1 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,350 All right. All right. 2 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,439 saying no. 3 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:24,710 >> No. 4 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:24,720 » No. 5 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,510 >> You good? 6 00:01:25,510 --> 00:01:25,520 » You good? 7 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,510 >> Is he in here? 8 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:27,520 » Is he in here? 9 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,870 >> Yeah. So, you see Lorie? 10 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:28,880 » Yeah. So, you see Lorie? 11 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,950 >> Yeah. 12 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:37,990 » And he's trying to get 13 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,429 sitt. 14 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:44,320 » That's good for us. 15 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:48,310 >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. It is. 16 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,000 Good evening everyone and welcome to 17 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,880 USUS City Hall. This is a regular Sunday 18 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,479 commission meeting of the US city 19 00:01:54,479 --> 00:01:57,119 commission. It is now 6:00 p. p.m. 20 00:01:57,119 --> 00:02:00,000 August the 6th, 2026. 21 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Please silence all of your phones. Thank 22 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,719 you. If you would like to join us, the 23 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:06,799 invocation tonight will be presented by 24 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:09,440 Pastor Jay Cooknau of Life Community 25 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Church and the pledge of allegian 26 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,760 allegiance by our commissioner Willie 27 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,750 Hawkins. 28 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,840 Let's pray. Father, we thank you for 29 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,440 this opportunity to come and to seek 30 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,200 your guidance. Lord, I would just pray 31 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,640 that you would lead and guide each of 32 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:29,760 these council members as they uh vote on 33 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,440 things and make decisions for our 34 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,040 community. We pray that you would make 35 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,400 this a peaceful meeting and that your 36 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,160 hand would be upon everything. We ask 37 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,160 this in Jesus name we pray. Amen. 38 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,270 >> Amen. 39 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:39,280 » Amen. 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,750 >> Please join me for the pledge. 41 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:41,760 » Please join me for the pledge. 42 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,879 I pledge algiance to the flag of the 43 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:47,519 United States of America and to the 44 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:50,800 republic for which it stands. One nation 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,000 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 46 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,680 justice for all. 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:03,270 >> Thank you. 48 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,040 » We will officially call this meeting to 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,040 order. Christine, is there a quorum 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,480 present and proper notice have been 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,040 given? 52 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,070 >> Yes, Mayor Lee. 53 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:10,080 » Yes, Mayor Lee. 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,430 >> Thank you. Rick, is there an agenda 55 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:11,440 » Thank you. Rick, is there an agenda 56 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,080 update? 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,070 >> There is no agenda update. 58 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:14,080 » There is no agenda update. 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,509 >> Okay. And I think you have a 60 00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:15,519 » Okay. And I think you have a 61 00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:18,000 presentation. 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,710 >> Uh yes. So we get started today. We have 63 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:22,720 » Uh yes. So we get started today. We have 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,200 um representatives from Center 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,239 Development uh to present information on 66 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:31,599 the Akilo project um a redevelopment 67 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,040 project downtown [clears throat] 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:40,789 community. 69 00:03:40,799 --> 00:03:42,159 Good evening. 70 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:44,149 >> Good evening, mayor, commissioners, city 71 00:03:44,149 --> 00:03:44,159 » Good evening, mayor, commissioners, city 72 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:47,040 manager Garrick, city staff, members of 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,000 our community, and the Achil team. My 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,080 name is Danell Hoffer. I'm the CEO of 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Urban Hideway Development and Center 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,799 Green. Before I begin, I'd like to 77 00:03:56,799 --> 00:03:59,200 answer a question I've been asked many 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,920 times over the past several months. Why 79 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,400 Achilo? is the name of the project that 80 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,760 we're proposing. Achilo is pronounced 81 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,439 Ailo. 82 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:11,280 It's the ancient Roman name for the 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,200 north wind. 84 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,439 It's associated with fresh breezes, 85 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:18,880 changing seasons, and renewal. To us, 86 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,840 Ikilo reflects boating, sailing, 87 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:24,000 sunsets, and the energy of a vibrant 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,840 waterfront. 89 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:27,680 Most importantly, it represents bringing 90 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 new life and new opportunity to downtown 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,720 Eustace. That's the vision behind the 92 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,520 name. So now I'd like to turn to why 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:42,150 we're here tonight. 94 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Commissioners, tonight our request is 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,320 very straightforward. We're requesting 96 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,560 your authorization to direct city staff 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,240 to negotiate a purchase and sale 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,040 agreement and development agreement with 99 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,960 the negotiated document returning to 100 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,680 this commission for consideration within 101 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,479 90 days. I want to emphasize one 102 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:02,400 important point. 103 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,639 Tonight authorizes authorizes 104 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:07,840 negotiations. It does not approve a 105 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,919 final project. 106 00:05:09,919 --> 00:05:12,000 Tonight begins a structured public 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,199 process that allows the city and our 108 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:17,280 team to complete the necessary due 109 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:19,643 diligence, negotiate the agreements, 110 00:05:19,643 --> 00:05:21,360 [snorts] and bring them back to this 111 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:29,189 commission for review and consideration. 112 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:31,360 This slide explains why we believe this 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,400 opportunity is important. Our vision is 114 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,039 to transform the community center site 115 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:40,479 into a true waterfront destination for 116 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:43,280 downtown Eustace. We believe this 117 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:45,600 project can serve as a catalyst for 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 continued revitalization by generating 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,039 tourism, supporting local business, 120 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:52,479 creating opportunities for 121 00:05:52,479 --> 00:05:54,320 entrepreneurs, 122 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,919 encouraging additional private 123 00:05:55,919 --> 00:05:58,000 investment in the community, and 124 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,639 establishing a long-term economic anchor 125 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:02,479 for downtown. 126 00:06:02,479 --> 00:06:04,080 It also represents workforce 127 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,680 development. 128 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,440 The project is expected to create 129 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,440 hundreds of construction jobs during 130 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,280 development, approximately 175 full-time 131 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:15,440 jobs once complete, creating 132 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,919 opportunities across hospitality, 133 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:21,759 dining, retail, wellness, maintenance, 134 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:24,880 management, and professional services. 135 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Finally, city staff has identified 136 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,479 alternative community meeting space, 137 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:32,560 allowing this property to be evaluated 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:41,350 for its highest and best community use. 139 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,199 This slide illustrates the overall 140 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:45,759 vision for the site. The program 141 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:48,240 combines hospitality, residential, 142 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,039 dining, event space, parking, critical 143 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:55,280 to the success, and public waterfront 144 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:58,720 spaces in one integrated destination. 145 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Each use has been planned to support the 146 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,720 others, creating activity throughout the 147 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,639 day and throughout the year while 148 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:07,759 strengthening downtown Eustace as a a 149 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:09,919 truly a destination for residents and 150 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:15,990 visitors alike. 151 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,080 This is our current conceptual site 152 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,199 plan. It reflects the planning completed 153 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:23,919 to date and illustrates how the various 154 00:07:23,919 --> 00:07:26,240 program elements work together while 155 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,120 maintaining an active public waterfront 156 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,960 as negotiations and due diligence 157 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,360 continue. This plan will continue to be 158 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,629 refined. 159 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:41,599 Let's talk about project scale. This 160 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:44,080 represents approximately 70 million in 161 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,720 estimated private investment. 162 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,319 It reflects the project's current 163 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:50,720 conceptual scope and demonstrates the 164 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,720 significance of the opportunity before 165 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,720 the city. 166 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,560 As with any development of this scale, 167 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,560 the final investment in project details 168 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,039 will continue to be refined through due 169 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:05,430 diligence and negotiations. 170 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,360 So, let's talk about what has already 171 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,240 been completed. Before requesting 172 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,360 authorization to move [clears throat] 173 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,840 forward this evening, it's important to 174 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,879 recognize the substantial work that's 175 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:19,680 already been finished. Our vision and 176 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,400 programming are complete. Preliminary 177 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,759 planning and massing have been 178 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:25,520 completed. 179 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,039 Our professional team has been 180 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:29,120 assembled, many of which are here this 181 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,440 evening. They are local as we are. or a 182 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,839 local family and they are very very 183 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:35,919 invested and ready to get to work on the 184 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:37,440 project. 185 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,279 Initial engineering coordination has 186 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:42,000 begun. Hospitality discussions have 187 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,640 taken place. Preliminary market 188 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,519 evaluation has been completed. 189 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:49,200 We've made significant private 190 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,519 investment in bringing the project to 191 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:53,680 this point and we've begun initial 192 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:56,640 construction discussions already. 193 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,839 This is why we're ready [clears throat] 194 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:03,509 to move to the next phase. 195 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:05,839 So what happens next? It's always the 196 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:08,240 question. If negotiations are authorized 197 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,480 this evening, the next phase includes 198 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,200 the work shown on this slide. 199 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,360 Independent appraisals, 200 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,920 survey and title review, environmental 201 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,600 review, 202 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,800 utility and storm water coordination, 203 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,800 development agreement and entitlement 204 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,600 work, submission of project team 205 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,839 qualifications, 206 00:09:29,839 --> 00:09:31,839 negotiation of the purchase and sale 207 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:36,710 agreement to buy the property, 208 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,040 and finally returning everything to this 209 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:45,190 commission for consideration. 210 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,000 So, commissioners, our request, this is 211 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,680 the action that we're requesting this 212 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:52,480 evening. We're asking you to direct city 213 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,200 staff [cough] to begin negotiating a 214 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,680 purchase and sale agreement for the 215 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,839 community center property immediately 216 00:09:59,839 --> 00:10:01,760 and proceed diligently towards 217 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,800 completion in a 90-day time frame. 218 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,519 During that process, city staff and our 219 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:09,519 team will coordinate the appraisals, the 220 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:12,560 title information, the surveys, utility 221 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:15,040 and storm water review, the development 222 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,839 agreement framework, entitlements and 223 00:10:17,839 --> 00:10:20,399 zoning, legal review, and all other 224 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:23,120 documents necessary to negotiate a 225 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,040 mutually acceptable purchase and sale 226 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,839 agreement again for the purchase of the 227 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:29,279 property. 228 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:31,279 We're also requesting that city staff 229 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,120 coordinate departments and consultants 230 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,800 as needed, identify any issues requiring 231 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,120 commission policy direction during 232 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,279 negotiations, [clears throat] and return 233 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:43,120 the negotiated purchase and sale 234 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,440 agreement to this commission 235 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,680 for any approvals required under city 236 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:51,760 procedures. Again, tonight authorizes 237 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,800 negotiation. It does not approve the 238 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,350 final project. 239 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,200 So, madame mayor and commissioners, I'd 240 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,440 like to thank you for your time. I'd 241 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,079 like to take thank city staff, city 242 00:11:06,079 --> 00:11:08,640 manager for his time. Thank you for the 243 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,079 consideration this evening. We 244 00:11:10,079 --> 00:11:12,800 respectfully request your authorization 245 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,440 to begin the purchase and sale agreement 246 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,200 and development agreement negotiation 247 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,800 process. 248 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,600 We truly appreciate the opportunity to 249 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,760 continue working collaboratively with 250 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,800 the city as this process moves forward. 251 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,720 and we really look forward to returning 252 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,399 to you with a complete agreement for 253 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:32,560 your consideration. 254 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:34,000 Thank you. And I'll be happy to answer 255 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,320 questions. 256 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,670 >> Thank you. I'll go. You want to go 257 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:39,680 » Thank you. I'll go. You want to go 258 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:45,360 first? Okay. Um I'll go. Um 259 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,880 you say city staff has identified 260 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,279 uh 261 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:52,880 another property for the community 262 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,640 center. 263 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,040 Um, not necessarily. That's a very, very 264 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,320 good question. I think they've 265 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,959 identified various uh properties that 266 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:02,959 the city already owns that are meeting 267 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:05,200 space related, including the senior 268 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,959 center and some other places around the 269 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:09,023 city. So, they they've definitely 270 00:12:09,023 --> 00:12:09,760 [cough] 271 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,800 hard look at that. 272 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,069 >> Would you by chance know what the 273 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:12,079 » Would you by chance know what the 274 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:14,639 capacity is for those buildings? 275 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:16,150 >> Um, I don't have it with me. 276 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:16,160 » Um, I don't have it with me. 277 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:16,470 >> Okay. 278 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:16,480 » Okay. 279 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,509 >> We got that in that staff report. 280 00:12:19,509 --> 00:12:19,519 » We got that in that staff report. 281 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:21,829 >> I think city staff held led that effort. 282 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:21,839 » I think city staff held led that effort. 283 00:12:21,839 --> 00:12:23,509 >> Yeah. off off the top of my head, I 284 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:23,519 » Yeah. off off the top of my head, I 285 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:27,920 don't know the exact numbers. Um the the 286 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,320 senior center is close. It's a little 287 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,000 bit smaller 288 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,069 >> um than the community center, but we did 289 00:12:34,069 --> 00:12:34,079 » um than the community center, but we did 290 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:35,839 look at the different events housed at 291 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:38,880 the community center in in a one-year 292 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,240 period. 293 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,030 >> It seemed like all but three or four of 294 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:43,040 » It seemed like all but three or four of 295 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,680 the events could be housed at the senior 296 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:46,480 center. 297 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,030 >> Okay. Is that uh is that three or four 298 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:51,040 » Okay. Is that uh is that three or four 299 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,320 only because we don't have the space? 300 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,800 And if we do this and we go to the 301 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,560 senior city senior citizens building, 302 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,078 does that lock us into not 303 00:13:02,078 --> 00:13:04,240 [clears throat] being able to grow the 304 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,590 community, not being able to to expand? 305 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,399 Um, I don't I don't see that it would 306 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:15,440 tie us into not being able to expand, 307 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,920 but um, you know, there's there were 308 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,160 the events, I believe, and I don't have 309 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,639 that information with me, but we did a a 310 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:27,839 deep dive into it. Um, there were a 311 00:13:27,839 --> 00:13:29,600 couple graduations. There was, I think 312 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,864 that like an eighth grade graduation. Um 313 00:13:32,864 --> 00:13:34,639 [clears throat] so you know we looked at 314 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:36,959 other venues that could be in town but 315 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:39,360 it would be private venues. Um you know 316 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,959 Life Point Church could handle that 317 00:13:40,959 --> 00:13:42,160 size. 318 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,990 >> Um you we we had talked about outside um 319 00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:46,000 » Um you we we had talked about outside um 320 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,680 events which is a little more difficult 321 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:50,399 to arrange but it would it would have to 322 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:53,200 go to a third party facility. 323 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,710 >> Is that fair to our citizens? 324 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:56,720 » Is that fair to our citizens? 325 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,189 >> Um I I can't speak to that. 326 00:13:59,189 --> 00:13:59,199 » Um I I can't speak to that. 327 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:01,750 >> Okay. Um 328 00:14:01,750 --> 00:14:01,760 » Okay. Um 329 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,279 this was an uh 330 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:08,480 have we had any other uh proposals 331 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,389 >> on this? 332 00:14:10,389 --> 00:14:10,399 » on this? 333 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:13,509 >> No, 334 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:15,120 » you can't. 335 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,750 >> I cannot. 336 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:15,760 » I cannot. 337 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,829 >> No, no, you cannot do that. You have to 338 00:14:17,829 --> 00:14:17,839 » No, no, you cannot do that. You have to 339 00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:20,480 have a seat. Please sit down. Please. 340 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,320 You can't do that now. You can't do that 341 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:22,560 now. 342 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,910 >> She's just asking for us to speak up. 343 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:23,920 » She's just asking for us to speak up. 344 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,639 That's the speaker. 345 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:27,030 >> Okay. 346 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:27,040 » Okay. 347 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,550 >> Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were asking 348 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:28,560 » Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were asking 349 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:38,870 to speak. I apologize. I apologize. 350 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,279 » Okay, ma'am. Is this better? 351 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:43,750 >> There's a earpiece. Uh, you can get a 352 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:43,760 » There's a earpiece. Uh, you can get a 353 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,440 earpiece from the gentleman right over 354 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,519 there if that helps you. 355 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:50,150 >> I apologize. 356 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:50,160 » I apologize. 357 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,455 >> Help me. I appreciate it. 358 00:14:51,455 --> 00:14:51,465 » Help me. I appreciate it. 359 00:14:51,465 --> 00:14:53,590 [clears throat] 360 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,920 » Yeah. Did we get any other proposals on 361 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,720 this? 362 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,480 And no, we did not. 363 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,230 >> Okay. Um, so why would we negotiate with 364 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:04,240 » Okay. Um, so why would we negotiate with 365 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,790 just one? 366 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,959 » This um the the 367 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:16,399 submitt came in. We have not advertised. 368 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:18,720 This wasn't part of the process. 369 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,629 >> So as the opportunity came in, um we 370 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:22,639 » So as the opportunity came in, um we 371 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:27,519 presented it over a year ago to you. Um 372 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:28,959 there were some things that were 373 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:33,120 identified um at that point I believe 374 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,079 they were addressed. One was um can we 375 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:39,680 handle the events that are there? Um I 376 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,480 think we have a good good uh game plan 377 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,199 for that like a mitigation plan. Um the 378 00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:50,240 at this point it is 379 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,639 um you know you're you're being asked if 380 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:54,480 you want to consider it. Mhm. 381 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,670 >> Um it it is it could definitely 382 00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:57,680 » Um it it is it could definitely 383 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,720 stimulate part of our our downtown 384 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,959 implementation plan. This falls in this 385 00:16:02,959 --> 00:16:05,680 was identified in the steps 386 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,639 um as as being one of the key factors. 387 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:10,310 >> That's actually Rick. That's actually a 388 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:10,320 » That's actually Rick. That's actually a 389 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,320 great point. This is this is consistent 390 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,639 with our downtown master plan. It could 391 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:16,000 it fits within that. 392 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,910 >> It was one of the items that have been 393 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:17,920 » It was one of the items that have been 394 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,360 discussed in the workshops 395 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,269 >> and and and I don't disagree that it 396 00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:21,279 » and and and I don't disagree that it 397 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:24,079 fits. Um, 398 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:26,880 but why the rush with one? Why not put 399 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,639 it out there and see what else is out 400 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:31,279 there? 401 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:32,949 >> All due respect, Commissioner, we've 402 00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:32,959 » All due respect, Commissioner, we've 403 00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:35,040 done the work. We've spent 16 months and 404 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,519 a considerable private investment into 405 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,560 preparing for this point in time as as 406 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,399 was indicated in the workshop that you 407 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:44,800 attended. So, we feel like, you know, 408 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,720 we're ready to take the next step. We 409 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,759 are um have already invested several 410 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:52,320 million dollars into the community over 411 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,920 the last several years in our 412 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,759 developments here and we're committed 413 00:16:55,759 --> 00:16:58,160 and ready to do this. Um and it's time 414 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,079 for the city to be able to move forward. 415 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:03,920 It's time the the citizens want um 416 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,559 security in their future. Children need 417 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:10,000 a place to go. People need places to 418 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,120 work. the workforce development um that 419 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:16,160 this will create is significant and 420 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,520 we've done significant work 421 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,870 >> substantial work. Yes, ma'am. 422 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:20,880 » substantial work. Yes, ma'am. 423 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,909 >> Um there have been things done and I 424 00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:23,919 » Um there have been things done and I 425 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:26,400 guess there's more things to do. Who's 426 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,880 going to invest the finances into this? 427 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,799 How you know how much of it are you 428 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:32,400 going to be a part of? 429 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,990 >> Yes, mayor. That that's a very good 430 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:34,000 » Yes, mayor. That that's a very good 431 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,217 question. There's a significant 432 00:17:35,217 --> 00:17:36,559 [clears throat] capital stack of course 433 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:38,480 that that has to exist and take place. 434 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,080 We're in the process of looking at that 435 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,000 now, but we've already made an 436 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,280 investment valued at over $800,000 just 437 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,160 in the last 18 months. And we did that 438 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,919 and everyone sitting on the front row 439 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:51,760 today has done that. They represent 440 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,600 legal, architecture, civil planning, um 441 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,559 economic development, and we've all made 442 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:02,080 the efforts to do that. So, um because 443 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,679 we believe in this project and we 444 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:05,440 believe in the city, we believe in the 445 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,000 economic value. You know, I I I 446 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,200 appreciate that. Uh I appreciate the 447 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,960 work that you put into it, but it was a 448 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,000 gamble, I think, to do that until you 449 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,120 got the okay from us. 450 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:19,909 >> Um 451 00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:19,919 » Um 452 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:20,470 >> we do that. 453 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:20,480 » we do that. 454 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,830 >> It's an investment. 455 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:21,840 » It's an investment. 456 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,909 >> We do that all the time. You know, we we 457 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:23,919 » We do that all the time. You know, we we 458 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:27,520 invest in projects that we believe in. 459 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,909 >> Well, I think I think it's a wonderful 460 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:29,919 » Well, I think I think it's a wonderful 461 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:32,080 it is a wonderful opportunity for us. 462 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:32,470 >> Thank you. 463 00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:32,480 » Thank you. 464 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,150 >> For for 20 years, there's been no 465 00:18:34,150 --> 00:18:34,160 » For for 20 years, there's been no 466 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,120 development at all in downtown. So I 467 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:41,120 think this is a very big catalyst to 468 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,559 economic development for our city. So 469 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:46,480 it's a yes for me. 470 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,310 >> Well, it and 471 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:50,320 » Well, it and 472 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,600 why can't we do multiple proposals 473 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,789 >> if everyone agrees? 474 00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:54,799 » if everyone agrees? 475 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:56,549 >> All due respect, you have done that in 476 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:56,559 » All due respect, you have done that in 477 00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:58,720 the past and no one has stepped up to 478 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,200 this level. 479 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,750 >> I'm sorry. Not for that site. 480 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:01,760 » I'm sorry. Not for that site. 481 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,430 >> You have, 482 00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:03,440 » You have, 483 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,950 >> but it's okay. I I think for one thing, 484 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:06,960 » but it's okay. I I think for one thing, 485 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,200 we need to move on. I mean, we've got to 486 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,919 get started. I made a comment before and 487 00:19:11,919 --> 00:19:14,320 I still believe that that we've got to 488 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,480 get moving. We can't just keep going. 489 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,390 >> Mary, you're right. It's been 20 years. 490 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:18,400 » Mary, you're right. It's been 20 years. 491 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,080 It's been 20 years since the hospital 492 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,720 left. Nothing has happened in downtown. 493 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,520 This is a wonderful and 494 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,000 very, very great opportunity for us to 495 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320 change the direction of our town. And 496 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,960 you're right, we need to get moving. 497 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,039 Madame Mayor, one point that I'd like to 498 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:36,720 clarify is that because the property, 499 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,720 and this has been discussed before is 500 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,280 within the CRA, there needs to be a 501 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,360 notice that's provided. And so I would 502 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,080 take tonight as authorization for staff 503 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,559 to continue discussions and for terms 504 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:50,320 that are sufficient enough for the city 505 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,400 to be able to provide that notice for 506 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,760 the CRA to be made. And then that will 507 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,240 be the opportunity for others to make a 508 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,320 proposal. And that's a 30-day time 509 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,080 period that that we're looking at once 510 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,720 that notice is given. So, I want to be 511 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,320 clear on that that there would be an 512 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,640 opportunity for others to have that 513 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,120 chance because it's a CRA property. 514 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,750 >> Understand, 515 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:13,760 » Understand, 516 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,909 >> George. 517 00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:15,919 » George. 518 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:21,029 >> Um, 519 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:23,600 my understanding, and I guess I I guess 520 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,440 this is probably a question. Well, Tom 521 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,480 isn't here anymore, but my understanding 522 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,320 from Tom was that he approached them and 523 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,559 he brought up the community center and 524 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:38,159 asked them to work on this project. Am I 525 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:39,679 close to anything saying that? 526 00:20:39,679 --> 00:20:40,230 >> Yes, sir. 527 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:40,240 » Yes, sir. 528 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,630 >> You never went and said, I want to He 529 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:42,640 » You never went and said, I want to He 530 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200 said I want you to look at this. You 531 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,120 can't look at the three lots. I want you 532 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:47,840 to look at Okay, 533 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,070 >> that's correct, sir. Thank you. and on 534 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:50,080 » that's correct, sir. Thank you. and on 535 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,840 the that's a big number of invest a big 536 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,440 investment number. I think it's a 537 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,880 privilege and an honor for our city to 538 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,480 have someone even consider that. Um 539 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,640 I'm a numbers guy which hopefully all of 540 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,080 us are. But when I look at that 70 541 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,919 million, 50 million, 60 million, 542 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:09,280 whatever it ends up being, usually it 543 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,280 ends up being more than we think. But if 544 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,760 it's 70 million, I think to myself, 545 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,400 at the taxes that are generated there, 546 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,159 we can build a community center every 547 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:22,880 year, pay for cash. 548 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 So, 549 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,679 that's that's important to me. There 550 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:29,840 were a couple things I I did uh asked to 551 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,600 meet with her that I wanted and I want 552 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,320 to make sure that they're included. Uh, 553 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,960 one is that you pay for the property. 554 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,120 two that if you don't perform, we get 555 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:41,200 the property back. [clears throat] Uh 556 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,559 what was the third thing? Um 557 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,880 that you would try to use local people 558 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,559 and and there was I think there was 559 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:50,159 something else much more minor, but 560 00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:52,400 those were the two biggest things that 561 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,720 you have a timeline to do what it is. Is 562 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,520 that still uh something you're okay 563 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:57,840 with? 564 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,149 >> Yes, sir. Absolutely. It's important to 565 00:22:00,149 --> 00:22:00,159 » Yes, sir. Absolutely. It's important to 566 00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:01,200 us. 567 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,390 >> That's it. 568 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:02,400 » That's it. 569 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,029 >> If if this was to go back out, Rick, how 570 00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:05,039 » If if this was to go back out, Rick, how 571 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:07,280 long would it go out for? 572 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,039 Well, it's it's as Taylor said, it it we 573 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:13,919 would this could be a could serve as the 574 00:22:13,919 --> 00:22:17,039 the public notice and at that point 30 575 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:18,400 days. 576 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,950 >> Anytime, and this is just me, anytime 577 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:20,960 » Anytime, and this is just me, anytime 578 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,200 anyone comes to me and says I need it 579 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,039 immediately, that causes me some 580 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,480 concern. 581 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,710 >> Um 582 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:28,720 » Um 583 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:36,159 uh I know that there are people that uh 584 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:38,000 you know, there are commissioners that 585 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,840 think this is a good idea. Um, 586 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,760 I think citizens first. Um, 587 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,919 you know, I don't like the we'll find 588 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:49,440 someplace for him to go. I don't like 589 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,640 that idea. Um, I don't like the fact 590 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,120 that, uh, 591 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,360 pretty much that's the people's house 592 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,799 and we're being rushed to make a 593 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:05,830 decision. 594 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,240 I guess maybe I missed something. I 595 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,840 can you explain more about this it being 596 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,440 in the CRA? I didn't 597 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,120 recall that being a part of that is in 598 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,110 >> my understanding is that prior meetings 599 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:21,120 » my understanding is that prior meetings 600 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,960 and and workshops and I know there was 601 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,280 communication with council for the 602 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,600 presenters that discussed and brought up 603 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,360 the fact that the property is within the 604 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,520 CRA and that that required necessitated 605 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600 under the statute that there's certain 606 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600 notice requirements before that that 607 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,120 property could be leased sold or 608 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,600 dispossessed in any Okay. And that's 609 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,159 that's what I'm referring to. 610 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:47,270 >> Okay. 611 00:23:47,270 --> 00:23:47,280 » Okay. 612 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,909 >> Commissioner Holland, 613 00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:49,919 » Commissioner Holland, 614 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:52,310 >> I'd like to introduce Logan Ops. 615 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:52,320 » I'd like to introduce Logan Ops. 616 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,830 >> Commissioner Holland has something to 617 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:53,840 » Commissioner Holland has something to 618 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,080 say. Let me hear from him real quick. 619 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,710 >> Yeah, thank you. Logan Obsol uh with 620 00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:58,720 » Yeah, thank you. Logan Obsol uh with 621 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,799 Lounge Law Firm, land use council on the 622 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,640 project. U that's fine. I I the previous 623 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,799 council there were discussions back and 624 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:08,320 forth. I think we're aware that it's in 625 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,880 the CRA and certain things need to go 626 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,960 on. The Community Redevelopment Agency 627 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,520 is an important part of this. That's 628 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,600 what we're we're promoting is is 629 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,240 redevelopment of downtown. Um this isn't 630 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720 a rush. It's it's been a you know almost 631 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,080 an 18-month process and uh in constant 632 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,400 communication with your city staff who I 633 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,400 applaud has been transparent 634 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,120 informational has requested uh on your 635 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,360 behalf uh a lot of information from us 636 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,919 which has brought us to this point. Um 637 00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:39,840 again and this was covered by Dell at 638 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,360 the top tonight is a direction to allow 639 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:46,480 city staff to engage with us to provide 640 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,400 a purchase and sale agreement which will 641 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,640 come back before this body. the items 642 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,039 that commissioner as body pointed out as 643 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:56,000 relates to some sort of reverter time 644 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,679 frame. Those are exactly the items that 645 00:24:57,679 --> 00:24:59,279 are going to go into that document and 646 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,120 again that will come back for your 647 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:05,279 consideration. So tonight is is uh not 648 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:06,880 anywhere near the conclusion. It's the 649 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,960 beginning and it's an exciting one uh in 650 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,240 line with the city's vision for 651 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,600 downtown. 652 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,269 >> It sounds to me like this is the perfect 653 00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:13,279 » It sounds to me like this is the perfect 654 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:14,799 time to get someone else in because 655 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,640 we're at the beginning. We're not in the 656 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:23,510 middle. 657 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,679 There's probably only maybe two or three 658 00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:27,360 of us that are sitting in this room that 659 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,520 knew the Pendletons that owned that 660 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,720 property where that building's sitting. 661 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,240 Part of me thinks that they would be 662 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,919 excited to see the city finally moving 663 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:40,400 forward with something. 664 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,320 We're sitting on three city blocks 665 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,960 behind us that will never be developed 666 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 unless we have a catalyst to bring 667 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,080 people to downtown Eustace. 668 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,480 This is a project that could probably do 669 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,120 that. 670 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,840 There's a lot of work to be done and I'm 671 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,520 not going to shut it down tonight 672 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,520 without us going ahead and exploring the 673 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,919 avenues. I think that nothing ever hurts 674 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:11,039 with our staff going ahead and talking 675 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:14,320 and bringing stuff back. Since it is in 676 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,480 the CRA, you've got that protection 677 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,640 where other people are going to see this 678 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,880 and they're going to want to jump in. 679 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,600 So, I don't see any problem with us 680 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000 talking, but we're going to have to do 681 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,200 something as a commission that that 682 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,919 opens up the rest of the development of 683 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:33,440 downtown. 684 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,840 And the way the funding of the CRA 685 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,840 works, the more money that is brought in 686 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,039 by tax money and into the CRA through 687 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,440 the development of our commercial 688 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,240 corridors, the more money there is to 689 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520 spend in other parts of our CRA. I think 690 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,640 if we understand that, that's why this 691 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,840 is very important to us as a city. Our 692 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,440 businesses downtown are struggling and 693 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,600 if we don't do something and if we're 694 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,000 not proactive, we're going to lose more 695 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,919 and more of those businesses. I know 696 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:09,600 there are several restaurants that are 697 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,200 hanging by a thread downtown. 698 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,039 It's our job to make sure that they're 699 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,679 able to stay in business. It's our job 700 00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:20,080 to make sure that our citizens have a 701 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,279 downtown that they're proud of and that 702 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,480 we can spend more money in our CRA as we 703 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,760 fill those coffers. I'm with I am for at 704 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,559 this point moving us forward. We're 705 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,120 talking. Nothing has said we're selling 706 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,760 this property yet or anything like that, 707 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,520 but for us to stop talking is a problem. 708 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,120 That's my opinion. 709 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,984 >> Yeah. Were we Rick? Well, we um 710 00:27:46,984 --> 00:27:46,994 » Yeah. Were we Rick? Well, we um 711 00:27:46,994 --> 00:27:48,240 [clears throat] 712 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960 at one point we talked about uh putting 713 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,399 out uh the solicitation. 714 00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:56,240 Correct. 715 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,909 >> Uh there there was discussion on it and 716 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:59,919 » Uh there there was discussion on it and 717 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,240 that came back to commission and it was 718 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,679 tabled. 719 00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:04,870 >> It was tabled. 720 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:04,880 » It was tabled. 721 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,470 >> Yeah. 722 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,240 » Well, I don't think I can make it any 723 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,470 clear how I feel about it. 724 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,559 It seems like the general consensus of 725 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,760 the um commission is to stop moving 726 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,039 forward. 727 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,149 >> It's a yes for me. 728 00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:26,159 » It's a yes for me. 729 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:27,190 >> Yes, for me. 730 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:27,200 » Yes, for me. 731 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,310 >> Yes. 732 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:28,320 » Yes. 733 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,350 >> Absolutely not. 734 00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:29,360 » Absolutely not. 735 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:30,549 >> Okay. 736 00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:30,559 » Okay. 737 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:31,830 >> Thank you for your leadership. We look 738 00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:31,840 » Thank you for your leadership. We look 739 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,880 forward to working with you. 740 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,830 >> Thank you. Thank you. 741 00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:33,840 » Thank you. Thank you. 742 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,909 >> Thank you, 743 00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:35,919 » Thank you, 744 00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:37,590 >> mayor and commissioners. Thank you for 745 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:37,600 » mayor and commissioners. Thank you for 746 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,360 your time. We appreciate this 747 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,039 consideration. And with your permission, 748 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,520 we'd respectfully ask that the Achil 749 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,320 team and our consultants and guests um 750 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,399 be allowed to quietly excuse ourselves. 751 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:49,750 >> We'll give you a few minutes to do that. 752 00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:49,760 » We'll give you a few minutes to do that. 753 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,080 Thank you. 754 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,549 >> Thank you, ma'am. 755 00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:50,559 » Thank you, ma'am. 756 00:28:50,559 --> 00:29:10,789 >> Thank you. Thank you. 757 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,240 Okay. Next, we'll move on to 758 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,840 appointments 759 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,480 to the Eustus Housing Authority. 760 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,950 >> Uh, yes, Mayor. Uh, this item is for 761 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:18,960 » Uh, yes, Mayor. Uh, this item is for 762 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,720 consideration of the appointment of 763 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,840 Kimberly Desawn Jones to the Eustace 764 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,039 Housing Authority to fill a vacancy of a 765 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:32,080 4-year term expiring July 18, 2028. 766 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,159 Um, as recommended by the Eustace 767 00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:36,559 Housing Authority Executive Director 768 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,840 Horus Jones and the Eustace Housing 769 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,679 Authority Board. 770 00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:43,190 >> Madame Mayor, I move appointment of 771 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:43,200 » Madame Mayor, I move appointment of 772 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600 Kimberly Desawn Jones to the Eustace 773 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,960 Housing Authority Board. 774 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,070 >> Second. 775 00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:48,080 » Second. 776 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,029 >> Roll call, please. Commissioner Hawkins, 777 00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:51,039 » Roll call, please. Commissioner Hawkins, 778 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:51,590 >> I. 779 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:51,600 » I. 780 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,549 >> Commissioner Holland, 781 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:52,559 » Commissioner Holland, 782 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:53,029 >> I. 783 00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:53,039 » I. 784 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:54,230 >> Commissioner Asody, 785 00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:54,240 » Commissioner Asody, 786 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:54,870 >> I. 787 00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:54,880 » I. 788 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,070 >> Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 789 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:56,080 » Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 790 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,389 >> I. 791 00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:56,399 » I. 792 00:29:56,399 --> 00:29:57,590 >> Mayor Lee, 793 00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:57,600 » Mayor Lee, 794 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,430 >> I. 795 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:59,440 » I. 796 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,925 It will go on to audience to be heard. 797 00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:03,440 [snorts] If you have comments this 798 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,240 evening, please complete a card from our 799 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,320 city clerk. 800 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Approach the podium and please speak 801 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,600 directly into the mic. State your name 802 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,600 and whether or not you live in the um 803 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,880 city of EUs. Um keep in mind that we as 804 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,440 commissioners may not respond, but staff 805 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,320 will be directed to get back to you. And 806 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,000 most importantly, remember you have 807 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,880 three minutes. Thank you. 808 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,159 Yes. 809 00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:32,149 >> Oh, is she? We've got cards. 810 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:32,159 » Oh, is she? We've got cards. 811 00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:33,750 >> No, we have to wait for the cards to be 812 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:33,760 » No, we have to wait for the cards to be 813 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,720 called. 814 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,149 >> Thank you. 815 00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:36,159 » Thank you. 816 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:37,990 >> Um, first card received was Gary 817 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:38,000 » Um, first card received was Gary 818 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:50,470 Winheim. 819 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,320 » Gary Winheim, Unincorporated Lake 820 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,840 County. I'm going to play brief audio. 821 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,630 >> You came in. You talked to everybody but 822 00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:58,640 » You came in. You talked to everybody but 823 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,480 me because you were told I I didn't need 824 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,520 to be here because Ron didn't like me. 825 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,909 >> Ron did say that. But I hold on. That's 826 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:05,919 » Ron did say that. But I hold on. That's 827 00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:07,360 not true. But Ron did say that. Which 828 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,600 one is 829 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,789 >> No, that I didn't want that. I need to 830 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:08,799 » No, that I didn't want that. I need to 831 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,279 talk to you. I talk to you all the time. 832 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:12,310 >> This is the important part. 833 00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:12,320 » This is the important part. 834 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,269 >> And there was never going to be a 835 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:13,279 » And there was never going to be a 836 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:14,880 number, too. Just so you know, this 837 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,110 town's too small to have 838 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,120 » that was recorded in November of 2024. 839 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,559 That's Chief Capri telling me this town 840 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:23,919 is too small for the department to have 841 00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:25,840 a deputy chief. a position you just 842 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,679 approved in next year's budget. 843 00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:29,200 Previously, the department had a deputy 844 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,640 chief and two lieutenants. And when the 845 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,880 former deputy chief retired in 2014, the 846 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120 third lieutenant position was created, 847 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,720 and the deputy chief position became 848 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,880 unfunded. The three lieutenant positions 849 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,559 became captains with no pay adjustment 850 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,080 to get the title in line with their job 851 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,080 duties. Now, you are again funding the 852 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,159 deputy chief, a position that less than 853 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:47,600 two years ago, your chief said was 854 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,919 unnecessary in a town this size. What 855 00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:52,000 changed? Not the number of officers or 856 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,080 the overall size of the city. The 857 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,519 department budget has certainly changed 858 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:56,960 nearly doubling in five years under 859 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440 Capri in this position. Is this position 860 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,039 needed because Capri is by his own 861 00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:03,600 admission not an admin guy? Prior police 862 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,039 chiefs were able to run the agency 863 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:06,640 without a deputy chief position and the 864 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,799 cost associated with it. If Capri isn't 865 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,159 able to do that, perhaps you have the 866 00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,080 wrong guy as chief. My guess is he's 867 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,440 planning on bringing another Daytona 868 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,720 crony to try and insulate himself 869 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,159 further, much like he did by bringing 870 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:19,039 Sergeant Barnett. I was hoping to update 871 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,399 you on the chaplain program, but I've 872 00:32:20,399 --> 00:32:21,919 been unable to get any information. 873 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:24,000 People tell us things and then we try to 874 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080 verify them. And we were told by a 875 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000 chaplain and her companion while at a 876 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,080 conference paid for paid for by the 877 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,240 department had a nearly $1,500 room 878 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,240 service bill. I've asked every way I 879 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,679 know how to find out how chaplain 880 00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:37,440 program is funded. And for some reason, 881 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,440 there's no documentation on the process, 882 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,679 no line item in the budget, no receipts 883 00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:43,360 through finance or purchasing, no 884 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,240 tracking on spending whatsoever. You're 885 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760 a numbers guy. This makes no sense. 886 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,600 Obviously, there's money being spent. 887 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,039 You've all seen the shirts and some of 888 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:54,480 you have attended the functions they're 889 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,039 involved with. How is there no record in 890 00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:58,960 regard to what this program with 10 891 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360 chaplain in a town too small for a 892 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,399 deputy chief cost the taxpayers? And 893 00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:05,840 talking about money and documentation, 894 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000 whatever happened with the nearly 28,000 895 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,240 that you all voted to put into the 896 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,960 forfeite fund that was or wasn't 897 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,279 overdrafted, that subject went away 898 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:16,880 after Capri stood here shaking his fist 899 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,320 talking about angry people and fake 900 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,159 news, but the questions were never 901 00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,480 answered. I've watched a lot of body cam 902 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880 footage lately, and I'll tell you, I I 903 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,320 feel bad for the command staff and the 904 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,399 sergeants. They are the only ones with 905 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:31,120 any experience left at EPD. They're so 906 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,039 busy trying to mitigate the mistakes 907 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:34,640 these new officers are making with bad 908 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,559 tactics and a lack of basic legal 909 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,360 knowledge while trying not to incur the 910 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440 wrath of their bully chief. You don't 911 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600 need a deputy chief. Save the money for 912 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,240 the the impending lawsuits. You need a 913 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,559 chief capable of admin duties, not a 914 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,320 liar who's busy trying to buy people's 915 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,240 loyalty instead of properly running his 916 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,430 agency. Thank you for your time. 917 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:08,869 Kelly Guthrie. 918 00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:18,149 » I think the clerk has 919 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:24,550 » yellow. 920 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:31,990 » I don't want yellow. 921 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,069 I got 922 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:36,480 one. 923 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,589 >> You want to have one? 924 00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:37,599 » You want to have one? 925 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:38,310 >> One more. 926 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:38,320 » One more. 927 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,190 >> One more. 928 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:39,200 » One more. 929 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:45,534 >> Yep. 930 00:34:45,544 --> 00:34:47,280 [clears throat] 931 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,149 >> Emily, 932 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:48,159 » Emily, 933 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:48,790 >> she has one. 934 00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:48,800 » she has one. 935 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,790 >> Yes, I 936 00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:50,800 » Yes, I 937 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,510 >> You ready for her? 938 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:51,520 » You ready for her? 939 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,710 >> Oh, yes. Go ahead. 940 00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:52,720 » Oh, yes. Go ahead. 941 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:53,990 >> Yes, ma'am. 942 00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:54,000 » Yes, ma'am. 943 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,829 >> Good evening. My name is Kelly Guppy and 944 00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:55,839 » Good evening. My name is Kelly Guppy and 945 00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:57,520 I'm going to speak very quickly due to a 946 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520 threeminut time limit. I would like to 947 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,800 start this evening by saying I'm a 948 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,720 lifelong resident of Eustus. I am 50 949 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,480 years old. I lived in the same house on 950 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,079 East Lake Joanna Drive from the day I 951 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,440 was born until the day I got married to 952 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,079 my husband of 27 years. Today, my 953 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:11,599 husband and I lived in a house 10 houses 954 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,440 down from the exact same house I grew up 955 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,920 in. While growing up, I attended 956 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,760 elementary, middle, and high school. My 957 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,200 mom was a kindergarten teacher at Usus 958 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,119 Elementary while I attended. My father, 959 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,640 Paul Guthrie, was an associate pastor at 960 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,079 First Baptist Eustace, now known as 961 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,720 LifePoint Church. I graduated from UCF 962 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,720 with a teaching degree in 1998 and 963 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,320 immediately beca began my teaching 964 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,440 career in Eustace schools until 2024. I 965 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,040 retired this past May from Tarious 966 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,480 Middle just short of 30 years from the 967 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,640 day I began teaching. My grandfather, 968 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,240 Casey Jones, built one of the very first 969 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:41,680 houses on Lake Joanna, and he's 970 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,880 responsible for bringing the telephone 971 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,359 lines across 441 to Lake Joanna. The 972 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:46,640 home my husband and I built and 973 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,800 currently live in is one of a couple 974 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,160 properties that my grandfather obtained 975 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,440 on Lake Joanna after the Great 976 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,040 Depression and the historic US gun and 977 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,200 golf club closed. My grandfather also 978 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,800 owned and began Jones Brothers Feed 979 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640 Benson Oil which is now known as Harris 980 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,119 Oil in Mount Dora. Needless to say, I 981 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,560 have deep roots and great history in the 982 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,079 city of Eustus and I cherish this town 983 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,560 that I live in. I am here to express 984 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,079 great concern for the future of the US 985 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:09,599 Community Center building. For over a 986 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,119 year now, the US city commission has 987 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,560 been considering turning over this new 988 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,079 center to Siner Green owned by Joe and 989 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,640 Denell Haer. I have a great concern and 990 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640 in whom the city is potentially 991 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,320 partnering with two people whom have 992 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,359 extremely questionable business 993 00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,599 practices in the past and present. This 994 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,480 includes an over $200,000 uh unsatisfied 995 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,720 IRS tax lean levied against them for 996 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,040 unpaid taxes. And also looking at Lake 997 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,240 County public records, there is a 998 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,200 currently $3.38 million in leans against 999 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,480 the hoppers for unpaid work. As I say 1000 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,760 before, I've been a teacher for nearly 1001 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,280 three decades in the city of USUS. I 1002 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,400 have an excellent reputation of 1003 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,920 integrity that I built for myself, which 1004 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,119 include being voted teacher of the year 1005 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:46,480 multiple times as well as finalist for 1006 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,320 Lake County's teacher of the year. I was 1007 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,599 even awarded you as teacher of the year 1008 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,079 by the US Chamber of Commerce. 1009 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:53,839 I'm honest and I protect my integrity. 1010 00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:55,359 However, last summer after I publicly 1011 00:36:55,359 --> 00:36:57,280 stated on Facebook my feelings and 1012 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,800 thoughts about the huddle development, 1013 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,320 the Hoffers filed a formal written 1014 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,720 complaint against me containing lies um 1015 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,640 with Florida's Department of Education. 1016 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Formal complaints are usually reserved 1017 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,359 for things such as child and sexual 1018 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:09,440 misconduct, child abuse, excuse me. I 1019 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,119 had to hire a lawyer, Derek Schroth, and 1020 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:12,480 defend myself. I was found to have no 1021 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,599 wrongdoing by both the Florida 1022 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,119 Department of Education and the Florida 1023 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:16,640 Lake County School Board. When the 1024 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,119 Hoppers were notified in retaliation, 1025 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,359 they refiled a second time against me. 1026 00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:22,960 The second complaint was also dismissed 1027 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,599 against me. I have a grave concern with 1028 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,119 you associating themselves with a 1029 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:28,640 company whom is known for not paying 1030 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,320 their bills to our local business owners 1031 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,920 and the federal government. What does 1032 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,920 that say about our city? What will 1033 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,680 happen when the IRS inevitably takes 1034 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,119 action against the hoofers when they are 1035 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:38,560 in the middle of building a hotel for 1036 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,240 the city of Eustace and is not even in 1037 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,480 line with the culture of Eustace? We 1038 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560 situs will be left with financial 1039 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,160 disaster and a cleanup that Eustus 1040 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,960 cannot afford. What I provided you with 1041 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,839 was a copy of a few of the many lawsuits 1042 00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:56,720 current against the Hoppers. It's a lot 1043 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:57,440 of money. 1044 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,726 >> Thank you. 1045 00:38:00,736 --> 00:38:01,119 » [applause] 1046 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,589 >> No, please. We will not have that. No 1047 00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:03,599 » No, please. We will not have that. No 1048 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,920 clapping. Please, let's just do this and 1049 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,880 get it done, please. 1050 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,589 >> Next. 1051 00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:09,599 » Next. 1052 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:22,150 >> Next card. Carrie Shrier. 1053 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,560 Okay. Good evening, mayor and 1054 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,160 commissioners. My name is Carrie Shrier. 1055 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,920 I am not a resident. My son Jordan Ellis 1056 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,520 lived in Eustace until his passing last 1057 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,200 July. Over the past year, I've spent 1058 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,720 countless hours obtaining records, 1059 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,160 reviewing evidence, and investigating 1060 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,359 not only what happened to Jordan, but 1061 00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:37,119 the investigation that followed. Today, 1062 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:38,560 I'm here because of Chief Capri's 1063 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,320 leadership and this city's continued 1064 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,119 failure to to address it. In August of 1065 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,400 last year, while Jordan's phone was 1066 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,839 still in law enforcement custody, we 1067 00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:47,280 discovered it had been altered. We went 1068 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,640 to the department and showed Sergeant 1069 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,400 Barnett the evidence. He dismissed our 1070 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,680 concerns and did nothing with the 1071 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,520 information. Last I checked, evidence 1072 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,200 tampering is a crime. Or does that not 1073 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,440 apply to law enforcement? In December, 1074 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,960 after questioning the records department 1075 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,720 about missing records, missing reports, 1076 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,119 and more, Chief Capri inter interjected 1077 00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,800 into our emails and asked me to come in 1078 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,480 so we could work things out. I asked 1079 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,000 instead to keep our communications in 1080 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,440 writing and sent him a detailed letter 1081 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,359 of many of my concerns. After that, 1082 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:12,960 Chief Capri told me further discussions 1083 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,640 would not yield productive outcomes. 1084 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,160 Yet, public records show that around the 1085 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,680 same time, Sergeant Barnett was emailing 1086 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,200 Lake County personnel trying to locate 1087 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,960 the chain of custody for Jordan's phone. 1088 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,720 If my concerns weren't worth discussing, 1089 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:23,920 why were they suddenly trying to 1090 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,839 reconstruct the evidence trail? After 1091 00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:27,520 both my son Devon and I filed formal 1092 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,880 complaints, eventually Chief Capri 1093 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,560 directed Captain Fanning to conduct an 1094 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,880 administrative review. It found it found 1095 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,640 policy violations resulted in incident 1096 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,920 reports and repeatedly states that 1097 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,359 interviews were needed to determine what 1098 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:39,040 actually happened. Instead of opening an 1099 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,480 internal affairs investigation, then 1100 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,880 Chief Capri closed the matter. Only 1101 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480 after repeated public pressure was an 1102 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,320 investigation finally open months later. 1103 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,160 June 24th, Chief Capri gave me an 1104 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,560 internal affairs case number. June 25th, 1105 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,920 I was told the investigation had been 1106 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,839 assigned to an outside agency. June 1107 00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:55,760 29th, Detective Kenninger submitted his 1108 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,839 resignation. July 1st, the outside 1109 00:39:57,839 --> 00:39:59,280 agency confirmed it had received the 1110 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,599 investigation. July 2nd, after speaking 1111 00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:03,119 with Chief Capri, Detective Kenninger's 1112 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:04,320 remaining notice was waved and his 1113 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,240 employment ended that day. Why does this 1114 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:07,760 timely matter? Because under Florida 1115 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,520 law, there is a 180day limit to complete 1116 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,359 internal affairs investigations. When 1117 00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:12,880 investigations are unnecessarily 1118 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,320 delayed, meaningful administrative 1119 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,720 discipline can become impossible. This 1120 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,160 investigation did not get handed over to 1121 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,320 Claremont until this 180 days was nearly 1122 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,400 up. Chief Capri has described himself as 1123 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,480 not an admin guy. Respectfully, being an 1124 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,400 admin guy is the job. And if you're not 1125 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,680 an administration guy, you probably 1126 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,640 shouldn't be running a police 1127 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,480 department. From where I stand, after 1128 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,839 everything I've laid out, this appears 1129 00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:33,920 intentional. Delay, delay, delay. Then 1130 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,280 suddenly, the detective puts in his 1131 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,640 resignation in just the right amount of 1132 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,000 time so he can go to another department 1133 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,839 unscathed. My son's case has been a 1134 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:41,599 cover up game from the beginning. What's 1135 00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,119 even more troubling is that my family's 1136 00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:44,320 experience is not the first time 1137 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,520 concerns have been raised about Chief 1138 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,440 Capri's leadership. Yet, this city has 1139 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,440 continued to keep him in charge. Because 1140 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,040 ultimately this responsibility belongs 1141 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,960 to the city. For months you were copied 1142 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,760 in on emails documenting these concerns. 1143 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,040 You were made aware. You remained 1144 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,800 silent. You hired him. You chose to keep 1145 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,319 him. When are you going to hold him 1146 00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:04,230 accountable? 1147 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:05,200 » Next. 1148 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,829 >> George Warren. 1149 00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:14,960 » Oh. Um hello commission. My name is 1150 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,599 George Warren. Sorry about the voice. 1151 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,079 Um, 1152 00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,319 I don't know what to say not about that 1153 00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:25,119 subject. Um, I'm sure that's that's a 1154 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:29,040 lot of stuff, but the as far as the uh 1155 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,880 community considered, but I trust you 1156 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,760 guys to do the right thing and uh so I 1157 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,760 think that's it's going to be a tough 1158 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,760 tough job. Well, I know where you're 1159 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,960 coming from. Uh, but if uh I think you 1160 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,400 did the right decision tonight to go 1161 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,119 ahead and see what's going to happen, 1162 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,359 right? And um I don't know I have to 1163 00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:51,520 correct Gary a little bit. Um in the 1164 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,200 last 20 years there has been investment 1165 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,000 in downtown but I'm just kidding you. It 1166 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,880 was $750,000 that we did that building 1167 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,079 with. So that 1168 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,309 >> any new any new development 1169 00:42:02,309 --> 00:42:02,319 » any new any new development 1170 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:04,870 >> there you go. Okay. 1171 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:04,880 » there you go. Okay. 1172 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,160 I'll accept your apology. 1173 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,190 >> Right. [laughter] 1174 00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:07,200 » Right. [laughter] 1175 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,510 >> But anyway guys I know you're gonna do 1176 00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:09,520 » But anyway guys I know you're gonna do 1177 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,160 the it's a hard job that you've got. 1178 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,400 sort of thankless sometimes uh because 1179 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,319 you put in a lot of work. You can't 1180 00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:19,440 please everybody and I know that. Um so 1181 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,920 I'm on your side. So that's all I got to 1182 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,359 say. Rick, you're doing a good job, 1183 00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:24,720 buddy. But you're just going to be here 1184 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,599 for a little bit. Just kidding. 1185 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:28,150 >> Thank you. 1186 00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:28,160 » Thank you. 1187 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,270 >> Thank you. 1188 00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:29,280 » Thank you. 1189 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:40,230 >> Thanks, George. Daniel Devonza. 1190 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,119 » Good evening. [clears throat] My name is 1191 00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:42,800 Daniel Devonanzo. I'm a local business 1192 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,680 owner. I've been here since uh the early 1193 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,079 90s 92 and I will tell you uh with 1194 00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:52,560 regard to development I had to endure 1195 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,960 Neil Fischer erra realy who thought he 1196 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,520 was going to save us. I had to endure 1197 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,359 Greg Mack who had every idea under the 1198 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:01,520 sun but never did anything. I had to 1199 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,920 endure Danny Teams who was going to 1200 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,624 redevelop Eustace and where is he today? 1201 00:43:06,624 --> 00:43:08,079 [clears throat] Um and by this way the 1202 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,240 city had a not too pleasant ending with 1203 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:14,160 him. Uh we also had to deal in my opin 1204 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,480 opinion with uh G3C2 1205 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,800 who provided us basically elementary 1206 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,160 school conception plans and uh with no 1207 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,920 background. But you know what? There 1208 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,440 were those that wanted to push ahead. 1209 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,119 Let's push ahead. Let's get something 1210 00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:34,000 done. And now we have a group and we 1211 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,280 hear spirious rumors and uh charges 1212 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,839 which by the way I have looked into uh 1213 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:41,359 the current developers background 1214 00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:44,000 extensively. I've had very specific 1215 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,839 questions with them because I've had 1216 00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:47,599 people come to me and say well you know 1217 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:49,200 they did this you know they did that. 1218 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,119 Let me tell you how development works. 1219 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:52,480 First of all there will be a bond in 1220 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,079 place. Second of all, the city will have 1221 00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:55,280 numerous with through the attorneys 1222 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,119 that'll use it, which by the way, we'll 1223 00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,880 be spending money on, but it'll be good 1224 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,800 money spent that will protect the city 1225 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,880 against any, shall we say, project 1226 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,440 derailment, delays, or exposure, 1227 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,599 including potentially bankruptcy. And 1228 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,280 you know that a bond will be in place to 1229 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,640 asssure that the construction is 1230 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,240 completed. I don't know how many people 1231 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:13,520 in this room understand what a 1232 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,319 construction bond is. Uh the next thing 1233 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,720 that I'll also advise you to, let's talk 1234 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,200 about moving forward. Since 1992 when I 1235 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,079 came here, I can tell you um I've built, 1236 00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:25,520 designed, and built the last four 1237 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,520 buildings that were built here. I own 1238 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,440 numerous buildings. I have over 60 1239 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,880 employees. Um I want to thank all of our 1240 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,880 uh third, second, and third generation 1241 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,319 business operators who have hung in 1242 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:39,040 there. George Warren, Bay Pharmacy, Mary 1243 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,720 Jeweler, Mary uh Judy Mary, Mary Mary 1244 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:43,599 Jewelers, the Porters, David uh with 1245 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,079 Porter Camera, Cards and Gifts, and you 1246 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:47,920 know we Oh, how about Kevin and Penny 1247 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,400 Janess with Peddler's Wagon downtown 1248 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,760 anchors that have hung in there and you 1249 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,800 know what's happened downtown? Nothing. 1250 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,440 Nothing. So, we finally got a commission 1251 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,880 and I want to thank you all for being 1252 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,040 proactive and for doing something ahead. 1253 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,599 one. I have a hard time saying to know 1254 00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:05,359 somebody that wanted to enter into just 1255 00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:07,760 some discussion to get to a potential 1256 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480 agreement that's going to o offer over 1257 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,560 150 jobs. And by the way, I looked at 1258 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,880 their jobs proposal and I know from what 1259 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,720 I pay how much money that's going to 1260 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,400 bring. Do you know I want to explain 1261 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,200 something else to you. I am estimate 1262 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,359 that their taxable value will be at 1263 00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:26,720 minimum 1.4 million a year. Do you know 1264 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,119 how many houses that will cover that are 1265 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:30,319 going to go off the tax roll under 1266 00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:33,440 Dantis's plan? Over a thousand. 1267 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,960 A thousand houses that are going to go 1268 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,079 off the tax roll. That one project, one 1269 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,000 project is going to make up for that. 1270 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,920 So, you're going to have employment, 1271 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,119 you're going to have opportunities, and 1272 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:44,800 it's going to put us on the map. Thank 1273 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,079 you. 1274 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,190 >> Thanks, Shane. 1275 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:49,200 » Thanks, Shane. 1276 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:56,390 >> Dedra D. Lewis. 1277 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,119 Good evening. Thank you, Dear Lewis, 1 1278 00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,520 1992 Meadowside Drive, Eustace, Florida 1279 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,760 32726. 1280 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,280 Few months ago, you guys talked about 1281 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,839 this same project at that time. You 1282 00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:10,000 talked about where would the citizens go 1283 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,480 if you sold the community center. You 1284 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,560 didn't have an idea. you wanted to get 1285 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,319 the previous city um attorney to put out 1286 00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:21,200 a RFQ that included 1287 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,319 putting in their system to pay for a 1288 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:26,240 community center for the city of 1289 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:29,839 Eustace. Now we're here. I've worked for 1290 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:32,400 developers. I work in construction and I 1291 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,520 work in medical. You are about to give 1292 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,800 an advantage to these people over 30 1293 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,280 days for any other developer to come in. 1294 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,079 That is totally unfair. Now, in most 1295 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:45,680 construction, that means there's been 1296 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,839 some backdoor communication because I 1297 00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:49,280 don't know anybody who would spend that 1298 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,599 much money to develop something when 1299 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,920 they don't even have approval. That's 1300 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,040 that's unreal. That's unheard of. And as 1301 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,280 Barack used to say, I don't think that 1302 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,800 was a good waste of good time of 1303 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,720 spending of your money. Here's the 1304 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,359 thing. People need an opportunity. The 1305 00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:07,920 citizens needed an opportunity. Now, you 1306 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,560 told us that you sold the um senior 1307 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,040 center. Did you sell it or did you not? 1308 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,440 Someone else is using it and has the 1309 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,680 control of it. We citizens don't get to 1310 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,680 always go and use it. The community 1311 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,640 garden is not big enough. Th that's one 1312 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,359 thing. The second thing, you're putting 1313 00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:28,800 a hundred or almost $200,000 into grass 1314 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,160 for a field and you haven't put handicap 1315 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,400 um tables for the community garden. You 1316 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,800 can't get to the community garden. You 1317 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,160 can't do anything with the community 1318 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,400 garden. No one answers you back when you 1319 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,319 call about the community garden. Since 1320 00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:44,880 returning to Eustace, I have had a lot 1321 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,200 of your citizens ask me to please come 1322 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,440 back and start the community garden. I 1323 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,599 have tried and I have not been able to 1324 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,400 get anybody from your um recreation 1325 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,200 department to talk to me. You also want 1326 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,599 to put in $200,000 worth of grass and 1327 00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:01,280 you haven't done anything with the 1328 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,440 promise that you made over there with 1329 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,000 Miss Lewis when her daughters died. 1330 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,599 You've put mulch around the fire 1331 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,839 station, but that section has been 1332 00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:12,319 buried and you did a whole ceremony. It 1333 00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:14,720 is time out for ceremonies. It is time 1334 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,200 for you guys to put up what you 1335 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,520 promised. You haven't done anything with 1336 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,119 the pavilion down in um east town. You 1337 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,760 put a gateway to nowhere. You haven't 1338 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,160 done anything with it. Citizens are 1339 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,960 getting tired of not getting what you 1340 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440 promised them. Please consider these 1341 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,800 things when you decide to spend this 1342 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,200 kind of money. As far as the library, I 1343 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,200 think it's a wonderful thing. But I do 1344 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,200 want to ask you, is it going to be open 1345 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,040 on Saturday since you're about to spend 1346 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,359 $160,000 to renovate that? 1347 00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:48,720 Because that was something we talked 1348 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,520 about as well. Something I know that the 1349 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,839 librarian had talked about, but it still 1350 00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:55,760 hasn't been done. How are we supposed to 1351 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,680 use the library with our kids come for 1352 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,000 reading sessions if it's only open 1353 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,359 during the week? Ma'am, 1354 00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:03,430 >> so as you play that, please consider it. 1355 00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:03,440 » so as you play that, please consider it. 1356 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,430 Thank you. 1357 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,800 » Pam sentence. 1358 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,950 >> Chief, smile at me. Chief, smile. 1359 00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:14,960 » Chief, smile at me. Chief, smile. 1360 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,640 All right. I'm here to talk about the 1361 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,040 community center. First of all, don't 1362 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,280 y'all let them take our community center 1363 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,960 because that community center got 1364 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,079 memories. It got love. People live down 1365 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:27,920 there. We got this man here can't even 1366 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,319 talk coming here to represent himself. 1367 00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:32,640 What do we need a hotel for the brao 1368 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,359 germs in our community when we already 1369 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:38,640 got our own germs? They got their own 1370 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,319 money. We is just fine and uses building 1371 00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:44,880 all these stoages. Take all them places 1372 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,800 where you building stoages. Go build a 1373 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,400 hotel what you want. Stop building all 1374 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,160 these stoages. Ain't that much moving 1375 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,280 and going on? So me, myself, and a lot 1376 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,680 of more us here, we stand behind the 1377 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,839 community center. These folks over here 1378 00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:00,160 got money. Go out there where y'all live 1379 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,240 at and build whatever y'all want to 1380 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,960 build. But let us be. Do not get rid of 1381 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,440 our community center. We got folks live 1382 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,760 down there. We got folks love down 1383 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,200 there. Do not do that for us for them 1384 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200 because they got money. Money is not 1385 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,760 everything. But money is very important. 1386 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,839 But still in all again that community 1387 00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:23,280 center holds too much memories and love. 1388 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,359 Okay. So now when they take care of the 1389 00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:27,680 building where we got to go 1390 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,910 >> in the yard then when you go in the yard 1391 00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:29,920 » in the yard then when you go in the yard 1392 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,160 it's a problem the music too loud or 1393 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,720 something is wrong. Do not give them 1394 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,480 folks over there and I wish they was 1395 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,960 here to hear me. Do not give them folks 1396 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,720 over there 1397 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:43,280 that community center because there's 1398 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,440 nothing wrong with that community center 1399 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,839 and we need that community center. We 1400 00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:49,359 have nowhere to go. Just like they say 1401 00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:52,079 the garden room is too small. So, don't 1402 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:55,920 give them what they want. Again, please. 1403 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,079 And no, I ain't f to sit down. I'm f to 1404 00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,640 talk my minutes out because number one, 1405 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,559 I don't like it. I don't appreciate I 1406 00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:04,319 got to be down here in the rain cuz this 1407 00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:05,520 is something we shouldn't even have to 1408 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,920 be down here for for y'all to even have 1409 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,240 a thought to get them people that 1410 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,839 building and all that stuff. This man 1411 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:14,319 been here 63 years before I was even 1412 00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:16,160 born. Now, y'all mean to tell me y'all 1413 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,000 going to go move him out the spot to 1414 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,079 bring them? No, no, no, no. Stay out 1415 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:22,480 there in Lock Haven. Wherever y'all at, 1416 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,559 build whatever y'all need out there. Do 1417 00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,640 whatever y'all need to do out there. 1418 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,079 Leave us alone. We're just fine. Okay, 1419 00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,079 now it's time for the George Washington 1420 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:34,319 parade. Now you got the motel sitting up 1421 00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:35,680 there. Whatever they trying to do. I 1422 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,040 don't know, but I'm against it. I don't 1423 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,960 care what it is. But the main thing, oh, 1424 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,960 I got some more time. I got plenty of 1425 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,280 time. 1426 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:41,990 >> Nope. 1427 00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:42,000 » Nope. 1428 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,109 >> Oh, I got it on time. 1429 00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:43,119 » Oh, I got it on time. 1430 00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:45,030 >> I know you I know you saw the timer get 1431 00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:45,040 » I know you I know you saw the timer get 1432 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,520 started late. Your time your time's up. 1433 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,680 Every time I get up, y'all do it. I got 1434 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,240 sit down. I can get 1435 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:55,109 >> Okay. 1436 00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:55,119 » Okay. 1437 00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,359 Y'all do me wrong every time I 1438 00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:14,069 >> Isaac Thomas. 1439 00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:17,280 Good evening, commissioners. 1440 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,800 city manager and attorney. You all know 1441 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,400 who I am. I am here on behalf of the 1442 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,160 Eustace Community Center. Also, I've 1443 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,119 been sitting up there with you all for 1444 00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:35,359 three and a half years on the CRA. I was 1445 00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:38,640 your first CRA rep 1446 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,480 and I am sick and tired of everything 1447 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,960 being taken away in the CRA. 1448 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,480 Stop taking away money and put money in 1449 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,960 the CRA. 1450 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,960 It's wrong. It is so wrong. And that 1451 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,160 clock is not right. 1452 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,549 >> It's running here. You're at 45 seconds. 1453 00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:02,559 » It's running here. You're at 45 seconds. 1454 00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:04,870 >> It is not right. I did not come up here 1455 00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:04,880 » It is not right. I did not come up here 1456 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,760 with 3 minutes. 1457 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,630 >> No. No. But anyway, 1458 00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:06,640 » No. No. But anyway, 1459 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,309 >> it's running till three. It's going to 1460 00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:08,319 » it's running till three. It's going to 1461 00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:09,680 It's going to go It's going up. 1462 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,990 >> So, Pam, you still had some time. 1463 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:14,000 » So, Pam, you still had some time. 1464 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,240 But anyway, like I said last week when I 1465 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,960 was here two weeks ago to give a 1466 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,359 $100,000 to American Bloom Eustace Bloom 1467 00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:29,440 out of the CRA fund. Wrong. That's 1468 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,760 wrong. I don't care how you try to use 1469 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,079 it for beautifification. 1470 00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,440 Like I said two weeks ago, flowers are 1471 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,760 not in our CR 1472 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,680 and that is wrong. Now here we are again 1473 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,760 giving away 1474 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,160 in the CRA. 1475 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,160 Wrong. That's wrong. And you all sitting 1476 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,559 up here, you're not but one person born 1477 00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:02,319 and raised in this city. You don't know 1478 00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:05,599 about the city of Eustace. You only know 1479 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:07,599 about the city of Eustace since you've 1480 00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,520 been here. 1481 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,800 Born and raised here. That community 1482 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,599 center as Pam Simmons as you all call 1483 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,119 her. Hild the guard pale Simmons is how 1484 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:21,920 I know her. 1485 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,680 She went to Eustace High School while I 1486 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,559 was there. Kelly went to Eustace High 1487 00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:29,359 School while I was there. Many functions 1488 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:32,960 have been done in that community center. 1489 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,040 Why are you all just coming into use 1490 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,640 this morning to wipe away our memories 1491 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,760 by giving away? You giving away land out 1492 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:47,030 here on 44 to Lake Sumpter 1493 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,319 when it could have been given to 1494 00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:51,280 somebody right here in this city. 1495 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,720 Enough is enough. 1496 00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:00,400 And if all the citizens get together, 1497 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,960 and I like each one of you up there, but 1498 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,839 it's time for you to get down because 1499 00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:07,760 you're not doing right by the citizens 1500 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,480 of Eustace. You're doing what's best for 1501 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,520 you. You took that seat because of our 1502 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,190 votes. 1503 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,680 And that's all I'mma say. Remember, 1504 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,040 you're there because of our votes, the 1505 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:28,950 citizens of Eustace. And you're wrong. 1506 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:47,829 Patrice Hatcher. 1507 00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:49,920 » Hopefully I can put some smiles on y'all 1508 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,359 faces now [laughter] after all that. My 1509 00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:55,520 name is Katrice Hatcher and I'm a 1510 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,440 resident of Eustace. I come to you 1511 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,880 before to give you good news. Uh 1512 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,480 first I want to sincerely thank you guys 1513 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,720 from the last meeting. I was able to um 1514 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,760 acquire the Eustace Garden Center for 1515 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,799 the Beyond the Backpack 1516 00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:22,160 and that allowed us to have additional 1517 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,040 funds to go on uh with the program. I'm 1518 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,839 happy to share with you 1519 00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:32,720 uh Orlando Health, whom I've been 1520 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:35,200 employed with for the last 18 and a half 1521 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,240 years, decided to meet me halfway on my 1522 00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:42,880 goal. My goal is to provide 150 kids 1523 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,240 with the uniforms. My budget is 10,000. 1524 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,839 So do the math. 1525 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:54,319 So with that being said, my co-workers 1526 00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:57,839 have volunteered to assist me with this 1527 00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:02,240 adventure by volunteering as well as 1528 00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:05,119 providing some of the funding out of 1529 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:09,359 their pocket. Okay. Texas Roadhouse did 1530 00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:12,000 a Christmas in July 1531 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,480 and contribute all those uh donations to 1532 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,430 the Beyond the Backpack. 1533 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,319 As I stated to you, it's my goal is to 1534 00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:27,599 provide 150 kids with the uniforms. So, 1535 00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:29,839 this is being done by a referral 1536 00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:33,119 process. I've contacted 1537 00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:36,240 Eustace Elementary as well as Eustace 1538 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:42,000 Heights and also Triangle personally um 1539 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,200 to uh let them know about the referral 1540 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:53,430 process which it has already begun. 1541 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,799 Beyond the Backpack will be held Sunday, 1542 00:57:56,799 --> 00:58:00,319 September the 13th at 2:00 p.m. 1543 00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:02,799 at the Eustace Garden Center. And I just 1544 00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:05,200 wanted to personally invite you guys to 1545 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,119 that event so you can see what we're 1546 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:10,480 doing. And that's it. If you have any 1547 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,480 questions, feel free to ask. If anybody 1548 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,440 in the building want to contribute, see 1549 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,680 me. Thank you. 1550 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,839 Um, Rick, will you u will you will you 1551 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:21,599 please make contact with her and give 1552 00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:24,240 her $500 for my uh for my fund for the 1553 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,440 backpack, please? 1554 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:32,150 >> We'll do. 1555 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,280 » Any more cards? 1556 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:50,150 >> Uh, yes, Mayor. Uh, John Labriola. 1557 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,680 Good evening, uh, council. My name is 1558 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,599 John Labriola. I represent the Christian 1559 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,599 Family Coalition. We are a statewide 1560 00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,599 organization dedicated to defending 1561 00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:59,680 religious liberties and, uh, protecting 1562 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,280 family values in Tallahassee and 1563 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,319 throughout the state. During the 1564 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:04,400 session, we're in Tallahassee lobbying 1565 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,480 for um, different legislation. and the 1566 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,200 rest of the year we're before uh county 1567 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,200 school boards and county commissions as 1568 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,440 well as city commissions like yourself 1569 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,520 to ask uh you to do different things. 1570 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,599 I've actually been before your late 1571 00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:19,119 county commission in the past, but this 1572 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,079 is my first time at a US city council 1573 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:23,920 meeting. Um but the reason I'm here 1574 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,880 today is uh because of something called 1575 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,920 book page. It's a magazine. It's a 1576 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,280 national magazine. It's actually 1577 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,440 available in your library here in 1578 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,599 Eustace uh as well as a number of 1579 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,280 libraries throughout the country. And 1580 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,319 it's a very woke uh magazine. It's a 1581 00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:41,920 book review magazine. It's not like a 1582 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,359 regular magazine that's up on the rack. 1583 00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,440 It's available in large quantities. It's 1584 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,040 purchased in large quantities by the 1585 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,440 city and placed in the lobby. I sent you 1586 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,040 an email about this with more details, 1587 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,280 but basically uh this magazine um is 1588 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,160 very woke. It just pushes uh it's a book 1589 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,960 review magazine that only uh recommends 1590 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,839 books that are either of the left or a 1591 01:00:03,839 --> 01:00:05,280 lot of the books in the magazine do not 1592 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,119 have a political bent, but but when they 1593 01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,200 do, they're invariably from the left. 1594 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,359 Things like pushing witchcraft, pushing 1595 01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:13,920 LGBT, um pushing hatred for our 1596 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,000 president. There there are never any 1597 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,760 best-selling conservative authors 1598 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,720 presented. And uh so this is really a 1599 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,559 waste of taxpayer money. And we've been 1600 01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:25,359 before the Citrus County. I live here in 1601 01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:28,480 in central Florida. Um, and we've been 1602 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,079 to to the Citrus County Commission 1603 01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,000 asking them to cancel their subscription 1604 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,160 to it. They cancelled it. Hernando 1605 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,000 County also canceled it. And here in 1606 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,640 Lake County, the Leburg City Council 1607 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,119 recently did so. And yesterday, I was in 1608 01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:43,359 front of the Tavari City Council and 1609 01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:44,720 they made a motion right there at that 1610 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,040 meeting to cancel it. Uh, because this 1611 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,720 particular magazine is also available 1612 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,200 for free online. There's no reason to 1613 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,680 pay for a physical subscription. Um, and 1614 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,280 so I I wanted to just I I brought a few 1615 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,200 copies um which I I'd like to make 1616 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,960 available to the clerk and and uh the 1617 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,920 five commissioners, but this is just the 1618 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,400 current edition, the August edition. And 1619 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,720 um I'll just give you an example on page 1620 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,280 15. Uh there's a book that's 1621 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,599 recommended. It's called Realm Sweep. 1622 01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:15,680 And it's listed under the category of 1623 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,000 for children. Um, and this is a book 1624 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,040 that actually combines witchcraft which 1625 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,400 with a with transgenderism. Um, it it 1626 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,280 it's by an author who is described as a 1627 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,079 I looked her up a radical lesbian. Um, 1628 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:32,960 and this particular book actually 1629 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,799 promotes the idea there. The main 1630 01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:40,720 character is uh called um Rowdy Buckner, 1631 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,319 the prince of Texas. It's actually a 1632 01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:45,440 girl and uh it says that she desperately 1633 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,760 wants a gender affirming transformation 1634 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,799 tonic which is essentially trying to 1635 01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:53,440 push transgenderism on children and we 1636 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,960 feel that that's very inappropriate. So 1637 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,200 please uh ask you to cancel this the 1638 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,079 subscription. Thank you so much 1639 01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,430 >> mayor. The last card is lawyer Laura 1640 01:02:03,430 --> 01:02:03,440 » mayor. The last card is lawyer Laura 1641 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,292 Conurs. 1642 01:02:08,302 --> 01:02:15,109 » [snorts] 1643 01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,839 » Good evening. This is a new place. It's 1644 01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:20,319 beautiful, by the way. Your building is 1645 01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:23,280 beautiful. Um I'm with John with the 1646 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,160 Christian Family Coalition and also um I 1647 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,160 would like to ask you to kindly to 1648 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,240 reduce the um if you can reduce the 1649 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,799 budget but cancel the subscription that 1650 01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:38,559 would be great. Um uh he gave you some 1651 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:42,400 examples of how this magazine really is 1652 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,599 not teaching, it's indoctrinating and 1653 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:48,799 and that is wrong. Um it's already 1654 01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:51,839 online and it never promote um 1655 01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:56,079 conservative um reviews and books. So to 1656 01:02:56,079 --> 01:03:00,160 me it's only one-sided. Um so um we're 1657 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,839 asking you to if you know it will help 1658 01:03:03,839 --> 01:03:07,760 you reduce your your cost of the city. 1659 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,839 So that is um what I came here to kindly 1660 01:03:11,839 --> 01:03:16,000 ask you. Um and so if I have a little 1661 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,920 bit more time 1662 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,720 um also John was uh talking about um to 1663 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,960 me about um if every city could do a 1664 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,760 date of remembrance for it's coming the 1665 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,280 um the time of October 15 coming the 1666 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,880 assassination of Charlie Kirk. If um we 1667 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,200 went to the city of Leisburg and they 1668 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,119 listened to us, we are asking um very 1669 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,680 nice if you can have a day of 1670 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,359 remembrance for him to um in honor of 1671 01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:51,280 his birthday, in honor of what he did 1672 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,680 for our country and um I am thanking you 1673 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,520 for your time. Thank you so much. 1674 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:00,069 >> Thank you. 1675 01:04:00,069 --> 01:04:00,079 » Thank you. 1676 01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:01,910 >> I have no more cards. Mayor, 1677 01:04:01,910 --> 01:04:01,920 » I have no more cards. Mayor, 1678 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:08,814 >> are there is there anyone else who Yes. 1679 01:04:08,824 --> 01:04:16,710 » [clears throat] 1680 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,640 » I'm going over here because I guess the 1681 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,079 video isn't working. That's what I was 1682 01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:21,680 trying to tell you. So, you guys don't 1683 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,440 have it captured on video, the public 1684 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:32,390 speaking. I hope that wasn't on purpose. 1685 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,720 Stephanie Winheim, unincorporated Lake 1686 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,720 County. First, I want to talk about some 1687 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,680 falsified form 61s. This was a problem 1688 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,599 that was going on during the FDLE 1689 01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:43,440 investigation into Chief Capri for 1690 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,119 public corruption and falsifying 1691 01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,039 documents. Well, it looks like they're 1692 01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:49,200 still falsifying documents on the form 1693 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,319 61. I want to let you know per car's 1694 01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:54,079 timeline 1695 01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:56,240 that Kenninger actually didn't leave 1696 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,240 until 72, 1697 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,480 but 1698 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:05,039 the IIA number came out on June 24th, 1699 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,039 which means Kenninger was actively under 1700 01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:09,920 investigation when he resigned. That is 1701 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,319 not what was put on the form 61, 1702 01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:14,640 voluntary separation not involving 1703 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,319 misconduct. So that is falsified to 1704 01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:22,079 FDLE. Once again, I don't know what it's 1705 01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:25,200 going to take, but this is bad. It's not 1706 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,520 admin. It's falsifying documents, which 1707 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,319 is criminal behavior by your chief of 1708 01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:34,319 police. 1709 01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:35,920 Next, 1710 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,039 let's go with ECA. 1711 01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,680 It's interesting that ECA, the community 1712 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,480 Eustace Community Alliance, was formed 1713 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,880 right after Willie Hawkins became a 1714 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,119 commissioner. I don't believe I've asked 1715 01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,520 for emails. I've asked for form 8B 1716 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,079 filings of disclosures. It was never 1717 01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,440 publicly disclo ex disclosed that his 1718 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,400 husband, Ronald Kirk Muscleman, opened 1719 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,799 up the nonprofit. 1720 01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:05,039 That is required. That is an ethics 1721 01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,000 violation. Mr. Hawkins. 1722 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,640 Also, it was never disclosed when they 1723 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,480 received preferential treatment with 1724 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,760 free leases, paid for utility bills by 1725 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,640 taxpayers, and whatever else the city is 1726 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,039 doing with ECA. Those are required 1727 01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:24,880 disclosures. They're within 15 days. 1728 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,640 That's an ethics violation. 1729 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,839 Let's go to Corey Rollfield and Win One 1730 01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:34,480 Ministries, who by the way is taking 1731 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,160 care of the senior center, which you 1732 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,960 guys don't have youth for for the lease. 1733 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,280 So that right there, that money, it was 1734 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,799 $98,000. 1735 01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:45,200 Gary asked about it. I believe Gail 1736 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,760 Isaac Thomas asked about it as well. 1737 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,200 That money was supposed to be going to 1738 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,079 Corey Rolf Field. Gary received an email 1739 01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:55,920 from financial that the $125,000 1740 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,359 was part of that 95 $96,000 1741 01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:01,920 and now it looks like it's coming on the 1742 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,680 consent agenda which I'm asking you to 1743 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,880 pull it that that money is coming from 1744 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,319 sales tax. So, your finance department 1745 01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:12,559 is either sending us the incorrect 1746 01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:15,039 public records or this is just another 1747 01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:17,359 game of shuffling money around instead 1748 01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:19,280 of being transparent, accountable, and 1749 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,599 truthful with the public on what's going 1750 01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:24,000 on. 1751 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,640 Moving on, let's talk about the 1752 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,160 combining of the titles so that you guys 1753 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,359 could circumvent the community property 1754 01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:41,750 being deed for public enjoyment by 1755 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,400 Thank you. 1756 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,029 >> Thank you for 1757 01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:43,039 » Thank you for 1758 01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:49,109 >> and also please get read a book page. 1759 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:51,440 » Anyone else? 1760 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,720 Okay, [clears throat] let's move on to 1761 01:07:52,720 --> 01:08:05,349 the consent agenda. 1762 01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:08,400 » So move on. 1763 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,319 Move approval of the consent agenda 1764 01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:12,390 >> and I'll second it. 1765 01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:12,400 » and I'll second it. 1766 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,789 >> Roll call, please. 1767 01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:14,799 » Roll call, please. 1768 01:08:14,799 --> 01:08:15,990 >> Commissioner Hawkins, 1769 01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:16,000 » Commissioner Hawkins, 1770 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:16,550 >> I. 1771 01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:16,560 » I. 1772 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,669 >> Commissioner Holland, 1773 01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:17,679 » Commissioner Holland, 1774 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:18,070 >> I. 1775 01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:18,080 » I. 1776 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,349 >> Commissioner Asbody, 1777 01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:19,359 » Commissioner Asbody, 1778 01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:19,829 >> I. 1779 01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:19,839 » I. 1780 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:21,030 >> Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 1781 01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:21,040 » Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 1782 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:21,430 >> I. 1783 01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:21,440 » I. 1784 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:22,149 >> Mayor Lee, 1785 01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:22,159 » Mayor Lee, 1786 01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:26,550 >> Idances, 1787 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,880 and public hearings. Madame Mayor, we 1788 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,600 have first tonight for second reading 1789 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,560 ordinance number 2026-28, 1790 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,159 an ordinance of the city commission of 1791 01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:38,159 the city of Eustace, Lake County, 1792 01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:40,239 Florida, approving the annual update of 1793 01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:42,480 the 5-year capital improvement schedule 1794 01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:44,319 of the comprehensive plan under Florida 1795 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:49,269 statutes 163.31773B 1796 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:51,040 providing for conflicting ordinances, 1797 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,319 severability, and effective date. 1798 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:56,229 >> Uh, good evening, Lori Carr, finance 1799 01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:56,239 » Uh, good evening, Lori Carr, finance 1800 01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,159 director. This is the second reading of 1801 01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:01,759 the five-year CIP plan and we uh the 1802 01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:03,920 city commission held a workshop on May 1803 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,359 22nd and there was only one change 1804 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:10,000 between that workshop and the uh first 1805 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,759 reading on July 16th and that was uh 1806 01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:15,839 additional funding for the EOC 1807 01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:19,040 improvements and uh asking seeking for 1808 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,839 approval for the um final adoption of 1809 01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:24,239 the ordinance. 1810 01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:27,440 Do you have any questions? 1811 01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:34,070 questions. Nope. 1812 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,600 » Is there any public comment? 1813 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,269 >> Yeah. 1814 01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:37,279 » Yeah. 1815 01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:38,789 >> Anyone from the public want to speak on 1816 01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:38,799 » Anyone from the public want to speak on 1817 01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:42,640 this matter? Madame Mayor, seeing none. 1818 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,390 >> Madam, mayor, move approval of ordinance 1819 01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:44,400 » Madam, mayor, move approval of ordinance 1820 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,040 number 2026-28. 1821 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,709 >> Second. 1822 01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:48,719 » Second. 1823 01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:50,789 >> Roll call, please. 1824 01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:50,799 » Roll call, please. 1825 01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:51,910 >> Commissioner Hawkins, 1826 01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:51,920 » Commissioner Hawkins, 1827 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:52,550 >> I. 1828 01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:52,560 » I. 1829 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:53,669 >> Commissioner Holland, 1830 01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:53,679 » Commissioner Holland, 1831 01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:55,350 >> I. Commissioner Azbbody. 1832 01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:55,360 » I. Commissioner Azbbody. 1833 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:55,830 >> I, 1834 01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:55,840 » I, 1835 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,030 >> Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 1836 01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:57,040 » Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 1837 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:57,270 >> I. 1838 01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:57,280 » I. 1839 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,070 >> Mayor Lee, 1840 01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:58,080 » Mayor Lee, 1841 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,990 >> I. 1842 01:09:59,990 --> 01:10:00,000 » I. 1843 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000 Madame Mayor, next we have for first 1844 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,120 reading ordinance number 2026-29, 1845 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,560 an ordinance of the city commission of 1846 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,159 the city of Eustace, Lake County, 1847 01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:11,199 Florida, amending chapter 66, article 3, 1848 01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:13,760 regulation of watercraft on Lake Gracie 1849 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,280 of the city of Eustace code of 1850 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,040 ordinances repealing section 66-78 1851 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,880 entitled no petroleum based fuel 1852 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,360 watercraft allowed on Lake Gracie, 1853 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,040 providing legislative findings and 1854 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,120 recital, providing for conflicts, 1855 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,120 providing for severability, providing 1856 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,880 for codific ification and providing for 1857 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,840 an effective date. 1858 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,760 Madame Mayor, after discussions with 1859 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,560 staff, I was going to present this item. 1860 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,480 It's a very narrow cleanup of our code 1861 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,800 as discussed in the staff's report. Uh 1862 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,520 Tallahassee passed the new law dealing 1863 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,000 with regulation petroleum based 1864 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,719 watercraft. We are just striking that 1865 01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:54,560 provision from our ordinances that dealt 1866 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,640 with that and leaving everything else 1867 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,560 the same. Happy to answer any other 1868 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,070 questions. 1869 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,120 » Is 1870 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,950 >> do we have to move approval on that one? 1871 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:04,960 » do we have to move approval on that one? 1872 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,390 >> No, this is just first reading. 1873 01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:06,400 » No, this is just first reading. 1874 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,669 >> Just Okay. First reading. 1875 01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:07,679 » Just Okay. First reading. 1876 01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:09,030 >> Is there anyone from the public that 1877 01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:09,040 » Is there anyone from the public that 1878 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:17,830 would like to speak on this? 1879 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,520 » Thank you. You could please state your 1880 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:20,320 name. 1881 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,870 >> Mary Samario. I live on Lake Gracie 1882 01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:22,880 » Mary Samario. I live on Lake Gracie 1883 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,480 Drive. 1884 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:29,440 I love Lake Gracie. It's It is home for 1885 01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:33,360 sure. Um, talking about putting boats on 1886 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,640 there, I don't know. Has anybody in this 1887 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,960 room been around Lake Gracie lately? 1888 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,960 It's receding. 1889 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,040 Even the duck boxes that are supposed to 1890 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,719 be in the water is now land. Um, there 1891 01:11:48,719 --> 01:11:51,120 are places that I could walk across Lake 1892 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:55,600 Gracie and my name isn't Jesus. 1893 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,400 Um, 1894 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,960 it's I understand I've only been here 1895 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,040 six years, but I understand it was 1896 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,640 springfed at one time and I don't know 1897 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,880 if that has anything to do with it 1898 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,880 getting 1899 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,239 drier, but I just thought before we put 1900 01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:17,920 boats with motors on it, um, might want 1901 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,239 to consider just how big Lake Tracy has 1902 01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:21,520 become. 1903 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,950 >> Mr. attorney. Excuse me. Am I right in 1904 01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:24,960 » Mr. attorney. Excuse me. Am I right in 1905 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,679 understanding or am I wrong this is 1906 01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:29,920 removing or you're allowing them to come 1907 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,800 back in because the state is requiring 1908 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,960 unfortunately the state has preempted us 1909 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,560 once again. But 1910 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,350 >> what we did leave in place is still the 1911 01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:39,360 » what we did leave in place is still the 1912 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,520 no wake zone on Lake Gracie and there's 1913 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,480 a 5 mph speed limit on Lake Gracie. So, 1914 01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:48,159 while gas boats are permitted, we don't 1915 01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:49,920 have an option with that because 1916 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,910 >> well, right now canoes and kayaks are 1917 01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:51,920 » well, right now canoes and kayaks are 1918 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,040 having a hard time. So, 1919 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,229 >> yeah, I don't I don't think it's going 1920 01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:54,239 » yeah, I don't I don't think it's going 1921 01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:55,600 to materialize to anything, but 1922 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,430 >> No, I don't think so either. I just 1923 01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:57,440 » No, I don't think so either. I just 1924 01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:00,400 didn't know if if I know that Lake 1925 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,239 Gracie used to be a whole lot bigger 1926 01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:04,640 before people that have grown up here, 1927 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,000 they talked about how big it was. And 1928 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,480 I'm not sure when it happened that they 1929 01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:14,560 filled in so that the spring dead part 1930 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,320 doesn't come into Lake Gracia. I guess 1931 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,400 they were afraid it was going to get too 1932 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,480 high, too close to the drive, but um I 1933 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:24,560 just didn't know if there was an 1934 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,040 alternative to get the lake a little 1935 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,400 healthier. 1936 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,950 >> Our hands are tied. It's a state 1937 01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:30,960 » Our hands are tied. It's a state 1938 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,750 >> and I I I lived near it and at one time 1939 01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:33,760 » and I I I lived near it and at one time 1940 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,280 it did get very very low and almost like 1941 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,719 no lake at all. and then it refilled and 1942 01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:42,480 hopefully this is like a periodic thing 1943 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:44,400 and it'll come back 1944 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,830 >> but um we have no no control over this 1945 01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:47,840 » but um we have no no control over this 1946 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,560 as far as the state mandate. 1947 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,669 >> Well, thank you. 1948 01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:51,679 » Well, thank you. 1949 01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:53,350 >> Thank you. 1950 01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:53,360 » Thank you. 1951 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:54,709 >> Is there anyone else that would like to 1952 01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:54,719 » Is there anyone else that would like to 1953 01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:58,080 speak on this matter? [clears throat] 1954 01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,920 And Madame Mayor, there's no motion 1955 01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,440 needed tonight. So, I'll turn it back 1956 01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:02,400 over to 1957 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:02,790 >> Okay, 1958 01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:02,800 » Okay, 1959 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,030 >> you. 1960 01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:05,040 » you. 1961 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,910 >> Okay. So, um, we'll go to other business 1962 01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:07,920 » Okay. So, um, we'll go to other business 1963 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,440 and discussion of the city commission 1964 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,920 meeting minutes. 1965 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:17,110 >> Uh, yes, mayor. Um, on the June 18th 1966 01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:17,120 » Uh, yes, mayor. Um, on the June 18th 1967 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,719 commission meeting this year, 1968 01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:22,790 >> we need to take a vote on that, please. 1969 01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:22,800 » we need to take a vote on that, please. 1970 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,709 >> Yeah, there has to be a vote taken on 1971 01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:24,719 » Yeah, there has to be a vote taken on 1972 01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:25,600 that. 1973 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,350 >> On this 1974 01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:27,360 » On this 1975 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,870 >> on the first reading of ordinance number 1976 01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:28,880 » on the first reading of ordinance number 1977 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,960 202629, 1978 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,550 >> we had the public hearing. Now, we need 1979 01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:32,560 » we had the public hearing. Now, we need 1980 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,400 to take a vote on motion and second. I 1981 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,800 move approval of ordinance 2026 fast- 1982 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,480 29. 1983 01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:40,550 >> Second. 1984 01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:40,560 » Second. 1985 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,830 >> Roll call, please. 1986 01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:41,840 » Roll call, please. 1987 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:42,870 >> Commissioner Hawkins, 1988 01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:42,880 » Commissioner Hawkins, 1989 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:43,430 >> I. 1990 01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:43,440 » I. 1991 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:44,470 >> Commissioner Holland, 1992 01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:44,480 » Commissioner Holland, 1993 01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:44,870 >> I. 1994 01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:44,880 » I. 1995 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,229 >> Commissioner Ozbody, 1996 01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:46,239 » Commissioner Ozbody, 1997 01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:46,630 >> I. 1998 01:14:46,630 --> 01:14:46,640 » I. 1999 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:47,910 >> Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 2000 01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:47,920 » Vice Mayor Ashcraft, 2001 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:48,310 >> I. 2002 01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:48,320 » I. 2003 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,110 >> Mayor Lee, 2004 01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:49,120 » Mayor Lee, 2005 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,229 >> I. 2006 01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:57,600 on um on June 18th um I presented a 2007 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,239 discussion we started a discussion about 2008 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:02,800 the preparation of the meeting minutes 2009 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:07,360 and kind of laid out some some varied um 2010 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,840 examples be it just um action brief 2011 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,800 summary detailed summary transcripts up 2012 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,679 to verbatim the different levels um of 2013 01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:20,560 information we could provide uh we had 2014 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,120 some pretty healthy conversation took us 2015 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,239 a little while. Um and we had agreed to 2016 01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:29,040 go with a hybrid type option and to try 2017 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,239 that. Um so in the staff report attached 2018 01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:35,360 to the staff report um we have provided 2019 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,120 the meeting minutes for the uh June 4th 2020 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,760 meeting and we did it in this hybrid 2021 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,120 format. So it gives you an opportunity 2022 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,520 to look at it. Um staff's recommending 2023 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,600 that that's the approach we take. 2024 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,600 Hopefully that information is there and 2025 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,480 it's it's getting you the detail that 2026 01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:56,880 you're looking for. So, I'm just looking 2027 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,560 to see if you've had a chance to look at 2028 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:03,440 it if if um we're in line um with your 2029 01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:05,280 with your desires as far as the meeting 2030 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,920 minutes. And um without any change of 2031 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,239 direction, we'll continue 2032 01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:16,480 um in this manner um until I receive any 2033 01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:18,960 any change of direction from you. How 2034 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,080 long did it take to do this one? Rick 2035 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:26,470 >> Christine, could you this this method? 2036 01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:26,480 » Christine, could you this this method? 2037 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,709 >> This was much faster, I will say. Much 2038 01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:28,719 » This was much faster, I will say. Much 2039 01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:30,239 more efficient for us to do. I don't 2040 01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:32,480 have a time specifically on that. I did 2041 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,719 try to do several different repetitions 2042 01:16:34,719 --> 01:16:36,000 just trying to see what would give us 2043 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,679 the right kind of information 2044 01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:39,590 >> per your direction. 2045 01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:39,600 » per your direction. 2046 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,910 >> So, I mean, this was nine pages. Um, so 2047 01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:43,920 » So, I mean, this was nine pages. Um, so 2048 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,360 it it still is a significant amount of 2049 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,520 time. I think we can still rely on the I 2050 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,280 can't remember the uh amount or the 2051 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,040 amount of time that we commented on last 2052 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,480 time per hour of discussion. I can I can 2053 01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:57,920 check on that and get back to you. 2054 01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,750 >> I'm I'm good with what we've been given 2055 01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:59,760 » I'm I'm good with what we've been given 2056 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,520 and it fulfills state law with what 2057 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,440 we're required to do. So, I'm fine with 2058 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:09,270 what we're doing. 2059 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,600 I if I could comment on that. 2060 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,910 >> Um, you know what it really comes down 2061 01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:13,920 » Um, you know what it really comes down 2062 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,440 to is when when we have 2063 01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:19,360 um 2064 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,960 high impact important meetings that 2065 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,800 involve some really specific details. 2066 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,800 It seems like we, you know, we need more 2067 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,159 detail than when it's, you know, gets in 2068 01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:38,640 that u um point where it's real close to 2069 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,159 a fine line. And I think you can handle 2070 01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,239 that, Christine, and help us just get 2071 01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:45,679 better detail when, you know, it's 2072 01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:49,040 something that's, you know, uh, could 2073 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,920 potentially be questioned. But I think 2074 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,560 what what that looks like to me, I'm 2075 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,480 happy with it. Uh but there will be 2076 01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,400 times where the magnifying glass kind of 2077 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,320 has to come out. When you know that 2078 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,159 we're not all in agreement and we're 2079 01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:05,920 going in different directions, you 2080 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,600 probably have to zoom in a little bit 2081 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,760 more. And then when it's general stuff, 2082 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,360 obviously 2083 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,520 things that that might not require that 2084 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,080 in there. when we're deciding futures of 2085 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,080 development and big things like that, 2086 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,400 I'd ask you to take the magnifying glass 2087 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,719 maybe a step in, but other than that, I 2088 01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:24,960 personally am happy with it uh where it 2089 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,800 is knowing that at times it has to be 2090 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,120 adjusted for detail. 2091 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,790 >> We did try, if I may, we did try to look 2092 01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:30,800 » We did try, if I may, we did try to look 2093 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,320 back at this given your direction. and I 2094 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,600 relistened to what you all talked about 2095 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,840 at the last meeting and really focus on 2096 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,440 the commission actions, policy 2097 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:40,159 direction, ordinances, resolutions, and 2098 01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:42,560 significant discussions recognizing the 2099 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,640 need to improve the efficiency but yet 2100 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,000 still present the information that 2101 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:46,719 you're requesting. 2102 01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:47,669 >> Well, good then. I think 2103 01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:47,679 » Well, good then. I think 2104 01:18:47,679 --> 01:18:49,270 >> and we have noted that if at any point 2105 01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:49,280 » and we have noted that if at any point 2106 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,360 in time you all say for the record type 2107 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,280 of thing, then we will give that almost 2108 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:54,320 verbatim. 2109 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,149 >> I think I think it's much better. I 2110 01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:56,159 » I think I think it's much better. I 2111 01:18:56,159 --> 01:18:58,560 think it's good and I think the that 2112 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,080 procedure there you're talking about it 2113 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,920 but just reassuring to you Christine for 2114 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,320 the record please. I think I think we're 2115 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,540 on the right track. At least I'm 2116 01:19:05,540 --> 01:19:06,560 [clears throat] happy with it. 2117 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,790 >> Yes. And if at any point in time you all 2118 01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:08,800 » Yes. And if at any point in time you all 2119 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,199 are and you review the packet and review 2120 01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:12,960 the minutes and there's some issue 2121 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,880 requiring something to to move 2122 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,199 differently, please reach out to me um 2123 01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:18,880 and Anna. We're both work we'll work 2124 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,239 very diligently to give you the product 2125 01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:21,440 that you're looking for. 2126 01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:23,669 >> I think one day technology will take 2127 01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:23,679 » I think one day technology will take 2128 01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:26,000 this and make it quicker. We might not 2129 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,520 quite be there, but um I'm happy with 2130 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,440 what you're doing, [snorts] 2131 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:32,070 >> commissioners. 2132 01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:32,080 » commissioners. 2133 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,350 >> I'm good with that. 2134 01:19:33,350 --> 01:19:33,360 » I'm good with that. 2135 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:33,669 >> All right, 2136 01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:33,679 » All right, 2137 01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:35,990 >> I'm good. Yeah, 2138 01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:36,000 » I'm good. Yeah, 2139 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:43,430 >> there you go. 2140 01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:47,510 » Okay. So, 2141 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,760 so we're okay with with what we have 2142 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:50,159 here? 2143 01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:53,189 >> Mhm. All right. Thank you. 2144 01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:53,199 » Mhm. All right. Thank you. 2145 01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:55,440 So, let's go to future agenda items and 2146 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:59,040 comments. Start with our city attorney. 2147 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,350 >> Madame Mayor, a lot of work going on 2148 01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:01,360 » Madame Mayor, a lot of work going on 2149 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,760 with the city, different issues. The one 2150 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,840 that I emailed you all about today is 2151 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,040 just the clarity on the NMTC ordinance 2152 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,400 for I want to make sure that that's 2153 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,159 something that the commission still 2154 01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:14,159 wants to move forward on. And I 2155 01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:16,239 summarize the two points that are in the 2156 01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:19,040 document that I want to ask direction on 2157 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,199 at the next meeting. those options are 2158 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:23,280 in the ordinance. I think it's it's 2159 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,520 pretty clear. So, 2160 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,199 just a simple consensus from the 2161 01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:28,400 commission that that's still something 2162 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,000 to move forward on is what I'm looking 2163 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:30,800 forward tonight. 2164 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,070 >> Move forward, please. 2165 01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:32,080 » Move forward, please. 2166 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:32,470 >> Okay. 2167 01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:32,480 » Okay. 2168 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:33,110 >> Yeah. 2169 01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:33,120 » Yeah. 2170 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,070 >> Agree. 2171 01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:34,080 » Agree. 2172 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,149 >> You okay with it, Commissioner? 2173 01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:36,159 » You okay with it, Commissioner? 2174 01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:39,590 >> I haven't read it. Um there is some 2175 01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:39,600 » I haven't read it. Um there is some 2176 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,440 questioning. I don't even know what to 2177 01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:42,400 comment. I haven't read it yet. 2178 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:43,990 >> We all just got it though. George, 2179 01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:44,000 » We all just got it though. George, 2180 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:44,390 >> yeah, 2181 01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:44,400 » yeah, 2182 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,310 >> I I had sent it before. I wanted to 2183 01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:46,320 » I I had sent it before. I wanted to 2184 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,960 resend it um so that you could review 2185 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,000 it. 2186 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,000 It's It's ready to [clears throat] be be 2187 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,239 filed and move forward on with just a 2188 01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:56,480 little direction on two items. 2189 01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,709 >> So, you want to want us to give you an 2190 01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:58,719 » So, you want to want us to give you an 2191 01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:00,560 answer next meeting is what you said. 2192 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:01,510 >> I would like that. Yes. 2193 01:21:01,510 --> 01:21:01,520 » I would like that. Yes. 2194 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:02,390 >> Okay. 2195 01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:02,400 » Okay. 2196 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,430 >> Sounds fair. 2197 01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:03,440 » Sounds fair. 2198 01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:03,990 >> Okay. 2199 01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:04,000 » Okay. 2200 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,910 >> And happy to talk. Um if there's any 2201 01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:05,920 » And happy to talk. Um if there's any 2202 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,679 questions in between this, please 2203 01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:09,679 contact me. I'll answer. 2204 01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:11,910 >> Okay. 2205 01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:11,920 » Okay. 2206 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,590 >> City Manager Rick. 2207 01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:13,600 » City Manager Rick. 2208 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,870 >> Uh yeah, a couple things. um one the 2209 01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:16,880 » Uh yeah, a couple things. um one the 2210 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,719 package um that I left on 2211 01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:22,800 on your seats on your chairs. 2212 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,030 >> Um that's the receipt of the attorney 2213 01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:25,040 » Um that's the receipt of the attorney 2214 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,960 RFP packages. Um we talked a little bit 2215 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,640 in the couple previous meetings. Um 2216 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:38,239 we're out for RFP. Um we received four 2217 01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:40,400 proposers. 2218 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,120 At that point with only having four, we 2219 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,360 had discussed if if we had a larger 2220 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,040 amount that we would do a short list 2221 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,760 prior. At this point, I'm suggesting we 2222 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,360 skip the short list, 2223 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,590 >> look at all four. Um I've gone through 2224 01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:53,600 » look at all four. Um I've gone through 2225 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,000 them. Uh it seemed qualified, seem to 2226 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,199 meet the intent of the the RFP and the 2227 01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:02,639 request. Um so I have attached a copy of 2228 01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:04,719 each of those for you also with an 2229 01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:08,400 evaluation sheet. And what I'd like to 2230 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,480 do is have you 2231 01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,560 The commission will be the selection 2232 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,040 committee as the attorney works you know 2233 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,320 for you. 2234 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,390 >> Um you will be the selection committee. 2235 01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:18,400 » Um you will be the selection committee. 2236 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,080 So understand the selection committee is 2237 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,880 governed by sunshine as is your 2238 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,159 commissioner role. Um so any of that 2239 01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:27,600 communication would have to be in a 2240 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,440 public format 2241 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:32,080 um and need to follow the the rules that 2242 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,000 we have associated with the procurement 2243 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,752 policies. Um, where we'll go from here 2244 01:22:37,752 --> 01:22:38,800 [laughter] 2245 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,340 is I'd like to set up some meetings. Um, 2246 01:22:42,340 --> 01:22:43,280 [clears throat] 2247 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,639 where it can be kind of a roundroin that 2248 01:22:46,639 --> 01:22:48,400 each of the commissioners can meet one 2249 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,239 on-one with each of the proposers, 2250 01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:55,120 take that evaluation form and rank out 2251 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,440 if you can, you know, your one to fours. 2252 01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:58,800 Um, have your thoughts from your 2253 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,120 one-on-one meetings. Then we will 2254 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,480 reconvene in a public meeting and each 2255 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:08,000 of you will then take and share your 2256 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,960 rankings with each other. Um Tracy 2257 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,960 James, our purchasing director will lead 2258 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,920 the effort. Um she does these for staff 2259 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,800 all the time. Um and then at that point 2260 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,480 you'll have your discussions. you can 2261 01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:23,440 rerank after there, you know, after some 2262 01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:25,360 some conversation 2263 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,800 and be able to select hopefully a a 2264 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,600 number one that you would proceed with. 2265 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,000 Um also though we have been looking at 2266 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,840 your request of in-house attorney 2267 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,880 um [clears throat] HR human resources 2268 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,159 when we have a new position um we use a 2269 01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:50,480 third party firm to to look at the the 2270 01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,960 job responsibilities the education 2271 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,920 requirements testing requirements and we 2272 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,639 come up with a price point or a a pay 2273 01:23:58,639 --> 01:24:02,960 band. Um the original information we got 2274 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,840 um we asked them to relook at it came in 2275 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,719 really low. Um asked them to relook and 2276 01:24:08,719 --> 01:24:12,000 and understand that you know you the 2277 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,280 firm has to pass the bar. There's a a 2278 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,040 lot of education requirements. We're 2279 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,159 asking for a lot of information and a 2280 01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:22,800 lot of credentials for each of those. Um 2281 01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,679 the pay band was reooked at. They 2282 01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:29,040 re-evaluated it. it came in um the 2283 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:34,080 minimum is uh 159,000 2284 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,719 and the max of the pay band is 195,600. 2285 01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:40,639 So I think that falls a little more 2286 01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:43,120 realistic where potentially you can get 2287 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,520 in-house counsel 2288 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,960 um that does not take into account a 2289 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,920 parallel. um kind of my my thought on 2290 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,360 it. If if we're bringing an attorney in, 2291 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,040 they need to be the one that would hire 2292 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,719 that [laughter] parallegal, not us 2293 01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:02,480 hiring for them. Um and I think you 2294 01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:04,480 would definitely if we wanted to look at 2295 01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:07,040 in-house counsel, um you're going to 2296 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,280 need an attorney and a parallegal. Um 2297 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,960 there's still going to be holes. You 2298 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,159 know, there'll still be litigation. Um 2299 01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:17,120 potentially if if somebody is if that 2300 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,960 attorney is out, who do we have to 2301 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,400 cover? Um you know, now as as we have an 2302 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,600 outside firm, there is a a stable of 2303 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,120 attorneys, if you would, that they can 2304 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,679 draw from if if the the primary attorney 2305 01:25:29,679 --> 01:25:33,040 is out. Um so, you know, there's some 2306 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,400 things we would have to to look at. Um 2307 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,800 right now, we are advertising. It is out 2308 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,639 being advertised. 2309 01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:43,280 Um, I don't think we've got anything 2310 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,639 back yet. I have not seen it. Um, and at 2311 01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:49,120 that point, if we do proceed with that 2312 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,679 route, we would ask again that you would 2313 01:25:51,679 --> 01:25:53,679 be the interviewers 2314 01:25:53,679 --> 01:25:56,000 um, for that. You know, again, as the 2315 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,600 attorney is primarily working for you. 2316 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,239 Um, so we're 2317 01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:04,159 it's kind of a tough spot now right now 2318 01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:05,360 that we're going down two different 2319 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,960 paths. one with the RFP and then also 2320 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,280 looking inhouse. 2321 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,000 Um, so I guess I'm looking for some 2322 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,199 direction. If if we want to continue to 2323 01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:20,320 look in house, do we let 2324 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:25,440 the the time go to where we're seeking 2325 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:28,080 the opportunity to get the applicants in 2326 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,360 and evaluate those and hold on the 2327 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,480 evaluation of the RFP? 2328 01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:39,040 or should we look at the RFP 2329 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,560 and 2330 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,320 determine 2331 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:42,870 >> how long 2332 01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:42,880 » how long 2333 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,390 >> after that how 2334 01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:44,400 » after that how 2335 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,990 >> how long how long has the advertising 2336 01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:46,000 » how long how long has the advertising 2337 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,280 been going on for in house? 2338 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,110 >> Uh it's just a week when we got the 2339 01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:49,120 » Uh it's just a week when we got the 2340 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,030 >> price we got to go longer than that. I 2341 01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:51,040 » price we got to go longer than that. I 2342 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,880 mean could I Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean 2343 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,360 it's that's that's what I'm saying. So 2344 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,440 we I wanted to get you this information 2345 01:26:57,440 --> 01:26:58,400 because there [snorts] is going to be 2346 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,159 some time involved in going through this 2347 01:27:00,159 --> 01:27:01,360 package. 2348 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,870 >> Um so yes ma'am. 2349 01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:02,880 » Um so yes ma'am. 2350 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,590 >> Yeah. May I make a proposal to um the 2351 01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:05,600 » Yeah. May I make a proposal to um the 2352 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,600 other commissioners? 2353 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,600 Maybe we should just focus on one 2354 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,199 direction. We're going two different 2355 01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:13,280 ones. Number one. Number two, I think 2356 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:18,000 that we um we're slicing our budget and 2357 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,320 trying to narrow down everything. And 2358 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,360 yeah, we're going to take on an in-house 2359 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,000 attorney along with a parallegal along 2360 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,040 with a place for them to be. Um, I would 2361 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,280 suggest we focus on these four that we 2362 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,520 have and go with that. Also, would a 2363 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,239 large firm who might consider being our 2364 01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:42,719 attorney really think about do I want to 2365 01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:44,159 do to this? They're also looking for 2366 01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:45,760 in-house. So, what are they trying to 2367 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,520 do? So, I I think we should focus on on 2368 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,159 the um [snorts] 2369 01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:54,159 getting looking at those four and making 2370 01:27:54,159 --> 01:27:56,480 a decision from there. If we should feel 2371 01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,159 like that's not what we want, then 2372 01:27:58,159 --> 01:27:59,360 consider the other. But it seems like 2373 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,840 we're going so many directions and I'd 2374 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,520 like y'all just think about that. 2375 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,510 >> I think madame mayor, going back to my 2376 01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:07,520 » I think madame mayor, going back to my 2377 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,920 thought to share with you from when this 2378 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,760 all originated, 2379 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,880 um there are benefits to both of them. 2380 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,560 Having an in-house attorney gives us 2381 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,679 somebody here all the time and reduces 2382 01:28:19,679 --> 01:28:22,080 our hourly rate tremendously as a 2383 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,960 savings. Regardless of that, in in a 2384 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,000 normal practice when cities do have they 2385 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,360 also have outside attorneys as well. 2386 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,040 They're not used as much. They're used 2387 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,840 when needed, but they have both. So both 2388 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,719 steps are important to the to the 2389 01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:41,280 process. So the thought that I had 2390 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,880 shared before and I just wanted to 2391 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,520 reiterate is if we can get an in-house 2392 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,080 attorney to take away headaches uh and 2393 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,920 things that maybe even the city manager 2394 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,239 are dealing with give better service to 2395 01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:54,320 our the public and to our community and 2396 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,639 answering and addressing stuff uh then 2397 01:28:56,639 --> 01:28:58,320 that's 2398 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,199 would be at a much lower rate for us and 2399 01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:03,280 then the in-house attorney would be the 2400 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,000 backup I'm sorry the outsourced attorney 2401 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,000 would be the backup for it and if 2402 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,080 they're out and And again, you know, 2403 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,719 really if we found the right person, it 2404 01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:16,000 it all kind of dictates it and we won't 2405 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,159 we got to we got to look at these that 2406 01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:19,600 he just gave us and then we got to look 2407 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,199 at what comes in from the week and then 2408 01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:23,199 we'll make a I trust that we'll all make 2409 01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:25,199 a good decision. But we got to see the 2410 01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:29,120 the see the proposals and and uh and do 2411 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,639 that. And it it it can and should only 2412 01:29:32,639 --> 01:29:34,800 be done for an in-house if it saves us 2413 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,040 money and it gives our staff someone to 2414 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,639 go to right away. 2415 01:29:38,639 --> 01:29:40,080 and things to move along, especially 2416 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,600 with what I think we're going to be busy 2417 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:46,950 with for the next uh two to four years. 2418 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,320 » Commissioner Hen, 2419 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,950 >> um I want a chance to 2420 01:29:50,950 --> 01:29:50,960 » um I want a chance to 2421 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,390 >> look at this, you know, um and then 2422 01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:54,400 » look at this, you know, um and then 2423 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,920 we've only been out a week. Um so ask me 2424 01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,360 at the next meeting and I'll tell you 2425 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,199 which direction I think we should go. 2426 01:30:01,199 --> 01:30:03,040 But right now, I want a chance to look 2427 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,480 at this packet and let's dive in. two 2428 01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:09,440 weeks. We might have some 2429 01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:10,470 >> to look at. 2430 01:30:10,470 --> 01:30:10,480 » to look at. 2431 01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:11,990 >> Maybe 2432 01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:12,000 » Maybe 2433 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,110 >> Oh, I'm sorry. Were you done? 2434 01:30:13,110 --> 01:30:13,120 » Oh, I'm sorry. Were you done? 2435 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:13,750 >> No, I'm done. 2436 01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:13,760 » No, I'm done. 2437 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,030 >> Oh, go ahead. Um I mean, maybe we should 2438 01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:17,040 » Oh, go ahead. Um I mean, maybe we should 2439 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,880 look at it. Like, do we need to look at 2440 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,320 Do we need to make a decision right 2441 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,159 away? Like, what's the timeline on this? 2442 01:30:22,159 --> 01:30:24,000 I thought it was we were going to maybe 2443 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,679 look at this towards the end of the 2444 01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:27,600 year. So, there's not really a rush now, 2445 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:27,920 right? 2446 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,590 >> And we and we I mean I I mean, I said it 2447 01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:31,600 » And we and we I mean I I mean, I said it 2448 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,280 before, too. We don't know what we don't 2449 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,960 know. Uh, and if if the in-house has 2450 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,480 only been advertised per week, I think 2451 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:40,639 we need a lot more time and then we can 2452 01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:42,960 in the meantime can look at what we just 2453 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,000 got. 2454 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,229 >> And I think we're being well served as 2455 01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:46,239 » And I think we're being well served as 2456 01:30:46,239 --> 01:30:48,000 as we are right now. 2457 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,110 >> Yeah. 2458 01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:49,120 » Yeah. 2459 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,629 >> Yeah. I I agree with you actually. Um, 2460 01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:52,639 » Yeah. I I agree with you actually. Um, 2461 01:30:52,639 --> 01:30:55,040 you know, I think we need to kind of 2462 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,040 focus on one avenue 2463 01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,310 >> things 2464 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,159 and you know, and as Gary said, we're 2465 01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:04,159 looking you know, towards the end of the 2466 01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:06,960 year anyway. So, you know, focus on 2467 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,120 this. If we don't see we'll find what we 2468 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,639 want, then, you know, we look at the 2469 01:31:12,639 --> 01:31:14,550 >> the in house. 2470 01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:14,560 » the in house. 2471 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,709 >> Okay. 2472 01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:16,719 » Okay. 2473 01:31:16,719 --> 01:31:19,430 >> So, at this point, I'd ask I'd ask look 2474 01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:19,440 » So, at this point, I'd ask I'd ask look 2475 01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:21,199 at look at the package you have. 2476 01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:21,669 >> Okay. 2477 01:31:21,669 --> 01:31:21,679 » Okay. 2478 01:31:21,679 --> 01:31:25,750 >> We're still we did not put a a closing 2479 01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:25,760 » We're still we did not put a a closing 2480 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,040 time on the applicants. Um I'm thinking 2481 01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,280 we need at least 30 days to be able to 2482 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,920 get stuff in. Um, we're advertising a 2483 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,440 couple different, um, you know, legal, 2484 01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:40,000 uh, periodicals, if you would. Um, I 2485 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,560 noticed like right now in in Florida, I 2486 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,400 think there were eight different mun 2487 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,440 municipalities that are looking for for 2488 01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:51,360 uh, legal service for for in-house. 2489 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,070 >> So, larger larger cities or counties. 2490 01:31:54,070 --> 01:31:54,080 » So, larger larger cities or counties. 2491 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:55,430 >> What size are they compared to? 2492 01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:55,440 » What size are they compared to? 2493 01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:58,310 >> Yeah, pretty pretty large cities and 2494 01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:58,320 » Yeah, pretty pretty large cities and 2495 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,920 counties. Um, but you know, we can also 2496 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,199 reach out and kind of see where those 2497 01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:04,880 price points are, see what type of 2498 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,880 information we can find from there, 2499 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,709 >> but we'll go through with the process. 2500 01:32:08,709 --> 01:32:08,719 » but we'll go through with the process. 2501 01:32:08,719 --> 01:32:10,880 You know, the the evaluation time for 2502 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,480 these RFQS. You need a month anyway to 2503 01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:16,239 look at that. So, let's 2504 01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:17,830 >> I'd ask you go ahead and look through 2505 01:32:17,830 --> 01:32:17,840 » I'd ask you go ahead and look through 2506 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,840 that. Um, we won't at this point. 2507 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,110 >> I wanted to make sure there wasn't a 2508 01:32:23,110 --> 01:32:23,120 » I wanted to make sure there wasn't a 2509 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:24,560 sense of urgency of getting these 2510 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,159 scheduled. I didn't want to be the one 2511 01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:27,679 holding you back. No. 2512 01:32:27,679 --> 01:32:29,669 >> Um, so 2513 01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:29,679 » Um, so 2514 01:32:29,679 --> 01:32:32,719 look through then 2515 01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:34,880 the next meeting maybe the subsequent 2516 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,520 meeting in in September we'll have a 2517 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,280 feel for what we have for in-house 2518 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,760 counsel at that point you can have a 2519 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,199 better idea of where we're building 2520 01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:43,590 >> okay 2521 01:32:43,590 --> 01:32:43,600 » okay 2522 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:43,990 >> so 2523 01:32:43,990 --> 01:32:44,000 » so 2524 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,750 >> okay 2525 01:32:45,750 --> 01:32:45,760 » okay 2526 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:46,159 um 2527 01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:47,110 >> anything else 2528 01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:47,120 » anything else 2529 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,790 >> uh yeah two more I'll be quick um also 2530 01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:50,800 » uh yeah two more I'll be quick um also 2531 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,880 we had RFP out for revolving line of 2532 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,960 credit um we got two submitters back um 2533 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,080 you you're aware I hired PFM as a 2534 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,159 financial a municipal financial 2535 01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:04,880 management company. They are evaluating 2536 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,080 those two firms. Um they came in pretty 2537 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,400 aggressive. It looks pretty good. Um so 2538 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,960 I will have a recommendation 2539 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,199 um to proceed with that at the next 2540 01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:20,159 meeting um with a a uh selected firm uh 2541 01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:22,400 for your approval and then at that point 2542 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:23,600 we would start [snorts] preparing the 2543 01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,719 closing documents for that. Um the city 2544 01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:29,360 manager search uh the one on one 2545 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,159 meetings have been in the uh they're 2546 01:33:32,159 --> 01:33:34,719 down on the short list. Um I think they 2547 01:33:34,719 --> 01:33:38,400 cut down to about 10 and right now 2548 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,800 they're doing the video interviews 2549 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,600 that'll be taped for you and they're 2550 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,159 also doing a vetting of of that that 2551 01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:49,040 short list. Um he said the time frame 2552 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,719 for the next set of interviews is 2553 01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:52,880 roughly two weeks. 2554 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,440 So week after next. 2555 01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:57,760 um it'll give you a point where you can 2556 01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:02,560 start looking at those video interviews 2557 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,840 and from there the goal would be to cut 2558 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,080 down to a smaller number that you would 2559 01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,840 bring in and have face to face. 2560 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,350 >> Okay. Will will will they make those 2561 01:34:13,350 --> 01:34:13,360 » Okay. Will will will they make those 2562 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,719 easier to access than the the other 2563 01:34:16,719 --> 01:34:19,440 forms that they sent us the video 2564 01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:20,080 interviews? 2565 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,189 >> At what point does the resend? I can 2566 01:34:23,189 --> 01:34:23,199 » At what point does the resend? I can 2567 01:34:23,199 --> 01:34:25,760 give that feedback back to uh to the 2568 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:26,000 firm. 2569 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,430 >> Yeah, it disappeared and then they had 2570 01:34:27,430 --> 01:34:27,440 » Yeah, it disappeared and then they had 2571 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:28,880 to resend [clears throat] it again to 2572 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:29,679 start all over again. 2573 01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:30,790 >> Yeah. 2574 01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:30,800 » Yeah. 2575 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,870 >> Um and then last a little bit of good 2576 01:34:32,870 --> 01:34:32,880 » Um and then last a little bit of good 2577 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,960 news. We talked in the in the capital 2578 01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,280 meetings um about the need for a school 2579 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,880 bus for park and wreck. Um and we had a 2580 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:42,719 pretty big ticket item [snorts] in 2581 01:34:42,719 --> 01:34:46,560 there. Um I reached out to our um 2582 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,520 maintenance supervisor, uh Jeff Krider, 2583 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,239 does all of our equipment purchases. 2584 01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:53,760 and asked him to keep an eye on the 2585 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,600 Gideon auctions, which is where we take 2586 01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,639 our used in our used uh surplus 2587 01:34:58,639 --> 01:35:03,199 equipment. And we purchased a bus for 2588 01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:07,360 park and wreck. Um pretty decent shape, 2589 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,199 uh dual air conditioners, everything 2590 01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:12,320 works, it runs. Um he's changing out 2591 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,560 some of the lights um for the stop, 2592 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,639 painted white. Uh $3,810. 2593 01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:19,270 >> Wow. 2594 01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:19,280 » Wow. 2595 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:19,750 >> Wow. 2596 01:35:19,750 --> 01:35:19,760 » Wow. 2597 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,990 >> It's ours. We're getting it titled now. 2598 01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:22,000 » It's ours. We're getting it titled now. 2599 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:22,470 >> Wow. 2600 01:35:22,470 --> 01:35:22,480 » Wow. 2601 01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:25,910 >> So, we hit we hit that one good. 2602 01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:25,920 » So, we hit we hit that one good. 2603 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,830 >> So, uh we let Sam know today and uh 2604 01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:29,840 » So, uh we let Sam know today and uh 2605 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:30,709 >> that is screaming. 2606 01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:30,719 » that is screaming. 2607 01:35:30,719 --> 01:35:32,070 >> He's going to be pretty happy. So, yeah. 2608 01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:32,080 » He's going to be pretty happy. So, yeah. 2609 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:33,920 Jeff Crowder in our maintenance group. 2610 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,350 >> He has someone who can drive with the 2611 01:35:35,350 --> 01:35:35,360 » He has someone who can drive with the 2612 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:36,800 license to drive it. 2613 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:38,790 >> Uh Sam, 2614 01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:38,800 » Uh Sam, 2615 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,350 >> do you have CDLs on staff now? 2616 01:35:41,350 --> 01:35:41,360 » do you have CDLs on staff now? 2617 01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:42,470 >> I have four. 2618 01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:42,480 » I have four. 2619 01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:43,110 >> There you go. 2620 01:35:43,110 --> 01:35:43,120 » There you go. 2621 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:43,750 >> Oh, wow. 2622 01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:43,760 » Oh, wow. 2623 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:44,550 >> Solves that problem. 2624 01:35:44,550 --> 01:35:44,560 » Solves that problem. 2625 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:45,270 >> Good to go then. 2626 01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:45,280 » Good to go then. 2627 01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,189 >> And he'll still keep the others, 2628 01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:47,199 » And he'll still keep the others, 2629 01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:49,510 >> the other buses, the smaller buses. 2630 01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:49,520 » the other buses, the smaller buses. 2631 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:50,400 He'll still keep those. 2632 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,870 >> Yeah. Yep. Yeah. This is just this is 2633 01:35:52,870 --> 01:35:52,880 » Yeah. Yep. Yeah. This is just this is 2634 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,239 something we 2635 01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:56,229 >> we have two pieces of equipment. We've 2636 01:35:56,229 --> 01:35:56,239 » we have two pieces of equipment. We've 2637 01:35:56,239 --> 01:36:00,239 got a Bobcat in and we've got a um a 2638 01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:03,600 bucket truck. So, we will make enough 2639 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,280 money on the sale of those to be able to 2640 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:06,560 purchase those. 2641 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,669 >> So, and then I'm getting a flag from the 2642 01:36:09,669 --> 01:36:09,679 » So, and then I'm getting a flag from the 2643 01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:10,639 city attorney. 2644 01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:11,910 >> Just one thing to update on the 2645 01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:11,920 » Just one thing to update on the 2646 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:13,760 presentation we received at the 2647 01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,920 beginning of tonight. My suggestion, 2648 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,280 madame mayor, commissioners for the 2649 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,040 staff would be to work out a 2650 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,320 non-bindingou or term sheet. That would 2651 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,480 give us all the information we would 2652 01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:27,600 need for the required notice. Uh the PSA 2653 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,360 is a binding contract and that's going 2654 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,239 to require a lot more attorney attorney 2655 01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:34,239 involvement reviewing all the terms and 2656 01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:37,040 that's going to slow the process down. A 2657 01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,360 term sheet orou would give us everything 2658 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,760 that we need for the required CRA 2659 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,600 notice. So that would be my suggestion 2660 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,360 to stop 2661 01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,639 and then if if necessary and if 2662 01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:51,440 everything works works out then we would 2663 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:56,390 negotiate the PSA contract. 2664 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,880 » Don't we have it? 2665 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:03,189 No, we we we we 2666 01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:06,080 processes. Okay. [snorts] 2667 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:10,550 >> Okay. On to our city commission. 2668 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,040 » Commissioner Aspati, would you 2669 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:13,270 >> um 2670 01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:13,280 » um 2671 01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,310 >> do you have anything? 2672 01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:14,320 » do you have anything? 2673 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,709 >> Yeah. 2674 01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:16,719 » Yeah. 2675 01:37:16,719 --> 01:37:18,880 Back to the back to the same thing. I 2676 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,560 got some updates, but we have no 2677 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,840 resolution to this several hundred,000 2678 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,679 we um gave to Spring Ridge that we 2679 01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:31,760 haven't gotten u gotten back and I think 2680 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,440 they're giving us the runaround. Um 2681 01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:37,520 so I think we need to look at that. 2682 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:42,070 maybe even uh 2683 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:46,880 turn turn up some uh heat and try to uh 2684 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,520 try to see where we go with that. Um I 2685 01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,760 continue to bring this up all the time. 2686 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,400 Um Duke Energy is in their phases of 2687 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,360 doing their what they do best is which 2688 01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,800 is whatever they want to do. Um, I would 2689 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,440 like to see us, and I've asked since the 2690 01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:07,280 day I I got sworn in that day, that we 2691 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,800 have some type of requirements. Um, 2692 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,119 while they have their easements and they 2693 01:38:13,119 --> 01:38:15,520 have many rights within their easements, 2694 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,800 these lines need to be underground 2695 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,840 uh going forward. And I think to me 2696 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,040 that's my top priority. Uh, I say it all 2697 01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:26,560 the time. That's probably the most 2698 01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,880 embarrassing thing I could ever have 2699 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,040 about this city are those power lines 2700 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,920 out there. And my uh third and final 2701 01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:38,639 item is the uh awareness of the electric 2702 01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:42,320 bikes. They continue to escalate and 2703 01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:45,280 knock on wood. None of our kids uh most 2704 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:46,880 of them are by kids though adults use 2705 01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:48,960 them. Um, I don't know if that's what 2706 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,480 happened to you with the neck thing on 2707 01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:53,360 electric bike, [laughter] but um, we 2708 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:57,360 need to have some guidelines uh to to uh 2709 01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,719 keep everybody safe. So, three items. 2710 01:39:00,719 --> 01:39:02,560 Um, and I'm going to talk with the city 2711 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,360 manager about some of those and and some 2712 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:09,040 ideas. Uh, but uh, those continue to be 2713 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,080 there. 2714 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,910 >> That's [snorts] it, ma'am. 2715 01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:11,920 » That's [snorts] it, ma'am. 2716 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:13,830 >> Yeah, I I agree with you on the electric 2717 01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:13,840 » Yeah, I I agree with you on the electric 2718 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,199 bikes. Uh, and I know there's some other 2719 01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:19,360 cities that are are looking at doing 2720 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,280 some things and uh the city commission 2721 01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,600 is kind of nervous about making 2722 01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,080 decisions, but but at the very least I 2723 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,080 think we should look at requiring the 2724 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,119 kids to wear helmets. Uh and I don't 2725 01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:34,719 know if that's something that we can do. 2726 01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:37,030 >> Kids only or kids and adults or anybody? 2727 01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:37,040 » Kids only or kids and adults or anybody? 2728 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,440 Um, I mean the 2729 01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:41,109 >> I don't think you can require just kids, 2730 01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:41,119 » I don't think you can require just kids, 2731 01:39:41,119 --> 01:39:41,520 but 2732 01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,310 >> Yeah. I mean, it'd be good to do uh do 2733 01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:44,320 » Yeah. I mean, it'd be good to do uh do 2734 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,239 them all, but 2735 01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:46,639 uh 2736 01:39:46,639 --> 01:39:48,550 >> but isn't sorry, isn't the state looking 2737 01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:48,560 » but isn't sorry, isn't the state looking 2738 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,520 at this as well? 2739 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:50,550 >> Yeah. Yeah, that's what we're saying. 2740 01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:50,560 » Yeah. Yeah, that's what we're saying. 2741 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:51,199 They're looking 2742 01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:53,669 >> and how can we pass something more than 2743 01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:53,679 » and how can we pass something more than 2744 01:39:53,679 --> 01:39:56,080 what the state will allow us to do. So, 2745 01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,390 >> then just be cognizant of it on keep it 2746 01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:58,400 » then just be cognizant of it on keep it 2747 01:39:58,400 --> 01:39:59,360 on the forefront. Yeah. 2748 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:00,870 >> And I'll be happy. 2749 01:40:00,870 --> 01:40:00,880 » And I'll be happy. 2750 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,229 >> Exactly. 2751 01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:02,239 » Exactly. 2752 01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:03,910 >> Commissioners, I did forward out some 2753 01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:03,920 » Commissioners, I did forward out some 2754 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,520 draft ordinances. So, if that's 2755 01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,760 something that if you'd like me to bring 2756 01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,719 forward, we can we can do that. 2757 01:40:10,719 --> 01:40:12,790 >> I don't think we want to spend money on 2758 01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:12,800 » I don't think we want to spend money on 2759 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,560 you doing that quite right now, but we 2760 01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,560 need to keep it in our forefront and 2761 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,119 keep I'm just going to keep reminding 2762 01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:21,040 everybody about it and let's see what 2763 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,199 the state's coming out with. Let's talk 2764 01:40:23,199 --> 01:40:25,040 to our people in the state and see if 2765 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,679 it's, you know, got a good life to it, 2766 01:40:27,679 --> 01:40:30,560 kick to it. But um we don't want to go 2767 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,880 down not saying that we fought for 2768 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,870 >> No, my my my biggest my biggest fear 2769 01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:36,880 » No, my my my biggest my biggest fear 2770 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,800 with those things is they hit somebody 2771 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:41,750 >> and then 2772 01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:41,760 » and then 2773 01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:42,950 >> and no insurance 2774 01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:42,960 » and no insurance 2775 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,070 >> and then Yeah. And then who's 2776 01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:44,080 » and then Yeah. And then who's 2777 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,239 responsible? So I mean I know the 2778 01:40:46,239 --> 01:40:48,080 state's really looking at these uh over 2779 01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,159 a certain amount mile per hour. So I 2780 01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:52,080 hope they come up with something. 2781 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,750 >> We should start hearing something from 2782 01:40:53,750 --> 01:40:53,760 » We should start hearing something from 2783 01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,600 the legislature within the next two to 2784 01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,040 three months on what's going to be on 2785 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,320 next year's agenda. So, and from what I 2786 01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,320 understand, it is being pushed heavily. 2787 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:02,790 >> Okay. 2788 01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:02,800 » Okay. 2789 01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,189 >> Yeah, I see that there are a lot of kids 2790 01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:05,199 » Yeah, I see that there are a lot of kids 2791 01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:07,119 now that are actually doing tricks on 2792 01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:09,920 these things. So, I expect uh 2793 01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:11,590 >> things to get a lot worse before they 2794 01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:11,600 » things to get a lot worse before they 2795 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:12,560 get better. Unfortunately, 2796 01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:13,910 >> are they required [snorts] to have 2797 01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:13,920 » are they required [snorts] to have 2798 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:14,880 insurance? 2799 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:16,229 >> No. 2800 01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:16,239 » No. 2801 01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:17,270 >> No. Like a bicycle. 2802 01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:17,280 » No. Like a bicycle. 2803 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:18,310 >> If they hit you, 2804 01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:18,320 » If they hit you, 2805 01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,229 >> just like a bicycle. 2806 01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:20,239 » just like a bicycle. 2807 01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:22,159 Um, one of the things I'd like to bring 2808 01:41:22,159 --> 01:41:25,440 up is, you know, a couple of years ago, 2809 01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:29,920 um, you know, we, uh, uh, we pushed to 2810 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,639 have those clothing boxes. 2811 01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:34,870 >> Uh, we to limit and I think our limit 2812 01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:34,880 » Uh, we to limit and I think our limit 2813 01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:36,320 was two. 2814 01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:37,669 >> For the city, 2815 01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:37,679 » For the city, 2816 01:41:37,679 --> 01:41:38,709 >> two or four, 2817 01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:38,719 » two or four, 2818 01:41:38,719 --> 01:41:39,669 >> was it? 2819 01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:39,679 » was it? 2820 01:41:39,679 --> 01:41:41,830 >> I don't remember. I'd have to I'd have 2821 01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:41,840 » I don't remember. I'd have to I'd have 2822 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:42,800 to dig that back out. 2823 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,229 >> But I know one place where there's at 2824 01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:44,239 » But I know one place where there's at 2825 01:41:44,239 --> 01:41:46,560 least four in the one parking lot. So, 2826 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:47,510 >> really? 2827 01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:47,520 » really? 2828 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,149 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I'd like for 2829 01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:50,159 » Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I'd like for 2830 01:41:50,159 --> 01:41:52,320 us to kind of uh take a look at that. 2831 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:53,360 And I don't know if that's something 2832 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:54,880 that Eric, 2833 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,149 >> you know, Eric would do. 2834 01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:56,159 » you know, Eric would do. 2835 01:41:56,159 --> 01:41:56,790 >> Yes. 2836 01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:56,800 » Yes. 2837 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,189 >> I'll we'll we'll discuss it tomorrow as 2838 01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:59,199 » I'll we'll we'll discuss it tomorrow as 2839 01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:00,480 uh lead team meeting. 2840 01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:04,709 >> Okay. And uh a couple of days ago um 2841 01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:04,719 » Okay. And uh a couple of days ago um 2842 01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:07,840 Miranda and I uh 2843 01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,440 uh had the fortune of of going to the uh 2844 01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:15,760 FBI National Academy um 2845 01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,800 uh event in Daytona uh where they swore 2846 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:22,239 in our Chief Capri as a president uh for 2847 01:42:22,239 --> 01:42:26,000 the uh the upcoming year. So 2848 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,400 congratulations to the chief. A job well 2849 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:29,760 done. 2850 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:31,760 um 2851 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,960 you know to to sit there and to see how 2852 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,960 the the uh the law enforcement community 2853 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:43,440 respects this guy. Um uh 2854 01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:47,920 you know I it was you know it was um 2855 01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,360 it was something to see them uh 2856 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,199 to to appreciate them. But but 2857 01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:57,040 congratulations again uh Chief Capri uh 2858 01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:00,080 on your selection as president and that 2859 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,960 would be it for me. 2860 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:04,629 >> Commissioner Holland 2861 01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:04,639 » Commissioner Holland 2862 01:43:04,639 --> 01:43:07,990 >> um I just want to uh thank public safety 2863 01:43:07,990 --> 01:43:08,000 » um I just want to uh thank public safety 2864 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:09,679 whether it's the police department or 2865 01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:11,760 the fire department for keeping us so 2866 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,239 well in the loop uh when there is 2867 01:43:14,239 --> 01:43:16,320 something going on in this community. 2868 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,679 Nothing is worse as a commissioner than 2869 01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:22,400 to us to get calls from folks in our 2870 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,679 community and not hearing and us not 2871 01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:28,719 knowing about it before um we get that 2872 01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:32,080 phone call. Um please keep all of our 2873 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,239 public safety folks in your thoughts and 2874 01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:36,320 prayers. We had that incident the other 2875 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:40,480 night where we had our officer drug um 2876 01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:42,639 and it was all over Fox News. It was all 2877 01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:45,679 over most of the major news. We need to 2878 01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:47,199 make sure that we keep them in our 2879 01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:50,239 thoughts and prayers constantly um as 2880 01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:53,199 they're out there protecting us on a 2881 01:43:53,199 --> 01:43:56,480 daily basis. Um so that's all I've got 2882 01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:58,639 tonight. Thank you, Mayor. 2883 01:43:58,639 --> 01:43:59,910 >> And I'm good. Thank you. 2884 01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:59,920 » And I'm good. Thank you. 2885 01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:01,990 >> Okay. Good. I just had a couple of 2886 01:44:01,990 --> 01:44:02,000 » Okay. Good. I just had a couple of 2887 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,000 comments. First of all, congratulations, 2888 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,320 Chief. We should I wasn't aware of it. 2889 01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,840 So, um that would please let us know in 2890 01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,000 the future so that we can congratulate 2891 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,080 him. Um 2892 01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,622 >> I know but that's not the future. 2893 01:44:16,622 --> 01:44:16,632 » I know but that's not the future. 2894 01:44:16,632 --> 01:44:17,287 [laughter] 2895 01:44:17,287 --> 01:44:17,840 [gasps] 2896 01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,310 >> Okay. Um I had the opportunity to join 2897 01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:20,320 » Okay. Um I had the opportunity to join 2898 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,719 Pastor Renee uh Representative Cobb and 2899 01:44:22,719 --> 01:44:25,600 Chief Capri and other community members 2900 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,320 um doing prayers at the gates of the 2901 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,080 city. It was for different areas 2902 01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,119 northwest, east and south. And it worked 2903 01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:35,920 out. It was really nice a very u nice 2904 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,760 event. Um and I want to say happy third 2905 01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,440 retirement to Mary Montes. Um, and 2906 01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:45,452 hopefully there won't be a fourth unless 2907 01:44:45,452 --> 01:44:46,480 [clears throat] she's committed this 2908 01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:48,080 time. 2909 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,800 And um, this is in bloom. We're I'm 2910 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,880 looking forward to participating in the 2911 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,000 uh, August downtown merchants meeting. I 2912 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,080 I'm really encouraged by that, having 2913 01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,880 our retailers come together and start up 2914 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,719 again. I there was an alliance once upon 2915 01:45:02,719 --> 01:45:04,560 a time and it's kind of waking up again 2916 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:06,480 and um, I think we'll see some really 2917 01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:09,280 good things downtown. And yes, flowers 2918 01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,600 and decorating and and enhancing our 2919 01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,360 city is important and we will continue 2920 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:18,080 to do that. Um also, um we are 2921 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,760 submitting nominations for the American 2922 01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,600 Bloom Conference. We have some really 2923 01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,800 good um nominations that's going forth 2924 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,199 and uh and we're thankful to for Tim to 2925 01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:30,800 Tim for all that he's doing. And um the 2926 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,600 community garden is taking shape um with 2927 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,760 Fountain Outreach, the Fountain Outreach 2928 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,239 organization. So, it's all been platted 2929 01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:41,280 out and um I think Sam has plans for it 2930 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,159 and we're also working with Sean. So, I 2931 01:45:44,159 --> 01:45:45,760 think we have a really good start on 2932 01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,800 that and uh Pocket Park is our next big 2933 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,800 project. Sam talks to teach. 2934 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:57,030 >> Okay. So, I I think that's it uh from me 2935 01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:57,040 » Okay. So, I I think that's it uh from me 2936 01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:57,920 and yes, 2937 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,430 >> sorry, one more thing. And uh uh we had 2938 01:46:01,430 --> 01:46:01,440 » sorry, one more thing. And uh uh we had 2939 01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:05,600 an event in uh in the park um last 2940 01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,920 weekend and I don't know uh what the 2941 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,040 taste is for the commission on this but 2942 01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:14,719 you know we have the car show that comes 2943 01:46:14,719 --> 01:46:19,840 in uh uh the third or fourth Saturday of 2944 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,960 the month. Um 2945 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,880 I'm going to say it. I don't see them 2946 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,239 contributing anything to to our 2947 01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:32,560 downtown. They don't go and they don't 2948 01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,159 shop at our stores, uh, our restaurants. 2949 01:46:36,159 --> 01:46:38,480 Everything that they do, they do there. 2950 01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:41,270 >> So, I I I'd like for us to to think 2951 01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:41,280 » So, I I I'd like for us to to think 2952 01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,360 about that. I mean, we have the surface 2953 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:47,600 lot that would be great for them, but 2954 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,119 I don't know what everybody else is 2955 01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:52,000 think everyone else thinks, but uh, it's 2956 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,880 just something I want to bring up. So, 2957 01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,760 uh we are using our park more and more 2958 01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,440 um 2959 01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:05,280 and um I I think we should would look at 2960 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:06,880 relocating them 2961 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,550 >> and really if you'll remember that was a 2962 01:47:08,550 --> 01:47:08,560 » and really if you'll remember that was a 2963 01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,239 challenge we had when we moved them to 2964 01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:11,840 the park is they were parking in front 2965 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,280 of our businesses 2966 01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,990 >> and they were never utilizing so it is 2967 01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:16,000 » and they were never utilizing so it is 2968 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:17,840 worth another conversation 2969 01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,870 >> I agree 2970 01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:20,880 » I agree 2971 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,719 we close the park when they do that no 2972 01:47:22,719 --> 01:47:24,320 it's open to the public. They're just in 2973 01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:25,600 there doing their thing. 2974 01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:30,870 >> Yeah, it is open, but they utilize um 2975 01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:30,880 » Yeah, it is open, but they utilize um 2976 01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,669 >> most of the space. 2977 01:47:33,669 --> 01:47:33,679 » most of the space. 2978 01:47:33,679 --> 01:47:35,109 >> Anything else for the good, 2979 01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:35,119 » Anything else for the good, 2980 01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:36,550 >> you know. Can I just add one thing on 2981 01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:36,560 » you know. Can I just add one thing on 2982 01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,800 that tone? Because otherwise Gary would 2983 01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,159 would [laughter] 2984 01:47:40,159 --> 01:47:41,830 >> Yeah, this is why we got done so early 2985 01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:41,840 » Yeah, this is why we got done so early 2986 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:42,320 last time. 2987 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:43,910 >> See, 2988 01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:43,920 » See, 2989 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,679 I knew [laughter] exactly 2990 01:47:45,679 --> 01:47:47,590 >> and I and honestly, I swear you're doing 2991 01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:47,600 » and I and honestly, I swear you're doing 2992 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:49,280 it on purpose, too. You must have 2993 01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,440 watched the video. [laughter] 2994 01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:53,119 Madame Mayor, I think he's out of line, 2995 01:47:53,119 --> 01:47:55,360 but uh the 2996 01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,109 >> bet everyone thinks I'm right. 2997 01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:57,119 » bet everyone thinks I'm right. 2998 01:47:57,119 --> 01:48:00,310 >> The uh associate the 2999 01:48:00,310 --> 01:48:00,320 » The uh associate the 3000 01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,600 Daniel and George and uh some of the 3001 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,600 other key people are working on starting 3002 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,840 a downtown association. And in that 3003 01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:11,520 meeting I went to uh their first meeting 3004 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,520 uh there was talk about the car show and 3005 01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,800 and all that. So, I think let the let 3006 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,119 the downtown community evolve and maybe 3007 01:48:19,119 --> 01:48:21,840 come give us a thought about that. Let 3008 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,159 the downtown businesses tell us 3009 01:48:24,159 --> 01:48:26,790 >> whether they feel it's a a plus or not 3010 01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:26,800 » whether they feel it's a a plus or not 3011 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,800 or whatnot. But there's some good things 3012 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,320 going on with that. We've all wanted 3013 01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,719 them to restart that and and it's in the 3014 01:48:32,719 --> 01:48:33,840 process. So, I just wanted to tell you 3015 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:35,119 all that. 3016 01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:36,950 >> Thank you. Anything else? 3017 01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:36,960 » Thank you. Anything else? 3018 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,750 >> I'll quit saying that. [laughter] 3019 01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:39,760 » I'll quit saying that. [laughter] 3020 01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,310 >> Okay. So 3021 01:48:42,310 --> 01:48:42,320 » Okay. So 3022 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:47,040 at um what 8 7:48 3023 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,360 it's hard this is a glare on that clock. 3024 01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:55,270 >> We'll call this meeting a journey. 3025 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,679 All right. All right.