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>> I call to order the City

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Council meeting of March 17,

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2025. Roll call.

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>> [CALLING ROLL]

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>> Please stand for the Pledge

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of Allegiance.

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>>I pledge allegiance to the

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Flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic for

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which it stands, one Nation

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under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> Please remain standing

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for a moment of silence. Item

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two, Approval or changes or

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modifications to the agenda,

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seeing none at this time. Item

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3, Approval of the minutes.

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Seeing none at this time. Item

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4, presentation, proclamations,

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plaque certificates,

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or any donations. Seeing none

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at this time. Item 5,

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Citizens Comments. This is a

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time for the public

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to come forward

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with any concern,

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concerns and comments they may

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have. Please make your comment.

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If it is related

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to an agenda matter. The time

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that that matter is

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before the council. Please

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limit your comments

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to three minutes or less.

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Please state your name and

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address.

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>> Yes, I'm first and I'm

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short. Can you hear me? Okay.

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My name's Beverly Palmer, and

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I'm here to represent

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Edgewater Union Church. If you

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don't know, it happens

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to be the oldest church in

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Edgewater. It's built next

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to the cemetery on Route 1.

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And I'm here to invite the

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council and anyone who would

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love to come. We're having a

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birthday cookout on April 12,

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the anniversary

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of our church starting 113

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years ago. So that's all. I've

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already put in

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for a proclamation, hoping that

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the bear can come and anyone

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who would love to come.

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Anyone. So, it's going

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to be advertised more,

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but I'm here

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to hand you invitations.

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>> Well, thank you so much. If

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you could please hand us the

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invitations, but also please

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send the information

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to the city clerk to put it

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on our calendars as well,

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please. Thank you.

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>> If she would just give me

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the invites, I'll make sure you

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all get them. If you just give

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me the invites, I'll make sure

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that they get them.

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>> Thank you so much. Thank you

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for all you do. It really is a

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lovely church and a lovely

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organization.

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>> I'll be there.

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>> Thank you very much.

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>> You're welcome.

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>> I'm not sure how I can

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compete with that. Thank you.

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So my name is Dan Knight. 2290

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Elegant Manor. Circle

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Reference, Ordinance 2025 O06.

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Specifically that ordinance you

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guys are.

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>> If that is on the agenda,

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could you please write

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before the matter is

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before the council?

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>> Yeah, that's okay. No,

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Problem. We just request that

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you comment if the matter is

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coming before the council. If

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it's on the agenda,

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so do it then

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during the public hearing.

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Thank you.

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>> Edgewater. Chuck Martin,

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205 Cherry Wood Lane,

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Edgewater. Proud

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to announce that I've applied

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for the city manager position

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in the city of Edgewater. I

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feel that my 42 going on 43

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years of experience

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in public works, solid waste,

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hazardous waste operations,

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fighting brush fires

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with the county and just being

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in the construction field and

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managing, you know,

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jobs and positions and stuff

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like that, being around here

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forever qualifies me. So I met

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the qualifications to apply, I

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applied,

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it was accepted and it's

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under review. And I feel

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like if it gets

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to where it needs to go that I

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would hope that I would have

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the votes on the council

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to move forward

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with this position. Then I

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would be working for you guys

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and I think that would be

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great. Did have one other

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comment because I've had a lot

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of people talking to me about

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it and I thought I would ask

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maybe we could get some

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clarification

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from if the mayor would ask

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Mr. Wolf, give some

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clarification on the use

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of city vehicles

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on personal time. I think, you

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know, some of it's loud

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like you know, on Mr.

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Thurman, you know, he drives

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out vehicle but that's. He's

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allowed to do that,

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so I'm sure he's able

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to do that. But as far as

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cities employees using city

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vehicles for personal use

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on personal time, I kind

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of wonder how that would work

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with our insurance and is that

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allowed? Maybe our HR director

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can answer that. I just kind

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of want some clarification

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on that.

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for your comments. We'll make

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sure to get that answered

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for you.

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maybe they could answer now or

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typically this is.

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>> Your time to address the

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council and typically you can

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talk to the directors and

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City Manager and council.

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after the meeting.

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>> Could maybe somebody send me

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an email

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with that that can also.

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to have an email.

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>> And they've got my emails.

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appreciated.

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to start off, I want to thank

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Ron, Ryan Solstice and the

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staff for holding the community

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workshops that they've been

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for the last two months. Been

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very informative and I think

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very thoughtful and considerate

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for the community

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to learn something

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about zoning and so forth.

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Thanks. Ryan. I want to bring

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up an issue here that many

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of the homeowners in

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Riverfront Estates are now

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experiencing, and that is

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shoddy construction. We're

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watching as houses, and they're

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just finishing up the last

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couple here, but they're

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pouring concrete slabs and they

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are putting up brick walls

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three or four days

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after the slab is poured, which

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is not giving the concrete

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enough time to cure.

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we're seeing cracks

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in our walls. I have

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at least eight in mind, and

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at least three

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of them are step cracks,

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which are generally a sign of

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foundation shifting. I don't

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compressing the dirt

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before they do anything either.

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on here? But there's certainly

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shoddy construction, and I

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don't know how a building

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inspector could let this go by.

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of the concrete with water

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over the next couple of days

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of pouring it. One of my

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neighbors told me that they ran

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into the person that was or one

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of the people that was pouring

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the concrete and that they're

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watering the concrete

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down so that it's easier

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to spread. That weakens the

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concrete and requires a longer

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curing time. So we got a really

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serious situation here where

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our houses are not what they

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were supposed to be because

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of shoddy construction. So I

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don't know, really. It needs

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to be looked into. It's just

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not a good thing. It's not a

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good thing.

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>> Thank you, sir, for. Do you

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have anything else?

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want to bring in to the issue

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the gopher tortoise situation

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on River Oaks,

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on that property lot there,

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I ran into two months ago.

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And Charlotte, you were

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over there with your husband.

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You. We counted 50 boroughs,

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right? There was an

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environmental consultant there

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within a month after that,

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and she counted 80 burrows.

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Now, she told me,

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because I went and talked to

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her and she told me there that

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there was a previous inspection

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done here

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within the last two years,

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and they counted seven. How do

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you miss that many gopher

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tortoises? You don't. Unless

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there is a financial incentive,

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obviously, to miss those

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turtles because it costs a lot

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of money to remove them and

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relocate them. So you add that

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into the Riverfront Estates

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lot, which I am told

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by a long time resident there,

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that that place had just as

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many tortoise tortoises

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in it. They relocated

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eight or nine.

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for your comments. It's truly

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appreciated.

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>> Could you please fill A

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contact card out in the back.

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to get your phone number.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Okay. Item six,

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council reports. Councilwoman

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Dolbow, I have nothing

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at this time. Councilwoman

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Gillis, I have nothing at this

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time. I also have nothing

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at this time. Item seven,

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consent agenda. Is there a

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motion to approve the consent

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agenda? I would like

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to pull an item

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for discussion. Which item is

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that to pull? Item 7B.

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>> Okay. I'd also like to pull

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7A and just so it could be

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explained. It's a great.

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It's. It's a great. It's a

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great thing that we're doing.

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And I just want to get on the

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record so that the residents

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know what the city is doing as

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far as the lining.

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>> Great. Is there a motion to

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approve the consent agenda

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minus item 7A and 7B?

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>> Make a motion to approve the

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consent agenda minus A and B.

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>> Second

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>> Roll call.

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>> [CALLING ROLL]

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>> Item 7A, CD BG sewer lining

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project engineering staff,

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could you give us an update

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on that, please?

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>> Dan, would you address that,

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please?

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>> This, the sewer lining is a

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CDBG grant that we're moving

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forward with. We have Jeffrey

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Winters here tonight to talk

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on that a little bit. We'll be

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doing approximately,

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I think. I think it's 78

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manholes and lining sewers

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from the booster station or

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Park Avenue booster station

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south

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about four blocks towards the.

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Towards one. They'll be coming

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in. This is a $50,000 match

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on a grant that is roughly

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$750,000. So it's a low income

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area. It's an area that we see

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a lot of infiltration,

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influx and infiltration,

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or ini. It's really going

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to help out the water plant as

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well as all of the citizens

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in that area.

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>> Great. Thank you. Any

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comments? Is there a motion

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to approve item 7A

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of the consent agenda?

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>> Make a motion to approve 7A

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of the agenda, the CDBG sewer

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lining project and engineering.

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>> Second

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>> Roll call. Mayor DePew, this

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is a tremendous thing. I'm glad

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we're moving forward with this.

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>> [CALLING ROLL]

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>> Okay. Item 7B, purchase

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of meters,

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pipe fittings and other for the

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water and wastewater operations

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and management staff report.

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>> Dan, would you also address

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this?

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>> This is just our standard

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items that we use throughout

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the year. It's a blanket

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purchase or. Yeah, blanket

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purchase order with two

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of the contractors. Things that

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you would see in our inventory

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throughout and used throughout

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the year.

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>> Great. Council comments.

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>> I guess my concern is I

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brought it up a couple times

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that there's been residents'

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concerns

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about the meters themselves.

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So, I and I've brought up

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having those looked into in the

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future and you said we would

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talk about that later. I guess

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my concern is just green

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lighting, purchasing more

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of them. If I'm concerned that

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there is an issue with some

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of them.

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>> These aren't strictly

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meters. It's also pipes,

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saddles, different connections

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for our water and wastewater

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field operations and wastewater

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collections groups.

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>> I will say that I brought

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this up, I believe at the last

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council meeting. I have had

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some residents concerns come

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forward also as Ms. Gillis and

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I'm sure Councilman Dolbow's

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heard before about the meters.

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I'm not saying that every meter

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is bad or the brand that we're

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using is faulty, but I would

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like to just workshop our

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utility bill like we discussed

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at the last meeting

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to move forward

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with that as well. Just stating

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that for the record that there

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has been concerns brought

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forward about the meters, but

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this is involving others as

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well.

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>> I am going to recommend a

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workshop tremendous. And any

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specific address and citizen

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customer. We will fully

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investigate it and come down

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to the what is the cause,

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whether it be usage,

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whether it be a leak

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behind the meter. Those are the

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only two options because of the

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type meter that we're using.

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It's a pass through, it's not a

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mechanical. I don't want

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to get into the gory details

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but it's a pass through,

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not a mechanical. So there's

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not a mechanical something

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to wear out. But we will if,

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if we get an address and a

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name, we will investigate every

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single last concern.

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>> Awesome. If you had a guess,

440
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just an estimation. How many

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meters is this approving

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to purchase for the year?

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>> This is just a blankets so

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it could be fittings,

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it could be meters,

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anything that they need to

447
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to do their job

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in the field.

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>> Gotcha. Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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>> But the majority of this is

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for everything else. And this

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is not like green lighting a

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very large amount of meters.

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Correct?

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>> Correct.

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>> Correct.

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>> Okay. Is there a motion

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to approve item 7B of the

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Consent agenda?

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>> Make a motion

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to approve set agenda item B,

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purchase of meters, pipes,

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fittings and other aquatics for

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water and wastewater operations

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and maintenance.

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>> I'll second it.

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But I just,

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I do want that addressed in at

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a future time. I know business

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needs to go forward as far as

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everything else.

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>> Please call the roll.

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>> [CALLING ROLL]

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>> Item eight, Public hearing

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Ordinances and resolutions.

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Item eight, a Public notice

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in household income

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Verification survey. Florida

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Small Cities Community

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Development Block Grant CDBG

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Program Staff report and

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Presentation.

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>> We're very excited

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to maybe take advantage

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of another opportunity

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through the Florida Commerce

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for a $750,000 grant from

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Florida Small Cities

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Community Development Block

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Grant CDBG program. Looking to

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do some additional sewer lining

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and for areas of low income or

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identified low income and

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really looking forward

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to participating,

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potentially taking advantage

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of this opportunity. And we do

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have a presentation.

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>> My name is Jeffrey Winter

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with Cornerstone Community

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Partners. It's an honor

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to appear

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before you all this evening.

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Just to reiterate what we're

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here today is

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for the first public hearing

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for a prospective application

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to the FFY 2324 C CDBG program.

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The first public hearing. The

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purpose is to make the public

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aware that the city is

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interested in applying

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to the program,

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to briefly explain the types

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of categories of funding

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in which a city could apply,

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and then to open the floor

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for public comments

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on prospective projects. To

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briefly cover the four

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categories

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for this CDBG program, the

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first category is commercial

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revitalization. Typical

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projects funded through the

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commercial revitalization

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category include facilities

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facade improvements and

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streetscape improvements to a

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designated downtown district.

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Second category would be the

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economic development category.

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This makes funding available

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for communities to provide

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infrastructure improvements

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in support of a business to

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either create or retain jobs.

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Third category would be the

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neighborhood revitalization.

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That is the same category

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of funding in which the sewer

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lining re project is currently

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funded. It covers

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infrastructure improvements

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throughout the city, with the

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fourth category being the

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housing rehabilitation category

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where in that category funding

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is made available

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to rehabilitate, in some cases

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demolish and reconstruct homes

553
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for low to moderate income

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persons throughout the

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community. That being said,

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I'd be happy

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to turn the floor back over

558
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to solicit public comment.

559
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:09,100
>> Thank you, sir. We

560
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appreciate you open a public

561
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hearing. Citizens Comments

562
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Council comments I think it's

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great.

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>> $750,000 is the grant. Will

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it be any kind of a match

566
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for this cycle alone? They've

567
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waived the $750,000 maximum.

568
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There is no cap

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on the funding. We've had city

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staff propose some projects

571
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that are being considered

572
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around the tune of around 1.5

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million in terms of matching.

574
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It's not mandatory. However, we

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do anticipate it will be a

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competitive cycle. So we would

577
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encourage the commitment of

578
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$50,000 in leverage

579
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to go towards this.

580
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>> Project and we've identified

581
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that. I'm sorry Dan, would you

582
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update us on where they this

583
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potential projects are

584
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for this grant?

585
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>> We're looking at some 2 inch

586
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galvanized line replacement

587
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:20,100
on the northwest portion

588
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:23,100
of the city there. Our goal is

589
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:26,601
to eliminate all of the 2 inch

590
00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:29,100
galvanized. That's a lot

591
00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:31,100
of our rust, a lot

592
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:32,100
of our worst lines,

593
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,401
worst areas. On top

594
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:39,100
of that we're also looking

595
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:42,100
at eliminating some of the

596
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:44,100
original air relief valves

597
00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:45,100
for the wastewater system.

598
00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:47,100
Basically an ARV you have

599
00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:50,100
to get rid of air. You have

600
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,100
pockets

601
00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:56,100
of air which causes pressure,

602
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:57,100
which causes your pumps and.

603
00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,100
And things not

604
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,100
to flow as easy. So you have

605
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:02,100
to bleed off the gases,

606
00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:05,100
the air. And we have 13 ARVs

607
00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,100
that are original to the system

608
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:10,100
that have the potential if

609
00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:12,401
anything were to happen

610
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:16,100
to them it would take a lot of.

611
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,100
We'd have a lot of downtime and

612
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:20,100
emergency repairs. And so we're

613
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,100
looking

614
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:23,100
at identifying them and,

615
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,100
and any other ARVs. Also

616
00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:26,100
looking

617
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,100
at some plant equipment,

618
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,100
possibly just looking around

619
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:31,100
to be to make sure we use the

620
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:34,100
CDBG funding as efficient as

621
00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,100
possible.

622
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:43,100
>> Thank you, Dan.

623
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,100
>> The one thing

624
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,100
about this one though, it has

625
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,100
to be pretty much designed

626
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:50,100
already. We would go further

627
00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:53,100
with a lot more galvanized

628
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:55,100
replacement.

629
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,100
But it's something you've got

630
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,100
to have engineering and bidding

631
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:01,100
or estimates done and ready.

632
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,100
So we can only do so much

633
00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:05,100
in that area this time.

634
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,100
>> Thank you Dan.

635
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:11,100
>> Well, I want to thank staff

636
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,100
for seeing this opportunity and

637
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:15,100
pouncing on this so quickly.

638
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,100
Any kind of grant opportunities

639
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,100
and state appropriations that

640
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,100
we can find is always a

641
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,100
tremendous thing. I want

642
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,100
to thank our grant writer.

643
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:28,100
We're at over $30 million

644
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:29,100
of funding in grants alone. So

645
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:31,100
she's doing a tremendous job,

646
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:33,100
tremendous department. I'm glad

647
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:34,100
that the council has supported

648
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:37,100
that department or that part of

649
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:40,100
our city and getting a part

650
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,100
time clerkship will help us

651
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:43,100
with more funding. So this is a

652
00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:45,100
tremendous opportunity

653
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,100
to bring back some funding

654
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:49,100
to the city

655
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,100
for separate areas, any kind

656
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:54,100
of watershed. This will help

657
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,100
tremendously. So appreciate

658
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,100
staff and all you have done

659
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,100
to pounce

660
00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:01,100
on this opportunity. Any

661
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,100
further comments? Is there a

662
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,100
motion to approve?

663
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,100
>> Make a motion to approve

664
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:08,100
public notice and household

665
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,100
income verification survey

666
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:13,100
Florida Small Cities

667
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:14,100
Community Development Block

668
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:16,100
Grant.

669
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:17,100
>> Do we want to take public

670
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,100
comment?

671
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,100
>> There was not.

672
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,100
>> Second.

673
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,100
>> Okay, roll call.

674
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:28,100
>> [CALLING ROLL]

675
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,100
>> Okay. Item 8B,

676
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:35,100
second reading ordinance number

677
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:37,100
2025 dash O05, request

678
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:39,100
for approval for amendments,

679
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:40,100
Article 3, Article 6 and

680
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:42,100
Article 20 of the Land

681
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,100
Development Code. Please read

682
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,100
into the record OR in.

683
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,100
>> Summer 2025005 and

684
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,100
Ordinance of the City of

685
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:49,100
Edgewater, Florida, amending

686
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:50,100
Article 3, permitted

687
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,100
conditional accessory and

688
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,100
prohibited uses. Article 6

689
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:54,100
Sign Regulations, Article 20

690
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:56,100
Ridgewood Avenue Quarter

691
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:57,100
Design Regulations of Chapter

692
00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:59,100
21, Land Development Code

693
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:01,100
providing

694
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,100
for conflicting provision,

695
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:03,100
severability and applicability

696
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,100
providing for an effective date

697
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,100
adoption and codification.

698
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:06,100
>> Thank you. Staff report.

699
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:07,100
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This

700
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:08,100
is a second reading. There have

701
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:09,100
been no text amendments change

702
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,100
done

703
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:12,100
between the first and second.

704
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:13,100
Just to recap, this is changes

705
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,100
to Article 3, Article 6 and

706
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,100
Article 20 of the Land

707
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,100
Development Code to allow for

708
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,100
feather flags and the

709
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,100
freestanding banner sign per

710
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:22,100
business tax receipt in their

711
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:24,100
respective zoning districts.

712
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:25,100
Be happy

713
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,100
to answer any questions.

714
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,100
>> And let me just say, since

715
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:30,100
there's only three members

716
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:31,100
present tonight, the city

717
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:33,100
charter requires three votes to

718
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:34,100
pass an ordinance or

719
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,100
resolution. So your votes to

720
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:37,100
pass the ordinances and

721
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,100
resolutions

722
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,100
on the agenda only will need

723
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:42,100
to be unanimous tonight.

724
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,100
>> Thank you. Okay. Open a

725
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,100
public hearing. Citizens

726
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,100
Comments.

727
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,100
>> Council comments Ryan, I do

728
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,100
have a couple questions. Do we

729
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,100
have a restriction on how many

730
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,100
flags and banners if it passes,

731
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,100
can be for example

732
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,100
in a plaza, say there's 20

733
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,100
stores.

734
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:04,100
>> No. So you're allowed one

735
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,100
per business per each

736
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:07,100
of the types of these type

737
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,100
of temporary signs. They follow

738
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,100
the same regulations. You have

739
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,100
to bring it in when you're not

740
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,100
in hours operation. But no,

741
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:17,100
there's no beyond those hours

742
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:20,100
of operation. There's not a

743
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,100
spacing requirement or anything

744
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,100
of that nature.

745
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:25,100
>> Okay, that's, that's kind

746
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:26,100
of where I have the problem,

747
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:27,100
especially

748
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:28,100
with the banners. I went

749
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,100
down US one and just

750
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,100
for the bike week

751
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:32,100
on the right hand side in US

752
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:33,100
1, there was three banners kind

753
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:34,100
of just weirdly stuck in a,

754
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,100
in a, in a spot and,

755
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:38,100
and it didn't look very good.

756
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:39,100
Just

757
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,100
with poles. I'm thinking, oh,

758
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,100
gosh, I can't imagine, you

759
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,100
know, having multiple

760
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:45,100
businesses, especially

761
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:46,100
in a plaza, you know, having

762
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
the feather flags and then

763
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,100
having these,

764
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,100
these banners and going down

765
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:52,100
50, if you're going 55 or

766
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:53,100
whatever,

767
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,100
the speed limit might be 45.

768
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,100
You know,

769
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,100
how are the residents going

770
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:58,100
to be able to read all these

771
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,100
banners and all these specials

772
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,100
and see the feather flag that

773
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,100
might say coffee or donuts or

774
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,100
whatever? I don't know if it's

775
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,100
even going

776
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,100
to be a distraction. I'm just,

777
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,100
I'm so for the feather flags.

778
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:09,100
I'm not so much

779
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:10,100
for the banners. And I just

780
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,100
wanted to point that out. I

781
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,100
just think it's going

782
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:14,100
to be a cluster. If even half

783
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,100
of the businesses

784
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
in a strip mall decide

785
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,100
to take advantage of the

786
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:19,100
feather flag and the banner,

787
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:20,100
I think it's going to lose,

788
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,100
it's going to lose its power

789
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,100
because we're not, you know,

790
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:25,100
we're not going to be able to

791
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,100
read everything as we're going

792
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:28,100
down the road. So that's my,

793
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,100
that's my concern

794
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:31,100
with the banners.

795
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,100
>> We've talked

796
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,100
about this now three times,

797
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,100
gave updated,

798
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,100
gave a recommendation

799
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,100
at the council workshop. We've

800
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:39,100
had our first reading. I think

801
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:41,100
we've. So I'll talk about that

802
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:43,100
as concerns moving forward.

803
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,100
But I guess my comment

804
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,100
to that is, you know,

805
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:52,100
they clearly were not in code.

806
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,100
I think that not every business

807
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,100
is going to, just because

808
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:58,100
there's an ordinance

809
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,100
out there, choose to follow

810
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,100
that ordinance. I don't think

811
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,100
that everyone can. Is

812
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,100
necessarily going to do it all

813
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:07,100
at the same, same time. I,

814
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,100
I just don't think it's,

815
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:11,100
everyone's going to do it

816
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:13,100
at the same time. I, I think

817
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,100
that they should still have the

818
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:16,100
opportunity. Maybe I'll,

819
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:18,100
I'll counter with you. Or if

820
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,100
there's more than 15 units in,

821
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,100
in one plaza,

822
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:26,100
that they have the option

823
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:29,100
of one or the other. But I, I

824
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,100
don't, I don't, I don't think

825
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:32,100
that everybody is going

826
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,401
to utilize this ordinance.

827
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:36,100
>> And, and you might be right.

828
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,100
I'm just, I wanted

829
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:40,100
to put the what if? Because

830
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,100
once it's passed, it's going

831
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,100
to, it's going to, we'll need

832
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,100
another code enforcement person

833
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,100
just to enforce all the, all

834
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:46,100
the banners that are sideways.

835
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:47,100
And I don't know, I just, I

836
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,100
just, I just don't know that

837
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,100
having the banners and the

838
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,100
flags is what we need maybe.

839
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,100
And, or like you said, if

840
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:55,100
there's, if there's. Even so if

841
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,100
we have, you know, 20

842
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,100
businesses and even if 12

843
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,100
decide they want

844
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,100
to do the banners, I don't,

845
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:02,100
just don't know if people are

846
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,100
going to, if it's going

847
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,100
to do get the bang

848
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,100
for the buck. Because if people

849
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:08,100
aren't going to be able

850
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:09,100
to read, you know,

851
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,100
everything that might be

852
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,100
on a banner, a flag, it's fun,

853
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,100
you know,

854
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:15,100
it can say coffee or waffles

855
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,100
or, you know, whatever,

856
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:18,100
and people are going

857
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,100
to understand that. And you

858
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:21,100
could probably have, you know,

859
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,100
12 flags flying and it wouldn't

860
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,100
be as much of a distraction, I

861
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,100
think, as the big banners. And

862
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,100
when I saw the banners during

863
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,100
Bike Week, I thought

864
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,100
to myself, I said, oh gosh,

865
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,100
that's gonna look terrible if

866
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,100
we have half

867
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,100
of the people take advantage

868
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:36,100
of it. They were just two

869
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,100
by four stuck in the ground.

870
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:39,100
Nothing. It didn't look nice.

871
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:41,100
It wasn't appealing.

872
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:42,100
>> Well, we didn't have the

873
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,100
ordinance enacted.

874
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,100
>> Yes, they just did it.

875
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:46,100
But what is going to stop

876
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,100
someone once we pass this

877
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:49,100
ordinance if it passes for

878
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:50,100
Booth? Well, I'm just doing

879
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,100
that.

880
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:52,100
>> There's an ordinance

881
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,100
written. So that would,

882
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,100
that would have a code

883
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:56,100
to be enforced. Not just that

884
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:58,100
you can't have it. So I mean,

885
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,100
there would be rules and

886
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:01,100
regulations written

887
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,100
in stone.

888
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,100
>> Like the poles would be

889
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:05,100
painted or a certain size. I

890
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,100
mean, I don't know, just it was

891
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,100
thrown together quickly. And

892
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,100
you're right, it was. The code

893
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:09,100
wasn't. Or the ordinance wasn't

894
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,100
passed yet they were doing it,

895
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:12,100
which is fine. But I just,

896
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:14,100
I just looked at it, thought

897
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,100
just it didn't look good. It

898
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,100
wasn't appealing, it wasn't

899
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,100
classy, but it just looked

900
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:21,100
like it was just stuck out

901
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:23,100
there and hopefully people will

902
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:24,100
read it and come in. I don't

903
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:26,100
know, I just. It wasn't.

904
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,100
>> Well, how about, how about,

905
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,100
how about the recommend? Was.

906
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,100
Was it a homemade banner?

907
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,100
>> No, the banner was not

908
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:35,100
homemade. It was printed. It

909
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,100
was like you get

910
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,100
from a distributor, like, hey,

911
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,100
I need beer or wine or whatever

912
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,100
it might have said. So no,

913
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,100
it wasn't like hand campaign.

914
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,100
Okay.

915
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:45,100
>> I think also what some

916
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:46,100
of the people are putting out

917
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:47,100
for Bike Week

918
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:48,100
to last a week is not going

919
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,100
to be the same thing. Other

920
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:50,100
businesses are going

921
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,100
to be putting

922
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:52,100
out year long.

923
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,100
>> But I guess What I'm going

924
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,100
at is the look, not what the.

925
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:56,100
With the. The banner said, you

926
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:57,100
know,

927
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100
because it could say anything.

928
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,100
It's just how it looks.

929
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:00,100
>> So I guess my point was more

930
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,100
so. I mean, bike week is more

931
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,100
for somebody was like

932
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:03,100
installing that temporarily and

933
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,100
not as what they're using

934
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,100
to advertise

935
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:07,100
for their business

936
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,100
on a regular basis. So maybe it

937
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,100
was thrown

938
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:11,100
out haphazardly.

939
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,100
>> It was definitely, I guess

940
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,100
how would we be able to. Or

941
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,100
code enforcement had to say,

942
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,100
and once they start sticking

943
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,100
them up there, it's going

944
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,100
to be a busy job.

945
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:23,100
>> Well, they'd have

946
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,100
to follow the ordinance. And I

947
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,100
think our code enforcement

948
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,100
officers do a good job

949
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:30,100
at going around in the small

950
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:31,100
businesses and making sure that

951
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:33,100
every ordinance is inactive. I

952
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:34,100
know five he went

953
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,100
to this week and it's only.

954
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:37,100
Well, actually today it's only

955
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,100
Monday.

956
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,100
>> Do you think there would be

957
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,100
an issue

958
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:42,100
with the banners taking them

959
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:43,100
down every night? That's a lot

960
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,100
of work. A flag you can pull

961
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,100
out the ground and, you know,

962
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:46,100
put it inside the bag.

963
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:47,100
>> That's why I think not

964
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,100
everyone's going

965
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,100
to utilize it.

966
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:55,100
>> So we did the pilot program

967
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,100
before and it ran

968
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,100
for a while. You know, this

969
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,100
one, you could always schedule

970
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,100
a workshop

971
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,100
for a certain date. Right. And

972
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:06,100
that way then it's

973
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:07,100
on the books for a workshop.

974
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,100
And then if there's issues

975
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:11,100
at that time, then you can have

976
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,100
the workshop and discuss it

977
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,100
again.

978
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,100
>> And then what we were saying

979
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,100
is if this passes tonight and

980
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,100
goes forward and then we start

981
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:20,100
having issues and, you know,

982
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,100
we're not happy

983
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:23,100
with how the city looks going

984
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,100
down us one, not

985
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,100
like a circus. We could say,

986
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,100
okay, we need to workshop this

987
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:28,100
and maybe tweak it. And it's a

988
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:29,100
possibility.

989
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,100
>> Yeah. And it takes what's

990
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,100
two meetings,

991
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,100
two council meetings a month.

992
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,100
Takes about two months

993
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,100
to get an ordinance passed now,

994
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,100
so before it was three

995
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,100
to four. So, you know, it's a

996
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,100
little bit quicker than it was

997
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:42,100
the last time.

998
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,100
>> Well, I'm willing,

999
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,100
especially if we can go back if

1000
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:46,100
we're not happy

1001
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:47,100
with it. I just wanted to put

1002
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,100
out there that I wasn't

1003
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,100
comfortable with both flags and

1004
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:52,100
banners. I just thought one or

1005
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:53,100
the other would be great.

1006
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,100
But I, you know,

1007
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,100
having both sides

1008
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,100
of the street lined up

1009
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,100
with things, it could be

1010
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,100
distracting and the business

1011
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,100
might not get what they are

1012
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,100
wanting to get out of it.

1013
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,100
>> Do you have a number, and

1014
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,100
probably, Bridget, about

1015
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,100
approximately how many small

1016
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:11,100
businesses or businesses

1017
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,100
in general we have in the city

1018
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:13,100
of Edgewater

1019
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,100
on the commercial.

1020
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,100
>> Front, I want to say,

1021
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,100
I want to say 1200.

1022
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,100
>> 1200, yeah. That's

1023
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,100
businesses total or just

1024
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100
on the commercial?

1025
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,100
>> That would be businesses

1026
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,100
total. In and

1027
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,100
around that number.

1028
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,100
>> Great. That's expanded

1029
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:35,100
since 2022. That's wonderful.

1030
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:38,100
And even last year.

1031
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,100
>> Okay. So are there any

1032
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,401
further comments or questions?

1033
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:48,100
>> I have one more question.

1034
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,100
So, would council be willing

1035
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:53,100
to get going on the flags,

1036
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,100
get that passed and then,

1037
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,100
and then visit the banners

1038
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,100
after like six months,

1039
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,100
see how the flags take

1040
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,100
off and see what it does? The

1041
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,100
businesses may be happy, you

1042
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,100
know, with the flags the way

1043
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:07,100
they are, and we can visit the

1044
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,100
banners another time.

1045
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,100
>> I just. Why don't we make

1046
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:10,100
the suggestion

1047
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:11,100
to take table then? Because I

1048
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,100
think that there's a couple

1049
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,100
questions, but I mean, I, I, I

1050
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:15,100
think that it should be left up

1051
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:17,401
to the business owner

1052
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,100
to decide. If you want to. I

1053
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,100
just think maybe we could table

1054
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,100
it

1055
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,100
for further discussion.

1056
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,100
>> Okay. And, and,

1057
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:30,100
or one or the other. I just,

1058
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:31,100
and then if it's a plaza, I

1059
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:32,100
don't know how we could put a

1060
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,100
limit. Like you said,

1061
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:35,100
most not going to be 20 units,

1062
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,100
20 flags, 20 banners.

1063
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,100
>> But you have to keep

1064
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:39,100
in mind that the, the city is

1065
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,100
issuing the permits. So if we

1066
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:43,100
want to limit anything where we

1067
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:45,100
can workshop it as well.

1068
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:47,100
>> Would you be willing

1069
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,100
to move forward

1070
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,100
with it and then revisit it

1071
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:52,100
in so many months

1072
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:53,100
like we did the prior time

1073
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,100
to see how it looks?

1074
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,100
>> Yes, I would be good with

1075
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,100
that.

1076
00:34:58,100 --> 00:34:59,100
>> I make a motion that we

1077
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,100
adopt. Hold on. I know. I got

1078
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,100
it. I'm going to make the

1079
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,401
suggestion that somebody makes

1080
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:07,100
a motion that we approve this

1081
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,401
ordinance with a workshop

1082
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:14,100
of a period of six months. Is

1083
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,401
there consensus for that?

1084
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,100
>> Yes.

1085
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,100
>> I make a motion to approve

1086
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,100
the second reading

1087
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:27,100
of ordinance number 222505 with

1088
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:30,601
the consensus that we will have

1089
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,100
a workshop in six months.

1090
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,100
>> Second

1091
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,100
>> Roll call.

1092
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,100
>> [CALLING ROLL]

1093
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,401
>> Item 8C, second reading

1094
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,100
order, summer 2025 06, request

1095
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,100
to amend the Florida Shores

1096
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
Drainage Basin building permit

1097
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,100
moratorium. Please read

1098
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,100
into the Record Ordinance

1099
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,100
Number.

1100
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,100
>> 2025 006, an ordinance

1101
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,100
of the City of Edgewater

1102
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:57,100
Amending Ordinance 2024063 to

1103
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:58,100
limit the temporary moratorium

1104
00:35:58,100 --> 00:35:59,100
to building permits that

1105
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100
increase the amount

1106
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
of fill dirt on parcels

1107
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,100
within the Florida short

1108
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,100
drainage basin for a period

1109
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,100
ending no later than January

1110
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:08,100
5, 2026, unless rescinded or

1111
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:09,100
extended

1112
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,100
by a subsequent ordinance.

1113
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,100
Providing procedures

1114
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,100
for vested rights review for

1115
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,100
the specific matters addressed

1116
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:16,100
herein. Providing

1117
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,100
for conflicting ordinances,

1118
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,100
providing for severability,

1119
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:20,100
providing an effective date.

1120
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,100
>> Please Stand staff report

1121
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,100
thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is a

1122
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,100
second reading. This does have

1123
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,100
a text amendment change

1124
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,100
between the first and second

1125
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:29,100
City staff erred

1126
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:31,100
in the first submittal

1127
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:34,100
with the exclusion of pools

1128
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,100
which was added back in. So no

1129
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,100
pool shall be permitted was

1130
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,100
added into section 2 of the

1131
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:42,100
moratorium which is really the

1132
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,100
teeth of the moratorium

1133
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,100
in addition to no import

1134
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:50,100
of filter.

1135
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:51,100
>> Thank you, sir. Open a

1136
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:53,100
public hearing Citizens

1137
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,100
Comments.

1138
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,100
>> Agnes Witter 223 Flagler

1139
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,601
Avenue. I know you want to

1140
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:20,100
change the moratorium and just

1141
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:24,100
go to no fill being brought in

1142
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:26,100
from onto a property and using

1143
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,401
fill from the property.

1144
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,100
But even if you just use fill

1145
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:33,100
from the property,

1146
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,100
if you're taking from the back

1147
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,100
to raise the front and and you

1148
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:39,401
raise it up higher,

1149
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,100
it's still going to be a runoff

1150
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,100
problem because you're adding

1151
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,100
more buildings. So you're

1152
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,100
covering more

1153
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,100
of edgewater up,

1154
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,100
which is going to cause a

1155
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,401
little higher flooding level.

1156
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,100
And what you really should be

1157
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:03,100
doing is making a code now that

1158
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,401
takes into consideration what

1159
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,100
you're going to face in the

1160
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,601
future and can you afford more

1161
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,100
fixing of a flooding problem

1162
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:15,100
when you're going through all

1163
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,100
of this now, you've got to

1164
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,100
spend all this money now and

1165
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,000
there's no, there's no fun and

1166
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,100
there's no future and having

1167
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,100
to just look

1168
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,100
at more flooding fixtures

1169
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,100
in the future. Raise your

1170
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:27,100
houses 36 inches up

1171
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,601
above the center of the road.

1172
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:35,601
Put them on pillars or cement

1173
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,100
block foundations

1174
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:43,100
with openings for water flow

1175
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:45,100
to go through. You can also

1176
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,100
have permeable concrete

1177
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,100
for your patios, your porches,

1178
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,100
your outdoor porches,

1179
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:04,100
your dock areas or your,

1180
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,100
your pool decks, sidewalks,

1181
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,100
anything that doesn't carry a

1182
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,100
lot of weight,

1183
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,100
you can use your permeable

1184
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,100
cement, which will provide you

1185
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,100
better water distribution.

1186
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:16,100
There's a lot of things that

1187
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:18,100
you can do and not have

1188
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:20,100
to say, okay, we got

1189
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,100
to stop building because we got

1190
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,100
to look

1191
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,100
at this water problem and

1192
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,100
figure out what we're going

1193
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:27,100
to do with it. If you did

1194
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,401
something like this now

1195
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,100
to prevent more flooding for

1196
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,100
all your new buildings that

1197
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,100
you're going to be.

1198
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,100
>> Putting up your residential

1199
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,100
buildings and you won't have

1200
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:39,100
to worry about the future. So

1201
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:40,100
it's something to consider. If

1202
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,100
you put yourself

1203
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:44,100
into a place where you're going

1204
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,100
to look in the future to fixing

1205
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,100
more flooding problems,

1206
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:53,100
you're going to run out

1207
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,100
of money because we are going

1208
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:55,100
to run out

1209
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:56,100
of money and that's a problem.

1210
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,100
We don't want to have to pay

1211
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,100
for any more remediation

1212
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:00,100
of flooding problems. Low.

1213
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:01,100
Let's take the steps right now

1214
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:03,100
to do it the right way. Thank

1215
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:05,100
you.

1216
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,100
>> Thank you for your comments

1217
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,100
and suggestions. It's

1218
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,100
appreciated.

1219
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:17,100
>> Chuck Martin 205 Cherry

1220
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:20,100
Wood Lane, Edgewater this funny

1221
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100
thing is this all brings back

1222
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,100
memories from a while back, I

1223
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,401
think another subdivision was

1224
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,100
going in off of Air Park Road

1225
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,100
and the only question I had was

1226
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,100
are you going

1227
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,100
to hold your own water? And

1228
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:37,100
then one of the engineers or

1229
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,100
somebody got up and said

1230
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:40,100
something real fast. Oh yeah,

1231
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,100
we've met all her whatever.

1232
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,100
And then there's actually a

1233
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,100
video put out of water running

1234
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:48,100
out of that subdivision going

1235
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:49,100
into people's houses on Air

1236
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:52,100
Park Road as I was asking that

1237
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,100
same question.

1238
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:56,100
But I guess my point is here,

1239
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:57,100
kind of

1240
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,100
like these big subdivisions

1241
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,100
like Oakley Preserve, they

1242
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,100
didn't bring any fill

1243
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,100
in there. They just dug a big

1244
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,100
hole, built it way up high and

1245
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,100
then, well,

1246
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,100
you know what happened

1247
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,100
over there. So is this going

1248
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,100
to apply to just like single

1249
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:13,100
family homes or if they want to

1250
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,100
annex and build another

1251
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:15,100
subdivision,

1252
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,100
can they dig a big lake? And

1253
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,100
then that's kind

1254
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,100
of what I was wondering.

1255
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,100
>> Thank you

1256
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,100
for your questions. This is

1257
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,100
just related to the Forest

1258
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:26,100
Shores drainage basin.

1259
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,100
>> So is that

1260
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:28,100
like single family homes

1261
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:29,100
in that area?

1262
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,100
>> Correct.

1263
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:31,100
>> Wouldn't be a subdivision.

1264
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,100
>> Correct. And that question

1265
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:34,100
will be asked after this.

1266
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,100
>> Yeah. And so then that is

1267
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,100
kind

1268
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:37,100
of a good idea because if they,

1269
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:40,100
if they dig a hole in the back

1270
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,100
and then that gives a place

1271
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,100
for water to go and then if

1272
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:44,100
they take that fill and they

1273
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,100
put it and raise their house up

1274
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,100
a little bit,

1275
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
at least they're holding some

1276
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,100
of their water. That's kind

1277
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,100
of the way I see it.

1278
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:56,100
But yeah, if they're. But stem

1279
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:59,100
walls are good too. I know Rob

1280
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,100
had mentioned that before,

1281
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:02,100
but if they dig retention

1282
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:03,100
in the back,

1283
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:04,100
I think that's what a lot

1284
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:05,100
of people are after. If they

1285
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:06,100
can, you know, kind

1286
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:07,100
of hold some

1287
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:08,100
of their own water.

1288
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,100
>> Dan Knight2290 Elegant

1289
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,100
Manor I apologize for my breach

1290
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:21,100
and protocol earlier. This

1291
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:22,100
relates

1292
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,100
to that section two comment,

1293
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:25,100
no pools permitted. Those five

1294
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:26,100
little words that seem to have

1295
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,100
been added back in. I'm just

1296
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:31,100
kind of curious and something

1297
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:32,100
to contemplate. How is a 1500

1298
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:35,100
square foot pool and patio

1299
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:36,100
different than a 1500 square

1300
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:37,100
foot detached garage? Both are

1301
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:39,100
relatively impervious. Yet

1302
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,100
under this current ordinance, I

1303
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,100
think that the detached garage

1304
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:44,100
could be approved,

1305
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,100
whereas a pool cannot. And

1306
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:47,100
that's a little concerning for

1307
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,100
me considering the pool itself

1308
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,100
can hold another 6 to 8 inches

1309
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,401
of rainwater potentially. And

1310
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:55,100
yet the detached garage could

1311
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:57,100
get a get approved, I believe

1312
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,100
as written. I think it does

1313
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,100
open the city up to litigation.

1314
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:03,100
I suggest speaking

1315
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,100
to the city, the city's legal

1316
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:07,100
counsel, get their opinion as

1317
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,100
well as speaking as subject

1318
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:10,100
matter experts that you guys

1319
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,100
have hired and that who do work

1320
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:13,100
here just to make sure you get

1321
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,100
their opinion

1322
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:16,100
before you attempt to pass this

1323
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:19,100
as it's written. I think if you

1324
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,100
cannot differentiate between

1325
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,100
the pool and the garage itself

1326
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,100
as both being impervious, then

1327
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,100
I think you run that

1328
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:26,100
possibility

1329
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:29,100
of this running a foul,

1330
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:31,100
getting you guys in trouble,

1331
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:32,100
that litigation. And I don't

1332
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:34,100
think you could pass it as

1333
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:35,100
written based off that. Thank

1334
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,100
you.

1335
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:40,100
>> Thank you for your comments.

1336
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:43,100
>> Good evening. My name is

1337
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:51,100
Billy Dove. I'm an attorney

1338
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:52,100
with Gray Robinson. I'm here

1339
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:54,100
on behalf of the Edgewater

1340
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,100
Preserve development. I just

1341
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,100
want to briefly address this

1342
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,100
proposed amended moratorium.

1343
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:01,100
While we believe it's

1344
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:02,100
appropriate to lift the burden

1345
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:03,100
on property owners that was

1346
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,100
created by the original

1347
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,100
moratorium's wholesale ban

1348
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:07,100
on any building permits, we

1349
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,100
also believe that any

1350
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,100
moratorium in this area,

1351
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:11,100
including the revised proposal,

1352
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,100
is an inappropriate way

1353
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:13,100
for the city

1354
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:15,100
to deflect responsibility

1355
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:16,100
for preventing flooding. It

1356
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:17,100
should also be noted that the

1357
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,100
original. The original

1358
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,100
moratorium imposed a

1359
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:23,100
requirement on the city

1360
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:24,100
to repair,

1361
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:25,100
maintain and improve ditches,

1362
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:26,100
canals and stormwater systems

1363
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,100
while the moratorium was

1364
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,100
pending. The amended moratorium

1365
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:31,100
removes that requirement,

1366
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,100
eliminating the city's

1367
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,100
responsibility to undertake

1368
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,100
badly needed maintenance and

1369
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:37,100
repairs to their own systems

1370
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:39,100
in the Florida shores. To add

1371
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:40,100
to this, we're aware that a

1372
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,100
complaint has been made to the

1373
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,100
FDP alleging that approximately

1374
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,100
60 of the city's intake drains

1375
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,100
have been altered and currently

1376
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,100
do not operate as designed.

1377
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:50,100
Basically, the city's own

1378
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:52,100
systems are failing and the

1379
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:53,100
moratorium has only scapegoated

1380
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:54,100
the Edgewater Preserve

1381
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,100
development. The pond

1382
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,100
on the north edge of the

1383
00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:59,100
Edgewater Preserve has now been

1384
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:01,100
stabilized and is operational.

1385
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:02,100
When the unfortunate storms

1386
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:04,100
took place last September, this

1387
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:06,100
wasn't the case as the ponds

1388
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:07,100
had only been partially

1389
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:08,100
constructed and not yet

1390
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:11,100
stabilized. The recitals in the

1391
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:12,100
moratorium reference flooding

1392
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,100
in the Florida shores in

1393
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:15,100
Hurricane Ian 2022 and that was

1394
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,100
long before any site work had

1395
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,401
taken place on Edgewater

1396
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,100
Preserve. Phase 2. The area

1397
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,100
recently experienced increased

1398
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,100
rainfall on March 10th and

1399
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:26,100
there were no issues

1400
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,401
with the stormwater systems

1401
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,100
at Edgewater Preserve.

1402
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:32,100
In addition, Edgewater has

1403
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,100
submitted vested rights letters

1404
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,100
for each phase

1405
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:37,100
of their development on

1406
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:38,100
February 5 and has yet

1407
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:40,100
to receive any response from

1408
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:41,100
the city. I would ask the

1409
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:42,100
council or member

1410
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:43,100
of your staff, will the city

1411
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,100
require, if this moratorium is

1412
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,100
to be passed, will the city

1413
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,100
require that new vested rights

1414
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,100
applications be submitted or

1415
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:50,100
will the admit the existing

1416
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:52,100
applications be sufficient

1417
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,100
under this moratorium as well?

1418
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:55,100
>> Thank you, sir,

1419
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,100
for your comments.

1420
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,100
>> It's appreciated. Okay. Is

1421
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,100
there. Do you understand? Do

1422
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:01,100
you have an idea of how you'll

1423
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:03,100
handle the vested rights

1424
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:04,100
application?

1425
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:05,100
>> Thank you, sir,

1426
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:06,100
for your comments. It's

1427
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:07,100
appreciated.

1428
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,100
>> All right,

1429
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:14,100
we'll follow up.

1430
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:15,100
>> Thank you.

1431
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,100
>> Good Evening, Eric

1432
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:17,100
Rainbird, 118 San Remo Drive,

1433
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:18,100
Edgewater. What that guy just

1434
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,100
said is exactly what we might

1435
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:22,100
need to change to make them

1436
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:24,401
build the retention ponds

1437
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,100
first. Then we watch how they

1438
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:30,601
do. Then you let them build.

1439
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:37,100
>> See no further. Citizens

1440
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,100
comments. Council comments.

1441
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:44,100
>> I wanted to bring that pool

1442
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,100
subject up tonight. I wanted

1443
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,100
to discuss with council. Your

1444
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:50,100
thoughts are excluding.

1445
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:51,100
Excluding it so the pools can

1446
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:53,100
be built

1447
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:54,100
during the moratorium. The

1448
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:56,100
gentleman made a great point.

1449
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:57,100
And I've.

1450
00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:58,100
Since our last meeting,

1451
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:59,100
I've had a few residents reach

1452
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,100
out to me who had pulled.

1453
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:02,100
Tried to pull the pool permits

1454
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:04,100
and were not able to. And they

1455
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:05,100
were confused as to why,

1456
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,100
like a detached garage,

1457
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,100
we're going to allow a pool

1458
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,100
that takes up maybe less space

1459
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:11,100
in the garage. We are allowing.

1460
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,100
So I wanted

1461
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:15,100
to have that discussion tonight

1462
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:17,100
to see if we could remove.

1463
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,100
>> The pools

1464
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,401
from the moratorium as

1465
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,100
of right now. If they tried

1466
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,100
to pull it, it would be denied

1467
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,100
either way because it's still

1468
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,100
banned

1469
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:30,100
from the original moratorium.

1470
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:31,100
So if they would have applied

1471
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,100
any point in time

1472
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,100
until a new one changes, they

1473
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:35,100
would still have not been able

1474
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:37,100
to do it.

1475
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:38,100
>> And that's. But that's a.

1476
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:39,100
It's a problem and it could be

1477
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:40,100
a legal problem as well. And I

1478
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:42,100
talked to Ryan about that. And

1479
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:43,100
as the moratorium stands today

1480
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:44,100
with the pools in may not stand

1481
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,100
up.

1482
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,100
>> City attorney.

1483
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:49,100
>> Yeah, there's a. There is a

1484
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,100
risk that it be challenged

1485
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,100
for the. You know,

1486
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,100
anytime you make an exception

1487
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,100
like that,

1488
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,100
there's a possibility of a,

1489
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,100
perhaps an equal protection

1490
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:02,401
challenge, that you're not

1491
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,401
treating people equally. The

1492
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:08,100
example was the shed. So there,

1493
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,100
there is that risk that there

1494
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:12,100
could be challenge or

1495
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:14,100
litigation leading

1496
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,100
to that.

1497
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:17,100
>> It would have been great

1498
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:19,100
to have that council

1499
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:21,100
before this meeting. Meeting.

1500
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,100
Well, then I make a motion that

1501
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:25,100
we. Or suggest a motion that we

1502
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:28,100
table this until the next

1503
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,100
council meeting.

1504
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,100
>> I will make a motion to

1505
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:35,100
table a second reading because

1506
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,100
I would also like

1507
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:42,100
to have a full council

1508
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:44,100
for this discussion. If moving

1509
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,100
forward, I make a motion

1510
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:48,100
to table the second reading

1511
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:50,100
of ordinance number 2025 06.

1512
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:52,100
>> Second

1513
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,100
>> Roll call.

1514
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,100
>> [CALLING ROLL]

1515
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,100
>> Item 8D,

1516
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,100
first reading order.

1517
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,100
>> Sorry, Mr. Can I get some

1518
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,100
direction.

1519
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,100
>> On what you want me to

1520
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:14,100
change? I think that the

1521
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:15,100
suggestion now is just

1522
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:17,100
to table the discussion until

1523
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:19,100
we have a full council and

1524
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,100
consult with our attorney.

1525
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:23,100
Okay. I don't think that we

1526
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:24,100
need to make any immediate

1527
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:26,100
changes. I think it's just

1528
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,100
tabled for discussion. Okay.

1529
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,100
Thank you. Thank you, Mr.

1530
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:33,100
Solstice. Item 8D was. I

1531
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:35,401
corrected that. I apologize.

1532
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,100
Okay. Item 8D. First reading.

1533
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,100
Ordinance number 2025 01,

1534
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,100
amending the restraining the

1535
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,401
police officer's pension plan.

1536
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,100
Please read

1537
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:48,100
into the record or in.

1538
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:49,100
>> Summer 2025 001, an

1539
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:51,100
ordinance to the City council

1540
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,100
of Edgewater, Florida repealing

1541
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:54,100
Ordinance 2016 O34

1542
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:56,100
in its entirety and amending,

1543
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:57,100
restating and adopting the city

1544
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:58,100
of Edgewater Florida police

1545
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:00,100
officers pension planning

1546
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:01,100
for filing with the division

1547
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:02,100
of retirement at the Florida

1548
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,100
Department of Management.

1549
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,100
Services provided

1550
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:06,100
for conflicting provisions

1551
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:07,100
front

1552
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:08,100
for cyber building and

1553
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:09,100
providing

1554
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:10,100
for an effective date.

1555
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:11,100
>> Staff report.

1556
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:12,100
>> City Council adopted

1557
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,100
Ordinance 2016034 on November

1558
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,100
14, 2016, which amended and

1559
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:19,401
restated the Edgewater Police

1560
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,100
officers pension Plan.

1561
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:25,100
Subsequently, Ordinance

1562
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,100
20170221 2220-2003-3202-2018

1563
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,401
2320-2301-0202-3023 and

1564
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,100
2024035 were adopted amending

1565
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:51,100
various sections of the police

1566
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:53,100
officer's pension plan.

1567
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,100
Ordinance 202501 is

1568
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:57,100
incorporation

1569
00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:59,100
of all pension amendments

1570
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:02,100
into a restated plan. We're

1571
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,100
requesting a motion

1572
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,100
to approve ordinance 2025 01.

1573
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:13,100
>> Thank you, sir. Open a

1574
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:15,100
public hearing. Citizens

1575
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,100
comments. Council comments.

1576
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:20,401
The great Police Department.

1577
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,100
Is there a motion

1578
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,100
to approve?

1579
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:26,100
>> Make a motion

1580
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:27,100
to approve the first reading

1581
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,100
of ordinance number 2025 01,

1582
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:31,100
amending and restating the

1583
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:32,100
police officer's pension plan.

1584
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,100
>> Second

1585
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,100
roll call.

1586
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,100
>> [CALLING ROLL]

1587
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,100
>> Item AD 2025 R05, approving

1588
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,100
the locally funded agreement

1589
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:47,100
LFA between the city of

1590
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:48,100
Edgewater and the Florida

1591
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:50,100
Department of Transportation

1592
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:51,100
FDOT

1593
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:52,100
for the emergency traffic

1594
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:55,100
signal at Fire Station 55 FPN

1595
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:57,100
Number 4534-722-6202.

1596
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,401
>> Please read into the

1597
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:04,100
Record Resolution Number 2024

1598
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:06,100
R05 a resolution of the City

1599
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:07,100
Council but the City of

1600
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:09,100
Edgewater, Florida to sign a

1601
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:10,100
locally funded agreement LFA

1602
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:11,100
with the Florida Department

1603
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,100
of Transportation FDA

1604
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:14,100
to provide a lump sum deposit

1605
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:16,100
in the amount of $22,337

1606
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,100
to support the Construction,

1607
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:18,100
Engineering, Inspection CEI

1608
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:19,100
of the installation

1609
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:20,100
of the emergency traffic signal

1610
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,100
in front of the fire station.

1611
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:23,100
55 Repealing resolutions

1612
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:24,100
of conflict here

1613
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:26,100
with providing

1614
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:27,100
for severability and for

1615
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,100
establishing an effective date.

1616
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:29,100
>> Thank you.

1617
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,100
>> Staff Report the FDOT has

1618
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:32,100
requested the City of

1619
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:33,100
Edgewater to execute the

1620
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:35,100
locally funded agreement

1621
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,100
for project number 400534722

1622
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:44,100
62.

1623
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:46,100
For the Florida Department of

1624
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:47,100
Transportation

1625
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,100
to provide a lump sum deposit

1626
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:51,100
for construction, engineering

1627
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:52,100
and inspections or CEI services

1628
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:54,100
for the installation

1629
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:56,100
of the emergency traffic signal

1630
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,100
in front of Fire Station 55.

1631
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,100
We're asking

1632
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:03,100
for motion and approval

1633
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,100
for the city of Edgewater to

1634
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,100
execute a local funding

1635
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
agreement

1636
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:09,100
for the emergency traffic

1637
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:11,100
signal at Fire Station 55.

1638
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,100
>> Thank you. Open a public

1639
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,100
hearing. Citizens Comments.

1640
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:17,100
>> Chuck Martin, 2 of 5

1641
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:26,100
Cherrywood Lane as a crane

1642
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,100
operator that's. Every

1643
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:35,100
hurricane out of town.

1644
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:36,100
Assistant Florida Power

1645
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:38,100
Enlighten several other

1646
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,100
companies

1647
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,100
with power restoration

1648
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:44,100
over the last 20 years and

1649
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:45,100
traveling all over the state

1650
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:48,100
of Florida last 30 years. I

1651
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:52,201
think I can tell you that I

1652
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:54,100
can't think of any other cities

1653
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,100
or anybody our size that

1654
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:59,100
doesn't have a emergency light

1655
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:01,000
for our fire department

1656
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,100
to get out. And I've seen it

1657
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:04,100
several times when they've

1658
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:06,100
tried to get

1659
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:07,100
out there and they got

1660
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:08,100
to wait. So this is great. I

1661
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:10,100
know you guys are going

1662
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:11,100
to prove it. Anyways, I just

1663
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:13,100
wanted to say that it's great

1664
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,100
and it's much,

1665
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:18,601
much needed here. I just want

1666
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:24,100
to thank you, Mayor, for. I

1667
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:26,100
know you've been working behind

1668
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:29,100
the scenes putting this forth

1669
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:30,100
and it's taken a long time

1670
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,100
to get here and. And I just

1671
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:33,100
want

1672
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:35,100
to thank everybody up there

1673
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:36,100
for. For making this happen.

1674
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:38,100
It's taken a long time. Every

1675
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:40,100
one of you, all of you,

1676
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:42,100
thank you.

1677
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:44,100
>> Thank you, sir,

1678
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:46,401
for your comments. Council

1679
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:53,100
comments. I just want to say

1680
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:55,100
that this has been long

1681
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,100
overdue. It's been talked

1682
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,100
about, I think, ever since I

1683
00:54:58,100 --> 00:54:59,100
was elected and I've been in

1684
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,100
Jeff's office

1685
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:02,100
before and I'll go. You hear

1686
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,100
that? It'll be someone

1687
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,100
screeching on their brakes as

1688
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:07,100
the ambulance is trying

1689
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:08,100
to get out. So great job

1690
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:09,100
between our both city managers,

1691
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:11,100
our grants department Chief

1692
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:12,100
larosy for making this come to

1693
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:14,100
fruition and our finance

1694
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,100
department. It takes a team and

1695
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:17,100
a team was together

1696
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:19,100
to get this established. As the

1697
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:20,100
citizen said tonight,

1698
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:22,100
there's been public support

1699
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,100
for this reunion years. We have

1700
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:25,100
a tremendous police and fire

1701
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,100
department and all the

1702
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:29,100
collaboration that come

1703
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:30,100
together for this project has

1704
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:32,100
been tremendous,

1705
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:34,100
long overdue. Thank you

1706
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:35,100
to the Grants department,

1707
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:37,100
Chief Literacy and city

1708
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:38,100
management. Is there a motion

1709
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,100
to approve?

1710
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:42,100
>> Make a motion to approve

1711
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:43,100
2025 R05 approving locally

1712
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:45,100
funded agreement

1713
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:47,100
between the city of Edgewater

1714
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,100
and the Florida Department of

1715
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:50,100
Treasury Transportation

1716
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,100
for the emergency traffic

1717
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:52,100
signal at the Fire Station

1718
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:54,100
55.

1719
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:55,100
>> Second

1720
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:56,100
>> Roll call.

1721
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,100
>> [CALLING ROLL]

1722
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:01,401
>> Item 8F, Resolution 2025 R06

1723
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:07,401
approving the Local Agency

1724
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:14,100
Program LAP between City of

1725
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:15,100
Edgewater and the Florida

1726
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:17,100
Department of Transportation

1727
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:18,100
FDOT for the Emergency

1728
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,100
Traffic Signal Fire Station 55

1729
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,401
FPN Number 4534-721-5801.

1730
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:25,401
>> Please read into the

1731
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:31,100
Record Resolution Number 2025

1732
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:32,100
R06, a resolution of the City

1733
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:34,100
Council of the City of

1734
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Edgewater, Florida authorizing

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the City Manager to enter into

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and execute a local agency

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program agreement with the

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State of Florida Department

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00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,100
of Transportation concerning

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00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:43,100
the installation

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00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,100
of an emergency traffic signal

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00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:45,100
in front of Fire Station 55.

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Repealing resolutions

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00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:48,100
of conflict here with provided

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00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,100
for severability and

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00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:50,100
applicability and establishing

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an effective date.

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00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,100
>> Thank you.

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00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,100
>> Staff Report the FTT has

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00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,100
requested the City of

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00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:55,100
Edgewater to execute the local

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00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:56,100
agency program agreement

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00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,100
for project number 453-472158

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00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:01,100
for the design and installation

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00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:10,100
of the emergency signals

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00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:12,100
in front of Fire Station 55.

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00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:14,100
The estimated cost

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00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:19,401
of the project is 558,837

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00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:22,100
with the city agreeing

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00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,100
to participate

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00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:26,100
in the project cost up

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00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:29,100
to the maximum amount of

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00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:34,401
$265,940. The city has already

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00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:39,100
contributed 127,135 towards the

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00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:42,100
maximum city cost towards its

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00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:44,100
project.

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For the design work required

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00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:47,100
by FDOT. We are requesting a

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00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:49,401
motion and approval of

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Resolution 2025 RO6

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to execute the Local Agency

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Program Agreement for Project

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4 emergency traffic signal at

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Fire Station 55.

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>> Thank you sir. Open a public

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hearing. Citizens Comments

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Council comments Is there a

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motion

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to approve? I make our motion

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to Approve resolution number

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00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:20,100
2025 R06 approving the local

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agency program between the

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City of Edgewater and the the

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Florida Department of

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Transportation

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for the emergency traffic

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signal at Fire Station 55.

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>>Second

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>> Roll call

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>> [CALLING ROLL]

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>> Yes. Item

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10 Other business Item 10 A

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whistle stop park easement

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request

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from FPL FPL staff report

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Florida Power and Light.

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>> Is proposing an easement

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path to bury a primary power

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00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:52,601
line and place a pad mounted

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00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:57,100
transformer as a part of their

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00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,100
secure underground program.

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00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:02,100
They are proposing a 10 foot

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strip easement be placed

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along the western property line

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of Whistle stop Park totaling

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10 foot by 960 foot easement.

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Two pad mounted transformers

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will be placed with

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within the strip for the

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replacement overhead power

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overhead pole mounted

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transformers on the property.

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They are designed to be placed

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in the same vicinity as the

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existing poles. Since the

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city's meters are existing

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underground for these points,

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they will be reconnected

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to the new underground service

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during construction structure.

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We're requesting approval

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of FPL's request for easement

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00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:49,401
at Whistle Stop Park.

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>> Thank you. Citizens.

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Comments Council Comments. Is

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there a motion to approve.

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Make a motion to approve

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Whistle Stop park easement

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01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:01,100
request from FPL.

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>> Second

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>> Roll call

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[CALLING ROLL]

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>> Item 10B, FP2401 Request

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for final plat approval for

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Smyrna Creek Preserve, a 78 lot

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residential subdivision. Staff

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report.

1838
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:21,100
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The

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01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:25,100
request before you is

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to approve the final plat for

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01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:27,100
Smyrna Creek Preserve, a 78 lot

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01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:29,100
residential subdivision.

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01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,100
Smyrna Creek Preserve is

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01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:33,100
located off of old Mission

1845
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:35,100
Road. It 21.49 plus or minus

1846
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:37,100
acres. The preliminary plat was

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01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:39,100
approved on November 6, 2023

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01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:41,100
by the City Council. The

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01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,100
applicant first submitted

1850
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:45,100
for final plat on June 21st

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01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:47,100
of 2024. Subsequent reviews

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01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:49,100
have taken place and the

1853
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,100
technical review committee has

1854
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:53,100
reviewed the following final

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01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:54,100
plat and has found that the

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01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,100
development meets the

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01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:57,100
requirements

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01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:58,100
of the preliminary plat, the

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01:00:58,100 --> 01:00:59,100
Land Development Code and the

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Residential Planned Unit

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Development Agreement

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for the subject property. Just

1863
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:04,100
again, the final plot is the

1864
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second step

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in the process process

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of subdividing land

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01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:09,100
into separate parcels

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for future sale or lease. Once

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01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:12,100
a preliminary plot has been

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01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,100
approved, the final plot

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01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:15,100
process can begin. And this is

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01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:18,601
the subject site. You can see

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01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:23,100
on the screen. The Total

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acreage is 21.49 acres. 15,

1875
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:29,100
15.6 or so are

1876
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:36,100
in open space and that is a 3

1877
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,100
acre water retention pond. You

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have the conservation track in

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01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:42,100
the southeastern portion where

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they preserved all the wetlands

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01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:46,100
as well as landscape buffers

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01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:49,601
and so forth. The original pud

1883
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:53,100
did call for 168 units. After

1884
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:56,100
meeting our stormwater code,

1885
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:59,100
they were left with about 78

1886
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units

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on the subject property.

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>> Thank you. Applicant

1889
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Presentation comments.

1890
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:18,100
>> Good evening everybody. My

1891
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:20,100
name is Matt Stoles with Dr.

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Horton, 10192 down road. You

1893
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:24,100
know, I'm just really here to

1894
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:25,100
address any comments or any

1895
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:27,401
questions that anyone has.

1896
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:30,100
We've worked pretty hard

1897
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:32,100
to meet with the everyone

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01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:33,100
with the city to address any

1899
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:35,100
comments or concerns that

1900
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:36,100
anybody has. There's nothing

1901
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:37,100
really that I've heard or

1902
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:39,100
anyone has any reservations

1903
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:40,100
with that we're aware of.

1904
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:41,100
But we'd like the opportunity

1905
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:43,100
to respond if anything does

1906
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:44,100
come up, just to provide

1907
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:46,100
additional information. Know

1908
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:48,100
our site is fully constructed.

1909
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,401
Everything is stabilized clean.

1910
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:53,100
We're about 99% done

1911
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:55,100
with the construction

1912
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:56,100
of the site. Work.

1913
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:58,100
Everything's been working well.

1914
01:02:58,100 --> 01:02:59,100
There haven't been any issues

1915
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:00,100
on the construction side

1916
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:02,100
of things. You know,

1917
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:04,100
we understand. I think as Ryan

1918
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:05,100
mentioned,

1919
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:07,100
everything's been approved

1920
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:08,100
on the construction.

1921
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:09,100
On the construction plan side

1922
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,100
between staff and the board and

1923
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:14,100
our final plot is approved

1924
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:16,100
by staff and we're just looking

1925
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:17,100
to get that approved tonight

1926
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:19,100
here with my development team

1927
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:20,100
as well. If there's any

1928
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,100
specific questions, serving

1929
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:23,100
engineering land questions as

1930
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:26,100
well. So that's all I got.

1931
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:27,100
>> Thank you, sir. So this is.

1932
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:29,100
Comments. Take council

1933
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:33,401
comments. I just want

1934
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,100
to say that I think I was one

1935
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,100
of the first and only members

1936
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:41,100
that stated that we cannot

1937
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:44,601
continue to build until we have

1938
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:46,100
a stormwater master plan

1939
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:48,100
in hand. Before Hurricane

1940
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:50,100
Milton and a large rain event

1941
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:52,100
when I was first elected,

1942
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:54,100
the original developer

1943
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:55,100
of this issue, of this

1944
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:57,100
development was having an issue

1945
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:58,100
through permitting. And it was

1946
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:00,100
when we were transitioning

1947
01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:01,100
from Mr. Lear to Ryan. And I

1948
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:02,100
met

1949
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:04,100
with him and I had quite a bit

1950
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,100
of concern. We went and drove

1951
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,100
the property. I'm going to sit

1952
01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:09,100
in front of you and tell you

1953
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:11,100
that this is the only

1954
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:13,100
subdivision in all of the city

1955
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:15,100
of Edgewater that I have not

1956
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:17,401
received a single complaint

1957
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:19,100
about. I walked the property

1958
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:21,100
behind there, the development

1959
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:23,100
behind there. All the neighbors

1960
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:25,100
seemed okay. This is one of the

1961
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:26,100
largest buffers I've ever seen,

1962
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:29,100
to be honest. Please don't take

1963
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:31,100
offense to this. I'm very

1964
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:32,100
surprised that this is Dr.

1965
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,100
Horton project. I would

1966
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:37,100
recommend that they that this

1967
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:38,100
is how every subdivision.

1968
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:40,100
Unfortunately, we're going

1969
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:41,100
to continue

1970
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:42,100
to build regardless. We have

1971
01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:44,100
12,000 homes already approved

1972
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:45,100
in the city of Eduard. I would

1973
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,100
encourage Dr. Horton

1974
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:47,100
to continue to build like this

1975
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,100
on what is already approved

1976
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:50,100
in our community. This is not

1977
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:51,100
approval of the subdivision.

1978
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:53,100
This is not approval

1979
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:54,100
of the subdivision. It has

1980
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:56,100
already been approved,

1981
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:57,100
has already moved forward.

1982
01:04:57,100 --> 01:04:59,100
This is a final plat decision.

1983
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:01,100
I did my due diligence. I made

1984
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:03,100
the motion to table because I

1985
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:05,100
couldn't get a hold of the

1986
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:07,100
original developer I met with,

1987
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:09,100
which I got a hold of and asked

1988
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:10,100
a couple questions. I drove the

1989
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:11,100
property three different times.

1990
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:12,100
The mobile home park

1991
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:13,100
behind there, like I stated,

1992
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,100
was not affected at all. I. I

1993
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:16,100
think that this is a

1994
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:17,100
subdivision of that meets

1995
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,100
quality expectations. And you

1996
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:20,100
don't hear me say that often. I

1997
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,100
think the elevation is not a

1998
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,401
concern here. You don't

1999
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:29,100
necessarily see it being 10ft

2000
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:32,100
above the other facility like

2001
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:34,100
several other subdivisions.

2002
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:41,100
And the buffer is large.

2003
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:46,601
That's just my opinion. I also

2004
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:48,100
met with Mr. Stolz and as well

2005
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:49,100
as the engineer who answered

2006
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:51,100
all of my questions and walked

2007
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:52,100
the property as well. And I'm

2008
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,100
more comfortable.

2009
01:05:57,100 --> 01:05:58,100
>> With this than other

2010
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:00,100
projects that have come to us

2011
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:01,100
in the past.

2012
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:02,100
>> Mr. Attorney.

2013
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:03,100
>> Sorry.

2014
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:04,100
>> Yes. Just to quickly, you

2015
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:07,100
know, go over the law

2016
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:08,100
on final plat approval. The

2017
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:10,100
Florida Supreme Court has held

2018
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:11,100
that a decision granting or

2019
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:12,100
denying a final plat

2020
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:13,100
application is governed

2021
01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:14,100
by local regulations, which

2022
01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:16,100
must be uniformly administered.

2023
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:17,100
The administrative procedure,

2024
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,100
and this is an administrative

2025
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:20,100
procedure procedure for final

2026
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:22,100
plat approval is quasi judicial

2027
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:24,100
in nature, conducted to

2028
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:26,100
factually determine if the

2029
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:28,100
proposed site or final plat

2030
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:29,100
submitted

2031
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,100
by the property owner conforms

2032
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:33,100
to the specific requirements

2033
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:34,100
set out in the administrative

2034
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:35,100
regulations governing the

2035
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:37,100
erection of improvements

2036
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:39,100
on the property. And property

2037
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:41,100
owners are entitled to notice

2038
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:42,100
of the conditions they must

2039
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:44,100
meet in order

2040
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:45,100
to improve their property

2041
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:46,100
in accordance with the existing

2042
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:47,100
zoning and other development

2043
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:49,100
requirements regulations

2044
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:50,100
of the government. And these

2045
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:51,100
conditions must be set out

2046
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:53,100
in clearly stated regulations,

2047
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:55,100
which they are for the city.

2048
01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:56,100
So compliance with these

2049
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:57,100
regulations should be capable

2050
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:58,100
of objective determination in

2051
01:06:58,100 --> 01:06:59,100
an administrative proceeding.

2052
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:01,100
And that is the purpose

2053
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:02,100
of this public hearing, is to

2054
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:03,100
make that objective

2055
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:05,100
determination. While the burden

2056
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:07,100
is on the property owner

2057
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:09,100
to demonstrate compliance,

2058
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:11,100
there's no legislative

2059
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:12,100
discretion in involved

2060
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:13,100
in resolving the issue

2061
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:15,100
of compliance. So once the

2062
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:16,100
applicant meets the initial

2063
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:18,100
burden of showing that their

2064
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:19,100
application met all the city's

2065
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:20,100
criteria

2066
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:22,100
for granting the application,

2067
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:23,100
the burden then shifts

2068
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:25,100
to the city to demonstrate

2069
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:26,100
by competent,

2070
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:27,100
substantial evidence presented

2071
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:28,100
at the hearing and made part of

2072
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:30,100
the record that the application

2073
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:31,100
did not meet such standards and

2074
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:33,100
was in fact, adverse

2075
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:35,100
to the public interest. So

2076
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:36,100
to deny a plaid application,

2077
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:37,100
local government,

2078
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:39,100
like the city, must show by

2079
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:41,100
competent substantial evidence

2080
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:42,100
that the application does not

2081
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:44,401
meet the published criteria.

2082
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:47,100
So if the application complies

2083
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:49,100
with the comprehensive plan,

2084
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:51,100
the land Development code,

2085
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:53,100
the zoning and the RPUD

2086
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:54,100
agreement, the Florida

2087
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:55,100
statutes,

2088
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:56,100
and they have all the

2089
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:58,100
permitting, then the

2090
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:00,100
application should be granted.

2091
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,100
>> I did just have one

2092
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:05,601
question, and it's more of a

2093
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:08,100
simple question. I'm not sure,

2094
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:09,100
actually, if it's for you or

2095
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:11,100
environmental services that

2096
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:14,100
will be maintained by the city

2097
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,100
of Edgewater's responsibility.

2098
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:21,100
Correct. As far as any kind of

2099
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:22,100
stormwater criteria moving

2100
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,401
forward around that property,

2101
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:29,601
is it county maintained? Is it

2102
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:34,100
is a runoff go into a county? I

2103
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:36,100
know water has no boundary. It

2104
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,100
ultimately goes to Edgewater

2105
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,100
Canal and out.

2106
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:41,100
But I'm just curious, is that

2107
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:43,100
in the county or is that

2108
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,100
in the city? And how exactly

2109
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:46,401
would that process maintenance

2110
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:50,100
look moving forward? Because we

2111
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:52,100
maintain our own canals and

2112
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:53,100
ditches. So I'm just curious.

2113
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:56,100
>> So this site is. The

2114
01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:00,601
hydrology in this area is very

2115
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:03,100
particular and it's very

2116
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:05,100
strange. So on this west side

2117
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,100
of Old Mission, the water flows

2118
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:09,100
north on the east side,

2119
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,100
it flows south. So it's kind

2120
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:12,100
of. Well, it flows south

2121
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:14,100
in the north again

2122
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:15,100
through the canal. But so

2123
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:18,601
over here, the wetlands and the

2124
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:21,100
furthest southern portion that

2125
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:22,100
are in conservation will flow

2126
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:24,100
into the compensating storage

2127
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:26,100
pond. And there is a creek that

2128
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:28,100
they preserve the opening.

2129
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:30,100
That creek then runs under

2130
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:32,100
Eslinger and that's the

2131
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:33,100
headwaters of the Turnbull

2132
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:35,100
Creek that goes into Turnbull

2133
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:38,100
Bay out into Indian River.

2134
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:39,100
They also then have the pond

2135
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:40,100
that is

2136
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:41,100
for their subdivision. So the

2137
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:43,100
compensating storage helps

2138
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:45,100
facilitate that flow

2139
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:47,100
of that wetland and still

2140
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:50,100
into that creek. And then as

2141
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,100
far as. So the county maintains

2142
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:53,100
the ditch along Old Mission

2143
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,100
in this project, the city part

2144
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:58,100
of the comp plan says they

2145
01:09:58,100 --> 01:09:59,100
either have to dedicate the

2146
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:01,100
wetlands and areas

2147
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:02,100
in conservation to St. John's

2148
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:03,100
or the city. So that's

2149
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:05,100
in perpetuity

2150
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,100
in conservation, and that's

2151
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:09,100
in the con plan policy. Now, as

2152
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:11,100
far as. So the HOA

2153
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:13,100
in this case will maintain,

2154
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:14,100
you know,

2155
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:15,100
the stormwater system

2156
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:18,100
for this specific site. Now as

2157
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:19,100
far as the county maintains the

2158
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:20,100
ditch on Old Mission, and that

2159
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:22,100
is the county's responsibility.

2160
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:24,100
Part of that is that how.

2161
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,100
>> Yes.

2162
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:28,100
>> Did that answer?

2163
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:31,100
>> Yes. Thank you.

2164
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:33,100
>> What I like

2165
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:34,100
about this project is it has

2166
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:37,100
21 acres plus over 15 is going

2167
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:38,100
to be in conservation,

2168
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:39,100
which is big. Two thirds

2169
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,100
of it's going

2170
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:42,100
to stay conservation,

2171
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:44,100
preservation. And the fact that

2172
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:45,100
it flows north after,

2173
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:47,100
if it overflows

2174
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:49,100
for some reason that pond,

2175
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:51,100
it goes into wetlands and then

2176
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:54,100
to the Turnbull Bay headwaters

2177
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:56,100
and then it goes north. So the

2178
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:58,100
trailer park that's below it,

2179
01:10:58,100 --> 01:10:59,100
there's no worries there. I

2180
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:00,100
spoke with a few

2181
01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:02,100
of the residents there as well.

2182
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:03,100
No, I think it's a great

2183
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:05,100
project. And do I understand

2184
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,100
right that they're going

2185
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:08,100
to dedicate it back

2186
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:09,100
to the city?

2187
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:10,100
>> Yeah. So the areas that are

2188
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:12,100
in conservation, that

2189
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:14,100
southeastern, I don't recall

2190
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:16,100
off the top

2191
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:19,100
of my head how big it was.

2192
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:20,100
That'll be in dedicated

2193
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,100
to the city. So that'll be

2194
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:23,100
in perpetuity and conservation.

2195
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,100
As well as the kind

2196
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:26,100
of the mouth of the creek,

2197
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:27,100
which is

2198
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:29,100
in that northwest kind

2199
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:31,100
of line coming out of the

2200
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:33,100
northern property boundary that

2201
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:35,401
will also be preserved.

2202
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:39,100
>> Is there a motion

2203
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:40,100
to approve.

2204
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:42,100
>> Make a motion

2205
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:43,100
to approve. FP2401 request

2206
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:44,100
for final plat approval for

2207
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,100
Smyrna Creek Preserve.

2208
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:47,100
>> Second

2209
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:49,100
>> Roll call.

2210
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:52,100
>> [CALLING ROLL]

2211
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:56,100
>> Item 11. Officer reports

2212
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:58,401
item 11, a city clerk.

2213
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:01,100
>> With the special election

2214
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:04,100
coming up, we have the city

2215
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,100
canvassing board

2216
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:10,100
of this interim city manager,

2217
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:12,100
the mayor and myself, I would

2218
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:13,100
like to, just to be on the safe

2219
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:14,100
side because we really only

2220
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:16,100
have one shot

2221
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:17,100
at doing the canvassing

2222
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:18,100
of the election. Just have an

2223
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:20,100
alternate just in case. Not

2224
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:21,100
to jinx anybody, but just

2225
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:23,100
to be on the safe side. So if I

2226
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:25,100
could just get consensus from.

2227
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:26,100
From council, I suggest Vice

2228
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,100
Mayor Gillis as an alternate

2229
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:29,100
for the canvassing board.

2230
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:30,100
Everybody is okay

2231
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:31,100
with that?

2232
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:33,100
>> Sure.

2233
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:35,100
>> Okay. And then a reminder.

2234
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:38,100
The special election is on

2235
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,100
April 1. The polling locations

2236
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:43,100
are open from 7 to 7. It is

2237
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:44,100
citywide,

2238
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:46,100
meaning you do not have

2239
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:47,100
to live in that district

2240
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:48,100
in order to vote for District

2241
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:50,100
4. And anyone who is voting

2242
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:51,100
would go

2243
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:52,100
to their normal precinct. As

2244
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:53,100
with any election,

2245
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:54,100
whomever is elected

2246
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:56,100
on the 1st will be sworn in

2247
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:57,100
at the meeting on the 7th.

2248
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:59,401
That's all I have.

2249
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:05,100
>> Thank you. Item 11B, City

2250
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:06,100
Attorney.

2251
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:08,100
>> Nothing at this time.

2252
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:09,100
>> Item 11C, City Manager.

2253
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:11,401
>> Nothing additional to the

2254
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:16,100
memorandum that I emailed this

2255
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:19,100
morning or put

2256
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:21,100
in your mailboxes. There are a

2257
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:23,100
few things I'd like

2258
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:25,100
to highlight is participated

2259
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:26,100
in the LNA testing

2260
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:28,401
for that special election

2261
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:31,100
in the land. Also, I'm being

2262
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:32,100
considered to serve on the

2263
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:34,401
National American Public Work

2264
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:38,100
Association Subcommittee on

2265
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:40,100
Operations and Maintenance.

2266
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:41,100
>> It's not done deal,

2267
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:43,100
but congratulations.

2268
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,100
>> It's a great honor. Also,

2269
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:46,100
staff has been working

2270
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:48,100
diligently with Spectrum

2271
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:50,100
Business

2272
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:52,100
to install the final components

2273
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:54,100
for relocating the department

2274
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:55,100
Development and Review

2275
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:57,401
Department to the new

2276
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:00,100
Riverside Drive location. We

2277
01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:03,100
are anticipating that to take

2278
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:06,601
place no later than first week

2279
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:10,100
in April. We'd also like

2280
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:12,100
to have a ribbon cutting. Yet

2281
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,100
to be determined what date.

2282
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:16,100
Right. Those are the things I'd

2283
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:17,100
like to highlight. I would

2284
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:19,100
like to ask Sean

2285
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:20,100
to give us some updates

2286
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:22,100
on stormwater activities.

2287
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:30,100
>> Sean Maroney, Interim

2288
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:31,100
Environmental Services

2289
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:33,100
Director Just

2290
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:34,100
to give you an update

2291
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:35,100
like we've been trying to put

2292
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,100
out every week where the guys

2293
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,100
are working or the crews are

2294
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:39,100
working. Currently we got a big

2295
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:42,100
undertaking on the Queen Lake

2296
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:43,100
between 21st and 19th, cleaning

2297
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:44,100
up some trees that were dead or

2298
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:45,100
leaning over the lake trying

2299
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:47,100
to clean that up. Got a crew

2300
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,100
in Parktown cleaning up. We had

2301
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:50,100
the Menzie was over

2302
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:51,100
in the landings

2303
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:52,100
in their big canal and it broke

2304
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:54,100
down last week. So it's

2305
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:55,100
currently still. I think we're

2306
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:56,100
going to have it back

2307
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:57,100
on the road this week. So

2308
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:59,100
hopefully get that gets back

2309
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:01,100
in there. You know,

2310
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,100
just running through, doing

2311
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:03,100
some mowing and other things

2312
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:05,100
throughout the maintenance. I

2313
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:06,100
know everybody's interested in

2314
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:07,100
these boxes that we were

2315
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:09,100
reported to the state on. So I

2316
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:10,100
did want to give you an update

2317
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:11,100
and I do want

2318
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:12,100
to get some clarification

2319
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:13,100
to let you guys know,

2320
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,100
there's a lot

2321
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:16,100
of misinformation being spread

2322
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:18,100
out there, even

2323
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:19,100
by people associated

2324
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:20,100
with council. So I just want

2325
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:21,100
to make sure you're all

2326
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:23,100
on the same page. These boxes

2327
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:24,100
are not flood control. They are

2328
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:25,100
water quality control. So they

2329
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,100
were cut,

2330
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:31,100
from what I understand,

2331
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:32,100
what I've seen

2332
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:33,100
in my experience,

2333
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:34,100
to allow water to move because

2334
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:36,100
of flooding issues. When we

2335
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:37,100
seal them up,

2336
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:38,100
they are not going to help

2337
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:40,100
with flood. It. It may make it

2338
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:41,100
worse, but it's not going

2339
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:42,100
to make it better. So just

2340
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:44,100
to let you know, currently in

2341
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:45,100
Florida shores there's 92 boxes

2342
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:46,100
that I've identified. I've

2343
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:48,100
looked at 53

2344
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:50,100
of them so far and 20 do have

2345
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,100
some form of a cut,

2346
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:54,100
whether it's 6 inches or all

2347
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:55,100
the way down to the bottom

2348
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:57,100
of the box. So we will address

2349
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:59,100
that once I'm done doing all

2350
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:00,100
the inspections. But just want

2351
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:02,100
to make sure that everybody

2352
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:03,100
knows what we're,

2353
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,100
what we're dealing with here.

2354
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,100
So I know there's a lot,

2355
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:07,100
there's some videos and stuff

2356
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:08,100
that people are sharing that

2357
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:09,100
are false information. So just

2358
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:11,100
want

2359
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,100
to make sure you're all aware

2360
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:14,100
of that.

2361
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,401
>> Thank you. Any further

2362
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:19,100
on your report?

2363
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:21,100
>> And Sean, we were given 60

2364
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:22,100
days

2365
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:24,100
to do that inventory.

2366
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:25,100
>> Yes, 60 days

2367
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:26,100
for the inspection. And then

2368
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:28,100
once I put together a plan, it

2369
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:29,100
could be sooner. I'll let the

2370
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:30,100
state know and we'll give them

2371
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:31,100
our plan for whatever time we

2372
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,100
think it'll take to,

2373
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:34,401
to patch. You know,

2374
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:36,100
at this point, you know,

2375
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:37,100
if it's half the boxes or

2376
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:38,100
whatever,

2377
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:39,100
it ends up being.

2378
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:41,401
>> We'll talk later. I,

2379
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:44,100
I got another request related

2380
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:46,100
to that.

2381
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:53,100
>> That'S all we had. And this

2382
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:55,401
week, this Thursday and

2383
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:58,401
Saturday, or just Saturday?

2384
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:01,100
Thursday and Saturday. Next

2385
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:02,100
round of public participation

2386
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:05,100
in our process for Ryan's

2387
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:07,100
project.

2388
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:10,401
>> Okay, thank you. Item 12,

2389
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:14,100
citizens comments.

2390
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,100
>> Chuck Martin, 2 of 5

2391
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:23,100
Chairwood Lane. Just one more

2392
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:25,100
tonight. Now, you guys were

2393
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,100
hoping I would get back up here

2394
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:29,401
tonight. Seen some great

2395
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:33,100
progress. I haven't seen

2396
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:35,100
progress

2397
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:38,100
like this ever. I just want

2398
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:39,100
to give a shout out to Mr.

2399
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,100
Brown and his team because a

2400
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:43,100
lot of people don't know what's

2401
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:44,100
going on out there. Now that

2402
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:46,100
he's publicly, you know,

2403
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,100
putting it out there where

2404
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:48,100
people can see it,

2405
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:50,100
it's making a difference. And

2406
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:52,100
these guys are, they're doing a

2407
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:53,100
great job. I've been kind

2408
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:54,100
of looking

2409
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:55,100
at what they're doing. They're

2410
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:57,100
doing great with amount of

2411
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:58,100
people that they have and

2412
01:17:58,100 --> 01:17:59,100
hopefully we can up that

2413
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:01,100
in the future. But I wanted

2414
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:02,100
to get back to the county thing

2415
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:03,100
because I know the county had

2416
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:04,100
offered us some help I know

2417
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:06,100
they had you know helped us

2418
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:08,100
with some cleaning

2419
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:10,100
out some culverts but I haven't

2420
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:11,100
seen any grade all or graders

2421
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:13,100
or anything I know that I

2422
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:14,100
talked to Mr. Thurman when he

2423
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,601
first come on and he had

2424
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:21,100
mentioned man it'd be great

2425
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:23,100
to have a motor grader to run

2426
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:25,100
down the sides a lot of these

2427
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:26,100
streets and just cut a swell

2428
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:27,100
and scoop that stuff up and

2429
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:29,100
that can happen pretty quick

2430
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,100
and I know he's got some great

2431
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:32,100
ideas there

2432
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100
but is there any updates on the

2433
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:34,100
county helping us you know

2434
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:36,100
because hurricane seasons come

2435
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:37,100
and helping us dig some of

2436
01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:38,100
these ditches and cut some

2437
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:40,100
swells and if there is do they

2438
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:42,100
charge us

2439
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:44,100
for that or are they just going

2440
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:45,100
to a good faith to help us

2441
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:46,100
out or is there any information

2442
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,100
on that?

2443
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,100
>> Thank you sir, for your

2444
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:55,100
comments, no further

2445
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:57,100
citizens comments we are

2446
01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:59,100
adjourned.