[0:11] He is going to give us our
[0:12] invocation and commissioner ball
[0:14] will lead us in the pledge of
[0:14] allegiance.
[0:17] If you would, please all stands.
[0:19] >> it's an honedder and
[0:20] privilege to be here ith you
[0:21] all this morning.
[0:23] It is good to give thanks to our
[0:24] lord.
[0:25] Let us pray.
[0:28] Good morning, dear lord.
[0:30] It's gratitude we gather this
[0:33] morning in your presence seeking
[0:34] your wisdom, seeking your
[0:36] understanding and your patients
[0:38] as deliberations are held and
[0:39] choices are made.
[0:42] And we reminded that we hold the
[0:43] unique position of leadership
[0:45] for which we do not take for
[0:47] granted but in all humility use
[0:49] and service o lift up all
[0:49] people.
[0:51] We ask you to guide us this day
[0:53] and May we find comfort and
[0:54] strength to your steadfast love
[0:56] and commitment to us and we ask
[0:58] you to bless all present here
[0:59] this morning.
[1:02] In your son's heavenly name,
[1:03] amen.
[1:04] >> please join me for the pledge
[1:05] of allegiance.
[1:07] >> I pledge the allegiance to
[1:10] the flag of the united states of
[1:11] america and to the republic for
[1:14] which it stands, one nation,
[1:16] under God, indivisible with
[1:21] liberty and justice for all.
[1:23] >> thank you.
[1:48] >> the first is the adoption of
[1:50] the minutes from the regular
[1:50] meeting.
[1:52] >> I make a motion.
[1:53] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion
[1:54] many
[1:57] motion, is there a second.
[2:01] Hearing none, all a
[2:02] approved by
[2:02] saying aye.
[2:04] >> next are the administration
[2:04] items.
[2:07] We have ba-1 through ba-3.
[2:09] Staff recommends approval of
[2:09] those items.
[2:10] >> so moved.
[2:11] >> second.
[2:11] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion
[2:15] and a second for items ba-1
[2:15] through 3.
[2:17] Any discussion or comments?
[2:18] Hearing none.
[2:21] I'll approve by saying aye.
[2:21] Aye.
[2:23] It's unanimous.
[2:26] >> next is archives and history.
[2:28] Bc-1 and bc-2.
[2:29] >> so moved.
[2:30] >> Chair Davis: we have a
[2:30] motion.
[2:31] >> second.
[2:32] >> motion and a second.
[2:34] Any discussion on these items?
[2:35] Hearing none.
[2:37] All in favor signify by saying
[2:38] aye.
[2:38] Aye.
[2:39] It's unanimous.
[2:42] >> next we have the baldwin
[2:43] regional area transit system.
[2:46] Two items, bb-1 and bb-2.
[2:48] Staff recommends approval of
[2:49] those two items.
[2:51] >> I'm trying to give
[2:53] commissioner gruber a chance.
[2:54] So moved.
[2:56] >> Chair Davis: we got a motion.
[2:59] Skip is going to second it.
[3:00] >> I'll second it.
[3:06] All in favor ay aye.
[3:07] Aye.
[3:08] Next is budget and purchasing.
[3:11] We have seven items, be-1
[3:14] through be7.
[3:15] Staff recommends approval.
[3:17] >> I make a motion e approve.
[3:18] >> Chair Davis: we have a
[3:18] motion.
[3:19] >> second.
[3:22] >> Chair Davis: and a second.
[3:23] Any discussion?
[3:24] About what we're laughing about
[3:25] is the chair cannot make a
[3:27] motion or a second.
[3:30] Everybody gets to try to jump in
[3:31] and y'all heard and please
[3:33] understand for our audience here
[3:37] particularly our young people,
[3:38] they have been vetted by our
[3:39] department heads and we've been
[3:42] brought in on various points of
[3:42] those.
[3:45] We're not rubber stamping
[3:46] anything, we're just moving
[3:47] things that are outine.
[3:48] Any discussion further on these
[3:50] if not, all in favor signify by
[3:52] saying aye.
[3:53] Aye.
[3:56] It's unanimous.
[4:02] >> we have bl-1.
[4:03] Staff recommends approval.
[4:04] >> Chair Davis: I got a motion
[4:06] and a second on environmental
[4:06] items.
[4:10] All in favor say aye.
[4:12] Aye.
[4:14] >> next we have 16 items for our
[4:15] how department.
[4:18] Staff recommends approval of
[4:19] those 16 items.
[4:21] >> I make a motion we approve.
[4:22] >> 2:00.
[4:23] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion
[4:24] and a second dealing with our
[4:25] highway item.
[4:27] Any further discussion?
[4:27] Hearing none.
[4:30] All in favor signify by saying
[4:31] aye.
[4:32] Aye.
[4:33] Unanimous.
[4:34] >> next we have seven items
[4:36] in-person he will.
[4:40] Bq-1 to bq-7, staff ecommends
[4:41] approval.
[4:43] >> I make a motion we approve
[4:46] be-1 through be-7.
[4:49] >> all right.
[4:52] >> that's bq-1 through q7.
[4:53] >> do we have a motion and a
[4:54] second.
[4:54] >> second.
[4:55] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion
[4:56] and a second.
[4:57] Any discussion?
[4:58] Hearing none, all in favor
[5:01] signify by saying aye.
[5:03] Aye.
[5:04] >> we have one tem that we
[5:05] discussed in the ork session
[5:07] and we'll bring it back to the
[5:09] regular eetings so no action is
[5:11] necessary on br-1.
[5:12] >> Chair Davis: all right.
[5:13] >> it brings us to presentation
[5:15] and we have a presentation under
[5:16] ca-1 which is the highway
[5:19] department fiscal year 2020
[5:21] year-end progress report.
[5:22] I believe Mr. Nunley is in the
[5:24] audience to present this
[5:27] presentation to he commission.
[5:29] >> thank you.
[5:30] >> thank you.
[5:31] So, obviously this is going to
[5:33] be our year-end presentation and
[5:36] of course, when we say year-end
[5:36] we're talking about up through
[5:39] the end of September of 2020
[5:40] because our ears run on
[5:42] physical years, which mean our
[5:43] budget years.
[5:47] So, we'll go ahead and get
[5:48] started.
[5:52] Our major goals in 2020 was to
[5:53] plan, construct, maintain roads,
[6:00] bridges and parks for the safe,
[6:02] efficient
[6:07] parks for the safetyand efficiently.
[6:08] It's shown the difference of
[6:15] what this county has gone from
[6:15] 2005 to 2020.
[6:18] Our miles of roads have
[6:20] increased and our bridges have
[6:24] increased dramatically.
[6:26] So this slide basically shows
[6:28] how our budget is formed and
[6:30] where the different funds come
[6:30] from.
[6:33] You can see 46% of our funds
[6:36] comes from gas-tax and 47% comes
[6:37] from intergovernmental which is
[6:41] the majority of that will be an
[6:42] ad valorem tax.
[6:44] The 5% is coming from fund
[6:45] balance which is basically just
[6:47] under runs of different projects
[6:49] from the previous year and other
[6:50] revenues going to be things like
[6:52] taxes and fees and stuff so it's
[6:56] a very small percentage.
[6:59] This slide shows a little bit of
[7:01] what the effect of covid had on
[7:03] us in 2020.
[7:08] Obviously we work off budgeted
[7:10] and when we schedule all our
[7:12] projects we're working budgeted
[7:13] funds and the actual funds
[7:15] collected throughout the year is
[7:16] what we have to actually spend
[7:19] and you can say the gas-tax that
[7:21] came n about seven cents below
[7:29] what was projected, the add va
[7:32] lorum was lower and the vehicle
[7:34] registration or gas-tax, six
[7:37] cents gas-tax and it came, the
[7:39] four cents came in low and the
[7:44] others came in about right.
[7:47] The six cents gas-tax is that
[7:49] rebuild alabama gas-tax act.
[7:50] We have a lot of discussion in
[7:52] the work session about grants.
[7:54] We're hopefully fixing to hire a
[7:56] grants coordinator.
[7:57] These are the different grants
[7:58] the highway department works
[7:58] with.
[8:01] There's quite a few of them.
[8:05] We got our eyes open for the
[8:06] different funding avenues.
[8:09] The first one is going to be
[8:10] restore, the second one is our
[8:12] federal aid or federal aid
[8:14] exchange fund and all these are
[8:15] going by acronyms.
[8:17] We have a tap or transportation
[8:20] alternative, the aid is
[8:23] accelerated innovative
[8:24] development.
[8:28] The a-trip project, go mesa,
[8:34] hsip, ewp, and we have the
[8:38] alabama-florida M.P.O., the
[8:39] craft fund, emergency repairs
[8:41] which are E.R. Funds and of
[8:43] course we have fema.
[8:45] How do grants work?
[8:48] If a project cost a million
[8:49] dollars, the grand that
[8:50] particular grants is going to
[8:53] fund about 80% and it will fund
[8:55] 800,000 and the county has to
[8:58] pitch in the other 20% which
[9:00] would be about 200,000 for a
[9:04] total of the 1 million-dollar
[9:04] grant.
[9:07] So this shows how we divide
[9:10] those funds up and 41% and the
[9:13] projects not taking maintenance
[9:14] and 15 in engineering and admin
[9:17] and 25% in the capital
[9:18] expenditures.
[9:20] First we'll breakdown what our
[9:20] projects are.
[9:22] Just from a management
[9:24] standpoint, we breakdown our
[9:25] projects into the six or eight
[9:28] different types, resurfacing,
[9:29] dirt road paving projects,
[9:31] bridge projects, new road,
[9:35] safety improvements, and park
[9:37] improvements, drainage
[9:37] improvements.
[9:39] We set goals at the beginning of
[9:42] the year and we do our best to
[9:43] stay on those goals and meet
[9:44] what our goals were.
[9:49] At the beginning of 2020, we set
[9:53] our goal to resurface and we
[9:58] completed with that and
[10:00] 8.69 miles and it was 90%
[10:00] complete.
[10:02] This is just a map of showing
[10:07] where those resurfacing projects
[10:07] were.
[10:12] Just a few pictures of what
[10:22] we've done and this is ferry
[10:23] road.
[10:26] if if you notice in the
[10:26] top-left.
[10:28] The rebuild alabama was up there
[10:30] and it was any time the projects
[10:33] were funded by a grant, that we
[10:37] applied for and got.
[10:38] There's a tab showing you what
[10:42] grant that was and it was reboot
[10:45] and and got.
[10:49] The next goal was our dirt road
[10:49] paving projects.
[10:53] Our goal was to pave 13.55 miles
[10:57] and we had a few things going on
[11:00] with covid and hurricane sally
[11:08] so we were only able to complete
[11:09] 28 of our goals.
[11:13] There's a few rojects gap
[11:26] weekly and north county road 27
[11:29] juniper street north.
[11:33] Miller lane.
[11:36] Poser road.
[11:37] Brewer road.
[11:42] And this is just a schedule of
[11:44] roads that were either -- that
[11:45] we've start that haven't been
[11:46] completed.
[11:49] You could see ben der, royal,
[11:55] they were all started as of
[11:55] 10-1-20.
[11:56] A couple of those have been
[12:00] completed since that day and
[12:02] specifically hug bee and the
[12:03] others, kings landing have not
[12:08] been started yet.
[12:10] As far as bring projects go.
[12:12] It was to complete four bridge
[12:13] projects and to begin
[12:14] construction on two and we were
[12:17] able to complete three and begin
[12:19] construction on two so we're
[12:22] about 83% on that goal.
[12:23] Couple of pictures of the
[12:27] bridges is going to be county
[12:40] road 9.
[12:43] >> this is county road 9.
[12:44] This is fred douger road.
[12:48] That bridge is in progress right
[12:49] now and should be completed
[12:52] within another month, month and
[12:52] a half.
[12:56] and this one is he whole prior
[12:57] is over bushy creek east and
[12:58] this one is also under
[13:03] construction as we speak.
[13:06] Len home road was in progress at
[13:08] the end of 2020's physical year
[13:15] but it actually is complete now.
[13:24] The next two are going to be.
[13:26] This is county road 65 bridge
[13:30] over turkey branch.
[13:32] And dock mack duffy road bridge
[13:33] over wolf creek.
[13:34] Both of those bridges are
[13:36] included in this grant and we
[13:37] let them both, the projects have
[13:40] been awarded and the contractor
[13:44] should be started soon.
[13:45] New road construction.
[13:47] Our goal was to secure funding
[13:51] begin right away and the beach
[13:53] express 2, that was all part of
[13:55] the bill that ended up not
[13:57] passing the vote.
[14:00] We are now looking for different
[14:00] avs
[14:03] avenues for sources since the
[14:05] vote did not pass.
[14:07] Our safety improvement projects.
[14:10] Our goal was to complete three
[14:11] projects and complete
[14:14] construction on tonight we were two.
[14:15] One project was under
[14:29] construction and one in design.
[14:30] This was a guardrail project and
[14:32] this again was another grant
[14:36] that we put in for high-risk,
[14:37] rural roads.
[14:40] We call it the hrrr grant.
[14:42] We were successful in getting
[14:44] those funds and updated our
[14:44] guardrails.
[14:48] This was martin lane, we widened
[14:50] it out.
[14:53] County road 65 we put up a
[14:54] four-way stop.
[14:55] We are able to put up a signal
[14:57] at county road 28.
[15:02] This was a joint effort with
[15:03] multi agencies.
[15:11] Between us and ummerdale and
[15:11] aldot.
[15:13] This is a signal south side of
[15:14] fairhope and this was funded
[15:18] through the eastern shore M.P.O.
[15:20] As far as capacity improvements,
[15:22] the goal was to begin design on
[15:24] one project and we have one in
[15:28] design and it's county road 64
[15:29] widening projects and it's one
[15:32] we have in design and it's
[15:33] widening 64 to three lanes all
[15:40] the way from 181 down to
[15:46] monalucia way.
[15:49] We had one site complete and one
[15:50] site under construction and one
[15:56] site got postponed.
[15:57] Drainage improvement was this
[15:59] one on county road 1.
[16:01] The pond on fernwood drive,
[16:04] which was a huge regional
[16:05] detention pond that as of the
[16:06] end of the physical year, it was
[16:10] not omplete but it actually is
[16:13] complete now.
[16:15] Park improvement projects, the
[16:16] goal was to complete
[16:18] construction on four projects.
[16:21] And we did all four of those.
[16:23] Those projects included the
[16:26] property acquisition of the
[16:30] inter coastal waterway boast
[16:32] launch under design and should
[16:35] let out to construction.
[16:40] We replaced the boardwalk at
[16:42] morgan town.
[16:46] We put some bathrooms at the
[16:48] bicentennial park.
[16:50] And these bridges, these
[16:52] pedestrian bridges on the
[16:55] on the scenic
[16:56] 98, four or five were in bad
[17:00] need of repair and we ere able
[17:03] to repair fly creek, red gully,
[17:08] rock creek and this is over an
[17:09] unmarked bridge.
[17:12] So from the maintenance acility
[17:13] standpoint, again, this makes up
[17:16] about 19% of our budgets and our
[17:17] maintenance facilities are
[17:20] broken down into three years.
[17:20] 100 in the.
[17:26] >> heather: and 200 in thenorth and 200 in the
[17:27] south and traffic covers the
[17:31] whole county.
[17:33] Our goals are processed timely
[17:37] and to ensure annual by annual
[17:39] inspections are performed on all
[17:39] roadways.
[17:41] You can see it was a busy year.
[17:44] We received 2,839 work orders
[17:49] and we were able to complete
[17:50] 2,648 of those.
[17:58] We inspected 176 dirt roads and
[17:58] 1,381 paved roads.
[17:59] Our nighttime inspections are
[18:01] done every year so we did not do
[18:05] those this year.
[18:08] This is just a breakdown of the
[18:09] areas and how many paved and
[18:12] dirt miles are in each one of
[18:17] the areas.
[18:20] This is a graph showing all 161
[18:21] maintained bridges we have in
[18:22] the county.
[18:25] We have 15 of those 161 that are
[18:27] posted and only one of them
[18:34] closed on trail 17.
[18:36] As far as a summary of what we
[18:38] do in maintenance, this is
[18:40] good summary of the maintenance
[18:40] projects.
[18:42] We completed 38 in 2020.
[18:46] We did 264 traffic studies and
[18:48] processed 27afm petitions.
[18:50] Our herbicide truck, do you to
[18:51] losing our certified herbicide
[18:53] sprayer and problems with the
[18:54] truck we weren't able to spray
[18:56] roads but we're actively working
[18:59] on getting those corrected.
[19:02] We maintain traffic signals, 77
[19:04] traffic signals.
[19:09] And we were able to strap
[19:13] 606 miles of lanes and maintain
[19:13] 17,000 signs.
[19:18] So when a work order comes in,
[19:20] our administrative ssistance
[19:22] log it in as a problem reported.
[19:23] They generate work orders.
[19:26] And they track that work order
[19:27] all the way through its
[19:31] completion and we can report on
[19:32] that and send e-mails out to
[19:35] those following that particular
[19:36] work order.
[19:40] We had 2,309 and in area 100,
[19:42] they completed 102% of those
[19:44] work orders called in.
[19:45] Basically it means that they had
[19:47] a few leftover from last year.
[19:52] They were able to complete those
[19:54] this year.
[19:56] Area 200 completed 91-point 9%
[20:03] of those and then area 300 was
[20:05] 87 and a half.
[20:07] We have do have special
[20:08] projects, maintenance special
[20:09] projects.
[20:10] These are our sidewalks, our
[20:14] parking lots, our
[20:17] emergency-related activities and
[20:20] we do other municipalities and
[20:21] we report on those and this is a
[20:23] graph showing that what we did
[20:26] through out the county, these
[20:27] things just pop up all through
[20:29] the year depending on our
[20:29] different needs.
[20:32] Bay minette airport resurfacing,
[20:38] we helped them with that.
[20:42] We helped an elementary school.
[20:44] We did a sidewalk on county road
[20:45] 1 through a grant that was
[20:47] called the transportation
[20:47] alternative program or called
[20:52] the tap grant.
[20:53] And we're also helping the town
[20:59] of alberta out with brain age drainage
[21:02] improvement and we maintained
[21:04] 24.4 acres of wetlands at our
[21:08] wetland mitigation bank in gulf
[21:08] shores.
[21:11] We had a couple of ada projects
[21:13] we did a lot of ada improvements
[21:17] on our sidewalks.
[21:20] And obviously from an emergency
[21:21] standpoint we had hurricane
[21:24] sally so I ust want to run
[21:25] through a couple of slides.
[21:28] How hurricane sal see effected
[21:29] us.
[21:31] This map right here is very
[21:31] interesting.
[21:32] This shows the amount of
[21:34] rainfall that happened in
[21:37] hurricane sally.
[21:40] Obviously, the top-left was
[21:41] lighter rain and when you move
[21:44] to the bottom right, it gets
[21:44] heavier.
[21:46] The heaviest rain will be in the
[21:50] white and light purple areas and
[21:54] if can you see these areas here,
[21:57] this area received up to
[21:59] 200-year storm event but then
[22:04] this rea right in there,
[22:06] received a 500 year storm.
[22:10] It was quite rain event.
[22:15] From a cost standpoint and what
[22:18] kind of work does sally generate
[22:19] from us.
[22:21] This is different category a.
[22:24] It's our debris clean up and the
[22:26] total cost -- all these that I'm
[22:30] fix to go run off here are all
[22:31] still in the works, they're not
[22:33] set in stone and these are
[22:35] estimated prices and it's
[22:39] $60 million worth of vegetative
[22:41] cnd picked up on the
[22:42] right-of-way.
[22:43] The highway department didn't
[22:47] take that and it was our solid
[22:50] waste department and and
[22:51] preventative measures basically
[22:53] just what we do in the front end
[23:04] to protect our citizens and we
[23:05] spent 685,000.
[23:07] The cat-6, there's four or five
[23:08] of those.
[23:11] We've broken those into paved
[23:12] road damage.
[23:13] Sidewalk and guardrails.
[23:17] We had one project at fernwood
[23:17] drive under construction that
[23:18] received a lot of damage in the
[23:21] amount of $201,000 of damage.
[23:23] Our signs got ravaged throughout
[23:24] the county.
[23:27] About $300,000 worth of damage
[23:29] on those.
[23:31] Our unpaved gravel roads got
[23:34] washed out and so we're asking
[23:36] fema to help us fund those in
[23:40] the amount of $530,000.
[23:40] Our cross drains got washed out
[23:42] in the amount of $6 million and
[23:45] again all these projects were
[23:47] working through fema to help us
[23:49] reimburse those -- these
[23:50] projects will be going on for
[23:54] over the next year.
[23:56] And then fema covers some
[23:58] roadways but they don't cover
[23:59] all roadways.
[24:00] Our ajor roadways are actually
[24:02] covered through he federal
[24:03] highway administration and we
[24:05] have to go through their process
[24:06] as well and we had about a
[24:07] million dollars worth of damage
[24:10] on those and we'll work through
[24:12] fswa to get that money refunded
[24:13] as well.
[24:15] Our parks received about
[24:16] $864,000 worth of damage for a
[24:19] total of $96.6 million of
[24:25] estimated cost that hurricane
[24:26] sally destowed upon us.
[24:33] It was quite the storm.
[24:35] From a budget standpoint, we'll
[24:37] go down to engineering and
[24:38] administration activities.
[24:40] Again, we break this down into
[24:41] different departments.
[24:45] We have our pre-construction
[24:45] department.
[24:47] Our construction engineering
[24:48] which does all of our inspection
[24:51] and construction projects and
[24:54] our bridges and they actually
[24:57] also help inspect and permit
[24:59] subdivisions.
[25:00] Our geo-spacial operations and
[25:03] our admins.
[25:05] So, from a design standpoint,
[25:08] the goal was to resurface and
[25:10] complete design on four groups.
[25:13] We actually did five.
[25:15] And if you remember the
[25:16] commission gave me another
[25:18] million ollars because asphalt
[25:20] prices were dropping due to
[25:23] covid and we took advantage of
[25:24] that and get a few more roads
[25:27] paved at a better price.
[25:30] The bridge projects our goal was
[25:31] to complete design on three
[25:37] projects and we did that.
[25:39] Our goal was to complete design
[25:40] on four and we were able to do
[25:42] three with one n the progress
[25:45] and our drainage improvement
[25:46] projects was to complete design
[25:50] on one project and we did that.
[25:54] In design, we also have the park
[25:55] improvement projects.
[25:56] Our goal was to complete design
[26:02] on three and we accomplished
[26:02] that.
[26:04] We were able to introduce three
[26:05] special design projects and
[26:08] throw are in progress.
[26:11] The biggest part of all that I
[26:13] just was going over in our
[26:16] design section, the biggest
[26:17] hurdle we have to jump is
[26:19] actually to acquire the
[26:22] right-of-way for those projects.
[26:22] It takes a lot of time, it takes
[26:26] a lot of effort and man hour and
[26:27] one-on-one conversations and
[26:29] meetings and obviously covid has
[26:31] hurt that a lot.
[26:34] So, this slide is very important
[26:35] because all those funded
[26:37] projects that y'all funded and
[26:41] asked me to do required us to
[26:43] acquire about 59 right-of-way
[26:43] tracks.
[26:45] 50 of those right-of-way tracks
[26:46] were acquired and
[26:49] acquired and my department
[26:52] got 43 of those 50 donated,
[26:57] which was huge.
[26:58] So, our right-of-way department
[26:59] also works on projects that are
[27:01] not funded.
[27:01] Projects that we're scheduling
[27:03] for next year.
[27:05] and those projects, obviously
[27:10] we're trying to get right-of-way
[27:11] there and they've been
[27:12] identified and we're working on
[27:15] and that goal was to acquire 46
[27:16] right-of-way tracks.
[27:18] They were able to get 29 of
[27:21] those and all 29 of those were
[27:23] donated.
[27:27] Pre construction engineering.
[27:29] This is a summary.
[27:31] Projects that were in design and
[27:34] environmental permits were
[27:36] seven, special requests was 69.
[27:40] The right-of-way department
[27:40] continuously receives requests
[27:42] for research on what
[27:44] right-of-way we own.
[27:48] They received 852 requests this
[27:50] past year.
[27:52] The tracks were 79 in total.
[27:53] Right-of-way vacations processed
[27:56] were six and the deeds prepared
[27:58] were 102.
[28:01] From a construction engineering
[28:03] standpoint, again, this is our
[28:04] guides that inspect the
[28:06] construction projects are going
[28:07] on.
[28:11] They were able to inspect 61
[28:12] projects.
[28:14] Inspect 86 different
[28:17] subdivisions and I'm sorry,
[28:19] permit 86 different subdivision
[28:22] and process 46 commercial
[28:24] turnouts and 29 license
[28:27] agreements and 320 utility
[28:27] permits.
[28:29] We have a geo special operations
[28:33] which includes our surveyor.
[28:36] This is been a vision of mine
[28:37] with the department is to try to
[28:39] get a good data and inventory of
[28:40] everything we have on the road
[28:43] from a geo special standpoint.
[28:48] As you can see, we have 100%
[28:51] complete on our survey to G.I.S.
[28:54] Except for maintenance and 100%
[28:55] complete on our functional
[28:56] assessment and the others are
[29:02] still in progress.
[29:06] As far as apital expend
[29:07] expenditures,
[29:09] these are the funds that y'all
[29:12] have allocated to buy equipment
[29:15] and other things like equipment
[29:15] barns.
[29:19] You can see we've bought motor
[29:21] graders, bulldozers, sweepers,
[29:24] flat bed trucks, regular
[29:25] vehicles.
[29:26] We were able to construct an
[29:31] area of 200 equipment barn.
[29:32] Area 300 equipment barn.
[29:34] Traffic operations equipment
[29:34] barn.
[29:37] Couple of message boards.
[29:40] And that is some of our G.I.S.
[29:41] Equipment survey.
[29:45] From a budget standpoint, we
[29:49] budgeted right at a less less
[29:51] than 5.7 mill.
[29:52] Our actual spent on that was
[29:54] just a little over 5.6 for an
[29:58] under run of $76,000.
[30:00] For our motor vehicles, which is
[30:03] our smaller vehicles, we
[30:05] budgeted 552,000 and we spent
[30:07] 553,000 for an under run of
[30:07] about 18,000.
[30:11] From a building standpoint, this
[30:12] looks a lip lopsided because our
[30:13] buildings are not started yet.
[30:15] Y'all have actually helped fund
[30:17] two new maintenance facilities,
[30:19] one in area 100 and one in 200.
[30:20] These were under designed at
[30:23] this time and they're fixing to
[30:26] be let out -- one of them is
[30:27] advertising now and the other
[30:28] soon.
[30:29] The money sitting there and we
[30:30] just haven't spent it yet
[30:36] because we're fixing to start
[30:37] construction.
[30:38] On the other small items, we
[30:40] were under run those a little
[30:42] over a thousand dollars.
[30:46] So the challenge that's we faced
[30:48] for '20, was obviously hurricane
[30:52] sally and covid.
[30:56] Our work hours, our lost
[30:58] productivity from our work
[31:00] hours, I just went become and
[31:03] compared from '19 to fiscal year
[31:04] '20 and it's shocking because I
[31:06] thought it would be a bigger
[31:08] number but it was only 4.4% less
[31:11] when you looked at just the man
[31:12] hours that we're actually
[31:12] working.
[31:14] But, it doesn't tell the whole
[31:14] story.
[31:16] And the reason it doesn't it
[31:17] because we have the on the job
[31:19] loss of productivity.
[31:22] The time loss cleaning and
[31:24] disinfecting always and
[31:25] equipment.
[31:26] We can only put one person in a
[31:28] vehicle at a time for a long
[31:28] time.
[31:30] The huge thing was we had no
[31:31] inmate labor.
[31:33] If inmates were not there
[31:34] working, someone has to be doing
[31:36] what they weren't doing.
[31:38] Our guys that normally were
[31:39] doing other things had to be
[31:41] doing what they were doing.
[31:42] There was no really good way for
[31:44] me to calculate that.
[31:48] The loss of productivity was the
[31:50] biggest one.
[31:52] Looking ahead, goals and
[31:54] challenges for 2021, obviously
[31:57] we had a strategic plan now that
[31:59] y'all have directed us and
[31:59] adopted.
[32:00] Some of those strategic plans
[32:02] which you have directed the
[32:03] highway department to do is
[32:04] 2022.
[32:06] The residents will expect a
[32:07] well-plan set of new and
[32:09] improved roads for local travel
[32:15] that will alleviate traffic.
[32:17] By 2025-2027 they will
[32:20] experience reduced congestion
[32:22] and by 2022 the community will
[32:23] experience the reduction and run
[32:25] off and flooding through the
[32:28] implementation of regional
[32:31] retention systems for
[32:31] stormwater.
[32:33] Again, we have the same projects
[32:34] types we broken down.
[32:38] Our goal this year was to
[32:47] resurface 63.24 miles, pave 5.19 miles, with go mesa funds
[32:49] and pave another 1.8 with county
[32:52] funds and that 1.8 of county
[32:55] funds was hugby road and we
[32:58] finished that one up so that is
[33:05] completed.
[33:10] We begin onstruction on four
[33:11] bridge replacement projects.
[33:12] Safety improvements.
[33:14] We have three improvement
[33:16] projects complete and begin
[33:17] construction on three.
[33:19] These are goals that we're going
[33:22] to report on this time next
[33:23] year.
[33:25] Capacity improvements was one
[33:26] capacity mprovement project and
[33:28] design and it's our county road
[33:29] 64.
[33:30] We don't hink it will be let
[33:31] the to construction but it
[33:34] should be getting close.
[33:35] Drainage improvement was to
[33:38] complete construction of two
[33:41] drainage improvement projects
[33:42] and begin on one park
[33:43] improvement project and it's
[33:47] going to be what we are calling
[33:51] the icw boat launch.
[33:53] We also have the lillian boat
[33:56] launch projects that was funded
[33:57] through a restore council that
[33:58] was another grant we were
[34:01] successful in getting.
[34:07] This project is the study is
[34:07] underway.
[34:09] We're orking through dcnr to
[34:13] get that scope approved.
[34:15] This one got a little
[34:16] complicated because it got
[34:18] damage from hurricane sally and
[34:20] we have a restore grant
[34:21] repairing some of the stuff and
[34:23] fema repairing other stuff so
[34:25] it's going to get a little
[34:26] complicated on us.
[34:29] But there's nothing we can't
[34:32] handle.
[34:32] Maintenance activities.
[34:34] It was to ensure all citizen
[34:36] request and work orders are
[34:38] processed timely and ensure by
[34:42] annual inspections on ll
[34:43] roadways.
[34:45] Our geo-spacial uy set new
[34:48] goals to complete the cross
[34:48] inventory.
[34:50] The road sign inventory and
[34:51] develop and complete damage
[34:52] assessment database that will be
[34:54] huge for the next storm event
[34:55] that comes.
[34:56] And to continue improvement in
[35:01] training for G.I.S. Staff and
[35:03] integrate develop existing
[35:04] datasets and munis.
[35:06] Special rojects, was to
[35:09] complete four and have two in
[35:10] design.
[35:13] From a design standpoint, we're
[35:16] going to complete design on
[35:19] three groups of resurfacing
[35:21] projects, six bridges and one in
[35:23] design.
[35:24] New road construction was to
[35:26] complete design on two projects
[35:28] and to complete design on four.
[35:29] Park projects was to complete
[35:32] design on one project and begin
[35:33] design on two.
[35:34] Special projects was to complete
[35:38] design on six projects.
[35:40] This is one of the safety
[35:42] improvement projects in design
[35:42] already.
[35:44] This is county road 13
[35:55] roundabout at 44.
[35:57] Acquired 132 right-of-way
[35:57] tracks.
[36:00] You can see we've broken down
[36:03] for project type.
[36:04] And then the challenges for
[36:07] physical year 2021, obviously
[36:08] we're a growing county.
[36:09] This is 50% population growth
[36:13] just for the state of alabama.
[36:15] From 1960 to 2019.
[36:17] And if you compare that to what
[36:18] we've seen in baldwin county, we
[36:23] have seen a 354% growth rate.
[36:25] So that's obviously challenges.
[36:27] What are those challenges
[36:28] creating?
[36:30] This is just a graph of our
[36:31] annual resurfacing cost.
[36:33] As you can see, the background
[36:36] if you would, the one in gray,
[36:38] is represents what we should be
[36:39] recycling about every 12 years.
[36:45] If we maintain 100 -- if we
[36:48] maintain 1,381 miles of paved
[36:49] roads and that number stays
[36:51] consist apartment we should be
[36:54] doing 115 miles a year to
[37:04] recycle every one of those roads we're
[37:16] not doing that, this little area
[37:17] scheer what we did not get
[37:20] accomplished due to covid and
[37:23] salary and this is what we're
[37:28] project today do in 2021.
[37:34] We still maintain 176 miles of
[37:35] dirt roads.
[37:41] It takes $150,000 per mile to
[37:41] pave a dirt road.
[37:43] The commission funded
[37:45] $2.2 million in 2020, which was
[37:47] huge, if e did it, if we wanted
[37:49] to get rid of ll of them in 10
[37:52] years, we would be need to be
[37:53] doing $2.6 million a year for a
[37:54] total of $26 million total to
[37:56] get rid of all the dirt roads
[38:02] that we maintained in 10 years.
[38:05] So one of goals for our
[38:06] strategic plan was about
[38:08] capacity improvement.
[38:09] I've identified just a few of
[38:12] the big projects that we need to
[38:13] concentrate on.
[38:16] One was obviously the extend the
[38:17] baldwin beach express from 10 to
[38:18] 65.
[38:19] we're rying to find funding
[38:20] sources for that.
[38:23] Extend county road 68 from
[38:25] bohemian call to county road 48
[38:27] and industrial drive, up here
[38:29] near the mega site.
[38:31] Additional lane from 64 from
[38:34] state route 181 o 54 which is
[38:35] actually in design right now so
[38:37] that one is on going.
[38:40] Extend county road 65 from 28 to
[38:44] 32, which was partially funded
[38:44] in 2020.
[38:46] We're working on that.
[38:48] Extend county road 20 to 65
[38:49] which was partially funded in 20
[38:51] so we're working on that one and
[38:54] of course widen 95 from ish
[38:56] trap road to U.S. 98.
[38:59] It's quite a bit of money there,
[39:01] $226 million total for capacity
[39:04] improvements.
[39:06] This slide rit here is probably
[39:07] one of the better slides of the
[39:09] whole presentation.
[39:11] So this is 9 bridges under
[39:14] construction or funded and this
[39:15] was huge.
[39:20] Just going from top, I mean,
[39:33] you've got fred douger road and
[39:35] and we have both bridges on
[39:36] country road 34 being designed
[39:38] now.
[39:38] That's $7.9 million that the
[39:40] commission is actually funded
[39:41] for construction and that is
[39:42] huge.
[39:43] I don't know that we've ever had
[39:45] that much bridge activity going
[39:48] on in my tenure.
[39:53] So that's kudos to y'all.
[39:55] We still have eight bridges that
[39:56] are posted.
[39:59] And you can see some of them get
[39:59] pricy.
[40:02] This one is over 32 at fish
[40:08] river is around 10 million.
[40:10] That is my presentation.
[40:11] If y'all have any questions,
[40:13] I'll be happy to answer.
[40:15] >> on the, I know you got some
[40:19] looking into the future, what is
[40:24] going on with the green energy,
[40:28] the fossil fuel, trying cut back
[40:32] on them.
[40:34] We're seeing gas prices up and
[40:36] we're going to see asphalt go
[40:37] up.
[40:38] It's going to add a big cost to
[40:38] us.
[40:41] >> when the asphalt index goes
[40:42] up, which is what you are
[40:44] referring to, it effecting
[40:46] everything we do from buying
[40:49] fuel for our equipment to buying
[40:52] asphalt, because obviously it's
[40:56] made -- the asphalt index takes
[40:58] it to make asphalt so the price
[40:59] of everything can go up.
[41:01] Which is why we went ahead and
[41:03] the commission felt the need to
[41:04] go ahead and do that million
[41:06] dollars worth of resurfacing
[41:08] last year to take advantage of
[41:10] the low asphalt index price.
[41:12] >> I think it's going to be
[41:16] something we'll have to put up
[41:16] with.
[41:19] >> so, you said we had 15 posted
[41:21] bridges but we still have eight
[41:23] more that haven't been budgeted
[41:23] yet.
[41:27] So the ones that are funded and
[41:30] under construction, those ther
[41:33] seven are included in that?
[41:35] >> you said we have 15 posted
[41:36] bridges, now that means that
[41:38] there's a sign on there that
[41:39] says only o much weight can go
[41:40] over that bridge.
[41:41] That's what a posted means,
[41:42] correct.
[41:43] >> that's correct.
[41:45] >> you said we have eight more
[41:46] that need improvement.
[41:50] All those all posted those eight
[41:55] and then the others are under
[41:55] construction.
[41:58] We are addressing a big majority
[41:59] or alf of the posted bridges
[42:00] with what is under construction
[42:02] and what is funded now, right?
[42:06] >> absolutely.
[42:09] I should have explained.
[42:12] The as
[42:22] as --
[42:25] >> do you want the 32 bridges
[42:29] are (Inaudible).
[42:30] >> it is.
[42:32] It's the biggest bridge in the
[42:34] county and the one of the haller
[42:36] bridges in the county and right
[42:38] away is confined and it's going
[42:40] to be a task to replace that.
[42:43] >> there's no place to acquire
[42:44] anymore right-of-way because of
[42:45] the house that's are built
[42:46] there?
[42:47] >> on the west-end, yes.
[42:49] >> how much longer do you think
[42:51] that bridge, just a ballpark,
[42:53] before we really have to do
[42:54] something to that bridge?
[42:57] >> we've actually -- it's a
[42:57] steel gerder bridge.
[43:00] We painted that bridge probably
[43:03] about eight or 10 years ago to
[43:04] extend the life of it.
[43:08] I mean, I don't see us replacing
[43:08] it.
[43:11] I mean, if I felt a funding
[43:12] opportunity or a grant
[43:13] opportunity was there for me to
[43:17] get the 10 or 12 million-dollar
[43:18] that will be needed to have that
[43:19] thing and it only cost us a
[43:22] million or two, I
[43:24] I would replace
[43:24] it tomorrow.
[43:26] If the county had to come up
[43:28] with the $10 million to replace
[43:31] it, 10 years down the road.
[43:32] >> kick the can down the road
[43:35] and hopefully some type of grant
[43:36] opportunity will present itself.
[43:37] >> ok.
[43:39] >> I've submitted that projects
[43:40] for a couple of grants but I'm
[43:41] not successful.
[43:42] >> keep asking.
[43:44] >> that's right.
[43:46] >> one thing about the drainage.
[43:49] The project that we had on
[43:51] fernwood, I just want to commend
[43:52] those folks.
[43:55] You know, I don't know exactly
[43:58] the yards they moved but they
[44:02] dug 11 acres of ground and I
[44:03] think I was talking to rex and
[44:07] he has put over 1,000 and
[44:10] 1,000 hours on
[44:11] his machine just digging for the
[44:13] track itself.
[44:15] That's a lot of hours.
[44:18] You know, they did a fantastic
[44:18] job.
[44:19] >> they did.
[44:21] >> they did a great job.
[44:23] And that's going to be a really
[44:24] big help to that whole region
[44:26] down there, especially the
[44:27] sunrise subdivision.
[44:32] >> I just want to commend them.
[44:35] That was a her tech
[44:39] hectic project.
[44:40] They didn't have a place to go
[44:42] so they had to get rid of the
[44:42] water, first.
[44:49] To continue on.
[44:49] >> thank you for putting this
[44:51] together for us.
[44:52] It's an honor and privilege to
[44:54] be part of such a good part of
[44:57] this program here that shows our
[44:57] progress.
[44:58] Even in the midst of the storm
[44:59] and all that stuff.
[45:02] I mean, we still covered a lot
[45:02] of ground.
[45:04] I'm very proud of you and your
[45:05] staff.
[45:07] Everything that y'all
[45:08] accomplished.
[45:09] Like joe says, sometimes we're
[45:11] just a small part of this.
[45:15] Y'all do all the work and I
[45:17] can't express gratitude for
[45:17] this.
[45:18] Thank you so much.
[45:23] >> I can't do it without you
[45:24] guys.
[45:25] >> Chair Davis: I've told you
[45:26] this before and I'm going to say
[45:27] it in front these young people
[45:28] and anyone watch particular
[45:31] later on, we're
[45:37] ing it later on.We're blessed to have team
[45:38] members.
[45:39] You have people at the top, in
[45:40] the middle and down on the
[45:41] ground.
[45:42] I'm telling you, he is a rock
[45:44] star and he akes things happen
[45:46] and he makes us look good.
[45:48] If things were going ideways,
[45:50] he gets in our ear right away so
[45:52] we can elp him figure out an
[45:52] answer.
[45:54] Things rarely go sideways
[45:55] because he has, remember, all
[45:56] the big things happen because
[45:58] all the little things come into
[45:58] play.
[46:00] And if there's ever a
[46:01] department, that has to have it
[46:04] just right, it is your highway
[46:05] department.
[46:07] Building new roads are easy.
[46:08] Repairing an existing road with
[46:10] traffic on it and all the things
[46:13] that it involves, and s skip
[46:14] mentioned stormwater run off,
[46:15] just because you get it off of
[46:17] this spot, you've got to know
[46:18] where it's going.
[46:20] And joey, I want to tell you
[46:21] again how much I personally
[46:24] appreciate being a small part of
[46:26] this team.
[46:29] >> thank you,.
[46:29] >> Chair Davis: thank you.
[46:31] >> the picture that y'all see on
[46:32] that screen right there is from
[46:34] joey's picture he has hanging in
[46:39] his office and I'm jealous of.
[46:40] That's a roundabout.
[46:42] It's not a city far off.
[46:43] It's a roundabout.
[46:46] That's one in fairhope, right?
[46:47] >> yes.
[46:49] that's fairhope avenue and 13
[46:52] and actually, matthew brown
[46:53] actually took that picture at
[46:56] night with a drawing.
[46:57] Kudos to atthew.
[46:59] >> there you go.
[47:00] Like I told you, it's a team.
[47:01] And we all jump in.
[47:04] Thank you, matthew for that as
[47:04] well.
[47:06] Let's move on to the next topic,
[47:07] please.
[47:09] >> Mr. Chairman, next are the
[47:09] public hearings.
[47:10] We have three of those.
[47:13] And the first public hearing is
[47:17] a rezoning case, case z-21003.
[47:22] The garlet property rezoning.
[47:23] >> Chair Davis: we need to open
[47:24] this public hearing at this
[47:24] point.
[47:25] >> yes, sir.
[47:26] >> Chair Davis: very good.
[47:27] We're open to the public hearing
[47:29] on the case just described.
[47:30] Yes, ma'am.
[47:31] >> all right, this is a request
[47:33] to rezone a little over half an
[47:37] acre from rsf-1, single family.
[47:40] And rsf-2 to ra to allow for a
[47:42] home occupation.
[47:46] The subject property is located
[47:49] on boykin boulevard in planning
[47:49] district 22.
[47:51] As you can see, there's two
[47:53] single family zonings on the
[47:54] subject property but the
[47:57] applicant is requesting ra in
[47:59] order to have a home occupation
[48:02] to run a small deer processing
[48:06] business out of the home.
[48:09] This is an aerial photographer
[48:10] the subject property.
[48:12] There's a home on the property.
[48:15] And that is where the applicant
[48:17] plans to do his deer processing
[48:22] in his home.
[48:23] Here is a picture of the subject
[48:25] property in his home, where he
[48:26] plans to do it.
[48:30] this is a survey.
[48:32] The applicant, if the property
[48:34] is rezoned to ra, he will have
[48:39] to apply for a home occupation.
[48:41] The home occupation requirements
[48:43] for rural areas is confined to
[48:46] the principle building are an
[48:47] accessory structure located on
[48:49] the same lot at principle
[48:49] building.
[48:53] No display of products shall e
[48:54] visible from the street and only
[48:57] articles on the premises May be
[48:58] sold.
[48:59] The role of home occupation must
[49:01] be carried on solely by family
[49:03] members and no person outside
[49:04] the family May be employed on
[49:08] the premises.
[49:09] Staff has recommended approval.
[49:12] The planning commission also
[49:16] recommended approval at heir
[49:16] meeting.
[49:19] It was 6-0.
[49:23] We did receive quite a few
[49:24] letters and e-mails in
[49:26] opposition of this.
[49:27] We did eceive a couple from
[49:30] nearby that were in favor of it.
[49:35] The planning ommission didn't
[49:35] recommend approval.
[49:39] >> Chair Davis: thank you,
[49:40] ma'am, wayne, do we have anyone
[49:41] to signed up to speak.
[49:42] >> we have several.
[49:43] The first person et to speak on
[49:50] this item is sherry scarborough.
[49:52] >> wayne, can I ask you a
[49:57] question, is the applicant here?
[49:58] >> yes.
[50:01] The applicant can go first.
[50:02] >> Chair Davis: come to the
[50:03] podium and state your name and
[50:09] the topic, please.
[50:12] >> how y'all, I'm josh, this is
[50:15] my property.
[50:17] And pretty much what she
[50:18] explained is correct.
[50:20] We're locking to start a small
[50:23] deer processing business in our
[50:25] home which, like she also said,
[50:27] with it being the home
[50:30] occupation, there will be no
[50:32] signs of there even being a
[50:34] business there from the street,
[50:35] whatsoever.
[50:37] Just so y'all understand what
[50:39] deer processing is, in our mind,
[50:41] because apparently a lot of
[50:44] people think otherwise.
[50:48] This is turning pre cut deer
[50:51] meet into burgers, steaks,
[50:51] sausages.
[50:54] This is not dragging whole deer
[50:56] in, gutting them, leaving
[50:56] carcasses around.
[50:58] Nothing like that.
[51:02] So it's just a small family,
[51:04] friends who will be processing
[51:07] for and it will just be me and
[51:08] my wife.
[51:09] >> so people are going to bring
[51:12] you a cooler full of pre cut
[51:13] meat and you are going to turn
[51:14] it into what they want.
[51:15] >> that's correct.
[51:17] >> no one is going to bring you
[51:19] a deer to skin or clean.
[51:19] >> that's correct.
[51:20] Also, I'm sure it will get
[51:23] brought up, because the game
[51:26] warden has been set out to my
[51:28] house once and reported doing
[51:30] illegal deer processing
[51:31] operation.
[51:33] Which he found there's not true.
[51:36] He actually gave me his number
[51:38] and card nd told me if I needed
[51:40] anything from him, to call him
[51:44] and let him know.
[51:45] Also, what I was going to say
[51:47] about the illegal stuff, if the
[51:50] meat comes from florida, or any
[51:53] other state, it has to be only
[51:53] meat.
[51:56] There's no bone, no skull, no
[51:59] type of carcasses whatsoever is
[52:00] allowed into the state of
[52:05] alabama from any other state.
[52:06] Because of the C.W.D.
[52:07] you have to keep records of all
[52:08] of this.
[52:09] There's a public hunting
[52:11] property just down from my house
[52:13] where you have access to hunt on
[52:17] forever wild land.
[52:18] The game warden is there all the
[52:18] time.
[52:20] When he stopped by, he checked
[52:22] and let us know what we have to
[52:22] have.
[52:24] You have to have a confirmation
[52:27] number for each deer that's
[52:27] brought into you.
[52:28] It shows who killed the deer,
[52:31] where it was killed at and all
[52:34] that paperwork has to be with
[52:37] the meat the entire time.
[52:38] So there's no real way of
[52:40] getting around that.
[52:41] And also, something else that
[52:45] would be brought up is that me
[52:47] changing to rural agriculture,
[52:49] there's going to bring down
[52:54] other people's property values.
[52:56] I don't see that can happen.
[52:57] The map out there just shows my
[53:00] property and a couple besides
[53:01] us.
[53:04] My property is this lot right
[53:04] here.
[53:06] Every bit of this on our street
[53:08] is rural agriculture.
[53:11] Everything that is green -- how
[53:13] could my one ittle piece right
[53:17] here change any difference from
[53:19] all that?
[53:20] Pretty much that's all we have.
[53:24] I mean, I won't go into all the
[53:24] negatives.
[53:27] I know there's a petition and
[53:28] there's stuff that's been said
[53:30] that isn't true.
[53:33] In first in the letter that was
[53:35] sent to you all, stating that
[53:40] the first meeting we had that I
[53:42] spoke and it says Mr. Garlock
[53:45] spoke at the meeting legally
[53:46] after his question and answer
[53:47] session it should have never
[53:50] been approved to even present to
[53:53] the commissioners.
[53:58] Mr. Garlock admitted he
[54:01] discarded the deer meat in a
[54:02] garbage can provided by baldwin
[54:04] county solid waste on tuesday's.
[54:07] Which this is illegal.
[54:08] Completely untrue.
[54:10] I don't know if y'all watch the
[54:11] meeting that we had last one
[54:13] where I got up and spoke and
[54:13] everything.
[54:16] I've watched it five or six
[54:17] times.
[54:18] Nowhere in there -- there was
[54:20] only one person that mentioned
[54:22] garbage pick up and that was one
[54:25] of the people that was opposed
[54:26] that spoke.
[54:32] So I had not said anything about
[54:32] that.
[54:33] That's about it.
[54:34] If you have any questions or
[54:37] what not, I can answer them.
[54:43] >> I have a question for you.
[54:44] So, I understand a little bit
[54:46] about deer processing.
[54:48] I didn't have those
[54:48] misconceptions.
[54:50] I do have a question, you are
[54:52] allowed to do your own personal
[54:53] deer processing in your house if
[54:54] you want to.
[54:56] It's just that you are seeking
[54:59] this because you want to form a
[55:00] business or were you already
[55:01] doing this as a business and
[55:03] then found that you were not in
[55:04] compliance?
[55:05] That's my question.
[55:06] >> I haven't done it as a
[55:07] business.
[55:09] I have done it for friends and
[55:09] family.
[55:10] I do process my own deer meat.
[55:12] I've been doing it my entire
[55:12] life.
[55:14] >> and that's perfectly legal.
[55:17] >> if I wanted to process say 15
[55:19] of my friends, they all had deer
[55:23] that were taken up to big-name
[55:27] places paying $400 to get them
[55:28] processed when can I do it for
[55:30] half price or what not, there in
[55:34] the house, why not.
[55:35] No, I haven't been operating as
[55:36] a business.
[55:37] What I'm doing right now is
[55:43] trying to do the legal, right,
[55:43] process.
[55:44] >> that was a question and I'm
[55:48] trying to figure out how you got
[55:51] to this point of want to go
[55:54] rezone because if you want to
[55:56] rezone to a rural agriculture,
[55:58] even though I realize rural
[55:59] agriculture is surrounding you
[56:04] on one side, or a big portion, a
[56:06] half acre is not generally
[56:07] considered rural agriculture so
[56:11] it just sparked me that, you
[56:14] know, this was the measure that
[56:16] was suggested or that you
[56:18] requested in order to do this.
[56:21] I think of rural agriculture is
[56:22] bigger parcels of property.
[56:24] Even though you might be
[56:26] connected, I mean, do you own
[56:27] any of the other --
[56:28] >> I don't own any of that.
[56:30] There are smaller lots on the
[56:34] road here that are smaller than
[56:36] mine hat are rural agriculture.
[56:40] The rural agriculture bill was
[56:41] suggested to me.
[56:43] When I went to zoning, we called
[56:45] around trying to find out ex low
[56:46] what
[56:50] exactly what we needed to do.
[56:53] I don't want to keep giving you
[56:53] your opportunity.
[56:55] What I'm saying, is probably the
[56:57] ones that are smaller lots,
[56:59] those were probably when the
[57:01] zoning came no
[57:03] came into place, that was
[57:05] the exiting use so they didn't
[57:06] rezone it to residential.
[57:08] I'm just trying to get this in
[57:09] my mind.
[57:17] i don't really have in anymore
[57:18] questions.
[57:18] The Chairman Can control the
[57:20] number of minutes that llow
[57:22] people to peak I don't to get
[57:25] the public hearing too lengthy.
[57:26] >> yes, ma'am.
[57:27] That was recommended to me by
[57:28] the planning and zoning.
[57:30] When we alled around trying to
[57:31] ask hat we need today do to
[57:33] make everything legal, we sat
[57:34] down and they really didn't know
[57:35] what to do.
[57:36] They went through the books and
[57:38] we sat there for an hour or so
[57:40] and they said they didn't have
[57:41] any real request so what they
[57:44] came up with was to rezone to
[57:45] rural agriculture to have the
[57:50] home occupation.
[57:51] >> skip, do you have any
[57:52] questions or comments?
[57:52] >> no.
[57:54] >> all right.
[57:54] >> jeb.
[57:57] >> o, sir.
[57:58] Jurisdiction let me ask you
[57:58] something, I'm from
[58:04] >> Chair Davis: let me ask you,I'm from the country and we've
[58:05] killed a couple of eer and we
[58:07] have them on the back of a
[58:07] truck.
[58:09] We don't have them ready and we
[58:10] pull up to your house.
[58:12] What would you tell us?
[58:13] Where would you send us so we
[58:18] wouldn't get you in trouble with
[58:18] what you are proposing?
[58:18] >> I would probably recommend
[58:21] that you took it back to the
[58:24] property that it came from.
[58:27] Normally, when deer hunters have
[58:29] property, they have hat you
[58:30] call a gut pile.
[58:31] They clean their deer at the
[58:33] camp and they discard of the
[58:34] bones.
[58:36] The carcass and guts in the
[58:38] woods and nature takes care of
[58:38] that.
[58:40] And you bring out the meat.
[58:42] If you will check around, most
[58:45] other places, there's too much
[58:47] so lose for having -- you really
[58:48] can't do the whole carcass.
[58:50] It's not worth it to make a few
[58:52] extra bucks to have that -- like
[58:53] you say, I would have to take
[58:55] care of it and do something with
[58:57] it and if I don't own property,
[58:59] I'm taking that carcass to a
[59:00] different piece of property
[59:01] where it came from.
[59:04] That's what I would recommend.
[59:05] >> Chair Davis: so you have a
[59:07] system or a protocol that would
[59:08] address that should it happen?
[59:09] >> yes, sir.
[59:11] I mean, I wouldn't --
[59:13] >> I think people will know
[59:15] before they came to you, because
[59:16] these places around here, they
[59:21] can only bring the meat.
[59:26] He is not going to advertise it
[59:27] jurisdiction someone would have
[59:28] to told
[59:32] advertising.
[59:33] >> Chair Davis: one last
[59:34] question.
[59:35] From this process.
[59:37] Based on what you will receive,
[59:39] what sort of disposal, what
[59:42] would be involved in the garbage
[59:45] or he refuge that would be
[59:48] leftover and that you would
[59:50] encloud in your garbage pick up.
[59:51] >> the garbage, we talked to
[59:53] baldwin county solid waste and
[59:56] there is a special container
[59:57] that they will bring to you for
[59:58] having this.
[59:59] If there is, which it was
[1:00:01] brought up in the other meeting
[1:00:04] also, about being meat disposed,
[1:00:07] there's going to be a few
[1:00:09] pieces, we've contacted the zoo
[1:00:11] and the zoo takes stuff like
[1:00:11] that.
[1:00:13] You can bag it, freeze it and
[1:00:16] put it in the cooler and keep
[1:00:16] it.
[1:00:19] Take it and donate to the zoo.
[1:00:19] >> Chair Davis: very good.
[1:00:22] Those were things that were
[1:00:24] expressed to me and things that
[1:00:25] I wanted to give you an
[1:00:26] opportunity to share with
[1:00:27] everyone.
[1:00:27] I appreciate that.
[1:00:28] >> yes, sir.
[1:00:29] Thank you.
[1:00:30] >> Chair Davis: thank you.
[1:00:32] >> the next speaker signed up is
[1:00:44] lauren garlock.
[1:00:53] >> next speaker is gale beach.
[1:00:55] >> as a community, we are very
[1:00:56] opposed to this.
[1:00:57] Y'all have received numerous
[1:00:58] e-mails from the community and
[1:01:02] we also did a petition and
[1:01:04] you've gotten over 85 signatures
[1:01:06] that we are definitely opposed
[1:01:06] to this.
[1:01:07] And the reason why we feel like
[1:01:12] it will bring our property
[1:01:13] values down.
[1:01:14] You know, it just opens
[1:01:14] pandora's box.
[1:01:16] If we allow this to happen, then
[1:01:18] maybe two months down the road,
[1:01:19] someone is going to come to you
[1:01:23] and say hey, I want to open up a
[1:01:25] business and I want to work on
[1:01:26] used cars.
[1:01:27] And so then we're going to have
[1:01:28] that.
[1:01:29] Would you want that in your
[1:01:30] community or your neighborhood?
[1:01:34] I don't think so.
[1:01:36] Regarding josh, and I'm going to
[1:01:38] call him josh instead of
[1:01:39] Mr. Garlock, it has nothing to
[1:01:40] do with him.
[1:01:41] He is a great guy.
[1:01:42] We love him.
[1:01:46] We just want him to do it in a
[1:01:47] business.
[1:01:49] He can go up on 98 and open up a
[1:01:50] business there and do it.
[1:01:53] i'm sure everyone would support
[1:01:53] him.
[1:01:55] Regarding, I think it was
[1:01:57] suzanne wells, when she spoke at
[1:02:00] the last meeting, she did ask
[1:02:02] josh and I could have swore I
[1:02:05] heard him say, I put it in the
[1:02:07] garbage can with the waste
[1:02:10] products.
[1:02:10] Well, then we called Mr. Ed fox,
[1:02:13] he is the director with the
[1:02:14] solid waste, and he said you
[1:02:16] know, you can absolutely not do
[1:02:17] that.
[1:02:20] He has to have a commercial bin
[1:02:23] out there to dispose of the
[1:02:24] waste.
[1:02:26] And then we went ahead and we
[1:02:29] have no hronic wasting disease
[1:02:31] in the state of alabama.
[1:02:34] That's what a deer gets in a
[1:02:37] human terms that's kind of like
[1:02:38] mad cow disease.
[1:02:40] And so, the deer, in the state
[1:02:44] of alabama, we do not have that
[1:02:45] yet.
[1:02:47] It's guarded and protected and
[1:02:51] the deer are tagged and
[1:02:51] everything.
[1:02:53] However, they have been noted to
[1:02:55] be 25 miles outside of alabama
[1:02:56] in mississippi.
[1:02:58] And so, f I'm not mistaken, at
[1:03:02] the last meeting, josh said that
[1:03:05] he and his buddies go over to
[1:03:06] florida, they take the deer
[1:03:08] apart and they bring back the
[1:03:11] parts and clean it.
[1:03:12] Well, it is against the rules, I
[1:03:15] mean, you cannot transport a
[1:03:18] deer from one state to another
[1:03:19] state.
[1:03:19] That's illegal.
[1:03:21] And maybe we'll do it all from
[1:03:23] clark county or whatever, we
[1:03:27] cannot do it from florida or any
[1:03:28] other state.
[1:03:30] >> you can transport the meat.
[1:03:32] You just can't transport the
[1:03:37] skeleton and bone marrow.
[1:03:38] meat can be transported back.
[1:03:40] >> well, this information came,
[1:03:42] I mean, we did a lot of
[1:03:43] research.
[1:03:44] >> meat doesn't have chronic
[1:03:47] waste and disease, it's within
[1:03:48] the bone marrow and that's why
[1:03:49] people that kill these deer, and
[1:03:53] they want to bring back the big
[1:03:54] head mounts and all that stuff,
[1:03:57] they can't do it.
[1:03:58] It has to be dried out.
[1:04:00] Just cutting the meat off, I
[1:04:01] don't know if there's anybody
[1:04:02] here that can speak to that.
[1:04:04] >> well, let me just tell you,
[1:04:07] with chronic wasting disease, a
[1:04:10] deer appears normal and they do
[1:04:13] not show any sign of disease for
[1:04:16] two months to two years.
[1:04:17] So, the only way you are going
[1:04:19] to know if it has chronic
[1:04:21] wasting disease, is to
[1:04:23] to
[1:04:25] to biopsy
[1:04:26] that brain.
[1:04:27] You don't know if this is an
[1:04:29] infected deer or not.
[1:04:32] That is the reason why I will
[1:04:34] find and give it to you where we
[1:04:37] found that information about
[1:04:38] crossing state lines.
[1:04:42] And it says, any part of the
[1:04:44] deer.
[1:04:48] And then, let's see.
[1:04:50] It was referencing the
[1:04:52] guidelines posted in outdoor
[1:04:53] alabama, that's where we got
[1:04:55] this information.
[1:04:57] I had that at the house but I
[1:04:58] didn't bring t I
[1:05:01] it, but I will get
[1:05:02] it to you.
[1:05:03] We would just like he request in
[1:05:06] do this in a more suitable area.
[1:05:08] My question to you, would you
[1:05:11] like it in your neighborhood?
[1:05:14] That's all I have.
[1:05:15] We're worried about it bringing
[1:05:17] down the property value.
[1:05:21] he said that he was not growing
[1:05:22] with the poem
[1:05:25] people moving in and
[1:05:26] building million dollar homes.
[1:05:26] It's coming.
[1:05:30] Like at 98 and all the
[1:05:30] subdivisions they're plan to go
[1:05:31] build on 98.
[1:05:33] We're going to talk about four
[1:05:34] laning 98.
[1:05:36] I mean, lillian say little bitty
[1:05:39] area down there that is out of
[1:05:41] the way no one in baldwin county
[1:05:45] thinks about it but the ones
[1:05:46] that live there we want to be a
[1:05:50] part of that community.
[1:05:53] Where very opposed and there's
[1:05:55] 85 signatures, they came from 99
[1:05:55] north.
[1:05:58] Which is our side of --
[1:06:00] everybody thinks bout lillian,
[1:06:02] the cove, well, there's another
[1:06:06] section over there also.
[1:06:09] You've got to have a solid waste
[1:06:10] container to put that residual
[1:06:16] of the deer in and it's
[1:06:16] .53 acres.
[1:06:20] How is that going to look in the
[1:06:21] neighborhood?
[1:06:23] We're very opposed to this.
[1:06:23] >> Chair Davis: ok.
[1:06:27] We need to adhere where we can.
[1:06:29] Are you ready to wrap-up your
[1:06:29] comments?
[1:06:30] >> yes, sir.
[1:06:31] Unless anyone has any questions.
[1:06:33] >> Chair Davis: are there any
[1:06:33] questions or comments?
[1:06:35] If not we appreciate you coming
[1:06:37] forward and providing us with
[1:06:38] this information.
[1:06:38] Thank you, ma'am.
[1:06:40] >> thank you, sir.
[1:06:42] >> are there others to speak.
[1:06:52] >> next Mrs. Sherry scarborough.
[1:06:54] >> Chair Davis: let the record
[1:06:57] reflect, she was not first, ok.
[1:06:58] >> I don't like to go first.
[1:07:02] Good morning, everyone.
[1:07:08] I also live on boykin boulevard.
[1:07:11] josh, I know exactly where your
[1:07:14] house is.
[1:07:15] I normally would not have any
[1:07:17] problem with this whatsoever,
[1:07:19] except for your concern.
[1:07:22] I don't think you have enough
[1:07:22] property.
[1:07:24] If you had an acre, a full acre,
[1:07:26] two acres, I would say go for it
[1:07:29] and I would tell people about
[1:07:31] your processing place and send
[1:07:32] business to you.
[1:07:35] You don't have enough room.
[1:07:37] You are wedged in there between
[1:07:38] your mom's property and your
[1:07:42] house that you grew up in and
[1:07:42] that's just it.
[1:07:44] You did
[1:07:46] don't have enough place.
[1:07:47] If this is allowed, there's
[1:08:07] going to be other businesses --
[1:08:09] if you bring a deer that's been
[1:08:16] shot in clark county, you would
[1:08:17] tell them to take it back where
[1:08:20] they shot it and field dress it
[1:08:21] out.
[1:08:21] No, they're not going to do
[1:08:22] that.
[1:08:25] They're going to go on
[1:08:26] on he
[1:08:28] avenue where there's deer dumped
[1:08:30] this year and my property is
[1:08:34] right in front of forever wide,
[1:08:37] which goes down oak street and
[1:08:38] opens up into forever wild.
[1:08:41] That's where they get deer
[1:08:42] carcasses have been this year.
[1:08:44] I'm not saying they came and did
[1:08:47] that and brought it to josh, I'm
[1:08:48] just saying that we've already
[1:08:52] had people dumping illegally
[1:08:56] deer carcasses right there on
[1:08:58] rester off, in my backyard
[1:08:59] practically.
[1:09:00] I'm just saying there's a
[1:09:04] possibility that this would
[1:09:05] increase the illegal deer
[1:09:06] carcasses.
[1:09:08] This is not the place for this
[1:09:08] business.
[1:09:14] it really is not.
[1:09:16] I wish whoa find a larger place.
[1:09:19] This looks like rester back
[1:09:19] there.
[1:09:20] I don't know.
[1:09:21] I don't know what the zoning it
[1:09:23] on the street behind us but this
[1:09:26] where josh is now, it's not the
[1:09:26] place.
[1:09:28] I don't think because he is just
[1:09:31] doesn't have enough area.
[1:09:32] I just don't think this is where
[1:09:34] it needs to be and this is all I
[1:09:35] have to say.
[1:09:35] >> Chair Davis: all right.
[1:09:36] Any questions or comments?
[1:09:40] Thank you.
[1:09:41] Ma'am.
[1:09:44] Next speaker is carl.
[1:09:48] He is coming from the outside.
[1:09:53] >> Chair Davis: here he comes.
[1:09:56] >> if you would, carl, confine
[1:09:58] your comments to three minutes
[1:10:02] and I'll give you thumbs up when --
[1:10:04] >> I'm not a big speaker.
[1:10:05] >> Chair Davis: go ahead we need
[1:10:07] to hear your message.
[1:10:13] >> I live on boykin boulevard
[1:10:15] and I'm appalled him in this
[1:10:15] position.
[1:10:20] I didn't think we would get this
[1:10:20] far.
[1:10:22] As far as I'm concerned, call it
[1:10:25] what you will, you know.
[1:10:28] You want to call it deer
[1:10:31] processing or call it
[1:10:32] slaughterhouse?
[1:10:33] I don't know.
[1:10:35] I can't corral the deer to get
[1:10:39] them over to his place so he can
[1:10:39] process them.
[1:10:42] Just short of that, we got a
[1:10:43] problem here finding where this
[1:10:46] is going to be one.
[1:10:47] The whole process.
[1:10:48] The whole process.
[1:10:50] Not the processing house.
[1:10:51] The whole process.
[1:10:57] Other people brought that up.
[1:10:59] I don't know, messing around
[1:11:03] with virtually wet markets, I
[1:11:04] mean, that's why we're all
[1:11:07] wearing masks, right.
[1:11:10] We believe that somehow this
[1:11:13] animal thing and people, you
[1:11:13] know.
[1:11:15] You get what ou have.
[1:11:21] Swine flu and now some kind of
[1:11:23] mad cow disease or mad deer
[1:11:23] disease.
[1:11:23] I don't know.
[1:11:30] I don't know about that.
[1:11:37] >> Ches Crosbie: opposed to thisi am
[1:11:37] opposed.
[1:11:54] It will drop the property value,
[1:11:56] .
[1:11:57] I'm not going to use your time
[1:11:59] but thank you.
[1:12:00] >> Chair Davis: got any
[1:12:01] questions?
[1:12:02] We appreciate your input.
[1:12:05] Thank you, sir.
[1:12:07] >> the last speaker we have
[1:12:12] signed up is jerry key.
[1:12:19] >> Chair Davis: Mr. Key.
[1:12:22] >> I'm jerry key from lillian.
[1:12:24] I live right next door to josh
[1:12:27] and I'm his stepfather.
[1:12:29] I am a commercial fisherman by
[1:12:30] trade.
[1:12:32] I have a small business right
[1:12:33] there out of my house.
[1:12:35] Which is the same thing that my
[1:12:37] dad did and his dad and his dad
[1:12:41] for over 200 years in lillian.
[1:12:44] Lillian is named after my great
[1:12:45] aunt.
[1:12:46] My family has run just a small
[1:12:48] family business like that.
[1:12:51] Like I said, for over 200 years.
[1:12:56] I don't see a problem at all.
[1:12:57] I'm sure with the waste and
[1:12:59] smell it can't be worse than the
[1:13:03] fisherman, whatever he does
[1:13:06] there.
[1:13:07] I just don't know why he can't
[1:13:09] have a little business when all
[1:13:15] the people now that are
[1:13:16] complaining is they're worried
[1:13:17] about money.
[1:13:18] they're worried about property
[1:13:18] values.
[1:13:22] Some have eight and 10 locks
[1:13:26] down there and and that's an
[1:13:26] at-home business.
[1:13:28] They you are working out of
[1:13:30] their houses and buying property
[1:13:31] and selling it.
[1:13:32] They're making money.
[1:13:37] Good, I'm glad for them.
[1:13:39] I did have a problem when people
[1:13:41] would tell omeone, especially a
[1:13:43] young man, he can't try to
[1:13:45] better himself and do something.
[1:13:47] It's the same thing that's been
[1:13:48] going on for generations.
[1:13:50] Over 10 generations of my
[1:13:50] family.
[1:13:52] They have saw any kind of work
[1:13:54] there around lillian, they
[1:13:56] guided fishing, hunting, they
[1:13:58] did farming and whatever they
[1:14:02] could do to make a dollar.
[1:14:04] As far as processes, my
[1:14:05] grandfather always talked about
[1:14:08] when they would go out and catch
[1:14:09] mullet and salt them and put
[1:14:11] them on a train and send them to
[1:14:12] new york many of that was a
[1:14:16] little at-home business.
[1:14:17] That's what yan is
[1:14:21] lillian is really
[1:14:22] about.
[1:14:23] >> your property is o the right
[1:14:26] or to the left of the subject
[1:14:26] property?
[1:14:28] >> to the right.
[1:14:31] >> so, that property is rsf-2,
[1:14:35] is that correct?
[1:14:37] It says rsf-1.
[1:14:39] >> were you operating this
[1:14:40] business prior to zoning?
[1:14:42] So your grandfathered in under
[1:14:44] that so that if you were to just
[1:14:47] now start your business, it
[1:14:50] would not e not in compliance?
[1:14:51] As long as you continue that
[1:14:54] business, you can continue it on
[1:14:55] and on.
[1:14:57] If you were to cease doing what
[1:14:58] you are doing, you wouldn't
[1:15:00] be -- am I speaking correctly
[1:15:06] from zoning perspective.
[1:15:07] You asked the question, why
[1:15:08] can't he start a business
[1:15:09] because he is not grandfathered
[1:15:11] in and he is in a residential
[1:15:12] area.
[1:15:13] That's the only comment that I
[1:15:17] wanted to make sure that it was
[1:15:17] understood.
[1:15:19] Really and truly, the use of the
[1:15:21] property is not the main concern
[1:15:22] right now.
[1:15:24] It's the question is, you are
[1:15:26] asking to rezone.
[1:15:28] So that's a erious issue when
[1:15:29] you got other areas in that.
[1:15:32] I mean, I understand concerns
[1:15:33] but there's any number of things
[1:15:35] that you can do at a home
[1:15:37] business besides deer processing
[1:15:39] that might not be agreeable or
[1:15:40] disagree able so I don't want to
[1:15:41] continue the public hearing on
[1:15:41] and on.
[1:15:44] I just wanted ask if you were
[1:15:54] doing that prior to zoning.
[1:15:57] >> I didn't know about zoning, I
[1:15:57] just learned about it.
[1:16:02] >> Chair Davis: thank you, sir.
[1:16:03] >> do you have a letter that was
[1:16:10] in your addendum packet for this
[1:16:11] item.
[1:16:12] >> I want today clarify
[1:16:13] something.
[1:16:14] Reading from the same article
[1:16:19] which part of it is cited in the
[1:16:55] letter.
[1:16:58] >> deer meat that is dezoned,
[1:17:00] clean skull plates with attached
[1:17:02] antler if no brain or spinal
[1:17:04] cord tissue present, raw capes
[1:17:07] if no visible or spinal cord
[1:17:10] present, upper canine teeth in
[1:17:12] no root structure or other soft
[1:17:13] tissue is present and finished
[1:17:15] tax a
[1:17:20] taxi and they are illegal in
[1:17:22] alabama unless they're part of
[1:17:26] the is finished taxidermi.
[1:17:28] The statement it's illegal to
[1:17:32] transport deer meat into the
[1:17:36] state of alabama is false.
[1:17:36] >> Chair Davis: ok.
[1:17:37] Anything else we need to do.
[1:17:38] >> there's no one else signed up
[1:17:40] to speak.
[1:17:41] I don't know if anyone didn't
[1:17:42] sign up.
[1:17:44] That's all official speaker
[1:17:45] we've had signed up.
[1:17:49] >> I didn't sign up.
[1:17:49] >> Chair Davis: come to the
[1:17:51] podium and give us your name,
[1:17:52] please.
[1:17:54] So we can have it on the
[1:17:56] official records.
[1:17:59] >> my name is mary joe conlee
[1:18:02] and I live on boykin boulevard.
[1:18:03] I'm are not concerned about he
[1:18:05] meat processing in his kitchen,
[1:18:07] which he said he was going to
[1:18:07] do.
[1:18:09] I'm concerned about the
[1:18:10] rezoning.
[1:18:12] He built that house a little
[1:18:14] less than a -- around a year
[1:18:15] ago.
[1:18:16] Knowing if he was already doing
[1:18:18] this meat processing, that he
[1:18:21] would be building in a
[1:18:22] residential lot.
[1:18:23] Why didn't he go out and build
[1:18:26] in the country where
[1:18:30] where -- in a
[1:18:31] rural area already.
[1:18:36] His step dad, I'm sorry,
[1:18:37] Mr. Key, he has been doing that
[1:18:38] business and it's been
[1:18:40] profitable, I'm sure, and it's
[1:18:43] very non noticeable.
[1:18:45] He doesn't have people coming
[1:18:46] there all the time.
[1:18:51] I'm just curious, I've never
[1:18:52] been able to cut all the meat
[1:18:55] off of a bone at my farm and
[1:18:59] take it to loxley to get
[1:18:59] process.
[1:19:01] Those bones are coming to your
[1:19:03] kitchen and it's not bout the
[1:19:05] meat, it's about the rezoning.
[1:19:08] He knew he was building a house
[1:19:09] there, and it was residential
[1:19:11] when he built.
[1:19:13] And he stated ast month that he
[1:19:18] had been doing this for years.
[1:19:20] Go somewhere where you can
[1:19:21] legally do it.
[1:19:23] If you wanted to be a business.
[1:19:24] Thank you.
[1:19:32] >> thank you, ma'am.
[1:19:34] >> Chair Davis: you are a team.
[1:19:37] Do you both need to speak?
[1:19:43] >> I just wanted to --
[1:19:44] >> I just want to address this
[1:19:46] comment that was made bout me
[1:19:47] building a house.
[1:20:04] It's been there for two years.
[1:20:05] Most of the people that spoke to
[1:20:07] you haven't lived in lillian for
[1:20:09] 40 years, their whole life.
[1:20:12] They're coming rom other
[1:20:12] places.
[1:20:15] And also on the pet
[1:20:16] petition, a lot
[1:20:19] of those are south of 98.
[1:20:20] It's not even in our
[1:20:22] neighborhood and there's one on
[1:20:23] there for daphne.
[1:20:24] >> Chair Davis: thank you.
[1:20:26] >> I have one quick question.
[1:20:28] What's the time period that you
[1:20:30] do the processing?
[1:20:34] Is it from the beginning of deer
[1:20:36] season to the end of deer
[1:20:36] season.
[1:20:43] >> it would be for three months.
[1:20:45] >> how do you rent a place for
[1:20:47] $2,000 month when you make
[1:20:49] $2,000 over a three-month
[1:20:50] period.
[1:20:51] It's not a big commercial
[1:20:51] business.
[1:20:53] If it does do good, if it ends
[1:20:55] up a lot of people like it and
[1:20:57] they come, I will move.
[1:21:00] I will move out to 98.
[1:21:02] You've got to be realistic with
[1:21:03] it.
[1:21:03] >> Chair Davis: any other
[1:21:04] questions or comments.
[1:21:14] Thank you, sir.
[1:21:15] Identify yourself, please.
[1:21:18] >> I'm lauren, josh's wife.
[1:21:21] And just one other thing, we
[1:21:23] finally it donned on us why it's
[1:21:26] going to be rezoned because when
[1:21:29] we went through this home
[1:21:30] occupation conditions, which
[1:21:33] like josh said, we talked to the
[1:21:33] zoning people for a while, they
[1:21:35] had to go through the books to
[1:21:38] find out, I made him call around
[1:21:40] to see how to do it legally to
[1:21:41] take money for it.
[1:21:43] We got to every department in
[1:21:49] alabama and with the zoning.
[1:21:51] If it's in a residential
[1:21:52] district, then, it says the area
[1:21:54] used for the home occupation
[1:21:58] shall not exceed 20% of the
[1:21:58] gross floor area.
[1:21:59] Of the principle building and
[1:22:02] then if it's a home occupation
[1:22:06] in rural district, there's no
[1:22:09] 20% so I guess if he told the
[1:22:11] zoning people that we were going
[1:22:12] to do it in a building, if we're
[1:22:14] going to build garage or
[1:22:15] whatever.
[1:22:16] He was taken in account the size
[1:22:17] of the building maybe and I
[1:22:19] think that's the only reason
[1:22:25] that this came up.
[1:22:30] So, to get it rezoned, it's a
[1:22:31] special condition.
[1:22:32] It's under the three acres.
[1:22:35] It says in the papers September
[1:22:36] to us from
[1:22:41] sent fromrezoning, if approved, the
[1:22:42] applicant must apply for home
[1:22:44] occupation application and so
[1:22:47] all those rules would apply to
[1:22:47] us.
[1:22:49] It's not opening a whole bunch
[1:22:50] of other people trying to rezone
[1:22:52] to rural agriculture is what I
[1:22:53] would think.
[1:22:58] I just wanted to answer those
[1:22:59] questions.
[1:23:03] >> the length of time, is that
[1:23:04] considered in the thing as being
[1:23:09] an occupational thing for three
[1:23:12] months?
[1:23:12] That's the question.
[1:23:14] >> the home occupations you have
[1:23:15] two types.
[1:23:18] You have the ones for
[1:23:18] residential and someone does
[1:23:20] taxes out of their house but you
[1:23:21] can't have people coming and
[1:23:23] going to your premises, that's
[1:23:24] one of the criteria.
[1:23:29] When you get to the ra-type home
[1:23:31] occupations it's more expanded
[1:23:33] and you do more things because
[1:23:42] you've got property that is less
[1:23:43] developed.
[1:23:45] >> does three months constitute
[1:23:48] a home occupation?
[1:23:51] >> so, from my opinion, as a
[1:23:54] former lanner, home occupation
[1:23:55] is home occupation whether it's
[1:23:57] one or 12 months.
[1:23:59] The use exist, when it exists.
[1:24:01] >> it's the comings and goings
[1:24:03] of people and different things
[1:24:04] like that.
[1:24:06] Like you are saying, can you
[1:24:07] literally never ever see clients
[1:24:10] and just be in your house.
[1:24:13] You could take a home
[1:24:14] occupation, you know.
[1:24:15] You've got cottage
[1:24:18] cottage kitchens.
[1:24:19] Big issue is you are requesting
[1:24:21] rezoning more than anything and
[1:24:26] that's what I wanted to stress.
[1:24:28] To me, this is an anti deer
[1:24:29] processing thing.
[1:24:37] I eat deer meat.
[1:24:40] My husband goes out of the state
[1:24:42] and kill an elk.
[1:24:45] He had to bring it home and just
[1:24:49] the meat.
[1:24:50] It's the fact you are asking us
[1:24:52] to rezone a piece of property
[1:24:53] that's only half of what you
[1:24:55] need to even be rule
[1:24:56] agriculture.
[1:24:58] So, I'm looking at the rezoning
[1:25:00] more than I am -- it's not about
[1:25:01] what you are doing.
[1:25:04] Some of things that have been
[1:25:05] said, some are not nice, maybe
[1:25:07] not kind or any of that kind of
[1:25:07] stuff.
[1:25:08] It's not about that.
[1:25:11] It's about should this piece of
[1:25:12] property remain what it is or
[1:25:14] should it be rezoned to what you
[1:25:20] are asking it to be.
[1:25:20] >> thank you.
[1:25:22] >> let me pose reference here.
[1:25:25] You came up with a rezoning, or
[1:25:27] you were advise today do this
[1:25:28] way?
[1:25:29] >> we were advised by the
[1:25:31] planing and zoning comment to do
[1:25:31] this.
[1:25:33] >> that's my point.
[1:25:35] >> thank you.
[1:25:37] >> people that work for us.
[1:25:38] >> ok.
[1:25:39] Anyone else?
[1:25:40] >> no, sir.
[1:25:42] >> anyone else in the audience
[1:25:44] that feels compelled to reach
[1:25:45] out and say something.
[1:25:49] >> we're back.
[1:25:58] Come on.
[1:25:59] >> please address the chair.
[1:26:02] >> it has nothing to do with
[1:26:03] income.
[1:26:05] Wealthy people versus anyone
[1:26:05] else.
[1:26:07] It has nothing to do with that.
[1:26:14] It is simply the only problem is
[1:26:15] the place is not big enough.
[1:26:21] It is not.
[1:26:22] >> Chair Davis: this is the
[1:26:23] point you made earlier.
[1:26:24] If you have new information,
[1:26:25] please share it.
[1:26:26] Otherwise we need to move on.
[1:26:27] >> let's move on.
[1:26:28] >> we have a question.
[1:26:34] >> I got a uestion for you.
[1:26:36] Tell me, in your thought
[1:26:39] process, what does not big
[1:26:42] enough mean?
[1:26:45] >> this property, at point
[1:26:46] 53 acres.
[1:26:47] >> all he has to have is a shed.
[1:26:49] You got a shed, right.
[1:26:51] Or a facility?
[1:26:52] >> he had said he is doing it in
[1:26:53] his house.
[1:26:54] >> he is doing in his house.
[1:26:57] >> he planned on doing this in
[1:26:57] his house.
[1:27:00] He is been doing this by his own
[1:27:02] admission for several years or
[1:27:06] prior to building on this lot.
[1:27:08] >> I'm talking about in his new
[1:27:09] house right now.
[1:27:10] He is going to be doing
[1:27:14] processing inside his new house.
[1:27:14] I don't understand how come
[1:27:16] that's not ig enough?
[1:27:18] He is performing a business
[1:27:19] inside is house.
[1:27:23] He has got to get this done so
[1:27:24] the planning department
[1:27:26] recommended he get it so he
[1:27:27] doesn't get in trouble by
[1:27:29] selling and taking goods and
[1:27:30] services and I don't see it
[1:27:38] being a huge business.
[1:27:40] >> where we're getting crossed a
[1:27:43] little bit and it's just a
[1:27:43] misunderstanding.
[1:27:45] The request to rezone to rule
[1:27:47] agriculture and there's a
[1:27:50] minimum size which is 40,000
[1:27:55] square feet.53 would on be
[1:27:58] about 20,000 square feet.
[1:28:02] That was that was the reference.
[1:28:04] >> they got bad advice from our
[1:28:05] employers to go forward with
[1:28:06] this?
[1:28:07] Is that what you are saying?
[1:28:07] >> yes.
[1:28:09] >> I did not say that.
[1:28:10] >> Chair Davis: well, that's
[1:28:10] what it sounded like.
[1:28:12] >> so when people come into the
[1:28:13] planning department, I've been
[1:28:14] doing this for 27 years, they
[1:28:16] say I want to do this and how do
[1:28:16] I do it.
[1:28:18] I don't think the staff will
[1:28:19] say, go out there and
[1:28:21] aggressively tell people, can
[1:28:24] you do it this way and that way.
[1:28:26] Let us help you understand what
[1:28:27] the rules are and if you want to
[1:28:29] do this, this is how you are
[1:28:31] going to need to do it.
[1:28:32] I don't think we're out there
[1:28:34] telling people what to do.
[1:28:36] >> I feel like we've got a good
[1:28:37] planning department in place,
[1:28:39] not only did our staff approve
[1:28:42] this, it went for board of a
[1:28:45] commission where it was a
[1:28:47] unanimous decision for the
[1:28:48] applicant.
[1:28:49] At any time, the people that
[1:28:50] we're speak north opposition of
[1:28:52] this at that planning zones I
[1:28:54] watched it.
[1:29:00] It didn't sway the minds of the
[1:29:02] it didn't change the minds.
[1:29:04] Both have recommended approval.
[1:29:05] Usually you would see a planning
[1:29:07] commission vote one or two vote
[1:29:09] no and you can go back and ask,
[1:29:11] why did you vote o on this and
[1:29:12] just explain.
[1:29:13] I do it with all of them.
[1:29:14] If I see someone that votes no,
[1:29:17] I say why did you vote no on
[1:29:18] this, just to get their side of
[1:29:18] the story.
[1:29:22] In this case, usually with a 6-0
[1:29:26] vote down the middle of for the
[1:29:27] applicant, our planning
[1:29:29] department said it's good to go.
[1:29:30] I don't know why.
[1:29:32] We still center to vote on it.
[1:29:34] I don't know why we're
[1:29:36] questioning it.
[1:29:41] >> Chair Davis: are we ray' to ready to
[1:29:41] close.
[1:29:43] >> of a comment.
[1:29:45] When they stayed with us for a
[1:29:46] while we recommended ra because
[1:29:48] the deer processing we felt was
[1:29:52] more like an agricultural than a
[1:29:53] residential use.
[1:30:02] Being a smaller lot, we hadn't
[1:30:04] had an issue with asking for a
[1:30:07] restoning because it's a lot of
[1:30:08] work.
[1:30:09] It's been that way for a while.
[1:30:10] That's were we recommended the
[1:30:14] ra and the home object
[1:30:14] precipitation.
[1:30:15] We can close the public hearing.
[1:30:16] We can ask her questions in our
[1:30:17] regular meeting.
[1:30:18] >> is there anyone else that
[1:30:22] needs to speak under the public
[1:30:22] hearing?
[1:30:24] Seeing or hearing none.
[1:30:26] Public hearing is closed.
[1:30:27] We'll have discussion leading up
[1:30:30] to a vote relative to this
[1:30:30] project.
[1:30:33] >> I have a question for selena.
[1:30:35] This is not in any effort
[1:30:39] whatsoever to make you guys look
[1:30:40] bad or anything.
[1:30:42] When it's a lot of record I
[1:30:43] understand they will not always
[1:30:47] be in the same specifications
[1:30:50] but when we're asking for a
[1:30:54] rezoning, it's something that I
[1:30:58] look for.
[1:31:00] To say there was a mistake made,
[1:31:02] it was not my intentions at all.
[1:31:03] Because I did not say that. I
[1:31:06] was just saying that I don't
[1:31:07] feel like when you are asked to
[1:31:09] rezone something, versus it
[1:31:12] being a lot of record, that you
[1:31:14] need to steer from the
[1:31:17] requirements as much.
[1:31:20] So, it's just from years of
[1:31:24] dealing with these situations
[1:31:26] and being on, not as a
[1:31:27] commission but as a planning
[1:31:30] commissioner for 22 years.
[1:31:33] It's something that I've learned
[1:31:34] and looked at.
[1:31:37] So, I understand the pressure
[1:31:39] that an happen from someone
[1:31:40] wanting to do something.
[1:31:42] i want to make it clear, to
[1:31:44] anyone that is here about this
[1:31:46] particular case, whether it's
[1:31:48] the owner that's requesting this
[1:31:51] or it's the neighbors that are
[1:31:54] making the comments, to me, it's
[1:31:56] not about what he is asking to
[1:32:01] do here, it's about the rezoning
[1:32:03] rezoning.
[1:32:17] And it meets, does it not meet
[1:32:18] the requirements of what it is?
[1:32:22] Even if it is, it's
[1:32:24] grandfathered in as a lot of
[1:32:25] record, I guess you could say.
[1:32:25] That's all.
[1:32:27] I don't want it to o say that I
[1:32:30] said the planning epartment
[1:32:32] made a mistake or made an error
[1:32:33] or anything like that?
[1:32:35] >> what you said could be taken
[1:32:36] that way.
[1:32:37] Whether I took it correctly or
[1:32:39] not, really doesn't matter.
[1:32:41] We're at a point where lobbying
[1:32:44] for a particular position is not
[1:32:45] our job.
[1:32:46] We have a recommendation in
[1:32:49] front of us that was unanimously
[1:32:50] approved by our planning
[1:32:51] commission and would recommend
[1:32:52] by ur staff.
[1:32:54] So we're in a point, unless
[1:32:58] there's other discussions, for a
[1:33:07] motion, a second and a vote.
[1:33:09] >> I make the motion we accept
[1:33:12] staff recommendation and approve
[1:33:16] this place.
[1:33:21] This case.
[1:33:22] >> Chair Davis: as I expressed
[1:33:24] earlier, the chair cannot make a
[1:33:26] motion or a second.
[1:33:29] We have a motion n the floor.
[1:33:31] Is there a second to approving
[1:33:35] this particular case unanimously
[1:33:36] approved by our planning
[1:33:44] commission and our staff?
[1:33:45] >> I'll second for discussion.
[1:33:48] >> we have a motion and a
[1:33:48] second.
[1:33:50] Does anyone have any new points
[1:33:54] to bring up relative to
[1:34:00] discussion?
[1:34:03] Hearing none, call for a vote.
[1:34:05] All in favor of moving this
[1:34:07] forward and a proving the
[1:34:10] recommendation signify by saying
[1:34:11] aye.
[1:34:11] Aye.
[1:34:15] Those opposed signify by saying
[1:34:15] aye.
[1:34:15] Aye.
[1:34:18] So we have a 2-2 vote which in
[1:34:22] effect is a no vote.
[1:34:25] Now, tell the public what
[1:34:27] happens to this process when
[1:34:30] we've had a no-vote.
[1:34:32] Can you share is that with us
[1:34:32] from your knowledge.
[1:34:34] >> it will stay the current
[1:34:37] zoning, the rsf-1 and rsf-2.
[1:34:39] The applicant will have to wait
[1:34:41] a year before he can come back
[1:34:45] and ask for another rezoning
[1:34:45] request.
[1:34:46] The home occupation won't be
[1:34:48] able to be approved.
[1:34:49] >> Chair Davis: does that mean
[1:34:52] that he can't do this home
[1:34:55] occupation under the current
[1:34:56] zoning?
[1:34:57] >> no, sir.
[1:35:00] We determined it was more of an
[1:35:00] agriculture
[1:35:01] al use so he would
[1:35:06] need the ra zoning.
[1:35:07] >> Chair Davis: back to my
[1:35:07] question.
[1:35:12] Whether he be able to use his
[1:35:14] property for the processing that
[1:35:16] he described s its currently
[1:35:17] zoned?
[1:35:19] >> he can do it for himself and
[1:35:30] not as a business.
[1:35:31] >> Chair Davis: thank you,
[1:35:32] ma'am.
[1:35:35] >> next case is case re zoning
[1:35:38] case z-21006.
[1:35:41] >> wayne, can I make a
[1:35:42] statement.
[1:35:43] >> the junior embassadors have
[1:35:45] got to leave and I was going to
[1:35:46] recognize them real quick and
[1:35:47] let ashley come up and talk
[1:35:49] about them real quick.
[1:35:50] >> Chair Davis: sure, let's do
[1:35:50] that.
[1:35:51] If that's ok.
[1:35:52] Come on, ashley.
[1:36:00] Come on up.
[1:36:00] >> I'm sorry, we have to leave
[1:36:01] early.
[1:36:03] We do have lunch with district
[1:36:04] attorney wilters and we don't
[1:36:05] want to keep him waiting.
[1:36:08] I want to make sure he is fed.
[1:36:11] Thank you for allowing us for
[1:36:14] taking time to spent with our
[1:36:16] junior am bass doors and it's a
[1:36:18] group of juniors and seniors
[1:36:19] here in bay minette and they
[1:36:21] participate in local government
[1:36:23] meetings to learn more about how
[1:36:23] local government runs here at
[1:36:27] the county level and the city
[1:36:27] level.
[1:36:28] In a typical year, they also
[1:36:30] participate in all of our events
[1:36:31] and other programs throughout
[1:36:32] the community to network with
[1:36:33] business leaders, learn about
[1:36:36] local businesses, learn about
[1:36:38] local events and community
[1:36:55] development.
[1:36:58] >> my name is hamilton
[1:36:58] weatherford.
[1:36:59] I'm a senior and this is my
[1:37:01] second year in the program.
[1:37:02] >> Chair Davis: very good.
[1:37:06] >> my name is kenneth and this
[1:37:07] is my second year in the
[1:37:07] program.
[1:37:08] I want to thank y'all for
[1:37:11] allowing us to come to this
[1:37:11] today.
[1:37:16] It's been very eventful and fun.
[1:37:19] >> my name is brady and I'm a
[1:37:20] senior at baldwin county high
[1:37:21] school and this is my second
[1:37:23] year in the program.
[1:37:25] >> my name is blakely norris
[1:37:28] this is my first year as a
[1:37:30] junior ambassador and I'm a
[1:37:30] senior.
[1:37:32] >> I'm emma johnson a junior and
[1:37:34] this is my first year of doing
[1:37:36] junior am bars doors and thank
[1:37:37] you for letting us come.
[1:37:39] >> my name is tyler and I'm a
[1:37:40] senior and this is my second
[1:37:42] year in the program and I want
[1:37:43] to thank y'all for letting us
[1:37:45] see this part of county
[1:37:46] government, I know up until now
[1:37:48] I haven't seen this
[1:37:49] interaction-type place.
[1:37:49] Thank you all.
[1:37:50] >> thank you.
[1:37:52] >> my name is lindsey stewart
[1:37:53] I'm a senior and this is my
[1:37:55] second year in the program and
[1:37:57] that was interesting.
[1:38:00] >> hi, I'm emily scar brow and
[1:38:01] I'm a junior and this is my
[1:38:02] first year in the program.
[1:38:04] Thank you.
[1:38:07] >> my name is andrew guy and I'm
[1:38:10] a junior and this is my irst
[1:39:18] year of junior ambassador.
[1:39:19] >> planning district 12.
[1:39:22] As you can see, to the north,
[1:39:24] the property is on zone b-3 to
[1:39:29] the east and south there is b4
[1:39:38] and it's rsf-3.
[1:39:44] Their plans is to combine that
[1:39:46] parcel with the b-4 for many
[1:39:47] storage.
[1:39:48] You have to have a minute pum of
[1:39:50] three acres for mini storage and
[1:40:01] that parcel only consists of 2.1 acres so they're requiring
[1:40:01] it.
[1:40:06] Here is the crist plan for the
[1:40:07] previous storage unit approved
[1:40:09] to the south and east of the
[1:40:10] subject property.
[1:40:13] They do have access off of
[1:40:18] highway 59 and also off of rolls
[1:40:18] road.
[1:40:20] They did receive a permit from
[1:40:23] the state and county highway
[1:40:25] department.
[1:40:26] prior to today, we only received
[1:40:29] one phone call in opposition.
[1:40:32] I do believe today we received a
[1:40:36] couple of e-mails against and we
[1:40:39] had the lady here during work
[1:40:42] session that was against it.
[1:40:43] Staff recommended approval and
[1:40:46] the planning commission also
[1:40:47] recommended approval at their
[1:40:53] January meeting.
[1:40:54] >> Chair Davis: all right.
[1:40:55] Do we have anyone signed up to
[1:40:56] speak on this topic?
[1:40:58] >> yes, sir.
[1:41:02] We have the applicant.
[1:41:03] >> Chair Davis: if you could
[1:41:03] come forward.
[1:41:05] We limit it to throw
[1:41:11] hree minutes.
[1:41:13] >> tom grain ger.
[1:41:14] I really don't ave a lot to
[1:41:14] add.
[1:41:17] The intent is to combine this
[1:41:18] property with the property to
[1:41:19] the east and the south and it's
[1:41:25] currently b-4 and just expand
[1:41:26] the development we're going to
[1:41:26] do.
[1:41:27] >> Chair Davis: do we have any
[1:41:31] questions or concerns from
[1:41:32] commission?
[1:41:34] >> the lady that was here
[1:41:35] earlier said she was just
[1:41:37] worried about people driving in
[1:41:38] and off of the road.
[1:41:41] That's not your intention to use
[1:41:44] that road primarily, is it?
[1:41:45] >> no.
[1:41:47] We have a turnout permit on
[1:41:50] rolls for the b-4 property
[1:41:50] already in place.
[1:41:52] The intent would be to try to
[1:41:54] use it, we're going to tie in
[1:41:56] the highway 59 through that
[1:41:57] property as well.
[1:41:58] We ould reduce cost.
[1:42:00] The owner would reduce cost if
[1:42:01] he just uses the ccess he
[1:42:02] already has.
[1:42:04] >> thank you.
[1:42:05] >> Chair Davis: any other
[1:42:08] questions or comments from the
[1:42:08] commission?
[1:42:10] >> wayne, o we have anyone
[1:42:10] signed up.
[1:42:12] >> I just wanted to mention we
[1:42:14] did get an e-mail from the
[1:42:15] person who spoke this morning at
[1:42:17] the work session and that is in
[1:42:22] the record as well of her e-mail
[1:42:30] pressing her concerns.
[1:42:31] >> Chair Davis: anybody in the
[1:42:31] audience feel compelled.
[1:42:36] If not, we'll close the public
[1:42:36] hearing.
[1:42:38] >> I make the motion that we
[1:42:40] approve this case number
[1:42:41] recommended by staff.
[1:42:42] >> I'll second the motion.
[1:42:43] >> Chair Davis: we've got a
[1:42:44] motion and a second.
[1:42:47] Any other discussion?
[1:42:49] If not, all in favor signify by
[1:42:51] saying aye.
[1:42:51] Aye.
[1:42:53] Opposed like sign.
[1:42:54] It's unanimous.
[1:42:58] >> the last rezoning is case
[1:43:00] number z-21007.
[1:43:02] This is the ent enterprises
[1:43:05] property rezoning and
[1:43:06] Mrs. Boykin is here
[1:43:08] is here to present
[1:43:09] this case.
[1:43:14] >> to rezone 76 acres from ra to
[1:43:15] rsf-2 single family in order to
[1:43:18] develop a residential
[1:43:18] subdivision.
[1:43:21] The property is located on
[1:43:24] county road 12 south in planning
[1:43:25] district 21.
[1:43:26] As you can see, there's a
[1:43:27] subdivision to the west.
[1:43:31] Which is owned rsf-2.
[1:43:32] The remaining adjacent property
[1:43:36] is zoned ra into the east.
[1:43:40] The subject property is unzoned.
[1:43:42] This property is located in
[1:43:44] foley's etj.
[1:43:47] So, if the rezoning is approved,
[1:43:50] the county would review the
[1:43:51] subdivision in-house and they
[1:43:54] would go to go to oley's
[1:43:57] planning commission for approval
[1:43:58] approval.
[1:44:03] The lots for r sf-2 is a minimum
[1:44:06] of 15,000 square feet with
[1:44:08] 80-foot wide lots.
[1:44:09] The staff recommended approval
[1:44:10] and the planning commission
[1:44:11] recommended approval at their
[1:44:15] February meeting.
[1:44:16] >> we have no one signed up to
[1:44:21] speak on this topic.
[1:44:25] Tom is here as the applicant on
[1:44:28] this case.
[1:44:30] Any questions?
[1:44:30] >> Chair Davis: ok.
[1:44:31] No one else signed up.
[1:44:32] No one has asked or raised their
[1:44:34] hand to speak.
[1:44:37] So at this point, we'll close
[1:44:38] this hearing.
[1:44:40] And now have this particular
[1:44:47] case z-21007 before the ounty
[1:44:47] commission.
[1:44:50] >> I make a motion we approve
[1:44:52] this case z-21007.
[1:44:53] >> 'll second.
[1:44:54] >> Chair Davis: we've got a
[1:44:55] motion and a second.
[1:44:59] Dealing with the case z-21007.
[1:45:01] Any other discussion or
[1:45:03] comments?
[1:45:04] Hearing none, all in favor
[1:45:06] signify by saying aye.
[1:45:07] Aye.
[1:45:08] Opposed like sign.
[1:45:09] It is unanimous.
[1:45:10] Thank you, sir.
[1:45:10] Thank you.
[1:45:11] >> thank you.
[1:45:13] >> next is the committee reports
[1:45:15] and the first one is payment of
[1:45:18] the bills.
[1:45:19] >> yes, sir.
[1:45:22] I make a motion that we pay
[1:45:27] bills totaling
[1:45:28] $13,938,214.30 with the
[1:45:32] exception of those vendors
[1:45:33] requested to be pulled, which
[1:45:35] there are none listed today.
[1:45:41] Of this amount,
[1:45:43] $9,783,658.25 was paid to the
[1:45:46] baldwin county board of
[1:45:50] education and $611,663.74 was
[1:45:53] paid to the gulf shores board of
[1:45:54] education for their portion of
[1:45:56] the county sales and use tax.
[1:45:58] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion
[1:45:59] from commissioner ball, do I
[1:46:00] hear a second.
[1:46:01] >> I'll second the motion.
[1:46:02] >> we have a second.
[1:46:04] Any other discussions or
[1:46:05] comments.
[1:46:06] Hearing none, all in favor
[1:46:08] signify by saying aye.
[1:46:08] Aye.
[1:46:09] It's unanimous.
[1:46:10] Thank you, jeb.
[1:46:12] >> next item is ea-2.
[1:46:15] Notification of interim payments
[1:46:17] approved by the clerk treasurer
[1:46:17] and staff recommendation is to
[1:46:19] make the attached payments made
[1:46:26] by the clerk treasurer totaling
[1:46:28] 2,240,697.76 and make it for the
[1:46:28] record.
[1:46:29] >> Chair Davis: do we have a
[1:46:39] motion to pprove.
[1:46:41] >> we about those and fa-1 will
[1:46:43] be brought back at a subsequent
[1:46:45] meeting and the plaque and
[1:46:47] courthouse and we'll get that
[1:46:51] done with your consent and also,
[1:46:52] efe-1 regarding the grants that
[1:46:54] will be coming back as an item
[1:46:57] at a subsequent meeting.
[1:46:59] >> o we need a motion?
[1:47:02] >> I'll make a motion that we
[1:47:06] approve staff recommendations
[1:47:18] for item number.
[1:47:19] >> it's unanimous.
[1:47:26] >> it brings down to commission
[1:47:26] questions.
[1:47:27] >> I do have any questions?
[1:47:28] >> no.
[1:47:29] >> nor do I.
[1:47:32] >> next are the addendum.
[1:47:35] we have ha-1 regarding the fire
[1:47:37] department, I believe laura has
[1:47:38] looked into this matter and
[1:47:42] laura, do you want to speak to
[1:47:43] that?
[1:47:46] >> I think it's arguable this
[1:47:50] use mayen be allowed under the
[1:47:52] subsection c-1 of the local act
[1:47:54] that creates this tax.
[1:47:58] And even if it doesn't, he
[1:48:01] commission is still can allow it
[1:48:03] as an exception under subsection
[1:48:04] 2.
[1:48:05] Provided that they've gotten the
[1:48:10] fire chief's approval and I
[1:48:11] think they have.
[1:48:13] >> thank you so much.
[1:48:14] Does that mean that we need to
[1:48:15] act on this?
[1:48:17] >> I make a motion we approve
[1:48:19] item ha-1.
[1:48:21] >> I'll second the motion.
[1:48:22] >> so we've got a motion and a
[1:48:24] second on item ha-1.
[1:48:26] Any further discussion?
[1:48:27] Hearing none.
[1:48:30] All in favor signify by saying
[1:48:31] aye.
[1:48:32] Aye.
[1:48:32] Unanimous.
[1:48:35] >> regarding ha-2.
[1:48:37] The federal staff recommended
[1:48:37] approval.
[1:48:39] >> so moved Mr. Chairman.
[1:48:39] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion
[1:48:40] do we have a second.
[1:48:40] >> second.
[1:48:42] >> we have a motion and a second
[1:48:44] on ha-2, all in favor saying
[1:48:45] aye.
[1:48:46] Aye.
[1:48:47] >> unanimous.
[1:48:51] >> next is the add straight
[1:48:51] report.
[1:48:53] I would like to recognize two
[1:48:54] groups of people for the county
[1:48:56] employees if you don't mind.
[1:48:58] First come to the podium.
[1:49:00] Shannon, as you now is the
[1:49:03] director of our citizens service
[1:49:03] center.
[1:49:04] And they take in a lot of calls
[1:49:05] and I want to make everyone
[1:49:07] aware of the work they do.
[1:49:15] In 2020, they received 245,245
[1:49:17] calls all handled and they did a
[1:49:19] great job many of the true story
[1:49:22] regarding those calls is 27% of
[1:49:26] those calls end with them.
[1:49:27] They do get passed around.
[1:49:29] They've done a great job of
[1:49:30] developing this knowledge base
[1:49:32] where when someone calls and ask
[1:49:33] a question, they record the
[1:49:34] question and the answers so
[1:49:36] they're not having to recreate
[1:49:36] answers again.
[1:49:39] I just want to recognize shannon
[1:49:40] and her team for doing an
[1:49:42] incredible job and doing a great
[1:49:44] deal of work and a huge workload
[1:49:47] during the storm, they assisted
[1:49:49] ima with phone calls and did a
[1:49:50] wonderful job and they take
[1:49:52] their job seriously and trying
[1:49:54] to provide great service to
[1:49:55] those people who are calling and
[1:49:57] calling the county that is their
[1:49:58] first impression of the county
[1:49:59] when they call someone.
[1:50:01] If they're getting answers
[1:50:02] quickly and accurately, which
[1:50:05] they do very well, it looks very
[1:50:07] good on the county's behalf.
[1:50:09] I want to recognize her
[1:50:09] publicly.
[1:50:10] And her staff.
[1:50:11] I want to thing them
[1:50:15] thank them very much.
[1:50:16] >> Chair Davis: would you like
[1:50:17] to say something?
[1:50:19] >> I want to tell y'all how much
[1:50:21] I appreciate the focus this
[1:50:24] commission has and this
[1:50:27] administration has on customer
[1:50:28] service and knowing how
[1:50:30] important it is to serve our
[1:50:30] citizens.
[1:50:33] Obviously I did not answer
[1:50:36] 250,000 phone calls in the past
[1:50:36] year.
[1:50:40] I mean, what I do is -- the hard
[1:50:43] work is done by my team in the
[1:50:46] service center or cis helping
[1:50:49] get us the equipment that we
[1:50:49] need.
[1:50:51] Just so many people that
[1:50:54] actually do the really hard
[1:50:54] work.
[1:50:55] It's always nice to be
[1:50:56] recognized.
[1:50:58] I really appreciate it.
[1:51:00] I will say that there has never
[1:51:02] been a ime in my 15 years here
[1:51:05] that I've been more excited to
[1:51:06] come to work everyday and see
[1:51:09] what is going to happen next and
[1:51:13] what we're going to do for our
[1:51:13] customers.
[1:51:14] Thank you.
[1:51:15] >> I was going to thank you so
[1:51:16] much for what you do.
[1:51:18] I want to thank you for llowing
[1:51:20] me to get a taste of your life
[1:51:22] and it's me sitting in that
[1:51:24] chair with the headset on for
[1:51:26] about a good two or three hours.
[1:51:28] I took two or three hundred
[1:51:31] calls for you and it's quite
[1:51:31] entertaining.
[1:51:33] I deal with phone calls all
[1:51:34] daylong.
[1:51:35] You've ot some real nice people
[1:51:36] that call and you've got some
[1:51:38] real not so nice people that
[1:51:38] call.
[1:51:40] One thing that I taught shannon
[1:51:42] and them, I wish we could talk
[1:51:45] to them like you talk to them.
[1:51:47] Sometimes you have to get a
[1:51:49] good, stern voice and they
[1:51:51] always are very nice group of
[1:51:52] people to work with down there
[1:51:54] and that was a humbling
[1:51:56] experience and it made me
[1:51:57] realize exactly what you do now
[1:52:00] many of and I just need to get
[1:52:01] to the other departments.
[1:52:03] Get on a motor grader and do
[1:52:03] some other things.
[1:52:07] try it all-out.
[1:52:07] Garbage trucks.
[1:52:08] Thank you for everything.
[1:52:15] It's been a pleasure.
[1:52:17] >> absolutely.
[1:52:19] I grow with everything he said.
[1:52:20] I didn't answer calls but I
[1:52:21] appreciate the small amount of
[1:52:25] time I did and I think that this
[1:52:27] past year has given us a lot of
[1:52:30] new challenges and you guys did
[1:52:36] an awesome job of tackling those
[1:52:36] head on.
[1:52:40] Not only did we have the
[1:52:41] pandemic, which we're still
[1:52:43] dealing with and we're still
[1:52:44] dealing with clean up.
[1:52:45] We had four states of emergency
[1:52:48] in three of them were valid.
[1:52:49] So, got to know you guys a
[1:52:50] little bit better during all
[1:52:51] that so thank you so much.
[1:52:54] I appreciate you.
[1:52:56] >> thank you.
[1:52:58] >> thank you all very much.
[1:53:00] I don't know people don't
[1:53:05] realize how many calls you take
[1:53:08] and
[1:53:11] move of them are handled and I
[1:53:13] appreciate all the hard work
[1:53:17] staff does.
[1:53:19] Setting back and answering 200
[1:53:23] calls a day or whatever, this is
[1:53:25] a big county and there's a lot
[1:53:26] of people that call.
[1:53:28] Thank you all for doing what do
[1:53:28] you.
[1:53:29] >> thank you.
[1:53:31] And I just realized during your
[1:53:33] four-year term, I guess we
[1:53:35] answered a million hone calls.
[1:53:38] >> you are right.
[1:53:39] >> Chair Davis: there is 229,000
[1:53:41] more that will want to call
[1:53:44] having had somewhat a similar
[1:53:45] experience, I had a guy tell me
[1:53:49] when someone ot a little ut of
[1:53:51] sorts, to ask them, particularly
[1:53:53] if it was a guy talking to a
[1:53:53] guy.
[1:53:54] do you kiss your mother with
[1:53:55] that mouth?
[1:53:58] And t's amazing thousand
[1:54:00] how it might
[1:54:02] change their tone or attitude.
[1:54:03] We appreciate it.
[1:54:07] As I've said before and I'll
[1:54:09] keep saying it, it honors me to
[1:54:11] be a part f a small team that
[1:54:13] gets things done, not just now
[1:54:14] but going forward.
[1:54:15] Convey that to all your people.
[1:54:17] >> I will, I wish they could all
[1:54:19] be here.
[1:54:21] They're busy the day after a
[1:54:21] holiday.
[1:54:24] They all take their jobs very
[1:54:25] seriously and nothing that we
[1:54:29] have thrown at them this year
[1:54:31] has made any of them question
[1:54:32] what they're doing and how much
[1:54:37] they love their job.
[1:54:39] >> I wanted to say out of
[1:54:43] 254,000 calls, only 27% get
[1:54:48] forwarded to someone else.
[1:54:49] >> Chair Davis: I was impressed
[1:54:50] the other way.
[1:54:51] >> we're working on being able
[1:54:54] to end more and more and I plan
[1:54:56] on giving a presentation
[1:55:00] probably at a next work session
[1:55:03] about ome of the things we're
[1:55:07] working on with the building
[1:55:09] department and planning and
[1:55:10] zoning those through my next
[1:55:12] target so we'll sit down and
[1:55:13] spend time together and get to
[1:55:17] know their processes so we can
[1:55:19] end even more calls in our
[1:55:19] center.
[1:55:21] >> Chair Davis: that's getting
[1:55:23] better as we get bigger.
[1:55:24] Thank you.
[1:55:28] >> those alls ending with
[1:55:30] shannon's staff means more
[1:55:30] productivity.
[1:55:31] >> exactly.
[1:55:32] >> the last group I want to
[1:55:33] recognize, I'm sorry it's taking
[1:55:35] so long but these are very
[1:55:38] important is the cis department
[1:55:41] primarily brian peacock, susan
[1:55:42] kilby, kish and grace, they're
[1:55:44] outside, first I want to mention
[1:55:45] kish and grace, they're
[1:55:51] programmers with us, we took
[1:55:52] over the rv park.
[1:55:54] Would you go out and buy that
[1:56:00] system from a vendor, grace and
[1:56:02] kish developed our own program
[1:56:05] where can you go online and book
[1:56:06] your site at the rv site.
[1:56:08] I want to recognize kish and
[1:56:10] grace for the great work on
[1:56:11] create tag site
[1:56:15] creating that site.
[1:56:15] It's been working well.
[1:56:16] Any time you take over something
[1:56:18] new there's bumps in the road
[1:56:20] from other issues but the work
[1:56:22] they did on the reservation
[1:56:23] system as worked flawlessly and
[1:56:25] been good and to have that kind
[1:56:27] of knowledge and ability on our
[1:56:28] staff, is phenomenal.
[1:56:31] We don't have to go ut and hire
[1:56:33] a vendor that will charge us
[1:56:34] double.
[1:56:35] I want to recognize them.
[1:56:38] Thank you very much.
[1:56:41] And also, brian and suzanne have
[1:56:42] been a huge help with the rv
[1:56:44] park because they've been
[1:56:45] assisting us in helping get that
[1:56:46] up and running.
[1:56:48] Susan has been great.
[1:56:49] She's new to brian's team and
[1:56:52] brian has been awesome as well
[1:56:53] and as a matter of fact we have
[1:56:56] trash cannes and brian came and
[1:56:57] got trash cans from his office
[1:56:58] and brought it out to the rv
[1:57:00] park and the bathrooms there.
[1:57:05] I want to publicly them for will
[1:57:07] them and getting it to be the
[1:57:08] best it can be.
[1:57:09] Wore fortunate the commission
[1:57:11] chose to move forward with some
[1:57:13] projects and we're excite beside
[1:57:13] that.
[1:57:15] with people like this on our
[1:57:16] team, I think there's nothing we
[1:57:17] can't accomplish out there or
[1:57:19] anywhere else in the county
[1:57:20] because they've cup a
[1:57:24] done a
[1:57:26] phenomenal job.
[1:57:28] >> Chair Davis: come up.
[1:57:31] Each of y'all, we welcome you to
[1:57:32] make a comment.
[1:57:33] You can jab at the boss and
[1:57:39] we'll be back up.
[1:57:41] >> I just female blessed
[1:57:44] feel blessed and
[1:57:45] thankful.
[1:57:47] I'm proud I'm part of the
[1:57:48] department and baldwin county
[1:57:48] commission.
[1:57:50] I believe that with great
[1:57:52] leadership, good camaraderie and
[1:57:54] all your peer and keeping high
[1:57:54] -
[1:57:57] moral within your team is the
[1:57:58] key to efficient and great
[1:57:59] workman ships.
[1:58:02] That's why we produce this great
[1:58:04] apps that help people.
[1:58:07] I'm just very grateful I'm given
[1:58:10] the opportunity to serve baldwin
[1:58:11] county.
[1:58:12] Under good leadership.
[1:58:14] You guys and brian.
[1:58:15] >> thank you.
[1:58:16] >> Chair Davis: well said.
[1:58:18] >> who is ext.
[1:58:26] >> I just want to say thank you.
[1:58:27] I'm thankful to be a part of
[1:58:28] team cis.
[1:58:31] >> thank you.
[1:58:35] >> I would like to thank
[1:58:35] everybody.
[1:58:36] Special will he my
[1:58:39] especially my director and
[1:58:41] manager for getting me on this
[1:58:41] project.
[1:58:46] I would like to thank you all.
[1:58:49] >> thank you.
[1:58:50] >> Chair Davis: all right, boss.
[1:58:50] Talk to us.
[1:58:53] >> what more is there to say.
[1:58:56] this epresents three of a
[1:58:57] fantastic team.
[1:58:58] They're all looking to make
[1:59:00] things better in everything they
[1:59:00] put their hands on.
[1:59:02] With every project we're
[1:59:06] assigned and every quarter that
[1:59:07] we have flowed through our
[1:59:08] department, they do their best.
[1:59:10] I couldn't be more proud to work
[1:59:12] side by side with them on
[1:59:14] everything we do.
[1:59:15] >> Chair Davis: I think it goes
[1:59:17] without saying too, if there's
[1:59:19] ever a department that is
[1:59:19] subject to things changing
[1:59:22] almost daily or weekly or
[1:59:25] monthly or certainly in annan an
[1:59:27] annual term, it's y'all's area
[1:59:28] and to jump in there and look
[1:59:30] for the best way to do it, I
[1:59:31] have two more phones that I know
[1:59:33] how to operate.
[1:59:35] Knowing that we have got y'all
[1:59:39] handling things for us, the
[1:59:42] citizens, know that handled
[1:59:42] well.
[1:59:44] You are a group of doers and I
[1:59:46] think baldwin county is made up
[1:59:49] of staff and volunteers that are
[1:59:50] doers, it's not about credit and
[1:59:52] all that kind of stuff, r
[1:59:54] blame, it's about being doer and
[1:59:56] we want to tell you how much we
[1:59:56] appreciate you.
[1:59:57] Thank you, ery much.
[2:00:02] >> thank you, all.
[2:00:04] >> I just want to extend off
[2:00:07] that and brian, when we were
[2:00:08] struggle ing where we were going
[2:00:10] to go next with live oak, you
[2:00:11] pretty much stepped up and said
[2:00:14] I can do it.
[2:00:17] With you and wayne's
[2:00:18] partnership, and doing some
[2:00:20] restaffing and ome row
[2:00:21] regrouping
[2:00:22] out there, I look forward to
[2:00:26] that being one of the biggest
[2:00:26] and greatest things for north
[2:00:28] baldwin county and this whole
[2:00:29] entire county.
[2:00:32] Based on the ease of services,
[2:00:34] and the convenience of what
[2:00:36] you've made this, we're going to
[2:00:39] be over booked.
[2:00:40] That's my hope.
[2:00:42] I'm looking forward to great
[2:00:45] things to come to live oak and
[2:00:46] thank you for your leadership
[2:00:48] and making this basically dream
[2:00:51] become a reality because it's
[2:00:54] been a long time coming for
[2:00:55] this.
[2:00:55] Thank ou.
[2:01:10] >> thank you, wayne.
[2:01:13] >> I visited your definitely,
[2:01:15] wore interested if you go this
[2:01:17] direction, with letting the
[2:01:20] county manage it, look what
[2:01:22] we've done.
[2:01:24] I was like, you are almost ready
[2:01:24] already.
[2:01:26] I take it that y'all really
[2:01:27] wanted to see and have the
[2:01:28] opportunity and I remember
[2:01:30] saying just give me a chance and
[2:01:32] we can o this and I was like
[2:01:33] well, I'm still doing research
[2:01:34] to determine what direction.
[2:01:37] It was like, you guys wanted to
[2:01:38] do this so much and it was like,
[2:01:40] it shows and how it's working so
[2:01:42] well and so I really appreciate
[2:01:43] that because it's not good to be
[2:01:45] given a task that you don't
[2:01:46] really believe in either so it's
[2:01:49] t sounds like you believe in
[2:01:50] this task and your work shows
[2:01:51] and thank you for the apps.
[2:01:53] I know when I first got elected,
[2:01:56] I really wanted an app and so
[2:01:58] did the rest of them.
[2:02:01] Not only have I got one I have a
[2:02:03] whole folder of baldwin county
[2:02:05] apps and it's just good.
[2:02:06] I don't get to see you guys as
[2:02:09] much as I do brian.
[2:02:11] You help us so uch.
[2:02:14] I know it's not just me.
[2:02:15] hopefully I'm not the only one
[2:02:17] that bugs y'all.
[2:02:17] If I am I am sorry.
[2:02:19] Thank you so much for
[2:02:21] everything.
[2:02:22] Shirley joe he has two phones he
[2:02:26] do know how to use he says.
[2:02:27] I'm not the only one.
[2:02:29] You've come to my rescue.
[2:02:30] Brian is our contact person.
[2:02:35] I know that you are the wind
[2:02:36] beneath his wings.
[2:02:39] >> thank you all very much.
[2:02:41] Creating an app as think it's
[2:02:46] put a lot of time and energy
[2:02:48] into uilding that app for the
[2:02:48] live oak.
[2:02:51] Not only that but several other
[2:02:55] ones that you have developed.
[2:02:58] It's great to have a team that
[2:03:02] can do that without us centering centering
[2:03:03] go
[2:03:05] centeringgo out
[2:03:10] -- it'shomegrown and it makes
[2:03:12] makes it
[2:03:13] special.
[2:03:16] Thank you for what you do.
[2:03:17] >> and I'm sure that you will
[2:03:21] have projects that we don't know
[2:03:22] about yet.
[2:03:23] We May have problems we node
[2:03:23] help with.
[2:03:25] Thank you for being a great part
[2:03:26] of the team.
[2:03:29] All of you.
[2:03:30] Thank you.
[2:03:32] >> that's all I have next is the
[2:03:33] county attorney's report.
[2:03:34] >> all right.
[2:03:37] >> there's no report.
[2:03:37] >>
[2:03:38] >> Chair Davis: all right.
[2:03:39] Public comments.
[2:03:40] Do we have anyone from the
[2:03:43] public that has been able to
[2:03:44] stay here until 12:10.
[2:03:45] We don't.
[2:03:46] What about the press?
[2:03:47] I don't believe I see anybody
[2:03:52] from the press here.
[2:03:52] commission comments.
[2:03:56] >> I'd like to start off with we
[2:04:02] have another one of ur people
[2:04:09] that served ur community, frank
[2:04:15] served on the baldwin county
[2:04:17] water district 4 and he passed
[2:04:19] away yesterday afternoon.
[2:04:21] He was also an educator for
[2:04:24] many, many years with the school
[2:04:24] system.
[2:04:27] He was a great mentor for a lot
[2:04:28] of kids.
[2:04:31] And he is definitely going to be
[2:04:31] missed.
[2:04:40] He is on several boards.
[2:04:41] He would do anything co and he
[2:04:45] will be missed on what to send
[2:04:46] my could be dollances to his
[2:04:57] family and loved ones.
[2:04:58] >> Chair Davis: billie joe.
[2:04:59] >> I want to thank everybody.
[2:05:01] Wore still struggling through
[2:05:02] all the things that's going on.
[2:05:05] I feel like that we're -- it's
[2:05:08] the beginning of the ending of
[2:05:08] all of this.
[2:05:11] When it comes to the covid and
[2:05:13] all that, I'm hoping we'll start
[2:05:14] seeing ome of that light at the
[2:05:14] end of the tunnel.
[2:05:16] Thank you, staff for all you do
[2:05:17] for us.
[2:05:20] Thank you my colleagues for what
[2:05:24] y'all do too.
[2:05:25] >> I'm just as well as another
[2:05:27] two, I'm thankful for hat the
[2:05:28] staff does.
[2:05:30] Everybody from the top to the
[2:05:30] bottom.
[2:05:32] I appreciate everything that
[2:05:32] they do.
[2:05:34] It's great to see that our
[2:05:37] highway and engineers back and
[2:05:37] in spite of
[2:05:40] in spite of all his tragedy and
[2:05:42] yet he is still going through
[2:05:44] them and shows up for work.
[2:05:47] It just goes to show you what we
[2:05:49] have working for us and the
[2:05:51] caliber of people who we get to
[2:05:54] work ith every single day.
[2:05:59] It's not that we get to work
[2:06:01] through these people and it's a
[2:06:02] humbling experience and great
[2:06:05] honor to be up here today.
[2:06:07] I just enjoy every inute of
[2:06:09] this job and working with each
[2:06:11] of y'all up here on this stage
[2:06:12] as well as all the people down
[2:06:13] there.
[2:06:20] I thank you.
[2:06:21] >> Chair Davis: obviously, thank
[2:06:23] you sounds hollow but it's not.
[2:06:24] We've all aid it and every one
[2:06:27] of you in this rom and those
[2:06:28] that aren't here that are part
[2:06:33] of the team, we are a good team
[2:06:35] and we don't want y'all to think
[2:06:39] when it's over we go prancing
[2:06:40] home and we have other meetings
[2:06:46] wore going to be meeting with
[2:06:48] members at 1:30 and talk about
[2:06:52] broadband at 3:00 so know while
[2:06:53] you are working hard to make
[2:06:54] sure things happen the way they
[2:06:56] need to happen in your
[2:06:57] department, wore also aggressive
[2:06:59] about getting bots on the ground
[2:07:00] and getting information and
[2:07:02] getting around the table to talk
[2:07:04] about things that will make a
[2:07:07] difference in all our lives.
[2:07:09] So, wayne, thank you to you and
[2:07:12] all the staff.
[2:07:14] Let's do, he stepped out but
[2:07:17] let's do keep joey nunnally in
[2:07:18] our minds and hearts because of
[2:07:20] sort of things this have
[2:07:22] happened in his personal family
[2:07:23] connections, are taxing.
[2:07:25] Wove all been through it.
[2:07:27] We'll all have it to do it at
[2:07:28] various times.
[2:07:30] We need to be mindful and not
[2:07:33] only is he handling that, as a
[2:07:35] good son, would handle it, but
[2:07:38] he is also handling his job.
[2:07:40] It takes all of us pulling
[2:07:41] together so when you get a
[2:07:42] chance, give him a little pat on
[2:07:45] the shoulder or a little at a
[2:07:48] boy or at a girl because it
[2:07:48] matters.
[2:07:49] And that's what makes us unique.
[2:07:53] This is eye county that is
[2:07:53] unique.
[2:07:55] We do have to apologize, we're
[2:07:56] not any better than anybody.
[2:08:00] We're as good as everybody.
[2:08:02] And it's because you people make
[2:08:04] things happen and I'm tickled
[2:08:08] and honors to be a small art of
[2:08:08] that.
[2:08:09] Let's get about our business and
[2:08:10] we'll meet again, is that right.
[2:08:13] >> I make a motion we adjourn.
[2:08:14] >> before that, is there anyway
[2:08:16] we can get a meeting set up with
[2:08:19] our legislate to
[2:08:19] to
[2:08:22] legislature to talk about
[2:08:25] bills up there in montgomery to
[2:08:26] discuss some of those things.
[2:08:27] If we can set that up somehow.
[2:08:29] >> we need to get with martin
[2:08:30] and he can probably et that up.
[2:08:31] >> yeah.
[2:08:32] >> martin christie would be able
[2:08:34] to set that up for us.
[2:08:36] >> martin christie would be a
[2:08:36] good one.
[2:08:37] >> like to set up some of these
[2:08:39] bills that are there up and I
[2:08:40] got some questions on them, you
[2:08:40] know.
[2:08:41] >> oh, sure,.
[2:08:43] >> if you are phone has been
[2:08:44] lighting up like mine and people
[2:08:46] on both sides of the topic as
[2:08:47] well.
[2:08:47] >> ok.
[2:08:48] >> if we can do that.
[2:08:50] >> we'll be glad to work on that
[2:08:51] and we'll do it as quickly as we
[2:08:51] can.
[2:08:54] >> I would suggest reaching out
[2:08:55] to cliff Mccullough as well
[2:08:58] because it's a matter of
[2:08:59] scheduling where we are and who
[2:09:00] we are and.
[2:09:02] >> they're in session now, so e.
[2:09:04] Yeah, it's going to be tough.
[2:09:05] It May have to be until the they
[2:09:06] get out of session but they're
[2:09:07] in session right now.
[2:09:09] >> but, again, thursday evening
[2:09:11] and friday, kind of meeting
[2:09:13] might be able to occur but, I
[2:09:14] grow with
[2:09:18] agree with skip, we have things
[2:09:21] we need a voice in and the
[2:09:22] sooner we can express our
[2:09:25] thoughts, the better we can move
[2:09:25] things forward.
[2:09:26] >> there's a motion on the table
[2:09:28] to adjourn.
[2:09:28] >> Chair Davis: yes, we have a
[2:09:30] motion, do we have a second.
[2:09:34] >> I'll second.
[2:09:34] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion
[2:09:34] and a second.
[2:09:35] All in favor signify by saying
[2:09:36] aye.
[2:09:36] Aye.
[2:09:37] >> we're out of here, thank you.