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good evening everyone welcome to the

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Eustis City Commission meeting this is

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our regular City commission meeting it

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p.m if you would like to join us in a

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moment of silence and the pledge to our

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flag please stand

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amen commissioner Smith join me in the

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pledge I pledge allegiance

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of the United States of America and to

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the Republic for which it stands one

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nation under God indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all

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thank you all

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officially call our meeting to order

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Christine and Sarah corn president

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proper notice been given yes thank you

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so much Tom an agenda update yes sir

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agenda item 5.1 and 5.2 we would like to

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remove those from consent and put those

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under ordinances public hearings and

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quasi-judicial hearings so in effect

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we're just moving them from one section

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to another and they're still in the same

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order on the agenda perfect thank you

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sir next we have approval of minutes and

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we have the minutes from July 5th 2022

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regular City commission meeting what's

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the will of the commission absolutely

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second thank you first to second any

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further discussion not hearing any roll

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call please commissioner hope Smith aye

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commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

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Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

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first off we've got the Eustis High

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School future Business Leaders of

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America come on up

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it's good to have you all with us

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tonight

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thank you so much for the invitation

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good evening mayor vice mayor City

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commissioners and the city manager and

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the City attorney and

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the city of Houston staff my name is

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Sonja white I am the FBLA advisor for

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Eustis High School this is our second

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year and we want to say thank you so

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much we do have a small PowerPoint

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presentation

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and first of all I want to say a huge

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heartfelt thank you for the City of

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Eustis thank you so much for supporting

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our students last year we had the

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opportunity to travel to Chicago for the

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future Business Leaders of America

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national competition we had two students

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from Houston this was like the first

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time in about eight years I believe that

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we had two students to compete in the

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National even though they did not place

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in Nashville but the experience and the

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exposure that they got was just totally

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phenomenal and one of the students she

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was currently a freshman in Dallas Texas

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at Baylor University so she was in FBLA

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pretty much our whole time at Eustis

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High School so we are very excited for

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her but also we're excited to kick off

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this year and I just wanted to let the

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audience know exactly what your donation

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and your support for Eustis High School

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what we're doing we have a a few

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community events that we like to do this

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year and of course it's the continuation

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of the socks for seniors where we donate

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socks to we have adopted Lake Eustis

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nursing home and the Eustis Head Start

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program we are providing socks for their

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children and providing socks for their

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seniors it's no cost to them this is our

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community event for the FBLA and of

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course this year we're going to support

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and kick off the March of Dimes which is

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fbla's

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um baby that's their baby of fundraisers

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I mean community events and of course

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Eustis High School we are doing the

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panther Pantry because you know with the

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um pandemic a lot of people lost jobs a

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lot of families are in need but we are

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so thankful for you since high school

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where we can contribute non-perishable

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food items some of us give out our

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pockets and some of us have like

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relatives that have small businesses

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that donate to that and believe it or

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not this year

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the staff the administrative has told us

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that there is a huge need and what they

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have done was they put together a survey

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where the students can go in confidence

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they will go on a complete a survey

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letting us know who is in need and what

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they're in need of and it's on both

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campuses it's on the ninth grade Center

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and on the main campus as well so

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this is very dear um of course FBLA does

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a lot of Charity and yes we do solicit

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donations but we give back as well and

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I'm so excited to be the advice and I'm

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so excited tonight I have our district

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director and Miss Debbie sear here with

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me she's

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showed me the ropes and guided me

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through this so I'm very thankful for

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that our food box drive that we are

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doing is of course during the month of

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November it kicks off October 1st the

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time for the students to leave for the

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Thanksgiving holidays and you know a lot

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of students are dependent on the free

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breakfast and the free lunch so we are

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going to start early at any time you can

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do drop off there will be a box place on

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both campuses for the non-perishable

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food items of course items that they can

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use if they don't have any electricity

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we do have students that are homeless we

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have students that are in shelters

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and in foster care but we're trying to

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do our best uh we are blessed to have

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these things and we are giving back to

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our community as well so we will be

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doing that both November and December

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um these are just pictures from our

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previous just to let you know that we're

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just not up here talking we have

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evidence of what we're doing and the

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kids they enjoy giving back um this is

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uh miss here and I we were at the Lake

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Eustis nursing home and of course we

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have their permission

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um to post their pictures and we're so

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thankful for the City of Eustis that

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come out when we had our heritage

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festival at the Eustis campus and also

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we give back to the um uses Head Start

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program and this is our food drive that

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we're giving back now what we're asking

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for because I'm so excited that we had

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our first meeting and we had 15 new

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students to want to be a part of it so

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they were aware of what FBLA was doing

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at uses and also the opportunities that

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we're giving them we're very thankful

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that we're again the local community to

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partner with us they have businesses and

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I'm so proud that over the summer one of

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the local business here in Eustis hired

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one of our students for the summer

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program and another one that was in

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Leesburg even though they were in Lake

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County they hired our students so not

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only are we being involved we're

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competing nationally but we are training

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our students in our CTE program to be

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equipped and to be ready to

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be productive citizens in Corporate

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America as well we um we have combined

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with um the encourage it's an

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organization that is doing a survey to

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see where our students want to go to

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college offer them scholarships give

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them those resources that in a normal

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setting they would not get it so we are

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very thankful that the FBLA students and

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Entrepreneurship program at Eustis High

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School we can get that stuff that makes

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sure that this next generation will not

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be a forgotten generation would not be a

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Lost Generation because we are Village

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Keepers and we are here to help equip

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our students so I am asking if the City

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of Eustis along with the entire Lake

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County those that have small businesses

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or are aware of a business if they can

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give a donation

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if they can give her a donation

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um to Eustis High School to the FBLA

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program we are going to be competing at

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a local level a state level and

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hopefully again this year on the

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national level we're excited that this

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year come November our elective officers

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will be participating in the fall

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National Conference which will be held

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in Orlando so we're getting them early

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to get them ready so I'm super excited

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about that I'm super excited that

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they're here learning about government

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even though it is almost an election

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year but every little bit helps and we

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want them to be equipped we want them to

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be prepared we're educating them that at

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16 you can pre-register to vote so we

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want them to know everything that there

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is to know and how to be successful

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productive positive citizens so as the

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FBLA advisor I am asking if you would

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just think back you can process or when

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you was in high school or when you was

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trying to find that job did you not have

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the tools that you needed to be

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successful did you not know how to type

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how to write a resume how to fill out an

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application so remember our students of

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Eustis High School

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all the information is up there and we

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do have flyers in different colors for

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you to have and just to read over and

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let you know what FBLA is all about and

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like I said we are Village Keepers and

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it takes a whole village as you can see

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in the last three years it's taken

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everybody it's taking the local grocery

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store manager is taking Miss Jones

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across the street it's taking the

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babysitter you know the Publix person

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the library and everybody to help shape

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and mold our citizens our students for

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the Next Generation they're going to be

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the ones when we retire being the

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decision making so we want to make sure

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that they are equipped and they have

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everything that they need to be

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successful and I thank you so much for

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your time Sonya thank you so much thank

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you for what you're doing with that

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program when I was in high school at

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Eustis it was a strong program and

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you're growing it back to what it used

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to be so thank you so much thank you

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would you like to introduce some of your

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students yes I'm asking all of my

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students so please stand up we're so

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glad some of them are trying out for the

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flag football

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and I'm so glad that their parents came

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with them their parents didn't just

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dropped them off they're here as well so

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we are a family and then to take once

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again it takes a village and I thank you

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for your time Sonia thank you and we'll

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get that on our website also to help you

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out okay thank you so much thank you oh

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also yes ma'am the City of Eustis did

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financially last year I just want to let

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you know and I think the citizens for

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everything that you've done thank you

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next we've got recognition of our Miss

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Eustis Queens I'm going to ask Rachel

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Henderson to come up and help me Rachel

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is a former Miss Eustis and has been

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running the program since 2017 and I am

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very proud of Rachel and all she's done

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you can help me introduce our young

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ladies we just had this pageant when um

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August right yes August end of August

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and every one of these girls did a

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fantastic job

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absolutely and I'm going to tell you we

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don't have any better ambassadors than

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the ladies that serve through the Miss

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Eustis program this commission works

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hard on a daily basis trying to get out

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in the public but I'm going to tell you

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these people really these young ladies

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really touch a lot of folks when they're

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out in the community so I look forward

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to working with each one of you for the

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next year I mean I know the rest of the

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Commissioners are excited so I've got

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some pins behind us I'll let you grab a

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pen and what we're going to do we're

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going to give you your pins tonight and

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at the end of the year we'll give them

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their certificates okay let's go ahead

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and start with many Miss Eustis and

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that's Blake Bill Blake can you come up

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here

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come on Blake

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and I know we don't want to take this

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away from from Blake but Blake's mama is

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the coach of our uh

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state championship softball team at

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Eustis High School so she's here tonight

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too I think so

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next we have the tiny misuse and that's

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Delaney Poe van Durham is that correct

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Bender me okay come on up

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hi

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and next we have Little Miss Eustis and

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that's Caroline Flint Carolyn how are

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you

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beautiful

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and next we have Junior Miss Eustis and

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that's Sydney Savory Sydney how are you

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tonight good

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and then teen misused us we have Lauren

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simple is that correct Lauren how are

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you good

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and then our misuse this year is Taylor

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Davidson Taylor how are you good

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so

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[Applause]

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what we're going to do is I'm going to

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get the commission to stand we're going

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to kind of Center the girls there we'll

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take a picture we'll get this out on

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Facebook

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okay

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everybody okay

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it's me

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look right here

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perfect okay so we got some parrots we

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got some parents

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congratulations

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I'll be there

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Fall Festival I love it thank you all

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have a great night thank you you say

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thank you

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[Applause]

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give them just a second so they can

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leave

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and next we have comprehensive plan and

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Joint planning area review Tom yes

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um

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as you will remember uh we secured the

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services of gunster law firm uh to

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review some items related to our

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comprehensive plan and the joint

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planning area agreement with Lake County

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and so we have here tonight Derek Bruce

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and Jack Rice from gunster who are going

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to talk to you a little bit about their research you should have received

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some information from City attorney

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Derek Shroff related to their findings

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but they're here to present those

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findings tonight thank you good to see

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you my friend mayor good to see you as

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well Commissioners a pleasure to be with

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you all this evening and uh Tom thank

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you very much for uh for that

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introduction uh so on on this particular

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assignment what uh what I thought would

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be really beneficial is to uh is to

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utilize when you have resources like our

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firm does and that we can make available

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to you we have people with with very

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specific expertise and and the person

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that that I thought would be best suited

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for the for the assignment and the

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research and giving you all the the

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advice for which you were looking on the

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map 19 issue is Jack Rice uh Jack has

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been uh either legal counsel or special

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counsel to five different uh uh cities

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and and counties as well as has a

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master's degree in in urban planning and

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so he is intimately familiar with uh

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with the issues that that you have asked

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about and and really dove in so I'm

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gonna turn it over to Jack who's got a

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little presentation uh that uh

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will hopefully give you all the

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information you need and we'll be here

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for questions as well thank you Gary

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welcome Chad thank you thank you mayor

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thank you Derek good morning good

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evening everybody thank you for having

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me

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um

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just as Derek said my name is Jack Rice

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I'm attorney at gunster and I prime

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practice primarily in the areas of land

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use and Zoning I will warn you that I am

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also a nerd when it comes to planning

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and learning which means that there are

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lots of details in my head so I'm going

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to try to go through this as quickly and

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succinctly as possible but feel free to

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follow up and ask me some you know

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general questions if you have any

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um the first thing I kind of wanted to

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look

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kind of look at everything from a

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sky-high view the questions that we were

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assigned and what the results were and

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then we'll kind of go into the details

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so the first question that we were

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opposed with was weather removal of map

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19 would invalidate the city of eustis's

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jpa with the county the answer is no

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resolution 87 34 that establishes the

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jpa that is going to remain in effect

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even if map 19 is removed from your comp

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plan the reason is is because this

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resolution is an independent legal

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instrument it has a map attached to it

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and that map identifies the areas where

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the provisions related to

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intergovernmental coordination

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annexation and just general you know

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joint planning occur so even if map 19

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is removed the jpa's obligations and

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those boundaries will remain unchanged

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because of the map attached to your

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resolution that is still in effect with

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the county

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um the next question was whether removal

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of map 19 would create some

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inconsistencies or otherwise be

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incompatible with the comp plans of

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either the county or Eustis the answer

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there again is No removal of map19 will

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really create no inconsistencies with

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either comp plan there is some text

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within your own comprehensive plan that

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will need to be changed just to avoid

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internal inconsistencies which is as a

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general policy matter your comp plan

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will remain the same and will remain in

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effect and it'll be fine

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there will also be no issue if the

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County's comp plan as I'll point out

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during my presentation the County's comp

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plan actually does not make reference to

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the jpa with Eustis

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in fact it after our review it actually

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seems that if you removed map 19 it

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would really offer a lot of clarity and

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eliminate a lot of confusion and then

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finally we were asked to look at math 19

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and the effect of the interlocal

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agreement you all have with Mount Dora

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and once again the answers no there

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wouldn't be an issue there because your

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interlocal agreement with Mount Dora

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would continue to remain as a

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freestanding legal agreement it has a

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map attached and that agreement and map

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have their own obligations which would

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continue even if mat 19 is removed

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um so to quickly go through things in

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Greater detail

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um resolution 8734 as we've just talked

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about it today that's rather older

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documents from July of 87. it was

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executed by both the City of Eustis and

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the county it allowed usages to Annex

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properties into a jpa area that were

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identified on a map that's being shown

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on the screens in front of you it also

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said that eventually that a jpa plan

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would be mutually adopted by both the

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county and Eustis and that that plan

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once it was adopted would would

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basically guide the growth for this area

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and then one of the notable portions of

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the resolution that says quote until

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then the city and county and the interim

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period will regulate development in the

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jpa in accordance with their currently

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adopted comprehensive plans in any

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Amendment and when we started to go

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through the history of the Eustis plan

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it it we found basically in records that

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the county never actually no Mutual

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adoption occurred so the status

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currently is zero resolution is what

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governs until the two bodies come

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together and are able to adopt a plan

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and outline their future

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and the way we found that out was we we

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went back in history and we looked at

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your first plan and what I'm showing up

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on the map right now that is the one of

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the maps that was attached and

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identified in your first comprehensive

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plan as the the map of the Eustis area

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now I'm assuming everybody in this room

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knows even better than myself that when

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you look at that map that includes areas

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that are not in the City of Eustis and

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so what was interesting was when we

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contacted the Florida Department of

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Economic Opportunity which is the

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current successor to the Department of

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Community Affairs we were we had to go

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through the record records and we were

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told first a we found a memorandum that

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you know recited the fact that the

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county never adopted this plan but it

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also said that you know this map created

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confusion because it's got two different

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sets two different jurisdictions within

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it and it said only Eustis can basically

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you know Implement planning designations

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for properties in Eustis and by putting

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designations for both useless properties

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and the county in one you're creating

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some confusion

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and it appears that that that confusion

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kind of persisted

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um once again the original comp plans

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memos or from DCA basically said their

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recommendation was that you try to pull

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the two maps apart so that you had one

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that identified just properties and

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Eustis and one that identified

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properties in the other in the county

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and the rationale was because the County

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Properties could not be planned really

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by Eustis and so like I said that

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confusion appears to have persisted

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because in 2010 when the city was

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reviewing its comprehensive plan a

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consultant came in and basically

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suggested that you guys take the maps

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apart and have one showing just Eustis

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and one showing just County or just this

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jpa area

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but in effect what happened was you had

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another map that was adopted showing the

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both the planning designations for both

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cities

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um and so

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what I'm showing on the map is basically

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it's still map19 today it was adapted in

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2010 and it's still presently in your

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comprehensive plan when we take a closer

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look at it you can see that there are

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some language and some policies in it or

553
00:23:49,020 --> 00:23:50,280
actually referenced on it that kind of

554
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,539
show that this was probably never

555
00:23:51,539 --> 00:23:55,260
intended to really become a binding plan that would you know

556
00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:58,020
regulate this body so if we zoom in it's

557
00:23:58,020 --> 00:23:59,580
not really showing up on this screen I

558
00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:03,140
apologize but you'll see references to a

559
00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:06,179
non-transmitted map a draft map a

560
00:24:06,179 --> 00:24:09,360
working copy and so these basically tell

561
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,220
us what probably got happened what may

562
00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:12,600
have happened was you know the wrong

563
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
document got put in when things got sent

564
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,400
off to the DCA to be adopted but in

565
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,799
effect the current the current document

566
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:21,780
just really creates confusion and it

567
00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:24,059
doesn't need to be there and there are

568
00:24:24,059 --> 00:24:26,460
other policies within your comp plan

569
00:24:26,460 --> 00:24:28,740
that do address

570
00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:30,000
um

571
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,940
I'm sorry the the do address the or

572
00:24:32,940 --> 00:24:35,280
acknowledge the existence of the jpa so

573
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,500
even if map 19 was pulled out there are

574
00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:39,000
freestanding policies within your

575
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,919
comprehensive plan that reference the

576
00:24:40,919 --> 00:24:42,900
existence of that jpa and will continue

577
00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:46,200
to continue to bind you and also

578
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,240
basically show the city's commitment to

579
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,820
work with the county within the jpa area

580
00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:52,380
for purposes of annexation and

581
00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:54,659
intergovernmental coordination

582
00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:57,179
before we really you know opine on you

583
00:24:57,179 --> 00:24:58,320
know the effect it will have on the

584
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,820
county plan we had to look at the county

585
00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:01,799
plan and what we found was the county

586
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:03,659
plan really doesn't mention the jpa with

587
00:25:03,659 --> 00:25:06,000
Eustis we know that the county is aware

588
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,700
of the resolution and that they

589
00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:10,260
currently consider it to still be in

590
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:12,299
effect but the comprehensive plan itself

591
00:25:12,299 --> 00:25:14,520
it doesn't make any mention of the jpa

592
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,140
what I'm showing on the screen right now

593
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:17,880
is the future the County's future Lane

594
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,919
use map exhibit number five which

595
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:22,980
identifies the various joint planning

596
00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,919
areas within uh the County's

597
00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:28,140
jurisdictions and what you'll see is it

598
00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:31,500
shows jbas with Lady Lake Claremont and

599
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,480
Mount Dora but not Eustis and that's

600
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,220
likely because the county is aware just

601
00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:36,840
like I said before that the resolution

602
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,299
itself continues to kind of stand on its

603
00:25:39,299 --> 00:25:41,820
own and bind the two entities

604
00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:43,260
um and so in regard to the first two

605
00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:45,539
questions it's pretty clear that removal

606
00:25:45,539 --> 00:25:47,100
of map 19 would not create any

607
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,080
inconsistencies with Eustis or the

608
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,640
county plans

609
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,100
if anything it will create you know

610
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,020
Clarity for individuals when they're

611
00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:57,539
looking at the Eustis plan and it will

612
00:25:57,539 --> 00:25:58,980
really kind of clear things up because

613
00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:00,840
the one thing you'll have which will

614
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,400
continue to bind that you can point

615
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,080
people to is the original resolution

616
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,320
which is what set all of this up

617
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,240
um in regard to Mount Dora

618
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,400
which is which is what we're discussing

619
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,559
you know question number three

620
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,779
um mount doors basically you guys have

621
00:26:15,779 --> 00:26:17,580
an interlocal agreement with them you

622
00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:19,440
entered into that into local agreement

623
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,940
in 2003 it expires in December of 2023

624
00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:26,279
unless it's terminated it is an

625
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,080
automatically renewing agreement and

626
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,299
what does it do it sets out purposes and

627
00:26:30,299 --> 00:26:32,340
terms for planning providing utilities

628
00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:33,960
as well as intergovernmental

629
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,720
coordination and most notably it says

630
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,460
that Eustis and Mount Dora will not

631
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:40,799
Annex any property in each other's

632
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,840
planning areas and identifies that

633
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,580
planning area by resort to a map that

634
00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:46,260
I'm showing on the screen

635
00:26:46,260 --> 00:26:48,659
and

636
00:26:48,659 --> 00:26:51,179
it basically it says that you know this

637
00:26:51,179 --> 00:26:53,220
map will take effect once Eustis

638
00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:55,559
acknowledges it and once the county got

639
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:57,299
I'm sorry once Mount Dora acknowledge it

640
00:26:57,299 --> 00:26:59,400
and their comprehensive plans you have a

641
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,260
text provision and your comprehensive

642
00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:03,059
plan I believe it's intergovernmental

643
00:27:03,059 --> 00:27:06,059
coordination policy 1.3.5 which

644
00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:07,919
basically States or recognizes the

645
00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:09,960
existence of the interlocal agreement it

646
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,179
says that you will continue to work with

647
00:27:12,179 --> 00:27:14,220
it and be bound by it and that you'll

648
00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:16,140
continue to work with Mount Dora to uh

649
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:19,020
to honor it so Eustis is fulfilled it's

650
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:21,419
part of the bargain in that regard what

651
00:27:21,419 --> 00:27:23,159
is the mount doors comprehensive plan

652
00:27:23,159 --> 00:27:27,299
say again it's got language

653
00:27:27,299 --> 00:27:29,100
I'm sorry this is the language in the

654
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:30,539
Eustis comprehensive plan that

655
00:27:30,539 --> 00:27:32,279
acknowledges the existence of the jpa

656
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:33,600
not the jpa with the interlocal

657
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,510
agreement

658
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,320
and next I have the language and the

659
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,059
Mount Dora comprehensive plan that talks

660
00:27:42,059 --> 00:27:44,100
about and acknowledges the existence of

661
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:46,980
the interlocal agreement with Eustis

662
00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,860
so if you remove map 19 you won't be

663
00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:51,720
touching this these languages in either

664
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,580
comprehensive plan those will continue

665
00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:55,260
to be in existence and you'll continue

666
00:27:55,260 --> 00:27:57,120
to be bound by the interlocal agreement

667
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,760
and it really won't have any effect on

668
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520
the interlocal agreement status with

669
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,440
Mount Dora

670
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,000
um so that's kind of how we got to our

671
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,740
answers I've I know I've set them out in

672
00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:08,940
Greater detail but I hope I haven't

673
00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:10,679
bored you all to death if you guys have

674
00:28:10,679 --> 00:28:12,360
any questions I'm more than happy to

675
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,679
answer to them and it's been a pleasure

676
00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:16,020
to look into both y'all's histories and

677
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:17,159
futures

678
00:28:17,159 --> 00:28:20,950
any questions subject

679
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,240
yeah good job he brought Clarity for me

680
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,140
because I I read every bit of this and I

681
00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:31,799
just it was nice to have legal

682
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,320
view overview of this whole entire thing

683
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,000
you know sometimes we can interpret

684
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,279
things differently and to have someone

685
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,159
give us a legal you know a view of it is

686
00:28:41,159 --> 00:28:43,500
wonderful because I was getting

687
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:46,620
yes no yes no yes no yes no and finally

688
00:28:46,620 --> 00:28:48,240
I said I'm not doing anything until we

689
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,120
get some clarity so I it helps me

690
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,159
tremendously thank you we're glad we

691
00:28:53,159 --> 00:28:53,960
could help

692
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,520
thank you so much Derek thank you so

693
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,080
much

694
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,700
Tom I'd like to go ahead and ask that

695
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:02,340
this be put on a future agenda so we can

696
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:03,960
go ahead and clarify this

697
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,100
okay

698
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,960
thank you

699
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,240
next we come down to audience to be

700
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,559
heard

701
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:12,419
um and this is about anybody I'd like to

702
00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:13,980
speak about something but it's not on

703
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:16,020
our agenda this evening got anybody's

704
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:18,419
home uh yes I have a card for niana

705
00:29:18,419 --> 00:29:21,240
Patel okay

706
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,580
hi Mrs Patel hello

707
00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:25,260
good evening everybody pull it down

708
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:27,960
that's fine yes ma'am

709
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,140
um a couple of weeks ago we got I sent

710
00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:34,679
something to Mr schroth that um we're

711
00:29:34,679 --> 00:29:36,480
done with everything we needed to get

712
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,480
done and we're ready to move on and I

713
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,179
I'm sure Mr Schott sent something over

714
00:29:42,179 --> 00:29:45,179
to you guys and I was wondering if we

715
00:29:45,179 --> 00:29:47,580
could set some sort of a date or I don't

716
00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:49,380
know what our next steps are again this

717
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:50,820
is so new for me

718
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:53,220
so I don't know what I think Tom has

719
00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:55,620
some information for you okay so

720
00:29:55,620 --> 00:29:58,200
um the I believe at a previous meeting

721
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:03,059
the city commission asked that the code enforcement board uh reviewed

722
00:30:03,059 --> 00:30:05,700
this and so right now uh staff is

723
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:07,799
pulling together the information needed

724
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,200
and it will go to the code enforcement

725
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,840
board I think the plan is to go to the

726
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:20,220
code board in October which will be the next code board uh meeting the code

727
00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:22,260
board meets the second Monday of the

728
00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:25,440
month and so I don't have a calendar in

729
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,720
front of me

730
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,940
so that it the plan would be for that to

731
00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:31,740
be to to for that to go to the code

732
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:34,440
board on October 10th am I supposed to

733
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,600
attend that meeting I if I was you I

734
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,100
would be a definite meeting okay on

735
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,320
October 10th once they're completed with

736
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,640
it it will come back to the city

737
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,620
commission so you're probably back in

738
00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:48,059
front of the Commission in November okay all righty sounds good thank you

739
00:30:48,059 --> 00:30:50,810
again

740
00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,419
anybody else Tom uh yes

741
00:30:54,419 --> 00:31:00,120
um we have a discussion related to

742
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,179
um chickens on the agenda but it's under

743
00:31:03,179 --> 00:31:05,340
other business which generally does not

744
00:31:05,340 --> 00:31:07,500
allow for public input you can hear it

745
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:13,430
now so I have Aaron Phillips all right

746
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,360
how are you Aaron

747
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,039
good thank you for being back tonight

748
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:20,159
thank you for hearing

749
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:23,880
can you hear me okay fantastic

750
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,020
um

751
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:26,640
good evening my name is Aaron Phillips

752
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,980
and I represent a few families here in

753
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:30,360
the Eustis area and surrounding

754
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,340
communities and we would like to thank

755
00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:34,020
the City commissioners for taking time

756
00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:36,600
once again to hear the concerns of

757
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,159
residents in regards to keeping backyard

758
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:40,440
chickens within Cinemas city limits

759
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,120
we've heard your concerns and Views

760
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,559
about keeping chickens in the previous

761
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:47,520
meeting and we are under the under we

762
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,320
are of the understanding this has been a

763
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,120
reoccurring issue it's it seems like it

764
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
continues to come up over the years uh

765
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,799
we'd like to help overcome this obstacle

766
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:57,899
and move forward together I assure you

767
00:31:57,899 --> 00:31:59,820
although we might ruffle some feathers

768
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:04,380
we won't pluck you I had to I had to I

769
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:07,380
can't fall so first when we speak about

770
00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:09,179
chickens we're referring to keeping and

771
00:32:09,179 --> 00:32:11,700
not raising uh hens in the backyards no

772
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,799
roosters this keeps our dialogue clear

773
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,740
of potential agricultural concerns which

774
00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:18,240
were brought up in the past and

775
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,399
regulations as residents of this city

776
00:32:20,399 --> 00:32:21,480
and members of the surrounding

777
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,919
communities we are respectfully offering

778
00:32:22,919 --> 00:32:24,600
the city our recommended guidelines for

779
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,600
keeping backyard chickens members of our

780
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,399
safety and preparedness team our

781
00:32:29,399 --> 00:32:31,020
education team and our Civics team have

782
00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:32,399
researched and collaborated on these

783
00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:34,620
proposed guidelines an effort to assist

784
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,659
and streamline the ordinance and code

785
00:32:36,659 --> 00:32:39,179
writing processes our group has analyzed

786
00:32:39,179 --> 00:32:40,799
almost 50 cities and counties here in

787
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,240
Florida that allow for the keeping of

788
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,679
chickens

789
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:46,100
it turned out to be quite the Endeavor

790
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,840
but a phenomenal exercise and experience

791
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,320
for us nonetheless we compared we tried

792
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,260
our best I promise we compared City

793
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:57,299
areas populations population densities

794
00:32:57,299 --> 00:32:59,659
as well as traditions and culture

795
00:32:59,659 --> 00:33:02,520
we found little to no correlation

796
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,980
between them we then compared the

797
00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:06,419
different city codes and ordinances

798
00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:07,919
guidelines and requirements in a gown

799
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:11,279
again found no real solid consistencies

800
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,220
there we did however find wordy verbiage

801
00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:16,200
gratuitous regulations and excessive

802
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,640
educational requirements for something

803
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,019
humans have been accomplishing for

804
00:33:19,019 --> 00:33:20,580
literally thousands of years I'm sure

805
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:21,720
that's been brought to your attention

806
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,299
here in the past as well therefore we

807
00:33:24,299 --> 00:33:25,620
decided to use the same search and

808
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:27,179
comparison criteria for these guidelines

809
00:33:27,179 --> 00:33:28,620
for the city of use of space on our

810
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:30,779
experiences conducting the research

811
00:33:30,779 --> 00:33:33,059
reviewing dialogues from blogs websites

812
00:33:33,059 --> 00:33:35,880
and various academic institutions

813
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,620
we believe in the kiss rule keep it

814
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,600
simple super simple so we have limited

815
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,700
our list to 10 guidelines

816
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,399
this is done with intent as it allows

817
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:45,659
for the people to govern themselves

818
00:33:45,659 --> 00:33:46,980
accordingly

819
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,140
and it allows for the city and the

820
00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:50,399
future to impose further governance

821
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:53,940
where it may be needed in the community

822
00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:55,679
do you want me to read these 10 real

823
00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:59,659
quick that's entirely man's like nope

824
00:33:59,659 --> 00:34:02,460
I already read the 22-page dissertation

825
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:04,980
oh you poor thing I'm glad I missed that

826
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:06,840
if you'll give it to Christine she can

827
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,780
get it out to it and thank you again so

828
00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:11,159
much for your time thank you no thank

829
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,399
you for here letting us hear you tonight

830
00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:16,980
thank you thank you anyone else I have a

831
00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:18,960
couple cards that uh will be heard at

832
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,639
the time of the item but that's it for

833
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,859
audience to be heard anyone else like to

834
00:34:22,859 --> 00:34:24,119
speak to the commission about something

835
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,879
that's not on the agenda this evening

836
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:28,980
not seeing anybody will move right on

837
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:30,659
down Madam attorney will turn it over to

838
00:34:30,659 --> 00:34:33,000
you thank you Mr Mayor we have

839
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,879
resolution 22-68 a resolution of the

840
00:34:35,879 --> 00:34:37,560
city Commission of the City of Eustis

841
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Florida approving a code enforcement

842
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,859
board action to authorize the City

843
00:34:40,859 --> 00:34:42,659
attorney to foreclose on an outstanding

844
00:34:42,659 --> 00:34:44,280
code enforcement lien recorded against

845
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,159
44 sharp Circle LLC

846
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,159
believe Mr Martin so I I can start off

847
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,339
maybe give you some general background

848
00:34:53,339 --> 00:34:57,420
um so this case has been going on uh for

849
00:34:57,420 --> 00:35:00,960
about a year you have in your packet the

850
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,540
initial case history for this case

851
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:06,800
September 14th of 2021.

852
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,200
there have been quite a few visits to

853
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,619
the property by code enforcement

854
00:35:13,619 --> 00:35:14,300
um

855
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:16,579
based on

856
00:35:16,579 --> 00:35:20,400
this particular issue is related to the

857
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,079
conditions of a rental unit there over

858
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,359
the past year there's been a lot of

859
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,160
discussion with the property owner about

860
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,579
whether the property would be renovated

861
00:35:32,579 --> 00:35:35,520
and rehabilitated or whether whether the

862
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,579
property would be demolished it remains

863
00:35:38,579 --> 00:35:40,740
an outstanding issue

864
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:42,320
and

865
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,700
excuse me

866
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,000
um it has as you can see from your

867
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,160
information it's gone to the code board

868
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
quite a few times

869
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,920
the code board on August 8 2022

870
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,940
considered moving forward with a

871
00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:05,520
foreclosure on the lien they approve

872
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,380
that

873
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:08,820
again just a little bit of background

874
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:11,220
you we forwarded to you some

875
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:14,640
correspondence with a representative of

876
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,800
the property owner that representative

877
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,000
was questioning uh due process I will

878
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
tell you that both at the code board on

879
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,780
August 8 2022 the question came up as to

880
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:29,720
whether the code board was authorized

881
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,220
based on due process to move forward

882
00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:35,820
with this and the code board attorney

883
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:37,820
assured the code board that they were

884
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:40,260
able to move forward with this if they

885
00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:43,079
so chose and they did move forward with

886
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,140
that the question has been raised and I

887
00:36:46,140 --> 00:36:49,079
know uh Sasha has had some discussions

888
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:51,740
with their representative I'm

889
00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:54,780
paraphrasing what Sasha and I discussed

890
00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:59,220
which is uh we feel that it is

891
00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:01,619
appropriate for the city commission to

892
00:37:01,619 --> 00:37:04,099
move forward with this if they so choose

893
00:37:04,099 --> 00:37:06,839
the prop the representative of the

894
00:37:06,839 --> 00:37:08,520
property owner has asked that it be

895
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,660
continued until October 6th but that is

896
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:15,119
completely at the discretion of the city

897
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,700
commission we do have a couple people

898
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:19,680
who have given cards who want to speak

899
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,200
on this item

900
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,760
code enforcement supervisor Eric Martin

901
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,060
is here he has prepared

902
00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:29,640
um documentation of the notifications

903
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,400
that we've done he's prepared photos of

904
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,460
what we've been dealing with and so we

905
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:37,500
are Eric is here and happy to give you

906
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:39,780
more information and try to answer any

907
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:42,599
questions you might have Chief Capri is

908
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:45,180
also here and has been involved and then

909
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:48,300
of course uh Mr Paskowski our code board

910
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:50,520
chairs here as is Stephanie Carter who

911
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,000
serves on our code board and so whether

912
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,980
it's representatives of the code board

913
00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:59,220
or the City attorney or Mr Martin we are

914
00:37:59,220 --> 00:38:01,260
here to answer any questions you might

915
00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:05,160
have on what's going on in addition

916
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,920
I want to make it clear we have other

917
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,740
code issues out at Sharps Park but we

918
00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:12,900
are not dealing specifically with those

919
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:14,760
tonight we are dealing with a specific

920
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,280
case but we can also provide some

921
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,960
background on other code enforcement

922
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,900
issues unrelated to this specific case

923
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,520
that we're also dealing with out there

924
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
and so we'd be happy to try to answer

925
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,960
any questions you may have

926
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,359
I think we start with Derek okay Eric

927
00:38:30,359 --> 00:38:35,870
sorry okay all right Garrett yeah

928
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,859
good evening Commissioners Eric Martin

929
00:38:37,859 --> 00:38:40,200
code enforcement supervisor

930
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,960
so

931
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,820
basically I'm just here to kind of do a

932
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:47,640
ask an answer I do know we have some

933
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,920
more residents in today's tonight's

934
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,680
audience that did not fill out a card so

935
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,540
you know I guess when they come in I

936
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:56,760
guess I can just before they leave fill

937
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,359
one out is that how it would work we um

938
00:39:00,359 --> 00:39:02,820
I think I think we we can just call them

939
00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:05,220
up as long as they State their name

940
00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:06,660
um that that's fine they don't have to

941
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,660
fill out a card so the first thing I did

942
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:11,880
this morning when in preparation for

943
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,720
tonight I the park obtained ownership of

944
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,920
the property in February 2019. since

945
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,780
then there have been 18 total code

946
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:24,119
violations at that location

947
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:27,240
but for numerous violations and we can

948
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,280
go into the details if you if you wish

949
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,060
us to but the item today is a

950
00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:51,829
three-sharp circle

951
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:56,099
let me pull that one out I've got a

952
00:39:56,099 --> 00:40:07,010
lunch

953
00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:11,280
so basically on September 14 2021 the

954
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,099
city received a code enforcement or a

955
00:40:14,099 --> 00:40:15,960
lieutenant complaint about the

956
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,420
conditions of this mobile home and

957
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:20,760
dwelling unit when we went in and

958
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,160
inspected it we saw some very severe

959
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,520
electrical hazards

960
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,099
here like in picture two they had an

961
00:40:29,099 --> 00:40:31,440
extension cord on a plug outlet and it

962
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,420
ran all the way through it was run all

963
00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:34,619
the way through the front porch

964
00:40:34,619 --> 00:40:37,380
underneath the mobile home and into an

965
00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:39,060
outlet inside the mobile home and it was

966
00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:41,220
running power or running a light or of

967
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:44,099
some sort on the on the patio there were

968
00:40:44,099 --> 00:40:46,200
issues with the stairs not being secure

969
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,560
not being centered on the doorways

970
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,960
um the main issue was there was a water

971
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,960
leak in the toilet room and you'll see

972
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,060
here in picture eight that is an actual

973
00:40:57,060 --> 00:40:59,640
electrical wire coming down

974
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,099
and as you see here in picture nine it

975
00:41:02,099 --> 00:41:03,180
is hot

976
00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:05,220
so there was a water leak so the

977
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:06,720
toilet's leaking water all over the

978
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,780
floor there's no um

979
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:12,660
impervious surface in that bathroom it

980
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:14,640
was just pretty much hot-nosed pieces of

981
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,660
plywood

982
00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:18,560
and anyone that has sitting on that

983
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,140
toilet you know your water's leaking

984
00:41:22,140 --> 00:41:24,839
around you you've got live wires within

985
00:41:24,839 --> 00:41:27,900
Arms Reach of you so we were really

986
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:30,180
concerned with the life safety of the

987
00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:31,859
tenant at that point

988
00:41:31,859 --> 00:41:34,380
so we here's showing just some water

989
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:38,040
damage some some surface damages

990
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,260
uh in this in this and you know looks

991
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:42,240
like an old roof leak

992
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,280
um so throughout the mobile home we we

993
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,339
continue to find more electrical hazards

994
00:41:47,339 --> 00:41:50,390
throughout

995
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,920
so this was inside a cabinet this one

996
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,280
was in over the stove this was over the

997
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,540
uh

998
00:41:57,540 --> 00:41:59,400
there was one over the coffee maker

999
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,579
there were two exposed electrical wires

1000
00:42:02,579 --> 00:42:07,790
on the uh in the living room

1001
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,140
there was a plug outlet they had

1002
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:11,700
completely come dislodged and was laying

1003
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:13,500
inside the wall

1004
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:15,060
and there were other electrical

1005
00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:17,099
violations that don't meet the National

1006
00:42:17,099 --> 00:42:18,359
Electric Code

1007
00:42:18,359 --> 00:42:20,400
so when I notified the building official

1008
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,940
loved the conditions he authorized Duke

1009
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:26,160
Energy to terminate the power on that

1010
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,320
dwelling unit immediately that day

1011
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,140
so it's been off ever since

1012
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:31,800
um

1013
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,740
and this is owned by that's owned by

1014
00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:37,200
sharks mobile home park okay that that

1015
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,160
was thank you

1016
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,500
Eric Were you invited in by the the yes

1017
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:47,040
the tenants signed a consent to allow us

1018
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,460
to to go in and inspect her dwelling

1019
00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:52,800
um we don't the city has never taken

1020
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,020
lightly condemning and owner-occupied

1021
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,480
residential dwelling the last thing we

1022
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,099
want to do is put someone out on the

1023
00:42:59,099 --> 00:43:01,619
street but in this case there was there

1024
00:43:01,619 --> 00:43:03,000
was no avoidance

1025
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,619
so

1026
00:43:04,619 --> 00:43:07,440
um these pictures here show where

1027
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,540
the property owner eventually did come

1028
00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:11,520
in and get a repair permit

1029
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,800
and they started fixing the bathroom

1030
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,280
and then all works seized the building

1031
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,800
official had determined that the scope

1032
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,839
of work in the permit was not adequate

1033
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:24,599
to bring the mobile home up to code

1034
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,540
okay I'm sorry I thought I I am but go

1035
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:28,800
ahead and finish

1036
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,880
um

1037
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,560
so

1038
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,140
the property owner decided instead of

1039
00:43:34,140 --> 00:43:35,760
bringing it up to code they decided they

1040
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,800
were going to demolish it well that's

1041
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,300
been ongoing for eight or more months uh

1042
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:43,760
so

1043
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,460
without digging into my dig deep into my

1044
00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:48,780
notes I do know there's a pending

1045
00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:51,300
demolition permit on file

1046
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,180
to take you know three and unit five out

1047
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:56,819
so there were concerns when the park

1048
00:43:56,819 --> 00:43:59,220
manager came and testified in August

1049
00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:01,560
they were concerned about the type

1050
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,260
proximity and working around the

1051
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:06,240
neighbor's fence asking them if they

1052
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,680
could take it down so they could get

1053
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,540
equipment in it it sounds to me like

1054
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:11,220
they've just decided to take unit five

1055
00:44:11,220 --> 00:44:13,200
out so they can get to unit 3 and take

1056
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,380
it out which is definitely that's two

1057
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:17,780
for one

1058
00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:21,000
so that's that is pending I believe the

1059
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,319
only thing they're waiting on is the

1060
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,780
utility disconnects but I don't know why

1061
00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:28,380
that's taking so long question for you

1062
00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:31,800
um you had correspondence with the owner

1063
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,880
correct

1064
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,180
I spoke to the property manager

1065
00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:38,460
personally I don't believe I've spoken

1066
00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:40,140
to the property owner about this

1067
00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:42,180
particular case

1068
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:44,520
I haven't spoken to the property owner

1069
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,980
probably since 2020.

1070
00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:48,660
um most of our most of our

1071
00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:50,460
correspondence is directly with the

1072
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:52,380
property man so this shouldn't come as a

1073
00:44:52,380 --> 00:44:54,359
surprise to them

1074
00:44:54,359 --> 00:44:58,260
no at least headquarters or you know

1075
00:44:58,260 --> 00:45:02,640
that this is a problem right okay so and

1076
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,800
you sent

1077
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,920
letter after letter getting into getting

1078
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,160
to it now okay good all right I will say

1079
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,240
this because looking at the email

1080
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,640
correspondence then I looked through all

1081
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
this all of this stuff

1082
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,619
um the actually owner

1083
00:45:19,619 --> 00:45:21,540
I think it's been changed twice now said

1084
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:22,800
here's the new representative send

1085
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,300
everything to them send everything to

1086
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:28,500
them so he's aware yeah yeah right and

1087
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:30,300
now he's shoving it off on exactly

1088
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:34,970
somebody else two other people

1089
00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:38,339
so on September 23rd we pretty much just

1090
00:45:38,339 --> 00:45:40,319
basically sent out a correction notice

1091
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:42,119
that had a list of a full list of the

1092
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:44,460
diff all the deficiencies

1093
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:46,940
um requiring that they correct them by

1094
00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:50,640
October 25th 2021.

1095
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,400
when they failed to do so we sent out a

1096
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,619
formal notice of violation slash hearing

1097
00:45:55,619 --> 00:46:00,960
on November 4th requiring compliance

1098
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,740
with the housing code by December 6 2021

1099
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:06,180
or there be a code enforcement Board

1100
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:08,819
hearing on December 13th

1101
00:46:08,819 --> 00:46:11,760
so went to the code enforcement board

1102
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,160
and here is I've got copies of the

1103
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,700
notices the so the thing is

1104
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:19,220
the the

1105
00:46:19,220 --> 00:46:22,200
address listed in Lake County

1106
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,420
those those notices were being returned

1107
00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:26,640
under undeliverable as addressed so we

1108
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,380
also started mailing them to registered

1109
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:31,800
agent which is Hansel Rodriguez so the

1110
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,079
one that we mailed to Hansel Rodriguez

1111
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,020
it was delivered on November 6. at his

1112
00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:37,859
office

1113
00:46:37,859 --> 00:46:40,079
we also posted a copy of that notice of

1114
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,200
violation on the manager's door on the

1115
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,960
same day

1116
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,720
is their own site yes it's uh it's

1117
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,880
addressed 44 sharp Circle actually it's

1118
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,380
right it's the building right next to

1119
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:53,819
where if you drive in you got your

1120
00:46:53,819 --> 00:46:56,760
mailboxes and and so forth is right next

1121
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,220
to the two-story kind of Warehouse

1122
00:46:59,220 --> 00:47:03,000
uh so on December 13th 2021 the code

1123
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,440
enforcement board issued an order of

1124
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:10,010
enforcement for acquiring compliance by

1125
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:14,520
January 12 2022 or a fine of 250 per day

1126
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,440
of occurrence would be imposed

1127
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,260
so that deadline expired

1128
00:47:19,260 --> 00:47:24,540
on January 28th 2022 the city issued a

1129
00:47:24,540 --> 00:47:26,700
notice of non-compliance and I noticed a

1130
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:29,280
hearing for assessment of fine

1131
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,619
so that was held on February 14 2022

1132
00:47:34,619 --> 00:47:35,940
where the code enforcement board

1133
00:47:35,940 --> 00:47:38,760
officially issued the order imposing

1134
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,859
fine and that was recorded in public

1135
00:47:40,859 --> 00:47:43,800
record on April 13 2022. in every

1136
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,260
correspondent set that we send we tell

1137
00:47:46,260 --> 00:47:47,940
them they have the opportunity to come

1138
00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:49,200
before the code enforcement board

1139
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,220
correct

1140
00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:52,440
yes that's what that's what the notice

1141
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,599
and hearing is for okay and have they

1142
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:55,339
ever

1143
00:47:55,339 --> 00:47:57,420
the um

1144
00:47:57,420 --> 00:47:59,099
yes they have and let me get to the

1145
00:47:59,099 --> 00:48:02,950
staff report

1146
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:16,730
I believe

1147
00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:18,540
okay on the first hearing that was held

1148
00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:20,040
on December 13th there was no

1149
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,500
representative the tenant the tenant

1150
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,420
showed up but the no representative from

1151
00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:26,220
44 Sharps LLC

1152
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:34,849
and then on

1153
00:48:34,859 --> 00:48:36,960
I think the property manager did attend

1154
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,760
this one I don't have it into my note

1155
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:44,710
hold on yeah I do

1156
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,520
can I oh that's a good question real

1157
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,380
quick actually yes ma'am are we we're

1158
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:52,680
closing number three sharp Circle or

1159
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,579
number 44. no it's it's the lien is

1160
00:48:56,579 --> 00:48:58,920
against the entire property it's all one

1161
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,540
product it's all one property it's the

1162
00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:02,700
name of the corporate the LLC is 44

1163
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:07,450
Sharps Circle LLC

1164
00:49:07,460 --> 00:49:11,400
thank you Eric that's it

1165
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,020
you know I know you're looking for that

1166
00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:16,380
but what I'm trying to get is

1167
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:19,020
they've known from the beginning that

1168
00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:20,940
there were deficiencies yes you

1169
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:23,579
corresponded with them they've gone in

1170
00:49:23,579 --> 00:49:27,119
and they attempted to make some repairs

1171
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,240
right they as you see they saved off the

1172
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:32,460
um if you I didn't point it out because

1173
00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:35,040
I don't believe I don't think I

1174
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,160
So within two days of us being in there

1175
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,319
they did get an electrician and they

1176
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,300
saved off all the wiring put them in

1177
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:45,300
metal boxes as you see in these photos

1178
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:46,200
well

1179
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,540
some of these photos here but so all the

1180
00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:51,060
exposed wires the that plug outlet was

1181
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:53,400
not fixed but any of the exposed wires

1182
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,520
are hanging down they did put in metal

1183
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,240
boxes and cap them off

1184
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,119
so the issues

1185
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:05,160
they should have known

1186
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,339
with continued correspondence and

1187
00:50:08,339 --> 00:50:10,740
communication with you right that all of

1188
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:12,660
the issues hadn't been taken care of

1189
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:15,660
correct correct so it should come as no

1190
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:18,240
surprise to anyone

1191
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,300
that the City of Eustis code enforcement

1192
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,819
board meant business right okay all

1193
00:50:23,819 --> 00:50:24,839
right

1194
00:50:24,839 --> 00:50:26,280
is there more

1195
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,040
bold I didn't witness any

1196
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,440
some of it looks kind of dark like that

1197
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,079
might be how long and and you might not

1198
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:35,579
know this and I don't know if anybody

1199
00:50:35,579 --> 00:50:37,500
who lived in this unit is anybody here

1200
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:39,359
that lived in this unit

1201
00:50:39,359 --> 00:50:41,760
only Donna Manning she lived in it she

1202
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,339
was the complainant but before that I

1203
00:50:44,339 --> 00:50:46,800
don't know who owned it or how long did

1204
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,720
you live like this man you can't do that

1205
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,579
oh no I can't all right I just wondered

1206
00:50:50,579 --> 00:50:51,720
how long this has been do you know how

1207
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:53,160
long this has been going on

1208
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,440
all I know is the date that we receive

1209
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,119
the complaint okay

1210
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:58,980
I can tell you that Donna Manning has

1211
00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:00,720
filled out a card to speak there you go

1212
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:02,400
that's what all I knew she did that's

1213
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,260
why and I'm sorry when she stands up you

1214
00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:13,549
can do it okay

1215
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:15,720
and the concern that

1216
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,400
um

1217
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,640
well the issue that

1218
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,900
they're trying to raise is they didn't

1219
00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:23,700
get noticed they didn't have enough

1220
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:26,460
notice yes they're raising the concern

1221
00:51:26,460 --> 00:51:28,140
that they didn't get notice about the

1222
00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:30,119
Foreclosure hearing

1223
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:33,119
but the Florida Statutes doesn't require

1224
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,300
any notification for the Foreclosure it

1225
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,460
just simply states that the code enforce

1226
00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:42,180
the after an order is imposed the city

1227
00:51:42,180 --> 00:51:44,520
can record that in public record as a

1228
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,040
lien against the property and after 90

1229
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,140
days the code enforcement board can

1230
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:51,300
authorize a City attorney to foreclose

1231
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:53,579
on the unpaid lien

1232
00:51:53,579 --> 00:51:55,319
okay and so all the notification

1233
00:51:55,319 --> 00:51:57,839
requirements start at the beginning we

1234
00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:01,319
do notice of uh we do requires it's like

1235
00:52:01,319 --> 00:52:02,819
if when a code enforcement officer

1236
00:52:02,819 --> 00:52:04,680
identifies a violation we're required by

1237
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,800
a statute to notify the property owner

1238
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:08,940
of the violation and give them a

1239
00:52:08,940 --> 00:52:10,800
reasonable time to correct it and if

1240
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,720
they don't then we schedule a hearing

1241
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:15,000
and that's when we're we're required to

1242
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,760
send out the certified notices return

1243
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,119
receipt postings hand delivery any way

1244
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,240
you can try to get get notice out to the

1245
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:25,800
property owner

1246
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,020
and then that's for the first hearing

1247
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:30,960
now this there's no there's no

1248
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,940
requirement for a second Hearing in

1249
00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:36,599
chapter 162 but we do a second hearing

1250
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:39,059
for notice of non-compliance for due

1251
00:52:39,059 --> 00:52:40,980
process reasons I think it's to comply

1252
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:43,380
with Florida Statutes 219 is that the

1253
00:52:43,380 --> 00:52:45,540
due process section yes and it's also

1254
00:52:45,540 --> 00:52:48,960
chapter 162. well yes

1255
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,920
um

1256
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,200
so

1257
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,839
then we have that hearing and that's

1258
00:52:54,839 --> 00:52:57,059
pretty much the last hearing until we

1259
00:52:57,059 --> 00:52:58,559
bring it back to the code enforcement

1260
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,540
board for consideration of foreclosure

1261
00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:02,579
and traditionally we've never given

1262
00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:04,619
notice for that

1263
00:53:04,619 --> 00:53:07,460
and and

1264
00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:10,920
our correspondence with them they know

1265
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,619
that foreclosure is going to be a

1266
00:53:13,619 --> 00:53:17,220
possibility correct so in the notice of

1267
00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:19,440
non-compliance

1268
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:24,049
that was issued

1269
00:53:24,059 --> 00:53:26,640
on January 28th

1270
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,859
all our letters go out with a cover

1271
00:53:28,859 --> 00:53:31,559
letter and here it says to stop accrual

1272
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:33,720
of the daily fine the property owner

1273
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:35,160
must the property must be brought into

1274
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,319
compliance if compliance is not met and

1275
00:53:37,319 --> 00:53:39,000
the accrued fine is not paid within

1276
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,920
three months of the date of the

1277
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:46,440
recording the order of the recording of the order imposing fine the

1278
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,300
property may be subject to foreclosure

1279
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:50,099
proceedings and sold to enforce the lean

1280
00:53:50,099 --> 00:53:56,049
January 28th of this year yes sir okay

1281
00:53:56,059 --> 00:53:57,960
and the

1282
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,579
discovered by the statue everything's

1283
00:53:59,579 --> 00:54:01,859
yes and I did speak to Mr Arbiter

1284
00:54:01,859 --> 00:54:04,980
yesterday about this um and statutorily

1285
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:06,180
we've complied with everything that

1286
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:07,740
we're required to do we're not required

1287
00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:09,300
to provide additional notice uh he's

1288
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:11,940
asking for something that is in excess

1289
00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:14,220
of what we're required to provide the

1290
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:16,619
property owner so as far as due process

1291
00:54:16,619 --> 00:54:18,720
is concerned we're covered now of course

1292
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:20,700
it's this is up to the commission it's

1293
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:22,020
completely discretionary if you wanted

1294
00:54:22,020 --> 00:54:24,000
to push this off to the next meeting

1295
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,140
because this is what he's asked for

1296
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:26,760
however it's not an opportunity for him

1297
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,559
to challenge the findings of the code

1298
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:29,940
enforcement board that's already been

1299
00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:31,680
determined and that was part of the

1300
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,300
order that was recorded and is the lien

1301
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:37,319
against the property simply it would I

1302
00:54:37,319 --> 00:54:38,940
guess be an opportunity just to try to

1303
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:41,760
avoid the expense of the Foreclosure

1304
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,589
should they somehow comply in the future

1305
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:49,380
I am you know it's it surprises me that

1306
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:51,900
uh you know we give them all this time

1307
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:54,420
to to fix it and they don't do anything

1308
00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:56,520
but they want us they want us to give

1309
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,559
them more time to do

1310
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,960
yeah yeah I'm not right and the attorney

1311
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,839
did attend the August 8th uh code

1312
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:05,099
enforcement Board hearing there were

1313
00:55:05,099 --> 00:55:08,099
some other items on the agenda for Sharp

1314
00:55:08,099 --> 00:55:10,440
Circle that day so their attorney was

1315
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,800
present he asked the board for

1316
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,500
um continuance before they considered

1317
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:18,839
doing a motion for foreclosure which the

1318
00:55:18,839 --> 00:55:20,460
code enforcement board denied his

1319
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:23,099
request so you said there's 18 current

1320
00:55:23,099 --> 00:55:24,900
there's eight no there have been 18

1321
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:26,420
violations

1322
00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:28,819
since February

1323
00:55:28,819 --> 00:55:33,480
2019 when occurring okay so right now

1324
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,900
um I also put some

1325
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:40,319
other open and unresolved violations so

1326
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:42,180
there's a minimum housing code violation

1327
00:55:42,180 --> 00:55:45,599
against unit number 26. there's a

1328
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:48,300
violation for an unsafe power pole and

1329
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:50,400
there's an active code violation for the

1330
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,740
condition of the roads is that powerful

1331
00:55:52,740 --> 00:55:54,960
still leaning today I'm sorry is that

1332
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,300
power pole still leaning uh it's it's

1333
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:59,760
still propped up they had not they have

1334
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,319
not fixed and we walked that property

1335
00:56:01,319 --> 00:56:04,079
July 1st and we know we told them so

1336
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:07,680
what happened on July 1st we had a storm

1337
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,480
come through the night after we walked

1338
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,760
through it and the power pole that was

1339
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,180
right next to the the unit that is at

1340
00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:17,640
the main entrance that was blown over

1341
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,140
during the storm

1342
00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:22,079
so they fixed that one immediately I

1343
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,780
drove through on July 5th

1344
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:28,200
and I'm actually there it is right thank

1345
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,819
you yeah

1346
00:56:29,819 --> 00:56:32,400
so on July 8th when I'm driving by I see

1347
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,099
this 2x4 propping up this power pole and

1348
00:56:35,099 --> 00:56:36,720
I'm thinking what's going on here so I

1349
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,900
get out and I touch it and just from

1350
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:42,059
touching it almost fell over so that's

1351
00:56:42,059 --> 00:56:43,680
what I called the building inspector out

1352
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,720
I had him take a look at it and I have

1353
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:47,460
to resist a life safety issue and he

1354
00:56:47,460 --> 00:56:50,300
says absolutely so

1355
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:54,240
this is steel like this yes yes

1356
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,359
been that way since July 8th so there's

1357
00:56:57,359 --> 00:56:59,400
been a lien recorded on that one

1358
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,960
recently

1359
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,690
for

1360
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:09,960
so that's 528. here Eric this this is a

1361
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,780
public safety and a health hazard and

1362
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:15,359
the attorney has told us that we have

1363
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:17,280
that I can ask for this place to be

1364
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,859
totally shut down and I'm willing to

1365
00:57:19,859 --> 00:57:21,780
sign in order to shut it down if they

1366
00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:23,760
can't get it together right it's

1367
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,339
absolutely ridiculous

1368
00:57:26,339 --> 00:57:28,559
that we're allowing this to go on that

1369
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,839
we're allowing our citizens to live like

1370
00:57:30,839 --> 00:57:31,619
this

1371
00:57:31,619 --> 00:57:35,520
so if this isn't done quickly I will

1372
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,619
sign an order to shut the place down now

1373
00:57:37,619 --> 00:57:39,300
we're going to find places for people to

1374
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:40,859
live yes but this is absolutely

1375
00:57:40,859 --> 00:57:43,079
ridiculous and for an attorney to stand

1376
00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:44,160
in here

1377
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,619
or to even contact our attorneys and ask

1378
00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:49,140
for a delay on this is absolutely

1379
00:57:49,140 --> 00:57:52,200
asinine I apologize for that but it's

1380
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,780
crazy it's gone on too long

1381
00:57:54,780 --> 00:57:58,559
so what I what I have to say is you know

1382
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:03,290
at this point at this point

1383
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:05,160
the city knows

1384
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,040
how bad this place is and if something

1385
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,920
doesn't happen right away the city uh

1386
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,500
Bears some of the liability so I think

1387
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:16,380
we need to socialize we're just with

1388
00:58:16,380 --> 00:58:18,240
code enforcement with the chief with the

1389
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,880
city manager it smells of mold and

1390
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,720
mildew it smells of raw sewage and it's

1391
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,660
not the resident's fault it is an owner

1392
00:58:27,660 --> 00:58:30,000
that is doesn't live here he doesn't

1393
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,520
care about these people all he cares

1394
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,160
about is collecting money at every month

1395
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,750
from them

1396
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,540
and and let one of them be late

1397
00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:44,880
oh 10 days and they're looking to be

1398
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,619
evicted not only that we're just very

1399
00:58:46,619 --> 00:58:48,420
blessed no one has been hurt or died

1400
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:50,640
yeah exactly and so we need to do

1401
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,500
something before it does happen uh

1402
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:54,180
cricket police chief real quick I'll

1403
00:58:54,180 --> 00:58:55,980
keep it brief this is probably the

1404
00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:58,980
number one problem right now in the City

1405
00:58:58,980 --> 00:59:01,680
of Eustis it is it is disgusting it is

1406
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,240
horrible that residents have to live

1407
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,700
like that this guy's a bully I talked to

1408
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,160
a resident yesterday that he evicted a

1409
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,079
lot of issues and he's all about he's a

1410
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:13,740
typical slumlord greed Merchant and he

1411
00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:15,420
has a sense of entitlement and he sits

1412
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:16,680
back down in Miami or South Florida

1413
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,440
laughing at us while he so we this is I

1414
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,480
got dep coming to work with us the State

1415
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,799
Department of Environmental Protection

1416
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:24,240
we're going to go after this the only

1417
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,559
thing this guy's gonna understand is

1418
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:27,480
when you hit him in a pocketbook and and

1419
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,680
that's what we have to do we're not

1420
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,880
going to let up this is our number one

1421
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,280
priority what we're doing so uh it's

1422
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,900
very it's very bad out there and I don't

1423
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:35,400
want to see these poor residents have to

1424
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,260
deal with that he jacked all their rents

1425
00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:39,000
up almost doubled their rents because

1426
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,079
what's going on in the country people

1427
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,359
like talk he doubled their rents the

1428
00:59:42,359 --> 00:59:43,799
park manager

1429
00:59:43,799 --> 00:59:46,260
you can't even talk to her she's nasty

1430
00:59:46,260 --> 00:59:48,240
she's rude she's abrasive

1431
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,579
and uh she didn't want to deal with me

1432
00:59:50,579 --> 00:59:54,180
so but smart manager live on no she

1433
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:56,339
doesn't oh she doesn't oh I think she

1434
00:59:56,339 --> 00:59:57,720
should have to she was at the cold board

1435
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,940
with her attorney and all this guy's

1436
00:59:59,940 --> 01:00:01,380
trying to do is hire attorneys to muddy

1437
01:00:01,380 --> 01:00:03,720
the waters and and do all that but the

1438
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,059
bottom line is it's not going to stop us

1439
01:00:06,059 --> 01:00:08,099
what can we do we're coming after him so

1440
01:00:08,099 --> 01:00:09,480
we're coming after him with the steak

1441
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,450
and everything together

1442
01:00:13,460 --> 01:00:15,900
Mr chairman if you have anything to add

1443
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:18,599
from the code enforcement side

1444
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:22,260
so um hold on one second Alan do you

1445
01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:23,819
have anything from your side you're fine

1446
01:00:23,819 --> 01:00:26,339
then for the record Alan Paskowski chair

1447
01:00:26,339 --> 01:00:28,319
of the code enforcement board I've been

1448
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:30,299
on the board for seven years where do

1449
01:00:30,299 --> 01:00:33,960
you want me to start on 44 sharp Circle

1450
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,420
I've we've had numerous hearings for

1451
01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:39,059
residents who are victims of this

1452
01:00:39,059 --> 01:00:41,900
property in the abuseful management

1453
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:44,040
non-concern or care for their health

1454
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,960
welfare or safety

1455
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,420
we have done everything that we can

1456
01:00:48,420 --> 01:00:50,160
within the law

1457
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,640
provided them ample opportunity to

1458
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,099
correct situations

1459
01:00:56,099 --> 01:01:00,180
poll that posed an eminent danger we

1460
01:01:00,180 --> 01:01:03,720
ordered it to be fixed within two days I

1461
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,880
believe there one or two days

1462
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,339
and the notice was hand delivered to the

1463
01:01:08,339 --> 01:01:09,960
property right after the code

1464
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,660
enforcement board's ruling

1465
01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:14,819
at the last code enforcement board they

1466
01:01:14,819 --> 01:01:17,339
brought an attorney with a recorder that

1467
01:01:17,339 --> 01:01:18,780
would challenge the code enforcement

1468
01:01:18,780 --> 01:01:22,619
board with respect to not respecting due

1469
01:01:22,619 --> 01:01:24,059
process

1470
01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:26,099
we have never

1471
01:01:26,099 --> 01:01:29,220
on any occasion not given anybody who

1472
01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:31,319
appears in front of the code enforcement

1473
01:01:31,319 --> 01:01:34,799
board due process we have obtained and

1474
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:38,940
listened to numerous complaints by

1475
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:41,400
residents of the property who are forced

1476
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,680
to live in property like this who are

1477
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,040
then punitively dealt with because

1478
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,260
they've complained to the city because

1479
01:01:49,260 --> 01:01:51,440
our board has taken action against them

1480
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,299
and the manager has personally appeared

1481
01:01:54,299 --> 01:01:55,799
the new property manager they've had

1482
01:01:55,799 --> 01:01:58,140
several new property managers appeared

1483
01:01:58,140 --> 01:02:00,299
at the last at least two that I'm aware

1484
01:02:00,299 --> 01:02:02,819
of and uh

1485
01:02:02,819 --> 01:02:04,380
mayor Holland I couldn't agree with you

1486
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:05,460
more

1487
01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:08,339
this is not what the City of Eustis or

1488
01:02:08,339 --> 01:02:10,740
its residents whether they're renters or

1489
01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:13,020
property owners deserve or should be

1490
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:14,400
subjected to

1491
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,319
answer any questions if you have any do

1492
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:17,280
you have a question and I don't know if

1493
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,260
you know this off the top of your head

1494
01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:22,680
how many if if we did

1495
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,619
the shutdown how many people will be

1496
01:02:25,619 --> 01:02:28,020
displaced I really couldn't answer that

1497
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:32,750
Miss God

1498
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:40,680
I really don't know how many residents

1499
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,740
the mobile home park has we could go

1500
01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:46,140
through and count the number of units

1501
01:02:46,140 --> 01:02:48,059
but as far as how many would be

1502
01:02:48,059 --> 01:02:50,400
displaced away for me to tell you well

1503
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,720
we um I I do know there's 119 pads out

1504
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,579
there I don't know if every pad has a

1505
01:02:56,579 --> 01:02:59,819
unit on it but it's 119. that's about

1506
01:02:59,819 --> 01:03:02,299
there's only maybe three pads

1507
01:03:02,299 --> 01:03:05,940
okay one another thing if I may add okay

1508
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:07,980
I know the commission is aware of this

1509
01:03:07,980 --> 01:03:12,059
but as I understand it the uh the reason

1510
01:03:12,059 --> 01:03:15,180
that they're fighting us is because once

1511
01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:18,059
a trailer is condemned the plane is

1512
01:03:18,059 --> 01:03:21,119
placed against it and we order it to be

1513
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:23,640
demolished it cannot be replaced because

1514
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,000
they are over their density

1515
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,160
and so that's one of the big issues that

1516
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,440
their attorney and others have tried to

1517
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,660
confront the code enforcement board with

1518
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:37,200
is because once we order a unit that is

1519
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,380
as disgusting as those you've seen to be

1520
01:03:40,380 --> 01:03:42,359
knocked down they cannot replace it so

1521
01:03:42,359 --> 01:03:44,220
that's a loss of income obviously as she

1522
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:47,890
said it's

1523
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:50,460
when I spoke to the day that we were out

1524
01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:52,520
there and I was speaking to miss Morales

1525
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,859
and I was just brought up the condition

1526
01:03:55,859 --> 01:03:57,660
around some of the parks why the park

1527
01:03:57,660 --> 01:03:59,400
management isn't making sure making sure

1528
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:00,720
it's residents are keeping the area

1529
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,460
around their mobile homes clean and

1530
01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:04,980
sanitary and she told me that's a city's

1531
01:04:04,980 --> 01:04:06,119
job

1532
01:04:06,119 --> 01:04:10,680
um so how many how many um

1533
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,960
how many of these trailers have you been invited into oh

1534
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,180
just uh just number three and number six

1535
01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:20,339
I mean it's number three and number 26.

1536
01:04:20,339 --> 01:04:22,619
is it possible to do and I don't know if

1537
01:04:22,619 --> 01:04:23,760
this is something we want to look at

1538
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,099
doing is it possible to do like a little

1539
01:04:26,099 --> 01:04:27,839
town hall meeting

1540
01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:31,980
with them with just Sharp's Park to talk

1541
01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:34,440
to them and to possibly get into all of

1542
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,299
these units well that's something that I

1543
01:04:36,299 --> 01:04:37,920
want that's one of the focuses that

1544
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,339
we're going to have I sent on July 5th I

1545
01:04:41,339 --> 01:04:43,799
sent Miss Morales an email asking for a

1546
01:04:43,799 --> 01:04:47,280
list of all of all the park owners so I

1547
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,619
could determine which which mobile homes

1548
01:04:49,619 --> 01:04:51,599
are privately owned and which ones the

1549
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,240
park owns yes and I didn't receive

1550
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,980
anything when I when I'd hand delivered

1551
01:04:55,980 --> 01:04:57,540
that life notice of Life Safety

1552
01:04:57,540 --> 01:04:59,760
violation I asked her about it and she

1553
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:00,839
pretty much told me that I'm going to

1554
01:05:00,839 --> 01:05:04,500
have to go to the vice president or you

1555
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:05,339
know the

1556
01:05:05,339 --> 01:05:07,500
she it was not within her authority to

1557
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:09,420
provide that information I would have to

1558
01:05:09,420 --> 01:05:11,579
go to the property owner Hansel

1559
01:05:11,579 --> 01:05:13,680
Rodriguez or the the director of

1560
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,089
operations to to get it

1561
01:05:17,099 --> 01:05:19,380
you can't because it's all in the land

1562
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:21,900
industry and you can't it's not like

1563
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:24,780
real property a mobile home is

1564
01:05:24,780 --> 01:05:26,940
um defined under State Statute as a

1565
01:05:26,940 --> 01:05:28,200
vehicle that's licensed through the

1566
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,420
Department of Motor Vehicles so my

1567
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:31,460
office

1568
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:34,500
no they don't on the land so my office

1569
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:36,720
can't go you know for real property we

1570
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,819
can go to the Lake County Property

1571
01:05:38,819 --> 01:05:40,500
Appraisers website

1572
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:42,839
search it find who the owner of record

1573
01:05:42,839 --> 01:05:45,240
is and send notice out to them well for

1574
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,400
mobile for mobile homes we don't have we

1575
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,780
don't have that capability we don't

1576
01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:50,220
there's no way for us to find you know

1577
01:05:50,220 --> 01:05:54,660
we could run the tag but I bet half the tags in that mobile home are

1578
01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:56,280
expired yeah it seems like we have a

1579
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,500
good representative group tonight we

1580
01:05:58,500 --> 01:05:59,819
should be able to give us some feedback

1581
01:05:59,819 --> 01:06:01,619
yeah and be able to get the word out to

1582
01:06:01,619 --> 01:06:03,359
everyone else yeah yeah

1583
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:08,700
I would I I do want to ask um so we have two types of units in here we

1584
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:10,559
have units that are owned by the

1585
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:12,180
occupants and then we have units that

1586
01:06:12,180 --> 01:06:14,040
are owned by the park that they rent out

1587
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,859
if we were to take code enforcement

1588
01:06:16,859 --> 01:06:18,960
action against a unit that is owner

1589
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,780
occupied is it the owner occupant that

1590
01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:24,359
is being cited or is it the property

1591
01:06:24,359 --> 01:06:26,400
owner that's under Florida statute the

1592
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,140
city cannot

1593
01:06:28,140 --> 01:06:30,660
um impose fines against a park owner for

1594
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:32,760
a violation that's created by a mobile

1595
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,559
home owner

1596
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:35,940
so it would be against the mobile

1597
01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:39,240
homeowner yes okay but we don't know how

1598
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:40,020
many

1599
01:06:40,020 --> 01:06:43,200
well like I'm sorry we don't know how

1600
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,390
many 44.

1601
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,140
structure is crumbling and if the

1602
01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:51,119
infrastructure is what's causing the

1603
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:53,099
problem of the of the mobile home

1604
01:06:53,099 --> 01:06:56,760
planner we can't hold them so like the

1605
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,500
chief was talking about the odor I think

1606
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:01,079
everyone picked it up picked up on it um

1607
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:03,780
when they when they walk through so

1608
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:07,140
there is near 134 they had to do a

1609
01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:09,780
massive uh sewer line repair and they

1610
01:07:09,780 --> 01:07:11,700
had to bypass a bunch and they cut a big

1611
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:13,260
trench and ran a hundred and something

1612
01:07:13,260 --> 01:07:16,380
feet of or relocated so right where the

1613
01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:20,039
lift station is all of that those lines

1614
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:22,380
come into a manhole and if you stand

1615
01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:24,539
right next to the

1616
01:07:24,539 --> 01:07:27,000
in the carport right next to it you can

1617
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,859
smell the odor of sewage I mean it's

1618
01:07:28,859 --> 01:07:31,500
very prominent I asked the

1619
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:33,660
um I asked the property manager could

1620
01:07:33,660 --> 01:07:35,579
you please get a plumber out here and

1621
01:07:35,579 --> 01:07:38,520
find out why there's such an odor coming

1622
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,740
out of this and she says oh we'll look

1623
01:07:40,740 --> 01:07:42,359
into it but they never follow there's a

1624
01:07:42,359 --> 01:07:44,160
lot of flooding in there too every time

1625
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,500
it rains that's that's a cricket police

1626
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:47,880
chief that's where dep is going to come

1627
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,980
in with the state for those those uh

1628
01:07:49,980 --> 01:07:51,839
human waste feces there's feces coming

1629
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:53,700
up out of the ground out of pipes and

1630
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:56,280
when when the state comes in and shuts

1631
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,839
them down that's you know that's what's

1632
01:07:57,839 --> 01:07:59,220
gonna it's gonna take that and the

1633
01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:02,280
residents organizing yeah and and uh not

1634
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,140
tolerating this type of stuff

1635
01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:07,020
thank you let's let's do this let's go

1636
01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:08,760
ahead and hear from a few residents what

1637
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,740
I'm going to ask is if you try if you

1638
01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:13,260
come up we want to hear you I think you

1639
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:15,539
know where we are as a commission at

1640
01:08:15,539 --> 01:08:17,819
this point try not to repeat yourselves

1641
01:08:17,819 --> 01:08:20,880
we do have a good deal of stuff to go we

1642
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:26,819
care believe me uh if if I could ask if I really wanted to push the issue I'd

1643
01:08:26,819 --> 01:08:28,500
have the attorney do something tonight

1644
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:31,259
to where I'd close the place down but

1645
01:08:31,259 --> 01:08:33,060
then it's going to displace every one of

1646
01:08:33,060 --> 01:08:36,299
you and and I can't do that I I've got

1647
01:08:36,299 --> 01:08:37,739
to know that you all are safe and you

1648
01:08:37,739 --> 01:08:39,660
have a place to live

1649
01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:40,920
um but

1650
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,799
um let's hear from a few of you Tom will

1651
01:08:43,799 --> 01:08:46,319
call you up in just a minute

1652
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:48,120
um like I said please just try not to

1653
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,980
repeat too much of what you're what

1654
01:08:49,980 --> 01:08:52,440
trivia is saying Tom go ahead all right

1655
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:55,679
I've got a card from Donna Manning

1656
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,550
Donna you knew you would be first

1657
01:08:57,550 --> 01:09:06,470
[Laughter]

1658
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:09,239
hi I'm Donna Manning and I am the tenant

1659
01:09:09,239 --> 01:09:11,699
from 3 and 26.

1660
01:09:11,699 --> 01:09:13,920
so um

1661
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,239
I moved in there on May 1st of 2021.

1662
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:20,040
I was promised the bathroom would be

1663
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,580
renovated within two to three weeks

1664
01:09:23,580 --> 01:09:26,339
I gave them until August 4th I contacted

1665
01:09:26,339 --> 01:09:28,940
the owner at that time Hansel Rodriguez

1666
01:09:28,940 --> 01:09:31,440
advising him that if something wasn't

1667
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:33,779
done I was going to be forced to file

1668
01:09:33,779 --> 01:09:35,819
complaint with code enforcement I was

1669
01:09:35,819 --> 01:09:37,739
completely ignored by him

1670
01:09:37,739 --> 01:09:39,960
another gentleman named Dave cozy which

1671
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,040
is the

1672
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,900
vice president operations or something

1673
01:09:42,900 --> 01:09:44,400
at that time

1674
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,839
so then I went ahead and filed the

1675
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:48,179
complaint I had no idea

1676
01:09:48,179 --> 01:09:49,920
the amount of danger that I was in until

1677
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,480
Eric came out

1678
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:53,819
I was lied to

1679
01:09:53,819 --> 01:09:56,100
about the wires from the property

1680
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:57,840
manager she says oh no those are dead

1681
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,580
wires don't worry about it

1682
01:09:59,580 --> 01:10:02,040
I couldn't touch those wires my guests

1683
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,840
could have touched those wires and in

1684
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,719
fact one of the park employees at that

1685
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:09,060
time came down and went to cut the one

1686
01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:10,140
down that you've seen in the bathroom

1687
01:10:10,140 --> 01:10:12,480
hanging to the floor and it was like the

1688
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:13,739
Fourth of July

1689
01:10:13,739 --> 01:10:15,239
because she

1690
01:10:15,239 --> 01:10:17,219
the park manager told us that they

1691
01:10:17,219 --> 01:10:19,140
weren't alive she lied she could have

1692
01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:21,659
got somebody killed

1693
01:10:21,659 --> 01:10:24,600
you how many how many uh

1694
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,140
kids are in the in the uh in the trailer

1695
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:30,239
park how many how many kids children

1696
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,040
there's really not many children in

1697
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,199
there it's supposed to be a 55 and older

1698
01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:36,239
okay now how many visit

1699
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:38,100
and have you ever had any kids to visit

1700
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:41,280
yours I have um a good friend of mine

1701
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:42,719
that has brought his daughter there a

1702
01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:45,120
couple of times she was five at the time

1703
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,560
okay yeah all right okay question you you you don't have dance if you want

1704
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,080
to how much is your rent now

1705
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,840
you would have track okay I started out

1706
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,060
at number three the rental agreement was

1707
01:10:57,060 --> 01:11:01,500
541 or 551 I'm sorry

1708
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:03,600
um when it got condemned they moved me

1709
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,760
into 20s they didn't move me into 26 I

1710
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,659
moved myself they did nothing for me

1711
01:11:09,659 --> 01:11:13,320
um and then they told me it was 5 41.

1712
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,880
the property manager the current

1713
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,320
property manager filed an eviction

1714
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,800
against me on the 12th of September

1715
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,820
stating that my monthly rent is 524.

1716
01:11:23,820 --> 01:11:26,280
it was dismissed by the judge because

1717
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,340
it included somebody else's paperwork so

1718
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:31,080
the judges missed it she went and

1719
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,580
refiled it

1720
01:11:32,580 --> 01:11:34,800
the following week following Monday now

1721
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,840
it's 5 42 so she doesn't even know so

1722
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,480
how do I know what my rent is Hispanic

1723
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:41,100
what does that include

1724
01:11:41,100 --> 01:11:43,260
what what does your rent include it's

1725
01:11:43,260 --> 01:11:46,679
supposed they do pay the electric okay

1726
01:11:46,679 --> 01:11:48,239
um and it's supposed to include Lawn

1727
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:50,699
Care my grass right now is

1728
01:11:50,699 --> 01:11:54,000
I know what about water you pay your own

1729
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,140
water or what

1730
01:11:55,140 --> 01:11:57,480
um no yeah we pay 67 a month water

1731
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:00,560
that's the base rents like 475 and then

1732
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,440
67 water do you pay 67 to the city or to

1733
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:07,500
the yeah we pay it all to the park you

1734
01:12:07,500 --> 01:12:09,300
pay it to the park it's it's a Master

1735
01:12:09,300 --> 01:12:11,340
Meter so one meter

1736
01:12:11,340 --> 01:12:13,679
um 67 what do you pay

1737
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:15,199
60

1738
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:20,520
67. 67 a month there's 119 units in

1739
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,780
there but

1740
01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:23,400
probably I'm going to say at least 10 to

1741
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,020
12 of them are

1742
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:27,120
dumps

1743
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,820
they're abandoned they're rat infested

1744
01:12:29,820 --> 01:12:44,410
causing other tenants to have rats

1745
01:12:44,420 --> 01:12:55,090
it's on the other side of the street

1746
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:57,420
yeah she's she's one of the previous

1747
01:12:57,420 --> 01:12:59,820
managers there and when she was the

1748
01:12:59,820 --> 01:13:01,440
manager there somebody came down from

1749
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,840
either Jacksonville or Gainesville or

1750
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,300
something some inspectors 26 sharp

1751
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:09,420
Circle and 209 sharp Circle have no VIN

1752
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:11,580
number on them they're not titled

1753
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:15,770
and they can never be sold

1754
01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:17,880
but I I'm thinking that maybe because

1755
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,140
they're on their property they have the

1756
01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:20,699
right to rent them I don't know that I

1757
01:13:20,699 --> 01:13:23,219
don't know the laws

1758
01:13:23,219 --> 01:13:25,080
um

1759
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,360
so I'm not sure how that works but those

1760
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,739
are the only two rentals and I did

1761
01:13:28,739 --> 01:13:29,940
receive

1762
01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:33,120
a letter from their attorney Mr Arbiter

1763
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,880
on um the well

1764
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,739
I about a prohibitive practice case

1765
01:13:37,739 --> 01:13:39,480
against them they turned my electric off

1766
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:41,340
the week of Christmas last year

1767
01:13:41,340 --> 01:13:43,500
the the previous management yeah no

1768
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:46,260
warning nothing 40 degrees at night no

1769
01:13:46,260 --> 01:13:48,179
heat nothing

1770
01:13:48,179 --> 01:13:49,860
so I found a prohibited practice case

1771
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:51,420
against them and I settled out of court

1772
01:13:51,420 --> 01:13:53,100
with them

1773
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:55,739
three days later I got a letter in the

1774
01:13:55,739 --> 01:13:57,840
mail saying we are no longer renting it

1775
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,580
after September 30th you need to be out

1776
01:13:59,580 --> 01:14:01,500
on September 30th

1777
01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:02,940
after all they've put me through and now

1778
01:14:02,940 --> 01:14:04,800
they throw him out on the street because

1779
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,080
all of a sudden it's not September 30th

1780
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,000
of this month that you've yes ma'am

1781
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,679
you're going to be evicted I got it I

1782
01:14:10,679 --> 01:14:12,780
was posted on my door today from the

1783
01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:13,860
sheriffs

1784
01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:16,620
I have a question

1785
01:14:16,620 --> 01:14:19,010
um

1786
01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:22,380
is an entity that does not have a water

1787
01:14:22,380 --> 01:14:24,540
service let's just say like you know we

1788
01:14:24,540 --> 01:14:26,640
have our own water and we pay when

1789
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,520
they're collecting are legally is the

1790
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,800
park allowed to make money

1791
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,900
off of their water

1792
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:35,640
I'd have to check um normally they

1793
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,159
charge what what the actual expense is

1794
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:40,199
um there might be a minor fee that they

1795
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:41,760
can charge for administration normally

1796
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,440
but I don't know about making money

1797
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:45,260
that's not something

1798
01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:47,880
yeah every Public Services I can double

1799
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:48,739
check

1800
01:14:48,739 --> 01:14:51,540
we have one meter how do you yeah yeah

1801
01:14:51,540 --> 01:14:54,980
every time I pay 67 dollars

1802
01:14:54,980 --> 01:14:57,480
let's just say they have one meter and

1803
01:14:57,480 --> 01:15:02,340
the bill is you know 500 a month I'm just using it

1804
01:15:02,340 --> 01:15:03,980
for for round numbers

1805
01:15:03,980 --> 01:15:06,480
for whatever you you

1806
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,580
to my knowledge I I don't think they're

1807
01:15:08,580 --> 01:15:10,380
allowed to make money it doesn't sound

1808
01:15:10,380 --> 01:15:13,140
like they should no it's again I

1809
01:15:13,140 --> 01:15:14,580
understand your administration fee but

1810
01:15:14,580 --> 01:15:16,080
you know what exactly yes you know where

1811
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,760
I'm going with that yeah a lot of that

1812
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,739
does cover a common areas where if they

1813
01:15:19,739 --> 01:15:21,840
have Landscaping I'm not sure what the

1814
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,239
circumstances are but obviously the

1815
01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:26,040
charge could include common areas as

1816
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:27,540
well which may not be just for the unit

1817
01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:29,880
but it's typically something that is

1818
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,440
Administrative do you all have

1819
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:43,250
irrigation

1820
01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:45,300
if there is an administration fee I'd

1821
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:47,760
like to know exactly what that entails

1822
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,860
you know truthfully what I think we need

1823
01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:52,260
to do and I'm not trying to cut any of

1824
01:15:52,260 --> 01:15:54,780
you off we're dealing with just the

1825
01:15:54,780 --> 01:15:57,900
foreclosure on this right now we we need

1826
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:00,120
to have a community meeting

1827
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,820
um and and let's do it that way I'm not

1828
01:16:02,820 --> 01:16:04,739
trying to stop any of you from talking

1829
01:16:04,739 --> 01:16:07,380
tonight but I think what we need to do

1830
01:16:07,380 --> 01:16:09,780
is just go ahead and deal with what's in

1831
01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:11,219
front of us

1832
01:16:11,219 --> 01:16:12,659
um I think we can get ourselves into a

1833
01:16:12,659 --> 01:16:14,520
lot of trouble if we don't just deal

1834
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,440
with this right now

1835
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:18,780
um and then get with we'll get with Eric

1836
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:20,940
and we'll come out we'll post a notice

1837
01:16:20,940 --> 01:16:23,340
of when we can all get back together and

1838
01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:25,140
to make it easier on you all we might

1839
01:16:25,140 --> 01:16:27,540
just try to have it maybe at the Chamber

1840
01:16:27,540 --> 01:16:30,540
of Commerce building in the back room

1841
01:16:30,540 --> 01:16:32,280
um and have an open meeting where you

1842
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,239
all can come as um uh residents to talk

1843
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:38,699
to us I've got one question before I let

1844
01:16:38,699 --> 01:16:41,699
anybody sit down is is the manager of

1845
01:16:41,699 --> 01:16:43,920
the park here tonight is the attorney

1846
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,540
here tonight or is there a

1847
01:16:45,540 --> 01:16:46,920
representative from the owner here

1848
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,659
tonight yeah

1849
01:16:48,659 --> 01:16:51,360
answers a lot of my questions he did Mr

1850
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,920
Arbiter stated that he had a conflict

1851
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,199
because he was just alerted as far as

1852
01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:57,300
today's tonight's meeting

1853
01:16:57,300 --> 01:16:59,520
um and he is in Davie so he would have

1854
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,739
to travel about four hours to be here

1855
01:17:01,739 --> 01:17:03,360
tonight so

1856
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,980
um

1857
01:17:04,980 --> 01:17:07,199
he has he has a manager that represents

1858
01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:08,460
them that could have been here as well

1859
01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:11,219
so I just wanted to be clear I

1860
01:17:11,219 --> 01:17:12,840
appreciate that the only problem with

1861
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,300
that is because these tenants have

1862
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:17,940
watched me be retaliated against for 18

1863
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:21,840
months now on that part they're afraid because if you speak up

1864
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,930
you get evicted

1865
01:17:25,940 --> 01:17:28,260
I just want to let everyone know I put a

1866
01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:29,699
stack of my business cards on the table

1867
01:17:29,699 --> 01:17:31,440
by the front door so as you're going out

1868
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:36,310
if you would like one grab it

1869
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,940
you're gonna have to come up to do it

1870
01:17:38,940 --> 01:17:40,620
and I did want to answer somebody's

1871
01:17:40,620 --> 01:17:42,060
question and ask if there was mold in

1872
01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:43,920
the unit yes there was my cat passed

1873
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,080
away from it and now now as you can see

1874
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,520
I'm having breathing problems so I'm

1875
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,930
like yes

1876
01:17:49,940 --> 01:17:53,100
your name please guys I just want to uh

1877
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:56,570
Carlos

1878
01:17:56,580 --> 01:17:58,199
um I've only been there for a few short

1879
01:17:58,199 --> 01:17:59,460
months

1880
01:17:59,460 --> 01:18:02,900
um I actually own and bought the trailer

1881
01:18:02,900 --> 01:18:05,040
with everything I had

1882
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,440
uh because I was living in a hotel so I

1883
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:09,239
had no choice

1884
01:18:09,239 --> 01:18:12,120
um I don't have a lease I don't know who

1885
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,980
else has the leash but I don't have a

1886
01:18:13,980 --> 01:18:15,300
lease

1887
01:18:15,300 --> 01:18:17,640
I don't I don't have a lease and they

1888
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,860
have changed my rent every single month

1889
01:18:19,860 --> 01:18:23,450
since I've been there

1890
01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:25,800
I just want to let everybody know that I

1891
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,840
don't have a lease

1892
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,120
all right

1893
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,040
I don't I don't know what my rights are

1894
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,440
without Elise

1895
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:38,340
um and one more thing Lake Shore Drive

1896
01:18:38,340 --> 01:18:40,500
sir if you could please

1897
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:44,300
30 miles an hour without the remote

1898
01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:48,120
it's crazy it's crazy sure so I'm just

1899
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,400
going to smash right through my my place

1900
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,380
I just wanted to make that I don't have

1901
01:18:52,380 --> 01:18:54,900
a lease thank you well as far as Elise

1902
01:18:54,900 --> 01:18:56,400
is concerned you can't have a motion

1903
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,480
month please you're not you're not

1904
01:18:57,480 --> 01:18:59,580
required to have a lease in writing per

1905
01:18:59,580 --> 01:19:01,440
se I don't want to get into

1906
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:04,739
the the legal issues that their owner

1907
01:19:04,739 --> 01:19:06,120
that you know shark might have it so

1908
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,080
that's concerned but there are

1909
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,659
month-to-month leases and that could be

1910
01:19:09,659 --> 01:19:11,640
what's being applied now there are

1911
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,080
requirements and obviously that would

1912
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,699
have to be it's case specific so I would

1913
01:19:14,699 --> 01:19:16,679
not feel comfortable you know saying

1914
01:19:16,679 --> 01:19:18,659
anything uh on the record about that

1915
01:19:18,659 --> 01:19:20,880
because it depends on on each unit but

1916
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,440
there is there's such a thing as month

1917
01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:23,760
to month

1918
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,880
on the folks that uh if they try to

1919
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,520
retaliate is there anything we can do as

1920
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,199
a city

1921
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:33,540
um to stop them from kicking these folks

1922
01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:35,640
out of their residence until we can come

1923
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,920
to an agreement

1924
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,460
we could um look into because of the

1925
01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:43,739
safety issues possibly enjoining them

1926
01:19:43,739 --> 01:19:49,320
from from taking action against the actual occupants okay we'll go ahead

1927
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:50,580
and start checking on that absolutely

1928
01:19:50,580 --> 01:19:52,199
because we're going to have to do

1929
01:19:52,199 --> 01:19:55,380
something yeah so it sounds like most of

1930
01:19:55,380 --> 01:19:59,219
the mobile homes are home yes which is

1931
01:19:59,219 --> 01:20:04,270
totally opposite from what my

1932
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:08,100
so if you foreclose on the property

1933
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,159
underneath

1934
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:13,560
the performance it's a it's a it's a

1935
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:18,120
mess SMS but right now

1936
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,219
people are going to die out there if we

1937
01:20:20,219 --> 01:20:23,280
don't step in it's getting worse

1938
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,620
um do we know if they're owners that are

1939
01:20:25,620 --> 01:20:27,840
actually selling

1940
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,340
their

1941
01:20:29,340 --> 01:20:34,970
mobile homes 2 44 sharp now

1942
01:20:34,980 --> 01:20:37,800
okay yeah another question I have is can

1943
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,840
they move to another place if they find

1944
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,540
if we can find another mobile home park

1945
01:20:42,540 --> 01:20:44,640
where they can move their homes to is

1946
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,860
that is that most of those places are

1947
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:54,110
not movable they're on wheels off

1948
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,380
so looking at

1949
01:20:55,380 --> 01:20:59,770
him

1950
01:20:59,780 --> 01:21:01,739
all right

1951
01:21:01,739 --> 01:21:04,320
let's go ahead and bring it back to you

1952
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,000
um if you want to close this part and

1953
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,800
we'll do what we need to do all right so

1954
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:08,880
we're going to go ahead and close public

1955
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,000
comment I I'm I'm sorry mayor I do have

1956
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,980
one more card

1957
01:21:13,980 --> 01:21:16,140
who do we have uh it's just someone

1958
01:21:16,140 --> 01:21:18,659
who's identified as Dawn

1959
01:21:18,659 --> 01:21:20,880
John do you need to speak or do you are

1960
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,400
you going to let us okay come on up real

1961
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,330
quick

1962
01:21:26,340 --> 01:21:33,770
thank you

1963
01:21:33,780 --> 01:21:36,360
I just want to briefly say too because I

1964
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,140
am a tenant there I bought my mobile

1965
01:21:40,140 --> 01:21:42,840
two years ago after Mr Rodriguez had

1966
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,699
bought the property

1967
01:21:44,699 --> 01:21:46,199
um I moved from out of state to be close

1968
01:21:46,199 --> 01:21:47,580
to my mother

1969
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:50,760
and supposedly reading in the paper the

1970
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,320
improvements and bringing things stuff

1971
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,820
up to code was kind of one of the

1972
01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:56,340
reasons plus being low income

1973
01:21:56,340 --> 01:21:58,800
that was something I could afford even

1974
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,719
though it was a fixer-upper and I'm

1975
01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:02,820
pretty handy

1976
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:06,300
um nobody has seen Mr Rodriguez since he

1977
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:08,400
bought the property I know that there's

1978
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,260
been other tenants that have reached out

1979
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:11,580
to try to get a hold of him about

1980
01:22:11,580 --> 01:22:14,100
certain things that needed fixing

1981
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:18,060
updated and nobody's got no responses

1982
01:22:18,060 --> 01:22:19,020
um

1983
01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:21,179
as far as that electric pole that tipped

1984
01:22:21,179 --> 01:22:23,219
over I was the one that actually came up

1985
01:22:23,219 --> 01:22:24,840
across that after I went and checked my

1986
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,060
mail and was coming through the park and

1987
01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:28,860
I noticed it laying down so I kept my

1988
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:31,679
car parked there and I called Duke

1989
01:22:31,679 --> 01:22:33,420
Energy and different things to try to

1990
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:35,040
get somebody come out because that area

1991
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,040
is always flooded when it rains then

1992
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,020
Poles get rotted after so many years and

1993
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:42,120
it just tipped right over

1994
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,260
you know

1995
01:22:43,260 --> 01:22:46,980
just being you know access to that

1996
01:22:46,980 --> 01:22:47,760
um

1997
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,520
because lot rent has been rising in the

1998
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,960
two years I've been there it started out

1999
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,900
at like 3 45 when I moved in two years

2000
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:58,320
ago as of last month with the base rent

2001
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,520
the water sewered lawn

2002
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,620
um two years back taxes were being

2003
01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:08,340
charged for uh almost 18 a month for a

2004
01:23:08,340 --> 01:23:09,480
year

2005
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:12,179
to pay property taxes of the past two

2006
01:23:12,179 --> 01:23:12,900
years

2007
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:15,659
has been added onto our flat rate

2008
01:23:15,659 --> 01:23:19,380
so mine right now is 570 dollars a month

2009
01:23:19,380 --> 01:23:21,300
I make about a thousand three hundred

2010
01:23:21,300 --> 01:23:23,940
months I'm being evicted next week

2011
01:23:23,940 --> 01:23:27,420
because I cannot afford the lot rent

2012
01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:29,340
and I'll be homeless because I have no

2013
01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:30,719
place to go

2014
01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:32,580
and there's like four other people in

2015
01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:34,380
the park that are also being evicted

2016
01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:36,060
because we can't afford and we're

2017
01:23:36,060 --> 01:23:40,390
getting behind on a rent

2018
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,620
and I live next to the three empty ones

2019
01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:46,560
by the railroad tracks for two years

2020
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,600
they don't keep the grass and weeds

2021
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,940
around the trailer kept up I tried doing

2022
01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:53,640
it I get full of splinters and Spurs and

2023
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,140
everything from the weeds and the little

2024
01:23:55,140 --> 01:23:56,640
Sanders

2025
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,460
the grass is now getting up to our hips

2026
01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:03,300
and if we do it I asked the manager for

2027
01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:06,060
um a discount on my rent because I'm

2028
01:24:06,060 --> 01:24:07,440
doing my own lawn even if it's sweet

2029
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:09,960
with a weeder she said no you're doing

2030
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,540
that out of the kindness of your heart

2031
01:24:12,540 --> 01:24:15,000
okay that I can't get a discount on my

2032
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,980
rent even though it was in the main

2033
01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:18,659
paperwork we get

2034
01:24:18,659 --> 01:24:20,760
I live next to those three empty

2035
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,860
trailers for two years

2036
01:24:22,860 --> 01:24:25,320
I am the one that went and re-boarded up

2037
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,320
number three because of homelessness

2038
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,480
constantly going in there in the middle

2039
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:33,780
of the night to do whatever they do and

2040
01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:36,659
how can we sleep restfully when we don't

2041
01:24:36,659 --> 01:24:38,400
know what's going on next door to us

2042
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,920
whether someone's gonna break in or

2043
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,540
whatever or the place is going to burn

2044
01:24:42,540 --> 01:24:44,040
down because who knows what they're

2045
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:44,820
doing

2046
01:24:44,820 --> 01:24:47,940
it took me a half a day with a herniated

2047
01:24:47,940 --> 01:24:50,040
disc to board that trailer up completely

2048
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:55,810
so they could not get in there

2049
01:24:55,820 --> 01:24:59,520
and a lot of the owners most people own

2050
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,860
their trailers there and what he was

2051
01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:03,900
saying about coming in to inspect

2052
01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:06,420
everybody's place that the owners would

2053
01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:07,980
be the ones to get and find if there's

2054
01:25:07,980 --> 01:25:10,320
any no that's a problem we were just

2055
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,060
concentrating on trying to find the ones

2056
01:25:12,060 --> 01:25:13,760
that were owned by the mobile home park

2057
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,440
okay because owners we were trying to

2058
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:18,600
find out who the ones were so we could

2059
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,940
separate those out and do a process of

2060
01:25:20,940 --> 01:25:23,520
elimination and find out which ones the

2061
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:24,780
park actually are because I would say

2062
01:25:24,780 --> 01:25:26,040
that the owners would probably be

2063
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,780
reluctant to let you know them come in

2064
01:25:27,780 --> 01:25:29,699
and check because who knows how long

2065
01:25:29,699 --> 01:25:31,800
they've been there and with our limited

2066
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,480
income it's hard to try to make

2067
01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:35,040
improvements

2068
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,260
and I would be glad to see something

2069
01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:39,360
being done all right thank you so much

2070
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,580
thank you well I'll close the public

2071
01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:44,280
comment section all right Commissioners

2072
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,699
we have the force resolution number

2073
01:25:46,699 --> 01:25:49,320
22-68 what's the will of our commission

2074
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,960
so moved second all right first and

2075
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,780
second any further discussion

2076
01:25:54,780 --> 01:25:56,699
roll call please

2077
01:25:56,699 --> 01:25:58,980
commissioner Smith

2078
01:25:58,980 --> 01:26:00,900
commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

2079
01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:03,659
Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

2080
01:26:03,659 --> 01:26:05,100
Holland aye

2081
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:07,199
folks we're going to work on this so

2082
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:10,080
bear with us Eric Martin we'll start

2083
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,000
we'll get you a date where we can all

2084
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,500
meet and sit and talk for a little bit

2085
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:16,560
okay and we will publicize that meeting

2086
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,780
so that all the commission can be there

2087
01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:20,400
and we can interact with you a little

2088
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,340
bit better okay thank you and I'm very

2089
01:26:23,340 --> 01:26:24,120
sorry

2090
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,060
it's heartbreaking Madam attorney

2091
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:30,840
next we have resolution 22-69 a

2092
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,340
resolution of the city Commission of the

2093
01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:34,320
City of Eustis Florida approving a code

2094
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:35,820
enforcement board action to authorize

2095
01:26:35,820 --> 01:26:37,560
the City attorney to foreclose on two

2096
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,000
outstanding code enforcement liens

2097
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,739
recorded against 15 hassles on the

2098
01:26:40,739 --> 01:26:42,719
street

2099
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:45,239
so mayor we do not have a formal

2100
01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:47,880
presentation uh this is a case where

2101
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,400
we've had some issues uh some issues

2102
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,739
with uh water customer service and the

2103
01:26:52,739 --> 01:26:58,080
water meter I think at this point it is

2104
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,199
um occupied by

2105
01:27:00,199 --> 01:27:03,480
squatters basically and we're

2106
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:06,300
recommending moving forward with the

2107
01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:09,540
foreclosure on the lien if you do have

2108
01:27:09,540 --> 01:27:11,400
any questions again Mr Martin is here

2109
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,020
Chief Capri has had some interaction

2110
01:27:13,020 --> 01:27:14,580
with the people that are currently in

2111
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:16,860
the house and so we'd be happy to try to

2112
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:19,380
answer any questions you may have

2113
01:27:19,380 --> 01:27:21,900
it's really bad is there anyone in the

2114
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:23,100
audience that would like to speak as to

2115
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:25,620
resolution 22-69

2116
01:27:25,620 --> 01:27:27,060
seeing

2117
01:27:27,060 --> 01:27:30,659
we just resolution 22-69

2118
01:27:30,659 --> 01:27:32,239
.

2119
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:35,400
y'all it's not your part yes

2120
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,980
[Laughter]

2121
01:27:37,980 --> 01:27:40,380
seeing none Mr Mayor commissioners

2122
01:27:40,380 --> 01:27:41,960
before us we have resolution

2123
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,460
22-69 what's the will of our commission

2124
01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:46,620
so moved thank you second thank you

2125
01:27:46,620 --> 01:27:49,139
ma'am any further discussion not hearing

2126
01:27:49,139 --> 01:27:51,000
any roll call please commissioner hope

2127
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:51,840
Smith

2128
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,880
commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

2129
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,400
Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

2130
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,260
Holland aye

2131
01:27:58,260 --> 01:28:01,139
next we have resolution 22-64 a

2132
01:28:01,139 --> 01:28:02,820
resolution by the city Commission of the

2133
01:28:02,820 --> 01:28:04,320
City of Eustis Lake County Florida

2134
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,540
adopting the final millage Levy of ad

2135
01:28:06,540 --> 01:28:08,219
valorem taxes for the City of Eustis

2136
01:28:08,219 --> 01:28:10,460
Lake County for the fiscal year

2137
01:28:10,460 --> 01:28:12,960
2022-2023 providing for an effective

2138
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,340
date

2139
01:28:14,340 --> 01:28:16,920
mayor members of commission Mike Shepard

2140
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,440
Finance director uh tonight we're doing

2141
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:21,600
the final reading on the millage rate

2142
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,699
it's going to be 7581

2143
01:28:23,699 --> 01:28:25,440
and um

2144
01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:28,139
it is 8.2 percent higher than the

2145
01:28:28,139 --> 01:28:30,480
rollback rate of seven

2146
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:33,420
00464.

2147
01:28:33,420 --> 01:28:36,709
uh any questions

2148
01:28:36,719 --> 01:28:40,080
nope okay for anyone in the audience I

2149
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,390
would like to speak on resolution 22-64

2150
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,500
seeing none public comment is closed Mr

2151
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:48,179
Mann commissioners before speaking of

2152
01:28:48,179 --> 01:28:50,820
resolution 22-64 what's the will of our

2153
01:28:50,820 --> 01:28:53,159
commission move for approval thank you

2154
01:28:53,159 --> 01:28:54,060
ma'am

2155
01:28:54,060 --> 01:28:56,100
a second thank you ma'am any further

2156
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:58,199
discussion not hearing any roll call

2157
01:28:58,199 --> 01:29:00,600
please commissioner of the Hope Smith

2158
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,699
aye commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

2159
01:29:02,699 --> 01:29:05,280
Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

2160
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:06,840
Holland aye

2161
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,960
and last we have resolution 22-65 a

2162
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,639
resolution by the city Commission of the

2163
01:29:11,639 --> 01:29:12,960
City of Eustis Lee County Florida

2164
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,880
adopting the final budget for the fiscal

2165
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:15,679
year

2166
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:17,940
2022-2023 providing for an effective

2167
01:29:17,940 --> 01:29:21,480
date Mr Shepard yes this uh is the final

2168
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:24,780
reading for the this year's budget this

2169
01:29:24,780 --> 01:29:26,639
is the document that

2170
01:29:26,639 --> 01:29:28,500
culminates everything that we've talked

2171
01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:31,320
about for the last three or four months

2172
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:32,960
so

2173
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,280
we've had to try to get as much input as

2174
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:36,139
we could

2175
01:29:36,139 --> 01:29:39,020
directors uh you all

2176
01:29:39,020 --> 01:29:42,060
and staff have really done a great job

2177
01:29:42,060 --> 01:29:45,480
of putting this document together and

2178
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:47,280
getting the information necessary for it

2179
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:52,440
and the millage rate will support this for the general fund

2180
01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:53,580
and

2181
01:29:53,580 --> 01:29:57,060
I do want to give credit the photos

2182
01:29:57,060 --> 01:29:58,679
we're

2183
01:29:58,679 --> 01:30:00,540
from

2184
01:30:00,540 --> 01:30:03,120
Salt Lake Nature Center

2185
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,420
they provided those that's so cute they

2186
01:30:06,420 --> 01:30:08,219
were yes

2187
01:30:08,219 --> 01:30:10,199
any questions from the commission

2188
01:30:10,199 --> 01:30:11,520
is there anyone in the audience that

2189
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,699
would like to speak on resolution 22-65

2190
01:30:14,699 --> 01:30:16,440
seeing none public comment is closed Mr

2191
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:17,940
Mayor Commissioners report staff

2192
01:30:17,940 --> 01:30:20,520
resolution number 22-65 what's the will

2193
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:25,750
of our commission

2194
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:30,239
thank you all any further discussion not

2195
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:31,380
hearing any roll call please

2196
01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:33,480
commissioner hope Smith

2197
01:30:33,480 --> 01:30:35,400
aye commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

2198
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,920
Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee I'm mayor

2199
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:39,900
Holland aye Mike thank you and your

2200
01:30:39,900 --> 01:30:41,880
staff for all you've done it was a

2201
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,440
pleasure to work with you all this year

2202
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:46,020
on this I hope you enjoy the process and

2203
01:30:46,020 --> 01:30:49,980
I think it's well worthwhile thank you madam attorney thank you so

2204
01:30:49,980 --> 01:30:51,900
much if you would start looking on some

2205
01:30:51,900 --> 01:30:53,100
of those you've heard some of our

2206
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:54,780
concerns with Sharpsburg if you all

2207
01:30:54,780 --> 01:30:56,100
could start working on absolutely

2208
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:58,620
fourths please thank you so much other

2209
01:30:58,620 --> 01:31:00,719
business uh City commission compensation

2210
01:31:00,719 --> 01:31:03,659
Mr Howe

2211
01:31:03,659 --> 01:31:06,420
Bill Howe Director of Human Resources

2212
01:31:06,420 --> 01:31:08,760
you've been provided a staff report

2213
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,820
regarding commission compensation this

2214
01:31:11,820 --> 01:31:13,320
is based on the conversation of the last

2215
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:14,520
commission meeting where the commission

2216
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:15,980
asked staff to make a recommendation

2217
01:31:15,980 --> 01:31:19,500
based on area municipality wages paid to

2218
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:21,620
Commissioners and the mayor

2219
01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:25,100
brief summary is we've recommended

2220
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:27,300
the current amount for the commission is

2221
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:29,280
fifty four hundred dollars a month a

2222
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:33,780
year excuse me uh that was a year now to

2223
01:31:33,780 --> 01:31:36,179
make a difference

2224
01:31:36,179 --> 01:31:39,560
yeah you want to see 400 annually

2225
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,239
as we said that was last adjusted in

2226
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:46,500
1989 33 years ago uh the com the wages

2227
01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:49,380
for the mayor's 6400 annually we're

2228
01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:51,120
recommending that when you look at the

2229
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,820
top eight population jurisdictions in

2230
01:31:53,820 --> 01:31:55,920
the county and you average those other

2231
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:57,659
than Eustis the average is eight

2232
01:31:57,659 --> 01:31:59,159
thousand dollars that's our

2233
01:31:59,159 --> 01:32:01,260
recommendation for the commission the

2234
01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:03,360
average of the mayor's positions in the

2235
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,739
other large cities uh is 9751 annually

2236
01:32:07,739 --> 01:32:10,699
we're recommending a uh an amount of

2237
01:32:10,699 --> 01:32:13,139
97.50 annually

2238
01:32:13,139 --> 01:32:16,560
we'd also recommend that the commission

2239
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,600
consider making future increases

2240
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,460
annually as given to other General

2241
01:32:20,460 --> 01:32:22,260
employees that will prevent us from

2242
01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:24,420
going 33 years without looking in a wage

2243
01:32:24,420 --> 01:32:25,400
adjustment

2244
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,260
I provided information at the last

2245
01:32:28,260 --> 01:32:30,420
meeting regarding medical insurance it's

2246
01:32:30,420 --> 01:32:33,199
provided to two cities in Lake County

2247
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:35,639
and then we're asking what the will of

2248
01:32:35,639 --> 01:32:36,900
the commission is regarding the medical

2249
01:32:36,900 --> 01:32:38,940
insurance I've provided cost information

2250
01:32:38,940 --> 01:32:41,340
for those and I'd be happy to answer any

2251
01:32:41,340 --> 01:32:44,760
questions of Bill

2252
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:46,199
all right

2253
01:32:46,199 --> 01:32:48,600
um so this will need to come back for a

2254
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,460
vote correct Tom

2255
01:32:50,460 --> 01:32:51,600
yes

2256
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,760
um we're asking for consensus this

2257
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,679
evening and if if what we've recommended

2258
01:32:55,679 --> 01:32:58,440
is acceptable then we'll actually have

2259
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:00,780
to bring back a budget amendment sure um

2260
01:33:00,780 --> 01:33:03,900
but it's um the total cost is such that

2261
01:33:03,900 --> 01:33:05,460
it's something that we can take out of

2262
01:33:05,460 --> 01:33:06,560
contingency

2263
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,060
and so but we do have to bring back a

2264
01:33:09,060 --> 01:33:11,040
budget amendment for you so wage

2265
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,260
increase if the wage increases were made

2266
01:33:13,260 --> 01:33:15,360
total increases thirteen thousand seven

2267
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,760
hundred fifty dollars in wages okay so

2268
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,639
let's let's talk compensation first uh

2269
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:22,199
Karen are you okay with the change in

2270
01:33:22,199 --> 01:33:26,100
compensation Emily Willy yeah all right

2271
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:28,080
so you've got unanimous on compensation

2272
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,780
let's go to health insurance

2273
01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:32,520
um man what do you feel about health

2274
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,620
insurance well I know you're purchasing

2275
01:33:34,620 --> 01:33:36,540
it I purchased the city insurance and

2276
01:33:36,540 --> 01:33:38,219
make no mistake it is wonderful

2277
01:33:38,219 --> 01:33:41,400
Insurance yes but and it's just a single

2278
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,159
policy on myself and it's about 900 a

2279
01:33:44,159 --> 01:33:45,020
month

2280
01:33:45,020 --> 01:33:47,639
so you're eating up everything you make

2281
01:33:47,639 --> 01:33:49,440
just to pay for insurance pretty much I

2282
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:52,260
work for nothing so yeah but which is it

2283
01:33:52,260 --> 01:33:55,620
is what it is so you know I can

2284
01:33:55,620 --> 01:33:57,719
I'll take it either way you know what

2285
01:33:57,719 --> 01:34:00,540
I'm saying you know I look at the 2600

2286
01:34:00,540 --> 01:34:03,179
jump and and I'm good with that I'm good

2287
01:34:03,179 --> 01:34:05,100
with that you know whatever the will of

2288
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:06,900
the commission is I mean I'm good either

2289
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:08,940
way do you want to add insurance or you

2290
01:34:08,940 --> 01:34:10,500
want to leave it just the compensation

2291
01:34:10,500 --> 01:34:12,719
change will you I don't need it but I

2292
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:14,940
think that

2293
01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:21,370
the option should be there okay yes

2294
01:34:21,380 --> 01:34:24,960
exactly are we considered part-time you

2295
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:25,860
are

2296
01:34:25,860 --> 01:34:29,340
our part-timers offered Insurance not in

2297
01:34:29,340 --> 01:34:30,540
the city no

2298
01:34:30,540 --> 01:34:33,060
so I would say no okay

2299
01:34:33,060 --> 01:34:37,550
and Emily

2300
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,600
um it should be nothing it should be an

2301
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,060
option okay and I think it should be an

2302
01:34:42,060 --> 01:34:44,340
option also I I don't I'm like you

2303
01:34:44,340 --> 01:34:46,320
really I don't need it but it's my work

2304
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,480
right more than wealth takes care of me

2305
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:50,940
but I think it should be an option and I

2306
01:34:50,940 --> 01:34:53,219
think it will make it more appealing to

2307
01:34:53,219 --> 01:34:54,719
people that may want to run for City

2308
01:34:54,719 --> 01:34:57,900
commission and and I will say this I

2309
01:34:57,900 --> 01:34:59,760
know we're considered part-time but I

2310
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,400
can promise you it's not

2311
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,980
I think you all know that I do more than

2312
01:35:04,980 --> 01:35:08,820
27 hours and Karen I do believe we had

2313
01:35:08,820 --> 01:35:11,880
it at one time I did do away with it so

2314
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,620
um it was an option before I think it

2315
01:35:13,620 --> 01:35:15,239
should be something optional that people

2316
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:18,540
want to opt for it all right I think the

2317
01:35:18,540 --> 01:35:21,120
part of the reason we took it away

2318
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,179
because then more commissioners

2319
01:35:24,179 --> 01:35:25,739
were paid

2320
01:35:25,739 --> 01:35:27,659
additional

2321
01:35:27,659 --> 01:35:29,940
seem like

2322
01:35:29,940 --> 01:35:31,199
um

2323
01:35:31,199 --> 01:35:36,480
for the insurance I mean as a as

2324
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:38,580
well I guess if you only take it on

2325
01:35:38,580 --> 01:35:41,100
yourself the city pays all of the

2326
01:35:41,100 --> 01:35:43,199
insurance depending on what plan you

2327
01:35:43,199 --> 01:35:45,420
selected there are some two of the base

2328
01:35:45,420 --> 01:35:48,120
plans there would be no charge for the

2329
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,900
commissioner City cost that's where the

2330
01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:54,500
inequality came out about because the

2331
01:35:54,500 --> 01:36:00,719
Commissioners that chose it was they were covered by the taxpayer

2332
01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:04,920
so that was why it was deleted

2333
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,480
and they did the same time they did away

2334
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:09,840
with FRS as well yes yeah it was a lot

2335
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,040
of different reasons there was a lot of

2336
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,020
different things they did away with

2337
01:36:13,020 --> 01:36:15,300
yeah just because there was some some

2338
01:36:15,300 --> 01:36:16,560
Commissioners felt there was an

2339
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,360
inequality yeah and I just didn't

2340
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,420
remember the reasons and and you know it

2341
01:36:21,420 --> 01:36:23,880
could be a situation where if you just

2342
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:24,719
um

2343
01:36:24,719 --> 01:36:27,420
do the base whatever and if you want the

2344
01:36:27,420 --> 01:36:30,000
next package then you pay for it

2345
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,580
so you know so it would be my belief

2346
01:36:32,580 --> 01:36:35,280
that the benefit provided to full-time

2347
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,620
employees would be provided to

2348
01:36:37,620 --> 01:36:38,820
commissioners

2349
01:36:38,820 --> 01:36:41,340
if Commissioners as full-time employees

2350
01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:43,500
do they select the base plan the city

2351
01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:45,840
would pay and generally we're paying

2352
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,400
about eighty four hundred dollars a year

2353
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:48,960
for single coverage

2354
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,940
fifteen thousand dollars for family

2355
01:36:50,940 --> 01:36:52,500
coverage

2356
01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:54,300
if the commission or the full-time

2357
01:36:54,300 --> 01:36:56,580
employee wants to upgrade to a higher

2358
01:36:56,580 --> 01:37:00,120
level HMO or PPO then then the employee

2359
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:01,199
of the commissioner would pay that

2360
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:03,179
difference I didn't know because I just

2361
01:37:03,179 --> 01:37:06,540
paid the whole thing yeah

2362
01:37:06,540 --> 01:37:07,679
okay

2363
01:37:07,679 --> 01:37:09,600
I think I think we can bring it back

2364
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,719
that way okay so we will

2365
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:15,120
um we'll how about we contact the

2366
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,920
Commissioners individually to see what

2367
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,179
their interest is in health insurance

2368
01:37:18,179 --> 01:37:22,020
and then we'll bring some for that okay

2369
01:37:22,020 --> 01:37:23,580
sounds good to everybody

2370
01:37:23,580 --> 01:37:26,580
all right thank you thank you Bill

2371
01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:29,840
uh next one uh where are we at

2372
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,400
discussion at downtown and East Town

2373
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,880
Redevelopment agency board CRA and the

2374
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:43,870
community representative positions

2375
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:48,590
I promise

2376
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,000
okay so this is a continuation of a

2377
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,940
discussion we had at the last Commission

2378
01:37:53,940 --> 01:37:56,219
meeting and there were some additional

2379
01:37:56,219 --> 01:37:57,840
questions that were brought up and so

2380
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,360
hopefully I'll be able to address those

2381
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:01,699
so

2382
01:38:01,699 --> 01:38:05,480
we expanded the CRA board back in 2018

2383
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:08,880
according to the fra 97 percent of CRA

2384
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:10,739
board members are local elected

2385
01:38:10,739 --> 01:38:13,980
officials and in our case uh the the CRA

2386
01:38:13,980 --> 01:38:17,940
board is the five members uh back in

2387
01:38:17,940 --> 01:38:21,900
2018 we added the two Community reps and

2388
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:24,320
that was under Florida statute

2389
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,420
163.357 governing body which consists of

2390
01:38:27,420 --> 01:38:30,000
five members May appoint two additional

2391
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,300
members to act as members of the

2392
01:38:33,300 --> 01:38:36,000
community redevelopment agency and this

2393
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,800
will address one of the questions that

2394
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,560
came up at the last meeting the statute

2395
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,320
actually says the term shall be for four

2396
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,360
years except that the first person

2397
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,400
appointed shell initially served for two

2398
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,639
years and that's to stagger the terms so

2399
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:53,699
our initial appointee was Dan Kelsey Dan

2400
01:38:53,699 --> 01:38:54,800
Kelsey

2401
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,840
then left and so that that two-year term

2402
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,159
has been

2403
01:38:59,159 --> 01:39:00,300
um

2404
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:02,520
we're on four-year terms at this point

2405
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:04,320
and the statute says they have to be

2406
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,480
four-year terms so we don't have the

2407
01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:08,340
ability to to I know one of the

2408
01:39:08,340 --> 01:39:09,780
questions was can we go to two-year

2409
01:39:09,780 --> 01:39:12,480
terms or one-year terms uh we cannot do

2410
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:14,639
that based on the statute

2411
01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:16,679
so

2412
01:39:16,679 --> 01:39:19,679
the um the statute the statute does

2413
01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:21,719
require that the new board members must

2414
01:39:21,719 --> 01:39:24,719
reside or be engaged in business in the

2415
01:39:24,719 --> 01:39:27,120
CRA and it also says that the board

2416
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,120
members are subject to Sunshine Law and

2417
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:31,800
to the code of ethics

2418
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,380
um that all elected officials are

2419
01:39:34,380 --> 01:39:36,179
subject to

2420
01:39:36,179 --> 01:39:38,400
so this is a little bit of an

2421
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,659
explanation there were some questions

2422
01:39:39,659 --> 01:39:42,060
about the language we had in there

2423
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:44,460
so there were some questions as to why

2424
01:39:44,460 --> 01:39:47,159
do we talk about requiring expertise in

2425
01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:49,920
architecture Finance construction land

2426
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,500
use affordable housing sustainability

2427
01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:55,260
and or community redevelopment and when

2428
01:39:55,260 --> 01:39:57,780
I pulled up the research there were two

2429
01:39:57,780 --> 01:40:00,840
bills in 2018 one house bill and one

2430
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,179
Senate Bill the Senate bill was actually

2431
01:40:03,179 --> 01:40:06,659
going to require that we add two members

2432
01:40:06,659 --> 01:40:10,739
the bill didn't pass but it was going to

2433
01:40:10,739 --> 01:40:13,020
not only require that we add two members

2434
01:40:13,020 --> 01:40:15,120
but the two new members couldn't be

2435
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,580
elected officials and they had to have

2436
01:40:17,580 --> 01:40:19,679
expertise in architecture Finance

2437
01:40:19,679 --> 01:40:21,719
construction so what we did was we

2438
01:40:21,719 --> 01:40:23,639
borrowed that language the commission at

2439
01:40:23,639 --> 01:40:25,560
the time said we kind of like that

2440
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,840
language and even though the Senate Bill

2441
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,600
didn't pass let's use that language

2442
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,300
and so that's why that language is in

2443
01:40:33,300 --> 01:40:35,100
there

2444
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:38,040
so items for your consideration

2445
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:41,880
um one thing that was mentioned is what

2446
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,100
if we ask the community reps to give

2447
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:45,960
periodic reports

2448
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,199
to the commission and by that I think

2449
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:51,360
the intent was if you're out there

2450
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:52,920
talking to the community if you're

2451
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,320
attending events come back and report to

2452
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,540
us as to what kind of public input

2453
01:40:57,540 --> 01:40:58,920
you're getting what events have you

2454
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,440
attended what upcoming events are you

2455
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:03,960
planning to attend uh that type of thing

2456
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,199
and then another item

2457
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:08,460
is

2458
01:41:08,460 --> 01:41:10,800
um the the resolution that was passed

2459
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,960
actually encourage professional

2460
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,659
development and continuing education but

2461
01:41:15,659 --> 01:41:18,360
I will be honest I have not encouraged

2462
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,540
that enough so we should be working with

2463
01:41:21,540 --> 01:41:24,000
our two Community reps to talk to them

2464
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,040
about opportunities at Florida

2465
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,739
Redevelopment Association and everybody

2466
01:41:28,739 --> 01:41:31,679
should have gotten in the packet of the

2467
01:41:31,679 --> 01:41:34,440
fra annual meeting is upcoming in

2468
01:41:34,440 --> 01:41:36,360
mid-october and so we should be

2469
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,280
encouraging our community reps to go to

2470
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,800
this and then fra also has a

2471
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,960
certification program where they do

2472
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,100
periodic trainings uh around the state

2473
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:48,600
and so

2474
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,480
um again we in this in the resolution we

2475
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:53,820
have said we encourage professional

2476
01:41:53,820 --> 01:41:55,080
development

2477
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:55,920
um

2478
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,860
and continuing education but I will be

2479
01:41:58,860 --> 01:42:00,659
more aggressive about that moving

2480
01:42:00,659 --> 01:42:02,580
forward and so

2481
01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:05,159
that's all I have at this point

2482
01:42:05,159 --> 01:42:07,440
um so really items to if we can't we

2483
01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:10,020
can't do anything about the terms uh so

2484
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:11,639
the question is do you want to continue

2485
01:42:11,639 --> 01:42:13,800
having these two positions

2486
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:17,100
if so do you want the Reps to do

2487
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:19,619
periodic reporting and I will be more

2488
01:42:19,619 --> 01:42:21,179
aggressive about professional

2489
01:42:21,179 --> 01:42:23,699
development and so I'd be happy to

2490
01:42:23,699 --> 01:42:25,920
listen to any feedback you might have

2491
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:30,830
vice mayor start us off

2492
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,179
I have some concerns about

2493
01:42:33,179 --> 01:42:35,520
um can even continuing

2494
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:39,540
I like that the suggestions about uh I

2495
01:42:39,540 --> 01:42:41,219
feel like there needs to be a better

2496
01:42:41,219 --> 01:42:42,440
connection

2497
01:42:42,440 --> 01:42:44,219
if they're going to be the community

2498
01:42:44,219 --> 01:42:46,560
reps they come they sit and they just

2499
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,320
listen to us and we get nothing back so

2500
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,600
I I like that idea that they come back

2501
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,340
we know that they're interacting with

2502
01:42:53,340 --> 01:42:55,440
the community we know that they're

2503
01:42:55,440 --> 01:42:57,119
getting

2504
01:42:57,119 --> 01:42:58,920
feedback from the community and they

2505
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,540
bring back to us I guess I'd like to see

2506
01:43:00,540 --> 01:43:04,679
that happen I really really encourage

2507
01:43:04,679 --> 01:43:06,179
um the

2508
01:43:06,179 --> 01:43:08,820
education part of it I think that's very

2509
01:43:08,820 --> 01:43:10,639
important

2510
01:43:10,639 --> 01:43:12,659
my concern is

2511
01:43:12,659 --> 01:43:15,119
the the qualifications when you go back

2512
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:16,800
to it the land use

2513
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:17,600
um

2514
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,580
knowing these things

2515
01:43:20,580 --> 01:43:24,440
um that seems like it's limits

2516
01:43:24,440 --> 01:43:28,380
the participation of people having these

2517
01:43:28,380 --> 01:43:31,020
kinds of qualifications

2518
01:43:31,020 --> 01:43:33,119
um I I think it would be wonderful if we

2519
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:35,400
could find someone to do that but I do

2520
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,260
think it's important that

2521
01:43:37,260 --> 01:43:39,360
um they have a

2522
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,360
they were asking about voting that isn't

2523
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,239
as much of an issue to me as their

2524
01:43:45,239 --> 01:43:47,520
being connected to the community and

2525
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,920
being able to feedback give us some

2526
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:54,719
information and interact with us on that note so that's more important to

2527
01:43:54,719 --> 01:43:56,580
me than whether or not they can vote but

2528
01:43:56,580 --> 01:43:58,080
if they couldn't vote and it's nothing

2529
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,119
other than the way we've been doing it I

2530
01:44:00,119 --> 01:44:02,520
would say demolished get rid of it but

2531
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,860
if we add all these other things I think

2532
01:44:04,860 --> 01:44:06,300
it's important and I think it'll create

2533
01:44:06,300 --> 01:44:08,040
a better

2534
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,040
um kind of position if we did if we do

2535
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,980
those things okay so if we add the

2536
01:44:13,980 --> 01:44:16,340
education ring and the other thing

2537
01:44:16,340 --> 01:44:18,719
reporting back you're good with going

2538
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:21,179
ahead and keeping the two seats yes on

2539
01:44:21,179 --> 01:44:24,540
the CRA yes my question is how do they

2540
01:44:24,540 --> 01:44:27,420
apply and then they can show that they

2541
01:44:27,420 --> 01:44:29,280
have expertise in these areas and then

2542
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:30,840
they come back to us and we choose them

2543
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,780
that's the process okay

2544
01:44:33,780 --> 01:44:35,940
it's it's similar to every other board

2545
01:44:35,940 --> 01:44:38,639
in commission we have so there's a

2546
01:44:38,639 --> 01:44:40,320
standard application and they would fill

2547
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,890
that out

2548
01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:46,380
really I

2549
01:44:46,380 --> 01:44:49,080
you know I think we should keep them uh

2550
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,940
I think that they should stay on we well

2551
01:44:50,940 --> 01:44:53,760
we should uh you know keep the two uh

2552
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,600
Community uh members okay I think to

2553
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,000
do a way way with them is a step back

2554
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,280
for us okay uh

2555
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:07,080
the one thing I'm not crazy about is

2556
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,300
you know this verbiage architecture

2557
01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:11,880
Finance construction you know we want

2558
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,400
people that live here that that love

2559
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,280
this city and they all may not have

2560
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,380
and I'm sure the majority of the people

2561
01:45:19,380 --> 01:45:21,780
that may apply you know won't have any

2562
01:45:21,780 --> 01:45:23,280
of that stuff so I don't know what

2563
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:24,980
previous commissions

2564
01:45:24,980 --> 01:45:28,320
uh thought when they wanted to include

2565
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:29,699
that

2566
01:45:29,699 --> 01:45:31,860
um but I don't want to use that as a way

2567
01:45:31,860 --> 01:45:34,619
to kind of weed people out I think love

2568
01:45:34,619 --> 01:45:35,719
of community

2569
01:45:35,719 --> 01:45:38,400
uh you know wanting to see Eustis grow

2570
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,739
is is probably a little bit more

2571
01:45:40,739 --> 01:45:43,500
important than some of this and I agree

2572
01:45:43,500 --> 01:45:45,679
we do need to have that feedback

2573
01:45:45,679 --> 01:45:48,780
I think that would be great to him have

2574
01:45:48,780 --> 01:45:50,280
them come in and

2575
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,040
you know and give us that feedback

2576
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:54,900
um you know what communities think and

2577
01:45:54,900 --> 01:45:56,520
what the communities say all right

2578
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,280
sounds good I think they would feel good

2579
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,739
about being a part of it when they can

2580
01:46:01,739 --> 01:46:04,619
give something back it helps them feel

2581
01:46:04,619 --> 01:46:06,540
like they're a part of the sport yes

2582
01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:07,380
ma'am

2583
01:46:07,380 --> 01:46:10,790
Karen

2584
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,420
um I am a proponent of keeping the people

2585
01:46:15,420 --> 01:46:19,320
okay I I do understand that the verbiage

2586
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:20,400
does

2587
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,619
put most of us out heck I think we all

2588
01:46:22,619 --> 01:46:25,020
need to take the class I mean it

2589
01:46:25,020 --> 01:46:28,080
wouldn't hurt any of us to be involved

2590
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:34,490
in that but um

2591
01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:39,719
I'm still in favor of keeping the two Representatives

2592
01:46:39,719 --> 01:46:41,340
Dan

2593
01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:43,500
um Yes actually I did sign up for the

2594
01:46:43,500 --> 01:46:46,619
class okay that week so I am signed up I

2595
01:46:46,619 --> 01:46:48,420
would like to see the word expertise

2596
01:46:48,420 --> 01:46:50,760
removed I don't think I think expertise

2597
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:51,960
kind of

2598
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:53,580
um you know and we could add some

2599
01:46:53,580 --> 01:46:56,280
language in there as well but I think

2600
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,500
these things a lot of them will happen

2601
01:47:00,500 --> 01:47:03,540
when they get educated and when they

2602
01:47:03,540 --> 01:47:06,420
attend the classes okay so I think that

2603
01:47:06,420 --> 01:47:08,940
problem will solve itself but I also do

2604
01:47:08,940 --> 01:47:10,980
like you know love of community you know

2605
01:47:10,980 --> 01:47:13,800
things of the like however and I totally

2606
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,440
agree with Emily that

2607
01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:18,900
you've got to come with something you

2608
01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:21,719
have to come and and I want I want to

2609
01:47:21,719 --> 01:47:25,980
see engagement in east and west

2610
01:47:25,980 --> 01:47:28,020
you just can't just because you're from

2611
01:47:28,020 --> 01:47:29,400
Easter just because you're from West

2612
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,500
doesn't mean we separate I don't like

2613
01:47:31,500 --> 01:47:35,100
that separation go to everything

2614
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:36,900
just go to everything because how can

2615
01:47:36,900 --> 01:47:38,280
you be knowledgeable about something

2616
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,920
that we do maybe with George fast or

2617
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,080
something that we're doing maybe

2618
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,080
downtown if you're not involved in it or

2619
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,300
you're not get the education to get the

2620
01:47:48,300 --> 01:47:51,060
background in it I I want to see them

2621
01:47:51,060 --> 01:47:54,239
involved in in both sides okay because

2622
01:47:54,239 --> 01:47:58,619
we are one Eustis and so I I want that

2623
01:47:58,619 --> 01:47:59,340
um

2624
01:47:59,340 --> 01:48:01,619
I want that inclusive like that we need

2625
01:48:01,619 --> 01:48:04,920
more information you know we need to see

2626
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,500
you know what what do you see you know

2627
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,300
so you don't you're right and they don't

2628
01:48:09,300 --> 01:48:10,860
have a vote and I I truly believe that

2629
01:48:10,860 --> 01:48:12,420
needs to come from an elected official I

2630
01:48:12,420 --> 01:48:15,000
do however it doesn't mean that what you

2631
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:16,440
say isn't important but you've got to

2632
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:17,820
come with us with something other than

2633
01:48:17,820 --> 01:48:19,679
just coming and sitting up here we've

2634
01:48:19,679 --> 01:48:21,840
got to have some more interaction

2635
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,820
so I'm a pronoun for keeping it but we

2636
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:25,679
just we've got to tweak it a little bit

2637
01:48:25,679 --> 01:48:28,739
I I'm in favor of keeping it as well

2638
01:48:28,739 --> 01:48:31,440
um I I believe that the education part

2639
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:33,960
is very important whether we're engaging

2640
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,000
Tom in the the format that you've got

2641
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,980
before you or for what the Florida

2642
01:48:37,980 --> 01:48:40,739
League of cities offers as well yes

2643
01:48:40,739 --> 01:48:43,560
um so um and you know we sit here we say

2644
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,659
we want Community involvement but yet we

2645
01:48:45,659 --> 01:48:47,460
put these two seats on a chopping block

2646
01:48:47,460 --> 01:48:50,639
it's not fair to the community so we

2647
01:48:50,639 --> 01:48:53,880
need to keep it okay okay a couple of

2648
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:54,719
things

2649
01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:57,179
um if we do want to modify the language

2650
01:48:57,179 --> 01:48:59,639
It Is by we did approve it by resolution

2651
01:48:59,639 --> 01:49:01,739
so I will have to bring you back a

2652
01:49:01,739 --> 01:49:04,679
modified resolution if you'd like uh I

2653
01:49:04,679 --> 01:49:07,080
can look at that what would you do you

2654
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,300
want to just remove the word expertise

2655
01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:11,699
and then put something in there or do

2656
01:49:11,699 --> 01:49:14,040
you want to remove that entire section

2657
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,860
well this says education or experience

2658
01:49:16,860 --> 01:49:19,560
does this the advertisement it doesn't

2659
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,360
say expertise

2660
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,179
so it depends on what the resolution is

2661
01:49:24,179 --> 01:49:26,639
that the word expertise may have been in

2662
01:49:26,639 --> 01:49:28,380
the original Senate bill I think that's

2663
01:49:28,380 --> 01:49:31,260
right and so yeah the resolution may

2664
01:49:31,260 --> 01:49:34,679
have modified yeah

2665
01:49:34,679 --> 01:49:37,619
just take a look at it okay I will bring

2666
01:49:37,619 --> 01:49:39,780
it back that way and maybe Community

2667
01:49:39,780 --> 01:49:50,149
involvement sure

2668
01:49:50,159 --> 01:49:52,380
and then the final thing

2669
01:49:52,380 --> 01:49:55,080
um commissioner Cobb mentioned um so

2670
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:56,460
there's

2671
01:49:56,460 --> 01:49:57,239
um

2672
01:49:57,239 --> 01:49:59,280
the Florida Redevelopment association

2673
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:01,860
annual conference is October 12th to the

2674
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:04,739
14th it's in Daytona uh that first day

2675
01:50:04,739 --> 01:50:06,600
the 12th there is

2676
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,420
um a session called CRA board training

2677
01:50:09,420 --> 01:50:13,980
it's basically CRA basic CRA 101

2678
01:50:13,980 --> 01:50:16,739
um and uh so Al and I are going for the

2679
01:50:16,739 --> 01:50:19,679
entire conference but that CRA board

2680
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:21,659
training might be the most valuable

2681
01:50:21,659 --> 01:50:24,600
session and so there is still an

2682
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,480
opportunity to sign up for that so if

2683
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,040
you would like to sign up for that we

2684
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,340
can get everybody signed up and we can

2685
01:50:32,340 --> 01:50:34,500
take care of that for you

2686
01:50:34,500 --> 01:50:36,960
we have Emo the same week are you going

2687
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:40,739
to emo no one in uh no Tampa okay

2688
01:50:40,739 --> 01:50:42,540
because I'm just traveling from Daytona

2689
01:50:42,540 --> 01:50:44,820
and then I'll do you know the one that

2690
01:50:44,820 --> 01:50:47,219
the the meaning that he's talking about

2691
01:50:47,219 --> 01:50:49,380
and then a couple of the classes and the

2692
01:50:49,380 --> 01:50:51,600
next day then you leave then I'll go to

2693
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:55,790
Tampa

2694
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:57,780
so we'll reach out to each commissioner

2695
01:50:57,780 --> 01:50:59,520
individually and you can let us know do

2696
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,800
you want to do just the the CRA board

2697
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,199
training or the entire event yeah and uh

2698
01:51:04,199 --> 01:51:06,780
we'll get it squared away okay Christine

2699
01:51:06,780 --> 01:51:09,360
would you please make sure that if more

2700
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,699
than one of them are going you notify it

2701
01:51:11,699 --> 01:51:15,000
so that we don't get the Sunshine Law

2702
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,219
catch us okay

2703
01:51:17,219 --> 01:51:19,460
just noticed it

2704
01:51:19,460 --> 01:51:21,719
so all right

2705
01:51:21,719 --> 01:51:24,000
um we're going to take a quick five

2706
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,800
minute break and then we'll come back

2707
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,780
and we will do the regulations on

2708
01:51:27,780 --> 01:51:30,060
backyard chickens and finish our meeting

2709
01:51:30,060 --> 01:57:03,010
up so five minute break this boat

2710
01:57:03,020 --> 01:57:05,159
welcome back everyone we're going to

2711
01:57:05,159 --> 01:57:06,840
move down down to regulations relating

2712
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,600
uh to Backyard chickens who wants to

2713
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:11,040
start Tom you want to start or we go

2714
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,320
turn it over to Mike sure I'll uh just

2715
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,239
kind of open with

2716
01:57:15,239 --> 01:57:17,460
um this is um something that I was going

2717
01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:19,199
to bring up under reports but it might

2718
01:57:19,199 --> 01:57:22,560
be relevant to this conversation

2719
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,780
um I think we've had several

2720
01:57:24,780 --> 01:57:27,300
Commissioners talk about having a

2721
01:57:27,300 --> 01:57:31,820
workshop on density and future land use

2722
01:57:31,820 --> 01:57:35,219
and kind of looking at some items in our

2723
01:57:35,219 --> 01:57:37,099
comprehensive plan

2724
01:57:37,099 --> 01:57:38,699
and

2725
01:57:38,699 --> 01:57:42,420
um that's probably not a hour before a

2726
01:57:42,420 --> 01:57:43,980
normal Commission meeting type of

2727
01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:48,360
workshop and so I was looking at a

2728
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:51,719
Saturday Workshop

2729
01:57:51,719 --> 01:57:54,420
and I I know that's painful but that's

2730
01:57:54,420 --> 01:57:55,980
probably the kind of time we're gonna

2731
01:57:55,980 --> 01:57:57,659
need to talk

2732
01:57:57,659 --> 01:57:59,520
um I'd like to do it sooner rather than

2733
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,639
later I don't know

2734
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:03,420
um

2735
01:58:03,420 --> 01:58:05,580
I've talked to a couple of Commissioners

2736
01:58:05,580 --> 01:58:08,639
about Saturday October 8th

2737
01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:10,679
uh does

2738
01:58:10,679 --> 01:58:12,659
um do we mind looking at and the reason

2739
01:58:12,659 --> 01:58:15,540
I'm bringing this up is part of this

2740
01:58:15,540 --> 01:58:18,659
conversation might be that uh backyard

2741
01:58:18,659 --> 01:58:21,659
foul are appropriate in certain land use

2742
01:58:21,659 --> 01:58:25,560
categories and so maybe it's um part of

2743
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,560
the discussion is uh where is this

2744
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:30,179
appropriate and in what land use

2745
01:58:30,179 --> 01:58:33,780
categories and so this might be

2746
01:58:33,780 --> 01:58:35,639
I think it's reasonable to have some

2747
01:58:35,639 --> 01:58:38,060
discussion this evening about about this

2748
01:58:38,060 --> 01:58:41,219
but I also think that this might be a

2749
01:58:41,219 --> 01:58:43,739
larger land use discussion and we can do

2750
01:58:43,739 --> 01:58:47,340
that on October 8th if the commission

2751
01:58:47,340 --> 01:58:49,980
is available I'm okay I'm not I'm

2752
01:58:49,980 --> 01:58:52,260
available I'm not

2753
01:58:52,260 --> 01:58:54,960
okay what about October 1st

2754
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:59,940
no I'm not I'm in Baltimore on the 8th

2755
01:58:59,940 --> 01:59:02,340
I'm not available on the 15th but I am

2756
01:59:02,340 --> 01:59:04,880
on the 22nd and I'm not

2757
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,199
wait a minute that's the Fall Festival

2758
01:59:07,199 --> 01:59:12,830
on 22nd night the 22nd is Fall Festival

2759
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:14,580
could we do it on a Monday or Tuesday

2760
01:59:14,580 --> 01:59:16,619
night do you think how much time do you

2761
01:59:16,619 --> 01:59:17,940
think we need

2762
01:59:17,940 --> 01:59:20,820
um we probably need two to three hours I

2763
01:59:20,820 --> 01:59:22,940
would think

2764
01:59:22,940 --> 01:59:25,920
we could I mean if we were to if we were

2765
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,199
to do it on a weeknight and start at say

2766
01:59:28,199 --> 01:59:31,619
4 P.M maybe we did that one of our

2767
01:59:31,619 --> 01:59:33,780
recent meetings we did that was it a

2768
01:59:33,780 --> 01:59:35,159
budget Workshop

2769
01:59:35,159 --> 01:59:37,340
uh where we started early on a weekday

2770
01:59:37,340 --> 01:59:40,080
I'd rather do it during the weekdays my

2771
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:41,340
weekends are

2772
01:59:41,340 --> 01:59:45,530
slammed

2773
01:59:45,540 --> 01:59:48,360
by October our regular Thursdays or six

2774
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:49,860
in the 20th what about the third of

2775
01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:52,080
October on a Monday I'm good

2776
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:55,139
the third of October

2777
01:59:55,139 --> 02:00:00,179
I'm good October 3rd October 3rd

2778
02:00:00,179 --> 02:00:02,219
I'd rather do it sooner than later yeah

2779
02:00:02,219 --> 02:00:05,159
I can do October 3rd

2780
02:00:05,159 --> 02:00:09,360
is this a and I let me ask Mike and Jeff

2781
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,580
and Heather uh there's going to be some

2782
02:00:11,580 --> 02:00:13,800
prep work that goes into this do we

2783
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:15,480
think we can pull together the

2784
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:17,699
information we need by October by Monday

2785
02:00:17,699 --> 02:00:19,320
October 3rd

2786
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:21,190
it's a cake they can do it

2787
02:00:21,190 --> 02:00:24,420
[Laughter]

2788
02:00:24,420 --> 02:00:26,159
laughs

2789
02:00:26,159 --> 02:00:27,719
okay

2790
02:00:27,719 --> 02:00:31,080
um we want to start earlier

2791
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:32,480
I think

2792
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:35,280
if you woke that I was wondering more

2793
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:37,460
about you you don't really care

2794
02:00:37,460 --> 02:00:40,699
I'm in short-termers mode at work so

2795
02:00:40,699 --> 02:00:42,960
she's retired first of the year okay

2796
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,540
yeah you don't care are we gonna do a

2797
02:00:45,540 --> 02:00:47,590
breakfast oh no

2798
02:00:47,590 --> 02:00:50,179
[Laughter]

2799
02:00:50,179 --> 02:00:52,980
you want to start at some 6 30 a.m

2800
02:00:52,980 --> 02:00:54,239
breakfast all right why don't you start

2801
02:00:54,239 --> 02:00:56,219
doing my first conference call at 5

2802
02:00:56,219 --> 02:00:59,149
30 every time

2803
02:00:59,159 --> 02:01:01,920
okay uh why don't we do three o'clock on

2804
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:04,739
the third if that works for staff

2805
02:01:04,739 --> 02:01:07,550
you guys good

2806
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:10,080
um I it it looks like that will work on

2807
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:12,119
the calendar

2808
02:01:12,119 --> 02:01:17,460
you all right okay and if you'll remember when we

2809
02:01:17,460 --> 02:01:19,800
brought this up the last time talking

2810
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:23,699
about the consideration of chickens I

2811
02:01:23,699 --> 02:01:27,300
said there are places that I am not

2812
02:01:27,300 --> 02:01:30,000
opposed to chickens and there are places

2813
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,880
that I am opposed to them I think having

2814
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,400
this conversation

2815
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,800
um during this Workshop is where this

2816
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,739
conversation needs to take place

2817
02:01:40,739 --> 02:01:42,840
um I think that Mike's presentation I've

2818
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:45,659
read through parts of it and I think

2819
02:01:45,659 --> 02:01:48,179
that um that that needs to be a part of

2820
02:01:48,179 --> 02:01:49,619
what we looked at during this

2821
02:01:49,619 --> 02:01:51,840
presentation to be honest with you I

2822
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:53,940
agree and I know you all made a special

2823
02:01:53,940 --> 02:01:55,800
trip here tonight you've sat here all

2824
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:59,099
night with us but I I did not know that

2825
02:01:59,099 --> 02:02:00,719
this is the way we were going to try to

2826
02:02:00,719 --> 02:02:02,520
do this but I think it works out better

2827
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:04,860
and I think it's better for the citizens

2828
02:02:04,860 --> 02:02:06,420
of Eustis

2829
02:02:06,420 --> 02:02:07,320
um

2830
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:09,420
and there's a lot of reasons why we need

2831
02:02:09,420 --> 02:02:13,619
to do this land use stuff as we grow we

2832
02:02:13,619 --> 02:02:15,360
want to be fair to the citizens to the

2833
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:18,000
east of Eustis as we look at annexations

2834
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:21,000
and things like that that we're making

2835
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:23,820
the right decisions to be good neighbors

2836
02:02:23,820 --> 02:02:26,280
and to make it to where people want to

2837
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:29,820
Annex into the City and I I just think

2838
02:02:29,820 --> 02:02:32,580
this is the perfect time for this so

2839
02:02:32,580 --> 02:02:35,340
um if it's okay I think we even delay

2840
02:02:35,340 --> 02:02:38,159
this presentation to us part of this

2841
02:02:38,159 --> 02:02:41,040
meeting but that's up to this commission

2842
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:42,000
I agree

2843
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,179
so y'all are okay you okay um Karen you

2844
02:02:45,179 --> 02:02:46,380
okay

2845
02:02:46,380 --> 02:02:48,540
um so I'm Mike I'm sorry I know you

2846
02:02:48,540 --> 02:02:50,159
stayed here too all dressed up tonight

2847
02:02:50,159 --> 02:02:53,760
with a time with a tie and everything

2848
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,099
but let's let's go ahead and make this

2849
02:02:56,099 --> 02:02:59,099
part of our presentation on October

2850
02:02:59,099 --> 02:03:02,699
uh for okay okay yes all right all right

2851
02:03:02,699 --> 02:03:06,119
I want to say kudos to Mike and his crew

2852
02:03:06,119 --> 02:03:09,239
that put this together this was so nice

2853
02:03:09,239 --> 02:03:13,080
it was easy to read yes and it was

2854
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:14,040
um

2855
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:15,719
I thought it was an excellent

2856
02:03:15,719 --> 02:03:19,080
presentation compiled in a few pages so

2857
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,209
okay

2858
02:03:23,219 --> 02:03:28,490
pages

2859
02:03:28,500 --> 02:03:34,910
so don't complain I took a nap so

2860
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:37,020
um if you won't get a copy of what we're

2861
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:39,830
looking at

2862
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:42,840
this so um that's the regular City

2863
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,480
commission talk about this dude can you

2864
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:50,450
share that with with these folks

2865
02:03:50,460 --> 02:03:52,320
here

2866
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,320
so due to Ada accessibility yes this was

2867
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,080
not included online in the packet it was

2868
02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:59,940
something that was emailed it is

2869
02:03:59,940 --> 02:04:02,760
definitely available to the public

2870
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:04,679
um we just wasn't something that we put

2871
02:04:04,679 --> 02:04:06,000
up online

2872
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:13,850
we'll get you a copy also

2873
02:04:13,860 --> 02:04:16,260
if anybody wants any of the presentation

2874
02:04:16,260 --> 02:04:19,260
like Tom said because of ADA regulations

2875
02:04:19,260 --> 02:04:21,860
we're not able to put some things online

2876
02:04:21,860 --> 02:04:25,800
but if you'll contact the city manager's

2877
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:29,599
office we can email that full 22 page

2878
02:04:29,599 --> 02:04:32,460
presentation to you if you want it this

2879
02:04:32,460 --> 02:04:34,920
is a great uh outline of really

2880
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,440
everything kind of condensed though okay

2881
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:40,619
that staff put together but we'll have a

2882
02:04:40,619 --> 02:04:43,080
full conversation after next at that at

2883
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:44,639
that special meeting

2884
02:04:44,639 --> 02:04:48,300
everybody good all right let's move on

2885
02:04:48,300 --> 02:04:51,540
to Future agenda items um

2886
02:04:51,540 --> 02:04:54,020
help me uh

2887
02:04:54,020 --> 02:04:57,060
you're good okay okay Karen nothing

2888
02:04:57,060 --> 02:04:59,400
thank you yeah I'm good really future

2889
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:06,290
agenda I'm good anything to report Karen

2890
02:05:06,300 --> 02:05:08,580
somewhere but

2891
02:05:08,580 --> 02:05:11,699
it's going yeah man anything to report

2892
02:05:11,699 --> 02:05:16,440
for him yes sir um uh this past Sunday

2893
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:17,040
um

2894
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:20,099
Atwood Family Farms out in the blueberry

2895
02:05:20,099 --> 02:05:23,280
farm out in Eustis had a another ribbon

2896
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:24,960
cutting if you will and a name change to

2897
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:27,119
Amber Brook Farms and so the mayor and I

2898
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:30,179
attended that and it was just they were

2899
02:05:30,179 --> 02:05:33,960
really really we were just really excited that they

2900
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:36,960
invited us you know and they were glad

2901
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,020
to have us so it was a nice turnout

2902
02:05:39,020 --> 02:05:41,340
they've done a lot out to that property

2903
02:05:41,340 --> 02:05:43,320
I remember when it used to be the old

2904
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:46,260
Alger property and they filmed Jeepers

2905
02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:49,020
Creepers Scary Movie out there so

2906
02:05:49,020 --> 02:05:50,760
they've done a lot of work so if you get

2907
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:52,380
a chance go out there they're the nicest

2908
02:05:52,380 --> 02:05:54,119
people you could ever want to meet the

2909
02:05:54,119 --> 02:05:56,219
Atwoods in the hills are just really

2910
02:05:56,219 --> 02:05:58,080
super folks so if you get a chance go on

2911
02:05:58,080 --> 02:05:59,400
out

2912
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,320
um

2913
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:05,280
we had as the mayor had talked before we

2914
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:08,239
had had a meeting we all did with fdot

2915
02:06:08,239 --> 02:06:10,320
regarding us getting a little bit of

2916
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,900
attention at the Clover out there at

2917
02:06:12,900 --> 02:06:14,820
441-19

2918
02:06:14,820 --> 02:06:17,060
and kind of up and down

2919
02:06:17,060 --> 02:06:20,040
in Eustis

2920
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:22,380
probably a week later

2921
02:06:22,380 --> 02:06:25,139
they came in mode it came in mode it is

2922
02:06:25,139 --> 02:06:26,940
it completely finished no because that's

2923
02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:28,800
one heck of a project but at least it's

2924
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:32,639
mode you can actually see the sidewalk I didn't remember sidewalk being there

2925
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:34,860
so but they have done a good job so

2926
02:06:34,860 --> 02:06:36,239
we're very very thankful

2927
02:06:36,239 --> 02:06:38,820
um you know that commissioner trunow had

2928
02:06:38,820 --> 02:06:40,619
set all that up for us took three months

2929
02:06:40,619 --> 02:06:42,900
to get the meeting but it was just a

2930
02:06:42,900 --> 02:06:46,199
really Pleasant meeting and we're very happy that giving us a little bit

2931
02:06:46,199 --> 02:06:47,760
of attention now when we're on the radar

2932
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:51,060
so um things are getting cleaned up if

2933
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:53,280
you will in Eustis and I just had one

2934
02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:55,820
question for Papa I mean Rick

2935
02:06:55,820 --> 02:07:00,290
I'm sorry

2936
02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:03,890
foreign

2937
02:07:03,900 --> 02:07:07,990
[Music]

2938
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,320
no I just wondered where we were with

2939
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:12,840
the islands an island update

2940
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:14,960
it's already stuck

2941
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:18,480
puppy so we're

2942
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:20,280
we need to get the plant the revised

2943
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:23,760
plans I kinda have not pushed Oh I

2944
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:25,020
thought you had gone with your mom I

2945
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:26,219
thought you got hold around

2946
02:07:26,219 --> 02:07:28,619
um we need to pick out the material

2947
02:07:28,619 --> 02:07:30,719
which we've got the list to be able to

2948
02:07:30,719 --> 02:07:33,980
pick okay but yeah I need to get him

2949
02:07:33,980 --> 02:07:36,960
kind of trued up but I'll do that I'll

2950
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:39,300
talk to him and see where it is yep

2951
02:07:39,300 --> 02:07:41,880
thank you all righty got it while Rick

2952
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:44,460
is at the podium everyone we will be

2953
02:07:44,460 --> 02:07:47,340
having a update back on the cemetery

2954
02:07:47,340 --> 02:07:49,739
we've talked about it

2955
02:07:49,739 --> 02:07:51,900
um there was just a little bit of a

2956
02:07:51,900 --> 02:07:53,760
challenge the way that things have been

2957
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:57,000
written uh whether we go resolution

2958
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:58,619
for okay

2959
02:07:58,619 --> 02:08:01,400
the other way ordinance

2960
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:04,020
that's what we're working on once that's

2961
02:08:04,020 --> 02:08:05,400
done that'll be back in front of the

2962
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,139
commission okay

2963
02:08:07,139 --> 02:08:09,300
all right thank you Rick is that it man

2964
02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:11,699
that's it really okay

2965
02:08:11,699 --> 02:08:12,960
um

2966
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:20,280
The Gauntlet has been oh boy now again

2967
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:22,199
um I got the phone call no you got it

2968
02:08:22,199 --> 02:08:24,780
good yeah good I gave her your number

2969
02:08:24,780 --> 02:08:26,460
okay

2970
02:08:26,460 --> 02:08:30,380
um Lake cares they have their the annual

2971
02:08:30,380 --> 02:08:35,760
uh Christmas Gala and

2972
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,880
um Tavares and Mount Dora have have

2973
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,139
challenged

2974
02:08:40,139 --> 02:08:42,540
this Commission

2975
02:08:42,540 --> 02:08:47,219
uh to do the Christmas tree yes now the

2976
02:08:47,219 --> 02:08:50,040
thing this year commissioner Carr

2977
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:54,119
is that they will provide the tree

2978
02:08:54,119 --> 02:08:57,179
and I hear it's a Charlie Brown tree so

2979
02:08:57,179 --> 02:08:59,760
I can make Walmart look good okay well

2980
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,400
good because you got to do it

2981
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:03,060
um

2982
02:09:03,060 --> 02:09:05,040
I got you and I've talked to them about

2983
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:08,580
uh just judging the cities as opposed to

2984
02:09:08,580 --> 02:09:11,099
okay us against so do we get a big tree

2985
02:09:11,099 --> 02:09:13,139
that we got psyched out the last time we

2986
02:09:13,139 --> 02:09:15,239
were told four foot tree and I get there

2987
02:09:15,239 --> 02:09:16,800
and everyone's got these eight foot

2988
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:18,960
trees yeah they're trying to get at

2989
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,179
least for us the smaller ones okay I'll

2990
02:09:21,179 --> 02:09:22,739
we'll do the big I'll do the big one as

2991
02:09:22,739 --> 02:09:26,390
well but I just want to level playing

2992
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:28,739
and uh

2993
02:09:28,739 --> 02:09:30,780
grant writers

2994
02:09:30,780 --> 02:09:33,179
uh I spent some time with some friends

2995
02:09:33,179 --> 02:09:35,580
over the last week and a half and

2996
02:09:35,580 --> 02:09:38,280
they're out in uh

2997
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:40,080
Louisiana

2998
02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:43,080
and they were talking about the

2999
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:46,500
importance of Grant riders for them and

3000
02:09:46,500 --> 02:09:48,000
I'd like to know how things are going

3001
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:50,760
with us and if it's a compensation thing

3002
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:53,520
because grant writers are so important

3003
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:56,639
too what we want to do and how we want

3004
02:09:56,639 --> 02:09:57,900
to grow

3005
02:09:57,900 --> 02:10:00,480
do we need to

3006
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:05,149
look at maybe raising that

3007
02:10:05,159 --> 02:10:08,820
sure so we have the position advertised

3008
02:10:08,820 --> 02:10:10,920
one thing that has changed is we brought

3009
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:14,340
Al on board and Al has some experience

3010
02:10:14,340 --> 02:10:16,139
and actually

3011
02:10:16,139 --> 02:10:19,080
um working with representative trunow's

3012
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:22,080
office we submitted uh two

3013
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:25,199
Appropriations grants and although

3014
02:10:25,199 --> 02:10:27,599
nothing is official I think one of those

3015
02:10:27,599 --> 02:10:30,260
projects is likely to get some funding

3016
02:10:30,260 --> 02:10:33,540
so that's and the the Al wrote those

3017
02:10:33,540 --> 02:10:38,659
requests we also have a grant into

3018
02:10:38,659 --> 02:10:42,000
dceo related to some utility relocations

3019
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,239
related to the Waterman site

3020
02:10:44,239 --> 02:10:47,639
and so I

3021
02:10:47,639 --> 02:10:50,940
we've had discussions with with Al

3022
02:10:50,940 --> 02:10:53,400
related to the grant writing position is

3023
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:55,320
that a position at one point that

3024
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:57,840
position might have reported directly to

3025
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:00,060
me but it might be appropriate for that

3026
02:11:00,060 --> 02:11:02,940
person to report to Al uh we can take a

3027
02:11:02,940 --> 02:11:04,920
look it's probably we need to take a

3028
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,920
look at the job description I know we

3029
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,920
submitted it to our HR consultant for

3030
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:13,619
scoring so that the HR consultant could

3031
02:11:13,619 --> 02:11:16,739
give us a range where maybe the pay was

3032
02:11:16,739 --> 02:11:19,320
appropriate we could take a look at that

3033
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:20,639
again

3034
02:11:20,639 --> 02:11:23,940
um I think the the short answer to your

3035
02:11:23,940 --> 02:11:26,040
question is I think we have more grant

3036
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:27,960
writing expertise on staff than we did

3037
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:30,239
before uh but we need to ramp that up

3038
02:11:30,239 --> 02:11:32,520
and we know that and so we'll we'll take

3039
02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:35,639
another look at it yeah and I and I this

3040
02:11:35,639 --> 02:11:41,159
is just me I don't want Al to get yeah no I I understand if we get any

3041
02:11:41,159 --> 02:11:43,440
application at all when have you

3042
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:46,219
received any applications

3043
02:11:46,219 --> 02:11:57,109
okay any qualified

3044
02:11:57,119 --> 02:11:59,219
we'll take another look at it okay we

3045
02:11:59,219 --> 02:12:01,800
don't want to revisit looking at a

3046
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:04,199
company that does

3047
02:12:04,199 --> 02:12:07,020
I mean you look at the cost of

3048
02:12:07,020 --> 02:12:10,619
individual versus if you could pay a

3049
02:12:10,619 --> 02:12:13,440
company for specific projects I don't

3050
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:15,239
know yeah the the

3051
02:12:15,239 --> 02:12:18,119
um there are we for example Palmetto

3052
02:12:18,119 --> 02:12:22,199
Plaza uh we had a grant consultant of

3053
02:12:22,199 --> 02:12:24,540
write that Grant and then manage that

3054
02:12:24,540 --> 02:12:27,960
grant for us and they secured us 750 000

3055
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:31,320
in cdbg small cities

3056
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:33,480
but they are not experts in every type

3057
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:35,880
of grant you know there are uh Public

3058
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:38,040
Safety grants police grants fire grants

3059
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:39,960
and so

3060
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:43,340
um we can get external consultant help

3061
02:12:43,340 --> 02:12:46,860
but we would have to get help from many

3062
02:12:46,860 --> 02:12:48,659
sectors right

3063
02:12:48,659 --> 02:12:50,579
um and so there are not a lot of firms

3064
02:12:50,579 --> 02:12:53,099
out there that just write all kinds of

3065
02:12:53,099 --> 02:12:55,560
Grants and so we'd have to we've looked

3066
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:56,880
at that

3067
02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:58,980
um but again they're usually specific to

3068
02:12:58,980 --> 02:13:01,560
certain types of Grants or sectors so

3069
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:04,619
yeah I look at that as being with us

3070
02:13:04,619 --> 02:13:06,719
trying to grow the way that we want to

3071
02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:08,159
grow that's being one of the most

3072
02:13:08,159 --> 02:13:10,679
important things that we leave to yep we

3073
02:13:10,679 --> 02:13:13,139
need to do yeah we will um definitely

3074
02:13:13,139 --> 02:13:15,239
take another look at that see what we

3075
02:13:15,239 --> 02:13:17,900
can do to get more interest

3076
02:13:17,900 --> 02:13:19,940
anything else

3077
02:13:19,940 --> 02:13:22,020
nope that's it

3078
02:13:22,020 --> 02:13:25,560
oh I'm sorry now here's one thing uh the

3079
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:28,500
15th which is one of the reasons why one

3080
02:13:28,500 --> 02:13:31,380
of my societies is booked

3081
02:13:31,380 --> 02:13:32,960
um

3082
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:36,780
October I've scheduled

3083
02:13:36,780 --> 02:13:38,460
uh

3084
02:13:38,460 --> 02:13:42,300
a group to to come and help me paint the

3085
02:13:42,300 --> 02:13:44,940
concession stands so high school into

3086
02:13:44,940 --> 02:13:46,800
high school so if anyone else wants to

3087
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:48,900
come out and take pictures

3088
02:13:48,900 --> 02:13:51,360
you're more than welcome to was that

3089
02:13:51,360 --> 02:13:54,000
directed at all I think no it was right

3090
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:55,940
here it wasn't us

3091
02:13:55,940 --> 02:13:59,159
that's why that's one reason to have

3092
02:13:59,159 --> 02:14:03,300
some help okay all right a check write a

3093
02:14:03,300 --> 02:14:05,000
check and he's writing the check

3094
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:08,219
that's the one reason

3095
02:14:08,219 --> 02:14:11,460
I know that's it okay Somebody's gotta

3096
02:14:11,460 --> 02:14:13,219
take pictures

3097
02:14:13,219 --> 02:14:16,619
you have anything miss them oh I just um

3098
02:14:16,619 --> 02:14:19,199
really enjoyed the presentation at the

3099
02:14:19,199 --> 02:14:22,260
Mary McLeod Bethune statue

3100
02:14:22,260 --> 02:14:24,420
um that was done and it's at The Tavares

3101
02:14:24,420 --> 02:14:30,780
Museum and I hope that you'll go and and and to see it and see all of the

3102
02:14:30,780 --> 02:14:32,579
history and the things that's presented

3103
02:14:32,579 --> 02:14:33,840
with it

3104
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:39,300
um it's a beautiful presentation and the lady who sculpted it was there and

3105
02:14:39,300 --> 02:14:41,040
we're fortunate because

3106
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,079
um we have there's only two tiny ones

3107
02:14:43,079 --> 02:14:45,420
made smaller ones made and and

3108
02:14:45,420 --> 02:14:47,940
fortunately Lake County has one and I'm

3109
02:14:47,940 --> 02:14:49,320
sure the other was probably at the

3110
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:52,020
school but needless to say we have it

3111
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:53,940
and it's a wonderful wonderful

3112
02:14:53,940 --> 02:14:55,920
presentation so I hope that you will

3113
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:58,020
Avail yourselves of it

3114
02:14:58,020 --> 02:15:01,199
anything else that's it thank you Mr

3115
02:15:01,199 --> 02:15:05,040
city manager uh yes couple of items

3116
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:07,800
um organizational grants we are ramping

3117
02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:09,719
up to release our organizational Grant

3118
02:15:09,719 --> 02:15:10,820
application

3119
02:15:10,820 --> 02:15:13,679
we know that there are some changes this

3120
02:15:13,679 --> 02:15:15,480
year one it's going to be a

3121
02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:17,280
reimbursement this year so you have to

3122
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:19,800
perform as an organization before you

3123
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:22,800
get the reimbursement we also want

3124
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:26,089
presentations

3125
02:15:26,099 --> 02:15:30,119
um at after the event or the effort is

3126
02:15:30,119 --> 02:15:32,540
done we want presentations

3127
02:15:32,540 --> 02:15:36,679
as to the impact of the grant

3128
02:15:36,679 --> 02:15:40,500
we will provide all of the applications

3129
02:15:40,500 --> 02:15:42,900
to the city commission for review I

3130
02:15:42,900 --> 02:15:45,060
don't think in the past we've provided

3131
02:15:45,060 --> 02:15:47,880
all of those applications so the one

3132
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:50,099
question I want to ask does the

3133
02:15:50,099 --> 02:15:52,679
commission want presentations

3134
02:15:52,679 --> 02:15:55,800
as part of the application process in

3135
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:58,260
other words all of the applicants come

3136
02:15:58,260 --> 02:16:01,020
before the city commission to present

3137
02:16:01,020 --> 02:16:02,960
their Grant applications

3138
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:06,780
that in the past we've had 15 19 20

3139
02:16:06,780 --> 02:16:09,239
applicants so that would be a

3140
02:16:09,239 --> 02:16:12,719
significant amount of time it might be a

3141
02:16:12,719 --> 02:16:14,639
standalone Workshop because of the

3142
02:16:14,639 --> 02:16:16,980
number of presentations but if that's

3143
02:16:16,980 --> 02:16:18,420
the will of the city commission we're

3144
02:16:18,420 --> 02:16:21,239
happy to set that up so we know we're

3145
02:16:21,239 --> 02:16:24,540
going to get a presentation after the

3146
02:16:24,540 --> 02:16:26,880
organization performs but do we want

3147
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:28,560
presentations

3148
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:31,619
upon application before they perform

3149
02:16:31,619 --> 02:16:33,540
how about if we all read the

3150
02:16:33,540 --> 02:16:36,059
applications and then we select the ones

3151
02:16:36,059 --> 02:16:37,559
that we think would be most appropriate

3152
02:16:37,559 --> 02:16:40,910
and then to view them

3153
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,380
so the commission would get all of the

3154
02:16:43,380 --> 02:16:45,240
applications they would narrow down the

3155
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:47,880
pool and then bring in just those that

3156
02:16:47,880 --> 02:16:50,340
they feel should be funded is that is

3157
02:16:50,340 --> 02:16:51,300
that what you're saying that's a

3158
02:16:51,300 --> 02:16:52,979
suggestion I'm not saying that's what we

3159
02:16:52,979 --> 02:16:54,780
should we should have to do I also would

3160
02:16:54,780 --> 02:16:57,960
want to know how many people are they

3161
02:16:57,960 --> 02:16:59,700
serving how many in the community that

3162
02:16:59,700 --> 02:17:01,439
they serve and reach you know you could

3163
02:17:01,439 --> 02:17:03,660
do a grant and do five people I want to

3164
02:17:03,660 --> 02:17:06,420
know that it was a significant amount of

3165
02:17:06,420 --> 02:17:08,160
people that was impacted by whatever

3166
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:09,599
they did I'd like to know what they're

3167
02:17:09,599 --> 02:17:11,399
going to do with the money and how are

3168
02:17:11,399 --> 02:17:13,500
we represented as a sponsor as well sure

3169
02:17:13,500 --> 02:17:16,740
and I so those that information is

3170
02:17:16,740 --> 02:17:19,439
required as part so they have to tell us

3171
02:17:19,439 --> 02:17:21,599
how many people they're impacting they

3172
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:22,859
have to tell us how they're going to

3173
02:17:22,859 --> 02:17:24,420
spend the money they have to submit

3174
02:17:24,420 --> 02:17:26,639
financials and you'll see all that as

3175
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:29,519
part of the applications yeah I think

3176
02:17:29,519 --> 02:17:32,580
what I'd like is because we have a panel

3177
02:17:32,580 --> 02:17:34,740
that that

3178
02:17:34,740 --> 02:17:36,840
goes through and looks at him now we

3179
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:38,519
have traditionally had a staff review

3180
02:17:38,519 --> 02:17:40,620
group who then makes a recommendation in

3181
02:17:40,620 --> 02:17:41,880
the city commission that's how it's

3182
02:17:41,880 --> 02:17:44,880
worked and I think what what I'd like to

3183
02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:46,500
see is

3184
02:17:46,500 --> 02:17:48,420
because I'm going to be honest with you

3185
02:17:48,420 --> 02:17:51,559
I don't want to listen to 19 of anything

3186
02:17:51,559 --> 02:17:55,979
now we're down yeah I'd like for the

3187
02:17:55,979 --> 02:17:58,139
staff to to kind of narrow it down and

3188
02:17:58,139 --> 02:18:00,240
they maybe have them come in yes yeah

3189
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:02,880
and I wouldn't be opposed to that yeah

3190
02:18:02,880 --> 02:18:05,519
the candidates yeah yeah but I still

3191
02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:07,559
like to see the applications right yes

3192
02:18:07,559 --> 02:18:09,420
exactly so then if we had any questions

3193
02:18:09,420 --> 02:18:11,960
for staff how did you derive

3194
02:18:11,960 --> 02:18:16,760
okay we make us doing 19 you know

3195
02:18:16,760 --> 02:18:19,260
19 organizations coming before us and

3196
02:18:19,260 --> 02:18:22,260
then we only pick the prime then yeah

3197
02:18:22,260 --> 02:18:26,399
the other 14 think we stink so well if

3198
02:18:26,399 --> 02:18:28,979
they said anyway yeah so okay so we'll

3199
02:18:28,979 --> 02:18:31,620
get you all of the applications uh we'll

3200
02:18:31,620 --> 02:18:34,200
narrow it down and then bring to you uh

3201
02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:36,059
who we think are the finalists

3202
02:18:36,059 --> 02:18:37,920
okay okay

3203
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:40,200
um the other uh item

3204
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:42,479
um I've I know I've committed to you to

3205
02:18:42,479 --> 02:18:46,019
having a CRA review committee meeting I

3206
02:18:46,019 --> 02:18:47,700
think the largest outstanding item is

3207
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:48,899
what are we going to do with the mode

3208
02:18:48,899 --> 02:18:51,780
owned program uh and I've I've been

3209
02:18:51,780 --> 02:18:53,760
looking at the calendar to try to get

3210
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:55,559
that scheduled

3211
02:18:55,559 --> 02:18:58,200
um between uh police accreditation the

3212
02:18:58,200 --> 02:18:59,939
mayor the police chief and I will be out

3213
02:18:59,939 --> 02:19:02,219
of town that first week for a couple

3214
02:19:02,219 --> 02:19:05,040
days that first week of October fra is

3215
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:09,120
the week after that so I actually

3216
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:11,820
um at one point I was going to suggest

3217
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:15,780
uh Tuesday October 4th but we just

3218
02:19:15,780 --> 02:19:18,120
scheduled a workshop for the for October

3219
02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:20,160
3rd

3220
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:21,840
um and so I don't want to leave this

3221
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:25,260
hanging and I it's taken I need to get

3222
02:19:25,260 --> 02:19:27,359
on top of this

3223
02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:28,260
um

3224
02:19:28,260 --> 02:19:29,939
because I know we have a couple of

3225
02:19:29,939 --> 02:19:33,200
outstanding items uh what about Tuesday

3226
02:19:33,200 --> 02:19:35,580
October went out that's not gonna

3227
02:19:35,580 --> 02:19:45,660
Tuesday October 11th nope we have to start heading to Daytona yeah so I know we have two that would I

3228
02:19:45,660 --> 02:19:49,730
mean what about the fifth an attempt

3229
02:19:49,740 --> 02:19:52,020
I'm out of town we're out of town Tom

3230
02:19:52,020 --> 02:19:53,939
and I are out of town yeah what about

3231
02:19:53,939 --> 02:19:55,500
the fifth I mean we have the chamber

3232
02:19:55,500 --> 02:19:56,660
breakfast

3233
02:19:56,660 --> 02:19:58,979
I got it oh I didn't know how long you

3234
02:19:58,979 --> 02:20:00,660
were okay yeah the fifth and the sixth

3235
02:20:00,660 --> 02:20:09,429
back the evening of the sixth

3236
02:20:09,439 --> 02:20:12,720
degree Development Association no we're

3237
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:14,700
gone that whole week

3238
02:20:14,700 --> 02:20:18,660
yep and then the week after that are

3239
02:20:18,660 --> 02:20:20,580
um the we're before the special

3240
02:20:20,580 --> 02:20:24,180
magistrate for fire Union and then I

3241
02:20:24,180 --> 02:20:26,760
have a deposition related to

3242
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:29,399
um a court case when do you when do you

3243
02:20:29,399 --> 02:20:32,460
leave for the police accreditation the

3244
02:20:32,460 --> 02:20:33,780
fifth

3245
02:20:33,780 --> 02:20:42,469
yeah about that last week

3246
02:20:42,479 --> 02:20:44,760
and I find them on the third

3247
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:47,220
is that too much time too much too much

3248
02:20:47,220 --> 02:20:50,040
okay how much time are we gonna leave

3249
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:53,220
I probably about an hour I would think

3250
02:20:53,220 --> 02:20:55,560
but I do also need to check availability

3251
02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:58,680
for the appointees yeah uh who are

3252
02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:01,680
obviously not here tonight

3253
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:04,620
October 24th

3254
02:21:04,620 --> 02:21:09,429
25th

3255
02:21:09,439 --> 02:21:12,479
I'm okay with those two dates

3256
02:21:12,479 --> 02:21:16,080
yeah I'm sorry when Monday October 24th

3257
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:20,100
or Tuesday October 25th yeah either one

3258
02:21:20,100 --> 02:21:24,120
okay um if it's okay with you I will

3259
02:21:24,120 --> 02:21:26,100
um we'll start with the 25th because I

3260
02:21:26,100 --> 02:21:27,720
think we've done Tuesday nights in the

3261
02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:29,819
past with this group I'll start with the

3262
02:21:29,819 --> 02:21:35,929
25th and uh try to confirm so okay

3263
02:21:35,939 --> 02:21:38,640
uh I would expect this would be a 5 30.

3264
02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:40,740
I think we have tried to do 5 30 with

3265
02:21:40,740 --> 02:21:42,660
this group we have some people that work

3266
02:21:42,660 --> 02:21:43,920
and

3267
02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:46,680
um can be here by 5 30. Moda owns that

3268
02:21:46,680 --> 02:21:47,939
we're just going

3269
02:21:47,939 --> 02:21:50,399
yeah well it's it's a cre Review

3270
02:21:50,399 --> 02:21:51,720
Committee update but the main

3271
02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:54,060
outstanding item is mode to own

3272
02:21:54,060 --> 02:21:59,210
so your 25th right Tuesday the 25th

3273
02:21:59,220 --> 02:22:01,859
CRA review committee meeting

3274
02:22:01,859 --> 02:22:06,530
together

3275
02:22:06,540 --> 02:22:08,460
anything else Tom I'm sorry the only

3276
02:22:08,460 --> 02:22:11,040
other item is We are continuing to work

3277
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:13,140
uh with fish and wildlife and waste

3278
02:22:13,140 --> 02:22:16,979
management on the bearproof cans and we

3279
02:22:16,979 --> 02:22:18,120
just need to make sure that Waste

3280
02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:20,280
Management can work with what fish and

3281
02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:22,920
wildlife has to offer so yeah it's

3282
02:22:22,920 --> 02:22:26,580
speaking of that I think it would

3283
02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:28,800
I don't know who was was it Mike

3284
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:31,560
yeah it still has the straps as well

3285
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:34,560
correct so we would still have to go out

3286
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:39,600
and talk to the residents they remembered it

3287
02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:41,160
yeah the residents when they wheel the

3288
02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:43,200
toter out they need to unbuckle or

3289
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:45,840
unstrap and it's recommended they do

3290
02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:47,580
that the morning of trash pickup as

3291
02:22:47,580 --> 02:22:49,920
opposed to the night before

3292
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:52,800
yeah as as Jose giving you a date when

3293
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:55,560
he wants to go out and not not yet not

3294
02:22:55,560 --> 02:22:58,080
yet and I I need to get with uh Fisher

3295
02:22:58,080 --> 02:23:01,380
Julie at Fish and Wildlife because she

3296
02:23:01,380 --> 02:23:03,420
wasn't Julie

3297
02:23:03,420 --> 02:23:05,340
okay I need to get with the

3298
02:23:05,340 --> 02:23:06,899
representative from fish and one because

3299
02:23:06,899 --> 02:23:08,460
they have the addresses of where these

3300
02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:10,800
things okay yeah I know where they are

3301
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:12,840
okay there's only three

3302
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:15,540
all right that's all I have Madame

3303
02:23:15,540 --> 02:23:18,680
attorney nothing for me all right

3304
02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:22,500
yes ma'am sorry um no that's fine I just

3305
02:23:22,500 --> 02:23:25,439
wanted to you know me and Leash we're

3306
02:23:25,439 --> 02:23:28,020
doing a free microchip Clinic October

3307
02:23:28,020 --> 02:23:31,319
1st from 10 to noon at the Humane

3308
02:23:31,319 --> 02:23:33,300
Society

3309
02:23:33,300 --> 02:23:34,979
Umatilla address

3310
02:23:34,979 --> 02:23:37,620
and the Humane Society is giving away

3311
02:23:37,620 --> 02:23:39,720
free spay and neuter certificates for

3312
02:23:39,720 --> 02:23:43,920
dogs for Lake County residents

3313
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:45,600
all right

3314
02:23:45,600 --> 02:23:49,319
anything else that was it all right

3315
02:23:49,319 --> 02:23:53,640
um quick things uh 911 service that uh

3316
02:23:53,640 --> 02:23:56,399
City of Tavares and Lake County put on

3317
02:23:56,399 --> 02:23:58,859
was outstanding several of us got to

3318
02:23:58,859 --> 02:24:00,780
attend that I got to speak at that event

3319
02:24:00,780 --> 02:24:03,899
very nice uh the Barry McLeod Bethune

3320
02:24:03,899 --> 02:24:06,960
statue was just a great Gathering of

3321
02:24:06,960 --> 02:24:09,899
folks from all over Lake County just an

3322
02:24:09,899 --> 02:24:13,920
outstanding job was done that statue is

3323
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:17,280
carved out of the the same marble that

3324
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:18,899
is was used for the one that's in

3325
02:24:18,899 --> 02:24:21,620
Washington DC it's statutorial hall now

3326
02:24:21,620 --> 02:24:24,780
it also came out of the same Quarry that

3327
02:24:24,780 --> 02:24:27,060
the statue of David came out of the

3328
02:24:27,060 --> 02:24:29,939
statue is absolutely beautiful so if you

3329
02:24:29,939 --> 02:24:33,240
can go over to the Old Lake County

3330
02:24:33,240 --> 02:24:35,399
Courthouse the Historical Museum and see

3331
02:24:35,399 --> 02:24:37,080
that statue

3332
02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:39,899
as the start of September Comes Along we

3333
02:24:39,899 --> 02:24:42,540
are slammed with things to do watch the

3334
02:24:42,540 --> 02:24:46,319
Civic City website come out and enjoy uh

3335
02:24:46,319 --> 02:24:48,780
our fall festivals and everything else

3336
02:24:48,780 --> 02:24:50,819
we have to offer our staff does a great

3337
02:24:50,819 --> 02:24:53,160
job putting those things on I want to

3338
02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:54,720
thank you all for staying with us it's

3339
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:56,880
about 8 25 and we're going to be

3340
02:24:56,880 --> 02:24:57,550
adjourned

3341
02:24:57,550 --> 02:25:00,590
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