1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:40,310 How are you? 2 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:58,630 I usually 3 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:36,710 What's he doing? 4 00:01:36,720 --> 00:02:15,750 Robin is three. 5 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,560 One page. 6 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:38,550 >> Just one page. 7 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:49,589 He doesn't have a packet though. 8 00:02:49,599 --> 00:03:09,110 Can I see what 9 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,599 » welcome to the board of alderman board 10 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:13,760 of adjustment meeting for August 18th, 11 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,440 2026. Six. 12 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,519 I'll call the order the meeting to 13 00:03:19,519 --> 00:03:21,599 order. 14 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:23,280 And if we would all stand for the pledge 15 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:42,470 of allegiance. 16 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,229 Come here Moose. 17 00:03:46,239 --> 00:03:49,680 Roll call please. 18 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,239 >> Chairperson Clauss 19 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:52,799 >> here. 20 00:03:52,799 --> 00:03:54,239 >> Vice Chairperson Phillips 21 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:54,720 >> here. 22 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,840 >> Member Mooney 23 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,239 >> here. 24 00:03:56,239 --> 00:03:57,360 >> Member Phillips Fig 25 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,280 >> here. Alternate member Crutz 26 00:03:59,280 --> 00:03:59,680 >> here. 27 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,760 >> We have five for a quorum. 28 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,710 >> Thank you. Um our city attorney. 29 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,480 » Um for the record, the proceedings in 30 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,080 tonight's meeting will be recorded by a 31 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,840 court reporter for future transcription 32 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,760 if needed. All speakers will be sworn in 33 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,519 before speaking. Please remember to 34 00:04:15,519 --> 00:04:17,519 speak directly into the microphone in a 35 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,280 clear voice and only address the board 36 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:21,440 at all times. No discussion between 37 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,960 parties will be permitted as the court 38 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,400 reporter will not be able to accurately 39 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,240 transcribe multiple persons talking at 40 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,560 once. The city code, all ordinances, and 41 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,000 the notice for tonight's public hearing 42 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,440 are present for review and made part of 43 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,360 the official record. For each petition, 44 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,880 the applicable application with all 45 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,320 submitted attachments, the city's 46 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,080 official denial of the permit requests 47 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,680 and the staff reporter also available 48 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,280 for review and made part of the official 49 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,360 record. Each applicant is reminded that 50 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,880 the burden of proof of the necessity of 51 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,960 the variance is on him or her. A 52 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,240 variance is granted to relieve 53 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,919 unnecessary hardship or a practical 54 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:51,280 difficulty in the way of carrying out 55 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:53,280 the strict letter of the municipal code 56 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:54,880 as determined from the facts presented 57 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,479 and is not to be construed to be setting 58 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:57,919 a precedent for future variance 59 00:04:57,919 --> 00:04:59,680 requests. The board will only consider 60 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,960 the nature and conditions of the 61 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,320 property and whether these factors 62 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 mandate a variance. The concurring vote 63 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,000 of four members of the board shall be 64 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,280 necessary to reverse any order 65 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,360 requirement decision or determination of 66 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,800 the community development director. 67 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Approval is subject to written 68 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,520 acceptance of the terms herein by the 69 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,360 petitional within 30 days after receipt 70 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,720 of the written notice of approval from 71 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,800 the city of Fenton. Board members may 72 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,320 ask questions to clarify the facts 73 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,080 presented. The applicant may request a 74 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,520 continuance at any time during the 75 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,199 hearing prior to a call for a vote to 76 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:27,120 bring in additional documentation. The 77 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,800 board may also request a continuance to 78 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,320 gather additional information or for 79 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,479 further visit to the site. 80 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:36,240 >> Thank you. Um there our petitioner is 81 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,840 not here and there are no no other 82 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:40,960 people in Zoom. 83 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,720 >> The petitioner is on Zoom. 84 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:43,120 >> What 85 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,080 >> petitioner is on Zoom? 86 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,840 >> Good. So is what as we would like you to 87 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:56,469 read um swear to the oath of testimony. 88 00:05:56,479 --> 00:05:58,080 Um, do you swear that the information 89 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,680 you will share here before this board 90 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,360 tonight is the truth and the whole truth 91 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,160 and the best of your knowledge? 92 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,440 >> Yes. 93 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,199 >> Thank you. We have 94 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:08,800 >> Can we just have him state his name for 95 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,680 the record, please? 96 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,199 >> Yes. Could you have your state your 97 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:13,520 name? Do we need an address? 98 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:13,840 >> No. 99 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,160 >> Yes. My name 100 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,160 >> My name is Daniel Sneed. with the 101 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Wallace Design Collective. And my 102 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,960 address here is 1703 Wandot Street, 103 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:32,230 Sweet 200 Kansas City, Missouri 64108. 104 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,039 » Hey, thank you. 105 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:34,639 >> Oh, and then I will take the oath as 106 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:36,639 well. Amy Stark, community development 107 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:41,670 director 108 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,560 » again. 109 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,639 >> Okay, this is for Amy. Do you swear that 110 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:45,919 the information you will share here 111 00:06:45,919 --> 00:06:47,600 before this board tonight is the truth, 112 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,199 the whole truth, and to the best of your 113 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:49,680 knowledge? 114 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,479 >> I do. 115 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:52,639 >> Thank you, Amy. 116 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:55,120 Next item is old business. We have no 117 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,240 old business. Next item is the new 118 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,720 business, Amy. 119 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,199 >> Yeah. Um, this is uh the subject 120 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:06,800 location is currently um operated as an 121 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,039 outdoor uh recreation facility. The 122 00:07:09,039 --> 00:07:10,960 petition tonight is a petition by Daniel 123 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Sneeed of Wallace Design Collective on 124 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,039 behalf of Shannon and Kyle Real Estate 125 00:07:15,039 --> 00:07:17,680 LLC, owners of Swing Around Funtown for 126 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,440 variances from the zoning code as 127 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,759 follows. Number one, from section 128 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:24,080 415080E2 129 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,120 and section 4302B 130 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,039 to encroach the required front buffer 131 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:31,280 area with an off- streetet parking area. 132 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,319 And number two, from section 415080E1, 133 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:38,240 to encroach the required front and rear 134 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,919 setbacks with existing structures 135 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:41,520 related to the principal use of the 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,039 property as an outdoor limited 137 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:45,039 recreation facility. The property is 138 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:47,440 addressed as 335 Skinker Drive and is 139 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,240 zoned OT2 Oldtown Commercial District. 140 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Um, as stated, this is uh currently um 141 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,199 developed as an outdoor recreation 142 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:57,520 facility known as Swingaround Funtown. 143 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,840 The site also includes an indoor uh 144 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,000 arcade and playground building and the 145 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,599 petitioner would like to expand this 146 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:05,680 building with an addition. And in order 147 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,440 to meet the parking requirements for the 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,680 use, the petitioner is also proposing a 149 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,080 parking lot expansion onto the lot to 150 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,720 the south that's shown as track two on 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,919 um this plat. Um they al the uh owners 152 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:22,240 of swing around Funtown also own this 153 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,800 lot. Um the parking lot expansion will 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,639 require a boundary adjustment plat to 155 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:29,120 consolidate the the two lots. So um 156 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,479 while reviewing the boundary adjustment 157 00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:32,399 plat, it was found that portions of the 158 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:35,440 existing go-kart track um the existing 159 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,640 go-kart maintenance building and the uh 160 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,800 mini golf course encroach the required 161 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,959 rear and front setbacks. So before the 162 00:08:42,959 --> 00:08:45,519 boundary adjustment can be approved, um 163 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,080 a variance from those uh encroachments 164 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,959 is required. It um should be noted that 165 00:08:50,959 --> 00:08:52,480 no changes are proposed to those 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,160 existing structures as part of the 167 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,160 overall um improvements that they're 168 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,560 planning. Um it's just uh for the 169 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,279 existing structures to encroach. Um it 170 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:04,080 was also noted that the um parking lot 171 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,600 will encroach the required um front 172 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,399 landscaped buffer area, but as stated in 173 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:12,480 your memo, changes to the buffer area 174 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,880 requirements uh for this district have 175 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,399 been proposed, and the planning and 176 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:18,320 zoning commission did recommend approval 177 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,480 of those amendments. So those amendments 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,320 will now go to the board of alderman at 179 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,399 their August 27th meeting for final 180 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,160 consideration of approval. And if 181 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,920 approved, this portion of the variance 182 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,480 request will not be will be moot. Um, 183 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,080 and that is noted in the conditions of 184 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,360 approval that they would it would no 185 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,470 longer be um, applicable. 186 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,080 » Mr. Speed, do you have something that 187 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,070 you would like to add? 188 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,040 » I I don't believe so at this time. Um, I 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,959 can answer any questions that anybody 190 00:09:48,959 --> 00:09:50,560 has. 191 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,240 >> Does anybody on the board have any 192 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,949 questions for Mr. Sme? 193 00:09:56,959 --> 00:09:59,040 » Yeah. 194 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,200 All right. Mike Mooney, I have a few 195 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,550 questions. Um, 196 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:10,720 regarding the um the new parking area, 197 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,200 um, do you have a drawing that shows 198 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,120 what it would look like if you did meet 199 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,829 our requirements for subpacks? 200 00:10:19,839 --> 00:10:22,160 » Um, I currently don't have that drawing. 201 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,910 Um, 202 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:26,560 it would 203 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:29,279 >> Okay. it would significantly reduce, you 204 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:30,959 know, the parking count that they 205 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:37,030 currently have. Um, 206 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,880 » just a comment from me. I I think the um 207 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,839 the existing go-kart track and the and 208 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:45,680 the kind of the north side of the lot 209 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:47,600 that's adjoins 210 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:53,040 ModOt rideway and then the part of that is uh basically at a dead end 211 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,279 street. Um that seems like um 212 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:00,000 reasonable, but I'd like to see what the 213 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,320 parking area would look like if you met 214 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,640 the 30 foot required um setback. 215 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,120 >> Yeah. So if you if you see what what's 216 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,120 up on the screen currently, that shows 217 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,120 the 30 foot setback. So if you can 218 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,680 imagine that drive aisle's got to push 219 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:20,160 back all the way um to that point. And 220 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:27,990 so you're going to lose another at least 221 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,160 probably maybe up to 16 parking stalls 222 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,600 additionally to uh to push that on back. 223 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Um currently what we're showing there is 224 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,519 uh pushing back the uh the edge of the 225 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:44,079 drive at least 10 ft from the property 226 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:46,959 line. Um, 227 00:11:46,959 --> 00:11:49,040 and additionally, there's some parking 228 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,440 lot that's actually into the ride ofway, 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,800 which will obviously be removed. Um, 230 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,800 we're adding new landscape islands that 231 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600 aren't currently in the parking lot. Uh, 232 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,279 which is going to make it, you know, appear a lot lot 233 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,120 better than just the sea of parking that 234 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,069 it is currently. 235 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:14,320 Is it possible to lose those islands 236 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,240 that you have if you had the proper 237 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,480 setback that would add some more spaces 238 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,959 to your lot? 239 00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:23,279 >> I mean, it it's not ideal for traffic 240 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:27,200 flow to not have islands. I mean, you would at least have to have a 241 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,480 painted island. Um, 242 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,279 you know, to protect cars from, you 243 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:36,399 know, turning around a parking lot. 244 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:39,200 What about extending uh that lot that's 245 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,639 in track two further 246 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:46,720 um to the east? So the problem with that 247 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,480 is the according to the international 248 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,519 fire code a fire truck will only go into 249 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:58,560 a dead end 150 ft. Um that's the maximum 250 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,839 that they'll back straight out of. um if 251 00:13:01,839 --> 00:13:03,519 you go farther than that, you have to 252 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:06,320 provide either a turnaround or some 253 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,360 other uh means of access out. And so we 254 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,440 looked at that and by the time you put 255 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,160 the turnaround in there, um you actually 256 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,240 lose more stalls than you can get. Plus, 257 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,760 we don't have a place for the trash 258 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,760 enclosure. Uh we also looked at, you 259 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,920 know, potentially seeing if they could, 260 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,560 you know, connect some outlet to the 261 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:31,200 property to the south. again that um it 262 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,200 doesn't really gain any more parking 263 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,399 stalls by the time you make that uh that 264 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:38,880 turn for a fire truck to be able to to 265 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:47,030 get out of that area. 266 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,160 That's that's all the questions I had. 267 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,880 >> Anybody else have any questions? 268 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,839 >> Yeah. Uh 269 00:13:53,839 --> 00:13:56,800 >> go ahead, George. I'd like to ask uh how 270 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,360 many you're you're uh putting an 271 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,800 addition on, correct? 272 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,880 >> Yeah, that's correct. Um if you 273 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,199 >> how many parking spaces are you losing 274 00:14:07,199 --> 00:14:10,320 because of the addition? 275 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,720 >> Um 276 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,279 actually, you're losing 13 of those 277 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:17,360 handicap spots. 278 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,360 >> Yeah, we're moving the handicap to the 279 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,920 south side of the building. Um pushing 280 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,880 the drive aisle closer to the building. 281 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 um already and losing those stalls along 282 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,800 the front. 283 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,800 >> Okay. So, so you're going to lose 12 284 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 along the front. 285 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,240 And then how many are you going to lose, 286 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,240 you think, with the islands in there? 287 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,959 >> Um I should pull up my drawing so I can 288 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:45,600 see the parking counts that we have. 289 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,120 They're on that drawing. I don't know if 290 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,320 you can pull that up, Amy, or not. 291 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Um the expanded parking lot um would re 292 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,079 uh provide 140 spaces 293 00:14:58,079 --> 00:15:00,399 >> total of 140. 294 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:02,639 >> That's correct. 295 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:04,480 >> How many are there now? 296 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,040 >> Um currently um I don't know uh how many 297 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,040 are currently on the lot. Um but the the 298 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,480 use would require um 127. 299 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,600 >> Current currently there's 119. 300 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Well, my thing is uh okay, how many are 301 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,440 you going to gain in the uh new area on 302 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:35,829 track two? 303 00:15:35,839 --> 00:15:37,440 » Sure. 304 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,320 >> Yeah. So, 305 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,199 I mean we have we have like the total 306 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:45,279 provided in what you see in front of you 307 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,720 is 140. I don't have the numbers of like 308 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,000 how many are being removed from one area 309 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 and how many are being added in the new 310 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,000 area. Um 311 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 >> yeah, my thing is I was just wondering 312 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,320 if you if you would meet all the 313 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,560 requirements 314 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,360 without that last row there 315 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:15,670 as far as the new parking on track two. 316 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Um, yeah, like I said, it 317 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,480 without those 318 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,160 >> without which I'm sorry, without which 319 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:22,720 parking? 320 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,800 >> Oh, the ones I guess it would be on the 321 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,480 south side of track two. 322 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,600 >> So, so against the other buildings, 323 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,639 the new parking spot. 324 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:40,399 >> Are you talking about these here? 325 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:41,040 >> Yeah. 326 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 If they remove those, they would 327 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,480 not meet the minimum parking 328 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,160 requirements for the use. No. Okay. 329 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,320 >> Okay. 330 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,079 >> Why would those need to be removed on 331 00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:54,480 the south side? Those are those are 332 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,710 outside of the setback. 333 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,480 It's just the ones on the west side of 334 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,720 the property that are in question. 335 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,559 >> Yeah. The ones that would encroach would 336 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:07,919 be anything within this area here. And 337 00:17:07,919 --> 00:17:11,280 again with should if the amendments the 338 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,880 proposed amendments are approved next 339 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,799 week by the board of alderman this 340 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:16,319 parking lot will be in compliance and 341 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:17,760 there will be no issue with the parking 342 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,959 lot at all. 343 00:17:18,959 --> 00:17:19,360 >> Okay. 344 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:21,760 >> And so then the the only variances that 345 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,000 would be needed would be these um 346 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,319 existing 347 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,240 structures. 348 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,720 >> I thought I thought that they were going 349 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,559 to 350 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:34,640 need permission on this other side too, 351 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,480 but I was wrong. Oh, and that would be 352 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,039 if if the amendments don't pass. Um, and 353 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:41,360 since 354 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,760 they haven't yet, that is included. 355 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,120 >> And just so you know, that one of the 356 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,799 reasons that Amy proposed these 357 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:48,320 amendments was she actually did a study 358 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,039 of the area. Um, and there is only one 359 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:53,039 property in all of those districts that 360 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:56,400 actually currently meets that 361 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,080 actually. 362 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,520 Um so that is the reason the board of 363 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,960 all the planning and zoning commission 364 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,720 unanimously recommended approval and it 365 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,919 did go through the committee meeting at 366 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:06,000 the board of alderman as well is because 367 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:16,549 there are not 368 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:18,880 the reason the the amendments are 369 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,240 proposed. 370 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,080 >> Thank you. Any other questions? Any more 371 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,360 discussion? 372 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,440 >> Am I misunderstanding? They want street 373 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,200 parking or they just want the gravel 374 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,640 area for parking. 375 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,320 >> No, they're going to expand the parking 376 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,320 lot. So, they will be where the gravel 377 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,360 is now. 378 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,520 >> Correct. Yeah, that is on a separate 379 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,720 lot. So, they'll need to combine the 380 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,360 lots through a boundary adjustment and 381 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,039 we have to address the variances before 382 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:42,880 the boundary adjustment could be 383 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,470 approved. 384 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:54,000 » Hearing no other discussions. Um so um 385 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,520 Mr. Sneed the current proposal is for 386 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,430 section 415.080E 387 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,559 and one for existing structures related 388 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:06,240 to the principal use of the property for 389 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,880 an outdoor limited recreation facility 390 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,039 to encroach on the required front and 391 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:16,630 rear setbacks. and section 415. 392 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,559 080E2 393 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:23,669 the section 430.020B 394 00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:24,880 for off- streetet parking to the 395 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,679 encroach the front area. Would you do 396 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:30,400 you agree should the board agree to 397 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,160 approve the request for the varian staff 398 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,600 suggests not less than the following 399 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,640 conditions of approval to be considered. 400 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Number one, this approval is solely for 401 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,400 the variance for the following sections 402 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,320 of zoning code related to the proposed 403 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,000 boundary adjustment for 335 Sinker Lane 404 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,400 A section 415.080E1 080E1 405 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,080 for 16 structures related to the 406 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,679 principal use of the property as the 407 00:19:53,679 --> 00:19:55,919 outdoor limited recreation facility to 408 00:19:55,919 --> 00:19:58,320 encroach on the required front and rear 409 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,400 setbacks as indicated on the site plan 410 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,000 submitted with the application dated 411 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,919 July 22nd 412 00:20:03,919 --> 00:20:09,520 2026 and B section 415.080E2 080 413 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,950 E2 and section 430.020B 414 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:22,480 for off- streetet parking area to encroach the front 415 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 buffer area creating a 10-ft buffer 416 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,640 area. Do the amendments to the buffer 417 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,159 area requirement for the Oldtown 418 00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:30,320 commercial district be be approved under 419 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:36,159 case 2000 2026 TXT 08? This portion of 420 00:20:36,159 --> 00:20:38,080 the variance would request shall be null 421 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,000 and void. If the proposed boundary 422 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,760 adjustment plate be approved by the city 423 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,080 and not recorded by the St. Louis County 424 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,760 recorder of deeds of office within 90 425 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,240 days, this approval of variance will be 426 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,400 deemed null and void. Compliance with 427 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,799 all other applicical city of Fenton 428 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:56,880 codes. Do you agree to these 429 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,559 Mr. Sneed? 430 00:20:58,559 --> 00:20:59,360 >> Yes. 431 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,120 >> Okay. 432 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:05,840 So, we vote. So, we would do do you do 433 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,640 that or 434 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,240 >> Well, uh, someone would need to make a 435 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,280 motion and a second, 436 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,400 >> Mr. Cuts. 437 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,760 >> I'll make a motion that we approve it as it's set out. 438 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:23,029 >> Okay. A second. 439 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:25,280 » All in favor? Roll call. 440 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,320 >> Roll call. Sorry. 441 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,840 >> That's okay. Um, uh, member Crutz. 442 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,799 >> Yes. 443 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:32,559 >> Me. Member Phillips Pig. 444 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,559 >> Hi. Chairperson Clauss 445 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:34,960 >> I. 446 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,400 >> Vice Chairperson Phillips 447 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,039 >> I. 448 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:38,240 >> Member Mooney. 449 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,880 >> I. 450 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,789 >> Motion approved. 451 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:44,480 » Thank you, Mr. Steed. We appreciate you 452 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,679 coming joining us to Zoom. 453 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:48,080 >> Thank you. 454 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,240 >> Yeah, no problem. Thank you so much. 455 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:50,960 Have a good night. 456 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,960 >> Our next order of business is approval 457 00:21:52,960 --> 00:22:01,110 of minutes. I need a motion. 458 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:03,360 » Minutes. Thank you, George. And a 459 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:04,480 second. Second. 460 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,880 >> Fig will second. 461 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,600 >> Okay. Uh vice chairperson Phillips. 462 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,240 >> I. 463 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,000 >> Member Phillips Fig. 464 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,679 >> I. Chairperson Claus. 465 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:14,799 >> I. 466 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:15,840 >> Member Mooney. 467 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,240 >> I. 468 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,760 >> Member Kutz. 469 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,240 >> I. 470 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,990 >> Motion approved. 471 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,679 » We have no other business. So we can con 472 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:30,640 have a motion to close the meeting. 473 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,799 Mr. Cruds. 474 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:35,120 >> I'll make that motion to to uh 475 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:35,919 >> close the meeting. 476 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:36,799 >> I'll second. 477 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:39,440 >> George seconds the motion. 478 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,679 >> All right. Member Kretz. 479 00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:42,080 >> I. 480 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,320 >> Vice chairperson Phillips. 481 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:44,720 >> Hi. 482 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,840 >> Chairperson Claus. 483 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,240 >> Hi. 484 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,280 >> Member Mooney. 485 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,760 >> Hi. 486 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,280 >> Member Phyllis Pig. Hi. 487 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,440 >> We are adjourned. 488 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,679 >> Thank you.