1 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:31,589 [music] 2 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:32,800 All right, we'll call the meeting to 3 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,920 order. On behalf of the planning 4 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,120 commission, like to welcome our 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,640 residents and viewers to this regular 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,520 meeting of August 12th, 2026. 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,440 On tonight's agenda, we just have one 8 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,280 discussion item. Uh we'll get to that 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,920 after one housekeeping item, which is 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,280 the minutes from our July 14th, 2026 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,280 regular meeting. Are there any additions 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,399 or corrections to those minutes? 13 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:56,719 If not, is there a motion? 14 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:57,760 Motion. 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,110 >> Have a motion for approval. Is there a 16 00:00:59,110 --> 00:00:59,120 » Have a motion for approval. Is there a 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,680 second? 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,549 >> Second. 19 00:01:00,549 --> 00:01:00,559 » Second. 20 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:02,630 >> Motion and second. All in favor say I. 21 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:02,640 » Motion and second. All in favor say I. 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,280 I. 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,590 >> Minutes are approved. We'll start our 24 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:05,600 » Minutes are approved. We'll start our 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,840 discussion item. This is a concept plan 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,040 for the Sunrise North um addition. Tony, 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,159 you're going to take this? 28 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:20,469 >> I am. Let me get it pulled up here. 29 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:22,880 There we go. 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,200 Yes. Uh thank you, Mr. Chair, commission 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,159 members, uh we have a concept plan for 32 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:30,240 what is uh at least right now called 33 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,280 Sunrise North. Um Mr. Tim Giles 34 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,840 submitted the the concept. 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Um the site is 3.48 acres. Um it's owned 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,240 by P MKR Real Estate. Um and it's 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,560 located directly north of the Sunrise 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,399 Ponds development on the east side of 39 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:51,040 town. um kind of at the juncture of 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,159 Cambodia Avenue and 210th uh Street 41 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:56,159 West. 42 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:58,320 Uh the concept plan shows a total of 32 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,640 town home units. Uh those would be four 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,439 pods of eight units. Uh shows a gross 45 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:06,960 density of 9.19 dwelling units per acre. 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Uh it does include the extension of 210 47 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,720 Street West uh through the site. Uh, one 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,640 thing to note is that right ofway 4, 49 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:16,800 210th Street was originally dedicated 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,239 with the Sunrise Ponds Plat back in 2006 51 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:22,879 and it runs that right of way runs 52 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:25,920 parallel to the southern boundary of 53 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,000 this site. So, in between the original 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,560 development and this parcel, the road 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,800 itself was never constructed being that 56 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,680 it really didn't serve anything at that 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,280 time, but we wanted to at least have the 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,200 rightway preserved. Um with this uh 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,440 concept plan, it shows the realignment 60 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,080 of that road uh through the center part 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,800 of this parcel. Um that realignment 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,000 serves a couple purposes. Um it allows 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,519 for um some more flexibility and usable 64 00:02:57,519 --> 00:03:00,879 space of the site. Um while also 65 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:04,159 providing a buffer um to the res single 66 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:06,400 family residents uh to the south as 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,239 well. um so that those houses don't have 68 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:14,400 double frontage on roads. Um the 69 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,560 realignment would require vacation of a 70 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,640 portion of the existing 210th Street 71 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:21,280 right ofway. Um and it should also be 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,200 noted that 210th Street would have to 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,519 connect into Cambodia Avenue and Cameron 74 00:03:25,519 --> 00:03:29,599 Way um as well. So a portion of Cambodia 75 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:32,720 Avenue right now is gravel um basically 76 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,959 from the entrance of Sunrise Ponds 77 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:38,000 north. uh that would have to be uh 78 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,640 improved with Batuminous um if this were 79 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,720 to move forward. 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,519 Uh this just shows the concept plan. It 81 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:47,440 shows uh 210th Street going through the 82 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,680 center with town home units on either 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,080 side of the road 84 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,080 um with Cambodia again getting extended 85 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,519 north and then uh extending into uh 86 00:03:57,519 --> 00:04:03,680 Cameron Way on the uh west side as well. 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,439 Zoning. The property is currently zoned 88 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:07,200 R2, which is our lowmedium density 89 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,760 residential. Um, due to the town homes, 90 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,840 uh, it should be reszoned to an R3, 91 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,160 which is our medium density residential. 92 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,919 Um, and also due to the, uh, density 93 00:04:19,919 --> 00:04:23,040 being, uh, nine units an acre. Uh, the 94 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,280 R3 does allow for 12 to six dwelling 95 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:27,840 units per acre. 96 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:29,680 The comprehensive plan currently shows 97 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,759 this as a lowmedium density residential. 98 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:34,080 So it's in line with the current zoning. 99 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Um has a development time frame of 2030 100 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,840 to 2040. And a lot of that just had to 101 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:42,160 do with the develop how the site is. 102 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,199 It's a very unique site. Um and it's a 103 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:48,639 challenging site to develop. Um the 104 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:51,520 property is located in the current Musa 105 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 municipal urban service area. So um that 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,360 does not have to be amended. Um but if 107 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,759 the com if this process or this project 108 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:01,120 were to move forward, there would need 109 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,120 to be amendments um to change the land 110 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,960 use designation to medium density 111 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,120 residential and also to change the 112 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,320 development time frame uh to 2020 113 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,880 instead of keeping it in the 2030 2040 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,440 time range. 115 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,360 Uh the action requested tonight is just 116 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,520 to discuss the concept plan. Um that's 117 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,000 all it is concept and provide feedback 118 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,120 to uh the property owners. Um Mr. Giles 119 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,120 is not present. Apparently he is uh 120 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,120 sick. Um but we do have the property 121 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,639 owner here as well as their engineer. So 122 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:36,230 >> all right. Thank you Tony. Uh Mr. Egan. 123 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:36,240 » all right. Thank you Tony. Uh Mr. Egan. 124 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,840 Uh Mr. Chris. I don't know why I didn't 125 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:39,039 meet your last name. 126 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:40,230 >> Chris Awig. 127 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:40,240 » Chris Awig. 128 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,150 >> Okay. 129 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:42,160 » Okay. 130 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,680 Do you have anything to add to Tony's 131 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,680 report or anything you'd like to state 132 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,479 to the commission? uh you know, Tony did 133 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:51,840 a pretty good job on it. Um what we have 134 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:53,440 is, you know, we're just trying to 135 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,560 utilize this uh odd triangular piece and 136 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,039 and uh working with staff. This is this 137 00:05:59,039 --> 00:06:02,639 is what we came up with. Um and we're 138 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:04,080 eager to get going on it, but we 139 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,639 definitely want your feedback before we 140 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:07,759 do to 141 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:08,469 >> make sure that 142 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:08,479 » make sure that 143 00:06:08,479 --> 00:06:09,670 >> you're bringing it in. If you could stay 144 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:09,680 » you're bringing it in. If you could stay 145 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,440 available for questions. It's absolutely 146 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,280 just a discussion item, so we're not 147 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:14,720 quite as formal, but 148 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,110 >> Sure. 149 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:15,120 » Sure. 150 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,309 >> you still have questions. Commissioner 151 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:16,319 » you still have questions. Commissioner 152 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:16,880 Berg. 153 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,230 >> Sure. 154 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:18,240 » Sure. 155 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,790 >> Yeah. Thank you, Chair Rody. Uh, just a 156 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:20,800 » Yeah. Thank you, Chair Rody. Uh, just a 157 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,120 few questions more just for my 158 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,120 understanding and anything. Tony, you 159 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,520 mentioned Cameron Way. Is that the 160 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,039 proposed name of the road that goes in 161 00:06:29,039 --> 00:06:31,840 in front of the the town homes there or 162 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:35,360 which road is that referencing? 163 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,189 >> Oh, it is. Okay. 164 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:37,199 » Oh, it is. Okay. 165 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:41,670 >> I think it's okay. 166 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:41,680 » I think it's okay. 167 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,950 >> Does it switch name? 168 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:42,960 » Does it switch name? 169 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,390 >> It switches north south. 170 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:44,400 » It switches north south. 171 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,749 >> Okay. Okay. That makes more. 172 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:45,759 » Okay. Okay. That makes more. 173 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:47,830 >> We have 212 as it comes in and then as 174 00:06:47,830 --> 00:06:47,840 » We have 212 as it comes in and then as 175 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:48,639 it goes north it turns 176 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:50,550 >> as it turns. Okay. Thank you for that 177 00:06:50,550 --> 00:06:50,560 » as it turns. Okay. Thank you for that 178 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,759 clarification. Um so Tony I think you 179 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:55,840 covered it. That portion of gravel would 180 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:58,720 be matched with whatever road 181 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,670 >> on Cambodia 182 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:59,680 » on Cambodia 183 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,749 >> on Cambodia there all the way up and 184 00:07:01,749 --> 00:07:01,759 » on Cambodia there all the way up and 185 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:03,520 then as it turns east I assume it would 186 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,720 turn back gravel. 187 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:05,270 >> Correct. 188 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:05,280 » Correct. 189 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:08,469 >> Okay. Um and then the road that goes 190 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:08,479 » Okay. Um and then the road that goes 191 00:07:08,479 --> 00:07:11,360 north as Cambodia continues would it 192 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,080 terminate where that land terminates? 193 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,520 where that development terminates on the 194 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:15,919 north. 195 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:16,230 >> Correct. 196 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:16,240 » Correct. 197 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,629 >> And also on the west s same question 198 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:18,639 » And also on the west s same question 199 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:21,280 that road would terminate at that pond. 200 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:21,749 >> Correct. 201 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:21,759 » Correct. 202 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:22,629 >> Okay, 203 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:22,639 » Okay, 204 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:24,150 >> that helps. I just wanted to understand 205 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:24,160 » that helps. I just wanted to understand 206 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,919 what the plan was around the roads 207 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:26,880 there. 208 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,390 >> Um, second is around uh any sort of 209 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:30,400 » Um, second is around uh any sort of 210 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,639 thought or discussion around any sort of 211 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,120 park. I I'm fairly familiar with that 212 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,520 area. Is there any plan at this point to 213 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,120 put any sort of park or uh public place 214 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,479 for kids? 215 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:44,950 >> No. Uh we did discuss this at our 216 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:44,960 » No. Uh we did discuss this at our 217 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,280 internal DRC meeting, development review 218 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,440 committee meeting. Um Kelly, our park 219 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,880 and recck director reviewed it. Um at 220 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,000 this point, no, there would be any 221 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,070 >> we wouldn't be looking to take park in 222 00:07:58,070 --> 00:07:58,080 » we wouldn't be looking to take park in 223 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,160 this area. We take park dedication. 224 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,080 Yeah. Um 225 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,919 the 226 00:08:03,919 --> 00:08:05,759 park dedication 227 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:08,720 um code got changed a couple years ago 228 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,440 to where they're looking to do more 229 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,909 >> larger communitywide parks. Um 230 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:15,919 » larger communitywide parks. Um 231 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:18,230 >> that are spaced out a little bit further 232 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:18,240 » that are spaced out a little bit further 233 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,919 just from a maintenance standpoint and 234 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:21,520 things like that. That's why they did 235 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,479 that. 236 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:23,350 >> Um 237 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:23,360 » Um 238 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,950 >> and in this case, there's just not 239 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:24,960 » and in this case, there's just not 240 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,000 enough not enough land to do anything. 241 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,189 >> Okay. 242 00:08:29,189 --> 00:08:29,199 » Okay. 243 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:31,120 The the reason I'm specifically asking 244 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,640 about park is because there's a really 245 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,240 nice one to the north of this 246 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,839 development, but it's on the other side 247 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:36,959 of the water. Right. 248 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:38,230 >> Right. So, that's why I was like, if 249 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:38,240 » Right. So, that's why I was like, if 250 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,560 you've got kids that are attracted to 251 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:42,800 that park, um just making sure there was 252 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,080 some thought there around 253 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,110 >> Yeah. And there there is a small total 254 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,080 in the Sunrise Ponds development south. 255 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,470 >> Um just off the map here south. 256 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:54,480 » Um just off the map here south. 257 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:54,870 >> Okay. 258 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:54,880 » Okay. 259 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,870 >> But it is very small. 260 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:56,880 » But it is very small. 261 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,470 >> Okay. Um, and then it appears at least 262 00:09:00,470 --> 00:09:00,480 » Okay. Um, and then it appears at least 263 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,560 from this drawing to the the west and 264 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:04,640 then the south there's some out lots, 265 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,800 some sort of triangular outlots here. Do 266 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,640 we have a plan for what would be done 267 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 with those? Is there any thought around 268 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,120 if it's built as sort of mapped out 269 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,880 here, what what would be done in those? 270 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,949 >> I I don't believe potentially 271 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:18,959 » I I don't believe potentially 272 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:20,959 potentially storm water maybe if 273 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:21,920 necessary. 274 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,230 >> Okay. Um, I know there's been talk about 275 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:24,240 » Okay. Um, I know there's been talk about 276 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,240 expanding the existing ponds to 277 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,600 accommodate the storm water 278 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,480 requirements. 279 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,350 >> Okay. 280 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:29,360 » Okay. 281 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,190 >> Um, but really it's just the uniqueness 282 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:33,200 » Um, but really it's just the uniqueness 283 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,200 of the the parcel itself. Um, 284 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,829 >> it really doesn't lay out to, you know, 285 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:39,839 » it really doesn't lay out to, you know, 286 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:41,360 fill the entire piece. 287 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,350 >> Yeah. And honestly, that's exactly what 288 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:43,360 » Yeah. And honestly, that's exactly what 289 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,040 I was asking, right? It you guys 290 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,279 referencing, right? It's a unique piece 291 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:49,040 of land. So, trying to understand what 292 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,560 the plan was. Okay. 293 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,550 >> Mr. Chris, is that accurate? The land to 294 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:52,560 » Mr. Chris, is that accurate? The land to 295 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:55,600 the west that there's a parcel, I'll 296 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,120 call it. Tony, you can point to him or 297 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,959 maybe he knows we're talking about. 298 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:00,310 >> Tell me if I'm wrong, Tony, that I 299 00:10:00,310 --> 00:10:00,320 » Tell me if I'm wrong, Tony, that I 300 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,160 believe the city owns some parcels right 301 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,560 here. 302 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,030 >> City owns parcels through here. Um, the 303 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:05,040 » City owns parcels through here. Um, the 304 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,800 city owns all of this. It was done as 305 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,440 part of the Prairie Waterway back in the 306 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,480 '9s. 307 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,110 >> I was looking at the stuff to the right, 308 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:13,120 » I was looking at the stuff to the right, 309 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,640 I'll call it west, southwest. 310 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,790 >> Yeah, that little one right here. Yeah. 311 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:16,800 » Yeah, that little one right here. Yeah. 312 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,870 >> Yeah. Is that accurate? 313 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:18,880 » Yeah. Is that accurate? 314 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,040 It would likely just be open space, 315 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:21,590 >> right? 316 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:21,600 » right? 317 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,190 >> Nonbuildable there. 318 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:23,200 » Nonbuildable there. 319 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:23,670 >> Yeah. 320 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:23,680 » Yeah. 321 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:24,389 >> Okay. 322 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:24,399 » Okay. 323 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:26,310 >> Yeah, it gets to be too small to do 324 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:26,320 » Yeah, it gets to be too small to do 325 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:26,720 anything. 326 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,550 >> All right. Okay. Okay. 327 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:28,560 » All right. Okay. Okay. 328 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,389 >> Gary. No, that's good for me. 329 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:30,399 » Gary. No, that's good for me. 330 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:34,069 Commissioner Rutherford. 331 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:36,320 » Yeah. I got just a couple of questions, 332 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,279 Tony. Was there ever any No, I assume 333 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,680 the the rightway for the existing 334 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:43,760 rightway is what runs right along those 335 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,600 backyards on the north side of the 336 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,360 current development. Yeah, that area. 337 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,389 >> Yep. It's all that 338 00:10:48,389 --> 00:10:48,399 » Yep. It's all that 339 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:51,269 >> and that lines up with 210th Street to 340 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:51,279 » and that lines up with 210th Street to 341 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:53,360 the east. Was there ever any plan for 342 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,120 that to connect all the way to Highway 343 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,160 3? 344 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,150 >> That was the intent. We actually have 345 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:58,160 » That was the intent. We actually have 346 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,720 easement through Mr. Regan's old bus 347 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,800 garage property that's just to the west 348 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,760 of 349 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,470 >> Y 350 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:04,480 » Y 351 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,350 >> um to eventually make that connection. 352 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:07,360 » um to eventually make that connection. 353 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,110 >> Sure. And does this re would this 354 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:11,120 » Sure. And does this re would this 355 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,680 realignment have any negative impact on 356 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,680 that future plan? 357 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:16,389 >> No. 358 00:11:16,389 --> 00:11:16,399 » No. 359 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:18,550 >> Okay. So engineering has taken a look at 360 00:11:18,550 --> 00:11:18,560 » Okay. So engineering has taken a look at 361 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:19,680 this and they're okay with the 362 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:21,920 engineering proposed realignment look at 363 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,399 it. Um they've actually looked at 364 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,959 designating as MSA route actually. 365 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:28,230 >> Okay. 366 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:28,240 » Okay. 367 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,030 >> So 368 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:29,040 » So 369 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,590 >> uh and then one final question on the 370 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:31,600 » uh and then one final question on the 371 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,320 existing rightway if that's vacated who 372 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,240 takes ownership of that then what what 373 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,560 happens? 374 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,949 >> Uh 50% goes to the north 50% goes to the 375 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:40,959 » Uh 50% goes to the north 50% goes to the 376 00:11:40,959 --> 00:11:43,200 the south property line or property 377 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:43,839 owners. 378 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:45,910 >> Okay. All right. That's all I have for 379 00:11:45,910 --> 00:11:45,920 » Okay. All right. That's all I have for 380 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,959 now. Thank you, 381 00:11:46,959 --> 00:11:49,829 >> Commissioner Lemire. 382 00:11:49,829 --> 00:11:49,839 » Commissioner Lemire. 383 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:52,470 >> I took a stroll over by this property 384 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:52,480 » I took a stroll over by this property 385 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,480 here a little bit this evening and when 386 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,360 I did I just the one thing that popped 387 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,920 out at me was the um electrical lines. 388 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,230 >> And so what sort of uh items would be a 389 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:06,240 » And so what sort of uh items would be a 390 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,720 hindrance for this conceptual plan in 391 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,279 relation to those electrical lines and 392 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:11,839 and 393 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:12,310 >> right 394 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:12,320 » right 395 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,389 >> what goes through there at this point in 396 00:12:14,389 --> 00:12:14,399 » what goes through there at this point in 397 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:16,399 time. Actually, that's one of the other 398 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:18,880 reasons why the realignment of 212 went 399 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,680 through because they would have had to 400 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:26,959 um either relocate those lines or 401 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:30,320 bury them or do some some other thing 402 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,360 with those lines. And that is a very 403 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,920 costly thing to do with those lines. Um 404 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,240 to the point where, you know, even 405 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,720 making this development work as is 406 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,600 tight. Um, but then you throw that on to 407 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,440 it, it just adds to that. Um, 408 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,509 >> but it's still doable with where those 409 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:49,519 » but it's still doable with where those 410 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:51,279 lines are at at this point in time and 411 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:52,800 what the development is looking like at 412 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,360 this point. 413 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,790 >> Right. 414 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,839 » So, [snorts] is there actually going to 415 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:00,399 be a road that can go through 210 then 416 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:05,670 >> or to like from Highway 3 to 210 417 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:05,680 » or to like from Highway 3 to 210 418 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,440 or like will 210 go all the way to 419 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,320 Highway 3 because of those lines? Not 420 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,079 because of those lines, but just because 421 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:14,720 of need for transportation connectivity 422 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,839 through the area. 423 00:13:15,839 --> 00:13:17,670 >> But those lines won't be a hindrance for 424 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:17,680 » But those lines won't be a hindrance for 425 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,160 that road to be developed later on down 426 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:20,639 the line. 427 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:21,030 >> Shouldn't. 428 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:21,040 » Shouldn't. 429 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,590 >> Sorry. Okay. 430 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:23,600 » Sorry. Okay. 431 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,030 >> Um, is there a need to expand that 210th 432 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:27,040 » Um, is there a need to expand that 210th 433 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,079 all the way west to Highway 3 or can it 434 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:33,839 come up Cambodia and have the entrances 435 00:13:33,839 --> 00:13:35,680 and exits through the current 436 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,104 development and Cambodia? 437 00:13:38,104 --> 00:13:38,150 >> [clears throat] 438 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:38,160 » [clears throat] 439 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,069 >> Well, you don't need the connection to 440 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:40,079 » Well, you don't need the connection to 441 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:43,040 Highway 3 to develop this okay 442 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,030 >> specific parcel. Um I think long term 443 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:47,040 » specific parcel. Um I think long term 444 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,800 the plan is to have it connect in. Um 445 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,600 but yeah, you we're not saying that you 446 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,880 need to have that connection with this 447 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,079 specific development. 448 00:13:58,079 --> 00:14:01,110 >> Okay. So with the entrance um through 449 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:01,120 » Okay. So with the entrance um through 450 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,800 Cambodia, 451 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,639 that would be sufficient enough at this 452 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,880 point in time for the development to 453 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,360 happen. Okay, that should be it for me. 454 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,949 >> Yeah, there there would be multiple ways 455 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:10,959 » Yeah, there there would be multiple ways 456 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:12,800 in and out. You could have Cambodia and 457 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,720 then you also have Cameron way to get in 458 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,320 and out. So, you have your multiple 459 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,160 accesses. 460 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,069 >> All right, thank you Nate. And I'll ask 461 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:20,079 » All right, thank you Nate. And I'll ask 462 00:14:20,079 --> 00:14:22,240 a few questions then I'll touch a little 463 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,320 more on what Nate was getting at but and 464 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,880 what others did too. But um and this 465 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,560 might be a question for Chris or Pat or 466 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,560 I would ask Tim this if he were here. 467 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,519 Now Tony laid out several road projects 468 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:34,880 that kind of he's right in your 469 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,199 checkbook for you. 470 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:40,800 Are is you as the property owner, Pat or 471 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Chris as the engineer, 472 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,440 is is that going to fly with this 473 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,480 project? 474 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,389 >> I mean, there's some significant road to 475 00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:48,399 » I mean, there's some significant road to 476 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:49,680 build here. 477 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,430 >> Yeah. So, I assume you're talking about 478 00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:51,440 » Yeah. So, I assume you're talking about 479 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,680 paving uh Cambodia. 480 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,310 >> Paving Cambodia. And also the, you know, 481 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:56,320 » Paving Cambodia. And also the, you know, 482 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,160 the other stuff. Yeah. 483 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,750 >> I mean, that's that's some significant 484 00:14:59,750 --> 00:14:59,760 » I mean, that's that's some significant 485 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:00,720 roads. 486 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,350 >> There's more. 487 00:15:01,350 --> 00:15:01,360 » There's more. 488 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,150 >> Two10. 489 00:15:02,150 --> 00:15:02,160 » Two10. 490 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,590 >> Two10th. Yeah. 491 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:03,600 » Two10th. Yeah. 492 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,230 >> Among others. I mean it's it's you got a 493 00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:06,240 » Among others. I mean it's it's you got a 494 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,160 number of town houses here but yeah 495 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,670 >> I mean you got some road construction to 496 00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:09,680 » I mean you got some road construction to 497 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,760 do. Are you okay with that? 498 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,725 >> Are you okay with this question? 499 00:15:13,725 --> 00:15:13,735 » Are you okay with this question? 500 00:15:13,735 --> 00:15:14,959 [clears throat and laughter] 501 00:15:14,959 --> 00:15:16,550 >> Then I'll get into the reason why in a 502 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:16,560 » Then I'll get into the reason why in a 503 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,079 little bit and explain to the 504 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:18,480 commission. 505 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,230 >> It's a good question. I have the same 506 00:15:20,230 --> 00:15:20,240 » It's a good question. I have the same 507 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:20,959 question. 508 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:21,590 >> Okay. 509 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:21,600 » Okay. 510 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,990 >> Uh and I wanted to react if I could. Um 511 00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:26,000 » Uh and I wanted to react if I could. Um 512 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,720 the road termination points of the new 513 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,800 210th if you could call it that. this 514 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,839 relocated 210th and the and Cambodia. 515 00:15:35,839 --> 00:15:39,040 Uh, as as I stand here now, I think 516 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,880 we're going to want to try to minimize 517 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,639 the length of those roads on I don't 518 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:47,600 know how I point, but uh 519 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,189 >> on the on the west end here, I don't 520 00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:51,199 » on the on the west end here, I don't 521 00:15:51,199 --> 00:15:53,120 envision that we would want to put a 522 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,399 road next to the neighbor's sideyard. I 523 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:58,320 think we'd want to connect directly to 524 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,519 Cambodia and just make it kind of 525 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:02,550 >> Cameron way. I'm sorry. 526 00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:02,560 » Cameron way. I'm sorry. 527 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,069 >> So maybe end it like right here. 528 00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:04,079 » So maybe end it like right here. 529 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:06,629 >> Yeah. And just just connect here. Those 530 00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:06,639 » Yeah. And just just connect here. Those 531 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:10,399 those power poles are they're a main 532 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:12,639 line from Great River Energy. We've been 533 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:16,000 involved in this area in with wearing 534 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,720 multiple hats for 25 30 years now. And 535 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,079 the same question I have is what Mr. 536 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:27,040 Rod's asking. What would be the the 537 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,440 final condition on the east end at 538 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,360 Cambodia and the new 210th? In in my 539 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,800 view, we would just connect them and 540 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,720 maybe extend long enough to do a 541 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,519 turnaround. I don't think we would be 542 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:43,839 interested in building a culde-sac or 543 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:45,920 anything like that because emergency 544 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,600 vehicles would be able to connect and 545 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,240 make a loop through the the new 210th 546 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,800 Street. the history here. Uh, 547 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,920 I bought the property to the east of to 548 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,759 the west of here where the bus terminal 549 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:06,480 is was and where it was the Dakota 550 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,520 electric pole yard prior to that and 551 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,480 there was a a railroad right away that 552 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,480 went through there and then I 553 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,600 um needed more land and there was a very 554 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,959 large multi- uh single family 555 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:25,280 development that was going to take up 556 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 a few hundred acres and a few hundred 557 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,039 homes to the east of us that was being 558 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:33,360 proposed by one of these big developers 559 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:36,640 during the the boom in the '9s. And so 560 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,000 the city and I made an agreement to 561 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,880 allow for an easement to create that 562 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,440 210th Street connection from from 563 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Highway 3 all the way to the east end of 564 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,960 my property that the bus terminal was 565 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,360 involved in. And the question about 566 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:59,280 210th Street uh was always there for me 567 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,520 in the future because these this big 568 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,160 development that never occurred was the 569 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,480 driving force. So in that easement 570 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,400 agreement that we have with the city, I 571 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,440 traded the easement and the city gave me 572 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,919 the lot over in the in the uh new 573 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:19,280 Farmington Industrial Park that is now 574 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,520 uh I developed it. I moved a building 575 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,360 over there. We had buses parked there 576 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,559 and I've since sold it to another user. 577 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:28,400 Um 578 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,880 that's on 579 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,880 208th Street I think. 580 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,430 >> Yeah. 581 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:33,440 » Yeah. 582 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,750 >> And uh so we were able to expand our 583 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:37,760 » And uh so we were able to expand our 584 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,880 operation. The city got the easement. 585 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,360 Part of that agreement provides that uh 586 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,720 this property I retained 587 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,760 does not would not be subject to any 588 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,840 assessment if a road is ever built. And 589 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,200 it's such a long stretch. I think it's 590 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,200 would that be 1,800 ft? I think it's a 591 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,200 from here to here. It's it's a long long 592 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,880 road and uh would never be economically 593 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,799 feasible for our property because of 594 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:13,360 this triangular shape that was formed by 595 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,320 the railroad originally. The same thing 596 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,840 applies on this 597 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,240 small parcel that we got we were 598 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,039 involved in the Sunrise Ponds 599 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,600 development when that was built and then 600 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,240 Mr. Giles and then it then it got hit 601 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,640 hard in the downturn. We foreclosed on 602 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,039 the property. That's I'm wearing my 603 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:36,640 banker's hat now when I'm talking about 604 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,160 that. And those were tough times and I 605 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,640 along with the bank and Mr. Giles came 606 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,679 in and and were able to replplat this 607 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:50,000 part of Sunrise, the the part of the 608 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Sunrise Ponds that's existing and but we 609 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,039 couldn't come to an agreement on what to 610 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:57,919 do with uh with this parcel we're 611 00:19:57,919 --> 00:20:00,960 looking at today and because of the 612 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,280 210th Street 613 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,280 uh condition was just too much to invest 614 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,679 on such small lots if they were going to 615 00:20:09,679 --> 00:20:12,160 be single family. So the the ability to 616 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,679 relocate 617 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,640 210th Street and it's a 50- foot Yep. 618 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,470 >> right away makes this at at all 619 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:20,480 » right away makes this at at all 620 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,400 financially feasible. And the fact that 621 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,280 we can get 32 units in here, there are a 622 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,640 lot of other similar products in the 623 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,640 market nearby that we've tried to 624 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,799 emulate here that have been built by 625 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,600 multiple builders and developers. So, 626 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,520 and we've got the waterfront which we 627 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,400 think is going to be an attraction. So, 628 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,640 uh, 629 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,679 long answer to your short but pertinent 630 00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:49,360 question about does this work 631 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:51,919 financially. We think it does under this 632 00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:54,340 relocated road design. There 633 00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:55,520 [clears throat] was an earlier question 634 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,120 if I could respond to the idea of the 635 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:02,400 vacation of the existing 210 street 636 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,280 rightway. I think that's an open 637 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,240 question. There is you can see a trail 638 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,320 there was the base of that road was 639 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,919 installed because there are some 640 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:16,080 utilities in that line also. So I think 641 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,640 it's worthy of further study and 642 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,440 consideration. The basically the the 643 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,440 base for the bike trail if you wanted 644 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,919 one is there and who owns it. The city 645 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:29,919 could take an easement or take ownership 646 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:31,120 of a 647 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:32,630 >> or you could just leave it as right of 648 00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:32,640 » or you could just leave it as right of 649 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,039 way. We could leave leave it as right of 650 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:35,830 >> An option. 651 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:35,840 » An option. 652 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,669 >> You can see in the photos the neighbors 653 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:37,679 » You can see in the photos the neighbors 654 00:21:37,679 --> 00:21:42,159 are using part of the the the 210 street 655 00:21:42,159 --> 00:21:43,760 right ofway which is natural. There's 656 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,840 nothing else going on back there and it 657 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,600 hasn't bothered us. It's not our right 658 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,360 away. 659 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,799 Um but there's there is enough extra 660 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,679 space between the right of way and these 661 00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:58,159 little pockets for for drainage or if we 662 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:00,480 wanted to plant a grove of trees and 663 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,559 that kind of thing. I I think it would 664 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:04,799 fit in well. And I was going to refer to 665 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:07,120 the little tot lot that was part of that 666 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:09,760 Sunrise Ponds. It's just off of the map 667 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,280 on the on the corner. 668 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,070 >> Okay. 669 00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:12,080 » Okay. 670 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,390 >> Um 671 00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:14,400 » Um 672 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,200 so we'd have to be thoughtful about this 673 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,559 the final road design and if we start 674 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,720 stretching out the road, it could end up 675 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,760 being a a problem for the for the uh 676 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,640 the development and the power poles. We 677 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,799 did investigate the cost to relocate or 678 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,840 bury those. They're are they 150 ft 679 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,000 high? They're they're 680 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,149 >> transmission. They're It wouldn't be 681 00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:42,159 » transmission. They're It wouldn't be 682 00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:44,070 >> many many many many hundreds of thousand 683 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:44,080 » many many many many hundreds of thousand 684 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:44,320 dollars. 685 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,990 >> It wouldn't be cheap for you. So, 686 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:46,000 » It wouldn't be cheap for you. So, 687 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,270 >> so it wasn't 688 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:47,280 » so it wasn't 689 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,750 >> okay 690 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:47,760 » okay 691 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,110 >> feasible. 692 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:49,120 » feasible. 693 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:49,990 >> Well, thanks Pat. 694 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:50,000 » Well, thanks Pat. 695 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,510 >> Any other questions? No, I just want to 696 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:51,520 » Any other questions? No, I just want to 697 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,840 follow up then to Nate and uh what's 698 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,520 going on and and as we go through our 699 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,120 comp plan, we'll do a transportation 700 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,440 section and things like this row and 701 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 stuff will be shown and and discussed 702 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,120 further and why and then what I wanted 703 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,200 you alluded to it and and why I brought 704 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,240 it up and wanted to ask cost first is 705 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,480 is we don't want to leave roads to be 706 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,080 built by our taxpayers. you know, if 707 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,520 there's a development that's going on, 708 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,960 and you guys understand as you've been 709 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840 in this business, um, one time in my 710 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000 career, years and years ago, 30 some 711 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,320 years ago, we didn't make a developer do 712 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,240 it, and then the next one came back, and 713 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,400 then he he or she or they had to in 714 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,000 essence pay for it or find means to pay 715 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480 for it. and and so we do in this 716 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,400 community and others too, I'm sure Chris 717 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,919 you've been working with them kind of 718 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:43,919 require as a development goes they they 719 00:23:43,919 --> 00:23:47,120 pay for the roads. Um and that's why I 720 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,480 thought it was pertinent. I just want to 721 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,240 let the other commissioners know why why 722 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,760 we're doing it rather than letting our 723 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,159 taxpayers foot the bill for, you know, 724 00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:55,200 the road that's going in front of 725 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,640 somebody else's. Yeah. When it comes to 726 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,400 maintenance in the future, everybody 727 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,720 contributes to road maintenance, but new 728 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280 construction is that of the developer. 729 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,320 So, I just had a few others. Um 730 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,880 Tony um you know this you listed all the 731 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,640 different things comp plan um reszone uh 732 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,679 land use time frame as we're working 733 00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:17,679 through a comp plan. Can this be tied 734 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:19,440 into it or are you thinking this is 735 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,000 something that um is going to be an 736 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,360 exception too or what what are your 737 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:24,320 thoughts on that? 738 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,990 >> It certainly could be tied into that um 739 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:28,000 » It certainly could be tied into that um 740 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,520 you know obviously the comprehensive 741 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,080 plan um takes a a number of years. Uh 742 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,919 we're looking probably a year and a half 743 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:40,880 out um for that to be approved. Um you 744 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,480 know, I know we've had this conversation 745 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,200 on a number of different parcels. 746 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,630 >> Um 747 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,600 it could be tied to that or, you know, 748 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,720 we certainly could um or they could 749 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,039 apply and at that point we'd have to 750 00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:58,880 make a decision one way or the other. 751 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,269 >> Yeah. 752 00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:59,279 » Yeah. 753 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:00,630 >> Um at that time. 754 00:25:00,630 --> 00:25:00,640 » Um at that time. 755 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,390 >> Sure. and and you know, you're going to 756 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:02,400 » Sure. and and you know, you're going to 757 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,600 have a lot of discussions. Pat brought 758 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,360 up some great questions that I think 759 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,400 still need to be talked discussed with 760 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,279 staff. Um things that the commission 761 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,360 doesn't decide. Uh Pat, um things that 762 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:16,799 you know, the staff will bring a 763 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:18,559 recommendation. Most likely a lot of 764 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,559 that would be finalized with our city 765 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:21,440 council. 766 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:21,909 >> Sure. 767 00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:21,919 » Sure. 768 00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:23,590 >> But you know, we certainly uh will see 769 00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:23,600 » But you know, we certainly uh will see 770 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,760 it in the future if it does come. And 771 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,200 the last thing I wanted to mention and 772 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,279 and I say this as much for the 773 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,679 commission but is developers certainly 774 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,520 know this but when we have two different 775 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600 zoning districts 776 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,159 we always like a buffer. Um you know 50 777 00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:40,720 foot road right away with the road in 778 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,080 there to me I I I think would suffice as 779 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,320 a buffer. Um I think that Tony you 780 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,919 alluded to that in there. Maybe you 781 00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:49,200 didn't say it, but I think that's why 782 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,640 you said there's a road in between, 783 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,110 >> right? 784 00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:51,120 » right? 785 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,110 >> Single family and the multi 786 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:53,120 » Single family and the multi 787 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,029 >> and the actual right ofway for 210 788 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:55,039 » and the actual right ofway for 210 789 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,360 that's in between. Um I believe that's 790 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:00,640 either an 80 I think it's an 80 foot 80. 791 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:00,960 Okay. 792 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,310 >> So it's it's it's a 70 793 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:04,320 » So it's it's it's a 70 794 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,630 >> 70. Okay. It's either 70 or 80. 795 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:06,640 » 70. Okay. It's either 70 or 80. 796 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,110 >> All right. 797 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:07,120 » All right. 798 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,870 >> So it's a substantial right. 799 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:08,880 » So it's a substantial right. 800 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,470 >> Yeah. And but I just want to make known 801 00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:10,480 » Yeah. And but I just want to make known 802 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,039 then for the the newer commissioners 803 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,960 that you know we always do look for some 804 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,200 kind of buffer. If this was backyard to 805 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,880 backyard, we'd say, "Hey, let's think 806 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,960 about this a little more." But when you 807 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,440 got, you know, 70 80 feet in there, are 808 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,679 you guys okay with that as a buffer 809 00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:27,760 transit? I I call it a buffer some 810 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,559 transition maybe a better term. But uh 811 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,039 so that you know you don't because you 812 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:34,159 know I don't know these people that 813 00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:36,000 bought these lots you know when they did 814 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,520 at their backyard what you know they 815 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,760 were backing up to what they assumed 816 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320 would be single family not and I don't 817 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,720 know if town houses are are any 818 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,799 different but you know that's just what 819 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:47,919 their assumption was when they bought 820 00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:50,159 the lot with the house. So 821 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:52,070 >> that's why I mentioned that I really 822 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:52,080 » that's why I mentioned that I really 823 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,760 don't have an issue you know I think 824 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,039 it's a fine use for the piece of 825 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,679 property. Um I think you can make it 826 00:26:57,679 --> 00:26:59,200 work if you can do it financially. 827 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,279 That's why I brought that up. But that's 828 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,000 not my job. It's your job to to, you 829 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,600 know, crunch the numbers on that and 830 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,679 work with staff. Work with Tony. He'll 831 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:09,760 direct you to the right people in and 832 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,840 the city to to talk with and deal with. 833 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,520 So, I actually I kind of like the 834 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520 concept. It's it's a useful piece of 835 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,360 land. Somebody mentioned the frontage of 836 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,679 the water. I think I think that would if 837 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:23,919 you sight them right, I think that'd be 838 00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:27,120 a great amenity for some of those uh you 839 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,919 know, the back ones. I really do. 840 00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:31,110 >> We think so, too. 841 00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:31,120 » We think so, too. 842 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,909 >> Yeah. Yeah. I think that it would be 843 00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:33,919 » Yeah. Yeah. I think that it would be 844 00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:36,080 nice lots there. So, 845 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,430 >> I don't have anything else. Tony, how 846 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:37,440 » I don't have anything else. Tony, how 847 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,960 about you? 848 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,830 >> No. Um, 849 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:39,840 » No. Um, 850 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,630 >> okay. 851 00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:40,640 » okay. 852 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,190 >> At this time, 853 00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:41,200 » At this time, 854 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,190 >> I'd like to add that it's our intention 855 00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:43,200 » I'd like to add that it's our intention 856 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,960 if we have to go through the cup 857 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,320 amendment, we would make that 858 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,279 application as soon as we feel confident 859 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:51,919 we can go ahead and a year and a half 860 00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:53,919 wouldn't wouldn't work. 861 00:27:53,919 --> 00:27:55,269 >> That's why I asked that's why I asked 862 00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:55,279 » That's why I asked that's why I asked 863 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,200 Tony that same question. I I didn't know 864 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,880 your timing, but now you've told us your 865 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,200 timing. 866 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,350 >> Yeah, we if we have to put in the that 867 00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:01,360 » Yeah, we if we have to put in the that 868 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,240 application to get that amendment to 869 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,640 this land, we do have plans we're 870 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,039 working on for the bus terminal property 871 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:09,760 also. 872 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,310 >> Okay. 873 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:10,320 » Okay. 874 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,070 >> That's impacted by the the big uh um by 875 00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:14,080 » That's impacted by the the big uh um by 876 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,399 the same road right away and the staff's 877 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:19,520 been flexible and open to some ideas on 878 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,440 the width of that easement and that kind 879 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,880 of thing. We're talking about garage 880 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,840 condos probably because of the the big 881 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,760 uh warehouse to the south of us and uh 882 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,279 we don't think it's going to work very 883 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:33,279 well for residential because of that. 884 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,159 That's a so it's but it is a nice 885 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:38,399 transition. We've got the the holiday to 886 00:28:38,399 --> 00:28:39,600 the north. 887 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,350 >> You know, Pat, if you were talking 160 888 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:41,360 » You know, Pat, if you were talking 160 889 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,720 acres and I've been pretty vocal on 890 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,080 this, I'd say, you know, then then I'd 891 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,240 ask you, can you wait? But you're not 892 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,159 talking 160 acres. you're talking the 893 00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:52,000 smaller concept plan here. 894 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,830 >> Um, 895 00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:53,840 » Um, 896 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,520 I think it's doable. I think I don't 897 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,960 know what other you'd use the land for. 898 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,799 I mean, if you came in with a different 899 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,080 use, maybe we'd have a different 900 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,039 question, but this this would work here. 901 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,120 I believe I don't, you know, I leave it 902 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,640 up to the other commissioners if they 903 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120 don't agree. But, um, I think our city 904 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,520 council, you know, would think it's a 905 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,880 nice addition to the area, but that's up 906 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,480 to them, not to me. I think it makes 907 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,480 good use of the the regional pond that 908 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,960 was built there since we owned the 909 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,279 property that we can turn it into an 910 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:24,880 amenity. These aren't these are going to 911 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 be houses that'll that'll fit a broad 912 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,240 economic market. They'll be available to 913 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480 a lot of people. I don't want to use 914 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,789 >> certain words that means certain things 915 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:34,799 » certain words that means certain things 916 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,320 to other people, but they're these are 917 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,240 going to be houses that a lot of people 918 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,080 should be able to be interested in and 919 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,399 it be affordable and and uh but 920 00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:47,039 and again, we did look at other projects 921 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,360 in 922 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,679 other other communities nearby and and 923 00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:53,039 tried to model those. They look like 924 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,279 they're they're moving pretty well and 925 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:57,120 uh so 926 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,200 we want to 927 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,720 get it done. We've had it long enough. 928 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,200 We've got to make make something happen 929 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,120 here. So, we appreciate it. 930 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,630 >> We got everybody involved. Did you have 931 00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:06,640 » We got everybody involved. Did you have 932 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,320 anything to add? 933 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,950 >> Nothing. All right. All right. Anything 934 00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:10,960 » Nothing. All right. All right. Anything 935 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,559 else from staff? You got Do you guys 936 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:14,240 have enough Pat? Chris, you have enough 937 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,990 to go on from here? Deal with Tony. Not 938 00:30:16,990 --> 00:30:18,080 [laughter] 939 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,510 >> this has been helpful. Thank you. 940 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:19,520 » this has been helpful. Thank you. 941 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,789 >> All right. Yeah, I got a lot of good 942 00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:20,799 » All right. Yeah, I got a lot of good 943 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:21,840 questions, I thought, from the 944 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,399 commission. They they did a nice job. 945 00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,789 >> All right, Tony. Anything else, 946 00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:26,799 » All right, Tony. Anything else, 947 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,310 >> uh, not on this? No. 948 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:28,320 » uh, not on this? No. 949 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,669 >> All right. Do you have anything else? 950 00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:29,679 » All right. Do you have anything else? 951 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:31,350 >> I was just going to mention our uh 952 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:31,360 » I was just going to mention our uh 953 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,679 meeting in uh September will also be uh 954 00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:40,480 on Wednesday as well. Um just so you're 955 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,480 aware um due to uh the holiday and then 956 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,960 the city council meeting being pushed to 957 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,720 the Tuesday where we would typically 958 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,120 have our meeting. So just wanted to make 959 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,720 you aware of that again. So 960 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,470 >> perfect. And I'll just remind them our 961 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:54,480 » perfect. And I'll just remind them our 962 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,919 next regular meeting is September 9th 963 00:30:55,919 --> 00:30:58,159 and it is a Wednesday and Tony will do a 964 00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:00,080 nice job of emailing us and reminding us 965 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,080 so nobody absolutely Wednesday night. If 966 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,440 you are you can sit through the council 967 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,039 meeting [laughter] with that I'd look 968 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,200 for a motion to adjurnn. 969 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,149 >> A motion. 970 00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:08,159 » A motion. 971 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:09,510 >> We have a motion. Is there a second? 972 00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:09,520 » We have a motion. Is there a second? 973 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:09,990 >> Second. 974 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:10,000 » Second. 975 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,070 >> Motion a second. All in favor say I. 976 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:12,080 » Motion a second. All in favor say I. 977 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,549 >> I. 978 00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:12,559 » I. 979 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:13,750 >> We're officially adjourned. Thank you 980 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:13,760 » We're officially adjourned. Thank you 981 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:24,446 everybody. 982 00:31:24,456 --> 00:31:26,476 » [music]