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All right, everyone. Welcome. Time is now 6.03. We are three minutes behind on the open session for tonight to generate 20th meeting in the first meeting of 2025.

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226. 225 plus one. Wait, wait, start us off.

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We're going to talk today.

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After a long weekend, Tuesday is two Mondays.

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Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

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Council Member Caldore here, Council Member Girou,

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Council Member Boyles is absent this evening,

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Council Member, I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tembal Dino,

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and Mayor Pimental.

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Here and to lead us in the vocation,

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Pastor McKinney here, there we go.

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From the bridge followed by the pledge of allegiance by

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Council Member Girou, so Pastor McKinney, the floor's yours.

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That's right.

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That my father tonight, I was reminded driving over here

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that you're a God that loves to bless.

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And I'm reminded of the word that was given to JB as that he prayed Lord bless me that I may be a blessing.

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And when I pray that over our city, I pray that you would bless the city of El Segundo,

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so that El Segundo could be a blessing to others.

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I pray that you would guard the hearts of our leadership that you would strengthen them.

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I pray that you would give them wisdom and discernment, Lord God.

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In fact, your word says that if we lack wisdom, ask of you and that you give it to us generously.

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And so Lord, we pray for wisdom, and we pray that you lead in guidance, Lord God, and guide this great city.

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And Lord, as I pray every time I pray that you cover this city, that you protect Lord those that work in this city.

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Lord, our firefighters and police officers, Lord God, our school teachers and administrators, our city workers, Lord God,

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Lord, just protect them, I keep them safe.

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Lord, we pray against any kinds of tragedies

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Lord God that you would cover this city in those areas.

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And Lord, thank you for the families and else again,

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to thank you for the moms and dads,

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thank you for the husbands and wives.

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Thank you, Lord, for the children of this community, Lord God,

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and all the great things that this community

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is able to provide for families.

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We're thankful for that.

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And so Lord, tonight, thank you that you're here.

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Lead this meeting, and we pray this in your name, amen.

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Thank you, Pastor McKinney.

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And thank you, Council Member Giroux.

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We have one special presentation that this evening.

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Council Member Kilper, if you want to take us out.

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Absolutely.

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This is a commendation by the City of Elceagundo,

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whereas for more than 15 years,

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Mattel has shown exemplary generosity and an unwavering commitment

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to the Elceagundo community through its support

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of the annual joy around the world event.

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And whereas year after year, Mattel has donated more than 1500 toys,

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bringing joy, laughter, and smiles to thousands of children and families throughout the city of El Segundo.

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And where is this exceptional and sustained legacy of giving reflects not only on Matel's remarkable corporate generosity,

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but also its deeply rooted dedication to uplifting others, strengthening community bonds,

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and creating meaningful lasting holiday memories.

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Whereas the impact of Mattel's generosity resonates throughout the community by reinforcing the timeless values of compassion, kindness, and togetherness that define the spirit of the holiday season.

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And whereas in addition to its generous toy donations, Mattel's staff members have selflessly volunteered their time and energy at the joy around the world event each year, joyfully distributing gifts to children and families.

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And whereas Metell's enduring partnership and steadfast commitment have been instrumental in preserving and enhancing one of El Cigando's most cherished holiday tradition, bringing the community together in celebration of Goodwill and shared joy.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed on this 20th day of January 2026.

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The mayor members of the City Council of the City of El Cigando California, hereby proudly commend honor and express our deepest gratitude to Metell.

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It's dedicated staff for their outstanding service, remarkable generosity, and unsolvish commitment to the community, and extends sincere appreciation for their continued role in keeping the spirit of the holiday it's alive and thriving in Elcicando.

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Thank you so much, and I'm going to invite Alley Mancini up to say a few words.

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Good evening Honorable Mayor members of the council.

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Thank you, Councilmember Keldorf.

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You said that.

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That very eloquently, and which much nicer words than I will, but I want to express the same sentiment.

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We are so grateful for Mattel, and it's not just about the toys. It's about the spirit that they bring to the event.

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The community, the pride they have in not only what they do, but what they do with us and partner and the way that they partner with us to bring magic during this time of year,

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just so many people and not only in El Segundo but beyond so I want to extend my appreciation

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and gratitude as well and then I would like to invite Nancy Melinda up to say a few words

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as well.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for having us.

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What an honor.

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Good to see you again, Chris.

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We are so thrilled to be such a valuable part of this community.

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It is a very special place for Mattel as you know for all these years we've been here

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And we are thrilled to be a continuing part of your annual holiday celebrations.

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We brought our volunteers that we're here distributing those toys and we have Karen with us who's a key partner to me in all of our late relationships and Brittany and Isabella from the Philanthropy team.

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We value our partnership.

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We are here for the long haul.

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We are looking forward to 2026 in participating with you.

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And again, thank you for such a special honor on behalf of all that's here and I know all of our leaders that mentality all thought it was pretty cool that we were coming here tonight to receive this recognition. So thank you again.

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You can move there, you can go.

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Okay, if you go there, you can go further.

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You can go further.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Please take care.

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Wait, forward is so much fun.

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I can go here, so go Carol and I rad it.

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And when the buses show up and the brave work wave of children, like running across.

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Amazing.

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All right, men, I'm clear, can't we look at public comments?

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We have one person to address the council this evening.

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Oh, very well.

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A gender is item or not a gender.

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Not a gender.

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All right.

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Better hot topic.

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Four minutes.

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Oh, is that from vector control?

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Oh, you're getting all five.

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There we go.

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Aaron, please, the floor is yours.

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Yes.

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I would like to invite Aaron Arge, who is with the L.A. county west vector control district.

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That was correct.

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Yes.

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I'm Aaron Arge.

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I'm the executive director with L.A. county west vector control.

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And I'm just prepared to really update the council and residents of the city on just the mosquito issue.

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It's been in the news and I've been keeping eye on all the media attention and I just wanted to make sure we update you on.

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What our agency is doing as well as just current status.

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So we are a basically a mosquito bateman district and we do disease surveillance as well for mosquito borne viruses.

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We cover over 400 square miles with LC-Gundled being within our district boundaries.

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We've been working in conjunction with the Hyperion

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Reclamation Plan staff, as well as in Friedman Contact

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with your Public Works Department over the past two months

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trying to address the mosquito issue.

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So right now we are engaged in trapping and surveillance

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within the neighborhood adjacent to the green belt,

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right behind the Hyperion plant,

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as well as doing inspections within the facility itself.

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So we've been working with the Hyperion staff.

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Right now, they have been involved in doing a lot of water removal, standing water removal, inspections, treatments, and we've been assisting in advising them on that.

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So in December, we saw spike in mosquito numbers.

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We alerted Hyperion because we do keep an eye on it.

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And since then, the numbers have come down in January, so it looks like we're going in the right direction.

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But I would expect that you're still going to see some resident complaints and some issues with mosquitoes over the coming weeks.

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because it does take a little bit of time for the numbers to go down

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once you've eliminated breeding sources.

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So, there's still going to be some issue.

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We probably, the next few weeks, but we do anticipate it going down. The factors that were involved in creating

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this situation, I think it was primarily, there was a rain event, there was a lot of standing

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water in the planet itself, and in that plant, obviously, it was huge, and there were many sources

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of standing water from the rain. In addition to that, with the regular cycle of their maintenance and

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their facility, there's always issues with standing water. So we've been working with them right

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how they appear to be getting a handle on it, and it looks like we're moving forward, things

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are going to be much better for the residents in that area adjacent to Hyde-Pran.

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But in the meantime, we just want to recommend that residents really need to make sure

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their windows and doors are screened, they keep those areas closed, while this misty activity

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is continuing, we need to make sure everyone is getting rid of standing water around their

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If they need an inspection, if they have drains or standing water within their property, they

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We can call us directly at 310 915-737-0 or go to our website at www.lewestvector.org and make

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an schedule of free inspection.

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We'll come out on a service request, do a free inspection of the property, see if there's

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any freeing sources needed to be treated there, while we're also working with that parent to

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resolve the situation on there, so as well.

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We hope this will improve the media attention seemed a little extreme, but it's one of those

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things and because of the time of year, it was a little unusual to see

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despite in the winter. It's not really accustomed to, but I think it was a

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rain event, then some warm weather, in addition to some maintenance issues in

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the facility that all combine to create the issue.

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City manager, we're okay to ask

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questions, or are you okay to ask questions?

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All right, council questions please. The number you gave to contact

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The vector control directly is 310, 915, 9170, 915, 73700, 73700.

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If I have mosquito, probably my house, this is a number I call to reach for the call,

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or go to our website, and either way, you can register a service request.

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Yeah, you put a service request on the website, different data call, you're like an hour.

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That's best. I have a question you mentioned, disease testing.

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Just some education on how that happens. Are you able to do that

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for collecting live mosquitoes, how does that work and have you done that here?

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Yes, so we have regular tracking schedule in the neighborhood and in the green dog.

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So when we get enough mosquitoes, they are sent to the state for testing for mosquito-borne viruses.

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So for the entire calendar year of 2025, none of the mosquitoes we sent in will positive, they were all negative.

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Now we have some outstanding samples for the past few weeks, we're waiting on results from those,

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but right now we're really looking at more of the nuisance problem as opposed to a disease risk.

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Thank you.

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Or are we able, or are we resolved, that issues we have with using insecticide in hyperion

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and does it interfere with their process?

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They have requirements regarding what can be going into the system.

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So a lot of the work with mosquitoes in high-crain is really more of a maintenance and exclusion issue.

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It's really getting rid of standing water pumping out batteries or clarifiers that are not in use

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that collect water.

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So if they pump out that water, let things dry out as well as closing vents, screening

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off vents that lead to underground sources, so it's really primarily a maintenance issue

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of exclusion and removing standing water, then there are some issues where there's open

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water that can't be screened off or sealed, and then that leads to a treatment.

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They are doing treatments now also on their own, we're guiding them in that situation.

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So I think going forward. It's really going to improve. It's just they need a little bit of time to see the numbers drop

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Because once the adults hatch off, you're going to see them for a while and then usually if you remove the breeding sources the numbers start coming down within a couple of weeks

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And then do you know your staff that are very active over here?

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Have they had any issue getting access to any private properties that they want to inspect or any construction sites?

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No, typically for the private properties the residents are calling us so they're letting us gain access

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We really haven't been seeing a problem with mosquito breeding much within the neighborhood, and in our inspections in the Greenbelt, we haven't seen any no breeding within the Greenbelt either.

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So primarily we're focused with getting high plane staff to continue with their process of the maintenance and the next conclusion.

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Have you guys done any investigation on LAX's property or in scattergots?

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We have.

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We haven't really been following much there either.

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Okay, so we're pretty sure we know where what this center of gravity is here.

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Yes,

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for the question city manager.

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One last thing that I want to mention is we do have an open spot for the city of Elcidando on our board of trustees.

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So if you're interested, contact me and you know, your service won't change.

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We still will be here no matter what whether you have someone on a board or not.

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But if anyone's interested, we do have an opening for a member from Elcidando.

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And that's a member, can it be anybody from the community?

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Or it kind of depends on your city.

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Some cities only assumptions.

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Council members are mayors to the board. Other cities will assign a resident, a voting, you know, resident of the city. It just depends on how your city operates. It can happen either way. We don't have a restriction on that alone.

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Thank you.

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Envectors control, or, or, or, or, or, all manner of disturbing, vermined pestilence, right? It's not just mosquitoes, we get.

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All right, that's it. Rats and bats. Well, mosquitoes are bread and butter. We don't deal with any vertebrates. No, no rats and bats. Have you somebody else?

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But we primarily deal with mosquitoes, we do some singing and second troll.

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Oh, okay.

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We're dealing with this attractive kind of

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legal situation.

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We also do some surveillance for tick-borne diseases in some of the local mountains.

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But our bread and butterism still doesn't.

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Council member Boyles, I think, is ready to be a volunteer for this.

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New Zealanders.

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Any further questions?

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I thank you so very much.

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I appreciate you giving me a good information.

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I will entertain a procedural motion to read all or to read by title only.

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So move up, then a second.

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All the different.

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All the different on the first, drew on the second.

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Let me get the magnum to tell, first.

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Let's drew a second.

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We sound the same.

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We'll pull the minutes last time.

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All right, do we have to do roll call, though?

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It's because we have one absent or do we do it just a, OK, best, four o.

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All right, consent, who has poles?

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Now

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I will caution that because it's the three day weekend we don't get to have the meeting with the City Manager yesterday, so I'm going to pull item four.

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So with that I will entertain a motion to approve items 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, and 8.

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So moved. Do you rule on the first?

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All the milliseconds.

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All those in favor.

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All right.

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Oh, because we're good.

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Do you vote on that one?

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Sorry.

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I picked up.

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All right.

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Forero, item four, this is the construction contract

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award for electric vehicle charging installation project.

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Yes, my question is, so we have an expiring contract

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on our previous charger.

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We're putting all the chargers behind City Hall.

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Is there any reason why we didn't locate them

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in one of the vehicle yards or at our least parking garage?

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Yes, the reason is because we're adding six

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flux, quantity more than anything else. So we're going to be upgrading the other facilities with

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the next phase with the money that we have received, but we wanted to break it down and do the

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provide the six plugs for the fleet at the executive parking lot, as well as upgrade the existing

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connection that we have at the Holly at the same time, and then we'll be concentrating on upgrading

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all the facilities and adding plugs to police fire, yard, maybe even by the

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recon port, by the Chicago building and other places.

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So it's a convenience factor out priority work to put them behind this building,

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because this isn't where we typically would stage our electric vehicle.

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We just have the one from planning and like a golf cart.

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Yeah, there are a few cars from community development, one called from IT to the

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from public works, so this is really executive parking lot would be a convenient place as well as the fact that we are putting six plugs, so that allows the fleet to be able to be charged the most efficient owner in our smallest facility.

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And we will add these plugs in other facilities later on down the road, for police, for fire, for the yard.

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We plan to add more plug stare, but that'll be the second phase of the project.

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I don't want to answer your question.

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Let me answer my question.

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Some of you can see where I'm going.

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Some would question a lot.

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Putting the utility spend in our smallest facility as opposed to our larger ones.

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we entertain more vehicles.

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That being said, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna,

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I'll let it down or sprinkle good ideas on this.

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I just wanted to understand a logic.

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We already have some plugs in our yard already

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for EV stations, but we intend to add more plugs.

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Very well.

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With that, I will move approval by then four.

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I'll second.

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But then the second, I'll move approval by then four.

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Aye.

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has this for oh.

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All right. We are on to item nine, a public hearing is the time and place

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Proper notice was given in a timely manner. Has any written to me to get-

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Local government meeting, council.

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No. In communication has been received.

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The public hearing is now open. Mister George, who present on the sign name?

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Yes. Joe Lawrence, for my, uh, uh, Parks and Recreation and Library Department in our

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PANTIX Manager.

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Good evening on our full mayor and city council. Thank you for having me tonight to present on the

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Aquatics specific section fees. To provide some, um.

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So to provide some background on October 7, City Council approved the Aquatics Business Plan which established a roadmap towards the city meeting cost recovery goals on the Aquatics facilities.

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To support these goals, the plan identified key adjustments across Aquatics programs and services.

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I'll be reviewing Aquatics related fees and highlighting the specific areas that are changing as a result of the plan that you guys approved on October 7.

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The fees being reviewed include aquatic services and programs, facility rentals, and event pricing.

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Starting out with drop-in.

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Starting out with drop-in programs.

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These include activities such as lap swimming, recreation swim, unguided programs, allowing patrons

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to attend at their discretion during operating hours.

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Consistent with the business plan, we are keeping all resident pricing the same,

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while increasing non-resident pricing by one dollar.

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The slide also includes market comparables,

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which show that El Segundo remains aligned

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with surrounding agencies.

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In addition to the drop-in pricing,

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we have the drop-in passes.

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These are for individuals who frequently use our drop-in programs.

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They can purchase memberships

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that reduce the cost per swim by bulk purchasing passes.

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We have our annual 10-punch, 20-punch, and 30-punch.

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And just like on the drop in fees, we are only increasing the non-resident pricing, proportionally,

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proportionally consistent with the business plan.

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For our aquatic miscellaneous programs, the only item that we are increasing is the non-resident

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special event fee, which increases from $11 to $12.

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This would include programs such as our Halloween and Easter events.

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And, dive in movies and other special events that we would run at any of our Aquax facilities.

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On to our facility rentals.

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With the return of the plunge, we now have more opportunity to provide private facility rentals, such as birthday parties.

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These are ranging from 250 to 400 per hour depending on residency and for profit status.

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They have the option of adding on items such as the inflatable obstacle course or the key log roll.

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And hilltop pool rental pricing remains unchanged.

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Additionally, we are simplifying the additional staffing fee structure with clear hourly rates to cover light additional light guards, senior light guards, or front desk, as needed.

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All of these items would be on a per hour rental basis.

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onto the biggest change is our lane rentals.

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So the business plan introduced a new lane rental structure

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where we established a prime time and a non-prime time structure.

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The prime time would move from $18 an hour to $20 an hour

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and non-prime time would move from $9.80 to $12 per hour.

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For the instructional pool, the rates would be 10, 14 and 10.

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for prime time and dawn prime time.

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We are establishing prime time prior to 7 p.m.

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and non prime time after 7 p.m.

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But it also gives staff the discretion of determining when there are low use times

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and then allowing them to use those rates.

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This would particularly go into effect if there was low rentals

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and utilization on days like Sunday.

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For event rentals, we are keeping aquatic event rentals the same as for a pricing continues

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to align with market comparables.

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These rentals would also be subject to the newly formatted additional staffing fees as previously

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discussed.

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So if a really big rental came in, whether there's a lot of people in the water and we need

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to add a bunch more lifeguards, they would get tacked on without ever many lifeguards we need

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for the $30 per hour.

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And finally, we have swim lessons.

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So, during the October 7th meeting, City Council expressed a desire to meet.

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We maintain affordable swim lessons to support community wide water safety. There was also discussion about the possibility of moving closer to market rates.

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One proposal that we can provide is to keep the lower level, learn a swim lessons, subsidized and unchanged, while the upper lessons that focus more on stroke, refinement and preparation for competitive swimming

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would be closer to the market medium.

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As you can see here, our per class rate for the lower levels is $6.25 for residents.

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And the median for residents in the surrounding cities is $13.50.

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We would keep it the same to subsidize the learned swim levels to encourage water safety.

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And the proposal that we have is to increase the upper levels to the $100 price point which makes it $12.50 per class for residents.

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For private?

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Yes.

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That is correct.

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For private.

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Yes.

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Privates are four classes that you sign up for at a time and groups when lessons are eight.

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Thank you.

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Finally, for the presented plan, all presented rates, including the unchanged ones, would

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or CV-5% increase beginning each calendar year.

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That concludes all of the slides that I have for you today.

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If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer,

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go back to any of the slides, and discuss any portion

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of the presentation further.

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The public hearing is now open for public input.

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So you need not to have a motion to close the public hearing.

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It's a moment.

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Cut up on the first.

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Drew on the second, all in favor.

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Aye.

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Four oh.

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All right.

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Now we can discuss interrogate,

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I have one.

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I assume that these rates have been shared with the competitive teams and things like

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that as well.

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Has there been any discussion or any kickback for many of them saying we can't do this?

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As of this time late, there has not.

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Okay, so everybody's well aware that they've done all the math and we're good.

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Okay, no further questions.

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Did you save 5% a year after this, we would increase these rates?

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That was presented in the business plan, yes.

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Is there a reason why we would do these as opposed to CPI, like we do with the rest of the

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future schedule?

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I think the intention is to increase it per CPI.

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I was just looking about what was presented and it said 5% in the business plan.

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I think that doing it with what the rest of the city's fees would be fully acceptable.

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Because we have that for all our classes and everything else, right?

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That's right.

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That makes total sense.

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It should fall right in line.

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We're not trying to make a profit or you've cost recovery is what we say,

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but I agree with the mayor that should fall in line with all our other fee structures that we have.

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I'm going to need further.

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I think we have consensus city attorney.

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Will you read the resolution by title only?

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Well, hold on.

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Let me, I don't have any questions, but I do serve

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on the Eclipse subcommittee, and I know how hard Joe and Mark

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Carbillow have worked on this plan.

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So thank you for the time you put into this, the patients,

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that Eclipse subcommittee is very well-intended by the club

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swimmers who use that pool.

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So I'm absolutely certain they're well aware of what we're

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doing here, but thank you for your time and effort

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getting us done for us.

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I guess we'll just add a line to the public hearing

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script for the city of turning now,

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you read the resolution by telling me. Yes, and it will include the revision to have these adjusted by CPI every

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or annually. Thank you. A resolution adopting new fees for the else you've got to a

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aquatic section is ready for adoption. May the motion to adopt. They're moved. Go to the

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first. Second. You're on the second. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Passes for oh. It is adopted. Thank you again

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very much and thank you for your committee. Thank you. I don't think your work is going to be

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quite done. I'm sure you get lots of input. That's people actually pay. Alright, item 10,

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staff presentation and update to the fire division chief and fire marshal classifications.

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Director Retic, here you go.

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May our members of the council, this item tonight is regarding two positions in the fire department. One, we have had challenges recruiting for, and the other one, we are going to be opening an upcoming recruitment.

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So the first position I'll talk about is the fire marshal position. The fire marshal was last filled in November of 2023. And since then, we have tried to recruit for it, and we found that they're very limited,

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candidates. We also had a fire chief that was qualified to perform those duties and so he was

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performing the duties. We have launched another requirement still very limited qualified candidates.

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So we did do an external salary survey. We found that our physician is significantly below

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market. However, our pay scale needs to fit in the city of El Segundo pay scale. So with this

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position, we are asking for an increase to the top step salary for it, placing at the

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same level as the environmental safety manager position, which is also in the fire department.

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We have placed the salary range.

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It's an increase of $1,000 and $25 per month at the top step.

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So we're hopeful that that will help us in assisting this and filling this really critical

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position for the fire department.

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And any time we do salary surveys or increases to salaries or looking at an example, we also take a look at the job description.

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So we did do that in this case, and this position belongs to the supervisor's bargaining unit.

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The supervisor and professional employees association.

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So we did update it to our current format or current language that we're using in all specs.

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And we did run it past the bargaining unit.

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They agree with the changes that were made.

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The exam plan for this recruitment.

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We are recommending no changes to the exam plan.

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The exam plan is basically, after we do the recruitment,

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what is the testing process to select the candidate?

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So for that, that is it for the fire marshal position.

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I can answer questions on that,

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I'd like me to proceed to the fire division, Chief.

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What would you jump into as far as Marshall questions?

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We used to carry two spots for fire marshals.

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And now we carry one, correct?

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We are one at a deputy.

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And the one we were feeling with the chief.

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We have one position.

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It's the fire marshall.

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We were filling it with the chief.

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When we were having difficulty recruiting,

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we were looking at hiring a potentially a deputy fire marshall.

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Maybe we could hire someone and train them and grow them into that position.

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But then the chief was taking on those duties temporarily at the time.

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Or maybe a misremembering this when we had one before she left and then we were feeling a second role with the contractor because we were behind on building inspections set.

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So chief Ali, we were temporarily using a contractor because during COVID we were behind on inspections and we used the contractor to bring us up to where we needed to be.

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So that was just a temporary basis.

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OK, is that model, is that model legal to use a contractor instead of a, instead of an

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in-house fire marshal?

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I mean, if we're doing a full-time understand that in an extremist, we could do it.

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We could do a lot of things a little bit, but if we're like, if this, if this is a position

455
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:47,380
that is, was that a successful model, having a big, effectively a contractor, plus a dual

456
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:53,000
had internal candidate, like we had a division chief who also could serve as it.

457
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:59,240
We had a need to use a contractor to catch us up with the inspections that were behind

458
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,760
during COVID, but we really do need this full-time position filled by an in-house employee.

459
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:14,260
There are a lot of inspections that they do on new development, and as I understand we have

460
00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:20,580
a lot of things in the pike, there's a sparks project is coming up which will be a lot of inspections

461
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:21,500
as well.

462
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:26,080
I understand. I just just I'm just trying to remember that the track record of food we'd had

463
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,820
You are correct a role for a while I thought it was a thought we had two of these billets

464
00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:36,960
But maybe I could be using that plus the coop or something. We have other positions which are prevention specialists that are part two of our Marshall

465
00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:41,740
They need council chief out of here

466
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,500
And then here quite a while I've always had a fire marshal

467
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:50,640
basically involve a fire prevention, my entire career. You are correct. We did

468
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,940
sit some, I guess, kind of patch jobs with a contractor when she very

469
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:58,800
was trying to do the job as a fire marshal and then a deputy that we're

470
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,960
thinking about that to the groom them up.

471
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:10,140
It's not ideal. It is a from a safety standpoint, important for our city, code enforcement. We have a lot of new construction happening here.

472
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:17,200
We've got my inspector, inspector rain from some of our others. They've actually elevated their level to a higher level of inspection.

473
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:28,780
It's now a two and we've done well to keep it up with it. We just find right now some leadership and supervision is going to be, and no, it's has been ideal or more advantageous for the department.

474
00:35:28,780 --> 00:35:38,900
So, we won't carry a deputy marshal and a fire marshal, it will be a fire marshal, and then the inspectors that fall underneath the fire marshal.

475
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:45,460
But it definitely brings that guidance and keeps a lot of the programs that we're running smoother.

476
00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:53,000
We haven't had it for two years, they tell the line, but it's time right now to make this adjustment, maybe.

477
00:35:57,750 --> 00:36:05,770
Okay, fire division chief, so the person overalls in El Segundo, if you're going to run a

478
00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:10,210
promotional recruitment, meaning it's only open to City of El Segundo employees for promotion,

479
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:16,810
you're required to send out notification 30 days in advance, with the upcoming promotion

480
00:36:16,810 --> 00:36:23,090
of one of our division chiefs, we will have a vacancy at the division chief level so we have sent

481
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:30,150
out that notification that we will be posting an exam soon. But again, with that, we'll

482
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:35,070
be posting exams. We like to take a nice review of the job description. And this one we

483
00:36:35,070 --> 00:36:43,770
did make changes to. I worked with GFali to make those changes. So the requirements were 8 years

484
00:36:43,770 --> 00:36:49,370
in the fire service, 4 years as a captain and bachelor's degree. So it's heavy on the education

485
00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:55,450
with the bachelor's degree. We are revising that to 8 years in the fire service three years

486
00:36:55,450 --> 00:37:03,430
as a captain and then several significant coursework through FEMA and the California State

487
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:08,230
Fire Service Training Education System through the Office of the State Fire Marshall and

488
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:15,210
there's several ICS courses that they have to take chief officers certification within 12 months.

489
00:37:15,210 --> 00:37:22,590
So a significant emphasis on professional training in the fire service rather than emphasis on the bachelor's degree.

490
00:37:23,410 --> 00:37:29,090
With the exam plan, how are we going to test the persons who apply for this position?

491
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:37,590
We just modified it that slightly, we are going to do a written and an oral presentation in the exam plan.

492
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:39,690
So that was the only change.

493
00:37:40,010 --> 00:37:42,550
So written exam, written exercise is a presentation

494
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:45,810
of 20% and a view will be 40%

495
00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:48,110
and then tactical exercises will be 40

496
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:51,610
with the candidates needing to pass each part of the process

497
00:37:51,610 --> 00:37:53,850
to be placed on the eligible list for higher.

498
00:37:54,970 --> 00:37:57,690
And so that's basically an overview of the fire division.

499
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:00,350
Chief job description changes.

500
00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:03,430
There is no salary change at all.

501
00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:05,710
The only salary change is supported

502
00:38:05,710 --> 00:38:12,070
the fire marshal position. And Calbers does require us to have a resolution with the

503
00:38:12,070 --> 00:38:18,570
salary steps for any salary changes, so I have that available for your consideration tonight.

504
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:22,670
Council questions?

505
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,320
No, I do appreciate every time you revise one of these job descriptions

506
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,000
the red line. I always find so entertaining and the things you don't think you have to put

507
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,900
in there and then you read them out loud and you're like, well, I'm glad it says that. So I appreciate

508
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:46,860
you might not detail you put in that. Thank you. Madam Clerk can we take all of these under

509
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:51,460
the resolution or do we have to approve the classification change first and then adapt the

510
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:56,200
resolution? You can do it all together. We can do an hope. The City Attorney in that case

511
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,620
would you read this by title only? A resolution modifying the basic salary range for a full-time job

512
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:07,540
classification. So you'd be improving that and then the approval of the descriptions for the other two

513
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:08,000
positions.

514
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:12,650
Wouldn't anyone like to move approval? Sure,

515
00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:15,910
audience members. I'm going to tell them from the second,

516
00:39:16,090 --> 00:39:19,990
all those in favor. Aye. For oh. Thank you very much,

517
00:39:20,110 --> 00:39:20,450
Director Renee.

518
00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:27,280
All right. Item 11, the Waste and Waste Water

519
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,940
rate study for a request for proposal.

520
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,520
Happy New Year Council.

521
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,460
Good evening. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem City Council members. The

522
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:40,420
item before he is to authorize the city to release a request for

523
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:46,860
positive for the water and wastewater rate feast study. Being that city owns and operates its

524
00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:51,740
own water and wastewater facilities. It's financially fooded into conduct day feast study

525
00:39:51,740 --> 00:39:59,800
every five years. The last time we conducted a feast study was back in 2019 and it took effect.

526
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:24,840
February of 2021. So we're at year 6 of our rate study. Due to Prop 2, 18, the restricts us to not increase any more rates after the fifth year, until you do another proper to 18 process. So as of now, being that we're in year 6, the water and waste water rates will not go up until we conduct a full fee study and then do a proper to 18 process.

527
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,280
regards to cost, we budgeted $180,000 in the current budget.

528
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:35,140
It's not in the general fund, it's split between the water fund and the wastewater fund.

529
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,740
And regards to timeline, as we approach the council, we draft the RFP.

530
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:47,380
We want to release the RFP of council approves us to release it tonight.

531
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:54,700
We'll be posted January 22nd, we're expecting the proposal to be back February 27th.

532
00:40:54,700 --> 00:41:04,300
And then we will come back to Council on April 7th for a award of contract to the consulting firm.

533
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,940
And then the fee study will begin.

534
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,600
And at this point of course, it's preliminary, but we'll expect to do a

535
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,160
a prop to 18 process in February of 27.

536
00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:18,500
And then the rates will go in effect April 27.

537
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,700
So rate studies typically take 8 to 10 months after

538
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:30,660
after we issue the agreement with the consulting firm. With that said, that concludes my presentation,

539
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,000
and I'm available for any questions from Council. Thank you.

540
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:35,540
Council questions?

541
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,980
I don't have a question or a very helpful comment, but it just seems like a lot of money.

542
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,300
I assume that's just the going rate of what it costs to do this every five years.

543
00:41:46,420 --> 00:41:50,880
Yes, we did the research. We kind of looked around and see what it was of most recent race studies

544
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,700
has been done in other agencies, has done water race, water studies, and fortunately, unfortunately,

545
00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:59,320
it is a going rate of what they cost.

546
00:42:00,460 --> 00:42:05,020
I mean, at the end of the day, it does get kind of wrapped up back into the rates itself once

547
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:07,980
it gets established, but that is the going rate of these days.

548
00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:13,840
The remarkable, right, that the Proposition 218 process is designed to save taxpayers' money

549
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,160
and creates an industry that costs taxpayers' more money.

550
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:24,060
I think it is worth noting for both people hiding under mosquito nets at home that are watching,

551
00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:28,720
that the city makes no money on water or waste water.

552
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:34,940
We are simply a pastor entity, and the reason we have to do this study is state law requires

553
00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:41,440
us to rationalize exactly what that cost is in excruciating detail.

554
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,200
So this does not go to the wreck park or punishment project.

555
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:53,040
This is all we are just a pastor entity and further for the people watching where east of PCH

556
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Right, so Ellie County sanitation has their own rate study that is different from this and those

557
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,040
Sanitization rates are charged as is a part of the property tax

558
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,120
So it's slightly different and super confusing no wonder people at home don't get it

559
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:12,360
But there is some opacity to it. We just want to stress that this is we are just we're just the bag man on this

560
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,180
We are we're not making any money

561
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:22,200
All right, and with that, take a motion to authorize the Chief Financial Officer to release the

562
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,360
request for proposals.

563
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,240
So moved, through on the first.

564
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:28,400
I'll be back in.

565
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,360
Keldorf on the second.

566
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,160
All those in favor.

567
00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:30,660
Hi.

568
00:43:31,060 --> 00:43:31,280
Hi.

569
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,140
Thank you very much, Director Schung.

570
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,280
Thank you, Keldorf.

571
00:43:36,430 --> 00:43:39,470
All right, now to get even further into the weeds of municipal management.

572
00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:44,770
And item 12, the transfer of administration, investment management, and assets of the city's

573
00:43:44,770 --> 00:43:49,510
other post-employment benefits or OPEB, section 115 trust.

574
00:43:50,770 --> 00:43:57,950
Yes, thank you, Mayor, tonight I have Mark Schuster, thank you, we do have a presentation,

575
00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:01,510
Mark has a presentation, I just have a verbal.

576
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:06,110
That's the sign that the people receiving these benefits remember, so that's what it is again.

577
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:14,580
So, regards to the item before you announce it tonight, it's our OPEB, it's our other post employment benefit,

578
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:23,140
or the retiree, retiree, medical pension portfolio that the city currently has.

579
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:27,260
The city has two, what we call one-fifth section, one-fifth, 15th,

580
00:44:27,260 --> 00:44:33,800
rather it's just an IRS code to basically restrict if you put a side money for a particular purpose,

581
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:40,860
for the section 115. That's where you can only spend it for. So the city has two section 115

582
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:46,160
trust. One is the OPEP, which currently is sitting at $40 million, approximately $40 million.

583
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:53,180
And then we have a second one 15 trust. That's our pension stabilization fund sitting at

584
00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:59,980
over $6 million. We got to why we are here tonight.

585
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,840
Really, the Schoesters firm has been with us since 2019. He oversees our one of our 15-truss, our pension stabilization

586
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:18,020
trust fund. And his firm has done a great job. We did present the option to move our OPEF fund

587
00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:25,660
over to Schoesters from CalPERS back in November to the Finance Committee as well to get their input.

588
00:45:25,660 --> 00:45:44,040
And ultimately, the reason for this is, is several folds, there's a benefit of enhancing financial performance due to customizing portfolios right now with CalPERS and we've been with CalPERS overseeing our OPEB for since 2008.

589
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,300
And they really only provide cities or agencies that are with CalPERS, three options, three strategies.

590
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:58,600
and we've always stuck with strategy one, which is the most, I would say, not risk high risk,

591
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:06,760
but it's basically broken into 60, 40, meaning 40% in bonds and 60% in bonds, 40% in

592
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,400
somewhat equities.

593
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,820
And we don't really have any control whatsoever the city does not.

594
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:12,360
You only have those three strategies.

595
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:17,000
So with choosers firm, he provides more customizable profile.

596
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,540
is currently has 11 portfolios that the city can select from.

597
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,920
Really gives you more flexibility or us

598
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,360
to city, more flexibility during risk times

599
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,100
when the market shifts as you are aware

600
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,700
and market has been performing really well.

601
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,280
But there is times when markets shift and turn negative.

602
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,900
And that's where we believe

603
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:40,360
Schusser's expertise also helps us mitigate

604
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,780
some of that risk as well.

605
00:46:42,740 --> 00:46:45,580
There's also various other funds that the Schusser

606
00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:51,660
advisory firm provides us such as Bidelity Vanguard, American Fund, BlackRock, PIMCO, those

607
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:58,200
various funds that you've heard of in the past. Also the fees when we compare to CalPERS versus

608
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:03,880
Schoesters firm, being that Schoesters has our pension stabilization trust fund as well

609
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:11,600
he's giving the city a considerable discount on the fees as well. And lastly Schoesters firm,

610
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,220
We meet on a quarterly basis, provides us updates on the, not only the financial market,

611
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,380
but our overall portfolio on our pension stabilization, but also, shoots your firm,

612
00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:34,780
also oversees our 457B and 457A and 401B plan, just the various portfolios that staff

613
00:47:34,780 --> 00:47:40,020
can select on those indexes indexes as well, so shoots their provides actually two services

614
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:40,720
for the city.

615
00:47:40,720 --> 00:48:07,780
With that said, ultimately Council, we felt that after our review and analysis that in the long term, it performance in our portfolio in our OPEB will really impact us on the long term if we perform well, we should have a less liability moving forward and really that will help us on our strength in our financial future as well.

616
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:13,220
And so I will turn it over to Mark Schuster for his presentation as well.

617
00:48:18,340 --> 00:48:19,120
Good evening, Council.

618
00:48:20,860 --> 00:48:26,360
First, I wanted to open up to any questions before I go over a handful of slides.

619
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,320
Are there any penalties for leaving the counter system on this on the open?

620
00:48:32,180 --> 00:48:32,640
There are not.

621
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,800
Now I hope I can use your remote and see if it works.

622
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:47,220
Try this again.

623
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:59,010
on button. There we go. I'm going to hit a few slides here in first and foremost. We have

624
00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:05,230
had the opportunity to work with the city for the past 70 years starting off with the

625
00:49:05,230 --> 00:49:12,370
course, the 477 plans of which we inevitably reduce the fees for all of the employees over 93%.

626
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:18,050
And we took over the 115 plans, 70 years ago, and have enhanced the performance dramatically

627
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:23,090
within the Pence and Stabilization, and now wanting to bring that kind of same unified

628
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:30,150
cost structure, and really more importantly, the structure of the 115, and I think it was about a

629
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:35,290
year ago we had a conversation about flexibility. The trust can be customized, the portfolio

630
00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:41,390
can be customized to who the city of El Segundo is. So, our portfolio is allowed that,

631
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:46,390
the

632
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:53,230
three funds for OPEB, two funds, four pens and stabilization, and you can't customize it.

633
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:57,630
And so if there was anything, whether it was the Truster, the Portfolio, that is extremely

634
00:49:57,630 --> 00:49:58,090
critical.

635
00:49:58,410 --> 00:49:59,970
And so that's something that...

636
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,280
We brought to both agencies, cities throughout the state of California, and you can see here, I think,

637
00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:13,460
we're at 117 now that we are working with and bringing this kind of just different perspective

638
00:50:13,460 --> 00:50:20,760
and sophistication to the investment platforms that you all have available. Again, when it comes

639
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:28,220
down to some of the pricing and all of this, I'm going to kind of share with you one more

640
00:50:28,220 --> 00:50:35,380
little piece here. It's really important and here you can see the 11 portfolio but it's not

641
00:50:35,380 --> 00:50:42,740
limited to 11. It could be 20. If again we wanted a certain asset class built within the portfolio

642
00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:50,060
we can build it and again the limitations of the calipers in both the OPEB and in the pension

643
00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:56,580
stabilization. As a reminder, you have your shooting for a discount rate on your OPEB.

644
00:50:56,980 --> 00:51:01,700
That's which your actuary comes up with. And so you look at allocations like a 60-40,

645
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:07,700
a 70-30 and 80-20, so you can beat that hurdle rate along the way. Pension stabilization

646
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:14,520
as you know, it's 6.8 percent. That is the mark that has been put aside by CalPERS.

647
00:51:16,380 --> 00:51:21,420
Again, as Paul mentioned, today CalPERS offers State Street.

648
00:51:22,540 --> 00:51:23,300
It's unlimited.

649
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,740
We use a Schwab wholesale platform that allows us

650
00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:30,440
to go out and buy any type of money manager in the world

651
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,500
that's prudent and that would assist us

652
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:38,280
in building the type of platform for the city of El Cigando.

653
00:51:41,260 --> 00:51:43,180
The fees is Paul mentioned.

654
00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:48,920
We have a pension stabilization that you inevitably saw with the fees were in the reduction there and

655
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:54,430
Evidentably the blended fee was 13 and a half basis points between parrs and

656
00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:01,260
Between calipers and we're doing this for 12 basis points with a complete open-arts of texture platform

657
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:04,110
So a very very low cost when you look at

658
00:52:04,780 --> 00:52:11,180
Full basis points pun 1-8 to 1% for the for the entire platform fee in side

659
00:52:11,980 --> 00:52:16,200
And so with that, just wanted to see if there were any other questions that we can answer.

660
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,240
Not a question, but I think, for example, thank you for the presentation at the finance

661
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,080
subcommittee.

662
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,480
You gave us a lot of detail.

663
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:31,000
But even if you set aside the underperformance and lack of flexibility of calipers, the

664
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,300
reduction in fees alone over a substantial period of time, it sounds like it's going to be pretty

665
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:36,720
astronomical.

666
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:43,260
It's dramatic. I mean, any time you reduce fees out of any compounding asset class, it is substantial,

667
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,440
that clearly occurred with the move from parse, which was close to 60 basis points,

668
00:52:49,540 --> 00:52:54,760
calipers is very inexpensive. They're not expensive, but they're inexpensive because they're so limited

669
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:01,700
into the platform that they offer and thus the work behind finding a fidelity versus a vanguard

670
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,720
versus any other type of fund.

671
00:53:12,730 --> 00:53:13,930
Are we still fully funded on open?

672
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:15,180
We dip just below it.

673
00:53:15,830 --> 00:53:17,190
Do we know how close we are?

674
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,850
This would be the year we do years ago.

675
00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:26,030
We were at...

676
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:28,800
We were a hundred percent.

677
00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:30,920
It depends on the...

678
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,560
I mean, obviously we were right in the lightning a little bit.

679
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,340
But when we do our updated actuaries this year,

680
00:53:38,620 --> 00:53:40,660
we probably get a better idea of what it was.

681
00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:44,340
but from that study of 20, 23, study, it was 55%.

682
00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:47,540
Was that because of the distortion from COVID?

683
00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:51,640
Or, I'm going to say COVID from what I recall reading,

684
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,480
it was just overall performance.

685
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,360
Because I don't know if we were ever 100% mayor,

686
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,860
but I do know that at one point when I looked at it

687
00:53:59,860 --> 00:54:01,980
because they provided chart, it was that 78%

688
00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:05,500
and it was a peak, and then we dropped down to 55%.

689
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,940
We had a, we were at 100% funding,

690
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:12,940
Because that was a, we, you know, broke the champagne on the side of the boat and the whole thing.

691
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,560
The call of Joe and Burbank, and we're going to ask him, I think somebody got transferred.

692
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:21,760
Yeah, that's right.

693
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,880
It's been on waste water.

694
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:28,200
I, you know, there is

695
00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:34,330
a, we will be a hundred.

696
00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:37,810
Yeah, if you capture natural funding costs was the projection piece.

697
00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:38,270
Yeah.

698
00:54:38,270 --> 00:54:40,510
So we'll get their natural contribution and our contribution.

699
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:43,750
So do we have a sense of where we sit on that?

700
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:44,850
Can that metric?

701
00:54:47,060 --> 00:54:47,860
Double-close?

702
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:48,600
Double-close?

703
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,520
Most likely, I can always come back to counts after we do our updated actuarial.

704
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,480
And we've definitely had some part numbers for you.

705
00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:59,960
What I suspect with that point, you'll look at the ASI class.

706
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,200
That's as you want to invest in, too. That would probably govern that, right? Okay.

707
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:10,540
It will govern that mayor and along with your discount rate, because you're looking to beat that hurdle rate going forward, and that is the objective.

708
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:19,100
You have a rate over 6%. And so you'll look at that if you're able to drop that rate that would increase your liability.

709
00:55:19,420 --> 00:55:22,940
And of course, if you increase the rate, it lowers your future liability.

710
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:25,660
Okay.

711
00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:28,400
To have any further questions, just excuse me, me, you can open it.

712
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,180
Move on.

713
00:55:29,340 --> 00:55:30,180
What do you want us to do?

714
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,660
It's a bit like a die-dactic moment here.

715
00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:33,920
All right.

716
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:40,840
With that city attorney, you can take this entire thing in one resolution as well, correct?

717
00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:58,150
Or OPEB, pension 115, trust and minister by a Schuster Advisory Group LLC.

718
00:55:58,530 --> 00:56:02,690
It's ready for adoption along with the other approval of the other items on the agenda.

719
00:56:04,730 --> 00:56:06,290
Who would like to move adoption?

720
00:56:07,070 --> 00:56:09,390
All the innocoments?

721
00:56:09,470 --> 00:56:10,290
All second?

722
00:56:10,550 --> 00:56:11,210
Calendar for the second.

723
00:56:11,330 --> 00:56:11,670
All the favour?

724
00:56:12,350 --> 00:56:12,590
Aye.

725
00:56:13,630 --> 00:56:14,690
All right.

726
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:15,270
Motion passes.

727
00:56:15,390 --> 00:56:16,090
Thank you very much.

728
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:20,840
All right.

729
00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:23,940
We have no committee's commissions and boards here to present.

730
00:56:24,740 --> 00:56:25,880
Report city clerk.

731
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,500
Welcome back, everybody.

732
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,040
Happy 2026.

733
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,600
Happy birthday to council member Drew Boyles.

734
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,580
And that's it?

735
00:56:38,420 --> 00:56:39,060
Councilor Guilder.

736
00:56:39,940 --> 00:56:40,260
Yes.

737
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,540
Happy New Year.

738
00:56:41,540 --> 00:56:48,720
just one thing I do have a request that we agenda is maybe not the next meeting but it's

739
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:54,020
some and some point in the future a conversation about Hyperion a summary so I haven't

740
00:56:54,740 --> 00:57:01,120
been on council since the last time it was discussed and I think with the mosquito issue

741
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:06,860
you know there are some things that I would love a sense of I know we've had plant management

742
00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:09,080
in GM management, just to summary of that,

743
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,740
maybe staff hours spent last year dealing with them.

744
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,860
And we can talk, I'm happy to talk about that in our one-on-one,

745
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,940
or right now, don't know if anybody else feels similarly,

746
00:57:23,740 --> 00:57:25,780
just to recap of where we are.

747
00:57:30,180 --> 00:57:32,820
Keltra, Drew, nothing for me.

748
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:35,920
Mayor Pertum.

749
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,100
I just want to point out to everyone

750
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:41,400
that items seven to consent was an award of contracts

751
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,960
to make much need repairs at the fence post at REC Park, so thank you to public works for

752
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,480
getting that moving. That's going to make a big difference out there as far as just the

753
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:56,600
safety of the planning and the playing fields out there. And this is just one small piece of the

754
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,620
much larger public works that we've got lined up for the city. So the more we can continue to get

755
00:58:01,620 --> 00:58:07,120
these done and better maintain our fields the better off will be. So thank you.

756
00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:10,090
Thank you Mayor

757
00:58:10,090 --> 00:58:16,870
program. Coming to the start of this year, Metro will be the Metro Board will be hearing

758
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:22,650
the sea line extension on the 23rd. If anyone wants to dial in, wave your arms, I have

759
00:58:22,650 --> 00:58:29,290
my own concerns about spending $4 billion on four miles of track, which comes out to a very

760
00:58:29,290 --> 00:58:35,930
expensive track per foot. But so that's not 23rd and people that is that is $4 billion

761
00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:42,110
of your tax dollars and depending on where you drive or try to drive that could, depending

762
00:58:42,110 --> 00:58:46,310
what the recommendation is that could turn Hawthorne Boulevard into a very long construction

763
00:58:46,310 --> 00:58:46,910
project.

764
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:50,770
So worth tuning in if you have time on your Thursday morning.

765
00:58:51,170 --> 00:58:55,110
Also on Thursdays the first meeting of League of Cities Taxation Committee, more exciting

766
00:58:55,110 --> 00:58:56,410
stuff on sales tax.

767
00:58:56,590 --> 00:59:00,930
We will all argue over who she could pay for Amazon, sales tax, and we will come to know

768
00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:01,270
resolution.

769
00:59:02,090 --> 00:59:10,010
Council of Mayors is next week. We'll be meeting with the Department of the Air Force to talk about the Air Force base and the importance to the area.

770
00:59:11,170 --> 00:59:17,310
And also the sanitation meetings, I know they'll be excited if you're updates. I won't tease you with what's agendas for coming up.

771
00:59:18,010 --> 00:59:26,270
And yeah, we have the first two meetings on that for the year and some of that will deal with the clear water project that is running the tunnels all the way to how to.

772
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:38,730
P.V., that's been delayed by a cave in and we'll get a report on what the likelihood of any litigation about that is, I think our position is broadly that this is something that is only the liability of the contractor.

773
00:59:40,090 --> 00:59:41,150
And that's all for me, City Attorney.

774
00:59:42,490 --> 00:59:43,090
How do you see me?

775
00:59:43,770 --> 00:59:51,150
At the next meeting, I will come forward with an overview for the public to counsel on the legislation from 2025.

776
00:59:51,450 --> 00:59:54,450
It's just now taking effect or will be taking effect this year.

777
00:59:56,790 --> 00:59:59,970
Very well, city manager. Yes, man. Thank you. I uh

778
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,360
Actually, I wanted, I was hoping to introduce our new fire chief, fire action. He's not even here now.

779
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,180
Chief Ali, I know I individually, I shared with you that he was promoted from division chief to our new fire chief.

780
01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:25,340
And so his first official comments came tonight and we will be preparing a press release and so forth about his taking over the fire chief role.

781
01:00:25,340 --> 01:00:30,780
really excited about working with him as I know the rest of the executive team is.

782
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:38,780
Also, the mosquito issue was appreciative of thank you allies for inviting the executive

783
01:00:38,780 --> 01:00:40,320
director of the vector control.

784
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,960
He gave a really good update.

785
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:48,480
I also want to thank Elias and Becky for working over the weekend, the long weekend,

786
01:00:48,740 --> 01:00:55,040
to ensure that vector control was coordinated with Hyperion and that we were also current

787
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,440
on our website and all of our social media platforms,

788
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,200
letting the community know what was going on.

789
01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:01,480
We will continue to do that.

790
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,900
The phone numbers are all, have been posted,

791
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,620
and will continue to update them as new information comes

792
01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:09,960
as the test results come from vector control.

793
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:15,180
And thankfully, Hyperion is very cooperative, finally,

794
01:01:15,380 --> 01:01:17,720
on terms of assessing the situation,

795
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,640
and working with vector control to debate the problem.

796
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:30,080
And then also, Council Member Kelldoff, and with regards to Hyperion, yes, there's a whole new team

797
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,120
starting with the Mayor Bass's office.

798
01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:41,540
There's a new deputy public works director that we've actually already contacted with.

799
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:46,800
There's a person on to him now that works in a new role.

800
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:53,900
is also an interim general manager for the sanitation district that's on board, so there

801
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:58,020
are a lot of new people, we've scheduled meetings with each of them over the next couple

802
01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:05,880
weeks, and to stay abreast of what's going on with the ski notes, as well as all the other

803
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,780
issues that you bring up and to be happy to report to you either in the water, water, bring it

804
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:15,960
bring it to council to give a comprehensive overview of where things are, because there are always

805
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,260
changing there.

806
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:25,180
H-U-M-B is a, as you know, I report on the number of order complaints we had 24

807
01:02:25,180 --> 01:02:32,360
order complaints since December 15th and H-U-M-B staff does continue to respond

808
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:38,340
to these and some of the routine maintenance matters that I period is undertaking

809
01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:49,220
and then finally on December 30th and 31st Hyperion did conducted semi-annual audit of its

810
01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:55,480
fence line monitoring equipment and during that time the systems were down for approximately

811
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:02,140
three to four hours just in case folks were seeing some no results during that time.

812
01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:07,480
And that completes my report, thank you.

813
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:14,240
Thank you, City Manager, and before we adjourn today, I think it's worth noting, there's

814
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,680
a lot of things that make El Segundo work really, really well, and I think broadly, you know,

815
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:24,940
there's cultural things that we do with our similar, but inside that, we have cast of characters.

816
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:31,460
And early at the start of this year, we've lost two significant characters, the first Steve

817
01:03:31,460 --> 01:03:35,080
and long time resident, long time park vista resident,

818
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,960
sort of your classic Elzagando, USC UCLA Guy,

819
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,540
who would then light you up with the most

820
01:03:43,540 --> 01:03:47,180
incisive dissection of park vista rent increases

821
01:03:47,180 --> 01:03:49,140
that you could possibly read.

822
01:03:49,340 --> 01:03:52,800
That only a huge engineer could put together for you.

823
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,480
And if any of you saw his self-written obituary

824
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,700
in the Harold, it was just a delight to read

825
01:03:58,700 --> 01:04:06,460
and a hundred percent on brand for Steve who his very dry, well-received humor is something

826
01:04:06,460 --> 01:04:14,780
movements. And similarly, more in our age corporate, we lost Ron Beltramo, very young, very

827
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:20,940
suddenly to all of us. Ron was a sort of consummate character. We had kids at Eagles Nest at the

828
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:25,680
same time. It would casually bully you aside and say, we're having a birthday party. It's in

829
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,900
and I have a lot of fish and you would say, Ron,

830
01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:30,780
I didn't know you live in Playa Del Rey and he would say

831
01:04:30,780 --> 01:04:33,260
it's not my house and it's not my fish,

832
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,820
but the kids are gonna love to sushi.

833
01:04:36,460 --> 01:04:38,980
Ron and Beth, I think, taught half of this city

834
01:04:38,980 --> 01:04:40,940
how to scuba dive with their shop.

835
01:04:41,620 --> 01:04:43,200
Their children are an absolute delight.

836
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,760
He much like Steve was fixated

837
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:46,940
on the rates at Bart Fista.

838
01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:49,620
Ron could tell you exactly how he screwed up

839
01:04:49,620 --> 01:04:52,100
oversized vehicle parking because no one was more

840
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,560
of a champion of the Sprinter van than Ron Beltromo.

841
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,980
So we lost them both to be young. We miss them dearly if they are part of the characters that make the city so

842
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,760
So enjoyable, and all the things that it does, and we will adjourn in their honor.