:37,796 --> 02:44:39,698 erational, I was going to 5441 02:44:39,698 --> 02:44:40,166 serve as a bkup. Now, what 5442 02:44:40,166 --> 02:44:42,166 I 5443 02:44:43,236 --> 02:44:46,606 m told is we want to go to 5444 02:44:46,606 --> 02:44:47,404 uble that.T tt point, 5445 02:44:47,404 --> 02:44:48,820 you 5446 02:44:48,820 --> 02:44:49,441 re no longereplacing a 5447 02:44:49,441 --> 02:44:51,841 coolg system. Y are 5448 02:44:52,379 --> 02:44:53,946 expanding a cooli systeow 5449 02:44:53,946 --> 02:44:54,540 what the level of expansi I 5450 02:44:54,540 --> 02:44:55,183 Ion 5451 02:44:55,183 --> 02:44:55,807 t know,ecausehe 5452 02:44:55,807 --> 02:44:56,499 applicant hn 5453 02:44:56,499 --> 02:44:58,499 t fthcong o 5454 02:45:00,860 --> 02:45:01,555 that. But uil we knownd we 5455 02:45:01,555 --> 02:45:02,141 have clearer sense of that, 5456 02:45:02,141 --> 02:45:02,792 I 5457 02:45:02,792 --> 02:45:04,257 not intereste ineein 5458 02:45:04,257 --> 02:45:06,657 thepprol on the pernent 5459 02:45:07,694 --> 02:45:08,262 permit eitr. So Cncil, I, 5460 02:45:08,262 --> 02:45:10,262 I 5461 02:45:10,796 --> 02:45:12,165 d throw tt u for you as a, 5462 02:45:12,165 --> 02:45:13,466 as a discuion pnt in 5463 02:45:13,466 --> 02:45:14,634 dition to the mion onhe 5464 02:45:14,634 --> 02:45:15,232 table. S Cncilmber 5465 02:45:15,232 --> 02:45:16,436 Babbitt. 5466 02:45:16,436 --> 02:45:17,771 Thank 5467 02:45:17,771 --> 02:45:18,805 Mar thathat that wld lead 5468 02:45:18,805 --> 02:45:21,374 a question for our cit 5469 02:45:21,374 --> 02:45:23,643 attoey if weould want to 5470 02:45:23,643 --> 02:45:25,879 give direction to sff to hold 5471 02:45:25,879 --> 02:45:27,247 of on arovalf the the 5472 02:45:27,247 --> 02:45:29,583 permanent pmit,nless it 5473 02:45:29,583 --> 02:45:32,486 cos to us as a part of a lan 5474 02:45:32,486 --> 02:45:33,720 use chae reque, would that 5475 02:45:33,720 --> 02:45:35,388 a sarate mion? 5476 02:45:35,388 --> 02:45:37,724 MR. MAY? COUNCILMAN?Es, 5477 02:45:37,724 --> 02:45:40,124 that woulde we. Staffoes 5478 02:45:41,161 --> 02:45:43,630 needirection on it is seems a 5479 02:45:43,630 --> 02:45:45,398 little usual to when when 5480 02:45:45,398 --> 02:45:48,201 three word to applyor for 5481 02:45:48,201 --> 02:45:50,704 ght and we need decti 5482 02:45:50,704 --> 02:45:52,600 from council as to wheere 5483 02:45:52,600 --> 02:45:54,407 should we be processing this. 5484 02:45:54,407 --> 02:45:56,209 Shoulde a forore data on. 5485 02:45:56,209 --> 02:45:58,609 Ishisnly going to sve 5486 02:45:58,712 --> 02:46:01,712 ur neegawatt, or is it 5487 02:46:01,782 --> 02:46:02,218 conserve 3w? Thesere things 5488 02:46:02,218 --> 02:46:03,284 weon 5489 02:46:03,284 --> 02:46:03,917 t knond think in 5490 02:46:03,917 --> 02:46:04,518 lit o what w 5491 02:46:04,518 --> 02:46:06,419 re heari 5492 02:46:06,419 --> 02:46:08,890 nighhat it it 5493 02:46:08,890 --> 02:46:09,223 s seems the 5494 02:46:09,223 --> 02:46:11,526 wi ofhe council that ts 5495 02:46:11,526 --> 02:46:13,193 is a lan use change, not a 5496 02:46:13,193 --> 02:46:14,162 interim u permit change or 5497 02:46:14,162 --> 02:46:15,930 applicatn, evehough that 5498 02:46:15,930 --> 02:46:16,997 what before you. Soes, we 5499 02:46:16,997 --> 02:46:18,640 would likeome directi. It 5500 02:46:18,640 --> 02:46:19,132 wod be a sepate actio 5501 02:46:19,132 --> 02:46:21,340 item 5502 02:46:21,340 --> 02:46:23,340 Okay. 5503 02:46:24,104 --> 02:46:25,438 Io I hav to we haveo do 5504 02:46:25,438 --> 02:46:27,400 weaveo clearhe table of 5505 02:46:27,400 --> 02:46:27,518 e original motion. Yes MR. 5506 02:46:27,518 --> 02:46:28,875 Yor. 5507 02:46:28,875 --> 02:46:30,875 Sounds goo 5508 02:46:31,912 --> 02:46:32,946 So MAY couil I w want t 5509 02:46:32,946 --> 02:46:35,516 if we have aitiol commes 5510 02:46:35,516 --> 02:46:35,942 he and thee 5511 02:46:35,942 --> 02:46:36,393 ll come 5512 02:46:36,393 --> 02:46:36,768 backnd I 5513 02:46:36,768 --> 02:46:37,718 ll mak aotion on 5514 02:46:37,718 --> 02:46:38,952 directionfterwards. 5515 02:46:38,952 --> 02:46:40,153 Anr. Mayorust poi of 5516 02:46:40,153 --> 02:46:41,955 arifation. Theotion me 5517 02:46:41,955 --> 02:46:43,955 s t approvef. 5518 02:46:45,826 --> 02:46:46,593 Wenow to dy. Doe. 5519 02:46:46,593 --> 02:46:48,593 Do we nottart. 5520 02:46:48,728 --> 02:46:49,397 With simar t me to dhat. 5521 02:46:49,397 --> 02:46:50,900 Planning Comssior. 5522 02:46:50,900 --> 02:46:50,578 We d 5523 02:46:50,578 --> 02:46:51,832 t do tha here. N 5524 02:46:51,832 --> 02:46:53,568 Okay. You he the oion 5525 02:46:53,568 --> 02:46:55,636 eier to arove o to direct 5526 02:46:55,636 --> 02:46:56,970 our offic to ppare finngs. 5527 02:46:56,970 --> 02:46:58,372 Okay. Tt was t mion I to 5528 02:46:58,372 --> 02:46:59,306 epar findings of denl tha 5529 02:46:59,306 --> 02:47:00,400 would beonsired aour 5530 02:47:00,400 --> 02:47:02,400 next meeng. 5531 02:47:02,676 --> 02:47:04,745 And athis point, Bob, from 5532 02:47:04,745 --> 02:47:06,948 the conversatio you hav the 5533 02:47:06,948 --> 02:47:08,850 the basically Joe,ou needo 5534 02:47:08,850 --> 02:47:09,984 to draft those fding 5535 02:47:09,984 --> 02:47:12,384 Yes,r. Mayor, okay. 5536 02:47:13,287 --> 02:47:14,689 Soundsood. Councmemb. 5537 02:47:14,689 --> 02:47:16,890 And I 5538 02:47:16,890 --> 02:47:18,890 aaysangeus to 5539 02:47:18,292 --> 02:47:19,459 try t follow the mayor becse 5540 02:47:19,459 --> 02:47:21,162 he saidverying thaeeds 5541 02:47:21,162 --> 02:47:22,964 toe said. 5542 02:47:22,964 --> 02:47:23,585 I w well, eveuall I he 5543 02:47:23,585 --> 02:47:24,799 torite 5544 02:47:24,799 --> 02:47:25,499 I wiligently taking notes 5545 02:47:25,499 --> 02:47:27,101 all the w tough the 5546 02:47:27,101 --> 02:47:28,369 scussion, ande stolell my 5547 02:47:28,369 --> 02:47:28,930 under. S. 5548 02:47:28,930 --> 02:47:30,930 Sorry. 5549 02:47:33,908 --> 02:47:34,345 Oh, so wl just s that 5550 02:47:34,345 --> 02:47:34,975 there 5551 02:47:34,975 --> 02:47:36,710 s a fdamental 5552 02:47:36,710 --> 02:47:38,112 differen in how t the 5553 02:47:38,112 --> 02:47:39,280 plicant vws thi property 5554 02:47:39,280 --> 02:47:42,280 as comred to hhe city 5555 02:47:43,451 --> 02:47:44,104 does. You kno and so Ihink 5556 02:47:44,104 --> 02:47:45,386 whate 5557 02:47:45,386 --> 02:47:46,888 re lefith is some 5558 02:47:46,888 --> 02:47:48,322 unss we c do som thingso 5559 02:47:48,322 --> 02:47:48,952 help crify t future o this 5560 02:47:48,952 --> 02:47:49,484 operty. We 5561 02:47:49,484 --> 02:47:50,291 ve got some 5562 02:47:50,291 --> 02:47:53,600 uncertainty tonight. S I hope 5563 02:47:53,600 --> 02:47:54,829 wean workhose out. A so 5564 02:47:54,829 --> 02:47:55,997 justay I appreciate all t 5565 02:47:55,997 --> 02:47:58,199 comments tt wereade. We 5566 02:47:58,199 --> 02:48:00,340 heard your ccern about t 5567 02:48:00,340 --> 02:48:01,435 imct onn theeighrhood, 5568 02:48:01,435 --> 02:48:03,700 the peopl in the area, 5569 02:48:03,700 --> 02:48:05,700 tentl impacn pubc 5570 02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:08,210 heal. And I just tnk that 5571 02:48:08,210 --> 02:48:10,311 at we heard tonight is really 5572 02:48:10,311 --> 02:48:12,246 no consisten with the vion 5573 02:48:12,246 --> 02:48:14,183 th we have for that area. And 5574 02:48:14,183 --> 02:48:15,850 I also will supporthe 5575 02:48:15,850 --> 02:48:16,383 moti to deny. 5576 02:48:16,383 --> 02:48:16,942 East. 5577 02:48:16,942 --> 02:48:17,577 ing. 5578 02:48:17,577 --> 02:48:19,200 That 5579 02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:20,222 I jusant to me it 5580 02:48:20,222 --> 02:48:21,889 abdantlearhat the 5581 02:48:21,889 --> 02:48:22,857 coerns that raised abo a 5582 02:48:22,857 --> 02:48:24,759 poteialdult use 5583 02:48:24,759 --> 02:48:25,493 implicatio are ino way 5584 02:48:25,493 --> 02:48:25,904 informing the way I 5585 02:48:25,904 --> 02:48:27,329 votg 5586 02:48:27,329 --> 02:48:28,663 nigh has nothing to do wh 5587 02:48:28,663 --> 02:48:29,190 the iep request It 5588 02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:30,640 sust 5589 02:48:30,640 --> 02:48:31,400 most an interesting thought 5590 02:48:31,400 --> 02:48:33,670 exercise to baken io 5591 02:48:33,670 --> 02:48:34,302 conseratn in theonte of 5592 02:48:34,302 --> 02:48:34,770 e thetudy that 5593 02:48:34,770 --> 02:48:36,770 bng done 5594 02:48:37,238 --> 02:48:37,793 on the moratoriu So, Bob, 5595 02:48:37,793 --> 02:48:39,793 don 5596 02:48:40,442 --> 02:48:40,786 t incde that. 5597 02:48:40,786 --> 02:48:42,277 It doesn 5598 02:48:42,277 --> 02:48:43,644 matr without. 5599 02:48:43,644 --> 02:48:45,644 Y additiona comments 5600 02:48:46,381 --> 02:48:47,483 specific to the iup. 5601 02:48:47,483 --> 02:48:49,483 , oka 5602 02:48:50,850 --> 02:48:51,419 otion is made for t direct 5603 02:48:51,419 --> 02:48:53,522 findings oact forenial o 5604 02:48:53,522 --> 02:48:54,388 theup motn is me and 5605 02:48:54,388 --> 02:48:55,289 secoed. Tre are no 5606 02:48:55,289 --> 02:48:55,839 ditional comnts on tha 5607 02:48:55,839 --> 02:48:57,593 one. 5608 02:48:57,593 --> 02:48:59,127 Please.Hat are you dng? No, 5609 02:48:59,127 --> 02:48:59,794 . Wlhey. 5610 02:48:59,794 --> 02:49:00,207 They went wh. 5611 02:49:00,207 --> 02:49:02,207 On. 5612 02:49:02,598 --> 02:49:04,598 Ur reque. 5613 02:49:07,602 --> 02:49:09,304 The mion is toeny. 5614 02:49:09,304 --> 02:49:12,304 Thought y w dirting I 5615 02:49:12,874 --> 02:49:13,941 No no no no.O, 5616 02:49:13,941 --> 02:49:14,445 m sorry. 5617 02:49:14,445 --> 02:49:15,810 We 5618 02:49:15,810 --> 02:49:17,810 re good. Sorry. 5619 02:49:17,813 --> 02:49:19,681 Motion is madnd seconded on 5620 02:49:19,681 --> 02:49:20,883 the I. Are tre any more 5621 02:49:20,883 --> 02:49:21,617 comments on the iup? 5622 02:49:21,617 --> 02:49:22,884 No. 5623 02:49:22,884 --> 02:49:24,785 Eing non All in favor of 5624 02:49:24,785 --> 02:49:26,621 the motionor denl. Indice 5625 02:49:26,621 --> 02:49:28,523 by saying aye Aye a. And 5626 02:49:28,523 --> 02:49:30,523 oppose nay. Thaotion 5627 02:49:31,192 --> 02:49:31,670 carries. And, Bob we 5628 02:49:31,670 --> 02:49:32,627 ll b 5629 02:49:32,627 --> 02:49:34,929 lookin toou for fdings o 5630 02:49:34,929 --> 02:49:35,997 fact.Ome back. Councilmber 5631 02:49:35,997 --> 02:49:36,552 Hanson, if you 5632 02:49:36,552 --> 02:49:39,301 d le to make a 5633 02:49:39,301 --> 02:49:39,911 motion. Secondarily, 5634 02:49:39,911 --> 02:49:40,802 ll how 5635 02:49:40,802 --> 02:49:41,803 abouto that and not take 5636 02:49:41,803 --> 02:49:42,295 aw your thunder. 5637 02:49:42,295 --> 02:49:43,500 And 5638 02:49:43,500 --> 02:49:45,500 ll second it. 5639 02:49:45,207 --> 02:49:47,207 There y go. 5640 02:49:47,609 --> 02:49:48,810 Ok. Sous gd. Motion is 5641 02:49:48,810 --> 02:49:49,175 ma. Well,o. Why don 5642 02:49:49,175 --> 02:49:50,311 t y 5643 02:49:50,311 --> 02:49:52,114 make theotio Because I did. 5644 02:49:52,114 --> 02:49:53,182 Al I sd was make aotio 5645 02:49:53,182 --> 02:49:56,510 Do you want t me a motion in 5646 02:49:56,510 --> 02:49:57,586 term of direction to staff. 5647 02:49:57,586 --> 02:49:58,453 You he the wordi for 5648 02:49:58,453 --> 02:49:59,755 thatr. 5649 02:49:59,755 --> 02:50:00,722 . Mayor, Ian read bk what 5650 02:50:00,722 --> 02:50:02,157 you said pviously. 5651 02:50:02,157 --> 02:50:04,157 Ifhat, plee. 5652 02:50:04,293 --> 02:50:05,594 The direconas direct staff 5653 02:50:05,594 --> 02:50:06,962 not to appve theight 5654 02:50:06,962 --> 02:50:08,629 chilrs until saidhillers 5655 02:50:08,629 --> 02:50:11,166 are a par of aand use 5656 02:50:11,166 --> 02:50:13,566 applicatn fm the appcant 5657 02:50:13,635 --> 02:50:14,336 moved. 5658 02:50:14,336 --> 02:50:14,870 Ok, so it 5659 02:50:14,870 --> 02:50:15,370 soved and 5660 02:50:15,370 --> 02:50:15,904 conded. 5661 02:50:15,904 --> 02:50:16,448 You said you 5662 02:50:16,448 --> 02:50:18,448 d sonde 5663 02:50:18,574 --> 02:50:19,541 Ok, whatever. Iust wanto 5664 02:50:19,541 --> 02:50:19,941 make sureou g some thund, 5665 02:50:19,941 --> 02:50:20,535 th 5666 02:50:20,535 --> 02:50:20,892 s all.Ounow. 5667 02:50:20,892 --> 02:50:22,177 Ankou. You don 5668 02:50:22,177 --> 02:50:23,612 t nd it. 5669 02:50:23,612 --> 02:50:23,957 It MAY beechnal, but the 5670 02:50:23,957 --> 02:50:25,614 wayhat 5671 02:50:25,614 --> 02:50:26,843 s wordes don 5672 02:50:26,843 --> 02:50:27,492 approve tm untilhey 5673 02:50:27,492 --> 02:50:28,149 re a 5674 02:50:28,149 --> 02:50:28,823 pa ofn application But 5675 02:50:28,823 --> 02:50:29,551 they 5676 02:50:29,551 --> 02:50:32,870 d oy b approved if the 5677 02:50:32,870 --> 02:50:33,288 apicatn itsfs approved. 5678 02:50:33,288 --> 02:50:34,556 Rhaps inhert in pt of it. 5679 02:50:34,556 --> 02:50:35,657 S. Okay. 5680 02:50:35,657 --> 02:50:37,657 Just ming sure. 5681 02:50:37,793 --> 02:50:39,661 Ye 5682 02:50:39,661 --> 02:50:40,429 And I gss I 5683 02:50:40,429 --> 02:50:41,930 ll. I alrdy 5684 02:50:41,930 --> 02:50:43,298 spok to this,ut I just,ou 5685 02:50:43,298 --> 02:50:45,667 know athe end of theay,, 5686 02:50:45,667 --> 02:50:48,203 I justave a hard time n 5687 02:50:48,203 --> 02:50:51,803 seng this as, I mean. Wl 5688 02:50:52,509 --> 02:50:54,310 two things. O ihe 5689 02:50:54,310 --> 02:50:56,310 plicant is carlysinghe 5690 02:50:56,613 --> 02:50:57,913 space pmaris a data 5691 02:50:57,913 --> 02:50:58,718 center, dsn 5692 02:50:58,718 --> 02:50:59,715 tlaim to b 5693 02:50:59,715 --> 02:51:02,317 using t spa for anying 5694 02:51:02,317 --> 02:51:03,986 t aata cente and has an 5695 02:51:03,986 --> 02:51:05,521 interptati tt suggests 5696 02:51:05,521 --> 02:51:07,289 th can that I vehemently 5697 02:51:07,289 --> 02:51:10,289 disagr with and tnk is 5698 02:51:11,827 --> 02:51:15,427 wrg. S to tha extt, my 5699 02:51:19,902 --> 02:51:21,236 suggestion is to not. Awardhe 5700 02:51:21,236 --> 02:51:22,839 the pert on the eig 5701 02:51:22,839 --> 02:51:24,839 ille bause theyre 5702 02:51:26,142 --> 02:51:27,943 constent whhe gded 5703 02:51:27,943 --> 02:51:30,943 d zoned lan use ohe 5704 02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:36,150 proper.Eyond that, my 5705 02:51:37,854 --> 02:51:39,289 suggestion would bhat if a 5706 02:51:39,289 --> 02:51:41,558 land use proposal ces 5707 02:51:41,558 --> 02:51:43,958 forwd, tt wld makehe 5708 02:51:44,426 --> 02:51:46,426 chilleonsistent with the 5709 02:51:46,628 --> 02:51:47,763 prary uf a dat center, 5710 02:51:47,763 --> 02:51:49,465 that thatan be incded 5711 02:51:49,465 --> 02:51:50,567 thin anpplition t change 5712 02:51:50,567 --> 02:51:52,368 the landse and all that to 5713 02:51:52,368 --> 02:51:54,270 ppen. But two separate 5714 02:51:54,270 --> 02:51:54,744 reason mak sense. Miste 5715 02:51:54,744 --> 02:51:55,772 Mayor? 5716 02:51:55,772 --> 02:51:56,409 Ay. 5717 02:51:56,409 --> 02:51:58,409 That 5718 02:51:58,508 --> 02:51:59,111 s wha my my backup is. 5719 02:51:59,111 --> 02:51:59,742 I d 5720 02:51:59,742 --> 02:52:00,295 t need t go through what 5721 02:52:00,295 --> 02:52:00,846 I 5722 02:52:00,846 --> 02:52:04,446 ve alrdy sd. I think at 5723 02:52:06,349 --> 02:52:10,286 thend o the day, I just. The 5724 02:52:10,286 --> 02:52:12,288 level o due digence that I 5725 02:52:12,288 --> 02:52:15,888 think suld he and was not 5726 02:52:17,494 --> 02:52:19,796 donen ts proposal toet t 5727 02:52:19,796 --> 02:52:22,598 the notio of eig jus see 5728 02:52:22,598 --> 02:52:23,766 spect enoh that m sse is 5729 02:52:23,766 --> 02:52:24,767 they are ting to chae the 5730 02:52:24,767 --> 02:52:26,569 la use whout going tough 5731 02:52:26,569 --> 02:52:27,920 the lan use change, a that 5732 02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:28,605 th 5733 02:52:28,605 --> 02:52:29,950 s inapproiate and tt I 5734 02:52:29,950 --> 02:52:30,540 n 5735 02:52:30,540 --> 02:52:33,409 t be a pt o it. 5736 02:52:33,409 --> 02:52:35,809 Than you. I agree. 5737 02:52:38,810 --> 02:52:39,150 Additional comnts a we 5738 02:52:39,150 --> 02:52:39,451 ne toote on that motn as 5739 02:52:39,451 --> 02:52:40,880 well. 5740 02:52:40,880 --> 02:52:42,880 Ye 5741 02:52:42,152 --> 02:52:43,190 ay. Motn is made and 5742 02:52:43,190 --> 02:52:44,120 secoed. If tre are no 5743 02:52:44,120 --> 02:52:44,988 additionalommes.Ll in 5744 02:52:44,988 --> 02:52:45,609 vor.He motionigna 5745 02:52:45,609 --> 02:52:46,238 sang. 5746 02:52:46,238 --> 02:52:48,191 I,. 5747 02:52:48,191 --> 02:52:51,127 And oosed n, that mion 5748 02:52:51,127 --> 02:52:54,127 caies and decti I so 5749 02:52:54,564 --> 02:52:57,564 given t ttaff With that 5750 02:52:57,767 --> 02:52:58,334 we a at the cclusnf. 5751 02:52:58,334 --> 02:52:59,100 3 to. 5752 02:52:59,100 --> 02:53:01,100 1 our. 5753 02:53:02,500 --> 02:53:03,806 Game of our gam tonight 5754 02:53:03,806 --> 02:53:04,375 101 yeah, 5755 02:53:04,375 --> 02:53:05,575 over. 5756 02:53:05,575 --> 02:53:06,182 With.Ut thewins won 1 to 5757 02:53:06,182 --> 02:53:07,877 3. 5758 02:53:07,877 --> 02:53:09,112 Yeah. 5759 02:53:09,112 --> 02:53:09,679 And and we 5760 02:53:09,679 --> 02:53:11,679 re donen thi 5761 02:53:12,810 --> 02:53:13,449 it. W he no oth business 5762 02:53:13,449 --> 02:53:14,384 tonight. No listive and 5763 02:53:14,384 --> 02:53:15,753 rgovernmental affairs 5764 02:53:15,753 --> 02:53:17,253 update. No economic development 5765 02:53:17,253 --> 02:53:18,389 thorit Rig to our 5766 02:53:18,389 --> 02:53:19,355 administrative agenda. MR.. 5767 02:53:19,355 --> 02:53:19,924 City attorney anything? 5768 02:53:19,924 --> 02:53:21,925 I hav notng, MR.. 5769 02:53:21,925 --> 02:53:23,193 Yor. 5770 02:53:23,193 --> 02:53:24,928 An councilments? 5771 02:53:24,928 --> 02:53:26,928 No sir 5772 02:53:27,431 --> 02:53:28,565 Sengone.R.. MR.. 5773 02:53:28,565 --> 02:53:30,300 Adnistrator nothing. 5774 02:53:30,300 --> 02:53:31,168 MR.. Mayor, MR.. 5775 02:53:31,168 --> 02:53:31,682 Directorf pubc wor. 5776 02:53:31,682 --> 02:53:32,174 i have. 5777 02:53:32,174 --> 02:53:32,970 Nog, MR.. 5778 02:53:32,970 --> 02:53:33,804 Mayor. 5779 02:53:33,804 --> 02:53:34,671 MISS Dirtor community 5780 02:53:34,671 --> 02:53:36,671 devepmentothing. 5781 02:53:37,600 --> 02:53:38,740 MR. 5782 02:53:38,740 --> 02:53:38,875 Arere business to be heard 5783 02:53:38,875 --> 02:53:41,275 ontems not on tonig 5784 02:53:42,846 --> 02:53:43,481 agda sing none. We have n 5785 02:53:43,481 --> 02:53:44,820 closed seson. 5786 02:53:44,820 --> 02:53:46,820 To 5787 02:53:46,416 --> 02:53:47,383 s g his hand up. O. 5788 02:53:47,383 --> 02:53:50,221 Where a the chill goingo 5789 02:53:50,221 --> 02:53:52,221 be turd off. 5790 02:53:53,323 --> 02:53:55,723 The the iup haseenenied. 5791 02:53:55,926 --> 02:53:57,227 So they hav close off. 5792 02:53:57,227 --> 02:53:57,774 The iup has bn dend.Hat 5793 02:53:57,774 --> 02:53:58,728 s 5794 02:53:58,728 --> 02:54:00,728 all can say. 5795 02:54:01,532 --> 02:54:03,533 Wh about the rie form 5796 02:54:03,533 --> 02:54:04,106 now,or ts noise that 5797 02:54:04,106 --> 02:54:05,680 s 5798 02:54:05,680 --> 02:54:05,636 going o 5799 02:54:05,636 --> 02:54:06,202 I tnk tt was. 5800 02:54:06,202 --> 02:54:06,743 Wh theyer 5801 02:54:06,743 --> 02:54:07,248 Yo can 5802 02:54:07,248 --> 02:54:07,776 t. Wean 5803 02:54:07,776 --> 02:54:08,283 t. 5804 02:54:08,283 --> 02:54:08,897 Answer 5805 02:54:08,897 --> 02:54:09,506 We 5806 02:54:09,506 --> 02:54:10,112 re wai That 5807 02:54:10,112 --> 02:54:10,750 s o the 5808 02:54:10,750 --> 02:54:12,750 agda Tom. W 5809 02:54:14,512 --> 02:54:15,312 re done. With 5810 02:54:15,312 --> 02:54:16,800 that, 5811 02:54:16,800 --> 02:54:16,636 openo aotion t 5812 02:54:16,636 --> 02:54:17,273 adjon. 5813 02:54:17,273 --> 02:54:18,716 Moon to adjou. 5814 02:54:18,716 --> 02:54:19,884 Send moved and second. All 5815 02:54:19,884 --> 02:54:23,484 in favor, say aye.Ye aye.