1
00:00:04,933 --> 00:00:05,233
>> All right,

2
00:00:05,233 --> 00:00:06,367
we're settled in. Good evening,

3
00:00:06,367 --> 00:00:09,670
everyone. How we doing? Are you

4
00:00:09,670 --> 00:00:11,267
having an exciting discussion

5
00:00:11,267 --> 00:00:13,867
about our General Plan? Well,

6
00:00:13,867 --> 00:00:15,867
welcome. Let's first

7
00:00:16,330 --> 00:00:17,233
of all call this meeting

8
00:00:17,233 --> 00:00:18,133
to order,

9
00:00:18,133 --> 00:00:18,933
a special joint meeting

10
00:00:18,933 --> 00:00:20,767
of the City Council and the

11
00:00:20,767 --> 00:00:21,800
Planning Commission,

12
00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,800
Thursday, December 17, 2015

13
00:00:23,833 --> 00:00:26,267
at 6:03 P.M. And let's maybe

14
00:00:26,267 --> 00:00:27,267
start with the role. This ought

15
00:00:27,267 --> 00:00:28,300
to be fun.

16
00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:28,867
>> For the role call,

17
00:00:28,867 --> 00:00:29,833
we'll actually start with the

18
00:00:29,833 --> 00:00:30,767
Planning Commissioners.

19
00:00:30,767 --> 00:00:31,600
Commissioner Tong?

20
00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,633
>> Here.

21
00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:34,633
>> Commissioner Spease?

22
00:00:34,967 --> 00:00:35,600
>> Here.

23
00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,500
>> Commissioner Maita?

24
00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:37,267
>> Present.

25
00:00:37,267 --> 00:00:38,133
>> Commissioner Harris is

26
00:00:38,133 --> 00:00:38,900
absent, and Commissioner

27
00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:40,133
Murphy?

28
00:00:40,133 --> 00:00:40,733
>> Here.

29
00:00:40,733 --> 00:00:42,100
>> And for the City Council,

30
00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:42,567
Councilmember Suen?

31
00:00:42,567 --> 00:00:44,133
>> Here.

32
00:00:44,133 --> 00:00:45,330
>> Councilmember Hume?

33
00:00:45,330 --> 00:00:45,567
>> Here.

34
00:00:45,567 --> 00:00:46,267
>> Councilmember Detrick?

35
00:00:46,267 --> 00:00:46,800
>> Here.

36
00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,467
>> Vice Mayor Lee?

37
00:00:47,467 --> 00:00:48,670
>> Here.

38
00:00:48,670 --> 00:00:48,767
>> And Mayor Davis?

39
00:00:48,767 --> 00:00:50,100
>> Here.

40
00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:50,867
>> I'd like to ask maybe the

41
00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:51,633
Chair of the Planning

42
00:00:51,633 --> 00:00:52,433
Commission to lead us in the

43
00:00:52,433 --> 00:00:54,833
Pledge of Allegiance, please.

44
00:00:55,900 --> 00:00:56,900
>> Will everyone stand? Hand

45
00:00:56,900 --> 00:00:57,867
over heart,

46
00:00:57,867 --> 00:00:58,667
pledge.

47
00:00:58,667 --> 00:00:59,233
>> I pledge allegiance

48
00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:00,873
to the flag of the United

49
00:01:00,873 --> 00:01:02,973
States of America and to the

50
00:01:02,973 --> 00:01:04,940
Republic for which it stands,

51
00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:07,730
one nation under God,

52
00:01:07,730 --> 00:01:07,807
indivisible,

53
00:01:07,807 --> 00:01:09,640
with liberty and justice

54
00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,640
for all.

55
00:01:16,207 --> 00:01:16,973
>> Great, thanks very much. I

56
00:01:16,973 --> 00:01:17,740
think this is going

57
00:01:17,740 --> 00:01:18,907
to be an exciting workshop.

58
00:01:18,907 --> 00:01:19,973
Obviously, any time we can get

59
00:01:19,973 --> 00:01:21,773
the Planning Commission and the

60
00:01:21,773 --> 00:01:22,473
Council together

61
00:01:22,473 --> 00:01:24,673
with the community to talk

62
00:01:24,673 --> 00:01:25,973
about anything is exciting.

63
00:01:25,973 --> 00:01:27,773
But really to check in on our

64
00:01:27,773 --> 00:01:29,307
General Plan and have a

65
00:01:29,307 --> 00:01:30,440
workshop around that,

66
00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,640
certainly is going

67
00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,640
to be a productive use

68
00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,407
of our time. So I'm excited

69
00:01:33,407 --> 00:01:36,573
about it. We do have a formal

70
00:01:36,573 --> 00:01:38,400
agenda in front of us,

71
00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,107
so maybe we'll just jump right

72
00:01:39,107 --> 00:01:41,700
in and look for--I'd like

73
00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:42,673
to entertain a motion to

74
00:01:42,673 --> 00:01:43,607
approve the agenda.

75
00:01:43,607 --> 00:01:44,773
>> I move it.

76
00:01:44,773 --> 00:01:45,573
>> Second.

77
00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:46,440
>> Motion by Lee, second by

78
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,840
Suen. All right. All

79
00:01:49,173 --> 00:01:50,107
in favor?

80
00:01:50,107 --> 00:01:51,140
>> Aye.

81
00:01:51,140 --> 00:01:52,640
>> Opposed? Abstentions?

82
00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,473
Great, okay. So we've got one

83
00:01:54,473 --> 00:01:58,730
item in front of us tonight,

84
00:01:58,273 --> 00:01:58,740
and who's going

85
00:01:58,740 --> 00:02:01,140
to kick us off?

86
00:02:04,713 --> 00:02:05,313
>> Good evening, Mayor,

87
00:02:05,313 --> 00:02:06,800
Council, and Commission

88
00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:06,947
Members. Christopher Jordan

89
00:02:06,947 --> 00:02:07,680
with the City Manager's

90
00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,180
Office. Thank you so much for

91
00:02:08,180 --> 00:02:10,800
giving us your time this

92
00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,313
evening for this item and

93
00:02:11,313 --> 00:02:13,247
for all sitting up there with

94
00:02:13,247 --> 00:02:15,780
us low types. I very much

95
00:02:15,780 --> 00:02:17,280
appreciate it. So tonight,

96
00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,130
we're going to be talking

97
00:02:18,130 --> 00:02:19,213
about the General Plan update.

98
00:02:19,213 --> 00:02:20,947
This is a check-in opportunity

99
00:02:20,947 --> 00:02:22,713
for where we've been

100
00:02:22,713 --> 00:02:24,613
since we were last with you

101
00:02:24,613 --> 00:02:26,130
in June and initially scoping

102
00:02:26,130 --> 00:02:26,713
the project. We do have some

103
00:02:26,713 --> 00:02:27,913
initial -- to share

104
00:02:27,913 --> 00:02:29,547
with you and get your feedback

105
00:02:29,547 --> 00:02:31,147
and further direction upon

106
00:02:31,147 --> 00:02:31,980
to move into the next phase

107
00:02:31,980 --> 00:02:34,747
in the new year. So our agenda

108
00:02:34,747 --> 00:02:36,713
tonight in the updates,

109
00:02:36,713 --> 00:02:37,313
we're going to go

110
00:02:37,313 --> 00:02:38,780
through some finer points of

111
00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:40,347
the status and the outreach

112
00:02:40,347 --> 00:02:41,913
that's been conducted and what

113
00:02:41,913 --> 00:02:42,647
we've been hearing

114
00:02:42,647 --> 00:02:43,280
from the community,

115
00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,470
from the residents,

116
00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:45,880
from interested parties through

117
00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,113
the engagement activities.

118
00:02:47,113 --> 00:02:47,947
It's been a very

119
00:02:47,947 --> 00:02:49,980
in-depth--we've had a very

120
00:02:49,980 --> 00:02:51,347
broad cross-section

121
00:02:51,347 --> 00:02:52,613
of community engaged

122
00:02:52,613 --> 00:02:53,913
through our mobile workshops,

123
00:02:53,913 --> 00:02:55,747
through the weekend workshops

124
00:02:55,747 --> 00:02:58,470
that we held, I think, in

125
00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:59,213
September and November, and we

126
00:02:59,213 --> 00:03:00,687
also have a lot more planned in

127
00:03:00,687 --> 00:03:01,953
the new year as we start

128
00:03:01,953 --> 00:03:03,220
getting into the deeper policy

129
00:03:03,220 --> 00:03:04,920
conversations. And we'll be

130
00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:06,120
highlighting some

131
00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,153
of those pieces

132
00:03:07,153 --> 00:03:08,153
for you later this evening.

133
00:03:08,153 --> 00:03:09,253
The next half

134
00:03:09,253 --> 00:03:10,253
of the presentation,

135
00:03:10,253 --> 00:03:11,187
the second half is going

136
00:03:11,187 --> 00:03:11,987
to be talking

137
00:03:11,987 --> 00:03:12,687
about the vision, that's the

138
00:03:12,687 --> 00:03:13,320
document,

139
00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,853
the booklet that you got

140
00:03:14,853 --> 00:03:15,587
in your packet that you have up

141
00:03:15,587 --> 00:03:16,253
on the -- this

142
00:03:16,253 --> 00:03:17,220
evening. We do have additional

143
00:03:17,220 --> 00:03:18,153
copies for the public

144
00:03:18,153 --> 00:03:19,487
in the back of the room. If any

145
00:03:19,487 --> 00:03:20,687
of you don't have hard copies,

146
00:03:20,687 --> 00:03:21,520
we can certainly get them

147
00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,453
to you. I want to really

148
00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:24,587
highlight and stress the

149
00:03:24,587 --> 00:03:27,870
importance of this. And there's

150
00:03:27,870 --> 00:03:28,870
an analogy here I'll try

151
00:03:28,870 --> 00:03:30,200
to use very briefly. This

152
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,753
process of creating the

153
00:03:31,753 --> 00:03:32,287
General Plan is

154
00:03:32,287 --> 00:03:33,487
about setting a direction,

155
00:03:33,487 --> 00:03:34,220
where is it that we're going as

156
00:03:34,220 --> 00:03:35,920
a community. I sort

157
00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,153
of liken it to at the vision

158
00:03:37,153 --> 00:03:38,487
level we're deciding we're

159
00:03:38,487 --> 00:03:40,387
going to travel East. We're

160
00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:42,200
going to the East Coast, we're

161
00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,787
going to drive there. The

162
00:03:42,787 --> 00:03:44,120
policies get

163
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,520
into how we get there,

164
00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,220
what roads we're taking,

165
00:03:47,220 --> 00:03:48,287
what modes of transportation.

166
00:03:48,287 --> 00:03:49,420
So we want

167
00:03:49,420 --> 00:03:50,320
to make sure that we're all

168
00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,120
on the same page, that we're

169
00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,853
going eastward or whatever that

170
00:03:52,853 --> 00:03:54,620
direction is. And to the policy

171
00:03:54,620 --> 00:03:56,870
conversations that we're going

172
00:03:56,870 --> 00:03:57,353
to have in the first half

173
00:03:57,353 --> 00:03:58,787
of next year, we're deciding

174
00:03:58,787 --> 00:04:00,193
what routes we get there and

175
00:04:00,193 --> 00:04:01,660
whether we're going to say

176
00:04:01,660 --> 00:04:04,593
Boston or Miami. So this is a

177
00:04:04,593 --> 00:04:05,727
critical point

178
00:04:05,727 --> 00:04:07,160
in understanding that we're all

179
00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:07,960
on the same page, we're all

180
00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,927
holding hands together and

181
00:04:08,927 --> 00:04:10,270
understanding it. The finer

182
00:04:10,270 --> 00:04:11,727
details of what that direction

183
00:04:11,727 --> 00:04:13,127
means and how it's implemented

184
00:04:13,127 --> 00:04:14,260
on the ground

185
00:04:14,260 --> 00:04:15,627
through development projects,

186
00:04:15,627 --> 00:04:17,527
city actions, coordination

187
00:04:17,527 --> 00:04:19,693
with outside service providers,

188
00:04:19,693 --> 00:04:21,427
other things that happen, those

189
00:04:21,427 --> 00:04:22,593
will be the critical decisions

190
00:04:22,593 --> 00:04:23,893
going forward. So this is an

191
00:04:23,893 --> 00:04:25,327
important first step

192
00:04:25,327 --> 00:04:26,160
in the preparation

193
00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,560
of the overall General Plan.

194
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,293
We'll have opportunities

195
00:04:29,293 --> 00:04:30,760
to walk through the documents

196
00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,793
and how we got there

197
00:04:31,793 --> 00:04:33,327
at a staff perspective,

198
00:04:33,327 --> 00:04:34,930
why we're recommending this

199
00:04:34,930 --> 00:04:35,260
to you this evening,

200
00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:36,270
and then opportunity

201
00:04:36,270 --> 00:04:37,930
for further public comment

202
00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:38,270
on it. And then seeking

203
00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:38,893
direction

204
00:04:38,893 --> 00:04:39,960
from you--did we get it right,

205
00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,460
are we on the same page,

206
00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:43,127
or what changes should be make

207
00:04:43,127 --> 00:04:44,160
to this as we move forward

208
00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,760
into the new year. This real

209
00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,527
briefly, primarily

210
00:04:47,527 --> 00:04:48,660
for the audience

211
00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:50,127
of folks that are joining us,

212
00:04:50,127 --> 00:04:51,493
we'll obviously be posting the

213
00:04:51,493 --> 00:04:53,660
audio to the websites early

214
00:04:53,660 --> 00:04:54,960
next week so others can take

215
00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,327
advantage of it. The General

216
00:04:56,327 --> 00:04:58,600
Plan, as it exists today,

217
00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,693
was first adopted in 2003.

218
00:04:59,693 --> 00:05:00,700
There have been a number

219
00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:01,667
of amendments the City has done

220
00:05:01,667 --> 00:05:02,800
to it over the following 13

221
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,800
years. Many

222
00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:06,800
of them developer-initiated or,

223
00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,330
obviously, city-initiated

224
00:05:08,330 --> 00:05:09,333
for various topics, some

225
00:05:09,333 --> 00:05:10,500
on the land use side, some

226
00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:11,833
for various policies like our

227
00:05:11,833 --> 00:05:13,667
sustainability element. There

228
00:05:13,667 --> 00:05:15,000
are some upcoming amendments

229
00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,867
that are already in process,

230
00:05:16,867 --> 00:05:17,667
like the safety element update

231
00:05:17,667 --> 00:05:19,367
dealing with 200-year flood

232
00:05:19,367 --> 00:05:20,533
plan requirements

233
00:05:20,533 --> 00:05:21,967
of the state. And there's other

234
00:05:21,967 --> 00:05:23,200
changes that have occurred in

235
00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,600
the broader law or regulatory

236
00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,733
framework that we need

237
00:05:25,733 --> 00:05:26,400
to take advantage

238
00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,233
of and really address

239
00:05:27,233 --> 00:05:28,867
in an updated General Plan.

240
00:05:28,867 --> 00:05:31,467
These are the elements or

241
00:05:31,467 --> 00:05:32,667
chapters or components

242
00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:35,400
of your existing General Plan.

243
00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,300
I think it's about 9 or 11

244
00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:37,670
in all. Some

245
00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:37,900
of these are required

246
00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:39,267
components under state law,

247
00:05:39,267 --> 00:05:40,733
like circulation, land use,

248
00:05:40,733 --> 00:05:42,900
housing. Others are optional

249
00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:44,200
elements or things that we've

250
00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,167
chosen as a community

251
00:05:45,167 --> 00:05:46,233
to include, such as: historic

252
00:05:46,233 --> 00:05:47,500
preservation, economic

253
00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:48,200
development,

254
00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,900
and sustainability. What format

255
00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:51,100
the General Plan takes

256
00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:53,433
in its newer version,

257
00:05:53,433 --> 00:05:54,467
the new edition that will come

258
00:05:54,467 --> 00:05:56,167
out of this process,

259
00:05:56,167 --> 00:05:57,333
whether it's an existing format

260
00:05:57,333 --> 00:05:58,433
of the elements as individual

261
00:05:58,433 --> 00:06:00,833
chapters or those element

262
00:06:00,940 --> 00:06:02,273
requirements broken up into

263
00:06:02,273 --> 00:06:04,707
clusters based upon the key

264
00:06:04,707 --> 00:06:07,107
topics -- embedded and

265
00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:15,207
explored so that we package

266
00:06:15,207 --> 00:06:17,373
this thing in ultimately a

267
00:06:17,373 --> 00:06:18,740
format that is user-friendly,

268
00:06:18,740 --> 00:06:19,440
that really responds

269
00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,907
to the interest

270
00:06:20,907 --> 00:06:22,700
of the community, which is one

271
00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:23,700
of the central tenents you gave

272
00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:23,707
us

273
00:06:23,707 --> 00:06:24,773
in initiating this process back

274
00:06:24,773 --> 00:06:26,240
in June. You asked

275
00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,373
for an up-to-date,

276
00:06:27,373 --> 00:06:28,240
forward-thinking plan--what is

277
00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,240
the next 15, 20, 25 years

278
00:06:31,730 --> 00:06:32,840
of the City look like--to make

279
00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,140
the document something that the

280
00:06:34,140 --> 00:06:35,340
average resident can pick up

281
00:06:35,340 --> 00:06:36,540
and understand and really be

282
00:06:36,540 --> 00:06:38,240
able to see what the

283
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,173
community's vision is

284
00:06:39,173 --> 00:06:40,140
for itself in the future and

285
00:06:40,140 --> 00:06:41,873
how we're going to get there.

286
00:06:41,873 --> 00:06:43,140
It needs

287
00:06:43,140 --> 00:06:44,540
to be clear and understandable

288
00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:46,400
but also flexible to changing

289
00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,207
circumstances that exist. It

290
00:06:47,207 --> 00:06:49,607
ought to be based upon active

291
00:06:49,607 --> 00:06:51,240
and an engaged community, which

292
00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,273
is what we have been striving

293
00:06:52,273 --> 00:06:53,240
to do through these outreach

294
00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:53,807
opportunities the last several

295
00:06:53,807 --> 00:06:55,507
months and will continue

296
00:06:55,507 --> 00:06:56,473
to do all the way through the

297
00:06:56,473 --> 00:06:58,540
adoption process slated for

298
00:06:58,540 --> 00:07:01,540
2017. We are engaging not only

299
00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:02,880
the staff level but also

300
00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,180
with the decisionmakers,

301
00:07:04,180 --> 00:07:05,147
the ten of you or nine that are

302
00:07:05,147 --> 00:07:05,847
here this evening,

303
00:07:05,847 --> 00:07:07,580
through this process to make

304
00:07:07,580 --> 00:07:08,713
sure we're understanding is and

305
00:07:08,713 --> 00:07:11,180
how to articulate these things

306
00:07:11,180 --> 00:07:13,180
appropriately. And finally,

307
00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,713
and also very importantly, that

308
00:07:15,713 --> 00:07:17,447
it's a fiscally viable plan.

309
00:07:17,447 --> 00:07:19,347
Is this plan and the vision and

310
00:07:19,347 --> 00:07:20,813
the goals that it's setting

311
00:07:20,813 --> 00:07:22,480
out something that we can live

312
00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,280
with in our financial means

313
00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,280
to achieve. So real briefly

314
00:07:26,713 --> 00:07:27,913
on the status, and we'll get

315
00:07:27,913 --> 00:07:28,513
into some

316
00:07:28,513 --> 00:07:29,380
of these detail points

317
00:07:29,380 --> 00:07:30,747
in a little bit. There's an

318
00:07:30,747 --> 00:07:31,880
Existing Conditions report that

319
00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,480
documents where the City is

320
00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,280
today. We did one

321
00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,613
of these back in 2003

322
00:07:35,613 --> 00:07:37,213
with the original General

323
00:07:37,213 --> 00:07:38,613
Plan, so we're updating it. It

324
00:07:38,613 --> 00:07:40,147
reflects newer regulations,

325
00:07:40,147 --> 00:07:42,470
state law components,

326
00:07:42,470 --> 00:07:43,313
and existing status of the

327
00:07:43,313 --> 00:07:44,547
City. That report will be

328
00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:46,213
coming out in the new year

329
00:07:46,213 --> 00:07:47,413
for the public to review, and

330
00:07:47,413 --> 00:07:48,647
ultimately would be an appendix

331
00:07:48,647 --> 00:07:50,147
to the General Plan, informing

332
00:07:50,147 --> 00:07:50,947
how we got

333
00:07:50,947 --> 00:07:51,947
to where we would be

334
00:07:51,947 --> 00:07:53,647
in the new document. Through

335
00:07:53,647 --> 00:07:54,813
the community engagements,

336
00:07:54,813 --> 00:07:55,647
we've been working since

337
00:07:55,647 --> 00:07:56,613
August on a variety

338
00:07:56,613 --> 00:07:57,447
of aspects. You'll hear

339
00:07:57,447 --> 00:07:59,247
about those later this evening.

340
00:07:59,247 --> 00:07:59,887
That outreach, again,

341
00:07:59,887 --> 00:08:00,787
will continue through

342
00:08:00,787 --> 00:08:01,220
into the ultimate adoption in

343
00:08:01,220 --> 00:08:04,220
2017. And tonight we have this

344
00:08:05,187 --> 00:08:06,953
draft shared community vision

345
00:08:06,953 --> 00:08:08,253
and supporting principles.

346
00:08:08,253 --> 00:08:09,253
This is the outgrowth

347
00:08:09,253 --> 00:08:10,153
of the outreach,

348
00:08:10,153 --> 00:08:11,187
what we've been hearing today,

349
00:08:11,187 --> 00:08:12,487
and what we're understanding

350
00:08:12,487 --> 00:08:14,353
and trying to vet this evening

351
00:08:14,353 --> 00:08:15,853
and get final direction on,

352
00:08:15,853 --> 00:08:17,200
that this is ultimately where

353
00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,753
we are trying to go. That being

354
00:08:19,753 --> 00:08:21,387
said, if we get through, let's

355
00:08:21,387 --> 00:08:22,420
say, the next six months

356
00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:24,120
of policy direction, policy

357
00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,520
discussion, land use

358
00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,187
discussion,

359
00:08:27,187 --> 00:08:28,220
and we're analyzing things back

360
00:08:28,220 --> 00:08:29,553
to this vision statement, back

361
00:08:29,553 --> 00:08:30,753
to the supporting principles

362
00:08:30,753 --> 00:08:32,620
for consistency and a tweak is

363
00:08:32,620 --> 00:08:33,387
needed,

364
00:08:33,387 --> 00:08:34,987
we can certainly do that. This

365
00:08:34,987 --> 00:08:36,530
isn't something that is set

366
00:08:36,530 --> 00:08:36,420
in stone. Tonight,

367
00:08:36,420 --> 00:08:38,353
with your direction, it's

368
00:08:38,353 --> 00:08:39,353
something that could be

369
00:08:39,353 --> 00:08:40,520
massaged going forward as we

370
00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,453
have these further

371
00:08:41,453 --> 00:08:43,420
conversations. That's okay. But

372
00:08:43,420 --> 00:08:44,587
it's important that we have a

373
00:08:44,587 --> 00:08:45,687
starting point for the

374
00:08:45,687 --> 00:08:47,687
conversations going forward.

375
00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,720
As I've mentioned,

376
00:08:50,153 --> 00:08:51,420
the ultimate goal is adoption

377
00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:53,200
in 2017. So you can see where

378
00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,120
we are in that process,

379
00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,320
we're right on schedule

380
00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,787
with the Conditions report and

381
00:08:56,787 --> 00:08:57,987
the Visioning Workshop hasn't

382
00:08:57,987 --> 00:08:59,960
been completed. And some of the

383
00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,560
key issues and policy topics,

384
00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:03,427
we're beginning to,

385
00:09:03,427 --> 00:09:05,193
starting next month actually,

386
00:09:05,193 --> 00:09:06,327
we'll get

387
00:09:06,327 --> 00:09:08,160
into those policy pieces. The

388
00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,627
goal is to have a draft

389
00:09:09,627 --> 00:09:10,593
General Plan and the EIR

390
00:09:10,593 --> 00:09:12,493
released at

391
00:09:12,493 --> 00:09:14,127
about this time next year. So

392
00:09:14,127 --> 00:09:15,660
we've got quite a ways to go

393
00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:16,660
in the next 12 months

394
00:09:16,660 --> 00:09:17,793
to get there. And ultimately,

395
00:09:17,793 --> 00:09:19,627
into adoption, spring,

396
00:09:19,627 --> 00:09:22,460
early part of summer of 2017.

397
00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:24,760
So there's several folks with

398
00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:25,960
me here this evening that will

399
00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,600
be presenting various pieces:

400
00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,930
Jeff Henderson, the overall

401
00:09:28,930 --> 00:09:29,527
project manager, Sara

402
00:09:29,527 --> 00:09:31,930
Allender, the assistant

403
00:09:31,930 --> 00:09:32,593
manager, and Nora De Cuir, the

404
00:09:32,593 --> 00:09:33,893
outreach coordinator. So I'll

405
00:09:33,893 --> 00:09:34,993
turn it over to them to walk

406
00:09:34,993 --> 00:09:35,193
through some

407
00:09:35,193 --> 00:09:38,793
of these pieces now. Thank you.

408
00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:45,227
>> Good evening, Council,

409
00:09:45,227 --> 00:09:46,593
Commissioners. I'm Nora De

410
00:09:46,593 --> 00:09:47,893
Cuir, an outreach coordinator

411
00:09:47,893 --> 00:09:49,727
with the General Plan team.

412
00:09:49,727 --> 00:09:51,293
And I want to take you

413
00:09:51,293 --> 00:09:53,427
through just a refresher

414
00:09:53,427 --> 00:09:55,227
of where we've been thus far

415
00:09:55,227 --> 00:09:56,560
with our community engagement

416
00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:58,930
program. I know many

417
00:09:58,930 --> 00:10:00,193
of you have caught us either

418
00:10:00,193 --> 00:10:03,930
at a workshop or out at one of

419
00:10:03,930 --> 00:10:04,427
mobile studios that we've been

420
00:10:04,427 --> 00:10:07,227
conducting. So as you can see

421
00:10:07,227 --> 00:10:09,860
from the graphic that you have

422
00:10:09,860 --> 00:10:10,893
in front of you, we kicked off

423
00:10:10,893 --> 00:10:12,693
with a planning academy,

424
00:10:12,693 --> 00:10:14,600
which is a focus event

425
00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,460
to provide additional context

426
00:10:17,293 --> 00:10:18,193
to set the stage

427
00:10:18,193 --> 00:10:19,393
for the community in terms of

428
00:10:19,393 --> 00:10:20,927
what a general plan is and why

429
00:10:20,927 --> 00:10:22,227
it's important

430
00:10:22,227 --> 00:10:23,227
for our future. It's hard

431
00:10:23,227 --> 00:10:25,627
to want to engage in a topic as

432
00:10:25,627 --> 00:10:28,160
broad as the general plan for

433
00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,693
your community if you don't

434
00:10:30,693 --> 00:10:31,493
have a sense

435
00:10:31,493 --> 00:10:32,693
of how that relates

436
00:10:32,693 --> 00:10:34,727
to local governance as a whole.

437
00:10:34,727 --> 00:10:35,993
So the planning academy was

438
00:10:35,993 --> 00:10:37,600
intended to provide not only

439
00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,427
in person

440
00:10:38,427 --> 00:10:39,993
for folks who attended that

441
00:10:39,993 --> 00:10:40,827
on that Saturday morning,

442
00:10:40,827 --> 00:10:41,493
but also

443
00:10:41,493 --> 00:10:42,860
to have those materials online

444
00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:44,793
for people who are digging in

445
00:10:44,793 --> 00:10:46,360
to the General Plan and want a

446
00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,527
little bit of that context. So

447
00:10:48,527 --> 00:10:49,760
we moved from there

448
00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,660
into events that went out into

449
00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:52,727
the community and brought

450
00:10:52,727 --> 00:10:54,927
essentially a mini workshop

451
00:10:54,927 --> 00:10:57,893
in a doublewide tent to events

452
00:10:57,893 --> 00:10:58,893
where people were already

453
00:10:58,893 --> 00:10:59,767
gathering, like the Dickens

454
00:10:59,767 --> 00:11:01,900
Fair and the Safety Fair and

455
00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:04,167
Food Truck Mania. And what our

456
00:11:04,167 --> 00:11:06,933
experience has shown us and has

457
00:11:06,933 --> 00:11:08,733
really proven true throughout

458
00:11:08,733 --> 00:11:09,267
the course

459
00:11:09,267 --> 00:11:11,333
of this outreach effort since

460
00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:13,200
August is that while a

461
00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,567
community workshop is a great

462
00:11:15,567 --> 00:11:16,900
forum for sitting down

463
00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:19,333
with a focused group of folks

464
00:11:19,333 --> 00:11:20,833
and rolling up your sleeves

465
00:11:20,833 --> 00:11:22,670
to work on something, you can

466
00:11:22,670 --> 00:11:24,333
reach more people just

467
00:11:24,333 --> 00:11:26,333
numbers-wise if you are going

468
00:11:26,333 --> 00:11:28,167
out where folks are already

469
00:11:28,167 --> 00:11:29,800
gathering and they don't need

470
00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,300
to think about scheduling

471
00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:33,200
in that workshop on their

472
00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,733
calendar or taking too much

473
00:11:35,733 --> 00:11:36,500
time out

474
00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:38,200
of a busy weekend morning

475
00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,167
to attend. So the mobile

476
00:11:40,167 --> 00:11:41,700
workshop, I will take you

477
00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:43,133
through some of our results

478
00:11:43,133 --> 00:11:44,467
from those, and we have more

479
00:11:44,467 --> 00:11:45,733
of those planned as we move

480
00:11:45,733 --> 00:11:49,000
into the spring. We did also

481
00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,400
hold a community-wide vision

482
00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,670
workshop which provided a forum

483
00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:55,667
for folks who are interested to

484
00:11:55,667 --> 00:11:57,867
come together and do more

485
00:11:57,867 --> 00:11:59,740
brainstorming. We're thinking

486
00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:01,973
about where we should be going

487
00:12:01,973 --> 00:12:05,700
as a community, and Sara will

488
00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:06,173
be taking you through some

489
00:12:06,173 --> 00:12:06,973
of the results

490
00:12:06,973 --> 00:12:09,573
of that workshop as well.

491
00:12:09,573 --> 00:12:11,730
We've also had an online

492
00:12:11,730 --> 00:12:12,340
component for folks who have

493
00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:13,573
not yet been able

494
00:12:13,573 --> 00:12:15,307
to participate in person

495
00:12:15,307 --> 00:12:16,507
but enables you not only

496
00:12:16,507 --> 00:12:17,640
to receive information

497
00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,400
but also just to provide

498
00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,730
your--you can click a "submit

499
00:12:21,730 --> 00:12:22,740
comments" button and have

500
00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:23,240
comments come right through

501
00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,240
to Christopher. So we've tried,

502
00:12:26,273 --> 00:12:27,973
like Christopher said, to

503
00:12:27,973 --> 00:12:29,607
provide as broad an opportunity

504
00:12:29,607 --> 00:12:30,273
as possible

505
00:12:30,273 --> 00:12:32,273
for participation, but

506
00:12:32,373 --> 00:12:33,400
participation is always

507
00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,473
something that you are working

508
00:12:35,473 --> 00:12:37,730
on improving. And so as we move

509
00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:38,640
forward, we really want

510
00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,440
to build on the lessons that

511
00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,240
we've learned in terms of how

512
00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,700
to reach people, how

513
00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:45,307
to recruit people

514
00:12:45,307 --> 00:12:46,107
for the effort. We want

515
00:12:46,107 --> 00:12:47,173
to encourage everyone

516
00:12:47,173 --> 00:12:49,107
in this room to help us recruit

517
00:12:49,107 --> 00:12:50,700
people so that we can keep

518
00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:51,473
adding voices

519
00:12:51,473 --> 00:12:52,440
to the process as we go long.

520
00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,407
So if we take a quick look

521
00:12:56,407 --> 00:12:57,907
at what we have heard thus far

522
00:12:57,907 --> 00:12:59,980
for the mobile workshops,

523
00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:01,513
we were interested in

524
00:13:01,513 --> 00:13:03,680
understanding a little bit more

525
00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:05,813
about the characteristics of

526
00:13:05,813 --> 00:13:08,800
those participating and how

527
00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,680
they've perceived their

528
00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,813
neighborhood quality right now.

529
00:13:11,813 --> 00:13:13,547
So we did ask in some

530
00:13:13,547 --> 00:13:14,347
of the activities, which you

531
00:13:14,347 --> 00:13:16,213
may have seen, for folks to

532
00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:18,413
pick up a chip that was labeled

533
00:13:18,413 --> 00:13:20,647
with an "E" if you lived on the

534
00:13:20,647 --> 00:13:22,513
east side town or a "W" if you

535
00:13:22,513 --> 00:13:23,147
lived on the west side

536
00:13:23,147 --> 00:13:24,113
of town, so that the

537
00:13:24,113 --> 00:13:24,947
information that you provided

538
00:13:24,947 --> 00:13:26,747
during those mini workshop

539
00:13:26,747 --> 00:13:29,800
activities would help us better

540
00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,800
understand what your input said

541
00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:34,800
relative to where you lived and

542
00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,130
what your Elk Grove experience

543
00:13:36,130 --> 00:13:38,180
is. So you'll see that the

544
00:13:38,180 --> 00:13:40,313
results that I share on the

545
00:13:40,313 --> 00:13:42,647
next slide are split here. We

546
00:13:42,647 --> 00:13:45,470
can look at the

547
00:13:45,447 --> 00:13:47,280
Input that we've received both

548
00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,447
in terms of citywide, and also

549
00:13:49,447 --> 00:13:51,847
on the neighborhood level

550
00:13:52,180 --> 00:13:53,513
relative to whether or not

551
00:13:53,513 --> 00:13:55,913
folks were participating as a

552
00:13:55,913 --> 00:13:58,347
resident of the west side of

553
00:13:58,347 --> 00:14:01,320
99 in Elk Grove or the east

554
00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,353
side of 99. So as you see here,

555
00:14:04,353 --> 00:14:05,753
some of the workshop results,

556
00:14:05,753 --> 00:14:07,853
some items in common. That

557
00:14:07,853 --> 00:14:09,853
multi-mobile transportation is

558
00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,253
something that shows up as a

559
00:14:11,253 --> 00:14:13,753
citywide priority when we asked

560
00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:16,787
folks to put chips in a bucket

561
00:14:16,787 --> 00:14:18,620
indicating their highest

562
00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:19,853
priorities. You'll see that

563
00:14:19,853 --> 00:14:20,687
shows up

564
00:14:20,687 --> 00:14:23,387
for both east and west, though

565
00:14:23,387 --> 00:14:24,753
in different order. You'll see

566
00:14:24,753 --> 00:14:25,553
that open space

567
00:14:25,553 --> 00:14:26,853
in resource management is also

568
00:14:26,853 --> 00:14:28,200
on there. But you will see that

569
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,853
there is a, for example,

570
00:14:29,853 --> 00:14:32,853
unique note that east of 99,

571
00:14:33,487 --> 00:14:34,953
rural areas were a priority,

572
00:14:34,953 --> 00:14:35,853
whereas

573
00:14:35,853 --> 00:14:37,870
for folks participating as west

574
00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:39,487
of 99 residents, that was not a

575
00:14:39,487 --> 00:14:41,487
priority they indicated.

576
00:14:41,753 --> 00:14:43,420
Neighborhood ratings also

577
00:14:43,420 --> 00:14:46,420
showed some things in common,

578
00:14:46,753 --> 00:14:48,153
things that are going well,

579
00:14:48,153 --> 00:14:49,620
presence

580
00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:51,420
of children and seniors. You

581
00:14:51,420 --> 00:14:52,953
get a lot of feedback in terms

582
00:14:52,953 --> 00:14:55,353
of quality of life

583
00:14:55,453 --> 00:14:56,787
for children. We did have

584
00:14:56,787 --> 00:14:58,687
children's activities that,

585
00:14:58,687 --> 00:15:00,493
at the Merry Movie Night last

586
00:15:00,493 --> 00:15:01,893
weekend, gathered a lot

587
00:15:01,893 --> 00:15:03,893
of input

588
00:15:04,270 --> 00:15:04,960
from folks just coming

589
00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,593
in that are not included

590
00:15:06,593 --> 00:15:08,493
in our head count, where

591
00:15:08,493 --> 00:15:09,727
children are participating and

592
00:15:09,727 --> 00:15:12,260
providing us good input and

593
00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:13,793
parents are simply reviewing

594
00:15:13,793 --> 00:15:15,127
the materials that are

595
00:15:15,127 --> 00:15:16,793
out there. You will see here

596
00:15:16,793 --> 00:15:18,727
that in terms of things that

597
00:15:18,727 --> 00:15:20,227
are doing well and things that

598
00:15:20,227 --> 00:15:21,560
need improvement,

599
00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,693
we do have a common response.

600
00:15:24,693 --> 00:15:26,693
So as Sara and Jeff will talk

601
00:15:26,693 --> 00:15:28,193
more about, because we're just

602
00:15:28,193 --> 00:15:29,227
at the beginning

603
00:15:29,227 --> 00:15:30,693
of the process, we're

604
00:15:30,693 --> 00:15:32,227
unearthing things that our

605
00:15:32,227 --> 00:15:34,593
response that right now we know

606
00:15:34,593 --> 00:15:35,593
we need

607
00:15:35,593 --> 00:15:36,760
to dig a little bit deeper

608
00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,793
into that because, obviously,

609
00:15:37,793 --> 00:15:40,493
for some of our residents, it's

610
00:15:40,493 --> 00:15:42,427
something that's working really

611
00:15:42,427 --> 00:15:44,930
well in their neighborhood and

612
00:15:44,930 --> 00:15:45,460
for others, it's not. And so

613
00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:47,193
this doesn't indicate

614
00:15:47,193 --> 00:15:51,600
to us where a policy might go.

615
00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:51,593
We need

616
00:15:51,593 --> 00:15:53,160
to talk a little bit more

617
00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:53,927
with the community

618
00:15:53,927 --> 00:15:55,600
about things like that,

619
00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:55,960
that have turned up through the

620
00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360
mobile workshop responses. We

621
00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,867
also started

622
00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:02,670
out our visioning process

623
00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:03,667
at the mobile workshops. We

624
00:16:03,667 --> 00:16:05,133
wanted to capture some

625
00:16:05,133 --> 00:16:06,467
of that brainstorming

626
00:16:06,467 --> 00:16:09,000
about our vision from everyone

627
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,670
that we've interacted

628
00:16:10,670 --> 00:16:11,133
with thus far,

629
00:16:11,133 --> 00:16:12,300
not just the folks who came

630
00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:13,500
to the visioning workshops. So

631
00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:14,633
we did ask for some

632
00:16:14,633 --> 00:16:15,467
of that input

633
00:16:15,467 --> 00:16:17,867
to provide a comparable

634
00:16:18,670 --> 00:16:20,670
exercise at both division

635
00:16:20,670 --> 00:16:21,333
workshop and the mobile

636
00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:22,900
workshop. And these results

637
00:16:22,900 --> 00:16:24,700
helped feed into the vision,

638
00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:27,867
which is the book that you have

639
00:16:27,867 --> 00:16:28,700
in front of you

640
00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,567
in draft form. And I'm going

641
00:16:30,567 --> 00:16:32,333
to bring Sara up at this point

642
00:16:32,333 --> 00:16:33,700
to help describe a little bit

643
00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:35,800
more how this input was used

644
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,670
and what other elements played

645
00:16:38,670 --> 00:16:41,767
into it. And I'll be happy to

646
00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:43,300
answer more questions that you

647
00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:44,300
have as you get

648
00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:45,333
into your discussion

649
00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:46,330
about --.

650
00:16:46,330 --> 00:16:46,900
>> One quick question

651
00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:47,467
for you.

652
00:16:47,467 --> 00:16:48,133
>> Yes.

653
00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:48,767
>> You don't need

654
00:16:48,767 --> 00:16:49,600
to go back necessarily,

655
00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,600
but the previous slide sort of

656
00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,533
summarized strengths and

657
00:16:51,533 --> 00:16:53,933
opportunities. And at the

658
00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:58,333
bottom you said there's more

659
00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:01,500
available online. So I think--I

660
00:17:01,507 --> 00:17:03,507
mean just from a general

661
00:17:03,507 --> 00:17:04,940
curiosity standpoint, I mean it

662
00:17:04,940 --> 00:17:06,373
would be--I bet you the

663
00:17:06,373 --> 00:17:08,400
differences are in geography.

664
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,573
Are we able to dig

665
00:17:09,573 --> 00:17:10,840
in and see what parts of the

666
00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,773
community see trails as a

667
00:17:13,773 --> 00:17:15,607
strength and what parts of the

668
00:17:15,607 --> 00:17:16,507
community sees trails as an

669
00:17:16,507 --> 00:17:18,907
opportunity for even more,

670
00:17:18,907 --> 00:17:20,207
that sort of thing? Or is it

671
00:17:20,207 --> 00:17:22,240
just purely all lumped

672
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,840
in together?

673
00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,507
>> We don't have fine-grained

674
00:17:25,507 --> 00:17:28,373
geographic data on that, based

675
00:17:28,373 --> 00:17:29,400
on just the type

676
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,973
of exercise that it was,

677
00:17:30,973 --> 00:17:31,940
because we were just asking

678
00:17:31,940 --> 00:17:32,873
someone

679
00:17:32,873 --> 00:17:35,840
to identify as east or west,

680
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,907
not to put the--there was a map

681
00:17:37,907 --> 00:17:38,340
where we were asking folks

682
00:17:38,340 --> 00:17:40,840
to pinpoint where you live,

683
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,640
but that was just

684
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,107
to help us get a sense of how

685
00:17:43,107 --> 00:17:45,273
representative the input has

686
00:17:45,273 --> 00:17:46,640
been.

687
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,373
>> Okay.

688
00:17:47,373 --> 00:17:48,573
>> But there is a summary.

689
00:17:48,573 --> 00:17:49,840
Everything that we have heard

690
00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,607
thus far,

691
00:17:50,607 --> 00:17:51,807
all input that we've received

692
00:17:51,807 --> 00:17:54,207
across the community engagement

693
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,540
program is in a memo that's

694
00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:58,807
being continually updated as

695
00:17:58,807 --> 00:18:00,513
events happen and as an event

696
00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:02,130
happens and we update that

697
00:18:02,130 --> 00:18:04,713
input. It goes online. Right

698
00:18:04,713 --> 00:18:06,613
now it is really in transcript

699
00:18:06,613 --> 00:18:09,813
form and doesn't have the sort

700
00:18:09,813 --> 00:18:11,647
of key summary--the key themes

701
00:18:11,647 --> 00:18:13,247
summary that it will eventually

702
00:18:13,247 --> 00:18:14,480
have when it's concluded,

703
00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,947
but it's there if you'd like

704
00:18:15,947 --> 00:18:18,447
to take a look at it.

705
00:18:18,447 --> 00:18:19,130
>> Okay, thank you.

706
00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:19,480
>> Sure.

707
00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,847
>> If I can ask a question.

708
00:18:20,847 --> 00:18:21,413
>> Yes, please --.

709
00:18:21,413 --> 00:18:22,470
>> -- for a lot

710
00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:22,780
of the topics you're talking

711
00:18:22,780 --> 00:18:23,413
about tonight

712
00:18:23,413 --> 00:18:24,313
in that you haven't drilled

713
00:18:24,313 --> 00:18:25,780
down far enough to find out why

714
00:18:25,780 --> 00:18:26,680
the comments are being made

715
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,513
exactly?

716
00:18:27,513 --> 00:18:29,513
>> Mm-hmm, exactly. Because

717
00:18:29,713 --> 00:18:30,747
we're still

718
00:18:30,747 --> 00:18:31,980
at a very early stage.

719
00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:32,480
>> Obviously it raises

720
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:33,213
questions up here

721
00:18:33,213 --> 00:18:36,213
from a different vantage point.

722
00:18:36,647 --> 00:18:38,180
Thank you.

723
00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:40,580
>> Thank you. And part

724
00:18:41,247 --> 00:18:42,913
of that is going

725
00:18:42,913 --> 00:18:44,480
to be discussed at some of the

726
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,113
topic-based workshops that

727
00:18:46,113 --> 00:18:47,280
we're scheduling moving

728
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,380
forward. So Nora's example of

729
00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:51,380
the walkability showing up both

730
00:18:51,647 --> 00:18:53,547
on what we like and what could

731
00:18:53,547 --> 00:18:54,913
be improved, that's one

732
00:18:54,913 --> 00:18:56,880
of the proposed items

733
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,380
for our topic-based workshops.

734
00:18:58,380 --> 00:18:59,153
And that would be an

735
00:18:59,153 --> 00:18:59,953
opportunity to be able

736
00:18:59,953 --> 00:19:00,787
to drill

737
00:19:00,787 --> 00:19:01,853
down a little bit more based

738
00:19:01,853 --> 00:19:03,387
on the participants who come

739
00:19:03,387 --> 00:19:04,487
to that workshop. And we

740
00:19:04,487 --> 00:19:06,487
actually have some

741
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,720
recommendations on a couple of

742
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,153
other topic-based workshops

743
00:19:09,153 --> 00:19:10,387
based on the information that

744
00:19:10,387 --> 00:19:12,720
we've heard thus far. So I'm

745
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,787
going to run through really

746
00:19:13,787 --> 00:19:16,187
quickly the visioning workshop.

747
00:19:16,487 --> 00:19:17,787
It would be a half-day event

748
00:19:17,787 --> 00:19:19,320
held on a Saturday in early

749
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,653
November. We had just over 20

750
00:19:20,653 --> 00:19:22,530
participants,

751
00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:23,120
a pretty even split

752
00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,687
between participants coming

753
00:19:24,687 --> 00:19:26,487
from the east side of 99 and

754
00:19:26,487 --> 00:19:27,987
the west side of 99. We had

755
00:19:27,987 --> 00:19:30,387
several small group activities.

756
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,553
We had three focused small

757
00:19:31,553 --> 00:19:33,320
group activities that I'll run

758
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,520
through quickly. And then we

759
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,530
also had what we call

760
00:19:37,530 --> 00:19:38,887
free-flowing activities. I just

761
00:19:38,887 --> 00:19:40,587
made that name up,

762
00:19:40,587 --> 00:19:41,687
but it will probably work. And

763
00:19:41,687 --> 00:19:43,553
that is--you know, there's

764
00:19:43,553 --> 00:19:44,853
downtime when people are coming

765
00:19:44,853 --> 00:19:46,870
into the event and walking

766
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:47,353
out and taking breaks. So we

767
00:19:47,353 --> 00:19:48,687
wanted to really still provide

768
00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:49,887
that downtime as an opportunity

769
00:19:49,887 --> 00:19:52,320
for people to provide input.

770
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,687
So one of the events was an "I

771
00:19:54,687 --> 00:19:56,253
like," "I wish," "I wonder,"

772
00:19:56,253 --> 00:19:57,487
and that's people writing

773
00:19:57,487 --> 00:19:58,620
down what they like,

774
00:19:58,620 --> 00:19:59,853
what they wish for Elk Grove,

775
00:19:59,853 --> 00:20:00,587
and what they wonder

776
00:20:00,587 --> 00:20:01,287
about the process on sticky

777
00:20:01,287 --> 00:20:03,487
notes and placing those on

778
00:20:03,487 --> 00:20:05,453
poster format so we could get

779
00:20:05,453 --> 00:20:06,987
that additional input

780
00:20:06,987 --> 00:20:08,453
in that downtime. We also had a

781
00:20:08,453 --> 00:20:09,487
"Where do you live," and that's

782
00:20:09,487 --> 00:20:12,220
pinning a map, taking a pin

783
00:20:12,220 --> 00:20:13,420
on putting it on a map. So we

784
00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:14,687
had that distribution

785
00:20:14,687 --> 00:20:15,987
of geography through the

786
00:20:15,987 --> 00:20:17,387
planning area participants.

787
00:20:17,387 --> 00:20:18,687
And then as always, we have a

788
00:20:18,687 --> 00:20:20,387
general comments sheets because

789
00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:21,720
there's always an opportunity

790
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,920
for people to provide us with

791
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,920
additional comments--excuse me.

792
00:20:27,553 --> 00:20:28,587
So one of the first small group

793
00:20:28,587 --> 00:20:30,753
activities we did was community

794
00:20:30,753 --> 00:20:31,953
priorities. And this is where

795
00:20:31,953 --> 00:20:33,687
we took sort of those nine

796
00:20:33,687 --> 00:20:35,887
identified issues that we've

797
00:20:35,887 --> 00:20:37,520
been talking about since June

798
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,387
and we asked folks

799
00:20:39,387 --> 00:20:40,720
to prioritize what those are

800
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,120
from their own perspective.

801
00:20:43,187 --> 00:20:44,720
And the top three that came

802
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,187
out

803
00:20:45,187 --> 00:20:46,453
of that was economic vitality,

804
00:20:46,453 --> 00:20:49,530
and this was really recognized

805
00:20:49,530 --> 00:20:50,920
as like during discussions

806
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,520
throughout that event that you

807
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,530
can't really achieve all of

808
00:20:54,530 --> 00:20:55,120
this fun stuff that we're

809
00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,687
talking about and what we want

810
00:20:56,687 --> 00:20:58,253
if you don't really have a good

811
00:20:58,253 --> 00:21:00,960
vital economic base. So that a

812
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,693
key theme throughout the

813
00:21:01,693 --> 00:21:02,493
discussions

814
00:21:02,493 --> 00:21:03,793
from the visioning workshop.

815
00:21:03,793 --> 00:21:05,127
Coordinated services,

816
00:21:05,127 --> 00:21:06,527
technology and infrastructure,

817
00:21:06,527 --> 00:21:08,893
folks talking about this item

818
00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:09,993
were really more focused

819
00:21:09,993 --> 00:21:11,960
on social services, so youth

820
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,960
services, senior services,

821
00:21:14,727 --> 00:21:15,593
health services,

822
00:21:15,593 --> 00:21:18,127
and school districts. And then

823
00:21:18,127 --> 00:21:19,560
sustainable and healthy

824
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,793
communities which really ties

825
00:21:20,793 --> 00:21:22,560
them a little bit with the

826
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,493
coordinated services and health

827
00:21:23,493 --> 00:21:26,270
service aspects. The next small

828
00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:26,960
group activity,

829
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,293
we call it important issues

830
00:21:29,293 --> 00:21:31,493
for personas. And this was an

831
00:21:31,493 --> 00:21:33,660
activity where we--it's more

832
00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:35,193
of an empathy activity. So

833
00:21:35,193 --> 00:21:37,260
whereas we asked folks

834
00:21:37,260 --> 00:21:38,993
to prioritize issues

835
00:21:38,993 --> 00:21:40,427
from their own perspective in

836
00:21:40,427 --> 00:21:41,427
the community priority

837
00:21:41,427 --> 00:21:42,860
activity,

838
00:21:42,860 --> 00:21:43,660
we really wanted them

839
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:46,193
to take a step out of there own

840
00:21:46,193 --> 00:21:47,427
thought process and their own

841
00:21:47,427 --> 00:21:49,527
conform zone and try and answer

842
00:21:49,527 --> 00:21:50,393
that same question

843
00:21:50,393 --> 00:21:51,760
for another segment

844
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,270
within the community. So we had

845
00:21:54,270 --> 00:21:56,227
seven identified personas, and

846
00:21:56,227 --> 00:21:57,427
we asked them the same

847
00:21:57,427 --> 00:21:58,527
question: Based

848
00:21:58,527 --> 00:21:59,733
on this persona,

849
00:21:59,733 --> 00:22:00,800
and we had a description

850
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,567
of that persona,

851
00:22:02,567 --> 00:22:04,100
how would you think they want

852
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,330
to rank those priorities? And

853
00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:07,533
this was really more

854
00:22:07,533 --> 00:22:08,367
of an exercise

855
00:22:08,367 --> 00:22:09,367
to get people thinking

856
00:22:09,367 --> 00:22:11,367
about other people

857
00:22:12,733 --> 00:22:15,133
within the community. And

858
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,700
important issues that came out,

859
00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:18,330
there were some certain

860
00:22:18,330 --> 00:22:18,600
overlaps, of course. The youth

861
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,333
and senior services,

862
00:22:20,333 --> 00:22:21,333
which tied in

863
00:22:21,333 --> 00:22:22,667
with coordinated services,

864
00:22:22,667 --> 00:22:24,233
again, economic vitality and

865
00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:25,133
some issues

866
00:22:25,133 --> 00:22:27,533
on sustainability. The next

867
00:22:28,833 --> 00:22:31,533
small group activity that we

868
00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:32,500
had was the headline

869
00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:34,000
development activity. And this

870
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,867
was just more

871
00:22:34,867 --> 00:22:37,267
of an open-ended activity. We

872
00:22:37,267 --> 00:22:39,267
asked participates to,

873
00:22:39,633 --> 00:22:42,200
say they're in Elk Grove 20,

874
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,500
25 years from now, you go

875
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:45,533
to a store and buy a newspaper,

876
00:22:45,533 --> 00:22:47,100
or more likely you go online,

877
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,000
and what are the headlines that

878
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,400
you see or would like to see

879
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,367
about how your community has

880
00:22:53,367 --> 00:22:54,670
evolved

881
00:22:54,670 --> 00:22:55,933
within that time. I won't read

882
00:22:55,933 --> 00:22:56,900
through all of them,

883
00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:58,267
but certainly you can see some

884
00:22:58,267 --> 00:22:59,573
of the topics that were covered

885
00:22:59,573 --> 00:23:01,140
within the headlines.

886
00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:03,140
Examples, for someone,

887
00:23:03,307 --> 00:23:04,740
job and economic growth,

888
00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:05,540
alternative modes

889
00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:06,473
of transportation,

890
00:23:06,473 --> 00:23:07,807
-- service provision.

891
00:23:07,807 --> 00:23:09,240
And while we didn't have a

892
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,640
large group of participants,

893
00:23:11,973 --> 00:23:12,940
you can see that the

894
00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:14,673
conversation really still

895
00:23:14,673 --> 00:23:15,807
covered a wide range of issues

896
00:23:15,807 --> 00:23:18,807
within that focus group. This

897
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,730
was one

898
00:23:21,730 --> 00:23:23,473
of those free-flow activities.

899
00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:24,807
This is the "I wish,

900
00:23:24,807 --> 00:23:26,730
I wonder." Again, I won't read

901
00:23:26,730 --> 00:23:27,400
through them,

902
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,107
but you can see that some of

903
00:23:28,107 --> 00:23:30,240
the topics are really starting

904
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,273
to coalesce. There's some

905
00:23:32,273 --> 00:23:33,107
similarities

906
00:23:33,107 --> 00:23:34,373
across the board. Where we did

907
00:23:34,373 --> 00:23:36,807
get some comments was a

908
00:23:36,807 --> 00:23:38,407
distinction in one of the

909
00:23:38,407 --> 00:23:39,873
issues where it was infill and

910
00:23:39,873 --> 00:23:41,640
outward expansion. So a lot

911
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,540
of participants, it was hard

912
00:23:43,540 --> 00:23:44,607
to make comments

913
00:23:44,607 --> 00:23:45,440
on that because, of course,

914
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,440
sometimes those are competing

915
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,307
interests. So that is actually

916
00:23:50,307 --> 00:23:51,507
one of the topic-based

917
00:23:51,507 --> 00:23:52,707
workshops that we've identified

918
00:23:52,707 --> 00:23:54,273
for additional discussion,

919
00:23:54,273 --> 00:23:55,407
to be able to drill down

920
00:23:55,407 --> 00:23:58,407
on that issue. And finally,

921
00:23:58,813 --> 00:23:59,547
there is another component to

922
00:23:59,547 --> 00:24:01,180
the outreach that we've been

923
00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:02,580
doing. We've been doing the

924
00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:03,947
mobile workshops. We have the

925
00:24:03,947 --> 00:24:05,480
visioning workshop. And then

926
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,480
we've also had some interviews

927
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,447
with focus groups. As you can

928
00:24:09,447 --> 00:24:10,800
see, there's a lot

929
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,480
of city committees

930
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,713
on this list. We also had

931
00:24:12,713 --> 00:24:14,130
discussions

932
00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:14,913
with service providers,

933
00:24:14,913 --> 00:24:16,713
some regional agencies,

934
00:24:16,713 --> 00:24:19,130
school districts. And these--in

935
00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:21,470
your Attachment No. 1, the

936
00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:21,813
summary,

937
00:24:21,813 --> 00:24:24,213
that is where we have listed

938
00:24:24,213 --> 00:24:25,347
all of the comments that we've

939
00:24:25,347 --> 00:24:27,800
been recording

940
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,470
from these discussions. And

941
00:24:29,470 --> 00:24:32,470
with that--oh, no, these are

942
00:24:33,147 --> 00:24:35,580
those topics I was talking

943
00:24:35,580 --> 00:24:36,180
about. Though Nora already

944
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:37,213
identified the last one

945
00:24:37,213 --> 00:24:38,800
on this list, which is

946
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,247
transportation, planning,

947
00:24:39,247 --> 00:24:40,280
and drilling

948
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,380
down a little bit deeper on

949
00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:42,913
where we're finding those

950
00:24:42,913 --> 00:24:45,130
comments that are really

951
00:24:45,130 --> 00:24:46,647
diverging, and we want

952
00:24:46,647 --> 00:24:47,380
to be able

953
00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:48,180
to make sure that we're clear

954
00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:49,913
in the understanding

955
00:24:49,913 --> 00:24:50,813
of which way we need to go with

956
00:24:50,813 --> 00:24:52,980
our policies. I also mentioned

957
00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:55,213
the infill development and that

958
00:24:55,213 --> 00:24:56,447
discussion on infill versus

959
00:24:56,447 --> 00:24:59,120
outward expansion, and also how

960
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,753
you start balancing some other

961
00:25:00,753 --> 00:25:02,653
trade-offs such as conserving

962
00:25:02,653 --> 00:25:05,887
open space. And then the other

963
00:25:05,887 --> 00:25:07,120
topic was how do you really

964
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,870
better unified Elk Grove.

965
00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:10,587
Because throughout the

966
00:25:10,587 --> 00:25:12,120
discussions--and part of the

967
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,187
reason why we were recording

968
00:25:13,187 --> 00:25:14,553
that distinction

969
00:25:14,553 --> 00:25:16,553
between the west side of 99 and

970
00:25:16,553 --> 00:25:18,553
east side of 99 is that's the

971
00:25:18,553 --> 00:25:20,120
one comment that we've been

972
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:21,287
hearing fairly consistently

973
00:25:21,287 --> 00:25:22,853
throughout the process is it

974
00:25:22,853 --> 00:25:24,220
seems like there isn't

975
00:25:24,220 --> 00:25:26,453
necessarily one unified Elk

976
00:25:26,453 --> 00:25:27,787
Grove, and how can we better

977
00:25:27,787 --> 00:25:29,687
make that more

978
00:25:29,687 --> 00:25:31,530
of a unified community. So

979
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:31,820
that's one

980
00:25:31,820 --> 00:25:33,187
of the additional topics. And

981
00:25:33,187 --> 00:25:34,553
part of that is talking about

982
00:25:34,553 --> 00:25:36,530
neighborhood characteristics.

983
00:25:36,530 --> 00:25:38,220
So now with that, I'm going

984
00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:39,753
to pass it back over to CJ,

985
00:25:39,753 --> 00:25:41,620
who's going to open it up for

986
00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:43,620
some comments and discussions

987
00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:45,120
with Commission and Council.

988
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,120
Thank you.

989
00:25:51,870 --> 00:25:51,720
>> So I know you asked a couple

990
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,520
of questions

991
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,787
during the process of this.

992
00:25:53,787 --> 00:25:55,287
But I think the opportunity to

993
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:57,453
take a beat and really review

994
00:25:57,453 --> 00:25:59,270
what's been presented,

995
00:25:59,270 --> 00:26:00,600
and if there's any questions,

996
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,360
we ought to go over thoughts.

997
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,493
It's certainly an opportunity

998
00:26:03,493 --> 00:26:04,560
for public comment if you'd

999
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,393
like to get it now

1000
00:26:05,393 --> 00:26:06,493
on this first half

1001
00:26:06,493 --> 00:26:07,360
of what we'd like to go

1002
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,760
through tonight. Okay, well,

1003
00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:14,760
so you want to get feedback now

1004
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,270
or questions and --,

1005
00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:18,600
yeah, so in this step so far,

1006
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,727
in the outreach pieces and what

1007
00:26:19,727 --> 00:26:21,270
we've heard, and the summary

1008
00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:22,527
that we've presented you.

1009
00:26:22,527 --> 00:26:25,260
Okay. Any thoughts on the

1010
00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:27,260
outreach piece?

1011
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,160
>> I've attended the first

1012
00:26:30,793 --> 00:26:33,793
joint session and the Chamber

1013
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:35,727
of Commerce session and the

1014
00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:36,793
visioning session,

1015
00:26:36,793 --> 00:26:38,270
and there's a lot of very

1016
00:26:38,270 --> 00:26:40,393
general comments here that I

1017
00:26:40,393 --> 00:26:41,293
think are going to need a lot

1018
00:26:41,293 --> 00:26:42,893
of work on. So I think we're

1019
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:44,327
going in the right direction. I

1020
00:26:44,327 --> 00:26:45,527
see a lot of commonalities

1021
00:26:45,527 --> 00:26:46,993
in some of the comments, even

1022
00:26:46,993 --> 00:26:49,270
though we're hearing where east

1023
00:26:49,270 --> 00:26:50,327
and west and highway come

1024
00:26:50,327 --> 00:26:51,660
together, there's still some

1025
00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:53,427
commonality there.

1026
00:26:53,427 --> 00:26:54,527
>> Councilmember Hume.

1027
00:26:54,527 --> 00:26:56,293
>> Thank you. Christopher, what

1028
00:26:56,293 --> 00:26:58,193
are we doing to reach the folks

1029
00:26:58,193 --> 00:27:00,667
who don't come out? In a lot

1030
00:27:00,667 --> 00:27:01,500
of the pictures I saw a lot

1031
00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:03,367
of familiar faces. I know

1032
00:27:03,367 --> 00:27:04,167
at these events

1033
00:27:04,167 --> 00:27:05,667
with the popup tents,

1034
00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:06,833
that's a good way to kind of

1035
00:27:06,833 --> 00:27:08,330
get people that wouldn't

1036
00:27:08,330 --> 00:27:08,900
normally take an interest

1037
00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:10,000
in city issues.

1038
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,133
But do you feel like we're

1039
00:27:11,133 --> 00:27:12,567
really scratching the surface

1040
00:27:12,567 --> 00:27:14,100
of John Q. public that thinks

1041
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,633
the City's going fine,

1042
00:27:15,633 --> 00:27:17,967
is happy where they live, but

1043
00:27:17,967 --> 00:27:19,500
still would maybe provide

1044
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:20,933
valuable input

1045
00:27:20,933 --> 00:27:22,670
into the process?

1046
00:27:22,670 --> 00:27:22,767
>> One piece

1047
00:27:22,767 --> 00:27:23,667
of information we're waiting

1048
00:27:23,667 --> 00:27:25,467
on getting the results in,

1049
00:27:25,467 --> 00:27:27,670
we'll get a full presentation

1050
00:27:27,670 --> 00:27:28,267
in the new year, is the

1051
00:27:28,267 --> 00:27:30,167
biannual citywide survey.

1052
00:27:30,167 --> 00:27:31,233
That's another pulse point that

1053
00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:32,767
we'll be grabbing into this

1054
00:27:32,767 --> 00:27:34,800
process as we go forward. So

1055
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,867
once that data is available,

1056
00:27:35,867 --> 00:27:36,600
we'll integrate it in.

1057
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,333
At a certain point though,

1058
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:40,400
you just can't pry some folks

1059
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,670
out of their houses. And that's

1060
00:27:42,670 --> 00:27:43,667
an unfortunate thing.

1061
00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:45,667
But we'll continue to try

1062
00:27:45,667 --> 00:27:46,800
to find ways, whether it's

1063
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,200
through online mechanisms or

1064
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,133
in person,

1065
00:27:49,133 --> 00:27:50,400
to see things we can do to try

1066
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:50,967
to gather as broad a

1067
00:27:50,967 --> 00:27:52,967
cross-section

1068
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:54,633
of input as possible. So

1069
00:27:54,633 --> 00:27:55,967
obviously, we're interested

1070
00:27:55,967 --> 00:27:56,967
in any ideas anybody has

1071
00:27:56,967 --> 00:27:58,133
on how

1072
00:27:58,133 --> 00:27:59,240
to do that effectively.

1073
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,107
>> Well, it looks

1074
00:28:00,107 --> 00:28:00,773
like you've had a number

1075
00:28:00,773 --> 00:28:03,730
of meetings with groups,

1076
00:28:03,730 --> 00:28:05,700
and that's summarized

1077
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,407
in here. This memorandum,

1078
00:28:08,873 --> 00:28:11,273
Attachment 1, it looks like--is

1079
00:28:12,173 --> 00:28:13,373
that it? And there's a lot

1080
00:28:13,373 --> 00:28:13,907
of bullet points in there

1081
00:28:13,907 --> 00:28:14,807
about feedback that came

1082
00:28:14,807 --> 00:28:16,107
from that meeting. So I think

1083
00:28:16,107 --> 00:28:17,507
that's--I mean there's some

1084
00:28:17,507 --> 00:28:18,173
good stuff

1085
00:28:18,173 --> 00:28:19,407
in there. I guess one thing,

1086
00:28:19,407 --> 00:28:20,873
I'll just point

1087
00:28:20,873 --> 00:28:21,840
out a suggestion. I mean you

1088
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,700
met with the multicultural

1089
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:25,573
committee, of course, but--and

1090
00:28:25,573 --> 00:28:27,107
I think that's a--and that's a

1091
00:28:27,107 --> 00:28:28,840
representative body,

1092
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,573
but I think another place

1093
00:28:30,573 --> 00:28:32,700
to consider going to,

1094
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:32,840
as we continue the public

1095
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,730
outreach, would be reaching

1096
00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:35,907
into, you know, other kind

1097
00:28:35,907 --> 00:28:38,473
of cultural and ethnic pockets

1098
00:28:38,473 --> 00:28:40,640
of our community and maybe

1099
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,740
even, you know,

1100
00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:43,240
faith-based groups to just kind

1101
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,473
of--I mean I think that's one

1102
00:28:44,473 --> 00:28:45,473
place where we could continue

1103
00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:46,773
to--and I think just showing up

1104
00:28:46,773 --> 00:28:48,507
is great too. I mean just

1105
00:28:48,507 --> 00:28:49,707
showing up at community events

1106
00:28:49,707 --> 00:28:51,540
clearly is giving you feedback

1107
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:53,700
that otherwise you wouldn't

1108
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:55,173
have received. And it seems

1109
00:28:55,173 --> 00:28:56,340
like the mobile events have

1110
00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:58,480
been pretty successful. But I

1111
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,780
think the cultural groups are a

1112
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:00,580
little harder to find because

1113
00:29:00,580 --> 00:29:02,713
they're--you know, we're not an

1114
00:29:02,713 --> 00:29:04,713
ethnic pocket-oriented

1115
00:29:06,113 --> 00:29:08,280
community where you can just go

1116
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,913
find the leadership

1117
00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:10,713
of the community. But a lot

1118
00:29:10,713 --> 00:29:13,800
of it is faith-based and some

1119
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,313
of it are--you know, they meet

1120
00:29:14,313 --> 00:29:15,647
in people's homes and whatnot.

1121
00:29:15,647 --> 00:29:17,613
But they're out there. So

1122
00:29:17,613 --> 00:29:18,947
that'll be one place, I think,

1123
00:29:18,947 --> 00:29:21,947
to look. Okay, thank you.

1124
00:29:21,947 --> 00:29:22,947
>> So, Chris, I actually

1125
00:29:22,947 --> 00:29:25,800
thought the list of outreach as

1126
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:25,513
listed here is pretty

1127
00:29:25,513 --> 00:29:28,213
impressive as to what, you

1128
00:29:28,213 --> 00:29:29,347
know, you and your staff have

1129
00:29:29,347 --> 00:29:30,180
done. I guess I'm curious to

1130
00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:32,680
see whether or not there are

1131
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,747
any baseline comparisons on how

1132
00:29:34,747 --> 00:29:36,847
the other cities conduct this

1133
00:29:36,847 --> 00:29:38,747
similar type

1134
00:29:38,747 --> 00:29:39,947
of civics planning. What is the

1135
00:29:39,947 --> 00:29:42,130
participation rate comparing to

1136
00:29:42,130 --> 00:29:44,947
the responses that we get?

1137
00:29:44,947 --> 00:29:45,647
>> We should let Nora answer

1138
00:29:45,647 --> 00:29:46,680
that because she does so much

1139
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,680
of on a regular basis.

1140
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:51,113
>> Sure. It's a great question.

1141
00:29:51,113 --> 00:29:53,780
So relative to other cities

1142
00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:56,613
of our size, I think this is a

1143
00:29:56,613 --> 00:29:58,613
relatively good rate

1144
00:29:58,713 --> 00:30:01,580
of participation thus far. And

1145
00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:02,880
the program that we've planned

1146
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,847
is fairly robust relative

1147
00:30:04,847 --> 00:30:05,680
particularly

1148
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,947
to the state guidance

1149
00:30:06,947 --> 00:30:08,547
on public involvement

1150
00:30:08,547 --> 00:30:11,130
for a general plan process,

1151
00:30:11,130 --> 00:30:13,980
which really fairly minimal to

1152
00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:16,380
workshops are recommended and

1153
00:30:17,313 --> 00:30:19,180
only public hearings are

1154
00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:20,513
required. And certainly the

1155
00:30:20,513 --> 00:30:23,147
program in place, it will be

1156
00:30:23,147 --> 00:30:26,800
far more robust than that. But

1157
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,847
in my opinion,

1158
00:30:27,847 --> 00:30:29,547
there's always room to work on

1159
00:30:29,547 --> 00:30:31,147
more public involvement and

1160
00:30:31,147 --> 00:30:33,113
reaching into corners of the

1161
00:30:33,113 --> 00:30:34,213
community that have not yet

1162
00:30:34,213 --> 00:30:35,847
participated. So we're

1163
00:30:35,847 --> 00:30:37,247
certainly going

1164
00:30:37,247 --> 00:30:38,647
to continue trying, even though

1165
00:30:38,647 --> 00:30:39,780
we're exceeding the state

1166
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:41,780
recommendations.

1167
00:30:42,447 --> 00:30:44,800
>> Councilman Suen.

1168
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,347
>> I do want to commend you on

1169
00:30:45,347 --> 00:30:46,847
your outreach. I think the

1170
00:30:46,847 --> 00:30:48,680
mobile studios have been pretty

1171
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,130
effective. I've seen them when

1172
00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:51,347
I've been out at events myself.

1173
00:30:51,347 --> 00:30:53,580
I would encourage us to--you

1174
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:54,613
know, part of it is the

1175
00:30:54,613 --> 00:30:56,547
General Plan itself, to a lot

1176
00:30:56,547 --> 00:30:58,487
of people who may not even be

1177
00:30:58,487 --> 00:31:00,153
familiar with the term and

1178
00:31:00,153 --> 00:31:01,853
recognize what it's for. And so

1179
00:31:01,853 --> 00:31:03,387
maybe, you know, with

1180
00:31:03,387 --> 00:31:05,287
Kristin's help we can go on a

1181
00:31:05,287 --> 00:31:07,287
more aggressive marketing

1182
00:31:07,287 --> 00:31:09,120
campaign. We have our Next

1183
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,953
Door apps,

1184
00:31:10,953 --> 00:31:12,287
we can start posting those. So

1185
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:14,420
as any new City events come up,

1186
00:31:14,420 --> 00:31:15,987
you know, blast it out

1187
00:31:15,987 --> 00:31:18,530
through there. And so get folks

1188
00:31:18,530 --> 00:31:19,220
wonderful what's a general

1189
00:31:19,220 --> 00:31:20,420
plan, and then let them know

1190
00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:21,753
about the mobile events that

1191
00:31:21,753 --> 00:31:25,353
are going to take place here.

1192
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:27,753
Thank you.

1193
00:31:27,753 --> 00:31:28,387
>> Thank you. Councilman

1194
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:29,253
Detrick.

1195
00:31:29,253 --> 00:31:31,687
>> Yeah, Chris, one of the

1196
00:31:31,687 --> 00:31:32,420
things I was wondering when you

1197
00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:34,187
talked about the surveys, is

1198
00:31:34,187 --> 00:31:35,787
there anything to--we're

1199
00:31:35,787 --> 00:31:36,620
looking at doing

1200
00:31:36,620 --> 00:31:38,620
to incentivize folks

1201
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,653
to return the survey?

1202
00:31:41,653 --> 00:31:43,353
>> There's two pieces

1203
00:31:43,353 --> 00:31:44,153
of the survey. One is the

1204
00:31:44,153 --> 00:31:45,853
statistically valid phone

1205
00:31:45,853 --> 00:31:47,787
survey, and the other is the

1206
00:31:47,787 --> 00:31:50,187
online piece. It's mailed,

1207
00:31:51,187 --> 00:31:51,420
I'm sorry. There's a mailed

1208
00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:54,420
survey piece. So there's two

1209
00:31:54,587 --> 00:31:56,387
parallel components to it.

1210
00:31:56,387 --> 00:31:58,530
>> But is there any incentive

1211
00:31:58,530 --> 00:31:58,660
to--

1212
00:31:58,660 --> 00:31:59,560
>> No.

1213
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,260
>> --respond to those surveys?

1214
00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:02,427
>> No.

1215
00:32:02,427 --> 00:32:03,593
>> Is that something that we

1216
00:32:03,593 --> 00:32:04,127
could do,

1217
00:32:04,127 --> 00:32:06,527
is add an incentive?

1218
00:32:07,827 --> 00:32:08,293
>> At this late date,

1219
00:32:08,293 --> 00:32:09,793
probably--definitely not

1220
00:32:09,793 --> 00:32:11,393
for the mail survey. That has

1221
00:32:11,393 --> 00:32:13,927
closed. And we have just

1222
00:32:13,927 --> 00:32:15,393
received the draft reports

1223
00:32:15,393 --> 00:32:18,393
of those findings. We are

1224
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,193
encouraging people who were not

1225
00:32:21,193 --> 00:32:23,193
selected to participate

1226
00:32:24,127 --> 00:32:25,527
in the mail survey

1227
00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:26,527
to participate

1228
00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:28,927
on the online survey,

1229
00:32:29,727 --> 00:32:31,493
and we're going

1230
00:32:31,493 --> 00:32:32,593
to keep that open

1231
00:32:32,593 --> 00:32:33,693
through the end of the year.

1232
00:32:33,693 --> 00:32:35,693
In fact,

1233
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,627
there will be an article

1234
00:32:37,627 --> 00:32:39,270
in the local paper

1235
00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:40,493
about it within, I think,

1236
00:32:40,493 --> 00:32:42,930
next Wednesday.

1237
00:32:42,930 --> 00:32:43,693
But I'm not really sure at this

1238
00:32:43,693 --> 00:32:44,660
late date if there is really

1239
00:32:44,660 --> 00:32:46,227
any real way

1240
00:32:46,227 --> 00:32:49,227
to incentivize it. That is

1241
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,127
something we can look at

1242
00:32:51,127 --> 00:32:52,460
for when we do it in two years.

1243
00:32:52,460 --> 00:32:54,360
>> I don't know if that's ever

1244
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,860
been done in another city,

1245
00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:58,160
but it seems like people

1246
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,330
in general,

1247
00:33:00,330 --> 00:33:00,733
if there's some type

1248
00:33:00,733 --> 00:33:01,467
of incentive,

1249
00:33:01,467 --> 00:33:02,533
they're more inclined

1250
00:33:02,533 --> 00:33:05,533
to respond. And that's our

1251
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,633
goal, is

1252
00:33:06,633 --> 00:33:09,330
to get a response.

1253
00:33:11,533 --> 00:33:12,200
>> All right, thank you.

1254
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,200
Commissioner Maita.

1255
00:33:14,967 --> 00:33:16,867
>> Yes, Christopher. First off,

1256
00:33:16,867 --> 00:33:18,367
I would like to commend as well

1257
00:33:18,367 --> 00:33:19,800
the--I've seen the mobile sites

1258
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,467
and they--I've seen them pretty

1259
00:33:21,467 --> 00:33:24,467
well attended and a lot

1260
00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:26,100
of interest,

1261
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,800
and it was gratifying. And

1262
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,700
particularly, I did attend the

1263
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:31,700
workshop where I think they

1264
00:33:31,833 --> 00:33:33,567
said it was 21 people.

1265
00:33:33,567 --> 00:33:34,933
Gratifyingly enough,

1266
00:33:34,933 --> 00:33:35,767
those few people who were

1267
00:33:35,767 --> 00:33:36,800
there, we did see some new

1268
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,667
faces, which was nice and got

1269
00:33:38,667 --> 00:33:39,900
some new perspective. At least

1270
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,667
at the table I was at. So I

1271
00:33:42,667 --> 00:33:44,167
appreciated that. But then I'd

1272
00:33:44,167 --> 00:33:46,133
like to back up and just have

1273
00:33:46,133 --> 00:33:48,100
you answer a couple questions

1274
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,700
for me in a broader sense,

1275
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,300
not specifically to outreach,

1276
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,233
and that's just

1277
00:33:54,233 --> 00:33:55,467
to refresh my memory

1278
00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:56,567
of what your expectation

1279
00:33:56,567 --> 00:33:57,933
of the shelf life of the

1280
00:33:57,933 --> 00:34:00,307
General Plan is. And then

1281
00:34:00,307 --> 00:34:01,307
secondly, when it comes

1282
00:34:01,307 --> 00:34:03,573
to the elements, I understand

1283
00:34:03,573 --> 00:34:05,573
the state requirements.

1284
00:34:06,273 --> 00:34:09,273
But are they presently weighted

1285
00:34:11,973 --> 00:34:13,940
in any fashion vis- -vis each

1286
00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:18,140
other, and if they are not, can

1287
00:34:18,207 --> 00:34:20,740
they be and potentially should

1288
00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:22,107
they be?

1289
00:34:22,107 --> 00:34:23,707
>> On your first question,

1290
00:34:23,707 --> 00:34:26,107
the length of time,

1291
00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:28,407
it can vary from community

1292
00:34:28,407 --> 00:34:29,873
to community. Some are

1293
00:34:29,873 --> 00:34:31,173
on a very regular basis

1294
00:34:31,173 --> 00:34:32,340
of every 5 to 10 years they do

1295
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:33,640
an update. We will have gone

1296
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,640
about 15 years since our first

1297
00:34:36,973 --> 00:34:38,740
general plan. I would imagine

1298
00:34:38,740 --> 00:34:39,973
that this one

1299
00:34:39,973 --> 00:34:42,373
in its totality will last

1300
00:34:42,373 --> 00:34:44,273
for a similar period of time,

1301
00:34:44,273 --> 00:34:46,700
maybe longer, maybe less. It

1302
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:46,807
depends on a number

1303
00:34:46,807 --> 00:34:47,907
of factors. Obviously, there

1304
00:34:47,907 --> 00:34:49,240
will be updates

1305
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:50,373
along the way, amendments

1306
00:34:50,373 --> 00:34:51,507
to various things, changes

1307
00:34:51,507 --> 00:34:54,307
in state law. In terms

1308
00:34:54,307 --> 00:34:56,107
of the elements themselves, the

1309
00:34:56,107 --> 00:34:58,247
mandatory elements and all

1310
00:34:58,247 --> 00:35:00,347
other topics or elements that

1311
00:35:00,347 --> 00:35:01,780
are within the General Plan are

1312
00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:02,513
required by law

1313
00:35:02,513 --> 00:35:04,470
to have equal weight. So you

1314
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:05,547
don't--land use or housing

1315
00:35:05,547 --> 00:35:07,180
don't have a higher level

1316
00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:09,347
of weight or character

1317
00:35:09,347 --> 00:35:10,847
between any of the others.

1318
00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:11,313
They all have

1319
00:35:11,313 --> 00:35:12,613
to be equal and they ought

1320
00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:13,213
to be consistent

1321
00:35:13,213 --> 00:35:14,470
with each other. So if you say

1322
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:15,947
something on page 35, it must

1323
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:18,947
be consistent on page 197. The

1324
00:35:19,313 --> 00:35:21,313
elements themselves, though,

1325
00:35:21,613 --> 00:35:23,113
the way the law describes them,

1326
00:35:23,113 --> 00:35:24,647
it uses that word "elements,"

1327
00:35:24,647 --> 00:35:25,747
it never uses the word

1328
00:35:25,747 --> 00:35:26,713
"chapters." Many communities

1329
00:35:26,713 --> 00:35:29,113
have interpreted or implemented

1330
00:35:29,447 --> 00:35:31,147
that by having each element be

1331
00:35:31,147 --> 00:35:33,613
its own standalone chapter. As

1332
00:35:33,613 --> 00:35:34,647
we approach this,

1333
00:35:34,647 --> 00:35:36,680
the dialogue we've been having,

1334
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,130
starting

1335
00:35:38,130 --> 00:35:39,213
with the issues discussion back

1336
00:35:39,213 --> 00:35:41,347
in June and following through

1337
00:35:41,347 --> 00:35:43,780
with the outreach and where the

1338
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:45,800
outreach may take us,

1339
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,213
the discussion may take us

1340
00:35:46,213 --> 00:35:48,800
over the next six, eight

1341
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,447
months, I would not be

1342
00:35:49,447 --> 00:35:50,470
surprised if the organization

1343
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:50,880
of the General Plan, how the

1344
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,980
information is presented,

1345
00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:54,130
is more in line

1346
00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:55,780
with those topic elements,

1347
00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:57,447
those topic components rather

1348
00:35:57,447 --> 00:35:59,587
than the more traditional every

1349
00:35:59,587 --> 00:36:00,553
required element or every

1350
00:36:00,553 --> 00:36:01,687
optional -- that has

1351
00:36:01,687 --> 00:36:03,287
its own chapter. Because

1352
00:36:03,287 --> 00:36:04,787
of the inner relationship

1353
00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:06,987
between those various pieces,

1354
00:36:06,987 --> 00:36:08,687
how can we talk about land use

1355
00:36:08,687 --> 00:36:09,753
if you're not also talking

1356
00:36:09,753 --> 00:36:11,753
about transportation? How can

1357
00:36:11,753 --> 00:36:12,787
you talk about air quality if

1358
00:36:12,787 --> 00:36:15,653
you're aligning that with what

1359
00:36:15,653 --> 00:36:17,153
your transportation issues are?

1360
00:36:17,153 --> 00:36:18,553
So based on how we've been

1361
00:36:18,553 --> 00:36:19,753
approaching this

1362
00:36:19,753 --> 00:36:21,853
for the issues' list,

1363
00:36:21,853 --> 00:36:23,870
there's a different

1364
00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:24,253
organization, a different

1365
00:36:24,253 --> 00:36:26,870
framework pattern that may be

1366
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:26,953
more approachable for folks.

1367
00:36:26,953 --> 00:36:28,120
So we're going

1368
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,353
to be exploring that.

1369
00:36:30,353 --> 00:36:30,920
>> Thank you.

1370
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,420
>> All right, thank you. Now

1371
00:36:32,420 --> 00:36:33,787
Councilman Detrick?

1372
00:36:33,787 --> 00:36:35,853
>> On the 500-plus visitors

1373
00:36:35,853 --> 00:36:38,853
that--I've looked at this. Do

1374
00:36:39,487 --> 00:36:40,253
you guys keep track of unique

1375
00:36:40,253 --> 00:36:41,587
visitors versus total count?

1376
00:36:41,587 --> 00:36:44,587
>> No. That total count was

1377
00:36:46,787 --> 00:36:48,753
based off of map locations,

1378
00:36:48,753 --> 00:36:50,753
because not everyone--because

1379
00:36:52,687 --> 00:36:53,987
there's no requirement,

1380
00:36:53,987 --> 00:36:55,253
for example, to sign

1381
00:36:55,253 --> 00:36:56,153
in or check in when you visit a

1382
00:36:56,153 --> 00:36:58,127
mobile workshop. It was based

1383
00:36:58,127 --> 00:36:59,360
on those folks who wanted

1384
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,727
to volunteer the location

1385
00:37:00,727 --> 00:37:02,960
of their residence within Elk

1386
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,260
Grove. So what it is, is I

1387
00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:07,860
would say it's a good rough

1388
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,493
estimate of the amount

1389
00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:11,827
of participation,

1390
00:37:11,827 --> 00:37:13,127
but it certainly doesn't

1391
00:37:13,127 --> 00:37:14,360
account for anyone who may have

1392
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,760
given us a comment

1393
00:37:16,893 --> 00:37:19,127
but not put a pin on a map or

1394
00:37:19,127 --> 00:37:22,660
had their child color a piece

1395
00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:23,927
of artwork but didn't chose

1396
00:37:23,927 --> 00:37:25,427
to sign in. So it's really just

1397
00:37:25,427 --> 00:37:27,160
our best guesstimate as to how

1398
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,227
many folks have participated

1399
00:37:29,227 --> 00:37:30,327
thus far through the mobile

1400
00:37:30,327 --> 00:37:32,327
workshops.

1401
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,860
>> Chris, I noticed under the

1402
00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:36,860
regional agencies groupings

1403
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,293
that one agency that wasn't

1404
00:37:39,293 --> 00:37:40,893
mentioned,

1405
00:37:40,893 --> 00:37:41,693
and there's been a lot of talk

1406
00:37:41,693 --> 00:37:43,693
about it

1407
00:37:43,827 --> 00:37:44,727
within the visioning workshop,

1408
00:37:44,727 --> 00:37:47,727
is transportation. I didn't see

1409
00:37:48,627 --> 00:37:49,260
regional transit as a

1410
00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:51,260
participant.

1411
00:37:52,930 --> 00:37:53,927
>> We will do coordination

1412
00:37:53,927 --> 00:37:54,327
with them as we get

1413
00:37:54,327 --> 00:37:56,270
into the specific policies,

1414
00:37:56,270 --> 00:37:57,270
particularly as we talk about

1415
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:59,270
fixed transit opportunities.

1416
00:38:00,333 --> 00:38:01,467
Because we operate our own

1417
00:38:01,467 --> 00:38:03,967
local and commuter bus service,

1418
00:38:03,967 --> 00:38:05,700
there isn't as much overlap.

1419
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:06,800
Their engagement has been

1420
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,300
more--at this point

1421
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:10,467
in time more to the extent that

1422
00:38:10,467 --> 00:38:12,867
it's been occurring--with the

1423
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:14,330
comprehensive operational, and

1424
00:38:14,330 --> 00:38:15,100
now the transit is undergoing

1425
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,567
right now. So we will be

1426
00:38:16,567 --> 00:38:18,800
involving them as we get into,

1427
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,900
okay, what is the vision City

1428
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:22,533
has

1429
00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:25,000
for whether it's light rail,

1430
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,133
would be RT or something else,

1431
00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:28,533
how that gets coordinated

1432
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,500
with them long term.

1433
00:38:32,133 --> 00:38:33,400
>> Okay. I know we've had a lot

1434
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,800
of discussion, you know,

1435
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,267
during SEPA,

1436
00:38:36,267 --> 00:38:37,133
and the college has mentioned

1437
00:38:37,133 --> 00:38:39,233
it in here too. So I want to

1438
00:38:39,233 --> 00:38:40,667
make sure that we do include

1439
00:38:40,667 --> 00:38:43,167
them at some point in time.

1440
00:38:43,167 --> 00:38:44,400
>> I'll say one thing too.

1441
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,733
Something to keep in mind, I

1442
00:38:45,733 --> 00:38:46,867
mean, obviously, the General

1443
00:38:46,867 --> 00:38:48,733
Plan update doesn't come

1444
00:38:48,733 --> 00:38:50,267
around very often and, you

1445
00:38:50,267 --> 00:38:53,267
know, doesn't come around even

1446
00:38:53,433 --> 00:38:55,867
as often as it should.

1447
00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:57,973
But keep in mind that,

1448
00:38:57,973 --> 00:38:59,973
obviously,

1449
00:39:00,173 --> 00:39:01,440
the end product is extremely

1450
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,400
valuable, but the process is,

1451
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,140
I would say,

1452
00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:05,973
equally as valuable. So I think

1453
00:39:05,973 --> 00:39:07,473
the fact that, you know, what

1454
00:39:07,473 --> 00:39:09,707
you've summarized here is some

1455
00:39:09,707 --> 00:39:11,907
outreach to those that are

1456
00:39:11,907 --> 00:39:12,307
involved--certainly our

1457
00:39:12,307 --> 00:39:14,307
committees or commissions,

1458
00:39:14,407 --> 00:39:15,640
folks that are already

1459
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,840
involved, advocates, community

1460
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,240
groups--those are folks that

1461
00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:20,607
are already involved in the

1462
00:39:20,607 --> 00:39:22,340
community. I think the mobile

1463
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:23,707
studio gets you beyond the

1464
00:39:23,707 --> 00:39:25,207
folks that are already

1465
00:39:25,207 --> 00:39:27,573
involved. And, you know,

1466
00:39:27,573 --> 00:39:30,173
we threw out some groups I

1467
00:39:30,173 --> 00:39:31,407
think you could see them do a

1468
00:39:31,407 --> 00:39:33,340
deeper level of outreach too.

1469
00:39:33,340 --> 00:39:35,373
But also, you do have other

1470
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:36,540
groups that are involved

1471
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:37,573
in their neighborhoods

1472
00:39:37,573 --> 00:39:38,507
but not necessarily involved

1473
00:39:38,507 --> 00:39:39,407
in the City. And that's just

1474
00:39:39,407 --> 00:39:40,573
all of our neighborhood

1475
00:39:40,573 --> 00:39:42,340
associations,

1476
00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:44,700
community groups. So I think

1477
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:45,173
that's another place. I mean if

1478
00:39:45,173 --> 00:39:47,173
you're going

1479
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,940
to dig deeper for, you know,

1480
00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:49,473
some other nuggets,

1481
00:39:49,473 --> 00:39:50,240
I think there's a whole layer

1482
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,307
beyond the mobile studio that

1483
00:39:52,307 --> 00:39:53,307
you can do

1484
00:39:53,307 --> 00:39:54,773
to really dig deep.

1485
00:39:54,773 --> 00:39:56,407
Recognizing that, again,

1486
00:39:56,407 --> 00:39:58,730
the goals are twofold,

1487
00:39:58,730 --> 00:39:59,473
I fundamentally believe. And

1488
00:39:59,473 --> 00:40:00,940
it's about the end product,

1489
00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:02,307
but it's also about engagement

1490
00:40:02,307 --> 00:40:03,407
and making sure this this

1491
00:40:03,407 --> 00:40:04,640
process is used in a way to

1492
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,107
really engage folks. I mean I

1493
00:40:06,107 --> 00:40:08,400
think you're off

1494
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,273
to a great start and I'm

1495
00:40:09,273 --> 00:40:10,273
excited

1496
00:40:10,273 --> 00:40:12,673
about this continuing. Other

1497
00:40:14,473 --> 00:40:15,273
thoughts before we go

1498
00:40:15,273 --> 00:40:17,107
to public comment?

1499
00:40:17,107 --> 00:40:18,607
>> With the neighborhoods, we

1500
00:40:18,607 --> 00:40:19,740
can piggyback their neighbor

1501
00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:20,407
watch 'cause we got

1502
00:40:20,407 --> 00:40:21,173
to keep the database already

1503
00:40:21,173 --> 00:40:22,707
on that. So the neighborhood

1504
00:40:22,707 --> 00:40:23,607
watch is a great one

1505
00:40:23,607 --> 00:40:26,700
to piggyback off of.

1506
00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:28,973
>> Yeah. Okay, let's see.

1507
00:40:28,973 --> 00:40:30,730
Well, let's see,

1508
00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:31,840
I've got someone signed up

1509
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,240
to speak. Mark Doty?

1510
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,273
>> I'm it?

1511
00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:44,140
That's so disappointing.

1512
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:45,407
It's not often I--

1513
00:40:45,407 --> 00:40:47,240
>> Just first, that's all.

1514
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:49,240
>> Okay, good.

1515
00:40:49,673 --> 00:40:50,340
Councilmembers,

1516
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:51,840
Commissioners, it's a pleasure

1517
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,873
to speak

1518
00:40:52,873 --> 00:40:54,373
with you this evening. I'm

1519
00:40:54,373 --> 00:40:56,730
Mark Doty. I'm Chair of the

1520
00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:57,913
Trails Committee,

1521
00:40:57,913 --> 00:40:58,747
but my comments

1522
00:40:58,747 --> 00:41:00,247
in no way reflect the Trails

1523
00:41:00,247 --> 00:41:00,947
Committee. I've been stuck on

1524
00:41:00,947 --> 00:41:03,113
that a few times. A couple

1525
00:41:03,113 --> 00:41:05,613
things I just wanted to talk

1526
00:41:05,613 --> 00:41:07,147
about tonight. It's already

1527
00:41:07,147 --> 00:41:09,247
kind of been discussed.

1528
00:41:09,247 --> 00:41:12,147
But when I was reading

1529
00:41:12,147 --> 00:41:13,347
through this, I was just kind

1530
00:41:13,347 --> 00:41:14,880
of curious what the community

1531
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,280
has been bringing up, and you

1532
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,780
saw trails was mentioned

1533
00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:19,780
numerous times. There's 500

1534
00:41:20,213 --> 00:41:22,380
people or so that have been

1535
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:23,547
surveyed, and a lot

1536
00:41:23,547 --> 00:41:24,880
of it came up. So I mean I want

1537
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,647
ahead and tabbed some things:

1538
00:41:27,647 --> 00:41:28,247
improved bicycle

1539
00:41:28,247 --> 00:41:30,800
infrastructure,

1540
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,747
connect the trail system. Some

1541
00:41:32,747 --> 00:41:35,747
other interesting ones I saw

1542
00:41:35,913 --> 00:41:37,913
was the Multicultural

1543
00:41:37,947 --> 00:41:39,580
Committee said we need to

1544
00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:41,180
complete our bike path network,

1545
00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:42,713
we need a network where you

1546
00:41:42,713 --> 00:41:44,130
don't need to cross

1547
00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:45,470
at the intersection,

1548
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:48,470
which I've been at Planning

1549
00:41:48,447 --> 00:41:49,913
Commission meetings and City

1550
00:41:49,913 --> 00:41:51,147
Council meetings hammering

1551
00:41:51,147 --> 00:41:52,447
on that.

1552
00:41:52,447 --> 00:41:53,213
>> Once or twice.

1553
00:41:53,213 --> 00:41:55,347
>> A few times. Apparently,

1554
00:41:55,347 --> 00:41:56,113
it's getting out to other

1555
00:41:56,113 --> 00:41:57,513
people 'cause I didn't expect

1556
00:41:57,513 --> 00:42:00,513
the Housing Youth Authority or

1557
00:42:03,453 --> 00:42:05,453
the Youth Commission--a lot of

1558
00:42:05,453 --> 00:42:06,387
different people mention the

1559
00:42:06,387 --> 00:42:07,787
trails--school district,

1560
00:42:07,787 --> 00:42:08,753
I was talking

1561
00:42:08,753 --> 00:42:09,653
about safe routes

1562
00:42:09,653 --> 00:42:12,653
to school and trail system.

1563
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:15,287
Even Sacramento Safe Help

1564
00:42:15,287 --> 00:42:17,287
Housing mentioned active

1565
00:42:17,787 --> 00:42:20,870
transportation is key. The

1566
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:21,653
streets in Elk Grove are almost

1567
00:42:21,653 --> 00:42:22,587
freeway-like and are a big

1568
00:42:22,587 --> 00:42:23,187
barrier

1569
00:42:23,187 --> 00:42:24,553
to biking and walking. Make

1570
00:42:24,553 --> 00:42:26,953
sure there are sidewalks

1571
00:42:28,253 --> 00:42:29,653
everywhere and make it safe

1572
00:42:29,653 --> 00:42:33,253
to walk and/or bike. Youth

1573
00:42:33,587 --> 00:42:34,620
Commission I thought was very

1574
00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:36,487
interesting. You know, same

1575
00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:37,553
thing: bike lanes should be

1576
00:42:37,553 --> 00:42:39,953
separated from the road.

1577
00:42:40,287 --> 00:42:40,987
Everyone drives

1578
00:42:40,987 --> 00:42:41,687
in the bike lane,

1579
00:42:41,687 --> 00:42:42,687
so it's not safe. Some

1580
00:42:42,687 --> 00:42:44,870
suggestion, green ways,

1581
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:45,787
mixed use pass separated

1582
00:42:45,787 --> 00:42:47,387
from the roadways. The trail

1583
00:42:47,387 --> 00:42:49,153
should be connected,

1584
00:42:49,153 --> 00:42:50,287
and it should connect

1585
00:42:50,287 --> 00:42:52,453
to parks. And then overall from

1586
00:42:52,453 --> 00:42:54,853
the visioning workshops there

1587
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,120
was also talk

1588
00:42:58,293 --> 00:43:01,227
about the trails and so on. So

1589
00:43:01,227 --> 00:43:04,600
I think that speaks pretty well

1590
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,660
of what people like about Elk

1591
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:09,593
Grove and what they want

1592
00:43:09,593 --> 00:43:11,527
to see continue. One other

1593
00:43:11,527 --> 00:43:12,793
thing that's not trail related

1594
00:43:12,793 --> 00:43:15,193
that I didn't even--wasn't

1595
00:43:15,393 --> 00:43:16,493
looking for when I read this

1596
00:43:16,493 --> 00:43:18,227
but came

1597
00:43:18,227 --> 00:43:21,227
across it is the expansion

1598
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,227
of the City. I saw all these

1599
00:43:26,227 --> 00:43:28,193
different groups, but the only

1600
00:43:28,193 --> 00:43:31,793
group that was pro expand the

1601
00:43:32,193 --> 00:43:35,793
boundaries of the City was the

1602
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,193
developers. The whole group was

1603
00:43:37,193 --> 00:43:37,727
a bunch

1604
00:43:37,727 --> 00:43:38,960
of housing developers. Some

1605
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,493
of them are probably sitting in

1606
00:43:40,493 --> 00:43:41,860
the back and probably not

1607
00:43:41,860 --> 00:43:42,827
liking me right now.

1608
00:43:42,827 --> 00:43:43,393
But anyway, I'd just throw it

1609
00:43:43,393 --> 00:43:45,427
out there that it doesn't

1610
00:43:45,427 --> 00:43:47,427
seem--I don't see the

1611
00:43:47,427 --> 00:43:48,927
Multicultural Committee and the

1612
00:43:48,927 --> 00:43:51,127
Youth Commission saying we need

1613
00:43:51,127 --> 00:43:53,727
to expand our City, you know,

1614
00:43:53,727 --> 00:43:54,660
we need more housing,

1615
00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:56,960
more blowing past Kammerer

1616
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,300
Road to the south. I know there

1617
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:01,167
was probably a need for it and

1618
00:44:01,167 --> 00:44:02,600
will happen probably someday.

1619
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,700
But, you know, so I have kind

1620
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:05,100
of been out there. And

1621
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:06,900
since I got nine of you here,

1622
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,133
I'll throw it out there,

1623
00:44:08,133 --> 00:44:09,400
that you need to listen

1624
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,533
to your constituents,

1625
00:44:10,533 --> 00:44:11,967
the people that live here. And

1626
00:44:11,967 --> 00:44:13,800
I don't know,

1627
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,767
I read this whole thing cover

1628
00:44:14,767 --> 00:44:16,333
to cover and I didn't see one

1629
00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:17,633
group besides the developer

1630
00:44:17,633 --> 00:44:19,767
group that was, you know, hey,

1631
00:44:19,767 --> 00:44:20,433
we need a bigger city

1632
00:44:20,433 --> 00:44:22,000
to make a better city,

1633
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,467
'cause we really don't. So

1634
00:44:23,467 --> 00:44:24,233
appreciate your time,

1635
00:44:24,233 --> 00:44:25,333
thank you.

1636
00:44:25,333 --> 00:44:25,933
>> Thanks, Mark. All right,

1637
00:44:25,933 --> 00:44:28,933
Leo, you're up. If anybody

1638
00:44:30,667 --> 00:44:31,133
would like to speak after

1639
00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:33,600
Leo, please get your form in

1640
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,633
'cause I don't have anybody

1641
00:44:34,633 --> 00:44:37,330
else at this point.

1642
00:44:38,267 --> 00:44:38,967
>> Good evening,

1643
00:44:38,967 --> 00:44:39,633
Councilmembers and

1644
00:44:39,633 --> 00:44:41,767
Commissioners. I appreciate all

1645
00:44:41,767 --> 00:44:42,700
the work you're putting

1646
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:44,300
into this whole thing. It's

1647
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:46,100
very valuable. It's going

1648
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:47,567
to be the most valuable thing,

1649
00:44:47,567 --> 00:44:50,330
I think, that the City has. As

1650
00:44:50,330 --> 00:44:51,900
for myself,

1651
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:53,367
I'm a lifelong resident

1652
00:44:53,367 --> 00:44:54,733
of the area. I was raised

1653
00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:56,167
on what is now the Pilgrim

1654
00:44:56,167 --> 00:44:58,400
Ranch on Sloughhouse Road. And

1655
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,400
I've lived

1656
00:45:00,473 --> 00:45:03,940
in my place for--before I moved

1657
00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:05,340
out here, I was the last class

1658
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:07,207
out of the old historic

1659
00:45:07,207 --> 00:45:09,207
Rhoads School down

1660
00:45:10,273 --> 00:45:14,140
at the park. And I just tell

1661
00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:15,940
you that because I dye my hair

1662
00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:17,573
white, it's not because

1663
00:45:17,573 --> 00:45:21,173
of my age. But you're all

1664
00:45:22,707 --> 00:45:24,730
to be very much complimented

1665
00:45:24,730 --> 00:45:25,540
for doing this. I think it's a

1666
00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:27,673
very, very important element

1667
00:45:27,673 --> 00:45:30,207
for the future of this City.

1668
00:45:30,207 --> 00:45:32,807
And we all, us that live out

1669
00:45:32,807 --> 00:45:33,573
in the rural area,

1670
00:45:33,573 --> 00:45:34,773
we treasure it. And one

1671
00:45:34,773 --> 00:45:38,373
of the things that I've got

1672
00:45:38,807 --> 00:45:40,107
to compliment all of you for is

1673
00:45:40,107 --> 00:45:41,507
you've supported us all this

1674
00:45:41,507 --> 00:45:44,507
time through. And in talking

1675
00:45:45,673 --> 00:45:47,173
to Jason, it looks

1676
00:45:47,173 --> 00:45:49,173
like we're going

1677
00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:51,107
to finally put an end to the

1678
00:45:51,107 --> 00:45:52,607
General Plan, and that's very

1679
00:45:52,607 --> 00:45:54,107
important. That'll keep it

1680
00:45:54,107 --> 00:45:57,240
in place. The other thing that

1681
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:01,440
I want to say is the biggest

1682
00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:04,913
issue that we have out there,

1683
00:46:04,913 --> 00:46:07,913
to my knowledge, is traffic.

1684
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,480
So when the circulation element

1685
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,647
is put together in the

1686
00:46:12,647 --> 00:46:14,913
General Plan, I would suggest

1687
00:46:14,913 --> 00:46:16,913
that staff meet,

1688
00:46:17,847 --> 00:46:18,813
have a few more meetings

1689
00:46:18,813 --> 00:46:19,947
with the people out there so

1690
00:46:19,947 --> 00:46:22,847
they can--you know, we can

1691
00:46:22,847 --> 00:46:24,213
express our concerns and maybe

1692
00:46:24,213 --> 00:46:26,313
they can get more information

1693
00:46:26,313 --> 00:46:27,713
that we can help them

1694
00:46:27,713 --> 00:46:28,780
with too.

1695
00:46:28,780 --> 00:46:30,380
But other than that, there's

1696
00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:32,680
nothing we can do other than

1697
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,647
thank you

1698
00:46:33,647 --> 00:46:34,580
for everything you've done

1699
00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:36,180
to support us, all of you.

1700
00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:37,713
Thank you very much. And people

1701
00:46:37,713 --> 00:46:39,713
like Shane Diller here,

1702
00:46:39,713 --> 00:46:41,180
he has worked with us,

1703
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:42,347
and every time there's an

1704
00:46:42,347 --> 00:46:45,180
issue, he gets it resolved.

1705
00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:47,847
And that's the kind of topnotch

1706
00:46:47,847 --> 00:46:49,113
people we have here and

1707
00:46:49,113 --> 00:46:50,847
in our City. You're

1708
00:46:50,847 --> 00:46:52,113
to be complimented. Thank you

1709
00:46:52,113 --> 00:46:53,247
so much.

1710
00:46:53,247 --> 00:46:54,113
>> Thank you very much, Leo.

1711
00:46:54,113 --> 00:46:55,130
You nailed it. I mean Shane is

1712
00:46:55,130 --> 00:46:56,713
an example,

1713
00:46:56,713 --> 00:46:58,353
but I think that is everybody

1714
00:46:58,353 --> 00:47:00,220
on City staff though.

1715
00:47:00,220 --> 00:47:01,287
>> Mr. Mayor, can we start

1716
00:47:01,287 --> 00:47:02,453
Leo's clock over again? I'd

1717
00:47:02,453 --> 00:47:03,320
like to have him come back up

1718
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,320
here.

1719
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,220
>> All right, thanks, Pat.

1720
00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:12,120
>> He was joking. Beth, you're

1721
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,520
next. And by way,

1722
00:47:17,753 --> 00:47:19,220
I didn't announce it earlier,

1723
00:47:19,220 --> 00:47:19,887
so if you would like to

1724
00:47:19,887 --> 00:47:20,853
participate and make some

1725
00:47:20,853 --> 00:47:22,487
comments, you can. Just please

1726
00:47:22,487 --> 00:47:23,187
fill

1727
00:47:23,187 --> 00:47:23,987
out the speaker request form

1728
00:47:23,987 --> 00:47:24,820
at the back

1729
00:47:24,820 --> 00:47:25,520
of the room and bring it up

1730
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520
here to Jason.

1731
00:47:27,653 --> 00:47:28,220
>> All right, I'm Beth

1732
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:30,953
Ruthven, and like Leo, I was

1733
00:47:30,953 --> 00:47:32,387
born and raised here in Elk

1734
00:47:32,387 --> 00:47:33,653
Grove, and I appreciate all the

1735
00:47:33,653 --> 00:47:35,200
work done on the General

1736
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Plan. And I'd like

1737
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,720
to piggyback on what Leo said

1738
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,530
in terms of the rural area.

1739
00:47:40,530 --> 00:47:41,200
That's extraordinarily

1740
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,587
important to us. And I think

1741
00:47:42,587 --> 00:47:43,920
that's reflected in a lot of

1742
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,320
community wishes. I think

1743
00:47:46,487 --> 00:47:48,553
perhaps that one of the issues

1744
00:47:48,553 --> 00:47:50,953
in bringing both east and west

1745
00:47:50,953 --> 00:47:52,853
together is that as long as

1746
00:47:52,853 --> 00:47:54,953
there are concerns about

1747
00:47:54,953 --> 00:47:56,120
whether or not the rural area

1748
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,253
will be preserved,

1749
00:47:57,253 --> 00:47:58,270
that it's going

1750
00:47:58,270 --> 00:48:00,593
to be an us or them kind of

1751
00:48:00,593 --> 00:48:01,793
problem. I know working as a

1752
00:48:01,793 --> 00:48:03,760
teacher at Elk Grove High

1753
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,260
School that when it comes

1754
00:48:06,260 --> 00:48:08,327
to promoting headlines for

1755
00:48:08,327 --> 00:48:10,693
Elk Grove, one of the things

1756
00:48:10,693 --> 00:48:13,493
that we do every year is we

1757
00:48:13,493 --> 00:48:14,993
take lots and lots of awards

1758
00:48:14,993 --> 00:48:16,993
through our ad program. Our

1759
00:48:16,993 --> 00:48:19,993
rural kids who attend our

1760
00:48:20,930 --> 00:48:23,930
school attend and have an

1761
00:48:23,260 --> 00:48:25,260
opportunity to participate

1762
00:48:25,993 --> 00:48:28,493
in one of the most amazing ad

1763
00:48:28,493 --> 00:48:30,160
programs. And these are our

1764
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,860
country kids. And we'll lose

1765
00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:33,893
that if we lose the character

1766
00:48:33,893 --> 00:48:36,160
of our country areas.

1767
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,527
Personally, I miss it. I still

1768
00:48:38,527 --> 00:48:40,393
live in the rural community,

1769
00:48:40,393 --> 00:48:42,270
but it does not feel

1770
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:43,493
like it used to. And so I'd

1771
00:48:43,493 --> 00:48:45,460
like to see it reflected

1772
00:48:45,460 --> 00:48:46,927
in the General Plan that we're

1773
00:48:46,927 --> 00:48:49,727
working on taking care of that

1774
00:48:49,727 --> 00:48:53,327
and ensuring that it will stay.

1775
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,527
And in fact, trying to maybe

1776
00:48:55,527 --> 00:48:58,167
make some changes so that

1777
00:48:58,167 --> 00:49:01,767
Sheldon Road does not become a

1778
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:03,733
main artery,

1779
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:06,100
so that the portion of Sheldon

1780
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,500
that's just beautiful and

1781
00:49:08,767 --> 00:49:10,300
overhung with oaks,

1782
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:11,633
that we can maybe extend that.

1783
00:49:11,633 --> 00:49:12,900
And I know our homeowners'

1784
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:14,267
association is interested

1785
00:49:14,267 --> 00:49:16,167
in partnering with the City

1786
00:49:16,167 --> 00:49:18,167
in providing trees

1787
00:49:18,167 --> 00:49:20,200
to help make that happen. We do

1788
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:20,900
need to look

1789
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:22,933
at traffic calming measures.

1790
00:49:22,933 --> 00:49:24,200
But that really needs

1791
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,267
to be respected in the

1792
00:49:25,267 --> 00:49:27,667
General Plan. And I think that

1793
00:49:27,667 --> 00:49:29,267
would resolve a lot of the us

1794
00:49:29,267 --> 00:49:31,267
against them stuff. As long as

1795
00:49:31,267 --> 00:49:32,733
the rural community kind

1796
00:49:32,733 --> 00:49:34,233
of feels threatened, when we

1797
00:49:34,233 --> 00:49:36,367
have such a long history there

1798
00:49:36,367 --> 00:49:38,670
and we have kids involved in

1799
00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:40,833
this stuff and this is just

1800
00:49:40,833 --> 00:49:41,600
such a part of our roots,

1801
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,567
there's always going to be,

1802
00:49:42,567 --> 00:49:44,500
you know, some headbutting.

1803
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:45,333
And I don't think it would be a

1804
00:49:45,333 --> 00:49:46,330
difficult thing

1805
00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:47,967
to resolve overall. Anyway,

1806
00:49:47,967 --> 00:49:49,567
just wanted to throw that

1807
00:49:49,567 --> 00:49:51,467
out there. And

1808
00:49:51,467 --> 00:49:52,533
in case you weren't aware,

1809
00:49:52,533 --> 00:49:53,933
right,

1810
00:49:53,933 --> 00:49:56,567
we do nationally recognized ad

1811
00:49:56,567 --> 00:49:57,433
programs, so we need

1812
00:49:57,433 --> 00:49:58,667
to support our kids,

1813
00:49:58,667 --> 00:49:59,667
right?

1814
00:49:59,667 --> 00:50:01,267
>> Yep, well said, Beth. I

1815
00:50:01,267 --> 00:50:02,767
think everyone here knows when

1816
00:50:02,767 --> 00:50:03,667
you go to the state fair,

1817
00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:04,500
the county fair, and that Elk

1818
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:06,500
Grove dominates. And not just

1819
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:07,667
Elk Grove High School, you

1820
00:50:07,667 --> 00:50:08,600
know, many of our high schools

1821
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,800
dominate.

1822
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,133
>> Nationally ----

1823
00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:12,100
>> Yep.

1824
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,100
>> ---- so anyway.

1825
00:50:14,567 --> 00:50:16,567
>> Agreed. Thank you.

1826
00:50:18,933 --> 00:50:19,567
>> Not that I'm partial

1827
00:50:19,567 --> 00:50:21,000
to us --.

1828
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,133
>> Okay. Anyone else care

1829
00:50:22,133 --> 00:50:25,300
to share? Do we have further

1830
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:27,300
staff presentation?

1831
00:50:36,867 --> 00:50:37,467
>> Good evening,

1832
00:50:37,467 --> 00:50:38,667
Commissioners, Councilmembers.

1833
00:50:38,667 --> 00:50:39,600
I'm Jeff Henderson, Special

1834
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Projects Manager with the

1835
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,330
City. And I'm going to take us

1836
00:50:42,330 --> 00:50:43,167
through the second half

1837
00:50:43,167 --> 00:50:45,167
of our presentation,

1838
00:50:45,533 --> 00:50:47,100
which is really on the draft

1839
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:49,100
shared community vision,

1840
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,167
two modifiers there. Draft

1841
00:50:52,167 --> 00:50:54,400
in the sense that this is, you

1842
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,633
know, all of it looks kind

1843
00:50:55,633 --> 00:50:57,507
of glossy and flashy. It's a

1844
00:50:57,507 --> 00:50:58,730
work

1845
00:50:58,730 --> 00:50:58,707
in progress and it's meant

1846
00:50:58,707 --> 00:51:01,173
to be that. This is the

1847
00:51:01,173 --> 00:51:02,473
starting point, this is some

1848
00:51:02,473 --> 00:51:04,700
of the first texts, if you

1849
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:05,340
will, that we're drafting

1850
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:06,573
for the actual General Plan.

1851
00:51:06,573 --> 00:51:08,573
And the purpose

1852
00:51:08,573 --> 00:51:09,673
of tonight's discussion is

1853
00:51:09,673 --> 00:51:11,240
to share

1854
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:12,573
with you our initial thoughts

1855
00:51:12,573 --> 00:51:13,807
on what the vision looks

1856
00:51:13,807 --> 00:51:14,473
like based on all

1857
00:51:14,473 --> 00:51:16,773
of the input that Nora and

1858
00:51:16,773 --> 00:51:18,730
Sara summarized earlier and

1859
00:51:18,730 --> 00:51:21,173
to relay that as a draft, to

1860
00:51:21,173 --> 00:51:22,707
say this is our starting point.

1861
00:51:22,707 --> 00:51:24,407
And as Christopher mentioned

1862
00:51:24,407 --> 00:51:25,773
earlier, it can and should be

1863
00:51:25,773 --> 00:51:28,273
tweaked a bit as the policy

1864
00:51:28,273 --> 00:51:29,507
discussion progresses.

1865
00:51:29,507 --> 00:51:30,573
But it sets

1866
00:51:30,573 --> 00:51:32,700
for us that initial course

1867
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:33,607
for the direction that we want

1868
00:51:33,607 --> 00:51:35,673
to go for the next 15 years.

1869
00:51:35,673 --> 00:51:38,407
It outlines what we believe

1870
00:51:38,407 --> 00:51:39,940
to be a good vision for

1871
00:51:39,940 --> 00:51:41,940
essentially bringing the

1872
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:43,940
community together

1873
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:45,730
toward a common vision.

1874
00:51:45,730 --> 00:51:46,740
Again, trying to say, you know,

1875
00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:47,373
one

1876
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:48,730
of the objectives potentially

1877
00:51:48,730 --> 00:51:49,873
of this plan going forward is

1878
00:51:49,873 --> 00:51:51,773
so that 15 years from now,

1879
00:51:51,773 --> 00:51:53,307
when we're here talking about a

1880
00:51:53,307 --> 00:51:54,540
potential general plan update

1881
00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:55,940
again, you know,

1882
00:51:55,940 --> 00:51:57,880
maybe the initial point of

1883
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,180
conversation isn't an east-west

1884
00:51:59,180 --> 00:52:00,247
divide,

1885
00:52:00,247 --> 00:52:00,980
it's some other new challenge

1886
00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:01,947
or issue, but that that's

1887
00:52:01,947 --> 00:52:02,780
something that we've

1888
00:52:02,780 --> 00:52:04,713
potentially worked

1889
00:52:04,713 --> 00:52:05,647
toward resolving

1890
00:52:05,647 --> 00:52:06,647
over the course of the nest 15

1891
00:52:06,647 --> 00:52:08,147
years. So it's a more common

1892
00:52:08,147 --> 00:52:09,480
vision

1893
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,713
toward a brighter future,

1894
00:52:11,713 --> 00:52:12,713
which is one of the key themes

1895
00:52:12,713 --> 00:52:14,413
of the General Plan update.

1896
00:52:14,413 --> 00:52:15,147
And it really represents a

1897
00:52:15,147 --> 00:52:16,613
summary of where the City is

1898
00:52:16,613 --> 00:52:18,613
going to go, what it's going

1899
00:52:18,613 --> 00:52:19,747
to do, and how it will do it.

1900
00:52:19,747 --> 00:52:21,147
That's ultimately what the

1901
00:52:21,147 --> 00:52:22,213
General Plan does. This

1902
00:52:22,213 --> 00:52:24,147
document really kind of starts

1903
00:52:24,147 --> 00:52:25,613
with that first bullet point,

1904
00:52:25,613 --> 00:52:27,470
where do we want to go? What do

1905
00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:28,847
we want to be in 15 to 20

1906
00:52:28,847 --> 00:52:31,547
years? The vision is used

1907
00:52:31,547 --> 00:52:33,547
ultimately in conjunction

1908
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,680
with the rest of the General

1909
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,680
Plan--sorry -- back.

1910
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,613
It's used in tandem

1911
00:52:40,613 --> 00:52:41,800
with the policies and actions

1912
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,280
of the General Plan. This is

1913
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,513
sort of the first step, the

1914
00:52:44,513 --> 00:52:46,213
very top level step that's then

1915
00:52:46,213 --> 00:52:47,847
implemented further

1916
00:52:47,847 --> 00:52:49,247
with goals, policies,

1917
00:52:49,247 --> 00:52:51,280
and actions. To use

1918
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,613
Christopher's analogy earlier

1919
00:52:52,613 --> 00:52:54,447
about driving east, you know,

1920
00:52:54,447 --> 00:52:55,613
we know we're going to the

1921
00:52:55,613 --> 00:52:57,453
East Coast, just as an analogy,

1922
00:52:57,453 --> 00:52:58,853
we know we're going to the

1923
00:52:58,853 --> 00:52:59,887
East Coast. We don't know yet

1924
00:52:59,887 --> 00:53:01,487
whether we're aiming more

1925
00:53:01,487 --> 00:53:03,553
toward Boston or more toward

1926
00:53:03,553 --> 00:53:04,887
Miami. As we move farther east,

1927
00:53:04,887 --> 00:53:06,187
we start choosing highways,

1928
00:53:06,187 --> 00:53:08,253
we start determining the

1929
00:53:08,253 --> 00:53:09,287
timeframe, how fast we want

1930
00:53:09,287 --> 00:53:10,920
to go, and ultimately what the

1931
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,530
final destination is. And

1932
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:14,453
that's a process that can be

1933
00:53:14,453 --> 00:53:15,753
kind of drawn parallel

1934
00:53:15,753 --> 00:53:17,653
from this vision level,

1935
00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:18,787
where we're essentially

1936
00:53:18,787 --> 00:53:19,853
pointing east,

1937
00:53:19,853 --> 00:53:21,187
and an action level which says,

1938
00:53:21,187 --> 00:53:21,753
you know,

1939
00:53:21,753 --> 00:53:24,870
at what timeframe and by what

1940
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:25,753
mode and how fast are we going

1941
00:53:25,753 --> 00:53:28,787
to get, say, Washington, D.C.

1942
00:53:28,787 --> 00:53:31,587
as our destination. So that's

1943
00:53:31,587 --> 00:53:33,530
really an analogy

1944
00:53:33,530 --> 00:53:34,620
for where this vision fits in

1945
00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:36,387
to the overall system.

1946
00:53:36,387 --> 00:53:37,787
In our next Roundabout Reach

1947
00:53:37,787 --> 00:53:39,120
that we'll initiate

1948
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,653
after the first of the year, in

1949
00:53:40,653 --> 00:53:41,200
future joint study

1950
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,887
sessions--and at the end

1951
00:53:42,887 --> 00:53:44,200
of the meeting we're going to

1952
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,420
outlay the calendar that we've

1953
00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:47,200
selected for getting us

1954
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,653
from where we are now

1955
00:53:48,653 --> 00:53:51,287
to a very key timeframe in

1956
00:53:51,287 --> 00:53:52,987
June where we'd be presenting a

1957
00:53:52,987 --> 00:53:54,287
preferred alternative that's

1958
00:53:54,287 --> 00:53:55,420
the basis for the plan,

1959
00:53:55,420 --> 00:53:57,127
and then ultimately

1960
00:53:57,127 --> 00:53:58,260
to the release

1961
00:53:58,260 --> 00:53:58,927
of the draft plan

1962
00:53:58,927 --> 00:54:00,860
toward the end of next year.

1963
00:54:00,860 --> 00:54:01,793
And those study sessions are

1964
00:54:01,793 --> 00:54:02,393
very important points. This one

1965
00:54:02,393 --> 00:54:04,893
is the first. These are very

1966
00:54:04,893 --> 00:54:06,127
important points for us

1967
00:54:06,127 --> 00:54:07,460
to essentially check

1968
00:54:07,460 --> 00:54:09,560
in and say, is this

1969
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,270
on the right direction,

1970
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:12,227
shall we proceed

1971
00:54:12,227 --> 00:54:13,560
to the next step? And that's

1972
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,460
really the type

1973
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:14,893
of direction we're seeking

1974
00:54:14,893 --> 00:54:18,493
from you tonight. So I'm going

1975
00:54:19,227 --> 00:54:20,193
to take a minute, and this is

1976
00:54:20,193 --> 00:54:21,360
the one slide I'm going

1977
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,627
to read, because this is

1978
00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:25,160
ultimately the draft

1979
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,160
of the community vision itself.

1980
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,560
And it's describing Elk Grove

1981
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,927
in fifteen years. So when we

1982
00:54:31,927 --> 00:54:33,360
talk about the tense

1983
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,627
of this statement,

1984
00:54:34,627 --> 00:54:35,693
we're talking

1985
00:54:35,693 --> 00:54:37,127
about the community I 15 years.

1986
00:54:37,127 --> 00:54:38,560
"As Elk Grove is a great place

1987
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:39,793
to make a home and a great

1988
00:54:39,793 --> 00:54:41,860
place to work, our community is

1989
00:54:41,860 --> 00:54:43,827
healthy and safe and is

1990
00:54:43,827 --> 00:54:45,827
family-oriented with thriving

1991
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,360
schools and plentiful parks,

1992
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,600
shops, and places to work.

1993
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,460
Agriculture, rural homes, and

1994
00:54:52,460 --> 00:54:54,860
urban life flourish together.

1995
00:54:57,133 --> 00:54:58,467
Our natural resources,

1996
00:54:58,467 --> 00:54:59,900
including water and open

1997
00:54:59,900 --> 00:55:01,670
spaces, are protected and offer

1998
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:02,367
a variety

1999
00:55:02,367 --> 00:55:03,633
of recreational opportunities.

2000
00:55:03,633 --> 00:55:06,330
Community members travel easily

2001
00:55:06,670 --> 00:55:08,467
by automobile, by bicycle,

2002
00:55:08,767 --> 00:55:11,767
on foot, or using transit.

2003
00:55:12,433 --> 00:55:14,267
The City's proactive is making

2004
00:55:14,267 --> 00:55:16,330
daily life healthy and

2005
00:55:16,330 --> 00:55:17,767
sustainable,

2006
00:55:17,767 --> 00:55:18,933
considering the needs of future

2007
00:55:18,933 --> 00:55:20,467
generations while protecting

2008
00:55:20,467 --> 00:55:22,233
what is valued today.

2009
00:55:22,233 --> 00:55:24,233
Well-maintained infrastructure

2010
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:26,167
and the right mix of services

2011
00:55:26,167 --> 00:55:28,000
and amenities draw new and

2012
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,433
dynamic businesses and

2013
00:55:29,433 --> 00:55:32,433
development to Elk Grove. And

2014
00:55:32,567 --> 00:55:34,533
development is guided to ensure

2015
00:55:34,533 --> 00:55:36,500
responsible growth and

2016
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,267
opportunities for a diversity

2017
00:55:38,267 --> 00:55:39,567
of individuals that call Elk

2018
00:55:39,567 --> 00:55:41,500
Grove home." So you'll see a

2019
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:42,233
lot

2020
00:55:42,233 --> 00:55:43,500
of different themes reflected

2021
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:44,567
in there. And when we think

2022
00:55:44,567 --> 00:55:45,700
back to the topics of the

2023
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:46,933
General Plan, one of the things

2024
00:55:46,933 --> 00:55:48,100
the vision statement is

2025
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,000
intending to do is to try

2026
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,567
to kind of touch all those

2027
00:55:50,567 --> 00:55:51,767
bases and make a statement

2028
00:55:51,767 --> 00:55:52,967
about what's the future

2029
00:55:52,967 --> 00:55:54,800
direction with regard to the

2030
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,000
various topics that were

2031
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,173
mandated to address in the

2032
00:55:57,173 --> 00:55:59,807
General Plan. So this then is a

2033
00:55:59,807 --> 00:56:02,207
narrative statement. The intent

2034
00:56:02,273 --> 00:56:03,207
would be to place this

2035
00:56:03,207 --> 00:56:04,173
in the beginning of the

2036
00:56:04,173 --> 00:56:06,400
General Plan as setting the

2037
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,240
framework for the resulting

2038
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:08,940
goals and policies. And it's

2039
00:56:08,940 --> 00:56:10,173
referenced in the booklet

2040
00:56:10,173 --> 00:56:11,473
that's been distributed tonight

2041
00:56:11,473 --> 00:56:13,307
on page 13 by way

2042
00:56:13,307 --> 00:56:15,707
of reference. That vision

2043
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,807
statement is supported

2044
00:56:18,807 --> 00:56:21,400
by a number of what we call

2045
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,840
supporting principles. So we

2046
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,440
start

2047
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,700
from that vision statement, and

2048
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:26,207
then the supporting principles

2049
00:56:26,207 --> 00:56:28,700
dive in a little bit deeper,

2050
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:29,607
providing still guidance

2051
00:56:29,607 --> 00:56:31,773
statements on a variety

2052
00:56:31,773 --> 00:56:34,173
of very important topics. It is

2053
00:56:34,173 --> 00:56:35,607
possible this could be one way

2054
00:56:35,607 --> 00:56:36,607
that the General Plan is

2055
00:56:36,607 --> 00:56:38,407
organized. Again, that's not a

2056
00:56:38,407 --> 00:56:39,940
decision that's been made nor

2057
00:56:39,940 --> 00:56:41,140
necessarily recommendation

2058
00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:42,640
at this point, but it is an

2059
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,107
idea that we're potentially

2060
00:56:44,107 --> 00:56:46,607
kicking around. And that these

2061
00:56:46,607 --> 00:56:48,140
supporting principles then take

2062
00:56:48,140 --> 00:56:49,173
a topic like,

2063
00:56:49,173 --> 00:56:53,373
if we flip the page to 14, this

2064
00:56:54,573 --> 00:56:55,873
identifies the supporting

2065
00:56:55,873 --> 00:56:57,280
principles. If we go again

2066
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,647
to page 17, it will identify,

2067
00:56:59,647 --> 00:57:01,347
for example, one

2068
00:57:01,347 --> 00:57:02,280
of those first,

2069
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,647
the regional goals and

2070
00:57:03,647 --> 00:57:05,800
influence topic,

2071
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,347
with another statement, a

2072
00:57:06,347 --> 00:57:07,680
supporting statement: "Our

2073
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,470
regional neighbors know us and

2074
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:11,413
our contributions." This

2075
00:57:11,413 --> 00:57:12,480
responds in many ways

2076
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,680
to the dialogue that initiated

2077
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,247
in June about Elk Grove's place

2078
00:57:15,247 --> 00:57:17,680
in the region and the way the

2079
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,800
region and its overall

2080
00:57:20,947 --> 00:57:22,947
strategies consider perhaps

2081
00:57:23,147 --> 00:57:24,880
economic strategies,

2082
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,847
sustainability strategies and

2083
00:57:25,847 --> 00:57:27,130
the like, how those influence

2084
00:57:27,130 --> 00:57:28,800
Elk Grove. But in turn,

2085
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,580
this is also about Elk Grove's

2086
00:57:31,580 --> 00:57:33,847
place in this region from a

2087
00:57:33,847 --> 00:57:35,847
land resource perspective,

2088
00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:38,213
from an economic perspective,

2089
00:57:38,213 --> 00:57:39,347
what is it that Elk Grove

2090
00:57:39,347 --> 00:57:40,213
uniquely brings

2091
00:57:40,213 --> 00:57:41,747
to the region. And so it's a

2092
00:57:41,747 --> 00:57:44,470
statement that essentially says

2093
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:46,800
in the future, as is true

2094
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:47,780
today, Elk Grove occupies a

2095
00:57:47,780 --> 00:57:49,413
prominent place

2096
00:57:49,413 --> 00:57:50,913
in the regional dialogue.

2097
00:57:50,913 --> 00:57:52,547
That Elk Grove's contributions

2098
00:57:52,547 --> 00:57:53,280
to the region include

2099
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,280
recreation, higher education,

2100
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:57,720
job centers,

2101
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,320
and quality neighborhoods.

2102
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,187
That's a preliminary list. It

2103
00:58:01,187 --> 00:58:02,853
could certainly be added upon.

2104
00:58:02,853 --> 00:58:04,820
But I think from the types

2105
00:58:04,820 --> 00:58:06,153
of input that we've received,

2106
00:58:06,153 --> 00:58:07,987
these are the areas

2107
00:58:07,987 --> 00:58:09,653
around which the vision is kind

2108
00:58:09,653 --> 00:58:11,320
of stepping forward and saying

2109
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:11,887
here are some ways

2110
00:58:11,887 --> 00:58:12,487
in which we're going

2111
00:58:12,487 --> 00:58:13,953
to contribute to the region.

2112
00:58:13,953 --> 00:58:14,853
And ultimately, jobs/housing

2113
00:58:14,853 --> 00:58:16,787
balance becomes an important

2114
00:58:16,787 --> 00:58:18,287
consideration from a potential

2115
00:58:18,287 --> 00:58:20,120
policy perspective under this

2116
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,520
guiding principle or supporting

2117
00:58:22,587 --> 00:58:24,920
principle. And that's tied up

2118
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,587
in the final statement

2119
00:58:26,587 --> 00:58:29,487
under that setting, that both

2120
00:58:29,487 --> 00:58:29,987
housing and jobs are available

2121
00:58:29,987 --> 00:58:31,870
in the community providing

2122
00:58:31,870 --> 00:58:31,953
flexible opportunities

2123
00:58:31,953 --> 00:58:34,353
for different lifestyles. Next

2124
00:58:36,853 --> 00:58:38,787
key topic is referred

2125
00:58:38,787 --> 00:58:40,287
to as "Development Fills

2126
00:58:40,287 --> 00:58:42,420
in the Gaps." This is one

2127
00:58:42,420 --> 00:58:43,387
that's really kind of

2128
00:58:43,387 --> 00:58:44,853
about the growth strategy for

2129
00:58:44,853 --> 00:58:46,153
the community and how growth

2130
00:58:46,153 --> 00:58:47,887
would be managed in the future

2131
00:58:47,887 --> 00:58:49,987
in Elk Grove. And it's

2132
00:58:49,987 --> 00:58:51,187
recognizing that, you know,

2133
00:58:51,187 --> 00:58:52,187
today there are a number

2134
00:58:52,187 --> 00:58:53,553
of kind of undeveloped gaps

2135
00:58:53,553 --> 00:58:55,687
within the communities and we

2136
00:58:55,687 --> 00:58:56,993
recognize that these are key

2137
00:58:56,993 --> 00:58:58,727
opportunities to help bring

2138
00:58:58,727 --> 00:59:00,193
in the types

2139
00:59:00,193 --> 00:59:01,860
of additions that are wanted

2140
00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:02,593
in the City

2141
00:59:02,593 --> 00:59:03,693
from a economic perspective.

2142
00:59:03,693 --> 00:59:05,760
There's an emphasis here

2143
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,593
on small business preservation.

2144
00:59:07,593 --> 00:59:08,593
Again, from the principle

2145
00:59:08,593 --> 00:59:09,727
of the first step,

2146
00:59:09,727 --> 00:59:11,127
economic development is

2147
00:59:11,127 --> 00:59:11,793
to take care

2148
00:59:11,793 --> 00:59:13,930
of what you have, and then

2149
00:59:13,930 --> 00:59:13,927
to move forward and to attract

2150
00:59:13,927 --> 00:59:15,360
things that are compatible

2151
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,893
with your overall vision. It's

2152
00:59:17,893 --> 00:59:20,893
a recognition that new housing

2153
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,193
in the community is a need,

2154
00:59:23,193 --> 00:59:23,627
both

2155
00:59:23,627 --> 00:59:25,827
to protect affordability and to

2156
00:59:25,827 --> 00:59:27,827
improve that potential

2157
00:59:27,860 --> 00:59:29,160
jobs/housing balance and

2158
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,127
potentially to help improve

2159
00:59:31,127 --> 00:59:32,593
commuting distances and similar

2160
00:59:32,593 --> 00:59:34,993
topics within the community.

2161
00:59:37,427 --> 00:59:38,327
And a recognition that the

2162
00:59:38,327 --> 00:59:40,293
City's growth strategy may

2163
00:59:40,293 --> 00:59:42,293
involve both infill

2164
00:59:42,460 --> 00:59:44,560
into these existing kinds

2165
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,993
of gaps within the community

2166
00:59:45,993 --> 00:59:48,393
and establishing a creative

2167
00:59:48,427 --> 00:59:49,827
growth management strategy for

2168
00:59:49,827 --> 00:59:52,327
if and how outward expansion

2169
00:59:52,327 --> 00:59:54,600
occurs. And, you know, one

2170
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,193
of the pieces of dialogue that

2171
00:59:55,193 --> 00:59:57,160
we've heard throughout this

2172
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,993
process is, if the City's going

2173
00:59:58,993 --> 00:59:59,860
to continue

2174
00:59:59,860 --> 01:00:01,893
to expand outward, that the

2175
01:00:01,893 --> 01:00:03,260
General Plan should lay the

2176
01:00:03,260 --> 01:00:03,893
framework

2177
01:00:03,893 --> 01:00:05,993
under which that occurs. And so

2178
01:00:05,993 --> 01:00:06,893
that, you know,

2179
01:00:06,893 --> 01:00:07,893
there's some statement

2180
01:00:07,893 --> 01:00:08,827
in here that talks

2181
01:00:08,827 --> 01:00:09,693
about the types

2182
01:00:09,693 --> 01:00:11,693
of things that would be needed

2183
01:00:11,693 --> 01:00:12,460
in order

2184
01:00:12,460 --> 01:00:13,493
to enable that development

2185
01:00:13,493 --> 01:00:14,427
to occur

2186
01:00:14,427 --> 01:00:15,627
in a fashion consistent

2187
01:00:15,627 --> 01:00:17,827
with the General Plan. So

2188
01:00:17,827 --> 01:00:19,160
that's an important

2189
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,493
consideration as we go forward

2190
01:00:21,493 --> 01:00:23,160
as well. The next topic is "Our

2191
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,560
Economy Thrives and New

2192
01:00:26,293 --> 01:00:28,793
Businesses Add Value." This is

2193
01:00:28,793 --> 01:00:31,793
recognizing the fact that Elk

2194
01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:33,993
Grove is and should continue

2195
01:00:33,993 --> 01:00:35,927
to--is a diverse economy now

2196
01:00:35,927 --> 01:00:36,927
and should continue to

2197
01:00:36,927 --> 01:00:38,327
diversify its economic

2198
01:00:38,327 --> 01:00:40,927
strengths and become a more

2199
01:00:40,927 --> 01:00:41,827
major employment center

2200
01:00:41,827 --> 01:00:43,727
in the region. That's going

2201
01:00:43,727 --> 01:00:44,693
to be one of the important

2202
01:00:44,693 --> 01:00:46,270
strategies going forward,

2203
01:00:46,270 --> 01:00:47,960
that the City should encourage

2204
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,493
an innovative technology

2205
01:00:49,493 --> 01:00:51,493
infrastructure and continue

2206
01:00:52,693 --> 01:00:54,327
to build upon the opportunity

2207
01:00:54,327 --> 01:00:55,627
to provide technical education

2208
01:00:55,627 --> 01:00:57,627
or opportunities,

2209
01:00:58,670 --> 01:01:00,000
and that plentiful goods,

2210
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,767
services, activities and

2211
01:01:01,767 --> 01:01:03,400
entertainment remain an

2212
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:04,433
important part

2213
01:01:04,433 --> 01:01:05,900
of the mix that, again, draws

2214
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:07,367
people here and helps

2215
01:01:07,367 --> 01:01:08,433
businesses to thrive

2216
01:01:08,433 --> 01:01:12,330
in the community. The next key

2217
01:01:12,367 --> 01:01:14,767
topic gets to sort

2218
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,833
of the balance between citywide

2219
01:01:16,833 --> 01:01:19,233
values and neighborhood values.

2220
01:01:19,533 --> 01:01:20,867
And this is titled "City Core

2221
01:01:20,867 --> 01:01:22,867
Heritage and Well-Known

2222
01:01:22,867 --> 01:01:24,167
Neighborhoods." And it

2223
01:01:24,167 --> 01:01:25,200
recognizes that

2224
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,200
in the future, you know, the

2225
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,700
City in 15 years from now,

2226
01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:29,167
we recognize the existence

2227
01:01:29,167 --> 01:01:31,100
of a civic core. You know, this

2228
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:32,267
could include a civics center

2229
01:01:32,267 --> 01:01:33,767
and surrounding uses,

2230
01:01:33,767 --> 01:01:36,567
for example. So civic core, it

2231
01:01:36,567 --> 01:01:38,967
gives good central gathering

2232
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:42,100
places for community members,

2233
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,367
something in a physical sense

2234
01:01:44,367 --> 01:01:45,700
that unites the east and west

2235
01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:46,533
sides in that regard,

2236
01:01:46,533 --> 01:01:48,900
and that Old Town,

2237
01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:50,233
for example, continues

2238
01:01:50,233 --> 01:01:53,233
to grow and protect--I'm sorry,

2239
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:54,900
not grow, but that Old Town

2240
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:56,000
Elk Grove continues

2241
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,873
to protect and showcase the

2242
01:01:57,873 --> 01:02:00,607
City's history and is a

2243
01:02:00,607 --> 01:02:01,507
valuable resource

2244
01:02:01,507 --> 01:02:02,673
for continuing

2245
01:02:02,673 --> 01:02:04,400
to communicate the history

2246
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,673
of the City. And that

2247
01:02:05,673 --> 01:02:07,340
neighborhoods are an important

2248
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:09,907
value. And that as they're

2249
01:02:09,907 --> 01:02:11,707
organized around your topnotch

2250
01:02:11,707 --> 01:02:13,440
parks and schools, and that

2251
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,873
that interplay is valued going

2252
01:02:14,873 --> 01:02:17,440
forward and is indeed the model

2253
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,207
for which new development

2254
01:02:19,207 --> 01:02:20,840
continues to occur. And that

2255
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,240
the preservation and change

2256
01:02:24,507 --> 01:02:25,573
in neighborhoods is guided

2257
01:02:25,573 --> 01:02:27,400
by local values,

2258
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,507
and local values centered

2259
01:02:28,507 --> 01:02:31,107
on diversity within the City,

2260
01:02:31,107 --> 01:02:32,507
neighborly spirit that exists

2261
01:02:32,507 --> 01:02:34,140
in current neighborhoods,

2262
01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:35,540
and ultimately protection

2263
01:02:35,540 --> 01:02:37,307
of small town character. Even

2264
01:02:37,307 --> 01:02:38,407
as a large community, by doing

2265
01:02:38,407 --> 01:02:39,640
good neighborhood planning, you

2266
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,340
can protect that small town

2267
01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:42,240
character

2268
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,907
by essentially connecting

2269
01:02:43,907 --> 01:02:46,173
people to neighborhoods. The

2270
01:02:46,173 --> 01:02:48,573
next topic is dedicated

2271
01:02:48,673 --> 01:02:50,307
to "Protecting Our Farming

2272
01:02:50,307 --> 01:02:52,373
Heritage and Rural Life." This

2273
01:02:52,373 --> 01:02:53,707
is where essentially the

2274
01:02:53,707 --> 01:02:55,940
strategies for the rural area

2275
01:02:55,940 --> 01:02:57,747
are incapsulated. And the

2276
01:02:57,747 --> 01:02:59,247
intent here is to use the

2277
01:02:59,247 --> 01:03:00,680
General Plan to celebrate rural

2278
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,780
life as a part

2279
01:03:02,780 --> 01:03:04,113
of the community. And you think

2280
01:03:04,113 --> 01:03:05,613
back to the vision statement

2281
01:03:05,613 --> 01:03:06,347
that was the statement

2282
01:03:06,347 --> 01:03:07,447
essentially

2283
01:03:07,447 --> 01:03:09,780
about agriculture, rural and

2284
01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:11,780
urban, all coexisting,

2285
01:03:11,980 --> 01:03:12,613
and that that's part

2286
01:03:12,613 --> 01:03:13,613
of the vision

2287
01:03:13,613 --> 01:03:15,800
of the community. This really

2288
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:15,780
gets

2289
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:16,947
to celebrating the rural aspect

2290
01:03:16,947 --> 01:03:18,780
of that, while recognizing that

2291
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:20,213
there's going to continue

2292
01:03:20,213 --> 01:03:21,613
to be a bit of a struggle

2293
01:03:21,613 --> 01:03:22,747
in balancing that rural

2294
01:03:22,747 --> 01:03:24,313
heritage

2295
01:03:24,313 --> 01:03:25,680
with all the other needs,

2296
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,580
services,

2297
01:03:26,580 --> 01:03:27,647
and lifestyles that are desired

2298
01:03:27,647 --> 01:03:29,680
by Elk Grove residents. And so

2299
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,800
it's an important thing, I

2300
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:32,280
think, from our perspective

2301
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,680
to document the commitment

2302
01:03:34,747 --> 01:03:36,147
to the rural area and

2303
01:03:36,147 --> 01:03:37,413
to maintenance of the rural

2304
01:03:37,413 --> 01:03:39,180
area and its character in the

2305
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:41,547
General Plan. And they've got a

2306
01:03:41,547 --> 01:03:42,647
fundamental value of the

2307
01:03:42,647 --> 01:03:44,347
General Plan that then every

2308
01:03:44,347 --> 01:03:46,513
other planning decision on a

2309
01:03:46,513 --> 01:03:47,947
day-to-day basis is measured

2310
01:03:47,947 --> 01:03:50,180
against, but to do that in a

2311
01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:52,513
manner that also addresses all

2312
01:03:52,513 --> 01:03:53,647
the other needs

2313
01:03:53,647 --> 01:03:55,680
in the community. And so just,

2314
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,253
again, reinforcing a commitment

2315
01:03:57,253 --> 01:03:59,420
that the rural area is valued,

2316
01:03:59,420 --> 01:04:00,987
and that that value is clear

2317
01:04:00,987 --> 01:04:02,520
and codified in all of the

2318
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,870
City's planning documents. And

2319
01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:05,520
the best way to do that is

2320
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,487
to start with the General Plan

2321
01:04:06,487 --> 01:04:09,487
and role down. The next

2322
01:04:13,187 --> 01:04:14,120
principle is "Outdoor

2323
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:14,787
Recreation is Right Outside

2324
01:04:14,787 --> 01:04:17,200
Our Door." And this gets

2325
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,220
to some of the open space and

2326
01:04:18,220 --> 01:04:19,653
conservation topics required

2327
01:04:19,653 --> 01:04:20,753
by General Plan law. And it

2328
01:04:20,753 --> 01:04:23,870
starts with really valuing the

2329
01:04:23,870 --> 01:04:25,187
parks and trails in the

2330
01:04:25,187 --> 01:04:27,153
community and ensuring that,

2331
01:04:27,153 --> 01:04:27,787
you know,

2332
01:04:27,787 --> 01:04:28,553
we are continually working

2333
01:04:28,553 --> 01:04:30,420
toward a consistent and

2334
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:32,120
connected system that is

2335
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,687
of high quality and continues

2336
01:04:33,687 --> 01:04:34,787
to be highly valued

2337
01:04:34,787 --> 01:04:36,487
by residents and those looking

2338
01:04:36,487 --> 01:04:38,787
to locate in Elk Grove and

2339
01:04:38,787 --> 01:04:39,320
really sort

2340
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,287
of portrayed as an amenity,

2341
01:04:41,287 --> 01:04:42,253
portrayed as a community

2342
01:04:42,253 --> 01:04:44,553
amenity of Elk Grove, and that

2343
01:04:44,553 --> 01:04:45,920
we enhance and maintain our

2344
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,687
recreational open spaces. And

2345
01:04:47,687 --> 01:04:48,287
again,

2346
01:04:48,287 --> 01:04:49,287
here we're conveying some

2347
01:04:49,287 --> 01:04:50,353
values for these open spaces

2348
01:04:50,353 --> 01:04:52,753
of safety, connection, and

2349
01:04:53,653 --> 01:04:55,353
accessibility, and building the

2350
01:04:55,353 --> 01:04:57,353
essentially open-spaced plan

2351
01:04:57,993 --> 01:05:00,393
around those principles. And

2352
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:01,660
then ultimately,

2353
01:05:01,660 --> 01:05:03,160
looking outward and saying,

2354
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:04,893
you know, we have a good

2355
01:05:04,893 --> 01:05:06,930
valuable trail system that's

2356
01:05:06,930 --> 01:05:07,460
only enhanced by connecting

2357
01:05:07,460 --> 01:05:07,860
to other things

2358
01:05:07,860 --> 01:05:10,930
in the region. It produces

2359
01:05:10,930 --> 01:05:12,600
potential transportation

2360
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,293
benefits,

2361
01:05:13,293 --> 01:05:14,460
it produces potential health

2362
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:15,593
benefits,

2363
01:05:15,593 --> 01:05:17,427
and further connects Elk Grove

2364
01:05:17,427 --> 01:05:18,660
to a larger region. The key

2365
01:05:18,660 --> 01:05:21,600
circulation principle here is

2366
01:05:23,460 --> 01:05:24,860
titled "Moving Around

2367
01:05:24,860 --> 01:05:27,793
Anywhere, Any Way." And it's a

2368
01:05:27,793 --> 01:05:30,193
recognition that people need

2369
01:05:30,893 --> 01:05:32,893
to move

2370
01:05:32,893 --> 01:05:33,527
around efficiently and they

2371
01:05:33,527 --> 01:05:35,593
need to be provided a variety

2372
01:05:35,593 --> 01:05:37,193
of ways to do it,

2373
01:05:37,193 --> 01:05:39,227
and that that results through

2374
01:05:39,227 --> 01:05:40,627
connected transportation

2375
01:05:40,627 --> 01:05:42,293
networks, further regional

2376
01:05:42,293 --> 01:05:43,960
coordination,

2377
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,930
and providing options to the

2378
01:05:46,930 --> 01:05:47,727
single occupancy vehicle. Not

2379
01:05:47,727 --> 01:05:49,293
replacing single occupancy

2380
01:05:49,293 --> 01:05:50,993
vehicle but providing options

2381
01:05:50,993 --> 01:05:52,493
to it that are viable and

2382
01:05:52,493 --> 01:05:54,893
support everyday activity. And

2383
01:05:56,427 --> 01:05:56,967
that's done

2384
01:05:56,967 --> 01:05:58,100
through encouraging a variety

2385
01:05:58,100 --> 01:05:59,933
of transportation modes and

2386
01:05:59,933 --> 01:06:01,700
ensuring both efficiency and

2387
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:04,467
safety in the roadway system.

2388
01:06:04,467 --> 01:06:05,533
And one of the provisions

2389
01:06:05,533 --> 01:06:06,667
of state law that we are

2390
01:06:06,667 --> 01:06:08,267
working to comply with

2391
01:06:08,267 --> 01:06:09,500
within the General Plan update

2392
01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:11,833
is the requirement to address a

2393
01:06:11,833 --> 01:06:13,467
complete streets transportation

2394
01:06:13,467 --> 01:06:14,833
system. And so there's

2395
01:06:14,833 --> 01:06:16,833
recognition at the vision and

2396
01:06:16,833 --> 01:06:18,433
guiding principle level,

2397
01:06:18,433 --> 01:06:19,100
so all the way up

2398
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:20,233
at this level,

2399
01:06:20,233 --> 01:06:21,133
that there's necessary

2400
01:06:21,133 --> 01:06:22,267
to provide facilities

2401
01:06:22,267 --> 01:06:24,200
for peds, pedestrians,

2402
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,600
bicyclists, and transit users

2403
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:27,700
as well as a variety

2404
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:30,133
of other users in clean, safe,

2405
01:06:30,133 --> 01:06:32,133
and well-maintained facilities.

2406
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,500
The next is "Clean Green

2407
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:38,467
Practices and Healthy

2408
01:06:38,467 --> 01:06:39,467
Living." So this is really

2409
01:06:39,467 --> 01:06:40,733
getting to sustainability and

2410
01:06:40,733 --> 01:06:42,133
health considerations of the

2411
01:06:42,133 --> 01:06:44,467
General Plan. And it's a goal

2412
01:06:44,467 --> 01:06:46,367
for the City to, you know,

2413
01:06:46,367 --> 01:06:47,767
looking back on this General

2414
01:06:47,767 --> 01:06:49,333
Plan and its implementation as

2415
01:06:49,333 --> 01:06:50,567
the City accomplished the goal

2416
01:06:50,567 --> 01:06:52,670
of being a leader in regional

2417
01:06:52,670 --> 01:06:54,670
conservation efforts and

2418
01:06:54,433 --> 01:06:56,133
understanding the roles

2419
01:06:56,133 --> 01:06:58,730
of organizations, businesses,

2420
01:06:58,730 --> 01:06:59,540
and residents in assisting in

2421
01:06:59,540 --> 01:07:01,540
accomplishing that objective.

2422
01:07:03,107 --> 01:07:04,540
Embracing innovations and green

2423
01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:06,273
technologies is a good

2424
01:07:06,273 --> 01:07:07,940
connection, if you will,

2425
01:07:07,940 --> 01:07:09,707
between conservation goals and

2426
01:07:09,707 --> 01:07:10,973
economic development goals

2427
01:07:10,973 --> 01:07:12,240
potentially and looking

2428
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,700
at that and understanding, you

2429
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:14,973
know, can we develop policies

2430
01:07:14,973 --> 01:07:15,873
that advance us

2431
01:07:15,873 --> 01:07:18,273
toward those objectives. And

2432
01:07:18,507 --> 01:07:19,673
that the City's layout and land

2433
01:07:19,673 --> 01:07:21,373
uses promote healthy living

2434
01:07:21,373 --> 01:07:23,807
with healthy food options and

2435
01:07:23,807 --> 01:07:26,207
destinations nearby. So those

2436
01:07:26,407 --> 01:07:27,973
are also important

2437
01:07:27,973 --> 01:07:29,730
considerations under the clean

2438
01:07:29,730 --> 01:07:30,807
green practices and healthy

2439
01:07:30,807 --> 01:07:33,807
living principle. And the final

2440
01:07:35,873 --> 01:07:37,807
one is "Services for the Needs

2441
01:07:37,807 --> 01:07:39,907
of All Residents." This really

2442
01:07:39,907 --> 01:07:41,473
gets to community services,

2443
01:07:41,473 --> 01:07:42,973
infrastructure and potentially

2444
01:07:42,973 --> 01:07:45,273
social service impacts of the

2445
01:07:45,273 --> 01:07:46,307
General Plan and laying out a

2446
01:07:46,307 --> 01:07:48,707
strategy that connects those

2447
01:07:48,807 --> 01:07:50,507
services and facilities to the

2448
01:07:50,507 --> 01:07:52,907
broader land use perspective.

2449
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,607
And under this, you know,

2450
01:07:55,607 --> 01:07:56,713
safety and services are

2451
01:07:56,713 --> 01:07:57,913
recognized as important

2452
01:07:57,913 --> 01:07:58,847
to all members

2453
01:07:58,847 --> 01:08:00,470
of the community,

2454
01:08:00,470 --> 01:08:02,447
with particular emphasis on

2455
01:08:02,513 --> 01:08:03,880
youth and seniors as well as

2456
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,880
disadvantaged families

2457
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,247
within the community. And then

2458
01:08:07,247 --> 01:08:08,713
the City stepping forward to

2459
01:08:08,713 --> 01:08:10,470
ensure that services are

2460
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:11,347
provided, not committing

2461
01:08:11,347 --> 01:08:12,813
to provide services itself,

2462
01:08:12,813 --> 01:08:15,947
but in its role, ensuring that

2463
01:08:15,947 --> 01:08:17,280
residents and businesses have

2464
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,113
access to adequate social,

2465
01:08:19,113 --> 01:08:20,847
housing, transportation,

2466
01:08:20,847 --> 01:08:22,470
health,

2467
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:24,113
and education services. This is

2468
01:08:24,113 --> 01:08:26,713
something that was underlying a

2469
01:08:26,713 --> 01:08:28,800
lot of the dialogue with the

2470
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,247
community that we've had over

2471
01:08:29,247 --> 01:08:30,347
the last several months and

2472
01:08:30,347 --> 01:08:31,280
something that we as a team

2473
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:32,980
were kind of very intrigued

2474
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:34,347
to hear,

2475
01:08:34,347 --> 01:08:36,800
was a strong emphasis and value

2476
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:37,647
on social services

2477
01:08:37,647 --> 01:08:38,713
within the community

2478
01:08:38,713 --> 01:08:39,647
in the context of a General

2479
01:08:39,647 --> 01:08:40,947
Plan. And so it's something

2480
01:08:40,947 --> 01:08:41,780
that we felt important

2481
01:08:41,780 --> 01:08:42,880
to bring forward

2482
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,847
at this level. And that

2483
01:08:44,847 --> 01:08:45,247
entertainment and social

2484
01:08:45,247 --> 01:08:47,380
centers, kind of thinking more

2485
01:08:47,380 --> 01:08:48,780
about the economic component

2486
01:08:48,780 --> 01:08:50,147
of this, support a thriving

2487
01:08:50,147 --> 01:08:52,547
economy and give residents

2488
01:08:52,913 --> 01:08:54,247
places in the community

2489
01:08:54,247 --> 01:08:55,880
to shop, to play, and just

2490
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,880
to relax and enjoy aspects

2491
01:08:59,587 --> 01:09:01,987
of the community. That

2492
01:09:03,153 --> 01:09:05,553
summarizes the overall vision

2493
01:09:05,587 --> 01:09:07,787
and supporting principles. I've

2494
01:09:07,787 --> 01:09:09,320
got a couple slides just

2495
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,687
to summarize next steps, and

2496
01:09:10,687 --> 01:09:12,187
then we'll have another period

2497
01:09:12,187 --> 01:09:13,720
for discussion and public

2498
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,653
comment. And I'll invite

2499
01:09:14,653 --> 01:09:16,220
Christopher to come up and

2500
01:09:16,220 --> 01:09:18,220
conclude the presentation.

2501
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,153
>> Thanks, Jeff. So very

2502
01:09:23,153 --> 01:09:24,187
briefly, as you'll see

2503
01:09:24,187 --> 01:09:25,653
on the screen, are what we see

2504
01:09:25,653 --> 01:09:26,787
as the next steps

2505
01:09:26,787 --> 01:09:28,487
to dive down. And we talked

2506
01:09:28,487 --> 01:09:29,453
about this a little bit ago.

2507
01:09:29,453 --> 01:09:31,530
And some of these key points

2508
01:09:31,530 --> 01:09:32,987
are the three workshops that

2509
01:09:32,987 --> 01:09:34,653
Sara identified a minute ago

2510
01:09:34,653 --> 01:09:35,820
and are summarized here: a

2511
01:09:35,820 --> 01:09:36,553
discussion

2512
01:09:36,553 --> 01:09:37,487
about neighborhood identity,

2513
01:09:37,487 --> 01:09:38,887
about growth strategies, and

2514
01:09:38,887 --> 01:09:39,653
about transportation and

2515
01:09:39,653 --> 01:09:41,253
mobility. As you'll see

2516
01:09:41,253 --> 01:09:42,320
in the next slide,

2517
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,120
we're identifying the end of

2518
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,220
January and first part of

2519
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:45,753
February to have that community

2520
01:09:45,753 --> 01:09:47,200
engagement and go through that

2521
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,530
process and dialogue those

2522
01:09:49,530 --> 01:09:50,153
issues

2523
01:09:50,153 --> 01:09:50,887
in more detail and start

2524
01:09:50,887 --> 01:09:52,520
to prepare the initial rounds

2525
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,853
of a policy discussion

2526
01:09:53,853 --> 01:09:55,453
around those. That would be

2527
01:09:55,453 --> 01:09:56,353
followed up

2528
01:09:56,353 --> 01:09:57,520
by your next joint study

2529
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,120
session on February 11th,

2530
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,453
where we kind

2531
01:10:00,453 --> 01:10:01,530
of summarize the results

2532
01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:02,653
of that and start to articulate

2533
01:10:02,653 --> 01:10:04,520
where that information is

2534
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,387
taking us and how we can

2535
01:10:06,387 --> 01:10:07,553
proceed forward

2536
01:10:07,553 --> 01:10:09,820
in the drafting of the plan.

2537
01:10:09,820 --> 01:10:10,320
So that brings us

2538
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:11,587
to nearly the midpoint

2539
01:10:11,587 --> 01:10:13,653
in the overall work process.

2540
01:10:13,653 --> 01:10:14,720
So the dates that we're

2541
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,387
targeting

2542
01:10:15,387 --> 01:10:16,187
for that community engagement

2543
01:10:16,187 --> 01:10:17,520
on those three topics,

2544
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,353
and we don't have dates

2545
01:10:18,353 --> 01:10:20,520
specific to those topics yet,

2546
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:21,520
we'll be working on those

2547
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,920
over the next couple of weeks

2548
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:23,887
and then announcing them in the

2549
01:10:23,887 --> 01:10:25,187
new year once folks are back

2550
01:10:25,187 --> 01:10:26,687
from the holiday.

2551
01:10:26,687 --> 01:10:28,353
But the dates themselves

2552
01:10:28,353 --> 01:10:29,787
in this room are January 26 and

2553
01:10:29,787 --> 01:10:32,153
28 and February 1st. So they're

2554
01:10:32,153 --> 01:10:33,420
right on top of each other. But

2555
01:10:33,420 --> 01:10:35,820
given the importance and the

2556
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:36,853
schedule over all

2557
01:10:36,853 --> 01:10:37,987
of where we are and trying to

2558
01:10:37,987 --> 01:10:39,553
keep this process moving and

2559
01:10:39,553 --> 01:10:40,853
getting the information

2560
01:10:40,853 --> 01:10:41,987
together and developing the

2561
01:10:41,987 --> 01:10:43,687
plan from a time schedule

2562
01:10:43,687 --> 01:10:44,687
perspective,

2563
01:10:44,687 --> 01:10:46,870
these are important dates

2564
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:49,870
for us. So with that,

2565
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:50,487
we'll open up

2566
01:10:50,487 --> 01:10:50,987
for comment and discussion,

2567
01:10:50,987 --> 01:10:52,653
both from -- and

2568
01:10:52,653 --> 01:10:54,530
from the public.

2569
01:10:54,530 --> 01:10:56,530
>> Okay. Councilman Detrick.

2570
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,960
>> You know, from where we are

2571
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,693
in the process, I think you

2572
01:11:02,693 --> 01:11:04,660
guys nailed it so far. You

2573
01:11:04,660 --> 01:11:05,760
know, there's still--obviously

2574
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:06,427
there's going

2575
01:11:06,427 --> 01:11:07,560
to be some tweaking going on,

2576
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,327
but for where we are, I'm very,

2577
01:11:10,327 --> 01:11:12,560
very impressed what's been put

2578
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,360
together and the all that the

2579
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:15,993
variety

2580
01:11:15,993 --> 01:11:16,860
of topics you've been able to

2581
01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:19,327
hit. I'm just--and the piece

2582
01:11:19,327 --> 01:11:21,560
itself is not only towards the

2583
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:22,393
General Plan, I mean the

2584
01:11:22,393 --> 01:11:24,293
marketing of the City of Elk

2585
01:11:24,293 --> 01:11:27,893
Grove. And I give you guys--you

2586
01:11:28,827 --> 01:11:31,127
know, you guys hit it out

2587
01:11:31,127 --> 01:11:34,270
of the park. I look forward

2588
01:11:34,270 --> 01:11:35,493
to hearing some other comments

2589
01:11:35,493 --> 01:11:36,827
from everybody. But I'm very,

2590
01:11:36,827 --> 01:11:38,693
very impressed. Thank you.

2591
01:11:38,693 --> 01:11:39,660
>> Councilman Suen.

2592
01:11:39,660 --> 01:11:40,860
>> Yeah, I would definitely

2593
01:11:40,860 --> 01:11:42,160
echo those comments and that

2594
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,160
sentiment. You've taken a very

2595
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,360
complex document,

2596
01:11:48,927 --> 01:11:49,960
and the way things are

2597
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:50,960
connected together,

2598
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:51,860
there's a lot of nuances

2599
01:11:51,860 --> 01:11:53,460
to every single topic. And so

2600
01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:54,827
you're approach thus far I

2601
01:11:54,827 --> 01:11:57,333
think has been very good

2602
01:11:57,333 --> 01:11:58,833
in terms of your outreach. And

2603
01:11:58,833 --> 01:12:00,600
what's coming out was

2604
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,000
resonating amongst the public.

2605
01:12:03,333 --> 01:12:04,833
I would risk saying that all

2606
01:12:04,833 --> 01:12:06,267
of us up here agree with

2607
01:12:06,267 --> 01:12:07,100
everything that's been stated

2608
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:09,867
thus far. So I look forward to

2609
01:12:09,867 --> 01:12:11,600
the next steps and additional

2610
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,367
outreach opportunities.

2611
01:12:13,367 --> 01:12:15,267
Thanks.

2612
01:12:15,267 --> 01:12:17,267
>> Councilman Hume.

2613
01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:18,500
>> So I'll echo those comments.

2614
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:19,367
I mean I think

2615
01:12:19,367 --> 01:12:20,267
from where you are,

2616
01:12:20,267 --> 01:12:20,967
you're tapping

2617
01:12:20,967 --> 01:12:21,867
into things that I wanted

2618
01:12:21,867 --> 01:12:22,467
to see come out

2619
01:12:22,467 --> 01:12:22,833
of this process, and

2620
01:12:22,833 --> 01:12:24,533
from listening to some

2621
01:12:24,533 --> 01:12:25,300
of the comments here tonight,

2622
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:26,367
certainly echoing what the

2623
01:12:26,367 --> 01:12:27,500
residents are wanting

2624
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:28,400
to see come out

2625
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:29,467
of this process. I'm going

2626
01:12:29,467 --> 01:12:30,333
to go into little more specific

2627
01:12:30,333 --> 01:12:31,400
comments about some

2628
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,900
of the items though,

2629
01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:35,133
other than just heap praise

2630
01:12:35,133 --> 01:12:37,600
on you. My first question is,

2631
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,670
what is the horizon of this

2632
01:12:39,670 --> 01:12:40,000
General Plan once this update

2633
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,967
is completed? Does it--another

2634
01:12:41,967 --> 01:12:43,967
20 years?

2635
01:12:45,867 --> 01:12:46,567
>> So this has actually been a

2636
01:12:46,567 --> 01:12:48,167
discussion amongst our group at

2637
01:12:48,167 --> 01:12:49,667
a staff level. I professionally

2638
01:12:49,667 --> 01:12:51,533
am of the opinion that while

2639
01:12:51,533 --> 01:12:52,900
you do an update on the

2640
01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:54,367
General Plan, maybe it's 10,

2641
01:12:54,367 --> 01:12:55,767
15 years, whatever's right

2642
01:12:55,767 --> 01:12:57,140
for the community,

2643
01:12:57,140 --> 01:12:58,673
you should never box yourself

2644
01:12:58,673 --> 01:13:01,340
in to a specific timeframe--so

2645
01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:03,207
by 2030 we're going to be

2646
01:13:03,207 --> 01:13:04,273
this-- because the community is

2647
01:13:04,273 --> 01:13:05,707
always changing. There's always

2648
01:13:05,707 --> 01:13:08,700
something new to think about.

2649
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:09,173
And you should be visionary

2650
01:13:09,173 --> 01:13:10,540
at a vision level

2651
01:13:10,540 --> 01:13:12,240
of what's the broad approach.

2652
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,107
And certainly, as you get

2653
01:13:13,107 --> 01:13:14,107
into the implementation,

2654
01:13:14,107 --> 01:13:15,700
there should be benchmarks of

2655
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:16,673
how you are working towards

2656
01:13:16,673 --> 01:13:18,373
achieving that vision. But to

2657
01:13:18,373 --> 01:13:20,373
just unilaterally say there's a

2658
01:13:20,373 --> 01:13:22,730
date and we're going

2659
01:13:22,730 --> 01:13:23,373
to hit this by this date,

2660
01:13:23,373 --> 01:13:25,140
I think shortchanges the intent

2661
01:13:25,140 --> 01:13:26,507
of what a general plan is

2662
01:13:26,507 --> 01:13:28,240
supposed to be. Now that said,

2663
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,473
from an environmental review

2664
01:13:30,473 --> 01:13:31,807
perspective, it has to go

2665
01:13:31,807 --> 01:13:33,607
along with this, there has

2666
01:13:33,607 --> 01:13:35,273
to be a sort of timeframe. You

2667
01:13:35,273 --> 01:13:36,573
have to start marrying these

2668
01:13:36,573 --> 01:13:37,940
things together. And

2669
01:13:37,940 --> 01:13:39,140
from that standpoint, what will

2670
01:13:39,140 --> 01:13:41,873
likely be used is--and we

2671
01:13:41,873 --> 01:13:42,840
talked about this from the

2672
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,840
regional supporting statements

2673
01:13:46,773 --> 01:13:48,640
of connecting with other plans

2674
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,730
and other studies

2675
01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:51,807
around the region--the

2676
01:13:51,807 --> 01:13:53,473
Sacramento Council governs its

2677
01:13:53,473 --> 01:13:54,507
metropolitan transportation

2678
01:13:54,507 --> 01:13:55,440
plan,

2679
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:56,347
the sustainable community

2680
01:13:56,347 --> 01:13:57,313
strategy,

2681
01:13:57,313 --> 01:13:59,180
and the growth timeframe. It

2682
01:13:59,180 --> 01:14:00,147
identifies from a

2683
01:14:00,147 --> 01:14:01,813
transportation perspective,

2684
01:14:01,813 --> 01:14:02,980
is what's commonly used

2685
01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:03,813
to do that. So I think it's

2686
01:14:03,813 --> 01:14:05,380
2036, the current version. So

2687
01:14:05,380 --> 01:14:06,747
that information at a

2688
01:14:06,747 --> 01:14:08,747
transportation level would

2689
01:14:08,913 --> 01:14:10,713
likely be a benchmark date

2690
01:14:10,713 --> 01:14:12,113
to use. When you're looking

2691
01:14:12,113 --> 01:14:13,247
at that, puts you at about 20

2692
01:14:13,247 --> 01:14:15,247
years--yeah, 20 years out.

2693
01:14:18,713 --> 01:14:19,813
>> I appreciate that answer

2694
01:14:19,813 --> 01:14:21,213
because you're right, it is a

2695
01:14:21,213 --> 01:14:22,313
living document that you refer

2696
01:14:22,313 --> 01:14:25,800
to as you're going along. It's

2697
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:25,847
not something that you blow the

2698
01:14:25,847 --> 01:14:28,113
dust off of and go,

2699
01:14:28,113 --> 01:14:28,780
how did we do at the end

2700
01:14:28,780 --> 01:14:31,130
of it all? But I want to point

2701
01:14:31,130 --> 01:14:32,280
out something that I think it's

2702
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,280
kind of shocking to me and it

2703
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:35,980
takes a little while for it

2704
01:14:35,980 --> 01:14:36,980
to sink in, and that is it'll

2705
01:14:36,980 --> 01:14:38,713
become more apparent in

2706
01:14:38,713 --> 01:14:39,913
January 'cause the math will

2707
01:14:39,913 --> 01:14:41,380
become easier, but

2708
01:14:41,380 --> 01:14:42,713
at some point in June, we are

2709
01:14:42,713 --> 01:14:44,413
now closer to 2030 than we are

2710
01:14:44,413 --> 01:14:46,813
to 2000. And that's just

2711
01:14:46,947 --> 01:14:48,247
mindboggling

2712
01:14:48,247 --> 01:14:48,913
to me when I think

2713
01:14:48,913 --> 01:14:50,800
about it.

2714
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,780
>> Thanks again --.

2715
01:14:51,780 --> 01:14:53,780
I'm getting old.

2716
01:14:54,713 --> 01:14:55,313
>> But--so one

2717
01:14:55,313 --> 01:14:56,187
of the things that I saw in

2718
01:14:56,187 --> 01:14:57,620
this callout is that by--and I

2719
01:14:57,620 --> 01:14:58,553
think 2030 was the date

2720
01:14:58,553 --> 01:14:59,820
used--that the projected

2721
01:14:59,820 --> 01:15:01,120
population adds another 40,000

2722
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,587
or so residents to the City

2723
01:15:03,587 --> 01:15:06,720
of Elk Grove. And so that's

2724
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,120
more than doubled the size of

2725
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,153
Elk Grove when we grew up,

2726
01:15:10,153 --> 01:15:11,787
maybe the size of New Helvetia

2727
01:15:11,787 --> 01:15:14,187
when Leo grew up.

2728
01:15:15,820 --> 01:15:18,820
But those are a lot

2729
01:15:19,220 --> 01:15:20,287
of people. And then when you

2730
01:15:20,287 --> 01:15:21,487
look at what is the overall

2731
01:15:21,487 --> 01:15:23,353
glacial speed

2732
01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:25,787
of growth absorption, you know,

2733
01:15:25,787 --> 01:15:27,353
for local examples, Laguna

2734
01:15:27,353 --> 01:15:28,453
Ridge took over six years

2735
01:15:28,453 --> 01:15:29,753
to plan,

2736
01:15:29,753 --> 01:15:30,587
and it's probably going

2737
01:15:30,587 --> 01:15:32,253
to be close to 12, 15 years

2738
01:15:32,253 --> 01:15:33,620
for full buildout. We're

2739
01:15:33,620 --> 01:15:35,200
already 10 years

2740
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:36,920
into it now. SEPA,

2741
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,920
similar lead time

2742
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,253
on the planning effort. And

2743
01:15:40,253 --> 01:15:41,653
these were in areas

2744
01:15:41,653 --> 01:15:44,530
of that were already sort

2745
01:15:44,530 --> 01:15:45,420
of cleared for growth, so

2746
01:15:45,420 --> 01:15:47,530
to speak. And so I want

2747
01:15:47,530 --> 01:15:48,687
to talk

2748
01:15:48,687 --> 01:15:51,687
about the infill and expansion.

2749
01:15:51,787 --> 01:15:53,320
Infill is always important.

2750
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:53,987
You always want

2751
01:15:53,987 --> 01:15:55,927
to use up your available land,

2752
01:15:55,927 --> 01:15:57,593
because if you pass it

2753
01:15:57,593 --> 01:15:58,893
over and growth just keeps

2754
01:15:58,893 --> 01:15:59,693
on going,

2755
01:15:59,693 --> 01:16:00,493
then it's less desirable

2756
01:16:00,493 --> 01:16:02,327
to come back to. And there's a

2757
01:16:02,327 --> 01:16:03,393
lot of problems created

2758
01:16:03,393 --> 01:16:05,593
by empty lots. But what I want

2759
01:16:05,593 --> 01:16:06,327
to make sure that this

2760
01:16:06,327 --> 01:16:08,270
General Plan definitely does is

2761
01:16:08,270 --> 01:16:10,927
remove the Sheldon area or the

2762
01:16:10,927 --> 01:16:11,560
rural area

2763
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,660
from that equation. Those large

2764
01:16:13,660 --> 01:16:14,960
parcels

2765
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,393
of land are not available for

2766
01:16:16,393 --> 01:16:18,270
infill development and they are

2767
01:16:18,270 --> 01:16:19,260
not to be calculated when other

2768
01:16:19,260 --> 01:16:20,827
agencies and other folks take a

2769
01:16:20,827 --> 01:16:23,860
look at where Elk Grove can put

2770
01:16:23,860 --> 01:16:25,560
more density. It's not

2771
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,393
on the table. And so I'd like

2772
01:16:27,393 --> 01:16:28,293
to see the General Plan

2773
01:16:28,293 --> 01:16:29,793
absolutely crystal clear

2774
01:16:29,793 --> 01:16:30,893
on that point, and not just in,

2775
01:16:30,893 --> 01:16:32,893
say, land use,

2776
01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:36,193
but that the fingers of it go

2777
01:16:36,193 --> 01:16:37,427
into the other elements as

2778
01:16:37,427 --> 01:16:39,660
well. And so in that regard,

2779
01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:41,293
on page 18

2780
01:16:41,293 --> 01:16:42,260
of the document where it talks

2781
01:16:42,260 --> 01:16:44,327
about infill and existing

2782
01:16:44,327 --> 01:16:45,493
development, it says, "A create

2783
01:16:45,493 --> 01:16:46,493
growth management strategy

2784
01:16:46,493 --> 01:16:47,793
allows expansion to recur only

2785
01:16:47,793 --> 01:16:50,160
when economic need, community

2786
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,693
vision and regional goals

2787
01:16:51,693 --> 01:16:54,930
align." I appreciate the

2788
01:16:55,693 --> 01:16:56,833
sentiment of that statement,

2789
01:16:56,833 --> 01:16:57,500
but I think if that gets

2790
01:16:57,500 --> 01:16:58,833
codified into a General Plan,

2791
01:16:58,833 --> 01:17:00,433
that's a very dicey situation.

2792
01:17:00,433 --> 01:17:01,133
Because you have a very

2793
01:17:01,133 --> 01:17:02,600
constrained qualifier and only

2794
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,467
followed by some very nebulous

2795
01:17:04,467 --> 01:17:06,867
conditions that aren't clearly

2796
01:17:08,867 --> 01:17:09,733
stated. Economic need

2797
01:17:09,733 --> 01:17:11,433
for whom? Who's benefitting

2798
01:17:11,433 --> 01:17:13,600
from it? Community vision as

2799
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,333
stated by whom? Regional goals

2800
01:17:16,333 --> 01:17:18,800
that who established? And so I

2801
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,367
just want to be careful that

2802
01:17:20,367 --> 01:17:21,833
when we use language

2803
01:17:21,833 --> 01:17:22,500
like that,

2804
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:24,133
we're not pinning ourselves

2805
01:17:24,133 --> 01:17:25,400
into a box that somebody else

2806
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,467
is going to use our words

2807
01:17:27,467 --> 01:17:29,800
against us at the end of it.

2808
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,467
But, Jeff, you said something

2809
01:17:32,467 --> 01:17:33,667
that I thought was great,

2810
01:17:33,667 --> 01:17:35,300
and something that I've heard

2811
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:36,467
from the community, and it's to

2812
01:17:36,467 --> 01:17:38,467
really strengthen and document

2813
01:17:38,467 --> 01:17:39,200
the character

2814
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,667
of the rural area. This is not

2815
01:17:40,667 --> 01:17:42,300
a vision of what we want

2816
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:44,500
to be, it's what it is and what

2817
01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:46,233
it's going to remain to be.

2818
01:17:46,233 --> 01:17:46,733
And I know that

2819
01:17:46,733 --> 01:17:49,467
in the initial General Plan we

2820
01:17:49,467 --> 01:17:51,767
put actual policies, no wet

2821
01:17:51,767 --> 01:17:54,167
utilities, into the area.

2822
01:17:55,233 --> 01:17:56,607
Things that will by the nature

2823
01:17:56,607 --> 01:17:58,140
of them keep that

2824
01:17:58,140 --> 01:18:00,507
from happening. And so I'd

2825
01:18:00,507 --> 01:18:02,173
like to see areas where we can

2826
01:18:02,173 --> 01:18:04,573
strengthen those ideas. The

2827
01:18:04,607 --> 01:18:05,873
other thing I'd like to see

2828
01:18:05,873 --> 01:18:08,400
in respect to that is our

2829
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,400
farming heritage,

2830
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,407
and that that not only goes to

2831
01:18:13,407 --> 01:18:15,407
strengthen the rural character,

2832
01:18:15,407 --> 01:18:16,840
but it also talks about our

2833
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,373
economic development and our

2834
01:18:18,373 --> 01:18:19,540
infill strategies and these

2835
01:18:19,540 --> 01:18:20,607
types of things. You know,

2836
01:18:20,607 --> 01:18:22,840
farm to fork is a huge regional

2837
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,730
moment right now. We should be

2838
01:18:24,730 --> 01:18:24,907
looking

2839
01:18:24,907 --> 01:18:26,207
at food processing facilities.

2840
01:18:26,207 --> 01:18:27,107
We should be looking

2841
01:18:27,107 --> 01:18:28,540
at micro farm--how does the

2842
01:18:28,540 --> 01:18:30,807
City encourage micro farming

2843
01:18:30,807 --> 01:18:32,207
in the Sheldon area,

2844
01:18:32,207 --> 01:18:33,640
so that these chefs can have,

2845
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,140
you know, Sheldon Road carrots

2846
01:18:36,140 --> 01:18:37,440
for their whatever. You know

2847
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:38,707
what I mean? And this type

2848
01:18:38,707 --> 01:18:39,540
of thing. And that's what I

2849
01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:41,740
like about the General Plan is

2850
01:18:41,740 --> 01:18:43,340
that it establishes the

2851
01:18:43,340 --> 01:18:45,273
overarching goal. This is what

2852
01:18:45,273 --> 01:18:45,840
we want

2853
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,707
to be when we grow up,

2854
01:18:47,707 --> 01:18:48,473
this is how we're going

2855
01:18:48,473 --> 01:18:49,840
to get there, and then it has

2856
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,400
the policies that say these are

2857
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,407
the things that we would like

2858
01:18:52,407 --> 01:18:53,473
to see happen,

2859
01:18:53,473 --> 01:18:54,140
and then it calls out

2860
01:18:54,140 --> 01:18:55,780
like some action items that,

2861
01:18:55,780 --> 01:18:57,613
well, we will put this in place

2862
01:18:57,613 --> 01:18:59,347
so that it feeds back up

2863
01:18:59,347 --> 01:19:01,147
to that overarching goal. And

2864
01:19:01,147 --> 01:19:02,800
so, you know, I'd like

2865
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:03,313
to see how we can kind

2866
01:19:03,313 --> 01:19:06,280
of take the talk and get it

2867
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,613
down to the walk the walk.

2868
01:19:08,613 --> 01:19:09,380
But I think you're totally

2869
01:19:09,380 --> 01:19:10,680
on the right track, and these

2870
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,447
are just initial comments that

2871
01:19:12,447 --> 01:19:14,947
I have, but I'm going to stand

2872
01:19:14,947 --> 01:19:16,800
against and process. So thank

2873
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:17,447
you.

2874
01:19:17,447 --> 01:19:18,130
>> Well said, thank you.

2875
01:19:18,130 --> 01:19:20,130
Commissioner Tong.

2876
01:19:21,613 --> 01:19:22,713
>> Hi. So I'm not going

2877
01:19:22,713 --> 01:19:24,380
to do anymore echo

2878
01:19:24,380 --> 01:19:25,647
on the kudos, because I was the

2879
01:19:25,647 --> 01:19:27,470
first one that gave the kudos

2880
01:19:27,470 --> 01:19:27,913
that the guys up here just

2881
01:19:27,913 --> 01:19:30,713
followed that. But I do want to

2882
01:19:30,713 --> 01:19:32,547
make a public comment and

2883
01:19:32,547 --> 01:19:33,647
perhaps some suggestions

2884
01:19:33,647 --> 01:19:36,647
for you to consider. First

2885
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,447
of all, going back

2886
01:19:38,447 --> 01:19:40,180
to the outreach effort,

2887
01:19:40,180 --> 01:19:42,680
I do want to mention,

2888
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,347
I believe the Mayor might have

2889
01:19:44,347 --> 01:19:45,800
mentioned this,

2890
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:46,280
that the process of itself

2891
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,680
of developing this plan,

2892
01:19:48,713 --> 01:19:51,470
if it's not just important, in

2893
01:19:51,470 --> 01:19:52,313
many cases it's more important

2894
01:19:52,313 --> 01:19:55,213
that the final plan itself. So

2895
01:19:55,213 --> 01:19:56,180
I do like

2896
01:19:56,180 --> 01:19:58,513
to see--'cause I look at the

2897
01:19:58,513 --> 01:19:59,647
next step as further outreach

2898
01:19:59,647 --> 01:20:02,470
effort. Somehow insert more

2899
01:20:02,347 --> 01:20:04,747
excitement and energy in

2900
01:20:05,313 --> 01:20:06,713
promoting this because that's

2901
01:20:06,713 --> 01:20:07,280
going

2902
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:07,647
to translate more engagement

2903
01:20:07,647 --> 01:20:10,647
from a resident, number one.

2904
01:20:11,130 --> 01:20:14,280
Number two is that the more

2905
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,800
targeted areas,

2906
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:15,813
the convenience

2907
01:20:15,813 --> 01:20:16,747
for the neighbors

2908
01:20:16,747 --> 01:20:18,447
to participate in this. And I

2909
01:20:18,447 --> 01:20:19,313
think it's a great idea

2910
01:20:19,313 --> 01:20:21,800
with the mobile as well as to

2911
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,847
the fairs and events people are

2912
01:20:22,847 --> 01:20:24,313
attending. But somehow

2913
01:20:24,313 --> 01:20:25,680
to the neighborhood, I know a

2914
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,880
colleague here mentioned the

2915
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,880
neighborhood watch group.

2916
01:20:30,913 --> 01:20:32,800
But then there are also a lot

2917
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,800
of sports activity where all

2918
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:37,130
the parents, you know,

2919
01:20:37,130 --> 01:20:38,880
taking their kids Saturdays,

2920
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,470
those are a perfect time

2921
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:41,113
because of the kids are riding

2922
01:20:41,113 --> 01:20:42,780
around the soccer field can

2923
01:20:42,780 --> 01:20:44,180
score, sometimes the parents

2924
01:20:44,180 --> 01:20:45,413
will be good to look

2925
01:20:45,413 --> 01:20:48,470
for some diversion. So I

2926
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:49,413
think--think about if some of

2927
01:20:49,413 --> 01:20:51,113
those activities and it would

2928
01:20:51,113 --> 01:20:53,130
be a good opportunity

2929
01:20:53,130 --> 01:20:55,147
to just go out to them.

2930
01:20:55,147 --> 01:20:57,547
Third, something to--I don't

2931
01:20:58,887 --> 01:21:00,987
know if this is stored

2932
01:21:00,987 --> 01:21:02,820
out there for you--community

2933
01:21:02,820 --> 01:21:05,220
college students area. I

2934
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:07,530
thought about high school, but

2935
01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:08,220
perhaps they're a little bit

2936
01:21:08,220 --> 01:21:09,870
young. But I'll also get their

2937
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:11,530
feedback. And I know you guys

2938
01:21:11,530 --> 01:21:12,870
reach out to the Youth

2939
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:14,870
Commissioners. But

2940
01:21:15,487 --> 01:21:16,870
at the same time,

2941
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:17,187
the community college,

2942
01:21:17,187 --> 01:21:18,453
the reason is this: People who

2943
01:21:18,453 --> 01:21:19,953
are college age are looking

2944
01:21:19,953 --> 01:21:22,753
very much on their career path

2945
01:21:22,753 --> 01:21:24,353
where the jobs will be

2946
01:21:24,353 --> 01:21:25,753
attracting them as well as

2947
01:21:25,753 --> 01:21:26,953
they're going to be settling

2948
01:21:26,953 --> 01:21:28,920
down with their family. And I

2949
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,153
think sometimes getting that

2950
01:21:30,153 --> 01:21:31,753
perspective of what is going

2951
01:21:31,753 --> 01:21:33,420
to attract them to, you know,

2952
01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:35,870
find the community,

2953
01:21:35,870 --> 01:21:36,720
to continue to develop. I'm

2954
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:37,920
sure the first thing is, well,

2955
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,787
where the job is. Well, and we

2956
01:21:39,787 --> 01:21:41,420
have that economic development

2957
01:21:41,420 --> 01:21:44,420
plan here of what type

2958
01:21:44,420 --> 01:21:45,620
of jobs people are looking to

2959
01:21:45,620 --> 01:21:49,530
have. I think somehow you can

2960
01:21:49,530 --> 01:21:50,920
tie this together and get that

2961
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,530
level

2962
01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:53,387
of engagement. I just wanted

2963
01:21:53,387 --> 01:21:54,787
to throw it out there that,

2964
01:21:54,787 --> 01:21:56,460
you know, community college

2965
01:21:56,460 --> 01:21:58,593
students will be a great group.

2966
01:21:58,593 --> 01:22:00,993
Finally, what is the

2967
01:22:01,993 --> 01:22:02,927
perspective

2968
01:22:02,927 --> 01:22:04,270
of residents outside of the

2969
01:22:04,270 --> 01:22:07,427
Elk Grove City? And as people

2970
01:22:07,427 --> 01:22:09,427
are traveling here

2971
01:22:09,493 --> 01:22:10,860
to attend events, again,

2972
01:22:10,860 --> 01:22:11,760
coming back to the youth,

2973
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,660
I know there's a lot of

2974
01:22:12,660 --> 01:22:15,460
regional youth sports events. I

2975
01:22:15,460 --> 01:22:16,460
have residents that are coming

2976
01:22:16,460 --> 01:22:16,893
from Elk Grove, not so much as

2977
01:22:16,893 --> 01:22:20,627
what they want to see in Elk

2978
01:22:20,627 --> 01:22:21,693
Grove, but it's always good

2979
01:22:21,693 --> 01:22:23,193
to get on neighboring

2980
01:22:23,193 --> 01:22:25,193
communities' perspectives.

2981
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:26,727
What is their perception of

2982
01:22:26,727 --> 01:22:27,893
Elk Grove? What would be

2983
01:22:27,893 --> 01:22:29,827
something that would attract

2984
01:22:29,827 --> 01:22:31,193
them to the City of Elk

2985
01:22:31,193 --> 01:22:33,527
Grove? Or what are the things

2986
01:22:33,527 --> 01:22:34,927
that are, uh,

2987
01:22:34,927 --> 01:22:36,260
this is the reason I don't.

2988
01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:38,327
Just get a more

2989
01:22:38,327 --> 01:22:39,727
of a 360-degree kind

2990
01:22:39,727 --> 01:22:40,560
of a perspective

2991
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,993
in addition to, you know,

2992
01:22:42,993 --> 01:22:44,293
the residents who live in Elk

2993
01:22:44,293 --> 01:22:45,560
Grove. So just something

2994
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,560
to think about.

2995
01:22:47,660 --> 01:22:49,393
>> Great points. Thank you.

2996
01:22:49,393 --> 01:22:51,227
Vice Mayor Lee.

2997
01:22:51,227 --> 01:22:51,727
>> Just a couple

2998
01:22:51,727 --> 01:22:54,270
of things. I am pleased with

2999
01:22:54,270 --> 01:22:55,733
the progress. I do appreciate

3000
01:22:55,733 --> 01:22:57,100
that report. The other thing I

3001
01:22:57,100 --> 01:22:58,833
want to echo and kind hone in

3002
01:22:58,833 --> 01:23:01,330
on specifically is one

3003
01:23:01,330 --> 01:23:04,467
of the things special in Elk

3004
01:23:04,467 --> 01:23:06,300
Grove is the fact that you have

3005
01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:08,233
areas like the Sheldon area.

3006
01:23:08,233 --> 01:23:09,367
And I think that Councilman

3007
01:23:09,367 --> 01:23:10,500
Hume hit the nail right

3008
01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:11,500
on it when he talked

3009
01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:13,100
about that. And I certainly

3010
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:14,433
will be in favor

3011
01:23:14,433 --> 01:23:15,633
of building that into the

3012
01:23:15,633 --> 01:23:17,167
General Plan as well, to make

3013
01:23:17,167 --> 01:23:19,233
it perfectly clear that this is

3014
01:23:19,233 --> 01:23:20,867
something that -- we

3015
01:23:20,867 --> 01:23:22,633
want to preserve. The third

3016
01:23:22,633 --> 01:23:25,330
item is in terms

3017
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:28,933
of continued outreach,

3018
01:23:28,933 --> 01:23:30,933
I've heard a couple

3019
01:23:30,933 --> 01:23:32,967
of things: faith-based, sports

3020
01:23:32,967 --> 01:23:34,967
group, neighbor association,

3021
01:23:35,670 --> 01:23:38,670
the watch groups. One other

3022
01:23:38,667 --> 01:23:41,233
thing I might add is, you know,

3023
01:23:41,233 --> 01:23:42,333
I think it's really the

3024
01:23:42,333 --> 01:23:43,467
nonprofits that are prominent

3025
01:23:43,467 --> 01:23:45,670
in our community as well.

3026
01:23:45,670 --> 01:23:46,367
Certainly those that are

3027
01:23:46,367 --> 01:23:46,967
involved

3028
01:23:46,967 --> 01:23:47,933
in nonprofits are --.

3029
01:23:47,933 --> 01:23:50,733
It'd be great if you include

3030
01:23:50,733 --> 01:23:51,533
that.

3031
01:23:51,533 --> 01:23:52,567
>> Thank you. Commissioner

3032
01:23:52,567 --> 01:23:54,567
Spease.

3033
01:23:55,973 --> 01:23:57,540
>> Yes, thank you. So first I

3034
01:23:57,540 --> 01:24:01,140
want to give a hearty amen

3035
01:24:01,373 --> 01:24:04,107
to the support for Councilman

3036
01:24:04,107 --> 01:24:06,207
Hume and his position relative

3037
01:24:06,207 --> 01:24:08,700
to the rural area.

3038
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:09,640
But my piece to add in this is

3039
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,700
to the east. We talk

3040
01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:13,700
about--excuse me,

3041
01:24:13,700 --> 01:24:14,207
to the west. When we talk

3042
01:24:14,207 --> 01:24:15,873
about infill and

3043
01:24:15,873 --> 01:24:18,400
to look upon building

3044
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:19,607
on what's out there, we need

3045
01:24:19,607 --> 01:24:22,700
to look at clusters

3046
01:24:23,707 --> 01:24:24,807
for coworking spaces, places

3047
01:24:24,807 --> 01:24:27,207
where entrepreneurs can get

3048
01:24:28,730 --> 01:24:31,440
their footing. And we see a lot

3049
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:32,873
of that good growth up in

3050
01:24:32,873 --> 01:24:34,673
Sacramento and the surrounding

3051
01:24:34,673 --> 01:24:36,407
areas. We have beginnings

3052
01:24:36,407 --> 01:24:38,307
of that, but I'd like

3053
01:24:38,307 --> 01:24:40,140
to--hopefully we can see some

3054
01:24:40,140 --> 01:24:41,207
of that flush out as we move

3055
01:24:41,207 --> 01:24:42,907
down the road on it.

3056
01:24:42,907 --> 01:24:44,907
>> Great points. Councilman

3057
01:24:45,373 --> 01:24:47,373
Suen.

3058
01:24:47,407 --> 01:24:48,473
>> Yeah, something that

3059
01:24:48,473 --> 01:24:50,240
Councilman Hume mentioned that

3060
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,840
sparked a thought of mine. As

3061
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,130
you do the outreach, I want

3062
01:24:56,130 --> 01:24:57,613
to encourage you to talk

3063
01:24:57,613 --> 01:25:00,130
to folk about implementation.

3064
01:25:01,447 --> 01:25:04,380
So to take you back

3065
01:25:04,380 --> 01:25:05,413
off of--there is a lot of

3066
01:25:05,413 --> 01:25:07,413
speculation or misperception,

3067
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:09,247
I should say,

3068
01:25:09,247 --> 01:25:10,380
that there's a lot

3069
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:11,813
of open land to be developed,

3070
01:25:11,813 --> 01:25:12,980
and a lot of times the Sheldon

3071
01:25:12,980 --> 01:25:13,780
area,

3072
01:25:13,780 --> 01:25:14,780
the rural area is included

3073
01:25:14,780 --> 01:25:15,980
in that. And so people don't

3074
01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:17,130
quite understand. And there's a

3075
01:25:17,130 --> 01:25:19,213
lot of great suggestions. And

3076
01:25:19,213 --> 01:25:20,613
Commissioner Tong mentioned

3077
01:25:20,613 --> 01:25:22,647
about college campuses and a

3078
01:25:22,647 --> 01:25:25,130
lot of great ideas out there.

3079
01:25:25,130 --> 01:25:26,747
But then if you look

3080
01:25:26,747 --> 01:25:27,847
on a map and you take

3081
01:25:27,847 --> 01:25:29,313
out the rural area,

3082
01:25:29,313 --> 01:25:30,680
where do you put those things?

3083
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,380
So it's great

3084
01:25:32,380 --> 01:25:33,180
to have a vision,

3085
01:25:33,180 --> 01:25:34,180
but I would encourage you,

3086
01:25:34,180 --> 01:25:35,380
when you talk to folks

3087
01:25:35,380 --> 01:25:36,813
about that vision,

3088
01:25:36,813 --> 01:25:38,113
make them take one extra step

3089
01:25:38,113 --> 01:25:39,713
about implementation and seeing

3090
01:25:39,713 --> 01:25:41,713
whether or not, you know,

3091
01:25:41,713 --> 01:25:43,813
that vision can be realized.

3092
01:25:43,813 --> 01:25:44,680
And if not,

3093
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,380
then what could be done

3094
01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:46,947
to make it realized. So thank

3095
01:25:46,947 --> 01:25:48,613
you.

3096
01:25:48,613 --> 01:25:50,613
>> Chairman Murphey.

3097
01:25:50,780 --> 01:25:52,130
>> Yeah, Chris. Let me borrow

3098
01:25:52,130 --> 01:25:54,647
this, if you don't mind,

3099
01:25:54,647 --> 01:25:58,120
Steve. As no surprise, I agree

3100
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,520
with Councilman Hume. But to be

3101
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,187
a little bit more specific,

3102
01:26:03,187 --> 01:26:04,520
I'd like to see what policies

3103
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,520
and other items,

3104
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,353
such as the real road policy,

3105
01:26:09,353 --> 01:26:10,787
the recent mobility study we

3106
01:26:10,787 --> 01:26:11,487
did,

3107
01:26:11,487 --> 01:26:12,387
how that can be incorporated

3108
01:26:12,387 --> 01:26:14,253
to kind of--you know, those are

3109
01:26:14,253 --> 01:26:16,387
items that I think can

3110
01:26:16,387 --> 01:26:17,587
strengthen the protectors

3111
01:26:17,587 --> 01:26:19,187
out there. So, Pat, you said it

3112
01:26:19,187 --> 01:26:22,187
well. Thank you. On page 22

3113
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,530
of our glossy, the one thing

3114
01:26:25,530 --> 01:26:27,187
that struck me was the phrase

3115
01:26:27,187 --> 01:26:30,187
including both east and the

3116
01:26:30,620 --> 01:26:32,887
west sides. That kind of--it

3117
01:26:32,887 --> 01:26:36,487
just struck me in that we're--I

3118
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:37,787
know we have a bit

3119
01:26:37,787 --> 01:26:39,853
of a divide and a difference

3120
01:26:39,853 --> 01:26:41,220
in opinions sometimes,

3121
01:26:41,220 --> 01:26:42,530
but I don't know if we want

3122
01:26:42,530 --> 01:26:43,870
to put that

3123
01:26:43,870 --> 01:26:44,887
out there so much. It just kind

3124
01:26:44,887 --> 01:26:45,987
of struck me that, you know,

3125
01:26:45,987 --> 01:26:48,287
we understand it, we can work

3126
01:26:48,287 --> 01:26:51,320
on it, we're working on it. I

3127
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:51,887
don't know if that needs to be

3128
01:26:51,887 --> 01:26:53,553
in there right now. And the

3129
01:26:53,553 --> 01:26:56,360
last thing that hit me was on

3130
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,360
the draft staff--on the staff

3131
01:27:00,270 --> 01:27:02,493
report draft recap was the

3132
01:27:02,493 --> 01:27:04,493
suggestion

3133
01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:06,827
of a social services element

3134
01:27:06,827 --> 01:27:09,193
in the General Plan. A lot's

3135
01:27:09,193 --> 01:27:10,160
been said about some

3136
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,893
of the needs relating

3137
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:14,393
to that. And I don't know,

3138
01:27:14,393 --> 01:27:16,660
to me, if another layer is

3139
01:27:16,660 --> 01:27:19,527
needed if we can capture those

3140
01:27:19,527 --> 01:27:20,827
needs

3141
01:27:20,827 --> 01:27:23,227
under our existing elements.

3142
01:27:23,460 --> 01:27:24,927
It's just one more thing we

3143
01:27:24,927 --> 01:27:25,627
have to look

3144
01:27:25,627 --> 01:27:26,960
at and people have

3145
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,227
to go through. A lot's been

3146
01:27:29,227 --> 01:27:30,560
said about it though. And I

3147
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,127
think with most of our policies

3148
01:27:33,127 --> 01:27:34,593
and--I mean our elements that

3149
01:27:34,593 --> 01:27:35,793
are in our General Plan, those

3150
01:27:35,793 --> 01:27:37,527
things are doable. And also,

3151
01:27:37,527 --> 01:27:40,527
some of the services, as was

3152
01:27:40,527 --> 01:27:42,927
said, are really related

3153
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:44,827
to what other agencies can do.

3154
01:27:44,827 --> 01:27:46,270
We can facilitate that and we

3155
01:27:46,270 --> 01:27:47,593
can encourage it, but it may

3156
01:27:47,593 --> 01:27:49,360
not be totally

3157
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:50,260
within our purview

3158
01:27:50,260 --> 01:27:52,930
to provide those services.

3159
01:27:52,930 --> 01:27:53,493
Unless you can show me a strong

3160
01:27:53,493 --> 01:27:54,593
reason for including that,

3161
01:27:54,593 --> 01:27:56,593
I'd be hesitant

3162
01:27:57,133 --> 01:27:59,133
to include that.

3163
01:27:59,833 --> 01:28:01,400
>> Yeah. Comissioner Maita?

3164
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,233
>> Yes. Well, we heard a lot of

3165
01:28:05,233 --> 01:28:06,700
good thoughts up here and the

3166
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:08,133
consensuses have worked so far.

3167
01:28:08,133 --> 01:28:12,333
I would like to back up Pat

3168
01:28:13,233 --> 01:28:15,330
in his regard, is that we need

3169
01:28:15,330 --> 01:28:15,500
to make this understood. And I

3170
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:17,900
think in having that,

3171
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:20,333
and I think it was Darren's

3172
01:28:20,333 --> 01:28:21,100
suggestion

3173
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:22,800
about having that conversation,

3174
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,200
you know, just sort

3175
01:28:25,367 --> 01:28:26,633
of engrained,

3176
01:28:26,633 --> 01:28:27,900
because there is a perception,

3177
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:29,167
and particularly, I think,

3178
01:28:29,167 --> 01:28:30,733
from some outside agencies,

3179
01:28:30,733 --> 01:28:32,433
that see that as a potential.

3180
01:28:32,433 --> 01:28:34,267
And frankly,

3181
01:28:34,267 --> 01:28:35,333
it's very difficult for people

3182
01:28:35,333 --> 01:28:37,733
to understand the nature

3183
01:28:37,767 --> 01:28:39,733
of that. You know,

3184
01:28:39,733 --> 01:28:40,167
we're getting so far away

3185
01:28:40,167 --> 01:28:42,567
from our -- ways,

3186
01:28:42,767 --> 01:28:44,400
that I think it's kind

3187
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:45,400
of tough for some people

3188
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,467
to grasp the value there. And I

3189
01:28:49,467 --> 01:28:52,467
would also agree with George

3190
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,400
about the social services

3191
01:28:56,730 --> 01:28:57,473
element. And I would like

3192
01:28:57,473 --> 01:28:58,607
to make a comment related

3193
01:28:58,607 --> 01:29:00,273
to east and west as well.

3194
01:29:00,273 --> 01:29:02,673
Because I think--in my

3195
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:05,673
experience, I think there's

3196
01:29:05,673 --> 01:29:08,730
more concern and more

3197
01:29:08,340 --> 01:29:10,340
imagination related

3198
01:29:18,607 --> 01:29:19,173
to it than reality. And a

3199
01:29:19,173 --> 01:29:19,907
portion of that is--I think

3200
01:29:19,907 --> 01:29:20,673
where the big difference is,

3201
01:29:20,673 --> 01:29:21,640
is really it's the maturity of

3202
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:22,540
the community and the stability

3203
01:29:22,540 --> 01:29:24,940
of some--long-term stability on

3204
01:29:25,273 --> 01:29:28,873
the east side that a newer

3205
01:29:31,373 --> 01:29:32,107
community has just a tough time

3206
01:29:32,107 --> 01:29:33,700
getting. Than you have a lot

3207
01:29:33,700 --> 01:29:34,400
of commuters. They can't spend

3208
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:35,707
time--they're

3209
01:29:35,707 --> 01:29:36,640
on the road so much,

3210
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:37,573
it's very difficult for them

3211
01:29:37,573 --> 01:29:39,400
to do the--a lot

3212
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:39,940
of what we--well,

3213
01:29:39,940 --> 01:29:43,107
what I would consider sort of

3214
01:29:43,107 --> 01:29:45,400
normal community activities

3215
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,540
when it comes to civic life,

3216
01:29:46,540 --> 01:29:47,907
if you will, because their

3217
01:29:47,907 --> 01:29:50,607
stresses are different. And I

3218
01:29:50,607 --> 01:29:52,107
think that needs to be

3219
01:29:52,107 --> 01:29:53,373
acknowledged or understood how

3220
01:29:53,373 --> 01:29:54,240
it would work

3221
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,207
in here. I don't know.

3222
01:29:55,207 --> 01:29:55,773
But that's more

3223
01:29:55,773 --> 01:29:58,540
of a rhetorical thought that

3224
01:29:58,540 --> 01:30:00,640
I'd like us to keep

3225
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,207
in mind and not get into this

3226
01:30:02,207 --> 01:30:05,700
east-west thing as much either.

3227
01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:07,407
I think if anything,

3228
01:30:07,573 --> 01:30:08,307
when it comes

3229
01:30:08,307 --> 01:30:09,107
to the west side,

3230
01:30:09,107 --> 01:30:11,640
we just need more opportunities

3231
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,607
for them to engage in a similar

3232
01:30:13,607 --> 01:30:16,540
fashion that the east has had.

3233
01:30:16,540 --> 01:30:17,840
And how that's accomplished,

3234
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,400
I mean I'm not going to

3235
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:19,940
-- that's what I would

3236
01:30:19,940 --> 01:30:22,340
like to see happen.

3237
01:30:22,940 --> 01:30:23,707
>> Well, going last is an

3238
01:30:23,707 --> 01:30:25,540
advantage and a disadvantage.

3239
01:30:25,540 --> 01:30:27,807
One, you know, a lot of you all

3240
01:30:27,807 --> 01:30:31,140
said what my notes say here,

3241
01:30:31,140 --> 01:30:33,507
and, secondly, you know,

3242
01:30:33,507 --> 01:30:34,640
chomping at the bit

3243
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:35,773
to join in. But I do want--so I

3244
01:30:35,773 --> 01:30:38,907
think that as we start off

3245
01:30:38,907 --> 01:30:40,730
by giving praise,

3246
01:30:40,730 --> 01:30:41,940
and I think it's due, and I

3247
01:30:41,940 --> 01:30:43,473
think we've done a good job

3248
01:30:43,473 --> 01:30:44,730
to start. However, I think that

3249
01:30:44,730 --> 01:30:46,700
we've got a little ways

3250
01:30:46,700 --> 01:30:47,307
to go. Number one,

3251
01:30:47,307 --> 01:30:48,373
this is just a round thing.

3252
01:30:48,373 --> 01:30:49,607
One, this is a nice-looking

3253
01:30:49,607 --> 01:30:52,973
piece of material. And I don't

3254
01:30:52,973 --> 01:30:54,730
know if it's intentional or

3255
01:30:54,730 --> 01:30:55,380
not, but there's a lot

3256
01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:56,747
of photos in here of

3257
01:30:56,747 --> 01:30:57,613
communities that are not ours.

3258
01:30:57,613 --> 01:31:00,847
So I'm not sure if that was

3259
01:31:00,847 --> 01:31:01,980
intentional,

3260
01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:03,113
but I think we got a little

3261
01:31:03,113 --> 01:31:05,613
work to do on the photos.

3262
01:31:05,613 --> 01:31:08,613
Yeah. Secondly, so as I--yeah,

3263
01:31:13,130 --> 01:31:13,747
I think we're getting a lot

3264
01:31:13,747 --> 01:31:15,347
of good data from our--I mean

3265
01:31:15,347 --> 01:31:16,413
we are getting a lot

3266
01:31:16,413 --> 01:31:16,980
of good data

3267
01:31:16,980 --> 01:31:17,480
from our residents. And as we

3268
01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:19,800
dig deeper, we're going

3269
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:20,213
to get more and more.

3270
01:31:20,213 --> 01:31:21,180
But as I think

3271
01:31:21,180 --> 01:31:22,247
about what's unique about our

3272
01:31:22,247 --> 01:31:24,470
City, the three things that

3273
01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:26,313
really pop out to me are, one,

3274
01:31:26,313 --> 01:31:28,800
of course, we've all echoed it

3275
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:29,380
here, is the ag rural nature

3276
01:31:29,380 --> 01:31:33,347
of our City. I mean how many

3277
01:31:33,347 --> 01:31:35,747
other suburban, you know,

3278
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:38,480
middle-class communities have

3279
01:31:39,470 --> 01:31:41,647
as large of a chunk of their

3280
01:31:41,647 --> 01:31:42,180
City that's zoned

3281
01:31:42,180 --> 01:31:44,213
ag-residential as we do,

3282
01:31:44,213 --> 01:31:45,113
right?

3283
01:31:45,113 --> 01:31:47,113
With no water going in, no

3284
01:31:47,113 --> 01:31:48,180
sewer coming out. I mean it's a

3285
01:31:48,180 --> 01:31:48,747
powerful statement

3286
01:31:48,747 --> 01:31:50,747
for a city. It really can be a

3287
01:31:50,747 --> 01:31:51,947
major part

3288
01:31:51,947 --> 01:31:53,130
of what defines us,

3289
01:31:53,130 --> 01:31:54,213
I believe. And so we need to

3290
01:31:54,213 --> 01:31:55,253
make sure that that's reflected

3291
01:31:55,253 --> 01:31:57,453
here. There are, certainly,

3292
01:31:57,453 --> 01:32:01,200
a lot of rural areas that have

3293
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,200
these components, but how many

3294
01:32:04,753 --> 01:32:06,253
cities have that much

3295
01:32:06,253 --> 01:32:08,320
ag-residential within them? So

3296
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:09,387
I think that's one thing that

3297
01:32:09,387 --> 01:32:10,653
really makes Elk Grove unique.

3298
01:32:10,653 --> 01:32:11,953
Number two is our diversity.

3299
01:32:11,953 --> 01:32:13,487
We're the seventh most diverse

3300
01:32:13,487 --> 01:32:15,530
city in the United States. And

3301
01:32:15,530 --> 01:32:17,453
in addition to diversity,

3302
01:32:17,853 --> 01:32:20,253
we have integrated diversity.

3303
01:32:21,420 --> 01:32:23,420
We don't have pockets

3304
01:32:23,420 --> 01:32:24,953
of diversity. We're fully

3305
01:32:24,953 --> 01:32:25,987
integrated in just

3306
01:32:25,987 --> 01:32:26,687
about every part

3307
01:32:26,687 --> 01:32:27,820
of our community. And so I

3308
01:32:27,820 --> 01:32:29,153
think that as we look at this

3309
01:32:29,153 --> 01:32:30,487
from a high level, that's the

3310
01:32:30,487 --> 01:32:31,520
second thing that makes Elk

3311
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:32,687
Grove sort

3312
01:32:32,687 --> 01:32:34,520
of unique that should really,

3313
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:35,587
I think, stand

3314
01:32:35,587 --> 01:32:36,487
out when we're looking

3315
01:32:36,487 --> 01:32:37,687
at who we are as a city. And

3316
01:32:37,687 --> 01:32:39,520
the third piece I would put out

3317
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,253
there is youth sports and

3318
01:32:41,253 --> 01:32:42,920
recreation. Although I'm sure a

3319
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,200
lot of other communities around

3320
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,887
the country have youth sports

3321
01:32:46,887 --> 01:32:48,853
and recreation opportunities,

3322
01:32:48,853 --> 01:32:50,453
we have the largest youth

3323
01:32:50,453 --> 01:32:51,253
soccer program

3324
01:32:51,253 --> 01:32:52,420
in the country, and I believe

3325
01:32:52,420 --> 01:32:54,200
we have the largest --

3326
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:55,293
and baseball program

3327
01:32:55,293 --> 01:32:56,600
in the country,

3328
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:56,793
and I'm sure the list goes

3329
01:32:56,793 --> 01:32:57,560
on and on. So it is a

3330
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:58,627
differentiator for us. So I

3331
01:32:58,627 --> 01:32:59,393
think

3332
01:32:59,393 --> 01:33:01,193
from our perspective I just

3333
01:33:01,193 --> 01:33:02,960
want to make sure that those

3334
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,760
things that make Elk Grove

3335
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,793
unique, shine, and are kind

3336
01:33:06,793 --> 01:33:08,660
of overarching goals

3337
01:33:08,660 --> 01:33:09,760
of this as we move forward. So

3338
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,160
that's the macro level.

3339
01:33:12,293 --> 01:33:13,160
At the micro level,

3340
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,693
I have a few thought too. Just

3341
01:33:15,693 --> 01:33:16,893
talking about the infill,

3342
01:33:16,893 --> 01:33:17,827
we do have a lot

3343
01:33:17,827 --> 01:33:20,227
of legitimately infill sites.

3344
01:33:20,227 --> 01:33:21,460
If you look at Laguna west,

3345
01:33:21,460 --> 01:33:22,993
if you look to the north

3346
01:33:22,993 --> 01:33:24,460
of our City at Bruceville and

3347
01:33:24,460 --> 01:33:25,927
Sheldon, there are sites

3348
01:33:25,927 --> 01:33:28,930
in our City that are absolutely

3349
01:33:28,930 --> 01:33:29,527
infill sites that are hard to

3350
01:33:29,527 --> 01:33:32,660
develop and that need extra TLC

3351
01:33:32,660 --> 01:33:34,227
if it's ever going to happen.

3352
01:33:34,227 --> 01:33:35,527
And so I think we need

3353
01:33:35,527 --> 01:33:36,893
to ensure that we're aggressive

3354
01:33:36,893 --> 01:33:39,227
in those areas. I'm glad I

3355
01:33:39,227 --> 01:33:40,693
didn't--you know,

3356
01:33:40,693 --> 01:33:42,600
I was thinking about, okay,

3357
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:42,893
should I bring up the east

3358
01:33:42,893 --> 01:33:44,227
versus west, but I didn't have

3359
01:33:44,227 --> 01:33:45,193
to because everybody else

3360
01:33:45,193 --> 01:33:46,527
seemed to bring it up. But on

3361
01:33:46,527 --> 01:33:47,860
one hand we prescribe a

3362
01:33:47,860 --> 01:33:48,993
solution in here --

3363
01:33:48,993 --> 01:33:50,393
divide the gap

3364
01:33:50,393 --> 01:33:51,593
between east and west.

3365
01:33:51,593 --> 01:33:52,493
On the other hand,

3366
01:33:52,493 --> 01:33:53,360
you start the dialogue

3367
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:54,393
by asking people

3368
01:33:54,393 --> 01:33:55,333
to self-identify if they're

3369
01:33:55,333 --> 01:33:56,433
on the east or the west. So I

3370
01:33:56,433 --> 01:34:00,330
think that that may be--I think

3371
01:34:00,433 --> 01:34:01,233
that maybe we need

3372
01:34:01,233 --> 01:34:02,500
to change that, and maybe it's

3373
01:34:02,500 --> 01:34:04,567
about your neighborhood. So if

3374
01:34:04,567 --> 01:34:05,600
we're going to ask folks

3375
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,330
to self-identify, maybe what

3376
01:34:07,330 --> 01:34:08,567
neighborhood do you live in,

3377
01:34:08,567 --> 01:34:09,533
because we do have unique

3378
01:34:09,533 --> 01:34:10,600
neighborhoods in our City for

3379
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:11,667
sure. I think our challenge is

3380
01:34:11,667 --> 01:34:12,467
making sure that the uniqueness

3381
01:34:12,467 --> 01:34:14,467
of each part

3382
01:34:16,167 --> 01:34:17,800
of our community is connected

3383
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,200
to the whole so that we're a

3384
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,200
strong city overall. And then

3385
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:24,433
just echoing what was talked

3386
01:34:24,433 --> 01:34:25,667
about on the specifics

3387
01:34:25,667 --> 01:34:26,467
in the rural,

3388
01:34:26,467 --> 01:34:27,233
I'll just take it a little

3389
01:34:27,233 --> 01:34:27,967
further,

3390
01:34:27,967 --> 01:34:28,767
'cause everybody did as we went

3391
01:34:28,767 --> 01:34:31,733
down the line. Two lanes,

3392
01:34:31,733 --> 01:34:32,967
roundabouts. Let's put it

3393
01:34:32,967 --> 01:34:34,367
in the plan, let's solidify it,

3394
01:34:34,367 --> 01:34:37,967
let's be done. And then the

3395
01:34:38,633 --> 01:34:41,633
micro farming, the hobby farms,

3396
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,670
you know,

3397
01:34:43,670 --> 01:34:43,900
I think that's really about

3398
01:34:43,900 --> 01:34:45,670
inspiring the next generation.

3399
01:34:45,670 --> 01:34:47,467
So we have--you know,

3400
01:34:47,533 --> 01:34:48,567
people will want to engage

3401
01:34:48,567 --> 01:34:50,600
in farm to fork. We certainly

3402
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,467
have a very successful farmers'

3403
01:34:52,467 --> 01:34:54,467
market here. As we got the

3404
01:34:54,467 --> 01:34:55,807
Old Town Plaza moving forward,

3405
01:34:55,807 --> 01:34:56,873
there's going to be a space

3406
01:34:56,873 --> 01:34:58,307
to do more. How can we make it

3407
01:34:58,307 --> 01:34:59,740
easier for folk

3408
01:34:59,740 --> 01:35:00,807
in the rural community and,

3409
01:35:00,807 --> 01:35:01,807
frankly, even

3410
01:35:01,807 --> 01:35:03,730
in the suburban community

3411
01:35:03,730 --> 01:35:03,907
to micro farm

3412
01:35:03,907 --> 01:35:05,607
in their backyard, whether it's

3413
01:35:05,607 --> 01:35:06,940
one acre or an eight of an acre

3414
01:35:06,940 --> 01:35:09,207
and take fruits and vegetables

3415
01:35:09,207 --> 01:35:10,807
to market. So it would help

3416
01:35:10,807 --> 01:35:12,507
just to continue to encourage

3417
01:35:12,507 --> 01:35:13,473
not only our consumption

3418
01:35:13,473 --> 01:35:14,940
but helping some, you know,

3419
01:35:14,940 --> 01:35:17,340
folks find some economic

3420
01:35:17,340 --> 01:35:18,273
advantage in doing it too,

3421
01:35:18,273 --> 01:35:18,973
which I think ultimately is key

3422
01:35:18,973 --> 01:35:19,707
to long-term sustainability

3423
01:35:19,707 --> 01:35:22,707
of the rural community too.

3424
01:35:26,407 --> 01:35:27,273
Those were most

3425
01:35:27,273 --> 01:35:28,607
of my thoughts and Councilman

3426
01:35:28,607 --> 01:35:31,700
Detrick's got another one.

3427
01:35:31,700 --> 01:35:31,707
>> When you've done all the

3428
01:35:31,707 --> 01:35:33,707
outreach -- seeing

3429
01:35:34,907 --> 01:35:37,700
Darrell Donn, our Economic

3430
01:35:37,700 --> 01:35:37,973
Development Director, come in,

3431
01:35:37,973 --> 01:35:39,873
are we--so all the public

3432
01:35:39,873 --> 01:35:41,473
outreach that it looks like has

3433
01:35:41,473 --> 01:35:44,240
been done has been internally?

3434
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,373
Have we looked externally

3435
01:35:45,373 --> 01:35:48,640
to see what would be attractive

3436
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,400
to residents and businesses

3437
01:35:52,540 --> 01:35:55,247
to come here? Because part of

3438
01:35:55,247 --> 01:35:56,280
what we're doing is offering

3439
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,847
that smorgasbord. So if we're

3440
01:35:57,847 --> 01:35:59,913
not including those elements

3441
01:35:59,913 --> 01:36:02,470
in not only what we want

3442
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:03,113
but what we need in order

3443
01:36:03,113 --> 01:36:06,513
to be a complete city to make

3444
01:36:06,513 --> 01:36:08,180
it where we're covering all the

3445
01:36:08,180 --> 01:36:10,280
bases, sometimes you have to

3446
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:11,813
look outside because somebody's

3447
01:36:11,813 --> 01:36:12,680
going to have a vision

3448
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,247
different than what we have

3449
01:36:14,247 --> 01:36:15,447
on the inside. So hopefully

3450
01:36:15,447 --> 01:36:19,470
that can be included. It'll be

3451
01:36:19,470 --> 01:36:21,470
a good resource.

3452
01:36:21,247 --> 01:36:23,247
>> Councilman Suen.

3453
01:36:23,913 --> 01:36:25,347
>> Yes, I heard

3454
01:36:25,347 --> 01:36:26,413
from project-specific things,

3455
01:36:26,413 --> 01:36:27,280
so I have to throw one

3456
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:28,647
out there. And I don't see

3457
01:36:28,647 --> 01:36:29,913
Mark Doty

3458
01:36:29,913 --> 01:36:32,647
in the audience anymore, but I

3459
01:36:32,647 --> 01:36:34,780
hope he'll appreciate this. I'd

3460
01:36:34,780 --> 01:36:36,380
like to see a connected

3461
01:36:36,380 --> 01:36:37,413
bike/pedestrian trail that runs

3462
01:36:37,413 --> 01:36:39,280
all the way up parallel

3463
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:40,780
to I-5 that connects us, if we

3464
01:36:40,780 --> 01:36:42,180
can, to the Sacramento area or

3465
01:36:42,180 --> 01:36:43,413
pocket up there to create a

3466
01:36:43,413 --> 01:36:44,747
regional connection so someone

3467
01:36:44,747 --> 01:36:47,213
could bike all the way around

3468
01:36:47,213 --> 01:36:48,747
Grant Line Road, through the

3469
01:36:48,747 --> 01:36:50,913
City, all the up back into

3470
01:36:50,913 --> 01:36:52,747
Sacramento. Thank you.

3471
01:36:52,747 --> 01:36:55,747
>> All right, great. Any other

3472
01:36:57,153 --> 01:36:59,553
closing comments? No? All

3473
01:37:02,553 --> 01:37:04,487
right. Let's go

3474
01:37:04,487 --> 01:37:07,487
to public comment. Sharon? And

3475
01:37:07,953 --> 01:37:08,787
anybody else,

3476
01:37:08,787 --> 01:37:11,200
if you have final comments,

3477
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:11,820
because I think we're towards

3478
01:37:11,820 --> 01:37:13,820
the end here.

3479
01:37:15,253 --> 01:37:17,320
>> I'm --. Thank you,

3480
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:18,620
it's been very interesting.

3481
01:37:18,620 --> 01:37:21,553
First thing off the top is

3482
01:37:21,553 --> 01:37:22,687
there's no sign-in sheet

3483
01:37:22,687 --> 01:37:25,353
at the back. And I've seen a

3484
01:37:25,353 --> 01:37:26,720
lot of faces I've never seen

3485
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:27,820
before, which is really nice

3486
01:37:27,820 --> 01:37:29,753
to see. So we don't have the

3487
01:37:29,753 --> 01:37:31,487
advantage of signing in with

3488
01:37:31,487 --> 01:37:34,487
our email or our phone number

3489
01:37:34,487 --> 01:37:35,587
or anything like that,

3490
01:37:35,587 --> 01:37:37,287
and it's unusual. Usually every

3491
01:37:37,287 --> 01:37:39,853
city event has a sign-in sheet.

3492
01:37:39,853 --> 01:37:40,720
So I don't want

3493
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,200
to lose these folks

3494
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:43,853
in the process,

3495
01:37:43,853 --> 01:37:44,787
if they read it

3496
01:37:44,787 --> 01:37:47,253
in the paper or whatever. So I

3497
01:37:47,253 --> 01:37:47,953
think that's really important

3498
01:37:47,953 --> 01:37:48,753
to get

3499
01:37:48,753 --> 01:37:50,787
before people start leaving.

3500
01:37:50,787 --> 01:37:52,520
Just a couple of comments. I

3501
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:53,320
certainly appreciate

3502
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,627
Councilman Hume, I always enjoy

3503
01:37:55,627 --> 01:37:59,930
his speaking. Anyway, he has a

3504
01:37:59,930 --> 01:38:00,600
fun way of talking,

3505
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:01,693
I love it. So anyway,

3506
01:38:01,693 --> 01:38:02,893
what's interesting

3507
01:38:02,893 --> 01:38:04,227
about that, I do appreciate all

3508
01:38:04,227 --> 01:38:05,160
the support you folks have

3509
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:06,930
given to the rural area 'cause

3510
01:38:06,930 --> 01:38:07,127
that's where I've lived for

3511
01:38:07,127 --> 01:38:09,593
over 40 years and I hope I

3512
01:38:09,593 --> 01:38:10,393
continue there

3513
01:38:10,393 --> 01:38:12,227
for a long time. Anyway, Pat

3514
01:38:12,227 --> 01:38:15,760
was--I mean Mr. Hume is one

3515
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,727
of the only members of all

3516
01:38:18,727 --> 01:38:20,860
of you that worked

3517
01:38:20,860 --> 01:38:22,527
on the original General Plan,

3518
01:38:22,527 --> 01:38:23,460
and there's only a few of us

3519
01:38:23,460 --> 01:38:25,560
in the audience that did that.

3520
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:26,193
But I want

3521
01:38:26,193 --> 01:38:28,293
to encourage the rest of you.

3522
01:38:28,293 --> 01:38:30,600
It was a long process. The

3523
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,600
public and the original

3524
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,293
Council worked together. It was

3525
01:38:34,293 --> 01:38:35,993
a real learning curve for all

3526
01:38:35,993 --> 01:38:39,627
of us. Don't give up. I think

3527
01:38:39,627 --> 01:38:42,627
it's a great learning process.

3528
01:38:43,827 --> 01:38:46,727
I learned a lot. Just hang

3529
01:38:46,727 --> 01:38:49,527
in there and you'll come

3530
01:38:49,527 --> 01:38:50,993
to speed. So just

3531
01:38:50,993 --> 01:38:53,227
to encourage you on that. I did

3532
01:38:53,227 --> 01:38:55,133
appreciate so many of you

3533
01:38:55,133 --> 01:38:57,500
mentioning--and I hope I

3534
01:38:57,500 --> 01:38:58,330
haven't forgotten

3535
01:38:58,330 --> 01:38:59,167
Commissioners Murphey, Maita

3536
01:38:59,167 --> 01:39:00,700
and Mayor Davis about the

3537
01:39:00,700 --> 01:39:02,700
east-west. I totally agree

3538
01:39:02,700 --> 01:39:05,700
with your comments. It divides.

3539
01:39:07,633 --> 01:39:08,833
Just those two--those three

3540
01:39:08,833 --> 01:39:11,233
words divides us immediately

3541
01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:13,400
off the bat. And I think that

3542
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,000
needs to be deleted, as you've

3543
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,400
said, from the process and

3544
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,000
from any words in this document

3545
01:39:21,267 --> 01:39:23,900
that we were given tonight,

3546
01:39:23,900 --> 01:39:24,633
anywhere else in the

3547
01:39:24,633 --> 01:39:27,533
Powerpoints and all that. So I

3548
01:39:27,533 --> 01:39:29,267
appreciate you bringing that

3549
01:39:29,267 --> 01:39:30,133
forward because that's

3550
01:39:30,133 --> 01:39:31,633
extremely important. And I

3551
01:39:31,633 --> 01:39:33,467
like Gary's ideas

3552
01:39:33,467 --> 01:39:35,500
on the diversity I've known

3553
01:39:35,500 --> 01:39:36,867
since I've lived here that our

3554
01:39:36,867 --> 01:39:39,000
community for 40 years has been

3555
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,400
diverse. All our welcome,

3556
01:39:41,667 --> 01:39:42,667
especially

3557
01:39:42,667 --> 01:39:43,900
within the school district.

3558
01:39:43,900 --> 01:39:44,700
It's been fabulous

3559
01:39:44,700 --> 01:39:45,600
to see that. I grew up

3560
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,267
in a very diverse neighborhood

3561
01:39:47,267 --> 01:39:49,267
Downtown Sacramento after

3562
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:50,700
World War II. You talk

3563
01:39:50,700 --> 01:39:52,333
about diversity, we had it.

3564
01:39:52,333 --> 01:39:54,433
And it was wonderful. What a

3565
01:39:54,433 --> 01:39:56,700
heritage it gave me. I lived

3566
01:39:56,700 --> 01:39:59,367
in the projects on X Street. I

3567
01:39:59,367 --> 01:40:00,133
grew up there

3568
01:40:00,133 --> 01:40:01,967
until the sixth grade. And then

3569
01:40:01,967 --> 01:40:03,767
we moved into a real home. So I

3570
01:40:03,767 --> 01:40:05,567
have real history with that.

3571
01:40:05,567 --> 01:40:06,667
And I'm so glad Elk Grove is

3572
01:40:06,667 --> 01:40:09,670
known--it's wonderful and I'm

3573
01:40:09,667 --> 01:40:10,567
glad my kids were raised in

3574
01:40:10,567 --> 01:40:12,700
this community as well because

3575
01:40:12,700 --> 01:40:14,833
of that very fact. So I

3576
01:40:14,833 --> 01:40:16,600
appreciate that, Gary. So thank

3577
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:17,900
you so much. Keep up the good

3578
01:40:17,900 --> 01:40:18,833
work.

3579
01:40:18,833 --> 01:40:19,900
>> Cheryl, before you leave,

3580
01:40:19,900 --> 01:40:21,900
since you mentioned the quest

3581
01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:23,800
about east to west,

3582
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:24,933
how would you feel

3583
01:40:24,933 --> 01:40:26,133
about if they were to ask what

3584
01:40:26,133 --> 01:40:28,333
district they live in?

3585
01:40:28,333 --> 01:40:29,967
>> Sure, that's be great.

3586
01:40:29,967 --> 01:40:31,367
Anything but that. Or as they

3587
01:40:31,367 --> 01:40:32,833
said, what neighborhood do you

3588
01:40:32,833 --> 01:40:33,933
live in? I think that's a good

3589
01:40:33,933 --> 01:40:35,733
way too. Council district,

3590
01:40:35,733 --> 01:40:36,967
you mean?

3591
01:40:36,967 --> 01:40:37,567
>> Yeah.

3592
01:40:37,567 --> 01:40:38,000
>> Yeah, I think that's a good

3593
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,733
idea. Yeah,

3594
01:40:39,733 --> 01:40:40,833
but just not that east-west.

3595
01:40:40,833 --> 01:40:42,100
We already feel it,

3596
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:44,133
but I think it--

3597
01:40:44,133 --> 01:40:44,767
>> It would help the Council

3598
01:40:44,767 --> 01:40:46,400
District bridge 99, so that

3599
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,100
kind of takes away the

3600
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:49,567
east-west issue,

3601
01:40:49,567 --> 01:40:51,200
but splits it up

3602
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:52,700
into quadrants.

3603
01:40:52,700 --> 01:40:53,300
>> Right.

3604
01:40:53,300 --> 01:40:54,330
>> This gives you at least a

3605
01:40:54,330 --> 01:40:56,330
rough geographical area.

3606
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:57,973
>> Yeah. But that east-west,

3607
01:40:57,973 --> 01:40:59,240
we know it exists,

3608
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,773
but I think the City has looked

3609
01:41:01,773 --> 01:41:03,207
at getting that eliminated

3610
01:41:03,207 --> 01:41:04,473
from our vocabulary. So we need

3611
01:41:04,473 --> 01:41:06,773
to keep working on it. Thank

3612
01:41:06,773 --> 01:41:08,340
you.

3613
01:41:08,340 --> 01:41:09,973
>> All right, thank you. Bill

3614
01:41:09,973 --> 01:41:11,973
Myers.

3615
01:41:17,507 --> 01:41:18,807
>> Thank you. You're used

3616
01:41:18,807 --> 01:41:19,573
to seeing me talk

3617
01:41:19,573 --> 01:41:21,973
about the rural area.

3618
01:41:22,540 --> 01:41:23,440
But you've done such a good job

3619
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:24,400
of it, I have nothing to say

3620
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,140
about it. Just I'm very happy

3621
01:41:26,140 --> 01:41:27,140
--.

3622
01:41:27,140 --> 01:41:28,730
>> Thank you very much.

3623
01:41:28,730 --> 01:41:30,740
>> So I want to talk about

3624
01:41:30,740 --> 01:41:31,273
other professional sites that

3625
01:41:31,273 --> 01:41:32,373
you don't know about, okay?

3626
01:41:32,373 --> 01:41:33,507
And I look ahead to some of the

3627
01:41:33,507 --> 01:41:35,340
things I think might be worth

3628
01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:36,973
taking note of, especially

3629
01:41:36,973 --> 01:41:37,640
in regard

3630
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,807
to the economic component.

3631
01:41:39,807 --> 01:41:41,640
First of all,

3632
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,207
several years ago several of us

3633
01:41:43,207 --> 01:41:45,807
around town--I used to teach

3634
01:41:45,807 --> 01:41:46,673
local economic development at

3635
01:41:46,673 --> 01:41:48,507
Davis for a while. I forgot

3636
01:41:48,507 --> 01:41:50,207
to say that. And some of us

3637
01:41:50,207 --> 01:41:51,573
around town got together and

3638
01:41:51,573 --> 01:41:52,873
took a look

3639
01:41:52,873 --> 01:41:54,507
at what the resources might be.

3640
01:41:54,507 --> 01:41:55,680
This was our own thing. We

3641
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:56,480
weren't commissioned by the

3642
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:58,680
City or anything. And Elk

3643
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,680
Grove is full of people

3644
01:42:01,780 --> 01:42:04,180
with really interesting skills.

3645
01:42:04,647 --> 01:42:06,213
Some of these skills are future

3646
01:42:06,213 --> 01:42:06,780
skills,

3647
01:42:06,780 --> 01:42:08,347
they're not past skills. We're

3648
01:42:08,347 --> 01:42:09,513
not making use of them. They

3649
01:42:09,513 --> 01:42:10,470
all go to work

3650
01:42:10,470 --> 01:42:11,980
for somebody else. So we

3651
01:42:11,980 --> 01:42:13,130
asked--you know, they go to

3652
01:42:13,130 --> 01:42:14,547
Folsom and they go to the Bay

3653
01:42:14,547 --> 01:42:16,413
Area or whatever. So we

3654
01:42:16,413 --> 01:42:18,113
actually worked

3655
01:42:18,113 --> 01:42:19,480
with our local bank, you know,

3656
01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:20,413
just kind of

3657
01:42:20,413 --> 01:42:20,847
behind the scenes, and we kind

3658
01:42:20,847 --> 01:42:22,647
of took a look

3659
01:42:22,647 --> 01:42:24,580
to see what would it take to

3660
01:42:24,580 --> 01:42:26,247
actually mobilize what we

3661
01:42:26,247 --> 01:42:27,547
already have here in terms

3662
01:42:27,547 --> 01:42:30,147
of our human resources. Set up

3663
01:42:30,147 --> 01:42:32,313
an idea bank or something. I

3664
01:42:32,313 --> 01:42:33,113
actually think these are done

3665
01:42:33,113 --> 01:42:34,880
somewhere, and I won't go

3666
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,280
into details here except

3667
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:37,713
to say that there are a number

3668
01:42:37,713 --> 01:42:39,280
of ways of working with the

3669
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:40,447
people that you already have

3670
01:42:40,447 --> 01:42:42,113
to give them a chance

3671
01:42:42,113 --> 01:42:43,380
to put their skills to work

3672
01:42:43,380 --> 01:42:45,947
on their -- they want

3673
01:42:45,947 --> 01:42:46,947
to go into business or

3674
01:42:46,947 --> 01:42:48,313
to do something here. Not just

3675
01:42:48,313 --> 01:42:49,213
to attract outsiders

3676
01:42:49,213 --> 01:42:50,470
to come in. In other words,

3677
01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:51,347
it's growing your own,

3678
01:42:51,347 --> 01:42:53,313
not just buffalo hunting. And

3679
01:42:53,313 --> 01:42:55,253
this is something I think would

3680
01:42:55,253 --> 01:42:56,553
be really worth looking at,

3681
01:42:56,553 --> 01:42:57,653
because I think we have some

3682
01:42:57,653 --> 01:42:59,353
really interesting human

3683
01:42:59,353 --> 01:43:00,587
resources that could be

3684
01:43:00,587 --> 01:43:02,720
cultivated in that way. Second

3685
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:04,687
point, talking

3686
01:43:04,687 --> 01:43:06,530
about education,

3687
01:43:06,530 --> 01:43:07,587
I think you're dead on,

3688
01:43:07,587 --> 01:43:08,853
that anything we do needs

3689
01:43:08,853 --> 01:43:09,820
to be tied

3690
01:43:09,820 --> 01:43:10,887
to constant education,

3691
01:43:10,887 --> 01:43:12,120
not just for youth. We're all

3692
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:13,120
going

3693
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:14,687
to be educating ourselves, you

3694
01:43:14,687 --> 01:43:15,487
know, -- all

3695
01:43:15,487 --> 01:43:16,653
through our lives

3696
01:43:16,653 --> 01:43:17,753
for one thing or another,

3697
01:43:17,753 --> 01:43:18,153
and it's not going

3698
01:43:18,153 --> 01:43:19,953
to be just the standard stuff.

3699
01:43:19,953 --> 01:43:21,720
But I would be a little careful

3700
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:22,787
about the brick and mortar,

3701
01:43:22,787 --> 01:43:24,453
because brick and mortar is

3702
01:43:24,453 --> 01:43:26,620
getting to be a--well,

3703
01:43:26,620 --> 01:43:27,387
be brick

3704
01:43:27,387 --> 01:43:29,120
around your neck is what it is.

3705
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:31,120
Everything is happening online

3706
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,787
and that's going to expand.

3707
01:43:33,787 --> 01:43:35,220
We're getting very good

3708
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:36,587
at putting at whole courses,

3709
01:43:36,587 --> 01:43:39,153
you know, for everybody. My

3710
01:43:39,153 --> 01:43:40,820
daughter, for example, is

3711
01:43:40,820 --> 01:43:42,753
changing her profession and she

3712
01:43:42,753 --> 01:43:43,787
does three-quarters

3713
01:43:43,787 --> 01:43:45,287
of her stuff online from our

3714
01:43:45,287 --> 01:43:47,420
local institutions here, okay?

3715
01:43:47,420 --> 01:43:49,820
But it's basically going

3716
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:50,820
to work out of homes,

3717
01:43:50,820 --> 01:43:52,320
very small pods,

3718
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,527
and we're not going to need

3719
01:43:54,527 --> 01:43:55,793
classrooms and parking lots and

3720
01:43:55,793 --> 01:43:56,660
all of that kind of thing

3721
01:43:56,660 --> 01:43:57,827
in the future

3722
01:43:57,827 --> 01:43:58,893
like we've needed it so far.

3723
01:43:58,893 --> 01:43:59,660
So it's worth just thinking

3724
01:43:59,660 --> 01:44:01,293
about where the world is going

3725
01:44:01,293 --> 01:44:03,627
and not where it's already

3726
01:44:03,627 --> 01:44:04,627
been. Third,

3727
01:44:04,627 --> 01:44:07,627
about the farming. We actually,

3728
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:09,560
for some time,

3729
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,127
have actually been wanting

3730
01:44:11,127 --> 01:44:12,460
to move

3731
01:44:12,460 --> 01:44:13,927
toward the micro farming area.

3732
01:44:13,927 --> 01:44:14,760
The big problem has been

3733
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,930
marketing and a place

3734
01:44:17,930 --> 01:44:18,460
to market. And we keep trying

3735
01:44:18,460 --> 01:44:20,727
to remind the City over and

3736
01:44:20,727 --> 01:44:21,660
over that this would be a

3737
01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:23,793
really nice city function. You

3738
01:44:23,793 --> 01:44:24,893
know, it's something we can't

3739
01:44:24,893 --> 01:44:27,127
very well do on our own. There

3740
01:44:27,127 --> 01:44:28,593
have been ideas around. The

3741
01:44:28,593 --> 01:44:30,427
county actually put $20,000,

3742
01:44:30,427 --> 01:44:32,860
$30,000 into a study we did

3743
01:44:32,860 --> 01:44:35,327
with Charlotte Mitchell and the

3744
01:44:35,327 --> 01:44:37,327
Farm Bureau

3745
01:44:37,860 --> 01:44:40,960
on this and it went nowhere.

3746
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:41,693
But there is a backlog

3747
01:44:41,693 --> 01:44:43,493
of thinking

3748
01:44:43,493 --> 01:44:44,293
about this and what's

3749
01:44:44,293 --> 01:44:45,600
to be done. And I think that

3750
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:45,727
could be tapped if you wanted

3751
01:44:45,727 --> 01:44:47,693
to get into that. Thank you

3752
01:44:47,693 --> 01:44:48,660
very much.

3753
01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:49,693
>> Well said, well said,

3754
01:44:49,693 --> 01:44:52,727
Bill. Thank you. Okay, I don't

3755
01:44:52,727 --> 01:44:53,927
see anyone else signed up. Do

3756
01:44:53,927 --> 01:44:56,167
we have any further staff

3757
01:44:56,167 --> 01:44:58,167
comments?

3758
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:06,400
>> We appreciate all the

3759
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:06,800
feedback this evening. I think

3760
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,167
it's been really productive. I

3761
01:45:09,167 --> 01:45:10,567
think we have the direction we

3762
01:45:10,567 --> 01:45:11,467
need, therefore, we're

3763
01:45:11,467 --> 01:45:13,330
on the right track. There's a

3764
01:45:13,330 --> 01:45:14,330
little bit of fine-tuning

3765
01:45:14,330 --> 01:45:15,233
in a few places. We've heard

3766
01:45:15,233 --> 01:45:16,633
that. We'll work on that. And

3767
01:45:16,633 --> 01:45:17,800
certainly we'll keep continuing

3768
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,567
to revisit these as we progress

3769
01:45:19,567 --> 01:45:20,933
through the process and

3770
01:45:20,933 --> 01:45:21,367
hopefully memorialize it

3771
01:45:21,367 --> 01:45:23,367
into the document

3772
01:45:23,567 --> 01:45:24,600
at a later point. So thank you

3773
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,000
all very much and thank the

3774
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,600
public for being here. We

3775
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:28,333
really do appreciate the time

3776
01:45:28,333 --> 01:45:30,733
this evening. Thank you.

3777
01:45:31,467 --> 01:45:32,233
>> Agreed, wonderful. Well,

3778
01:45:32,233 --> 01:45:34,330
yeah, thanks to the Planning

3779
01:45:34,330 --> 01:45:35,000
Commission, City Council

3780
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,670
for your time, staff

3781
01:45:36,670 --> 01:45:37,500
for preparing this. And we're

3782
01:45:37,500 --> 01:45:39,200
going to adjourn. And everyone

3783
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:40,733
please have a safe and blessed

3784
01:45:40,733 --> 01:45:42,733
holiday season.