1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,609 All 2 00:00:02,619 --> 00:00:07,829 » [music] 3 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:10,559 » right, everybody. Welcome to the Monday, 4 00:00:10,559 --> 00:00:14,960 April 27th, city council uh meeting. Uh 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,880 I will be your DJ for this evening. I am 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,680 Mayor Pro Tim. Uh the way this works is 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,520 there's a rotating schedule that 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,080 determines who the mayor pro Tim is in 9 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:26,960 cases of absences from our mayor. And so 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,800 I believe the next person on the 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,800 schedule is council member Kelly. Just 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,680 for everyone's reference, uh we'll start 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,200 off the meeting with a roll call to 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,079 establish a quorum. 15 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:39,760 >> Council member Hakaris 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,239 >> here. 17 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:41,360 >> Council member Kelly 18 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:41,760 >> here. 19 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,120 >> Council member Harris. 20 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,000 >> Council member Isles 21 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,320 >> here. 22 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,360 >> Council member Nisma 23 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,079 >> here. 24 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:47,200 >> Council member Sufffordan 25 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,440 >> here. 26 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,480 >> Council member Davis 27 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:49,840 >> here. Council member Rogers 28 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,360 >> here. 29 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,399 >> Council member Burns 30 00:00:52,399 --> 00:00:54,160 >> I am here. 31 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,920 >> All right. We've uh established a 32 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,120 quorum. Uh next up we have uh public 33 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,440 announcements and proclamations 34 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,080 which we have four. 35 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,439 Uh first up is the world migratory bird 36 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:10,720 day May 9th 2026. 37 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,640 I will read the proclamation and then I 38 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,960 believe we have uh Libby Hill in the 39 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:17,119 audience who will come up and take a 40 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:20,400 photo with our city manager. Uh whereas 41 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,520 migratory birds are a visible and valued 42 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,400 part of our community signaling seasonal 43 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,320 change and highlighting connections of 44 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:31,520 ecosystems. And whereas migratory birds 45 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,640 play vital ecological roles through seed 46 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,520 dispersal, pollination, and pest control 47 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,759 yet face growing threats from human 48 00:01:39,759 --> 00:01:42,799 activi activity and urban development. 49 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:45,040 And whereas the city of Evston as a 50 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,920 designated bird city Illinois community 51 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,640 recognizes the importance of migratory 52 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,119 birds and has adopted bird friendly 53 00:01:53,119 --> 00:01:56,000 policies. And whereas through ongoing 54 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,560 natural area stewardship and bird 55 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,880 friendly practices, hardworking 56 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 stewardship groups and city employees 57 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,439 have preserved and restored bird 58 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:09,039 habitats. And whereas the 2026 World 59 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:11,680 Migratory Bird Day theme, every bird 60 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,239 counts, your observations matter, 61 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:16,319 highlights the importance of individual 62 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:20,879 and collective action. Uh now therefore, 63 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:23,760 um as I guess Mayor Pro Tim of city of 64 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,879 Evston do hereby proclaim May 9th, 2026 65 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:30,959 as World Migratory Bird Day. 66 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:58,949 Libby Hill. [applause] 67 00:02:58,959 --> 00:03:09,030 Have a still repeat. 68 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,879 smile. 69 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:40,949 And then I'll do a little bit closer. 70 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:42,319 Uh, Council Member Kelly. 71 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:45,120 >> Sure. I just want to um say thank you to 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,799 Libby Hill and the others who've worked 73 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:51,760 so hard to um be engaged to um provide 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,840 especially the Clark Street Birch uh 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,599 beach bird sanctuary. The work they've 76 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:57,680 done on that and how Libby Hill back 77 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,760 when Northwestern was expanding its um 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,439 visitor center and encroaching on our 79 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:04,319 using of some of our um parkland really 80 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:06,080 kicked into gear to work with city staff 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,799 to create this um to expand the san the 82 00:04:08,799 --> 00:04:10,879 bird sanctuary. um this is really so 83 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:12,959 meaningful and such a wonderful place in 84 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:14,560 our city. So I just really want to say 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,120 thank you to Libby and the others. So 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,830 thank you. 87 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:24,720 Uh any other public comments? All right. 88 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,639 Uh next up we have International Compost 89 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:32,560 Awareness Week May 3rd through May 9th. 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,880 uh whereas composting is a way of 91 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,280 returning organic resources to the soil 92 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:40,000 to restore the health of the soil and 93 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,240 enable its essential function in the 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,960 carbon cycle. And whereas applying 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,600 finished compost is a proven method of 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,240 growing healthy food, conserving water 97 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,560 during extreme drought, providing 98 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 resiliency during flooding conditions, 99 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,479 reducing water consumption and non point 100 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:01,199 pollution, decreasing the dependence on 101 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:05,199 chemical fertilizers, decreasing erosion 102 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:08,720 uh uh carbon uh sequestration and 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,360 remediating fire damaged lands. And 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,759 whereas it is critical to recognize 105 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:15,919 composting as an effective form of 106 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:19,039 resource recovery, waste reduction, 107 00:05:19,039 --> 00:05:21,039 reuse and recycling, and pollution 108 00:05:21,039 --> 00:05:23,759 reduction. And whereas materials such as 109 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:25,919 yard trimmings, fruit and vegetable 110 00:05:25,919 --> 00:05:28,800 cutings, ex acceptable food scraps and 111 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,759 organics are all able to be composted 112 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:34,639 and processed into a beneficial product 113 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:36,880 known as compost. And whereas 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,240 communities through their local 115 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,120 governments, highway departments, soil 116 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,039 conservation service and extension 117 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:45,840 offices, and public works professionals 118 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,080 can have significant impact on clean 119 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,120 water, soil, climate resiliency, and 120 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,160 landfill diversion by using compost for 121 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,199 projects at all scales. And whereas 122 00:05:57,199 --> 00:05:59,919 international compost awareness week is 123 00:05:59,919 --> 00:06:03,039 a publicly and education initiative to 124 00:06:03,039 --> 00:06:05,440 showcase compost production and 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,960 demonstrate comp post use. And whereas 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,360 composting creates green jobs and 127 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,440 infrastructure for cities and states who 128 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,080 implement composting programs. And 129 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,120 whereas this year's theme is compost 130 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,319 feed the soil that feeds us. The 2026 131 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:24,319 theme was chosen with the goal of 132 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:26,720 highlighting the benefits of composting 133 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,440 in agriculture and food production and 134 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,360 its role in supporting healthy, 135 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,240 nutritious food and by extension healthy 136 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,479 people and communities. Beyond 137 00:06:36,479 --> 00:06:39,039 responsible waste management, composting 138 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:41,120 recognizes the interconnectedness 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,520 between every person who eats and the 140 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080 earth that provides all of our food, as 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,319 well as our agency in feeding the earth 142 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,479 our scraps so that the soil may continue 143 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:53,520 to provide for us abundantly. Compost 144 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,639 grows healthy soil, healthy food, and a 145 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:59,919 healthy Illinois. And therefore, 146 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:03,199 uh, um, as Mayor Pro Tim, we hereby 147 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:05,759 proclaim the first full week of May as 148 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:08,960 compost awareness week. That was a long 149 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,960 one. 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,599 I believe we have Brian Zimmerman, our 151 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:15,759 solid waste coordinator, here to take a 152 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:17,520 quick photo. I'm supposed to hand this 153 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:28,550 off to you. Thank you. 154 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:45,045 They gave me the long, 155 00:07:45,055 --> 00:07:48,150 [clears throat] 156 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,360 » Council Member Kelly. 157 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,080 >> Thank you. Um, and thank you all uh for 158 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,919 your work on this. And I think we can't 159 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:56,240 uh kick off this week without mentioning 160 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,039 and and um and acknowledging Erlene 161 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:03,280 Howard um who started collective 162 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,000 resources back in 2010 and served over 163 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,960 3,000 Evston residents with composting. 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,360 She really was the one that got it um 165 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,360 people really committed and involved. So 166 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,280 Erlene Howard, I think she deserves a 167 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:22,150 big hat tip on this tonight. Thank you. 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,680 All right, two more. Uh, next up is NA 169 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,319 National Drinking Water Week, May 3rd 170 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:30,720 through the 9th. Uh, whereas water is 171 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,120 our most valuable natural natural 172 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,440 resource. And whereas drinking water 173 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,479 serves a vital role in daily life, 174 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:40,880 serving an essential purpose to health, 175 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,880 hydration, and hygiene needs for the 176 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,399 quality of life for our citizens. Our 177 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:49,120 citizens enjoy. And whereas Tap Water 178 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,839 delivers public health protection, fire 179 00:08:51,839 --> 00:08:54,160 protection, support for our economy, and 180 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,480 the quality of life we enjoy. And 181 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,120 whereas the hard work performed by the 182 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,600 entire water sector, designing capital 183 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,480 projects, operators, ensuring the safety 184 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,560 and quality of drinking water or a 185 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:08,399 member of a pipe crew maintaining the 186 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:10,800 infrastructure communities rely on to 187 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,120 transport highquality drinking water 188 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,760 from its source to consumers taps. And 189 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,800 whereas we are all stewards of the water 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,880 infrastructure upon which current future 191 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,600 generations depend. And whereas the 192 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,760 citizens of our city are called upon to 193 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,600 help protect our source waters from 194 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,399 pollution, practice water conservation, 195 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:32,560 and give involved with their water by 196 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:34,880 familiarizing themselves with it. And 197 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,839 now therefore, I, Mayor Pro Tim, do 198 00:09:37,839 --> 00:09:41,360 hereby proclaim the week of May uh 3rd 199 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,920 through the 9th, 2026 as National 200 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,080 Drinking Water Week in the city of 201 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,269 Evston. 202 00:09:49,279 --> 00:09:50,640 I don't think we have anybody here to 203 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,360 collect this or do we? Oh, yep. Here you 204 00:09:53,360 --> 00:10:07,750 go, Luke. 205 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:25,522 Okay. 206 00:10:25,532 --> 00:10:40,870 [applause] 207 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,880 All right. And the last proclamation, 208 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Evston Public Service Recognition Week. 209 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Whereas a high quality and professional 210 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,000 public service is essential to Evston's 211 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,959 quality of life. And whereas employees 212 00:10:54,959 --> 00:10:57,760 are our most important resource. And 213 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,240 whereas city employees strive to provide 214 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,399 the highest quality services within 215 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:05,600 available resources in a courteous, 216 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,440 responsive, efficient, and effective 217 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,920 manner. And whereas city employees 218 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,959 provide highquality performance striving 219 00:11:12,959 --> 00:11:14,880 for the highest standards of personal 220 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,360 and professional conduct, integrity, and 221 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,160 innovation. And whereas city employees 222 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,800 serve citizens in hundreds of ways 223 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,040 through the city staff and all 224 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,839 departments. And whereas city employees 225 00:11:27,839 --> 00:11:29,839 represent the city government in their 226 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:32,240 day-to-day interactions with citizens. 227 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,320 And whereas the citizens of Evston 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,560 deserve a highquality professional 229 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:39,279 responsive public service today and in 230 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,920 the future. And whereas to maintain a 231 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,240 highquality and professional public 232 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,279 service for future generations, the city 233 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:50,320 must attract and retain talented people 234 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,720 with the required skills and who will 235 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,120 use those skills in services to the 236 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,839 people of Evston. Now therefore, I, 237 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:01,040 Mayor Pro Tim, do hereby proclaim May 238 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,560 3rd through May 9th, 2026 as Evston 239 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:08,240 Public Service Recognition Week. Um, I 240 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,519 think it would be appropriate on this 241 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:11,680 one. This feels like for public 242 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:13,279 employees. So maybe everybody should 243 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:15,680 come up now and I will take the photo. 244 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:21,458 Let's go. 245 00:12:21,468 --> 00:12:43,728 [applause] 246 00:12:43,738 --> 00:12:47,110 » [laughter] 247 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,639 » I need a little guidance from our 248 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:50,480 communications director now. We going 249 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,120 horizontal, right? Okay. 250 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,590 >> I'm just getting ready. 251 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,440 » I think I need an angle. This is a big 252 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,480 group. 253 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,920 >> Welcome to being journalists, Bob. I 254 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,160 know, right? If I don't do it well, you 255 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,120 got us in the back. 256 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,480 >> No comment. 257 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,880 >> Very nice. 258 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,269 >> You getting a good angle there. 259 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,440 » Cuz it's hard cuz all of this stuff. 260 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,079 >> Yeah. 261 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:19,200 >> Like what do you think? 262 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:25,110 >> Or can we We can't move that. 263 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,880 » Yeah. 264 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,829 >> It's the podium. 265 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:35,990 is on wheels. 266 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,320 » The podium is on wheels. 267 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,680 >> That's what I was asking if we can move 268 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,120 it. But how far? Cuz it's got cords 269 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,720 underneath, too. 270 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,720 >> Don't tear nothing up. [laughter] 271 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,110 We won't be invited back. 272 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,720 » All right. All good. 273 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,079 >> It's just the podium anyway, but it's 274 00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:53,200 good. It's the best we can do. All 275 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,920 right. Y'all ready? One, two, three. 276 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,639 Smile. 277 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:05,350 >> All right. 278 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Got it. Thank you. 279 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:20,470 >> Sorry about that. 280 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:26,470 All 281 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,560 right, next up we have city manager 282 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,800 public announcements. Good evening, 283 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Mayor Prom, Council members, and Clerk 284 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Mendoza have a couple of announcements 285 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,320 tonight. Um, first up, we have some 286 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,320 friends here from the Illinois section 287 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,320 of the American Waterworks Association 288 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:50,870 to present an award to city staff. 289 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,800 Good evening. 290 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,600 >> Good evening. So, as you previously 291 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,519 mentioned, drinking water week next week 292 00:14:57,519 --> 00:14:59,120 was established by the American 293 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,639 Waterworks Association to recognize the 294 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:04,959 essential role water plays in our daily 295 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:07,120 lives and to honor the professionals 296 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,680 like Mr. King here who work every day to 297 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,240 ensure safe, reliable drinking water for 298 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,360 our communities. My name is Laura Morgan 299 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,000 and I represent the Illinois section of 300 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,320 the American Waterworks Association and 301 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,480 I'm honored to be here tonight to 302 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,639 recognize and congratulate the city of 303 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:27,199 Evston's water department for its 304 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:29,839 ongoing commitment to educating and 305 00:15:29,839 --> 00:15:32,320 engaging its community and for promoting 306 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,480 awareness of water conservation and 307 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,760 quality. The city of Evston is a 308 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,560 participate participant in the Illinois 309 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,920 section's water ambassador program, an 310 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,480 initiative designed to elevate public 311 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,959 understanding of the water industry 312 00:15:48,959 --> 00:15:51,920 through education and outreach. The 313 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,040 program provides a unified communication 314 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,839 platform that helps utilities deliver 315 00:15:57,839 --> 00:16:00,560 relevant, engaging, and consistent 316 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,759 messaging through tools such as website 317 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:06,160 posts. [snorts] Uh Mr. King was telling 318 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,480 me that they've given tours to 319 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,639 Northwestern students and local area 320 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:14,160 schools. They have shared links to their 321 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,079 water treatment 322 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:18,000 um procedures which are quite 323 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,600 interesting if you've never watched 324 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,040 something like that happen or don't 325 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,000 understand it. They've put out social 326 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,839 media posts, water smart messages, water 327 00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:30,639 bill inserts to help people understand 328 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:33,519 their billing, and they've provided city 329 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:36,480 council staff with drinking water 123 to 330 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,350 help better understand the industry. 331 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,759 The program recognizes achievement at 332 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:48,240 three levels, bronze, silver, and gold 333 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,639 based on the quality, consistency, and 334 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:53,519 frequency of communication efforts. This 335 00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:56,480 year, we are proud to recognize 36 gold 336 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,800 level water ambassadors and one bronze 337 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,360 across the state. And we are especially 338 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,079 pleased to share that the city of Evston 339 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,600 has achieved gold level status for the 340 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:14,949 third year. 341 00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:16,559 So, congratulations to the city of 342 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:18,160 Evston 343 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,160 >> on this outstanding accomplishment and 344 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,839 thank you for your continued leadership 345 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:23,919 in educating the public and ensuring 346 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:26,000 safe and sustainable water for all. 347 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,667 Thank you. 348 00:17:28,667 --> 00:17:49,029 [applause] 349 00:17:49,039 --> 00:18:17,350 Then I'll do another one. 350 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:20,480 as uh as manager city manager Stow makes 351 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,280 his way back. Um, you know, we have a 352 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,919 former colleague of ours that is walking 353 00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:27,600 around the country to raise awareness 354 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,679 around economic issues. And as he 355 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:31,120 travels through different states, I 356 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,400 won't say which states he's going 357 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,600 through because the next thing I want to 358 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,960 say, water is not as delicious as it is 359 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,080 uh everywhere as it is in Evston and and 360 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,440 so I think that's a testament to the 361 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,520 good work of our water department. Uh so 362 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,799 thank you. 363 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:48,000 >> Thank you, sir. So, um, next up, um, we 364 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,760 have friends here from Eff Cradle to 365 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,360 career to make a brief presentation 366 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,200 about changes to the SNAP program. So, 367 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,960 Kimberly Holmes Ross of Extra Willie, 368 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,760 thank you for being here this evening. 369 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,600 >> And we'll have Anderson ceue up the 370 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,200 short presentation. 371 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:09,270 >> Very short. 372 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,039 » May want to give it to the media. Want 373 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:13,280 to just start? We can just start. I want 374 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:23,990 to hold up. 375 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,039 Happy Monday. In the meantime, 376 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:43,669 while we wait 377 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:45,440 » No. That's We Can you start at the first 378 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,400 slide, please? That's the last slide. 379 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,120 >> I'm sorry. 380 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,000 >> The clicker. 381 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,400 >> Oh, 382 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,200 >> is this the clicker? 383 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,919 >> Yeah. Can you click? There we go. There 384 00:19:53,919 --> 00:19:56,240 you go. Okay. So, good evening. Uh, 385 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,000 we're going to speed through this. We 386 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,240 did uh hand out a one pager for 387 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,320 reference for the council members and we 388 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,720 have some for the audience if you're 389 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,799 interested. Um, and we did also send 390 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:09,919 over the full presentation um for you to 391 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:12,559 look over at your leisure. I'm going to 392 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:13,919 stick to my notes so we can get through 393 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:16,240 this quickly. I am Kimberly Holmes Ross, 394 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,240 executive director at Evston Cradle to 395 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,160 Career. We're grateful for this 396 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,799 opportunity uh to have this important 397 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:27,919 community conversation strengthening our social safety net 398 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:29,520 today. It's about coming together with 399 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,200 honesty, urgency, and the hope to ensure 400 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,200 that no one in Evston falls through the 401 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,039 cracks. As we begin, I want to ground us 402 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:41,840 in the work of Evston cradle to career, 403 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,960 which is proudly celebrating 10 years of 404 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,840 impact and rising. 405 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,600 For those who may be new to the 406 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,320 organization, Evston Cradle to Career is 407 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,960 a collective impact initiative focused 408 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,520 on building a system that works for 409 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,360 everyone 410 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:02,000 from birth through career. 411 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,760 We bring together schools, nonprofits, 412 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 government, healthcare partners, and 413 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,799 community members to align efforts 414 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:13,360 around shared goals. In other words, 415 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,039 wraparound. 416 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:17,360 Our approach is datadriven, 417 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,799 community-led and system focused. And 418 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:23,120 because we know 419 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:24,080 And [clears throat] because we know 420 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,919 lasting change happens when people 421 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:31,039 and institutions work together. Today's 422 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:34,320 conversation reflects that same belief. 423 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,480 Strengthening our social safety net 424 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,720 requires collaborative 425 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,440 collaboration, accountability, and a 426 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,559 commitment to meeting the real needs of 427 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,640 our residents. 428 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,440 Thank you for being a partner in this 429 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,159 work and for helping us move our 430 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:54,159 community forward. 431 00:21:54,159 --> 00:21:56,799 So, I'm going to pass it quickly to our 432 00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:59,120 community impact director, Baxter 433 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,520 Swilly. 434 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,679 Hello and happy Earth month to everyone. 435 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:06,000 I appreciate all of the water and all of 436 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,280 the uh the the goodwill towards the soil 437 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,159 that has been expressed here today. Um 438 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:13,840 so re really quickly I want to say 439 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,080 something about the numbers. Uh Evston 440 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,880 has about 11,700 441 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Medicaid recipients. About 10,000 Evston 442 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,320 ready residents are using SNAP benefits. 443 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,799 And it's estimated that there are about 444 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:32,400 4,000 undocumented residents in the city 445 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,799 of Evston. These are really big numbers 446 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:39,200 because the newly eligible ACA 447 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,960 recipients of Medicaid, there's about 448 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,080 3,100 of them. They are going to be 449 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,919 vulnerable to benefit cuts as early as 450 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:50,960 next week, as early as this week. May 451 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,320 1st is a um May is a critical cliff for 452 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,840 public benefits. SNAP is the cliff where 453 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,320 we expect the work requirements to begin 454 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,400 to push people off of their um off of 455 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760 the roles of of SNAP benefits. If you 456 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,120 are not uh found eligible as a result of 457 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:12,880 not meeting those SNAP work 458 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,120 requirements, essentially what happens 459 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:17,520 is you'll get three months of SNAP 460 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,159 benefits over the course of 36 months, 461 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:23,039 over the course of three years. families 462 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,200 cannot incur that kind of uh breach of 463 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,559 trust when we're talking about money. 464 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,840 SNAP benefits are cash and the economy 465 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,000 is completely unaffordable right now. 466 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,919 And if some families who are making up 467 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:41,360 to $940 a month on SNAP, if they lose 468 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:42,640 that money, they could find themselves 469 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,799 in dire straits. People are becoming not 470 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,280 just food insecure, but housing 471 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,840 insecure. Um so there are income 472 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:55,200 changes. When I began to talk about the immigrant issue, it's important to 473 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:01,280 know that violence against women, the asyles and refugees who are here 474 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,440 under the VAWA act, they are 475 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,960 categorically kicked off a snap. All of 476 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,960 the um so we got VAWA and we got VTTC 477 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,320 victims of trafficking, torture, and 478 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,120 other crimes. they are categorically 479 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:20,880 removed from the SNAP benefit roles. 480 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,200 Folks, this is going to be a very 481 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520 difficult challenge for us to uh face 482 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,200 and I think that the only way we can 483 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520 post it is by doing it together. And so 484 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,640 here are a few things that we need to 485 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,600 do. Access the no wrong door policy. 486 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,279 This is basically wraparound where we 487 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,240 have a digital system and no matter what 488 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,400 your problem is, you can access all of 489 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,039 Evston's resources through an online 490 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,200 system called EENS. It's called 491 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,720 empowering communities through 492 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760 integrated networks. We need to align 493 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320 all of the systems, all of the programs, 494 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 all of the we're talking about 495 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,080 reparations, we're talking about green 496 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,640 home programs, we're talking about um 497 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,480 emergency assistance, all of that stuff 498 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,919 needs to be integrated to ensure that 499 00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:03,919 nobody falls through the cracks. We need 500 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,320 to help people keep their benefits. 501 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,360 Navigation navigating the public benefit 502 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:13,039 network or system is critical. Um, if we 503 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:14,559 had more time, I could really get into 504 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,320 that. Um, and then reducing the cliffs. 505 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,080 We want to make sure that as many of 506 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,720 these people who are exposed 507 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760 to the SNAP benefit cliff are 508 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,480 undergurded with some kind of support. 509 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,600 There are some people no matter what 510 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,200 they do, they are going to lose their 511 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,440 benefits. the city of Evston, all of 512 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,760 your partners have to rally to ensure 513 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,600 that these people don't go hungry, that 514 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,919 they don't become homeless, and that 515 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:42,000 they don't put more pressure on the 516 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,080 social safety net. And then we need to 517 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,480 center community voices. You need to 518 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,919 hear from people who are experiencing 519 00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:50,320 this. We are not getting good, real, 520 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,760 accurate data from the federal 521 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840 government. We need to talk to people 522 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,559 who are filing for their benefits and we 523 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,120 need to learn from them exactly what 524 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,039 they are hearing from the federal 525 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:02,960 government. So, we're going to put 526 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960 together something on that, too. And 527 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,159 then focus on prevention. 528 00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:10,080 That's a little late. I mean, we really 529 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960 are here at the point where um we can 530 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,440 focus on the pre preventing people from 531 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,520 losing Medicaid. That cliff doesn't 532 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,360 happen until January 2027. Lastly, we 533 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,960 got to make what we have work. And 534 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,440 that's what wraparound is all about. I 535 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,200 do believe that there's an opportunity 536 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,919 for us to raise up a wraparound program 537 00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:31,760 even though Evson is a small community 538 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,760 for wraparound, but I do think that we 539 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,120 can get it done. Thank you. We 540 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:40,470 appreciate it. 541 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720 This one pager will be on the desk out 542 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,919 with the security guard if anybody the 543 00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:47,600 audience if you want it. 544 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,960 >> Any uh any questions? 545 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Uh, one question I have is where it says 546 00:26:53,760 --> 00:27:00,720 help people keep benefits, I know you briefly mentioned Medicaid, but when we think about how to help people 547 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,559 keep SNAP potentially, do you have any 548 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:05,919 response to that? What can we do to 549 00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:06,320 help? 550 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,960 >> I do. Uh, there are a few things. Uh, 551 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,360 Mr. Mayor Prom, uh, is it pro Tim? This 552 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:12,000 prom, right? 553 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,679 >> Council member Burns, Mayor Pro Tim, 554 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:17,279 chair, uh, pick one. Um the first thing 555 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:20,480 is making sure that your information 556 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,520 with DHS, the Department of Human 557 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,000 Services, State of Illinois is accurate. 558 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,320 >> Okay. 559 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,320 >> The second thing is um we are working to 560 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,799 put up a notification system so people 561 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:34,799 know when these eligibility cliffs 562 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:36,880 happen. There's a new eligibility 563 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,440 interval cycle where it's not every 12 564 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,880 months anymore. It's every six months. 565 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,400 And a lot of people don't know that. 566 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,520 they're going to miss those 567 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,440 redetermination meetings. So, those are 568 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520 two or three things that we can do with 569 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,600 the community of recipients here in the 570 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,320 city of Evans. 571 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,640 >> Thank you. Uh, Council Member Rogers. 572 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720 >> Yeah, thanks. Um, this is something that 573 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,000 we've been working I work for a church 574 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,880 as my day job and so uh we have a meal 575 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,240 program and we've been working really hard with the people who come to 576 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,159 that program in order to try to find 577 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:06,159 work that meets the work requirements 578 00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:08,480 for them which is a great way for people 579 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,240 to get involved and help people keep 580 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,640 their SNAP benefits because the biggest 581 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,240 challenge for lots of them is finding 582 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,360 the work. And so if you have 583 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,399 opportunities to provide work to people, 584 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:22,320 uh please reach out to I'm going to just 585 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,240 call out uh Cradle to Career since 586 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,360 they're right here, but any of the 587 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,159 social service agencies that we have and 588 00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:30,320 try to find a place for these people to 589 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,559 actually get their work requirement in 590 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,000 so they can maintain their SNAP 591 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,840 benefits. And Governor Prrisker is 592 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,559 raising up a a mechanism, sort of an 593 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,039 initiative for people to volunteer with 594 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,360 the state and you can uh do community 595 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,520 service with uh the state of Illinois to 596 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,720 keep your SNAP benefits. 597 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,720 >> Um Council Rogers, I appreciate you 598 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,399 saying that because that that's that's 599 00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:53,840 probably what I had on the top of my 600 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320 mind is how can we 601 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,279 >> also the 602 00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,440 >> how can we help people uh meet the work 603 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,039 requirements? Um and and so I'd love 604 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,760 manager Stow if between Joe Fields, 605 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,799 Director Obo, if if you can schedule a 606 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,720 meeting, you know, with Cradle to Career 607 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,559 to see and so for those who don't know, 608 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,799 Joe Fields is our workforce development 609 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,840 uh manager for the city and then um Ike 610 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,720 Obo is our health director. And so if we 611 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,720 could, you know, get a meeting together 612 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,480 to figure out what we can do in 613 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,440 partnership to help people uh meet those 614 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,279 eligibility requirements, especially as 615 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,919 it relates to to work, uh the minimum 616 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:33,600 work requirement, whatever it whatever 617 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,679 that might be, I think that would be a 618 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:37,679 important step. And then if there's any 619 00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:39,279 information like a summary that you can 620 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:40,720 provide counsel as to what those 621 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,159 requirements are, what the new income 622 00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:44,320 requirements are, work requirements, or 623 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,039 any other details to help us better 624 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,559 support our constituents. I think we'd 625 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:49,840 all appreciate that as well. 626 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,600 >> And we are working with our nonprofits 627 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,279 for volunteer and work um require so 628 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:56,880 work requirements can be met. Yeah. 629 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,159 >> Because they can be through volunteers. 630 00:29:58,159 --> 00:29:59,840 So we are surveying all of our 631 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,240 nonprofits, all of our partners. Um and 632 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,080 we will share all of that. 633 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,960 >> Thank you. Thank you. 634 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,000 >> Thank you. 635 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,640 >> All right. Uh Council Member Nusma. 636 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor Prom. I was just 637 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,640 chatting with the city manager, 638 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,399 recalling a conversation we had a month 639 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:18,240 or so ago about um using potentially 640 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,679 using city resources to pair SNAP 641 00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:23,840 recipients with volunteer opportunities 642 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,200 because that's another way of 643 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,159 qualifying. Uh what are we able to offer 644 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:29,360 at this point? 645 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,039 >> Sure. I just wanted to share the there's 646 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:33,679 a volunteer Evston web page where um 647 00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:35,919 nonprofits and organizations can submit 648 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:38,320 uh volunteer opportunities. Um then we 649 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,679 post those opportunities and kind of 650 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:41,679 serve as a matchmaker service for uh 651 00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:42,559 recipients. 652 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,440 >> Perfect. That's great. That's awesome. 653 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,480 >> That's great. 654 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,919 >> Yeah. And I think we can learn more 655 00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:50,159 about what each other are doing during 656 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:52,640 that that meeting. So I'd love to be a 657 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,399 part of that. Uh thank you. 658 00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:55,440 >> Thank you. 659 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Kimberly Baxter. Appreciate 660 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,840 you being here tonight. 661 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,190 >> Appreciate it. 662 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360 Um, I also wanted to share just briefly, 663 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,279 uh, remind folks that the Evston Chamber 664 00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,360 of Commerce and the Northwestern's 665 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,559 Office of Neighborhood and Community 666 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:10,399 Relations is offering a free bus service 667 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,960 called Hop Around Evston to our business 668 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,360 districts um on Saturday evenings from 669 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,080 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Um, that service 670 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,840 continues started in early April and 671 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,720 continues through June 20th. Uh, the bus 672 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,799 route stops at 13 different locations. 673 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,440 It it loops counterclockwise around 674 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,159 Evston. Um, and you can learn more about 675 00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:32,880 Hop Around Evston and the map uh at the 676 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,360 Evston Chamber of Commerce website. Um, 677 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,880 and then lastly, just very briefly, I 678 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,159 want to thank those who were able to 679 00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:40,480 join us for the celebration um 680 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720 celebration that we had at Robert Crown 681 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,399 about 10 days ago. Um, it's great uh 682 00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:48,320 turnout from elected officials and staff 683 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,799 and other uh community stakeholders. I 684 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,799 just want to share a couple of um stats 685 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,000 about that system. The system output is 686 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,360 over 1.2 2 million kilowatts per hour. 687 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,679 The useful lifespan of the system is 30 688 00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:05,039 years. Uh the consumption offset is 34% 689 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,919 of Robert Crown's electricity usage and 690 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:09,760 the life cycle savings over that time 691 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,080 frame is uh over $3 million. I just 692 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,919 wanted to share those stats and again 693 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:15,760 thanks uh for those that were able to 694 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,320 join us. 695 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,000 >> Um and real quick actually first uh is 696 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,720 still on council member please thing one 697 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,559 of the other stats. How much did it cost 698 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:27,760 us? 699 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,480 >> Zero. 700 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960 >> How much is it going to cost us to own 701 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,039 and operate over the lifetime of the 702 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:33,760 contract? 703 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,720 >> Zero. 704 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,279 >> Thank you. 705 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,159 >> Um, on the on the the shuttle side of 706 00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:43,120 things, so this is a a free shuttle, 707 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:43,600 correct? 708 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,080 >> Correct. 709 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,440 >> 13 different locations. 710 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,880 >> Correct. And um I I wanna I wanted to 711 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,799 emphasize this again because I I swear 712 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:52,559 I've been a part of so many community 713 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,360 meetings over the year years and I feel 714 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,039 like this is something that has come up 715 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,000 consistently in those meetings and so 716 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,559 often times I think people remember what 717 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,159 you know it's easier to remember what 718 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:06,960 the city is yet to do but I want to make 719 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960 this a moment where we recognize that 720 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,960 this is one of the things that I have 721 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,039 heard many times and so I haven't looked 722 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:14,799 it up myself so hopefully it's the right 723 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:16,720 locations right time of day and all of 724 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,279 that, but please look into it and, you 725 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:21,600 know, let us know if this is meeting a 726 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,200 real need that we have in our community. 727 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200 >> And the last thing I would add is that 728 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,360 um we're also there's data collection 729 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,039 that's occurring and so I think there's 730 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,960 already been a request to adjust the bus 731 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,159 route just a little bit. So, we're doing 732 00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:33,760 some data collection to see if we can do 733 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,000 that for future bus routes and going 734 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,880 forward. 735 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,200 >> Uh thank you, city manager. Next up, we 736 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,480 have communications from the city clerk. 737 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,799 Um you guys received some emails in your 738 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:49,840 inbox regarding um the circuit breaker 739 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,159 program, the landmarking and I think 740 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,240 like one other that wasn't clear about 741 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,640 what program it was. Um, and then other 742 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,240 than that, I just wanted to let the 743 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,880 community know that um, the clerk's 744 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,919 office has been working to update our 745 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:09,839 under our office, the different tabs um, 746 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:12,399 in our 747 00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:15,040 on the website. So, you can go on to the 748 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,599 clerk's tab and then find the city of 749 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:19,599 Evston document center now where you can 750 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,000 access laser fish and access a lot of 751 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,560 public documents. Um, just so the 752 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,679 community knows, with the new website 753 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,200 um, update that we did, the website 754 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,119 transition, we're still waiting for a 755 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,599 lot of documents that be to be um, 756 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,040 transferred over to the clerk's office 757 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,520 via web transfer. Once that information 758 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,760 is transferred to my office, we uh, will 759 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,839 then add all of those documents that 760 00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:43,440 used to previously live on the old 761 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,919 website onto the document center. But if 762 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:47,599 you go under the city clerk's office, 763 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,000 you look at the document center listed 764 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,079 there, you will be able to find minutes 765 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,800 dating back to 1860 um and different 766 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,599 items and just like it's like total nerd 767 00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,200 stuff. If you guys are into this stuff, 768 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,760 like I love it. But um and then we're 769 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,599 wait uh we're working on different ways 770 00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:06,240 of indexing documents and just making it 771 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:10,160 easier for you guys to search. Um so um 772 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,079 it's there's a lot of cool features 773 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,560 coming to laserfish 2. Um, and I'll 774 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,960 update those as we um we have them. 775 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,560 There's also a new uh compliance 776 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,079 requirements tab for all boards, 777 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,359 commissions, and committees. So, you can 778 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:22,720 look at all the different types of 779 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,200 compliant metrics that uh volunteers, 780 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,599 staff, and um our council members have 781 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,160 to meet throughout the year. And um 782 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,720 there is also another tab where you can 783 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,599 see the city council agendas um and 784 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,560 minutes um and there's another tab where 785 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,920 you can see all the boards, commissions, 786 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,920 and committees. And with that, with the 787 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,760 um transition of our new meeting 788 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,960 management program, we also created a 789 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,880 public comment directory. So you can go 790 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,720 on to the boards, commissions, and 791 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,440 committees tab now and click on the 792 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,839 public comment directory or the or find 793 00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:57,359 that link also in the public comment 794 00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:59,680 guide where you can go to one simple 795 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,599 page and find every single link where 796 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,160 you can email and or sign up for public 797 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640 comment if it's a available virtually or 798 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,880 via email. um there. So, you don't have 799 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,119 to be digging around on many different 800 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,960 sites to find that. So, it's pretty cool 801 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,599 stuff if you guys care about that stuff. 802 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:22,710 Um but that's all. Thank you so much. 803 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,640 Uh thank you, city clerk. Next up, we 804 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,560 have public comment. Everyone will 805 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200 receive three minutes. Uh as always, we 806 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,119 will start with those who signed up 807 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,920 online uh to speak in person. If this is 808 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,640 your first time, you can sign up online. 809 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,480 Uh clerk, do you want to explain where 810 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,320 they go to do that? But you can sign up 811 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,160 online to make a public comment in 812 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,480 person or virtual if you didn't know. 813 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,280 And there is a link on the 814 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440 >> in the public comment directory that I 815 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,160 just mentioned. 816 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,040 >> Thank you. Um next first up we have 817 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,760 Thomas Weber if I pronounced that 818 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,990 correctly. 819 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Good. Good evening Mayor Prom, council 820 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,240 members. I just want to start off by 821 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,520 saying it's really great to hear about 822 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,680 all of the great work the city's doing 823 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 on migratory birds and water and uh 824 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,720 cradle to career helping keep SNAP 825 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,000 benefits. So, it was really great to 826 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,839 hear all that. Um, but my name is Thomas 827 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:19,760 Weber. I live in the sixth ward. I'm the 828 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,079 nominator for the Willard landmark 829 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,400 designation and I urge you to approve 830 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,560 the ordinance before you. Uh, it's 831 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,800 Willard's a beautiful public school more 832 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,880 than a century old and the preservation 833 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,880 commission unanimously found that it 834 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,800 meets the city's requirements for 835 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,720 designation and retains excellent 836 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,280 integrity. This was not a routine 837 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,280 recommendation. It followed careful 838 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520 scrutiny and unanimous approval by the 839 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,839 commission. The commission described 840 00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:48,400 Willard as a prominent visual landmark 841 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,200 and community anchor. And I think that's 842 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,760 exactly right. Its architecture reflects 843 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,480 not only the work of an an important 844 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200 architect, Henry Rder, who also designed 845 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,599 landmarked Orington School, but a time 846 00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,359 when public schools were built to embody 847 00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:05,200 civic aspiration. 848 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Approving this ordinance would also be 849 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,359 consistent with Evston's long-standing 850 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:11,520 practice of protecting distinguished 851 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,920 public school buildings. Six public 852 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,000 school buildings are already landmarked. 853 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,920 Washington, Orington, Oakton, ETHS, 854 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160 Haven, and Nicholls. And several of 855 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,160 those were built after Willard. This 856 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,000 nomination fits squarely within that 857 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,119 tradition. And this nomination did not 858 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,200 arise from just me. More than 100 859 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,599 residents uh signed on to the landmark 860 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,760 nomination last fall, reflecting broad 861 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,839 neighborhood support for recognizing and 862 00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:40,079 protecting this place. And because 863 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,000 council member Rogers raised a 864 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,599 thoughtful concern last time about 865 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:45,920 burdening future owners, I would note 866 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,760 that landmark designation does not 867 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,560 prevent future adaptation. If the 868 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,320 property were to ever change hands, 869 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,079 which may never occur given its 870 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,400 continued use as a public school, 871 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,520 designation can support thoughtful uh 872 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,440 adaptive reuse and make preservation 873 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,359 incentives available to help make that 874 00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:05,920 viable. And this place carries civic 875 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,160 meaning beyond architecture. It's widely 876 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,680 understood to be the first public 877 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,000 building in Evston named for a woman 878 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,240 honoring Francis Willard, the famed 879 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,040 Evston suffragist and reformer. And it 880 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,800 was built just after ratification of the 881 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,960 19th amendment, giving women the right 882 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,599 to vote at a moment when naming a public 883 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,599 school in her honor carried particular 884 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:27,119 significance. 885 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:28,800 In the commission's words, the school's 886 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,400 structure and grounds that comprise 887 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,960 Willard are irreplaceable. 888 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,640 I also want to thank the Shorefront 889 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,800 Legacy Center for contributing research 890 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,760 and perspective to the record. In fact, 891 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,000 Shorefront's contributions here show how 892 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000 preservation can help bring forward 893 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,800 previously untold or undertold histories 894 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,760 and stories that remain overlooked. And 895 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680 I would simply say this, preserving a 896 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,400 place and acknowledging fuller histories 897 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,240 are not opposing values. In fact, they 898 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,640 reinforce one another. at bottom. This 899 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,560 is about stewardship, safeguarding the 900 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,280 civic's the city's historic, cultural, 901 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,440 and architectural heritage for current 902 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160 and future citizens. I respectfully ask 903 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:14,710 that you approve the ordinance. Thanks. 904 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:27,990 » Uh, next up we have William Carter. 905 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,880 Good evening. Um, I am William Carter, 906 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,520 formerly of the fifth ward. I want to 907 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,400 speak briefly on the circuit breaker 908 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,560 program. 909 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,880 It's been worked on. It's been vetted. 910 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,640 It's been approved by people who are 911 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,880 knowledgeable in what's needed to help 912 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,119 the elderly. 913 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:50,640 in this city are the most 914 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,880 vulnerable. They helped build the city. 915 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,400 They've raised their families. They've 916 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,280 paid their taxes. They've contributed to 917 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000 the building of Evston. And the way the 918 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,880 tax situation is right now, they can be 919 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,960 taxed out of their homes and ran out of 920 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,880 Evston. 921 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680 To change the circuit breaker and turn 922 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,440 it into something that's like a loan 923 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,800 program is literally putting a band-aid 924 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,240 on a bullet hole because you're not 925 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:17,920 helping them. You're just covering up 926 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,119 the problem for a short period of time. 927 00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,839 It's not helping them. 928 00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:27,200 I'll move on to the Wesley situation. 929 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,359 You want to give them another year. 930 00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:32,800 Again, that is a band-aid on a bullet 931 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,319 hole. 932 00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:36,319 And if you think about it, you shot the 933 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:39,040 gun. 934 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,400 They need something permanent. 935 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,160 Ever. the city of Everson can start 936 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,960 looking towards vouchers that's going to 937 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,599 help these people stay in their homes 938 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:51,920 without having to worry about losing 939 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,680 their homes like they did two years ago. 940 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,800 We need that security back. That's all I 941 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,150 have to say for right now. Thank you. 942 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,480 Next up, we have Jamie Upkey 943 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,839 there. Jamie Upkey. 944 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:16,069 All right. Uh Vicky Proctor. 945 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,280 » Good evening, council members. I'm here 946 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,839 tonight from president of the uh I'm 947 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:23,520 president of the Friends of the Evansson 948 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,240 Farmers Market, an organization that was 949 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,520 started at the request of the city in 950 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,000 2010. And through those years, um I just 951 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,319 SNAP was brought up earlier. We've given 952 00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:39,599 in excess of $160,000 953 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,599 to SNAP uh shoppers at our market. Um 954 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,240 and tonight we're here to ask for your 955 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,520 support in passing uh the amended 956 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000 farmers market ordinance. And I want to 957 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,160 thank in particular the parks and recck 958 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,079 department working with them and in 959 00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,599 particular Matt P who helped us to uh 960 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,319 make some significant changes in 961 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:04,640 improving our market. So, we're here 962 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,440 tonight to ask for your support and we 963 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,480 thank you for your hopefully continued 964 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,560 support of this wonderful organization, 965 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,680 this wonderful institution in Evston. 966 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,400 Thank you. 967 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,520 >> Thank you, 968 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:32,950 >> Frank Hill. 969 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,119 Hi. Uh, Frank Hill, seventh ward 970 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:36,480 resident and board vice president of 971 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,839 reasonzoning for a better Evston or RBE. 972 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:41,599 Regarding the landmarking of Willard 973 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:44,400 School, as to landmarking Willard, RBE 974 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,119 is agnostic. RBE is a nonprofit 975 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,440 organization founded in large part to 976 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,040 help stem the outigration of black 977 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,440 residents from Evston by working toward 978 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,880 abundant affordable housing and 979 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,400 anti-displacement. 980 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,160 As such, RBE is founded on the 981 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,920 principles of advancing racial equity 982 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,319 and working to undo anti-black racism in 983 00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:04,880 Evston. Residents of Evston pride 984 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,880 themselves on diversity and in being the 985 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,880 first city in the US to adopt municipal 986 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,839 reparations. However, adopting a formal 987 00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:13,760 program of municipal reparations is just 988 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,079 one step toward repairing the harm done 989 00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,079 to generations of black Estonians 990 00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:22,000 present here since at least 1855. 991 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,920 Tonight, city council considers the 992 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,319 landmarking of Willard School. There's 993 00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:27,839 no need for me to repeat all the history 994 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:30,319 in Shorefront Legacy C Center's report. 995 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:32,079 I hope that you have all taken the time 996 00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:34,400 to read it. Northwest Evston [snorts] 997 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,319 and Willard School exist on land that 998 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:38,400 was stolen twice. Once from Native 999 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,160 Americans and then then again from 1000 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400 people of limited resources who were 1001 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,079 essentially undesired by the city of 1002 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,640 Evston. The population of this area 1003 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,880 prior to being annexed consisted of both 1004 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040 whites and blacks including a large 1005 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,560 number of black households who had 1006 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,119 purchased built homes on albeit without 1007 00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,040 indoor plumbing and lived on the land 1008 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,000 that now makes up northwest Evston. RBE 1009 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,160 is somewhat agn is is agnostic to the 1010 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,319 landmarking as I said. However, should 1011 00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:05,680 the school be landmarked tonight, we 1012 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,160 advocate for two interrelated things. 1013 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,599 First, there needs to be a much more 1014 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:13,359 rigorous and public acknowledgement than exists in the commission's report 1015 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:15,440 of the history of the site that honestly 1016 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,599 recounts the intersection of racism, 1017 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,079 classism, and segregationist zoning that 1018 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,560 led to the building of the school. 1019 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,440 Second, if after Willard is landmarked 1020 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,160 um [snorts] and D65 shutters the school 1021 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,839 to make up for more of its budgetary 1022 00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:32,079 shortfalls, then the city of Evston 1023 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,000 should use any tools at its disposal to 1024 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,920 both acquire the site and develop 1025 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,319 through adop adaptive reuse into dense 1026 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:40,640 diverse affordable housing. That is the 1027 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,160 true spirit of repair that should be 1028 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,800 embraced by this first US city to adopt 1029 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,960 municipal municipal reparations. Thank 1030 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:53,430 you. 1031 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,319 Angie uh 1032 00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:58,240 Angie Hammerall. 1033 00:45:58,240 --> 00:45:59,280 I don't know if I'm pronouncing that 1034 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,000 right. Is there Angie that would like to 1035 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,520 make a public comment? [clears throat] 1036 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:13,190 Uh next up we have in Angela Penissi. 1037 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,839 » Hi, good evening. My name is Angela 1038 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:17,440 Wilson Pinei. I'm a resident of the 1039 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,839 9inth ward. The purpose of the minority 1040 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:22,000 women disadvantaged Evston Business 1041 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,720 Enterprise Committee is to identify and 1042 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,560 assess the needs of this community on a 1043 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,880 regular basis and develop a program to 1044 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,599 address the established needs. I served 1045 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,520 on this committee for four years and 1046 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,920 worked tirelessly, but I feel ultimately 1047 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,079 ineffectively to support the committee 1048 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,880 in fulfilling its purpose. I will agree 1049 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,640 that the committee's input over multiple 1050 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,160 meetings focused on the responsible 1051 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,240 bidder ordinance did positively 1052 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,480 influence the protections for local 1053 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,000 businesses that were included in the 1054 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,240 final ordinance. And I also understand 1055 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,240 that in the year since my term ended 1056 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,440 that the committee has made some 1057 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,599 progress in supporting these businesses 1058 00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,440 in the procurement process and has some 1059 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,359 momentum around the evolution of the 1060 00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:03,920 local employment program. The staff 1061 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,119 working with this committee are 1062 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:06,960 primarily tasked with managing and 1063 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,280 reporting on the procurement process and 1064 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,240 the LEP local employment program. 1065 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,000 However, this committee continues to 1066 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,440 utilize a work plan that is more than 1067 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,200 three years old with persistent 1068 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,440 challenges in achieving its objectives 1069 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,040 particularly with businesses that are 1070 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,760 focused on consumers. So BTOC type of 1071 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,079 businesses. We discussed creating a 1072 00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:29,359 directory of MWDEBE businesses and made 1073 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:31,200 recommendations to support the creation 1074 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,319 of such a directory for four years. I 1075 00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:36,000 see it is still being discussed by the 1076 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,839 new committee members. Yet, I'm not 1077 00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:39,359 aware of any progress made towards 1078 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:41,599 achievement of this goal. For this 1079 00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,440 committee to materially progress towards 1080 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,520 fulfilling its purpose, additional 1081 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,920 resources or staff support outside the 1082 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,599 current support and committee members 1083 00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:51,920 themselves will need to be engaged to 1084 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,240 complete the work. With appropriate 1085 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,599 support, the committee that should then 1086 00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:57,119 be held accountable towards achieving 1087 00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,920 its established objectives. My hope is 1088 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,599 that this committee can avoid being a 1089 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,839 paper committee making an empty promise 1090 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:05,680 to our local minority, women, and 1091 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,480 disadvantaged owned businesses. If the 1092 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,079 council does not view these objectives 1093 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:11,920 as a priority by the city, the purpose 1094 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,000 of this committee should be amended to 1095 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,400 accurately and transparently reflect its 1096 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,359 activities. Finally, I believe it's this disconnect between the stated 1097 00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:22,800 purpose and the activities of the 1098 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,480 committee that has contributed to 1099 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,160 committee member turnover and low 1100 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,950 meeting attendance. Thank you, 1101 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,270 John Moore. 1102 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,000 And and John, I think, is online. Is 1103 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,599 there a John? Is there do you see a John 1104 00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:49,589 Moore online? 1105 00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:51,200 All right, John John Moore, would you 1106 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000 like to make your public comment? 1107 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,599 >> Sure, certainly. Can you hear me? 1108 00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,359 >> Yes, we can. 1109 00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:00,400 >> Great. Thank you very much. Uh, I'm John 1110 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,280 Moore. I'm a W one resident and farmers 1111 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,839 market season is upon us now. Uh, it's 1112 00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:07,200 very exciting for me and it's a 1113 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,359 highlight of the family here in the 1114 00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,599 summer months. I'm just wanting a 1115 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,720 comment in strong support of the changes 1116 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:17,119 to the farmers market ordinance to 1117 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:19,920 improve the integrity of the market, 1118 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,160 including especially the prohibition on 1119 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,240 selling wholesale produce and goods. You 1120 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,960 know, it seemed obvious to me in reading 1121 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,040 the existing language in the ordinance 1122 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,119 that that was prohibited given the 1123 00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,599 locally grown requirement. But given 1124 00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:35,839 that some of this must be happening, I 1125 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:37,520 supported the I support the additional 1126 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,240 clarification in the ordinance to 1127 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:43,040 prohibit uh reselling wholesale produce 1128 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,000 and goods. And I just also say that to 1129 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,079 the extent the city is not doing this 1130 00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,559 already, I would urge it to occasionally 1131 00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,760 spot check farms themselves to ensure 1132 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,599 they're growing most of the produce they 1133 00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,559 sell. Uh my niece actually used to work 1134 00:49:58,559 --> 00:49:59,934 until recently worked for the Fairfax 1135 00:49:59,934 --> 00:50:01,520 [clears throat] County, Virginia farmers 1136 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,400 markets and regularly inspected the 1137 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,079 farms in the region to be sure that they 1138 00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:07,520 were growing only what they were 1139 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,760 selling. So, you know, in short, a 1140 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,160 little enforcement by the city will go a 1141 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,920 long way towards protecting the 1142 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,640 integrity of the market, which is a real 1143 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,280 uh distinguishing feature from some of 1144 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,960 the other markets in the region. Thank 1145 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,870 you very much. 1146 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,640 » All right. And last, we have Renee 1147 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,400 Peyton. 1148 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:37,109 Is Renee online? 1149 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,760 Okay, that concludes uh public comment 1150 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,960 for this evening. Um has as has become 1151 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,359 customary, uh each chair now before we 1152 00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:47,760 go to special order of business, uh will 1153 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,240 read through uh the items that were 1154 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,000 voted out of those committees to 1155 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,319 council. And so we'll start with the 1156 00:50:54,319 --> 00:50:58,000 administration and public works items. 1157 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,680 >> Okay. Um, first item is item A1, 1158 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,920 resolution 84R26, 1159 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,000 approval of the City of Evston payroll 1160 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,359 bills list and credit card. 1161 00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:12,559 Item A2, resolution 85R26, approval of 1162 00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:16,559 Harris Amazon credit card activity. 1163 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:20,160 Item A3, resolution 52R26, 1164 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,000 approval of contract with Innovation 1165 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,160 Landscape for the Chandler Totlot 1166 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,880 Improvements Project. 1167 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,040 Item A4, resolution 53R26, 1168 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,040 authorizing the city manager to execute 1169 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,359 an agreement with Compass Transportation 1170 00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:38,160 for the Parks and Recreation Department 1171 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,880 uh summer bus transportation. 1172 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,319 Item A5, resolution 56R26, authorizing 1173 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:45,920 the city manager to enter into an 1174 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,359 intergovernmental agreement with Cook 1175 00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,280 County Forest Preserve for collection of 1176 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,040 refuge containers in Perkins Woods. Item 1177 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,559 A26, resolution 60R26, authorizing the 1178 00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,240 city manager to execute an agreement 1179 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:01,200 with Ample Group International 1180 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,200 um for the Fleetwood Jordane Exterior 1181 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,000 Renovations Project. Item A7, resolution 1182 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,400 61R26, authorizing the city manager to 1183 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,160 execute an agreement with Hard Rock 1184 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,559 Concrete Cutters for the 2026 sidewalk 1185 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:17,119 grinding program. 1186 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:20,640 Item A8, resolution 62R26, approval of a 1187 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,920 single source contract with a TLER 1188 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,480 incorporated for the rental of a 200 1189 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,319 kilowatt standby generator for an 1190 00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:32,240 11-month term. Item A9, 1191 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,040 resolution 63R26, authorizing the city 1192 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,200 manager to execute an agreement with 1193 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,240 Boulder Contractors for the 2026 water 1194 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:41,440 main improvements and street 1195 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,000 resurfacing. 1196 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,680 Item A10, resolution 64R26, 1197 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,440 authorizing the city manager to execute 1198 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,520 change order number three to the 1199 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,920 agreement with Alliance Contractors for 1200 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,079 the 2025 alley and sidewalk 1201 00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:58,400 improvements. 1202 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,640 Item A1, 1203 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,440 resolution 65R26, authorizing the city 1204 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,599 manager to execute amendment number one 1205 00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:07,359 to the agreement with Schroeder and 1206 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:09,200 Schroeder for sidewalk improvement 1207 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,520 program. 1208 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,960 Item A12, resolution 66R26, 1209 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,280 approval for an agreement with Joel 1210 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,280 Kennedy Construction Corporation for the 1211 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,599 2026 annual lead service line 1212 00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,599 replacement project. 1213 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,280 >> I'd like to pull that one, please. 1214 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:25,839 >> Okay. 1215 00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:26,880 >> Which one is that again? 1216 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:27,599 >> A12. 1217 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:31,750 >> Okay. 1218 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,880 » A2. 1219 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,670 And I'll pull A6. 1220 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,119 » And I should have said this, but you can 1221 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:40,800 pull items as you hear them. You don't 1222 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,359 have to wait till the end. 1223 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:47,440 >> Okay. Item A13, uh, resolution 67R26, 1224 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,079 approval of an agreement with the with 1225 00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:51,440 Okay, 1226 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,839 >> that one was held over. So, A13 1227 00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:56,720 >> is pulled. It was tabled. 1228 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:00,880 Um, item A14, resolution 1229 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,040 69R26, approval of a contract with 1230 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,559 Suburban Tree Consortium for the 1231 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,119 purchase of trees and planting services 1232 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:10,160 in the Channelside Parks for spring of 1233 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,870 2026. 1234 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,880 Um, item A15, resolution 77R26, approval 1235 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,880 of the purchase and installation of five 1236 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,880 dualport electric vehicle charging 1237 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,760 stations for public use at the Levy 1238 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,520 Senior Center and three dualport 1239 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,359 electric vehicle charging stations for 1240 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:32,800 municipal fleet use at 1800 Maple Self 1241 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,119 Park Garage. 1242 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,200 Item A16, 1243 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,079 resolution 78R26, approval of a soul 1244 00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:41,680 source agreement with Spring City 1245 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,359 Electric Manufacturing for the purchase 1246 00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:46,960 of 10 Talmage Street Light poles. Item 1247 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,720 A17 is resolution 80R26, approval of a 1248 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,240 contract for the National Bridge 1249 00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,240 Inspection Standard Engineering 1250 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:58,079 Services. Item A18, resolution 82R26, a 1251 00:54:58,079 --> 00:54:59,599 resolution authorizing the city of 1252 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,839 Evston to join cities and counties for 1253 00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:06,000 citizenship. Item A19, resolution 87R26, 1254 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,839 authorizing the city manager to execute 1255 00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:09,920 an amendment to the professional 1256 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,520 services contract with Passport Labs. 1257 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,520 Item 820, 1258 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,079 resolution 88R26, authorizing the city 1259 00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:19,839 manager to execute a one-year contract 1260 00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:22,079 extension with Canon Cochran Management 1261 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,480 Services for thirdparty administration 1262 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,319 of general liability and workers 1263 00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:29,760 compensation claims. Item A21, ordinance 1264 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,400 37026, authorizing the sale of 1265 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,760 city-owned real property at 1811 to 1815 1266 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,400 Church Street. 1267 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,640 Item A22, ordinance 39026, amending 1268 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,720 Evston City Code Title 3, Chapter 3, 1269 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,640 Farmers Market. 1270 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,480 Item A23, ordinance 33026, amending City 1271 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,799 Code Title 7, Chapter 10. 1272 00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:57,280 and item A24. 1273 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,400 That's it. 1274 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,400 >> Uh, Council Member Burns, did you want 1275 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,799 to on A21 1276 00:56:02,799 --> 00:56:05,680 uh just been the rules to take immediate 1277 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,599 action on A21? 1278 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:10,559 >> Um, 1279 00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:13,680 >> which is the uh sale of property at 1811 1280 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,559 to 1815 Church Street. 1281 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:18,000 >> We just need to pull it then, right? 1282 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,870 >> Yes. So, we'll pull A21. 1283 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:28,079 Uh so I have uh a A2 A12 1284 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:31,280 A13 was held in committee and and then 1285 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:39,829 A21. So A2 A12 A21 A8 1286 00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:41,200 » was A6 pulled 1287 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:47,589 >> A6. 1288 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:49,760 » Pardon? 1289 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,000 Um, was A6 held in committee? 1290 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,160 >> I'm sorry. I just meant to pull it now. 1291 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,040 >> You're pulling now. Okay. So, I have um 1292 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,160 A2, A6, A8, A12, and A21. 1293 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,119 Any others? 1294 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:06,799 Okay. 1295 00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:09,760 Uh, what do we have next up after 1296 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,319 PND? 1297 00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:13,119 >> Is this me? I can't. 1298 00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:14,480 >> Planning and development committee. 1299 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,680 >> Who's planning and development? Is this 1300 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,760 me? It's been a while since we've met. 1301 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,040 All right. um for uh uh planning and 1302 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,440 development committee P1 ordinance 23026 1303 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,760 designating the property located at 2700 1304 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,200 Herd Avenue commonly known as Francis 1305 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,079 Willard Elementary School in Evston 1306 00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:36,720 Landmark. 1307 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,240 >> I'd like to pull that one please. 1308 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,829 >> All right. P1 1309 00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:43,760 and then human services committee. Is 1310 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,880 that council member? 1311 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,640 >> That I think that's me. 1312 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,559 >> Um HS1 ordinance 35026 amending city 1313 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:52,400 code title 10 to prohibit certain 1314 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:59,670 vehicles from parking on roadways. 1315 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,799 All right. And then next up we have is 1316 00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:10,069 this social services 1317 00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:15,040 resol uh SSC1 resolution 75R26 1318 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:21,520 use of CB D I'm sorry CDBG funds for FY 1319 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,440 year 2026 public services. I need that 1320 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,280 one pulled. 1321 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,640 >> All right. So that is SSC1. 1322 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,270 >> Yes. 1323 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:35,839 » Okay. 1324 00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:39,589 >> The mayor. 1325 00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:44,160 » Okay. Um and then we have uh resolution 1326 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,160 70R26 1327 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,520 approving what is 1328 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480 >> uh approving Deville. approving Deville 1329 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,440 Evansson LLC's class C restaurant liquor 1330 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,400 license application for Pizzeria Deville 1331 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,440 1527 Chicago Avenue. 1332 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,400 Uh we have 1333 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,280 LB2 resolution 71R26 approving Night Ale 1334 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,559 Productions LLC's Class E Entertainment 1335 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,520 Venue small uh liquor license 1336 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720 application for local note Jazz Club 1337 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,640 1716 Sherman Avenue. LB3 resolution 1338 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,480 72R26 1339 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,520 approving Fred's Bread LLC's class C 1340 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,680 restaurant liquor license application 1341 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,680 for Fred's Bread Bakery and Cafe 817 1342 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,480 Noise Street. Uh LB4 resolution 73R26 1343 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,599 approving Heritage Diners Inc. Class C 1344 00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:43,760 restaurant liquor license application 1345 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,799 for Everest Indian Cuisine 630 Church 1346 00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:53,040 Street LB5 resolution 74 74R26 1347 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,240 approving Bunny Concepts LLC's Class C 1348 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,480 restaurant liquor license application 1349 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,440 for the adult Bunny 1010 Church Street 1350 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,440 LB6 resolution 76R26 1351 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,720 Taste of Nepal LLC's Class C restaurant 1352 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,200 liquor license application for Taste of 1353 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,440 Nepal, uh, 610 Davis Street, LB7, 1354 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,200 Ordinance 38026, amending city code 1355 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,319 section 346, classification and license 1356 01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:26,960 fees to extend permitted hours of 1357 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,359 alcohol service for class E2 1358 01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:31,599 entertainment venue medium liquor 1359 01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:34,960 license holders. 1360 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,720 And then under appointments, we have 1361 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,200 resolution 68R 1362 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:44,319 26 appointing BCC members. 1363 01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:47,750 >> I'm sorry. 1364 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:55,430 » Oh, and then all the way at the top. 1365 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,400 Where is it at? And then we have M1, 1366 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,240 approval of minutes of the regular 1367 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,960 council meeting of April 13, 2026. 1368 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,760 All right. So I have again 1369 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:14,240 A2, A6, A8, A12, A21, P1, and SSC1. 1370 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,440 Uh, Council Member Kelly. 1371 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,440 >> So with regard to the liquor licenses, 1372 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,839 are do those take two readings? Okay. So 1373 01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:25,430 those 1374 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,480 » Okay. change now. 1375 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,270 >> Okay. The one that's an ordinance is 1376 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,720 » okay for Okay. Okay. But otherwise, 1377 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,640 they'll all pass then tonight. Great. 1378 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,960 Thank you. 1379 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,640 >> All right. If I can have a motion to 1380 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,760 approve our consent agenda items that we 1381 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:46,400 just went over. 1382 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,240 >> Uh, Mr. Mayor Prom, I will move the 1383 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,160 consent agenda, which does not include 1384 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,880 items A2, A12, I'm sorry, A2, A6, A8, 1385 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,680 A12, A13, which was tabled in committee, 1386 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,599 A21, P1, and SSC1. 1387 01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:03,040 >> Second. 1388 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,720 >> All right, it's been properly moved by 1389 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,720 Council Member Nusma, seconded by 1390 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,599 Council Member Harris. Uh, any 1391 01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,920 additional comments? All those in favor 1392 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,119 say I. 1393 01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:16,079 >> I. Any nays? Any abstensions? All right. 1394 01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:18,799 Uh on to special orders of business. If 1395 01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:28,470 someone can make a motion for SP1. 1396 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,559 » Mr. Mayor Prom, I 1397 01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:36,160 move for action 81R26, a resolution 1398 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,920 authorizing the continuence of the city 1399 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,599 of Evston's guaranteed income program. 1400 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:42,880 >> All right, it's been moved by council 1401 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,720 member Hedikatis. Is there a second for 1402 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,240 SP1? 1403 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:46,960 >> A second. 1404 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,720 >> Seconded by council member Harris 1405 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,280 and we have Allison Lepinger who is 1406 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,079 going to give us a presentation. Did you 1407 01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:56,480 want to say 1408 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,750 >> Oh, wait. 1409 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,680 » Good evening everyone. Allison Lifiger, 1410 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,280 policy and intergovernmental affairs 1411 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,119 manager. Um I don't have a presentation. 1412 01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,599 I'm happy to kind of give an overview of 1413 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,319 where we are. um which is that we did 1414 01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:13,280 our second round of guaranteed income uh 1415 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,400 for the most part. Um it was called 1416 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,920 project 8092. It focused on families 1417 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,640 with young children in the census tract 1418 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,240 8092. 1419 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,119 Um we 1420 01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:30,720 used census data, ACS data to figure out 1421 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,720 how many people we thought that that 1422 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,559 would cover. As we know, ACS data is 1423 01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,319 iffy at best, and the smaller the 1424 01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:40,000 location, like a census tract, the worse 1425 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,319 the data is. So, we made our best guess. 1426 01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:46,400 We were only able to enroll 99 of the 1427 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,680 150 families that this council allocated 1428 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,079 ARPA dollars for. 1429 01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,359 So, we are we'd like to fulfill the rest 1430 01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:58,720 of that promise. We have $300,000 left 1431 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:03,200 because that will cover 50 over 51 1432 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,960 families. So that will cover 51 1433 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,400 families. We have a little bit more than 1434 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,920 300,000. 1435 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:13,440 Um and so in order to spend that um and 1436 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,280 finish up the rest of the program, we're 1437 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,359 asking about how you want to tweak the 1438 01:04:17,359 --> 01:04:20,799 eligibility to finish up round two. Um 1439 01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:24,640 these funds need to be spent by the end 1440 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,359 of the year. So, if we There are several 1441 01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:28,960 options. You could do it however you 1442 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,720 want. One option is to um do $1,000 a 1443 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,880 month instead of $500 a month, but for a 1444 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,960 shorter time period. 1445 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,079 That would personally be my 1446 01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:42,000 recommendation to to spread it out um I 1447 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,720 think might be better for more community 1448 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,079 members, but the more you spread it out, 1449 01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,559 the less the impact is. So, you could do 1450 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:52,799 um 102 households and $500 a month. Lots 1451 01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:55,839 of options. Um the the biggest question 1452 01:04:55,839 --> 01:04:57,680 and what I've put in the memo that 1453 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,960 you'll see is um and what the resolution 1454 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,720 currently says. So with no amendments, 1455 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,039 if you were to just pass it as is, it 1456 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,520 says find 51 families with the same 1457 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,480 eligibility requirements anywhere in the 1458 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,400 city, like no um no census tract 1459 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,280 requirement. And then um we would choose 1460 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,039 by lottery. Um, another option that I've 1461 01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:23,200 put in the memo, um, and this would 1462 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,680 require an amendment is to focus on the 1463 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,400 next census tract that has the highest 1464 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,319 rate of childhood poverty, which is 1465 01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:33,680 census tract 819 8102, which is in the 1466 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,119 eighth ward. Um, so lots of levers at 1467 01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:39,680 your disposal. Um, and I'm happy to 1468 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,640 answer any questions. 1469 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,039 >> Um, just some real quick foundational 1470 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:47,520 information. So when you say when you 1471 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,359 allocated 1472 01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:52,160 the amount of um the participants the 1473 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,799 participants we the 150 that was what 1474 01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:56,240 that was the amount of participants that 1475 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,000 we thought might be eligible. We didn't 1476 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,839 know for sure we just thought they might 1477 01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:01,440 be elig that's how many might be 1478 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:01,920 eligible. 1479 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,920 >> I mean what we what we did was we took 1480 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,520 data from the e plan and and we based it 1481 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,520 off of that and we said 8092 the census 1482 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,920 tract has the highest level of childhood 1483 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,559 poverty. So, let's try to guess how old 1484 01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,680 the child needs to be in order to get 1485 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,640 150 families. We could only guess. We 1486 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,960 went through district 65. We tried to 1487 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,520 get data from them. We went door todoor. 1488 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,200 We got 99 families. So, if we had done a 1489 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,760 higher age, we would have gotten more. 1490 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,760 >> Yeah. Um and only only say that as 1491 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,440 foundational cuz I I think the way this 1492 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:43,119 has been framed maybe mistakenly is like we failed in a sense. We didn't 1493 01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:44,880 necessarily I don't think the city knew 1494 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,039 that there were 150 people or families 1495 01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,160 that would qualify. Um but I think it's 1496 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,319 a success that we were were able to help 1497 01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:54,400 99 families. So I just wanted folks to 1498 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,319 understand that. Um first up I have 1499 01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:58,640 council member Harris. 1500 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,280 >> Thank you so much. So just wanting to 1501 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,160 get some data I guess on the people that 1502 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,440 did receive the money. Do we have we 1503 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,240 seen 1504 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,839 improvement? Has there been tracking? 1505 01:07:13,839 --> 01:07:16,640 Have we done um analysis of how money 1506 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,160 was spent? So, I guess that's the first 1507 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:18,880 question. 1508 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,200 >> So, a foundational aspect of a 1509 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,880 guaranteed income program and a promise 1510 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,440 we made was that we don't track how each 1511 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,440 person spends their money. That was 1512 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,760 that's what guaranteed income is. It's 1513 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,640 like you know what's best for your 1514 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,079 family, how you need to spend your 1515 01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:37,039 money. And it's the idea is to take away 1516 01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:40,799 sort of the government overreach into um 1517 01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:42,720 dictating what people can spend their 1518 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,280 money on like what food for example SNAP 1519 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,039 is really restrictive or Medicaid. Um 1520 01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:50,559 they're all great programs but they're 1521 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:52,480 very restrictive. And the idea with 1522 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,880 guaranteed income is that it's not. And 1523 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,039 so a promise we made to people was we're 1524 01:07:57,039 --> 01:07:59,359 not going to monitor or police how you 1525 01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:03,520 spend your money. We have aggregate data 1526 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,520 um from the first round that says people 1527 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,359 spent it on um housing, clothes, and 1528 01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:11,920 food. And that that's pretty consistent 1529 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,880 across the research that we see um 1530 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,799 nationally about how people tend to 1531 01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:21,430 spend their money. 1532 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:24,560 » Council member Harris. 1533 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,440 >> Okay. Um I'd still like to see the data. 1534 01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:29,279 I don't know if that's accurate, but 1535 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:30,880 I'll I'll take your word at at this 1536 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,719 point. Um, did we do financial literacy 1537 01:08:34,719 --> 01:08:41,990 with everybody who was partial 1538 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,480 literacy training 1539 01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:48,480 to help alleviate to do? 1540 01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:51,120 >> No, we offered the existing financial 1541 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,319 training that the Y does um for 1542 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:56,239 anyone's. they've got a lot of really 1543 01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,560 good programs that anybody can take 1544 01:08:58,560 --> 01:08:59,920 advantage of. So, we let people know 1545 01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:03,440 about that, but kind of the same 1546 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:06,319 principle applies that it we didn't put 1547 01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:08,560 restrictions on the use of like how you 1548 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,520 could what you had to do um to get the 1549 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,279 money or how many hoops you had to jump 1550 01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:15,520 through to participate. 1551 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,480 >> I get it. Trying to provide funding, but 1552 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:20,480 at some point there are hoops you have 1553 01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,400 to jump through. The city had to jump 1554 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,239 through them to get this money. We had 1555 01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:26,080 to do homework. We [clears throat] had 1556 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,679 to fill out paperwork. We had to 1557 01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:30,880 subscribe and do certain things. So to 1558 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,400 ask somebody if you're receiving money 1559 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,799 monthly 1560 01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:38,880 to me to say you need to do some 1561 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,359 financial literacy, it only improves 1562 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,799 that person and what they can should be 1563 01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:46,640 looking and how to figure things out. 1564 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,319 So, it is my belief if we redo this 1565 01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:53,679 program that we do have some things that 1566 01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:57,360 people need to do and that would be some 1567 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,760 financial literacy. Um, 1568 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,920 that's just life and I get it. We're not 1569 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,719 trying to restrict, but by forcing 1570 01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:10,000 somebody to get some literacy training 1571 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,840 is not being restrictive, it's being 1572 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,239 helpful. Um, the other thing that I 1573 01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:16,480 would like to see is that this go to 1574 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:21,199 senior citizens. Um, I think more than 1575 01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:25,120 the younger population. I think um, our 1576 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,800 seniors need it. We've talked about 1577 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,000 that. We've talked about the housing 1578 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,960 predicament and people are being um, 1579 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,880 priced out of their homes. I think this 1580 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,920 would bless you. I think that this would 1581 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,070 be help. Um, 1582 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,560 and I'd like to make sure that people 1583 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,440 who live here, that we can prove they 1584 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:51,920 live here are getting us funding. I have 1585 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,960 more, but I'll come back. 1586 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,920 >> Uh, council member Nusma. 1587 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,960 >> Thank you. Uh, Mr. Mayor Prom, uh, I 1588 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,199 have a few questions. Bless you again. 1589 01:11:03,199 --> 01:11:06,400 Uh, number one, exactly how much money 1590 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,080 is left? There are two different numbers 1591 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,159 floating around out there. If it's for 1592 01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:13,760 51 people at $500 a month, that works 1593 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,080 out to $36,000 1594 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,040 total. Uh but there was a number in uh 1595 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,040 correspondence earlier today that said 1596 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,189 we have $349,366, 1597 01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:27,520 which is not quite enough for another 1598 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,000 whole person, but just 1599 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,320 uh to be clear, how much do we have? 1600 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,159 >> Yeah, it's the it's the bigger number. 1601 01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,400 3,449 1602 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,120 30 349,000 1603 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,520 plus some change. Um, and some of that 1604 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,679 goes for admin costs. We have to like 1605 01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:46,320 buy the cards and hopefully we can pay a 1606 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,880 little bit for Ike's staff to do this. 1607 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,960 >> That answers my second question about 1608 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,640 what if any overhead costs were there 1609 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,480 going to be. So that would be included 1610 01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:56,000 in that larger. 1611 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:56,480 >> Correct. 1612 01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:00,560 >> Okay, great. Um are we obligated to 1613 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,480 spend this money on uh on this program 1614 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:06,480 on extension of this program? What kind 1615 01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:09,120 of constraints do we have? Can it be 1616 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,840 reallocated to different funds, 1617 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,679 different programs, different 1618 01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:15,280 initiatives? 1619 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,520 Uh if not, why not? 1620 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,800 >> The deadline for ARPA to allocate where 1621 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,880 the money was going to go has passed. 1622 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,280 So, you'll remember there were several 1623 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,600 um uh council meetings maybe I don't 1624 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,239 know six seven months ago where we did a 1625 01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:34,239 whole bunch of IGAS and we sort of had 1626 01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:36,000 these contingency plans. If we're not 1627 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,360 able to spend the money here, it'll go 1628 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,120 to the water fund. We didn't do that 1629 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,080 here. This council allocated this money 1630 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,760 to this program. 1631 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,560 >> Okay. If we don't spend this money, 1632 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,040 >> we lose it 1633 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,719 >> in this program. We lose it. 1634 01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:49,360 >> Correct. 1635 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,320 >> We can't send it to the water fund. 1636 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:52,960 Correct. 1637 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,440 >> We can't even use it to fund a different 1638 01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:56,640 type of housing program. 1639 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:56,960 >> Correct. 1640 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,400 >> We can't use it for the Wesley Avenue 1641 01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,199 tenants. 1642 01:12:59,199 --> 01:12:59,760 >> That's right. 1643 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,080 >> It has to be used for some version of 1644 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,640 guaranteed basic income. Okay, good. And 1645 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,040 we have to spend that money by the 1646 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,560 >> December 31st of this year. 1647 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,120 >> The year. 1648 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:09,679 >> Correct. 1649 01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:12,320 >> Uh not just sign a contract that we'll 1650 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,840 have it spent in January or February. 1651 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,440 >> Correct. It has to be out the door. 1652 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:17,120 >> Money has to be out the door by the end 1653 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,719 of the year. Okay. So, we're really kind 1654 01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:21,520 of stuck with if we don't want to lose 1655 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:26,000 this money, which I certainly do not uh 1656 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,480 with one of these options that you've 1657 01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:30,239 put in front of us or if we can think 1658 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:31,760 creatively 1659 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,320 uh along those same lines, but we can't 1660 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:35,600 get too creative because we're 1661 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,679 constrained to guaranteed basic income. 1662 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:38,080 >> That's right. 1663 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,520 >> Okay. And I would um also mention we 1664 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,600 don't want to get too crazy because time 1665 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,199 is of the essence and so if we're 1666 01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:47,760 creating a whole new program that's 1667 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,679 going to delay money going out the door. 1668 01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:54,000 >> Um all this being the case uh I would be 1669 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,480 in favor of expanding eligibility 1670 01:13:56,480 --> 01:14:00,159 citywide going beyond just uh the 1671 01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:02,640 initial census tract and I think that's 1672 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,480 what you've identified as option. 1673 01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:05,280 >> Okay. Yes. 1674 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,880 >> That's what's in front of us. If we 1675 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,880 wanted to do something different, we 1676 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,880 would we we could modify it. 1677 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:11,440 >> That's right. 1678 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,120 >> Okay, great. Thank you. 1679 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,080 >> Thank you. 1680 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,440 >> Anyone else? 1681 01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:22,880 Oh, is it? Oh, Council Member Rogers. 1682 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,560 >> Thank you. Um, yeah, I I would echo I 1683 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,480 I'm much in favor of option one, making 1684 01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:32,080 this a citywide program. Um, the other 1685 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,000 thing that I would like to see us do is, 1686 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,600 um, Cook County did a similar program. 1687 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,920 Um, and they recently have decided to 1688 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,760 make it a permanent program, which 1689 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,360 they're still trying to figure out the 1690 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,360 details thereof. But the one thing that 1691 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,800 was helpful, I think, was to get a 1692 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,320 participant snapshot, which they've 1693 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,159 posted on their website. So unlike um 1694 01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:55,760 and I don't know that council member 1695 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,159 Harris's question was as pointed as 1696 01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:00,080 where did they spend the money, but I 1697 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,239 would like to get a profile of who are 1698 01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,239 we giving the money to and some basic 1699 01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:06,800 information about them. Um you know 1700 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,800 average median household income, maybe 1701 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,840 >> some general behaviors, uh things like 1702 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,120 that without getting into the 1703 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,960 nitty-gritty of produce your receipts 1704 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,880 and show me where you spent your $500 1705 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,679 this month. 1706 01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:21,280 >> We can do that for both rounds. the 1707 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,640 first round and this round 1708 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:27,040 >> and so that that I think would be very helpful for us to understand the 1709 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:28,480 success of this program. I mean 1710 01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:31,360 obviously giving people money um helps 1711 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,679 their financial situation but by what 1712 01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:36,239 measure and and that sort of stuff I 1713 01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:38,560 think would be very helpful. 1714 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,640 >> Great. 1715 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,159 Council member Kelly, 1716 01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:44,159 >> thank you. Um, yes, I would also agree 1717 01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:46,719 to expand it and if it needs to, you 1718 01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:48,080 know, since we have to spend it right by 1719 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,440 the end of the year to increase the 1720 01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:51,280 amount because I know it's hard. It 1721 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,600 takes a lot of labor to actually get 1722 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,840 it's allocated. So, I would support um, 1723 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,760 you know, increasing that to a thousand. 1724 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,000 And yeah, also I mean I don't expect 1725 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,600 that all to happen this year, but maybe 1726 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,360 after that gets done. I mean, if we can 1727 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:04,880 collect that data, like you said, I know 1728 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,679 the county promise or cook, they look at 1729 01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:09,280 like even credit scores to see if those 1730 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,640 increased and things like that that 1731 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,400 where we'd have some metrics to gauge 1732 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,920 success. So, thank you. 1733 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,520 >> Great. Thank you. 1734 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,520 >> All right. So, we don't always do this, 1735 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,960 but I think it's important to um to uh 1736 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,040 solidify things with motions. And so, if 1737 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,239 somebody can make 1738 01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:25,600 >> if somebody wants to clarify, I think 1739 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,600 the motion on the table was for what's 1740 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,920 in the pack. Option one. Well, I heard 1741 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,400 some, you know, the financial I don't 1742 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,000 know if the financial literacy piece is 1743 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,159 something that we can easily weave into 1744 01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:38,719 it or if that would be an add-on or how 1745 01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:40,800 we're going to there was I believe 1746 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,600 council member Harris also said um to 1747 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,679 look at seniors. This obviously 1748 01:16:45,679 --> 01:16:49,360 >> is more about childhood poverty and um 1749 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:50,800 >> have to make a motion to change the 1750 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:51,520 eligibility. 1751 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,600 >> So, I just want to make that clear that 1752 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,560 to add any of that we'd have to make um 1753 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,560 additional motions. Uh, Council Member 1754 01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,520 Kelly. 1755 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,520 >> Yeah, I mean, I would like to see this subsidy paired with employment 1756 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,199 support, but I don't think right now I 1757 01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:06,560 think we're under a deadline. So, I 1758 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,199 would say as we look to continuing this 1759 01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:11,840 program in future years to see um about 1760 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,000 pairing it up with that would be great. 1761 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,400 >> And I will just anecdotally, what we 1762 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,400 know about the research is that people 1763 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,560 who participate in guaranteed income 1764 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,560 programs typically have better 1765 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,000 employment outcomes. There's a myth that 1766 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,920 if you give people money that they'll 1767 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,159 want to stay home. First of all, $500 or 1768 01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:30,080 in this case $1,000 a month for a short 1769 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,640 period of time is not enough to live on. 1770 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,640 That's people can't just like stay home 1771 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,199 and rake in that money. Um, but what it 1772 01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:38,800 does is it gives people a cushion. So, 1773 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,120 if your car breaks down, you're not you 1774 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,960 don't lose your job because you can't 1775 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,000 get to work. It it gives you that 1776 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,560 cushion. Sometimes um they we the 1777 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,199 research has found that people um are 1778 01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:54,480 also more um like entrepreneurial 1779 01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:56,400 because they have that cushion. So 1780 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,159 there's like new businesses. So the 1781 01:17:58,159 --> 01:17:59,440 research is actually really good on 1782 01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:02,709 this. 1783 01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:07,440 » All right. Um so the motion is to expand 1784 01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:08,320 it 1785 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,080 >> citywide with the with the existing 1786 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:15,280 qualifications and guidelines. Um let's 1787 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:16,320 do a roll call 1788 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,760 >> and that's for a thousand, right? 1789 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,760 >> Yeah. So we need to 1790 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,360 >> one. Yeah, that's all. Okay. 1791 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:22,800 >> Yeah, you can just vote. Yes. 1792 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,880 >> Council member Rogers. 1793 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,640 >> Thank you. Um, so I'm not in favor of a 1794 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,199 thousand. I think 500 is is the right 1795 01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:31,040 amount because the program is going to 1796 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,320 be going away. Even if we bring it back, 1797 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,719 it will be gone for some period of time. 1798 01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:38,719 And so I think it's best to get it out 1799 01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:41,679 to people, but also not suddenly cut 1800 01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:44,320 their income by $12,000 for the year. 1801 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,600 >> It would only be six. So um, because it 1802 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:48,960 has to be out by December 30. 1803 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,640 >> Right. Right. But it's it's but but by 1804 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,880 paying $1,000 that would be 1805 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,760 >> $6,000. $6,000 for this year, but it 1806 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,960 would be like $12,000 for an annual. 1807 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,040 >> You'd rather do 102 families. 1808 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,400 >> I would 500 1809 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,400 >> 500 and more families. 1810 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:07,920 >> So, I guess I'm making a motion to 1811 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:08,239 change. 1812 01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:10,800 >> Councilor Rugie, is it a substitute 1813 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,640 motion or what? How do we handle that if 1814 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,199 he wants to? 1815 01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:14,239 >> It's a regular motion. 1816 01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:15,360 >> I'm just amending the 1817 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,480 >> Yeah. Yeah. An amendment 1818 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:16,800 >> motion. 1819 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,040 >> I guess is everybody 1820 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,400 >> I don't know if everybody's in agreement 1821 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,360 with that. So, that's what I'm saying. 1822 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,120 How do we handle 1823 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,400 >> thing if there's support for his 1824 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:24,960 amendment? 1825 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,560 >> Was I in there? 1826 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,000 >> What's in here already? If we could 1827 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,360 clarify that, I think that'd be 1828 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,360 important. 1829 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,520 >> And I'm looking at page 1830 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,440 >> was the change in 500. 1831 01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:39,199 >> Yeah. The way it's written on page 34 of 1832 01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:46,790 1281, 1833 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,880 » uh, you support an additional 51 1834 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,760 individuals or families. 1835 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,840 Yeah, there's I guess that's that's a 1836 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,630 good point. The um 1837 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,080 Hold on, let me pull up the 1838 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:02,719 >> uh But 1839 01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:04,640 >> yeah, it doesn't say explicitly in the 1840 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:11,920 resolution. So, why don't we why don't we do it by motion how much 1841 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,960 um you want to give and how many 1842 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:15,520 families. 1843 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,520 >> So, C council member Hedkott has made 1844 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,120 the motion, so I'm going to go back to 1845 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,960 him. I didn't make 1846 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,080 >> I didn't make the motion 1847 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,760 >> or moved it. I mean, you didn't move it. 1848 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,560 >> I've moved it. Yeah, 1849 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,400 >> that's what I mean. So, do you want a 1850 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:27,920 friendly amendment or what do you want 1851 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,600 to what do you want to do as the mayor? 1852 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,679 >> I we can I I think we should vote on all 1853 01:20:33,679 --> 01:20:35,520 the like I think my assumption when we 1854 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,640 moved this was a was the thousand as it 1855 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:38,880 was 1856 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,239 >> how the math works out like the 1857 01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:43,199 resolution says 51 families and so to 1858 01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:44,960 spend the money just the math is that it 1859 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:45,679 would be 1860 01:20:45,679 --> 01:20:48,400 >> like that's what you support. I think we 1861 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,800 should because it's unclear. I think we 1862 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:55,840 should all we should just vote on the number, but I have a question for 1863 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:56,480 staff before. 1864 01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:57,199 >> Okay. No, go ahead. 1865 01:20:57,199 --> 01:21:00,239 >> Yeah. So, um this question is just for 1866 01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:02,480 any staff who's worked on this. How 1867 01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:06,080 confident is are you that we can 1868 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,480 >> um and my brain is is fried with the 1869 01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:11,920 math part. So we need 15 150 families 1870 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:12,480 then 1871 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:13,600 >> we need 1872 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,080 >> So 1873 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,920 >> if we're doing 500 1874 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,159 >> 102 1875 01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:20,719 >> how confident are we that we 1876 01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:24,239 >> if we can do 99 families in one census 1877 01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:27,360 tract we can do 102 over the whole city. 1878 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:32,080 >> Okay. So um in that case 1879 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,040 we'll get the I don't know I will take 1880 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,920 that as a friendly amendment. 1881 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,280 So, 1882 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:40,719 >> okay. So, 1883 01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:41,679 >> 102 families 1884 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,360 >> currently amendment has been accepted. 1885 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,560 >> Yeah, I'll accept it. 1886 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,800 >> Um, 1887 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,480 council member suffered in 1888 01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,159 >> Yeah, I I just want to make sure we're 1889 01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:52,960 clear. So, it's 102 recipients at 500 a 1890 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,239 month citywide 1891 01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:55,360 >> for 6 months. 1892 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,840 >> Okay. And does anybody want to make 1893 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,159 amendments to the eligibility or we are 1894 01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,400 confident that with the existing 1895 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,199 eligibility we will find 102 recipients 1896 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:08,239 citywide for 6 months? Okay. Thank you. 1897 01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:09,440 >> So, but I have a question. 1898 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:10,719 >> Council member Harris. 1899 01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:13,120 >> So, what is the eligibility? Let me be 1900 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:13,679 clear. 1901 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:17,360 >> It's 185% of the federal poverty line 1902 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,639 living in Evston with children second 1903 01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:23,440 grade or younger. 1904 01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:26,400 185% of the federal poverty line, not 1905 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,960 coincidentally, is 1906 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,719 um the same eligibility for free and 1907 01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:32,400 reduced lunch, which is why we picked it 1908 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,840 so that we could work with the schools 1909 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,320 to figure out who was on those lists. 1910 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:42,080 Um, and we used um income tax returns as 1911 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,199 proof. So that has somebody's 1912 01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:47,520 address on it. It has their dependence 1913 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,520 and it has their income. 1914 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,000 >> Council member or Harris, did you have 1915 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,120 another question? 1916 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,040 >> I I wanted I don't know how we do it, 1917 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,040 but I wanted seniors in there. I didn't 1918 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:04,960 just want grade school. So 1919 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,320 yeah. Council member Kelly and then um 1920 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,159 I'm going to entertain after this 1921 01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:12,480 motions. Let's let's make motions. 1922 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:13,280 Council Kelly. 1923 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:14,719 >> Yes. So, I'd like to see it just opened 1924 01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:17,199 up to um so that we can include seniors 1925 01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:19,520 as well. Um I know they are impacted 1926 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,239 with the SNAP cuts also. So, um I would 1927 01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:25,360 move to expand it to anybody who's 1928 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,719 eligible at that income. 1929 01:23:28,719 --> 01:23:31,920 >> Um and Coun Council Rugie again, do we 1930 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,280 have to vote on this first? I can't 1931 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,639 remember. Or if somebody has another 1932 01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:36,960 idea, can they substitute or we have to 1933 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,520 vote on what we have before us first? 1934 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,040 >> My recommendation would be that this be 1935 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,960 an official amendment and then we go 1936 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,120 through amendments one at a time. 1937 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,120 >> So we would go through this first, 1938 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,639 Council Member Kelly, for example, we go 1939 01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:50,080 through that amendment first to see if 1940 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,199 there's support for it. Okay. Yep. 1941 01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:51,760 That's what I thought. 1942 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,000 >> So I'll re um ask a question. 1943 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,719 >> Uh Council Member Isles and I'll go back to you for a motion. 1944 01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:02,000 >> I want to clarify with staff. We're 1945 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,000 we've got a very short runway to spend 1946 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,080 this money before the end of the year. 1947 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,800 If we change the requirements from what 1948 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,040 they are now, which has sort of been 1949 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,800 established over the course of the last 1950 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,560 couple years, and we start messing 1951 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,960 around with requirements and who's 1952 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,960 eligible, are you still going to be able 1953 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,320 to deliver before the end of the year, 1954 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:21,360 or is that going to make it really 1955 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,440 difficult? 1956 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:25,360 When we did this program the first time 1957 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,440 around and we had those three very 1958 01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:30,000 distinct groups, 1959 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,560 um, we got 1960 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,600 over 2600 1961 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,120 applicants 1962 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,840 and a lot of them were applying from 1963 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,760 like Brazil and India and the UK. Like 1964 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,159 we had a lot of 1965 01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:49,360 spam and it took a long long time to get 1966 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,400 through that. um working through the 1967 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,080 schools is like a little bit different. 1968 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,320 You're not you don't have the spam. Um 1969 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,520 and it's a lot more targeted. Um opening 1970 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,840 it up to anybody at 185% of the federal 1971 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,400 poverty line is nothing we've ever dealt 1972 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,960 with before because we only the first 1973 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,239 time we did it, we had those three 1974 01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:16,080 distinct groups. And so um I am not 1975 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,920 It will add administrative burden. I 1976 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,600 have no idea what that's going to look 1977 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:20,080 like. 1978 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,120 >> Um, my gentle suggestion to my 1979 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,760 colleagues is that we get through this 1980 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,679 as simply as possible by the end of the 1981 01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:31,120 year. And if we're looking to create 1982 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,360 a subsequent program, then we start 1983 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,000 talking about who would be in it and 1984 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,840 whether it would include seniors. But 1985 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,400 I'm concerned that if we add seniors, 1986 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,880 it'll add some complexity and we won't 1987 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,320 distribute the money by the end of the 1988 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,400 year. But don't we have an um budsman 1989 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,199 that can help us do that? Somebody on 1990 01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:50,960 staff 1991 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,159 this question? 1992 01:25:52,159 --> 01:25:54,880 >> Um I can take that. So the arms budsman 1993 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,800 um is actually a state of Illinois 1994 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,600 employee and then she helps the city. So 1995 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,159 I don't know that she would be um able 1996 01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:04,080 to help with that. 1997 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,600 >> Yeah, she's limited to what the state 1998 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,920 allows. 1999 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,080 >> Um I'm going to sneak in a question. The 2000 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,760 first time we did guaranteed income, did 2001 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,320 that include seniors? Yes, I did. 2002 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,239 >> Can you um remind us all what the uh 2003 01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:20,159 criteria qualifications were for that? 2004 01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:22,880 >> Sure. We did um three different three 2005 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,159 different groups. We did um individuals 2006 01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:29,040 18 to 24 year old. Um we did 2007 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,159 undocumented folks and then individuals 2008 01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:34,320 65 and older and they all had to be in 2009 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,199 Evston and be at 250% of the federal 2010 01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:38,320 poverty line. 2011 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,560 >> Do you know how many participants who 2012 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,120 had 2013 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,600 >> 50 5050? It was 50 5050 which would have 2014 01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,480 been although 50 be okay. Um I only say 2015 01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:51,199 that because I know this you know it was 2016 01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:53,600 there was an intent intentional decision 2017 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,040 made to make an impact on this group. 2018 01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,960 And so I guess at this point we've 2019 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,239 helped 99 families that fall within this 2020 01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:05,280 uh eligibility criteria. 50 seniors so 2021 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,080 far. Um, 2022 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,000 you know, and how many participants are 2023 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,159 we saying we can help again with 2024 01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:15,360 >> if we if we do $500 a month, it'll be 2025 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,560 102 households. 2026 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,320 >> 102 households. Um, 2027 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,880 >> okay. Um, Council Member Kelly and then 2028 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,040 we're going to Somebody needs Oh, yeah. 2029 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,440 For an for an amendment. You have an 2030 01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:27,840 amendment? 2031 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,040 >> Yeah. But first, I just want to comment 2032 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,560 on Sean's comment. Yeah. That was why I 2033 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,159 originally said $1,000 because I 2034 01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:34,400 understand that what we're under to try 2035 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,719 to move this along and make sure that we 2036 01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:40,320 are able to actually pay this out. Um, 2037 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:41,440 so 2038 01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:42,320 >> thank you. 2039 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,719 >> So I mean we had an issue with getting 2040 01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:46,960 them all getting getting the money out 2041 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,719 there. That's why I thought expanding it 2042 01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:50,800 for citywide and then also to expand the 2043 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,120 eligibility. My question is what is do 2044 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,719 we have like a five-year residency 2045 01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:55,920 requirement? No, 2046 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,320 >> we don't have any. So someone could move 2047 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,080 here and correct tomorrow. 2048 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:00,480 >> Yes. 2049 01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:01,760 >> Okay. I would like to just add a 2050 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,760 fiveyear. Can we 2051 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:04,560 >> Okay. 2052 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,080 >> That's 2053 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:06,880 >> No, 2054 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,280 >> I just administratively that's uh it's 2055 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,560 that's tricky for for us to verify 2056 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,320 >> residency. Okay. 2057 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:16,639 >> Um 2058 01:28:16,639 --> 01:28:18,719 >> Okay. So at this point I'm I'm really 2059 01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:20,960 going to encourage amendments. So do you 2060 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:21,920 have an amendment? 2061 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,360 >> So um well citywide. So is that in 2062 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,520 number one that it's citywide? Correct. 2063 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,960 >> That is there. So, it's restricted to um 2064 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,520 families with children under a certain 2065 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:34,080 age. 2066 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,400 >> Correct. Yeah. And and it doesn't have 2067 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,080 if you're a grandparent and you're 2068 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,159 that's your dependent, you're still 2069 01:28:40,159 --> 01:28:43,120 eligible. There's no um age 2070 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,080 >> requirement for the head of household. 2071 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,520 It's just if whoever um is taking care 2072 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,639 of the child. 2073 01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:53,679 >> Okay. Um, I'd like to expand that to 2074 01:28:53,679 --> 01:28:56,639 include I won't say everybody, but to um 2075 01:28:56,639 --> 01:28:59,280 residents over 65. I just want to show 2076 01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:00,480 that we get it out since we've lowered 2077 01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:01,280 it to 500. 2078 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,960 >> Is that just you can make Yeah, just 2079 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:03,760 make the motion. 2080 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,480 >> Well, I just want to say really quickly, 2081 01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:08,320 um, 2082 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,280 about those 65 and older, I think one 2083 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,280 thing to consider is that 55 to 64, 2084 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,400 those are the folks who are going to be 2085 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,639 losing SNAP 2086 01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:21,360 and have the work requirement. So, just 2087 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:22,639 something else to consider. 2088 01:29:22,639 --> 01:29:23,840 >> So, do that 55. 2089 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,719 >> Do you want to change or 65 and up? 2090 01:29:26,719 --> 01:29:32,790 >> Um, 2091 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,800 uh, no, I'll just leave it. That's fine. 2092 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,239 Unless somebody else wants to amend it, 2093 01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:36,480 but 2094 01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,239 >> All right. So, the motion has been made 2095 01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:39,840 or amendment has been made by Council 2096 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,360 Member Kelly. Is there a second? 2097 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,560 >> No, I didn't actually make it. I 2098 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:43,040 withdrew it. 2099 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:43,679 >> Oh, you withdrawn it. 2100 01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:46,000 >> I just as long as it's citywide. Um, 2101 01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:46,639 yeah. 2102 01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:48,400 >> So, no aid. We're not increasing the 2103 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,920 age. 2104 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,199 You're not doing it. Okay. All right. 2105 01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:53,520 Anybody else have any amendments? Seeing 2106 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,840 none, let's do you do? 2107 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:56,239 >> Yeah. 2108 01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:57,520 >> Council member Harris, 2109 01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,600 >> I I'm gonna go back to what I said 2110 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,120 originally. Seniors I'll take the 55 to 2111 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:07,280 64. So, I'm I um I'd like to amend it to 2112 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:12,239 include 55 to 64 with the two. You said 2113 01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:16,960 a number for um 2114 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,360 AMI 210. 2115 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:20,719 >> You do you want it to be different than 2116 01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:22,400 what everyone else is? 2117 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:22,960 >> No, it can be. 2118 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,719 >> Okay. It's 185 for everyone. 2119 01:30:24,719 --> 01:30:26,000 >> Okay. 185. 2120 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:26,800 >> And I'll second that. 2121 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,239 >> And so 55 and up or 55 to 60? 2122 01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:31,120 >> 55 and up. 2123 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,000 Okay. So a motion has been 2124 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,040 made to amend the guarantee program. Is 2125 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,639 there a second? It's been seconded by 2126 01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:41,520 Council Member Kelly. Um, Council Member 2127 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,639 Manusma. 2128 01:30:42,639 --> 01:30:46,239 >> Thank you. I I'm 100% with you in spirit 2129 01:30:46,239 --> 01:30:49,040 uh and in theory, but I'm going to side 2130 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,360 with Council Member Isles because we 2131 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,679 have an existing program and we're in a 2132 01:30:53,679 --> 01:30:55,199 time crunch to get this money out the 2133 01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:56,880 door. I think we need to focus on 2134 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,400 simplicity and adding the uh if if we're 2135 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,000 going to do this program on an ongoing 2136 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,719 basis, absolutely, let's talk about 2137 01:31:04,719 --> 01:31:07,600 increasing the age uh requirement. But 2138 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,360 for right now, uh, I'm going to, um, 2139 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,120 suggest we keep it as it is. 2140 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,960 >> But we already had a program. She said 2141 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,840 we had three programs that had seniors. 2142 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,480 Correct. You said we had seniors, 2143 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:24,229 undocumented. 2144 01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:25,760 » Yeah. For the first round, right? 2145 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,120 >> Yeah. So, we So, they're out there. 2146 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,040 >> Uh, Council Member Rogers, 2147 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,400 >> everybody that would be involved in this 2148 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,040 round would have to reapply, correct? 2149 01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:36,960 or would have to apply under these 2150 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,639 conditions. We don't have a pool of 2151 01:31:38,639 --> 01:31:40,159 people that we're waiting to give money 2152 01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:42,400 to outside of the original group of 2153 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,520 people. 2154 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,560 >> Correct. 2155 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,800 >> So whether we make a requirement that 2156 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,960 they be over a certain age or anything 2157 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,400 else, you're still going to have to 2158 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:51,760 screen these people from the very 2159 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:52,639 beginning. Correct. 2160 01:31:52,639 --> 01:31:53,440 >> Yeah, that's right. 2161 01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:54,800 >> All right. Thank you. 2162 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,880 >> All right. Um, 2163 01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,000 roll call, please. 2164 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:01,600 >> Council member Haragaris. 2165 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,320 >> No. Council member Kelly, 2166 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,320 >> I. 2167 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,239 >> Council member Harris, 2168 01:32:08,239 --> 01:32:08,560 >> yeah. 2169 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:09,120 >> I, 2170 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,159 >> Council Member Isles, 2171 01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:10,880 >> no. 2172 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:12,000 >> Council member Nusma, 2173 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,440 >> no. 2174 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:14,880 >> Council member Suffford, 2175 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:15,520 >> hi. 2176 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:16,719 >> Council member Davis, 2177 01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:17,440 >> hi. 2178 01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:18,560 >> Council member Rogers, 2179 01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:19,199 >> hi. 2180 01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:20,400 >> Council member Burns, 2181 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,400 >> hi. 2182 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:23,440 >> What does that leave us with? 2183 01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:24,159 >> 63. 2184 01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:25,040 >> Give me one second. 2185 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,159 >> 63. 2186 01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:26,880 >> That was 63. 2187 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:27,440 >> 63. 2188 01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:31,199 >> Okay. Um, and then now the underlying 2189 01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:33,440 motion, correct? 2190 01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:35,360 Um, 2191 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,280 unless we have any other comments, we'll 2192 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:38,719 take a roll call on it, 2193 01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:40,400 >> which is what 500 2194 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:41,679 >> citywide 2195 01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:43,280 >> 500 102. 2196 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,360 >> I just want to be clear 2197 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:50,320 >> citywide. So to 102 people 2198 01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:57,510 >> all right. Y 2199 01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:02,880 » um and just to clarify, we okay 500 um 2200 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,880 102 participants um 2201 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:11,199 with 185 AMI 2202 01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:12,239 >> okay 2203 01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:16,480 >> of of not AMI 185% of the level. 2204 01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:24,149 Allison, could you just uh wouldn't mind saying it one more time, 2205 01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:26,480 » 102 families 2206 01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:29,360 >> in two what? 2207 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,000 >> Never mind. 2208 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:30,400 >> You sure? 2209 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:30,719 >> Yeah. 2210 01:33:30,719 --> 01:33:34,159 >> Okay. Two different groups. 2211 01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:35,760 >> And I assume there's no distinction 2212 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,920 between them. How many people in each 2213 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:39,679 one? Like 2214 01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:40,239 >> correct. 2215 01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:44,800 >> Okay. um people for both groups 185% of 2216 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,080 the federal poverty line not ami 100% 2217 01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,960 185% of the federal poverty line living 2218 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,880 in Evston one group with second graders 2219 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,920 or younger and the other group 55 and 2220 01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,920 older. Okay, perfect. Thank you. 2221 01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:01,280 >> All right. 2222 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:01,679 >> Okay. 2223 01:34:01,679 --> 01:34:02,480 >> Roll call, please. 2224 01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:04,080 >> Council member Heracaris, 2225 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:04,719 >> I. 2226 01:34:04,719 --> 01:34:05,920 >> Council member Kelly, 2227 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:06,320 >> I. 2228 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:07,440 >> Council member Harris, 2229 01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:07,840 >> hi. 2230 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:08,800 >> Council member Isles. 2231 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:09,120 >> Hi. 2232 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:10,719 >> Council member Nusma. Hi, 2233 01:34:10,719 --> 01:34:11,840 >> Council Member Suffered. 2234 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:12,159 >> Hi, 2235 01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:13,520 >> Council Member Davis. Hi, 2236 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:14,480 >> Council Member Rogers. 2237 01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:14,800 >> Hi, 2238 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:15,760 >> Council Member Burns. 2239 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,679 >> Hi. 2240 01:34:17,679 --> 01:34:20,320 >> Um, all right. We have SP1 approved. 2241 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,639 Next up, uh, if I can have a motion for 2242 01:34:22,639 --> 01:34:27,270 SP2, please. 2243 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,239 » Mr. Chair, I would move um item SP2, 2244 01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:32,960 resolution 86R26, 2245 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,480 additional financial support for the 2246 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:35,520 Wesley tenants. 2247 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,199 >> It's been properly moved by council 2248 01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:38,719 member Rogers. Is there a second? 2249 01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:40,480 >> Oh, second. Seconded by Council Member 2250 01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:43,830 Hedikatis. 2251 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,320 » Um, you want to go first? Yep. Council 2252 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:47,520 member Rogers, you have 2253 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,360 >> Oh, I guess I was reaching for my light. 2254 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,080 You caught me off guard. Um, yeah. So, 2255 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,239 this is something I think is something 2256 01:34:54,239 --> 01:34:57,040 the city has to do um to support people. 2257 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,679 We we um 2258 01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:02,320 I as a newer council member don't know 2259 01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,800 the whole history behind all of this. 2260 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,120 Um, I'm trying to learn it, but I want 2261 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:08,560 to make sure that we do not repeat 2262 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,040 something like this again. Um, I think 2263 01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,199 there's blame to go around for 2264 01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:15,760 everybody. Um, but I do also want to 2265 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,080 apologize to these tenants because we 2266 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,280 did relocate them, um, through no fault 2267 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:25,679 of their own. And, um, I think we need 2268 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:28,639 to, uh, figure out what lessons can be 2269 01:35:28,639 --> 01:35:30,719 learned here. Um there's a bunch of 2270 01:35:30,719 --> 01:35:33,840 questions in my mind about uh whether 2271 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,480 inspections were done on time and in a 2272 01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:40,000 timely manner. Um 2273 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,360 about um you know sort of the the the 2274 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:44,639 money that we're spending. Could that 2275 01:35:44,639 --> 01:35:46,320 have been spent rather than relocating 2276 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,440 people to put towards repairs um and 2277 01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:51,199 finding other sources of income for 2278 01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:56,000 that? Um, so but I stand fully behind uh 2279 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,920 making uh Council Member Burns request 2280 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,000 for additional funding for the people um 2281 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,760 that we have displaced. 2282 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,639 >> Uh Council Member Harris, 2283 01:36:04,639 --> 01:36:07,679 >> thank you. Um so I just have a number of 2284 01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:10,480 questions and I don't know who can 2285 01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:13,199 answer, but I I I'm looking at these 2286 01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:15,520 rents and they're really high. I don't 2287 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,560 remember the families being this many 2288 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,560 people. So can I go through? I don't 2289 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,000 know who I'd be asking if that's Sarah. 2290 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,679 Um about the households 2291 01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:30,480 in general. 2292 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:35,520 Um so household one um the current rent 2293 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:40,400 is 2600. How many bedrooms is that? 2294 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,800 >> I don't have all that detail on these. I 2295 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,040 can try to answer what I can, but my 2296 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,320 expectation is it's a two or maybe a 2297 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,760 threebedroom. 2298 01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,920 Okay. Would somebody have that 2299 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,760 information? 2300 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,159 >> Who is this? I got to go between a few 2301 01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:57,440 different things, but what what 2302 01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:58,320 household is this again? 2303 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,800 >> Household number one. Household of four. 2304 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,520 >> Okay. Give me one one moment. 2305 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,280 >> So, I have a set of standard questions 2306 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,480 that I'm going to ask for every 2307 01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:09,199 household. So, I need somebody to have 2308 01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:10,400 some answers. 2309 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:15,040 >> Um, Ike Agbo is on line, too. and um our 2310 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,679 social services group was directly 2311 01:37:17,679 --> 01:37:19,119 involved with some of these. So I don't 2312 01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:21,360 know if I can answer questions on the 2313 01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,440 individuals. I'll answer the ones I can 2314 01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:24,880 and we'll try to get other people in the 2315 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:25,520 ones that I 2316 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,280 >> somebody will need to answer them. So if 2317 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,040 it's you that would be great. If it's 2318 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,280 somebody else that will be fine, but I 2319 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,360 do need answers. So household number 2320 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,920 one, household of four, that's how many 2321 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,600 bedrooms 2322 01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,360 do we know? 2323 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,800 >> I don't know. I believe 2324 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,639 real quick. So, let me let me let me uh 2325 01:37:44,639 --> 01:37:46,400 try to handle this first cuz I think I 2326 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,960 can get answers quicker. So, we're 2327 01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,000 talking household I got everything 2328 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:50,880 pulled up now. You talking about 2329 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:51,600 household one? 2330 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,280 >> Yes. I'm going to go through each one. 2331 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,520 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, household one. 2332 01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,639 >> I thought somebody online also 2333 01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:01,440 >> I don't think they have access to I mean 2334 01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:03,920 council member I director Ike. Was that 2335 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:04,960 you? 2336 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,679 >> Yes, I'm I'm here. Good day members of 2337 01:38:07,679 --> 01:38:10,159 the city council. This is Ike Health and 2338 01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:12,880 Human Services Department. Um yes, we 2339 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,040 work closely with Connections for the 2340 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,600 Homeless uh regarding this this matter. 2341 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,600 Um Connections for the Homeless pretty 2342 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,639 much took the upper hand in assessing 2343 01:38:22,639 --> 01:38:26,400 the the families and where to to locate 2344 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:30,239 them and the rent. Uh but we have some 2345 01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:33,679 information that we can relay. I don't 2346 01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:36,239 have that right in front of me. Uh, but 2347 01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:38,480 we do have our human services specialist 2348 01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:41,040 Maurice Wilkinson who can 2349 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,560 >> Thank you. Maurice 2350 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,360 >> our number it's again if I can now 2351 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,159 >> I'm here. Hello. 2352 01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:46,960 >> It's three bedrooms. 2353 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:47,360 >> I'm here. 2354 01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:48,560 >> It's three bedrooms. 2355 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:49,520 >> Yeah. 2356 01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:49,840 >> So 2357 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:50,560 >> what's the next one? 2358 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,800 >> I've told it was three bedrooms. 2359 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,600 Everybody there. So the three bedrooms 2360 01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,440 it's household of four. Are there people 2361 01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:04,229 over the age of 18 2362 01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:05,920 in household 2363 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,239 >> that are contributing or just there? 2364 01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:12,960 >> Okay. Um, as I stated, I have our human 2365 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,960 service specialist, Maurice Wilkinson, 2366 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,480 who's here, I believe. 2367 01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:18,159 >> Hello. Hello, city council. I'm here. 2368 01:39:18,159 --> 01:39:20,080 Ike. Hello, council. Good 2369 01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:21,600 evening, council. Um, yes, that 2370 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,400 household has uh from my information, 2371 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,520 they have two adults over 18. 2372 01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,920 Okay. And are they helping contribute? 2373 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,760 Are they part of the 2374 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,480 income we're considering? 2375 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:38,400 >> No. The only income that was reported on 2376 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,400 there is from the uh head of the 2377 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:41,520 household. 2378 01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,040 >> Okay. 2379 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,880 Number two, household of one. So that is 2380 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:51,600 one person. Their current rent is 17. Um 2381 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,679 and how 2382 01:39:53,679 --> 01:39:55,199 that's good. That's good. That's a one 2383 01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:57,119 bed for one bedroom. 2384 01:39:57,119 --> 01:39:59,440 >> Okay, thank you. One bedroom. Household 2385 01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:02,480 number three, household of three. How 2386 01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:05,679 many what? One or two bedrooms? Probably 2387 01:40:05,679 --> 01:40:07,119 two. 2388 01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:09,840 >> That's a twobedroom and both I think um 2389 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,760 if I'm correct, those she that no one in 2390 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,239 that household is um over 18. 2391 01:40:14,239 --> 01:40:17,990 >> Okay. 2392 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,400 Um household number four, household of 2393 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,080 four. 2394 01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:27,430 Um, how many bedrooms? 2395 01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:30,159 » That's a three bedroomedroom. And they 2396 01:40:30,159 --> 01:40:32,639 have one they have one um family member 2397 01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:34,800 over 18, but he's in college. 2398 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,119 >> Okay. So, he's in college. And then 2399 01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:40,400 there's one other adult contributing. 2400 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:41,840 That's where the income is from. 2401 01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,480 >> Just Yeah, just one adult. Yep. 2402 01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:47,199 >> Okay. Household number five. How many 2403 01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:51,910 bedrooms? How many adults? 2404 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:55,920 Um five is household of two uh two 2405 01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:00,639 bedrooms. One adult, one one one uh 2406 01:41:00,639 --> 01:41:02,560 just a Yeah, a child. 2407 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,360 >> Okay. And then household number six. How 2408 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:09,440 many bedrooms? How many adults? 2409 01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:12,000 >> Two adults. The income is from one adult 2410 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,920 and uh two bedroom. 2411 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,080 >> Okay. 2412 01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,600 is um are any of these a reason why if 2413 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,360 there's more than one adult there isn't 2414 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,800 more than one income listed or asked for 2415 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,719 or required? 2416 01:41:26,719 --> 01:41:31,280 >> Um yes. So whoever yeah it's only one 2417 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,760 income. Well we when we um from our 2418 01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,639 research we the information we gather 2419 01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:39,040 whenever we we we tried to verify income 2420 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,840 only the income you see is is from the 2421 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,600 individual in the household. So the 2422 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,040 other individual doesn't have any 2423 01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,760 income. 2424 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:48,239 >> Okay. 2425 01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:49,840 >> For house I mean if I know for household 2426 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,520 six for sure 2427 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:56,159 >> for six and the single one as well. 2428 01:41:56,159 --> 01:41:57,760 >> Yeah. But we didn't I didn't we we 2429 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,520 didn't get a chance to um run the adults 2430 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,719 in that household um 2431 01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:06,239 to see if they you know anyone was 2432 01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:08,480 working in there. 2433 01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:10,639 I just know for sure the household 60 2434 01:42:10,639 --> 01:42:12,320 ramp both of those individuals 2435 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:13,440 information. 2436 01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:16,480 >> Okay. Thank you. 2437 01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:19,040 >> Uh, Council Member Kelly. 2438 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,360 >> Thank you. So, I also support this and 2439 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,440 again I I agree with Council Member 2440 01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:26,000 Rogers and at some point um taking a 2441 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,520 hard look at how this happens so we can 2442 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,560 avoid this was very upsetting um to many 2443 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,800 families and and seniors especially 2444 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:34,719 senior citizens. So I guess my question 2445 01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:37,840 is I thought so we gave connections for 2446 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,800 the homeless 800,000 what I understood 2447 01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,840 to be for this that so are you saying 2448 01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,639 that only 417,000 2449 01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:50,000 of that 800,000 went to support? No. 2450 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,639 >> Um this was not exclusively for the 2451 01:42:52,639 --> 01:42:54,320 Wesley tenants. It was the first group 2452 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,639 that we helped. Council member Burns 2453 01:42:56,639 --> 01:42:58,960 made it very clear that he did not want 2454 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,639 the money to be used only in 8092 even. 2455 01:43:02,639 --> 01:43:04,719 Um and it was opened up and there are 2456 01:43:04,719 --> 01:43:06,000 additional households that are helped 2457 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,440 with the rest of that money. 2458 01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:08,880 >> Okay. So somewhere there's an accounting 2459 01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,560 of that other 400,000. 2460 01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:11,040 >> Yes. 2461 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:12,560 >> For Okay. 2462 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,800 >> Okay. Well, thank you. That's all. 2463 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,880 >> Council member Anusma, 2464 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,440 >> uh how much does it cost to administer 2465 01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:21,119 this program? So, what are the overhead 2466 01:43:21,119 --> 01:43:24,239 costs and and who pays for those? 2467 01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,320 >> Um connections gets some of the money 2468 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,960 for of of that 810,000 for the case 2469 01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:33,600 management. That's the bulk of it. Um 2470 01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,840 we actually Maurice is doing a great 2471 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,199 deal of work with this group and um we 2472 01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:43,040 have um we had some 2473 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,960 funding that is in our ARPA 2474 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,840 administration that we have used to pay 2475 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:52,320 for some of um Maurice's time on this 2476 01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,239 and the other um rent assistance 2477 01:43:54,239 --> 01:43:58,080 programs but it's only like 45,000 for 2478 01:43:58,080 --> 01:43:59,760 both of them over the period of time. 2479 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,280 So, the request in front of us tonight, 2480 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:05,109 $63,229.50 2481 01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:07,520 is direct for the tenants. That does not 2482 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,239 include correct. Yeah, 2483 01:44:10,239 --> 01:44:12,239 >> we're absorbing that or connections is 2484 01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:12,960 absorbing that. 2485 01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,400 >> Um, well, no, Connections is getting 2486 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,239 some of that paid for out of the because 2487 01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:18,719 they have a Yeah, but we are absorbing 2488 01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:21,920 most of our staff that's been working on 2489 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:22,560 it. 2490 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,920 >> Okay. I support this. Um, you know, I do 2491 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,560 think this is special treatment for a a 2492 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,639 select population. Uh, but as some of my 2493 01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:35,040 colleagues have pointed out, uh, it's a 2494 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,840 unique uh, situation. So, special 2495 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,280 treatment is, uh, is called for here. 2496 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:42,800 Um, [clears throat] 2497 01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,080 but we can't let this kind of thing 2498 01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,400 happen again. 2499 01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,679 >> Council member Harris, 2500 01:44:49,679 --> 01:44:54,950 >> thank you. Um, 2501 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,320 this is a hard place to be. And my 2502 01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,639 understanding, somebody told me today 2503 01:45:00,639 --> 01:45:02,719 one of the other porches collapsed 2504 01:45:02,719 --> 01:45:06,400 within the past week. I don't know 2505 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:07,520 >> that's true. 2506 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:12,000 >> Well, not know it's true, but yeah. Um, 2507 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,080 so 2508 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,600 financial literacy, I'm going to keep 2509 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,600 talking about this because we're giving 2510 01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,639 money and and we should, but at the same 2511 01:45:20,639 --> 01:45:24,320 time, we shouldn't without 2512 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,040 some parameters to make sure, what do 2513 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,840 they say? If you feed somebody fish, 2514 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:31,600 they're going to be they're good. If you 2515 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,600 teach them how to fish, they can do it. 2516 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,840 So, we have to teach people, 2517 01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,239 self-inccluded. There was a time where I 2518 01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:41,119 needed some financial literacy 2519 01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:44,239 because I just was spending money like I 2520 01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:47,920 had it. So, is there some financial 2521 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,480 literacy tied up in this? Be it through 2522 01:45:50,480 --> 01:45:53,760 the Y is is there some at this 2523 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,480 point because we've gotten almost half 2524 01:45:56,480 --> 01:45:59,840 off of it. Is there some something we're 2525 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,800 going to do with some literacy? 2526 01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,040 um all of the households if they were 2527 01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,800 cooperating got wraparound services and 2528 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,880 some of the households were more able to 2529 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,280 cooperate and were more cooperative but 2530 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,239 it's very difficult to force people to 2531 01:46:16,239 --> 01:46:19,780 take services um and they 2532 01:46:19,780 --> 01:46:20,320 [clears throat] 2533 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:21,119 >> stop 2534 01:46:21,119 --> 01:46:23,199 >> uh 2535 01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:25,600 it's 2536 01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,400 I'm frustrated I'm I'm very frustrated 2537 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,040 >> so it's hard for us to make them do 2538 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,239 something but it's going to hire for 2539 01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:34,719 them take this money 2540 01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:36,719 is that 2541 01:46:36,719 --> 01:46:37,760 okay that's what I thought 2542 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,520 >> people are in very different situations 2543 01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:43,520 >> I get it I get it I I totally get it but 2544 01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,400 I need to know so for this round I would 2545 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,119 like for anybody on this list to be 2546 01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:52,159 mandated to do some kind of federal 2547 01:46:52,159 --> 01:46:54,320 financial literacy 2548 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,639 because what changes in a year if it 2549 01:46:56,639 --> 01:46:59,440 hasn't changed now what changes what's 2550 01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:03,199 going to be different in a year 2551 01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:06,320 was different if the behavior or things 2552 01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,239 haven't changed and you're saying 2553 01:47:08,239 --> 01:47:10,080 cooperating. So if somebody wasn't 2554 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,239 cooperating, I almost want to know 2555 01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:14,800 because maybe they're not eligible. If 2556 01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:16,719 you're not cooperating with what we're 2557 01:47:16,719 --> 01:47:20,159 saying you need to do so that we can 2558 01:47:20,159 --> 01:47:23,199 move on and maybe figure out how to fix 2559 01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:26,080 the problem we found ourselves in 2560 01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,400 because this was not initially our 2561 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,960 problem. it became our problem because 2562 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,520 maybe CO messed up our time frame of 2563 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:35,199 checking things, but this wasn't our 2564 01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:36,400 building. 2565 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:42,159 >> Correct. Um originally the um what was 2566 01:47:42,159 --> 01:47:45,040 the promise that was made um upfront was 2567 01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,840 that all the tenants would get at least 2568 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,159 a year of rent support. 2569 01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:53,360 >> Mhm. um those who were income eligible 2570 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,760 whose incomes were under 80% of the area 2571 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,040 median income would be qualified for a 2572 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:05,119 second one but that was the end of the 2573 01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:07,280 initial promise. 2574 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,280 >> Okay. So I'm just again trying to 2575 01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:11,040 understand why we're still here, what 2576 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,360 would change in a year. Um 2577 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,560 >> I'm not a case manager. maybe um Ike and 2578 01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,760 his uh group would be better able to 2579 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,400 respond to some of those questions. 2580 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,080 >> Right. Uh good day everyone. Uh it is an 2581 01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,119 item that we can incorporate in case 2582 01:48:31,119 --> 01:48:35,440 management this time around that it be 2583 01:48:35,440 --> 01:48:37,920 some financial literacy in order for 2584 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:42,800 individuals to qualify for an extension 2585 01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,199 of a year. And I I think if we put that 2586 01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:48,320 we will make the individuals more 2587 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,119 successful in transition of of the 2588 01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:55,119 program in the subsequent year. 2589 01:48:55,119 --> 01:48:57,520 >> Uh C 2590 01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,159 council member Rogers. 2591 01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:02,320 >> Thank you. Um I don't think financial 2592 01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,080 literacy is the thing that got us here 2593 01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,719 to be quite honest. Um were these people 2594 01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:09,840 at risk of being of losing their homes 2595 01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:14,709 before we moved them out? Do we know 2596 01:49:14,719 --> 01:49:18,159 » the property was not being managed by 2597 01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:20,719 the property owners? 2598 01:49:20,719 --> 01:49:23,199 Leases weren't being rewritten. They had 2599 01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:27,199 a superintendent managing the buildings. 2600 01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:29,040 >> Were they at risk of losing their homes 2601 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,440 because of financial issues from them? 2602 01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:33,840 >> Um well, a number of them were not 2603 01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:35,920 paying anything. we don't have 2604 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:37,600 background on they weren't income 2605 01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,520 qualified and various other things to 2606 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,040 the best of our knowledge during that 2607 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:42,159 period of time. 2608 01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:46,239 >> Okay. Um I think it's a little um 2609 01:49:46,239 --> 01:49:50,080 frustrating for me that we're going to 2610 01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,560 uh ask people that we've relocated out 2611 01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:56,239 of their homes to um go through 2612 01:49:56,239 --> 01:50:01,119 additional steps. This is we we we are equally responsible for these 2613 01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:02,560 people being gone. And I know you and I 2614 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,920 have talked about that, Miss Flax, and 2615 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,480 we have a difference of opinion on um 2616 01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:09,199 people's uh level of responsibility, but 2617 01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:10,800 I've heard from a couple council members 2618 01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,560 up here that we do need to figure out 2619 01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,719 what happened. And I do want to make 2620 01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:17,040 sure that once we vote on this tonight, 2621 01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,679 we just don't forget about this and not 2622 01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:22,639 come back to it. Um so that is something 2623 01:50:22,639 --> 01:50:26,960 that I really want us to do. Um but I 2624 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:32,000 think again people who who we have we 2625 01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,719 have moved out of their homes um to 2626 01:50:34,719 --> 01:50:38,400 start uh 2627 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:39,920 saying well they're being uncooperative 2628 01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,280 with us. Um 2629 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,840 I I just I just don't think that's the 2630 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,159 best approach. I think that these people 2631 01:50:48,159 --> 01:50:50,320 we have we have put them in a situation 2632 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:52,159 it's our responsibility to take care of 2633 01:50:52,159 --> 01:50:54,320 them for at least one more year. 2634 01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,199 um and do what we can to move them into 2635 01:50:57,199 --> 01:50:58,639 permanent housing. It sounds like we've 2636 01:50:58,639 --> 01:51:00,080 been successful with a number of those 2637 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,800 people already. Um and my hope is that 2638 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,480 in the next year we can get the 2639 01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:09,040 remaining few um back onto their feet um 2640 01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:12,000 so they're able to support themselves. 2641 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,080 >> Council member Kelly, I think you had 2642 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,679 your 2643 01:51:15,679 --> 01:51:18,719 >> Thank you. Um I concur with Council 2644 01:51:18,719 --> 01:51:20,400 Member Rogers. I think I'm more 2645 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,400 concerned about um I'm glad to hear that 2646 01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:25,520 wraparound service were offered and we 2647 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,280 have records so we know how many people 2648 01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,159 were either offered or took wraparound 2649 01:51:30,159 --> 01:51:30,960 services. 2650 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,560 >> Everybody was offered 2651 01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,080 >> right. So I guess my question is how is 2652 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,520 that and I know for HIPPA we can't 2653 01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:39,760 obviously um don't get identities but I 2654 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,080 so I I'm curious as to how were those 2655 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,760 records like how those are documented. 2656 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,960 Case managers have regular files that 2657 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:50,800 they keep track of. They keep track of 2658 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,280 the meetings. They keep track of the 2659 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,360 progress. They keep track of understood. 2660 01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,199 But it's a third party. So, how do we 2661 01:51:57,199 --> 01:51:59,199 provide the oversight to en to to know 2662 01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:01,199 that the money we've given out and if 2663 01:52:01,199 --> 01:52:03,119 it's I think to council member um 2664 01:52:03,119 --> 01:52:05,280 Harris's concern about you know the 2665 01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,760 support needed. I'm just curious. I'm 2666 01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,360 not I'm wondering how does the city 2667 01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:13,040 monitor when we give out $800,000 for um 2668 01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,440 to a third party to provide services 2669 01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:17,280 that they are in fact I know we don't 2670 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:19,360 have they have the case manager so how 2671 01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,920 do we verify that the services are in 2672 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:25,510 fact delivered 2673 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,440 we do on-site monitoring sometimes and 2674 01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:30,159 sometimes we review some of those files 2675 01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:32,560 I have not done it with these personally 2676 01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,080 um the other thing is we look at the 2677 01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,800 successes um when you have people who 2678 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:43,440 are very low income. And of 18, 2679 01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:48,239 well, first of all, there were um two, 2680 01:52:48,239 --> 01:52:50,480 you know, there's outcomes for each one 2681 01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:52,159 of these groups. The first one is stable 2682 01:52:52,159 --> 01:52:53,840 housing was secured for five households 2683 01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,480 within a year of being evacuated. Two 2684 01:52:56,480 --> 01:52:58,080 were moved into subsidized senior 2685 01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,400 housing. They had very low incomes, but 2686 01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:04,480 they accepted subsidized senior housing. 2687 01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:07,440 Um, one received a permanent housing sub 2688 01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:09,360 subsidy and one was not eligible for a 2689 01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,040 second year of assistance based on their 2690 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,679 income and took over their rent. 10 2691 01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:16,080 households in addition are stably housed 2692 01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:17,920 after completing or nearing completion 2693 01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:19,199 of two years of rent. 2694 01:53:19,199 --> 01:53:20,880 >> Sorry, if I may. So, yes, I understand 2695 01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,880 the housing piece and we're glad um they 2696 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,480 got housing. I was just dovetailing a 2697 01:53:24,480 --> 01:53:26,880 bit on Council Member Harris's question 2698 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,960 regarding supports and I and it sounds 2699 01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:30,320 like we don't have documentation on it, 2700 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:31,360 but that's all I wanted to know. Thank 2701 01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,080 you. But every household gets different 2702 01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:35,679 services based on their needs. I'm 2703 01:53:35,679 --> 01:53:37,360 >> just right. We just don't have any 2704 01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,360 records or to verify is what you just 2705 01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:40,400 said that in this case 2706 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,719 >> I said I haven't personally verified 2707 01:53:42,719 --> 01:53:43,760 them. 2708 01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:47,199 >> Uh council member Harris. 2709 01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:51,520 So, just going back to the memo. Um, I I 2710 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,840 remember when I sat in on the Wesley 2711 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,950 conversation, 2712 01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:00,080 a a tenant mentioned that they had a 2713 01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,599 hole in their roof and they could not 2714 01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:04,480 sleep in their bedroom when it rained 2715 01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:08,759 because rain came into their homes. Um, 2716 01:54:08,759 --> 01:54:09,679 [clears throat] 2717 01:54:09,679 --> 01:54:13,520 didn't HOCC take were they in charge of 2718 01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,320 this property? Who owned this property? 2719 01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,320 The Evston Housing Coalition is the 2720 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:21,119 owner. The Evston Housing Coalition is a 2721 01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:25,199 nonprofit that um lost its capacity to 2722 01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:26,239 manage these buildings, 2723 01:54:26,239 --> 01:54:27,599 >> right? 2724 01:54:27,599 --> 01:54:29,920 um 2725 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,560 they 2726 01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:36,639 got HODC or contracted with HODC to try 2727 01:54:36,639 --> 01:54:39,920 to get the property under control, you 2728 01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,920 know, get them um and HODC found that 2729 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:45,840 they did not many of the people had not 2730 01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:49,119 had leases renewed. they had not had any 2731 01:54:49,119 --> 01:54:51,440 number of other things done including 2732 01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:53,440 income certifications probably all the 2733 01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,520 sort of stuff that you normally do with 2734 01:54:55,520 --> 01:55:00,239 this kind of housing. Um and um there 2735 01:55:00,239 --> 01:55:03,599 was um one of the residents who had been 2736 01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:06,719 given responsibility for managing the 2737 01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:09,040 actual property. 2738 01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:09,520 >> Okay. 2739 01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,080 So, I was just trying to 2740 01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:16,000 understand the finances, but um I'm just 2741 01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:19,040 go I'm going to struggle with a person 2742 01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,599 is being evicted for non-payment of 2743 01:55:21,599 --> 01:55:24,239 their share and they've already received 2744 01:55:24,239 --> 01:55:26,960 24 months of rent assistance and a 2745 01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:30,320 six-month extension. What changes? What 2746 01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,199 is different? Then we have a senior that 2747 01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:35,040 has an adult child that doesn't 2748 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,400 contribute towards the rent, but we now 2749 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,119 have to what 2750 01:55:41,119 --> 01:55:43,040 those are things that are just causing 2751 01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:45,040 me pause. 2752 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,280 >> But I get it. We're We are partially 2753 01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,400 responsible, but are we done in a year? 2754 01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,719 If if this comes back, Council Member 2755 01:55:52,719 --> 01:55:56,159 Burns, are we done in a year? 2756 01:55:56,159 --> 01:55:58,239 >> My question to you. Yeah, I'm gonna go 2757 01:55:58,239 --> 01:56:00,159 to Council Member Kelly next and I was 2758 01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:02,239 going to speak at the end. I I'm I'm 2759 01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:04,159 pretty confident that all the questions 2760 01:56:04,159 --> 01:56:08,239 that I've heard I can answer. Um and so 2761 01:56:08,239 --> 01:56:11,679 um I will do that after everyone uh 2762 01:56:11,679 --> 01:56:13,679 speaks their mind. Council member Kelly, 2763 01:56:13,679 --> 01:56:15,599 >> thank you. So um you know there were 2764 01:56:15,599 --> 01:56:17,520 many I don't know upwards of 25 2765 01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,440 residents living there mostly for the 2766 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,440 most part doing fine. Um maybe there 2767 01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:22,880 were one or two that were having some 2768 01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,880 financial issues. 2769 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,560 So I just asked about the sports in 2770 01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,480 general. I think on a broader discussion 2771 01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,199 about you know how we ensure that you 2772 01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:33,199 know a lot of tax dollar that's provided 2773 01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:36,960 to third parties um this would be for 2774 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:38,159 another day but I would like to 2775 01:56:38,159 --> 01:56:39,840 encourage that we do look at that how 2776 01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:41,840 much goes to overhead how much how do we 2777 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:43,920 verify um that appropriate and 2778 01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,599 sufficient services are in fact being 2779 01:56:45,599 --> 01:56:51,270 delivered so that's all thank you 2780 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,709 » um 2781 01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:56,159 the first thing I want to start off by 2782 01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:59,679 saying that that um we have one person, 2783 01:56:59,679 --> 01:57:02,159 one of the six households is on social 2784 01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:05,360 security. The other five have full-time 2785 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:07,599 employment. I just want to make this 2786 01:57:07,599 --> 01:57:10,880 very clear that these are hardworking 2787 01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:14,719 people who had um who were living in 2788 01:57:14,719 --> 01:57:17,280 affordable units and they had no reason 2789 01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,360 to believe that they wouldn't be able to 2790 01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:20,880 continue to stay there as long as they 2791 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,880 remained income eligible. Which is why 2792 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,639 when HOCC came in, one of the first 2793 01:57:24,639 --> 01:57:26,159 things they did in addition to trying to 2794 01:57:26,159 --> 01:57:27,920 renew leases was to income qualify 2795 01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,159 everybody so that they could they might 2796 01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:33,199 be eligible to um for grants that 2797 01:57:33,199 --> 01:57:35,679 require income eligibility. These are 2798 01:57:35,679 --> 01:57:39,040 hardworking Everston residents. Um 2799 01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:40,639 probably some of the hardest working. 2800 01:57:40,639 --> 01:57:42,159 The issue as we all know is that 2801 01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:44,639 salaries are not keeping up with cost of 2802 01:57:44,639 --> 01:57:46,960 living which is why affordable housing 2803 01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,639 units like these exist. Not because 2804 01:57:48,639 --> 01:57:50,960 people aren't working hard enough. Um, 2805 01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,639 now if we want to I would not support 2806 01:57:52,639 --> 01:57:54,639 financial literacy requirements, we 2807 01:57:54,639 --> 01:57:57,840 should offer that anyway to anybody that 2808 01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,080 feels like they need it. Um, we should 2809 01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:04,000 offer that and I think people um, you 2810 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:05,840 know, if they feel like it would benefit 2811 01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,000 be a benefit to them, they would receive 2812 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:09,920 that information. For example, I 2813 01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,080 literally refinance my vehicle because 2814 01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:13,920 of information I got from First Bank 2815 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:15,920 Northern and Trust. I just randomly went 2816 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,199 to one of their meetings. They just 2817 01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:19,440 wanted me to go as a council member. I 2818 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,440 went also for myself cuz I was I had 2819 01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,840 just purchased a vehicle. And so I think 2820 01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:26,080 if you make the information relevant to 2821 01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,360 people, um they'll use it, you know, as 2822 01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:32,159 I did. And so um and so for that reason, 2823 01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:34,800 I wouldn't support mandating uh it, but 2824 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,080 I think it's something that should be 2825 01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,520 offered. Um, I I I just I don't want 2826 01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,719 this to get lost that that out of the 18 2827 01:58:42,719 --> 01:58:45,040 or so households that we started off 2828 01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:48,000 with, if they're not on this list, 2829 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,159 through their own a mix of their own 2830 01:58:50,159 --> 01:58:52,239 efforts, connections for the homeless, 2831 01:58:52,239 --> 01:58:54,560 our health and human service department, 2832 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,960 um, especially Maurice who's on the 2833 01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,520 line, and hopefully I'm not missing any 2834 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,679 everybody. They are in housing they can 2835 01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:03,360 afford. They are stably housed, and I 2836 01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:04,800 don't want that to get overlooked. There 2837 01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:07,040 was a comment earlier during a public 2838 01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:08,400 comment that suggested, "Oh, well, this 2839 01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:10,480 is we're not doing enough. We're not 2840 01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:12,000 getting them in stable housing. This is 2841 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:13,440 just kicking the can down the road." 2842 01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,520 What that individual 2843 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,040 may have intentionally ignored, but 2844 01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:18,719 ignored is the fact that everyone else 2845 01:59:18,719 --> 01:59:20,480 that is not on this list through the 2846 01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,560 efforts of all those organizations and 2847 01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,280 people involved are stably housed now. 2848 01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:27,760 Um, and so all we're trying to do with 2849 01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:30,159 and and I've I've went over how they're 2850 01:59:30,159 --> 01:59:31,360 stably housed. I won't go through 2851 01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,599 everybody, but it is a mix of Prim 2852 01:59:33,599 --> 01:59:35,599 Towers, Jacob Blake. They're paying 30%, 2853 01:59:35,599 --> 01:59:37,520 no more than 30% of their income there. 2854 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:40,320 Some are in HLGC units, um, where 2855 01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,480 they're paying a similar amount in rent, 2856 01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,239 um, others have been able to find 2857 01:59:44,239 --> 01:59:45,599 naturally occurring affordable housing 2858 01:59:45,599 --> 01:59:46,960 that they can afford, and so on and so 2859 01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,719 forth. I don't want that to get lost, 2860 01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:50,719 not by the media, not by this council, 2861 01:59:50,719 --> 01:59:52,159 everybody else. If they're not on this 2862 01:59:52,159 --> 01:59:54,320 list, they are now stably housed because 2863 01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:56,080 of the efforts of the city of Evston, 2864 01:59:56,080 --> 02:00:00,639 Connections for the Homeless, and and in other in efforts of their their 2865 02:00:00,639 --> 02:00:03,920 own will as well. I I I disagree with 2866 02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,520 how some of the tenants are 2867 02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:07,599 characterized in this. I'm not going to 2868 02:00:07,599 --> 02:00:10,639 air that out today, but that the one 2869 02:00:10,639 --> 02:00:11,760 person that's saying they didn't pay 2870 02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,760 their rent, it was it was one month from 2871 02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:15,440 what I understand, and Maurice can speak 2872 02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:16,960 to this if we really need him to. I'd 2873 02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,679 rather not, but he can. And there was an 2874 02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:21,119 issue with the landlord. the landlord is 2875 02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:22,320 trying to evict them. They're counters 2876 02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:23,920 suing because they feel like the the 2877 02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,400 landlord is evicting them because they 2878 02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:28,400 file property standards compl complaints 2879 02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,880 against them and the most of the rent 2880 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:32,320 that wasn't collected outside of that 2881 02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,719 one month is because anybody knows how 2882 02:00:34,719 --> 02:00:37,440 evictions work. Typically, the attorneys 2883 02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,920 um encourage uh landlords to stop 2884 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,520 accepting the rent if they're filing for 2885 02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,920 eviction. There's a lot of information 2886 02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,080 that's that's not in this memo. Again, I 2887 02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:47,440 don't think it's necessary to ear all 2888 02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:50,400 that out um at council. I'm happy to 2889 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:54,320 provide more detail um offline and and I 2890 02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:56,000 know Maurice can as well, but everybody 2891 02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,639 that's here is because we've looked at 2892 02:00:58,639 --> 02:01:00,560 their socials. We've we've we we 2893 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:02,159 understand what their household incomes 2894 02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:06,320 are. Um we um in order for them to even 2895 02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:08,080 get on this list, we made it clear that 2896 02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:10,000 by this time, you have to provide 2897 02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:11,760 information. People provided some 2898 02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:13,440 information to us now that they hadn't 2899 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:16,320 before. we we require cooperation in 2900 02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:18,880 order to even be considered um for 2901 02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:21,280 additional subsidies. So, everybody here 2902 02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:24,080 has shown cooperation. Everybody here 2903 02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:25,440 other than the one who's on social 2904 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,840 security is fully fully um employed 2905 02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:32,400 full-time. And um in terms of I I'll 2906 02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,159 close with never happening again. Th 2907 02:01:34,159 --> 02:01:37,119 this council had an opportunity to look 2908 02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:38,880 into this deeply. We've had many 2909 02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:41,679 discussions about it. Uh uh, Director 2910 02:01:41,679 --> 02:01:44,159 Flax has answered many questions and so 2911 02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:46,320 if if you were on this council last 2912 02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,159 term, I would have hoped you would have 2913 02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:50,880 gotten all your ans answered because 2914 02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:52,800 there was an opportunity to do that. For 2915 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:54,320 council member Rogers and those who are 2916 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:55,920 new, I understand cuz you know, you 2917 02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:57,679 weren't on that council and so hopefully 2918 02:01:57,679 --> 02:01:59,199 staff as will continue to make 2919 02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:00,880 themselves available to you and those 2920 02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:02,159 who were on it. But I just want to make 2921 02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:04,400 clear, we looked into this so much so 2922 02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:05,760 that I understand that there was I don't 2923 02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:07,280 remember exactly the policy change, but 2924 02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,199 there was a policy change that came from 2925 02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:13,520 this. Um there was um I also mentioned 2926 02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,040 and I talked to Councilman Rogers about 2927 02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,119 this because I felt like this was unique 2928 02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:20,000 in that if it was not a oneway in one 2929 02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:21,920 way out buildings, if they had a back 2930 02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,560 stairwell, a option may have been to 2931 02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,119 shut down the the the front and allow 2932 02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:29,760 traffic to go through the back. 2933 02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:31,840 That's that's only an issue with these 2934 02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:33,520 California style walkups. One way in, 2935 02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:35,760 one way out. And so this is a very 2936 02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:37,760 unique situation that I don't think will 2937 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:40,159 likely happen again outside of the 2938 02:02:40,159 --> 02:02:41,760 California walk up style buildings, 2939 02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,840 which is why when we were having this 2940 02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:45,360 conversation, I asked staff if they 2941 02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:49,920 could um u um if they could um inspect 2942 02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,280 all the all the California style walkups 2943 02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:54,960 in Evston. They did and determined at 2944 02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:56,800 that time that they were all in in good 2945 02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,960 condition. So, and I can go on and on 2946 02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:00,960 about things that we talked about when 2947 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:02,800 we looked into this. So, again, I just I 2948 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,159 want this council to understand, the 2949 02:03:04,159 --> 02:03:05,760 public to understand, we did look deeply 2950 02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,159 into this. Uh, I think Councilman Rogers 2951 02:03:08,159 --> 02:03:09,520 obviously is new to the council and 2952 02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:10,960 wants to explore this in his own way, 2953 02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:12,880 which he should, but I just want to be 2954 02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:14,560 clear. There was a lot that came out of 2955 02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,440 this discussion. Um, I'll hold that for 2956 02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:20,000 now. Um, oh, and actually last thing is, 2957 02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:22,480 um, what I've said is is that because 2958 02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:25,599 we've there's been such success in 2959 02:03:25,599 --> 02:03:29,360 finding stable housing for a for most of 2960 02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,360 the households that we started with, 2961 02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:33,920 it's reasonable to believe that if given 2962 02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,159 another year, especially with the 90s 2963 02:03:36,159 --> 02:03:37,599 something affordable units coming 2964 02:03:37,599 --> 02:03:40,400 online, right, we what was done before 2965 02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:42,320 was done without really any new 2966 02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:44,159 affordable units, the inclusionary 2967 02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:46,320 housing program can't help them because 2968 02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:47,920 it really only supports towards 2969 02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:51,199 households that are about 60 to 80% AMI. 2970 02:03:51,199 --> 02:03:52,639 And so we did this without the 2971 02:03:52,639 --> 02:03:54,639 inclusionary housing program being able 2972 02:03:54,639 --> 02:03:56,560 to support these residents without any 2973 02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:59,040 new affordable units. And so it's reason 2974 02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:01,360 to believe with 90 something new units 2975 02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,840 available plus continuing the efforts 2976 02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,239 that we've uh that connections and staff 2977 02:04:06,239 --> 02:04:08,400 has done that at the end of this to 2978 02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:09,520 council member Harris's question, where 2979 02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:11,520 do we go from here? We're con, not only 2980 02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,360 have we been successful, we're confident 2981 02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:15,920 given that time, given the units um that 2982 02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,560 we'll come back in a year and say um 2983 02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:21,440 happily that everybody has is in units 2984 02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,360 that they can afford. That's the goal 2985 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,199 and I think we're realistically on 2986 02:04:25,199 --> 02:04:28,080 track. Um Council Member Kelly, 2987 02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:30,960 >> thank you. Um, so and we don't have to 2988 02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:32,639 uh interrogate this this evening, but I 2989 02:04:32,639 --> 02:04:33,920 did have questions from last term 2990 02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:37,119 regarding inspections and proper notice 2991 02:04:37,119 --> 02:04:39,360 in terms of urgent repairs that were 2992 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,760 urgently needed and the time frame given 2993 02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,320 before residents received a letter to 2994 02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:46,400 vacate immediately their homes. So, I 2995 02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:47,679 did still have some questions remaining 2996 02:04:47,679 --> 02:04:49,920 and but I am glad um to move forward 2997 02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,880 this evening to help um to help these 2998 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:54,480 residents. But I just want to say like 2999 02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:55,920 I'm glad they're stably housed, but it's 3000 02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:57,440 not the same. Many of these residents 3001 02:04:57,440 --> 02:05:00,320 had lived there for over 20 years and 3002 02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:01,520 that was their home and their 3003 02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,280 neighborhood. So, it's a big difference 3004 02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:05,280 um to remain in your home. And I know 3005 02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:07,280 there were several estimates of the 3006 02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,000 repairs to the stairs, which was the 3007 02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,000 urgently needed item um that came in 3008 02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,880 around 1.2 million, I believe. And so I 3009 02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,320 guess, you know, those are all questions 3010 02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:17,679 that I think I think every time there's 3011 02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:19,920 a a tragic incident like this or where 3012 02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,560 it's such upheaval, we want to say it's 3013 02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:24,320 unique. Um, and maybe it is, but 3014 02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:25,760 nevertheless, there are elements in 3015 02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:29,679 there that I think we should um look at a separate time to really make sure 3016 02:05:29,679 --> 02:05:32,239 that um 3017 02:05:32,239 --> 02:05:35,679 whatever we could improve um from how 3018 02:05:35,679 --> 02:05:36,719 that happened, what could have been 3019 02:05:36,719 --> 02:05:40,080 improved is is acknowledged. So thank 3020 02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:43,280 you. Um, 3021 02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:44,400 there was something you said I wanted to 3022 02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:45,679 comment on. I can't remember, which 3023 02:05:45,679 --> 02:05:47,119 probably means I need to leave it alone. 3024 02:05:47,119 --> 02:05:48,560 Um, [laughter] 3025 02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,520 uh, anybody else. 3026 02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:56,070 >> All right, that's roll call. 3027 02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:57,599 » Council member Harakaris. 3028 02:05:57,599 --> 02:05:58,480 >> Hi. 3029 02:05:58,480 --> 02:05:59,520 >> Council member Kelly. 3030 02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:00,480 >> Hi. 3031 02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:01,920 >> Council member Harris. Hi. 3032 02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:03,199 >> Council member Isles. Hi. 3033 02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:04,800 >> Council member Nusma. Hi. 3034 02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:06,480 >> Council member Sufffordan. Hi. Council 3035 02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:07,520 member Davis. Hi. 3036 02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:09,280 >> Council member Rogers. Hi. Council 3037 02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:10,239 member Burns. 3038 02:06:10,239 --> 02:06:13,199 >> Hi. 3039 02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:16,400 >> All right. Uh, 3040 02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:18,560 you start off with A2. If someone could 3041 02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:20,880 make a motion for A2, please. 3042 02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:22,960 >> Mr. Chair, if I could actually make a 3043 02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:24,800 recommendation. I think we have two 3044 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:26,960 people who are kind of waiting. Um, I 3045 02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:28,080 know one of them is waiting for 3046 02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,079 something I pulled off the agenda. Yes. 3047 02:06:30,079 --> 02:06:31,840 I don't know if the other woman is 3048 02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:34,320 waiting for a particular item or not, 3049 02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:36,122 but if so, I would ask that we 3050 02:06:36,122 --> 02:06:37,599 [laughter] 3051 02:06:37,599 --> 02:06:39,840 she just wants to hear us. Um, 3052 02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:41,360 >> she actually has a wonderful newsletter 3053 02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:43,280 that I subscribe to, so she might be 3054 02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:45,599 here trying to get the news uh first 3055 02:06:45,599 --> 02:06:46,000 maybe. 3056 02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,159 >> Um, I I would ask that we rearrange the 3057 02:06:48,159 --> 02:06:51,280 agenda and pull um item P1 forward so 3058 02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:52,560 that the gentleman who's waiting for 3059 02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:54,000 that particular item. 3060 02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:55,760 >> Yeah, with no objections, Councilman 3061 02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:58,880 Rogers, if you want to move item P1. Um, 3062 02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:00,880 I would uh actually ask someone else to 3063 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:02,320 do it since I will 3064 02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:06,079 >> I'll move item P1 uh 3065 02:07:06,079 --> 02:07:08,159 which is landmarking of the property at 3066 02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:11,840 2700 Herd Willard Elementary School. 3067 02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:12,239 >> All right. 3068 02:07:12,239 --> 02:07:14,400 >> It's been moved by Council Member S and 3069 02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:16,800 seconded by Council Member Harris, uh, 3070 02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:17,920 Council Member Rogers. 3071 02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:19,920 >> Thank you. I just want again want to 3072 02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:22,800 reiterate um this the landmarking of a 3073 02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:24,560 school does not prevent the school from 3074 02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:26,320 being able to do anything while it 3075 02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:28,400 operates as a school. it actually 3076 02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,960 imposes the uh changes upon the next 3077 02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:34,639 property owner. Um I have a question. Is 3078 02:07:34,639 --> 02:07:41,109 the land being landmarked as well 3079 02:07:41,119 --> 02:07:43,520 or is it just the land the the lots that 3080 02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:46,480 have the building on it? 3081 02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:48,239 It's primarily the lot that has the 3082 02:07:48,239 --> 02:07:50,560 building on it. We've separated out the 3083 02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:52,320 parcels to the north which are not built 3084 02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:55,040 on. I've got Kate Sterling online if you 3085 02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:56,960 want any more specifics about that. 3086 02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:58,480 >> All right. No, that that's fine. I I 3087 02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:00,000 couldn't remember because I'd heard both 3088 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:01,679 ways and and I wasn't sure where it 3089 02:08:01,679 --> 02:08:05,119 finally netted out. Um I do understand 3090 02:08:05,119 --> 02:08:07,440 how adaptive reuse can work in many of 3091 02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:10,079 these situations. Um but I also know 3092 02:08:10,079 --> 02:08:11,840 that that does require going through the 3093 02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:15,760 preservation commission um which can be 3094 02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:18,639 um sometimes fraught for a property 3095 02:08:18,639 --> 02:08:23,199 owner. Um and so with that reason I uh I 3096 02:08:23,199 --> 02:08:25,599 cannot support this. Um, I think what 3097 02:08:25,599 --> 02:08:27,920 ends up happening is we are going to 3098 02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:30,079 landmark all of except for about three 3099 02:08:30,079 --> 02:08:32,239 schools. And when it comes time to 3100 02:08:32,239 --> 02:08:34,880 closing schools, the district 65 is 3101 02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:37,360 going to be faced with the challenge of 3102 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:38,719 closing the schools that are not 3103 02:08:38,719 --> 02:08:40,800 landmarked versus closing the ones that 3104 02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:43,199 are. And if they're looking for top 3105 02:08:43,199 --> 02:08:46,159 dollar, um, obviously an unlandmarked 3106 02:08:46,159 --> 02:08:49,360 property is um, in my opinion probably a 3107 02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:52,320 more attractive um, site for them. So, I 3108 02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:56,790 will not be able to support this. 3109 02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,440 » Uh, council member uh Davis, 3110 02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:02,320 >> I want to confirm. Has D65 3111 02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:04,079 given any communication or direction as 3112 02:09:04,079 --> 02:09:05,679 to what they would prefer for this 3113 02:09:05,679 --> 02:09:06,800 building? 3114 02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:08,480 >> I'm going to let Kate address that. They 3115 02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,760 have been involved. 3116 02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:13,840 >> Hi, council members. Kate Sterling, 3117 02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:15,679 preservation planner with the city. Uh, 3118 02:09:15,679 --> 02:09:17,920 the school district has been involved 3119 02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:21,040 from the start. um they have recommended 3120 02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:23,840 that the property be designated a 3121 02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:26,800 landmark that was with some um mutual 3122 02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,719 agreements that were made in terms of 3123 02:09:28,719 --> 02:09:31,280 the specific um parcels to council 3124 02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:38,069 member Rogers question. 3125 02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:40,079 » I don't understand anything that D65 3126 02:09:40,079 --> 02:09:41,679 does. So like if that's [laughter] if 3127 02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:43,040 that's what they've said they want to 3128 02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:44,320 do, then I'm going to go ahead and 3129 02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:46,719 support. It is more so their 3130 02:09:46,719 --> 02:09:48,719 jurisdiction than ours. and I'm in 3131 02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:50,400 support of, you know, intergovernmental 3132 02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:56,790 cooperation. But, 3133 02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:59,280 » uh, council member Hottis, 3134 02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:00,960 >> I just want to thank community members 3135 02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,520 for their work there did they did, um, 3136 02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:05,599 uncovering some of the history of, um, 3137 02:10:05,599 --> 02:10:08,320 black displacement, um, that led to the 3138 02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:10,800 forming of the school. Um, I'm going to 3139 02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,920 be voting yes tonight because um based 3140 02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:17,280 on our um current rules and standards 3141 02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,840 for um historic preservation, it does 3142 02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:23,599 meet all the standards. Um, but I would 3143 02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:26,079 like um us to think um in the future of 3144 02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:29,520 how we can um maybe take steps to um 3145 02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:31,920 formalize our recognition of 3146 02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,560 displacement and how that fits into our 3147 02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:37,920 um history for our neighborhood. So, 3148 02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:40,320 Anyone 3149 02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:43,669 else, 3150 02:10:43,679 --> 02:10:45,280 Council Member Harris? 3151 02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:48,560 >> I think um I think Shorefront had a 3152 02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,320 little bit to do with that as well and 3153 02:10:50,320 --> 02:10:52,800 covering some of that information. So, 3154 02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,840 thank you. 3155 02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:57,360 >> Uh Council Member Kelly. 3156 02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:59,760 >> Yeah, I think Sharon for that work and 3157 02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:02,239 um our librarians who worked on that as 3158 02:11:02,239 --> 02:11:05,199 well. So, will there be like a um part 3159 02:11:05,199 --> 02:11:06,400 of this will include a public 3160 02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,639 acknowledgement of the history? Okay. 3161 02:11:08,639 --> 02:11:10,480 Wonderful. Wonderful. Thank you all. 3162 02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:14,310 Okay. 3163 02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:15,360 » All right. I think we're ready for the 3164 02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,709 roll call. 3165 02:11:18,719 --> 02:11:20,079 » Council member Herakaris. 3166 02:11:20,079 --> 02:11:20,639 >> Hi. 3167 02:11:20,639 --> 02:11:21,760 >> Council member Kelly. 3168 02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:22,159 >> Hi. 3169 02:11:22,159 --> 02:11:23,119 >> Council member Harris. 3170 02:11:23,119 --> 02:11:23,440 >> Hi. 3171 02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:24,400 >> Council member Isles. 3172 02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:24,880 >> Hi. 3173 02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,000 >> Council member Nusma. 3174 02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:26,400 >> Hi. 3175 02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:27,440 >> Council member Sephan. 3176 02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:27,760 >> Hi. 3177 02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:29,199 >> Council member Davis. 3178 02:11:29,199 --> 02:11:29,520 >> Hi. 3179 02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:30,560 >> Council member Rogers. 3180 02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:31,040 >> No. 3181 02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:35,750 >> Council member Burns. All right. 3182 02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:39,510 Um, 3183 02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:42,880 next up we we have uh A6. If someone can 3184 02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:43,840 make a motion 3185 02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:44,639 >> uh A2 3186 02:11:44,639 --> 02:11:47,920 >> or A Oh, sorry. That was P1. Um, are we 3187 02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:50,480 good with the order 3188 02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:52,079 moving forward? We're good. Okay. Yes. 3189 02:11:52,079 --> 02:11:54,239 So, we'll we'll uh if someone can move 3190 02:11:54,239 --> 02:11:56,719 A2, please. So I move approval of 3191 02:11:56,719 --> 02:12:00,159 resolution 85R26 approval of Beimo 3192 02:12:00,159 --> 02:12:03,119 Harris M Amazon credit card activity. 3193 02:12:03,119 --> 02:12:04,400 >> Second. 3194 02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:06,079 >> It's been properly moved and seconded. 3195 02:12:06,079 --> 02:12:08,000 Any 3196 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,560 uh comments? Seeing none. All those in 3197 02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:11,440 favor say I. 3198 02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:14,000 >> No. Roll call. Roll call. 3199 02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:15,360 >> Oh, we got one to abstain. I forgot 3200 02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:18,000 about this. Um roll call, please. 3201 02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:19,679 >> Council member Heracaris. 3202 02:12:19,679 --> 02:12:20,079 >> I. 3203 02:12:20,079 --> 02:12:22,480 >> Council member R Kelly. 3204 02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:23,040 >> Hi. 3205 02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:24,000 >> Council member Harris. 3206 02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:25,440 >> Hi. Council member Isles. Hi. 3207 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:26,400 >> Council member Nisma. 3208 02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:26,719 >> Hi. 3209 02:12:26,719 --> 02:12:27,679 >> Council member Suffered. 3210 02:12:27,679 --> 02:12:28,159 >> I'm stand. 3211 02:12:28,159 --> 02:12:29,119 >> Council member Davis. 3212 02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:29,440 >> Hi. 3213 02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:30,400 >> Council member Rogers. 3214 02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:30,880 >> Hi. 3215 02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:32,079 >> Council member Burns. 3216 02:12:32,079 --> 02:12:34,000 >> Hi. 3217 02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:38,550 >> All right. A2 is approved. A6. 3218 02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:42,239 » Uh Mr. Mayor Prom. My move item A6, 3219 02:12:42,239 --> 02:12:45,280 resolution 16, R26, authorizing the city 3220 02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:47,199 manager to execute an agreement with 3221 02:12:47,199 --> 02:12:50,320 Ample Group International for the Fleet 3222 02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:52,800 Jordanian exterior renovation project 3223 02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:54,079 26-22. 3224 02:12:54,079 --> 02:12:55,840 >> Properly moved by council member Nusma 3225 02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:57,520 and seconded by 3226 02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:00,320 >> second council member Harris, council 3227 02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:01,199 member Kelly. 3228 02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:02,960 >> Thank you. I just pulled this to we had 3229 02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:04,719 requested verification of compliance 3230 02:13:04,719 --> 02:13:06,960 given some concerns with the RBO. 3231 02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:08,480 >> Thank you, Council Member Kelly. So, I 3232 02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:10,400 did speak with uh Tammy Nunes, the 3233 02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,239 purchasing manager. She reached out to 3234 02:13:12,239 --> 02:13:16,800 the Amool um owner. The the owner was in 3235 02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,560 the car. He said he would provide all 3236 02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:20,079 the documentation in the morning, 3237 02:13:20,079 --> 02:13:22,000 including all the employees union cards 3238 02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,000 with the proper apprenticeship program. 3239 02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:26,400 >> Okay. Thank you. 3240 02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:28,000 >> As soon as I receive those, I will send 3241 02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:29,440 them to the council morning. 3242 02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:31,280 >> Council member Rogers. 3243 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,679 >> Thank you. Um, can we please start doing 3244 02:13:33,679 --> 02:13:35,840 this earlier because I think this is the 3245 02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:38,880 second one in a row that we have um 3246 02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:40,239 said, "Oh, we'll approve it and we're 3247 02:13:40,239 --> 02:13:41,520 going to wait on some information." So, 3248 02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:43,199 I don't know if there's a problem with 3249 02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:45,440 getting information. I don't know if we 3250 02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:48,159 can request that earlier so that when it 3251 02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:50,320 comes to us and I'm not faulting anyone 3252 02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:53,119 here in in the process. I'm just saying 3253 02:13:53,119 --> 02:13:54,560 um there seems to be a little hiccup 3254 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:56,719 when it comes to getting uh especially 3255 02:13:56,719 --> 02:13:59,520 apprenticeship seems to be the the 3256 02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:03,119 issue. um so that we we don't have to 3257 02:14:03,119 --> 02:14:04,239 approve things without all the 3258 02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:06,000 documentation. I don't doubt that we 3259 02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:08,480 will get the documentation, but again, 3260 02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,960 just trying to close up that little gap 3261 02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:12,400 um in the process. 3262 02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:13,760 >> Thank you, Council Member Rogers. 3263 02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:16,079 Understood. Um I think the issue here is 3264 02:14:16,079 --> 02:14:18,159 that oftent times when we're getting a 3265 02:14:18,159 --> 02:14:20,400 bid in, the contractor doesn't know 3266 02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:21,920 exactly all the subs they're going to 3267 02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:24,239 hire. Um so they may not have that 3268 02:14:24,239 --> 02:14:26,480 information at the time of bid. Um but 3269 02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:28,079 based on the project once they hire all 3270 02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:30,239 the subs the doc the documentation is 3271 02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:32,800 given to the city on a rolling basis. Um 3272 02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:34,560 but we will certainly work to have that 3273 02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:36,719 documentation ahead of time. We do have 3274 02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:38,400 the proper certifications that are 3275 02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:41,440 required under the ordinance. Um so we 3276 02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:42,960 do have that and that's what we check 3277 02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:45,360 off as we go through. 3278 02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:50,069 >> Council memberis 3279 02:14:50,079 --> 02:14:51,840 uh council member suffer. 3280 02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:54,000 >> Yeah. Um, I just want to confirm if the 3281 02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:55,679 documentation is not forthcoming, 3282 02:14:55,679 --> 02:14:56,960 regardless of an affirmative vote 3283 02:14:56,960 --> 02:14:59,840 tonight, the award will be invalidated. 3284 02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:01,199 >> Absolutely. Because it does not comply 3285 02:15:01,199 --> 02:15:02,560 with the RBO if we don't get the 3286 02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:03,119 documentation. 3287 02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:05,440 >> Thank you, Council Member Kelly. 3288 02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:06,960 >> Yeah. So, the subs are subject to the 3289 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:10,159 RBO also. So, I feel like we need to 3290 02:15:10,159 --> 02:15:11,599 >> and I know we do have we do have a 3291 02:15:11,599 --> 02:15:14,239 referral for procurement and hopefully 3292 02:15:14,239 --> 02:15:17,119 we'll get that um finalized. But until 3293 02:15:17,119 --> 02:15:18,400 then, if there's anything that can be 3294 02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:20,239 improved so that we are basically 3295 02:15:20,239 --> 02:15:22,719 vetting um figuring out the sub piece 3296 02:15:22,719 --> 02:15:23,840 also. 3297 02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:25,520 >> Yeah. And as the contractor goes, if 3298 02:15:25,520 --> 02:15:27,440 they don't hire compliant subs, they 3299 02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:29,119 have to find different subs. So that's 3300 02:15:29,119 --> 02:15:32,709 what it is. 3301 02:15:32,719 --> 02:15:35,199 » All right. 3302 02:15:35,199 --> 02:15:37,199 Um 3303 02:15:37,199 --> 02:15:39,440 we don't need a roll call for this. All 3304 02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:40,800 those in favor? 3305 02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:45,920 >> I nays. Any abstensions? All right. Um, 3306 02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:48,320 a who? 3307 02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:49,920 If someone can make a motion for AA, 3308 02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:51,840 please. 3309 02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:56,320 >> I move for the resol resolution 62R26, 3310 02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:58,400 approval of a single source contract 3311 02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:01,280 with Alur 3312 02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:03,920 Incorporated for the rental of a 200 3313 02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:07,760 kilowatt standby generator for an 11th 3314 02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:09,040 month term. It's 3315 02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:10,560 >> been properly moved by council member 3316 02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:12,400 Harris, seconded by council member 3317 02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:15,520 Nusma. Would anybody like to speak to 3318 02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:16,960 this? Council member Kelly, 3319 02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:19,280 >> I just had a question maybe um which I 3320 02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:22,239 meant to ask to APW about the be the 3321 02:16:22,239 --> 02:16:25,440 best um the I guess it's battery energy 3322 02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:28,960 services systems. Um if there's ever if 3323 02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:30,719 we'd ever do like a hybrid rental so 3324 02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:33,760 we'd have you know partial green um 3325 02:16:33,760 --> 02:16:37,920 backup is that with the best system BSS 3326 02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:39,760 is that I know we're waiting to purchase 3327 02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:42,479 2,000 watt generators. Correct. So, we 3328 02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:43,920 need these temporary ones during 3329 02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:46,240 construction. 3330 02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:48,960 >> Uh, Mayor Pro Tim Burns, members of the 3331 02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:50,319 city council, Daryl King, water 3332 02:16:50,319 --> 02:16:54,479 production bureau chief. Um, so yes, 3333 02:16:54,479 --> 02:16:56,240 there there's currently an electrical 3334 02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:59,040 upgrade project. Our current generators 3335 02:16:59,040 --> 02:17:02,399 have been demoed and the contractor 3336 02:17:02,399 --> 02:17:06,319 brought in a 750 to replace them. Right. 3337 02:17:06,319 --> 02:17:09,359 This generator will serve a couple 3338 02:17:09,359 --> 02:17:11,760 things in, you know, to provide power to 3339 02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:13,519 the filtration plant if something was to 3340 02:17:13,519 --> 02:17:16,160 happen to the power, but also if the 3341 02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:19,120 contractor 750 didn't work, we would be 3342 02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:21,200 able to use this generator to back feed 3343 02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:24,719 the 480 system for critical equipment. 3344 02:17:24,719 --> 02:17:28,639 Now, in terms of uh our current hookup 3345 02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:32,719 is natural gas and and well, actually 3346 02:17:32,719 --> 02:17:36,719 this temporary generator um is is 3347 02:17:36,719 --> 02:17:40,399 diesel. Uh the generator [clears throat] 3348 02:17:40,399 --> 02:17:42,719 that will be 3349 02:17:42,719 --> 02:17:45,439 that was recently approved that will 3350 02:17:45,439 --> 02:17:49,439 replace this one is natural gas. Uh 3351 02:17:49,439 --> 02:17:55,359 that's the hookup that we have uh at at the the water plant. Now, in terms of 3352 02:17:55,359 --> 02:17:58,160 uh renewables and different things like 3353 02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:01,359 that, there there may be options or 3354 02:18:01,359 --> 02:18:04,160 something for that, but that's not what 3355 02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:08,719 we're recommending in terms of uh 3356 02:18:08,719 --> 02:18:11,200 reliable redundancy 3357 02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:14,399 >> uh for backup power uh with with this 3358 02:18:14,399 --> 02:18:16,000 type of application. 3359 02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:17,679 >> Okay. I just someone brought to my 3360 02:18:17,679 --> 02:18:20,160 attention that you can get these BSS the 3361 02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:24,479 battery um energy and do like a hybrid 3362 02:18:24,479 --> 02:18:26,399 even when you rent you can do a hybrid 3363 02:18:26,399 --> 02:18:28,399 but when we purchase if we had one of 3364 02:18:28,399 --> 02:18:29,840 those that you can actually save cost 3365 02:18:29,840 --> 02:18:32,559 during peak hours by actually using that 3366 02:18:32,559 --> 02:18:34,399 one instead you can actually save this 3367 02:18:34,399 --> 02:18:37,920 save money if you in and to actually use 3368 02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:41,120 the backup best system 3369 02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:42,719 not when you don't even need backup but 3370 02:18:42,719 --> 02:18:45,599 to use it instead of the peak hours. So 3371 02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:47,040 just putting that out there 3372 02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,599 >> there. Yes, there are battery systems 3373 02:18:49,599 --> 02:18:53,679 and and so forth and um that that's not 3374 02:18:53,679 --> 02:18:55,840 part of this. We we have looked into 3375 02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:58,800 that and you know maybe in the future 3376 02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:02,240 that would be another redundant uh 3377 02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:04,639 source that we could use at some point 3378 02:19:04,639 --> 02:19:06,880 but that's not where we are now but we 3379 02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:09,200 have looked into that and thank you for 3380 02:19:09,200 --> 02:19:12,800 that that information. Thank you, 3381 02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:14,800 >> Council Member Nusma. 3382 02:19:14,800 --> 02:19:16,399 >> I'll second what Daryl said. Like, 3383 02:19:16,399 --> 02:19:17,679 that's a great idea. Thank you for 3384 02:19:17,679 --> 02:19:19,120 bringing that up. Makes a lot of sense 3385 02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:21,519 to consider moving forward. The purchase 3386 02:19:21,519 --> 02:19:22,960 in front of us tonight is for a 3387 02:19:22,960 --> 02:19:25,840 short-term backup generator uh just to 3388 02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:27,599 be there just in case. Hopefully, we 3389 02:19:27,599 --> 02:19:30,000 never have to turn it on. So, yeah, the 3390 02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,160 battery thing is really more long-term 3391 02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:34,639 and there's KMED money available to for 3392 02:19:34,639 --> 02:19:36,160 that kind of thing. So, let's move 3393 02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:38,800 moving forward. Let's consider that. uh 3394 02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:40,399 doesn't mean doesn't have to be part of 3395 02:19:40,399 --> 02:19:42,240 this uh purchase tonight or this 3396 02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:43,120 approval tonight. 3397 02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:45,760 >> Yep. 3398 02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:47,120 >> All right. All those in favor of 3399 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:51,680 approving A8 resolution 62R26 say I. 3400 02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:52,080 >> I. 3401 02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:55,120 >> Any nays? Any abstensions? All right. On 3402 02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:56,880 to A12. 3403 02:19:56,880 --> 02:20:00,800 If someone could make a motion, please. 3404 02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:02,960 >> Uh Mr. Chair, I move item A12, 3405 02:20:02,960 --> 02:20:05,680 resolution 66,R26, approval of an 3406 02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:07,439 agreement with Joel Kennedy Construction 3407 02:20:07,439 --> 02:20:10,399 Corporation for the 2026 annual lead 3408 02:20:10,399 --> 02:20:13,680 service line replacement uh project, 3409 02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:17,830 which is bid 2618. 3410 02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:19,120 » It's been properly moved by council 3411 02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:21,520 member NMA and seconded by council 3412 02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:23,760 member Harris. Council member Roger, 3413 02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:25,280 >> thank you. Um, I had pulled this off 3414 02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:27,040 just because there is a cost to overrun 3415 02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:28,800 on this and I understand that and we'll 3416 02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:30,240 be discussing that in finance and 3417 02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:32,160 budget, but I wanted to make everyone 3418 02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:35,120 aware of that. Um, in case they didn't 3419 02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:36,560 get through all the details of the 3420 02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:40,080 packet. Um, so we have a uh the the bid 3421 02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:42,399 that we're accepting is and I'm just 3422 02:20:42,399 --> 02:20:44,479 going to look to staff to nod yes to 3423 02:20:44,479 --> 02:20:46,800 answer my question. Um, exceeds it by 3424 02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:50,880 about a little over 1.5 million. 3425 02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:52,800 Yes, they're nodding their heads yes. So 3426 02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:54,160 that is an acknowledgement that it 3427 02:20:54,160 --> 02:20:57,600 exceeds it by about 1.5 million. Um so 3428 02:20:57,600 --> 02:20:59,040 finance and budget we will have to 3429 02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:01,520 figure out what we're doing um 3430 02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:04,000 financially in order to get that 3431 02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:07,680 additional money or potentially cut um 3432 02:21:07,680 --> 02:21:10,160 something. Um and they're kind of 3433 02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:12,720 rolling their eyes at me on that one. Um 3434 02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:14,640 so I don't know if they want to respond 3435 02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:18,560 to that. Um 3436 02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:23,439 >> and I hate to make Miss Bigs come up. Um 3437 02:21:23,439 --> 02:21:25,439 for a simple question. 3438 02:21:25,439 --> 02:21:27,359 >> Hello everyone. My name is Laura BGS. 3439 02:21:27,359 --> 02:21:30,240 I'm the city engineer. So yes, [snorts] 3440 02:21:30,240 --> 02:21:32,960 we are also looking at that and we are 3441 02:21:32,960 --> 02:21:34,640 fortunately able to miticate some of the 3442 02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:36,720 million and a half dollars with 3443 02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:38,880 additional loans that we can take out 3444 02:21:38,880 --> 02:21:40,800 and that ultimately results in 3445 02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:42,960 additional principal forgiveness which 3446 02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:45,680 helps quite a lot. 3447 02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:48,080 We can look at how we're doing it, but 3448 02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:50,880 we are required to replace all the lead 3449 02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:52,479 service lines within a specific amount 3450 02:21:52,479 --> 02:21:55,520 of time. So, there's a limited amount of 3451 02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:57,680 value engineering to some extent. We 3452 02:21:57,680 --> 02:22:00,240 just have to kind of keep going. 3453 02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:04,150 >> Okay. Thank you, 3454 02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:06,640 » Council Member Kelly. Um I have a 3455 02:22:06,640 --> 02:22:09,040 question regarding um and I don't know 3456 02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:11,040 if this is common but how we publicize 3457 02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:12,880 and since we have I know in this one 3458 02:22:12,880 --> 02:22:15,040 this is for Kennedy I think Kennedy 3459 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:18,000 contract and Boulder was the other 3460 02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:20,640 bidder u responded to the bid and then 3461 02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:22,399 in another the other second highest 3462 02:22:22,399 --> 02:22:24,240 contract that we have out tonight it was 3463 02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:26,000 flipped it was you know Boulder and then 3464 02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:27,520 Kennedy that we're just getting two 3465 02:22:27,520 --> 02:22:29,680 responses I see we advertise in Demand 3466 02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:32,880 Star and through Pioneer Press and I'm 3467 02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:34,720 just wondering if that standard such 3468 02:22:34,720 --> 02:22:37,359 like limited. I mean, could could we go 3469 02:22:37,359 --> 02:22:38,240 broader? And 3470 02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:40,880 >> we we advertise this one uh the lead 3471 02:22:40,880 --> 02:22:42,880 service line one in the Chicago Tribune 3472 02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:46,319 because of the EPA requirements, 3473 02:22:46,319 --> 02:22:49,439 but we send out uh invitations to bid to 3474 02:22:49,439 --> 02:22:52,399 a variety of contractors. But our work 3475 02:22:52,399 --> 02:22:56,080 does have um a lot of very specific 3476 02:22:56,080 --> 02:22:59,920 requirements that um that we need to 3477 02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:02,000 follow. and Evston is a difficult place 3478 02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:05,280 to work just because of the limited um 3479 02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:08,080 places to stage and how you do not have 3480 02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:10,960 space to work in. So there's there's a 3481 02:23:10,960 --> 02:23:12,319 variety of things we have working 3482 02:23:12,319 --> 02:23:14,399 against us. These are two contractors 3483 02:23:14,399 --> 02:23:16,560 we've worked with number of times and so 3484 02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:18,640 they feel pretty comfortable meeting all 3485 02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:20,399 of our program requirements. 3486 02:23:20,399 --> 02:23:22,319 >> Okay. Yeah, it seems like it would be I 3487 02:23:22,319 --> 02:23:24,479 mean for that it's a large contract 13 3488 02:23:24,479 --> 02:23:26,880 million that you feels like we would be 3489 02:23:26,880 --> 02:23:30,720 getting more um more respondents. 3490 02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:32,399 >> And Daryl King, water production bureau 3491 02:23:32,399 --> 02:23:34,000 chief and and just some additional 3492 02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:37,439 context I'd like to add is starting next 3493 02:23:37,439 --> 02:23:39,040 year 3494 02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:40,800 everybody in Illinois is going to be 3495 02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:43,200 required to start replacing lead service 3496 02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:48,240 lines according to law. Um, the lead 3497 02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:50,000 service line replacement notification 3498 02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:53,760 act in Illinois currently allows 20 3499 02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:56,399 years to do that replacement, but the 3500 02:23:56,399 --> 02:23:58,640 lead and copper rule improvements have 3501 02:23:58,640 --> 02:24:01,520 been accepted by the Illinois Pollution 3502 02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:05,920 Control Board, which once that goes into 3503 02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:07,520 effect, 3504 02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:09,200 um, 3505 02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:12,160 November 2027, I believe, and it would 3506 02:24:12,160 --> 02:24:14,240 actually, 3507 02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:16,960 uh, activities ities would occur January 3508 02:24:16,960 --> 02:24:19,680 1 starting 2028. 3509 02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:21,680 That time frame across the state could 3510 02:24:21,680 --> 02:24:25,040 go to 10 years. Some uh utilities 3511 02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:28,479 depending upon how they score could get 3512 02:24:28,479 --> 02:24:30,720 a longer deferred 3513 02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:34,080 uh time to replace uh Evston could 3514 02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:37,280 possibly get 17 years instead of 10 3515 02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:41,600 years. Um, but now you're talking about 3516 02:24:41,600 --> 02:24:43,840 a bunch of work that's got to get done 3517 02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:46,080 in the state of Illinois all at one 3518 02:24:46,080 --> 02:24:49,920 time. So that could become an issue for 3519 02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:53,120 how many bids utilities, municipalities 3520 02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:58,630 are getting on these contracts. 3521 02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:00,560 » Council member Nusmo. 3522 02:25:00,560 --> 02:25:02,720 >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Daryl, as long as 3523 02:25:02,720 --> 02:25:04,800 you're here, there's a mailing that just 3524 02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:06,720 went out about lead service lines. Can 3525 02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:08,479 you tell us what that is in case we get 3526 02:25:08,479 --> 02:25:09,920 calls? 3527 02:25:09,920 --> 02:25:13,280 >> Yes. So, uh, annually, 3528 02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:17,520 uh, we're required to submit a service 3529 02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:21,520 materials inventory to IEPA telling them 3530 02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:24,640 how many lead services we have, how many 3531 02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:27,520 galvanized requiring replacements, and 3532 02:25:27,520 --> 02:25:32,399 so forth. So, we did that on April 14th 3533 02:25:32,399 --> 02:25:37,359 or so. um within 30 days following that, 3534 02:25:37,359 --> 02:25:40,800 we have to notify the community 3535 02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:43,280 uh where lead service lines are believed 3536 02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:46,080 to be galvanized requiring replacement 3537 02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:48,640 service lines are are believed to be. 3538 02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:54,000 So, we recently uh mailed out roughly 3539 02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:56,399 just under 10,000 3540 02:25:56,399 --> 02:25:58,160 um 3541 02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:01,840 uh uh lead service line notices, couple 3542 02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:04,560 hundred uh galvanized requiring 3543 02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:07,280 replacement notices. People have gotten 3544 02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:09,920 those notices. These notices don't 3545 02:26:09,920 --> 02:26:11,920 require any action. They're 3546 02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:14,080 forformational purposes only. But 3547 02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:16,000 they're notifying those locations. Hey, 3548 02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:18,080 we believe you have lead. Hey, we 3549 02:26:18,080 --> 02:26:19,840 believe you have galvanized requiring 3550 02:26:19,840 --> 02:26:23,840 replacement. Here's uh uh the risk of of 3551 02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:26,880 having lead service lines. These are the 3552 02:26:26,880 --> 02:26:33,920 programs the city currently owns. Um if you have currently provides if you 3553 02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:36,560 have questions, uh you know, there's 3554 02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:38,720 contact information and so forth. That's 3555 02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:41,359 a required mailing that we have to send 3556 02:26:41,359 --> 02:26:44,000 out every year. It happens around this 3557 02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:47,200 time every year and we're required to 3558 02:26:47,200 --> 02:26:51,280 send those out until they're all gone. 3559 02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:52,240 There is a 3560 02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:54,080 >> the lead service lines are all all 3561 02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:54,720 replaced. 3562 02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:57,280 >> All lead service lines, all galvanized 3563 02:26:57,280 --> 02:26:59,600 requiring replacement service lines, 3564 02:26:59,600 --> 02:27:02,080 those are those are galvanized service 3565 02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:05,600 lines that have been uh downstream of 3566 02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:09,120 lead service line. And so for, you know, 3567 02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:12,880 the next 20 years, 17 years, 10 years 3568 02:27:12,880 --> 02:27:15,439 until they're all gone, we have to keep 3569 02:27:15,439 --> 02:27:17,680 sending them out. And if we ever run 3570 02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:20,240 into situations where we're having 3571 02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:23,200 difficulties, let's say at the end of 17 3572 02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:25,359 years, and we we've had a hundred 3573 02:27:25,359 --> 02:27:27,439 locations that either we can't get in, 3574 02:27:27,439 --> 02:27:29,359 they've refused, 3575 02:27:29,359 --> 02:27:31,840 or or whatever the situation is, we got 3576 02:27:31,840 --> 02:27:33,359 to keep sending them out until they're 3577 02:27:33,359 --> 02:27:36,710 all gone. 3578 02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:37,920 Thank you. 3579 02:27:37,920 --> 02:27:43,830 >> All right, we'll roll call this one. 3580 02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:44,160 Council 3581 02:27:44,160 --> 02:27:45,040 >> member. 3582 02:27:45,040 --> 02:27:45,520 >> Hi. 3583 02:27:45,520 --> 02:27:46,640 >> Council member Kelly. 3584 02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:47,200 >> Hi. 3585 02:27:47,200 --> 02:27:48,240 >> Council member Harris. 3586 02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:48,479 >> Hi. 3587 02:27:48,479 --> 02:27:49,680 >> Council member Isles. Hi. 3588 02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:50,640 >> Council member Nusma. 3589 02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:50,880 >> Hi. 3590 02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:52,160 >> Council member Suffford. Hi. 3591 02:27:52,160 --> 02:27:53,760 >> Council member Davis. 3592 02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:54,160 >> Hi. 3593 02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:55,120 >> Council member Rogers. 3594 02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:55,439 >> Hi. 3595 02:27:55,439 --> 02:27:56,479 >> Council member Burns. 3596 02:27:56,479 --> 02:27:58,319 >> Hi. 3597 02:27:58,319 --> 02:28:03,200 >> All right. Next up we have 821. 3598 02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:05,760 Mr. Chair, I believe you are requesting 3599 02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:07,760 that we suspend the rules to take 3600 02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:10,000 immediate action on this tonight. 3601 02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:11,120 >> You want to make that motion? 3602 02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:13,040 >> So, yeah, I I will make the motion to 3603 02:28:13,040 --> 02:28:18,080 suspend uh the rules so that we can take 3604 02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:20,640 uh final action on this item tonight. 3605 02:28:20,640 --> 02:28:22,080 >> All right. Uh second 3606 02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:24,720 >> 21 has been properly 3607 02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:27,680 >> um well, it's 22. 3608 02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:29,920 >> This is we treat this like a motion is 3609 02:28:29,920 --> 02:28:31,359 on suspending of the rules and then I'll 3610 02:28:31,359 --> 02:28:33,280 make the next motion. Um, so that's that 3611 02:28:33,280 --> 02:28:34,640 amendment has been properly moved and 3612 02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:37,359 seconded by council member Rogers. Um, 3613 02:28:37,359 --> 02:28:38,000 >> roll call. 3614 02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:38,399 >> Yes. 3615 02:28:38,399 --> 02:28:40,560 >> Uh, council member Hakadis. 3616 02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:41,680 >> I council member Kelly. 3617 02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:41,920 >> Hi. 3618 02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:42,880 >> Council member Harris. 3619 02:28:42,880 --> 02:28:43,120 >> Hi. 3620 02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:44,319 >> Council member Isles. Hi. 3621 02:28:44,319 --> 02:28:45,200 >> Council member Nusma. 3622 02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:45,520 >> Hi. 3623 02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:46,479 >> Council member Son. 3624 02:28:46,479 --> 02:28:46,800 >> Hi. 3625 02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:48,000 >> Council member Davis. 3626 02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:48,399 >> Hi. 3627 02:28:48,399 --> 02:28:49,439 >> Council member Rogers. 3628 02:28:49,439 --> 02:28:49,760 >> Hi. 3629 02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:51,040 >> Council member Burns. 3630 02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:52,880 >> Hi. 3631 02:28:52,880 --> 02:28:55,359 >> All right. And on to the underlying. Um, 3632 02:28:55,359 --> 02:28:56,880 >> so the rules have been suspended. So, I 3633 02:28:56,880 --> 02:29:00,080 will now make the motion on item A21, 3634 02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:03,120 uh, which is ordinance 37026 authorizing 3635 02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,000 the sale of city-owned real property at 3636 02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:09,439 1811 to 1815 Church Street. And this is 3637 02:29:09,439 --> 02:29:11,200 for final action this evening. 3638 02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:11,920 >> Second. 3639 02:29:11,920 --> 02:29:13,280 >> All right. It's been properly moved by 3640 02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:15,359 Councilman Newsmith, seconded by Council 3641 02:29:15,359 --> 02:29:18,880 Member Harris. Any questions, comments? 3642 02:29:18,880 --> 02:29:23,439 Uh, seeing none, all those in favor? I 3643 02:29:23,439 --> 02:29:26,479 >> Any nays? Any abstensions? 3644 02:29:26,479 --> 02:29:29,920 All right, 821 is approved. Moving on to 3645 02:29:29,920 --> 02:29:32,720 SSC1. 3646 02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:36,399 >> I move for the resolution 75R26 3647 02:29:36,399 --> 02:29:38,640 use of CDBG 3648 02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:41,920 funds for FY2026 3649 02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:43,200 public service. 3650 02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:44,399 >> I'll second. 3651 02:29:44,399 --> 02:29:46,000 >> All right. It's been moved by council 3652 02:29:46,000 --> 02:29:47,439 member Harris, seconded by council 3653 02:29:47,439 --> 02:29:49,520 member Hakatis. 3654 02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:51,760 Council member Isles. I pulled this 3655 02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:54,319 because some of these funds go to my 3656 02:29:54,319 --> 02:29:56,080 employer interfaith action. So I need to 3657 02:29:56,080 --> 02:29:57,359 recuse myself. 3658 02:29:57,359 --> 02:29:59,920 >> All right. Seeing other comments, we'll 3659 02:29:59,920 --> 02:30:01,359 do roll call. 3660 02:30:01,359 --> 02:30:03,120 >> Council member Heracaris. 3661 02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:03,520 >> I. 3662 02:30:03,520 --> 02:30:05,439 >> Council member Kelly. 3663 02:30:05,439 --> 02:30:05,680 >> Hi. 3664 02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:06,720 >> Council member Harris. 3665 02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:07,439 >> I. 3666 02:30:07,439 --> 02:30:08,399 >> Council member Isles. 3667 02:30:08,399 --> 02:30:09,120 >> I abstain. 3668 02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:10,080 >> Council member Nisma. 3669 02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:10,399 >> Hi. 3670 02:30:10,399 --> 02:30:11,600 >> Council member Suffford. 3671 02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:12,479 >> Council member Davis. 3672 02:30:12,479 --> 02:30:12,800 >> Hi. 3673 02:30:12,800 --> 02:30:13,840 >> Council member Rogers. 3674 02:30:13,840 --> 02:30:14,160 >> Hi. 3675 02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:24,950 >> Council member Burns. All right, 3676 02:30:24,960 --> 02:30:28,080 » last we have call of the wards. I had an 3677 02:30:28,080 --> 02:30:29,520 order somewhere, but starting off with 3678 02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:31,520 council member Hedicottis. 3679 02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:34,080 >> Um, I will have to move my office hours 3680 02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:37,920 this week. I will be out of town. Um, so 3681 02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:39,760 I will be sending out a newsletter with 3682 02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:42,479 the new hours and um, we'll talk to 3683 02:30:42,479 --> 02:30:43,280 people soon. 3684 02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:45,040 >> Yep. 3685 02:30:45,040 --> 02:30:46,000 Uh, 3686 02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:46,640 >> no report. 3687 02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:48,880 >> Council member Kelly, Council Member 3688 02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:50,640 Harris, 3689 02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:52,399 >> Council Member Isles, 3690 02:30:52,399 --> 02:30:54,560 >> I have uh office hours a week from 3691 02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:57,920 Thursday on the 7th from 7:30 to 9:30 at 3692 02:30:57,920 --> 02:31:00,319 brothers K. 3693 02:31:00,319 --> 02:31:02,160 >> Uh, Council Member Nusma, 3694 02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:03,680 >> no report. 3695 02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:06,160 >> Uh, Council Member Suffford, 3696 02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:07,280 >> Council Member Davis, 3697 02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:09,439 >> no report. Council member Rogers. 3698 02:31:09,439 --> 02:31:12,399 >> Um yeah, just real quickly, um we had a 3699 02:31:12,399 --> 02:31:14,160 gathering of the Howard Street Business 3700 02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:16,160 Association and our colleagues from the 3701 02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:18,000 Chicago side, the Rogers Park Business 3702 02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:20,399 Alliance, um at Peckage Pig last week. 3703 02:31:20,399 --> 02:31:22,479 We had about 30 people show up. It was a 3704 02:31:22,479 --> 02:31:24,640 great event. Um the city manager came 3705 02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:28,080 down um and and met with the group. Um 3706 02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:29,600 it was just kind of a casual cocktail 3707 02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:31,520 hour and they plan on doing several of 3708 02:31:31,520 --> 02:31:33,920 these. So I will share information with 3709 02:31:33,920 --> 02:31:36,640 my colleagues as those come forward and 3710 02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:41,040 invite you to those as well. That's it. 3711 02:31:41,040 --> 02:31:43,280 >> All right. Um, and so I I need to make a 3712 02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:45,359 motion to 3713 02:31:45,359 --> 02:31:48,640 move the the conversation about the 3714 02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:50,479 emergency assistance expanding the 3715 02:31:50,479 --> 02:31:53,120 emergency assistance program 3716 02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:56,560 um to allow for property tax relief 3717 02:31:56,560 --> 02:31:59,200 funding to the June 8th meeting because 3718 02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:01,200 we have our health department uh members 3719 02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:02,560 of our health department will be out of 3720 02:32:02,560 --> 02:32:04,640 town and of course what it's important 3721 02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:06,240 that they're here to participate in that 3722 02:32:06,240 --> 02:32:08,800 discussion. 3723 02:32:08,800 --> 02:32:11,600 It was scheduled to be May 11th, but I I 3724 02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:15,040 talked to Director Ogbo and he asked if 3725 02:32:15,040 --> 02:32:16,880 we can move it to June 8th. And I asked 3726 02:32:16,880 --> 02:32:19,520 him if at that time he could have an 3727 02:32:19,520 --> 02:32:22,880 actual program for us to look at. And 3728 02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:24,720 just to be clear, it's not a new program 3729 02:32:24,720 --> 02:32:27,040 that he's just going to explain us how 3730 02:32:27,040 --> 02:32:28,880 he would how they would expand it to 3731 02:32:28,880 --> 02:32:30,479 include property tax relief. And he'll 3732 02:32:30,479 --> 02:32:32,479 have that ready by the ETH. Um so I 3733 02:32:32,479 --> 02:32:35,200 think I can make that motion. Second, 3734 02:32:35,200 --> 02:32:38,240 >> it's been um moved and seconded. All 3735 02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:40,640 those in favor or unless Okay. All those 3736 02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:41,600 in favor? 3737 02:32:41,600 --> 02:32:41,920 >> I 3738 02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:45,439 >> Any nays? Any abstensions? Um, only last 3739 02:32:45,439 --> 02:32:47,920 thing I I wanted to make a few more 3740 02:32:47,920 --> 02:32:51,120 comments on the assistance to the Wesley 3741 02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:54,479 tenants, but I forgot to to mention um 3742 02:32:54,479 --> 02:32:57,920 is in in your memos, you'll see that 3743 02:32:57,920 --> 02:33:00,640 there's a a bullet point that says if we 3744 02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:03,120 had if they hadn't received the subsidy, 3745 02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:04,720 how much of their income would be going 3746 02:33:04,720 --> 02:33:06,720 towards rent if they did not receive the 3747 02:33:06,720 --> 02:33:08,880 subsidy? And this is one of the um this 3748 02:33:08,880 --> 02:33:11,280 is really the primary reason why I asked 3749 02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:14,560 council to support this extension. And 3750 02:33:14,560 --> 02:33:18,240 so remember that 30% or more is housing 3751 02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:21,200 cost burden. 50% or more is severely 3752 02:33:21,200 --> 02:33:23,439 housing cost burden. And so one 3753 02:33:23,439 --> 02:33:25,920 household would be at 86% 3754 02:33:25,920 --> 02:33:28,479 uh without the subsidy. Another at 3755 02:33:28,479 --> 02:33:30,399 172.5% 3756 02:33:30,399 --> 02:33:31,680 that's the individual that's on social 3757 02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:34,640 security. Um, one would be on would be 3758 02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:36,479 36.7% 3759 02:33:36,479 --> 02:33:39,040 another 42.6% 3760 02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:40,560 61.4% 3761 02:33:40,560 --> 02:33:43,280 and 67.7%. 3762 02:33:43,280 --> 02:33:46,800 Um, I did also want to comment on there 3763 02:33:46,800 --> 02:33:49,040 was a suggestion earlier that we could 3764 02:33:49,040 --> 02:33:50,960 have allocated funding for the steps and 3765 02:33:50,960 --> 02:33:52,720 I've said this and I'll say it every 3766 02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:54,240 time I hear it. we would have been 3767 02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:55,920 giving millions of dollars to an 3768 02:33:55,920 --> 02:33:58,720 organization that had already shown that 3769 02:33:58,720 --> 02:34:00,560 they not only could not keep the 3770 02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:02,720 building safe by making sure that the 3771 02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:04,720 steps and balconies were repaired, but 3772 02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:07,520 as as director Flax mentioned, we also 3773 02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:09,600 had reports of other issues with the 3774 02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:13,760 building. So, we will be giving funds to a organization that has shown they 3775 02:34:13,760 --> 02:34:15,040 couldn't take care of the balconies and 3776 02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:17,120 steps, hadn't took taken care of other 3777 02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:18,640 issues. Unfortunately, they weren't 3778 02:34:18,640 --> 02:34:20,479 reporting a lot of those complaints to 3779 02:34:20,479 --> 02:34:21,840 the city, but we found that they were 3780 02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:24,720 reporting them directly to uh by to the 3781 02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:28,640 owner. Um, and it wasn't it was unlikely 3782 02:34:28,640 --> 02:34:33,120 that the that the um board was still 3783 02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:34,720 organized, that they were meeting on a 3784 02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:36,720 regular basis, that's who we would have 3785 02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:37,920 been giving money to. And I don't think 3786 02:34:37,920 --> 02:34:40,080 a majority of council up here would have 3787 02:34:40,080 --> 02:34:41,439 supported doing that. So, every time 3788 02:34:41,439 --> 02:34:42,640 people bring that up, that's what I'm 3789 02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:43,840 going to bring up. And if you want to 3790 02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:45,439 say, "Yep, that was still a good, you 3791 02:34:45,439 --> 02:34:46,960 know, we should have supported them," 3792 02:34:46,960 --> 02:34:48,479 then say that. But that's that's the 3793 02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:50,319 money we would that's the organization 3794 02:34:50,319 --> 02:34:52,240 we would have been given the money to. 3795 02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:54,080 What we decided to do instead is to 3796 02:34:54,080 --> 02:34:56,399 still support these households as we've 3797 02:34:56,399 --> 02:34:58,800 done today. Um, but to try to get them 3798 02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:01,840 to more stable quality housing. I also 3799 02:35:01,840 --> 02:35:03,680 think we need to be careful speaking for 3800 02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:05,439 people because there are some people 3801 02:35:05,439 --> 02:35:07,280 that actually prefer their new units to 3802 02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:08,720 the old ones. And I'm not saying that 3803 02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:10,479 they don't miss the community that they 3804 02:35:10,479 --> 02:35:12,080 had there, but let's be careful to speak 3805 02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:14,319 for people. Um I think they can speak 3806 02:35:14,319 --> 02:35:16,319 for themselves. Uh I know that they're 3807 02:35:16,319 --> 02:35:17,840 really looking forward, the six house 3808 02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:19,920 owners are looking forward to um to 3809 02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:21,760 these extensions and I appreciate that 3810 02:35:21,760 --> 02:35:24,080 support. Um that's all I have. Seeing no 3811 02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:26,560 matter additional matters before us, I 3812 02:35:26,560 --> 02:35:28,080 call the city council meeting adjourned. 3813 02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:31,319 Thank you everybody.