1 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:17,380 Hello, Patrick, and everyone else. I will put myself back on mute and off video. I just wanted to say hello. 2 00:03:23,220 --> 00:03:23,700 Hi, Margaret. 3 00:03:24,140 --> 00:03:24,600 Hi, Margaret. 4 00:05:47,370 --> 00:05:48,590 Hey, Mayor Brica, how are you? 5 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:55,250 Okay, how are you? So I'll, I'll get a little bit as soon as we get a quorum. We'll get started. Thank you. 6 00:05:55,390 --> 00:06:04,630 Yeah, it looks like Council Member Wallace-Jones and yourself are on. We're waiting for the rest of the council. 7 00:06:06,250 --> 00:06:08,010 Council Member Goshay. 8 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:10,510 Is she in? 9 00:06:10,830 --> 00:06:12,090 Vice Mayor Goshay, yes. 10 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:12,930 Okay. 11 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:16,270 And so is Council Member Romero. 12 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:19,830 All right, so 6.30, I'm going to go ahead and get started. 13 00:06:20,170 --> 00:06:20,170 So, 14 00:06:28,910 --> 00:06:31,930 good evening everyone. 15 00:06:32,610 --> 00:06:40,390 I want to open up the Eastpile Autocity Council regular meeting of today, April 5th, 2022. 16 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:45,390 to. And when I start out by doing, welcome, 17 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,180 Mayor Abrica here, Councilmember Wallace-Jones, 18 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Councilmember Lopez here, Councilmember Romero, President and Vice Mayor Gushay 19 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:10,970 here. Okay, 20 00:07:12,290 --> 00:07:23,310 Okay, so welcome everyone. And before we continue, this is customary James I'll ask you to make a brief summary of the interpretation. 21 00:07:26,910 --> 00:07:34,690 So, if you would like to listen to the Spanish, any Spanish commentary during this meeting 22 00:07:34,690 --> 00:07:39,470 in English, you can use the interpretation feature at the bottom of your screen. 23 00:07:39,550 --> 00:07:46,530 If you click on the world icon or on the globe icon, you can listen to this meeting 24 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:47,250 in English. 25 00:07:47,250 --> 00:07:58,810 If you want to hear this together in Spanish, please print the globe that is located 26 00:07:59,750 --> 00:08:08,870 under your screen and you can put it there to listen to the meeting in Spanish. 27 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:09,990 Thank you. 28 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:11,650 Okay, thank you. 29 00:08:12,550 --> 00:08:15,890 The next item, number two, is the approval of the agenda. 30 00:08:18,210 --> 00:08:22,950 We can entertain those unless there are any changes. 31 00:08:23,890 --> 00:08:25,130 I move approval. 32 00:08:26,410 --> 00:08:26,690 Okay. 33 00:08:27,450 --> 00:08:30,190 We can move and second it if we can have roll call. 34 00:08:31,810 --> 00:08:32,790 Mayor Abrica. 35 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:33,870 Yes. 36 00:08:34,390 --> 00:08:35,710 Council Member Wallace-Jones. 37 00:08:36,390 --> 00:08:37,070 Yes. 38 00:08:37,810 --> 00:08:38,610 Council Member Lopez. 39 00:08:39,230 --> 00:08:39,610 Yes. 40 00:08:40,070 --> 00:08:41,030 Council Member Romero. 41 00:08:41,030 --> 00:08:41,930 Yes. 42 00:08:42,430 --> 00:08:43,390 And Vice Mayor Gushay. 43 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:44,310 Yes. 44 00:08:44,930 --> 00:08:45,590 Motion carries. 45 00:08:46,190 --> 00:08:46,870 Motion carries. 46 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:51,650 Our next item, number three, is the approval of consent calendar. 47 00:08:52,330 --> 00:08:59,770 And so I'll ask if there are any items that any council member wants to pull, or if there 48 00:08:59,770 --> 00:09:03,610 are any requests from the public to pull any item. 49 00:09:03,610 --> 00:09:19,050 And also, if there are any members of the public that wish to make a comment on anything on the consent calendar. So, I'll start with council to see if there are any requests to pull anything. 50 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:26,870 Yeah, I'd like to pull 3.1, please be awarded Addison Avenue improvement projects. 51 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:29,350 Okay, 3.1. And. 52 00:09:29,930 --> 00:09:30,590 Right. 53 00:09:30,590 --> 00:09:31,750 Okay, 54 00:09:34,050 --> 00:09:38,030 so are there any requests for any comments from the public? 55 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:42,610 Yeah, it looks like we have one hand up in the audience. 56 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:44,530 Okay, for the consent items. 57 00:09:46,970 --> 00:09:49,690 So first speaker here is Adrian. 58 00:09:52,690 --> 00:10:02,230 Good evening council members and staff and general public, I asked that consent calendar item number three be pulled on the first retiring policy. 59 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:07,070 I have that standing question about one thing. 60 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:07,870 Okay. 61 00:10:08,130 --> 00:10:09,770 So we'll pull 3.3 also. 62 00:10:10,210 --> 00:10:10,790 Thank you. 63 00:10:11,710 --> 00:10:12,230 Okay. 64 00:10:12,930 --> 00:10:17,260 So I think if I could have a motion. 65 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,760 I'd like to make a motion that we approve the consent calendar. 66 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,840 With as amended without item 3.1 and 3.3. 67 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:30,940 I'll second. 68 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,680 And we could have roll call. 69 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:34,640 Yeah, 70 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:56,760 roll call. Yes. Mayor Brica. Yes. Councilmember Wells-Jones. Yeah. Councilmember Lopez. Yes. Councilmember Romero. Yes. And Vice Mayor Loche. Yes. Motion carries. 71 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:03,320 Okay, so then we'll go back to item 3.1, the Addison Avenue Improvement Project and. 72 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,400 Please proceed. 73 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:15,020 Oh, customer Romero, what was your just quickly, I do not see attachments. I couldn't find 74 00:11:15,020 --> 00:11:33,300 attachment three. And perhaps, you know, I really should have called staff before this meeting. I know I highlighted it here, but it was one of those things that got away from me. I wanted to understand a little better the design services and whether or not I think most importantly, I think the issue for me is, do you want to 75 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:38,880 Do we have a construction manager on this site, on this project, or is it being handled 76 00:11:39,380 --> 00:11:40,080 in-house? 77 00:11:41,020 --> 00:11:42,040 I'm not quite sure. 78 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:50,560 It looks like maybe the contract is for more design services, perhaps what we would call 79 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:56,940 RFIs, request for information, modifications to design based on what was found in the 80 00:11:56,940 --> 00:11:57,300 field. 81 00:11:57,460 --> 00:12:01,700 But I am a little concerned about the project management construction management side. 82 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:08,240 How can someone, and perhaps there was some of that in Attachment 3, and I just didn't 83 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:08,620 see it. 84 00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:10,040 Yeah, absolutely. 85 00:12:10,540 --> 00:12:11,240 Yeah, thank you. 86 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:14,620 Hamza Javed, City Engineers, so I can touch on that real quick. 87 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:21,400 So the Attachment 3, which is the design services during construction, is a contract 88 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,080 with the designer, the designer that actually designed the project. 89 00:12:25,460 --> 00:12:29,520 So what happens is when, you know, the designer designs a project, and you get 90 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,720 into construction, there may be some design-related questions, and so you need to have a contract 91 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,680 with the designer who actually worked on the preparation of the plans. 92 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,920 And this project, particularly because there's pavement reconstruction, we need geotechnical 93 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,220 services for any analysis that might be needed on site. 94 00:12:47,660 --> 00:12:51,660 And so the contract for that is specifically design services during construction. 95 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:57,800 Regarding your question about construction management services, this project is going 96 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:05,140 to be managed in-house by city staff. And we, with the support of the designer, we feel 97 00:13:05,140 --> 00:13:09,940 comfortable that we don't need an outside consultant to manage the day-to-day operations 98 00:13:09,940 --> 00:13:10,720 during construction. 99 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:19,080 So, look, just as far as the CSG contract goes, is that a not-to-exceed or is that 100 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:19,800 a fixed fee? 101 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,500 That's a not-to-exceed amount. 102 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:30,460 Right, so depending on either the conditions found in the field or, you know, other issues 103 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:40,000 related to, I guess, request for further information from the contractor, they may not go to the 104 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,040 full 110,000. 105 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:41,760 That's correct. 106 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:42,820 Absolutely. 107 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,700 Yeah, it's really based off of, in the past, you know, we've noticed on a lot of 108 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:51,240 these projects using Bay Road, for example. 109 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,380 The design services contract, I think we use like 50% of it. 110 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,880 It's usually, you know, for any additional design services unforeseen. 111 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:11,980 And this project, particularly because there's pavement reconstruction, a lot of the 110,000 the majority of it is geotechnical services and site meetings and as bill preparation. 112 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,020 So yeah, it's use the consultant as needed. 113 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,600 Thank you. 114 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,740 I'm ready to move the item unless the council members have other questions. 115 00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:20,600 If 116 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:30,180 not, I move that we approve item 3.1, adopt the resolution authorizing the city manager 117 00:14:30,180 --> 00:14:35,220 to enter under construction contract, approve the contract amendment, number two, with CSG 118 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:46,020 not to exceed $110,000, and actually that previous amount of that contract was 1.855908 119 00:14:46,020 --> 00:14:49,800 with a contingency of 371,181. 120 00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:59,820 Okay, I'm glad to see it's moving forward. Okay. Yes, it is. Thanks for reminding that 121 00:14:59,820 --> 00:14:59,980 that's. 122 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Where is Ms. Winston? 123 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:08,900 There's a motion in second, and we have roll call. Sorry, who is 124 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:12,200 the council member that seconded? I think I'm the vice mayor. 125 00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:17,040 Mayor Obrika. Yes. 126 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Council 127 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,740 Yes, okay. 128 00:15:31,060 --> 00:15:43,500 Next one is number three, and that's the adoption of the first source hiring ordinance for city funded projects and properties and if you could allow. 129 00:15:45,060 --> 00:15:46,140 Be Rachel Horst. 130 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:50,300 No, so agent, you just want to hear what the question is. 131 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:52,540 Adrian had a question. Yeah, and then. 132 00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:53,340 Thank 133 00:15:55,580 --> 00:16:01,660 you. Good evening again council members and staff. I again still have this outstanding 134 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:10,800 question and specifically it's related to section 5.11.030 the scope and goals. Section 135 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:19,340 B number two where it references the all available jobs as were presented to the city's designated 136 00:16:19,340 --> 00:16:26,120 a job coordinator or coordinators at least 48 hours prior to hiring for any available 137 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:32,400 position. I'm just wondering why it's such a short period of time, and whomever is playing 138 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:37,620 that role of the job coordinator, that kind of makes their job harder, trying to source 139 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:43,840 jobs for two days. So I just ask again that you reconsider that little short period 140 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,740 of time, unless there's something that I'm missing. I didn't have time, like I 141 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:54,060 state of last time to contact staff, but if someone could possibly educate me on why you 142 00:16:54,060 --> 00:16:59,540 think that that is a good turnaround time in order to source jobs. It just doesn't seem 143 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:04,040 like an ample time for the person in that position, nor the people who may be looking 144 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,760 for jobs. That's all. Thank you. 145 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,360 Mary Brickus, I could address the question. 146 00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:19,440 Great. Hi, Amy Chen, Director of Community Academic Development. We largely modeled 147 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:26,520 our ordinance after some other jurisdictions that had good examples. And of course we are very open 148 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:36,500 to feedback on the 48-hour noticing. What we really want to have is set up a training program with 149 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:44,880 our existing providers to figure out where we can really build the relationships with trades 150 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:50,740 and with the other industries that we're trying to focus on the larger measurement each program on. 151 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:58,040 So even with the 48-hour turnaround, we believe that that will actually give enough time for employers 152 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:04,160 that are trying to staff up and hire very quickly without slowing down their process. 153 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:14,160 And with those existing relationships that we hope to build, I think we can connect those job seekers 154 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:20,420 and the employers that are looking for them within that timeframe. But we are open to 155 00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:27,100 any feedback from the council if that time should be altered at all or elongated. And 156 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:30,420 we really appreciate the question from the audience. 157 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,760 Okay. Well, I guess we'll reopen this question since this is the second reading, but any 158 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,760 Any further questions from Council following this question or comments? 159 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,800 I was just going to add, Mr. Mayor, if you don't mind, it is a very good point. 160 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:54,980 So thank you, Adrienne, again, for always. 161 00:18:56,020 --> 00:18:58,240 One thing that we could do is take that under consideration. 162 00:18:58,620 --> 00:19:02,040 We're going to bring back the comprehensive set of guidelines in a couple months. 163 00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:04,040 More time is always better. 164 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,060 So maybe what we could commit to now, if folks are agreeable to that. 165 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:12,520 that is in the guidelines, we'll set up what the actual detailed process would be on the 166 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:12,900 noticing. 167 00:19:13,180 --> 00:19:18,540 And I don't have the ordinance language in front of me, but if it says at least 48 hours, 168 00:19:18,860 --> 00:19:22,700 that could be better than, you know, because then we could take that and then the guidelines 169 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:26,440 we could actually set up a longer timeline is one option. 170 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:31,290 So what does the ordinance say exactly? 171 00:19:31,810 --> 00:19:36,630 Are you saying that maybe if it modified this, well, this is the second reading. 172 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:45,730 So, Valerie could remind us any amendments to the existing second reading makes it. 173 00:19:45,730 --> 00:19:47,410 We have to then go back and have a first. 174 00:19:47,790 --> 00:19:49,110 Yeah, have a first reading again. 175 00:19:49,470 --> 00:19:54,630 So, if that may be the best thing then we'll just continue this and. 176 00:19:56,630 --> 00:20:01,410 Well, well, can we pull up the ordinance and see. 177 00:20:01,410 --> 00:20:08,290 Well, I was in what exactly say, and then if there's a proposed amendment, at least we know, but then we'll have to bring it back. 178 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:12,830 Mr. Mayor, it seems like B applies to someone who is not in compliance. 179 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:19,110 Yeah, and it does it does say at least so as was stated previously. 180 00:20:19,730 --> 00:20:25,030 Okay, so it does say that clarify that so I don't think you really need to make any changes. 181 00:20:25,030 --> 00:20:37,810 Right. Okay. Yeah, it seems that with the at least, then as I hear Patrick saying, you'll bring guidelines, et cetera, that would be more specific to potentially allow more. 182 00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:46,250 And, and Council Member Romero is correct. This is applies to where somebody who did not meet the goals to begin with. 183 00:20:46,770 --> 00:20:47,030 Right. 184 00:20:48,190 --> 00:20:48,970 Right. Okay. 185 00:20:48,970 --> 00:20:57,750 But to Patrick's point, though, is it possible within the guidelines to structure something 186 00:20:57,750 --> 00:21:06,290 that really, you know, asks or, yeah, asks our contractors or folks falling under this 187 00:21:06,290 --> 00:21:11,250 ordinance that, you know, those longer time periods are either preferred or should occur, 188 00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:18,830 whether it's a one-day, five-day, an extension of one-day, five-day, seven-days, I'm not sure. 189 00:21:19,910 --> 00:21:25,550 Again, I think, as Amy Chen said, because the Director of Community Development said, 190 00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:36,850 we're trying to fashion an ordinance that is not too onerous on the contractor, 191 00:21:36,850 --> 00:21:43,510 yet at the same time meets the goals of trying to get local folks hired. So I wonder if there's 192 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:50,170 any flexibility within the guidelines to put a little more nuance to this. 193 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:59,620 I wouldn't see any reason why there wouldn't be. Again, it's setting a minimum score of at 194 00:21:59,620 --> 00:22:06,960 least 48 hours. Yeah, so again, it sounds to me that this is fine, unless somebody really 195 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:13,180 objects because the guidelines will then can bring back, you know, additional nuances 196 00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:15,500 like you're saying, as far as the time. 197 00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:20,840 So at least for tonight, we just need to know whether we want to vote on this and move 198 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,460 it forward and then bring back the guidelines. 199 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:28,460 Are there any other questions or comments? 200 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,960 Through the chair, so what you're saying, if I understand correctly, we would approve 201 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:39,260 this with the at least 48 hours but come back with the guidelines and we can expand upon it because 202 00:22:39,260 --> 00:22:45,100 I do agree when you look at 48 hours we want to remove any barriers that may be cause a problem 203 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:50,200 for anyone who's looking for a job. So 48 hours does not seem sufficient but I agree we should 204 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,400 bring it back and make sure we're going to follow up and follow up with it in the guidelines. 205 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:01,520 Right. Yes. Okay. Yes, I think that's what we can do. Any other questions or comments? 206 00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:10,610 So, and if not, then I can entertain a motion to approve the second reading of this. 207 00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:11,370 I'll move approval. 208 00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:12,670 Second. 209 00:23:13,030 --> 00:23:17,330 Second reading of this ordinance, of the, of this first or second ordinance. 210 00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:19,630 I'll second. 211 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:23,050 I don't want to. 212 00:23:23,330 --> 00:23:26,550 Yeah, I don't want to let the vice mayor go. 213 00:23:27,030 --> 00:23:30,710 And so we have a roll call. 214 00:23:33,470 --> 00:23:34,030 Yes. 215 00:23:34,730 --> 00:23:36,110 Council Member Wallace-Jones. 216 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:37,350 Yes. 217 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:38,910 Council Member Lopez. 218 00:23:40,150 --> 00:23:40,690 Yes. 219 00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:42,030 Council Member Romero. 220 00:23:42,570 --> 00:23:42,930 Yes. 221 00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:44,330 And Vice Mayor Gossier. 222 00:23:44,850 --> 00:23:45,130 Yes. 223 00:23:46,290 --> 00:23:46,490 Okay. 224 00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:46,910 I'm curious. 225 00:23:48,730 --> 00:23:49,230 Okay. 226 00:23:49,690 --> 00:23:54,170 We have no closed session items tonight, that's number four, and our next item then 227 00:23:54,170 --> 00:23:56,190 is number five, which is public comment. 228 00:23:56,870 --> 00:24:03,370 So, this is an opportunity for the public to, for any member of the public to address 229 00:24:03,370 --> 00:24:07,730 the council on any issue that is not on the agenda. 230 00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:14,650 And just understanding we cannot engage in any lengthy discussions and we'll try to 231 00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:17,030 stay within the two-minute limit. 232 00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:25,350 So, yeah, James, if you see any requests for that, if you can call their names. 233 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:28,790 Yes. So, first speaker here is Gail Wilkerson. 234 00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:34,960 Good evening, council. Citizen number one is here. 235 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:45,720 I'd like to address the mandatory meetings that the developers and whoever, builders have to have. 236 00:24:46,660 --> 00:24:54,100 It's become, I've heard people say that they weren't notified, but I became a victim of this. 237 00:24:54,100 --> 00:25:02,380 I found out when they sent out one of my neighbors to knock on doors, but she only knocked on the doors of people she liked. 238 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:09,460 And I had to call the city and I was informed they sent me a flyer. And that's how I learned about the meeting. 239 00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:19,500 The one thing that really upset me was when they had people to speak. 240 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:26,360 The person in front of me, she talked and talks for at least five, seven minutes. 241 00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:28,420 And I said, oh, good, we don't have a timer. 242 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:36,400 And because I wanted to say a lot, because of the last time they built over there, it was all dusty and dirty. 243 00:25:36,580 --> 00:25:37,960 And it seemed like they didn't care. 244 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,740 And neither did the management. 245 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,160 So the lady talked, talked, talked, talked. 246 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,460 And when it got to me, I got a timer. 247 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:50,980 She didn't get a timer. 248 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,920 And then after me, both these people, 249 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,700 they did not live in East Palo Alto. 250 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,840 They were talking, the Crescent Park Association president 251 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,640 and one other lady wanted to know something about street 252 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240 and taxes and whatnot. 253 00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:10,440 It didn't even apply to East Palo Alto. 254 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:20,420 And so that was very offensive. I don't know how the city enforces that, but that was insult. 255 00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:28,460 And I also asked him about their policy of no mom and pop businesses there. And he said he wasn't aware of that. 256 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,280 It was several things that was very terrible. I think you ought to look into that, really. 257 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,000 Thank you. 258 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,100 Okay. 259 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,060 That was our only speaker. 260 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,000 Okay. 261 00:26:42,580 --> 00:26:43,000 All right. 262 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Well, thank you for the comments. 263 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:48,900 Moving on to informational reports. 264 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,360 The first one is a verbal update from our interim police chief, Jeff Lou. 265 00:26:56,980 --> 00:26:59,800 Good evening, council and east follow-up to community members. 266 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:07,860 Last Wednesday, sexually violent predator Lamar Johnson moved into our community registered as a sex offender. 267 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:14,600 moved into 903 Beach Street and is currently being supervised 24 hours a day by a security guard. 268 00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:21,100 I had a sergeant go out and make contact with the security guard and get to meet them a little bit. 269 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:25,140 They're both former law enforcement, so they've had a little bit of additional training. 270 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,160 But for the time being, he'll be monitored 24 hours a day. 271 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,180 Security monitor or security cameras have been installed on the property according to the judge's orders. 272 00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:43,560 And the landscape has been cut way down to allow for visibility into the yard, as ordered by the judge. 273 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:55,080 I still don't agree with the judge's order. And I still believe that especially violent predator in our community puts our community at risk. 274 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,380 But the police department needs to respect the judge's core ruling. And so we're just going to work with that. 275 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:06,440 We will continue working with our community, keep our lines of communication open. 276 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:12,180 And additionally, we added a link to the Megan's Law website onto our Victims Resource 277 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:13,920 Page on our PV website. 278 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:21,300 So please visit that if you want to do any research on it, but just want to give you 279 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:25,960 guys all an update on where we stand with LeBar Johnson, our sexual advisor. 280 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,500 And, you know, if I may, I want to just add a few things to our report. 281 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:42,720 I mean, as you're well aware, the city council had, you know, through the mayor had already sent the letter and opposition to this, to the judge. 282 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:55,900 I know the police department had managed communications from the community, and I believe close to a thousand or more people in the community sent their opposition to the judge. 283 00:28:55,900 --> 00:29:00,380 Nevertheless, the judge went ahead and did the ruling. 284 00:29:03,060 --> 00:29:10,300 When I became mayor, I attempted several times, and I did at one point seek the assistance 285 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:15,620 of Chief Jeff Lew, interim chief, to try to talk to the landlord. 286 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,840 It's an absentee landlord, two investors, one lives in Texas, another one actually lives 287 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:27,740 and Redwood City, you know, to try to persuade them that the right thing to do would be not 288 00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:38,000 to rent the house. They get $6,400. That is really taxpayers' money. This is coming 289 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,080 from the state. And a similar case had happened in Emerald Hills, where one of the landlords 290 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:52,360 lives. And, you know, people put pressure and eventually one of the landlord decided not to rent. 291 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,840 Unfortunately, these investors refused to meet with me. Now, I wasn't offended, you know, 292 00:29:58,900 --> 00:29:59,540 because I'm the mayor. 293 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,580 None of that. I wasn't going to communicate to them anything different that the community already has, 294 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:13,600 but they refuse to meet. So, you know, we operate in a system that has these different levels of 295 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:19,680 authority. I know 20 years ago, we actually went and protested in front of the house on 296 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Beach Street when a similar case happened. 297 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,720 You know, what I have said publicly, and I'm just 298 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,060 reporting that to you is that, rather than the protesting in the House, because I do intend 299 00:30:32,060 --> 00:30:39,380 to protest and I would encourage anyone to do so peacefully, I'm going to go and protest 300 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:46,540 on April 15th in front of the courthouse. That's the day that we all have paid our taxes. 301 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:55,360 This is taxpayer's money that is being used to subsidize absentee landlord that appears 302 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:02,560 to have no conscience. And secondly, it's our taxpayers' money that are paying a judge who, 303 00:31:02,620 --> 00:31:11,460 in my opinion, really made a not only unfair unjust, but I believe it's a racist call because our 304 00:31:11,460 --> 00:31:18,640 community now is going to be more afraid. And I know that the chief and everyone is following up, 305 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,420 making sure everything's secure, et cetera. But nevertheless, it's really the fear that 306 00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:30,460 and stills in the neighborhood. So, for me, you know, it's a symbolic protest, perhaps, 307 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,200 but I'm going to be doing it as an individual, not officially representing the council, so there's 308 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:42,060 no liability for the city. But I encourage those 1,000-plus people who sent letters to the judge 309 00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:45,800 to continue sending letters to the judge, continue sending letters to the judge, 310 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,220 and send them to the landlords, too, because that is public information. Who owns the house? 311 00:31:51,960 --> 00:32:00,020 how much money they're getting. And it's really an insult for these landlords to take 312 00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:09,900 advantage of our community. I do support the idea of everyone having housing. And so, you 313 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:13,800 know, this person can be placed somewhere else where further away from the community. 314 00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:18,160 In any way, so I want to thank, you know, Jeff and the police, I think they've done 315 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:24,720 a great job in communicating to the community, expressing their opposition, as well as the 316 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:34,640 district attorney. But, you know, judges, they have the final word up to a point. In 317 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,980 this case, I hope that the judge will listen to it. Thank you. 318 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:44,820 Any other questions or comments from council members on this issue? 319 00:32:45,660 --> 00:32:49,600 I just want to say to Commander Liu, thank you for the report. 320 00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:56,860 I understand you said that there are cameras there, but how often will our police department 321 00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:59,600 check in with the House to make sure the community is safe? 322 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,960 What kind of communication has gone out to the residents on Beach Street so that they 323 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,800 are aware that he's there, that they can be comfortable? 324 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:11,260 So we don't have access to the cameras. 325 00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:21,960 They're there. We've been assured by Liberty Health Care of California that if something happens, then we can get their surveillance video. 326 00:33:22,980 --> 00:33:26,740 That's nothing more than verbal commitment through the court. 327 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:35,480 If something had happened, then we have other avenues to get that video, and hopefully it's in operational order. 328 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:43,660 Earlier this week, I sent out a social media update to the community, and I know a lot 329 00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:48,060 of members that live right across the street from that address have gotten it because I 330 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:51,580 saw their comments on there, and I really appreciate the community's participation. 331 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,280 But we pushed the word out. 332 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,740 We've made frequent patrols of the area, but we got to find that balance right now. 333 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:07,100 balance between harassment and just keeping a close eye, right? 334 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:20,460 So I have my personal opinions, and personally, I feel like he's still at risk, but now he's 335 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:25,080 a community member of ours, so we have to protect him as well as the community around 336 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:25,420 him. 337 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,500 So we got to find that fine balance. 338 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:33,540 But, you know, we depend on our communication with our community, keep our alliance communication 339 00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:38,900 open and encourage anybody that has any information, please let us know so we can break together 340 00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:39,880 looking forward. 341 00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:45,930 Thank you. 342 00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:48,070 Any other questions or comments? 343 00:34:48,430 --> 00:34:49,510 And then we'll move on. 344 00:34:49,970 --> 00:34:52,330 To the chair, I just have one small question. 345 00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:54,510 Thank you, Chief Liu, for the report. 346 00:34:55,930 --> 00:35:00,570 You mentioned in your presentation that the security guards both have a background. 347 00:35:00,570 --> 00:35:10,270 Is there, they understand that right there's two security guards monitoring obviously it's around the clock but how many of them are out there on a given day, or excuse me, like for the rotations itself. 348 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:13,170 I believe it's one at a time because there's two total. 349 00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:29,010 So, I believe that station and I just who breaks them on day six and seven I don't know yet. I'm to have my acting commander angel Sanchez check back in with them. 350 00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:34,950 And it gets a few more details, but it's voluntary, they'll give us what they want to give us. 351 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:43,230 There are no obligations to give us all the information, but we'll keep the lines communication open and be able to check in with them and see how things are going. 352 00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:45,900 Okay. 353 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,320 Anybody else? 354 00:35:50,860 --> 00:36:01,040 Okay, so if there's no other comments, we move on to the next report and that's the below market rate housing program administration. 355 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,420 It's an update is forced. 356 00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:10,300 Good evening council members. 357 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:19,160 I am joined this evening also by Dwayne Bay, the Executive Director of EPA Can Do. 358 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,900 I am the Housing and Economic Development Manager. 359 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:31,820 And we are presenting this evening a brief presentation on the city's below market rate housing program and program administration. 360 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:41,640 For some very brief background, the city has a portfolio of below market rate units that 361 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:48,220 resulted over the years from prior inclusionary housing programs and redevelopment agency programs 362 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,920 such as home buyer, excuse me, down payment assistance loan. 363 00:36:53,640 --> 00:37:00,280 And following the dissolution of redevelopment agencies in 2011 and subsequent staffing cuts, 364 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:21,680 There was no consistent monitoring of BMR units in the city. Prior to that, there was a full program. So the result of this is that typical transactions of BMR units like a refinance or resale or loan subordination, those would take a lot of staff time. 365 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:29,080 And we're quite inefficient because there was no longer an established process or oversight of the program. 366 00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:43,640 So, in 2018, the city council directed city staff to release an RFP to identify a firm that could, an organization that could act as the city's BMR administrator. 367 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:55,260 And through that RFP process, EPA can do as selected with their subcontractor Baja that stands for the Area Affordable Home Ownership Alliance. 368 00:37:56,420 --> 00:38:05,640 And this agreement included BMR administration in general, but also a lot of startup tasks 369 00:38:06,190 --> 00:38:13,700 that were required to build back a more robust BMR administration or BMR program. 370 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:20,840 And that included, importantly, activities like reviewing all of the files that the 371 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:30,240 City had on what were believed to be below market rate units. And these were paper files that were handed over to EPA can do for review. 372 00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:48,320 EPA can do hired a staff member to oversee this. And, and the review of each file included not just a completeness review but also a basic risk assessment that means to understand where 373 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:55,780 who is living in the unit is the unit compliant with the resell restriction agreement that 374 00:38:56,090 --> 00:38:59,640 the city has for each of the BMR units and so on and so forth. 375 00:39:00,550 --> 00:39:04,380 These files were digitized and loaded onto a database called HomeKeeper. 376 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:12,300 And also importantly, staff at EPA can do reached out to BMR homeowners to reestablish 377 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:22,280 The relationship that the city had lost over the years to ensure that homeowners were aware of the BMR requirements. 378 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,340 And then also to bring them back really into the annual, the rhythm of annual compliance monitoring. 379 00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:42,160 So, this is from the staff report, but this is the find, the chart that really shows the findings of PAKAN-DU's review over the last, well, in the first year of the MR administration. 380 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:53,200 The numbers that are larger here are the ones to focus on, but the 108 is the total number of files that the city handed over to PAKAN-DU and said, 381 00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:57,280 look at these and figure out how many units there actually are. 382 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:09,600 And then the, the other large number here is the, the number of properties that were strictly speaking BMR units in the city's portfolio that number 74. 383 00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:20,640 And then the number at the bottom is the, the number of files that are currently in the MR portfolio that number stands at 53. Now, let's walk through these numbers a bit. 384 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:28,900 But starting at the top again, EPA can do found that some of these files were not actually 385 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:36,100 for BMR home ownership units, which was the original intent to administer home ownership 386 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:36,520 units. 387 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,160 There were some rental BMRs in there, just a few. 388 00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:47,720 There were 27 files that were habitat for humanity units, which is not to say that 389 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,460 they were not below market rate. 390 00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:54,080 It's just that the difference is that they are not in the city's BMR program. 391 00:40:54,340 --> 00:41:00,260 And again, what that means is that there is no buyer's occupancy visa restriction agreement 392 00:41:00,260 --> 00:41:01,720 recorded for that property. 393 00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:07,120 So it's not strictly under the city's enforcement authority, not to say that the city doesn't 394 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,280 monitor it or count it as an affordable unit, but it is separate from the program. 395 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:27,700 Then there were some just down payment assistance loans that were not associated with a below market rate unit. They were just the loans. As I mentioned, there was a program that the city run or the redevelopment agency run. 396 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:37,460 And then there, there was unit one unit associated with volunteer effort to rehabilitate a home. So again, just a different model. 397 00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:39,580 Now, from the 74. 398 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:55,620 There were 14 units that EPA can do found had a short term affordability restriction. So that was a five year term. And when that expired the units were no longer affordable the affordability restriction was no longer in effect. 399 00:41:55,620 --> 00:42:08,900 Then there were seven units that were lost to foreclosure over the years and then were sold in violation of the resell agreement, meaning that they were not sold at a below market rate price. 400 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:16,380 There have been no units lost from the program since 2013, so this number is stable, rather. 401 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:26,720 In addition to that thorough file review, EPA can do has several administration tasks 402 00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:32,320 that it has carried out over the last going on three years. 403 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,660 And that includes three resales of BMR housing units and four refinances. 404 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:46,540 And those resales resulted each time, because of a local preference lottery system, it resulted 405 00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:52,660 each time in an East Palo Alto resident being selected to purchase that unit at a below market rate price. 406 00:42:53,360 --> 00:43:03,980 And I believe, in at least two of the cases, and Dwayne can correct me, the household that moved out sold the unit, the below market rate unit, moved into a market rate unit. 407 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:12,940 So there was a natural transition with the money they had saved from purchasing that below market rate unit and the equity that they built up and that took out from that sale. 408 00:43:12,940 --> 00:43:15,660 They were able to purchase a market rate home. 409 00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:24,940 Other tasks, smaller but also very important are things like title changes and minor modifications, and of course these consultations with homeowners. 410 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:31,360 So we're in the third year of monitoring, which brings us to this slide about any compliance concerns. 411 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:47,360 Now, this chart is showing all of the files, all the review, and in the third year of compliance monitoring, how many there are, where there is some issue that CPA can do is working out with the homeowner. 412 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:56,300 It does not mean that the homeowner is necessarily in overt violation of the restriction of the 413 00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,960 Buyer's Accuracy Resource Restriction Agreement, it means that there's some issue to work through. 414 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:08,360 Annually, the homeowner signs a notarized form saying that they occupy the unit, 415 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,240 that they are not renting the unit out, that they're aware of the BMR requirements, 416 00:44:14,740 --> 00:44:19,680 and that they will continue to stay compliant with the restrictions. 417 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:28,280 But in these cases, as you can see, there is one case where there was no repayment on a down payment assistance loan, 418 00:44:28,580 --> 00:44:35,260 a relatively small one that had a deferred payment period and what the homeowner did not begin paying back for the loan. 419 00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:40,360 There is one case of a potential, the owner doesn't live in the unit. 420 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:59,840 And then there are the refinances where there was not city council or there was no city approval of the refinance lower risk versus higher risk is just that the household refinanced in the high risk case potentially for more than what the unit is actually. 421 00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:16,100 So staff and EPA can do our working through these cases, but there are very, very few where the city would actually have to come in and exercise its enforcement authority. 422 00:45:18,250 --> 00:45:30,910 So as for the future of BMI administration, this contract can be extended. And so we can look to 2023. And in terms of the programs growth, this of course depends on. 423 00:45:31,630 --> 00:45:51,350 new units through the inclusionary housing program, all of those units are restricted in perpetuity so they do require that oversight and really from the beginning working with and providing technical assistance to developers and property managers from the very start to ensure that these units stay in the program and stay in compliance. 424 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:58,070 So I would hand it over to Dwayne if he has any closing words, and then otherwise we can take questions from. 425 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,480 not really you you covered it I just I want to correct one small thing of the 426 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:11,940 there are 33 habitat for humanity homes in East Palo Alto there happen to be 27 427 00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:19,000 of them happen to have files in our files they do have deed restrictions on the 428 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:25,440 resale price and you know covenants against renting them out and that 429 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,260 sort of thing. It's just that the city doesn't have any direct power to intervene. It doesn't 430 00:46:31,260 --> 00:46:34,580 have any monitoring, annual monitoring requirements. 431 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,180 Other than that, questions? 432 00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:48,780 Okay. All right. Well, then, if we've concluded the staff report, I'll first open up for council 433 00:46:48,780 --> 00:46:55,920 members for any questions or comments, and then I'll go to the public and then 434 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,380 come back to it. So any council member want to and 435 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:07,340 again tonight is just a report update on what's 436 00:47:07,340 --> 00:47:14,540 been going on and and some issues but anybody? Yes, through the chair again, 437 00:47:14,860 --> 00:47:20,800 Rachel and Dwayne thank you for the report. It was good to see that we're at least following up 438 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,120 or there is a process to follow up every year. Does that happen like at the beginning of the 439 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,940 year and are there times when you have to go physically to an address if somebody doesn't 440 00:47:30,940 --> 00:47:31,660 reply? 441 00:47:35,540 --> 00:47:41,940 I'll take that Rachel. Yeah, we do it. We do it every year. We start the paper process 442 00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:49,560 in January and are doing a one-on-one follow-up. We just, we send out a form letter and then we 443 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:55,680 have to do a fair amount of expediting. That happens typically around February. 444 00:47:57,940 --> 00:48:16,820 There is just a side note, but something we had to learn through a couple of cycles is that there are 14 units that were put into the program before 2004 that had an older agreement that doesn't actually explicitly say the city, you know, it doesn't 445 00:48:16,820 --> 00:48:22,720 require monitoring cooperation. And those homeowners in addition, none of them had been 446 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,600 contacted recently. So some of them were a little, you know, I mean, we're asking for 447 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:32,660 personal financial information, but 14 of them, you know, said, hey, you don't really have a right 448 00:48:32,660 --> 00:48:38,700 to do this. And so we just had to approach it more on a community relations basis. And 449 00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:44,180 there's really at this point only a couple of households that are difficult in that regard. 450 00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:52,060 But they seem to be in compliance, so it's not really turning out to be that much of a problem. 451 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:59,100 Thank you. That is great. And then, Dwayne, maybe you can talk a little bit more about the refinancing process. 452 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:05,920 Like, how would what, how would the city or your organization know that somebody's going through the refinancing process? 453 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:13,740 Well, that's a very good question. The way that we're supposed to know is that we're 454 00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:18,200 supposed to remind them every year that they need to talk to us, and then they pick up 455 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,380 the phone and they call us. 456 00:49:21,460 --> 00:49:26,680 Sometimes they don't, and so the next line of defense is 457 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:34,840 that the title officer, there's deed restrictions, the recent agreement is recorded, we're 458 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,860 supposed to receive a notice, the escrow officers supposed to notice, obviously some of them 459 00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:45,180 that have fallen through the cracks in the past, I mean, we don't know if there might 460 00:49:45,180 --> 00:49:50,120 not have been some reflies that have already cleared that we don't even know about. 461 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,900 So we're trying to get into a early detection and education mode. 462 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,940 The other thing that does happen, that how things sometimes come to our attention, 463 00:50:01,940 --> 00:50:08,620 And this is also getting better as we talk to people more is a BMR refinance is it's 464 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:10,600 just frankly just a little more difficult. 465 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,760 There's a little more paperwork. 466 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,640 There's it's best to be working with a loan officer who's done a bunch of them. 467 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,560 So when people come to us and say, you know, who might we work with who knows the program 468 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:30,640 that sort of thing, we're able to give referrals to multiple, you know, banks 469 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,700 Thanks for crediting unions that are familiar with the process. 470 00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:35,400 Now, this is good. 471 00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:36,660 Again, thank you for the report. 472 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,100 The report, it's a long report. 473 00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:43,540 It's very, a lot of information in there about the down payment assistance, even how houses 474 00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:46,020 are supposed to be up kept when they're in a BMR. 475 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,020 And I don't, that's a lot of work for anybody to do. 476 00:50:49,180 --> 00:50:51,880 So again, thank you for bringing the program current. 477 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,880 I know we lost some units during some time, but you know, with you at the helmet 478 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,520 and reviewing it, you know, hopefully that won't happen. 479 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,420 So again, thank you. 480 00:51:02,530 --> 00:51:02,890 Thank you. 481 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,160 Okay, anybody else questions, comments from 482 00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:15,650 the council? 483 00:51:17,110 --> 00:51:24,170 Sorry, a quick question on the two high risk or higher risk loans that are, I guess they're 484 00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:32,670 over leveraged. Is there a strategy to kind of reduce that risk or are they so highly levered 485 00:51:33,370 --> 00:51:45,110 above the actual restricted sale price that there's no salvation, what's the thought on 486 00:51:45,110 --> 00:51:45,310 those? 487 00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:52,870 Well, the thought is to sit down and talk to them, and we're sort of carrot and stick, 488 00:51:53,450 --> 00:51:59,190 where the next letter that they received will mention to them what should be obvious 489 00:51:59,190 --> 00:52:03,070 to them by now, because we've pointed them to the agreement that they're going to 490 00:52:03,070 --> 00:52:06,950 to be hearing from the city and that they could potentially get a notice of default 491 00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:08,530 and be forced to sell the home. 492 00:52:08,850 --> 00:52:10,490 We haven't played that card yet. 493 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:19,450 As far as sort of how far over, both of those homes are well below current market value. 494 00:52:19,890 --> 00:52:25,430 So it's not, I mean, because the market keeps going up, it's just that the ones 495 00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:32,390 that are lower risk essentially were overfinanced, but some years back, and just the formula, 496 00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:39,210 formula, the resale formula that allows, you know, for appreciation, but just not at market 497 00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:48,110 rate has caused the resale value to, you know, just to go up enough that it covers what they 498 00:52:48,110 --> 00:52:53,490 shouldn't have done in the first place. The other two are, they're not outrageous, 499 00:52:53,690 --> 00:53:03,870 but there's one that's up in the $100,000 range. And, you know, so we're just going 500 00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:17,810 to work that problem but no we don't have any, you know, we've discussed a number of strategies but we're going to cross that bridge when we get there and we're consulting closely with city staff on that. 501 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:19,590 Thank you. 502 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,200 Anybody, anybody else. 503 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,220 Before I go to the public and then can come back. 504 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:39,320 Well, let me see. James, are there any requests from the public to speak on this item? 505 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:47,960 Actually, yes, there's one speaker here, Mr. Stuart Highland. 506 00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:07,380 Good evening, Mayor, City Council. I would just like to say from this report that it speaks really highly to the competence and professionalism of our homegrown EPA can do. 507 00:54:07,380 --> 00:54:25,920 And its ability to really be not necessarily a broker, but a good player, a good faith player in the work that we're trying to do around creating more affordable home options for residents of East Palo Alto. 508 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,680 So in light of what we've been going through with the OPA discussion, I would just like 509 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:38,300 to say, confidence should be restored for most folks about the ability of East Palo Alto 510 00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:43,020 nonprofits to manage well for the benefit of our residents. 511 00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:43,800 Thank you. 512 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:49,720 Okay. 513 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:50,900 Thank you. 514 00:54:51,180 --> 00:54:52,080 Those are only speakers? 515 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:52,940 Yeah. 516 00:54:53,740 --> 00:54:56,080 So I did have a couple of questions. 517 00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:07,530 Yeah, and page 32 where it says that the EPA can do and the city staff are currently coordinating next step for these 11. 518 00:55:08,070 --> 00:55:20,130 I mean, I assume you have already identified what kind of steps to take or, you know, I'll tell you just kind of a couple of questions I have is from people that I've heard over the years. 519 00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:25,110 It's unfortunate, but I think there are some people who probably have violated. 520 00:55:26,530 --> 00:55:32,190 maybe knowingly maybe not knowingly and because the BMR after all it is an 521 00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:38,350 opportunity for somebody to own a house and others who don't feel they feel like 522 00:55:38,350 --> 00:55:43,510 wait somebody's cheating on this and the city just lets it go and it's not fair 523 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:48,650 and it sort of erodes the trust I mean definitely I think this is the first time 524 00:55:48,650 --> 00:55:53,870 we had such a complete report but I mean I just want to so I'm just 525 00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:57,670 assuming that you guys are already, and I think Duane, you mentioned there's already steps 526 00:55:57,670 --> 00:56:01,630 you're taking to approach each case, as it is, making sure. 527 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:06,520 Yeah, so, I mean, I assume 528 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,620 that that's already in progress, right? You're not just kind of letting them go, right? 529 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,580 Yeah, absolutely. Rachel, go ahead. 530 00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:23,140 I was just going to say, yeah, we are definitely not letting them go. 531 00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:28,960 We have, I get briefed quite often on the specific cases. 532 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:40,200 The 11 are not equally, how to say, urgent or they're not exactly the same nature. 533 00:56:40,700 --> 00:56:50,760 So they're really only maybe one or two where there's a real concern where, as I said, the city would have to step in and issue a notice of default. 534 00:56:50,760 --> 00:57:10,600 We haven't even reached that point. So, yes, we're definitely, we're not just letting them sit, but we have discussed how EPA can do working with the homeowner is the preferable line of action before we, the city gets involved 535 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:18,100 doing that you can be more specific. Yeah okay no so I understand and yeah I think it it was 536 00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:24,520 definitely a good investment for the city to contract out and have this work done so my other 537 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:31,500 question was on the and I forget how where we came from but I assume it's general fund 538 00:57:32,260 --> 00:57:37,800 city's general fund money that is paying for this in other words the contract that went to 539 00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:40,340 Is that general fund money? 540 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,500 It's not entirely general fund. 541 00:57:42,740 --> 00:57:46,160 The contract was actually, the funding sources were split. 542 00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:52,560 So partially it was funded by general fund, but also by, I believe it was the Anlu fund. 543 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,300 Is it 2019? 544 00:57:54,780 --> 00:57:56,800 I never get the fund numbers correct. 545 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,540 So it's not all, it's not all general fund. 546 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,660 There's a special revenue in there as well. 547 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:16,100 because so I guess one of my concerns is just that that it it does seem that oh no there 548 00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:28,240 was it kind of a related one was that I think part of this was part of the contract was to 549 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:40,820 You know, between the staff and EPA can do sort of work on, and there was a line here, I can't find it, but like, like, what is the best way to administer a program like this, right? 550 00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:56,580 Because I think that was something that clearly after redevelopment, and even before, but there's really no administration of it, it just kind of fell thoroughly through the cracks unless there was some huge problem that the city council 551 00:58:56,580 --> 00:59:03,860 became aware of, but is that part of the discussion that, you know, from now on or in the future, 552 00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:09,820 how are we going to administer this and how are we going to pay for it? Because there is, 553 00:59:10,180 --> 00:59:15,880 I think there was also a little comment there about the fact that, you know, none of the 554 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:21,880 homeowners are helping to pay for this, which to me seems like they should contribute something 555 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,200 because they did get a huge benefit. 556 00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:33,800 And I assume that it was probably not written in the regulations or in the contract and all of that. 557 00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:40,020 So, anyway, I'd be interested in some work in that area that may already be going on. 558 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:47,380 It's probably something the city attorney's office could look at so that if there's any potential revisions later on, 559 00:59:47,380 --> 00:59:58,780 Or did any new ones come in that, you know, because I think it did really did hurt us. I remember asking one of the city manager some years ago, like, you know, I keep getting all these questions. 560 00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,280 So why do you. 561 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,680 And basically, you know, very honestly, they told me, well, we really don't have the capacity to be 562 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:13,720 doing this, tracking this, right? So, okay, you know, it's not a good answer for the public to say, 563 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:19,280 we don't know what's going on, but I think now we're in a very good position and there's a great 564 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:27,800 report. So that's one area I'm interested in how if for the future or even the current regulations, 565 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,820 if there are any ones that could be modified or something. One is on the cost, because I 566 01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:37,600 think it would be fair, at least to consider that each homeowner contributes some amount 567 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:45,020 or something that covers the cost of helping out and stuff. But any thoughts on that? 568 01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:52,580 Yes. And now I'm, I apologize, now I'm with, I understand what you were referring 569 01:00:52,580 --> 01:00:52,780 to. 570 01:00:52,780 --> 01:01:09,620 Yeah, well, I'm kind of jumping around but yeah, but, but this is actually a very important point perhaps was I did not emphasize it in the presentation but I think that the, the initial, the impetus for this contract was clear and the funding sources 571 01:01:09,620 --> 01:01:21,660 probably reflected the fact that there was no, you know, it was kind of dormant for a time there wasn't there weren't a lot of funds flowing into the program to be you know, not all of our funding sources are not flexible that we can use them 572 01:01:21,660 --> 01:01:22,900 for things like BMR administration. 573 01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:27,440 So I would say the startup costs associated with this contract 574 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,600 and because a lot of it really was startup, again, 575 01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:35,780 to build up this program, that will come to an end. 576 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,860 And then there is a question about the sustainability 577 01:01:38,660 --> 01:01:40,360 of a BMR program. 578 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,700 As we have inclusionary units coming online, you know, 579 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,280 how are we going to be able to continue to monitor those? 580 01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:47,380 We can't do what we did before, right? 581 01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:50,620 It's definitely a different type of, yeah. 582 01:01:52,220 --> 01:01:56,400 It's different, perhaps even a different role that the BMR administrator would play. 583 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:03,680 So for one, we do have an inclusionary program now where we will have in-loop fees coming in. 584 01:02:03,980 --> 01:02:06,820 So there is that source. 585 01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:15,400 But it is true also that we do not currently the model is not to charge homeowners or, you know, 586 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:22,000 indirectly collect those funds for BMR administration that does exist in some BMR programs. 587 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,800 And there are other models for BMR administration. 588 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:32,080 So that is definitely a conversation that we will have in the future. 589 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:37,000 But I think it would separate from these initial three years where there was really 590 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,300 so much setup involved getting the wheels turning on this. 591 01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:53,180 Also, Dwayne, I would invite you to comment because we have a lot of experience in this area and we have talked about the nature of a BMR program as more units come online. 592 01:02:56,930 --> 01:03:00,070 Specifically to the fees specifically 593 01:03:05,740 --> 01:03:06,880 to the fees. 594 01:03:08,860 --> 01:03:14,760 There is a range of practice. Rachel's right. Most of the programs don't charge. 595 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:33,940 The, you know, we did a study about 10 years ago at the county of the, at the time there were 11 programs, I think, in existence, and they all had slightly different funding sources using some of the in lieu fees was was one that was popular. 596 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:40,820 Another was if you have a program where there's quite a bit of turnover, you can charge, you 597 01:03:40,820 --> 01:03:45,560 know, something as part of the resale process that can help with admin a little bit. 598 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:52,520 Our program, I think probably because as programs go, people haven't owned the homes 599 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,220 that long. 600 01:03:53,400 --> 01:04:00,580 There isn't very fast turnover, but it's something that we should look at. 601 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:16,300 If I may also just, it's not something that jumped out of the staff report, but I want to give a quick shout out to our two partners in this process, and I think it does impinge on this. 602 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:27,140 The city staff actually has a real depth of experience in this several, you know, no place to put it in the staff report but I'll say it quite publicly. 603 01:04:27,140 --> 01:04:30,560 There's actually years of experience in the existing city staff. 604 01:04:30,940 --> 01:04:38,660 We right now, even though we're outsourcing dysfunction, so city staff can can concentrate on some other areas. 605 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:46,680 The city staff ability to oversee the program is really the highest it's ever been historically. 606 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,740 The other thing is that we do partner with a regional administrator. 607 01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:56,200 There are about three of them that together have almost all of, almost all of the cities 608 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:02,580 who don't do this in-house contract with one of the three, you know, regional operators. 609 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:08,300 And they're able to bring some expertise and economies of scale to the administration. 610 01:05:09,020 --> 01:05:13,540 So it wouldn't, because it's that concentrated and we all know each other in the business, 611 01:05:13,540 --> 01:05:19,040 it actually wouldn't be that hard to do a little study of how, you know, what the funding sources 612 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,880 of different cities. Two thirds of the cities in the Bay Area have some form of inclusion 613 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:30,540 or housing, so it's, there's a good range of practice there to look at. Okay. And then my last 614 01:05:30,540 --> 01:05:37,420 just little reminder is when there's a lottery of the people who obviously sort of qualified to 615 01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:44,040 be in the lottery, and so it's been successful getting EPA residents. But in this whole world 616 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:50,980 of BMRs and lotteries, people can apply even if they don't live in the city. Is that correct? 617 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:59,780 So it's really open to anyone anywhere. And I mean, the opposite is true. EPA residents 618 01:05:59,780 --> 01:06:06,340 could win the lottery somewhere else, that, and okay, all right, but that's, that's good 619 01:06:06,340 --> 01:06:14,800 that is benefiting a lot of local residents, so that's good. Okay, any other comments or 620 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:20,060 questions? Otherwise, we'll just accept the report and then we'll continue to work on this. 621 01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:23,960 And thank you very much, everyone, Stephanie, that all the partners, 622 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,900 like this air reminder. 623 01:06:27,500 --> 01:06:33,540 Okay. All right, well, let's then move on to our next staff report, 624 01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:41,000 difference report. This deals with the water rate. I know every so often the San Francisco 625 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:47,140 Public Utility Commission, they do their wholesale water rate increases and 626 01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:55,200 It's something that nobody likes, but that ends up being passed down to everybody. 627 01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:58,580 But, Jaime, who will help us with that? 628 01:06:58,780 --> 01:07:00,960 You're right, Mayor. Nobody likes this. 629 01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:04,140 But the news, Greg Henry, go ahead and present it, please. 630 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,200 The Mayor has essentially said the hold of the report. 631 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,980 There's a rate change pending from SFPUC. 632 01:07:15,980 --> 01:07:22,780 and unfortunately that that has to be passed down to customers to cover the cost of the water so 633 01:07:24,060 --> 01:07:28,380 just to just to start the report I thought I would go through some terms because we're 634 01:07:28,380 --> 01:07:33,520 going to be throwing around some acronyms and stuff so first SFPUC that stands for the San 635 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,840 Francisco Public Utilities Commission that's who we get who the city water utility gets its 636 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:44,300 water from the wholesale rate is the rate that the city pays for that water is currently 637 01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:56,940 $4.10 a CCF or 100 cubic feet, which is, you know, like if you take a football field 638 01:07:57,860 --> 01:08:02,940 and it's like a two inches deep, it's hard to imagine how that volume of water. 639 01:08:03,380 --> 01:08:09,740 And then the retail rate is the rate that's charged by the city to customers and it's 640 01:08:09,740 --> 01:08:20,440 currently at $7.66 a CCF. And the reason for that difference is that there's additional 641 01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:24,640 cost that the city water utility has to pay, other than just the cost of water, it has 642 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:33,880 to pay FIOLIA, who provides the operational elements. And then it has to provide maintenance 643 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:40,340 costs and other financial elements, so that's why there's a difference between those two 644 01:08:40,340 --> 01:08:40,780 rates. 645 01:08:43,260 --> 01:08:49,320 So SFPUC has indicated, has notified the city that it plans on increasing the wholesale rate. 646 01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:59,560 The plan currently is to go to $4.75 a CCF in fiscal year 2223, so those new rates 647 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:06,620 would potentially are planned to be effective July 1st of this year, which would be a 64-cent 648 01:09:06,620 --> 01:09:15,560 increase per CCF, well, which is an increase of 15.9 percent. And they've already informed 649 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:22,280 us that they're planning on another increase for the next fiscal year of $5.28 a CCF, 650 01:09:22,420 --> 01:09:28,620 which is a 63-cent. But the increase as a percentage would be lower because they 651 01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:36,540 would have already increased the water rates. This is a chart to show sort of 652 01:09:36,540 --> 01:09:44,340 like over time what SFPUC rates have done and you can see that since 16-17 653 01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:48,180 there hasn't been an increase in the wholesale water rates. That's a pretty 654 01:09:48,180 --> 01:09:52,740 long time to go without any increases. Normally you try and do smaller 655 01:09:52,740 --> 01:09:58,540 increases every year but so that's not such a shock but this year we're 656 01:09:58,540 --> 01:10:02,400 getting sort of like all the catch-up on all the previous years. 657 01:10:04,820 --> 01:10:05,400 So the city 658 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:12,480 responds what's the impact going to be for city water customers. The city 659 01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:16,560 should increase the retail rate, right? If we don't increase the retail rate 660 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,900 then we have to subsidize the water utility with general fund money, which 661 01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:28,740 is a non-optimal use generally of general fund money. Generally the rate 662 01:10:28,740 --> 01:10:42,260 increases to customers require the Proposition 218 process. In fact, every other time that SFPUC has increased the water rates, the city has gone through a Prop 218 process to update its resulting rates. 663 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,700 But there is an allowance for something called pass-through costs. 664 01:10:48,300 --> 01:11:04,620 So a pass-through provision, it allows you to increase costs which are outside the city's control, so that's typically the cost of water, but with other, it could be the cost of energy, it could be any incoming input that the city doesn't control, that it has to pay for. 665 01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:11,440 You're allowed to put that cost as an element of a pass-through cost. 666 01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:16,700 And then you have to identify what that element is when you do your regular Proposition 218. 667 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:22,020 When you do your regular Proposition 218, you have to identify the pass-through calculation. 668 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:30,380 And then, should that cost be increased, then your retail rate can be increased 669 01:11:30,380 --> 01:11:35,420 through a simple resolution instead of the full Proposition 218 process. 670 01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:51,940 If you do do it that way, you have to notify all the customers via a mailed notification, so all the customers would be notified through the mailer that their rate would be going up beyond the scheduled increase. 671 01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:05,260 So what we did back when we set the rates last time, when we set the regular 218 process is we set the rates. 672 01:12:05,260 --> 01:12:28,480 For regular scheduled increases beginning in July 2019 and then annually every July 1st through July 2023, and we added this pass through provision which said for every 1 cent increase over the $4.10, the pass through provision allows for a 1.2 cent increase in the retail rate. 673 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:35,820 So we have all of the elements that we need for a pass through provision and cost. 674 01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:50,360 And so we're proposing that we would in so generally, we, we've been notified by SFPC that they're planning on intending to increase their rates but they haven't formalized that yet. 675 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:56,440 And in fact, it could be a little bit different than what they've notified us of. 676 01:12:56,700 --> 01:13:05,020 And I think we got an email on Monday that they were maybe going to increase it even more than, you know, they ended up deciding not to. 677 01:13:05,180 --> 01:13:13,720 But there was language as recent as last Monday that the increase was going to be more than what they were telling us. 678 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:22,820 So we're waiting until May until they finalize when they're going to, what the increase is actually going to be for fiscal year 2223. 679 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:35,300 When we have the final approved number, we'll be coming back to Council to ask for the pass-through provision to modify the rates. 680 01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:40,640 at this time, you can see just, so it will, if scheduled, 681 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,880 it looks like it'll go to about $8.55. 682 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:48,900 That includes an increase of $0.10, which was already scheduled to the rate. 683 01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:52,700 So it's both the regular scheduled rate increase on July 1st, 684 01:13:52,700 --> 01:13:56,760 plus this pass through provisions, both things would be occurring at the same time. 685 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,700 So that's what we've got. 686 01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:02,900 I'm here to answer any questions. 687 01:14:05,410 --> 01:14:12,390 Yes, let me ask council members if there are any questions or comments on the, and we'll, 688 01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:18,570 something will be coming back to us, but at this point just quick information, yes, 689 01:14:20,850 --> 01:14:21,350 anybody. 690 01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:23,670 Okay. 691 01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:31,910 Are there any requests from the public, James, that you can see on this item, the water? 692 01:14:35,550 --> 01:14:36,650 I'm seeing none, Mayor. 693 01:14:37,190 --> 01:14:37,630 Okay. 694 01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:46,370 Thank you for the report and I'm there because I think this is also a good time while we're 695 01:14:46,370 --> 01:14:50,650 talking about pass-through rates to remind everyone that we're still in a drought and 696 01:14:50,650 --> 01:14:52,430 that is going to be a huge issue. 697 01:14:52,910 --> 01:14:57,310 But to reinforce that there's a drought, we should be conserving water anyway, but 698 01:14:57,310 --> 01:14:58,870 be mindful of that at this time. 699 01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:59,350 Yeah. 700 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,780 Yes, that's right. 701 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,480 Through the chair. 702 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,580 Yes, go ahead. 703 01:15:07,340 --> 01:15:17,660 My, maybe it's part question, part concern, but we've obviously expressed many times that 704 01:15:17,660 --> 01:15:26,480 we have a number of residents in East Palo Alto that are well below the AMI. 705 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:34,900 And it's also time when food is more expensive, gas is more expensive, obviously water is now 706 01:15:34,900 --> 01:15:42,900 becoming more expensive as well. I wonder if it might be possible for us to explore some 707 01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:49,320 subsidies or credits or something to help enable our residents to get over this hum 708 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:57,740 as they get upward pressure on costs across the board and I don't know if the Water District 709 01:15:57,740 --> 01:16:06,940 or the San Francisco Public Utilities and Public Water has talked about this that feels 710 01:16:06,940 --> 01:16:12,340 like something that we might need to or consider pursuing just to make sure that no one falls 711 01:16:12,340 --> 01:16:13,000 to the cracks. 712 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:31,200 I would only add to that that the way that water rates are designed by state law in California should a program like that be considered by the council, it would have to come from the general fund. 713 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,180 We can't use the water rates themselves to subsidize some customers from other customers. 714 01:16:36,180 --> 01:16:45,260 but certainly that is something that quite a few other cities or just water districts 715 01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:48,680 have considered or engaged in. 716 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:51,260 Thank you. 717 01:16:52,340 --> 01:16:52,620 Okay. 718 01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:54,600 Okay. 719 01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:02,340 If there are no other questions or comments, then thank you for the report again and 720 01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:03,620 the information. 721 01:17:04,340 --> 01:17:11,920 So, the next item is special presentations and another water-related topic, but more 722 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:18,800 on the flooding side. And this is an update on the San Francisco Cree joint powers authority 723 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:29,380 projects. And I know the executive director of our JPA, Margaret Bruce, I think, is giving 724 01:17:29,380 --> 01:17:35,580 In that, James, if anybody from our staff is also involved, or Jaime, I was going to 725 01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:38,020 say, if anybody else from our staff is involved. 726 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,460 Hamza, will you be introducing Margaret Bruce? She is in attendance. Please. 727 01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:47,400 Yes, we'll go ahead and pass it on to Margaret. Yes, she's here to give us an update. 728 01:17:50,130 --> 01:17:53,490 Okay. Good evening, everyone. Members of the council and honourable mail. 729 01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:58,950 It's great to see you this evening and great to be with you. Thank you so much 730 01:17:58,950 --> 01:18:05,330 for allowing us to do a quick update on the two projects that are of interest to East Palo Alto. 731 01:18:05,950 --> 01:18:09,190 I'm going to share my screen now and just go through a few slides. 732 01:18:20,540 --> 01:18:25,060 Can everyone see my screen and are you seeing the presentation view? 733 01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:28,460 Yes, I think. 734 01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:29,640 Okay. 735 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:38,220 So, very quickly, this is we're going to talk about these two general areas on this opening slide highlighted in blue. 736 01:18:38,220 --> 01:18:41,800 The blue line on the top is where we'll start. 737 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,240 We're going to start from the shoreline and work our way uphill. 738 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:53,700 So the Safer Bay program is an acronym for the strategy to advance flood protection, 739 01:18:54,020 --> 01:18:59,040 ecosystems, and recreation along the San Francisco Bay shoreline. 740 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:05,500 The entire Safer Bay project extends from the northern border of Menlo Park to the 741 01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:11,580 the southern border of East Palo Alto where it meets the San Francisco Creek Project at the south. 742 01:19:12,260 --> 01:19:23,600 It actually, on this map, on the little blue line, it really should extend further up Highway 84 to encompass the PG&E substation, but that little part is off this map. 743 01:19:24,820 --> 01:19:39,700 So the reason for, and the goals for the program are to provide nature-based protection wherever possible. Sometimes you will hear this expressed as both gray and green infrastructure. 744 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,560 It's to protect properties and critical infrastructure. 745 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:56,560 There are roads and businesses, schools and substations and thousands of residents who live in the tidal floodplain. 746 01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:05,240 And as sea level rises, as you can see in this kind of alarming map, there are many, many critical places, 747 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:10,040 as residents, as businesses, others that are going to be impacted directly by sea level 748 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:15,060 rise and by emergent groundwater that is going to come along with that phenomenon. 749 01:20:15,980 --> 01:20:22,240 What we want to do is protect these critical elements of East Palo Alto and Menlo Park 750 01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:28,880 and at the same time enhance the natural ecosystems that we are able to enhance 751 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:36,660 and restore, which will also provide us flood protection in there by enhancing their restoring 752 01:20:36,660 --> 01:20:43,320 their natural functions. And by making them restored and connected to our existing recreation 753 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:49,660 infrastructure, we can increase recreational opportunities. So, this is something that 754 01:20:49,660 --> 01:20:55,540 goes back actually many years. There was a beginning feasibility study back in 2012. 755 01:20:55,540 --> 01:21:09,780 There was a more recent one done in 2016, although we are using the, there's a reference to the estimated costs for the project that go back to 2016. 756 01:21:10,460 --> 01:21:14,460 But so much time has elapsed since that feasibility study. 757 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:21,780 Those numbers are probably no longer good to stand on. It's going to cost more than the 2016 numbers. 758 01:21:21,780 --> 01:21:27,340 Anyway, just to catch everybody up to where we were and where we are. 759 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:37,820 Back in 2018, there was a Cal OES FEMA grant application for a hazard mitigation grant program grant. 760 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:39,760 Those are through FEMA. 761 01:21:40,940 --> 01:21:44,260 They administer the money through Cal OES. 762 01:21:44,260 --> 01:21:53,440 Cal OES at the state level gets the large sums of money from the federal government and passes through and administrates that funding. 763 01:21:54,320 --> 01:22:06,060 The HMGP grant has, we understand, for East Palo Alto completed its environmental and historical review process with FEMA, which took a while. 764 01:22:06,060 --> 01:22:17,540 And at some point soon, we understand, and I quote marks around the word soon because I have no idea how long soon is in FEMA world. 765 01:22:18,140 --> 01:22:30,320 But we all should, East Palo Alto should be hearing about the completion of that and the release of funding for the Phase 1 of this HMGP grant. 766 01:22:33,730 --> 01:22:42,050 Back in 2018, it's important to remember that the city of East Palo Alto was inspired to 767 01:22:42,050 --> 01:22:50,570 and stepped up to the plate for a city match of $5.5 million to the $17.2 million HMGP 768 01:22:50,570 --> 01:22:50,830 grant. 769 01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:55,230 So it's a very significant grant that will be coming our way, again, in phases. 770 01:22:55,230 --> 01:22:56,470 And 771 01:22:58,580 --> 01:23:06,540 to let you know kind of where we are with everything, this is a really quick refresher. 772 01:23:07,260 --> 01:23:18,480 If you can see, and you probably can't see my cursor, but working from the lower right-hand corner of the map, working up through the various colorful reaches, 773 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:33,440 We will be releasing a notice of preparation that will encompass all of these reaches in a programmatic EIR, which means just a very high-level all-encompassing environmental impact review. 774 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:43,360 And that same document will be a project-level EIR for the Phase 1 work in East Palo Alto and around the PG&E substation. 775 01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:46,040 And I'll get to that in just a moment. 776 01:23:47,220 --> 01:23:55,720 So, the notice of preparation or an NOP is particularly important because it's our opportunity 777 01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:03,600 to reach out to local organizations, agencies, residents, businesses, non-governmental organizations 778 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:10,920 and other interested individuals and ensure that we have good local coordination and 779 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:15,100 and that all stakeholders have an opportunity to provide their input. 780 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:24,100 We are in the process of the environmental review going to be looking at the hydrodynamic 781 01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:25,300 effects of levees. 782 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:31,460 What that means is that some places a levee is going to be helpful for restoring marsh 783 01:24:31,460 --> 01:24:31,940 areas. 784 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:39,660 In particular, the two green blobs at the middle top of your screen there are the 785 01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:45,820 ponds that are going to be restored as part of phase one. That restoration work is going 786 01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:54,060 to enable us to do what's called a self-mitigating project. Those restored ponds will protect 787 01:24:54,540 --> 01:25:01,420 the 84 corridor in the West Dunbarton approach, the PG&E substation, and the northern part 788 01:25:01,420 --> 01:25:07,440 of East Palo Alto. They will also allow us to continue through the rest of the reaches 789 01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:15,060 because that will have already mitigated the impacts we might cause in the process of providing flood protection elsewhere. 790 01:25:17,180 --> 01:25:25,280 It's important to recognize that East Palo Alto and Milmo Park shorelines are kind of like one side of a bathtub. 791 01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:41,260 And the work that we're going to do with flood protection on our west side of the bay will have tidal and other hydrodynamic effects on the other side of the bay and even farther north. 792 01:25:41,260 --> 01:25:57,560 So as we do our levy and seawall and ecotone levy planning, we have to be aware of and sensitive to the fact that what we do here is going to have repercussions elsewhere. 793 01:25:57,820 --> 01:26:05,540 And we want to be very careful about not externalizing, you know, their costs but our benefits. 794 01:26:05,540 --> 01:26:12,140 So you have to make sure that we strike a good balance in this complicated project. 795 01:26:14,170 --> 01:26:17,390 So we have a draft community engagement plan. 796 01:26:17,690 --> 01:26:23,730 It is available on our website and we're happy to distribute the draft to anyone who is interested. 797 01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:30,170 We want to make sure that we reach as many members of the community, agencies, 798 01:26:30,170 --> 01:26:38,710 non-governmental organizations, environmental groups, businesses, everybody who may have 799 01:26:38,710 --> 01:26:46,870 an interest in how this project will affect, benefit, or may impact their lives. 800 01:26:48,130 --> 01:26:53,010 To help with that, we are partnering with Climate Resilient Communities and Newestercasa. 801 01:26:53,450 --> 01:26:55,670 We are forming an advisory board. 802 01:26:55,670 --> 01:27:01,810 We will be doing our work in the outreach context in multiple languages. 803 01:27:02,530 --> 01:27:10,710 And of course we want to have the outcome of this be an engaged community that understands the benefits of this project to them. 804 01:27:11,550 --> 01:27:15,690 We benefit from the wisdom of the community in our design of the project. 805 01:27:15,690 --> 01:27:25,830 And we result in a community that is protected, an ecosystem that is restored, and there's a sense of pride and ownership in the outcome. 806 01:27:26,930 --> 01:27:37,130 So our draft engagement plan is open for public comment, and if anyone would care to review that and offer us their comment, we are very happy to receive that. 807 01:27:37,130 --> 01:27:38,090 So 808 01:27:40,650 --> 01:27:48,170 there are, again, these are just a couple of visuals of where we are with our funded work. 809 01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:53,250 The areas in yellow are the phase one part that is funded. 810 01:27:54,030 --> 01:28:02,790 The site B levy around the PG&E substation in the bottom picture is what I was explaining will help us begin the restoration work. 811 01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:12,330 And the site A Levy on the southern reaches will protect the residential areas between Bay Road and the San Francisco Creek. 812 01:28:13,130 --> 01:28:24,570 The entire Safer Bay project won't be complete until all of the reaches are complete and Caltrans does the Highway 84 upgrades that are necessary. 813 01:28:24,570 --> 01:28:32,230 However, every single individual piece that we work on does have independent utility and benefits. 814 01:28:34,530 --> 01:28:43,490 We have, again, we have funding for this work and we have preliminary funding for the upcoming environmental work. 815 01:28:44,050 --> 01:28:52,150 We, of course, are always looking for additional grants and some additional support for the environmental work. 816 01:28:52,150 --> 01:28:59,230 It's important to note that last February, there was an announcement of a California 817 01:28:59,230 --> 01:29:09,890 program to support local governments who had provided local match for HMGP grants and step 818 01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:14,430 in and have the state provide the local match rather than the local government. 819 01:29:15,770 --> 01:29:28,350 I think East Palo Alto submitted a request for that support from the state, and we should hear within six months or so the outcome of that application. 820 01:29:31,940 --> 01:29:40,760 And just a really quick recap, the cost estimate from 2016, we have 17.2 pending notification. 821 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:45,200 We have about $150,000 from a DWR grant. 822 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,820 We are making every penny count. 823 01:29:49,700 --> 01:29:59,780 And we have a tentative award of $1 million from the San Francisco Bay Regional Authority to be confirmed at their meeting on June 24th. 824 01:30:02,290 --> 01:30:13,930 And just real quick, this is the area of the Menlo Park Brick Grant that doesn't touch on East Palo Alto, but its completion will help protect East Palo Alto. 825 01:30:16,090 --> 01:30:29,330 And our schedule that's important for you to know about, we are going to release the notice of preparation for the environmental impact report during Earth Week of April 22. 826 01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:38,930 We have scheduled the two public meetings, May 11th and May 19th. These will be by Zoom. There will be Spanish language interpretation. 827 01:30:39,690 --> 01:30:53,770 And we will present the notice of preparation, the alternatives that we are looking at and provide a very similar presentation to what we're providing you this evening about the overall project in more depth. 828 01:30:53,770 --> 01:31:05,530 The idea is to do environmental design and documentation through 2024 and should all of the stars aligned begin construction in 2025. 829 01:31:06,670 --> 01:31:11,910 And that's my update on safer and I'll transition now to working our way uphill. 830 01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:19,350 As you know, we are also involved in providing protection against flooding from the San Francisco 831 01:31:19,350 --> 01:31:27,230 Dough Creek. It has burst its banks a number of times. Back in 1998, it flooded and was 832 01:31:27,230 --> 01:31:32,770 the catalyst for the creation of the Joint Powers Authority. The area that you see highlighted 833 01:31:32,770 --> 01:31:39,750 in yellow is the REACH 1 or downstream project that was completed in 2019. We're now working 834 01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:41,210 on the pink segment. 835 01:31:42,970 --> 01:31:47,910 The reason we're doing that is what you see highlighted in blue and red. 836 01:31:48,530 --> 01:31:54,970 The area in red on this flood map is the area that's now protected because of the Reach 837 01:31:54,970 --> 01:31:55,750 One project. 838 01:31:56,250 --> 01:32:02,310 The areas in blue indicate what is vulnerable to flooding from the creek bursting its 839 01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:10,590 banks because of either the two bridges, one at Pope Chaucer and one at Newell, who back up the 840 01:32:10,590 --> 01:32:16,050 water in the creek during high water or in areas where there are constrictions in the creek channel 841 01:32:16,050 --> 01:32:22,130 and it needs to be widened. So our beach two project, area in pink again from that other 842 01:32:22,130 --> 01:32:29,110 slide, we're working on replacing two bridges, one of them being done by Palo Alto, the other 843 01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:32,890 by us and widening the creek channel in four or five places. 844 01:32:34,810 --> 01:32:36,370 And this is what that looks like. 845 01:32:36,610 --> 01:32:42,470 There's the two bridges, Pope Chaucer, kind of at the far left, the Newell Bridge, right 846 01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:46,630 in the middle, and then the other areas are where we're looking at widening the channel. 847 01:32:50,810 --> 01:32:56,970 So we are just about ready to submit our permit applications to the regulatory agencies 848 01:32:57,670 --> 01:33:03,830 Because we work from downstream upstream, the first thing that needs to happen is the Newell Bridge. 849 01:33:04,990 --> 01:33:09,530 The year after that, we can do the channel widening work and Pope Chaucer. 850 01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:21,110 And the year following that, there is some top-of-bank work that needs to be done to reinforce some existing structures that are probably aging out of their useful life. 851 01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:22,270 Our 852 01:33:25,210 --> 01:33:29,130 project must estimate for the reach to project is $50 million. 853 01:33:30,190 --> 01:33:34,890 We have approximately $38 million of that identified. 854 01:33:35,410 --> 01:33:40,770 However, there are still some unknowns in the project costs and in grant funding. 855 01:33:41,030 --> 01:33:51,350 And so depending on how things play out, we could be looking at as little of a funding gap as $5 million to as much as $25 million. 856 01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:57,170 And I think for planning purposes, I'm asking folks to look at 12 million as the approximate 857 01:33:58,210 --> 01:34:01,290 amount to be shared by the JPA members. 858 01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,040 And that's all I have for my update at this point. 859 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,140 I hope you have questions. 860 01:34:11,500 --> 01:34:12,000 I'm happy to. 861 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:17,480 Yeah, so let's, yeah, thank you for the report on both areas. 862 01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:26,060 Yes. So, yeah, any questions from council members or comments? And then I can, I'll see if there are any public also comments. 863 01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:30,640 Anybody want to ask any clarifying questions? Go ahead. 864 01:34:31,740 --> 01:34:39,260 Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Marvin, for the report. Really informative. I certainly learned quite a bit through it. I'm sure the public did as well. 865 01:34:39,260 --> 01:34:55,580 So, I just have a tiny sort of question you mentioned there's obviously two threats or two biggest issues of sea level rise. A lot of people know about that in the community but I think the groundwater is another issue that people might you know I think it would be who of us to just kind of a refresher 866 01:34:55,580 --> 01:35:00,000 could you speak a little bit about the scale of that of an issue and what you know obviously. 867 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:02,960 Yeah, just what we're doing to tackle it. 868 01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:19,500 So let me preface my comment by saying the scale of the issue is unknown. So it is more of, it's a more important question to answer than we have information to answer right now. 869 01:35:19,500 --> 01:35:32,080 We know that it's going to happen because that's the nature of what happens near rising seas where there's flat ground. It's happening right now in Alameda. It's happening right now in Oakland. 870 01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:42,040 We would need to do more geotechnical investigations to understand the scope of the problem. We just know that it's going to be a problem. 871 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:46,960 So that's going to be sort of part of the scoping of our notice of preparation. 872 01:35:47,660 --> 01:35:50,380 How much of this are we going to need to examine? 873 01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,600 What are the appropriate strategies to address it? 874 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,400 We just – what's that? 875 01:35:56,500 --> 01:36:01,380 There's the known, known – this is the known, unknown category. 876 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,360 So super important question and one that we think about a lot. 877 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:08,740 I'm glad I asked it. 878 01:36:08,820 --> 01:36:09,460 Thank you so much. 879 01:36:09,660 --> 01:36:10,180 I look forward to – 880 01:36:10,180 --> 01:36:10,980 Thank you for your question. 881 01:36:10,980 --> 01:36:12,100 Thank you. 882 01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:14,280 Anybody else? 883 01:36:14,460 --> 01:36:15,440 Any other questions? 884 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:18,560 You're the chair. 885 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:19,000 I can. 886 01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:21,520 I have a few questions for Margaret. 887 01:36:21,580 --> 01:36:26,300 Margaret, thank you for the report as you're where I sit on or maybe where I sit on the 888 01:36:26,300 --> 01:36:31,400 one shoreline board and wondering will you come to the one shoreline to have this conversation 889 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:32,000 as well? 890 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:37,020 And is there just an organic partnership with our organization as well to make sure 891 01:36:37,020 --> 01:36:39,140 that these areas are covered? 892 01:36:39,260 --> 01:36:40,960 Because we're responsible for all of this. 893 01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:48,220 for both areas. Yes, yes, yes. Len and I speak frequently. There is more than an organic partnership 894 01:36:48,220 --> 01:36:57,680 there. This is in, really, it's in lens patch. This is really in one shoreline's patch. And I 895 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:03,640 inherited this from Len's early good work. This was something that was his brainchild, 896 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:11,520 East Palo Alto and Menlo Park's brainchild, and until one shoreline is in a position to 897 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:17,320 assume the mantle of this project, we will keep moving it forward with all due haste 898 01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:17,740 and focus. 899 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:25,620 When one shoreline says, okay, I can catch the baby, happy to hand this over. 900 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:32,420 Meanwhile, Len and I speak about at least once a month, and some of the things we 901 01:37:32,420 --> 01:37:40,220 discuss our funding opportunities, making sure that our standards are aligned. 902 01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:45,800 So if there are updates to the state's guidance, we're both following it the same way or interpreting 903 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:46,680 it the same way. 904 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:54,040 If there are city ordinance standards, for example, whether or not a city should have 905 01:37:54,040 --> 01:38:02,020 have the same building code, if you will, standard for how C-level rise should be taken 906 01:38:02,020 --> 01:38:08,360 into account, you know, where to the extent that the JPA has a voice on those matters, 907 01:38:08,620 --> 01:38:09,640 we are in concert. 908 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,920 So I appreciate that so much. 909 01:38:13,780 --> 01:38:17,620 One of my other questions had to do with the widening of the channel on the REH2. 910 01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:23,380 Now, and I know I think there have been some changes to the formula when it comes 911 01:38:23,380 --> 01:38:29,660 to widening the channels? Should we be concerned at all of water that may be coming down or 912 01:38:29,660 --> 01:38:35,460 debris that's coming down after the channel has been widened and reached one? Will that 913 01:38:35,460 --> 01:38:39,720 have an impact at all on reach? Reach two, will that have an impact on reach one? 914 01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:53,680 It should not have an impact on reach one for a couple of reasons. The capacity in 915 01:38:53,680 --> 01:39:00,900 reach one is so generous that it would, if debris from upstream made it through all of 916 01:39:00,900 --> 01:39:07,540 the widened places into reach one, it would only be actually an environmental benefit. 917 01:39:08,100 --> 01:39:16,820 Large woody debris provides habitat for migrating fish, for waterfowl, for estuarine species. 918 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,080 So it would not be a problem. 919 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:26,120 If it were still a confined and narrow place, it would be an issue, but it's not going to be an issue. 920 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:36,900 I want to caveat that with, we are concerned about the health of the upper watershed way outside of the areas we're working in. 921 01:39:37,540 --> 01:39:39,980 We are living in a hotter and drier world. 922 01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,460 Wildfires are a question of not if but when. 923 01:39:44,460 --> 01:39:56,020 And we frankly have no idea how a wildfire in the upper watershed would impact water quality, debris flows, sediment transport. We just don't know. 924 01:39:56,820 --> 01:40:08,280 So we hope to learn more about that someday, maybe hopefully not with real experience, but it is an issue that could impact the entire watershed. 925 01:40:09,260 --> 01:40:24,540 Thank you. And finally, my question on the levies and that work, are the developers whose land would be protected as well at the table talking about the resources and what's needed to protect their land when we think about the sea level rise? 926 01:40:24,820 --> 01:40:34,680 Yes, they sure are. We are involved with the Ravenswood Business District and with the individual developers and speak with them regularly. They are aware of the emerging plans. 927 01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:57,640 We are mutually aware of the likely benefits to their properties. There are some negotiations to be had about where the placement of the levee is with relation to their plan development, their property line, the BC-DC 100-foot setback, et cetera. 928 01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:03,960 In some places, we have a generous amount of space. In other places, there is very little space. 929 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:09,260 So our plans and designs will have to be adapted. 930 01:41:11,420 --> 01:41:18,340 Margaret, thank you so much for your presentation and for all the work that you're doing to keep us protected. We appreciate it. 931 01:41:18,340 --> 01:41:24,780 So, Margaret, I was going to just, and Vice Mayor, I was going to add a couple of footnotes 932 01:41:24,780 --> 01:41:32,780 on the questions you asked. One, on the water and the debris moving down into reach one. 933 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:41,480 Just a reminder that when, if you remember, Caltrans simultaneously when we were working 934 01:41:41,480 --> 01:41:52,380 on Reach One rebuilt the bridge on 101 and included a basically widened underneath the bridge 935 01:41:53,080 --> 01:42:00,920 to allow for much more water to come down. And of course the, you know, the channel, 936 01:42:01,220 --> 01:42:07,740 the creek was widened on Reach One to be able to take that water. So, and Margaret, I don't 937 01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:14,800 I don't remember right now. I think that section is currently closed because it's not really needed. 938 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:21,880 Even with that rate, even with that fourth war closed, the capacity is still very generous. 939 01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:34,660 Yes, so there is plenty of room. In other words, I think that we did sort of anticipate that, and just to be sure, so we were able to coordinate with Caltrans for that. 940 01:42:34,660 --> 01:42:38,720 So that's just sitting there to be open in case it was needed more. 941 01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:44,840 And then the other thing I did want to say, yeah, definitely I think Margaret and Len communicate regularly. 942 01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:54,100 And a few months ago, so the JPA board did ask, and we do have David, Supervisor David Pine, 943 01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:58,960 who sets on, you know, the JPA board in the one short line. 944 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:07,080 And so, there was a joint report by Margaret and Len on sort of the current situation with 945 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,560 Safer Bay in terms of jurisdictions, et cetera. 946 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:14,000 And so, I think, as Margaret said, for the time being, the JPA is really taking the 947 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:19,440 lead, but at some point, there'll be some transition potentially and stuff. 948 01:43:19,580 --> 01:43:22,600 But I think the communication is pretty good so far. 949 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:24,360 So, that's good. 950 01:43:24,660 --> 01:43:24,880 Anyway. 951 01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:30,040 Anyway, so any other questions from council members on anything that was presented? 952 01:43:31,460 --> 01:43:36,540 Yeah, just quickly. Well, I have a question about the supplemental EIR and the potential 953 01:43:36,540 --> 01:43:42,880 to need one. Clearly, we've done the EIR already for this next reach, I believe, and 954 01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:53,120 my concern is the supplemental may slow this down. Do you have any sense of how much 955 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:59,280 possible to commence the project if the items studied under the supplemental EIR are outside 956 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,580 of the creek, outside of the creek causeway itself. 957 01:44:03,340 --> 01:44:09,980 And then my last point is not a question, but it's more a statement that of the $12 958 01:44:09,980 --> 01:44:15,220 million you cite that at this point the four jurisdictions or five jurisdictions 959 01:44:15,220 --> 01:44:20,600 should be thinking about, and I think certainly both the mayor and the vice mayor are 960 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:25,760 aware of is that an equitable distribution of how that gets paid is important. And when 961 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:32,140 I talk about equity, I don't mean we're splitting it five ways. That's not me, obviously. The 962 01:44:32,140 --> 01:44:37,360 amount of money that the city put in on the first reach should be understood and respected 963 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:43,960 and seen and balanced with future contributions. So I just, I'm sure the mayor will make 964 01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:50,300 that abundantly clear during those discussions, but I just want to remind folks and the 965 01:44:50,300 --> 01:44:56,720 the JPA that certainly, when working with LEN, we were quite aware of that issue of up-fronting 966 01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,640 some of those costs on reach one, clearly not necessarily. 967 01:45:07,340 --> 01:45:18,580 So, I think that's going to be an important step that we'll take here in the next few months. 968 01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:26,340 And to your question about the supplemental EIR, it is going to be necessary, but I don't 969 01:45:26,340 --> 01:45:29,980 think it's going to slow the project down, because we can do things that are going to 970 01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:36,820 in parallel and not in sequence. We can be working on the bridges and the channel widening 971 01:45:36,820 --> 01:45:44,240 at the same time that we are doing the supplemental EIR and working forward, working toward doing the top of bank work. 972 01:45:45,180 --> 01:45:52,520 So it's, I think it's just going to sort of be folded into the pace of the rest of the project. 973 01:45:52,520 --> 01:46:03,580 If we tried to do this, like, do it at the same time as the rest of the work, I think we would be challenged. 974 01:46:03,860 --> 01:46:10,680 I think the top of bank work is potentially significant enough that it would not fit within the existing EIR, 975 01:46:11,420 --> 01:46:15,620 and I would not want that to be challenged. That would delay us further. 976 01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:25,740 Okay, I have another question that I'll probably ask you offline because I don't want to open up a particular one discussion right now. 977 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:31,480 Okay, I would be delighted to have a caller conversation with you and we could go through this in more detail. 978 01:46:32,020 --> 01:46:46,660 Yeah, yeah, and any, you know, obviously anybody feel free to call Margaret anytime on any issues that so I guess I'll add another footnote since I am representing the city and the JPA on the question of the financing and the, you know, 979 01:46:46,660 --> 01:46:51,760 distribution, if you will, among the five entities. I think just like we did last time, 980 01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:58,540 the board at some point, we will agendize so that the board has an opportunity to come up with 981 01:46:58,540 --> 01:47:04,920 some formula, in other words, some kind of formula that will then be applied and negotiated with 982 01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:10,040 each jurisdiction. But that is what we went through last time. I anticipate it will be a 983 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:20,840 very open and frank discussion, like we did last time, because there is a certain sensitivity. 984 01:47:21,660 --> 01:47:27,320 Not only our city that is the smallest and less resource, but even the two counties, 985 01:47:27,480 --> 01:47:33,620 if you remember the Santa Clara County and San Mateo County, are really very differently 986 01:47:33,620 --> 01:47:35,280 positioned when it comes to funding. 987 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:39,420 So, but anyway, I just want to add that at some point there will be opportunities for 988 01:47:39,940 --> 01:47:46,580 all member agencies to jump in and help us to develop some formula that can then Margaret 989 01:47:46,580 --> 01:47:48,920 can take and start working on it with each jurisdiction. 990 01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:50,440 So, thank you. 991 01:47:51,220 --> 01:47:53,320 Okay, any other questions or comments? 992 01:47:56,580 --> 01:48:01,260 And again, yeah, feel free to call Margaret, you know, for anything that comes to mind 993 01:48:01,260 --> 01:48:02,380 if it didn't today. 994 01:48:02,380 --> 01:48:12,860 Let me see if there are any members of the public who are wishing to ask a question or make a comment on this. James, do you see anyone requesting this? 995 01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:21,220 Yes, I see two members of the public. 996 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:21,880 Okay. 997 01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:27,520 Starting with Danny and Gail Wilkerson. 998 01:48:33,420 --> 01:48:35,740 Danny, if you can please unmute yourself. 999 01:48:41,900 --> 01:48:44,400 I think we can move on to Gail Wilkerson. 1000 01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:46,000 Okay. 1001 01:48:47,380 --> 01:48:48,720 Good evening again. 1002 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,760 I just have a question and curiosity. 1003 01:48:53,080 --> 01:49:02,500 I attended the public works meeting and they were talking about the water back there weeks and running me. 1004 01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:07,920 Of course, Mark dynam brings it up all the time because he lives back there. 1005 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:16,220 And it's curious. It's been flooding back there. I don't know if this is mentioned. I heard Lisa say some about levees. 1006 01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:24,520 But it's been flooding back there forever. I mean, ever since it's been here. That's why I was working yards back there. 1007 01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:32,360 Oh, how come those people haven't been satisfied? They pay taxes too. I know they did the garden part over there. 1008 01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,740 Are they peace milling this out? 1009 01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,380 How come they just can't do it all at one time? 1010 01:49:38,780 --> 01:49:42,180 I remember having to pick my kids up on running me 1011 01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:45,540 at that school from daycare and it was flooding. 1012 01:49:46,220 --> 01:49:48,120 And we could hardly get back there. 1013 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:50,800 Some of us had to park and then walk up to the school 1014 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,540 to retrieve our kids. 1015 01:49:53,020 --> 01:49:55,460 So it's all that in the plan. 1016 01:49:55,980 --> 01:49:59,360 Those people pay taxes, they should be satisfied. 1017 01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:05,920 It should not be any flooding back there at all at this point. 1018 01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:11,740 The only thing that one of the men told me is that, oh, we don't have enough money. 1019 01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:14,440 I mean, 100 years, you don't have enough money. 1020 01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:17,120 That just doesn't make any sense. 1021 01:50:17,220 --> 01:50:18,660 It does not compete with me. 1022 01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,560 And if I live back there, I started writing. 1023 01:50:22,220 --> 01:50:22,940 Thank you. 1024 01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:29,220 Thank you. 1025 01:50:29,420 --> 01:50:30,400 That was our only speaker. 1026 01:50:30,900 --> 01:50:31,200 Okay. 1027 01:50:31,780 --> 01:50:32,340 All right. 1028 01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:38,720 Okay. Well, if there's no other comments, questions from the council, I want to thank 1029 01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:46,720 Margaret very much for all your comments and presentations and stuff. All right. Thank you. 1030 01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:48,480 My pleasure. Thank you. 1031 01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:55,700 Okay. Moving on to our next item. Actually, the section is policy and action. We don't have 1032 01:50:55,700 --> 01:51:01,220 any public hearings. So we'll start out with number one, and that's the Interim City 1033 01:51:01,220 --> 01:51:02,540 Manager Employment Agreement. 1034 01:51:05,980 --> 01:51:07,460 And I think— 1035 01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:08,800 Thank you, Mayor. 1036 01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:11,160 I'm going to turn it over to Valerie Armento, who is a buddy. 1037 01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,720 I might have to note that Patrick is ready. 1038 01:51:13,860 --> 01:51:18,080 We need you to support this item so he can keep the ship afloat when I transition. 1039 01:51:18,340 --> 01:51:19,060 Please proceed, Valerie. 1040 01:51:19,620 --> 01:51:20,060 So, Valerie. 1041 01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:20,360 Yes. 1042 01:51:20,660 --> 01:51:20,840 Yes. 1043 01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:22,180 Good evening. 1044 01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:29,880 So, the council has decided to appoint Patrick Heisinger as the interim city 1045 01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:35,900 the manager commencing basically 5pm on April 30th. 1046 01:51:36,340 --> 01:51:44,060 The agreement in the packet unfortunately was not completely accurate with regard to the compensation. 1047 01:51:45,580 --> 01:52:08,060 So I want to clarify that the agreement provides for an annualized salary of $222,500 and total compensation, including pay, health coverage, pension contributions, and leave and allowances of approximately $280,000, 1048 01:52:08,060 --> 01:52:19,660 which is less than the current city manager is earning, but more than Mr. Heijinger is earning as the assistant city manager. 1049 01:52:21,860 --> 01:52:35,960 And basically, with the exception of the specific salary, the benefits that he's receiving are essentially the same benefits that he has been receiving as a management level employee. 1050 01:52:35,960 --> 01:53:00,320 He also has a right of return to his assistant city manager position if an appointment is made to the city manager position that he can retain his assistant city manager position when this interim period ends for at least six months. 1051 01:53:03,620 --> 01:53:15,500 Okay, yeah, there any questions and thank you for that update and, you know, definitely want to thank you and Greg Larson for at the direction of the council to work with 1052 01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:23,820 Well, the city manager and Patrick to come up with a contract that stayed within the limits 1053 01:53:23,820 --> 01:53:26,160 of the council but direction. 1054 01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:27,980 Any questions or comments? 1055 01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:35,680 And this is obviously a public document that we'll need to approve by resolution. 1056 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,660 But any questions or comments by any council member? 1057 01:53:42,900 --> 01:53:48,340 And do we have any requests from the public that you see, James? 1058 01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:52,020 Seeing none, Mayor. 1059 01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:53,140 Okay. 1060 01:53:54,540 --> 01:53:54,860 Okay. 1061 01:53:55,020 --> 01:53:56,560 I'm ready to make a motion if you. 1062 01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:57,460 Okay, yeah. 1063 01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,180 So I was going to ask for that. 1064 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,100 So if you want to make a motion and then we can. 1065 01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:06,560 And again, thanks to staff for correcting the incongruities in the staff in the staff report. 1066 01:54:06,740 --> 01:54:07,440 Appreciate that. 1067 01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:12,760 So with that, I would move to adopt a resolution to appointing Patrick Heisinger as the interim 1068 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:16,740 city manager and approving the interim city manager employment agreement. 1069 01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:18,240 Second. 1070 01:54:18,820 --> 01:54:21,360 Okay, it's been moved and seconded, if we can have roll call. 1071 01:54:22,740 --> 01:54:23,620 Mayor Abrika. 1072 01:54:24,420 --> 01:54:24,700 Yes. 1073 01:54:25,480 --> 01:54:26,600 Council Member Wallace-Jones. 1074 01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:27,600 Yes. 1075 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:29,080 Council Member Lopez. 1076 01:54:29,740 --> 01:54:30,320 Yes. 1077 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,020 Council Member Romero. 1078 01:54:32,580 --> 01:54:32,900 Yes. 1079 01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:34,660 And Vice Mayor Gurshey. 1080 01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:35,500 Yes. 1081 01:54:35,500 --> 01:54:36,640 Motion carries. 1082 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:47,880 Moving on to item number 2, under policy and action, is the 2223 City Council priority. 1083 01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:55,260 So this is a document coming back to us with more details from our retreat, which has been 1084 01:54:55,260 --> 01:55:03,920 you know, a while now, but I think Jaime and Greg, I think you guys are going to— 1085 01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:07,800 Patrick and Greg will tag team this one. Let's launch, guys. 1086 01:55:08,500 --> 01:55:10,230 Yeah, so just let us know what— 1087 01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,760 Yeah, actually, Greg, just hop on in. Thank you. 1088 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:15,000 Go ahead. 1089 01:55:15,420 --> 01:55:21,860 Great. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, Mr. Manager and Mr. Interim 1090 01:55:21,860 --> 01:55:27,440 City Manager. Thank you for the time and thank you for the attention you gave to 1091 01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:33,460 the City Council's priorities last January. For the third year in a row, I've had the honor of 1092 01:55:33,460 --> 01:55:38,880 serving you in this capacity, but the first time reporting back to you on this evening. 1093 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:46,160 What you have before you in the packet is my staff report from that workshop 1094 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,160 that details what the council discussed. 1095 01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:54,560 That begins on your agenda packet on page 116, 1096 01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,480 and that's a full workshop report that goes 1097 01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:00,300 through every agenda item that you discussed. 1098 01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,940 I do want to apologize in that, 1099 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:08,580 my not being aware of the city's naming nomenclature for your staff reports. 1100 01:56:09,020 --> 01:56:11,860 We have two exhibit A's before you tonight. 1101 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,560 We have exhibit A that's attached to the staff report, 1102 01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:21,480 report, which is the first draft of the staff work plan that staff usually brings back to 1103 01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:27,580 you by June of each year, and the draft that's in attached to the actual council agenda staff 1104 01:56:27,580 --> 01:56:34,800 report is the draft work plan that includes both the prior work plan items as well as 1105 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:40,760 the new ones just put in kind of a very base level that pending your action and 1106 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:42,060 changes you make tonight. 1107 01:56:42,060 --> 01:56:45,600 Staff will complete that matrix and bring it 1108 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,940 back as part of the budget adoption process. 1109 01:56:48,500 --> 01:56:50,160 Actually, that's a staff work plan. 1110 01:56:50,700 --> 01:56:52,500 That's how they plan to fulfill 1111 01:56:52,500 --> 01:56:56,260 your direction with the priorities and goals. 1112 01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:59,500 That's the second exhibit A, 1113 01:57:00,100 --> 01:57:03,100 which is to my workshop retreat report. 1114 01:57:03,740 --> 01:57:08,280 If I could ask Mr. Collins to put up on the screen, 1115 01:57:08,460 --> 01:57:11,480 the PowerPoint, I believe it was also sent to 1116 01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,840 each council member as an attachment. 1117 01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:19,980 It's just a simple representation of what we heard, 1118 01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:21,400 both your staff and myself, 1119 01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:25,280 from the council retreat on January 8th 1120 01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,900 as your direction on the priorities, 1121 01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:31,660 seven priority areas and 24 goals. 1122 01:57:35,380 --> 01:57:35,680 Yes. 1123 01:57:35,980 --> 01:57:36,820 Jumping in. 1124 01:57:37,300 --> 01:57:37,740 Bring it up. 1125 01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:38,920 Thank you. 1126 01:57:42,790 --> 01:57:44,390 And for those who are following along 1127 01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:53,490 on the agenda packet. It's page 132 of the Council agenda packet on the cumulative numbering. 1128 01:57:56,070 --> 01:58:03,690 So, this is the, let's go on. Here are the seven priority areas, if you could step back. 1129 01:58:04,390 --> 01:58:09,850 And these, the main changes from last year is the ordering of the priority areas, 1130 01:58:10,110 --> 01:58:14,910 in terms of the preparation for the Council going into your January retreat. 1131 01:58:14,910 --> 01:58:22,850 I received input from each of you on the relative presentations of these priority areas. 1132 01:58:23,230 --> 01:58:31,010 Plus, during the course of the retreat in January, we did some slight language changes to get them all in a consistent format. 1133 01:58:31,450 --> 01:58:34,050 Having a verb is the first word, for example. 1134 01:58:34,050 --> 01:58:40,050 since over the years they have morphed into differential language and we tried 1135 01:58:40,050 --> 01:58:44,970 to standardize all that for the purposes of this adoption tonight. 1136 01:58:45,590 --> 01:58:49,890 Other than that, the only other significant change from last year is 1137 01:58:49,890 --> 01:58:56,730 that in the midst of the COVID crisis, you established COVID as an eighth priority area. 1138 01:58:57,130 --> 01:59:00,230 But as the manager has said, we're moving to an endemic. 1139 01:59:00,230 --> 01:59:03,810 so you've now, you know, for your direction in January, 1140 01:59:04,390 --> 01:59:08,470 move the separate COVID priority area as part 1141 01:59:08,470 --> 01:59:12,070 of number three, promoting public health and safety. 1142 01:59:12,670 --> 01:59:15,350 And those were really the two substantive changes, 1143 01:59:15,810 --> 01:59:19,270 three substantive changes to your priority area statements, 1144 01:59:19,750 --> 01:59:23,450 the ordering of them, moving to language consistency 1145 01:59:23,930 --> 01:59:27,890 and moving COVID under public health and safety. 1146 01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:34,770 What I'd like to do, Mr. Mayor, with your permission is walk through each of these seven 1147 01:59:34,770 --> 01:59:41,570 priority areas and pull up on the screen how I and your staff captured the direction from 1148 01:59:41,570 --> 01:59:46,570 the council's discussion at the workshop and if the council members have any changes 1149 01:59:47,210 --> 01:59:53,310 to either the language of the priority in the blue bar or to any of the goals underneath, 1150 01:59:53,810 --> 01:59:59,430 Change, if you could move forward, that would be great to any of the alpha items underneath. 1151 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,880 Then we'll just reflect that in your action tonight when the motion is made to adopt the priorities 1152 02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:14,760 and goals. So here's the first priority, promote housing, economic and workforce development with the 1153 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:22,900 five goals that we heard the council articulate as being the top priorities for the next two years 1154 02:00:22,900 --> 02:00:28,280 and trying to reflect that back to you the language the council used during the course 1155 02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:35,340 of their discussion. And this was the consensus direction of council. So, Mr. Mayor, I'll 1156 02:00:35,340 --> 02:00:38,040 turn it to you to see if there's any changes to this language. 1157 02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:49,760 Yes. I think, you know, as you present each one, council members, you can jump in or always 1158 02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:57,320 come back at the end after we go through them too. So, I don't hear anyone jumping 1159 02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:00,400 in right now so I think maybe we continue and then we can always come back. 1160 02:01:00,900 --> 02:01:06,420 Great. Let's move to number two, which is implement the comprehensive transportation 1161 02:01:06,420 --> 02:01:14,020 and mobility plan. The council had three goals under this. The council strongly wanted the 1162 02:01:14,020 --> 02:01:21,200 construction to begin on the university overpass by December 2022 of this year and then to 1163 02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:26,740 pursue funding strategies for public infrastructure, particularly related to streets, 1164 02:01:26,740 --> 02:01:32,220 but more broadly as well and to finally move ahead with the parking and enforcement program 1165 02:01:32,220 --> 02:01:36,880 with the appointment of an ongoing chief in the not too distant future. 1166 02:01:42,870 --> 02:01:44,610 Number three was to promote 1167 02:01:44,610 --> 02:01:50,410 public health and safety, continue the city's strong response to COVID. This is where that's 1168 02:01:50,410 --> 02:01:56,130 been moved for the council direction in January. Next was to resolve the sanitation 1169 02:01:56,130 --> 02:02:11,510 District and Corporation matter. However, the district and the city choose to resolve that and a continuing goal of enhancing flood protection for residents businesses and property owners as just discussed in your informational item. 1170 02:02:13,980 --> 02:02:16,180 The chair had a small question. 1171 02:02:19,100 --> 02:02:29,620 So, Greg, would that mean then since a, the COVID one has been sort of put in the back seat with the resolution of the Sanctuary district beyond the be the new a as it were then. 1172 02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:45,960 No, actually, a was inserted here. I mean, the council could clearly move the strong response to COVID lower if you wished, but COVID used to be one of the priority areas in the blue bar. 1173 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:50,460 and now we've moved it here in the public health and safety realm. 1174 02:02:50,740 --> 02:02:51,760 Gotcha. Thank you. 1175 02:02:52,020 --> 02:02:52,440 The goal. 1176 02:02:57,010 --> 02:03:04,310 Number four, the priority of financial health has been broadened to be financial 1177 02:03:04,310 --> 02:03:10,410 and organizational health. And council clearly wanted to focus on staff morale, retention, 1178 02:03:10,790 --> 02:03:16,910 recruitment and succession planning given the number of executive recruitments and transitions 1179 02:03:16,910 --> 02:03:24,710 that are underway. The council recognized from staff comment that the enterprise resource planning 1180 02:03:25,310 --> 02:03:31,350 system that's been in development is now moving into implementation and that will be heavily 1181 02:03:31,350 --> 02:03:37,630 work intensive throughout the city organization. And the council reflected that by elevating that 1182 02:03:37,630 --> 02:03:43,010 goal. And then you did want to keep a continuing focus on fiscal resiliency 1183 02:03:43,010 --> 02:03:49,550 in recognizing that 10-year financial forecast may be more realistic in these periods of uncertainty 1184 02:03:50,130 --> 02:03:53,570 than the prior 25-year financial forecast. 1185 02:03:58,010 --> 02:04:02,810 Number five, continuing priority of improving the city's water infrastructure. 1186 02:04:03,370 --> 02:04:09,730 A very specific council focus on prioritizing the university 12-inch water main. 1187 02:04:09,910 --> 02:04:12,250 I don't believe that's a 12-foot water main. 1188 02:04:12,410 --> 02:04:13,370 That was my typo. 1189 02:04:13,690 --> 02:04:14,810 I apologize for that. 1190 02:04:16,030 --> 02:04:22,370 finalize the viola lease negotiations, complete the design of the next key water infrastructure 1191 02:04:22,370 --> 02:04:28,450 projects, and then to update the water master and management plans. Most of those were 1192 02:04:28,450 --> 02:04:32,050 carried forward from your prior prioritization. 1193 02:04:35,740 --> 02:04:37,800 Develop and implement a facilities master 1194 02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:44,080 plan that's received considerable discussion at the council retreat and an elevation 1195 02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:50,160 exploration of the Tank Lidge site for a future or temporary police headquarters recognizing 1196 02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:56,840 the immediacy of the issues there to continue working and to more directly engage in discussions 1197 02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:02,800 with the county regarding both the university and Beach Street properties and then to support 1198 02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:06,660 the continued progress by the library district for a new library. 1199 02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:13,780 Lastly, enhance community services and parks. 1200 02:05:14,580 --> 02:05:17,800 Now that the master plan, the parks master plan is all 1201 02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:22,420 that formerly adopted to move to implementation with completion 1202 02:05:22,420 --> 02:05:26,620 of the design of the MLK Junior and Bell Street Park projects. 1203 02:05:27,460 --> 02:05:32,860 This is a relocation of an item that had previously been adopted by council. 1204 02:05:33,060 --> 02:05:38,620 That was up under the workforce and economic development, but it's directly engaged 1205 02:05:38,620 --> 02:05:45,860 with community partners to improve educational resources and outcomes and this includes looking 1206 02:05:45,860 --> 02:05:49,200 at facility consolidation and shared use. 1207 02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:55,880 And then one that's been an issue for two years is to pursue enhanced youth and multi-generational 1208 02:05:55,880 --> 02:06:00,860 engagement in perspectives in municipal decision making. 1209 02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:07,900 That concludes your staff and my perception of what the council directed at the January 1210 02:06:08,820 --> 02:06:12,240 And it's presented to you for your review and action. 1211 02:06:14,130 --> 02:06:15,450 Okay, well, thank you. 1212 02:06:15,710 --> 02:06:31,570 And let me ask again, council members, if anything stood out any questions, then I'll ask the comments from the public and then come back and I guess we are the, 1213 02:06:34,500 --> 02:06:35,280 hold on a second. 1214 02:06:36,340 --> 02:06:39,500 Yeah, so we are kind of formally adopting them now. 1215 02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:45,440 We had given direction and you kind of have strength formalized them more and brought them 1216 02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:46,120 back to us. 1217 02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:46,580 Yes. 1218 02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:46,960 Okay. 1219 02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:51,540 So, any other questions or comments, clarifications? 1220 02:06:53,860 --> 02:06:55,600 Yeah, Mr. Mayor, if I may. 1221 02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:56,200 Yes. 1222 02:06:57,260 --> 02:06:57,460 Go ahead. 1223 02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:03,460 I didn't, I was looking at one and three and there was a comment from the public 1224 02:07:03,460 --> 02:07:13,080 that I think some of us agreed with during this session that talked about the issues, 1225 02:07:13,380 --> 02:07:18,940 the ravages of COVID, particularly on tenants and housing tenants. 1226 02:07:19,300 --> 02:07:25,920 And I was trying to figure out, it looks like this continue the city's strong response, 1227 02:07:26,020 --> 02:07:29,980 which is 8-3A for COVID impacts and community needs. 1228 02:07:29,980 --> 02:07:36,840 And that concern that I think was voiced by a few of us, I assume, could fall under that. 1229 02:07:36,980 --> 02:07:44,600 I mean, given one, the lack of support at this point from the state for folks who are 1230 02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:49,000 potentially being evicted, as well as funding not being there, it seems to me that I'm 1231 02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:52,680 just trying to figure out whether that was something that would potentially be 1232 02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:54,500 housed under the Housing Economic Workforce. 1233 02:07:54,500 --> 02:08:00,060 but it sounds like that interest could fall under 3A, 1234 02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:05,500 correct? Because that is an impact 1235 02:08:05,940 --> 02:08:11,160 in a specific community that was brought up at that session. 1236 02:08:13,820 --> 02:08:20,340 Yeah, I would say so. I think for us, COVID is kind of one of those catchalls where, you know, 1237 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,680 we're going to have to be nimble and things are going to happen. If there's another outbreak 1238 02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:28,660 or another variant. We're going to have to be ready and nimble. So I would say from 1239 02:08:28,660 --> 02:08:33,360 SAS perspective, we think it would be all-encompassing in that item. But to your point, 1240 02:08:33,460 --> 02:08:34,500 it could be in other areas as well. 1241 02:08:36,460 --> 02:08:40,680 Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying it has to be called out. I just want to remind us that 1242 02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:50,180 it was an issue that surfaced. And certainly, you know, particularly the rental displacement 1243 02:08:50,180 --> 02:08:57,540 issue is something that's still with us given the changing winds of both funding, you know, 1244 02:08:57,540 --> 02:09:02,460 the loss of the ERAP program and even some of the eviction changes that have occurred at the state. 1245 02:09:02,780 --> 02:09:06,200 So, COVID impacts. Thanks. 1246 02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:09,220 Any other questions or comments? 1247 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:15,020 Here, and following up on Councilmember Romero's comments, 1248 02:09:15,020 --> 02:09:21,980 Do we understand what the extension of the eviction moratorium that the Lieutenant Governor 1249 02:09:21,980 --> 02:09:28,500 signed means, and how do we follow up, or what is our role in following up and making 1250 02:09:28,500 --> 02:09:30,380 sure that residents are receiving money? 1251 02:09:30,540 --> 02:09:34,060 I just don't even understand that there are some people who have put in applications 1252 02:09:34,060 --> 02:09:36,340 for that money, and they still haven't received it. 1253 02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:41,540 I know these are our priorities, but that is, that money is still essential and important 1254 02:09:41,540 --> 02:09:42,800 to our residents as well. 1255 02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:43,860 Yeah, 1256 02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:51,450 we definitely have the background. 1257 02:09:51,650 --> 02:09:54,390 We can provide an informational memorandum. 1258 02:09:54,530 --> 02:10:00,310 It's our understanding that the action that was taken really only helps those that submitted applications. 1259 02:10:01,250 --> 02:10:03,570 You know, and that's kind of the bummer part of this. 1260 02:10:03,670 --> 02:10:08,810 So if people do have an application in and it was pending, they will be served. 1261 02:10:09,670 --> 02:10:11,310 The application will be reviewed. 1262 02:10:11,310 --> 02:10:15,630 If anybody did not submit, as my understanding, they are not eligible, and they could essentially 1263 02:10:15,630 --> 02:10:19,550 be the eviction process could start effective April 1, as my understanding. 1264 02:10:23,620 --> 02:10:23,920 Thank you. 1265 02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:24,820 Okay. 1266 02:10:25,540 --> 02:10:28,400 Any other questions, comments? 1267 02:10:31,420 --> 02:10:36,180 If not, let me see if there are any members of the public who wish to speak on this, 1268 02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:39,420 and then I'll come back before we approve this. 1269 02:10:40,700 --> 02:10:41,660 Seeing none, Mayor. 1270 02:10:42,180 --> 02:10:42,640 Okay. 1271 02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:47,880 Mr. Mayor, let's make a quick comment about the report that we just went over. 1272 02:10:49,900 --> 02:10:50,680 Greg and 1273 02:10:50,680 --> 02:11:00,200 I think the City Manager and the City Manager, I commend you for refining these reports every 1274 02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:05,440 year so that really this was probably the clearest report that I've seen of the progression 1275 02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:13,880 of our previous priorities than some sort of synthesis during that meeting that you captured 1276 02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:17,860 and ultimately turned into the priorities for this year. 1277 02:11:17,980 --> 02:11:25,660 I think this is a very readable document and clearly shows how we got to these new priorities. 1278 02:11:25,980 --> 02:11:34,120 So, I commend you, Greg, for this new format and staff for helping think through what they heard 1279 02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:38,420 and how you actually put this down. I think this is a great guiding document for this next year. 1280 02:11:40,610 --> 02:11:48,570 Okay. Any other questions or comments? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve this. 1281 02:11:49,150 --> 02:11:55,750 Well, I would like to make a motion that we adopt a resolution approving the 2022-2023 city 1282 02:11:55,750 --> 02:12:01,590 council priorities. I can't. Okay. We move and second it if we can have roll call. 1283 02:12:01,590 --> 02:12:02,650 Mayor 1284 02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:14,580 Abrica? Yes. Councilmember Wallace-Jones? Yes. Councilmember Lopez? Yes. Councilmember 1285 02:12:14,580 --> 02:12:24,700 Romero? Yes. And vice mayor Goshe? Yes. Motion carries. Okay, our next item is potential ballot 1286 02:12:24,700 --> 02:12:32,240 measure for affordable housing revenue. And I do want to preface by saying I think there was a 1287 02:12:32,900 --> 02:12:41,960 definitely an honest technology mistake in not providing us the latest information, 1288 02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:49,220 but it was a report that was previously presented. And so, but I thought it was important to just leave it 1289 02:12:49,220 --> 02:12:56,220 on and hear from the staff, since we're not making a decision tonight, to say at least to continue the discussion 1290 02:12:56,220 --> 02:13:03,360 information and then see where we want to go. So, I think, you know, maybe you could explain that a 1291 02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:10,080 little more, Patrick, you know, in terms of what was being presented tonight. 1292 02:13:11,260 --> 02:13:15,380 Yeah, and we had a pre-meeting on this, so Amy, I'm going to turn it over to you. Thank you. 1293 02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:23,480 Sir, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Like you said, there was a mistake that was made where we 1294 02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:31,880 reposted the March 15th report and so I'm sorry for that mistake we did send the 1295 02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:36,980 revised or the corrected report to the city council prior to the start of the 1296 02:13:36,980 --> 02:13:41,900 meeting and the presentation that you'll see before you is basically 1297 02:13:41,900 --> 02:13:47,840 continuation of what council asked us to return to today in order to make the 1298 02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:52,320 timeline for the ballot measure posting we thought it would be prudent to 1299 02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:58,580 still give today's presentation and discuss what staff have been researching in terms of 1300 02:13:58,580 --> 02:14:06,560 potential ballot measure language. And then that way, we could return for full guidance from the 1301 02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:13,000 City Council on May 3rd, still then meeting our timeline necessary to post toward the ballot 1302 02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:20,460 measure. And Amy, I just want to accept that I also did ask James to upload it to, 1303 02:14:20,460 --> 02:14:29,020 you know, the packet, the public packet on the website. So the public also does have access to this information. 1304 02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:41,520 Great. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for helping with that correction. So with that, I will pass the microphone to Karen Camacho and Rachel Horst to proceed with the presentations. Thanks again. 1305 02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:58,320 Thank you so much, Amy. Good evening, City Council. My name is Karen Camacho. I'm the housing project manager. And tonight, like Amy mentioned, we're continuing the conversation on a potential ballot measure for affordable housing revenue. 1306 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,620 Here's the agenda for tonight's discussion. I'll provide background and recap of the March 15th 1307 02:15:07,620 --> 02:15:14,700 discussion where council first discuss this, make staff recommendations, and then talk about next steps. 1308 02:15:16,900 --> 02:15:24,080 So on March 15th, city council reviewed the 2022 David Rosen and Associates report on potential 1309 02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:44,640 resources to support affordable housing activities. And the three potential revenue sources that were included in the report were, one, a new parcel tax, two, a modified transient occupancy tax, which I'll refer to as a modified TOT, and three, a modified grocery 1310 02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:53,180 gross receipts tax or modified GRT. And council discussed modified gross receipts tax as being 1311 02:15:53,180 --> 02:15:55,180 the best option to move forward with. 1312 02:15:57,210 --> 02:16:00,390 The purpose of tonight is to seek further council 1313 02:16:00,390 --> 02:16:06,610 direction on this potential revenue source, to seek council direction to draft the resolutions 1314 02:16:06,610 --> 02:16:12,110 and ballot measure, and return to city council before the end of May for consideration. 1315 02:16:12,110 --> 02:16:16,370 And that's when City Council vote would be required. 1316 02:16:16,890 --> 02:16:23,890 And to outline the requisites City Council actions to place the tax on the November 22 election. 1317 02:16:26,190 --> 02:16:31,950 Here's a brief recap of what was discussed at the March 15th meeting. 1318 02:16:34,030 --> 02:16:39,970 Council, in particular, wanted to move forward with the modified grocery seeds tax. 1319 02:16:39,970 --> 02:16:51,670 And tonight, I do want to note that staff is presenting a modified gross receipts tax that would increase the gross receipts tax to 2.5%. 1320 02:16:51,670 --> 02:17:00,930 I removed the tenure delay. And the slight difference from the March 15 meeting is applied to all rental properties. 1321 02:17:00,930 --> 02:17:05,390 So include one to four unit rental properties. 1322 02:17:06,110 --> 02:17:20,630 And further legal analysis by the interim city attorney and outside council found that applying a modified GRT only to parcels owned by non-East volatile residents may not be legally tenable. 1323 02:17:21,050 --> 02:17:25,870 So that's why we changed the modification to all rental properties. 1324 02:17:25,870 --> 02:17:27,070 And 1325 02:17:29,660 --> 02:17:37,100 based on the discussion from City Council on March 15th, staff is not recommending to move forward with the parcel tax option. 1326 02:17:38,580 --> 02:17:45,260 And based on the March 15th discussion, staff is not recommending to look further into the modified to option. 1327 02:17:46,260 --> 02:17:56,000 I do want to add new information. And if you look at the middle center of this chart, you'll see that the actual total revenue in to T. 1328 02:17:56,000 --> 02:18:08,060 tax for fiscal year 2021 to 2022 was 750,000, a little bit more than what was first budgeted by finance. 1329 02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:16,080 And if we were to calculate the potential revenue in TOT based on this estimate, it would be 125,000. 1330 02:18:16,880 --> 02:18:24,140 So not much of a difference from the conservative estimate that we had presented at the previous meeting. 1331 02:18:24,140 --> 02:18:30,420 And finance's mid-year analysis finds that the current trends indicate a positive adjustment 1332 02:18:30,420 --> 02:18:38,300 of $200,000 with high uncertainty due to the COVID-19 pandemic, not knowing if the hotel 1333 02:18:38,300 --> 02:18:38,860 will recover. 1334 02:18:39,740 --> 02:18:45,920 And the TOT collection remains suppressed at approximately 69% below pre-COVID levels. 1335 02:18:46,540 --> 02:18:53,600 And if we were to try to estimate potential revenue, assuming COVID-19 pandemic recovery, 1336 02:18:53,600 --> 02:19:02,080 we could potentially see $479,000 in revenue specifically to housing. 1337 02:19:03,700 --> 02:19:09,840 And finally, the modified gross receipts tax is what staff is recommending tonight based 1338 02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:12,740 on the March 15th discussion by city council. 1339 02:19:13,380 --> 02:19:18,600 And the specific modified gross receipts tax that we're presenting tonight is one, 1340 02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:22,440 again, increasing the tax by 1%. 1341 02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:34,820 So to 2.5% to applying to all rental properties, including those that are one to four unit rental properties and three eliminate the tenure delay. 1342 02:19:35,180 --> 02:19:42,200 And tonight council may provide additional direction or modifications regarding those specifics outlined above. 1343 02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:55,640 And in terms of the potential annual revenue increase, of course it would be more than the 1.15 million that was previously projected based on the additional applicability. 1344 02:19:59,660 --> 02:20:05,860 Another point of discussion for tonight is to look further into the potential uses of the measure. 1345 02:20:05,860 --> 02:20:15,100 On March 15th, Council indicated wanting to move forward with a general tax, which would only require a 50% plus one vote. 1346 02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:26,260 And to provide advisory language that would allow potential uses for affordable housing, different types of affordable housing activities. 1347 02:20:26,260 --> 02:20:39,220 And tonight, staff recommends using the Measure O language, which is, quote, funding programs to increase affordable housing and protect local residents from displacement and from homelessness. 1348 02:20:40,140 --> 02:20:54,820 And council may choose additional advisory language, such as tenant housing rent support, for example, or housing production or affordable housing preservation that is more advisory language and not too specific. 1349 02:20:54,820 --> 02:21:00,720 And this language will be on both the ballot measure question and the municipal code. 1350 02:21:05,250 --> 02:21:15,430 The third final point is that staff is recommending that City Council identify two members to help with the ballot argument drafting. 1351 02:21:16,170 --> 02:21:25,570 And this argument in favor can be signed by up to five individuals of the members of the community, including one or two members of City Council. 1352 02:21:27,230 --> 02:21:34,290 And here's a recap of what I just covered in terms of what direction we're seeking from City Council. 1353 02:21:34,870 --> 02:21:43,890 One is to confirm direction not to pursue a parcel tax, to confirm direction on not to pursue a modified TOT, 1354 02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:51,070 to confirm pursuing a modified gross receipts tax that increases the gross receipts to 2.5%, 1355 02:21:51,070 --> 02:21:55,110 applies to all rental properties and eliminates the 10-year delay. 1356 02:21:56,230 --> 02:22:00,470 We also are seeking input on the ballot measure uses language. 1357 02:22:00,890 --> 02:22:04,210 We're asking Council to select two subcommittee members. 1358 02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:11,830 And finally, we're asking Council to direct staff to return in May with the proposed ballot measure and resolutions. 1359 02:22:12,650 --> 02:22:18,350 And if we're directed, staff may return on May 3rd, 1360 02:22:18,350 --> 02:22:27,170 where council would vote to put the measure on the ballot and this would require a three-fifths vote 1361 02:22:28,050 --> 02:22:35,130 and to adopt a resolution calling the election in November 2022, a resolution consolidating 1362 02:22:35,130 --> 02:22:40,910 the municipal election with a statewide election and a resolution submitting the ballot measure 1363 02:22:40,910 --> 02:22:47,550 to the electorate. That concludes the presentation and we can now take your questions. 1364 02:22:50,850 --> 02:22:58,770 Okay, open up for council members for any questions or clarifications, comments on the 1365 02:22:58,770 --> 02:23:06,290 report. And thank you for the report. Anybody want to get started? Any part? 1366 02:23:07,890 --> 02:23:16,990 I mean, I'll start. I think you've captured, I think, the intent of what council wanted. 1367 02:23:16,990 --> 02:23:26,210 I mean, going all the way back, actually, to, I guess, it was three priority-setting documents 1368 02:23:26,990 --> 02:23:34,310 ago. We've obviously kept this priority in our documents throughout the last three years. 1369 02:23:34,970 --> 02:23:40,150 At the same time, I think we've also reaffirmed it in this year's priority very clearly, 1370 02:23:41,670 --> 02:23:49,870 funding source. And in addition, I think our housing element as well as our housing action 1371 02:23:49,870 --> 02:23:56,430 plan I think also kind of point to the need to come up with something like this. So I 1372 02:23:56,430 --> 02:24:06,330 think you've, we've hit on kind of the most appropriate form to do this. And I would 1373 02:24:06,330 --> 02:24:13,370 I would agree also with your recommendation that we keep the measure O language of funding 1374 02:24:13,370 --> 02:24:17,270 programs to increase affordable housing, protect local residents from displacement and homelessness. 1375 02:24:18,090 --> 02:24:27,150 I think it's broad enough yet narrows it to the issues around housing that I think are 1376 02:24:27,150 --> 02:24:33,490 front and center in this community as well as are connected directly to where the taxes 1377 02:24:33,490 --> 02:24:37,770 are actually coming from, which is a housing activity. 1378 02:24:39,070 --> 02:24:44,250 So I would certainly support what is before us 1379 02:24:44,250 --> 02:24:50,510 and would look forward to seeing some more final document 1380 02:24:50,510 --> 02:24:54,230 come before us at the next meeting. 1381 02:24:56,310 --> 02:24:59,750 Okay, anybody else any questions or comments? 1382 02:25:00,850 --> 02:25:03,130 Then I'll go to the public and come back 1383 02:25:03,130 --> 02:25:10,060 if there's any additional council questions, comments. Anybody else have a 1384 02:25:12,460 --> 02:25:13,920 comment at this 1385 02:25:13,920 --> 02:25:14,940 time or questions? 1386 02:25:17,340 --> 02:25:23,340 Let me check then for the public. Go ahead. 1387 02:25:23,940 --> 02:25:30,460 This is a small question, Mayor. This is a small question. I know Karen, you mentioned 1388 02:25:30,460 --> 02:25:36,980 that. Thank you for the report, by the way, that excluding it to just non-EPA residents 1389 02:25:36,980 --> 02:25:45,160 for the modified growth sheets taxes like legally tenuous, I was hoping maybe Valor is somebody on the line and could just kind of brief us on as to why that's the case. 1390 02:25:45,980 --> 02:25:46,620 Sure. 1391 02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:56,260 The main problem are the principles of equal protection and interstate commerce. 1392 02:25:57,740 --> 02:26:07,140 So, there are cases that hold that you really can't treat people in these types of situations 1393 02:26:07,140 --> 02:26:07,740 differently. 1394 02:26:08,480 --> 02:26:20,440 So, that's why we're suggesting that there not be an attempt to separate the East Palo Alto 1395 02:26:20,440 --> 02:26:22,740 owners from the non-East Palo Alto owners. 1396 02:26:24,100 --> 02:26:26,160 Thank you, Sheriff. 1397 02:26:26,700 --> 02:26:26,900 Okay. 1398 02:26:27,900 --> 02:26:30,400 Yeah, any other questions or comments? 1399 02:26:33,500 --> 02:26:36,260 I do have one comment. 1400 02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:47,580 Given that this is a, I believe, a modification of the gross receipts tax that was passed several years ago. 1401 02:26:47,580 --> 02:26:56,040 So, I am assuming that with the exception of these elements that we are inserting or changing, 1402 02:26:57,020 --> 02:27:04,440 all of the other provisions of measure O in that ordinance would essentially be in place 1403 02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:08,340 should we move forward with this ordinance. 1404 02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:11,820 I think that that sounds like a theme tent. 1405 02:27:12,500 --> 02:27:14,940 You are correct, Council Member Romero. 1406 02:27:14,940 --> 02:27:19,580 There would not be changes to the other provisions of the ordinance, obviously. 1407 02:27:20,220 --> 02:27:34,080 We have to look very carefully at how we put the language in to make the changes that the council would like to go forward with, but it's not the attention to change any other of the aspects of it. 1408 02:27:34,080 --> 02:27:40,300 So, you know, we'll look at all of that very carefully, and we can provide something that 1409 02:27:40,300 --> 02:27:46,180 shows what has actually been changed versus what is the current language, if that would 1410 02:27:46,180 --> 02:27:46,600 be helpful. 1411 02:27:47,460 --> 02:27:47,940 Thank you. 1412 02:27:52,500 --> 02:27:58,080 Yeah, you know, on that point, I think it would be good to review everything. 1413 02:27:58,400 --> 02:28:04,840 I'm just thinking of some maybe 20 years ago with a rent law where, when it went 1414 02:28:04,840 --> 02:28:13,500 And then back to the voters with some amendments, it offered an opportunity to clarify some 1415 02:28:13,500 --> 02:28:19,620 ambiguities that there were, to potentially clean something up. 1416 02:28:20,240 --> 02:28:26,340 And it seems like it's working fine, but I think it would be worth to just review that 1417 02:28:26,340 --> 02:28:30,200 if there's anything that might need to be included other than this. 1418 02:28:30,660 --> 02:28:30,900 Sure. 1419 02:28:31,460 --> 02:28:32,660 We'll certainly look at that. 1420 02:28:32,900 --> 02:28:33,120 Yeah. 1421 02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:37,200 Yeah, you know, so I do remember that process to okay, but. 1422 02:28:38,920 --> 02:28:48,560 So, let me see if anybody from the public is asking to speak on this and we'll come back and bring some closer to this. James anybody from the public. 1423 02:28:50,930 --> 02:28:52,770 Yes, there are. 1424 02:28:53,130 --> 02:28:54,970 There's a one speaker Gail Wilkerson. 1425 02:28:54,970 --> 02:28:55,990 Okay. 1426 02:28:59,290 --> 02:29:00,270 I asked me again. 1427 02:29:01,910 --> 02:29:13,510 I was reading today Palo Alto online. They seem to be toggling back and forth with the same thing is that despite business objects and Palo Alto advances new tax. 1428 02:29:14,750 --> 02:29:25,430 They are saying that they're going to raise taxes on the big businesses, not the small businesses. They don't want to put them in any more trouble because of the pandemic. 1429 02:29:25,430 --> 02:29:38,350 They're coming out of pancake, but they figure and some other people say, since they're making money off the city and bringing all this traffic into our city that they should be the ones taxed. 1430 02:29:38,850 --> 02:29:50,370 And I didn't too much listen to, you know, the five things that Karen Camacho was saying, regarding because it didn't make any sense to me to tax small people. 1431 02:29:50,370 --> 02:29:58,510 So, when we are on a gold mine and the developers and construction workers, they have real estate agents. 1432 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,420 That should be paying more taxes in our city in East Palo Alto, and not anybody else. Now, 1433 02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:17,200 there's landlords who need to be taxed, but according to their income, because they will raise 1434 02:30:18,140 --> 02:30:25,940 their rent, they're not under rent control board. So, if they're subject to raising their rent, 1435 02:30:25,940 --> 02:30:32,940 say over $2,000, they should pay taxes on that because we're a gold mine. We have liquid gold 1436 02:30:32,940 --> 02:30:40,580 in that land and we should be aware of that and probably stop, you know, hate to say this. 1437 02:30:40,940 --> 02:30:44,900 But they think we're stuck on stupid. They come in here and they tell us anything 1438 02:30:44,900 --> 02:30:52,520 and they think we're going to accept it. So that's my feeling about it. Tax the big businesses 1439 02:30:53,180 --> 02:30:54,980 totally. Thank you. 1440 02:30:58,040 --> 02:30:59,760 Thank you. And that was our only speaker. 1441 02:31:02,520 --> 02:31:06,680 So I had another question or just clarification. 1442 02:31:07,900 --> 02:31:22,320 I think between the city attorney and staff on the, what the role of the subcommittee is, and if that's something that we have to decide tonight or can that wait till the next meeting or 1443 02:31:23,180 --> 02:31:26,280 That that does not have to be decided tonight. 1444 02:31:27,640 --> 02:31:32,260 It's just an option actually it's not something that the council even has to do. 1445 02:31:33,960 --> 02:31:46,280 And just generally in the past I know we've, we've had it several times that I remember but so the role of this committee just to help draft something that the city attorney ultimately. 1446 02:31:49,100 --> 02:31:54,440 Well, as I remember, the attorney writes a neutral one, and then the subcommittee writes 1447 02:31:54,440 --> 02:31:55,300 one for the council. 1448 02:31:55,820 --> 02:32:02,140 So the, yes, so there's, the city attorney writes an impartial analysis, which is neutral 1449 02:32:02,140 --> 02:32:08,480 and just applies to explain what the item is for all members of the public who will 1450 02:32:08,480 --> 02:32:09,240 be voting on it. 1451 02:32:12,080 --> 02:32:19,080 You're allowed to have an argument for the measure and an argument against the measure. 1452 02:32:19,580 --> 02:32:28,700 And the council does not have to write an argument for the measure, but it's common when it's a measure that's put on by the council. 1453 02:32:28,700 --> 02:32:29,180 Right. 1454 02:32:29,480 --> 02:32:38,060 You have a subcommittee of council members be the ones who sign an argument that reflects 1455 02:32:38,060 --> 02:32:39,480 the council's intention. 1456 02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:46,520 You're allowed to have a maximum of five people sign the argument and typically you want 1457 02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:52,180 to draw from different elements of the community to show more widespread support. 1458 02:32:52,860 --> 02:32:53,080 Right. 1459 02:32:53,620 --> 02:32:53,920 Okay. 1460 02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:59,900 Okay. And so that's something that, like I said, I think we could appoint that committee 1461 02:32:59,900 --> 02:33:04,960 next meeting if, or you can check with us if we want to do that. 1462 02:33:05,320 --> 02:33:05,760 Correct. 1463 02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:07,340 Yeah, okay. 1464 02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:18,020 Yeah, any other questions or comments on any part? And then I think we're just 1465 02:33:18,020 --> 02:33:28,000 given direction to actually come back with a draft language that would go to the voters? 1466 02:33:28,560 --> 02:33:32,720 So, what would be the next step? Again, maybe if that was my other question, just procedurally. 1467 02:33:33,260 --> 02:33:35,760 We give direction tonight to come back with. 1468 02:33:37,360 --> 02:33:45,140 So, we will come back with the actual language that would be changed in the code, 1469 02:33:45,140 --> 02:33:57,760 because that needs to be available for voters to review, and we will come back with the question that would be placed on the ballot, which has various limitations imposed by law. 1470 02:33:58,720 --> 02:33:59,480 Right. Okay. 1471 02:34:00,280 --> 02:34:02,560 And then in terms of time limit and just reviewing. 1472 02:34:03,980 --> 02:34:13,120 We definitely do have plenty of time, right in terms of when it has to be submitted to the county clerk if that's the direction to council. 1473 02:34:16,320 --> 02:34:19,260 I mean, there's a reasonable amount of time left to do that. 1474 02:34:20,060 --> 02:34:20,580 Yes. 1475 02:34:20,900 --> 02:34:29,620 And as you may recall from the March 15th meeting, we – all of the measure resolution, the argument 1476 02:34:29,620 --> 02:34:33,400 partial analysis must be submitted by August the latest. 1477 02:34:33,660 --> 02:34:39,060 And I know that Council Member Gautier expressed interest in doing it before August because 1478 02:34:39,060 --> 02:34:41,500 that's when Council has recessed. 1479 02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:43,160 Yeah, right. 1480 02:34:43,160 --> 02:34:56,220 So, yeah, we definitely don't want to do it during recess, but if we absolutely had to, we could have a special meeting, but just as a safety measure, but yeah. Okay, so we're okay on time, it seems that following this. 1481 02:34:57,640 --> 02:34:59,600 Yeah, any other questions or comments? 1482 02:34:59,600 --> 02:35:09,940 I have just one small question. Give me if it's just a misread. So is this potential ballot going to be for a 50% plus or is it two-thirds majority? 1483 02:35:12,380 --> 02:35:22,060 It seems based on the March 15th meeting, Council directed staff to move forward with the general text, which only requires a 50% plus one vote. 1484 02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:27,640 Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Thank you. I just wanted to clarification because I saw a note on the report itself that mentioned the. 1485 02:35:27,640 --> 02:35:40,780 Yeah, thank you. Yeah, so that's probably something we would just want to confirm. I think council is interested in that the 50% plus one. So yeah, I think that's okay. 1486 02:35:43,620 --> 02:35:50,560 Well, if there—don't hear any other comments or questions, it seems that then—well, 1487 02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:57,860 as our city attorney mentioned, subsequent meeting will have the actual language and 1488 02:35:57,860 --> 02:36:07,200 that's when we really then will have to make the decision and it will require a three-fifths 1489 02:36:07,200 --> 02:36:07,640 vote. 1490 02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:08,280 Is that correct? 1491 02:36:09,260 --> 02:36:09,780 Yes. 1492 02:36:09,780 --> 02:36:10,620 That is correct. 1493 02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:13,920 So, four council members would have to approve. 1494 02:36:15,140 --> 02:36:15,460 Okay. 1495 02:36:17,080 --> 02:36:17,520 Okay. 1496 02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:23,280 So, I believe then we don't need to vote. 1497 02:36:23,460 --> 02:36:28,220 We just, I think council is okay with bringing this back, bringing the language back for further, 1498 02:36:28,900 --> 02:36:31,200 I mean, for a vote standpoint. 1499 02:36:31,880 --> 02:36:32,280 Mr. Mayor. 1500 02:36:32,820 --> 02:36:33,020 Yeah. 1501 02:36:33,300 --> 02:36:36,720 I'm sorry, you're probably going to go to the public, but I don't know if there is anybody in the public. 1502 02:36:37,040 --> 02:36:38,040 No, I did. 1503 02:36:38,040 --> 02:36:39,280 I think I did ask for that. 1504 02:36:39,480 --> 02:36:39,680 Oh, you did? 1505 02:36:39,900 --> 02:36:41,380 Oh, for some reason, I thought I saw a handle. 1506 02:36:41,580 --> 02:36:42,000 Oh, forgive me. 1507 02:36:42,040 --> 02:36:45,560 No, we did have somebody actually speak and then. 1508 02:36:45,820 --> 02:36:46,800 Okay, you're right. 1509 02:36:46,900 --> 02:36:47,220 I'm sorry. 1510 02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:47,780 Forgive me. 1511 02:36:48,940 --> 02:36:53,100 I think at this point then we would, I think we've given direction. 1512 02:36:53,440 --> 02:36:56,500 My opinion, I think we're fine with continuing with this. 1513 02:36:56,940 --> 02:36:57,260 Okay. 1514 02:36:57,880 --> 02:36:58,280 All right. 1515 02:36:58,840 --> 02:36:59,360 Thank you. 1516 02:36:59,980 --> 02:37:00,500 Thank you. 1517 02:37:02,040 --> 02:37:02,840 Next items. 1518 02:37:03,140 --> 02:37:05,520 We actually have a couple items related to the. 1519 02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:14,500 efforts by the city, you know, to address the unhoused population in the city, as well 1520 02:37:14,500 --> 02:37:21,640 as, you know, reopening Bell Street, basically. So I just want to preface this by saying I 1521 02:37:21,640 --> 02:37:28,960 think the vice mayor and I did have a chance to hold a meeting with our supervisor, Warren, 1522 02:37:28,960 --> 02:37:44,300 and also someone from the staff level to definitely coordinate our efforts and make sure that either 1523 02:37:44,300 --> 02:37:50,420 through the county or some alternative form that everyone at Bell Street Park would be 1524 02:37:50,420 --> 02:37:57,240 offered housing and hopefully then house everyone. But we also wanted to set a date by which 1525 02:37:57,240 --> 02:38:01,160 we really would have accomplished that. I think the council was very firm on that 1526 02:38:01,750 --> 02:38:08,020 to do both in a way that worked well for our community. I think the next two items are going 1527 02:38:08,020 --> 02:38:15,520 to help us with that process. I want to thank our staff for connecting well with the county 1528 02:38:15,520 --> 02:38:23,660 and pursuing this. The first item is the strategy for providing housing for the unhoused, 1529 02:38:23,660 --> 02:38:43,090 currently residing at Bell Street Park. And so I think I may ask for a brief introduction here. That 1530 02:38:43,090 --> 02:38:50,850 might overlap a little bit on the two items. And then Rachel will get into her item. But as the 1531 02:38:50,850 --> 02:38:56,110 council is aware we've been having a discussion around the city's unhoused population since 1532 02:38:56,110 --> 02:39:03,550 last June essentially and what really caused the discussion was the the influx of folks residing at 1533 02:39:03,550 --> 02:39:09,090 Bell Street Park but also you know the increase in the number of folks also residing in RVs 1534 02:39:09,090 --> 02:39:14,490 and some other smaller encampments throughout the city. So the council today has taken a number 1535 02:39:14,490 --> 02:39:20,050 of actions specifically around Bell Street Park staff has also been doing more outreach to 1536 02:39:20,050 --> 02:39:25,090 members of the living in the RVs and has actually started doing several cleanups. 1537 02:39:25,270 --> 02:39:26,190 I don't want to say sweeps. 1538 02:39:26,250 --> 02:39:31,830 We're not forcing people out yet, but I really want to thank Public Works staff for cleaning 1539 02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:37,510 up the very problematic RV at the end of Beach Street a few times, and the Public 1540 02:39:37,510 --> 02:39:42,290 Works staff recently did another cleanup at the creek near the Woodland Park Apartments 1541 02:39:42,290 --> 02:39:42,690 as well. 1542 02:39:43,790 --> 02:39:49,690 So where there's areas where we have a, you know, an impact to health and safety or to 1543 02:39:49,690 --> 02:39:51,990 the environment, we have to step in pretty quickly. 1544 02:39:52,150 --> 02:39:57,610 So we've been kind of leveling up these, these, to interventions over time. 1545 02:39:58,150 --> 02:40:01,890 As the mayor noted, the vice mayor and the mayor have been very involved in this. 1546 02:40:01,970 --> 02:40:03,710 I really thank you both for your time. 1547 02:40:03,770 --> 02:40:06,690 It really helps those meetings and the county as well has been great. 1548 02:40:07,090 --> 02:40:10,370 It's taken some while to get some traction, not with the county, but with everybody 1549 02:40:10,370 --> 02:40:14,690 everybody needing county assistance. It's really taken us to kind of think through this 1550 02:40:14,690 --> 02:40:19,010 and get to the point of what we're going to propose tonight. Again, and the county is 1551 02:40:19,010 --> 02:40:23,090 really the big backer of this, because they are the ones with the assistance and the subsidies. 1552 02:40:23,090 --> 02:40:28,310 So we really appreciate their effort. So with that, I'm going to move forward to 1553 02:40:28,310 --> 02:40:33,250 James. If you don't mind going to the next slide. This is a very short presentation. 1554 02:40:33,670 --> 02:40:37,970 So with regard to Bellshere, I talk about the successes. Obviously, I fully understand 1555 02:40:37,970 --> 02:40:40,130 But there's been a lot of successes. 1556 02:40:40,910 --> 02:40:47,270 And I put in the staff report that because the city did not sweep sweep the encampment right away. This is what's been achieved. 1557 02:40:47,690 --> 02:41:04,090 Every individual at the park is now registered with the county's coordinated entry system. So for those who don't know the single point of entry is really becoming the the the most common approach the customary approach to serving homeless folks where single point of entry get in the system the county assesses them. 1558 02:41:04,090 --> 02:41:08,450 And if you don't build a relationship with the homeless residents or the unhoused, 1559 02:41:08,590 --> 02:41:10,530 it's really difficult to get people in the system. 1560 02:41:10,850 --> 02:41:14,690 So back in June when they started, it took several visits to the park 1561 02:41:14,690 --> 02:41:18,890 to get people comfortable and, you know, the partners of the outreach. 1562 02:41:19,110 --> 02:41:22,450 But at the end of the day, everybody there is now in the system, which is great. 1563 02:41:22,930 --> 02:41:25,830 And because of those efforts, eight individuals have achieved housing. 1564 02:41:26,090 --> 02:41:29,430 So again, it's, you know, I know there's still an encampment out there, 1565 02:41:29,450 --> 02:41:32,850 but that is actually very successful from an encampment point of view. 1566 02:41:33,330 --> 02:41:41,690 So again, I just wanted to let folks know the community has had a lot of empathy, you know, people are out there, you know, there's been events out there to help help people out there. 1567 02:41:41,990 --> 02:41:54,630 But we have also realized that we definitely as summer's coming we need to get the park, you know, open so as the mayor noted we've been working with the county and we've been waiting for one pivotal point and the one pivotal point is asking the county a really specific 1568 02:41:54,630 --> 02:42:00,410 have a question. If we were to move forward with clearing Bell Street Park, can we offer 1569 02:42:00,410 --> 02:42:03,970 housing to every individual there? And they finally said, yes, we think we can cobble 1570 02:42:03,970 --> 02:42:09,790 together the sources. So, James, next slide, please. As we head into this approach, really 1571 02:42:09,790 --> 02:42:13,730 what we're talking about is helping the residents, the unhoused at Bell Street Park. 1572 02:42:14,130 --> 02:42:19,790 And really what the plan is, if the council approves this tonight, we have a meeting 1573 02:42:19,790 --> 02:42:23,170 already scheduled tomorrow at the county where we will go into implementation mode. 1574 02:42:23,170 --> 02:42:34,350 And what implementation mode is between April 6th and May 23rd, the goals to try to house every single homeless individual living at Bell Street Park with assistance from the county. 1575 02:42:35,250 --> 02:42:41,430 Now, the county says, hey, that's great. We can provide the the subsidies or we can help find people beds here here or there. 1576 02:42:41,810 --> 02:42:45,330 But the city really needs to be the lead organization. So yes, we are committing to that. 1577 02:42:45,950 --> 02:42:54,870 There are several partners, not just the county that would be involved in this, but the county has several outreach, I would say contracted outreach entities that would be a part of this. 1578 02:42:55,150 --> 02:43:09,570 But just folks know from a local perspective this project we hope will be at the table really assisting. So Pastor Bain and his team will be there as well and try to help whether it's get people into their shelter or try to get people into another living situation. 1579 02:43:10,070 --> 02:43:17,490 Again, the key date is May 23rd. Ideally, every person would be housed and moved by May 23rd. 1580 02:43:17,970 --> 02:43:27,210 But if that is not the case, the city would be there on that day to really clean up the last bit of, you know, if there's debris or whatnot at that point. 1581 02:43:28,130 --> 02:43:37,270 The city, we would be on the hook to store any personal property, so if any of the unhoused at Bell Street Park say, yes, I'm ready to go, but I have all this personal property, we will have to store that property. 1582 02:43:37,270 --> 02:43:44,930 So, we're going to have to figure it out that might be at the court yard, we'll have to figure out somewhere with only, you know, 18 to 20 folks there we think we can definitely do that. 1583 02:43:45,110 --> 02:43:54,950 We're really encouraging people to make that decision is that real property or is that when I say real is that personal property or is that you know stuff that could be discarded. 1584 02:43:55,770 --> 02:44:02,950 When folks are moving into housing the less items they have it is easier to get people house so we will be on the hook for that. 1585 02:44:03,510 --> 02:44:16,070 And like I said, we'll be meeting with a multi, not just multi-jurisdictional, but multi various entities tomorrow to really, you know, lay out the specific plan about the removal. 1586 02:44:16,950 --> 02:44:27,530 Do you need law enforcement on the day, you know, what type of outreach, what type of marketing, but the goal really is that by the end of this week, if the council approves this strategy, we will begin the outreach process. 1587 02:44:27,530 --> 02:44:35,450 We will actually put notices at the park that effective May 23rd, the intent is to kind of, you know, is to clean the park. 1588 02:44:35,670 --> 02:44:38,210 So, like I said, there's going to be a lot more details. 1589 02:44:38,430 --> 02:44:40,930 We can definitely come back before May 23rd. 1590 02:44:40,990 --> 02:44:43,250 We can issue an information report if folks want more details. 1591 02:44:44,510 --> 02:44:45,850 But let me see, James, next slide. 1592 02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:47,010 I think that's it. 1593 02:44:47,130 --> 02:44:52,130 So anyway, in the nutshell, between the 6th and May 23rd, we want to house every individual. 1594 02:44:52,290 --> 02:44:57,010 The county is ready with subsidies, and we're ready to rock and roll to make that happen. 1595 02:44:57,010 --> 02:44:59,150 So with that, I'll turn it back to the mayor. 1596 02:44:59,470 --> 02:44:59,650 Thank you. 1597 02:45:02,060 --> 02:45:10,420 Okay, so any questions or comments on this first item of kind of specific plan for this. 1598 02:45:12,140 --> 02:45:14,640 Sure. I have a couple of questions. Yes. Go ahead. 1599 02:45:15,080 --> 02:45:26,120 Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Patrick, for the report. It's great to see that we're making headway into offering these folks a place to stay. That's really an opening up the park for the community in summer. 1600 02:45:26,120 --> 02:45:31,580 a great timing. I just wanted to ask in terms of I know you said the county sort of finally allowed 1601 02:45:31,580 --> 02:45:37,940 or is open to having working it out was what was the issue before just a capacity it's just 1602 02:45:37,940 --> 02:45:42,580 they weren't able to find venues and places for these folks or was it COVID related like they 1603 02:45:42,580 --> 02:45:47,760 were still trying to keep it safe until they moved them in. Yeah well there's always more 1604 02:45:47,760 --> 02:45:55,060 demand than there are slots available you know and you know one thing that's great about 1605 02:45:55,060 --> 02:45:58,780 the county of San Mateo. I think I think Rachel, I don't want to steal all your thunder, Rachel, but 1606 02:45:58,780 --> 02:46:04,300 you know the county has declared that they helped to solve homelessness in San Mateo County by the 1607 02:46:04,300 --> 02:46:09,720 end of 2022. You know they're building a big navigation center in Redwood City that you know 1608 02:46:09,720 --> 02:46:14,820 if that navigation center were here now we'd be able to move people into that navigation 1609 02:46:14,820 --> 02:46:18,500 center pretty quickly. So the county has definitely stepped up. So I think what's 1610 02:46:18,500 --> 02:46:22,960 happened is there's been more units come online. So more apartments have been built 1611 02:46:22,960 --> 02:46:29,020 but also more interim uses have been, I don't want to say acquired, but they've gotten access to 1612 02:46:29,020 --> 02:46:32,920 that. I do think they've invested a lot of ARPA money. So although COVID was, 1613 02:46:34,260 --> 02:46:39,140 so they have been able to get more hotel leases, things like that. So I think they have increased 1614 02:46:39,140 --> 02:46:44,340 their capacity. And I do think a lot of people that they were serving initially have graduated 1615 02:46:44,340 --> 02:46:51,380 on to more independent housing. So the benefit to us is there's openings. Let's take advantage 1616 02:46:52,100 --> 02:46:56,820 Because if not, there's a line of folks that will definitely take those slots if we don't. 1617 02:46:57,380 --> 02:47:00,820 So we're chomping at the bed to kind of get in there and help those people as quickly as possible. 1618 02:47:01,660 --> 02:47:17,140 Great. Thank you. And then just one small quick question in terms of being on the hook, would there be particular funding sources that the city would draw from to reimburse people or is it just all staff time that is the fiscal impact and so forth of this initiative? 1619 02:47:18,000 --> 02:47:30,600 Yeah, it's a really good question. I mean, when we look at our costs, it would probably be more the day of, you know, we're not on the hook for any of the most expensive, which would be the subsidies or the outreach workers at the county is already paying. 1620 02:47:30,940 --> 02:47:40,180 So, you know, I do think we'll probably have some costs for some debris removal but, you know, we already have a lot of those costs already budgeted in like I talked about earlier there's been a few clean up so we're not anticipating. 1621 02:47:40,760 --> 02:47:41,940 I'll say it this way. 1622 02:47:42,040 --> 02:47:43,900 We think that we have appropriate budget authority 1623 02:47:43,900 --> 02:47:44,760 with our current budget. 1624 02:47:45,300 --> 02:47:47,100 As we go through these next, 1625 02:47:47,260 --> 02:47:49,080 we're gonna be meeting weekly with the county 1626 02:47:49,080 --> 02:47:50,920 and the rest up to the May 23rd date. 1627 02:47:51,400 --> 02:47:53,540 If we see something, we cheer you on somewhere, 1628 02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:55,000 I go, we should go to council for that. 1629 02:47:55,100 --> 02:47:55,900 We'll definitely do that. 1630 02:47:55,940 --> 02:47:57,240 But right now we think that are, 1631 02:47:57,700 --> 02:47:59,100 it's like you said, council member, 1632 02:47:59,460 --> 02:48:01,960 it's more of the staff time to kind of coordinate 1633 02:48:01,960 --> 02:48:05,440 and to be the face of it and from there. 1634 02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:06,820 But if not, we'll definitely come back 1635 02:48:06,820 --> 02:48:08,420 and seek authority for that. 1636 02:48:08,420 --> 02:48:09,900 Thank you so much. 1637 02:48:12,470 --> 02:48:18,110 Any other comments, questions, and then I'll go to the public. 1638 02:48:21,360 --> 02:48:21,880 Let's see. 1639 02:48:24,050 --> 02:48:31,330 Not hearing any right away. Let me see if any members of the public. James, would you check to see anyone? 1640 02:48:31,970 --> 02:48:34,630 Yes, there's one speaker, Gail Wilkerson. 1641 02:48:35,510 --> 02:48:35,790 Okay. 1642 02:48:35,790 --> 02:48:36,610 citizen 1643 02:48:39,110 --> 02:48:47,170 number one here. Oh, Gail. Again, I just had a question because last time you 1644 02:48:47,170 --> 02:48:54,130 guys discussed this, you'd say something like if one left, two more would come. So how are 1645 02:48:54,130 --> 02:49:01,630 you going to stop those people from coming? I mean, right out there on the off ramp and 1646 02:49:01,630 --> 02:49:07,210 Donahoe, there's a little colony forming. I don't know if you noticed them. What's 1647 02:49:07,210 --> 02:49:13,510 to stop them from walking across down the whole past the Chevron station and into the park knowing 1648 02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:22,770 their vacancies there and a friend of mine who wanted to put on an activity at that park she's 1649 02:49:22,770 --> 02:49:31,690 kind of afraid because of what they call bad elements might happen you know but I'm glad to 1650 02:49:31,690 --> 02:49:38,190 you guys look like you did a lot of work and I appreciate it and those people should be in houses 1651 02:49:38,190 --> 02:49:46,970 somewhere but I'm worried about people coming back and maybe some other kind of bad element 1652 02:49:46,970 --> 02:49:57,210 will show up so that's that's what a lot of us fear just not just me at least six more people I 1653 02:49:57,210 --> 02:50:05,710 talk to. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else you see from the public? I've 1654 02:50:05,710 --> 02:50:10,170 seen them here. Okay. All right, let me see if there are any other questions or comments. 1655 02:50:10,350 --> 02:50:17,550 Otherwise, I don't think there's a resolution or anything. I think you just want to, yeah, 1656 02:50:17,570 --> 02:50:23,970 we just want to give direction to continue with this plan, including that date. And yes, 1657 02:50:25,860 --> 02:50:28,560 So, any other questions there? 1658 02:50:29,080 --> 02:50:33,520 I don't have any questions. I just want to say thank you to Patrick and to the staff and to the county. 1659 02:50:34,780 --> 02:50:45,580 We know that our parks are important to us and the residents that are there right now need a place to be some glad that we've partnered with the county and these opportunities for housing has approached. 1660 02:50:46,100 --> 02:50:53,400 But at the same time, summer has come right around the corner and our youth need to be able to access the park, especially with the YMCA. 1661 02:50:53,400 --> 02:51:05,320 So glad to see that we are getting here hoping it will be a smooth transition and in addition to project we hope we know that we have onyx village that does a lot of great work with the homeless in the park. 1662 02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:11,860 They had a day of love on one Sunday where they had job training vendors clothing food. 1663 02:51:12,400 --> 02:51:17,180 A vogue services is out talking to the homeless as well, so I would like to make sure that 1664 02:51:17,180 --> 02:51:23,180 where we can link them in, let's make sure that they're included in the conversation 1665 02:51:23,180 --> 02:51:26,980 as well, because I think they're out there every day taking food to the homeless as 1666 02:51:26,980 --> 02:51:27,180 well. 1667 02:51:28,020 --> 02:51:28,840 So, thank you. 1668 02:51:29,240 --> 02:51:29,280 Great. 1669 02:51:29,660 --> 02:51:29,720 Yeah. 1670 02:51:30,840 --> 02:51:33,460 So, I think one, 1671 02:51:35,960 --> 02:51:41,300 several people mentioned this in one of the meetings that, you know, 1672 02:51:41,300 --> 02:51:47,900 On the one hand, it is the city's, I mean, the county has the resources, they have responsibility 1673 02:51:47,900 --> 02:51:52,000 for the homeless in a certain way, but it really comes down to every city having its 1674 02:51:52,000 --> 02:51:52,560 own plan. 1675 02:51:52,700 --> 02:51:58,320 So whenever saying, well, you got to take the lead, they weren't, you know, telling 1676 02:51:58,320 --> 02:52:02,960 us only us, any city who wants to do something, they're going to do that. 1677 02:52:02,980 --> 02:52:10,200 So I think just to clarify that, so it is a joint project, but we're, you know, 1678 02:52:10,200 --> 02:52:16,860 were the lead agency, you might say, in this. The other thing that was very positive, I think, 1679 02:52:16,920 --> 02:52:23,380 was that by doing this, it does send a common message to all the people who are on-house. 1680 02:52:23,800 --> 02:52:30,120 In other words, we're sitting May 23rd. That is when all of you will have a place. 1681 02:52:30,880 --> 02:52:38,340 And so, please, you know, be ready to be someplace. And I think that whatever 1682 02:52:38,340 --> 02:52:43,760 organization is going by helping in any way that at some point needs to reinforce that message, 1683 02:52:43,760 --> 02:52:50,600 because then people will understand. And it's not going to definitely be a sweep, like Patrick said, 1684 02:52:50,680 --> 02:52:55,120 because in other places that is what's happened. People get frustrated and whatever and they do 1685 02:52:55,620 --> 02:53:00,960 that, which is not a very good way to do that. So, anyway, hoping that between now and then 1686 02:53:00,960 --> 02:53:06,780 we'll begin to send that message to people that there is help, more help coming, but we 1687 02:53:06,780 --> 02:53:12,020 need the park for the entire community including them they want to come and use it but not to 1688 02:53:12,020 --> 02:53:16,960 live there so yeah thank you right but there's I think you have direction from the council 1689 02:53:16,960 --> 02:53:22,840 and then we'll go to the next one which is another one that does have a little more 1690 02:53:25,560 --> 02:53:31,080 well a different area of work that the city can do to be ready for this. 1691 02:53:32,180 --> 02:53:35,960 Yeah and I'm going to turn it over to Rachel here in a minute but I kind of want to preface 1692 02:53:35,960 --> 02:53:42,660 with, so we have this plan now for Bell Street Park specifically, but in this economy and 1693 02:53:42,660 --> 02:53:46,900 in this market, there's going to be, as Ms. Wilkerson stated, there's going to be other 1694 02:53:46,900 --> 02:53:52,520 people that that are on house. And so what we're trying to do is really try to look 1695 02:53:52,520 --> 02:53:56,100 at our code and see how we can, you know, provide some flexibility for entities that 1696 02:53:56,100 --> 02:54:00,660 might want to help out with the next, you know, influx that the city might see. 1697 02:54:01,680 --> 02:54:04,500 It's really hard to do it when you're trying to address like everybody has Bell 1698 02:54:04,500 --> 02:54:08,600 Park in mind. Our hope is that before any of these things that we discussed tonight are 1699 02:54:08,600 --> 02:54:12,920 in play, everybody at Bell Street Park hopefully will be housed. What we want to do is really 1700 02:54:12,920 --> 02:54:18,220 set it forward to try to make sure that we're nimble for the next person, or God forbid 1701 02:54:18,220 --> 02:54:21,180 if there were a fire and so we need to be housed immediately, something like that. 1702 02:54:21,460 --> 02:54:25,280 So I might turn over to Rachel, but this is more of like a kind of not a long-term 1703 02:54:25,280 --> 02:54:30,800 but more like an intermittent term or mid-range term that would probably be to help people 1704 02:54:30,800 --> 02:54:33,380 out more in the future. So I just kind of want to practice with that. So Rachel, 1705 02:54:33,380 --> 02:54:33,540 Rachel. 1706 02:54:33,720 --> 02:54:34,480 Take it from her. 1707 02:54:34,600 --> 02:54:34,840 Thank you. 1708 02:54:35,900 --> 02:54:37,240 Thank you, Patrick. 1709 02:54:38,300 --> 02:54:38,700 Okay. 1710 02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:40,700 Next presentation. 1711 02:54:42,780 --> 02:54:45,580 Rachel Horst, again, Housing and Economic Filming Manager. 1712 02:54:46,760 --> 02:54:55,040 This presentation, yeah, it really is, I put an agenda here, but it really is designed 1713 02:54:55,040 --> 02:55:01,140 to pick up where Patrick left off with the presentation on Bell Street, but the focus 1714 02:55:01,140 --> 02:55:09,880 of this presentation is to follow up on what we discussed at the February 1st meeting and the 1715 02:55:09,880 --> 02:55:17,760 direction we received from City Council to find ways to, as Patrick said, facilitate temporary 1716 02:55:17,760 --> 02:55:24,580 housing solutions, interim housing solutions, because even with the county increasing its 1717 02:55:24,580 --> 02:55:31,540 capacity, even with more money flowing in, there is always going to be more demand for 1718 02:55:31,540 --> 02:55:36,560 housing and providing it now and providing it in the community to people who become or 1719 02:55:36,560 --> 02:55:41,820 experience homelessness in East Palo Alto is a vital part of this strategy. 1720 02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:48,120 So it's really just another part of the same overall housing strategy. 1721 02:55:50,260 --> 02:55:58,080 So just as a quick background from the last meeting where we discussed unhoused residents, 1722 02:55:58,280 --> 02:56:06,160 both in RVs and in encampments, staff took this direction and has been implementing it 1723 02:56:06,160 --> 02:56:12,140 particularly for RVs. Patrick already referenced the work that Public Works has been doing. 1724 02:56:12,140 --> 02:56:18,920 They have been out there and taking stock of the number of RVs that are in the public 1725 02:56:18,920 --> 02:56:19,680 right of way. 1726 02:56:19,860 --> 02:56:22,620 I believe the count today is 20. 1727 02:56:23,400 --> 02:56:31,500 And they are informing owners of the city's regulations and working out a time to collect 1728 02:56:31,500 --> 02:56:36,720 traffic debris if necessary, as Patrick mentioned, this happened recently. 1729 02:56:36,720 --> 02:56:40,660 it wasn't an encampment, it was a cleanup of the creek. 1730 02:56:41,660 --> 02:56:49,040 But these cleanup operations are very important and that continued communication with RV dwellers 1731 02:56:49,040 --> 02:56:50,500 is also very important. 1732 02:56:50,800 --> 02:56:52,980 So staff is continuing to do that. 1733 02:56:53,500 --> 02:56:58,880 The third bullet point there, we will follow up on the extension of the RV State Parking 1734 02:56:58,880 --> 02:56:59,220 Program. 1735 02:56:59,880 --> 02:57:01,500 That's for the next council meeting. 1736 02:57:01,500 --> 02:57:26,460 The other half of the discussion on February 1st was on encampments in the city and staff received direction to continue maintaining the basically maintaining Bell Street Park as it is while we developed a plan to that Patrick just presented on and also, excuse me, 1737 02:57:26,460 --> 02:57:39,000 And also engaging the county in conversations about how to address homelessness citywide. Finally, what I'm going to go over now is options for temporary housing to immediately address the need. 1738 02:57:39,740 --> 02:57:47,280 And, and to really handle the high volume of individuals experiencing homelessness at any given time in the fall. 1739 02:57:47,280 --> 02:57:57,180 So staff recommendation really revolved around an existing part of our development code. 1740 02:57:57,340 --> 02:58:04,320 So what staff did is we went back and we put our heads together between planning and housing and building, 1741 02:58:04,520 --> 02:58:06,660 and we also looked at what other cities are doing. 1742 02:58:07,300 --> 02:58:12,880 And we said what is available to us, what tools already exist, 1743 02:58:12,880 --> 02:58:23,260 what is needed to enable temporary housing to very quickly materialize on sites throughout 1744 02:58:23,260 --> 02:58:23,820 the city. 1745 02:58:24,040 --> 02:58:31,240 If there is an interested party, and by that I mean if there is an interested faith community 1746 02:58:31,990 --> 02:58:36,580 that wants to do a temporary shelter program, we have many examples of that throughout 1747 02:58:36,580 --> 02:58:43,240 the Bay Area of rotating shelter programs between faith communities working with a service provider. 1748 02:58:43,620 --> 02:58:50,620 If we have a piece of land, a parcel that is currently vacant but has a development proposal, 1749 02:58:51,000 --> 02:58:56,500 that will be vacant for at least a year or some period of time before construction starts, 1750 02:58:56,660 --> 02:59:02,140 and that property owner is interested in using that land to temporarily provide housing. 1751 02:59:02,140 --> 02:59:07,320 Or if there is a private landowner who or another again, 1752 02:59:07,420 --> 02:59:10,360 a congregation that is interested in providing overnight parking, 1753 02:59:11,820 --> 02:59:14,800 maybe similarly to the RV Safe Parking Program, 1754 02:59:15,440 --> 02:59:20,380 any of these organizations or entities can come forward and propose 1755 02:59:21,280 --> 02:59:26,640 one of these three categories, one of these three activities. 1756 02:59:27,080 --> 02:59:31,420 But today, if they were to do that, and we most certainly invite them to do that, 1757 02:59:31,420 --> 02:59:47,320 But if they were to do that today, there is no program, there is no, it's not very easy to navigate the city's development code or the city's building code to really understand how the permitting process works. 1758 02:59:48,200 --> 02:59:55,420 So staff recommendations revolve around the temporary use permit process and streamlining that process. 1759 02:59:55,420 --> 02:59:59,800 to that end we have these three again these are the same 1760 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:07,080 There are three activity areas in this chart, and all this chart tries to show is that there 1761 03:00:07,080 --> 03:00:14,700 is a review process for a temporary use permit, which is a permit provided at the, so this is 1762 03:00:14,700 --> 03:00:21,260 a planning permit for a temporary use of a parcel. It can be applied on any parcel citywide, 1763 03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:29,320 but the temporary use has to be compatible with the site and the site's existing zoning 1764 03:00:29,320 --> 03:00:38,080 and with the surrounding uses, and it can't be counter to the ultimate use of the site, the existing zoning of the site. 1765 03:00:38,420 --> 03:00:45,580 The maximum length of time that a temporary use permit can be in place is for one year. So it is, again, a very temporary. 1766 03:00:45,580 --> 03:00:51,920 It can be approved at a planning director hearing, so there is some review involved. 1767 03:00:52,700 --> 03:01:02,260 And the findings have to be that that temporary use is again in line somehow with the with the parcel zoning and with whatever surrounds that parcel. 1768 03:01:02,740 --> 03:01:12,680 And then in most cases there's also a building permit required, not in the case of providing parking overnight parking programs of course because there's no structure placed on the property. 1769 03:01:12,680 --> 03:01:16,600 But there are always site standards and conditions that will apply. 1770 03:01:16,880 --> 03:01:19,840 We have the example of the RBC parking program. 1771 03:01:21,060 --> 03:01:29,740 That's a program that's been in place for three years now, where there is an operator project we hope and there it happens to be on a city owned site. 1772 03:01:30,380 --> 03:01:39,960 But there are requirements that are standards that are set forth in the agreement with project we hope these are things that are listed here like what is the maximum number of vehicles. 1773 03:01:39,960 --> 03:01:41,940 What is the spacing of those vehicles? 1774 03:01:42,200 --> 03:01:43,920 Is there a management plan for the site? 1775 03:01:44,620 --> 03:01:51,460 What are the, you know, is there access to facilities and things of that nature? 1776 03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:56,700 Very basic but important standards for a site even if there's going to be just parking. 1777 03:01:57,240 --> 03:02:01,200 If there is an existing structure that could be used as a shelter, 1778 03:02:01,440 --> 03:02:06,740 perhaps it's a portion of maybe the community center at a local church or the sanctuary. 1779 03:02:06,740 --> 03:02:25,100 any area that can be used as a temporary shelter. We would also apply standards to that site that prioritized life safety, of course, and, you know, minimizing fire danger and any basic standards that we would apply to any housing or shelter structure. 1780 03:02:25,840 --> 03:02:36,140 And then of course, if there are temporary structures that can be placed on the property, so these are like manufacturing housing or the modular units that don't have a permanent foundation. 1781 03:02:36,500 --> 03:02:51,220 Those two would have site standards and conditions that we would apply as as a city and then of course and then the fires included there because as a very important agency in all of these temporary use permit review processes. 1782 03:02:51,220 --> 03:02:56,860 because of course fire safety is key in each of these scenarios. 1783 03:02:58,060 --> 03:03:06,800 So what the staff have really coalesced around is this concept of a master TEP process where 1784 03:03:06,800 --> 03:03:16,220 we would create basically a universal application for any, again, any interested parties to fill 1785 03:03:16,220 --> 03:03:25,300 Check the boxes depending on the type of use that they would like to propose would fall in one of these categories. These are the standards that you have to meet. 1786 03:03:25,480 --> 03:03:36,940 This is what as an applicant you have to demonstrate in order to get that approval. This is an inspection that will occur and so on and so forth so that all of that information is consolidated. 1787 03:03:36,940 --> 03:03:51,300 And it is transparent and available to the applicant because we do not expect that applicants are going to come forward with, you know, with a whole team of a whole development team of architects engineers, so on and so forth. 1788 03:03:51,620 --> 03:03:56,220 These are, you know, we're specifically designing this for ease of use. 1789 03:03:56,220 --> 03:04:08,520 and for those in the community who really want to step up and provide safe but temporary housing for residents who are experiencing or unhoused at the moment. 1790 03:04:10,740 --> 03:04:26,920 So the other, having trouble advancing my slides, the other very important aspect of providing housing as immediately as possible and making sure that we can get 1791 03:04:26,920 --> 03:04:32,840 individuals who are currently living outside into temporary and permanent 1792 03:04:32,840 --> 03:04:37,500 housing is, as Patrick was also discussing with regards to Bell Street Park, 1793 03:04:37,760 --> 03:04:43,600 the need for beautification, cleanup, and activation of public sites. And this is 1794 03:04:43,600 --> 03:04:49,180 an ongoing need. This is not going to be just related to Bell Street Park or one 1795 03:04:49,180 --> 03:04:53,860 particular instance. This is an ongoing need in all cities. And so staff 1796 03:04:53,860 --> 03:05:08,260 has done some research and we did have a chance to connect with the downtown streets team, which is an organization that operates all over actually now throughout California and Central Valley and Sacramento and the area, Palo Alto. 1797 03:05:08,260 --> 03:05:26,860 So, and the model of, of, of downtown streets is to engage unhoused residents so in any particular cities on East Palo Alto, there will be outreach and recruitment of unhoused individuals to join downtown streets team. 1798 03:05:27,120 --> 03:05:36,180 And what that means is for four hours a day on weekdays, going out and doing cleanup at designated sites in the city. 1799 03:05:36,180 --> 03:05:47,380 And then having weekly team meetings and, importantly, meetings with not only other team members, but with case managers and getting connected and on a path to housing. 1800 03:05:47,640 --> 03:05:52,020 So it's very consistent engagement and consistent activities. 1801 03:05:52,560 --> 03:06:02,520 And at the same time, because downtown streets team works with public works and maintenance staff. There is a concerted cleanup effort in areas where it's most needed in the city. 1802 03:06:03,340 --> 03:06:11,240 Now this does of course come with a cost and staff has held initial conversations with other agencies to attempt a cost share. 1803 03:06:11,800 --> 03:06:15,120 We did get an initial estimate of 390,000 for one year. 1804 03:06:15,680 --> 03:06:25,460 That is a very preliminary estimate and it has to do with, you know, how much downtown streets team expects how many staff they would need and how basically how big of a program it would be. 1805 03:06:26,580 --> 03:06:44,120 But staff has already begun those conversations with the Peninsula regional base district and San Francisco to create JPA and the county. And so we're really looking into how do we spread those costs because this would be of a benefit to all of these entities, of course. 1806 03:06:44,420 --> 03:06:51,360 And ultimately is still achieving the end of getting individuals into permanent housing. 1807 03:06:51,360 --> 03:06:58,060 So that's why I recommend this evening are to direct staff to return with this temporary, 1808 03:06:58,360 --> 03:07:05,680 excuse me, master temporary use permit, master TUP application, the application itself to 1809 03:07:06,070 --> 03:07:09,420 allow for temporary housing for unhoused individuals in the city. 1810 03:07:09,820 --> 03:07:14,660 And then also to provide staff with direction on whether to pursue a contract with downtown 1811 03:07:14,660 --> 03:07:20,420 streets team to support unhoused residents and also to assist with cleanup efforts. 1812 03:07:20,420 --> 03:07:31,120 And if city council so wishes to look further into downtown streets team, perhaps you have them do a presentation. I know they would be very willing to do that. 1813 03:07:32,420 --> 03:07:44,340 And so next steps are just picking up where Patrick left off. Of course, we continue to meet and collaborate with the county on a variety of levels at the county manager level and also monthly meetings with staff. 1814 03:07:44,980 --> 03:07:50,420 If so directed, we will begin drafting the application and template documents for the master TUP. 1815 03:07:51,120 --> 03:07:59,100 And we can return with a refined cost estimate for downtown streets team or any additional information or draft agreement for consideration. 1816 03:08:00,860 --> 03:08:01,900 And that is it. 1817 03:08:02,500 --> 03:08:03,620 Take any questions. 1818 03:08:04,980 --> 03:08:12,780 Yeah, any comments and questions? And so there are two kind of two items within this item, 1819 03:08:13,020 --> 03:08:23,620 I think. One is definitely the regulatory part of amending or the temporary use permit of some 1820 03:08:23,620 --> 03:08:36,220 sort, making it easier. And then second, this idea of contracting out with the downtown street 1821 03:08:36,740 --> 03:08:41,080 team. But any question on either one of those from council members? 1822 03:08:43,060 --> 03:08:44,440 Or both, I'm sure. 1823 03:08:46,630 --> 03:08:48,650 Anybody want to jump in? Just go ahead. 1824 03:08:48,890 --> 03:08:51,810 I think it's starting to stay. Rachel, thank you for the report. 1825 03:08:51,810 --> 03:08:57,550 I do remember some years ago Bill Somerville offered to help us with downtown street teams 1826 03:08:57,550 --> 03:09:03,130 and as a council we considered it and I don't know why we did it move forward, so it might 1827 03:09:03,130 --> 03:09:07,750 be worth it to reach out to the philanthropic interest foundations to see if they would 1828 03:09:07,750 --> 03:09:11,890 be still willing to help fund the downtown street teams here in the city. 1829 03:09:13,550 --> 03:09:18,610 So that would be my one recommendation, but I think it's a good idea to work with 1830 03:09:18,610 --> 03:09:19,290 that organization. 1831 03:09:21,710 --> 03:09:24,430 Any other questions, comments? 1832 03:09:28,640 --> 03:09:31,000 Rachel, Mr. Mayor, if I may. 1833 03:09:31,300 --> 03:09:31,400 Here. 1834 03:09:31,940 --> 03:09:38,600 Rachel, I have a question and a partial concern about the TUP process that your master TUP 1835 03:09:38,600 --> 03:09:39,900 process you're putting together. 1836 03:09:40,940 --> 03:09:45,140 Apparently it will be subject to an environmental review. 1837 03:09:46,120 --> 03:09:46,760 Is that correct? 1838 03:09:46,760 --> 03:10:05,680 So, is that just the master TUP process in general or it's every project that goes through this master TUP process would have to have some sort of environmental review and that would that be an MND, you know, what are we talking about? 1839 03:10:06,500 --> 03:10:12,600 I mean, how complicated does the environmental review actually make this particular beast? 1840 03:10:12,600 --> 03:10:31,620 We did state in the staff report that we expect, I mean, when we will speak in blanket terms, because this could be applied to any parcel in the city makes it difficult, but we did state that we expect that it would be categorically exempt from CQA. 1841 03:10:33,180 --> 03:10:42,140 So, we are not expecting extended or or several need for environmental reviewer. 1842 03:10:43,400 --> 03:10:46,600 That is definitely not because that certainly would slow down the process. 1843 03:10:48,280 --> 03:10:50,780 So you think it's a cat X then. 1844 03:10:52,100 --> 03:10:57,960 We say yes, yes, of course, I again, we should check that with legal but it 1845 03:11:00,230 --> 03:11:06,870 certainly invite Mallory to add to that but yes we did we did as a team when we were discussing this. 1846 03:11:07,850 --> 03:11:10,250 And based on our experience with the TUP process. 1847 03:11:10,870 --> 03:11:17,110 And we're reasonably sure that it is, you know, but depending upon the direction from council, we'll look at it again. 1848 03:11:18,390 --> 03:11:22,050 Right and I know I am reminded it's an emergency order. 1849 03:11:22,610 --> 03:11:30,730 It would be kind of under emergency shelter crisis, I guess, declaration so perhaps that helps. 1850 03:11:32,690 --> 03:11:54,150 Thanks. And I think my other, so I will comment on the streets team piece. I, for the downtown streets team. I mean, they've had some challenges. We know that both operationally and, you know, staffing, I'd be interested in finding out more about how the program 1851 03:11:54,150 --> 03:12:00,550 and actually potentially even having the street, the downtown streets team folks present to us. 1852 03:12:00,710 --> 03:12:05,250 I think we need to do a lot more due diligence before we just jump into the downtown streets team. 1853 03:12:05,650 --> 03:12:16,250 But I'm open to hearing kind of how they operate and how they might be able to address this pressing issue we have in EPA. 1854 03:12:16,250 --> 03:12:17,390 Okay. 1855 03:12:19,420 --> 03:12:23,380 Anybody else from the council? Questions or comments? 1856 03:12:26,920 --> 03:12:37,170 And I'll ask if any members of the public, and then we'll come back. James, anybody you see wishing to speak? 1857 03:12:38,530 --> 03:12:44,030 Yeah, so it looks like there's one speaker Donita Churchill, followed by Gil Wilkerson. 1858 03:12:44,550 --> 03:12:44,970 Okay. 1859 03:12:46,530 --> 03:13:04,610 Yes, hello. My name is Denita Churchill. I've been a resident for 20 years. Also, I would like to thank council. I would also ask that you reach out to perhaps some of our neighbors that are living across the street on Bay Road and University. 1860 03:13:04,610 --> 03:13:13,270 city. He's been living in a tent for over five years on Bay Road. Also we still have the trailers 1861 03:13:13,270 --> 03:13:22,570 that are down by the end of Cooley Landing. We also have tents that are now building up over 1862 03:13:23,040 --> 03:13:29,630 at Cooley Landing. So I would also ask that you reach out to those areas as well. Thank you. 1863 03:13:30,950 --> 03:13:35,210 And also, can you reach out to San Francisco as far as the outreach? 1864 03:13:35,770 --> 03:13:45,210 They have a department with Ivy Street in San Francisco that does outreach for drug use 1865 03:13:45,210 --> 03:13:46,550 and homelessness. 1866 03:13:47,230 --> 03:13:47,750 Thank you. 1867 03:13:49,810 --> 03:13:50,770 Thank you. 1868 03:13:51,130 --> 03:13:52,410 Next speaker, Gail Wilkerson. 1869 03:13:55,730 --> 03:13:56,050 Yes. 1870 03:13:56,270 --> 03:13:59,170 I just want to say, citizen number one here. 1871 03:14:00,230 --> 03:14:10,070 Back in 1972, I bought my first house for $16,000 and there was a lot of choices there. 1872 03:14:10,810 --> 03:14:17,370 You could drive down any street in East Palo Alto where you would find 10, 15 houses vacant. 1873 03:14:18,290 --> 03:14:19,550 That's called Blight. 1874 03:14:19,550 --> 03:14:42,950 And I'm wondering, and a lot of the, I want to say is a lot of housing was bought by people who open their houses out to veterans for pregnant teens, the foster care, run the gamut of it. 1875 03:14:43,330 --> 03:14:46,430 That's what our city had to do and they paid taxes. 1876 03:14:47,450 --> 03:14:53,990 I'm saying all I have to say is where are you going to find housing for these people? 1877 03:14:54,270 --> 03:14:59,890 It must be going to be outside this Palo Alto because if you don't, those people who have 1878 03:15:00,780 --> 03:15:13,340 They're up for scrutiny, like the guy on Beach Street. They're going to find out things and they're going to add to it and everything and cause a lot of problems. 1879 03:15:13,580 --> 03:15:30,260 I mean, have you considered all of that also? I think everyone is entitled to housing, but you got to do it the right way and expect, well, want the best, but look at the worst, too. 1880 03:15:30,260 --> 03:15:34,520 because there's always going to be a problem that's happening. 1881 03:15:34,780 --> 03:15:40,440 I wish you success and thank you for all your reports and everything. Thank you. 1882 03:15:44,910 --> 03:15:46,570 Thank you. And those are our last speaker. 1883 03:15:57,980 --> 03:15:59,660 Mr. Brick, I believe you're on mute. 1884 03:16:01,360 --> 03:16:01,840 Apologize. 1885 03:16:02,420 --> 03:16:02,780 No worries. 1886 03:16:03,300 --> 03:16:10,860 No, I was asking if any other questions or comments, and then just reminding us that we 1887 03:16:10,860 --> 03:16:12,700 do have to re- 1888 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:04,800 Mr. Adrian Biggs has designed the last two projects in-house, so this essentially means 1889 03:30:04,800 --> 03:30:09,400 that all of the funds that we receive are spent on construction and implementation of the project, 1890 03:30:09,680 --> 03:30:14,520 and so we are using all the funds as the best we can to make improvements for the community. 1891 03:30:15,880 --> 03:30:19,840 I'm going to pass it over to Adrian, Mr. Adrian Biggs now. He's going to talk a little bit 1892 03:30:19,840 --> 03:30:25,640 about the different types of treatments for pavement and also what we've accomplished 1893 03:30:25,640 --> 03:30:28,720 published over the last few years and a little bit about the upcoming project. 1894 03:30:29,240 --> 03:30:29,660 So, Adrian. 1895 03:30:30,440 --> 03:30:31,220 Thank you, Hamza. 1896 03:30:32,160 --> 03:30:34,200 Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council. 1897 03:30:34,720 --> 03:30:38,640 Hamza, do you mind if I share screen to take control, or would you like to just click 1898 03:30:38,640 --> 03:30:39,160 when I say next? 1899 03:30:41,390 --> 03:30:41,590 Okay. 1900 03:30:41,990 --> 03:30:42,670 I'll take care of it. 1901 03:30:42,890 --> 03:30:43,250 Sounds good. 1902 03:30:43,730 --> 03:30:47,410 So, we'll do a quick background on some of the, a little bit of a technical background. 1903 03:30:47,550 --> 03:30:51,270 I'll keep it very brief just to give you an idea of what we say when we refer 1904 03:30:51,270 --> 03:30:52,170 to different treatment types. 1905 03:30:52,910 --> 03:30:54,610 The first treatment type is a slurry seal. 1906 03:30:55,210 --> 03:31:05,490 This is simply basically a manicure for the roadway. We come in, give it a nice surface coat to close up any cracks to smooth the surface and to really tighten it down. 1907 03:31:05,930 --> 03:31:11,670 And so as you can see in the picture on the right, the before is on the right side where you see some crack seal from where cracks are formed. 1908 03:31:12,050 --> 03:31:21,550 And on the left side is where the slurry seals applied and provides a really nice uniform black surface that also seals in the cracks and prevents any degradation. 1909 03:31:21,550 --> 03:31:24,750 This also is well improved skid resistance. 1910 03:31:25,310 --> 03:31:28,390 So during storms and during rain events, it can help with driving. 1911 03:31:29,130 --> 03:31:29,610 Next, please. 1912 03:31:29,750 --> 03:31:35,570 The big one that a lot of people look for is this what we call mill and fill. 1913 03:31:36,310 --> 03:31:38,430 Basically, it's also called grind and overlay. 1914 03:31:39,050 --> 03:31:42,990 I used Fordham here as a prime example since we'll be doing this on the upcoming project. 1915 03:31:43,390 --> 03:31:47,090 But as you can see, there's a lot of cracking and there's a lot of different road surfaces. 1916 03:31:47,090 --> 03:31:55,490 So in this case this road has reached that point where it cannot just be given a surface coat to repair it. It actually has to be dug out as you can see in the image on the right. 1917 03:31:56,070 --> 03:32:05,210 And then a new inch or a new new generally two to three inch layer of asphalt is overlaid onto the surface giving it a brand new road surface. 1918 03:32:05,870 --> 03:32:10,130 So it acts nearly as it did the day it was was first constructed. 1919 03:32:11,870 --> 03:32:20,530 The final type is road reconstruction. So this, this is a bit of a bigger challenge than managing the overall network health. 1920 03:32:21,290 --> 03:32:31,250 The reason for this is because generally it costs more. And the reason it costs more is because there's a lot of additional work that is needed to make sure that it doesn't quickly return back to its previous condition. 1921 03:32:31,250 --> 03:32:40,390 And Humson had mentioned earlier that when water gets into the soil underneath the roadway that it can cause expansion it cause cracking and it can cause other issues. 1922 03:32:41,010 --> 03:32:57,590 And this is what causes rose to degrade more quickly than the original curve predicts. And so, when we do these projects we make sure to not only repair the base layer, create a brand new, what we call subgrade at a new asphalt surface but we also need to improve any of the drainage 1923 03:32:57,590 --> 03:33:04,990 issues that are there, adding drainage systems, adding curb and gutter to help a flow to make sure that none of that water gets back and underneath the roadway. 1924 03:33:05,550 --> 03:33:11,910 And so, generally, because of this due to their cost, these roads are only fixed when there's additional funding that becomes available. 1925 03:33:12,770 --> 03:33:24,330 On average, these are what, as in what I mentioned before, these are the $10 cost compared to the one or the six. These are the very expensive fixes even a short stretch of road can be incredibly expensive. 1926 03:33:24,870 --> 03:33:34,070 Next, please. I've added some images here just to show you how this would kind of happen. We just use running meat as a prime example of a road that does need reconstruction as of now. 1927 03:33:35,190 --> 03:33:39,550 You can see on the left hand side the entire roadway is basically falling apart and nearly doesn't exist. 1928 03:33:40,190 --> 03:33:47,410 And this is due to drainage issues. And so generally, we'll include drainage and new subgrade compaction as you can see in the image on the lower right. 1929 03:33:48,130 --> 03:34:00,390 And so what we do when it comes to Rosa potentially require reconstruction, we'll send out a team with our from our geotechnical consultants to do in a geotechnical investigation to kind of determine where the underlying conditions well how high is the water table. 1930 03:34:01,130 --> 03:34:05,990 Is the soil still compacted is it not and they'll give us a recommendation on how we fix that. 1931 03:34:06,410 --> 03:34:14,470 And Addison Avenue as hundreds that is a prime example of this where we've incorporated all of these solutions to all of the underlying solution underlying conditions. 1932 03:34:14,470 --> 03:34:29,970 Next, please. Some examples of previous projects just to show how we've done these kind of multimodal these universal improvements. We did a millenfill here on Polgus Avenue, give it a brand new road surface we added storm drain improvements to help with the flow as you can see on the left hand side and the after 1933 03:34:29,970 --> 03:34:43,890 image. We've also had in pedestrian improvements we we fixed some sidewalk and we also add curb ramps to the corners. Finally added bike facilities on Polgus and bike lanes in this case which have actually helped to open up the sidewalks and people are parking a little bit 1934 03:34:43,890 --> 03:34:48,030 further out so the sidewalks are not as blocked as much as they previously have been. Next please. 1935 03:34:49,350 --> 03:35:03,950 O'Connor Street is a prime example of what we call slurry seal, where the road surface is not in terrible condition but it does need a coat to make sure it does not get for it doesn't degrade further and so we gave it a nice slurry seal coat and added new bike facility and striping improvements here as you can see with the green 1936 03:35:04,530 --> 03:35:05,110 Next, please. 1937 03:35:06,350 --> 03:35:13,950 Merrill Street is what we would call a digout location and pedestrian improvement. So here we actually closed a gap in our pedestrian network. 1938 03:35:14,490 --> 03:35:22,530 We added curb gutter and sidewalk, as well as doing what we call digouts where we actually repair the soil subgrade, add in a new layer of AC in a small area. 1939 03:35:22,690 --> 03:35:28,290 These are very much so like patch repairs. And the final product is a very uniform surface. Next, please. 1940 03:35:29,630 --> 03:35:35,970 Finally, running meat street. This is one where we included all both soaring drain and huge amounts of pedestrian improvements who closed a large gap here. 1941 03:35:36,790 --> 03:35:42,230 Put a brand new road surface in and then also added bike lanes and bike bike arrows to this location. 1942 03:35:44,310 --> 03:35:49,910 Moving on to the project coming up here this next summer that's here tonight for your approval and recommendation for bids. 1943 03:35:50,630 --> 03:36:05,490 You can see a map on the left that will show what are the dark gray ones will be the roads that will be completely giving new surfaces to the light gray will be the ones that will be giving a nice slurry seal treatment to and the greens dashed line will be new bike lanes that will be adding and this 1944 03:36:05,490 --> 03:36:10,170 total is about seven, nearly eight miles of bike lanes will be adding in this in the project this year. 1945 03:36:10,830 --> 03:36:18,250 The two lists here 2021 and 2022 on the right hand side are coming from our pavement management plan that we presented and it was approved by council. 1946 03:36:18,950 --> 03:36:22,530 This just list out what streets from what sections and what treatment type. 1947 03:36:22,910 --> 03:36:27,410 So I won't be going through all of those but we have a very expansive project this year. 1948 03:36:28,870 --> 03:36:38,750 So, additional work going into this year's project will be adding speed homes that were previously approved by the City Council at various locations in the city will be doing ball bouts as approved under the mobility study. 1949 03:36:39,110 --> 03:36:43,890 This will be an alternative bid we are seeking funds for this but we we have intention to to complete this. 1950 03:36:44,870 --> 03:36:55,010 There will be adding curb ramps at various locations that have been requested by residents who have new or have mobility issues will also be doing improved striping throughout the city. 1951 03:36:55,010 --> 03:37:06,230 bike lane and striping in accordance with the bike master plan. That's the seven miles, seven to eight miles of bike lanes will also be improving a few pedestrian crossings at various locations throughout the city. 1952 03:37:06,970 --> 03:37:07,410 Next please. 1953 03:37:08,330 --> 03:37:18,290 The project budget. This is the current breakdown. You can see here it has the source the cost and the use will primarily be using measure a measure m gas tax measure w and ASIC. 1954 03:37:18,910 --> 03:37:22,950 ASIC is a grant that we received through the Affordable Housing and Sustainable Communities 1955 03:37:22,950 --> 03:37:29,510 grant through HDD. That was a couple of years ago now. Gas taxes are annual revenue for roadway 1956 03:37:29,510 --> 03:37:33,590 improvements, and we'll be combining Measure A, Measure M, and Measure W to do additional 1957 03:37:33,590 --> 03:37:38,250 pedestrian and roadway improvements as well. Coming out to a project total of approximately 1958 03:37:38,250 --> 03:37:39,590 $3.8 million. 1959 03:37:42,460 --> 03:37:43,160 Thank you. 1960 03:37:47,120 --> 03:37:49,080 Happy to answer any questions from the council. 1961 03:37:49,800 --> 03:38:04,500 Yeah, so if you've concluded, thank you for the report. And yeah, let's see if questions, comments from council members at this point, and I'll just jump in on anything. 1962 03:38:09,560 --> 03:38:19,920 Thank you so much, Adrian, for the report. It's really great. You know, a lot of the community members always say, when is this, you're going to get fixed. And how about this? So it's great to see it all listed out. 1963 03:38:20,300 --> 03:38:33,840 I guess my first question would be how regular do these improvements have to be, you know, is it every five or seven, you know, it's obviously through the weather, inclement weather that affects it. But generally speaking, how often these improvements have to be made. 1964 03:38:36,260 --> 03:38:42,840 I also remember, Lopez, so the improvements, as long as we're keeping the PCI at a level, 1965 03:38:43,160 --> 03:38:46,880 and that means doing projects at a minimum of every two years. 1966 03:38:48,680 --> 03:38:50,820 You know, we don't want to miss out on a project. 1967 03:38:51,020 --> 03:38:54,220 When we design these projects, they take about six to eight months to design. 1968 03:38:55,000 --> 03:38:57,720 And then, you know, of course, you have to go through the implementation. 1969 03:38:57,940 --> 03:39:03,780 A lot of times it makes sense in order to get better bids to just combine as 1970 03:39:03,780 --> 03:39:08,560 much as we can into one large project because then you'll get better bits. And so that's 1971 03:39:08,560 --> 03:39:16,300 what we've done this year is we've combined the 2021 and 2022 project into one large project 1972 03:39:16,300 --> 03:39:22,580 and we're hoping to do a lot more with the money that we have. So, yes, at a minimum 1973 03:39:22,580 --> 03:39:25,880 you want to keep preserving the streets every two years at a minimum. 1974 03:39:28,620 --> 03:39:32,760 Hamza, if I may add just with the different treatment types, on most roads you want 1975 03:39:32,760 --> 03:39:39,200 also have habitual maintenance. So a slurry seal can last anywhere between five to seven years, 1976 03:39:39,460 --> 03:39:43,500 depending on how quickly it degrades. So we then reanalyze that using the PTAP 1977 03:39:43,500 --> 03:39:48,680 county program to have an inspection done. So then that's just revalidated how often those 1978 03:39:48,680 --> 03:39:49,400 need to be redone. 1979 03:39:53,860 --> 03:39:57,680 Thank you. Because one of the concerns, I guess, the concerns or questions 1980 03:39:57,680 --> 03:40:01,320 I had is, you know, and I saw the slide of the different measures, different funding 1981 03:40:01,320 --> 03:40:04,620 stores pulled together. But, you know, when you're dealing with products like these, 1982 03:40:04,620 --> 03:40:15,560 It comes easily in the millions. So I think, you know, I think the council, I would encourage the council and us find opportunity to see if we can have a systemic or sustainable source of funding for these projects. 1983 03:40:16,340 --> 03:40:29,340 That's something that the city sees you set 83 lanes a mile. So I know we're doing a ballot measure, but I think it's something that we should strongly consider in the near future to really boost up and improve the streets in our community. 1984 03:40:30,200 --> 03:40:45,540 Yeah. Thank you, Council Member Lupa. So, right now, the only sustainable funding source we have is to SB1, which has been coming in, you know, fortunately for the last few years, I'd say, three to five years, I think we've consistently had money coming in through the SB1 program. 1985 03:40:45,540 --> 03:40:52,740 And that has allowed us to sustain and continue this program, because before that, there was, 1986 03:40:52,740 --> 03:40:57,660 like, I think three or four years of no activity on our pavements, and that significantly impacted 1987 03:40:58,330 --> 03:40:59,160 the PCI. 1988 03:41:00,140 --> 03:41:05,860 So, yeah, we want to continue that, and we're fortunate and we're hopeful that the SB1 funding will continue. 1989 03:41:09,140 --> 03:41:11,900 Any other questions or comments? 1990 03:41:16,260 --> 03:41:22,660 I mean, look, measure A, measure W, and the gas tax are consistent, they come in every 1991 03:41:22,660 --> 03:41:23,240 single year. 1992 03:41:23,820 --> 03:41:23,840 Right? 1993 03:41:24,300 --> 03:41:30,180 You know, we're paying for A, we're paying for W, the gas tax we all pay for, even though 1994 03:41:30,180 --> 03:41:32,820 some folks would like to stick a holiday on it, which doesn't make any sense. 1995 03:41:33,320 --> 03:41:37,640 But where are you reflecting the SB1 money? 1996 03:41:37,640 --> 03:41:52,080 Is that what you're considering? Yeah, where's your SB1 money in this, in this, you know, sources and uses that you have on page 207, or we're not using SB1 right now for this project? 1997 03:41:52,100 --> 03:41:57,060 It is part of the gas tax. So SB1, in this case, the 1.1 million. 1998 03:41:57,660 --> 03:41:58,600 So it's augmented. 1999 03:41:58,600 --> 03:42:00,260 Is the gas tax. Yes. 2000 03:42:00,860 --> 03:42:01,240 Right. 2001 03:42:01,360 --> 03:42:04,660 Yeah, so the measure A, the measure M, the measure W. 2002 03:42:05,300 --> 03:42:18,640 these funds, not all of them can be used towards pavement rehabilitation. Some of them can and some of them can't. Some of them can be used only for pedestrian related activities as well as bike activities. 2003 03:42:19,000 --> 03:42:27,620 So what we have to do is we have to utilize gas tax and the, you know, Measure M, for example, can be used towards pavement but not for sidewalks. 2004 03:42:27,620 --> 03:42:32,680 So we have to, you know, we have to carefully, you know, when we do the bid schedules, carefully 2005 03:42:32,680 --> 03:42:35,620 see how we're funding each activity. 2006 03:42:40,680 --> 03:42:40,980 Okay. 2007 03:42:41,140 --> 03:42:41,300 Yeah. 2008 03:42:41,380 --> 03:42:41,620 Thanks. 2009 03:42:42,020 --> 03:42:47,640 So, but what, let me ask, what is our normal, without SB1 money, right? 2010 03:42:47,920 --> 03:42:52,400 What would our normal take of gas tax be per year? 2011 03:42:52,700 --> 03:42:55,840 I mean, it's somewhere in the $500,000 to $600,000, isn't it? 2012 03:42:56,340 --> 03:42:56,760 Yeah. 2013 03:42:56,900 --> 03:42:58,560 I believe it's $550,000. 2014 03:42:59,120 --> 03:42:59,280 Yeah. 2015 03:42:59,280 --> 03:42:59,980 So, 2016 03:43:03,980 --> 03:43:09,960 but, but this is this is a two year allocation that that correct. Yes, that's correct. 2017 03:43:12,920 --> 03:43:16,260 Yes, we've combined 2021 and 2022. 2018 03:43:18,220 --> 03:43:23,460 Just basically the funding from both, both projects, and we've combined it into one. 2019 03:43:24,020 --> 03:43:33,440 And then and then they're also you know of course, we have some ASIC money $775,000 of ASIC funds from the light project. Yeah. 2020 03:43:33,440 --> 03:43:39,280 Correct. And those can and those can only be used towards bike lane and sidewalk improvements. 2021 03:43:39,660 --> 03:43:39,760 Right. 2022 03:43:41,180 --> 03:43:41,240 Correct. 2023 03:43:44,940 --> 03:43:45,500 Thank you. 2024 03:43:46,100 --> 03:43:49,500 Okay. Any other, any other questions or comments? 2025 03:43:56,650 --> 03:43:59,690 Let me check if any members of the public 2026 03:43:59,690 --> 03:44:05,470 and then we can come back and James, anybody requesting to speak? 2027 03:44:06,130 --> 03:44:10,350 Yes, it looks like there's two speakers, Adrian and Gail Wilkerson. 2028 03:44:10,350 --> 03:44:10,950 Good 2029 03:44:16,870 --> 03:44:21,690 evening again and good evening to Hamza and Adrienne. 2030 03:44:22,990 --> 03:44:29,210 I spoke at your public works and transportation committee commission meetings specifically 2031 03:44:29,210 --> 03:44:32,170 about the restriping of streets that you have repaired. 2032 03:44:32,990 --> 03:44:35,970 And I'd like to know, I mean, I know you can't have a discussion with me right now, 2033 03:44:36,010 --> 03:44:40,670 but I would like to know how you're determining what streets you're going to be restriping. 2034 03:44:41,450 --> 03:44:45,470 I understand that probably some streets in the community have been downgraded from 2035 03:44:45,470 --> 03:44:51,810 avenues to streets but as I stated during those meetings I attended there's a problem with 2036 03:44:51,810 --> 03:44:59,170 double parking we have very narrow streets too and I think having some sort of striping would at 2037 03:44:59,170 --> 03:44:59,970 least let people 2038 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:03,360 People know which side of the street they should remain on. 2039 03:45:03,740 --> 03:45:08,080 And for those people who consistently double park, which is a public safety hazard for people 2040 03:45:08,080 --> 03:45:12,500 trying to get out of their driveways or drive down the streets, right, especially if they're 2041 03:45:12,500 --> 03:45:18,540 on intersections, like right on the corner, perhaps a striping would serve as some sort 2042 03:45:18,540 --> 03:45:23,700 of deterrent, you know, when you park, double park and get out and you're standing on 2043 03:45:23,700 --> 03:45:28,080 that similar divide, you'll know, hmm, maybe I shouldn't take up a whole lane of traffic. 2044 03:45:28,080 --> 03:45:36,560 I know we're not enforcing traffic stuff, but perhaps this could be like a start of that 2045 03:45:37,120 --> 03:45:40,840 mobility thing we've been working on for the last three years. 2046 03:45:41,300 --> 03:45:47,360 Something simple, stripe the streets, and hopefully that will remind people to stay 2047 03:45:47,360 --> 03:45:49,460 on their side of that line. 2048 03:45:49,980 --> 03:45:50,400 That's all. 2049 03:45:51,200 --> 03:45:51,620 Thank you. 2050 03:45:52,480 --> 03:45:53,300 Thank you. 2051 03:45:53,660 --> 03:45:55,180 Next speaker, Gail Wilkerson. 2052 03:45:57,810 --> 03:45:58,690 Good evening again. 2053 03:45:59,630 --> 03:46:08,590 I have a comment and a question. You said that Addison is a problem. You got into the 2054 03:46:08,590 --> 03:46:16,370 root a while why it's like that. Do you understand why it's like that? I mean, you said you'd 2055 03:46:16,370 --> 03:46:24,590 have to dig down and some of the stuff you said. But Addison, it's 2190 Addison is the 2056 03:46:24,590 --> 03:46:33,370 place where Palo Alto Mutual is. They have water coming in. And that might be part of the problem. 2057 03:46:33,870 --> 03:46:42,050 And I'm also wondering if you did any research for the future, when some people say, oh, that's not 2058 03:46:42,050 --> 03:46:50,690 how I bothered with that. But the Francisco Creek used to go down Palo Verde. And if you go dark and dry, 2059 03:46:50,690 --> 03:46:59,370 You'll see this kind of up and down and around there waterways don't like to be, you know, that's a school with mother nature. 2060 03:47:00,250 --> 03:47:07,810 I was wondering if you looked into that because the water you said the water table, it might be, I mean, come in at this. 2061 03:47:08,010 --> 03:47:11,570 Most people in that area, they drink spring water. 2062 03:47:13,490 --> 03:47:19,370 lucky them, nice spring water. Some say it's brown and they complain a lot, but I 2063 03:47:19,370 --> 03:47:23,830 was just want to make that comment because that's probably why Addison is 2064 03:47:23,830 --> 03:47:29,030 the way it is, that mutual water company that may be leaking and the 2065 03:47:29,030 --> 03:47:34,250 Francisco Creek used to go down towards there to Palo Verde all the way to 2066 03:47:35,970 --> 03:47:43,030 I've been here a long time. So, a little bit of something, something. Thank you. 2067 03:47:44,970 --> 03:47:45,910 Have a good day. 2068 03:47:46,570 --> 03:47:49,130 Thank you. Those are last speaker. 2069 03:47:49,870 --> 03:47:50,330 Okay. 2070 03:47:51,210 --> 03:48:00,990 Thanks. So, yes, in this case, we do need to approve some kind of plan. There is a plan proposed. 2071 03:48:00,990 --> 03:48:14,910 We need to approve that by resolution to finish up the work and keep looking for additional funds. I guess the more we do that. But any other questions or comments from council members on any part of the report? 2072 03:48:17,750 --> 03:48:23,170 I guess I had one small question, Mary, and it's very quickly, but if folks wanted to 2073 03:48:24,930 --> 03:48:30,230 comment or provide insight on, particularly on the speed bumps issue, if they want particular 2074 03:48:30,230 --> 03:48:34,350 speed bumps that they want to flag, I know that there's some, a lot of racing going down on 2075 03:48:34,350 --> 03:48:38,090 certain streets in the community. And so if there's something, is there like a place or 2076 03:48:38,090 --> 03:48:46,870 or designated site or web page, the public can submit to the Public Works Department for their consideration. 2077 03:48:47,970 --> 03:48:58,050 Yes, we have a process for speedhumps installation, and they can reach out directly to our engineering email address engineering at cityofpa.org. 2078 03:48:58,810 --> 03:49:04,830 And yeah, for any speedhump request, there's a process and they have to follow the, there's a petition process. 2079 03:49:04,830 --> 03:49:13,610 They have to file a petition, get signatures, get it over to the city, then we schedule something with the Public Works and Transportation Commission for review and approval. 2080 03:49:14,230 --> 03:49:17,370 And if it is approved, then it goes to city council for final approval. 2081 03:49:21,720 --> 03:49:24,560 Okay, any other questions or comments. 2082 03:49:25,780 --> 03:49:27,500 I'll make a motion if you're ready. 2083 03:49:29,340 --> 03:49:30,920 Yes, go ahead. 2084 03:49:31,140 --> 03:49:39,860 I move that we adopt a resolution approving the plans, specifications and estimates for the annual street resurfacing project for 2022. 2085 03:49:40,620 --> 03:49:41,220 Okay. 2086 03:49:41,660 --> 03:49:42,820 Okay, be moved in. 2087 03:49:43,480 --> 03:49:45,680 Second, if we can have roll call, please. 2088 03:49:46,360 --> 03:49:46,900 Mara Brica. 2089 03:49:47,540 --> 03:49:47,880 Yes. 2090 03:49:48,820 --> 03:49:50,120 Council Member Wallace Jones. 2091 03:49:54,780 --> 03:49:55,720 Council Member Wallace Jones. 2092 03:49:56,240 --> 03:49:56,560 Thank you. 2093 03:49:57,520 --> 03:49:58,660 Council Member Lopez. 2094 03:49:58,660 --> 03:50:05,960 us. Yes. Council member Romero. Yes, and I just just a clarification that also authorizes 2095 03:50:05,960 --> 03:50:12,000 the city. The motion would authorize city manager to advertising solicit this for the construction 2096 03:50:17,320 --> 03:50:18,720 Motion carries. 2097 03:50:19,440 --> 03:50:19,680 Okay. 2098 03:50:20,480 --> 03:50:28,640 The almost, well, second to the last item, we have tonight is number seven, developer payment 2099 03:50:28,640 --> 03:50:38,090 obligations connected to the RBD-specific plan, so it's an update on the current situation. 2100 03:50:39,110 --> 03:50:39,750 Yes. 2101 03:50:40,330 --> 03:50:41,370 Hello, Mr. Mayor. 2102 03:50:41,370 --> 03:50:46,050 My name is Amy Chan. I'm the Director of Community and Economic Development and I'll be presenting 2103 03:50:46,050 --> 03:50:52,590 on this item. Our goal for this evening is to affirm previous council direction that 2104 03:50:52,590 --> 03:50:58,350 the developer reimbursement equation that we've set up for the Ravenswood Business 2105 03:50:58,350 --> 03:51:04,350 District specific plan update is still what the city council wants us to move forward 2106 03:51:04,350 --> 03:51:10,530 with. Next slide. I'll give a quick overview of how we got here and then I'll go 2107 03:51:10,530 --> 03:51:16,790 right into the setup and the equation so that we can discuss it with council. Next slide. 2108 03:51:18,410 --> 03:51:23,670 So as you know, the city council, city staff and consultants have been working on the specific 2109 03:51:23,670 --> 03:51:30,890 plan updates since the beginning of the pandemic. There was a great deal of interest around the 2110 03:51:30,890 --> 03:51:37,330 Ravenswood business district area. And so as you can see on the calendar here, a series of 2111 03:51:37,330 --> 03:51:44,890 of requests for proposals and setting up with the City Council contracts to elect and hire 2112 03:51:45,470 --> 03:51:51,030 consultants, RAEMI and associates to help us with this specific plan update. Despite 2113 03:51:51,030 --> 03:51:56,230 the pandemic, City staff and the consultants have been in full swing, getting the specific 2114 03:51:56,230 --> 03:52:04,290 plan going. As I will describe here in a few slides, there are two parts to the update 2115 03:52:04,290 --> 03:52:12,170 and how we phased it. But overall, even during this significant time, while resources are 2116 03:52:12,170 --> 03:52:19,330 very important, we wanted to make sure that it was clear that we didn't want to wait until 2117 03:52:19,330 --> 03:52:26,970 the pandemic slowed down or that development interest further increased. We wanted to 2118 03:52:26,970 --> 03:52:33,270 prepare our city for the Ravenswood Business District specific plan update. 2119 03:52:33,970 --> 03:52:41,270 And so the team has been hard at work setting up City Council study sessions, hosting office 2120 03:52:41,270 --> 03:52:45,010 hours, community meetings, stakeholder roundtable discussions. 2121 03:52:45,570 --> 03:52:52,910 So you'll be hearing more from us more this spring and summer as we launch into further 2122 03:52:52,910 --> 03:52:55,490 engagement off this calendar. 2123 03:52:55,490 --> 03:52:57,110 Next slide. 2124 03:52:59,740 --> 03:53:06,780 So the two phases of the RBD update are really broken into an initial step that 2125 03:53:06,780 --> 03:53:13,520 the Remain Associates team started off with, which was scoping the specific plan update, 2126 03:53:14,020 --> 03:53:22,880 gathering data, and really launching into our public engagement in 2021. The city committed 2127 03:53:22,880 --> 03:53:29,780 to fronting all of those initial costs. And, of course, I'll talk about this here in a moment, 2128 03:53:29,960 --> 03:53:36,160 but our hope is to recover all the costs related to the specific plan update eventually. 2129 03:53:36,980 --> 03:53:42,920 But the second part of the specific plan update, the environmental analysis phase, 2130 03:53:43,440 --> 03:53:49,160 is really where we wanted to concentrate on the developer reimbursement equation this evening, 2131 03:53:49,160 --> 03:53:56,700 because there has been some concerns from some of the developers about how it's broken up. 2132 03:53:57,640 --> 03:54:03,520 But just again, to summarize here, that second phase is really focused around the development 2133 03:54:03,520 --> 03:54:12,060 of an environmental impact report, which would serve the specific plan update specifically. 2134 03:54:12,060 --> 03:54:22,840 And then the developers that have specific development project applications in could stem off of that EIR. 2135 03:54:23,800 --> 03:54:31,880 So essentially that's why we propose having the three developers evenly split the cost. 2136 03:54:32,360 --> 03:54:38,820 And then because the square footage of the specific plan update is yet to be determined, 2137 03:54:38,820 --> 03:54:46,680 that they would just evenly split that cost, as they all will evenly benefit from the EIR, 2138 03:54:47,300 --> 03:54:48,940 from the specific plan update. 2139 03:54:49,920 --> 03:54:50,780 Next slide. 2140 03:54:53,790 --> 03:55:00,530 And so, the initial Raymian Associates contract was set up according to those two phases, 2141 03:55:01,210 --> 03:55:06,530 the initial analysis, the community engagement and the data, and then the environmental 2142 03:55:06,530 --> 03:55:07,050 review. 2143 03:55:07,050 --> 03:55:15,690 We show here the responsible parties, so the city is fronting the initial cost, the 490,000. 2144 03:55:16,960 --> 03:55:27,510 And there was a addition to the city's portion on January 18th, 2022, just a couple months ago. 2145 03:55:27,510 --> 03:55:36,150 So City Council did approve an amendment to the Ramian Associates contract, so that 490,000 2146 03:55:36,150 --> 03:55:40,330 has been increased with an addition of about 500,000. 2147 03:55:40,530 --> 03:55:46,390 So we're close to the city being in at a fronted cost of about a million dollars. 2148 03:55:47,410 --> 03:55:53,770 And then the environmental review was divided up evenly, one-third, one-third, one-third 2149 03:55:53,770 --> 03:55:59,910 among three developers, the Emerson Collective, Harvest Properties and Sandhill. 2150 03:56:00,590 --> 03:56:05,450 So the way we've set this up as one-third each is really because the square footage 2151 03:56:05,450 --> 03:56:08,850 of their development applications are speculative. 2152 03:56:09,430 --> 03:56:15,650 They could change from now until the specific plan is updated and even after the specific 2153 03:56:15,650 --> 03:56:16,750 plan is approved. 2154 03:56:17,310 --> 03:56:23,510 So with the developers that are indicating their square footage on their development application 2155 03:56:23,510 --> 03:56:30,550 Now, it does not necessarily mean those are the project sizes that will be approved, as 2156 03:56:30,550 --> 03:56:36,250 well as the overall square footage increase of the specific plan update. 2157 03:56:37,110 --> 03:56:37,970 Next slide. 2158 03:56:40,410 --> 03:56:46,850 And so the city's initial reimbursement for that million dollars that I was referring 2159 03:56:46,850 --> 03:56:54,610 to earlier, the 490 plus the 500,000 amendment, this would be a reimbursement process that 2160 03:56:54,610 --> 03:57:00,210 would come in later. So we've already taken care of the environmental phase split up into 2161 03:57:00,210 --> 03:57:06,910 one-third each. When the specific plan is finally approved, we want to go back and try 2162 03:57:06,910 --> 03:57:15,030 to recoup some of that city's initial investment. So using this just as some round number sake 2163 03:57:15,030 --> 03:57:21,790 to show on an illustrative example, this was the same illustrative example that we showed 2164 03:57:21,790 --> 03:57:28,830 back in September 15, 2020. So, just for consistency, we are showing it here again. 2165 03:57:29,650 --> 03:57:36,170 But essentially, if additional capacity of the specific plan was added at 1.5 million square feet, 2166 03:57:36,790 --> 03:57:43,710 we take the size of a potential project and we essentially figure out what is that pro rata, 2167 03:57:44,050 --> 03:57:51,230 that portion that that development is benefiting from. We then, of course, take into account 2168 03:57:51,790 --> 03:57:59,850 There would be an administrative fee applied, and so overall that project obligation would 2169 03:57:59,850 --> 03:58:05,750 actually come out to about 124,000, which isn't the total coverage. 2170 03:58:05,970 --> 03:58:09,990 It would be including the other developers that also get approved. 2171 03:58:10,510 --> 03:58:15,150 So there could be more developers that come to the table during this time while the 2172 03:58:15,150 --> 03:58:18,370 specific plan update is getting looked at. 2173 03:58:18,370 --> 03:58:25,890 And so we also want to make sure that the three developers understand that with the approval of 2174 03:58:25,890 --> 03:58:31,210 the specific plan update, they are not guaranteed that their projects are going to be entitled with 2175 03:58:31,210 --> 03:58:37,210 it. They are going to need to go through their design review process and entitlement process 2176 03:58:37,210 --> 03:58:43,950 separately. And again, like I mentioned, can stem off of the specific plan EIR process to their 2177 03:58:43,950 --> 03:58:52,370 benefit. So that's why their initial investment of one-third each we think is a fair split. 2178 03:58:53,170 --> 03:59:00,090 And so the intent of the entire repayment process of both phases of the specific plan update 2179 03:59:00,090 --> 03:59:06,590 is really so that the city can recover all these costs. The city wouldn't be initiating this 2180 03:59:06,590 --> 03:59:12,710 unless there was development interest in the RBD area and thus we think it's really important 2181 03:59:12,710 --> 03:59:19,070 that the developers have some skin in the game with their initial one-third investment among the 2182 03:59:19,070 --> 03:59:26,030 three large developers. And then going back to the first days, the initial city investment 2183 03:59:26,860 --> 03:59:35,170 with this example equation on the screen would pay the city back on a pro-rata basis according 2184 03:59:35,170 --> 03:59:38,070 to their square footage. Next slide. 2185 03:59:40,650 --> 03:59:43,310 And so the recommendation is just to affirm previous 2186 03:59:43,310 --> 03:59:50,750 council direction of that equal share one-third among the three large developers in the RBD area. 2187 03:59:51,690 --> 03:59:59,770 And then to direct staff to only process projects or keep working with developers that have their 2188 03:59:59,770 --> 03:59:59,970 ... 2189 04:00:01,860 --> 04:00:23,180 We have one developer that is not in full payment of their installment that is due. We have stopped processing that project until further notice. We would like to make sure that council is supportive of that direction. I will break here for any questions. 2190 04:00:26,940 --> 04:00:35,560 So, any questions from council members on any of those specific points, and then we can go to the public? 2191 04:00:42,250 --> 04:00:57,020 Through the chair, Amy Mayoli question is, what is driving the real need to reaffirm that this is the right direction? 2192 04:00:57,020 --> 04:01:07,480 Is there an underlying concern that we're missing that we need to know? I would just 2193 04:01:07,480 --> 04:01:15,800 love that clarity. Yes, of course. There is one developer that hasn't paid. We had two 2194 04:01:15,800 --> 04:01:20,280 installments that we've requested so far. One last fall, when we were at the height of all 2195 04:01:20,280 --> 04:01:26,000 of our study sessions, and one most recently to kick off the next phase of the Raymond 2196 04:01:27,100 --> 04:01:34,420 One developer has not paid that second installment, the other two have, and the one developer that 2197 04:01:34,420 --> 04:01:40,340 hasn't paid the installment feels that the one third share is not fair according to the size 2198 04:01:40,340 --> 04:01:49,460 and type of their project. So it's really a matter of going back to the original council 2199 04:01:49,460 --> 04:01:55,640 direction. Staff does recognise that our developer reimbursement agreements, especially at the 2200 04:01:55,640 --> 04:02:00,780 template that we worked off of may have not made that clear so we thought that we would take 2201 04:02:00,780 --> 04:02:06,120 this opportunity not only to clarify that in the public record but then can take that 2202 04:02:06,120 --> 04:02:12,700 back if we need to amend or clarify anything with the contract process as well. 2203 04:02:26,820 --> 04:02:27,380 Evoy 2204 04:02:27,380 --> 04:02:33,720 n mé'r pryddiwydau, rydyn ni'n rydyn ni'n adåaio i ddweud yn sgwlad gan trefn o bobl o'r sgwlad. 2205 04:02:35,100 --> 04:02:44,440 Maen nhw'n cwestiynau ychydig lawer o'r pryddiwydau gwyliaith o'r ystafell a'r pryddiwydau, 2206 04:02:44,440 --> 04:02:48,940 ac mae'n gweithio i'r pryddiwydau. Mae'n credu bod yma datblyg ac mae'n cydnabb ychydig ar gyfer. 2207 04:02:49,600 --> 04:02:55,920 Mae'n cydnabb ychydig yn hallod i mi ar yw gwylio adlechio'n llyfodol fel ddymogolau. 2208 04:02:55,920 --> 04:03:04,120 would propose eventually or something. Is that right because the rationale to then say, well, then everybody 2209 04:03:04,120 --> 04:03:10,880 sin there, so everybody pays the same. Right. The three development applications that we have, 2210 04:03:11,640 --> 04:03:16,740 you know, that not only did they vary in type, but the developers are still designing their 2211 04:03:16,740 --> 04:03:23,440 projects, considering mixed use, considering housing. And so the overall way that the 2212 04:03:23,440 --> 04:03:29,120 fwyfydd o'r trof yn mryddoedd, yn ni'n dweud bod y byddai yn dynomionadau ni'n dynomionadau, 2213 04:03:29,340 --> 04:03:34,100 yn dynomionadau yn oeddysgol o'r trof yn dynomionadau pan dippoedd ar hyn o adolyth Cymru. 2214 04:03:34,400 --> 04:03:44,460 Ond dylaiwn ni'n rai meddwl ifyffyr i'n sgwraeth, felly mae'r adroddau ystafell yn ddwell â'r 2215 04:03:44,460 --> 04:03:53,420 cyfeirialeb hyn, maen nhw'n tref ygwrth yw mwylo ar y botl yn cyfredigad o'r trof yn ddweud o'r 2216 04:03:53,420 --> 04:04:00,580 O'r cyfnod, ddodd yn ddweud. A'n gyfnod i'r cyfnod, ddweud y cyfnod yn ddiddordeb yn gwneud i'r gyfnod, 2217 04:04:00,920 --> 04:04:08,520 a ddiddordeb yn ddiddordeb. James, ddiddor y ddweud o'r cyfnod o'r cyfnod ar yr iddyn nhw? 2218 04:04:09,100 --> 04:04:13,040 Mae'n ddiddor, ddiddor, ddiddor, Gail Wilkerson a Adrian Byrn. 2219 04:04:15,460 --> 04:04:24,740 Yn gyfnod i'r cyfnod, ddiddor i'r cyfnod yma, ddiddor i'r cyfnod, ddiddor i'r cyfnod, 2220 04:04:31,060 --> 04:04:41,640 Does one entrepreneur he doesn't want to pay because now he's saying it's not fair that he just pays one-third. 2221 04:04:42,340 --> 04:04:45,600 Now, that doesn't make any sense. 2222 04:04:46,700 --> 04:04:54,720 The only thing I can do is reach back in my training and say, his, he's, he's not going to pay a full price, 2223 04:04:56,680 --> 04:04:59,340 That's all I have to say for you.OR 2224 04:05:05,830 --> 04:05:07,010 Thank you next speaker. Adrian? 2225 04:05:10,000 --> 04:05:14,640 Ydyn ni, un gweithio y bwynt eisiau llawer i siŵr y byddwch e � graduates Address Publicly. 2226 04:05:14,660 --> 04:05:16,060 Ydyn ni, un gweithio y bwyr o gwirio y lyw ymlaen. 2227 04:05:18,610 --> 04:05:21,500 Pen ddigwydd hynny. 2228 04:05:28,850 --> 04:05:38,450 Professor Peann teaches from the 2229 04:05:38,450 --> 04:05:38,490 future. 2230 04:05:38,490 --> 04:05:46,270 councillor. I'm not sure if people received it, but it does indicate that it's intended to be public 2231 04:05:46,270 --> 04:05:53,110 comments, so I think you need to at least mention that and acknowledge receipt of the document. 2232 04:05:57,220 --> 04:06:00,260 Mr Bricka, believe your... 2233 04:06:00,920 --> 04:06:05,840 All right. When I'm asking for public comment, thank you for adding that, 2234 04:06:05,840 --> 04:06:09,260 Rwy'n credu ddod yr unrhyw i. 2235 04:06:09,980 --> 04:06:16,440 Rydyn ni'n mynd i'n mynd i'n cydweddor i James. 2236 04:06:20,620 --> 04:06:35,820 Yn hyfrifio'r cyffredin, y cyfleu cyfleu, y Cymru, yr ydych chi'n yrhyw hwn, y cyfleu cyffredin, 2237 04:07:05,820 --> 04:07:26,660 If there is a comment and it came in the form of an email, then I just want to make sure that we make that comment. I mean, I'm not being legalistic. I'm just saying the same as somebody doing it right now. Obviously, they're not in the audience to make that comment, but they send it and writing. 2238 04:07:28,600 --> 04:07:30,620 More than a number by residents? 2239 04:07:32,160 --> 04:07:33,540 On just that's what I was going to value. 2240 04:07:34,120 --> 04:07:40,500 If it's okay to just include it as a reference that we did receive that comment, 2241 04:07:40,760 --> 04:07:43,540 I just don't want to— 2242 04:07:43,540 --> 04:07:43,800 It 2243 04:07:49,880 --> 04:07:52,740 wasn't clear to me if council members 2244 04:07:52,740 --> 04:07:55,260 had all seen the comment. 2245 04:07:55,620 --> 04:07:56,820 I have not seen it. 2246 04:07:56,920 --> 04:08:01,140 I've just been super busy the last few hours before the mid. 2247 04:08:01,220 --> 04:08:02,180 So, I did not see it. 2248 04:08:02,180 --> 04:08:03,760 I didn't know. 2249 04:08:04,580 --> 04:08:05,560 Thanks for telling me. 2250 04:08:05,640 --> 04:08:10,120 That's why I'm asking that either it be read into the record or at least by reference, 2251 04:08:11,120 --> 04:08:14,580 then say that there was an additional comment submitted. 2252 04:08:20,240 --> 04:08:22,820 If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have known. 2253 04:08:23,000 --> 04:08:25,160 I'm just being careful with the publication. 2254 04:08:25,180 --> 04:08:27,080 No, I understand that. 2255 04:08:27,420 --> 04:08:31,720 But I think the council needs to consider the comment. 2256 04:08:32,820 --> 04:08:35,500 If you haven't had a chance to read it, 2257 04:08:36,540 --> 04:08:42,120 You haven't had a chance to consider it, then, yes, someone should at least read the comments. 2258 04:08:42,480 --> 04:08:44,420 Because you need to know what was said. 2259 04:08:44,740 --> 04:08:49,080 Exactly. That's what I'm asking. Either you or James or somebody could do as a favour. 2260 04:08:50,280 --> 04:08:50,980 I can read it. 2261 04:08:51,420 --> 04:08:55,260 I want to hear it. So either way, James, do you want to go ahead and read it? 2262 04:08:56,080 --> 04:08:57,440 Yeah, yeah. I can read it. 2263 04:08:57,460 --> 04:09:01,220 Thank you. That way, that will know what the comment is. Thank you. 2264 04:09:01,220 --> 04:09:08,620 Ychydig i celfiadwyr Ymgei, waith i'r cofnidol yourtyfyrwyr yn cael rhoi gyda Llywodraeth i Gymru? 2265 04:09:08,760 --> 04:09:27,340 Mae'n dweud iaeth cyfleidwyr ac yn Gweinidol fel dweud sydd yn cyfledog sydd yn cyfledog cyfryddeidol sydd yn cyfledog cyfryddaeth ymgylchedd Cymru i gyd-aeth droswng llai sgadolol yma, 2266 04:09:27,340 --> 04:09:31,900 We appreciate council's input and direction on this matter. 2267 04:09:32,500 --> 04:09:42,420 It is not accurate to say that the City Council has clearly directed that three developers pay equal one-third shares for the environmental review process. 2268 04:09:43,140 --> 04:09:51,980 We have reviewed and re-reviewed council's past analyses and discussions and have also discussed the issue at length with staff. 2269 04:09:51,980 --> 04:10:07,700 staff have confirmed that we would pay our proportionate share and we have a signed agreement with you confirming the city's commitment that each developer paid a proportionate fair share C attached. 2270 04:10:08,720 --> 04:10:14,780 If you now decide to require an equal one-third share, we will follow that direction. 2271 04:10:14,780 --> 04:10:21,600 ond y ceisio bynnag에is ei ffordd mewn gweld yn gwaith o'r ffordd ar gwellyddur infol i'w partyn... 2272 04:10:21,600 --> 04:10:22,600 ...lawn i'r Ysgrifennu RbD. 2273 04:10:23,980 --> 04:10:30,900 Felly mae'r ysgrifennu'r ffordd neu'r wneud y ffordd yn cael ei gwas i'r ffordd byw.. 2274 04:10:30,900 --> 04:10:34,460 ...ol atb innocenti gyda'r Ysgrifennu. 2275 04:10:34,820 --> 04:10:37,760 Rwy'n rhoi'n rhoi'n rhaid i'r proses ffyrlus cyfion... 2276 04:10:37,760 --> 04:10:43,380 ...es y yng nghyffordd yma yn y rhai'r ffordd yn rhaid i'r perffordd mewn... 2277 04:10:43,380 --> 04:10:52,060 Yn y gall That is a part ifadau hyn sy'n cymiannol iddyntio i'r perio os y�orotio'r gyrfaenydd,究odd 2278 04:10:52,060 --> 04:10:56,880 hynny'n amlataeth ymarfer â 13% felly mae'r pieroedd plenerau yma. Yn g 2279 04:10:56,880 --> 04:11:00,600 светiaf, mae'r pethau a chynghwys i ddweud cymaenydd wedi amdant. Mae'n 2280 04:11:00,600 --> 04:11:04,220 gwaith i'r ddweud amgofio cyfryddiant, ac mae'n credu chynghwynt yma ar gweithio ddweud 2281 04:11:04,220 --> 04:11:09,520 cyfrifoedd cyflosadau a gwrs, wrth gwrs, yn yr ysgol yng Nghaerr. 2282 04:11:09,520 --> 04:11:11,480 Thank you for your consideration, Corey. 2283 04:11:12,240 --> 04:11:19,360 Okay. Well, thank you for reading that. All right. So, there were no more public comments 2284 04:11:19,360 --> 04:11:23,200 and back to the council for any questions. Otherwise, 2285 04:11:26,580 --> 04:11:35,340 you're just asking us to affirm previous direction. Would we need a motion on this 2286 04:11:37,220 --> 04:11:40,520 o ran hwn o'r syniadau o'r ddweud o'r drosiwn yn ddenigol? 2287 04:11:40,520 --> 04:11:43,050 Mae angen i gael aglais cyfnodd maen nhw'n dod aglawn. 2288 04:11:45,760 --> 04:11:51,660 Mae'n cyfrifetaghwad o'r etymol yn y ddweud amser. 2289 04:11:51,660 --> 04:11:54,400 Mae'n gweithio, onid, ond ydych yn ddweud y cael yr ymgynghwyng iawn. 2290 04:11:54,400 --> 04:11:57,660 Mae'n ddweud i'r gael y cyfrifethaf sy'n gyffredinol sy'n cael yr wych ar deilio dan 2291 04:11:57,660 --> 04:12:03,210 mae'n symud i'r cyfrifethaf a'i gael iawn i'r rhai ar gyfer Ierbaid. 2292 04:12:03,210 --> 04:12:12,390 ond y cyfnodd o'r cyfnod, a wefnodd y cyfnodd yn credu i'n mynd i'r cyfnodd i'r cwpacio unrhywf sydd wedi'i'n cyrfu'r yr Arvedigon. 2293 04:12:12,390 --> 04:12:21,870 A dame, ydych chi'n cyfnodd o'r cyfnodd i'r cyflwyg a'r projegu, y gallwn gweld yn ymgyrchafol, 2294 04:12:21,870 --> 04:12:32,530 Because they not only require planning commission city council approval on entitlements, they also require a change to a long range planning document. 2295 04:12:33,170 --> 04:12:43,130 And the speculative nature of that, and I agree with Amy, just doesn't make sense in this case to do a pro-Rata share. 2296 04:12:44,710 --> 04:13:03,250 I understand that, yes, this particular project, the biotech project has 13% of the total project proposed, but they may wind up with only 6%, because we may chop the thing down the 200,000 square feet. 2297 04:13:03,670 --> 04:13:04,130 Then what? 2298 04:13:04,750 --> 04:13:06,230 Then are they going to ask for their money back? 2299 04:13:06,510 --> 04:13:06,890 It's ridiculous. 2300 04:13:08,490 --> 04:13:17,950 Rwy'n cy ferf stove ni think that the approach that the city is taking or that staff is taking is the most logical one given the fact that we have these convergence of two processes. 2301 04:13:18,450 --> 04:13:24,850 One that entitlement process that really is quasi entitlement because they don't have the ability to actually do it. 2302 04:13:25,190 --> 04:13:33,250 Cos we haven't created a specific plan large enough and specific plan process is kind of running co challenge. 2303 04:13:34,230 --> 04:13:44,270 I think it makes a lot of sense to reaffirm this approach that staff has made, and if the developer doesn't want to play, the developer can just leave. 2304 04:13:47,030 --> 04:14:04,930 I would affirm the direction in a motion that the three developers seeking an amendment to the RBD specific plan, pay an equal share of one third of the associated costs related to the environmental review process, in addition to a pro-wrestling. 2305 04:14:48,670 --> 04:14:56,530 The last item is the COVID-19, a regular COVID-19 vaccination update. 2306 04:14:56,950 --> 04:14:57,490 ddechrau'r ddechrau'r ddechrau. 2307 04:15:00,300 --> 04:15:03,580 Thank you. James, would you mind popping it up? 2308 04:15:22,210 --> 04:15:25,150 Sorry, my computer's being... 2309 04:15:25,810 --> 04:15:26,630 No problem. 2310 04:15:26,930 --> 04:15:27,350 Being slow. 2311 04:15:40,160 --> 04:15:43,640 I can start, don't worry about it. James, you keep trying. 2312 04:15:44,420 --> 04:15:44,960 Yeah. 2313 04:15:45,820 --> 04:15:55,700 Yeah, so in the packet and on our agenda as well, we have the same structure we talked about the previous week and then what's upcoming. So last week was a pretty successful week. 2314 04:15:56,460 --> 04:16:14,220 You know, we had 43 individual doses given out at the county clinics and on the west side combination, and then another 46 at the Ravenswood Health Clinic, so a total of what is that, 89 single doses, which is good. 2315 04:16:14,580 --> 04:16:18,240 You know, I'm still seeing larger numbers than many of our neighboring cities. 2316 04:16:19,460 --> 04:16:25,120 As far as what's available this week, we're still on the same through April 30th. 2317 04:16:25,340 --> 04:16:32,040 I have pretty much a set schedule now, which is Tuesday, Thursday at the YMCA, and then 2318 04:16:32,040 --> 04:16:36,700 Saturday, the Westside Clinic, and then Saturday as well at the Ravenswood Family Health Clinic, 2319 04:16:36,800 --> 04:16:40,460 and we'll say Westside, I mean, at the 45 Newell Road at the Woodland Park Apartments. 2320 04:16:41,520 --> 04:16:46,820 That schedule is, like I said, it's going to be locked in there through April 30th, 2321 04:16:46,820 --> 04:16:52,200 with the exception of the Saturday before Easter, the Ravenswood Family Health Clinic will not 2322 04:16:52,200 --> 04:16:53,720 be having a clinic. 2323 04:16:55,620 --> 04:16:59,900 Once we get into May, the schedule will likely change again, but we'll keep folks updated 2324 04:16:59,900 --> 04:17:01,700 on that at the next meeting. 2325 04:17:02,740 --> 04:17:05,220 As far as testing, oh, there you are, Jim, thanks. 2326 04:17:05,420 --> 04:17:06,780 Do you mind shifting down to testing? 2327 04:17:07,800 --> 04:17:09,860 As far as testing, same schedule. 2328 04:17:10,520 --> 04:17:14,200 We are going to be doing an internal review to kind of see, you know, what are the 2329 04:17:14,200 --> 04:17:21,760 numbers of tests being given out? Do we still need to be providing as robust testing opportunities? 2330 04:17:22,340 --> 04:17:25,960 Maybe we do, so we're not saying now that we're ready to start cancelling any of those, 2331 04:17:26,060 --> 04:17:29,980 but we just definitely want to see what the numbers are at. Tests are readily available 2332 04:17:29,980 --> 04:17:34,220 at stores and whatnot now, and the school district is still providing a lot of tests 2333 04:17:34,220 --> 04:17:39,660 to their kiddos, which is great. So, again, just trying to see how to deploy our assets. 2334 04:17:40,280 --> 04:17:46,000 I did want to give folks heads up that at the next council meeting, we will have the 2335 04:17:46,000 --> 04:17:50,060 city manager's budget message and in that budget message, we will start to try to lay 2336 04:17:50,060 --> 04:17:54,600 out what we think the city's role in the COVID response will be next fiscal year. 2337 04:17:55,400 --> 04:17:58,540 So we're talking about the county and other partners to see what's going to be going. 2338 04:17:58,680 --> 04:18:03,560 A lot of folks are anticipating that by the end of June, most jurisdictions will 2339 04:18:03,560 --> 04:18:07,820 probably be out of the, you know, the direct COVID support. 2340 04:18:07,820 --> 04:18:10,720 We'll have to see how that, but we're going to start, we'll start looking at that from 2341 04:18:10,720 --> 04:18:11,540 a budget perspective. 2342 04:18:11,640 --> 04:18:15,100 So I just want to give the council a heads up about that. 2343 04:18:16,660 --> 04:18:19,960 I'm trying to see, I think that's it. 2344 04:18:20,080 --> 04:18:24,300 I don't really have anything else to, anyway, other than that, I'll turn it back over 2345 04:18:24,300 --> 04:18:24,960 to the mayor. 2346 04:18:25,580 --> 04:18:25,740 Thank you. 2347 04:18:26,000 --> 04:18:33,640 Yeah, any questions, comments, or any additional information anybody has when I share? 2348 04:18:35,640 --> 04:18:51,690 if not and okay going good keep chugging along okay well that concludes the first part is the 2349 04:18:51,690 --> 04:18:58,970 biggest part and now we can have council reports or announcements if anybody wants to jump in feel 2350 04:18:58,970 --> 04:19:08,550 free to report anything despite the chair I just wanted to wish all the Christians in attendance 2351 04:19:08,550 --> 04:19:14,330 and then the community happy coming upcoming Easter and as well to the Muslims and happy Ramadan and 2352 04:19:14,330 --> 04:19:19,590 hopefully maybe the council can consider proclamation at the next meeting and we have a small but 2353 04:19:19,590 --> 04:19:23,210 but emerging Muslim community in the in the city and so I want to definitely 2354 04:19:23,210 --> 04:19:28,270 see if we can really honor that and to everyone who's not you know celebrating hopefully it's 2355 04:19:28,270 --> 04:19:32,410 time of reflection and meditation and fellowship. So that's it. Thank you, Mayor. 2356 04:19:33,270 --> 04:19:37,790 Thank you. Anybody else? Any reports or announcements? 2357 04:19:39,730 --> 04:19:45,630 I have a brief on just saying that I haven't settled on a specific day, but I'm looking at 2358 04:19:46,550 --> 04:19:53,970 end of April or first week in May to do a mayoral report to the city. So I'll be 2359 04:19:56,390 --> 04:20:00,710 asking staff for a little bit of work, not too much, primarily just to set that up and 2360 04:20:00,710 --> 04:20:01,610 then I'll do the rest. 2361 04:20:03,730 --> 04:20:11,110 And I think we'll stand adjourned at this point, so everybody have a good evening and 2362 04:20:11,110 --> 04:20:12,110 we'll catch up. 2363 04:20:13,050 --> 04:20:13,550 Thank you. 2364 04:20:13,550 --> 04:20:14,350 Thank you.