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Question, are you hosting or is the mayor?

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It's the mayor, but I can be sure you're not available.

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Oh, actually it wasn't me, but I can.

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I think we need to have the first part as the research report.

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All right. All right.

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I'll call the, sorry. I will call the May 13th, 2026 Discussion to order at 3 p.m.

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All right. Mr. Tatum. Okay. Actually, Luke, is there a Brendan Kara in the waiting room?

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There is only a pull the men. Yeah, thank you.

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Okay, great. Okay. There we go. All right.

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Hello, members of the council mayor. Thanks again for, thanks again for having us. Just a reminder,

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this is about the community survey. We started our first community survey in 2024. EMC research was

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the company that we chose to do that. This is an effort to gather feedback from our residents

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about the importance that they've rate our sort of the level of importance they give to certain

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services in a satisfaction in our delivery of those services. This has been an important part

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of our budgeting cycle where it helps us to align with with our residents' priorities

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and also have a better understanding about how well our services are meeting their needs.

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The goal was last time to have this available for the start of the budget season, but due to

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kind of like the newness of the process, we didn't get in until June, so we were a little bit

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later than we would have liked to be this year. The process got done in March. So we're

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sitting in a really good place to be able to start our budget planning cycle with these,

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with these data points. This brief will cover the outcomes of this survey and this

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data what I've always found with surveys is that they're very useful to understand what people are saying

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but you have a lot of work to do to say okay well what does this mean now what do we do with it and

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and so that's the work that we'll have to do over the next several months to help incorporate this

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in the city services and into our budgeting cycle so I'm just going to go ahead and head

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and head over to Brendan he can introduce himself and Brendan I think you're driving the slides right

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as well. Yes. Okay, correct. Hopefully everybody can hear me.

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All right, I'm going to share my screen here,

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but then I will go ahead and introduce myself. My name is Brandon Cara. I'm a vice president with EMC

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research. We've had the pleasure now again in 26 to work with the city of Edmonds and with Todd and his team

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to conduct this community survey. Priorities survey. Make this the appropriate size of

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here. Yeah, so thank you for having me with you this afternoon so I can take

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everybody through the results.

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So this survey was a survey of residents across the

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city of Edmunds, really aiming to understand as Todd said in his great intro,

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residents, priorities for future planning and improvements, but really to understand the importance

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The multi-model survey, which means that we were using live interviewers on the telephones, reaching out to residents, as well as sending emails and text messages driving them to an online version of the survey.

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And the survey data was weighted in the end lightly to reflect the known demographic breakdowns of residents and the city of Edmunds using voter-incensus data.

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So, we completed a total of 350 interviews there at the end of March, and so when we're thinking about the results overall, we want to keep in mind that there's a margin of error of plus or minus about 5 percentage points, 5.2 percentage points, and we do have in several places, in fact many places, the ability to compare this to how things looked back in 2024, when we conducted a very similar multi-modal survey with the same methodology back in the middle of July 2020.

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So these are just some a respondent profile basically so we can all understand, as you

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as already know, of course, some of the demographic make-ups of the city of Edmund, residents

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in the city lean a little bit more female than male, more than 50% report having an income

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greater than $120,000 for their household, and we have a nice age distribution as you would

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to find across the city. 75% of residents are identified as white or Caucasian, and then we have

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25% making up other ethnicities of residents in the city. And we do have a bit of a lean

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here towards homeowners versus renters reflecting, reflecting, knowing, knowing,

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rates in the city.

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So some key findings of the bat over here, we do see that the mood among residents

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and Edmonds does remain really positive today. While some ratings on specific metrics have

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softened a little bit, we still see that residents value living in Edmonds that they view it very

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positively and that they're overall in a pretty positive mood compared to what we see in other

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communities across the country. So really a nice place to be. Addressing the city's budget

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issues, though, is definitely a top priority to residents and something that a subset of residents

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are focused upon, and in open-ended questions, we do find that pocketbook issues focused

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on the cost of living and taxes and things of that nature, housing affordability, are top of

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minds of voters, which we're seeing really in research across the country these days.

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Residents continue to rate the maintaining of streets and fixing of potholes as the most important city service that they think is being provided.

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But we have seen some changes in terms of how people perceive the importance of and the ratings of specific city services which we will go over and much greater detail in this presentation.

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But things like services for the homeless and traffic safety and enforcement, these are places where satisfaction is now higher.

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Among residents in the city then it has been just two years ago.

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But then there's some other services like preparing for natural disasters and attracting new businesses and jobs,

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where that importance has increased.

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But satisfaction has dropped a little bit.

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And finally at the end of this survey we took a future looking line of questioning, right?

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After talking about all these services that the city provides, do you want to see these services

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grow in terms of the number and the quality that are provided by the city?

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Most people did say that they want services maintained for them to be enhanced, but there's

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a reluctance facing the reality of things to pay for these increased taxes.

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Certainly there was a preference for some smart reductions or cuts as opposed to increasing funding from residents.

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So starting with the overall mood at the beginning of the survey, you can see that the responses to this question,

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how would you rate the quality of life in Edmunds were quite positive, right?

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93% this year compared to 94% to years ago.

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So people are still really thinking that living in Edmunds is quite nice.

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So there's negative numbers are extremely low.

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So that's nice to see year over year.

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is headed.

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Do you think that things are headed in the right direction?

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But that is a bit suppressed now compared to two years ago, but it's still on the positive territory. 60% of residents thinking things are headed in the right direction, 40% on the wrong track.

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Looking at this by some demographics, you can see that women a little bit more optimistic about the direction that the city has headed compared to men who are a bit more split.

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But across other demographics, we don't see as stark differences over here.

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We do see that those residents between the age of 50 and 64, which you might see as a recurring theme in this presentation,

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are a little bit grumpy about how things are looking towards in the future and Edmunds.

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But we do see some elevated right direction satisfaction among residents who are of other ethnicities.

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So non-white non-coccasin residents,

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which is great.

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And we have to open any question,

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thinking about life and Edmunds.

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What do you like best about living here?

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So these are some of the nice quotes

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that people gave in response to that question.

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They love having the water so close by.

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They love the clean nature of the vibrant downtown,

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but they also really like nature

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and they love their community, the people that are in it.

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So these were really nice encouraging things

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to see come out of the open-ended responses to this question.

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We have some other open-ended question

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that was really thinking,

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making people think about the priorities

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for the city in the near future, in the near future,

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in the next two years.

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And you can see what comes to the top over here.

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Budget and fiscal responsibility, 27%.

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That's kind of head and shoulders above

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any of the other items that people mentioned.

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they were all coated into the, into the groupings that you see here. And compared to that box in

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the bottom right over there, you can see that budget and fiscal responsibility was only at 7% in the

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20-24 survey. So this is something that a subset of the population are more focused on today than

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they were just two years ago. But I do want to draw your attention to the second and the third

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items on this list, cost of living in taxes at 14% and housing affordability at 8%. Those combined

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to 22% of people nearly a quarter who are saying that these

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cost of living pocketbook issues are the top thing that the city should be focusing

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on for residents in the near term.

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We have to view ratings of the city and we are able

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to compare these over time. The item at the top everybody got first within this

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battery of items, the job, job rating for the job, the city does overall. You can see

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We're still in positive territory over here, but it is a bit suppressed from what we saw back in 2024.

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We're at 58% total positive rating an excellent or good, the job the city is doing overall.

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The intensity in response to these questions hasn't changed dramatically at all.

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It's really the changes are on the softer opinions in the middle.

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The job the city of Edmunds does delivering services effectively.

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This still remains pretty high at 68%, it's down a bit from what we saw in 2024, but still it's two thirds of residents saying that the city is delivering those services effectively.

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The job the city does focusing on priorities that matter the most to community members.

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This is where we see opinion is a little bit more split, and yes, this again is a bit decreased from 2024.

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So, yeah, thinking that they're not the city may not necessarily be focusing on what matters

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the most to community members. That's an increased sentiment.

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Let me ask some agree disagreed questions on perceptions of city services over here. On top,

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I'm satisfied with the types and quality of services provided by the city of Edmunds.

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Three quarters, 74% saying that they agree with this statement. The city does a good job engaging

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residents to inform important decisions. This is where you see about a third of residents, maybe

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a little bit more than a third, disagree with the statement. So thinking that there is a bit

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of a gap there between the happiness with the services that the city provides and feeling engaged

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by the city in those decisions.

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Importantly, we compared these perception of the types and quality

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services back to what we saw in 2024 and this virtually no change here. Residents perception

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of the quality and the types of services remains strong and unchanged.

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We looked at that by

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demographics over here.

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All right. Now we're getting into the meeting potatoes of the survey. We asked a series of city services, and we first

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engaged everybody's importance rating for that particular city service. And then we followed up with the exact same list and

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wanted to understand that, but now how satisfied are you with how the city is providing that service? These are the items that came to the top in terms of importance.

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You can see the dark blue parts of this bar.

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Those represent a seven out of seven on this scale in terms of being extremely important

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fit to them personally, right?

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So at the top maintaining streets and fixing potholes.

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Again, this is the top item, same as it was in 2024.

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With 94% of residents total saying that this is important in some way.

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Other top items over here maintaining parks, trails, and open spaces,

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reducing petty crime and burglary, these are items that have changed a little bit that

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read on the right and the numbers in parentheses indicate that any change from 2024 to this metric.

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But this is still really important to residents in the city. A couple of things have come up a

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little higher on this list compared to 2024. That fourth item preparing for natural disasters,

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such as earthquakes flooding in major storms, 80% of residents saying that that's important to them.

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And that's up seven points from what we saw two years ago. Further down on this list, attracting new businesses and jobs,

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it's at 69% in terms of importance of people thinking that's important to them.

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But it's up eight points from just last year or just two years ago. Excuse me.

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But some other items over here, when you think about the dark blue here and the intensity,

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reducing petty crime and burglary, 48% extremely important, cracking down on illegal drug use and sales,

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46% extremely important, these elements are still top priorities for a lot of people in the city.

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These items are a little bit lower on that importance rating, you can see the dark blue on these bars is notably smaller than those top items.

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And most of these have kind of decreased a little bit in terms of their importance or perceived importance over the last two years.

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So improving and expanding sidewalks, supporting the arts and cultural events, not a tremendous change, but a little bit lower.

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Improving traffic safety and enforcement, still important in an area where we haven't seen a ton of change.

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Some of these with a bit more change, strictly enforcing building and development codes, less important to residents than it was two years ago, preparing for the impacts of climate change, a little less important as well.

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At the bottom, the lowest in terms of importance, we're improving and expanding bike paths.

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So, these are the satisfaction ratings for those same city services and again, these are ranked

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by their by satisfaction.

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These are the items that came to the top immediately.

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You can see that the dark blue on these bars is notably smaller.

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So, the intensity of satisfaction versus importance is easy to see that it's lessen, right?

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But the ones that came to the top supporting the arts and cultural events,

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still three quarters of people who say that they're satisfied with the city's efforts there,

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maintaining parks, trails, and open spaces. Also at the top over here,

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but other items over here, increasing in terms of satisfaction, maintaining streets and fixing

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potholes. We know that's the most important issue to residents in the city, and there are a bit more

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satisfied with that today than they were two years ago. So that's great. We're using petty crime and

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glory, also another one where we know that there's a lot of intensity behind people's

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the importance that they place on it. And that also gets an elevated level of satisfaction

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in the survey this year.

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we're at about a third or less of residents who are expressing satisfaction with the city's provision

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of these services. So that's important to note. And we do get a couple of items here that have

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But we're only at 34% in terms of satisfaction, a 13-point decrease from 2024.

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Another item over here, again, preparing for national disasters, it's down towards the bottom in terms of satisfaction, and that's a decrease from what we saw two years ago.

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So certainly, a bit of a change there, a gap, a gap, so to speak, between importance in satisfaction.

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which gets me to our gap analysis. Now these are the same city services and I

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know this is a lot of data on on one page but I will walk everybody through it.

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These are the same city services and they are ranked by that satisfaction gap

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that you see on the left. So the items, the gray bars that you see are people

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status faction with that service and the blue bars are the importance that they

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place on that service. The items at the top, these are areas where

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satisfaction exceeds the importance that people place on that service.

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So improving and expanding bike paths, people very satisfied,

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but the importance of that item, as we know, is a bit lower.

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Supporting the arts and cultural events of their, again,

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for the impacts of climate change.

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These are areas where the city, people think they're doing a good job,

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But the importance of those items is low.

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The items in the middle over here, this is kind of where satisfaction is comparable to the importance that people place on that.

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And this is what we see some of our movement.

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You can see that providing services to help the homeless and people in need.

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That's higher on this list than it was two years ago.

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And you can see that gap from two years ago there in the column on the right.

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Again, this is one where the gap changed notably, and it's moved up on this list closer to the top, closer to

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To that satisfaction exceeding performance level, right?

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Attracting new businesses and jobs. This is notably a bit lower now than it was two years ago.

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And this bottom group is where satisfaction under performs importance.

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And these are the areas where

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You know, obviously we know that things are quite important to people and that the city could focus some efforts in terms of priorities for the upcoming years.

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Preparing for natural disasters such as earthquakes, flooding and major storms, that's on this list and one that has kind of moved into this area as opposed to what we saw two years ago.

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But I think the important thing to think about on this slide with those items on the bottom

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is that despite some of them remaining there from two years ago,

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the satisfaction gap

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for most of these is smaller now.

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That is to say people are a bit closer to being satisfied relative to the importance

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than we saw two years ago.

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And finally, we wanted to look at some of this by demographics.

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So we created a bit of a heat map over here.

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These are ranked in the exact same order that we saw on the previous slides.

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So you have your items that exceed expectations at the top,

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and the ones where satisfaction doesn't quite meet importance at the bottom.

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We'll just give an example over here for the top item of improving and expanding bike paths.

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If you look at that overall number, men, this sentiment is kind of being led by women.

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1.6 on this scale as opposed to 1.04 for men.

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So men were below in terms of their satisfaction while women were a little bit higher.

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So we tried to kind of pull out some themes here.

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And if you think about the items on the bottom where we know that importance is quite high,

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satisfaction is a bit lower. You can see that younger residents under the age of 50 are a bit more

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satisfied than some other residents over the age of 50 with some of these quite important

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city services. We looked at this by ethnicity over here as well towards the middle of this. You can see

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that residents of varying ethnicities other than white or Caucasian, a bit more satisfied with how things

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are going for many of these services than white residents in the city.

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A bit of a difference here in terms of geography as well, residents living in the western

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parts of the city showing just a little bit more satisfaction on most of these items

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compared to residents in the east portions of the city.

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And finally, I want to draw your attention to the homeowner, non-homeowner.

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Element over here. Homeowners feeling like they're in the middle on most of these items, but you can see that among non-homeowners, which includes your rent or population, the items towards the bottom over here that are quite important to people, are actually where we see a bit of heightened satisfaction among people in the rent or population.

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and it's some of those items that are higher on this list.

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So, more greater greater satisfaction than importance,

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where they're a little less satisfied.

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So, some interesting things, I know that it's a lot of data on one slide,

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but we wanted to see if any patterns popped up.

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And finally, getting to the end of over here,

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we asked those questions that were really future-looking.

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One is to understand how people preferred the city to approach

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The provision of services, thinking about the services provided to residents, which of the following approaches would you like to see the city taking going forward?

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They were offered in this order, so that's why you see them in this order.

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You only had 11% of residents saying that they wanted to add additional services that are not offered.

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The majority of residents were here in the middle. They wanted to either enhance existing service offerings, 30%.

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or just maintain existing service offerings at the current levels, 37%.

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Again, few residents are looking to reduce the level of existing services or cut services more significantly.

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And we followed that up with an acknowledgement here of some of the budgetary realities that the city faces.

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acknowledging that adding services or even maintaining services at current levels would require additional funding which of the following approaches would you support and again people saw these in this order

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18% of residents so nearly one in five said we should explore additional and new revenue streams like a property tax levy and we intentionally included that were those words property tax levy to make it clear what we were talking about

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So that minority opinion there making reductions to underutilized or lower priority services 37% cutting underutilized or lower priority services 29% so this is what I was

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towards the beginning of this presentation.

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The people are looking for smart cuts as the solution

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to the budgetary issues, as opposed to drastic cuts

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on one end, reducing services broadly to offset rising

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expenses, 9%, or raising property taxes.

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And that is the presentation that I have for you today.

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And I would love to pass it back to Todd.

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Yeah, thanks.

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So staff right now is working on putting context to this data for the department.

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Our budget retreats that will be participating with Council at the end of the month.

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We'll allow us some time to start incorporating this into our budget process.

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And, you know, another one of the things between now and the time that we do deliberate on the budget is a great time to take some of the unanswered questions that I found oftentimes in my best of this at the beginning that the survey data will raise questions that you didn't know you had.

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And so, working on finding out the answers to those unanswered European questions, we'll need a plan for how to do that and for what to do with that information.

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For example, last year we gathered some of the respondents together on these areas where we weren't sure what it meant and we were able to have some focus groups and I thought that those were very instrumental.

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So with that, I'll just go ahead and open it up to questions.

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Susan, I see your hand up.

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Oh, thank you.

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So question to Todd, are we going to do a non-statistically valid survey to capture some of the

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things that may be more captured from the statistically valid group like we did last

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time?

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We are not intended to do that now.

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You know, what we found out from that is, you know, is a confirmation of a lot of the data

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and the demographic groups skewed highly to the 902O zip codes and anyway.

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So the bottom line is where we're not planning on doing it.

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Okay, that makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you.

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On preparing to prepare for the effects of natural disasters. And then on the other hand, less important to prepare for the effects of climate change. And those two absolutely are kind of intermingled. And so, as we think about that, and our climate action plan, I feel like there's there's absolutely something there for us to leverage and to communicate.

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to our community members about and then I really do appreciate how this reinforces the importance

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of economic development, which I know is priority for me and many of you and so hopefully

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this will reinforce when we're doing budgeting that we really do need to allocate more resources

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to that in particular.

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Thank you.

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yeah, thank you Brendan for the presentation. It's comforting to see 93%

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in general staying positive in terms of quality of life here in Ammonge, but there was one slice

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that kind of struck me is one slice we're talking about whether we provide the service that's

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to the residents and what they want and I remember the result is like 40%

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sectors factory. I wonder if you have any insight into more or like

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which area there are no sectors why I think it's good for us as a city to

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know what they are not happy about so that we can at least know before we

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mental judgment.

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Yeah, and that's a great observation. Yeah, it was quite split on that question.

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This year it was 48% saying that the city was doing an excellent or good job on focusing

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on those priorities. We can certainly look at the data by those people who are in disagreement with

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that and see, are there any different priorities that actually come to the top or are a little elevated

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among this group of residents who are just feeling like the city is not quite focusing on what they think is important.

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So doing that comparison, which I'll work with Todd on after this call, may yield something interesting.

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Yeah, I think also depending on how the question is phrase, it is also over all top levels

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see, does the city offer the service that's mattered to you and without specific examples

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of whether it is fixing patho or public safety or certain focus is over or maybe people

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I'm certain that without having Pacific area in their minds, just like in general, I'm just not happy.

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Right. Yeah. That could be a little bit of what we're seeing in this question as it was relatively broad.

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And it also came in the survey before we got into any of that specific discussion of city services importance.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Brendan and EMC for your work on this.

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Before I get into like my data related questions, I was just curious.

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How much Todd did we pay $35,000 for this survey?

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And was this sample size the same two years ago,

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350 respondents?

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Yeah, it was roughly the same, yes.

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Okay, and then is the cost of the contract the same this year or did the price go up?

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Yeah, I think I don't remember up the top of my head. I think it goes 36,000 this year.

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Okay, I was just curious, because it's a very interesting tool that we get feedback from our community

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and the cost of it when I talk about it to other jurisdictions. I'm becoming that on top.

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I think it's really interesting as consumer trend point out that we're getting in 93% satisfaction.

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And I found the geographic distribution in satisfaction between the eastern and the western parts of the city.

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The fact that there's higher levels of satisfaction in the western part and lower levels.

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I think just reading kind of like holistically, I think what we're seeing is there might be more knowledge about the availability of services

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and work the city.

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Is doing and response these different categories and subcategories in the western part of the city which is more geographically located around what I call the municipal bubble of city hall and then the public safety building, you know, right in downtown versus knowledge and the availability of these services and what the city is doing on the eastern part of the city and what we can do to do further outreach and education to our community.

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members in the the annex parts that traditionally haven't had a lot of engagement with the

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downtown core in the city services and city government. I'd really choose to see how we could

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partly this data into more community outreach out there. So thank you so much again for all

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of your hard work. And I think this is this is the persistent problem that Edmund's going back

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to when the Western part or the Eastern part of the city was for Santax in 1960.

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Thank you. Thank you, Vivian.

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Sorry, I can't hear you.

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Okay. Welcome back. Welcome back to

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Erica. That was a situation where we go once first.

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I was just encouraged to see that overall

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this survey seems to map pretty well to the 2021 survey that we use as sort of a jumping off point

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for our council prioritization work.

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So it is encouraging to see that the priorities we've set

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as council are still, you know,

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within range of what the citizens of Edmunds are saying

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are important to them.

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So that's good for us to know as we go into the budget planning cycle

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as Todd mentioned and start to think about how we map out

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our budget to those priorities.

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I did want to flag just a question.

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And I don't know if it exists in the data, Mr. Care,

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or not, but I can't remember acted point out

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the emergency and disaster preparedness.

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One dropped the most significant points from the last survey.

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I think I went down 10 points,

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or it was like the biggest shift,

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and that was just curious if there was anything

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that anybody wrote in the comments,

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or if there was any opportunity for us to note

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what either brought that higher top of mind for folks,

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or if there is something going on,

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that might have triggered that shift,

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because it was the one that was somewhat out of alignment with the rest of the adjustments in that data set.

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Yeah, I would have to go back and look specifically at the verbatim responses to some of those

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open-ended questions to see if any of the any recent events are being mentioned by

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by respondents or more broad like concern over natural disasters that they're seeing in other parts

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of the state or world that are influencing their opinions on programs here.

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Yeah, I was just trying to figure out was there something specific that Edmunds did

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or did not do that cause that, or if it's just a general environmental global sense.

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So anyway, that would be great to know if you can find that.

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I'll look back.

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Yes.

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Great.

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I don't know.

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Vivienne, are you able to join us?

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Don't hear her.

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I'm going to ask one question then we go through a second time.

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on the methodology trans, one thing that it looked like there was a 14 point drop in

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residents feeling the city is headed in the right direction. Is there anything in the

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fall questions that kind of address that? That's pretty good.

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Well, I think this one is not necessarily a specific to Edmund's issue. We're seeing in our

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last 10 years because it varies really community to community. How people view this question, right?

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It can be heavily influenced by political things that are happening nationally. It can be influenced

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by a major state election or things like that that are going on. So really, we do see a decrease.

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People today, then there was two years ago, and so that that can have an effect on responses to a question like this.

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We use it really to engage relative to other communities and other surveys that we can duck.

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Just overall community outlook, right? Is it a little bit more positive, a little bit more negative?

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I think to just to think to keep in mind is how much as we were going through, the, the, the, our financial crisis,

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you know, we were really working through and struggling how much we, our finances were being impacted during the last survey and that in the finance piece, you know, the open the survey about what's the most important issue to finance is where

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Well, down there, even though we all knew that it was a really big deal, so I think one of the things we've probably have seen from that is that our communication has reached people and so, you know, there's just there is often a lag in what the community understands.

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in as aware of versus what we're experiencing in real time.

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So there's certainly probably a part of that and I think some of the open-ended questions

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also kind of validate that the people are far more aware of it now than they were before.

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And that was one thing I was going to note the jump in the budget of the school responsibility.

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I went from 7% to 27% percent.

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So I'll be parallel.

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Yes, definitely more of a salient as you today.

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and then the public engage when peace that only 44% feels doing a good job. I just want to say just

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for council too, the priorities that we went through earlier this year, we're really seeing to

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line up pretty well with what our communities feeling and so I just feel like we're listening. So

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there's maybe we'll through those will definitely be priorities for the community.

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So, all right, we got a few more minutes, Chris.

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Thank you.

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So, one of their observations, but first, Bren,

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and thank you so much for your presentation,

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and your work on this.

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And then, Todd, your commentary is also very helpful.

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So, my thought is, it's particularly helpful

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to see the aid ranges,

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because not only should we pay attention

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to key findings in the survey,

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over all, we also need to be able to walk

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as I've mentioned in the past, so as we're dealing with the issues that our priorities for the community today,

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we also need to be thinking about the next generations of Edmund's residents who will be buying houses and paying taxes and living here and renting and all the things.

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And what are their priorities now, so that we're starting to think about the shape of the city moving forward.

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So, you know, there are generational differences, so I just, uh, could be encouraged us to kind of keep that in the back of our minds.

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And then second, we're in kind of high-level top line as you said something that I was thinking as I was looking through the data.

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What are some of the headlines for the biggest things that came out of this for Edmund specifically versus what you're seeing more globally?

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I hope this is going on.

419
00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:30,180
Maybe see that everything is going to be vivid.

420
00:43:33,290 --> 00:43:33,510
Yeah.

421
00:43:34,850 --> 00:43:37,290
So that's a good question.

422
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:50,430
I think certainly satisfaction with life and Edmunds is quite high, and we don't see that in every community where we perform research.

423
00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:58,810
So, from that perspective, when you pair that with the consistency of satisfaction that people

424
00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:00,950
have with the provision of city services,

425
00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:06,230
it seems like it's in quite a good place, right?

426
00:44:06,850 --> 00:44:12,930
Those are encouraging findings in terms of that continuity over time and it differs a little

427
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:20,150
from what we see in a lot of other communities where, you know, which are also facing budgetary

428
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:27,990
realities, right? So even in the face of that, to have those numbers stay quite high, I think is

429
00:44:28,530 --> 00:44:31,020
encouraging, as I said, but also a little bit unique.

430
00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:40,570
Nothing else stands out to you, like public safety or, you know, just more universal trends.

431
00:44:40,570 --> 00:44:42,810
So maybe just one or two, because I know we'll show them to them.

432
00:44:42,970 --> 00:44:44,270
I don't want to take up all the...

433
00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:46,430
It's really hard to make some of those comparisons,

434
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:53,030
because I work in communities where public safety is consistently year-over-year,

435
00:44:53,110 --> 00:44:55,310
not the number one thing that people are concerned about.

436
00:44:55,470 --> 00:44:57,850
And that's not the case in Edmonds.

437
00:44:59,310 --> 00:44:59,970
So to see some of those...

438
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:19,640
But I can say that based on what's publicly available in terms of satisfaction, in terms of, sorry, right direction, wrong track, that people think their cities are headed. Edmonds is right there with a lot of other peer, peer cities in the Pacific Northwest.

439
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,840
so. All right. Thank you. Great. I just want to check in on Vivian. Are you able to participate?

440
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:32,610
Maybe not just with any on. Yes. So, can you hear me? Yes. Go ahead. Okay. Thank you.

441
00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:40,000
Yeah. Dave Roddy has been here helping me go on. Okay. Thanks. And what do you say?

442
00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:46,680
Sorry. Okay. So, I had a few things. With the way spam works these days and where everybody's

443
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:52,280
so reluctant to answer their phone, how are you finding that that's affecting your test results?

444
00:45:52,980 --> 00:45:57,560
Like, is there some sort of a filter on, you know, what kind of person does answer their phone?

445
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,540
Because somebody in a subordinate about fishing now, they don't really recognize he's calling.

446
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,940
Yeah, that's where the multimodal approach has really become the bread and butter of our industry.

447
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Not the Tudor on home, but we were kind of pioneering it like 12 years ago, but everybody else caught up.

448
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,800
It's fine.

449
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:20,280
Really, it's a majority of surveys these days that are completed online.

450
00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:24,920
We still like to keep that phone component because there's definitely audiences out there

451
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,040
who are more receptive to completing a survey over the phone.

452
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,860
You have your people that are a little bit less technologically savvy and things like that.

453
00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:39,880
But it's a matter of finding people where they're comfortable taking a survey and then appearing

454
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,060
as legitimate as possible, obviously.

455
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:51,060
So we spend a lot of time not only like keeping our sending emails green in terms of not falling into people's spam filters,

456
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:58,220
but then also presenting ourselves as professionals and that's how we get engagement from folks.

457
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:08,000
So in the end, we don't let the different modes drive our perceptions of like what the right representative make up of a community is,

458
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,100
So we let those things kind of float just knowing that in varying communities different people

459
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:15,860
will engage with survey research in different ways.

460
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:22,200
Yeah, I guess I just am aware that that's a limitation or a constraint in terms of

461
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,140
actually participating because even following the link is something that we're afraid to do these

462
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:27,640
days, right?

463
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,260
I know.

464
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,140
I know.

465
00:47:29,860 --> 00:47:33,220
Yeah, it's more of a function of overall feasibility.

466
00:47:33,220 --> 00:47:39,720
like, I couldn't necessarily complete a 700 or 800 sample size survey in the city of Edmunds,

467
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:44,820
that doesn't seem possible based on how people respond to surveys, right?

468
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,980
Yeah. Okay. Well, I just wanted to make that comment, or you know,

469
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:57,440
ask about that concern. The input about what people said services they wanted to add,

470
00:47:57,540 --> 00:48:02,700
I mean, obviously, in our financial situation, that's probably not doable anyway,

471
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:07,980
but it would be interested to know if there's a lot of asking for the same thing, it would just

472
00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:13,040
to the extent that that information was available, it'd be interested. And then I think it's

473
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:19,960
really important for us to keep in mind this particular takeaway from this survey, you know, that

474
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,140
when we asked what services, you know, that people that we were getting, that they were wanting to

475
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:30,660
enhance or maintain or whatever, but then you asked about, you know, what you're willing to pay for,

476
00:48:30,660 --> 00:48:32,740
and it went down so much.

477
00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:36,460
You said there was a 5% variance, maybe from what the results are,

478
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:40,820
but it was 75% that said cut or reduced the lower priority

479
00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:42,100
or underutilized.

480
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:48,700
And I don't know if we could cutting enough to get down

481
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:53,460
to where we are paying just what people are currently paying.

482
00:48:54,420 --> 00:48:57,200
But to the extent that we were, I was looking

483
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:06,780
that the importance if you look at all the importance under 70% you know that maybe if you go to

484
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:11,840
the full 70% that you could get to enough services cut that we wouldn't have to raise any money

485
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:18,040
but basically from this survey they're saying don't raise 75% or saying don't raise any more money

486
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:26,320
and just cut or reduce. So I think that's important feedback for us and once we broke into

487
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,460
of groups because I found that information really valuable and insightful, but I wondered

488
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,240
Mail female, which is nearly a 50-50 split, carries with it pretty good statistical significance when you're comparing those two subgroups.

489
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:15,680
When we start to look at subgroups that are quite small, we're talking about under 20% of the survey responses.

490
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:22,660
That's when things start to get a little bit higher that has a margin of error of like plus or minus 8 percentage points.

491
00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:32,660
So that's where we need to see a bit of a darker difference between demographics to say that's as statistically significant difference.

492
00:50:32,660 --> 00:51:01,880
I mean it didn't seem like when they did that by women in the age group of 18 to 49 to me that's like your mom demographic rate and the parks and rack and you know schools because I don't think they always associate what's a city service versus other services, the library, the schools, the parks nature, the beach, you know so I think we're probably doing really well in those areas to have that high rating from women of that age group.

493
00:51:02,820 --> 00:51:08,800
basically what you care about when you have kids versus what, you know, the men and the older

494
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:15,580
age group was, we're asking about answering, but, yeah, it's really interesting. I did

495
00:51:15,580 --> 00:51:21,020
want to also point out one other thing real quick. When we, in 2024, we were working on

496
00:51:21,020 --> 00:51:27,520
the comp plan and so there was a lot more conversation and focus in the community about development,

497
00:51:28,220 --> 00:51:38,140
versus right now. There's a lot of focus and development. Thanks to some of our nonprofit groups really focusing on the emergency services or emergency response.

498
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:52,060
So I do think that some of the, you know, where there's more concern over development growth in the past versus the emergency preparedness now might just be that we're focusing a little bit more during those same time frames for the surveys.

499
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,700
Okay, thank you. I thought it was really good.

500
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,420
If I just jumped in for 20 seconds.

501
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,240
Yeah, I think, you know, Council Member Oceans comment about, you know,

502
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:07,640
people wanting more services but also preferring that we cut those.

503
00:52:08,020 --> 00:52:12,440
You know, I think that's one of the things where we, where it's really incumbent on us

504
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,800
to provide context to what that means and what we do about it.

505
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:25,500
because the level of detail in those two questions was not very high and so you know

506
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:29,580
it could point to a whole bunch of things. It could point to the fact that we need to cut

507
00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:36,100
services pretty drastically to meet people's desires or you know it could point to the fact

508
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:42,720
that we need to do more education about how those services are. So I think that's that's like

509
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:47,720
the next step and the most important things for us to do is to take those open questions

510
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:54,380
and try to figure out how we get to clarity and a real come back and forth conversation about those

511
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:55,740
with the public. So.

512
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,840
Right. Thank you. And then we do have another, um, for a time check,

513
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:08,520
another item to get to, um, would it be possible for the remaining questions to email you Todd and then

514
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:13,820
um, yeah, that's absolutely. That's fine. Um, if everyone's okay, I literally got one round

515
00:53:13,820 --> 00:53:16,300
through, I've ready, I'm glad that you got on.

516
00:53:16,780 --> 00:53:20,120
So thank you so much and really appreciate really great work

517
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,940
and helpful information that we'll definitely be using this year.

518
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:23,920
So.

519
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,760
But you're very welcome.

520
00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:26,820
It was my pleasure and thanks for the great questions.

521
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:27,520
Great.

522
00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:29,320
I'm happy to answer some later by email.

523
00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:29,720
Great.

524
00:53:30,060 --> 00:53:30,200
Yeah.

525
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,520
Please, everyone feel free to do so.

526
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:33,640
Thank you.

527
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:38,060
So on our second item is administration recommendations

528
00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:41,520
for divisions to the use and structure of boards and commissions.

529
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,060
It was a mouthful, wasn't it?

530
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,340
They were like, yeah.

531
00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:46,320
All right.

532
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,600
Good to see you all again.

533
00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:55,160
And I know that was a lot of information, which is fascinating.

534
00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:56,640
I love that kind of research.

535
00:53:57,580 --> 00:53:59,160
This too will be a lot of information.

536
00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:02,280
There is no specific action today.

537
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:09,360
Putting it in your heads, looking for initial feedback at what will happen next is

538
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:18,200
develop a schedule for the next steps and leading up to and I'll talk more about that but

539
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,540
other things that would need to be addressed that aren't necessarily included to what we're talking

540
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:30,000
about today. This started when I was a member of the thought for me started when I was a member of the

541
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,680
planning board, both moving from an alternative to an alternate to the member to the chair and then

542
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:41,020
of an observer of the city and then as mayor. So I've had these sort of three different perspectives.

543
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,220
And it actually, I don't even know if he recognizes, but I would say having a conversation with Ken

544
00:55:01,060 --> 00:55:09,840
Putting together a group to address it. So I tried to in building the task force, create sort of a 360 view of the world.

545
00:55:10,420 --> 00:55:20,380
So it includes me as the mayor, two council members, staff members, members, people who are on boards and commissions currently and community members.

546
00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:28,440
So there were people who had all of those views and if later, if you want to know who they are, I'm happy to share that.

547
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,180
So this will come to, this is my, these are my recommendations.

548
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:41,240
So taking in that feedback, as with any task force, as with any border commission that gives counsel to you all, you know,

549
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:46,780
it is data points that you then put into recommendations and ultimately decisions.

550
00:55:46,780 --> 00:55:54,740
So, what I'd like to do is go through it all before we take questions and, in effect, what we just did in your packets.

551
00:55:54,820 --> 00:56:02,820
I know you had the PowerPoint that was sort of a brief overview of everything including what I just shared with you.

552
00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:04,580
And there was an FAQ document.

553
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:12,820
And in the packet, there was also a spreadsheet that was another way of sort of looking at what all the recommendations are.

554
00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:17,460
So I know you had access to this, but let's go through it.

555
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,720
Whoa, I can, you can see it.

556
00:56:20,820 --> 00:56:23,560
I have lost you, but I'll deal with that.

557
00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:25,840
So pretend I can see you.

558
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:32,080
So the idea here is, how do we improve?

559
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,040
This is how do we improve our engagement with the community?

560
00:56:36,260 --> 00:56:38,000
This isn't about stepping away from it.

561
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,440
It is, we recognize that there are smart people out there

562
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:49,180
And there are different reasons we want to engage, sometimes it's to get information, sometimes it's to help, sometimes it's to do.

563
00:56:49,660 --> 00:56:52,140
So this is about how do we improve that?

564
00:56:52,900 --> 00:56:58,900
And many of our boards and commissions exist solely to provide guidance and help to the council.

565
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:06,120
So going after this in a way to sort of create, is very better model for doing this,

566
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,540
there where we can align, you know,

567
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,560
form and, you know, they're talking about

568
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,480
forms of fall of function.

569
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,180
So can we align structure with

570
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:15,080
our priorities and our capacity to do the work

571
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:15,840
and our outcomes?

572
00:57:16,980 --> 00:57:18,920
And we're in a different reality.

573
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,540
From when all of these things were all of this process

574
00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:25,520
and structure was created, like many things at the city,

575
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,400
it was sort of created through time based on an existing need.

576
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,780
Oh, you are not seeing my slideshow.

577
00:57:33,260 --> 00:57:33,420
No.

578
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,420
Well, maybe I need to do something about that whole line.

579
00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:40,600
Yeah, my screen is frozen too.

580
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,620
Is it?

581
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,540
Well, that's unfortunate.

582
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:47,380
Let me see if this works.

583
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:50,400
Okay, can you see that?

584
00:57:52,310 --> 00:57:54,710
That's in the lockout and lock back in.

585
00:57:54,910 --> 00:57:54,970
Okay.

586
00:57:55,450 --> 00:57:56,710
But the rest of you can see that?

587
00:57:56,770 --> 00:57:57,810
Can you pick a bigger?

588
00:57:58,110 --> 00:57:58,730
I think.

589
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:59,630
For...

590
00:57:59,630 --> 00:58:00,690
What's the most difficult laptops?

591
00:58:01,010 --> 00:58:01,310
Oh, that.

592
00:58:02,650 --> 00:58:06,330
or put it in a presentation mode.

593
00:58:06,450 --> 00:58:08,650
I did, and it's huge on my screen.

594
00:58:08,830 --> 00:58:13,230
Well, I see the side notes too, for the next slide.

595
00:58:13,610 --> 00:58:16,470
I think you're sharing your desktop versus projecting.

596
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:18,290
Well, that's your right.

597
00:58:19,330 --> 00:58:21,750
Does everyone have side-by-side galleries

598
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:25,090
as their display performance in Zoom?

599
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:29,250
Because I can affect how you see the screen screen as well.

600
00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:29,870
See?

601
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:36,480
Yeah, try that slide, Mike. This one? Yep.

602
00:58:38,350 --> 00:58:48,010
Yeah, I'm not, see, I'm hitting. Let me try a different way. Yeah. I'm gonna exit that. Okay, I'm gonna hit.

603
00:58:48,290 --> 00:58:48,690
I'm gonna hit,

604
00:58:50,930 --> 00:58:57,070
all right. It's only open here. I only have one presentation open. Hey, Becky!

605
00:58:58,490 --> 00:58:58,830
Hi, guys!

606
00:59:00,710 --> 00:59:02,010
So, there's the PowerPoint.

607
00:59:03,090 --> 00:59:04,810
And do you have this in presentation mode?

608
00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:07,370
You've had a lot of visitors on today's...

609
00:59:07,370 --> 00:59:10,090
Do that, but I have to share my screen so I have to get back to it.

610
00:59:10,110 --> 00:59:13,450
What you don't know is I was down in Vivian's office trying to help her.

611
00:59:13,830 --> 00:59:14,750
It was indeed.

612
00:59:16,190 --> 00:59:17,050
Oh shit, today.

613
00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:18,510
It's a two.

614
00:59:18,970 --> 00:59:19,550
I do, bro.

615
00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:22,210
It takes a village.

616
00:59:23,590 --> 00:59:25,210
And I want to sit over here saying,

617
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:26,590
Interpicture and picture automatically.

618
00:59:28,270 --> 00:59:28,470
No.

619
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:31,810
Come on.

620
00:59:33,070 --> 00:59:35,470
Let me try this one.

621
00:59:36,370 --> 00:59:40,290
If you would like to send it to me I can drive and you can just

622
00:59:40,290 --> 00:59:42,730
prom me to go to the next slide.

623
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:45,570
It's attached in the packet.

624
00:59:46,110 --> 00:59:46,510
It's attached.

625
00:59:46,850 --> 00:59:48,090
But I can do it this way.

626
00:59:50,810 --> 00:59:51,290
Oops.

627
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:54,290
Well, I'm sorry about this.

628
00:59:54,990 --> 00:59:56,770
This is like only 120 a time.

629
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:58,230
I've done something like this.

630
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:59,590
and like the ball head finishes.

631
01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:04,340
This is like only the hundred and twenty of time. I've done something like this.

632
01:00:04,340 --> 01:00:06,700
I like the ballhead of your issues last week,

633
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:11,750
so.

634
01:00:12,070 --> 01:00:15,350
Mayor, I wonder if Todd would be willing to show the slide, maybe?

635
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:20,790
I think he's gone. Oh, there he is. Well, Luke, I just added to Luke, so hopefully he can.

636
01:00:21,350 --> 01:00:21,650
Okay.

637
01:00:22,570 --> 01:00:26,390
All right. So, what are you trying to say that Todd knows how to do this better than I do?

638
01:00:27,710 --> 01:00:31,490
I've had success in the last 24 hours with it.

639
01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:33,390
I'm sure you've got a technical glitch.

640
01:00:35,310 --> 01:00:36,150
It is.

641
01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:39,040
Did you get it?

642
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:42,300
I did.

643
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,660
I have it open.

644
01:00:43,820 --> 01:00:44,740
Give me just one moment.

645
01:00:58,420 --> 01:00:59,580
Are you able to see that?

646
01:01:00,380 --> 01:01:00,700
Yes.

647
01:01:01,820 --> 01:01:01,960
Okay.

648
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:02,200
Thank you.

649
01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:02,620
So much.

650
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:03,180
All right.

651
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,600
So go ahead and change the next sign.

652
01:01:06,380 --> 01:01:07,780
I'll just say there were next each time.

653
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,200
So this is the sort of you heard me say these words.

654
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,720
Go to the next please.

655
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:19,820
So, this is where I was and, you know, this is sort of recognizing the world is different.

656
01:01:20,540 --> 01:01:24,880
In the same way that many of our codes existed, we're sort of patched together based on an immediate need.

657
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:30,600
That is, in many cases, how the boards and commissions were created over time.

658
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:39,040
And, you know, as we have learned through many things, opportunity, opportunity can happen when there are issues in the world.

659
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,920
And so we had to make very difficult decisions

660
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,140
because of the financial constraints we're in.

661
01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:48,940
We pause the boards and commissions to help try

662
01:01:48,940 --> 01:01:51,420
to stabilize things for a while, staff capacity

663
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,820
was and is continues to be limited

664
01:01:55,780 --> 01:01:58,800
and the expectations appropriately

665
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,880
for accountability and results are higher than ever next.

666
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:09,530
So that's the opportunity that I saw in all of this

667
01:02:09,530 --> 01:02:38,370
During this, it allowed the time, you know, so as I shared this was something that had been going through my mind for quite some time and it allowed me to sort of go to the balcony and sort of think about it, put together the task force. So, you know, what to be able to ask these kinds of questions, what is the purpose, why did we create these and where and how do they have the very most value and how do we align this with not only what we're dealing with today, but most things we're doing.

668
01:02:38,370 --> 01:02:43,830
we are talking about the future and how to impact it. So how can we align all of that next?

669
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:52,060
So what we did learn is that we're getting, you know, there is strong input, but there is some

670
01:02:52,060 --> 01:03:00,500
inconsistency in terms of not only structure but how these things are being utilized. So the value of

671
01:03:00,500 --> 01:03:07,420
boards varies widely across council and staff. And I think everybody sort of has their favorite

672
01:03:07,420 --> 01:03:15,420
or in some cases they're favored individuals or they're favored portion of it or experience with it.

673
01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:22,420
In many cases I don't think it's a stretch to say the roles and expectations are not always clear to

674
01:03:23,660 --> 01:03:31,500
the participants in the room and in many cases they've done a good job as happens in any volunteer organization.

675
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:37,180
if you don't give people very specific here as our ass, they'll figure out something to do.

676
01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:44,200
Some of our boards are underutilized and potentially duplicative in terms of the kinds of

677
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:50,960
ass, we're asking of them. And it is a heavy lip. It isn't, you know, I think you all can relate to,

678
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:56,720
have you ever walked out of a meeting with something not added to your to-do list. So for staff,

679
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,480
but it's not just the preparation for meeting

680
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,180
and being at the meeting and then there's all that follow up

681
01:04:02,180 --> 01:04:04,320
and usually there is additional work involved.

682
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,660
So it is more than just the time that takes place

683
01:04:07,660 --> 01:04:10,220
and it should be because there should be value in all of this.

684
01:04:10,620 --> 01:04:14,500
So, but it is we have to recognize with staff,

685
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,200
we're basically hiring staff for a very specific amount of time.

686
01:04:19,220 --> 01:04:21,980
Here's how many hours we get for it with them

687
01:04:21,980 --> 01:04:24,200
in that also comes their vacation

688
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,040
And they're holiday and they're sick time.

689
01:04:27,380 --> 01:04:32,760
So if you think 2008 years is a year and then you take those out and you're something

690
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,800
less than 2000 hours for each individual, you know, we need to look at that as what is

691
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,180
the best investment of time for each investment.

692
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,980
What is the best use of every one of those hours?

693
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,940
And that needs to also be a part of this consideration because that is one of your assets.

694
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:46,700
Next.

695
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:54,780
So I think what we're looking for is, you know, how do we get clear outcomes and what can

696
01:04:54,780 --> 01:04:59,980
create as a better system to do it. So some of the things that I think in doing this that we want to.

697
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:08,500
We don't have, how do we tap that? And can we get a stronger, more direct community voice? Is there a process

698
01:05:08,500 --> 01:05:14,740
to improve our decision-making and using these to help better improve our decision-making process?

699
01:05:15,180 --> 01:05:25,900
More diverse participation, and as you were talking about, as you looked at the research, we have community members,

700
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:29,980
I think,

701
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:48,000
You know, think of them in this sort of category, so a lot of people, you know, have very busy lives and busy families, other people, you know, just culturally even kind of participation can be limited and challenging because of cultural differences and how you engage in these kinds of things.

702
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,800
And then of course, can we be very, very efficient in our use of time and resources next.

703
01:05:55,210 --> 01:06:06,830
So I'm going to go through the recommendations, as I mentioned, I'll go through them sort of in the slides and they are also summarizing that big Excel sheet, but we'll just talk through them next.

704
01:06:08,570 --> 01:06:13,510
So guiding principles, so you know, how do we get the right structure for the right purpose?

705
01:06:14,930 --> 01:06:24,130
So some of the guiding principles that we're in my head is it's going through this, in addition to all the things I've already talked about is not all work requires a permanent board

706
01:06:24,130 --> 01:06:27,430
or a permanent inter-word here.

707
01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:30,890
So sometimes, we don't need them for a long period of time.

708
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:34,310
And I have, I think done seven or eight of those

709
01:06:34,310 --> 01:06:36,430
where sometimes, like in this case,

710
01:06:36,550 --> 01:06:38,250
there were multiple meetings, in some cases,

711
01:06:38,270 --> 01:06:39,370
it's one meeting.

712
01:06:40,010 --> 01:06:42,090
Can we match a structure to the task,

713
01:06:42,290 --> 01:06:47,350
instead of assuming that we need a full all-the-time structure

714
01:06:48,050 --> 01:06:50,090
to do something that might be better done

715
01:06:50,090 --> 01:06:52,410
as a one-off as a task?

716
01:06:52,410 --> 01:07:00,530
Can we be, let's try to maintain some flexibility and adaptability given sometimes on planned

717
01:07:00,530 --> 01:07:04,410
opportunities, or need we haven't considered when we designed this, so can we be flexible

718
01:07:04,410 --> 01:07:09,070
and adaptable, and then focus on impact and that tradition.

719
01:07:10,310 --> 01:07:15,530
So I frequently try to force myself to say, if I were to start over and had nothing to

720
01:07:15,530 --> 01:07:18,450
sort of draw from in a blank page, is this what I would have created?

721
01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:24,590
So trying to keep that sort of an open mind to it.

722
01:07:24,770 --> 01:07:28,190
So bottom line, can we get the right people in the right structure

723
01:07:28,190 --> 01:07:32,110
at the right time to do what we need next?

724
01:07:33,590 --> 01:07:34,650
This is the spreadsheet.

725
01:07:35,950 --> 01:07:40,710
And I'm just referencing that on one page it sort of all exists there,

726
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:42,970
well it's actually two pages, but they look a lot alike.

727
01:07:43,890 --> 01:07:44,030
Next.

728
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:52,640
So, what's not changing? These are RCW's. So, we have to have the Civil Service Commission.

729
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:57,320
We have to have a disability board. We have to have a large tax advisory board.

730
01:07:57,660 --> 01:08:03,480
You would think we have to have a planning board. But in fact, that isn't necessarily true.

731
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,220
But if you have one, you know, so it's sort of an if then kind of a thing.

732
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:11,080
But it's not an RCW requirement.

733
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:17,680
but I put it in the category of not changing because I think that would be it's my expectation

734
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,760
or for recommendation and I believe we have operated under that sort of assumption. Next.

735
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,920
So again, as I mentioned earlier, just saying in another way, how do we move from one size to

736
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:34,860
it's all born structure to a right structure to the right function?

737
01:08:38,610 --> 01:08:38,770
Next.

738
01:08:39,390 --> 01:08:48,450
One of the things that's also, I felt was important is the language, we are not consistent in our terms.

739
01:08:49,250 --> 01:09:00,630
And I felt it would be good to create sort of a language in definitions, which would not only help form the structure, but also help us understand the different sort of purposes and needs.

740
01:09:00,630 --> 01:09:06,670
So, a board, like a planning board, at the highest level, is policy focused and has some

741
01:09:06,670 --> 01:09:14,130
quite quasi-judicial operation, a board, a task force, bring them together, solve a problem,

742
01:09:14,490 --> 01:09:15,890
and then they can go away.

743
01:09:16,510 --> 01:09:21,710
A work group, we've used that example as well, where we look at them and counsels, in some

744
01:09:21,710 --> 01:09:26,070
cases, create some of their own, where you will divide up and say, hey, will you guys sort

745
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:28,850
roll up your sleeves and work on this.

746
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:31,470
A committee would be a subgroup of a large group.

747
01:09:31,490 --> 01:09:33,410
Council also does this on their own.

748
01:09:33,650 --> 01:09:38,170
You have the council and then you have created a committee structure

749
01:09:38,170 --> 01:09:40,450
so you're a subgroup of a larger group.

750
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:12,980
And a community perspective panel. So, in the same way that I have brought in groups to help me in the interview process. So, a small group to evaluate or discuss,

751
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:23,940
I would also say that what Todd referred to when he and I did those focus groups last year that that could be considered a panel.

752
01:10:23,940 --> 01:10:31,140
A liaison, so this would be council, you know, council has a representative, but the

753
01:10:31,140 --> 01:10:36,380
part, the part has a representative of the council. So it is the bridge between two

754
01:10:36,380 --> 01:10:43,260
organizations and emphasis on the word organizations. And then I'm suggesting that we do

755
01:10:43,260 --> 01:10:52,280
not use the words cabinet or commissions. Those have very specific kinds of definitions.

756
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:57,620
And so I'm just, again, my recommendation for those next.

757
01:11:02,410 --> 01:11:03,130
Thank you.

758
01:11:03,390 --> 01:11:04,610
So let's jump in.

759
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:07,470
Combine the planning board in the architectural board.

760
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:12,070
So it has been, in my experience, when I was on the planning board,

761
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:14,030
that there was always the feeling of,

762
01:11:14,030 --> 01:11:16,470
wow, we should be attached more to the architectural board,

763
01:11:17,450 --> 01:11:19,510
that we should be meeting more often or discussing

764
01:11:19,900 --> 01:11:21,530
or often the architectural board.

765
01:11:21,550 --> 01:11:24,230
I know who has had a similar sort of feeling like,

766
01:11:24,230 --> 01:11:29,170
we have a lot to offer. A lot of these things could be somewhat attached to the hip.

767
01:11:31,210 --> 01:11:38,550
So I had gone down a path to the architectural board. There was a very specific times when

768
01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:45,450
they are really a much more sort of a heavier lift. But my recommendation came to

769
01:11:45,450 --> 01:11:51,610
after thinking about this a lot was to combine them, expand to either seven or nine regular

770
01:11:51,610 --> 01:11:56,050
members with an alternative, but have three require position. So as you know the architectural

771
01:11:56,050 --> 01:12:01,950
design board currently has, you were crude for very specific expertise. So I'm suggesting that

772
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:07,090
you combine the two and then have three of those positions be one an architect, one a builder,

773
01:12:07,190 --> 01:12:16,130
and one landscape architect. Next. Salary Commission, you guys have been talking a lot about that.

774
01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:19,490
I don't know that we need to go into it,

775
01:12:19,870 --> 01:12:24,270
but I'm basically recommending what you just sort of did.

776
01:12:25,330 --> 01:12:25,350
Next.

777
01:12:27,490 --> 01:12:28,570
Transportation Commission.

778
01:12:31,250 --> 01:12:36,610
So, and in the spreadsheet, in the Excel sheet,

779
01:12:37,650 --> 01:12:40,290
you'll notice that I had the current titles

780
01:12:40,290 --> 01:12:42,570
and then what I recommend for the titles

781
01:12:42,570 --> 01:12:44,830
so that it would conform to that definition

782
01:12:44,830 --> 01:12:48,330
that I had originally, that I have just given to you.

783
01:12:48,930 --> 01:12:50,550
So, on here, the Transportation Committee,

784
01:12:50,850 --> 01:12:54,150
I'm recommending, I'm recommending, maintain no codification,

785
01:12:54,350 --> 01:12:56,670
change the name to a Transportation Work Group,

786
01:12:56,990 --> 01:13:00,210
a sample as needed to support the development of a Transportation Plan.

787
01:13:01,550 --> 01:13:03,970
So, we need them every four or five years,

788
01:13:04,170 --> 01:13:06,290
bring them together for those kinds of things.

789
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:11,770
Obviously, with any of these, you can bring people together if needed for a specific,

790
01:13:11,770 --> 01:13:20,930
But in this case, non-codified change into a work group, bring them together in this case for the transportation plan every four to five years.

791
01:13:21,370 --> 01:13:22,770
As we just did next.

792
01:13:24,850 --> 01:13:27,090
I feel like I should have one of those clickers click.

793
01:13:27,690 --> 01:13:28,210
Treeboard.

794
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:33,370
I'm recommending transition it to a panel, removing it from the code,

795
01:13:33,570 --> 01:13:38,370
and then recruiting specific tap that recruit for very specific tasks,

796
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:40,810
such as advising on the tree code.

797
01:13:40,810 --> 01:13:55,070
So you would recruit people specifically for the, you know, here is the task, what are the kinds of skills and interest we would need and recruit for that very specific purpose, but not not isn't ongoing.

798
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:56,290
Next.

799
01:13:58,030 --> 01:14:07,610
Economic development commission again, I would remove it from the code transition it to an advisory panel and then recruit for specific tasks.

800
01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:14,770
So you guys just had a really great experience with that, as they, you know, broke it

801
01:14:14,770 --> 01:14:20,190
to basically the current economic development commission, assembled broken into groups

802
01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:22,610
and then did these various specific tasks.

803
01:14:23,570 --> 01:14:28,010
I think the kinds of people, depending on the type of economic development that we are looking

804
01:14:28,010 --> 01:14:33,170
to do, the nature of the people that you would recruit for their expertise or experience

805
01:14:33,170 --> 01:14:37,830
or passions might be different, and this would allow for that to happen as opposed to bringing

806
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:43,630
together people who may be a mix or may be generalist, but I think it's also really important

807
01:14:43,630 --> 01:14:48,730
to maintain some continuity and economic developments. It's a lot of it is, you know, what can we

808
01:14:48,730 --> 01:14:53,810
do in the midterm and what can we do long-term and having different strategies within all of

809
01:14:53,810 --> 01:14:59,390
those things? So this suggestion would be to the recommendation would be to have a chair and a co-chair

810
01:14:59,390 --> 01:14:59,870
Who?

811
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:26,520
As needed, which, you know, can't happen with everything. This is something that I believe that we as a community need to, it's unfortunate, wouldn't it be nice if just everything we did automatically fell through those filters, that we didn't have to remind ourselves that those filters should even exist, but we do need to.

812
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,680
And we sometimes forget about that.

813
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,920
And I am very guilty of it.

814
01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:33,040
Even some of the simplest things

815
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,540
that you know I did one of our presentations

816
01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:37,100
at the theater for all sorts of reasons.

817
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:38,000
I chose that.

818
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,980
But then it's like, yeah, the restrooms are on the second floor.

819
01:15:41,980 --> 01:15:42,800
And there's only steps.

820
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:48,140
So I believe this group is still essential to the city.

821
01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:53,480
But I think, again, through all the parameters

822
01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:58,120
that I discussed before, making them an advisory panel, definitely putting them together

823
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,240
quarterly, and then if we have special like, you know, we could use your help as we're thinking

824
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,120
about blank. Next,

825
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:11,920
the Starc Preservation Commission. At one point, I will share with you that I

826
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:18,560
thought about, I wonder if it would make sense for this to move over to the historic society

827
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:26,100
to the museum to do if that is, that is where that passion lies and what it makes sense

828
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:37,560
for them to adopt or absorb this particular work. It can't do that, and so the recommendation

829
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:43,040
is keep it in the code, transition it to an advisory board meet quarterly. I think the nature

830
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:49,320
the work that they're doing would be fine at that, and then like with the other ones then create

831
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:55,620
sort of special project committees, so subgroups as required. For example, the designations

832
01:16:55,620 --> 01:17:00,460
of buildings, another subgroup or committee could have been helped with the Native American

833
01:17:00,460 --> 01:17:06,820
historic walkie tour as two examples. So that's that recommendation next.

834
01:17:08,900 --> 01:17:21,000
Arts Commission. As you know, we, many of us, me very included, I don't know if I can claim to be the biggest champion, but we do have a creative economy.

835
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:28,700
It is one of our distinctions, and I believe we need to exploit that and grow it.

836
01:17:28,900 --> 01:17:38,340
It is a very large differentiator that we have going for us here in the community when you live in a region that has as many choices.

837
01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:48,220
is as we do. I think exploiting and growing the creative economy here is very, very important.

838
01:17:50,380 --> 01:17:56,940
So I definitely think it ought to stay, stay as codification. I do see a potential that at some

839
01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:04,000
point, if there is, you know, we had talked, you guys had had deliberated for deliberated for a while

840
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:11,280
about the cultural access tax, I think at some point there could be power if we would want

841
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:17,040
to make sure that they are healthy and thriving and can't thrive. So I could see us trying

842
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:22,280
to get to a point where we could secure enough funding that they could be a spin-off as they're

843
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,540
in the same way that there are chambers of conferences for those kinds of purposes that we could

844
01:18:26,540 --> 01:18:32,000
potentially create that kind of a thriving arts commission that has its own stable funding

845
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:38,400
source and then the city just becomes another champion and and and primary member of it.

846
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:43,500
So I can sort of see a potential future, but in the meantime, I think we need to do a lot of

847
01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:46,100
carrying and feeding in this area. Next.

848
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:53,880
Parts. This one, there's a lot to explain in this one.

849
01:18:56,020 --> 01:19:02,480
Initially, at some point, again, looking to the future. So if I were to look down the future

850
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:06,300
to what the idea would be, it would be to have a parks board.

851
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,480
That's going to take some time to get to.

852
01:19:11,620 --> 01:19:15,560
And I always felt that on the planning board, you know,

853
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:21,400
who currently the planning board has the responsibility for being the parks board,

854
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,840
and I personally would recruit totally different people for our parks board,

855
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,960
and then I would recruit for a planning board.

856
01:19:28,380 --> 01:19:31,300
And the reality is we, and then I think the reality is still,

857
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,980
That it's hard to even get airtime with them to be able to advance it. So I think we could sort of start moving in that way by creating a parks advisory board, keep it on codify, and then start moving in that direction. One of the things that would have to happen is that we would need to modify, you need to do some other modifications, because the, the cap, like for example, the city's parks capital programs have to be reviewed and recommended by the planning board.

858
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:39,100
And that's a minimum of two meetings of presentations plus the Q&A's, plus the public hearing, and then it goes to council, so under the current format, this would just make it much more cumbersome.

859
01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:47,000
So this is sort of a step process, but you can see the vision of what I'm recommending. Next.

860
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:54,700
cemetery board. I am suggesting that as much as I love the cemetery and apparently that's

861
01:20:54,700 --> 01:21:00,600
where former mirrors go, I'm not sure it's necessarily the, you know, given the kinds of choices

862
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:06,040
that we have to make. And obviously we have to investigate what it would take, but I'm suggesting

863
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:12,360
that we explore the feasibility of transferring ownership of it to a non-profit, but as a part

864
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:19,060
that transition. There are things that I think the city cherishes and finds value in such

865
01:21:19,060 --> 01:21:23,680
as the memorial day event, the walk back and time kinds of events. So we would want to continue

866
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:29,000
and make sure that those kinds of opportunities would still exist. And again, I know there is

867
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,820
a lot of information that have been collected in terms of even what the feasibility is and the rules

868
01:21:33,820 --> 01:21:39,740
would that be in terms of how we acquired it and what the rules of that are. But I am wondering at

869
01:21:39,740 --> 01:21:45,280
time in our evolution and with our demands, is that a business we ought to be in. Next.

870
01:21:47,140 --> 01:21:48,300
Sister City Commission,

871
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,420
this is another evolution. Again, I'm suggesting that we

872
01:21:54,420 --> 01:22:02,180
remove it from code, eventually, and I'll explain, I'm sorry, I don't know why my phone isn't

873
01:22:02,180 --> 01:22:08,740
I mean, we would transition it to a work group, so consistency with titles.

874
01:22:09,420 --> 01:22:16,580
We would unfreeze it now through 2028, so they need to start planning like immediately

875
01:22:16,580 --> 01:22:23,020
so that they can do the exchange and then do the as adult exchange in 2027.

876
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,160
So they sort of need to know and have some certainty to that, so I'm recommending we go ahead

877
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:33,600
and freeze it. But in the meantime, we immediately started exploring the transition to an unprofit.

878
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:41,080
And my personal commitment would be that I would help try to find, you know, legal support

879
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:47,060
to make that happen without cost, you know, to find some provonal support that I would help and I have

880
01:22:47,060 --> 01:22:52,940
already given them an outline of what I think a board structure would look like to create the kind of

881
01:22:52,940 --> 01:22:57,880
board that would be needed and that I would help sort of in the recruitment of that. So again,

882
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:09,660
And this is the there are two other opportunities that I see in doing this I've reached out to other cities in the region to think if they to see if they might share interest in doing this.

883
01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:20,520
For example, imagine if we had a sister city and the focus was entirely focused on business or another one on culture or another one just on the arts or I'm sorry or on education.

884
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,400
And imagine if we had multiple sister cities,

885
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,420
person that had like one closer to the equator.

886
01:23:27,220 --> 01:23:32,420
So I could see this model, Seattle is obviously much more mature

887
01:23:32,420 --> 01:23:33,540
and involved in this.

888
01:23:33,580 --> 01:23:35,920
I think they have something like 11 or 13 of these.

889
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,260
Each one is a separate nonprofit.

890
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:40,640
So next.

891
01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:44,120
Yes, Commission, suggesting that we move it

892
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,620
from code transition to a advisory board.

893
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,200
I would recommend we broaden the age

894
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:54,160
because the turnover of sort of our access to them is so brief.

895
01:23:54,420 --> 01:23:59,380
My feeling is that this is a voice that has been under utilized.

896
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,680
And I would, so rather than sort of having this group and some of the projects

897
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:11,040
they've done in the past is like show up at events and pass out trees, those kinds of things.

898
01:24:11,380 --> 01:24:16,120
And I see that the value of, and like I included them on this task force,

899
01:24:16,740 --> 01:24:32,900
Their voice should be heard and I think we should encourage all of the boards and all the different structures that we've been talking about to sort of where we would create this roster of young voices and that could be accessed by these groups and task forces.

900
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:43,980
I would also recommend that we bring them together twice a year with very specific motives in that to, you know, I see this also is a great focus group opportunity on a larger scale.

901
01:25:00,820 --> 01:25:08,660
It's also one of the problems I believe in government is how do we create a pathway toward

902
01:25:08,660 --> 01:25:15,180
individuals to want to be more active in government, volunteer on these things or run for office.

903
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:22,420
And that's one of the things I didn't say at front that I see a huge potential while we talk to the end of the

904
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:29,020
because it's another benefit I think in all of this. Next,

905
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:32,610
climate protection committee

906
01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:39,590
maintain the non-photocotification transition to a task force, continue this suspension

907
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:44,310
but recruit for very specific needs. So like the Complan climate element,

908
01:25:44,710 --> 01:25:49,970
revising the climate action plan, technical advice on specific initiatives. So again,

909
01:25:50,710 --> 01:25:58,890
bringing together people for very specific types of purposes, guidance, support, hands-on,

910
01:25:58,910 --> 01:26:04,450
kinds of work, and there are, you know, when you think about climate protection, that

911
01:26:04,450 --> 01:26:12,610
crosses so many categories of influence and impact, so being able to recruit specifically for

912
01:26:12,610 --> 01:26:17,310
those needs, as well as the bigger lifts that the city itself has for things like the

913
01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:17,650
plan.

914
01:26:20,230 --> 01:26:24,150
Next. Interestingly, we have a municipal

915
01:26:24,150 --> 01:26:26,750
events commission. You might not have known that. It was a

916
01:26:26,750 --> 01:26:31,610
established in 1941. And I think it was an anticipation of what

917
01:26:31,610 --> 01:26:34,950
we do should there be a war that we need to prepare for. So I'm

918
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:38,450
suggesting, as fun as it might be to keep it around. Maybe you want to

919
01:26:38,450 --> 01:26:45,370
eliminate it. Next. Liaisons. So I would

920
01:26:45,370 --> 01:26:54,070
I'm recommending that we do keep them, but at a level that is like with external organizations

921
01:26:54,070 --> 01:27:00,290
such as the port or, you know, the county stuff.

922
01:27:00,970 --> 01:27:06,010
But I am also recommending, you have to ensure the autonomy of community member engagement

923
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:12,770
to discontinue the liaisans for the groups that we talked about before that the purpose

924
01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:20,450
of bringing the community members in is to give them the opportunity to offer their guidance and their advice

925
01:27:20,450 --> 01:27:22,390
and to do the work.

926
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:29,270
So I likely asons, but in the level of things like the port,

927
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:39,510
in this area, I'm suggesting that they be discontinued. Next. Here in examiner,

928
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:45,590
just this more of like a house cleaning kind of a thing. Next,

929
01:27:48,660 --> 01:28:10,320
the Edmund City Code, so there are things I'm not talking about today that we also need to, and that will be one of the next steps in this process, is we need to create, not only are we inconsistent in our terms, in what do we call these things, we're inconsistent in who appoints them or who gets to confirm them or what are their terms.

930
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:14,780
And we need to create consistency in that.

931
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,160
So as I collect your feedback from that,

932
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:23,080
we will start and we'll create a draft of these kinds of things

933
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,320
for that will be one of the next things you see is

934
01:28:27,260 --> 01:28:31,740
applying, trying to apply those kinds of things to those recommendations.

935
01:28:35,020 --> 01:28:35,960
And next,

936
01:28:39,980 --> 01:28:41,900
I also think that this, you know,

937
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:48,290
the world changes, if we need to be making sure that we're modifying and course

938
01:28:48,290 --> 01:28:53,790
correcting as we go. So I would suggest that we look at this on a regular

939
01:28:53,790 --> 01:29:00,110
periodic time period to say, because you know, you are any one of these groups, right?

940
01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:06,510
And that was one of the questions, you know, I had a question error that I worked with

941
01:29:06,510 --> 01:29:10,890
the task force on and there were surveys and we asked that sort of question, you know,

942
01:29:10,890 --> 01:29:12,930
If it didn't exist, what would you create?

943
01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:16,570
If it did exist, what would you keep or what we need anymore?

944
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:20,510
If you're creating an organization as council to give you guidance,

945
01:29:20,890 --> 01:29:23,750
then there needs to be a, what do I want from them?

946
01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:24,990
And how am I going to get it?

947
01:29:25,250 --> 01:29:26,910
And how will they get their information, right?

948
01:29:26,910 --> 01:29:30,050
And what is the appropriate structure or individuals to do that?

949
01:29:30,810 --> 01:29:35,950
So I think we need to revisit this and ensure that we are getting,

950
01:29:36,270 --> 01:29:40,150
and you're getting what you need for that period in time

951
01:29:40,150 --> 01:29:42,690
for the purposes that you have. Next.

952
01:29:44,970 --> 01:29:47,110
To clarify, we need to extend.

953
01:29:48,670 --> 01:29:51,810
Is there one OK for 15 minutes, and then we'll kind of read.

954
01:29:52,010 --> 01:29:53,850
Does it?

955
01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:56,410
15 minutes? OK. We'll extend to 445.

956
01:29:57,970 --> 01:29:59,970
Thank you, Council President. So what's next?

957
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,560
Effectiveness, inefficiencies. Next.

958
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,760
So, if you can stop sharing and then I have one more thing to say before questions.

959
01:30:10,140 --> 01:30:25,540
One of the things that when recruiting, you know, for a bigger long-term heavy lifts, you know, it's hard because people have lives. And it's like, hey, I know you haven't been involved in before. Please join the planning board and you only have to read 250 pages every so often.

960
01:30:25,540 --> 01:30:29,340
And if we create task forces and ask for somebody,

961
01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:31,180
it's like, could you come to three meetings?

962
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:32,700
Can I get you to do this?

963
01:30:32,940 --> 01:30:35,300
So we create an opportunity for more people

964
01:30:35,300 --> 01:30:37,900
because it's a shorter time period

965
01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:41,260
and hopefully we can gain a good first experience for them.

966
01:30:41,260 --> 01:30:43,280
And then we can start sort of upgrading them

967
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,520
as opposed to the first task being so tiring big.

968
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,240
Because I think we need to start,

969
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,840
we need to start creating the new use for the future

970
01:30:52,460 --> 01:30:53,740
and start younger.

971
01:30:53,740 --> 01:30:55,900
And so that was also part of my mind.

972
01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:58,980
And so there I have it, council president, over to you.

973
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:00,720
Okay, so we have questions.

974
01:31:01,140 --> 01:31:02,460
And again, this is the first touch.

975
01:31:02,740 --> 01:31:04,280
And we're not going to probably get them all done.

976
01:31:04,700 --> 01:31:05,680
But this is the first step.

977
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:06,580
And we're going to absorb it.

978
01:31:06,620 --> 01:31:07,940
But definitely want to have some opportunities.

979
01:31:08,780 --> 01:31:09,700
So, Chris, you're first.

980
01:31:10,820 --> 01:31:11,800
Yeah, thank you.

981
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,440
I've noodleed on this quite a bit and actually written a lot of feedback.

982
01:31:15,660 --> 01:31:17,040
But I first want to thank you, Mayor.

983
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,900
And all the participants who gave their time in their input on this.

984
01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:31,900
I think there's a lot of great gems, a lot of good ideas, and certainly, you know, I value all the expertise and thinking on this.

985
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:37,260
How well, and I've got a number of questions, but I know that we don't have time for that.

986
01:31:37,940 --> 01:31:49,120
So, how well do you think that this group really knew the existing boards and commissions and had insight into that?

987
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:58,120
because I know it was explained, but it's one thing to have it explained to you versus really kind of having that experience of what has been going on in those boards and commissions.

988
01:31:58,500 --> 01:32:04,520
And I know, you know, moving forward, we may not use the word commission, but just for the purposes of what's been existing.

989
01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:05,520
Yeah, fair.

990
01:32:06,460 --> 01:32:14,280
So my intent was to get a 360 because, you know, ultimately you are, in many cases, you're the only audience that counts.

991
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:18,720
because many of these serve at your pleasure and to provide you guidance.

992
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:24,560
So it's really not about, in many cases, to be sort of straight about it, you create them

993
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:31,420
because you want a voice to help you. They serve for you and at your pleasure.

994
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:37,460
But I did have invited five different commissions, members from five different commissions,

995
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,640
one of them said yes and then just wasn't able to participate. So there were four

996
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,700
commission members who were participating in this.

997
01:32:44,980 --> 01:32:51,220
We also did comparisons to other cities to see, you know,

998
01:32:51,340 --> 01:32:53,240
how do we compare and how are they doing?

999
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:59,960
We also did do a survey of council members, staff, directors,

1000
01:33:00,260 --> 01:33:01,920
and staff liaison towards the commission.

1001
01:33:02,420 --> 01:33:06,620
We're also surveyed as a part of this process as well.

1002
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:07,860
Thank you.

1003
01:33:07,900 --> 01:33:11,400
I have another question, but I'll wait till we go through the

1004
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:23,560
Thank you. Thank you very excited by the work of this career but I think that this has been very necessary when we look at the volume of the board's committees and commissions that we have in the city

1005
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,480
And very excited to see these unpaused

1006
01:33:26,340 --> 01:33:29,380
I'll give my feedback very swiftly and specifically

1007
01:33:30,020 --> 01:33:38,920
I think it would be a mistake to remove diversity equity inclusion and accessibility from the code and to reduce it to quarterly instead of monthly

1008
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,040
I don't think that's the feedback we're getting from our community in terms of how they would

1009
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,120
like to see government adapt into the future.

1010
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:51,260
It's also just a very unique group in the feedback they're able to provide us within the city,

1011
01:33:52,140 --> 01:33:57,100
especially when it comes to accessibility issues that end up costing us a lot of money

1012
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,360
if somebody decides to litigate with us.

1013
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,200
So I view that as potential cost savings.

1014
01:34:02,340 --> 01:34:05,380
I'm very excited to see the creation of a park sport.

1015
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:06,600
I've been saying that for years.

1016
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:16,820
I think it makes sense to fold Mayor's plant protection committee and the tree board into the park's board because they often overlap issues in the stakeholders that they engage in.

1017
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:24,760
And then finally, I just wanted to swiftly comment on the removal of council liaison and just caution the administration in that regard.

1018
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:35,460
What I've seen in ad hoc task force that are created entirely by members of the administration and I'm specifically going to go back to the much maligned.

1019
01:34:35,460 --> 01:34:43,180
um, waterfront connector. There is a great deal of confirmation bias in how certain members

1020
01:34:43,180 --> 01:34:47,500
of the administration pursue projects that they are personally passionate about or perspective

1021
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:53,900
that they highly value. And they only include people in the process that they sometimes

1022
01:34:53,900 --> 01:34:59,520
members of the administration only include people in the process who they feel would support their

1023
01:34:59,520 --> 01:34:59,940
Prups.

1024
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,780
Personal perspective or vision. And then when the public gets an opportunity to comment on this, some

1025
01:35:05,780 --> 01:35:13,000
years of work and investment of staff time go down the drain because the public hates it. I think that even though

1026
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:18,980
it might be challenging for certain members of the administration, including voices of dissent and making sure that we have the

1027
01:35:18,980 --> 01:35:26,200
independence of these boards and commissions through just council having eyes on these boards and commissions as an

1028
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:31,040
outside observer and non-voting member and be able to appoint people who might disagree with

1029
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:37,460
the specific staff member really adds value to the process. And finally, on structure purpose,

1030
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:43,380
I really think that what we do in our city, because other cities only have a planning and

1031
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:48,340
parks board and then they hire consultants for hundreds of dollars an hour to solicit community

1032
01:35:48,340 --> 01:35:52,700
feedback and engagement. What we are strategy has always been in the city is we just pull

1033
01:35:52,700 --> 01:35:57,500
volunteers and we ask them to staff these boards and commissions and provide us with that feedback

1034
01:35:57,500 --> 01:36:02,700
for free. And if we had to create an FTE to manage the surviving board's committees and commissions

1035
01:36:02,700 --> 01:36:07,500
I think that would still be a cost savings for the city versus having to engage consultants

1036
01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:13,680
to manage these ad hoc task force and potentially lead us to issues with confirmation bias where

1037
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:22,680
we end up with an outcome that's strongly out of touch with what the community wants. So that's my

1038
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:30,220
hard work. It's very necessary. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for putting

1039
01:36:30,220 --> 01:36:36,800
this all together. A lot of information to digest and I know that a lot of very thoughtful

1040
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:48,400
people were involved. I, you know, so off the top. My opinion is I think that we need to keep

1041
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:59,440
the Economic Development Commission and have assigned to, you know, parts of our work plan

1042
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:08,740
to continue to develop areas of focus in neighborhoods, the centers, as mentioned, to

1043
01:37:08,740 --> 01:37:14,600
a lesser extent, the hubs that also all along Highway 99, with, you know, have some specificity,

1044
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:20,160
I think that that's I think that that might be the missing ingredient for some of these

1045
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:30,900
groups. The DIA Commission was formed by council with a great deal of intention and their charter

1046
01:37:30,900 --> 01:37:41,520
is so powerful and supportive of the EIA and diversity and all of the work that comes with that.

1047
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:50,760
I think it was a very effective model and being able to control their work and control their

1048
01:37:50,760 --> 01:38:01,500
voice and have it be an honest broker for the communities that are represented in the

1049
01:38:01,500 --> 01:38:10,180
IA and making sure that we are focused on diversity, equity, inclusion and access and access

1050
01:38:10,180 --> 01:38:17,620
is such a big word that it really does encompass a lot of the things that we've had challenges

1051
01:38:17,620 --> 01:38:26,600
with. So I don't, you know, my opinion is that I don't want this dismantled and I would

1052
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:31,580
like to have the original chartered honor because it was such a powerful, powerful document.

1053
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:37,120
The tree board, you know, all of these things are formed by the Council as you recognize,

1054
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,460
This has been something that I think that we can do.

1055
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:48,360
The tree board and some of these other subgroups need to be pulled into a certain extent

1056
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:58,720
as the planning development group is done for guidance on the ordinances and that touch

1057
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:00,460
trees and the work there.

1058
01:39:01,140 --> 01:39:07,740
I think that that's one of the things that we should also be considering maybe rolling

1059
01:39:07,740 --> 01:39:09,700
into a whole different model.

1060
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:16,220
We have today, you know, in the slide lines in the side room, Georgian Armstrong, who's

1061
01:39:16,220 --> 01:39:20,340
the chair and the president of the climate advisory board.

1062
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:27,980
And she sent all of us a long document, which is very well, you know, sorted out in terms

1063
01:39:27,980 --> 01:39:36,120
of how this charter would work and it incorporates not everything perfectly, but incorporates

1064
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:29,820
You know, both obligated morally and also, you know, you know, legislatively to do and follow the and to support the climate action plan, to help work with some of the the tree board work and the urban forestry management plan, there are things that the climate advisory board has been working on in terms of all these things in terms of climate resilience and climate action.

1065
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:37,180
and they've been positioning themselves with two or three different grants to help support

1066
01:40:37,180 --> 01:40:44,020
the work that the city is doing and in conversation with the city. It's a model that I would

1067
01:40:44,020 --> 01:40:52,180
encourage everyone to take a look at, take a few steps at seeing how, you know, which pieces fit

1068
01:40:52,180 --> 01:40:59,560
and what things do and don't work well, but I think that there's room for for an opportunity here

1069
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:04,520
to use a larger outside commission to help work

1070
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:08,620
towards better access for the climate action plan.

1071
01:41:08,940 --> 01:41:10,760
There's going to be climate elements

1072
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:15,020
in the next rough management act, comprehensive plan,

1073
01:41:15,380 --> 01:41:19,480
and also work on other things like reducing vehicle miles

1074
01:41:19,480 --> 01:41:20,500
traveled, et cetera.

1075
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:26,640
So I want to put an upleg for that as well as also a model

1076
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,140
for using a non-profit to help

1077
01:41:29,140 --> 01:41:36,360
of the purposes of the city. And as a partner, my final comment is Alia Zanz, I think that

1078
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:43,300
it's very helpful for community groups to have a non-voting council member as Alia Zanz to provide

1079
01:41:43,300 --> 01:41:50,220
council updates, and on all the boards that I've served on before the pause, it was for a council

1080
01:41:50,220 --> 01:41:58,160
update. So thank you for that, and if I have other comments, I'll email them. Okay, thank you.

1081
01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:58,580
Thanks.

1082
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,100
Just real quick, and we have some more hands up.

1083
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:02,840
Is everybody okay to go to 450?

1084
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:04,100
That'll be a hard stop.

1085
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,840
But let's just try to get everybody through.

1086
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:06,500
I don't know why.

1087
01:42:06,580 --> 01:42:07,920
It's everybody okay to go.

1088
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:08,680
OK.

1089
01:42:09,220 --> 01:42:09,280
OK.

1090
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,320
OK, here you go.

1091
01:42:17,540 --> 01:42:20,020
I lowered my hand as opposed to entering the mic on.

1092
01:42:21,620 --> 01:42:23,640
I've given that economic development

1093
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,180
is one of our stated strategic priorities,

1094
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,560
and that we currently don't have a dedicated economic development

1095
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:29,820
lead.

1096
01:42:29,820 --> 01:42:32,380
I'm just trying to understand how the proposal

1097
01:42:32,380 --> 01:42:37,440
to kind of downgrade and downstructure the economic development commission kind of aligns with

1098
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:44,640
our need to really dial that focus area up. For the city specifically as you know council member

1099
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:51,180
pain mentioned we have a lot of plans that we need to action around our highway 99 revitalization

1100
01:42:51,740 --> 01:42:58,400
the the plans around our hubs and centers and port collaboration all of these really great

1101
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:04,480
opportunities that we need to start to plant the seed so that we can harvest later and I'm just a little

1102
01:43:04,480 --> 01:43:08,440
wanting to better understand you're thinking around kind of dialing that group back.

1103
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:17,900
And I appreciate it and I'm sorry that's the way it came back because anything that sounds like I don't want money.

1104
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:21,000
is incorrect.

1105
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:29,340
It was more of as there's a theme in a lot of this is like who I would recruit for a

1106
01:43:29,340 --> 01:43:32,620
tree board is who different than who I would recruit for a planning board.

1107
01:43:32,900 --> 01:43:37,720
So as we look at 99 and development opportunities up there, there might even be separate

1108
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:38,720
subgroups up there.

1109
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:45,380
It could be geomedical district versus housing or business, you know, in terms of that.

1110
01:43:45,380 --> 01:43:57,500
I would like us to be looking for is there an industry that doesn't need a lot of real estate but is drawn to quality of life in terms of that they would like to be.

1111
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:07,440
That's how biotech grew to see that because there were people who would like that quality of life and industry sprung around the gaming is another one of those that you know where people are.

1112
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:10,940
So that would be potentially even a different kind of a group.

1113
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:17,260
As we think about growing the arts, you know, that sector could be another in who.

1114
01:44:17,420 --> 01:44:24,640
So who we would recruit for those specific, I know Council Member Olsen has been sort of leading

1115
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:30,500
a charge to should we be exploring on a much more intense way, parking as another thing,

1116
01:44:30,620 --> 01:44:34,240
and that would be sort of another group in who you would recruit for that would probably

1117
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:34,840
be different.

1118
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:21,580
Justing that that be the chair and the co-chair to provide not only ongoing, but to ensure that. One point I talked with the idea of if we were to create those sort of subgroups, the chairs of those who potentially serve as the members of it, which would then create a link to all these initiatives. So I was talking with that for a while as another model.

1119
01:45:22,260 --> 01:45:26,280
All right. Yeah, that does help clarify. So thank you. I was moderately concerned there for a minute.

1120
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:37,500
And then I would also like to echo the removal of the non-boding council liaison's from these organizations.

1121
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:40,440
I don't necessarily see the benefit.

1122
01:45:40,700 --> 01:45:44,080
I'm struggling to see what the obstacle was we were hoping to overcome.

1123
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,780
I think that for those that the council members sit in on,

1124
01:45:48,940 --> 01:45:53,500
it's both for transparency that we can report back on what's going on with the boards and commissions,

1125
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:56,380
but also to help provide those groups with context,

1126
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,520
like they're kind of in from their day job,

1127
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:00,700
they may not know what else is going on with the city,

1128
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,380
they may not know why this is happening or that is happening.

1129
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,740
And we can just provide some general context

1130
01:46:06,740 --> 01:46:10,160
as to what's going on that might help them as they're working

1131
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,760
through whatever their work product is in front of them.

1132
01:46:12,820 --> 01:46:14,820
And as we're not, you know, we're cheap labor.

1133
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:18,920
So we can attend these meetings and kind of help out.

1134
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,320
I think a little bit more than we can if we're not

1135
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:27,380
a lot to participate. So that's just my two sets. But I will stop talking now. Thank you.

1136
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:28,560
Thank you. Well.

1137
01:46:31,250 --> 01:46:35,690
Yeah, thank you. I'll be quick. I think I appreciate the effort because

1138
01:46:35,690 --> 01:46:42,810
the current structure in the number of buzzing commision really kind of deming a lot of

1139
01:46:42,810 --> 01:46:51,890
step resources. So it's the right time to kind of visit it and move along a little bit. But in my

1140
01:46:51,890 --> 01:47:00,870
I kind of look at the city. What's our need? Our need is economic development, climate

1141
01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:10,930
controls as a city, planning and architectural because it's related to the cities, long-term,

1142
01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:19,670
well-being. So those are the big ones. And for the time being, I think the DIA, the commission,

1143
01:47:19,670 --> 01:47:30,170
And then we spend a lot of effort in energy into it and under the current kind of micro-climate.

1144
01:47:31,150 --> 01:47:35,650
I think there's still advantages and very to help that.

1145
01:47:36,250 --> 01:47:40,670
So I don't want to diminish it or reduce it.

1146
01:47:40,670 --> 01:47:46,970
just at this colon environment.

1147
01:47:49,370 --> 01:48:00,590
I also echo the consolidations to the chamber, to the board, to the port, those areas.

1148
01:48:01,410 --> 01:48:02,550
We are cheap labor.

1149
01:48:03,930 --> 01:48:12,490
And we can rotate, I mean, council members, we can rotate other members onto these projections.

1150
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:22,070
And if community members want to join us in partner as early as on team, that will be fine too.

1151
01:48:23,390 --> 01:48:34,290
So I think there is no gain for us to eliminate that, because we are essentially providing

1152
01:48:34,290 --> 01:48:39,410
that service for free unless there is a better structure.

1153
01:48:41,810 --> 01:48:48,370
So those are high level, I think we are coming up to 4.50, we have 2 minutes, so I want

1154
01:48:48,370 --> 01:48:53,330
You'll come up minutes to consumm and bag and also.

1155
01:48:53,730 --> 01:48:55,770
Okay, Vivian, have you spoken yet?

1156
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:56,930
I don't think you have.

1157
01:48:57,170 --> 01:48:58,210
Okay, I'll let you go next.

1158
01:48:59,290 --> 01:49:04,950
I mean, this full of defense emergency preparedness is the emergency prepared to something

1159
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:10,390
that could fall under that shedding, because I know that you are working with a group for

1160
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:10,890
that purpose.

1161
01:49:11,050 --> 01:49:15,030
It just occurred to me that wasn't something that had been on my radar before, and then

1162
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:19,830
According to liaison roles, I think that the reason why I was getting looked at it all was

1163
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:28,150
just about the influence of a council member on a board that's then advising council in the

1164
01:49:28,150 --> 01:49:28,370
mayor.

1165
01:49:29,630 --> 01:49:35,930
So we haven't had anything in rules of seizure or anything that was really very explicit about

1166
01:49:35,930 --> 01:49:37,230
what the

1167
01:49:39,370 --> 01:49:45,510
so I guess if we were keeping it and will come in about being for the poor or whatever,

1168
01:49:45,510 --> 01:49:50,230
I think that's what the administration is proposing that those would stay.

1169
01:49:50,370 --> 01:49:53,530
Ryan, eight would stay, late-ballinger, a forum would stay.

1170
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:59,610
He was proposing with us that we are not doing liaison's to the tree board.

1171
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,940
More explicit about what the Jews and joutes are for that role. That's all I have.

1172
01:50:07,780 --> 01:50:15,000
And then I'll go real quick on the, and then I think we have a minute for Chris to have your final point.

1173
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,900
Okay, thank you.

1174
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:18,740
Okay, thank you.

1175
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:26,580
One thing I wanted to talk about just real quick, I was a lot more, but it was just the transparency

1176
01:50:27,020 --> 01:50:30,980
and public accessibility of some of these panels and work groups that are behind the scenes,

1177
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:37,320
versus the more public ones, just the thought process, kind of behind that and how I know

1178
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:42,360
some work gets done behind the scenes, which is not a bad thing, but sometimes it can be a little

1179
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:47,760
bit hidden from view and then pop up kind of late in the game, so just the thought process

1180
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:55,280
around that as we're thinking about these. And I do want to echo, I know because some of us have

1181
01:50:55,280 --> 01:51:01,880
experience with certain boards or commissions and the backgrounds of them, and the impacts of them,

1182
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:05,760
you know, we're all going to come to it from different perspectives, so I think it's really valuable

1183
01:51:06,260 --> 01:51:12,860
that everybody participate, which I'm happy to everybody is, just so that we get that feedback as well,

1184
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:17,320
because what there really was only a few boards or commissions represented on that panel,

1185
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:23,220
compared to all the ones you had, at least in person. So I agree that you had someone's behind

1186
01:51:23,220 --> 01:51:32,020
So I just wanted to clarify that and then Chris, I'll give you a minute and then I'll let the Mayor wrap up and then we'll come on that stuff.

1187
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:33,720
Hey, I'm going to be super fast.

1188
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:38,320
So about the council liaison, I am concerned as a separate branch of government.

1189
01:51:38,580 --> 01:51:46,160
We absolutely have a place in these meetings as liaisons and I know we'll continue those conversations.

1190
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:51,020
And if someone's a bad actor or a stake in things too far, I think we do with that as opposed

1191
01:51:51,020 --> 01:51:57,900
to taking council liaison, so we do need a climate action committee, and they need to

1192
01:51:57,900 --> 01:51:58,520
meet monthly.

1193
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:03,400
We have a lot of work to do that we're really behind on, and that's a very important priority.

1194
01:52:04,740 --> 01:52:10,120
DEIA, our culture is one of the most important things about our city, and to me it's

1195
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:15,480
a priority, and if they just need quarterly, I don't know how they will be able to get

1196
01:52:15,480 --> 01:52:31,860
any work done, economic development, again, super high priority, and that's a, and I'm open to the recommendation that I really feel like it needs to be even more empty up than that. Thank you.

1197
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:42,540
Thank you. Mary, you want to wrap up and then next steps. This is just the first steps, so everyone, you know, we're not jumping to actions yet.

1198
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:48,460
Thanks for the call of fire and you're right and I really appreciate the comments really

1199
01:52:48,460 --> 01:52:56,260
thoughtful and I was hearing where there was consensus and it will be helpful so I will

1200
01:52:56,260 --> 01:53:04,720
be coming back with sort of revisions to this in influence by your comments ultimately you

1201
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:12,520
know these are you know as you pointed out and I did earlier these most of not what the

1202
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:14,800
So this is your ultimate decision.

1203
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:20,080
This is me giving a recommendation to Council on these things and you will decide, I think

1204
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:25,400
we will also do the part with the ordinance that tries to give some guidance or some suggestions

1205
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:31,820
on appointments, terms, those kinds of things and how that happens to bring some consistency

1206
01:53:31,820 --> 01:53:37,740
to it and also a schedule to get a suit of the process because as we think about the budget

1207
01:53:37,740 --> 01:53:45,420
and staff resources. This is a financial impact. And keep in mind any of these that meet at night

1208
01:53:45,420 --> 01:53:52,280
that have to be broad, you know, broadcasts it. If it's a union person, then we're paying over time

1209
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:57,300
unless we're shifting their time, which means they're not doing something during the day. So

1210
01:53:57,300 --> 01:54:03,380
that is a difference. So I really appreciate Council President Dash's comment about access and

1211
01:54:03,380 --> 01:54:09,780
it will deserve. In terms of are these things being, you know, is this, do we have to be recording them

1212
01:54:09,780 --> 01:54:15,500
and doing minutes and having them available live stream does have a financial impact as well. So anyway,

1213
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:22,380
that's the point of that was to say there is, I will try to do this in parallel as we're going through

1214
01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:28,180
the budget and I realize we're already starting to stack that part of the year. But I hope we can make it into

1215
01:54:28,180 --> 01:54:34,640
small bites and that they're consumable. I really do appreciate given what your lives have been

1216
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:38,160
like over the last couple weeks and just the amount of information you've had to go through

1217
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:45,440
your head. I appreciate your openness to this and the feedback. Well done. Thank you.

1218
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:13,560
Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. And with that, and then there will be follow-up and I'll be following up as well for council to be, you know, how we're going to collect all that information and the feedback. Now that we've had a first.