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[2:52] Okay, are you with applicant?
[2:54] Non, I oppose the project.
[3:01] Do you know what agenda number is that you are?
[3:07] Thank you.
[3:14] Okay, give me a few minutes.
[3:22] Okay.
[3:22] Thank you for having me.
[3:23] Thank you for your attention.
[3:25] I want to thank you for the support from the council and for the council.
[3:33] Okay.
[3:35] Okay.
[3:35] It's a good project.
[4:34] Thank you very much.
[4:37] Have you had a meeting?
[4:38] Ha ha ha ha.
[4:50] Can you solve the problem?
[4:56] Can you solve the problem?
[4:58] Yeah.
[5:00] To the public, I
[5:06] don't know if that happens. Is it a one-on-one argument?
[5:42] So, do you know what the address is for the item?
[5:45] It's the, uh, some, it's a table of value, water,
[5:50] a crack looks, water of the kitchen,
[5:52] a corner of the brunch, he's doing,
[5:54] I don't know that.
[5:55] Oh, someone's like, it's this one.
[5:57] One way to rent it.
[5:58] So you're only gonna have item eight points, yeah?
[6:01] So, thanks for your support, that on that card.
[6:04] Thank you.
[6:04] Thank you.
[6:05] Thank
[6:56] you.
[7:02] Thank you.
[7:03] So, can you put your phone in your door?
[7:10] In the number two.
[7:22] Yes, yes, it is.
[7:24] Thank you.
[7:31] Yes,
[7:34] yes.
[7:35] Yes, yes.
[7:35] Yes, yes.
[7:36] Yes, yes.
[7:36] Can you say that you also change to?
[7:39] And based on the smart material, can you?
[7:41] You can have some answers.
[7:43] Yes.
[7:44] Okay.
[7:45] You told us that you have three years.
[7:48] Three years?
[7:48] Yes.
[7:49] The other life of the math plus one.
[7:52] Yes.
[7:53] I'm not talking about that.
[7:54] Okay.
[7:55] Okay.
[9:20] That's number five, then right?
[9:25] All right.
[9:27] Number 11, where is the one you want to?
[9:31] Yeah.
[9:32] So if you say that, it's called number.
[9:34] After the final recommendation of the recommendation of the faculty.
[9:38] So you're from the everybody's level of the faculty.
[9:40] So, okay, then okay, within the trauma,
[9:44] they can still put a permit.
[9:47] After the recommendation of the faculty.
[9:49] Okay.
[9:50] And P, okay, in a month, you have to record a map before you can put them away.
[9:58] You have a message.
[10:02] Thank you, thank you.
[13:35] Good day.
[13:37] Pretty good, how are you?
[13:40] About 10-10.
[13:41] 3.
[13:42] 8-10.
[13:43] 10.
[13:47] Always good.
[13:50] 10-10.
[13:50] Yeah, 9-10.
[13:53] 10.
[13:54] 10.
[14:00] Great to see you.
[14:02] 10-10.
[14:03] 10-10.
[14:04] 10-10.
[14:06] 10-10.
[14:07] 10.
[14:13] 10.
[15:00] All gentlemen, the committee's voices were sent in the afternoon.
[15:03] Local government, public comment, motion, second, aye, the abstain, adjourned.
[15:08] Rest up to the meeting.
[15:11] More than one, more than one, more than one, more than one, more than one, more than one, more than one.
[15:22] I'm all Jason's
[15:47] here.
[15:59] I'm not a teacher, I'm not a teacher, I'm a teacher,
[16:09] I'm a teacher,
[16:16] I'm
[16:19] a teacher.
[16:19] We call this meeting of the city of North Atlantic Commission.
[16:24] According in progress.
[16:26] We call this meeting of the city of North Atlantic Commission to order.
[16:33] We please rise for the flag salute.
[16:39] Ready, begin.
[16:41] I'm pleased to lead you to the flag of the United States of America.
[16:45] And to the Republic for which it stands.
[16:48] One nation, under God.
[16:50] And the Biscuits will put liberty and justice for all.
[16:54] Welcome.
[17:00] Let's try pressing the arrow here.
[17:05] Thank you.
[17:06] Can you show me the doll?
[17:08] Here.
[17:09] And let's open it like that.
[17:11] Can you show me your husband excuse absence?
[17:16] Okay, thank you.
[17:19] I'll probably do it.
[17:20] Can you show me the doll?
[17:26] I'll show you the doll.
[17:27] I'll show you the doll.
[17:29] This is a second-by-commission time machine.
[17:32] Call for the boat, commissioning results.
[17:34] I'm sure.
[17:35] I.
[17:36] And I finish up as well at 3.0.
[17:40] I don't remember five commissioning scores, commissioning results.
[17:45] Question time show.
[17:46] I just wanted to disclose that I do live within 300 feet of Agenda item 3-.
[17:51] I mean, it's our 8-3 general planning and 0-3-23.
[17:56] So I use live within proximity of it.
[18:02] That's just for the general planning ended.
[18:05] So yeah, so he's going to make sure that I disclose that, that's all.
[18:11] I think for myself.
[18:14] Alright, I remember six public comments.
[18:17] This is a solution to address a planning commission on land use and development matters may do so at this time.
[18:22] Know that the commission cannot respond to you or taking action on the item.
[18:26] This is an solution to speak on an agenda item with giving the opportunity to speak after the item is presented by staff.
[18:33] Please let me get your comments to three months,
[18:35] state your name and address for the record.
[18:37] And the audience now hear for anything other than an agenda item.
[18:44] Anybody on the Zoom, we're still doing a Zoom thing, right?
[18:48] And the on Zoom that we'll like to speak on a land use of the value matter
[18:52] that is not on the agenda.
[18:55] Please raise your hand on the Zoom.
[19:01] And then as a hand raised.
[19:03] All right.
[19:04] If you want to consent calendar, I don't know the same point 1 and 7.2.
[19:13] The minutes for the, um, uh, get by the team, uh, planning commission meeting.
[19:22] I'm going to be left out of the agenda.
[19:24] So we can include that next on the next agenda.
[19:27] So we're doing a lot of item 7.2 from the consent calendar.
[19:30] Correct.
[19:31] All right. So item 7.2 is removed.
[19:33] We only have item 7.1 of consent calendar.
[19:36] Is it?
[19:38] Oh, I put the picture.
[19:40] Not the same point three is the time extension.
[19:46] That's the same thing.
[19:48] Is it?
[19:51] Oh,
[19:56] that makes sense.
[19:59] Motion is in.
[20:02] Exception, anybody wants to take to item 7.3 million consent, or do we want to roll it out into consent count or 7.1 million and 7.3 together?
[20:12] Do we want to discuss, we can pull it out for discussion. We can pull a 7.3 out for discussion, just the 7.1, or if you guys are finding the 7.3,
[20:25] okay?
[20:26] I like a motion.
[20:29] I move the K7.3 in the consent.
[20:31] Well, just to you, just to you, you approve a consent counter.
[20:35] Okay, I move to approve.
[20:37] And I was second by motion.
[20:39] That's a motion by commissioning.
[20:41] As I was the second by commissioning.
[20:43] Pull out to for the consent counter.
[20:45] Call for the vote.
[20:46] Push me as I.
[20:47] I.
[20:47] To be sure.
[20:49] And I finish up as well.
[20:51] That's.
[20:51] Three zero on the consent counter.
[20:54] All right, I don't remember 8.1 public hearings to get personal mat number 82752, design review number 11-21, and this is at 1-2522 in the most recent state.
[21:38] Good evening chair, planning commission.
[21:40] We are here in regards to tentative parcel mat number 82752, and design review 1121 for property located at 1-2522 in the most recent state.
[21:55] The size currently located between Parkway and Drive.
[21:59] I'm sorry, it's currently located between Parkway Drive and Derfee Avenue.
[22:04] For the general plan, it has a low density residential.
[22:08] The zoning is R1B within a proximity.
[22:14] Sorry.
[22:15] Within a proximity of 75 feet, a lot size of 28,397.
[22:22] the parcel is currently a vacant lot. This parcel is currently surrounded by other properties
[22:28] with the same zoning and same general plan designation. To the south of this parcel there is
[22:36] multi-family and to the other side it's the northeast and west it's currently in single-family residential
[22:43] development.
[22:52] So the tentative parcel map number 82752 is being proposed to sub divided the existing
[22:58] In 28,397 square foot lot into three lots for individual ownership with one common lot for vehicle access.
[23:07] Design Review number 1121 is to review the site configuration, architectural design, and landscaping for housing development projects with three or more dwelling units.
[23:20] As you can see in this area zone in the area, in blue, marked sub-excite, that is the current site location.
[23:29] You can also see the area to the right of that.
[23:34] This is a current photo of the site, which shows that it is a vacant lot.
[23:41] As you can see from this tentative parcel map, there are three parcels for residential use with a common lot with an area of 6,520 square feet.
[23:51] partial 1 is being proposed at 5,247 square feet, partial 2 at 7,76 square feet, and partial 3 with 9,554 square feet.
[24:05] Both partial 1 and partial 2 have a proposed new single family dwelling at 1,870 square feet,
[24:14] Apostle 3 has a dwelling proposal of 1865 square feet.
[24:20] There is existing perimeter fencing of block wall.
[24:26] They are also proposing a new front fence at 3 feet high with pilasters and watt iron,
[24:33] as well as new fencing around one of the side property lines and the rear property lines
[24:38] of a block wall at six feet high.
[24:45] Approved the design review requirement.
[24:51] The housing development with three housing projects requires approval of a design review.
[24:57] In order to achieve this applying commission may grant
[25:00] The December view approval for the new construction provided that the architecture building materials and landscaping of high quality and consistent with the city's comprehensive design guidelines.
[25:12] It is staff assessment that the architecture building material and landscaping are consistent with that design guidelines.
[25:19] In this one, you can see the front elevation for both unit 1 and 2, which are front
[25:26] magnolia.
[25:28] The proposed architectural theme is Spanish style.
[25:32] This is the elevation for the rear parcel, for the rear dwelling at the rear parcel.
[25:38] You can see the architectural elements for the Spanish style, such as roof tile and decorative
[25:45] Terracotta events.
[25:48] Again, this is a material board that identifies
[25:51] the materials in conjunction with the proposed architectural style.
[26:02] This is a conceptual landscape plan.
[26:06] The applicant proposes to remove
[26:08] life-protective trees, which they will have to replace
[26:11] those protected trees at a two-to-one ratio.
[26:17] Again, this is the conceptual landscaping.
[26:19] As you can see, there's going to be a combination of trees, shrubs and ground cover.
[26:27] The development standards are being met per the current development zone in code.
[26:34] They meet the density requirements, the front yard setback, the side yard setbacks, the rear setbacks, the height,
[26:41] lot coverage FAR distance between building and the required off street parking. It is stats recommendation
[26:49] that the planning commission adopt a categorical exemption under Article 19 section 15303
[26:59] for the construction of conversion of mass structures and under minor land divisions under section 15315
[27:08] It is also a stress recommendation that the tentative parcel map 82752 and this is our
[27:15] review 11-21, our approved subject to the conditions of approval and resolution number
[27:22] 3625.
[27:23] This concludes my presentation.
[27:27] Thank you.
[27:28] Commissioner's questions for staff.
[27:31] Now for me, not at this point.
[27:35] Okay, is the applicant in attendance?
[27:38] Yes.
[27:38] The applicant is here.
[27:44] Good evening.
[27:45] Thank you for your permission.
[27:47] I am a staff.
[27:49] My name is Cayman Lai.
[27:51] I'm the party designer.
[27:52] Andrews 8740H is valuable over.
[27:55] Sweet Kate Roseme.
[27:58] First of all, Kate.
[28:00] I'm very pleased to present this project in front of you tonight.
[28:04] And we work with staff for pretty long time, okay.
[28:07] because I think there was some intensity change that
[28:11] that delayed the public hearing.
[28:16] It was...
[28:19] It was...
[28:20] Well, okay.
[28:21] Yeah, that's...
[28:22] I'm sorry, okay.
[28:24] That's a long story.
[28:28] And the staff report has been prepared very detailed.
[28:33] So it pleaded every single item of the project so I'm not going to repeat that and raise your time.
[28:42] And this is a very simple straightforward compared to the rapid development of M1D likely.
[28:49] This is only a three unit project and each unit is roughly less than 1900 square feet with 34 bedrooms.
[28:59] and their ample of open space around the houses and
[29:05] participants from the neighbors.
[29:08] I'm here to ask your approval for this project,
[29:12] and are we okay with the conditions of the proof-force?
[29:17] Excuse questions for the applicant?
[29:22] I just had a question.
[29:24] I know it's two parking unit,
[29:27] and I see that there's ample space in the pathways.
[29:31] So they can do more cars a lot to park within the property size, is that suppose we
[29:38] just grasp a concrete.
[29:40] There are some open space, okay, right next to the garage, you can see, okay, those
[29:46] are potential, okay, recreation way area, like for kids to play balance, or location, they
[29:53] can temporary part of the car there.
[29:57] If you can see the vision in there, then you can see it.
[30:00] So there's no, there's not a designated parking space, it's not all the way to the property owner. This is a more versatile.
[30:07] Okay, they can use it for recreation, or for over four parking, doing holidays.
[30:13] Got it. And then I noticed that were the locations for the trash bins, the reciprocals are on the back of the properties.
[30:20] Notice that the world need two trash bins, correct?
[30:24] Or that's just a conceptual, a graphic presentation of that,
[30:29] okay, that can be more, okay, because the space is pretty wide.
[30:32] Okay, he's not an extra little bit.
[30:34] They're taking the organic compost now into consideration,
[30:37] so there's more trash bins, stuff like that.
[30:41] And I was trying to skin through it.
[30:44] properties are already ready for electric, the garage already ready for electric car vehicles.
[30:52] Oh, that is a beautiful requirement. Okay, so it's already set up. I couldn't see it, got it.
[30:57] And I think that's it for me. Thank you. And I didn't get to look closely enough.
[31:07] I'm assuming it's basically no parking around the driveway, right? Go on the road.
[31:11] That is a ton of water boiling, and then there will be some type of what's going to be, so that
[31:22] that free nifty space there in what looks like a in the music parcel 3 is that just belong to parcel 3 or is it open to all three parcels.
[31:37] It looks like it's in partial three, so then yes, partial three is going to be in control of what happens there.
[31:43] Yes, that is correct.
[31:44] Okay, so if you know the way from partial two, we want to go park the car then and just leave it there would then be subject to whatever partial three wants to do.
[31:52] That is correct.
[31:54] Okay.
[31:54] That makes sense.
[31:55] All right, that's all the questions I have.
[31:58] Thanks sir.
[31:59] Thank you.
[32:00] Anybody else want to speak on this item?
[32:03] Yes, we need to have a speaker card from Mr. Philippe,
[32:07] such as...
[32:08] Okay. Mr. Sanchez, consider for...
[32:12] I like to have this property and I oppose for the construction
[32:17] because we live in an R1B cell.
[32:22] According to the measurements,
[32:25] they want to build four properties.
[32:28] right and because I've already I came before to the speaker about it and they show me
[32:41] all the blueprints because once before you give back I tried to build three houses
[32:48] it only the property doesn't qualify for three houses and my lot is the same size, same size
[32:54] because these properties, I know they're only a loved one,
[32:57] in according to the map and the mountain map.
[33:03] We live in the yellow zone,
[33:06] which is R1B,
[33:08] one A1B and one C is allowed for only one family dwelling house.
[33:16] Or maybe I explain myself.
[33:21] So the properties that are zone R1C and R1A per zoning code are only permitted to have a single
[33:27] family residence. I'm not familiar with his address or the site. I'm more than happy to work with you.
[33:38] What is your address?
[33:42] 2749, part of the
[33:46] way.
[33:46] And I don't know, my other neighbors and then other not here,
[33:50] but they were telling me they were trying to be here
[33:52] because they were supposed to have the construction.
[33:55] Well, I mean, if they construct two houses,
[33:58] two family houses will be okay,
[34:00] but they want to build more and more houses.
[34:01] We had so many traffic on the streets and, you know,
[34:07] and, okay, thank you, sir.
[34:09] Thank you.
[34:11] So my question for staff,
[34:12] And then I'll remember something similar or hearing something similar about this location.
[34:19] What's the thinking of the straight French?
[34:22] Is there an issue with the straight French?
[34:24] The minimum street French need a more to build three lots or three residential locations?
[34:34] This is what I'm actually not familiar with the site,
[34:37] so I'm not sure what the street frontage is or...
[34:40] for this one, for this one, for this one. Sorry.
[34:44] No, so with this one, this parcel doesn't have the requirements.
[34:49] Hold on.
[34:50] This is 75.
[34:51] So it doesn't need the density requirements.
[34:54] It needs all the setback requirements.
[34:56] So this property doesn't need that.
[34:58] I'm not entirely sure with.
[35:00] With the applicant, I would end with the gentleman that came up, but this one does need the density requirements, the setback requirements, aiming to Auckland zoning standards.
[35:11] This is Jason as well, just to add, because our one view zone is something that we look at closely when we do the zoning cut-up date.
[35:19] And it's the zone where if your property is large or it's like a sliding scale, basically the larger property is and the wider your property is, then you're about to increase the density to a maximum of six units per acre, which is 1 per 7,288 square feet or 264 feet or something.
[35:42] And at that time too, even I get at all the properties in the city, how many of them were different sizes, different widths and so forth.
[35:50] And so this property, it does meet that minimum requirement, it actually still exceeds it, to do three units.
[36:01] Thank you, Jason.
[36:03] Commissioner?
[36:04] Questions?
[36:06] Staff?
[36:07] Applicant?
[36:09] The question I have is, are there similar type of dwellings and
[36:14] that disability will help you and may know the end of the work.
[36:18] I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I need to live in Parkview. Parkway.
[36:26] So there is a property to the south of it that does have multi-family residential.
[36:33] I'm not sure if you're able to see it on the right-hand side right behind it.
[36:38] At the corner on the western side, we'll see three single-family residential units.
[36:45] So there are properties around that do have multi-family and then there's also other ones that just have a single-family residential.
[36:55] We're making a decision on projects like this. Is that taken to consideration that existing density by similar projects?
[37:03] So as Jason stated before, we look at the front page, per our zoning, and then based on the
[37:10] front page, we look at our zoning code because different words have different density requirements
[37:15] in our code, and then we did a calculation to determine the number of units that are permitted,
[37:22] perfect density. Okay. I know a question, so there was comment in regard to this project,
[37:31] whether any, is there any, any of the community testimony that came in, will you guys
[37:38] to this project?
[37:39] I haven't mentioned any, this is the first one I hear of.
[37:46] Anybody else in the audience want to speak on the side
[37:50] of them?
[37:53] If we need a motion to call the public hearing.
[37:55] Please sign in.
[37:56] Oh, motion to close the public hearing.
[37:59] Motion by Commissioner Thomas Shiro, second by Commissioner Gonzalez, comfortable.
[38:03] Hi.
[38:04] Hi.
[38:05] And I can myself prefer the curing is closed on this item, a question of discussion, or any changes we want to make for this,
[38:15] or either interchange the notion as well.
[38:18] Yeah, I'm more forward to approving it.
[38:21] Second.
[38:22] A motion by Commissioner Thomas Sheryl, second by Commissioner Gonzalez for approval of the item.
[38:27] For a resolution of the 365, I've got for the vote, Commissioner Gonzalez.
[38:31] to Michelle. Hi, and I think myself as well, proved 30.
[38:38] We want to item number 8.2,
[38:41] commission on this point number 15-22.
[39:29] Good evening, planning commissioners. Item 8.2 is
[39:34] a CUP request for 11828 rents sheet.
[39:40] The applicant signed the Ebola Valley Water Company is
[39:43] The questioner approval of CUP 1522 to remove 1,390 square feet of landscaping in order
[39:51] to construct a 3,294 square foot PFAS treatment system within an existing water facility.
[40:01] The subject site at 1.07 acres in size is located at the southeast corner of Ranchido Street and Lama Dera Avenue.
[40:10] The site is designated as low density residential and zone R1B and is surrounded by the same zoning and land use designations.
[40:21] As you can see in the area photo to the right, there are currently four wells and two water storage tanks developed on the property.
[40:29] In
[40:33] 2017, the Planning Commission approved and the Planning Commission approved a CEP 10-13 and modification number
[40:46] 2-17 and 3-17 on the site.
[40:51] The scope of working included an in-kind replacement of a 62-year-old 0.29 million gallon reservoir,
[40:58] which was 55 feet in diameter and 25 feet in height and 0.7 million gallon reservoir, which was 90 feet in diameter and 25 feet in height.
[41:11] Free wild buildings, a five-foot high landscape burn,
[41:15] street improvements, which included the construction of a five-foot right sidewalk and roadway repairs,
[41:22] and a perimeter fence, and walls, and landscape communication.
[41:28] Just for also additional background, the planning commission did approve
[41:32] identical PFAS treatment systems and other water utility sites.
[41:37] One of them was at 4, 9, 21, 7, I need to avenue, which was approved on June 30, 2020.
[41:44] The other was located at 1, 2, 4, 1, 9 and 1, 2, 4, 2, 9, valley boulevard, which was approved on February 21, 2021.
[41:58] PFS, they're known as a harmful set of chemicals, commonly known as forever chemicals.
[42:08] The most common are PFOA's and PFOS.
[42:13] Testing at the site indicated that PFOA and PFOS levels were detected in 2019.
[42:20] The laws are tested monthly.
[42:22] Two of those are in operation. Two of the four walls are currently in operation. The state water resources division of drinking water issued requirement for the installation of the PFAS treatment before all wells can be in production.
[42:39] In
[42:43] this slide, you can see the view from the site from Manchille Street, and then on the bottom illustration is the view from Momadera Avenue.
[42:57] As you can see, the reservoirs are painted with a landscape mural, and also screened from view with landscaping burn and trees.
[43:10] On this side plan, it shows the area that's in patched and red, the 1,292 square foot of landscaping
[43:21] that will be removed
[43:25] and in its place, at 3,294 square foot PFAS treatment facility
[43:32] is shown outlined in the red.
[43:39] Specifically the treatment of the PFAS treatment equipment
[43:43] consists of six ion exchange vessels, one GAC vessel at approximately 16 feet for inches and
[43:52] height, a long-range CO3.
[43:54] In total, these vessels will run a linear length of 123 feet a long-range CO3, and I set
[44:01] back approximately 12 feet.
[44:03] One rinse tank with 37,000 gallon capacity is about 20 feet in area, 20 square feet in
[44:16] area, and 16 feet in height, and is visible most on Lama-Dara Avenue with a setback of
[44:22] 20 feet from Lama-Dara Avenue and 25 feet from Rantido Street.
[44:32] Under CEP-10-13, a mitigated declaration was adopted by the city.
[44:40] This document was reviewed by Tom Dodson Associates for compliance.
[44:47] To ensure that the proposed project is consistent with the previously adopted M&D
[44:51] and does not require any mitigation measures.
[44:54] Such a categorical exemption name was prepared by Tom Dodson Associates.
[45:00] Confirming that the proposed project has been determined to comply with the categorical exemption categories, under section 15301, which is a class 1 for existing facilities and 15303 for a more construction of small structures.
[45:20] So, conditions of the people that will be applicable to the project are that the new
[45:26] resource will understand what we think is required to be painted in the same landscape.
[45:32] You know, design with the vegetation as motif to not sure if this thing was a word
[45:37] tanks, prior to final planning inspection, the design shall be reviewed and approved by the
[45:43] planning division prior to painting.
[45:46] In addition, a condition of approval states should the PFAS pre-ment facilities cease operations in the future, the applicant would be responsible for removing all the equipment at restoring the area to the live landscaping as previously approved under CUP number 10-13.
[46:07] So, staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the Category Code exemptions, 1-5301 and 1-5303,
[46:17] make the finding of facts articulated in the Resolution and approved conditional use permit number 15-22, subject to conditions of approval.
[46:28] So I conclude my presentation and we have the applicant in the audience and this
[46:33] SQL consultant is also on the line.
[46:37] Thank you.
[46:39] Commissioners, all those questions for staff.
[46:43] What was the level of outreach that was conducted in this neighborhood?
[46:48] And I asked that because I mean this is a significant change in the landscape being.
[46:56] And so I'd be interested to know what type of outreach any comments from community members.
[47:04] Because this is pretty big.
[47:06] It's definitely going to change the view of an overhead.
[47:10] Great question.
[47:12] From the staff level, we only sent out the public hearing notices.
[47:16] Now it's a third to the applicant if they did any outreach on their end.
[47:23] Just to provide some background when this was originally approved back in 2017, we did do extensive community outreach meetings.
[47:32] We held community outreach meetings at City Hall as well to address the residents concerns, which is the results of the
[47:41] the well being painted with the landscaping motifs just to show so that we wouldn't in more with the environment.
[47:47] So we did, and we also addressed noise concerns, vibrations, as well, for anticipation of the construction.
[47:55] So we did do a lot of the public outreach up front for this project.
[48:01] And in this case, the public outreach was done by the applicant.
[48:07] We can check with the applicant to see if they did any outreach when planning this project.
[48:16] kind of following up on Commissioner Raphatt's question, is where is the feedback back in 2017
[48:23] from the public? Since I was in here around the time, you guys recall, was it like a positive feedback,
[48:29] how did the community feel about the construction that getting done back in this?
[48:39] When we sat at the outreach for the original project, it was done in combination with the environmental
[48:45] document. So when the environmental document was being circulated with the community meeting,
[48:50] The main comments that we got were really people from the south of the property and I even went
[48:58] on one of the properties directly south of this because they were concerned about how views of the tanks and
[49:08] that type of stuff.
[49:10] What was more about that and then also about construction impacts.
[49:15] previously there were two vacant houses on the west side half of this property so there
[49:23] wasn't, you know, sort of like the house has been a remote yet anything so it was
[49:29] more published to the south and that on that step there's time back.
[49:37] Thank you, Casey. No big questions for me.
[49:43] And I think I'll have a question for the applicant in a
[49:48] bit, but me don't ask. I'll ask staff. A separate question. So if we understand correctly,
[49:55] there's going to be no, um, it's going to be, uh, it's going to be, uh, it's going to be
[50:00] No greenery, during place, what's getting removed, right? There was, there was a considered of maybe, I mean, if we could go back to, to ask you the,
[50:13] the, we didn't take, we didn't take, it's going to take out the, the trees and the five foot lamb.
[50:20] I'm assuming because of the nature of the equipment, there's no possibility of replacing some of those trees back along the street on I guess I think that was a second be the elevation from Ranchito, okay, yeah from Ranchito then.
[50:36] Yes, there will be replacement trees to the place that was last.
[50:46] So if we're looking at that right there, it was getting removed now, it was along the top, right?
[50:51] Where the red squares at, where the red rectangle.
[50:54] So that's getting removed.
[50:56] Yes, to the corner.
[50:57] One, two, three, four, five are being removed here.
[51:00] And then we have one, two, three, four, five, six.
[51:08] So trees right here are existing.
[51:10] Okay.
[51:11] So they would serve to, so those trees will stay correct.
[51:15] Yes.
[51:16] Okay, so those trees will stay and it will be the trees closer to the corner, are getting removed
[51:22] along the top.
[51:25] Closer to the corner, correct.
[51:28] And you said they're going to be replaced and they're going to be put where.
[51:31] There's three new replacement trees, I don't know if you can see right here, one, two, three.
[51:38] On the other side.
[51:40] Yeah. So there's going to be a section that's not going to be screened from view then.
[51:46] There's also three new trees right here, one, two, three.
[51:49] Oh, there's three more up there as well.
[51:52] In addition to the existing.
[51:55] So there will continue to be some type. What basically getting removed then is the five foot high
[52:01] the burn and the trees that were removed in the footprint of where this system is going and then they'll be
[52:12] replaced closer to the ranchero side, and then also on the other side, which is kilometer Avenue.
[52:21] And if we go back to the street view of that street on top, so there's shrubbly on the outer
[52:31] side. It looks like correct. On the other side of the block wall. Yes. Yes. Yes.
[52:37] A little back wall. And then your shrubbery. And then on the back side of that, there'll
[52:41] be trees. Correct. Yes. Just basically what was what basically ends up getting removed is
[52:46] just the five foot high ground. There's going to be trees back. Yes. Yes. Yes. It just
[52:51] won't be the two layers of trees that they're currently. Yes. Because it looks like there's
[52:54] two layers. It's like three and there's three. Correct. And instead of just three here and
[52:59] here. Exactly. Got it. If I could also add, because when the burn was originally proposed,
[53:07] the burn wasn't to screen anything in the basalt that was just to allow the trees that were
[53:12] plastered to be planted at a higher level. Yeah. I remember this one from when it was first brought
[53:19] up. Yeah. The trees are getting replaced. What size are the new trees going to be? 36 inch box trees.
[53:28] Okay, so how tall are those?
[53:31] And I'm going to be like a little, no, I'm not going to be a little shrug, but it's a
[53:34] lot of stuff to get people around you.
[53:37] The height, do you know the height?
[53:46] Okay.
[53:47] All right.
[53:48] Yeah.
[53:48] Thank you.
[53:49] Any further questions for staff?
[53:51] No, for me.
[53:52] No, for me.
[53:53] All right.
[53:53] Applicant.
[53:59] Thank you.
[53:59] I'm getting a zoom.
[54:01] Two.
[54:02] Two.
[54:05] Two.
[54:06] I'm going to be a question tonight and let's say you didn't go into any of this, let's
[54:12] try number one, where we're building this treatment system. I just want to take a moment
[54:20] to thank Ms. Lee for going over the previous approval that we had for the site. I'm planning
[54:30] manager now, by the way, and I look for a single valid water company, just for information
[54:34] And when it was Chris Olsen, at the time of the first approval, I was chief engineer.
[54:42] And I worked with time-bots whom to analyze our mitigated negative declaration.
[54:50] That in about years of work and working with our neighbor and our neighbors to help understand
[55:00] What they could work concerns they might have about a new facility to provide drinking water to them and their members.
[55:11] And I say to design facilities and build them so that they minimised and mitigated that any concern that they would have.
[55:23] And we did so by holding different menus with them, about the way we were prepared.
[55:32] For this project, which is the true mid-system.
[55:38] We build a design which we believe addresses concerns they have, and I can go with that in detail.
[55:49] I also just like to say that around the perimeter of the site where we're going to build the treatment system,
[55:58] we are leaving a portion of the landscape room, but we are also, as we said, we are replacing the trees that we're removing.
[56:09] I noticed in the start of the report that says we're replacing five trees that we're removing with six trees.
[56:17] Actually, we're going to replace them at a two-to-one ratio, they are not protected trees but we're going to go home and the place by trees with 10.
[56:29] And I can show you where that is on the plan that we submitted.
[56:40] There's six trees around the work and around the corner of where that larger circle is.
[56:47] with a windstank is and then there's we're going to add four in the light down on the
[56:52] llama bearer side. So they're inside the berm there but they have further screened the
[57:00] property.
[57:03] I don't know what I think everyone has heard about. It's definitely become no
[57:09] common to hear about the constraints for pinfoss in our environment and particularly for us
[57:18] drinking water. So we don't, we don't have peatots in a drinking water. So you guys had
[57:25] to respond to notice from the division of drinking water and this notice was issued in
[57:34] 2019 in a little of our construction project and after the previous project was already approved.
[57:41] This latest report is to sample our drinking water levels for PFAS, and PFAS is, as a public
[57:51] spray spray, and how many clear alcohol substances, they're forever chemicals, that
[57:59] means that they take a really, really long time to break down, and I essentially go, um,
[58:06] a lot of time.
[58:09] And I've been familiar with these now. The most common, common,
[58:13] 2000 years, but I'm deaf one. And it was present in my household when I was a kid. And
[58:22] I'm president many, many other households growing up because it really helped keep your eggs off
[58:28] to find pan.
[58:31] It's also used to cope with food wrappers, but people accept to be able to
[58:38] such as a pizza, or thighs, or a hamburger.
[58:46] The kelp one is the first state to ban for other chemicals.
[58:51] And they have banned use of these potos chemicals
[58:56] in fast food and any food application
[58:59] as of the first of this year, 2023.
[59:03] They want to ban it in a clothing and a pair
[59:12] by the first of 20.5.
[59:16] And they're finally going to ban it on exterior waterproof clothing in 20.8.
[59:22] However, the new jewelry has already, that's the environment of protection that you see in 2019.
[59:27] It's the value issue that they're going to, sort of, maximum contaminant level for the real types of jewelry.
[59:33] for these two chemicals in drinking water, that means that these sources with
[59:39] molten products per million will have to be shut down. We'll not do all the
[59:45] provide drinking water or any kind of water to less than in the city of
[59:49] Madrid.
[59:52] Already these wells have elevated levels of PFOS. We're only able to use them.
[1:00:00] And because we have one corner source on site, which is producing the latter with less than the current notification level for California.
[1:00:11] So it's really hard to understand how vast each region is, and I just want to let you know that I've very excited that it's like a drop of water in an Olympic-sized swimming pool.
[1:00:24] We're a dollar of all the dollar, but I was circulating in the United States.
[1:00:31] That's how small it is, but it doesn't matter how small it is, you know, this is
[1:00:39] dangerous, because it's known to cause cancer.
[1:00:42] Anyway, we have this very good documentary, and that's what it's called, the devil, the
[1:00:52] this particular kind of code that you'll take a look at that. I was
[1:00:58] going to be being it.
[1:01:06] This ion exchange system that we're proposing to pay here is the best
[1:01:10] available technology to remove the cross-front water,
[1:01:14] but use it well.
[1:01:18] It is silent when it operates
[1:01:22] And there's absolutely no noise generated by this.
[1:01:26] The only one concern for my neighbors is noise.
[1:01:30] At the time we had neighbors who had very young children,
[1:01:34] and very concerned about construction noise,
[1:01:37] and about the operation that we had,
[1:01:40] when we were building the biggest facility,
[1:01:44] which included a lot of production wealth.
[1:01:46] Now, this is not a lot of production wealth.
[1:01:48] A lot of production, well, required that we draw essentially 24 hours a day for many
[1:01:56] days.
[1:01:57] So we're causing a good result.
[1:02:00] In order to mitigate bad results, we collected a sound lab, so that we minimize the noise.
[1:02:08] We collected noise measurements at the parameters of our site, and I believe that we're
[1:02:17] So we're still concerned about noise.
[1:02:22] Then we build, we're constructing regular working hours,
[1:02:28] seven to four, whatever the city permits us to construct.
[1:02:34] And we have staff on site both to our construction to address any concerns we hear from our neighbors.
[1:02:45] Since the announcement, we have not paid anything for my neighbors, and for two years since we completed the previous project, we will not have any complaints about the operational authority.
[1:02:59] If I'm mistaken, can we keep the comments here?
[1:03:07] That's not, I don't know, and I'm just looking at it.
[1:03:09] And I'm selecting in to keep your comments here.
[1:03:12] Don't just members of the audience.
[1:03:14] Okay, thank you both.
[1:03:15] Thank you.
[1:03:17] I apologize.
[1:03:19] But I do want to address concerns of our neighbors.
[1:03:23] And I know there's, I mean, all people in the city of Amate.
[1:03:26] So,
[1:03:32] I am concerned about the budget allows us to distribute clean and safe drinking water
[1:03:41] to residents in the city of Amate, and that the result and the safe operation of the
[1:03:48] facility.
[1:03:56] I think I have addressed all of my comments.
[1:03:59] Thank you.
[1:03:59] Thank you.
[1:04:00] Thank you.
[1:04:00] Thank you.
[1:04:04] describe the community outreach that was conducted, how did you engage the residents,
[1:04:12] the
[1:04:12] relationship that you have with residents, you know, how that is being mitigated
[1:04:19] for this
[1:04:20] particular application that we did with the city, for this particular application.
[1:04:25] Well we worked with the city and we complied with all the California Environmental Quality Act
[1:04:31] requirements which, you know, requires to comply with different activities and studies related
[1:04:39] to a project, like a drinking water treatment system, and how about was issuing a notice
[1:04:49] to all of our neighbors, within a, believe it was a 500 foot radius, or 600 foot radius, so
[1:04:57] Everyone was in front by mail.
[1:05:00] But we were doing this project. Other than mail, was there any proactive approaches to the community outreach? I mean, knowing that you've been there for a while, there's a relationship with residents. I just kind of want to dig a little deeper into that.
[1:05:17] Okay, thank you. While we just relied on our distribution and thought we would hear from people if they had a concern about it.
[1:05:28] And no one responded to the notice was that you nailed out.
[1:05:34] I did not hear any response.
[1:05:37] Staff didn't get any comments.
[1:05:41] As a result of the notice.
[1:05:43] Okay.
[1:05:45] All righty.
[1:05:45] Thank you.
[1:05:48] Thank you.
[1:05:49] Thank you.
[1:05:50] For my understanding, currently we have two else,
[1:05:53] currently working on operation.
[1:05:56] Yes, we have two wells in operation at any given time, and we have three wells that are able to operate,
[1:06:05] but because two of them are extensively, I have other than others that keep passing them.
[1:06:13] We have only one clean well, we're able to blend two wells together.
[1:06:18] that result in a blend of water that has kept us the essentially need-striking water
[1:06:27] requirements.
[1:06:28] Okay, and then by doing this installation, this is going to allow all four-wears or what
[1:06:33] is a five-wears that we have on site, four-wears, four-wears, so this will allow all four-wears
[1:06:37] to operate.
[1:06:40] Okay, and just to kind of clarify, I see that on the gosh to the construction worker
[1:06:47] or anybody working, are they going to be allowed to park on the street or are they going
[1:06:53] to be parking inside the property for construction?
[1:06:58] We have 20 of them on site for parking, so it's a good instruction.
[1:07:03] We're not, you know, disrupt or gain a row of any other neighborhood residents in any way.
[1:07:16] This is, that's it for me.
[1:07:17] Thank you.
[1:07:22] The cleaning technology that that's whatever. I don't have the technical name. Sorry
[1:07:29] You say there's low noise. How much low noise are we talking to here? It's like that
[1:07:35] I mean, not something that I figure is going to be cleaning is not going to be exactly noise less
[1:07:41] There's going to be something is there like a bells? Is there a beeping or anything at all like
[1:07:48] If I'm standing on the sidewalk or if I'm living in the house next door, am I gonna detect an audible hum coming from the facility or anything like that?
[1:08:00] No, these ion exchange systems don't have any noise. There's no additional pumps that are needed to operate this treatment system.
[1:08:10] we don't create any noise from it. If you were, if the system were operating and you
[1:08:17] will nearby and you place your hand on the pipe, it would be cold and you might feel some
[1:08:26] vibration. But the noise is zero.
[1:08:33] Okay, thank you. That was my question. Thanks, sir.
[1:08:38] Any other members of the audience want to speak on this item? Please come
[1:08:42] forward sectioning mattress at the podium for the record.
[1:08:50] Good evening commissioners.
[1:08:52] Thank you. You shouldn't get the microphone back really close because that's one of
[1:08:55] the rules. Okay, that they can there you go. All right. My name is Mark Morido. I made one of
[1:09:00] the south side of the of this property at 4618, 4620 Lama. There I have a new. We bought the
[1:09:09] property back in 1998 and since then, the water company has done three projects. What would
[1:09:15] I mean, you know, well, since 1998, in 1998, I believe they constructed two wells and the construction was, you know, really, really, really know the wells was 24, 7, for like 15 days, nonstop.
[1:09:36] We're using a dark camera that will remember the actual name of it, but it's just something that just keeps on hitting the still pipes are going through the ground.
[1:09:46] So we're only working yet.
[1:09:48] We have three minutes.
[1:09:51] So I was suggesting that if I was suggesting you get straight to the point of what you're doing.
[1:09:56] So I have a lot to say.
[1:09:57] And three minutes I don't think it's going to cover at number one.
[1:10:00] There was zero outreach. I never got anything. All I got was the letter for this meeting. That's it. There was no community outreach. There was no letters. There was nothing.
[1:10:10] Okay. I'm looking at the documents that I saw on the website and they're saying, okay, what they're proposing is it's compatible with the existing conditions with the neighborhoods. And it's not. This is a quite residential area. This place has the site and what they're having.
[1:10:29] and it doesn't fit, doesn't conform to the neighborhood.
[1:10:34] So if you run into the side, please go and look at it.
[1:10:37] Yeah, it looks nice because they have the trees.
[1:10:40] They have good landscape.
[1:10:41] They painted the tanks, but these are huge tanks.
[1:10:44] And they're nice for.
[1:10:46] And I share them every day.
[1:10:48] I even have a beautiful view of the mountains.
[1:10:50] I don't have any more.
[1:10:53] We invested back in 2010, we invested over 800,000
[1:10:57] in one of the warehouse, okay?
[1:11:02] The other thing in the conditional permit back in 2018
[1:11:04] before they did the a massive expansion that they did.
[1:11:08] Ladies and gentlemen, it's just again,
[1:11:10] it's still on topic.
[1:11:11] We can't discuss previous items,
[1:11:13] we can discuss the five before.
[1:11:14] We can submit the the old conditional permit
[1:11:17] into this petition, okay?
[1:11:21] And they violated some of the terms.
[1:11:23] Number one, they promised that they were gonna pay
[1:11:25] damages to accessing adjacent properties, okay? All house, the outside, the start of the
[1:11:31] crack, the inside, the we have poverty flowing, it all cracked, we have several copper pipes
[1:11:39] at both because of all the improvements that were continuous when they were compacting the soil,
[1:11:46] we're talking about having machinery. This is not, you know, when they come in and do construction
[1:11:51] on the site, it's industrial.
[1:11:53] This is not residential.
[1:11:55] They didn't have a machinery, okay?
[1:11:58] And then I take, they built a buffer wall
[1:12:01] and they take all the steps, I need to take
[1:12:03] but spill, it's, it's, you know, they're doing this
[1:12:07] with adjacent homes next next door.
[1:12:10] Our windows is wide-necks through the site.
[1:12:13] And they can claim that this doesn't make noise
[1:12:15] and listen to that, we have a pump, a road pump
[1:12:20] that's sucking water and we hear the noise and they did how the world pump and it
[1:12:25] helped but we still hear it. The room is next to it. You know, you guys can study it.
[1:12:31] You can hear what they have to say. Come come to my house and I'll show you. No more
[1:12:37] but it's listening to what we have to say. We're the ones that are impacted.
[1:12:44] Okay?
[1:12:47] I said the project was done. Just like they told us, you know, I said the project
[1:12:50] What happens if you sustain the images coming and we're going to take care of it?
[1:12:56] We went, they told us, we don't take care of that.
[1:12:59] We have some other adjustments that we'll do that.
[1:13:02] Go through them, they're going to help you go after the contracts,
[1:13:07] because at the end of the day, the contracts is responsible for any damages.
[1:13:11] They came, they visited our house twice, they took pictures, they documented.
[1:13:15] we, they told us to write reports to send them pictures over and over again the same story.
[1:13:23] Nothing. We got tired of it.
[1:13:27] You know, the guys are in Colorado, they would say there were hardly any of the trainers.
[1:13:33] And all of it, they're coming back with this, it's amazing.
[1:13:37] You know, I told them from day one, you know, they claim that they were there 15 years ago.
[1:13:42] But it's all tank and what the expansion that they did is it didn't fit the real tank.
[1:13:50] Your time has expired.
[1:13:53] We can.
[1:14:01] She's three minutes.
[1:14:05] So to me they're violating the old condition of permit because they didn't take care of the damage
[1:14:11] like they promised.
[1:14:12] They promised the security system and lighting.
[1:14:16] They had an damsel.
[1:14:19] You know, the inside of the site, people do go in and carry on with some work, but the outside
[1:14:25] will have complaints.
[1:14:26] The landscape being, it's not taking care of, there's a lot of .poo, it doesn't get clean, the
[1:14:33] landscape is dying outside, so I think it's something that they have to have someone
[1:14:39] on site on a regular basis, cleaning up the site on the outside.
[1:14:49] But most people, everyone's busy and busy, they oppose it.
[1:14:56] I can give you some signatures if you want, if that's going to help.
[1:15:00] But and I don't get in touch with my politicians and see who can help me, state senator or whoever, but, you know, this is, this is the third time I have to go, I'm going to go through this.
[1:15:12] And every time they promise, they promise you things, they make it seem like it's no problem, everything seems easy, no knowledge, this and that and there's always problems.
[1:15:23] And they do respond, you know, I can say that they don't respond to your complaints, they do what they can.
[1:15:32] Like when they were doing the compaction, we told them, you know, this is going on and it's shaking the house, it's shaking.
[1:15:37] My kids are, I believe at the time they were out of school, but they were in the house.
[1:15:42] And it's shaking the claims keep falling off, we call them, they come in and say, you know, we really can stop them, you know, this is an ongoing contract.
[1:15:51] You know, they do things on their hands, you know, we can stop the work right now, but just just
[1:15:57] they with us and and again we take over you if there's any damages.
[1:16:01] Well, it's been three years, four years maybe, since the project got completed.
[1:16:07] And I just got tired, then with the adjusters, nothing,
[1:16:13] you know, so they're in violation of the
[1:16:16] OCP because they didn't comply with what they promised.
[1:16:20] And when I throw them one to go somewhere else and build this, because we did some research.
[1:16:25] There's no...
[1:16:27] These types of tanks are not...
[1:16:30] And we're in finding the site where it was actually inside of a residential area.
[1:16:34] There are always like commercial streets, like San Anita has one,
[1:16:38] a valuable work, by the freeway, six or five.
[1:16:41] You know, there's plenty of areas where they can build this thing,
[1:16:44] without bothering the local residents.
[1:16:48] So, you know, I'm, like I said, I can get, you know, one of my signatures from, from other
[1:16:57] neighbors that are, I, again said, talking, get you that for you.
[1:17:02] That's, that's basically it.
[1:17:03] I hope you guys take my comments, you know, it's very easy to write reports and if you guys
[1:17:09] don't visit the site and don't talk to the people, I mean, come on, yeah, do better than
[1:17:13] that.
[1:17:14] What do you work for us?
[1:17:17] So maybe we'll just comment it, it blends in to the existing.
[1:17:20] And by the way, I did take a, you know, a place that I was done on the property,
[1:17:26] they call out the site as an I saw and they took the batches because of it.
[1:17:32] And that was before they did the expansion.
[1:17:34] So you come to the expert.
[1:17:36] All right.
[1:17:37] Anybody else in the audience want to speak on this item?
[1:17:41] And I see where the hand raised on the zoom?
[1:17:43] Yes, I believe that is the SQL consultant number in 15 and 570 please unmute yourself.
[1:18:13] Can people hear me?
[1:18:16] Yes.
[1:18:22] Just a little bit of a complicated situation.
[1:18:25] But let me give you a little background.
[1:18:29] During the period of time that all the construction was going on.
[1:18:34] But as a new facility that have been installed previously, it doesn't mind previously, in
[1:18:42] confondence with the previous condition used for met, we monitored the noise levels literally
[1:18:50] for a year and a half.
[1:18:53] During that period of time, our commitment was to keep noise levels below 65 decibels during
[1:18:59] the day.
[1:19:00] because of the adjacent residences,
[1:19:05] we're able to
[1:19:09] propose that only once during that whole period of time was that threshold exceeded.
[1:19:17] And it was having to do with some adjuice and what I would call noise that was related to moving the materials rather than constructing the site.
[1:19:30] We made an effort and I got a year and a half worth of data to document and verify what
[1:19:37] we did when this is being done.
[1:19:41] I believe in this as soon as this is not up in and as your secret consultant this is
[1:19:47] giving us a pretty much fast and on the project but the issue here is not what happened
[1:19:53] before and that's that you're getting comments on this evening.
[1:19:58] You're looking at a new system.
[1:20:00] Security. It is a water treatment facility so that we can make water drinkable. The facility has been in place for a long time. Well, before the residents were constructed,
[1:20:16] and there are the re-singered with allies made an extraordinary attempt to respond to most of the complaints that have been submitted previously.
[1:20:27] But right now, you're being asked to consider, if we install a new waste water, I'm not
[1:20:34] waste water, I'm going to use the water treatment facility.
[1:20:38] It is a passive unit, it is not an active unit, I don't have to pump water into it, but
[1:20:44] water is delivered to the site, based by the water that is pumped up from the ground.
[1:20:50] If there's a unit itself, this pathic doesn't generate much noise at all, in fact, given
[1:20:56] background noise related to what's already happening at the side, you wouldn't be able to hear it.
[1:21:02] Unless everything else was shut off and you could hear it go, and then it would just be like,
[1:21:06] listen to the water flow in the screen chat.
[1:21:11] Like that, I'll have some fun of you as to
[1:21:14] re-prove this treatment unit, which is going to be required to make that lot of available to the public,
[1:21:22] is designed to minimize the impacts from noise, but it's also designed to replace landscaping
[1:21:30] And then following is designed in a manner that will not exceed the height of the existing
[1:21:36] structures on the side.
[1:21:38] We've got to follow from a single stand call.
[1:21:42] I'll try to clarify the time limit does not apply to our consultants.
[1:21:45] I'll continue to ask again.
[1:21:49] So in conclusion, this site and this particular facility met with use of the categorical
[1:21:57] assumption for SQL compliance and then you made it on the basis of will it have will
[1:22:04] have the respect on the environment then already existed the site and in my judgment based
[1:22:10] on my evaluation the answer is now.
[1:22:14] I'm available now to any questions you may have and I'll stand on until you guys finish.
[1:22:20] Thank you, Mr. Dawson.
[1:22:22] Here's your questions for a local consultant.
[1:22:26] Dr. Shenzang.
[1:22:32] I don't think we're minimizing the value of this project.
[1:22:36] I think we all want clean water.
[1:22:39] We want to make sure that these forever chemicals
[1:22:43] are mitigated as much as possible.
[1:22:46] And you're right, but we're talking about
[1:22:48] is the project that is at the table right now,
[1:22:51] not what happened in the past.
[1:22:52] But it is important to recognize that there is a relationship here.
[1:22:56] There are some test issues between the agency and at least some of the neighbors.
[1:23:06] So I do recognize that.
[1:23:12] So in regards to this project and how it moves forward with the community,
[1:23:19] What are some of the strategies that you employing or that you will employ to make sure that the community is, you know, is kept abreast, you know, that there are issues are being addressed.
[1:23:36] So yes, so in terms of moving forward, how do you see that relationship proceeding?
[1:23:45] Mr. Dodson.
[1:23:47] Yeah, I appreciate that.
[1:23:48] How would you feel for the applicant?
[1:23:51] Yeah.
[1:23:51] I was going to say, yes, so when I'm mindset, I think the secret side is, this project
[1:23:59] will not cause any adverse effects on the environment or the community.
[1:24:05] But you're saying it's how to address the concerns of the community, one individual, by
[1:24:09] the way, from the community is expressed, and I'm going to be filled out and depressed because
[1:24:14] that's my answer. Okay. I don't know if we have to open it up again for the applicant.
[1:24:21] I'm going to close by the carry on to see it. Okay. Good. So my question is for the applicant.
[1:24:32] Okay. Well, there are many, many conditions that we're complying with on this project.
[1:24:41] One that was brought up earlier is that we are replacing landscape that we're removing
[1:24:49] And we are doubling it essentially by replacing 5 trees with 10.
[1:25:00] We are going out of our way to make sure that those vessels which, on black and white people, look like large tanks, they can see that, you know, people that look like a nice one.
[1:25:14] But I'm hearing from a lot of people that the Trump law that we painted on our new tanks that were replacing the old ones that were, that needed better antists.
[1:25:29] You can add that a little bit.
[1:25:32] Thank you.
[1:25:36] So, for those things that have the mirror, and that are from my understanding is huge
[1:25:45] and pigment over what was there before, which is basically a pair, white, thick.
[1:25:52] And,
[1:25:58] you compile with either conditions that the parent condition has, and we open to you
[1:26:04] What, what, what, uh,
[1:26:06] condition, what other conditions?
[1:26:08] Other than that's what I wrote.
[1:26:11] Yes.
[1:26:12] In regards to enforcing those conditions,
[1:26:17] how does the city, how does the city handle that?
[1:26:19] I mean, when you monitor a situation like this to ensure
[1:26:23] that the points are being met.
[1:26:26] Before construction starts, we do a little
[1:26:28] pre-construction meeting to go all of the conditions
[1:26:32] and requirements with the contractor, and then we also post the site with a board that has a number
[1:26:39] of a contact number for the city site and also for the applicant site for any complaints.
[1:26:45] And then we have ongoing inspections as well. We make sure that they are compliant with the
[1:26:50] conditions of approval. But there's no community outreach or a pre-meeting with the immediate
[1:26:56] Residents.
[1:26:58] Around the.
[1:26:59] Not for this project.
[1:27:01] Typically for larger residential projects we do have that.
[1:27:05] We would be happy to have a pre-construction meeting, but we've now with our,
[1:27:11] we've not been technically willing to have necessary for construction purposes, but instead
[1:27:16] informative for our neighbors as to what was what the construction went through.
[1:27:23] how round it would occur, how we would ensure that we're compliant with all the city
[1:27:29] ordinances such as noise and baking hours, construction times, parking, and others.
[1:27:39] I mean I think something like that would be helpful, yeah, thank you.
[1:27:44] I have actually one question for you because before you stepped down, one question that I have
[1:27:50] now and some of the thing he was brought up is, I guess, security and I'm looking at the pictures
[1:27:58] of fences are pretty low, right? So how often are you guys noticing people jumping over the fence
[1:28:05] and going in there to do whatever they want? And do those have some type of security,
[1:28:10] do you have like surveillance cameras monitoring, the premises 247? What are you guys doing to prevent
[1:28:16] people from, you know, going inside the property, when they
[1:28:22] shouldn't.
[1:28:23] At point number one site, we don't have the reports of
[1:28:26] intruders that I'm allowed, but by the
[1:28:30] in order to monitor that, we do have alarms on all of our
[1:28:35] hatches and doors.
[1:28:37] So if we do experience an intrusion, we will know
[1:28:40] right away, and then we'll call this site, because it's in
[1:28:45] The residential neighborhood is one of our first priorities to install an access card reader so that we can control access to the site other than just having a padlock.
[1:28:56] And in addition to that, we will be able to install cameras at the site and
[1:29:06] I need to check to see if we already have cameras there and I don't remember.
[1:29:11] But that's something that we can put on and we have a plan for that.
[1:29:23] Other questions about the site is that you know the landscaping and we do have a maintenance
[1:29:31] department or talk to them after the meeting and make sure that there's no issues with landscaping.
[1:29:41] Okay, and then this will be the, I don't know if it's a question for you or Mr. Dawson, but it will
[1:29:45] to compare the noise that the pumps are currently making versus the filtration system.
[1:29:52] You basically saying that the new filtration system is going to get installed.
[1:29:56] It's going to make less noise than the pumps or absolutely need no noise.
[1:30:01] So, basically, we're not increasing any noise at all. That's right. Okay. We're not increasing the noise.
[1:30:09] Okay. And then just another quick question. And this is just maybe not too relevant to this.
[1:30:16] But what is the likelihood of either to find another site where we can provide it for the singular valley in the city of Monte.
[1:30:26] I want to add something to about the noise that you asked about and that is that this project can be built and there will be temporary noise associated with construction but it can be built during regular waking working hours.
[1:30:44] We got in bed and the site at the middle of the city, we cannot be bad.
[1:30:50] We have four wells on site and those wells need to be treated on site.
[1:30:59] The, you know,
[1:31:04] it just is not feasible to try to treat these wells somewhere far away.
[1:31:11] We're creating what's in West and the city we want to, it will be to find our locations to relocate everything, it's just not feasible either.
[1:31:21] It is not feasible from the standpoint of what is a cost effective investment for our waitpayers who reside in the city of Emonte
[1:31:31] and moving a treatment system at a site that we already have developed and where we already
[1:31:38] have girls is most cost-effective treatment for the system, the city of Almante water system.
[1:31:47] Thank you.
[1:31:49] The construction of these treatment vessels were already involved, some type of 24-7 construction
[1:31:57] process as they have already experienced.
[1:32:02] No, there's no 24-7, and there's no significant, you know, drilling the ball and ball drilling,
[1:32:13] you know, deep into the ground, I think it went down about 500 feet down, and that's why we're
[1:32:18] drilling 24-7. This construction is on an already weighted site, and there will be very minimal
[1:32:27] Who will work associated with this?
[1:32:31] Okay.
[1:32:32] So, what we have from your, from your leadership,
[1:32:38] it's a, they are stating that there are,
[1:32:41] there are conditions of the previous CUP that are not being,
[1:32:47] uh, upheld.
[1:32:50] And that is something that,
[1:32:52] Well, that is something that we can consider because now you're planning for another conditional
[1:33:01] use permit and your previous history as far as conditional use permits, like your history
[1:33:07] and that your ability to keep up with your previous conditions can tell us what your behaviors
[1:33:16] is going to be like in the future. Unfortunately, we don't have, we don't have a track like
[1:33:22] a showing us that this is what you have been doing. My suggestion to your neighbors would
[1:33:28] be to make sure when you're not satisfying your condition of approval that they let the
[1:33:33] city know so that those items can be tracked so that when we get something like this in front of
[1:33:39] we can't take that into consideration. There are several ways by which your neighbors can
[1:33:48] notify the city. The one thing that I'm using is the is the city's app because I use it myself
[1:33:55] and I report several businesses who aren't upholding their conditions who aren't following
[1:34:02] code and making sure that those items get addressed and that there is a paperwork process
[1:34:09] and there's a trail left behind. What are you going to do from this point
[1:34:14] forward to try to assure your neighbors that you will be fulfilling if you're
[1:34:20] approved today? Today, they will be fulfilling those conditions of approval and to
[1:34:25] try to fulfill your previous conditions of approval. We first have some pretty
[1:34:28] significant complaints and it seems like they're not getting taken care of. I was here
[1:34:36] When that, when we allowed that, when we put those big vats up, and I drive by once in a while, and I see it, and it looks nice for the 10, 15 seconds that I drive by it.
[1:34:52] I don't have to live next to it, so I don't know that, I don't have that experience unfortunately.
[1:35:08] I'm concerned that my fellow commissioners made the wrong decision that night. So if we continue to make wrong decision after wrong decision, we're going to continue to continue to perpetuate that.
[1:35:19] And if we make a better decision tonight, maybe our fellow neighbors within the city don't have to continue to experience that anymore.
[1:35:30] So, I wouldn't need to know where you're going to do to help make them whole from when we first approved that.
[1:35:42] Well, as soon as I get to you.
[1:35:44] Okay.
[1:35:44] Have you heard on this issue this is tough?
[1:35:47] This doesn't happen.
[1:35:47] I'm going to hear from the applicant first, and then I'll listen to what you have to say this doesn't.
[1:35:52] I appreciate it.
[1:35:53] Thank you very much.
[1:35:55] I want to follow up on concerns I heard tonight, for sure, and find out why our neighbors feel
[1:36:03] like they, some of their concerns were not addressed during construction. And the types of
[1:36:11] concerns are, you know, I don't, I'm not familiar with the details of those in particular,
[1:36:18] But during the construction project, we have a construction meeting with our neighbors, and we
[1:36:29] informed them of who is the point of contact to get these concerns heard, not just regarding
[1:36:37] construction, but regarding customer service, and I'm sure that our neighbors were informed
[1:36:43] during that last project of who to call and who to talk to.
[1:36:47] And it sounds like they did.
[1:36:50] The part where I'm not quite clear on is how that was dealt
[1:36:55] with and who spoke with them, and I'll find out.
[1:36:59] Yeah, because what it sounds like is that responsibility
[1:37:02] was just being passed off.
[1:37:06] And I want to help avoid that situation again.
[1:37:12] If you're standing here before telling us this, I will hope that you will say, I'm going to be that point of contact.
[1:37:20] Come to me and you don't have to go to somebody else.
[1:37:24] I think we've all had that experience with whatever companies and agencies we've had.
[1:37:31] We call somebody not my responsibility, go to the next person, go to the next person, go to the next person, go to the next person.
[1:37:36] you are intruding on these people's lives. You are intruding on this on this on neighborhoods
[1:37:43] residences. I would hope as much as I appreciate you adding double the amount of trees
[1:37:51] that you're taking out. I want to see that proactive approach to dealing with your neighbors.
[1:38:00] Who can speak to you? The trees can't talk to you. The trees can't tell you what they're
[1:38:04] But the neighbors can. The neighbors have been talking to you and for when it sounds like you've just turned a deaf ear to them
[1:38:11] So how can we be certain that you are going to all of a sudden change your ways from your last three or four years
[1:38:21] Of not listening to neighbors and now you're gonna listen to them
[1:38:26] What can you say right now
[1:38:29] That will make the three of us believe that, whereas the past four years you haven't.
[1:38:39] I am happy to be a point of contact for our neighbors.
[1:38:44] I met all of our neighbors doing the outreach events that we had in the past.
[1:38:50] And I provided my car. I never heard from them directly.
[1:38:54] Well, we have zero. We have a number of people. Obviously the number of people didn't work.
[1:39:06] You can have a number of people. If they all just turn them down and pass the buck and continue to refuse to take responsibility, somebody needs to step up and say, I messed up.
[1:39:21] We messed up and I will take responsibility of it from here going forward. Are you able to say those words?
[1:39:30] I am able to say I'm responsible and I will talk to our neighbors after this event and find out more details.
[1:39:37] But I really, you know, haven't heard anything that helps me really understand what happened.
[1:39:43] It sounds, if I were living in a home and I had to deal with an insurance company in another state
[1:39:51] to try to resolve something in my backyard, that would be pretty uncomfortable.
[1:39:57] And I'm sure I would fight tooth and nail.
[1:40:00] Well, it was resolved. I'm going to, I want to be a plan to contact for all the neighbors here. And please, I mean, by all means, I've seen that a lot of places that produce a kind of noise within a residential area. And I think we've done it before with other locations. I know we have that water pump station, offer a fine view near the river where they had a similar
[1:40:29] jackhammering for a situation we have a nice thing and I think we have been put a sign up
[1:40:35] that said call us here at this number yes that's the sign that I was referring to okay
[1:40:41] is that one of the conditions for for this as well yes that will be required okay we have a sign like that
[1:40:49] I you know and I really wish we had the condition it since it was reference
[1:40:55] This is a little reference in this. I really wish we had the conditions of approval from what we did in 2017.
[1:41:01] Can you see which items?
[1:41:03] Yeah, it is in the agenda packet.
[1:41:08] Yes. Resolution 3470.
[1:41:10] I'm a slide over in week to machine rules.
[1:41:32] It's a attachment to of this agenda item.
[1:41:56] Should we get more suspect in?
[1:42:15] What should I say?
[1:42:16] What should I say when we add something we want to say?
[1:42:20] I think so, I'm not sure it was close to resolving things, but let me reiterate what I said before.
[1:42:29] And the problem here is I'm not sure that specific condition that the company may not have adhered to.
[1:42:40] But I can tell you that over a year's worth of construction, there was only one very
[1:42:48] minor violation of noise in the whole community.
[1:42:54] We've got hog data, monitors were set up, there was utilized, and we did not have noise
[1:43:05] violations of intruded into the community beyond what we'd already identified.
[1:43:10] And so I don't want to, I don't want to question your concerns about responding to a
[1:43:19] mover, but I'm not sure what condition the approval may have been violated.
[1:43:23] I know the noise condition for over a year was not violated.
[1:43:29] I've got hard data, supported.
[1:43:39] That's, thank you, sir.
[1:43:42] Unfortunately, no, yep. I understand, I understand, but unfortunately, no, that's what we have.
[1:43:50] Anybody else in the audience want to speak on this item or anybody on Zoom? Please raise your hand.
[1:44:01] I'm just for the record staff will follow up with the members of the community.
[1:44:09] If I may suggest, so the condition number 16 for the previous resolution regarding the damage and if it can be verified by the expert review that the
[1:44:21] what a company would correct or repair such damage, we can also include that in this condition as well for this current project.
[1:44:29] That would be appreciated. I mean, from what it's described, those things seem like it's going to have that sort of impact.
[1:44:38] But it doesn't, it doesn't hurt.
[1:44:40] And we are requiring a security plan as well.
[1:44:43] That would require a security plan in the previous one, and they didn't fulfill it either.
[1:44:47] We'll make sure that it is fulfilled this time.
[1:44:58] We could get a motion to close public.
[1:45:00] Motion TOP UP, Clause, probably hearing. Motion to motion, motion, time to share. Skiing back, motion
[1:45:05] to Gonzales call for roll, Gonzales, to share Aye and aye for myself, is all from the majority.
[1:45:13] Discussion,
[1:45:22] you know, the relationship, you know, that this city that the agency has with
[1:45:25] the community is too so critical. And that's what we're here.
[1:45:30] I mean to say that the concerns, because we're talking about this project.
[1:45:35] and we're not talking about the past,
[1:45:37] I mean, there's a direct correlation.
[1:45:39] I mean, these are these are trust issues.
[1:45:41] And so I just feel that that are city,
[1:45:45] that the agency can do a much better job
[1:45:48] in terms of monitoring, in terms of staying
[1:45:51] in a communication with the residents, with the schools.
[1:45:54] I mean, there's there's so much around there.
[1:45:56] And so I appreciate that we're gonna have
[1:45:59] some of these conditions highlighted in this project.
[1:46:06] But, you know, I really hope that, you know, that we'd be true to what we're saying here.
[1:46:16] I know that if I lived around here, I'd probably have some listening concerns.
[1:46:23] So, you know, as a reason why we got here, and I'm hoping that we're not able to repeat this history.
[1:46:33] I mean, the concerns for the residents obviously should always be a top priority, and we want to make sure that, you know, as members of this panel members of this commission, that we are the voice for the community.
[1:46:48] that's over here for. Now obviously the overall thing here is we need to look out for the
[1:46:57] Orbe in the entire city, which is you know at the rate the pumps are kind of going and
[1:47:02] based on what they were saying and what it was reading. It is something that is going to be required.
[1:47:07] It's not really imposing more, it's not going to be more damaging than what it already is.
[1:47:14] So, I do feel like, you know, it is a difficult decision to make, but obviously, we want
[1:47:23] to make sure we're looking out for the best interest of the entire city,
[1:47:29] that's all for
[1:47:30] me.
[1:47:33] I would like to invite you to approve a provision of approval number 15-22.
[1:47:47] I'm sorry.
[1:47:48] Can we confirm what the added conditions are? Can you summarize those to make sure they're part of the motion?
[1:47:54] Yes, we'll add the condition previously regarding the damage.
[1:47:58] And then did you want other of the applicant offered, but did you want to make it a condition for the pre construction meeting with the residents?
[1:48:04] Yes.
[1:48:05] Okay, one of that as well.
[1:48:06] Why don't we do a pre and post?
[1:48:12] And maybe,
[1:48:15] is, can we review this in a year?
[1:48:17] I don't, I won't, unfortunately,
[1:48:19] I won't be on this commission any longer in a year,
[1:48:23] but are, at least,
[1:48:24] my replacement can then review this in a year from now.
[1:48:29] Oh, I don't want to say,
[1:48:30] oh, a year of the operation?
[1:48:32] A review of the operation, a year,
[1:48:34] once a year after they've completed.
[1:48:37] And hopefully Thomas Schurung is still here so they can remember this.
[1:48:44] To be already have the condition where it can be brought up to the Planning Commission for a Revocation.
[1:48:51] I think that's the standard condition that we have.
[1:48:54] For a Revocation.
[1:48:57] Revocation is in the code, so any Revocation of code.
[1:49:01] Oh, it seemed to, well, I wasn't being that drastic, but.
[1:49:04] I need to talk about the stuff that we're at the commission of already.
[1:49:12] I would think the commission would like to hear about it.
[1:49:16] Because it sounds like there's some needs to be some type of accountability.
[1:49:25] There you go.
[1:49:26] That's what I'll search for.
[1:49:28] There needs to be some sort of accountability.
[1:49:30] I hate to say that we have proved something in 2017 and never thought of it again, but that's exactly what happened
[1:49:36] We have proved something in 2017. I think about it because I drive through that April once in a while, and I go to look at it because I remember being
[1:49:44] A point of contention back then. It was something that we really struggled over in 2017 and and we really were hoping that
[1:49:51] We were bringing something forward that would work and and now I'm sorry, no, you know
[1:49:57] Please, projects come back.
[1:50:00] And back to me, and I'm just starting to hear about them in its, you know, it's concerning, right? So I'm hoping that if there's some kind of accountability, then maybe Mr. Wilson's words can hold up and he best take responsibility and accountability for what's about to happen there.
[1:50:17] Okay, so we can add it one year of you after final, final permit.
[1:50:22] And make sure that the residents are notified.
[1:50:26] Not necessarily the owners we can do the property on our and the
[1:50:31] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
[1:50:33] Yeah, and
[1:50:35] The discontinuity meeting if city staff could be there that would be great. Yes
[1:50:40] And also we're gonna go check on the security cameras right to make sure that they're either installed or because I see that they were part of the conditions before
[1:50:50] Yes, okay
[1:50:51] All right, so we have a motion by Commission TimeShill, second by Commission Gonzalez.
[1:50:56] We have some added conditions that we've already reviewed.
[1:51:00] So we're going to go and call for the World Commission Gonzalez.
[1:51:02] I.
[1:51:02] Commission TimeShill.
[1:51:03] Hi, and it's going to be an I for myself as well.
[1:51:05] Mr. Wilson really, really, really hope that you take advantage of that opportunity.
[1:51:10] You have some items to take care of with your neighbors and your neighbors.
[1:51:15] I hope we'll continue to be very diligent in their.
[1:51:19] response with you and my advice to the neighbors is start developing a paper trail.
[1:51:26] You realize what my sources the city has given us so that we can really document what's going on.
[1:51:33] We do have now a clock on when we can review these items.
[1:51:39] And if we have nothing on paper, we can't really consider it.
[1:51:42] It's going to be my ultimate advice.
[1:51:44] We can talk after when we walk outside.
[1:51:46] I don't know if you want to hang out that long. We have a long presentation though.
[1:51:50] So we got to continue that. I can't keep city staff here that long.
[1:51:54] Thank you though. Thank you. Thank you all. We really appreciate this.
[1:51:58] This is what we, we, we need to fill the feedbacks sometimes as well.
[1:52:03] All right.
[1:52:04] Let me have to remember 8.3.
[1:52:06] General plan amendment number 3-23.
[1:52:09] My eyes are going bad.
[1:52:18] Well, I'll teach you how to share the screen up there?
[1:52:22] Yes, give me a fuck.
[1:52:58] Can you see the screen?
[1:52:59] Can
[1:53:17] you see our price tag?
[1:53:19] No, are you sharing your screen?
[1:53:21] Or do you want to meet the presentation on my name?
[1:53:24] Just, I'll put that on my screen.
[1:53:28] But I don't have.
[1:54:04] And the
[1:54:07] point three is jail plan amendments 0, 3,
[1:54:10] 4, 3, 4, 3, 4,
[1:54:18] 3.
[1:54:19] There's really kind of two big parts to it.
[1:54:21] One is basically a update,
[1:54:24] but the whole general plan land use policy plan.
[1:54:28] was more commonly just known as the land use demand, as part of that we also updated the
[1:54:33] context section of the land use element, and the second part of it is that the
[1:54:37] block of properties of that report, but actually, of course, where we hold it is, and it's
[1:54:44] to change the land use designation specifically for those properties.
[1:54:48] So, just to give a little bit of that problem last year, the city council adopted two general
[1:54:54] which change the general prime land use designation for properties out of the city, this was said.
[1:55:00] Part of a housing element update, and then also as part of the zoning code update. And at the same time,
[1:55:07] the city is in the process of using new software through GIS. And so we came in April to
[1:55:17] do this for the Senate map. Where we basically would put anything on this only map and wanted
[1:55:22] to do a consolidated map. Clean up everything and the entry-fetched city council, so now we're
[1:55:27] they're doing the same for their general plan.
[1:55:32] The major designations, again, where we have information in the general plan dates back many
[1:55:37] years.
[1:55:38] Since then, there's been a whole bunch of updates and there were kind of different versions
[1:55:42] of them.
[1:55:43] Some of them had, you know, the river washers with the designations, some of them didn't,
[1:55:50] you know, not everything had the well, well, I get a five, and so on, so, so some of the
[1:55:55] to be consistent with everything, properties that are the whole world are transitory, and then also the
[1:56:03] airport, then we could combine designation transportation, and then properties that were
[1:56:11] developed were worse, and also public facilities that had a similar designation of public
[1:56:25] and weaker.
[1:56:27] For the value of block of properties, there's no change in residence or density or capacity,
[1:56:32] there's no increase in the number of non-coupled users or structures, what this is doing
[1:56:36] is really, it's putting the general pentetic nation to reflect the zoning of those properties
[1:56:42] as well as the existing uses on the properties.
[1:56:46] So, these are all the categories for the venues map, we also added that the map is consistent
[1:56:52] and what the colors used in the Selling Map as well,
[1:56:55] so there's consistency there.
[1:56:57] So if your property is selling to general commercial,
[1:57:00] then the general climate being general commercial,
[1:57:03] regional commercial, you know,
[1:57:05] industrial business park is a pursuit of gray
[1:57:08] as is by transportation.
[1:57:10] Public institution is like a medium-collar blue.
[1:57:14] There's only map that wherever washers are light blue
[1:57:17] and then schools are dark up below.
[1:57:19] And also, we added as far as I know, which was said that the city approved last year, and that, for example, had not been updated on the zoning map on the general plan map.
[1:57:31] Also, the mixed use, specifications of office multi-use, and open multi-use, those were added from the housing element, and so those were also added and that correctly as well.
[1:57:43] So, this is just kind of a never-half of the city, you know, that everything now has the general plan designation, with the exception of streets and highways, those were meant to be with our own personal designation, of the city's codes, if a street or some kind of, you know, public thing does not have a zoning or general plan designation, and if that's located, then it was just a soil, whatever, it's the zoning and general plan of the adjacent city.
[1:58:13] property. So it's already covered in that manner. And then here's the southern part of the city.
[1:58:20] You see that the government that was the over the most high years for the gravity of 5.0.
[1:58:28] That's something that the plan information will be seen later this year for New Zone of Constantinence for that.
[1:58:34] And then this is the area of all that we've done at the start, which includes so you'll
[1:58:39] have and then go on all the way best to the 99 cent market.
[1:58:44] And these are kind of the two areas, the areas, the West of Johnson Avenue, which is about
[1:58:48] six to half acres that have a change from downtown court of general commercial.
[1:58:53] And then the areas to the east of Johnson Avenue, which includes so you'll have to be changed
[1:58:58] from downtown court of regional commercial, that's about eight and a half acres.
[1:59:02] And so that also, just to note, we do, in a circular manner, as a attachment to the resolution,
[1:59:10] but corresponding texts. So for each of the different menu specifications on this list,
[1:59:15] there's a text that goes with it.
[1:59:17] So we just do, like for example, we add a response of that edge because that was already adopted by Council.
[1:59:22] Now we, you know, have clared to the transportation public institution all categories.
[1:59:28] So we had the text that would act reflect that as well.
[1:59:31] So we really just know that within just kind of a line better, and then also the bedout table,
[1:59:38] the numbers, because now that they're transferring everything to the new vacuum software,
[1:59:41] we will let's get a very accurate information on the equals. So we updated the equals,
[1:59:47] so we have now the credit date which for the downturn, or much I use, the open space and so forth.
[1:59:54] So we update all those numbers as well.
[1:59:58] So over that, then, is...
[2:00:00] Actress 1, application, and recommendation for the Planning Commission to recommend the city council, approve a resolution, approve the general planning amendment.
[2:00:12] Also, just to note on the agenda, there was a carryover from the previous application, talking about the government agreement, it should actually be a general planning amendment, the staff, report and the resolution to correctly reflect that.
[2:00:25] So that concludes my presentation.
[2:00:33] I was expecting a long presentation.
[2:00:39] This was a short one.
[2:00:42] Thank you, Jason.
[2:00:45] Jason's was like, well, long one.
[2:00:46] You said you would.
[2:00:51] Okay.
[2:00:52] Okay.
[2:00:53] So we're talking about land use designation, not changes in zoning.
[2:00:58] Relax.
[2:00:59] So the zoning needs to be consistent with the land use designation.
[2:01:03] So, you know, when that change in, you know, something wasn't industrial, it's still the industrial business part.
[2:01:09] So, we didn't do any changes like that.
[2:01:11] So, in all of the only properties that really got the land use changed was this area on Valley Overfired,
[2:01:18] which the designation that has been changed to is really, when you think about the correct one,
[2:01:25] because it actually reflects the uses that are on the properties.
[2:01:27] And then, you know, that the intensity of self-identity and self-identity is the same.
[2:01:33] Actually, this is also a little bit higher than the density.
[2:01:36] The difference is that you cannot change the job plan designation of operating and produce.
[2:01:43] But that's the actual capacity.
[2:01:46] So that was exactly what that should make sure that was not necessary.
[2:01:48] Okay. I'm ready. Thanks, Jason.
[2:01:53] No questions for me. Thank you.
[2:01:54] No questions for me either.
[2:01:56] So, I'll make the motion to adopt the resolution number.
[2:02:01] I'm going to sign up for public loan.
[2:02:03] This is a super comment.
[2:02:04] That's right.
[2:02:04] My apologies.
[2:02:05] I thought this was one of those.
[2:02:07] My apologies.
[2:02:09] Public comment.
[2:02:10] Anybody in the audience wants to speak on this item?
[2:02:13] Mr. Offer.
[2:02:16] Nope.
[2:02:16] Anybody on Zoom?
[2:02:18] Raise your hand?
[2:02:24] I do not see anybody on Zoom.
[2:02:26] All right.
[2:02:26] I should speak.
[2:02:28] I want to close the public hearing.
[2:02:29] I'll second.
[2:02:40] I'll make the motion to approve to adopt resolution number 3656.
[2:02:47] I'll second motion to approve by me and second by commission I'll make the motion to approve.
[2:02:54] I, I forgot that was I, I found a shoe and I for myself as well.
[2:02:59] 3-0.
[2:03:00] All right.
[2:03:02] Now, onto the regular agenda.
[2:03:05] So item number nine, there's none.
[2:03:07] Item number 10 is Directorate Report.
[2:03:10] Now you'll have Jason's long presentation.
[2:03:11] Oh, it's so cool.
[2:03:14] So, you said that well.
[2:03:16] The benefit of that is interesting.
[2:03:17] So one of the, you know, we had the local financial mission in April and learned the
[2:03:23] the commission's had was, well, common it was, we have, how many of them that could be had and so forth.
[2:03:29] So I did put together this presentation, but then for Parker's Dr. City Council next week.
[2:03:35] So, you know, I also have this information at the City Council last for it.
[2:03:39] But just really quick, again, the ordinance was approved 10 areas of the city 600 feet from the
[2:03:47] What are you saying that are set up requirements for residential services as well as other
[2:03:54] good reports, and then the approvals, which you've had to see the other time as a development
[2:03:58] agreement,
[2:04:05] Nancy?
[2:04:07] Are you sharing your screen or do you want me to share?
[2:04:10] No, I had my screen.
[2:04:11] Did you have to share my screen?
[2:04:13] No, it did not.
[2:04:29] You should be able to share.
[2:04:30] Yeah, sorry.
[2:04:45] So, the difference is this is how the user is met by the way.
[2:04:48] that you have to prove so that all the way areas are high every little below.
[2:04:53] So you have to let it go.
[2:04:55] Let's see what we've got.
[2:04:56] And then you have the stretch of our property, so let's do it.
[2:05:00] The bill is met at the end of the flood flood area. The woman, that's constructed. The woman, the white, that is approved. That's where the FedEx building is. And then the bill, the application, that's the woman that you've got some people, that's going to go that city council next week. So this area has, what you do the math and the separation requirements, the third, third, which between two to three more bill, that's on third, right? And then on the east side, it was, we both once, two more bill boards.
[2:05:29] in that area, right?
[2:05:32] So the second segment is the area around what gateway is and the river worship.
[2:05:39] So here you have two rivers that have been approved by the City Council, and these have actually
[2:05:47] built place existing static cohorts in the area,
[2:05:53] so if static cohorts need to get removed first
[2:05:55] and then they would be able to begin construction on this.
[2:05:58] And then there's enough room in this area to do one walk-over and that would be closer to what
[2:06:04] sounds need to happen.
[2:06:06] The third segment, this is the area around the auto-hug, so on the left side of a freeway,
[2:06:12] there's the existing boomer that's constructed itself that adjacent to the Wastney Sun
[2:06:16] site.
[2:06:18] And on the south side of the freeway, it's a trying to have a property, there's an application
[2:06:21] in or at that location as well.
[2:06:25] So this is the one you do the math kind of where you look at existing, but that's constructed.
[2:06:33] These are bad.
[2:06:34] There's room for another one.
[2:06:35] Two more bad words.
[2:06:37] Let's get a method of cloud in the area because you have a lot of your auto.
[2:06:40] Do you have ship signs?
[2:06:42] Kind of narrow valley and leakers.
[2:06:45] Room for another board.
[2:06:46] And then there is another overlay district.
[2:06:51] by meaker just south of Tentbury way and so you'd be able to accommodate one bit more
[2:06:57] there. And then this is the eastern segment of the city. So here you have an existing
[2:07:02] building that's constructed. That was the first the second one to fill up. And then in a far
[2:07:07] east you have a static building board that's actually in the city of Almonti and then you
[2:07:12] have a digital building that's existing that's in the city of industry. And so here you
[2:07:19] really have room for only one more robot. That is actually area number 10. It's a
[2:07:25] industrial street sandwich between the railroad and the freeway. The other area is
[2:07:32] because of the existing buildings and the separation requirements, you would not be able to
[2:07:35] put another bit of what in either of those areas. So once you add it all up, there's three that
[2:07:41] are constructed, three approved two under application and then once you do all the math,
[2:07:48] one for another eight to 11 billboards, which was 12, 16 to 19. Now, as part of these approvals,
[2:07:55] a lot of them include removing older syndicate billboards. But if the question is kept on
[2:08:01] up at the city council as well, is that you are, we won't have anybody to reach our cap. And so
[2:08:07] based on the order of services written, but now that cap would be between 16 and 19. So if the city council
[2:08:12] to consider other things,
[2:08:15] within the course committee,
[2:08:16] they're just going to call them and move forward with that.
[2:08:18] They can add more over the areas.
[2:08:20] They can place a cap.
[2:08:22] On the mobile phones, either by earlier or over all of both,
[2:08:26] they could, you know, ask Dr. Wilviz,
[2:08:29] the wardeners may be increased separation requirements,
[2:08:32] or at other requirements.
[2:08:33] So that's all of the things that,
[2:08:35] if the council gives staff direction to do them,
[2:08:38] then we would fall in that way,
[2:08:39] because I think when the program was focused,
[2:08:42] You know, the first of them that came to the city, the kind of sense of part of the way that we were supposed to have things one at a time.
[2:08:50] But now there's, you know, obviously nothing's going on to be able to, to, to be able to, we need to kind of see the architecture.
[2:08:56] So that concludes that presentation.
[2:09:00] Without the questions, our thoughts.
[2:09:10] You're on the front of the head.
[2:09:12] Because New Year is not here today.
[2:09:15] No, they said, you have to see much of the work of this presentation today because I know
[2:09:20] he had a few questions about this as well.
[2:09:24] No, just appreciate the extensive work that you did on here.
[2:09:29] We're talking about 18 to 19 potential billboards.
[2:09:32] I mean, it does seem like a lot.
[2:09:35] But given the considerations that we're written out there,
[2:09:37] I think that there's a way of managing that.
[2:09:41] Yeah.
[2:09:41] Thanks here for the presentation.
[2:09:43] That's great.
[2:09:44] And no questions for me.
[2:09:46] And also, if I may suggest if you do have, you know, if you've thought about it, you want to bring it back to a future meeting for consideration because we will be bringing this to the development ad hoc and I'm pretty sure they're going to ask with the planning commissions recommendations or feelings are on this.
[2:10:00] So that we can be ahead of the game. If you want to take a look at this, think about it more, and then we can always bring it back for the future to get your recommendations as well.
[2:10:10] As you know, I mean, at the end of the day, obviously, you have a more than what you have than you're looking for. That's more about that. It's more about that at the same time, when you have a lot, when you have very much a close proximity at a thousand feet, the value of each boat or, you know, your revenue generation is going to be less, because the high ball is only going to be able to look at it for so long until the next boat comes up for them to look at. So, that's a balancing act in the whole thing.
[2:10:36] All right? Thank you.
[2:10:38] So now we have a 10B.
[2:10:42] Do you guys see that on the screen?
[2:10:43] Planned over the engineering divisions?
[2:10:45] Or monoization program?
[2:10:48] Okay.
[2:10:48] So this is something that, sorry,
[2:10:51] that stack has been working on for a while.
[2:10:54] Actually, Sandra has been the lead in the coordinating planning
[2:10:57] going to engineering on this as well as IT.
[2:11:00] Finance is also bad.
[2:11:03] Just to kind of solve that kind of how do we all
[2:11:05] development activity because this monetization stuff is really about our programming tracking and
[2:11:10] issue itself that. So you can see we did take a dip in, you know, application activities to
[2:11:17] have a COVID, but we're now back at pre COVID lovers. Now those you see the number of design
[2:11:22] reviews, color amendments and so forth. Initial climate use that's our preliminary projects.
[2:11:30] that come in, so you can see best numbers are also back up pretty high.
[2:11:36] Here's kind of a little bit of a piece of the other projects are,
[2:11:39] city and issue of the district projects, commercial and residential,
[2:11:43] but most of them really kind of hover around that downtown
[2:11:47] gateway, you know, kind of that auto hover area.
[2:11:51] And here's just a sort of kind of color activity,
[2:11:54] but with a better division and the climate divisions,
[2:11:57] So again, you can see over areas, you have the number of counter visits has rebounded.
[2:12:05] Obviously, in 2020, and also 2021, the counter was closed for a sense of periods of time.
[2:12:12] And a lot of people were doing things for remote.
[2:12:15] You know, now we had input and service again.
[2:12:19] The goal is to, you know, starting out with a small number of permits to be submitted online,
[2:12:24] and then to expand that as well.
[2:12:28] So that would probably be once we have
[2:12:30] like online submitted access,
[2:12:33] then most of that tracking that information as well.
[2:12:36] So this is, but one of the things that we have is called
[2:12:38] a weight while software and this is called
[2:12:40] like a modern sign in sheet,
[2:12:42] where we can track the number of customers
[2:12:43] that's at the hole.
[2:12:45] And this is launched earlier this year.
[2:12:48] It gives a lot of information.
[2:12:49] A big time, a revolution, you know,
[2:12:51] someone email and I'm sorry, text message. A lot of times, you know, you get this now when you
[2:12:57] go to the restaurant and they take your mobile number down and you get a text that you take
[2:13:01] this right? So this is kind of so much of that but for a public sector system. And here you can,
[2:13:08] you know, talk to them reports, you have a better idea of, you know, when you were busy,
[2:13:11] how long it took to have individual people, how long people have to wait. And all that kind of stuff.
[2:13:18] So that, you know, we can identify issues, attract them, and then, you know, improve our systems to better serve the public.
[2:13:28] And the other big pieces, this wasn't actually, like, this is kind of a fraction of the whole thing, is they have that software system.
[2:13:34] This is a prototyping system.
[2:13:38] We have planning planning and engineering divisions, and also finance for these.
[2:13:44] So, we just have to do an internal test and other things, but we have this year, so there
[2:13:50] is a citizen software, so what happens is, as you come in and use some of them application
[2:13:55] or CUP, we have a limited edition of your house, and so we're basically set up, you know,
[2:14:03] like an account basically, and then you're planning to get up close to that, you're, you know,
[2:14:11] comments from the planning division, engineering, or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
[2:14:15] with them feed them to fat, and, you know, the view of a notification when something
[2:14:20] is added to the mix.
[2:14:22] For deadlines, for review, what else would be your methods?
[2:14:24] Well, as you can see, like, what is my most recent, what am I supposed to get this comments?
[2:14:29] And then you can see the computer that, oh, okay, that's the next Tuesday.
[2:14:34] And then let's say, coming on Monday or something like that.
[2:14:37] And you know, this is what I was supposed to do.
[2:14:43] So this kind of would help them keep track of things, and then it's a little close about a comment.
[2:14:48] Then anyone can really help them on the phone under the basic information, because we would not like to give us a hint of here.
[2:14:53] You've got comments here and so forth and so forth.
[2:14:56] And also know to what people can be notified.
[2:15:00] And you know, we'll be that the designer, the property owner. So everything that the designer's setting, you know, the poverty owner can get that same information. So a lot of times, there's, you know, lack of communication between the applicant and the property owner.
[2:15:15] Because that's how it's a property owner, because that's how it's a property owner.
[2:15:17] I, you know, my consultants, that calling me back was the status of the project. But then they can get the same notification. So it really helps with all that. And this would happen as well with condition use permits.
[2:15:28] So projects that you saw earlier today, there was a big improvement in the computer, and then when the project is approved or denied, the resolution will be uploaded, the conditions will be uploaded, so you don't have to have the plan or down on it will be able to apply or do searches on just the regular work document that will all be in one place.
[2:15:50] So, this, again, like I said, there would be a different system set up for, you know, things like plan trips and building projects, and then, you know, a separate kind of system for, like entitlements, like CUPs and design reviews.
[2:16:07] Then here are the example of, you know, the applicant can go and enter the system and then
[2:16:12] stop if they have to go to the center, okay, this is, you know, these informations can be
[2:16:17] open to the applicant, but maybe these are the drafts, comments or whatever, maybe wouldn't
[2:16:21] be.
[2:16:22] And then they would be able to see that they will pull out all the comments, but you can get
[2:16:26] it directly.
[2:16:26] And then we've got a text message or an email to any of our other ID on the file, then we'll
[2:16:31] that point in comments, that point in comments,
[2:16:34] submit it, February 13th, and then you would buy it
[2:16:37] and then you would buy it, I don't call it now,
[2:16:38] so you complete the comment, complete the comments,
[2:16:41] and it's a quote.
[2:16:42] So you'd be able to deliver that.
[2:16:44] Whether or ever you wouldn't have to vote
[2:16:45] and leave that message for someone,
[2:16:47] or if it's you know, so I'd like to need you to live it up.
[2:16:51] We would be so proud of this, this is something
[2:16:53] where we're trying to use this program,
[2:16:57] so that there's the way we upload it,
[2:16:59] And then staff will be able to track, do add its comments on the moving software system.
[2:17:06] And this is where we're going, you know, so then let's say, it has like three recent
[2:17:12] methods, you know, you can overlay the plan.
[2:17:15] So you can see, oh, they're just changes.
[2:17:18] They change this other thing as well.
[2:17:20] So you can really, you know, understand everything that's changing, even at that
[2:17:25] and maybe don't like it, correctly, you've stood me with to see that.
[2:17:30] But I think to us that there's a few the system,
[2:17:33] we can calculate square photos, as well, or setbacks.
[2:17:38] So we would, you know, because right now it's a paper plan,
[2:17:40] and we had to, you know, measure it with a ruler,
[2:17:43] and get a calculator, and my God, that's not.
[2:17:45] And here, you know, you would just basically trace
[2:17:49] over whatever the lines are, or points are,
[2:17:52] and then I would do the calculations.
[2:17:55] And here, this is the lowest output program
[2:17:57] that I was talking about earlier.
[2:17:58] This is the one where the general plan that you guys
[2:18:00] approved, that's going to cancel,
[2:18:02] then I'll be added as a layer here.
[2:18:04] So now we have everything, and what we're using this.
[2:18:08] So we have everything that was in one place.
[2:18:11] So we have everything that was in one place.
[2:18:12] So we have everything that was we have,
[2:18:14] the county assessor information.
[2:18:17] We have the strict view, so you can see the property.
[2:18:20] We also have all the other methods.
[2:18:21] You can see something, you just click a button, and it approaches the different years down.
[2:18:26] I think we also goes back to 2007.
[2:18:29] So it's really good in looking at research, on a property,
[2:18:34] providing information to the public, on a property.
[2:18:37] And then you're going to go to one website.
[2:18:39] Previously, I went to one.
[2:18:41] Every single question you had, you had to go to different websites.
[2:18:45] Also, through the system, we, you know, again, my guess,
[2:18:49] we can print out the county apps, we get detailed property reports, we can get information
[2:18:56] on transaction history, we have a fresh out property order, things that are not available
[2:19:02] at
[2:19:05] that site, primarily because of privacy and concerns, this would have like all of the
[2:19:11] raw data, and then the staff will be able to access that and it just would make everything
[2:19:18] much simpler and again in one place. And then, this is the part that's really cool too. Staff
[2:19:24] moving forward, starting in January, starting in July, we're going to start doing the way
[2:19:29] it is now in the house. So, and actually the various map for the general plan map, because that
[2:19:38] was a city initiative project, so we made the various map ourselves on that. And then we can, you
[2:19:48] with all the labels, say that it's a PDF and we're so kind of figuring out how to move on to the format and the colors and stuff like that.
[2:19:58] But this is going to be going to be great.
[2:20:00] So, on the, as I was saying, program. So, I also to note on, sorry, on this sheet, that we have a letter for, we're adding the zoning map, the general plan map, you know, we already have the water just to fill there. Other things, maps that we're going to do include like council, the council districts is up there, sorry, like school districts,
[2:20:25] you know, annexations, so we can do, you know,
[2:20:29] have to get uploaded to a map from, you know, 20 or a lot of input footage on our planet
[2:20:34] so it's not bad.
[2:20:35] And again, you can access all that sort of, you know, at your desk basically.
[2:20:39] So that kind of concludes that presentation just wanted to share them with you guys so that
[2:20:44] it works out about people working out for a while.
[2:20:49] Thank you, Jason.
[2:20:53] No, I mean, this is exciting, you know, as a customer, what does it mean for me?
[2:20:57] Is it going to be faster?
[2:21:00] Sure.
[2:21:01] There's a couple of things.
[2:21:02] So I think we want to do a great of detail on this.
[2:21:05] Obviously, for the immigrant stuff, this is an example of the African-Americans,
[2:21:11] whoops, are the African-Americans with the Appalachian can see, so that is all
[2:21:17] way in place.
[2:21:17] And we're testing it.
[2:21:19] The goal is that through the same system, you would be able to submit your applications.
[2:21:26] The other thing we're generally going to do about the fees amounts when we take an
[2:21:30] CUP, then you know, identify all the fees, and then you know, you know, they just go straight to the finance or the house right way, you know, in there, in the, in the, ever see.
[2:21:43] But right now the applicants are able to use the interface, but in a go.
[2:21:51] Because what's going to happen is the promise that are torn on blue bean, those would then be uploaded into the interface software.
[2:22:01] So they lived in that sense.
[2:22:03] So if you drew it, that lines the comments on it,
[2:22:06] and then you would upload it to the integral system,
[2:22:10] and then whoever on the notification list
[2:22:12] will get an email or text message, they'll find that.
[2:22:16] Now, as far as the note about software,
[2:22:19] there, you know, we could allow,
[2:22:23] well, so it thinks we were a providence information,
[2:22:25] but the goal is to have as much of a good accessible
[2:22:29] to the public as possible. So, you know, to have the selling map, to have the general plan map,
[2:22:36] to have those type of things we could certainly make those things about to the public as well.
[2:22:42] And then our thought was, you know, the public version of it, you know, we would kind of get
[2:22:47] left out so we would have a time. So, you know, so that probably the first purpose that we would take
[2:22:55] would be you know the credit of the year. Great. Thank you. So this is 247. Yes.
[2:23:07] That's cool. My first example was here, like the property detail that would be confidential.
[2:23:12] So we would not get that to the applicant. There would actually, you know, basically subscribe to the own service.
[2:23:18] So that's a valuable online through the county, but not all of it.
[2:23:25] Thank you. So a question for the blue being software. I believe that sometimes when an applicant
[2:23:31] is trying to do something minor from what I remember you can go to planning and just kind of draw it
[2:23:37] by hand and turn it in is that still like something that you guys do for like minor things?
[2:23:43] Yes, who also has that available? Would they be able to kind of use go on the software and do it there?
[2:23:48] Or is it something that they just have to upload? Yeah, it's very technical for you to work the blue being
[2:23:52] software, so it's going to just be basically the planers and the building plan checker that has
[2:23:57] access to actually writing on to blue beam. But when you're, say your architect resummits,
[2:24:05] you know, they can still have access to it and they, they would probably use the same system.
[2:24:10] You've got it. But for just your everyday property owner, then it would probably be more difficult
[2:24:15] to use that. Because you have to actually have the program. You've got it. Okay. And then for the
[2:24:22] I mean, you know, we'll still be taking a paper things and so forth and paper drives.
[2:24:28] But, you know, there's a, so right now we are actually uploading like our really big projects.
[2:24:34] We're going to upload it, put them in plan check and then I ourselves and what we're doing.
[2:24:38] Well, you know, offsite.
[2:24:41] And that house, because then we're not like working plans over in a place in waiting for way, you know, to travel time and stuff like that.
[2:24:48] Um, but we would start this for the, you know, for the next foreseeable future that we would still have paper stuff as well.
[2:24:56] Got it. And then for the noble softly, um, with this vehicle.
[2:25:00] May for us to communicate better, not just with the property owners, but with the residents.
[2:25:07] You know, we're still actually playing a lot with that. We have some, I know it has, if a property has
[2:25:14] also been found in addresses, you know, every house, and so forth, and then we can do this with that.
[2:25:21] But I'm not sure if this has to come past it, I don't think it does if it's not going to come past it.
[2:25:28] Yeah, because I know one of the biggest concerns we've always had is like communicating with not just the property owners, but the residents.
[2:25:38] So we discussed before that the costs involved by knowing not just the property owners, but knowing the residents will be drastically more expensive, but we can
[2:25:49] somewhat digitalized it and do it via text message or email, like hey listen, something is going on here in your residence.
[2:25:58] I feel like I'm like kind of great.
[2:26:00] Yeah, right now the only information that we would have access to that's provided under the system would be a dress, basically.
[2:26:08] Now in a dress, you don't either for, obviously for all the properties, we would have a mailing address.
[2:26:13] And then we're still trying to figure out the reason and think, if it's a block of single-family homes,
[2:26:19] then definitely when the labor would just say it's just a resident and then had the address.
[2:26:24] So it had that specific address.
[2:26:27] So it's basically taking, like what's the address?
[2:26:30] It's one, two, three, four, you know, the value.
[2:26:33] Then it would show up like, oh, that's the address for this property.
[2:26:37] And we know they don't go with that address.
[2:26:39] But if it's like a unit, a unit B unit C, like it doesn't, it's not smart enough to know that.
[2:26:47] So this is not something that we're going to be, like,
[2:26:51] texting or emailing, this is more like, no, no.
[2:26:54] This is only now. I mean, there's no, I mean, certainly not.
[2:26:59] I mean, like, do you have a thesis with, like, mobile phone numbers, for example, they're not complete.
[2:27:04] and that, uh, names.
[2:27:06] The address per second.
[2:27:08] Um, you know, so, I don't know, how that, at least in the todays world, you know, it's not at that point yet.
[2:27:14] Okay, thank you.
[2:27:16] Well, I know.
[2:27:16] I mean, yeah, I mean, people can sign up for, like, uh, which we call it, like what we post,
[2:27:21] and you can get, you know,...
[2:27:22] or I've got to get that text message every sometimes in a junk of posts...
[2:27:25] So people have bad.
[2:27:27] So, you know, the chamber, paas, or, you know, if you're a neighbor, a group, a neighbor, a association.
[2:27:32] And, you know, you sign up for that or whatever, and then you would, you would, you know, get that information, it emails to you, but not, but we don't have, there's no record, that's a official record of life, what do email addresses, or a mobile number.
[2:27:50] Because this is all for the checks, this is all for the checks, this is all for the checks rolls.
[2:27:55] Jason, I wonder if you could, and this is by playing the sky.
[2:28:01] And if you'd be able to tie it into the geo-request system.
[2:28:10] Because the app that I've ever seen earlier where you can report certain items or look for information.
[2:28:18] I don't know if you could also input your address in front of them.
[2:28:23] And then like you said, you know, take off a little boxing.
[2:28:28] Let me know about any projects in my area that are, you know, that are coming or are going to be on an agenda soon or some of all those lines.
[2:28:37] Yeah, I mean, that's could certainly be, you know, I mean, down the board, I think, you know, we could see what the capabilities are at the program.
[2:28:46] So, I mean, I haven't know that. And obviously, you know, the program will continue to, as a software program will continue to, you know, expand and do things.
[2:28:54] You know, so the five years from now, it's probably been able to do it, but I just thought that we
[2:28:58] kept it doing it.
[2:28:59] I had to imagine I should think about it.
[2:29:01] Well, I'm looking at it right now.
[2:29:02] I'm looking at the, the, the, the app.
[2:29:05] There's actually a per week as subscribe to, uh, updates and releases and one of them is for
[2:29:12] development and redevelopment and redevelopment information is in there as well.
[2:29:18] So, I believe there's one for planning commission as well, like if you want to just be informed
[2:29:23] of every time the planning commission agenda posts, and then they'll be able to see if there's
[2:29:27] anything around their residential area.
[2:29:35] All right, we're good, thank you.
[2:29:37] All right.
[2:29:38] There we go.
[2:29:38] That's not sure.
[2:29:39] A quick question, Jason.
[2:29:41] With the software, would it have any impact or is there a way to measure when applications
[2:29:48] for ministerial review?
[2:29:50] I'm just thinking about the permit streamlining act and anything that has a timing with regard
[2:29:56] troubles like one something and applications didn't complete.
[2:30:00] Is this software that you're proposing to use? Would it track that type of thing? Where the clock starts ticking?
[2:30:08] Yeah, I'm not sure what you said, but through the interactive program, like if, for example,
[2:30:15] come to Sri Mani, you had the 30A's, so we would, that we could have that automatically
[2:30:21] populate when something that's missed that location for CUP, right?
[2:30:25] So it's so funny that, um, as far as I'm not sure what you're saying about the 7th
[2:30:32] That was my question, yes, like I'm thinking of like 60 days for 80 years, you know, that's sort of thing.
[2:30:41] Yeah, and then the other thing is, this is a part where, you know, for the era of program, you know, what pieces of it would be exactly what I mean.
[2:30:57] Because certain information, obviously for property owner, you know, they open a kind of
[2:31:02] account that can look up for it on the property and stuff like that.
[2:31:04] But if it's just on the public, you know, because of some privacy issues, it's done
[2:31:10] through like the public records request if they want information, detail information on the
[2:31:14] property.
[2:31:15] So the question is, this would be working with people.
[2:31:17] Well, that information that any from the air does, you know, would be available
[2:31:21] for the public, just for that in the public in general.
[2:31:25] down the road and that's that's obviously when I'm a place to do that now we don't
[2:31:28] want to get out of ourselves but that would be just like conversation to have.
[2:31:38] Good Jason. I don't want to see you train your work.
[2:31:44] I don't know but I do have one more. I didn't do a part and I'm not that person but it is
[2:31:51] official. I am going to be leaving the city of Almante and I don't know if you've seen
[2:31:55] what your heard or not. So I'll be here at the end of the month.
[2:32:02] Thank you, Mr. Leading.
[2:32:02] So, I'll come to that meeting to say everyone as well.
[2:32:08] Breaking my heart, Jason.
[2:32:10] Right now.
[2:32:13] I'd like to say thanks, Jason.
[2:32:16] Thank you so much.
[2:32:20] Yeah, it's for Jason's.
[2:32:21] I probably, I may not be here for that meeting.
[2:32:23] I'm not sure yet, but in case I'm not, yes,
[2:32:28] I wish you great success.
[2:32:31] Although it would be nicer just to keep you here.
[2:32:36] But in all these years, I've appreciated
[2:32:39] all the work you've put in and I've appreciated your patience with me and I appreciate every time
[2:32:44] you've explained some of these items for me. Thank you Jason.
[2:32:51] Thank you very much. I will
[2:32:52] obviously have been working with all of the different body commissions over the years, but
[2:33:02] it's just
[2:33:18] Well,
[2:33:21] what I was going to say before Jason, shared that is a piggybacking on the issue of privacy, there was a request or a question that had come up at a previous meeting with regard to sharing mailing labels of who had received noticing.
[2:33:37] And so we did look at that and consider that, but given the privacy interest around the public records act,
[2:33:50] typically what we would have is that personal contact information is information that would be redacted from published items.
[2:34:00] and so we would have to look at the public interest exception to see if there was a public
[2:34:07] interest that would outweigh in disclosure versus the public interest in protecting the
[2:34:12] pricing information. And so it's very facts specific tasks, but ultimately we advised the
[2:34:19] city is that even if it weren't as closeable, that would be something that would be a citywide policy
[2:34:25] decision, that it wouldn't be something that would just be specific to our commission,
[2:34:28] But we have to look at it as a citywide policy.
[2:34:33] So at this point, what we would advise is to continue to share the latest map,
[2:34:39] which just shows the general description for this is a bit,
[2:34:43] but not publish a specific list of name in labels with names and addresses.
[2:34:48] People, because we would ultimately adopt that information anyway,
[2:34:52] so it defeats the purpose of including it in the packet,
[2:34:56] which I think is from what I understood with the original request was.
[2:35:00] We used to get it. They used to be and then I realized it stopped coming in that, but there used to be.
[2:35:49] That, I think, was the other thing too, was we met, I mean, I know we joined in the past, but
[2:35:54] I mean, it's in those words, like, we published a tap.
[2:35:58] And then also to add, we have a record of that, so if there's a question as to,
[2:36:02] someone wants to know if they did receive a mail or not, then we can confirm it.
[2:36:09] Yeah, I told that a planner, so they used to have a hard copy printed of the labels, and they,
[2:36:14] you know, they address them and everything, like in their case file, so if someone does say,
[2:36:19] But what I'm saying is because I'm just for the East and I didn't get a notification, you know, we'd be able to look at what we're talking in within like what 15 seconds and just say, oh, we give, you know, was mal to this person under this name, to address a dress.
[2:36:37] So, you know, then, you know, maybe with someone else's law also got that bail and
[2:36:42] described it and the person was commenting, you know, with an aware of it or something.
[2:36:48] And then I have stopped the house recently that the county has taken a couple of months to update
[2:36:53] the records.
[2:36:54] So, you know, maybe it doesn't show the new owner yet because he hasn't been updated in their
[2:36:58] system.
[2:36:59] So, we believe this will look all that up, because that is important information for staff
[2:37:03] in the commission to have, and if they were from the public, they could certainly come
[2:37:08] through the office and view it, so it's not confidential as in, you know, it can't
[2:37:14] be viewed ever.
[2:37:16] That, as far as in a publishing format, I think was the, was the concern and that's the
[2:37:21] main reason why other government or, like, the county doesn't publish that kind of stuff.
[2:37:29] All right.
[2:37:29] Thank you, Jason.
[2:37:31] And we're trying to commission a comments commission as well.
[2:37:36] Thank you so much for everything that you guys have today.
[2:37:40] And that's it.
[2:37:42] Yep.
[2:37:42] All right. And then for me as well.
[2:37:44] And so then our next schedule meeting is Tuesday, June 27th.
[2:37:48] That's a PM right here.
[2:37:50] This meeting is adjourned.