[0:24] hey it's two minutes until [0:31] how else would you do it because how you pay that rent no but i never see [0:35] anybody there except those parties [0:46] emily he's drunk with power i know yes he is there are some nights and is [0:52] the way i value my life [1:03] so [1:19] good evening everyone welcome to eustis city hall this is a regular city [1:23] commission meeting of the eustis city commission it is 6 p.m thursday [1:27] september the 8th 2022 at this time if you'd like to join us [1:32] for a moment of silence and the pledge of allegiance please stand [1:47] amen please join me in the pledge of [1:50] allegiance i pledge allegiance the flag of the united states [1:55] of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god [2:01] indivisible with liberty and justice for all [2:05] thank you [2:11] go ahead and call our meeting to order christina sarah foreign president proper [2:15] note has been given yes thank you so much tom agenda updates yes uh two [2:20] things uh one the presentation on the budget and the millage scheduled [2:26] under 3.1 uh it makes more sense to do that at the time of the item and so we'd [2:30] like to do that just prior to 6.1 if that's okay absolutely [2:35] and then the other item i would like to take an opportunity to introduce the [2:40] artists who are exhibiting at city hall currently so i'd like to invite up wanda [2:45] pedrosa and vidal torres please come on up introduce yourselves [2:51] right here to the microphone in the center there folks [2:54] okay thank you hi good evening my name is juan de [2:59] pedosa i'm nated from puerto rico [3:03] but i'm a resident of eustis uh it's gonna be our fifth year [3:09] fifth year and we are artists and hand crafters and [3:14] we will we love to share all our knowledge with the [3:19] community in eustace that's why we came and offered [3:24] to display our art um also in celebration of the hispanic [3:29] heritage month that is from september to october [3:33] so i hope you enjoy our art and i don't know [3:38] you want to say something else [Laughter] [3:43] your artwork is absolutely your artwork is absolutely beautiful we thank you for [3:48] sharing it with us and we look forward to hopefully showcasing you all some [3:52] more throughout the year yes and we're looking forward to keep working with you [3:56] uh and the theory of justice thank [4:02] [Applause] [4:10] we do appreciate [4:14] that you give us the opportunity to be here [4:18] and to share with the city of eustis [4:24] our art in appreciation [4:29] we we like to give you [4:32] the poster of the [4:34] exhibit we are one all right thank you so much [4:39] we appreciate that [4:47] thank you so much it's really nice [4:52] very nice [5:08] george there okay do we all give george a quarter [5:13] this is like a cruise ship you at the end you can come up and pick them up and [5:17] buy them three two one three [5:21] two one thank you thank you george thank you [5:24] all so much [5:31] all right moving on down next we have approval of minutes we have on our [5:36] agenda tonight the june 28 2022 city commission budget workshop the june 30th [5:42] 2022 city commission budget workshop and the august 18 2022 city commission [5:48] cemetery workshop looking for approval for the approval of [5:53] the june 28 june 30th august 18th minutes thank you ma'am [5:59] thank you sir any further discussion not hearing any roll call please vice [6:03] mayor lee aye commissioner lahoop smith aye commissioner cobb aye commissioner [6:07] hawkins aye mayor holland aye next we have presentations which we have moved [6:12] over to the uh further down in the agenda so now we [6:16] come down to audience to be heard if you'd like to speak to the commission [6:18] about something that's not on the agenda this is your opportunity you get three [6:22] minutes please give us your name when you come forward [6:25] tom anybody yes i have a card from cindy newton all right hi cindy [6:36] good evening cindy newton i'm in unincorporated [6:40] lake county district four and i just wanted to thank mayor holland [6:44] for sitting in on the panel for the recent double acp part 3 [6:48] citizens town hall meeting on lake county's population explosion [6:53] it was an excellent meeting it went so well the [6:59] sitting there listening and having input and just observing [7:05] various leaders from not only the county but [7:10] several municipalities [7:12] and they had such a unity in [7:17] thoughts and [7:20] direction for the area and it was [7:26] uplifting it was encouraging and greatly appreciate it i just want to thank you [7:31] thank you i appreciate that [7:45] okay uh gail isaac thomas [7:50] scale good evening [7:53] hi sasha hello how are you i just want to stand before you this [7:58] evening and say how much i appreciate it [8:03] being the volunteer for the cr east town [8:08] east used to cra rep for [8:14] three almost three and a half years but anyway [8:17] i just want to tell you all thank you i appreciate everything that [8:22] was done during my time as a representative [8:29] and pray and hope that things continue to improve [8:32] in east town and i also want to say congratulations [8:38] commissioner thank you to another year thank you thank you thank you gail thank [8:43] you for your service anybody else tom so um we received a [8:50] card uh from gessner harris but she is not here [8:54] yet and she is on her way so i don't know what the will of the commission is [8:59] um [9:01] let's see where we are when guest new gets here i have a card from yolanda [9:05] taylor miss yolanda come on to the microphone how are you [9:10] good thank you for allowing me to still submit [9:14] yolanda taylor good evening commission board i'm [9:17] actually here as a regular resident in east town 806 liberty street [9:24] actually stood before the board and we talked about bears [9:30] we talked about bears and i know we discussed a few things as far as signs [9:34] and trash cans and things of that nature and i'm aware that some of the [9:39] commissioning board also is aware of a safety issue as far as bears are [9:43] concerned with chasing individuals in the community [9:47] i am know [9:49] for sure that the individual that got chased by the bear [9:54] actually lives next door to a relative of mine that has two little babies [9:59] and also next to a very close relative of mine who has [10:03] seven babies in that home so now are we not dealing with trash but we're also [10:08] dealing with safety okay [10:11] i understand that the residents had the opportunity to contact animal control [10:16] and wildlife and they were given keys or excuse me locks for their trash can [10:22] currently we have approximately two individuals in the neighborhood who have [10:27] these locks so my next question is whether or not is that the [10:31] possible direction that we should take if we should just be contacting wildlife [10:35] to make sure that we not only have the locks for the can [10:39] but we're looking at a safety issue and usually when we're dealing with safety [10:42] with animals they come out with capture to capture [10:47] so i don't know exactly where we are or where to go with that [10:51] yeah and again we understand animals are going to be here right they're [10:55] everywhere i don't like lizards if i could call somebody to get every [11:00] lizard i would please just take them away [11:04] i don't like lizards but i mean there's nothing i can do about it okay um [11:08] however when we are now dealing with safety and especially when the bears [11:12] come out when it's still daylight okay and we have little babies [11:17] and the little babies are starting to chase humans [11:20] okay all right um [11:23] yeah so i just wanted to revisit that again for sure [11:27] um i know and i have faith that we will be able to get some level of assistance [11:31] i do believe and am aware that we may be receiving [11:35] assistance just wanted to bring that to the board again in attention okay all [11:39] right thank you i can maybe give a little update on [11:43] that um and so the commission had said [11:46] contact waste management waste management [11:50] does have a program they said the only municipality that's [11:54] participating right now is mount dora waste management will go out and buy the [12:00] bear proof cans [12:03] they [Music] [12:04] well i'm sorry waste management will buy them on behalf of the city the city will [12:09] pay for those cans the city can then determine how to [12:13] distribute those cans mount dora chooses to pass that cost [12:18] along to the customer so mount dora pays for a bear proof can [12:22] if a customer requests it mount dora charges the customer for the cost of [12:26] that cam in talking to jose at waste management [12:30] the cost of the can right now is about 250 dollars for a bear proof can [12:35] now commissioner hawkins recently was in touch with some folks from [12:40] fish and wildlife they have [12:44] kind of like a strap or buckle solution they i contacted waste management and [12:51] said do you have any experience with these straps or buckles does it make it [12:55] difficult for you to pick up trash and waste management said we have no [12:59] experience with what fish and wildlife is talking about [13:02] and so where commissioner hawkins and i left it was maybe we need to get [13:07] waste management operations folks with fish and wildlife [13:11] to see if this is a viable solution and it's something that's workable and [13:16] allows waste management to continue to pick up the trash [13:20] and so we can do that i think waste management would be i'm [13:24] sorry i think fish and wildlife would be asking us [13:27] to bear the cost of those those straps and buckles and i [13:32] think it's a reasonable cost and it's whether we pass that on to the [13:37] customer is something that we would have to talk about [13:40] so i think it's it would be cost effective [13:43] we just don't quite know yet if it's something that waste management can work [13:47] with if waste management can't you pick up the trash they're not going to allow [13:52] that to be used um and so [13:55] at this point i think we just have to do a little bit more work on it yeah i [13:59] think that um that that is [14:04] something that uh fish and wildlife said they would they [14:08] would make for us if we wanted it but that being said if it was something [14:14] that we we could do we would have to get the word out to [14:18] every resident there that [14:21] they would have to make sure on the day of trash pickup that they unbuckle [14:28] their their trash cans because if not it may not get picked up and then [14:33] you know there'll be complaints about them so we [14:36] just need to we got to take the steps to get [14:39] everything done and then when the time comes you and i will go out and we'll [14:43] walk the neighborhood and we'll tell everybody what they need to do [14:47] okay all right thank you willy thank you tom [14:50] so uh yolanda submitted another card on another issue i don't know what the will [14:55] of the commission is go ahead real quick come on [15:04] thank you again yolanda taylor [15:07] this time i'm actually here for the east town community redevelopment [15:11] incorporated i'm actually here to briefly discuss [15:17] code enforcement at the last meeting there were a few [15:22] concerns as far as code enforcement is concerned i had the opportunity to speak [15:27] with mr eric martin to just to educate myself because that's what we want to do [15:33] we want to be able to educate and have a better understanding [15:37] and some of the findings that i found out were eyebrow raising so i need you [15:42] guys's help and direction on that and see how is it [15:46] that we can proceed from here just to give an example some of the [15:49] questions as far as how is it that we decide the sliding scale of [15:53] between the two 25 dollars to the 250 dollars of fees [15:58] that is that are applied based on infraction there isn't necessarily a [16:01] standard scale this is just something based on from [16:05] what i was told what we may decide [16:08] that particular fee is so my eyebrow razor is shouldn't we [16:12] possibly have something in place that is a [16:16] sliding scale based on the infraction if it's something that's um [16:20] you know detrimental if it's safety then of course it gets a higher end if it's [16:24] something that's level is grass it may fall within a certain bracket where it [16:27] may be on the level end that's not necessarily something that's in place [16:31] now my next concern was about finding out the information as far as code [16:35] enforcement liens and issues that we have in the community [16:39] right now currently the only way that we can find it out is just by going and [16:43] looking on the board not everyone is posted nor is it anywhere else [16:47] researchable for the community to find out so my position here is to see [16:53] how is it that we can come up with a better way to one educate [16:57] our residents whether that's through the organization so we can learn a little [17:01] bit more as far as the processes and coming up with a better way as far as [17:05] how is it that we are notified of the infractions and how the fees are applied [17:10] and how we determine how much is applied per [17:14] infraction versus it just being based off emotion today you know i feel [17:19] like it's going to be 75 a day tomorrow it might be 250 today there's not [17:24] anything that's concrete as far as a guide [17:30] so that's an issue especially in the in the area [17:33] where can somebody please get that from me [17:36] um in the area where we are losing land we're losing property [17:40] and it's our job to make sure that we make sure our residents know what's [17:45] going on and i'm in that position to help to do so okay [17:49] i'm going to ask you to schedule a meeting with tom and with mike okay and [17:54] sit down and talk to them when i was on the code enforcement board we had some [17:59] set fees and i believe that code enforcement [18:02] board does have set fees of what when they when somebody comes in front of [18:06] them and willie you were on it prior to coming on the commission there [18:11] there is uh that document that shows them a sliding scale so [18:16] if you will get with those gentlemen let them sit down with you and meet with you [18:20] because i have i have concerns with code enforcement as well yeah and we want to [18:24] be able to help to make sure that we all know what's going on correct okay if [18:29] you'll just schedule a meeting with tom and with mike they can sit down with you [18:32] and go over that and get you an answer all right thank you [18:36] okay thank you so much ms gessner i saw you walk in and i know you've got a card [18:40] in already you want to come up ma'am [18:48] how are you tonight fine good later vice mayor commissioners [18:54] i just came up i would like to make a maybe suggestion [19:01] recently we rented the building out at carver park the [19:05] garden room and in renting the building they were [19:10] having a football game and for the football game we gave to the [19:15] cheerleaders we bought uniforms and all that [19:18] but when you're renting the building [19:21] it is my suggestion if they would rope off [19:26] the parking lot for the people that are renting the building [19:30] if the building is not being rented it's open for free parking [19:36] but if you have paid 50 an hour to rent a building and you [19:40] get there and there's no parking it's kind of embarrassing [19:44] we had people from far as the bahamas and they came in here elderly people [19:49] could not even drop the food off we were trying to park side the streets going in [19:54] a ditch to bring the food in and it's just a suggestion in the future [19:59] that if you're renting the building i understand why they didn't want to rent [20:03] it now because that's probably why but if we're bringing revenue in by renting [20:08] the building i could not see not letting us rent the building which we [20:13] really did appreciate yes ma'am and that's a lot of us yes yes you have our [20:18] condolences for the loss in your family and we're sorry if it embarrassed you in [20:23] any way all right thank you ma'am we'll take it under advisement thank you [20:29] anybody else tom um [20:31] dorothy stevenson miss dorothy [20:41] i forgot to say there's an overflow parking which we were told that's down [20:45] there if they would take a sign maybe and put overflow parking [20:50] they told us to use that but i think they can [20:53] use that gotcha thank you ma'am hello miss dorothy good evening board members [20:59] i'm dorothy stevenson liberty street [21:03] first of all i would like to thank my mayor for taking [21:06] making sure i was okay doing my surgery thank you so much you're welcome and uh [21:12] grand opening was awesome thank you for that also and [21:16] i just want to address again i want gail to know [21:19] how much we appreciate the service that you did [21:23] for us while you was on the board [21:27] you know you did all that you could and knew how [21:30] to do and i want to thank you publicly for doing what you did [21:35] and you know we are community [21:39] and if love is supposed to be a community and [21:44] if we show each other love and respect that's all we can do and i just want to [21:49] say thank you all thank you and [21:53] the issues about the bear and pardon bears too so i'm a part of all the [21:58] issues that's going on so everything that you're here listening to [22:03] is a part of me also and i want to thank and hope we all have [22:07] listeners thank you thank you [22:13] anybody else tom that's all i have as far as cards thank you anybody else like [22:16] to address the commission on anything that's not on the agenda this evening [22:21] not seen anything we're going to go ahead down to the consent agenda there [22:25] are three items on the consent agenda this evening is there anything anybody [22:30] would like pooled for discussion [22:33] not hearing i'm looking for a motion to accept the consent agenda [22:37] thank you ma'am thank you ma'am any further discussion [22:41] not hearing any roll call please vice mayor lee aye commissioner hope smith [22:45] aye commissioner cobb aye commissioner hawkins aye mayor holland aye madam [22:50] attorney thank you mr mayor um mr shepard will now present on the [22:55] tentative millage levy of the ad valorem taxes and the tentative budget for the [22:59] city of eustis thank you ma'am mayor [23:02] members of commission mike shepard finance director [23:05] i'd like to first thank you all for your participation in [23:09] this whole process and i have [23:12] nellie harnish and joy mackenzie who have done a lot of [23:16] work in getting this thing put together so [23:19] it's been a pleasure [23:24] how does this work [23:33] we're getting close to the end of it we have this meeting [23:37] and one more meeting to to meet for reading the budget and the tentative [23:41] millage and we'll be doing that and then we will [23:44] advertise we have to advertise that on the 19th which is a sunday paper [23:49] it'll be in the daily commercial and uh that's required by law [23:54] uh after the [23:57] next thursday or two thursdays from now we will be [24:01] certifying by the 27th we have to certify to the property appraiser what [24:05] the millage will be and [24:09] the adoptive budget will be distributed in october 1 [24:13] will have a new budget [24:16] these are a list of the major funds uh that we have the biggest two are uh have [24:21] to do with general fund water and sewer water and sewers made up of three or [24:25] four different [24:27] separate funds but combined uh the methodology it [24:33] will be this is how all of it will be presented you'll have two years of [24:37] history uh you'll have the adopted budget from [24:40] last year you'll have the projected budget for this year and then the [24:44] proposed this gives you a list of [24:49] where we started from and the different uh [24:53] things that we discussed and and changes that we made to the budget to [24:57] get to where the bottom line where we're at right now [25:02] and each of the funds that had a anything changing is listed there [25:11] these are some of the big items that we [25:15] had going through the [25:18] life and health insurance we got a 20 or two percent decrease [25:23] which is unheard of [25:26] the cola we were able to do a four percent [25:29] and then uh we also did a longevity which goes a half a percent per year up [25:34] to four years two percent max this will get us help get us closer to [25:41] what the other cities are doing so we're competitive and we're going to be in a [25:45] position maybe next year to be over the fifteen dollars an hour which [25:49] goes into effects on uh thinking 26 25. the other items uh [25:57] you know we we look at the the state revenues they make projections [26:02] we use what we are gathering now [26:05] combine the two to get get the estimates for revenues [26:10] uh these are some of the things that uh [26:13] general liability insurance 10 was budgeted uh [26:18] the fire pension decreased a little bit uh from four one nine eight to four two [26:23] nine four it's i'm sorry i just skipped a line [26:28] three nine two three eight three uh [26:32] small decrease and the police pension increased a little [26:36] uh a total of uh 4198-4294 for a slight increase of 10 000 [26:43] we have a we're going to get three new officers resource officers so uh [26:48] but in order to do that the school board is paying uh 246 000 or no 226 thousand [26:55] 246 is going to be our approximate cost but we get we through that we'll get [27:02] more information on the students that are in there [27:06] and i already said that [27:08] this is just a summary of all the budget changes and [27:13] start with a beginning balance revenues expenditures less reserves that [27:18] are required and we get to unbalance [27:21] for the end of 9 30 23. [27:26] this is just a representation pie chart for [27:29] the revenues that we're going to be receiving from all those funds [27:34] this will be the budgeted expenditures that we're going [27:37] to have from there [27:42] this is for the general fund it just shows the revenues that we have where it [27:45] came from expenditures and where they can where they're going [27:53] we were proposing 7581 [27:57] for the millage rate the taxable value [28:01] that we have is [28:07] anyway that [28:10] we're proposing 7581 the [28:14] and it did go up a little bit from that time that this was made [28:19] then the the rollback rate 7.0064 [28:26] and the maximum that we could do is 8.8 and again we're proposing 7581 would be [28:34] i think the ninth year that we've done that [28:39] this one here i've highlighted the ones that i'm going [28:43] to show you in the next screen this shows us [28:47] as far as the millage rate we're dead last [28:51] but uh so out of the 14 we're 14. however if you look at the functional [28:56] millage rate we're number two out of the [29:00] the four other ones that we're comparing ourselves to [29:03] they have the pretty much the same uh taxable [29:06] valuations and uh these are the other things they [29:10] have that show the village rate the transfers to the general fund we over [29:15] here we show what the uh millage rate would be needed to to cover [29:19] that and then if they have a fire sentence assessment fee [29:24] that millage rate is include so they're all added together [29:27] and we're we're number two uh right behind lady lake [29:36] this one here shows the per capita uh and as far as that goes uh the the [29:42] the number of citizens we have compared to the expenditure we have for the [29:45] general fund we're still number one and uh [29:49] goes to various leesburg and mount dora after that [29:54] the uh this is a description of how the [29:58] it's the millage rate would be applied to a home [30:01] if it's 150 000 you subtract 50 000 for homestead exemption [30:06] then you divide that amount 100 000 by 1000 whatever it comes out to be [30:11] divided by a thousand and then you multiply that by our [30:15] 7.581 that gives you the taxable value [30:20] the uh hours of seven five seven hundred fifty [30:24] eight dollars and ten cents for every hundred thousand dollars [30:28] annual taxes and the rollback would be 700.64 [30:32] which gives you a savings it would give the individual would get a savings of 57 [30:38] dollars and 46 cents and that divided by 12 [30:43] is about a cup of coffee the [30:47] the millage reduction while it may be it's a little bit for [30:52] money into the customer prop pockets [30:56] but it means a lot to the city on the services we we provide because we have [31:00] police fire uh public works [31:04] uh development services legal and what have you [31:09] so all the administration so i think it's a good value [31:13] if you if you look at it uh these this is uh one mill would equal [31:18] one million three hundred twenty thousand [31:21] uh this this is a breakdown of the uh [31:24] percentage for each of the uh the budget items that we're looking at [31:30] and uh [31:34] okay this uh gives you the taxable values [31:37] over the last 10 years so you see the values have started [31:41] really going up uh and an oh i think it was 08 they they've [31:46] held to the bottom of the barrel [31:49] so we're just we're getting above that and [31:52] hopefully it'll continue i'm sorry there was supposed to been one [31:57] more in there um [32:01] but that's [32:07] okay austin [32:11] okay well no i'm sorry there was a there was a per [32:15] capita i put that in there that was earlier [32:17] so if there's uh if there's any questions [32:21] uh i'll be happy to answer them um [32:25] most of you all of you have been involved with the whole process so [32:29] if anyone wants a copy of this a hard copy of this so i'll get it to you in a [32:33] pdf or if anyone in the audience would like [32:37] one we'll give it to them and again [32:41] i want to thank all of you tom has been [32:45] instrumental in it and uh [32:48] so is natalie harness and again joy mackenzie [32:52] thank you any questions of life from the commission [32:56] i'm not hearing anything mike thank you madam attorney back to [33:00] you ma'am thank you mr mayor we'll start with resolution number 22-61 [33:04] a resolution by the city commission of the city of eustis lake county florida [33:08] adopting the tentative millage levy of ad valorem taxes for the city of eustis [33:12] lake county for the fiscal year of 2022 2023 providing for an effective date [33:19] yes are there any additional questions from the commission from mr shepherd [33:23] okay is there anyone in the the only thing i want to mention for the millage [33:27] rate is the uh rollback rate this the millage [33:31] rate that we're adopting is going to be 8.2 percent higher than the rollback [33:36] rate to make that clear [33:39] other than that the [33:43] first we're staying at this will cover us and we'll have a little bit left over [33:47] hopefully at the end of the year anything further commission is there [33:52] anyone in the audience i would like to speak on resolution number 22-61 [33:57] okay seeing none public comment is closed [34:00] commissioners before us we have resolution number 22-61 what's the will [34:04] of our commission [34:07] mr mayor i moved for approval of resolution number 22-61 thank you ma'am [34:12] i said thank you sir any further discussion [34:16] not hearing any roll call please vice mayor lee aye commissioner lahoop smith [34:21] aye commissioner cobb aye commissioner hawkins aye mayor holland hi [34:26] next we have resolution number 22-62 a resolution by the city commission of the [34:31] city of eustis lake county florida adopting the tentative budget for the [34:34] fiscal year 2021 through 2022 and providing for an effective date does the [34:39] commission have any questions for mr shepard on this i just 23. it's 22 23 [34:44] sorry yeah i'm sorry all right well we'll correct that yeah i thought so [34:47] 22-2021 2020. sorry 2022 2023. we'll correct [34:54] that on the resolution okay [34:57] no additional questions or comments is there anyone in the audience that would [35:01] like to speak to this [35:04] saying none public comment is closed measures before us we have resolution [35:08] number 22-63 or 62 what's the will of our commission [35:14] mr mayor i mean for approval of resolution number 22-62 [35:19] thank you ma'am hi second thank you sir any further discussion [35:23] not hearing any roll call please vice mayor lee [35:26] hi commissioner the hope smith aye [35:29] commissioner cobb hi commissioner hawkins [35:32] mayor holland aye thank you thank you mike thank you and please tell your team [35:37] upstairs thank you so much for all their hard work i'll see you in two weeks [35:40] thank you sir madam attorney thank you so much if i [35:44] i'm sorry if i could point out each of you has a binder of the tentative budget [35:48] that was just approved on uh with the resolution [35:51] this is tentative as of the approval on the 22nd you will then get an adopted [35:58] budget and so [36:00] it should look uh practically exactly the same but you will get a second [36:04] version of that once you approve it thank you [36:08] now we're coming down to other business first one is discussion of downtown and [36:12] east town redevelopment agency board representative positions tom you want to [36:18] lead us with that one sure i don't have a formal presentation [36:22] this is something that we had instituted a few [36:26] years ago periodically we review [36:30] the um the need for the position [36:33] i think with the resignation of gail isaac thomas the thought was maybe it's [36:37] time to review this and so you have the staff report giving [36:42] some background and i will [36:45] turn it over to commission to see what your thoughts are on this thank you vice [36:49] mayor [36:52] i i'm in my opinion i think that we should eliminate the positions there's [36:57] no voting um anybody can come up and speak to us at any time [37:02] um i don't see the value in it and i would [37:07] like to propose that we just eliminate those positions and if anybody has [37:11] something to do they come up to say they come up as usual as they usually do and [37:16] present it okay because if they they have no voting power if we're not going [37:20] to do that then i think that there's no point in us having two people assigned [37:25] and giving up time and have no clout so okay [37:30] karen um [37:34] well i liked having the position i [37:37] i agreed that it didn't need to have voting power but i liked having [37:42] community [37:44] members up with us [37:47] and it gave people another [37:51] source of someone to go to with their concerns [37:55] so i'd like to see it stay on [37:59] i agree it doesn't need to be a voting position [38:02] but i like to have them up here with input [38:07] really um [38:10] i um i agree with karen i i think it's [38:14] important for the community to have uh [38:19] uh us say so uh to be involved uh i think in the last couple of months [38:25] there have been been positions available to come up and [38:32] we haven't had people that wanted to fill them [38:35] i think it's a stepping stone just like the code enforcement board [38:40] was a stepping stone for you and i i think it's a stepping stone to [38:46] you know to something bigger [38:50] although i don't agree that they should have voting power [38:54] because i think that only belongs to people that were voted on by the [38:57] majority of the uh people in the city [39:01] but i think it's important that [39:05] that the community has to say so and the community has the opportunity to be [39:09] involved uh [39:12] you know as much as possible so i think we should keep it [39:16] man well i see both sides i mean you know i [39:20] again i agree with you guys as well that i don't think it should be a voting [39:24] position because that's an elected position [39:27] by the residents of eustis so i i see that but [39:33] i see the same side of it as emily does that everybody always has an opinion no [39:39] one's ever not allowed to come before us [39:43] and you're also allowed to approach us at any time you know you're [39:48] allowed to approach us at any time and yes it is hard enough to get volunteers [39:52] it's very hard you know not everybody wants to take time out [39:57] you know everyone's got a busy schedule [40:01] but i also see if you want to use this for a stepping stone as well i see that [40:06] too so it's never been a case of not having [40:09] a voice because everyone's always always has a voice again [40:14] but there is no voting power to it so you know what i'm saying you can come to [40:18] us at any time always [40:21] but you can't vote so it's going to really [40:24] determine you know whether you want to [40:29] i guess i hate i hate to use the word waste of time because that's not it it's [40:32] just taking time out of your busy schedule [40:34] you know so um [40:38] yeah it it it it's it's a difficult call and it's a tough call [40:43] but um again i i'm a firm believer and again [40:46] like everybody else you know that that voting situation needs to be an elected [40:51] official so um [40:55] you know i i think it's it's important you know gail was on it [41:00] for two or three years and [41:05] and there were people that went to her and they talked to her about [41:10] things in the community and then before they came to us and and i i just [41:15] think that this is it's important to have that connection with the with [41:22] the community and you know and we'd like to think that [41:25] they they everyone would come up and talk to us [41:28] but a lot of people would probably go talk to a community member before they [41:33] would come and talk to us [41:37] i agree but we are part of the community yeah i am used as i am one we are one [41:42] so i understand that too so i you know i never really understood the separation i [41:48] really never understood it we are one use this i never understood [41:53] the separation the east and west i never but that was part of the original cra [41:58] set up so but that was done god two thousand [42:03] uh no it was um i can't i can't remember because you [42:07] know much that stuff i've read yeah it was um [42:11] 2018 is when we created the two community [42:15] positions the cra was created that's what i'm [42:18] saying yeah i mean technically it's always been one cra okay when we created [42:22] the two community positions that's when we [42:26] center street and center street extended was kind of the line to make sure that [42:30] we had representation we did i mean again technically it's [42:35] always been one cra at one point we did the plan for downtown separate [42:40] from the plan for east town but it was always one cra [42:45] so so [42:47] the cra committee the the newly formed committee commission a committee [42:53] um or the little advisory situation to me [42:57] that's where that's another opportunity for the community to [43:01] to to speak to i didn't see in my recollection a lot of um [43:09] a lot of people going to it also to me means that it's less likely maybe we [43:14] need to be able to be able to speak to the community but it puts like another [43:19] person there and i would rather them come to me and [43:22] talk as a commissioner elected commissioner they would come [43:26] and voice and let me know what their concerns are they always can come up [43:30] here and talk but also i want to have that kind of interaction [43:35] rather than a person in the middle but [43:39] you know i'm that's just a suggestion on my part but that does concern me and i [43:44] don't like um the idea that we're not approachable [43:49] that's what it sounds like to me i think sometimes we're not approachable uh but [43:55] i i don't think that please don't do that yeah i mean that that was [44:00] yeah i i don't think that having um [44:06] having uh you know members from the community [44:11] hurts us in any way uh he doesn't hurt us no no he doesn't [44:15] have us so [44:17] uh i think that you know uh input from every source uh you know every avenue [44:24] that we have only helps us so again i think we should [44:30] i'm torn too because i can see both sides [44:33] my recommendation would be to because it's what what's these four year [44:38] terms they're four year terms and they're staggered [44:41] maybe bring them back to one year and rotate it constantly [44:46] holy moly that's making staff look for somebody every [44:49] year people apply for it well people apply [44:53] for it yeah they apply [44:56] i i would rather see somebody stay on [45:00] for four years because that gives them a [45:02] feel of of how it works and [45:08] you know i know all of us are new up here at one time and you just don't know [45:12] you don't know until you know and [45:16] it's a learning process i think if you put someone up here for just a year now [45:21] they can apply again i'm sure but um you put someone up here for [45:26] a year they're just gonna figure it out and it'll be time to go [45:30] well if they're going to be here then they should have [45:33] i think more input than what what they've had in the past i mean [45:37] we're saying you can't vote so what are they here for they [45:41] they come up they say what they what has to be said or people come up and they [45:45] talk to us about it present their side of it sometimes [45:50] i think it's more taking it back to the community where they are [45:54] so i guess to me it just seems like [45:58] there's nothing no clout in it nothing no meat to it at all and they're just a [46:04] representative they're sitting here and that's it and they have no [46:08] real input or are [46:13] how to do anything or be affecting anything we do it we do it no matter [46:18] what i think you said that you know that the most important word was represented [46:24] uh they represent the people [46:26] and so do we really yeah but [46:31] i think it gives the community that feel that one of us [46:36] is actually up there and we we have a [46:42] we have input [46:45] i just think that that is important that we not [46:50] close down another avenue to connect with the [46:54] community and if we do that i still say that they [47:00] should have more input and more [47:04] um buy into it than they have well i agree [47:09] there should be there should be more input but i don't think that should be [47:12] uh voting input i i think that should be that should be delegated to people that [47:17] are elected but uh but i agree i think there should [47:20] be a little bit more say so [47:23] do we do two years mate you know kind of halfway [47:26] i'm just if keep in mind you know the way the process is done [47:32] they apply but we as a we as a commission get final [47:36] say so who sits on that cra board i mean i think it's in the questioning that we [47:41] would do of the candidates that come forward [47:44] and hope we get more than one i mean when when evan died [47:49] we had to beg to get somebody from the west side [47:53] um you know and i think several of us went to laurie at genie's and begged her [47:59] if she would come on this floor so um do they have a job description [48:07] [Music] [48:12] there are some requirements that so the state statute has some requirements for [48:18] people sitting on a cra board the city also has some requirements [48:23] we when we advertise it it goes out like a job description so it includes those [48:29] state requirements and if you um [48:32] if you refer to the um the staff report there's kind of some bullet points [48:38] and so there there is again i don't know if i would call it a [48:41] job description but there is a description of what we're looking for in [48:45] those representatives yes there was and when i did read now that you said i did [48:48] read the staff report and what they had said in here was um [48:54] they talked about [48:57] background if you will or knowledgeable in [49:00] finance what else was it tom [49:04] it's development architecture redevelopment planning land planning [49:08] finance experience experience in um [49:13] affordably priced housing [49:16] those types of things which is probably something that [49:20] the majority of us don't have [49:27] oh i beg to differ with that brother i said the majority [49:32] that i say i'd like to think that we've learned a [49:36] lot [49:43] well let's say this so now that if we're going to talk about [49:46] the we have the other one that that for the [49:51] the other one that the volunteer yeah the other volunteer [49:55] so keep one or the other [49:58] well we we were just we just had the committee just for the three acres [50:03] correct the three blocks well and we need to decide well that was [50:07] another decision we haven't come to a decision whether we want to keep that [50:10] group together or not exactly and that was another decision that we needed to [50:14] make as well i don't think it's it's we can't really discuss it tonight no no [50:19] but it was just but i think the whole thing needs to come [50:22] back to us and us decide which direction because that committee i think is [50:26] important too yeah i agree because it gives us a broad range of the of our [50:31] whole community um you know so [50:35] and and if we're going to do this i think that we need to [50:39] come up with [50:41] what is what are they supposed to be doing about technically like a job [50:46] description description of what it is that they are supposed to be doing but [50:50] as it is there's nothing and i and if and if [50:53] we're going to do this i think that we need to know what we know that we know [50:56] that we know we need to know yes and maybe if that's statutorily what [51:00] you had discussed about the statutory that has to be in there but then we can [51:05] come up with a because that's tough what what he does what you just it is [51:09] that statutory we have to get in there so maybe [51:12] you know yeah [51:15] i think it's worth a a further conversation because i i think we need [51:20] to find out from staff is through the need for that full board that or that [51:23] full group that we had that was meeting um and then uh really we need to [51:29] redefine that list of priorities because [51:34] willie's right oh no but i don't know did you say that was statutorily done [51:39] the um so the statues don't want to get in [51:42] trouble no you know the statute [51:47] talks about new members have to reside in or be engaged in business [51:52] in the cra uh and then i i believe it's more [51:57] um not not a requirement but it is suggested [52:01] that they have experience in architecture finance construction land [52:06] use sustainability and or redevelopment alternatively new [52:10] members will also qualify who have professional and or residential [52:15] experience within affordable housing [52:21] and if we have to do that there should be some definite training that's not [52:25] there [52:31] there are so annually [52:34] at the florida redevelopment association conference they have training sessions [52:40] um related to cra and that's something that [52:45] we can certainly uh have the um [52:49] community reps engage in some of that professional development [52:52] that's a great idea as an in-person or zoom or just a class [52:57] or they are back to in-person though for example this year fra is in daytona and [53:03] it's coming up in october and they are in person [53:07] that makes more sense i've always felt a sense of yeah nobody not really knowing [53:11] what you why you're here or that there are times [53:14] it's just so nothing to it and to me if we're going [53:18] to have them that they should be more valued than they valuable than they are [53:22] and maybe they would have a better understanding of what [53:26] we know and what we've learned in you at least you and i 18 months you know what [53:30] i'm saying so um it might be [53:33] i think we could also get lynn up here with the league of cities i mean coming [53:37] from orlando and she could do a course and i think it would be good for this [53:41] commission to actually sit in the same course [53:44] um so um i think what i would like to suggest to to us as a commission is [53:49] let's put this off to our next meeting bring it back re-advertise it so we can [53:53] talk more in public with it and also let's go ahead and and talk about that [53:58] other committee that we have and see if we want to sunset that [54:03] committee um and to make this stronger or what we want to do or keep both of [54:08] them even and i on my list for reports later in the meeting was to look at [54:13] calendars to to schedule the next meeting because it's been some time [54:17] so we do need to take a look at that and schedule the next meeting nana are you [54:21] okay with that plan absolutely are you okay [54:24] yeah karen are you okay [54:27] okay we'll we'll we'll go ahead and let you [54:30] reschedule that continue okay [54:34] yeah then we come down to oh gosh the next [54:37] one's a hard one city commission compensation [54:43] bill howe director of human resources at the last commission meeting [54:47] commission discussed the possibility of increasing compensation for the city [54:51] commission staff was directed to gather information from the other jurisdictions [54:55] in lake county i provided you that information for each of the 13 [54:59] jurisdictions in summary the compensation for city [55:03] commissioners ranges from a low of twenty four hundred [55:06] dollars annually to twelve thousand dollars annually and as a reminder city [55:11] commissioners and used to earn fifty four hundred dollars annually [55:15] mayor's compensations vary throughout the county from six thousand dollars to [55:20] fifteen thousand eight hundred and eighty eight dollars [55:23] um our eustace mayor earns sixty four hundred dollars annually with [55:27] regard to paid health benefits two jurisdictions in lake [55:32] county provide paid health benefits we do not in the city of eustis [55:37] the last increase in compensation to the eustace commission [55:41] occurred in 1989 33 years ago [55:51] it's recommending the commission advise staff if there should be any increases [55:57] or what [56:02] am i okay now mike to go forward [Laughter] [56:06] he was fixing to become a ranger again [56:11] staff is looking for a direction if there's any changes in compensation for [56:14] the commission staff would also recommend you consider tying future [56:17] increases to some [56:21] term that you don't bring back every 33 years for consideration [56:25] but whether that be the compensation granted i'll be dancing whether that [56:29] compensation be granted to other city employees consumer price index or [56:32] population that's done in a couple of the other cities so be happy to answer [56:37] any questions anybody got any questions of bill [56:41] so is this is something like this usually determined by the commission [56:45] itself yes [56:48] at school board level and county commission level it is done by the state [56:53] legislature by the size of your county we're the only ones that get stuck with [56:59] deciding our own pay it's embarrassing it is [57:04] lovely well you haven't done it in 33 years [57:07] there's reasons [Laughter] [57:09] hence the reason to consider timing to employee compensation that's addressed [57:13] every year but that's your calling yeah i uh [57:17] i'm sure i'm not alone up here but but i look at the pay [57:23] and there's only two [57:28] commissioners two two localities uh [57:33] that make more than what i pay out [57:38] as a city commissioner yeah [57:42] so we already started out in the hope [57:46] it's kind of like the cemetery i would at least like to break even yeah and i [57:50] haven't broken even since i've sat in this jail [57:53] and you know at the at the last meeting i was like [57:56] whatever but that was until i saw it in paper and i'm like yeah [58:01] yeah when you emailed it i couldn't believe it it was what but it [58:06] wasn't whatever i'm like what the but [58:13] well i mean we i'll just give you a good [58:16] example so and i'm not picking on anybody we look at fruitland park and [58:19] their population is just a little over nine thousand and they're making twelve [58:23] thousand dollars and we're at twenty three [58:27] six basically and we're at fifty four hundred you know [58:30] how far out of whack that is [58:35] and by no stretch am i suggesting 12 000 please understand me clearly [58:39] but i just look at that and then you look at somebody like [58:43] montverd montford yes 1700 they're this big [58:49] and there's 1700 people and they're at six thousand dollars look [58:54] at the mayors mm-hmm leesburg's not that much bigger than us [58:59] their commissioners are making 11 364. they're mayors making almost 16 000. and [59:05] they have all the benefits every benefit medical eye dental [59:11] and retire frs they also have frs [59:15] so i'm sure there will be [59:19] there will be some that would say uh [59:22] you know they're voting on enriching themselves [59:26] i see facebook tomorrow but i think i continue as a commissioner [59:32] sitting right here tonight i don't care what you say this [59:36] ain't right fix it i tell you [59:40] this ain't right [59:48] [Laughter] [59:57] we're gonna have to give direction to staff so i did look at the four percent [1:00:01] i think it was 216 dollars for the whole year [1:00:05] so see i i don't know how we give [1:00:09] direction to staff to i i don't know how we do it let your conscience be your [1:00:14] guide bill you're going to leave this to me [1:00:17] absolutely no problem i'll take care of it [1:00:20] no i mean you know i don't i don't just teasing with you i don't know well when [1:00:23] you look at leesburg and with groveland somehow we should be in the middle [1:00:32] you see that groveland is and that's just shut up thousands they just shot up [1:00:35] in that population that just shot up that's that's true that population that [1:00:39] just happened with the annexations they've been at 9 [1:00:42] 000 a year there for a long time and do you know if [1:00:47] these have been incremental no i do not know on all of them [1:00:52] i know claremont for example [1:00:55] they pass the doorness that your commission wages are tied to consumer [1:00:59] price index that's they've got that by ordinance [1:01:03] personally i tell you the heartburn with that is i know we've been a position [1:01:06] where we haven't been able to give staff consumer price index increases [1:01:11] so [1:01:13] you know for me to various ties there's to population [1:01:19] changes [1:01:23] i'm willing to leave it in the hands of bill to be honest with you [1:01:27] i suggest the city attorney weigh in on it [1:01:32] i don't want to lose the non-full-time employee that reports to you through the [1:01:36] city manager if you two want to work on it i'm perfectly fine with it [1:01:42] if you're comfortable we'll we'll look at the numbers we'll come up [1:01:46] with something reasonable i would recommend [1:01:50] moving although it's not much moving into the future i think rather [1:01:54] than coming back and looking like the percentage [1:01:58] increases are very big periodically i think we sh we should tie [1:02:03] it uh in the future to um the what the [1:02:07] other employees are getting again i know annually it doesn't come to a lot dollar [1:02:11] wise um but it puts you in a position where [1:02:15] you don't have to you don't have to look at significant increases periodically [1:02:20] you just do the incremental increases annually if that makes sense [1:02:24] um so i would recommend that moving into the future [1:02:28] and we i will work with bill we'll come up [1:02:31] with something reasonable and it will need to come back to you [1:02:35] potentially in the form of a budget approval meaning you you might not have [1:02:39] to approve this specifically you would approve it as [1:02:42] part of a budget or a budget amendment uh depending on [1:02:47] how the timing i don't [1:02:51] might do can we include it can we [1:02:55] we approved a tentative budget tonight but we have to approve a final budget on [1:02:59] the 22nd we approved the final budget in two [1:03:04] weeks on thursday what i would recommend is once it's decided we amend the budget [1:03:09] via resolution after 10-1 oh with the resolution [1:03:14] anytime you change the resolution you're putting into a budget [1:03:18] you have to have another resolution to do that [1:03:22] it would only require one reading not two [1:03:28] okay so under that scenario we would leave the final adopted budget the same [1:03:33] as what you approved tonight and then we would bring back to you an amendment [1:03:37] after the fact after october first okay yeah [1:03:40] the only other alternative would be to do it [1:03:48] no thank you okay we will bring something back to you all right and [1:03:52] you're okay with john and bill working on it [1:03:56] emily karen absolutely don't care do you [1:04:01] no pressure [1:04:07] all right thank you both yes all right then come down to life 15. [1:04:14] yeah so this is really just a technicality um [1:04:17] we have to place the order because of lead time and it's it's a significant [1:04:21] expense it is budgeted in the budget the tentative budget that you just approved [1:04:26] but we can't place the order because the money isn't there yet and it isn't there [1:04:31] until october 1st and so basically we're just asking for [1:04:35] consensus are you okay with us placing the order and then the actual purchase [1:04:40] documentation will have to come back to you once the budget is approved um so [1:04:45] are you okay with us placing the order is basically what we're asking these are [1:04:48] so important uh to us that we have to go ahead and get any cheaper [1:04:57] part of the issue is there's a significant price increase coming up so [1:05:01] if we waited to october 1 it would cost more [1:05:03] mike how long is it going to take to get these once we place an order [1:05:09] okay yeah get the get him ordered [1:05:15] wow all right [1:05:18] thank y'all i think that's what we needed okay thank [1:05:21] you all right coming down to future agenda [1:05:24] item and reports karen anything to report any future agenda items i am [1:05:31] done i mean i'm good you're not done yeah you got a few [1:05:35] months left okay [Laughter] [1:05:40] any future agenda items or anything to report i don't have any future agenda [1:05:44] items but i do have i just have one question for [1:05:48] is he still here rick pappas pop smurf you're here no he left it never mind i [1:05:53] just that's okay i'm just going to ask him for an island update that's all okay [1:05:57] okay but um uh uh [1:06:00] i would like to say that i will be attending [1:06:08] on tuesday next week on tuesday september 13th at noon at the lake [1:06:13] county historical museum they will be the unveiling of the mary [1:06:18] mcleod bethune smaller statue just like the one that we [1:06:23] went to daytona and looked at and just for those of you who don't know her i [1:06:27] would just feel just i'd like to read a little something [1:06:30] um uh dr mary mcleod bethune was an [1:06:32] american educator philanthropist humanitarian womanist and a civil rights [1:06:37] activist dr bethune founded the national council of negro women in 1935 with [1:06:43] florida's headquarters located in lake county's city of claremont [1:06:48] she also established the journal afro-american women's journal she [1:06:53] presided as president for a myriad of african-american women's organizations [1:06:58] including the national association for colored women and the national youth [1:07:01] administration's negro division dr bethune was also appointed as a [1:07:06] national advisor to president franklin d roosevelt who she worked with to create [1:07:11] the federal council on colored affairs also known as the black cabinet so just [1:07:16] in case you didn't know there's a little little education about mary mcleod [1:07:19] bethune so at noon on the 13th if you'd like to [1:07:22] join us um that original big statue that they unveiled in daytona was the most [1:07:27] stunning thing i've ever seen in my entire life i i it was the most [1:07:31] beautiful thing ever and we i enjoyed going so um i will be there for that [1:07:35] also too um well i'll let you you want to talk about the 911 one yeah okay i'll [1:07:40] let you discuss that and then um i'm in the process of looking at something for [1:07:44] the city of eustis um just looking some information on america in bloom [1:07:48] and the city of tavares currently has it now and you have like little chapters [1:07:52] and lake county has a chapter and so it's just another way to beautify our [1:07:55] city and um there are some things through waste management we can guess to [1:08:00] some beautify uh different islands and different [1:08:03] things around the city so i'm going to be working on that as well so beautiful [1:08:07] i'm a little busy thank you really [1:08:10] okay you want to follow that go ahead i'll follow all that [1:08:16] absolutely not you know the the the last week and a [1:08:20] half i've spent at the high school painting the [1:08:25] bathrooms in the concession stands um [1:08:29] so we read i redid those uh [1:08:33] but uh in the next probably month or so we're actually going to [1:08:38] do the concession stand itself uh the interior yep so [1:08:44] if anyone wants to come out and help paint i'll pick a weekend [1:08:47] perfect funding is a real problem with our high school sports as you know [1:08:52] lake county and school system does not do much anymore to support that willie [1:08:58] and i have talked a little bit man about maybe trying to do something like [1:09:02] bulldog night like they're doing umatilla it's hearing [1:09:09] 30 000 instantly into the sports programs that [1:09:12] used to size minimum um so i would like to see us as a commission maybe work [1:09:17] with um the um athletic director and the high [1:09:21] school to try to put together something like that that became an annual event [1:09:25] for us uh here in the city of eustis i think [1:09:27] we'd have to hold it at the fairgrounds um but i think it's something that would [1:09:31] be kind of cool yeah the uh the umatilla boosters holds it at the um [1:09:37] and it is an adult event there are adult things that happen there [1:09:42] and so um children are not involved because there's raising of a lot of [1:09:46] money right and there's adult things there so um it's a huge event it's a [1:09:50] wonderful event all the community matilla comes out for it [1:09:54] everybody you've come with me before it's amazing [1:09:58] and um so yes i'll i'll be more than happy to assist in that okay let's do it [1:10:03] sounds good i also the new announcer for the high school football games that does [1:10:07] the announcing he is um with a radio station out of orlando and he is willing [1:10:12] to help us with that as well okay so we'll get working on that [1:10:17] anything else willie nope that's it vice mayor [1:10:20] well i was very happy to participate and to [1:10:25] watch the events of the misuse this contest we were on there it was really [1:10:30] awesome and um [1:10:32] and fun to watch especially the little ones little tiny ones and their [1:10:36] attention span so it was it was a nice event i didn't get to stay as long as i [1:10:41] would have liked to yesterday but it was very interesting at advent hospital with [1:10:45] their new robotics uh program and and the equipment that [1:10:48] they bought i i was very impressed with that [1:10:51] and um other than that i'm looking forward to [1:10:54] the 13th and the 9 11 event that's it beautiful thank you [1:11:00] tom yeah a few items um we're going to have [1:11:04] a presentation for you um [1:11:11] gunster uh who has done some legal work for us [1:11:14] related to um some growth items [1:11:19] they're going to be doing a presentation uh at an upcoming commission meeting i [1:11:23] believe we've got them scheduled for september 22nd [1:11:27] also i had emailed the commission about a [1:11:30] community development district discussion uh we we're tentatively going [1:11:35] to try to do a presentation on october 6th for that [1:11:41] that is your first commission meeting in october [1:11:46] lake uh lake community action agency [1:11:50] has been working on our uh housing rehab program [1:11:54] uh commissioner hawkins and i uh toured uh i think three homes [1:11:59] and uh were satisfied there was one home that had some unfinished items that they [1:12:04] got right on and so uh i want to ask uh is there [1:12:09] consensus uh to move forward um not reopening the [1:12:13] application process but there are still homes [1:12:16] in the queue that have applied and that we had put on hold is it okay to move to [1:12:20] the next say three or four homes because we've been kind of taking them [1:12:24] in blocks of three or four does anybody have an issue moving [1:12:28] forward with the next three or four homes [1:12:30] we saw funds left we do have it's like 111 [1:12:35] eight something like that yeah i think that i think that assumed [1:12:39] that all the homes on the list were going to move through the program [1:12:44] yeah yeah i i have to say you know that [1:12:49] uh tim has done a pretty good job of [1:12:53] cleaning things up so yeah okay [1:12:58] man you're okay with moving forward how many moving [1:13:03] of our forward let's do it we're going to do increments [1:13:06] of four i think that's what we discussed can they [1:13:08] karen you okay [1:13:11] okay um [1:13:13] there was um i one of the commissioners uh it may have been commissioner cobb [1:13:18] had asked about taking a look at [1:13:21] residential densities and potentially a new future land use category [1:13:27] and i want to know if the commission would like to try to schedule a workshop [1:13:31] on that this i would envision this would not be [1:13:35] a five o'clock before a six o'clock [1:13:38] commission type workshop this would probably be a standalone [1:13:42] potentially even a saturday workshop what is the commission's [1:13:47] interest in scheduling something like that [1:13:50] we have some cleanup work that needs to be done [1:13:53] so we need to get on that willie are you okay with it oh yeah [1:14:01] is it maybe i'll start looking at calendars and and try to email and see [1:14:06] if we could come up with a viable date okay [1:14:09] um just a couple more fdot uh we have a meeting tomorrow 9 30 a.m we have [1:14:15] advertised it as a city commission meeting so that you can all attend and [1:14:18] participate um [1:14:21] that is uh with the secretary of district 5 to talk about projects and [1:14:26] maintenance in the area i do want to mention that [1:14:32] there may be a need to go out into the field at some point [1:14:37] we will need to adjourn the meeting and then have just one commissioner go out [1:14:41] into the field because the logistics of carrying on a [1:14:45] commission meeting out in the field is going to be very difficult [1:14:50] and so if if we do need to adjourn and do some field work i just wanted to [1:14:55] throw out that it will have to adjourn the meeting and have one commissioner do [1:14:58] that and so that's tomorrow at 9 30 a.m [1:15:02] and then the cra review committee we have a couple of outstanding items i [1:15:07] know we need to talk more about mode own program [1:15:11] we need to talk a little bit more about some of the priorities that were [1:15:15] established during public input and so we do need to schedule that [1:15:19] i think in the past we had done tuesday evening meetings for that group [1:15:26] or we could look at an off thursday a non-commission thursday [1:15:31] but i just want to make sure that the commission is interested in scheduling [1:15:34] the next meeting again i'll take a look at calendars and [1:15:38] i'll get that scheduled but i'll probably be looking at either a tuesday [1:15:42] or an off thursday okay and i think that's everything i [1:15:46] have wow all right thank you madam attorney i have no report smith thank [1:15:51] you so much i appreciate it um a couple of things that i have um [1:15:57] for the commission itself um is tom's contract calls for a six-month review [1:16:03] and believe it or not it's time for that review [1:16:06] what i would like to do is ask bill howell to reach out and set up a meeting [1:16:11] with each commissioner along with bill and with tom [1:16:15] let you all sit and talk with tom about what your expectations are and what [1:16:21] we've seen so far with his performance bill will combine that and bring it back [1:16:25] to us as a full commission um and we'll go from that and then we're going to [1:16:30] have to take a look at the way we further review tom a little bit later on [1:16:34] down the road if that's okay the annual review because i will say um i've looked [1:16:38] at the review paperwork in the past and i had even talked to bill about it you [1:16:43] know and it it needs some work yeah it needs some work it needs to be updated [1:16:47] so um when you get a call from bill or an email from bill that's what he is [1:16:51] scheduling with you um so um please go in be honest and it'll keep us [1:16:57] moving forward in a good way manner i hope so all right [1:17:01] this coming sunday is the 21st anniversary of 9 11. [1:17:05] lake county is having a service at 8 o'clock in the morning [1:17:11] at the historic courthouse in downtown [1:17:14] tavares it is open to the public we would love [1:17:17] to have everyone there then there are a couple more events [1:17:20] going around so please check the uh facebook and check the newspapers there [1:17:25] are many things that are advertised nan myself and tom were able to attend [1:17:32] first baptist life point uh last sunday they celebrated their 103rd anniversary [1:17:38] or birthday and they celebrated being debt-free which is tremendous they paid [1:17:44] off a debt of 1.8 million dollars in a matter of five years [1:17:49] and that is from them relocating from orange avenue out further [1:17:53] so it's paid off every bit of their debt so they're looking forward to partnering [1:17:58] with our community and doing some really great things in the community as we move [1:18:02] forward also just wanted to say [1:18:06] thank you to our events and tourism staff they [1:18:11] went to a conference and they won five awards at that conference they're doing [1:18:16] i'm very proud of them they've done a tremendous job [1:18:20] with representing eustis and first fridays and our events have really [1:18:25] changed over the last couple months i'm very [1:18:28] proud of that that's about all i've got please come [1:18:33] out and support the events as they go on craig's got some great events coming up [1:18:38] with parks and recreation for toddlers [1:18:42] so come out and be a part of those events i want to thank our staff for all [1:18:46] that they do y'all work tirelessly for us y'all are truthfully the face of the [1:18:50] city so thank you for all your hard work thank you for being with us tonight and [1:18:55] we are i just had one quick thing i meant to say go ahead hit that camera [1:18:59] i just i i just really wanted to say thanks [1:19:03] to the finance staff [1:19:06] going through this the when we went through our workshops and i think we [1:19:11] must have had three or four i will tell you that helps us [1:19:14] tremendously i know it's a lot of work but when we go line item by light on him [1:19:19] it really helps us know what we're spending our money on [1:19:23] and you'd be surprised the people out in the community that come to us and say [1:19:27] where's the money going where's this where's that and we have [1:19:32] we have a good indication no we don't know how many pencils we're buying but [1:19:35] at least we know what we're spending on office supplies and different [1:19:38] departments and so it's a lot of work and [1:19:42] i'm a numbers person so i will tell you i really enjoy that process i know it's [1:19:46] daunting but i just want to say thank you [1:19:49] one quick reminder too tomorrow is the league of cities luncheon and uh sheriff [1:19:53] grinnell is doing that presentation at lunch tomorrow so if anybody can make it [1:19:57] on the city commission we'd appreciate you being here that is all we have for [1:20:00] this evening we're adjourned were you gonna come here