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will lead us in the pledge of

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allegiance.

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If you would, please all stands.

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privilege to be here ith you

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all this morning.

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It is good to give thanks to our

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Let us pray.

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Good morning, dear lord.

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It's gratitude we gather this

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morning in your presence seeking

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your wisdom, seeking your

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understanding and your patients

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as deliberations are held and

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choices are made.

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unique position of leadership

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for which we do not take for

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granted but in all humility use

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and service o lift up all

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We ask you to guide us this day

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and May we find comfort and

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strength to your steadfast love

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and commitment to us and we ask

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you to bless all present here

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this morning.

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In your son's heavenly name,

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amen.

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>> please join me for the pledge

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of allegiance.

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>> I pledge the allegiance to

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the flag of the united states of

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america and to the republic for

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which it stands, one nation,

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under God, indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> thank you.

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>> the first is the adoption of

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the minutes from the regular

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>> I make a motion.

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>> Chair Davis: we have a motion

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many

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motion, is there a second.

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Hearing none, all a

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approved by

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saying aye.

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>> next are the administration

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items.

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We have ba-1 through ba-3.

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those items.

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>> so moved.

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>> Chair Davis: we have a motion

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and a second for items ba-1

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through 3.

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I'll approve by saying aye.

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It's unanimous.

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>> next is archives and history.

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>> so moved.

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>> Chair Davis: we have a

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motion.

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>> second.

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>> motion and a second.

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>> next we have the baldwin

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regional area transit system.

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those two items.

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commissioner gruber a chance.

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>> Chair Davis: we got a motion.

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Skip is going to second it.

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>> I make a motion e approve.

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motion.

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>> Chair Davis: and a second.

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About what we're laughing about

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is the chair cannot make a

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motion or a second.

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Everybody gets to try to jump in

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and y'all heard and please

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understand for our audience here

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particularly our young people,

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they have been vetted by our

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department heads and we've been

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brought in on various points of

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anything, we're just moving

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things that are outine.

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if not, all in favor signify by

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saying aye.

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>> we have bl-1.

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>> Chair Davis: I got a motion

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and a second on environmental

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items.

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those 16 items.

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>> I make a motion we approve.

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and a second dealing with our

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highway item.

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Unanimous.

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approval.

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second.

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>> Chair Davis: we have a motion

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signify by saying aye.

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discussed in the ork session

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and we'll bring it back to the

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regular eetings so no action is

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necessary on br-1.

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>> Chair Davis: all right.

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>> it brings us to presentation

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and we have a presentation under

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ca-1 which is the highway

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department fiscal year 2020

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year-end progress report.

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I believe Mr. Nunley is in the

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audience to present this

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presentation to he commission.

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>> thank you.

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So, obviously this is going to

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be our year-end presentation and

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of course, when we say year-end

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we're talking about up through

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the end of September of 2020

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because our ears run on

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physical years, which mean our

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plan, construct, maintain roads,

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bridges and parks for the safe,

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efficient

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parks for the safetyand efficiently.

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what this county has gone from

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increased and our bridges have

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increased dramatically.

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where the different funds come

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comes from gas-tax and 47% comes

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from intergovernmental which is

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the majority of that will be an

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ad valorem tax.

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balance which is basically just

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under runs of different projects

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from the previous year and other

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revenues going to be things like

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taxes and fees and stuff so it's

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a very small percentage.

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what the effect of covid had on

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projects we're working budgeted

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funds and the actual funds

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registration or gas-tax, six

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cents gas-tax and it came, the

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four cents came in low and the

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others came in about right.

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rebuild alabama gas-tax act.

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the work session about grants.

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grants coordinator.

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restore, the second one is our

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federal aid or federal aid

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exchange fund and all these are

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alternative, the aid is

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accelerated innovative

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hsip, ewp, and we have the

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craft fund, emergency repairs

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fund about 80% and it will fund

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800,000 and the county has to

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pitch in the other 20% which

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projects into the six or eight

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different types, resurfacing,

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safety improvements, and park

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the year and we do our best to

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stay on those goals and meet

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what our goals were.

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our goal to resurface and we

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completed with that and

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8.69 miles and it was 90%

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complete.

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This is just a map of showing

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where those resurfacing projects

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were.

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Just a few pictures of what

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we've done and this is ferry

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road.

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if if you notice in the

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top-left.

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The rebuild alabama was up there

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and it was any time the projects

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were funded by a grant, that we

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applied for and got.

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There's a tab showing you what

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grant that was and it was reboot

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and and got.

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The next goal was our dirt road

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paving projects.

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Our goal was to pave 13.55 miles

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and we had a few things going on

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with covid and hurricane sally

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so we were only able to complete

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28 of our goals.

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There's a few rojects gap

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weekly and north county road 27

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juniper street north.

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Miller lane.

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Poser road.

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Brewer road.

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And this is just a schedule of

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roads that were either -- that

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we've start that haven't been

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completed.

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You could see ben der, royal,

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they were all started as of

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10-1-20.

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A couple of those have been

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completed since that day and

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specifically hug bee and the

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others, kings landing have not

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been started yet.

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As far as bring projects go.

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It was to complete four bridge

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projects and to begin

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construction on two and we were

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able to complete three and begin

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construction on two so we're

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about 83% on that goal.

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Couple of pictures of the

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bridges is going to be county

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road 9.

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>> this is county road 9.

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This is fred douger road.

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That bridge is in progress right

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now and should be completed

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within another month, month and

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a half.

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and this one is he whole prior

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is over bushy creek east and

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this one is also under

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construction as we speak.

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Len home road was in progress at

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the end of 2020's physical year

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but it actually is complete now.

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The next two are going to be.

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This is county road 65 bridge

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over turkey branch.

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And dock mack duffy road bridge

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over wolf creek.

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Both of those bridges are

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included in this grant and we

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let them both, the projects have

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been awarded and the contractor

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should be started soon.

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New road construction.

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Our goal was to secure funding

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begin right away and the beach

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express 2, that was all part of

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the bill that ended up not

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passing the vote.

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We are now looking for different

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avs

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avenues for sources since the

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vote did not pass.

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Our safety improvement projects.

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Our goal was to complete three

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projects and complete

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construction on tonight we were two.

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One project was under

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construction and one in design.

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This was a guardrail project and

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this again was another grant

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that we put in for high-risk,

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rural roads.

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We call it the hrrr grant.

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We were successful in getting

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those funds and updated our

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guardrails.

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This was martin lane, we widened

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it out.

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County road 65 we put up a

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four-way stop.

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We are able to put up a signal

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at county road 28.

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This was a joint effort with

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multi agencies.

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Between us and ummerdale and

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aldot.

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This is a signal south side of

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fairhope and this was funded

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through the eastern shore M.P.O.

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As far as capacity improvements,

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the goal was to begin design on

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one project and we have one in

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design and it's county road 64

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widening projects and it's one

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we have in design and it's

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widening 64 to three lanes all

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the way from 181 down to

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monalucia way.

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We had one site complete and one

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site under construction and one

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site got postponed.

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Drainage improvement was this

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one on county road 1.

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The pond on fernwood drive,

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which was a huge regional

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detention pond that as of the

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end of the physical year, it was

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not omplete but it actually is

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complete now.

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Park improvement projects, the

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goal was to complete

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construction on four projects.

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And we did all four of those.

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Those projects included the

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property acquisition of the

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inter coastal waterway boast

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launch under design and should

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let out to construction.

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We replaced the boardwalk at

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morgan town.

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We put some bathrooms at the

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bicentennial park.

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And these bridges, these

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pedestrian bridges on the

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on the scenic

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98, four or five were in bad

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00:17:00,768 --> 00:17:03,704
need of repair and we ere able

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to repair fly creek, red gully,

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rock creek and this is over an

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unmarked bridge.

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So from the maintenance acility

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standpoint, again, this makes up

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about 19% of our budgets and our

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maintenance facilities are

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broken down into three years.

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100 in the.

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>> heather: and 200 in thenorth and 200 in the

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south and traffic covers the

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whole county.

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Our goals are processed timely

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and to ensure annual by annual

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inspections are performed on all

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roadways.

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You can see it was a busy year.

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We received 2,839 work orders

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00:17:49,984 --> 00:17:50,785
and we were able to complete

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2,648 of those.

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We inspected 176 dirt roads and

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1,381 paved roads.

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Our nighttime inspections are

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done every year so we did not do

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those this year.

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This is just a breakdown of the

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areas and how many paved and

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dirt miles are in each one of

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the areas.

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This is a graph showing all 161

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maintained bridges we have in

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the county.

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We have 15 of those 161 that are

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posted and only one of them

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closed on trail 17.

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As far as a summary of what we

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do in maintenance, this is

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good summary of the maintenance

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projects.

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We completed 38 in 2020.

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00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:48,430
We did 264 traffic studies and

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00:18:48,430 --> 00:18:50,430
processed 27afm petitions.

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00:18:50,145 --> 00:18:51,915
Our herbicide truck, do you to

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00:18:51,915 --> 00:18:53,490
losing our certified herbicide

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sprayer and problems with the

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00:18:54,517 --> 00:18:56,285
truck we weren't able to spray

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00:18:56,285 --> 00:18:59,285
roads but we're actively working

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on getting those corrected.

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00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,260
We maintain traffic signals, 77

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traffic signals.

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And we were able to strap

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00:19:13,690 --> 00:19:13,670
606 miles of lanes and maintain

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00:19:13,670 --> 00:19:15,670
17,000 signs.

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00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,477
So when a work order comes in,

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00:19:20,477 --> 00:19:22,244
our administrative ssistance

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00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:23,647
log it in as a problem reported.

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00:19:23,647 --> 00:19:26,470
They generate work orders.

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And they track that work order

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all the way through its

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completion and we can report on

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that and send e-mails out to

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those following that particular

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work order.

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We had 2,309 and in area 100,

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they completed 102% of those

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work orders called in.

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Basically it means that they had

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a few leftover from last year.

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They were able to complete those

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this year.

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Area 200 completed 91-point 9%

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of those and then area 300 was

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87 and a half.

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We have do have special

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projects, maintenance special

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projects.

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00:20:10,795 --> 00:20:13,795
These are our sidewalks, our

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parking lots, our

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emergency-related activities and

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00:20:20,338 --> 00:20:21,906
we do other municipalities and

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00:20:21,906 --> 00:20:23,240
we report on those and this is a

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graph showing that what we did

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through out the county, these

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00:20:27,612 --> 00:20:29,347
things just pop up all through

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the year depending on our

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00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,880
different needs.

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Bay minette airport resurfacing,

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00:20:38,824 --> 00:20:41,824
we helped them with that.

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00:20:42,761 --> 00:20:44,796
We helped an elementary school.

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We did a sidewalk on county road

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1 through a grant that was

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called the transportation

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00:20:47,899 --> 00:20:50,299
alternative program or called

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the tap grant.

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And we're also helping the town

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of alberta out with brain age drainage

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00:21:02,548 --> 00:21:04,383
improvement and we maintained

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00:21:04,383 --> 00:21:07,383
24.4 acres of wetlands at our

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00:21:08,421 --> 00:21:08,754
wetland mitigation bank in gulf

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00:21:08,754 --> 00:21:10,754
shores.

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00:21:11,122 --> 00:21:13,593
We had a couple of ada projects

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we did a lot of ada improvements

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on our sidewalks.

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00:21:20,133 --> 00:21:21,660
And obviously from an emergency

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00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:23,466
standpoint we had hurricane

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00:21:24,103 --> 00:21:25,705
sally so I ust want to run

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00:21:25,705 --> 00:21:28,675
through a couple of slides.

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How hurricane sal see effected

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00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:31,770
us.

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00:21:31,144 --> 00:21:31,844
This map right here is very

552
00:21:31,844 --> 00:21:32,879
interesting.

553
00:21:32,879 --> 00:21:34,581
This shows the amount of

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rainfall that happened in

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hurricane sally.

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Obviously, the top-left was

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lighter rain and when you move

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to the bottom right, it gets

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heavier.

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The heaviest rain will be in the

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white and light purple areas and

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00:21:54,935 --> 00:21:57,804
if can you see these areas here,

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this area received up to

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00:21:59,239 --> 00:22:02,239
200-year storm event but then

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00:22:04,478 --> 00:22:06,450
this rea right in there,

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00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:08,445
received a 500 year storm.

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00:22:10,483 --> 00:22:13,483
It was quite rain event.

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00:22:15,655 --> 00:22:18,692
From a cost standpoint and what

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kind of work does sally generate

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from us.

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00:22:21,610 --> 00:22:24,610
This is different category a.

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It's our debris clean up and the

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00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:30,400
total cost -- all these that I'm

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00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,305
fix to go run off here are all

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00:22:31,305 --> 00:22:33,508
still in the works, they're not

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00:22:33,508 --> 00:22:35,676
set in stone and these are

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00:22:35,676 --> 00:22:38,760
estimated prices and it's

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00:22:39,914 --> 00:22:41,949
$60 million worth of vegetative

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00:22:41,949 --> 00:22:42,383
cnd picked up on the

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00:22:42,383 --> 00:22:43,384
right-of-way.

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00:22:43,384 --> 00:22:45,784
The highway department didn't

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00:22:47,856 --> 00:22:50,225
take that and it was our solid

583
00:22:50,225 --> 00:22:51,526
waste department and and

584
00:22:51,526 --> 00:22:53,526
preventative measures basically

585
00:22:53,562 --> 00:22:58,362
just what we do in the front end

586
00:23:04,739 --> 00:23:05,907
to protect our citizens and we

587
00:23:05,907 --> 00:23:07,743
spent 685,000.

588
00:23:07,743 --> 00:23:08,643
The cat-6, there's four or five

589
00:23:08,643 --> 00:23:10,643
of those.

590
00:23:11,346 --> 00:23:12,800
We've broken those into paved

591
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,848
road damage.

592
00:23:13,848 --> 00:23:15,848
Sidewalk and guardrails.

593
00:23:17,286 --> 00:23:17,986
We had one project at fernwood

594
00:23:17,986 --> 00:23:18,820
drive under construction that

595
00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:21,523
received a lot of damage in the

596
00:23:21,523 --> 00:23:23,158
amount of $201,000 of damage.

597
00:23:23,158 --> 00:23:24,926
Our signs got ravaged throughout

598
00:23:24,926 --> 00:23:26,926
the county.

599
00:23:27,495 --> 00:23:29,865
About $300,000 worth of damage

600
00:23:29,865 --> 00:23:31,366
on those.

601
00:23:31,366 --> 00:23:34,366
Our unpaved gravel roads got

602
00:23:34,937 --> 00:23:36,272
washed out and so we're asking

603
00:23:36,272 --> 00:23:40,208
fema to help us fund those in

604
00:23:40,208 --> 00:23:40,943
the amount of $530,000.

605
00:23:40,943 --> 00:23:42,410
Our cross drains got washed out

606
00:23:42,410 --> 00:23:45,147
in the amount of $6 million and

607
00:23:45,147 --> 00:23:47,750
again all these projects were

608
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:49,500
working through fema to help us

609
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:50,486
reimburse those -- these

610
00:23:50,486 --> 00:23:54,860
projects will be going on for

611
00:23:54,223 --> 00:23:56,623
over the next year.

612
00:23:56,725 --> 00:23:58,795
And then fema covers some

613
00:23:58,795 --> 00:23:59,595
roadways but they don't cover

614
00:23:59,595 --> 00:24:00,663
all roadways.

615
00:24:00,663 --> 00:24:02,298
Our ajor roadways are actually

616
00:24:02,298 --> 00:24:03,650
covered through he federal

617
00:24:03,650 --> 00:24:05,465
highway administration and we

618
00:24:05,601 --> 00:24:06,703
have to go through their process

619
00:24:06,703 --> 00:24:07,837
as well and we had about a

620
00:24:07,837 --> 00:24:10,806
million dollars worth of damage

621
00:24:10,806 --> 00:24:12,508
on those and we'll work through

622
00:24:12,508 --> 00:24:13,343
fswa to get that money refunded

623
00:24:13,343 --> 00:24:15,343
as well.

624
00:24:15,578 --> 00:24:16,680
Our parks received about

625
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,680
$864,000 worth of damage for a

626
00:24:19,983 --> 00:24:22,383
total of $96.6 million of

627
00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:26,857
estimated cost that hurricane

628
00:24:26,857 --> 00:24:29,257
sally destowed upon us.

629
00:24:33,497 --> 00:24:35,499
It was quite the storm.

630
00:24:35,499 --> 00:24:37,601
From a budget standpoint, we'll

631
00:24:37,601 --> 00:24:38,668
go down to engineering and

632
00:24:38,668 --> 00:24:40,237
administration activities.

633
00:24:40,237 --> 00:24:41,405
Again, we break this down into

634
00:24:41,405 --> 00:24:43,405
different departments.

635
00:24:45,142 --> 00:24:45,559
We have our pre-construction

636
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:47,430
department.

637
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:48,979
Our construction engineering

638
00:24:48,979 --> 00:24:51,148
which does all of our inspection

639
00:24:51,148 --> 00:24:53,548
and construction projects and

640
00:24:54,218 --> 00:24:57,218
our bridges and they actually

641
00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:59,223
also help inspect and permit

642
00:24:59,223 --> 00:25:00,291
subdivisions.

643
00:25:00,291 --> 00:25:02,691
Our geo-spacial operations and

644
00:25:03,561 --> 00:25:05,363
our admins.

645
00:25:05,363 --> 00:25:08,299
So, from a design standpoint,

646
00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:10,680
the goal was to resurface and

647
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,680
complete design on four groups.

648
00:25:13,905 --> 00:25:15,973
We actually did five.

649
00:25:15,973 --> 00:25:16,941
And if you remember the

650
00:25:16,941 --> 00:25:18,943
commission gave me another

651
00:25:18,943 --> 00:25:20,440
million ollars because asphalt

652
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440
prices were dropping due to

653
00:25:23,214 --> 00:25:24,949
covid and we took advantage of

654
00:25:24,949 --> 00:25:27,585
that and get a few more roads

655
00:25:27,585 --> 00:25:30,288
paved at a better price.

656
00:25:30,288 --> 00:25:31,690
The bridge projects our goal was

657
00:25:31,690 --> 00:25:34,690
to complete design on three

658
00:25:37,863 --> 00:25:39,164
projects and we did that.

659
00:25:39,164 --> 00:25:40,966
Our goal was to complete design

660
00:25:40,966 --> 00:25:42,868
on four and we were able to do

661
00:25:42,868 --> 00:25:45,537
three with one n the progress

662
00:25:45,537 --> 00:25:46,538
and our drainage improvement

663
00:25:46,538 --> 00:25:49,538
projects was to complete design

664
00:25:50,876 --> 00:25:54,446
on one project and we did that.

665
00:25:54,446 --> 00:25:55,280
In design, we also have the park

666
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,815
improvement projects.

667
00:25:56,815 --> 00:26:00,415
Our goal was to complete design

668
00:26:02,388 --> 00:26:02,687
on three and we accomplished

669
00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:04,687
that.

670
00:26:04,957 --> 00:26:05,958
We were able to introduce three

671
00:26:05,958 --> 00:26:08,358
special design projects and

672
00:26:08,394 --> 00:26:10,794
throw are in progress.

673
00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:13,532
The biggest part of all that I

674
00:26:13,532 --> 00:26:16,135
just was going over in our

675
00:26:16,135 --> 00:26:17,770
design section, the biggest

676
00:26:17,770 --> 00:26:19,438
hurdle we have to jump is

677
00:26:19,438 --> 00:26:21,838
actually to acquire the

678
00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:22,942
right-of-way for those projects.

679
00:26:22,942 --> 00:26:26,179
It takes a lot of time, it takes

680
00:26:26,179 --> 00:26:27,346
a lot of effort and man hour and

681
00:26:27,346 --> 00:26:29,248
one-on-one conversations and

682
00:26:29,248 --> 00:26:31,718
meetings and obviously covid has

683
00:26:31,718 --> 00:26:34,118
hurt that a lot.

684
00:26:34,187 --> 00:26:35,721
So, this slide is very important

685
00:26:35,721 --> 00:26:37,230
because all those funded

686
00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:40,230
projects that y'all funded and

687
00:26:41,861 --> 00:26:43,363
asked me to do required us to

688
00:26:43,363 --> 00:26:43,696
acquire about 59 right-of-way

689
00:26:43,696 --> 00:26:45,696
tracks.

690
00:26:45,731 --> 00:26:46,433
50 of those right-of-way tracks

691
00:26:46,433 --> 00:26:48,433
were acquired and

692
00:26:49,903 --> 00:26:52,139
acquired and my department

693
00:26:52,139 --> 00:26:54,539
got 43 of those 50 donated,

694
00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:58,210
which was huge.

695
00:26:58,210 --> 00:26:59,646
So, our right-of-way department

696
00:26:59,646 --> 00:27:01,470
also works on projects that are

697
00:27:01,470 --> 00:27:01,982
not funded.

698
00:27:01,982 --> 00:27:03,649
Projects that we're scheduling

699
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:05,418
for next year.

700
00:27:05,418 --> 00:27:07,818
and those projects, obviously

701
00:27:10,457 --> 00:27:11,525
we're trying to get right-of-way

702
00:27:11,525 --> 00:27:12,960
there and they've been

703
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,462
identified and we're working on

704
00:27:15,462 --> 00:27:16,196
and that goal was to acquire 46

705
00:27:16,196 --> 00:27:18,165
right-of-way tracks.

706
00:27:18,165 --> 00:27:21,502
They were able to get 29 of

707
00:27:21,502 --> 00:27:23,804
those and all 29 of those were

708
00:27:23,804 --> 00:27:25,804
donated.

709
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:29,140
Pre construction engineering.

710
00:27:29,743 --> 00:27:31,846
This is a summary.

711
00:27:31,846 --> 00:27:34,815
Projects that were in design and

712
00:27:34,815 --> 00:27:36,490
environmental permits were

713
00:27:36,490 --> 00:27:38,449
seven, special requests was 69.

714
00:27:40,154 --> 00:27:40,854
The right-of-way department

715
00:27:40,854 --> 00:27:42,422
continuously receives requests

716
00:27:42,422 --> 00:27:44,425
for research on what

717
00:27:44,425 --> 00:27:46,425
right-of-way we own.

718
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:50,265
They received 852 requests this

719
00:27:50,265 --> 00:27:52,265
past year.

720
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,468
The tracks were 79 in total.

721
00:27:53,468 --> 00:27:55,468
Right-of-way vacations processed

722
00:27:56,838 --> 00:27:58,873
were six and the deeds prepared

723
00:27:58,873 --> 00:28:00,873
were 102.

724
00:28:01,943 --> 00:28:03,345
From a construction engineering

725
00:28:03,345 --> 00:28:04,913
standpoint, again, this is our

726
00:28:04,913 --> 00:28:06,915
guides that inspect the

727
00:28:06,915 --> 00:28:07,182
construction projects are going

728
00:28:07,182 --> 00:28:09,182
on.

729
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,554
They were able to inspect 61

730
00:28:12,554 --> 00:28:14,890
projects.

731
00:28:14,890 --> 00:28:16,890
Inspect 86 different

732
00:28:17,259 --> 00:28:19,628
subdivisions and I'm sorry,

733
00:28:19,628 --> 00:28:21,628
permit 86 different subdivision

734
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,300
and process 46 commercial

735
00:28:24,633 --> 00:28:26,633
turnouts and 29 license

736
00:28:27,135 --> 00:28:27,469
agreements and 320 utility

737
00:28:27,469 --> 00:28:29,469
permits.

738
00:28:29,505 --> 00:28:33,105
We have a geo special operations

739
00:28:33,809 --> 00:28:36,100
which includes our surveyor.

740
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,546
This is been a vision of mine

741
00:28:37,546 --> 00:28:39,849
with the department is to try to

742
00:28:39,849 --> 00:28:40,883
get a good data and inventory of

743
00:28:40,883 --> 00:28:43,618
everything we have on the road

744
00:28:43,618 --> 00:28:46,618
from a geo special standpoint.

745
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:51,690
As you can see, we have 100%

746
00:28:51,993 --> 00:28:54,230
complete on our survey to G.I.S.

747
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:55,731
Except for maintenance and 100%

748
00:28:55,731 --> 00:28:56,499
complete on our functional

749
00:28:56,499 --> 00:28:59,499
assessment and the others are

750
00:29:02,505 --> 00:29:04,505
still in progress.

751
00:29:06,141 --> 00:29:07,610
As far as apital expend

752
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:09,610
expenditures,

753
00:29:09,611 --> 00:29:12,480
these are the funds that y'all

754
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,480
have allocated to buy equipment

755
00:29:15,351 --> 00:29:15,752
and other things like equipment

756
00:29:15,752 --> 00:29:17,752
barns.

757
00:29:19,254 --> 00:29:21,558
You can see we've bought motor

758
00:29:21,558 --> 00:29:23,558
graders, bulldozers, sweepers,

759
00:29:24,828 --> 00:29:25,195
flat bed trucks, regular

760
00:29:25,195 --> 00:29:26,296
vehicles.

761
00:29:26,296 --> 00:29:29,896
We were able to construct an

762
00:29:31,133 --> 00:29:32,302
area of 200 equipment barn.

763
00:29:32,302 --> 00:29:34,302
Area 300 equipment barn.

764
00:29:34,671 --> 00:29:34,972
Traffic operations equipment

765
00:29:34,972 --> 00:29:36,972
barn.

766
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:39,407
Couple of message boards.

767
00:29:40,444 --> 00:29:41,712
And that is some of our G.I.S.

768
00:29:41,712 --> 00:29:43,712
Equipment survey.

769
00:29:45,816 --> 00:29:48,816
From a budget standpoint, we

770
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,254
budgeted right at a less less

771
00:29:51,254 --> 00:29:52,255
than 5.7 mill.

772
00:29:52,255 --> 00:29:54,525
Our actual spent on that was

773
00:29:54,525 --> 00:29:58,125
just a little over 5.6 for an

774
00:29:58,929 --> 00:30:00,831
under run of $76,000.

775
00:30:00,831 --> 00:30:03,367
For our motor vehicles, which is

776
00:30:03,367 --> 00:30:05,603
our smaller vehicles, we

777
00:30:05,603 --> 00:30:07,271
budgeted 552,000 and we spent

778
00:30:07,271 --> 00:30:07,705
553,000 for an under run of

779
00:30:07,705 --> 00:30:09,705
about 18,000.

780
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:12,109
From a building standpoint, this

781
00:30:12,109 --> 00:30:13,444
looks a lip lopsided because our

782
00:30:13,444 --> 00:30:15,279
buildings are not started yet.

783
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:17,281
Y'all have actually helped fund

784
00:30:17,281 --> 00:30:19,517
two new maintenance facilities,

785
00:30:19,517 --> 00:30:20,852
one in area 100 and one in 200.

786
00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:23,454
These were under designed at

787
00:30:23,454 --> 00:30:26,157
this time and they're fixing to

788
00:30:26,157 --> 00:30:27,725
be let out -- one of them is

789
00:30:27,725 --> 00:30:28,459
advertising now and the other

790
00:30:28,459 --> 00:30:29,227
soon.

791
00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:30,494
The money sitting there and we

792
00:30:30,494 --> 00:30:33,494
just haven't spent it yet

793
00:30:36,568 --> 00:30:37,569
because we're fixing to start

794
00:30:37,569 --> 00:30:38,670
construction.

795
00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,638
On the other small items, we

796
00:30:40,638 --> 00:30:42,774
were under run those a little

797
00:30:42,774 --> 00:30:45,174
over a thousand dollars.

798
00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:48,480
So the challenge that's we faced

799
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,480
for '20, was obviously hurricane

800
00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:54,985
sally and covid.

801
00:30:56,540 --> 00:30:58,390
Our work hours, our lost

802
00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:00,458
productivity from our work

803
00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:03,362
hours, I just went become and

804
00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:04,463
compared from '19 to fiscal year

805
00:31:04,463 --> 00:31:06,331
'20 and it's shocking because I

806
00:31:06,331 --> 00:31:08,534
thought it would be a bigger

807
00:31:08,534 --> 00:31:11,103
number but it was only 4.4% less

808
00:31:11,103 --> 00:31:12,504
when you looked at just the man

809
00:31:12,504 --> 00:31:12,838
hours that we're actually

810
00:31:12,838 --> 00:31:14,339
working.

811
00:31:14,339 --> 00:31:14,640
But, it doesn't tell the whole

812
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,509
story.

813
00:31:16,509 --> 00:31:17,643
And the reason it doesn't it

814
00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:19,100
because we have the on the job

815
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,100
loss of productivity.

816
00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,951
The time loss cleaning and

817
00:31:24,951 --> 00:31:25,318
disinfecting always and

818
00:31:25,318 --> 00:31:26,753
equipment.

819
00:31:26,753 --> 00:31:28,620
We can only put one person in a

820
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:28,921
vehicle at a time for a long

821
00:31:28,921 --> 00:31:30,490
time.

822
00:31:30,490 --> 00:31:31,224
The huge thing was we had no

823
00:31:31,224 --> 00:31:33,224
inmate labor.

824
00:31:33,726 --> 00:31:34,727
If inmates were not there

825
00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:36,829
working, someone has to be doing

826
00:31:36,829 --> 00:31:38,264
what they weren't doing.

827
00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:39,832
Our guys that normally were

828
00:31:39,832 --> 00:31:41,000
doing other things had to be

829
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,569
doing what they were doing.

830
00:31:42,569 --> 00:31:44,203
There was no really good way for

831
00:31:44,203 --> 00:31:46,603
me to calculate that.

832
00:31:48,575 --> 00:31:50,799
The loss of productivity was the

833
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,679
biggest one.

834
00:31:52,679 --> 00:31:54,380
Looking ahead, goals and

835
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:56,380
challenges for 2021, obviously

836
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,520
we had a strategic plan now that

837
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,385
y'all have directed us and

838
00:31:59,385 --> 00:32:00,921
adopted.

839
00:32:00,921 --> 00:32:02,210
Some of those strategic plans

840
00:32:02,210 --> 00:32:03,890
which you have directed the

841
00:32:03,890 --> 00:32:04,191
highway department to do is

842
00:32:04,191 --> 00:32:06,191
2022.

843
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,761
The residents will expect a

844
00:32:07,761 --> 00:32:09,563
well-plan set of new and

845
00:32:09,563 --> 00:32:12,563
improved roads for local travel

846
00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:17,737
that will alleviate traffic.

847
00:32:17,737 --> 00:32:20,137
By 2025-2027 they will

848
00:32:20,674 --> 00:32:22,409
experience reduced congestion

849
00:32:22,409 --> 00:32:23,677
and by 2022 the community will

850
00:32:23,677 --> 00:32:25,546
experience the reduction and run

851
00:32:25,546 --> 00:32:28,482
off and flooding through the

852
00:32:28,482 --> 00:32:30,482
implementation of regional

853
00:32:31,152 --> 00:32:31,775
retention systems for

854
00:32:31,775 --> 00:32:33,253
stormwater.

855
00:32:33,253 --> 00:32:34,822
Again, we have the same projects

856
00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:37,222
types we broken down.

857
00:32:38,826 --> 00:32:42,426
Our goal this year was to

858
00:32:47,735 --> 00:32:49,437
resurface 63.24 miles, pave 5.19 miles, with go mesa funds

859
00:32:49,437 --> 00:32:52,437
and pave another 1.8 with county

860
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,576
funds and that 1.8 of county

861
00:32:55,576 --> 00:32:58,746
funds was hugby road and we

862
00:32:58,746 --> 00:33:02,946
finished that one up so that is

863
00:33:05,887 --> 00:33:07,887
completed.

864
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,793
We begin onstruction on four

865
00:33:11,793 --> 00:33:12,727
bridge replacement projects.

866
00:33:12,727 --> 00:33:14,629
Safety improvements.

867
00:33:14,629 --> 00:33:16,964
We have three improvement

868
00:33:16,964 --> 00:33:17,666
projects complete and begin

869
00:33:17,666 --> 00:33:19,468
construction on three.

870
00:33:19,468 --> 00:33:22,937
These are goals that we're going

871
00:33:22,937 --> 00:33:23,238
to report on this time next

872
00:33:23,238 --> 00:33:25,238
year.

873
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,841
Capacity improvements was one

874
00:33:26,841 --> 00:33:28,743
capacity mprovement project and

875
00:33:28,743 --> 00:33:29,430
design and it's our county road

876
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:30,178
64.

877
00:33:30,178 --> 00:33:31,213
We don't hink it will be let

878
00:33:31,213 --> 00:33:34,213
the to construction but it

879
00:33:34,283 --> 00:33:35,383
should be getting close.

880
00:33:35,383 --> 00:33:37,783
Drainage improvement was to

881
00:33:38,186 --> 00:33:40,586
complete construction of two

882
00:33:41,123 --> 00:33:42,691
drainage improvement projects

883
00:33:42,691 --> 00:33:43,559
and begin on one park

884
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:45,959
improvement project and it's

885
00:33:47,329 --> 00:33:51,529
going to be what we are calling

886
00:33:51,667 --> 00:33:53,836
the icw boat launch.

887
00:33:53,836 --> 00:33:56,205
We also have the lillian boat

888
00:33:56,205 --> 00:33:57,640
launch projects that was funded

889
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,740
through a restore council that

890
00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:01,740
was another grant we were

891
00:34:01,744 --> 00:34:03,744
successful in getting.

892
00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:07,517
This project is the study is

893
00:34:07,517 --> 00:34:09,517
underway.

894
00:34:09,585 --> 00:34:12,585
We're orking through dcnr to

895
00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:15,422
get that scope approved.

896
00:34:15,859 --> 00:34:16,993
This one got a little

897
00:34:16,993 --> 00:34:18,228
complicated because it got

898
00:34:18,228 --> 00:34:20,396
damage from hurricane sally and

899
00:34:20,396 --> 00:34:21,731
we have a restore grant

900
00:34:21,731 --> 00:34:23,266
repairing some of the stuff and

901
00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:25,635
fema repairing other stuff so

902
00:34:25,635 --> 00:34:26,336
it's going to get a little

903
00:34:26,336 --> 00:34:28,336
complicated on us.

904
00:34:29,373 --> 00:34:32,800
But there's nothing we can't

905
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:32,843
handle.

906
00:34:32,843 --> 00:34:34,843
Maintenance activities.

907
00:34:34,944 --> 00:34:36,246
It was to ensure all citizen

908
00:34:36,246 --> 00:34:38,140
request and work orders are

909
00:34:38,140 --> 00:34:41,140
processed timely and ensure by

910
00:34:42,184 --> 00:34:43,319
annual inspections on ll

911
00:34:43,319 --> 00:34:45,155
roadways.

912
00:34:45,155 --> 00:34:48,155
Our geo-spacial uy set new

913
00:34:48,292 --> 00:34:48,658
goals to complete the cross

914
00:34:48,658 --> 00:34:50,259
inventory.

915
00:34:50,259 --> 00:34:51,795
The road sign inventory and

916
00:34:51,795 --> 00:34:52,862
develop and complete damage

917
00:34:52,862 --> 00:34:54,498
assessment database that will be

918
00:34:54,498 --> 00:34:55,199
huge for the next storm event

919
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:56,834
that comes.

920
00:34:56,834 --> 00:34:59,834
And to continue improvement in

921
00:35:01,572 --> 00:35:03,241
training for G.I.S. Staff and

922
00:35:03,241 --> 00:35:04,775
integrate develop existing

923
00:35:04,775 --> 00:35:06,110
datasets and munis.

924
00:35:06,110 --> 00:35:08,510
Special rojects, was to

925
00:35:09,413 --> 00:35:10,181
complete four and have two in

926
00:35:10,181 --> 00:35:12,181
design.

927
00:35:13,783 --> 00:35:16,287
From a design standpoint, we're

928
00:35:16,287 --> 00:35:19,287
going to complete design on

929
00:35:19,757 --> 00:35:21,526
three groups of resurfacing

930
00:35:21,526 --> 00:35:23,260
projects, six bridges and one in

931
00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:24,940
design.

932
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:26,130
New road construction was to

933
00:35:26,130 --> 00:35:28,133
complete design on two projects

934
00:35:28,133 --> 00:35:29,801
and to complete design on four.

935
00:35:29,801 --> 00:35:32,801
Park projects was to complete

936
00:35:32,871 --> 00:35:33,438
design on one project and begin

937
00:35:33,438 --> 00:35:34,939
design on two.

938
00:35:34,939 --> 00:35:37,939
Special projects was to complete

939
00:35:38,843 --> 00:35:40,744
design on six projects.

940
00:35:40,744 --> 00:35:42,413
This is one of the safety

941
00:35:42,413 --> 00:35:42,746
improvement projects in design

942
00:35:42,746 --> 00:35:44,683
already.

943
00:35:44,683 --> 00:35:47,830
This is county road 13

944
00:35:55,994 --> 00:35:57,429
roundabout at 44.

945
00:35:57,429 --> 00:35:57,763
Acquired 132 right-of-way

946
00:35:57,763 --> 00:35:59,763
tracks.

947
00:36:00,132 --> 00:36:03,100
You can see we've broken down

948
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,536
for project type.

949
00:36:04,536 --> 00:36:07,720
And then the challenges for

950
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:08,473
physical year 2021, obviously

951
00:36:08,473 --> 00:36:09,908
we're a growing county.

952
00:36:09,908 --> 00:36:12,308
This is 50% population growth

953
00:36:13,812 --> 00:36:15,447
just for the state of alabama.

954
00:36:15,447 --> 00:36:17,149
From 1960 to 2019.

955
00:36:17,149 --> 00:36:18,250
And if you compare that to what

956
00:36:18,250 --> 00:36:21,850
we've seen in baldwin county, we

957
00:36:23,523 --> 00:36:25,891
have seen a 354% growth rate.

958
00:36:25,891 --> 00:36:27,660
So that's obviously challenges.

959
00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:28,861
What are those challenges

960
00:36:28,861 --> 00:36:30,263
creating?

961
00:36:30,263 --> 00:36:31,530
This is just a graph of our

962
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:33,198
annual resurfacing cost.

963
00:36:33,198 --> 00:36:36,269
As you can see, the background

964
00:36:36,269 --> 00:36:38,498
if you would, the one in gray,

965
00:36:38,498 --> 00:36:39,338
is represents what we should be

966
00:36:39,338 --> 00:36:41,738
recycling about every 12 years.

967
00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:48,214
If we maintain 100 -- if we

968
00:36:48,214 --> 00:36:49,581
maintain 1,381 miles of paved

969
00:36:49,581 --> 00:36:51,583
roads and that number stays

970
00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:54,187
consist apartment we should be

971
00:36:54,187 --> 00:36:57,187
doing 115 miles a year to

972
00:37:04,263 --> 00:37:08,463
recycle every one of those roads we're

973
00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:17,811
not doing that, this little area

974
00:37:17,811 --> 00:37:20,614
scheer what we did not get

975
00:37:20,614 --> 00:37:23,614
accomplished due to covid and

976
00:37:23,984 --> 00:37:27,584
salary and this is what we're

977
00:37:28,888 --> 00:37:31,288
project today do in 2021.

978
00:37:34,427 --> 00:37:35,829
We still maintain 176 miles of

979
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:37,829
dirt roads.

980
00:37:41,202 --> 00:37:41,736
It takes $150,000 per mile to

981
00:37:41,736 --> 00:37:43,537
pave a dirt road.

982
00:37:43,537 --> 00:37:45,105
The commission funded

983
00:37:45,105 --> 00:37:47,800
$2.2 million in 2020, which was

984
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,510
huge, if e did it, if we wanted

985
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:52,313
to get rid of ll of them in 10

986
00:37:52,313 --> 00:37:53,481
years, we would be need to be

987
00:37:53,481 --> 00:37:54,582
doing $2.6 million a year for a

988
00:37:54,582 --> 00:37:56,840
total of $26 million total to

989
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,284
get rid of all the dirt roads

990
00:38:02,623 --> 00:38:05,193
that we maintained in 10 years.

991
00:38:05,193 --> 00:38:06,494
So one of goals for our

992
00:38:06,494 --> 00:38:08,228
strategic plan was about

993
00:38:08,228 --> 00:38:09,897
capacity improvement.

994
00:38:09,897 --> 00:38:12,567
I've identified just a few of

995
00:38:12,567 --> 00:38:13,134
the big projects that we need to

996
00:38:13,134 --> 00:38:15,134
concentrate on.

997
00:38:16,204 --> 00:38:17,739
One was obviously the extend the

998
00:38:17,739 --> 00:38:18,600
baldwin beach express from 10 to

999
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,274
65.

1000
00:38:19,274 --> 00:38:20,675
we're rying to find funding

1001
00:38:20,675 --> 00:38:22,675
sources for that.

1002
00:38:23,544 --> 00:38:25,460
Extend county road 68 from

1003
00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:27,583
bohemian call to county road 48

1004
00:38:27,583 --> 00:38:29,717
and industrial drive, up here

1005
00:38:29,717 --> 00:38:31,520
near the mega site.

1006
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,920
Additional lane from 64 from

1007
00:38:34,589 --> 00:38:35,958
state route 181 o 54 which is

1008
00:38:35,958 --> 00:38:37,793
actually in design right now so

1009
00:38:37,793 --> 00:38:40,195
that one is on going.

1010
00:38:40,195 --> 00:38:43,195
Extend county road 65 from 28 to

1011
00:38:44,466 --> 00:38:44,800
32, which was partially funded

1012
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,267
in 2020.

1013
00:38:46,267 --> 00:38:48,103
We're working on that.

1014
00:38:48,103 --> 00:38:49,738
Extend county road 20 to 65

1015
00:38:49,738 --> 00:38:51,306
which was partially funded in 20

1016
00:38:51,306 --> 00:38:54,376
so we're working on that one and

1017
00:38:54,376 --> 00:38:56,478
of course widen 95 from ish

1018
00:38:56,478 --> 00:38:59,115
trap road to U.S. 98.

1019
00:38:59,115 --> 00:39:01,851
It's quite a bit of money there,

1020
00:39:01,851 --> 00:39:04,251
$226 million total for capacity

1021
00:39:04,286 --> 00:39:06,255
improvements.

1022
00:39:06,255 --> 00:39:07,389
This slide rit here is probably

1023
00:39:07,389 --> 00:39:09,725
one of the better slides of the

1024
00:39:09,725 --> 00:39:11,394
whole presentation.

1025
00:39:11,394 --> 00:39:14,394
So this is 9 bridges under

1026
00:39:14,897 --> 00:39:15,398
construction or funded and this

1027
00:39:15,398 --> 00:39:17,398
was huge.

1028
00:39:20,536 --> 00:39:24,136
Just going from top, I mean,

1029
00:39:33,850 --> 00:39:35,385
you've got fred douger road and

1030
00:39:35,385 --> 00:39:36,886
and we have both bridges on

1031
00:39:36,886 --> 00:39:38,187
country road 34 being designed

1032
00:39:38,187 --> 00:39:38,855
now.

1033
00:39:38,855 --> 00:39:40,589
That's $7.9 million that the

1034
00:39:40,589 --> 00:39:41,625
commission is actually funded

1035
00:39:41,625 --> 00:39:42,390
for construction and that is

1036
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:43,527
huge.

1037
00:39:43,527 --> 00:39:45,428
I don't know that we've ever had

1038
00:39:45,428 --> 00:39:48,428
that much bridge activity going

1039
00:39:48,866 --> 00:39:51,266
on in my tenure.

1040
00:39:53,136 --> 00:39:55,272
So that's kudos to y'all.

1041
00:39:55,272 --> 00:39:56,506
We still have eight bridges that

1042
00:39:56,506 --> 00:39:58,506
are posted.

1043
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:59,410
And you can see some of them get

1044
00:39:59,410 --> 00:40:01,410
pricy.

1045
00:40:02,546 --> 00:40:06,146
This one is over 32 at fish

1046
00:40:08,352 --> 00:40:10,221
river is around 10 million.

1047
00:40:10,221 --> 00:40:11,655
That is my presentation.

1048
00:40:11,655 --> 00:40:13,824
If y'all have any questions,

1049
00:40:13,824 --> 00:40:15,792
I'll be happy to answer.

1050
00:40:15,792 --> 00:40:19,730
>> on the, I know you got some

1051
00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:23,330
looking into the future, what is

1052
00:40:24,635 --> 00:40:28,235
going on with the green energy,

1053
00:40:28,238 --> 00:40:31,838
the fossil fuel, trying cut back

1054
00:40:32,977 --> 00:40:34,779
on them.

1055
00:40:34,779 --> 00:40:36,847
We're seeing gas prices up and

1056
00:40:36,847 --> 00:40:37,115
we're going to see asphalt go

1057
00:40:37,115 --> 00:40:38,483
up.

1058
00:40:38,483 --> 00:40:38,750
It's going to add a big cost to

1059
00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:40,750
us.

1060
00:40:41,753 --> 00:40:42,587
>> when the asphalt index goes

1061
00:40:42,587 --> 00:40:44,122
up, which is what you are

1062
00:40:44,122 --> 00:40:46,522
referring to, it effecting

1063
00:40:46,825 --> 00:40:49,825
everything we do from buying

1064
00:40:49,894 --> 00:40:52,564
fuel for our equipment to buying

1065
00:40:52,564 --> 00:40:54,964
asphalt, because obviously it's

1066
00:40:56,535 --> 00:40:58,303
made -- the asphalt index takes

1067
00:40:58,303 --> 00:40:59,604
it to make asphalt so the price

1068
00:40:59,604 --> 00:41:01,973
of everything can go up.

1069
00:41:01,973 --> 00:41:03,750
Which is why we went ahead and

1070
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:04,543
the commission felt the need to

1071
00:41:04,543 --> 00:41:06,144
go ahead and do that million

1072
00:41:06,144 --> 00:41:08,414
dollars worth of resurfacing

1073
00:41:08,414 --> 00:41:10,749
last year to take advantage of

1074
00:41:10,749 --> 00:41:12,500
the low asphalt index price.

1075
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,650
>> I think it's going to be

1076
00:41:16,587 --> 00:41:16,914
something we'll have to put up

1077
00:41:16,914 --> 00:41:18,914
with.

1078
00:41:19,925 --> 00:41:21,293
>> so, you said we had 15 posted

1079
00:41:21,293 --> 00:41:23,950
bridges but we still have eight

1080
00:41:23,950 --> 00:41:23,362
more that haven't been budgeted

1081
00:41:23,362 --> 00:41:25,362
yet.

1082
00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:30,736
So the ones that are funded and

1083
00:41:30,736 --> 00:41:33,136
under construction, those ther

1084
00:41:33,906 --> 00:41:35,608
seven are included in that?

1085
00:41:35,608 --> 00:41:36,743
>> you said we have 15 posted

1086
00:41:36,743 --> 00:41:38,100
bridges, now that means that

1087
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:39,712
there's a sign on there that

1088
00:41:39,712 --> 00:41:40,479
says only o much weight can go

1089
00:41:40,479 --> 00:41:41,814
over that bridge.

1090
00:41:41,814 --> 00:41:42,148
That's what a posted means,

1091
00:41:42,148 --> 00:41:43,616
correct.

1092
00:41:43,616 --> 00:41:45,317
>> that's correct.

1093
00:41:45,317 --> 00:41:46,819
>> you said we have eight more

1094
00:41:46,819 --> 00:41:48,819
that need improvement.

1095
00:41:50,256 --> 00:41:53,856
All those all posted those eight

1096
00:41:55,428 --> 00:41:55,862
and then the others are under

1097
00:41:55,862 --> 00:41:57,862
construction.

1098
00:41:58,298 --> 00:41:59,733
We are addressing a big majority

1099
00:41:59,733 --> 00:42:00,834
or alf of the posted bridges

1100
00:42:00,834 --> 00:42:02,936
with what is under construction

1101
00:42:02,936 --> 00:42:06,536
and what is funded now, right?

1102
00:42:06,973 --> 00:42:08,973
>> absolutely.

1103
00:42:09,708 --> 00:42:12,108
I should have explained.

1104
00:42:12,512 --> 00:42:14,512
The as

1105
00:42:22,489 --> 00:42:24,489
as --

1106
00:42:25,258 --> 00:42:28,258
>> do you want the 32 bridges

1107
00:42:29,897 --> 00:42:30,264
are (Inaudible).

1108
00:42:30,264 --> 00:42:32,264
>> it is.

1109
00:42:32,499 --> 00:42:34,135
It's the biggest bridge in the

1110
00:42:34,135 --> 00:42:36,303
county and the one of the haller

1111
00:42:36,303 --> 00:42:38,380
bridges in the county and right

1112
00:42:38,380 --> 00:42:40,808
away is confined and it's going

1113
00:42:40,808 --> 00:42:43,210
to be a task to replace that.

1114
00:42:43,210 --> 00:42:44,211
>> there's no place to acquire

1115
00:42:44,211 --> 00:42:45,479
anymore right-of-way because of

1116
00:42:45,479 --> 00:42:46,460
the house that's are built

1117
00:42:46,460 --> 00:42:47,248
there?

1118
00:42:47,248 --> 00:42:49,316
>> on the west-end, yes.

1119
00:42:49,316 --> 00:42:51,686
>> how much longer do you think

1120
00:42:51,686 --> 00:42:53,153
that bridge, just a ballpark,

1121
00:42:53,153 --> 00:42:54,855
before we really have to do

1122
00:42:54,855 --> 00:42:57,255
something to that bridge?

1123
00:42:57,390 --> 00:42:57,959
>> we've actually -- it's a

1124
00:42:57,959 --> 00:42:59,959
steel gerder bridge.

1125
00:43:00,428 --> 00:43:03,364
We painted that bridge probably

1126
00:43:03,364 --> 00:43:04,332
about eight or 10 years ago to

1127
00:43:04,332 --> 00:43:07,332
extend the life of it.

1128
00:43:08,435 --> 00:43:08,703
I mean, I don't see us replacing

1129
00:43:08,703 --> 00:43:10,703
it.

1130
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:12,674
I mean, if I felt a funding

1131
00:43:12,674 --> 00:43:13,975
opportunity or a grant

1132
00:43:13,975 --> 00:43:17,450
opportunity was there for me to

1133
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:18,790
get the 10 or 12 million-dollar

1134
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:19,781
that will be needed to have that

1135
00:43:19,781 --> 00:43:22,884
thing and it only cost us a

1136
00:43:22,884 --> 00:43:24,840
million or two, I

1137
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:24,586
I would replace

1138
00:43:24,586 --> 00:43:26,586
it tomorrow.

1139
00:43:26,588 --> 00:43:28,924
If the county had to come up

1140
00:43:28,924 --> 00:43:31,159
with the $10 million to replace

1141
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:32,461
it, 10 years down the road.

1142
00:43:32,461 --> 00:43:35,797
>> kick the can down the road

1143
00:43:35,797 --> 00:43:36,732
and hopefully some type of grant

1144
00:43:36,732 --> 00:43:37,666
opportunity will present itself.

1145
00:43:37,666 --> 00:43:39,201
>> ok.

1146
00:43:39,201 --> 00:43:40,735
>> I've submitted that projects

1147
00:43:40,735 --> 00:43:41,235
for a couple of grants but I'm

1148
00:43:41,235 --> 00:43:42,360
not successful.

1149
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,360
>> keep asking.

1150
00:43:44,506 --> 00:43:46,506
>> that's right.

1151
00:43:46,875 --> 00:43:49,411
>> one thing about the drainage.

1152
00:43:49,411 --> 00:43:51,130
The project that we had on

1153
00:43:51,130 --> 00:43:52,180
fernwood, I just want to commend

1154
00:43:52,180 --> 00:43:54,180
those folks.

1155
00:43:55,618 --> 00:43:58,454
You know, I don't know exactly

1156
00:43:58,454 --> 00:44:02,230
the yards they moved but they

1157
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:03,826
dug 11 acres of ground and I

1158
00:44:03,826 --> 00:44:07,897
think I was talking to rex and

1159
00:44:07,897 --> 00:44:10,166
he has put over 1,000 and

1160
00:44:10,166 --> 00:44:11,967
1,000 hours on

1161
00:44:11,967 --> 00:44:13,836
his machine just digging for the

1162
00:44:13,836 --> 00:44:15,238
track itself.

1163
00:44:15,238 --> 00:44:18,238
That's a lot of hours.

1164
00:44:18,541 --> 00:44:18,808
You know, they did a fantastic

1165
00:44:18,808 --> 00:44:19,342
job.

1166
00:44:19,342 --> 00:44:21,342
>> they did.

1167
00:44:21,844 --> 00:44:23,379
>> they did a great job.

1168
00:44:23,379 --> 00:44:24,913
And that's going to be a really

1169
00:44:24,913 --> 00:44:26,849
big help to that whole region

1170
00:44:26,849 --> 00:44:27,650
down there, especially the

1171
00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:29,650
sunrise subdivision.

1172
00:44:32,789 --> 00:44:35,825
>> I just want to commend them.

1173
00:44:35,825 --> 00:44:38,825
That was a her tech

1174
00:44:39,161 --> 00:44:40,497
hectic project.

1175
00:44:40,497 --> 00:44:42,565
They didn't have a place to go

1176
00:44:42,565 --> 00:44:42,999
so they had to get rid of the

1177
00:44:42,999 --> 00:44:44,999
water, first.

1178
00:44:49,173 --> 00:44:49,973
To continue on.

1179
00:44:49,973 --> 00:44:51,308
>> thank you for putting this

1180
00:44:51,308 --> 00:44:52,576
together for us.

1181
00:44:52,576 --> 00:44:54,578
It's an honor and privilege to

1182
00:44:54,578 --> 00:44:57,214
be part of such a good part of

1183
00:44:57,214 --> 00:44:57,581
this program here that shows our

1184
00:44:57,581 --> 00:44:58,915
progress.

1185
00:44:58,915 --> 00:44:59,816
Even in the midst of the storm

1186
00:44:59,816 --> 00:45:02,216
and all that stuff.

1187
00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:02,852
I mean, we still covered a lot

1188
00:45:02,852 --> 00:45:04,688
of ground.

1189
00:45:04,688 --> 00:45:05,101
I'm very proud of you and your

1190
00:45:05,101 --> 00:45:07,101
staff.

1191
00:45:07,957 --> 00:45:08,392
Everything that y'all

1192
00:45:08,392 --> 00:45:09,426
accomplished.

1193
00:45:09,426 --> 00:45:11,161
Like joe says, sometimes we're

1194
00:45:11,161 --> 00:45:14,761
just a small part of this.

1195
00:45:15,232 --> 00:45:17,634
Y'all do all the work and I

1196
00:45:17,634 --> 00:45:17,935
can't express gratitude for

1197
00:45:17,935 --> 00:45:18,503
this.

1198
00:45:18,503 --> 00:45:20,903
Thank you so much.

1199
00:45:23,974 --> 00:45:24,274
>> I can't do it without you

1200
00:45:24,274 --> 00:45:25,430
guys.

1201
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:26,344
>> Chair Davis: I've told you

1202
00:45:26,344 --> 00:45:27,644
this before and I'm going to say

1203
00:45:27,644 --> 00:45:28,713
it in front these young people

1204
00:45:28,713 --> 00:45:31,113
and anyone watch particular

1205
00:45:31,282 --> 00:45:33,282
later on, we're

1206
00:45:37,655 --> 00:45:38,722
ing it later on.We're blessed to have team

1207
00:45:38,722 --> 00:45:39,127
members.

1208
00:45:39,127 --> 00:45:40,825
You have people at the top, in

1209
00:45:40,825 --> 00:45:41,158
the middle and down on the

1210
00:45:41,158 --> 00:45:42,593
ground.

1211
00:45:42,593 --> 00:45:44,295
I'm telling you, he is a rock

1212
00:45:44,295 --> 00:45:46,597
star and he akes things happen

1213
00:45:46,597 --> 00:45:48,198
and he makes us look good.

1214
00:45:48,198 --> 00:45:50,435
If things were going ideways,

1215
00:45:50,435 --> 00:45:52,300
he gets in our ear right away so

1216
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:52,337
we can elp him figure out an

1217
00:45:52,337 --> 00:45:54,337
answer.

1218
00:45:54,572 --> 00:45:55,639
Things rarely go sideways

1219
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:56,874
because he has, remember, all

1220
00:45:56,874 --> 00:45:58,643
the big things happen because

1221
00:45:58,643 --> 00:45:58,944
all the little things come into

1222
00:45:58,944 --> 00:46:00,511
play.

1223
00:46:00,511 --> 00:46:01,946
And if there's ever a

1224
00:46:01,946 --> 00:46:04,715
department, that has to have it

1225
00:46:04,715 --> 00:46:05,355
just right, it is your highway

1226
00:46:05,355 --> 00:46:07,355
department.

1227
00:46:07,653 --> 00:46:08,853
Building new roads are easy.

1228
00:46:08,853 --> 00:46:10,823
Repairing an existing road with

1229
00:46:10,823 --> 00:46:13,910
traffic on it and all the things

1230
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:14,426
that it involves, and s skip

1231
00:46:14,426 --> 00:46:15,960
mentioned stormwater run off,

1232
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,496
just because you get it off of

1233
00:46:17,496 --> 00:46:18,630
this spot, you've got to know

1234
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:20,630
where it's going.

1235
00:46:20,565 --> 00:46:21,733
And joey, I want to tell you

1236
00:46:21,733 --> 00:46:24,733
again how much I personally

1237
00:46:24,937 --> 00:46:26,905
appreciate being a small part of

1238
00:46:26,905 --> 00:46:28,905
this team.

1239
00:46:29,108 --> 00:46:29,808
>> thank you,.

1240
00:46:29,808 --> 00:46:31,109
>> Chair Davis: thank you.

1241
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:32,845
>> the picture that y'all see on

1242
00:46:32,845 --> 00:46:34,513
that screen right there is from

1243
00:46:34,513 --> 00:46:38,113
joey's picture he has hanging in

1244
00:46:39,985 --> 00:46:40,519
his office and I'm jealous of.

1245
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:42,455
That's a roundabout.

1246
00:46:42,455 --> 00:46:43,955
It's not a city far off.

1247
00:46:43,955 --> 00:46:45,955
It's a roundabout.

1248
00:46:46,425 --> 00:46:47,359
That's one in fairhope, right?

1249
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:49,359
>> yes.

1250
00:46:49,595 --> 00:46:51,995
that's fairhope avenue and 13

1251
00:46:52,364 --> 00:46:53,533
and actually, matthew brown

1252
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:56,533
actually took that picture at

1253
00:46:56,836 --> 00:46:57,603
night with a drawing.

1254
00:46:57,603 --> 00:46:59,710
Kudos to atthew.

1255
00:46:59,710 --> 00:47:00,673
>> there you go.

1256
00:47:00,673 --> 00:47:01,907
Like I told you, it's a team.

1257
00:47:01,907 --> 00:47:04,430
And we all jump in.

1258
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:04,344
Thank you, matthew for that as

1259
00:47:04,344 --> 00:47:06,344
well.

1260
00:47:06,879 --> 00:47:07,213
Let's move on to the next topic,

1261
00:47:07,213 --> 00:47:09,213
please.

1262
00:47:09,215 --> 00:47:09,682
>> Mr. Chairman, next are the

1263
00:47:09,682 --> 00:47:10,516
public hearings.

1264
00:47:10,516 --> 00:47:13,180
We have three of those.

1265
00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:16,618
And the first public hearing is

1266
00:47:17,523 --> 00:47:20,523
a rezoning case, case z-21003.

1267
00:47:22,429 --> 00:47:23,463
The garlet property rezoning.

1268
00:47:23,463 --> 00:47:24,531
>> Chair Davis: we need to open

1269
00:47:24,531 --> 00:47:24,831
this public hearing at this

1270
00:47:24,831 --> 00:47:25,598
point.

1271
00:47:25,598 --> 00:47:26,299
>> yes, sir.

1272
00:47:26,299 --> 00:47:27,367
>> Chair Davis: very good.

1273
00:47:27,367 --> 00:47:29,469
We're open to the public hearing

1274
00:47:29,469 --> 00:47:30,300
on the case just described.

1275
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:31,705
Yes, ma'am.

1276
00:47:31,705 --> 00:47:33,707
>> all right, this is a request

1277
00:47:33,707 --> 00:47:37,344
to rezone a little over half an

1278
00:47:37,344 --> 00:47:40,113
acre from rsf-1, single family.

1279
00:47:40,113 --> 00:47:42,549
And rsf-2 to ra to allow for a

1280
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:44,549
home occupation.

1281
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:49,119
The subject property is located

1282
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:49,590
on boykin boulevard in planning

1283
00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:51,325
district 22.

1284
00:47:51,325 --> 00:47:53,560
As you can see, there's two

1285
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,762
single family zonings on the

1286
00:47:54,762 --> 00:47:57,640
subject property but the

1287
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,366
applicant is requesting ra in

1288
00:47:59,366 --> 00:48:02,236
order to have a home occupation

1289
00:48:02,236 --> 00:48:05,836
to run a small deer processing

1290
00:48:06,774 --> 00:48:09,476
business out of the home.

1291
00:48:09,476 --> 00:48:10,545
This is an aerial photographer

1292
00:48:10,545 --> 00:48:12,447
the subject property.

1293
00:48:12,447 --> 00:48:15,350
There's a home on the property.

1294
00:48:15,350 --> 00:48:17,485
And that is where the applicant

1295
00:48:17,485 --> 00:48:21,850
plans to do his deer processing

1296
00:48:22,223 --> 00:48:23,792
in his home.

1297
00:48:23,792 --> 00:48:25,930
Here is a picture of the subject

1298
00:48:25,930 --> 00:48:26,261
property in his home, where he

1299
00:48:26,261 --> 00:48:28,661
plans to do it.

1300
00:48:30,932 --> 00:48:32,567
this is a survey.

1301
00:48:32,567 --> 00:48:34,169
The applicant, if the property

1302
00:48:34,169 --> 00:48:38,369
is rezoned to ra, he will have

1303
00:48:39,241 --> 00:48:41,109
to apply for a home occupation.

1304
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:43,478
The home occupation requirements

1305
00:48:43,478 --> 00:48:46,982
for rural areas is confined to

1306
00:48:46,982 --> 00:48:47,849
the principle building are an

1307
00:48:47,849 --> 00:48:49,585
accessory structure located on

1308
00:48:49,585 --> 00:48:49,997
the same lot at principle

1309
00:48:49,997 --> 00:48:51,997
building.

1310
00:48:53,522 --> 00:48:54,857
No display of products shall e

1311
00:48:54,857 --> 00:48:57,759
visible from the street and only

1312
00:48:57,759 --> 00:48:58,159
articles on the premises May be

1313
00:48:58,159 --> 00:48:59,560
sold.

1314
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,330
The role of home occupation must

1315
00:49:01,330 --> 00:49:03,132
be carried on solely by family

1316
00:49:03,132 --> 00:49:04,700
members and no person outside

1317
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:08,200
the family May be employed on

1318
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,438
the premises.

1319
00:49:09,438 --> 00:49:11,838
Staff has recommended approval.

1320
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:14,441
The planning commission also

1321
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:16,345
recommended approval at heir

1322
00:49:16,345 --> 00:49:18,345
meeting.

1323
00:49:19,215 --> 00:49:21,215
It was 6-0.

1324
00:49:23,453 --> 00:49:24,653
We did receive quite a few

1325
00:49:24,653 --> 00:49:26,880
letters and e-mails in

1326
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,857
opposition of this.

1327
00:49:27,857 --> 00:49:30,894
We did eceive a couple from

1328
00:49:30,894 --> 00:49:35,940
nearby that were in favor of it.

1329
00:49:35,265 --> 00:49:35,831
The planning ommission didn't

1330
00:49:35,831 --> 00:49:37,831
recommend approval.

1331
00:49:39,350 --> 00:49:40,203
>> Chair Davis: thank you,

1332
00:49:40,203 --> 00:49:41,338
ma'am, wayne, do we have anyone

1333
00:49:41,338 --> 00:49:42,472
to signed up to speak.

1334
00:49:42,472 --> 00:49:43,772
>> we have several.

1335
00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:47,972
The first person et to speak on

1336
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:52,849
this item is sherry scarborough.

1337
00:49:52,849 --> 00:49:56,449
>> wayne, can I ask you a

1338
00:49:57,754 --> 00:49:58,254
question, is the applicant here?

1339
00:49:58,254 --> 00:50:00,254
>> yes.

1340
00:50:01,324 --> 00:50:02,125
The applicant can go first.

1341
00:50:02,125 --> 00:50:03,860
>> Chair Davis: come to the

1342
00:50:03,860 --> 00:50:07,460
podium and state your name and

1343
00:50:09,166 --> 00:50:11,166
the topic, please.

1344
00:50:12,669 --> 00:50:15,400
>> how y'all, I'm josh, this is

1345
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,400
my property.

1346
00:50:17,307 --> 00:50:18,208
And pretty much what she

1347
00:50:18,208 --> 00:50:20,208
explained is correct.

1348
00:50:20,911 --> 00:50:23,547
We're locking to start a small

1349
00:50:23,547 --> 00:50:25,449
deer processing business in our

1350
00:50:25,449 --> 00:50:27,918
home which, like she also said,

1351
00:50:27,918 --> 00:50:30,520
with it being the home

1352
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,123
occupation, there will be no

1353
00:50:32,123 --> 00:50:34,924
signs of there even being a

1354
00:50:34,924 --> 00:50:35,325
business there from the street,

1355
00:50:35,325 --> 00:50:37,325
whatsoever.

1356
00:50:37,729 --> 00:50:39,763
Just so y'all understand what

1357
00:50:39,763 --> 00:50:41,299
deer processing is, in our mind,

1358
00:50:41,299 --> 00:50:44,299
because apparently a lot of

1359
00:50:44,735 --> 00:50:46,735
people think otherwise.

1360
00:50:48,539 --> 00:50:51,509
This is turning pre cut deer

1361
00:50:51,509 --> 00:50:51,876
meet into burgers, steaks,

1362
00:50:51,876 --> 00:50:53,876
sausages.

1363
00:50:54,379 --> 00:50:56,181
This is not dragging whole deer

1364
00:50:56,181 --> 00:50:56,781
in, gutting them, leaving

1365
00:50:56,781 --> 00:50:58,490
carcasses around.

1366
00:50:58,490 --> 00:51:00,490
Nothing like that.

1367
00:51:02,888 --> 00:51:04,756
So it's just a small family,

1368
00:51:04,756 --> 00:51:07,693
friends who will be processing

1369
00:51:07,693 --> 00:51:08,590
for and it will just be me and

1370
00:51:08,590 --> 00:51:09,561
my wife.

1371
00:51:09,561 --> 00:51:12,664
>> so people are going to bring

1372
00:51:12,664 --> 00:51:13,864
you a cooler full of pre cut

1373
00:51:13,864 --> 00:51:14,933
meat and you are going to turn

1374
00:51:14,933 --> 00:51:15,700
it into what they want.

1375
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:17,200
>> that's correct.

1376
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,223
>> no one is going to bring you

1377
00:51:19,223 --> 00:51:19,604
a deer to skin or clean.

1378
00:51:19,604 --> 00:51:20,739
>> that's correct.

1379
00:51:20,739 --> 00:51:23,275
Also, I'm sure it will get

1380
00:51:23,275 --> 00:51:26,111
brought up, because the game

1381
00:51:26,111 --> 00:51:28,147
warden has been set out to my

1382
00:51:28,147 --> 00:51:30,716
house once and reported doing

1383
00:51:30,716 --> 00:51:31,316
illegal deer processing

1384
00:51:31,316 --> 00:51:33,316
operation.

1385
00:51:33,885 --> 00:51:36,155
Which he found there's not true.

1386
00:51:36,155 --> 00:51:38,223
He actually gave me his number

1387
00:51:38,223 --> 00:51:40,291
and card nd told me if I needed

1388
00:51:40,291 --> 00:51:43,891
anything from him, to call him

1389
00:51:44,730 --> 00:51:45,764
and let him know.

1390
00:51:45,764 --> 00:51:47,433
Also, what I was going to say

1391
00:51:47,433 --> 00:51:50,680
about the illegal stuff, if the

1392
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,539
meat comes from florida, or any

1393
00:51:53,539 --> 00:51:53,839
other state, it has to be only

1394
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:55,839
meat.

1395
00:51:56,842 --> 00:51:59,512
There's no bone, no skull, no

1396
00:51:59,512 --> 00:52:00,580
type of carcasses whatsoever is

1397
00:52:00,580 --> 00:52:03,580
allowed into the state of

1398
00:52:05,485 --> 00:52:06,653
alabama from any other state.

1399
00:52:06,653 --> 00:52:07,553
Because of the C.W.D.

1400
00:52:07,553 --> 00:52:08,555
you have to keep records of all

1401
00:52:08,555 --> 00:52:09,522
of this.

1402
00:52:09,522 --> 00:52:11,922
There's a public hunting

1403
00:52:11,991 --> 00:52:13,626
property just down from my house

1404
00:52:13,626 --> 00:52:17,297
where you have access to hunt on

1405
00:52:17,297 --> 00:52:18,331
forever wild land.

1406
00:52:18,331 --> 00:52:18,631
The game warden is there all the

1407
00:52:18,631 --> 00:52:20,631
time.

1408
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,235
When he stopped by, he checked

1409
00:52:22,235 --> 00:52:22,535
and let us know what we have to

1410
00:52:22,535 --> 00:52:24,304
have.

1411
00:52:24,304 --> 00:52:27,400
You have to have a confirmation

1412
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:27,541
number for each deer that's

1413
00:52:27,541 --> 00:52:28,942
brought into you.

1414
00:52:28,942 --> 00:52:31,578
It shows who killed the deer,

1415
00:52:31,578 --> 00:52:34,246
where it was killed at and all

1416
00:52:34,246 --> 00:52:37,484
that paperwork has to be with

1417
00:52:37,484 --> 00:52:38,884
the meat the entire time.

1418
00:52:38,884 --> 00:52:40,530
So there's no real way of

1419
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:41,688
getting around that.

1420
00:52:41,688 --> 00:52:44,688
And also, something else that

1421
00:52:45,393 --> 00:52:47,294
would be brought up is that me

1422
00:52:47,294 --> 00:52:49,663
changing to rural agriculture,

1423
00:52:49,663 --> 00:52:52,663
there's going to bring down

1424
00:52:54,868 --> 00:52:56,360
other people's property values.

1425
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,571
I don't see that can happen.

1426
00:52:57,571 --> 00:53:00,875
The map out there just shows my

1427
00:53:00,875 --> 00:53:01,141
property and a couple besides

1428
00:53:01,141 --> 00:53:03,141
us.

1429
00:53:04,345 --> 00:53:04,655
My property is this lot right

1430
00:53:04,655 --> 00:53:06,247
here.

1431
00:53:06,247 --> 00:53:08,149
Every bit of this on our street

1432
00:53:08,149 --> 00:53:10,149
is rural agriculture.

1433
00:53:11,585 --> 00:53:13,687
Everything that is green -- how

1434
00:53:13,687 --> 00:53:17,287
could my one ittle piece right

1435
00:53:17,524 --> 00:53:19,560
here change any difference from

1436
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,395
all that?

1437
00:53:20,395 --> 00:53:23,995
Pretty much that's all we have.

1438
00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:24,465
I mean, I won't go into all the

1439
00:53:24,465 --> 00:53:26,465
negatives.

1440
00:53:27,835 --> 00:53:28,904
I know there's a petition and

1441
00:53:28,904 --> 00:53:30,905
there's stuff that's been said

1442
00:53:30,905 --> 00:53:32,905
that isn't true.

1443
00:53:33,374 --> 00:53:35,776
In first in the letter that was

1444
00:53:35,776 --> 00:53:39,376
sent to you all, stating that

1445
00:53:40,515 --> 00:53:42,650
the first meeting we had that I

1446
00:53:42,650 --> 00:53:45,190
spoke and it says Mr. Garlock

1447
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:46,487
spoke at the meeting legally

1448
00:53:46,487 --> 00:53:47,823
after his question and answer

1449
00:53:47,823 --> 00:53:50,258
session it should have never

1450
00:53:50,258 --> 00:53:53,327
been approved to even present to

1451
00:53:53,327 --> 00:53:55,327
the commissioners.

1452
00:53:58,433 --> 00:54:00,833
Mr. Garlock admitted he

1453
00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:02,104
discarded the deer meat in a

1454
00:54:02,104 --> 00:54:04,173
garbage can provided by baldwin

1455
00:54:04,173 --> 00:54:07,173
county solid waste on tuesday's.

1456
00:54:07,943 --> 00:54:08,444
Which this is illegal.

1457
00:54:08,444 --> 00:54:10,444
Completely untrue.

1458
00:54:10,646 --> 00:54:11,313
I don't know if y'all watch the

1459
00:54:11,313 --> 00:54:13,482
meeting that we had last one

1460
00:54:13,482 --> 00:54:13,883
where I got up and spoke and

1461
00:54:13,883 --> 00:54:15,883
everything.

1462
00:54:16,785 --> 00:54:17,620
I've watched it five or six

1463
00:54:17,620 --> 00:54:18,686
times.

1464
00:54:18,686 --> 00:54:20,456
Nowhere in there -- there was

1465
00:54:20,456 --> 00:54:22,224
only one person that mentioned

1466
00:54:22,224 --> 00:54:25,494
garbage pick up and that was one

1467
00:54:25,494 --> 00:54:26,662
of the people that was opposed

1468
00:54:26,662 --> 00:54:28,662
that spoke.

1469
00:54:32,235 --> 00:54:32,535
So I had not said anything about

1470
00:54:32,535 --> 00:54:33,803
that.

1471
00:54:33,803 --> 00:54:34,871
That's about it.

1472
00:54:34,871 --> 00:54:37,874
If you have any questions or

1473
00:54:37,874 --> 00:54:41,474
what not, I can answer them.

1474
00:54:43,179 --> 00:54:44,247
>> I have a question for you.

1475
00:54:44,247 --> 00:54:46,149
So, I understand a little bit

1476
00:54:46,149 --> 00:54:48,149
about deer processing.

1477
00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:48,751
I didn't have those

1478
00:54:48,751 --> 00:54:50,686
misconceptions.

1479
00:54:50,686 --> 00:54:52,255
I do have a question, you are

1480
00:54:52,255 --> 00:54:53,923
allowed to do your own personal

1481
00:54:53,923 --> 00:54:54,991
deer processing in your house if

1482
00:54:54,991 --> 00:54:56,660
you want to.

1483
00:54:56,660 --> 00:54:59,629
It's just that you are seeking

1484
00:54:59,629 --> 00:55:00,297
this because you want to form a

1485
00:55:00,297 --> 00:55:01,932
business or were you already

1486
00:55:01,932 --> 00:55:03,866
doing this as a business and

1487
00:55:03,866 --> 00:55:04,567
then found that you were not in

1488
00:55:04,567 --> 00:55:05,535
compliance?

1489
00:55:05,535 --> 00:55:06,969
That's my question.

1490
00:55:06,969 --> 00:55:07,337
>> I haven't done it as a

1491
00:55:07,337 --> 00:55:09,500
business.

1492
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:09,339
I have done it for friends and

1493
00:55:09,339 --> 00:55:10,874
family.

1494
00:55:10,874 --> 00:55:12,509
I do process my own deer meat.

1495
00:55:12,509 --> 00:55:12,809
I've been doing it my entire

1496
00:55:12,809 --> 00:55:14,440
life.

1497
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,444
>> and that's perfectly legal.

1498
00:55:17,714 --> 00:55:19,817
>> if I wanted to process say 15

1499
00:55:19,817 --> 00:55:23,386
of my friends, they all had deer

1500
00:55:23,386 --> 00:55:26,986
that were taken up to big-name

1501
00:55:27,690 --> 00:55:28,658
places paying $400 to get them

1502
00:55:28,658 --> 00:55:30,995
processed when can I do it for

1503
00:55:30,995 --> 00:55:34,640
half price or what not, there in

1504
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,499
the house, why not.

1505
00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:36,100
No, I haven't been operating as

1506
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:37,767
a business.

1507
00:55:37,767 --> 00:55:41,367
What I'm doing right now is

1508
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:43,341
trying to do the legal, right,

1509
00:55:43,341 --> 00:55:44,375
process.

1510
00:55:44,375 --> 00:55:47,975
>> that was a question and I'm

1511
00:55:48,450 --> 00:55:51,782
trying to figure out how you got

1512
00:55:51,782 --> 00:55:54,718
to this point of want to go

1513
00:55:54,718 --> 00:55:56,120
rezone because if you want to

1514
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,589
rezone to a rural agriculture,

1515
00:55:58,589 --> 00:55:59,690
even though I realize rural

1516
00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:02,900
agriculture is surrounding you

1517
00:56:04,461 --> 00:56:06,564
on one side, or a big portion, a

1518
00:56:06,564 --> 00:56:07,866
half acre is not generally

1519
00:56:07,866 --> 00:56:10,266
considered rural agriculture so

1520
00:56:11,536 --> 00:56:14,390
it just sparked me that, you

1521
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:16,875
know, this was the measure that

1522
00:56:16,875 --> 00:56:18,543
was suggested or that you

1523
00:56:18,543 --> 00:56:21,790
requested in order to do this.

1524
00:56:21,790 --> 00:56:22,847
I think of rural agriculture is

1525
00:56:22,847 --> 00:56:24,248
bigger parcels of property.

1526
00:56:24,248 --> 00:56:26,318
Even though you might be

1527
00:56:26,318 --> 00:56:27,152
connected, I mean, do you own

1528
00:56:27,152 --> 00:56:28,452
any of the other --

1529
00:56:28,452 --> 00:56:30,621
>> I don't own any of that.

1530
00:56:30,621 --> 00:56:34,221
There are smaller lots on the

1531
00:56:34,660 --> 00:56:36,795
road here that are smaller than

1532
00:56:36,795 --> 00:56:39,795
mine hat are rural agriculture.

1533
00:56:40,699 --> 00:56:41,400
The rural agriculture bill was

1534
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,400
suggested to me.

1535
00:56:43,669 --> 00:56:45,638
When I went to zoning, we called

1536
00:56:45,638 --> 00:56:46,272
around trying to find out ex low

1537
00:56:46,272 --> 00:56:48,272
what

1538
00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:53,446
exactly what we needed to do.

1539
00:56:53,446 --> 00:56:53,979
I don't want to keep giving you

1540
00:56:53,979 --> 00:56:55,381
your opportunity.

1541
00:56:55,381 --> 00:56:57,850
What I'm saying, is probably the

1542
00:56:57,850 --> 00:56:59,318
ones that are smaller lots,

1543
00:56:59,318 --> 00:57:01,320
those were probably when the

1544
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,122
zoning came no

1545
00:57:03,122 --> 00:57:05,240
came into place, that was

1546
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:06,593
the exiting use so they didn't

1547
00:57:06,593 --> 00:57:08,961
rezone it to residential.

1548
00:57:08,961 --> 00:57:09,294
I'm just trying to get this in

1549
00:57:09,294 --> 00:57:11,294
my mind.

1550
00:57:17,770 --> 00:57:18,137
i don't really have in anymore

1551
00:57:18,137 --> 00:57:18,938
questions.

1552
00:57:18,938 --> 00:57:20,372
The Chairman Can control the

1553
00:57:20,372 --> 00:57:22,975
number of minutes that llow

1554
00:57:22,975 --> 00:57:25,111
people to peak I don't to get

1555
00:57:25,111 --> 00:57:26,146
the public hearing too lengthy.

1556
00:57:26,146 --> 00:57:27,347
>> yes, ma'am.

1557
00:57:27,347 --> 00:57:28,648
That was recommended to me by

1558
00:57:28,648 --> 00:57:30,216
the planning and zoning.

1559
00:57:30,216 --> 00:57:31,952
When we alled around trying to

1560
00:57:31,952 --> 00:57:33,286
ask hat we need today do to

1561
00:57:33,286 --> 00:57:34,621
make everything legal, we sat

1562
00:57:34,621 --> 00:57:35,522
down and they really didn't know

1563
00:57:35,522 --> 00:57:36,824
what to do.

1564
00:57:36,824 --> 00:57:38,692
They went through the books and

1565
00:57:38,692 --> 00:57:40,393
we sat there for an hour or so

1566
00:57:40,393 --> 00:57:41,661
and they said they didn't have

1567
00:57:41,661 --> 00:57:44,564
any real request so what they

1568
00:57:44,564 --> 00:57:45,899
came up with was to rezone to

1569
00:57:45,899 --> 00:57:48,899
rural agriculture to have the

1570
00:57:50,169 --> 00:57:51,438
home occupation.

1571
00:57:51,438 --> 00:57:52,306
>> skip, do you have any

1572
00:57:52,306 --> 00:57:52,806
questions or comments?

1573
00:57:52,806 --> 00:57:54,575
>> no.

1574
00:57:54,575 --> 00:57:54,908
>> all right.

1575
00:57:54,908 --> 00:57:56,908
>> jeb.

1576
00:57:57,478 --> 00:57:58,145
>> o, sir.

1577
00:57:58,145 --> 00:57:58,812
Jurisdiction let me ask you

1578
00:57:58,812 --> 00:58:00,812
something, I'm from

1579
00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:05,619
>> Chair Davis: let me ask you,I'm from the country and we've

1580
00:58:05,619 --> 00:58:07,555
killed a couple of eer and we

1581
00:58:07,555 --> 00:58:07,855
have them on the back of a

1582
00:58:07,855 --> 00:58:09,255
truck.

1583
00:58:09,255 --> 00:58:10,424
We don't have them ready and we

1584
00:58:10,424 --> 00:58:12,193
pull up to your house.

1585
00:58:12,193 --> 00:58:13,260
What would you tell us?

1586
00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:17,460
Where would you send us so we

1587
00:58:18,321 --> 00:58:18,422
wouldn't get you in trouble with

1588
00:58:18,422 --> 00:58:18,966
what you are proposing?

1589
00:58:18,966 --> 00:58:21,134
>> I would probably recommend

1590
00:58:21,134 --> 00:58:24,739
that you took it back to the

1591
00:58:24,739 --> 00:58:27,375
property that it came from.

1592
00:58:27,375 --> 00:58:29,710
Normally, when deer hunters have

1593
00:58:29,710 --> 00:58:30,545
property, they have hat you

1594
00:58:30,545 --> 00:58:31,846
call a gut pile.

1595
00:58:31,846 --> 00:58:33,982
They clean their deer at the

1596
00:58:33,982 --> 00:58:34,281
camp and they discard of the

1597
00:58:34,281 --> 00:58:36,281
bones.

1598
00:58:36,818 --> 00:58:38,119
The carcass and guts in the

1599
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:38,419
woods and nature takes care of

1600
00:58:38,419 --> 00:58:40,419
that.

1601
00:58:40,955 --> 00:58:42,390
And you bring out the meat.

1602
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:45,493
If you will check around, most

1603
00:58:45,493 --> 00:58:47,128
other places, there's too much

1604
00:58:47,128 --> 00:58:48,830
so lose for having -- you really

1605
00:58:48,830 --> 00:58:50,565
can't do the whole carcass.

1606
00:58:50,565 --> 00:58:52,000
It's not worth it to make a few

1607
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,335
extra bucks to have that -- like

1608
00:58:53,335 --> 00:58:55,403
you say, I would have to take

1609
00:58:55,403 --> 00:58:57,639
care of it and do something with

1610
00:58:57,639 --> 00:58:59,107
it and if I don't own property,

1611
00:58:59,107 --> 00:59:00,420
I'm taking that carcass to a

1612
00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:01,776
different piece of property

1613
00:59:01,776 --> 00:59:04,176
where it came from.

1614
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,647
That's what I would recommend.

1615
00:59:05,647 --> 00:59:07,150
>> Chair Davis: so you have a

1616
00:59:07,150 --> 00:59:08,584
system or a protocol that would

1617
00:59:08,584 --> 00:59:09,919
address that should it happen?

1618
00:59:09,919 --> 00:59:11,220
>> yes, sir.

1619
00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:13,121
I mean, I wouldn't --

1620
00:59:13,121 --> 00:59:15,190
>> I think people will know

1621
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:16,958
before they came to you, because

1622
00:59:16,958 --> 00:59:19,958
these places around here, they

1623
00:59:21,630 --> 00:59:24,630
can only bring the meat.

1624
00:59:26,935 --> 00:59:27,670
He is not going to advertise it

1625
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:28,136
jurisdiction someone would have

1626
00:59:28,136 --> 00:59:30,136
to told

1627
00:59:32,741 --> 00:59:33,675
advertising.

1628
00:59:33,675 --> 00:59:34,376
>> Chair Davis: one last

1629
00:59:34,376 --> 00:59:35,176
question.

1630
00:59:35,176 --> 00:59:37,176
From this process.

1631
00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:39,414
Based on what you will receive,

1632
00:59:39,414 --> 00:59:42,180
what sort of disposal, what

1633
00:59:42,180 --> 00:59:45,618
would be involved in the garbage

1634
00:59:45,722 --> 00:59:48,524
or he refuge that would be

1635
00:59:48,524 --> 00:59:50,526
leftover and that you would

1636
00:59:50,526 --> 00:59:51,694
encloud in your garbage pick up.

1637
00:59:51,694 --> 00:59:53,196
>> the garbage, we talked to

1638
00:59:53,196 --> 00:59:56,990
baldwin county solid waste and

1639
00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:57,867
there is a special container

1640
00:59:57,867 --> 00:59:58,701
that they will bring to you for

1641
00:59:58,701 --> 00:59:59,836
having this.

1642
00:59:59,836 --> 01:00:01,805
If there is, which it was

1643
01:00:01,805 --> 01:00:04,274
brought up in the other meeting

1644
01:00:04,274 --> 01:00:07,274
also, about being meat disposed,

1645
01:00:07,344 --> 01:00:09,279
there's going to be a few

1646
01:00:09,279 --> 01:00:11,681
pieces, we've contacted the zoo

1647
01:00:11,681 --> 01:00:11,982
and the zoo takes stuff like

1648
01:00:11,982 --> 01:00:13,750
that.

1649
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:16,219
You can bag it, freeze it and

1650
01:00:16,219 --> 01:00:16,486
put it in the cooler and keep

1651
01:00:16,486 --> 01:00:18,486
it.

1652
01:00:19,255 --> 01:00:19,956
Take it and donate to the zoo.

1653
01:00:19,956 --> 01:00:22,356
>> Chair Davis: very good.

1654
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:24,194
Those were things that were

1655
01:00:24,194 --> 01:00:25,762
expressed to me and things that

1656
01:00:25,762 --> 01:00:26,797
I wanted to give you an

1657
01:00:26,797 --> 01:00:27,164
opportunity to share with

1658
01:00:27,164 --> 01:00:27,664
everyone.

1659
01:00:27,664 --> 01:00:28,970
I appreciate that.

1660
01:00:28,970 --> 01:00:29,633
>> yes, sir.

1661
01:00:29,633 --> 01:00:30,334
Thank you.

1662
01:00:30,334 --> 01:00:32,734
>> Chair Davis: thank you.

1663
01:00:32,903 --> 01:00:36,503
>> the next speaker signed up is

1664
01:00:44,715 --> 01:00:46,715
lauren garlock.

1665
01:00:53,424 --> 01:00:55,126
>> next speaker is gale beach.

1666
01:00:55,126 --> 01:00:56,260
>> as a community, we are very

1667
01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:57,562
opposed to this.

1668
01:00:57,562 --> 01:00:58,796
Y'all have received numerous

1669
01:00:58,796 --> 01:01:01,796
e-mails from the community and

1670
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:04,736
we also did a petition and

1671
01:01:04,736 --> 01:01:06,700
you've gotten over 85 signatures

1672
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:06,571
that we are definitely opposed

1673
01:01:06,571 --> 01:01:07,872
to this.

1674
01:01:07,872 --> 01:01:12,720
And the reason why we feel like

1675
01:01:12,933 --> 01:01:13,360
it will bring our property

1676
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,780
values down.

1677
01:01:14,780 --> 01:01:14,913
You know, it just opens

1678
01:01:14,913 --> 01:01:16,815
pandora's box.

1679
01:01:16,815 --> 01:01:18,316
If we allow this to happen, then

1680
01:01:18,316 --> 01:01:19,484
maybe two months down the road,

1681
01:01:19,484 --> 01:01:23,684
someone is going to come to you

1682
01:01:23,788 --> 01:01:25,656
and say hey, I want to open up a

1683
01:01:25,656 --> 01:01:26,256
business and I want to work on

1684
01:01:26,256 --> 01:01:27,993
used cars.

1685
01:01:27,993 --> 01:01:28,226
And so then we're going to have

1686
01:01:28,226 --> 01:01:29,293
that.

1687
01:01:29,293 --> 01:01:30,328
Would you want that in your

1688
01:01:30,328 --> 01:01:32,728
community or your neighborhood?

1689
01:01:34,498 --> 01:01:36,401
I don't think so.

1690
01:01:36,401 --> 01:01:38,770
Regarding josh, and I'm going to

1691
01:01:38,770 --> 01:01:39,538
call him josh instead of

1692
01:01:39,538 --> 01:01:40,405
Mr. Garlock, it has nothing to

1693
01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:41,807
do with him.

1694
01:01:41,807 --> 01:01:42,640
He is a great guy.

1695
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,640
We love him.

1696
01:01:46,845 --> 01:01:47,213
We just want him to do it in a

1697
01:01:47,213 --> 01:01:49,213
business.

1698
01:01:49,781 --> 01:01:50,749
He can go up on 98 and open up a

1699
01:01:50,749 --> 01:01:53,118
business there and do it.

1700
01:01:53,118 --> 01:01:53,719
i'm sure everyone would support

1701
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:55,719
him.

1702
01:01:55,721 --> 01:01:57,890
Regarding, I think it was

1703
01:01:57,890 --> 01:02:00,689
suzanne wells, when she spoke at

1704
01:02:00,793 --> 01:02:02,660
the last meeting, she did ask

1705
01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:05,865
josh and I could have swore I

1706
01:02:05,865 --> 01:02:07,299
heard him say, I put it in the

1707
01:02:07,299 --> 01:02:10,299
garbage can with the waste

1708
01:02:10,409 --> 01:02:10,812
products.

1709
01:02:10,812 --> 01:02:13,272
Well, then we called Mr. Ed fox,

1710
01:02:13,272 --> 01:02:14,807
he is the director with the

1711
01:02:14,807 --> 01:02:16,709
solid waste, and he said you

1712
01:02:16,709 --> 01:02:17,900
know, you can absolutely not do

1713
01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:19,900
that.

1714
01:02:20,413 --> 01:02:23,830
He has to have a commercial bin

1715
01:02:23,830 --> 01:02:24,950
out there to dispose of the

1716
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:26,950
waste.

1717
01:02:26,753 --> 01:02:29,422
And then we went ahead and we

1718
01:02:29,422 --> 01:02:31,457
have no hronic wasting disease

1719
01:02:31,457 --> 01:02:34,194
in the state of alabama.

1720
01:02:34,194 --> 01:02:37,530
That's what a deer gets in a

1721
01:02:37,530 --> 01:02:38,231
human terms that's kind of like

1722
01:02:38,231 --> 01:02:40,231
mad cow disease.

1723
01:02:40,967 --> 01:02:44,404
And so, the deer, in the state

1724
01:02:44,404 --> 01:02:45,372
of alabama, we do not have that

1725
01:02:45,372 --> 01:02:47,372
yet.

1726
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,840
It's guarded and protected and

1727
01:02:51,110 --> 01:02:51,745
the deer are tagged and

1728
01:02:51,745 --> 01:02:53,480
everything.

1729
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,582
However, they have been noted to

1730
01:02:55,582 --> 01:02:56,450
be 25 miles outside of alabama

1731
01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:58,450
in mississippi.

1732
01:02:58,919 --> 01:03:02,289
And so, f I'm not mistaken, at

1733
01:03:02,289 --> 01:03:05,292
the last meeting, josh said that

1734
01:03:05,292 --> 01:03:06,827
he and his buddies go over to

1735
01:03:06,827 --> 01:03:08,696
florida, they take the deer

1736
01:03:08,696 --> 01:03:11,297
apart and they bring back the

1737
01:03:11,297 --> 01:03:12,966
parts and clean it.

1738
01:03:12,966 --> 01:03:15,569
Well, it is against the rules, I

1739
01:03:15,569 --> 01:03:18,172
mean, you cannot transport a

1740
01:03:18,172 --> 01:03:19,600
deer from one state to another

1741
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:19,840
state.

1742
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,642
That's illegal.

1743
01:03:21,642 --> 01:03:23,977
And maybe we'll do it all from

1744
01:03:23,977 --> 01:03:26,977
clark county or whatever, we

1745
01:03:27,648 --> 01:03:28,316
cannot do it from florida or any

1746
01:03:28,316 --> 01:03:30,316
other state.

1747
01:03:30,751 --> 01:03:32,786
>> you can transport the meat.

1748
01:03:32,786 --> 01:03:35,786
You just can't transport the

1749
01:03:37,291 --> 01:03:38,693
skeleton and bone marrow.

1750
01:03:38,693 --> 01:03:40,928
meat can be transported back.

1751
01:03:40,928 --> 01:03:42,931
>> well, this information came,

1752
01:03:42,931 --> 01:03:43,297
I mean, we did a lot of

1753
01:03:43,297 --> 01:03:44,398
research.

1754
01:03:44,398 --> 01:03:46,798
>> meat doesn't have chronic

1755
01:03:47,301 --> 01:03:48,200
waste and disease, it's within

1756
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,771
the bone marrow and that's why

1757
01:03:49,771 --> 01:03:53,371
people that kill these deer, and

1758
01:03:53,507 --> 01:03:54,476
they want to bring back the big

1759
01:03:54,476 --> 01:03:57,445
head mounts and all that stuff,

1760
01:03:57,445 --> 01:03:58,413
they can't do it.

1761
01:03:58,413 --> 01:04:00,315
It has to be dried out.

1762
01:04:00,315 --> 01:04:01,716
Just cutting the meat off, I

1763
01:04:01,716 --> 01:04:02,751
don't know if there's anybody

1764
01:04:02,751 --> 01:04:04,453
here that can speak to that.

1765
01:04:04,453 --> 01:04:07,656
>> well, let me just tell you,

1766
01:04:07,656 --> 01:04:10,125
with chronic wasting disease, a

1767
01:04:10,125 --> 01:04:13,725
deer appears normal and they do

1768
01:04:13,996 --> 01:04:16,640
not show any sign of disease for

1769
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,633
two months to two years.

1770
01:04:17,633 --> 01:04:19,401
So, the only way you are going

1771
01:04:19,401 --> 01:04:21,803
to know if it has chronic

1772
01:04:21,803 --> 01:04:23,806
wasting disease, is to

1773
01:04:23,806 --> 01:04:25,474
to

1774
01:04:25,474 --> 01:04:26,208
to biopsy

1775
01:04:26,208 --> 01:04:27,743
that brain.

1776
01:04:27,743 --> 01:04:29,511
You don't know if this is an

1777
01:04:29,511 --> 01:04:31,911
infected deer or not.

1778
01:04:32,581 --> 01:04:34,650
That is the reason why I will

1779
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:37,452
find and give it to you where we

1780
01:04:37,452 --> 01:04:38,187
found that information about

1781
01:04:38,187 --> 01:04:40,187
crossing state lines.

1782
01:04:42,925 --> 01:04:44,894
And it says, any part of the

1783
01:04:44,894 --> 01:04:46,894
deer.

1784
01:04:48,864 --> 01:04:50,133
And then, let's see.

1785
01:04:50,133 --> 01:04:52,268
It was referencing the

1786
01:04:52,268 --> 01:04:53,937
guidelines posted in outdoor

1787
01:04:53,937 --> 01:04:55,672
alabama, that's where we got

1788
01:04:55,672 --> 01:04:57,373
this information.

1789
01:04:57,373 --> 01:04:58,408
I had that at the house but I

1790
01:04:58,408 --> 01:05:00,808
didn't bring t I

1791
01:05:01,577 --> 01:05:02,245
it, but I will get

1792
01:05:02,245 --> 01:05:03,780
it to you.

1793
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:06,582
We would just like he request in

1794
01:05:06,582 --> 01:05:08,651
do this in a more suitable area.

1795
01:05:08,651 --> 01:05:11,855
My question to you, would you

1796
01:05:11,855 --> 01:05:14,223
like it in your neighborhood?

1797
01:05:14,223 --> 01:05:15,859
That's all I have.

1798
01:05:15,859 --> 01:05:17,590
We're worried about it bringing

1799
01:05:17,590 --> 01:05:19,459
down the property value.

1800
01:05:21,631 --> 01:05:22,699
he said that he was not growing

1801
01:05:22,699 --> 01:05:24,699
with the poem

1802
01:05:25,369 --> 01:05:26,136
people moving in and

1803
01:05:26,136 --> 01:05:26,636
building million dollar homes.

1804
01:05:26,636 --> 01:05:28,636
It's coming.

1805
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:30,740
Like at 98 and all the

1806
01:05:30,740 --> 01:05:31,675
subdivisions they're plan to go

1807
01:05:31,675 --> 01:05:33,675
build on 98.

1808
01:05:33,943 --> 01:05:34,311
We're going to talk about four

1809
01:05:34,311 --> 01:05:36,311
laning 98.

1810
01:05:36,780 --> 01:05:39,216
I mean, lillian say little bitty

1811
01:05:39,216 --> 01:05:41,452
area down there that is out of

1812
01:05:41,452 --> 01:05:45,289
the way no one in baldwin county

1813
01:05:45,289 --> 01:05:46,823
thinks about it but the ones

1814
01:05:46,823 --> 01:05:50,761
that live there we want to be a

1815
01:05:50,761 --> 01:05:53,161
part of that community.

1816
01:05:53,597 --> 01:05:55,298
Where very opposed and there's

1817
01:05:55,298 --> 01:05:55,833
85 signatures, they came from 99

1818
01:05:55,833 --> 01:05:57,833
north.

1819
01:05:58,803 --> 01:06:00,700
Which is our side of --

1820
01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:02,173
everybody thinks bout lillian,

1821
01:06:02,173 --> 01:06:05,173
the cove, well, there's another

1822
01:06:06,677 --> 01:06:09,460
section over there also.

1823
01:06:09,460 --> 01:06:10,348
You've got to have a solid waste

1824
01:06:10,348 --> 01:06:13,348
container to put that residual

1825
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:16,487
of the deer in and it's

1826
01:06:16,487 --> 01:06:18,487
.53 acres.

1827
01:06:20,358 --> 01:06:21,292
How is that going to look in the

1828
01:06:21,292 --> 01:06:23,292
neighborhood?

1829
01:06:23,328 --> 01:06:23,928
We're very opposed to this.

1830
01:06:23,928 --> 01:06:25,928
>> Chair Davis: ok.

1831
01:06:27,665 --> 01:06:29,000
We need to adhere where we can.

1832
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,367
Are you ready to wrap-up your

1833
01:06:29,367 --> 01:06:30,869
comments?

1834
01:06:30,869 --> 01:06:31,970
>> yes, sir.

1835
01:06:31,970 --> 01:06:33,103
Unless anyone has any questions.

1836
01:06:33,103 --> 01:06:33,904
>> Chair Davis: are there any

1837
01:06:33,904 --> 01:06:35,373
questions or comments?

1838
01:06:35,373 --> 01:06:37,509
If not we appreciate you coming

1839
01:06:37,509 --> 01:06:38,900
forward and providing us with

1840
01:06:38,900 --> 01:06:38,777
this information.

1841
01:06:38,777 --> 01:06:40,211
Thank you, ma'am.

1842
01:06:40,211 --> 01:06:42,211
>> thank you, sir.

1843
01:06:42,614 --> 01:06:45,614
>> are there others to speak.

1844
01:06:52,924 --> 01:06:54,826
>> next Mrs. Sherry scarborough.

1845
01:06:54,826 --> 01:06:57,290
>> Chair Davis: let the record

1846
01:06:57,290 --> 01:06:58,330
reflect, she was not first, ok.

1847
01:06:58,330 --> 01:07:01,930
>> I don't like to go first.

1848
01:07:02,868 --> 01:07:04,868
Good morning, everyone.

1849
01:07:08,507 --> 01:07:11,577
I also live on boykin boulevard.

1850
01:07:11,577 --> 01:07:14,180
josh, I know exactly where your

1851
01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:15,881
house is.

1852
01:07:15,881 --> 01:07:17,783
I normally would not have any

1853
01:07:17,783 --> 01:07:19,352
problem with this whatsoever,

1854
01:07:19,352 --> 01:07:21,752
except for your concern.

1855
01:07:22,221 --> 01:07:22,587
I don't think you have enough

1856
01:07:22,587 --> 01:07:24,557
property.

1857
01:07:24,557 --> 01:07:26,626
If you had an acre, a full acre,

1858
01:07:26,626 --> 01:07:29,562
two acres, I would say go for it

1859
01:07:29,562 --> 01:07:31,464
and I would tell people about

1860
01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:32,632
your processing place and send

1861
01:07:32,632 --> 01:07:34,632
business to you.

1862
01:07:35,234 --> 01:07:37,300
You don't have enough room.

1863
01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:38,338
You are wedged in there between

1864
01:07:38,338 --> 01:07:41,338
your mom's property and your

1865
01:07:42,241 --> 01:07:42,976
house that you grew up in and

1866
01:07:42,976 --> 01:07:44,440
that's just it.

1867
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,440
You did

1868
01:07:46,213 --> 01:07:47,314
don't have enough place.

1869
01:07:47,314 --> 01:07:50,314
If this is allowed, there's

1870
01:08:07,667 --> 01:08:09,669
going to be other businesses --

1871
01:08:09,669 --> 01:08:13,869
if you bring a deer that's been

1872
01:08:16,310 --> 01:08:17,878
shot in clark county, you would

1873
01:08:17,878 --> 01:08:20,714
tell them to take it back where

1874
01:08:20,714 --> 01:08:21,728
they shot it and field dress it

1875
01:08:21,728 --> 01:08:21,882
out.

1876
01:08:21,882 --> 01:08:22,183
No, they're not going to do

1877
01:08:22,183 --> 01:08:24,183
that.

1878
01:08:25,385 --> 01:08:26,420
They're going to go on

1879
01:08:26,420 --> 01:08:28,420
on he

1880
01:08:28,723 --> 01:08:30,591
avenue where there's deer dumped

1881
01:08:30,591 --> 01:08:34,191
this year and my property is

1882
01:08:34,828 --> 01:08:37,298
right in front of forever wide,

1883
01:08:37,298 --> 01:08:38,833
which goes down oak street and

1884
01:08:38,833 --> 01:08:41,670
opens up into forever wild.

1885
01:08:41,670 --> 01:08:42,470
That's where they get deer

1886
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:44,739
carcasses have been this year.

1887
01:08:44,739 --> 01:08:47,307
I'm not saying they came and did

1888
01:08:47,307 --> 01:08:48,643
that and brought it to josh, I'm

1889
01:08:48,643 --> 01:08:51,643
just saying that we've already

1890
01:08:52,180 --> 01:08:54,580
had people dumping illegally

1891
01:08:56,351 --> 01:08:58,686
deer carcasses right there on

1892
01:08:58,686 --> 01:08:59,870
rester off, in my backyard

1893
01:08:59,870 --> 01:09:00,722
practically.

1894
01:09:00,722 --> 01:09:03,722
I'm just saying there's a

1895
01:09:04,225 --> 01:09:05,793
possibility that this would

1896
01:09:05,793 --> 01:09:06,161
increase the illegal deer

1897
01:09:06,161 --> 01:09:08,630
carcasses.

1898
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:08,429
This is not the place for this

1899
01:09:08,429 --> 01:09:10,429
business.

1900
01:09:14,569 --> 01:09:16,571
it really is not.

1901
01:09:16,571 --> 01:09:19,408
I wish whoa find a larger place.

1902
01:09:19,408 --> 01:09:19,707
This looks like rester back

1903
01:09:19,707 --> 01:09:20,141
there.

1904
01:09:20,141 --> 01:09:21,743
I don't know.

1905
01:09:21,743 --> 01:09:23,979
I don't know what the zoning it

1906
01:09:23,979 --> 01:09:26,415
on the street behind us but this

1907
01:09:26,415 --> 01:09:26,824
where josh is now, it's not the

1908
01:09:26,824 --> 01:09:28,500
place.

1909
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:31,220
I don't think because he is just

1910
01:09:31,220 --> 01:09:32,521
doesn't have enough area.

1911
01:09:32,521 --> 01:09:34,423
I just don't think this is where

1912
01:09:34,423 --> 01:09:35,435
it needs to be and this is all I

1913
01:09:35,435 --> 01:09:35,724
have to say.

1914
01:09:35,724 --> 01:09:36,825
>> Chair Davis: all right.

1915
01:09:36,825 --> 01:09:39,225
Any questions or comments?

1916
01:09:40,996 --> 01:09:41,296
Thank you.

1917
01:09:41,296 --> 01:09:43,296
Ma'am.

1918
01:09:44,867 --> 01:09:47,267
Next speaker is carl.

1919
01:09:48,504 --> 01:09:52,104
He is coming from the outside.

1920
01:09:53,376 --> 01:09:56,376
>> Chair Davis: here he comes.

1921
01:09:56,945 --> 01:09:58,247
>> if you would, carl, confine

1922
01:09:58,247 --> 01:10:01,247
your comments to three minutes

1923
01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:04,453
and I'll give you thumbs up when --

1924
01:10:04,453 --> 01:10:05,787
>> I'm not a big speaker.

1925
01:10:05,787 --> 01:10:07,256
>> Chair Davis: go ahead we need

1926
01:10:07,256 --> 01:10:09,656
to hear your message.

1927
01:10:13,196 --> 01:10:15,231
>> I live on boykin boulevard

1928
01:10:15,231 --> 01:10:15,598
and I'm appalled him in this

1929
01:10:15,598 --> 01:10:17,598
position.

1930
01:10:20,403 --> 01:10:20,670
I didn't think we would get this

1931
01:10:20,670 --> 01:10:22,439
far.

1932
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,442
As far as I'm concerned, call it

1933
01:10:25,442 --> 01:10:28,442
what you will, you know.

1934
01:10:28,711 --> 01:10:31,915
You want to call it deer

1935
01:10:31,915 --> 01:10:32,716
processing or call it

1936
01:10:32,716 --> 01:10:33,283
slaughterhouse?

1937
01:10:33,283 --> 01:10:35,283
I don't know.

1938
01:10:35,952 --> 01:10:39,456
I can't corral the deer to get

1939
01:10:39,456 --> 01:10:39,957
them over to his place so he can

1940
01:10:39,957 --> 01:10:41,957
process them.

1941
01:10:42,125 --> 01:10:43,794
Just short of that, we got a

1942
01:10:43,794 --> 01:10:46,663
problem here finding where this

1943
01:10:46,663 --> 01:10:47,364
is going to be one.

1944
01:10:47,364 --> 01:10:48,465
The whole process.

1945
01:10:48,465 --> 01:10:50,465
The whole process.

1946
01:10:50,601 --> 01:10:51,668
Not the processing house.

1947
01:10:51,668 --> 01:10:53,668
The whole process.

1948
01:10:57,541 --> 01:10:59,543
Other people brought that up.

1949
01:10:59,543 --> 01:11:02,543
I don't know, messing around

1950
01:11:03,346 --> 01:11:04,281
with virtually wet markets, I

1951
01:11:04,281 --> 01:11:07,281
mean, that's why we're all

1952
01:11:07,618 --> 01:11:09,618
wearing masks, right.

1953
01:11:10,587 --> 01:11:13,587
We believe that somehow this

1954
01:11:13,691 --> 01:11:13,990
animal thing and people, you

1955
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:15,959
know.

1956
01:11:15,959 --> 01:11:18,959
You get what ou have.

1957
01:11:21,210 --> 01:11:23,670
Swine flu and now some kind of

1958
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:23,401
mad cow disease or mad deer

1959
01:11:23,401 --> 01:11:23,835
disease.

1960
01:11:23,835 --> 01:11:25,835
I don't know.

1961
01:11:30,842 --> 01:11:33,842
I don't know about that.

1962
01:11:37,348 --> 01:11:37,681
>> Ches Crosbie: opposed to thisi am

1963
01:11:37,681 --> 01:11:39,681
opposed.

1964
01:11:54,466 --> 01:11:56,467
It will drop the property value,

1965
01:11:56,467 --> 01:11:57,869
.

1966
01:11:57,869 --> 01:11:59,171
I'm not going to use your time

1967
01:11:59,171 --> 01:12:00,573
but thank you.

1968
01:12:00,573 --> 01:12:01,273
>> Chair Davis: got any

1969
01:12:01,273 --> 01:12:02,241
questions?

1970
01:12:02,241 --> 01:12:04,641
We appreciate your input.

1971
01:12:05,844 --> 01:12:07,413
Thank you, sir.

1972
01:12:07,413 --> 01:12:10,413
>> the last speaker we have

1973
01:12:12,117 --> 01:12:15,117
signed up is jerry key.

1974
01:12:19,592 --> 01:12:21,992
>> Chair Davis: Mr. Key.

1975
01:12:22,895 --> 01:12:24,997
>> I'm jerry key from lillian.

1976
01:12:24,997 --> 01:12:27,432
I live right next door to josh

1977
01:12:27,432 --> 01:12:29,802
and I'm his stepfather.

1978
01:12:29,802 --> 01:12:30,103
I am a commercial fisherman by

1979
01:12:30,103 --> 01:12:32,103
trade.

1980
01:12:32,404 --> 01:12:33,940
I have a small business right

1981
01:12:33,940 --> 01:12:35,508
there out of my house.

1982
01:12:35,508 --> 01:12:37,610
Which is the same thing that my

1983
01:12:37,610 --> 01:12:41,114
dad did and his dad and his dad

1984
01:12:41,114 --> 01:12:44,114
for over 200 years in lillian.

1985
01:12:44,817 --> 01:12:45,118
Lillian is named after my great

1986
01:12:45,118 --> 01:12:46,919
aunt.

1987
01:12:46,919 --> 01:12:48,454
My family has run just a small

1988
01:12:48,454 --> 01:12:50,854
family business like that.

1989
01:12:51,724 --> 01:12:55,324
Like I said, for over 200 years.

1990
01:12:56,290 --> 01:12:57,230
I don't see a problem at all.

1991
01:12:57,230 --> 01:12:59,799
I'm sure with the waste and

1992
01:12:59,799 --> 01:13:03,269
smell it can't be worse than the

1993
01:13:03,269 --> 01:13:05,669
fisherman, whatever he does

1994
01:13:06,205 --> 01:13:07,774
there.

1995
01:13:07,774 --> 01:13:09,710
I just don't know why he can't

1996
01:13:09,710 --> 01:13:13,310
have a little business when all

1997
01:13:15,616 --> 01:13:16,450
the people now that are

1998
01:13:16,450 --> 01:13:17,500
complaining is they're worried

1999
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:18,585
about money.

2000
01:13:18,585 --> 01:13:18,919
they're worried about property

2001
01:13:18,919 --> 01:13:20,919
values.

2002
01:13:22,990 --> 01:13:25,990
Some have eight and 10 locks

2003
01:13:26,427 --> 01:13:26,960
down there and and that's an

2004
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,594
at-home business.

2005
01:13:28,594 --> 01:13:30,431
They you are working out of

2006
01:13:30,431 --> 01:13:31,198
their houses and buying property

2007
01:13:31,198 --> 01:13:32,600
and selling it.

2008
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,600
They're making money.

2009
01:13:37,938 --> 01:13:39,807
Good, I'm glad for them.

2010
01:13:39,807 --> 01:13:41,175
I did have a problem when people

2011
01:13:41,175 --> 01:13:43,100
would tell omeone, especially a

2012
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,130
young man, he can't try to

2013
01:13:45,130 --> 01:13:47,810
better himself and do something.

2014
01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:48,849
It's the same thing that's been

2015
01:13:48,849 --> 01:13:50,518
going on for generations.

2016
01:13:50,518 --> 01:13:50,852
Over 10 generations of my

2017
01:13:50,852 --> 01:13:52,530
family.

2018
01:13:52,530 --> 01:13:54,689
They have saw any kind of work

2019
01:13:54,689 --> 01:13:56,958
there around lillian, they

2020
01:13:56,958 --> 01:13:58,826
guided fishing, hunting, they

2021
01:13:58,826 --> 01:14:01,826
did farming and whatever they

2022
01:14:02,997 --> 01:14:04,631
could do to make a dollar.

2023
01:14:04,631 --> 01:14:05,400
As far as processes, my

2024
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,800
grandfather always talked about

2025
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:09,504
when they would go out and catch

2026
01:14:09,504 --> 01:14:11,573
mullet and salt them and put

2027
01:14:11,573 --> 01:14:12,941
them on a train and send them to

2028
01:14:12,941 --> 01:14:16,278
new york many of that was a

2029
01:14:16,278 --> 01:14:17,412
little at-home business.

2030
01:14:17,412 --> 01:14:19,812
That's what yan is

2031
01:14:21,783 --> 01:14:22,840
lillian is really

2032
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:23,518
about.

2033
01:14:23,518 --> 01:14:26,421
>> your property is o the right

2034
01:14:26,421 --> 01:14:26,988
or to the left of the subject

2035
01:14:26,988 --> 01:14:28,560
property?

2036
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,560
>> to the right.

2037
01:14:31,693 --> 01:14:34,693
>> so, that property is rsf-2,

2038
01:14:35,230 --> 01:14:37,230
is that correct?

2039
01:14:37,533 --> 01:14:39,334
It says rsf-1.

2040
01:14:39,334 --> 01:14:40,736
>> were you operating this

2041
01:14:40,736 --> 01:14:42,471
business prior to zoning?

2042
01:14:42,471 --> 01:14:44,339
So your grandfathered in under

2043
01:14:44,339 --> 01:14:47,977
that so that if you were to just

2044
01:14:47,977 --> 01:14:50,112
now start your business, it

2045
01:14:50,112 --> 01:14:51,414
would not e not in compliance?

2046
01:14:51,414 --> 01:14:54,350
As long as you continue that

2047
01:14:54,350 --> 01:14:55,684
business, you can continue it on

2048
01:14:55,684 --> 01:14:57,850
and on.

2049
01:14:57,850 --> 01:14:58,921
If you were to cease doing what

2050
01:14:58,921 --> 01:15:00,423
you are doing, you wouldn't

2051
01:15:00,423 --> 01:15:04,230
be -- am I speaking correctly

2052
01:15:06,595 --> 01:15:07,830
from zoning perspective.

2053
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:08,865
You asked the question, why

2054
01:15:08,865 --> 01:15:09,933
can't he start a business

2055
01:15:09,933 --> 01:15:11,834
because he is not grandfathered

2056
01:15:11,834 --> 01:15:12,135
in and he is in a residential

2057
01:15:12,135 --> 01:15:13,636
area.

2058
01:15:13,636 --> 01:15:17,173
That's the only comment that I

2059
01:15:17,173 --> 01:15:17,573
wanted to make sure that it was

2060
01:15:17,573 --> 01:15:19,442
understood.

2061
01:15:19,442 --> 01:15:21,476
Really and truly, the use of the

2062
01:15:21,476 --> 01:15:22,912
property is not the main concern

2063
01:15:22,912 --> 01:15:24,214
right now.

2064
01:15:24,214 --> 01:15:26,150
It's the question is, you are

2065
01:15:26,150 --> 01:15:28,150
asking to rezone.

2066
01:15:28,351 --> 01:15:29,886
So that's a erious issue when

2067
01:15:29,886 --> 01:15:32,289
you got other areas in that.

2068
01:15:32,289 --> 01:15:33,823
I mean, I understand concerns

2069
01:15:33,823 --> 01:15:35,958
but there's any number of things

2070
01:15:35,958 --> 01:15:37,394
that you can do at a home

2071
01:15:37,394 --> 01:15:39,429
business besides deer processing

2072
01:15:39,429 --> 01:15:40,597
that might not be agreeable or

2073
01:15:40,597 --> 01:15:41,364
disagree able so I don't want to

2074
01:15:41,364 --> 01:15:41,898
continue the public hearing on

2075
01:15:41,898 --> 01:15:43,898
and on.

2076
01:15:44,534 --> 01:15:48,734
I just wanted ask if you were

2077
01:15:54,178 --> 01:15:57,113
doing that prior to zoning.

2078
01:15:57,113 --> 01:15:57,681
>> I didn't know about zoning, I

2079
01:15:57,681 --> 01:16:00,810
just learned about it.

2080
01:16:02,253 --> 01:16:03,687
>> Chair Davis: thank you, sir.

2081
01:16:03,687 --> 01:16:07,887
>> do you have a letter that was

2082
01:16:10,494 --> 01:16:11,629
in your addendum packet for this

2083
01:16:11,629 --> 01:16:12,797
item.

2084
01:16:12,797 --> 01:16:13,397
>> I want today clarify

2085
01:16:13,397 --> 01:16:14,798
something.

2086
01:16:14,798 --> 01:16:17,798
Reading from the same article

2087
01:16:19,503 --> 01:16:24,303
which part of it is cited in the

2088
01:16:55,730 --> 01:16:57,730
letter.

2089
01:16:58,843 --> 01:17:00,745
>> deer meat that is dezoned,

2090
01:17:00,745 --> 01:17:02,648
clean skull plates with attached

2091
01:17:02,648 --> 01:17:04,883
antler if no brain or spinal

2092
01:17:04,883 --> 01:17:07,753
cord tissue present, raw capes

2093
01:17:07,753 --> 01:17:10,155
if no visible or spinal cord

2094
01:17:10,155 --> 01:17:12,424
present, upper canine teeth in

2095
01:17:12,424 --> 01:17:13,993
no root structure or other soft

2096
01:17:13,993 --> 01:17:15,294
tissue is present and finished

2097
01:17:15,294 --> 01:17:17,294
tax a

2098
01:17:20,132 --> 01:17:22,101
taxi and they are illegal in

2099
01:17:22,101 --> 01:17:25,101
alabama unless they're part of

2100
01:17:26,605 --> 01:17:28,641
the is finished taxidermi.

2101
01:17:28,641 --> 01:17:31,641
The statement it's illegal to

2102
01:17:32,780 --> 01:17:35,780
transport deer meat into the

2103
01:17:36,182 --> 01:17:36,783
state of alabama is false.

2104
01:17:36,783 --> 01:17:37,750
>> Chair Davis: ok.

2105
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:38,851
Anything else we need to do.

2106
01:17:38,851 --> 01:17:40,786
>> there's no one else signed up

2107
01:17:40,786 --> 01:17:41,888
to speak.

2108
01:17:41,888 --> 01:17:42,555
I don't know if anyone didn't

2109
01:17:42,555 --> 01:17:44,223
sign up.

2110
01:17:44,223 --> 01:17:45,258
That's all official speaker

2111
01:17:45,258 --> 01:17:47,658
we've had signed up.

2112
01:17:49,128 --> 01:17:49,929
>> I didn't sign up.

2113
01:17:49,929 --> 01:17:51,731
>> Chair Davis: come to the

2114
01:17:51,731 --> 01:17:52,650
podium and give us your name,

2115
01:17:52,650 --> 01:17:54,650
please.

2116
01:17:54,834 --> 01:17:56,436
So we can have it on the

2117
01:17:56,436 --> 01:17:58,436
official records.

2118
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,375
>> my name is mary joe conlee

2119
01:18:02,375 --> 01:18:03,610
and I live on boykin boulevard.

2120
01:18:03,610 --> 01:18:05,110
I'm are not concerned about he

2121
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:07,179
meat processing in his kitchen,

2122
01:18:07,179 --> 01:18:07,447
which he said he was going to

2123
01:18:07,447 --> 01:18:09,447
do.

2124
01:18:09,683 --> 01:18:10,500
I'm concerned about the

2125
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:12,500
rezoning.

2126
01:18:12,419 --> 01:18:14,920
He built that house a little

2127
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,188
less than a -- around a year

2128
01:18:15,188 --> 01:18:16,456
ago.

2129
01:18:16,456 --> 01:18:18,725
Knowing if he was already doing

2130
01:18:18,725 --> 01:18:21,560
this meat processing, that he

2131
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,620
would be building in a

2132
01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:23,864
residential lot.

2133
01:18:23,864 --> 01:18:26,466
Why didn't he go out and build

2134
01:18:26,466 --> 01:18:28,866
in the country where

2135
01:18:30,370 --> 01:18:31,705
where -- in a

2136
01:18:31,705 --> 01:18:33,705
rural area already.

2137
01:18:36,677 --> 01:18:37,511
His step dad, I'm sorry,

2138
01:18:37,511 --> 01:18:38,879
Mr. Key, he has been doing that

2139
01:18:38,879 --> 01:18:40,881
business and it's been

2140
01:18:40,881 --> 01:18:43,384
profitable, I'm sure, and it's

2141
01:18:43,384 --> 01:18:45,384
very non noticeable.

2142
01:18:45,619 --> 01:18:46,821
He doesn't have people coming

2143
01:18:46,821 --> 01:18:49,221
there all the time.

2144
01:18:51,157 --> 01:18:52,693
I'm just curious, I've never

2145
01:18:52,693 --> 01:18:55,763
been able to cut all the meat

2146
01:18:55,763 --> 01:18:59,534
off of a bone at my farm and

2147
01:18:59,534 --> 01:18:59,867
take it to loxley to get

2148
01:18:59,867 --> 01:19:01,736
process.

2149
01:19:01,736 --> 01:19:03,603
Those bones are coming to your

2150
01:19:03,603 --> 01:19:05,606
kitchen and it's not bout the

2151
01:19:05,606 --> 01:19:08,209
meat, it's about the rezoning.

2152
01:19:08,209 --> 01:19:09,610
He knew he was building a house

2153
01:19:09,610 --> 01:19:11,450
there, and it was residential

2154
01:19:11,450 --> 01:19:13,450
when he built.

2155
01:19:13,248 --> 01:19:17,448
And he stated ast month that he

2156
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,454
had been doing this for years.

2157
01:19:20,454 --> 01:19:21,389
Go somewhere where you can

2158
01:19:21,389 --> 01:19:23,389
legally do it.

2159
01:19:23,825 --> 01:19:24,192
If you wanted to be a business.

2160
01:19:24,192 --> 01:19:26,192
Thank you.

2161
01:19:32,901 --> 01:19:34,636
>> thank you, ma'am.

2162
01:19:34,636 --> 01:19:37,500
>> Chair Davis: you are a team.

2163
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:40,605
Do you both need to speak?

2164
01:19:43,780 --> 01:19:44,847
>> I just wanted to --

2165
01:19:44,847 --> 01:19:46,114
>> I just want to address this

2166
01:19:46,114 --> 01:19:47,216
comment that was made bout me

2167
01:19:47,216 --> 01:19:49,216
building a house.

2168
01:20:04,466 --> 01:20:05,735
It's been there for two years.

2169
01:20:05,735 --> 01:20:07,236
Most of the people that spoke to

2170
01:20:07,236 --> 01:20:09,171
you haven't lived in lillian for

2171
01:20:09,171 --> 01:20:11,571
40 years, their whole life.

2172
01:20:12,608 --> 01:20:12,942
They're coming rom other

2173
01:20:12,942 --> 01:20:14,942
places.

2174
01:20:15,411 --> 01:20:16,879
And also on the pet

2175
01:20:16,879 --> 01:20:18,879
petition, a lot

2176
01:20:19,248 --> 01:20:20,783
of those are south of 98.

2177
01:20:20,783 --> 01:20:22,652
It's not even in our

2178
01:20:22,652 --> 01:20:23,820
neighborhood and there's one on

2179
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:24,519
there for daphne.

2180
01:20:24,519 --> 01:20:26,356
>> Chair Davis: thank you.

2181
01:20:26,356 --> 01:20:28,558
>> I have one quick question.

2182
01:20:28,558 --> 01:20:30,393
What's the time period that you

2183
01:20:30,393 --> 01:20:32,393
do the processing?

2184
01:20:34,297 --> 01:20:36,199
Is it from the beginning of deer

2185
01:20:36,199 --> 01:20:36,532
season to the end of deer

2186
01:20:36,532 --> 01:20:38,532
season.

2187
01:20:43,340 --> 01:20:45,575
>> it would be for three months.

2188
01:20:45,575 --> 01:20:47,844
>> how do you rent a place for

2189
01:20:47,844 --> 01:20:49,713
$2,000 month when you make

2190
01:20:49,713 --> 01:20:50,460
$2,000 over a three-month

2191
01:20:50,460 --> 01:20:51,615
period.

2192
01:20:51,615 --> 01:20:51,982
It's not a big commercial

2193
01:20:51,982 --> 01:20:53,683
business.

2194
01:20:53,683 --> 01:20:55,218
If it does do good, if it ends

2195
01:20:55,218 --> 01:20:57,421
up a lot of people like it and

2196
01:20:57,421 --> 01:21:00,291
they come, I will move.

2197
01:21:00,291 --> 01:21:02,926
I will move out to 98.

2198
01:21:02,926 --> 01:21:03,193
You've got to be realistic with

2199
01:21:03,193 --> 01:21:03,894
it.

2200
01:21:03,894 --> 01:21:04,461
>> Chair Davis: any other

2201
01:21:04,461 --> 01:21:06,461
questions or comments.

2202
01:21:14,371 --> 01:21:15,805
Thank you, sir.

2203
01:21:15,805 --> 01:21:17,805
Identify yourself, please.

2204
01:21:18,409 --> 01:21:20,809
>> I'm lauren, josh's wife.

2205
01:21:21,579 --> 01:21:23,948
And just one other thing, we

2206
01:21:23,948 --> 01:21:26,500
finally it donned on us why it's

2207
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:29,253
going to be rezoned because when

2208
01:21:29,253 --> 01:21:30,354
we went through this home

2209
01:21:30,354 --> 01:21:32,354
occupation conditions, which

2210
01:21:33,191 --> 01:21:33,925
like josh said, we talked to the

2211
01:21:33,925 --> 01:21:35,359
zoning people for a while, they

2212
01:21:35,359 --> 01:21:38,396
had to go through the books to

2213
01:21:38,396 --> 01:21:40,231
find out, I made him call around

2214
01:21:40,231 --> 01:21:41,320
to see how to do it legally to

2215
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,268
take money for it.

2216
01:21:43,268 --> 01:21:46,868
We got to every department in

2217
01:21:49,107 --> 01:21:51,242
alabama and with the zoning.

2218
01:21:51,242 --> 01:21:52,777
If it's in a residential

2219
01:21:52,777 --> 01:21:54,445
district, then, it says the area

2220
01:21:54,445 --> 01:21:57,445
used for the home occupation

2221
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:58,717
shall not exceed 20% of the

2222
01:21:58,717 --> 01:21:59,851
gross floor area.

2223
01:21:59,851 --> 01:22:02,530
Of the principle building and

2224
01:22:02,530 --> 01:22:05,653
then if it's a home occupation

2225
01:22:06,524 --> 01:22:09,524
in rural district, there's no

2226
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,162
20% so I guess if he told the

2227
01:22:11,162 --> 01:22:12,631
zoning people that we were going

2228
01:22:12,631 --> 01:22:14,733
to do it in a building, if we're

2229
01:22:14,733 --> 01:22:15,100
going to build garage or

2230
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:16,501
whatever.

2231
01:22:16,501 --> 01:22:17,836
He was taken in account the size

2232
01:22:17,836 --> 01:22:19,838
of the building maybe and I

2233
01:22:19,838 --> 01:22:22,838
think that's the only reason

2234
01:22:25,778 --> 01:22:28,178
that this came up.

2235
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:31,160
So, to get it rezoned, it's a

2236
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,418
special condition.

2237
01:22:32,418 --> 01:22:35,187
It's under the three acres.

2238
01:22:35,187 --> 01:22:36,880
It says in the papers September

2239
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,880
to us from

2240
01:22:41,930 --> 01:22:42,628
sent fromrezoning, if approved, the

2241
01:22:42,628 --> 01:22:44,960
applicant must apply for home

2242
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,496
occupation application and so

2243
01:22:47,266 --> 01:22:47,533
all those rules would apply to

2244
01:22:47,533 --> 01:22:49,468
us.

2245
01:22:49,468 --> 01:22:50,870
It's not opening a whole bunch

2246
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:52,905
of other people trying to rezone

2247
01:22:52,905 --> 01:22:53,473
to rural agriculture is what I

2248
01:22:53,473 --> 01:22:55,473
would think.

2249
01:22:58,878 --> 01:22:59,244
I just wanted to answer those

2250
01:22:59,244 --> 01:23:01,244
questions.

2251
01:23:03,550 --> 01:23:04,984
>> the length of time, is that

2252
01:23:04,984 --> 01:23:08,584
considered in the thing as being

2253
01:23:09,889 --> 01:23:12,910
an occupational thing for three

2254
01:23:12,910 --> 01:23:12,625
months?

2255
01:23:12,625 --> 01:23:14,625
That's the question.

2256
01:23:14,995 --> 01:23:15,562
>> the home occupations you have

2257
01:23:15,562 --> 01:23:17,562
two types.

2258
01:23:18,131 --> 01:23:18,899
You have the ones for

2259
01:23:18,899 --> 01:23:20,466
residential and someone does

2260
01:23:20,466 --> 01:23:21,301
taxes out of their house but you

2261
01:23:21,301 --> 01:23:23,103
can't have people coming and

2262
01:23:23,103 --> 01:23:24,438
going to your premises, that's

2263
01:23:24,438 --> 01:23:26,838
one of the criteria.

2264
01:23:29,843 --> 01:23:31,878
When you get to the ra-type home

2265
01:23:31,878 --> 01:23:33,380
occupations it's more expanded

2266
01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:36,980
and you do more things because

2267
01:23:42,889 --> 01:23:43,257
you've got property that is less

2268
01:23:43,257 --> 01:23:45,257
developed.

2269
01:23:45,526 --> 01:23:47,926
>> does three months constitute

2270
01:23:48,127 --> 01:23:50,127
a home occupation?

2271
01:23:51,332 --> 01:23:54,835
>> so, from my opinion, as a

2272
01:23:54,835 --> 01:23:55,970
former lanner, home occupation

2273
01:23:55,970 --> 01:23:57,710
is home occupation whether it's

2274
01:23:57,710 --> 01:23:59,710
one or 12 months.

2275
01:23:59,974 --> 01:24:01,542
The use exist, when it exists.

2276
01:24:01,542 --> 01:24:03,711
>> it's the comings and goings

2277
01:24:03,711 --> 01:24:04,739
of people and different things

2278
01:24:04,739 --> 01:24:06,214
like that.

2279
01:24:06,214 --> 01:24:07,248
Like you are saying, can you

2280
01:24:07,248 --> 01:24:10,248
literally never ever see clients

2281
01:24:10,351 --> 01:24:13,187
and just be in your house.

2282
01:24:13,187 --> 01:24:14,589
You could take a home

2283
01:24:14,589 --> 01:24:15,156
occupation, you know.

2284
01:24:15,156 --> 01:24:17,156
You've got cottage

2285
01:24:18,260 --> 01:24:19,927
cottage kitchens.

2286
01:24:19,927 --> 01:24:21,328
Big issue is you are requesting

2287
01:24:21,328 --> 01:24:24,328
rezoning more than anything and

2288
01:24:26,234 --> 01:24:28,503
that's what I wanted to stress.

2289
01:24:28,503 --> 01:24:29,704
To me, this is an anti deer

2290
01:24:29,704 --> 01:24:31,704
processing thing.

2291
01:24:37,846 --> 01:24:40,246
I eat deer meat.

2292
01:24:40,649 --> 01:24:42,117
My husband goes out of the state

2293
01:24:42,117 --> 01:24:44,517
and kill an elk.

2294
01:24:45,554 --> 01:24:49,458
He had to bring it home and just

2295
01:24:49,458 --> 01:24:50,726
the meat.

2296
01:24:50,726 --> 01:24:52,600
It's the fact you are asking us

2297
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:53,729
to rezone a piece of property

2298
01:24:53,729 --> 01:24:55,998
that's only half of what you

2299
01:24:55,998 --> 01:24:56,398
need to even be rule

2300
01:24:56,398 --> 01:24:58,398
agriculture.

2301
01:24:58,834 --> 01:25:00,903
So, I'm looking at the rezoning

2302
01:25:00,903 --> 01:25:01,569
more than I am -- it's not about

2303
01:25:01,569 --> 01:25:03,969
what you are doing.

2304
01:25:04,273 --> 01:25:05,307
Some of things that have been

2305
01:25:05,307 --> 01:25:07,208
said, some are not nice, maybe

2306
01:25:07,208 --> 01:25:07,509
not kind or any of that kind of

2307
01:25:07,509 --> 01:25:08,911
stuff.

2308
01:25:08,911 --> 01:25:11,180
It's not about that.

2309
01:25:11,180 --> 01:25:12,847
It's about should this piece of

2310
01:25:12,847 --> 01:25:14,183
property remain what it is or

2311
01:25:14,183 --> 01:25:18,383
should it be rezoned to what you

2312
01:25:20,356 --> 01:25:20,790
are asking it to be.

2313
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:22,725
>> thank you.

2314
01:25:22,725 --> 01:25:25,725
>> let me pose reference here.

2315
01:25:25,795 --> 01:25:27,830
You came up with a rezoning, or

2316
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:28,970
you were advise today do this

2317
01:25:28,970 --> 01:25:29,499
way?

2318
01:25:29,499 --> 01:25:31,566
>> we were advised by the

2319
01:25:31,566 --> 01:25:31,868
planing and zoning comment to do

2320
01:25:31,868 --> 01:25:33,169
this.

2321
01:25:33,169 --> 01:25:35,169
>> that's my point.

2322
01:25:35,872 --> 01:25:37,140
>> thank you.

2323
01:25:37,140 --> 01:25:38,708
>> people that work for us.

2324
01:25:38,708 --> 01:25:39,208
>> ok.

2325
01:25:39,208 --> 01:25:40,800
Anyone else?

2326
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,800
>> no, sir.

2327
01:25:42,712 --> 01:25:44,470
>> anyone else in the audience

2328
01:25:44,470 --> 01:25:45,315
that feels compelled to reach

2329
01:25:45,315 --> 01:25:47,715
out and say something.

2330
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,840
>> we're back.

2331
01:25:58,161 --> 01:25:59,363
Come on.

2332
01:25:59,363 --> 01:26:01,763
>> please address the chair.

2333
01:26:02,365 --> 01:26:03,767
>> it has nothing to do with

2334
01:26:03,767 --> 01:26:05,680
income.

2335
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:05,369
Wealthy people versus anyone

2336
01:26:05,369 --> 01:26:07,369
else.

2337
01:26:07,905 --> 01:26:12,105
It has nothing to do with that.

2338
01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:15,479
It is simply the only problem is

2339
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,790
the place is not big enough.

2340
01:26:21,518 --> 01:26:22,253
It is not.

2341
01:26:22,253 --> 01:26:23,153
>> Chair Davis: this is the

2342
01:26:23,153 --> 01:26:24,421
point you made earlier.

2343
01:26:24,421 --> 01:26:25,389
If you have new information,

2344
01:26:25,389 --> 01:26:26,824
please share it.

2345
01:26:26,824 --> 01:26:27,691
Otherwise we need to move on.

2346
01:26:27,691 --> 01:26:28,692
>> let's move on.

2347
01:26:28,692 --> 01:26:31,920
>> we have a question.

2348
01:26:34,231 --> 01:26:36,434
>> I got a uestion for you.

2349
01:26:36,434 --> 01:26:39,434
Tell me, in your thought

2350
01:26:39,503 --> 01:26:42,390
process, what does not big

2351
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:44,390
enough mean?

2352
01:26:45,710 --> 01:26:46,770
>> this property, at point

2353
01:26:46,770 --> 01:26:47,745
53 acres.

2354
01:26:47,745 --> 01:26:49,346
>> all he has to have is a shed.

2355
01:26:49,346 --> 01:26:51,549
You got a shed, right.

2356
01:26:51,549 --> 01:26:52,917
Or a facility?

2357
01:26:52,917 --> 01:26:53,450
>> he had said he is doing it in

2358
01:26:53,450 --> 01:26:54,852
his house.

2359
01:26:54,852 --> 01:26:57,880
>> he is doing in his house.

2360
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:57,688
>> he planned on doing this in

2361
01:26:57,688 --> 01:26:59,688
his house.

2362
01:27:00,759 --> 01:27:02,794
He is been doing this by his own

2363
01:27:02,794 --> 01:27:05,794
admission for several years or

2364
01:27:06,831 --> 01:27:08,199
prior to building on this lot.

2365
01:27:08,199 --> 01:27:09,340
>> I'm talking about in his new

2366
01:27:09,340 --> 01:27:10,835
house right now.

2367
01:27:10,835 --> 01:27:14,390
He is going to be doing

2368
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:14,806
processing inside his new house.

2369
01:27:14,806 --> 01:27:16,441
I don't understand how come

2370
01:27:16,441 --> 01:27:18,443
that's not ig enough?

2371
01:27:18,443 --> 01:27:19,344
He is performing a business

2372
01:27:19,344 --> 01:27:21,344
inside is house.

2373
01:27:23,515 --> 01:27:24,815
He has got to get this done so

2374
01:27:24,815 --> 01:27:26,485
the planning department

2375
01:27:26,485 --> 01:27:27,319
recommended he get it so he

2376
01:27:27,319 --> 01:27:29,870
doesn't get in trouble by

2377
01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:30,422
selling and taking goods and

2378
01:27:30,422 --> 01:27:34,220
services and I don't see it

2379
01:27:38,964 --> 01:27:40,650
being a huge business.

2380
01:27:40,650 --> 01:27:43,650
>> where we're getting crossed a

2381
01:27:43,235 --> 01:27:43,736
little bit and it's just a

2382
01:27:43,736 --> 01:27:45,736
misunderstanding.

2383
01:27:45,938 --> 01:27:47,907
The request to rezone to rule

2384
01:27:47,907 --> 01:27:50,307
agriculture and there's a

2385
01:27:50,643 --> 01:27:53,430
minimum size which is 40,000

2386
01:27:55,948 --> 01:27:58,885
square feet.53 would on be

2387
01:27:58,885 --> 01:28:00,885
about 20,000 square feet.

2388
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,457
That was that was the reference.

2389
01:28:04,457 --> 01:28:05,490
>> they got bad advice from our

2390
01:28:05,490 --> 01:28:06,125
employers to go forward with

2391
01:28:06,125 --> 01:28:07,427
this?

2392
01:28:07,427 --> 01:28:07,832
Is that what you are saying?

2393
01:28:07,832 --> 01:28:09,295
>> yes.

2394
01:28:09,295 --> 01:28:10,290
>> I did not say that.

2395
01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:10,597
>> Chair Davis: well, that's

2396
01:28:10,597 --> 01:28:12,164
what it sounded like.

2397
01:28:12,164 --> 01:28:13,990
>> so when people come into the

2398
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:14,367
planning department, I've been

2399
01:28:14,367 --> 01:28:16,100
doing this for 27 years, they

2400
01:28:16,100 --> 01:28:16,503
say I want to do this and how do

2401
01:28:16,503 --> 01:28:18,138
I do it.

2402
01:28:18,138 --> 01:28:19,839
I don't think the staff will

2403
01:28:19,839 --> 01:28:21,307
say, go out there and

2404
01:28:21,307 --> 01:28:23,707
aggressively tell people, can

2405
01:28:24,277 --> 01:28:26,279
you do it this way and that way.

2406
01:28:26,279 --> 01:28:27,948
Let us help you understand what

2407
01:28:27,948 --> 01:28:29,483
the rules are and if you want to

2408
01:28:29,483 --> 01:28:31,117
do this, this is how you are

2409
01:28:31,117 --> 01:28:32,686
going to need to do it.

2410
01:28:32,686 --> 01:28:34,321
I don't think we're out there

2411
01:28:34,321 --> 01:28:36,756
telling people what to do.

2412
01:28:36,756 --> 01:28:37,591
>> I feel like we've got a good

2413
01:28:37,591 --> 01:28:39,826
planning department in place,

2414
01:28:39,826 --> 01:28:42,295
not only did our staff approve

2415
01:28:42,295 --> 01:28:45,399
this, it went for board of a

2416
01:28:45,399 --> 01:28:47,667
commission where it was a

2417
01:28:47,667 --> 01:28:48,340
unanimous decision for the

2418
01:28:48,340 --> 01:28:49,236
applicant.

2419
01:28:49,236 --> 01:28:50,638
At any time, the people that

2420
01:28:50,638 --> 01:28:52,506
we're speak north opposition of

2421
01:28:52,506 --> 01:28:54,740
this at that planning zones I

2422
01:28:54,740 --> 01:28:56,740
watched it.

2423
01:29:00,914 --> 01:29:02,449
It didn't sway the minds of the

2424
01:29:02,449 --> 01:29:04,485
it didn't change the minds.

2425
01:29:04,485 --> 01:29:05,920
Both have recommended approval.

2426
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,922
Usually you would see a planning

2427
01:29:07,922 --> 01:29:09,824
commission vote one or two vote

2428
01:29:09,824 --> 01:29:11,692
no and you can go back and ask,

2429
01:29:11,692 --> 01:29:12,660
why did you vote o on this and

2430
01:29:12,660 --> 01:29:13,694
just explain.

2431
01:29:13,694 --> 01:29:14,996
I do it with all of them.

2432
01:29:14,996 --> 01:29:17,365
If I see someone that votes no,

2433
01:29:17,365 --> 01:29:18,399
I say why did you vote no on

2434
01:29:18,399 --> 01:29:18,900
this, just to get their side of

2435
01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:20,900
the story.

2436
01:29:22,437 --> 01:29:26,637
In this case, usually with a 6-0

2437
01:29:26,707 --> 01:29:27,908
vote down the middle of for the

2438
01:29:27,908 --> 01:29:29,477
applicant, our planning

2439
01:29:29,477 --> 01:29:30,440
department said it's good to go.

2440
01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:32,800
I don't know why.

2441
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,916
We still center to vote on it.

2442
01:29:34,916 --> 01:29:36,751
I don't know why we're

2443
01:29:36,751 --> 01:29:38,751
questioning it.

2444
01:29:41,230 --> 01:29:41,323
>> Chair Davis: are we ray' to ready to

2445
01:29:41,323 --> 01:29:43,323
close.

2446
01:29:43,792 --> 01:29:45,226
>> of a comment.

2447
01:29:45,226 --> 01:29:46,328
When they stayed with us for a

2448
01:29:46,328 --> 01:29:48,290
while we recommended ra because

2449
01:29:48,290 --> 01:29:51,629
the deer processing we felt was

2450
01:29:52,133 --> 01:29:53,340
more like an agricultural than a

2451
01:29:53,340 --> 01:29:55,340
residential use.

2452
01:30:02,644 --> 01:30:04,513
Being a smaller lot, we hadn't

2453
01:30:04,513 --> 01:30:07,649
had an issue with asking for a

2454
01:30:07,649 --> 01:30:08,510
restoning because it's a lot of

2455
01:30:08,510 --> 01:30:09,318
work.

2456
01:30:09,318 --> 01:30:10,986
It's been that way for a while.

2457
01:30:10,986 --> 01:30:13,986
That's were we recommended the

2458
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:14,490
ra and the home object

2459
01:30:14,490 --> 01:30:15,456
precipitation.

2460
01:30:15,456 --> 01:30:16,759
We can close the public hearing.

2461
01:30:16,759 --> 01:30:17,492
We can ask her questions in our

2462
01:30:17,492 --> 01:30:18,761
regular meeting.

2463
01:30:18,761 --> 01:30:21,761
>> is there anyone else that

2464
01:30:22,465 --> 01:30:22,865
needs to speak under the public

2465
01:30:22,865 --> 01:30:24,600
hearing?

2466
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,769
Seeing or hearing none.

2467
01:30:26,769 --> 01:30:27,770
Public hearing is closed.

2468
01:30:27,770 --> 01:30:30,171
We'll have discussion leading up

2469
01:30:30,171 --> 01:30:30,506
to a vote relative to this

2470
01:30:30,506 --> 01:30:32,506
project.

2471
01:30:33,176 --> 01:30:35,577
>> I have a question for selena.

2472
01:30:35,577 --> 01:30:39,177
This is not in any effort

2473
01:30:39,982 --> 01:30:40,817
whatsoever to make you guys look

2474
01:30:40,817 --> 01:30:42,118
bad or anything.

2475
01:30:42,118 --> 01:30:43,319
When it's a lot of record I

2476
01:30:43,319 --> 01:30:46,319
understand they will not always

2477
01:30:47,156 --> 01:30:50,156
be in the same specifications

2478
01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:54,460
but when we're asking for a

2479
01:30:54,931 --> 01:30:57,931
rezoning, it's something that I

2480
01:30:58,801 --> 01:31:00,236
look for.

2481
01:31:00,236 --> 01:31:02,105
To say there was a mistake made,

2482
01:31:02,105 --> 01:31:03,706
it was not my intentions at all.

2483
01:31:03,706 --> 01:31:06,176
Because I did not say that. I

2484
01:31:06,176 --> 01:31:07,711
was just saying that I don't

2485
01:31:07,711 --> 01:31:09,479
feel like when you are asked to

2486
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,879
rezone something, versus it

2487
01:31:12,815 --> 01:31:14,618
being a lot of record, that you

2488
01:31:14,618 --> 01:31:17,554
need to steer from the

2489
01:31:17,554 --> 01:31:19,554
requirements as much.

2490
01:31:20,224 --> 01:31:23,824
So, it's just from years of

2491
01:31:24,461 --> 01:31:26,290
dealing with these situations

2492
01:31:26,290 --> 01:31:27,798
and being on, not as a

2493
01:31:27,798 --> 01:31:30,300
commission but as a planning

2494
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:32,300
commissioner for 22 years.

2495
01:31:33,370 --> 01:31:34,271
It's something that I've learned

2496
01:31:34,271 --> 01:31:36,271
and looked at.

2497
01:31:37,341 --> 01:31:39,343
So, I understand the pressure

2498
01:31:39,343 --> 01:31:40,311
that an happen from someone

2499
01:31:40,311 --> 01:31:42,711
wanting to do something.

2500
01:31:42,847 --> 01:31:44,281
i want to make it clear, to

2501
01:31:44,281 --> 01:31:46,550
anyone that is here about this

2502
01:31:46,550 --> 01:31:48,119
particular case, whether it's

2503
01:31:48,119 --> 01:31:51,119
the owner that's requesting this

2504
01:31:51,823 --> 01:31:54,792
or it's the neighbors that are

2505
01:31:54,792 --> 01:31:56,194
making the comments, to me, it's

2506
01:31:56,194 --> 01:32:00,394
not about what he is asking to

2507
01:32:01,980 --> 01:32:03,401
do here, it's about the rezoning

2508
01:32:03,401 --> 01:32:05,401
rezoning.

2509
01:32:17,140 --> 01:32:18,716
And it meets, does it not meet

2510
01:32:18,716 --> 01:32:22,316
the requirements of what it is?

2511
01:32:22,587 --> 01:32:24,122
Even if it is, it's

2512
01:32:24,122 --> 01:32:25,190
grandfathered in as a lot of

2513
01:32:25,190 --> 01:32:25,824
record, I guess you could say.

2514
01:32:25,824 --> 01:32:27,626
That's all.

2515
01:32:27,626 --> 01:32:30,195
I don't want it to o say that I

2516
01:32:30,195 --> 01:32:32,297
said the planning epartment

2517
01:32:32,297 --> 01:32:33,865
made a mistake or made an error

2518
01:32:33,865 --> 01:32:35,500
or anything like that?

2519
01:32:35,500 --> 01:32:36,201
>> what you said could be taken

2520
01:32:36,201 --> 01:32:37,535
that way.

2521
01:32:37,535 --> 01:32:39,304
Whether I took it correctly or

2522
01:32:39,304 --> 01:32:41,704
not, really doesn't matter.

2523
01:32:41,874 --> 01:32:44,410
We're at a point where lobbying

2524
01:32:44,410 --> 01:32:45,344
for a particular position is not

2525
01:32:45,344 --> 01:32:46,778
our job.

2526
01:32:46,778 --> 01:32:49,140
We have a recommendation in

2527
01:32:49,140 --> 01:32:50,316
front of us that was unanimously

2528
01:32:50,316 --> 01:32:51,383
approved by our planning

2529
01:32:51,383 --> 01:32:52,718
commission and would recommend

2530
01:32:52,718 --> 01:32:54,619
by ur staff.

2531
01:32:54,619 --> 01:32:58,219
So we're in a point, unless

2532
01:32:58,390 --> 01:33:01,390
there's other discussions, for a

2533
01:33:07,733 --> 01:33:09,468
motion, a second and a vote.

2534
01:33:09,468 --> 01:33:12,772
>> I make the motion we accept

2535
01:33:12,772 --> 01:33:15,172
staff recommendation and approve

2536
01:33:16,420 --> 01:33:18,420
this place.

2537
01:33:21,681 --> 01:33:22,849
This case.

2538
01:33:22,849 --> 01:33:24,517
>> Chair Davis: as I expressed

2539
01:33:24,517 --> 01:33:26,419
earlier, the chair cannot make a

2540
01:33:26,419 --> 01:33:28,819
motion or a second.

2541
01:33:29,220 --> 01:33:31,992
We have a motion n the floor.

2542
01:33:31,992 --> 01:33:35,395
Is there a second to approving

2543
01:33:35,395 --> 01:33:36,896
this particular case unanimously

2544
01:33:36,896 --> 01:33:39,296
approved by our planning

2545
01:33:44,337 --> 01:33:45,305
commission and our staff?

2546
01:33:45,305 --> 01:33:47,705
>> I'll second for discussion.

2547
01:33:48,740 --> 01:33:48,408
>> we have a motion and a

2548
01:33:48,408 --> 01:33:50,408
second.

2549
01:33:50,543 --> 01:33:54,143
Does anyone have any new points

2550
01:33:54,748 --> 01:33:57,748
to bring up relative to

2551
01:34:00,540 --> 01:34:02,540
discussion?

2552
01:34:03,357 --> 01:34:05,626
Hearing none, call for a vote.

2553
01:34:05,626 --> 01:34:07,628
All in favor of moving this

2554
01:34:07,628 --> 01:34:10,464
forward and a proving the

2555
01:34:10,464 --> 01:34:11,492
recommendation signify by saying

2556
01:34:11,492 --> 01:34:11,598
aye.

2557
01:34:11,598 --> 01:34:13,598
Aye.

2558
01:34:15,435 --> 01:34:15,702
Those opposed signify by saying

2559
01:34:15,702 --> 01:34:15,970
aye.

2560
01:34:15,970 --> 01:34:17,970
Aye.

2561
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:22,142
So we have a 2-2 vote which in

2562
01:34:22,142 --> 01:34:25,142
effect is a no vote.

2563
01:34:25,713 --> 01:34:27,982
Now, tell the public what

2564
01:34:27,982 --> 01:34:30,617
happens to this process when

2565
01:34:30,617 --> 01:34:32,186
we've had a no-vote.

2566
01:34:32,186 --> 01:34:32,720
Can you share is that with us

2567
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,322
from your knowledge.

2568
01:34:34,322 --> 01:34:37,322
>> it will stay the current

2569
01:34:37,525 --> 01:34:39,590
zoning, the rsf-1 and rsf-2.

2570
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:41,563
The applicant will have to wait

2571
01:34:41,563 --> 01:34:45,320
a year before he can come back

2572
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:45,366
and ask for another rezoning

2573
01:34:45,366 --> 01:34:46,367
request.

2574
01:34:46,367 --> 01:34:48,670
The home occupation won't be

2575
01:34:48,670 --> 01:34:49,438
able to be approved.

2576
01:34:49,438 --> 01:34:52,438
>> Chair Davis: does that mean

2577
01:34:52,807 --> 01:34:55,410
that he can't do this home

2578
01:34:55,410 --> 01:34:56,311
occupation under the current

2579
01:34:56,311 --> 01:34:57,120
zoning?

2580
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,120
>> no, sir.

2581
01:35:00,315 --> 01:35:00,715
We determined it was more of an

2582
01:35:00,715 --> 01:35:01,616
agriculture

2583
01:35:01,616 --> 01:35:04,616
al use so he would

2584
01:35:06,354 --> 01:35:07,422
need the ra zoning.

2585
01:35:07,422 --> 01:35:07,789
>> Chair Davis: back to my

2586
01:35:07,789 --> 01:35:09,789
question.

2587
01:35:12,427 --> 01:35:14,290
Whether he be able to use his

2588
01:35:14,290 --> 01:35:16,898
property for the processing that

2589
01:35:16,898 --> 01:35:17,199
he described s its currently

2590
01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:19,199
zoned?

2591
01:35:19,201 --> 01:35:23,401
>> he can do it for himself and

2592
01:35:30,450 --> 01:35:31,980
not as a business.

2593
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:32,281
>> Chair Davis: thank you,

2594
01:35:32,281 --> 01:35:34,281
ma'am.

2595
01:35:35,317 --> 01:35:38,888
>> next case is case re zoning

2596
01:35:38,888 --> 01:35:40,888
case z-21006.

2597
01:35:41,357 --> 01:35:42,191
>> wayne, can I make a

2598
01:35:42,191 --> 01:35:43,526
statement.

2599
01:35:43,526 --> 01:35:45,600
>> the junior embassadors have

2600
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:46,429
got to leave and I was going to

2601
01:35:46,429 --> 01:35:47,997
recognize them real quick and

2602
01:35:47,997 --> 01:35:49,698
let ashley come up and talk

2603
01:35:49,698 --> 01:35:50,466
about them real quick.

2604
01:35:50,466 --> 01:35:50,766
>> Chair Davis: sure, let's do

2605
01:35:50,766 --> 01:35:51,500
that.

2606
01:35:51,500 --> 01:35:52,669
If that's ok.

2607
01:35:52,669 --> 01:35:54,669
Come on, ashley.

2608
01:36:00,109 --> 01:36:00,810
Come on up.

2609
01:36:00,810 --> 01:36:01,110
>> I'm sorry, we have to leave

2610
01:36:01,110 --> 01:36:03,110
early.

2611
01:36:03,346 --> 01:36:04,800
We do have lunch with district

2612
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:05,215
attorney wilters and we don't

2613
01:36:05,215 --> 01:36:08,215
want to keep him waiting.

2614
01:36:08,651 --> 01:36:11,454
I want to make sure he is fed.

2615
01:36:11,454 --> 01:36:14,457
Thank you for allowing us for

2616
01:36:14,457 --> 01:36:16,192
taking time to spent with our

2617
01:36:16,192 --> 01:36:18,195
junior am bass doors and it's a

2618
01:36:18,195 --> 01:36:19,796
group of juniors and seniors

2619
01:36:19,796 --> 01:36:21,198
here in bay minette and they

2620
01:36:21,198 --> 01:36:23,000
participate in local government

2621
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:23,767
meetings to learn more about how

2622
01:36:23,767 --> 01:36:26,767
local government runs here at

2623
01:36:27,104 --> 01:36:27,404
the county level and the city

2624
01:36:27,404 --> 01:36:28,772
level.

2625
01:36:28,772 --> 01:36:30,207
In a typical year, they also

2626
01:36:30,207 --> 01:36:31,740
participate in all of our events

2627
01:36:31,740 --> 01:36:32,510
and other programs throughout

2628
01:36:32,510 --> 01:36:33,910
the community to network with

2629
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:36,146
business leaders, learn about

2630
01:36:36,146 --> 01:36:38,381
local businesses, learn about

2631
01:36:38,381 --> 01:36:40,781
local events and community

2632
01:36:55,766 --> 01:36:57,766
development.

2633
01:36:58,203 --> 01:36:58,608
>> my name is hamilton

2634
01:36:58,608 --> 01:36:59,603
weatherford.

2635
01:36:59,603 --> 01:37:01,405
I'm a senior and this is my

2636
01:37:01,405 --> 01:37:02,573
second year in the program.

2637
01:37:02,573 --> 01:37:04,973
>> Chair Davis: very good.

2638
01:37:06,344 --> 01:37:07,378
>> my name is kenneth and this

2639
01:37:07,378 --> 01:37:07,712
is my second year in the

2640
01:37:07,712 --> 01:37:08,945
program.

2641
01:37:08,945 --> 01:37:11,820
I want to thank y'all for

2642
01:37:11,820 --> 01:37:11,382
allowing us to come to this

2643
01:37:11,382 --> 01:37:13,382
today.

2644
01:37:16,354 --> 01:37:19,223
It's been very eventful and fun.

2645
01:37:19,223 --> 01:37:20,158
>> my name is brady and I'm a

2646
01:37:20,158 --> 01:37:21,293
senior at baldwin county high

2647
01:37:21,293 --> 01:37:23,461
school and this is my second

2648
01:37:23,461 --> 01:37:25,597
year in the program.

2649
01:37:25,597 --> 01:37:28,597
>> my name is blakely norris

2650
01:37:28,900 --> 01:37:30,402
this is my first year as a

2651
01:37:30,402 --> 01:37:30,735
junior ambassador and I'm a

2652
01:37:30,735 --> 01:37:32,304
senior.

2653
01:37:32,304 --> 01:37:34,573
>> I'm emma johnson a junior and

2654
01:37:34,573 --> 01:37:36,700
this is my first year of doing

2655
01:37:36,700 --> 01:37:37,309
junior am bars doors and thank

2656
01:37:37,309 --> 01:37:39,811
you for letting us come.

2657
01:37:39,811 --> 01:37:40,846
>> my name is tyler and I'm a

2658
01:37:40,846 --> 01:37:42,281
senior and this is my second

2659
01:37:42,281 --> 01:37:43,548
year in the program and I want

2660
01:37:43,548 --> 01:37:45,717
to thank y'all for letting us

2661
01:37:45,717 --> 01:37:46,752
see this part of county

2662
01:37:46,752 --> 01:37:48,420
government, I know up until now

2663
01:37:48,420 --> 01:37:49,200
I haven't seen this

2664
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:49,555
interaction-type place.

2665
01:37:49,555 --> 01:37:50,656
Thank you all.

2666
01:37:50,656 --> 01:37:52,910
>> thank you.

2667
01:37:52,910 --> 01:37:53,492
>> my name is lindsey stewart

2668
01:37:53,492 --> 01:37:55,327
I'm a senior and this is my

2669
01:37:55,327 --> 01:37:57,763
second year in the program and

2670
01:37:57,763 --> 01:37:59,763
that was interesting.

2671
01:38:00,599 --> 01:38:01,634
>> hi, I'm emily scar brow and

2672
01:38:01,634 --> 01:38:02,568
I'm a junior and this is my

2673
01:38:02,568 --> 01:38:04,136
first year in the program.

2674
01:38:04,136 --> 01:38:06,136
Thank you.

2675
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,342
>> my name is andrew guy and I'm

2676
01:38:10,342 --> 01:38:14,542
a junior and this is my irst

2677
01:39:18,279 --> 01:39:19,413
year of junior ambassador.

2678
01:39:19,413 --> 01:39:21,413
>> planning district 12.

2679
01:39:22,830 --> 01:39:24,718
As you can see, to the north,

2680
01:39:24,718 --> 01:39:28,918
the property is on zone b-3 to

2681
01:39:29,790 --> 01:39:33,990
the east and south there is b4

2682
01:39:38,833 --> 01:39:40,833
and it's rsf-3.

2683
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,975
Their plans is to combine that

2684
01:39:46,975 --> 01:39:47,307
parcel with the b-4 for many

2685
01:39:47,307 --> 01:39:48,610
storage.

2686
01:39:48,610 --> 01:39:50,879
You have to have a minute pum of

2687
01:39:50,879 --> 01:39:54,479
three acres for mini storage and

2688
01:40:01,656 --> 01:40:01,923
that parcel only consists of 2.1 acres so they're requiring

2689
01:40:01,923 --> 01:40:03,923
it.

2690
01:40:06,328 --> 01:40:07,528
Here is the crist plan for the

2691
01:40:07,528 --> 01:40:09,798
previous storage unit approved

2692
01:40:09,798 --> 01:40:10,332
to the south and east of the

2693
01:40:10,332 --> 01:40:12,332
subject property.

2694
01:40:13,602 --> 01:40:17,202
They do have access off of

2695
01:40:18,274 --> 01:40:18,574
highway 59 and also off of rolls

2696
01:40:18,574 --> 01:40:20,107
road.

2697
01:40:20,107 --> 01:40:23,512
They did receive a permit from

2698
01:40:23,512 --> 01:40:25,180
the state and county highway

2699
01:40:25,180 --> 01:40:26,948
department.

2700
01:40:26,948 --> 01:40:29,218
prior to today, we only received

2701
01:40:29,218 --> 01:40:32,218
one phone call in opposition.

2702
01:40:32,454 --> 01:40:36,654
I do believe today we received a

2703
01:40:36,792 --> 01:40:39,950
couple of e-mails against and we

2704
01:40:39,950 --> 01:40:42,695
had the lady here during work

2705
01:40:42,932 --> 01:40:43,999
session that was against it.

2706
01:40:43,999 --> 01:40:46,267
Staff recommended approval and

2707
01:40:46,267 --> 01:40:47,602
the planning commission also

2708
01:40:47,602 --> 01:40:50,200
recommended approval at their

2709
01:40:53,376 --> 01:40:54,442
January meeting.

2710
01:40:54,442 --> 01:40:55,510
>> Chair Davis: all right.

2711
01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:56,779
Do we have anyone signed up to

2712
01:40:56,779 --> 01:40:58,414
speak on this topic?

2713
01:40:58,414 --> 01:41:00,414
>> yes, sir.

2714
01:41:02,651 --> 01:41:03,386
We have the applicant.

2715
01:41:03,386 --> 01:41:03,853
>> Chair Davis: if you could

2716
01:41:03,853 --> 01:41:05,755
come forward.

2717
01:41:05,755 --> 01:41:08,755
We limit it to throw

2718
01:41:11,940 --> 01:41:13,940
hree minutes.

2719
01:41:13,196 --> 01:41:14,297
>> tom grain ger.

2720
01:41:14,297 --> 01:41:14,564
I really don't ave a lot to

2721
01:41:14,564 --> 01:41:16,564
add.

2722
01:41:17,330 --> 01:41:18,680
The intent is to combine this

2723
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:19,503
property with the property to

2724
01:41:19,503 --> 01:41:23,703
the east and the south and it's

2725
01:41:25,108 --> 01:41:26,642
currently b-4 and just expand

2726
01:41:26,642 --> 01:41:26,910
the development we're going to

2727
01:41:26,910 --> 01:41:27,677
do.

2728
01:41:27,677 --> 01:41:31,277
>> Chair Davis: do we have any

2729
01:41:31,314 --> 01:41:32,616
questions or concerns from

2730
01:41:32,616 --> 01:41:34,616
commission?

2731
01:41:34,750 --> 01:41:35,919
>> the lady that was here

2732
01:41:35,919 --> 01:41:37,320
earlier said she was just

2733
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:38,555
worried about people driving in

2734
01:41:38,555 --> 01:41:41,240
and off of the road.

2735
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,624
That's not your intention to use

2736
01:41:44,695 --> 01:41:45,110
that road primarily, is it?

2737
01:41:45,110 --> 01:41:47,110
>> no.

2738
01:41:47,665 --> 01:41:50,000
We have a turnout permit on

2739
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:50,834
rolls for the b-4 property

2740
01:41:50,834 --> 01:41:52,503
already in place.

2741
01:41:52,503 --> 01:41:54,637
The intent would be to try to

2742
01:41:54,637 --> 01:41:56,640
use it, we're going to tie in

2743
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:57,141
the highway 59 through that

2744
01:41:57,141 --> 01:41:58,342
property as well.

2745
01:41:58,342 --> 01:42:00,144
We ould reduce cost.

2746
01:42:00,144 --> 01:42:01,946
The owner would reduce cost if

2747
01:42:01,946 --> 01:42:02,445
he just uses the ccess he

2748
01:42:02,445 --> 01:42:04,445
already has.

2749
01:42:04,882 --> 01:42:05,683
>> thank you.

2750
01:42:05,683 --> 01:42:08,830
>> Chair Davis: any other

2751
01:42:08,286 --> 01:42:08,686
questions or comments from the

2752
01:42:08,686 --> 01:42:10,288
commission?

2753
01:42:10,288 --> 01:42:10,822
>> wayne, o we have anyone

2754
01:42:10,822 --> 01:42:12,190
signed up.

2755
01:42:12,190 --> 01:42:14,158
>> I just wanted to mention we

2756
01:42:14,158 --> 01:42:15,927
did get an e-mail from the

2757
01:42:15,927 --> 01:42:17,729
person who spoke this morning at

2758
01:42:17,729 --> 01:42:21,929
the work session and that is in

2759
01:42:22,967 --> 01:42:27,167
the record as well of her e-mail

2760
01:42:30,241 --> 01:42:31,420
pressing her concerns.

2761
01:42:31,420 --> 01:42:31,710
>> Chair Davis: anybody in the

2762
01:42:31,710 --> 01:42:33,710
audience feel compelled.

2763
01:42:36,381 --> 01:42:36,715
If not, we'll close the public

2764
01:42:36,715 --> 01:42:38,383
hearing.

2765
01:42:38,383 --> 01:42:40,952
>> I make the motion that we

2766
01:42:40,952 --> 01:42:41,453
approve this case number

2767
01:42:41,453 --> 01:42:42,720
recommended by staff.

2768
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:43,488
>> I'll second the motion.

2769
01:42:43,488 --> 01:42:44,389
>> Chair Davis: we've got a

2770
01:42:44,389 --> 01:42:46,789
motion and a second.

2771
01:42:47,291 --> 01:42:49,291
Any other discussion?

2772
01:42:49,294 --> 01:42:51,296
If not, all in favor signify by

2773
01:42:51,296 --> 01:42:51,930
saying aye.

2774
01:42:51,930 --> 01:42:53,198
Aye.

2775
01:42:53,198 --> 01:42:54,632
Opposed like sign.

2776
01:42:54,632 --> 01:42:56,632
It's unanimous.

2777
01:42:58,570 --> 01:43:00,471
>> the last rezoning is case

2778
01:43:00,471 --> 01:43:02,471
number z-21007.

2779
01:43:02,808 --> 01:43:05,678
This is the ent enterprises

2780
01:43:05,678 --> 01:43:06,245
property rezoning and

2781
01:43:06,245 --> 01:43:08,547
Mrs. Boykin is here

2782
01:43:08,547 --> 01:43:09,480
is here to present

2783
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:11,480
this case.

2784
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:15,488
>> to rezone 76 acres from ra to

2785
01:43:15,488 --> 01:43:18,157
rsf-2 single family in order to

2786
01:43:18,157 --> 01:43:18,557
develop a residential

2787
01:43:18,557 --> 01:43:20,557
subdivision.

2788
01:43:21,593 --> 01:43:24,593
The property is located on

2789
01:43:24,830 --> 01:43:25,231
county road 12 south in planning

2790
01:43:25,231 --> 01:43:26,766
district 21.

2791
01:43:26,766 --> 01:43:27,833
As you can see, there's a

2792
01:43:27,833 --> 01:43:30,233
subdivision to the west.

2793
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:32,838
Which is owned rsf-2.

2794
01:43:32,838 --> 01:43:35,238
The remaining adjacent property

2795
01:43:36,142 --> 01:43:39,742
is zoned ra into the east.

2796
01:43:40,246 --> 01:43:42,715
The subject property is unzoned.

2797
01:43:42,715 --> 01:43:44,851
This property is located in

2798
01:43:44,851 --> 01:43:46,851
foley's etj.

2799
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:50,189
So, if the rezoning is approved,

2800
01:43:50,189 --> 01:43:51,224
the county would review the

2801
01:43:51,224 --> 01:43:53,624
subdivision in-house and they

2802
01:43:54,293 --> 01:43:57,630
would go to go to oley's

2803
01:43:57,630 --> 01:43:58,310
planning commission for approval

2804
01:43:58,310 --> 01:44:00,310
approval.

2805
01:44:03,370 --> 01:44:06,740
The lots for r sf-2 is a minimum

2806
01:44:06,740 --> 01:44:08,375
of 15,000 square feet with

2807
01:44:08,375 --> 01:44:09,309
80-foot wide lots.

2808
01:44:09,309 --> 01:44:10,544
The staff recommended approval

2809
01:44:10,544 --> 01:44:11,812
and the planning commission

2810
01:44:11,812 --> 01:44:14,212
recommended approval at their

2811
01:44:15,415 --> 01:44:16,717
February meeting.

2812
01:44:16,717 --> 01:44:20,917
>> we have no one signed up to

2813
01:44:21,955 --> 01:44:24,355
speak on this topic.

2814
01:44:25,393 --> 01:44:28,262
Tom is here as the applicant on

2815
01:44:28,262 --> 01:44:30,640
this case.

2816
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:30,664
Any questions?

2817
01:44:30,664 --> 01:44:31,332
>> Chair Davis: ok.

2818
01:44:31,332 --> 01:44:32,867
No one else signed up.

2819
01:44:32,867 --> 01:44:34,201
No one has asked or raised their

2820
01:44:34,201 --> 01:44:36,201
hand to speak.

2821
01:44:37,505 --> 01:44:38,472
So at this point, we'll close

2822
01:44:38,472 --> 01:44:40,472
this hearing.

2823
01:44:40,841 --> 01:44:43,841
And now have this particular

2824
01:44:47,382 --> 01:44:47,782
case z-21007 before the ounty

2825
01:44:47,782 --> 01:44:49,782
commission.

2826
01:44:50,317 --> 01:44:52,854
>> I make a motion we approve

2827
01:44:52,854 --> 01:44:53,688
this case z-21007.

2828
01:44:53,688 --> 01:44:54,455
>> 'll second.

2829
01:44:54,455 --> 01:44:55,690
>> Chair Davis: we've got a

2830
01:44:55,690 --> 01:44:58,900
motion and a second.

2831
01:44:59,727 --> 01:45:01,262
Dealing with the case z-21007.

2832
01:45:01,262 --> 01:45:03,631
Any other discussion or

2833
01:45:03,631 --> 01:45:04,899
comments?

2834
01:45:04,899 --> 01:45:06,801
Hearing none, all in favor

2835
01:45:06,801 --> 01:45:07,635
signify by saying aye.

2836
01:45:07,635 --> 01:45:08,470
Aye.

2837
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:09,503
Opposed like sign.

2838
01:45:09,503 --> 01:45:10,338
It is unanimous.

2839
01:45:10,338 --> 01:45:10,939
Thank you, sir.

2840
01:45:10,939 --> 01:45:11,773
Thank you.

2841
01:45:11,773 --> 01:45:13,773
>> thank you.

2842
01:45:13,975 --> 01:45:15,100
>> next is the committee reports

2843
01:45:15,100 --> 01:45:18,680
and the first one is payment of

2844
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:19,848
the bills.

2845
01:45:19,848 --> 01:45:21,848
>> yes, sir.

2846
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,284
I make a motion that we pay

2847
01:45:27,923 --> 01:45:28,756
bills totaling

2848
01:45:28,756 --> 01:45:30,756
$13,938,214.30 with the

2849
01:45:32,828 --> 01:45:33,996
exception of those vendors

2850
01:45:33,996 --> 01:45:35,431
requested to be pulled, which

2851
01:45:35,431 --> 01:45:38,431
there are none listed today.

2852
01:45:41,737 --> 01:45:43,720
Of this amount,

2853
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,472
$9,783,658.25 was paid to the

2854
01:45:46,408 --> 01:45:48,808
baldwin county board of

2855
01:45:50,713 --> 01:45:52,713
education and $611,663.74 was

2856
01:45:53,449 --> 01:45:54,684
paid to the gulf shores board of

2857
01:45:54,684 --> 01:45:56,853
education for their portion of

2858
01:45:56,853 --> 01:45:58,254
the county sales and use tax.

2859
01:45:58,254 --> 01:45:59,588
>> Chair Davis: we have a motion

2860
01:45:59,588 --> 01:46:00,220
from commissioner ball, do I

2861
01:46:00,220 --> 01:46:01,257
hear a second.

2862
01:46:01,257 --> 01:46:02,391
>> I'll second the motion.

2863
01:46:02,391 --> 01:46:04,791
>> we have a second.

2864
01:46:04,793 --> 01:46:05,940
Any other discussions or

2865
01:46:05,940 --> 01:46:06,529
comments.

2866
01:46:06,529 --> 01:46:08,664
Hearing none, all in favor

2867
01:46:08,664 --> 01:46:08,931
signify by saying aye.

2868
01:46:08,931 --> 01:46:09,599
Aye.

2869
01:46:09,599 --> 01:46:10,800
It's unanimous.

2870
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:12,800
Thank you, jeb.

2871
01:46:12,935 --> 01:46:15,137
>> next item is ea-2.

2872
01:46:15,137 --> 01:46:17,400
Notification of interim payments

2873
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:17,841
approved by the clerk treasurer

2874
01:46:17,841 --> 01:46:19,209
and staff recommendation is to

2875
01:46:19,209 --> 01:46:22,209
make the attached payments made

2876
01:46:26,282 --> 01:46:28,418
by the clerk treasurer totaling

2877
01:46:28,418 --> 01:46:28,751
2,240,697.76 and make it for the

2878
01:46:28,751 --> 01:46:29,486
record.

2879
01:46:29,486 --> 01:46:33,860
>> Chair Davis: do we have a

2880
01:46:39,329 --> 01:46:41,329
motion to pprove.

2881
01:46:41,698 --> 01:46:43,967
>> we about those and fa-1 will

2882
01:46:43,967 --> 01:46:45,502
be brought back at a subsequent

2883
01:46:45,502 --> 01:46:47,504
meeting and the plaque and

2884
01:46:47,504 --> 01:46:50,504
courthouse and we'll get that

2885
01:46:51,308 --> 01:46:52,509
done with your consent and also,

2886
01:46:52,509 --> 01:46:54,712
efe-1 regarding the grants that

2887
01:46:54,712 --> 01:46:57,881
will be coming back as an item

2888
01:46:57,881 --> 01:46:59,183
at a subsequent meeting.

2889
01:46:59,183 --> 01:47:02,183
>> o we need a motion?

2890
01:47:02,318 --> 01:47:05,918
>> I'll make a motion that we

2891
01:47:06,457 --> 01:47:08,457
approve staff recommendations

2892
01:47:18,536 --> 01:47:19,470
for item number.

2893
01:47:19,470 --> 01:47:21,470
>> it's unanimous.

2894
01:47:26,244 --> 01:47:26,611
>> it brings down to commission

2895
01:47:26,611 --> 01:47:27,311
questions.

2896
01:47:27,311 --> 01:47:28,213
>> I do have any questions?

2897
01:47:28,213 --> 01:47:29,113
>> no.

2898
01:47:29,113 --> 01:47:31,113
>> nor do I.

2899
01:47:32,850 --> 01:47:35,250
>> next are the addendum.

2900
01:47:35,687 --> 01:47:37,322
we have ha-1 regarding the fire

2901
01:47:37,322 --> 01:47:38,756
department, I believe laura has

2902
01:47:38,756 --> 01:47:41,756
looked into this matter and

2903
01:47:42,494 --> 01:47:43,762
laura, do you want to speak to

2904
01:47:43,762 --> 01:47:45,762
that?

2905
01:47:46,364 --> 01:47:49,364
>> I think it's arguable this

2906
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:52,700
use mayen be allowed under the

2907
01:47:52,700 --> 01:47:54,672
subsection c-1 of the local act

2908
01:47:54,672 --> 01:47:57,720
that creates this tax.

2909
01:47:58,810 --> 01:48:01,680
And even if it doesn't, he

2910
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:03,749
commission is still can allow it

2911
01:48:03,749 --> 01:48:04,682
as an exception under subsection

2912
01:48:04,682 --> 01:48:05,851
2.

2913
01:48:05,851 --> 01:48:08,851
Provided that they've gotten the

2914
01:48:10,220 --> 01:48:11,490
fire chief's approval and I

2915
01:48:11,490 --> 01:48:13,490
think they have.

2916
01:48:13,726 --> 01:48:14,994
>> thank you so much.

2917
01:48:14,994 --> 01:48:15,828
Does that mean that we need to

2918
01:48:15,828 --> 01:48:17,496
act on this?

2919
01:48:17,496 --> 01:48:19,498
>> I make a motion we approve

2920
01:48:19,498 --> 01:48:21,399
item ha-1.

2921
01:48:21,399 --> 01:48:22,935
>> I'll second the motion.

2922
01:48:22,935 --> 01:48:24,670
>> so we've got a motion and a

2923
01:48:24,670 --> 01:48:26,906
second on item ha-1.

2924
01:48:26,906 --> 01:48:27,439
Any further discussion?

2925
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:29,439
Hearing none.

2926
01:48:30,942 --> 01:48:31,944
All in favor signify by saying

2927
01:48:31,944 --> 01:48:32,211
aye.

2928
01:48:32,211 --> 01:48:32,578
Aye.

2929
01:48:32,578 --> 01:48:34,578
Unanimous.

2930
01:48:35,248 --> 01:48:37,216
>> regarding ha-2.

2931
01:48:37,216 --> 01:48:37,817
The federal staff recommended

2932
01:48:37,817 --> 01:48:39,118
approval.

2933
01:48:39,118 --> 01:48:39,919
>> so moved Mr. Chairman.

2934
01:48:39,919 --> 01:48:40,520
>> Chair Davis: we have a motion

2935
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:40,919
do we have a second.

2936
01:48:40,919 --> 01:48:42,188
>> second.

2937
01:48:42,188 --> 01:48:44,657
>> we have a motion and a second

2938
01:48:44,657 --> 01:48:45,858
on ha-2, all in favor saying

2939
01:48:45,858 --> 01:48:46,125
aye.

2940
01:48:46,125 --> 01:48:47,759
Aye.

2941
01:48:47,759 --> 01:48:49,759
>> unanimous.

2942
01:48:51,431 --> 01:48:51,764
>> next is the add straight

2943
01:48:51,764 --> 01:48:53,990
report.

2944
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:54,734
I would like to recognize two

2945
01:48:54,734 --> 01:48:56,269
groups of people for the county

2946
01:48:56,269 --> 01:48:58,438
employees if you don't mind.

2947
01:48:58,438 --> 01:49:00,340
First come to the podium.

2948
01:49:00,340 --> 01:49:03,176
Shannon, as you now is the

2949
01:49:03,176 --> 01:49:03,510
director of our citizens service

2950
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:04,310
center.

2951
01:49:04,310 --> 01:49:05,879
And they take in a lot of calls

2952
01:49:05,879 --> 01:49:07,914
and I want to make everyone

2953
01:49:07,914 --> 01:49:11,514
aware of the work they do.

2954
01:49:15,188 --> 01:49:17,188
In 2020, they received 245,245

2955
01:49:17,491 --> 01:49:19,359
calls all handled and they did a

2956
01:49:19,359 --> 01:49:22,429
great job many of the true story

2957
01:49:22,429 --> 01:49:25,429
regarding those calls is 27% of

2958
01:49:26,333 --> 01:49:27,435
those calls end with them.

2959
01:49:27,435 --> 01:49:29,690
They do get passed around.

2960
01:49:29,690 --> 01:49:30,371
They've done a great job of

2961
01:49:30,371 --> 01:49:32,139
developing this knowledge base

2962
01:49:32,139 --> 01:49:33,239
where when someone calls and ask

2963
01:49:33,239 --> 01:49:34,708
a question, they record the

2964
01:49:34,708 --> 01:49:36,276
question and the answers so

2965
01:49:36,276 --> 01:49:36,877
they're not having to recreate

2966
01:49:36,877 --> 01:49:38,877
answers again.

2967
01:49:39,790 --> 01:49:40,880
I just want to recognize shannon

2968
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,149
and her team for doing an

2969
01:49:42,149 --> 01:49:44,185
incredible job and doing a great

2970
01:49:44,185 --> 01:49:47,120
deal of work and a huge workload

2971
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,156
during the storm, they assisted

2972
01:49:49,156 --> 01:49:50,491
ima with phone calls and did a

2973
01:49:50,491 --> 01:49:52,126
wonderful job and they take

2974
01:49:52,126 --> 01:49:54,128
their job seriously and trying

2975
01:49:54,128 --> 01:49:55,329
to provide great service to

2976
01:49:55,329 --> 01:49:57,597
those people who are calling and

2977
01:49:57,597 --> 01:49:58,833
calling the county that is their

2978
01:49:58,833 --> 01:49:59,734
first impression of the county

2979
01:49:59,734 --> 01:50:01,503
when they call someone.

2980
01:50:01,503 --> 01:50:02,970
If they're getting answers

2981
01:50:02,970 --> 01:50:05,370
quickly and accurately, which

2982
01:50:05,473 --> 01:50:07,575
they do very well, it looks very

2983
01:50:07,575 --> 01:50:09,344
good on the county's behalf.

2984
01:50:09,344 --> 01:50:09,711
I want to recognize her

2985
01:50:09,711 --> 01:50:10,178
publicly.

2986
01:50:10,178 --> 01:50:11,678
And her staff.

2987
01:50:11,678 --> 01:50:14,678
I want to thing them

2988
01:50:15,616 --> 01:50:16,451
thank them very much.

2989
01:50:16,451 --> 01:50:17,419
>> Chair Davis: would you like

2990
01:50:17,419 --> 01:50:19,419
to say something?

2991
01:50:19,688 --> 01:50:21,923
>> I want to tell y'all how much

2992
01:50:21,923 --> 01:50:24,259
I appreciate the focus this

2993
01:50:24,259 --> 01:50:26,659
commission has and this

2994
01:50:27,620 --> 01:50:28,797
administration has on customer

2995
01:50:28,797 --> 01:50:30,499
service and knowing how

2996
01:50:30,499 --> 01:50:30,866
important it is to serve our

2997
01:50:30,866 --> 01:50:32,866
citizens.

2998
01:50:33,835 --> 01:50:36,538
Obviously I did not answer

2999
01:50:36,538 --> 01:50:36,939
250,000 phone calls in the past

3000
01:50:36,939 --> 01:50:38,939
year.

3001
01:50:40,776 --> 01:50:43,512
I mean, what I do is -- the hard

3002
01:50:43,512 --> 01:50:46,140
work is done by my team in the

3003
01:50:46,140 --> 01:50:49,140
service center or cis helping

3004
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:49,384
get us the equipment that we

3005
01:50:49,384 --> 01:50:51,384
need.

3006
01:50:51,687 --> 01:50:54,230
Just so many people that

3007
01:50:54,230 --> 01:50:54,323
actually do the really hard

3008
01:50:54,323 --> 01:50:55,691
work.

3009
01:50:55,691 --> 01:50:56,910
It's always nice to be

3010
01:50:56,910 --> 01:50:58,910
recognized.

3011
01:50:58,394 --> 01:51:00,262
I really appreciate it.

3012
01:51:00,262 --> 01:51:02,898
I will say that there has never

3013
01:51:02,898 --> 01:51:05,340
been a ime in my 15 years here

3014
01:51:05,340 --> 01:51:06,335
that I've been more excited to

3015
01:51:06,335 --> 01:51:09,438
come to work everyday and see

3016
01:51:09,438 --> 01:51:13,750
what is going to happen next and

3017
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:13,442
what we're going to do for our

3018
01:51:13,442 --> 01:51:14,376
customers.

3019
01:51:14,376 --> 01:51:15,711
Thank you.

3020
01:51:15,711 --> 01:51:16,513
>> I was going to thank you so

3021
01:51:16,513 --> 01:51:18,810
much for what you do.

3022
01:51:18,810 --> 01:51:20,350
I want to thank you for llowing

3023
01:51:20,350 --> 01:51:22,850
me to get a taste of your life

3024
01:51:22,850 --> 01:51:24,319
and it's me sitting in that

3025
01:51:24,319 --> 01:51:26,222
chair with the headset on for

3026
01:51:26,222 --> 01:51:28,158
about a good two or three hours.

3027
01:51:28,158 --> 01:51:31,360
I took two or three hundred

3028
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:31,794
calls for you and it's quite

3029
01:51:31,794 --> 01:51:33,794
entertaining.

3030
01:51:33,930 --> 01:51:34,264
I deal with phone calls all

3031
01:51:34,264 --> 01:51:35,365
daylong.

3032
01:51:35,365 --> 01:51:36,766
You've ot some real nice people

3033
01:51:36,766 --> 01:51:38,401
that call and you've got some

3034
01:51:38,401 --> 01:51:38,702
real not so nice people that

3035
01:51:38,702 --> 01:51:40,436
call.

3036
01:51:40,436 --> 01:51:42,105
One thing that I taught shannon

3037
01:51:42,105 --> 01:51:45,142
and them, I wish we could talk

3038
01:51:45,142 --> 01:51:47,444
to them like you talk to them.

3039
01:51:47,444 --> 01:51:49,279
Sometimes you have to get a

3040
01:51:49,279 --> 01:51:51,214
good, stern voice and they

3041
01:51:51,214 --> 01:51:52,783
always are very nice group of

3042
01:51:52,783 --> 01:51:54,918
people to work with down there

3043
01:51:54,918 --> 01:51:56,520
and that was a humbling

3044
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:57,588
experience and it made me

3045
01:51:57,588 --> 01:52:00,190
realize exactly what you do now

3046
01:52:00,190 --> 01:52:01,224
many of and I just need to get

3047
01:52:01,224 --> 01:52:03,160
to the other departments.

3048
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:03,927
Get on a motor grader and do

3049
01:52:03,927 --> 01:52:05,927
some other things.

3050
01:52:07,131 --> 01:52:07,597
try it all-out.

3051
01:52:07,597 --> 01:52:08,833
Garbage trucks.

3052
01:52:08,833 --> 01:52:11,233
Thank you for everything.

3053
01:52:15,672 --> 01:52:17,341
It's been a pleasure.

3054
01:52:17,341 --> 01:52:19,341
>> absolutely.

3055
01:52:19,477 --> 01:52:20,511
I grow with everything he said.

3056
01:52:20,511 --> 01:52:21,278
I didn't answer calls but I

3057
01:52:21,278 --> 01:52:24,278
appreciate the small amount of

3058
01:52:25,916 --> 01:52:27,518
time I did and I think that this

3059
01:52:27,518 --> 01:52:30,555
past year has given us a lot of

3060
01:52:30,555 --> 01:52:34,155
new challenges and you guys did

3061
01:52:36,260 --> 01:52:36,794
an awesome job of tackling those

3062
01:52:36,794 --> 01:52:38,794
head on.

3063
01:52:40,164 --> 01:52:41,633
Not only did we have the

3064
01:52:41,633 --> 01:52:43,670
pandemic, which we're still

3065
01:52:43,670 --> 01:52:44,235
dealing with and we're still

3066
01:52:44,235 --> 01:52:45,570
dealing with clean up.

3067
01:52:45,570 --> 01:52:48,873
We had four states of emergency

3068
01:52:48,873 --> 01:52:49,941
in three of them were valid.

3069
01:52:49,941 --> 01:52:50,942
So, got to know you guys a

3070
01:52:50,942 --> 01:52:51,976
little bit better during all

3071
01:52:51,976 --> 01:52:54,913
that so thank you so much.

3072
01:52:54,913 --> 01:52:56,514
I appreciate you.

3073
01:52:56,514 --> 01:52:58,514
>> thank you.

3074
01:52:58,750 --> 01:53:00,185
>> thank you all very much.

3075
01:53:00,185 --> 01:53:03,185
I don't know people don't

3076
01:53:05,824 --> 01:53:08,293
realize how many calls you take

3077
01:53:08,293 --> 01:53:10,293
and

3078
01:53:11,290 --> 01:53:13,966
move of them are handled and I

3079
01:53:13,966 --> 01:53:16,966
appreciate all the hard work

3080
01:53:17,870 --> 01:53:19,338
staff does.

3081
01:53:19,338 --> 01:53:21,738
Setting back and answering 200

3082
01:53:23,542 --> 01:53:25,144
calls a day or whatever, this is

3083
01:53:25,144 --> 01:53:26,211
a big county and there's a lot

3084
01:53:26,211 --> 01:53:28,280
of people that call.

3085
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:28,547
Thank you all for doing what do

3086
01:53:28,547 --> 01:53:29,470
you.

3087
01:53:29,470 --> 01:53:31,470
>> thank you.

3088
01:53:31,416 --> 01:53:33,552
And I just realized during your

3089
01:53:33,552 --> 01:53:35,870
four-year term, I guess we

3090
01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:38,870
answered a million hone calls.

3091
01:53:38,124 --> 01:53:39,425
>> you are right.

3092
01:53:39,425 --> 01:53:41,825
>> Chair Davis: there is 229,000

3093
01:53:41,894 --> 01:53:44,463
more that will want to call

3094
01:53:44,463 --> 01:53:45,765
having had somewhat a similar

3095
01:53:45,765 --> 01:53:49,635
experience, I had a guy tell me

3096
01:53:49,635 --> 01:53:51,304
when someone ot a little ut of

3097
01:53:51,304 --> 01:53:53,573
sorts, to ask them, particularly

3098
01:53:53,573 --> 01:53:53,839
if it was a guy talking to a

3099
01:53:53,839 --> 01:53:54,507
guy.

3100
01:53:54,507 --> 01:53:55,341
do you kiss your mother with

3101
01:53:55,341 --> 01:53:57,341
that mouth?

3102
01:53:58,278 --> 01:54:00,678
And t's amazing thousand

3103
01:54:00,947 --> 01:54:02,815
how it might

3104
01:54:02,815 --> 01:54:03,716
change their tone or attitude.

3105
01:54:03,716 --> 01:54:05,716
We appreciate it.

3106
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,255
As I've said before and I'll

3107
01:54:09,255 --> 01:54:11,124
keep saying it, it honors me to

3108
01:54:11,124 --> 01:54:13,590
be a part f a small team that

3109
01:54:13,590 --> 01:54:14,561
gets things done, not just now

3110
01:54:14,561 --> 01:54:15,862
but going forward.

3111
01:54:15,862 --> 01:54:17,664
Convey that to all your people.

3112
01:54:17,664 --> 01:54:19,971
>> I will, I wish they could all

3113
01:54:19,971 --> 01:54:21,234
be here.

3114
01:54:21,234 --> 01:54:21,568
They're busy the day after a

3115
01:54:21,568 --> 01:54:23,568
holiday.

3116
01:54:24,304 --> 01:54:25,338
They all take their jobs very

3117
01:54:25,338 --> 01:54:28,338
seriously and nothing that we

3118
01:54:29,476 --> 01:54:31,612
have thrown at them this year

3119
01:54:31,612 --> 01:54:32,912
has made any of them question

3120
01:54:32,912 --> 01:54:36,512
what they're doing and how much

3121
01:54:37,117 --> 01:54:39,517
they love their job.

3122
01:54:39,987 --> 01:54:43,587
>> I wanted to say out of

3123
01:54:43,757 --> 01:54:45,757
254,000 calls, only 27% get

3124
01:54:48,328 --> 01:54:49,396
forwarded to someone else.

3125
01:54:49,396 --> 01:54:50,970
>> Chair Davis: I was impressed

3126
01:54:50,970 --> 01:54:51,933
the other way.

3127
01:54:51,933 --> 01:54:54,101
>> we're working on being able

3128
01:54:54,101 --> 01:54:56,270
to end more and more and I plan

3129
01:54:56,270 --> 01:54:58,670
on giving a presentation

3130
01:55:00,841 --> 01:55:03,744
probably at a next work session

3131
01:55:03,744 --> 01:55:07,344
about ome of the things we're

3132
01:55:07,482 --> 01:55:09,217
working on with the building

3133
01:55:09,217 --> 01:55:10,885
department and planning and

3134
01:55:10,885 --> 01:55:12,653
zoning those through my next

3135
01:55:12,653 --> 01:55:13,955
target so we'll sit down and

3136
01:55:13,955 --> 01:55:17,292
spend time together and get to

3137
01:55:17,292 --> 01:55:19,661
know their processes so we can

3138
01:55:19,661 --> 01:55:19,994
end even more calls in our

3139
01:55:19,994 --> 01:55:21,950
center.

3140
01:55:21,950 --> 01:55:23,197
>> Chair Davis: that's getting

3141
01:55:23,197 --> 01:55:24,165
better as we get bigger.

3142
01:55:24,165 --> 01:55:26,165
Thank you.

3143
01:55:28,536 --> 01:55:30,710
>> those alls ending with

3144
01:55:30,710 --> 01:55:30,505
shannon's staff means more

3145
01:55:30,505 --> 01:55:31,239
productivity.

3146
01:55:31,239 --> 01:55:32,806
>> exactly.

3147
01:55:32,806 --> 01:55:33,641
>> the last group I want to

3148
01:55:33,641 --> 01:55:35,377
recognize, I'm sorry it's taking

3149
01:55:35,377 --> 01:55:38,245
so long but these are very

3150
01:55:38,245 --> 01:55:41,183
important is the cis department

3151
01:55:41,183 --> 01:55:42,351
primarily brian peacock, susan

3152
01:55:42,351 --> 01:55:44,953
kilby, kish and grace, they're

3153
01:55:44,953 --> 01:55:45,554
outside, first I want to mention

3154
01:55:45,554 --> 01:55:47,954
kish and grace, they're

3155
01:55:51,325 --> 01:55:52,861
programmers with us, we took

3156
01:55:52,861 --> 01:55:54,163
over the rv park.

3157
01:55:54,163 --> 01:55:58,363
Would you go out and buy that

3158
01:56:00,902 --> 01:56:02,204
system from a vendor, grace and

3159
01:56:02,204 --> 01:56:05,204
kish developed our own program

3160
01:56:05,340 --> 01:56:06,775
where can you go online and book

3161
01:56:06,775 --> 01:56:08,677
your site at the rv site.

3162
01:56:08,677 --> 01:56:10,646
I want to recognize kish and

3163
01:56:10,646 --> 01:56:11,347
grace for the great work on

3164
01:56:11,347 --> 01:56:13,347
create tag site

3165
01:56:15,183 --> 01:56:15,785
creating that site.

3166
01:56:15,785 --> 01:56:16,519
It's been working well.

3167
01:56:16,519 --> 01:56:18,540
Any time you take over something

3168
01:56:18,540 --> 01:56:20,456
new there's bumps in the road

3169
01:56:20,456 --> 01:56:22,458
from other issues but the work

3170
01:56:22,458 --> 01:56:23,793
they did on the reservation

3171
01:56:23,793 --> 01:56:25,795
system as worked flawlessly and

3172
01:56:25,795 --> 01:56:27,430
been good and to have that kind

3173
01:56:27,430 --> 01:56:28,931
of knowledge and ability on our

3174
01:56:28,931 --> 01:56:30,931
staff, is phenomenal.

3175
01:56:31,901 --> 01:56:33,836
We don't have to go ut and hire

3176
01:56:33,836 --> 01:56:34,169
a vendor that will charge us

3177
01:56:34,169 --> 01:56:35,270
double.

3178
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:38,174
I want to recognize them.

3179
01:56:38,174 --> 01:56:40,574
Thank you very much.

3180
01:56:41,177 --> 01:56:42,879
And also, brian and suzanne have

3181
01:56:42,879 --> 01:56:44,800
been a huge help with the rv

3182
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:45,115
park because they've been

3183
01:56:45,115 --> 01:56:46,782
assisting us in helping get that

3184
01:56:46,782 --> 01:56:48,418
up and running.

3185
01:56:48,418 --> 01:56:49,252
Susan has been great.

3186
01:56:49,252 --> 01:56:52,823
She's new to brian's team and

3187
01:56:52,823 --> 01:56:53,557
brian has been awesome as well

3188
01:56:53,557 --> 01:56:56,259
and as a matter of fact we have

3189
01:56:56,259 --> 01:56:57,394
trash cannes and brian came and

3190
01:56:57,394 --> 01:56:58,962
got trash cans from his office

3191
01:56:58,962 --> 01:57:00,964
and brought it out to the rv

3192
01:57:00,964 --> 01:57:03,964
park and the bathrooms there.

3193
01:57:05,502 --> 01:57:07,604
I want to publicly them for will

3194
01:57:07,604 --> 01:57:08,405
them and getting it to be the

3195
01:57:08,405 --> 01:57:09,873
best it can be.

3196
01:57:09,873 --> 01:57:11,842
Wore fortunate the commission

3197
01:57:11,842 --> 01:57:13,477
chose to move forward with some

3198
01:57:13,477 --> 01:57:13,777
projects and we're excite beside

3199
01:57:13,777 --> 01:57:15,112
that.

3200
01:57:15,112 --> 01:57:16,680
with people like this on our

3201
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:17,748
team, I think there's nothing we

3202
01:57:17,748 --> 01:57:19,415
can't accomplish out there or

3203
01:57:19,415 --> 01:57:20,584
anywhere else in the county

3204
01:57:20,584 --> 01:57:22,984
because they've cup a

3205
01:57:24,622 --> 01:57:26,900
done a

3206
01:57:26,900 --> 01:57:28,900
phenomenal job.

3207
01:57:28,192 --> 01:57:30,592
>> Chair Davis: come up.

3208
01:57:31,395 --> 01:57:32,162
Each of y'all, we welcome you to

3209
01:57:32,162 --> 01:57:33,300
make a comment.

3210
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:37,230
You can jab at the boss and

3211
01:57:39,937 --> 01:57:41,539
we'll be back up.

3212
01:57:41,539 --> 01:57:43,939
>> I just female blessed

3213
01:57:44,675 --> 01:57:45,430
feel blessed and

3214
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:47,430
thankful.

3215
01:57:47,245 --> 01:57:48,112
I'm proud I'm part of the

3216
01:57:48,112 --> 01:57:48,513
department and baldwin county

3217
01:57:48,513 --> 01:57:50,513
commission.

3218
01:57:50,882 --> 01:57:52,650
I believe that with great

3219
01:57:52,650 --> 01:57:54,618
leadership, good camaraderie and

3220
01:57:54,618 --> 01:57:54,722
all your peer and keeping high

3221
01:57:54,722 --> 01:57:56,722
-

3222
01:57:57,255 --> 01:57:58,790
moral within your team is the

3223
01:57:58,790 --> 01:57:59,290
key to efficient and great

3224
01:57:59,290 --> 01:58:01,290
workman ships.

3225
01:58:02,661 --> 01:58:04,229
That's why we produce this great

3226
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:06,629
apps that help people.

3227
01:58:07,399 --> 01:58:10,836
I'm just very grateful I'm given

3228
01:58:10,836 --> 01:58:11,168
the opportunity to serve baldwin

3229
01:58:11,168 --> 01:58:12,237
county.

3230
01:58:12,237 --> 01:58:14,237
Under good leadership.

3231
01:58:14,473 --> 01:58:15,207
You guys and brian.

3232
01:58:15,207 --> 01:58:16,274
>> thank you.

3233
01:58:16,274 --> 01:58:18,674
>> Chair Davis: well said.

3234
01:58:18,944 --> 01:58:20,944
>> who is ext.

3235
01:58:26,510 --> 01:58:27,319
>> I just want to say thank you.

3236
01:58:27,319 --> 01:58:28,200
I'm thankful to be a part of

3237
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:30,200
team cis.

3238
01:58:31,290 --> 01:58:33,290
>> thank you.

3239
01:58:35,270 --> 01:58:35,393
>> I would like to thank

3240
01:58:35,393 --> 01:58:36,662
everybody.

3241
01:58:36,662 --> 01:58:39,620
Special will he my

3242
01:58:39,865 --> 01:58:41,433
especially my director and

3243
01:58:41,433 --> 01:58:41,767
manager for getting me on this

3244
01:58:41,767 --> 01:58:43,767
project.

3245
01:58:46,939 --> 01:58:49,208
I would like to thank you all.

3246
01:58:49,208 --> 01:58:50,142
>> thank you.

3247
01:58:50,142 --> 01:58:50,543
>> Chair Davis: all right, boss.

3248
01:58:50,543 --> 01:58:52,543
Talk to us.

3249
01:58:53,246 --> 01:58:56,215
>> what more is there to say.

3250
01:58:56,215 --> 01:58:57,160
this epresents three of a

3251
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:58,484
fantastic team.

3252
01:58:58,484 --> 01:59:00,253
They're all looking to make

3253
01:59:00,253 --> 01:59:00,852
things better in everything they

3254
01:59:00,852 --> 01:59:02,388
put their hands on.

3255
01:59:02,388 --> 01:59:04,788
With every project we're

3256
01:59:06,626 --> 01:59:07,260
assigned and every quarter that

3257
01:59:07,260 --> 01:59:08,561
we have flowed through our

3258
01:59:08,561 --> 01:59:10,263
department, they do their best.

3259
01:59:10,263 --> 01:59:12,632
I couldn't be more proud to work

3260
01:59:12,632 --> 01:59:14,801
side by side with them on

3261
01:59:14,801 --> 01:59:15,601
everything we do.

3262
01:59:15,601 --> 01:59:17,404
>> Chair Davis: I think it goes

3263
01:59:17,404 --> 01:59:19,105
without saying too, if there's

3264
01:59:19,105 --> 01:59:19,939
ever a department that is

3265
01:59:19,939 --> 01:59:22,339
subject to things changing

3266
01:59:22,408 --> 01:59:25,408
almost daily or weekly or

3267
01:59:25,579 --> 01:59:27,146
monthly or certainly in annan an

3268
01:59:27,146 --> 01:59:28,582
annual term, it's y'all's area

3269
01:59:28,582 --> 01:59:30,183
and to jump in there and look

3270
01:59:30,183 --> 01:59:31,450
for the best way to do it, I

3271
01:59:31,450 --> 01:59:33,720
have two more phones that I know

3272
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:35,489
how to operate.

3273
01:59:35,489 --> 01:59:39,890
Knowing that we have got y'all

3274
01:59:39,585 --> 01:59:42,496
handling things for us, the

3275
01:59:42,496 --> 01:59:42,796
citizens, know that handled

3276
01:59:42,796 --> 01:59:44,197
well.

3277
01:59:44,197 --> 01:59:46,566
You are a group of doers and I

3278
01:59:46,566 --> 01:59:49,169
think baldwin county is made up

3279
01:59:49,169 --> 01:59:50,337
of staff and volunteers that are

3280
01:59:50,337 --> 01:59:52,740
doers, it's not about credit and

3281
01:59:52,740 --> 01:59:54,173
all that kind of stuff, r

3282
01:59:54,173 --> 01:59:56,900
blame, it's about being doer and

3283
01:59:56,900 --> 01:59:56,543
we want to tell you how much we

3284
01:59:56,543 --> 01:59:57,711
appreciate you.

3285
01:59:57,711 --> 02:00:00,111
Thank you, ery much.

3286
02:00:02,349 --> 02:00:04,180
>> thank you, all.

3287
02:00:04,180 --> 02:00:07,221
>> I just want to extend off

3288
02:00:07,221 --> 02:00:08,422
that and brian, when we were

3289
02:00:08,422 --> 02:00:10,458
struggle ing where we were going

3290
02:00:10,458 --> 02:00:11,859
to go next with live oak, you

3291
02:00:11,859 --> 02:00:14,529
pretty much stepped up and said

3292
02:00:14,529 --> 02:00:16,929
I can do it.

3293
02:00:17,264 --> 02:00:18,700
With you and wayne's

3294
02:00:18,700 --> 02:00:20,334
partnership, and doing some

3295
02:00:20,334 --> 02:00:21,736
restaffing and ome row

3296
02:00:21,736 --> 02:00:22,903
regrouping

3297
02:00:22,903 --> 02:00:26,600
out there, I look forward to

3298
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:26,708
that being one of the biggest

3299
02:00:26,708 --> 02:00:28,420
and greatest things for north

3300
02:00:28,420 --> 02:00:29,770
baldwin county and this whole

3301
02:00:29,770 --> 02:00:31,770
entire county.

3302
02:00:32,413 --> 02:00:34,140
Based on the ease of services,

3303
02:00:34,140 --> 02:00:36,551
and the convenience of what

3304
02:00:36,551 --> 02:00:39,200
you've made this, we're going to

3305
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:40,889
be over booked.

3306
02:00:40,889 --> 02:00:42,691
That's my hope.

3307
02:00:42,691 --> 02:00:45,393
I'm looking forward to great

3308
02:00:45,393 --> 02:00:46,428
things to come to live oak and

3309
02:00:46,428 --> 02:00:48,629
thank you for your leadership

3310
02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:51,399
and making this basically dream

3311
02:00:51,399 --> 02:00:54,399
become a reality because it's

3312
02:00:54,403 --> 02:00:55,418
been a long time coming for

3313
02:00:55,418 --> 02:00:55,636
this.

3314
02:00:55,636 --> 02:00:57,636
Thank ou.

3315
02:01:10,119 --> 02:01:12,119
>> thank you, wayne.

3316
02:01:13,923 --> 02:01:15,491
>> I visited your definitely,

3317
02:01:15,491 --> 02:01:17,359
wore interested if you go this

3318
02:01:17,359 --> 02:01:19,759
direction, with letting the

3319
02:01:20,796 --> 02:01:22,197
county manage it, look what

3320
02:01:22,197 --> 02:01:24,100
we've done.

3321
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:24,433
I was like, you are almost ready

3322
02:01:24,433 --> 02:01:26,433
already.

3323
02:01:26,868 --> 02:01:27,970
I take it that y'all really

3324
02:01:27,970 --> 02:01:28,771
wanted to see and have the

3325
02:01:28,771 --> 02:01:30,105
opportunity and I remember

3326
02:01:30,105 --> 02:01:32,174
saying just give me a chance and

3327
02:01:32,174 --> 02:01:33,243
we can o this and I was like

3328
02:01:33,243 --> 02:01:34,544
well, I'm still doing research

3329
02:01:34,544 --> 02:01:36,944
to determine what direction.

3330
02:01:37,113 --> 02:01:38,681
It was like, you guys wanted to

3331
02:01:38,681 --> 02:01:40,316
do this so much and it was like,

3332
02:01:40,316 --> 02:01:42,352
it shows and how it's working so

3333
02:01:42,352 --> 02:01:43,686
well and so I really appreciate

3334
02:01:43,686 --> 02:01:45,555
that because it's not good to be

3335
02:01:45,555 --> 02:01:46,856
given a task that you don't

3336
02:01:46,856 --> 02:01:49,225
really believe in either so it's

3337
02:01:49,225 --> 02:01:50,326
t sounds like you believe in

3338
02:01:50,326 --> 02:01:51,693
this task and your work shows

3339
02:01:51,693 --> 02:01:53,563
and thank you for the apps.

3340
02:01:53,563 --> 02:01:56,433
I know when I first got elected,

3341
02:01:56,433 --> 02:01:58,635
I really wanted an app and so

3342
02:01:58,635 --> 02:02:01,137
did the rest of them.

3343
02:02:01,137 --> 02:02:03,572
Not only have I got one I have a

3344
02:02:03,572 --> 02:02:05,342
whole folder of baldwin county

3345
02:02:05,342 --> 02:02:06,743
apps and it's just good.

3346
02:02:06,743 --> 02:02:09,946
I don't get to see you guys as

3347
02:02:09,946 --> 02:02:11,581
much as I do brian.

3348
02:02:11,581 --> 02:02:14,184
You help us so uch.

3349
02:02:14,184 --> 02:02:15,653
I know it's not just me.

3350
02:02:15,653 --> 02:02:17,120
hopefully I'm not the only one

3351
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:17,653
that bugs y'all.

3352
02:02:17,653 --> 02:02:19,590
If I am I am sorry.

3353
02:02:19,590 --> 02:02:21,910
Thank you so much for

3354
02:02:21,910 --> 02:02:22,892
everything.

3355
02:02:22,892 --> 02:02:26,764
Shirley joe he has two phones he

3356
02:02:26,764 --> 02:02:27,598
do know how to use he says.

3357
02:02:27,598 --> 02:02:29,333
I'm not the only one.

3358
02:02:29,333 --> 02:02:30,133
You've come to my rescue.

3359
02:02:30,133 --> 02:02:33,133
Brian is our contact person.

3360
02:02:35,673 --> 02:02:36,440
I know that you are the wind

3361
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,440
beneath his wings.

3362
02:02:39,143 --> 02:02:41,679
>> thank you all very much.

3363
02:02:41,679 --> 02:02:45,279
Creating an app as think it's

3364
02:02:46,384 --> 02:02:48,119
put a lot of time and energy

3365
02:02:48,119 --> 02:02:48,820
into uilding that app for the

3366
02:02:48,820 --> 02:02:50,820
live oak.

3367
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,688
Not only that but several other

3368
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:58,763
ones that you have developed.

3369
02:02:58,763 --> 02:03:02,867
It's great to have a team that

3370
02:03:02,867 --> 02:03:03,434
can do that without us centering centering

3371
02:03:03,434 --> 02:03:05,434
go

3372
02:03:05,970 --> 02:03:07,970
centeringgo out

3373
02:03:10,341 --> 02:03:12,943
-- it'shomegrown and it makes

3374
02:03:12,943 --> 02:03:13,278
makes it

3375
02:03:13,278 --> 02:03:15,278
special.

3376
02:03:16,381 --> 02:03:17,649
Thank you for what you do.

3377
02:03:17,649 --> 02:03:21,860
>> and I'm sure that you will

3378
02:03:21,860 --> 02:03:22,220
have projects that we don't know

3379
02:03:22,220 --> 02:03:23,254
about yet.

3380
02:03:23,254 --> 02:03:23,788
We May have problems we node

3381
02:03:23,788 --> 02:03:25,323
help with.

3382
02:03:25,323 --> 02:03:26,910
Thank you for being a great part

3383
02:03:26,910 --> 02:03:28,910
of the team.

3384
02:03:29,861 --> 02:03:30,528
All of you.

3385
02:03:30,528 --> 02:03:32,970
Thank you.

3386
02:03:32,970 --> 02:03:33,598
>> that's all I have next is the

3387
02:03:33,598 --> 02:03:34,133
county attorney's report.

3388
02:03:34,133 --> 02:03:36,133
>> all right.

3389
02:03:37,690 --> 02:03:37,970
>> there's no report.

3390
02:03:37,970 --> 02:03:38,671
>>

3391
02:03:38,671 --> 02:03:39,136
>> Chair Davis: all right.

3392
02:03:39,136 --> 02:03:40,172
Public comments.

3393
02:03:40,172 --> 02:03:43,108
Do we have anyone from the

3394
02:03:43,108 --> 02:03:44,777
public that has been able to

3395
02:03:44,777 --> 02:03:45,311
stay here until 12:10.

3396
02:03:45,311 --> 02:03:46,579
We don't.

3397
02:03:46,579 --> 02:03:47,846
What about the press?

3398
02:03:47,846 --> 02:03:51,446
I don't believe I see anybody

3399
02:03:52,184 --> 02:03:52,785
from the press here.

3400
02:03:52,785 --> 02:03:54,785
commission comments.

3401
02:03:56,422 --> 02:04:00,622
>> I'd like to start off with we

3402
02:04:02,894 --> 02:04:06,494
have another one of ur people

3403
02:04:09,534 --> 02:04:12,534
that served ur community, frank

3404
02:04:15,674 --> 02:04:17,343
served on the baldwin county

3405
02:04:17,343 --> 02:04:19,120
water district 4 and he passed

3406
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,120
away yesterday afternoon.

3407
02:04:21,980 --> 02:04:24,584
He was also an educator for

3408
02:04:24,584 --> 02:04:24,917
many, many years with the school

3409
02:04:24,917 --> 02:04:26,917
system.

3410
02:04:27,654 --> 02:04:28,688
He was a great mentor for a lot

3411
02:04:28,688 --> 02:04:30,688
of kids.

3412
02:04:31,191 --> 02:04:31,524
And he is definitely going to be

3413
02:04:31,524 --> 02:04:33,524
missed.

3414
02:04:40,133 --> 02:04:41,668
He is on several boards.

3415
02:04:41,668 --> 02:04:45,380
He would do anything co and he

3416
02:04:45,380 --> 02:04:46,730
will be missed on what to send

3417
02:04:46,730 --> 02:04:49,673
my could be dollances to his

3418
02:04:57,651 --> 02:04:58,385
family and loved ones.

3419
02:04:58,385 --> 02:04:59,753
>> Chair Davis: billie joe.

3420
02:04:59,753 --> 02:05:01,455
>> I want to thank everybody.

3421
02:05:01,455 --> 02:05:02,489
Wore still struggling through

3422
02:05:02,489 --> 02:05:05,226
all the things that's going on.

3423
02:05:05,226 --> 02:05:08,195
I feel like that we're -- it's

3424
02:05:08,195 --> 02:05:08,896
the beginning of the ending of

3425
02:05:08,896 --> 02:05:10,896
all of this.

3426
02:05:11,265 --> 02:05:13,340
When it comes to the covid and

3427
02:05:13,340 --> 02:05:14,234
all that, I'm hoping we'll start

3428
02:05:14,234 --> 02:05:14,969
seeing ome of that light at the

3429
02:05:14,969 --> 02:05:16,503
end of the tunnel.

3430
02:05:16,503 --> 02:05:17,338
Thank you, staff for all you do

3431
02:05:17,338 --> 02:05:19,338
for us.

3432
02:05:20,410 --> 02:05:23,641
Thank you my colleagues for what

3433
02:05:24,450 --> 02:05:25,813
y'all do too.

3434
02:05:25,813 --> 02:05:27,715
>> I'm just as well as another

3435
02:05:27,715 --> 02:05:28,649
two, I'm thankful for hat the

3436
02:05:28,649 --> 02:05:30,551
staff does.

3437
02:05:30,551 --> 02:05:30,885
Everybody from the top to the

3438
02:05:30,885 --> 02:05:32,860
bottom.

3439
02:05:32,860 --> 02:05:32,619
I appreciate everything that

3440
02:05:32,619 --> 02:05:34,619
they do.

3441
02:05:34,622 --> 02:05:37,570
It's great to see that our

3442
02:05:37,570 --> 02:05:37,725
highway and engineers back and

3443
02:05:37,725 --> 02:05:39,725
in spite of

3444
02:05:40,995 --> 02:05:42,497
in spite of all his tragedy and

3445
02:05:42,497 --> 02:05:44,865
yet he is still going through

3446
02:05:44,865 --> 02:05:47,401
them and shows up for work.

3447
02:05:47,401 --> 02:05:49,571
It just goes to show you what we

3448
02:05:49,571 --> 02:05:51,173
have working for us and the

3449
02:05:51,173 --> 02:05:54,675
caliber of people who we get to

3450
02:05:54,675 --> 02:05:57,675
work ith every single day.

3451
02:05:59,447 --> 02:06:01,817
It's not that we get to work

3452
02:06:01,817 --> 02:06:02,817
through these people and it's a

3453
02:06:02,817 --> 02:06:05,217
humbling experience and great

3454
02:06:05,254 --> 02:06:07,756
honor to be up here today.

3455
02:06:07,756 --> 02:06:09,324
I just enjoy every inute of

3456
02:06:09,324 --> 02:06:11,760
this job and working with each

3457
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:12,995
of y'all up here on this stage

3458
02:06:12,995 --> 02:06:13,562
as well as all the people down

3459
02:06:13,562 --> 02:06:15,562
there.

3460
02:06:20,903 --> 02:06:21,704
I thank you.

3461
02:06:21,704 --> 02:06:23,639
>> Chair Davis: obviously, thank

3462
02:06:23,639 --> 02:06:24,940
you sounds hollow but it's not.

3463
02:06:24,940 --> 02:06:27,343
We've all aid it and every one

3464
02:06:27,343 --> 02:06:28,210
of you in this rom and those

3465
02:06:28,210 --> 02:06:31,810
that aren't here that are part

3466
02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:35,118
of the team, we are a good team

3467
02:06:35,118 --> 02:06:39,318
and we don't want y'all to think

3468
02:06:39,455 --> 02:06:40,723
when it's over we go prancing

3469
02:06:40,723 --> 02:06:44,323
home and we have other meetings

3470
02:06:46,629 --> 02:06:48,197
wore going to be meeting with

3471
02:06:48,197 --> 02:06:51,197
members at 1:30 and talk about

3472
02:06:52,168 --> 02:06:53,369
broadband at 3:00 so know while

3473
02:06:53,369 --> 02:06:54,637
you are working hard to make

3474
02:06:54,637 --> 02:06:56,390
sure things happen the way they

3475
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:57,507
need to happen in your

3476
02:06:57,507 --> 02:06:59,876
department, wore also aggressive

3477
02:06:59,876 --> 02:07:00,810
about getting bots on the ground

3478
02:07:00,810 --> 02:07:02,946
and getting information and

3479
02:07:02,946 --> 02:07:04,280
getting around the table to talk

3480
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:07,651
about things that will make a

3481
02:07:07,651 --> 02:07:09,486
difference in all our lives.

3482
02:07:09,486 --> 02:07:12,155
So, wayne, thank you to you and

3483
02:07:12,155 --> 02:07:14,155
all the staff.

3484
02:07:14,623 --> 02:07:17,928
Let's do, he stepped out but

3485
02:07:17,928 --> 02:07:18,962
let's do keep joey nunnally in

3486
02:07:18,962 --> 02:07:20,764
our minds and hearts because of

3487
02:07:20,764 --> 02:07:22,665
sort of things this have

3488
02:07:22,665 --> 02:07:23,867
happened in his personal family

3489
02:07:23,867 --> 02:07:25,350
connections, are taxing.

3490
02:07:25,350 --> 02:07:27,404
Wove all been through it.

3491
02:07:27,404 --> 02:07:28,338
We'll all have it to do it at

3492
02:07:28,338 --> 02:07:30,338
various times.

3493
02:07:30,407 --> 02:07:33,577
We need to be mindful and not

3494
02:07:33,577 --> 02:07:35,846
only is he handling that, as a

3495
02:07:35,846 --> 02:07:38,249
good son, would handle it, but

3496
02:07:38,249 --> 02:07:40,284
he is also handling his job.

3497
02:07:40,284 --> 02:07:41,584
It takes all of us pulling

3498
02:07:41,584 --> 02:07:42,953
together so when you get a

3499
02:07:42,953 --> 02:07:45,656
chance, give him a little pat on

3500
02:07:45,656 --> 02:07:48,125
the shoulder or a little at a

3501
02:07:48,125 --> 02:07:48,458
boy or at a girl because it

3502
02:07:48,458 --> 02:07:49,894
matters.

3503
02:07:49,894 --> 02:07:53,494
And that's what makes us unique.

3504
02:07:53,597 --> 02:07:53,931
This is eye county that is

3505
02:07:53,931 --> 02:07:55,465
unique.

3506
02:07:55,465 --> 02:07:56,968
We do have to apologize, we're

3507
02:07:56,968 --> 02:07:59,968
not any better than anybody.

3508
02:08:00,710 --> 02:08:02,774
We're as good as everybody.

3509
02:08:02,774 --> 02:08:04,943
And it's because you people make

3510
02:08:04,943 --> 02:08:07,943
things happen and I'm tickled

3511
02:08:08,379 --> 02:08:08,680
and honors to be a small art of

3512
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:09,747
that.

3513
02:08:09,747 --> 02:08:10,882
Let's get about our business and

3514
02:08:10,882 --> 02:08:13,510
we'll meet again, is that right.

3515
02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:14,519
>> I make a motion we adjourn.

3516
02:08:14,519 --> 02:08:16,654
>> before that, is there anyway

3517
02:08:16,654 --> 02:08:19,424
we can get a meeting set up with

3518
02:08:19,424 --> 02:08:19,833
our legislate to

3519
02:08:19,833 --> 02:08:21,833
to

3520
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,960
legislature to talk about

3521
02:08:25,196 --> 02:08:26,364
bills up there in montgomery to

3522
02:08:26,364 --> 02:08:27,899
discuss some of those things.

3523
02:08:27,899 --> 02:08:29,534
If we can set that up somehow.

3524
02:08:29,534 --> 02:08:30,836
>> we need to get with martin

3525
02:08:30,836 --> 02:08:31,536
and he can probably et that up.

3526
02:08:31,536 --> 02:08:32,971
>> yeah.

3527
02:08:32,971 --> 02:08:34,706
>> martin christie would be able

3528
02:08:34,706 --> 02:08:36,141
to set that up for us.

3529
02:08:36,141 --> 02:08:36,507
>> martin christie would be a

3530
02:08:36,507 --> 02:08:37,943
good one.

3531
02:08:37,943 --> 02:08:39,244
>> like to set up some of these

3532
02:08:39,244 --> 02:08:40,512
bills that are there up and I

3533
02:08:40,512 --> 02:08:40,813
got some questions on them, you

3534
02:08:40,813 --> 02:08:41,680
know.

3535
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:43,680
>> oh, sure,.

3536
02:08:43,815 --> 02:08:44,983
>> if you are phone has been

3537
02:08:44,983 --> 02:08:46,785
lighting up like mine and people

3538
02:08:46,785 --> 02:08:47,850
on both sides of the topic as

3539
02:08:47,850 --> 02:08:47,585
well.

3540
02:08:47,585 --> 02:08:48,620
>> ok.

3541
02:08:48,620 --> 02:08:50,322
>> if we can do that.

3542
02:08:50,322 --> 02:08:51,590
>> we'll be glad to work on that

3543
02:08:51,590 --> 02:08:51,857
and we'll do it as quickly as we

3544
02:08:51,857 --> 02:08:53,857
can.

3545
02:08:54,426 --> 02:08:55,627
>> I would suggest reaching out

3546
02:08:55,627 --> 02:08:58,197
to cliff Mccullough as well

3547
02:08:58,197 --> 02:08:59,865
because it's a matter of

3548
02:08:59,865 --> 02:09:00,364
scheduling where we are and who

3549
02:09:00,364 --> 02:09:02,134
we are and.

3550
02:09:02,134 --> 02:09:04,703
>> they're in session now, so e.

3551
02:09:04,703 --> 02:09:05,571
Yeah, it's going to be tough.

3552
02:09:05,571 --> 02:09:06,905
It May have to be until the they

3553
02:09:06,905 --> 02:09:07,807
get out of session but they're

3554
02:09:07,807 --> 02:09:09,575
in session right now.

3555
02:09:09,575 --> 02:09:11,510
>> but, again, thursday evening

3556
02:09:11,510 --> 02:09:13,413
and friday, kind of meeting

3557
02:09:13,413 --> 02:09:14,347
might be able to occur but, I

3558
02:09:14,347 --> 02:09:16,347
grow with

3559
02:09:18,117 --> 02:09:21,154
agree with skip, we have things

3560
02:09:21,154 --> 02:09:22,587
we need a voice in and the

3561
02:09:22,587 --> 02:09:25,391
sooner we can express our

3562
02:09:25,391 --> 02:09:25,858
thoughts, the better we can move

3563
02:09:25,858 --> 02:09:26,926
things forward.

3564
02:09:26,926 --> 02:09:28,194
>> there's a motion on the table

3565
02:09:28,194 --> 02:09:28,962
to adjourn.

3566
02:09:28,962 --> 02:09:30,696
>> Chair Davis: yes, we have a

3567
02:09:30,696 --> 02:09:34,296
motion, do we have a second.

3568
02:09:34,792 --> 02:09:34,894
>> I'll second.

3569
02:09:34,894 --> 02:09:34,996
>> Chair Davis: we have a motion

3570
02:09:34,996 --> 02:09:35,735
and a second.

3571
02:09:35,735 --> 02:09:36,100
All in favor signify by saying

3572
02:09:36,100 --> 02:09:36,269
aye.

3573
02:09:36,269 --> 02:09:37,670
Aye.

3574
02:09:37,670 --> 02:09:41,270
>> we're out of here, thank you.