>> [GAVEL]
>> I call to order the City
Council meeting of March 17,
2025. Roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Please stand for the Pledge
of Allegiance.
>>I pledge allegiance to the
Flag of the United States of
America and to the Republic for
which it stands, one Nation
under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
>> Please remain standing
for a moment of silence. Item
two, Approval or changes or
modifications to the agenda,
seeing none at this time. Item
3, Approval of the minutes.
Seeing none at this time. Item
4, presentation, proclamations,
plaque certificates,
or any donations. Seeing none
at this time. Item 5,
Citizens Comments. This is a
time for the public
to come forward
with any concern,
concerns and comments they may
have. Please make your comment.
If it is related
to an agenda matter. The time
that that matter is
before the council. Please
limit your comments
to three minutes or less.
Please state your name and
address.
>> Yes, I'm first and I'm
short. Can you hear me? Okay.
My name's Beverly Palmer, and
I'm here to represent
Edgewater Union Church. If you
don't know, it happens
to be the oldest church in
Edgewater. It's built next
to the cemetery on Route 1.
And I'm here to invite the
council and anyone who would
love to come. We're having a
birthday cookout on April 12,
the anniversary
of our church starting 113
years ago. So that's all. I've
already put in
for a proclamation, hoping that
the bear can come and anyone
who would love to come.
Anyone. So, it's going
to be advertised more,
but I'm here
to hand you invitations.
>> Well, thank you so much. If
you could please hand us the
invitations, but also please
send the information
to the city clerk to put it
on our calendars as well,
please. Thank you.
>> If she would just give me
the invites, I'll make sure you
all get them. If you just give
me the invites, I'll make sure
that they get them.
>> Thank you so much. Thank you
for all you do. It really is a
lovely church and a lovely
organization.
>> I'll be there.
>> Thank you very much.
>> You're welcome.
>> I'm not sure how I can
compete with that. Thank you.
So my name is Dan Knight. 2290
Elegant Manor. Circle
Reference, Ordinance 2025 O06.
Specifically that ordinance you
guys are.
>> If that is on the agenda,
could you please write
before the matter is
before the council?
>> Yeah, that's okay. No,
Problem. We just request that
you comment if the matter is
coming before the council. If
it's on the agenda,
so do it then
during the public hearing.
Thank you.
>> Edgewater. Chuck Martin,
205 Cherry Wood Lane,
Edgewater. Proud
to announce that I've applied
for the city manager position
in the city of Edgewater. I
feel that my 42 going on 43
years of experience
in public works, solid waste,
hazardous waste operations,
fighting brush fires
with the county and just being
in the construction field and
managing, you know,
jobs and positions and stuff
like that, being around here
forever qualifies me. So I met
the qualifications to apply, I
applied,
it was accepted and it's
under review. And I feel
like if it gets
to where it needs to go that I
would hope that I would have
the votes on the council
to move forward
with this position. Then I
would be working for you guys
and I think that would be
great. Did have one other
comment because I've had a lot
of people talking to me about
it and I thought I would ask
maybe we could get some
clarification
from if the mayor would ask
Mr. Wolf, give some
clarification on the use
of city vehicles
on personal time. I think, you
know, some of it's loud
like you know, on Mr.
Thurman, you know, he drives
out vehicle but that's. He's
allowed to do that,
so I'm sure he's able
to do that. But as far as
cities employees using city
vehicles for personal use
on personal time, I kind
of wonder how that would work
with our insurance and is that
allowed? Maybe our HR director
can answer that. I just kind
of want some clarification
on that.
>> Thank you, sir,
for your comments. We'll make
sure to get that answered
for you.
>> Well, is that something that
maybe they could answer now or
typically this is.
>> Your time to address the
council and typically you can
talk to the directors and
City Manager and council.
>> Of course,
after the meeting.
>> Could maybe somebody send me
an email
with that that can also.
Okay, I'd like
to have an email.
>> And they've got my emails.
Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir,
for your comments. It's
appreciated.
>> Jim Lovegren, 182 Jones
Fish Camp Road. First I want
to start off, I want to thank
Ron, Ryan Solstice and the
staff for holding the community
workshops that they've been
holding
for the last two months. Been
very informative and I think
very thoughtful and considerate
for the community
to learn something
about zoning and so forth.
It's been excellent. So my.
Thanks. Ryan. I want to bring
up an issue here that many
of the homeowners in
Riverfront Estates are now
experiencing, and that is
shoddy construction. We're
watching as houses, and they're
just finishing up the last
couple here, but they're
pouring concrete slabs and they
are putting up brick walls
three or four days
after the slab is poured, which
is not giving the concrete
enough time to cure.
Consequently, within months,
we're seeing cracks
in our walls. I have
at least eight in mind, and
at least three
of them are step cracks,
which are generally a sign of
foundation shifting. I don't
know whether they're
compressing the dirt
before they do anything either.
You know, I mean, what's going
on here? But there's certainly
shoddy construction, and I
don't know how a building
inspector could let this go by.
We've seen no curing
of the concrete with water
over the next couple of days
of pouring it. One of my
neighbors told me that they ran
into the person that was or one
of the people that was pouring
the concrete and that they're
watering the concrete
down so that it's easier
to spread. That weakens the
concrete and requires a longer
curing time. So we got a really
serious situation here where
our houses are not what they
were supposed to be because
of shoddy construction. So I
don't know, really. It needs
to be looked into. It's just
not a good thing. It's not a
good thing.
>> Thank you, sir, for. Do you
have anything else?
>> Yes I also
want to bring in to the issue
the gopher tortoise situation
on River Oaks,
on that property lot there,
I ran into two months ago.
And Charlotte, you were
over there with your husband.
You. We counted 50 boroughs,
right? There was an
environmental consultant there
within a month after that,
and she counted 80 burrows.
Now, she told me,
because I went and talked to
her and she told me there that
there was a previous inspection
done here
within the last two years,
and they counted seven. How do
you miss that many gopher
tortoises? You don't. Unless
there is a financial incentive,
obviously, to miss those
turtles because it costs a lot
of money to remove them and
relocate them. So you add that
into the Riverfront Estates
lot, which I am told
by a long time resident there,
that that place had just as
many tortoise tortoises
in it. They relocated
eight or nine.
>> Thank you, sir,
for your comments. It's truly
appreciated.
>> Could you please fill A
contact card out in the back.
Would love
to get your phone number.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. Item six,
council reports. Councilwoman
Dolbow, I have nothing
at this time. Councilwoman
Gillis, I have nothing at this
time. I also have nothing
at this time. Item seven,
consent agenda. Is there a
motion to approve the consent
agenda? I would like
to pull an item
for discussion. Which item is
that to pull? Item 7B.
>> Okay. I'd also like to pull
7A and just so it could be
explained. It's a great.
It's. It's a great. It's a
great thing that we're doing.
And I just want to get on the
record so that the residents
know what the city is doing as
far as the lining.
>> Great. Is there a motion to
approve the consent agenda
minus item 7A and 7B?
>> Make a motion to approve the
consent agenda minus A and B.
>> Second
>> Roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Item 7A, CD BG sewer lining
project engineering staff,
could you give us an update
on that, please?
>> Dan, would you address that,
please?
>> This, the sewer lining is a
CDBG grant that we're moving
forward with. We have Jeffrey
Winters here tonight to talk
on that a little bit. We'll be
doing approximately,
I think. I think it's 78
manholes and lining sewers
from the booster station or
Park Avenue booster station
south
about four blocks towards the.
Towards one. They'll be coming
in. This is a $50,000 match
on a grant that is roughly
$750,000. So it's a low income
area. It's an area that we see
a lot of infiltration,
influx and infiltration,
or ini. It's really going
to help out the water plant as
well as all of the citizens
in that area.
>> Great. Thank you. Any
comments? Is there a motion
to approve item 7A
of the consent agenda?
>> Make a motion to approve 7A
of the agenda, the CDBG sewer
lining project and engineering.
>> Second
>> Roll call. Mayor DePew, this
is a tremendous thing. I'm glad
we're moving forward with this.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Okay. Item 7B, purchase
of meters,
pipe fittings and other for the
water and wastewater operations
and management staff report.
>> Dan, would you also address
this?
>> This is just our standard
items that we use throughout
the year. It's a blanket
purchase or. Yeah, blanket
purchase order with two
of the contractors. Things that
you would see in our inventory
throughout and used throughout
the year.
>> Great. Council comments.
>> I guess my concern is I
brought it up a couple times
that there's been residents'
concerns
about the meters themselves.
So, I and I've brought up
having those looked into in the
future and you said we would
talk about that later. I guess
my concern is just green
lighting, purchasing more
of them. If I'm concerned that
there is an issue with some
of them.
>> These aren't strictly
meters. It's also pipes,
saddles, different connections
for our water and wastewater
field operations and wastewater
collections groups.
>> I will say that I brought
this up, I believe at the last
council meeting. I have had
some residents concerns come
forward also as Ms. Gillis and
I'm sure Councilman Dolbow's
heard before about the meters.
I'm not saying that every meter
is bad or the brand that we're
using is faulty, but I would
like to just workshop our
utility bill like we discussed
at the last meeting
to move forward
with that as well. Just stating
that for the record that there
has been concerns brought
forward about the meters, but
this is involving others as
well.
>> I am going to recommend a
workshop tremendous. And any
specific address and citizen
customer. We will fully
investigate it and come down
to the what is the cause,
whether it be usage,
whether it be a leak
behind the meter. Those are the
only two options because of the
type meter that we're using.
It's a pass through, it's not a
mechanical. I don't want
to get into the gory details
but it's a pass through,
not a mechanical. So there's
not a mechanical something
to wear out. But we will if,
if we get an address and a
name, we will investigate every
single last concern.
>> Awesome. If you had a guess,
just an estimation. How many
meters is this approving
to purchase for the year?
>> This is just a blankets so
it could be fittings,
it could be meters,
anything that they need to
to do their job
in the field.
>> Gotcha. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> But the majority of this is
for everything else. And this
is not like green lighting a
very large amount of meters.
Correct?
>> Correct.
>> Okay. Is there a motion
to approve item 7B of the
Consent agenda?
>> Make a motion
to approve set agenda item B,
purchase of meters, pipes,
fittings and other aquatics for
water and wastewater operations
and maintenance.
>> I'll second it.
But I just,
I do want that addressed in at
a future time. I know business
needs to go forward as far as
everything else.
>> Please call the roll.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Item eight, Public hearing
Ordinances and resolutions.
Item eight, a Public notice
in household income
Verification survey. Florida
Small Cities Community
Development Block Grant CDBG
Program Staff report and
Presentation.
>> We're very excited
to maybe take advantage
of another opportunity
through the Florida Commerce
for a $750,000 grant from
Florida Small Cities
Community Development Block
Grant CDBG program. Looking to
do some additional sewer lining
and for areas of low income or
identified low income and
really looking forward
to participating,
potentially taking advantage
of this opportunity. And we do
have a presentation.
>> My name is Jeffrey Winter
with Cornerstone Community
Partners. It's an honor
to appear
before you all this evening.
Just to reiterate what we're
here today is
for the first public hearing
for a prospective application
to the FFY 2324 C CDBG program.
The first public hearing. The
purpose is to make the public
aware that the city is
interested in applying
to the program,
to briefly explain the types
of categories of funding
in which a city could apply,
and then to open the floor
for public comments
on prospective projects. To
briefly cover the four
categories
for this CDBG program, the
first category is commercial
revitalization. Typical
projects funded through the
commercial revitalization
category include facilities
facade improvements and
streetscape improvements to a
designated downtown district.
Second category would be the
economic development category.
This makes funding available
for communities to provide
infrastructure improvements
in support of a business to
either create or retain jobs.
Third category would be the
neighborhood revitalization.
That is the same category
of funding in which the sewer
lining re project is currently
funded. It covers
infrastructure improvements
throughout the city, with the
fourth category being the
housing rehabilitation category
where in that category funding
is made available
to rehabilitate, in some cases
demolish and reconstruct homes
for low to moderate income
persons throughout the
community. That being said,
I'd be happy
to turn the floor back over
to solicit public comment.
>> Thank you, sir. We
appreciate you open a public
hearing. Citizens Comments
Council comments I think it's
great.
>> $750,000 is the grant. Will
it be any kind of a match
for this cycle alone? They've
waived the $750,000 maximum.
There is no cap
on the funding. We've had city
staff propose some projects
that are being considered
around the tune of around 1.5
million in terms of matching.
It's not mandatory. However, we
do anticipate it will be a
competitive cycle. So we would
encourage the commitment of
$50,000 in leverage
to go towards this.
>> Project and we've identified
that. I'm sorry Dan, would you
update us on where they this
potential projects are
for this grant?
>> We're looking at some 2 inch
galvanized line replacement
on the northwest portion
of the city there. Our goal is
to eliminate all of the 2 inch
galvanized. That's a lot
of our rust, a lot
of our worst lines,
worst areas. On top
of that we're also looking
at eliminating some of the
original air relief valves
for the wastewater system.
Basically an ARV you have
to get rid of air. You have
pockets
of air which causes pressure,
which causes your pumps and.
And things not
to flow as easy. So you have
to bleed off the gases,
the air. And we have 13 ARVs
that are original to the system
that have the potential if
anything were to happen
to them it would take a lot of.
We'd have a lot of downtime and
emergency repairs. And so we're
looking
at identifying them and,
and any other ARVs. Also
looking
at some plant equipment,
possibly just looking around
to be to make sure we use the
CDBG funding as efficient as
possible.
>> Thank you, Dan.
>> The one thing
about this one though, it has
to be pretty much designed
already. We would go further
with a lot more galvanized
replacement.
But it's something you've got
to have engineering and bidding
or estimates done and ready.
So we can only do so much
in that area this time.
>> Thank you Dan.
>> Well, I want to thank staff
for seeing this opportunity and
pouncing on this so quickly.
Any kind of grant opportunities
and state appropriations that
we can find is always a
tremendous thing. I want
to thank our grant writer.
We're at over $30 million
of funding in grants alone. So
she's doing a tremendous job,
tremendous department. I'm glad
that the council has supported
that department or that part of
our city and getting a part
time clerkship will help us
with more funding. So this is a
tremendous opportunity
to bring back some funding
to the city
for separate areas, any kind
of watershed. This will help
tremendously. So appreciate
staff and all you have done
to pounce
on this opportunity. Any
further comments? Is there a
motion to approve?
>> Make a motion to approve
public notice and household
income verification survey
Florida Small Cities
Community Development Block
Grant.
>> Do we want to take public
comment?
>> There was not.
>> Second.
>> Okay, roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Okay. Item 8B,
second reading ordinance number
2025 dash O05, request
for approval for amendments,
Article 3, Article 6 and
Article 20 of the Land
Development Code. Please read
into the record OR in.
>> Summer 2025005 and
Ordinance of the City of
Edgewater, Florida, amending
Article 3, permitted
conditional accessory and
prohibited uses. Article 6
Sign Regulations, Article 20
Ridgewood Avenue Quarter
Design Regulations of Chapter
21, Land Development Code
providing
for conflicting provision,
severability and applicability
providing for an effective date
adoption and codification.
>> Thank you. Staff report.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This
is a second reading. There have
been no text amendments change
done
between the first and second.
Just to recap, this is changes
to Article 3, Article 6 and
Article 20 of the Land
Development Code to allow for
feather flags and the
freestanding banner sign per
business tax receipt in their
respective zoning districts.
Be happy
to answer any questions.
>> And let me just say, since
there's only three members
present tonight, the city
charter requires three votes to
pass an ordinance or
resolution. So your votes to
pass the ordinances and
resolutions
on the agenda only will need
to be unanimous tonight.
>> Thank you. Okay. Open a
public hearing. Citizens
Comments.
>> Council comments Ryan, I do
have a couple questions. Do we
have a restriction on how many
flags and banners if it passes,
can be for example
in a plaza, say there's 20
stores.
>> No. So you're allowed one
per business per each
of the types of these type
of temporary signs. They follow
the same regulations. You have
to bring it in when you're not
in hours operation. But no,
there's no beyond those hours
of operation. There's not a
spacing requirement or anything
of that nature.
>> Okay, that's, that's kind
of where I have the problem,
especially
with the banners. I went
down US one and just
for the bike week
on the right hand side in US
1, there was three banners kind
of just weirdly stuck in a,
in a, in a spot and,
and it didn't look very good.
Just
with poles. I'm thinking, oh,
gosh, I can't imagine, you
know, having multiple
businesses, especially
in a plaza, you know, having
the feather flags and then
having these,
these banners and going down
50, if you're going 55 or
whatever,
the speed limit might be 45.
You know,
how are the residents going
to be able to read all these
banners and all these specials
and see the feather flag that
might say coffee or donuts or
whatever? I don't know if it's
even going
to be a distraction. I'm just,
I'm so for the feather flags.
I'm not so much
for the banners. And I just
wanted to point that out. I
just think it's going
to be a cluster. If even half
of the businesses
in a strip mall decide
to take advantage of the
feather flag and the banner,
I think it's going to lose,
it's going to lose its power
because we're not, you know,
we're not going to be able to
read everything as we're going
down the road. So that's my,
that's my concern
with the banners.
>> We've talked
about this now three times,
gave updated,
gave a recommendation
at the council workshop. We've
had our first reading. I think
we've. So I'll talk about that
as concerns moving forward.
But I guess my comment
to that is, you know,
they clearly were not in code.
I think that not every business
is going to, just because
there's an ordinance
out there, choose to follow
that ordinance. I don't think
that everyone can. Is
necessarily going to do it all
at the same, same time. I,
I just don't think it's,
everyone's going to do it
at the same time. I, I think
that they should still have the
opportunity. Maybe I'll,
I'll counter with you. Or if
there's more than 15 units in,
in one plaza,
that they have the option
of one or the other. But I, I
don't, I don't, I don't think
that everybody is going
to utilize this ordinance.
>> And, and you might be right.
I'm just, I wanted
to put the what if? Because
once it's passed, it's going
to, it's going to, we'll need
another code enforcement person
just to enforce all the, all
the banners that are sideways.
And I don't know, I just, I
just, I just don't know that
having the banners and the
flags is what we need maybe.
And, or like you said, if
there's, if there's. Even so if
we have, you know, 20
businesses and even if 12
decide they want
to do the banners, I don't,
just don't know if people are
going to, if it's going
to do get the bang
for the buck. Because if people
aren't going to be able
to read, you know,
everything that might be
on a banner, a flag, it's fun,
you know,
it can say coffee or waffles
or, you know, whatever,
and people are going
to understand that. And you
could probably have, you know,
12 flags flying and it wouldn't
be as much of a distraction, I
think, as the big banners. And
when I saw the banners during
Bike Week, I thought
to myself, I said, oh gosh,
that's gonna look terrible if
we have half
of the people take advantage
of it. They were just two
by four stuck in the ground.
Nothing. It didn't look nice.
It wasn't appealing.
>> Well, we didn't have the
ordinance enacted.
>> Yes, they just did it.
But what is going to stop
someone once we pass this
ordinance if it passes for
Booth? Well, I'm just doing
that.
>> There's an ordinance
written. So that would,
that would have a code
to be enforced. Not just that
you can't have it. So I mean,
there would be rules and
regulations written
in stone.
>> Like the poles would be
painted or a certain size. I
mean, I don't know, just it was
thrown together quickly. And
you're right, it was. The code
wasn't. Or the ordinance wasn't
passed yet they were doing it,
which is fine. But I just,
I just looked at it, thought
just it didn't look good. It
wasn't appealing, it wasn't
classy, but it just looked
like it was just stuck out
there and hopefully people will
read it and come in. I don't
know, I just. It wasn't.
>> Well, how about, how about,
how about the recommend? Was.
Was it a homemade banner?
>> No, the banner was not
homemade. It was printed. It
was like you get
from a distributor, like, hey,
I need beer or wine or whatever
it might have said. So no,
it wasn't like hand campaign.
Okay.
>> I think also what some
of the people are putting out
for Bike Week
to last a week is not going
to be the same thing. Other
businesses are going
to be putting
out year long.
>> But I guess What I'm going
at is the look, not what the.
With the. The banner said, you
know,
because it could say anything.
It's just how it looks.
>> So I guess my point was more
so. I mean, bike week is more
for somebody was like
installing that temporarily and
not as what they're using
to advertise
for their business
on a regular basis. So maybe it
was thrown
out haphazardly.
>> It was definitely, I guess
how would we be able to. Or
code enforcement had to say,
and once they start sticking
them up there, it's going
to be a busy job.
>> Well, they'd have
to follow the ordinance. And I
think our code enforcement
officers do a good job
at going around in the small
businesses and making sure that
every ordinance is inactive. I
know five he went
to this week and it's only.
Well, actually today it's only
Monday.
>> Do you think there would be
an issue
with the banners taking them
down every night? That's a lot
of work. A flag you can pull
out the ground and, you know,
put it inside the bag.
>> That's why I think not
everyone's going
to utilize it.
>> So we did the pilot program
before and it ran
for a while. You know, this
one, you could always schedule
a workshop
for a certain date. Right. And
that way then it's
on the books for a workshop.
And then if there's issues
at that time, then you can have
the workshop and discuss it
again.
>> And then what we were saying
is if this passes tonight and
goes forward and then we start
having issues and, you know,
we're not happy
with how the city looks going
down us one, not
like a circus. We could say,
okay, we need to workshop this
and maybe tweak it. And it's a
possibility.
>> Yeah. And it takes what's
two meetings,
two council meetings a month.
Takes about two months
to get an ordinance passed now,
so before it was three
to four. So, you know, it's a
little bit quicker than it was
the last time.
>> Well, I'm willing,
especially if we can go back if
we're not happy
with it. I just wanted to put
out there that I wasn't
comfortable with both flags and
banners. I just thought one or
the other would be great.
But I, you know,
having both sides
of the street lined up
with things, it could be
distracting and the business
might not get what they are
wanting to get out of it.
>> Do you have a number, and
probably, Bridget, about
approximately how many small
businesses or businesses
in general we have in the city
of Edgewater
on the commercial.
>> Front, I want to say,
I want to say 1200.
>> 1200, yeah. That's
businesses total or just
on the commercial?
>> That would be businesses
total. In and
around that number.
>> Great. That's expanded
since 2022. That's wonderful.
And even last year.
>> Okay. So are there any
further comments or questions?
>> I have one more question.
So, would council be willing
to get going on the flags,
get that passed and then,
and then visit the banners
after like six months,
see how the flags take
off and see what it does? The
businesses may be happy, you
know, with the flags the way
they are, and we can visit the
banners another time.
>> I just. Why don't we make
the suggestion
to take table then? Because I
think that there's a couple
questions, but I mean, I, I, I
think that it should be left up
to the business owner
to decide. If you want to. I
just think maybe we could table
it
for further discussion.
>> Okay. And, and,
or one or the other. I just,
and then if it's a plaza, I
don't know how we could put a
limit. Like you said,
most not going to be 20 units,
20 flags, 20 banners.
>> But you have to keep
in mind that the, the city is
issuing the permits. So if we
want to limit anything where we
can workshop it as well.
>> Would you be willing
to move forward
with it and then revisit it
in so many months
like we did the prior time
to see how it looks?
>> Yes, I would be good with
that.
>> I make a motion that we
adopt. Hold on. I know. I got
it. I'm going to make the
suggestion that somebody makes
a motion that we approve this
ordinance with a workshop
of a period of six months. Is
there consensus for that?
>> Yes.
>> I make a motion to approve
the second reading
of ordinance number 222505 with
the consensus that we will have
a workshop in six months.
>> Second
>> Roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Item 8C, second reading
order, summer 2025 06, request
to amend the Florida Shores
Drainage Basin building permit
moratorium. Please read
into the Record Ordinance
Number.
>> 2025 006, an ordinance
of the City of Edgewater
Amending Ordinance 2024063 to
limit the temporary moratorium
to building permits that
increase the amount
of fill dirt on parcels
within the Florida short
drainage basin for a period
ending no later than January
5, 2026, unless rescinded or
extended
by a subsequent ordinance.
Providing procedures
for vested rights review for
the specific matters addressed
herein. Providing
for conflicting ordinances,
providing for severability,
providing an effective date.
>> Please Stand staff report
thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is a
second reading. This does have
a text amendment change
between the first and second
City staff erred
in the first submittal
with the exclusion of pools
which was added back in. So no
pool shall be permitted was
added into section 2 of the
moratorium which is really the
teeth of the moratorium
in addition to no import
of filter.
>> Thank you, sir. Open a
public hearing Citizens
Comments.
>> Agnes Witter 223 Flagler
Avenue. I know you want to
change the moratorium and just
go to no fill being brought in
from onto a property and using
fill from the property.
But even if you just use fill
from the property,
if you're taking from the back
to raise the front and and you
raise it up higher,
it's still going to be a runoff
problem because you're adding
more buildings. So you're
covering more
of edgewater up,
which is going to cause a
little higher flooding level.
And what you really should be
doing is making a code now that
takes into consideration what
you're going to face in the
future and can you afford more
fixing of a flooding problem
when you're going through all
of this now, you've got to
spend all this money now and
there's no, there's no fun and
there's no future and having
to just look
at more flooding fixtures
in the future. Raise your
houses 36 inches up
above the center of the road.
Put them on pillars or cement
block foundations
with openings for water flow
to go through. You can also
have permeable concrete
for your patios, your porches,
your outdoor porches,
your dock areas or your,
your pool decks, sidewalks,
anything that doesn't carry a
lot of weight,
you can use your permeable
cement, which will provide you
better water distribution.
There's a lot of things that
you can do and not have
to say, okay, we got
to stop building because we got
to look
at this water problem and
figure out what we're going
to do with it. If you did
something like this now
to prevent more flooding for
all your new buildings that
you're going to be.
>> Putting up your residential
buildings and you won't have
to worry about the future. So
it's something to consider. If
you put yourself
into a place where you're going
to look in the future to fixing
more flooding problems,
you're going to run out
of money because we are going
to run out
of money and that's a problem.
We don't want to have to pay
for any more remediation
of flooding problems. Low.
Let's take the steps right now
to do it the right way. Thank
you.
>> Thank you for your comments
and suggestions. It's
appreciated.
>> Chuck Martin 205 Cherry
Wood Lane, Edgewater this funny
thing is this all brings back
memories from a while back, I
think another subdivision was
going in off of Air Park Road
and the only question I had was
are you going
to hold your own water? And
then one of the engineers or
somebody got up and said
something real fast. Oh yeah,
we've met all her whatever.
And then there's actually a
video put out of water running
out of that subdivision going
into people's houses on Air
Park Road as I was asking that
same question.
But I guess my point is here,
kind of
like these big subdivisions
like Oakley Preserve, they
didn't bring any fill
in there. They just dug a big
hole, built it way up high and
then, well,
you know what happened
over there. So is this going
to apply to just like single
family homes or if they want to
annex and build another
subdivision,
can they dig a big lake? And
then that's kind
of what I was wondering.
>> Thank you
for your questions. This is
just related to the Forest
Shores drainage basin.
>> So is that
like single family homes
in that area?
>> Correct.
>> Wouldn't be a subdivision.
>> Correct. And that question
will be asked after this.
>> Yeah. And so then that is
kind
of a good idea because if they,
if they dig a hole in the back
and then that gives a place
for water to go and then if
they take that fill and they
put it and raise their house up
a little bit,
at least they're holding some
of their water. That's kind
of the way I see it.
But yeah, if they're. But stem
walls are good too. I know Rob
had mentioned that before,
but if they dig retention
in the back,
I think that's what a lot
of people are after. If they
can, you know, kind
of hold some
of their own water.
>> Dan Knight2290 Elegant
Manor I apologize for my breach
and protocol earlier. This
relates
to that section two comment,
no pools permitted. Those five
little words that seem to have
been added back in. I'm just
kind of curious and something
to contemplate. How is a 1500
square foot pool and patio
different than a 1500 square
foot detached garage? Both are
relatively impervious. Yet
under this current ordinance, I
think that the detached garage
could be approved,
whereas a pool cannot. And
that's a little concerning for
me considering the pool itself
can hold another 6 to 8 inches
of rainwater potentially. And
yet the detached garage could
get a get approved, I believe
as written. I think it does
open the city up to litigation.
I suggest speaking
to the city, the city's legal
counsel, get their opinion as
well as speaking as subject
matter experts that you guys
have hired and that who do work
here just to make sure you get
their opinion
before you attempt to pass this
as it's written. I think if you
cannot differentiate between
the pool and the garage itself
as both being impervious, then
I think you run that
possibility
of this running a foul,
getting you guys in trouble,
that litigation. And I don't
think you could pass it as
written based off that. Thank
you.
>> Thank you for your comments.
>> Good evening. My name is
Billy Dove. I'm an attorney
with Gray Robinson. I'm here
on behalf of the Edgewater
Preserve development. I just
want to briefly address this
proposed amended moratorium.
While we believe it's
appropriate to lift the burden
on property owners that was
created by the original
moratorium's wholesale ban
on any building permits, we
also believe that any
moratorium in this area,
including the revised proposal,
is an inappropriate way
for the city
to deflect responsibility
for preventing flooding. It
should also be noted that the
original. The original
moratorium imposed a
requirement on the city
to repair,
maintain and improve ditches,
canals and stormwater systems
while the moratorium was
pending. The amended moratorium
removes that requirement,
eliminating the city's
responsibility to undertake
badly needed maintenance and
repairs to their own systems
in the Florida shores. To add
to this, we're aware that a
complaint has been made to the
FDP alleging that approximately
60 of the city's intake drains
have been altered and currently
do not operate as designed.
Basically, the city's own
systems are failing and the
moratorium has only scapegoated
the Edgewater Preserve
development. The pond
on the north edge of the
Edgewater Preserve has now been
stabilized and is operational.
When the unfortunate storms
took place last September, this
wasn't the case as the ponds
had only been partially
constructed and not yet
stabilized. The recitals in the
moratorium reference flooding
in the Florida shores in
Hurricane Ian 2022 and that was
long before any site work had
taken place on Edgewater
Preserve. Phase 2. The area
recently experienced increased
rainfall on March 10th and
there were no issues
with the stormwater systems
at Edgewater Preserve.
In addition, Edgewater has
submitted vested rights letters
for each phase
of their development on
February 5 and has yet
to receive any response from
the city. I would ask the
council or member
of your staff, will the city
require, if this moratorium is
to be passed, will the city
require that new vested rights
applications be submitted or
will the admit the existing
applications be sufficient
under this moratorium as well?
>> Thank you, sir,
for your comments.
>> It's appreciated. Okay. Is
there. Do you understand? Do
you have an idea of how you'll
handle the vested rights
application?
>> Thank you, sir,
for your comments. It's
appreciated.
>> All right,
we'll follow up.
>> Thank you.
>> Good Evening, Eric
Rainbird, 118 San Remo Drive,
Edgewater. What that guy just
said is exactly what we might
need to change to make them
build the retention ponds
first. Then we watch how they
do. Then you let them build.
>> See no further. Citizens
comments. Council comments.
>> I wanted to bring that pool
subject up tonight. I wanted
to discuss with council. Your
thoughts are excluding.
Excluding it so the pools can
be built
during the moratorium. The
gentleman made a great point.
And I've.
Since our last meeting,
I've had a few residents reach
out to me who had pulled.
Tried to pull the pool permits
and were not able to. And they
were confused as to why,
like a detached garage,
we're going to allow a pool
that takes up maybe less space
in the garage. We are allowing.
So I wanted
to have that discussion tonight
to see if we could remove.
>> The pools
from the moratorium as
of right now. If they tried
to pull it, it would be denied
either way because it's still
banned
from the original moratorium.
So if they would have applied
any point in time
until a new one changes, they
would still have not been able
to do it.
>> And that's. But that's a.
It's a problem and it could be
a legal problem as well. And I
talked to Ryan about that. And
as the moratorium stands today
with the pools in may not stand
up.
>> City attorney.
>> Yeah, there's a. There is a
risk that it be challenged
for the. You know,
anytime you make an exception
like that,
there's a possibility of a,
perhaps an equal protection
challenge, that you're not
treating people equally. The
example was the shed. So there,
there is that risk that there
could be challenge or
litigation leading
to that.
>> It would have been great
to have that council
before this meeting. Meeting.
Well, then I make a motion that
we. Or suggest a motion that we
table this until the next
council meeting.
>> I will make a motion to
table a second reading because
I would also like
to have a full council
for this discussion. If moving
forward, I make a motion
to table the second reading
of ordinance number 2025 06.
>> Second
>> Roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Item 8D,
first reading order.
>> Sorry, Mr. Can I get some
direction.
>> On what you want me to
change? I think that the
suggestion now is just
to table the discussion until
we have a full council and
consult with our attorney.
Okay. I don't think that we
need to make any immediate
changes. I think it's just
tabled for discussion. Okay.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
Solstice. Item 8D was. I
corrected that. I apologize.
Okay. Item 8D. First reading.
Ordinance number 2025 01,
amending the restraining the
police officer's pension plan.
Please read
into the record or in.
>> Summer 2025 001, an
ordinance to the City council
of Edgewater, Florida repealing
Ordinance 2016 O34
in its entirety and amending,
restating and adopting the city
of Edgewater Florida police
officers pension planning
for filing with the division
of retirement at the Florida
Department of Management.
Services provided
for conflicting provisions
front
for cyber building and
providing
for an effective date.
>> Staff report.
>> City Council adopted
Ordinance 2016034 on November
14, 2016, which amended and
restated the Edgewater Police
officers pension Plan.
Subsequently, Ordinance
20170221 2220-2003-3202-2018
2320-2301-0202-3023 and
2024035 were adopted amending
various sections of the police
officer's pension plan.
Ordinance 202501 is
incorporation
of all pension amendments
into a restated plan. We're
requesting a motion
to approve ordinance 2025 01.
>> Thank you, sir. Open a
public hearing. Citizens
comments. Council comments.
The great Police Department.
Is there a motion
to approve?
>> Make a motion
to approve the first reading
of ordinance number 2025 01,
amending and restating the
police officer's pension plan.
>> Second
roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Item AD 2025 R05, approving
the locally funded agreement
LFA between the city of
Edgewater and the Florida
Department of Transportation
FDOT
for the emergency traffic
signal at Fire Station 55 FPN
Number 4534-722-6202.
>> Please read into the
Record Resolution Number 2024
R05 a resolution of the City
Council but the City of
Edgewater, Florida to sign a
locally funded agreement LFA
with the Florida Department
of Transportation FDA
to provide a lump sum deposit
in the amount of $22,337
to support the Construction,
Engineering, Inspection CEI
of the installation
of the emergency traffic signal
in front of the fire station.
55 Repealing resolutions
of conflict here
with providing
for severability and for
establishing an effective date.
>> Thank you.
>> Staff Report the FDOT has
requested the City of
Edgewater to execute the
locally funded agreement
for project number 400534722
62.
For the Florida Department of
Transportation
to provide a lump sum deposit
for construction, engineering
and inspections or CEI services
for the installation
of the emergency traffic signal
in front of Fire Station 55.
We're asking
for motion and approval
for the city of Edgewater to
execute a local funding
agreement
for the emergency traffic
signal at Fire Station 55.
>> Thank you. Open a public
hearing. Citizens Comments.
>> Chuck Martin, 2 of 5
Cherrywood Lane as a crane
operator that's. Every
hurricane out of town.
Assistant Florida Power
Enlighten several other
companies
with power restoration
over the last 20 years and
traveling all over the state
of Florida last 30 years. I
think I can tell you that I
can't think of any other cities
or anybody our size that
doesn't have a emergency light
for our fire department
to get out. And I've seen it
several times when they've
tried to get
out there and they got
to wait. So this is great. I
know you guys are going
to prove it. Anyways, I just
wanted to say that it's great
and it's much,
much needed here. I just want
to thank you, Mayor, for. I
know you've been working behind
the scenes putting this forth
and it's taken a long time
to get here and. And I just
want
to thank everybody up there
for. For making this happen.
It's taken a long time. Every
one of you, all of you,
thank you.
>> Thank you, sir,
for your comments. Council
comments. I just want to say
that this has been long
overdue. It's been talked
about, I think, ever since I
was elected and I've been in
Jeff's office
before and I'll go. You hear
that? It'll be someone
screeching on their brakes as
the ambulance is trying
to get out. So great job
between our both city managers,
our grants department Chief
larosy for making this come to
fruition and our finance
department. It takes a team and
a team was together
to get this established. As the
citizen said tonight,
there's been public support
for this reunion years. We have
a tremendous police and fire
department and all the
collaboration that come
together for this project has
been tremendous,
long overdue. Thank you
to the Grants department,
Chief Literacy and city
management. Is there a motion
to approve?
>> Make a motion to approve
2025 R05 approving locally
funded agreement
between the city of Edgewater
and the Florida Department of
Treasury Transportation
for the emergency traffic
signal at the Fire Station
55.
>> Second
>> Roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Item 8F, Resolution 2025 R06
approving the Local Agency
Program LAP between City of
Edgewater and the Florida
Department of Transportation
FDOT for the Emergency
Traffic Signal Fire Station 55
FPN Number 4534-721-5801.
>> Please read into the
Record Resolution Number 2025
R06, a resolution of the City
Council of the City of
Edgewater, Florida authorizing
the City Manager to enter into
and execute a local agency
program agreement with the
State of Florida Department
of Transportation concerning
the installation
of an emergency traffic signal
in front of Fire Station 55.
Repealing resolutions
of conflict here with provided
for severability and
applicability and establishing
an effective date.
>> Thank you.
>> Staff Report the FTT has
requested the City of
Edgewater to execute the local
agency program agreement
for project number 453-472158
for the design and installation
of the emergency signals
in front of Fire Station 55.
The estimated cost
of the project is 558,837
with the city agreeing
to participate
in the project cost up
to the maximum amount of
$265,940. The city has already
contributed 127,135 towards the
maximum city cost towards its
project.
For the design work required
by FDOT. We are requesting a
motion and approval of
Resolution 2025 RO6
to execute the Local Agency
Program Agreement for Project
4 emergency traffic signal at
Fire Station 55.
>> Thank you sir. Open a public
hearing. Citizens Comments
Council comments Is there a
motion
to approve? I make our motion
to Approve resolution number
2025 R06 approving the local
agency program between the
City of Edgewater and the the
Florida Department of
Transportation
for the emergency traffic
signal at Fire Station 55.
>>Second
>> Roll call
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Yes. Item
10 Other business Item 10 A
whistle stop park easement
request
from FPL FPL staff report
Florida Power and Light.
>> Is proposing an easement
path to bury a primary power
line and place a pad mounted
transformer as a part of their
secure underground program.
They are proposing a 10 foot
strip easement be placed
along the western property line
of Whistle stop Park totaling
10 foot by 960 foot easement.
Two pad mounted transformers
will be placed with
within the strip for the
replacement overhead power
overhead pole mounted
transformers on the property.
They are designed to be placed
in the same vicinity as the
existing poles. Since the
city's meters are existing
underground for these points,
they will be reconnected
to the new underground service
during construction structure.
We're requesting approval
of FPL's request for easement
at Whistle Stop Park.
>> Thank you. Citizens.
Comments Council Comments. Is
there a motion to approve.
Make a motion to approve
Whistle Stop park easement
request from FPL.
>> Second
>> Roll call
[CALLING ROLL]
>> Item 10B, FP2401 Request
for final plat approval for
Smyrna Creek Preserve, a 78 lot
residential subdivision. Staff
report.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The
request before you is
to approve the final plat for
Smyrna Creek Preserve, a 78 lot
residential subdivision.
Smyrna Creek Preserve is
located off of old Mission
Road. It 21.49 plus or minus
acres. The preliminary plat was
approved on November 6, 2023
by the City Council. The
applicant first submitted
for final plat on June 21st
of 2024. Subsequent reviews
have taken place and the
technical review committee has
reviewed the following final
plat and has found that the
development meets the
requirements
of the preliminary plat, the
Land Development Code and the
Residential Planned Unit
Development Agreement
for the subject property. Just
again, the final plot is the
second step
in the process process
of subdividing land
into separate parcels
for future sale or lease. Once
a preliminary plot has been
approved, the final plot
process can begin. And this is
the subject site. You can see
on the screen. The Total
acreage is 21.49 acres. 15,
15.6 or so are
in open space and that is a 3
acre water retention pond. You
have the conservation track in
the southeastern portion where
they preserved all the wetlands
as well as landscape buffers
and so forth. The original pud
did call for 168 units. After
meeting our stormwater code,
they were left with about 78
units
on the subject property.
>> Thank you. Applicant
Presentation comments.
>> Good evening everybody. My
name is Matt Stoles with Dr.
Horton, 10192 down road. You
know, I'm just really here to
address any comments or any
questions that anyone has.
We've worked pretty hard
to meet with the everyone
with the city to address any
comments or concerns that
anybody has. There's nothing
really that I've heard or
anyone has any reservations
with that we're aware of.
But we'd like the opportunity
to respond if anything does
come up, just to provide
additional information. Know
our site is fully constructed.
Everything is stabilized clean.
We're about 99% done
with the construction
of the site. Work.
Everything's been working well.
There haven't been any issues
on the construction side
of things. You know,
we understand. I think as Ryan
mentioned,
everything's been approved
on the construction.
On the construction plan side
between staff and the board and
our final plot is approved
by staff and we're just looking
to get that approved tonight
here with my development team
as well. If there's any
specific questions, serving
engineering land questions as
well. So that's all I got.
>> Thank you, sir. So this is.
Comments. Take council
comments. I just want
to say that I think I was one
of the first and only members
that stated that we cannot
continue to build until we have
a stormwater master plan
in hand. Before Hurricane
Milton and a large rain event
when I was first elected,
the original developer
of this issue, of this
development was having an issue
through permitting. And it was
when we were transitioning
from Mr. Lear to Ryan. And I
met
with him and I had quite a bit
of concern. We went and drove
the property. I'm going to sit
in front of you and tell you
that this is the only
subdivision in all of the city
of Edgewater that I have not
received a single complaint
about. I walked the property
behind there, the development
behind there. All the neighbors
seemed okay. This is one of the
largest buffers I've ever seen,
to be honest. Please don't take
offense to this. I'm very
surprised that this is Dr.
Horton project. I would
recommend that they that this
is how every subdivision.
Unfortunately, we're going
to continue
to build regardless. We have
12,000 homes already approved
in the city of Eduard. I would
encourage Dr. Horton
to continue to build like this
on what is already approved
in our community. This is not
approval of the subdivision.
This is not approval
of the subdivision. It has
already been approved,
has already moved forward.
This is a final plat decision.
I did my due diligence. I made
the motion to table because I
couldn't get a hold of the
original developer I met with,
which I got a hold of and asked
a couple questions. I drove the
property three different times.
The mobile home park
behind there, like I stated,
was not affected at all. I. I
think that this is a
subdivision of that meets
quality expectations. And you
don't hear me say that often. I
think the elevation is not a
concern here. You don't
necessarily see it being 10ft
above the other facility like
several other subdivisions.
And the buffer is large.
That's just my opinion. I also
met with Mr. Stolz and as well
as the engineer who answered
all of my questions and walked
the property as well. And I'm
more comfortable.
>> With this than other
projects that have come to us
in the past.
>> Mr. Attorney.
>> Sorry.
>> Yes. Just to quickly, you
know, go over the law
on final plat approval. The
Florida Supreme Court has held
that a decision granting or
denying a final plat
application is governed
by local regulations, which
must be uniformly administered.
The administrative procedure,
and this is an administrative
procedure procedure for final
plat approval is quasi judicial
in nature, conducted to
factually determine if the
proposed site or final plat
submitted
by the property owner conforms
to the specific requirements
set out in the administrative
regulations governing the
erection of improvements
on the property. And property
owners are entitled to notice
of the conditions they must
meet in order
to improve their property
in accordance with the existing
zoning and other development
requirements regulations
of the government. And these
conditions must be set out
in clearly stated regulations,
which they are for the city.
So compliance with these
regulations should be capable
of objective determination in
an administrative proceeding.
And that is the purpose
of this public hearing, is to
make that objective
determination. While the burden
is on the property owner
to demonstrate compliance,
there's no legislative
discretion in involved
in resolving the issue
of compliance. So once the
applicant meets the initial
burden of showing that their
application met all the city's
criteria
for granting the application,
the burden then shifts
to the city to demonstrate
by competent,
substantial evidence presented
at the hearing and made part of
the record that the application
did not meet such standards and
was in fact, adverse
to the public interest. So
to deny a plaid application,
local government,
like the city, must show by
competent substantial evidence
that the application does not
meet the published criteria.
So if the application complies
with the comprehensive plan,
the land Development code,
the zoning and the RPUD
agreement, the Florida
statutes,
and they have all the
permitting, then the
application should be granted.
>> I did just have one
question, and it's more of a
simple question. I'm not sure,
actually, if it's for you or
environmental services that
will be maintained by the city
of Edgewater's responsibility.
Correct. As far as any kind of
stormwater criteria moving
forward around that property,
is it county maintained? Is it
is a runoff go into a county? I
know water has no boundary. It
ultimately goes to Edgewater
Canal and out.
But I'm just curious, is that
in the county or is that
in the city? And how exactly
would that process maintenance
look moving forward? Because we
maintain our own canals and
ditches. So I'm just curious.
>> So this site is. The
hydrology in this area is very
particular and it's very
strange. So on this west side
of Old Mission, the water flows
north on the east side,
it flows south. So it's kind
of. Well, it flows south
in the north again
through the canal. But so
over here, the wetlands and the
furthest southern portion that
are in conservation will flow
into the compensating storage
pond. And there is a creek that
they preserve the opening.
That creek then runs under
Eslinger and that's the
headwaters of the Turnbull
Creek that goes into Turnbull
Bay out into Indian River.
They also then have the pond
that is
for their subdivision. So the
compensating storage helps
facilitate that flow
of that wetland and still
into that creek. And then as
far as. So the county maintains
the ditch along Old Mission
in this project, the city part
of the comp plan says they
either have to dedicate the
wetlands and areas
in conservation to St. John's
or the city. So that's
in perpetuity
in conservation, and that's
in the con plan policy. Now, as
far as. So the HOA
in this case will maintain,
you know,
the stormwater system
for this specific site. Now as
far as the county maintains the
ditch on Old Mission, and that
is the county's responsibility.
Part of that is that how.
>> Yes.
>> Did that answer?
>> Yes. Thank you.
>> What I like
about this project is it has
21 acres plus over 15 is going
to be in conservation,
which is big. Two thirds
of it's going
to stay conservation,
preservation. And the fact that
it flows north after,
if it overflows
for some reason that pond,
it goes into wetlands and then
to the Turnbull Bay headwaters
and then it goes north. So the
trailer park that's below it,
there's no worries there. I
spoke with a few
of the residents there as well.
No, I think it's a great
project. And do I understand
right that they're going
to dedicate it back
to the city?
>> Yeah. So the areas that are
in conservation, that
southeastern, I don't recall
off the top
of my head how big it was.
That'll be in dedicated
to the city. So that'll be
in perpetuity and conservation.
As well as the kind
of the mouth of the creek,
which is
in that northwest kind
of line coming out of the
northern property boundary that
will also be preserved.
>> Is there a motion
to approve.
>> Make a motion
to approve. FP2401 request
for final plat approval for
Smyrna Creek Preserve.
>> Second
>> Roll call.
>> [CALLING ROLL]
>> Item 11. Officer reports
item 11, a city clerk.
>> With the special election
coming up, we have the city
canvassing board
of this interim city manager,
the mayor and myself, I would
like to, just to be on the safe
side because we really only
have one shot
at doing the canvassing
of the election. Just have an
alternate just in case. Not
to jinx anybody, but just
to be on the safe side. So if I
could just get consensus from.
From council, I suggest Vice
Mayor Gillis as an alternate
for the canvassing board.
Everybody is okay
with that?
>> Sure.
>> Okay. And then a reminder.
The special election is on
April 1. The polling locations
are open from 7 to 7. It is
citywide,
meaning you do not have
to live in that district
in order to vote for District
4. And anyone who is voting
would go
to their normal precinct. As
with any election,
whomever is elected
on the 1st will be sworn in
at the meeting on the 7th.
That's all I have.
>> Thank you. Item 11B, City
Attorney.
>> Nothing at this time.
>> Item 11C, City Manager.
>> Nothing additional to the
memorandum that I emailed this
morning or put
in your mailboxes. There are a
few things I'd like
to highlight is participated
in the LNA testing
for that special election
in the land. Also, I'm being
considered to serve on the
National American Public Work
Association Subcommittee on
Operations and Maintenance.
>> It's not done deal,
but congratulations.
>> It's a great honor. Also,
staff has been working
diligently with Spectrum
Business
to install the final components
for relocating the department
Development and Review
Department to the new
Riverside Drive location. We
are anticipating that to take
place no later than first week
in April. We'd also like
to have a ribbon cutting. Yet
to be determined what date.
Right. Those are the things I'd
like to highlight. I would
like to ask Sean
to give us some updates
on stormwater activities.
>> Sean Maroney, Interim
Environmental Services
Director Just
to give you an update
like we've been trying to put
out every week where the guys
are working or the crews are
working. Currently we got a big
undertaking on the Queen Lake
between 21st and 19th, cleaning
up some trees that were dead or
leaning over the lake trying
to clean that up. Got a crew
in Parktown cleaning up. We had
the Menzie was over
in the landings
in their big canal and it broke
down last week. So it's
currently still. I think we're
going to have it back
on the road this week. So
hopefully get that gets back
in there. You know,
just running through, doing
some mowing and other things
throughout the maintenance. I
know everybody's interested in
these boxes that we were
reported to the state on. So I
did want to give you an update
and I do want
to get some clarification
to let you guys know,
there's a lot
of misinformation being spread
out there, even
by people associated
with council. So I just want
to make sure you're all
on the same page. These boxes
are not flood control. They are
water quality control. So they
were cut,
from what I understand,
what I've seen
in my experience,
to allow water to move because
of flooding issues. When we
seal them up,
they are not going to help
with flood. It. It may make it
worse, but it's not going
to make it better. So just
to let you know, currently in
Florida shores there's 92 boxes
that I've identified. I've
looked at 53
of them so far and 20 do have
some form of a cut,
whether it's 6 inches or all
the way down to the bottom
of the box. So we will address
that once I'm done doing all
the inspections. But just want
to make sure that everybody
knows what we're,
what we're dealing with here.
So I know there's a lot,
there's some videos and stuff
that people are sharing that
are false information. So just
want
to make sure you're all aware
of that.
>> Thank you. Any further
on your report?
>> And Sean, we were given 60
days
to do that inventory.
>> Yes, 60 days
for the inspection. And then
once I put together a plan, it
could be sooner. I'll let the
state know and we'll give them
our plan for whatever time we
think it'll take to,
to patch. You know,
at this point, you know,
if it's half the boxes or
whatever,
it ends up being.
>> We'll talk later. I,
I got another request related
to that.
>> That'S all we had. And this
week, this Thursday and
Saturday, or just Saturday?
Thursday and Saturday. Next
round of public participation
in our process for Ryan's
project.
>> Okay, thank you. Item 12,
citizens comments.
>> Chuck Martin, 2 of 5
Chairwood Lane. Just one more
tonight. Now, you guys were
hoping I would get back up here
tonight. Seen some great
progress. I haven't seen
progress
like this ever. I just want
to give a shout out to Mr.
Brown and his team because a
lot of people don't know what's
going on out there. Now that
he's publicly, you know,
putting it out there where
people can see it,
it's making a difference. And
these guys are, they're doing a
great job. I've been kind
of looking
at what they're doing. They're
doing great with amount of
people that they have and
hopefully we can up that
in the future. But I wanted
to get back to the county thing
because I know the county had
offered us some help I know
they had you know helped us
with some cleaning
out some culverts but I haven't
seen any grade all or graders
or anything I know that I
talked to Mr. Thurman when he
first come on and he had
mentioned man it'd be great
to have a motor grader to run
down the sides a lot of these
streets and just cut a swell
and scoop that stuff up and
that can happen pretty quick
and I know he's got some great
ideas there
but is there any updates on the
county helping us you know
because hurricane seasons come
and helping us dig some of
these ditches and cut some
swells and if there is do they
charge us
for that or are they just going
to a good faith to help us
out or is there any information
on that?
>> Thank you sir, for your
comments, no further
citizens comments we are
adjourned.