[0:09] thank you know what I messed up
[0:25] no you don't know
[0:34] thank you
[0:38] good evening everyone welcome to the
[0:40] Eustis City Commission meeting this is
[0:43] our regular City commission meeting it
[0:44] is Thursday September the 22nd it is 6
[0:47] p.m if you would like to join us in a
[0:50] moment of silence and the pledge to our
[0:53] flag please stand
[1:07] amen commissioner Smith join me in the
[1:10] pledge I pledge allegiance
[1:13] of the United States of America and to
[1:16] the Republic for which it stands one
[1:19] nation under God indivisible with
[1:22] liberty and justice for all
[1:25] thank you all
[1:27] officially call our meeting to order
[1:29] Christine and Sarah corn president
[1:31] proper notice been given yes thank you
[1:34] so much Tom an agenda update yes sir
[1:37] [Music]
[1:37] um
[1:38] agenda item 5.1 and 5.2 we would like to
[1:43] remove those from consent and put those
[1:46] under ordinances public hearings and
[1:48] quasi-judicial hearings so in effect
[1:50] we're just moving them from one section
[1:52] to another and they're still in the same
[1:54] order on the agenda perfect thank you
[1:56] sir next we have approval of minutes and
[2:00] we have the minutes from July 5th 2022
[2:02] regular City commission meeting what's
[2:04] the will of the commission absolutely
[2:06] second thank you first to second any
[2:09] further discussion not hearing any roll
[2:11] call please commissioner hope Smith aye
[2:13] commissioner Cobb aye commissioner
[2:15] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor
[2:17] Holland aye next we have presentations
[2:20] first off we've got the Eustis High
[2:22] School future Business Leaders of
[2:23] America come on up
[2:26] it's good to have you all with us
[2:29] tonight
[2:31] thank you so much for the invitation
[2:33] good evening mayor vice mayor City
[2:35] commissioners and the city manager and
[2:38] the City attorney and
[2:41] the city of Houston staff my name is
[2:43] Sonja white I am the FBLA advisor for
[2:46] Eustis High School this is our second
[2:48] year and we want to say thank you so
[2:50] much we do have a small PowerPoint
[2:53] presentation
[2:58] and first of all I want to say a huge
[3:03] heartfelt thank you for the City of
[3:05] Eustis thank you so much for supporting
[3:07] our students last year we had the
[3:10] opportunity to travel to Chicago for the
[3:13] future Business Leaders of America
[3:15] national competition we had two students
[3:18] from Houston this was like the first
[3:20] time in about eight years I believe that
[3:23] we had two students to compete in the
[3:26] National even though they did not place
[3:28] in Nashville but the experience and the
[3:32] exposure that they got was just totally
[3:34] phenomenal and one of the students she
[3:36] was currently a freshman in Dallas Texas
[3:38] at Baylor University so she was in FBLA
[3:43] pretty much our whole time at Eustis
[3:46] High School so we are very excited for
[3:48] her but also we're excited to kick off
[3:51] this year and I just wanted to let the
[3:54] audience know exactly what your donation
[3:57] and your support for Eustis High School
[4:00] what we're doing we have a a few
[4:02] community events that we like to do this
[4:04] year and of course it's the continuation
[4:06] of the socks for seniors where we donate
[4:09] socks to we have adopted Lake Eustis
[4:12] nursing home and the Eustis Head Start
[4:15] program we are providing socks for their
[4:18] children and providing socks for their
[4:20] seniors it's no cost to them this is our
[4:23] community event for the FBLA and of
[4:27] course this year we're going to support
[4:28] and kick off the March of Dimes which is
[4:31] fbla's
[4:33] um baby that's their baby of fundraisers
[4:36] I mean community events and of course
[4:38] Eustis High School we are doing the
[4:40] panther Pantry because you know with the
[4:43] um pandemic a lot of people lost jobs a
[4:46] lot of families are in need but we are
[4:48] so thankful for you since high school
[4:50] where we can contribute non-perishable
[4:53] food items some of us give out our
[4:55] pockets and some of us have like
[4:57] relatives that have small businesses
[4:59] that donate to that and believe it or
[5:02] not this year
[5:04] the staff the administrative has told us
[5:07] that there is a huge need and what they
[5:11] have done was they put together a survey
[5:13] where the students can go in confidence
[5:16] they will go on a complete a survey
[5:18] letting us know who is in need and what
[5:21] they're in need of and it's on both
[5:22] campuses it's on the ninth grade Center
[5:24] and on the main campus as well so
[5:28] this is very dear um of course FBLA does
[5:31] a lot of Charity and yes we do solicit
[5:34] donations but we give back as well and
[5:37] I'm so excited to be the advice and I'm
[5:39] so excited tonight I have our district
[5:41] director and Miss Debbie sear here with
[5:44] me she's
[5:46] showed me the ropes and guided me
[5:48] through this so I'm very thankful for
[5:51] that our food box drive that we are
[5:53] doing is of course during the month of
[5:55] November it kicks off October 1st the
[5:58] time for the students to leave for the
[6:00] Thanksgiving holidays and you know a lot
[6:02] of students are dependent on the free
[6:05] breakfast and the free lunch so we are
[6:08] going to start early at any time you can
[6:10] do drop off there will be a box place on
[6:13] both campuses for the non-perishable
[6:15] food items of course items that they can
[6:18] use if they don't have any electricity
[6:20] we do have students that are homeless we
[6:22] have students that are in shelters
[6:24] and in foster care but we're trying to
[6:26] do our best uh we are blessed to have
[6:30] these things and we are giving back to
[6:31] our community as well so we will be
[6:34] doing that both November and December
[6:36] and also
[6:40] um these are just pictures from our
[6:41] previous just to let you know that we're
[6:43] just not up here talking we have
[6:45] evidence of what we're doing and the
[6:47] kids they enjoy giving back um this is
[6:50] uh miss here and I we were at the Lake
[6:52] Eustis nursing home and of course we
[6:55] have their permission
[6:56] um to post their pictures and we're so
[6:58] thankful for the City of Eustis that
[7:00] come out when we had our heritage
[7:02] festival at the Eustis campus and also
[7:05] we give back to the um uses Head Start
[7:08] program and this is our food drive that
[7:10] we're giving back now what we're asking
[7:13] for because I'm so excited that we had
[7:17] our first meeting and we had 15 new
[7:21] students to want to be a part of it so
[7:24] they were aware of what FBLA was doing
[7:27] at uses and also the opportunities that
[7:30] we're giving them we're very thankful
[7:31] that we're again the local community to
[7:33] partner with us they have businesses and
[7:36] I'm so proud that over the summer one of
[7:39] the local business here in Eustis hired
[7:41] one of our students for the summer
[7:43] program and another one that was in
[7:45] Leesburg even though they were in Lake
[7:47] County they hired our students so not
[7:49] only are we being involved we're
[7:51] competing nationally but we are training
[7:54] our students in our CTE program to be
[7:57] equipped and to be ready to
[7:59] be productive citizens in Corporate
[8:03] America as well we um we have combined
[8:06] with um the encourage it's an
[8:09] organization that is doing a survey to
[8:11] see where our students want to go to
[8:13] college offer them scholarships give
[8:15] them those resources that in a normal
[8:17] setting they would not get it so we are
[8:19] very thankful that the FBLA students and
[8:22] Entrepreneurship program at Eustis High
[8:25] School we can get that stuff that makes
[8:27] sure that this next generation will not
[8:29] be a forgotten generation would not be a
[8:32] Lost Generation because we are Village
[8:34] Keepers and we are here to help equip
[8:37] our students so I am asking if the City
[8:40] of Eustis along with the entire Lake
[8:43] County those that have small businesses
[8:45] or are aware of a business if they can
[8:48] give a donation
[8:50] if they can give her a donation
[8:52] um to Eustis High School to the FBLA
[8:55] program we are going to be competing at
[8:57] a local level a state level and
[9:01] hopefully again this year on the
[9:02] national level we're excited that this
[9:05] year come November our elective officers
[9:08] will be participating in the fall
[9:10] National Conference which will be held
[9:13] in Orlando so we're getting them early
[9:15] to get them ready so I'm super excited
[9:18] about that I'm super excited that
[9:20] they're here learning about government
[9:21] even though it is almost an election
[9:24] year but every little bit helps and we
[9:27] want them to be equipped we want them to
[9:29] be prepared we're educating them that at
[9:31] 16 you can pre-register to vote so we
[9:34] want them to know everything that there
[9:36] is to know and how to be successful
[9:39] productive positive citizens so as the
[9:43] FBLA advisor I am asking if you would
[9:46] just think back you can process or when
[9:49] you was in high school or when you was
[9:51] trying to find that job did you not have
[9:54] the tools that you needed to be
[9:55] successful did you not know how to type
[9:58] how to write a resume how to fill out an
[10:01] application so remember our students of
[10:03] Eustis High School
[10:05] all the information is up there and we
[10:08] do have flyers in different colors for
[10:11] you to have and just to read over and
[10:13] let you know what FBLA is all about and
[10:16] like I said we are Village Keepers and
[10:18] it takes a whole village as you can see
[10:20] in the last three years it's taken
[10:23] everybody it's taking the local grocery
[10:25] store manager is taking Miss Jones
[10:27] across the street it's taking the
[10:29] babysitter you know the Publix person
[10:32] the library and everybody to help shape
[10:35] and mold our citizens our students for
[10:38] the Next Generation they're going to be
[10:40] the ones when we retire being the
[10:42] decision making so we want to make sure
[10:44] that they are equipped and they have
[10:46] everything that they need to be
[10:49] successful and I thank you so much for
[10:51] your time Sonya thank you so much thank
[10:54] you for what you're doing with that
[10:55] program when I was in high school at
[10:58] Eustis it was a strong program and
[11:01] you're growing it back to what it used
[11:02] to be so thank you so much thank you
[11:04] would you like to introduce some of your
[11:06] students yes I'm asking all of my
[11:09] students so please stand up we're so
[11:12] glad some of them are trying out for the
[11:15] flag football
[11:16] [Applause]
[11:23] and I'm so glad that their parents came
[11:25] with them their parents didn't just
[11:27] dropped them off they're here as well so
[11:29] we are a family and then to take once
[11:31] again it takes a village and I thank you
[11:33] for your time Sonia thank you and we'll
[11:34] get that on our website also to help you
[11:36] out okay thank you so much thank you oh
[11:38] also yes ma'am the City of Eustis did
[11:41] help us
[11:42] financially last year I just want to let
[11:45] you know and I think the citizens for
[11:48] everything that you've done thank you
[11:51] next we've got recognition of our Miss
[11:53] Eustis Queens I'm going to ask Rachel
[11:56] Henderson to come up and help me Rachel
[11:58] is a former Miss Eustis and has been
[12:01] running the program since 2017 and I am
[12:05] very proud of Rachel and all she's done
[12:06] you can help me introduce our young
[12:08] ladies we just had this pageant when um
[12:11] August right yes August end of August
[12:14] and every one of these girls did a
[12:16] fantastic job
[12:18] absolutely and I'm going to tell you we
[12:21] don't have any better ambassadors than
[12:24] the ladies that serve through the Miss
[12:26] Eustis program this commission works
[12:29] hard on a daily basis trying to get out
[12:30] in the public but I'm going to tell you
[12:32] these people really these young ladies
[12:35] really touch a lot of folks when they're
[12:37] out in the community so I look forward
[12:39] to working with each one of you for the
[12:41] next year I mean I know the rest of the
[12:43] Commissioners are excited so I've got
[12:46] some pins behind us I'll let you grab a
[12:48] pen and what we're going to do we're
[12:50] going to give you your pins tonight and
[12:51] at the end of the year we'll give them
[12:53] their certificates okay let's go ahead
[12:56] and start with many Miss Eustis and
[12:59] that's Blake Bill Blake can you come up
[13:01] here
[13:03] come on Blake
[13:11] and I know we don't want to take this
[13:12] away from from Blake but Blake's mama is
[13:16] the coach of our uh
[13:18] state championship softball team at
[13:21] Eustis High School so she's here tonight
[13:23] too I think so
[13:27] next we have the tiny misuse and that's
[13:30] Delaney Poe van Durham is that correct
[13:33] Bender me okay come on up
[13:42] hi
[13:44] and next we have Little Miss Eustis and
[13:47] that's Caroline Flint Carolyn how are
[13:49] you
[13:51] beautiful
[13:54] and next we have Junior Miss Eustis and
[13:58] that's Sydney Savory Sydney how are you
[14:00] tonight good
[14:04] and then teen misused us we have Lauren
[14:07] simple is that correct Lauren how are
[14:09] you good
[14:12] and then our misuse this year is Taylor
[14:16] Davidson Taylor how are you good
[14:20] so
[14:24] [Applause]
[14:28] what we're going to do is I'm going to
[14:29] get the commission to stand we're going
[14:31] to kind of Center the girls there we'll
[14:33] take a picture we'll get this out on
[14:34] Facebook
[14:43] okay
[14:47] everybody okay
[14:53] it's me
[14:57] look right here
[15:01] perfect okay so we got some parrots we
[15:04] got some parents
[15:11] congratulations
[15:25] I'll be there
[15:27] Fall Festival I love it thank you all
[15:31] have a great night thank you you say
[15:33] thank you
[15:36] [Applause]
[15:55] give them just a second so they can
[15:57] leave
[16:05] and next we have comprehensive plan and
[16:07] Joint planning area review Tom yes
[16:10] um
[16:11] as you will remember uh we secured the
[16:15] services of gunster law firm uh to
[16:18] review some items related to our
[16:20] comprehensive plan and the joint
[16:22] planning area agreement with Lake County
[16:24] and so we have here tonight Derek Bruce
[16:27] and Jack Rice from gunster who are going
[16:30] to talk to you a little bit about their research you should have received
[16:36] some information from City attorney
[16:38] Derek Shroff related to their findings
[16:40] but they're here to present those
[16:42] findings tonight thank you good to see
[16:44] you my friend mayor good to see you as
[16:46] well Commissioners a pleasure to be with
[16:48] you all this evening and uh Tom thank
[16:50] you very much for uh for that
[16:52] introduction uh so on on this particular
[16:56] assignment what uh what I thought would
[16:58] be really beneficial is to uh is to
[17:02] utilize when you have resources like our
[17:05] firm does and that we can make available
[17:07] to you we have people with with very
[17:10] specific expertise and and the person
[17:13] that that I thought would be best suited
[17:15] for the for the assignment and the
[17:17] research and giving you all the the
[17:18] advice for which you were looking on the
[17:20] map 19 issue is Jack Rice uh Jack has
[17:24] been uh either legal counsel or special
[17:27] counsel to five different uh uh cities
[17:30] and and counties as well as has a
[17:33] master's degree in in urban planning and
[17:36] so he is intimately familiar with uh
[17:39] with the issues that that you have asked
[17:42] about and and really dove in so I'm
[17:44] gonna turn it over to Jack who's got a
[17:46] little presentation uh that uh
[17:49] will hopefully give you all the
[17:51] information you need and we'll be here
[17:52] for questions as well thank you Gary
[17:54] welcome Chad thank you thank you mayor
[17:56] thank you Derek good morning good
[17:58] evening everybody thank you for having
[17:59] me
[18:00] um
[18:01] just as Derek said my name is Jack Rice
[18:03] I'm attorney at gunster and I prime
[18:05] practice primarily in the areas of land
[18:06] use and Zoning I will warn you that I am
[18:09] also a nerd when it comes to planning
[18:10] and learning which means that there are
[18:12] lots of details in my head so I'm going
[18:15] to try to go through this as quickly and
[18:16] succinctly as possible but feel free to
[18:19] follow up and ask me some you know
[18:21] general questions if you have any
[18:23] um the first thing I kind of wanted to
[18:25] look
[18:25] kind of look at everything from a
[18:27] sky-high view the questions that we were
[18:28] assigned and what the results were and
[18:30] then we'll kind of go into the details
[18:31] so the first question that we were
[18:33] opposed with was weather removal of map
[18:35] 19 would invalidate the city of eustis's
[18:37] jpa with the county the answer is no
[18:40] resolution 87 34 that establishes the
[18:44] jpa that is going to remain in effect
[18:46] even if map 19 is removed from your comp
[18:49] plan the reason is is because this
[18:51] resolution is an independent legal
[18:53] instrument it has a map attached to it
[18:56] and that map identifies the areas where
[18:59] the provisions related to
[19:00] intergovernmental coordination
[19:02] annexation and just general you know
[19:05] joint planning occur so even if map 19
[19:09] is removed the jpa's obligations and
[19:12] those boundaries will remain unchanged
[19:13] because of the map attached to your
[19:15] resolution that is still in effect with
[19:17] the county
[19:18] um the next question was whether removal
[19:20] of map 19 would create some
[19:21] inconsistencies or otherwise be
[19:23] incompatible with the comp plans of
[19:25] either the county or Eustis the answer
[19:28] there again is No removal of map19 will
[19:31] really create no inconsistencies with
[19:33] either comp plan there is some text
[19:35] within your own comprehensive plan that
[19:37] will need to be changed just to avoid
[19:39] internal inconsistencies which is as a
[19:42] general policy matter your comp plan
[19:44] will remain the same and will remain in
[19:46] effect and it'll be fine
[19:48] there will also be no issue if the
[19:50] County's comp plan as I'll point out
[19:52] during my presentation the County's comp
[19:53] plan actually does not make reference to
[19:55] the jpa with Eustis
[19:59] in fact it after our review it actually
[20:01] seems that if you removed map 19 it
[20:03] would really offer a lot of clarity and
[20:05] eliminate a lot of confusion and then
[20:07] finally we were asked to look at math 19
[20:09] and the effect of the interlocal
[20:11] agreement you all have with Mount Dora
[20:13] and once again the answers no there
[20:16] wouldn't be an issue there because your
[20:18] interlocal agreement with Mount Dora
[20:19] would continue to remain as a
[20:21] freestanding legal agreement it has a
[20:23] map attached and that agreement and map
[20:26] have their own obligations which would
[20:28] continue even if mat 19 is removed
[20:31] um so to quickly go through things in
[20:33] Greater detail
[20:34] um resolution 8734 as we've just talked
[20:37] about it today that's rather older
[20:39] documents from July of 87. it was
[20:42] executed by both the City of Eustis and
[20:43] the county it allowed usages to Annex
[20:46] properties into a jpa area that were
[20:48] identified on a map that's being shown
[20:50] on the screens in front of you it also
[20:52] said that eventually that a jpa plan
[20:54] would be mutually adopted by both the
[20:57] county and Eustis and that that plan
[20:59] once it was adopted would would
[21:02] basically guide the growth for this area
[21:04] and then one of the notable portions of
[21:06] the resolution that says quote until
[21:08] then the city and county and the interim
[21:11] period will regulate development in the
[21:13] jpa in accordance with their currently
[21:15] adopted comprehensive plans in any
[21:17] Amendment and when we started to go
[21:19] through the history of the Eustis plan
[21:21] it it we found basically in records that
[21:24] the county never actually no Mutual
[21:25] adoption occurred so the status
[21:28] currently is zero resolution is what
[21:30] governs until the two bodies come
[21:32] together and are able to adopt a plan
[21:34] and outline their future
[21:36] and the way we found that out was we we
[21:38] went back in history and we looked at
[21:39] your first plan and what I'm showing up
[21:42] on the map right now that is the one of
[21:44] the maps that was attached and
[21:45] identified in your first comprehensive
[21:46] plan as the the map of the Eustis area
[21:49] now I'm assuming everybody in this room
[21:52] knows even better than myself that when
[21:54] you look at that map that includes areas
[21:56] that are not in the City of Eustis and
[21:59] so what was interesting was when we
[22:01] contacted the Florida Department of
[22:02] Economic Opportunity which is the
[22:04] current successor to the Department of
[22:06] Community Affairs we were we had to go
[22:09] through the record records and we were
[22:11] told first a we found a memorandum that
[22:13] you know recited the fact that the
[22:15] county never adopted this plan but it
[22:17] also said that you know this map created
[22:19] confusion because it's got two different
[22:21] sets two different jurisdictions within
[22:23] it and it said only Eustis can basically
[22:27] you know Implement planning designations
[22:30] for properties in Eustis and by putting
[22:33] designations for both useless properties
[22:35] and the county in one you're creating
[22:37] some confusion
[22:39] and it appears that that that confusion
[22:42] kind of persisted
[22:44] um once again the original comp plans
[22:47] memos or from DCA basically said their
[22:49] recommendation was that you try to pull
[22:51] the two maps apart so that you had one
[22:53] that identified just properties and
[22:55] Eustis and one that identified
[22:56] properties in the other in the county
[22:58] and the rationale was because the County
[23:01] Properties could not be planned really
[23:04] by Eustis and so like I said that
[23:07] confusion appears to have persisted
[23:09] because in 2010 when the city was
[23:11] reviewing its comprehensive plan a
[23:13] consultant came in and basically
[23:15] suggested that you guys take the maps
[23:17] apart and have one showing just Eustis
[23:19] and one showing just County or just this
[23:22] jpa area
[23:23] but in effect what happened was you had
[23:26] another map that was adopted showing the
[23:29] both the planning designations for both
[23:31] cities
[23:33] um and so
[23:35] what I'm showing on the map is basically
[23:37] it's still map19 today it was adapted in
[23:40] 2010 and it's still presently in your
[23:42] comprehensive plan when we take a closer
[23:44] look at it you can see that there are
[23:46] some language and some policies in it or
[23:49] actually referenced on it that kind of
[23:50] show that this was probably never
[23:51] intended to really become a binding plan that would you know
[23:55] regulate this body so if we zoom in it's
[23:58] not really showing up on this screen I
[23:59] apologize but you'll see references to a
[24:03] non-transmitted map a draft map a
[24:06] working copy and so these basically tell
[24:09] us what probably got happened what may
[24:11] have happened was you know the wrong
[24:12] document got put in when things got sent
[24:14] off to the DCA to be adopted but in
[24:17] effect the current the current document
[24:19] just really creates confusion and it
[24:21] doesn't need to be there and there are
[24:24] other policies within your comp plan
[24:26] that do address
[24:28] um
[24:30] I'm sorry the the do address the or
[24:32] acknowledge the existence of the jpa so
[24:35] even if map 19 was pulled out there are
[24:37] freestanding policies within your
[24:39] comprehensive plan that reference the
[24:40] existence of that jpa and will continue
[24:42] to continue to bind you and also
[24:46] basically show the city's commitment to
[24:48] work with the county within the jpa area
[24:50] for purposes of annexation and
[24:52] intergovernmental coordination
[24:54] before we really you know opine on you
[24:57] know the effect it will have on the
[24:58] county plan we had to look at the county
[24:59] plan and what we found was the county
[25:01] plan really doesn't mention the jpa with
[25:03] Eustis we know that the county is aware
[25:06] of the resolution and that they
[25:08] currently consider it to still be in
[25:10] effect but the comprehensive plan itself
[25:12] it doesn't make any mention of the jpa
[25:14] what I'm showing on the screen right now
[25:16] is the future the County's future Lane
[25:17] use map exhibit number five which
[25:19] identifies the various joint planning
[25:22] areas within uh the County's
[25:25] jurisdictions and what you'll see is it
[25:28] shows jbas with Lady Lake Claremont and
[25:31] Mount Dora but not Eustis and that's
[25:33] likely because the county is aware just
[25:35] like I said before that the resolution
[25:36] itself continues to kind of stand on its
[25:39] own and bind the two entities
[25:41] um and so in regard to the first two
[25:43] questions it's pretty clear that removal
[25:45] of map 19 would not create any
[25:47] inconsistencies with Eustis or the
[25:49] county plans
[25:50] if anything it will create you know
[25:53] Clarity for individuals when they're
[25:55] looking at the Eustis plan and it will
[25:57] really kind of clear things up because
[25:58] the one thing you'll have which will
[26:00] continue to bind that you can point
[26:02] people to is the original resolution
[26:04] which is what set all of this up
[26:07] um in regard to Mount Dora
[26:09] which is which is what we're discussing
[26:11] you know question number three
[26:13] um mount doors basically you guys have
[26:15] an interlocal agreement with them you
[26:17] entered into that into local agreement
[26:19] in 2003 it expires in December of 2023
[26:23] unless it's terminated it is an
[26:26] automatically renewing agreement and
[26:28] what does it do it sets out purposes and
[26:30] terms for planning providing utilities
[26:32] as well as intergovernmental
[26:33] coordination and most notably it says
[26:36] that Eustis and Mount Dora will not
[26:38] Annex any property in each other's
[26:40] planning areas and identifies that
[26:42] planning area by resort to a map that
[26:44] I'm showing on the screen
[26:46] and
[26:48] it basically it says that you know this
[26:51] map will take effect once Eustis
[26:53] acknowledges it and once the county got
[26:55] I'm sorry once Mount Dora acknowledge it
[26:57] and their comprehensive plans you have a
[26:59] text provision and your comprehensive
[27:01] plan I believe it's intergovernmental
[27:03] coordination policy 1.3.5 which
[27:06] basically States or recognizes the
[27:07] existence of the interlocal agreement it
[27:09] says that you will continue to work with
[27:12] it and be bound by it and that you'll
[27:14] continue to work with Mount Dora to uh
[27:16] to honor it so Eustis is fulfilled it's
[27:19] part of the bargain in that regard what
[27:21] is the mount doors comprehensive plan
[27:23] say again it's got language
[27:27] I'm sorry this is the language in the
[27:29] Eustis comprehensive plan that
[27:30] acknowledges the existence of the jpa
[27:32] not the jpa with the interlocal
[27:33] agreement
[27:38] and next I have the language and the
[27:40] Mount Dora comprehensive plan that talks
[27:42] about and acknowledges the existence of
[27:44] the interlocal agreement with Eustis
[27:46] so if you remove map 19 you won't be
[27:49] touching this these languages in either
[27:51] comprehensive plan those will continue
[27:53] to be in existence and you'll continue
[27:55] to be bound by the interlocal agreement
[27:57] and it really won't have any effect on
[27:59] the interlocal agreement status with
[28:02] Mount Dora
[28:04] um so that's kind of how we got to our
[28:06] answers I've I know I've set them out in
[28:07] Greater detail but I hope I haven't
[28:08] bored you all to death if you guys have
[28:10] any questions I'm more than happy to
[28:12] answer to them and it's been a pleasure
[28:13] to look into both y'all's histories and
[28:16] futures
[28:17] any questions subject
[28:20] yeah good job he brought Clarity for me
[28:24] because I I read every bit of this and I
[28:28] just it was nice to have legal
[28:31] view overview of this whole entire thing
[28:34] you know sometimes we can interpret
[28:36] things differently and to have someone
[28:38] give us a legal you know a view of it is
[28:41] wonderful because I was getting
[28:43] yes no yes no yes no yes no and finally
[28:46] I said I'm not doing anything until we
[28:48] get some clarity so I it helps me
[28:51] tremendously thank you we're glad we
[28:53] could help
[28:53] thank you so much Derek thank you so
[28:56] much
[28:58] Tom I'd like to go ahead and ask that
[28:59] this be put on a future agenda so we can
[29:02] go ahead and clarify this
[29:03] okay
[29:05] thank you
[29:06] next we come down to audience to be
[29:09] heard
[29:10] um and this is about anybody I'd like to
[29:12] speak about something but it's not on
[29:13] our agenda this evening got anybody's
[29:16] home uh yes I have a card for niana
[29:18] Patel okay
[29:21] hi Mrs Patel hello
[29:23] good evening everybody pull it down
[29:25] that's fine yes ma'am
[29:27] um a couple of weeks ago we got I sent
[29:31] something to Mr schroth that um we're
[29:34] done with everything we needed to get
[29:36] done and we're ready to move on and I
[29:39] I'm sure Mr Schott sent something over
[29:42] to you guys and I was wondering if we
[29:45] could set some sort of a date or I don't
[29:47] know what our next steps are again this
[29:49] is so new for me
[29:50] so I don't know what I think Tom has
[29:53] some information for you okay so
[29:55] um the I believe at a previous meeting
[29:58] the city commission asked that the code enforcement board uh reviewed
[30:03] this and so right now uh staff is
[30:05] pulling together the information needed
[30:07] and it will go to the code enforcement
[30:10] board I think the plan is to go to the
[30:12] code board in October which will be the next code board uh meeting the code
[30:20] board meets the second Monday of the
[30:22] month and so I don't have a calendar in
[30:25] front of me
[30:27] so that it the plan would be for that to
[30:29] be to to for that to go to the code
[30:31] board on October 10th am I supposed to
[30:34] attend that meeting I if I was you I
[30:36] would be a definite meeting okay on
[30:38] October 10th once they're completed with
[30:40] it it will come back to the city
[30:41] commission so you're probably back in
[30:43] front of the Commission in November okay all righty sounds good thank you
[30:48] again
[30:50] anybody else Tom uh yes
[30:54] um we have a discussion related to
[31:00] um chickens on the agenda but it's under
[31:03] other business which generally does not
[31:05] allow for public input you can hear it
[31:07] now so I have Aaron Phillips all right
[31:13] how are you Aaron
[31:15] good thank you for being back tonight
[31:17] thank you for hearing
[31:20] can you hear me okay fantastic
[31:23] um
[31:25] good evening my name is Aaron Phillips
[31:26] and I represent a few families here in
[31:28] the Eustis area and surrounding
[31:30] communities and we would like to thank
[31:32] the City commissioners for taking time
[31:34] once again to hear the concerns of
[31:36] residents in regards to keeping backyard
[31:38] chickens within Cinemas city limits
[31:40] we've heard your concerns and Views
[31:42] about keeping chickens in the previous
[31:43] meeting and we are under the under we
[31:47] are of the understanding this has been a
[31:49] reoccurring issue it's it seems like it
[31:51] continues to come up over the years uh
[31:53] we'd like to help overcome this obstacle
[31:55] and move forward together I assure you
[31:57] although we might ruffle some feathers
[31:59] we won't pluck you I had to I had to I
[32:04] can't fall so first when we speak about
[32:07] chickens we're referring to keeping and
[32:09] not raising uh hens in the backyards no
[32:11] roosters this keeps our dialogue clear
[32:13] of potential agricultural concerns which
[32:16] were brought up in the past and
[32:18] regulations as residents of this city
[32:20] and members of the surrounding
[32:21] communities we are respectfully offering
[32:22] the city our recommended guidelines for
[32:24] keeping backyard chickens members of our
[32:27] safety and preparedness team our
[32:29] education team and our Civics team have
[32:31] researched and collaborated on these
[32:32] proposed guidelines an effort to assist
[32:34] and streamline the ordinance and code
[32:36] writing processes our group has analyzed
[32:39] almost 50 cities and counties here in
[32:40] Florida that allow for the keeping of
[32:42] chickens
[32:43] it turned out to be quite the Endeavor
[32:46] but a phenomenal exercise and experience
[32:48] for us nonetheless we compared we tried
[32:52] our best I promise we compared City
[32:55] areas populations population densities
[32:57] as well as traditions and culture
[32:59] we found little to no correlation
[33:02] between them we then compared the
[33:04] different city codes and ordinances
[33:06] guidelines and requirements in a gown
[33:07] again found no real solid consistencies
[33:11] there we did however find wordy verbiage
[33:14] gratuitous regulations and excessive
[33:16] educational requirements for something
[33:17] humans have been accomplishing for
[33:19] literally thousands of years I'm sure
[33:20] that's been brought to your attention
[33:21] here in the past as well therefore we
[33:24] decided to use the same search and
[33:25] comparison criteria for these guidelines
[33:27] for the city of use of space on our
[33:28] experiences conducting the research
[33:30] reviewing dialogues from blogs websites
[33:33] and various academic institutions
[33:35] we believe in the kiss rule keep it
[33:37] simple super simple so we have limited
[33:39] our list to 10 guidelines
[33:41] this is done with intent as it allows
[33:44] for the people to govern themselves
[33:45] accordingly
[33:46] and it allows for the city and the
[33:49] future to impose further governance
[33:50] where it may be needed in the community
[33:53] do you want me to read these 10 real
[33:55] quick that's entirely man's like nope
[33:59] I already read the 22-page dissertation
[34:02] oh you poor thing I'm glad I missed that
[34:04] if you'll give it to Christine she can
[34:06] get it out to it and thank you again so
[34:09] much for your time thank you no thank
[34:11] you for here letting us hear you tonight
[34:13] thank you thank you anyone else I have a
[34:16] couple cards that uh will be heard at
[34:18] the time of the item but that's it for
[34:20] audience to be heard anyone else like to
[34:22] speak to the commission about something
[34:24] that's not on the agenda this evening
[34:26] not seeing anybody will move right on
[34:28] down Madam attorney will turn it over to
[34:30] you thank you Mr Mayor we have
[34:33] resolution 22-68 a resolution of the
[34:35] city Commission of the City of Eustis
[34:37] Florida approving a code enforcement
[34:39] board action to authorize the City
[34:40] attorney to foreclose on an outstanding
[34:42] code enforcement lien recorded against
[34:44] 44 sharp Circle LLC
[34:47] believe Mr Martin so I I can start off
[34:50] maybe give you some general background
[34:53] um so this case has been going on uh for
[34:57] about a year you have in your packet the
[35:00] initial case history for this case
[35:03] September 14th of 2021.
[35:06] there have been quite a few visits to
[35:10] the property by code enforcement
[35:13] um
[35:14] based on
[35:16] this particular issue is related to the
[35:20] conditions of a rental unit there over
[35:25] the past year there's been a lot of
[35:27] discussion with the property owner about
[35:29] whether the property would be renovated
[35:32] and rehabilitated or whether whether the
[35:35] property would be demolished it remains
[35:38] an outstanding issue
[35:40] and
[35:42] excuse me
[35:44] um it has as you can see from your
[35:48] information it's gone to the code board
[35:50] quite a few times
[35:52] the code board on August 8 2022
[35:57] considered moving forward with a
[36:01] foreclosure on the lien they approve
[36:05] that
[36:06] again just a little bit of background
[36:08] you we forwarded to you some
[36:11] correspondence with a representative of
[36:14] the property owner that representative
[36:16] was questioning uh due process I will
[36:21] tell you that both at the code board on
[36:24] August 8 2022 the question came up as to
[36:27] whether the code board was authorized
[36:29] based on due process to move forward
[36:32] with this and the code board attorney
[36:35] assured the code board that they were
[36:37] able to move forward with this if they
[36:40] so chose and they did move forward with
[36:43] that the question has been raised and I
[36:46] know uh Sasha has had some discussions
[36:49] with their representative I'm
[36:51] paraphrasing what Sasha and I discussed
[36:54] which is uh we feel that it is
[36:59] appropriate for the city commission to
[37:01] move forward with this if they so choose
[37:04] the prop the representative of the
[37:06] property owner has asked that it be
[37:08] continued until October 6th but that is
[37:12] completely at the discretion of the city
[37:15] commission we do have a couple people
[37:17] who have given cards who want to speak
[37:19] on this item
[37:21] code enforcement supervisor Eric Martin
[37:23] is here he has prepared
[37:27] um documentation of the notifications
[37:29] that we've done he's prepared photos of
[37:32] what we've been dealing with and so we
[37:35] are Eric is here and happy to give you
[37:37] more information and try to answer any
[37:39] questions you might have Chief Capri is
[37:42] also here and has been involved and then
[37:45] of course uh Mr Paskowski our code board
[37:48] chairs here as is Stephanie Carter who
[37:50] serves on our code board and so whether
[37:54] it's representatives of the code board
[37:55] or the City attorney or Mr Martin we are
[37:59] here to answer any questions you might
[38:01] have on what's going on in addition
[38:05] I want to make it clear we have other
[38:07] code issues out at Sharps Park but we
[38:10] are not dealing specifically with those
[38:12] tonight we are dealing with a specific
[38:14] case but we can also provide some
[38:17] background on other code enforcement
[38:18] issues unrelated to this specific case
[38:21] that we're also dealing with out there
[38:23] and so we'd be happy to try to answer
[38:25] any questions you may have
[38:27] I think we start with Derek okay Eric
[38:30] sorry okay all right Garrett yeah
[38:35] good evening Commissioners Eric Martin
[38:37] code enforcement supervisor
[38:40] so
[38:41] basically I'm just here to kind of do a
[38:44] ask an answer I do know we have some
[38:47] more residents in today's tonight's
[38:49] audience that did not fill out a card so
[38:52] you know I guess when they come in I
[38:54] guess I can just before they leave fill
[38:56] one out is that how it would work we um
[39:00] I think I think we we can just call them
[39:02] up as long as they State their name
[39:05] um that that's fine they don't have to
[39:06] fill out a card so the first thing I did
[39:09] this morning when in preparation for
[39:11] tonight I the park obtained ownership of
[39:15] the property in February 2019. since
[39:19] then there have been 18 total code
[39:21] violations at that location
[39:24] but for numerous violations and we can
[39:27] go into the details if you if you wish
[39:29] us to but the item today is a
[39:33] three-sharp circle
[39:51] let me pull that one out I've got a
[39:56] lunch
[40:07] so basically on September 14 2021 the
[40:11] city received a code enforcement or a
[40:14] lieutenant complaint about the
[40:15] conditions of this mobile home and
[40:18] dwelling unit when we went in and
[40:20] inspected it we saw some very severe
[40:23] electrical hazards
[40:25] here like in picture two they had an
[40:29] extension cord on a plug outlet and it
[40:31] ran all the way through it was run all
[40:33] the way through the front porch
[40:34] underneath the mobile home and into an
[40:37] outlet inside the mobile home and it was
[40:39] running power or running a light or of
[40:41] some sort on the on the patio there were
[40:44] issues with the stairs not being secure
[40:46] not being centered on the doorways
[40:49] um the main issue was there was a water
[40:51] leak in the toilet room and you'll see
[40:54] here in picture eight that is an actual
[40:57] electrical wire coming down
[40:59] and as you see here in picture nine it
[41:02] is hot
[41:03] so there was a water leak so the
[41:05] toilet's leaking water all over the
[41:06] floor there's no um
[41:09] impervious surface in that bathroom it
[41:12] was just pretty much hot-nosed pieces of
[41:14] plywood
[41:15] and anyone that has sitting on that
[41:18] toilet you know your water's leaking
[41:22] around you you've got live wires within
[41:24] Arms Reach of you so we were really
[41:27] concerned with the life safety of the
[41:30] tenant at that point
[41:31] so we here's showing just some water
[41:34] damage some some surface damages
[41:38] uh in this in this and you know looks
[41:40] like an old roof leak
[41:42] um so throughout the mobile home we we
[41:44] continue to find more electrical hazards
[41:47] throughout
[41:50] so this was inside a cabinet this one
[41:52] was in over the stove this was over the
[41:56] uh
[41:57] there was one over the coffee maker
[41:59] there were two exposed electrical wires
[42:02] on the uh in the living room
[42:07] there was a plug outlet they had
[42:10] completely come dislodged and was laying
[42:11] inside the wall
[42:13] and there were other electrical
[42:15] violations that don't meet the National
[42:17] Electric Code
[42:18] so when I notified the building official
[42:20] loved the conditions he authorized Duke
[42:23] Energy to terminate the power on that
[42:26] dwelling unit immediately that day
[42:28] so it's been off ever since
[42:31] um
[42:31] and this is owned by that's owned by
[42:34] sharks mobile home park okay that that
[42:37] was thank you
[42:40] Eric Were you invited in by the the yes
[42:43] the tenants signed a consent to allow us
[42:47] to to go in and inspect her dwelling
[42:50] um we don't the city has never taken
[42:52] lightly condemning and owner-occupied
[42:55] residential dwelling the last thing we
[42:57] want to do is put someone out on the
[42:59] street but in this case there was there
[43:01] was no avoidance
[43:03] so
[43:04] um these pictures here show where
[43:07] the property owner eventually did come
[43:09] in and get a repair permit
[43:11] and they started fixing the bathroom
[43:13] and then all works seized the building
[43:17] official had determined that the scope
[43:19] of work in the permit was not adequate
[43:21] to bring the mobile home up to code
[43:24] okay I'm sorry I thought I I am but go
[43:27] ahead and finish
[43:28] um
[43:29] so
[43:31] the property owner decided instead of
[43:34] bringing it up to code they decided they
[43:35] were going to demolish it well that's
[43:37] been ongoing for eight or more months uh
[43:42] so
[43:43] without digging into my dig deep into my
[43:47] notes I do know there's a pending
[43:48] demolition permit on file
[43:51] to take you know three and unit five out
[43:54] so there were concerns when the park
[43:56] manager came and testified in August
[43:59] they were concerned about the type
[44:01] proximity and working around the
[44:04] neighbor's fence asking them if they
[44:06] could take it down so they could get
[44:07] equipment in it it sounds to me like
[44:09] they've just decided to take unit five
[44:11] out so they can get to unit 3 and take
[44:13] it out which is definitely that's two
[44:16] for one
[44:17] so that's that is pending I believe the
[44:21] only thing they're waiting on is the
[44:22] utility disconnects but I don't know why
[44:24] that's taking so long question for you
[44:28] um you had correspondence with the owner
[44:31] correct
[44:32] I spoke to the property manager
[44:36] personally I don't believe I've spoken
[44:38] to the property owner about this
[44:40] particular case
[44:42] I haven't spoken to the property owner
[44:44] probably since 2020.
[44:46] um most of our most of our
[44:48] correspondence is directly with the
[44:50] property man so this shouldn't come as a
[44:52] surprise to them
[44:54] no at least headquarters or you know
[44:58] that this is a problem right okay so and
[45:02] you sent
[45:04] letter after letter getting into getting
[45:07] to it now okay good all right I will say
[45:11] this because looking at the email
[45:12] correspondence then I looked through all
[45:14] this all of this stuff
[45:17] um the actually owner
[45:19] I think it's been changed twice now said
[45:21] here's the new representative send
[45:22] everything to them send everything to
[45:24] them so he's aware yeah yeah right and
[45:28] now he's shoving it off on exactly
[45:30] somebody else two other people
[45:34] so on September 23rd we pretty much just
[45:38] basically sent out a correction notice
[45:40] that had a list of a full list of the
[45:42] diff all the deficiencies
[45:44] um requiring that they correct them by
[45:46] October 25th 2021.
[45:50] when they failed to do so we sent out a
[45:53] formal notice of violation slash hearing
[45:55] on November 4th requiring compliance
[46:00] with the housing code by December 6 2021
[46:04] or there be a code enforcement Board
[46:06] hearing on December 13th
[46:08] so went to the code enforcement board
[46:11] and here is I've got copies of the
[46:14] notices the so the thing is
[46:17] the the
[46:19] address listed in Lake County
[46:22] those those notices were being returned
[46:24] under undeliverable as addressed so we
[46:26] also started mailing them to registered
[46:28] agent which is Hansel Rodriguez so the
[46:31] one that we mailed to Hansel Rodriguez
[46:34] it was delivered on November 6. at his
[46:37] office
[46:37] we also posted a copy of that notice of
[46:40] violation on the manager's door on the
[46:43] same day
[46:44] is their own site yes it's uh it's
[46:48] addressed 44 sharp Circle actually it's
[46:50] right it's the building right next to
[46:52] where if you drive in you got your
[46:53] mailboxes and and so forth is right next
[46:56] to the two-story kind of Warehouse
[46:59] uh so on December 13th 2021 the code
[47:03] enforcement board issued an order of
[47:04] enforcement for acquiring compliance by
[47:10] January 12 2022 or a fine of 250 per day
[47:14] of occurrence would be imposed
[47:16] so that deadline expired
[47:19] on January 28th 2022 the city issued a
[47:24] notice of non-compliance and I noticed a
[47:26] hearing for assessment of fine
[47:29] so that was held on February 14 2022
[47:34] where the code enforcement board
[47:35] officially issued the order imposing
[47:38] fine and that was recorded in public
[47:40] record on April 13 2022. in every
[47:43] correspondent set that we send we tell
[47:46] them they have the opportunity to come
[47:47] before the code enforcement board
[47:49] correct
[47:50] yes that's what that's what the notice
[47:52] and hearing is for okay and have they
[47:54] ever
[47:55] the um
[47:57] yes they have and let me get to the
[47:59] staff report
[48:02] I believe
[48:16] okay on the first hearing that was held
[48:18] on December 13th there was no
[48:20] representative the tenant the tenant
[48:22] showed up but the no representative from
[48:24] 44 Sharps LLC
[48:26] and then on
[48:34] I think the property manager did attend
[48:36] this one I don't have it into my note
[48:38] hold on yeah I do
[48:44] can I oh that's a good question real
[48:47] quick actually yes ma'am are we we're
[48:49] closing number three sharp Circle or
[48:52] number 44. no it's it's the lien is
[48:56] against the entire property it's all one
[48:58] product it's all one property it's the
[49:00] name of the corporate the LLC is 44
[49:02] Sharps Circle LLC
[49:07] thank you Eric that's it
[49:11] you know I know you're looking for that
[49:13] but what I'm trying to get is
[49:16] they've known from the beginning that
[49:19] there were deficiencies yes you
[49:20] corresponded with them they've gone in
[49:23] and they attempted to make some repairs
[49:27] right they as you see they saved off the
[49:30] um if you I didn't point it out because
[49:32] I don't believe I don't think I
[49:35] So within two days of us being in there
[49:38] they did get an electrician and they
[49:40] saved off all the wiring put them in
[49:42] metal boxes as you see in these photos
[49:45] well
[49:46] some of these photos here but so all the
[49:48] exposed wires the that plug outlet was
[49:51] not fixed but any of the exposed wires
[49:53] are hanging down they did put in metal
[49:56] boxes and cap them off
[50:00] so the issues
[50:03] they should have known
[50:05] with continued correspondence and
[50:08] communication with you right that all of
[50:10] the issues hadn't been taken care of
[50:12] correct correct so it should come as no
[50:15] surprise to anyone
[50:18] that the City of Eustis code enforcement
[50:21] board meant business right okay all
[50:23] right
[50:24] is there more
[50:26] bold I didn't witness any
[50:29] some of it looks kind of dark like that
[50:31] might be how long and and you might not
[50:34] know this and I don't know if anybody
[50:35] who lived in this unit is anybody here
[50:37] that lived in this unit
[50:39] only Donna Manning she lived in it she
[50:41] was the complainant but before that I
[50:44] don't know who owned it or how long did
[50:46] you live like this man you can't do that
[50:48] oh no I can't all right I just wondered
[50:50] how long this has been do you know how
[50:51] long this has been going on
[50:53] all I know is the date that we receive
[50:55] the complaint okay
[50:57] I can tell you that Donna Manning has
[50:58] filled out a card to speak there you go
[51:00] that's what all I knew she did that's
[51:02] why and I'm sorry when she stands up you
[51:04] can do it okay
[51:13] and the concern that
[51:15] um
[51:17] well the issue that
[51:19] they're trying to raise is they didn't
[51:21] get noticed they didn't have enough
[51:23] notice yes they're raising the concern
[51:26] that they didn't get notice about the
[51:28] Foreclosure hearing
[51:30] but the Florida Statutes doesn't require
[51:33] any notification for the Foreclosure it
[51:36] just simply states that the code enforce
[51:38] the after an order is imposed the city
[51:42] can record that in public record as a
[51:44] lien against the property and after 90
[51:47] days the code enforcement board can
[51:49] authorize a City attorney to foreclose
[51:51] on the unpaid lien
[51:53] okay and so all the notification
[51:55] requirements start at the beginning we
[51:57] do notice of uh we do requires it's like
[52:01] if when a code enforcement officer
[52:02] identifies a violation we're required by
[52:04] a statute to notify the property owner
[52:07] of the violation and give them a
[52:08] reasonable time to correct it and if
[52:10] they don't then we schedule a hearing
[52:12] and that's when we're we're required to
[52:15] send out the certified notices return
[52:17] receipt postings hand delivery any way
[52:21] you can try to get get notice out to the
[52:24] property owner
[52:25] and then that's for the first hearing
[52:28] now this there's no there's no
[52:30] requirement for a second Hearing in
[52:32] chapter 162 but we do a second hearing
[52:36] for notice of non-compliance for due
[52:39] process reasons I think it's to comply
[52:40] with Florida Statutes 219 is that the
[52:43] due process section yes and it's also
[52:45] chapter 162. well yes
[52:48] um
[52:49] so
[52:52] then we have that hearing and that's
[52:54] pretty much the last hearing until we
[52:57] bring it back to the code enforcement
[52:58] board for consideration of foreclosure
[53:00] and traditionally we've never given
[53:02] notice for that
[53:04] and and
[53:07] our correspondence with them they know
[53:10] that foreclosure is going to be a
[53:13] possibility correct so in the notice of
[53:17] non-compliance
[53:19] that was issued
[53:24] on January 28th
[53:26] all our letters go out with a cover
[53:28] letter and here it says to stop accrual
[53:31] of the daily fine the property owner
[53:33] must the property must be brought into
[53:35] compliance if compliance is not met and
[53:37] the accrued fine is not paid within
[53:39] three months of the date of the
[53:40] recording the order of the recording of the order imposing fine the
[53:46] property may be subject to foreclosure
[53:48] proceedings and sold to enforce the lean
[53:50] January 28th of this year yes sir okay
[53:56] and the
[53:57] discovered by the statue everything's
[53:59] yes and I did speak to Mr Arbiter
[54:01] yesterday about this um and statutorily
[54:04] we've complied with everything that
[54:06] we're required to do we're not required
[54:07] to provide additional notice uh he's
[54:09] asking for something that is in excess
[54:11] of what we're required to provide the
[54:14] property owner so as far as due process
[54:16] is concerned we're covered now of course
[54:18] it's this is up to the commission it's
[54:20] completely discretionary if you wanted
[54:22] to push this off to the next meeting
[54:24] because this is what he's asked for
[54:25] however it's not an opportunity for him
[54:26] to challenge the findings of the code
[54:28] enforcement board that's already been
[54:29] determined and that was part of the
[54:31] order that was recorded and is the lien
[54:33] against the property simply it would I
[54:37] guess be an opportunity just to try to
[54:38] avoid the expense of the Foreclosure
[54:41] should they somehow comply in the future
[54:45] I am you know it's it surprises me that
[54:49] uh you know we give them all this time
[54:51] to to fix it and they don't do anything
[54:54] but they want us they want us to give
[54:56] them more time to do
[54:58] yeah yeah I'm not right and the attorney
[55:00] did attend the August 8th uh code
[55:03] enforcement Board hearing there were
[55:05] some other items on the agenda for Sharp
[55:08] Circle that day so their attorney was
[55:10] present he asked the board for
[55:13] um continuance before they considered
[55:16] doing a motion for foreclosure which the
[55:18] code enforcement board denied his
[55:20] request so you said there's 18 current
[55:23] there's eight no there have been 18
[55:24] violations
[55:26] since February
[55:28] 2019 when occurring okay so right now
[55:33] um I also put some
[55:36] other open and unresolved violations so
[55:40] there's a minimum housing code violation
[55:42] against unit number 26. there's a
[55:45] violation for an unsafe power pole and
[55:48] there's an active code violation for the
[55:50] condition of the roads is that powerful
[55:52] still leaning today I'm sorry is that
[55:54] power pole still leaning uh it's it's
[55:57] still propped up they had not they have
[55:59] not fixed and we walked that property
[56:01] July 1st and we know we told them so
[56:04] what happened on July 1st we had a storm
[56:07] come through the night after we walked
[56:09] through it and the power pole that was
[56:11] right next to the the unit that is at
[56:15] the main entrance that was blown over
[56:17] during the storm
[56:19] so they fixed that one immediately I
[56:22] drove through on July 5th
[56:24] and I'm actually there it is right thank
[56:28] you yeah
[56:29] so on July 8th when I'm driving by I see
[56:32] this 2x4 propping up this power pole and
[56:35] I'm thinking what's going on here so I
[56:36] get out and I touch it and just from
[56:39] touching it almost fell over so that's
[56:42] what I called the building inspector out
[56:43] I had him take a look at it and I have
[56:45] to resist a life safety issue and he
[56:47] says absolutely so
[56:50] this is steel like this yes yes
[56:54] been that way since July 8th so there's
[56:57] been a lien recorded on that one
[56:59] recently
[57:00] for
[57:05] so that's 528. here Eric this this is a
[57:09] public safety and a health hazard and
[57:12] the attorney has told us that we have
[57:15] that I can ask for this place to be
[57:17] totally shut down and I'm willing to
[57:19] sign in order to shut it down if they
[57:21] can't get it together right it's
[57:23] absolutely ridiculous
[57:26] that we're allowing this to go on that
[57:28] we're allowing our citizens to live like
[57:30] this
[57:31] so if this isn't done quickly I will
[57:35] sign an order to shut the place down now
[57:37] we're going to find places for people to
[57:39] live yes but this is absolutely
[57:40] ridiculous and for an attorney to stand
[57:43] in here
[57:44] or to even contact our attorneys and ask
[57:46] for a delay on this is absolutely
[57:49] asinine I apologize for that but it's
[57:52] crazy it's gone on too long
[57:54] so what I what I have to say is you know
[57:58] at this point at this point
[58:03] the city knows
[58:05] how bad this place is and if something
[58:08] doesn't happen right away the city uh
[58:10] Bears some of the liability so I think
[58:13] we need to socialize we're just with
[58:16] code enforcement with the chief with the
[58:18] city manager it smells of mold and
[58:20] mildew it smells of raw sewage and it's
[58:24] not the resident's fault it is an owner
[58:27] that is doesn't live here he doesn't
[58:30] care about these people all he cares
[58:32] about is collecting money at every month
[58:35] from them
[58:37] and and let one of them be late
[58:42] oh 10 days and they're looking to be
[58:44] evicted not only that we're just very
[58:46] blessed no one has been hurt or died
[58:48] yeah exactly and so we need to do
[58:50] something before it does happen uh
[58:52] cricket police chief real quick I'll
[58:54] keep it brief this is probably the
[58:55] number one problem right now in the City
[58:58] of Eustis it is it is disgusting it is
[59:01] horrible that residents have to live
[59:03] like that this guy's a bully I talked to
[59:05] a resident yesterday that he evicted a
[59:08] lot of issues and he's all about he's a
[59:10] typical slumlord greed Merchant and he
[59:13] has a sense of entitlement and he sits
[59:15] back down in Miami or South Florida
[59:16] laughing at us while he so we this is I
[59:19] got dep coming to work with us the State
[59:21] Department of Environmental Protection
[59:22] we're going to go after this the only
[59:24] thing this guy's gonna understand is
[59:25] when you hit him in a pocketbook and and
[59:27] that's what we have to do we're not
[59:28] going to let up this is our number one
[59:29] priority what we're doing so uh it's
[59:32] very it's very bad out there and I don't
[59:33] want to see these poor residents have to
[59:35] deal with that he jacked all their rents
[59:37] up almost doubled their rents because
[59:39] what's going on in the country people
[59:40] like talk he doubled their rents the
[59:42] park manager
[59:43] you can't even talk to her she's nasty
[59:46] she's rude she's abrasive
[59:48] and uh she didn't want to deal with me
[59:50] so but smart manager live on no she
[59:54] doesn't oh she doesn't oh I think she
[59:56] should have to she was at the cold board
[59:57] with her attorney and all this guy's
[59:59] trying to do is hire attorneys to muddy
[1:00:01] the waters and and do all that but the
[1:00:03] bottom line is it's not going to stop us
[1:00:06] what can we do we're coming after him so
[1:00:08] we're coming after him with the steak
[1:00:09] and everything together
[1:00:13] Mr chairman if you have anything to add
[1:00:15] from the code enforcement side
[1:00:18] so um hold on one second Alan do you
[1:00:22] have anything from your side you're fine
[1:00:23] then for the record Alan Paskowski chair
[1:00:26] of the code enforcement board I've been
[1:00:28] on the board for seven years where do
[1:00:30] you want me to start on 44 sharp Circle
[1:00:33] I've we've had numerous hearings for
[1:00:36] residents who are victims of this
[1:00:39] property in the abuseful management
[1:00:41] non-concern or care for their health
[1:00:44] welfare or safety
[1:00:45] we have done everything that we can
[1:00:48] within the law
[1:00:50] provided them ample opportunity to
[1:00:53] correct situations
[1:00:56] poll that posed an eminent danger we
[1:01:00] ordered it to be fixed within two days I
[1:01:03] believe there one or two days
[1:01:05] and the notice was hand delivered to the
[1:01:08] property right after the code
[1:01:09] enforcement board's ruling
[1:01:12] at the last code enforcement board they
[1:01:14] brought an attorney with a recorder that
[1:01:17] would challenge the code enforcement
[1:01:18] board with respect to not respecting due
[1:01:22] process
[1:01:24] we have never
[1:01:26] on any occasion not given anybody who
[1:01:29] appears in front of the code enforcement
[1:01:31] board due process we have obtained and
[1:01:34] listened to numerous complaints by
[1:01:38] residents of the property who are forced
[1:01:41] to live in property like this who are
[1:01:43] then punitively dealt with because
[1:01:47] they've complained to the city because
[1:01:49] our board has taken action against them
[1:01:51] and the manager has personally appeared
[1:01:54] the new property manager they've had
[1:01:55] several new property managers appeared
[1:01:58] at the last at least two that I'm aware
[1:02:00] of and uh
[1:02:02] mayor Holland I couldn't agree with you
[1:02:04] more
[1:02:05] this is not what the City of Eustis or
[1:02:08] its residents whether they're renters or
[1:02:10] property owners deserve or should be
[1:02:13] subjected to
[1:02:14] answer any questions if you have any do
[1:02:16] you have a question and I don't know if
[1:02:17] you know this off the top of your head
[1:02:19] how many if if we did
[1:02:22] the shutdown how many people will be
[1:02:25] displaced I really couldn't answer that
[1:02:28] Miss God
[1:02:32] I really don't know how many residents
[1:02:40] the mobile home park has we could go
[1:02:43] through and count the number of units
[1:02:46] but as far as how many would be
[1:02:48] displaced away for me to tell you well
[1:02:50] we um I I do know there's 119 pads out
[1:02:54] there I don't know if every pad has a
[1:02:56] unit on it but it's 119. that's about
[1:02:59] there's only maybe three pads
[1:03:02] okay one another thing if I may add okay
[1:03:05] I know the commission is aware of this
[1:03:07] but as I understand it the uh the reason
[1:03:12] that they're fighting us is because once
[1:03:15] a trailer is condemned the plane is
[1:03:18] placed against it and we order it to be
[1:03:21] demolished it cannot be replaced because
[1:03:23] they are over their density
[1:03:26] and so that's one of the big issues that
[1:03:29] their attorney and others have tried to
[1:03:31] confront the code enforcement board with
[1:03:33] is because once we order a unit that is
[1:03:37] as disgusting as those you've seen to be
[1:03:40] knocked down they cannot replace it so
[1:03:42] that's a loss of income obviously as she
[1:03:44] said it's
[1:03:47] when I spoke to the day that we were out
[1:03:50] there and I was speaking to miss Morales
[1:03:52] and I was just brought up the condition
[1:03:55] around some of the parks why the park
[1:03:57] management isn't making sure making sure
[1:03:59] it's residents are keeping the area
[1:04:00] around their mobile homes clean and
[1:04:02] sanitary and she told me that's a city's
[1:04:04] job
[1:04:06] um so how many how many um
[1:04:10] how many of these trailers have you been invited into oh
[1:04:15] just uh just number three and number six
[1:04:18] I mean it's number three and number 26.
[1:04:20] is it possible to do and I don't know if
[1:04:22] this is something we want to look at
[1:04:23] doing is it possible to do like a little
[1:04:26] town hall meeting
[1:04:27] with them with just Sharp's Park to talk
[1:04:31] to them and to possibly get into all of
[1:04:34] these units well that's something that I
[1:04:36] want that's one of the focuses that
[1:04:37] we're going to have I sent on July 5th I
[1:04:41] sent Miss Morales an email asking for a
[1:04:43] list of all of all the park owners so I
[1:04:47] could determine which which mobile homes
[1:04:49] are privately owned and which ones the
[1:04:51] park owns yes and I didn't receive
[1:04:54] anything when I when I'd hand delivered
[1:04:55] that life notice of Life Safety
[1:04:57] violation I asked her about it and she
[1:04:59] pretty much told me that I'm going to
[1:05:00] have to go to the vice president or you
[1:05:04] know the
[1:05:05] she it was not within her authority to
[1:05:07] provide that information I would have to
[1:05:09] go to the property owner Hansel
[1:05:11] Rodriguez or the the director of
[1:05:13] operations to to get it
[1:05:17] you can't because it's all in the land
[1:05:19] industry and you can't it's not like
[1:05:21] real property a mobile home is
[1:05:24] um defined under State Statute as a
[1:05:26] vehicle that's licensed through the
[1:05:28] Department of Motor Vehicles so my
[1:05:30] office
[1:05:31] no they don't on the land so my office
[1:05:34] can't go you know for real property we
[1:05:36] can go to the Lake County Property
[1:05:38] Appraisers website
[1:05:40] search it find who the owner of record
[1:05:42] is and send notice out to them well for
[1:05:45] mobile for mobile homes we don't have we
[1:05:47] don't have that capability we don't
[1:05:48] there's no way for us to find you know
[1:05:50] we could run the tag but I bet half the tags in that mobile home are
[1:05:54] expired yeah it seems like we have a
[1:05:56] good representative group tonight we
[1:05:58] should be able to give us some feedback
[1:05:59] yeah and be able to get the word out to
[1:06:01] everyone else yeah yeah
[1:06:03] I would I I do want to ask um so we have two types of units in here we
[1:06:08] have units that are owned by the
[1:06:10] occupants and then we have units that
[1:06:12] are owned by the park that they rent out
[1:06:14] if we were to take code enforcement
[1:06:16] action against a unit that is owner
[1:06:18] occupied is it the owner occupant that
[1:06:21] is being cited or is it the property
[1:06:24] owner that's under Florida statute the
[1:06:26] city cannot
[1:06:28] um impose fines against a park owner for
[1:06:30] a violation that's created by a mobile
[1:06:32] home owner
[1:06:34] so it would be against the mobile
[1:06:35] homeowner yes okay but we don't know how
[1:06:39] many
[1:06:40] well like I'm sorry we don't know how
[1:06:43] many 44.
[1:06:46] structure is crumbling and if the
[1:06:49] infrastructure is what's causing the
[1:06:51] problem of the of the mobile home
[1:06:53] planner we can't hold them so like the
[1:06:56] chief was talking about the odor I think
[1:06:58] everyone picked it up picked up on it um
[1:07:01] when they when they walk through so
[1:07:03] there is near 134 they had to do a
[1:07:07] massive uh sewer line repair and they
[1:07:09] had to bypass a bunch and they cut a big
[1:07:11] trench and ran a hundred and something
[1:07:13] feet of or relocated so right where the
[1:07:16] lift station is all of that those lines
[1:07:20] come into a manhole and if you stand
[1:07:22] right next to the
[1:07:24] in the carport right next to it you can
[1:07:27] smell the odor of sewage I mean it's
[1:07:28] very prominent I asked the
[1:07:31] um I asked the property manager could
[1:07:33] you please get a plumber out here and
[1:07:35] find out why there's such an odor coming
[1:07:38] out of this and she says oh we'll look
[1:07:40] into it but they never follow there's a
[1:07:42] lot of flooding in there too every time
[1:07:44] it rains that's that's a cricket police
[1:07:46] chief that's where dep is going to come
[1:07:47] in with the state for those those uh
[1:07:49] human waste feces there's feces coming
[1:07:51] up out of the ground out of pipes and
[1:07:53] when when the state comes in and shuts
[1:07:56] them down that's you know that's what's
[1:07:57] gonna it's gonna take that and the
[1:07:59] residents organizing yeah and and uh not
[1:08:02] tolerating this type of stuff
[1:08:04] thank you let's let's do this let's go
[1:08:07] ahead and hear from a few residents what
[1:08:08] I'm going to ask is if you try if you
[1:08:10] come up we want to hear you I think you
[1:08:13] know where we are as a commission at
[1:08:15] this point try not to repeat yourselves
[1:08:17] we do have a good deal of stuff to go we
[1:08:20] care believe me uh if if I could ask if I really wanted to push the issue I'd
[1:08:26] have the attorney do something tonight
[1:08:28] to where I'd close the place down but
[1:08:31] then it's going to displace every one of
[1:08:33] you and and I can't do that I I've got
[1:08:36] to know that you all are safe and you
[1:08:37] have a place to live
[1:08:39] um but
[1:08:40] um let's hear from a few of you Tom will
[1:08:43] call you up in just a minute
[1:08:46] um like I said please just try not to
[1:08:48] repeat too much of what you're what
[1:08:49] trivia is saying Tom go ahead all right
[1:08:52] I've got a card from Donna Manning
[1:08:55] Donna you knew you would be first
[1:08:57] [Laughter]
[1:09:06] hi I'm Donna Manning and I am the tenant
[1:09:09] from 3 and 26.
[1:09:11] so um
[1:09:13] I moved in there on May 1st of 2021.
[1:09:18] I was promised the bathroom would be
[1:09:20] renovated within two to three weeks
[1:09:23] I gave them until August 4th I contacted
[1:09:26] the owner at that time Hansel Rodriguez
[1:09:28] advising him that if something wasn't
[1:09:31] done I was going to be forced to file
[1:09:33] complaint with code enforcement I was
[1:09:35] completely ignored by him
[1:09:37] another gentleman named Dave cozy which
[1:09:39] is the
[1:09:41] vice president operations or something
[1:09:42] at that time
[1:09:44] so then I went ahead and filed the
[1:09:45] complaint I had no idea
[1:09:48] the amount of danger that I was in until
[1:09:49] Eric came out
[1:09:51] I was lied to
[1:09:53] about the wires from the property
[1:09:56] manager she says oh no those are dead
[1:09:57] wires don't worry about it
[1:09:59] I couldn't touch those wires my guests
[1:10:02] could have touched those wires and in
[1:10:03] fact one of the park employees at that
[1:10:06] time came down and went to cut the one
[1:10:09] down that you've seen in the bathroom
[1:10:10] hanging to the floor and it was like the
[1:10:12] Fourth of July
[1:10:13] because she
[1:10:15] the park manager told us that they
[1:10:17] weren't alive she lied she could have
[1:10:19] got somebody killed
[1:10:21] you how many how many uh
[1:10:24] kids are in the in the uh in the trailer
[1:10:28] park how many how many kids children
[1:10:30] there's really not many children in
[1:10:32] there it's supposed to be a 55 and older
[1:10:34] okay now how many visit
[1:10:36] and have you ever had any kids to visit
[1:10:38] yours I have um a good friend of mine
[1:10:41] that has brought his daughter there a
[1:10:42] couple of times she was five at the time
[1:10:45] okay yeah all right okay question you you you don't have dance if you want
[1:10:49] to how much is your rent now
[1:10:52] you would have track okay I started out
[1:10:54] at number three the rental agreement was
[1:10:57] 541 or 551 I'm sorry
[1:11:01] um when it got condemned they moved me
[1:11:03] into 20s they didn't move me into 26 I
[1:11:05] moved myself they did nothing for me
[1:11:09] um and then they told me it was 5 41.
[1:11:13] the property manager the current
[1:11:14] property manager filed an eviction
[1:11:16] against me on the 12th of September
[1:11:19] stating that my monthly rent is 524.
[1:11:23] it was dismissed by the judge because
[1:11:26] it included somebody else's paperwork so
[1:11:29] the judges missed it she went and
[1:11:31] refiled it
[1:11:32] the following week following Monday now
[1:11:34] it's 5 42 so she doesn't even know so
[1:11:36] how do I know what my rent is Hispanic
[1:11:39] what does that include
[1:11:41] what what does your rent include it's
[1:11:43] supposed they do pay the electric okay
[1:11:46] um and it's supposed to include Lawn
[1:11:48] Care my grass right now is
[1:11:50] I know what about water you pay your own
[1:11:54] water or what
[1:11:55] um no yeah we pay 67 a month water
[1:11:57] that's the base rents like 475 and then
[1:12:00] 67 water do you pay 67 to the city or to
[1:12:04] the yeah we pay it all to the park you
[1:12:07] pay it to the park it's it's a Master
[1:12:09] Meter so one meter
[1:12:11] um 67 what do you pay
[1:12:13] 60
[1:12:15] 67. 67 a month there's 119 units in
[1:12:20] there but
[1:12:21] probably I'm going to say at least 10 to
[1:12:23] 12 of them are
[1:12:25] dumps
[1:12:27] they're abandoned they're rat infested
[1:12:29] causing other tenants to have rats
[1:12:44] it's on the other side of the street
[1:12:55] yeah she's she's one of the previous
[1:12:57] managers there and when she was the
[1:12:59] manager there somebody came down from
[1:13:01] either Jacksonville or Gainesville or
[1:13:03] something some inspectors 26 sharp
[1:13:06] Circle and 209 sharp Circle have no VIN
[1:13:09] number on them they're not titled
[1:13:11] and they can never be sold
[1:13:15] but I I'm thinking that maybe because
[1:13:17] they're on their property they have the
[1:13:19] right to rent them I don't know that I
[1:13:20] don't know the laws
[1:13:23] um
[1:13:25] so I'm not sure how that works but those
[1:13:27] are the only two rentals and I did
[1:13:28] receive
[1:13:29] a letter from their attorney Mr Arbiter
[1:13:33] on um the well
[1:13:35] I about a prohibitive practice case
[1:13:37] against them they turned my electric off
[1:13:39] the week of Christmas last year
[1:13:41] the the previous management yeah no
[1:13:43] warning nothing 40 degrees at night no
[1:13:46] heat nothing
[1:13:48] so I found a prohibited practice case
[1:13:49] against them and I settled out of court
[1:13:51] with them
[1:13:53] three days later I got a letter in the
[1:13:55] mail saying we are no longer renting it
[1:13:57] after September 30th you need to be out
[1:13:59] on September 30th
[1:14:01] after all they've put me through and now
[1:14:02] they throw him out on the street because
[1:14:04] all of a sudden it's not September 30th
[1:14:07] of this month that you've yes ma'am
[1:14:09] you're going to be evicted I got it I
[1:14:10] was posted on my door today from the
[1:14:12] sheriffs
[1:14:13] I have a question
[1:14:16] um
[1:14:19] is an entity that does not have a water
[1:14:22] service let's just say like you know we
[1:14:24] have our own water and we pay when
[1:14:26] they're collecting are legally is the
[1:14:29] park allowed to make money
[1:14:31] off of their water
[1:14:33] I'd have to check um normally they
[1:14:35] charge what what the actual expense is
[1:14:38] um there might be a minor fee that they
[1:14:40] can charge for administration normally
[1:14:41] but I don't know about making money
[1:14:43] that's not something
[1:14:45] yeah every Public Services I can double
[1:14:47] check
[1:14:48] we have one meter how do you yeah yeah
[1:14:51] every time I pay 67 dollars
[1:14:54] let's just say they have one meter and
[1:14:57] the bill is you know 500 a month I'm just using it
[1:15:02] for for round numbers
[1:15:03] for whatever you you
[1:15:06] to my knowledge I I don't think they're
[1:15:08] allowed to make money it doesn't sound
[1:15:10] like they should no it's again I
[1:15:13] understand your administration fee but
[1:15:14] you know what exactly yes you know where
[1:15:16] I'm going with that yeah a lot of that
[1:15:17] does cover a common areas where if they
[1:15:19] have Landscaping I'm not sure what the
[1:15:21] circumstances are but obviously the
[1:15:24] charge could include common areas as
[1:15:26] well which may not be just for the unit
[1:15:27] but it's typically something that is
[1:15:29] Administrative do you all have
[1:15:31] irrigation
[1:15:43] if there is an administration fee I'd
[1:15:45] like to know exactly what that entails
[1:15:47] you know truthfully what I think we need
[1:15:49] to do and I'm not trying to cut any of
[1:15:52] you off we're dealing with just the
[1:15:54] foreclosure on this right now we we need
[1:15:57] to have a community meeting
[1:16:00] um and and let's do it that way I'm not
[1:16:02] trying to stop any of you from talking
[1:16:04] tonight but I think what we need to do
[1:16:07] is just go ahead and deal with what's in
[1:16:09] front of us
[1:16:11] um I think we can get ourselves into a
[1:16:12] lot of trouble if we don't just deal
[1:16:14] with this right now
[1:16:16] um and then get with we'll get with Eric
[1:16:18] and we'll come out we'll post a notice
[1:16:20] of when we can all get back together and
[1:16:23] to make it easier on you all we might
[1:16:25] just try to have it maybe at the Chamber
[1:16:27] of Commerce building in the back room
[1:16:30] um and have an open meeting where you
[1:16:32] all can come as um uh residents to talk
[1:16:36] to us I've got one question before I let
[1:16:38] anybody sit down is is the manager of
[1:16:41] the park here tonight is the attorney
[1:16:43] here tonight or is there a
[1:16:45] representative from the owner here
[1:16:46] tonight yeah
[1:16:48] answers a lot of my questions he did Mr
[1:16:51] Arbiter stated that he had a conflict
[1:16:52] because he was just alerted as far as
[1:16:55] today's tonight's meeting
[1:16:57] um and he is in Davie so he would have
[1:16:59] to travel about four hours to be here
[1:17:01] tonight so
[1:17:03] um
[1:17:04] he has he has a manager that represents
[1:17:07] them that could have been here as well
[1:17:08] so I just wanted to be clear I
[1:17:11] appreciate that the only problem with
[1:17:12] that is because these tenants have
[1:17:15] watched me be retaliated against for 18
[1:17:17] months now on that part they're afraid because if you speak up
[1:17:21] you get evicted
[1:17:25] I just want to let everyone know I put a
[1:17:28] stack of my business cards on the table
[1:17:29] by the front door so as you're going out
[1:17:31] if you would like one grab it
[1:17:36] you're gonna have to come up to do it
[1:17:38] and I did want to answer somebody's
[1:17:40] question and ask if there was mold in
[1:17:42] the unit yes there was my cat passed
[1:17:43] away from it and now now as you can see
[1:17:46] I'm having breathing problems so I'm
[1:17:47] like yes
[1:17:49] your name please guys I just want to uh
[1:17:53] Carlos
[1:17:56] um I've only been there for a few short
[1:17:58] months
[1:17:59] um I actually own and bought the trailer
[1:18:02] with everything I had
[1:18:05] uh because I was living in a hotel so I
[1:18:07] had no choice
[1:18:09] um I don't have a lease I don't know who
[1:18:12] else has the leash but I don't have a
[1:18:13] lease
[1:18:15] I don't I don't have a lease and they
[1:18:17] have changed my rent every single month
[1:18:19] since I've been there
[1:18:23] I just want to let everybody know that I
[1:18:25] don't have a lease
[1:18:27] all right
[1:18:30] I don't I don't know what my rights are
[1:18:32] without Elise
[1:18:34] um and one more thing Lake Shore Drive
[1:18:38] sir if you could please
[1:18:40] 30 miles an hour without the remote
[1:18:44] it's crazy it's crazy sure so I'm just
[1:18:48] going to smash right through my my place
[1:18:50] I just wanted to make that I don't have
[1:18:52] a lease thank you well as far as Elise
[1:18:54] is concerned you can't have a motion
[1:18:56] month please you're not you're not
[1:18:57] required to have a lease in writing per
[1:18:59] se I don't want to get into
[1:19:01] the the legal issues that their owner
[1:19:04] that you know shark might have it so
[1:19:06] that's concerned but there are
[1:19:07] month-to-month leases and that could be
[1:19:09] what's being applied now there are
[1:19:11] requirements and obviously that would
[1:19:13] have to be it's case specific so I would
[1:19:14] not feel comfortable you know saying
[1:19:16] anything uh on the record about that
[1:19:18] because it depends on on each unit but
[1:19:20] there is there's such a thing as month
[1:19:22] to month
[1:19:23] on the folks that uh if they try to
[1:19:26] retaliate is there anything we can do as
[1:19:29] a city
[1:19:31] um to stop them from kicking these folks
[1:19:33] out of their residence until we can come
[1:19:35] to an agreement
[1:19:37] we could um look into because of the
[1:19:41] safety issues possibly enjoining them
[1:19:43] from from taking action against the actual occupants okay we'll go ahead
[1:19:49] and start checking on that absolutely
[1:19:50] because we're going to have to do
[1:19:52] something yeah so it sounds like most of
[1:19:55] the mobile homes are home yes which is
[1:19:59] totally opposite from what my
[1:20:04] so if you foreclose on the property
[1:20:08] underneath
[1:20:10] the performance it's a it's a it's a
[1:20:13] mess SMS but right now
[1:20:18] people are going to die out there if we
[1:20:20] don't step in it's getting worse
[1:20:23] um do we know if they're owners that are
[1:20:25] actually selling
[1:20:27] their
[1:20:29] mobile homes 2 44 sharp now
[1:20:34] okay yeah another question I have is can
[1:20:37] they move to another place if they find
[1:20:39] if we can find another mobile home park
[1:20:42] where they can move their homes to is
[1:20:44] that is that most of those places are
[1:20:46] not movable they're on wheels off
[1:20:54] so looking at
[1:20:55] him
[1:20:59] all right
[1:21:01] let's go ahead and bring it back to you
[1:21:04] um if you want to close this part and
[1:21:06] we'll do what we need to do all right so
[1:21:07] we're going to go ahead and close public
[1:21:08] comment I I'm I'm sorry mayor I do have
[1:21:12] one more card
[1:21:13] who do we have uh it's just someone
[1:21:16] who's identified as Dawn
[1:21:18] John do you need to speak or do you are
[1:21:20] you going to let us okay come on up real
[1:21:23] quick
[1:21:26] thank you
[1:21:33] I just want to briefly say too because I
[1:21:36] am a tenant there I bought my mobile
[1:21:40] two years ago after Mr Rodriguez had
[1:21:42] bought the property
[1:21:44] um I moved from out of state to be close
[1:21:46] to my mother
[1:21:47] and supposedly reading in the paper the
[1:21:50] improvements and bringing things stuff
[1:21:52] up to code was kind of one of the
[1:21:53] reasons plus being low income
[1:21:56] that was something I could afford even
[1:21:58] though it was a fixer-upper and I'm
[1:22:00] pretty handy
[1:22:02] um nobody has seen Mr Rodriguez since he
[1:22:06] bought the property I know that there's
[1:22:08] been other tenants that have reached out
[1:22:10] to try to get a hold of him about
[1:22:11] certain things that needed fixing
[1:22:14] updated and nobody's got no responses
[1:22:18] um
[1:22:19] as far as that electric pole that tipped
[1:22:21] over I was the one that actually came up
[1:22:23] across that after I went and checked my
[1:22:24] mail and was coming through the park and
[1:22:27] I noticed it laying down so I kept my
[1:22:28] car parked there and I called Duke
[1:22:31] Energy and different things to try to
[1:22:33] get somebody come out because that area
[1:22:35] is always flooded when it rains then
[1:22:38] Poles get rotted after so many years and
[1:22:40] it just tipped right over
[1:22:42] you know
[1:22:43] just being you know access to that
[1:22:46] um
[1:22:47] because lot rent has been rising in the
[1:22:50] two years I've been there it started out
[1:22:51] at like 3 45 when I moved in two years
[1:22:54] ago as of last month with the base rent
[1:22:58] the water sewered lawn
[1:23:02] um two years back taxes were being
[1:23:04] charged for uh almost 18 a month for a
[1:23:08] year
[1:23:09] to pay property taxes of the past two
[1:23:12] years
[1:23:12] has been added onto our flat rate
[1:23:15] so mine right now is 570 dollars a month
[1:23:19] I make about a thousand three hundred
[1:23:21] months I'm being evicted next week
[1:23:23] because I cannot afford the lot rent
[1:23:27] and I'll be homeless because I have no
[1:23:29] place to go
[1:23:30] and there's like four other people in
[1:23:32] the park that are also being evicted
[1:23:34] because we can't afford and we're
[1:23:36] getting behind on a rent
[1:23:40] and I live next to the three empty ones
[1:23:43] by the railroad tracks for two years
[1:23:46] they don't keep the grass and weeds
[1:23:48] around the trailer kept up I tried doing
[1:23:50] it I get full of splinters and Spurs and
[1:23:53] everything from the weeds and the little
[1:23:55] Sanders
[1:23:56] the grass is now getting up to our hips
[1:23:59] and if we do it I asked the manager for
[1:24:03] um a discount on my rent because I'm
[1:24:06] doing my own lawn even if it's sweet
[1:24:07] with a weeder she said no you're doing
[1:24:09] that out of the kindness of your heart
[1:24:12] okay that I can't get a discount on my
[1:24:15] rent even though it was in the main
[1:24:16] paperwork we get
[1:24:18] I live next to those three empty
[1:24:20] trailers for two years
[1:24:22] I am the one that went and re-boarded up
[1:24:25] number three because of homelessness
[1:24:28] constantly going in there in the middle
[1:24:30] of the night to do whatever they do and
[1:24:33] how can we sleep restfully when we don't
[1:24:36] know what's going on next door to us
[1:24:38] whether someone's gonna break in or
[1:24:40] whatever or the place is going to burn
[1:24:42] down because who knows what they're
[1:24:44] doing
[1:24:44] it took me a half a day with a herniated
[1:24:47] disc to board that trailer up completely
[1:24:50] so they could not get in there
[1:24:55] and a lot of the owners most people own
[1:24:59] their trailers there and what he was
[1:25:01] saying about coming in to inspect
[1:25:03] everybody's place that the owners would
[1:25:06] be the ones to get and find if there's
[1:25:07] any no that's a problem we were just
[1:25:10] concentrating on trying to find the ones
[1:25:12] that were owned by the mobile home park
[1:25:13] okay because owners we were trying to
[1:25:16] find out who the ones were so we could
[1:25:18] separate those out and do a process of
[1:25:20] elimination and find out which ones the
[1:25:23] park actually are because I would say
[1:25:24] that the owners would probably be
[1:25:26] reluctant to let you know them come in
[1:25:27] and check because who knows how long
[1:25:29] they've been there and with our limited
[1:25:31] income it's hard to try to make
[1:25:33] improvements
[1:25:35] and I would be glad to see something
[1:25:37] being done all right thank you so much
[1:25:39] thank you well I'll close the public
[1:25:41] comment section all right Commissioners
[1:25:44] we have the force resolution number
[1:25:46] 22-68 what's the will of our commission
[1:25:49] so moved second all right first and
[1:25:51] second any further discussion
[1:25:54] roll call please
[1:25:56] commissioner Smith
[1:25:58] commissioner Cobb aye commissioner
[1:26:00] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor
[1:26:03] Holland aye
[1:26:05] folks we're going to work on this so
[1:26:07] bear with us Eric Martin we'll start
[1:26:10] we'll get you a date where we can all
[1:26:12] meet and sit and talk for a little bit
[1:26:13] okay and we will publicize that meeting
[1:26:16] so that all the commission can be there
[1:26:18] and we can interact with you a little
[1:26:20] bit better okay thank you and I'm very
[1:26:23] sorry
[1:26:24] it's heartbreaking Madam attorney
[1:26:27] next we have resolution 22-69 a
[1:26:30] resolution of the city Commission of the
[1:26:32] City of Eustis Florida approving a code
[1:26:34] enforcement board action to authorize
[1:26:35] the City attorney to foreclose on two
[1:26:37] outstanding code enforcement liens
[1:26:39] recorded against 15 hassles on the
[1:26:40] street
[1:26:42] so mayor we do not have a formal
[1:26:45] presentation uh this is a case where
[1:26:47] we've had some issues uh some issues
[1:26:50] with uh water customer service and the
[1:26:52] water meter I think at this point it is
[1:26:58] um occupied by
[1:27:00] squatters basically and we're
[1:27:03] recommending moving forward with the
[1:27:06] foreclosure on the lien if you do have
[1:27:09] any questions again Mr Martin is here
[1:27:11] Chief Capri has had some interaction
[1:27:13] with the people that are currently in
[1:27:14] the house and so we'd be happy to try to
[1:27:16] answer any questions you may have
[1:27:19] it's really bad is there anyone in the
[1:27:21] audience that would like to speak as to
[1:27:23] resolution 22-69
[1:27:25] seeing
[1:27:27] we just resolution 22-69
[1:27:30] .
[1:27:32] y'all it's not your part yes
[1:27:35] [Laughter]
[1:27:37] seeing none Mr Mayor commissioners
[1:27:40] before us we have resolution
[1:27:41] 22-69 what's the will of our commission
[1:27:44] so moved thank you second thank you
[1:27:46] ma'am any further discussion not hearing
[1:27:49] any roll call please commissioner hope
[1:27:51] Smith
[1:27:51] commissioner Cobb aye commissioner
[1:27:53] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor
[1:27:56] Holland aye
[1:27:58] next we have resolution 22-64 a
[1:28:01] resolution by the city Commission of the
[1:28:02] City of Eustis Lake County Florida
[1:28:04] adopting the final millage Levy of ad
[1:28:06] valorem taxes for the City of Eustis
[1:28:08] Lake County for the fiscal year
[1:28:10] 2022-2023 providing for an effective
[1:28:12] date
[1:28:14] mayor members of commission Mike Shepard
[1:28:16] Finance director uh tonight we're doing
[1:28:19] the final reading on the millage rate
[1:28:21] it's going to be 7581
[1:28:23] and um
[1:28:25] it is 8.2 percent higher than the
[1:28:28] rollback rate of seven
[1:28:30] 00464.
[1:28:33] uh any questions
[1:28:36] nope okay for anyone in the audience I
[1:28:40] would like to speak on resolution 22-64
[1:28:44] seeing none public comment is closed Mr
[1:28:46] Mann commissioners before speaking of
[1:28:48] resolution 22-64 what's the will of our
[1:28:50] commission move for approval thank you
[1:28:53] ma'am
[1:28:54] a second thank you ma'am any further
[1:28:56] discussion not hearing any roll call
[1:28:58] please commissioner of the Hope Smith
[1:29:00] aye commissioner Cobb aye commissioner
[1:29:02] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor
[1:29:05] Holland aye
[1:29:06] and last we have resolution 22-65 a
[1:29:09] resolution by the city Commission of the
[1:29:11] City of Eustis Lee County Florida
[1:29:12] adopting the final budget for the fiscal
[1:29:14] year
[1:29:15] 2022-2023 providing for an effective
[1:29:17] date Mr Shepard yes this uh is the final
[1:29:21] reading for the this year's budget this
[1:29:24] is the document that
[1:29:26] culminates everything that we've talked
[1:29:28] about for the last three or four months
[1:29:31] so
[1:29:32] we've had to try to get as much input as
[1:29:35] we could
[1:29:36] directors uh you all
[1:29:39] and staff have really done a great job
[1:29:42] of putting this document together and
[1:29:45] getting the information necessary for it
[1:29:47] and the millage rate will support this for the general fund
[1:29:52] and
[1:29:53] I do want to give credit the photos
[1:29:57] we're
[1:29:58] from
[1:30:00] Salt Lake Nature Center
[1:30:03] they provided those that's so cute they
[1:30:06] were yes
[1:30:08] any questions from the commission
[1:30:10] is there anyone in the audience that
[1:30:11] would like to speak on resolution 22-65
[1:30:14] seeing none public comment is closed Mr
[1:30:16] Mayor Commissioners report staff
[1:30:17] resolution number 22-65 what's the will
[1:30:20] of our commission
[1:30:25] thank you all any further discussion not
[1:30:30] hearing any roll call please
[1:30:31] commissioner hope Smith
[1:30:33] aye commissioner Cobb aye commissioner
[1:30:35] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee I'm mayor
[1:30:37] Holland aye Mike thank you and your
[1:30:39] staff for all you've done it was a
[1:30:41] pleasure to work with you all this year
[1:30:43] on this I hope you enjoy the process and
[1:30:46] I think it's well worthwhile thank you madam attorney thank you so
[1:30:49] much if you would start looking on some
[1:30:51] of those you've heard some of our
[1:30:53] concerns with Sharpsburg if you all
[1:30:54] could start working on absolutely
[1:30:56] fourths please thank you so much other
[1:30:58] business uh City commission compensation
[1:31:00] Mr Howe
[1:31:03] Bill Howe Director of Human Resources
[1:31:06] you've been provided a staff report
[1:31:08] regarding commission compensation this
[1:31:11] is based on the conversation of the last
[1:31:13] commission meeting where the commission
[1:31:14] asked staff to make a recommendation
[1:31:15] based on area municipality wages paid to
[1:31:19] Commissioners and the mayor
[1:31:21] brief summary is we've recommended
[1:31:25] the current amount for the commission is
[1:31:27] fifty four hundred dollars a month a
[1:31:29] year excuse me uh that was a year now to
[1:31:33] make a difference
[1:31:36] yeah you want to see 400 annually
[1:31:39] as we said that was last adjusted in
[1:31:42] 1989 33 years ago uh the com the wages
[1:31:46] for the mayor's 6400 annually we're
[1:31:49] recommending that when you look at the
[1:31:51] top eight population jurisdictions in
[1:31:53] the county and you average those other
[1:31:55] than Eustis the average is eight
[1:31:57] thousand dollars that's our
[1:31:59] recommendation for the commission the
[1:32:01] average of the mayor's positions in the
[1:32:03] other large cities uh is 9751 annually
[1:32:07] we're recommending a uh an amount of
[1:32:10] 97.50 annually
[1:32:13] we'd also recommend that the commission
[1:32:16] consider making future increases
[1:32:18] annually as given to other General
[1:32:20] employees that will prevent us from
[1:32:22] going 33 years without looking in a wage
[1:32:24] adjustment
[1:32:25] I provided information at the last
[1:32:28] meeting regarding medical insurance it's
[1:32:30] provided to two cities in Lake County
[1:32:33] and then we're asking what the will of
[1:32:35] the commission is regarding the medical
[1:32:36] insurance I've provided cost information
[1:32:38] for those and I'd be happy to answer any
[1:32:41] questions of Bill
[1:32:44] all right
[1:32:46] um so this will need to come back for a
[1:32:48] vote correct Tom
[1:32:50] yes
[1:32:51] um we're asking for consensus this
[1:32:53] evening and if if what we've recommended
[1:32:55] is acceptable then we'll actually have
[1:32:58] to bring back a budget amendment sure um
[1:33:00] but it's um the total cost is such that
[1:33:03] it's something that we can take out of
[1:33:05] contingency
[1:33:06] and so but we do have to bring back a
[1:33:09] budget amendment for you so wage
[1:33:11] increase if the wage increases were made
[1:33:13] total increases thirteen thousand seven
[1:33:15] hundred fifty dollars in wages okay so
[1:33:17] let's let's talk compensation first uh
[1:33:20] Karen are you okay with the change in
[1:33:22] compensation Emily Willy yeah all right
[1:33:26] so you've got unanimous on compensation
[1:33:28] let's go to health insurance
[1:33:30] um man what do you feel about health
[1:33:32] insurance well I know you're purchasing
[1:33:34] it I purchased the city insurance and
[1:33:36] make no mistake it is wonderful
[1:33:38] Insurance yes but and it's just a single
[1:33:41] policy on myself and it's about 900 a
[1:33:44] month
[1:33:45] so you're eating up everything you make
[1:33:47] just to pay for insurance pretty much I
[1:33:49] work for nothing so yeah but which is it
[1:33:52] is what it is so you know I can
[1:33:55] I'll take it either way you know what
[1:33:57] I'm saying you know I look at the 2600
[1:34:00] jump and and I'm good with that I'm good
[1:34:03] with that you know whatever the will of
[1:34:05] the commission is I mean I'm good either
[1:34:06] way do you want to add insurance or you
[1:34:08] want to leave it just the compensation
[1:34:10] change will you I don't need it but I
[1:34:12] think that
[1:34:14] the option should be there okay yes
[1:34:21] exactly are we considered part-time you
[1:34:24] are
[1:34:25] our part-timers offered Insurance not in
[1:34:29] the city no
[1:34:30] so I would say no okay
[1:34:33] and Emily
[1:34:37] um it should be nothing it should be an
[1:34:39] option okay and I think it should be an
[1:34:42] option also I I don't I'm like you
[1:34:44] really I don't need it but it's my work
[1:34:46] right more than wealth takes care of me
[1:34:48] but I think it should be an option and I
[1:34:50] think it will make it more appealing to
[1:34:53] people that may want to run for City
[1:34:54] commission and and I will say this I
[1:34:57] know we're considered part-time but I
[1:34:59] can promise you it's not
[1:35:02] I think you all know that I do more than
[1:35:04] 27 hours and Karen I do believe we had
[1:35:08] it at one time I did do away with it so
[1:35:11] um it was an option before I think it
[1:35:13] should be something optional that people
[1:35:15] want to opt for it all right I think the
[1:35:18] part of the reason we took it away
[1:35:21] because then more commissioners
[1:35:24] were paid
[1:35:25] additional
[1:35:27] seem like
[1:35:29] um
[1:35:31] for the insurance I mean as a as
[1:35:36] well I guess if you only take it on
[1:35:38] yourself the city pays all of the
[1:35:41] insurance depending on what plan you
[1:35:43] selected there are some two of the base
[1:35:45] plans there would be no charge for the
[1:35:48] commissioner City cost that's where the
[1:35:51] inequality came out about because the
[1:35:54] Commissioners that chose it was they were covered by the taxpayer
[1:36:00] so that was why it was deleted
[1:36:04] and they did the same time they did away
[1:36:06] with FRS as well yes yeah it was a lot
[1:36:09] of different reasons there was a lot of
[1:36:11] different things they did away with
[1:36:13] yeah just because there was some some
[1:36:15] Commissioners felt there was an
[1:36:16] inequality yeah and I just didn't
[1:36:18] remember the reasons and and you know it
[1:36:21] could be a situation where if you just
[1:36:23] um
[1:36:24] do the base whatever and if you want the
[1:36:27] next package then you pay for it
[1:36:30] so you know so it would be my belief
[1:36:32] that the benefit provided to full-time
[1:36:35] employees would be provided to
[1:36:37] commissioners
[1:36:38] if Commissioners as full-time employees
[1:36:41] do they select the base plan the city
[1:36:43] would pay and generally we're paying
[1:36:45] about eighty four hundred dollars a year
[1:36:47] for single coverage
[1:36:48] fifteen thousand dollars for family
[1:36:50] coverage
[1:36:52] if the commission or the full-time
[1:36:54] employee wants to upgrade to a higher
[1:36:56] level HMO or PPO then then the employee
[1:37:00] of the commissioner would pay that
[1:37:01] difference I didn't know because I just
[1:37:03] paid the whole thing yeah
[1:37:06] okay
[1:37:07] I think I think we can bring it back
[1:37:09] that way okay so we will
[1:37:12] um we'll how about we contact the
[1:37:15] Commissioners individually to see what
[1:37:16] their interest is in health insurance
[1:37:18] and then we'll bring some for that okay
[1:37:22] sounds good to everybody
[1:37:23] all right thank you thank you Bill
[1:37:26] uh next one uh where are we at
[1:37:29] discussion at downtown and East Town
[1:37:32] Redevelopment agency board CRA and the
[1:37:35] community representative positions
[1:37:43] I promise
[1:37:48] okay so this is a continuation of a
[1:37:51] discussion we had at the last Commission
[1:37:53] meeting and there were some additional
[1:37:56] questions that were brought up and so
[1:37:57] hopefully I'll be able to address those
[1:38:00] so
[1:38:01] we expanded the CRA board back in 2018
[1:38:05] according to the fra 97 percent of CRA
[1:38:08] board members are local elected
[1:38:10] officials and in our case uh the the CRA
[1:38:13] board is the five members uh back in
[1:38:17] 2018 we added the two Community reps and
[1:38:21] that was under Florida statute
[1:38:24] 163.357 governing body which consists of
[1:38:27] five members May appoint two additional
[1:38:30] members to act as members of the
[1:38:33] community redevelopment agency and this
[1:38:36] will address one of the questions that
[1:38:37] came up at the last meeting the statute
[1:38:40] actually says the term shall be for four
[1:38:43] years except that the first person
[1:38:45] appointed shell initially served for two
[1:38:47] years and that's to stagger the terms so
[1:38:50] our initial appointee was Dan Kelsey Dan
[1:38:53] Kelsey
[1:38:54] then left and so that that two-year term
[1:38:57] has been
[1:38:59] um
[1:39:00] we're on four-year terms at this point
[1:39:02] and the statute says they have to be
[1:39:04] four-year terms so we don't have the
[1:39:06] ability to to I know one of the
[1:39:08] questions was can we go to two-year
[1:39:09] terms or one-year terms uh we cannot do
[1:39:12] that based on the statute
[1:39:14] so
[1:39:16] the um the statute the statute does
[1:39:19] require that the new board members must
[1:39:21] reside or be engaged in business in the
[1:39:24] CRA and it also says that the board
[1:39:27] members are subject to Sunshine Law and
[1:39:30] to the code of ethics
[1:39:31] um that all elected officials are
[1:39:34] subject to
[1:39:36] so this is a little bit of an
[1:39:38] explanation there were some questions
[1:39:39] about the language we had in there
[1:39:42] so there were some questions as to why
[1:39:44] do we talk about requiring expertise in
[1:39:47] architecture Finance construction land
[1:39:49] use affordable housing sustainability
[1:39:52] and or community redevelopment and when
[1:39:55] I pulled up the research there were two
[1:39:57] bills in 2018 one house bill and one
[1:40:00] Senate Bill the Senate bill was actually
[1:40:03] going to require that we add two members
[1:40:06] the bill didn't pass but it was going to
[1:40:10] not only require that we add two members
[1:40:13] but the two new members couldn't be
[1:40:15] elected officials and they had to have
[1:40:17] expertise in architecture Finance
[1:40:19] construction so what we did was we
[1:40:21] borrowed that language the commission at
[1:40:23] the time said we kind of like that
[1:40:25] language and even though the Senate Bill
[1:40:27] didn't pass let's use that language
[1:40:30] and so that's why that language is in
[1:40:33] there
[1:40:35] so items for your consideration
[1:40:38] um one thing that was mentioned is what
[1:40:41] if we ask the community reps to give
[1:40:44] periodic reports
[1:40:45] to the commission and by that I think
[1:40:49] the intent was if you're out there
[1:40:51] talking to the community if you're
[1:40:52] attending events come back and report to
[1:40:55] us as to what kind of public input
[1:40:57] you're getting what events have you
[1:40:58] attended what upcoming events are you
[1:41:01] planning to attend uh that type of thing
[1:41:03] and then another item
[1:41:07] is
[1:41:08] um the the resolution that was passed
[1:41:10] actually encourage professional
[1:41:12] development and continuing education but
[1:41:15] I will be honest I have not encouraged
[1:41:18] that enough so we should be working with
[1:41:21] our two Community reps to talk to them
[1:41:24] about opportunities at Florida
[1:41:26] Redevelopment Association and everybody
[1:41:28] should have gotten in the packet of the
[1:41:31] fra annual meeting is upcoming in
[1:41:34] mid-october and so we should be
[1:41:36] encouraging our community reps to go to
[1:41:38] this and then fra also has a
[1:41:40] certification program where they do
[1:41:42] periodic trainings uh around the state
[1:41:46] and so
[1:41:48] um again we in this in the resolution we
[1:41:51] have said we encourage professional
[1:41:53] development
[1:41:55] um
[1:41:55] and continuing education but I will be
[1:41:58] more aggressive about that moving
[1:42:00] forward and so
[1:42:02] that's all I have at this point
[1:42:05] um so really items to if we can't we
[1:42:07] can't do anything about the terms uh so
[1:42:10] the question is do you want to continue
[1:42:11] having these two positions
[1:42:13] if so do you want the Reps to do
[1:42:17] periodic reporting and I will be more
[1:42:19] aggressive about professional
[1:42:21] development and so I'd be happy to
[1:42:23] listen to any feedback you might have
[1:42:25] vice mayor start us off
[1:42:30] I have some concerns about
[1:42:33] um can even continuing
[1:42:35] I like that the suggestions about uh I
[1:42:39] feel like there needs to be a better
[1:42:41] connection
[1:42:42] if they're going to be the community
[1:42:44] reps they come they sit and they just
[1:42:46] listen to us and we get nothing back so
[1:42:49] I I like that idea that they come back
[1:42:51] we know that they're interacting with
[1:42:53] the community we know that they're
[1:42:55] getting
[1:42:57] feedback from the community and they
[1:42:58] bring back to us I guess I'd like to see
[1:43:00] that happen I really really encourage
[1:43:04] um the
[1:43:06] education part of it I think that's very
[1:43:08] important
[1:43:10] my concern is
[1:43:12] the the qualifications when you go back
[1:43:15] to it the land use
[1:43:16] um
[1:43:17] knowing these things
[1:43:20] um that seems like it's limits
[1:43:24] the participation of people having these
[1:43:28] kinds of qualifications
[1:43:31] um I I think it would be wonderful if we
[1:43:33] could find someone to do that but I do
[1:43:35] think it's important that
[1:43:37] um they have a
[1:43:39] they were asking about voting that isn't
[1:43:42] as much of an issue to me as their
[1:43:45] being connected to the community and
[1:43:47] being able to feedback give us some
[1:43:49] information and interact with us on that note so that's more important to
[1:43:54] me than whether or not they can vote but
[1:43:56] if they couldn't vote and it's nothing
[1:43:58] other than the way we've been doing it I
[1:44:00] would say demolished get rid of it but
[1:44:02] if we add all these other things I think
[1:44:04] it's important and I think it'll create
[1:44:06] a better
[1:44:08] um kind of position if we did if we do
[1:44:11] those things okay so if we add the
[1:44:13] education ring and the other thing
[1:44:16] reporting back you're good with going
[1:44:18] ahead and keeping the two seats yes on
[1:44:21] the CRA yes my question is how do they
[1:44:24] apply and then they can show that they
[1:44:27] have expertise in these areas and then
[1:44:29] they come back to us and we choose them
[1:44:30] that's the process okay
[1:44:33] it's it's similar to every other board
[1:44:35] in commission we have so there's a
[1:44:38] standard application and they would fill
[1:44:40] that out
[1:44:42] really I
[1:44:46] you know I think we should keep them uh
[1:44:49] I think that they should stay on we well
[1:44:50] we should uh you know keep the two uh
[1:44:53] Community uh members okay I think to
[1:44:57] do a way way with them is a step back
[1:45:00] for us okay uh
[1:45:02] the one thing I'm not crazy about is
[1:45:07] you know this verbiage architecture
[1:45:09] Finance construction you know we want
[1:45:11] people that live here that that love
[1:45:14] this city and they all may not have
[1:45:17] and I'm sure the majority of the people
[1:45:19] that may apply you know won't have any
[1:45:21] of that stuff so I don't know what
[1:45:23] previous commissions
[1:45:24] uh thought when they wanted to include
[1:45:28] that
[1:45:29] um but I don't want to use that as a way
[1:45:31] to kind of weed people out I think love
[1:45:34] of community
[1:45:35] uh you know wanting to see Eustis grow
[1:45:38] is is probably a little bit more
[1:45:40] important than some of this and I agree
[1:45:43] we do need to have that feedback
[1:45:45] I think that would be great to him have
[1:45:48] them come in and
[1:45:50] you know and give us that feedback
[1:45:53] um you know what communities think and
[1:45:54] what the communities say all right
[1:45:56] sounds good I think they would feel good
[1:45:59] about being a part of it when they can
[1:46:01] give something back it helps them feel
[1:46:04] like they're a part of the sport yes
[1:46:06] ma'am
[1:46:07] Karen
[1:46:10] um I am a proponent of keeping the people
[1:46:15] okay I I do understand that the verbiage
[1:46:19] does
[1:46:20] put most of us out heck I think we all
[1:46:22] need to take the class I mean it
[1:46:25] wouldn't hurt any of us to be involved
[1:46:28] in that but um
[1:46:34] I'm still in favor of keeping the two Representatives
[1:46:39] Dan
[1:46:41] um Yes actually I did sign up for the
[1:46:43] class okay that week so I am signed up I
[1:46:46] would like to see the word expertise
[1:46:48] removed I don't think I think expertise
[1:46:50] kind of
[1:46:51] um you know and we could add some
[1:46:53] language in there as well but I think
[1:46:56] these things a lot of them will happen
[1:47:00] when they get educated and when they
[1:47:03] attend the classes okay so I think that
[1:47:06] problem will solve itself but I also do
[1:47:08] like you know love of community you know
[1:47:10] things of the like however and I totally
[1:47:13] agree with Emily that
[1:47:16] you've got to come with something you
[1:47:18] have to come and and I want I want to
[1:47:21] see engagement in east and west
[1:47:25] you just can't just because you're from
[1:47:28] Easter just because you're from West
[1:47:29] doesn't mean we separate I don't like
[1:47:31] that separation go to everything
[1:47:35] just go to everything because how can
[1:47:36] you be knowledgeable about something
[1:47:38] that we do maybe with George fast or
[1:47:40] something that we're doing maybe
[1:47:43] downtown if you're not involved in it or
[1:47:46] you're not get the education to get the
[1:47:48] background in it I I want to see them
[1:47:51] involved in in both sides okay because
[1:47:54] we are one Eustis and so I I want that
[1:47:58] um
[1:47:59] I want that inclusive like that we need
[1:48:01] more information you know we need to see
[1:48:04] you know what what do you see you know
[1:48:07] so you don't you're right and they don't
[1:48:09] have a vote and I I truly believe that
[1:48:10] needs to come from an elected official I
[1:48:12] do however it doesn't mean that what you
[1:48:15] say isn't important but you've got to
[1:48:16] come with us with something other than
[1:48:17] just coming and sitting up here we've
[1:48:19] got to have some more interaction
[1:48:21] so I'm a pronoun for keeping it but we
[1:48:23] just we've got to tweak it a little bit
[1:48:25] I I'm in favor of keeping it as well
[1:48:28] um I I believe that the education part
[1:48:31] is very important whether we're engaging
[1:48:33] Tom in the the format that you've got
[1:48:36] before you or for what the Florida
[1:48:37] League of cities offers as well yes
[1:48:40] um so um and you know we sit here we say
[1:48:43] we want Community involvement but yet we
[1:48:45] put these two seats on a chopping block
[1:48:47] it's not fair to the community so we
[1:48:50] need to keep it okay okay a couple of
[1:48:53] things
[1:48:54] um if we do want to modify the language
[1:48:57] It Is by we did approve it by resolution
[1:48:59] so I will have to bring you back a
[1:49:01] modified resolution if you'd like uh I
[1:49:04] can look at that what would you do you
[1:49:07] want to just remove the word expertise
[1:49:09] and then put something in there or do
[1:49:11] you want to remove that entire section
[1:49:14] well this says education or experience
[1:49:16] does this the advertisement it doesn't
[1:49:19] say expertise
[1:49:21] so it depends on what the resolution is
[1:49:24] that the word expertise may have been in
[1:49:26] the original Senate bill I think that's
[1:49:28] right and so yeah the resolution may
[1:49:31] have modified yeah
[1:49:34] just take a look at it okay I will bring
[1:49:37] it back that way and maybe Community
[1:49:39] involvement sure
[1:49:50] and then the final thing
[1:49:52] um commissioner Cobb mentioned um so
[1:49:55] there's
[1:49:56] um
[1:49:57] the Florida Redevelopment association
[1:49:59] annual conference is October 12th to the
[1:50:01] 14th it's in Daytona uh that first day
[1:50:04] the 12th there is
[1:50:06] um a session called CRA board training
[1:50:09] it's basically CRA basic CRA 101
[1:50:13] um and uh so Al and I are going for the
[1:50:16] entire conference but that CRA board
[1:50:19] training might be the most valuable
[1:50:21] session and so there is still an
[1:50:24] opportunity to sign up for that so if
[1:50:27] you would like to sign up for that we
[1:50:29] can get everybody signed up and we can
[1:50:32] take care of that for you
[1:50:34] we have Emo the same week are you going
[1:50:36] to emo no one in uh no Tampa okay
[1:50:40] because I'm just traveling from Daytona
[1:50:42] and then I'll do you know the one that
[1:50:44] the the meaning that he's talking about
[1:50:47] and then a couple of the classes and the
[1:50:49] next day then you leave then I'll go to
[1:50:51] Tampa
[1:50:55] so we'll reach out to each commissioner
[1:50:57] individually and you can let us know do
[1:50:59] you want to do just the the CRA board
[1:51:01] training or the entire event yeah and uh
[1:51:04] we'll get it squared away okay Christine
[1:51:06] would you please make sure that if more
[1:51:09] than one of them are going you notify it
[1:51:11] so that we don't get the Sunshine Law
[1:51:15] catch us okay
[1:51:17] just noticed it
[1:51:19] so all right
[1:51:21] um we're going to take a quick five
[1:51:24] minute break and then we'll come back
[1:51:25] and we will do the regulations on
[1:51:27] backyard chickens and finish our meeting
[1:51:30] up so five minute break this boat
[1:57:03] welcome back everyone we're going to
[1:57:05] move down down to regulations relating
[1:57:06] uh to Backyard chickens who wants to
[1:57:09] start Tom you want to start or we go
[1:57:11] turn it over to Mike sure I'll uh just
[1:57:13] kind of open with
[1:57:15] um this is um something that I was going
[1:57:17] to bring up under reports but it might
[1:57:19] be relevant to this conversation
[1:57:22] um I think we've had several
[1:57:24] Commissioners talk about having a
[1:57:27] workshop on density and future land use
[1:57:31] and kind of looking at some items in our
[1:57:35] comprehensive plan
[1:57:37] and
[1:57:38] um that's probably not a hour before a
[1:57:42] normal Commission meeting type of
[1:57:43] workshop and so I was looking at a
[1:57:48] Saturday Workshop
[1:57:51] and I I know that's painful but that's
[1:57:54] probably the kind of time we're gonna
[1:57:55] need to talk
[1:57:57] um I'd like to do it sooner rather than
[1:57:59] later I don't know
[1:58:02] um
[1:58:03] I've talked to a couple of Commissioners
[1:58:05] about Saturday October 8th
[1:58:08] uh does
[1:58:10] um do we mind looking at and the reason
[1:58:12] I'm bringing this up is part of this
[1:58:15] conversation might be that uh backyard
[1:58:18] foul are appropriate in certain land use
[1:58:21] categories and so maybe it's um part of
[1:58:25] the discussion is uh where is this
[1:58:28] appropriate and in what land use
[1:58:30] categories and so this might be
[1:58:33] I think it's reasonable to have some
[1:58:35] discussion this evening about about this
[1:58:38] but I also think that this might be a
[1:58:41] larger land use discussion and we can do
[1:58:43] that on October 8th if the commission
[1:58:47] is available I'm okay I'm not I'm
[1:58:49] available I'm not
[1:58:52] okay what about October 1st
[1:58:54] no I'm not I'm in Baltimore on the 8th
[1:58:59] I'm not available on the 15th but I am
[1:59:02] on the 22nd and I'm not
[1:59:04] wait a minute that's the Fall Festival
[1:59:07] on 22nd night the 22nd is Fall Festival
[1:59:12] could we do it on a Monday or Tuesday
[1:59:14] night do you think how much time do you
[1:59:16] think we need
[1:59:17] um we probably need two to three hours I
[1:59:20] would think
[1:59:22] we could I mean if we were to if we were
[1:59:25] to do it on a weeknight and start at say
[1:59:28] 4 P.M maybe we did that one of our
[1:59:31] recent meetings we did that was it a
[1:59:33] budget Workshop
[1:59:35] uh where we started early on a weekday
[1:59:37] I'd rather do it during the weekdays my
[1:59:40] weekends are
[1:59:41] slammed
[1:59:45] by October our regular Thursdays or six
[1:59:48] in the 20th what about the third of
[1:59:49] October on a Monday I'm good
[1:59:52] the third of October
[1:59:55] I'm good October 3rd October 3rd
[2:00:00] I'd rather do it sooner than later yeah
[2:00:02] I can do October 3rd
[2:00:05] is this a and I let me ask Mike and Jeff
[2:00:09] and Heather uh there's going to be some
[2:00:11] prep work that goes into this do we
[2:00:13] think we can pull together the
[2:00:15] information we need by October by Monday
[2:00:17] October 3rd
[2:00:19] it's a cake they can do it
[2:00:21] [Laughter]
[2:00:24] laughs
[2:00:26] okay
[2:00:27] um we want to start earlier
[2:00:31] I think
[2:00:32] if you woke that I was wondering more
[2:00:35] about you you don't really care
[2:00:37] I'm in short-termers mode at work so
[2:00:40] she's retired first of the year okay
[2:00:42] yeah you don't care are we gonna do a
[2:00:45] breakfast oh no
[2:00:47] [Laughter]
[2:00:50] you want to start at some 6 30 a.m
[2:00:52] breakfast all right why don't you start
[2:00:54] doing my first conference call at 5
[2:00:56] 30 every time
[2:00:59] okay uh why don't we do three o'clock on
[2:01:01] the third if that works for staff
[2:01:04] you guys good
[2:01:07] um I it it looks like that will work on
[2:01:10] the calendar
[2:01:12] you all right okay and if you'll remember when we
[2:01:17] brought this up the last time talking
[2:01:19] about the consideration of chickens I
[2:01:23] said there are places that I am not
[2:01:27] opposed to chickens and there are places
[2:01:30] that I am opposed to them I think having
[2:01:32] this conversation
[2:01:35] um during this Workshop is where this
[2:01:37] conversation needs to take place
[2:01:40] um I think that Mike's presentation I've
[2:01:42] read through parts of it and I think
[2:01:45] that um that that needs to be a part of
[2:01:48] what we looked at during this
[2:01:49] presentation to be honest with you I
[2:01:51] agree and I know you all made a special
[2:01:53] trip here tonight you've sat here all
[2:01:55] night with us but I I did not know that
[2:01:59] this is the way we were going to try to
[2:02:00] do this but I think it works out better
[2:02:02] and I think it's better for the citizens
[2:02:04] of Eustis
[2:02:06] um
[2:02:07] and there's a lot of reasons why we need
[2:02:09] to do this land use stuff as we grow we
[2:02:13] want to be fair to the citizens to the
[2:02:15] east of Eustis as we look at annexations
[2:02:18] and things like that that we're making
[2:02:21] the right decisions to be good neighbors
[2:02:23] and to make it to where people want to
[2:02:26] Annex into the City and I I just think
[2:02:29] this is the perfect time for this so
[2:02:32] um if it's okay I think we even delay
[2:02:35] this presentation to us part of this
[2:02:38] meeting but that's up to this commission
[2:02:41] I agree
[2:02:42] so y'all are okay you okay um Karen you
[2:02:45] okay
[2:02:46] um so I'm Mike I'm sorry I know you
[2:02:48] stayed here too all dressed up tonight
[2:02:50] with a time with a tie and everything
[2:02:53] but let's let's go ahead and make this
[2:02:56] part of our presentation on October
[2:02:59] uh for okay okay yes all right all right
[2:03:02] I want to say kudos to Mike and his crew
[2:03:06] that put this together this was so nice
[2:03:09] it was easy to read yes and it was
[2:03:13] um
[2:03:14] I thought it was an excellent
[2:03:15] presentation compiled in a few pages so
[2:03:19] okay
[2:03:23] pages
[2:03:28] so don't complain I took a nap so
[2:03:34] um if you won't get a copy of what we're
[2:03:37] looking at
[2:03:39] this so um that's the regular City
[2:03:42] commission talk about this dude can you
[2:03:45] share that with with these folks
[2:03:50] here
[2:03:52] so due to Ada accessibility yes this was
[2:03:55] not included online in the packet it was
[2:03:58] something that was emailed it is
[2:03:59] definitely available to the public
[2:04:02] um we just wasn't something that we put
[2:04:04] up online
[2:04:06] we'll get you a copy also
[2:04:13] if anybody wants any of the presentation
[2:04:16] like Tom said because of ADA regulations
[2:04:19] we're not able to put some things online
[2:04:21] but if you'll contact the city manager's
[2:04:25] office we can email that full 22 page
[2:04:29] presentation to you if you want it this
[2:04:32] is a great uh outline of really
[2:04:34] everything kind of condensed though okay
[2:04:37] that staff put together but we'll have a
[2:04:40] full conversation after next at that at
[2:04:43] that special meeting
[2:04:44] everybody good all right let's move on
[2:04:48] to Future agenda items um
[2:04:51] help me uh
[2:04:54] you're good okay okay Karen nothing
[2:04:57] thank you yeah I'm good really future
[2:04:59] agenda I'm good anything to report Karen
[2:05:06] somewhere but
[2:05:08] it's going yeah man anything to report
[2:05:11] for him yes sir um uh this past Sunday
[2:05:16] um
[2:05:17] Atwood Family Farms out in the blueberry
[2:05:20] farm out in Eustis had a another ribbon
[2:05:23] cutting if you will and a name change to
[2:05:24] Amber Brook Farms and so the mayor and I
[2:05:27] attended that and it was just they were
[2:05:30] really really we were just really excited that they
[2:05:33] invited us you know and they were glad
[2:05:36] to have us so it was a nice turnout
[2:05:39] they've done a lot out to that property
[2:05:41] I remember when it used to be the old
[2:05:43] Alger property and they filmed Jeepers
[2:05:46] Creepers Scary Movie out there so
[2:05:49] they've done a lot of work so if you get
[2:05:50] a chance go out there they're the nicest
[2:05:52] people you could ever want to meet the
[2:05:54] Atwoods in the hills are just really
[2:05:56] super folks so if you get a chance go on
[2:05:58] out
[2:05:59] um
[2:06:01] we had as the mayor had talked before we
[2:06:05] had had a meeting we all did with fdot
[2:06:08] regarding us getting a little bit of
[2:06:10] attention at the Clover out there at
[2:06:12] 441-19
[2:06:14] and kind of up and down
[2:06:17] in Eustis
[2:06:20] probably a week later
[2:06:22] they came in mode it came in mode it is
[2:06:25] it completely finished no because that's
[2:06:26] one heck of a project but at least it's
[2:06:28] mode you can actually see the sidewalk I didn't remember sidewalk being there
[2:06:32] so but they have done a good job so
[2:06:34] we're very very thankful
[2:06:36] um you know that commissioner trunow had
[2:06:38] set all that up for us took three months
[2:06:40] to get the meeting but it was just a
[2:06:42] really Pleasant meeting and we're very happy that giving us a little bit
[2:06:46] of attention now when we're on the radar
[2:06:47] so um things are getting cleaned up if
[2:06:51] you will in Eustis and I just had one
[2:06:53] question for Papa I mean Rick
[2:06:55] I'm sorry
[2:07:00] foreign
[2:07:03] [Music]
[2:07:08] no I just wondered where we were with
[2:07:10] the islands an island update
[2:07:12] it's already stuck
[2:07:14] puppy so we're
[2:07:18] we need to get the plant the revised
[2:07:20] plans I kinda have not pushed Oh I
[2:07:23] thought you had gone with your mom I
[2:07:25] thought you got hold around
[2:07:26] um we need to pick out the material
[2:07:28] which we've got the list to be able to
[2:07:30] pick okay but yeah I need to get him
[2:07:33] kind of trued up but I'll do that I'll
[2:07:36] talk to him and see where it is yep
[2:07:39] thank you all righty got it while Rick
[2:07:41] is at the podium everyone we will be
[2:07:44] having a update back on the cemetery
[2:07:47] we've talked about it
[2:07:49] um there was just a little bit of a
[2:07:51] challenge the way that things have been
[2:07:53] written uh whether we go resolution
[2:07:57] for okay
[2:07:58] the other way ordinance
[2:08:01] that's what we're working on once that's
[2:08:04] done that'll be back in front of the
[2:08:05] commission okay
[2:08:07] all right thank you Rick is that it man
[2:08:09] that's it really okay
[2:08:11] um
[2:08:12] The Gauntlet has been oh boy now again
[2:08:20] um I got the phone call no you got it
[2:08:22] good yeah good I gave her your number
[2:08:24] okay
[2:08:26] um Lake cares they have their the annual
[2:08:30] uh Christmas Gala and
[2:08:35] um Tavares and Mount Dora have have
[2:08:38] challenged
[2:08:40] this Commission
[2:08:42] uh to do the Christmas tree yes now the
[2:08:47] thing this year commissioner Carr
[2:08:50] is that they will provide the tree
[2:08:54] and I hear it's a Charlie Brown tree so
[2:08:57] I can make Walmart look good okay well
[2:08:59] good because you got to do it
[2:09:02] um
[2:09:03] I got you and I've talked to them about
[2:09:05] uh just judging the cities as opposed to
[2:09:08] okay us against so do we get a big tree
[2:09:11] that we got psyched out the last time we
[2:09:13] were told four foot tree and I get there
[2:09:15] and everyone's got these eight foot
[2:09:16] trees yeah they're trying to get at
[2:09:18] least for us the smaller ones okay I'll
[2:09:21] we'll do the big I'll do the big one as
[2:09:22] well but I just want to level playing
[2:09:26] and uh
[2:09:28] grant writers
[2:09:30] uh I spent some time with some friends
[2:09:33] over the last week and a half and
[2:09:35] they're out in uh
[2:09:38] Louisiana
[2:09:40] and they were talking about the
[2:09:43] importance of Grant riders for them and
[2:09:46] I'd like to know how things are going
[2:09:48] with us and if it's a compensation thing
[2:09:50] because grant writers are so important
[2:09:53] too what we want to do and how we want
[2:09:56] to grow
[2:09:57] do we need to
[2:10:00] look at maybe raising that
[2:10:05] sure so we have the position advertised
[2:10:08] one thing that has changed is we brought
[2:10:10] Al on board and Al has some experience
[2:10:14] and actually
[2:10:16] um working with representative trunow's
[2:10:19] office we submitted uh two
[2:10:22] Appropriations grants and although
[2:10:25] nothing is official I think one of those
[2:10:27] projects is likely to get some funding
[2:10:30] so that's and the the Al wrote those
[2:10:33] requests we also have a grant into
[2:10:38] dceo related to some utility relocations
[2:10:42] related to the Waterman site
[2:10:44] and so I
[2:10:47] we've had discussions with with Al
[2:10:50] related to the grant writing position is
[2:10:53] that a position at one point that
[2:10:55] position might have reported directly to
[2:10:57] me but it might be appropriate for that
[2:11:00] person to report to Al uh we can take a
[2:11:02] look it's probably we need to take a
[2:11:04] look at the job description I know we
[2:11:07] submitted it to our HR consultant for
[2:11:10] scoring so that the HR consultant could
[2:11:13] give us a range where maybe the pay was
[2:11:16] appropriate we could take a look at that
[2:11:19] again
[2:11:20] um I think the the short answer to your
[2:11:23] question is I think we have more grant
[2:11:26] writing expertise on staff than we did
[2:11:27] before uh but we need to ramp that up
[2:11:30] and we know that and so we'll we'll take
[2:11:32] another look at it yeah and I and I this
[2:11:35] is just me I don't want Al to get yeah no I I understand if we get any
[2:11:41] application at all when have you
[2:11:43] received any applications
[2:11:46] okay any qualified
[2:11:57] we'll take another look at it okay we
[2:11:59] don't want to revisit looking at a
[2:12:01] company that does
[2:12:04] I mean you look at the cost of
[2:12:07] individual versus if you could pay a
[2:12:10] company for specific projects I don't
[2:12:13] know yeah the the
[2:12:15] um there are we for example Palmetto
[2:12:18] Plaza uh we had a grant consultant of
[2:12:22] write that Grant and then manage that
[2:12:24] grant for us and they secured us 750 000
[2:12:27] in cdbg small cities
[2:12:31] but they are not experts in every type
[2:12:33] of grant you know there are uh Public
[2:12:35] Safety grants police grants fire grants
[2:12:38] and so
[2:12:39] um we can get external consultant help
[2:12:43] but we would have to get help from many
[2:12:46] sectors right
[2:12:48] um and so there are not a lot of firms
[2:12:50] out there that just write all kinds of
[2:12:53] Grants and so we'd have to we've looked
[2:12:55] at that
[2:12:56] um but again they're usually specific to
[2:12:58] certain types of Grants or sectors so
[2:13:01] yeah I look at that as being with us
[2:13:04] trying to grow the way that we want to
[2:13:06] grow that's being one of the most
[2:13:08] important things that we leave to yep we
[2:13:10] need to do yeah we will um definitely
[2:13:13] take another look at that see what we
[2:13:15] can do to get more interest
[2:13:17] anything else
[2:13:19] nope that's it
[2:13:22] oh I'm sorry now here's one thing uh the
[2:13:25] 15th which is one of the reasons why one
[2:13:28] of my societies is booked
[2:13:31] um
[2:13:32] October I've scheduled
[2:13:36] uh
[2:13:38] a group to to come and help me paint the
[2:13:42] concession stands so high school into
[2:13:44] high school so if anyone else wants to
[2:13:46] come out and take pictures
[2:13:48] you're more than welcome to was that
[2:13:51] directed at all I think no it was right
[2:13:54] here it wasn't us
[2:13:55] that's why that's one reason to have
[2:13:59] some help okay all right a check write a
[2:14:03] check and he's writing the check
[2:14:05] that's the one reason
[2:14:08] I know that's it okay Somebody's gotta
[2:14:11] take pictures
[2:14:13] you have anything miss them oh I just um
[2:14:16] really enjoyed the presentation at the
[2:14:19] Mary McLeod Bethune statue
[2:14:22] um that was done and it's at The Tavares
[2:14:24] Museum and I hope that you'll go and and and to see it and see all of the
[2:14:30] history and the things that's presented
[2:14:32] with it
[2:14:33] um it's a beautiful presentation and the lady who sculpted it was there and
[2:14:39] we're fortunate because
[2:14:41] um we have there's only two tiny ones
[2:14:43] made smaller ones made and and
[2:14:45] fortunately Lake County has one and I'm
[2:14:47] sure the other was probably at the
[2:14:49] school but needless to say we have it
[2:14:52] and it's a wonderful wonderful
[2:14:53] presentation so I hope that you will
[2:14:55] Avail yourselves of it
[2:14:58] anything else that's it thank you Mr
[2:15:01] city manager uh yes couple of items
[2:15:05] um organizational grants we are ramping
[2:15:07] up to release our organizational Grant
[2:15:09] application
[2:15:10] we know that there are some changes this
[2:15:13] year one it's going to be a
[2:15:15] reimbursement this year so you have to
[2:15:17] perform as an organization before you
[2:15:19] get the reimbursement we also want
[2:15:22] presentations
[2:15:26] um at after the event or the effort is
[2:15:30] done we want presentations
[2:15:32] as to the impact of the grant
[2:15:36] we will provide all of the applications
[2:15:40] to the city commission for review I
[2:15:42] don't think in the past we've provided
[2:15:45] all of those applications so the one
[2:15:47] question I want to ask does the
[2:15:50] commission want presentations
[2:15:52] as part of the application process in
[2:15:55] other words all of the applicants come
[2:15:58] before the city commission to present
[2:16:01] their Grant applications
[2:16:02] that in the past we've had 15 19 20
[2:16:06] applicants so that would be a
[2:16:09] significant amount of time it might be a
[2:16:12] standalone Workshop because of the
[2:16:14] number of presentations but if that's
[2:16:16] the will of the city commission we're
[2:16:18] happy to set that up so we know we're
[2:16:21] going to get a presentation after the
[2:16:24] organization performs but do we want
[2:16:26] presentations
[2:16:28] upon application before they perform
[2:16:31] how about if we all read the
[2:16:33] applications and then we select the ones
[2:16:36] that we think would be most appropriate
[2:16:37] and then to view them
[2:16:40] so the commission would get all of the
[2:16:43] applications they would narrow down the
[2:16:45] pool and then bring in just those that
[2:16:47] they feel should be funded is that is
[2:16:50] that what you're saying that's a
[2:16:51] suggestion I'm not saying that's what we
[2:16:52] should we should have to do I also would
[2:16:54] want to know how many people are they
[2:16:57] serving how many in the community that
[2:16:59] they serve and reach you know you could
[2:17:01] do a grant and do five people I want to
[2:17:03] know that it was a significant amount of
[2:17:06] people that was impacted by whatever
[2:17:08] they did I'd like to know what they're
[2:17:09] going to do with the money and how are
[2:17:11] we represented as a sponsor as well sure
[2:17:13] and I so those that information is
[2:17:16] required as part so they have to tell us
[2:17:19] how many people they're impacting they
[2:17:21] have to tell us how they're going to
[2:17:22] spend the money they have to submit
[2:17:24] financials and you'll see all that as
[2:17:26] part of the applications yeah I think
[2:17:29] what I'd like is because we have a panel
[2:17:32] that that
[2:17:34] goes through and looks at him now we
[2:17:36] have traditionally had a staff review
[2:17:38] group who then makes a recommendation in
[2:17:40] the city commission that's how it's
[2:17:41] worked and I think what what I'd like to
[2:17:44] see is
[2:17:46] because I'm going to be honest with you
[2:17:48] I don't want to listen to 19 of anything
[2:17:51] now we're down yeah I'd like for the
[2:17:55] staff to to kind of narrow it down and
[2:17:58] they maybe have them come in yes yeah
[2:18:00] and I wouldn't be opposed to that yeah
[2:18:02] the candidates yeah yeah but I still
[2:18:05] like to see the applications right yes
[2:18:07] exactly so then if we had any questions
[2:18:09] for staff how did you derive
[2:18:11] okay we make us doing 19 you know
[2:18:16] 19 organizations coming before us and
[2:18:19] then we only pick the prime then yeah
[2:18:22] the other 14 think we stink so well if
[2:18:26] they said anyway yeah so okay so we'll
[2:18:28] get you all of the applications uh we'll
[2:18:31] narrow it down and then bring to you uh
[2:18:34] who we think are the finalists
[2:18:36] okay okay
[2:18:37] um the other uh item
[2:18:40] um I've I know I've committed to you to
[2:18:42] having a CRA review committee meeting I
[2:18:46] think the largest outstanding item is
[2:18:47] what are we going to do with the mode
[2:18:48] owned program uh and I've I've been
[2:18:51] looking at the calendar to try to get
[2:18:53] that scheduled
[2:18:55] um between uh police accreditation the
[2:18:58] mayor the police chief and I will be out
[2:18:59] of town that first week for a couple
[2:19:02] days that first week of October fra is
[2:19:05] the week after that so I actually
[2:19:09] um at one point I was going to suggest
[2:19:11] uh Tuesday October 4th but we just
[2:19:15] scheduled a workshop for the for October
[2:19:18] 3rd
[2:19:20] um and so I don't want to leave this
[2:19:21] hanging and I it's taken I need to get
[2:19:25] on top of this
[2:19:27] um
[2:19:28] because I know we have a couple of
[2:19:29] outstanding items uh what about Tuesday
[2:19:33] October went out that's not gonna
[2:19:35] Tuesday October 11th nope we have to start heading to Daytona yeah so I know we have two that would I
[2:19:45] mean what about the fifth an attempt
[2:19:49] I'm out of town we're out of town Tom
[2:19:52] and I are out of town yeah what about
[2:19:53] the fifth I mean we have the chamber
[2:19:55] breakfast
[2:19:56] I got it oh I didn't know how long you
[2:19:58] were okay yeah the fifth and the sixth
[2:20:00] back the evening of the sixth
[2:20:09] degree Development Association no we're
[2:20:12] gone that whole week
[2:20:14] yep and then the week after that are
[2:20:18] um the we're before the special
[2:20:20] magistrate for fire Union and then I
[2:20:24] have a deposition related to
[2:20:26] um a court case when do you when do you
[2:20:29] leave for the police accreditation the
[2:20:32] fifth
[2:20:33] yeah about that last week
[2:20:42] and I find them on the third
[2:20:44] is that too much time too much too much
[2:20:47] okay how much time are we gonna leave
[2:20:50] I probably about an hour I would think
[2:20:53] but I do also need to check availability
[2:20:55] for the appointees yeah uh who are
[2:20:58] obviously not here tonight
[2:21:01] October 24th
[2:21:04] 25th
[2:21:09] I'm okay with those two dates
[2:21:12] yeah I'm sorry when Monday October 24th
[2:21:16] or Tuesday October 25th yeah either one
[2:21:20] okay um if it's okay with you I will
[2:21:24] um we'll start with the 25th because I
[2:21:26] think we've done Tuesday nights in the
[2:21:27] past with this group I'll start with the
[2:21:29] 25th and uh try to confirm so okay
[2:21:35] uh I would expect this would be a 5 30.
[2:21:38] I think we have tried to do 5 30 with
[2:21:40] this group we have some people that work
[2:21:42] and
[2:21:43] um can be here by 5 30. Moda owns that
[2:21:46] we're just going
[2:21:47] yeah well it's it's a cre Review
[2:21:50] Committee update but the main
[2:21:51] outstanding item is mode to own
[2:21:54] so your 25th right Tuesday the 25th
[2:21:59] CRA review committee meeting
[2:22:01] together
[2:22:06] anything else Tom I'm sorry the only
[2:22:08] other item is We are continuing to work
[2:22:11] uh with fish and wildlife and waste
[2:22:13] management on the bearproof cans and we
[2:22:16] just need to make sure that Waste
[2:22:18] Management can work with what fish and
[2:22:20] wildlife has to offer so yeah it's
[2:22:22] speaking of that I think it would
[2:22:26] I don't know who was was it Mike
[2:22:28] yeah it still has the straps as well
[2:22:31] correct so we would still have to go out
[2:22:34] and talk to the residents they remembered it
[2:22:39] yeah the residents when they wheel the
[2:22:41] toter out they need to unbuckle or
[2:22:43] unstrap and it's recommended they do
[2:22:45] that the morning of trash pickup as
[2:22:47] opposed to the night before
[2:22:49] yeah as as Jose giving you a date when
[2:22:52] he wants to go out and not not yet not
[2:22:55] yet and I I need to get with uh Fisher
[2:22:58] Julie at Fish and Wildlife because she
[2:23:01] wasn't Julie
[2:23:03] okay I need to get with the
[2:23:05] representative from fish and one because
[2:23:06] they have the addresses of where these
[2:23:08] things okay yeah I know where they are
[2:23:10] okay there's only three
[2:23:12] all right that's all I have Madame
[2:23:15] attorney nothing for me all right
[2:23:18] yes ma'am sorry um no that's fine I just
[2:23:22] wanted to you know me and Leash we're
[2:23:25] doing a free microchip Clinic October
[2:23:28] 1st from 10 to noon at the Humane
[2:23:31] Society
[2:23:33] Umatilla address
[2:23:34] and the Humane Society is giving away
[2:23:37] free spay and neuter certificates for
[2:23:39] dogs for Lake County residents
[2:23:43] all right
[2:23:45] anything else that was it all right
[2:23:49] um quick things uh 911 service that uh
[2:23:53] City of Tavares and Lake County put on
[2:23:56] was outstanding several of us got to
[2:23:58] attend that I got to speak at that event
[2:24:00] very nice uh the Barry McLeod Bethune
[2:24:03] statue was just a great Gathering of
[2:24:06] folks from all over Lake County just an
[2:24:09] outstanding job was done that statue is
[2:24:13] carved out of the the same marble that
[2:24:17] is was used for the one that's in
[2:24:18] Washington DC it's statutorial hall now
[2:24:21] it also came out of the same Quarry that
[2:24:24] the statue of David came out of the
[2:24:27] statue is absolutely beautiful so if you
[2:24:29] can go over to the Old Lake County
[2:24:33] Courthouse the Historical Museum and see
[2:24:35] that statue
[2:24:37] as the start of September Comes Along we
[2:24:39] are slammed with things to do watch the
[2:24:42] Civic City website come out and enjoy uh
[2:24:46] our fall festivals and everything else
[2:24:48] we have to offer our staff does a great
[2:24:50] job putting those things on I want to
[2:24:53] thank you all for staying with us it's
[2:24:54] about 8 25 and we're going to be
[2:24:56] adjourned
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