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All right, we'll call the meeting to
order. On behalf of the planning
commission, like to welcome our
residents and viewers to this regular
meeting of August 12th, 2026.
On tonight's agenda, we just have one
discussion item. Uh we'll get to that
after one housekeeping item, which is
the minutes from our July 14th, 2026
regular meeting. Are there any additions
or corrections to those minutes?
If not, is there a motion?
Motion.
>> Have a motion for approval. Is there a
» Have a motion for approval. Is there a
second?
>> Second.
» Second.
>> Motion and second. All in favor say I.
» Motion and second. All in favor say I.
I.
>> Minutes are approved. We'll start our
» Minutes are approved. We'll start our
discussion item. This is a concept plan
for the Sunrise North um addition. Tony,
you're going to take this?
>> I am. Let me get it pulled up here.
There we go.
Yes. Uh thank you, Mr. Chair, commission
members, uh we have a concept plan for
what is uh at least right now called
Sunrise North. Um Mr. Tim Giles
submitted the the concept.
Um the site is 3.48 acres. Um it's owned
by P MKR Real Estate. Um and it's
located directly north of the Sunrise
Ponds development on the east side of
town. um kind of at the juncture of
Cambodia Avenue and 210th uh Street
West.
Uh the concept plan shows a total of 32
town home units. Uh those would be four
pods of eight units. Uh shows a gross
density of 9.19 dwelling units per acre.
Uh it does include the extension of 210
Street West uh through the site. Uh, one
thing to note is that right ofway 4,
210th Street was originally dedicated
with the Sunrise Ponds Plat back in 2006
and it runs that right of way runs
parallel to the southern boundary of
this site. So, in between the original
development and this parcel, the road
itself was never constructed being that
it really didn't serve anything at that
time, but we wanted to at least have the
rightway preserved. Um with this uh
concept plan, it shows the realignment
of that road uh through the center part
of this parcel. Um that realignment
serves a couple purposes. Um it allows
for um some more flexibility and usable
space of the site. Um while also
providing a buffer um to the res single
family residents uh to the south as
well. um so that those houses don't have
double frontage on roads. Um the
realignment would require vacation of a
portion of the existing 210th Street
right ofway. Um and it should also be
noted that 210th Street would have to
connect into Cambodia Avenue and Cameron
Way um as well. So a portion of Cambodia
Avenue right now is gravel um basically
from the entrance of Sunrise Ponds
north. uh that would have to be uh
improved with Batuminous um if this were
to move forward.
Uh this just shows the concept plan. It
shows uh 210th Street going through the
center with town home units on either
side of the road
um with Cambodia again getting extended
north and then uh extending into uh
Cameron Way on the uh west side as well.
Zoning. The property is currently zoned
R2, which is our lowmedium density
residential. Um, due to the town homes,
uh, it should be reszoned to an R3,
which is our medium density residential.
Um, and also due to the, uh, density
being, uh, nine units an acre. Uh, the
R3 does allow for 12 to six dwelling
units per acre.
The comprehensive plan currently shows
this as a lowmedium density residential.
So it's in line with the current zoning.
Um has a development time frame of 2030
to 2040. And a lot of that just had to
do with the develop how the site is.
It's a very unique site. Um and it's a
challenging site to develop. Um the
property is located in the current Musa
municipal urban service area. So um that
does not have to be amended. Um but if
the com if this process or this project
were to move forward, there would need
to be amendments um to change the land
use designation to medium density
residential and also to change the
development time frame uh to 2020
instead of keeping it in the 2030 2040
time range.
Uh the action requested tonight is just
to discuss the concept plan. Um that's
all it is concept and provide feedback
to uh the property owners. Um Mr. Giles
is not present. Apparently he is uh
sick. Um but we do have the property
owner here as well as their engineer. So
>> all right. Thank you Tony. Uh Mr. Egan.
» all right. Thank you Tony. Uh Mr. Egan.
Uh Mr. Chris. I don't know why I didn't
meet your last name.
>> Chris Awig.
» Chris Awig.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
Do you have anything to add to Tony's
report or anything you'd like to state
to the commission? uh you know, Tony did
a pretty good job on it. Um what we have
is, you know, we're just trying to
utilize this uh odd triangular piece and
and uh working with staff. This is this
is what we came up with. Um and we're
eager to get going on it, but we
definitely want your feedback before we
do to
>> make sure that
» make sure that
>> you're bringing it in. If you could stay
» you're bringing it in. If you could stay
available for questions. It's absolutely
just a discussion item, so we're not
quite as formal, but
>> Sure.
» Sure.
>> you still have questions. Commissioner
» you still have questions. Commissioner
Berg.
>> Sure.
» Sure.
>> Yeah. Thank you, Chair Rody. Uh, just a
» Yeah. Thank you, Chair Rody. Uh, just a
few questions more just for my
understanding and anything. Tony, you
mentioned Cameron Way. Is that the
proposed name of the road that goes in
in front of the the town homes there or
which road is that referencing?
>> Oh, it is. Okay.
» Oh, it is. Okay.
>> I think it's okay.
» I think it's okay.
>> Does it switch name?
» Does it switch name?
>> It switches north south.
» It switches north south.
>> Okay. Okay. That makes more.
» Okay. Okay. That makes more.
>> We have 212 as it comes in and then as
» We have 212 as it comes in and then as
it goes north it turns
>> as it turns. Okay. Thank you for that
» as it turns. Okay. Thank you for that
clarification. Um so Tony I think you
covered it. That portion of gravel would
be matched with whatever road
>> on Cambodia
» on Cambodia
>> on Cambodia there all the way up and
» on Cambodia there all the way up and
then as it turns east I assume it would
turn back gravel.
>> Correct.
» Correct.
>> Okay. Um and then the road that goes
» Okay. Um and then the road that goes
north as Cambodia continues would it
terminate where that land terminates?
where that development terminates on the
north.
>> Correct.
» Correct.
>> And also on the west s same question
» And also on the west s same question
that road would terminate at that pond.
>> Correct.
» Correct.
>> Okay,
» Okay,
>> that helps. I just wanted to understand
» that helps. I just wanted to understand
what the plan was around the roads
there.
>> Um, second is around uh any sort of
» Um, second is around uh any sort of
thought or discussion around any sort of
park. I I'm fairly familiar with that
area. Is there any plan at this point to
put any sort of park or uh public place
for kids?
>> No. Uh we did discuss this at our
» No. Uh we did discuss this at our
internal DRC meeting, development review
committee meeting. Um Kelly, our park
and recck director reviewed it. Um at
this point, no, there would be any
>> we wouldn't be looking to take park in
» we wouldn't be looking to take park in
this area. We take park dedication.
Yeah. Um
the
park dedication
um code got changed a couple years ago
to where they're looking to do more
>> larger communitywide parks. Um
» larger communitywide parks. Um
>> that are spaced out a little bit further
» that are spaced out a little bit further
just from a maintenance standpoint and
things like that. That's why they did
that.
>> Um
» Um
>> and in this case, there's just not
» and in this case, there's just not
enough not enough land to do anything.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
The the reason I'm specifically asking
about park is because there's a really
nice one to the north of this
development, but it's on the other side
of the water. Right.
>> Right. So, that's why I was like, if
» Right. So, that's why I was like, if
you've got kids that are attracted to
that park, um just making sure there was
some thought there around
>> Yeah. And there there is a small total
in the Sunrise Ponds development south.
>> Um just off the map here south.
» Um just off the map here south.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> But it is very small.
» But it is very small.
>> Okay. Um, and then it appears at least
» Okay. Um, and then it appears at least
from this drawing to the the west and
then the south there's some out lots,
some sort of triangular outlots here. Do
we have a plan for what would be done
with those? Is there any thought around
if it's built as sort of mapped out
here, what what would be done in those?
>> I I don't believe potentially
» I I don't believe potentially
potentially storm water maybe if
necessary.
>> Okay. Um, I know there's been talk about
» Okay. Um, I know there's been talk about
expanding the existing ponds to
accommodate the storm water
requirements.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Um, but really it's just the uniqueness
» Um, but really it's just the uniqueness
of the the parcel itself. Um,
>> it really doesn't lay out to, you know,
» it really doesn't lay out to, you know,
fill the entire piece.
>> Yeah. And honestly, that's exactly what
» Yeah. And honestly, that's exactly what
I was asking, right? It you guys
referencing, right? It's a unique piece
of land. So, trying to understand what
the plan was. Okay.
>> Mr. Chris, is that accurate? The land to
» Mr. Chris, is that accurate? The land to
the west that there's a parcel, I'll
call it. Tony, you can point to him or
maybe he knows we're talking about.
>> Tell me if I'm wrong, Tony, that I
» Tell me if I'm wrong, Tony, that I
believe the city owns some parcels right
here.
>> City owns parcels through here. Um, the
» City owns parcels through here. Um, the
city owns all of this. It was done as
part of the Prairie Waterway back in the
'9s.
>> I was looking at the stuff to the right,
» I was looking at the stuff to the right,
I'll call it west, southwest.
>> Yeah, that little one right here. Yeah.
» Yeah, that little one right here. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Is that accurate?
» Yeah. Is that accurate?
It would likely just be open space,
>> right?
» right?
>> Nonbuildable there.
» Nonbuildable there.
>> Yeah.
» Yeah.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Yeah, it gets to be too small to do
» Yeah, it gets to be too small to do
anything.
>> All right. Okay. Okay.
» All right. Okay. Okay.
>> Gary. No, that's good for me.
» Gary. No, that's good for me.
Commissioner Rutherford.
» Yeah. I got just a couple of questions,
Tony. Was there ever any No, I assume
the the rightway for the existing
rightway is what runs right along those
backyards on the north side of the
current development. Yeah, that area.
>> Yep. It's all that
» Yep. It's all that
>> and that lines up with 210th Street to
» and that lines up with 210th Street to
the east. Was there ever any plan for
that to connect all the way to Highway
3?
>> That was the intent. We actually have
» That was the intent. We actually have
easement through Mr. Regan's old bus
garage property that's just to the west
of
>> Y
» Y
>> um to eventually make that connection.
» um to eventually make that connection.
>> Sure. And does this re would this
» Sure. And does this re would this
realignment have any negative impact on
that future plan?
>> No.
» No.
>> Okay. So engineering has taken a look at
» Okay. So engineering has taken a look at
this and they're okay with the
engineering proposed realignment look at
it. Um they've actually looked at
designating as MSA route actually.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> So
» So
>> uh and then one final question on the
» uh and then one final question on the
existing rightway if that's vacated who
takes ownership of that then what what
happens?
>> Uh 50% goes to the north 50% goes to the
» Uh 50% goes to the north 50% goes to the
the south property line or property
owners.
>> Okay. All right. That's all I have for
» Okay. All right. That's all I have for
now. Thank you,
>> Commissioner Lemire.
» Commissioner Lemire.
>> I took a stroll over by this property
» I took a stroll over by this property
here a little bit this evening and when
I did I just the one thing that popped
out at me was the um electrical lines.
>> And so what sort of uh items would be a
» And so what sort of uh items would be a
hindrance for this conceptual plan in
relation to those electrical lines and
and
>> right
» right
>> what goes through there at this point in
» what goes through there at this point in
time. Actually, that's one of the other
reasons why the realignment of 212 went
through because they would have had to
um either relocate those lines or
bury them or do some some other thing
with those lines. And that is a very
costly thing to do with those lines. Um
to the point where, you know, even
making this development work as is
tight. Um, but then you throw that on to
it, it just adds to that. Um,
>> but it's still doable with where those
» but it's still doable with where those
lines are at at this point in time and
what the development is looking like at
this point.
>> Right.
» So, [snorts] is there actually going to
be a road that can go through 210 then
>> or to like from Highway 3 to 210
» or to like from Highway 3 to 210
or like will 210 go all the way to
Highway 3 because of those lines? Not
because of those lines, but just because
of need for transportation connectivity
through the area.
>> But those lines won't be a hindrance for
» But those lines won't be a hindrance for
that road to be developed later on down
the line.
>> Shouldn't.
» Shouldn't.
>> Sorry. Okay.
» Sorry. Okay.
>> Um, is there a need to expand that 210th
» Um, is there a need to expand that 210th
all the way west to Highway 3 or can it
come up Cambodia and have the entrances
and exits through the current
development and Cambodia?
>> [clears throat]
» [clears throat]
>> Well, you don't need the connection to
» Well, you don't need the connection to
Highway 3 to develop this okay
>> specific parcel. Um I think long term
» specific parcel. Um I think long term
the plan is to have it connect in. Um
but yeah, you we're not saying that you
need to have that connection with this
specific development.
>> Okay. So with the entrance um through
» Okay. So with the entrance um through
Cambodia,
that would be sufficient enough at this
point in time for the development to
happen. Okay, that should be it for me.
>> Yeah, there there would be multiple ways
» Yeah, there there would be multiple ways
in and out. You could have Cambodia and
then you also have Cameron way to get in
and out. So, you have your multiple
accesses.
>> All right, thank you Nate. And I'll ask
» All right, thank you Nate. And I'll ask
a few questions then I'll touch a little
more on what Nate was getting at but and
what others did too. But um and this
might be a question for Chris or Pat or
I would ask Tim this if he were here.
Now Tony laid out several road projects
that kind of he's right in your
checkbook for you.
Are is you as the property owner, Pat or
Chris as the engineer,
is is that going to fly with this
project?
>> I mean, there's some significant road to
» I mean, there's some significant road to
build here.
>> Yeah. So, I assume you're talking about
» Yeah. So, I assume you're talking about
paving uh Cambodia.
>> Paving Cambodia. And also the, you know,
» Paving Cambodia. And also the, you know,
the other stuff. Yeah.
>> I mean, that's that's some significant
» I mean, that's that's some significant
roads.
>> There's more.
» There's more.
>> Two10.
» Two10.
>> Two10th. Yeah.
» Two10th. Yeah.
>> Among others. I mean it's it's you got a
» Among others. I mean it's it's you got a
number of town houses here but yeah
>> I mean you got some road construction to
» I mean you got some road construction to
do. Are you okay with that?
>> Are you okay with this question?
» Are you okay with this question?
[clears throat and laughter]
>> Then I'll get into the reason why in a
» Then I'll get into the reason why in a
little bit and explain to the
commission.
>> It's a good question. I have the same
» It's a good question. I have the same
question.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Uh and I wanted to react if I could. Um
» Uh and I wanted to react if I could. Um
the road termination points of the new
210th if you could call it that. this
relocated 210th and the and Cambodia.
Uh, as as I stand here now, I think
we're going to want to try to minimize
the length of those roads on I don't
know how I point, but uh
>> on the on the west end here, I don't
» on the on the west end here, I don't
envision that we would want to put a
road next to the neighbor's sideyard. I
think we'd want to connect directly to
Cambodia and just make it kind of
>> Cameron way. I'm sorry.
» Cameron way. I'm sorry.
>> So maybe end it like right here.
» So maybe end it like right here.
>> Yeah. And just just connect here. Those
» Yeah. And just just connect here. Those
those power poles are they're a main
line from Great River Energy. We've been
involved in this area in with wearing
multiple hats for 25 30 years now. And
the same question I have is what Mr.
Rod's asking. What would be the the
final condition on the east end at
Cambodia and the new 210th? In in my
view, we would just connect them and
maybe extend long enough to do a
turnaround. I don't think we would be
interested in building a culde-sac or
anything like that because emergency
vehicles would be able to connect and
make a loop through the the new 210th
Street. the history here. Uh,
I bought the property to the east of to
the west of here where the bus terminal
is was and where it was the Dakota
electric pole yard prior to that and
there was a a railroad right away that
went through there and then I
um needed more land and there was a very
large multi- uh single family
development that was going to take up
a few hundred acres and a few hundred
homes to the east of us that was being
proposed by one of these big developers
during the the boom in the '9s. And so
the city and I made an agreement to
allow for an easement to create that
210th Street connection from from
Highway 3 all the way to the east end of
my property that the bus terminal was
involved in. And the question about
210th Street uh was always there for me
in the future because these this big
development that never occurred was the
driving force. So in that easement
agreement that we have with the city, I
traded the easement and the city gave me
the lot over in the in the uh new
Farmington Industrial Park that is now
uh I developed it. I moved a building
over there. We had buses parked there
and I've since sold it to another user.
Um
that's on
208th Street I think.
>> Yeah.
» Yeah.
>> And uh so we were able to expand our
» And uh so we were able to expand our
operation. The city got the easement.
Part of that agreement provides that uh
this property I retained
does not would not be subject to any
assessment if a road is ever built. And
it's such a long stretch. I think it's
would that be 1,800 ft? I think it's a
from here to here. It's it's a long long
road and uh would never be economically
feasible for our property because of
this triangular shape that was formed by
the railroad originally. The same thing
applies on this
small parcel that we got we were
involved in the Sunrise Ponds
development when that was built and then
Mr. Giles and then it then it got hit
hard in the downturn. We foreclosed on
the property. That's I'm wearing my
banker's hat now when I'm talking about
that. And those were tough times and I
along with the bank and Mr. Giles came
in and and were able to replplat this
part of Sunrise, the the part of the
Sunrise Ponds that's existing and but we
couldn't come to an agreement on what to
do with uh with this parcel we're
looking at today and because of the
210th Street
uh condition was just too much to invest
on such small lots if they were going to
be single family. So the the ability to
relocate
210th Street and it's a 50- foot Yep.
>> right away makes this at at all
» right away makes this at at all
financially feasible. And the fact that
we can get 32 units in here, there are a
lot of other similar products in the
market nearby that we've tried to
emulate here that have been built by
multiple builders and developers. So,
and we've got the waterfront which we
think is going to be an attraction. So,
uh,
long answer to your short but pertinent
question about does this work
financially. We think it does under this
relocated road design. There
[clears throat] was an earlier question
if I could respond to the idea of the
vacation of the existing 210 street
rightway. I think that's an open
question. There is you can see a trail
there was the base of that road was
installed because there are some
utilities in that line also. So I think
it's worthy of further study and
consideration. The basically the the
base for the bike trail if you wanted
one is there and who owns it. The city
could take an easement or take ownership
of a
>> or you could just leave it as right of
» or you could just leave it as right of
way. We could leave leave it as right of
>> An option.
» An option.
>> You can see in the photos the neighbors
» You can see in the photos the neighbors
are using part of the the the 210 street
right ofway which is natural. There's
nothing else going on back there and it
hasn't bothered us. It's not our right
away.
Um but there's there is enough extra
space between the right of way and these
little pockets for for drainage or if we
wanted to plant a grove of trees and
that kind of thing. I I think it would
fit in well. And I was going to refer to
the little tot lot that was part of that
Sunrise Ponds. It's just off of the map
on the on the corner.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Um
» Um
so we'd have to be thoughtful about this
the final road design and if we start
stretching out the road, it could end up
being a a problem for the for the uh
the development and the power poles. We
did investigate the cost to relocate or
bury those. They're are they 150 ft
high? They're they're
>> transmission. They're It wouldn't be
» transmission. They're It wouldn't be
>> many many many many hundreds of thousand
» many many many many hundreds of thousand
dollars.
>> It wouldn't be cheap for you. So,
» It wouldn't be cheap for you. So,
>> so it wasn't
» so it wasn't
>> okay
» okay
>> feasible.
» feasible.
>> Well, thanks Pat.
» Well, thanks Pat.
>> Any other questions? No, I just want to
» Any other questions? No, I just want to
follow up then to Nate and uh what's
going on and and as we go through our
comp plan, we'll do a transportation
section and things like this row and
stuff will be shown and and discussed
further and why and then what I wanted
you alluded to it and and why I brought
it up and wanted to ask cost first is
is we don't want to leave roads to be
built by our taxpayers. you know, if
there's a development that's going on,
and you guys understand as you've been
in this business, um, one time in my
career, years and years ago, 30 some
years ago, we didn't make a developer do
it, and then the next one came back, and
then he he or she or they had to in
essence pay for it or find means to pay
for it. and and so we do in this
community and others too, I'm sure Chris
you've been working with them kind of
require as a development goes they they
pay for the roads. Um and that's why I
thought it was pertinent. I just want to
let the other commissioners know why why
we're doing it rather than letting our
taxpayers foot the bill for, you know,
the road that's going in front of
somebody else's. Yeah. When it comes to
maintenance in the future, everybody
contributes to road maintenance, but new
construction is that of the developer.
So, I just had a few others. Um
Tony um you know this you listed all the
different things comp plan um reszone uh
land use time frame as we're working
through a comp plan. Can this be tied
into it or are you thinking this is
something that um is going to be an
exception too or what what are your
thoughts on that?
>> It certainly could be tied into that um
» It certainly could be tied into that um
you know obviously the comprehensive
plan um takes a a number of years. Uh
we're looking probably a year and a half
out um for that to be approved. Um you
know, I know we've had this conversation
on a number of different parcels.
>> Um
it could be tied to that or, you know,
we certainly could um or they could
apply and at that point we'd have to
make a decision one way or the other.
>> Yeah.
» Yeah.
>> Um at that time.
» Um at that time.
>> Sure. and and you know, you're going to
» Sure. and and you know, you're going to
have a lot of discussions. Pat brought
up some great questions that I think
still need to be talked discussed with
staff. Um things that the commission
doesn't decide. Uh Pat, um things that
you know, the staff will bring a
recommendation. Most likely a lot of
that would be finalized with our city
council.
>> Sure.
» Sure.
>> But you know, we certainly uh will see
» But you know, we certainly uh will see
it in the future if it does come. And
the last thing I wanted to mention and
and I say this as much for the
commission but is developers certainly
know this but when we have two different
zoning districts
we always like a buffer. Um you know 50
foot road right away with the road in
there to me I I I think would suffice as
a buffer. Um I think that Tony you
alluded to that in there. Maybe you
didn't say it, but I think that's why
you said there's a road in between,
>> right?
» right?
>> Single family and the multi
» Single family and the multi
>> and the actual right ofway for 210
» and the actual right ofway for 210
that's in between. Um I believe that's
either an 80 I think it's an 80 foot 80.
Okay.
>> So it's it's it's a 70
» So it's it's it's a 70
>> 70. Okay. It's either 70 or 80.
» 70. Okay. It's either 70 or 80.
>> All right.
» All right.
>> So it's a substantial right.
» So it's a substantial right.
>> Yeah. And but I just want to make known
» Yeah. And but I just want to make known
then for the the newer commissioners
that you know we always do look for some
kind of buffer. If this was backyard to
backyard, we'd say, "Hey, let's think
about this a little more." But when you
got, you know, 70 80 feet in there, are
you guys okay with that as a buffer
transit? I I call it a buffer some
transition maybe a better term. But uh
so that you know you don't because you
know I don't know these people that
bought these lots you know when they did
at their backyard what you know they
were backing up to what they assumed
would be single family not and I don't
know if town houses are are any
different but you know that's just what
their assumption was when they bought
the lot with the house. So
>> that's why I mentioned that I really
» that's why I mentioned that I really
don't have an issue you know I think
it's a fine use for the piece of
property. Um I think you can make it
work if you can do it financially.
That's why I brought that up. But that's
not my job. It's your job to to, you
know, crunch the numbers on that and
work with staff. Work with Tony. He'll
direct you to the right people in and
the city to to talk with and deal with.
So, I actually I kind of like the
concept. It's it's a useful piece of
land. Somebody mentioned the frontage of
the water. I think I think that would if
you sight them right, I think that'd be
a great amenity for some of those uh you
know, the back ones. I really do.
>> We think so, too.
» We think so, too.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think that it would be
» Yeah. Yeah. I think that it would be
nice lots there. So,
>> I don't have anything else. Tony, how
» I don't have anything else. Tony, how
about you?
>> No. Um,
» No. Um,
>> okay.
» okay.
>> At this time,
» At this time,
>> I'd like to add that it's our intention
» I'd like to add that it's our intention
if we have to go through the cup
amendment, we would make that
application as soon as we feel confident
we can go ahead and a year and a half
wouldn't wouldn't work.
>> That's why I asked that's why I asked
» That's why I asked that's why I asked
Tony that same question. I I didn't know
your timing, but now you've told us your
timing.
>> Yeah, we if we have to put in the that
» Yeah, we if we have to put in the that
application to get that amendment to
this land, we do have plans we're
working on for the bus terminal property
also.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> That's impacted by the the big uh um by
» That's impacted by the the big uh um by
the same road right away and the staff's
been flexible and open to some ideas on
the width of that easement and that kind
of thing. We're talking about garage
condos probably because of the the big
uh warehouse to the south of us and uh
we don't think it's going to work very
well for residential because of that.
That's a so it's but it is a nice
transition. We've got the the holiday to
the north.
>> You know, Pat, if you were talking 160
» You know, Pat, if you were talking 160
acres and I've been pretty vocal on
this, I'd say, you know, then then I'd
ask you, can you wait? But you're not
talking 160 acres. you're talking the
smaller concept plan here.
>> Um,
» Um,
I think it's doable. I think I don't
know what other you'd use the land for.
I mean, if you came in with a different
use, maybe we'd have a different
question, but this this would work here.
I believe I don't, you know, I leave it
up to the other commissioners if they
don't agree. But, um, I think our city
council, you know, would think it's a
nice addition to the area, but that's up
to them, not to me. I think it makes
good use of the the regional pond that
was built there since we owned the
property that we can turn it into an
amenity. These aren't these are going to
be houses that'll that'll fit a broad
economic market. They'll be available to
a lot of people. I don't want to use
>> certain words that means certain things
» certain words that means certain things
to other people, but they're these are
going to be houses that a lot of people
should be able to be interested in and
it be affordable and and uh but
and again, we did look at other projects
in
other other communities nearby and and
tried to model those. They look like
they're they're moving pretty well and
uh so
we want to
get it done. We've had it long enough.
We've got to make make something happen
here. So, we appreciate it.
>> We got everybody involved. Did you have
» We got everybody involved. Did you have
anything to add?
>> Nothing. All right. All right. Anything
» Nothing. All right. All right. Anything
else from staff? You got Do you guys
have enough Pat? Chris, you have enough
to go on from here? Deal with Tony. Not
[laughter]
>> this has been helpful. Thank you.
» this has been helpful. Thank you.
>> All right. Yeah, I got a lot of good
» All right. Yeah, I got a lot of good
questions, I thought, from the
commission. They they did a nice job.
>> All right, Tony. Anything else,
» All right, Tony. Anything else,
>> uh, not on this? No.
» uh, not on this? No.
>> All right. Do you have anything else?
» All right. Do you have anything else?
>> I was just going to mention our uh
» I was just going to mention our uh
meeting in uh September will also be uh
on Wednesday as well. Um just so you're
aware um due to uh the holiday and then
the city council meeting being pushed to
the Tuesday where we would typically
have our meeting. So just wanted to make
you aware of that again. So
>> perfect. And I'll just remind them our
» perfect. And I'll just remind them our
next regular meeting is September 9th
and it is a Wednesday and Tony will do a
nice job of emailing us and reminding us
so nobody absolutely Wednesday night. If
you are you can sit through the council
meeting [laughter] with that I'd look
for a motion to adjurnn.
>> A motion.
» A motion.
>> We have a motion. Is there a second?
» We have a motion. Is there a second?
>> Second.
» Second.
>> Motion a second. All in favor say I.
» Motion a second. All in favor say I.
>> I.
» I.
>> We're officially adjourned. Thank you
» We're officially adjourned. Thank you
everybody.
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