[0:00] How are you?
[0:40] I usually
[0:58] What's he doing?
[1:36] Robin is three.
[2:15] One page.
[2:16] >> Just one page.
[2:38] He doesn't have a packet though.
[2:49] Can I see what
[3:09] » welcome to the board of alderman board
[3:11] of adjustment meeting for August 18th,
[3:13] 2026. Six.
[3:17] I'll call the order the meeting to
[3:19] order.
[3:21] And if we would all stand for the pledge
[3:23] of allegiance.
[3:42] Come here Moose.
[3:46] Roll call please.
[3:49] >> Chairperson Clauss
[3:52] >> here.
[3:52] >> Vice Chairperson Phillips
[3:54] >> here.
[3:54] >> Member Mooney
[3:55] >> here.
[3:56] >> Member Phillips Fig
[3:57] >> here. Alternate member Crutz
[3:59] >> here.
[3:59] >> We have five for a quorum.
[4:01] >> Thank you. Um our city attorney.
[4:06] » Um for the record, the proceedings in
[4:08] tonight's meeting will be recorded by a
[4:10] court reporter for future transcription
[4:11] if needed. All speakers will be sworn in
[4:13] before speaking. Please remember to
[4:15] speak directly into the microphone in a
[4:17] clear voice and only address the board
[4:19] at all times. No discussion between
[4:21] parties will be permitted as the court
[4:22] reporter will not be able to accurately
[4:24] transcribe multiple persons talking at
[4:26] once. The city code, all ordinances, and
[4:28] the notice for tonight's public hearing
[4:30] are present for review and made part of
[4:31] the official record. For each petition,
[4:33] the applicable application with all
[4:34] submitted attachments, the city's
[4:36] official denial of the permit requests
[4:38] and the staff reporter also available
[4:39] for review and made part of the official
[4:41] record. Each applicant is reminded that
[4:43] the burden of proof of the necessity of
[4:44] the variance is on him or her. A
[4:46] variance is granted to relieve
[4:48] unnecessary hardship or a practical
[4:49] difficulty in the way of carrying out
[4:51] the strict letter of the municipal code
[4:53] as determined from the facts presented
[4:54] and is not to be construed to be setting
[4:56] a precedent for future variance
[4:57] requests. The board will only consider
[4:59] the nature and conditions of the
[5:00] property and whether these factors
[5:02] mandate a variance. The concurring vote
[5:04] of four members of the board shall be
[5:06] necessary to reverse any order
[5:07] requirement decision or determination of
[5:09] the community development director.
[5:10] Approval is subject to written
[5:12] acceptance of the terms herein by the
[5:13] petitional within 30 days after receipt
[5:15] of the written notice of approval from
[5:16] the city of Fenton. Board members may
[5:18] ask questions to clarify the facts
[5:20] presented. The applicant may request a
[5:22] continuance at any time during the
[5:23] hearing prior to a call for a vote to
[5:25] bring in additional documentation. The
[5:27] board may also request a continuance to
[5:28] gather additional information or for
[5:30] further visit to the site.
[5:32] >> Thank you. Um there our petitioner is
[5:36] not here and there are no no other
[5:39] people in Zoom.
[5:40] >> The petitioner is on Zoom.
[5:42] >> What
[5:43] >> petitioner is on Zoom?
[5:46] >> Good. So is what as we would like you to
[5:49] read um swear to the oath of testimony.
[5:56] Um, do you swear that the information
[5:58] you will share here before this board
[5:59] tonight is the truth and the whole truth
[6:01] and the best of your knowledge?
[6:04] >> Yes.
[6:05] >> Thank you. We have
[6:07] >> Can we just have him state his name for
[6:08] the record, please?
[6:09] >> Yes. Could you have your state your
[6:11] name? Do we need an address?
[6:13] >> No.
[6:13] >> Yes. My name
[6:16] >> My name is Daniel Sneed. with the
[6:18] Wallace Design Collective. And my
[6:20] address here is 1703 Wandot Street,
[6:24] Sweet 200 Kansas City, Missouri 64108.
[6:32] » Hey, thank you.
[6:33] >> Oh, and then I will take the oath as
[6:34] well. Amy Stark, community development
[6:36] director
[6:41] » again.
[6:42] >> Okay, this is for Amy. Do you swear that
[6:44] the information you will share here
[6:45] before this board tonight is the truth,
[6:47] the whole truth, and to the best of your
[6:49] knowledge?
[6:49] >> I do.
[6:50] >> Thank you, Amy.
[6:52] Next item is old business. We have no
[6:55] old business. Next item is the new
[6:58] business, Amy.
[7:00] >> Yeah. Um, this is uh the subject
[7:03] location is currently um operated as an
[7:06] outdoor uh recreation facility. The
[7:09] petition tonight is a petition by Daniel
[7:10] Sneeed of Wallace Design Collective on
[7:12] behalf of Shannon and Kyle Real Estate
[7:15] LLC, owners of Swing Around Funtown for
[7:17] variances from the zoning code as
[7:19] follows. Number one, from section
[7:21] 415080E2
[7:24] and section 4302B
[7:27] to encroach the required front buffer
[7:29] area with an off- streetet parking area.
[7:31] And number two, from section 415080E1,
[7:36] to encroach the required front and rear
[7:38] setbacks with existing structures
[7:39] related to the principal use of the
[7:41] property as an outdoor limited
[7:43] recreation facility. The property is
[7:45] addressed as 335 Skinker Drive and is
[7:47] zoned OT2 Oldtown Commercial District.
[7:50] Um, as stated, this is uh currently um
[7:53] developed as an outdoor recreation
[7:55] facility known as Swingaround Funtown.
[7:57] The site also includes an indoor uh
[7:59] arcade and playground building and the
[8:02] petitioner would like to expand this
[8:03] building with an addition. And in order
[8:05] to meet the parking requirements for the
[8:07] use, the petitioner is also proposing a
[8:09] parking lot expansion onto the lot to
[8:12] the south that's shown as track two on
[8:14] um this plat. Um they al the uh owners
[8:19] of swing around Funtown also own this
[8:22] lot. Um the parking lot expansion will
[8:24] require a boundary adjustment plat to
[8:26] consolidate the the two lots. So um
[8:29] while reviewing the boundary adjustment
[8:30] plat, it was found that portions of the
[8:32] existing go-kart track um the existing
[8:35] go-kart maintenance building and the uh
[8:38] mini golf course encroach the required
[8:40] rear and front setbacks. So before the
[8:42] boundary adjustment can be approved, um
[8:45] a variance from those uh encroachments
[8:48] is required. It um should be noted that
[8:50] no changes are proposed to those
[8:52] existing structures as part of the
[8:54] overall um improvements that they're
[8:56] planning. Um it's just uh for the
[8:58] existing structures to encroach. Um it
[9:01] was also noted that the um parking lot
[9:04] will encroach the required um front
[9:07] landscaped buffer area, but as stated in
[9:10] your memo, changes to the buffer area
[9:12] requirements uh for this district have
[9:14] been proposed, and the planning and
[9:16] zoning commission did recommend approval
[9:18] of those amendments. So those amendments
[9:20] will now go to the board of alderman at
[9:22] their August 27th meeting for final
[9:24] consideration of approval. And if
[9:26] approved, this portion of the variance
[9:27] request will not be will be moot. Um,
[9:30] and that is noted in the conditions of
[9:32] approval that they would it would no
[9:33] longer be um, applicable.
[9:38] » Mr. Speed, do you have something that
[9:40] you would like to add?
[9:44] » I I don't believe so at this time. Um, I
[9:47] can answer any questions that anybody
[9:48] has.
[9:50] >> Does anybody on the board have any
[9:52] questions for Mr. Sme?
[9:56] » Yeah.
[9:59] All right. Mike Mooney, I have a few
[10:01] questions. Um,
[10:06] regarding the um the new parking area,
[10:10] um, do you have a drawing that shows
[10:13] what it would look like if you did meet
[10:15] our requirements for subpacks?
[10:19] » Um, I currently don't have that drawing.
[10:22] Um,
[10:25] it would
[10:26] >> Okay. it would significantly reduce, you
[10:29] know, the parking count that they
[10:30] currently have. Um,
[10:37] » just a comment from me. I I think the um
[10:40] the existing go-kart track and the and
[10:43] the kind of the north side of the lot
[10:45] that's adjoins
[10:47] ModOt rideway and then the part of that is uh basically at a dead end
[10:53] street. Um that seems like um
[10:57] reasonable, but I'd like to see what the
[11:00] parking area would look like if you met
[11:02] the 30 foot required um setback.
[11:06] >> Yeah. So if you if you see what what's
[11:09] up on the screen currently, that shows
[11:11] the 30 foot setback. So if you can
[11:13] imagine that drive aisle's got to push
[11:15] back all the way um to that point. And
[11:20] so you're going to lose another at least
[11:28] probably maybe up to 16 parking stalls
[11:32] additionally to uh to push that on back.
[11:35] Um currently what we're showing there is
[11:38] uh pushing back the uh the edge of the
[11:41] drive at least 10 ft from the property
[11:44] line. Um,
[11:46] and additionally, there's some parking
[11:49] lot that's actually into the ride ofway,
[11:51] which will obviously be removed. Um,
[11:54] we're adding new landscape islands that
[11:56] aren't currently in the parking lot. Uh,
[11:59] which is going to make it, you know, appear a lot lot
[12:05] better than just the sea of parking that
[12:07] it is currently.
[12:12] Is it possible to lose those islands
[12:14] that you have if you had the proper
[12:16] setback that would add some more spaces
[12:18] to your lot?
[12:20] >> I mean, it it's not ideal for traffic
[12:23] flow to not have islands. I mean, you would at least have to have a
[12:27] painted island. Um,
[12:30] you know, to protect cars from, you
[12:33] know, turning around a parking lot.
[12:36] What about extending uh that lot that's
[12:39] in track two further
[12:42] um to the east? So the problem with that
[12:46] is the according to the international
[12:50] fire code a fire truck will only go into
[12:53] a dead end 150 ft. Um that's the maximum
[12:58] that they'll back straight out of. um if
[13:01] you go farther than that, you have to
[13:03] provide either a turnaround or some
[13:06] other uh means of access out. And so we
[13:09] looked at that and by the time you put
[13:11] the turnaround in there, um you actually
[13:14] lose more stalls than you can get. Plus,
[13:16] we don't have a place for the trash
[13:17] enclosure. Uh we also looked at, you
[13:21] know, potentially seeing if they could,
[13:23] you know, connect some outlet to the
[13:26] property to the south. again that um it
[13:31] doesn't really gain any more parking
[13:33] stalls by the time you make that uh that
[13:36] turn for a fire truck to be able to to
[13:38] get out of that area.
[13:47] That's that's all the questions I had.
[13:50] >> Anybody else have any questions?
[13:52] >> Yeah. Uh
[13:53] >> go ahead, George. I'd like to ask uh how
[13:56] many you're you're uh putting an
[13:59] addition on, correct?
[14:02] >> Yeah, that's correct. Um if you
[14:04] >> how many parking spaces are you losing
[14:07] because of the addition?
[14:10] >> Um
[14:12] actually, you're losing 13 of those
[14:15] handicap spots.
[14:17] >> Yeah, we're moving the handicap to the
[14:19] south side of the building. Um pushing
[14:21] the drive aisle closer to the building.
[14:24] um already and losing those stalls along
[14:27] the front.
[14:28] >> Okay. So, so you're going to lose 12
[14:30] along the front.
[14:33] And then how many are you going to lose,
[14:36] you think, with the islands in there?
[14:40] >> Um I should pull up my drawing so I can
[14:42] see the parking counts that we have.
[14:45] They're on that drawing. I don't know if
[14:47] you can pull that up, Amy, or not.
[14:50] Um the expanded parking lot um would re
[14:54] uh provide 140 spaces
[14:58] >> total of 140.
[15:00] >> That's correct.
[15:02] >> How many are there now?
[15:04] >> Um currently um I don't know uh how many
[15:09] are currently on the lot. Um but the the
[15:11] use would require um 127.
[15:14] >> Current currently there's 119.
[15:17] Well, my thing is uh okay, how many are
[15:21] you going to gain in the uh new area on
[15:25] track two?
[15:35] » Sure.
[15:37] >> Yeah. So,
[15:40] I mean we have we have like the total
[15:43] provided in what you see in front of you
[15:45] is 140. I don't have the numbers of like
[15:48] how many are being removed from one area
[15:52] and how many are being added in the new
[15:54] area. Um
[15:58] >> yeah, my thing is I was just wondering
[16:00] if you if you would meet all the
[16:02] requirements
[16:04] without that last row there
[16:09] as far as the new parking on track two.
[16:15] Um, yeah, like I said, it
[16:19] without those
[16:20] >> without which I'm sorry, without which
[16:22] parking?
[16:22] >> Oh, the ones I guess it would be on the
[16:24] south side of track two.
[16:28] >> So, so against the other buildings,
[16:33] the new parking spot.
[16:36] >> Are you talking about these here?
[16:40] >> Yeah.
[16:41] If they remove those, they would
[16:43] not meet the minimum parking
[16:44] requirements for the use. No. Okay.
[16:48] >> Okay.
[16:50] >> Why would those need to be removed on
[16:52] the south side? Those are those are
[16:54] outside of the setback.
[16:58] It's just the ones on the west side of
[17:00] the property that are in question.
[17:02] >> Yeah. The ones that would encroach would
[17:04] be anything within this area here. And
[17:07] again with should if the amendments the
[17:11] proposed amendments are approved next
[17:12] week by the board of alderman this
[17:14] parking lot will be in compliance and
[17:16] there will be no issue with the parking
[17:17] lot at all.
[17:18] >> Okay.
[17:19] >> And so then the the only variances that
[17:21] would be needed would be these um
[17:24] existing
[17:26] structures.
[17:28] >> I thought I thought that they were going
[17:30] to
[17:32] need permission on this other side too,
[17:34] but I was wrong. Oh, and that would be
[17:36] if if the amendments don't pass. Um, and
[17:39] since
[17:41] they haven't yet, that is included.
[17:43] >> And just so you know, that one of the
[17:45] reasons that Amy proposed these
[17:46] amendments was she actually did a study
[17:48] of the area. Um, and there is only one
[17:51] property in all of those districts that
[17:53] actually currently meets that
[17:56] actually.
[17:58] Um so that is the reason the board of
[17:59] all the planning and zoning commission
[18:00] unanimously recommended approval and it
[18:02] did go through the committee meeting at
[18:03] the board of alderman as well is because
[18:06] there are not
[18:16] the reason the the amendments are
[18:18] proposed.
[18:20] >> Thank you. Any other questions? Any more
[18:22] discussion?
[18:23] >> Am I misunderstanding? They want street
[18:25] parking or they just want the gravel
[18:27] area for parking.
[18:28] >> No, they're going to expand the parking
[18:30] lot. So, they will be where the gravel
[18:32] is now.
[18:33] >> Correct. Yeah, that is on a separate
[18:35] lot. So, they'll need to combine the
[18:36] lots through a boundary adjustment and
[18:39] we have to address the variances before
[18:41] the boundary adjustment could be
[18:42] approved.
[18:48] » Hearing no other discussions. Um so um
[18:54] Mr. Sneed the current proposal is for
[18:57] section 415.080E
[19:01] and one for existing structures related
[19:04] to the principal use of the property for
[19:06] an outdoor limited recreation facility
[19:08] to encroach on the required front and
[19:11] rear setbacks. and section 415.
[19:16] 080E2
[19:18] the section 430.020B
[19:23] for off- streetet parking to the
[19:24] encroach the front area. Would you do
[19:27] you agree should the board agree to
[19:30] approve the request for the varian staff
[19:32] suggests not less than the following
[19:33] conditions of approval to be considered.
[19:36] Number one, this approval is solely for
[19:38] the variance for the following sections
[19:40] of zoning code related to the proposed
[19:42] boundary adjustment for 335 Sinker Lane
[19:46] A section 415.080E1 080E1
[19:50] for 16 structures related to the
[19:52] principal use of the property as the
[19:53] outdoor limited recreation facility to
[19:55] encroach on the required front and rear
[19:58] setbacks as indicated on the site plan
[20:00] submitted with the application dated
[20:02] July 22nd
[20:03] 2026 and B section 415.080E2 080
[20:09] E2 and section 430.020B
[20:14] for off- streetet parking area to encroach the front
[20:22] buffer area creating a 10-ft buffer
[20:24] area. Do the amendments to the buffer
[20:26] area requirement for the Oldtown
[20:28] commercial district be be approved under
[20:30] case 2000 2026 TXT 08? This portion of
[20:36] the variance would request shall be null
[20:38] and void. If the proposed boundary
[20:40] adjustment plate be approved by the city
[20:41] and not recorded by the St. Louis County
[20:44] recorder of deeds of office within 90
[20:45] days, this approval of variance will be
[20:48] deemed null and void. Compliance with
[20:50] all other applicical city of Fenton
[20:52] codes. Do you agree to these
[20:56] Mr. Sneed?
[20:58] >> Yes.
[20:59] >> Okay.
[21:01] So, we vote. So, we would do do you do
[21:05] that or
[21:06] >> Well, uh, someone would need to make a
[21:08] motion and a second,
[21:11] >> Mr. Cuts.
[21:12] >> I'll make a motion that we approve it as it's set out.
[21:17] >> Okay. A second.
[21:23] » All in favor? Roll call.
[21:25] >> Roll call. Sorry.
[21:26] >> That's okay. Um, uh, member Crutz.
[21:29] >> Yes.
[21:30] >> Me. Member Phillips Pig.
[21:32] >> Hi. Chairperson Clauss
[21:34] >> I.
[21:34] >> Vice Chairperson Phillips
[21:36] >> I.
[21:37] >> Member Mooney.
[21:38] >> I.
[21:38] >> Motion approved.
[21:42] » Thank you, Mr. Steed. We appreciate you
[21:44] coming joining us to Zoom.
[21:47] >> Thank you.
[21:48] >> Yeah, no problem. Thank you so much.
[21:50] Have a good night.
[21:50] >> Our next order of business is approval
[21:52] of minutes. I need a motion.
[22:01] » Minutes. Thank you, George. And a
[22:03] second. Second.
[22:04] >> Fig will second.
[22:06] >> Okay. Uh vice chairperson Phillips.
[22:09] >> I.
[22:10] >> Member Phillips Fig.
[22:12] >> I. Chairperson Claus.
[22:13] >> I.
[22:14] >> Member Mooney.
[22:15] >> I.
[22:16] >> Member Kutz.
[22:17] >> I.
[22:18] >> Motion approved.
[22:22] » We have no other business. So we can con
[22:25] have a motion to close the meeting.
[22:30] Mr. Cruds.
[22:32] >> I'll make that motion to to uh
[22:35] >> close the meeting.
[22:35] >> I'll second.
[22:36] >> George seconds the motion.
[22:39] >> All right. Member Kretz.
[22:41] >> I.
[22:42] >> Vice chairperson Phillips.
[22:44] >> Hi.
[22:44] >> Chairperson Claus.
[22:45] >> Hi.
[22:46] >> Member Mooney.
[22:47] >> Hi.
[22:47] >> Member Phyllis Pig. Hi.
[22:49] >> We are adjourned.
[22:51] >> Thank you.