1 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,800 hey it's two minutes until 2 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:39,399 how else would you do it because how you pay that rent no but i never see 3 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,399 anybody there except those parties 4 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:56,520 emily he's drunk with power i know yes he is there are some nights and is 5 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:56,520 the way i value my life 6 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,840 so 7 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:25,439 good evening everyone welcome to eustis city hall this is a regular city 8 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:30,560 commission meeting of the eustis city commission it is 6 p.m thursday 9 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,600 september the 8th 2022 at this time if you'd like to join us 10 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,640 for a moment of silence and the pledge of allegiance please stand 11 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,840 amen please join me in the pledge of 12 00:01:50,479 --> 00:01:58,240 allegiance i pledge allegiance the flag of the united states 13 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:04,560 of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god 14 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:08,759 indivisible with liberty and justice for all 15 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,759 thank you 16 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:18,000 go ahead and call our meeting to order christina sarah foreign president proper 17 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:23,760 note has been given yes thank you so much tom agenda updates yes uh two 18 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:28,959 things uh one the presentation on the budget and the millage scheduled 19 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:33,040 under 3.1 uh it makes more sense to do that at the time of the item and so we'd 20 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:37,760 like to do that just prior to 6.1 if that's okay absolutely 21 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:42,560 and then the other item i would like to take an opportunity to introduce the 22 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:48,000 artists who are exhibiting at city hall currently so i'd like to invite up wanda 23 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:51,840 pedrosa and vidal torres please come on up introduce yourselves 24 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:56,959 right here to the microphone in the center there folks 25 00:02:54,959 --> 00:03:00,560 okay thank you hi good evening my name is juan de 26 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:06,560 pedosa i'm nated from puerto rico 27 00:03:03,519 --> 00:03:10,480 but i'm a resident of eustis uh it's gonna be our fifth year 28 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:16,400 fifth year and we are artists and hand crafters and 29 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:23,200 we will we love to share all our knowledge with the 30 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:26,959 community in eustace that's why we came and offered 31 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:32,560 to display our art um also in celebration of the hispanic 32 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:36,239 heritage month that is from september to october 33 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:40,280 so i hope you enjoy our art and i don't know 34 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:46,159 you want to say something else [Laughter] 35 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,400 your artwork is absolutely your artwork is absolutely beautiful we thank you for 36 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:54,400 sharing it with us and we look forward to hopefully showcasing you all some 37 00:03:52,159 --> 00:04:00,959 more throughout the year yes and we're looking forward to keep working with you 38 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:00,959 uh and the theory of justice thank 39 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:07,120 [Applause] 40 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,400 we do appreciate 41 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:22,000 that you give us the opportunity to be here 42 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:27,360 and to share with the city of eustis 43 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:30,240 our art in appreciation 44 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:33,840 we we like to give you 45 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,040 the poster of the 46 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:43,720 exhibit we are one all right thank you so much 47 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:43,720 we appreciate that 48 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:55,800 thank you so much it's really nice 49 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,800 very nice 50 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,600 george there okay do we all give george a quarter 51 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:18,320 this is like a cruise ship you at the end you can come up and pick them up and 52 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:22,560 buy them three two one three 53 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,440 two one thank you thank you george thank you 54 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,440 all so much 55 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:39,440 all right moving on down next we have approval of minutes we have on our 56 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:45,520 agenda tonight the june 28 2022 city commission budget workshop the june 30th 57 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:50,960 2022 city commission budget workshop and the august 18 2022 city commission 58 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:56,800 cemetery workshop looking for approval for the approval of 59 00:05:53,600 --> 00:06:01,680 the june 28 june 30th august 18th minutes thank you ma'am 60 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:05,680 thank you sir any further discussion not hearing any roll call please vice 61 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:10,479 mayor lee aye commissioner lahoop smith aye commissioner cobb aye commissioner 62 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:13,919 hawkins aye mayor holland aye next we have presentations which we have moved 63 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,600 over to the uh further down in the agenda so now we 64 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,479 come down to audience to be heard if you'd like to speak to the commission 65 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:24,319 about something that's not on the agenda this is your opportunity you get three 66 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:28,319 minutes please give us your name when you come forward 67 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:32,520 tom anybody yes i have a card from cindy newton all right hi cindy 68 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:42,240 good evening cindy newton i'm in unincorporated 69 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:46,000 lake county district four and i just wanted to thank mayor holland 70 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,960 for sitting in on the panel for the recent double acp part 3 71 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:55,759 citizens town hall meeting on lake county's population explosion 72 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,960 it was an excellent meeting it went so well the 73 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:07,120 sitting there listening and having input and just observing 74 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:11,319 various leaders from not only the county but 75 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,759 several municipalities 76 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,319 and they had such a unity in 77 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,080 thoughts and 78 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:29,440 direction for the area and it was 79 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:35,319 uplifting it was encouraging and greatly appreciate it i just want to thank you 80 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,319 thank you i appreciate that 81 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:51,360 okay uh gail isaac thomas 82 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:55,840 scale good evening 83 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:59,840 hi sasha hello how are you i just want to stand before you this 84 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:06,639 evening and say how much i appreciate it 85 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:10,840 being the volunteer for the cr east town 86 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:15,280 east used to cra rep for 87 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:20,879 three almost three and a half years but anyway 88 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:24,840 i just want to tell you all thank you i appreciate everything that 89 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,960 was done during my time as a representative 90 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:35,440 and pray and hope that things continue to improve 91 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:41,519 in east town and i also want to say congratulations 92 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:46,880 commissioner thank you to another year thank you thank you thank you gail thank 93 00:08:43,839 --> 00:08:52,000 you for your service anybody else tom so um we received a 94 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:56,640 card uh from gessner harris but she is not here 95 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:01,360 yet and she is on her way so i don't know what the will of the commission is 96 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,360 um 97 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:06,800 let's see where we are when guest new gets here i have a card from yolanda 98 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:12,080 taylor miss yolanda come on to the microphone how are you 99 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,839 good thank you for allowing me to still submit 100 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:20,560 yolanda taylor good evening commission board i'm 101 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:26,720 actually here as a regular resident in east town 806 liberty street 102 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,760 actually stood before the board and we talked about bears 103 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:36,959 we talked about bears and i know we discussed a few things as far as signs 104 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:41,680 and trash cans and things of that nature and i'm aware that some of the 105 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:45,360 commissioning board also is aware of a safety issue as far as bears are 106 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,560 concerned with chasing individuals in the community 107 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,680 i am know 108 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:56,720 for sure that the individual that got chased by the bear 109 00:09:54,080 --> 00:10:02,240 actually lives next door to a relative of mine that has two little babies 110 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:06,880 and also next to a very close relative of mine who has 111 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:10,640 seven babies in that home so now are we not dealing with trash but we're also 112 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:14,000 dealing with safety okay 113 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:19,680 i understand that the residents had the opportunity to contact animal control 114 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:25,360 and wildlife and they were given keys or excuse me locks for their trash can 115 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:29,519 currently we have approximately two individuals in the neighborhood who have 116 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:33,760 these locks so my next question is whether or not is that the 117 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:37,200 possible direction that we should take if we should just be contacting wildlife 118 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:41,519 to make sure that we not only have the locks for the can 119 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:45,120 but we're looking at a safety issue and usually when we're dealing with safety 120 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:49,519 with animals they come out with capture to capture 121 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:53,760 so i don't know exactly where we are or where to go with that 122 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:58,160 yeah and again we understand animals are going to be here right they're 123 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:02,160 everywhere i don't like lizards if i could call somebody to get every 124 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,680 lizard i would please just take them away 125 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:10,480 i don't like lizards but i mean there's nothing i can do about it okay um 126 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:14,640 however when we are now dealing with safety and especially when the bears 127 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:18,560 come out when it's still daylight okay and we have little babies 128 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,320 and the little babies are starting to chase humans 129 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,600 okay all right um 130 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:30,079 yeah so i just wanted to revisit that again for sure 131 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:33,120 um i know and i have faith that we will be able to get some level of assistance 132 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:37,279 i do believe and am aware that we may be receiving 133 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,839 assistance just wanted to bring that to the board again in attention okay all 134 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,560 right thank you i can maybe give a little update on 135 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:48,560 that um and so the commission had said 136 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:53,040 contact waste management waste management 137 00:11:50,959 --> 00:11:57,839 does have a program they said the only municipality that's 138 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:03,120 participating right now is mount dora waste management will go out and buy the 139 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,120 bear proof cans 140 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,279 they [Music] 141 00:12:04,959 --> 00:12:12,320 well i'm sorry waste management will buy them on behalf of the city the city will 142 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:15,920 pay for those cans the city can then determine how to 143 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,920 distribute those cans mount dora chooses to pass that cost 144 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:24,399 along to the customer so mount dora pays for a bear proof can 145 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,480 if a customer requests it mount dora charges the customer for the cost of 146 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:32,560 that cam in talking to jose at waste management 147 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:38,399 the cost of the can right now is about 250 dollars for a bear proof can 148 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:42,320 now commissioner hawkins recently was in touch with some folks from 149 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:49,200 fish and wildlife they have 150 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:53,279 kind of like a strap or buckle solution they i contacted waste management and 151 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:57,760 said do you have any experience with these straps or buckles does it make it 152 00:12:55,519 --> 00:13:01,040 difficult for you to pick up trash and waste management said we have no 153 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,800 experience with what fish and wildlife is talking about 154 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:09,440 and so where commissioner hawkins and i left it was maybe we need to get 155 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:14,800 waste management operations folks with fish and wildlife 156 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:18,399 to see if this is a viable solution and it's something that's workable and 157 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:22,560 allows waste management to continue to pick up the trash 158 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:26,240 and so we can do that i think waste management would be i'm 159 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:29,040 sorry i think fish and wildlife would be asking us 160 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:35,200 to bear the cost of those those straps and buckles and i 161 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:38,639 think it's a reasonable cost and it's whether we pass that on to the 162 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,120 customer is something that we would have to talk about 163 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:45,839 so i think it's it would be cost effective 164 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:50,000 we just don't quite know yet if it's something that waste management can work 165 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:54,000 with if waste management can't you pick up the trash they're not going to allow 166 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,279 that to be used um and so 167 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:02,800 at this point i think we just have to do a little bit more work on it yeah i 168 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,240 think that um that that is 169 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:11,839 something that uh fish and wildlife said they would they 170 00:14:08,079 --> 00:14:16,959 would make for us if we wanted it but that being said if it was something 171 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:20,399 that we we could do we would have to get the word out to 172 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,680 every resident there that 173 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:31,440 they would have to make sure on the day of trash pickup that they unbuckle 174 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,720 their their trash cans because if not it may not get picked up and then 175 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:38,320 you know there'll be complaints about them so we 176 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:41,440 just need to we got to take the steps to get 177 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:45,440 everything done and then when the time comes you and i will go out and we'll 178 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,560 walk the neighborhood and we'll tell everybody what they need to do 179 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:53,680 okay all right thank you willy thank you tom 180 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:59,680 so uh yolanda submitted another card on another issue i don't know what the will 181 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:02,079 of the commission is go ahead real quick come on 182 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,920 thank you again yolanda taylor 183 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:13,199 this time i'm actually here for the east town community redevelopment 184 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:19,920 incorporated i'm actually here to briefly discuss 185 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:24,839 code enforcement at the last meeting there were a few 186 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:30,560 concerns as far as code enforcement is concerned i had the opportunity to speak 187 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:34,959 with mr eric martin to just to educate myself because that's what we want to do 188 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:39,199 we want to be able to educate and have a better understanding 189 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,519 and some of the findings that i found out were eyebrow raising so i need you 190 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,320 guys's help and direction on that and see how is it 191 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:51,279 that we can proceed from here just to give an example some of the 192 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,040 questions as far as how is it that we decide the sliding scale of 193 00:15:53,839 --> 00:15:59,680 between the two 25 dollars to the 250 dollars of fees 194 00:15:58,079 --> 00:16:03,519 that is that are applied based on infraction there isn't necessarily a 195 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,040 standard scale this is just something based on from 196 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,320 what i was told what we may decide 197 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:14,959 that particular fee is so my eyebrow razor is shouldn't we 198 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:18,639 possibly have something in place that is a 199 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:22,639 sliding scale based on the infraction if it's something that's um 200 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:26,079 you know detrimental if it's safety then of course it gets a higher end if it's 201 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:29,440 something that's level is grass it may fall within a certain bracket where it 202 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:33,920 may be on the level end that's not necessarily something that's in place 203 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,279 now my next concern was about finding out the information as far as code 204 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:41,120 enforcement liens and issues that we have in the community 205 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:45,440 right now currently the only way that we can find it out is just by going and 206 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:49,360 looking on the board not everyone is posted nor is it anywhere else 207 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:55,199 researchable for the community to find out so my position here is to see 208 00:16:53,199 --> 00:16:58,959 how is it that we can come up with a better way to one educate 209 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:03,440 our residents whether that's through the organization so we can learn a little 210 00:17:01,199 --> 00:17:07,039 bit more as far as the processes and coming up with a better way as far as 211 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:12,079 how is it that we are notified of the infractions and how the fees are applied 212 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:17,120 and how we determine how much is applied per 213 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:22,160 infraction versus it just being based off emotion today you know i feel 214 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:27,919 like it's going to be 75 a day tomorrow it might be 250 today there's not 215 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:32,559 anything that's concrete as far as a guide 216 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:35,360 so that's an issue especially in the in the area 217 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:38,480 where can somebody please get that from me 218 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:43,200 um in the area where we are losing land we're losing property 219 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:47,039 and it's our job to make sure that we make sure our residents know what's 220 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:51,360 going on and i'm in that position to help to do so okay 221 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:57,039 i'm going to ask you to schedule a meeting with tom and with mike okay and 222 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:00,799 sit down and talk to them when i was on the code enforcement board we had some 223 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,720 set fees and i believe that code enforcement 224 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:08,960 board does have set fees of what when they when somebody comes in front of 225 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:13,679 them and willie you were on it prior to coming on the commission there 226 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:18,559 there is uh that document that shows them a sliding scale so 227 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:22,480 if you will get with those gentlemen let them sit down with you and meet with you 228 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:27,039 because i have i have concerns with code enforcement as well yeah and we want to 229 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,880 be able to help to make sure that we all know what's going on correct okay if 230 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:34,720 you'll just schedule a meeting with tom and with mike they can sit down with you 231 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,720 and go over that and get you an answer all right thank you 232 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:45,039 okay thank you so much ms gessner i saw you walk in and i know you've got a card 233 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,039 in already you want to come up ma'am 234 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:57,440 how are you tonight fine good later vice mayor commissioners 235 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:03,600 i just came up i would like to make a maybe suggestion 236 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,360 recently we rented the building out at carver park the 237 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:13,200 garden room and in renting the building they were 238 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:17,120 having a football game and for the football game we gave to the 239 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,039 cheerleaders we bought uniforms and all that 240 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:24,720 but when you're renting the building 241 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:28,640 it is my suggestion if they would rope off 242 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:33,760 the parking lot for the people that are renting the building 243 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:38,640 if the building is not being rented it's open for free parking 244 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:42,480 but if you have paid 50 an hour to rent a building and you 245 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:46,960 get there and there's no parking it's kind of embarrassing 246 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:52,240 we had people from far as the bahamas and they came in here elderly people 247 00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:57,120 could not even drop the food off we were trying to park side the streets going in 248 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:01,679 a ditch to bring the food in and it's just a suggestion in the future 249 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:06,160 that if you're renting the building i understand why they didn't want to rent 250 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:10,960 it now because that's probably why but if we're bringing revenue in by renting 251 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:16,400 the building i could not see not letting us rent the building which we 252 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:21,120 really did appreciate yes ma'am and that's a lot of us yes yes you have our 253 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:25,200 condolences for the loss in your family and we're sorry if it embarrassed you in 254 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:28,880 any way all right thank you ma'am we'll take it under advisement thank you 255 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:35,840 anybody else tom um 256 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,840 dorothy stevenson miss dorothy 257 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:48,400 i forgot to say there's an overflow parking which we were told that's down 258 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:51,440 there if they would take a sign maybe and put overflow parking 259 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,480 they told us to use that but i think they can 260 00:20:53,760 --> 00:21:01,679 use that gotcha thank you ma'am hello miss dorothy good evening board members 261 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:05,280 i'm dorothy stevenson liberty street 262 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:09,360 first of all i would like to thank my mayor for taking 263 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:14,400 making sure i was okay doing my surgery thank you so much you're welcome and uh 264 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:18,880 grand opening was awesome thank you for that also and 265 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,120 i just want to address again i want gail to know 266 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,880 how much we appreciate the service that you did 267 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:28,080 for us while you was on the board 268 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:33,520 you know you did all that you could and knew how 269 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:37,280 to do and i want to thank you publicly for doing what you did 270 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:40,799 and you know we are community 271 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:47,840 and if love is supposed to be a community and 272 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:52,720 if we show each other love and respect that's all we can do and i just want to 273 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:55,440 say thank you all thank you and 274 00:21:53,600 --> 00:22:00,240 the issues about the bear and pardon bears too so i'm a part of all the 275 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:05,039 issues that's going on so everything that you're here listening to 276 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:12,600 is a part of me also and i want to thank and hope we all have 277 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,600 listeners thank you thank you 278 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:18,240 anybody else tom that's all i have as far as cards thank you anybody else like 279 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:23,039 to address the commission on anything that's not on the agenda this evening 280 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:28,000 not seen anything we're going to go ahead down to the consent agenda there 281 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:33,440 are three items on the consent agenda this evening is there anything anybody 282 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,440 would like pooled for discussion 283 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,799 not hearing i'm looking for a motion to accept the consent agenda 284 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:43,039 thank you ma'am thank you ma'am any further discussion 285 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:48,159 not hearing any roll call please vice mayor lee aye commissioner hope smith 286 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:53,360 aye commissioner cobb aye commissioner hawkins aye mayor holland aye madam 287 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:57,760 attorney thank you mr mayor um mr shepard will now present on the 288 00:22:55,360 --> 00:23:01,600 tentative millage levy of the ad valorem taxes and the tentative budget for the 289 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,000 city of eustis thank you ma'am mayor 290 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,120 members of commission mike shepard finance director 291 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,880 i'd like to first thank you all for your participation in 292 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,000 this whole process and i have 293 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:18,880 nellie harnish and joy mackenzie who have done a lot of 294 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,360 work in getting this thing put together so 295 00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:23,840 it's been a pleasure 296 00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:27,039 how does this work 297 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:39,840 we're getting close to the end of it we have this meeting 298 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:42,559 and one more meeting to to meet for reading the budget and the tentative 299 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,200 millage and we'll be doing that and then we will 300 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:51,440 advertise we have to advertise that on the 19th which is a sunday paper 301 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:55,600 it'll be in the daily commercial and uh that's required by law 302 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,520 uh after the 303 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:04,159 next thursday or two thursdays from now we will be 304 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:07,840 certifying by the 27th we have to certify to the property appraiser what 305 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,640 the millage will be and 306 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:16,080 the adoptive budget will be distributed in october 1 307 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:16,080 will have a new budget 308 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:23,919 these are a list of the major funds uh that we have the biggest two are uh have 309 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,559 to do with general fund water and sewer water and sewers made up of three or 310 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:29,919 four different 311 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:35,919 separate funds but combined uh the methodology it 312 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,880 will be this is how all of it will be presented you'll have two years of 313 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,640 history uh you'll have the adopted budget from 314 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:46,880 last year you'll have the projected budget for this year and then the 315 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:51,760 proposed this gives you a list of 316 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,440 where we started from and the different uh 317 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:59,279 things that we discussed and and changes that we made to the budget to 318 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:01,840 get to where the bottom line where we're at right now 319 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:08,640 and each of the funds that had a anything changing is listed there 320 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,679 these are some of the big items that we 321 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,559 had going through the 322 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:26,320 life and health insurance we got a 20 or two percent decrease 323 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,320 which is unheard of 324 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,159 the cola we were able to do a four percent 325 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:37,840 and then uh we also did a longevity which goes a half a percent per year up 326 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:43,440 to four years two percent max this will get us help get us closer to 327 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:47,200 what the other cities are doing so we're competitive and we're going to be in a 328 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:54,559 position maybe next year to be over the fifteen dollars an hour which 329 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:59,600 goes into effects on uh thinking 26 25. the other items uh 330 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:04,320 you know we we look at the the state revenues they make projections 331 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:08,000 we use what we are gathering now 332 00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:11,760 combine the two to get get the estimates for revenues 333 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,240 uh these are some of the things that uh 334 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:21,679 general liability insurance 10 was budgeted uh 335 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:25,279 the fire pension decreased a little bit uh from four one nine eight to four two 336 00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:31,440 nine four it's i'm sorry i just skipped a line 337 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:34,640 three nine two three eight three uh 338 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:40,159 small decrease and the police pension increased a little 339 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:45,360 uh a total of uh 4198-4294 for a slight increase of 10 000 340 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:51,039 we have a we're going to get three new officers resource officers so uh 341 00:26:48,559 --> 00:27:00,240 but in order to do that the school board is paying uh 246 000 or no 226 thousand 342 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:04,240 246 is going to be our approximate cost but we get we through that we'll get 343 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:07,440 more information on the students that are in there 344 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:11,919 and i already said that 345 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:16,000 this is just a summary of all the budget changes and 346 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:19,679 start with a beginning balance revenues expenditures less reserves that 347 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,840 are required and we get to unbalance 348 00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:28,559 for the end of 9 30 23. 349 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,799 this is just a representation pie chart for 350 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:36,159 the revenues that we're going to be receiving from all those funds 351 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,480 this will be the budgeted expenditures that we're going 352 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,480 to have from there 353 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,919 this is for the general fund it just shows the revenues that we have where it 354 00:27:45,679 --> 00:27:50,880 came from expenditures and where they can where they're going 355 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:59,600 we were proposing 7581 356 00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:04,480 for the millage rate the taxable value 357 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,480 that we have is 358 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:12,799 anyway that 359 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:16,480 we're proposing 7581 the 360 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,679 and it did go up a little bit from that time that this was made 361 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:26,360 then the the rollback rate 7.0064 362 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:35,919 and the maximum that we could do is 8.8 and again we're proposing 7581 would be 363 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,159 i think the ninth year that we've done that 364 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,679 this one here i've highlighted the ones that i'm going 365 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:49,440 to show you in the next screen this shows us 366 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:54,720 as far as the millage rate we're dead last 367 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:59,440 but uh so out of the 14 we're 14. however if you look at the functional 368 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:02,080 millage rate we're number two out of the 369 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,640 the four other ones that we're comparing ourselves to 370 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,159 they have the pretty much the same uh taxable 371 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:13,039 valuations and uh these are the other things they 372 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:17,840 have that show the village rate the transfers to the general fund we over 373 00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:21,760 here we show what the uh millage rate would be needed to to cover 374 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:26,320 that and then if they have a fire sentence assessment fee 375 00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:30,799 that millage rate is include so they're all added together 376 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:34,000 and we're we're number two uh right behind lady lake 377 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:43,679 this one here shows the per capita uh and as far as that goes uh the the 378 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,159 the number of citizens we have compared to the expenditure we have for the 379 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:50,960 general fund we're still number one and uh 380 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,200 goes to various leesburg and mount dora after that 381 00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,480 the uh this is a description of how the 382 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,799 it's the millage rate would be applied to a home 383 00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:08,880 if it's 150 000 you subtract 50 000 for homestead exemption 384 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:12,799 then you divide that amount 100 000 by 1000 whatever it comes out to be 385 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:20,799 divided by a thousand and then you multiply that by our 386 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,799 7.581 that gives you the taxable value 387 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,399 the uh hours of seven five seven hundred fifty 388 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:30,159 eight dollars and ten cents for every hundred thousand dollars 389 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:35,360 annual taxes and the rollback would be 700.64 390 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:41,120 which gives you a savings it would give the individual would get a savings of 57 391 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:45,600 dollars and 46 cents and that divided by 12 392 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:50,880 is about a cup of coffee the 393 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:55,279 the millage reduction while it may be it's a little bit for 394 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:58,799 money into the customer prop pockets 395 00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:03,360 but it means a lot to the city on the services we we provide because we have 396 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:07,279 police fire uh public works 397 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,760 uh development services legal and what have you 398 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:15,840 so all the administration so i think it's a good value 399 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:20,000 if you if you look at it uh these this is uh one mill would equal 400 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,240 one million three hundred twenty thousand 401 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:27,039 uh this this is a breakdown of the uh 402 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:33,480 percentage for each of the uh the budget items that we're looking at 403 00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:33,480 and uh 404 00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:39,679 okay this uh gives you the taxable values 405 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,840 over the last 10 years so you see the values have started 406 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:47,440 really going up uh and an oh i think it was 08 they they've 407 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,679 held to the bottom of the barrel 408 00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:55,519 so we're just we're getting above that and 409 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,960 hopefully it'll continue i'm sorry there was supposed to been one 410 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,240 more in there um 411 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,559 but that's 412 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,679 okay austin 413 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:16,559 okay well no i'm sorry there was a there was a per 414 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,320 capita i put that in there that was earlier 415 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:24,480 so if there's uh if there's any questions 416 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,120 uh i'll be happy to answer them um 417 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:31,840 most of you all of you have been involved with the whole process so 418 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,960 if anyone wants a copy of this a hard copy of this so i'll get it to you in a 419 00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:39,840 pdf or if anyone in the audience would like 420 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:43,760 one we'll give it to them and again 421 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:46,799 i want to thank all of you tom has been 422 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,480 instrumental in it and uh 423 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:55,039 so is natalie harness and again joy mackenzie 424 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,000 thank you any questions of life from the commission 425 00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:01,600 i'm not hearing anything mike thank you madam attorney back to 426 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,159 you ma'am thank you mr mayor we'll start with resolution number 22-61 427 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:10,159 a resolution by the city commission of the city of eustis lake county florida 428 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:15,519 adopting the tentative millage levy of ad valorem taxes for the city of eustis 429 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:21,600 lake county for the fiscal year of 2022 2023 providing for an effective date 430 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:25,519 yes are there any additional questions from the commission from mr shepherd 431 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,720 okay is there anyone in the the only thing i want to mention for the millage 432 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:33,840 rate is the uh rollback rate this the millage 433 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,840 rate that we're adopting is going to be 8.2 percent higher than the rollback 434 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:42,880 rate to make that clear 435 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:42,880 other than that the 436 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:50,559 first we're staying at this will cover us and we'll have a little bit left over 437 00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:53,519 hopefully at the end of the year anything further commission is there 438 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:59,760 anyone in the audience i would like to speak on resolution number 22-61 439 00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:02,000 okay seeing none public comment is closed 440 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:07,840 commissioners before us we have resolution number 22-61 what's the will 441 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,840 of our commission 442 00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:15,119 mr mayor i moved for approval of resolution number 22-61 thank you ma'am 443 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,720 i said thank you sir any further discussion 444 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:23,119 not hearing any roll call please vice mayor lee aye commissioner lahoop smith 445 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:29,599 aye commissioner cobb aye commissioner hawkins aye mayor holland hi 446 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:33,040 next we have resolution number 22-62 a resolution by the city commission of the 447 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,760 city of eustis lake county florida adopting the tentative budget for the 448 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:41,040 fiscal year 2021 through 2022 and providing for an effective date does the 449 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:46,240 commission have any questions for mr shepard on this i just 23. it's 22 23 450 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,240 sorry yeah i'm sorry all right well we'll correct that yeah i thought so 451 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:55,599 22-2021 2020. sorry 2022 2023. we'll correct 452 00:34:54,159 --> 00:35:00,079 that on the resolution okay 453 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:03,839 no additional questions or comments is there anyone in the audience that would 454 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,839 like to speak to this 455 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,800 saying none public comment is closed measures before us we have resolution 456 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:16,079 number 22-63 or 62 what's the will of our commission 457 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:21,599 mr mayor i mean for approval of resolution number 22-62 458 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:25,599 thank you ma'am hi second thank you sir any further discussion 459 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:27,680 not hearing any roll call please vice mayor lee 460 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,359 hi commissioner the hope smith aye 461 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:35,119 commissioner cobb hi commissioner hawkins 462 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,800 mayor holland aye thank you thank you mike thank you and please tell your team 463 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,680 upstairs thank you so much for all their hard work i'll see you in two weeks 464 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,839 thank you sir madam attorney thank you so much if i 465 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,640 i'm sorry if i could point out each of you has a binder of the tentative budget 466 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:55,359 that was just approved on uh with the resolution 467 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:59,200 this is tentative as of the approval on the 22nd you will then get an adopted 468 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,800 budget and so 469 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:07,359 it should look uh practically exactly the same but you will get a second 470 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:10,240 version of that once you approve it thank you 471 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:16,160 now we're coming down to other business first one is discussion of downtown and 472 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:20,400 east town redevelopment agency board representative positions tom you want to 473 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:24,160 lead us with that one sure i don't have a formal presentation 474 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,599 this is something that we had instituted a few 475 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,520 years ago periodically we review 476 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:35,520 the um the need for the position 477 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,760 i think with the resignation of gail isaac thomas the thought was maybe it's 478 00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:43,520 time to review this and so you have the staff report giving 479 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,280 some background and i will 480 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:51,440 turn it over to commission to see what your thoughts are on this thank you vice 481 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,440 mayor 482 00:36:52,800 --> 00:37:00,320 i i'm in my opinion i think that we should eliminate the positions there's 483 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:03,119 no voting um anybody can come up and speak to us at any time 484 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:09,839 um i don't see the value in it and i would 485 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,520 like to propose that we just eliminate those positions and if anybody has 486 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:18,880 something to do they come up to say they come up as usual as they usually do and 487 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:22,240 present it okay because if they they have no voting power if we're not going 488 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:27,599 to do that then i think that there's no point in us having two people assigned 489 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:32,720 and giving up time and have no clout so okay 490 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,720 karen um 491 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:39,599 well i liked having the position i 492 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:44,480 i agreed that it didn't need to have voting power but i liked having 493 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480 community 494 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:49,200 members up with us 495 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,760 and it gave people another 496 00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:56,640 source of someone to go to with their concerns 497 00:37:55,119 --> 00:38:01,119 so i'd like to see it stay on 498 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,640 i agree it doesn't need to be a voting position 499 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,040 but i like to have them up here with input 500 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:11,680 really um 501 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:16,079 i um i agree with karen i i think it's 502 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:22,800 important for the community to have uh 503 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:27,920 uh us say so uh to be involved uh i think in the last couple of months 504 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:34,000 there have been been positions available to come up and 505 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,160 we haven't had people that wanted to fill them 506 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:43,839 i think it's a stepping stone just like the code enforcement board 507 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:49,839 was a stepping stone for you and i i think it's a stepping stone to 508 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,839 you know to something bigger 509 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,760 although i don't agree that they should have voting power 510 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:59,680 because i think that only belongs to people that were voted on by the 511 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:05,280 majority of the uh people in the city 512 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,280 but i think it's important that 513 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:11,040 that the community has to say so and the community has the opportunity to be 514 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:14,400 involved uh 515 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:18,160 you know as much as possible so i think we should keep it 516 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,560 man well i see both sides i mean you know i 517 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:26,480 again i agree with you guys as well that i don't think it should be a voting 518 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,760 position because that's an elected position 519 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:36,560 by the residents of eustis so i i see that but 520 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:41,520 i see the same side of it as emily does that everybody always has an opinion no 521 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:46,400 one's ever not allowed to come before us 522 00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:50,000 and you're also allowed to approach us at any time you know you're 523 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:54,400 allowed to approach us at any time and yes it is hard enough to get volunteers 524 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,800 it's very hard you know not everybody wants to take time out 525 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:03,680 you know everyone's got a busy schedule 526 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,200 but i also see if you want to use this for a stepping stone as well i see that 527 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:12,000 too so it's never been a case of not having 528 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:16,720 a voice because everyone's always always has a voice again 529 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:20,000 but there is no voting power to it so you know what i'm saying you can come to 530 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,880 us at any time always 531 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,400 but you can't vote so it's going to really 532 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:30,560 determine you know whether you want to 533 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,839 i guess i hate i hate to use the word waste of time because that's not it it's 534 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,079 just taking time out of your busy schedule 535 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:42,160 you know so um 536 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:44,880 yeah it it it it's it's a difficult call and it's a tough call 537 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,800 but um again i i'm a firm believer and again 538 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,400 like everybody else you know that that voting situation needs to be an elected 539 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,119 official so um 540 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,680 you know i i think it's it's important you know gail was on it 541 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,119 for two or three years and 542 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:12,800 and there were people that went to her and they talked to her about 543 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:19,520 things in the community and then before they came to us and and i i just 544 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:23,200 think that this is it's important to have that connection with the with 545 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:27,440 the community and you know and we'd like to think that 546 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,480 they they everyone would come up and talk to us 547 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:36,079 but a lot of people would probably go talk to a community member before they 548 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:36,079 would come and talk to us 549 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:45,520 i agree but we are part of the community yeah i am used as i am one we are one 550 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:51,280 so i understand that too so i you know i never really understood the separation i 551 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:56,079 really never understood it we are one use this i never understood 552 00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:00,960 the separation the east and west i never but that was part of the original cra 553 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:06,319 set up so but that was done god two thousand 554 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:09,520 uh no it was um i can't i can't remember because you 555 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:13,280 know much that stuff i've read yeah it was um 556 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,880 2018 is when we created the two community 557 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:19,920 positions the cra was created that's what i'm 558 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,880 saying yeah i mean technically it's always been one cra okay when we created 559 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:28,480 the two community positions that's when we 560 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:33,520 center street and center street extended was kind of the line to make sure that 561 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:38,160 we had representation we did i mean again technically it's 562 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:43,599 always been one cra at one point we did the plan for downtown separate 563 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:47,040 from the plan for east town but it was always one cra 564 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:50,880 so so 565 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:56,240 the cra committee the the newly formed committee commission a committee 566 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:59,440 um or the little advisory situation to me 567 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:04,079 that's where that's another opportunity for the community to 568 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:09,040 to to speak to i didn't see in my recollection a lot of um 569 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:17,119 a lot of people going to it also to me means that it's less likely maybe we 570 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,880 need to be able to be able to speak to the community but it puts like another 571 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,800 person there and i would rather them come to me and 572 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,319 talk as a commissioner elected commissioner they would come 573 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:33,440 and voice and let me know what their concerns are they always can come up 574 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:37,920 here and talk but also i want to have that kind of interaction 575 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,599 rather than a person in the middle but 576 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:47,200 you know i'm that's just a suggestion on my part but that does concern me and i 577 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:51,599 don't like um the idea that we're not approachable 578 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:58,240 that's what it sounds like to me i think sometimes we're not approachable uh but 579 00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:05,680 i i don't think that please don't do that yeah i mean that that was 580 00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:05,680 yeah i i don't think that having um 581 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:13,200 having uh you know members from the community 582 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,839 hurts us in any way uh he doesn't hurt us no no he doesn't 583 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:21,280 have us so 584 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:27,359 uh i think that you know uh input from every source uh you know every avenue 585 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:30,400 that we have only helps us so again i think we should 586 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:36,560 i'm torn too because i can see both sides 587 00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:40,319 my recommendation would be to because it's what what's these four year 588 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,839 terms they're four year terms and they're staggered 589 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:47,839 maybe bring them back to one year and rotate it constantly 590 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:51,359 holy moly that's making staff look for somebody every 591 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:55,200 year people apply for it well people apply 592 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,440 for it yeah they apply 593 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,200 i i would rather see somebody stay on 594 00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:05,119 for four years because that gives them a 595 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:09,920 feel of of how it works and 596 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,880 you know i know all of us are new up here at one time and you just don't know 597 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:19,599 you don't know until you know and 598 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:24,400 it's a learning process i think if you put someone up here for just a year now 599 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:28,240 they can apply again i'm sure but um you put someone up here for 600 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,839 a year they're just gonna figure it out and it'll be time to go 601 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,599 well if they're going to be here then they should have 602 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:40,240 i think more input than what what they've had in the past i mean 603 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:44,079 we're saying you can't vote so what are they here for they 604 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:48,160 they come up they say what they what has to be said or people come up and they 605 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:52,079 talk to us about it present their side of it sometimes 606 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:57,040 i think it's more taking it back to the community where they are 607 00:45:54,240 --> 00:46:02,079 so i guess to me it just seems like 608 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:06,240 there's nothing no clout in it nothing no meat to it at all and they're just a 609 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:10,240 representative they're sitting here and that's it and they have no 610 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,480 real input or are 611 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:21,200 how to do anything or be affecting anything we do it we do it no matter 612 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:24,960 what i think you said that you know that the most important word was represented 613 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:31,440 uh they represent the people 614 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,440 and so do we really yeah but 615 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:39,440 i think it gives the community that feel that one of us 616 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:44,960 is actually up there and we we have a 617 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,960 we have input 618 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,720 i just think that that is important that we not 619 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:57,680 close down another avenue to connect with the 620 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:02,960 community and if we do that i still say that they 621 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,880 should have more input and more 622 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:10,400 um buy into it than they have well i agree 623 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:15,520 there should be there should be more input but i don't think that should be 624 00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:19,040 uh voting input i i think that should be that should be delegated to people that 625 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,760 are elected but uh but i agree i think there should 626 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,920 be a little bit more say so 627 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:30,480 do we do two years mate you know kind of halfway 628 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:33,839 i'm just if keep in mind you know the way the process is done 629 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:39,200 they apply but we as a we as a commission get final 630 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:42,000 say so who sits on that cra board i mean i think it's in the questioning that we 631 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,880 would do of the candidates that come forward 632 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:51,200 and hope we get more than one i mean when when evan died 633 00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:56,800 we had to beg to get somebody from the west side 634 00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:01,680 um you know and i think several of us went to laurie at genie's and begged her 635 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:06,440 if she would come on this floor so um do they have a job description 636 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,969 [Music] 637 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:20,800 there are some requirements that so the state statute has some requirements for 638 00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:26,480 people sitting on a cra board the city also has some requirements 639 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:31,520 we when we advertise it it goes out like a job description so it includes those 640 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:35,440 state requirements and if you um 641 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:39,839 if you refer to the um the staff report there's kind of some bullet points 642 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,040 and so there there is again i don't know if i would call it a 643 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:47,280 job description but there is a description of what we're looking for in 644 00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:51,040 those representatives yes there was and when i did read now that you said i did 645 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:57,040 read the staff report and what they had said in here was um 646 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,040 they talked about 647 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,800 background if you will or knowledgeable in 648 00:49:00,839 --> 00:49:06,559 finance what else was it tom 649 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:10,880 it's development architecture redevelopment planning land planning 650 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:16,559 finance experience experience in um 651 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,559 affordably priced housing 652 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:23,920 those types of things which is probably something that 653 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:23,920 the majority of us don't have 654 00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:32,720 oh i beg to differ with that brother i said the majority 655 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,559 that i say i'd like to think that we've learned a 656 00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:38,559 lot 657 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:49,200 well let's say this so now that if we're going to talk about 658 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:53,680 the we have the other one that that for the 659 00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:56,000 the other one that the volunteer yeah the other volunteer 660 00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,640 so keep one or the other 661 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:05,440 well we we were just we just had the committee just for the three acres 662 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,880 correct the three blocks well and we need to decide well that was 663 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,640 another decision we haven't come to a decision whether we want to keep that 664 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:17,440 group together or not exactly and that was another decision that we needed to 665 00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:21,359 make as well i don't think it's it's we can't really discuss it tonight no no 666 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,200 but it was just but i think the whole thing needs to come 667 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:28,480 back to us and us decide which direction because that committee i think is 668 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:33,280 important too yeah i agree because it gives us a broad range of the of our 669 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:37,040 whole community um you know so 670 00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:40,880 and and if we're going to do this i think that we need to 671 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,920 come up with 672 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,839 what is what are they supposed to be doing about technically like a job 673 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:51,359 description description of what it is that they are supposed to be doing but 674 00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:54,720 as it is there's nothing and i and if and if 675 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,240 we're going to do this i think that we need to know what we know that we know 676 00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:02,800 that we know we need to know yes and maybe if that's statutorily what 677 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:07,200 you had discussed about the statutory that has to be in there but then we can 678 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:11,440 come up with a because that's tough what what he does what you just it is 679 00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:14,000 that statutory we have to get in there so maybe 680 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,520 you know yeah 681 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,599 i think it's worth a a further conversation because i i think we need 682 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:26,319 to find out from staff is through the need for that full board that or that 683 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:31,119 full group that we had that was meeting um and then uh really we need to 684 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:37,200 redefine that list of priorities because 685 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:40,960 willie's right oh no but i don't know did you say that was statutorily done 686 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,200 the um so the statues don't want to get in 687 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,880 trouble no you know the statute 688 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:54,480 talks about new members have to reside in or be engaged in business 689 00:51:52,880 --> 00:52:00,559 in the cra uh and then i i believe it's more 690 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:04,400 um not not a requirement but it is suggested 691 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:08,480 that they have experience in architecture finance construction land 692 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:13,359 use sustainability and or redevelopment alternatively new 693 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:19,800 members will also qualify who have professional and or residential 694 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:19,800 experience within affordable housing 695 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:27,520 and if we have to do that there should be some definite training that's not 696 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,520 there 697 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,200 there are so annually 698 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:41,520 at the florida redevelopment association conference they have training sessions 699 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,960 um related to cra and that's something that 700 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:50,880 we can certainly uh have the um 701 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,880 community reps engage in some of that professional development 702 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:59,920 that's a great idea as an in-person or zoom or just a class 703 00:52:57,359 --> 00:53:05,119 or they are back to in-person though for example this year fra is in daytona and 704 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:08,720 it's coming up in october and they are in person 705 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:13,280 that makes more sense i've always felt a sense of yeah nobody not really knowing 706 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,160 what you why you're here or that there are times 707 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:20,160 it's just so nothing to it and to me if we're going 708 00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:24,079 to have them that they should be more valued than they valuable than they are 709 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:29,040 and maybe they would have a better understanding of what 710 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,359 we know and what we've learned in you at least you and i 18 months you know what 711 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,680 i'm saying so um it might be 712 00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:39,920 i think we could also get lynn up here with the league of cities i mean coming 713 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:43,359 from orlando and she could do a course and i think it would be good for this 714 00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:47,280 commission to actually sit in the same course 715 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:51,920 um so um i think what i would like to suggest to to us as a commission is 716 00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:56,319 let's put this off to our next meeting bring it back re-advertise it so we can 717 00:53:53,839 --> 00:54:01,359 talk more in public with it and also let's go ahead and and talk about that 718 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:06,160 other committee that we have and see if we want to sunset that 719 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:11,839 committee um and to make this stronger or what we want to do or keep both of 720 00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:15,680 them even and i on my list for reports later in the meeting was to look at 721 00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:19,440 calendars to to schedule the next meeting because it's been some time 722 00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:22,839 so we do need to take a look at that and schedule the next meeting nana are you 723 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,200 okay with that plan absolutely are you okay 724 00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:29,200 yeah karen are you okay 725 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,160 okay we'll we'll we'll go ahead and let you 726 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,040 reschedule that continue okay 727 00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:39,040 yeah then we come down to oh gosh the next 728 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,839 one's a hard one city commission compensation 729 00:54:43,839 --> 00:54:49,280 bill howe director of human resources at the last commission meeting 730 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:53,440 commission discussed the possibility of increasing compensation for the city 731 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:58,000 commission staff was directed to gather information from the other jurisdictions 732 00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:01,440 in lake county i provided you that information for each of the 13 733 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:05,200 jurisdictions in summary the compensation for city 734 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,800 commissioners ranges from a low of twenty four hundred 735 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,960 dollars annually to twelve thousand dollars annually and as a reminder city 736 00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:17,280 commissioners and used to earn fifty four hundred dollars annually 737 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:21,359 mayor's compensations vary throughout the county from six thousand dollars to 738 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,520 fifteen thousand eight hundred and eighty eight dollars 739 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:29,680 um our eustace mayor earns sixty four hundred dollars annually with 740 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:34,480 regard to paid health benefits two jurisdictions in lake 741 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:39,520 county provide paid health benefits we do not in the city of eustis 742 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,359 the last increase in compensation to the eustace commission 743 00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:47,559 occurred in 1989 33 years ago 744 00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:56,960 it's recommending the commission advise staff if there should be any increases 745 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,440 or what 746 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:10,160 am i okay now mike to go forward [Laughter] 747 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:10,160 he was fixing to become a ranger again 748 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,240 staff is looking for a direction if there's any changes in compensation for 749 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:19,440 the commission staff would also recommend you consider tying future 750 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,680 increases to some 751 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:27,359 term that you don't bring back every 33 years for consideration 752 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,960 but whether that be the compensation granted i'll be dancing whether that 753 00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:34,720 compensation be granted to other city employees consumer price index or 754 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,240 population that's done in a couple of the other cities so be happy to answer 755 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:43,200 any questions anybody got any questions of bill 756 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:48,160 so is this is something like this usually determined by the commission 757 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,160 itself yes 758 00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:57,359 at school board level and county commission level it is done by the state 759 00:56:53,760 --> 00:57:02,160 legislature by the size of your county we're the only ones that get stuck with 760 00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:05,920 deciding our own pay it's embarrassing it is 761 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:08,140 lovely well you haven't done it in 33 years 762 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,079 there's reasons [Laughter] 763 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:15,920 hence the reason to consider timing to employee compensation that's addressed 764 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:20,160 every year but that's your calling yeah i uh 765 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:24,799 i'm sure i'm not alone up here but but i look at the pay 766 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,839 and there's only two 767 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:35,280 commissioners two two localities uh 768 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:41,200 that make more than what i pay out 769 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,680 as a city commissioner yeah 770 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,240 so we already started out in the hope 771 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:52,079 it's kind of like the cemetery i would at least like to break even yeah and i 772 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,760 haven't broken even since i've sat in this jail 773 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:59,760 and you know at the at the last meeting i was like 774 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:04,240 whatever but that was until i saw it in paper and i'm like yeah 775 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:09,920 yeah when you emailed it i couldn't believe it it was what but it 776 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:12,079 wasn't whatever i'm like what the but 777 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,160 well i mean we i'll just give you a good 778 00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:21,200 example so and i'm not picking on anybody we look at fruitland park and 779 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:25,040 their population is just a little over nine thousand and they're making twelve 780 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,720 thousand dollars and we're at twenty three 781 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:33,440 six basically and we're at fifty four hundred you know 782 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,440 how far out of whack that is 783 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:41,280 and by no stretch am i suggesting 12 000 please understand me clearly 784 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,119 but i just look at that and then you look at somebody like 785 00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:52,319 montverd montford yes 1700 they're this big 786 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:57,280 and there's 1700 people and they're at six thousand dollars look 787 00:58:54,559 --> 00:59:03,040 at the mayors mm-hmm leesburg's not that much bigger than us 788 00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:08,319 their commissioners are making 11 364. they're mayors making almost 16 000. and 789 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:13,119 they have all the benefits every benefit medical eye dental 790 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:17,520 and retire frs they also have frs 791 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:20,559 so i'm sure there will be 792 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,720 there will be some that would say uh 793 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:30,079 you know they're voting on enriching themselves 794 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:33,760 i see facebook tomorrow but i think i continue as a commissioner 795 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:38,720 sitting right here tonight i don't care what you say this 796 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:44,440 ain't right fix it i tell you 797 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,440 this ain't right 798 00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:52,570 [Laughter] 799 00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:03,839 we're gonna have to give direction to staff so i did look at the four percent 800 01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:07,119 i think it was 216 dollars for the whole year 801 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:13,119 so see i i don't know how we give 802 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:16,400 direction to staff to i i don't know how we do it let your conscience be your 803 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,799 guide bill you're going to leave this to me 804 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,240 absolutely no problem i'll take care of it 805 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:26,480 no i mean you know i don't i don't just teasing with you i don't know well when 806 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:30,160 you look at leesburg and with groveland somehow we should be in the middle 807 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,599 you see that groveland is and that's just shut up thousands they just shot up 808 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:40,880 in that population that just shot up that's that's true that population that 809 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:45,599 just happened with the annexations they've been at 9 810 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:50,000 000 a year there for a long time and do you know if 811 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:53,760 these have been incremental no i do not know on all of them 812 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:57,119 i know claremont for example 813 01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:01,119 they pass the doorness that your commission wages are tied to consumer 814 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,200 price index that's they've got that by ordinance 815 01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:08,799 personally i tell you the heartburn with that is i know we've been a position 816 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:13,760 where we haven't been able to give staff consumer price index increases 817 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,760 so 818 01:01:13,839 --> 01:01:21,520 you know for me to various ties there's to population 819 01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,520 changes 820 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:29,920 i'm willing to leave it in the hands of bill to be honest with you 821 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:32,000 i suggest the city attorney weigh in on it 822 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:39,200 i don't want to lose the non-full-time employee that reports to you through the 823 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:42,559 city manager if you two want to work on it i'm perfectly fine with it 824 01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:48,480 if you're comfortable we'll we'll look at the numbers we'll come up 825 01:01:46,799 --> 01:01:52,720 with something reasonable i would recommend 826 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:56,480 moving although it's not much moving into the future i think rather 827 01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,640 than coming back and looking like the percentage 828 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,760 increases are very big periodically i think we sh we should tie 829 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:09,280 it uh in the future to um the what the 830 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:12,960 other employees are getting again i know annually it doesn't come to a lot dollar 831 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:17,520 wise um but it puts you in a position where 832 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:22,400 you don't have to you don't have to look at significant increases periodically 833 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:27,040 you just do the incremental increases annually if that makes sense 834 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,119 um so i would recommend that moving into the future 835 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:33,839 and we i will work with bill we'll come up 836 01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:37,359 with something reasonable and it will need to come back to you 837 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:41,119 potentially in the form of a budget approval meaning you you might not have 838 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:44,880 to approve this specifically you would approve it as 839 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,680 part of a budget or a budget amendment uh depending on 840 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:54,079 how the timing i don't 841 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:57,200 might do can we include it can we 842 01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:02,000 we approved a tentative budget tonight but we have to approve a final budget on 843 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:06,559 the 22nd we approved the final budget in two 844 01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:13,359 weeks on thursday what i would recommend is once it's decided we amend the budget 845 01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:16,559 via resolution after 10-1 oh with the resolution 846 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:20,480 anytime you change the resolution you're putting into a budget 847 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:24,559 you have to have another resolution to do that 848 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:27,039 it would only require one reading not two 849 01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:35,920 okay so under that scenario we would leave the final adopted budget the same 850 01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:40,079 as what you approved tonight and then we would bring back to you an amendment 851 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,480 after the fact after october first okay yeah 852 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,720 the only other alternative would be to do it 853 01:03:48,799 --> 01:03:54,240 no thank you okay we will bring something back to you all right and 854 01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:59,359 you're okay with john and bill working on it 855 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:03,680 emily karen absolutely don't care do you 856 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:03,680 no pressure 857 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:16,079 all right thank you both yes all right then come down to life 15. 858 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,599 yeah so this is really just a technicality um 859 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:24,720 we have to place the order because of lead time and it's it's a significant 860 01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:29,280 expense it is budgeted in the budget the tentative budget that you just approved 861 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:33,359 but we can't place the order because the money isn't there yet and it isn't there 862 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:37,760 until october 1st and so basically we're just asking for 863 01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:42,480 consensus are you okay with us placing the order and then the actual purchase 864 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:47,119 documentation will have to come back to you once the budget is approved um so 865 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:51,680 are you okay with us placing the order is basically what we're asking these are 866 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:55,039 so important uh to us that we have to go ahead and get any cheaper 867 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:03,119 part of the issue is there's a significant price increase coming up so 868 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,359 if we waited to october 1 it would cost more 869 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:09,480 mike how long is it going to take to get these once we place an order 870 01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:14,160 okay yeah get the get him ordered 871 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,520 wow all right 872 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,799 thank y'all i think that's what we needed okay thank 873 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:27,440 you all right coming down to future agenda 874 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:34,240 item and reports karen anything to report any future agenda items i am 875 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:37,190 done i mean i'm good you're not done yeah you got a few 876 01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:42,319 months left okay [Laughter] 877 01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:47,280 any future agenda items or anything to report i don't have any future agenda 878 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:51,440 items but i do have i just have one question for 879 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,880 is he still here rick pappas pop smurf you're here no he left it never mind i 880 01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:59,359 just that's okay i'm just going to ask him for an island update that's all okay 881 01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:04,079 okay but um uh uh 882 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:06,799 i would like to say that i will be attending 883 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:15,440 on tuesday next week on tuesday september 13th at noon at the lake 884 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:20,559 county historical museum they will be the unveiling of the mary 885 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:25,520 mcleod bethune smaller statue just like the one that we 886 01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:28,799 went to daytona and looked at and just for those of you who don't know her i 887 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,039 would just feel just i'd like to read a little something 888 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,880 um uh dr mary mcleod bethune was an 889 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:40,559 american educator philanthropist humanitarian womanist and a civil rights 890 01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:45,440 activist dr bethune founded the national council of negro women in 1935 with 891 01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:50,880 florida's headquarters located in lake county's city of claremont 892 01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:56,000 she also established the journal afro-american women's journal she 893 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:59,760 presided as president for a myriad of african-american women's organizations 894 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:04,480 including the national association for colored women and the national youth 895 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:09,119 administration's negro division dr bethune was also appointed as a 896 01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:13,440 national advisor to president franklin d roosevelt who she worked with to create 897 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:17,440 the federal council on colored affairs also known as the black cabinet so just 898 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,559 in case you didn't know there's a little little education about mary mcleod 899 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:25,280 bethune so at noon on the 13th if you'd like to 900 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:28,880 join us um that original big statue that they unveiled in daytona was the most 901 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:33,839 stunning thing i've ever seen in my entire life i i it was the most 902 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:38,000 beautiful thing ever and we i enjoyed going so um i will be there for that 903 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:42,640 also too um well i'll let you you want to talk about the 911 one yeah okay i'll 904 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:46,000 let you discuss that and then um i'm in the process of looking at something for 905 01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:50,319 the city of eustis um just looking some information on america in bloom 906 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:54,160 and the city of tavares currently has it now and you have like little chapters 907 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:58,400 and lake county has a chapter and so it's just another way to beautify our 908 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,440 city and um there are some things through waste management we can guess to 909 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:05,039 some beautify uh different islands and different 910 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:09,599 things around the city so i'm going to be working on that as well so beautiful 911 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:12,480 i'm a little busy thank you really 912 01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:15,839 okay you want to follow that go ahead i'll follow all that 913 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:23,359 absolutely not you know the the the last week and a 914 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:28,239 half i've spent at the high school painting the 915 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:32,239 bathrooms in the concession stands um 916 01:08:29,679 --> 01:08:36,560 so we read i redid those uh 917 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:40,960 but uh in the next probably month or so we're actually going to 918 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:45,440 do the concession stand itself uh the interior yep so 919 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:50,560 if anyone wants to come out and help paint i'll pick a weekend 920 01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:55,520 perfect funding is a real problem with our high school sports as you know 921 01:08:52,719 --> 01:09:00,640 lake county and school system does not do much anymore to support that willie 922 01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:03,679 and i have talked a little bit man about maybe trying to do something like 923 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,359 bulldog night like they're doing umatilla it's hearing 924 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:15,520 30 000 instantly into the sports programs that 925 01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:18,719 used to size minimum um so i would like to see us as a commission maybe work 926 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:23,199 with um the um athletic director and the high 927 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:26,080 school to try to put together something like that that became an annual event 928 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,920 for us uh here in the city of eustis i think 929 01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:34,640 we'd have to hold it at the fairgrounds um but i think it's something that would 930 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:40,080 be kind of cool yeah the uh the umatilla boosters holds it at the um 931 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:45,120 and it is an adult event there are adult things that happen there 932 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:48,400 and so um children are not involved because there's raising of a lot of 933 01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:52,640 money right and there's adult things there so um it's a huge event it's a 934 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:56,320 wonderful event all the community matilla comes out for it 935 01:09:54,239 --> 01:10:00,080 everybody you've come with me before it's amazing 936 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:05,600 and um so yes i'll i'll be more than happy to assist in that okay let's do it 937 01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:10,480 sounds good i also the new announcer for the high school football games that does 938 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:14,480 the announcing he is um with a radio station out of orlando and he is willing 939 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:19,280 to help us with that as well okay so we'll get working on that 940 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:22,480 anything else willie nope that's it vice mayor 941 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:27,440 well i was very happy to participate and to 942 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:30,960 watch the events of the misuse this contest we were on there it was really 943 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,480 awesome and um 944 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:39,199 and fun to watch especially the little ones little tiny ones and their 945 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:43,040 attention span so it was it was a nice event i didn't get to stay as long as i 946 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:46,719 would have liked to yesterday but it was very interesting at advent hospital with 947 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:51,040 their new robotics uh program and and the equipment that 948 01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:53,120 they bought i i was very impressed with that 949 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,560 and um other than that i'm looking forward to 950 01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:01,840 the 13th and the 9 11 event that's it beautiful thank you 951 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:07,120 tom yeah a few items um we're going to have 952 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,360 a presentation for you um 953 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:17,360 gunster uh who has done some legal work for us 954 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:21,120 related to um some growth items 955 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:24,800 they're going to be doing a presentation uh at an upcoming commission meeting i 956 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:30,080 believe we've got them scheduled for september 22nd 957 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:32,880 also i had emailed the commission about a 958 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:37,520 community development district discussion uh we we're tentatively going 959 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:42,960 to try to do a presentation on october 6th for that 960 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:48,080 that is your first commission meeting in october 961 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:53,280 lake uh lake community action agency 962 01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:57,440 has been working on our uh housing rehab program 963 01:11:54,400 --> 01:12:02,239 uh commissioner hawkins and i uh toured uh i think three homes 964 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:06,480 and uh were satisfied there was one home that had some unfinished items that they 965 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:10,560 got right on and so uh i want to ask uh is there 966 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:15,120 consensus uh to move forward um not reopening the 967 01:12:13,199 --> 01:12:18,640 application process but there are still homes 968 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:23,040 in the queue that have applied and that we had put on hold is it okay to move to 969 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:26,480 the next say three or four homes because we've been kind of taking them 970 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:29,440 in blocks of three or four does anybody have an issue moving 971 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:33,760 forward with the next three or four homes 972 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:37,360 we saw funds left we do have it's like 111 973 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:41,760 eight something like that yeah i think that i think that assumed 974 01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:47,360 that all the homes on the list were going to move through the program 975 01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:50,640 yeah yeah i i have to say you know that 976 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:57,280 uh tim has done a pretty good job of 977 01:12:53,920 --> 01:13:00,719 cleaning things up so yeah okay 978 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:03,840 man you're okay with moving forward how many moving 979 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,600 of our forward let's do it we're going to do increments 980 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:11,040 of four i think that's what we discussed can they 981 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,040 karen you okay 982 01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:16,320 okay um 983 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:20,080 there was um i one of the commissioners uh it may have been commissioner cobb 984 01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:24,719 had asked about taking a look at 985 01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:29,840 residential densities and potentially a new future land use category 986 01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:33,280 and i want to know if the commission would like to try to schedule a workshop 987 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,719 on that this i would envision this would not be 988 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,640 a five o'clock before a six o'clock 989 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:44,840 commission type workshop this would probably be a standalone 990 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:49,679 potentially even a saturday workshop what is the commission's 991 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:52,560 interest in scheduling something like that 992 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:55,679 we have some cleanup work that needs to be done 993 01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:59,880 so we need to get on that willie are you okay with it oh yeah 994 01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:08,560 is it maybe i'll start looking at calendars and and try to email and see 995 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:12,560 if we could come up with a viable date okay 996 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:17,120 um just a couple more fdot uh we have a meeting tomorrow 9 30 a.m we have 997 01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:20,400 advertised it as a city commission meeting so that you can all attend and 998 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:24,000 participate um 999 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:29,440 that is uh with the secretary of district 5 to talk about projects and 1000 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:35,199 maintenance in the area i do want to mention that 1001 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:39,040 there may be a need to go out into the field at some point 1002 01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:43,199 we will need to adjourn the meeting and then have just one commissioner go out 1003 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:48,159 into the field because the logistics of carrying on a 1004 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:52,960 commission meeting out in the field is going to be very difficult 1005 01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:57,040 and so if if we do need to adjourn and do some field work i just wanted to 1006 01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:00,080 throw out that it will have to adjourn the meeting and have one commissioner do 1007 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:05,679 that and so that's tomorrow at 9 30 a.m 1008 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:09,920 and then the cra review committee we have a couple of outstanding items i 1009 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:13,679 know we need to talk more about mode own program 1010 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:17,280 we need to talk a little bit more about some of the priorities that were 1011 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:22,000 established during public input and so we do need to schedule that 1012 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:28,640 i think in the past we had done tuesday evening meetings for that group 1013 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:32,960 or we could look at an off thursday a non-commission thursday 1014 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:36,239 but i just want to make sure that the commission is interested in scheduling 1015 01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:40,159 the next meeting again i'll take a look at calendars and 1016 01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:44,400 i'll get that scheduled but i'll probably be looking at either a tuesday 1017 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:49,440 or an off thursday okay and i think that's everything i 1018 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:54,400 have wow all right thank you madam attorney i have no report smith thank 1019 01:15:51,360 --> 01:16:00,239 you so much i appreciate it um a couple of things that i have um 1020 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:04,880 for the commission itself um is tom's contract calls for a six-month review 1021 01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:08,880 and believe it or not it's time for that review 1022 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:13,760 what i would like to do is ask bill howell to reach out and set up a meeting 1023 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:18,640 with each commissioner along with bill and with tom 1024 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:23,840 let you all sit and talk with tom about what your expectations are and what 1025 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:28,719 we've seen so far with his performance bill will combine that and bring it back 1026 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:31,679 to us as a full commission um and we'll go from that and then we're going to 1027 01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:36,400 have to take a look at the way we further review tom a little bit later on 1028 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:41,280 down the road if that's okay the annual review because i will say um i've looked 1029 01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:45,920 at the review paperwork in the past and i had even talked to bill about it you 1030 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:49,920 know and it it needs some work yeah it needs some work it needs to be updated 1031 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:54,640 so um when you get a call from bill or an email from bill that's what he is 1032 01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:58,960 scheduling with you um so um please go in be honest and it'll keep us 1033 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:03,440 moving forward in a good way manner i hope so all right 1034 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:08,880 this coming sunday is the 21st anniversary of 9 11. 1035 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:12,080 lake county is having a service at 8 o'clock in the morning 1036 01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:15,440 at the historic courthouse in downtown 1037 01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:19,600 tavares it is open to the public we would love 1038 01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:23,600 to have everyone there then there are a couple more events 1039 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:29,360 going around so please check the uh facebook and check the newspapers there 1040 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:35,679 are many things that are advertised nan myself and tom were able to attend 1041 01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:41,840 first baptist life point uh last sunday they celebrated their 103rd anniversary 1042 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:47,840 or birthday and they celebrated being debt-free which is tremendous they paid 1043 01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:51,760 off a debt of 1.8 million dollars in a matter of five years 1044 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:56,080 and that is from them relocating from orange avenue out further 1045 01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:00,320 so it's paid off every bit of their debt so they're looking forward to partnering 1046 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:04,400 with our community and doing some really great things in the community as we move 1047 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:07,840 forward also just wanted to say 1048 01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:14,080 thank you to our events and tourism staff they 1049 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:18,480 went to a conference and they won five awards at that conference they're doing 1050 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:22,560 i'm very proud of them they've done a tremendous job 1051 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:26,560 with representing eustis and first fridays and our events have really 1052 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:30,880 changed over the last couple months i'm very 1053 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:36,800 proud of that that's about all i've got please come 1054 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:40,400 out and support the events as they go on craig's got some great events coming up 1055 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,840 with parks and recreation for toddlers 1056 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,640 so come out and be a part of those events i want to thank our staff for all 1057 01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:53,120 that they do y'all work tirelessly for us y'all are truthfully the face of the 1058 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:56,800 city so thank you for all your hard work thank you for being with us tonight and 1059 01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:02,320 we are i just had one quick thing i meant to say go ahead hit that camera 1060 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:04,480 i just i i just really wanted to say thanks 1061 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:09,600 to the finance staff 1062 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,800 going through this the when we went through our workshops and i think we 1063 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:17,120 must have had three or four i will tell you that helps us 1064 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:21,440 tremendously i know it's a lot of work but when we go line item by light on him 1065 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:25,840 it really helps us know what we're spending our money on 1066 01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:29,679 and you'd be surprised the people out in the community that come to us and say 1067 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:33,600 where's the money going where's this where's that and we have 1068 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:37,120 we have a good indication no we don't know how many pencils we're buying but 1069 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:41,360 at least we know what we're spending on office supplies and different 1070 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:44,480 departments and so it's a lot of work and 1071 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:47,840 i'm a numbers person so i will tell you i really enjoy that process i know it's 1072 01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:51,120 daunting but i just want to say thank you 1073 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:55,280 one quick reminder too tomorrow is the league of cities luncheon and uh sheriff 1074 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,800 grinnell is doing that presentation at lunch tomorrow so if anybody can make it 1075 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:02,840 on the city commission we'd appreciate you being here that is all we have for 1076 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:07,800 this evening we're adjourned were you gonna come here