[2:31] If y
[2:32] all give us just a minute.
[2:34] Oh, there we go. All right, so
[2:35] we will. We
[2:37] ll call our AUGUST
[2:38] 24th meeting to order. We
[2:39] welcome those who join us in
[2:40] the audience, those who will
[2:46] also, uh. Those who are also
[2:48] joining us remote. We welcome
[2:50] you at this time, as with every
[2:51] meeting, we would like to start
[2:53] with our invocation and prayer.
[2:54] We have Apostle APRIL Hightower
[2:56] of the New Salem International
[2:57] Ministries. Apostle Hightower,
[2:58] if you would, if we could
[3:00] please stand for the prayer
[3:01] immediately following. If we
[3:02] could repeat the Pledge of
[3:07] Allegiance.
[3:09] Gracious father, we paused at
[3:10] the beginning of this gathering
[3:12] to recognize the
[3:14] responsibilities, duties, and
[3:16] assignment given to our mayor
[3:18] and the City Council. MAY those
[3:19] who serve in this chamber be
[3:21] guided by wisdom, integrity,
[3:23] fairness, and courage. Give
[3:24] them the ability to listen
[3:26] carefully. Consider diverse
[3:27] perspectives, and make
[3:29] decisions with the well-being
[3:30] of our entire community in
[3:32] mind. MAY they remember that
[3:33] behind every policy and every
[3:36] decision, our people, families,
[3:38] children, seniors, veterans,
[3:39] workers, business owners,
[3:41] students, neighbors, and
[3:43] individuals from many cultures,
[3:44] backgrounds, and traditions
[3:46] that rely on their decision
[3:47] making ability to enhance the
[3:49] future of our great city. Help
[3:51] us to build a city where every
[3:52] person is treated with dignity
[3:54] and respect, where differences
[3:55] do not divide us, but broaden
[3:57] our understanding where
[3:58] opportunity is pursued with
[3:59] fairness and where compassion
[4:01] guides our response to those
[4:03] who are experiencing
[4:04] difficulty. Grant our elected
[4:06] leaders patience when
[4:07] challenges are difficult,
[4:09] humility when perspectives
[4:10] differ, and wisdom to seek
[4:12] common ground without
[4:13] compromising the principle of
[4:15] justice and human dignity that
[4:17] represents our creator. Your
[4:19] word reminds us to seek wisdom,
[4:20] to pursue justice, to love
[4:22] mercy, and to walk humbly. MAY
[4:24] those principles guide the work
[4:25] that takes place in this
[4:26] chamber on today, that
[4:28] contribute to a safer,
[4:29] stronger, compassionate
[4:31] and united Fayetteville. Bless
[4:32] the mayor, the city council,
[4:34] city officials, employees, and
[4:36] all who contribute to the life
[4:37] and future of our community.
[4:39] Give them clarity when
[4:40] decisions are difficult
[4:42] patients, when opinions differ,
[4:43] and discernment to recognize
[4:45] solutions that strengthen the
[4:47] entire community and everything
[4:48] we give you thanks and praise
[4:51] with gratitude. Humbleness for
[4:52] the opportunity to serve your
[4:54] people with hope for the future
[4:55] of our city. MAY we move
[4:57] forward together in peace. In
[4:58] your name. We prayerfully
[5:00] submit this petition on behalf
[5:02] of our leaders as we trust you
[5:04] throughout this process. Amen.
[5:04] Amen.
[5:05] Very good.
[5:07] I pledge allegiance to.
[5:08] The flag..
[5:10] United States of. America and
[5:12] to the Republic for which it
[5:13] stands.
[5:16] One nation under GOD,
[5:18] indivisible, with liberty and
[5:19] justice for all.
[5:21] Pastor Hightower, thank you for
[5:22] that wonderful prayer. I have
[5:24] known you for a long time.
[5:24] You
[5:26] re doing great work in your
[5:27] ministry on Murchison Road with
[5:29] the after school care and some
[5:30] of the other things that you
[5:30] re
[5:31] doing, tell the audience a
[5:32] little bit about yourself and
[5:33] your ministry.
[5:35] Yes, sir. My name is Apostle
[5:38] APRIL Hightower. I bring you
[5:39] greetings on behalf of New
[5:41] Salem International Ministries,
[5:44] located at 4006 Murchison Road,
[5:45] right here in the GOD Bless
[5:46] City of Fayetteville, North
[5:48] Carolina. The focus and purpose
[5:50] of our ministry is to teach
[5:51] biblical principles and
[5:52] strategies that
[5:53] s going to
[5:54] challenge you to change in
[5:55] order to improve your quality
[5:58] of life and for specific areas,
[5:59] spiritual growth, community and
[6:01] economic development, housing,
[6:03] as well as educational
[6:05] excellence. On this weekend,
[6:07] our community and we are
[6:08] inviting the entire city of
[6:09] Fayetteville to come out. We
[6:10] re
[6:11] having a Community Giveback
[6:13] Back to School program, where
[6:13] we
[6:15] re going to have free
[6:15] haircuts. We
[6:16] re giving away
[6:17] school supplies. We
[6:17] re also
[6:19] giving away food, clothing, and
[6:20] we
[6:22] re also going to have, um,
[6:24] information concerning our
[6:25] upcoming private school, New
[6:27] Salem Christian Academy, that
[6:29] will be opened up in the 2027,
[6:31] 2028 school year. So we
[6:31] ll be
[6:32] giving our information
[6:34] concerning that. So you all are
[6:35] welcome to come if you
[6:35] re not
[6:37] busy this Saturday from 10 to
[6:38] 3.
[6:39] Alright. Thank you. Can we give
[6:41] Pastor Hightower, Pastor
[6:41] Hightower around.
[6:45] The floor? Pastor.
[6:46] Apostle Hightower.
[6:49] What time would that be?
[6:50] 10:00 to 3:00.
[6:51] Ten. Okay. All right.
[6:53] All right. Well, thank you so
[6:54] much, Apostle. Thank you for
[6:55] that wonderful prayer. Uh,
[6:58] Council, as we move to the next
[7:01] item, we have the
[7:02] announcements. I will go to
[7:04] Council Member Jones.
[7:05] Thank you, MR. Mayor. I just
[7:07] want to take a few moments to
[7:10] acknowledge my other half. Um,
[7:11] she started a journey with me
[7:13] right after undergraduate
[7:15] school. She was a Winston-Salem
[7:16] state ram. I was a Fayetteville
[7:17] State Bronco. Didn
[7:17] t hold that
[7:20] against her. Uh, but she. I
[7:22] decided to to marry this young
[7:24] man at the time. So I
[7:24] m excited
[7:26] to just share that on this
[7:27] Friday, we will be celebrating
[7:30] our 28th wedding anniversary.
[7:31] So I love you, honey. Just
[7:32] wanted to let you know that.
[7:37] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[7:39] Your smart man, sir. Uh,
[7:40] COUNCILMAN Here.
[7:42] Thank you. Mayor. Uh, I would
[7:46] like to reiterate from. I was
[7:47] trying to get it all on on my
[7:48] kid. Yeah. I just want
[7:51] reiterate from last week that,
[7:53] um, this weekend, that
[7:57] Saturday, the 29th, from 10
[8:00] A.M. To 3 P.M., we will be
[8:03] having the 34th annual Youth
[8:05] Mojo Festival that will be in
[8:08] the, um, Smith or Seabrook
[8:11] Park, and we hope that you will
[8:12] come out there and enjoy the
[8:13] unity time and bring your
[8:13] family. It
[8:14] s going to be a big
[8:16] day of food trucks, and you can
[8:17] get your blood pressure
[8:19] checked. And just a whole lot
[8:21] of great health and fun times.
[8:23] And for those of you that have
[8:25] not, uh, registered to vote,
[8:26] you will also have an
[8:30] opportunity to do that with the
[8:33] naacp, naacp, they they will
[8:36] have a table in partnership
[8:38] with, uh, uh, a Omega Psi Phi
[8:39] fraternity, the Beta Chi
[8:41] chapter. We look forward for
[8:43] you coming out and stopping at
[8:44] our table. Thank you. Mayor.
[8:46] Yes, sir. All right, COUNCILMAN
[8:48] Davis. Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[8:49] I just wanted to announce that,
[8:51] uh, Fayetteville is very own
[8:52] Fayetteville. Cumberland Youth
[8:53] Council is having a member
[8:56] interest meeting on SEPTEMBER
[8:59] 3rd, um, from 6:30 P.M. To 8
[9:00] P.M.. Uh, any ninth through
[9:01] 12th graders who are interested
[9:04] in being a voice for your, um,
[9:06] age demographic. Please join
[9:07] them at the Federal Youth
[9:10] Council office at 725 West
[9:12] Rowan Street on SEPTEMBER 3rd,
[9:14] from 630 to 8 P.M.. Thank you,
[9:14] MR. Mayor.
[9:17] Thank you. Um, all right,
[9:18] counselor, seeing no other
[9:19] announcements, I moved 5.0. The
[9:20] city manager
[9:21] s report. Mr.
[9:23] Hewitt.
[9:25] Uh. Thank you, thank you.
[9:25] Mayor.
[9:28] Um, two quick announcements.
[9:29] And both of them are very
[9:31] positive. Um, on this past
[9:32] Wednesday, the Fayetteville
[9:33] Fire Department traveled to
[9:35] Chicago and earned the
[9:37] international accreditation
[9:38] from the Commission on Fire
[9:40] Accreditation International for
[9:42] the fourth time. So if we
[9:43] could, Chief Dove, if you. And
[9:45] when you come up and give your
[9:46] presentation as well, if you
[9:47] could tell the council more
[9:50] about that. But this, uh, the
[9:51] accreditation is a process of
[9:53] self-assessment verified
[9:54] through peer review. And our
[9:56] Fayetteville Fire Department is
[9:58] one of only 127 fire
[10:00] departments on the planet. Wow.
[10:03] To carry the iso class one and
[10:04] internationally accredited
[10:05] recognition. So if.
[10:10] You could. Thank you.
[10:11] Outstanding.
[10:13] The other quick announcement
[10:15] is, um, this past weekend has
[10:17] also been very instrumental as
[10:19] well. Our assistant clerk,
[10:22] Paula Hanbury, um, received her
[10:23] North Carolina certified
[10:26] Municipal Clerk certification.
[10:27] Uh, the certification
[10:29] recognizes municipal clerks
[10:30] have completed over a year
[10:31] professional education and
[10:32] training focused on knowledge
[10:34] and skills essential to
[10:35] effectively serve their
[10:37] communities and pass the
[10:38] required exams. The
[10:39] certification reflects the
[10:41] commitment to professional
[10:42] excellence, continuous
[10:43] learning, and the highest
[10:45] standards of Municipal Clerk
[10:46] Service. So MISS Hamburg.
[10:50] , Paula.
[10:50] That
[10:51] s all sir.
[10:53] All right. Thank you.
[10:55] Congratulations again to Chief
[10:56] Dove and our great fire
[10:57] department. I know we look
[10:57] forward to hearing your
[10:59] presentation tonight, but thank
[11:02] you. Uh, as outstanding, uh, of
[11:04] 127 on the planet. So that
[11:04] s
[11:06] huge. So we thank you. And the
[11:07] hard work that you all do every
[11:08] day. And MISS Paula, certainly
[11:10] atulate you, uh, for
[11:11] your credentials and all the
[11:13] city employees. We have a very
[11:15] hard working, dedicated and
[11:16] qualified team, uh, that work
[11:18] hard day in and day out. A lot
[11:18] of you don
[11:20] t see, uh, all the
[11:22] work that they do behind the
[11:23] scenes to keep the city
[11:24] running. But we thank each and
[11:27] every one of you. So, um, so
[11:28] with that, council will move to
[11:30] the approval of the agenda item
[11:30] 6.0. I
[11:32] ll entertain a motion to
[11:32] approve. We
[11:33] ll use our systems
[11:34] as a motion by Councilmember
[11:36] Hair. Is there a second?
[11:37] Second. All right. We
[11:38] re going
[11:38] to use our short. I heard
[11:40] Councilmember McNair down here.
[11:41] All right. So.
[11:42] Uh.
[11:42] Trying to get it..
[11:44] Any any discussion on the
[11:45] motion. All right. Council look
[11:46] to you for your votes to
[11:49] approve the agenda. All right,
[11:49] MADAM Clerk. It
[11:50] s unanimous.
[11:53] Moving to the consent items.
[11:57] Uh, we, uh, had a couple of, uh,
[12:00] consent item questions. Uh,
[12:04] think Councilmember Jones
[12:07] 7.085. I think. All right. And
[12:09] Council, if you could, uh, put
[12:11] a separate up or down on oh
[12:11] six. I know we
[12:12] ve had this was
[12:14] a continuation. Um, so if we
[12:15] could approve the agenda with
[12:18] those two items. COUNCILMAN
[12:19] Jones, uh, you want to make a
[12:19] motion?
[12:23] Yes. I move to approve the
[12:25] consent agenda. Agenda. With
[12:29] the exception of pulling 7.805
[12:30] and 7.806.
[12:31] All right.
[12:33] There, a second. Second, second
[12:35] by COUNCILMAN Davis. That
[12:35] s all
[12:35] I
[12:36] m sure. System. All right.
[12:38] Discussion on that. All right,
[12:39] counselor, look to you for your
[12:40] votes. This is approved with
[12:41] the exception of those two
[12:45] items. All right. Motion
[12:48] carries, uh, item 7.085. I
[12:48] ll
[12:50] go to you, Councilmember Jones.
[12:52] Thank you so much. Uh, just
[12:54] wanted to provide some clarity,
[12:56] uh, for the for the community
[12:58] in regards to this item. Uh, I
[12:59] am in support of it as it is
[13:01] written, uh, at this time. So I
[13:02] wanted to just provide some
[13:04] additional clarity. So what I
[13:05] want to do, I just want to
[13:06] recap my understanding and you
[13:08] can fill in the gaps. I don
[13:08] t
[13:09] want to take a lot of time. Uh,
[13:11] there were obviously some, some
[13:13] concerns from the community in
[13:15] regards to this particular, uh,
[13:17] rezoning. And so I just wanted
[13:18] to provide some information to
[13:20] address those. Uh, the first
[13:22] aspect of that, uh, it was
[13:24] originally planned to rezone
[13:29] again, about 123 acres from Lee
[13:31] to h. I. And part of that, uh,
[13:33] rezoning, per my understanding,
[13:36] was one, uh, addressing, uh,
[13:37] temporary storage. And then
[13:39] another aspect was some
[13:40] building, uh, modifications
[13:41] there. So those were two
[13:45] things. Uh, so the current, uh,
[13:46] recommendation, which was
[13:48] revised, which I again, I
[13:48] m in
[13:48] approval, I
[13:50] m in, um, agreement
[13:52] with is to reduce that
[13:56] rezoning, uh, down to 61 acres.
[13:58] And that would be for the area
[13:58] there where they
[13:59] re actually
[14:02] going to build the extension of
[14:03] the steel fab, uh,
[14:05] manufacturing. All right. In
[14:06] addition to that, there were
[14:07] some concerns with the Rose
[14:08] s
[14:10] Lake, uh, bed possibly being
[14:11] touched. And then there
[14:12] s a
[14:14] conservative, uh, conservation
[14:16] district out there. And then
[14:18] beyond that, there was a layer
[14:19] of trees there and just
[14:21] providing some visuals. Uh, so,
[14:22] as currently met, the Rose
[14:22] s
[14:24] Lake Lake bed will not be
[14:25] touched. The conservation
[14:26] district, they have agreed to
[14:29] keep that in place, uh, as
[14:30] Yes, COUNCILMAN. That
[14:31] s all
[14:31] correct.
[14:32] All right. And then thirdly,
[14:34] this should address the aspect
[14:36] of ownership. Uh, this isn
[14:36] t
[14:37] this isn
[14:38] t an odd, uh,
[14:39] situation. It
[14:39] s something that
[14:41] actually occurs very frequently
[14:42] within real estate, where if
[14:42] someone doesn
[14:44] t necessarily,
[14:46] uh, own a property, they can do
[14:49] an affirmation of an affidavit
[14:51] of ownership. Is that correct?
[14:52] Correct. That happens almost
[14:54] every rezoning. We do.
[14:54] Yes. And it
[14:55] s not just big
[14:56] organization, it
[14:56] s smaller
[14:57] ones. It
[14:58] s smaller businesses
[15:00] as well. And basically I just
[15:01] wanted the community know it
[15:01] s
[15:02] hey, I want to I
[15:03] m wanting to
[15:05] buy this land before I buy it.
[15:06] I want to make sure that I can
[15:08] do what I need to do with it.
[15:08] And it
[15:09] s no different than if I
[15:10] was opening a a salon or
[15:12] something, somewhere. I want to
[15:13] make sure that I can get that.
[15:15] So that had just been, uh, in
[15:17] place, uh, thirdly, fourthly,
[15:19] and the last aspect, part of a
[15:21] small portion of their
[15:23] operations, uh, would be moved
[15:26] from the front of Steel Fab,
[15:27] which is right there, located
[15:28] near one of my Whispering Pines
[15:30] community, uh, to the back. So
[15:32] that was a plus for this
[15:33] particular community. I
[15:33] ve,
[15:33] I
[15:36] ve spoken with, uh, those of,
[15:37] uh, Whispering Pines, and we
[15:39] just had our Hillandale West
[15:40] meeting as well. And I know
[15:42] some of the individuals, uh,
[15:44] did go to the zoning commission
[15:46] as well to voice their
[15:47] concerns. And so I just wanted
[15:48] to provide that. So if there
[15:48] s
[15:49] any aspects that I
[15:50] ve missed
[15:51] that would provide some
[15:53] clarity, uh, on some things, if
[15:54] you would do that, that, that
[15:55] would I would greatly
[15:56] appreciate it.
[15:57] I think, COUNCILMAN, you you
[15:59] covered it pretty well right
[16:00] there. I think you
[16:00] ve you
[16:00] ve
[16:02] been pretty much involved in
[16:04] this, uh, for a while. So, you
[16:05] know, well what
[16:06] s been going on
[16:08] and what the concerns are out
[16:09] there.
[16:10] Okay. All right. And, MR.
[16:10] Mayor, I
[16:12] ll be ready to make a
[16:12] motion.
[16:13] Yes, sir. It
[16:13] s on you.
[16:14] All right, so I
[16:15] m moved.
[16:19] To approve the. Amended map
[16:21] amendment to heavy industrial
[16:22] and retaining the current city
[16:24] area as presented on the
[16:25] evidence based submitted and
[16:27] findings that the rezoning is
[16:28] consistent with the future land
[16:30] use plan, as demonstrated by
[16:32] the attached consistency and
[16:34] reasonable statement.
[16:34] All right. Motion by
[16:36] Councilmember Jones looks like.
[16:39] Second by hair. Discussion. All
[16:40] right, counselor, look to you
[16:45] for your votes on oh five.
[16:47] Good question sir. Good
[16:48] questions.
[16:49] MADAM Clerk. Can we MISS..
[16:51] Council Member Ferguson.
[16:56] Pardon? What are you doing now?
[16:57] Okay. All right. Motion carries
[16:59] you. Thank you. All right.
[17:02] Thank you. Uh, 7.06 is a
[17:04] continuation of a special use
[17:08] permit. Um, that, uh, we heard
[17:10] a few weeks back, um, asked
[17:11] this item to be pulled for a
[17:14] separate vote. Um, special use
[17:16] permit just to our audience.
[17:18] Uh, are basically governed by,
[17:20] uh, state statute, which says
[17:22] that there are a number of
[17:24] findings of facts. Six in this
[17:26] case, um, that, uh, sworn
[17:31] testimony in, uh, uh, evidence,
[17:35] uh, either support or, uh, or
[17:37] do not support or build a case
[17:40] to support or not support, um,
[17:42] these findings and facts for
[17:43] counsel. So counsel wanted a
[17:45] separate vote for this for
[17:47] consent. Um, and uh, with that
[17:49] can entertain a motiono
[17:51] consider this item unless there
[17:52] were some further questions.
[17:53] COUNCILMAN Hondros.
[17:55] So move, MR. Mayor.
[17:56] Move to approve.
[17:56] All right. Motion by
[17:58] Councilmember Hondros. And that
[18:01] is to approve, sir. Yes. All
[18:02] right. And it
[18:02] s a it
[18:03] s a
[18:04] special use. Does he have to
[18:06] read these findings? Okay. All
[18:06] right. So the motion by
[18:08] COUNCILMAN Hondros, is there a
[18:10] second? Seconded by
[18:12] Councilmember Green. All right.
[18:13] Discussion. All right.
[18:14] Counselor, look to you for your
[18:21] votes. All right, MADAM Clerk.
[18:22] Motion carries seven three.
[18:25] Those voting oppose Thompson.
[18:28] Colvin, Davis. All right, all
[18:33] right. Moving to public hearing.
[18:37] Uh, at this time, we are
[18:38] preparing to hold a public
[18:39] hearing where the city council
[18:41] formally seeks your input.
[18:43] Individuals desiring to speak
[18:44] in the hearing. MR.. Signed up
[18:45] to speak with the city clerk by
[18:46] name and address before the
[18:47] start of tonight
[18:48] s meeting.
[18:48] We
[18:49] ll begin with the staff
[18:50] presentation. Then we
[18:50] ll move
[18:52] into the formal hearing. 15
[18:53] minutes will be allowed by
[18:54] those in favor and those
[18:56] opposed to the item in the
[18:57] hearing. Individual speakers
[18:59] are limited to three minutes
[19:00] each, unless by previous
[19:01] arrangement. A single
[19:03] spokesperson is designated, in
[19:04] which case the spokesperson MAY
[19:06] use the entire 15 minutes. When
[19:08] the city clerk calls your name,
[19:09] please come to the podium.
[19:10] Please clearly state your name
[19:12] and address for the record. You
[19:13] MAY then begin to address the
[19:14] council when the light changes
[19:16] from green to amber. That means
[19:17] you have approximately 30s
[19:19] remaining and at the conclusion
[19:20] of your time, the timer will
[19:21] ring or the light will turn
[19:22] red. So at this time I
[19:23] ll stop
[19:29] and turn it over to you. Sir.
[19:31] Good evening.
[19:33] Good evening, good evening.
[19:33] Let
[19:43] s get this thing up. Oh.
[19:44] Well, I don
[19:45] t see the
[20:03] presentation now. Thank you.
[20:05] Good evening, MR. Mayor.
[20:08] Members of the council. Um, my
[20:09] name is Scott Walters. I
[20:09] m with
[20:11] the development Services
[20:12] department. Uh, this will be a
[20:15] short presentation on possible
[20:17] text amendments to our sign
[20:19] code specifically related to
[20:21] wall mounted signage, window
[20:24] signage, and the downtown two
[20:26] district. Um, the council has
[20:27] already seen this presentation
[20:29] once before at their work
[20:32] session on JUNE the 1st. Um,
[20:34] the original presentation had
[20:36] seven examples of those seven
[20:38] examples, four were selected by
[20:40] the council to move forward for
[20:46] public hearing. The staff
[20:48] presented the four examples to
[20:50] the Planning Commission, um, at
[20:52] their JULY 21st meeting, uh, as
[20:54] part of the public hearing
[20:56] process and to get their
[20:58] recommendations tonight, we
[20:59] bring it back before the
[21:01] council. Uh, for your
[21:07] consideration. Uh, the first
[21:09] example in this is, uh, for
[21:11] mounted signage. And
[21:11] what we
[21:12] re doing with this
[21:14] example is we would remove the
[21:15] five sign limit that we
[21:17] currently have in place. Uh,
[21:19] and then building mounted
[21:21] signage would only be regulated
[21:24] by the wall area of each side
[21:25] of the building using the
[21:29] increased allowance below. Um,
[21:31] the way it reads, unless
[21:33] otherwise stated, the permitted
[21:35] copy area for building mounted
[21:37] signage shall be calculated as
[21:39] the greater of either. Um.
[21:39] Currently it
[21:42] s 1 to 1. We would
[21:48] increase that to 1.5 to 1, and
[21:50] the second one is 10%
[21:51] currently. And that would
[21:55] increase to 15%. The next is
[21:57] the downtown two district. Uh,
[21:59] this would remove the downtown
[22:00] two districts from the
[22:02] limitations of the subsection
[22:04] below. Uh, and it would place
[22:06] or allow the two district to
[22:09] use the same standards as all
[22:11] other nonresidential districts
[22:13] for building. Building mounted
[22:16] signage currently, the two
[22:20] district is, uh, limited to one
[22:22] exterior building of sign per
[22:27] street front. Example f is
[22:30] windows, signage, and this
[22:32] would remove the limitation on
[22:34] window signage related to walls
[22:36] that have wall signage. Um, it
[22:40] would increase to 100% coverage
[22:41] of the glazed area of every
[22:43] window and door on all sides of
[22:45] the building. Um, and as a side
[22:47] note, the d2 district is
[22:49] already regulated in the same
[22:52] as all other nonresidential
[22:54] districts for windows, signage.
[22:56] Um, below is the current
[22:58] standards, as you see scratched
[23:01] out, uh, 50% of the cumulative
[23:02] square footage of the glazed
[23:04] area. Um, that would increase
[23:09] to 100%. Um, and we would take
[23:10] away, as it says, down there
[23:12] below, shall not exceed the
[23:14] square footage of an installed
[23:16] wall sign. And what that really
[23:17] means is if there
[23:17] s a wall sign
[23:20] up there smaller, then what is
[23:23] allowed for the glazed area.
[23:24] Then you would have to stick
[23:26] with the signage size of the
[23:29] wall sign instead of the. So we
[23:30] were removed. Both of those
[23:32] standards and increase it to
[23:35] 100%. Coverage. Our last
[23:39] example um, and this example,
[23:41] we removed the five sign limit
[23:43] for building mounted signs per
[23:47] building or tenant space. Allow
[23:49] full wall coverage of all
[23:51] building walls. So basically a
[23:53] wall wrap, whether it was one
[23:55] big sign encompassing the whole
[23:57] side of the building or or a
[23:59] wall of the building, uh, or
[24:02] multiple signs, um, on any one
[24:03] side or all sides of the
[24:05] building. And the only
[24:07] regulating um requirement would
[24:08] be that they would be they
[24:10] would be required to have a
[24:11] sign permit for any sign that
[24:18] they did place on the building.
[24:22] The recommendations on JULY
[24:23] 21st, uh, the Planning
[24:25] Commission met and voted five
[24:27] zero to recommend the City
[24:30] Council approve example and c
[24:32] as presented below is the
[24:34] example b as we showed in the
[24:38] first slide. An example c, um,
[24:40] is the downtown two district
[24:46] example. Um, the options here,
[24:49] um, approve uh, with examples
[24:50] of b and c as recommended by
[24:52] the Planning Commission
[24:53] approval some or none of the
[24:55] examples as recommended by the
[24:57] Planning Commission. Um,
[24:59] remaining back to staff was
[25:02] specific verbiage or changes as
[25:04] desired or deny all uh text
[25:18] amendment options.
[25:20] COUNCILMAN.
[25:21] MR. Mayor.
[25:21] There
[25:22] s no question I
[25:22] m not
[25:22] prepared to.
[25:23] The public.
[25:24] Hearing. All right.
[25:26] That will open the public
[25:26] hearing.
[25:27] MADAM Clerk.
[25:28] Mayor, we have no speakers for
[25:29] this item.
[25:30] That will.
[25:30] Close the public hearing.
[25:32] COUNCILMAN Hondros, there
[25:32] s no
[25:33] questions, MR. Mayor. I
[25:33] m
[25:34] prepared to make a motion. Yes,
[25:37] sir. I move to approve, um,
[25:42] examples b, c and f. All right.
[25:44] Motion by Councilmember Hondros
[25:45] to approve. Is there a second
[25:46] by Councilmember Davis? I
[25:48] believe I on the system
[25:50] discussion. All right. Council
[25:51] looks to you for your votes on
[25:59] this item. All right, MADAM
[26:01] Clerk. Uh, that is approved
[26:03] voting opposition mayor pro
[26:08] tem. All right. Uh, 8.02. Uh,
[26:15] MR. Van Jones, robo.
[26:17] Good evening. Mayor. Council.
[26:18] Pleasure to be with you here
[26:26] tonight.
[26:26] I don
[26:27] t know, it
[26:27] s right. I
[26:27] m a
[26:30] pdf. I got it now, I did that,
[26:31] I did that last time. Apologies
[26:36] there for the brief delay. And
[26:37] so you have before you. We
[26:38] re
[26:39] happy to be back again with
[26:40] another applicant for the Candu
[26:42] performance financing program.
[26:45] Uh, tonight we have one project
[26:45] in front of you, but I think
[26:46] it
[26:46] s a really great one, the
[26:47] one that we
[26:47] ve been working
[26:49] with for some time. As you MAY
[26:51] recall, this program was
[26:52] developed to advance city
[26:52] s
[26:53] goal of increasing the number
[26:55] and diversity of local vendors
[26:57] available to you and
[26:59] institutional, uh, uh,
[27:00] institutions here in the
[27:02] community. Importantly, it is
[27:04] designed to address the typical
[27:05] barriers that keep small
[27:07] companies from growing,
[27:08] especially those in low and
[27:09] moderate income communities.
[27:11] And it overcomes the hurdles of
[27:12] traditional lending. It
[27:12] s
[27:15] administered by the 501 c3, and
[27:16] we have a number of partners
[27:17] that have worked with us
[27:18] throughout this process, and
[27:18] we
[27:20] ll continue to. We launched
[27:22] with $5 million, 2.5 million
[27:23] from the city, 2.5 million from
[27:25] the state, and job creating
[27:27] businesses can apply for up to
[27:29] $750,000 worth of funding. Uh,
[27:31] I would say today a good time
[27:32] to say now
[27:33] s a great time to
[27:35] apply. Uh, go to, uh, can do
[27:37] carolina.Com and you can, uh,
[27:37] and we
[27:37] ll, we
[27:38] ll share the link
[27:39] in a moment there. But we
[27:39] ll be
[27:40] making a push to encourage
[27:41] people to apply for our next
[27:43] round of funding. But if the
[27:44] company creates the required
[27:46] jobs, the funds are treated as
[27:48] a forgivable loan, meaning they
[27:48] don
[27:49] t accrue interest. And they
[27:50] t company move forward
[27:52] and grow. We had 29 unique
[27:54] businesses apply, uh, working
[27:56] through those. We had 17
[27:58] candidates that were within the
[28:00] qualified areas or qualified as
[28:02] into the type of business they
[28:03] were. Even though we can
[28:04] t fund
[28:04] non-profits, a lot of
[28:06] non-profits ask, uh, seven
[28:07] projects were submitted to the
[28:09] investment committee. Uh, six
[28:11] of those went forward with one,
[28:11] I think we
[28:13] re, uh, to seed our
[28:14] partner for reviewing of the
[28:15] financial due diligence. And we
[28:16] had one project that met the
[28:18] scoring criteria for this round
[28:20] of funding. Uh, just as a
[28:22] reminder, the air is in blue
[28:23] and it does change and has
[28:24] changed. There
[28:24] s a new link,
[28:26] but this was the maps that were
[28:28] in place at the time of this
[28:30] round of applications. These
[28:31] are yellow to moderate income
[28:35] census tracts. And again, to
[28:37] qualify they have to be a
[28:40] company that has 15 or fewer
[28:41] businesses, um, employees,
[28:43] sorry, operating in the census
[28:45] tract. And they have to create
[28:48] one job for $25,000, provided
[28:49] with at least 60 of those new
[28:50] hires being from low to
[28:51] moderate income households,
[28:53] they have to pay at least 10%
[28:54] above the local average. Uh,
[28:55] for the positions. By
[28:58] classification, and create 50%
[28:59] of the jobs within 18 months
[29:01] and 100% within five years. Uh,
[29:03] our applicant today that we
[29:03] re
[29:04] pleased to bring forward is
[29:06] Carlos Godwin and Camden
[29:07] Cleaning Solutions. And if you
[29:08] have a moment, we
[29:08] d like to let
[29:10] him have an opportunity to say
[29:11] a little bit about his company
[29:16] and his project. Carlos.
[29:17] Hello, everyone.
[29:18] Good evening. All right.
[29:20] My name is Carlos Godwin. In
[29:22] 2019, I started my commercial
[29:25] cleaning business. Um, of
[29:25] course, it
[29:26] s called Camden
[29:27] Cleaning Solutions and we
[29:27] ve
[29:30] been providing services to many
[29:32] companies around, uh,
[29:33] Fayetteville, um, including
[29:35] Fayetteville State, uh, Fort
[29:37] Liberty, Fort Bragg, and we
[29:37] ve
[29:39] also worked with Seymour
[29:41] Johnson Air Force Base. And
[29:41] today we
[29:43] re asking for approval
[29:47] for $125,000 for capital
[29:49] equipment requests. And these
[29:51] requests are broken down into
[29:53] three different categories. Uh,
[29:54] category number one, we
[29:54] re
[29:55] looking for fleet. So we
[29:55] re
[29:58] looking for $55,000 to purchase
[30:02] 2 to 3. Um, um, utility vans.
[30:06] Um, uh, so that we can deploy
[30:09] more, um, crews simultaneously.
[30:09] We
[30:11] re looking at $28,000 for
[30:13] floor care equipment. This is
[30:14] specifically for our stripping
[30:17] wax, uh, service. Um, so we
[30:17] re
[30:18] looking at purchasing buffers
[30:20] and scrubbers and also tile
[30:21] grout equipment. And then that
[30:25] last, uh, bucket is $42,000 for
[30:26] our specialty equipment. And
[30:27] this is for our pressure
[30:30] washing trailers, our carpet
[30:31] cleaning and carpet extraction,
[30:33] as well as some of our small,
[30:36] um, uh, business equipment,
[30:38] like our mop buckets and our,
[30:40] our carts and, um, and things
[30:41] like that. And we
[30:41] re also
[30:42] looking to invest some of that
[30:44] last bucket into facility
[30:47] changes as well as, um, safety.
[30:50] Um, so this investment is just
[30:52] not going to help with, um, the
[30:54] bottom line. We also want to
[30:57] increase our staffing. So we
[30:57] we
[30:59] re looking at hiring five
[31:01] people, um, over the next five
[31:04] years with three of those, um,
[31:06] to be in the next 18 to 24
[31:07] months. And we
[31:08] re hiring
[31:11] different positions, such asning technicians, floor
[31:14] specialists, um, supervisors,
[31:16] as well as hr representatives.
[31:18] So, uh, again, just a quick,
[31:21] uh, $125,000 request for
[31:23] approval for our capital
[31:24] equipment so that we can
[31:28] improve our, um, our, uh, our
[31:29] business and our and our
[31:31] infrastructure. So I thank you
[31:32] guys for the time and
[31:34] opportunity. I also want to
[31:36] thank the Candu program for
[31:38] helping us go through this this
[31:38] journey.
[31:41] Thank you sir.
[31:41] Yeah.
[31:42] Thank you. Thank you. And I
[31:43] m
[31:43] sure he
[31:44] s happy to answer any
[31:46] questions either now or, uh,
[31:47] during or after the public
[31:47] hearing that
[31:49] s required. Uh, we
[31:50] do respectfully request that
[31:51] you approve these funds. I
[31:52] think importantly for folks,
[31:56] these are to buy the items that
[31:57] allow a company to grow that
[31:58] typically would require a line
[32:00] of credit or some sort of debt
[32:02] instrument that adds interest
[32:03] costs, makes it very hard to
[32:04] purchase equipment, pay the
[32:06] debt, pay your people, do the
[32:07] work and wait to get paid. And
[32:07] that
[32:08] s what the program is
[32:10] designed to do to allow them to
[32:12] get the assets they need to
[32:14] grow. And for people looking
[32:15] for more information they go to
[32:18] can do Carolina fund.Com. We
[32:19] have a new application form
[32:22] going up tonight. And with that
[32:23] thank you for the opportunity
[32:24] to present this tonight. Thank
[32:25] you for the support.
[32:27] All right. Thank you. Uh we
[32:27] ll
[32:28] see any questions at the
[32:28] moment. So with that I
[32:29] ll open
[32:31] up public hearing. MADAM Clerk..
[32:32] Mayor, we have no speakers for
[32:33] this item.
[32:35] All right. So with that, we
[32:37] will close the public hearing
[32:39] and council look to you for a
[32:41] motion. Councilmember Hondros.
[32:43] I have a quick question for the
[32:45] gentleman from Camden. Where
[32:48] is, um, headquarters? Where are
[32:48] you based out of.
[32:49] We
[32:51] re off of, uh, Grove Street,
[32:52] 109 Grove Street.
[32:53] Awesome. Thank you so much.
[32:54] Yes.
[32:55] Councilmember McNair, you had a
[32:56] question. Okay. No, sir.
[32:57] I will if you don
[32:58] t.
[32:59] Councilmember Davis, you had a
[32:59] question.
[33:00] I was prepared to make a
[33:00] motion, sir.
[33:01] That
[33:02] s..
[33:02] Are y
[33:03] all two fighting? What
[33:03] y
[33:03] all doing?
[33:04] No, we were just going to make
[33:05] a motion. Okay, I guess all
[33:06] three of us.
[33:06] Y
[33:06] all don
[33:07] t have to fight over
[33:10] motions in here. All right, um,
[33:10] I saw.
[33:11] That Davis make it.
[33:13] Yes. All right, COUNCILMAN
[33:13] Dave.
[33:15] Thank you, MR. Mayor. I move, I
[33:16] move that we approve. Carlos
[33:18] Godwin and Camden Cleaning
[33:19] Solutions llc for the can
[33:20] t do
[33:21] performance financing funding
[33:25] in the amount of $125,000 and
[33:28] authorize the kdf to release
[33:29] the funds subject to the
[33:32] candidate entering into an
[33:33] incentive agreement. Thank you,
[33:34] MR. Mayor.
[33:35] All right, all right. So let me
[33:36] let me get a second on that
[33:37] motion as a motion by
[33:38] Councilmember Davis, seconded
[33:40] by hair. And that is a district
[33:42] two business, I think he said
[33:42] Grove Street, right?
[33:43] Yes it is.
[33:43] That
[33:44] s why I was kind of quiet.
[33:45] All right.
[33:46] Councilmember.
[33:48] Uh, thank you, mayor. And I
[33:50] like this. I like whenever we
[33:53] can support our, uh, our local
[33:55] business owners right here in
[33:57] Fayetteville. Uh, MR.. Robert,
[33:58] tell me, who does this, who
[34:00] does the verification that
[34:01] everything goes through in
[34:03] accordance to the request
[34:03] tonight?
[34:06] Uh, it is, um, it is a team
[34:07] effort as far as from this
[34:10] point forward. It is our staff
[34:12] working with special counsel,
[34:14] and then we require debt
[34:14] instruments. And then we are
[34:16] also working with paramedics.
[34:17] Who is one of your monitoring
[34:19] groups for the funds that were
[34:20] provided at the time. And city
[34:22] staff is apprised of all the
[34:23] contractual documents that go
[34:25] into it? Uh, everyone enters
[34:26] into a contract, we enter a
[34:27] security agreement, for
[34:28] example, for the vehicles,
[34:28] we
[34:30] ll hold title. Uh, in t
[34:33] case, so should we know? I have
[34:35] good faith in this project. And
[34:36] actually, in all of the
[34:36] companies we
[34:36] ve been working
[34:38] with. But should someone try to
[34:40] do something like sell our
[34:40] vehicle, they wouldn
[34:41] t be able
[34:42] to do that without, uh,
[34:43] without, you know, actually,
[34:44] they would not be able to do
[34:46] that legally. So we do the
[34:47] right things. We can. But we
[34:48] also know that these are small
[34:49] businesses. There
[34:50] s risk
[34:50] involved and they
[34:51] re trying to
[34:52] grow. But it is. We also work
[34:53] with seed. And then when
[34:55] companies need training or
[34:56] upskilling, we work with the
[34:58] hub at fsu or applicants who
[34:59] maybe aren
[34:59] t ready yet. So we
[35:01] do have a variety of different
[35:02] partners throughout.
[35:02] Great. I
[35:04] m glad to hear that
[35:04] and I
[35:05] m ready to vote. Mayor.
[35:06] All right, I have a couple more
[35:07] questions. Councilmember
[35:08] McNair.
[35:09] And I just wanted to say,
[35:11] before we vote to MISTER
[35:14] Carlos, congratulations,
[35:16] because you do have my vote and
[35:16] I
[35:17] m excited for you, you and
[35:18] your new staff.
[35:19] All right, all right.
[35:21] You said we do have a team of
[35:22] experienced financial
[35:24] volunteers that sit on our
[35:25] steering committee. And
[35:26] Michelle Scott here is the one
[35:27] that has to check off and sign
[35:29] off on any piece of paper that
[35:30] comes in before it gets
[35:30] anywhere.
[35:32] Yeah. All right. Councilmember
[35:33] McMillan.
[35:34] Yeah. Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[35:35] Yeah. Encouraged by. This
[35:37] program. I definitely want to
[35:38] see a grow in more applicants.
[35:40] Accepted. Uh, question for robo
[35:42] and then a question for MISTER
[35:43] Camden. Uh, I
[35:43] ll go with MISTER
[35:45] Camden first. How did you find
[35:46] out about this? Uh, this
[35:48] program would encourage you to
[35:49] apply, and then I
[35:49] ll go ahead
[35:51] and give you my my question.
[35:53] Uh, robo, my question for you
[35:53] is just what
[35:55] s the the most
[35:57] common reason for denial for
[35:59] applicants?
[36:01] Well, uh, I was just searching
[36:03] on the, uh, Fayetteville
[36:05] website, and I found it. I
[36:06] really didn
[36:07] t understand what
[36:09] it was. And then I think, I
[36:09] don
[36:10] t know if it was Shayla at
[36:12] the time, but I reached out to
[36:13] one of the, uh, the people in
[36:14] the organization. They were
[36:16] able to inform me. So. And then
[36:18] we just started filling out
[36:19] paperwork and going through the
[36:20] whole process.
[36:23] Okay. Glad that you did. Thank
[36:23] you.
[36:25] And I think today I would say
[36:26] that, uh, it
[36:27] s not so much
[36:29] denial as in, and this is
[36:29] something we
[36:30] re working really
[36:31] hard on by identifying
[36:32] businesses and sending out
[36:33] mailers, now trying new ways to
[36:34] get the word out. And we need
[36:36] as much help as possible on
[36:38] that. This fund is targeted for
[36:40] small, existing businesses to
[36:42] help them grow like you
[36:42] ve got
[36:43] right here, a person who
[36:43] s got
[36:44] full time, you know, working
[36:45] full time with the employees in
[36:46] that we
[36:47] ve had, uh, I
[36:47] d say the
[36:47] challenge we
[36:48] ve had is we
[36:48] ve
[36:50] had a large number of people
[36:51] that haven
[36:52] t yet really gotten
[36:53] started and set up. So we
[36:53] ve
[36:55] been working to try to get them
[36:57] the tools they need to become a
[36:59] fully incorporated operating
[37:02] business versus a secondary
[37:04] contract work. And so that
[37:04] s
[37:05] really been the challenge for
[37:06] the vast majority of folks that
[37:07] have come in. They haven
[37:07] t been
[37:09] ready yet. Uh, we have some
[37:10] people that have come back and
[37:11] been able to grow through that,
[37:13] and others we feel very
[37:15] confident they will be able to.
[37:16] Sometimes they want to take a
[37:20] step from step one to step 14,
[37:20] and we
[37:21] ve been working to try
[37:22] to help them get into something
[37:24] around step five and six before
[37:25] they come back. And, you know,
[37:27] look for this bigger project.
[37:28] So it takes a lot of time. But
[37:29] also to the other side is we
[37:30] have a lot of early, earlier
[37:33] stage companies. I know I feel
[37:33] confident there
[37:34] s a lot of
[37:36] businesses that are out there
[37:37] doing the work every day and
[37:38] are trying to keep up with
[37:39] everything they have to do to
[37:40] keep their business going. That
[37:40] haven
[37:42] t yet heard about this. I
[37:43] think your business is a
[37:44] perfect example. Uh, even
[37:47] business. How long now? Since
[37:48] 2019. So he
[37:49] s a perfect fit for
[37:50] this when it first came out.
[37:50] N
[37:51] t until the second
[37:52] round where he was able to hear
[37:53] about it. So I think, you know,
[37:54] I think we just need to get the
[37:56] word out to qualifying existing
[37:57] businesses. We have other
[37:59] programs for startups. We have
[38:00] other grant programs for really
[38:02] big companies. But this is
[38:02] unique in the sense it
[38:03] s for a
[38:05] small existing business to help
[38:05] them grow.
[38:07] Right. Thank you. Thank you.
[38:10] And, uh, MR. Godwin again, uh,
[38:13] good work. Very impressive. Um,
[38:14] Robert, when we when we first
[38:16] talked about this, it was a gap
[38:17] that needed to be filled
[38:18] because as you said, there
[38:19] s
[38:19] there
[38:20] s something here,
[38:21] regardless of what stage your
[38:22] business in and if it
[38:22] s a
[38:24] conceptual idea, you have the
[38:24] hub, what you
[38:25] re helping with,
[38:27] business plans and, and other
[38:28] services to help you get
[38:29] incorporated and tax id numbers
[38:31] and all those kind of things
[38:32] that that people need when you
[38:34] first start, then you have
[38:36] those who have been in business
[38:38] who learn the trade, but now
[38:38] they they
[38:39] re ready to grow and
[38:41] scale, which is MISTER Godwin.
[38:43] And then you have our community
[38:43] development. So there
[38:44] s
[38:45] something along the way, uh,
[38:47] regardless of what size your
[38:49] business is that, that, uh,
[38:50] some of these services in the
[38:52] community that are available to
[38:54] you, uh, again, we just want to
[38:55] encourage people to apply.
[38:55] There
[38:57] s a success story for, I
[38:58] think maybe the first one we
[39:01] approved, uh, the local
[39:02] contractor, she bought
[39:03] additional equipment with it.
[39:05] And now my understanding is she
[39:06] just got recently awarded a $4
[39:07] million contract.
[39:09] The usda grant from the North
[39:10] Carolina. Right. Going to be
[39:11] able to grow up and have, uh,
[39:14] 16 employees. Now, uh, vast,
[39:15] exceeding quickly exceeding
[39:16] their job creation
[39:18] expectations. And I have a
[39:19] feeling, well, Carlos has five
[39:20] years to get it because we
[39:21] didn
[39:21] t want it to be a burden
[39:23] on compliance for the company.
[39:24] I have no doubt he
[39:25] s going to
[39:26] meet those numbers much faster
[39:26] than that.
[39:28] So. Fantastic. Well, look, I
[39:28] don
[39:29] t want to delay this any
[39:31] further. Council, COUNCILMAN
[39:31] Davis.
[39:33] Uh, what can you tell us when
[39:35] the next cycle for applications
[39:37] can come in?
[39:39] We if we get a large influx, we
[39:40] tend to run as a group. But you
[39:42] can apply any time. Okay. So
[39:44] and now is a perfect time
[39:44] because we
[39:45] ve just worked
[39:46] through this approval here. And
[39:47] so we are absolutely ready.
[39:48] We
[39:48] ve got a brand new form
[39:49] online that
[39:50] ll make applying
[39:53] even easier on our site. So now
[39:53] is a perfect time. It
[39:54] s always
[39:55] a good time to give us a call.
[39:57] And we we can handle just about
[39:58] anything that comes in.
[39:59] Thank you sir.
[40:00] All right. Council look to you
[40:01] for your votes. There are no
[40:08] other questions. All right.
[40:09] Motion carries. Unanimous.
[40:10] Congratulations. Let
[40:11] s go and
[40:12] look forward to great things.
[40:18] For.
[40:20] All right, all right. Council
[40:24] moving to the 9.01 staff
[40:26] reports. Starts out with our
[40:29] Chief Dove and our iso rated
[40:33] fire department 135. In the in
[40:39] the world 100 271 2727. Oh,
[40:40] man. I gotta say, I
[40:40] m not
[40:41] really ready. It
[40:43] s only 711 at
[40:44] night. Look. Don
[40:45] t smoke. Hey,
[40:47] hey, uh, I thought you wanted
[40:48] to get through this without a
[40:49] complication. Oh, you don
[40:49] t
[40:51] worry. Let me think of some
[40:54] questions for you. Yeah. I
[40:56] usually psych myself up. I
[40:56] wasn
[40:58] t ready yet. Oh, good
[40:59] evening, MR. Mayor. Members of
[41:01] the council, Kevin Dove, fire
[41:02] chief, uh, here tonight,
[41:04] presenting the calendar year
[41:07] 2026, second quarter report.
[41:09] Uh, we have three highlights,
[41:10] uh, for the second that
[41:11] we
[41:12] re very excited to share.
[41:13] Um, as Doctor Hewitt said, we
[41:15] went through our accreditation
[41:17] process and we
[41:17] re awarded
[41:19] accreditation for the fourth
[41:21] time. Uh, and what I need
[41:22] everybody to know is that
[41:22] s not
[41:23] done in a vacuum. That
[41:23] s not
[41:24] done just by the fire
[41:25] department. That
[41:26] s a a whole
[41:29] group effort by the city. Uh,
[41:30] when our peer assessors come
[41:32] in, they interview city
[41:32] manager
[41:33] s office, they
[41:35] interview it, they interview
[41:38] hr, finance, budget, um, and
[41:39] our number one center,
[41:41] obviously. And if those folks
[41:42] don
[41:42] t have their ducks in a
[41:43] row, it doesn
[41:44] t work for us. So
[41:45] we also share this with them
[41:46] and we
[41:47] re appreciative of their
[41:49] work. Uh, and also I have to
[41:50] thank our partners at
[41:51] Fayetteville Technical
[41:53] Community College. Uh, they
[41:55] gave us that beautiful training
[41:56] center that we take advantage
[41:58] of every day. And that helps a
[42:02] ton as well. Um, also, we
[42:04] participated in a smoke alarm
[42:06] Saturday canvass where we
[42:09] visited 111 homes and installed
[42:11] 135 smoke alarms in three
[42:13] hours. All free of charge. And
[42:15] we held our groundbreaking for
[42:17] fire station 16. So it was a
[42:19] good quarter.
[42:20] Yeah, yeah.
[42:23] Um, moving on to operations,
[42:27] um, we responded to 7359 calls
[42:29] in quarter two, a slight
[42:31] increase from 2025, with APRIL
[42:32] being the busiest of three
[42:37] months. Uh, 4452 of those calls
[42:41] were medical in nature. 1115
[42:44] false alarms, 1018 service
[42:47] calls, and 317 fires. Uh, we
[42:49] have your heat maps that you
[42:51] like to see. Um, this is your
[42:54] fire map. And this followed
[42:56] behind with the medical, uh,
[42:58] map. Also, as always, we
[42:58] re
[42:59] happy to get you zoomed in to
[43:01] your districts. If you wish to
[43:04] help you, uh, identify any
[43:08] issues. Uh, the response times
[43:10] stay consistent with the total
[43:11] response time average of seven
[43:13] minutes and 31 seconds, which
[43:15] is well under our eight minute
[43:17] expectation. Uh, I want to give
[43:18] special attention to the
[43:20] decrease in alarm handling
[43:22] time. Uh, we thank MISS Reid
[43:23] and her staff for being very
[43:25] efficient. Uh, calls are being
[43:27] turned out of our 911 center.
[43:29] An average of one minute and
[43:33] three seconds. And chief calls
[43:35] are being turned out of our 911
[43:37] center. And an average of one
[43:42] minute and three seconds. Uh,
[43:44] before we go any further on
[43:45] statistics, I need to share
[43:47] with you that the us Fire
[43:48] Administration has changed how
[43:50] we collect and report data as
[43:51] the fire service, uh, what was
[43:54] known as Infers, which is the
[43:55] National Fire Incident
[43:57] Reporting System, is now near
[43:58] us, which is the National
[44:00] Emergency Response Information
[44:02] System. Say that three times
[44:03] fast.
[44:04] Mm.
[44:06] Uh, this change took place in
[44:09] JANUARY of 26. So several areas
[44:11] that we previously tracked are
[44:12] no longer tracked and some have
[44:14] been manipulated and some are
[44:15] collected different. So for
[44:17] about the next 2 or 3 quarters,
[44:17] you
[44:18] re going to see some things
[44:19] that MAY be skewed. But I
[44:19] ll
[44:22] try my best to, uh, to point
[44:24] those out to you. All right, so
[44:26] for our fire statistics, there
[44:29] were 317 fire responses in the
[44:31] second quarter. 68 those
[44:33] were structure fires. 12 of
[44:35] those started in the kitchen.
[44:37] Sadly, there was one civilian
[44:39] fire fatality and nine civilian
[44:41] injuries. There were seven
[44:42] firefighter injuries.
[44:44] Thankfully, all minor sprains
[44:45] and strains and things like
[44:48] that. The percentage of fires
[44:50] confined to the room of origin
[44:53] is at 57%, which is one of the
[44:55] things one of the changes, uh,
[44:57] previously we would identify
[44:59] fires as starting in the Room
[45:02] of origin contained to the
[45:04] building of origin, or did it
[45:05] get to an exposure? Well,
[45:06] that
[45:07] s changed now. Now you
[45:12] just report 25%, 50%, 75% or
[45:15] 100% loss. So that throws that
[45:16] out. Um, what we
[45:17] re going to do
[45:19] from now on is, of the confined
[45:20] room of origin. We
[45:20] re going to
[45:23] count in our 25% damage. Uh,
[45:23] that
[45:25] s the best way we can find
[45:30] to track that. The dollar saved
[45:36] ratio was at 94.33%. Uh, we had
[45:38] a some significant fire losses
[45:40] this quarter, which brought
[45:41] that number down a little bit.
[45:45] Uh, that was 2.2.68 1 million
[45:47] in total fire loss. Um, six of
[45:48] the structure fires were
[45:50] intentionally set, and we had
[45:52] three lithium ion battery
[45:54] fires. Uh, we did use one of
[45:56] our fire blankets. We had a
[45:57] lithium ion battery fire in the
[45:59] back of a tractor trailer. It
[46:01] was a total of, uh, batteries
[46:03] that were were taken off on us.
[46:05] And we were we used our, uh,
[46:09] our fire blanket. The top three
[46:12] fire losses were the, uh, hotel
[46:14] fire on Sycamore Dairy Road.
[46:16] Uh, this picture is is awesome
[46:16] to me, but I
[46:17] m a fireman. It
[46:18] probably scares the heck out of
[46:20] a bunch of people, but one of
[46:21] the occupants took this out of
[46:25] their window. Um, that morning,
[46:26] uh, the second fire was a
[46:28] residential fire on Adolphus
[46:29] Road. And then we had a farm
[46:31] equipment fire on Stony Point
[46:34] Road. You
[46:35] ll see a decrease in
[46:38] ems calls. Um, this is also
[46:39] another part of that near us
[46:40] where some calls are now
[46:43] reclassified as service calls.
[46:46] Uh, overdose responses and
[46:47] Narcan administration continue
[46:51] to trend down. Our hazmat team
[46:54] had a busy as excuse me, had a
[46:56] busy quarter. Um, natural gas
[46:57] response has increased almost
[46:58] triple. We don
[47:00] t know why there
[47:02] was no smoking gun. Um, but
[47:02] we
[47:03] re going to continue to
[47:05] monitor that. And our hazmat
[47:06] team is actually right now
[47:07] getting ready to go to Harnett
[47:10] County, uh, for a Co call. So
[47:10] they
[47:11] re busy. They
[47:12] re always
[47:15] moving. Uh, moving on to our
[47:16] most important pieces, our
[47:19] human capital, our personnel.
[47:21] We held our sixth annual women
[47:23] in the fire service day. Uh,
[47:24] this is when we invite women
[47:26] interested in the fire service
[47:27] to the training center. Uh,
[47:29] they kick all the males out.
[47:31] Our female officers and
[47:32] firefighters are there to
[47:33] answer their questions. They
[47:35] walk them through the physical
[47:36] agility test, helped them with
[47:38] interview skills, and basically
[47:39] show them what it takes to be a
[47:40] firefighter and what it
[47:41] s all
[47:45] about. It was actually a really
[47:46] good quarter for us in regards
[47:49] to separations. Uh, this chart
[47:50] looks a little dramatic. Um,
[47:51] bu only had two
[47:53] resignations and one retirement
[47:56] in the second quarter. At the
[47:59] end of the quarter, we only had
[48:00] one vacancy, which was a permit
[48:01] technician and fire
[48:03] inspections. We filled that,
[48:05] but unfortunately, we are
[48:06] starting to see an increase in
[48:09] resignations over the summer.
[48:11] Uh, our demographics remain
[48:12] very similar to quarter one
[48:14] simply because we didn
[48:14] t lose
[48:15] many people and we only hired
[48:18] one inspector. Uh, we can
[48:21] continue to currently be at 26%
[48:23] underrepresented population.
[48:26] Our staff completed over 32,000
[48:28] hours of training in the second
[48:32] quarter. Um, moving on into the
[48:32] fire marshal
[48:35] s office, our fire
[48:38] inspectors completed 1038 new
[48:41] plan reviews, did 323 new
[48:46] construction inspections, 3471
[48:48] maintenance inspections, and
[48:50] discovered 7242 fire code
[48:52] violations. Luckily, most of
[48:54] those are education and fixed
[48:56] right there. Um, very few
[48:58] require a fine or any kind of
[49:00] additional action. Uh, we
[49:03] issued 143 new certificate of
[49:06] occupancies and distributed 106
[49:08] educational flyers to
[49:10] businesses. Here are the top
[49:13] five fire code violations that
[49:14] we find. Portable fire
[49:16] extinguishers are still number
[49:18] one with electrical equipment,
[49:20] wiring and hazards being number
[49:24] two. And last but certainly not
[49:26] least is our community risk
[49:30] reduction folks. Uh, we
[49:35] interacted with 9999 residents,
[49:36] and I was like, really? You
[49:37] couldn
[49:38] t find one more person
[49:40] to go talk to? But, uh, they
[49:41] gave me the real number. So
[49:42] that
[49:43] s what it is. Uh, we were
[49:47] at 104 community events, 392
[49:49] smoke alarms were installed.
[49:51] Total 116 carbon monoxide
[49:54] alarms installed, 105 children
[49:56] are now riding more safely in
[50:01] cars. 1018 people now no hands,
[50:03] only cpr. And we did three
[50:04] youth fire setting
[50:06] interventions during the second
[50:11] quarter. And as always, no one
[50:12] should ever go to sleep without
[50:15] a working smoke alarm. Call us
[50:17] or scan the qr code for free
[50:19] smoke alarm delivered to your
[50:21] home and installed by our fine
[50:22] firefighters, and I
[50:23] m happy to
[50:25] take any of your questions.
[50:27] Uh, do have a couple
[50:28] Councilmember hair. And then I
[50:29] had one.
[50:31] Thank you. Pretty good. Uh,
[50:34] report, chief. Thank you sir.
[50:36] Uh, I was trying to see. I
[50:38] think it was. Well, that says
[50:42] that two that you had a, you
[50:47] had where a person had, uh,
[50:49] lost their life. But I
[50:49] ve got
[50:51] it written down here as far as
[50:52] statistics, but you
[50:53] ve got 2 or
[50:55] 3 that has, have that I was
[50:57] trying to see. Was that person
[50:59] caught that started the fire.
[51:00] No, I think you said you said
[51:01] the fire that was started. Was
[51:04] that person caught?
[51:05] Yes, sir.
[51:06] Thank you.
[51:07] Thank you. Mayor.
[51:09] Chief, on, uh, the page with
[51:15] fire inspections. Second
[51:15] quarter. It
[51:18] s got years 22, 24,
[51:23] 25 and 26. Yes, yes. So you
[51:26] have a huge increase in fire
[51:30] code violations from 25 and 26.
[51:32] It doubled. Why is that?
[51:37] Our inspections doubled. Um, if
[51:38] you look at the new
[51:40] construction inspections, none
[51:41] of those were reported. We
[51:41] didn
[51:43] t do them in 24 and 25.
[51:45] And our plans reviews have
[51:47] almost doubled as well. Um, due
[51:49] to the additional staff, um,
[51:51] and a lot of those are found in
[51:52] the new plans reviews when
[51:52] they
[51:54] re going through the, the
[51:56] reviews and they say, hey, with
[51:59] this, you need a riser here or
[52:01] something over here that counts
[52:04] as a violation. Really? Yes,
[52:04] sir. It
[52:05] s just because it has
[52:07] to be noted. But it
[52:08] s no, it
[52:08] s,
[52:10] you know, people and education.
[52:11] Oh yeah. The maintenance
[52:16] inspections are the 3471. Those
[52:17] are the ones that are on the
[52:19] three, four and five year cycle
[52:21] where we go into the, uh, the
[52:22] business and, and get them
[52:23] squared away.
[52:24] Okay.
[52:25] All right. Council member, uh,
[52:27] Jones and then mayor pro tem.
[52:28] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[52:29] Uh, first, thank you all for
[52:31] what you do. Um, was able to
[52:32] attend some of the car safety
[52:34] events that you partnering with
[52:35] the state and others with. You
[52:36] all do a good job. I just
[52:39] appreciated the engagement that
[52:40] you have with the community,
[52:41] how responsive they were. And I
[52:43] think a lot of them were
[52:44] surprised. They were like, oh,
[52:46] the fire department is out
[52:47] here. So you are doing a lot of
[52:48] things. So I run a really,
[52:49] really thank you all in the
[52:51] community is really, really,
[52:52] uh, appreciative of you. Uh, my
[52:54] question is quick now, maybe
[52:55] premature asking this. If so,
[52:57] you can just say so and we get
[52:59] it. Um, later in the year. Uh,
[52:59] I see you
[53:00] re doing a good job
[53:02] with your staffing and your
[53:04] retention, um, as well. And I
[53:06] know you mentioned some things,
[53:08] uh, at this moment, what are
[53:11] your plans or what is in place
[53:13] to, uh, address the over
[53:17] higher, uh, situation?
[53:17] Um, we
[53:19] ve been working with,
[53:21] uh, budget, and we think we
[53:23] have a solution. Um, we
[53:23] re
[53:23] going to we
[53:24] re moving. We
[53:24] re
[53:25] actually moving forward with
[53:30] our second, um, class of 2026
[53:32] that will start in SEPTEMBER.
[53:32] Uh, we
[53:34] re going to on board the
[53:35] over hires. Um, and we
[53:36] re going
[53:37] to work closely with budget to
[53:39] make sure, um, we can handle
[53:40] that because we
[53:40] re, we
[53:41] re, um,
[53:43] realizing some vacancies and
[53:46] some coming. Um, or
[53:47] retirements. So they
[53:48] re going
[53:48] to they
[53:49] re going to flush
[53:51] themselves out. The the concern
[53:52] we have is probably for the,
[53:57] um, first class of 2027, um, we
[53:58] MAY not be able to to bring the
[53:59] over higher zone. It just
[54:00] depends on what the numbers
[54:01] look like.
[54:02] Okay.
[54:04] Okay. Understood. I think we
[54:05] can address that at that time.
[54:05] Thank you so much.
[54:06] Thank you.
[54:06] All right. Mayor Pro.
[54:08] Tem.
[54:08] Uh.
[54:09] Just to piggyback.
[54:09] Off of.
[54:11] What my colleagues said about
[54:14] the partnership with state, uh,
[54:15] community Services, I went out
[54:16] there.
[54:19] And seen one of your events
[54:22] about the child car seats and a
[54:24] grandpa and a papa like me did
[54:26] not realize that the car seat
[54:27] that I had installed was
[54:29] installed. Wrong.
[54:30] Papa.
[54:30] So I
[54:31] m glad thatent out to
[54:33] that event. And I don
[54:33] t know
[54:34] who the young lady was, but she
[54:35] corrected me. How do you get
[54:38] that information out? Because I
[54:40] had asked, uh, Shakeshaft a few
[54:42] questions about why that, uh,
[54:43] exercise only lasted a couple
[54:45] of hours. And how come we
[54:45] didn
[54:47] t publicize that? More? So
[54:48] Papa
[54:49] s like me around the city
[54:51] can take their cars and get
[54:52] them inspected for the child
[54:53] seats that
[54:53] s carrying their
[54:54] loved ones.
[54:56] Well, I got the guy right here,
[54:57] so he can, uh, I
[54:58] ll take the
[54:59] beating if there is one, but he
[55:01] can give you the information.
[55:03] So that particular event that
[55:04] you were at was part of
[55:06] training new car seat techs. So
[55:07] that class was a week long
[55:09] class which included a two hour
[55:11] car seat checking station for
[55:13] us to test our new techs at,
[55:15] uh. However, there have been,
[55:16] uh, since that day, there
[55:16] s
[55:18] been three more events there
[55:19] between the target parking lot
[55:20] and the Harris Teeter parking
[55:20] lot. They
[55:21] re pushed out through
[55:22] our social media, and they
[55:22] re
[55:23] pushed out through our
[55:23] partners. It
[55:24] s not just the
[55:25] Fayetteville Fire Department.
[55:26] You have the North Carolina
[55:28] Safe Kids coalition. Hope Mills
[55:29] Fire Department
[55:29] s been out to
[55:31] help us. Uh, Fayetteville
[55:31] police have been out there to
[55:32] help us. So it
[55:32] s pushed out
[55:33] through all of our social
[55:34] media
[55:35] s Fort Bragg fire as
[55:37] well. So all of our partners
[55:38] are pushing out the flyers and
[55:40] the info and the businesses.
[55:41] Our local business community
[55:43] between Target and Harris
[55:44] Teeter and all these folks
[55:45] stepping up to welcome us to
[55:46] their properties. We
[55:47] re going
[55:47] to meet the people where
[55:47] they
[55:49] re at. I can put it out on
[55:51] social media all day long.
[55:51] We
[55:52] re going to go to where you
[55:52] are, where you
[55:53] re shopping with
[55:53] your family. We
[55:53] re going to
[55:54] find you.
[55:55] Great job, I appreciate that.
[55:56] Thank you. Sir.
[55:57] Uh, Chief Dave, one more
[55:58] question. You talked about the
[56:00] lithium battery blankets, I
[56:01] believe when I first got on
[56:03] council, you told me that they
[56:04] were mainly used for parking
[56:06] decks, and I said you had three
[56:07] of them being used for two
[56:10] questions. Two parts. One. Does
[56:12] every department have one boss?
[56:14] Three questions. Two, do you
[56:16] need more? And three, what do
[56:18] you do when you have a
[56:20] emergency and a blanket is not
[56:23] available? Because. Because let
[56:24] me back up. Because I know the
[56:24] phone that we
[56:25] re supposed to
[56:26] use, you can
[56:26] t use anymore
[56:27] because it
[56:28] s hazardous from
[56:29] that mistake.
[56:31] Yeah. Well, we we continue to
[56:32] learn about lithium ion
[56:35] batteries every day. Um, I
[56:36] think question one was where
[56:37] are they? There
[56:39] s one on every
[56:40] other floor, in every parking
[56:42] deck in the city to include the
[56:44] hospital. The hospital came on
[56:45] and partnered with us, and
[56:46] there
[56:47] s one in every battalion
[56:47] chief
[56:49] s vehicle in the city.
[56:52] Um, there are two big to go on.
[56:54] Our regular fire trucks without
[56:56] remodeling the whole truck. And
[56:57] we know those things are
[56:58] expensive enough as they are.
[57:00] Um, so the battalion chief can
[57:01] get to wherever they
[57:02] re needed
[57:04] really quick. And we have some
[57:07] spare. So the the question is
[57:07] we don
[57:08] t need anymore right
[57:08] now. We
[57:10] re good. What was your
[57:11] third part?
[57:12] That was it. That was all full
[57:12] up.
[57:13] Okay.
[57:15] Um, and we had used it. They
[57:15] re
[57:15] they
[57:17] re multi-use. Um, they
[57:18] were designed for a car fire.
[57:21] My biggest concern, as we were
[57:25] learning, um, battery vehicles
[57:27] is when they start burning, you
[57:27] can
[57:29] t put them out in a timely
[57:32] manner. And those concrete, um,
[57:34] buildings, they do. You degrade
[57:36] the concrete, they spall, you
[57:38] can lose the building. So that
[57:40] was the the first goal. But as
[57:40] we
[57:43] re learning and moving, um,
[57:43] you know, we
[57:44] re getting more
[57:44] creative.
[57:45] You just made me think of
[57:47] another question, chief. Uh, I
[57:47] don
[57:47] t know if you know the
[57:49] answer or not, but a while ago,
[57:52] it was a bomb threat, and I d that the police
[57:53] department had to go through
[57:56] the county to get a sniffing
[57:58] dog. Well, I asked the police
[57:58] department that question.
[57:58] That
[57:59] s okay. Yeah, yeah, my
[58:00] dogs don
[58:00] t sniff.
[58:01] Yeah, I got.
[58:03] They make people feel better.
[58:04] Thank you. Chief.
[58:05] All right.
[58:06] Counsel, I don
[58:06] t see any
[58:07] further questions. We
[58:08] ll look
[58:09] for a motion to, uh. So, MR.
[58:11] Mayor. All right, so there
[58:11] s a
[58:12] motion by Mayor Pro tem to
[58:14] receive the second quarter
[58:16] report. Second by here. Any
[58:18] discussion? All right. Council,
[58:20] look to you for your votes to
[58:47] receive. All right, chief,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you
[58:49] got offases sir.Ll
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[58:58] Chfryt, eng
[58:58] ng.
[58:58] Ch
[58:58] odio
[59:01] lipa firemen and ocs,
[59:03] and of course, our residents
[59:05] here in Fayetteville. Good
[59:05] evening.
[59:08] Good evening.
[59:09] So again, I
[59:11] m Chief Brian. I
[59:12] will be conducting our second
[59:15] quarter, which will be through
[59:18] JANUARY through JUNE 30th of
[59:20] this year. Hold on. Let me
[59:30] find. There we go. As you
[59:30] ll
[59:33] see, our numbers here, um,
[59:36] persons, um, crime, property
[59:38] crimes, felony arrests. You
[59:38] ll
[59:40] see pretty much in terms of our
[59:42] numbers, um.
[59:42] Broken down.
[59:43] See, the person
[59:44] s crime is up
[59:47] 12. About 12%. I
[59:48] ll show the
[59:50] slides, um, that are coming
[59:51] afterwards. That will explain
[59:54] where the increase is at. But
[59:55] in all reference, you
[59:55] ll see
[59:57] that overall, our crime is
[59:59] down, but we have an increase
[1:00:03] of 97 incidents. And again, uh,
[1:00:05] that will be explained on the
[1:00:06] next slide here. Uh, you
[1:00:07] ll see
[1:00:09] our violent crime. You
[1:00:09] ll see
[1:00:13] for 2025 to 2026, we
[1:00:15] re at 54%
[1:00:18] less in terms of our homicides
[1:00:20] and victims, 46%.
[1:00:22] So again, I want to make sure
[1:00:22] to press her.
[1:00:26] That, yes, 54% less. Um, in
[1:00:27] terms of, uh, incidents and
[1:00:31] also. 15, 46% in terms of
[1:00:34] victims of homicides. And then
[1:00:36] also we have a 29% decrease
[1:00:39] also on rape. And, uh, we
[1:00:41] continue to, um, lower our
[1:00:43] aggravated assault, but our
[1:00:45] Achilles heel right now are the
[1:00:47] simple assaults. Um, where you
[1:00:50] see here is about 18% out. And
[1:00:52] then overall, you can look at
[1:00:53] total persons. It
[1:00:54] s up about
[1:00:59] 12% across the board from 25 to
[1:01:01] 26. Here again it reiterates
[1:01:03] our numbers regarding
[1:01:05] homicides. Uh, one of the
[1:01:05] things that we
[1:01:07] d like to tout
[1:01:10] in terms of the average, um,
[1:01:13] solvency rate across the United
[1:01:16] States, about1%. Fayetteville
[1:01:21] Police Department has 100% of
[1:01:23] our clearance, 100% clearance.
[1:01:24] So we
[1:01:26] re doing that unit is
[1:01:27] doing a phenomenal job in terms
[1:01:31] of, um, solving these crimes in
[1:01:33] terms of, um, those that have
[1:01:39] been victimized. During our
[1:01:41] aggravated assaults. Again,
[1:01:41] you
[1:01:42] ll see these numbers in
[1:01:44] terms of where we are in these
[1:01:47] misdemeanors. But yet we have,
[1:01:50] um, 16% decrease where we
[1:01:50] re
[1:01:51] partnering with the Phoenix
[1:01:53] Center to provide a wraparound
[1:01:54] service. We also have our
[1:01:56] officers and detectives that
[1:01:58] are do follow up, uh, to ensure
[1:02:01] that those victims are will not
[1:02:03] be a repeat in terms of being a
[1:02:05] victimization in terms of the
[1:02:10] domestic violence. As you see
[1:02:12] here, our sound thinking or
[1:02:15] ShotSpotter, where we had 213
[1:02:17] alerts through this period with
[1:02:19] eight guns recovered, eight
[1:02:23] arrested and 317 shell casings
[1:02:29] recovered. A property crimes.
[1:02:29] As you
[1:02:30] ll see, these numbers
[1:02:32] are also impacted, especially
[1:02:34] on our motor vehicle where
[1:02:34] we
[1:02:37] re down 23%. You
[1:02:38] ll see we
[1:02:40] actually had a team that came
[1:02:42] together with a task force to
[1:02:44] address when we were starting
[1:02:46] to have a trend, and, uh, that
[1:02:47] particular task force really
[1:02:49] made an impact in our numbers.
[1:02:49] So you
[1:02:50] ll see that here
[1:02:52] reflected on this slide. And
[1:02:56] also our robbery down 21%. Uh,
[1:02:58] you know, in terms of these
[1:03:01] robberies, uh, when our patrol
[1:03:02] arrived, we also have our
[1:03:04] capers, our Crimes against
[1:03:06] persons unit that also respond.
[1:03:08] And so with that, they
[1:03:08] re able
[1:03:11] to come out there and track any
[1:03:13] suspects, live as soon as you
[1:03:14] know, when they get there, then
[1:03:14] they
[1:03:15] ll start, um,
[1:03:16] investigating that particular
[1:03:18] case. And many times they
[1:03:18] re
[1:03:20] able to get and arrest those
[1:03:22] suspects. So therefore, you all
[1:03:24] know that many times it
[1:03:24] s going
[1:03:25] to be 1 or 2 individuals in the
[1:03:27] city that are committing these
[1:03:28] repeat robberies. So therefore
[1:03:29] we
[1:03:31] re being effective by by
[1:03:33] utilizing our capers unit. And
[1:03:33] they
[1:03:34] re doing a great job as
[1:03:40] well. Next here is our juvenile
[1:03:43] data. As you know, um, this is
[1:03:44] across the nation but also
[1:03:45] within our state. We
[1:03:46] ve
[1:03:47] received calls from other
[1:03:49] chiefs, uh, in terms of what
[1:03:49] we
[1:03:51] re doing, uh, of course,
[1:03:51] you
[1:03:53] ll see here the biggest
[1:03:54] change that you
[1:03:55] ll see in terms
[1:03:59] from 25 to 26 is our field
[1:04:01] contacts with juveniles. It
[1:04:01] s
[1:04:04] up 43%. Now, you also see that
[1:04:05] that
[1:04:07] s reflective from 25 to 26
[1:04:08] in terms of what we
[1:04:09] re doing
[1:04:10] and seizing. We
[1:04:12] re seizing 105%
[1:04:15] more weapons. We seized um,
[1:04:17] almost 70% more drugs from
[1:04:19] juveniles. But at the same
[1:04:21] time, you also decrease in
[1:04:23] breaking and entering, uh,
[1:04:25] among juveniles by 30, almost
[1:04:28] 32%. And also our motor vehicle
[1:04:30] theft has really been impacted.
[1:04:32] Also with this, uh, encounters
[1:04:35] that we have now almost 52%
[1:04:37] decrease in motor vehicle
[1:04:39] thefts. So these are how we are
[1:04:41] encountering and making an
[1:04:43] impact in terms of, uh, crimes
[1:04:46] with juveniles. Now, this slide
[1:04:51] here illustrates the crimes and
[1:04:53] contacts with uh juveniles
[1:04:55] during the curfew time. Uh,
[1:04:59] which is 11 A.M. Or 11 P.M. To
[1:05:01] 6 A.M.. And if you
[1:05:01] re watching
[1:05:02] and seeing what
[1:05:02] s happening
[1:05:03] with some of our other
[1:05:05] municipalities, they
[1:05:05] re
[1:05:07] actually looking at, um,
[1:05:09] changing their time from 11 or
[1:05:11] looking at starting at early to
[1:05:13] 9 P.M.. So, but at this time,
[1:05:14] we have right now where you
[1:05:17] see, you have 38 contacts with
[1:05:19] those 16 years in a and below,
[1:05:20] where we
[1:05:21] ve had 17 incidents
[1:05:24] with 22, uh, incidents that
[1:05:26] were charged, and 17 of these
[1:05:28] are involving juveniles. And
[1:05:29] then you
[1:05:31] ll see the, uh,
[1:05:32] reference to the the different
[1:05:33] incidents that have taken
[1:05:35] place. Now, we actually had a
[1:05:38] total of 55 contacts during
[1:05:41] this time period. But once we
[1:05:42] engage with these individuals,
[1:05:44] always be, you know, be aware
[1:05:44] that we
[1:05:45] re always utilizing
[1:05:47] either a reasonable suspicion
[1:05:49] or probable cause before we we
[1:05:51] are engaging with these
[1:05:53] individuals. And, you know,
[1:05:54] again, this is where I state
[1:05:54] that we
[1:05:56] re not approaching any
[1:05:58] of these individuals just based
[1:05:59] on because we think that
[1:05:59] they
[1:06:02] re 16 or below. And just
[1:06:03] to show that reflection, when
[1:06:04] we do encounter some of these
[1:06:05] individuals, we
[1:06:06] ve had a total
[1:06:10] of 55 and we had about ten of
[1:06:12] them were 17 years of age. So
[1:06:15] that was above. And also seven
[1:06:17] were adults. So many times this
[1:06:19] kind of reflects, again, that
[1:06:19] we can
[1:06:21] t really tell what their
[1:06:23] age is until we actually have
[1:06:24] some type of reason to, you
[1:06:26] know, engage with them, uh,
[1:06:28] through reasonable suspicion or
[1:06:31] probable cause. Here
[1:06:32] s our
[1:06:34] school resource program. As you
[1:06:36] see, we have the 18 certified
[1:06:38] SROs. Of course. Uh, today was
[1:06:40] the first day of school. And so
[1:06:40] we
[1:06:41] re going to be up and
[1:06:43] ramping up. And one, one change
[1:06:45] is different in terms of how
[1:06:45] we
[1:06:47] re looking at our numbers.
[1:06:47] Uh, you
[1:06:49] ll see, uh, previous
[1:06:49] year we
[1:06:52] ve done it as the
[1:06:52] school year, but now we
[1:06:53] re just
[1:06:54] going to do it as a calendar
[1:06:55] year just to keep it
[1:06:56] consistent, because that
[1:06:56] s how
[1:06:57] we usually track all the rest
[1:06:59] of our numbers. So we just want
[1:07:03] to have that consistency.
[1:07:05] Again, just this slide
[1:07:06] demonstrates our partnership
[1:07:08] with our federal partners. And
[1:07:09] have you
[1:07:10] ll see here our atf.
[1:07:10] We
[1:07:13] ve uh we had six federally
[1:07:14] sentenced uh, during this
[1:07:16] during this quarter, uh, four
[1:07:18] federally indicted and 48
[1:07:20] firearms seized. So with those
[1:07:22] 48 firearms seized, those are
[1:07:23] all charged federally through
[1:07:24] the atf.
[1:07:26] And as you said, six federal
[1:07:26] centers. I
[1:07:27] m saying 13.
[1:07:29] So six federally sentenced.
[1:07:31] This is with atf.
[1:07:31] Okay, okay.
[1:07:33] This is specifically with atf.
[1:07:35] Um, for federally indicted and
[1:07:38] 48 firearms charged federally.
[1:07:39] And then between our federal
[1:07:41] partners of dea, fbi, and the
[1:07:44] us marshals, we, uh, sentenced
[1:07:47] seven federally, 17 federally
[1:07:50] indicted with 28 firearms and
[1:07:53] nearly 600,000 in currency and
[1:07:54] asset seized with those
[1:07:57] partners. Here, you
[1:07:58] ll see our,
[1:08:01] uh, vice narcotics suppression
[1:08:02] of of note. You
[1:08:04] ll see, um,
[1:08:05] meth. Uh, we
[1:08:06] re we
[1:08:06] re
[1:08:07] definitely rising in terms of
[1:08:10] seizures of meth. And also
[1:08:12] marijuana. Uh, the marijuana
[1:08:15] was, um, a result of a federal
[1:08:17] case that we had with dea. So
[1:08:19] therefore we had a pretty good
[1:08:20] seizure from that particular
[1:08:23] case, which also increased what
[1:08:27] we had from 25 to 26. But
[1:08:27] across the board, we
[1:08:28] re
[1:08:30] starting to see an increase in
[1:08:31] meth across the community in
[1:08:35] terms of usage. These are our
[1:08:37] numbers here. Uh, for our 901
[1:08:39] communications center. You
[1:08:39] ll
[1:08:41] see, uh, 911 calls. We
[1:08:42] ve
[1:08:45] processed, uh, 125,000 plus
[1:08:47] calls. And between that and our
[1:08:47] admin, you
[1:08:48] re almost pressing
[1:08:51] up to a 200,000 calls. Calls
[1:08:52] for service or dispatch is
[1:08:55] about a, um, just over 103,000
[1:08:57] calls. So, uh, we
[1:08:58] re
[1:08:59] continuously pushing forward
[1:09:05] with our number one center. Uh,
[1:09:06] one thing that we
[1:09:07] ve been
[1:09:11] having, uh, in terms of traffic
[1:09:12] enforcement, and we
[1:09:13] re hoping
[1:09:14] that these numbers are being
[1:09:15] reflective of what we are being
[1:09:17] able to do in the community. So
[1:09:21] if you see in 2025, we had 14
[1:09:22] fatalities resulting in these
[1:09:25] crashes, uh, and now we have
[1:09:27] nine. And then as far as the,
[1:09:28] the, uh, fatalities, the
[1:09:30] numbers were 16 last year when
[1:09:32] we have nine on there as well.
[1:09:35] So I hope this is reflective of
[1:09:36] what we
[1:09:37] re doing in terms of
[1:09:40] slowing traffic down and making
[1:09:42] sure that, um, you know, those
[1:09:43] that are coming through here
[1:09:44] understand that you need to
[1:09:45] slow down when you
[1:09:45] re coming
[1:09:46] through the city of
[1:09:47] Fayetteville. Then you
[1:09:48] ll see
[1:09:50] the, uh, the circumstances that
[1:09:52] contributed, that contributed
[1:09:55] to the, uh, these fatalities,
[1:09:58] as you see there in 2025, ten
[1:10:01] of them, ten of those incidents
[1:10:03] were speeding that contributed
[1:10:05] to those fatalities, uh, for
[1:10:09] this year, we have five. So I
[1:10:10] believe the message is getting
[1:10:13] out there on here is our
[1:10:16] traffic. Uh, stop reporting
[1:10:17] where you see, we
[1:10:18] re all almost
[1:10:22] 2500 stops. 23,400 more stops
[1:10:24] than last year. Again, that
[1:10:24] s
[1:10:25] with the increase of what we
[1:10:25] re
[1:10:28] doing. Also with our personnel.
[1:10:28] We
[1:10:29] re having more personnel on
[1:10:31] the street so that we can be a
[1:10:33] lot more proactive versus being
[1:10:36] reactive. Again, you
[1:10:37] ll see the
[1:10:39] demographics regarding the
[1:10:41] vehicle stops, vehicle searches
[1:10:43] in between there. If you look
[1:10:46] at 25 among all three of the
[1:10:48] demographics, the numbers isn
[1:10:48] t
[1:10:50] really changing. Now what you
[1:10:52] will see, uh, there was an
[1:10:54] increase in, uh, vehicle stops,
[1:10:56] but you also see that there was
[1:10:59] a decrease in, in searches, but
[1:11:01] we still have maintained the
[1:11:03] same numbers across the board.
[1:11:04] Uh, between all three
[1:11:13] demographics. This is one of
[1:11:15] our the, uh, initiatives
[1:11:15] the governor
[1:11:16] s highway safety
[1:11:19] program, where speed kills and
[1:11:21] no, the limit 2026 and these
[1:11:24] particular, um, uh, traffic and
[1:11:26] enforcement activities, you
[1:11:26] ll
[1:11:28] see that we, uh, had over 600
[1:11:31] citations issued with, uh,
[1:11:32] speeding being the
[1:11:36] overwhelming, um, uh, citation,
[1:11:38] uh, during or violation during
[1:11:40] these particular, um,
[1:11:47] encounters. Here we are, our
[1:11:49] Internal Affairs unit, where
[1:11:51] you look at our numbers, uh,
[1:11:54] use of force, uh, has increased
[1:11:56] by ten. Uh, but then you
[1:11:56] ll see
[1:11:58] the most number, the number
[1:11:58] that
[1:11:59] s going to stick out to
[1:12:01] you right now is our internal
[1:12:02] departmental, uh,
[1:12:04] investigations. And, uh, that
[1:12:04] s
[1:12:06] been as a result of, uh,
[1:12:08] officers not appearing at
[1:12:09] court. So we
[1:12:10] re holding our
[1:12:12] officers accountable, and and
[1:12:12] we
[1:12:14] re just making sure that
[1:12:15] they understand that it
[1:12:15] s
[1:12:16] critical for them to be at
[1:12:17] court. So, uh, you
[1:12:18] ll see the
[1:12:20] numbers being reflected, and
[1:12:20] then you
[1:12:22] ll see our
[1:12:24] exonerations, uh, sustained.
[1:12:27] And, uh, complaints, voters and
[1:12:35] unfounded allegations. Again,
[1:12:37] this slide again, will reflect
[1:12:38] in terms of the the biggest,
[1:12:40] um, uh, stand out is the
[1:12:42] suspensions. And again, the
[1:12:43] majority of those are what
[1:12:43] s
[1:12:45] driving those are failing to
[1:12:53] appear to court. As you see,
[1:12:55] our department mental staffing
[1:12:56] and that
[1:12:58] s uh, as of AUGUST
[1:13:01] 12th. And, uh, if you see,
[1:13:01] we
[1:13:04] re in the 90s in every one
[1:13:06] of these categories, every one
[1:13:08] of these categories. And if you
[1:13:10] notice our numbers last year
[1:13:13] around this time, we were at 64
[1:13:14] vacant positions, and we
[1:13:14] re at
[1:13:15] 32 now. But that
[1:13:16] s with the
[1:13:18] eight additional that that was
[1:13:20] added. So we would actually be
[1:13:23] at, I want to say at 23. So, so
[1:13:24] you see, uh, we
[1:13:26] re well into
[1:13:29] um, the uh, in that, in that
[1:13:31] down range in terms of reducing
[1:13:32] our numbers, we
[1:13:33] re projecting
[1:13:34] based on what we see right now,
[1:13:38] we have about 17 or 18 that are
[1:13:40] in the pipeline. And we
[1:13:41] re
[1:13:41] we
[1:13:42] re projecting that by
[1:13:42] JANUARY
[1:13:44] s class, we will have
[1:13:46] every vacancy filled.
[1:13:46] That
[1:13:49] s also head on. Sir.
[1:13:50] Yeah.
[1:13:51] Very good. Let
[1:13:52] s first time
[1:13:53] that I can remember that being
[1:13:53] the case.
[1:13:55] And and you know, there
[1:13:55] s
[1:13:55] there
[1:13:56] s a lot of, you know, in
[1:13:57] terms of what we
[1:13:57] re doing,
[1:13:57] we
[1:13:59] re also, you know, um,
[1:14:01] attracting a lot of laterals.
[1:14:03] And those laterals are critical
[1:14:04] because we
[1:14:04] re able to get them
[1:14:06] on the street anywhere from
[1:14:08] four weeks to six weeks, you
[1:14:09] know? So that
[1:14:10] s how we
[1:14:10] re able
[1:14:11] to do that. But we
[1:14:11] re also
[1:14:13] doing some innovative, uh,
[1:14:15] recruiting in terms of we
[1:14:15] re
[1:14:17] bringing in canines from other
[1:14:19] states. People are applying
[1:14:21] from Connecticut, you know, to
[1:14:22] become a k-9 officer here in
[1:14:23] Fayetteville. We
[1:14:24] re attracting
[1:14:26] officers from New York, uh,
[1:14:29] Kentucky. I mean, we have a
[1:14:31] really wide scope in terms of
[1:14:31] what we
[1:14:32] re attracting and we
[1:14:32] re
[1:14:34] bringing them here. So what
[1:14:34] that
[1:14:36] s doing is helping us
[1:14:38] increase the level of
[1:14:40] experience from, you know, like
[1:14:42] I said, when we first got on
[1:14:43] here, uh, when I first got on
[1:14:46] here last year, 75% of our
[1:14:49] officers had five years or less
[1:14:51] of experience. Wow. So now with
[1:14:53] attracting and bringing in
[1:14:54] these, uh, laterals, uh,
[1:14:56] laterals that have left and
[1:14:57] came back. So we
[1:14:58] re really
[1:14:59] making an impact. And what
[1:14:59] we
[1:15:01] re being able to do and, and
[1:15:02] some of these innovative
[1:15:04] programs. So I know patrol is,
[1:15:05] is really happy to see what
[1:15:05] we
[1:15:06] re going to be able to do in
[1:15:10] terms of 15, uh, officers per
[1:15:12] squad. So then now that is
[1:15:12] that
[1:15:13] s going to entail that
[1:15:13] we
[1:15:14] ll be able to be proactive
[1:15:16] and not only reactive, and then
[1:15:17] we
[1:15:18] ll be able to bring back our
[1:15:20] cert team as well to, you know,
[1:15:21] to deal with any kind of
[1:15:23] projects that we MAY have in
[1:15:25] the community. So again, we
[1:15:26] re
[1:15:26] we
[1:15:28] re definitely in a great
[1:15:29] spot in terms of what we
[1:15:29] re
[1:15:30] looking at right now.
[1:15:32] Okay.
[1:15:34] Again, this is our departmental
[1:15:35] staffing. Of course, you know,
[1:15:37] we are in a very transient
[1:15:40] community where we have a
[1:15:43] significant, um, a lot of our,
[1:15:45] uh, employees are also, um,
[1:15:47] military connected. So many
[1:15:50] times we have those that, um,
[1:15:51] when, you know, their spouses
[1:15:52] ready to PCs, we
[1:15:53] re also losing
[1:15:55] those good employees. And, you
[1:15:56] know, then we have some that
[1:15:58] come in, so but we always take
[1:16:00] them and, you know, but we
[1:16:01] understand have that
[1:16:02] understanding that this is a
[1:16:04] transient community with Fort
[1:16:07] Bragg. So but we always value,
[1:16:09] uh, the experience, that those
[1:16:11] employees bring to us, um, day
[1:16:15] in and day out. For those that
[1:16:18] are unaware, in APRIL we
[1:16:21] launched our Faith pd podcast.
[1:16:22] And so we
[1:16:23] re utilizing these to
[1:16:25] kind of make sure and put that
[1:16:26] narrative out there in terms of
[1:16:27] our local policing, our
[1:16:30] department priorities, and
[1:16:31] letting people know the people
[1:16:32] behind the badge and also a
[1:16:34] professional staff. So, uh, you
[1:16:37] can catch it. Uh, I believe the
[1:16:39] second Friday of each month,
[1:16:41] either on Spotify, Apple or
[1:16:43] iHeart and YouTube. So we
[1:16:43] re
[1:16:44] getting out there. We
[1:16:44] re going
[1:16:45] to try to have that, that,
[1:16:46] that, that, that voice out
[1:16:49] there. MR.. Uh, Ferguson, I
[1:16:50] know you have that voice. We
[1:16:50] re
[1:16:51] going to get you on there so
[1:16:52] you can help us out.
[1:16:55] Martin.
[1:16:55] Now you
[1:16:56] ll see our community
[1:16:59] events. Um, we have several our
[1:17:01] Citizens Police academy, our
[1:17:03] graduation there. Um, that
[1:17:03] s
[1:17:05] depicted on this slide. Also,
[1:17:07] our Special Olympics, our
[1:17:09] fundraiser for the torch run.
[1:17:10] And I don
[1:17:11] t know if you saw
[1:17:12] back that that that slide on
[1:17:13] the bottom left there we were
[1:17:15] running in the rain. We were
[1:17:16] running the rain. That was that
[1:17:17] was a tough one.
[1:17:17] That
[1:17:18] s commitment.
[1:17:20] Yes, sir. Then our other
[1:17:22] community events, uh, were
[1:17:24] child Abuse Awareness month.
[1:17:26] Uh, the pinwheels for the Child
[1:17:29] Advocacy Center. And we also,
[1:17:29] uh, showing our
[1:17:31] telecommunications week where
[1:17:33] they had cultural foods from
[1:17:36] New Orleans, uh, Latina Latin
[1:17:38] food and Italian food. Also
[1:17:39] displayed during that. It was
[1:17:41] very, very festive. Uh, during
[1:17:44] that, during that week. And
[1:17:45] then here on this slide, here
[1:17:45] s
[1:17:48] our National Police Week where
[1:17:50] we honor those officers that
[1:17:53] made that ultimate sacrifice
[1:17:54] while recognizing the
[1:17:55] dedication of those that
[1:17:57] to serve. And of
[1:17:58] course, we had our awards and
[1:18:00] promotion ceremony, which we
[1:18:02] also recognize the dedicated
[1:18:03] hard work of our officers and
[1:18:07] professional staff, as you see
[1:18:09] here. Our motto, Faith and
[1:18:10] service, pride and commitment
[1:18:12] and dedication to excellence
[1:18:14] and our vision, statement and
[1:18:16] mission statement. And at this
[1:18:17] time, I will take your
[1:18:18] questions.
[1:18:19] All right. Thank you. Chief. We
[1:18:21] do have a couple of questions.
[1:18:22] Council member hair.
[1:18:24] Well, thank you, mayor and
[1:18:27] chief. Uh, thank you for you
[1:18:29] and our team for all that
[1:18:29] you
[1:18:32] re doing. Uh, man, I
[1:18:32] m glad
[1:18:34] to hear that number is going to
[1:18:36] change where we
[1:18:36] re going to be
[1:18:40] fully staffed. Uh, real soon.
[1:18:41] And, uh, I
[1:18:42] ll go back a, you
[1:18:47] know, a few police chiefs. And
[1:18:48] so this sounds real great. So
[1:18:50] thank you. And everything that
[1:18:50] you
[1:18:51] re doing and that your
[1:18:53] staff is doing, and of course,
[1:18:56] the council with, uh, putting
[1:18:58] in the budget to help, uh, give
[1:19:01] additional dollars to pull our
[1:19:04] men and women in, uh, I got a
[1:19:06] couple of questions. One, when
[1:19:09] you said about the lateral
[1:19:10] folks are coming in, you said
[1:19:12] some are coming back.
[1:19:13] Yes, sir.
[1:19:16] And first, explain what that
[1:19:17] meant.
[1:19:18] So we
[1:19:21] ve had officers that were
[1:19:23] previously employed with sfpd
[1:19:25] that went on to other
[1:19:29] departments or, uh, sought
[1:19:30] employment, uh, in another
[1:19:32] career field. But they are also
[1:19:34] coming back now to the police
[1:19:35] department.
[1:19:35] So we
[1:19:36] re looking more and more
[1:19:39] inviting to support them coming
[1:19:40] back.
[1:19:41] I believe. So they
[1:19:41] re they
[1:19:41] re
[1:19:42] getting the message. They
[1:19:42] re
[1:19:42] seeing what
[1:19:43] s going on, sir?
[1:19:46] Yeah. Explain to me what you
[1:19:50] met, uh, on the k-9. You
[1:19:50] re
[1:19:52] getting, uh, some canine folks
[1:19:54] that are coming in lateral, and
[1:19:55] I don
[1:19:55] t know if this is getting
[1:19:57] ready to be a dumb question
[1:19:58] here, but in front of you, you
[1:20:00] said canine. And, uh, a guy
[1:20:02] homeowner that owns German
[1:20:04] Shepherds. I immediately
[1:20:07] thought about the dogs. Also,
[1:20:07] when they
[1:20:08] re coming in lateral.
[1:20:11] Is that just the individual?
[1:20:11] So we
[1:20:14] ve actually have two, um,
[1:20:16] two candidates that have
[1:20:18] canines that they want to bring
[1:20:19] those canines with them.
[1:20:20] Okay, okay, okay.
[1:20:21] It wasn
[1:20:21] t so that
[1:20:22] s that
[1:20:22] s you
[1:20:23] know, that
[1:20:24] s really when you
[1:20:25] can bring on a team like that.
[1:20:28] Right? Offhand no training. You
[1:20:28] know, they
[1:20:29] ll just have to, you
[1:20:31] know, get some of the, um,
[1:20:33] standards in terms of how we do
[1:20:34] things and our, our, our
[1:20:37] policies and SOPs, but pretty
[1:20:38] much they can hit the ground
[1:20:39] running when it comes to stuff
[1:20:40] like that.
[1:20:42] Okay. Now close to getting
[1:20:45] close to my end here. Uh, go to
[1:20:50] your slide with, um, sound
[1:20:54] thinking. Yeah, sound thinking,
[1:20:57] uh, shots spotter JANUARY
[1:21:01] through JUNE of 26. Give say
[1:21:03] those numbers out loud. Uh,
[1:21:04] once again, because I don
[1:21:04] t
[1:21:06] want to mix them up, even
[1:21:07] though I see what I see in
[1:21:10] front of me. Tell me the, um,
[1:21:13] the support with the sound
[1:21:15] thinking, uh, ShotSpotter for
[1:21:16] that time of the
[1:21:17] recoveries.
[1:21:18] So hold.
[1:21:24] On just a minute.
[1:21:27] So out of the 213 alerts, we
[1:21:28] ve
[1:21:30] had eight guns recovered, eight
[1:21:35] individuals arrested and 317
[1:21:36] shell casings that are also
[1:21:37] recovered.
[1:21:38] Okay, so that
[1:21:38] s been a big
[1:21:39] plus.
[1:21:41] It will. And one of the things
[1:21:43] for us, we understand that this
[1:21:45] is just one tool in our
[1:21:45] toolbox.
[1:21:46] Right?
[1:21:47] Right. Um, but but as we
[1:21:49] continue moving forward and
[1:21:51] collecting these shell cases,
[1:21:52] those will help us connect the
[1:21:54] dots on, you know, whether
[1:21:54] there
[1:21:56] s aggravated assaults,
[1:21:57] shooting into occupied
[1:21:59] dwellings or vehicles. And
[1:21:59] that
[1:22:00] s what we continue to just
[1:22:02] kind of hold on because it is
[1:22:04] going to connect the dots when
[1:22:05] we get an individual or we
[1:22:07] seize the weapon. And at that
[1:22:10] time we can pin or connect the
[1:22:11] nexus to those individuals with
[1:22:13] those weapons and those
[1:22:14] previous incidents.
[1:22:15] Yes, sir. Thank you. I don
[1:22:15] t
[1:22:17] want to take up all the time. I
[1:22:18] know my colleague is going to
[1:22:20] have some questions. I was also
[1:22:22] looking over at the juvenile
[1:22:25] data report, and I
[1:22:26] m glad to
[1:22:28] hear, uh, because of negative
[1:22:30] things that have have been
[1:22:30] said. I
[1:22:32] m glad to hear that.
[1:22:35] Until you come up on a young
[1:22:37] adult, uh, that
[1:22:38] s when you find
[1:22:40] out the information that
[1:22:40] s
[1:22:42] needed about that particular
[1:22:44] person, not just running up on
[1:22:46] them. So it was good to hear
[1:22:49] that. And also wanted to say
[1:22:51] congratulations to you. I don
[1:22:51] t
[1:22:51] think you
[1:22:52] ve been before us
[1:22:55] since you were put into the
[1:22:55] governor
[1:22:56] s committee. Whatever
[1:22:58] that, uh, name of that. But
[1:22:59] congratulations on that, sir.
[1:23:00] Thank you sir.
[1:23:01] Thank you mayor.
[1:23:04] All right. Uh, Mayor pro tem.
[1:23:05] Thank you mayor. Thank you
[1:23:07] chief. Great report. Numbers
[1:23:09] look great. I just want to add
[1:23:12] a few comments. One is your
[1:23:15] Emporium speeding campaign. I
[1:23:15] m
[1:23:17] glad that, uh, the numbers are
[1:23:18] going down and the speeding. I
[1:23:19] know that is your motto. To
[1:23:20] make sure that when they come
[1:23:21] through Fayetteville, they know
[1:23:23] that they need to slow down.
[1:23:24] Uh, but I
[1:23:25] m a emphasize school
[1:23:27] started today. I
[1:23:28] m gonna say
[1:23:29] that again. School started
[1:23:31] today. Sir. I know you did a
[1:23:32] campaign around the school
[1:23:34] zone. I know you did. On 295
[1:23:36] Raeford Road, Raleigh Road,
[1:23:38] Ramsey Street, Morganton Road.
[1:23:40] But school started today.
[1:23:40] Yes, sir.
[1:23:42] Might want to think about that.
[1:23:43] Uh.
[1:23:44] Sir, I already tell you. Uh,
[1:23:45] Chief Wallace already has
[1:23:47] plans. About what? What
[1:23:47] s going
[1:23:48] on? So he already talked to me
[1:23:51] this morning, and, uh, he
[1:23:52] already has a plan in terms to
[1:23:54] address, uh, some of those, uh,
[1:23:55] you know, in terms of that as
[1:23:56] well.
[1:23:57] Well, let me just say this, uh,
[1:23:58] I was talking with the mayor
[1:23:59] this morning. I was telling him
[1:24:01] I was going out, uh, to one of
[1:24:02] my hot spots in the school
[1:24:04] zone, and I was glad to see
[1:24:05] that, uh, Chief Hunt had his
[1:24:07] people out there at Stony Point
[1:24:08] and Century that we talked
[1:24:10] about. MR. Mayor, we got about
[1:24:12] that traffic. Yeah. Uh, I just
[1:24:16] want our citizens to know that
[1:24:16] we
[1:24:17] re going to do all we can to
[1:24:20] make sure our kids are safe in
[1:24:21] school zones and outside of
[1:24:23] school zones, not just this
[1:24:25] year, but every year. Uh,
[1:24:26] speaking of that, I wanted to
[1:24:27] make sure you gave some props
[1:24:29] to your crime prevention
[1:24:30] specialist, because I think the
[1:24:32] reason the motor vehicle theft
[1:24:33] Break-Ins has went down.
[1:24:34] Because every time I turn
[1:24:36] around, they are emphasizing
[1:24:37] motor vehicles. Lock your
[1:24:38] vehicle up and don
[1:24:38] t leave your
[1:24:39] guns in your cars.
[1:24:40] The 9 P.M. Routine.
[1:24:42] The 9 P.M. Routine. I mean,
[1:24:43] they recycle it over and over
[1:24:44] and over again. I know my
[1:24:46] colleague, uh, recognized, uh,
[1:24:48] McNair recognized one, uh, I
[1:24:48] can
[1:24:49] t remember what her name
[1:24:51] was, but all of them need to be
[1:24:53] recognized for the great job
[1:24:53] that they do at all these
[1:24:55] communities that we have across
[1:24:56] the entire city, uh,
[1:24:58] emphasizing that, yes, the
[1:25:00] second one is for, uh, Chief
[1:25:03] Hunt. We just renewed our sro
[1:25:05] contract. Are we meeting our
[1:25:06] obligations with how many SROs
[1:25:07] we need to have in the high
[1:25:09] schools, the junior high
[1:25:10] schools and elementary schools
[1:25:11] and so forth and so on?
[1:25:12] Yes, sir.
[1:25:13] And what is the next
[1:25:14] requirement that we have? We
[1:25:17] have how many schools?
[1:25:18] 33.
[1:25:20] And we only have 18 SROs, I
[1:25:20] think.
[1:25:21] Yes, sir.
[1:25:23] So is it still shared services?
[1:25:25] It I mean, right now the, uh,
[1:25:26] Cumberland County sheriff, uh,
[1:25:27] Cumberland County School System
[1:25:29] is paying for that. And so
[1:25:30] there will be some talk in
[1:25:31] terms of adding at least
[1:25:35] another three, uh, here. Um,
[1:25:36] when when we come up to that
[1:25:37] point. Yes, sir.
[1:25:38] Last question I was going to
[1:25:39] ask you, but I
[1:25:40] m gonna ask you,
[1:25:41] do we have dogs? Uh, bomb
[1:25:43] sniffing dogs.
[1:25:43] We have one.
[1:25:44] We have one.
[1:25:44] Yes, sir.
[1:25:46] All right. Thank you, chief.
[1:25:46] That
[1:25:47] s all I know. Yes, sir.
[1:25:47] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[1:25:50] All right. Thank you,
[1:25:51] Councilmember Jones.
[1:25:52] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Very
[1:25:53] quick. Thanks for the report.
[1:25:55] Provided some excellent
[1:25:57] information. Uh, just to make
[1:25:58] sure I got that correctly.
[1:26:00] Homicides are down over a
[1:26:02] little over 54%. Is that
[1:26:03] correct? That is correct. All
[1:26:04] right. Now, I wanted to bring
[1:26:05] that forward because a lot of
[1:26:07] times I hear in the community
[1:26:08] and they when you hear about
[1:26:10] homicide and it
[1:26:10] s it
[1:26:11] s in the
[1:26:12] media and it gets attention, I
[1:26:13] get it. And it gives the
[1:26:16] perception that it happens a
[1:26:18] lot. I know one is too many. I,
[1:26:20] I totally understand that. Uh,
[1:26:21] but it gives the perception
[1:26:22] that it
[1:26:23] s consistently
[1:26:25] occurring. And so I, I
[1:26:25] m glad
[1:26:27] that you brought that statistic
[1:26:29] up, uh, for that. So I really,
[1:26:30] really am glad for, uh, for
[1:26:32] that, especially with your
[1:26:32] clearance rate. That
[1:26:33] s
[1:26:34] phenomenal. And I want to tie
[1:26:36] that in to the sound thinking a
[1:26:38] lot of my areas that some of
[1:26:39] them, they wish they had it in
[1:26:41] their areas as well, but they
[1:26:44] were, uh, for the most part in
[1:26:46] support of it. Once they kind
[1:26:47] of understand. I think you did
[1:26:48] it. I don
[1:26:49] t think you did a
[1:26:51] good job with elaborating, such
[1:26:54] as the shell casings and how
[1:26:56] you MAY not see that immediate
[1:26:58] effect, but through the process
[1:27:00] of your investigation, it might
[1:27:01] be six months down or whatever
[1:27:03] it is, it could lead to
[1:27:04] something. So I think that that
[1:27:06] is a benefit, uh, of that. So
[1:27:08] my two, three quick questions
[1:27:10] for you, uh, in regards to the
[1:27:13] youth context, um, you
[1:27:16] mentioned the reasonable
[1:27:17] suspicion, probable cause
[1:27:18] aspect. Could you just give
[1:27:20] give us an idea, give the
[1:27:22] public an idea of what that
[1:27:24] potentially looks looks like.
[1:27:28] So what that looks like is not
[1:27:30] one. One call comes in, says,
[1:27:31] hey, there
[1:27:33] s two suspicious,
[1:27:36] um, subjects, uh, pulling car
[1:27:39] handles. And in the community
[1:27:43] on the street, we arrive there,
[1:27:45] we see two individuals matching
[1:27:46] that description. That
[1:27:46] s when
[1:27:50] we approach them. Then we
[1:27:51] determine that there are
[1:27:52] juveniles and they
[1:27:52] ll that
[1:27:52] s
[1:27:55] how they get, um, you know,
[1:27:57] related I our statistics.
[1:27:58] Understood, understood. And
[1:28:00] again, I know there MAY be some
[1:28:01] nuances, but just I wanted to
[1:28:03] share that just to, uh, let
[1:28:05] folks know I really don
[1:28:05] t
[1:28:07] believe uh, and again, this is
[1:28:09] me, uh, that that you all are
[1:28:11] out there just looking, uh,
[1:28:12] just randomly doing it. And you
[1:28:13] stated that. So I appreciate
[1:28:14] that because I wanted to bring
[1:28:16] some clarity with that. Number
[1:28:18] two, uh, as it relates to, uh,
[1:28:20] vehicle searches, I do get a
[1:28:22] lot of this question from our
[1:28:23] residents. They said, well,
[1:28:23] we
[1:28:23] re we
[1:28:24] re smelling marijuana
[1:28:28] at stoplights. So,
[1:28:30] hypothetically, someone stops
[1:28:31] you, stop somebody for
[1:28:33] equipment violation or
[1:28:35] something. Is that that smell
[1:28:36] of marijuana? Is that consider
[1:28:40] a reasonable cause to acts, you
[1:28:41] know, act or however you want
[1:28:42] to ask.
[1:28:43] About probable cause to go
[1:28:45] ahead and ask, yes, yes you
[1:28:46] did.
[1:28:47] Okay, okay. And I know it MAY
[1:28:48] seem like a cop, but a lot of I
[1:28:50] get a lot of those questions.
[1:28:50] And that
[1:28:51] s some of the things
[1:28:53] that I on the other part of it,
[1:28:55] uh, some were saying, well, you
[1:28:55] know, they can
[1:28:56] t really if they
[1:28:58] stop me, you know, if they
[1:28:59] smell it, it they can they
[1:29:00] really ask me to search my
[1:29:01] vehicle or things of that
[1:29:05] nature. So I just wanted..
[1:29:07] Yes. At that point. Yes.
[1:29:07] All right.
[1:29:08] Thank you. Thank you. And
[1:29:10] lastly, uh, how are your ears?
[1:29:11] I know you all used some data
[1:29:12] and things of that nature and
[1:29:15] and just feedback, uh, areas
[1:29:16] that you plan for your
[1:29:18] speeding, uh, speeding
[1:29:20] campaign. How are how are those
[1:29:21] determined?
[1:29:22] So a lot of those are based on
[1:29:25] the calls from the, the
[1:29:27] citizens here, the residents
[1:29:29] here. Uh, a lot of the times
[1:29:31] you all receive, uh, complaints
[1:29:33] as well. And so we, we go ahead
[1:29:34] and target based on the
[1:29:36] feedback that we are receiving
[1:29:37] in terms of where the calls are
[1:29:38] coming from. And that
[1:29:39] s where
[1:29:42] we direct our resources to.
[1:29:43] Absolutely. So, uh, and this is
[1:29:45] a I, I do thank you for that.
[1:29:47] I, I would like to put out
[1:29:49] there, uh, Rosehill road and I
[1:29:51] want to give you your, uh,
[1:29:53] staff a lot of credit. I
[1:29:53] ve
[1:29:56] seen a increased presence along
[1:29:58] Rose Hill Road. I mean, very,
[1:30:00] at very strategic times in the
[1:30:02] morning, midday, afternoon, I,
[1:30:04] see them out there. Uh, so i
[1:30:04] know that
[1:30:05] s a major cut
[1:30:07] through, uh, for some areas,
[1:30:09] so. But definitely, uh, put
[1:30:10] that on your radar. I know it
[1:30:10] s
[1:30:12] already out there. So with the
[1:30:13] increased signage that they
[1:30:14] have out there and some other
[1:30:16] things that were done, uh, I
[1:30:17] just wanted to put that out
[1:30:18] there. But thank you so much.
[1:30:19] Thank you.
[1:30:20] Thank you, sir.
[1:30:22] Oh, yeah. All right. Thank you.
[1:30:24] Uh, Councilmember McMillan.
[1:30:26] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Thank
[1:30:27] you, chief. I appreciate all
[1:30:28] you do. And thank you for this
[1:30:31] report. Um, I had a question
[1:30:34] about how we track, how we
[1:30:37] track traffic, stop data. Um,
[1:30:38] earlier this year, earlier this
[1:30:40] summer, the governor signed a
[1:30:41] budget that did not include a
[1:30:43] general statute that
[1:30:44] s been in
[1:30:46] place since 2002. Uh, the
[1:30:47] really forced departments
[1:30:49] across North Carolina to track
[1:30:51] incidents by race. Uh, to be
[1:30:53] able to look at disparities,
[1:30:54] especially in policing and
[1:30:57] traffic stops, as you know, in
[1:30:57] Fayetteville, it
[1:30:59] s, uh, it
[1:30:59] s
[1:31:00] caused us to see that there are
[1:31:02] some disparities. Uh, we
[1:31:03] ve
[1:31:04] dealt with driving while black
[1:31:06] as, as a, as a result, you
[1:31:07] know, some of those
[1:31:09] disparities. I wanted to hear
[1:31:10] from you. What what your
[1:31:11] department
[1:31:13] s take is on, uh, on
[1:31:15] the loss of this requirement
[1:31:17] and what your is in
[1:31:18] terms of continuing to track
[1:31:20] this data.
[1:31:22] Yes, sir. So when we received
[1:31:24] that information, uh, for us,
[1:31:26] it was also we were surprised
[1:31:28] that that actually went ahead
[1:31:30] and passed, uh, but, uh, from
[1:31:32] us, after discussing with my
[1:31:35] staff and we had a
[1:31:37] overwhelming, um, uh, agreement
[1:31:39] in terms of, for us as a
[1:31:39] department, it
[1:31:40] s going to
[1:31:42] continue to be in our policy so
[1:31:44] that we have that transparency
[1:31:45] for the community and maintain
[1:31:47] that trust. So for us as a
[1:31:48] department, even though it
[1:31:48] s
[1:31:48] it
[1:31:49] s no longer a requirement,
[1:31:52] we will be continuing the
[1:31:54] traffic stop reports as part of
[1:31:56] our requirement. And everything
[1:31:57] that we do as a department.
[1:31:59] I appreciate hearing you say
[1:32:02] that, uh, in public, uh, also
[1:32:04] would ask the council to think
[1:32:06] about what we can do to ensure
[1:32:07] that possibly that
[1:32:07] s an
[1:32:08] ordinance or something that
[1:32:08] s
[1:32:11] solid, uh, especially in light
[1:32:12] of how things are changing
[1:32:14] legislatively at the state.
[1:32:15] State level. Uh, I also wanted
[1:32:18] to ask chief about, uh,
[1:32:21] information on the sro program.
[1:32:22] Uh, we had a discussion earlier
[1:32:24] this year about, uh, what an
[1:32:27] awesome responsibility it is,
[1:32:29] uh, to have police officers, a
[1:32:33] uniformed, uh, in schools and
[1:32:34] also how we need to take some
[1:32:36] safeguards and understand what
[1:32:38] impacts that has on our
[1:32:40] students, especially. And I
[1:32:42] want to make a request tonight.
[1:32:44] Um, uh, if you look at slide
[1:32:46] ten, it does show, uh, some
[1:32:48] some responses. Uh, it does
[1:32:49] show some very basic
[1:32:51] information about our
[1:32:53] interaction. Uh, but the point
[1:32:54] that I brought up earlier this
[1:32:56] year that I think data would
[1:32:59] allow us to look at, uh, is how
[1:33:00] this could impact the school to
[1:33:03] prison pipeline and having, uh,
[1:33:05] juveniles, kids and students
[1:33:07] who are justice impacted, uh,
[1:33:08] and how important it is to
[1:33:10] track that. So there are some,
[1:33:10] uh, there
[1:33:11] s some measures like
[1:33:15] school based or race arrests,
[1:33:16] number of citations.
[1:33:17] Say that again, sir.
[1:33:18] Uh, school based arrests.
[1:33:19] School based like tracking
[1:33:20] that.
[1:33:20] Okay.
[1:33:23] Tracking citations? Yes, sir.
[1:33:24] Tracking the number of court
[1:33:26] referrals that come through the
[1:33:29] sro program, especially, uh,
[1:33:31] track and use of force
[1:33:33] incidents with our students.
[1:33:34] And then, uh, and then those
[1:33:37] same type of racial breakdowns
[1:33:37] to ensure that we
[1:33:38] re not
[1:33:38] repeating some racial
[1:33:40] disparities that that exist on
[1:33:42] the broader level. Okay. Uh, I
[1:33:43] would like to see those. And
[1:33:43] I
[1:33:44] m sure more of my colleagues
[1:33:45] will be interested in seeing
[1:33:47] that on a on a quarterly basis.
[1:33:49] Okay. And just so you know, to,
[1:33:50] for, you know, I, I actually
[1:33:53] had one of the SROs that was
[1:33:54] talking, uh, he actually came
[1:33:55] from the county and
[1:33:57] transitioned over, uh, to the
[1:34:01] city. And, um, you know, one of
[1:34:03] the I don
[1:34:05] t think the public
[1:34:07] really knows how much of an
[1:34:09] impact it has in terms of
[1:34:11] having these SROs in our
[1:34:13] schools, because he had he told
[1:34:15] me a story of one of his, one
[1:34:17] of the students, um, in the
[1:34:20] school that she never spoke to
[1:34:22] him. And at one time there was
[1:34:25] an incident where, uh, he had
[1:34:27] to restrain her from and, you
[1:34:28] know, a fight that was going on
[1:34:31] in the school. Uh, and she was
[1:34:34] very, very, um, disruptive. Um,
[1:34:36] and but he maintained
[1:34:38] continued speaking with that
[1:34:40] young lady. By the time the end
[1:34:41] of the school year came out,
[1:34:43] she came and hugged him. And
[1:34:45] for him, it was just one of
[1:34:47] those things where he sees the
[1:34:48] difference in it. I mean, and
[1:34:51] this is happening across our
[1:34:53] schools, but nobody ever really
[1:34:55] knows that because we
[1:34:56] re not
[1:34:57] talking about that publicly.
[1:34:59] And I just also want to make
[1:35:01] sure that we do a better job in
[1:35:02] making sure that we are
[1:35:03] highlighting a lot of these
[1:35:05] positive encounters that are
[1:35:06] happening because it
[1:35:06] s
[1:35:07] happening every day. We just
[1:35:07] don
[1:35:08] t, you know, we don
[1:35:08] t hear
[1:35:10] about them, and we only hear
[1:35:10] about when it
[1:35:12] s negative. So I
[1:35:13] just want to make sure that we
[1:35:15] also take some, you know, that
[1:35:17] opportunity to also highlight
[1:35:19] when when the good things are
[1:35:21] also happening with our SROs.
[1:35:23] As well. And I think we also
[1:35:24] saw one of the good things,
[1:35:26] chief, tonight and hearing you,
[1:35:28] uh, underscore the importance
[1:35:29] of having probable cause and
[1:35:31] reasonable suspicion, the
[1:35:33] suspicion, uh, prior to
[1:35:34] approaching any individual,
[1:35:36] regardless of age here. And I
[1:35:37] appreciate that that is a part
[1:35:39] of the enforcement, uh, and
[1:35:40] part of what we
[1:35:40] re passing on
[1:35:42] to our officers as they go out
[1:35:43] into the field. So thank you
[1:35:44] for saying that publicly as
[1:35:44] well.
[1:35:45] Yes, sir.
[1:35:46] All right. Thank you,
[1:35:46] COUNCILMAN Davis.
[1:35:48] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Uh, first
[1:35:49] of all, thank you, sir, for the
[1:35:51] presentation. Um, I think I
[1:35:53] wanted to speak towards the
[1:35:54] speeding. Um, you guys have
[1:35:56] been on a tremendous job,
[1:35:57] almost to the point where I
[1:35:57] m
[1:35:58] scared to leave my house now.
[1:35:59] Okay, to be honest with you,
[1:36:00] but I don
[1:36:00] t speak.
[1:36:00] That
[1:36:00] s that
[1:36:00] s what we
[1:36:01] re
[1:36:01] trying.
[1:36:01] I don
[1:36:02] t speak, by the way. Um,
[1:36:02] but.
[1:36:05] What are you scared for, MR.
[1:36:05] Mayor?
[1:36:07] Um, I do want to ask you,
[1:36:08] though, um, there was a
[1:36:10] comment, made a question asked
[1:36:12] at the, uh, coffee with the
[1:36:13] mayor this morning in reference
[1:36:16] to, um, officers having to meet
[1:36:18] a quota on giving out tickets.
[1:36:19] Could you speak to that so that
[1:36:21] we can, you know.
[1:36:24] Absolutely, absolutely no quota
[1:36:25] with tickets. Okay. That that
[1:36:27] does not exist. Thank you. That
[1:36:28] does not exist.
[1:36:30] Thank you. All right, um,
[1:36:31] before we go to round two for
[1:36:33] Mayor pro tem, I did have a
[1:36:34] couple of things I want to say.
[1:36:37] One. Um, chief, thank you for
[1:36:39] the thoroughness in the report.
[1:36:40] I want I wanted to point out
[1:36:41] something for the for the
[1:36:44] listening audience that, you
[1:36:44] know, we
[1:36:46] ve heard from two of
[1:36:47] the three components of public
[1:36:48] safety tonight. We
[1:36:48] ve heard
[1:36:50] from fire from police. I see,
[1:36:52] uh, MR. Jones back there with
[1:36:54] Oakes. The combination of what
[1:36:56] you all are doing are leading
[1:36:58] to these positive numbers that
[1:37:01] homicides almost in half, that
[1:37:03] these juvenile related issues
[1:37:05] that we have, uh, are trending
[1:37:07] in the right way. And so, you
[1:37:08] know, we
[1:37:09] ve gone through some
[1:37:11] tough times to make some tough
[1:37:13] decisions. But, you know,
[1:37:13] numbers don
[1:37:14] t have an opinion.
[1:37:15] They don
[1:37:16] t have an affiliation.
[1:37:16] They don
[1:37:17] t they don
[1:37:17] t they
[1:37:17] re
[1:37:20] not biased. Their numbers. And
[1:37:22] these are factual numbers that
[1:37:23] say that the combination of
[1:37:25] these things are working
[1:37:27] together for a good outcome.
[1:37:28] And I want to make sure we
[1:37:29] point that out from, you know,
[1:37:30] the sound thinking and
[1:37:32] ShotSpotter we had, you know,
[1:37:33] there was some public concern
[1:37:34] about that, but you
[1:37:34] re getting
[1:37:36] guns off the street. We
[1:37:36] ve seen
[1:37:38] arrests that come out of that.
[1:37:39] And and I want to make sure we
[1:37:41] highlight that the sro program,
[1:37:42] when we recently renewed that
[1:37:44] it was concerned that it was
[1:37:45] somehow going to have a
[1:37:46] negative impact. What I
[1:37:47] m
[1:37:48] seeing and I want to turn to
[1:37:48] this slide while I
[1:37:49] m saying
[1:37:50] this, if you could, the school
[1:37:53] resource officer program slide,
[1:37:54] I want the public to follow
[1:38:00] this for a minute. Uh, think it
[1:38:02] slide number. It says ten, but
[1:38:02] it
[1:38:04] s page five. In the overall
[1:38:07] scheme of things. Yeah. So
[1:38:13] basically the orange is 22 is
[1:38:14] reports. Yeah. That
[1:38:15] s incident
[1:38:16] reports okay. And then it calls
[1:38:21] for service okay. And so the
[1:38:24] comparison from year to year
[1:38:26] where is that that component.
[1:38:30] Because because you, you have a
[1:38:31] calls for service versus
[1:38:33] incident report. So how do you
[1:38:35] compare uh year to year on
[1:38:35] that.
[1:38:36] So we
[1:38:38] re into our second year
[1:38:39] of doing this now. And so now
[1:38:40] as I stated, we we
[1:38:41] re changing
[1:38:44] up our numbers from how we
[1:38:46] were. We were first doing it
[1:38:47] from AUGUST.
[1:38:48] From school calendar year.
[1:38:51] So I would say probably the end
[1:38:51] of this year, then we
[1:38:52] ll be
[1:38:53] able to get, you know, full
[1:38:55] year and then start making a
[1:38:55] comparison.
[1:38:55] So it
[1:38:56] ll be a solid 12 month
[1:38:58] comparison. Right? Okay. Okay.
[1:39:00] All right. That was one of the
[1:39:03] questions. And then two, um I
[1:39:05] saw that uh, on your on your
[1:39:07] gun seizures. Uh, I wrote
[1:39:11] myself a note on that. Um, you
[1:39:16] had. There out of the traffic
[1:39:21] stops, 20, 25, there were 167
[1:39:23] guns collectively seized. And
[1:39:24] of course, these are illegal
[1:39:26] weapons. Not not legal weapons.
[1:39:27] Right. Or does this count
[1:39:28] everything? Well, why would you
[1:39:30] see a legal weapon?
[1:39:32] It could be if if it was used
[1:39:34] in a crime or it wasn
[1:39:34] t, you
[1:39:35] know, it had to been some type
[1:39:37] of crime. So some.
[1:39:39] Prompted decision. Right. So
[1:39:43] 167 case last year 143 this
[1:39:44] year. These are just from the
[1:39:46] vehicle searches. Now does that
[1:39:50] also include uh or any of these
[1:39:51] statistics in any of these
[1:39:53] other categories, like where it
[1:39:54] says the number of weapons
[1:39:56] recovered from ShotSpotter? Um,
[1:39:58] so the is there a possibility
[1:39:59] that you responded to a
[1:40:01] ShotSpotter alert? But it also
[1:40:02] shows up on a on a vehicle?
[1:40:04] Stop it. Probably not. Correct.
[1:40:08] Well, probably a chance, but I
[1:40:10] mean, what we did, we kind of
[1:40:12] isolated the ShotSpotter and
[1:40:14] made that specific, uh, on
[1:40:15] those particular sides. So
[1:40:17] where you see the eight, eight
[1:40:19] weapons that were seized, that
[1:40:21] was specifically to
[1:40:21] ShotSpotter.
[1:40:22] Gotcha. Because I
[1:40:23] m just trying
[1:40:24] to get a collective total
[1:40:24] because that
[1:40:25] s a lot of guns.
[1:40:25] It
[1:40:26] s coming off the street
[1:40:28] between what I saw from the
[1:40:31] juvenile report, which was, um,
[1:40:32] and I don
[1:40:33] t know if if the
[1:40:34] public is tracking that, but
[1:40:36] cities across the country, I
[1:40:37] talked to mayors all the time.
[1:40:39] There has been an influx of
[1:40:41] guns in the availability of
[1:40:42] guns. And this is huge that
[1:40:43] you
[1:40:43] re you
[1:40:44] re scoring, you
[1:40:47] know, 130, 40 guns in traffic.
[1:40:47] You
[1:40:48] re getting some from
[1:40:49] ShotSpotter. You
[1:40:49] re getting
[1:40:50] others from from other sources.
[1:40:52] So you want to speak to that.
[1:40:54] So in terms of this so let
[1:40:54] s
[1:40:56] say for this traffic stop. So
[1:40:56] I
[1:40:57] ll give you an example. You
[1:41:00] could have a an alert that that
[1:41:02] goes off on the street here in
[1:41:06] Fayetteville. Um and officers
[1:41:09] respond to that alert. And
[1:41:11] within the alert there was a
[1:41:12] uh, maybe let
[1:41:12] s say there was a
[1:41:14] non woman call that accompanied
[1:41:16] it and say, hey, there was a a
[1:41:18] vehicle, um,n this area
[1:41:19] looking, you know, stopping.
[1:41:21] And so then we have a vehicle
[1:41:25] that would, um, respond. And in
[1:41:27] the course of responding to
[1:41:29] that ShotSpotter alert, they
[1:41:30] went ahead and stopped this
[1:41:32] vehicle. Gotcha. So then now
[1:41:34] you stop that vehicle, and then
[1:41:35] now you determine that it was a
[1:41:38] crime, whether, uh, related to
[1:41:41] a break in or possible, um,
[1:41:43] other, uh, possession of
[1:41:45] marijuana or anything in there.
[1:41:46] And then now you recover a
[1:41:50] weapon. So now that particular
[1:41:53] incident is included in all
[1:41:53] these traffic.
[1:41:54] Right? I understand.
[1:41:56] I understand, but you also have
[1:41:57] what we have the the
[1:41:58] ShotSpotter. So we
[1:41:59] ll do was
[1:42:01] tie that specifically to that
[1:42:03] which is that separate slide.
[1:42:05] But I would say that all that
[1:42:07] data is encompassed in the
[1:42:09] traffic stop report. That MAY
[1:42:12] have been, um, uh, under or
[1:42:13] from a ShotSpotter alert.
[1:42:15] Gotcha. All right. Well, um,
[1:42:16] that
[1:42:16] s all the questions I
[1:42:18] have. I, I just think that, you
[1:42:20] know, and then, uh, I guess the
[1:42:20] last piece, I
[1:42:21] ll say, I want to
[1:42:24] I want to one, um, publicly,
[1:42:26] uh, commend the participation
[1:42:27] of the parents. Right. That
[1:42:29] that in the curfew, there was a
[1:42:31] lot of concern about that. But
[1:42:33] what we see in the numbers,
[1:42:34] again, numbers don
[1:42:35] t have an
[1:42:39] opinion. And, uh, that, um,
[1:42:42] drug seizures are up 70%,
[1:42:45] weapons up, uh, 105%. So in
[1:42:48] other words, from 19 to 39, uh,
[1:42:51] weapons from 19 last year to 39
[1:42:53] this year. Um, and that, uh,
[1:42:56] break break ins are down 31%.
[1:42:58] Uh, and uh, motor vehicles are
[1:43:01] down 51%. So, uh, thank you. To
[1:43:02] the parents that are
[1:43:04] participating to just help us
[1:43:06] help keep some accountability
[1:43:08] in place. And and thank you to
[1:43:10] and the way this fits in and
[1:43:10] I
[1:43:10] ll, I
[1:43:11] ll get ready to pass
[1:43:13] the mic over to my colleagues.
[1:43:14] But the way this fits into the
[1:43:15] overall scheme of things, the
[1:43:17] way your departments work
[1:43:20] together, is that also, MR.
[1:43:23] Jones is going around the city,
[1:43:25] uh, creating programs that are
[1:43:27] alternatives for these kids.
[1:43:29] Uh, or some of our people in
[1:43:30] this community that have
[1:43:31] alternatives. So it
[1:43:32] s working
[1:43:33] together. Thank you. And good,
[1:43:34] good, good work for and thank
[1:43:36] you for the report tonight. So
[1:43:36] I
[1:43:37] ll go to, uh, Council Member
[1:43:38] McNair for the first round. And
[1:43:39] then we have second round
[1:43:41] lights.
[1:43:41] I
[1:43:42] m ready to make a motion.
[1:43:44] Okay, let me let me catch your
[1:43:45] colleagues. Mayor Pro tem.
[1:43:47] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Um, I
[1:43:48] just had a comment and one
[1:43:50] question that I forgot. Uh, we
[1:43:52] were talking about SROs, and I
[1:43:54] had an opportunity to speak to
[1:43:57] Jack Britt students and 71st
[1:43:58] students this year. I talked to
[1:44:00] the principal, Doctor Tillman
[1:44:01] and Jack Britt and Doctor King
[1:44:03] over at Cindy. First. They
[1:44:05] applaud the SROs in the great
[1:44:06] jobs that they
[1:44:07] re doing. When I
[1:44:09] spoke to 71st High school, uh,
[1:44:11] seniors during their graduation
[1:44:13] practice, the sro was at the
[1:44:15] door giving out pounds to all
[1:44:16] 300 students that was
[1:44:18] graduating that year. I thought
[1:44:19] that was a testament to the
[1:44:20] great job that they
[1:44:20] re doing.
[1:44:22] Uh, speaking of schools, my
[1:44:23] question I forgot to ask
[1:44:26] earlier is we had a battalion
[1:44:28] of CEOs coming here about some
[1:44:29] complaints a couple of months
[1:44:31] ago. Have all their concerns
[1:44:31] been addressed? I can
[1:44:31] t even
[1:44:33] remember what they were.
[1:44:34] The concern is that the
[1:44:35] speeding, the careless and
[1:44:38] reckless driving in the the,
[1:44:40] um, during Norton school zones
[1:44:42] so that that that issue is, is
[1:44:44] still being addressed in terms
[1:44:45] of with our traffic department
[1:44:48] and enforcement out there. Now,
[1:44:50] the commission just recently
[1:44:52] met and, um, we
[1:44:53] re on track to
[1:44:56] get the approval with all the
[1:44:57] standard operating procedures
[1:44:59] and everything else and how it
[1:45:00] will be consistent throughout
[1:45:02] the state. Um, by JANUARY is
[1:45:04] what we believe. Um, yeah,
[1:45:07] JANUARY of this upcoming year.
[1:45:09] Um, we believe that the
[1:45:10] approvals and everything else
[1:45:12] will be done by the commission,
[1:45:13] and then we
[1:45:13] ll be able to
[1:45:15] implement the school zones and
[1:45:17] the red light cameras.
[1:45:18] And how many Tecos are we short
[1:45:19] for this school year?
[1:45:22] So our numbers fluctuate. We
[1:45:27] have about 65, um, on average,
[1:45:29] and those fluctuate because
[1:45:29] it
[1:45:30] s a part time position. So
[1:45:31] therefore we
[1:45:32] re always if
[1:45:32] you
[1:45:33] ll see um regarding when
[1:45:35] our, our our turnover, that
[1:45:35] s
[1:45:37] probably our highest turnover
[1:45:39] within the department. Um, for
[1:45:41] one reason or the other.
[1:45:42] But if we have residents that
[1:45:43] look for some part time work
[1:45:45] for $20 an hour, we can show
[1:45:46] enough. Use your manpower.
[1:45:47] Thank you. Chief. Yes, sir.
[1:45:49] All right. Councilmember
[1:45:50] McMillan, second round.
[1:45:53] Yep. Thank you, MR. Mayor. Um,
[1:45:54] chief, one of the things that
[1:45:56] kept me engaged, uh, over the
[1:45:58] years with council was pushing
[1:46:00] to ensure we had a humane
[1:46:02] response, uh, to to crime, to
[1:46:04] mental health response, uh,
[1:46:06] mental health crisis. Um,
[1:46:09] according to police scorecard
[1:46:13] scorecard.Org. Um, we remain
[1:46:15] and and have been for a while.
[1:46:16] Uh, near the top of the list in
[1:46:18] terms of small cities in North
[1:46:20] Carolina and a statistic called
[1:46:24] a deadly force per arrest. Uh,
[1:46:26] and, you know, there
[1:46:27] s there
[1:46:28] s
[1:46:29] some people who have died over
[1:46:31] the years. Uh, Jada Johnson is
[1:46:33] one of them. Adrian Roberts and
[1:46:35] another one, Joshua Oxendine.
[1:46:37] Uh, and questions about whether
[1:46:38] or not we could have had a
[1:46:41] different response. Uh, when I
[1:46:43] see the numbers of use of force
[1:46:45] going up, uh, from last year,
[1:46:46] this year, of course, I have
[1:46:48] that same concern. I wonder
[1:46:48] that we didn
[1:46:49] t move far enough
[1:46:51] policy wise to address that.
[1:46:52] Um, I
[1:46:53] m wondering what your
[1:46:56] take is on the increase. I
[1:47:00] think it was from 37, 37 to 47,
[1:47:02] 27% increase in use of force.
[1:47:04] What does that mean for us as a
[1:47:05] city? And what are we doing to
[1:47:06] to address that?
[1:47:08] Okay. So I can start with I
[1:47:10] know today we actually had a
[1:47:11] meeting with Chief Wallace and
[1:47:13] Officers, Office of Community
[1:47:15] Safety Director Jones, and
[1:47:16] coming up with plans and
[1:47:18] strategies for the alternative
[1:47:21] response. So as, uh, OKs gets
[1:47:23] their teams together, then
[1:47:23] we
[1:47:25] re going to have a better
[1:47:27] approach in addressing, uh,
[1:47:29] some of these issues with those
[1:47:30] that are in mental health
[1:47:32] crisis. But unfortunately,
[1:47:33] right now, when those calls
[1:47:35] come out, we are the only
[1:47:37] answer until we can get some of
[1:47:40] these other resources in place.
[1:47:42] I would also, uh, state in
[1:47:45] terms of there are multiple,
[1:47:48] multiple incidents that occur
[1:47:50] every day in this city
[1:47:54] regarding mental health crisis.
[1:47:54] But you don
[1:47:56] t hear about them
[1:47:56] and you don
[1:47:57] t hear about them
[1:47:58] because been successful
[1:48:00] in being able to mitigate those
[1:48:02] situations. So the ones that
[1:48:04] you do here are the ones where
[1:48:06] we have the unfortunate, uh,
[1:48:08] situations such as that you
[1:48:09] relayed, but there
[1:48:10] s always
[1:48:11] some other circumstances that
[1:48:13] not everybody is aware of also.
[1:48:16] But I will tell you that we
[1:48:20] have a, a an excellent, um, uh,
[1:48:21] officers, in terms of how we
[1:48:23] deal with these situations.
[1:48:25] Just this past week, we had,
[1:48:28] uh, barricaded subjects. You
[1:48:31] know, no one knows about this,
[1:48:32] but we deal with that, and we
[1:48:35] are are utilizing our, our
[1:48:37] particular, uh, tactics and
[1:48:38] everything to make sure that we
[1:48:41] have a safe outcome for our
[1:48:43] officers as well as those in
[1:48:46] those crisis. So it happens so
[1:48:49] many times, but our public is
[1:48:50] unaware of it, and we deal with
[1:48:54] that on a day, day by day, uh,
[1:48:56] occasion. So, um, I believe,
[1:48:59] you know, we, we do the best we
[1:49:01] can, but, you know, future and
[1:49:03] future wise with when Oaks gets
[1:49:04] on, you know, get their
[1:49:05] staffing. We
[1:49:06] re looking forward
[1:49:07] to being able to address those
[1:49:10] issues in even better ways as
[1:49:11] well.
[1:49:13] Right? Yeah, I appreciate that.
[1:49:15] Looking forward to tracking the
[1:49:16] numbers and seeing those
[1:49:20] numbers come down. Um, um,
[1:49:21] downrange. There
[1:49:21] s something
[1:49:23] called storyboard reporting,
[1:49:25] uh, where are we get in this,
[1:49:27] uh, this habit of holding up
[1:49:29] examples. Good, good news
[1:49:33] stories, anecdotes, and maybe
[1:49:35] emphasize those a little bit
[1:49:37] more than the the the data. Uh,
[1:49:39] would love to continue to hear
[1:49:40] the good news stories about the
[1:49:42] things that your, your force is
[1:49:45] doing on the streets. Um, uh,
[1:49:47] and especially a shift in our
[1:49:50] approach to how we engage with
[1:49:52] citizens. But also, we
[1:49:52] d love
[1:49:55] to see data like use of force,
[1:49:57] uh, that, that matches, you
[1:49:59] know, that shift in terms of
[1:50:00] policy and council member.
[1:50:00] Time
[1:50:02] s up. Second round. All
[1:50:04] right. Uh, Councilmember Jones,
[1:50:04] I think it
[1:50:05] s your first round.
[1:50:07] Is your light on? Are you ready
[1:50:08] to vote?
[1:50:08] You ready to vote?
[1:50:09] Oh, no.
[1:50:10] Just a quick, quick. Yeah, I
[1:50:12] was waiting.
[1:50:12] She
[1:50:13] s got a motion.
[1:50:14] Okay. All right. Very quickly.
[1:50:17] Uh, I just wanted to find out,
[1:50:18] uh, chief, about your the
[1:50:20] mental health support for your
[1:50:22] staff. I mean, I know you all
[1:50:23] do. A you encounter a lot of
[1:50:26] things. Uh, and your officers
[1:50:28] and other staff, they have
[1:50:29] families, too, that they have
[1:50:30] to go on to. So can you just
[1:50:32] speak to how what is that look
[1:50:33] like right now? And I know
[1:50:34] there MAY be some opportunities
[1:50:35] in the future, but what what
[1:50:37] does that look like?
[1:50:38] Right now? We have our
[1:50:40] chaplains program. Uh, whenever
[1:50:44] we have a critical incident, we
[1:50:46] we call our chaplains, and they
[1:50:46] they
[1:50:47] ll come out 2 or 3:00 in
[1:50:50] the morning, um, when we have,
[1:50:51] you know, critical incidents
[1:50:53] that officers are dealing with.
[1:50:56] And so we, we have that
[1:50:57] partnership with them. We also
[1:50:59] have our peer support program
[1:51:02] as well, where we monitor how
[1:51:04] many critical incidents that
[1:51:05] actually happens with our
[1:51:06] officers. And then we
[1:51:07] ll make
[1:51:09] sure and reach out to them to
[1:51:11] get them, uh, any counseling
[1:51:12] services or requests for
[1:51:13] counseling services. But you
[1:51:16] also know we received a grant
[1:51:18] for a licensed cli social
[1:51:19] worker. So we
[1:51:20] re in the process
[1:51:22] of, of getting that that all
[1:51:23] laid out so that we can do
[1:51:25] that. Advertisement and have
[1:51:27] that person on, on, on board
[1:51:28] full time.
[1:51:29] Thank you so much. Thank you,
[1:51:30] MR. Mayor.
[1:51:31] Yes, sir. COUNCILMAN Hondros,
[1:51:32] first round.
[1:51:33] Yes, sir. Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[1:51:35] Thank you. Chief, um, and my
[1:51:36] colleague to my right here
[1:51:37] stole my thunder a little bit.
[1:51:39] But this this question was for,
[1:51:40] uh, Chief Dove and and Chief
[1:51:43] Brian, are we doing all that we
[1:51:45] can to support our women and
[1:51:47] men in uniform? And as my
[1:51:49] colleague mentioned, um, you
[1:51:52] know, we dial 911, you know, in
[1:51:54] the worst moments of our life,
[1:51:56] right? And you guys respond and
[1:51:58] you deal with that. So as a
[1:51:59] council, are we doing
[1:52:01] everything we can to support,
[1:52:04] um, again, the men and women
[1:52:05] and men in the uniform and, and
[1:52:07] our number one operators, I
[1:52:07] mean, they
[1:52:09] re on the call that
[1:52:12] sometimes ends tragically. So
[1:52:15] what can we do to support, um,
[1:52:18] both agencies. And again, the
[1:52:19] nine, 11 operators.
[1:52:20] I would say it
[1:52:21] s one of those
[1:52:22] things where when we we come to
[1:52:25] you and request the support,
[1:52:27] where resources that, you know,
[1:52:29] and I would say, you know, just
[1:52:31] continue and supporting us. Um,
[1:52:33] but it takes more than council
[1:52:35] the community, the community is
[1:52:37] critical in terms of the morale
[1:52:39] of our officers. So, for
[1:52:41] example, uh, this weekend, on
[1:52:43] Saturday, uh, Lewis Chapel
[1:52:45] Missionary Baptist Church, the
[1:52:45] men
[1:52:47] s ministry, they served our
[1:52:48] officers, all our first
[1:52:51] responders, fire fighters. This
[1:52:51] weekend. They served them
[1:52:54] lunch. And, you know, the the
[1:52:56] morale. And just to have, um,
[1:52:58] you know, the community come in
[1:53:00] on their, you know, on their
[1:53:02] own dime and, and on their time
[1:53:04] off to come and serve those
[1:53:05] officers. So those type of
[1:53:06] things are what we need from
[1:53:08] our community. And it
[1:53:08] s very
[1:53:11] much appreciated. So I can
[1:53:11] t,
[1:53:13] you know, just tell you in, in
[1:53:13] what we
[1:53:14] re doing in terms
[1:53:15] continue to having support.
[1:53:17] When you see our officer, we
[1:53:20] get we continuously get, uh,
[1:53:21] atta boys, what we call in the
[1:53:23] military where people call or
[1:53:24] they send. I just received a
[1:53:26] letter today where people in
[1:53:28] the community, they send in and
[1:53:29] let us know, and we make sure
[1:53:31] and relay that message to the
[1:53:34] officers. We had a call from an
[1:53:36] elderly man that actually was
[1:53:37] talking about our cadets that
[1:53:39] stopped and helped him. Uh, two
[1:53:41] weeks ago, he left a voicemail.
[1:53:44] So we were making sure. So when
[1:53:46] we get these calls, all of that
[1:53:48] helps in terms of the morale
[1:53:51] and the the mental health, uh,
[1:53:52] capacity in terms of knowing
[1:53:53] that, hey, you know, that your
[1:53:57] community has your back.
[1:53:58] Real quick, MR. Mayor, since
[1:54:00] you on that note, chief, talk
[1:54:01] about National Night of.
[1:54:02] Because you didn
[1:54:02] t you didn
[1:54:02] t
[1:54:04] speak about National Night Out,
[1:54:05] and that just happened last
[1:54:07] week or week before last.
[1:54:08] So we didn
[1:54:08] t talk about it
[1:54:10] because it happened during this
[1:54:12] quarter. So, um, we were going
[1:54:13] to present that during the
[1:54:13] third quarter.
[1:54:14] I just wanted you to know that
[1:54:16] the community appreciates what
[1:54:16] you
[1:54:16] re doing because they
[1:54:18] showed up in droves at National
[1:54:19] Night Out, even in all that
[1:54:20] rain. Right. So so we do
[1:54:21] appreciate you. Yes, sir.
[1:54:23] Yes, sir. All right.
[1:54:24] Councilmember McNair.
[1:54:28] Oh, thank you, MR. Mayor. Shut
[1:54:30] up. Um. Thank you, chief. Great
[1:54:33] report. Um, and thank you for,
[1:54:36] um, the ride along. Yes, I, I
[1:54:36] d
[1:54:38] like to encourage mylleagues, if they haven
[1:54:39] t
[1:54:40] scheduled a ride along with the
[1:54:44] chief, you must do so. District
[1:54:46] seven. It was an awesome time
[1:54:49] that day. Uh, it was calm. It
[1:54:51] was right. He invited me.
[1:54:52] To slow him down. They
[1:54:52] re
[1:54:52] getting.
[1:54:54] A message inviting me to. To
[1:54:57] wear a bulletproof vest. I
[1:55:00] know. No front. That
[1:55:01] s it. So,
[1:55:03] um, that being said, uh, I
[1:55:06] would like to make a motion to
[1:55:08] receive, um, the Fayetteville
[1:55:11] Police Department 2026 second
[1:55:12] quarter report.
[1:55:14] All right. As much motion by
[1:55:15] Councilmember McNair, seconded
[1:55:18] by Councilmember Ferguson had a
[1:55:19] lot of discussion on this. So,
[1:55:21] Council. Seeing none, I look to
[1:55:25] you for your votes.
[1:55:26] In the meantime, I have an
[1:55:27] alibi. Just like to mention
[1:55:31] that our class 26-1 graduates
[1:55:32] tomorrow. We have 20 officers
[1:55:34] that are graduating. Uh, we
[1:55:36] started out with 22. So that is
[1:55:39] a phenomenal rate in terms of
[1:55:39] what we
[1:55:39] re talking about
[1:55:41] graduating rate. But in
[1:55:42] addition to that, we
[1:55:42] ve had
[1:55:45] almost 50% of that graduating
[1:55:47] class were females. That
[1:55:47] s
[1:55:47] awesome. So we
[1:55:48] re we
[1:55:48] re we
[1:55:48] re.
[1:55:48] We
[1:55:48] re we
[1:55:49] re.
[1:55:49] We
[1:55:49] re bringing them.
[1:55:50] Through.
[1:55:51] Uh, that
[1:55:52] s a great statistic.
[1:55:54] And thank you. Congratulations
[1:55:55] to the new graduates. And
[1:55:56] chief. Thank you. And all of
[1:55:58] the members of our law
[1:55:59] enforcement, as well as our
[1:56:01] fire department. Ocs, for thank
[1:56:02] you for a great job of keeping
[1:56:03] our community safe. So we
[1:56:04] appreciate it.
[1:56:05] Thank you.
[1:56:06] All right, all right. Council
[1:56:08] moving to, uh, the final item
[1:56:12] is 10.01 authorization for fire
[1:56:15] station for site prep. Good
[1:56:16] evening sir.
[1:56:18] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Mayor,
[1:56:20] Pro Tem, Council members and
[1:56:24] staff. Yes, sir. Okay, now I
[1:56:26] have to find it. Sabina, any
[1:56:36] help with this?
[1:56:38] Got it up everywhere.
[1:56:39] Oh.
[1:56:42] Oh.
[1:56:45] Yes, they are
[1:56:48] Thank you. Thank you very much.
[1:56:50] All right. So, council members,
[1:56:51] thank you for having me here
[1:56:52] tonight. My name is Dan
[1:56:53] LaMontagne. I work with Freeze
[1:56:54] and Nichols. I work under
[1:56:55] contract for the city with the
[1:56:56] construction management
[1:56:58] department. Uh, we
[1:56:59] re here
[1:56:59] today. I
[1:57:01] m here tonight to talk
[1:57:02] to you about Fire Station four,
[1:57:04] phase one. And ask for
[1:57:05] authorization to move forward
[1:57:07] with phase one, which is site
[1:57:09] preparation that will consist
[1:57:11] of establishing a new project
[1:57:12] using approximately 1.53
[1:57:15] million of geo bond premiums
[1:57:16] and remaining fire station for
[1:57:18] project funds. We will prepare
[1:57:19] a safe, stable, build ready
[1:57:21] site that consists of site
[1:57:23] clearing, grading, filling,
[1:57:25] stabilizing the site,
[1:57:27] installation and security, get
[1:57:28] getting permits and
[1:57:29] inspections, and then of
[1:57:31] course, testing, documenting
[1:57:32] and closing out the project of
[1:57:35] the site clearing. We also ask
[1:57:36] you to authorize coming group
[1:57:38] to provide project management
[1:57:40] services under their scope. And
[1:57:41] we
[1:57:41] re asking for authorization
[1:57:43] to begin the competitive
[1:57:44] qualifications based
[1:57:45] Construction Manager at risk
[1:57:47] selection process. Uh,
[1:57:49] construction pricing schedule
[1:57:51] and such will come back to
[1:57:53] council for authorization
[1:57:56] later. When that is complete.
[1:57:57] We have a schedule. This is
[1:57:58] just a workingedule. This
[1:58:01] will be refined as we move
[1:58:01] forward and get the
[1:58:03] construction manager at risk.
[1:58:07] On on us. Uh, under contract.
[1:58:07] Um, we
[1:58:08] re here in quarter
[1:58:10] three. Uh, Council, considering
[1:58:12] this phase one authorization,
[1:58:13] we have to complete the ongoing
[1:58:16] salvage this month. Um, it the
[1:58:19] site preparation, procurement.
[1:58:20] Uh, that
[1:58:21] s, uh, the contractors
[1:58:23] for that and also begin that
[1:58:27] same evaluation quarter for we
[1:58:29] plan to begin site preparation
[1:58:31] with, finalize the cmr
[1:58:34] selection and onboarding. Um,
[1:58:35] validate the design and the
[1:58:38] project costs and the schedule.
[1:58:40] Then in first quarter 27,
[1:58:42] complete the site prep and
[1:58:45] pre-construction reviews. Um,
[1:58:46] the council will consider that
[1:58:47] proposed construction price
[1:58:50] schedule and authorize that and
[1:58:51] first quarter and then
[1:58:53] following this, uh, council
[1:58:54] s
[1:58:55] approval, we
[1:58:55] ll begin
[1:58:57] replacement construction. We
[1:58:57] ll
[1:58:58] publish the validated
[1:59:01] milestones with the cmr. Um,
[1:59:03] and when the final completion
[1:59:06] move in date would be. And
[1:59:08] finally, I want to point out
[1:59:09] that the city has put together
[1:59:12] a project website for this
[1:59:13] project. We know there
[1:59:13] s
[1:59:15] considerable community interest
[1:59:17] in it. So all information to be
[1:59:19] able to go to this site and
[1:59:20] find out everything that
[1:59:20] s
[1:59:23] happening on the project, and a
[1:59:25] very short presentation for you
[1:59:25] tonight. So that
[1:59:26] s the end of
[1:59:26] that.
[1:59:29] Not mad with that. All right.
[1:59:33] Council any um, uh, comments or
[1:59:36] questions. I think we covered a
[1:59:38] little bit upstairs, but but
[1:59:40] basically, um, you MAY have
[1:59:44] covered it. Um, tonight, uh,
[1:59:46] this is the approval of this,
[1:59:48] uh, MR. Yates, was there a
[1:59:49] component that you needed to
[1:59:53] explain or, um, no. Okay.
[1:59:55] Like MISS Murray, to address
[1:59:56] some of the budget.
[1:59:57] MR. Yates had been the one we
[1:59:58] were working on. How you doing,
[1:59:58] MISS Murray?
[1:59:58] I
[1:59:59] m doing.
[2:00:01] Fine.
[2:00:03] Are there any questions for me?
[2:00:04] Oh, no. I just wanted to make
[2:00:05] sure it wasn
[2:00:06] t. So. Basically,
[2:00:08] uh, with this. This is, uh,
[2:00:10] this is kind of a a new phase
[2:00:12] as well. Site prep it, and and,
[2:00:12] uh, we
[2:00:13] ll move here. I think
[2:00:15] you talked to us about, uh,
[2:00:16] that the expenses related to
[2:00:17] this will be tracked
[2:00:20] separately. And, uh, the, the
[2:00:21] other or the older expenses,
[2:00:23] uh, that that particular
[2:00:25] bucket, uh, for lack of a
[2:00:26] better word, will be reconciled
[2:00:28] and closed out. So this this
[2:00:29] phase will have it separate
[2:00:31] line of expenses and and costs.
[2:00:32] Correct?
[2:00:32] That
[2:00:33] s correct. Okay. We
[2:00:33] re
[2:00:35] going to close the old project
[2:00:37] and do a new project. And
[2:00:37] that
[2:00:38] s part of the action
[2:00:38] tonight.
[2:00:40] Gotcha. All right. Thank you
[2:00:40] ma
[2:00:41] am. All right. Council
[2:00:43] member Hondros.
[2:00:44] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Thank you
[2:00:48] Dan. And, uh, cfo. I appreciate
[2:00:49] you all coming up. So the
[2:00:51] question I asked of acm
[2:00:56] upstairs was the cpo 20, 1934,
[2:00:58] in our agenda packet, as well
[2:01:01] as cpo 2027 one, um, which is,
[2:01:04] as you stated, closing out. Um,
[2:01:06] cfo Murray, the the old project
[2:01:07] and starting this new one. But
[2:01:08] can you speak a little bit to
[2:01:10] the funding of those numbers?
[2:01:11] Uh, how much have we spent to
[2:01:14] date on that project, the one
[2:01:14] we
[2:01:15] re closing out? How much are
[2:01:17] we transferring over? And, um,
[2:01:19] those thi please?
[2:01:24] Yes. Um, sorry. So, um, the
[2:01:27] original project, when it was
[2:01:28] brought before council, was for
[2:01:32] a total of 11.4 million. Um,
[2:01:35] almost 11.5 of that. We had a
[2:01:38] general fund transfer of 1.2
[2:01:41] ish. Um, and we did a financing
[2:01:44] for 10.3. So of that funding,
[2:01:45] we
[2:01:49] ve spent a little over $7.6
[2:01:51] million. So that
[2:01:51] s what we
[2:01:51] re
[2:01:53] going to be closing out in this
[2:01:55] particular project. And we
[2:01:55] re
[2:01:56] going to transfer the remaining
[2:01:59] funds, which is $3.8 million,
[2:02:01] into a new capital project. Um,
[2:02:03] along with some bond premium
[2:02:05] that we received from the
[2:02:07] issuance of the first tranche
[2:02:11] of the $97 million referendum.
[2:02:12] Um, if you remember, earlier
[2:02:14] this year, we issued $40
[2:02:15] million, and we
[2:02:15] re going to
[2:02:17] take some of that premium. And,
[2:02:19] um, assign it to this
[2:02:22] particular project in order for
[2:02:23] us to move forward.
[2:02:24] In. The premium came from rate
[2:02:26] reductions, and our stellar
[2:02:27] credit. Is that right?
[2:02:30] The premium did not come from
[2:02:32] rate reductions. Okay. Um, the
[2:02:34] bond premium, um, essentially,
[2:02:37] um, when the city, um, decides
[2:02:39] to issue bonds and we issue
[2:02:41] bonds at a premium, that is
[2:02:42] because the rate on our bonds
[2:02:45] is higher than what the market
[2:02:47] is currently. So they give us
[2:02:49] additional money or they pay
[2:02:50] additional money on the face
[2:02:52] value of the bonds. Essentially
[2:02:52] what we
[2:02:54] re doing is we
[2:02:54] re
[2:02:55] getting upfront money, but
[2:02:56] we
[2:02:57] ll pay higher interest rates
[2:02:59] over the life of the bonds.
[2:03:02] Very good. Um, and I also was
[2:03:04] thankful that, um, we had the,
[2:03:06] uh, finally got the website
[2:03:08] page where residents can track
[2:03:10] the progress on the project.
[2:03:13] Will the, um, budget
[2:03:14] information be on that page or
[2:03:15] not?
[2:03:17] I have not looked at the link
[2:03:19] for that page, so I will have
[2:03:24] to defer to Dan.
[2:03:25] Very good. Thank you so much.
[2:03:28] Thank you..
[2:03:30] All right, Council, I
[2:03:30] ll look
[2:03:40] to you for action on this.
[2:03:41] Mayor Pro Tem.
[2:03:42] I recommend that we approve
[2:03:43] phase one. MR. Mayor.
[2:03:45] All right. Motion by Mayor Pro
[2:03:47] Tem to approve phase one.
[2:03:49] Seconded by Davis. Discussion
[2:03:51] on the motion. All right,
[2:03:52] counselor, look to you for your
[2:04:00] votes.
[2:04:03] Thank you. Council.
[2:04:06] All right. All right. Thank