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>> I ould like to call our

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OCTOBER 27th fayetteville city

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council meeting to order.

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Welcome.

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We see a lot of new faces.

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Good to see you.

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Good to see you.

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Also those that join us remotely

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we thank you.

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At this time we will begin with

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the invocation and ask debra

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kinser from the pentecostal

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fellowship church.

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>> good evening.

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>> if you can stand for the

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prayer immediately if we can

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repeat the pledge of allegiance?

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>> if you can bow please.

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Heavenly father we come before

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you tonight in the mighty name

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of jesus.

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We thank you for your hand upon

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this great city of fayetteville,

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north carolina.

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A city of purpose, praise and

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destiny.

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Father we invite your holy

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spirit to come into this council

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chamber tonight.

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Matthew 28 states for where two

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or more are gathered together in

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my name I am in their midst.

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We declare and decree that your

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wisdom low through every

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COUNCILMAN For every decision

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and every word spoken let the

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spirit of unity and the

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righteousness reign over this

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meeting.

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Heavenly father, we declare the

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fayetteville belongs to you.

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We speak life over the city of

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fayetteville.

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We decree blessings over the

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leaders, our neighborhoods, our

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schools and the families.

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Let this be the city where your

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love flows through and is shown

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through our services where we

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hope it is restored and we're

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just

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justjustice rolls down lie

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water.

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We fill this chamber with your

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presence.

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Bring clarity and gratitude to

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every heart y guiding it with

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your holy spirit.

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ordinance of divine direction

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for the blessed and faithful

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work that is bestowed upon the

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city of fayetteville.

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City council and cumberland

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county sheriff's department and

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departments of social services,

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board of education and every

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county public service department

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you have touched through these

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leaders.

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As we close, heavenly father, we

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thank you again and it is done

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as we decree in the mighty name

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of jesus, the name of the

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father, son and holy spirit amen

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and amen and amen.

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of the united states of america,

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and to the republic, for which

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it stands, one nation, under

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GOD, indivisible, with liberty

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and justice for all. Thank you

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pastor if you want to tell us

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about yourself or your ministry

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that you are affiliated with?

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>> I'm debra kinser an assistant

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for first pentecostal fellowship

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and world wide ministries.

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The presiding pastors over it is

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apostle frederick nuoso and fred

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nuoso

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nuoso.

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mcarthur street.

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We are building it back because

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it felt apart for a minute there

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due to the 2020 recession thing

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that we had going on for covid

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you know so we're trying to

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build that back up.

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We have some ministries called

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global peace missions helping

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people to build their lives

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again around the world.

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evangelist linda branch cora's

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closet.

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She's part of the ministry and

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is ne of our evangelists and we

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have pastor erry who is doing a

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lot of different work with the

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motorcycle clubs.

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I forget what he called the

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ministry but he's doing those

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works and head kingdom sos.

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Let's give pastor kins see

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kinsey a round of applause.

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Keep up the good work nd

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congratulations on rebuilding

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and we know you will continue to

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do great things.

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Thank you for coming to join us

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and pray for us tonight.

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and I'll turn that over to

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council member thompson and I

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think MR. Brook redding took

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care of that from the parks and

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rec taff perspective.

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>> thank you MR. Mayor.

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It was our initiative where we

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did the youth curfew ordinance

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to incorporate a junior mayor

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for the city of fayetteville.

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would be pertinent for us to

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communicate with our youth to

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find out what their needs and

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desires are and that

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presentation will be done today

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on who our taff has appointed.

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MR. Brook will come and give us

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a small briefing and introduce

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our new junior mayor.

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>> good evening mayor and

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Sorry to walk in there.

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senior assistant to the city

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manager's office so I don't see

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them here but back in MAY we

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were given instruction to

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establish a junior mayor program

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with the F.Y. Y c and that was

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helped with mike gibson and his

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team and they have redone, go

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ahead and come up, and

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implemented this so that the

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chair formerly is now the junior

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mayor.

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>> hi everyone.

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Yeah so good evening mayor and

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First I want to thank GOD for

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this opportunity for guiding me

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on this journey.

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I'm honored to be standing here

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today as the newly inducted

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junior mayor of fayetteville.

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To y family and friends and

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mentor has the thank you for

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supporting me and pushing me to

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grow as a leader.

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I want to recognize my family

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here tonight.

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It's crowded but I saw my family

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right there.

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>> stand up family, stand up

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family.

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>> that's my fmily.

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It's much igger but that's my

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family.

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Your love and encouragement

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means the world to me.

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To my youth council family thank

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you for being part of my

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leadership journey.

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You inspire me with your passion

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and dedication and creativity.

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I'd like to recognize my

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executive board and other

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members of the council.

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This first three rows.

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If you guys can stand up?

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>> we just had our second

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meeting of the year last monday

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and they are doing phenomenal

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already.

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The next time I report I will

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share the projects they are

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As junior mayor I'm excited to

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continue the work for

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fayetteville to listen, serve

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and make sure your voices are

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heard.

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Thank you all again for trusting

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me with this role and I'm

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grateful and otivated and ready

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to continue to work for

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Well thank yu.

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We are glad to welcome you MADAM

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We look forward to great things.

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I didn't mean to steal your

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the stage and this was their

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feedback on what our youth are

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looking for in the city of

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fayetteville to make us the

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all-american can do city that we

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are so give it up for these

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youth doing great things for

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Come on back up here MADAM

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Again we thank you so much and

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look forward to the great things

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that you all will do.

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Continue doing in our community,

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our future is bright.

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I'm encouraged.

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When I need to call it a sick

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I'll call you so be around to

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take it on.

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Thank you for joining our

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family.

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It is a product of your work and

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investment so thank you for what

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you have contributed to our

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city, as well.

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Council with that we'll move

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from there to the announcement

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section.

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I didn't see anything.

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Council member benavente?

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>> thank you.

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I wanted to let everyone know

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this coming saturday NOVEMBER

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first of 2025 at 10:00 A.M. In

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downtown fayetteville the

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veteran's council invites the

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community to come together in

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celebration of our nation's

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heroes at the veteran's day

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parade this saturday FEBRUARY

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first at downtown fayetteville

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and this year's theme is

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highlighting a military

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community.

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>> thank you sir.

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Council with that we'll move to,

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we have our assistant city

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manager MS. Can kelly

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strickland.

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I'm honored to fill in for DR.

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Hewitt tonight and have one item

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for the manager's report and I'd

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like to invite to the podium

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please, MR. Willie henry, john

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wesley.

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MR. Adam faulkner and kenneth

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minore.

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>> ya'll in trouble fellas.

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Come bearing gifts, huh?

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>> absolutely they do.

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The city of fayetteville has

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earned double recognition from

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the national association of

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government web professionals.

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Our team was awarded with both

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the pinnacle award and the

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members choice award in the city

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county medium group category

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comprised of to 221 thousand.

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They impressed judges with

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excellence in content,

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organization, design,

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performance and accessibility

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while also resonating with the n

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agw members who selected it as

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their top choice.

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This dual honor is the effort to

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make a digital community and

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setting a high standard for

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government design and this as a

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national award.

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>> congratulations.

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>> thank you.

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I think it's important to point

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it is is not just the team here.

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There is a large team behind

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I.T. And a large team behind

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them and then we have managers

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in all the departments and it

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was all the work coming together

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to make this award possible.

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>> we hank ou for the work you

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do for the city.

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What you do is so valuable

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behind the scenes and out front.

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The city could not run without

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technology so thank you for

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that.

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Congratulations.

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[Applause]

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>> quick photo.

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>> congratulations.

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Now before we take this picture

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the gentlemen that's in mid

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financial you can slide to your

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left or right.

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That's good.

345
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Alright.

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Congratulations guys.

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Alright.

348
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>> that's all I have this

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evening.

350
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>> thank you s. Strickland.

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we appreciate it.

352
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6.0 approval of the agenda.

353
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We'll look for motion to approve

354
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and is banks-mclaughlin on?

355
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Good evening.

356
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>> yes, good evening.

357
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>> motion by council member

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haire?

359
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I'm sorry.

360
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>> I'd like to move 9.0 agenda

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items to be placed before 8.0

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agenda items.

363
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>> so 9 point section the public

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hearing items will come

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following consent in your

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motion?

367
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>> yes, sir.

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>> motion to approve with the

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changes seconded by michael

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harris any discussion?

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Council look for your votes.

372
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>> greene.

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>> who else are we missing?

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Motion carries.

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Moving to the tems that were

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we'll look for on consent.

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Motion for consent?

378
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Council member thompson?

379
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>> move that we prove the

380
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consent agenda MR. Mayor?

381
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>> move to approve and seconded

382
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by haire.

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Looks like.

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Council member benavente?

385
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>> this MAY be for the city

386
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attorney or the city manager.

387
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There was a vote taken upstairs

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to move the work session that

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was cheduled for NOVEMBER 3rd

390
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to NOVEMBER 10.

391
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Is that considered to be part of

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this consent agenda because I

393
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want to make sure I don't give

394
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approval for what I felt like

395
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was an in proper motion?

396
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>> no sir.

397
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>> thank you.

398
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>> council, I look for your

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votes.

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Council member banks-mclaughlin?

401
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>> greene.

402
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>> motion carries.

403
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Council moving to the public

404
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hearing items.

405
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It's time for the public hearing

406
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and we're preparing to hold the

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public hearing with the city

408
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council formerly seeks your

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input.

410
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Individuals must've signed up

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with city clerk by name and

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address before the start of the

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meeting tonight.

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We'll begin with a staff

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presentation and then move into

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the formal hearing.

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15 minutes will be allowed for

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those in favor and apposed of

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the item.

420
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Individual seakers are limited

421
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to three minutes each unless by

422
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previous arrangement a single

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spokesman has been designated

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and in which case they can use

425
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the entire 15 minutes.

426
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When the clerk calls your name

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come to the podium and state

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your name and address for the

429
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record and address the counsel.

430
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When the light changes to amber

431
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you have 30 seconds remaining

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and then the light will turn

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red.

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I'll turn it to you MR. Harmon.

435
00:18:07,976 --> 00:18:09,778
Council member davis?

436
00:18:09,778 --> 00:18:12,778
>> per the applicant they were

437
00:18:13,248 --> 00:18:16,151
asking for this to be tabled so

438
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I will move that we table this.

439
00:18:17,886 --> 00:18:19,886
>> which item?

440
00:18:23,825 --> 00:18:25,825
>> 9.01 for the rezoning.

441
00:18:26,295 --> 00:18:29,164
>> did you have any more clarity

442
00:18:29,164 --> 00:18:29,464
on that MR. Harmon what's behind

443
00:18:29,464 --> 00:18:31,464
this?

444
00:18:32,234 --> 00:18:35,103
>> according to the e-mail that

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the clerk's office got the owner

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of this property is out of the

447
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country due to an emergency

448
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situation.

449
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>> okay.

450
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This is a motion to table is

451
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there a date?

452
00:18:50,619 --> 00:18:52,821
>> I move we table it to JANUARY

453
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26th.

454
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2026.

455
00:18:55,323 --> 00:18:57,323
>> so JANUARY?

456
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>> JANUARY 26th, 2026.

457
00:19:00,496 --> 00:19:02,496
>> okay.

458
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Is there a second to that?

459
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,934
Seconded by council member

460
00:19:05,934 --> 00:19:07,436
hondros.

461
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Any discussion?

462
00:19:08,304 --> 00:19:10,304
Council member benavente?

463
00:19:10,405 --> 00:19:12,307
>> this is maybe still the

464
00:19:12,307 --> 00:19:14,443
question phase, MR. Mayor but I

465
00:19:14,443 --> 00:19:17,380
don't know if there's clarity on

466
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how many times a request has

467
00:19:19,582 --> 00:19:21,516
been made by the applicant to

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00:19:21,516 --> 00:19:21,917
move the gold post on this

469
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discussion.

470
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This is not the first time is

471
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it?

472
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,320
>> it's not.

473
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So this s an appeal.

474
00:19:30,993 --> 00:19:33,595
It was appealed to your meeting

475
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in AUGUST and in AUGUST they

476
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asked his be tabled until this

477
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meeting.

478
00:19:37,699 --> 00:19:39,268
>> why?

479
00:19:39,268 --> 00:19:39,568
Do you remember the reason for

480
00:19:39,568 --> 00:19:41,568
that?

481
00:19:42,204 --> 00:19:43,506
>> at that point they had the

482
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representative that was coming

483
00:19:47,843 --> 00:19:48,210
that night had a medical

484
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condition.

485
00:19:51,914 --> 00:19:53,816
>> so medical emergencies every

486
00:19:53,816 --> 00:19:54,183
time?

487
00:19:54,183 --> 00:19:56,510
Allegedly?

488
00:19:56,510 --> 00:19:59,510
>> that's what we've been told.

489
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>> you have any record of how

490
00:20:00,923 --> 00:20:03,920
many people came to speak at the

491
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previous occasions?

492
00:20:05,861 --> 00:20:08,261
>> I believe, MS. Clerk?

493
00:20:09,699 --> 00:20:10,967
>> yes, sir. At the AUGUST 25th

494
00:20:10,967 --> 00:20:13,769
meeting there were six speakers

495
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in opposition and one speaker in

496
00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:18,641
favor and we have the, well we

497
00:20:18,641 --> 00:20:20,900
have six speakers in opposition

498
00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:22,440
tonight and two in favor.

499
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,440
>> if there's no other questions

500
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I reserve the opportunity to

501
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comment.

502
00:20:27,583 --> 00:20:28,651
>> this is the question phase so

503
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motion and second.

504
00:20:30,820 --> 00:20:32,121
>> if there's no other questions

505
00:20:32,121 --> 00:20:34,121
for anyone else?

506
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>> we're going to take the vote.

507
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>> I'll take this opportunity to

508
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say we have citizens that have

509
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been diligent organizing around

510
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this issue and it's no small

511
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feat for folks to come into city

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hall and now this is the second

513
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time they've organized and come

514
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here and it seems like if the

515
00:21:00,717 --> 00:21:02,719
shoe was not on the other foot,

516
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so at a certain point a judge

517
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will tell the attorneys you have

518
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had enough continuances so this

519
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time try your matter and all of

520
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us here are serving as decision

521
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makers and today would be the

522
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day to say you have had enough

523
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of continuance and everyone is

524
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here to speak so I vote against

525
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this.

526
00:21:31,781 --> 00:21:33,781
>> thank you COUNCILMAN.

527
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,520
We'll look to you on the davis,

528
00:21:45,195 --> 00:21:45,996
hondros motion to continue to 1

529
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1/26/26.

530
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I look for your vote.

531
00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:52,570
Council member banks-mclaughlin?

532
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>> red.

533
00:21:54,671 --> 00:21:56,671
>> MADAM?

534
00:21:59,176 --> 00:22:00,778
That carries so those voting

535
00:22:00,778 --> 00:22:01,812
against council member benavente

536
00:22:01,812 --> 00:22:03,480
and council member

537
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:03,914
banks-mclaughlin, the rest are

538
00:22:03,914 --> 00:22:05,914
voting for.

539
00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:12,685
MR. Harmon or MADAM Attorney, as

540
00:22:13,557 --> 00:22:16,557
mentioned like a court she's

541
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760
been three continuances.

542
00:22:18,929 --> 00:22:19,563
So we need to hear it or dispose

543
00:22:19,563 --> 00:22:21,231
of it?

544
00:22:21,231 --> 00:22:22,466
>> member of the body could

545
00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:25,466
include that in a motion.

546
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:25,936
>> I think we just voted on that

547
00:22:25,936 --> 00:22:27,936
one.

548
00:22:28,372 --> 00:22:30,375
>> can take another motion from

549
00:22:30,375 --> 00:22:32,276
the floor.

550
00:22:32,276 --> 00:22:33,677
>> well complicated but I think

551
00:22:33,677 --> 00:22:36,677
that's something that needs to

552
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:39,216
be communicated in respect of

553
00:22:39,216 --> 00:22:40,851
time.

554
00:22:40,851 --> 00:22:43,320
At some point of course do say

555
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,389
after two or three times.

556
00:22:45,389 --> 00:22:47,524
>> I'm willing to make the

557
00:22:47,524 --> 00:22:48,592
motion but I do have a question

558
00:22:48,592 --> 00:22:50,494
before the motion.

559
00:22:50,494 --> 00:22:51,862
So when did the e-mail come in

560
00:22:51,862 --> 00:22:56,620
that they were not going to be

561
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,769
able to be here?

562
00:22:58,769 --> 00:23:00,971
>> it was originally, let me

563
00:23:00,971 --> 00:23:02,540
pull that up to make sure I have

564
00:23:02,540 --> 00:23:03,941
it correct but the official

565
00:23:03,941 --> 00:23:06,343
request to table was friday

566
00:23:06,343 --> 00:23:08,450
OCTOBER 10th and I respond on

567
00:23:08,450 --> 00:23:10,450
monday OCTOBER 13th.

568
00:23:10,247 --> 00:23:13,317
>> so my next question is, when

569
00:23:13,317 --> 00:23:16,917
we have six people here that

570
00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:18,822
signed up, did we call them?

571
00:23:18,822 --> 00:23:20,391
>> actually I called the ones

572
00:23:20,391 --> 00:23:22,259
that we had phone numbers for.

573
00:23:22,259 --> 00:23:23,527
We did not have phone numbers

574
00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:26,564
for everyone of them but I did

575
00:23:26,564 --> 00:23:30,164
call the ones we had numbers

576
00:23:34,739 --> 00:23:36,739
for.

577
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,744
I'm going back to what was said.

578
00:23:39,744 --> 00:23:43,344
This is the second night they

579
00:23:45,149 --> 00:23:45,249
have come so we have ample time

580
00:23:45,249 --> 00:23:47,249
-

581
00:23:47,885 --> 00:23:51,485
but what it was motion again?

582
00:23:51,989 --> 00:23:54,625
>> just to do a new motion just

583
00:23:54,625 --> 00:23:56,694
to impress if the council passes

584
00:23:56,694 --> 00:23:59,694
this to imply or communicate

585
00:24:00,598 --> 00:24:00,998
that this was the last

586
00:24:00,998 --> 00:24:02,166
continuance.

587
00:24:02,166 --> 00:24:05,166
>> that third time is it?

588
00:24:05,469 --> 00:24:06,938
>> they can withdrawal or start

589
00:24:06,938 --> 00:24:07,739
over.

590
00:24:07,739 --> 00:24:09,507
Over.

591
00:24:09,507 --> 00:24:11,742
>> so I make a motion if the

592
00:24:11,742 --> 00:24:15,342
applicant does not show up at

593
00:24:15,479 --> 00:24:17,448
the next one on JANUARY 26th, I

594
00:24:17,448 --> 00:24:19,250
think it was, that they will

595
00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:21,650
need to withdrawal the

596
00:24:23,655 --> 00:24:26,655
application and start all over.

597
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,261
>> you had a question?

598
00:24:30,261 --> 00:24:32,261
Council member hondros?

599
00:24:32,697 --> 00:24:35,660
Motion by mayor pro-tem and

600
00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:36,330
second by haire.

601
00:24:36,330 --> 00:24:37,969
question council member hondros?

602
00:24:37,969 --> 00:24:40,171
>> I don't know if I can support

603
00:24:40,171 --> 00:24:41,706
this if this is not part of our

604
00:24:41,706 --> 00:24:45,306
policy and we've not done this

605
00:24:45,543 --> 00:24:46,878
before, I think MR. Mayor you

606
00:24:46,878 --> 00:24:48,580
mentioned communicating

607
00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:50,782
council's desire of that.

608
00:24:50,782 --> 00:24:52,250
I just don't want them treated

609
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:54,852
any different than anybody else.

610
00:24:54,852 --> 00:24:56,488
This is something we can look at

611
00:24:56,488 --> 00:24:58,256
policy committee or any other

612
00:24:58,256 --> 00:25:01,126
committee of putting in our

613
00:25:01,126 --> 00:25:03,526
policies or creative ordinances

614
00:25:04,129 --> 00:25:05,797
but if there's no limit to this

615
00:25:05,797 --> 00:25:07,632
codified in our code of

616
00:25:07,632 --> 00:25:10,632
ordinances or policies I don't

617
00:25:10,635 --> 00:25:13,204
know why we treat this applicant

618
00:25:13,204 --> 00:25:14,672
different than any other.

619
00:25:14,672 --> 00:25:18,272
>> I can retract that and say

620
00:25:18,476 --> 00:25:19,644
take it back to the policy

621
00:25:19,644 --> 00:25:22,800
committee, but I also think that

622
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,549
we need to in the policy

623
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:26,118
committee talking about getting

624
00:25:26,118 --> 00:25:28,118
phone numbers.

625
00:25:28,353 --> 00:25:31,353
>> well let me say this.

626
00:25:31,457 --> 00:25:33,992
My purpose was to be able to

627
00:25:33,992 --> 00:25:35,227
communicate some reasonable

628
00:25:35,227 --> 00:25:37,896
expectations to the applicant to

629
00:25:37,896 --> 00:25:40,650
say if this is something that's

630
00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:41,633
held our docket twice so I don't

631
00:25:41,633 --> 00:25:44,350
know it needs to be a policy

632
00:25:44,350 --> 00:25:47,206
change for the board to wales

633
00:25:47,206 --> 00:25:48,406
have discretion as to when to

634
00:25:48,406 --> 00:25:50,806
apply guidance for people

635
00:25:51,677 --> 00:25:53,545
because they are holding space,

636
00:25:53,545 --> 00:25:55,945
I understand emergencies happen

637
00:25:56,148 --> 00:25:57,480
but a court shall hear them as

638
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,151
council member benavente said,

639
00:25:59,151 --> 00:25:59,952
this will be the next time or

640
00:25:59,952 --> 00:26:01,952
the last time.

641
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,356
If that needs to be wrapped up

642
00:26:04,356 --> 00:26:06,359
in a motion, but I think this is

643
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,940
really to see if the board had

644
00:26:09,940 --> 00:26:10,729
the will to communicate that.

645
00:26:10,729 --> 00:26:12,231
It doesn't necessary have to be

646
00:26:12,231 --> 00:26:13,965
an ordinance or resolution but

647
00:26:13,965 --> 00:26:16,435
it will just be something that

648
00:26:16,435 --> 00:26:19,839
can be communicated on behalf of

649
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:22,907
the council when they notify the

650
00:26:22,907 --> 00:26:24,677
applicant of his approved

651
00:26:24,677 --> 00:26:25,811
continuance so are you still

652
00:26:25,811 --> 00:26:27,811
okay with that?

653
00:26:29,515 --> 00:26:29,882
>> I'd need to hear the motion

654
00:26:29,882 --> 00:26:30,749
restated.

655
00:26:30,749 --> 00:26:31,550
>> a alright.

656
00:26:31,550 --> 00:26:33,550
N alright.

657
00:26:35,454 --> 00:26:39,654
>> so if I get it right, the

658
00:26:41,393 --> 00:26:44,597
motion is to make sure that the

659
00:26:44,597 --> 00:26:48,797
applicant is aware that if he or

660
00:26:48,934 --> 00:26:51,570
she does not show up on JANUARY

661
00:26:51,570 --> 00:26:53,973
26th, 2023 that they will have

662
00:26:53,973 --> 00:26:55,808
to start the pplication

663
00:26:55,808 --> 00:26:56,209
process.

664
00:26:56,209 --> 00:26:57,610
2026.

665
00:26:57,610 --> 00:26:59,610
I'm so sorry.

666
00:27:01,470 --> 00:27:03,447
JANUARY 26th, 2026 that they

667
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:04,450
will have o start the process

668
00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:06,351
over.

669
00:27:06,351 --> 00:27:08,454
>> and if I MAY, as well MR.

670
00:27:08,454 --> 00:27:10,956
Mayor, I think we can say that

671
00:27:10,956 --> 00:27:12,191
they will not get another

672
00:27:12,191 --> 00:27:13,859
continuance but I don't think we

673
00:27:13,859 --> 00:27:16,859
can force them o withdrawal.

674
00:27:17,130 --> 00:27:19,130
>> that's better.

675
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,599
We'll not give another

676
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:22,599
continuance.

677
00:27:23,268 --> 00:27:25,268
>> alright.

678
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,472
COUNCILMAN Haire and thompson?

679
00:27:31,210 --> 00:27:34,810
>> now we don't have policy for

680
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:40,500
on-going items to be continued

681
00:27:42,455 --> 00:27:45,591
then are you aying that it's

682
00:27:45,591 --> 00:27:47,660
out of order or not moved to go

683
00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:49,962
forward to the policy committee

684
00:27:49,962 --> 00:27:51,564
at least for some discussions of

685
00:27:51,564 --> 00:27:54,333
this because this is something

686
00:27:54,333 --> 00:27:56,268
that could continue to come

687
00:27:56,268 --> 00:27:58,268
forward again.

688
00:27:58,438 --> 00:28:00,940
>> so the only thing I was

689
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:03,643
saying is that was hondros

690
00:28:03,643 --> 00:28:05,745
position but I'm saying the body

691
00:28:05,745 --> 00:28:07,380
or board needs discretion

692
00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:07,747
because each situation is

693
00:28:07,747 --> 00:28:09,747
different.

694
00:28:09,748 --> 00:28:11,851
You wouldn't want to make a firm

695
00:28:11,851 --> 00:28:14,754
policy that you would have to

696
00:28:14,754 --> 00:28:16,623
make an exception for.

697
00:28:16,623 --> 00:28:18,191
Saying you get only three and

698
00:28:18,191 --> 00:28:20,260
then some situation happens but

699
00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:21,895
I was trying to get enough

700
00:28:21,895 --> 00:28:24,598
consensus it can be communicated

701
00:28:24,598 --> 00:28:27,400
when they give him the new date

702
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,170
to say council is ready to hear

703
00:28:30,170 --> 00:28:32,570
this on JANUARY 26th.

704
00:28:33,674 --> 00:28:34,408
Any other comments?

705
00:28:34,408 --> 00:28:36,408
Council member thompson?

706
00:28:37,644 --> 00:28:39,546
>> thank you MR. Mayor.

707
00:28:39,546 --> 00:28:41,148
I'm sitting here thinking.

708
00:28:41,148 --> 00:28:42,849
There is no policy.

709
00:28:42,849 --> 00:28:45,418
Has this ever happened before?

710
00:28:45,418 --> 00:28:48,421
>> we've had it come up before

711
00:28:48,421 --> 00:28:48,788
where we've had multiple

712
00:28:48,788 --> 00:28:50,788
requests.

713
00:28:51,191 --> 00:28:51,691
>> what was done in those

714
00:28:51,691 --> 00:28:53,660
instances?

715
00:28:53,660 --> 00:28:55,895
How many times you know an item

716
00:28:55,895 --> 00:28:57,895
was tken?

717
00:28:58,365 --> 00:29:00,601
>> probably around three is as

718
00:29:00,601 --> 00:29:02,869
many as I can think of but there

719
00:29:02,869 --> 00:29:04,837
could be some point in the past

720
00:29:04,837 --> 00:29:07,574
where we've done more than that.

721
00:29:07,574 --> 00:29:10,377
>> was there any suggestion of

722
00:29:10,377 --> 00:29:13,113
creating policy or ordinance to

723
00:29:13,113 --> 00:29:13,847
preclude them from having three

724
00:29:13,847 --> 00:29:15,148
or more.

725
00:29:15,148 --> 00:29:17,548
>> not that I recall.

726
00:29:17,717 --> 00:29:18,785
>> if I MAY?

727
00:29:18,785 --> 00:29:20,785
>> yes, ma'am?

728
00:29:20,787 --> 00:29:22,656
>> so I think we're talking

729
00:29:22,656 --> 00:29:25,225
about hat's going on here and I

730
00:29:25,225 --> 00:29:29,425
stated that is that we have had

731
00:29:30,363 --> 00:29:32,198
people come out to speak twice

732
00:29:32,198 --> 00:29:35,198
and they've waited here, they've

733
00:29:35,568 --> 00:29:36,470
come up and we've said we're

734
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:37,537
continuing it chlt

735
00:29:37,537 --> 00:29:39,537
.

736
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:41,508
I think if we knew on OCTOBER

737
00:29:41,508 --> 00:29:43,210
12th if we could have gotten in

738
00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:45,450
touch with them and said, this

739
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:46,213
is going to be continued, then

740
00:29:46,213 --> 00:29:47,748
that would have been a different

741
00:29:47,748 --> 00:29:50,117
story so that's when I said I

742
00:29:50,117 --> 00:29:51,852
can bring it back to ask that

743
00:29:51,852 --> 00:29:55,522
but if I need to withdrawal the

744
00:29:55,522 --> 00:29:58,522
motion, I can do that.

745
00:29:59,192 --> 00:30:00,394
>> hold on for clarification.

746
00:30:00,394 --> 00:30:02,394
Council member thompson?

747
00:30:02,696 --> 00:30:04,732
>> thank you MR. Mayor and mayor

748
00:30:04,732 --> 00:30:06,267
pro tem I like that idea because

749
00:30:06,267 --> 00:30:06,600
that can be brought back to

750
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,600
policy.

751
00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:12,139
that we get the phone numbers so

752
00:30:12,139 --> 00:30:13,807
we have enough time to notify

753
00:30:13,807 --> 00:30:14,207
them so they don't have to show

754
00:30:14,207 --> 00:30:14,308
up.

755
00:30:14,308 --> 00:30:16,308
-

756
00:30:16,344 --> 00:30:17,778
that we can bring back to

757
00:30:17,778 --> 00:30:19,778
policy, MR. Mayor.

758
00:30:20,213 --> 00:30:22,160
>> my nly concern is they don't

759
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,917
know it's going to be tabled

760
00:30:23,917 --> 00:30:25,452
until council comes together and

761
00:30:25,452 --> 00:30:27,755
we don't come together until

762
00:30:27,755 --> 00:30:29,123
meeting so I don't think that

763
00:30:29,123 --> 00:30:30,925
will work.

764
00:30:30,925 --> 00:30:33,325
It's just a request.

765
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,862
>> council MAY or MAY not grant

766
00:30:34,862 --> 00:30:35,195
it at the time.

767
00:30:35,195 --> 00:30:36,897
Council?

768
00:30:36,897 --> 00:30:37,965
Let me bring it back to this

769
00:30:37,965 --> 00:30:39,965
particular case, right?

770
00:30:40,167 --> 00:30:42,103
We have continued this to

771
00:30:42,103 --> 00:30:44,103
JANUARY 26th of 26.

772
00:30:44,338 --> 00:30:46,641
The only question I pose for the

773
00:30:46,641 --> 00:30:48,976
body is, is there a will to

774
00:30:48,976 --> 00:30:51,780
communicate for this case, that

775
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:53,448
to imply or to communicate to

776
00:30:53,448 --> 00:30:55,650
the applicant that we'll be

777
00:30:55,650 --> 00:30:56,500
ready to move forward on JANUARY

778
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:57,485
26th?

779
00:30:57,485 --> 00:30:58,180
That's the question that I have

780
00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:00,180
today.

781
00:31:00,154 --> 00:31:02,790
Now if there's a broader

782
00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:03,157
question can we capture that

783
00:31:03,157 --> 00:31:05,157
separate?

784
00:31:06,494 --> 00:31:10,940
The vote will be or whatever

785
00:31:10,932 --> 00:31:12,666
consensus you need acting

786
00:31:12,666 --> 00:31:15,360
manager for the city to notify

787
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,804
him of that if there's a

788
00:31:16,804 --> 00:31:19,804
consensus of this ody that

789
00:31:19,974 --> 00:31:20,274
please be prepared on JANUARY

790
00:31:20,274 --> 00:31:20,908
26th.

791
00:31:20,908 --> 00:31:22,143
>> yes, sir.

792
00:31:22,143 --> 00:31:23,978
That's the will of council and

793
00:31:23,978 --> 00:31:24,278
we can certainly communicate

794
00:31:24,278 --> 00:31:26,278
that.

795
00:31:27,648 --> 00:31:29,117
>> this is just the temperature.

796
00:31:29,117 --> 00:31:31,352
Does your motion still stand or

797
00:31:31,352 --> 00:31:31,720
you want to do something

798
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,720
different?

799
00:31:33,855 --> 00:31:35,523
>> I think exactly what you are

800
00:31:35,523 --> 00:31:35,990
saying is my motion.

801
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:37,990
>> okay.

802
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:40,610
We're ready to go.

803
00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:41,195
Council I look to you for

804
00:31:41,195 --> 00:31:42,797
action.

805
00:31:42,797 --> 00:31:45,660
Consensus to communicate what

806
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,660
was stated.

807
00:31:47,501 --> 00:31:51,101
MADAM Can you're the system for

808
00:31:58,179 --> 00:32:00,179
us?

809
00:32:00,748 --> 00:32:02,684
There we go.

810
00:32:02,684 --> 00:32:04,352
Council member banks-mclaughlin?

811
00:32:04,352 --> 00:32:05,200
>> green.

812
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,200
>> alright.

813
00:32:08,323 --> 00:32:11,323
MR. Harmon you got it.

814
00:32:12,861 --> 00:32:14,861
Communicated.

815
00:32:16,331 --> 00:32:17,565
Those voted apposed?

816
00:32:17,565 --> 00:32:19,565
Hondros and greene.

817
00:32:21,402 --> 00:32:23,571
Motion carries 8-2 so look

818
00:32:23,571 --> 00:32:25,740
forward to dealing with this

819
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:27,740
again in 26.

820
00:32:28,443 --> 00:32:30,443
So item 9.02.

821
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,681
MR. Harmon is that you, as well?

822
00:32:33,681 --> 00:32:34,249
>> it is MR. Mayor.

823
00:32:34,249 --> 00:32:36,249
Thank you.

824
00:32:36,651 --> 00:32:40,251
The other public hearing we have

825
00:32:40,822 --> 00:32:43,758
this evening is an annexation.

826
00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:46,758
You MAY recall during your

827
00:32:47,228 --> 00:32:49,640
consent agenda, you tentatively

828
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,664
approved a new zoning for this

829
00:32:52,668 --> 00:32:55,337
property if it is annexed that

830
00:32:55,337 --> 00:32:55,737
new zoning would be light

831
00:32:55,737 --> 00:32:57,737
industrial.

832
00:32:59,274 --> 00:33:01,509
This is property owned buy is

833
00:33:01,509 --> 00:33:03,509
regarding commercial development

834
00:33:06,648 --> 00:33:08,817
and lori lori epler is

835
00:33:08,817 --> 00:33:10,817
representing them.

836
00:33:10,819 --> 00:33:13,819
3456 black and decker road just

837
00:33:15,223 --> 00:33:16,357
over 2.5 acres in COUNCILMAN

838
00:33:16,357 --> 00:33:18,357
Davis jurisdiction.

839
00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:22,130
Just to give you an idea where

840
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:22,864
the property is located we have

841
00:33:22,864 --> 00:33:26,464
black and decker road here and

842
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,804
this is the wal-mart that faces

843
00:33:28,804 --> 00:33:30,238
gillespie here.

844
00:33:30,238 --> 00:33:33,238
All of these properties through

845
00:33:35,644 --> 00:33:38,470
this area are all either city or

846
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:40,470
county, industrial properties.

847
00:33:41,183 --> 00:33:44,183
This roperty is currently zoned

848
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:46,522
mp in the county which is

849
00:33:46,522 --> 00:33:48,922
manufacturing which is their

850
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,193
version of our industrial

851
00:33:51,193 --> 00:33:53,193
districts.

852
00:33:53,862 --> 00:33:55,197
Currently the property is vacant

853
00:33:55,197 --> 00:33:57,197
and wooded.

854
00:33:57,666 --> 00:33:58,834
Just some photographs of some of

855
00:33:58,834 --> 00:34:00,834
the surrounding things.

856
00:34:02,204 --> 00:34:04,640
There is a housing development

857
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,741
kind of mainly to the south and

858
00:34:05,741 --> 00:34:08,477
some of the east of the property

859
00:34:08,477 --> 00:34:11,477
but other than that everything

860
00:34:11,614 --> 00:34:13,616
is industrial around it.

861
00:34:13,616 --> 00:34:16,616
Staff does recommend adoption of

862
00:34:18,253 --> 00:34:20,653
this proposed ordinance nnexing

863
00:34:20,923 --> 00:34:21,524
this property with an effective

864
00:34:21,524 --> 00:34:23,524
date of today.

865
00:34:24,494 --> 00:34:28,940
If you have questions of this,

866
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:31,668
if you would wait to pose those

867
00:34:31,668 --> 00:34:34,200
to staff after your legislative

868
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,237
hearing over.

869
00:34:35,237 --> 00:34:37,106
Thank you, sir.

870
00:34:37,106 --> 00:34:38,808
>> thank you MR. Harmon.

871
00:34:38,808 --> 00:34:41,208
Open the ublic hearing.

872
00:34:42,311 --> 00:34:44,711
>> we have one speaker.

873
00:34:44,714 --> 00:34:46,714
Lori epler.

874
00:34:47,917 --> 00:34:49,852
>> good evening MS. Epler, how

875
00:34:49,852 --> 00:34:51,852
are you?

876
00:34:52,688 --> 00:34:54,824
>> well MR. Mayor and council,

877
00:34:54,824 --> 00:34:56,959
as you heard the initial zoning

878
00:34:56,959 --> 00:34:59,262
was passed on your consent

879
00:34:59,262 --> 00:35:02,862
agenda so we're just asking for

880
00:35:06,169 --> 00:35:07,303
the annexing so this property

881
00:35:07,303 --> 00:35:08,738
can be developed.

882
00:35:08,738 --> 00:35:10,372
If you have questions I'll be

883
00:35:10,372 --> 00:35:11,473
here otherwise, I'll let you get

884
00:35:11,473 --> 00:35:13,243
on with your business.

885
00:35:13,243 --> 00:35:14,543
>> thank you ma'am.

886
00:35:14,543 --> 00:35:14,910
Council member davis you have a

887
00:35:14,910 --> 00:35:16,910
question?

888
00:35:17,813 --> 00:35:20,249
>> if there's no uestions I'm

889
00:35:20,249 --> 00:35:21,818
prepared to make a motion.

890
00:35:21,818 --> 00:35:23,452
>> scan your colleagues.

891
00:35:23,452 --> 00:35:24,387
I don't see any.

892
00:35:24,387 --> 00:35:26,387
Thank you.

893
00:35:26,422 --> 00:35:27,560
With that we'll close the public

894
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:27,724
hearing.

895
00:35:27,724 --> 00:35:29,724
Council member davis?

896
00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:33,363
>> at this time I move to adopt

897
00:35:33,363 --> 00:35:35,531
the annexation oured answer in

898
00:35:35,531 --> 00:35:37,531
with OCTOBER 27th, 2025.

899
00:35:39,369 --> 00:35:41,769
>> motion and seconded by

900
00:35:41,971 --> 00:35:44,971
council member thompson to adopt

901
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:48,745
the ordinance with pro

902
00:35:48,745 --> 00:35:48,978
annexation.

903
00:35:48,978 --> 00:35:50,978
I

904
00:35:51,681 --> 00:35:52,314
I look forward to your votes

905
00:35:52,314 --> 00:35:54,314
council.

906
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:57,154
The screen ain't working with us

907
00:35:57,154 --> 00:35:58,654
tonight, is it?

908
00:35:58,654 --> 00:36:00,230
Alright.

909
00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:00,623
Council member banks-mclaughlin?

910
00:36:00,623 --> 00:36:01,224
>> green.

911
00:36:01,224 --> 00:36:03,224
>> alright.

912
00:36:03,894 --> 00:36:05,828
Motion carries unanimous.

913
00:36:05,828 --> 00:36:07,828
Motion adjourn.

914
00:36:07,965 --> 00:36:09,866
>> before we adjourn?

915
00:36:09,866 --> 00:36:11,866
>> oh!

916
00:36:14,137 --> 00:36:14,403
Man I done got excited.

917
00:36:14,403 --> 00:36:15,972
Oh.

918
00:36:15,972 --> 00:36:17,473
We skipped an item.

919
00:36:17,473 --> 00:36:19,873
That's what it is.

920
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:21,812
Sorry about that chiefs.

921
00:36:21,812 --> 00:36:23,812
We're still cool.

922
00:36:23,846 --> 00:36:25,846
I'm sorry.

923
00:36:26,149 --> 00:36:26,750
We move to nine point items to

924
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:28,750
the middle.

925
00:36:28,751 --> 00:36:30,751
I'm sorry.

926
00:36:33,123 --> 00:36:33,423
My fault.

927
00:36:33,423 --> 00:36:34,558
Haire?

928
00:36:34,558 --> 00:36:35,492
I got excited.

929
00:36:35,492 --> 00:36:37,427
>> thank you mayor.

930
00:36:37,427 --> 00:36:40,397
I want to make sure before we

931
00:36:40,397 --> 00:36:41,865
move to that item I want to make

932
00:36:41,865 --> 00:36:43,330
sure I'm on the same page

933
00:36:43,330 --> 00:36:46,633
because we did not speaking of

934
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:52,243
it down here but in our consent

935
00:36:52,243 --> 00:36:55,243
item 7-point 0, 85 and the time

936
00:36:55,246 --> 00:36:59,446
that I was speaking of in ur

937
00:37:02,686 --> 00:37:05,860
pre meeting for 1912 murchison

938
00:37:05,222 --> 00:37:07,691
road for the demo and the

939
00:37:07,691 --> 00:37:10,594
additional time that I was

940
00:37:10,594 --> 00:37:13,998
having to discuss about how it

941
00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:16,266
would be worked out between the

942
00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:18,102
owner and staff, did we need to

943
00:37:18,102 --> 00:37:19,770
do anything about that?

944
00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:20,971
Nothing was said upstairs and it

945
00:37:20,971 --> 00:37:21,872
was just left.

946
00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:23,674
>> it's passed.

947
00:37:23,674 --> 00:37:26,277
The order is in place.

948
00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:26,810
>> it was not to change the

949
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:28,810
order.

950
00:37:29,813 --> 00:37:33,216
It was to give the property

951
00:37:33,216 --> 00:37:35,452
owners 60 days to work with

952
00:37:35,452 --> 00:37:38,452
staff on hatever corrections or

953
00:37:39,857 --> 00:37:42,857
other provisions they were have

954
00:37:43,227 --> 00:37:45,796
the discussion about but I never

955
00:37:45,796 --> 00:37:47,932
was taking it off the demo lst.

956
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,733
>> right now there's a demo

957
00:37:49,733 --> 00:37:52,136
order that will go through it's

958
00:37:52,136 --> 00:37:53,537
process which is more than

959
00:37:53,537 --> 00:37:55,506
likely that long but anyone want

960
00:37:55,506 --> 00:37:56,974
to speak to the process?

961
00:37:56,974 --> 00:37:58,876
>> I understand that and thank

962
00:37:58,876 --> 00:38:03,760
you mayor, but so that we can

963
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:07,214
have something in the minutes to

964
00:38:10,188 --> 00:38:13,188
support what the discussion was

965
00:38:13,591 --> 00:38:16,527
>> so council member haire, that

966
00:38:16,527 --> 00:38:17,828
item is gone so we have to

967
00:38:17,828 --> 00:38:18,796
reintroduce something to go back

968
00:38:18,796 --> 00:38:20,464
and deal with that.

969
00:38:20,464 --> 00:38:21,932
You are saying to put some terms

970
00:38:21,932 --> 00:38:23,932
or provisions.

971
00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:28,573
Let me go to the attorney from a

972
00:38:28,573 --> 00:38:29,440
procedural standpoint?

973
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,608
Laws that work?

974
00:38:30,608 --> 00:38:32,608
>> yes, sr.

975
00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:36,313
We can work with all property

976
00:38:36,313 --> 00:38:37,314
owners once you all approve a

977
00:38:37,314 --> 00:38:39,314
demolition ordinance.

978
00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:41,719
Our efforts for voluntary

979
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,322
compliance does not stop there,

980
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,390
and we do not have the ability

981
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:48,659
to turn around the day after you

982
00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:50,828
all prove an ordinance and go

983
00:38:50,828 --> 00:38:52,430
out with a contractor which I

984
00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:54,465
mentioned is a process.

985
00:38:54,465 --> 00:38:56,968
There is a process and it does

986
00:38:56,968 --> 00:38:58,369
take some time and certainly

987
00:38:58,369 --> 00:39:00,972
during the time where we are

988
00:39:00,972 --> 00:39:02,540
still running our process to

989
00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:04,576
identify who our contractor will

990
00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:06,780
be and get them under contract

991
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:07,812
we're in communication with

992
00:39:07,812 --> 00:39:09,812
property oners.

993
00:39:10,314 --> 00:39:12,317
If it's their desire to bring

994
00:39:12,317 --> 00:39:13,584
the roperty into compliance we

995
00:39:13,584 --> 00:39:15,853
certainly ontinue o work with

996
00:39:15,853 --> 00:39:16,188
them right up to the last

997
00:39:16,188 --> 00:39:18,188
second.

998
00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:20,191
>> then if I could, just putting

999
00:39:20,191 --> 00:39:23,127
it in the minutes not trying to

1000
00:39:23,127 --> 00:39:25,527
change what's already been

1001
00:39:25,564 --> 00:39:28,564
approved I would like that

1002
00:39:30,234 --> 00:39:33,400
discussion to be with the other

1003
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400
2005 murchison road property.

1004
00:39:36,241 --> 00:39:39,210
>> did the clerk captured the

1005
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:39,778
recording so she'll document

1006
00:39:39,778 --> 00:39:41,778
accordingly.

1007
00:39:41,947 --> 00:39:43,281
Moving to 8.0.

1008
00:39:43,281 --> 00:39:45,681
Chief will you at?

1009
00:39:47,986 --> 00:39:52,186
I didn't mean to leave you out.

1010
00:39:52,858 --> 00:39:54,858
Come on up.

1011
00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:07,205
Good to see you, chief.

1012
00:40:07,205 --> 00:40:08,106
>> good evening MR. Mayor and

1013
00:40:08,106 --> 00:40:09,808
members of the council.

1014
00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:11,709
I'm before you tonight to

1015
00:40:11,709 --> 00:40:14,109
present the 2025 fire department

1016
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,348
third quarter report.

1017
00:40:16,348 --> 00:40:18,583
First we want to share a few

1018
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:18,917
quick highlights from third

1019
00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:20,652
quarter.

1020
00:40:20,652 --> 00:40:23,652
We advertise and hiring process

1021
00:40:24,323 --> 00:40:26,825
for our plan JANUARY 2026 at the

1022
00:40:26,825 --> 00:40:28,825
academy and received 245

1023
00:40:29,261 --> 00:40:30,696
applicants and 63 percent of

1024
00:40:30,696 --> 00:40:32,164
those were from

1025
00:40:32,164 --> 00:40:33,999
under-represented populations

1026
00:40:33,999 --> 00:40:35,834
and 40 were female.

1027
00:40:35,834 --> 00:40:38,234
25 recruits graduated from our

1028
00:40:39,371 --> 00:40:40,639
fire academy and are completing

1029
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:42,674
emt school as we speak.

1030
00:40:42,674 --> 00:40:45,810
We decided to have them on the

1031
00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:48,790
fire trucks next week.

1032
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:50,479
Something really exciting our

1033
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:52,351
search and rescue team completed

1034
00:40:52,351 --> 00:40:54,190
training.

1035
00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:55,387
The fayetteville tech regional

1036
00:40:55,387 --> 00:40:57,387
fire training facility.

1037
00:40:57,623 --> 00:41:00,425
This prop is the first of it's

1038
00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:01,960
kinds in the world.

1039
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,763
Our folks have the opportunity

1040
00:41:04,763 --> 00:41:06,965
to simulate working in and train

1041
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:10,565
on working on a looded house

1042
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,436
and removing themselves from

1043
00:41:15,207 --> 00:41:15,607
windows and attics during those

1044
00:41:15,607 --> 00:41:17,607
situations.

1045
00:41:20,212 --> 00:41:22,810
The folks at ftc bend over

1046
00:41:22,810 --> 00:41:23,449
backwards to make sure our

1047
00:41:23,449 --> 00:41:24,784
responders have anything they

1048
00:41:24,784 --> 00:41:28,384
need to be successful and this

1049
00:41:28,454 --> 00:41:30,723
is just the latest example.

1050
00:41:30,723 --> 00:41:33,492
Our third quarter call volume

1051
00:41:33,492 --> 00:41:36,492
was 7593 total calls for service

1052
00:41:37,763 --> 00:41:41,363
with AUGUST being the busiest at

1053
00:41:43,690 --> 00:41:45,690
2620 of those.

1054
00:41:47,273 --> 00:41:47,573
Here are incidents by category.

1055
00:41:47,573 --> 00:41:49,573
4854.

1056
00:41:50,750 --> 00:41:52,411
There were 842 service calls and

1057
00:41:52,411 --> 00:41:55,381
these included things like water

1058
00:41:55,381 --> 00:41:55,948
leaks and public service lift

1059
00:41:55,948 --> 00:41:57,483
assist.

1060
00:41:57,483 --> 00:41:59,883
Assist police with some

1061
00:42:00,190 --> 00:42:02,419
equipment and illegal burning.

1062
00:42:03,455 --> 00:42:06,455
There were 793 good intent calls

1063
00:42:07,526 --> 00:42:10,526
and are largely cancelled into

1064
00:42:10,696 --> 00:42:13,299
route to smoke scares or no

1065
00:42:13,299 --> 00:42:15,699
incident found upon arrival.

1066
00:42:16,136 --> 00:42:18,536
665 false fire alarms and 229

1067
00:42:19,405 --> 00:42:19,705
fires and 213 hazard condition

1068
00:42:19,705 --> 00:42:21,705
calls.

1069
00:42:22,875 --> 00:42:26,475
These are not to be confused

1070
00:42:26,946 --> 00:42:28,815
with hazard materials cause even

1071
00:42:28,815 --> 00:42:30,850
though they do fall in there.

1072
00:42:30,850 --> 00:42:31,717
This includes over heated

1073
00:42:31,717 --> 00:42:33,717
motors.

1074
00:42:35,922 --> 00:42:36,622
Electrical power lines down and

1075
00:42:36,622 --> 00:42:38,622
defective equipment.

1076
00:42:39,792 --> 00:42:42,192
Our response times remain

1077
00:42:42,461 --> 00:42:44,197
consistent and well under our 8

1078
00:42:44,197 --> 00:42:46,565
minute response time goal.

1079
00:42:46,565 --> 00:42:48,834
We responded to 50 structure

1080
00:42:48,834 --> 00:42:49,502
fires and 19 started in the

1081
00:42:49,502 --> 00:42:51,502
kitchen.

1082
00:42:51,871 --> 00:42:53,840
That number is trending back

1083
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,742
down in the right direction so

1084
00:42:55,742 --> 00:42:57,810
we're happy about that.

1085
00:42:57,810 --> 00:43:00,246
There were no fire fatalities.

1086
00:43:00,246 --> 00:43:01,748
8 civilian injuries and three

1087
00:43:01,748 --> 00:43:03,748
firefighter injuries.

1088
00:43:04,516 --> 00:43:06,419
63 percent of the structures

1089
00:43:06,419 --> 00:43:06,752
were contained to the roof of

1090
00:43:06,752 --> 00:43:08,752
origin.

1091
00:43:09,889 --> 00:43:11,657
We were able to in improve our

1092
00:43:11,657 --> 00:43:13,657
dollar savory shoe.

1093
00:43:14,427 --> 00:43:17,427
We're at 97.3 percent while we

1094
00:43:17,530 --> 00:43:20,530
had 1.5 million in property loss

1095
00:43:20,733 --> 00:43:21,301
we saw 58.4 million in property

1096
00:43:21,301 --> 00:43:23,301
saved.

1097
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:27,700
There were 23 vehicle fires and

1098
00:43:27,941 --> 00:43:28,241
four and one lithium battery

1099
00:43:28,241 --> 00:43:30,241
fire.

1100
00:43:30,944 --> 00:43:32,912
Top three fire losses last

1101
00:43:32,912 --> 00:43:34,912
quarter were multi-family

1102
00:43:35,682 --> 00:43:37,884
dwelling and a single-family

1103
00:43:37,884 --> 00:43:40,220
dwelling on elmherst and a

1104
00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:41,870
commercial structure on

1105
00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:43,870
murchison road.

1106
00:43:45,525 --> 00:43:46,626
As we said there were 4

1107
00:43:46,626 --> 00:43:47,460
854

1108
00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:49,460
medical responses.

1109
00:43:52,990 --> 00:43:54,301
As you can see the overdose

1110
00:43:54,301 --> 00:43:56,169
response and narcan treatment

1111
00:43:56,169 --> 00:43:58,569
continue to trend downward.

1112
00:43:59,806 --> 00:44:01,842
There were 65 total has material

1113
00:44:01,842 --> 00:44:04,242
responses nd 38 were natural

1114
00:44:06,813 --> 00:44:09,182
gas, five were carbon monoxide

1115
00:44:09,182 --> 00:44:10,850
and our regional response team

1116
00:44:10,850 --> 00:44:11,451
responded to five calls outside

1117
00:44:11,451 --> 00:44:13,451
of the city.

1118
00:44:14,154 --> 00:44:15,922
On to our human capital.

1119
00:44:15,922 --> 00:44:18,959
At the end of the third quarter

1120
00:44:18,959 --> 00:44:21,128
we had 6 firefighter vacancies

1121
00:44:21,128 --> 00:44:24,128
and one fire inspector vacancy

1122
00:44:24,397 --> 00:44:26,800
and we welcomed academy 2-25 so

1123
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,669
as of today we don't have any

1124
00:44:29,669 --> 00:44:32,639
firefighter vacancies and we are

1125
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:33,707
only carrying one firefighter

1126
00:44:33,707 --> 00:44:35,707
inspector vacancy.

1127
00:44:37,244 --> 00:44:38,946
>> that's pretty good, sir.

1128
00:44:38,946 --> 00:44:40,946
[Applause]

1129
00:44:43,417 --> 00:44:43,850
>> we had three retires and 8

1130
00:44:43,850 --> 00:44:45,219
resignations.

1131
00:44:45,219 --> 00:44:46,520
Of those only one left for

1132
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,120
another job in the fire service

1133
00:44:50,791 --> 00:44:53,593
and that's big for us in our

1134
00:44:53,593 --> 00:44:55,593
business.

1135
00:44:56,697 --> 00:44:57,598
We're up to 25%

1136
00:44:57,598 --> 00:44:58,932
under-represented population at

1137
00:44:58,932 --> 00:45:00,501
the end of the third quarter

1138
00:45:00,501 --> 00:45:02,503
while this number is still short

1139
00:45:02,503 --> 00:45:06,103
of our goal of 30 percent it's

1140
00:45:06,373 --> 00:45:09,143
the highest in my ten year and

1141
00:45:09,143 --> 00:45:10,577
with the outcome 06 ur hiring

1142
00:45:10,577 --> 00:45:13,914
process is we look forward to

1143
00:45:13,914 --> 00:45:14,214
continue to move that to the

1144
00:45:14,214 --> 00:45:16,214
goal.

1145
00:45:16,317 --> 00:45:18,686
As you can see here our training

1146
00:45:18,686 --> 00:45:20,488
and recruitment staff stayed

1147
00:45:20,488 --> 00:45:23,191
busy in the third quarter.

1148
00:45:23,191 --> 00:45:25,591
They did hiring, career

1149
00:45:25,693 --> 00:45:26,993
development, promotions and

1150
00:45:26,993 --> 00:45:27,494
career continuing education for

1151
00:45:27,494 --> 00:45:29,494
our department.

1152
00:45:29,564 --> 00:45:30,831
The department as a whole

1153
00:45:30,831 --> 00:45:31,865
completed nearly 34 thousand

1154
00:45:31,865 --> 00:45:32,700
hours of training the third

1155
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:34,700
quarter alone.

1156
00:45:35,903 --> 00:45:37,705
Our goal is not to train to get

1157
00:45:37,705 --> 00:45:39,406
it right but our goal is to

1158
00:45:39,406 --> 00:45:40,174
train until we can't get it

1159
00:45:40,174 --> 00:45:42,174
wrong.

1160
00:45:43,344 --> 00:45:43,677
Moving into the fire marshal's

1161
00:45:43,677 --> 00:45:45,379
office.

1162
00:45:45,379 --> 00:45:47,247
As you know we've had a

1163
00:45:47,247 --> 00:45:49,483
significant makeover of our

1164
00:45:49,483 --> 00:45:49,784
office in the past year and a

1165
00:45:49,784 --> 00:45:51,784
half.

1166
00:45:52,754 --> 00:45:54,354
We've added staff and refocused

1167
00:45:54,354 --> 00:45:54,656
efforts with several goals in

1168
00:45:54,656 --> 00:45:56,656
mind.

1169
00:45:56,757 --> 00:45:57,791
The over arching goal is

1170
00:45:57,791 --> 00:46:00,791
everyone that does business in

1171
00:46:00,895 --> 00:46:02,697
the city of fayetteville does it

1172
00:46:02,697 --> 00:46:03,931
safely by meeting the intent of

1173
00:46:03,931 --> 00:46:04,320
the fire code.

1174
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,320
-

1175
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:08,200
nothing more and nothing less.

1176
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,400
Every patron and business in the

1177
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,600
city of fayetteville is safe and

1178
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,908
not exposed to any harm.

1179
00:46:13,908 --> 00:46:14,975
Lastly we want to ensure that

1180
00:46:14,975 --> 00:46:16,810
anyone and everyone that wants

1181
00:46:16,810 --> 00:46:21,100
to do business in this city can

1182
00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:23,651
do it was providing timely plan

1183
00:46:23,651 --> 00:46:25,953
reviewed and planning from the

1184
00:46:25,953 --> 00:46:27,953
fire department side.

1185
00:46:28,889 --> 00:46:30,592
As you can see, new plan

1186
00:46:30,592 --> 00:46:32,527
reviewed are up by over 500.

1187
00:46:32,527 --> 00:46:33,628
These are things like building

1188
00:46:33,628 --> 00:46:34,395
plans.

1189
00:46:34,395 --> 00:46:36,630
Site plans.

1190
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:38,332
Fire extinguish meant and gates

1191
00:46:38,332 --> 00:46:38,666
and barricades and many other

1192
00:46:38,666 --> 00:46:40,666
things.

1193
00:46:40,968 --> 00:46:43,968
These are often requested as

1194
00:46:44,506 --> 00:46:45,206
express reviews and with our

1195
00:46:45,206 --> 00:46:47,542
reconfiguration of the office

1196
00:46:47,542 --> 00:46:48,543
we're now able to meet the time

1197
00:46:48,543 --> 00:46:49,677
requirements set forth by

1198
00:46:49,677 --> 00:46:51,677
general statute.

1199
00:46:52,414 --> 00:46:52,513
Our fire inspections are down

1200
00:46:52,513 --> 00:46:54,249
-

1201
00:46:54,249 --> 00:46:56,170
slightly his is because we have

1202
00:46:56,170 --> 00:46:57,685
three new inspectors in training

1203
00:46:57,685 --> 00:46:59,553
and they are shadowing.

1204
00:46:59,553 --> 00:47:02,623
They will be released in the

1205
00:47:02,623 --> 00:47:05,160
next month and this number will

1206
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,528
increase significantly next

1207
00:47:06,528 --> 00:47:08,528
quarter.

1208
00:47:09,531 --> 00:47:11,666
Fire inspections and maintenance

1209
00:47:11,666 --> 00:47:12,234
inspections include foster

1210
00:47:12,234 --> 00:47:14,234
homes.

1211
00:47:14,702 --> 00:47:17,702
Hotels and any other commercial

1212
00:47:18,373 --> 00:47:19,674
occupancy and include tent

1213
00:47:19,674 --> 00:47:22,740
inspections and special event

1214
00:47:22,477 --> 00:47:23,544
and fireworks inspections.

1215
00:47:23,544 --> 00:47:26,140
Depending on the occupancy type

1216
00:47:26,140 --> 00:47:28,383
these are done on a one to three

1217
00:47:28,383 --> 00:47:28,717
year rotation per general

1218
00:47:28,717 --> 00:47:30,619
statute.

1219
00:47:30,619 --> 00:47:33,589
The fire code violations shook

1220
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:34,220
me up some because they are up

1221
00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:36,220
dramatically.

1222
00:47:36,225 --> 00:47:38,293
The number took me by surprise

1223
00:47:38,293 --> 00:47:40,729
because it does not correlate to

1224
00:47:40,729 --> 00:47:43,129
an ncreased number of

1225
00:47:43,198 --> 00:47:45,198
inspections like 2024 did.

1226
00:47:45,467 --> 00:47:47,168
So a great deal of my time and

1227
00:47:47,168 --> 00:47:48,837
probably some time when I should

1228
00:47:48,837 --> 00:47:51,673
have been sleeping was going

1229
00:47:51,673 --> 00:47:53,509
over these numbers trying to

1230
00:47:53,509 --> 00:47:54,843
digest them and working with the

1231
00:47:54,843 --> 00:47:57,145
fire marshal to try to

1232
00:47:57,145 --> 00:47:59,381
understand the data real honest

1233
00:47:59,381 --> 00:48:02,284
answer is our fire marshal's

1234
00:48:02,284 --> 00:48:04,653
office is just doing a better

1235
00:48:04,653 --> 00:48:05,354
job.

1236
00:48:05,354 --> 00:48:06,989
Job.

1237
00:48:06,989 --> 00:48:09,989
But I need everyone to

1238
00:48:09,992 --> 00:48:11,930
understand that we're not in the

1239
00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:12,828
gotcha business.

1240
00:48:12,828 --> 00:48:14,996
We're not doing that.

1241
00:48:14,996 --> 00:48:16,498
We are in the business to make

1242
00:48:16,498 --> 00:48:18,800
everything meet fire code.

1243
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,836
With that said 47 percent of the

1244
00:48:20,836 --> 00:48:22,304
violations are identified and

1245
00:48:22,304 --> 00:48:24,439
corrected at the same time so as

1246
00:48:24,439 --> 00:48:26,241
the inspector and the occupant

1247
00:48:26,241 --> 00:48:28,277
walk through the business they

1248
00:48:28,277 --> 00:48:29,277
identify them and fix them and

1249
00:48:29,277 --> 00:48:31,277
everything is good.

1250
00:48:31,580 --> 00:48:33,215
This doesn't require any

1251
00:48:33,215 --> 00:48:34,883
reinspections or money from our

1252
00:48:34,883 --> 00:48:36,883
business owner's pockets.

1253
00:48:37,286 --> 00:48:39,188
The rest are largely things that

1254
00:48:39,188 --> 00:48:41,588
require license contractors to

1255
00:48:41,857 --> 00:48:43,525
fix or additional parts and

1256
00:48:43,525 --> 00:48:44,125
materials that are not

1257
00:48:44,125 --> 00:48:46,125
immediately available.

1258
00:48:46,528 --> 00:48:48,864
In 30 days we confirm these

1259
00:48:48,864 --> 00:48:51,264
items have been addressed.

1260
00:48:51,266 --> 00:48:53,135
I say all that to say that we,

1261
00:48:53,135 --> 00:48:55,360
as a department, we need to do a

1262
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,839
better job of educating our

1263
00:48:56,839 --> 00:48:57,240
business owners before the

1264
00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:58,974
inspection.

1265
00:48:58,974 --> 00:49:00,843
We have to give them the test

1266
00:49:00,843 --> 00:49:02,411
but we can lso give them the

1267
00:49:02,411 --> 00:49:04,347
answers to the test before we

1268
00:49:04,347 --> 00:49:06,347
get there.

1269
00:49:06,949 --> 00:49:09,852
So you'll see social media

1270
00:49:09,852 --> 00:49:10,219
information, podcasts with

1271
00:49:10,219 --> 00:49:12,219
official.

1272
00:49:13,189 --> 00:49:13,923
We'll send out fliers and other

1273
00:49:13,923 --> 00:49:16,323
educational information to our

1274
00:49:16,825 --> 00:49:17,860
business owners and look at some

1275
00:49:17,860 --> 00:49:19,828
other things.

1276
00:49:19,828 --> 00:49:21,564
Community risk reduction folks

1277
00:49:21,564 --> 00:49:23,666
and the help of the cities

1278
00:49:23,666 --> 00:49:24,330
marketing and communications

1279
00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:26,330
group.

1280
00:49:26,302 --> 00:49:27,604
It's our goal and our

1281
00:49:27,604 --> 00:49:28,237
responsibility to make

1282
00:49:28,237 --> 00:49:30,237
information available to

1283
00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:32,908
business owner, so e can set

1284
00:49:32,908 --> 00:49:36,212
them up for success so that what

1285
00:49:36,212 --> 00:49:37,880
we're going to do.

1286
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,480
The top five violations that we

1287
00:49:41,851 --> 00:49:44,251
found are electrical issues,

1288
00:49:44,454 --> 00:49:46,388
fire extinguishers and general

1289
00:49:46,388 --> 00:49:48,757
items such as address markers

1290
00:49:48,757 --> 00:49:50,757
and outdated equipment.

1291
00:49:51,961 --> 00:49:53,429
Emergency power systems and fire

1292
00:49:53,429 --> 00:49:55,429
protection equipment.

1293
00:49:56,366 --> 00:49:58,501
Now we're moving on to the

1294
00:49:58,501 --> 00:49:59,769
community reduction.

1295
00:49:59,769 --> 00:50:01,769
The good stuff.

1296
00:50:02,672 --> 00:50:05,809
The third quarter allowed us to

1297
00:50:05,809 --> 00:50:08,209
engage 6655 residents and attend

1298
00:50:09,445 --> 00:50:11,845
164 community events and install

1299
00:50:13,749 --> 00:50:16,149
343 smoke alarms and 84 carbon

1300
00:50:16,219 --> 00:50:16,752
monoxide alarms and fire

1301
00:50:16,752 --> 00:50:18,752
suppressers.

1302
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,456
We corrected 59 child safety

1303
00:50:22,525 --> 00:50:25,525
seat and taught 38 folks hands

1304
00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:27,764
on only cpr and gave station

1305
00:50:27,764 --> 00:50:28,197
tours and held fire

1306
00:50:28,197 --> 00:50:30,197
interventions.

1307
00:50:32,101 --> 00:50:32,602
Now like a broken record as I

1308
00:50:32,602 --> 00:50:34,602
always am.

1309
00:50:35,439 --> 00:50:37,674
Smoke alarms save lives folks.

1310
00:50:37,674 --> 00:50:39,642
Fire does not discriminate.

1311
00:50:39,642 --> 00:50:42,812
If you or anyone you know needs

1312
00:50:42,812 --> 00:50:46,412
a smoke alarm or one checked

1313
00:50:47,183 --> 00:50:48,618
please call us immediately at

1314
00:50:48,618 --> 00:50:51,540
433-1116 and we'll be there

1315
00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:52,155
promptly to take care of you at

1316
00:50:52,155 --> 00:50:53,223
no cost.

1317
00:50:53,223 --> 00:50:54,791
Nobody should lay down their

1318
00:50:54,791 --> 00:50:56,793
head to sleep without a working

1319
00:50:56,793 --> 00:50:58,795
smoke alarm and I'm happy to

1320
00:50:58,795 --> 00:51:00,795
take your questions.

1321
00:51:01,197 --> 00:51:03,197
>> thank you, chief.

1322
00:51:04,901 --> 00:51:06,536
Great presentation.

1323
00:51:06,536 --> 00:51:08,536
COUNCILMAN Haire?

1324
00:51:08,605 --> 00:51:11,174
>> just want to continue to give

1325
00:51:11,174 --> 00:51:14,344
a thumb's up to that last scan

1326
00:51:14,344 --> 00:51:15,779
bar you had up there on the

1327
00:51:15,779 --> 00:51:17,779
screen.

1328
00:51:19,149 --> 00:51:19,482
Chief, would you put it back

1329
00:51:19,482 --> 00:51:21,482
please?

1330
00:51:22,286 --> 00:51:24,654
About the free smoke detectors

1331
00:51:24,654 --> 00:51:24,954
so citizens can look at that

1332
00:51:24,954 --> 00:51:26,589
again.

1333
00:51:26,589 --> 00:51:29,693
I want to support that statement

1334
00:51:29,693 --> 00:51:31,694
that you said, chief that smoke

1335
00:51:31,694 --> 00:51:34,694
detectors they do and smoke

1336
00:51:34,931 --> 00:51:36,800
alarms they do save lives and we

1337
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,501
can't say it enough.

1338
00:51:38,501 --> 00:51:40,938
We give this information out to

1339
00:51:40,938 --> 00:51:43,600
all of our community watch or

1340
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,675
community meetings and I give it

1341
00:51:45,675 --> 00:51:48,211
all the time and I know the

1342
00:51:48,211 --> 00:51:51,214
number by heart and so we

1343
00:51:51,214 --> 00:51:54,117
continue to push and I love to

1344
00:51:54,117 --> 00:51:57,117
give you accolades on this

1345
00:51:57,888 --> 00:52:01,488
because I have had a smoke

1346
00:52:02,893 --> 00:52:05,893
detector and a carbon monoxide

1347
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,660
detector installed free by our

1348
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:11,660
fire department.

1349
00:52:12,669 --> 00:52:13,436
Great job, put it in perfect

1350
00:52:13,436 --> 00:52:15,806
places where you all thought

1351
00:52:15,806 --> 00:52:17,140
they needed to be.

1352
00:52:17,140 --> 00:52:18,642
Cleaned up after yourselves and

1353
00:52:18,642 --> 00:52:21,450
was gone in about 20 minutes so

1354
00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:24,281
thank you and I hope that our

1355
00:52:24,281 --> 00:52:27,281
citizens will write down this

1356
00:52:29,286 --> 00:52:32,222
number, 433-1116 or you can scan

1357
00:52:32,222 --> 00:52:34,592
the bar and ake a picture

1358
00:52:34,592 --> 00:52:36,992
because truly smoke detectors

1359
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,950
and carbon monoxide detectors

1360
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:40,950
save lives.

1361
00:52:40,731 --> 00:52:42,399
>> we also see the qr goals on

1362
00:52:42,399 --> 00:52:44,168
our fire trucks now.

1363
00:52:44,168 --> 00:52:45,602
You see at the grocery store or

1364
00:52:45,602 --> 00:52:47,538
at a community event you can

1365
00:52:47,538 --> 00:52:47,804
walk up to the truck and scan

1366
00:52:47,804 --> 00:52:49,240
it.

1367
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:50,541
>> they work.

1368
00:52:50,541 --> 00:52:51,375
>> thank you.

1369
00:52:51,375 --> 00:52:52,943
Council member thompson?

1370
00:52:52,943 --> 00:52:54,445
>> thank ou MR. Mayor.

1371
00:52:54,445 --> 00:52:55,712
Thank you chief for another

1372
00:52:55,712 --> 00:52:57,712
great presentation.

1373
00:52:57,748 --> 00:52:58,749
I'm excited we're getting ore

1374
00:52:58,749 --> 00:53:00,749
done with less.

1375
00:53:01,351 --> 00:53:01,718
That's very impressive but two

1376
00:53:01,718 --> 00:53:03,718
questions.

1377
00:53:05,289 --> 00:53:08,889
Can you explain to the public

1378
00:53:11,795 --> 00:53:14,298
why there was arise in AUGUST?

1379
00:53:14,298 --> 00:53:17,298
>> those re ebbs and flows.

1380
00:53:18,436 --> 00:53:20,571
That really wasn't anything too

1381
00:53:20,571 --> 00:53:22,971
exciting in our world.

1382
00:53:23,975 --> 00:53:26,110
It's really about 100 calls more

1383
00:53:26,110 --> 00:53:28,980
than JULY and you got to think

1384
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:31,950
most kids are out of school and

1385
00:53:31,950 --> 00:53:33,284
families are on vacation and

1386
00:53:33,284 --> 00:53:34,452
there's travel at the mall

1387
00:53:34,452 --> 00:53:36,153
getting ready for school so

1388
00:53:36,153 --> 00:53:37,421
people are busy.

1389
00:53:37,421 --> 00:53:39,421
>> outstanding.

1390
00:53:39,957 --> 00:53:43,270
So this is more of a question

1391
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:44,895
that I don't know if I should

1392
00:53:44,895 --> 00:53:46,970
address you or the city manager

1393
00:53:46,970 --> 00:53:47,898
in his absence.

1394
00:53:47,898 --> 00:53:49,400
Being retired military I know

1395
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,835
the affects that you're okay

1396
00:53:50,835 --> 00:53:51,136
participation can have on your

1397
00:53:51,136 --> 00:53:52,804
life.

1398
00:53:52,804 --> 00:53:55,540
Not just why you are in there

1399
00:53:55,540 --> 00:53:57,675
but also after you retire.

1400
00:53:57,675 --> 00:54:00,478
I know our first responders.

1401
00:54:00,478 --> 00:54:04,780
fire and police see some things

1402
00:54:05,149 --> 00:54:05,416
that most average person doesn't

1403
00:54:05,416 --> 00:54:07,416
see.

1404
00:54:08,819 --> 00:54:10,880
What precautions do we have or

1405
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,556
programs or counseling do we

1406
00:54:12,556 --> 00:54:15,556
have to help these individuals

1407
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,293
during their tour and after they

1408
00:54:16,293 --> 00:54:18,293
retire?

1409
00:54:19,898 --> 00:54:23,498
>> I'll take care of this one,

1410
00:54:23,702 --> 00:54:25,702
if you want.

1411
00:54:26,571 --> 00:54:29,641
Up until about three years ago

1412
00:54:29,641 --> 00:54:32,641
maybe, mental health was taboo

1413
00:54:34,946 --> 00:54:36,946
in our business.

1414
00:54:38,516 --> 00:54:39,684
We just started to unpack the

1415
00:54:39,684 --> 00:54:41,684
box.

1416
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:42,520
There is no perfect answer for

1417
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,520
your question.

1418
00:54:44,522 --> 00:54:46,324
We are doing things we have

1419
00:54:46,324 --> 00:54:48,930
brought on our first dog and we

1420
00:54:48,930 --> 00:54:50,262
have another dog coming.

1421
00:54:50,262 --> 00:54:51,797
We have peer support internal

1422
00:54:51,797 --> 00:54:54,797
and offered by the state.

1423
00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:59,738
We have chaplain's and e A.P.

1424
00:54:59,738 --> 00:55:02,138
And all those things.

1425
00:55:02,874 --> 00:55:06,111
We have our fingers on the pulse

1426
00:55:06,111 --> 00:55:06,578
of what everyone is doing

1427
00:55:06,578 --> 00:55:08,578
nationally.

1428
00:55:08,947 --> 00:55:10,916
My metro chief group we

1429
00:55:10,916 --> 00:55:12,584
communicate regularly about it.

1430
00:55:12,584 --> 00:55:14,619
Everyone is trying to figure

1431
00:55:14,619 --> 00:55:17,656
that out but the biggest thing

1432
00:55:17,656 --> 00:55:19,858
we don't have an answer for is

1433
00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:22,594
post employment because all of

1434
00:55:22,594 --> 00:55:25,697
our stuff is available to our

1435
00:55:25,697 --> 00:55:29,268
working folks so once you retire

1436
00:55:29,268 --> 00:55:31,360
there is, our internal peer

1437
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,806
support and state peer support

1438
00:55:33,806 --> 00:55:34,873
is available but after that I

1439
00:55:34,873 --> 00:55:36,873
don't know what.

1440
00:55:38,777 --> 00:55:42,977
We don't have a good nswer just

1441
00:55:43,115 --> 00:55:47,252
yet, but we are on it every day

1442
00:55:47,252 --> 00:55:49,988
with our ears to the street.

1443
00:55:49,988 --> 00:55:51,957
There's some other

1444
00:55:51,957 --> 00:55:54,357
municipalities that have brought

1445
00:55:57,362 --> 00:55:59,197
on some of those.

1446
00:55:59,197 --> 00:56:01,733
We're washing and trying to get

1447
00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:03,200
the results from that but I'm

1448
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,700
comfortable and confident saying

1449
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:06,571
anything that I come up with

1450
00:56:06,571 --> 00:56:08,473
I'll get full support from the

1451
00:56:08,473 --> 00:56:10,709
city manager's office and from

1452
00:56:10,709 --> 00:56:12,477
you guys because I have never

1453
00:56:12,477 --> 00:56:14,179
not gotten that support.

1454
00:56:14,179 --> 00:56:14,546
I know that doesn't answer your

1455
00:56:14,546 --> 00:56:15,348
question.

1456
00:56:15,348 --> 00:56:17,348
>> I did.

1457
00:56:18,183 --> 00:56:20,850
>> hope you are comfortable

1458
00:56:20,850 --> 00:56:21,787
knowing that one of our

1459
00:56:21,787 --> 00:56:23,822
assistant chiefs we do know it's

1460
00:56:23,822 --> 00:56:25,290
an issue and we're actively

1461
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:26,692
looking but there's no answer at

1462
00:56:26,692 --> 00:56:28,627
this time.

1463
00:56:28,627 --> 00:56:31,627
>> that was a conversation piece

1464
00:56:32,631 --> 00:56:35,467
we had during a chat about some

1465
00:56:35,467 --> 00:56:36,736
of the trauma our first

1466
00:56:36,736 --> 00:56:39,736
responders go through with some

1467
00:56:39,739 --> 00:56:42,641
of the scenes they have to go to

1468
00:56:42,641 --> 00:56:44,143
and this traumatizing.

1469
00:56:44,143 --> 00:56:46,112
It stays with you or the rest

1470
00:56:46,112 --> 00:56:48,213
of your life and you will need

1471
00:56:48,213 --> 00:56:49,748
that exterior help now or in the

1472
00:56:49,748 --> 00:56:50,883
future we want to make sure

1473
00:56:50,883 --> 00:56:53,385
that's available for all of our

1474
00:56:53,385 --> 00:56:55,385
first responders.

1475
00:56:56,689 --> 00:56:59,425
Thank you chief and MR. Mayor.

1476
00:56:59,425 --> 00:57:01,930
>> council member davis?

1477
00:57:01,930 --> 00:57:02,862
>> I think on the slide where

1478
00:57:02,862 --> 00:57:06,462
you have the fire inspections I

1479
00:57:06,966 --> 00:57:08,668
want to say thank you for, you

1480
00:57:08,668 --> 00:57:10,470
can inform the business owners

1481
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:12,372
in reference to violations

1482
00:57:12,372 --> 00:57:15,408
because I receive a lot of phone

1483
00:57:15,408 --> 00:57:17,310
calls and texts to references

1484
00:57:17,310 --> 00:57:18,110
like church and projects and

1485
00:57:18,110 --> 00:57:19,311
businesses because of the

1486
00:57:19,311 --> 00:57:20,713
violations because they don't

1487
00:57:20,713 --> 00:57:21,847
understand the process so thank

1488
00:57:21,847 --> 00:57:24,820
you for that, sir.

1489
00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:26,252
>> like I said we have to give

1490
00:57:26,252 --> 00:57:27,720
you it but there's nothing

1491
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,320
saying that we can't give you

1492
00:57:32,191 --> 00:57:32,592
the answers to the test

1493
00:57:32,592 --> 00:57:34,592
beforehand.

1494
00:57:35,628 --> 00:57:37,997
>> I move that we accept the

1495
00:57:37,997 --> 00:57:38,831
report from the fire department.

1496
00:57:38,831 --> 00:57:39,899
>> alright.

1497
00:57:39,899 --> 00:57:41,935
Motion by council member

1498
00:57:41,935 --> 00:57:43,569
thompson and second by council

1499
00:57:43,569 --> 00:57:44,804
member davis.

1500
00:57:44,804 --> 00:57:46,804
Discussion?

1501
00:57:48,541 --> 00:57:50,510
council I look for your vote.

1502
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:52,244
Council member banks-mclaughlin?

1503
00:57:52,244 --> 00:57:54,244
>> green.

1504
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,480
>> alright.

1505
00:57:58,551 --> 00:58:01,551
Great job, chief, thank you.

1506
00:58:02,788 --> 00:58:05,188
MADAM Clerk it's unanimous.

1507
00:58:05,391 --> 00:58:07,794
And to your team, chief.

1508
00:58:07,794 --> 00:58:10,960
No man is an island so thank you

1509
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:10,997
to all the firefighters and to

1510
00:58:10,997 --> 00:58:13,397
your team, as well.

1511
00:58:13,399 --> 00:58:13,733
First responders.

1512
00:58:13,733 --> 00:58:15,733
Alright.

1513
00:58:16,302 --> 00:58:16,736
Chief bryant where are you at,

1514
00:58:16,736 --> 00:58:18,736
sir?

1515
00:58:18,972 --> 00:58:20,972
It's your turn.

1516
00:58:21,341 --> 00:58:22,876
Come on down.

1517
00:58:22,876 --> 00:58:24,876
>> good evening.

1518
00:58:28,115 --> 00:58:30,216
First of all I'd like to give

1519
00:58:30,216 --> 00:58:32,685
chief and his team a round of

1520
00:58:32,685 --> 00:58:35,488
applause in regarding being able

1521
00:58:35,488 --> 00:58:38,488
to fill those vacancies because

1522
00:58:38,959 --> 00:58:41,161
I understand that it is a

1523
00:58:41,161 --> 00:58:42,996
challenge and it's extremely

1524
00:58:42,996 --> 00:58:45,996
impressive when they fill all

1525
00:58:47,467 --> 00:58:49,436
over their vacancies so mayor

1526
00:58:49,436 --> 00:58:52,436
and city council and senior

1527
00:58:53,273 --> 00:58:56,900
leadership team and junior MADAM

1528
00:58:56,900 --> 00:58:58,779
Mayor, she's left, has to go to

1529
00:58:58,779 --> 00:59:00,647
school, my name s roberto brian

1530
00:59:00,647 --> 00:59:01,381
and time chief-of-police for

1531
00:59:01,381 --> 00:59:03,381
fayetteville police department

1532
00:59:05,180 --> 00:59:08,618
and here to present our third

1533
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:11,589
quarter report today.

1534
00:59:24,371 --> 00:59:24,705
Here is our slide.

1535
00:59:24,705 --> 00:59:26,705
Alright.

1536
00:59:27,841 --> 00:59:29,642
As you'll see our third quarter

1537
00:59:29,642 --> 00:59:32,420
report will cover JANUARY

1538
00:59:33,847 --> 00:59:35,847
through SEPTEMBER of 2025.

1539
00:59:36,216 --> 00:59:38,418
On our slide here will cover our

1540
00:59:38,418 --> 00:59:40,818
crime tatistics and crime

1541
00:59:41,222 --> 00:59:42,455
trends and our fighting, crime

1542
00:59:42,455 --> 00:59:44,455
fighting strategies and

1543
00:59:45,592 --> 00:59:47,592
community engagement.

1544
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,931
As you'll see on this slide here

1545
00:59:50,931 --> 00:59:53,601
in terms of what we're doing as

1546
00:59:53,601 --> 00:59:56,601
a department, total crime is

1547
00:59:58,272 --> 01:00:01,872
down by over 10% and our arrests

1548
01:00:03,577 --> 01:00:03,911
are also down by just under one

1549
01:00:03,911 --> 01:00:04,745
percent

1550
01:00:04,745 --> 01:00:06,745
percent.

1551
01:00:09,183 --> 01:00:10,617
you can see our crime is down,

1552
01:00:10,617 --> 01:00:12,253
as well as person's crimes and

1553
01:00:12,253 --> 01:00:15,253
property crimes and we continue

1554
01:00:16,623 --> 01:00:20,223
to move in the downward trend.

1555
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,310
As you'll see violent crime by

1556
01:00:24,310 --> 01:00:25,466
far, the elephant in the room is

1557
01:00:25,466 --> 01:00:27,466
our homicides.

1558
01:00:27,468 --> 01:00:30,471
At the beginning of the year we

1559
01:00:30,471 --> 01:00:32,639
were hit pretty hard with those

1560
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:34,141
incidents that took place and so

1561
01:00:34,141 --> 01:00:36,177
far we're continuing to trend

1562
01:00:36,177 --> 01:00:38,779
down but because of that spike

1563
01:00:38,779 --> 01:00:42,116
in the beginning of the year

1564
01:00:42,116 --> 01:00:44,785
we're still up at 68 percent but

1565
01:00:44,785 --> 01:00:49,900
if you look at the rest of the

1566
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:51,525
part one crimes, those are all

1567
01:00:51,525 --> 01:00:53,925
down double-digits so we're

1568
01:00:54,128 --> 01:00:57,728
still being able to come ahead

1569
01:00:58,866 --> 01:01:01,866
and turn to those numbers.

1570
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:06,700
As you'll see here, our homicide

1571
01:01:10,211 --> 01:01:13,211
unit where we have 3 incidents.

1572
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:16,718
34 omicides and you'll see our

1573
01:01:16,718 --> 01:01:18,553
overdoses and suicides.

1574
01:01:18,553 --> 01:01:20,553
>> 32 homicides, right?

1575
01:01:21,856 --> 01:01:24,492
I want to make sure the press

1576
01:01:24,492 --> 01:01:26,327
got that MR. Duffy.

1577
01:01:26,327 --> 01:01:27,428
Not 34.

1578
01:01:27,428 --> 01:01:28,963
Got it.

1579
01:01:28,963 --> 01:01:30,632
>> so one of the things that I

1580
01:01:30,632 --> 01:01:31,966
want to make sure too that we

1581
01:01:31,966 --> 01:01:34,966
understand in terms of what

1582
01:01:35,203 --> 01:01:37,138
we're looking at in terms of our

1583
01:01:37,138 --> 01:01:38,639
homicide department and unit

1584
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:41,142
they are doing an exceptional

1585
01:01:41,142 --> 01:01:43,144
job in terms of when we have the

1586
01:01:43,144 --> 01:01:45,544
national rate for clearances

1587
01:01:47,515 --> 01:01:49,915
about 58 percent our current

1588
01:01:49,951 --> 01:01:52,351
assistance is 87.5 and we

1589
01:01:52,587 --> 01:01:53,721
recently attended the

1590
01:01:53,721 --> 01:01:56,121
international association of the

1591
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:59,528
chief of police and they had

1592
01:01:59,528 --> 01:02:01,262
other homicide units that were

1593
01:02:01,262 --> 01:02:01,362
ranting about their numbers and

1594
01:02:01,362 --> 01:02:02,963
-

1595
01:02:02,963 --> 01:02:05,133
their numbers were not as good

1596
01:02:05,133 --> 01:02:08,136
as or, so I would complend our

1597
01:02:08,136 --> 01:02:10,305
homicide units to be able to

1598
01:02:10,305 --> 01:02:12,907
solve these crimes and put these

1599
01:02:12,907 --> 01:02:14,676
with a bad actors in jail in

1600
01:02:14,676 --> 01:02:17,946
terms of what we're able to do

1601
01:02:17,946 --> 01:02:18,379
here in the city of

1602
01:02:18,379 --> 01:02:20,148
fayetteville.

1603
01:02:20,148 --> 01:02:21,816
>> MR. Mayor can we ask

1604
01:02:21,816 --> 01:02:24,152
questions as we go or you want

1605
01:02:24,152 --> 01:02:25,253
to wait to the end?

1606
01:02:25,253 --> 01:02:27,253
>> thank you.

1607
01:02:29,791 --> 01:02:32,791
I'll come back to you.

1608
01:02:32,994 --> 01:02:35,130
>> also I want to specify in

1609
01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:38,730
terms of the homicides we have

1610
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,800
about ten of these incidents

1611
01:02:43,305 --> 01:02:44,873
were domestic and 18 were known

1612
01:02:44,873 --> 01:02:47,809
individuals that knew each other

1613
01:02:47,809 --> 01:02:49,444
so none of these are random in

1614
01:02:49,444 --> 01:02:51,112
terms of random crimes.

1615
01:02:51,112 --> 01:02:54,112
These are all individuals that

1616
01:02:54,583 --> 01:02:57,586
no each other or have some type

1617
01:02:57,586 --> 01:02:59,954
of relationship rior to.

1618
01:02:59,954 --> 01:03:00,889
Regarding our domestic these are

1619
01:03:00,889 --> 01:03:02,889
our numbers.

1620
01:03:03,158 --> 01:03:07,358
We are trending down in terms of

1621
01:03:07,963 --> 01:03:11,266
those numbers, as well and we

1622
01:03:11,266 --> 01:03:14,569
continue to work with the center

1623
01:03:14,569 --> 01:03:17,773
to make sure victims that are in

1624
01:03:17,773 --> 01:03:19,740
these toxic relationships

1625
01:03:19,740 --> 01:03:20,876
receive the assistance they need

1626
01:03:20,876 --> 01:03:22,378
to get out of that situation and

1627
01:03:22,378 --> 01:03:24,213
that we encourage and do

1628
01:03:24,213 --> 01:03:25,714
everything we can to go ahead

1629
01:03:25,714 --> 01:03:28,150
for them to press charges

1630
01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:30,150
against those abusers.

1631
01:03:30,352 --> 01:03:31,153
>> chief before you go into this

1632
01:03:31,153 --> 01:03:32,121
one.

1633
01:03:32,121 --> 01:03:33,455
Council member thompson?

1634
01:03:33,455 --> 01:03:35,157
>> he answered the question.

1635
01:03:35,157 --> 01:03:37,760
I didn't know what the break

1636
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,160
down of the homicides.

1637
01:03:41,130 --> 01:03:44,500
Were they domestic or acts of

1638
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:47,500
dye violence, he answered that.

1639
01:03:49,171 --> 01:03:51,440
>> alright chief.Violence, he answered that.

1640
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,440
>> alright chief.

1641
01:03:54,109 --> 01:03:55,210
This is our shot spotter.

1642
01:03:55,210 --> 01:03:57,120
340 alerts.

1643
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,612
That breaks down by district and

1644
01:04:00,816 --> 01:04:03,719
the shell casings that are also

1645
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:06,119
recovered in each district.

1646
01:04:07,256 --> 01:04:10,256
Guns and also, arrests resulting

1647
01:04:10,259 --> 01:04:11,827
in those shot spot alerts.

1648
01:04:11,827 --> 01:04:14,960
I think one of the questions

1649
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,198
that came about last friday in

1650
01:04:16,198 --> 01:04:17,766
terms of when we have the

1651
01:04:17,766 --> 01:04:19,902
arrests out of the 14 we've had

1652
01:04:19,902 --> 01:04:22,204
or during this period you are

1653
01:04:22,204 --> 01:04:24,440
talking about 13 out of the 14

1654
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,440
of these arrests were weapons

1655
01:04:27,476 --> 01:04:29,378
recovered or related to a weapon

1656
01:04:29,378 --> 01:04:32,978
so that's the numbers in terms

1657
01:04:33,583 --> 01:04:37,783
of the request that we had on

1658
01:04:40,289 --> 01:04:42,289
friday.

1659
01:04:45,194 --> 01:04:46,896
Next slide is our shot spotter

1660
01:04:46,896 --> 01:04:48,831
dashboard that any citizen here

1661
01:04:48,831 --> 01:04:51,100
in fayetteville or anywhere can

1662
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:52,835
go on the our website and you

1663
01:04:52,835 --> 01:04:54,804
can see these numbers.

1664
01:04:54,804 --> 01:04:57,473
What I will also make sure that

1665
01:04:57,473 --> 01:04:59,473
everyone understands, these

1666
01:05:00,243 --> 01:05:02,243
numbers are continuously

1667
01:05:02,345 --> 01:05:04,314
fluctuating as when we have an

1668
01:05:04,314 --> 01:05:04,914
analyst that can provide

1669
01:05:04,914 --> 01:05:06,315
additional information.

1670
01:05:06,315 --> 01:05:08,885
One of the questions that came

1671
01:05:08,885 --> 01:05:11,821
up recently is regarding blanks

1672
01:05:11,821 --> 01:05:13,189
and as you see up there, it

1673
01:05:13,189 --> 01:05:15,358
shows like 246 so currently

1674
01:05:15,358 --> 01:05:17,460
we're working with I.T. And

1675
01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:20,497
members of their team with our

1676
01:05:20,497 --> 01:05:23,990
team to figure out a better

1677
01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:24,467
category in terms of blanks so

1678
01:05:24,467 --> 01:05:27,269
it won't answer or raise

1679
01:05:27,269 --> 01:05:27,636
questions regarding what is

1680
01:05:27,636 --> 01:05:29,171
blank.

1681
01:05:29,171 --> 01:05:31,400
Now I'd like to give you an

1682
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,400
example of what we're talking

1683
01:05:34,277 --> 01:05:37,877
about blank in terms of I'll

1684
01:05:38,782 --> 01:05:40,850
give you an example.

1685
01:05:40,850 --> 01:05:42,850
This scenario here.

1686
01:05:43,886 --> 01:05:47,486
We have, this was last thursday

1687
01:05:47,623 --> 01:05:49,592
about 9:30 last night.

1688
01:05:49,592 --> 01:05:51,992
All of our commanders.

1689
01:05:52,829 --> 01:05:53,129
We have this on our app on our

1690
01:05:53,129 --> 01:05:54,965
phone.

1691
01:05:54,965 --> 01:05:56,899
When we get an alert this is

1692
01:05:56,899 --> 01:06:00,499
what we experience and this is

1693
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:07,844
what we hear.

1694
01:06:07,844 --> 01:06:09,844
>> wow.

1695
01:06:11,948 --> 01:06:12,281
>> I'll play that one more time.

1696
01:06:12,281 --> 01:06:14,281
Listen.

1697
01:06:14,818 --> 01:06:18,418
Right after you heard the last

1698
01:06:25,228 --> 01:06:25,962
shot tell me what you hear.

1699
01:06:25,962 --> 01:06:27,300
>> car.

1700
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:29,300
>> thank you.

1701
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,200
that's what we hear.

1702
01:06:34,705 --> 01:06:37,705
This call we responded to.

1703
01:06:38,750 --> 01:06:40,475
There was no 911 call.

1704
01:06:40,711 --> 01:06:43,111
There were no witnesses.

1705
01:06:43,647 --> 01:06:44,848
There were no victims.

1706
01:06:44,848 --> 01:06:46,848
>> thank GOD.

1707
01:06:48,251 --> 01:06:50,651
>> but officers responded and

1708
01:06:51,455 --> 01:06:53,455
recovered shell casings.

1709
01:06:54,691 --> 01:06:58,610
That is categorized as a blank

1710
01:06:58,610 --> 01:07:01,661
until we're able to tie those

1711
01:07:01,798 --> 01:07:03,534
casings to an incident or to

1712
01:07:03,534 --> 01:07:05,534
another case.

1713
01:07:06,436 --> 01:07:08,104
That is what shot spotter does.

1714
01:07:08,104 --> 01:07:11,750
And that's what we're alking

1715
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:13,777
about when we're talking about

1716
01:07:13,777 --> 01:07:16,777
80 percent of the alerts are

1717
01:07:18,115 --> 01:07:21,840
those that are coming without a

1718
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:22,886
911 call ut we're still able to

1719
01:07:22,886 --> 01:07:24,870
gather something so we can move

1720
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:26,487
forward with an investigation.

1721
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:29,993
It might not happen today or

1722
01:07:29,993 --> 01:07:31,395
next month, months from now but

1723
01:07:31,395 --> 01:07:34,131
usually we're able to tie it up

1724
01:07:34,131 --> 01:07:35,733
and then we're able to kind of

1725
01:07:35,733 --> 01:07:38,268
piece together where those shell

1726
01:07:38,268 --> 01:07:40,705
casings are with other incidents

1727
01:07:40,705 --> 01:07:41,500
that MAY occur in or around the

1728
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:43,500
city.

1729
01:07:45,242 --> 01:07:45,609
>> chief, I did have two

1730
01:07:45,609 --> 01:07:46,944
questions.

1731
01:07:46,944 --> 01:07:48,379
I guess council member benavente

1732
01:07:48,379 --> 01:07:50,379
changed his perspective.

1733
01:07:50,781 --> 01:07:51,648
>> you applied t to him so you

1734
01:07:51,648 --> 01:07:53,818
can apply it to me.

1735
01:07:53,818 --> 01:07:55,818
>> that's right.

1736
01:07:56,887 --> 01:07:57,522
>> chief brian I appreciate the

1737
01:07:57,522 --> 01:07:59,522
example.

1738
01:08:00,590 --> 01:08:04,262
How often do you guys review the

1739
01:08:04,262 --> 01:08:07,262
sounds of those, I guess 200

1740
01:08:08,332 --> 01:08:08,999
blanks or how many was it?

1741
01:08:08,999 --> 01:08:10,999
>> 246.

1742
01:08:11,168 --> 01:08:14,720
We do every single one of them.

1743
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,672
We have an, analyst assigned to

1744
01:08:17,841 --> 01:08:19,430
listen to every single call and

1745
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:21,312
categorize them and they put in

1746
01:08:21,312 --> 01:08:23,281
the notes whatever notes the

1747
01:08:23,281 --> 01:08:24,849
field MAY have and this is one

1748
01:08:24,849 --> 01:08:27,840
of the things that we want to

1749
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:27,452
make sure we educate the public

1750
01:08:27,452 --> 01:08:29,353
on.

1751
01:08:29,353 --> 01:08:31,623
this is not something that's

1752
01:08:31,623 --> 01:08:34,158
happening right away because our

1753
01:08:34,158 --> 01:08:36,928
analysts have to go through

1754
01:08:36,928 --> 01:08:37,962
reports and listen to these

1755
01:08:37,962 --> 01:08:39,898
sounds, and if any additional

1756
01:08:39,898 --> 01:08:42,700
information comes back from our

1757
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:44,680
casings to be able to connect to

1758
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,737
another case then there being

1759
01:08:46,737 --> 01:08:48,305
able to connect that particular

1760
01:08:48,305 --> 01:08:49,730
casing or incident back to

1761
01:08:49,730 --> 01:08:50,975
another case.

1762
01:08:50,975 --> 01:08:53,311
>> chief I understand that if

1763
01:08:53,311 --> 01:08:56,614
you find casings you can do that

1764
01:08:56,614 --> 01:08:59,614
but I'm saying of the 246

1765
01:09:00,385 --> 01:09:03,385
examples, what window of this?

1766
01:09:03,555 --> 01:09:04,556
JANUARY to this day?

1767
01:09:04,556 --> 01:09:06,556
>> correct.

1768
01:09:09,861 --> 01:09:10,228
>> how many of those have been

1769
01:09:10,228 --> 01:09:12,228
reviewed?

1770
01:09:16,367 --> 01:09:16,735
>> as you'll see they are being

1771
01:09:16,735 --> 01:09:17,702
reviewed.

1772
01:09:17,702 --> 01:09:19,971
>> so someone has listened to

1773
01:09:19,971 --> 01:09:22,773
all of those recordings and you

1774
01:09:22,773 --> 01:09:24,175
are still unable to categorize

1775
01:09:24,175 --> 01:09:27,175
them when listening to them?

1776
01:09:28,746 --> 01:09:31,650
>> it's not about listening but

1777
01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:33,852
whether or not we recovered

1778
01:09:33,852 --> 01:09:35,420
witnesses or casings or

1779
01:09:35,420 --> 01:09:36,921
something that we can come up to

1780
01:09:36,921 --> 01:09:39,223
tie that particular incident.

1781
01:09:39,223 --> 01:09:42,600
>> you were there when the

1782
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,229
wilson center talked to us about

1783
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:48,100
why they were not able to give

1784
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:49,234
us as good a feedback as

1785
01:09:49,234 --> 01:09:52,834
charlotte and durham and one of

1786
01:09:54,506 --> 01:09:56,400
the reasons was the spotty way

1787
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,109
we collect data and the reason

1788
01:09:58,109 --> 01:10:01,109
I'm concerned about the blanks

1789
01:10:01,947 --> 01:10:04,849
is we're not actually asking the

1790
01:10:04,849 --> 01:10:07,852
questions to give I believe a

1791
01:10:07,852 --> 01:10:09,587
transparent and thorough program

1792
01:10:09,587 --> 01:10:11,723
to what this does and does not

1793
01:10:11,723 --> 01:10:13,391
do because I know it will be a

1794
01:10:13,391 --> 01:10:15,560
chief to say only the good

1795
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:15,927
things but I really need

1796
01:10:15,927 --> 01:10:17,428
somebody.

1797
01:10:17,428 --> 01:10:19,198
Maybe the city manager or

1798
01:10:19,198 --> 01:10:20,465
somebody else to tell us what

1799
01:10:20,465 --> 01:10:22,434
are the pros and the cons

1800
01:10:22,434 --> 01:10:22,534
because if you can't be I guess

1801
01:10:22,534 --> 01:10:24,534
-

1802
01:10:24,569 --> 01:10:27,439
fair in your assessment to say

1803
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,241
these are times when the shot

1804
01:10:30,241 --> 01:10:32,177
spotter showed it was a power

1805
01:10:32,177 --> 01:10:35,180
tool or this was a time when the

1806
01:10:35,180 --> 01:10:36,982
shot spotter showed another loud

1807
01:10:36,982 --> 01:10:38,550
noise because I've heard that

1808
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:40,986
from members of the team but I

1809
01:10:40,986 --> 01:10:42,554
never hear it in public when

1810
01:10:42,554 --> 01:10:44,723
it's time to be a countable to

1811
01:10:44,723 --> 01:10:47,259
the citizens that want to know

1812
01:10:47,259 --> 01:10:49,394
the good, bad and ugly with

1813
01:10:49,394 --> 01:10:50,696
money that we're spending when

1814
01:10:50,696 --> 01:10:52,696
you said homicides.

1815
01:10:53,899 --> 01:10:56,299
It's known people, domestic

1816
01:10:56,835 --> 01:10:58,403
situations and the things police

1817
01:10:58,403 --> 01:11:00,238
will never be able to do

1818
01:11:00,238 --> 01:11:02,308
anything about but if we start

1819
01:11:02,308 --> 01:11:03,742
to help these people we

1820
01:11:03,742 --> 01:11:05,311
eliminate those kinds of

1821
01:11:05,311 --> 01:11:07,880
conflict but you are aying no

1822
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,280
we need the money for the

1823
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,280
microphones.

1824
01:11:10,349 --> 01:11:10,648
Tell us good and the bad and the

1825
01:11:10,648 --> 01:11:12,648
ugly.

1826
01:11:13,252 --> 01:11:15,520
All 246 of those you heard and

1827
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,900
confirm they are indeed gunshot?

1828
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:18,457
>> no they are still being

1829
01:11:18,457 --> 01:11:19,925
reviewed.

1830
01:11:19,925 --> 01:11:22,270
>> so when you pick out one you

1831
01:11:22,270 --> 01:11:24,162
give the impression that's how

1832
01:11:24,162 --> 01:11:25,598
it happened all 246 times and

1833
01:11:25,598 --> 01:11:27,598
that's not honest.

1834
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,200
>> what we're talking about is

1835
01:11:31,604 --> 01:11:32,571
that specific incident but if

1836
01:11:32,571 --> 01:11:34,740
you look at the MISS

1837
01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:37,140
Classification by type we're

1838
01:11:37,709 --> 01:11:40,709
showing you there's a false

1839
01:11:40,947 --> 01:11:41,413
positive or three MISS Located

1840
01:11:41,413 --> 01:11:41,947
shots, as well.

1841
01:11:41,947 --> 01:11:43,947
>> what were those?

1842
01:11:45,118 --> 01:11:46,552
>> I can tell you in terms of if

1843
01:11:46,552 --> 01:11:47,786
it's a alse positive it was not

1844
01:11:47,786 --> 01:11:49,188
a gunshot?

1845
01:11:49,188 --> 01:11:51,156
>> what was it then?

1846
01:11:51,156 --> 01:11:52,724
>> I couldn't tell you what it

1847
01:11:52,724 --> 01:11:53,792
is but I can tell you with us

1848
01:11:53,792 --> 01:11:55,761
anoint gunshot.

1849
01:11:55,761 --> 01:11:58,164
>> when you ant to gragg about

1850
01:11:58,164 --> 01:12:00,766
the one time that it sounds

1851
01:12:00,766 --> 01:12:03,200
dramatic and avoid showing us a

1852
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,670
power tool that might sound

1853
01:12:04,670 --> 01:12:07,730
similar so you can imagine the

1854
01:12:07,730 --> 01:12:09,308
question marks other cities have

1855
01:12:09,308 --> 01:12:10,443
come to saying are we getting

1856
01:12:10,443 --> 01:12:12,843
what we pay for?

1857
01:12:13,278 --> 01:12:14,647
We have independent people

1858
01:12:14,647 --> 01:12:17,490
without skin in the game that

1859
01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:20,649
want to paint things in a

1860
01:12:21,540 --> 01:12:22,956
particular light.

1861
01:12:22,956 --> 01:12:24,323
They say 23 percent of the time

1862
01:12:24,323 --> 01:12:25,991
and then you come back and say

1863
01:12:25,991 --> 01:12:27,994
it is 99 percent of the time

1864
01:12:27,994 --> 01:12:29,829
when I think of who's going to

1865
01:12:29,829 --> 01:12:32,498
be honest about t is's going to

1866
01:12:32,498 --> 01:12:34,898
be the independent evaluators

1867
01:12:35,535 --> 01:12:38,535
without skin in the game.

1868
01:12:40,272 --> 01:12:42,141
>> COUNCILMAN Let's keep this in

1869
01:12:42,141 --> 01:12:43,476
an in quiztive way and not

1870
01:12:43,476 --> 01:12:45,876
accuse or the way.

1871
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:51,647
>> a little bit where I differ,

1872
01:12:55,222 --> 01:12:57,390
chief, I'm happy out of what

1873
01:12:57,390 --> 01:12:59,390
ever the number.

1874
01:13:00,893 --> 01:13:02,893
But the 246?

1875
01:13:03,997 --> 01:13:08,197
Out of the 246, as I have stated

1876
01:13:11,771 --> 01:13:13,406
from the very beginning of using

1877
01:13:13,406 --> 01:13:16,406
every helpful tool in our

1878
01:13:16,409 --> 01:13:18,311
arsenal to support the fight

1879
01:13:18,311 --> 01:13:18,678
against crime and these

1880
01:13:18,678 --> 01:13:19,579
shootings.

1881
01:13:19,579 --> 01:13:20,746
And whatever this was.

1882
01:13:20,746 --> 01:13:23,146
I'm proud of that.

1883
01:13:26,486 --> 01:13:29,486
I'm roud of the one.

1884
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,694
I who know it's more but this

1885
01:13:34,694 --> 01:13:36,262
particular incident on southern

1886
01:13:36,262 --> 01:13:38,932
avenue there were some shells,

1887
01:13:38,932 --> 01:13:41,201
and if it wasn't for shot

1888
01:13:41,201 --> 01:13:44,201
spotter you said that there

1889
01:13:45,380 --> 01:13:47,730
where you say no assistance of a

1890
01:13:47,730 --> 01:13:49,676
911 call with this, so I do

1891
01:13:49,676 --> 01:13:52,676
support that and I'm thankful

1892
01:13:55,749 --> 01:13:57,749
for that.

1893
01:13:58,685 --> 01:14:00,788
If we can help shut down one I'm

1894
01:14:00,788 --> 01:14:03,357
thankful to have that tool.

1895
01:14:03,357 --> 01:14:05,592
Now my question also because you

1896
01:14:05,592 --> 01:14:07,260
said if there are shells and

1897
01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:08,295
thing as long that line

1898
01:14:08,295 --> 01:14:10,695
especially with this particular

1899
01:14:10,797 --> 01:14:13,167
case that you found some shells,

1900
01:14:13,167 --> 01:14:16,690
do you all also and this is

1901
01:14:16,690 --> 01:14:17,504
probably a little crazy

1902
01:14:17,504 --> 01:14:21,104
question, but do ou also look

1903
01:14:21,107 --> 01:14:23,176
for fingerprints on those?

1904
01:14:23,176 --> 01:14:24,812
>> they will do a full analysis

1905
01:14:24,812 --> 01:14:27,470
of everything that they can go

1906
01:14:27,470 --> 01:14:28,816
ahead and recover from any shell

1907
01:14:28,816 --> 01:14:31,216
casings that they recover.

1908
01:14:31,385 --> 01:14:33,553
>> so that's nother part of a

1909
01:14:33,553 --> 01:14:37,124
help with the shot spotter for

1910
01:14:37,124 --> 01:14:40,940
this arsenal in the tool box.

1911
01:14:40,940 --> 01:14:44,294
Not only can we get the shells

1912
01:14:44,831 --> 01:14:45,265
but we can also get any possible

1913
01:14:45,265 --> 01:14:46,566
fingerprints.

1914
01:14:46,566 --> 01:14:47,701
>> that's correct.

1915
01:14:47,701 --> 01:14:49,701
>> council member thompson?

1916
01:14:50,537 --> 01:14:51,338
>> thank you MR. Mayor and thank

1917
01:14:51,338 --> 01:14:53,338
you chief.

1918
01:14:54,675 --> 01:14:56,844
I just want to regurgitate

1919
01:14:56,844 --> 01:14:58,645
something I heard chief braeyden

1920
01:14:58,645 --> 01:15:01,150
speaking of while he was the

1921
01:15:01,150 --> 01:15:02,216
chief and I'm glad to see him in

1922
01:15:02,216 --> 01:15:04,584
the back row back there.

1923
01:15:04,584 --> 01:15:06,119
He was trained on what a gunshot

1924
01:15:06,119 --> 01:15:07,688
sounds like and I know that all

1925
01:15:07,688 --> 01:15:09,823
of your officers are trained

1926
01:15:09,823 --> 01:15:12,760
because they hear it all the

1927
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,794
time so I know they know the

1928
01:15:13,794 --> 01:15:16,194
difference between what a

1929
01:15:16,464 --> 01:15:18,932
gunshot and a power drill is so

1930
01:15:18,932 --> 01:15:20,968
I'm thankful for the work that

1931
01:15:20,968 --> 01:15:23,470
they've done and the comment

1932
01:15:23,470 --> 01:15:26,207
made about shady work I trust

1933
01:15:26,207 --> 01:15:27,408
and believe that our officers

1934
01:15:27,408 --> 01:15:29,408
are doing everything.

1935
01:15:30,978 --> 01:15:32,546
>> the term was shotty.

1936
01:15:32,546 --> 01:15:33,447
>> whatever the determination

1937
01:15:33,447 --> 01:15:35,447
you used.

1938
01:15:36,784 --> 01:15:40,154
I know our officers are truthful

1939
01:15:40,154 --> 01:15:41,923
and faithful and obligated to

1940
01:15:41,923 --> 01:15:43,923
protect the citizens.

1941
01:15:44,592 --> 01:15:46,992
>> don't MISS Quote me.

1942
01:15:47,195 --> 01:15:49,596
>> you can press your button the

1943
01:15:49,596 --> 01:15:50,231
you want to.

1944
01:15:50,231 --> 01:15:51,766
Sorry.

1945
01:15:51,766 --> 01:15:52,266
COUNCILMAN Benavente it's not

1946
01:15:52,266 --> 01:15:54,266
your turn.

1947
01:15:54,402 --> 01:15:55,837
I'll come back to you.

1948
01:15:55,837 --> 01:15:56,837
I said t was council member

1949
01:15:56,837 --> 01:15:59,837
thompson and myself and then

1950
01:16:00,775 --> 01:16:01,709
press your button.

1951
01:16:01,709 --> 01:16:03,709
chief, thank you.

1952
01:16:03,944 --> 01:16:05,146
>> thank you for that.

1953
01:16:05,146 --> 01:16:07,348
What I'll say is this.

1954
01:16:07,348 --> 01:16:08,216
There's two things you

1955
01:16:08,216 --> 01:16:10,216
mentioned.

1956
01:16:12,220 --> 01:16:14,589
One I know the gifts started off

1957
01:16:14,589 --> 01:16:16,590
tough for us and I think during

1958
01:16:16,590 --> 01:16:17,959
your first quarter presentation

1959
01:16:17,959 --> 01:16:19,861
I was looking for it when you

1960
01:16:19,861 --> 01:16:22,261
did the year-to-year comparison

1961
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:24,465
it was like 300 plus, percent so

1962
01:16:24,465 --> 01:16:26,670
it's declined significantly.

1963
01:16:26,670 --> 01:16:28,168
Do you remember what we were at

1964
01:16:28,168 --> 01:16:30,571
the second quarter or like out

1965
01:16:30,571 --> 01:16:33,742
of those 32, how many came the

1966
01:16:33,742 --> 01:16:37,342
first three or four months, do

1967
01:16:37,846 --> 01:16:39,846
you know?

1968
01:16:40,581 --> 01:16:41,182
>> I know it was a lt.

1969
01:16:41,182 --> 01:16:43,182
You're right.

1970
01:16:43,217 --> 01:16:45,217
Over 300 percent.

1971
01:16:46,988 --> 01:16:47,655
>> so it's got a pretty sharp

1972
01:16:47,655 --> 01:16:49,655
decline.

1973
01:16:50,725 --> 01:16:52,427
It was like 25 the first three

1974
01:16:52,427 --> 01:16:54,427
or four month?

1975
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:57,430
>> 366 was the percentage.

1976
01:16:58,330 --> 01:16:59,634
At the time in terms of the

1977
01:16:59,634 --> 01:17:01,360
comparison from 25 to 24.

1978
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,871
>> so it's decreased

1979
01:17:02,871 --> 01:17:05,573
significantly for it to be 60

1980
01:17:05,573 --> 01:17:06,874
percent and that's just a

1981
01:17:06,874 --> 01:17:07,175
comparison to this time last

1982
01:17:07,175 --> 01:17:09,430
year?

1983
01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:10,745
>> that's correct.

1984
01:17:10,745 --> 01:17:13,415
>>, so I wanted to highlight

1985
01:17:13,415 --> 01:17:15,817
that because at some point the

1986
01:17:15,817 --> 01:17:17,552
community took an assistance

1987
01:17:17,552 --> 01:17:19,721
around APRIL or MAY when it was

1988
01:17:19,721 --> 01:17:22,223
a ighlighted discussion and we

1989
01:17:22,223 --> 01:17:23,558
can see that there has been a

1990
01:17:23,558 --> 01:17:26,270
significant decrease so I'd ike

1991
01:17:26,270 --> 01:17:30,310
to see that maybe on some other

1992
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:32,100
chart that trends t by month to

1993
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:33,702
show if there was a precipitous

1994
01:17:33,702 --> 01:17:35,170
drop in it.

1995
01:17:35,170 --> 01:17:37,772
Other part I want to highlight

1996
01:17:37,772 --> 01:17:41,372
is I don't know about everybody

1997
01:17:42,377 --> 01:17:45,780
but to me, when you hear 18

1998
01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:47,983
shots or so, you know I grew up

1999
01:17:47,983 --> 01:17:49,918
in a neighborhood where you hear

2000
01:17:49,918 --> 01:17:52,918
that and sometimes they don't

2001
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,880
call 911 every time.

2002
01:17:58,660 --> 01:17:59,828
14 guns to be recovered that

2003
01:17:59,828 --> 01:18:01,296
from one district.

2004
01:18:01,296 --> 01:18:04,296
>> that's across all of them.

2005
01:18:04,333 --> 01:18:06,434
>> for this quarterly from

2006
01:18:06,434 --> 01:18:07,736
JANUARY to SEPTEMBER?

2007
01:18:07,736 --> 01:18:09,736
>> correct.

2008
01:18:11,390 --> 01:18:14,390
>> and nine arrests made in

2009
01:18:14,409 --> 01:18:15,510
somehow connection to that?

2010
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:17,510
>> correct.

2011
01:18:17,980 --> 01:18:18,280
>> I don't know how that's a bad

2012
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,280
thing.

2013
01:18:20,315 --> 01:18:22,751
14 more guns are off the street.

2014
01:18:22,751 --> 01:18:25,870
The speed in where the shots

2015
01:18:25,870 --> 01:18:26,755
came out did that seem like a

2016
01:18:26,755 --> 01:18:28,755
regular semiautomatic.

2017
01:18:29,725 --> 01:18:32,125
>> that was rapid fire.

2018
01:18:32,561 --> 01:18:34,561
I wouldn't say

2019
01:18:35,970 --> 01:18:37,970
casey my automatic.

2020
01:18:37,733 --> 01:18:40,436
>> if you have shell casings and

2021
01:18:40,436 --> 01:18:42,671
at some point you are matching

2022
01:18:42,671 --> 01:18:45,730
these things to other incidents

2023
01:18:45,730 --> 01:18:48,430
and you make arrests what would

2024
01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:50,947
be helpful is if that place

2025
01:18:50,947 --> 01:18:53,415
holder was not called blank to

2026
01:18:53,415 --> 01:18:55,815
leave open to interpretation

2027
01:18:56,152 --> 01:18:58,354
blanks or some unknown that

2028
01:18:58,354 --> 01:18:58,788
maybe could rename that pending

2029
01:18:58,788 --> 01:19:00,788
investigation.

2030
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:02,925
>> we're working right now ith

2031
01:19:02,925 --> 01:19:05,925
members of the senior leadership

2032
01:19:06,610 --> 01:19:07,963
team to develop a better

2033
01:19:07,963 --> 01:19:09,999
category so that won't be there

2034
01:19:09,999 --> 01:19:12,868
so we're going to do that and

2035
01:19:12,868 --> 01:19:14,870
have that ready next quarter.

2036
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:17,506
>> right and the final thing

2037
01:19:17,506 --> 01:19:18,641
I'll say before I go to council

2038
01:19:18,641 --> 01:19:20,576
member benavente I'm sure the

2039
01:19:20,576 --> 01:19:22,576
residents appreciated you

2040
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,348
showing up after they heard that

2041
01:19:25,348 --> 01:19:27,917
and whether it leads to

2042
01:19:27,917 --> 01:19:29,618
something today or tomorrow, I

2043
01:19:29,618 --> 01:19:32,321
don't think this is a bad thing

2044
01:19:32,321 --> 01:19:33,789
for you to have an extra tool to

2045
01:19:33,789 --> 01:19:37,626
put you n the right path to

2046
01:19:37,626 --> 01:19:40,730
show up and to respond, so I'm

2047
01:19:40,730 --> 01:19:42,198
glad to hear you say that and

2048
01:19:42,198 --> 01:19:43,699
look forward to hear more about

2049
01:19:43,699 --> 01:19:46,200
it as we analyze the data and

2050
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:46,502
everything so I'll go to council

2051
01:19:46,502 --> 01:19:48,337
member benavente.

2052
01:19:48,337 --> 01:19:48,671
>> do have a question to

2053
01:19:48,671 --> 01:19:50,440
clarify.

2054
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:55,440
But I wanted to make sure that I

2055
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:55,611
wasn't being misquoted by MR.

2056
01:19:55,611 --> 01:19:57,611
Thompson.

2057
01:19:58,648 --> 01:20:00,683
We had an independent evaluator

2058
01:20:00,683 --> 01:20:02,318
say that the city of

2059
01:20:02,318 --> 01:20:04,119
fayetteville was not bringing

2060
01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:07,119
data that other cities were

2061
01:20:07,957 --> 01:20:10,260
keeping and I used the term

2062
01:20:10,260 --> 01:20:12,395
shotty to describe our lack of

2063
01:20:12,395 --> 01:20:14,230
data keeping in line with our

2064
01:20:14,230 --> 01:20:16,566
peer cities so you can be

2065
01:20:16,566 --> 01:20:17,733
offended by that if you like but

2066
01:20:17,733 --> 01:20:19,568
that's a simple fact that you

2067
01:20:19,568 --> 01:20:21,568
have to accept.

2068
01:20:21,704 --> 01:20:24,704
City attorney you provided me

2069
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:27,777
with arrest reports related to

2070
01:20:27,777 --> 01:20:30,177
incidents around shot spotter.

2071
01:20:30,713 --> 01:20:32,382
I'm counting more than four

2072
01:20:32,382 --> 01:20:34,951
people hat were unarmed so when

2073
01:20:34,951 --> 01:20:37,520
the chief-of-police ays out of

2074
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,623
the 14, 13 were gun related, how

2075
01:20:39,623 --> 01:20:41,825
is that possible if I'm counting

2076
01:20:41,825 --> 01:20:44,660
at least five that were unarmed

2077
01:20:44,660 --> 01:20:45,862
people that had warrants but no

2078
01:20:45,862 --> 01:20:48,265
firearms on their person when

2079
01:20:48,265 --> 01:20:49,932
they were arrested with the shot

2080
01:20:49,932 --> 01:20:51,835
spotter incident.

2081
01:20:51,835 --> 01:20:52,769
>> that data came from the

2082
01:20:52,769 --> 01:20:54,300
police department.

2083
01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:54,938
>> okay.

2084
01:20:54,938 --> 01:20:56,500
So chief?

2085
01:20:56,500 --> 01:20:58,141
I don't know f you can get

2086
01:20:58,141 --> 01:20:59,342
something on a slide so we'll

2087
01:20:59,342 --> 01:21:01,444
have an official record.

2088
01:21:01,444 --> 01:21:04,514
I know that you are saying 13

2089
01:21:04,514 --> 01:21:07,917
out of 14 were gun related but

2090
01:21:07,917 --> 01:21:10,917
an incident on old wilmington

2091
01:21:11,321 --> 01:21:12,956
road says he was unarmed.

2092
01:21:12,956 --> 01:21:14,657
They were unarmed.

2093
01:21:14,657 --> 01:21:16,760
That on chesapeake road there

2094
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,929
was another individual that was

2095
01:21:18,929 --> 01:21:21,297
unarmed who was arrested.

2096
01:21:21,297 --> 01:21:22,899
I'm counting again more than

2097
01:21:22,899 --> 01:21:25,680
just how many did you say were

2098
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,680
not firearm related?

2099
01:21:27,837 --> 01:21:30,237
>> we have 14 subjects arrested

2100
01:21:30,407 --> 01:21:30,740
and 13 out of 14 was with a

2101
01:21:30,740 --> 01:21:31,274
weapon.

2102
01:21:31,274 --> 01:21:33,274
>> okay.

2103
01:21:33,844 --> 01:21:35,612
So I'll send you what the city

2104
01:21:35,612 --> 01:21:36,346
attorney sent me so you can look

2105
01:21:36,346 --> 01:21:38,346
over it.

2106
01:21:38,548 --> 01:21:41,284
This is why wanted a slide

2107
01:21:41,284 --> 01:21:42,619
included because I think we lose

2108
01:21:42,619 --> 01:21:44,587
something in translation here

2109
01:21:44,587 --> 01:21:46,550
and I want us to be accurate

2110
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:47,391
because I'm surprised by that

2111
01:21:47,391 --> 01:21:49,926
number and I don't believe

2112
01:21:49,926 --> 01:21:52,620
that's accurate and for us to

2113
01:21:52,620 --> 01:21:55,662
say out loud that 13 out of 14

2114
01:21:55,966 --> 01:21:58,401
of the guns happened, it sounds

2115
01:21:58,401 --> 01:22:00,670
like the one from the recording

2116
01:22:00,670 --> 01:22:02,139
you didn't get those folks yet.

2117
01:22:02,139 --> 01:22:03,373
Is there more?

2118
01:22:03,373 --> 01:22:04,508
>> there's many more.

2119
01:22:04,508 --> 01:22:06,508
That's the thing.

2120
01:22:07,177 --> 01:22:09,112
It is a long process and it's

2121
01:22:09,112 --> 01:22:10,581
not one of those situation

2122
01:22:10,581 --> 01:22:13,581
where's, because some of the

2123
01:22:14,180 --> 01:22:16,754
alerts there's not any tres of

2124
01:22:16,754 --> 01:22:19,156
evidence, so therefore, until we

2125
01:22:19,156 --> 01:22:21,625
are able to work through each

2126
01:22:21,625 --> 01:22:24,394
piece, you know we MAY get later

2127
01:22:24,394 --> 01:22:25,663
on a video camera or someone

2128
01:22:25,663 --> 01:22:27,798
providing information that will

2129
01:22:27,798 --> 01:22:28,131
lead us to that car that sped

2130
01:22:28,131 --> 01:22:30,131
off.

2131
01:22:31,235 --> 01:22:32,636
That tag and then we're able to

2132
01:22:32,636 --> 01:22:33,303
identify those individual, so it

2133
01:22:33,303 --> 01:22:35,303
takes a while.

2134
01:22:36,974 --> 01:22:39,409
>> that's why cities who have

2135
01:22:39,409 --> 01:22:41,112
implemented this program

2136
01:22:41,112 --> 01:22:42,813
responsibly will keep hat data

2137
01:22:42,813 --> 01:22:44,748
for the folks in he white

2138
01:22:44,748 --> 01:22:47,384
shirts to review but they don't

2139
01:22:47,384 --> 01:22:49,587
put it in the vehicle so there's

2140
01:22:49,587 --> 01:22:51,587
unintended consequence of

2141
01:22:51,722 --> 01:22:53,758
officers oing into a situation

2142
01:22:53,758 --> 01:22:55,693
hot because we have someone that

2143
01:22:55,693 --> 01:22:57,461
lost their life while in custody

2144
01:22:57,461 --> 01:23:00,831
the first day we turned on shot

2145
01:23:00,831 --> 01:23:03,231
spotter and something we

2146
01:23:03,501 --> 01:23:03,801
conveniently refuse to talking

2147
01:23:03,801 --> 01:23:05,801
about.

2148
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:09,390
At some point we have to be more

2149
01:23:09,390 --> 01:23:10,808
honest about this technology and

2150
01:23:10,808 --> 01:23:13,770
be not just cheerleaders without

2151
01:23:13,770 --> 01:23:15,513
any deference of what community

2152
01:23:15,513 --> 01:23:17,681
members have shared with us.

2153
01:23:17,681 --> 01:23:19,216
One thing I guess we're not

2154
01:23:19,216 --> 01:23:22,816
hearing it on NOVEMBER first is

2155
01:23:23,540 --> 01:23:24,855
that there are citizens in these

2156
01:23:24,855 --> 01:23:27,691
areas that don't want shot

2157
01:23:27,691 --> 01:23:30,910
spotter and there's legitimate

2158
01:23:30,461 --> 01:23:33,231
reasons why but nobody on this

2159
01:23:33,231 --> 01:23:36,700
council will give people a voice

2160
01:23:36,700 --> 01:23:40,300
because they are stuck on the

2161
01:23:42,740 --> 01:23:44,642
cop propaganda the boot licking.

2162
01:23:44,642 --> 01:23:45,543
>> I'd like to make a motion to

2163
01:23:45,543 --> 01:23:47,244
receive the report.

2164
01:23:47,244 --> 01:23:47,511
>> I think we have more to get

2165
01:23:47,511 --> 01:23:49,511
to.

2166
01:23:51,115 --> 01:23:52,116
Is the manager's button pushd?

2167
01:23:52,116 --> 01:23:54,116
Yes ma'am?

2168
01:23:58,323 --> 01:24:00,324
>> if I MAY add steph heard the

2169
01:24:00,324 --> 01:24:03,940
comments from council after this

2170
01:24:03,940 --> 01:24:04,829
study the rsults were published

2171
01:24:04,829 --> 01:24:07,829
and chief bryant did mention

2172
01:24:08,966 --> 01:24:11,366
that we have a

2173
01:24:12,504 --> 01:24:14,504
ssembled a working

2174
01:24:16,908 --> 01:24:19,143
group and we are working to

2175
01:24:19,143 --> 01:24:22,180
close hose gaps in our data and

2176
01:24:22,180 --> 01:24:24,549
working to try to come up with a

2177
01:24:24,549 --> 01:24:26,584
better and more consistent

2178
01:24:26,584 --> 01:24:28,520
framework that tracks the

2179
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,855
performance of shot spotter and

2180
01:24:30,855 --> 01:24:33,124
the impacts of the community on

2181
01:24:33,124 --> 01:24:34,959
our investigations and how that

2182
01:24:34,959 --> 01:24:36,394
data affects our community so we

2183
01:24:36,394 --> 01:24:36,661
hear you and we're working on

2184
01:24:36,661 --> 01:24:38,661
it.

2185
01:24:39,664 --> 01:24:42,664
>> thank you for that update.

2186
01:24:44,770 --> 01:24:45,470
I'll come back to you COUNCILMAN

2187
01:24:45,470 --> 01:24:47,470
Council member mcnair.

2188
01:24:47,772 --> 01:24:48,140
>> I'll try to get through

2189
01:24:48,140 --> 01:24:49,941
these.

2190
01:24:49,941 --> 01:24:51,210
This is collaboration with our

2191
01:24:51,210 --> 01:24:52,744
federal partners and the results

2192
01:24:52,744 --> 01:24:54,779
of these working with our

2193
01:24:54,779 --> 01:24:57,382
federal partners here you will

2194
01:24:57,382 --> 01:24:59,150
see the amount of federally

2195
01:24:59,150 --> 01:25:01,550
indicted individuals that have

2196
01:25:02,220 --> 01:25:05,220
been arrested and seizures, as

2197
01:25:08,260 --> 01:25:11,260
well as firearms and currency

2198
01:25:11,763 --> 01:25:13,763
ceased.

2199
01:25:14,666 --> 01:25:17,535
At this time you'll see the

2200
01:25:17,535 --> 01:25:18,603
numbers regarding our group a

2201
01:25:18,603 --> 01:25:20,305
crimes in terms of the

2202
01:25:20,305 --> 01:25:22,641
percentage and again you'll see

2203
01:25:22,641 --> 01:25:26,241
the numbers are all down except

2204
01:25:26,678 --> 01:25:30,278
for robbery whether which is up

2205
01:25:30,315 --> 01:25:31,617
1.2 percent but we're almost

2206
01:25:31,617 --> 01:25:33,651
double-digit on all the

2207
01:25:33,651 --> 01:25:34,719
categories in terms of our

2208
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:36,719
property crimes.

2209
01:25:37,289 --> 01:25:39,624
Here we have our numbers

2210
01:25:39,624 --> 01:25:42,240
regarding our juveniles from

2211
01:25:42,127 --> 01:25:44,527
JANUARY through SEPTEMBER 25th.

2212
01:25:44,630 --> 01:25:46,598
One of the questions that also

2213
01:25:46,598 --> 01:25:49,635
what we were trying to do is

2214
01:25:49,635 --> 01:25:51,871
provide some insight in total

2215
01:25:51,871 --> 01:25:54,271
incident charges from 24 to 25

2216
01:25:56,208 --> 01:25:59,208
and we're up about almost 17%

2217
01:26:00,780 --> 01:26:03,615
reflective on this slide here.

2218
01:26:03,615 --> 01:26:06,284
The most pressing issue that we

2219
01:26:06,284 --> 01:26:08,487
see here right now is the

2220
01:26:08,487 --> 01:26:11,487
robbery where it has almost

2221
01:26:11,991 --> 01:26:15,591
doubled in terms of from 24 to

2222
01:26:16,728 --> 01:26:18,898
25 with increase of 106 percent.

2223
01:26:18,898 --> 01:26:22,498
So we're tackling that's a much

2224
01:26:22,801 --> 01:26:25,704
as we can in terms of those

2225
01:26:25,704 --> 01:26:28,104
involved in the juveniles.

2226
01:26:28,874 --> 01:26:32,474
Next here you'll see by quarter

2227
01:26:32,978 --> 01:26:35,978
the field contacts and incident

2228
01:26:39,819 --> 01:26:42,219
reports that we've had.

2229
01:26:43,589 --> 01:26:45,525
Again assaults is high in the

2230
01:26:45,525 --> 01:26:49,125
numbers in terms of what we're

2231
01:26:50,196 --> 01:26:53,650
looking at across the board.

2232
01:26:53,650 --> 01:26:55,465
Lastly these are slides

2233
01:26:56,535 --> 01:26:58,204
pertaining to the juvenile

2234
01:26:58,204 --> 01:27:00,204
protective order.

2235
01:27:00,939 --> 01:27:01,306
Here it goes from 11:00 P.M. To

2236
01:27:01,306 --> 01:27:03,306
6:00 P.M..

2237
01:27:04,900 --> 01:27:05,811
The field contacts and incident

2238
01:27:05,811 --> 01:27:08,140
reports associated with these

2239
01:27:08,140 --> 01:27:10,414
and the total charges.

2240
01:27:10,682 --> 01:27:14,282
>> can I ask a question about

2241
01:27:20,492 --> 01:27:20,793
the slide?

2242
01:27:20,793 --> 01:27:22,793
Haire?

2243
01:27:22,962 --> 01:27:24,962
>> thank you mayor.

2244
01:27:25,265 --> 01:27:26,432
It was of so much on these

2245
01:27:26,432 --> 01:27:28,340
particular slide, so if this is

2246
01:27:28,340 --> 01:27:31,271
not the time let me know and

2247
01:27:31,271 --> 01:27:33,671
I'll get it later.

2248
01:27:35,742 --> 01:27:38,144
During our F.Y. 25 budget we

2249
01:27:38,144 --> 01:27:40,880
discussed some things that we

2250
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,880
were looking for.

2251
01:27:45,418 --> 01:27:47,987
there was a request for more

2252
01:27:47,987 --> 01:27:49,889
speed centuries, our cameras

2253
01:27:49,889 --> 01:27:52,391
that we're were looking at and

2254
01:27:52,391 --> 01:27:53,693
other forms of technology but

2255
01:27:53,693 --> 01:27:55,495
especially those too because

2256
01:27:55,495 --> 01:27:57,930
that's something I speak about a

2257
01:27:57,930 --> 01:27:58,297
lot during my community

2258
01:27:58,297 --> 01:28:00,297
meetings.

2259
01:28:00,566 --> 01:28:01,935
I did receive a message that I

2260
01:28:01,935 --> 01:28:05,535
don't know if they said the

2261
01:28:05,872 --> 01:28:08,872
speed centuries were in or

2262
01:28:08,908 --> 01:28:09,208
close, I won't even try to say

2263
01:28:09,208 --> 01:28:11,208
this.

2264
01:28:11,911 --> 01:28:15,815
If you would, could you give us

2265
01:28:15,815 --> 01:28:18,118
if this is the time on where we

2266
01:28:18,118 --> 01:28:21,210
stand with the speed century and

2267
01:28:21,210 --> 01:28:23,223
our new camera technology that

2268
01:28:23,223 --> 01:28:24,570
we were asking for?

2269
01:28:24,570 --> 01:28:25,691
>> yes.

2270
01:28:25,691 --> 01:28:27,691
Yes, sir.

2271
01:28:27,727 --> 01:28:29,429
Sorry, I can provide some of

2272
01:28:29,429 --> 01:28:31,829
that information in terms.

2273
01:28:31,898 --> 01:28:33,100
We're going in a phased process

2274
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:34,767
in terms of technology.

2275
01:28:34,767 --> 01:28:36,669
Right now one of the first

2276
01:28:36,669 --> 01:28:37,804
priorities is upgrading our

2277
01:28:37,804 --> 01:28:40,740
server room which has taken

2278
01:28:40,740 --> 01:28:43,810
place and now we're in the

2279
01:28:43,810 --> 01:28:46,460
process of obtaining several

2280
01:28:46,460 --> 01:28:48,460
software whether artificial

2281
01:28:48,648 --> 01:28:51,318
intelligence but also we have

2282
01:28:51,318 --> 01:28:53,486
looked into the energy tries

2283
01:28:53,486 --> 01:28:55,122
with entries based on requests

2284
01:28:55,122 --> 01:28:56,623
from city council members

2285
01:28:56,623 --> 01:28:58,324
throughout the city but we're

2286
01:28:58,324 --> 01:29:00,930
also obtaining more and we're

2287
01:29:00,930 --> 01:29:02,896
going to get some more for the

2288
01:29:02,896 --> 01:29:05,980
school zones in terms of being

2289
01:29:05,980 --> 01:29:06,666
able to have those deployable

2290
01:29:06,666 --> 01:29:07,000
all throughout the school zones,

2291
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,602
as well.

2292
01:29:08,602 --> 01:29:11,602
>> and thank you for that

2293
01:29:11,972 --> 01:29:14,441
because I did get some

2294
01:29:14,441 --> 01:29:16,643
deployments out in the summer

2295
01:29:16,643 --> 01:29:18,110
hill community but I was talking

2296
01:29:18,110 --> 01:29:19,679
about the additional ones and

2297
01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:22,790
we're not there yet.

2298
01:29:22,182 --> 01:29:23,951
>> we're not there yet.

2299
01:29:23,951 --> 01:29:27,551
We have received the quotes but

2300
01:29:27,855 --> 01:29:28,922
we have not pushed the button to

2301
01:29:28,922 --> 01:29:32,159
pick out which one we'll take.

2302
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:33,794
>> the ones that are coming, is

2303
01:29:33,794 --> 01:29:35,963
there any additional data that

2304
01:29:35,963 --> 01:29:38,640
it will be bringing?

2305
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,900
Or is it some of what we're

2306
01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:41,635
already getting or is anything

2307
01:29:41,635 --> 01:29:43,403
new going to be an attached?

2308
01:29:43,403 --> 01:29:45,172
>> with that but also we have

2309
01:29:45,172 --> 01:29:45,840
our license plate readers that

2310
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,840
are critical.

2311
01:29:48,776 --> 01:29:50,410
>> that's what I mean.

2312
01:29:50,410 --> 01:29:52,450
>> so we're also doing that as

2313
01:29:52,450 --> 01:29:53,447
well throughout the city to

2314
01:29:53,447 --> 01:29:56,160
broad energy our footprint and

2315
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,253
that's one of the things that I

2316
01:29:59,253 --> 01:30:02,256
would say that we lack in terms

2317
01:30:02,256 --> 01:30:03,190
of our dispersement of cameras

2318
01:30:03,190 --> 01:30:05,190
throughout the city.

2319
01:30:05,593 --> 01:30:05,693
I came from fayetteville state

2320
01:30:05,693 --> 01:30:07,693
-

2321
01:30:08,929 --> 01:30:10,230
where we had 80 cameras on that

2322
01:30:10,230 --> 01:30:11,431
small campus.

2323
01:30:11,431 --> 01:30:13,367
City here is more.

2324
01:30:13,367 --> 01:30:15,436
We have work to do and we're

2325
01:30:15,436 --> 01:30:18,305
moving it up and we'll continue

2326
01:30:18,305 --> 01:30:19,730
to move forward so we can be

2327
01:30:19,730 --> 01:30:20,507
utilizing the technology where

2328
01:30:20,507 --> 01:30:21,642
we don't have the personnel to

2329
01:30:21,642 --> 01:30:23,444
do that.

2330
01:30:23,444 --> 01:30:25,146
>> we'll be glad to get them

2331
01:30:25,146 --> 01:30:26,480
because our resident dos ask

2332
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:27,815
about them and then of course

2333
01:30:27,815 --> 01:30:30,251
I'll bring it back to you.

2334
01:30:30,251 --> 01:30:31,786
Thank you mayor.

2335
01:30:31,786 --> 01:30:33,786
>> council member benavente?

2336
01:30:34,210 --> 01:30:35,923
>> I'm trying to understand the

2337
01:30:35,923 --> 01:30:36,991
curfew 11-6.

2338
01:30:36,991 --> 01:30:38,259
Juvenile crime.

2339
01:30:38,259 --> 01:30:40,259
This is number 13.

2340
01:30:41,795 --> 01:30:45,395
Are you saying that of that

2341
01:30:46,133 --> 01:30:48,302
total number from quarter three,

2342
01:30:48,302 --> 01:30:50,571
are those instances where you

2343
01:30:50,571 --> 01:30:51,739
approach and young person for

2344
01:30:51,739 --> 01:30:53,507
violating curfew?

2345
01:30:53,507 --> 01:30:55,143
Or are these instances that

2346
01:30:55,143 --> 01:30:57,311
occurred in the window of time?

2347
01:30:57,311 --> 01:30:59,580
>> these are instance that

2348
01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:03,180
happen in the window of time.

2349
01:31:03,217 --> 01:31:05,453
Have there been anytimes where

2350
01:31:05,453 --> 01:31:06,954
the youth curfew was the

2351
01:31:06,954 --> 01:31:07,540
impetuous for an interaction

2352
01:31:07,540 --> 01:31:07,889
-

2353
01:31:07,889 --> 01:31:10,289
with a young person?

2354
01:31:10,391 --> 01:31:12,427
>> sir, I will tell you that

2355
01:31:12,427 --> 01:31:14,228
most of the ime that we

2356
01:31:14,228 --> 01:31:16,628
approach these young people,

2357
01:31:17,980 --> 01:31:18,433
we're looking at some other type

2358
01:31:18,433 --> 01:31:20,301
of crime associated with it.

2359
01:31:20,301 --> 01:31:22,370
>> that makes sense to me.

2360
01:31:22,370 --> 01:31:23,605
My concern was that you have

2361
01:31:23,605 --> 01:31:26,605
enough serious stuff going on

2362
01:31:27,174 --> 01:31:30,211
during the hours that a curfew

2363
01:31:30,211 --> 01:31:31,913
at best is redundant and at

2364
01:31:31,913 --> 01:31:34,313
worse creates this interaction

2365
01:31:35,183 --> 01:31:37,180
with citizen, so when you heard

2366
01:31:37,180 --> 01:31:38,586
someone might not be 18, I think

2367
01:31:38,586 --> 01:31:40,421
you are busy with real stuff

2368
01:31:40,421 --> 01:31:42,557
that you don't have to really

2369
01:31:42,557 --> 01:31:43,925
worry about that potential but

2370
01:31:43,925 --> 01:31:46,925
was there anytime where the

2371
01:31:46,928 --> 01:31:49,640
youth curfew, we talk about the

2372
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:50,765
tools we like to give you.

2373
01:31:50,765 --> 01:31:53,765
Did you utilize that tool?

2374
01:31:53,935 --> 01:31:55,269
>> that's not one we'll utilize

2375
01:31:55,269 --> 01:31:57,669
as the first option?

2376
01:31:58,139 --> 01:31:58,406
>> have you used it thus far at

2377
01:31:58,406 --> 01:31:58,973
all?

2378
01:31:58,973 --> 01:32:00,973
>> no.

2379
01:32:00,975 --> 01:32:02,110
>> that's all I have.

2380
01:32:02,110 --> 01:32:03,678
>> council member thompson?

2381
01:32:03,678 --> 01:32:06,678
>> thank you mayor and chief.

2382
01:32:06,981 --> 01:32:09,617
I have a question about the

2383
01:32:09,617 --> 01:32:11,617
juvenile s

2384
01:32:12,654 --> 01:32:14,489
juveniles for motor vehicles.

2385
01:32:14,489 --> 01:32:16,925
Is there a shift changing

2386
01:32:16,925 --> 01:32:17,525
because now the robberies are

2387
01:32:17,525 --> 01:32:19,525
going up?

2388
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:20,395
What ype of robberies are we

2389
01:32:20,395 --> 01:32:22,395
talking about?

2390
01:32:22,430 --> 01:32:25,430
>> they can be common law

2391
01:32:25,500 --> 01:32:27,900
robberies and usually they

2392
01:32:29,537 --> 01:32:31,600
threaten intimidation so that's

2393
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,600
considered robbery verses

2394
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:34,543
larceny but those are the ones

2395
01:32:34,543 --> 01:32:36,945
that are going in there.

2396
01:32:36,945 --> 01:32:38,980
It's hard to say based on we're

2397
01:32:38,980 --> 01:32:40,415
still early on into this

2398
01:32:40,415 --> 01:32:44,150
collecting data so it will take

2399
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:47,289
time for us to show what impact

2400
01:32:47,289 --> 01:32:49,910
that we're actually having

2401
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:51,459
regarding the protective order

2402
01:32:51,459 --> 01:32:53,128
so it will take time for us to

2403
01:32:53,128 --> 01:32:54,763
go ahead and start looking at

2404
01:32:54,763 --> 01:32:56,898
the numbers and see the impact

2405
01:32:56,898 --> 01:32:57,566
we're having in terms of

2406
01:32:57,566 --> 01:32:58,667
juvenile crime.

2407
01:32:58,667 --> 01:33:00,667
>> thank you chief.

2408
01:33:02,670 --> 01:33:05,140
>> I did have a question.

2409
01:33:05,140 --> 01:33:07,540
Are the juvenile assaults

2410
01:33:07,909 --> 01:33:08,244
include what happens at a

2411
01:33:08,244 --> 01:33:09,745
school?

2412
01:33:09,745 --> 01:33:11,745
>> that's correct sr.

2413
01:33:12,413 --> 01:33:13,149
>> so that number is all

2414
01:33:13,149 --> 01:33:14,650
encompassing of school activity

2415
01:33:14,650 --> 01:33:14,984
where things like that can

2416
01:33:14,984 --> 01:33:16,984
happen?

2417
01:33:17,180 --> 01:33:19,180
>> that's correct.

2418
01:33:19,588 --> 01:33:22,190
We have another slide here that

2419
01:33:22,190 --> 01:33:25,610
will show those events, as well.

2420
01:33:25,610 --> 01:33:27,896
This next slide is in

2421
01:33:27,896 --> 01:33:30,296
collaboration with director john

2422
01:33:31,330 --> 01:33:34,330
jones office of community safety

2423
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:35,638
as you'll see here we have done

2424
01:33:35,638 --> 01:33:38,380
numerous collaborations where we

2425
01:33:38,174 --> 01:33:40,409
reach out on 32 calls for

2426
01:33:40,409 --> 01:33:42,809
unhoused community where they

2427
01:33:43,512 --> 01:33:44,880
have helped us out and they

2428
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,715
require two professional staff

2429
01:33:46,715 --> 01:33:48,830
on their team now that was

2430
01:33:48,830 --> 01:33:51,190
working on some of the item has

2431
01:33:51,190 --> 01:33:52,988
the the officer community safety

2432
01:33:52,988 --> 01:33:55,391
will be assisting in now and we

2433
01:33:55,391 --> 01:33:57,926
continue to support them in any

2434
01:33:57,926 --> 01:33:59,929
events they MAY have, as well so

2435
01:33:59,929 --> 01:34:01,864
I know director jones will have

2436
01:34:01,864 --> 01:34:04,133
a more comprehensive report for

2437
01:34:04,133 --> 01:34:05,467
you all later on but I want to

2438
01:34:05,467 --> 01:34:06,535
highlight some of the

2439
01:34:06,535 --> 01:34:08,935
collaboration we've started with

2440
01:34:11,140 --> 01:34:13,542
the office of community safety.

2441
01:34:13,542 --> 01:34:16,278
Here's the calls starting AUGUST

2442
01:34:16,278 --> 01:34:18,678
25th through SEPTEMBER 0th

2443
01:34:18,780 --> 01:34:21,783
where you see the calls for

2444
01:34:21,783 --> 01:34:23,783
service with 267 with 95

2445
01:34:24,220 --> 01:34:26,288
incident reports that goes back

2446
01:34:26,288 --> 01:34:26,755
to our full comprehensive

2447
01:34:26,755 --> 01:34:28,491
report.

2448
01:34:28,491 --> 01:34:31,193
This is what has taken place at

2449
01:34:31,193 --> 01:34:34,163
the schools and currently we're

2450
01:34:34,163 --> 01:34:37,163
at 14 certified sro's and we'll

2451
01:34:37,366 --> 01:34:37,700
move that number to 18 in

2452
01:34:37,700 --> 01:34:38,901
JANUARY.

2453
01:34:38,901 --> 01:34:40,901
>> great.

2454
01:34:41,771 --> 01:34:44,171
>> here's our vice suppression

2455
01:34:44,774 --> 01:34:46,774
for narcotics.

2456
01:34:49,178 --> 01:34:51,113
As you see our fentanyl, we had

2457
01:34:51,113 --> 01:34:53,513
to correct the slide.

2458
01:34:54,718 --> 01:34:57,718
Our actual fentanyl seizure was

2459
01:34:58,187 --> 01:35:01,910
4.71 and we're up to 19 kilos at

2460
01:35:01,910 --> 01:35:04,600
this time and I think we've

2461
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,363
explained to you the impact that

2462
01:35:07,363 --> 01:35:09,310
a small of fentanyl can have on

2463
01:35:09,310 --> 01:35:11,310
a city.

2464
01:35:12,235 --> 01:35:12,602
These are numbers for our 911

2465
01:35:12,602 --> 01:35:14,602
dispatch.

2466
01:35:15,905 --> 01:35:18,305
Here you see there's 135

2467
01:35:19,141 --> 01:35:22,141
thousand 900 calls with fire and

2468
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:23,947
them for total of 153,000.

2469
01:35:23,947 --> 01:35:27,216
Also you'll see on the slide

2470
01:35:27,216 --> 01:35:30,816
here is the admin. Calls the

2471
01:35:32,222 --> 01:35:34,557
dispatch center has for over

2472
01:35:34,557 --> 01:35:35,391
292,000 calls.

2473
01:35:35,391 --> 01:35:37,270
>> wow.

2474
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:38,661
>> traffic enforcement.

2475
01:35:38,661 --> 01:35:42,899
I want to touch base as you see

2476
01:35:42,899 --> 01:35:44,899
these numbers here.

2477
01:35:45,535 --> 01:35:48,505
At every community meeting any

2478
01:35:48,505 --> 01:35:52,420
encounter I have with a citizen,

2479
01:35:52,420 --> 01:35:53,776
their concerns are speeding,

2480
01:35:53,776 --> 01:35:55,745
careless and recklessness and

2481
01:35:55,745 --> 01:35:56,460
folks driving through the red

2482
01:35:56,460 --> 01:35:57,380
light.

2483
01:35:57,380 --> 01:36:00,980
These are the results of these

2484
01:36:01,351 --> 01:36:03,119
that we see in the city.

2485
01:36:03,119 --> 01:36:05,988
And the only way that we're

2486
01:36:05,988 --> 01:36:09,192
going to be able to change this

2487
01:36:09,192 --> 01:36:12,192
behavior is by enforcement and

2488
01:36:31,448 --> 01:36:33,917
you'll see this is a moving

2489
01:36:33,917 --> 01:36:34,318
violations and non-moving

2490
01:36:34,318 --> 01:36:36,318
violations.

2491
01:36:37,388 --> 01:36:40,988
Very important for us to enforce

2492
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:44,994
both of those.

2493
01:36:44,994 --> 01:36:47,394
Here council member benavente

2494
01:36:49,299 --> 01:36:52,669
was asked to show and you see

2495
01:36:52,669 --> 01:36:55,690
we're up almost,000 total

2496
01:36:59,944 --> 01:37:01,978
stops from JANUARY to 2025.

2497
01:37:01,978 --> 01:37:04,715
This is a break down by

2498
01:37:04,715 --> 01:37:07,715
demographics as you'll see the

2499
01:37:18,795 --> 01:37:20,697
numbers.

2500
01:37:20,697 --> 01:37:22,733
Also you see the numbers in

2501
01:37:22,733 --> 01:37:25,235
terms of searches for 2024 even

2502
01:37:25,235 --> 01:37:28,235
though the number has raised

2503
01:37:28,406 --> 01:37:31,406
from 24 to 25, you'll notice the

2504
01:37:31,776 --> 01:37:32,776
percentage is literally almost

2505
01:37:32,776 --> 01:37:33,944
same.

2506
01:37:33,944 --> 01:37:35,944
3.47 percent.

2507
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:40,480
Exactly the same in terms of

2508
01:37:42,319 --> 01:37:44,319
vehicle searches.

2509
01:37:45,890 --> 01:37:45,422
>> chief just to clarify my

2510
01:37:45,422 --> 01:37:47,422
request.

2511
01:37:47,658 --> 01:37:50,658
The data that's not compared

2512
01:37:51,262 --> 01:37:53,664
appropriately I think you did an

2513
01:37:53,664 --> 01:37:55,866
accurate job on slide 22 when

2514
01:37:55,866 --> 01:37:57,902
you show the disparity between

2515
01:37:57,902 --> 01:37:59,904
white drivers being stopped and

2516
01:37:59,904 --> 01:38:02,139
it being double but the more

2517
01:38:02,139 --> 01:38:03,207
dramatic number is the number of

2518
01:38:03,207 --> 01:38:05,207
searches.

2519
01:38:05,943 --> 01:38:09,543
I think a bar graph showcasing

2520
01:38:17,455 --> 01:38:19,855
the difference between looks

2521
01:38:21,659 --> 01:38:23,600
like 873 is a dramatic

2522
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,395
difference is what's concerning

2523
01:38:24,395 --> 01:38:27,232
to people so that's the graph

2524
01:38:27,232 --> 01:38:30,434
that I feel is not presented

2525
01:38:30,434 --> 01:38:32,434
here.

2526
01:38:32,770 --> 01:38:33,104
It is a dramatically different

2527
01:38:33,104 --> 01:38:34,104
number.

2528
01:38:34,104 --> 01:38:35,473
>> we'll go to the next slide

2529
01:38:35,473 --> 01:38:37,873
that you are seeing.

2530
01:38:38,275 --> 01:38:40,611
You saw that percentage so this

2531
01:38:40,611 --> 01:38:41,112
is the results of these

2532
01:38:41,112 --> 01:38:43,112
searches, as well.

2533
01:38:43,348 --> 01:38:47,548
In terms of what we're able to

2534
01:38:53,124 --> 01:38:56,124
size and drugs and weapons.

2535
01:38:56,528 --> 01:38:58,928
About 40 percent and vehicle

2536
01:38:59,898 --> 01:39:02,298
results rom 24 and 2025 we're

2537
01:39:02,467 --> 01:39:05,467
up 61 percent in terms of

2538
01:39:06,437 --> 01:39:10,370
seizures and also up in weapon

2539
01:39:10,841 --> 01:39:12,841
seizures, as well.

2540
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,444
It's note-worthy for white

2541
01:39:16,748 --> 01:39:17,949
drivers it's 60 percent when it

2542
01:39:17,949 --> 01:39:19,784
comes to drugs.

2543
01:39:19,784 --> 01:39:21,419
>> I'll show you the next slide.

2544
01:39:21,419 --> 01:39:22,887
The vehicle stops you talk about

2545
01:39:22,887 --> 01:39:24,887
the 102.

2546
01:39:28,526 --> 01:39:30,996
We had one point 2% in 2024 we

2547
01:39:30,996 --> 01:39:32,864
end up to 2%.

2548
01:39:32,864 --> 01:39:34,733
In 25 but I'll let you see the

2549
01:39:34,733 --> 01:39:36,100
next slide that shows a little

2550
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:39,100
correlation of what we're able

2551
01:39:43,908 --> 01:39:46,908
to result so therefore, about 47

2552
01:39:47,790 --> 01:39:49,480
percent and just over 18% of

2553
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:51,883
weapons among white drivers in

2554
01:39:51,883 --> 01:39:54,553
2024 but if you look to 2025 we

2555
01:39:54,553 --> 01:39:55,820
have 60 percent in drugs and 12

2556
01:39:55,820 --> 01:39:57,689
percent in weapons.

2557
01:39:57,689 --> 01:39:59,691
>> I guess what I'm hoping that

2558
01:39:59,691 --> 01:40:01,759
not only I hope to illustrate

2559
01:40:01,759 --> 01:40:05,130
but in the book I shared with

2560
01:40:05,130 --> 01:40:08,730
you and director john ones the

2561
01:40:10,602 --> 01:40:13,200
research shows that black,

2562
01:40:13,370 --> 01:40:14,706
white, asian, hispanic, once an

2563
01:40:14,706 --> 01:40:17,900
officer says they appropriately

2564
01:40:17,900 --> 01:40:19,430
need to be searched the

2565
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:21,120
likelihood of being some

2566
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:22,460
contraband is fairly equal

2567
01:40:22,460 --> 01:40:24,446
across demographic, so the

2568
01:40:25,490 --> 01:40:27,252
question becomes why is it that

2569
01:40:27,252 --> 01:40:29,287
one group ends up being stopped

2570
01:40:29,287 --> 01:40:30,789
so many times more when the

2571
01:40:30,789 --> 01:40:33,892
ratios are fairly equal and I

2572
01:40:33,892 --> 01:40:35,861
think the answer there is not

2573
01:40:35,861 --> 01:40:36,962
necessarily your response built

2574
01:40:36,962 --> 01:40:38,962
to resolve.

2575
01:40:39,297 --> 01:40:40,232
I think you said something a

2576
01:40:40,232 --> 01:40:41,366
moment ago.

2577
01:40:41,366 --> 01:40:43,101
Changing behavior can only

2578
01:40:43,101 --> 01:40:44,903
happen through enforcement and I

2579
01:40:44,903 --> 01:40:47,106
think that's a huge MISS

2580
01:40:47,106 --> 01:40:48,340
Statement because really

2581
01:40:48,340 --> 01:40:50,340
infrastructure changes can

2582
01:40:50,609 --> 01:40:52,678
change how fast someone is going

2583
01:40:52,678 --> 01:40:54,279
down a street without there

2584
01:40:54,279 --> 01:40:54,780
having to be an enforcement

2585
01:40:54,780 --> 01:40:56,381
matter.

2586
01:40:56,381 --> 01:40:58,617
How many times does a person

2587
01:40:58,617 --> 01:40:59,752
have to get a speeding ticket

2588
01:40:59,752 --> 01:41:00,652
before they never speed again in

2589
01:41:00,652 --> 01:41:02,254
their lives.

2590
01:41:02,254 --> 01:41:03,889
I don't think that's a limit.

2591
01:41:03,889 --> 01:41:06,192
>> I'm saying it will never be

2592
01:41:06,192 --> 01:41:07,593
the case that you are on every

2593
01:41:07,593 --> 01:41:09,128
single street every time someone

2594
01:41:09,128 --> 01:41:11,196
is speeding but we have to

2595
01:41:11,196 --> 01:41:11,797
change the infrastructure at

2596
01:41:11,797 --> 01:41:13,498
times.

2597
01:41:13,498 --> 01:41:16,680
It's not just a behavior thing.

2598
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:17,869
>> sir, you can have an in for

2599
01:41:17,869 --> 01:41:19,338
structure set up but if

2600
01:41:19,338 --> 01:41:21,540
individuals continue to speed

2601
01:41:21,540 --> 01:41:22,941
and feel they can speed without

2602
01:41:22,941 --> 01:41:24,941
penalty they will.

2603
01:41:26,211 --> 01:41:27,179
Doesn't matter infrastructure

2604
01:41:27,179 --> 01:41:29,381
but when individuals believe

2605
01:41:29,381 --> 01:41:31,483
hey, I'm going to get stopped

2606
01:41:31,483 --> 01:41:33,285
and I don't want a fine or my

2607
01:41:33,285 --> 01:41:35,621
insurance to go up or get

2608
01:41:35,621 --> 01:41:35,921
arrested so there's part of that

2609
01:41:35,921 --> 01:41:37,921
also.

2610
01:41:38,624 --> 01:41:39,240
Not just infrastructure but

2611
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,240
enforcement.

2612
01:41:42,610 --> 01:41:44,397
I will say that there s

2613
01:41:44,397 --> 01:41:46,397
is some

2614
01:41:46,799 --> 01:41:49,101
truth in terms of some of the

2615
01:41:49,101 --> 01:41:51,137
locations that we'll have issues

2616
01:41:51,137 --> 01:41:52,905
but I'll also firmly say that

2617
01:41:52,905 --> 01:41:53,272
enforcement is what changes

2618
01:41:53,272 --> 01:41:55,272
behavior.

2619
01:41:57,276 --> 01:41:59,780
>> the last thing I'll ask is,

2620
01:41:59,780 --> 01:42:00,979
and I feel like I get bad

2621
01:42:00,979 --> 01:42:01,346
answers when ask this

2622
01:42:01,346 --> 01:42:03,346
question.

2623
01:42:03,449 --> 01:42:05,217
But when you see the disparity

2624
01:42:05,217 --> 01:42:08,454
in the way that we conduct our

2625
01:42:08,454 --> 01:42:10,422
stops and searches is it all a

2626
01:42:10,422 --> 01:42:12,358
concern for you or do you have

2627
01:42:12,358 --> 01:42:13,960
an interest in looking what

2628
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:15,795
other departments have done in

2629
01:42:15,795 --> 01:42:17,529
other parts of the country that

2630
01:42:17,529 --> 01:42:20,333
have no reduction in the number

2631
01:42:20,333 --> 01:42:23,933
of guns they have recovered or

2632
01:42:25,771 --> 01:42:28,374
the drugs on a, annual basis but

2633
01:42:28,374 --> 01:42:31,110
have done something the way

2634
01:42:31,110 --> 01:42:31,577
we're stopping disparities of

2635
01:42:31,577 --> 01:42:33,577
stopping people.

2636
01:42:34,130 --> 01:42:36,315
>> sir we have very much the

2637
01:42:36,315 --> 01:42:38,651
interest in trying to do that.

2638
01:42:38,651 --> 01:42:40,153
Unfortunately as I stated last

2639
01:42:40,153 --> 01:42:42,355
we were at a conference last

2640
01:42:42,355 --> 01:42:43,722
week and this is not just a

2641
01:42:43,722 --> 01:42:45,722
fayetteville issue.

2642
01:42:46,580 --> 01:42:46,459
This is north carolina,

2643
01:42:46,459 --> 01:42:48,361
nation-wide.

2644
01:42:48,361 --> 01:42:50,496
This is an issue but one thing I

2645
01:42:50,496 --> 01:42:53,330
would like for you to understand

2646
01:42:53,330 --> 01:42:55,568
and our citizens to understand

2647
01:42:55,568 --> 01:42:56,736
is when we stop a vehicle, it's

2648
01:42:56,736 --> 01:42:57,938
the violation.

2649
01:42:57,938 --> 01:42:59,972
It's not because of the race of

2650
01:42:59,972 --> 01:43:02,409
the person that's in the car

2651
01:43:02,409 --> 01:43:04,877
it's the violation that we stop.

2652
01:43:04,877 --> 01:43:07,413
>> I trust that 100 percent but

2653
01:43:07,413 --> 01:43:09,516
I'm saying when you see other

2654
01:43:09,516 --> 01:43:11,916
industries ike schools that

2655
01:43:12,218 --> 01:43:13,887
have shown that their rates of

2656
01:43:13,887 --> 01:43:16,422
explosion for black students is

2657
01:43:16,422 --> 01:43:19,422
higher and when you see

2658
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,360
hospitals the maternal health

2659
01:43:23,529 --> 01:43:23,896
outcomes for black baders is

2660
01:43:23,896 --> 01:43:25,896
disparate.

2661
01:43:26,266 --> 01:43:27,934
We don't ask if they are racist

2662
01:43:27,934 --> 01:43:29,803
anymore we just say we need to

2663
01:43:29,803 --> 01:43:31,204
stop these outcomes from

2664
01:43:31,204 --> 01:43:32,806
happening so let's ove fast

2665
01:43:32,806 --> 01:43:34,641
first level of discussion.

2666
01:43:34,641 --> 01:43:37,343
I don't care about proving we're

2667
01:43:37,343 --> 01:43:39,343
doing something discriminatory

2668
01:43:39,713 --> 01:43:41,348
or racially bias but the

2669
01:43:41,348 --> 01:43:43,348
outcomes are indisputable.

2670
01:43:43,817 --> 01:43:44,830
What are we going to do about it

2671
01:43:44,830 --> 01:43:46,830
now?

2672
01:43:46,352 --> 01:43:47,988
That doesn't require that you're

2673
01:43:47,988 --> 01:43:50,388
doing something racially bias

2674
01:43:50,757 --> 01:43:54,357
because the outcomes are that so

2675
01:43:55,610 --> 01:43:56,529
what will we do bout it now?

2676
01:43:56,529 --> 01:43:56,997
>> thank you council member

2677
01:43:56,997 --> 01:43:58,798
benavente.

2678
01:43:58,798 --> 01:44:02,360
Every time we get to this point

2679
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:02,135
it goes back to the money.

2680
01:44:02,135 --> 01:44:02,702
-

2681
01:44:02,702 --> 01:44:04,702
okay?

2682
01:44:05,505 --> 01:44:09,760
So I think what would be helpful

2683
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:13,276
for me, because as we look at

2684
01:44:13,413 --> 01:44:15,820
25,000 stopped black drivers.

2685
01:44:15,820 --> 01:44:16,550
13 thousand white drivers this

2686
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:18,550
year, right?

2687
01:44:19,286 --> 01:44:21,588
How many are for things like

2688
01:44:21,588 --> 01:44:23,323
whatever prompted you to stop.

2689
01:44:23,323 --> 01:44:24,958
Tags out, insurance out, lights

2690
01:44:24,958 --> 01:44:26,727
not working.

2691
01:44:26,727 --> 01:44:29,127
Registration didn't check out.

2692
01:44:29,330 --> 01:44:30,330
Like is there a category that

2693
01:44:30,330 --> 01:44:32,330
captures that number?

2694
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,669
Because we all know all the

2695
01:44:35,669 --> 01:44:37,771
things that my colleague named

2696
01:44:37,771 --> 01:44:40,474
are rooted in economics but

2697
01:44:40,474 --> 01:44:41,575
nobody ever wants to get to the

2698
01:44:41,575 --> 01:44:43,544
economic conversation.

2699
01:44:43,544 --> 01:44:46,460
You had ten minutes to preach.

2700
01:44:46,460 --> 01:44:46,713
So we have to talk about the

2701
01:44:46,713 --> 01:44:47,140
economics.

2702
01:44:47,140 --> 01:44:49,140
Right?

2703
01:44:49,183 --> 01:44:51,318
And so it's easy for people who

2704
01:44:51,318 --> 01:44:53,187
have never walked this path to

2705
01:44:53,187 --> 01:44:55,210
tell everybody what they need to

2706
01:44:55,210 --> 01:44:55,789
do and haven't lived in

2707
01:44:55,789 --> 01:44:57,789
neighborhood where's 18 shots

2708
01:44:59,226 --> 01:45:02,129
have been fired and all of those

2709
01:45:02,129 --> 01:45:03,831
things but do you have a way to

2710
01:45:03,831 --> 01:45:05,700
extract out the basis of the

2711
01:45:05,700 --> 01:45:07,935
call that showed whether this is

2712
01:45:07,935 --> 01:45:11,104
a call based on lapsed insurance

2713
01:45:11,104 --> 01:45:14,208
or a call based on expired tags

2714
01:45:14,208 --> 01:45:16,143
or something that we can

2715
01:45:16,143 --> 01:45:18,612
contribute to a real problem?

2716
01:45:18,612 --> 01:45:20,314
>> we can extrapolate that

2717
01:45:20,314 --> 01:45:22,820
regarding non-moving violation

2718
01:45:22,820 --> 01:45:24,820
and egulatory violations.

2719
01:45:24,318 --> 01:45:26,354
>> that would be helpful because

2720
01:45:26,354 --> 01:45:29,857
that's in this total number so

2721
01:45:29,857 --> 01:45:31,626
you had it broken down with the

2722
01:45:31,626 --> 01:45:34,260
green and red dots.

2723
01:45:34,428 --> 01:45:36,663
You had just as many

2724
01:45:36,663 --> 01:45:38,650
non-violating violations.

2725
01:45:38,650 --> 01:45:40,650
Non-moving violations.

2726
01:45:40,201 --> 01:45:41,468
So I would like to see that in a

2727
01:45:41,468 --> 01:45:43,437
future report?

2728
01:45:43,437 --> 01:45:45,837
>> currently I'm talking with

2729
01:45:45,873 --> 01:45:48,443
our team and I.T. To try to

2730
01:45:48,443 --> 01:45:50,843
develop a moore comprehensive

2731
01:45:51,312 --> 01:45:53,380
way to show what you are all

2732
01:45:53,380 --> 01:45:55,649
asking for in a matt manner

2733
01:45:55,649 --> 01:45:57,318
that's easier to read and a

2734
01:45:57,318 --> 01:45:59,687
little more lively because a lot

2735
01:45:59,687 --> 01:45:59,954
of the data changes from day to

2736
01:45:59,954 --> 01:46:01,954
day.

2737
01:46:03,958 --> 01:46:07,940
>> I can as sure you that as the

2738
01:46:07,940 --> 01:46:08,496
cuts are coming that the county

2739
01:46:08,496 --> 01:46:09,964
commissioner held a meeting for

2740
01:46:09,964 --> 01:46:11,733
that people are going to be

2741
01:46:11,733 --> 01:46:14,802
faced with the choice of paying

2742
01:46:14,802 --> 01:46:17,171
a bill or renewing insurance or

2743
01:46:17,171 --> 01:46:19,730
paying a bill and renewing tag,

2744
01:46:19,730 --> 01:46:19,874
so those kinds of things

2745
01:46:19,874 --> 01:46:21,874
contribute of it.

2746
01:46:23,770 --> 01:46:24,345
The mans is a part of it so I

2747
01:46:24,345 --> 01:46:26,581
welcome those discussion but you

2748
01:46:26,581 --> 01:46:27,648
have to talk about the eal

2749
01:46:27,648 --> 01:46:28,449
underlying problem.

2750
01:46:28,449 --> 01:46:29,917
Council member thompson?

2751
01:46:29,917 --> 01:46:31,586
>> thank you MR. Myor.

2752
01:46:31,586 --> 01:46:33,220
Chief I want to go at a

2753
01:46:33,220 --> 01:46:36,220
different angle because ou did

2754
01:46:38,126 --> 01:46:38,793
not talk about the sro's too

2755
01:46:38,793 --> 01:46:40,228
much.

2756
01:46:40,228 --> 01:46:41,896
What is ur requirement?

2757
01:46:41,896 --> 01:46:43,765
I think our contract says we

2758
01:46:43,765 --> 01:46:44,899
have to have so many by the end

2759
01:46:44,899 --> 01:46:45,499
of JANUARY.

2760
01:46:45,499 --> 01:46:47,499
>> 18.

2761
01:46:47,602 --> 01:46:48,670
>> we're currently at 14.

2762
01:46:48,670 --> 01:46:50,670
>> yes, sir.

2763
01:46:51,906 --> 01:46:54,141
>> and what is our capacity for

2764
01:46:54,141 --> 01:46:56,141
our

2765
01:46:56,712 --> 01:46:58,712
ours, I think 62?

2766
01:46:59,814 --> 01:47:01,814
>> it fluctuates daily.

2767
01:47:03,551 --> 01:47:04,920
Every day, it is a constant

2768
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,920
revolving window in terms of

2769
01:47:09,490 --> 01:47:11,425
that so it's about 65 positions,

2770
01:47:11,425 --> 01:47:12,794
but it's constantly I think

2771
01:47:12,794 --> 01:47:14,794
we're at 62.

2772
01:47:15,730 --> 01:47:19,330
I think right now 62 right now

2773
01:47:20,302 --> 01:47:23,400
in terms of our tc o.

2774
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,640
For MADAM Attorney, where are we

2775
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,410
getting our red light back in

2776
01:47:28,410 --> 01:47:29,944
the lawsuit with wilmington and

2777
01:47:29,944 --> 01:47:31,446
I believe speeds ago habit and

2778
01:47:31,446 --> 01:47:33,948
we have to change that.

2779
01:47:33,948 --> 01:47:36,184
If you know there's a light at a

2780
01:47:36,184 --> 01:47:38,860
certain corner and you got a

2781
01:47:38,860 --> 01:47:39,554
ticket there once before you

2782
01:47:39,554 --> 01:47:41,756
will not speed there again.

2783
01:47:41,756 --> 01:47:43,756
>> there's litigation from

2784
01:47:44,125 --> 01:47:46,125
another jurisdiction pending.

2785
01:47:46,528 --> 01:47:47,796
Council, you are welcome to

2786
01:47:47,796 --> 01:47:49,198
reinstate it before that it will

2787
01:47:49,198 --> 01:47:51,767
education is complete but you

2788
01:47:51,767 --> 01:47:52,670
are at risk of being sued, as

2789
01:47:52,670 --> 01:47:54,670
well.

2790
01:47:54,369 --> 01:47:56,972
>> I wanted to wait until this

2791
01:47:56,972 --> 01:47:58,407
was over before we tried to

2792
01:47:58,407 --> 01:47:58,706
reinstate it but thank you

2793
01:47:58,706 --> 01:48:00,609
chief.

2794
01:48:00,609 --> 01:48:02,611
That was my questions.

2795
01:48:02,611 --> 01:48:03,645
>> thank you, mayor.

2796
01:48:03,645 --> 01:48:05,147
>> I'll continue.

2797
01:48:05,147 --> 01:48:06,815
>> yeah and just for the sake of

2798
01:48:06,815 --> 01:48:08,160
time we're going to let you

2799
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:09,117
continue and we'll catch the

2800
01:48:09,117 --> 01:48:11,860
questions at the end.

2801
01:48:11,860 --> 01:48:12,587
>> we'll break down in terms of

2802
01:48:12,587 --> 01:48:16,125
the vehicle stops and the others

2803
01:48:16,125 --> 01:48:20,325
that you also see the 2% kind of

2804
01:48:20,997 --> 01:48:22,464
consistent from 24 to 25 well,

2805
01:48:22,464 --> 01:48:25,000
and then the break down in terms

2806
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,000
of the others and those

2807
01:48:28,300 --> 01:48:30,773
percentages related to it as you

2808
01:48:30,773 --> 01:48:33,173
see in 2025 those percentages

2809
01:48:34,176 --> 01:48:37,776
are also increasing in terms of

2810
01:48:39,881 --> 01:48:42,881
drugs and weapons, as well.

2811
01:48:43,519 --> 01:48:46,422
One of the topics that our team

2812
01:48:46,422 --> 01:48:47,422
has discussed in terms of

2813
01:48:47,422 --> 01:48:50,422
transparency wanted to I think

2814
01:48:50,993 --> 01:48:52,495
in the yearly report we provide

2815
01:48:52,495 --> 01:48:54,363
city council and the citizens

2816
01:48:54,363 --> 01:48:56,398
here of fayetteville the numbers

2817
01:48:56,398 --> 01:48:58,134
but I think that I want to be

2818
01:48:58,134 --> 01:49:01,734
able to provide these numbers on

2819
01:49:02,805 --> 01:49:04,940
a quarterly basis in terms of to

2820
01:49:04,940 --> 01:49:07,340
alleviate perceptions out there

2821
01:49:07,609 --> 01:49:10,813
that we do not police our

2822
01:49:10,813 --> 01:49:13,782
officers when they are engaged

2823
01:49:13,782 --> 01:49:16,182
in activity or unprofessionalism

2824
01:49:16,552 --> 01:49:18,120
so what I ant to do on

2825
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,923
quarterlies is to highlight what

2826
01:49:20,923 --> 01:49:22,758
we do in terms of when we

2827
01:49:22,758 --> 01:49:24,727
receive these complaints and

2828
01:49:24,727 --> 01:49:28,164
you'll see in erms of some of

2829
01:49:28,164 --> 01:49:31,000
the citizens complaints you know

2830
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:31,868
our complaints are down compared

2831
01:49:31,868 --> 01:49:33,868
to 2024.

2832
01:49:34,904 --> 01:49:36,605
We have ore positive comments

2833
01:49:36,605 --> 01:49:38,174
compared to 2024 and one of the

2834
01:49:38,174 --> 01:49:40,409
things too that we want to also

2835
01:49:40,409 --> 01:49:42,612
make sure that when we have our

2836
01:49:42,612 --> 01:49:43,679
internal affairs doing their

2837
01:49:43,679 --> 01:49:46,790
investigations and also, going

2838
01:49:48,517 --> 01:49:50,553
to give what we have are our

2839
01:49:50,553 --> 01:49:52,554
dispositions in terms of sustain

2840
01:49:52,554 --> 01:49:54,190
minutes and exonerations and

2841
01:49:54,190 --> 01:49:56,459
other violations than the

2842
01:49:56,459 --> 01:49:57,493
complaint that was originally

2843
01:49:57,493 --> 01:49:59,395
received and the next slide here

2844
01:49:59,395 --> 01:50:01,964
will show you exactly in terms

2845
01:50:01,964 --> 01:50:03,132
of what we're able to do.

2846
01:50:03,132 --> 01:50:05,168
Of course based on the

2847
01:50:05,168 --> 01:50:07,236
limitation that we have on hr

2848
01:50:07,236 --> 01:50:09,205
but we want to give you when we

2849
01:50:09,205 --> 01:50:11,241
do receive these complaints and

2850
01:50:11,241 --> 01:50:14,710
what we're doing in terms of

2851
01:50:14,710 --> 01:50:16,646
coaching and policy warnings and

2852
01:50:16,646 --> 01:50:18,447
written reprimands and

2853
01:50:18,447 --> 01:50:20,483
suspensions and demotions and

2854
01:50:20,483 --> 01:50:22,585
dismissals and a lot of this

2855
01:50:22,585 --> 01:50:24,420
started before I or arrived.

2856
01:50:24,420 --> 01:50:26,890
Chief braeyden was very much

2857
01:50:26,890 --> 01:50:29,325
involved in terms of making sure

2858
01:50:29,325 --> 01:50:31,227
upholding policy and laws and

2859
01:50:31,227 --> 01:50:32,495
making sure that these bad

2860
01:50:32,495 --> 01:50:35,364
actors in the department are

2861
01:50:35,364 --> 01:50:37,134
held to the standard and that

2862
01:50:37,134 --> 01:50:39,669
they will be held you know to

2863
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:41,271
the law and make sure that they

2864
01:50:41,271 --> 01:50:43,573
don't reflect badly on the rest

2865
01:50:43,573 --> 01:50:46,409
of us out there trying to do the

2866
01:50:46,409 --> 01:50:48,811
job in a professional manner

2867
01:50:48,811 --> 01:50:50,811
every day.

2868
01:50:54,817 --> 01:50:56,786
As you see here this is our

2869
01:50:56,786 --> 01:50:57,860
developmental staff agent this

2870
01:50:57,860 --> 01:50:59,860
time.

2871
01:50:59,256 --> 01:51:01,256
We have 06 vacancies.

2872
01:51:01,491 --> 01:51:03,260
Down about 40%.

2873
01:51:03,260 --> 01:51:04,560
We have a

2874
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:06,960
numbers oming right now

2875
01:51:09,310 --> 01:51:11,168
and we're hoping to be by 30,

2876
01:51:11,168 --> 01:51:13,670
JANUARY, based on the numbers

2877
01:51:13,670 --> 01:51:15,471
coming so, but like I said I'm

2878
01:51:15,471 --> 01:51:18,141
going to take tips from achieve

2879
01:51:18,141 --> 01:51:19,776
dove and see what they did to

2880
01:51:19,776 --> 01:51:23,130
get those folk but to give you

2881
01:51:23,130 --> 01:51:23,413
an example we can have 100

2882
01:51:23,413 --> 01:51:25,413
applicants.

2883
01:51:26,716 --> 01:51:29,716
Out of that 100 applicants we

2884
01:51:29,987 --> 01:51:31,688
MAY qualify up to 50 that MAY

2885
01:51:31,688 --> 01:51:33,220
make it through the first round

2886
01:51:33,220 --> 01:51:35,220
of the backgrounds.

2887
01:51:36,326 --> 01:51:38,162
Then ut of the that 50, we MAY

2888
01:51:38,162 --> 01:51:41,640
end up with 25 that actually

2889
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,640
makes it to the academy.

2890
01:51:47,404 --> 01:51:50,373
Out of that academy of 25, we're

2891
01:51:50,373 --> 01:51:50,740
graduating about 12 so that's a

2892
01:51:50,740 --> 01:51:52,740
challenge.

2893
01:51:52,876 --> 01:51:55,276
>> you went from 100 to 12.

2894
01:51:55,312 --> 01:51:57,312
>> that's a challenge.

2895
01:51:58,820 --> 01:51:59,816
We don't have, you know,

2896
01:51:59,816 --> 01:52:00,684
application pool of several

2897
01:52:00,684 --> 01:52:01,852
hundred.

2898
01:52:01,852 --> 01:52:02,586
We do not.

2899
01:52:02,586 --> 01:52:04,187
You know?

2900
01:52:04,187 --> 01:52:05,789
That's been the challenge, you

2901
01:52:05,789 --> 01:52:07,591
know, because we're always

2902
01:52:07,591 --> 01:52:10,327
constantly, you know, as you've

2903
01:52:10,327 --> 01:52:12,129
seen in the other slides we're

2904
01:52:12,129 --> 01:52:14,297
dismissing folks, as well.

2905
01:52:14,297 --> 01:52:16,834
Those are new vacancies we have

2906
01:52:16,834 --> 01:52:18,401
to make-up for.

2907
01:52:18,401 --> 01:52:20,471
It's a safe constant ballot bull

2908
01:52:20,471 --> 01:52:21,705
we're pushing to make this

2909
01:52:21,705 --> 01:52:25,305
number and be successful by the

2910
01:52:25,476 --> 01:52:27,511
end of this fiscal year.

2911
01:52:27,511 --> 01:52:29,313
>> MR. Mayor?

2912
01:52:29,313 --> 01:52:31,515
>> chief, I didn't have a

2913
01:52:31,515 --> 01:52:31,615
question until you brought this

2914
01:52:31,615 --> 01:52:33,615
-

2915
01:52:35,419 --> 01:52:37,254
up and we were at the graduation

2916
01:52:37,254 --> 01:52:39,857
and I can't remember how many

2917
01:52:39,857 --> 01:52:40,791
was graduating but three had

2918
01:52:40,791 --> 01:52:42,791
masters degrees.

2919
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:45,596
How did you get that pool?

2920
01:52:45,596 --> 01:52:47,596
>> yes, sir.

2921
01:52:48,265 --> 01:52:50,701
So we had, believe it or not, we

2922
01:52:50,701 --> 01:52:53,300
have a pool of folks, matter of

2923
01:52:53,300 --> 01:52:54,505
fact one of those that has the

2924
01:52:54,505 --> 01:52:55,639
masters is actually working on

2925
01:52:55,639 --> 01:52:57,639
their ph.D.

2926
01:52:58,542 --> 01:53:00,430
We have highly educated and

2927
01:53:00,430 --> 01:53:02,443
qualified individuals that want

2928
01:53:03,147 --> 01:53:04,849
to do, some of them went to

2929
01:53:04,849 --> 01:53:07,249
school formerly for accounting

2930
01:53:07,318 --> 01:53:08,452
and then decide I want to really

2931
01:53:08,452 --> 01:53:10,452
be a cop.

2932
01:53:10,621 --> 01:53:10,921
They come in here and we'll take

2933
01:53:10,921 --> 01:53:12,921
them.

2934
01:53:13,724 --> 01:53:15,192
We can utilize that skill set so

2935
01:53:15,192 --> 01:53:16,894
we have that.

2936
01:53:16,894 --> 01:53:19,697
That's happening all across the

2937
01:53:19,697 --> 01:53:21,666
nation folks want to come in and

2938
01:53:21,666 --> 01:53:24,340
make a complete change and also,

2939
01:53:24,340 --> 01:53:25,236
some of it is economy.

2940
01:53:25,236 --> 01:53:27,104
You know you MAY ave

2941
01:53:27,104 --> 01:53:28,339
individuals that MAY have had a

2942
01:53:28,339 --> 01:53:29,907
career in a particular field and

2943
01:53:29,907 --> 01:53:33,211
next thing you know that field

2944
01:53:33,211 --> 01:53:35,947
is, you know, being utilized in

2945
01:53:35,947 --> 01:53:38,416
terms of maybe ai is taking

2946
01:53:38,416 --> 01:53:40,819
their job or robots so now they

2947
01:53:40,819 --> 01:53:42,220
are coming and looking for other

2948
01:53:42,220 --> 01:53:44,822
career field there's stable for

2949
01:53:44,822 --> 01:53:46,570
them, for their family, with

2950
01:53:46,570 --> 01:53:47,559
benefit and health insurance and

2951
01:53:47,559 --> 01:53:49,627
everything else so those for

2952
01:53:49,627 --> 01:53:50,428
people that we're targeting and

2953
01:53:50,428 --> 01:53:52,229
hoping to keep.

2954
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:53,765
>> thank you MR. Mayor.

2955
01:53:53,765 --> 01:53:55,765
>> mayor pro tem?

2956
01:57:38,658 --> 01:57:39,392
>> thank you MR. Mayor.

2957
01:57:39,392 --> 01:57:40,826
This is going to be our last

2958
01:57:40,826 --> 01:57:43,826
time getting to discuss the

2959
01:57:43,829 --> 01:57:45,331
quarterly report, so I hope that

2960
01:57:45,331 --> 01:57:46,532
you get some more critical

2961
01:57:46,532 --> 01:57:47,767
questions in the future from

2962
01:57:47,767 --> 01:57:49,468
this council, because I know

2963
01:57:49,468 --> 01:57:50,569
that over the past

2964
01:57:50,569 --> 01:57:52,405
three-and-a-half almost four

2965
01:57:52,405 --> 01:57:54,841
years I've been on council, I

2966
01:57:54,841 --> 01:57:55,742
never often see anyone else on

2967
01:57:55,742 --> 01:57:57,443
council asking questions to be

2968
01:57:57,443 --> 01:57:59,843
critical of the report.

2969
01:58:01,414 --> 01:58:02,915
And it's not critical in the

2970
01:58:02,915 --> 01:58:04,617
sense of being critical, but

2971
01:58:04,617 --> 01:58:05,718
iron sharpens iron and it's

2972
01:58:05,718 --> 01:58:07,287
important for you to get more

2973
01:58:07,287 --> 01:58:08,554
perspective on the data you're

2974
01:58:08,554 --> 01:58:09,550
sharing from members of the

2975
01:58:09,550 --> 01:58:11,550
community who have

2976
01:58:11,458 --> 01:58:13,858
questions about the awesome

2977
01:58:15,728 --> 01:58:16,329
power of government as it is

2978
01:58:16,329 --> 01:58:16,730
exemplified through law

2979
01:58:16,730 --> 01:58:17,897
enforcement.

2980
01:58:17,897 --> 01:58:19,165
There's always going to be room

2981
01:58:19,165 --> 01:58:21,667
and necessary space for these

2982
01:58:21,667 --> 01:58:22,936
kinds of questions, but none of

2983
01:58:22,936 --> 01:58:24,171
my concerns are coming from a

2984
01:58:24,171 --> 01:58:24,838
place of disrespect for you or

2985
01:58:24,838 --> 01:58:27,238
the work you do.

2986
01:58:27,407 --> 01:58:29,142
I think about my father who is a

2987
01:58:29,142 --> 01:58:31,100
soldier and me going to college

2988
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:34,100
and people saying nasty things

2989
01:58:35,515 --> 01:58:37,515
about soldiers, right?

2990
01:58:39,986 --> 01:58:43,724
And I was, like, that's not what

2991
01:58:43,724 --> 01:58:44,624
soldiers do.

2992
01:58:44,624 --> 01:58:46,226
Supporting the troops doesn't

2993
01:58:46,226 --> 01:58:46,960
necessarily mean supporting

2994
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,129
everything the government sends

2995
01:58:49,129 --> 01:58:50,496
them out to do, so my criticism

2996
01:58:50,496 --> 01:58:52,332
is never of the folks doing the

2997
01:58:52,332 --> 01:58:55,168
hard work behind the badge.

2998
01:58:55,168 --> 01:58:57,303
That's why I go out to all the

2999
01:58:57,303 --> 01:58:58,805
graduation ceremonies, because I

3000
01:58:58,805 --> 01:59:01,208
want to inundate myself with the

3001
01:59:01,208 --> 01:59:03,177
pride I see on everyone's faces

3002
01:59:03,177 --> 01:59:05,145
to make sure my criticism is

3003
01:59:05,145 --> 01:59:07,247
never personal but coming from a

3004
01:59:07,247 --> 01:59:07,581
place of necessary professional

3005
01:59:07,581 --> 01:59:08,782
concern.

3006
01:59:08,782 --> 01:59:11,484
But a bigger concern that I have

3007
01:59:11,484 --> 01:59:14,755
and this is where I really want

3008
01:59:14,755 --> 01:59:16,957
to ask you, begging you,

3009
01:59:16,957 --> 01:59:18,250
honestly, as I think a chief of

3010
01:59:18,250 --> 01:59:19,860
very high integrity, you know

3011
01:59:19,860 --> 01:59:22,496
this council and probably the

3012
01:59:22,496 --> 01:59:25,299
council after this is going to

3013
01:59:25,299 --> 01:59:26,600
very rubber-stamp thoughtlessly

3014
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:27,367
spend as much as you're going to

3015
01:59:27,367 --> 01:59:28,302
ask for.

3016
01:59:28,302 --> 01:59:29,836
It's going to be your

3017
01:59:29,836 --> 01:59:32,836
responsibility to, I think, put

3018
01:59:32,839 --> 01:59:34,774
some lines in the sand.

3019
01:59:34,774 --> 01:59:36,410
I remember a previous chief

3020
01:59:36,410 --> 01:59:38,111
saying that the starting salary

3021
01:59:38,111 --> 01:59:39,914
for a new officer shouldn't be

3022
01:59:39,914 --> 01:59:42,914
over six figures, that there

3023
01:59:43,550 --> 01:59:44,851
needs to be some grit and

3024
01:59:44,851 --> 01:59:47,540
tenacity built in whether or not

3025
01:59:47,540 --> 01:59:49,723
you're really built or this

3026
01:59:49,723 --> 01:59:51,859
job, but if you ask the city

3027
01:59:51,859 --> 01:59:54,270
council for an enormous amount

3028
01:59:54,270 --> 01:59:56,960
of money, they would say yes,

3029
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:57,664
ignoring the second and

3030
01:59:57,664 --> 01:59:59,866
third-order harms that come when

3031
01:59:59,866 --> 02:00:02,303
you put quantity over quality.

3032
02:00:02,303 --> 02:00:03,370
That's just one example, sir, of

3033
02:00:03,370 --> 02:00:03,970
the kinds of things you'll have

3034
02:00:03,970 --> 02:00:06,407
to police yourself in, because

3035
02:00:06,407 --> 02:00:08,810
we don't have a council that is

3036
02:00:08,810 --> 02:00:10,911
going to put issues of equal

3037
02:00:10,911 --> 02:00:12,212
justice, constitutional

3038
02:00:12,212 --> 02:00:12,946
concerns, or fiscal

3039
02:00:12,946 --> 02:00:14,946
responsibility --

3040
02:00:14,948 --> 02:00:16,483
>> wrap it up, council member.

3041
02:00:16,483 --> 02:00:17,418
>> because hey consider

3042
02:00:17,418 --> 02:00:18,752
anything less than complete

3043
02:00:18,752 --> 02:00:20,870
praise and worship to be

3044
02:00:20,870 --> 02:00:21,689
anti-police, which it isn't.

3045
02:00:21,689 --> 02:00:24,224
But that's who you've got to

3046
02:00:24,224 --> 02:00:25,920
work with, so good luck.

3047
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:26,627
>> well, thank you.

3048
02:00:26,627 --> 02:00:29,270
Thank you, council member

3049
02:00:29,163 --> 02:00:30,898
benavente, thank you, chief,

3050
02:00:30,898 --> 02:00:32,633
thank you to the citizens who

3051
02:00:32,633 --> 02:00:34,502
decide who sit up here, so when

3052
02:00:34,502 --> 02:00:35,403
they speak, that's what it is,

3053
02:00:35,403 --> 02:00:38,403
so thank you for that.

3054
02:00:42,309 --> 02:00:43,377
Council, I look to you for your

3055
02:00:43,377 --> 02:00:45,377
vote.

3056
02:00:45,446 --> 02:00:45,946
>> green.

3057
02:00:45,946 --> 02:00:47,214
>> all right.

3058
02:00:47,214 --> 02:00:48,615
All right, unanimous, motion to

3059
02:00:48,615 --> 02:00:49,116
adjourn?

3060
02:00:49,116 --> 02:00:51,116
>> all right.