1 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,620 Okay, are you with applicant? 2 00:02:54,420 --> 00:02:56,760 Non, I oppose the project. 3 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,620 Do you know what agenda number is that you are? 4 00:03:07,090 --> 00:03:08,030 Thank you. 5 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Okay, give me a few minutes. 6 00:03:22,060 --> 00:03:22,180 Okay. 7 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,420 Thank you for having me. 8 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,460 Thank you for your attention. 9 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:32,340 I want to thank you for the support from the council and for the council. 10 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Okay. 11 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:35,640 Okay. 12 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,180 It's a good project. 13 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:35,030 Thank you very much. 14 00:04:37,020 --> 00:04:38,100 Have you had a meeting? 15 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,800 Ha ha ha ha. 16 00:04:50,140 --> 00:04:51,180 Can you solve the problem? 17 00:04:56,750 --> 00:04:56,950 Can you solve the problem? 18 00:04:58,290 --> 00:04:58,490 Yeah. 19 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,460 To the public, I 20 00:05:06,820 --> 00:05:15,280 don't know if that happens. Is it a one-on-one argument? 21 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:44,940 So, do you know what the address is for the item? 22 00:05:45,660 --> 00:05:48,800 It's the, uh, some, it's a table of value, water, 23 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:52,220 a crack looks, water of the kitchen, 24 00:05:52,940 --> 00:05:54,280 a corner of the brunch, he's doing, 25 00:05:54,660 --> 00:05:55,320 I don't know that. 26 00:05:55,940 --> 00:05:57,540 Oh, someone's like, it's this one. 27 00:05:57,740 --> 00:05:58,640 One way to rent it. 28 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,680 So you're only gonna have item eight points, yeah? 29 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:02,820 So, thanks for your support, that on that card. 30 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:04,840 Thank you. 31 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Thank you. 32 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Thank 33 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,240 you. 34 00:07:02,460 --> 00:07:03,080 Thank you. 35 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,320 So, can you put your phone in your door? 36 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:12,160 In the number two. 37 00:07:22,590 --> 00:07:24,650 Yes, yes, it is. 38 00:07:24,650 --> 00:07:26,150 Thank you. 39 00:07:31,970 --> 00:07:32,490 Yes, 40 00:07:34,650 --> 00:07:34,650 yes. 41 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:35,650 Yes, yes. 42 00:07:35,650 --> 00:07:35,830 Yes, yes. 43 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:36,850 Yes, yes. 44 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:39,490 Can you say that you also change to? 45 00:07:39,570 --> 00:07:41,430 And based on the smart material, can you? 46 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:42,410 You can have some answers. 47 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:43,970 Yes. 48 00:07:44,210 --> 00:07:44,730 Okay. 49 00:07:45,230 --> 00:07:47,310 You told us that you have three years. 50 00:07:48,210 --> 00:07:48,750 Three years? 51 00:07:48,750 --> 00:07:49,070 Yes. 52 00:07:49,310 --> 00:07:52,470 The other life of the math plus one. 53 00:07:52,590 --> 00:07:52,730 Yes. 54 00:07:53,050 --> 00:07:54,170 I'm not talking about that. 55 00:07:54,690 --> 00:07:54,930 Okay. 56 00:07:55,250 --> 00:07:55,310 Okay. 57 00:09:20,910 --> 00:09:23,190 That's number five, then right? 58 00:09:25,930 --> 00:09:26,870 All right. 59 00:09:27,210 --> 00:09:29,390 Number 11, where is the one you want to? 60 00:09:31,290 --> 00:09:31,850 Yeah. 61 00:09:32,170 --> 00:09:34,450 So if you say that, it's called number. 62 00:09:34,770 --> 00:09:37,530 After the final recommendation of the recommendation of the faculty. 63 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:39,550 So you're from the everybody's level of the faculty. 64 00:09:40,750 --> 00:09:43,730 So, okay, then okay, within the trauma, 65 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:45,530 they can still put a permit. 66 00:09:47,150 --> 00:09:48,790 After the recommendation of the faculty. 67 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:49,810 Okay. 68 00:09:50,350 --> 00:09:55,030 And P, okay, in a month, you have to record a map before you can put them away. 69 00:09:58,940 --> 00:09:59,500 You have a message. 70 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,820 Thank you, thank you. 71 00:13:35,660 --> 00:13:36,380 Good day. 72 00:13:37,820 --> 00:13:39,220 Pretty good, how are you? 73 00:13:40,380 --> 00:13:41,500 About 10-10. 74 00:13:41,660 --> 00:13:41,720 3. 75 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,220 8-10. 76 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,380 10. 77 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Always good. 78 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,460 10-10. 79 00:13:50,460 --> 00:13:50,900 Yeah, 9-10. 80 00:13:53,020 --> 00:13:53,740 10. 81 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:54,460 10. 82 00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:00,730 Great to see you. 83 00:14:02,370 --> 00:14:02,790 10-10. 84 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:03,830 10-10. 85 00:14:04,650 --> 00:14:06,590 10-10. 86 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:07,410 10-10. 87 00:14:07,470 --> 00:14:07,590 10. 88 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,400 10. 89 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,220 All gentlemen, the committee's voices were sent in the afternoon. 90 00:15:03,740 --> 00:15:08,360 Local government, public comment, motion, second, aye, the abstain, adjourned. 91 00:15:08,460 --> 00:15:10,160 Rest up to the meeting. 92 00:15:11,060 --> 00:15:16,260 More than one, more than one, more than one, more than one, more than one, more than one, more than one. 93 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:28,180 I'm all Jason's 94 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:48,200 here. 95 00:15:59,990 --> 00:16:05,750 I'm not a teacher, I'm not a teacher, I'm a teacher, 96 00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:11,590 I'm a teacher, 97 00:16:16,570 --> 00:16:16,850 I'm 98 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:19,470 a teacher. 99 00:16:19,470 --> 00:16:24,900 We call this meeting of the city of North Atlantic Commission. 100 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,420 According in progress. 101 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,700 We call this meeting of the city of North Atlantic Commission to order. 102 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,950 We please rise for the flag salute. 103 00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:39,990 Ready, begin. 104 00:16:41,210 --> 00:16:44,870 I'm pleased to lead you to the flag of the United States of America. 105 00:16:45,570 --> 00:16:47,650 And to the Republic for which it stands. 106 00:16:48,130 --> 00:16:49,950 One nation, under God. 107 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:53,210 And the Biscuits will put liberty and justice for all. 108 00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:54,850 Welcome. 109 00:17:00,860 --> 00:17:03,600 Let's try pressing the arrow here. 110 00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:06,940 Thank you. 111 00:17:06,940 --> 00:17:07,780 Can you show me the doll? 112 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:08,780 Here. 113 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,540 And let's open it like that. 114 00:17:11,940 --> 00:17:13,980 Can you show me your husband excuse absence? 115 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Okay, thank you. 116 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:20,000 I'll probably do it. 117 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,560 Can you show me the doll? 118 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:27,740 I'll show you the doll. 119 00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:29,100 I'll show you the doll. 120 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:31,040 This is a second-by-commission time machine. 121 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:33,900 Call for the boat, commissioning results. 122 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:35,340 I'm sure. 123 00:17:35,820 --> 00:17:35,840 I. 124 00:17:36,020 --> 00:17:37,900 And I finish up as well at 3.0. 125 00:17:40,130 --> 00:17:42,810 I don't remember five commissioning scores, commissioning results. 126 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:45,980 Question time show. 127 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,480 I just wanted to disclose that I do live within 300 feet of Agenda item 3-. 128 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,920 I mean, it's our 8-3 general planning and 0-3-23. 129 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,820 So I use live within proximity of it. 130 00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:04,620 That's just for the general planning ended. 131 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,620 So yeah, so he's going to make sure that I disclose that, that's all. 132 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:12,100 I think for myself. 133 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,980 Alright, I remember six public comments. 134 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,540 This is a solution to address a planning commission on land use and development matters may do so at this time. 135 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,580 Know that the commission cannot respond to you or taking action on the item. 136 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:33,280 This is an solution to speak on an agenda item with giving the opportunity to speak after the item is presented by staff. 137 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,940 Please let me get your comments to three months, 138 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,160 state your name and address for the record. 139 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,320 And the audience now hear for anything other than an agenda item. 140 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:47,720 Anybody on the Zoom, we're still doing a Zoom thing, right? 141 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,600 And the on Zoom that we'll like to speak on a land use of the value matter 142 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,060 that is not on the agenda. 143 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,920 Please raise your hand on the Zoom. 144 00:19:01,630 --> 00:19:03,450 And then as a hand raised. 145 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:04,630 All right. 146 00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:09,930 If you want to consent calendar, I don't know the same point 1 and 7.2. 147 00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:22,140 The minutes for the, um, uh, get by the team, uh, planning commission meeting. 148 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:24,400 I'm going to be left out of the agenda. 149 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,980 So we can include that next on the next agenda. 150 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:30,440 So we're doing a lot of item 7.2 from the consent calendar. 151 00:19:30,780 --> 00:19:31,020 Correct. 152 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,960 All right. So item 7.2 is removed. 153 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,540 We only have item 7.1 of consent calendar. 154 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:38,980 Is it? 155 00:19:38,980 --> 00:19:40,160 Oh, I put the picture. 156 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,380 Not the same point three is the time extension. 157 00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:47,580 That's the same thing. 158 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:48,760 Is it? 159 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Oh, 160 00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:57,390 that makes sense. 161 00:19:59,280 --> 00:19:59,980 Motion is in. 162 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:10,920 Exception, anybody wants to take to item 7.3 million consent, or do we want to roll it out into consent count or 7.1 million and 7.3 together? 163 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:22,540 Do we want to discuss, we can pull it out for discussion. We can pull a 7.3 out for discussion, just the 7.1, or if you guys are finding the 7.3, 164 00:20:25,260 --> 00:20:25,460 okay? 165 00:20:26,420 --> 00:20:29,100 I like a motion. 166 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,140 I move the K7.3 in the consent. 167 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,140 Well, just to you, just to you, you approve a consent counter. 168 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:37,360 Okay, I move to approve. 169 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:39,760 And I was second by motion. 170 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,380 That's a motion by commissioning. 171 00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:43,400 As I was the second by commissioning. 172 00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:44,900 Pull out to for the consent counter. 173 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,280 Call for the vote. 174 00:20:46,780 --> 00:20:47,480 Push me as I. 175 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:47,880 I. 176 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,320 To be sure. 177 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,260 And I finish up as well. 178 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:51,480 That's. 179 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,500 Three zero on the consent counter. 180 00:20:54,460 --> 00:21:07,520 All right, I don't remember 8.1 public hearings to get personal mat number 82752, design review number 11-21, and this is at 1-2522 in the most recent state. 181 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:40,280 Good evening chair, planning commission. 182 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:51,880 We are here in regards to tentative parcel mat number 82752, and design review 1121 for property located at 1-2522 in the most recent state. 183 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,120 The size currently located between Parkway and Drive. 184 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,020 I'm sorry, it's currently located between Parkway Drive and Derfee Avenue. 185 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:07,960 For the general plan, it has a low density residential. 186 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:11,920 The zoning is R1B within a proximity. 187 00:22:14,370 --> 00:22:14,690 Sorry. 188 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:22,450 Within a proximity of 75 feet, a lot size of 28,397. 189 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:28,710 the parcel is currently a vacant lot. This parcel is currently surrounded by other properties 190 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:36,450 with the same zoning and same general plan designation. To the south of this parcel there is 191 00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:43,090 multi-family and to the other side it's the northeast and west it's currently in single-family residential 192 00:22:43,090 --> 00:22:43,970 development. 193 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:58,880 So the tentative parcel map number 82752 is being proposed to sub divided the existing 194 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:07,060 In 28,397 square foot lot into three lots for individual ownership with one common lot for vehicle access. 195 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:18,480 Design Review number 1121 is to review the site configuration, architectural design, and landscaping for housing development projects with three or more dwelling units. 196 00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:29,190 As you can see in this area zone in the area, in blue, marked sub-excite, that is the current site location. 197 00:23:29,570 --> 00:23:33,010 You can also see the area to the right of that. 198 00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:39,430 This is a current photo of the site, which shows that it is a vacant lot. 199 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:51,720 As you can see from this tentative parcel map, there are three parcels for residential use with a common lot with an area of 6,520 square feet. 200 00:23:51,720 --> 00:24:04,060 partial 1 is being proposed at 5,247 square feet, partial 2 at 7,76 square feet, and partial 3 with 9,554 square feet. 201 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:14,000 Both partial 1 and partial 2 have a proposed new single family dwelling at 1,870 square feet, 202 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:20,380 Apostle 3 has a dwelling proposal of 1865 square feet. 203 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:25,220 There is existing perimeter fencing of block wall. 204 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:33,480 They are also proposing a new front fence at 3 feet high with pilasters and watt iron, 205 00:24:33,980 --> 00:24:38,880 as well as new fencing around one of the side property lines and the rear property lines 206 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,800 of a block wall at six feet high. 207 00:24:45,260 --> 00:24:50,980 Approved the design review requirement. 208 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:56,820 The housing development with three housing projects requires approval of a design review. 209 00:24:57,220 --> 00:24:59,960 In order to achieve this applying commission may grant 210 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:11,740 The December view approval for the new construction provided that the architecture building materials and landscaping of high quality and consistent with the city's comprehensive design guidelines. 211 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:18,440 It is staff assessment that the architecture building material and landscaping are consistent with that design guidelines. 212 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:26,420 In this one, you can see the front elevation for both unit 1 and 2, which are front 213 00:25:26,420 --> 00:25:27,620 magnolia. 214 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,340 The proposed architectural theme is Spanish style. 215 00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:38,140 This is the elevation for the rear parcel, for the rear dwelling at the rear parcel. 216 00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:45,040 You can see the architectural elements for the Spanish style, such as roof tile and decorative 217 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,180 Terracotta events. 218 00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:51,880 Again, this is a material board that identifies 219 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:58,300 the materials in conjunction with the proposed architectural style. 220 00:26:02,350 --> 00:26:05,010 This is a conceptual landscape plan. 221 00:26:06,610 --> 00:26:08,690 The applicant proposes to remove 222 00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:11,930 life-protective trees, which they will have to replace 223 00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:14,370 those protected trees at a two-to-one ratio. 224 00:26:17,030 --> 00:26:19,370 Again, this is the conceptual landscaping. 225 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:24,310 As you can see, there's going to be a combination of trees, shrubs and ground cover. 226 00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:33,860 The development standards are being met per the current development zone in code. 227 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:41,540 They meet the density requirements, the front yard setback, the side yard setbacks, the rear setbacks, the height, 228 00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:49,990 lot coverage FAR distance between building and the required off street parking. It is stats recommendation 229 00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:58,470 that the planning commission adopt a categorical exemption under Article 19 section 15303 230 00:26:59,110 --> 00:27:07,610 for the construction of conversion of mass structures and under minor land divisions under section 15315 231 00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:15,210 It is also a stress recommendation that the tentative parcel map 82752 and this is our 232 00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:21,450 review 11-21, our approved subject to the conditions of approval and resolution number 233 00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:23,410 3625. 234 00:27:23,890 --> 00:27:25,830 This concludes my presentation. 235 00:27:27,550 --> 00:27:28,230 Thank you. 236 00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:29,730 Commissioner's questions for staff. 237 00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:34,940 Now for me, not at this point. 238 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:38,020 Okay, is the applicant in attendance? 239 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,540 Yes. 240 00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:39,800 The applicant is here. 241 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,260 Good evening. 242 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:46,240 Thank you for your permission. 243 00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:48,580 I am a staff. 244 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,500 My name is Cayman Lai. 245 00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:52,040 I'm the party designer. 246 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,280 Andrews 8740H is valuable over. 247 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:57,120 Sweet Kate Roseme. 248 00:27:58,460 --> 00:27:59,580 First of all, Kate. 249 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:03,620 I'm very pleased to present this project in front of you tonight. 250 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:07,840 And we work with staff for pretty long time, okay. 251 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,340 because I think there was some intensity change that 252 00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:14,980 that delayed the public hearing. 253 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,840 It was... 254 00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:19,840 It was... 255 00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:21,060 Well, okay. 256 00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:21,940 Yeah, that's... 257 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,580 I'm sorry, okay. 258 00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:25,460 That's a long story. 259 00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:32,640 And the staff report has been prepared very detailed. 260 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:42,100 So it pleaded every single item of the project so I'm not going to repeat that and raise your time. 261 00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:48,840 And this is a very simple straightforward compared to the rapid development of M1D likely. 262 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:59,600 This is only a three unit project and each unit is roughly less than 1900 square feet with 34 bedrooms. 263 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,060 and their ample of open space around the houses and 264 00:29:05,060 --> 00:29:06,740 participants from the neighbors. 265 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,940 I'm here to ask your approval for this project, 266 00:29:12,340 --> 00:29:15,220 and are we okay with the conditions of the proof-force? 267 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Excuse questions for the applicant? 268 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,560 I just had a question. 269 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,600 I know it's two parking unit, 270 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:31,180 and I see that there's ample space in the pathways. 271 00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:38,140 So they can do more cars a lot to park within the property size, is that suppose we 272 00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:39,820 just grasp a concrete. 273 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,080 There are some open space, okay, right next to the garage, you can see, okay, those 274 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:53,300 are potential, okay, recreation way area, like for kids to play balance, or location, they 275 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:56,060 can temporary part of the car there. 276 00:29:57,140 --> 00:29:59,980 If you can see the vision in there, then you can see it. 277 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,080 So there's no, there's not a designated parking space, it's not all the way to the property owner. This is a more versatile. 278 00:30:07,580 --> 00:30:13,100 Okay, they can use it for recreation, or for over four parking, doing holidays. 279 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:20,340 Got it. And then I noticed that were the locations for the trash bins, the reciprocals are on the back of the properties. 280 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:23,620 Notice that the world need two trash bins, correct? 281 00:30:24,020 --> 00:30:29,680 Or that's just a conceptual, a graphic presentation of that, 282 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:32,760 okay, that can be more, okay, because the space is pretty wide. 283 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,220 Okay, he's not an extra little bit. 284 00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:37,140 They're taking the organic compost now into consideration, 285 00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:39,600 so there's more trash bins, stuff like that. 286 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:44,600 And I was trying to skin through it. 287 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:51,800 properties are already ready for electric, the garage already ready for electric car vehicles. 288 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,120 Oh, that is a beautiful requirement. Okay, so it's already set up. I couldn't see it, got it. 289 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:07,520 And I think that's it for me. Thank you. And I didn't get to look closely enough. 290 00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:11,280 I'm assuming it's basically no parking around the driveway, right? Go on the road. 291 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:21,360 That is a ton of water boiling, and then there will be some type of what's going to be, so that 292 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:34,400 that free nifty space there in what looks like a in the music parcel 3 is that just belong to parcel 3 or is it open to all three parcels. 293 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,400 It looks like it's in partial three, so then yes, partial three is going to be in control of what happens there. 294 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,920 Yes, that is correct. 295 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:52,480 Okay, so if you know the way from partial two, we want to go park the car then and just leave it there would then be subject to whatever partial three wants to do. 296 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,180 That is correct. 297 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:54,640 Okay. 298 00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:55,140 That makes sense. 299 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,720 All right, that's all the questions I have. 300 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,300 Thanks sir. 301 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:00,540 Thank you. 302 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Anybody else want to speak on this item? 303 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,780 Yes, we need to have a speaker card from Mr. Philippe, 304 00:32:07,940 --> 00:32:08,660 such as... 305 00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:11,000 Okay. Mr. Sanchez, consider for... 306 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:16,040 I like to have this property and I oppose for the construction 307 00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:21,660 because we live in an R1B cell. 308 00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:23,820 According to the measurements, 309 00:32:25,980 --> 00:32:28,980 they want to build four properties. 310 00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:40,090 right and because I've already I came before to the speaker about it and they show me 311 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:48,560 all the blueprints because once before you give back I tried to build three houses 312 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:54,840 it only the property doesn't qualify for three houses and my lot is the same size, same size 313 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,580 because these properties, I know they're only a loved one, 314 00:32:57,820 --> 00:33:03,040 in according to the map and the mountain map. 315 00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:05,060 We live in the yellow zone, 316 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:07,980 which is R1B, 317 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:15,640 one A1B and one C is allowed for only one family dwelling house. 318 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,660 Or maybe I explain myself. 319 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:27,760 So the properties that are zone R1C and R1A per zoning code are only permitted to have a single 320 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:35,340 family residence. I'm not familiar with his address or the site. I'm more than happy to work with you. 321 00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:41,660 What is your address? 322 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:44,260 2749, part of the 323 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:46,520 way. 324 00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:49,540 And I don't know, my other neighbors and then other not here, 325 00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:52,380 but they were telling me they were trying to be here 326 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,640 because they were supposed to have the construction. 327 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,820 Well, I mean, if they construct two houses, 328 00:33:58,060 --> 00:33:59,980 two family houses will be okay, 329 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760 but they want to build more and more houses. 330 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:06,580 We had so many traffic on the streets and, you know, 331 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,880 and, okay, thank you, sir. 332 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,720 Thank you. 333 00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:12,710 So my question for staff, 334 00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:17,370 And then I'll remember something similar or hearing something similar about this location. 335 00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:21,870 What's the thinking of the straight French? 336 00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:24,170 Is there an issue with the straight French? 337 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:33,610 The minimum street French need a more to build three lots or three residential locations? 338 00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:37,250 This is what I'm actually not familiar with the site, 339 00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:40,930 so I'm not sure what the street frontage is or... 340 00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:43,630 for this one, for this one, for this one. Sorry. 341 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:48,450 No, so with this one, this parcel doesn't have the requirements. 342 00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:50,030 Hold on. 343 00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:50,950 This is 75. 344 00:34:51,390 --> 00:34:53,750 So it doesn't need the density requirements. 345 00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:56,290 It needs all the setback requirements. 346 00:34:56,490 --> 00:34:58,350 So this property doesn't need that. 347 00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:59,970 I'm not entirely sure with. 348 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:09,500 With the applicant, I would end with the gentleman that came up, but this one does need the density requirements, the setback requirements, aiming to Auckland zoning standards. 349 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:19,980 This is Jason as well, just to add, because our one view zone is something that we look at closely when we do the zoning cut-up date. 350 00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:41,660 And it's the zone where if your property is large or it's like a sliding scale, basically the larger property is and the wider your property is, then you're about to increase the density to a maximum of six units per acre, which is 1 per 7,288 square feet or 264 feet or something. 351 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:49,840 And at that time too, even I get at all the properties in the city, how many of them were different sizes, different widths and so forth. 352 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:58,940 And so this property, it does meet that minimum requirement, it actually still exceeds it, to do three units. 353 00:36:01,790 --> 00:36:02,290 Thank you, Jason. 354 00:36:03,370 --> 00:36:03,610 Commissioner? 355 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:05,310 Questions? 356 00:36:06,070 --> 00:36:06,390 Staff? 357 00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:08,150 Applicant? 358 00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:14,010 The question I have is, are there similar type of dwellings and 359 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:18,110 that disability will help you and may know the end of the work. 360 00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:21,990 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I need to live in Parkview. Parkway. 361 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,820 So there is a property to the south of it that does have multi-family residential. 362 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:38,020 I'm not sure if you're able to see it on the right-hand side right behind it. 363 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:45,220 At the corner on the western side, we'll see three single-family residential units. 364 00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:54,060 So there are properties around that do have multi-family and then there's also other ones that just have a single-family residential. 365 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:03,880 We're making a decision on projects like this. Is that taken to consideration that existing density by similar projects? 366 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:10,400 So as Jason stated before, we look at the front page, per our zoning, and then based on the 367 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,580 front page, we look at our zoning code because different words have different density requirements 368 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:21,380 in our code, and then we did a calculation to determine the number of units that are permitted, 369 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:31,920 perfect density. Okay. I know a question, so there was comment in regard to this project, 370 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,760 whether any, is there any, any of the community testimony that came in, will you guys 371 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,380 to this project? 372 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,710 I haven't mentioned any, this is the first one I hear of. 373 00:37:46,290 --> 00:37:47,830 Anybody else in the audience want to speak on the side 374 00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:52,630 of them? 375 00:37:53,570 --> 00:37:55,190 If we need a motion to call the public hearing. 376 00:37:55,530 --> 00:37:55,950 Please sign in. 377 00:37:56,530 --> 00:37:58,070 Oh, motion to close the public hearing. 378 00:37:59,050 --> 00:38:02,050 Motion by Commissioner Thomas Shiro, second by Commissioner Gonzalez, comfortable. 379 00:38:03,590 --> 00:38:03,830 Hi. 380 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:05,110 Hi. 381 00:38:05,110 --> 00:38:12,810 And I can myself prefer the curing is closed on this item, a question of discussion, or any changes we want to make for this, 382 00:38:15,250 --> 00:38:17,790 or either interchange the notion as well. 383 00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:20,510 Yeah, I'm more forward to approving it. 384 00:38:21,730 --> 00:38:21,770 Second. 385 00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:27,450 A motion by Commissioner Thomas Sheryl, second by Commissioner Gonzalez for approval of the item. 386 00:38:27,970 --> 00:38:31,710 For a resolution of the 365, I've got for the vote, Commissioner Gonzalez. 387 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:35,790 to Michelle. Hi, and I think myself as well, proved 30. 388 00:38:38,740 --> 00:38:40,920 We want to item number 8.2, 389 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:43,560 commission on this point number 15-22. 390 00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:34,710 Good evening, planning commissioners. Item 8.2 is 391 00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:37,710 a CUP request for 11828 rents sheet. 392 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,260 The applicant signed the Ebola Valley Water Company is 393 00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:51,840 The questioner approval of CUP 1522 to remove 1,390 square feet of landscaping in order 394 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:59,040 to construct a 3,294 square foot PFAS treatment system within an existing water facility. 395 00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:10,000 The subject site at 1.07 acres in size is located at the southeast corner of Ranchido Street and Lama Dera Avenue. 396 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:17,900 The site is designated as low density residential and zone R1B and is surrounded by the same zoning and land use designations. 397 00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:29,910 As you can see in the area photo to the right, there are currently four wells and two water storage tanks developed on the property. 398 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:30,690 In 399 00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:46,290 2017, the Planning Commission approved and the Planning Commission approved a CEP 10-13 and modification number 400 00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:50,650 2-17 and 3-17 on the site. 401 00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:58,410 The scope of working included an in-kind replacement of a 62-year-old 0.29 million gallon reservoir, 402 00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:11,410 which was 55 feet in diameter and 25 feet in height and 0.7 million gallon reservoir, which was 90 feet in diameter and 25 feet in height. 403 00:41:11,410 --> 00:41:15,590 Free wild buildings, a five-foot high landscape burn, 404 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:21,730 street improvements, which included the construction of a five-foot right sidewalk and roadway repairs, 405 00:41:22,110 --> 00:41:25,170 and a perimeter fence, and walls, and landscape communication. 406 00:41:28,510 --> 00:41:32,930 Just for also additional background, the planning commission did approve 407 00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:37,650 identical PFAS treatment systems and other water utility sites. 408 00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:43,930 One of them was at 4, 9, 21, 7, I need to avenue, which was approved on June 30, 2020. 409 00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:53,950 The other was located at 1, 2, 4, 1, 9 and 1, 2, 4, 2, 9, valley boulevard, which was approved on February 21, 2021. 410 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:07,060 PFS, they're known as a harmful set of chemicals, commonly known as forever chemicals. 411 00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:12,380 The most common are PFOA's and PFOS. 412 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:19,520 Testing at the site indicated that PFOA and PFOS levels were detected in 2019. 413 00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:22,060 The laws are tested monthly. 414 00:42:22,060 --> 00:42:39,040 Two of those are in operation. Two of the four walls are currently in operation. The state water resources division of drinking water issued requirement for the installation of the PFAS treatment before all wells can be in production. 415 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,020 In 416 00:42:43,570 --> 00:42:56,490 this slide, you can see the view from the site from Manchille Street, and then on the bottom illustration is the view from Momadera Avenue. 417 00:42:57,450 --> 00:43:07,930 As you can see, the reservoirs are painted with a landscape mural, and also screened from view with landscaping burn and trees. 418 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:21,620 On this side plan, it shows the area that's in patched and red, the 1,292 square foot of landscaping 419 00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:23,560 that will be removed 420 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:32,660 and in its place, at 3,294 square foot PFAS treatment facility 421 00:43:32,660 --> 00:43:36,060 is shown outlined in the red. 422 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:43,420 Specifically the treatment of the PFAS treatment equipment 423 00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:52,020 consists of six ion exchange vessels, one GAC vessel at approximately 16 feet for inches and 424 00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:53,900 height, a long-range CO3. 425 00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:01,360 In total, these vessels will run a linear length of 123 feet a long-range CO3, and I set 426 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,580 back approximately 12 feet. 427 00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:16,310 One rinse tank with 37,000 gallon capacity is about 20 feet in area, 20 square feet in 428 00:44:16,310 --> 00:44:22,250 area, and 16 feet in height, and is visible most on Lama-Dara Avenue with a setback of 429 00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:29,270 20 feet from Lama-Dara Avenue and 25 feet from Rantido Street. 430 00:44:32,020 --> 00:44:39,320 Under CEP-10-13, a mitigated declaration was adopted by the city. 431 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,280 This document was reviewed by Tom Dodson Associates for compliance. 432 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,380 To ensure that the proposed project is consistent with the previously adopted M&D 433 00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:53,880 and does not require any mitigation measures. 434 00:44:54,980 --> 00:44:59,960 Such a categorical exemption name was prepared by Tom Dodson Associates. 435 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:17,960 Confirming that the proposed project has been determined to comply with the categorical exemption categories, under section 15301, which is a class 1 for existing facilities and 15303 for a more construction of small structures. 436 00:45:20,330 --> 00:45:26,290 So, conditions of the people that will be applicable to the project are that the new 437 00:45:26,290 --> 00:45:31,710 resource will understand what we think is required to be painted in the same landscape. 438 00:45:32,530 --> 00:45:37,630 You know, design with the vegetation as motif to not sure if this thing was a word 439 00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:43,930 tanks, prior to final planning inspection, the design shall be reviewed and approved by the 440 00:45:43,930 --> 00:45:45,750 planning division prior to painting. 441 00:45:46,890 --> 00:46:05,990 In addition, a condition of approval states should the PFAS pre-ment facilities cease operations in the future, the applicant would be responsible for removing all the equipment at restoring the area to the live landscaping as previously approved under CUP number 10-13. 442 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:17,000 So, staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the Category Code exemptions, 1-5301 and 1-5303, 443 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:27,900 make the finding of facts articulated in the Resolution and approved conditional use permit number 15-22, subject to conditions of approval. 444 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,940 So I conclude my presentation and we have the applicant in the audience and this 445 00:46:33,940 --> 00:46:36,220 SQL consultant is also on the line. 446 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,880 Thank you. 447 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,100 Commissioners, all those questions for staff. 448 00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:47,360 What was the level of outreach that was conducted in this neighborhood? 449 00:46:48,340 --> 00:46:55,340 And I asked that because I mean this is a significant change in the landscape being. 450 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:04,580 And so I'd be interested to know what type of outreach any comments from community members. 451 00:47:04,780 --> 00:47:06,580 Because this is pretty big. 452 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,840 It's definitely going to change the view of an overhead. 453 00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:11,580 Great question. 454 00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:16,200 From the staff level, we only sent out the public hearing notices. 455 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,840 Now it's a third to the applicant if they did any outreach on their end. 456 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:31,560 Just to provide some background when this was originally approved back in 2017, we did do extensive community outreach meetings. 457 00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:41,460 We held community outreach meetings at City Hall as well to address the residents concerns, which is the results of the 458 00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:47,480 the well being painted with the landscaping motifs just to show so that we wouldn't in more with the environment. 459 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:55,340 So we did, and we also addressed noise concerns, vibrations, as well, for anticipation of the construction. 460 00:47:55,700 --> 00:48:00,400 So we did do a lot of the public outreach up front for this project. 461 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,340 And in this case, the public outreach was done by the applicant. 462 00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:12,900 We can check with the applicant to see if they did any outreach when planning this project. 463 00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:23,510 kind of following up on Commissioner Raphatt's question, is where is the feedback back in 2017 464 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:29,510 from the public? Since I was in here around the time, you guys recall, was it like a positive feedback, 465 00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:33,870 how did the community feel about the construction that getting done back in this? 466 00:48:39,870 --> 00:48:45,090 When we sat at the outreach for the original project, it was done in combination with the environmental 467 00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:49,530 document. So when the environmental document was being circulated with the community meeting, 468 00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:58,590 The main comments that we got were really people from the south of the property and I even went 469 00:48:58,590 --> 00:49:08,690 on one of the properties directly south of this because they were concerned about how views of the tanks and 470 00:49:08,690 --> 00:49:10,550 that type of stuff. 471 00:49:10,590 --> 00:49:15,150 What was more about that and then also about construction impacts. 472 00:49:15,150 --> 00:49:23,150 previously there were two vacant houses on the west side half of this property so there 473 00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:29,570 wasn't, you know, sort of like the house has been a remote yet anything so it was 474 00:49:29,570 --> 00:49:34,650 more published to the south and that on that step there's time back. 475 00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:41,090 Thank you, Casey. No big questions for me. 476 00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:48,060 And I think I'll have a question for the applicant in a 477 00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:55,660 bit, but me don't ask. I'll ask staff. A separate question. So if we understand correctly, 478 00:49:55,820 --> 00:49:59,980 there's going to be no, um, it's going to be, uh, it's going to be, uh, it's going to be 479 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:13,420 No greenery, during place, what's getting removed, right? There was, there was a considered of maybe, I mean, if we could go back to, to ask you the, 480 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,900 the, we didn't take, we didn't take, it's going to take out the, the trees and the five foot lamb. 481 00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:36,040 I'm assuming because of the nature of the equipment, there's no possibility of replacing some of those trees back along the street on I guess I think that was a second be the elevation from Ranchito, okay, yeah from Ranchito then. 482 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,700 Yes, there will be replacement trees to the place that was last. 483 00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:51,440 So if we're looking at that right there, it was getting removed now, it was along the top, right? 484 00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:53,900 Where the red squares at, where the red rectangle. 485 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:55,860 So that's getting removed. 486 00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:56,900 Yes, to the corner. 487 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,020 One, two, three, four, five are being removed here. 488 00:51:00,020 --> 00:51:04,260 And then we have one, two, three, four, five, six. 489 00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:10,640 So trees right here are existing. 490 00:51:10,940 --> 00:51:11,260 Okay. 491 00:51:11,260 --> 00:51:15,320 So they would serve to, so those trees will stay correct. 492 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:15,900 Yes. 493 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,420 Okay, so those trees will stay and it will be the trees closer to the corner, are getting removed 494 00:51:22,020 --> 00:51:23,420 along the top. 495 00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:27,220 Closer to the corner, correct. 496 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,240 And you said they're going to be replaced and they're going to be put where. 497 00:51:31,820 --> 00:51:38,040 There's three new replacement trees, I don't know if you can see right here, one, two, three. 498 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,100 On the other side. 499 00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:44,300 Yeah. So there's going to be a section that's not going to be screened from view then. 500 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,580 There's also three new trees right here, one, two, three. 501 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,580 Oh, there's three more up there as well. 502 00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:54,400 In addition to the existing. 503 00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:01,060 So there will continue to be some type. What basically getting removed then is the five foot high 504 00:52:01,060 --> 00:52:12,880 the burn and the trees that were removed in the footprint of where this system is going and then they'll be 505 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:20,280 replaced closer to the ranchero side, and then also on the other side, which is kilometer Avenue. 506 00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:31,040 And if we go back to the street view of that street on top, so there's shrubbly on the outer 507 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:37,140 side. It looks like correct. On the other side of the block wall. Yes. Yes. Yes. 508 00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:41,800 A little back wall. And then your shrubbery. And then on the back side of that, there'll 509 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,980 be trees. Correct. Yes. Just basically what was what basically ends up getting removed is 510 00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:51,320 just the five foot high ground. There's going to be trees back. Yes. Yes. Yes. It just 511 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,980 won't be the two layers of trees that they're currently. Yes. Because it looks like there's 512 00:52:54,980 --> 00:52:59,040 two layers. It's like three and there's three. Correct. And instead of just three here and 513 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:06,600 here. Exactly. Got it. If I could also add, because when the burn was originally proposed, 514 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,320 the burn wasn't to screen anything in the basalt that was just to allow the trees that were 515 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:19,800 plastered to be planted at a higher level. Yeah. I remember this one from when it was first brought 516 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:27,720 up. Yeah. The trees are getting replaced. What size are the new trees going to be? 36 inch box trees. 517 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,160 Okay, so how tall are those? 518 00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:34,440 And I'm going to be like a little, no, I'm not going to be a little shrug, but it's a 519 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,980 lot of stuff to get people around you. 520 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,920 The height, do you know the height? 521 00:53:46,030 --> 00:53:46,310 Okay. 522 00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:47,810 All right. 523 00:53:48,030 --> 00:53:48,230 Yeah. 524 00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:49,350 Thank you. 525 00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:51,010 Any further questions for staff? 526 00:53:51,830 --> 00:53:52,650 No, for me. 527 00:53:52,850 --> 00:53:53,270 No, for me. 528 00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:53,710 All right. 529 00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:54,430 Applicant. 530 00:53:59,330 --> 00:53:59,750 Thank you. 531 00:53:59,870 --> 00:54:00,810 I'm getting a zoom. 532 00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:01,670 Two. 533 00:54:02,970 --> 00:54:03,370 Two. 534 00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:06,050 Two. 535 00:54:06,050 --> 00:54:12,130 I'm going to be a question tonight and let's say you didn't go into any of this, let's 536 00:54:12,130 --> 00:54:19,550 try number one, where we're building this treatment system. I just want to take a moment 537 00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:30,270 to thank Ms. Lee for going over the previous approval that we had for the site. I'm planning 538 00:54:30,270 --> 00:54:34,990 manager now, by the way, and I look for a single valid water company, just for information 539 00:54:34,990 --> 00:54:41,390 And when it was Chris Olsen, at the time of the first approval, I was chief engineer. 540 00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:49,210 And I worked with time-bots whom to analyze our mitigated negative declaration. 541 00:54:50,170 --> 00:54:59,970 That in about years of work and working with our neighbor and our neighbors to help understand 542 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:10,200 What they could work concerns they might have about a new facility to provide drinking water to them and their members. 543 00:55:11,140 --> 00:55:21,000 And I say to design facilities and build them so that they minimised and mitigated that any concern that they would have. 544 00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:31,020 And we did so by holding different menus with them, about the way we were prepared. 545 00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:36,660 For this project, which is the true mid-system. 546 00:55:38,340 --> 00:55:47,640 We build a design which we believe addresses concerns they have, and I can go with that in detail. 547 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:58,020 I also just like to say that around the perimeter of the site where we're going to build the treatment system, 548 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:08,600 we are leaving a portion of the landscape room, but we are also, as we said, we are replacing the trees that we're removing. 549 00:56:09,580 --> 00:56:17,020 I noticed in the start of the report that says we're replacing five trees that we're removing with six trees. 550 00:56:17,020 --> 00:56:29,380 Actually, we're going to replace them at a two-to-one ratio, they are not protected trees but we're going to go home and the place by trees with 10. 551 00:56:29,860 --> 00:56:34,500 And I can show you where that is on the plan that we submitted. 552 00:56:40,540 --> 00:56:47,000 There's six trees around the work and around the corner of where that larger circle is. 553 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,020 with a windstank is and then there's we're going to add four in the light down on the 554 00:56:52,020 --> 00:57:00,040 llama bearer side. So they're inside the berm there but they have further screened the 555 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:00,740 property. 556 00:57:03,340 --> 00:57:08,480 I don't know what I think everyone has heard about. It's definitely become no 557 00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:18,220 common to hear about the constraints for pinfoss in our environment and particularly for us 558 00:57:18,220 --> 00:57:25,580 drinking water. So we don't, we don't have peatots in a drinking water. So you guys had 559 00:57:25,580 --> 00:57:32,580 to respond to notice from the division of drinking water and this notice was issued in 560 00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:41,300 2019 in a little of our construction project and after the previous project was already approved. 561 00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:51,580 This latest report is to sample our drinking water levels for PFAS, and PFAS is, as a public 562 00:57:51,580 --> 00:57:59,460 spray spray, and how many clear alcohol substances, they're forever chemicals, that 563 00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:06,160 means that they take a really, really long time to break down, and I essentially go, um, 564 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:06,940 a lot of time. 565 00:58:09,170 --> 00:58:13,910 And I've been familiar with these now. The most common, common, 566 00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:22,210 2000 years, but I'm deaf one. And it was present in my household when I was a kid. And 567 00:58:22,210 --> 00:58:28,350 I'm president many, many other households growing up because it really helped keep your eggs off 568 00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:29,150 to find pan. 569 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:38,960 It's also used to cope with food wrappers, but people accept to be able to 570 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,560 such as a pizza, or thighs, or a hamburger. 571 00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:49,630 The kelp one is the first state to ban for other chemicals. 572 00:58:51,170 --> 00:58:55,710 And they have banned use of these potos chemicals 573 00:58:56,590 --> 00:58:59,210 in fast food and any food application 574 00:58:59,210 --> 00:59:02,790 as of the first of this year, 2023. 575 00:59:03,410 --> 00:59:09,930 They want to ban it in a clothing and a pair 576 00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:14,330 by the first of 20.5. 577 00:59:16,410 --> 00:59:21,150 And they're finally going to ban it on exterior waterproof clothing in 20.8. 578 00:59:22,610 --> 00:59:27,230 However, the new jewelry has already, that's the environment of protection that you see in 2019. 579 00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:33,610 It's the value issue that they're going to, sort of, maximum contaminant level for the real types of jewelry. 580 00:59:33,610 --> 00:59:39,450 for these two chemicals in drinking water, that means that these sources with 581 00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:45,310 molten products per million will have to be shut down. We'll not do all the 582 00:59:45,310 --> 00:59:49,630 provide drinking water or any kind of water to less than in the city of 583 00:59:49,630 --> 00:59:49,950 Madrid. 584 00:59:52,090 --> 00:59:59,970 Already these wells have elevated levels of PFOS. We're only able to use them. 585 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,460 And because we have one corner source on site, which is producing the latter with less than the current notification level for California. 586 01:00:11,540 --> 01:00:23,380 So it's really hard to understand how vast each region is, and I just want to let you know that I've very excited that it's like a drop of water in an Olympic-sized swimming pool. 587 01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:30,000 We're a dollar of all the dollar, but I was circulating in the United States. 588 01:00:31,980 --> 01:00:39,160 That's how small it is, but it doesn't matter how small it is, you know, this is 589 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,100 dangerous, because it's known to cause cancer. 590 01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:52,840 Anyway, we have this very good documentary, and that's what it's called, the devil, the 591 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,980 this particular kind of code that you'll take a look at that. I was 592 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,300 going to be being it. 593 01:01:06,050 --> 01:01:10,930 This ion exchange system that we're proposing to pay here is the best 594 01:01:10,930 --> 01:01:14,130 available technology to remove the cross-front water, 595 01:01:14,170 --> 01:01:15,350 but use it well. 596 01:01:18,830 --> 01:01:22,210 It is silent when it operates 597 01:01:22,210 --> 01:01:26,970 And there's absolutely no noise generated by this. 598 01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:29,350 The only one concern for my neighbors is noise. 599 01:01:30,190 --> 01:01:32,850 At the time we had neighbors who had very young children, 600 01:01:34,450 --> 01:01:37,290 and very concerned about construction noise, 601 01:01:37,890 --> 01:01:40,870 and about the operation that we had, 602 01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:43,850 when we were building the biggest facility, 603 01:01:44,110 --> 01:01:46,250 which included a lot of production wealth. 604 01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:48,850 Now, this is not a lot of production wealth. 605 01:01:48,850 --> 01:01:56,970 A lot of production, well, required that we draw essentially 24 hours a day for many 606 01:01:56,970 --> 01:01:57,450 days. 607 01:01:57,810 --> 01:01:59,730 So we're causing a good result. 608 01:02:00,850 --> 01:02:07,870 In order to mitigate bad results, we collected a sound lab, so that we minimize the noise. 609 01:02:08,210 --> 01:02:13,550 We collected noise measurements at the parameters of our site, and I believe that we're 610 01:02:17,470 --> 01:02:20,750 So we're still concerned about noise. 611 01:02:22,310 --> 01:02:26,570 Then we build, we're constructing regular working hours, 612 01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:32,930 seven to four, whatever the city permits us to construct. 613 01:02:34,590 --> 01:02:43,530 And we have staff on site both to our construction to address any concerns we hear from our neighbors. 614 01:02:45,210 --> 01:02:58,010 Since the announcement, we have not paid anything for my neighbors, and for two years since we completed the previous project, we will not have any complaints about the operational authority. 615 01:02:59,790 --> 01:03:06,610 If I'm mistaken, can we keep the comments here? 616 01:03:07,090 --> 01:03:09,930 That's not, I don't know, and I'm just looking at it. 617 01:03:09,950 --> 01:03:11,950 And I'm selecting in to keep your comments here. 618 01:03:12,030 --> 01:03:13,770 Don't just members of the audience. 619 01:03:14,190 --> 01:03:14,910 Okay, thank you both. 620 01:03:15,250 --> 01:03:15,530 Thank you. 621 01:03:17,490 --> 01:03:18,530 I apologize. 622 01:03:19,630 --> 01:03:22,930 But I do want to address concerns of our neighbors. 623 01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:26,110 And I know there's, I mean, all people in the city of Amate. 624 01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:27,490 So, 625 01:03:32,170 --> 01:03:41,030 I am concerned about the budget allows us to distribute clean and safe drinking water 626 01:03:41,030 --> 01:03:48,810 to residents in the city of Amate, and that the result and the safe operation of the 627 01:03:48,810 --> 01:03:49,070 facility. 628 01:03:56,340 --> 01:03:58,280 I think I have addressed all of my comments. 629 01:03:59,140 --> 01:03:59,600 Thank you. 630 01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:00,100 Thank you. 631 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:00,540 Thank you. 632 01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:04,140 Thank you. 633 01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:10,460 describe the community outreach that was conducted, how did you engage the residents, 634 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:12,480 the 635 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,320 relationship that you have with residents, you know, how that is being mitigated 636 01:04:19,650 --> 01:04:20,350 for this 637 01:04:20,350 --> 01:04:24,590 particular application that we did with the city, for this particular application. 638 01:04:25,390 --> 01:04:31,090 Well we worked with the city and we complied with all the California Environmental Quality Act 639 01:04:31,090 --> 01:04:39,990 requirements which, you know, requires to comply with different activities and studies related 640 01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:49,110 to a project, like a drinking water treatment system, and how about was issuing a notice 641 01:04:49,110 --> 01:04:57,950 to all of our neighbors, within a, believe it was a 500 foot radius, or 600 foot radius, so 642 01:04:57,950 --> 01:04:59,610 Everyone was in front by mail. 643 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:17,300 But we were doing this project. Other than mail, was there any proactive approaches to the community outreach? I mean, knowing that you've been there for a while, there's a relationship with residents. I just kind of want to dig a little deeper into that. 644 01:05:17,820 --> 01:05:27,060 Okay, thank you. While we just relied on our distribution and thought we would hear from people if they had a concern about it. 645 01:05:28,340 --> 01:05:34,300 And no one responded to the notice was that you nailed out. 646 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,580 I did not hear any response. 647 01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:40,560 Staff didn't get any comments. 648 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,840 As a result of the notice. 649 01:05:43,780 --> 01:05:44,140 Okay. 650 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:45,400 All righty. 651 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:46,180 Thank you. 652 01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:49,430 Thank you. 653 01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:49,810 Thank you. 654 01:05:50,190 --> 01:05:53,030 For my understanding, currently we have two else, 655 01:05:53,070 --> 01:05:54,950 currently working on operation. 656 01:05:56,450 --> 01:06:05,030 Yes, we have two wells in operation at any given time, and we have three wells that are able to operate, 657 01:06:05,470 --> 01:06:13,110 but because two of them are extensively, I have other than others that keep passing them. 658 01:06:13,450 --> 01:06:17,950 We have only one clean well, we're able to blend two wells together. 659 01:06:18,590 --> 01:06:27,330 that result in a blend of water that has kept us the essentially need-striking water 660 01:06:27,330 --> 01:06:27,810 requirements. 661 01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:33,170 Okay, and then by doing this installation, this is going to allow all four-wears or what 662 01:06:33,170 --> 01:06:37,810 is a five-wears that we have on site, four-wears, four-wears, so this will allow all four-wears 663 01:06:37,810 --> 01:06:38,770 to operate. 664 01:06:40,670 --> 01:06:47,930 Okay, and just to kind of clarify, I see that on the gosh to the construction worker 665 01:06:47,930 --> 01:06:53,910 or anybody working, are they going to be allowed to park on the street or are they going 666 01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:57,010 to be parking inside the property for construction? 667 01:06:58,830 --> 01:07:02,850 We have 20 of them on site for parking, so it's a good instruction. 668 01:07:03,130 --> 01:07:10,110 We're not, you know, disrupt or gain a row of any other neighborhood residents in any way. 669 01:07:16,660 --> 01:07:17,660 This is, that's it for me. 670 01:07:17,860 --> 01:07:18,540 Thank you. 671 01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:28,340 The cleaning technology that that's whatever. I don't have the technical name. Sorry 672 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:35,240 You say there's low noise. How much low noise are we talking to here? It's like that 673 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:41,260 I mean, not something that I figure is going to be cleaning is not going to be exactly noise less 674 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:48,820 There's going to be something is there like a bells? Is there a beeping or anything at all like 675 01:07:48,820 --> 01:08:00,300 If I'm standing on the sidewalk or if I'm living in the house next door, am I gonna detect an audible hum coming from the facility or anything like that? 676 01:08:00,740 --> 01:08:10,800 No, these ion exchange systems don't have any noise. There's no additional pumps that are needed to operate this treatment system. 677 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:17,360 we don't create any noise from it. If you were, if the system were operating and you 678 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:25,240 will nearby and you place your hand on the pipe, it would be cold and you might feel some 679 01:08:26,980 --> 01:08:31,060 vibration. But the noise is zero. 680 01:08:33,770 --> 01:08:36,970 Okay, thank you. That was my question. Thanks, sir. 681 01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:42,670 Any other members of the audience want to speak on this item? Please come 682 01:08:42,670 --> 01:08:45,530 forward sectioning mattress at the podium for the record. 683 01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:52,020 Good evening commissioners. 684 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:55,220 Thank you. You shouldn't get the microphone back really close because that's one of 685 01:08:55,220 --> 01:09:00,500 the rules. Okay, that they can there you go. All right. My name is Mark Morido. I made one of 686 01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:09,400 the south side of the of this property at 4618, 4620 Lama. There I have a new. We bought the 687 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:15,680 property back in 1998 and since then, the water company has done three projects. What would 688 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:36,420 I mean, you know, well, since 1998, in 1998, I believe they constructed two wells and the construction was, you know, really, really, really know the wells was 24, 7, for like 15 days, nonstop. 689 01:09:36,420 --> 01:09:45,820 We're using a dark camera that will remember the actual name of it, but it's just something that just keeps on hitting the still pipes are going through the ground. 690 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,460 So we're only working yet. 691 01:09:48,860 --> 01:09:50,600 We have three minutes. 692 01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:56,340 So I was suggesting that if I was suggesting you get straight to the point of what you're doing. 693 01:09:56,440 --> 01:09:57,440 So I have a lot to say. 694 01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:59,960 And three minutes I don't think it's going to cover at number one. 695 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,500 There was zero outreach. I never got anything. All I got was the letter for this meeting. That's it. There was no community outreach. There was no letters. There was nothing. 696 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:29,680 Okay. I'm looking at the documents that I saw on the website and they're saying, okay, what they're proposing is it's compatible with the existing conditions with the neighborhoods. And it's not. This is a quite residential area. This place has the site and what they're having. 697 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,940 and it doesn't fit, doesn't conform to the neighborhood. 698 01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:37,640 So if you run into the side, please go and look at it. 699 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:39,840 Yeah, it looks nice because they have the trees. 700 01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:40,700 They have good landscape. 701 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,120 They painted the tanks, but these are huge tanks. 702 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,660 And they're nice for. 703 01:10:46,420 --> 01:10:47,860 And I share them every day. 704 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,300 I even have a beautiful view of the mountains. 705 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,100 I don't have any more. 706 01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:57,740 We invested back in 2010, we invested over 800,000 707 01:10:57,740 --> 01:11:01,780 in one of the warehouse, okay? 708 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,960 The other thing in the conditional permit back in 2018 709 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,540 before they did the a massive expansion that they did. 710 01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:10,140 Ladies and gentlemen, it's just again, 711 01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:11,080 it's still on topic. 712 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,840 We can't discuss previous items, 713 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,560 we can discuss the five before. 714 01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:17,440 We can submit the the old conditional permit 715 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,760 into this petition, okay? 716 01:11:21,180 --> 01:11:22,880 And they violated some of the terms. 717 01:11:23,140 --> 01:11:25,540 Number one, they promised that they were gonna pay 718 01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:31,920 damages to accessing adjacent properties, okay? All house, the outside, the start of the 719 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:39,620 crack, the inside, the we have poverty flowing, it all cracked, we have several copper pipes 720 01:11:39,620 --> 01:11:45,860 at both because of all the improvements that were continuous when they were compacting the soil, 721 01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:51,680 we're talking about having machinery. This is not, you know, when they come in and do construction 722 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,060 on the site, it's industrial. 723 01:11:53,260 --> 01:11:54,340 This is not residential. 724 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,700 They didn't have a machinery, okay? 725 01:11:58,140 --> 01:12:01,200 And then I take, they built a buffer wall 726 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,480 and they take all the steps, I need to take 727 01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:07,060 but spill, it's, it's, you know, they're doing this 728 01:12:07,700 --> 01:12:10,240 with adjacent homes next next door. 729 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,060 Our windows is wide-necks through the site. 730 01:12:13,820 --> 01:12:15,960 And they can claim that this doesn't make noise 731 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,060 and listen to that, we have a pump, a road pump 732 01:12:20,060 --> 01:12:25,000 that's sucking water and we hear the noise and they did how the world pump and it 733 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:31,500 helped but we still hear it. The room is next to it. You know, you guys can study it. 734 01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:37,480 You can hear what they have to say. Come come to my house and I'll show you. No more 735 01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:41,760 but it's listening to what we have to say. We're the ones that are impacted. 736 01:12:44,450 --> 01:12:44,930 Okay? 737 01:12:47,090 --> 01:12:50,950 I said the project was done. Just like they told us, you know, I said the project 738 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:56,330 What happens if you sustain the images coming and we're going to take care of it? 739 01:12:56,510 --> 01:12:59,550 We went, they told us, we don't take care of that. 740 01:12:59,630 --> 01:13:02,710 We have some other adjustments that we'll do that. 741 01:13:02,910 --> 01:13:06,350 Go through them, they're going to help you go after the contracts, 742 01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:09,970 because at the end of the day, the contracts is responsible for any damages. 743 01:13:11,890 --> 01:13:15,870 They came, they visited our house twice, they took pictures, they documented. 744 01:13:15,870 --> 01:13:22,190 we, they told us to write reports to send them pictures over and over again the same story. 745 01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:27,410 Nothing. We got tired of it. 746 01:13:27,710 --> 01:13:31,450 You know, the guys are in Colorado, they would say there were hardly any of the trainers. 747 01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:36,930 And all of it, they're coming back with this, it's amazing. 748 01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:42,770 You know, I told them from day one, you know, they claim that they were there 15 years ago. 749 01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:49,990 But it's all tank and what the expansion that they did is it didn't fit the real tank. 750 01:13:50,350 --> 01:13:52,770 Your time has expired. 751 01:13:53,150 --> 01:13:53,930 We can. 752 01:14:01,340 --> 01:14:03,320 She's three minutes. 753 01:14:05,740 --> 01:14:11,500 So to me they're violating the old condition of permit because they didn't take care of the damage 754 01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:12,540 like they promised. 755 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,360 They promised the security system and lighting. 756 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,980 They had an damsel. 757 01:14:19,460 --> 01:14:25,580 You know, the inside of the site, people do go in and carry on with some work, but the outside 758 01:14:25,580 --> 01:14:26,400 will have complaints. 759 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:33,120 The landscape being, it's not taking care of, there's a lot of .poo, it doesn't get clean, the 760 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:39,560 landscape is dying outside, so I think it's something that they have to have someone 761 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,240 on site on a regular basis, cleaning up the site on the outside. 762 01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:56,000 But most people, everyone's busy and busy, they oppose it. 763 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,540 I can give you some signatures if you want, if that's going to help. 764 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:12,000 But and I don't get in touch with my politicians and see who can help me, state senator or whoever, but, you know, this is, this is the third time I have to go, I'm going to go through this. 765 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:22,520 And every time they promise, they promise you things, they make it seem like it's no problem, everything seems easy, no knowledge, this and that and there's always problems. 766 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:31,920 And they do respond, you know, I can say that they don't respond to your complaints, they do what they can. 767 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,520 Like when they were doing the compaction, we told them, you know, this is going on and it's shaking the house, it's shaking. 768 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:41,780 My kids are, I believe at the time they were out of school, but they were in the house. 769 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:51,700 And it's shaking the claims keep falling off, we call them, they come in and say, you know, we really can stop them, you know, this is an ongoing contract. 770 01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:57,300 You know, they do things on their hands, you know, we can stop the work right now, but just just 771 01:15:57,300 --> 01:16:00,560 they with us and and again we take over you if there's any damages. 772 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:06,280 Well, it's been three years, four years maybe, since the project got completed. 773 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,720 And I just got tired, then with the adjusters, nothing, 774 01:16:13,340 --> 01:16:16,680 you know, so they're in violation of the 775 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,460 OCP because they didn't comply with what they promised. 776 01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:24,700 And when I throw them one to go somewhere else and build this, because we did some research. 777 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:26,460 There's no... 778 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,460 These types of tanks are not... 779 01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:34,260 And we're in finding the site where it was actually inside of a residential area. 780 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,460 There are always like commercial streets, like San Anita has one, 781 01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:41,160 a valuable work, by the freeway, six or five. 782 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,760 You know, there's plenty of areas where they can build this thing, 783 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,160 without bothering the local residents. 784 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:57,100 So, you know, I'm, like I said, I can get, you know, one of my signatures from, from other 785 01:16:57,100 --> 01:17:01,340 neighbors that are, I, again said, talking, get you that for you. 786 01:17:02,140 --> 01:17:03,100 That's, that's basically it. 787 01:17:03,220 --> 01:17:09,660 I hope you guys take my comments, you know, it's very easy to write reports and if you guys 788 01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:13,300 don't visit the site and don't talk to the people, I mean, come on, yeah, do better than 789 01:17:13,900 --> 01:17:14,300 that. 790 01:17:14,300 --> 01:17:16,500 What do you work for us? 791 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,440 So maybe we'll just comment it, it blends in to the existing. 792 01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:25,340 And by the way, I did take a, you know, a place that I was done on the property, 793 01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:32,300 they call out the site as an I saw and they took the batches because of it. 794 01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:34,120 And that was before they did the expansion. 795 01:17:34,340 --> 01:17:35,600 So you come to the expert. 796 01:17:36,440 --> 01:17:37,140 All right. 797 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,400 Anybody else in the audience want to speak on this item? 798 01:17:41,220 --> 01:17:43,200 And I see where the hand raised on the zoom? 799 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:53,020 Yes, I believe that is the SQL consultant number in 15 and 570 please unmute yourself. 800 01:18:13,930 --> 01:18:16,370 Can people hear me? 801 01:18:16,830 --> 01:18:17,090 Yes. 802 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,660 Just a little bit of a complicated situation. 803 01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:27,100 But let me give you a little background. 804 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:34,760 During the period of time that all the construction was going on. 805 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:42,760 But as a new facility that have been installed previously, it doesn't mind previously, in 806 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:50,640 confondence with the previous condition used for met, we monitored the noise levels literally 807 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,680 for a year and a half. 808 01:18:53,660 --> 01:18:59,940 During that period of time, our commitment was to keep noise levels below 65 decibels during 809 01:18:59,940 --> 01:19:00,540 the day. 810 01:19:00,540 --> 01:19:03,400 because of the adjacent residences, 811 01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:06,940 we're able to 812 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:16,320 propose that only once during that whole period of time was that threshold exceeded. 813 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:28,640 And it was having to do with some adjuice and what I would call noise that was related to moving the materials rather than constructing the site. 814 01:19:30,580 --> 01:19:37,020 We made an effort and I got a year and a half worth of data to document and verify what 815 01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:39,760 we did when this is being done. 816 01:19:41,390 --> 01:19:47,070 I believe in this as soon as this is not up in and as your secret consultant this is 817 01:19:47,070 --> 01:19:53,170 giving us a pretty much fast and on the project but the issue here is not what happened 818 01:19:53,170 --> 01:19:57,030 before and that's that you're getting comments on this evening. 819 01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:59,970 You're looking at a new system. 820 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:13,550 Security. It is a water treatment facility so that we can make water drinkable. The facility has been in place for a long time. Well, before the residents were constructed, 821 01:20:16,670 --> 01:20:27,210 and there are the re-singered with allies made an extraordinary attempt to respond to most of the complaints that have been submitted previously. 822 01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:34,490 But right now, you're being asked to consider, if we install a new waste water, I'm not 823 01:20:34,490 --> 01:20:36,890 waste water, I'm going to use the water treatment facility. 824 01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:44,230 It is a passive unit, it is not an active unit, I don't have to pump water into it, but 825 01:20:44,230 --> 01:20:49,150 water is delivered to the site, based by the water that is pumped up from the ground. 826 01:20:50,730 --> 01:20:56,010 If there's a unit itself, this pathic doesn't generate much noise at all, in fact, given 827 01:20:56,010 --> 01:21:01,430 background noise related to what's already happening at the side, you wouldn't be able to hear it. 828 01:21:02,330 --> 01:21:06,370 Unless everything else was shut off and you could hear it go, and then it would just be like, 829 01:21:06,590 --> 01:21:08,870 listen to the water flow in the screen chat. 830 01:21:11,860 --> 01:21:14,160 Like that, I'll have some fun of you as to 831 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:19,880 re-prove this treatment unit, which is going to be required to make that lot of available to the public, 832 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:30,440 is designed to minimize the impacts from noise, but it's also designed to replace landscaping 833 01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:36,400 And then following is designed in a manner that will not exceed the height of the existing 834 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,380 structures on the side. 835 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,340 We've got to follow from a single stand call. 836 01:21:42,660 --> 01:21:45,260 I'll try to clarify the time limit does not apply to our consultants. 837 01:21:45,860 --> 01:21:47,180 I'll continue to ask again. 838 01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:57,320 So in conclusion, this site and this particular facility met with use of the categorical 839 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:04,160 assumption for SQL compliance and then you made it on the basis of will it have will 840 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:10,080 have the respect on the environment then already existed the site and in my judgment based 841 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,640 on my evaluation the answer is now. 842 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:20,080 I'm available now to any questions you may have and I'll stand on until you guys finish. 843 01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:22,220 Thank you, Mr. Dawson. 844 01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:24,640 Here's your questions for a local consultant. 845 01:22:26,910 --> 01:22:27,130 Dr. Shenzang. 846 01:22:32,300 --> 01:22:35,880 I don't think we're minimizing the value of this project. 847 01:22:36,100 --> 01:22:38,420 I think we all want clean water. 848 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,040 We want to make sure that these forever chemicals 849 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,640 are mitigated as much as possible. 850 01:22:46,700 --> 01:22:48,360 And you're right, but we're talking about 851 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,060 is the project that is at the table right now, 852 01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:52,760 not what happened in the past. 853 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,860 But it is important to recognize that there is a relationship here. 854 01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:05,340 There are some test issues between the agency and at least some of the neighbors. 855 01:23:06,420 --> 01:23:10,140 So I do recognize that. 856 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:19,040 So in regards to this project and how it moves forward with the community, 857 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:34,640 What are some of the strategies that you employing or that you will employ to make sure that the community is, you know, is kept abreast, you know, that there are issues are being addressed. 858 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:43,040 So yes, so in terms of moving forward, how do you see that relationship proceeding? 859 01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:45,920 Mr. Dodson. 860 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,500 Yeah, I appreciate that. 861 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:49,580 How would you feel for the applicant? 862 01:23:51,340 --> 01:23:51,480 Yeah. 863 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:59,600 I was going to say, yes, so when I'm mindset, I think the secret side is, this project 864 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:04,320 will not cause any adverse effects on the environment or the community. 865 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,640 But you're saying it's how to address the concerns of the community, one individual, by 866 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:14,900 the way, from the community is expressed, and I'm going to be filled out and depressed because 867 01:24:14,900 --> 01:24:21,000 that's my answer. Okay. I don't know if we have to open it up again for the applicant. 868 01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:27,280 I'm going to close by the carry on to see it. Okay. Good. So my question is for the applicant. 869 01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:38,510 Okay. Well, there are many, many conditions that we're complying with on this project. 870 01:24:41,660 --> 01:24:49,900 One that was brought up earlier is that we are replacing landscape that we're removing 871 01:24:49,900 --> 01:24:59,100 And we are doubling it essentially by replacing 5 trees with 10. 872 01:25:00,850 --> 01:25:13,890 We are going out of our way to make sure that those vessels which, on black and white people, look like large tanks, they can see that, you know, people that look like a nice one. 873 01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:29,660 But I'm hearing from a lot of people that the Trump law that we painted on our new tanks that were replacing the old ones that were, that needed better antists. 874 01:25:29,660 --> 01:25:31,940 You can add that a little bit. 875 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:33,600 Thank you. 876 01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:45,510 So, for those things that have the mirror, and that are from my understanding is huge 877 01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:51,050 and pigment over what was there before, which is basically a pair, white, thick. 878 01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:52,270 And, 879 01:25:58,180 --> 01:26:04,060 you compile with either conditions that the parent condition has, and we open to you 880 01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:05,240 What, what, what, uh, 881 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,240 condition, what other conditions? 882 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,560 Other than that's what I wrote. 883 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:11,440 Yes. 884 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,860 In regards to enforcing those conditions, 885 01:26:17,140 --> 01:26:19,800 how does the city, how does the city handle that? 886 01:26:19,820 --> 01:26:23,880 I mean, when you monitor a situation like this to ensure 887 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,860 that the points are being met. 888 01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:28,780 Before construction starts, we do a little 889 01:26:28,780 --> 01:26:32,340 pre-construction meeting to go all of the conditions 890 01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:39,840 and requirements with the contractor, and then we also post the site with a board that has a number 891 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,800 of a contact number for the city site and also for the applicant site for any complaints. 892 01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:50,260 And then we have ongoing inspections as well. We make sure that they are compliant with the 893 01:26:50,260 --> 01:26:56,920 conditions of approval. But there's no community outreach or a pre-meeting with the immediate 894 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:57,660 Residents. 895 01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:59,260 Around the. 896 01:26:59,260 --> 01:27:00,560 Not for this project. 897 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,080 Typically for larger residential projects we do have that. 898 01:27:05,580 --> 01:27:11,060 We would be happy to have a pre-construction meeting, but we've now with our, 899 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:16,360 we've not been technically willing to have necessary for construction purposes, but instead 900 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:22,180 informative for our neighbors as to what was what the construction went through. 901 01:27:23,460 --> 01:27:29,680 how round it would occur, how we would ensure that we're compliant with all the city 902 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:37,660 ordinances such as noise and baking hours, construction times, parking, and others. 903 01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:43,180 I mean I think something like that would be helpful, yeah, thank you. 904 01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:50,050 I have actually one question for you because before you stepped down, one question that I have 905 01:27:50,050 --> 01:27:58,030 now and some of the thing he was brought up is, I guess, security and I'm looking at the pictures 906 01:27:58,030 --> 01:28:05,070 of fences are pretty low, right? So how often are you guys noticing people jumping over the fence 907 01:28:05,070 --> 01:28:10,130 and going in there to do whatever they want? And do those have some type of security, 908 01:28:10,430 --> 01:28:16,130 do you have like surveillance cameras monitoring, the premises 247? What are you guys doing to prevent 909 01:28:16,130 --> 01:28:19,970 people from, you know, going inside the property, when they 910 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:22,920 shouldn't. 911 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,640 At point number one site, we don't have the reports of 912 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,560 intruders that I'm allowed, but by the 913 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:35,880 in order to monitor that, we do have alarms on all of our 914 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:36,880 hatches and doors. 915 01:28:37,540 --> 01:28:40,580 So if we do experience an intrusion, we will know 916 01:28:40,580 --> 01:28:45,280 right away, and then we'll call this site, because it's in 917 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:55,760 The residential neighborhood is one of our first priorities to install an access card reader so that we can control access to the site other than just having a padlock. 918 01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:03,540 And in addition to that, we will be able to install cameras at the site and 919 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,360 I need to check to see if we already have cameras there and I don't remember. 920 01:29:11,260 --> 01:29:16,440 But that's something that we can put on and we have a plan for that. 921 01:29:23,780 --> 01:29:31,240 Other questions about the site is that you know the landscaping and we do have a maintenance 922 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:38,020 department or talk to them after the meeting and make sure that there's no issues with landscaping. 923 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:45,660 Okay, and then this will be the, I don't know if it's a question for you or Mr. Dawson, but it will 924 01:29:45,660 --> 01:29:51,380 to compare the noise that the pumps are currently making versus the filtration system. 925 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,760 You basically saying that the new filtration system is going to get installed. 926 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,980 It's going to make less noise than the pumps or absolutely need no noise. 927 01:30:01,780 --> 01:30:08,180 So, basically, we're not increasing any noise at all. That's right. Okay. We're not increasing the noise. 928 01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:16,220 Okay. And then just another quick question. And this is just maybe not too relevant to this. 929 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:24,500 But what is the likelihood of either to find another site where we can provide it for the singular valley in the city of Monte. 930 01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:42,380 I want to add something to about the noise that you asked about and that is that this project can be built and there will be temporary noise associated with construction but it can be built during regular waking working hours. 931 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:50,260 We got in bed and the site at the middle of the city, we cannot be bad. 932 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:57,380 We have four wells on site and those wells need to be treated on site. 933 01:30:59,180 --> 01:31:00,760 The, you know, 934 01:31:04,820 --> 01:31:11,560 it just is not feasible to try to treat these wells somewhere far away. 935 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:19,980 We're creating what's in West and the city we want to, it will be to find our locations to relocate everything, it's just not feasible either. 936 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:31,060 It is not feasible from the standpoint of what is a cost effective investment for our waitpayers who reside in the city of Emonte 937 01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:38,260 and moving a treatment system at a site that we already have developed and where we already 938 01:31:38,260 --> 01:31:46,680 have girls is most cost-effective treatment for the system, the city of Almante water system. 939 01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:47,980 Thank you. 940 01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:57,410 The construction of these treatment vessels were already involved, some type of 24-7 construction 941 01:31:57,410 --> 01:31:59,670 process as they have already experienced. 942 01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:13,130 No, there's no 24-7, and there's no significant, you know, drilling the ball and ball drilling, 943 01:32:13,230 --> 01:32:18,830 you know, deep into the ground, I think it went down about 500 feet down, and that's why we're 944 01:32:18,830 --> 01:32:27,370 drilling 24-7. This construction is on an already weighted site, and there will be very minimal 945 01:32:27,370 --> 01:32:30,790 Who will work associated with this? 946 01:32:31,330 --> 01:32:31,870 Okay. 947 01:32:32,950 --> 01:32:36,690 So, what we have from your, from your leadership, 948 01:32:38,030 --> 01:32:41,370 it's a, they are stating that there are, 949 01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:46,380 there are conditions of the previous CUP that are not being, 950 01:32:47,070 --> 01:32:48,070 uh, upheld. 951 01:32:50,130 --> 01:32:52,370 And that is something that, 952 01:32:52,370 --> 01:33:01,010 Well, that is something that we can consider because now you're planning for another conditional 953 01:33:01,010 --> 01:33:07,130 use permit and your previous history as far as conditional use permits, like your history 954 01:33:07,130 --> 01:33:16,770 and that your ability to keep up with your previous conditions can tell us what your behaviors 955 01:33:16,770 --> 01:33:22,230 is going to be like in the future. Unfortunately, we don't have, we don't have a track like 956 01:33:22,230 --> 01:33:28,630 a showing us that this is what you have been doing. My suggestion to your neighbors would 957 01:33:28,630 --> 01:33:33,450 be to make sure when you're not satisfying your condition of approval that they let the 958 01:33:33,450 --> 01:33:39,550 city know so that those items can be tracked so that when we get something like this in front of 959 01:33:39,550 --> 01:33:47,310 we can't take that into consideration. There are several ways by which your neighbors can 960 01:33:48,190 --> 01:33:55,470 notify the city. The one thing that I'm using is the is the city's app because I use it myself 961 01:33:55,470 --> 01:34:01,670 and I report several businesses who aren't upholding their conditions who aren't following 962 01:34:02,770 --> 01:34:09,210 code and making sure that those items get addressed and that there is a paperwork process 963 01:34:09,210 --> 01:34:14,930 and there's a trail left behind. What are you going to do from this point 964 01:34:14,930 --> 01:34:20,330 forward to try to assure your neighbors that you will be fulfilling if you're 965 01:34:20,330 --> 01:34:25,150 approved today? Today, they will be fulfilling those conditions of approval and to 966 01:34:25,150 --> 01:34:28,930 try to fulfill your previous conditions of approval. We first have some pretty 967 01:34:28,930 --> 01:34:36,430 significant complaints and it seems like they're not getting taken care of. I was here 968 01:34:36,430 --> 01:34:52,510 When that, when we allowed that, when we put those big vats up, and I drive by once in a while, and I see it, and it looks nice for the 10, 15 seconds that I drive by it. 969 01:34:52,610 --> 01:34:56,950 I don't have to live next to it, so I don't know that, I don't have that experience unfortunately. 970 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:19,280 I'm concerned that my fellow commissioners made the wrong decision that night. So if we continue to make wrong decision after wrong decision, we're going to continue to continue to perpetuate that. 971 01:35:19,580 --> 01:35:28,960 And if we make a better decision tonight, maybe our fellow neighbors within the city don't have to continue to experience that anymore. 972 01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:40,200 So, I wouldn't need to know where you're going to do to help make them whole from when we first approved that. 973 01:35:42,090 --> 01:35:43,070 Well, as soon as I get to you. 974 01:35:44,430 --> 01:35:44,630 Okay. 975 01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:46,770 Have you heard on this issue this is tough? 976 01:35:47,250 --> 01:35:47,910 This doesn't happen. 977 01:35:47,930 --> 01:35:51,710 I'm going to hear from the applicant first, and then I'll listen to what you have to say this doesn't. 978 01:35:52,510 --> 01:35:53,510 I appreciate it. 979 01:35:53,710 --> 01:35:54,070 Thank you very much. 980 01:35:55,860 --> 01:36:03,820 I want to follow up on concerns I heard tonight, for sure, and find out why our neighbors feel 981 01:36:03,820 --> 01:36:09,700 like they, some of their concerns were not addressed during construction. And the types of 982 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:18,180 concerns are, you know, I don't, I'm not familiar with the details of those in particular, 983 01:36:18,180 --> 01:36:29,360 But during the construction project, we have a construction meeting with our neighbors, and we 984 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:37,340 informed them of who is the point of contact to get these concerns heard, not just regarding 985 01:36:37,340 --> 01:36:43,240 construction, but regarding customer service, and I'm sure that our neighbors were informed 986 01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:47,180 during that last project of who to call and who to talk to. 987 01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:49,920 And it sounds like they did. 988 01:36:50,740 --> 01:36:55,840 The part where I'm not quite clear on is how that was dealt 989 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,140 with and who spoke with them, and I'll find out. 990 01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,640 Yeah, because what it sounds like is that responsibility 991 01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,420 was just being passed off. 992 01:37:06,460 --> 01:37:11,000 And I want to help avoid that situation again. 993 01:37:12,340 --> 01:37:20,160 If you're standing here before telling us this, I will hope that you will say, I'm going to be that point of contact. 994 01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,300 Come to me and you don't have to go to somebody else. 995 01:37:24,820 --> 01:37:31,640 I think we've all had that experience with whatever companies and agencies we've had. 996 01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,840 We call somebody not my responsibility, go to the next person, go to the next person, go to the next person, go to the next person. 997 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:42,580 you are intruding on these people's lives. You are intruding on this on this on neighborhoods 998 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:51,840 residences. I would hope as much as I appreciate you adding double the amount of trees 999 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:59,420 that you're taking out. I want to see that proactive approach to dealing with your neighbors. 1000 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,420 Who can speak to you? The trees can't talk to you. The trees can't tell you what they're 1001 01:38:04,420 --> 01:38:11,600 But the neighbors can. The neighbors have been talking to you and for when it sounds like you've just turned a deaf ear to them 1002 01:38:11,940 --> 01:38:20,180 So how can we be certain that you are going to all of a sudden change your ways from your last three or four years 1003 01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:26,660 Of not listening to neighbors and now you're gonna listen to them 1004 01:38:26,660 --> 01:38:29,160 What can you say right now 1005 01:38:29,900 --> 01:38:36,160 That will make the three of us believe that, whereas the past four years you haven't. 1006 01:38:39,690 --> 01:38:43,210 I am happy to be a point of contact for our neighbors. 1007 01:38:44,370 --> 01:38:48,770 I met all of our neighbors doing the outreach events that we had in the past. 1008 01:38:50,150 --> 01:38:53,790 And I provided my car. I never heard from them directly. 1009 01:38:54,550 --> 01:39:03,770 Well, we have zero. We have a number of people. Obviously the number of people didn't work. 1010 01:39:06,050 --> 01:39:19,410 You can have a number of people. If they all just turn them down and pass the buck and continue to refuse to take responsibility, somebody needs to step up and say, I messed up. 1011 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:29,160 We messed up and I will take responsibility of it from here going forward. Are you able to say those words? 1012 01:39:30,220 --> 01:39:36,820 I am able to say I'm responsible and I will talk to our neighbors after this event and find out more details. 1013 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:43,720 But I really, you know, haven't heard anything that helps me really understand what happened. 1014 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:51,700 It sounds, if I were living in a home and I had to deal with an insurance company in another state 1015 01:39:51,700 --> 01:39:56,080 to try to resolve something in my backyard, that would be pretty uncomfortable. 1016 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,700 And I'm sure I would fight tooth and nail. 1017 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:29,820 Well, it was resolved. I'm going to, I want to be a plan to contact for all the neighbors here. And please, I mean, by all means, I've seen that a lot of places that produce a kind of noise within a residential area. And I think we've done it before with other locations. I know we have that water pump station, offer a fine view near the river where they had a similar 1018 01:40:29,820 --> 01:40:35,240 jackhammering for a situation we have a nice thing and I think we have been put a sign up 1019 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:41,100 that said call us here at this number yes that's the sign that I was referring to okay 1020 01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:47,100 is that one of the conditions for for this as well yes that will be required okay we have a sign like that 1021 01:40:49,740 --> 01:40:55,020 I you know and I really wish we had the condition it since it was reference 1022 01:40:55,720 --> 01:41:00,980 This is a little reference in this. I really wish we had the conditions of approval from what we did in 2017. 1023 01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:02,980 Can you see which items? 1024 01:41:03,380 --> 01:41:05,060 Yeah, it is in the agenda packet. 1025 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,660 Yes. Resolution 3470. 1026 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:12,640 I'm a slide over in week to machine rules. 1027 01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:34,820 It's a attachment to of this agenda item. 1028 01:41:56,440 --> 01:41:58,080 Should we get more suspect in? 1029 01:42:15,110 --> 01:42:16,030 What should I say? 1030 01:42:16,030 --> 01:42:18,450 What should I say when we add something we want to say? 1031 01:42:20,300 --> 01:42:28,660 I think so, I'm not sure it was close to resolving things, but let me reiterate what I said before. 1032 01:42:29,620 --> 01:42:40,820 And the problem here is I'm not sure that specific condition that the company may not have adhered to. 1033 01:42:40,820 --> 01:42:48,940 But I can tell you that over a year's worth of construction, there was only one very 1034 01:42:48,940 --> 01:42:53,900 minor violation of noise in the whole community. 1035 01:42:54,240 --> 01:43:05,420 We've got hog data, monitors were set up, there was utilized, and we did not have noise 1036 01:43:05,420 --> 01:43:10,780 violations of intruded into the community beyond what we'd already identified. 1037 01:43:10,780 --> 01:43:19,160 And so I don't want to, I don't want to question your concerns about responding to a 1038 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:23,140 mover, but I'm not sure what condition the approval may have been violated. 1039 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:28,640 I know the noise condition for over a year was not violated. 1040 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:30,680 I've got hard data, supported. 1041 01:43:39,730 --> 01:43:40,910 That's, thank you, sir. 1042 01:43:42,670 --> 01:43:49,870 Unfortunately, no, yep. I understand, I understand, but unfortunately, no, that's what we have. 1043 01:43:50,170 --> 01:43:54,630 Anybody else in the audience want to speak on this item or anybody on Zoom? Please raise your hand. 1044 01:44:01,610 --> 01:44:06,670 I'm just for the record staff will follow up with the members of the community. 1045 01:44:09,970 --> 01:44:21,750 If I may suggest, so the condition number 16 for the previous resolution regarding the damage and if it can be verified by the expert review that the 1046 01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:29,410 what a company would correct or repair such damage, we can also include that in this condition as well for this current project. 1047 01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:35,370 That would be appreciated. I mean, from what it's described, those things seem like it's going to have that sort of impact. 1048 01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:40,270 But it doesn't, it doesn't hurt. 1049 01:44:40,490 --> 01:44:43,290 And we are requiring a security plan as well. 1050 01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:46,990 That would require a security plan in the previous one, and they didn't fulfill it either. 1051 01:44:47,670 --> 01:44:49,170 We'll make sure that it is fulfilled this time. 1052 01:44:58,170 --> 01:44:59,970 We could get a motion to close public. 1053 01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:05,660 Motion TOP UP, Clause, probably hearing. Motion to motion, motion, time to share. Skiing back, motion 1054 01:45:05,660 --> 01:45:10,820 to Gonzales call for roll, Gonzales, to share Aye and aye for myself, is all from the majority. 1055 01:45:13,580 --> 01:45:14,060 Discussion, 1056 01:45:22,340 --> 01:45:25,700 you know, the relationship, you know, that this city that the agency has with 1057 01:45:25,700 --> 01:45:29,640 the community is too so critical. And that's what we're here. 1058 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:35,480 I mean to say that the concerns, because we're talking about this project. 1059 01:45:35,480 --> 01:45:37,580 and we're not talking about the past, 1060 01:45:37,940 --> 01:45:38,980 I mean, there's a direct correlation. 1061 01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,300 I mean, these are these are trust issues. 1062 01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:44,860 And so I just feel that that are city, 1063 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,300 that the agency can do a much better job 1064 01:45:48,300 --> 01:45:51,080 in terms of monitoring, in terms of staying 1065 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,020 in a communication with the residents, with the schools. 1066 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,700 I mean, there's there's so much around there. 1067 01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,100 And so I appreciate that we're gonna have 1068 01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:04,100 some of these conditions highlighted in this project. 1069 01:46:06,860 --> 01:46:15,540 But, you know, I really hope that, you know, that we'd be true to what we're saying here. 1070 01:46:16,900 --> 01:46:19,740 I know that if I lived around here, I'd probably have some listening concerns. 1071 01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:30,850 So, you know, as a reason why we got here, and I'm hoping that we're not able to repeat this history. 1072 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:48,760 I mean, the concerns for the residents obviously should always be a top priority, and we want to make sure that, you know, as members of this panel members of this commission, that we are the voice for the community. 1073 01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:57,580 that's over here for. Now obviously the overall thing here is we need to look out for the 1074 01:46:57,580 --> 01:47:02,400 Orbe in the entire city, which is you know at the rate the pumps are kind of going and 1075 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:06,560 based on what they were saying and what it was reading. It is something that is going to be required. 1076 01:47:07,060 --> 01:47:12,780 It's not really imposing more, it's not going to be more damaging than what it already is. 1077 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:23,340 So, I do feel like, you know, it is a difficult decision to make, but obviously, we want 1078 01:47:23,340 --> 01:47:26,700 to make sure we're looking out for the best interest of the entire city, 1079 01:47:29,340 --> 01:47:29,740 that's all for 1080 01:47:30,460 --> 01:47:31,020 me. 1081 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:43,400 I would like to invite you to approve a provision of approval number 15-22. 1082 01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:48,360 I'm sorry. 1083 01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:54,000 Can we confirm what the added conditions are? Can you summarize those to make sure they're part of the motion? 1084 01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:57,580 Yes, we'll add the condition previously regarding the damage. 1085 01:47:58,420 --> 01:48:04,760 And then did you want other of the applicant offered, but did you want to make it a condition for the pre construction meeting with the residents? 1086 01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:05,220 Yes. 1087 01:48:05,220 --> 01:48:06,540 Okay, one of that as well. 1088 01:48:06,780 --> 01:48:09,740 Why don't we do a pre and post? 1089 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:13,040 And maybe, 1090 01:48:15,110 --> 01:48:17,610 is, can we review this in a year? 1091 01:48:17,810 --> 01:48:19,270 I don't, I won't, unfortunately, 1092 01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:21,850 I won't be on this commission any longer in a year, 1093 01:48:23,170 --> 01:48:24,430 but are, at least, 1094 01:48:24,910 --> 01:48:28,030 my replacement can then review this in a year from now. 1095 01:48:29,370 --> 01:48:30,010 Oh, I don't want to say, 1096 01:48:30,490 --> 01:48:32,490 oh, a year of the operation? 1097 01:48:32,710 --> 01:48:34,050 A review of the operation, a year, 1098 01:48:34,210 --> 01:48:35,670 once a year after they've completed. 1099 01:48:37,650 --> 01:48:41,590 And hopefully Thomas Schurung is still here so they can remember this. 1100 01:48:44,590 --> 01:48:51,290 To be already have the condition where it can be brought up to the Planning Commission for a Revocation. 1101 01:48:51,290 --> 01:48:54,090 I think that's the standard condition that we have. 1102 01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:55,910 For a Revocation. 1103 01:48:57,130 --> 01:49:01,130 Revocation is in the code, so any Revocation of code. 1104 01:49:01,130 --> 01:49:04,630 Oh, it seemed to, well, I wasn't being that drastic, but. 1105 01:49:04,630 --> 01:49:11,330 I need to talk about the stuff that we're at the commission of already. 1106 01:49:12,250 --> 01:49:16,130 I would think the commission would like to hear about it. 1107 01:49:16,410 --> 01:49:24,850 Because it sounds like there's some needs to be some type of accountability. 1108 01:49:25,150 --> 01:49:25,810 There you go. 1109 01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:27,870 That's what I'll search for. 1110 01:49:28,110 --> 01:49:29,270 There needs to be some sort of accountability. 1111 01:49:30,590 --> 01:49:36,250 I hate to say that we have proved something in 2017 and never thought of it again, but that's exactly what happened 1112 01:49:36,250 --> 01:49:42,590 We have proved something in 2017. I think about it because I drive through that April once in a while, and I go to look at it because I remember being 1113 01:49:44,710 --> 01:49:51,270 A point of contention back then. It was something that we really struggled over in 2017 and and we really were hoping that 1114 01:49:51,970 --> 01:49:57,950 We were bringing something forward that would work and and now I'm sorry, no, you know 1115 01:49:57,950 --> 01:49:59,750 Please, projects come back. 1116 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:17,300 And back to me, and I'm just starting to hear about them in its, you know, it's concerning, right? So I'm hoping that if there's some kind of accountability, then maybe Mr. Wilson's words can hold up and he best take responsibility and accountability for what's about to happen there. 1117 01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:22,260 Okay, so we can add it one year of you after final, final permit. 1118 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:26,840 And make sure that the residents are notified. 1119 01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:31,560 Not necessarily the owners we can do the property on our and the 1120 01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,820 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes 1121 01:50:33,820 --> 01:50:35,100 Yeah, and 1122 01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:40,600 The discontinuity meeting if city staff could be there that would be great. Yes 1123 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:50,060 And also we're gonna go check on the security cameras right to make sure that they're either installed or because I see that they were part of the conditions before 1124 01:50:50,060 --> 01:50:51,500 Yes, okay 1125 01:50:51,980 --> 01:50:56,460 All right, so we have a motion by Commission TimeShill, second by Commission Gonzalez. 1126 01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:59,580 We have some added conditions that we've already reviewed. 1127 01:51:00,060 --> 01:51:01,760 So we're going to go and call for the World Commission Gonzalez. 1128 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:02,720 I. 1129 01:51:02,740 --> 01:51:03,280 Commission TimeShill. 1130 01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,640 Hi, and it's going to be an I for myself as well. 1131 01:51:05,860 --> 01:51:10,280 Mr. Wilson really, really, really hope that you take advantage of that opportunity. 1132 01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,600 You have some items to take care of with your neighbors and your neighbors. 1133 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,500 I hope we'll continue to be very diligent in their. 1134 01:51:19,340 --> 01:51:25,680 response with you and my advice to the neighbors is start developing a paper trail. 1135 01:51:26,300 --> 01:51:32,980 You realize what my sources the city has given us so that we can really document what's going on. 1136 01:51:33,340 --> 01:51:37,520 We do have now a clock on when we can review these items. 1137 01:51:39,460 --> 01:51:42,360 And if we have nothing on paper, we can't really consider it. 1138 01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:43,740 It's going to be my ultimate advice. 1139 01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,180 We can talk after when we walk outside. 1140 01:51:46,180 --> 01:51:49,080 I don't know if you want to hang out that long. We have a long presentation though. 1141 01:51:50,500 --> 01:51:53,660 So we got to continue that. I can't keep city staff here that long. 1142 01:51:54,500 --> 01:51:58,300 Thank you though. Thank you. Thank you all. We really appreciate this. 1143 01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,760 This is what we, we, we need to fill the feedbacks sometimes as well. 1144 01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:03,940 All right. 1145 01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,460 Let me have to remember 8.3. 1146 01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:08,700 General plan amendment number 3-23. 1147 01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,020 My eyes are going bad. 1148 01:52:18,740 --> 01:52:20,720 Well, I'll teach you how to share the screen up there? 1149 01:52:22,780 --> 01:52:23,900 Yes, give me a fuck. 1150 01:52:58,880 --> 01:52:59,640 Can you see the screen? 1151 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:00,280 Can 1152 01:53:17,020 --> 01:53:18,740 you see our price tag? 1153 01:53:19,620 --> 01:53:21,480 No, are you sharing your screen? 1154 01:53:21,620 --> 01:53:24,220 Or do you want to meet the presentation on my name? 1155 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,200 Just, I'll put that on my screen. 1156 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,340 But I don't have. 1157 01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:04,980 And the 1158 01:54:07,740 --> 01:54:10,240 point three is jail plan amendments 0, 3, 1159 01:54:10,460 --> 01:54:11,640 4, 3, 4, 3, 4, 1160 01:54:18,450 --> 01:54:18,450 3. 1161 01:54:19,150 --> 01:54:21,030 There's really kind of two big parts to it. 1162 01:54:21,050 --> 01:54:24,250 One is basically a update, 1163 01:54:24,470 --> 01:54:27,530 but the whole general plan land use policy plan. 1164 01:54:28,030 --> 01:54:33,730 was more commonly just known as the land use demand, as part of that we also updated the 1165 01:54:33,730 --> 01:54:37,690 context section of the land use element, and the second part of it is that the 1166 01:54:37,690 --> 01:54:44,060 block of properties of that report, but actually, of course, where we hold it is, and it's 1167 01:54:44,060 --> 01:54:47,020 to change the land use designation specifically for those properties. 1168 01:54:48,380 --> 01:54:53,460 So, just to give a little bit of that problem last year, the city council adopted two general 1169 01:54:54,460 --> 01:54:59,980 which change the general prime land use designation for properties out of the city, this was said. 1170 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,080 Part of a housing element update, and then also as part of the zoning code update. And at the same time, 1171 01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:17,840 the city is in the process of using new software through GIS. And so we came in April to 1172 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:22,460 do this for the Senate map. Where we basically would put anything on this only map and wanted 1173 01:55:22,460 --> 01:55:27,400 to do a consolidated map. Clean up everything and the entry-fetched city council, so now we're 1174 01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,820 they're doing the same for their general plan. 1175 01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:37,940 The major designations, again, where we have information in the general plan dates back many 1176 01:55:37,940 --> 01:55:38,440 years. 1177 01:55:38,860 --> 01:55:42,440 Since then, there's been a whole bunch of updates and there were kind of different versions 1178 01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:42,880 of them. 1179 01:55:43,140 --> 01:55:49,420 Some of them had, you know, the river washers with the designations, some of them didn't, 1180 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:55,880 you know, not everything had the well, well, I get a five, and so on, so, so some of the 1181 01:55:55,880 --> 01:56:03,860 to be consistent with everything, properties that are the whole world are transitory, and then also the 1182 01:56:03,860 --> 01:56:11,200 airport, then we could combine designation transportation, and then properties that were 1183 01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:25,620 developed were worse, and also public facilities that had a similar designation of public 1184 01:56:25,620 --> 01:56:26,720 and weaker. 1185 01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:31,820 For the value of block of properties, there's no change in residence or density or capacity, 1186 01:56:32,420 --> 01:56:36,540 there's no increase in the number of non-coupled users or structures, what this is doing 1187 01:56:36,540 --> 01:56:42,740 is really, it's putting the general pentetic nation to reflect the zoning of those properties 1188 01:56:42,740 --> 01:56:45,260 as well as the existing uses on the properties. 1189 01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:52,860 So, these are all the categories for the venues map, we also added that the map is consistent 1190 01:56:52,860 --> 01:56:55,480 and what the colors used in the Selling Map as well, 1191 01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,340 so there's consistency there. 1192 01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,160 So if your property is selling to general commercial, 1193 01:57:00,780 --> 01:57:02,800 then the general climate being general commercial, 1194 01:57:03,140 --> 01:57:05,740 regional commercial, you know, 1195 01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,320 industrial business park is a pursuit of gray 1196 01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:09,860 as is by transportation. 1197 01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:14,120 Public institution is like a medium-collar blue. 1198 01:57:14,460 --> 01:57:17,320 There's only map that wherever washers are light blue 1199 01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,940 and then schools are dark up below. 1200 01:57:19,940 --> 01:57:30,580 And also, we added as far as I know, which was said that the city approved last year, and that, for example, had not been updated on the zoning map on the general plan map. 1201 01:57:31,180 --> 01:57:43,420 Also, the mixed use, specifications of office multi-use, and open multi-use, those were added from the housing element, and so those were also added and that correctly as well. 1202 01:57:43,420 --> 01:58:13,400 So, this is just kind of a never-half of the city, you know, that everything now has the general plan designation, with the exception of streets and highways, those were meant to be with our own personal designation, of the city's codes, if a street or some kind of, you know, public thing does not have a zoning or general plan designation, and if that's located, then it was just a soil, whatever, it's the zoning and general plan of the adjacent city. 1203 01:58:13,420 --> 01:58:19,620 property. So it's already covered in that manner. And then here's the southern part of the city. 1204 01:58:20,460 --> 01:58:27,280 You see that the government that was the over the most high years for the gravity of 5.0. 1205 01:58:28,180 --> 01:58:34,120 That's something that the plan information will be seen later this year for New Zone of Constantinence for that. 1206 01:58:34,820 --> 01:58:39,500 And then this is the area of all that we've done at the start, which includes so you'll 1207 01:58:39,500 --> 01:58:43,920 have and then go on all the way best to the 99 cent market. 1208 01:58:44,980 --> 01:58:48,860 And these are kind of the two areas, the areas, the West of Johnson Avenue, which is about 1209 01:58:48,860 --> 01:58:52,640 six to half acres that have a change from downtown court of general commercial. 1210 01:58:53,220 --> 01:58:58,240 And then the areas to the east of Johnson Avenue, which includes so you'll have to be changed 1211 01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,620 from downtown court of regional commercial, that's about eight and a half acres. 1212 01:59:02,940 --> 01:59:09,820 And so that also, just to note, we do, in a circular manner, as a attachment to the resolution, 1213 01:59:10,460 --> 01:59:15,180 but corresponding texts. So for each of the different menu specifications on this list, 1214 01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:16,800 there's a text that goes with it. 1215 01:59:17,220 --> 01:59:21,880 So we just do, like for example, we add a response of that edge because that was already adopted by Council. 1216 01:59:22,980 --> 01:59:28,260 Now we, you know, have clared to the transportation public institution all categories. 1217 01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,660 So we had the text that would act reflect that as well. 1218 01:59:31,660 --> 01:59:36,900 So we really just know that within just kind of a line better, and then also the bedout table, 1219 01:59:38,140 --> 01:59:41,740 the numbers, because now that they're transferring everything to the new vacuum software, 1220 01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:46,620 we will let's get a very accurate information on the equals. So we updated the equals, 1221 01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:54,420 so we have now the credit date which for the downturn, or much I use, the open space and so forth. 1222 01:59:54,420 --> 01:59:58,220 So we update all those numbers as well. 1223 01:59:58,560 --> 01:59:59,980 So over that, then, is... 1224 02:00:00,020 --> 02:00:12,180 Actress 1, application, and recommendation for the Planning Commission to recommend the city council, approve a resolution, approve the general planning amendment. 1225 02:00:12,260 --> 02:00:25,380 Also, just to note on the agenda, there was a carryover from the previous application, talking about the government agreement, it should actually be a general planning amendment, the staff, report and the resolution to correctly reflect that. 1226 02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:27,140 So that concludes my presentation. 1227 02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:38,020 I was expecting a long presentation. 1228 02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:40,900 This was a short one. 1229 02:00:42,660 --> 02:00:44,140 Thank you, Jason. 1230 02:00:45,060 --> 02:00:46,300 Jason's was like, well, long one. 1231 02:00:46,460 --> 02:00:47,600 You said you would. 1232 02:00:51,180 --> 02:00:51,780 Okay. 1233 02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:53,460 Okay. 1234 02:00:53,460 --> 02:00:56,940 So we're talking about land use designation, not changes in zoning. 1235 02:00:58,260 --> 02:00:58,540 Relax. 1236 02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:02,660 So the zoning needs to be consistent with the land use designation. 1237 02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:09,100 So, you know, when that change in, you know, something wasn't industrial, it's still the industrial business part. 1238 02:01:09,340 --> 02:01:11,140 So, we didn't do any changes like that. 1239 02:01:11,420 --> 02:01:18,440 So, in all of the only properties that really got the land use changed was this area on Valley Overfired, 1240 02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:24,720 which the designation that has been changed to is really, when you think about the correct one, 1241 02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:27,880 because it actually reflects the uses that are on the properties. 1242 02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:33,240 And then, you know, that the intensity of self-identity and self-identity is the same. 1243 02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,660 Actually, this is also a little bit higher than the density. 1244 02:01:36,660 --> 02:01:42,540 The difference is that you cannot change the job plan designation of operating and produce. 1245 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:44,260 But that's the actual capacity. 1246 02:01:46,020 --> 02:01:48,680 So that was exactly what that should make sure that was not necessary. 1247 02:01:48,980 --> 02:01:50,620 Okay. I'm ready. Thanks, Jason. 1248 02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:54,380 No questions for me. Thank you. 1249 02:01:54,580 --> 02:01:55,780 No questions for me either. 1250 02:01:56,560 --> 02:02:01,280 So, I'll make the motion to adopt the resolution number. 1251 02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:02,820 I'm going to sign up for public loan. 1252 02:02:03,020 --> 02:02:03,820 This is a super comment. 1253 02:02:04,060 --> 02:02:04,480 That's right. 1254 02:02:04,900 --> 02:02:05,360 My apologies. 1255 02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:06,780 I thought this was one of those. 1256 02:02:07,980 --> 02:02:08,420 My apologies. 1257 02:02:09,820 --> 02:02:10,360 Public comment. 1258 02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,780 Anybody in the audience wants to speak on this item? 1259 02:02:13,740 --> 02:02:15,900 Mr. Offer. 1260 02:02:16,220 --> 02:02:16,380 Nope. 1261 02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:17,780 Anybody on Zoom? 1262 02:02:18,180 --> 02:02:18,840 Raise your hand? 1263 02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,100 I do not see anybody on Zoom. 1264 02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:26,620 All right. 1265 02:02:26,620 --> 02:02:27,260 I should speak. 1266 02:02:28,380 --> 02:02:29,780 I want to close the public hearing. 1267 02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:30,300 I'll second. 1268 02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:46,720 I'll make the motion to approve to adopt resolution number 3656. 1269 02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:54,580 I'll second motion to approve by me and second by commission I'll make the motion to approve. 1270 02:02:54,580 --> 02:02:58,880 I, I forgot that was I, I found a shoe and I for myself as well. 1271 02:02:59,040 --> 02:02:59,920 3-0. 1272 02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:00,860 All right. 1273 02:03:02,180 --> 02:03:04,380 Now, onto the regular agenda. 1274 02:03:05,060 --> 02:03:06,820 So item number nine, there's none. 1275 02:03:07,180 --> 02:03:08,880 Item number 10 is Directorate Report. 1276 02:03:10,300 --> 02:03:11,720 Now you'll have Jason's long presentation. 1277 02:03:11,900 --> 02:03:12,780 Oh, it's so cool. 1278 02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:15,440 So, you said that well. 1279 02:03:16,620 --> 02:03:17,600 The benefit of that is interesting. 1280 02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:23,600 So one of the, you know, we had the local financial mission in April and learned the 1281 02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:28,600 the commission's had was, well, common it was, we have, how many of them that could be had and so forth. 1282 02:03:29,260 --> 02:03:34,980 So I did put together this presentation, but then for Parker's Dr. City Council next week. 1283 02:03:35,820 --> 02:03:39,360 So, you know, I also have this information at the City Council last for it. 1284 02:03:39,420 --> 02:03:47,020 But just really quick, again, the ordinance was approved 10 areas of the city 600 feet from the 1285 02:03:47,020 --> 02:03:54,120 What are you saying that are set up requirements for residential services as well as other 1286 02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:58,000 good reports, and then the approvals, which you've had to see the other time as a development 1287 02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:58,540 agreement, 1288 02:04:05,090 --> 02:04:05,650 Nancy? 1289 02:04:07,910 --> 02:04:10,410 Are you sharing your screen or do you want me to share? 1290 02:04:10,470 --> 02:04:11,750 No, I had my screen. 1291 02:04:11,770 --> 02:04:13,230 Did you have to share my screen? 1292 02:04:13,910 --> 02:04:14,770 No, it did not. 1293 02:04:29,090 --> 02:04:30,310 You should be able to share. 1294 02:04:30,830 --> 02:04:31,270 Yeah, sorry. 1295 02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:48,280 So, the difference is this is how the user is met by the way. 1296 02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:53,020 that you have to prove so that all the way areas are high every little below. 1297 02:04:53,580 --> 02:04:55,220 So you have to let it go. 1298 02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:56,440 Let's see what we've got. 1299 02:04:56,740 --> 02:04:59,960 And then you have the stretch of our property, so let's do it. 1300 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,220 The bill is met at the end of the flood flood area. The woman, that's constructed. The woman, the white, that is approved. That's where the FedEx building is. And then the bill, the application, that's the woman that you've got some people, that's going to go that city council next week. So this area has, what you do the math and the separation requirements, the third, third, which between two to three more bill, that's on third, right? And then on the east side, it was, we both once, two more bill boards. 1301 02:05:29,220 --> 02:05:31,200 in that area, right? 1302 02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:39,300 So the second segment is the area around what gateway is and the river worship. 1303 02:05:39,740 --> 02:05:47,040 So here you have two rivers that have been approved by the City Council, and these have actually 1304 02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:50,960 built place existing static cohorts in the area, 1305 02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:55,680 so if static cohorts need to get removed first 1306 02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:58,120 and then they would be able to begin construction on this. 1307 02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:04,420 And then there's enough room in this area to do one walk-over and that would be closer to what 1308 02:06:04,420 --> 02:06:05,200 sounds need to happen. 1309 02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:12,600 The third segment, this is the area around the auto-hug, so on the left side of a freeway, 1310 02:06:12,780 --> 02:06:16,720 there's the existing boomer that's constructed itself that adjacent to the Wastney Sun 1311 02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:17,220 site. 1312 02:06:18,100 --> 02:06:21,980 And on the south side of the freeway, it's a trying to have a property, there's an application 1313 02:06:21,980 --> 02:06:25,940 in or at that location as well. 1314 02:06:25,940 --> 02:06:33,240 So this is the one you do the math kind of where you look at existing, but that's constructed. 1315 02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:34,140 These are bad. 1316 02:06:34,420 --> 02:06:35,380 There's room for another one. 1317 02:06:35,460 --> 02:06:36,740 Two more bad words. 1318 02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:40,340 Let's get a method of cloud in the area because you have a lot of your auto. 1319 02:06:40,540 --> 02:06:41,940 Do you have ship signs? 1320 02:06:42,460 --> 02:06:44,800 Kind of narrow valley and leakers. 1321 02:06:45,140 --> 02:06:46,040 Room for another board. 1322 02:06:46,780 --> 02:06:49,940 And then there is another overlay district. 1323 02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:55,720 by meaker just south of Tentbury way and so you'd be able to accommodate one bit more 1324 02:06:57,510 --> 02:07:02,090 there. And then this is the eastern segment of the city. So here you have an existing 1325 02:07:02,090 --> 02:07:07,950 building that's constructed. That was the first the second one to fill up. And then in a far 1326 02:07:07,950 --> 02:07:12,570 east you have a static building board that's actually in the city of Almonti and then you 1327 02:07:12,570 --> 02:07:19,890 have a digital building that's existing that's in the city of industry. And so here you 1328 02:07:19,890 --> 02:07:25,430 really have room for only one more robot. That is actually area number 10. It's a 1329 02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:32,250 industrial street sandwich between the railroad and the freeway. The other area is 1330 02:07:32,250 --> 02:07:35,910 because of the existing buildings and the separation requirements, you would not be able to 1331 02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:41,930 put another bit of what in either of those areas. So once you add it all up, there's three that 1332 02:07:41,930 --> 02:07:48,430 are constructed, three approved two under application and then once you do all the math, 1333 02:07:48,430 --> 02:07:55,550 one for another eight to 11 billboards, which was 12, 16 to 19. Now, as part of these approvals, 1334 02:07:55,830 --> 02:08:01,750 a lot of them include removing older syndicate billboards. But if the question is kept on 1335 02:08:01,750 --> 02:08:07,130 up at the city council as well, is that you are, we won't have anybody to reach our cap. And so 1336 02:08:07,130 --> 02:08:12,910 based on the order of services written, but now that cap would be between 16 and 19. So if the city council 1337 02:08:12,910 --> 02:08:15,070 to consider other things, 1338 02:08:15,270 --> 02:08:15,910 within the course committee, 1339 02:08:16,230 --> 02:08:18,410 they're just going to call them and move forward with that. 1340 02:08:18,570 --> 02:08:20,330 They can add more over the areas. 1341 02:08:20,830 --> 02:08:22,230 They can place a cap. 1342 02:08:22,570 --> 02:08:26,250 On the mobile phones, either by earlier or over all of both, 1343 02:08:26,710 --> 02:08:29,350 they could, you know, ask Dr. Wilviz, 1344 02:08:29,550 --> 02:08:31,850 the wardeners may be increased separation requirements, 1345 02:08:32,130 --> 02:08:33,130 or at other requirements. 1346 02:08:33,410 --> 02:08:35,090 So that's all of the things that, 1347 02:08:35,170 --> 02:08:38,050 if the council gives staff direction to do them, 1348 02:08:38,050 --> 02:08:39,410 then we would fall in that way, 1349 02:08:39,530 --> 02:08:42,890 because I think when the program was focused, 1350 02:08:42,890 --> 02:08:49,850 You know, the first of them that came to the city, the kind of sense of part of the way that we were supposed to have things one at a time. 1351 02:08:50,210 --> 02:08:55,850 But now there's, you know, obviously nothing's going on to be able to, to, to be able to, we need to kind of see the architecture. 1352 02:08:56,690 --> 02:08:59,310 So that concludes that presentation. 1353 02:09:00,350 --> 02:09:03,130 Without the questions, our thoughts. 1354 02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:10,960 You're on the front of the head. 1355 02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:14,920 Because New Year is not here today. 1356 02:09:15,580 --> 02:09:20,040 No, they said, you have to see much of the work of this presentation today because I know 1357 02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:23,420 he had a few questions about this as well. 1358 02:09:24,500 --> 02:09:28,420 No, just appreciate the extensive work that you did on here. 1359 02:09:29,380 --> 02:09:32,260 We're talking about 18 to 19 potential billboards. 1360 02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,040 I mean, it does seem like a lot. 1361 02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:37,300 But given the considerations that we're written out there, 1362 02:09:37,300 --> 02:09:38,980 I think that there's a way of managing that. 1363 02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:41,560 Yeah. 1364 02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:42,840 Thanks here for the presentation. 1365 02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:43,760 That's great. 1366 02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:46,180 And no questions for me. 1367 02:09:46,260 --> 02:09:59,740 And also, if I may suggest if you do have, you know, if you've thought about it, you want to bring it back to a future meeting for consideration because we will be bringing this to the development ad hoc and I'm pretty sure they're going to ask with the planning commissions recommendations or feelings are on this. 1368 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:09,200 So that we can be ahead of the game. If you want to take a look at this, think about it more, and then we can always bring it back for the future to get your recommendations as well. 1369 02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:34,400 As you know, I mean, at the end of the day, obviously, you have a more than what you have than you're looking for. That's more about that. It's more about that at the same time, when you have a lot, when you have very much a close proximity at a thousand feet, the value of each boat or, you know, your revenue generation is going to be less, because the high ball is only going to be able to look at it for so long until the next boat comes up for them to look at. So, that's a balancing act in the whole thing. 1370 02:10:36,610 --> 02:10:37,830 All right? Thank you. 1371 02:10:38,750 --> 02:10:40,830 So now we have a 10B. 1372 02:10:42,110 --> 02:10:43,090 Do you guys see that on the screen? 1373 02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:44,690 Planned over the engineering divisions? 1374 02:10:45,070 --> 02:10:46,370 Or monoization program? 1375 02:10:48,030 --> 02:10:48,090 Okay. 1376 02:10:48,610 --> 02:10:51,290 So this is something that, sorry, 1377 02:10:51,390 --> 02:10:54,270 that stack has been working on for a while. 1378 02:10:54,490 --> 02:10:57,990 Actually, Sandra has been the lead in the coordinating planning 1379 02:10:57,990 --> 02:11:00,130 going to engineering on this as well as IT. 1380 02:11:00,470 --> 02:11:02,210 Finance is also bad. 1381 02:11:03,230 --> 02:11:05,330 Just to kind of solve that kind of how do we all 1382 02:11:05,330 --> 02:11:10,790 development activity because this monetization stuff is really about our programming tracking and 1383 02:11:10,790 --> 02:11:17,310 issue itself that. So you can see we did take a dip in, you know, application activities to 1384 02:11:17,310 --> 02:11:22,750 have a COVID, but we're now back at pre COVID lovers. Now those you see the number of design 1385 02:11:22,750 --> 02:11:30,090 reviews, color amendments and so forth. Initial climate use that's our preliminary projects. 1386 02:11:30,090 --> 02:11:34,930 that come in, so you can see best numbers are also back up pretty high. 1387 02:11:36,070 --> 02:11:39,090 Here's kind of a little bit of a piece of the other projects are, 1388 02:11:39,710 --> 02:11:42,890 city and issue of the district projects, commercial and residential, 1389 02:11:43,310 --> 02:11:46,410 but most of them really kind of hover around that downtown 1390 02:11:47,210 --> 02:11:50,270 gateway, you know, kind of that auto hover area. 1391 02:11:51,750 --> 02:11:54,230 And here's just a sort of kind of color activity, 1392 02:11:54,890 --> 02:11:57,390 but with a better division and the climate divisions, 1393 02:11:57,390 --> 02:12:04,390 So again, you can see over areas, you have the number of counter visits has rebounded. 1394 02:12:05,710 --> 02:12:11,550 Obviously, in 2020, and also 2021, the counter was closed for a sense of periods of time. 1395 02:12:12,210 --> 02:12:14,650 And a lot of people were doing things for remote. 1396 02:12:15,850 --> 02:12:18,090 You know, now we had input and service again. 1397 02:12:19,210 --> 02:12:24,970 The goal is to, you know, starting out with a small number of permits to be submitted online, 1398 02:12:24,970 --> 02:12:27,410 and then to expand that as well. 1399 02:12:28,210 --> 02:12:30,370 So that would probably be once we have 1400 02:12:30,370 --> 02:12:32,970 like online submitted access, 1401 02:12:33,670 --> 02:12:35,730 then most of that tracking that information as well. 1402 02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:38,770 So this is, but one of the things that we have is called 1403 02:12:38,770 --> 02:12:40,430 a weight while software and this is called 1404 02:12:40,430 --> 02:12:41,930 like a modern sign in sheet, 1405 02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:43,770 where we can track the number of customers 1406 02:12:43,770 --> 02:12:44,770 that's at the hole. 1407 02:12:45,970 --> 02:12:48,350 And this is launched earlier this year. 1408 02:12:48,670 --> 02:12:49,550 It gives a lot of information. 1409 02:12:49,810 --> 02:12:51,750 A big time, a revolution, you know, 1410 02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:57,210 someone email and I'm sorry, text message. A lot of times, you know, you get this now when you 1411 02:12:57,210 --> 02:13:01,530 go to the restaurant and they take your mobile number down and you get a text that you take 1412 02:13:01,530 --> 02:13:07,650 this right? So this is kind of so much of that but for a public sector system. And here you can, 1413 02:13:08,250 --> 02:13:11,630 you know, talk to them reports, you have a better idea of, you know, when you were busy, 1414 02:13:11,930 --> 02:13:18,090 how long it took to have individual people, how long people have to wait. And all that kind of stuff. 1415 02:13:18,090 --> 02:13:26,490 So that, you know, we can identify issues, attract them, and then, you know, improve our systems to better serve the public. 1416 02:13:28,150 --> 02:13:34,030 And the other big pieces, this wasn't actually, like, this is kind of a fraction of the whole thing, is they have that software system. 1417 02:13:34,510 --> 02:13:37,010 This is a prototyping system. 1418 02:13:38,310 --> 02:13:44,370 We have planning planning and engineering divisions, and also finance for these. 1419 02:13:44,370 --> 02:13:50,650 So, we just have to do an internal test and other things, but we have this year, so there 1420 02:13:50,650 --> 02:13:55,350 is a citizen software, so what happens is, as you come in and use some of them application 1421 02:13:55,350 --> 02:14:02,990 or CUP, we have a limited edition of your house, and so we're basically set up, you know, 1422 02:14:03,010 --> 02:14:11,230 like an account basically, and then you're planning to get up close to that, you're, you know, 1423 02:14:11,230 --> 02:14:15,410 comments from the planning division, engineering, or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 1424 02:14:15,490 --> 02:14:20,370 with them feed them to fat, and, you know, the view of a notification when something 1425 02:14:20,370 --> 02:14:21,830 is added to the mix. 1426 02:14:22,150 --> 02:14:24,810 For deadlines, for review, what else would be your methods? 1427 02:14:24,850 --> 02:14:29,090 Well, as you can see, like, what is my most recent, what am I supposed to get this comments? 1428 02:14:29,550 --> 02:14:33,350 And then you can see the computer that, oh, okay, that's the next Tuesday. 1429 02:14:34,030 --> 02:14:36,490 And then let's say, coming on Monday or something like that. 1430 02:14:37,110 --> 02:14:38,690 And you know, this is what I was supposed to do. 1431 02:14:43,110 --> 02:14:48,010 So this kind of would help them keep track of things, and then it's a little close about a comment. 1432 02:14:48,530 --> 02:14:53,870 Then anyone can really help them on the phone under the basic information, because we would not like to give us a hint of here. 1433 02:14:53,910 --> 02:14:56,170 You've got comments here and so forth and so forth. 1434 02:14:56,610 --> 02:14:59,270 And also know to what people can be notified. 1435 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:14,820 And you know, we'll be that the designer, the property owner. So everything that the designer's setting, you know, the poverty owner can get that same information. So a lot of times, there's, you know, lack of communication between the applicant and the property owner. 1436 02:15:15,300 --> 02:15:16,980 Because that's how it's a property owner, because that's how it's a property owner. 1437 02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:28,040 I, you know, my consultants, that calling me back was the status of the project. But then they can get the same notification. So it really helps with all that. And this would happen as well with condition use permits. 1438 02:15:28,040 --> 02:15:50,300 So projects that you saw earlier today, there was a big improvement in the computer, and then when the project is approved or denied, the resolution will be uploaded, the conditions will be uploaded, so you don't have to have the plan or down on it will be able to apply or do searches on just the regular work document that will all be in one place. 1439 02:15:50,980 --> 02:16:05,980 So, this, again, like I said, there would be a different system set up for, you know, things like plan trips and building projects, and then, you know, a separate kind of system for, like entitlements, like CUPs and design reviews. 1440 02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:12,480 Then here are the example of, you know, the applicant can go and enter the system and then 1441 02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:17,000 stop if they have to go to the center, okay, this is, you know, these informations can be 1442 02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:21,880 open to the applicant, but maybe these are the drafts, comments or whatever, maybe wouldn't 1443 02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:22,200 be. 1444 02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:26,060 And then they would be able to see that they will pull out all the comments, but you can get 1445 02:16:26,060 --> 02:16:26,380 it directly. 1446 02:16:26,820 --> 02:16:31,380 And then we've got a text message or an email to any of our other ID on the file, then we'll 1447 02:16:31,380 --> 02:16:34,000 that point in comments, that point in comments, 1448 02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:37,300 submit it, February 13th, and then you would buy it 1449 02:16:37,300 --> 02:16:38,680 and then you would buy it, I don't call it now, 1450 02:16:38,940 --> 02:16:40,860 so you complete the comment, complete the comments, 1451 02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:41,640 and it's a quote. 1452 02:16:42,140 --> 02:16:43,800 So you'd be able to deliver that. 1453 02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:45,380 Whether or ever you wouldn't have to vote 1454 02:16:45,380 --> 02:16:46,720 and leave that message for someone, 1455 02:16:47,140 --> 02:16:49,820 or if it's you know, so I'd like to need you to live it up. 1456 02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:53,480 We would be so proud of this, this is something 1457 02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:55,780 where we're trying to use this program, 1458 02:16:57,620 --> 02:16:59,660 so that there's the way we upload it, 1459 02:16:59,660 --> 02:17:06,220 And then staff will be able to track, do add its comments on the moving software system. 1460 02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:12,400 And this is where we're going, you know, so then let's say, it has like three recent 1461 02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:15,720 methods, you know, you can overlay the plan. 1462 02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:18,500 So you can see, oh, they're just changes. 1463 02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:20,560 They change this other thing as well. 1464 02:17:20,940 --> 02:17:25,020 So you can really, you know, understand everything that's changing, even at that 1465 02:17:25,020 --> 02:17:28,800 and maybe don't like it, correctly, you've stood me with to see that. 1466 02:17:30,500 --> 02:17:32,440 But I think to us that there's a few the system, 1467 02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:37,500 we can calculate square photos, as well, or setbacks. 1468 02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:40,580 So we would, you know, because right now it's a paper plan, 1469 02:17:40,700 --> 02:17:42,620 and we had to, you know, measure it with a ruler, 1470 02:17:43,380 --> 02:17:45,520 and get a calculator, and my God, that's not. 1471 02:17:45,860 --> 02:17:49,480 And here, you know, you would just basically trace 1472 02:17:49,480 --> 02:17:52,520 over whatever the lines are, or points are, 1473 02:17:52,520 --> 02:17:53,780 and then I would do the calculations. 1474 02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:57,180 And here, this is the lowest output program 1475 02:17:57,180 --> 02:17:58,360 that I was talking about earlier. 1476 02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:00,620 This is the one where the general plan that you guys 1477 02:18:00,620 --> 02:18:01,920 approved, that's going to cancel, 1478 02:18:02,580 --> 02:18:04,260 then I'll be added as a layer here. 1479 02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:07,660 So now we have everything, and what we're using this. 1480 02:18:08,060 --> 02:18:10,580 So we have everything that was in one place. 1481 02:18:11,060 --> 02:18:12,240 So we have everything that was in one place. 1482 02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:14,920 So we have everything that was we have, 1483 02:18:14,940 --> 02:18:16,500 the county assessor information. 1484 02:18:17,320 --> 02:18:19,920 We have the strict view, so you can see the property. 1485 02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:21,840 We also have all the other methods. 1486 02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:26,060 You can see something, you just click a button, and it approaches the different years down. 1487 02:18:26,620 --> 02:18:28,220 I think we also goes back to 2007. 1488 02:18:29,080 --> 02:18:33,400 So it's really good in looking at research, on a property, 1489 02:18:34,420 --> 02:18:36,760 providing information to the public, on a property. 1490 02:18:37,300 --> 02:18:39,020 And then you're going to go to one website. 1491 02:18:39,380 --> 02:18:40,460 Previously, I went to one. 1492 02:18:41,140 --> 02:18:43,480 Every single question you had, you had to go to different websites. 1493 02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:49,760 Also, through the system, we, you know, again, my guess, 1494 02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:56,120 we can print out the county apps, we get detailed property reports, we can get information 1495 02:18:56,120 --> 02:19:02,540 on transaction history, we have a fresh out property order, things that are not available 1496 02:19:02,540 --> 02:19:03,220 at 1497 02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:11,740 that site, primarily because of privacy and concerns, this would have like all of the 1498 02:19:11,740 --> 02:19:18,340 raw data, and then the staff will be able to access that and it just would make everything 1499 02:19:18,340 --> 02:19:24,800 much simpler and again in one place. And then, this is the part that's really cool too. Staff 1500 02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:29,840 moving forward, starting in January, starting in July, we're going to start doing the way 1501 02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:38,860 it is now in the house. So, and actually the various map for the general plan map, because that 1502 02:19:38,860 --> 02:19:48,320 was a city initiative project, so we made the various map ourselves on that. And then we can, you 1503 02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:57,160 with all the labels, say that it's a PDF and we're so kind of figuring out how to move on to the format and the colors and stuff like that. 1504 02:19:58,300 --> 02:19:59,960 But this is going to be going to be great. 1505 02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:23,440 So, on the, as I was saying, program. So, I also to note on, sorry, on this sheet, that we have a letter for, we're adding the zoning map, the general plan map, you know, we already have the water just to fill there. Other things, maps that we're going to do include like council, the council districts is up there, sorry, like school districts, 1506 02:20:25,520 --> 02:20:29,520 you know, annexations, so we can do, you know, 1507 02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:34,360 have to get uploaded to a map from, you know, 20 or a lot of input footage on our planet 1508 02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:35,280 so it's not bad. 1509 02:20:35,540 --> 02:20:38,960 And again, you can access all that sort of, you know, at your desk basically. 1510 02:20:39,940 --> 02:20:44,240 So that kind of concludes that presentation just wanted to share them with you guys so that 1511 02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:46,160 it works out about people working out for a while. 1512 02:20:49,130 --> 02:20:49,610 Thank you, Jason. 1513 02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:57,280 No, I mean, this is exciting, you know, as a customer, what does it mean for me? 1514 02:20:57,280 --> 02:20:58,100 Is it going to be faster? 1515 02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:00,720 Sure. 1516 02:21:01,340 --> 02:21:02,040 There's a couple of things. 1517 02:21:02,040 --> 02:21:05,580 So I think we want to do a great of detail on this. 1518 02:21:05,640 --> 02:21:10,720 Obviously, for the immigrant stuff, this is an example of the African-Americans, 1519 02:21:11,460 --> 02:21:17,000 whoops, are the African-Americans with the Appalachian can see, so that is all 1520 02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:17,560 way in place. 1521 02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:18,820 And we're testing it. 1522 02:21:19,860 --> 02:21:25,820 The goal is that through the same system, you would be able to submit your applications. 1523 02:21:26,900 --> 02:21:30,800 The other thing we're generally going to do about the fees amounts when we take an 1524 02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:42,980 CUP, then you know, identify all the fees, and then you know, you know, they just go straight to the finance or the house right way, you know, in there, in the, in the, ever see. 1525 02:21:43,300 --> 02:21:47,460 But right now the applicants are able to use the interface, but in a go. 1526 02:21:51,130 --> 02:22:01,410 Because what's going to happen is the promise that are torn on blue bean, those would then be uploaded into the interface software. 1527 02:22:01,410 --> 02:22:02,770 So they lived in that sense. 1528 02:22:03,770 --> 02:22:06,590 So if you drew it, that lines the comments on it, 1529 02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:09,630 and then you would upload it to the integral system, 1530 02:22:10,050 --> 02:22:12,430 and then whoever on the notification list 1531 02:22:12,430 --> 02:22:15,970 will get an email or text message, they'll find that. 1532 02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:18,230 Now, as far as the note about software, 1533 02:22:19,890 --> 02:22:22,930 there, you know, we could allow, 1534 02:22:23,250 --> 02:22:25,190 well, so it thinks we were a providence information, 1535 02:22:25,970 --> 02:22:29,450 but the goal is to have as much of a good accessible 1536 02:22:29,450 --> 02:22:35,510 to the public as possible. So, you know, to have the selling map, to have the general plan map, 1537 02:22:36,830 --> 02:22:41,330 to have those type of things we could certainly make those things about to the public as well. 1538 02:22:42,370 --> 02:22:47,530 And then our thought was, you know, the public version of it, you know, we would kind of get 1539 02:22:47,530 --> 02:22:55,270 left out so we would have a time. So, you know, so that probably the first purpose that we would take 1540 02:22:55,270 --> 02:23:05,400 would be you know the credit of the year. Great. Thank you. So this is 247. Yes. 1541 02:23:07,340 --> 02:23:12,500 That's cool. My first example was here, like the property detail that would be confidential. 1542 02:23:12,560 --> 02:23:18,420 So we would not get that to the applicant. There would actually, you know, basically subscribe to the own service. 1543 02:23:18,480 --> 02:23:21,960 So that's a valuable online through the county, but not all of it. 1544 02:23:25,070 --> 02:23:31,830 Thank you. So a question for the blue being software. I believe that sometimes when an applicant 1545 02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:37,730 is trying to do something minor from what I remember you can go to planning and just kind of draw it 1546 02:23:37,730 --> 02:23:42,450 by hand and turn it in is that still like something that you guys do for like minor things? 1547 02:23:43,150 --> 02:23:47,650 Yes, who also has that available? Would they be able to kind of use go on the software and do it there? 1548 02:23:48,110 --> 02:23:52,730 Or is it something that they just have to upload? Yeah, it's very technical for you to work the blue being 1549 02:23:52,730 --> 02:23:57,470 software, so it's going to just be basically the planers and the building plan checker that has 1550 02:23:57,470 --> 02:24:04,970 access to actually writing on to blue beam. But when you're, say your architect resummits, 1551 02:24:05,810 --> 02:24:10,530 you know, they can still have access to it and they, they would probably use the same system. 1552 02:24:10,810 --> 02:24:15,230 You've got it. But for just your everyday property owner, then it would probably be more difficult 1553 02:24:15,230 --> 02:24:22,710 to use that. Because you have to actually have the program. You've got it. Okay. And then for the 1554 02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:27,510 I mean, you know, we'll still be taking a paper things and so forth and paper drives. 1555 02:24:28,550 --> 02:24:33,510 But, you know, there's a, so right now we are actually uploading like our really big projects. 1556 02:24:34,150 --> 02:24:38,130 We're going to upload it, put them in plan check and then I ourselves and what we're doing. 1557 02:24:38,570 --> 02:24:39,890 Well, you know, offsite. 1558 02:24:41,150 --> 02:24:48,070 And that house, because then we're not like working plans over in a place in waiting for way, you know, to travel time and stuff like that. 1559 02:24:48,070 --> 02:24:55,170 Um, but we would start this for the, you know, for the next foreseeable future that we would still have paper stuff as well. 1560 02:24:56,170 --> 02:24:59,850 Got it. And then for the noble softly, um, with this vehicle. 1561 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:05,100 May for us to communicate better, not just with the property owners, but with the residents. 1562 02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:14,440 You know, we're still actually playing a lot with that. We have some, I know it has, if a property has 1563 02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:21,760 also been found in addresses, you know, every house, and so forth, and then we can do this with that. 1564 02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:27,000 But I'm not sure if this has to come past it, I don't think it does if it's not going to come past it. 1565 02:25:28,860 --> 02:25:36,580 Yeah, because I know one of the biggest concerns we've always had is like communicating with not just the property owners, but the residents. 1566 02:25:38,180 --> 02:25:47,940 So we discussed before that the costs involved by knowing not just the property owners, but knowing the residents will be drastically more expensive, but we can 1567 02:25:49,240 --> 02:25:57,960 somewhat digitalized it and do it via text message or email, like hey listen, something is going on here in your residence. 1568 02:25:58,620 --> 02:25:59,960 I feel like I'm like kind of great. 1569 02:26:00,140 --> 02:26:08,860 Yeah, right now the only information that we would have access to that's provided under the system would be a dress, basically. 1570 02:26:08,920 --> 02:26:13,320 Now in a dress, you don't either for, obviously for all the properties, we would have a mailing address. 1571 02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:18,820 And then we're still trying to figure out the reason and think, if it's a block of single-family homes, 1572 02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:24,600 then definitely when the labor would just say it's just a resident and then had the address. 1573 02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:26,000 So it had that specific address. 1574 02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:30,240 So it's basically taking, like what's the address? 1575 02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:32,740 It's one, two, three, four, you know, the value. 1576 02:26:33,700 --> 02:26:36,600 Then it would show up like, oh, that's the address for this property. 1577 02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:39,340 And we know they don't go with that address. 1578 02:26:39,340 --> 02:26:45,700 But if it's like a unit, a unit B unit C, like it doesn't, it's not smart enough to know that. 1579 02:26:47,580 --> 02:26:49,660 So this is not something that we're going to be, like, 1580 02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:53,920 texting or emailing, this is more like, no, no. 1581 02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:58,780 This is only now. I mean, there's no, I mean, certainly not. 1582 02:26:59,980 --> 02:27:04,180 I mean, like, do you have a thesis with, like, mobile phone numbers, for example, they're not complete. 1583 02:27:04,180 --> 02:27:05,360 and that, uh, names. 1584 02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:08,180 The address per second. 1585 02:27:08,740 --> 02:27:14,180 Um, you know, so, I don't know, how that, at least in the todays world, you know, it's not at that point yet. 1586 02:27:14,480 --> 02:27:16,000 Okay, thank you. 1587 02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:16,580 Well, I know. 1588 02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:21,300 I mean, yeah, I mean, people can sign up for, like, uh, which we call it, like what we post, 1589 02:27:21,520 --> 02:27:22,800 and you can get, you know,... 1590 02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:25,900 or I've got to get that text message every sometimes in a junk of posts... 1591 02:27:25,900 --> 02:27:27,220 So people have bad. 1592 02:27:27,780 --> 02:27:31,980 So, you know, the chamber, paas, or, you know, if you're a neighbor, a group, a neighbor, a association. 1593 02:27:32,660 --> 02:27:49,120 And, you know, you sign up for that or whatever, and then you would, you would, you know, get that information, it emails to you, but not, but we don't have, there's no record, that's a official record of life, what do email addresses, or a mobile number. 1594 02:27:50,300 --> 02:27:52,900 Because this is all for the checks, this is all for the checks, this is all for the checks rolls. 1595 02:27:55,360 --> 02:28:01,860 Jason, I wonder if you could, and this is by playing the sky. 1596 02:28:01,860 --> 02:28:08,300 And if you'd be able to tie it into the geo-request system. 1597 02:28:10,980 --> 02:28:18,620 Because the app that I've ever seen earlier where you can report certain items or look for information. 1598 02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:23,260 I don't know if you could also input your address in front of them. 1599 02:28:23,580 --> 02:28:28,100 And then like you said, you know, take off a little boxing. 1600 02:28:28,100 --> 02:28:36,300 Let me know about any projects in my area that are, you know, that are coming or are going to be on an agenda soon or some of all those lines. 1601 02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:45,220 Yeah, I mean, that's could certainly be, you know, I mean, down the board, I think, you know, we could see what the capabilities are at the program. 1602 02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:54,740 So, I mean, I haven't know that. And obviously, you know, the program will continue to, as a software program will continue to, you know, expand and do things. 1603 02:28:54,740 --> 02:28:58,080 You know, so the five years from now, it's probably been able to do it, but I just thought that we 1604 02:28:58,080 --> 02:28:59,160 kept it doing it. 1605 02:28:59,340 --> 02:29:00,920 I had to imagine I should think about it. 1606 02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:02,880 Well, I'm looking at it right now. 1607 02:29:02,980 --> 02:29:05,000 I'm looking at the, the, the, the app. 1608 02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:12,120 There's actually a per week as subscribe to, uh, updates and releases and one of them is for 1609 02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:17,220 development and redevelopment and redevelopment information is in there as well. 1610 02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:23,820 So, I believe there's one for planning commission as well, like if you want to just be informed 1611 02:29:23,820 --> 02:29:27,800 of every time the planning commission agenda posts, and then they'll be able to see if there's 1612 02:29:27,800 --> 02:29:30,940 anything around their residential area. 1613 02:29:35,630 --> 02:29:36,690 All right, we're good, thank you. 1614 02:29:37,230 --> 02:29:37,790 All right. 1615 02:29:38,050 --> 02:29:38,310 There we go. 1616 02:29:38,510 --> 02:29:39,050 That's not sure. 1617 02:29:39,130 --> 02:29:40,330 A quick question, Jason. 1618 02:29:41,110 --> 02:29:48,490 With the software, would it have any impact or is there a way to measure when applications 1619 02:29:48,490 --> 02:29:50,110 for ministerial review? 1620 02:29:50,770 --> 02:29:56,230 I'm just thinking about the permit streamlining act and anything that has a timing with regard 1621 02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:59,530 troubles like one something and applications didn't complete. 1622 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,960 Is this software that you're proposing to use? Would it track that type of thing? Where the clock starts ticking? 1623 02:30:08,980 --> 02:30:15,760 Yeah, I'm not sure what you said, but through the interactive program, like if, for example, 1624 02:30:15,900 --> 02:30:21,140 come to Sri Mani, you had the 30A's, so we would, that we could have that automatically 1625 02:30:21,140 --> 02:30:24,680 populate when something that's missed that location for CUP, right? 1626 02:30:25,720 --> 02:30:31,180 So it's so funny that, um, as far as I'm not sure what you're saying about the 7th 1627 02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:41,020 That was my question, yes, like I'm thinking of like 60 days for 80 years, you know, that's sort of thing. 1628 02:30:41,240 --> 02:30:56,720 Yeah, and then the other thing is, this is a part where, you know, for the era of program, you know, what pieces of it would be exactly what I mean. 1629 02:30:57,520 --> 02:31:02,120 Because certain information, obviously for property owner, you know, they open a kind of 1630 02:31:02,120 --> 02:31:04,540 account that can look up for it on the property and stuff like that. 1631 02:31:04,860 --> 02:31:10,140 But if it's just on the public, you know, because of some privacy issues, it's done 1632 02:31:10,140 --> 02:31:14,340 through like the public records request if they want information, detail information on the 1633 02:31:14,340 --> 02:31:14,540 property. 1634 02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:16,880 So the question is, this would be working with people. 1635 02:31:17,740 --> 02:31:21,880 Well, that information that any from the air does, you know, would be available 1636 02:31:21,880 --> 02:31:24,380 for the public, just for that in the public in general. 1637 02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:28,740 down the road and that's that's obviously when I'm a place to do that now we don't 1638 02:31:28,740 --> 02:31:32,280 want to get out of ourselves but that would be just like conversation to have. 1639 02:31:38,900 --> 02:31:42,700 Good Jason. I don't want to see you train your work. 1640 02:31:44,760 --> 02:31:51,220 I don't know but I do have one more. I didn't do a part and I'm not that person but it is 1641 02:31:51,220 --> 02:31:55,240 official. I am going to be leaving the city of Almante and I don't know if you've seen 1642 02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:59,440 what your heard or not. So I'll be here at the end of the month. 1643 02:32:02,060 --> 02:32:02,760 Thank you, Mr. Leading. 1644 02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:06,440 So, I'll come to that meeting to say everyone as well. 1645 02:32:08,570 --> 02:32:09,330 Breaking my heart, Jason. 1646 02:32:10,390 --> 02:32:11,270 Right now. 1647 02:32:13,780 --> 02:32:15,460 I'd like to say thanks, Jason. 1648 02:32:16,120 --> 02:32:17,120 Thank you so much. 1649 02:32:20,320 --> 02:32:21,160 Yeah, it's for Jason's. 1650 02:32:21,180 --> 02:32:23,740 I probably, I may not be here for that meeting. 1651 02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:27,900 I'm not sure yet, but in case I'm not, yes, 1652 02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:30,820 I wish you great success. 1653 02:32:31,960 --> 02:32:34,860 Although it would be nicer just to keep you here. 1654 02:32:36,720 --> 02:32:39,140 But in all these years, I've appreciated 1655 02:32:39,140 --> 02:32:44,760 all the work you've put in and I've appreciated your patience with me and I appreciate every time 1656 02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:48,320 you've explained some of these items for me. Thank you Jason. 1657 02:32:51,340 --> 02:32:52,560 Thank you very much. I will 1658 02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:57,240 obviously have been working with all of the different body commissions over the years, but 1659 02:33:02,070 --> 02:33:15,610 it's just 1660 02:33:18,830 --> 02:33:19,430 Well, 1661 02:33:21,830 --> 02:33:37,110 what I was going to say before Jason, shared that is a piggybacking on the issue of privacy, there was a request or a question that had come up at a previous meeting with regard to sharing mailing labels of who had received noticing. 1662 02:33:37,110 --> 02:33:50,010 And so we did look at that and consider that, but given the privacy interest around the public records act, 1663 02:33:50,930 --> 02:34:00,210 typically what we would have is that personal contact information is information that would be redacted from published items. 1664 02:34:00,210 --> 02:34:07,450 and so we would have to look at the public interest exception to see if there was a public 1665 02:34:07,450 --> 02:34:12,850 interest that would outweigh in disclosure versus the public interest in protecting the 1666 02:34:12,850 --> 02:34:19,550 pricing information. And so it's very facts specific tasks, but ultimately we advised the 1667 02:34:19,550 --> 02:34:25,350 city is that even if it weren't as closeable, that would be something that would be a citywide policy 1668 02:34:25,350 --> 02:34:28,990 decision, that it wouldn't be something that would just be specific to our commission, 1669 02:34:28,990 --> 02:34:32,310 But we have to look at it as a citywide policy. 1670 02:34:33,470 --> 02:34:39,430 So at this point, what we would advise is to continue to share the latest map, 1671 02:34:39,810 --> 02:34:43,390 which just shows the general description for this is a bit, 1672 02:34:43,710 --> 02:34:48,590 but not publish a specific list of name in labels with names and addresses. 1673 02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:52,250 People, because we would ultimately adopt that information anyway, 1674 02:34:52,410 --> 02:34:56,410 so it defeats the purpose of including it in the packet, 1675 02:34:56,410 --> 02:34:59,930 which I think is from what I understood with the original request was. 1676 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:07,720 We used to get it. They used to be and then I realized it stopped coming in that, but there used to be. 1677 02:35:49,540 --> 02:35:54,760 That, I think, was the other thing too, was we met, I mean, I know we joined in the past, but 1678 02:35:54,760 --> 02:35:57,500 I mean, it's in those words, like, we published a tap. 1679 02:35:58,860 --> 02:36:02,720 And then also to add, we have a record of that, so if there's a question as to, 1680 02:36:02,720 --> 02:36:07,200 someone wants to know if they did receive a mail or not, then we can confirm it. 1681 02:36:09,240 --> 02:36:14,860 Yeah, I told that a planner, so they used to have a hard copy printed of the labels, and they, 1682 02:36:14,860 --> 02:36:19,880 you know, they address them and everything, like in their case file, so if someone does say, 1683 02:36:19,880 --> 02:36:36,720 But what I'm saying is because I'm just for the East and I didn't get a notification, you know, we'd be able to look at what we're talking in within like what 15 seconds and just say, oh, we give, you know, was mal to this person under this name, to address a dress. 1684 02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:42,540 So, you know, then, you know, maybe with someone else's law also got that bail and 1685 02:36:42,540 --> 02:36:47,700 described it and the person was commenting, you know, with an aware of it or something. 1686 02:36:48,020 --> 02:36:53,400 And then I have stopped the house recently that the county has taken a couple of months to update 1687 02:36:53,400 --> 02:36:53,920 the records. 1688 02:36:54,960 --> 02:36:58,820 So, you know, maybe it doesn't show the new owner yet because he hasn't been updated in their 1689 02:36:58,820 --> 02:36:59,080 system. 1690 02:36:59,220 --> 02:37:03,880 So, we believe this will look all that up, because that is important information for staff 1691 02:37:03,880 --> 02:37:08,520 in the commission to have, and if they were from the public, they could certainly come 1692 02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:14,960 through the office and view it, so it's not confidential as in, you know, it can't 1693 02:37:14,960 --> 02:37:16,260 be viewed ever. 1694 02:37:16,760 --> 02:37:21,740 That, as far as in a publishing format, I think was the, was the concern and that's the 1695 02:37:21,740 --> 02:37:26,440 main reason why other government or, like, the county doesn't publish that kind of stuff. 1696 02:37:29,610 --> 02:37:29,770 All right. 1697 02:37:29,830 --> 02:37:30,390 Thank you, Jason. 1698 02:37:31,550 --> 02:37:34,610 And we're trying to commission a comments commission as well. 1699 02:37:36,630 --> 02:37:39,210 Thank you so much for everything that you guys have today. 1700 02:37:40,190 --> 02:37:41,050 And that's it. 1701 02:37:42,750 --> 02:37:42,790 Yep. 1702 02:37:42,890 --> 02:37:44,590 All right. And then for me as well. 1703 02:37:44,890 --> 02:37:48,210 And so then our next schedule meeting is Tuesday, June 27th. 1704 02:37:48,410 --> 02:37:50,310 That's a PM right here. 1705 02:37:50,970 --> 02:37:51,910 This meeting is adjourned.