[0:09] ok.
[0:10] We
[0:13] ll start momentarily.
[0:19] Give him one more minute.
[0:21] Jim was here and he just
[0:21] stepped out. He was coming
[0:27] right back.
[0:32] No.
[0:35] There we go.
[0:37] I think, did I hear Jim out
[0:41] there? I thought so. Ok.
[0:43] Peet, are we ready? Yes sir,
[0:43] we
[0:44] re good. Ok, we
[0:45] ll call this
[0:47] meeting to order. If the clerk
[0:49] will, uh, call the roll. Sure,
[0:51] council member lines council
[0:52] member San Antonio present
[0:54] council member Schaeffer.
[0:54] Deputy Mayor o
[0:58] Hara.
[1:00] Mayor Ehler record will show
[1:01] all members of the city council
[1:02] are present tonight.
[1:04] Ok, this is a special meeting
[1:06] of the Encinitas City Council.
[1:07] Uh, we have one item on
[1:08] tonight
[1:10] s meeting, and that is
[1:11] Roadway safety and traffic
[1:13] enforcement in the city of
[1:14] Encinitas and the contact
[1:15] person is director of
[1:16] engineering Nutter.
[1:16] With that, we
[1:18] ll start with a,
[1:19] uh, staff report. All right.
[1:21] Well, good afternoon, MR. Mayor
[1:22] and council members. My name is
[1:23] Dan Nutter. I
[1:24] m the director of
[1:25] engineering and city engineer
[1:27] for the city, uh, along with me
[1:29] this afternoon, I have Matt
[1:30] Widowski, Assistant Director of
[1:32] Engineering, uh, Abe Bandigan,
[1:34] the city traffic engineer, and
[1:35] Shane Watts, who is the captain
[1:36] of the sheriff
[1:37] s office for uh
[1:38] North Coast.
[1:39] Uh, today we
[1:41] ll be talking and
[1:42] discussing about roadway safety
[1:44] and traffic enforcement.
[1:45] So we
[1:46] re gonna be discussing
[1:47] the five e
[1:48] s of traffic safety.
[1:48] We
[1:50] re gonna highlight current
[1:52] city programs, projects, and
[1:53] initiatives regarding traffic
[1:54] safety.
[1:54] We
[1:55] re going to show the city
[1:55] s
[1:56] financial commitment to Traffic
[1:58] City, uh, traffic safety.
[2:00] Uh, and then we
[2:00] ll conclude
[2:02] with city council having
[2:04] discussion.
[2:06] So first I want to get into the
[2:07] 5 e
[2:08] s of traffic safety.
[2:11] Now the 5 years of traffic
[2:13] safety are a comprehensive
[2:14] approach to improving roadway
[2:16] safety for everyone. Uh, now
[2:17] this is a framework that
[2:17] s
[2:20] evolved over time, uh, starting
[2:22] in the 1920s, this was actually
[2:23] the three e
[2:24] s of traffic safety.
[2:26] Uh, so over the years we
[2:26] ve,
[2:26] we
[2:28] ve evolved a bit and uh now
[2:28] it
[2:29] s, it
[2:30] s industry standard
[2:32] that we have these five e
[2:32] s.
[2:33] Oh,
[2:35] Is that a little better? Am I
[2:36] not talking in the mic? I
[2:38] apologize. Well, thank you guys.
[2:40] Uh, so the five e
[2:41] s of traffic
[2:43] safety are comprised of
[2:45] engineering, education,
[2:47] enforcement, encouragement and
[2:48] evaluation, uh, now really do
[2:50] want to make it clear that
[2:51] these 5 e
[2:54] s, uh, this is really
[2:56] a community comprehensive
[2:56] approach, so it
[2:57] s not just the
[2:57] city, it
[2:59] s also really engaging
[3:00] the public as well.
[3:03] Uh, so engineering is designing
[3:04] and maintaining roadway
[3:06] infrastructure to reduce risk
[3:08] and protect
[3:09] Uh, Education is teaching
[3:11] people safe behaviors and
[3:13] building awareness for all road
[3:16] users, enforcement is promoting
[3:18] safe behaviors and deterring
[3:19] deterring dangerous choices
[3:21] through fair and consistent
[3:22] enforcement.
[3:25] Encouragement is creating a
[3:28] culture that supports and
[3:31] reinforces reinforces positive,
[3:33] safe choices, and evaluation is
[3:35] making database decisions to
[3:37] analyze risks and implement
[3:39] countermeasures to to
[3:40] continuously improve our
[3:44] programs and projects.
[3:47] So engineering safer streets by
[3:50] design. Uh, so the city has
[3:53] over 45, uh, current and in
[3:54] progress.
[3:57] Projects, programs, and
[3:59] initiatives regarding
[4:00] engineering and infrastructure,
[4:01] um.
[4:01] Don
[4:02] t have all day to talk
[4:03] about all of them. I wish I did,
[4:05] but this is, is a, uh, only a 2
[4:06] hour meeting, so I
[4:07] m gonna just
[4:08] highlight some of the more
[4:10] important of the bunch.
[4:12] All right, is that any better?
[4:13] Ok, I
[4:14] m trying not to eat the
[4:16] microphone.
[4:18] Uh, so the first of which is
[4:20] our citywide lowering of speed
[4:21] limits, that
[4:23] s per ab 43 and ab
[4:25] 382, uh, so we did our first
[4:27] cut at lowering speed limits,
[4:29] uh, in 2022 and back in MAY of
[4:32] this year, council approved uh
[4:35] for staff to lower, uh, um.
[4:37] Roadway speeds on 13 different
[4:38] roadways, and this is really
[4:40] something that I wanted to be
[4:43] clear, is creating real results,
[4:44] uh, our traffic engineering
[4:46] team completed a traffic, uh,
[4:48] speed survey back in the summer
[4:51] of 2025, and that showed that
[4:51] we
[4:52] ve lowered speeds across the
[4:56] city and averaged 2.2 mph. Uh,
[4:57] so really it that showing that
[4:58] we are doing the right things,
[4:58] we
[4:59] re going in the right
[5:01] direction, a great results.
[5:03] Uh, we have an initiative where
[5:05] we are red curbing within
[5:08] school zones, uh, per the
[5:08] state
[5:09] s daylighting law to make
[5:12] sure that pedestrians, uh,
[5:13] specifically students and
[5:14] parents, uh, there are more
[5:18] visibility, uh, for. Oh,
[5:20] perfect. Ok, um.
[5:22] For more visibility for those
[5:24] students and and uh parents as
[5:25] they
[5:25] re walking through
[5:26] crosswalks, we
[5:27] re enhancing
[5:28] visibility at pedestrian
[5:30] crossings where improving
[5:31] bicycle and pedestrian
[5:32] facilities were optimizing
[5:34] traffic signal performance, and
[5:36] we are initiating an adaptive
[5:37] signal timing pilot program, uh,
[5:40] those two last ones, the
[5:41] traffic signal related items
[5:44] are really important for our
[5:45] corridors to help reduce
[5:47] queuing, um, that helps reduce
[5:49] the number of crashes, um, red
[5:50] light running.
[5:53] Things of that nature.
[5:55] We have a safe routes to school
[5:58] program, um, every year our
[5:59] traffic engineering team works
[6:01] with the various school
[6:03] districts, and we come up with
[6:04] important pedestrian and
[6:07] bicycle improvements, uh, this
[6:09] is a snippet of some of the
[6:09] improvements that we
[6:10] ve done
[6:12] with our fiscal year 26 program
[6:14] that ended uh just a couple of
[6:16] months back on the top left, we
[6:18] have a new signalized uh
[6:20] crosswalk along El Camino Real,
[6:20] that
[6:21] s at Crest Street.
[6:24] Uh, bottom left is a new
[6:25] rectangular rapid flashing
[6:27] beacon at Requasia and then on
[6:29] the right is a new rrfb at
[6:34] Vulcan and Glaucus.
[6:36] Not only do we care about
[6:38] having safe crossings for
[6:39] pedestrian and bicyclists along
[6:41] all of our roadways, but we
[6:43] also care about having safe
[6:44] crossings along the railroad
[6:47] tracks. Um.
[6:50] We have 3 distinct projects
[6:52] with 6 pedestrian and bicycle
[6:54] crossings, uh, that are in
[6:56] progress right now uh with the
[6:57] city, uh, now some really great
[6:59] news, if, if you have not heard,
[7:01] uh, the city was actually
[7:03] awarded a $33.6 million dollar
[7:05] grant by the Federal Railroad
[7:06] Administration. Uh, we heard
[7:08] about a week and a half ago, uh,
[7:08] that
[7:11] s gonna help make these 3
[7:13] projects a reality. Uh, two of
[7:14] the, uh, renderings that you
[7:16] see here, uh, those are related
[7:18] toward Leucadia at grade
[7:20] crossing projects. So again,
[7:21] really important safety
[7:25] infrastructure improvements.
[7:25] We
[7:26] ve been installing
[7:28] pedestrian refuge islands. So
[7:28] you
[7:29] re seeing more of these
[7:31] across the city. Uh, this
[7:33] really helps break long
[7:34] crossings into smaller, more
[7:35] manageable segments. Uh, this
[7:38] here is on Highway 101 at 8th
[7:39] Street. Uh, we recently
[7:42] installed a new refuge island
[7:44] on Lucadia Boulevard at Hygia.
[7:46] We have a new one planned for
[7:47] Saxony at the ymca, uh, and
[7:50] then we also have one, plan per
[7:52] council direction at the
[7:53] Village Parkway at Parkdale
[7:56] Lane.
[7:57] We
[7:58] re installing rectangular
[8:00] rapid flashing beacons or RRFBs,
[8:00] you
[8:00] re, you
[8:01] re seeing these
[8:03] around town. Uh, this would be
[8:05] something that we would be
[8:06] installing at uncontrolled
[8:08] intersections to help provide a
[8:09] higher visibility for our
[8:11] pedestrians that are crossing
[8:12] the roadway. Uh, it
[8:13] s also an
[8:15] active measure to improve
[8:16] driver awareness for pedestrian
[8:18] activity, and one of the really
[8:19] important aspects here is it
[8:20] s
[8:21] cost effective solution that we
[8:24] can deploy very quickly.
[8:27] Uh, leading pedestrian interval,
[8:28] uh, or lpi, that
[8:29] s a recent
[8:29] project that we
[8:30] ve installed at
[8:32] uh nearly all of our signalized
[8:33] intersections, and what that
[8:36] does is that allows pedestrians
[8:37] to start crossing in the
[8:39] crosswalk before vehicles are
[8:41] able to go, um, and that really
[8:42] helps reduce conflicts between
[8:46] pedestrians and vehicles.
[8:46] We
[8:48] re improving visibility with
[8:49] our signal upgrades, so over
[8:50] the last couple months, you
[8:51] ve
[8:52] likely seen our initiative, uh,
[8:56] where we are starting to, uh,
[8:58] install a high visibility
[9:00] reflective traffic signal
[9:01] backplates uh on our traffic
[9:03] signals. So this really helps
[9:04] reduce red light running and
[9:05] certain types of intersection
[9:06] crashes.
[9:08] As an example, uh, this is
[9:09] Highway 101 at Lucadia
[9:11] Boulevard. Uh, you see the, the
[9:13] before on the left and the
[9:15] after on the right, and you see
[9:16] Leuccadia Roadside Park in the
[9:19] background, uh, really a nice
[9:21] heightened, uh, ability for us
[9:22] to, uh, show our uh traffic
[9:25] signals.
[9:28] Ok, onto e number 2, education.
[9:28] We
[9:29] re reaching residents,
[9:31] students and visitors.
[9:32] Uh, the sheriff
[9:33] s office does a
[9:35] know your limits campaign to
[9:37] help educate, uh, limits of
[9:38] intoxication for drivers. They
[9:39] go out to the community a
[9:41] couple of times a year, uh,
[9:43] really, really great event.
[9:43] i
[9:45] ve been out before, um, and
[9:47] it helps individuals that are
[9:49] out on the town, understand
[9:51] what that level of intoxication
[9:54] truly feels like.
[9:55] You have bicycle education and
[9:57] safety courses, so our parks
[9:59] and rec department, um, twice a
[10:02] month they offer a 2 hour
[10:04] bicycle skills and education
[10:06] safety course, uh, this is
[10:07] always packed. Uh, it
[10:08] s a great
[10:09] event, highly recommend you
[10:10] attend it if you have not, uh,
[10:11] especially if you have a
[10:14] younger bike riders.
[10:17] And then we do e-bike safety
[10:18] training and public outreach.
[10:21] So on AUGUST 4th, uh, we had a
[10:23] joint city and Sheriff e-bike
[10:25] safety workshop.
[10:26] And on AUGUST 19th, city
[10:28] council held an e-bike safety
[10:32] public meeting.
[10:34] Ok, onto e number 3,
[10:34] enforcement. We
[10:35] re deterring
[10:37] dangerous behaviors.
[10:39] In fiscal year 26, uh, city
[10:41] council funded 2 new traffic
[10:43] enforcement deputies.
[10:44] Uh, the sheriff
[10:45] s office does
[10:47] monthly traffic blitzes with
[10:48] targeted enforcement.
[10:50] Uh, they do e-bike enforcement,
[10:53] including seizures of e-bikes.
[10:54] And want to make a special note
[10:56] that city council is gonna hold
[10:59] a public meeting to discuss and
[11:00] explore the applicability of
[11:03] red light camera detection for
[11:06] sb 720 on SEPTEMBER 9th of this
[11:06] year.
[11:07] Now with that, I
[11:07] m gonna hand
[11:09] it over to Captain Watts to
[11:09] talk a little bit more about
[11:12] enforcement.
[11:14] Thank you, Dan, um, Captain
[11:15] Watts with the sheriff
[11:15] s office
[11:17] out of the North Coastal
[11:18] Station, um, you know.
[11:20] Where I fit in and in this
[11:22] conversation, I think is very
[11:25] important, um, and, you know,
[11:28] enforcement in itself is
[11:30] obviously important and we have
[11:31] done more we have really
[11:33] maximized our resources we have
[11:36] looked at how we can really
[11:39] change driver behavior with, um,
[11:41] maximizing enforcement, but.
[11:43] For me, more of the
[11:44] conversation, you know,
[11:46] education plays a huge piece in
[11:47] this as well, and that
[11:48] s why we
[11:50] have done a lot of education,
[11:51] um, one of the slides I
[11:52] ll show
[11:55] here in a second, you know, it
[11:56] captures how we
[11:57] ve maximize our
[11:58] enforcement, how we are doing
[12:00] more out on our roadways, uh,
[12:01] to change driver behavior, but
[12:02] what it doesn
[12:04] t capture is the
[12:06] countless contacts that we have
[12:08] with the community that um you
[12:09] know, results in the, uh, in a
[12:11] warning or that it
[12:11] s a.
[12:12] Chance for education. It
[12:12] s a
[12:14] chance to have that
[12:16] communication and, you know, I,
[12:18] I, I do believe that, uh, yes,
[12:19] enforcement is necessary, but a
[12:21] lot of times the person that
[12:22] leaves with a warning comes
[12:23] away with just as much as
[12:24] somebody that leaves with a
[12:25] ticket. So I think it
[12:26] s, uh,
[12:28] appropriate, um, that we
[12:30] balance that and we make sure
[12:32] that uh for one that we are
[12:33] doing that enforcement. We are
[12:35] maximizing it, but when there
[12:38] is room for education that we,
[12:40] uh, give some education. Um,
[12:41] another part of that that.
[12:42] Um,
[12:46] I think is equally important is
[12:48] the community and working with
[12:49] our community partners to
[12:52] address some of these, um,
[12:55] concerned areas on our roadways
[12:56] that need more focused
[12:58] enforcement or just need us to
[13:00] go out there and see what the
[13:00] community
[13:01] s seeing, um, I, I
[13:03] mean recently we went out on a
[13:05] bike ride, um, and we actually
[13:07] rode with community members. We
[13:08] rode around the city and we
[13:11] looked at areas from their
[13:13] perspective on.
[13:14] Uh, where we could, we could do
[13:16] more enforcement and even other
[13:18] areas that we can improve as a
[13:21] whole with the city, um, so, uh,
[13:23] working with our community, um,
[13:25] and bringing them in has been
[13:28] such a reward working with Safe
[13:31] Streets and uh hearing the
[13:34] ideas and uh our our mts
[13:35] commission has been wonderful.
[13:37] They have really been a huge
[13:39] help, um, but I think that that
[13:41] is important is really engaging
[13:43] with the community.
[13:45] Doing the enforcement and also
[13:47] that education and I will say
[13:48] you know as a whole, as we go
[13:51] into the slides, I think that
[13:55] that whole um circle approach
[13:57] is where and how we have gotten
[13:59] to where we are now. So next
[14:00] slide, please. So if you look,
[14:02] um, once again, uh, I have
[14:04] always said that I am always
[14:06] looking to maximize our
[14:06] resources. I
[14:07] m always looking
[14:10] for those, uh, deputy initiated
[14:11] activities, those proactive
[14:12] contacts to
[14:14] Improve. So improving off of,
[14:17] uh, 2025, you can see that we
[14:18] are continuing to approve this
[14:20] year. We are, we are ahead of
[14:23] where we were last year, and we
[14:24] continue that upward trend, um,
[14:25] and this is the momentum that
[14:28] we continue to strive for and
[14:29] and build upon, um, but you
[14:31] know.
[14:32] It
[14:34] s only meaningful if the
[14:36] results are meaningful, um, and
[14:38] so when I look at, ok, we are
[14:39] maximizing our enforcement, but
[14:42] the real goal is to change
[14:43] driver behavior so that our
[14:44] roadways are safer. So next
[14:46] slide please.
[14:46] So that
[14:47] s when this comes, you
[14:49] know, I, I constantly am
[14:51] looking at this to see monthly
[14:53] where we are as far as
[14:55] collisions throughout the city
[14:58] and as you can see, um, we are.
[15:01] We have less collisions this
[15:03] year so far than we did last
[15:06] year. Um, those are, uh, the
[15:09] results of everything I
[15:10] mentioned before and with the
[15:13] enforcement, but I really think,
[15:13] and I
[15:14] m optimistic to think
[15:16] that we are changing that
[15:17] driver behavior. People are
[15:18] slowing down with some of the
[15:18] measures that we
[15:19] ve done with
[15:21] the city, um, some of the
[15:24] infrastructure change, um, I
[15:26] think people are paying more
[15:27] attention. Um, they
[15:27] re not on
[15:28] their cell phones like they
[15:29] were.
[15:29] They
[15:30] re not speeding as much as
[15:31] they were, um, we
[15:31] re, we
[15:32] re
[15:33] really putting that message out
[15:35] to stop at stop signs, stop at
[15:36] red lights. Um, it
[15:37] s not worth.
[15:39] Running a red light or a stop
[15:41] sign, putting everybody else on
[15:44] the roadway, um, in danger. So,
[15:45] uh, I am happy we
[15:45] re with where
[15:46] we are. I think that, um, you
[15:48] know, the summertime, we get so
[15:51] many people that come into our,
[15:53] um, city to enjoy our beaches
[15:56] and our establishments, um, and
[15:56] that
[15:58] s when traditionally we
[16:00] have seen a rise in collisions,
[16:01] but I really think that because
[16:03] the word has gotten out, we
[16:03] ve
[16:06] placed, um, even our, uh,
[16:07] digital signs as you come into
[16:08] our community.
[16:09] To let people know, to slow
[16:10] down, um, we
[16:11] re paying
[16:12] attention. There
[16:13] s more of us
[16:14] out there and we are doing more
[16:15] enforcement, so I
[16:16] m happy with
[16:17] where we are. There
[16:17] s still
[16:18] room for improvement. We will
[16:19] continue to improve.
[16:20] Next slide.
[16:22] Um, this was one of the areas
[16:24] that when I was looking at our,
[16:26] uh, DUIs.
[16:30] You know, um, I wanted, and we,
[16:32] I think, needed at the time and,
[16:34] um, when we presented it to the
[16:36] city and to the council and
[16:38] mayor that we really needed
[16:41] that extra enforcement for our
[16:44] DUIs and when we were able to
[16:46] add those two dui, uh, deputies
[16:47] that are solely out there
[16:49] looking to take these impaired
[16:50] drivers off our roadways to
[16:54] make them safer. Um, we saw our
[16:56] arrests go up, but we also
[16:56] started to.
[16:58] See that there were more ride
[16:59] shares at some of our
[17:01] establishments at the end of
[17:02] the, at the end of the night,
[17:03] which is a positive thing
[17:04] that
[17:05] s what we want. We want
[17:06] people to make those smart
[17:08] decisions, not get in their car,
[17:09] um, while they, while they
[17:10] re
[17:10] intoxicated, and that
[17:12] s where
[17:13] uh the know your limits. I
[17:14] think that was huge. We went
[17:15] out there with the community
[17:16] and there were so many people
[17:20] that came up to our booth as an
[17:21] educational piece and they blew
[17:22] in our breathalyzer and they
[17:24] were astonished that they were
[17:26] over the legal limit, um, and
[17:27] they.
[17:29] Many of them said, I thought I
[17:30] probably was ok to drive and
[17:32] they made smarter choices that
[17:32] night, and it
[17:33] s that ripple
[17:34] effect that we
[17:34] re looking for.
[17:35] So we
[17:35] ve done it twice, we
[17:36] ll
[17:40] continue to do those, um.
[17:42] And getting ahead of those DUIs
[17:43] is so important because if we
[17:45] can take them off the roadway
[17:48] before a collision, before they
[17:50] crash into our infrastructure,
[17:52] um, then we are all safer, and
[17:54] that is the commitment that, uh,
[17:54] I make. That
[17:55] s the commitment
[17:56] that our deputies are out there
[17:57] making.
[17:59] Next slide.
[18:01] And then once again, when we
[18:03] look at the results, um, yes,
[18:03] we
[18:03] re doing more enforcement,
[18:05] but what does that look like?
[18:07] And what it looks like is we
[18:08] re
[18:11] having less dui collisions. So,
[18:14] our infrastructure is not being,
[18:17] um, constantly, uh, hit, um, or
[18:19] roundabouts or are being
[18:22] navigated appropriately and, um,
[18:22] we
[18:23] re not seeing those
[18:25] collisions as a result of
[18:26] impaired driving, um, so I
[18:27] think that, you know, as long
[18:28] as we keep those.
[18:30] Um,
[18:30] And we
[18:32] re, we continue to focus
[18:34] on, yes, the enforcement, but
[18:36] we should see some positive
[18:38] results as well. And I think we
[18:39] are seeing that. I think I
[18:39] m
[18:41] happy on the road that we are
[18:42] going. Like I said, there
[18:43] s
[18:46] always room for improvement, um,
[18:48] and I have committed many times
[18:50] that that will be my commitment
[18:52] is that we are consistently and
[18:54] constantly looking for outside
[18:57] of the box ideas, um, the
[18:58] traffic safety monthly, uh,
[19:00] enforcement, you know, that
[19:00] that
[19:00] s something that.
[19:02] It now has gotten to other
[19:03] cities. I
[19:04] ve had phone calls
[19:05] from other cities. I
[19:06] ve had, uh,
[19:08] phone calls from other station
[19:10] captains asking like, what are
[19:11] you guys doing over there? What,
[19:13] what, tell me more about these,
[19:14] um, enforcement days because
[19:15] it
[19:16] s not often that a captain
[19:18] and a lieutenants and all the
[19:20] sergeants and your detectives
[19:22] are all in uniform in a patrol
[19:23] car out making stops. And I
[19:24] m
[19:25] out there making stops and I
[19:26] m
[19:28] talking to the community, um,
[19:28] but that
[19:29] s important because it
[19:31] takes all of us.
[19:33] To make those changes. Um, so
[19:33] I
[19:34] m proud of the efforts that
[19:37] we have, uh, made, um, and we
[19:39] will continue to, to push
[19:41] forward, uh, roadway safety
[19:42] will be my priority. Vision
[19:45] Zero, I do not want to lose one
[19:47] life on our roadways, um.
[19:48] And so anything and everything
[19:50] that I can do to prevent that
[19:54] and to educate our drivers, our,
[19:55] uh, bicyclists, our
[19:55] e-bicyclists, I
[19:56] m gonna
[20:00] continue to do that.
[20:02] And working with our uh with
[20:04] the uh traffic mobility
[20:06] commission, um, you know, when
[20:08] I started really looking at the,
[20:10] the information that we were
[20:14] providing them, um, it, it.
[20:15] It wasn
[20:17] t what, um, it needed
[20:20] to be. Um, if we truly want to
[20:22] give them the tools to, um,
[20:24] look at some of these areas or
[20:25] make some change, then we have
[20:27] to provide them with the
[20:28] information that they need to
[20:30] do that. Um, and, you know, the,
[20:31] the, the, well, that
[20:31] s how
[20:32] we
[20:33] ve always done it. That
[20:33] s
[20:34] not good enough. If we can make
[20:35] it better, we
[20:36] ll make it better.
[20:40] And I was so happy and, and, um,
[20:41] appreciative to be able to sit
[20:43] down with, uh, some of the
[20:44] commissioners to really
[20:46] make this report something that
[20:48] was tangible and something that
[20:51] they could act upon, um, and we
[20:52] have gotten it to a point where
[20:53] I really think there
[20:54] s a lot
[20:56] there, um, next slide, please.
[20:59] One of the examples is we are
[21:01] now showing as the year
[21:04] progresses, what are traffic
[21:05] accidents where they
[21:05] re
[21:07] occurring and you can start to
[21:10] see on the map where our, you
[21:13] know, problematic or concerns
[21:14] are, and we need to
[21:17] start looking at those areas to
[21:18] see is, is it an enforcement
[21:20] issue? Do we need to do more
[21:23] enforcement? Is it, um, a
[21:25] result of infrastructure. What
[21:27] is that? And I think that by
[21:29] providing them with this
[21:29] information, it
[21:31] s giving us
[21:33] that perspective and allowing
[21:35] us to start focusing in where
[21:36] we can make some positive
[21:37] change.
[21:39] Next slide. Same with our dui,
[21:41] uh, enforcement. This is, uh,
[21:42] one of the things that we
[21:44] started doing to show where
[21:47] these dui arrests are occurring
[21:48] and what wasn
[21:50] t captured in the
[21:51] previous slide that showed the
[21:54] total amount is a lot of these
[21:56] DUIs, um, they either are, by
[21:57] the time that we get behind
[21:59] them, we observed the impaired
[22:00] driving, and we are ready to
[22:02] make that traffic stop. They
[22:02] d
[22:04] be exited our city, so the
[22:05] contact happens in another
[22:07] jurisdiction.
[22:10] Or they have, uh, gone onto the
[22:12] freeway, the on-ramp, um, so
[22:13] that when we actually do make
[22:15] that arrest, it doesn
[22:16] t count
[22:18] in our statistics. It counts in
[22:21] the city of the arrest. Um, so
[22:21] there
[22:22] s actually more than what
[22:25] is, uh, being shown, but, um, I
[22:25] think it
[22:27] s interesting to see
[22:28] where these arrests are
[22:29] occurring.
[22:30] And I think with that I
[22:30] ll turn
[22:33] it back over.
[22:36] Ok.
[22:38] Uh, 4 encouragement, where we
[22:40] are developing positive habits.
[22:42] So, uh, here at the city, we
[22:44] have a culture built around
[22:47] safety where we are encouraging
[22:48] residents to consistently
[22:50] practice and promote safe
[22:53] transportation habits daily.
[22:54] We have our school crossing
[22:58] guard program. Uh, this is a
[23:00] fifty-fifty cost share between
[23:01] the city and the school
[23:02] districts, and it
[23:03] s a
[23:05] cost-effective and safe program
[23:07] that helps uh keep our kids and
[23:08] parents safe while they
[23:09] re
[23:11] walking to and from school, uh,
[23:13] city council added a 15th
[23:15] crossing guard for fiscal year
[23:17] 27, so really an awesome and
[23:18] important program for us here
[23:19] at the city, um, and the
[23:22] community.
[23:22] You
[23:24] ve likely seen our
[23:25] changeable message signs uh
[23:27] deployed throughout the city.
[23:30] This was a city council
[23:31] initiated request by the deputy
[23:32] mayor, um, and it
[23:33] s really been
[23:35] a, a great tool where we, we
[23:39] are able to give um awareness
[23:41] and behavior feedback, uh,
[23:42] immediately, and that helps
[23:44] disrupt and interrupt a routine
[23:46] driving habits, so that way the
[23:48] hope and thought is while
[23:48] you
[23:49] re driving along, you are
[23:51] seeing some of these signs and.
[23:53] Creating good habits, uh,
[23:56] regularly.
[23:58] Our speed radar feedback signs.
[24:00] Uh, so these are, are wonderful
[24:02] to help give you an immediate
[24:03] um.
[24:04] Idea of what your speed is. I,
[24:05] I know you
[24:06] re not always
[24:08] looking at your speedometer. So
[24:10] the speed radar feedback signs
[24:12] do a great job of giving you
[24:14] that immediate feedback that
[24:16] really hopes to uh encourage
[24:17] drivers to slow down when
[24:19] needed.
[24:21] And number 5 is evaluation
[24:23] where we are making data-driven
[24:26] decisions. So, Encinitas uses
[24:28] data analysis to direct
[24:30] resources in the appropriate
[24:32] location to increase roadway
[24:33] safety. Uh, an example of this
[24:35] is our local roadway safety
[24:39] plan, or lrsp, um, the lrsp is
[24:42] an has analyzed collision
[24:44] patterns and prioritize
[24:46] evidence-based countermeasures
[24:47] like leading pedestrian
[24:48] interval and speed management
[24:50] to enhance safety. So that is a
[24:50] document.
[24:52] That we have compiled and that
[24:53] has been approved by council
[24:55] and it has projects uh that are
[24:57] uh based on priority that the
[24:58] city is currently moving
[25:00] forward with implementing.
[25:02] Uh, I also wanted to touch base
[25:04] and, and uh speak briefly on
[25:06] our draft comprehensive safety
[25:08] action plan. Uh, so our
[25:09] comprehensive safety Action
[25:12] Plan or cisap, um, that is a
[25:14] document that similarly is data
[25:15] driven, um.
[25:17] And on that.
[25:19] We do have to make an update to
[25:21] the circulation element, which
[25:23] is currently underway. Uh, that
[25:24] includes the safe system
[25:26] approach. Uh, once our
[25:27] circulation element is
[25:28] finalized, uh, we will move
[25:32] forward with, uh, that draft
[25:33] csap to finalize the csap, uh,
[25:35] but did want to make clear that
[25:37] even though this is supposed to
[25:38] be a comprehensive safety
[25:39] action plan. It
[25:39] s actually not
[25:42] comprehensive. Um, it only
[25:43] discusses incis Boulevard and
[25:45] El Camino Real, uh, so that is
[25:47] another adjustment that we need
[25:48] to look at.
[25:50] Uh, potentially for, uh, the
[25:51] finalization of our csap, uh,
[25:52] but the real important thing
[25:54] here is not the document or
[25:54] whether it
[25:55] s in draft or final
[25:56] form.
[25:58] Is the reality that we
[25:58] ve
[26:00] already as a city implemented
[26:02] 40 of the near term projects.
[26:03] So, um, whether it
[26:03] s been
[26:05] finalized or not, we still
[26:07] utilize that document to
[26:08] determine important projects to
[26:10] move forward on.
[26:11] Uh, here
[26:12] s an example of our
[26:14] lrsp. On the left is a little
[26:16] bit of a heat map, uh, that
[26:16] s
[26:17] collision, uh, based
[26:18] information, and then on the
[26:22] right, uh, that is one of the
[26:24] tables within the document that
[26:27] gives you a, an analyzed
[26:30] determination of uh based on
[26:33] cost of what are most um or
[26:34] highest intersection collision
[26:36] area um and prioritization
[26:38] would be.
[26:41] Now
[26:42] Even though there are a lot of
[26:43] great things that we
[26:43] ve been
[26:45] talking about, um.
[26:46] What have, what
[26:47] s the city
[26:49] really committed to these, uh,
[26:51] so the financial commitment has
[26:53] been extraordinary. Uh, when I
[26:54] started putting these numbers
[26:56] together, I, I was really,
[26:58] really actually amazed by uh by
[27:01] all the, the money that we are,
[27:02] uh, putting towards the five
[27:03] e
[27:06] s, uh, so over the last two
[27:09] fiscal years, our expenditures
[27:11] plus the the estimated
[27:13] expenditures for this fiscal
[27:13] year.
[27:16] Or over $60 million. Uh, so
[27:16] that
[27:19] s $1.6 million for the two
[27:22] new traffic deputies.
[27:22] That
[27:25] s over $560,000 for a
[27:28] school crossing guard program,
[27:31] $58 million for roadway safety
[27:33] infrastructure improvements.
[27:35] $160,000 for a bike safety
[27:37] education, uh, so it
[27:37] s not just
[27:39] talk here at the city, really,
[27:40] it is a huge investment and
[27:42] extremely important to us.
[27:43] Uh, so, ultimately, to conclude,
[27:46] uh, the city has an integrated
[27:47] safety program.
[27:49] We utilize the Five e
[27:49] s
[27:51] framework, we have a sustained
[27:52] investment.
[27:55] And we have a community
[27:56] collaborative approach to
[27:57] roadway safety and traffic
[28:00] enforcement.
[28:03] Thank you.
[28:05] So for, I guess.
[28:08] First of all, any questions of
[28:10] clarification from city council.
[28:10] If not, we
[28:12] ll go to public. How
[28:14] many speakers? 20 speakers, so
[28:16] I mean we want to do public
[28:16] input tonight. So we
[28:17] re gonna
[28:18] do the full 3 minutes and
[28:19] that
[28:21] s gonna take us an hour,
[28:23] hopefully, people can be prompt
[28:25] if you could, uh, the next stop
[28:26] and the next, next up, if you
[28:28] can move to the front row, just,
[28:29] uh, keep it moving quickly. We
[28:30] want to get through this an
[28:32] hour, in an hour, so we have
[28:34] time to, to discuss up here too.
[28:38] So, with that, 1st 3 speakers,
[28:39] Paul Chester, followed by Patty
[29:01] Stoudemire, and then Ron Medek.
[29:03] Hello.
[29:06] Hello.
[29:08] I had 2
[29:11] I submitted two visual aids.
[29:13] Uh, one, first one.
[29:16] No.
[29:18] The first one that
[29:19] That
[29:21] s the 2nd 1, but the 1st 1
[29:23] that I presented, uh, I had
[29:28] submitted on the 14th to the uh
[29:29] engineering department.
[29:32] Uh, the second one was, uh, I,
[29:34] I wrote to the.
[29:36] Author of an article which was
[29:38] in the Encinitas Advocate.
[29:41] On the
[29:43] 7th of AUGUST after she wrote
[29:45] an article about.
[29:48] Uh, the deaths of children over
[29:49] the last couple of years, let
[29:49] s
[29:51] hold the, uh, time for a minute
[29:53] here. Um um, do we have both
[29:55] and uh, you do? Ok.
[29:57] Just wanted to check, ok go
[30:00] ahead the first one.
[30:02] If I could
[30:08] Go to the other one first.
[30:10] Ok, has to do, this is the one
[30:13] I had submitted to the engineer
[30:15] department. The crosswalk,
[30:18] which is an equestrian,
[30:20] pedestrian crosswalk in on uh
[30:21] El Camino.
[30:23] Um, El Norte.
[30:25] Uh, where there was fatality a
[30:28] month ago.
[30:29] The problem there and I
[30:30] ve been
[30:32] walking and running this area,
[30:34] jogging this area for over 40
[30:35] years.
[30:37] Is that
[30:38] When during the summer when the
[30:39] sun.
[30:42] Comes up from the east right
[30:46] down the road, it is blinding
[30:49] to cars headed eastward and,
[30:51] and around 5 or 67 o
[30:51] clock at
[30:52] this time of year, it
[30:53] s
[30:54] blinding to those going
[30:56] westward, and that was involved,
[30:58] that involved in that accident
[30:58] or the driver didn
[31:00] t see the
[31:02] person and so what I
[31:03] m think,
[31:05] while they have blink, the
[31:08] blinking blinking lights at the
[31:10] crosswalk since the cars are
[31:10] speeding.
[31:13] like 40, 50 miles an hour.
[31:15] It would be better to have
[31:17] another one.
[31:20] That blinks 300 ft to the east.
[31:22] On the west coast right at the
[31:26] end of the uh Escondido Bridge.
[31:27] Escondido Creek Bridge and also.
[31:31] One
[31:33] On the westbound, excuse me, on
[31:36] the eastbound, west of the
[31:38] crossing at the rise. There is
[31:40] a, there is a diamond sign
[31:41] there.
[31:43] That says
[31:45] Uh, trail crossing ahead, but
[31:48] the drivers in those cars
[31:50] cannot see that crosswalk until
[31:52] 7 seconds before they get to
[31:54] that crosswalk.
[31:56] The drivers on the going the
[31:58] other direction.
[32:00] Um, going westbound, it
[32:01] s 4 to
[32:02] 5 seconds from the time they
[32:04] get to the end of the bridge,
[32:04] but they can
[32:06] t really see that
[32:07] blinking light because there
[32:08] s
[32:10] bushes that have overgrown and
[32:12] block it. So that was our short
[32:14] periods of time for somebody
[32:14] who
[32:16] s looking into the bright
[32:18] sunshine, and that
[32:18] s for
[32:20] probably at least a couple of
[32:22] months of the year. So I, by
[32:24] putting the uh when the person
[32:26] pushes a button to cross the
[32:29] crosswalk. If those blink.
[32:33] 3 400 ft prior, I think the
[32:36] speeding drivers would have a
[32:38] better chance of being alerted
[32:40] and slowing down.
[32:40] So that
[32:41] s, that
[32:42] s involves that
[32:47] one, the 2nd, 2nd, um.
[32:49] Yeah, sorry, 3 minutes goes by
[32:52] quickly. Oh, ok. Well, second
[32:52] one, yeah, I
[32:54] m sorry, yeah, you
[32:55] have to, we, we have to limit
[32:57] it to 3, so.
[32:58] We, and we have the written,
[33:00] written version you gave us.
[33:15] Patty.
[33:18] Wow.
[33:22] Ok, um, mayor council road
[33:23] safety, um, I
[33:24] d like to thank
[33:27] you, uh, the staff, the
[33:29] mobility and traffic commission
[33:30] and the council for all you
[33:33] have done in the last 2 years
[33:36] to improve road safety for all
[33:38] modes of mobility.
[33:38] Oh, here
[33:40] s a clicker.
[33:42] Uh, and I do believe you
[33:42] re
[33:45] willing to continue with these
[33:47] efforts and more, some some in
[33:49] our community are saying
[33:51] efforts are not being made to
[33:53] ensure safety and are
[33:55] advocating for a complete
[33:59] adaptation of this vision Zero
[34:01] program citing success with
[34:03] this program in Hoboken, New
[34:05] Jersey, 9 years with no
[34:08] fatalities, um, now I looked on
[34:11] the Vision Zero website and it.
[34:13] Looks like much of what they
[34:13] re
[34:14] doing, you
[34:14] ve already done,
[34:16] maybe not all of it, but a lot
[34:17] of it.
[34:21] Now Hoboken, New Jersey,
[34:25] population 60,000 in a 1.2
[34:28] square mile area.
[34:31] Encinitas population 60,000, 20
[34:34] square miles, um, so Hoboken,
[34:34] let
[34:35] s see where it is. It
[34:35] s
[34:36] like a stone
[34:39] s throw across the
[34:42] Hudson River from midtown
[34:44] Manhattan and that dark blue
[34:47] line there is like their uh
[34:49] mobile transport like a subway
[34:50] going over, um, according to
[34:53] Brave ai 75% of residents in
[34:55] Hoboken, New Jersey do not own
[34:57] a car attributed to the.
[34:57] City
[34:59] s high walkability, public
[35:02] transport, and parking
[35:04] difficulties and 80% of the
[35:06] commuters travel to work
[35:08] without a personal vehicle.
[35:08] So they
[35:09] re not really like
[35:12] Encinitas, but his vision zero
[35:15] foolproof of zero fatalities
[35:17] for 2 consecutive years or more
[35:21] in all cities it is implemented
[35:21] in.
[35:24] According to Chat gbt, cities
[35:26] with two consecutive years of
[35:28] zero fatalities. Well, they
[35:28] didn
[35:31] t have any, u, other than
[35:35] Hoboken, New Jersey City had
[35:39] one. Alexandria 10 year Alameda
[35:41] one San Francisco, San Jose,
[35:43] Fremont, Los Angeles, New York,
[35:44] none.
[35:45] So, uh, thank you, City of
[35:47] Encinitas for all you have done
[35:50] and will continue to do for
[35:52] improving our road safety for
[36:01] all in Encinitas.
[36:02] Martin, I have a couple of
[36:03] things that have come up, right?
[36:10] Yes you did.
[36:11] Do you want to uh work with him
[36:12] and we
[36:13] ll go to the next one
[36:17] and insert you in later so.
[36:19] Next 3 speakers, Peter Tobias,
[36:21] followed by Johnny Durbin and
[36:32] then John Eldon.
[36:33] Good afternoon. My name is
[36:35] Peter Tobias. I
[36:37] ve lived at 564
[36:39] Arden Drive just east of here,
[36:41] about 3 blocks since 1980.
[36:43] I strongly believe that we do
[36:44] not have enough traffic
[36:45] enforcement.
[36:47] Whether that means more
[36:49] deputies or more electronic
[36:51] enforcement, we need it.
[36:51] I don
[36:53] t know whether the two
[36:54] new traffic enforcement, I
[36:55] don
[36:57] t know where the two new
[36:58] traffic enforcement deputies
[36:59] mentioned in today
[37:00] s paperwork,
[37:02] but I have not seen them or
[37:04] virtually any deputies in my
[37:06] part of Encinitas.
[37:06] Let
[37:07] s talk about speed limits.
[37:10] As you know, the city lowered
[37:11] many speed limits a year or two
[37:14] ago, but without enforcement of
[37:16] those limits, all they do is
[37:17] teach people that there are no
[37:20] consequences to speeding.
[37:22] Where do people speed in my
[37:23] neighborhood, they speed on
[37:26] Requeza between Walk West Lake,
[37:27] and the freeway. The speed
[37:29] limit there is 20 miles an hour.
[37:31] But even the kids on their
[37:34] e-bikes break that record.
[37:36] If I try to observe it.
[37:38] The traffic behind me honks
[37:40] their horns.
[37:41] Earlier this afternoon, I was
[37:43] driving west on La Costa
[37:45] between El Camino Real and the
[37:47] freeway. I was passed by a car
[37:48] going just under 70 miles an
[37:49] hour.
[37:52] I know that because briefly I
[37:53] matched his speed and checked
[37:56] my speedometer.
[37:57] Another place they speed is on
[37:59] the Coast Highway, coming north
[38:01] out of Solana Beach. The 30
[38:03] minute mile per hour speed
[38:05] limit there is routinely
[38:07] flouted despite
[38:09] Informational science that we
[38:10] saw earlier.
[38:10] Let
[38:12] s talk about red lights.
[38:13] Most of the problems I
[38:13] ve seen
[38:15] are at the Ramble crossings at
[38:18] d and e Streets on 101 downtown
[38:20] because I spent a lot of time
[38:22] in that part of the city.
[38:24] A few weeks ago, I was trying
[38:25] to back out of the single
[38:28] parking space in front of
[38:28] Mauricio
[38:30] s Italian restaurant.
[38:32] A truck horn blared as I was
[38:33] backing up, and when I looked
[38:35] to see what was going on, the
[38:37] truck sped through the Ramble
[38:38] Crossing as the light turned
[38:40] red.
[38:42] At that same intersection of d
[38:45] and 101, 2 weeks ago, I started
[38:47] to cross going west just after
[38:49] the red lights came on and a
[38:51] truck came out of d Street
[38:52] headed east and turned left,
[38:53] right in front of me.
[38:55] When I tried to signal the
[38:57] driver to stop, he certainly
[39:00] saw me well enough because he
[39:02] gave me the finger.
[39:03] We haven
[39:03] t talked about stop
[39:04] signs.
[39:05] I haven
[39:06] t talked about stop
[39:08] signs. If you want to see how
[39:09] people use stop signs in this
[39:12] city. Go up here 100 yards to
[39:13] the corner of Cornish and d
[39:14] Street.
[39:17] By the dog park across from the
[39:19] library as I was walking down
[39:21] here, I saw 4 cars go through
[39:23] that stop sign without stopping.
[39:27] Three of them slowed slightly,
[39:28] and one of them simply sped
[39:29] through.
[39:31] Now I imagine that these things
[39:33] happen all over town, and we
[39:34] certainly need deputies and
[39:36] hopefully more to enforce the
[39:40] laws we need speed cameras, so.
[39:42] Yeah, well, I, I, I, if I do it
[39:45] for you, I have to do it.
[39:47] Peter, Peter, I gotta cut you
[39:48] off. I
[39:49] m sorry. Yeah, we, we
[39:50] get the message and.
[39:58] We understand.
[40:00] Good evening. Uh, my name is
[40:01] Johnny Durbin. I
[40:02] m an Encinitas
[40:03] resident.
[40:03] I
[40:05] d like to talk to you today
[40:07] about Vision Zero.
[40:09] From coast to coast, more than
[40:11] 100 towns and cities have
[40:13] embraced Vision Zero or aspects
[40:13] of it.
[40:16] Places like Columbus, Ohio and
[40:18] Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where
[40:19] traffic injuries have dropped
[40:20] sharply.
[40:22] We see it in mid-size towns
[40:24] like our neighbors in Vista.
[40:26] To guard Oregon.
[40:28] And Hoboken, New Jersey, which
[40:28] we
[40:31] ve already heard about.
[40:33] With 9 consecutive years
[40:34] without a single traffic
[40:36] fatality.
[40:38] For masses of massive hubs like
[40:40] New York, Los Angeles, and
[40:42] Austin to suburban communities
[40:43] like Deerfield, Florida.
[40:45] In Oak Park, Illinois.
[40:47] This is an incredibly diverse
[40:49] list of cities with the same
[40:50] commitment.
[40:51] Safe streets are not a
[40:53] political issue, but a shared
[40:55] American priority.
[40:56] Leaders in communities across
[40:58] the United States are treating
[41:00] road design as a core principle
[41:03] of their duty to ensure public
[41:04] safety.
[41:05] Vision Zero operates on the
[41:07] core principle that human
[41:09] nature or humans naturally make
[41:10] mistakes.
[41:12] And to account for this
[41:13] physical to account for these
[41:15] mistakes, physical road
[41:17] environment should be designed
[41:19] to absorb these mistakes
[41:21] without them resulting in death
[41:23] or severe injury.
[41:25] Vision Zero does this by
[41:27] leveraging physics, engineering,
[41:30] and common sense.
[41:31] It prioritizes roundabouts,
[41:33] fixing crosswalks, and
[41:34] utilizing smart technology to
[41:36] manage speed and red light
[41:37] running.
[41:39] Towns across our country are
[41:40] making meaning meaningful
[41:43] changes to reduce and possibly
[41:44] eliminate traffic deaths and
[41:46] Encinitas scan too.
[41:48] The future of American
[41:49] infrastructure is one that
[41:51] stops treating traffic deaths
[41:52] as inevitable and starts
[41:54] treating them as preventable.
[41:56] Protecting our neighborhoods is
[41:57] our collective responsibility.
[41:58] Thank you.
[42:04] Thank you.
[42:05] John Eldon and following John
[42:07] Eldon will be Ron Maddak.
[42:09] And then Mike Doranski.
[42:11] Hi, uh, John Eldon, just real
[42:13] quick, I want to give credit
[42:15] where credit is due. We
[42:17] ve had
[42:18] some resurfacing incis
[42:20] Boulevard, uh, Lucadia
[42:22] Boulevard and re-striping along
[42:25] with opportunistic and the
[42:25] results.
[42:26] Are
[42:27] near perfect.
[42:28] So that
[42:29] s been excellent as far
[42:30] as Vision Zero, it sounds like
[42:30] we
[42:31] re already doing a lot of
[42:34] that, as was mentioned earlier,
[42:34] so I think that
[42:35] s great. Uh,
[42:37] the other one I wanna mention,
[42:37] I think you
[42:40] ll hear it from Ron
[42:43] too, is that on Vulcan, for
[42:46] instance, the crosswalk at
[42:49] Orpheus is raised, and so we
[42:51] have a slow as well as then you
[42:53] also have the flashers and the
[42:55] rest of it, and yeah, that
[42:56] might be worth exploring. I
[42:57] know we have to balance.
[42:58] With what the fire department
[43:00] needs. I get that.
[43:03] Right, the first responders
[43:04] have legitimate arguments as
[43:06] far as traffic calming and road
[43:08] design, but if we can work with
[43:09] them, get them happy, and at
[43:11] the same time slow down traffic
[43:12] in general. I think we
[43:13] re way
[43:14] ahead.
[43:17] And then finally there are
[43:17] places I
[43:19] m not 100% against
[43:20] Ballards because, for instance,
[43:23] at both ends of Sunset Drive,
[43:23] we
[43:25] ve squared the intersections
[43:27] which are otherwise diverges
[43:28] and merges, and I think that
[43:28] s
[43:30] been helpful on calming traffic
[43:32] of those two. So anyway, thanks
[43:47] a lot and keep up good work.
[43:51] Um, Ron Matdoch Leenheim, um, I
[43:52] wanna begin by thanking, uh, MR.
[43:54] Nutter for a very good
[43:56] presentation detailing
[43:56] everything the city
[43:57] s been
[43:57] working on.
[43:58] And although a lot has been
[44:00] done, I think there is much
[44:02] that needs to be done to
[44:03] improve traffic safety in
[44:04] Encinitas.
[44:06] Um, for many reasons, among
[44:08] them the force build out
[44:09] throughout San Diego County.
[44:10] It
[44:11] s definitely an increase in
[44:13] traffic throughout town and
[44:14] with it an increase in
[44:15] irresponsible driving.
[44:17] There are a number of roads
[44:19] that lend themselves to this
[44:21] dangerous behavior, and among
[44:22] them is El Camino del Norte.
[44:24] And I know it well. I bicycle
[44:25] it every week and I still
[44:26] didn
[44:27] t realize it was a speed
[44:28] corridor.
[44:31] A few days after the crash, the
[44:31] Tuch Fin Faddock
[44:32] s life, my son
[44:34] and I went to the trail
[44:35] crossing and tape measured with
[44:36] a 50 ft tape measure what
[44:38] appears to be the physical
[44:40] evidence.
[44:43] And um,
[44:45] We did not have, um, thank you
[44:47] for that, uh, admittedly we did
[44:48] not have access to the vehicle
[44:50] in order to be able to verify
[44:53] that the fresh black skid marks
[44:55] came from the Nissan z and we
[44:55] didn
[44:57] t have the electronic data
[44:59] recorder, the sheriff
[45:00] s
[45:01] investigation committee team
[45:02] does.
[45:04] And um if one just looks at the
[45:08] skid marks alone, 71 ft. It
[45:08] s
[45:10] clear this was the conditions
[45:12] that this driver saw as he went
[45:14] up the road 100 yards from that
[45:15] crossing.
[45:17] Very clear that he was well in
[45:19] excess of what was a safe speed,
[45:20] which was less, I
[45:21] m sure, than
[45:22] the 35 miles an hour that was
[45:24] posted.
[45:25] Unfortunately, there
[45:26] s a subset
[45:28] of drivers that are
[45:30] incorrigible and dangerous to
[45:32] all of us, and we can
[45:33] t stop
[45:34] them alone by trying to stop
[45:36] their behavior. We need to
[45:38] actually physically slow those
[45:40] vehicles, and I think the
[45:42] committee should be formed to
[45:43] use traffic devices that slow
[45:45] vehicles on the roads that are
[45:48] found to be the prime roads and
[45:49] begin with us, we can look at
[45:51] the whole city, but we can run
[45:53] the most dangerous the devices
[45:55] used to be such as.
[45:56] Speed cushions raised
[45:57] crosswalks, raised
[45:58] intersections, speed tables,
[46:00] rumble strips, roundabouts, as
[46:02] well as all other manner of
[46:03] devices. We have people here
[46:04] that are perfectly capable of
[46:05] doing that, and I suggest to
[46:07] the committee in my public
[46:07] comment, and I
[46:08] m gonna include
[46:10] a close first responders, that
[46:12] would be Chief Gordon and the
[46:14] Captain Watts.
[46:16] Um,
[46:17] The second thing is
[46:19] unfortunately we have some
[46:20] infrastructure that
[46:21] s been put
[46:22] in place, which is also
[46:23] dangerous. It
[46:24] s cost 2 lives of
[46:26] cyclists unnecessarily, uh,
[46:27] which is a scandal. It
[46:28] s also
[46:30] caused multiple injuries, um,
[46:31] especially on the South Beach
[46:34] area, uh, we have a committee
[46:37] now formed on the mtsc with
[46:38] John Eldon and myself and we
[46:39] re
[46:40] looking forward to cooperation
[46:41] and support from the city
[46:44] council, uh, in a subcommittee
[46:45] to evaluate, uh, with the
[46:47] purpose of removing.
[46:48] Dangerous and unnecessary bull.
[46:49] Thank you.
[47:00] Thank you.
[47:03] Right, thanks for that, um.
[47:03] I
[47:04] d like to start by thanking
[47:06] the council for hosting this.
[47:06] It
[47:08] s great to see the, um, the
[47:09] turnout. Clearly a lot of
[47:10] people are caring about street
[47:11] safety, which is awesome.
[47:14] Um, and to put it on a special
[47:15] meeting. I appreciate it. You
[47:15] guys spent a lot of time
[47:17] working and coming and staying
[47:19] up late and um I appreciate it.
[47:20] Also, thank you for the staff
[47:21] for the report and all the hard
[47:24] work. I think we can all agree
[47:25] that um staff has been
[47:27] fantastic.
[47:29] And it requires us to hold some
[47:30] of this nuance in our minds as
[47:32] we think through the current
[47:33] situation because we can have
[47:35] an amazing staff, a strong
[47:36] council, a wonderful sheriff,
[47:38] be working on a really
[47:39] important projects, spending
[47:40] tons of money doing it. It
[47:40] s
[47:41] still not getting the result
[47:43] that we want.
[47:43] We
[47:45] ve had 17 fatalities since
[47:47] 2016 for pedestrians and
[47:48] cyclists.
[47:48] That
[47:49] s a lot.
[47:49] So it
[47:50] s gonna take some
[47:52] leadership to admit that even
[47:52] though we
[47:53] re working hard, that
[47:53] there
[47:54] s a gap between where we
[47:56] are now and where we want to be.
[47:57] And we need to figure out how
[47:59] to bridge that gap.
[48:01] Our community Safe Streets
[48:02] Enitas came together after
[48:03] Emery
[48:04] s death last year. It
[48:05] really hit Parkdale Lane hard.
[48:07] We watched John and Bridget go
[48:08] through what they
[48:08] ve had to go
[48:09] through, and we
[48:10] ve just seen so
[48:12] much pain across the community.
[48:14] Our advocacy has always been
[48:16] about
[48:17] Stopping fatalities on the
[48:18] streets, and it continues to be.
[48:20] The Hoboken cases study is
[48:22] actually just about process.
[48:22] It
[48:24] s not about what they did.
[48:25] This goes into the 5th e
[48:26] evaluation, I guess is gonna be
[48:28] my request.
[48:30] How do we draw a direct line
[48:32] from the risks that are causing
[48:34] the fatalities to the projects
[48:34] that we
[48:35] re spending money on
[48:35] and make sure that we
[48:36] re
[48:37] getting the results that we
[48:37] need. We
[48:38] ve already had
[48:39] multiple people come up here
[48:40] and talk about what happened on
[48:42] El Camino del Norte.
[48:44] The community needs a place
[48:46] after fatality to show up and
[48:46] speak about what they
[48:47] re
[48:47] feeling, what they
[48:48] ve seen,
[48:50] share ideas, and we need to
[48:52] address it. There
[48:52] s been 6
[48:54] fatalities since Brodie got,
[48:55] got hit.
[48:55] She
[49:00] s just been 3 years.
[49:00] I haven
[49:02] t seen a single one of
[49:03] those locations reviewed
[49:07] publicly.
[49:08] We might be doing some of this
[49:09] already and that
[49:10] s the request
[49:11] for more transparency around
[49:12] the 5th e. If we
[49:12] re doing some
[49:13] of this, let
[49:13] s please make it
[49:14] public. I think there
[49:15] s a home
[49:17] for it at mtsfc maybe somewhere
[49:17] else.
[49:19] Um
[49:19] I don
[49:20] t care if we call it
[49:21] Vision Zero.
[49:22] I don
[49:23] t care if we take
[49:25] inspiration from Hoboken.
[49:25] Or we just don
[49:26] t want to see
[49:27] any more kids get run over and
[49:30] crosswalks.
[49:32] So the request is that we have
[49:35] some kind of fatality review.
[49:37] Let the community come together.
[49:37] Let
[49:39] s get our crack stuff
[49:40] working on it. I think we can
[50:00] do this, you guys. Thank you.
[50:02] Next 3 speakers Laura Russell,
[50:03] followed by Travis Newhouse,
[50:10] and then Chris Giles.
[50:10] Hi, I
[50:11] m Laura Russell, and I
[50:14] want to thank the previous
[50:16] speakers, uh, especially Ron
[50:17] Medd, um, whos always been a,
[50:19] if you could address us.
[50:21] Yeah, thank you, helps.
[50:24] That way we can hear you but
[50:26] that was a somewhat heroic
[50:28] testimony, and I want to thank
[50:30] him for it. Um, I
[50:30] m Laura
[50:32] Russell. I live at the
[50:34] intersection of Windmill Ranch
[50:36] Road and El Camino del Norte.
[50:40] And I think it bears repeating
[50:40] what we
[50:42] re actually talking
[50:45] about today and that is
[50:47] pedestrian fatalities. 6 weeks
[50:48] ago, on JULY 10th.
[50:51] I was sitting in my family room.
[50:53] And with apologies to any
[50:54] family or friends of the
[50:56] deceased who MAY be here. I
[50:59] heard a thud.
[51:03] I heard a screech of tires.
[51:06] I heard voices yelling.
[51:08] By the time I got my shoes on
[51:10] and myself down to right where
[51:13] the accident took place, a 17
[51:14] year old girl had been
[51:18] pronounced dead in one of the
[51:21] enhanced crosswalks that people
[51:22] in our area take as maybe as a
[51:24] suggestion. They never stopped
[51:25] there.
[51:27] So,
[51:31] I think one of my main concerns
[51:34] is despite some.
[51:36] Modest tributes that friends
[51:37] and family have left for that
[51:40] teenage girl at the site of the
[51:43] accident, there is no other
[51:45] acknowledgement that that
[51:47] teenage girl died there.
[51:50] Drivers can drive by with no
[51:52] knowledge that someone just
[51:54] died there.
[51:57] So my request is that.
[51:59] To dovetail on the previous
[52:02] speaker, we need more public
[52:03] acknowledgement of these
[52:06] fatalities. Someone lost their
[52:08] beautiful teenage daughter. And
[52:12] I think the drivers who are
[52:15] using our corridor to um
[52:16] commute from Escondido to the
[52:18] coast and back every day at
[52:20] high speeds. I need to borrow
[52:21] Bruce
[52:23] s speed gun if I can. I
[52:24] think the
[52:26] Speed limit there is 35. It
[52:27] s
[52:30] people are going 40, 50, 60. I
[52:31] stopped at the sheriff
[52:31] s office
[52:33] just before the meeting tonight.
[52:33] They
[52:34] re always so nice and
[52:35] helpful, but they wanted to
[52:37] know, well, when do you want us
[52:39] to conduct a speed trap there
[52:39] because that
[52:40] s one of my
[52:44] solutions. And I said, uh,
[52:46] practically 24/7, uh, we hear
[52:46] as we
[52:48] re sleeping at night, we
[52:49] hear people racing during
[52:51] commute hours, people are
[52:51] racing.
[52:53] Um
[52:54] And frankly, I
[52:56] m not picky.
[52:56] I
[52:58] ll take stop signs. I
[52:59] ll take
[53:00] speed bumps, whatever you
[53:00] re
[53:04] willing to give us. We need
[53:06] physical impediments to
[53:08] speeders on that road, and I do
[53:09] thank you for all of your work
[53:21] on that issue.
[53:21] Hello, I
[53:23] m Travis Newhouse, uh,
[53:24] resident of District 2 and
[53:26] member of Ensigns Bike Walk. I
[53:27] just wanna start, uh, say thank
[53:28] you to City council and staff
[53:30] for the new bike rides at
[53:30] Swami
[53:31] s, uh, the upgrade from
[53:33] the old wave style rack has
[53:34] more capacity and much more
[53:35] room for bikes with surf racks.
[53:37] So thank you. Um, now on the
[53:39] topic of safe streets. Uh, I
[53:42] moved to Encinitas in 2011
[53:43] because I found a neighborhood
[53:44] where my kids could walk and
[53:46] bike to school.
[53:47] And back then, few bikes were
[53:49] on the road. Adults or kids.
[53:51] Parents that I knew at school
[53:51] told me they didn
[53:52] t feel safe
[53:53] letting their kids ride, and
[53:53] that
[53:54] s why I got involved with
[53:56] Encious Bike Walk.
[53:58] This morning, I rode past
[53:59] Oceannolano Crest on the way to
[54:01] the barber. I saw dozens of
[54:02] families on cargo bikes, kids
[54:03] riding their own bikes, and
[54:05] even more students walking.
[54:06] When my own kids were young, I
[54:08] only saw those numbers when we
[54:09] organized a bike and walk to
[54:11] school day. I was very happy to
[54:12] see the improvement.
[54:14] And that tells you something.
[54:15] Demand for safe streets isn
[54:16] t
[54:17] hypothetical. It
[54:18] s already here
[54:18] every morning.
[54:19] And I appreciate what I
[54:20] ve seen
[54:22] in the city do in the 15 years
[54:22] that I
[54:22] ve lived here, but I
[54:24] think we can do more.
[54:26] When I hear people talking
[54:27] about e-bikes as a problem, I
[54:28] cringe.
[54:31] I see it as an opportunity.
[54:32] Every person on a bike or
[54:34] e-bike is one less car on our
[54:35] streets.
[54:38] We should be encouraging that
[54:39] transportation choice by
[54:40] providing safe streets that
[54:42] give people of all ages the
[54:43] freedom to get around.
[54:45] While cutting traffic for
[54:47] everyone.
[54:48] Council members o
[54:48] Hara and
[54:49] Schaeffer, uh, you have talked
[54:51] about routing bikes and
[54:52] pedestrians onto calmer, safer
[54:54] streets. I love that idea. And
[54:55] I
[54:58] m asking the city to build a
[54:59] comprehensive calm street
[55:00] network connecting our
[55:01] neighborhoods to the places we
[55:02] want to go.
[55:04] So that we can get there safely.
[55:05] Lowering the speed limits is a
[55:06] good first step that we
[55:07] ve
[55:09] tried, but I still see drivers
[55:10] speeding on streets in my
[55:11] neighborhood like Gardena,
[55:13] Melba, and Nardo Road.
[55:15] Signs alone are not enough.
[55:17] We need physical infrastructure.
[55:19] We need streets to be built to
[55:20] keep speeds low.
[55:22] There are great examples in
[55:23] Cardiff on Rubenstein Avenue
[55:25] and Summit Avenue, where they
[55:26] have chicanes that slow down
[55:27] the speed of cars.
[55:29] More of that is necessary in
[55:31] Encinitas.
[55:32] Safer streets are an
[55:34] opportunity.
[55:35] To give people transportation
[55:36] choices.
[55:38] Prevent deaths and injuries.
[55:39] And to make every neighborhood
[55:53] in Encinitas better. Thank you.
[55:54] Hello, my name
[55:55] s Chris Giles,
[55:57] uh, district 2 and a member of
[55:59] Encinitas Bike Walk. Uh, I want
[56:00] to start off thanking all of
[56:02] you and city staff for all the
[56:02] work that
[56:03] s been done because
[56:04] there has been a lot of stuff
[56:05] done.
[56:07] Um, during the oral
[56:09] communications at the last
[56:10] mobility traffic Safety
[56:11] commission meeting, a woman who
[56:12] lives in the neighborhood west
[56:15] of the 5 near Roquesa expressed
[56:17] her concern that increased
[56:18] traffic on Encs Boulevard was
[56:20] leading to more, more motorists
[56:21] using Riqueza and surrounding
[56:23] neighborhood streets as a cut
[56:25] through to cross the freeway.
[56:26] She
[56:27] s visibly frustrated by the
[56:28] number of motorists and how
[56:28] fast they
[56:29] re driving. These
[56:31] neighborhoods are where people
[56:33] live. Children play, and people
[56:34] walk their dogs, and these are
[56:36] quiet city streets that
[56:39] should not be used, uh, as
[56:40] expressways for motorists
[56:42] convenience. Riqueza is one of
[56:44] the two routes where people
[56:46] walking or biking can cross the
[56:47] freeway without conflicting
[56:48] with motorists entering or
[56:51] exiting the 5. It is a key
[56:53] route for kids riding their
[56:54] bikes between several schools
[56:56] downtown in the uh surrounding
[56:58] neighborhoods. Unfortunately I
[56:59] commonly see motorists driving
[57:02] 35 to 40 miles an hour across
[57:03] the narrow freeway bridge where
[57:06] kids share the lane. Crest.
[57:08] And Melva are uh primary
[57:10] connection for kids traveling
[57:12] between East Encinitas and
[57:13] schools, the park and the
[57:15] community center, yet both of
[57:17] these streets force kids on
[57:19] bikes to share the same road
[57:21] with motorists who often drive
[57:23] above the speed limit.
[57:24] This next part might sound like
[57:25] it was rehearsed because it
[57:26] s.
[57:28] Kind of the same thing that
[57:29] Travis just said, um, council
[57:32] member Schaeffer, you have on
[57:34] numerous occasions said that.
[57:37] A solution to our motorists,
[57:39] cyclist conflicts is for
[57:41] cyclists to avoid arterial
[57:43] streets and residential streets,
[57:44] honestly, I agree with you. I
[57:47] personally ride my bike and for
[57:49] utility and transportation all
[57:51] over Encinitas on a daily basis.
[57:53] I primarily ride on residential
[57:54] streets because it
[57:55] s safer,
[57:57] quieter and simply more
[57:59] enjoyable to ride, but when
[57:59] we
[58:01] re trying to encourage
[58:02] cyclists of all ages and
[58:04] abilities to ride on
[58:05] residential.
[58:05] Streets, it doesn
[58:07] t just mean
[58:08] pushing them onto side streets
[58:10] and then problem solved. Mixing
[58:12] a young child or an older
[58:14] cyclist riding at 12 miles an
[58:17] hour with an impatient motorist
[58:17] who
[58:18] s driving 30 miles an hour
[58:20] trying to get across town
[58:23] quickly means more conflict and
[58:25] more collisions for your idea
[58:26] to be successful, and I do
[58:28] believe that it can be. Those
[58:30] residential streets need to be
[58:32] designated as slow streets.
[58:33] This means 20 mile an hour
[58:35] speed limits.
[58:37] Actual infrastructure that
[58:38] physically slows motorist
[58:40] traffic, such as speed cushions,
[58:42] increased enforcement, and
[58:43] possibly speed cameras. Let
[58:43] s
[58:45] build a network of slow streets
[58:48] all over Encinitas that give
[58:50] riding bikes or walking, the
[58:52] freedom to move around town
[58:52] safely and let
[58:53] s start with the
[58:55] residential corridor from Crest
[58:56] to the east to the library in
[58:58] downtown to the west. Thank you.
[59:05] Next 3 speakers, Judy Burlfein,
[59:06] followed by Connie Leslie, and
[59:16] then Dennis Caden.
[59:16] Hi, I
[59:18] m Judy Burlfin, and I
[59:18] m
[59:19] also a member of Antonina
[59:20] s
[59:21] Bike Walk.
[59:23] So thank you to the staff for
[59:25] putting together a great
[59:26] presentation, which I
[59:27] m
[59:29] guessing was maybe unfairly
[59:31] short notice.
[59:32] The two previous speakers
[59:34] discussed a neighborhood
[59:35] network, something that we can
[59:37] all agree on.
[59:39] But we must recognize that no
[59:42] matter how great that
[59:43] neighborhood network is one
[59:46] must cross a major street to
[59:48] get anywhere in this city.
[59:48] I can
[59:51] t go to Paullecky school
[59:52] without crossing Encinitas
[59:53] Boulevard and Vulcan.
[59:54] Unless I
[59:55] m willing to go way
[59:56] out of my way.
[59:56] I can
[59:58] t go to my weight
[59:59] trainer
[1:00:00] s house in Spyglass
[1:00:03] without crossing El Camino Real.
[1:00:05] And when I was at Fox Pointe
[1:00:05] Farms and I
[1:00:06] d driven there and
[1:00:08] drove parked on the other side
[1:00:10] of Lucadia Boulevard.
[1:00:12] There were 3 cars ready to hit
[1:00:14] me as I crossed Lucadia
[1:00:16] Boulevard as they turn right or
[1:00:18] turned left.
[1:00:19] So intersections are major
[1:00:20] hazards. They
[1:00:21] re one of the
[1:00:22] four focus areas of the Safe
[1:00:23] Streets group. They
[1:00:24] re high on
[1:00:26] the list of the comprehensive
[1:00:28] safety action plan, and they
[1:00:30] are high on the list of
[1:00:32] Encinitas bike Walk, so how can
[1:00:33] we improve the safety of our
[1:00:35] intersections.
[1:00:37] Many of the measures we have
[1:00:38] installed around the city can
[1:00:39] help.
[1:00:43] Refuge islands, bulb outs, LPIs,
[1:00:44] pedestrian scrambles, speed
[1:00:47] radar signs, bicycle signals,
[1:00:49] and quick build roundabouts.
[1:00:51] But before we take any action,
[1:00:54] we need a method of evaluating
[1:00:55] the measures we
[1:00:56] ve installed,
[1:00:57] and I learned today about some
[1:00:58] of the evaluations you
[1:00:59] ve done
[1:00:59] already. I
[1:01:00] d love to know if
[1:01:01] there are more that we don
[1:01:01] t
[1:01:03] know about.
[1:01:04] The real question is how do
[1:01:06] speeds go down if we post lower
[1:01:09] speed limits, so you said 2.2
[1:01:11] miles. I think if we change
[1:01:12] street design, we can bring
[1:01:14] them down to what we
[1:01:14] re
[1:01:16] actually posting.
[1:01:20] Do people stop at RRFBs and
[1:01:22] what are the actual speeds on
[1:01:25] roads with RFBs, not just the
[1:01:29] posted speeds.
[1:01:31] Do LPIs provide enough
[1:01:33] protection, or do we need
[1:01:35] pedestrian scrambles or no
[1:01:37] turns when the walk button is
[1:01:39] activated because the 3 seconds
[1:01:41] that I get with the lpi gets me
[1:01:42] right in the middle of the
[1:01:43] intersection where they can hit
[1:01:46] me from all directions.
[1:01:48] Do flashing yellow light
[1:01:50] signals help or only confuse
[1:01:51] drivers.
[1:01:51] There
[1:01:53] s a lot of work to be
[1:01:55] done. We have a plan with the
[1:01:57] csap. We have the modal
[1:01:59] alternatives project. I hope we
[1:02:02] can be a little more methodical
[1:02:04] and less arbitrary in our
[1:02:06] approach. And lastly, I request
[1:02:08] the next traffic engineer that
[1:02:10] we hire, have it be someone who.
[1:02:12] Knows about active
[1:02:14] transportation and rides a bike.
[1:02:25] Thank you.
[1:02:25] I
[1:02:28] m Connie Leslie and I live at
[1:02:30] 1892 Forestdale Drive, and I
[1:02:31] m
[1:02:32] here in reference to the
[1:02:35] speeding cars on South Willow
[1:02:38] Spring Road from Cyril Avenue
[1:02:40] down to Encinitas Boulevard. I
[1:02:42] do want to commend the
[1:02:42] sheriff
[1:02:44] s office. They did an
[1:02:46] enormous effort to track
[1:02:48] speeding cars last spring, and
[1:02:49] there were a lot of people who
[1:02:51] were very unhappy about the
[1:02:53] tickets that they received. I
[1:02:55] even have a sticker on my
[1:02:57] Be on my speed dial that tells
[1:02:58] me reminds me to drop down to
[1:03:00] 20 miles an hour, but people
[1:03:01] forget.
[1:03:04] And, um,
[1:03:06] And I did speak with two of the
[1:03:08] officers who were on the corner
[1:03:10] of Orwell Avenue and Willow
[1:03:11] Spring where they had set up
[1:03:13] their stops, and I asked them,
[1:03:16] why were they set up on Orwell,
[1:03:19] because that was a flat surface
[1:03:20] and cars coming in could
[1:03:22] actually see the police
[1:03:23] officers on the corner of the
[1:03:24] road, and I said, the real
[1:03:27] problem is over on Fairleigh
[1:03:30] Avenue and down on Valleydale
[1:03:32] Drive, where the road curves
[1:03:34] and cars are speeding up, and
[1:03:34] cars are.
[1:03:36] Speeding going down, and the
[1:03:38] officer said it was too
[1:03:40] dangerous to set up a stop
[1:03:43] there, so I think that speaks
[1:03:45] for itself, um, so I
[1:03:46] m here,
[1:03:48] and, and I know the problem is
[1:03:50] just going to get a lot worse
[1:03:52] once the Goodson project goes
[1:03:54] online, so, and that MAY be as
[1:03:56] many as 300 more cars. So, uh,
[1:04:00] I would like to see, and I know
[1:04:01] that the emergency department
[1:04:04] does not want speed tables or
[1:04:05] speed bumps.
[1:04:05] Uh,
[1:04:10] They make over 200.
[1:04:11] Uh drive-throughs every year
[1:04:13] through that road, uh, many of
[1:04:15] them come to my community
[1:04:15] because we
[1:04:16] re an elderly
[1:04:16] community, so I don
[1:04:17] t want them
[1:04:20] to stop coming, but um, there
[1:04:22] are other ways to deal with
[1:04:24] this, and I would even consider
[1:04:27] stop signs at Forestdale and at
[1:04:28] Valleydale, I
[1:04:30] d consider, uh,
[1:04:31] speed tables, just anything
[1:04:33] temporary for a while, and then
[1:04:34] there
[1:04:35] s just not enough signage,
[1:04:36] they, there
[1:04:37] s a sign saying 20
[1:04:39] miles an hour when you
[1:04:40] Turn on from Encinitas
[1:04:42] Boulevard. And then there
[1:04:42] s
[1:04:44] another sign very close to 0,
[1:04:46] but once you see that sign, you
[1:04:47] forget, or maybe you don
[1:04:47] t even
[1:04:49] see it, and they just plow
[1:04:51] right through, so, uh, I would
[1:04:54] also like to see something with
[1:04:57] a very large 20 mile an hour
[1:04:59] painted on the hillside, coming
[1:05:00] up that hill and going down
[1:05:02] that hill, so people understand
[1:05:10] that. So, thank you.
[1:05:12] Good evening.
[1:05:14] City council members. My name
[1:05:15] is Dennis Caden in District one.
[1:05:19] I want to, uh, take the time to
[1:05:21] praise Encinitas here. I did
[1:05:23] some comparisons on Hoboken, uh,
[1:05:24] we already heard it
[1:05:26] s a 1.3
[1:05:27] square miles we
[1:05:28] re 19.9 square
[1:05:30] miles. Uh, Hoboken is called
[1:05:34] the mile square City, um, they
[1:05:37] have 28,000 units housing units
[1:05:40] we have basically 24,000 of the
[1:05:43] 28,000. I found it interesting
[1:05:44] they have less than 4.
[1:05:46] 400 single family.
[1:05:49] Detached homes, so we have.
[1:05:51] Just the opposite and we got
[1:05:53] lots of neighborhoods with
[1:05:54] people driving through and
[1:05:55] stuff and that
[1:05:56] s what makes it
[1:05:59] such a special place, um, the
[1:06:01] population per square mile is
[1:06:03] 45,000.
[1:06:03] It
[1:06:04] s the dense, it
[1:06:05] s the most
[1:06:07] densely, it
[1:06:09] s the 4 densely
[1:06:14] populated city in America where
[1:06:17] 3100 square miles, uh, persons
[1:06:20] per household 2.02 versus r
[1:06:23] 2.54 and I noticed they have
[1:06:26] persons over 65, we have almost
[1:06:28] 20% of our population loves
[1:06:29] living here so much that they
[1:06:29] don
[1:06:32] t need to get out of a big
[1:06:34] city and the number of streets.
[1:06:39] Streets is 48 versus our 956.
[1:06:39] That
[1:06:40] s a lot of streets to try
[1:06:42] to prevent, um, accidents and
[1:06:44] things and I do believe most of
[1:06:45] the accidents that we
[1:06:45] ve had
[1:06:47] right now is egregious as they
[1:06:49] are, they were driver neglect
[1:06:51] and, and that makes it even
[1:06:54] worse.
[1:06:54] We
[1:06:56] re doing plenty like Vision
[1:06:57] Zero here and I
[1:06:58] m proud of what
[1:06:59] the council has done. We have
[1:07:01] something in Encinitas Hoboken
[1:07:03] will never have.
[1:07:05] On our circulation element and
[1:07:06] John Eldon and I worked on it
[1:07:08] when we first incorporated. We
[1:07:10] have trails.
[1:07:11] We have trails that have never
[1:07:13] been prioritized on our
[1:07:15] circulation element every time
[1:07:17] we have a high density housing
[1:07:18] element that there
[1:07:18] s a trail to
[1:07:19] go through. The trail gets
[1:07:20] ignored.
[1:07:21] And I think it
[1:07:23] s time maybe we
[1:07:25] could utilize the trails to get
[1:07:28] bicycles off the main arterials
[1:07:28] because they
[1:07:29] re all gonna go to
[1:07:30] the same place. Everybody wants
[1:07:33] to get to the beach, so could
[1:07:35] we please look into that.
[1:07:37] Thank you very much. I love our
[1:07:38] trails. I love our city. Thank
[1:07:43] you.
[1:07:46] Next 3 speakers, Karen Kan,
[1:07:47] followed by Fabian Gannell, and
[1:08:03] then Laura Grimmer.
[1:08:03] Hi, I
[1:08:04] m Karen Caden. I
[1:08:04] m in
[1:08:06] district one.
[1:08:06] I
[1:08:11] m the better half of Dennis I
[1:08:13] wanna thank you guys for the
[1:08:14] paving Lucchetti Boulevard. I
[1:08:14] m
[1:08:17] on there at least 6 times a day.
[1:08:21] I also, um, and help improve
[1:08:23] the uh Encinitas safe walk to
[1:08:27] Capri for um.
[1:08:29] From uh uh Urania uh and
[1:08:31] throughout Carter Street, an
[1:08:32] area to protect our children
[1:08:34] from windy roads, and it has
[1:08:35] been working.
[1:08:36] And I know you guys are gonna
[1:08:38] be working on that too in your
[1:08:40] program. I wanna thank you,
[1:08:41] council for time, having a
[1:08:43] special meeting today.
[1:08:45] I also thank the sheriff
[1:08:45] s
[1:08:46] department. I was thinking
[1:08:49] about what other people were
[1:08:51] saying regards to um problems
[1:08:52] in their neighborhood and other
[1:08:53] places they
[1:08:54] ve seen.
[1:08:56] I think, you know, more
[1:08:58] notification of traffic risk,
[1:08:59] you know, to the sheriff
[1:08:59] s
[1:09:01] department or maybe they can
[1:09:03] have another department to uh
[1:09:04] pick up what problems are in
[1:09:06] the city of Encinitas that can
[1:09:08] refer to the tra the uh
[1:09:10] sheriffs. I wanna share. I was
[1:09:13] standing at a stop sign near
[1:09:15] Capri School and a lot of
[1:09:16] people going through the step
[1:09:17] sign, and then one day a
[1:09:19] sheriff showed up and stood
[1:09:21] next to me, and every time they
[1:09:23] saw the sheriff, they slammed
[1:09:24] on.
[1:09:26] The brakes, so I was thinking
[1:09:29] about maybe having a cardboard
[1:09:32] sheriff and staying there with
[1:09:34] it. Ok, so, um.
[1:09:37] As, as a community we should
[1:09:39] show support.
[1:09:41] Our council and city staff on
[1:09:45] safe choices. I res I totally
[1:09:46] respect the city
[1:09:48] s framework of
[1:09:49] the five e
[1:09:52] s engineering, my My
[1:09:53] favorite is education,
[1:09:56] enforcement.
[1:09:58] Engagement and evaluation
[1:09:59] informed the sheriffs were, you
[1:10:01] know, better results. I wanna
[1:10:03] thanks for adding safer
[1:10:04] improvements for our school
[1:10:07] zones, more crossing guards,
[1:10:10] safe rail crossings, improved
[1:10:12] visibility for pedestrian
[1:10:14] crossing and lowering speed
[1:10:16] limits near schools. I want to
[1:10:17] thank you so kindly for all
[1:10:27] your work.
[1:10:29] Last year at this time, Council
[1:10:30] member Lyons proposed a
[1:10:32] resolution.
[1:10:33] The operative part was so
[1:10:34] simple.
[1:10:36] That I can read it out.
[1:10:38] Quote, and it was a resolved
[1:10:40] that the city of Encinitas
[1:10:42] acknowledges long-standing
[1:10:43] community support for traffic
[1:10:45] calming, ratifies continued
[1:10:46] city support for traffic
[1:10:48] calming in Encinitas and will
[1:10:49] continue to strive to improve
[1:10:51] and support traffic calming and
[1:10:53] traffic calming policies in
[1:10:54] Encinitas.
[1:10:55] She moved to approve.
[1:10:56] And it didn
[1:10:57] t even get a vote.
[1:10:59] Not one of the rest of you
[1:11:01] would second the motion.
[1:11:04] One of you was just vehemently
[1:11:06] opposed. You chose to interpret
[1:11:07] this general pro-calming
[1:11:09] language as an attack on one or
[1:11:11] more of your pet projects. One
[1:11:12] of you tried to have it both
[1:11:13] ways. You said you wouldn
[1:11:14] t
[1:11:14] oppose the motion. You didn
[1:11:15] t
[1:11:16] support it either.
[1:11:17] One of you had nothing to say
[1:11:20] on the issue at all. Pretty
[1:11:21] remarkable considering a child
[1:11:22] had just died.
[1:11:24] One of you at least engaged
[1:11:27] constructively with the problem.
[1:11:28] Council member Schaeffer
[1:11:30] proposed a citywide traffic
[1:11:32] study to identify specific
[1:11:33] problems.
[1:11:35] He tried to move agendaizing it
[1:11:37] for a future meeting. The chair
[1:11:39] asked that he hold the motion,
[1:11:40] but then the council never got
[1:11:42] back to it after the original
[1:11:44] motion failed.
[1:11:47] I looked for any other mention
[1:11:48] of COUNCILMAN Schaeffer
[1:11:49] s ideas
[1:11:51] at Futures meeting, and I found
[1:11:53] a statement a few weeks later
[1:11:55] that he was discussing it with
[1:11:57] staff, but nothing else. No
[1:11:59] such study is listed in
[1:11:59] tonight
[1:12:01] s staff report.
[1:12:03] Everyone talks about safety,
[1:12:06] especially after a tragedy, but
[1:12:08] actions matter more than words.
[1:12:10] When you put safety projects
[1:12:12] with planned road diets on your
[1:12:13] list of accomplishments, but
[1:12:15] the record shows you took out
[1:12:16] the road diets when you
[1:12:17] approved them.
[1:12:18] Your actions don
[1:12:18] t match your
[1:12:19] words.
[1:12:20] When there
[1:12:21] s a good idea for a
[1:12:22] traffic study, but it can
[1:12:23] t
[1:12:25] even get agenda.
[1:12:26] Your actions don
[1:12:27] t match your
[1:12:29] words. And when you task the
[1:12:32] mtsc with reporting on ways to
[1:12:34] eliminate or minimize traffic
[1:12:36] deaths, unquote. And the mtsc
[1:12:38] year-end report includes no
[1:12:40] specific action under that work
[1:12:41] item, and then they take it out
[1:12:42] of the next year
[1:12:44] s.
[1:12:46] Work items. Your actions aren
[1:12:46] t
[1:12:48] matching your words.
[1:12:48] It
[1:12:51] s past time for real action
[1:12:53] to slow traffic and actually
[1:12:54] improve safety. We
[1:12:54] re spending
[1:12:57] $15 million a year or $15
[1:12:58] million over the past 3 years
[1:13:01] to repave roads. Great. Repaved
[1:13:03] roads do not actually slow
[1:13:04] traffic. If anything to the
[1:13:05] contrary.
[1:13:07] How about things that actually
[1:13:09] slow traffic and actually
[1:13:10] improve safety. I hope we hear
[1:13:11] something about that tonight.
[1:13:22] Thank you.
[1:13:24] Good evening, Mayor Ehler, City
[1:13:26] Council.
[1:13:27] My name is Laura Grimmer. I
[1:13:28] m a
[1:13:30] founding member of Safe Streets
[1:13:32] Encinitas, uh, first, a big
[1:13:33] thank you to the sheriff
[1:13:33] s
[1:13:35] department, your presence in
[1:13:37] our community is impactful and
[1:13:37] based on the data you
[1:13:38] ve shared,
[1:13:39] it appears that things are
[1:13:41] moving in the right direction.
[1:13:42] We recognize the enormous
[1:13:43] responsibility you
[1:13:44] re carrying
[1:13:45] right now.
[1:13:45] And we
[1:13:46] re encouraged that the
[1:13:48] council will be discussing red
[1:13:50] light cameras on SEPTEMBER 9th.
[1:13:52] Additional tools can provide
[1:13:53] much-needed support and
[1:13:55] importantly, help keep our
[1:13:56] deputies safer.
[1:13:58] In the meantime, thank you for
[1:14:00] continuing this difficult work.
[1:14:01] And another big thank you to
[1:14:03] staff. Your report was
[1:14:05] informative, and we appreciate
[1:14:06] the transparency in both the
[1:14:08] process and execution.
[1:14:11] We would love to ask to see
[1:14:13] more regularly more regular
[1:14:15] reports to continue to increase
[1:14:17] transparency and accountability.
[1:14:18] We hear what you
[1:14:18] re saying and
[1:14:19] we appreciate the progress that
[1:14:20] is being made.
[1:14:22] And we ask that you all hear us
[1:14:23] too.
[1:14:25] We know the city has projects
[1:14:26] underway, but we need to ask an
[1:14:28] important question.
[1:14:30] Are these projects addressing
[1:14:31] the places and conditions where
[1:14:34] fatalities are occurring.
[1:14:36] Repaving a road is important
[1:14:37] maintenance, but by itself is
[1:14:39] not a safety strategy.
[1:14:41] If we have an opportunity to
[1:14:43] improve safety as part of a
[1:14:45] project, we should take it.
[1:14:47] Every project that moves
[1:14:48] forward without a meaningful
[1:14:50] safety review.
[1:14:51] Maybe a missed opportunity to
[1:14:53] prevent the next serious crash
[1:14:55] or the next fatality.
[1:14:57] We all know the number of
[1:14:59] vehicles on our roads is
[1:15:01] continuing to grow rapidly.
[1:15:03] We need to get ahead of that
[1:15:04] growth. We need to identify
[1:15:05] risks.
[1:15:09] And act on them before another
[1:15:10] family experiences the
[1:15:13] unimaginable loss of a loved
[1:15:14] one.
[1:15:16] Or before another child is
[1:15:17] involved in a life changing
[1:15:20] crash.
[1:15:20] We
[1:15:22] ve heard calls to return
[1:15:24] teaching kids to stop, look and
[1:15:24] listen.
[1:15:26] Well,
[1:15:28] I ask you, let
[1:15:29] s stop blaming
[1:15:30] the kids. Let
[1:15:31] s look at the
[1:15:33] infrastructure, look at the
[1:15:34] intersections, look at the
[1:15:35] conditions that MAY be
[1:15:37] contributing to these crashes.
[1:15:38] And most importantly, and I
[1:15:40] thank you for tonight, Listen
[1:15:41] to the people who live here and
[1:15:45] use these roads every day.
[1:15:45] We don
[1:15:46] t have to agree on
[1:15:48] everything, but we do need to
[1:15:50] respect one another and work
[1:15:51] together to do what is right
[1:15:53] for our city.
[1:15:54] The solutions we develop need
[1:15:56] to be effective across all
[1:15:58] viewpoints. They need to be
[1:16:00] maintained across changes in
[1:16:01] city leadership, and ultimately
[1:16:03] needs to make, make our streets
[1:16:04] safer for everyone. Um, I
[1:16:05] m
[1:16:07] running out of time, so I will
[1:16:08] just say, um, as we
[1:16:08] ve heard,
[1:16:10] our kids are being struck and
[1:16:12] killed in crosswalks.
[1:16:13] This is ucceptable. We
[1:16:13] re
[1:16:15] asking, can the city
[1:16:16] temporarily shift some
[1:16:18] priorities and resources
[1:16:19] towards the areas where the
[1:16:21] greatest safety concerns exist.
[1:16:29] Thank you.
[1:16:31] Final Four speakers, Ellen Burr,
[1:16:33] followed by Dave Dean, then
[1:16:34] Sheila Cameron, and then
[1:16:50] Caitlin Despain.
[1:16:52] That was about the same
[1:16:53] distance as a crosswalk that I
[1:16:55] just walked down here.
[1:16:56] I don
[1:16:59] t use a cane yet or a
[1:17:01] walker yet, but that
[1:17:01] s pretty
[1:17:03] fast.
[1:17:06] And I just wanna make sure that
[1:17:09] we are double checking that.
[1:17:09] I don
[1:17:10] t know whether it
[1:17:11] s
[1:17:13] pedestrian leading intervals or
[1:17:15] leading pedestrian intervals
[1:17:17] should be easy to do to make
[1:17:22] sure that they are as long as
[1:17:23] possible because.
[1:17:26] People, 40% of our city
[1:17:28] probably is under the 5 or
[1:17:30] under or over the age of 60
[1:17:33] plus a number who are
[1:17:34] handicapped, not everybody
[1:17:35] rides a bike, Judy, I wish I
[1:17:37] could.
[1:17:40] Uh, so I think we need to focus
[1:17:42] more on pedestrians.
[1:17:44] And make sure that the
[1:17:47] crosswalks and the bike lanes
[1:17:49] are safe, so that means if it
[1:17:49] s
[1:17:51] gonna be paved next week, don
[1:17:51] t
[1:17:54] do it now, but there shouldn
[1:17:54] t
[1:17:58] be any cracks, any divots, any
[1:18:00] potholes, anything that a bike
[1:18:03] tire is gonna hit or an old
[1:18:06] person or a young person is
[1:18:08] gonna stumble over just we
[1:18:09] could do some really easy
[1:18:11] things I think that might make
[1:18:12] a difference.
[1:18:13] And I don
[1:18:13] t want to be
[1:18:15] crucified again for stop look
[1:18:18] and listen, but I do think we
[1:18:22] need to emphasize.
[1:18:24] Awareness on every level and uh
[1:18:27] i can write a check for.
[1:18:29] Something to be produced if you
[1:18:30] want me to.
[1:18:31] Um,
[1:18:32] Yeah, that
[1:18:33] s it thanks.
[1:18:41] Thank you.
[1:18:43] Council, Mayor, staff, good
[1:18:45] evening, Dave Dean. First, I
[1:18:45] d
[1:18:49] like to start off by thanking
[1:18:52] the staff last Wednesday when I
[1:18:53] spoke at City council about a
[1:18:56] dangerous sign on b and 3rd.
[1:18:56] By 9 o
[1:18:57] clock the next morning,
[1:18:59] it was removed in the crosswalk
[1:19:01] was safe, so thank you for
[1:19:02] listening. Thank you for
[1:19:04] responding.
[1:19:05] Next thing I
[1:19:06] d like to suggest
[1:19:09] is a safety sign, um, down on
[1:19:11] Coast Highway, similar to one
[1:19:14] they have in Del Mar, saying
[1:19:16] bicycle enforcement zone.
[1:19:17] In the last two days I
[1:19:18] ve
[1:19:20] watched over 10 bicyclists
[1:19:21] going down Coast Highway
[1:19:23] running red lights.
[1:19:25] Exceptionally dangerous. 2 days
[1:19:27] in a row, multiple red lights
[1:19:28] run.
[1:19:31] Final suggestion.
[1:19:31] Let
[1:19:34] s up our game and go with
[1:19:36] making Encinitas the safest
[1:19:39] city in America.
[1:19:41] Speed kills, lower the speed
[1:19:42] limit. I
[1:19:43] m in favor of a
[1:19:46] maximum speed limit of 25 miles
[1:19:48] an hour in the entire city.
[1:19:50] If it takes 10 minutes longer
[1:19:52] to get across the city and
[1:19:54] saves a life, who
[1:19:55] s 10 minutes
[1:19:56] is more important than saving a
[1:19:58] life.
[1:19:58] Let
[1:19:59] s make it safe. Let
[1:20:00] s lower
[1:20:13] the speed limits. Thank you.
[1:20:15] Good evening, Mayor and council,
[1:20:18] Sheila Cameron.
[1:20:20] A few years years ago, a
[1:20:22] national park at a national
[1:20:25] park, 3 young people died after
[1:20:26] having been swept over a
[1:20:28] waterfall.
[1:20:30] Although plenty of signs were
[1:20:31] already posted nearby. Don
[1:20:31] t go
[1:20:33] near the water, etc. They went
[1:20:35] in anyway.
[1:20:37] When the ranger was interviewed
[1:20:39] by a concerned citizens, his
[1:20:40] reply.
[1:20:41] One thing I
[1:20:42] ve learned after
[1:20:44] over 30 years here in the park
[1:20:47] is that you can
[1:20:48] t protect
[1:20:50] people from themselves.
[1:20:53] We can believe and demand.
[1:20:55] The other fixed things for us.
[1:20:57] The other in this case being
[1:20:59] our city government, however,
[1:21:01] maybe what we should be doing
[1:21:03] is standing in front of the
[1:21:04] mirror and asking ourselves
[1:21:06] some questions.
[1:21:08] Do we sometimes tend to drive
[1:21:10] too fast, drive 10 to 20 miles
[1:21:12] or more over the speed limit.
[1:21:14] Have you pulled out from a
[1:21:16] right-hand turn when we see
[1:21:18] cars coming, but pull out
[1:21:19] anyway.
[1:21:22] Do we approach a yellow traffic
[1:21:24] light and instead of slowing to
[1:21:27] a stop, gun the gas and push
[1:21:28] right through. Just saw that
[1:21:30] two days ago.
[1:21:34] Even when the light is red
[1:21:36] This city government cannot
[1:21:38] protect us from ourselves. It
[1:21:41] is not their responsibility. We
[1:21:43] are humans and individuals.
[1:21:43] We
[1:21:44] ve been given an abundance
[1:21:46] of rules and physical
[1:21:48] considerations to protect our
[1:21:49] health and safety and the
[1:21:51] safety of others when we
[1:21:51] re
[1:21:54] driving. What happens when we
[1:21:57] get into these 2000 or 3000
[1:22:00] pound automobiles are cocoons.
[1:22:01] Their killing machines, while
[1:22:04] in our cars, we have a sense of
[1:22:07] entitlement only for ourselves.
[1:22:09] Where and how did we learn to
[1:22:11] drive? Was something missing in
[1:22:14] our training, a moral compass
[1:22:16] perhaps. Do we pass on bad
[1:22:18] habits and indifference for
[1:22:20] safety and rules of the road to
[1:22:21] our children, so now we
[1:22:22] re our
[1:22:24] children. Our children are on
[1:22:26] motorbikes and e-bikes, a
[1:22:28] convenience for parents and
[1:22:31] other concern and fearful
[1:22:32] distraction from motorists
[1:22:34] children are young, too
[1:22:36] precious, too uninformed.
[1:22:39] Uh, are the stats for accidents,
[1:22:41] a generational phenomenon. They
[1:22:42] are.
[1:22:43] And I
[1:22:44] ve put here, I
[1:22:45] ve had 3
[1:22:47] accidents the last 6 years, not
[1:22:52] my fault, 1825, 26 year olds,
[1:22:53] and the last guy said to me,
[1:22:54] Well, I saw you coming, but I
[1:22:56] pulled out because I thought I
[1:22:57] had more time, so I
[1:22:58] m asking
[1:23:00] you time the culprit? Are we
[1:23:03] too much in a hurry, too
[1:23:04] stressed, running late, trying
[1:23:07] to do too much. If we think and
[1:23:10] slow down, can we save us from
[1:23:11] ourselves. That
[1:23:12] s a start.
[1:23:12] Thank you.
[1:23:22] Thank you.
[1:23:23] Good evening. Uh, my name is
[1:23:27] Caitlin De Spain. I am a local
[1:23:29] parent to an elementary and
[1:23:30] middle school student, and we
[1:23:32] bought a home here 12 years ago,
[1:23:33] strictly in the neighborhood
[1:23:35] that we knew we could walk our
[1:23:37] kids to, and I still enjoy
[1:23:38] doing that every day.
[1:23:40] Um,
[1:23:43] One of the things that concerns
[1:23:44] me and why I
[1:23:45] ve gotten the
[1:23:47] courage to speak here tonight
[1:23:47] is that I
[1:23:48] m really concerned
[1:23:49] about the speed of our drivers
[1:23:51] in the community throughout. I
[1:23:53] travel up and down El Camino
[1:23:55] Real, multiple times a day,
[1:23:57] driving my kids around to their
[1:23:58] activities. And if I
[1:23:59] m driving,
[1:24:01] the posted 30, 35 mile per hour
[1:24:04] speed limit. Cars are whizzing
[1:24:05] around me, frustrated at me
[1:24:06] that I
[1:24:07] m going so slow.
[1:24:09] So
[1:24:09] I don
[1:24:12] t think that
[1:24:16] Posting a lower speed limit.
[1:24:16] Will change drivers
[1:24:17] behavior.
[1:24:19] I think we need to hear more as
[1:24:21] a community, what the plans are
[1:24:22] to
[1:24:24] Do more than that.
[1:24:27] I do think that.
[1:24:31] We need to know more about how
[1:24:33] you are going to save our
[1:24:33] children
[1:24:34] s lives and make the
[1:24:37] city safe for them.
[1:24:39] And I need to know, how can we
[1:24:41] make not losing another life a
[1:24:42] top priority here.
[1:24:46] Thank you for your time.
[1:24:47] That concludes speakers on this
[1:24:49] item.
[1:24:50] ok, we
[1:24:52] ve got, uh, 30 minutes
[1:24:53] left, so I just keep that in
[1:24:54] mind. We got 5 of us to get in
[1:24:57] here and the discussion. I, I,
[1:24:59] uh, punched in first, um.
[1:25:00] I actually heard a lot of new
[1:25:02] ideas, good ideas, maybe not
[1:25:03] new ideas, but, uh, heard them
[1:25:04] again, I guess is the best way
[1:25:07] to put it, uh.
[1:25:09] Is there one thing I always
[1:25:10] like to ask the uh rhetorical
[1:25:12] question. Is there one thing we
[1:25:14] can do that can perfectly fix
[1:25:15] all the roads? No, it, it
[1:25:15] s
[1:25:17] doing a lot of things is what
[1:25:18] we have to do, and I think
[1:25:18] that
[1:25:21] s what we have been doing,
[1:25:23] um, do roadway modifications
[1:25:25] make roads perfectly safe.
[1:25:27] Unfortunately, no. It all comes
[1:25:28] back to driver behavior as a
[1:25:31] component here.
[1:25:32] Roadway construction is
[1:25:34] important or, or, uh, design is
[1:25:36] important, but we ultimately
[1:25:38] have to change all of our
[1:25:40] driver behaviors, ours, we all
[1:25:41] have to drive at the speed
[1:25:43] limit or under. I find myself
[1:25:45] driving 5 miles under now.
[1:25:45] And I
[1:25:46] m very conscious about it
[1:25:48] and I hope more people will do
[1:25:49] that and we actually have seen
[1:25:51] the data and I, I won
[1:25:51] t go
[1:25:53] recap that, so.
[1:25:56] Um, if you could bring up the
[1:25:57] slide about how much money
[1:25:57] we
[1:26:00] ve spent on
[1:26:03] On enforcement versus roadway.
[1:26:05] Because if you go look at some
[1:26:06] of the, the bikeway
[1:26:06] improvements we
[1:26:08] ve done $4
[1:26:09] million a mile, roughly.
[1:26:10] That
[1:26:10] s what it
[1:26:11] s costing. Yeah,
[1:26:12] look at the left there.
[1:26:15] By the way, I went back and
[1:26:16] checked before we put it in the
[1:26:17] budget. I don
[1:26:18] t know, what, 2
[1:26:20] years ago, uh, to add the two
[1:26:21] deputies, I went back and
[1:26:24] looked 15 years, we had not
[1:26:26] added a single traffic deputy.
[1:26:28] 15 years and it MAY have gone
[1:26:29] back further. I just, I think I
[1:26:31] ran out of data.
[1:26:32] So we were flat. And so we
[1:26:35] added the two.
[1:26:36] I quite frankly, out of what
[1:26:37] s
[1:26:39] been happening and still not
[1:26:40] seeing enough reduction in
[1:26:41] speed even though we
[1:26:41] ve seen
[1:26:42] some. I
[1:26:42] m gonna propose in the
[1:26:44] next budget that we add 2 more.
[1:26:46] And, and I think we need to,
[1:26:47] and I think we need to all
[1:26:49] consider that and we MAY even
[1:26:50] do that before the next budget
[1:26:53] and do it in mid-year. So, uh,
[1:26:53] but it
[1:26:53] s it
[1:26:54] s important, you
[1:26:55] know, it takes, it takes a
[1:26:56] while to get them on board, but
[1:26:58] you can see the cost. It, it
[1:26:58] s,
[1:27:00] uh, the first year is just
[1:27:00] under a million, that
[1:27:01] s because
[1:27:03] you gotta get a car for each
[1:27:04] one, each one of them. And then
[1:27:07] it, it goes down to about
[1:27:10] 700,000 a year ongoing for 2,
[1:27:12] and why 2 that covers, uh, both
[1:27:13] shifts, right?
[1:27:15] Um, quick question for, uh,
[1:27:18] Captain Watts, how many traffic
[1:27:19] deputies do we have as a whole?
[1:27:21] What, what is adding to is what
[1:27:22] kind of percentage increase in
[1:27:25] our enforcement, so currently,
[1:27:28] um, we staff 4 motors, so 4 on
[1:27:30] the motorcycles, and then after
[1:27:32] adding those two dui cars,
[1:27:34] which also do enforcement,
[1:27:35] speed enforcement, and other
[1:27:38] enforcement. Um, we are at 7
[1:27:39] cars, so it
[1:27:40] s a significant
[1:27:42] increase and 2 more would be a
[1:27:43] very significant. So, so that,
[1:27:43] that.
[1:27:43] That
[1:27:44] s one proposal. I just
[1:27:45] wanna make sure we
[1:27:45] re, we
[1:27:46] re
[1:27:48] looking at how much money we
[1:27:50] have spent on roadway safety
[1:27:51] versus what we
[1:27:52] re spending on
[1:27:53] additional traffic deputies,
[1:27:54] school crossing guards, I think
[1:27:56] it was a really good use of
[1:27:58] money too. And, and bicycle
[1:27:59] safety.
[1:28:01] They, they all pale in
[1:28:03] comparison to what we spent on
[1:28:04] infrastructure, but
[1:28:05] infrastructure will protect
[1:28:07] that half mile, that quarter
[1:28:09] mile, that mile, whatever we do.
[1:28:10] But even then we
[1:28:10] ve had
[1:28:13] accidents.
[1:28:16] At Cardiff, uh, Cardiff, uh,
[1:28:19] the, uh, cycle trail, the uh
[1:28:20] what do you call it, bike trail.
[1:28:21] Yeah, the, the, uh.
[1:28:22] We
[1:28:23] ve had accidents, deaths
[1:28:25] there. We had another death on,
[1:28:27] on, on 2020 on Lucadia
[1:28:29] Boulevard at an improved
[1:28:30] separated bike lane. They
[1:28:31] re
[1:28:33] not a panacea for perfect
[1:28:33] safety. It
[1:28:34] s all gonna come
[1:28:36] down to driver behavior
[1:28:37] ultimately. So we really need
[1:28:39] to change that and I, every
[1:28:41] time, every opportunity I have,
[1:28:42] I call on everyone, slow down,
[1:28:43] even if you
[1:28:44] re going slightly
[1:28:45] slower, and I, yes, I have
[1:28:46] people behind me honking too,
[1:28:48] and I, and, but
[1:28:50] You know, we gotta do it.
[1:28:51] So that that
[1:28:53] s one point, um.
[1:28:54] Second item that I would
[1:28:56] propose to this council is I
[1:28:57] wanna go back through the
[1:28:59] history first.
[1:29:01] Um, we adopted this council,
[1:29:04] not this council, but a council
[1:29:06] adopted Vision Zero back in
[1:29:09] 2019 or it was, it was proposed.
[1:29:13] It had, we adopted it in 2021.
[1:29:16] So we do have a vision zero
[1:29:18] plan. It is there. Out of that
[1:29:20] came the local roadway safety
[1:29:21] plan, which was written in
[1:29:23] FEBRUARY of 2022, and if you
[1:29:24] haven
[1:29:25] t read it, uh, I would
[1:29:26] recommend it. It
[1:29:26] s very good.
[1:29:27] It
[1:29:27] s very analytical. It
[1:29:28] s a
[1:29:29] day.
[1:29:30] Data-driven document, and then
[1:29:35] out of that came the uh the um.
[1:29:35] What
[1:29:36] s that now? Oh, the, uh,
[1:29:37] um.
[1:29:40] What is it? Csap. I can never
[1:29:42] remember the uh, um.
[1:29:42] What
[1:29:42] s the, what
[1:29:45] s the, uh,
[1:29:46] comprehensive safety action
[1:29:48] action plan, which is actually
[1:29:50] less if you, you read it, it
[1:29:51] s
[1:29:53] actually less uh quantitative
[1:29:54] and, and a little less data
[1:29:54] analytics. It
[1:29:55] s a little more
[1:29:56] policy driven.
[1:29:58] What I would propose is that we
[1:30:00] bring that back in the not too
[1:30:02] distant future and regenize it
[1:30:03] because I think the only, only
[1:30:04] person that was on council at
[1:30:07] the time was, uh, uh, council
[1:30:08] member lines. The rest of us
[1:30:10] are, are new after this. And so
[1:30:10] I
[1:30:13] d like to have us regenize
[1:30:15] and review those two, similar
[1:30:16] to what we did in the case of
[1:30:18] flooding when we brought back
[1:30:20] the q3 report a couple of years
[1:30:20] ago. It
[1:30:21] s a chance for this
[1:30:23] council to buy in and make
[1:30:24] modifications to that very same
[1:30:26] plan and then per potential.
[1:30:28] Essentially direct updating it,
[1:30:31] which I think is one of the,
[1:30:33] one of the reoccurring themes I
[1:30:35] hear is we want better data,
[1:30:36] more appropriate data. Quite
[1:30:39] frankly, I, I look at that and
[1:30:44] both the csap and the lr lrsp
[1:30:46] both basically look at
[1:30:48] What problems or where most of
[1:30:50] the crashes and fatalities and,
[1:30:51] and serious injuries are coming
[1:30:52] from. Guess what? They they
[1:30:52] re
[1:30:54] coming from speeding,
[1:30:55] distracted driving, running
[1:30:57] stop signs, running stoplights,
[1:30:58] and drunken driving. That
[1:30:59] s in
[1:31:00] both of those reports if you go
[1:31:02] back and read them tonight.
[1:31:04] And and so I think we
[1:31:04] ve done a
[1:31:07] lot of the work. We just need
[1:31:09] to maybe familiarize not only
[1:31:10] ourselves but probably the
[1:31:12] public. So, I, I would propose
[1:31:14] that, uh, we agendize that at a
[1:31:16] future meeting, hopefully
[1:31:17] OCTOBER, maybe, you know, it
[1:31:18] depends on where it
[1:31:19] ll fit in,
[1:31:20] but sooner better.
[1:31:22] Uh,
[1:31:24] And, and then, I, I think I
[1:31:26] will, uh,
[1:31:28] Yield at that point because, uh.
[1:31:32] We had 11 last point.
[1:31:32] Um, and I
[1:31:34] m going to quote
[1:31:35] Fabian Gunnell, because you
[1:31:37] said actions matter more than
[1:31:39] words. That is so true.
[1:31:41] Uh, when When I went back and I
[1:31:43] looked at the emergency
[1:31:45] declaration and, you know, we
[1:31:47] could declare an emergency.
[1:31:48] What happened the last time I
[1:31:49] was on the council when we
[1:31:51] declared an emergency, and
[1:31:51] quite frankly, I didn
[1:31:52] t know
[1:31:54] what it, it had expired. But I
[1:31:57] learned that later.
[1:31:59] All the response was, what
[1:32:01] additional powers does the
[1:32:02] council get from declaring an
[1:32:03] emergency, and it
[1:32:04] s really
[1:32:05] almost none. What, what that
[1:32:07] council did back then with me
[1:32:11] on it, is we put up the uh the
[1:32:12] flashing road signs, right,
[1:32:14] with the messaging signs. We
[1:32:16] printed a whole bunch of, of.
[1:32:18] Science, uh, yard signs that
[1:32:20] went out.
[1:32:22] But everything else, all the,
[1:32:25] the actions as, as Fabian would
[1:32:27] call it, those all came out of
[1:32:28] council action that
[1:32:29] s long term
[1:32:30] and that we
[1:32:31] ve been working on
[1:32:32] and building on, building on
[1:32:35] the local road safety plan,
[1:32:36] building on the csap building
[1:32:38] on all the work that staff
[1:32:38] s
[1:32:39] been doing, building on the
[1:32:41] work that that the sheriff
[1:32:41] s
[1:32:43] captain has done to increase
[1:32:45] enforcement and change driver
[1:32:46] behavior. So, um,
[1:32:46] I don
[1:32:48] t, I don
[1:32:49] t know that
[1:32:51] words and declarations are the
[1:32:52] most important thing here
[1:32:53] tonight, I think, as Fabian
[1:32:56] said, actions.
[1:32:59] Actions very particular actions.
[1:32:59] Let
[1:33:00] s, let
[1:33:00] s continue building
[1:33:03] better roads, safer roads where
[1:33:04] appropriate.
[1:33:05] Uh, let Let
[1:33:06] s continue the
[1:33:06] enforcement. Let
[1:33:09] s add to the
[1:33:10] enforcement and there were some
[1:33:12] great ideas, the cutout of the
[1:33:14] sheriff is kind of similar to
[1:33:15] having the car, uh, an unmanned
[1:33:18] car parked, uh, there too. And,
[1:33:19] and by the way, I
[1:33:20] ve seen that
[1:33:22] and watched that and people jam
[1:33:23] on their brakes at the stop
[1:33:24] sign when they come up to a
[1:33:26] corner and see a police car. So
[1:33:26] I don
[1:33:27] t know if we buy a bunch
[1:33:28] of used cars, paint them black
[1:33:29] and white, and put them out
[1:33:30] there. But their ideas like
[1:33:32] that, but
[1:33:34] My bottom line here.
[1:33:35] What we
[1:33:37] re doing is not one
[1:33:38] action, it
[1:33:40] s a complete breadth
[1:33:41] of actions. There are many, and
[1:33:42] I think you heard tonight that
[1:33:43] that
[1:33:43] s what we
[1:33:44] ve been doing.
[1:33:46] We will continue to do, uh, as
[1:33:47] the council changes over this
[1:33:49] next year, I hope future
[1:33:50] councils will continue that.
[1:33:51] So with that, I
[1:33:52] ll yield.
[1:33:53] COUNCILMAN Schaffer.
[1:33:55] Thank you, Mayor. Um.
[1:33:58] Uh, I do believe that this is
[1:33:59] obviously a very important to
[1:34:02] all of, of Encinitas and when
[1:34:03] we look at the different models,
[1:34:03] and I
[1:34:04] m just gonna go through
[1:34:04] the list I
[1:34:05] ve written kind of
[1:34:07] in order. The RRFBs, I think
[1:34:07] that they
[1:34:08] re great. I think
[1:34:09] that they need, uh, a lead time
[1:34:10] for the driver, cause it
[1:34:11] s a,
[1:34:12] it
[1:34:12] s, an, it
[1:34:13] s an, a push and
[1:34:15] activated immediately when you
[1:34:16] activate it, uh, I think
[1:34:16] there
[1:34:17] s a false confidence that
[1:34:18] sometimes where people feel
[1:34:20] like they can walk like a
[1:34:21] normal stoplight where they
[1:34:21] re
[1:34:22] all the cars have the yellow,
[1:34:23] they have time to slow down,
[1:34:25] and then a red to come to that
[1:34:26] stop, um.
[1:34:27] On a number of occasions I
[1:34:27] ve
[1:34:29] seen myself in Cardiff and also
[1:34:31] in Lucadia. People push the
[1:34:32] button and walk, and it
[1:34:32] s a
[1:34:33] false confidence and I, I don
[1:34:34] t
[1:34:35] want to keep creating a false
[1:34:36] confidence. I want stuff that
[1:34:37] actually works, so if there
[1:34:37] s a
[1:34:39] way to do that, I know that
[1:34:39] I
[1:34:41] ve talked about this before,
[1:34:43] Ensenada in, in a, a country
[1:34:44] that supposedly is, is lesser
[1:34:45] than us, has a countdown on
[1:34:46] their yellow lights, their,
[1:34:48] their, uh, the yellow on the
[1:34:49] light signal. I
[1:34:49] m not sure
[1:34:49] that
[1:34:50] s something that we could
[1:34:52] look into, but having a the one
[1:34:53] time that you can know that the
[1:34:55] timing of the light is when the
[1:34:56] crosswalk is.
[1:34:57] Counting down and you see the
[1:34:59] light go yellow, you know.
[1:35:00] How much more time there is,
[1:35:02] and it gives you that that
[1:35:02] confidence and now the driver
[1:35:04] from a distance, especially
[1:35:05] with the speeds of the vehicles.
[1:35:07] The distance you can be from a
[1:35:08] light, uh, let
[1:35:09] s say South El
[1:35:10] El Camino Real, uh, down there
[1:35:11] by the college. You could be
[1:35:13] going at the 55 miles an hour
[1:35:15] and that light changes, you
[1:35:16] know, whatever the, the timing
[1:35:18] is, so you, you have cars
[1:35:20] driving at a, a greater speed
[1:35:21] at different times.
[1:35:24] Uh, I think, um, Fabian brought
[1:35:26] up, you know, the actions, I
[1:35:27] would say the, the slow is
[1:35:28] important. I think that
[1:35:29] separate is better.
[1:35:32] So I think that, you know, Judy
[1:35:34] Berlein brought up the idea of
[1:35:35] the intersections that you do
[1:35:36] have to cross the major
[1:35:38] thoroughfares, that would be a
[1:35:38] help.
[1:35:42] For us to have these separate
[1:35:43] um mobility locations where
[1:35:45] that are safer streets, but
[1:35:46] when we do have the points of
[1:35:48] crossing, uh, that are most
[1:35:50] used that we can hammer those
[1:35:51] locations for enforcement. I
[1:35:52] think that
[1:35:53] s a comprehensive
[1:35:55] approach to start separating as
[1:35:57] much as possible bikes and um
[1:35:59] and cars. There are gonna be
[1:36:00] locations where they are gonna,
[1:36:01] you know, meet up, but in those
[1:36:03] locations, we, we hammer down
[1:36:04] on, uh, again, Melba, I
[1:36:05] m sorry,
[1:36:07] uh, Blo and Nia Boulevard. It
[1:36:07] s
[1:36:08] been talked about. There
[1:36:08] s
[1:36:08] schools there. It
[1:36:09] s a lot of.
[1:36:10] Uh, issues. I actually had a
[1:36:12] good friend, uh, older brother,
[1:36:13] uh, get hit there, uh,
[1:36:15] thankfully lived, but was 8
[1:36:17] months in the hospital, so, uh,
[1:36:17] that
[1:36:18] s back in the, the mid 80s,
[1:36:20] so this is not something new to
[1:36:22] the city, um.
[1:36:24] I think the traffic blitzes
[1:36:25] have been working. I think
[1:36:25] we
[1:36:26] re at the point with the
[1:36:28] omnipresence that uh.
[1:36:30] The sheriff, you know,
[1:36:31] represents, and the reason that
[1:36:32] the omnipresence works is that
[1:36:33] you see a sheriff, you know, on
[1:36:34] this street and two streets
[1:36:35] over, you
[1:36:35] re not gonna speed
[1:36:36] because you just saw a sheriff,
[1:36:36] you
[1:36:37] re not sure you
[1:36:37] re gonna
[1:36:39] see one again, uh, around the
[1:36:41] corner, so something along the
[1:36:42] lines of maybe announcing the
[1:36:44] traffic, traffic blizzards. I
[1:36:45] think people have been hammered
[1:36:47] enough now where if we announce
[1:36:48] the traffic blicits, it might
[1:36:50] actually get the, the value
[1:36:51] that we want before people even
[1:36:52] get on the road that morning.
[1:36:54] They MAY leave earlier, so
[1:36:55] whether you do it that morning
[1:36:56] or not, just announcing it
[1:36:58] might be enough to.
[1:36:59] To change the behavior and
[1:36:59] we
[1:37:00] re doing it enough where the
[1:37:02] person MAY or MAY not know that
[1:37:02] it
[1:37:03] s happening that morning,
[1:37:04] and it might give them the
[1:37:05] value to just, uh, and if you
[1:37:06] put it the night before or
[1:37:07] something like that and it
[1:37:08] starts to change that behavior
[1:37:09] a little bit over time, you
[1:37:11] know, week after week, um, it
[1:37:13] starts to, uh, make that change.
[1:37:18] Uh, I do believe that the
[1:37:20] static displays, the, the using
[1:37:21] the volunteer, uh, sheriff,
[1:37:22] like, you know, just seeing the
[1:37:24] black and white, it, it
[1:37:26] automatically uh creates, uh,
[1:37:26] that change.
[1:37:29] So in areas where it might be
[1:37:31] uh too dangerous or, uh, I
[1:37:32] forget who it was that spoke
[1:37:33] about it. It was this young
[1:37:34] lady over here. I don
[1:37:34] t, Laura,
[1:37:35] no, no, it wasn
[1:37:38] t Laura.
[1:37:39] Connie, yeah Yeah, Connie,
[1:37:41] Connie, yeah. So the idea is to
[1:37:43] have, uh, maybe to be able to
[1:37:45] put some static displays out in
[1:37:46] the locations where it just
[1:37:47] slows down the traffic before
[1:37:48] we have the problem again I
[1:37:50] know we wanna hammer people, we
[1:37:51] wanna give them tickets, but
[1:37:53] really we want to save lives.
[1:37:54] So if, if it
[1:37:54] s only about
[1:37:55] tickets, then we MAY not be
[1:37:56] saving the lives if we don
[1:37:56] t
[1:37:58] just get the behavior to change
[1:38:00] over the course of time. Um,
[1:38:01] and then I have talked about
[1:38:03] this over, uh, there are
[1:38:05] Parts of the world, uh, it
[1:38:05] s
[1:38:07] got to spend some, some time in
[1:38:08] Australia last year for a
[1:38:10] number of weeks, and the fact
[1:38:12] is they use roundabouts
[1:38:13] significantly better than we do.
[1:38:15] I think in this city because of
[1:38:17] our, um, the freeway that goes
[1:38:19] through town and the uh the uh
[1:38:20] railroad track that goes
[1:38:21] through town, it changes our
[1:38:23] lights so significantly that we
[1:38:23] can
[1:38:26] t get to the consistent
[1:38:28] mobility of our traffic and so
[1:38:29] we want to have a better
[1:38:30] lighting system. We want to
[1:38:31] have a better, uh, flow for the
[1:38:32] thoroughfare, so people don
[1:38:33] t
[1:38:34] leave the thoroughfare.
[1:38:36] That go through residential
[1:38:38] streets where kids and
[1:38:39] bicyclists and pedestrians
[1:38:40] should be using those roads on
[1:38:41] a more regular basis. Again,
[1:38:42] I
[1:38:42] m not telling people I
[1:38:42] m not
[1:38:44] going into this boulevard, but
[1:38:46] it, it does, it has its, it
[1:38:46] s
[1:38:48] natural issues. So if we were
[1:38:49] gonna do roundabouts instead of
[1:38:50] doing one here, one there, you
[1:38:53] know, uh, a grant here or there,
[1:38:54] uh, have a comprehensive plan
[1:38:55] of what it would look like. Do
[1:38:57] we need 20? Do we need 50? Do
[1:38:59] we need, you know, 100 in this
[1:39:00] town to actually make the
[1:39:02] traffic flow at, at a rate that
[1:39:03] actually gets us from point a
[1:39:05] to point b.
[1:39:06] Consistent with the
[1:39:08] availability of less.
[1:39:12] Uh, direct, blunt crashes,
[1:39:12] which we
[1:39:14] ve shown in videos
[1:39:16] here before that the
[1:39:17] roundabouts lower the
[1:39:19] fatalities in, uh, because of
[1:39:20] the angle of the accident. It
[1:39:20] s
[1:39:21] an off kilter. It
[1:39:23] s not in the
[1:39:24] direct t-bone or head-on
[1:39:25] collision model. So if we
[1:39:25] re
[1:39:26] going to do something of that
[1:39:27] nature instead of just having
[1:39:30] 12 or 31 here, 1 there. What
[1:39:32] would it look like to have a
[1:39:33] comprehensive, uh, roundabout
[1:39:35] plan in this city.
[1:39:37] Um, and then something I don
[1:39:37] t
[1:39:38] think people are talking about
[1:39:40] enough, but with what the onset
[1:39:42] of the waymos and some of these
[1:39:43] rideshare programs in the
[1:39:45] bigger cities.
[1:39:47] Uber started in, in dc, started
[1:39:49] in la and San Francisco, and
[1:39:49] now it
[1:39:50] s all over the entire
[1:39:51] world, so it
[1:39:51] s only a matter of
[1:39:54] time that we see rideshare in
[1:39:56] the, uh, transportation as a
[1:39:57] service coming our way and
[1:39:58] seeing what that might look
[1:40:01] like as at a greater capacity
[1:40:03] of what it would, uh, how long
[1:40:06] it looks like until we might
[1:40:09] have 20%, 30%, uh.
[1:40:10] Unmanned vehicles, you know,
[1:40:12] driving and.
[1:40:13] You know, taking people to
[1:40:14] point a to point b, seeing what
[1:40:16] that does for the safety
[1:40:18] overall, um.
[1:40:19] With regards to the, the
[1:40:20] sensors and the ability for
[1:40:22] those vehicles to drive the
[1:40:23] exact speed limit, not going
[1:40:24] over. There
[1:40:25] s no human error in
[1:40:27] that remodel. Obviously the
[1:40:28] technology has to be there, but
[1:40:28] it wouldn
[1:40:29] t be a bad idea for
[1:40:30] us to have an onset of what
[1:40:31] that looks like in the city and
[1:40:31] if that
[1:40:32] s something that we
[1:40:33] want to head towards, uh, as
[1:40:34] those become more available.
[1:40:37] Um, thank you, I rest.
[1:40:39] Ok, and uh council member lines.
[1:40:45] Thank you Mayor, um, I
[1:40:46] m, I
[1:40:47] m,
[1:40:48] I wanna thank the public for
[1:40:49] being here. I really feel like
[1:40:51] this opportunity for everyone
[1:40:52] to speak was really valuable,
[1:40:53] and I appreciated all your
[1:40:56] comments. Thank you. I always
[1:40:57] learned a lot and, um, thank
[1:40:59] you for putting the effort into
[1:41:00] coming.
[1:41:05] Um, so I, I do want to, uh,
[1:41:07] start by saying I appreciate my
[1:41:07] colleague
[1:41:08] s comments so far. Um,
[1:41:11] I will make it 3 so far that
[1:41:12] are really, that, uh, I
[1:41:13] m
[1:41:14] really in support of some of
[1:41:15] the things they
[1:41:15] ve already
[1:41:17] suggested, and, uh, so what I
[1:41:21] wanted to, uh, to do is to
[1:41:24] first just say that I share the
[1:41:25] community
[1:41:26] s concern about the
[1:41:29] safety of our children, and I
[1:41:30] feel where, where my
[1:41:32] through line is on roadway
[1:41:33] safety has to do with our
[1:41:34] children, and we
[1:41:34] re in the
[1:41:36] position where we can lead as
[1:41:38] the governing body, and I, I do
[1:41:40] want to see us take some action
[1:41:41] at this juncture.
[1:41:44] Um, right now, also, staff is
[1:41:46] bringing this forward to us to
[1:41:47] say, oh, these are the things
[1:41:47] we
[1:41:48] ve done, and we
[1:41:48] re hearing
[1:41:49] from the public saying these
[1:41:50] are the things we
[1:41:51] d like you to
[1:41:52] do. So we
[1:41:53] re at a juncture
[1:41:54] where we can give staff some
[1:41:56] clear direction. So, I do want
[1:41:57] to leave this meeting with
[1:41:59] giving staff some clear
[1:42:01] direction, um, on where I would
[1:42:04] like to see us move forward and
[1:42:06] also to compliment what my
[1:42:07] colleagues are already saying
[1:42:10] here from the dais. I feel like
[1:42:12] our, uh, sheriff has done.
[1:42:15] A really, really good job.
[1:42:18] Kudos to Captain Watts. Um, I
[1:42:18] d
[1:42:20] like him and his team to
[1:42:22] continue to do a great job and
[1:42:24] be as well funded as we need,
[1:42:27] and I look forward to future
[1:42:28] discussion on that. If more
[1:42:30] funding is valuable and how it
[1:42:32] will be used, I will be open to
[1:42:34] supporting it, but I do wanna
[1:42:36] make sure I give a shout out on
[1:42:38] that. What I would like us to
[1:42:40] do here now then is to do as
[1:42:40] well as he
[1:42:42] s doing, um.
[1:42:44] And that has to do more with
[1:42:46] what action are we going to
[1:42:48] take to have our roadways be
[1:42:50] safer, not just the enforcement.
[1:42:53] I want to start by saying,
[1:42:58] I was at the um mts, uh,
[1:43:00] commission meeting on AUGUST
[1:43:01] 10th, where a lot of the
[1:43:03] community came forward to talk
[1:43:04] about their concerns for
[1:43:05] roadway safety, and the
[1:43:06] commission was also talking
[1:43:07] about their work plans. So it
[1:43:09] was really good to hear the
[1:43:11] community concerns. One of my
[1:43:13] friends, Bill Shen, said,
[1:43:16] Something that I think is
[1:43:18] really poignant, and that is
[1:43:20] vehicle drivers go the speed
[1:43:22] the road invites them to go,
[1:43:24] and I, I noted that at the time
[1:43:25] and I thought, well, that
[1:43:26] s
[1:43:28] really another one of my
[1:43:30] guiding principles when the
[1:43:31] roadway allows a driver to go
[1:43:33] fast, they will be invited to
[1:43:36] go fast. And so I will, I will
[1:43:40] place a lot of my emphasis more
[1:43:42] on our roadway design and what
[1:43:43] we can do to make our
[1:43:43] pedestrians.
[1:43:46] And our bicycles safer
[1:43:48] Uh, I also support the fact
[1:43:48] we
[1:43:49] ve done a lot of research on
[1:43:51] this already. We already have a
[1:43:53] couple of data-driven documents.
[1:43:55] The local road safety plan is
[1:43:57] the one that was approved in
[1:44:00] 2022 and it has some really
[1:44:02] outstanding, uh, data.
[1:44:03] Uh, I just, I
[1:44:04] ll just call to a
[1:44:07] few things and then suggest
[1:44:09] that we might consider these as
[1:44:11] we go forward, looking at what
[1:44:13] we do to make our pedestrian
[1:44:15] and bicyclists safer on the
[1:44:17] roadway and thus make everyone
[1:44:18] safer on the roadway.
[1:44:21] For example, in this
[1:44:23] data-driven document, they have
[1:44:25] safety measures or what they
[1:44:27] call countermeasures, and they
[1:44:29] recommend, uh, these, uh,
[1:44:31] projects, specific projects for
[1:44:34] funding. For example, they
[1:44:37] articulate signal timing. They
[1:44:38] articulate this document
[1:44:39] articulates dilemma zones,
[1:44:41] dilemma zones are where there
[1:44:42] are a lot of an intersection
[1:44:43] where there
[1:44:44] s a lot happening.
[1:44:46] Uh, they articulate bite boxes.
[1:44:49] They articulate, uh, bike.
[1:44:50] Markings and maybe the one I
[1:44:55] want to land on is they, um,
[1:44:57] outlined pedestrian crossings
[1:44:58] with enhancements, the safety
[1:45:00] measures associated with
[1:45:01] pedestrian crossings at
[1:45:03] intersections or wherever
[1:45:05] pedestrians are crossing, and
[1:45:06] the projects that are
[1:45:08] articulated in this document
[1:45:10] that at that time were
[1:45:12] suggested to move forward as
[1:45:15] the highest priority locations
[1:45:20] only cost $292,000. So, um, I
[1:45:20] wanted to.
[1:45:22] Show that as an example of if
[1:45:25] we really focus on where get
[1:45:26] get staff to come back as we
[1:45:27] re
[1:45:27] talking about, you know,
[1:45:29] looking at this document, maybe
[1:45:29] we don
[1:45:30] t need a full update
[1:45:30] that
[1:45:31] s going to take 9 months,
[1:45:33] but maybe what we do is look at
[1:45:35] this document, identify where
[1:45:37] those top priorities are and
[1:45:38] then challenge ourselves to
[1:45:39] find the funding right away.
[1:45:41] Sometimes it might just be
[1:45:43] signal timing. Sometimes it
[1:45:45] might just be the advanced
[1:45:47] timing on the pedestrian
[1:45:48] activated lights. Let
[1:45:49] s find
[1:45:49] that.
[1:45:50] Lowest hanging fruit, and let
[1:45:50] s
[1:45:52] go for it right away. Let
[1:45:53] s
[1:45:56] take action. Um, and so I would,
[1:45:59] I would be in support of
[1:46:02] focusing on um these pedestrian
[1:46:04] crossings at intersections, and
[1:46:04] I
[1:46:05] d be happy to consider
[1:46:06] additional funding and how we
[1:46:08] can move this forward as soon
[1:46:08] as possible. I
[1:46:09] ll rest.
[1:46:15] Cap.
[1:46:17] Ok, uh, council member of San
[1:46:19] Antonio, thank you. Uh, thank
[1:46:20] you, Mayor. Um, I just wanna
[1:46:22] say thank you, uh, thank you,
[1:46:24] staff. Thank you, Dan, thank
[1:46:26] you, Captain Watts for the
[1:46:27] excellent report. Thank you for
[1:46:29] what.
[1:46:31] You guys do for the city, um,
[1:46:32] obviously, the numbers show
[1:46:33] that you guys are doing
[1:46:35] wonderful, um, work for the
[1:46:37] city. Dan, great job on getting
[1:46:38] this report together. I know
[1:46:38] that
[1:46:41] s a lot of work and I.
[1:46:43] I believe that we are doing a
[1:46:44] lot.
[1:46:46] But can we be doing more?
[1:46:47] Of course, that is what we
[1:46:48] re
[1:46:49] here for. We
[1:46:49] re here to
[1:46:50] continue the work. We
[1:46:51] re here
[1:46:52] to continue to build on what
[1:46:53] we
[1:46:54] ve done now into the future,
[1:46:55] um.
[1:46:57] I think
[1:46:59] Everyone here in this room.
[1:47:00] Is here for the same thing.
[1:47:03] Fewer injuries.
[1:47:05] I, I believe in Vision Zero. I
[1:47:05] believe it
[1:47:06] s, I do, I think
[1:47:06] it
[1:47:08] s possible. I, I truly in my
[1:47:09] heart, I, that
[1:47:10] s the, that
[1:47:10] s
[1:47:10] the goal. That
[1:47:11] s where we want
[1:47:12] to shoot for. So we want to
[1:47:13] shoot for that goal.
[1:47:15] Um,
[1:47:15] So I, I don
[1:47:17] t, I don
[1:47:17] t brush
[1:47:19] vision zero off. I think it
[1:47:19] s
[1:47:20] an important goal. I think it
[1:47:21] s
[1:47:22] something we should be shooting
[1:47:23] for, um,
[1:47:26] is no road deaths. Nobody wants
[1:47:29] My kids are 3 and 5. My 5 year
[1:47:29] old thinks he
[1:47:30] s, you know, he
[1:47:30] s
[1:47:32] a teenager now. He wants more
[1:47:33] and more.
[1:47:33] Uh,
[1:47:35] Rope to go down the hill to go
[1:47:37] over here to go, and I, I live
[1:47:39] off El Caminolo Don Norte, so
[1:47:41] my sister lives on Cole Ranch,
[1:47:43] um, and Lone Jack, so.
[1:47:44] That doesn
[1:47:45] t seem that far when
[1:47:46] we walk over there, but I know
[1:47:46] it
[1:47:47] s just a matter of time. He
[1:47:49] already went too far.
[1:47:50] Sorry to go on a tangent here,
[1:47:52] but he already went too far and
[1:47:53] we let that leash out a little
[1:47:55] bit too, too much. He went
[1:47:56] someplace he wasn
[1:47:57] t supposed to
[1:47:58] be. So that alone for me,
[1:47:58] that
[1:47:59] s like one of those things
[1:47:59] that
[1:48:00] s like, oh.
[1:48:02] A tense moment like.
[1:48:03] That that could easily happen.
[1:48:04] And that
[1:48:05] s what makes that.
[1:48:08] You know, the, I think it was,
[1:48:10] uh, some, somebody, a gentleman
[1:48:12] brought up our first Paul, um,
[1:48:14] that.
[1:48:16] Signalize light coming up when
[1:48:16] you push the button that it
[1:48:17] s
[1:48:19] actually, uh, ahead of that in,
[1:48:21] um, that rfp.
[1:48:22] Great idea. I mean, I thought
[1:48:25] that was a wonderful idea.
[1:48:26] Um, because you
[1:48:26] re right,
[1:48:27] people drive. I, when I leave
[1:48:28] that our neighborhood and I
[1:48:30] drive down that that road.
[1:48:32] People, people do, I.
[1:48:35] Go down that road pretty quick.
[1:48:37] Um, I actually saw one of my
[1:48:39] neighbors with Bruce
[1:48:40] s um speed
[1:48:41] gun at the corner, clocking
[1:48:42] people when I left my
[1:48:43] neighborhood one day, um, and
[1:48:45] he stopped me. He was like,
[1:48:45] Marco, look what I
[1:48:46] m doing.
[1:48:49] Um,
[1:48:50] So everybody here, I know we
[1:48:50] re,
[1:48:50] we
[1:48:52] re all here for the, for the,
[1:48:54] for the same reason. I
[1:48:54] m not
[1:48:55] here to say I
[1:48:55] m right, you
[1:48:56] re
[1:48:56] wrong, I
[1:48:57] m here because I want
[1:49:00] to continue the work that we.
[1:49:01] We are here talking about
[1:49:04] I think, uh,
[1:49:05] When I think about what
[1:49:05] s
[1:49:08] happening right now, I love
[1:49:09] hearing the community come
[1:49:11] forward with your ideas and the
[1:49:12] evaluation, Mike.
[1:49:14] I always love talking to you.
[1:49:16] Um, you have a lot of great
[1:49:17] input and I love what, what you,
[1:49:20] the, the passion you bring, um,
[1:49:21] so I always welcome those talks.
[1:49:23] I,, I, I love talking to Laura.
[1:49:25] I, I can sit here and, and name
[1:49:28] off people. I went on a bike
[1:49:30] ride with another concerned
[1:49:36] citizen, um, and I very spry,
[1:49:38] took me from Santaguido up and
[1:49:39] over the hill up to Riquesa. I
[1:49:40] think she was trying to
[1:49:42] actually kill me because she,
[1:49:42] the amount.
[1:49:43] Time she took me over this hill
[1:49:45] was.
[1:49:47] Insurmountable for me but I did
[1:49:50] it and I lived. But I did see.
[1:49:52] From her point of view and from
[1:49:52] the biker
[1:49:53] s point of view, what
[1:49:55] that, what these roads do look
[1:49:58] like, and it makes sense to me,
[1:50:00] um, I, along with what, um,
[1:50:01] Deputy Mayor o
[1:50:02] Hara and um
[1:50:03] council member Schaffer bring
[1:50:05] up the safer routes off the
[1:50:06] main roads. That
[1:50:06] s exactly what
[1:50:07] I think when I talked about
[1:50:08] with.
[1:50:10] Um, our concerned citizens are
[1:50:12] concerned biker that it made so
[1:50:12] much sense to me when I
[1:50:15] actually wrote it that.
[1:50:15] There are issues here that we
[1:50:17] can fix.
[1:50:18] Um, and I
[1:50:20] ll take that with me
[1:50:21] just from that first, firsthand,
[1:50:22] that first person point of view.
[1:50:24] Um,
[1:50:25] Let
[1:50:26] s see here.
[1:50:27] Um, again, I
[1:50:29] m not trying to
[1:50:29] say we
[1:50:30] re doing everything
[1:50:31] possible, but
[1:50:33] The amount of things that we
[1:50:33] ve
[1:50:34] listed off here, it, it
[1:50:34] s, it
[1:50:35] s
[1:50:36] quite a bit, and I, you know, I
[1:50:38] look at the 4 priorities of
[1:50:40] safe streets, speeding
[1:50:42] intersections, DUIs, distracted
[1:50:42] driving. I know we
[1:50:43] ve we
[1:50:43] ve
[1:50:44] listed all of these things on
[1:50:45] here, of all the things we
[1:50:45] ve
[1:50:47] done to
[1:50:48] To mitigate these things or
[1:50:51] help them or try to fix them
[1:50:52] and again, we
[1:50:53] ve done a lot.
[1:50:54] There
[1:50:55] s more to be done, and I
[1:50:56] think that
[1:50:57] s where I, I keep
[1:50:59] going back to is I know that it
[1:51:00] keeps coming back to.
[1:51:00] You
[1:51:01] re not doing enough or we
[1:51:03] need to do more, but our work
[1:51:06] is never done here. We could
[1:51:07] probably stop talking about
[1:51:08] this, get something passed, and
[1:51:10] stop talking about it, but
[1:51:11] something else will happen or
[1:51:11] we
[1:51:13] ll need to continue this
[1:51:16] conversation always, so.
[1:51:16] Let
[1:51:17] s see, um, I know red light
[1:51:19] cameras is coming up. I know
[1:51:20] this is a very kind of hot
[1:51:21] button topic.
[1:51:21] Um, for me, I
[1:51:23] m.
[1:51:25] You know, I am in support. I,
[1:51:25] I
[1:51:27] ll say it right now.
[1:51:27] I
[1:51:27] m, it
[1:51:29] s campaign season. This
[1:51:31] might kill me. But what it, it
[1:51:32] does for me is it
[1:51:33] s, it
[1:51:34] s
[1:51:35] helpful for the residents. I
[1:51:36] want to see at least, you know,
[1:51:37] if this is a pilot program,
[1:51:38] let
[1:51:38] s see. Let
[1:51:39] s see what it
[1:51:40] does, because it
[1:51:41] s, it, it is
[1:51:42] gonna make a difference and
[1:51:42] we
[1:51:43] ll see if it does. If it
[1:51:44] doesn
[1:51:45] t, you know, it was here
[1:51:45] before, it
[1:51:47] s gone now.
[1:51:48] I
[1:51:49] ve talked to you guys. Safe
[1:51:50] streets, enough about it, and I
[1:51:51] believe in it, so let
[1:51:51] s just at
[1:51:53] least.
[1:51:53] Let
[1:51:53] s, let
[1:51:53] s look, let
[1:51:54] s take a
[1:51:55] real look at it.
[1:51:59] Um,
[1:52:01] I think we, I think.
[1:52:02] Uh
[1:52:03] Again, I, I
[1:52:04] ll just say this
[1:52:04] also as well, so I
[1:52:05] ll, and then
[1:52:05] I
[1:52:05] ll, I
[1:52:07] ll, uh, and we
[1:52:07] re short
[1:52:09] on time. Um, I would support,
[1:52:10] you know, additional traffic
[1:52:12] deputies. I, I know that
[1:52:13] traffic the behavior when I see
[1:52:15] a cop, I know I, I don
[1:52:15] t drive
[1:52:17] fast, but I mean, I, I want to
[1:52:19] lead by example, so I, I try to
[1:52:21] really try to slow myself down
[1:52:22] in my van, even when i
[1:52:23] m going
[1:52:24] downhill on Riquesa, I can just
[1:52:25] not press on the gas. I
[1:52:25] m, I
[1:52:25] m
[1:52:26] already speeding.
[1:52:27] So I try to lead by example
[1:52:29] because just like Bruce.
[1:52:30] I don
[1:52:30] t want to be the one
[1:52:31] going, hey, that was a mayor
[1:52:32] driving by. That was a council
[1:52:33] member driving by. He just sped
[1:52:36] right by me.
[1:52:37] So, um, I
[1:52:38] ll rest there, but.
[1:52:40] I really do think this, whether
[1:52:40] we
[1:52:40] re it
[1:52:41] s like, it feels like
[1:52:42] it
[1:52:42] s this. I don
[1:52:43] t, I don
[1:52:43] t
[1:52:44] feel that. What I feel is like
[1:52:46] you guys are giving us what we
[1:52:48] need to hear and that maybe
[1:52:51] that bit of abrasion or whatnot
[1:52:52] with the way, however you wanna
[1:52:53] to word it, gives us the, the
[1:52:54] impetus to be like, all right,
[1:52:55] like,
[1:52:57] We gotta do more.
[1:52:59] So, uh, I
[1:53:00] ll rest. Ok. And
[1:53:00] Deputy Mayor o
[1:53:05] Hara.
[1:53:06] Um, I wanna thank everybody for
[1:53:07] their input today. Thank the
[1:53:09] public for showing up today and
[1:53:11] really participating. Um, I
[1:53:11] think we all, it
[1:53:12] s clear we all,
[1:53:14] we all share your, your
[1:53:15] concerns. It
[1:53:16] s never-ending
[1:53:18] task for us up here, um.
[1:53:21] I wanna
[1:53:23] Cover a couple of quick things
[1:53:24] that, that I think aren
[1:53:24] t on
[1:53:26] this report.
[1:53:28] And, you know, one is, I think,
[1:53:29] um,
[1:53:30] You know,
[1:53:33] Certainly
[1:53:34] When I walked in the building,
[1:53:36] um,
[1:53:38] a couple of years ago, I felt
[1:53:40] like staff looked at unique
[1:53:41] situational approaches to
[1:53:43] things and individual sites,
[1:53:44] intersections, intersection
[1:53:45] where piecemelling a city
[1:53:45] together.
[1:53:47] Um, and I look at the things
[1:53:49] like the csap and the, the
[1:53:51] local roadway projects and, uh,
[1:53:52] the other products and I look
[1:53:53] at the circulation element
[1:53:54] coming back and with the
[1:53:56] partnership of council member
[1:53:57] Chief are really pushing that
[1:53:58] circulation. I want to come
[1:54:00] back. We see this more holistic
[1:54:01] plan coming together and it
[1:54:02] s a
[1:54:03] compliment to staff on their
[1:54:06] hard work on it. Um, and while
[1:54:08] we do address situational
[1:54:10] pieces in there. Um, the city
[1:54:10] s
[1:54:11] approach has become more
[1:54:12] systemic and looking at the
[1:54:14] whole picture and within that,
[1:54:15] the goal is 0.
[1:54:17] Death. The goal is always zero
[1:54:19] deaths to our ability.
[1:54:19] It
[1:54:20] s a shared responsibility
[1:54:20] between the government and the
[1:54:22] public.
[1:54:24] Um, I have an 11 year old
[1:54:26] daughter, and just like anyone
[1:54:27] else here, I don
[1:54:28] t live on a
[1:54:29] busy street in Maine Arterial
[1:54:30] in the city because I don
[1:54:30] t
[1:54:31] want my daughter playing on a,
[1:54:32] on a busy street. I want to be
[1:54:33] able to go out and play in the
[1:54:34] middle of the street like you
[1:54:35] see in movies. Um, even within
[1:54:37] that, I live on a quiet street.
[1:54:39] She has to go 400 yards up the
[1:54:40] street so that she can see any
[1:54:40] car that comes around the
[1:54:42] corner and they can say, game
[1:54:44] on, and hop off. When she
[1:54:46] crosses our street.
[1:54:47] Yell out the kitchen window.
[1:54:50] Look both ways.
[1:54:50] It
[1:54:51] s never ending. It
[1:54:52] s a
[1:54:53] shared responsibility between
[1:54:54] everybody using the road. And
[1:54:55] we all realize that up here,
[1:54:56] and we
[1:54:56] re all working to move
[1:54:57] forward with that, with its
[1:54:59] pedestrians.
[1:55:01] Cyclist vehicles and how they
[1:55:03] all interact together.
[1:55:04] And, and that
[1:55:05] s never messed up
[1:55:09] here by anybody up here, um,
[1:55:10] staff has really bought into
[1:55:10] this idea and and done a
[1:55:12] fantastic job with it. City
[1:55:12] manager
[1:55:13] s office has really
[1:55:14] done a great job on it. Um, and
[1:55:17] I want to touch on the, the
[1:55:18] unique situations like that,
[1:55:20] that is also the second piece
[1:55:20] that isn
[1:55:24] t in there is
[1:55:24] We
[1:55:25] re meeting on site more
[1:55:27] often than ever before, whether
[1:55:27] it
[1:55:28] s a council member, whether
[1:55:28] it
[1:55:29] s a city manager, whether
[1:55:30] it
[1:55:31] s the staff, um, and I can
[1:55:33] look at an example of a great
[1:55:34] example of that is that the
[1:55:35] ymca, where we
[1:55:36] re replacing
[1:55:37] those chicanes with stop signs.
[1:55:39] We met with the ymca Seacrest,
[1:55:41] a number of the neighbors.
[1:55:43] Staff was out there. The city
[1:55:44] manager was out there, myself,
[1:55:47] and we watched.
[1:55:49] A failed infrastructure piece.
[1:55:50] The shakes, we watched cars, we
[1:55:51] watched an nctd bus. I
[1:55:52] m
[1:55:52] ashamed I
[1:55:52] m ashamed to say it,
[1:55:53] drive right over it.
[1:55:54] Like it wasn
[1:55:56] t even there.
[1:55:58] Um, so infrastructure is great.
[1:55:59] But we want to go back and make
[1:56:00] sure it works. And I
[1:56:01] m really
[1:56:02] Glad and you didn
[1:56:02] t put, you
[1:56:02] didn
[1:56:03] t put it on the, on the,
[1:56:04] on the report, but I think you
[1:56:05] should have. Like, you
[1:56:05] re out
[1:56:06] there.
[1:56:07] Checking in on the projects
[1:56:07] that you
[1:56:08] re doing, do they work
[1:56:09] with us and listen to the
[1:56:11] residents on that. And I think
[1:56:11] that
[1:56:12] s a huge step in the right
[1:56:13] direction for all of the stuff
[1:56:14] we
[1:56:15] ve talked about today. Um,
[1:56:16] so, you know, as a result,
[1:56:17] we
[1:56:18] re taking the chicanes out
[1:56:19] with the help of the ymc. We
[1:56:20] came together to put up a stop.
[1:56:20] We
[1:56:21] re going to be putting a
[1:56:22] stop sign, um, and we
[1:56:22] ll go
[1:56:23] back and we
[1:56:23] ll check and see
[1:56:24] how that
[1:56:24] s working. Pedestrian
[1:56:26] island in there, everything. Um,
[1:56:26] so I think that
[1:56:27] s something,
[1:56:27] you know, I, I
[1:56:28] m sure you
[1:56:28] didn
[1:56:28] t want to toot your own
[1:56:29] horn, but I
[1:56:29] m gonna toot it for
[1:56:31] you. I think I really
[1:56:32] appreciate that.
[1:56:33] The staff is going in that
[1:56:34] direction with all these, these
[1:56:35] safety measures and listening
[1:56:36] to our residents and, and what
[1:56:37] they
[1:56:37] re having to say.
[1:56:44] Um,
[1:56:46] I think, you know, I, I think
[1:56:48] those ideas, signal timing,
[1:56:50] dilemma zones, bike boxes, bike
[1:56:51] markings, ped crossing
[1:56:52] enhancements. I think you
[1:56:53] re
[1:56:54] referring to the csap, which is
[1:56:55] on here, and I
[1:56:55] m, I
[1:56:55] m really
[1:56:56] happy that we
[1:56:56] re doing it. I
[1:56:57] know the staff will bring all
[1:56:59] of those back to us.
[1:57:00] As urgently as possible.
[1:57:00] Obviously, that
[1:57:00] s why we
[1:57:01] re
[1:57:02] here, because these things are
[1:57:04] a top priority in the city, so.
[1:57:07] As they come back, uh, I
[1:57:07] ll
[1:57:08] please keep bringing them back
[1:57:09] as quickly as possible, but I
[1:57:09] think you
[1:57:09] re already doing that,
[1:57:11] and I expect that to continue.
[1:57:11] So thank you.
[1:57:16] Um,
[1:57:17] Up here mentioned several times
[1:57:18] was the city crossing guards
[1:57:21] was on the site, um.
[1:57:21] I
[1:57:22] m gonna reach out to a few
[1:57:25] people, you know, I, I, we, we
[1:57:27] approved all 14, um,
[1:57:27] And I
[1:57:28] m gonna say all the
[1:57:29] people here who are coming here
[1:57:31] to talk about it. Join me at a
[1:57:32] school board meeting and let
[1:57:32] s
[1:57:34] ask them.
[1:57:36] If they can, instead of firing
[1:57:37] Larry, move him to someplace
[1:57:39] that we have open this year or
[1:57:39] a site that
[1:57:40] s on this map, like,
[1:57:42] rather than get rid of.
[1:57:44] 3 or 4 good employees who are
[1:57:45] doing a great job and great
[1:57:46] service to the community. Let
[1:57:46] s
[1:57:47] go to the school board and say,
[1:57:48] hey, city council
[1:57:48] s gonna pay
[1:57:49] for this.
[1:57:49] We
[1:57:51] ve already agreed to it.
[1:57:51] Let
[1:57:52] s reallocate these people.
[1:57:52] Let
[1:57:54] s not get rid of them.
[1:57:55] Um, so if you want to join me
[1:57:56] in that, please send me an
[1:57:57] email. Let
[1:57:57] s talk about it.
[1:57:57] Let
[1:57:58] s do it. Let
[1:57:58] s go to the
[1:57:59] school board, ask why that
[1:58:00] happened, and let
[1:58:00] s make sure
[1:58:00] that
[1:58:01] s still going forward
[1:58:02] because we
[1:58:02] re all working
[1:58:04] together, the schools residents
[1:58:05] and us, and we want to make
[1:58:06] that happen. So, um, I think
[1:58:07] that
[1:58:07] s an important question.
[1:58:08] It needs to, it
[1:58:08] s worth
[1:58:10] mentioning, um,
[1:58:11] You know, it
[1:58:11] s great that
[1:58:12] there
[1:58:14] s a, uh,
[1:58:15] GoFundMe for Larry the crossing
[1:58:17] guard. Uh, I hope they make it.
[1:58:19] He seems to be a great guy, and
[1:58:20] attribute to the community, um,
[1:58:20] whether it
[1:58:21] s political or not,
[1:58:21] it doesn
[1:58:22] t matter. He
[1:58:22] s a great
[1:58:23] guy. Um, but let
[1:58:23] s get him his
[1:58:26] job back.
[1:58:26] Let
[1:58:29] s do it. Um, so, I, I would
[1:58:32] push for that. Um.
[1:58:32] I
[1:58:33] ll give you another quick
[1:58:35] story. I visited my dad this
[1:58:36] year, um.
[1:58:39] In his town, which is a pretty
[1:58:44] small town. Um, and, um,
[1:58:46] Country roads, uh.
[1:58:48] Not a pedestrian in sight,
[1:58:51] probably not a cyclist in sight,
[1:58:52] um.
[1:58:52] Just the roads you want to have
[1:58:54] like.
[1:58:56] You know, fast rental car and
[1:58:58] hit the gas and go down. Um,
[1:58:59] speed limits are all 30 miles
[1:59:04] an hour. Everyone goes 29.
[1:59:05] And, and you won
[1:59:05] t find anybody
[1:59:06] speeding.
[1:59:08] You know how the city pays its
[1:59:09] taxes?
[1:59:12] Tickets.
[1:59:14] You go, you go 31 miles an hour
[1:59:15] and you
[1:59:15] re, we
[1:59:15] re watching
[1:59:17] sirens in the back window,
[1:59:19] pulling you over, um, you know,
[1:59:20] it, it as much as we don
[1:59:21] t want
[1:59:23] to become enforcement centric,
[1:59:25] it, it, it makes a difference.
[1:59:25] And it, it
[1:59:26] s, we just have to,
[1:59:27] the reality of it is it makes a
[1:59:30] big difference. Um, I, I
[1:59:32] absolutely support, uh, the,
[1:59:33] the, and the two deputies are
[1:59:35] looking for what the needs are,
[1:59:36] what we can afford, when we can
[1:59:37] afford them, um, and moving
[1:59:39] forward and, and really, I know
[1:59:40] that our, our sheriff
[1:59:40] s
[1:59:41] department is very responsible
[1:59:42] in telling us what their needs
[1:59:43] are.
[1:59:44] And we
[1:59:45] re dedicated to making
[1:59:46] sure that those needs are there
[1:59:47] so you can do your job
[1:59:48] effectively. So I, I fully
[1:59:49] support, uh, the mayor
[1:59:49] s idea
[1:59:50] on that. I think that
[1:59:51] s really
[1:59:52] great. Um,
[1:59:54] I would like to add, I, I
[1:59:54] d
[1:59:56] like to see us approach other
[1:59:58] cities and the county because I
[1:59:59] think the county is a big part
[2:00:01] of this, uh,
[2:00:03] To have a a real healthy
[2:00:04] discussion about entry points
[2:00:05] within the city, because I,
[2:00:05] what I
[2:00:06] ve heard a lot of times
[2:00:07] up here from our people who
[2:00:07] ve
[2:00:09] come up, um, Michael Durancy
[2:00:09] s
[2:00:10] mentioned it, you know, people
[2:00:11] come up and they
[2:00:11] re entering
[2:00:12] the city quick.
[2:00:14] And how do we, how do we
[2:00:15] address that? And I think
[2:00:16] that
[2:00:16] s something we have to
[2:00:17] partner with. And, and I don
[2:00:17] t
[2:00:18] know if that
[2:00:18] ll happen
[2:00:19] overnight, but we gotta start
[2:00:20] the conversation. So let
[2:00:20] s
[2:00:21] start the conversation. Let
[2:00:21] s
[2:00:22] be the ones who start it.
[2:00:24] Um, so I, I, I
[2:00:24] m gonna look to,
[2:00:26] to the mayor to help, you know,
[2:00:26] let
[2:00:27] s craft something together
[2:00:28] to go to the other the other
[2:00:30] mayors, the county supervisor,
[2:00:30] and let
[2:00:30] s, let
[2:00:31] s write a letter
[2:00:31] that says, hey, we want to get
[2:00:32] going on this and see what they
[2:00:33] wanna do.
[2:00:37] Um,
[2:00:40] Lastly, you know, I think.
[2:00:42] We try to silo issues up here a
[2:00:43] lot of times, and, and it
[2:00:43] s
[2:00:45] natural, it happens because
[2:00:45] you
[2:00:46] re talking about a very
[2:00:48] specific project or a very
[2:00:49] specific outcome.
[2:00:51] And
[2:00:53] I want to implore everybody up
[2:00:54] here who
[2:00:55] It
[2:00:55] s here because they
[2:00:56] re upset
[2:00:57] about
[2:00:59] Traffic and traffic measures
[2:01:01] and traffic safety.
[2:01:01] It
[2:01:03] s not just traffic safety.
[2:01:03] It
[2:01:05] s a multitude of issues. I,
[2:01:08] i urge you to.
[2:01:10] Find out, ask the state, hey,
[2:01:11] this, this housing mandate is
[2:01:13] creating a dangerous situation
[2:01:13] in our city.
[2:01:15] Why?
[2:01:17] What are we doing? What are we
[2:01:18] trying to do? Get involved in
[2:01:19] other issues. E-bikes, we just
[2:01:20] spent
[2:01:22] Hour and a half last time
[2:01:23] talking about e-bikes and the
[2:01:24] management of it and the
[2:01:26] challenges of it, um, get
[2:01:27] involved in the e-bike
[2:01:29] conversation. Um, there are
[2:01:30] multiple layers of any
[2:01:31] discussion we have up here, and
[2:01:31] I
[2:01:32] m only hitting those because
[2:01:32] we
[2:01:33] re talking about traffic
[2:01:34] today, um, but there
[2:01:34] s multiple,
[2:01:36] multiple areas we can go to
[2:01:36] rather than silo over let
[2:01:38] s
[2:01:38] realize everything is
[2:01:39] interconnected, um, and look at
[2:01:40] it. That
[2:01:40] s the way I know
[2:01:41] council looks at it from every,
[2:01:42] all 5 of us out there, city
[2:01:43] manager office and our staff
[2:01:45] are trying to work things every
[2:01:46] interconnecting in that
[2:01:48] holistic approach. Um um.
[2:01:49] But I think that
[2:01:49] s where part
[2:01:50] of where we have to go and look
[2:01:52] at those questions. Otherwise
[2:01:53] they become too simple and they
[2:01:53] become black and white, and
[2:01:54] these are not black and white
[2:01:56] issues. These are very gray
[2:01:57] issues of how do we get the
[2:01:59] best outcome. Some of it is the
[2:02:00] responsibility, as you
[2:02:00] re
[2:02:01] hearing the responsibility of
[2:02:02] the driver. Some of it is
[2:02:03] responsibility of the, some of
[2:02:04] it is the infrastructure, and
[2:02:06] we want to address all that the
[2:02:07] best we can. You know, I think,
[2:02:08] um,
[2:02:10] Just to reiterate the, the
[2:02:12] e-bike discussion did include a
[2:02:13] large portion of education. I
[2:02:14] know the city, um, and this
[2:02:14] elsewhere wasn
[2:02:15] t in there. So
[2:02:15] you
[2:02:16] re gonna move forward with
[2:02:17] some educational pieces and I
[2:02:17] m
[2:02:19] Sure that all traffic mode
[2:02:20] modalities will be included in
[2:02:21] that educational piece that
[2:02:23] came out of the e-bike
[2:02:24] conversation. So, um,
[2:02:24] I
[2:02:26] m
[2:02:29] This job will never end, and we
[2:02:29] won
[2:02:31] t rest until we get
[2:02:33] Safest sea as we can possibly
[2:02:34] get.
[2:02:35] And the safest city will be
[2:02:37] with the least possible deaths
[2:02:38] we can get across the way. If
[2:02:39] if it
[2:02:40] s 0, great. If it
[2:02:40] s 1,
[2:02:41] great, we want it to be as
[2:02:43] close to 0 as we can get it
[2:02:43] though, and we
[2:02:43] re always going
[2:02:44] to be moving forward. And even
[2:02:45] when we think we
[2:02:45] ve got it
[2:02:46] right.
[2:02:46] We
[2:02:48] re all committed to moving
[2:02:48] forward. That
[2:02:49] s staff, city
[2:02:50] manager
[2:02:50] s department, uh, as
[2:02:52] well as our, our council. I
[2:02:52] m
[2:02:55] sure any future council, um,
[2:02:55] whether it
[2:02:56] s 4 years from now,
[2:02:57] 10 years from now, 20 years
[2:02:58] from now, it
[2:02:58] s always gonna be,
[2:02:59] you, you, you don
[2:03:00] t, you don
[2:03:00] t
[2:03:00] sit in these seats and hear the
[2:03:02] things we hear and talk to the
[2:03:04] residents every day and not
[2:03:05] prioritize this. So, um, I, I
[2:03:06] m
[2:03:06] really grateful everybody came
[2:03:07] up here. Hopefully, you, you
[2:03:09] feel all the shared concerns,
[2:03:10] um.
[2:03:12] That we have with all of you.
[2:03:14] Um, I think I wanna compliment
[2:03:14] staff, sheriff
[2:03:15] s department,
[2:03:16] and the city manager
[2:03:17] s office
[2:03:19] really acting. Obviously, um,
[2:03:22] This is, this is.
[2:03:24] Well, bad pun, a long road
[2:03:24] ahead still, and we
[2:03:24] re going to
[2:03:26] keep going. So, um, thank you
[2:03:27] to everybody for participating.
[2:03:27] Thank you for coming out
[2:03:29] tonight.
[2:03:31] Ok. Um, so, uh, I think I
[2:03:32] ve
[2:03:33] got a couple of actions that
[2:03:34] I
[2:03:35] ve heard a specific actions.
[2:03:38] Number one is to, uh, agendaize
[2:03:39] the, uh, certainly within the
[2:03:41] framework of the, uh, the
[2:03:43] circulation element, goals and
[2:03:45] policies, uh, coming back and
[2:03:46] going through the
[2:03:47] recommendations in the local
[2:03:50] road safety plan and the
[2:03:52] comprehensive safety action
[2:03:53] plans, um, because they
[2:03:53] re,
[2:03:53] they
[2:03:53] re, they
[2:03:54] re slightly
[2:03:55] different and, and one
[2:03:55] s more
[2:03:57] focused on a handful of streets,
[2:03:58] uh, comprehensive plan really
[2:03:59] only looks.
[2:04:01] To the major streets and, um, I
[2:04:03] did have one question for, uh,
[2:04:04] council member Lyons. The
[2:04:06] 200,000, is that in the
[2:04:08] comprehensive safety action
[2:04:08] plan. I, I didn
[2:04:09] t see that in
[2:04:09] there. No, it
[2:04:10] s, uh, it
[2:04:10] s in
[2:04:13] the local road safety plan. Um,
[2:04:15] I did not, uh, yeah, it
[2:04:16] s page
[2:04:18] 45. Ok, page 45.
[2:04:20] And, and so I think there
[2:04:21] s
[2:04:24] gonna be more detailed
[2:04:25] directives coming out of there,
[2:04:26] you know, one thing that I
[2:04:26] m
[2:04:27] looking for, and I think it
[2:04:29] came up tonight multiple times
[2:04:31] is the RRFBs and how can we
[2:04:33] make them safer because quite
[2:04:34] frankly, I, I.
[2:04:34] I
[2:04:35] m not sure I
[2:04:36] ve, I
[2:04:36] ve seen
[2:04:37] examples where I think we even
[2:04:38] talked to the others talked
[2:04:40] about it. Uh, the people don
[2:04:41] t
[2:04:41] necessarily stop for them.
[2:04:41] They
[2:04:42] re not sure what to do on
[2:04:44] a flashing yellow. So, but, but
[2:04:46] there is actually in the uh
[2:04:48] comprehensive safety action
[2:04:51] plan, there is a uh
[2:04:53] implementation strategy 3.2.
[2:04:53] I
[2:04:54] m sorry, uh, there, there was
[2:04:55] one in there that talks about
[2:04:56] this, also talks about
[2:04:58] increased use of uh.
[2:05:00] Speed signs and so, so this is,
[2:05:02] this is a I opened this up.
[2:05:03] This is a multivariable. There
[2:05:05] are quite a few different
[2:05:08] moving objects or moving, uh,
[2:05:11] Task tasks moving forward, uh,
[2:05:12] and we
[2:05:13] re not slowing any
[2:05:14] others down. In other words,
[2:05:15] red light cameras, that
[2:05:15] ll be
[2:05:18] agenda, uh, we, we have quite a
[2:05:20] few others occurring. And, uh,
[2:05:21] we, we will continue forward,
[2:05:26] but, uh, so agendaizing the
[2:05:29] lrsp and and and csap and then
[2:05:32] uh also work with the, uh,
[2:05:34] City manager and sheriff on,
[2:05:34] I
[2:05:35] ll say the need, the
[2:05:39] logistics, and the funding for
[2:05:40] additional this is a
[2:05:41] multivariable. There are quite
[2:05:42] a few different. What is going
[2:05:44] on now.
[2:05:49] Welcome to the new world of sb
[2:05:50] 707 where we
[2:05:52] re broadcasting
[2:05:53] red light cameras, that
[2:05:54] ll be
[2:05:55] agenda. Can we, uh.
[2:05:55] You
[2:05:56] re a robot. You you guys
[2:05:57] had to hear me once. Now you
[2:06:00] gotta hear me twice. So sorry.
[2:06:02] Yeah.
[2:06:04] I, I always tell people, you
[2:06:06] know, the best it can hope for
[2:06:08] is nobody complaining. That
[2:06:08] s
[2:06:10] the pinnacle of performance. So,
[2:06:12] but hopefully, Warren, Warren
[2:06:12] s
[2:06:15] got me quieted down at my, my,
[2:06:17] uh, ai, uh, agent over there
[2:06:18] speaking for me.
[2:06:18] Um, i
[2:06:19] m gonna go back. Number 2
[2:06:22] is, uh, work with, uh, city
[2:06:24] manager and sheriff on the, uh,
[2:06:27] need, logistics and funding and
[2:06:28] funding for an and funding and
[2:06:28] funding for an additional 2 and
[2:06:29] funding and funding for an
[2:06:30] additional 2 traffic deputies
[2:06:32] likely at mid-year budget would
[2:06:34] be my guess. So, and then the
[2:06:34] thing we didn
[2:06:35] t talk about much,
[2:06:36] all those people mentioned it,
[2:06:38] is continue pushing the
[2:06:41] education, um, I, I went to the,
[2:06:42] uh, sheriff
[2:06:43] s, uh, meeting with
[2:06:45] the, with the city, the session.
[2:06:46] I thought it was excellent. I
[2:06:46] d
[2:06:47] like to see it repeated. I
[2:06:48] d
[2:06:48] like.
[2:06:50] To see it videotaped and, and
[2:06:53] add that as yet another
[2:06:54] education component, so I think
[2:06:56] those are the, the three
[2:06:57] actions out of this meeting,
[2:06:57] and I
[2:06:58] m sure there
[2:06:58] ll be more
[2:07:00] in short order I would add the
[2:07:02] for the circulation elephant
[2:07:04] separating the having a a safe
[2:07:06] travel lanes for the bikes.
[2:07:07] Some, something of that nature,
[2:07:08] just a, a, a proposed so we can
[2:07:09] have something to start with
[2:07:10] and go or, or do you, I, I
[2:07:13] would do that right in with the,
[2:07:16] uh, lrsp, uh, um, comprehensive
[2:07:18] safety action plan at that
[2:07:18] meeting, and we
[2:07:19] ll bring it up
[2:07:20] there and if we need to
[2:07:21] separate it out as a
[2:07:23] circulation as long as it comes
[2:07:24] back, but my plan was during
[2:07:26] that meeting to do everything
[2:07:27] within the framework and
[2:07:28] understand that we need to
[2:07:30] update any policies in the
[2:07:32] current circulation element. Ok.
[2:07:33] Yeah.
[2:07:36] With the, did you wanna? Ok
[2:07:37] ok, yes, thank you. All right,
[2:07:37] so I
[2:07:40] m just gonna recap, um, if
[2:07:41] that is the motion that goes
[2:07:42] forward. So, um, I will work
[2:07:43] with staff. Obviously, the
[2:07:45] local road safety plan was
[2:07:48] adopted back in AUGUST of 2022.
[2:07:50] Um, the comprehensive safety
[2:07:52] action plan was completed. It
[2:07:54] was brought to, I want to say
[2:07:55] the mobility and traffic Safety
[2:07:56] Commission in either APRIL or
[2:07:58] MAY of 2025. Ok, yep, I got my
[2:08:00] dates right. Dan is signaling
[2:08:02] me. Um, so obviously one has
[2:08:03] been done and adopted, another
[2:08:05] one has not been adopted by
[2:08:06] council but has been finished.
[2:08:07] So we will definitely bring
[2:08:09] those forward so council can
[2:08:10] see those and then depending on
[2:08:12] what comes out of that, we MAY
[2:08:13] have different asks because we
[2:08:14] did have consultants work on
[2:08:15] both of those to let you know.
[2:08:18] I can definitely work with um
[2:08:18] Captain.
[2:08:20] And my finance team to look at
[2:08:21] different financing and yes,
[2:08:22] Mayor, it would be mid-year
[2:08:24] cause because we need to get
[2:08:25] through our audit as we
[2:08:27] normally do and end of the year,
[2:08:28] um, so we can do that. And then
[2:08:29] as far as education, absolutely.
[2:08:32] And one of the things is we
[2:08:33] have additional funding, um, to
[2:08:35] work on bike education, um,
[2:08:37] with the MOUs with the schools,
[2:08:40] um, they did not, um, take the
[2:08:40] money. They didn
[2:08:41] t want to
[2:08:42] pursue the mou, so we do have
[2:08:43] additional funding. So we are
[2:08:45] going to use that for whether
[2:08:45] it
[2:08:46] s driver education, bike
[2:08:47] education, absolutely we
[2:08:47] re
[2:08:47] gonna use that.
[2:08:49] For that good as well. So I
[2:08:50] just wanted to circle that up
[2:08:52] if you guys make that.
[2:08:53] Ok.
[2:08:54] So I
[2:08:55] ll make that in the form
[2:08:57] of a motion and, uh.
[2:09:00] Second, I got a 2nd.
[2:09:01] You need to read it back, I
[2:09:04] think.
[2:09:04] So it
[2:09:06] s to agendaize at a
[2:09:08] future meeting to be determined
[2:09:09] as I thought I heard around
[2:09:11] OCTOBER if possible, yeah, as
[2:09:12] soon as possible, as soon as
[2:09:15] possible, uh, the lsrp and the
[2:09:16] csap to look at where we
[2:09:17] re at
[2:09:19] in new opportunities with that,
[2:09:20] um, also to work city manager
[2:09:21] to work with the sheriff
[2:09:21] s
[2:09:23] department.
[2:09:24] To explore the feasibility of
[2:09:25] adding two deputies at the
[2:09:28] mid-year budget.
[2:09:31] Yeah, the need, the need the,
[2:09:33] uh, um, logistics and funding
[2:09:35] and funding, ok, and then also
[2:09:37] to include an educational
[2:09:39] component to that at a minimum
[2:09:42] the, uh, uh, repeating the, the
[2:09:45] city.
[2:09:47] And Sheriff co-sponsored event
[2:09:49] and maybe even videotaping it
[2:09:49] so it
[2:09:50] s available.
[2:09:53] To be spread far and wide.
[2:09:57] Can I add, uh, Amendment 2, can
[2:09:59] we include, uh,
[2:10:00] Writing a letter to approach
[2:10:02] other cities in the county to
[2:10:03] discuss entry points.
[2:10:05] Absolutely. Ok.
[2:10:05] We
[2:10:07] ll include that as well. Ok,
[2:10:09] so those are the, that
[2:10:09] s the
[2:10:11] motion and the 2nd, call the
[2:10:17] question.
[2:10:19] That motion carries unanimously.
[2:10:24] And with that we are adjourned
[2:10:26] until 2:25 after or do we wanna
[2:10:26] go to?
[2:10:27] I, I know you guys, we
[2:10:28] ll go
[2:10:29] till 6:30, so we
[2:10:29] ll be, we
[2:10:30] ll.
[2:10:32] Uh, come back at 6:30.