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The four frag city council meets concurrently as the four frag municipal improvement district number one, and the four frag redevelopment successor agency.

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Let's all please stand for the pledge.

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right, thank you so much. Madam Clerk, could you please take roll.

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Peters.

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Thank you.

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We did have a close session.

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There was no reportable action taken under a gender review.

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We are pulling item 5H from the consent calendar.

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So 5H has been pulled from the agenda.

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Under mayor's recognitions and announcements, we do have one this evening.

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the introduction of the city's emergency management program volunteers have to know Neil could you

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take a send of that.

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So I am joined tonight by Dr Leslie Cron Gold. She was the only volunteer that I get here present.

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My other three will introduce more formally here in a moment or out of town.

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I will be brief. I know you have a full agenda tonight. We've actually moved this. I think this is the third time

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And I thought it was important to get these individuals recognized.

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So the EMPV program, emergency management program volunteers, where did it come from?

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It comes right out of your strategic plan, city manager whipping in the city of Fort

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Brad continue to make disaster preparedness, community resilience, and emergency management

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a top priority.

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And one of the things we talked about was how do we make our community more resilience?

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I can tell you after working with multiple departments in this city, there's not a staff

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member that's got an extra ounce left right now.

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their capacity. So we met as a team, myself, Isaac and Chief, trying to figure out how

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could we create some force multipliers in this. And so we look back to that strategic plan.

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And we said, well, seven B says volunteerism that we're going to try to get people on our community,

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the wrongs from glass beach, the bike backs, to clear the roads that are passionate about

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keeping our communities safe and keeping them fulfilled. And we're going to try to enlist them.

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And I'll be honest, there was some nice say, as I said, there's no way we're going to get people

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to come to free volunteer workforce. I will tell you that this program's been going for

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three months now, and it absolutely has been a force multiplier for me, and getting a emergency management

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project done. So what it was is we basically went out for applications. We asked the community

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members to submit what their background was, and then they did a 300 word essay on what program

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they would like to bring immediately to the city if they thought they could within six months.

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I was going to be happy if I got one applicant. I got five amazing applicants.

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And one of the news parts about it is that none of them agree with me.

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I've already had some disagreements with them, and that's the point of the whole community

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concepts to make sure that we're hearing from all voices.

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The program details are all volunteers.

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They basically, what they do is a research and review plans from other cities,

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other programs that are already working well.

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And really, honestly, they're just, and I hate to say, we're a think tank of nerds,

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where we sit around and we have funds talking about emergency management,

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where this is where this is going. They have no decision making authority. Outside of our conference

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in the room and talking and then I bring those ideas back to the emergency director Isaac to make

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the final decisions. So who are they? So I had five total. You see four listed here. One of them

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was council member Alvin Smith. Unfortunately, after much review, I think she would have been a great

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member to join the team. It was hard for her to work for me and we worked for her, created a sick

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thing. I'm sure she will continue to be involved. Dr. Leslie Crongold, who's next to me,

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served on the CIRC team in Alameda County, Red Cross in the East Bay, and she currently runs

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Surfwood Prepared, which is kind of the model project right now for the coasts for communities,

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so the surfwood community does surfwood prepare, they have meetings, they go over, they learn things

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together, and they basically pass information. She's also got experience strangely enough with our

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for management emergency management software BOC, which she used down in Alameda.

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Teresa Scar, who's not here tonight, I believe she is out visiting her daughter.

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She's retired from medical device regulatory field, where she assisted with new medical devices

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came out on the market. She worked to get them into the market, so kind of a mix of all.

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She assisted with the emergency management program in Metatronics and Santa Rosa, and she

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is a previous experience of writing emergency plans. Mary Rose Kay, who we're all familiar with,

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City of Berkeley office of emergency services and cert team. She's a journalist. She serves on various different committees public policy think tanks and conferences right now

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She's at the United Nation Commission on the status of women in New York so she could not be here.

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Lori Star who also could not be here because she's working in the emergency room tonight volunteers with the Albion little river fire department

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Worked on our ambulances and EMT and currently works in emergency room so that's that's our team right now

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Um, I wanted to bring them before you will quick and with just a couple minutes each, um,

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probably less than that to go over their initial projects. The EOP executive summary to

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reasons working on taking that EOP and bringing it down. You're going to see a short video.

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But for her work on that, Laurie's working on a feasibility study of airing ground and water

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transportation following emergency. Mary Rose, uh, doing some stuff with tourists, populations.

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You see some of that in her video. Um, Leslie here is developing an effective median stakeholder plan

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for marginalized communities,

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and she's working with me on access and functional needs,

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which is a requirement.

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Teresa's already tore up my emergency management website

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and told me how out of date it was,

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and she has built a plan on how to fix it

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or waiting on the new one.

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which is another one of her passions.

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She's gonna help me with, let's see,

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we have new volume.

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It's okay, we don't.

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I can't remember my two videos.

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And if not, we'll skip it, because I know you're a virgin, and I want to get bless you a little bit of time.

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So why we're waiting on that?

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I'm going to pass this off to Lesley.

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She's going to talk a little bit about her project.

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She's working on right now.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Well, I have seen that.

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I became involved in disaster preparedness, how three years ago when I moved down MEDAS,

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when I first purchased the home and called in the DMV, I was diagnosed with a drug

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or muscular condition at that time, and it became important for me to figure myself in the

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and I'll find a house that has been down in New Zealand.

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As a chair of,

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I'll show you some of the doctors.

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So, moving up here for years ago,

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as soon as the situation was deciding the difference

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in Alabama and the need for it.

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and community resilience was more important.

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So, I'm about to engage with the diverse groups of here

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representing the whole community approach.

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To understand the necessity of our citizens,

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our community, and the small ones,

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they call their meetings with state states,

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And maybe you're going to say things as well as involving vulnerable citizens like myself

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who have some kind of ability, talent, and those from the large numbers we have on

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the coast, as well as people living with product health condition as you need to access requirements.

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My main role as a volunteer in the program will be creating and not being tested

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due to media campaigns, and I encourage everything from the following day in the messaging

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for a social media for some things for YouTube videos and webinars all on the way to

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I think the posters are really being here posted on the boards all around the town.

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I think we really have that amount of data.

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That is not as much as a view of what there is as it is here.

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But they go along a bit.

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It's really the power of citizens being so sufficient in those communities and the emerging communities.

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And we'll post the other two videos on social media as part of the media campaigns to come out for this.

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I want to give a genuine heartfelt thank you to each of you. I've been coming before you for two years.

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I told you last year that this year we were getting on to the micro part where we were going to start preparing individuals.

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And it's got to keep having these conversations.

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Thank you City Manager, Whippy, for allowing us to come up here and for supporting us and doing all this.

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Thanks so much to both of you for being here to present.

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Really appreciate it.

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Okay, then at this time, I would like to invite public comment on non-agenda items, anyone in the room

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I'd like to speak on a non-agenda item.

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welcome.

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Good evening, Council members, staff, and the public.

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I'm so pleased to be here once again.

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My name is Marcie Snyder, and I'm a resident of Fort Brake.

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And I'm here to talk about our roadside attraction that owns the land out there,

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that approximately 272 acres is called the Stone Train. It's an old industrial

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mill site, it's zoned industrial.

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It's been an industrial mill site for approximately 150 years.

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The contamination of that site is extensive, there are PCBs, dioxins, petrochemicals,

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estesters, and more, and various locations, and some of it very extensive

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center out there, or a nursing home, it will not be allowed.

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The groundwater is also contaminated.

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It's very contaminated, and the use of the water, of the water, out on that old industrial

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site, the use of it is prohibited by law, by state law. You cannot use that water. So any water

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That goes out to that site, will come from, it will be piped in from the city, whatever those plans are, which means that piping will be paid for by the citizens, by the residents, by the visitors who come to our community, is going to be paid for by taxpayer dollars.

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This is huge. It's one thing that when the development plan was brought forth, or it was not addressed,

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was the extent of the toxins out there. And people have talked about cleanup. There has been some remediation.

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It's impossible to clean up all that stuff. It's just plain impossible.

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So you will be hearing more about this in the future from various people.

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I'm not the only one.

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I really hope that you will really think about this.

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This is an old industrial site, and it's poisoned.

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It's not suitable for habitation,

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and it's not suitable for schools.

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It's not suitable for the elderly to live there long term.

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So once again, thank you very much.

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And I hope you have a very productive meeting this evening.

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And thank you so much to the public.

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All right. Thank you. Other speakers on non agenda items.

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Hi, yes, it's Jacob Anderson. I wasn't going to speak on this but I wanted after

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Marcie's comments to say in general, it's my understanding that it's not the

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taxpayers who would pay for the infrastructure but the developers of the land.

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Generally, that's how it works. If you want to put new development and new

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streets in water, lines, new streets, lights and things that whoever

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owns the land in a stranger development pays for it rather than the general community.

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Just because I just want to make sure people are working on unbiased and accurate information.

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However, I've been used to being a stunk train advocate or whatever and I'm not, I don't speak for them in any way.

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I'm just wanted to make sure that people are working off of accurate information rather than what some people assume is the case.

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All right, thank you.

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All right, Madam Court, can I one on one?

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Please use the raise hand feature for public comment on non-agenda items.

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Good evening. My name is Henry Weibo. I understand with a lot of staff and changes at CIT-

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The hall, some things aren't working as smoothly as they could. I am concerned that a lot of people

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who in the past subscribe to getting invitations to city council meetings and planning

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commission meetings and people who've signed up for all kinds of other subjects of their

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interest are not being informed, unless they sign up again. Somehow a glitch happens, this

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is the third time now that I have to sign up again, and this is, I've been sign up for

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most of the issues I'm interested in since around 2015. So if you can make that clear

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to the public that they need to sign up again if they are not receiving any information.

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Also, for one of the items for tonight, it was brought to the attention to you, it's a consent calendar item by Jacob Patterson, that what is labeled this in the staff report as a gender item number 6A is actually 7B.

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it would be nice for the public to know by when they should submit comments so they

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posted online for an item if they submitted let's say on a Friday before 5 and they want

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to know when it will be posted I understand it for tonight's meeting it got posted around

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to a clock that it's good to know for the public when this is posted also it wouldn't be nice to

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have invitations and be able to make comments and already have the agenda earlier on.

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I think I only read the agenda for tonight's meeting by Friday.

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That doesn't give the public a lot of time to get ready.

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So, it would be nice for the public to be kept abreast of how the city deals with things and I know with staff changes it's been a little rocky in the past.

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Thanks for accepting my input.

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Thank you, other comments online.

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I'm Lana Genda.

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Andrew Jordan, you have three minutes.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes. Great. Yeah, there's no time or up and there wasn't for endary either. I have basically

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three things I'd like to mention. First of all, I've been enjoying the weather by walking

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out in about the city, which is one of the great pleasures of living here. And I've noticed

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that the sidewalks are being maintained very well with regards to finding changes in elevation

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or tow gravers that are being ground down and I'm now seeing the grinding marks on the sidewalks

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and so I really appreciate public maintenance handling that. I think it really adds to

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the city and prevents injury, which is nice not to have the lawsuits accompanying that.

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The second thing I have, a three, is basically several times at least twice,

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But a more occasion that I've occurred in the past, basically with trash cans, down in the business district, get full on the weekends.

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And they're not being emptied, and if tourism and attracting visitors to the town is important, I think that those should be checked and monitored so that it isn't the detraction from the pleasant appearance of the city.

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and third on Facebook, and I filled out a survey on this, basically whether or not

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an ocular she'd go on the coastal trail, and I think that's a great idea, but I just

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think it's going to end up like the bike repair station at the older street bathrooms there

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by the mill pond. I think it's going to be destroyed and vandalized in pretty short order.

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But the real advantage, having something like that is, first of all, of course, when the whales

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go by and seeing the spouts off the coast, it's really a treat, and today I saw something very

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unique because kind of down by, I forget the rock that sticks out, but it's kind of over

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by the water treatment plant and the crows nest over there of the neocenter.

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Instead of being on the table rock out there, the sea lions were just floating in the water,

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kind of in a raft and barking, and then some of them were just playing in the waves.

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Having some sort of binoculars to see that, so that people could look at it up close,

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would really be, I think, an asset and would really complement the coastal trail, and I think

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the City Council very much for listening and fielding landmarks. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Jamie Martin, you have three minutes.

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Thank you, good evening. Council members and staff.

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I just wanted to update you on 575 South Whipple Street.

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I have seen some pictures of the modular for James Lindsay that's been placed there.

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We're in contact every week, and he's just waiting, I believe, for the city water and sewer hookups, and then they've got a fixie and tree way.

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And do some more work, but the modular has been placed, and he is looking forward to being able to move back in there with his stepdad.

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He just had a birthday this last weekend.

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I just, he's concerned he's not going to be able to afford it because of all the time that

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it's taken to have the receivership followed through with his promise of getting the modular

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ready for him.

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So, but if you drive by, you'll see it.

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It looks nice.

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I saw some pictures of the inside that were taken by his good friend, Dr. Saps, and James's

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is not allowed on the property yet, but he is anxious to get back there and he's gonna need some

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things to furnish it. That's for sure because a lot of his things were left behind and removed

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when the house was demolished. So I just wanted to update you and let you know that it's in the

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But it's going to be up to the city that's figure out her and him and the receiver how he can actually take possession of it again.

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So, because it's going to increase his cost a lot. His property tax are going to go up because of the improvements.

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He already had water and sewer there and he's got to have that reestablished.

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Anyway, so thank you.

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Okay, thank you for the comments.

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Who hands?

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Then I would invite any public comments on the consent calendar.

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I get Jason, it's Jacob Patterson again.

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You said you hold five H from the agenda.

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I assume in part because of my written public comment about it.

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But I'm not quite sure why.

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They're pretty easy fixes.

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In my eyes as I mean guys, they're just pull it for discussion.

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to make some amendments, which is still my recommendation still something you guys can do. Thanks.

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All right. Thank you. Any other comments on the concept, Calder?

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All right.

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But online, but new hands. Okay. All right. We already took close session comments.

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And that would take us to staff comments. That's really. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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I just wanted to announce to the public and the council that Cal Fire and the state fire

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Marshall did release the City of Fort Brakes Fire has a severity zone.

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This is available on the city's website, so city.fortbrake.com.

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As required by government code, we must adopt an ordinance designated areas within our jurisdiction

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as either moderate or very high fire hazard within 120 days of receiving the state fires

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Marshall's recommendation so just wanted to mention that we are invite in public comment

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the public comment period will be closing on April 25th so again the maps are available on the

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city's website for public comment. Secondly we do have the business roundtable which is going to be

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at City Hall or tunnel on the second of April. So this come in Wednesday, a business from

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table here at tunnel. And that's it for staff comments, Mr. Mayor. Okay, thanks so much.

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That will take us to matters from council members. How's my repeaters?

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I'll keep it short. The fire protection authority does me tomorrow evening. If anyone's interested

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at the Firehouse right next door there we meet at I have a clock.

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I met with Jill Rex Road at the Fort Bragg Senior Center last week.

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I was concerned like many of you may be concerned about the senior center losing funding

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from the federal government that allowed them to continue with their lunches, their popular

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senior lunches.

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For a lot of the seniors in our community, that's their only social activity.

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They really look forward to it and seeing others.

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But I was told that the, I forget the exact name of the federal act,

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American, older Americans act or anyway the funding will be continued for now.

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Things look okay, the lunches are still on.

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There was a social media rumor that the lunches had discontinued on March 14th.

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They have not discontinued. They are serving lunches up there for seniors.

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and it's a great program. I was just concerned there are several other agencies that help

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the poor and needy and elderly in our community that rely on federal funding that have been

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threatened. We're all communities, I think, really need to look out for themselves in this

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situation right now and at least according to our director, Joe retro at our senior center seems to

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okay, they certainly are always going to look for more funding.

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The funding is good for now, but how long it's going to be secure for.

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We don't know.

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It's such a valuable asset to Fort Bragg, our senior center.

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We really must rally together if, in fact, federal funding gets cut in any way shape or form.

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So things seem to be okay right now.

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Just seem to feel okay about the situation, which is extremely concerned about the future.

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Maybe not the immediate future, but the future, which seems to get here

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quicker than we realize sometimes. So at least feel secure for now that our senior centers and good hands and the funding is okay and secure and that our lunches will continue.

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But let's keep our eye on that on the senior center. Make sure that they continue to be viable source for our community. So that's all I have.

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Thank you so much. Council member.

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Okay. Council member. All right.

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He has no comments.

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Oh, I see.

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Yeah.

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We had a well run.

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We can before last.

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And you may have noticed something like 600 runners, plus walking around with their

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Bibs and their sweaty clothes.

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That was a really exciting event.

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We also had downtown.

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We had the well festival, which had charter tasting and rotary had a beer tasting.

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I think there was a wide walk, there were whale viewing on the headlands and whale interpretation

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and did they actually do a campfire? I'm not sure. Now they talked about a campfire but

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anyway it was an exciting event next year's will be on the second weekend but it's still

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the middle of March and the way the calendar works. So that was really exciting.

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I've shown Smith here, Ram, a half marathon, and I'm sure a lot of you are pretty excited.

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Oh, I know, talk to him back there, you ran, and several of you in the audience probably did to you.

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Just let you know that MTA is having their meeting at Thursday at 1.30. If you have a combat or you need more buses

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or have a, would like to, what they call, and that needs, you can come in person to the office

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at Elm Street down the way there, 130, and you'll be on first. And then so I have.

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All right, thanks so much, Vice Mayor.

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I just recently went on a tour with Chris Hart behind the Melcetta a little bit. I went and

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in the garage where they work on the trains, where they're building a rail train bathroom

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first of this kind. I've seen the dry shed where I know they store supplies for various

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businesses in town and I've seen the daylight where the carnivals held. I just seen a different view

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of the coastal trail, also of the bed grass and very briars. I'm going to see where PG&E is

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older staging when they're out there. So it was very eye-opening out there and also I learned

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that Mendocino Railway and you've a city. I remember as a kid and even now you don't want

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get stuck at the railroad crossing, because there's a train with 40, 50, I...

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So we can always count boxcars going by. So that's Chris Hart and minutes, you know, Rayway, I didn't know that. So that was it. Thank you.

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All right, thank you. I myself, I wanted to acknowledge the recent transfer of $100,000 from the

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and a, you know, Coast Recreation and Park District to the C.V. Star.

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This generous gift comes from Jack B. Thomas and Mary W. Thomas, who contributed $100,000

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to the Thomas Trust, established in 1992. At that time, the Thomases were well aware of

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the district's goal of building the Star Center. Mr. Thomas was a regular swimmer at the

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Old Recreation Gym pool and remained an active member of the Star Center until his passing

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in 2019. We want to thank the district for their continued commitment to honoring the

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legacy of community members like the Thomas's and for their dedication to the Star Center's

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mission.

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And I highly fell asleep, did you want to say a couple words?

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Yeah, come on up.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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I'm here to read a statement from our chair, Mr. Dave Schbock, who's very sorry he couldn't

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be here.

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And I'm Kylie Felicit with MCRPD, I'm the General Manager.

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The transfer of $100,000 from the District's Aquatics Reserve Fund to the city is a note

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the milestone in several respects. One, the district has successfully carried out a steadfast

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commitment to honoring the intent of the generous Thomas revocable living trust donation

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by protecting the funds in a dedicated reserve account and by ensuring the city will place

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the entire amount in an account earmarked exclusively for the CB Star Aquatic Center.

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2. The district in the city have successfully completed the full transfer of ownership, management, and operation of the aquatic center to the city.

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3. The district in the city are harnessing their complementary strengths and supportive cooperation to build a robust partnership for delivering valuable accessible and affordable recreational services to city residents and visitors.

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Dave says he appreciates the City Council's dedication to community service and he is

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grateful to the City Manager for his constant support of leadership toward continuing success

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for the CB Star Aquatic Center and on behalf of MCRPD, thank you to the City.

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All right. Thank you. Okay, so that will take us to the consent calendar. Remember, we've pulled

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five H, or there are any other items with questions or concerns.

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If there are none, I'll go ahead and make a motion.

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We accept the consent calendar as amended, removing item five H for further discussion.

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Second,

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we have a first by Council Member Peter, second by the vice mayor.

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Peters?

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Pocket?

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Yes.

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Oppencent?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And just to clarify, we're putting that item off until another meeting.

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Right.

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That takes us to item number six, disclosure of expert take communications on agenda items.

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Colleagues, any expert take communications you'd like to disclose.

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No, I just went out yesterday and walked the proposed site that we're going to talk about here.

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But I didn't talk to anybody out there.

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I did watch also the planning commission meeting on this item.

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Just sort of a way to know, so I heard all the testimony on all the most planning

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commissioners and the public's comments at that particular meeting.

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I did watch that, so they did, I think, to schools both of those.

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Thanks so much.

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Thanks for acknowledging anybody else.

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I also watched some of the planning commission meeting, not all of it.

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So, and aware, that's some stuff also.

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All right, I will also acknowledge I saw some of the planning

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commissions meeting online reporting.

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All right, then, that will take us to our public hearing,

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our first public hearing item seven A.

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Receive a report, hold a public hearing, receive planning commissions

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recommendation regarding coastal development permits

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CDP-24 designer view, DR-11-24, use permit, UP-9-24, and sign permit, SP-20-24, for a multi-family project,

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at 1151 South Main Street.

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Jason, I introduce myself.

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I have a conflict with the property.

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That's okay.

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In the area.

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Okay.

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Thanks for letting us know.

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So, for the record, Council Member Hawking indicated he has some real property interest nearby,

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which is orange, we're accusing himself.

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All right, that.

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With that, can I just make a comment, too, just for the public, for Percedor's standpoint,

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now there's four of us left.

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So if there's a two-two vote on something that comes before us, when there's four council members,

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that, in effect, is a no.

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So, for anything to pass or for a yes vote, it's going to take three of us to vote, yes,

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and we're correct in that parent.

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But it's correct.

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Thank you.

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All right. Thanks for that clarification. Appreciate it.

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All right, Ms. Jones.

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Good evening, Council members.

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I'm going to depart from my typical long drawn out reading of a staff report because you were given this staff report in plenty of time.

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and it's a lot to cover and I found that at the planning commission meeting it took almost an hour.

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And I think there's a lot of people in the audience who want to speak and you probably don't need to hear me that much.

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So instead I have prepared a little PowerPoint and I hope that will make it shorter and sweeter.

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So I wanted to start off by just providing some context for this entitlement discussion.

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And that is that there are really two pieces of law that have a huge influence on your deliberations night and the review of this project.

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The first is state law and there's really one state law.

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It's called density bonus law that was triggered by this project because it includes 15% of units for very low income families.

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and that triggers certain incentives that the applicant is entitled to per state law.

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The applicant asked for two incentives with the City Council also per our zoning code.

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So our zoning code requires that you pre-approved incentives prior to bringing the application

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for to the planning commission. That's written both into ours on encode and also into state law.

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And the reason for that is because it takes a considerable amount of financial resources for an applicant to design a project.

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And they wouldn't want to go through that whole process of designing a project without some idea that the planning commission would consider approval of those incentives.

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I just want to clarify that because there was some comments in letters that were written that were incorrect around that.

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So, at that city council meeting, I believe it was in September of last year, you provided preliminary approval for two incentives, one was to increase the height limit to three stories and the other was to ask the applicant to do storm drain improvements on ocean drive for partial credit for required capacity fees.

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Since that time, it's become clearer that a third is sent to this required for the project.

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And I'll speak a little bit more to that later, but basically reducing the scope of required visitor serving component of the mixed-use project.

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So that would be the third request of the applicant.

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Also, as part of density bonus law, state law requires that a local jurisdiction give a 50% density bonus for a project that provides 15% of units to very low income.

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community. So that would be 93 units. In this case, the applicants asking for 87.

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Density bonus law also includes limited parking requirements on which have been applied to this project.

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And that's 107 spaces. So that's sort of the state law side over which

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this planning or the city council really only has authority about deciding which incentives you want to apply or not apply.

436
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There's also compliance with local laws and those local laws are part of the coastal general plan and coastal land use and development code.

437
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:43,040
Those include laws for the coastal development permit, which include everything from biological resources on this site, coastal access, archaeological resources, scenic resources and availability of public services and infrastructure.

438
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,980
There's also a use permit.

439
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:49,280
The use permit includes three components.

440
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:55,020
One, there's a use permit requirement for the multi-family component just on its own.

441
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:02,920
There's also a use permit request to increase the floor area ratio from the 0.4 to 0.7.

442
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,500
And I will describe a little bit more what floor area ratio is because I know it's a term

443
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:11,120
of art for the planning community that most people please over on.

444
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:17,080
And then also a shared parking between the one small retail use and the residential use.

445
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:28,380
For their design review in the old days, the city council and the planning commission had a lot of leeway over design review and that is no longer the case for state law.

446
00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:37,540
So the state only allows the city to apply quantitative design review criteria. You can no longer apply qualitative design criteria.

447
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:48,700
In other words, if your code says three colors, there needs to be three colors, but you cannot decide whether you like those three colors are not because that's a qualitative thing.

448
00:40:49,020 --> 00:40:58,560
When we look at quantitative things, so that's why in the staff report I really focused on just the quantitative aspects of design review and then finally there's a sign permit for this project.

449
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,540
So, the Planning Commission had a role in this and that was to provide a recommendation

450
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:04,520
to City Council.

451
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,600
They held a hearing two weeks ago and had a 5-0 recommendation to approve project.

452
00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:13,560
City Council's role is to either approve or deny the permits.

453
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:18,580
You can also add new special conditions if you like or remove special conditions.

454
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,880
If you approve the project, it would be available to the Coastal Commission if you deny

455
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,260
the project is not available to the Coastal Commission.

456
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:38,520
Over here, this project is heavily conditioned so there are 37 special conditions in the staff report to make the project comply with the zoning ordinance.

457
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:47,900
So as I go through a project, my goal is to find out every little place where it doesn't comply with the zoning ordinance and include a special condition to ensure that it would comply.

458
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:57,140
There's also eight additional standard conditions that would also be applied to this project, and you of course are welcome to add or remove special conditions.

459
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:05,260
That's a little rendering of project.

460
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:09,100
We're just going to go over the project really quick.

461
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:13,200
There are seven buildings proposed for the project site.

462
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:22,840
And they range in height from 72 feet, I'm sorry, 32 feet to 37 feet made inches and a total of 87 units.

463
00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:35,340
Open space on the project site is 46% of the entire parcel or 55,000 square feet total building footprint is 28,000 square feet.

464
00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:40,260
The remate, I'm sorry, that should have said 25% of the parcel.

465
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,700
Make pictures, please do over.

466
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,120
And then the remainder of the site is parking lots and sidewalks for about 30% of the site.

467
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,960
The proposed project density is 32 units per acre,

468
00:42:52,640 --> 00:43:00,420
and includes 107 parking spaces with 25 trees, 11 bicycle spaces, and 43 EV ready parking spaces,

469
00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:05,860
and also significant improvements to front-age road or the unnamed road or harbor avenue.

470
00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:12,390
The project would include six studios of 500 square foot each.

471
00:43:13,390 --> 00:43:18,190
36 one bedrooms, there's two different designs of 760 square feet each,

472
00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:22,350
and 45 two bedrooms of 1,000 square feet each.

473
00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:26,470
Each unit also includes either a private balcony or patio.

474
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:40,620
Landscaping includes 36, I'm sorry, 3,000 square feet of fire retention facilities on the eastern side of the property and 3,700 square feet of other landscape areas.

475
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,740
There are 73 trees and multiple native bushes.

476
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:48,280
There are some special conditions added to the landscaping.

477
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:52,200
There's a few non-native plants that would need to be replaced.

478
00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:57,120
There's four existing trees that might be saved.

479
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,440
There's a requirement to have more parking at the landscaping entrances.

480
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,360
So that's been at a special condition.

481
00:44:05,980 --> 00:44:09,460
And CDFW has requested the prohibition of planting of invasions.

482
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,380
So I want to talk a little bit about the use permit request.

483
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:16,660
Now there are three different use permit requests.

484
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:23,620
The first one is to share parking between the retail use and the residents.

485
00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:24,240
uses.

486
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:31,860
So I do want to speak a little bit about the initial project because there's been a

487
00:44:31,860 --> 00:44:39,120
little bit of confusion about this. So the applicant originally came to this city and one of

488
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:47,700
might have been August with a plan for 56 units of two story buildings. There were more buildings

489
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:53,020
there were nine buildings instead of seven. And I was doing the staff report and I thought

490
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:56,560
that inclusionary housing no longer applied to city four project because there was some case

491
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,980
law and then I looked it up and realized there was a wall of house beds.

492
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,440
State of California that made inclusionary housing a thing again. And that's why we went back to the applicant and said that he needed to do inclusionary housing. And so as part of that, he came back to the city asking for incentives.

493
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,780
One of the things around inclusionary housing is because they make projects less financially feasible.

494
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:29,040
They're eligible for this density bonus. So the applicant at that point asked for the density bonus and the increased and height in order to accommodate the density bonus.

495
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:35,020
without the increase in height, you can't accommodate the density bonus because there's no place to put the units.

496
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:42,500
So all of that is part of the thing and then also inclusionary housing also has reduced parking requirements.

497
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:53,360
So initially, the project, I thought, required a hundred nine parking spaces, but because of the

498
00:45:53,360 --> 00:46:03,000
revision of eliminating one multi-family unit and creating a office retail space as required later in this step and staff report

499
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:11,360
actually comes down to 107 parking spaces. So also one point out that the project does include include 40 new

500
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:19,460
on-street parking spaces. It doesn't mean this applicant will necessarily be eligible to use those on-street parking spaces

501
00:46:19,460 --> 00:46:21,640
or their tenants anymore than anybody else,

502
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:24,820
but those on-street parking spaces don't currently exist

503
00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:28,280
because there's no parking lane on either harbor avenue

504
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:30,620
or on front to drod right now.

505
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,900
By parking lane, parking lane means places where you park along

506
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:35,260
the road bay.

507
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Also, one of the things that came up at various hearings

508
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,420
was ADA and accessibility.

509
00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:46,780
So, per the state building code, nine of the units

510
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:49,800
have to be ADA accessible, and the parking lot

511
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,240
does include three accessible parking spaces

512
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,580
and there is a cesspool path of travel.

513
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,800
I'm throughout most of the project on the ground floor,

514
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,280
none of the second or third store units are

515
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,880
accessible because there are no elevators.

516
00:47:05,570 --> 00:47:08,350
So another reason that you need to use permittance

517
00:47:08,350 --> 00:47:10,590
because this is a multi-family project

518
00:47:12,690 --> 00:47:15,810
and there are findings in the staff report for that,

519
00:47:15,850 --> 00:47:17,390
essentially what you're looking for

520
00:47:17,390 --> 00:47:20,730
is the multi-family use incompatible

521
00:47:20,730 --> 00:47:23,950
with any of the other uses in the nearby area.

522
00:47:26,420 --> 00:47:30,200
And then there's a request for an increase in floor area ratio.

523
00:47:30,860 --> 00:47:35,480
So I just want to step back a little bit and say that in the residential zoning districts,

524
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,400
there is no floor area ratio limitation from multi-family development.

525
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:47,320
It's understood that a floor area ratio of .4 would not allow you to build multi-family development.

526
00:47:47,420 --> 00:47:50,740
That's basically a floor area ratio for commercial projects.

527
00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:57,260
Hence, the need to request a use permit for an increase in that FAR.

528
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,280
So, what the heck is an FAR?

529
00:48:01,060 --> 00:48:07,340
So, floor area ratio is just a way of measuring or limiting the amount of mass that's

530
00:48:07,340 --> 00:48:09,260
allowed on a project site.

531
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,780
So, in downtown, we have a floor area ratio limitation of two.

532
00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:25,440
So, every property in downtown can have twice the amount of square footage of buildings as there is the size of the parcel itself.

533
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:43,580
Yeah, floor area ratio of one would allow you to have just exactly the amount of square footage in the building as the parcel itself, but it could be stacked in two stories and cover half the parcel or maybe three stories and cover a third of the parcel or one story and cover the entirety of the parcel.

534
00:48:43,580 --> 00:48:56,320
So you could see how an FAR of 0.4 really only allows you to build a quarter of the whole size of the parcel as you're building, whether it's in 1, 2 or 3 stories.

535
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,920
And so the applicant is asking for a boost from 0.4 to 0.7.

536
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:11,700
I would say that these units are modest in size ranging from 500 square feet for the studio to 1,000 square feet for a 2 bedroom.

537
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:24,140
If you are not to increase the FAR as a question by the applicant, they would essentially not be able to build the unit mix that they want and they would have to go down to like all studios.

538
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:32,360
In order to accommodate the density bonus that they're allowed by state law.

539
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:39,220
So you do get into trouble if you don't allow them to build the amount of density that they're allowed by state law.

540
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:48,780
You know, get into a little bit more about that at the end and that's really part of this new law that the state has passed the limits local government's abilities

541
00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:52,180
around regulation of multi-family units.

542
00:49:54,250 --> 00:49:56,550
So I'm going to talk a little bit about inclusionary housing.

543
00:49:57,950 --> 00:50:02,170
So what is inclusionary housing and why does the city have an inclusionary housing ordinance?

544
00:50:02,170 --> 00:50:22,950
So, the city adopted an inclusionary housing program in 2009, and the purpose of inclusionary housing is to make developers who are developing for profit, market rate housing include a 15% of those units as an inclusionary units.

545
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:29,690
And because they're doing that, they're eligible for a different law state law, state density

546
00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:34,930
bonus law, which is where they get their density bonus and the three incentives from.

547
00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:41,130
So this project includes mostly small market rate workforce housing units.

548
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:45,730
There was some concern that they would be able to be changed into condos.

549
00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:49,930
There's a whole different process that they would have to go to establish condos.

550
00:50:50,550 --> 00:50:58,330
And these units cannot be rented out for vacation rentals because the city prohibits all vacation rentals except for in the central business district.

551
00:50:59,010 --> 00:51:05,550
And in the CBD year old, there's only 10 possible vacation rentals allowed and even those haven't been gone yet.

552
00:51:05,550 --> 00:51:10,950
So this project asked, well, the city required 15% of inclusionary units.

553
00:51:11,630 --> 00:51:15,250
So how does that 15% of inclusionary units get calculated?

554
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:20,310
Is it calculated at the, based on the initial project size of 54 units?

555
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:24,530
Or is it calculated based on the final project size of 87 units?

556
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:27,150
Well, believe it or not, that's written in law.

557
00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:32,090
And it's calculated on the initial project of 56 units,

558
00:51:32,090 --> 00:51:35,070
which is why only eight units would be inclusionary housing.

559
00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:38,370
The density bonus is supposed to help that developer

560
00:51:38,370 --> 00:51:40,650
afford to do those units.

561
00:51:42,610 --> 00:51:44,490
So for those eight units,

562
00:51:45,130 --> 00:51:47,730
they would be available for very low income households

563
00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:50,170
or any less than 31,000 per year

564
00:51:50,170 --> 00:51:53,070
and rent would be $647 per month.

565
00:51:53,490 --> 00:51:55,630
It would be a mix of the studio,

566
00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:57,230
one bedrooms and two bedrooms,

567
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:59,330
so they can't just do the studios.

568
00:51:59,330 --> 00:52:08,030
And the applicant would enter into a regulatory agreement with the city of Fort Bragg that regulates those units for 35 years of affordability.

569
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:20,440
All right, so I've talked through that. Sorry if I'm going slow, but it's kind of complicated and I think everybody has a little bit more time to wrap their brain about it.

570
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:29,360
So, I want to talk a little bit about, sorry, Zoom is putting all kinds of weird stuff on my screen.

571
00:52:29,540 --> 00:52:33,740
I can't rewrite it. So, what is an incentive?

572
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,460
It's a term that I've thrown around a bunch around density, bonus law,

573
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,880
and incentive is a reduction in a development standard,

574
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,900
a development standard, something that you have in your zoning ordinance.

575
00:52:46,760 --> 00:53:08,940
So, the applicant came back to me and requested that the first incentive, or the second incentive of the first time they came for you, this thing of doing the stormwater improvements on Ocean Drive and exchange for Cassidy conceptions, doesn't really qualify as an incentive for a development standard.

576
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:14,680
that's more like an agreement between the city and the applicant about how to deal with this stormwater

577
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:22,120
maintenance challenge. So they would like to have that incentive removed and instead they're asking

578
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:29,340
for on the right hand side number two they want to have the minimum balcony size change from a

579
00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:36,340
hundred square feet to 42 square feet and their rationale for that I will go over in a minute and then

580
00:53:36,340 --> 00:53:41,140
want to move the former incentive number two just to a special condition that the city could

581
00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:43,320
enforce through that process.

582
00:53:51,310 --> 00:53:55,190
So the first incentive is the high limit reduction.

583
00:53:56,050 --> 00:54:01,770
I just want to go over this a little bit. So this would reduce the or increase the building

584
00:54:01,770 --> 00:54:08,130
root roofs from 28 feet, which is the current limitation to 32 feet,

585
00:54:08,610 --> 00:54:12,770
for all the flat roofs and the 37-t heat for all the shed roofs.

586
00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:17,310
I will note that the building site is about five feet below the grade of the highway right now.

587
00:54:18,350 --> 00:54:21,370
So the actual experience of the roofs might not be as big.

588
00:54:22,850 --> 00:54:27,970
For comparison, the dolphin end is 28 feet and the outlet store is 26 feet.

589
00:54:30,220 --> 00:54:32,080
Do you back that up and said that again?

590
00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:37,260
What do you want me to say, the whole comparison of the feet?

591
00:54:37,860 --> 00:54:43,140
OK, so the building site is five feet below the highway.

592
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,080
They're asking for an increase from 28 to 32 feet.

593
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:52,080
That's four feet for most of the buildings.

594
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:59,800
And it's only the top of the pitch where it goes up to 37.8 feet on the pitch truce,

595
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:06,180
which there are a few pitch roofs. So I've shown on these illustrations like this is showing the pitch

596
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:13,320
versus this that which is the normal flat part. So here's the flat part and then here's that little pitch.

597
00:55:15,020 --> 00:55:21,520
And just for comparison sake the dolphin is 28 feet and height and the Alice tourists 26 feet and height.

598
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,600
But do they belong to the highway level?

599
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,460
The, the, the,

600
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,860
Alice story is the dolphin and is not.

601
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,640
I'm trying to think of.

602
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,060
I don't know exactly how is the bird's flesh.

603
00:55:36,220 --> 00:55:42,440
I'm gonna, I'm not exactly certain, but the Alice story is about the same level as this

604
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:42,880
parcel.

605
00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:48,910
If you look at the top on map.

606
00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:54,110
So the second incentive they're now asking for is a reduction in the balcony sizes.

607
00:55:54,110 --> 00:56:00,150
So this would really affect the second and third story units that would have private balconies.

608
00:56:00,730 --> 00:56:08,610
The bottom floor balconies would still either have 150 square foot patio or 150 square foot little fence stop area for those units.

609
00:56:09,450 --> 00:56:13,010
The applicant's asking for this reduced balcony size for a couple of reasons.

610
00:56:13,850 --> 00:56:19,570
First, it's a little weird to have a hundred square foot balcony with only a fifty five hundred square foot units.

611
00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:21,610
So there's a little bit of a mismatch.

612
00:56:22,290 --> 00:56:26,790
It's not a great location throughout door living in terms of the wind and the traffic noise.

613
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:33,610
And overall the visual effect of the project would be more...

614
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:39,910
So we're not as harmonious, maybe, with so many bigger balconies.

615
00:56:40,030 --> 00:56:41,890
So that's why they're asking for that reduction.

616
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,460
And then the third incentive that they're asking for is to reduce the visitor serving requirement.

617
00:56:51,280 --> 00:57:19,440
So the general NN, the zoning code indicates that residential uses are permitted above the ground floor or at the ground floor at the rear of buildings to a maximum density up to 24 units per acre with a conditional use permit now the reason we're going more than 24 units per acre is because state density bonus law trumps the cities 24 units per acre so that's how we got to 33 units per acre.

618
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:29,340
A couple of options that we're discussed with the applicant, so I gave them the idea of maybe converting the bottom four units into hotel rooms.

619
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:37,300
You did not like the idea, while it's financially feasible, he just feels that these would be conflicting uses and would cause trouble.

620
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:43,810
Also looked at the feasibility of providing retail on the bottom floor of all seven buildings.

621
00:57:43,810 --> 00:57:50,230
Obviously the retail would be tucked into a residential development and probably no one would shop there.

622
00:57:50,610 --> 00:57:53,190
And really it's not financially feasible to do that.

623
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:57,290
And I also don't think it meets the goals of the city with regard to housing,

624
00:57:57,650 --> 00:58:02,550
especially given how much vacant retail space the city has these days.

625
00:58:03,590 --> 00:58:11,610
I did work with Coastal Community Commission staff and this is very common for city staff and consultants to work with other regulatory agencies

626
00:58:11,610 --> 00:58:21,310
to figure out solutions to issues, so we also consult with the Fire Department, we consult with California Department of Fish and Wildlife, we consult with the Coastal Commission.

627
00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:32,470
The Coastal Commission staff's feeling was that they needed to turn at least one unit into a retail storefront in order to meet the spirit of this law.

628
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:41,950
And if a density bonus law incentive was used to reduce the rest, so that's what the applicant is asking for and where we are with this in the project.

629
00:58:43,630 --> 00:58:48,930
So there are other permanent issues that are addressed in the staff report and I'm going to go through each of these.

630
00:58:49,350 --> 00:59:01,270
And then I also have a slide that has all sort of a summary of all the comments if I could barely say that you could ever summarize people's comments and I'll respond to those and then I want to close with a little bit more housing law.

631
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:09,350
So this area is not mapped for view protection by the coastal general plan.

632
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:15,910
What that means is that no visual analysis is required, and these views are not considered protected.

633
00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:21,590
They're constrained already in blocked by trees, bushes, and development to the west of the parcel.

634
00:59:24,610 --> 00:59:31,930
The project site has no environmentally sensitive habitat area, so a full biological study was done in 2018 and 2024.

635
00:59:31,930 --> 00:59:36,850
and no sensitive habitat areas were found.

636
00:59:37,610 --> 00:59:43,050
There are four trees that of themselves do not constitute a rare plant community.

637
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:49,290
And those are shown showing retain retain and retain and retain.

638
00:59:50,490 --> 00:59:54,210
And so CDFW asked for two special conditions.

639
00:59:54,490 --> 00:59:57,390
One would be to retain those trees as feasible.

640
00:59:58,270 --> 00:59:59,830
It's not totally clear that they're feasible.

641
00:59:59,830 --> 00:59:59,970
both.

642
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,380
All to retain these two up here would be in a via retention area, and these two would be this one's kind of not going to be likely to be retained.

643
01:00:10,540 --> 01:00:20,420
It's right next to a building, but this one is near the kids park and likely could be retained, and then also there's a requirement for pre-construction bird surveys.

644
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:30,900
Another important part of the coastal act is to ensure that there's water availability for coastal dependent uses basically visitor serving uses so they required

645
01:00:31,660 --> 01:00:48,520
the city to prepare a water budget so the first table is the water budget for the project and it assumes basically about 7,000 gallons of water use per day for the 87 units or about 2.5 million gallons of water use per year.

646
01:00:49,600 --> 01:01:18,320
And in the old days, this probably would have stopped this project, but more recently the city has invested a lot in new water projects that do address the water concerns primarily there's been a deep package desalination plant that was added in 2022 that allows the city to take up to 144,000 gallons of additional water from the Niagara River, which by itself would more than compensate for the six, the 7,000 gallons of this project would use.

647
01:01:18,980 --> 01:01:25,400
Additionally, the raw waterline replacement project is underway right now, and that's limiting water loss through leaks.

648
01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:33,620
And then the water conservation project, similar thing, helps the city identify water leaks in residential uses throughout the city.

649
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:41,260
So all together, those are going to save about 200,000 gallons of water a day. Again, more than enough to cover the needs of this project.

650
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Circulation in coastal access has also been brought up quite a bit by the neighbors and is a concern for this project.

651
01:01:51,900 --> 01:02:00,300
So, right now, Pomobloff's Park is right here and there was some concern from neighbors that people might walk out.

652
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:06,980
Emotions you drive to get to Pomobloff's Park. I think that's highly unlikely given that they can just walk right out here.

653
01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:12,100
So this is really the pedestrian access of a bicycle access on the POMO Bluffs Park.

654
01:02:12,340 --> 01:02:14,660
This would be more of a particular access.

655
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:22,060
The internal circulation for the project would allow people to leave on to Harbor Avenue

656
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:30,240
and go east found on Ocean Drive to the signalized intersection to make either a laughter turn or go across the highway.

657
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:38,480
I do want to make something clear, a sequa has changed and so has traffic studies with

658
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:45,220
regard to traffic. Basically nobody worries about level of service anymore. It's okay

659
01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:51,040
for people to wait and traffic, but concern is more vehicle miles traveled. So the idea

660
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:56,900
was before everybody was worried about levels of service and what that led to was a lot of

661
01:02:56,900 --> 01:03:02,200
and sprawl. So people would be driving further and further and further so as to not cause traffic

662
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:07,760
jams. And now the whole state has sort of recognized the traffic jams are a part of life.

663
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,200
And actually what we need to be focused on is densification of urban cores so that people don't

664
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:19,280
drive as far, which is why we look at vehicle miles traveled. So for example, cow trans anymore

665
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:25,420
doesn't care about level of service. They care about two things. Vehicle miles traveled and safety.

666
01:03:25,420 --> 01:03:33,660
those are their only concerns. So for this project safety is an issue and mostly it's an issue

667
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:38,740
at this intersection right here for people who are coming out and wanting to drive north

668
01:03:38,740 --> 01:03:46,840
down onto Highway 1 from the out grocery out or the outlet store entrance. So one of the mitigations

669
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:54,540
for this project is to require a right hand turn only sign here so people cannot make a left onto

670
01:03:54,540 --> 01:04:02,720
highway one. There's also a keep clear find that would need to be installed here and here so that people

671
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:11,950
driving out don't block the intersections for others going back and that's shown on the next slide.

672
01:04:13,310 --> 01:04:19,450
So keep clear the extend the lane striping on ocean view drive and then no left turn on on each

673
01:04:19,450 --> 01:04:21,590
down front-age road.

674
01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:26,490
So this project would possibly have 1097 people.

675
01:04:26,570 --> 01:04:29,750
I would say that is a high-end estimate,

676
01:04:30,810 --> 01:04:33,050
because on the mind of, well, at least half the units

677
01:04:33,050 --> 01:04:34,950
or studios are one bedrooms.

678
01:04:36,190 --> 01:04:41,150
But that's taking the city's current population per household,

679
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:44,670
which is 2.3 people per household times the number of units.

680
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:46,070
That's how I got that.

681
01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:47,970
And through software generation,

682
01:04:47,970 --> 01:04:54,170
that produces 466 trips per day and this trip level is very similar to autosone project.

683
01:04:54,910 --> 01:05:03,290
Right now the city doesn't regulate LOS on signalized intersections and on any small street

684
01:05:03,290 --> 01:05:10,690
that hits highway one level of service of F or low is considered acceptable and F is as low as

685
01:05:10,690 --> 01:05:11,130
you can

686
01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:17,270
get. So I'm going to talk a little bit about the storm water system right now.

687
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:31,430
So, the storm water system consists of a number of drains that drain to a central reservoir that then also drains to infiltration basins.

688
01:05:31,790 --> 01:05:34,230
So, what's the purpose of an infiltration basins?

689
01:05:34,250 --> 01:05:43,710
An infiltration basins is engineered with different soil levels and plant communities to screen out pollutants from the storm water before they enter the groundwater.

690
01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:50,410
their designs for that very purpose and one of the special conditions requires that these get

691
01:05:50,410 --> 01:05:56,390
maintained on an annual basis. The project will allow for a lot of stormwater infiltration in

692
01:05:56,390 --> 01:06:03,170
the green areas as well. Additionally, we're requiring rainwater capture tanks on four of the

693
01:06:03,170 --> 01:06:08,630
buildings that will capture the rainwater into a large tank which will then later infiltrate

694
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:11,610
that's warm water into the ground at a much slower rate,

695
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:14,330
so it basically captures the big downpours

696
01:06:14,330 --> 01:06:16,130
and then allows it to trickle out later.

697
01:06:18,530 --> 01:06:21,510
Any, so the most important piece of this

698
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:24,990
is that the actual stormwater discharge peak discharge

699
01:06:24,990 --> 01:06:30,210
is gonna be less after this project than it currently is.

700
01:06:30,210 --> 01:06:32,150
Sounds crazy, but that's what they can do

701
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:33,430
with stormwater management now.

702
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:38,530
So we'll essentially fall from 6.12 cubic feet per second,

703
01:06:38,530 --> 01:06:40,970
which is how much comes off this site right now

704
01:06:40,970 --> 01:06:44,190
in a really big storm growing of a storm event,

705
01:06:44,650 --> 01:06:50,650
down to 0.3532, I'm sorry, 0.35 to cubic feet per second.

706
01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:53,770
So that's a net decrease in stormwater discharge.

707
01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:55,710
The excess stormwater discharge

708
01:06:55,710 --> 01:06:58,270
will go into the ocean view drive storm drain system,

709
01:06:58,430 --> 01:07:00,670
which the applicant is also being required to upgrade.

710
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:07,970
So unfortunately, I didn't address this issue

711
01:07:07,970 --> 01:07:08,850
for the planning commission,

712
01:07:08,850 --> 01:07:12,490
But it did come up justifiably at the planning commission's hearing.

713
01:07:12,570 --> 01:07:14,930
So I did want to talk about groundwater recharge.

714
01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:20,050
So there is a policy in the city's general plan that requires a city

715
01:07:20,050 --> 01:07:23,290
to protect aquifers, groundwater aquifers.

716
01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:29,430
So going through the project again, 46% of the site would be open space

717
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:32,050
in landscape areas, which allow for recharge.

718
01:07:32,650 --> 01:07:37,650
The building footprints are relatively small at 28,000 square feet,

719
01:07:37,650 --> 01:07:42,690
but only 8,000 square feet of that would not be attached to a catchment ink.

720
01:07:43,630 --> 01:07:50,870
And then that, like I just said, the parking lot is connected through this system to a bio-svel system to pre-treat and infiltrate stormwater.

721
01:07:51,470 --> 01:08:02,890
As I looked at groundwater as a whole on Todd's point, this is a study called the Nolan study that was completed actually in the 90s for a different project.

722
01:08:02,890 --> 01:08:12,930
And that project, that setty found that overall in Todd's point, there's 348 acre feet of water storage in the groundwater.

723
01:08:13,850 --> 01:08:22,950
And I'm not a groundwater expert, but basically they figured out that geological formations and how much water it could store.

724
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:46,310
And they also looked at well records, the proposed project, groundwater impact, none of these things were true, and all of the impervious surface was not going to groundwater would be an impact of 1.21 acre feet, all of the current groundwater use on the site.

725
01:08:46,310 --> 01:08:55,830
So that includes all of Todd's point, every residential development is about 9.2 acre feet per year.

726
01:08:56,530 --> 01:09:01,510
So that leaves about 337 acre feet of groundwater in the ground that's not getting used.

727
01:09:02,750 --> 01:09:08,870
Another way to look at this is 98% of Todd's point is undeveloped pervious services.

728
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:17,750
And 1.3% of Todd's point is developed in-purpose services that includes roads, rooftops, parking lots, the school.

729
01:09:19,270 --> 01:09:24,330
The project would add to that 0.08% of in-purpose service.

730
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:37,680
By your safety, so as I mentioned, there are two fire hydrants in the project site, and there are three egresses in and out for fire safety.

731
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:43,660
this has project has been looked at by the fair marshal and he said it looks good although he'll always have more comments

732
01:09:43,660 --> 01:09:50,660
have the building permit stage which is for you. I just wanted to give you a sense of the special conditions. Now,

733
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:56,660
this is not my special condition language. As you know, when I write special conditions, they're very bullet proof.

734
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:03,620
I'm just just to give you a sense of two more motorcycle spaces, 50 square footers shrubs at parking lot

735
01:10:03,620 --> 01:10:08,280
entrances, the issue around the balconies still needs to be resolved.

736
01:10:08,980 --> 01:10:13,480
It has to be an entrance, an entrance needing to be added to the east side of the building 3-7.

737
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,620
A sound wall would need to be constructed to be the parking lot in Harbor Avenue to reduce noise for the neighbors.

738
01:10:20,420 --> 01:10:24,800
They have to enter into a regulatory agreement with the city to ensure affordability of all the units.

739
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:31,740
They need to establish a visitor serving use in one unit, tribal monitoring during moving activities is required.

740
01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:37,240
If any culture resources or human remains are discovered, there are specific procedures required

741
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,460
for that prior to construction of bird survey must be completed.

742
01:10:41,140 --> 01:10:43,240
They have to retain four trees if feasible.

743
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,840
They have to re-submit their landscaping plan with no non-native species.

744
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,280
They have to refrain from planning any invasive species.

745
01:10:51,980 --> 01:10:55,260
The utility hookup configurations have to be public works requirements.

746
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:56,760
Public works has a lot of requirements.

747
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,500
I didn't detail those because it's a lot.

748
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,720
They have to install traffic control signage.

749
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:09,680
They have to install a bus to stop for MTA and school buses, install road and sidewalk improvements

750
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,160
to Harbor Avenue from a road and dedicate those to the city.

751
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:19,280
Don't improve the parking lot on the west side of Harbor Ave except as a bios well for neighbors

752
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:25,560
requests, installing catchment tanks for buildings, no use of inorganic landscaping chemicals.

753
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:30,320
they need to install a full trash capture device in the storm drain system. They need to

754
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:35,540
install all storm drain outlets and they have to do an annual inspection of all storm drain

755
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:43,720
systems. They have to submit a storm water management plan or a swip. This is the construction storm

756
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,900
water management plan, which some people express concerns about. They have to complete the offsite storm

757
01:11:48,900 --> 01:11:53,660
drain improvements for ocean drive with a dollar for dollar change for capacity for reduction.

758
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:58,600
They have to submit and follow a project specific geotechnical study.

759
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,940
They have to make the fence a little fancier.

760
01:12:02,340 --> 01:12:05,820
They have to submit a plan for a seeding area and playground equipment for the playground.

761
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:12,820
They have to include directory and individual lighting unit numbers, and they also have to visually screen all outdoor equipment.

762
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,440
I'm almost done.

763
01:12:15,860 --> 01:12:21,180
So some community concerns that I glean from reading all of the letters in the last meeting.

764
01:12:21,180 --> 01:12:26,380
I think we've talked to a lot, compatibility with the neighborhood.

765
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,380
I think that's been addressed in the staff report.

766
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,780
Construction noise is currently limited by the city's noise ordinance.

767
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,260
The applicant would not be able to do any construction between 7 am and 530 pm.

768
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:46,000
If you want to extend those hours or shorten them, you can do that tonight with a special condition.

769
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:51,000
There's concerned about traffic congestion, traffic congestion is no longer a

770
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,340
secret issue. There's concern about traffic access through Harbor RV Park.

771
01:12:56,460 --> 01:13:00,780
There's no roadway that exists legal roadway that exists through Harbor RV

772
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:05,480
Park. If they do not want vehicles passing through their Harbor Park, they can

773
01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:11,440
install events to keep vehicles out. There's concern about traffic safety.

774
01:13:15,220 --> 01:13:15,940
The

775
01:13:15,940 --> 01:13:23,000
So left-hand signal is the null left-hand turn from the front-end drove connection on the highway one.

776
01:13:23,380 --> 01:13:37,520
We would eliminate that as a traffic safety concern as would keep clear signage at the intersection of harbor, avenue, and ocean drive, and the intersection of front-end road and ocean drive.

777
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:44,940
Crosswalks and sidewalks. There are no crosswalks required of this project, but you could add that as a special condition if you want.

778
01:13:44,940 --> 01:13:55,940
Sidewalks are being completed on throughout the project site itself, but no off site sidewalk improvements have been required if you want to require those you can.

779
01:13:55,940 --> 01:14:04,140
Um, dumpster runoff is run through the same bio filtration system as parking lot runoff, so I don't think it should be an issue.

780
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:15,960
Groundwater safety, I've discussed the groundwater issues. Groundwater here is 20 feet below top of surface, so it's pretty unlikely that contaminates we're going to get down that far.

781
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,940
Solar is required at the time of building permits.

782
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,320
That's not addressed in the planning permit process.

783
01:14:22,260 --> 01:14:23,760
The school bus route.

784
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:28,120
I'm going to leave to the school bus to figure out the school people.

785
01:14:28,980 --> 01:14:35,740
Stormwater issues are managed through the construction building permit and the grading permit and the slip.

786
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,640
I've talked through fire safety.

787
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:40,980
The calculation of the affordable unit percentage.

788
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,920
I've discussed how that's calculated on the original project.

789
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:59,960
also already discussed the vision visitor serving requirements and the reason that none of those incentives are a variance is because they're required by state housing loss, so there's no obligation or in fact the city could not.

790
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,800
Not require a variance for those. They are obligated by state housing law.

791
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:28,530
Okay, and then the last thing I just want to remind you of is the Housing Accountability Act and this regulates all municipalities and counties throughout the state of California and not just for a flag, and it's severely limits, but local governments may do with regard to denial, reduction of density, or making an infeasible any housing project, emergency shelter or farm worker housing.

792
01:15:28,530 --> 01:15:32,090
They're consistent with objective local development standards.

793
01:15:32,890 --> 01:15:37,330
Essentially, the city can only design deny a housing project of two conditions are met.

794
01:15:37,770 --> 01:15:42,410
First, there must be a specific adverse impact upon the public health or safety.

795
01:15:42,970 --> 01:15:49,890
And second, there is no feasible method to satisfactorily mitigate or avoid that adverse impact.

796
01:15:50,010 --> 01:15:54,230
Those are the only conditions under which you can deny housing project.

797
01:15:55,090 --> 01:16:00,770
In the old days, we used to be able to wave our hands and say we're the only people who can understand consistency.

798
01:16:01,270 --> 01:16:10,570
That's no longer the case, the Housing Accountability Act requires that a reasonable person can apply the zoning regulations and know what they need.

799
01:16:12,050 --> 01:16:23,950
None of the density bonus incentives, concessions or the density bonus itself is a valid basis to find a project inconsistent with zoning laws under the Housing Accountability Act.

800
01:16:23,950 --> 01:16:35,910
In addition, the local government must provide written notification and documentation of any inconsistency, non-compliance, or in conformancy within 30 days of a complete application.

801
01:16:37,410 --> 01:16:46,170
If we fail to provide that information, the how the project is deemed consistent, and if the city wants to take, sorry.

802
01:16:49,530 --> 01:17:03,150
There we go. If the city wants to deny this project and the applicant decides to take the city's court, finds can be up to $10,000 per unit, less recovered attorneys fees.

803
01:17:03,150 --> 01:17:13,790
So, I don't mean to scare you, but I just want the city council and also the public to understand the state law constraints that we're all dealing with.

804
01:17:13,930 --> 01:17:18,370
And with that, I will stop sharing my screen and available to answer any questions.

805
01:17:18,370 --> 01:17:22,030
I'm sorry, thanks so much for that.

806
01:17:22,490 --> 01:17:23,750
Alex, I invite questions.

807
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:25,050
Council member Peter.

808
01:17:25,250 --> 01:17:26,350
Yeah, I have some questions.

809
01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:28,310
I got it correctly.

810
01:17:30,330 --> 01:17:30,930
So,

811
01:17:32,350 --> 01:17:37,810
one of those conditions about storm drain improvements on ocean drive

812
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:43,410
has sort of been altered down to the reduced balcony size instead.

813
01:17:43,650 --> 01:17:44,430
I get that right.

814
01:17:45,670 --> 01:17:47,250
Yeah, that would be an incentive.

815
01:17:47,250 --> 01:17:51,790
Well, that's what I meant and sent it that condition. My apologies. Thank you for the right terminology.

816
01:17:53,850 --> 01:18:02,730
And then the 15% is from the original number of 56 not 87, which is the number of units actually planned.

817
01:18:03,890 --> 01:18:11,590
15% of 56 is eight. Yes, there as 50% of 87 is 15

818
01:18:12,690 --> 01:18:22,810
So that's what the difference is there because there were some concern and I had some questions from comments made by the public that that my attention, so

819
01:18:22,810 --> 01:18:30,410
I understood that correctly you did understand that correctly and we are dealing with three use permits one having to do with parking

820
01:18:31,890 --> 01:18:41,510
One having to do with changing it to multi-family units that particular area and the retail makes there and the third use permit has to do with floor area

821
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:49,190
ratio is that correct? Yeah, um, the as a long staff report, and I was, you, you have it, you

822
01:18:49,190 --> 01:18:54,990
could correct, yes. I think I have that correct, and currently in their code, um,

823
01:18:56,110 --> 01:19:01,970
point four is, is the number, but they want that incentive, they need to use permit to change it

824
01:19:01,970 --> 01:19:08,110
to point seven to make it financially feasible. Correct. Okay. Um, water's not an issue according to

825
01:19:08,110 --> 01:19:21,110
study? Yes, and as per my conversations with the director of public work. Okay, and we can go into this more with other questions. I just okay. I want to make sure I understood this and the California Coast Commission has sort of a view shed.

826
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:27,850
thing that they look at and according to whatever parameters those include there is no loss of

827
01:19:27,850 --> 01:19:33,030
ocean view with the construction of these units. According to the coastal commission did I hear that correctly.

828
01:19:34,030 --> 01:19:38,670
I wouldn't say that it's according to the coastal commission. I would say it's according to our coastal general plan.

829
01:19:38,670 --> 01:19:45,450
There's a map and on that map, this parcel is not indicated as a parcel that has a view shed for protection.

830
01:19:45,450 --> 01:19:47,970
So that was our determination of the Costa Commission.

831
01:19:48,270 --> 01:19:52,130
Well, it's kind of both because it's part of our coastal

832
01:19:52,130 --> 01:19:54,790
general plan, which the Costa Commission certifies.

833
01:19:55,890 --> 01:19:58,090
But they haven't waited on this specific project,

834
01:19:58,210 --> 01:20:00,130
but that's what the map and the policy say.

835
01:20:00,310 --> 01:20:01,430
So I'm applying them.

836
01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:07,690
Now, back to that left turn and there's traffic safety issue.

837
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:11,930
I just assume you take that thing out completely myself.

838
01:20:12,130 --> 01:20:12,890
But I'm just one.

839
01:20:12,890 --> 01:20:19,870
I don't think we really need an ingress egress there. It's dangerous, but that's just me, and that's a comment on a question.

840
01:20:20,570 --> 01:20:24,730
The question would be, and maybe this is for John, I know the skeletons not us.

841
01:20:25,150 --> 01:20:31,890
But if we were to have a no-left turn sign, you know, it didn't work too well on Harbor Drive there.

842
01:20:32,190 --> 01:20:41,610
People turn left all the time and people turn left out of the passage. My question is, could you put some sort of center divider along that particular area,

843
01:20:41,610 --> 01:20:47,490
which man they couldn't turn left, they'd have to turn right. And I know that's

844
01:20:47,490 --> 01:20:51,410
calterans, but I'm just thinking if you're going to let that thing stay open to me

845
01:20:51,410 --> 01:20:55,490
to displace someone from turning left would be to put a center divider that they before

846
01:20:55,490 --> 01:20:59,870
we'll probably might be able to go over the most of the cars. So that's just that's kind of a

847
01:20:59,870 --> 01:21:04,090
question whether or not we could we could do that or convince them to do that or have the

848
01:21:04,090 --> 01:21:12,710
little bit to do that. The stormwater discharge goes down from 6.1 cubic feet to 0.035

849
01:21:12,710 --> 01:21:18,210
cubic feet with the new storm water discharge systems that are available. And I hear that correctly.

850
01:21:18,270 --> 01:21:23,690
That's correct. And where are the neighbors noticed properly?

851
01:21:24,970 --> 01:21:29,290
Yeah, per our code they were known as correctly. So our code is what? Within 300 feet?

852
01:21:29,570 --> 01:21:36,530
Within 300 feet, you get a letter. The property was posted with signage, and there was also a

853
01:21:36,530 --> 01:21:42,690
hearing notice in the paper. Okay. I always been one to feel, you know, one in doubt make it 500 feet.

854
01:21:42,710 --> 01:21:46,330
better than 300 or whatever, you know, go too far rather than not far enough.

855
01:21:46,430 --> 01:21:49,990
Anyway, so there were some complaints, but we'll get properly noticed.

856
01:21:50,490 --> 01:21:55,310
So, okay. Good. All right. Well, those are all my questions for now. Thank you.

857
01:21:56,670 --> 01:21:58,430
All right. Thank you, Councilmember Altman Smith.

858
01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:03,440
Wow. Thank you, Marie. So complete.

859
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:11,120
Only a couple of questions. So, I was trying to figure out if these are only rentals or if they

860
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:17,480
be owned. The applicant is proposing them only as rentals. If they want to change it into a

861
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:21,580
condo, there's a process that they'd have to go through with the City of Fort Bragg that

862
01:22:21,580 --> 01:22:27,660
includes a use permit process with the planning commission to make it into condos. I will say

863
01:22:27,660 --> 01:22:32,880
that because the applicant is applying for the project as rental housing,

864
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:36,580
but inclusionary housing units

865
01:22:36,580 --> 01:22:40,780
would need to remain rental housing for the 35 years

866
01:22:40,780 --> 01:22:42,100
of the regulatory agreement,

867
01:22:42,420 --> 01:22:44,840
irrespective of whatever happened to other units.

868
01:22:45,580 --> 01:22:48,460
And the city doesn't have any kind of a rent control

869
01:22:48,460 --> 01:22:55,000
on design, but with these affordable apartments,

870
01:22:57,540 --> 01:22:59,580
it said you said something about having to go back

871
01:22:59,580 --> 01:23:05,820
to the city to if somebody, it says in here that if they want

872
01:23:05,820 --> 01:23:06,520
change.

873
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:15,500
If somebody was in an affordable housing and somebody changed, then they'd have to go through this city

874
01:23:17,060 --> 01:23:22,520
to get a who's going to monitor whether the next person is affordable. Let me ask you that way.

875
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:30,500
Yeah, that is monitored by the city by the city. Right. And so do we have someone in the is it a planning department person that would do that?

876
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:45,060
It would be a planning department responsibility as okay. So we're going to maintain somehow maintain the affordable right now. The city has one includes in our unit and every time it turns over we do income verification on that unit.

877
01:23:45,780 --> 01:23:47,520
Good. Okay.

878
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,000
I personally would like to see a sidewalk.

879
01:23:52,400 --> 01:24:00,480
Improvements to hardware drive and there was a question about the improvements are already proposed for the east side of

880
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:07,260
Harper Drive? That's all. Yeah. We wanted them on the west side. I guess not.

881
01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:17,540
ADA access was a question to plomoblofs. Is that something we're dealing with? Or we could deal with?

882
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:26,960
There's really no ADA access from this site to plomoblofs. And it's a little bit the on the scope

883
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:33,160
of the city and feel free to chime in Baron if you think I'm off with Mark here to require

884
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:38,000
the applicant to do AEDA improvements that are not on their site. So,

885
01:24:38,020 --> 01:24:42,540
similarly if someone has the AEDA issues, they probably have a vehicle, they can get in their

886
01:24:42,540 --> 01:24:47,380
vehicle and drive to Palma Bluffs where there are AEDA parking spaces as there are in all the coastal

887
01:24:47,380 --> 01:24:48,160
trail properties.

888
01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:56,090
Okay, I'm interested in what other public has to say on that. All right,

889
01:24:56,090 --> 01:24:57,030
Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor, questions.

890
01:24:57,550 --> 01:24:58,050
Yeah, thank

891
01:25:00,770 --> 01:25:01,190
you.

892
01:25:01,190 --> 01:25:02,910
I think most of my questions were answered.

893
01:25:03,230 --> 01:25:05,710
I mean, it's very thorough.

894
01:25:05,930 --> 01:25:07,990
You addressed a lot of those comments that came up.

895
01:25:08,170 --> 01:25:09,230
So I appreciate that.

896
01:25:09,250 --> 01:25:09,550
You welcome.

897
01:25:10,250 --> 01:25:11,990
I wanted to thank you for this staff report, too.

898
01:25:12,190 --> 01:25:13,330
Yeah, it was impressive.

899
01:25:13,450 --> 01:25:15,010
This is sink and very informational.

900
01:25:15,170 --> 01:25:16,970
Thank you.

901
01:25:17,210 --> 01:25:17,750
And responsive.

902
01:25:19,810 --> 01:25:22,550
Okay, so if there are no further questions,

903
01:25:22,930 --> 01:25:25,090
then I would open the public hearing.

904
01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:33,850
726. We would look to hear comments from the public and the room on this item of business.

905
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:44,940
Hi there, my name is Paul Clark. Head of those questions with Linda. I've been here since 1976.

906
01:25:45,340 --> 01:25:56,680
I was on the planning commission that implemented the 1982 General Plan, which was replaced by the one that was approved in 2002, but not certified by the close to commission.

907
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:02,360
and two thousand five. So I have a little bit of knowledge. Part of this whole thing is a perception

908
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:06,740
of the cities going to lose this one. You already have the perception from a lot of the people

909
01:26:06,740 --> 01:26:14,300
in the community that I heard that you sold out everyone. This is a huge project. I would like to know,

910
01:26:14,300 --> 01:26:18,640
I looked up, I'm rambling a little bit, I took some notes, I looked up on the internet, found three

911
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:24,560
density bonus resources in California. One was San Francisco somewhere else.

912
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:32,600
the incentives, inclusionary housing, and centers that way they all offered was density bonus,

913
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:40,320
expediting process, expedited processing, fee-waters, parking reductions, and tax abatement of the

914
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:45,280
three I printed out none of them said anything about height restriction. That to me is a variance.

915
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:51,140
I don't want to understand it. We just agree with this. This is all coming around from

916
01:26:51,140 --> 01:26:58,900
the previous council of 2024. There was one change in the membership period. The city came up with

917
01:26:58,900 --> 01:27:08,580
their 200 units goal in 2026. That's absurd. But I can see you're the zeal of this property.

918
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:14,240
I'm disappointed that this has such a high density. I'm anxious to hear what the neighbors have to say.

919
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:20,860
Part of the problem is the groups that don't have any process.

920
01:27:21,140 --> 01:27:27,920
They're exempt from this. They're exempt from that. I've watched it anyway. I don't have too much time.

921
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:33,820
But normally in a project this big, the city, but of course they're exempt, you'd have

922
01:27:33,820 --> 01:27:38,260
story bowls out there, so people would see the size of the structure. They're not doing it.

923
01:27:38,540 --> 01:27:43,140
In Lindi, I think you'll back me up on this one. I could be wrong, but I think you're with me on this one.

924
01:27:43,260 --> 01:27:48,800
The intent of this general plan when it was done to have commercial buildings with residential

925
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:56,180
as an use permit, it's commercial, highway visitor commercial, commercial on the ground floor,

926
01:27:57,220 --> 01:28:02,780
secondary use would be residential. It's limited by the size of this is very different on

927
01:28:02,780 --> 01:28:10,520
shore. This plan has been changed much but I think that's what they talked about and the

928
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:16,480
commercial sizes are limited. So it limits the number of residences that could be feasibly

929
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:23,660
developer book. This is not a commercial mix. It is a residential property. It should be

930
01:28:23,660 --> 01:28:29,660
resolved. If that's what you want to do, I'm shocked that this application was even accepted

931
01:28:29,660 --> 01:28:34,640
by the city. It's unfortunate that the developers are doing this, but they don't understand

932
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:40,480
the community quite yet. But I'd have new people coming in and invested in the community. This

933
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:41,480
is bizarre.

934
01:28:42,580 --> 01:28:44,560
All right. Thank you. Other comments from folks on

935
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:45,280
them.

936
01:28:54,770 --> 01:28:56,170
Thank you for listening. My name is

937
01:28:56,170 --> 01:28:58,510
Kathleen Zerobby and I've heard this

938
01:28:58,510 --> 01:29:02,610
said before that I don't know when

939
01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:04,930
it rose. No.

940
01:29:05,550 --> 01:29:06,850
Marie, she had mentioned.

941
01:29:08,430 --> 01:29:10,630
Last, I think it was last meeting

942
01:29:10,630 --> 01:29:12,470
we got together. She mentioned something

943
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:15,880
again about the zone, the auto zone,

944
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:17,750
having four hundred ins,

945
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:20,550
a couple of little amount of people coming into AutoZone

946
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:22,990
that's going to be coming in this department complex.

947
01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:27,410
I disagree with that completely because, to me,

948
01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:30,510
all these people have children that have to go to school,

949
01:29:30,830 --> 01:29:33,610
come back from school, go to their sports,

950
01:29:33,650 --> 01:29:35,910
come back from sports and go to work, come back.

951
01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:38,410
You're going to say four and six people are,

952
01:29:38,410 --> 01:29:40,010
it's the same at AutoZone.

953
01:29:40,170 --> 01:29:42,310
I would have AutoZone and get a part in the home.

954
01:29:42,590 --> 01:29:44,770
If I have to get another part, okay, that's two.

955
01:29:44,770 --> 01:29:52,570
but I would never order in six as absurd to compare those two, and another thing when it was mentioned that

956
01:29:52,570 --> 01:29:57,790
while we had used to this traffic, what a shame. I loved this scene, and I loved this small

957
01:29:57,790 --> 01:29:59,970
the city and it was mentioned that we

958
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:17,000
I have to get used to this traffic. I don't want to get used to this. I came here to get away from that. Before you know it's going to be just like the Bay Area, just like San Francisco, just like all of it, trying to keep it small for all of us. So all these tourists, they left the small city. They want to come and see it.

959
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:23,340
want to be stuck at Ocean Drive and Highway 1 for 20 minutes direct. What the heck is what they

960
01:30:23,340 --> 01:30:27,660
will come at? They're saying it's just too busy. It's what happened to the city and it's

961
01:30:27,660 --> 01:30:35,000
one development. I'm not against development, go for it. But this is overboard. I think way overboard.

962
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:41,020
It's going to be so congested and all I'm saying, take a drive out there if you, if you will,

963
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:46,800
just take a drive. Our house is directly in front of this and that's okay. We were there first,

964
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:47,720
but that's okay.

965
01:30:48,440 --> 01:30:50,380
This driving, I don't know how long it's gonna take for me

966
01:30:50,380 --> 01:30:51,620
to get on ocean if you drive.

967
01:30:52,140 --> 01:30:55,040
Cause it's hard now to get on ocean if you drive sometimes.

968
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,960
And you can't really see on those sides.

969
01:30:57,060 --> 01:31:00,600
I drive it every day to have this amount of people

970
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,000
going up and down and then you know

971
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,200
is mentioned that we have a part that says

972
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:09,480
what did she mention of part where people have to stop

973
01:31:09,480 --> 01:31:11,420
and allow people that's not gonna happen.

974
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,080
People are not gonna hear that.

975
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:14,940
And I'm just saying it's gonna be a joke

976
01:31:14,940 --> 01:31:18,160
And I just don't want to see the city turn into the big city.

977
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,540
It's going to be because we're letting it happen.

978
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,820
So thank you very much.

979
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,240
All right. Thank you.

980
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,520
Anyone else like to comment in the room?

981
01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:36,040
Hi, my name is Patio.

982
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:37,660
Pat's and Marie Jones.

983
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:38,620
Thank you very much.

984
01:31:38,780 --> 01:31:42,400
That was informative and the size.

985
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,300
And I almost understood most of it.

986
01:31:46,780 --> 01:31:48,600
My objection is the height.

987
01:31:51,390 --> 01:32:03,430
And second, on that third floor, what are you going to look at, the ocean, and we folks here in town understand the cost of looking at the ocean.

988
01:32:04,410 --> 01:32:09,070
So my second concern is condo conversion.

989
01:32:10,450 --> 01:32:18,270
These folks, correct me, Marie, I'm not quite sure I understand there from out of the area, so this is investment property.

990
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:26,420
When they own the dolphin in, did Jason property, so I don't know if they're out of the area.

991
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,560
But Maria, I don't have to answer any questions right now.

992
01:32:29,740 --> 01:32:30,240
Thank you.

993
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:37,220
Well, if there are local folks at part of the community, you know, I'm all for that.

994
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:38,860
I'm all for them making a buck.

995
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:43,680
But I just see in the future, condo conversion is a writing on the wall.

996
01:32:44,420 --> 01:32:48,840
Now those six or eight units are protected, but the rest of those units,

997
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:58,260
And the associated traffic that comes with them, I just think folks aren't looking at that.

998
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:04,320
If this was condos, as if the initial applicant application was for condominiums,

999
01:33:04,940 --> 01:33:09,760
I think it'd be a different story. It will be condominiums.

1000
01:33:10,660 --> 01:33:16,040
Maybe none of my lifetime, but I think eventually it will be. Thank you.

1001
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,620
All right, thank you. Other comments.

1002
01:33:20,150 --> 01:33:26,350
Hi, Tim Bosma. I hope people can take this as just a bit of my

1003
01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:34,150
personal outlook on this rather than having it feel like it's some sort of attack on some of the

1004
01:33:34,150 --> 01:33:40,950
feelings about this project. But I think that one of the things that this is trying to do is trying

1005
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:48,370
address actual housing concerns that we have in our community. One of my main concerns that I have

1006
01:33:48,370 --> 01:33:52,870
as an employer is how difficult it is to have people who are coming in to an entry level at my

1007
01:33:52,870 --> 01:33:58,690
job and being able to find a place to live out here. This place has a tremendous drop of people,

1008
01:33:58,690 --> 01:34:04,490
people love the idea of living in such a wonderful place as Fort Bragg. The fact of the matter is

1009
01:34:05,150 --> 01:34:09,090
unless you already have something lined up for housing,

1010
01:34:09,570 --> 01:34:15,290
it is very difficult at the very least to find a place

1011
01:34:15,290 --> 01:34:16,670
to be able to live.

1012
01:34:17,070 --> 01:34:18,370
This is starting to address it.

1013
01:34:18,530 --> 01:34:23,050
I understand that people are upset because they feel that it's too much,

1014
01:34:23,470 --> 01:34:28,190
or it's too big, or there's concerns about how it's going to be used.

1015
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:30,970
I think that every single project that we do,

1016
01:34:30,970 --> 01:34:35,510
we should have a certain amount of housing

1017
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:38,990
that should be given to the workers in our community.

1018
01:34:40,030 --> 01:34:43,430
I have lost employees because they can not

1019
01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:45,710
find a place to live out here.

1020
01:34:45,870 --> 01:34:49,770
And I have people who have to leave on a regular basis

1021
01:34:49,770 --> 01:34:54,730
because they can not find a place to start a home with their families.

1022
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,180
I know it's difficult, but I would like to challenge

1023
01:35:00,180 --> 01:35:07,280
the people in this community to think about, where people that they would consider children,

1024
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:12,420
you know, their children growing up, where would they go to to live here in Fort Bragg?

1025
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:18,040
I'll leave it at that. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Other comments from folks in

1026
01:35:21,410 --> 01:35:29,370
Hi, my name is Judy Mascher as that, and I live out in Todd's point and the chief knows

1027
01:35:29,370 --> 01:35:29,670
me too.

1028
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:35,070
We have a lot of problems with the traffic already, we live out by the park, so we're not,

1029
01:35:35,230 --> 01:35:40,750
but we do have a well during a drought one time we did have to have water trucked in, so

1030
01:35:40,750 --> 01:35:47,170
we do get droughts here, but the traffic level, if you guys could just come out there, I'm

1031
01:35:47,170 --> 01:35:53,230
and talk a weekend is worse, even just during the week. Sunset, morning, we have cars coming

1032
01:35:53,230 --> 01:35:58,770
out there, 230, the main traffic starts around four, coming in and out, a couple of those

1033
01:35:58,770 --> 01:36:04,990
dark up and down the cliffway. And they're not driving this speed limit, you know, but also

1034
01:36:04,990 --> 01:36:17,150
there's no ADA access from what they want to develop to the trail. That trail is supposed to be

1035
01:36:17,150 --> 01:36:24,250
But there is no ADA. We have people walking down ocean view all the time during the summer.

1036
01:36:25,110 --> 01:36:30,890
Going down to look at the ocean view. It's dangerous. You come out of the harbor. You can't see.

1037
01:36:31,710 --> 01:36:35,530
Can't see when you're turning right or left. You've got a really full way out there.

1038
01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:45,470
But we do have people, bicycles, kids, parents, dogs, people walking their pets. They use ocean view constantly.

1039
01:36:45,470 --> 01:36:52,270
somebody's gonna get killed out there. This, so this thing is great, but this is not the right place for it.

1040
01:36:52,570 --> 01:36:58,250
Find another place, but not the gateway into Fort Drag, where tourists come to look.

1041
01:36:58,530 --> 01:37:03,110
Yes, you do get a glimpse of the ocean. No matter what anybody is going to tell me, I've been there.

1042
01:37:03,570 --> 01:37:08,050
I go there all the time. I can see the ocean. That's the first thing I look for.

1043
01:37:08,410 --> 01:37:12,390
First thing I look for, even before I bought here was the ocean view.

1044
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:20,150
And that's what we have. This thing is too big for this place. It's just too big. You're talking

1045
01:37:20,150 --> 01:37:27,710
three stories. That's, it doesn't even belong here. This city isn't ready for that size and

1046
01:37:27,710 --> 01:37:33,750
right there. Find another lot. I know they got the lot cheap and that's why they want to build it up.

1047
01:37:34,110 --> 01:37:40,150
Find somewhere to do it right. That is not the right place. It's dangerous. The traffic is going

1048
01:37:40,150 --> 01:37:47,910
be horrendous not only going on to ocean view coming from my way one, we come out 20, we have

1049
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:52,370
to pull out, we have to pull out to get in the turn lane, can you imagine the traffic we're

1050
01:37:52,370 --> 01:37:57,550
going to have backed up with people going to the apartments to get even down to ocean view.

1051
01:37:58,370 --> 01:38:02,670
Okay, so fire say there is a tsunami. How are we going to get out with all those cars?

1052
01:38:03,390 --> 01:38:09,250
That place is busy enough already. You can ask the police department how many automobiles are just

1053
01:38:09,250 --> 01:38:15,910
constantly. Traffic is extremely heavy and it's a dangerous. Somebody is going to get killed out there

1054
01:38:15,910 --> 01:38:22,890
walking. This thing is just too big for this area. We do need housing but not there. Thank you.

1055
01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:23,930
All right, thank you.

1056
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,560
My name is Brittany and I am a homeowner within Harbor RV trailer.

1057
01:38:36,300 --> 01:38:42,860
I'm going along with exactly what was said. The area's dangerous. I am one of those people that

1058
01:38:42,860 --> 01:38:50,100
lockdown, Harvard, Harvard view, I'm one of those people that almost get hit almost every day

1059
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:55,020
from someone driving entirely too fast, not paying attention. I'm one of the people that you

1060
01:38:55,020 --> 01:39:01,040
use Harvard Avenue to try and exit on that blind turn where you cannot see left or right.

1061
01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:08,440
Traffic from 87 units is going to make the congestion from the intersection of highway one,

1062
01:39:08,580 --> 01:39:13,320
an ocean view drive, far more difficult to manage, and it's going to add frustrations throughout

1063
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:20,200
entire day. A large item that not enough people are recognizing, it was finally stated earlier,

1064
01:39:22,370 --> 01:39:29,010
Harbor RV is not just residential, it's for tourism. So what happens during the high of

1065
01:39:29,010 --> 01:39:35,150
tourist season? You have traveling RVs, you have all the congestion from Emeralds often in it itself,

1066
01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:39,810
you have all the congestion from no-A river grill, you have all the congestion from the residents,

1067
01:39:39,810 --> 01:39:46,430
and you have all of the congestion from the POMO park. And now you want to add 107 parking spaces

1068
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:53,430
with multiple hundreds of people living in that small area. I understand at the initial meeting,

1069
01:39:53,950 --> 01:40:00,850
be prolonged to make the intersection longer for the track of traffic light. That doesn't work

1070
01:40:00,850 --> 01:40:06,570
with harbor avenue, being a blind turn, and it also doesn't work with the tightest turn

1071
01:40:06,570 --> 01:40:12,070
that is already on the unnamed front edge road. During the last city council meeting,

1072
01:40:13,270 --> 01:40:19,010
it was brought up by a lot of my neighbors that the parking lot should be moved to the east side.

1073
01:40:19,530 --> 01:40:24,710
That is a voice that needs to be looked at and concerned. However, avenue does not need to be

1074
01:40:24,710 --> 01:40:29,690
paved, that does not need to be the access point with these 107 parking slots. Do you want to do

1075
01:40:29,690 --> 01:40:34,630
anything with this project? Get it moved to the east side or it's a lot more feasible for the unnamed

1076
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:38,890
our community needs more housing.

1077
01:40:39,390 --> 01:40:41,970
I'm a person that spent 10 years trying to get a house

1078
01:40:41,970 --> 01:40:43,830
and I'm finally a homeowner in this community

1079
01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:46,870
of Harbor RB and the Poem of Bloops.

1080
01:40:47,230 --> 01:40:47,790
We need housing.

1081
01:40:48,450 --> 01:40:50,850
These plans, however, are too big.

1082
01:40:51,530 --> 01:40:52,330
It's too high.

1083
01:40:52,710 --> 01:40:53,990
It's too congested.

1084
01:40:54,750 --> 01:40:55,550
And I'm sorry.

1085
01:40:55,870 --> 01:40:58,930
The biggest thing we need to look at,

1086
01:40:59,090 --> 01:41:00,210
look at our coastal town.

1087
01:41:01,690 --> 01:41:04,610
Do we really want to destroy the classic

1088
01:41:04,610 --> 01:41:13,890
coastal eel of Fort Brad by when you enter, you see basically a skyscraper, representing

1089
01:41:13,890 --> 01:41:20,050
the cities, Pizmo Beach, Ventura. That's not what our communities about. That's not what

1090
01:41:20,050 --> 01:41:24,550
we need. Housing, yes, this development, no. Thank you.

1091
01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:27,330
All right, thank you. Anyone else?

1092
01:41:37,570 --> 01:41:42,930
Mayor, I want to say it's customary for the applicant to have a chance to speak as well.

1093
01:41:51,020 --> 01:41:54,480
I didn't know if everything was okay.

1094
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,460
Well, do you want to, are you suggesting we do that now?

1095
01:41:58,260 --> 01:42:05,460
Well, you're wish, but usually the applicant speaks before the public, but certainly they should at least have a chance to speak at some point.

1096
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,620
Absolutely, thank you.

1097
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:12,520
My name is Guy Burnett.

1098
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,380
I'm a resident on Barbara Avenue.

1099
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:19,620
And I'm asking you the please reschedule this hearing until the following

1100
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:38,240
violations are corrected, and all of the proposal changes, additions have been discussed, ruled-in, ruled-out, and there's a final plan, so you know, and we know what is on the table right now, it's pilot pudding.

1101
01:42:39,580 --> 01:42:47,620
The storm drain catchment plug is plugged in and does not functioning at Harbor Avenue and Ocean View.

1102
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:54,440
The city has refused, the city has refused to clean it up so that it would drain.

1103
01:42:55,260 --> 01:43:01,120
I get 20 to 30 gallons of minute running through my property when it's raining.

1104
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:17,060
This project, when the overflow goes in and they start trying to pump it into those drainage systems, I could see a hundred gallons a minute going through my property, undermining my fences and my walkways.

1105
01:43:18,700 --> 01:43:28,780
The light pollution is a failure of the down, where does it the downcast lighting? Those pictures you're looking at are taken from my property.

1106
01:43:28,780 --> 01:43:36,800
The first one is what the light comes into my bedroom at night, 24 or well, 16 hours at night.

1107
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:45,060
The others, you can't tell the difference on the 4th of July between Fort Bragg and the Youth Car Lot and Fresno.

1108
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:51,280
Let's see.

1109
01:43:54,670 --> 01:43:56,250
Well, okay.

1110
01:43:58,610 --> 01:44:08,670
The storm drains are non-functioning. That has to be resolved. I suggest that the storm

1111
01:44:08,670 --> 01:44:17,870
water drainage go north to the Pomo-Bless Park. Catchment basins are set up there to handle it

1112
01:44:17,870 --> 01:44:25,510
and it will go into that area and then the water will drain directly out into the ocean after it's

1113
01:44:25,510 --> 01:44:27,650
going through the soil.

1114
01:44:30,670 --> 01:44:35,550
The lighting, if you guys take a look at it, it's, it's a

1115
01:44:35,550 --> 01:44:40,430
visible. Those were pictures taken from my property, not somewhere else. Those

1116
01:44:40,430 --> 01:44:47,250
lights shine direct up to 200 feet away. This is a downcast and this is going to

1117
01:44:47,250 --> 01:44:53,770
be the same owner, the same property manager, is going to put lighting a significant

1118
01:44:53,770 --> 01:44:59,010
scale. Is this what their standards are going to be? We might as well do this.

1119
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:18,540
Put in a drive in out there. At least everybody could watch something from it. So please cancel this vote until you actually get these conditions in writing on paper and a commitment. Otherwise, you're just walking away from your obligation. Thank you.

1120
01:45:18,620 --> 01:45:23,540
Thank you. I would like to invite the developer to speak the applicant.

1121
01:45:27,150 --> 01:45:30,990
Hello, my name is Cosh Graywell, and I'm the applicant for the project.

1122
01:45:31,810 --> 01:45:34,430
The rest of our team is also on Zoom as well.

1123
01:45:34,990 --> 01:45:38,210
And they'd be happy to answer any questions that you guys might have.

1124
01:45:38,530 --> 01:45:42,290
And a lot of the questions citizens of Fort Bragg had as well.

1125
01:45:43,110 --> 01:45:46,710
And if you guys have any questions that I can answer right now, I graciously do that.

1126
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:49,150
Alex, do you have any questions for the applicant?

1127
01:45:52,670 --> 01:45:55,630
One of the big concerns seems to be height.

1128
01:45:58,010 --> 01:45:59,570
Anyway, you can bring it down.

1129
01:46:01,090 --> 01:46:03,290
I hope you've been through this, if you've seen the numbers.

1130
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:04,690
I'm sure you have.

1131
01:46:05,090 --> 01:46:08,290
I'd like it explained how it went from 26 to 37.

1132
01:46:09,870 --> 01:46:10,970
And it's in the coastal zone.

1133
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:13,250
It's clearly a concern for a lot of people being

1134
01:46:13,250 --> 01:46:14,510
to get way to our community.

1135
01:46:15,190 --> 01:46:17,550
And you probably didn't see all the public comments.

1136
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:18,550
We got quite a few.

1137
01:46:18,850 --> 01:46:21,470
And primarily, a lot of them had to do with the height.

1138
01:46:22,170 --> 01:46:24,750
But if it wasn't that high, you know, you didn't hear a lot of concern.

1139
01:46:25,210 --> 01:46:27,470
There were other concerns, but that seemed to be a big one.

1140
01:46:27,650 --> 01:46:28,970
And for me, it's kind of a big one too.

1141
01:46:29,110 --> 01:46:31,110
So I'm just curious, is there any way?

1142
01:46:31,410 --> 01:46:35,910
You can pencil things out and make it work without taking it up, 37 feet.

1143
01:46:37,570 --> 01:46:40,670
Well, I'll answer it, and then I'll have the rest of our team also answer it.

1144
01:46:40,990 --> 01:46:45,250
The way the project's currently laid out is if we ended up taking away a story that would

1145
01:46:45,250 --> 01:46:51,170
reduce the project size by 33% and then that would not pencil out.

1146
01:46:51,170 --> 01:46:58,930
And the other thing is, since we are going out of higher height, we're also utilizing less land in terms of the footprint of land.

1147
01:46:59,890 --> 01:47:03,950
And since we're utilizing less footprint of land, there's more pervious surface.

1148
01:47:04,610 --> 01:47:11,770
As opposed to when you have a lower height, you have to utilize more space to have the same amount of units.

1149
01:47:14,490 --> 01:47:23,270
Yeah, thank you. So if there's no way you could reduce the units and have it work financially is basically what you're saying you have to have that many units and to keep the soil the groundwater going.

1150
01:47:23,490 --> 01:47:25,430
You figure take it up.

1151
01:47:25,730 --> 01:47:37,950
Yes, sir. And the other thing is is if we like what you were saying if we had the same amount of units and we didn't have the third floor, then there would be less space for parking less space for common open space less space for patios.

1152
01:47:37,950 --> 01:47:42,590
Um, less space for a playground and all that other stuff. So it wouldn't be fees.

1153
01:47:46,490 --> 01:47:48,470
Colleagues to other questions. Councilman Rollinsmith.

1154
01:47:49,950 --> 01:47:51,270
Thanks for being here.

1155
01:47:52,690 --> 01:47:55,190
Um, my questions are about parking and drainage.

1156
01:47:56,770 --> 01:47:59,830
So that's a lot of cars and that's a big parking area.

1157
01:48:00,110 --> 01:48:02,370
And there was a suggestion we moved it to the east side.

1158
01:48:02,370 --> 01:48:03,510
Is that even possible?

1159
01:48:04,890 --> 01:48:09,610
Is do you own the other side or is this something the city is set up or?

1160
01:48:10,570 --> 01:48:14,970
When we're talking about the East side or you're talking about the East side of Highway 1 or

1161
01:48:14,970 --> 01:48:16,950
what are we conversing East side here?

1162
01:48:17,210 --> 01:48:18,050
There was a suggestion.

1163
01:48:18,250 --> 01:48:21,870
Right up to the front of the road and other words, to say having the parking and you go down

1164
01:48:21,870 --> 01:48:24,470
and turn them all in, come in the back, come in the front.

1165
01:48:24,610 --> 01:48:26,730
That's if you're going to North Cliff with an output store.

1166
01:48:27,170 --> 01:48:27,990
Can you move to the parking?

1167
01:48:28,370 --> 01:48:29,590
I think that's what you meant, right?

1168
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:30,490
Yeah.

1169
01:48:30,490 --> 01:48:31,930
I think that's the comment.

1170
01:48:32,630 --> 01:48:35,930
Yeah, essentially you're saying to put the buildings or the parking currently isn't

1171
01:48:35,930 --> 01:48:37,550
but the parking what buildings are currently.

1172
01:48:37,550 --> 01:48:39,670
If I'm understanding correctly.

1173
01:48:40,130 --> 01:48:54,670
Yeah, we need parking this up is a problem because there's the as the commenter said there's there's the RV park. There's the restaurant. There's the trail. There's all the things that people are going to and that street is really good just it.

1174
01:48:54,670 --> 01:49:17,570
So, I just want to interrupt here and just let you know that the zoning code requires the parking be to the side and behind development of any sort in for frags, so if you want him to have the parking in front of the building, then you would need to approve of variance for that or make it one of the incentives.

1175
01:49:17,570 --> 01:49:25,450
could have to be additional and understand we have additional parking rather than the required.

1176
01:49:26,670 --> 01:49:31,110
So you want to require more parking than is required by this phone as long.

1177
01:49:31,230 --> 01:49:33,550
I do not believe you can do that, but I'll know.

1178
01:49:33,670 --> 01:49:34,930
And further the attorney.

1179
01:49:35,170 --> 01:49:35,330
All right.

1180
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:38,670
I'm doing the shakehead.

1181
01:49:38,770 --> 01:49:39,870
Can I?

1182
01:49:39,870 --> 01:49:40,270
Excuse me.

1183
01:49:40,690 --> 01:49:43,610
And then related to that drainage.

1184
01:49:43,610 --> 01:49:52,730
Well, this project actually improved drainage for everyone actually in the end, it sounded like a lot of work was going to be done to improve the drainage.

1185
01:49:56,530 --> 01:49:58,550
So we're like all over the map.

1186
01:49:58,590 --> 01:50:02,950
I think you need to direct your questions the applicant now and then direct other questions.

1187
01:50:02,950 --> 01:50:04,170
I'm not sure later the answer.

1188
01:50:04,770 --> 01:50:05,630
So I'll follow up.

1189
01:50:05,950 --> 01:50:11,050
I did want to let folks know that the planner for the applicant would also love to be able to comment on someone's questions.

1190
01:50:11,050 --> 01:50:16,770
So, Mary, we'll train from HR GA as online and she wants to speak about your question.

1191
01:50:17,770 --> 01:50:22,810
Hi, everyone. Yeah, Mary from HR GA. Yeah, so to speak on the parking a little bit.

1192
01:50:23,090 --> 01:50:26,770
I think, you know, I'm hearing obviously some concerns about the height.

1193
01:50:27,250 --> 01:50:32,550
And so, from a planning standpoint, point with the single family homes to the west.

1194
01:50:33,050 --> 01:50:40,070
If we were to move the buildings as far west as possible, we actually would appear taller to those single family homes.

1195
01:50:40,070 --> 01:51:08,310
So part of the planning of this project as long as well as trying to meet, you know zoning codes, it actually is perceived, you know, more at the accurate height level or smaller to residents if they're pushed away. So we have, you know, we have, I don't know the number off the top of my head, but, you know, with, with parking two rows of parking and, you know, we have landscape and a drive out. So you end up with, you know, I'm going to guess 80 feet set back or more from those residents.

1196
01:51:08,850 --> 01:51:13,310
It does help with the overall perception of the height, so that was definitely in consideration.

1197
01:51:14,750 --> 01:51:20,010
And I just worry about efficiency because of the way that the site's kind of triangular.

1198
01:51:20,290 --> 01:51:23,170
You know, would we end up losing parking, which we were trying to maximize.

1199
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:28,090
Parking as much as possible, so that it's the most efficient layout.

1200
01:51:29,250 --> 01:51:36,030
And then, you know, just trying to provide two access points to that in an event, you know, an emergency or what not.

1201
01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:39,730
So they do have access off the unnamed rowed and herber Avenue.

1202
01:51:40,690 --> 01:51:43,490
So it should have a good flow through the project.

1203
01:51:44,010 --> 01:51:48,290
And I do think Marie mentioned quite a bit of the project

1204
01:51:48,290 --> 01:51:51,890
is actually only the 32 foot height limit.

1205
01:51:54,090 --> 01:51:57,710
So the whole bill, as far as NASA is concerned,

1206
01:51:57,930 --> 01:52:01,130
is like we really are trying to create variation of roof lines.

1207
01:52:01,850 --> 01:52:03,650
And I know you get a lot of rain and Fort Bragg.

1208
01:52:03,650 --> 01:52:16,310
So, only like the very top of, you know, corners or kind of design elements of the buildings will have the 37.8, but majority of the massing is at 32 too.

1209
01:52:16,930 --> 01:52:30,290
And unfortunately, I think like all the reasons cost mentioned, if we were to try to strengthen the building at any point beyond what we've already done, that we would have to take a floor off and I know, you know, we would try to maximize.

1210
01:52:30,970 --> 01:52:38,290
at a two-story level, we just wouldn't be able to fit all the elements. You know, then we would be having a discussion about not having anywhere near enough parking or

1211
01:52:39,170 --> 01:52:46,830
I know you have, yeah, requirements for large patios and all that. So, and I'm happy to answer any more questions that come up specifically about the architecture of the site layout.

1212
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:53,680
Right, any other questions, colleagues? Well, we have to go.

1213
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:58,600
Oh, it was just that question about drainage, but I think that that's not a planning element.

1214
01:52:59,380 --> 01:53:01,240
It's more about that, Dr. Ben.

1215
01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:03,140
And I might able to speak.

1216
01:53:05,530 --> 01:53:11,470
Yeah, so Omar is going to speak. He's part of JTS engineering. He's the engineering consultant on the project.

1217
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:17,530
Yeah, hi. My name's Omar to be in my JTS engineering. So the project, we're meeting anything

1218
01:53:17,530 --> 01:53:24,490
for this project. We had to do a drainage report. That drainage report looked at the entire shed

1219
01:53:24,490 --> 01:53:30,150
and all the water that was going to come in a sort of storm event. So we did a report that was

1220
01:53:30,150 --> 01:53:38,970
about eight pages, which is an entire study about everything. And so basically what we're proposing

1221
01:53:38,970 --> 01:53:44,470
to do number one is that all the water is going to be mitigated on site. There's not going to be any

1222
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:49,090
enough that's going to go on any street so I understand neighbors are concerned about drainage

1223
01:53:49,090 --> 01:53:52,470
issues, but just know that all the water will be contained on our site.

1224
01:53:53,570 --> 01:53:58,670
And another thing is that our design is actually improving the proposed conditions.

1225
01:53:58,950 --> 01:54:04,870
The existing condition is actually worse than what we're proposing to mitigate and to distribute

1226
01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:05,370
everywhere.

1227
01:54:05,950 --> 01:54:09,630
So to the drain system, I mean so the point being is that I don't think drainage should

1228
01:54:09,630 --> 01:54:15,810
concerned. We have addressed all the points currently. Our dream study still under review

1229
01:54:15,810 --> 01:54:20,950
with the City of Fort Bragg waiting for our final comments from them. But everything on R&D

1230
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:25,210
has been addressed. We're improving the situation. It's not making worse. Neighbors, we're not

1231
01:54:25,210 --> 01:54:30,670
going to be flooding. There's not going to be any sort of issues on that end. So I just wanted to

1232
01:54:30,670 --> 01:54:38,350
provide that information for you guys. Thank you. Okay. One more question about the lighting.

1233
01:54:38,350 --> 01:54:56,650
It was an issue about the lighting that would be for our architect, I'm sure if I can speak on it, I know you guys have a code requirement, which is very common all over California that it's dark sky compliant and will be shielded.

1234
01:54:56,650 --> 01:55:01,670
So it will make sure that no light is spilled off of the site.

1235
01:55:01,670 --> 01:55:04,190
It will be directed to the parking areas.

1236
01:55:04,890 --> 01:55:08,510
And we submitted a lighting plan that had the photometric.

1237
01:55:08,930 --> 01:55:11,210
So it shows all the lighting levels throughout the site.

1238
01:55:11,330 --> 01:55:16,330
So there should be no light off of our property.

1239
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:19,470
And does that include our street lights?

1240
01:55:19,670 --> 01:55:21,250
Are we going to put street lights in?

1241
01:55:23,380 --> 01:55:24,780
I don't want no plan for that.

1242
01:55:24,780 --> 01:55:30,180
I don't think there is, I don't know, maybe Marie can speak if there was a condition added.

1243
01:55:30,300 --> 01:55:31,380
We're not showing street lights.

1244
01:55:31,500 --> 01:55:34,160
We're just showing all the parking lot and building lighting at this point.

1245
01:55:34,900 --> 01:55:38,400
But if there is, we would follow the city requirements for street lights.

1246
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:48,620
We do not have any special conditions requiring street lights as part of this project.

1247
01:55:49,140 --> 01:55:51,620
That area of town does not have street lights.

1248
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,120
Got it. Thank you.

1249
01:55:55,850 --> 01:55:56,830
Any other questions?

1250
01:55:56,830 --> 01:55:58,170
That's why we have that here.

1251
01:56:00,150 --> 01:56:01,890
Thank you so much, be in here.

1252
01:56:01,970 --> 01:56:03,350
And thanks to those of you who are online.

1253
01:56:03,690 --> 01:56:04,550
Thank you.

1254
01:56:05,250 --> 01:56:07,730
All right, I would like to allow anyone else

1255
01:56:07,730 --> 01:56:08,670
in the room to speak.

1256
01:56:16,870 --> 01:56:17,810
Thank you for your time.

1257
01:56:18,030 --> 01:56:19,130
My name is Hammett Sarabi.

1258
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:22,890
And I've gone through four of these meetings

1259
01:56:22,890 --> 01:56:25,070
so far in regards to this apartment project.

1260
01:56:26,410 --> 01:56:30,230
And we still don't know what is going to happen

1261
01:56:30,230 --> 01:56:31,790
to Harbor Avenue.

1262
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:38,890
There's things saying that half of it's going to be paid, the other half is going to be left gravel.

1263
01:56:39,530 --> 01:56:46,630
Something mentioning that they might do the whole 50 feet and put a corporate on the palm one side.

1264
01:56:47,230 --> 01:56:53,890
What's it going to be? There's four of us that live on that property on that street.

1265
01:56:53,890 --> 01:57:00,350
We are important. We are going to be really impacted by this project and I'd like to know

1266
01:57:00,350 --> 01:57:08,790
where do I go? Maybe not here, but I would appreciate if someone would tell me where do I go in the city to get a final resolution?

1267
01:57:09,330 --> 01:57:17,790
What is going to happen to Harbor Avenue? Not Simpson Street, not Harbor Drive as is mentioned in this report.

1268
01:57:17,790 --> 01:57:28,870
It's very confusing. I would really appreciate someone telling me where do we go to see the final plan for Harbor Avenue.

1269
01:57:31,540 --> 01:57:40,900
And it's going to look ridiculous. Until this year, I hate to say that City didn't even know Harbor Avenue existed.

1270
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:45,500
I've been down there in the city twice as two years.

1271
01:57:46,540 --> 01:57:53,560
I have to bring it on Google to say this is Harbor Avenue, that's sad and I was told last

1272
01:57:53,560 --> 01:58:01,640
time I was there that we have no intention of improving that road in the near future or might

1273
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:06,920
not even happen in the long future because there's only four of you live on that street.

1274
01:58:07,780 --> 01:58:13,740
And now all of a sudden this is going to be a parking lot on my way over here.

1275
01:58:13,740 --> 01:58:23,280
This wasn't even a dinner time yet, the no-name street was completely parked cars on both sides because of the restaurant,

1276
01:58:24,540 --> 01:58:31,140
which does their business, you know, people want to believe it or not, it was full, completely on both sides.

1277
01:58:31,900 --> 01:58:34,780
And now we're going to put another 200 vehicles in that area.

1278
01:58:35,460 --> 01:58:37,960
That's not good decision.

1279
01:58:39,020 --> 01:58:40,780
Parking is very important.

1280
01:58:41,660 --> 01:58:44,260
Before this meeting is over or somebody,

1281
01:58:45,060 --> 01:58:46,240
the city has my email.

1282
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:50,580
We need to know what is going to happen to harbor avenue.

1283
01:58:51,300 --> 01:58:53,340
A final decision is it going to be paid.

1284
01:58:53,740 --> 01:58:54,660
Is it going to be gravel?

1285
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:56,420
Is it going to be all paid?

1286
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:58,440
It's ridiculous.

1287
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:00,740
It's become a funny issue.

1288
01:59:02,260 --> 01:59:03,160
Thank you.

1289
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,140
Okay, thank you. You want to also learn.

1290
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:09,160
Hi, and say goodbye to Justin.

1291
01:59:09,860 --> 01:59:15,040
In line with the last commenter, I actually think it's quite important that if this is approved,

1292
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:22,800
the city require two special conditions that the entire widths of harbor avenue be improved by the applicant.

1293
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:30,520
It just doesn't make sense to me that that wasn't already recommendation that's pretty normal.

1294
01:59:32,900 --> 01:59:50,080
And anyway, just that, and then I just wanted to make sure, and maybe somebody mentioned this before, but that in special conditions five, it should shouldn't say North Harper drive, you just need to add to it, but I was gone for events, and maybe that was already difficult. So you need to add it to the language to make it correct. Thanks.

1295
01:59:51,780 --> 01:59:53,720
All right. Thank you. Anyone else in the room?

1296
01:59:59,420 --> 01:59:59,980
I'm Mary Jeff.

1297
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,340
Good afternoon, everyone. I live on Harbor Avenue, and I've reached out to you a couple of times, but I have a receipt of response to questions in general.

1298
02:00:10,580 --> 02:00:26,200
And I would really hope a traffic study could be done on the intersection and for us on the harbor, because I'm really concerned. I have teenagers who drive skate like, so that's it. Thank you.

1299
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:28,120
Good, thank you.

1300
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:29,480
Anyone else in the room?

1301
02:00:37,180 --> 02:00:41,880
I am Pam Pell, and we live out on Todd's point.

1302
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:58,120
And it's really wonderful to see that people have maintained Todd's point in such a beautiful way.

1303
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:11,700
But it's on the tipping point of breaking loose and it's just, it's, there's a lot of traffic on it already.

1304
02:01:13,860 --> 02:01:25,260
So I hate to see that, but once you put that parking in and all of that are people gonna just be, you know,

1305
02:01:25,260 --> 02:01:45,740
using it as their play yard and to some extent, I love people and I don't mind some changes, but I think it's not going to change in a positive way.

1306
02:01:45,740 --> 02:01:57,270
And we love our little space on Todd White and it's we

1307
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:08,200
just really love it here and would like to really maintain it.

1308
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:09,880
Thank you.

1309
02:02:10,620 --> 02:02:12,140
All right, thank you.

1310
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:13,400
Anyone else in there?

1311
02:02:19,210 --> 02:02:22,930
I'd like to see, you know, more housing for everybody.

1312
02:02:22,930 --> 02:02:32,750
But I'm sure in Shaw, the owner of Harbor RV Park, and we've been trying to, since I had to

1313
02:02:32,750 --> 02:02:46,190
repossess it, get things done, PG&E were aving, put a signpost, no parking, and it's taking

1314
02:02:46,190 --> 02:02:54,270
us years and years to get this stuff done. So I can't imagine how this apartment building

1315
02:02:54,270 --> 02:03:00,470
is going to go up so fast. I have one question about law enforcement. Is it going to be

1316
02:03:00,470 --> 02:03:07,170
increased number one? Number two, 4th of July, you guys should all come to Harbor Harve Park

1317
02:03:08,210 --> 02:03:15,730
and try to walk. Just try to walk because of the cars, everybody comes where we don't

1318
02:03:15,730 --> 02:03:26,970
care, we just don't want people intruding in our power or our residents or our guests. So I think

1319
02:03:27,190 --> 02:03:36,650
the amount of buildings that are going up is just way overboard for that area. And it is the

1320
02:03:36,650 --> 02:03:41,650
project problem. So thank you.

1321
02:03:42,450 --> 02:03:43,830
Thank you.

1322
02:03:44,750 --> 02:03:45,450
Anyone else more?

1323
02:03:53,780 --> 02:03:54,820
Hi. When he was healed,

1324
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,020
Strapard and I live on top point.

1325
02:03:57,600 --> 02:04:00,760
One of the things I haven't heard mentioned is the college.

1326
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:05,540
College has a lot of student activities and

1327
02:04:05,540 --> 02:04:08,600
ingress the Negroes comes out to ocean view.

1328
02:04:09,300 --> 02:04:11,040
So I agree with all the comments.

1329
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,840
It's a really dense, well, very already,

1330
02:04:14,300 --> 02:04:19,900
have a cold, so a little shaky, but I don't think

1331
02:04:19,900 --> 02:04:21,300
you should have proved this project.

1332
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:22,420
I really don't.

1333
02:04:23,140 --> 02:04:24,720
I think it's way too big.

1334
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:29,740
I don't quite understand why the height and some parts

1335
02:04:29,740 --> 02:04:33,300
of it impact the number of parking spaces

1336
02:04:33,300 --> 02:04:36,100
that seems not quite clear.

1337
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:39,920
But anyway, those are my comments.

1338
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:40,920
Thank you.

1339
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:41,960
All right.

1340
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:42,740
Thank you.

1341
02:04:42,860 --> 02:04:43,300
Anyone else?

1342
02:04:48,430 --> 02:04:51,330
I'm so sorry, but you cannot come back to speak again.

1343
02:04:56,700 --> 02:04:56,940
All right.

1344
02:04:57,120 --> 02:05:00,540
So Madam Clerk, anybody on line?

1345
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:06,000
Please use the raise hand feature for public common item 7A.

1346
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:07,740
And we have three.

1347
02:05:13,430 --> 02:05:15,190
Andrew Jordan, you have three minutes.

1348
02:05:19,810 --> 02:05:20,330
Am I audible?

1349
02:05:22,190 --> 02:05:22,410
Yes.

1350
02:05:23,870 --> 02:05:24,890
Can you hear me?

1351
02:05:27,010 --> 02:05:27,270
Hello?

1352
02:05:28,570 --> 02:05:28,710
Yes.

1353
02:05:28,710 --> 02:05:33,230
can hear you in there. Thanks. Yeah, I just need to check that there's no way for me to tell.

1354
02:05:34,530 --> 02:05:38,510
Just a couple of issues. I raised this earlier and I appreciate it being addressed by Ms. Jones

1355
02:05:39,210 --> 02:05:44,450
is like the incentive or low income units because it seems to me that there's one number

1356
02:05:44,450 --> 02:05:51,150
when the project is proposed and then there's another one when it is actually finalized and it just

1357
02:05:51,150 --> 02:05:58,130
seems to me that there's a lot of play there that could be exploited by somebody who maybe was wanting

1358
02:05:58,130 --> 02:06:00,970
to take advantage of that gap.

1359
02:06:04,990 --> 02:06:08,710
From what I can hear, and from what I heard previously, this

1360
02:06:08,710 --> 02:06:13,350
is kind of the sausage factory of legislation. There is just a whole lot of issues all

1361
02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:19,330
at once, and there are lots of degrees of knowledge with respect to the particulars of what

1362
02:06:19,330 --> 02:06:26,550
actually goes into creating a project like this when a lot of effort and expenses may

1363
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:33,750
to accommodate legislation and regulatory authority and what specifically the grounds for denial

1364
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:42,110
could be for making changes in the like. Some concerns I have are basically pedestrian traffic

1365
02:06:42,110 --> 02:06:48,470
to McDonald's, the boatyard shopping center into the grocery outlet. I think that's going to

1366
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:53,430
probably be built at some point and so I'm kind of concerned especially with families there with

1367
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:59,010
children, you can't keep watch on them 24 hours a day and you can't put them on a leash,

1368
02:06:59,450 --> 02:07:05,890
and so with the speed of traffic along highway one main street, I think that might be a concern.

1369
02:07:08,830 --> 02:07:16,170
I think this project is basically the start of not quite gentrification, but a change of the

1370
02:07:16,170 --> 02:07:30,730
of the community because of the size and the character of the apartment buildings here and with regards to the future aspects of possibly converting to condominiums, which might be very attractive.

1371
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:45,300
It's my hope that the city council will take that into account according to their understanding of the history and the context of the project and the city and the community.

1372
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:49,640
And I hope that it works for the best because housing isn't issue.

1373
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:54,820
But one of the reasons why Fort Bragg is attractive is because it's not highly developed.

1374
02:07:56,460 --> 02:07:57,620
Thank you very much.

1375
02:08:00,270 --> 02:08:00,530
Thank you.

1376
02:08:02,450 --> 02:08:04,450
Jenny, you have three minutes?

1377
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:08,580
Great, Jenny.

1378
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:09,200
Shedic.

1379
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:15,640
Um, when Lindy had commented at the very beginning about the bridge traffic in the center lane

1380
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:16,720
and putting a divider.

1381
02:08:17,220 --> 02:08:21,400
However, I do believe when that bridge was designed after my brother died.

1382
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:26,560
It was for emergency vehicles to travel down the center of that bridge and continue on both directions

1383
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:27,320
down the center.

1384
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:35,340
However, I would love to see a no left hand turn like there was on the north side on all corners.

1385
02:08:35,340 --> 02:08:40,280
of the bridge. So no one was making left-hand turns to cross traffic because it's dangerous.

1386
02:08:41,140 --> 02:08:52,160
Also, cow trans could at the very least move the turn lane signs, which are actually past the turn into the

1387
02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:59,260
RV park and restaurant and are actually like 20 feet before the bridge parallel to the restaurant.

1388
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:05,120
That's just my main concern is people getting in and out of their safely. Okay, thanks.

1389
02:09:16,340 --> 02:09:26,200
I'm glad that Linda Peters, the mayor and the vice mayor, reviewed the video from the planning commission or some of it.

1390
02:09:26,860 --> 02:09:29,880
I hope you also read all the written comments.

1391
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:40,700
I know Lindy has been knowledgeable about the hair Creek sites since 1991 and unfortunately the planning commission

1392
02:09:40,700 --> 02:09:47,360
don't have that historic knowledge or probably some of you don't either.

1393
02:09:48,740 --> 02:09:58,960
When you look at the comments there were 10 comments with the planning commission online against the project

1394
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:10,940
and one for the project. This time around you have 20 written comments against the project and one in favor of the project.

1395
02:10:12,580 --> 02:10:20,100
It seems that so many issues are still not solid.

1396
02:10:20,660 --> 02:10:30,560
There are lots of mistakes and I agree with Mr. Burnett that all this should be clarified

1397
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:35,460
so that the city council actually knows what they're voting for.

1398
02:10:35,460 --> 02:10:46,460
And many of the issues are delegated to the planning department, like playground or so.

1399
02:10:47,420 --> 02:10:57,580
Mr. Burnett had altogether 13's points that he submitted for the planning commission meeting,

1400
02:10:57,980 --> 02:11:03,640
and they should be included and added to the 37 conditions.

1401
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:11,700
And when you have that many special conditions, you realize something is really off.

1402
02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:24,340
And to just base the idea that the viewset doesn't matter because the city has a graph where it doesn't show to me is just ridiculous.

1403
02:11:24,340 --> 02:11:34,980
with the auto zone. It was clear that the study had to be done and I submitted that in my written comments.

1404
02:11:35,700 --> 02:11:48,740
The study that was done for the auto zone in terms of the view. They also had a catchment area and I would like to know why that hasn't been addressed.

1405
02:11:48,740 --> 02:11:56,960
This is gross and inducing it's a high-rise development that the gateway to Fort Brake.

1406
02:11:57,380 --> 02:12:00,640
There are many unresolved cumulative impacts.

1407
02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:05,940
It would be presidents setting for the meal site and other developments.

1408
02:12:06,660 --> 02:12:22,800
It's hard enough that we have the hotel that went over size, but that was another story.

1409
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:27,340
So there are three minutes left.

1410
02:12:27,980 --> 02:12:32,900
Can you any final words or

1411
02:12:35,080 --> 02:12:36,940
any other comment or sound line?

1412
02:12:36,940 --> 02:12:39,560
We have Jane McMarton, we have three minutes.

1413
02:12:41,930 --> 02:12:42,470
Thank you.

1414
02:12:42,930 --> 02:12:45,210
I just wanted to say Marie mentioned,

1415
02:12:45,290 --> 02:12:46,630
because I had mentioned that the planning

1416
02:12:46,630 --> 02:12:51,530
commission about the school bus picked up an MTA,

1417
02:12:52,470 --> 02:12:54,550
and she said she was going to leave it up to them.

1418
02:12:55,070 --> 02:12:59,250
But I feel a new traffic study should be done,

1419
02:12:59,550 --> 02:13:01,950
because it's a different type of traffic.

1420
02:13:02,650 --> 02:13:06,350
There's going to be more cars at certain times,

1421
02:13:06,350 --> 02:13:11,330
more people coming and going to work, dropping, leaving to take kids to school, picking

1422
02:13:11,330 --> 02:13:19,410
kids up, teenagers driving, and I just think the traffic study done for autosone was done

1423
02:13:19,410 --> 02:13:25,150
mostly with traffic between the hours that autosone was going to be open. So I think that's

1424
02:13:25,150 --> 02:13:32,410
your revelant, in this case, where it's a residential, and I really would like to see a new traffic

1425
02:13:32,410 --> 02:13:40,610
study done, and I think you need to think about the public safety and and just do

1426
02:13:40,610 --> 02:13:43,090
another traffic study because things have changed.

1427
02:13:43,590 --> 02:13:50,310
More people are going to the Puma Bluffs, the restaurant was not there, the current restaurant

1428
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:55,290
was not there, the Nojo River Grill, when the traffic study was done.

1429
02:13:56,030 --> 02:14:00,450
And there's been a lot of changes out there and some additional housing added and so I would

1430
02:14:00,450 --> 02:14:07,590
really encourage you before you approve this to consider that. I also hope you will read all of

1431
02:14:07,590 --> 02:14:12,410
Mr. Clark's comments. I read through them today. I was also on the planning commission

1432
02:14:12,410 --> 02:14:19,950
in 1982 when we did the original general plan. So anyway, thank you for your time and maybe this

1433
02:14:19,950 --> 02:14:26,450
should go back to the drawing board a bit and come back before the city council at a future date.

1434
02:14:26,450 --> 02:14:32,050
And I know the applicant's anxious to get going, but we got to make sure that everything's

1435
02:14:32,050 --> 02:14:37,910
done in the best interest of the community, the residents that live there, the children

1436
02:14:37,910 --> 02:14:44,230
that are going to live there, and the people that are going to go out and look at the

1437
02:14:44,230 --> 02:14:47,930
bluffs and visit the restaurants and stuff.

1438
02:14:48,330 --> 02:14:49,350
So anyway, thank you.

1439
02:14:51,490 --> 02:14:52,050
Thank you.

1440
02:14:52,270 --> 02:14:52,370
Thank you.

1441
02:14:52,450 --> 02:14:52,850
Any other comments?

1442
02:14:52,850 --> 02:14:57,470
more. Please use the raise hand feature for public comment on item 7A.

1443
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,400
There are no hands.

1444
02:15:04,420 --> 02:15:13,180
All right. And I think I will conclude the public hearing, unless our attorney has something to add. It will be appropriate to allow the applicant to respond to this point and share with, like, absolutely.

1445
02:15:13,900 --> 02:15:16,840
Do you like Mr. Brody, have anything to add?

1446
02:15:19,780 --> 02:15:24,240
I would have nothing else to add. And then, unless someone else from our team would like to add anything.

1447
02:15:26,540 --> 02:15:30,100
Anyone from the team online? Have anything to add?

1448
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:38,780
I don't think I have anything to add, either this is Mary again from HJ, but I'm happy to answer if there's any more questions that you cancel have.

1449
02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:47,840
All right, then with that, I will close the public hearing. It is eight, sixteen.

1450
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:51,580
I'd be a good time for a break.

1451
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:55,100
Wow, Council member Peter, so I was just about to ask colleagues.

1452
02:15:55,540 --> 02:15:57,420
I think felt that this was appropriate time for a break.

1453
02:15:57,740 --> 02:15:58,140
Thank you.

1454
02:15:58,240 --> 02:15:59,500
You beat me to it.

1455
02:15:59,780 --> 02:16:02,920
Yes, we will take a seven minute break.

1456
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:08,380
seven of right we'll be back here at twenty four eight twenty four

1457
02:28:24,700 --> 02:28:25,300
if there

1458
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:33,880
were not enough public co-berness or input at the beginning of this way

1459
02:28:33,880 --> 02:28:39,920
back in September now they're aware and now they have better ideas rather

1460
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:46,760
than saying no to this project is there any way we can go back and accept the

1461
02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:52,100
look input and see if there are some changes that would make the residents, the neighbors,

1462
02:28:53,500 --> 02:29:01,660
the neighbors, in particular, work out all those things that they think are a significant

1463
02:29:01,660 --> 02:29:06,820
impact to them. At this point, can we do that?

1464
02:29:06,880 --> 02:29:12,580
Well, I'm sorry that question is too vague for me to answer, because all of the concerns

1465
02:29:12,580 --> 02:29:17,080
of all the neighbors. I have no idea how to graph my mind around what that actually means.

1466
02:29:19,780 --> 02:29:25,320
Well, I just in this room, I've heard, you know, though, you know, that they didn't hear about it

1467
02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:32,260
in time, whatever, whatever the reasons are. And the time has passed for them to have a serious

1468
02:29:32,260 --> 02:29:39,080
input. And now we're at the time of approval or just, and we can't disapprove it. We're told where

1469
02:29:39,080 --> 02:29:44,300
can't disapprove it, unless there's a significant unmitigated impact, is that right?

1470
02:29:44,840 --> 02:29:50,200
A significant, unmitigatable impact to health or safety, right?

1471
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:53,080
So, we have to approve it.

1472
02:29:54,020 --> 02:29:59,980
Unless we say we find that there's unmitigated significant impact too.

1473
02:30:01,340 --> 02:30:20,860
It's a little more than you have to find it. We actually have to have evidence in the record of that unmitigatable impact to health and safety to do any kind of denial. In terms of addressing concerns of the residents in September.

1474
02:30:23,180 --> 02:30:33,480
you know the inclusionary housing ordinance was passed in 2009. Since that time we have not had one

1475
02:30:33,480 --> 02:30:40,760
project not one that was more than seven units in the city of Fort Bragg. So it has never been used

1476
02:30:40,760 --> 02:30:47,680
until now. The inclusionary housing ordinance had the unintended consequence of resulting in

1477
02:30:47,680 --> 02:30:53,580
big density bonus requirement that the city is obligated to embrace.

1478
02:30:56,560 --> 02:31:01,020
You know the applicant came to the city with a 56 unit project that he was quite happy with.

1479
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:07,100
And then the inclusionary housing ordinance made him go through a process where he had to redesign

1480
02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:08,240
his project.

1481
02:31:10,400 --> 02:31:17,280
So you kind of can't go back in time unless you want to go to all my

1482
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:22,000
back to 2009, get rid of the inclusionary housing ordinance, but that would be all different story.

1483
02:31:25,220 --> 02:31:31,620
My own feeling about this is there was a hearing notice for that, which is a normal,

1484
02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:37,120
that is what's required by the code. We're not required to notify the neighbors for that three

1485
02:31:38,820 --> 02:31:40,940
application hearing around incentives.

1486
02:31:45,470 --> 02:31:48,030
You know, at the end of the day, three of you need to decide

1487
02:31:48,030 --> 02:31:51,710
one way or maybe two, only two. I don't know.

1488
02:31:54,400 --> 02:31:57,140
If there are specific concerns that you heard

1489
02:31:57,140 --> 02:32:02,880
that you feel are not addressed by the special conditions, I think a better mechanism to address

1490
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:08,160
those would be to voice those now and help and give me some time to craft some special

1491
02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:17,860
conditions to address those specific concerns. Well, that would be ideal. I don't want to go back

1492
02:32:17,860 --> 02:32:27,440
the drawing board. I think the the setback idea of the the tilted roof that goes over to

1493
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:33,020
through story is actually I hate to say this, but I'm okay with that because I've seen that before

1494
02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:39,680
and actually it won't be any higher than the grocery outlet, not the grocery outlet, the

1495
02:32:39,680 --> 02:32:47,160
let's not as you said. So we're already okay with that. And they're far enough apart,

1496
02:32:47,220 --> 02:32:52,360
the buildings are far enough apart. So it isn't like a huge density. But there's issues

1497
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:57,720
about which side the parking lot should be on. And there's reasons for that, I guess.

1498
02:32:58,180 --> 02:33:04,160
But it just would be great to be able to do one more work shop to see if there

1499
02:33:04,160 --> 02:33:12,100
any adjustments that we can make that would satisfy the neighbors. I don't think we're going

1500
02:33:12,100 --> 02:33:17,120
to make everybody happy, but maybe there is something we could do. I'm just asking.

1501
02:33:20,160 --> 02:33:24,120
I don't feel qualified to answer the question of what would satisfy the neighbors.

1502
02:33:26,570 --> 02:33:36,570
I understood. That's one of the questions we had from the commenter at the podium was

1503
02:33:36,570 --> 02:33:41,650
what's going to happen to Harbor Avenue? And I want to make sure I understand a special condition

1504
02:33:41,650 --> 02:33:48,350
of 22 talks about Harbor Avenue should be improved as follows. Prior to the final of the building

1505
02:33:48,350 --> 02:33:53,890
permit, Harbor Avenue should be improved along the length of the parcel frontage, including a 50

1506
02:33:53,890 --> 02:34:00,550
foot fully paved the right away and a parking lane. Upon a proven to this section, prior to the final

1507
02:34:00,550 --> 02:34:05,050
of the building permit, the paved portion of the street should be dedicated to the city.

1508
02:34:05,890 --> 02:34:12,430
installation of sidewalk, curb, corner stamps, gutter, and conformed paving along the

1509
02:34:13,410 --> 02:34:18,770
frontage project, along the project, frontage on the west side of frontage road.

1510
02:34:18,930 --> 02:34:24,950
So that's the one closer to highway one, west side of that one, sidewalks, and the

1511
02:34:24,950 --> 02:34:29,130
east side of harbor, or the, yes, the east side of harbor drive.

1512
02:34:29,130 --> 02:34:39,370
So that leaves the west side of Harbor Avenue, I'm sorry, a lot of harbors around here, streets anyway, named after them.

1513
02:34:39,970 --> 02:34:43,790
That leaves that unpaid at this time as part of one of these conditions.

1514
02:34:44,330 --> 02:34:47,850
You had a question about that, what's it going to look like? That's what's being proposed.

1515
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:51,930
Now you know what it's going to look like if we approve this.

1516
02:34:52,070 --> 02:34:56,490
I think I was correct in assessing that and reading the condition.

1517
02:34:58,570 --> 02:35:06,030
We can't go back, I know that, this is one of the more difficult decisions, this is

1518
02:35:06,030 --> 02:35:09,050
where it's such a high-paid position sitting here.

1519
02:35:11,630 --> 02:35:17,070
First of all, I think we need housing, there's no question about it, maybe it was ambitious

1520
02:35:18,230 --> 02:35:26,990
to try and create 200 units of housing as a goal, the City Council back in 2018, and I think

1521
02:35:26,990 --> 02:35:32,850
If we okay this project, we're going to be really close to hitting that target.

1522
02:35:33,790 --> 02:35:38,690
The problem if we deny this project is what's it going to say to other developers who

1523
02:35:38,690 --> 02:35:41,490
come to Fort Bragg and want to create housing projects?

1524
02:35:42,310 --> 02:35:46,810
We got one real estate person out there that's seen a few projects get denied including the

1525
02:35:46,810 --> 02:35:49,370
autos on the same location.

1526
02:35:51,230 --> 02:36:00,630
That had to do with a whole bunch of other issues, including, you know, franchise agreements and all that with a not agreements on, um,

1527
02:36:00,750 --> 02:36:02,530
as this big box franchise stores.

1528
02:36:04,270 --> 02:36:07,010
But in this case, it's housing that we're talking about.

1529
02:36:07,550 --> 02:36:15,490
I know that the gateway to Fort Bragg, I was also on the council when we okay, the the Chillino apartments on John Timilino Drive.

1530
02:36:15,490 --> 02:36:16,850
I don't know that that's what they're called.

1531
02:36:17,390 --> 02:36:20,010
We heard the same argument then that that is going to be

1532
02:36:20,010 --> 02:36:22,030
the gateway to town coming from the north.

1533
02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:23,830
And that's not a good look.

1534
02:36:24,190 --> 02:36:27,270
And really, I don't know if you really can see them that well.

1535
02:36:28,150 --> 02:36:30,250
But, you know, they seem to blend in, OK,

1536
02:36:30,370 --> 02:36:33,190
I don't think coming from the north for Prague looks OK,

1537
02:36:33,230 --> 02:36:33,730
as you come in.

1538
02:36:33,910 --> 02:36:36,570
I know there's Denny's there, but.

1539
02:36:38,370 --> 02:36:41,390
So I don't think it's a problem with a gateway from the south.

1540
02:36:41,410 --> 02:36:42,370
I really don't.

1541
02:36:43,090 --> 02:36:55,850
I also noted I don't like the height of the building. I mentioned that. I'm still not happy with it, but I understand the constraints that the developer was put under and you have to understand the constraints that we are under with the new state law.

1542
02:36:57,510 --> 02:37:11,230
But I also noted when I was there on Sunday that there are trees and I check with the applicant during the break there are some trees on the north west corner near the outlet store.

1543
02:37:11,230 --> 02:37:18,190
storehouse area. They're pretty tall. And in fact, are taller than 32 feet. I'm sure. And

1544
02:37:18,190 --> 02:37:22,590
we'll remain on the property. They're not going to cut them down. So there will be a visual,

1545
02:37:22,610 --> 02:37:26,590
a nature visual that's higher than the proposed buildings.

1546
02:37:28,730 --> 02:37:32,590
I'm not sure. I think the parking

1547
02:37:32,590 --> 02:37:39,250
is okay where it is. I get why it needs to be there. And I think it would be better served for

1548
02:37:39,250 --> 02:37:43,970
everybody circulation wise and the people that live there already before this project

1549
02:37:43,970 --> 02:37:51,290
if in fact it is okay okay I think the traffic seems to be okay and I know there's

1550
02:37:51,290 --> 02:37:57,950
going to be more cars and we heard our consultant Marie Jones tell us that the level

1551
02:37:57,950 --> 02:38:03,570
of service and traffic studies aren't that important anymore. They weren't at one time but

1552
02:38:03,570 --> 02:38:07,690
they don't seem to be that important because the big push here in the state of California is

1553
02:38:07,690 --> 02:38:13,810
housing, housing, housing housing. And we've got a piece of property with a developer that has

1554
02:38:13,810 --> 02:38:19,430
put forth a plan, has hired all the necessary experts, engineers, architects to put this thing

1555
02:38:19,430 --> 02:38:24,170
together, put a lot of money and do it already, and it's going to provide some housing for the city

1556
02:38:24,170 --> 02:38:30,270
for a brag. And one final note is that the College of the Red Wishes brought up right at the end.

1557
02:38:30,910 --> 02:38:35,970
And I was thinking of it, I had it written down in my notes. One of the things we'd like to see

1558
02:38:35,970 --> 02:38:42,250
is the college build, a bigger college, a better college, more courses, a nursing program,

1559
02:38:42,290 --> 02:38:47,190
a marine environment program, all sorts of great programs. Where are these students going to live?

1560
02:38:48,670 --> 02:38:54,690
This is an opportunity for some housing or the students right here, very close to the college.

1561
02:38:55,630 --> 02:39:01,330
So for a number of reasons that it's kind of going like this for me, the one advantage I feel

1562
02:39:01,330 --> 02:39:22,190
If we okay this project and remember it's going to take three votes to do so, is that the people that live in the area that are against or oppose this project can take their case to the Coastal Commission, who will then have the final say, and this being in the Coastal zone, I really think that it's probably the best way for this decision to go tonight.

1563
02:39:22,190 --> 02:39:25,150
If we say no, that's the end of it.

1564
02:39:25,310 --> 02:39:29,070
If two of us say no, and it's a two-two vote, that's the end of this project.

1565
02:39:29,510 --> 02:39:31,550
You need to have to come back with a new project.

1566
02:39:34,470 --> 02:39:39,290
Or, you know, like I said, what sort of message does this bring to others?

1567
02:39:41,310 --> 02:39:43,490
So I'm conflicted to be honest.

1568
02:39:43,650 --> 02:39:45,330
But right now, I'm leading to support it.

1569
02:39:45,610 --> 02:39:49,430
Only because there is a venue for those opposed to take it further,

1570
02:39:49,430 --> 02:39:53,950
paying the cost of commission. So with this point, all the reasons I stated, I think I

1571
02:39:53,950 --> 02:39:56,130
support it. It's a tough one. No, it's very difficult.

1572
02:39:57,970 --> 02:40:01,250
Vice Mayor, you like that way, and.

1573
02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:12,180
Solar, did I see solar? Yeah, the state of California is building code now requires solar

1574
02:40:12,180 --> 02:40:20,020
for multi-family projects. So that will be they'll be on the building rooftops as part of the building

1575
02:40:20,020 --> 02:40:26,900
performance date. Okay, I'm gonna sit there. Okay, feel

1576
02:40:29,110 --> 02:40:37,770
free to discuss. Okay, I heard from the neighbors in the audience also, change.

1577
02:40:39,430 --> 02:40:49,390
People in the small town do not like change, but we can't keep on going with no change.

1578
02:40:49,390 --> 02:40:57,270
because they say it's not why it moved care. It's not why it moved care. But as locals we we want to keep our families

1579
02:40:57,270 --> 02:41:05,990
every want to keep our kids here. And we want to see for Brad Grod some extent, but not San Francisco or

1580
02:41:07,110 --> 02:41:13,910
not LA. We we need growth to maintain our families here, not to retire here.

1581
02:41:16,490 --> 02:41:18,190
And this is

1582
02:41:18,190 --> 02:41:22,130
Three stories, this is a big change before Bragg.

1583
02:41:23,450 --> 02:41:26,970
This is opening doors for others, other developers.

1584
02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:29,210
Just like Rochialet.

1585
02:41:31,790 --> 02:41:35,230
Or for my kids, well, my kids are old enough.

1586
02:41:37,270 --> 02:41:41,090
Maybe my great niece and nephews, they can go to school here

1587
02:41:41,090 --> 02:41:43,390
and make a career here would change.

1588
02:41:44,650 --> 02:41:45,330
Not just retire.

1589
02:41:47,630 --> 02:41:54,870
I remember when I was younger in my early 20s, we have the best view, well my family did

1590
02:41:54,870 --> 02:42:01,610
has the best view and I would look across the bay, I'd see two or three lights over on

1591
02:42:01,610 --> 02:42:02,310
Todd's point.

1592
02:42:03,230 --> 02:42:14,510
One day I look up, it's all lit up with houses and now everyone says, oh, we like open space,

1593
02:42:14,510 --> 02:42:24,460
ocean view until they want that ocean view for themselves. And that's not,

1594
02:42:26,470 --> 02:42:27,930
that's not right.

1595
02:42:28,430 --> 02:42:32,390
And so we all need to work together. Some people are going to be happy.

1596
02:42:34,730 --> 02:42:39,350
Can't make everybody happy here. We're all have different views and everything.

1597
02:42:39,350 --> 02:43:00,770
And I get it changes hard, but being on the council and looking at the future for my kids and my great nephews and stuff, but hopefully we can see them one day staying here instead of moving away and then coming back in the car, they can stay.

1598
02:43:01,890 --> 02:43:10,150
So, I am for the project for housing and it's not any taller than the outlet building

1599
02:43:10,150 --> 02:43:12,390
that's already there.

1600
02:43:14,350 --> 02:43:23,590
And the planning commission, a great group of people on there that go with the code, the building

1601
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:33,530
design, the look, the study, the landscaping, everything they read it to the G and they go

1602
02:43:33,530 --> 02:43:44,090
by our coats and everything. And so that the aesthetic and everything that should lend

1603
02:43:44,090 --> 02:43:53,230
into our town, this new development. So I am for the development as we need housing and

1604
02:43:53,230 --> 02:43:55,930
like Council Member Linny Peter said,

1605
02:43:56,870 --> 02:44:01,570
if the neighbors can take it to the,

1606
02:44:01,570 --> 02:44:05,430
also commission, because we are too far ahead

1607
02:44:05,430 --> 02:44:09,070
to turn back now, so I'm for the project.

1608
02:44:10,570 --> 02:44:12,030
All right, thanks so much.

1609
02:44:13,490 --> 02:44:15,530
I certainly sympathize with a lot of the concerns

1610
02:44:15,530 --> 02:44:18,750
that were voiced today, mostly by folks

1611
02:44:18,750 --> 02:44:27,710
in the vicinity. Honestly, for me, it's pretty uncomplicated in the sense that while we do need

1612
02:44:27,710 --> 02:44:33,450
to keep those concerns in mind, our job is to think of the needs of our entire community and

1613
02:44:33,450 --> 02:44:40,370
those are very strongly in favor of building housing. And I think this is a rare opportunity. I think

1614
02:44:40,370 --> 02:44:48,150
Marie, you addressed how rare it actually is to have something like this. And if our goal over

1615
02:44:48,150 --> 02:44:53,110
seven year period is 200 units, this is formidable and having a real impact.

1616
02:44:53,130 --> 02:44:56,750
A substantive impact on the housing needs of our community.

1617
02:44:58,010 --> 02:44:59,970
It's a kind of housing that is both...

1618
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,440
More environmentally friendly, and in terms of its scale, in terms of the market is going to be more

1619
02:45:07,440 --> 02:45:12,280
tend to be more affordable. So it's not just the affordable units, it's also the nature of the housing,

1620
02:45:12,640 --> 02:45:18,860
it's going to be more for our working families and those are folks we need to keep in mind.

1621
02:45:20,240 --> 02:45:27,180
So having heard all the concerns with whether it be traffic or or a stormwater, I thank you,

1622
02:45:27,180 --> 02:45:30,140
as Jones were, I feel like you've been very responsive

1623
02:45:30,140 --> 02:45:31,660
to a lot of those things.

1624
02:45:32,060 --> 02:45:33,820
It's not like, as you said, you can't address

1625
02:45:33,820 --> 02:45:35,500
everybody's concerns perfectly.

1626
02:45:36,340 --> 02:45:39,060
And certainly not everyone would be happy with this project,

1627
02:45:39,360 --> 02:45:42,180
but I think that it is an unusual opportunity

1628
02:45:42,180 --> 02:45:44,080
for the community in general.

1629
02:45:44,320 --> 02:45:45,780
And so I've very much favorite.

1630
02:45:53,790 --> 02:45:56,790
Okay, well, brings us to.

1631
02:45:56,790 --> 02:45:58,550
Yeah, what did you want to say?

1632
02:45:58,650 --> 02:46:00,230
Sounds like not relevant to anything to add to this.

1633
02:46:00,230 --> 02:46:01,250
You didn't have to speak.

1634
02:46:05,570 --> 02:46:12,190
We're able to add things, you know, conditions, so one of them I would like to see the sidewalks.

1635
02:46:12,390 --> 02:46:14,630
I'm just one, everybody else has to agree.

1636
02:46:15,570 --> 02:46:18,430
So I'm not trying to say everybody should do what I ask.

1637
02:46:18,570 --> 02:46:20,290
Can you be more descriptive about sidewalks?

1638
02:46:20,770 --> 02:46:25,950
The project would already include sidewalks on both the east and west side of the parcel.

1639
02:46:25,950 --> 02:46:32,830
Take what curb and gutter to what sidewalks are you looking for beyond that?

1640
02:46:33,290 --> 02:46:36,370
All the way to ocean view?

1641
02:46:37,490 --> 02:46:43,670
There are already our sidewalks on the part that's to ocean view that is already developed.

1642
02:46:44,530 --> 02:46:47,710
So sidewalks have already been developed as part of the dolphin in,

1643
02:46:48,430 --> 02:46:52,990
so it would continue those sidewalks to the northern first-of-boundary of the project site.

1644
02:46:55,030 --> 02:46:59,610
Well I can't speak for the neighbors. I don't know if they want sidewalks all the way up

1645
02:46:59,610 --> 02:47:06,190
or they want to keep the rural nature. Personally, I would like to see sidewalks because

1646
02:47:06,190 --> 02:47:13,350
it's a lot easier to work on over there. But I can't, I don't know what the neighbors want.

1647
02:47:13,810 --> 02:47:15,270
So I'm not going to go there.

1648
02:47:17,490 --> 02:47:21,570
And I would like to be sensitive to speeding along the highway

1649
02:47:21,570 --> 02:47:27,890
because we have now a huge amount of people on the street so then our city can add speed bumps

1650
02:47:27,890 --> 02:47:33,750
or whatever as necessary but that is something the developer needs to worry about.

1651
02:47:34,910 --> 02:47:40,130
So we can't add speed bumps on Highway 1. That is CalTrans's purview.

1652
02:47:41,250 --> 02:47:49,970
On the actual Harbor Drive. You could ask the first speed bump to be put on Harbor Avenue

1653
02:47:49,970 --> 02:47:53,370
because the applicant is going to do those improvements.

1654
02:47:56,180 --> 02:47:58,120
Well, I wanted to wait to see if it's a problem.

1655
02:47:58,820 --> 02:48:02,040
So, is that that would be something we would do, wouldn't that later?

1656
02:48:03,100 --> 02:48:08,080
You could do it after the fact later, or you could actually add a special condition now

1657
02:48:08,080 --> 02:48:13,000
to this project that requires a speed bump to be installed now if you want.

1658
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:19,280
Okay. I would like to add a special condition subject to approval of the rest of the council

1659
02:48:19,280 --> 02:48:31,020
That developer will install speed bumps if we determine that speeding is an issue on that's harbor avenue.

1660
02:48:33,560 --> 02:48:33,800
I don't know.

1661
02:48:34,100 --> 02:48:38,860
I thought most of their concerns were the speeding was going out to that's point.

1662
02:48:39,180 --> 02:48:42,580
Make it a right and we'd be lined at the end out there to put on a plan.

1663
02:48:42,740 --> 02:48:45,440
Not necessarily where are these departments are going to be.

1664
02:48:45,540 --> 02:48:49,620
I'm thinking in the future when this development goes in.

1665
02:48:49,620 --> 02:48:54,600
But I, you're right, but I don't see. I, I, I don't have a condition.

1666
02:48:55,860 --> 02:48:58,960
You don't, okay, this is if it's becomes problem.

1667
02:48:59,300 --> 02:49:01,700
Well, the dresser, if it does, I don't think it needs a condition.

1668
02:49:02,520 --> 02:49:04,100
But you can, you can look for others.

1669
02:49:04,220 --> 02:49:06,260
This is a life that we need to pay for it.

1670
02:49:06,340 --> 02:49:08,560
I know, but I just don't think that's going to be an issue.

1671
02:49:08,900 --> 02:49:13,100
It's pretty short drive from the apartment egress to the street there.

1672
02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:15,280
You're not going to have a lot of time to build up speed.

1673
02:49:15,280 --> 02:49:21,100
That other road I get at the totally, but anyway, that's just, we're just, you know, this is discussion here.

1674
02:49:21,200 --> 02:49:24,300
Delineration at the council level. I'm not trying to get this one person.

1675
02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:34,540
And otherwise, we have to make the best of it. I don't see us having any decision making really in this,

1676
02:49:34,540 --> 02:49:41,120
unless we're able to prove that there is a substantial unmitigated impact to health or safety.

1677
02:49:41,120 --> 02:49:48,340
So, I have nothing for that, so I'll have to look for good as well.

1678
02:49:49,340 --> 02:49:56,120
So, before you guys make a motion, I'd like you to consider whether or not you want to

1679
02:49:57,000 --> 02:50:02,880
move the one incentive for the storm drain improvement on ocean drive to a special condition

1680
02:50:02,880 --> 02:50:08,460
and give the applicant an incentive to reduce their balconies or not.

1681
02:50:09,420 --> 02:50:10,080
Affirmative.

1682
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:20,080
affirmative, affirmative. Okay, so I have got all positive, affirmative on that. And then if you don't mind, I'd like to share my screen.

1683
02:50:22,420 --> 02:50:32,370
So that you can look through the issue about Harbor Avenue, because there was a little bit of confusion about Harbor Avenue.

1684
02:50:32,370 --> 02:50:38,730
So, at the Planning Commission hearing, some of the neighbors expressed concern about

1685
02:50:38,730 --> 02:50:44,950
there being parking, a parking lane on the west side of Harvard Avenue, in other words,

1686
02:50:45,170 --> 02:50:49,610
adjacent to their parcels, and they were concerned about that because they were concerned

1687
02:50:49,610 --> 02:50:52,310
about a lot of cars parking in front of their phones.

1688
02:50:53,050 --> 02:50:55,330
And they wanted signs that say no parking.

1689
02:50:56,630 --> 02:50:59,430
Well, the city doesn't really do that.

1690
02:50:59,430 --> 02:51:03,470
we don't like tell people they can't park on public streets.

1691
02:51:04,270 --> 02:51:07,510
You can pave something for safety,

1692
02:51:08,090 --> 02:51:11,030
or you can put a blue thing out if you're ADA,

1693
02:51:11,230 --> 02:51:14,070
but we don't generally say people you can't park somewhere.

1694
02:51:14,810 --> 02:51:17,490
So at that hearing, Shantel recommended

1695
02:51:18,870 --> 02:51:22,330
that instead this second bit be added,

1696
02:51:23,690 --> 02:51:26,310
that the parking lane on the west side of Farber Drive

1697
02:51:26,310 --> 02:51:28,430
shall either be unimproved or developed

1698
02:51:28,430 --> 02:51:34,970
with a stormwater swell for the specifications of the Department of Public Works to encourage infiltration

1699
02:51:34,970 --> 02:51:39,530
of stormwater and discourage public parking on the west side of the road. So that's what

1700
02:51:39,530 --> 02:51:44,690
got added in because that was added the dimensions for the right of way improvements there

1701
02:51:44,690 --> 02:51:53,110
went from 50 feet to 37 feet. So that's that little piece and then the other piece that changes in

1702
02:51:53,110 --> 02:52:03,490
resolution is by the eliminated this requirement, the 150 square foot balconies. I fixed the

1703
02:52:03,490 --> 02:52:12,070
R-Carber app thing that Jacob pointed out. This now includes the other incentives, so the minimum

1704
02:52:12,070 --> 02:52:23,190
balcony size, and then the last thing that it includes is that moving the improvements of ocean

1705
02:52:23,190 --> 02:52:28,590
drive that storm drain to a special condition. So I just want to make sure you're fully aware

1706
02:52:28,590 --> 02:52:34,050
of what you're running for. Those are all running. So they're all running and I'm showing them to

1707
02:52:34,050 --> 02:52:36,850
you live on live TV.

1708
02:52:46,810 --> 02:52:50,990
And with that if someone wants to make the motion, unless anybody wants to add

1709
02:52:50,990 --> 02:53:00,070
another special condition, just make it as amended at the city council hearing. But if you make the motion,

1710
02:53:00,070 --> 02:53:08,070
You don't have to say as amended or do you with to include the red ink or is the red ink now part of the motion that you're making head.

1711
02:53:08,650 --> 02:53:09,970
I think you just say as amended.

1712
02:53:10,090 --> 02:53:11,950
As amended. Okay, that's what I.

1713
02:53:11,950 --> 02:53:13,030
I think that's good.

1714
02:53:13,470 --> 02:53:13,630
Right.

1715
02:53:13,970 --> 02:53:16,210
Is there any more discussion on this?

1716
02:53:18,540 --> 02:53:18,760
Okay.

1717
02:53:19,100 --> 02:53:21,040
I'll go ahead then and make a motion.

1718
02:53:22,540 --> 02:53:26,560
Then we adopt the resolution of the four-pray City Council approving the Coastal Development

1719
02:53:26,560 --> 02:53:41,080
permit 8-24 CDPH-24, design review 11-24, use permit 9-24, and sign permit 20-24, project

1720
02:53:41,080 --> 02:53:49,780
and associated infrastructure at 1151 South Main Street for an 87 unit project, subject

1721
02:53:49,780 --> 02:53:55,980
to the findings and all standard and special conditions here, including the amended conditions

1722
02:53:55,980 --> 02:54:04,150
in redic. Second. I don't think we have a first by council member Peter's second by the

1723
02:54:04,150 --> 02:54:10,140
vice mayor. Peter's? Yes. I'll then Smith. Yes.

1724
02:54:10,800 --> 02:54:17,520
Good. Good. Good. Yes. I want to thank our planning commission too. They had a really

1725
02:54:17,520 --> 02:54:23,060
longer hearing than this with more information and testimony and where we thank you so much for

1726
02:54:23,060 --> 02:54:29,280
all your work on this and making it fairly clear to us what lab before us here tonight. Not an easy

1727
02:54:29,280 --> 02:54:34,660
decision at least for me. Thank you. Yeah, I'd like to reiterate my thanks to the planning

1728
02:54:34,660 --> 02:54:38,500
commission. They were really diligent in their work on this.

1729
02:54:41,820 --> 02:54:42,280
Okay,

1730
02:54:47,450 --> 02:54:49,670
we wait a second for our

1731
02:54:49,670 --> 02:54:50,770
fifth or

1732
02:54:58,870 --> 02:55:02,150
just waiting a moment for our recused member to return.

1733
02:55:05,820 --> 02:55:07,860
So the bucket to call. There we comes.

1734
02:55:12,520 --> 02:55:14,000
All right. With the return of council member,

1735
02:55:17,960 --> 02:55:20,260
We'll move to item 7B.

1736
02:55:25,110 --> 02:55:26,390
All right, colleagues, we're ready.

1737
02:55:27,490 --> 02:55:28,970
Receiver report, hold a public hearing.

1738
02:55:29,370 --> 02:55:34,790
Receive planning commissions recommendation and introduced by title only and wave the first reading of ordinances.

1739
02:55:35,630 --> 02:55:38,150
Number one, ordinance 109-2025,

1740
02:55:38,970 --> 02:55:42,910
remaining the coastal land use and development coach after 17.36,

1741
02:55:43,790 --> 02:55:50,810
parking and loading to one match the changes that have already been approved for the inland land use and development code.

1742
02:55:50,810 --> 02:55:57,670
by City Council and to address inconsistencies in landscaping requirements for parking lots.

1743
02:55:57,950 --> 02:56:05,970
And also to ordinance 182825, amending the inland land use code, the inland land use

1744
02:56:05,970 --> 02:56:12,490
and development code, chapter 1836, parking and loading to address inconsistencies and landscaping

1745
02:56:12,490 --> 02:56:21,910
requirements for parking lots, sequence option 15, 0, 6, 1, B, and 3. Miss Jones, are you back for this one?

1746
02:56:23,150 --> 02:56:28,770
I am sorry. Very in fact. Yeah, again, along with all those consent calendar items,

1747
02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:36,070
it was a busy time for me. So this is something that's coming back to you as part of your strategic plan

1748
02:56:36,070 --> 02:56:41,090
for 200 plus new housing units and your pro housing

1749
02:56:41,090 --> 02:56:42,550
birds.

1750
02:56:44,710 --> 02:56:51,350
You initially directed myself and city staff to pull together an ordinance to eliminate

1751
02:56:51,350 --> 02:56:57,090
minimum parking requirements. We took that forward to the planning commission on January 31st

1752
02:56:57,090 --> 02:57:02,530
and they actually directed staff to continue hearing and return with a revised ordinance

1753
02:57:02,530 --> 02:57:05,530
that did not eliminate parking requirements.

1754
02:57:05,890 --> 02:57:07,850
There was a typo in the staff report.

1755
02:57:08,650 --> 02:57:10,490
So their recommendation was definitely not

1756
02:57:10,490 --> 02:57:12,430
to eliminate minimum parking requirements.

1757
02:57:12,710 --> 02:57:16,530
And at the subsequent meeting, thanks to Jacob Patterson,

1758
02:57:17,470 --> 02:57:18,370
who's so diligent.

1759
02:57:19,510 --> 02:57:23,190
We did determine that the maximum two pro housing points

1760
02:57:23,190 --> 02:57:26,170
could also be earned if the city just revised.

1761
02:57:26,370 --> 02:57:27,210
It's a parking requirement

1762
02:57:27,210 --> 02:57:30,330
so that they meet the minimum requirements of state density.

1763
02:57:30,330 --> 02:57:37,770
bonus file which you were now very familiar with. And then I also went back and looked at the

1764
02:57:37,770 --> 02:57:46,150
pro housing regulations and identified a couple of other choice, pro housing points that the

1765
02:57:46,150 --> 02:57:53,850
city could qualify for without any new effort. And that is 2D to establish a for many projects

1766
02:57:53,850 --> 02:57:59,070
that takes less than four months to complete, which is now possible with the four leaf building

1767
02:57:59,070 --> 02:58:11,110
permit review process. And the same is true of establishing the one stop permit processing. A single point of contact because people would no longer need to go to the county for their building permits.

1768
02:58:12,150 --> 02:58:16,390
And then another easy point to get would be a document in the practice.

1769
02:58:16,390 --> 02:58:23,650
a publicly posting status updates on Project Hermit of Proofles on the Internet, which is actually now required by state law anyway.

1770
02:58:25,190 --> 02:58:26,930
So that's a freebie.

1771
02:58:27,870 --> 02:58:37,530
So with those additional points and the parking standards, it's possible for the city to basically achieve all very required points.

1772
02:58:38,830 --> 02:58:52,050
The Planning Commission also says that it's expressed great reservations about the city establishing a ministerial approval process for multi-family and mixed east housing, which I'll speak a little bit to later.

1773
02:58:52,810 --> 02:58:57,550
And part of the reason I'm bringing that forward at this time as well to get direction is there are

1774
02:58:57,550 --> 02:59:02,930
secret issues associated with changing multi-family from a use permit to a ministerial process

1775
02:59:02,930 --> 02:59:10,370
that would actually make that zoning amendment a fairly significant secret exercise for me

1776
02:59:10,370 --> 02:59:14,450
and I don't want to undertake it unless you're quite certain that's where you want to go.

1777
02:59:15,730 --> 02:59:21,870
So on page three of the staff report, there's a little table that compares density bonus

1778
02:59:21,870 --> 02:59:25,210
while parking requirements with the current IL-UDC parking

1779
02:59:25,210 --> 02:59:26,730
requirements for multi-family.

1780
02:59:27,370 --> 02:59:30,430
And you will note from that table that studios and one bedrooms

1781
02:59:30,430 --> 02:59:32,130
for both sets of requirements.

1782
02:59:32,410 --> 02:59:33,730
There's one space per unit.

1783
02:59:34,590 --> 02:59:38,290
For two to three bedrooms, the density bonus law requires

1784
02:59:38,290 --> 02:59:42,830
1.5 spaces per unit, whereas our ordinance requires two spaces

1785
02:59:42,830 --> 02:59:45,290
per unit, so there's a difference of a 0.5 space.

1786
02:59:45,850 --> 02:59:47,490
But then if you go four plus bedrooms,

1787
02:59:47,750 --> 02:59:49,970
density bonus law requires two and a half spaces

1788
02:59:49,970 --> 02:59:57,370
and the city requires just two spaces. So, as I noted already, any project of over seven units

1789
02:59:57,370 --> 02:59:59,830
because you do have an inclusionary housing and ordinance.

1790
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:24,760
In the city of Fort Bragg, would require compliance with density bonus loss. So this change in partner requirements would really only impact those projects that are between three and seven units or three and six units. So I did a little hypothetical seven unit project on page four of my staff report that showed density bonus law basically requiring nine spaces and our current ordinance requiring ten spaces.

1791
03:00:24,760 --> 03:00:30,320
And that would be a project that had a hypothetical two studios, three two bedrooms, and one four bedroom.

1792
03:00:30,940 --> 03:00:35,120
So not an appreciable difference, especially at that small scale of development.

1793
03:00:37,160 --> 03:00:42,840
So I recommend, and the planning commission recommends that you dropped the attached ordinances,

1794
03:00:43,020 --> 03:00:48,940
that include density bonus file parking minimums rather than eliminate parking minimums in their entirety.

1795
03:00:48,940 --> 03:01:00,320
And I think this is important for a couple of reasons, certainly this project that we just reviewed showed the extreme community concern around parking and that does still exist.

1796
03:01:00,320 --> 03:01:05,940
For a break does, as well as incredibly walkable, it really does lack robust transit system.

1797
03:01:07,020 --> 03:01:13,520
And at the end of the day, you'd still get your full two row housing bonus points going this route.

1798
03:01:14,720 --> 03:01:25,960
So then the other question before you tonight is whether or not you should continue to pursue this idea of eliminating the use permit requirement for multi-family housing projects.

1799
03:01:26,860 --> 03:01:32,540
And on page 4, I mentioned four good reasons to keep the use permit process.

1800
03:01:32,680 --> 03:01:37,460
One is it allows neighbors to express their concerns in a public setting and possibly

1801
03:01:37,460 --> 03:01:40,080
have them address through a special condition process.

1802
03:01:41,260 --> 03:01:46,000
Second, it requires any staff to refer projects to appropriate agencies to get comments,

1803
03:01:46,460 --> 03:01:50,020
which can often identify issues that should be resolved to the special conditions.

1804
03:01:50,880 --> 03:01:55,480
Third, it supports staff time to review very complex projects.

1805
03:01:55,480 --> 03:02:04,240
This project was probably the most complex project for one of the top five that I've ever reviewed in the city of Fort Bragg.

1806
03:02:05,020 --> 03:02:09,720
And it took a fair amount of time and taking it out of the use permit process.

1807
03:02:09,780 --> 03:02:16,140
Basically there would be no developer deposit account to fund staff time to do that review.

1808
03:02:16,580 --> 03:02:24,680
And I do have to say that the process of writing it down and thinking it through is very different from looking at a set of plans.

1809
03:02:25,480 --> 03:02:53,810
It's a much more thorough process and I really think you kind of do want that for larger multi family projects and finally the public hearing allows the applicant the opportunity to urge the planning commissioner of the city council to change a special condition that they might find particularly oner is so for all those reasons, I think you might consider retaining that use permit process and with that the planning commission has a set of recommendations on page five in order to meet the 30

1810
03:02:53,810 --> 03:02:59,590
for housing points, do the one stop shop permitting, which are already doing the four months to complete

1811
03:02:59,590 --> 03:03:05,530
entitlement, which are already doing the posting, the status update thing, the two points from

1812
03:03:05,530 --> 03:03:10,290
parking and then replacing the subjective development to the science standards with the objective

1813
03:03:10,290 --> 03:03:13,970
development and the science standards, which is already far by state law anyway.

1814
03:03:15,410 --> 03:03:18,950
And with that, I am tired and stop talking and listening to the questions.

1815
03:03:24,700 --> 03:03:34,560
So we could, we could, in effect, do away with the permit process and the hearing, the public hearing and all that in the permit process, did I?

1816
03:03:35,260 --> 03:03:43,100
You could and previously you had directed myself and staff to come up with an ordinance to do that.

1817
03:03:43,480 --> 03:03:49,520
The actual ordinance change is very simple. It's just in the land use table. You change it from use permit to permit it.

1818
03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:53,180
But in order to make that change, I would actually need to look at the

1819
03:03:53,180 --> 03:03:57,620
Sequo implications of developing multi-family projects on all the vacant

1820
03:03:57,620 --> 03:04:02,300
parcels in Fort Bragg. So it's a non-trivial, trivial,

1821
03:04:02,460 --> 03:04:06,060
sequo-exercise in order to get you to the place where you

1822
03:04:06,060 --> 03:04:10,800
they're pre-entiled in other words for development. And I didn't want to go

1823
03:04:10,800 --> 03:04:14,340
through that work without making sure that that's really what you want,

1824
03:04:14,460 --> 03:04:17,460
especially given what you participated in tonight.

1825
03:04:17,460 --> 03:04:24,640
Well, I know it's a question time, but I wouldn't agree with that for the reasons you stated

1826
03:04:24,640 --> 03:04:27,360
you gave four good ones, but anyway, oh wait,

1827
03:04:30,900 --> 03:04:32,520
other questions, colleagues,

1828
03:04:37,020 --> 03:04:37,420
I don't think

1829
03:04:37,420 --> 03:04:42,080
I have a question right now looking forward to hearing from the public also, but I do want

1830
03:04:42,080 --> 03:04:46,640
to say that I appreciate the feedback from planning commission and also just obviously you

1831
03:04:46,640 --> 03:04:50,400
looking at this as you're working through the whole process, what the implications are.

1832
03:04:50,400 --> 03:04:54,920
It was very informative, yeah, all right.

1833
03:04:55,100 --> 03:04:56,320
There are no other questions.

1834
03:04:57,120 --> 03:05:01,280
We will open the public hearing at 906.

1835
03:05:01,440 --> 03:05:04,440
Anyone in the room like to speak on this item?

1836
03:05:04,600 --> 03:05:09,300
Item, seven B. Seeing none.

1837
03:05:09,700 --> 03:05:10,300
Anyone online?

1838
03:05:13,000 --> 03:05:14,520
Please use the raise hand feature.

1839
03:05:14,920 --> 03:05:17,760
If you would like to make a public comment on seven B

1840
03:05:20,960 --> 03:05:22,620
and there are no hands.

1841
03:05:25,760 --> 03:05:31,560
And that case I will close the public hearing 9.06.

1842
03:05:33,100 --> 03:05:34,820
Is that literally the same time?

1843
03:05:36,240 --> 03:05:37,800
That's the first for me.

1844
03:05:38,440 --> 03:05:41,560
Bring it back to council then for further discussion or questions.

1845
03:05:55,880 --> 03:05:56,940
I think we'll have to make a motion.

1846
03:05:57,120 --> 03:05:59,620
We adopt the resolution of the Fort Bragg Planning Commission.

1847
03:05:59,740 --> 03:06:02,640
Recommending that the city council, A,

1848
03:06:03,280 --> 03:06:06,980
adopt an ordinance of many divisions 17 and the Fort Bragg Municipal Code.

1849
03:06:06,980 --> 03:06:11,680
If you want to read this one, Baron, you're actually reading the wrong resolution because I didn't

1850
03:06:11,680 --> 03:06:12,640
think that was right.

1851
03:06:13,120 --> 03:06:23,260
If you're reading the planning commissions resolution, you're actually wanting to adopt the

1852
03:06:23,260 --> 03:06:23,800
ordinance.

1853
03:06:24,240 --> 03:06:25,000
The ordinance.

1854
03:06:25,600 --> 03:06:29,040
So attachment to an attachment three or the two ordinances.

1855
03:06:29,660 --> 03:06:36,840
And if you want to see the City Council on the first page, I just wish the wrong

1856
03:06:37,240 --> 03:06:39,460
went to the wrong page.

1857
03:06:43,980 --> 03:06:46,320
So all I have to do is read the title of the ordinance. I don't

1858
03:06:46,320 --> 03:06:51,600
have to go through anything else, right? On the on the staff report, if you do the city council

1859
03:06:52,660 --> 03:06:58,920
action, basically, that'll make the motion. Yeah. You have two ordinances and then you need to

1860
03:06:58,920 --> 03:07:01,140
give me direction about the youth permit thing.

1861
03:07:05,950 --> 03:07:14,470
So this is an ordinance of many divisions 17 of the

1862
03:07:15,940 --> 03:07:43,920
I make a motion we adopt an ordinance, many Division 17 of the Fort Bragg municipal code, to amend chapter 17.36 parking and loading, to one, modify minimum parking requirements for multi-family housing, and to amend the parking regulation of the CLUDC to match changes already approved, for the inland, the LUDC, by the City Council, and three,

1863
03:07:43,920 --> 03:07:52,360
men's chapter 17.35 landscaping standards to address inconsistencies in landscaping requirements for parking lots.

1864
03:07:52,740 --> 03:07:53,920
My second then.

1865
03:07:55,040 --> 03:07:56,080
Right for number one.

1866
03:07:56,180 --> 03:07:59,940
We have a first by council member Peter's and a second by council member Alvin Smith.

1867
03:08:01,500 --> 03:08:02,180
Peter's.

1868
03:08:02,280 --> 03:08:04,520
It's only a 22 page ordinance by the way.

1869
03:08:05,400 --> 03:08:05,660
Yes.

1870
03:08:06,500 --> 03:08:06,640
Okay.

1871
03:08:07,300 --> 03:08:07,900
Yes.

1872
03:08:08,400 --> 03:08:08,860
Alvin Smith.

1873
03:08:09,560 --> 03:08:10,180
Raffman.

1874
03:08:10,620 --> 03:08:11,280
Go deck.

1875
03:08:11,400 --> 03:08:11,920
Yes.

1876
03:08:11,920 --> 03:08:14,420
I'm going to do 18.

1877
03:08:14,840 --> 03:08:15,220
Number two.

1878
03:08:15,580 --> 03:08:17,860
I move that.

1879
03:08:17,940 --> 03:08:19,340
The city of Fort Bragadop.

1880
03:08:19,980 --> 03:08:24,940
The ordinance amending division 18 of the Fort Bragadop.

1881
03:08:24,940 --> 03:08:26,040
Municipal Code.

1882
03:08:27,000 --> 03:08:29,780
ILU DC-1-25.

1883
03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:33,320
To amend chapter 18.36.

1884
03:08:33,880 --> 03:08:34,960
Parking and loading.

1885
03:08:35,900 --> 03:08:36,440
To one.

1886
03:08:36,580 --> 03:08:39,920
Reduce minimum parking requirements for multi-family housing.

1887
03:08:39,920 --> 03:08:52,460
And two, amend chapter 18.35, landscaping standards to address inconsistencies in landscaping

1888
03:08:52,460 --> 03:08:54,460
requirements for purview lots.

1889
03:08:56,670 --> 03:08:59,110
By title only, waving for the reading.

1890
03:09:01,250 --> 03:09:01,630
Sagan.

1891
03:09:02,250 --> 03:09:06,370
By title, so it's adopting by title only, and waving for the reading of your notes.

1892
03:09:06,830 --> 03:09:07,250
Correct.

1893
03:09:07,250 --> 03:09:18,490
my I move that we adopt by title only and waving further reading of the ordinance. So you

1894
03:09:18,490 --> 03:09:22,150
read the title, you don't have to read the rest of the 20, but I'll see what I did.

1895
03:09:25,300 --> 03:09:25,640
Okay, we have

1896
03:09:25,640 --> 03:09:30,320
a first by council member Alvin Smith, second by the vice mayor. Leaders? Yes.

1897
03:09:30,820 --> 03:09:33,560
Bucket? Yes. Alvin Smith? Yes.

1898
03:09:35,700 --> 03:09:44,560
Yes, right, and then finally we need to provide some direction and by I feel like I want to make a motion about that.

1899
03:09:51,660 --> 03:09:57,760
I don't know the we need in motion. I just like head nods or nose.

1900
03:09:58,080 --> 03:10:04,480
There we go. We could do a thumbs up if we thumbs up if you think let's keep use permits for multi family.

1901
03:10:05,260 --> 03:10:08,060
Keep, keep, thumbs up means keep use permits.

1902
03:10:08,400 --> 03:10:11,020
Keep use permits, keep use permits, keep use permits.

1903
03:10:11,240 --> 03:10:12,340
For keeping use permits.

1904
03:10:14,080 --> 03:10:14,100
Okay.

1905
03:10:14,120 --> 03:10:16,120
So I got four thumbs up.

1906
03:10:17,820 --> 03:10:18,500
That's all I need.

1907
03:10:18,660 --> 03:10:19,940
Thank you.

1908
03:10:20,060 --> 03:10:21,960
It makes my life easier, I appreciate it.

1909
03:10:24,860 --> 03:10:25,420
Yeah.

1910
03:10:25,700 --> 03:10:26,060
That's okay.

1911
03:10:33,860 --> 03:10:41,440
That gets us to conduct a business item 8A presentation by NHA advisors on the broad

1912
03:10:41,440 --> 03:10:44,500
and financing plan and request city council direction.

1913
03:10:45,520 --> 03:10:46,140
Surveillance.

1914
03:10:46,540 --> 03:10:46,820
Yes.

1915
03:10:47,300 --> 03:10:48,440
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1916
03:10:48,700 --> 03:10:50,640
One of the click is sharing the screen.

1917
03:10:50,780 --> 03:10:53,760
I want to introduce Eric Scriven of NHA advisors.

1918
03:10:54,780 --> 03:10:57,580
But just to step back a little bit.

1919
03:10:58,780 --> 03:11:02,570
We've been tasked to look in for the financing gap here.

1920
03:11:03,380 --> 03:11:05,380
Previously, it was 3.5 million.

1921
03:11:06,440 --> 03:11:10,480
That has increased to 7.8.

1922
03:11:10,480 --> 03:11:17,040
you to some of the bits that came in that you approved at the previous meeting contingent

1923
03:11:17,040 --> 03:11:25,360
on identifying funded. So we've together an Eric's going to go through this to the banks

1924
03:11:25,360 --> 03:11:32,320
that we're recommending with the interest rate and the finance in cost. He'll also go over the

1925
03:11:32,320 --> 03:11:38,500
of Phoma and how that animal debt payment is built in to the business model.

1926
03:11:39,620 --> 03:11:40,920
So with that Eric, please,

1927
03:11:43,260 --> 03:11:44,040
good evening,

1928
03:11:48,300 --> 03:11:50,940
good evening Mayor, members of the council.

1929
03:11:52,040 --> 03:11:57,760
I just stole my thunder or I guess the takeaway here, which is when the bids were opened,

1930
03:11:57,940 --> 03:12:02,860
we're about two and a half three million dollars higher than what we were discussing back

1931
03:12:02,860 --> 03:12:06,960
in November, November, we were going to go out.

1932
03:12:07,060 --> 03:12:09,260
We were given direction to go out and find money

1933
03:12:10,080 --> 03:12:13,540
for approximately $4.5 million gap.

1934
03:12:14,720 --> 03:12:15,880
And that number changed.

1935
03:12:16,300 --> 03:12:18,040
I think it was last month.

1936
03:12:18,520 --> 03:12:21,320
The number instead is about seven and a half million

1937
03:12:21,320 --> 03:12:23,320
if you ever take depend on the structure

1938
03:12:23,320 --> 03:12:29,680
that we end up deciding as the best for the transaction

1939
03:12:29,680 --> 03:12:31,980
of Council will decide to move forward with this.

1940
03:12:31,980 --> 03:12:42,820
So the goals were of course low interest rate, flexible terms for pre-paying at the time we thought we needed a more expeditious closing schedule.

1941
03:12:44,360 --> 03:12:55,840
And I think the direction that was given that was a very important piece that we went out very strongly was reducing or eliminating if possible.

1942
03:12:55,840 --> 03:13:03,080
the city's general fund as a backstop to this enterprise transaction.

1943
03:13:05,640 --> 03:13:13,200
So, in the last several weeks since the Bids were open for the project, I think that

1944
03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:14,820
was in February,

1945
03:13:17,220 --> 03:13:23,900
with that number in hand and a lot of work that had been done in the previous

1946
03:13:23,900 --> 03:13:29,900
several months on the pro-forma we went out and saw the city bank bank bids.

1947
03:13:30,740 --> 03:13:36,900
I mean just go back. This is sort of the background. I don't know that we really need to discuss why.

1948
03:13:37,920 --> 03:13:43,380
The city of Fort Bragg wants to do this. It's been discussed quite a bit.

1949
03:13:43,520 --> 03:13:47,500
Quite honestly I'm very excited to be part of this project myself.

1950
03:13:50,980 --> 03:13:57,300
The high level is the project costs are now 17.8 million.

1951
03:13:57,300 --> 03:13:58,700
I think that's in addition.

1952
03:13:59,160 --> 03:14:02,460
It's a little higher than what the Bids were, which was 17.3.

1953
03:14:02,920 --> 03:14:05,620
So there's some other costs and that's the target.

1954
03:14:06,480 --> 03:14:08,760
We have that $10.3 million grant.

1955
03:14:09,360 --> 03:14:13,500
So the gap is 7.5 million or thereabouts.

1956
03:14:15,140 --> 03:14:23,680
So the process, I've been speaking with banks for three or four months, just to gauge feasibility.

1957
03:14:24,720 --> 03:14:33,680
And then we brought in a placement agent, Oppenheimer who's very good at soliciting a wider net.

1958
03:14:34,820 --> 03:14:37,500
And they did a very good job. They went out to 10 banks.

1959
03:14:38,140 --> 03:14:46,360
The ask of these banks was a structure where we had a path.

1960
03:14:46,540 --> 03:14:48,960
We, of course, want to low rates flexible terms.

1961
03:14:49,540 --> 03:14:59,980
We wanted a longer term of 20 year term just to make the payment easier for the

1962
03:15:00,020 --> 03:15:19,880
A path up front would be great. But since this is a just a brand new enterprise, new business, if you will, public business, broadband enterprise, having that general fund backed up as the business gets started.

1963
03:15:19,880 --> 03:15:27,800
It was like likelihood, but we were asking for that not to be the case or a clear path on how the

1964
03:15:27,800 --> 03:15:30,720
general fund could be removed from the backstop.

1965
03:15:31,760 --> 03:15:40,640
So we got four good bids from reputable banks, banner bank, ever bank, cap one, and flag star

1966
03:15:40,640 --> 03:15:41,180
bank.

1967
03:15:41,840 --> 03:15:49,660
I had 20 years, the interest rates, I guess the one on the right was 15 years, so which

1968
03:15:49,660 --> 03:15:58,220
kind of put them out of the running right away because it makes the payment too high for what we wanted to have as an annual payment.

1969
03:15:58,940 --> 03:16:04,900
The two that I would focus in on are banner bank and ever bank both were 20 years attractive rate.

1970
03:16:04,900 --> 03:16:28,520
The one differentiating factor here is Everbank gave us the method for how the city could remove the backstop of the general fund if the business the broadband business started to prove itself out over a certain number of years.

1971
03:16:28,520 --> 03:16:46,020
Banner Bank provided a good bid 20 years, 5% rate, but they did not want to stand in and be the lender for the long term if the business proved out.

1972
03:16:46,620 --> 03:16:52,020
They wanted the city to pre-pay their loan and then find other money.

1973
03:16:52,020 --> 03:16:56,820
and they might have stepped up for it, but we didn't know that introduced interest rate risk

1974
03:16:56,820 --> 03:17:04,600
and other possible issues at that time in the future when the business starts to prove itself out.

1975
03:17:04,980 --> 03:17:08,860
So for that reason, we do recommend every bank.

1976
03:17:11,950 --> 03:17:17,090
Lowest rate, it gives us an opportunity to

1977
03:17:17,090 --> 03:17:26,270
to show that the business, if you will, the public broadband enterprise, and handled the

1978
03:17:26,270 --> 03:17:36,370
debt payments itself over three years, proving that it's showing a one-one and a quarter-time

1979
03:17:37,090 --> 03:17:42,250
coverage on the debt payment for three years, and then there's a mechanism in the documents

1980
03:17:42,250 --> 03:17:46,350
to remove the city's general fund backed up,

1981
03:17:46,770 --> 03:17:48,450
which was what we were looking for.

1982
03:17:49,070 --> 03:17:51,630
There's no assets being pledged to this transaction.

1983
03:17:51,930 --> 03:17:53,570
It's a straight revenue pledge.

1984
03:17:54,390 --> 03:17:57,610
They do ask for one year debt service reserve fund,

1985
03:17:57,870 --> 03:17:59,630
which is standard credit feature.

1986
03:17:59,890 --> 03:18:04,250
We're recommending that the city utilize funds.

1987
03:18:05,450 --> 03:18:11,470
That it's already has and restrict those towards this transaction and invest them

1988
03:18:11,470 --> 03:18:17,970
as opposed to raising the money and having a negative carry on that money, which would dilute

1989
03:18:17,970 --> 03:18:24,030
the economics a bit more. There is flexible pre-payments if there's a better deal to be found

1990
03:18:24,030 --> 03:18:39,950
down the road. There is some options for changing our net debt payment. We may want to add some

1991
03:18:39,950 --> 03:18:44,050
term as the business gets started.

1992
03:18:49,240 --> 03:18:52,480
I don't know if you can all read these, these figures.

1993
03:18:52,880 --> 03:18:59,260
This is really what we have been a guiding document. We've spent a lot of time over the last

1994
03:18:59,260 --> 03:19:06,760
several months speaking with your consultants, Mitch and Sage and Sarah and your city manager.

1995
03:19:07,980 --> 03:19:14,160
Really, really refining the business, the performance numbers have been gone through the

1996
03:19:14,160 --> 03:19:24,340
transition from the MCN situation and over time as the fibers installed and that service is ruled out.

1997
03:19:24,720 --> 03:19:41,380
You can see the transition from MCN to the Fort Bragg broadband public entity figures, where we stabilize the operations, if you will, in about three and a half years out.

1998
03:19:41,380 --> 03:19:46,300
So that the first full normalized year is 2021.

1999
03:19:47,240 --> 03:19:53,100
As you can see, all the revenues that would put some detail to the revenues

2000
03:19:54,620 --> 03:20:04,260
really analyzed using the expertise of Sage, particularly, who's had been with MCN

2001
03:20:04,260 --> 03:20:10,240
on some of the expenditures, and what you can see down there that's in the dotted box,

2002
03:20:10,240 --> 03:20:16,840
which I think is what we're really focused is can this new enterprise carry the debt payment.

2003
03:20:17,500 --> 03:20:21,080
We are projecting in this pro-forma, but it's subject to change,

2004
03:20:21,440 --> 03:20:30,040
that it would be interest only for several years and then would ramp up to a $645,000 annual payment

2005
03:20:30,040 --> 03:20:37,200
for the remainder of the 20-year term. As you can see, there's some negative carry and 2026

2006
03:20:37,200 --> 03:20:45,180
and negative and 2027 and then you start to go positive and 2028 and the first year of

2007
03:20:45,180 --> 03:20:56,700
stabilized performa circumstances in 2029 and I can't really see but I think we're at a 1.4

2008
03:20:56,700 --> 03:21:07,380
times coverage, which if we execute or the city executes on that for three years, that's when

2009
03:21:07,380 --> 03:21:13,380
the backstop from the general fund is removed approximately 2031.

2010
03:21:15,530 --> 03:21:16,890
Are there any questions on this?

2011
03:21:16,890 --> 03:21:23,590
This is a pretty important one, and Sarah's here to talk about if there's the business plan here

2012
03:21:23,590 --> 03:21:29,570
is a pre-strait for one. There's other opportunities that I'm not an expert on that

2013
03:21:29,570 --> 03:21:36,530
Sage and Mitch and Sarah have talked about that might be present that might add to the revenue

2014
03:21:36,530 --> 03:21:42,170
lines, but I think this is something that good to ask questions on.

2015
03:21:44,090 --> 03:21:51,650
I need to show my ignorance, but what is it backed up? Is that a asset that you're holding in

2016
03:21:52,690 --> 03:22:14,370
It's the back stuff, we've structured this, so there's no assets in the transaction, so the initial pledge to pay debt payment to the bank for this loan, if you will, is a gross revenue pledge, so the gross revenue pledge.

2017
03:22:14,370 --> 03:22:23,670
So the the debt payment comes off the top and what is happening here where the teeth are in the the documents is that the city will

2018
03:22:23,910 --> 03:22:29,890
Covenant to maintain and operate this enterprise to a high standard.

2019
03:22:30,150 --> 03:22:32,970
So that means that you're going to pay your salaries.

2020
03:22:33,170 --> 03:22:40,370
You're going to maintain and the operations and that that you can utilize any legally available funds,

2021
03:22:40,370 --> 03:22:46,990
which usually will mean that the general fund is going to stand in if there's negatives that

2022
03:22:46,990 --> 03:22:52,370
you have to pay expenses. The general fund will do that until that lean. That gross pledge

2023
03:22:52,370 --> 03:22:59,610
lean flips after three years of one and one point two five times coverage after those three

2024
03:22:59,610 --> 03:23:07,470
years occur. Then it'll flip to a net revenue pledge and it'll be solely the broadband enterprise

2025
03:23:07,470 --> 03:23:14,090
that is on the hook in general fund, if you will, is removed from the equation.

2026
03:23:14,850 --> 03:23:23,910
But it's a startup enterprise, so that was really a requirement for any lender to step up.

2027
03:23:26,300 --> 03:23:35,520
Was there still a possibility of the MCN transition being cheaper than it was originally planned?

2028
03:23:37,310 --> 03:23:40,430
We're still working through that process.

2029
03:23:42,010 --> 03:23:44,690
I do not have a formal response at this time,

2030
03:23:45,890 --> 03:23:48,890
but we are awaiting some of the documents

2031
03:23:48,890 --> 03:23:52,770
that we've requested from MCM to confirm that evaluation

2032
03:23:52,770 --> 03:23:54,330
of half a million dollars.

2033
03:23:54,950 --> 03:23:59,650
But at this time, I cannot formally say that it's going to be lower

2034
03:23:59,650 --> 03:24:01,890
until we receive all that documents

2035
03:24:01,890 --> 03:24:03,450
and have concluded the process.

2036
03:24:03,450 --> 03:24:09,530
Okay, well if it is significantly lower, how does that affect this?

2037
03:24:09,930 --> 03:24:18,850
Yes, so then it would reduce the $50,000 acquisition payment that's on the last line there.

2038
03:24:19,270 --> 03:24:31,010
Based on the payment terms that we would negotiate based on the amount that the menacing abort would approve and the city council as well.

2039
03:24:31,010 --> 03:24:34,250
but right now it's at 50,000 if it's lower,

2040
03:24:34,610 --> 03:24:36,310
that's going to be lower as well.

2041
03:24:40,530 --> 03:24:41,310
Other questions, colleagues?

2042
03:24:41,890 --> 03:24:43,570
So really tonight, we're just giving direction

2043
03:24:43,570 --> 03:24:49,110
as to select the ever bank, and then we'll go through

2044
03:24:49,110 --> 03:24:53,030
a bond council, and then our credit approval through the bank.

2045
03:24:53,510 --> 03:24:55,910
And then we, we're not really finalized.

2046
03:24:55,930 --> 03:24:57,410
We're just giving directions tonight,

2047
03:24:58,310 --> 03:24:59,630
and there's the one right there.

2048
03:25:03,060 --> 03:25:05,680
So that timeline, really,

2049
03:25:05,680 --> 03:25:07,360
You did it on the head, sir.

2050
03:25:09,000 --> 03:25:14,460
Back in November, I think you had given direction

2051
03:25:14,460 --> 03:25:19,980
and authorization to your CManger to execute a term sheet.

2052
03:25:20,500 --> 03:25:22,900
But that was for a four and a half million dollar gallon.

2053
03:25:24,340 --> 03:25:26,920
And we thought we're going to move fairly rapidly

2054
03:25:26,920 --> 03:25:29,840
and we slowed everything down to nail the proton

2055
03:25:29,840 --> 03:25:33,200
down, wait for the bid to actually come in.

2056
03:25:33,200 --> 03:25:34,240
Thanksfully, we did.

2057
03:25:34,240 --> 03:25:39,640
So, and now it's a higher amount, but again, so it's a higher amount.

2058
03:25:39,660 --> 03:25:46,200
You need to look at everything once again to give your city manager direction, which

2059
03:25:46,200 --> 03:25:51,880
had been given previously, to execute that term sheet, and that needs to be done by tomorrow.

2060
03:25:52,440 --> 03:25:58,940
The lender has asked, we've asked for an extension, they gave it, we've got the bids

2061
03:25:58,940 --> 03:26:01,120
about 10, 12 days ago.

2062
03:26:01,560 --> 03:26:02,800
But we wanted to do this.

2063
03:26:02,800 --> 03:26:07,200
So, and the big piece of grant funding for this, there's a timeline too, right?

2064
03:26:07,880 --> 03:26:09,000
There is.

2065
03:26:09,080 --> 03:26:12,060
Which is why I wanted to make sure this timeline is okay.

2066
03:26:12,620 --> 03:26:17,680
I think the December 26th is to expand all the funds.

2067
03:26:18,400 --> 03:26:22,480
But, as I just wanted to address so, the reason this is coming back,

2068
03:26:22,980 --> 03:26:26,460
because obviously the higher required funding.

2069
03:26:27,200 --> 03:26:31,060
I know you had given direction for me to sign that term sheet,

2070
03:26:31,060 --> 03:26:33,640
but I wanted to bring this back just because

2071
03:26:33,640 --> 03:26:35,820
the amount's higher and that's why they're coming forward.

2072
03:26:36,420 --> 03:26:38,160
The Sarah, did you want to speak to the grant?

2073
03:26:38,940 --> 03:26:43,060
I just wanted to say that after talking to the CPUC last week,

2074
03:26:44,540 --> 03:26:48,040
that they have some state money, some federal money,

2075
03:26:48,120 --> 03:26:50,340
and they're planning and finishing out most of these projects

2076
03:26:50,340 --> 03:26:53,000
with state funding, and so it even sounds like our expenditure

2077
03:26:53,000 --> 03:26:54,680
date might get to be able to be extended.

2078
03:26:55,660 --> 03:26:59,140
So just when you said it, we have to, I'm hoping we have more

2079
03:26:59,140 --> 03:27:01,100
a little more important.

2080
03:27:01,100 --> 03:27:02,200
Don't worry, questions.

2081
03:27:04,360 --> 03:27:07,640
How did we undershoot so much?

2082
03:27:07,920 --> 03:27:09,780
Can you tell us what went into these bits?

2083
03:27:10,740 --> 03:27:12,520
I'm sorry, you know, what happened?

2084
03:27:12,760 --> 03:27:13,240
Yeah, I think it's true.

2085
03:27:14,920 --> 03:27:17,260
There's a few different things that are going

2086
03:27:17,260 --> 03:27:21,560
about the original FFA application that we put together

2087
03:27:21,560 --> 03:27:23,680
was a little half-baked.

2088
03:27:23,860 --> 03:27:26,840
The timeline was very quick, and so we just really

2089
03:27:26,840 --> 03:27:31,240
pedal to the metal, just did the hours that we to make sure that we had something solid.

2090
03:27:31,660 --> 03:27:35,660
So we've been kind of really going back ever since we got turned in that application

2091
03:27:35,660 --> 03:27:41,600
and refining it and reworking it until we get to a point where we felt really solid with it.

2092
03:27:41,600 --> 03:27:46,260
And then when the bids came in, they came in higher, the construction bids, then we anticipated.

2093
03:27:47,120 --> 03:27:52,520
And that's in both that and the construction management bid. And that's we didn't really have.

2094
03:27:52,520 --> 03:27:57,700
It's kind of the gold rush right now in California with broadband construction and construction management.

2095
03:27:58,300 --> 03:28:00,200
We didn't really know what we were going to get.

2096
03:28:01,500 --> 03:28:07,040
One of the things I've noticed is that the main discrepancies with the directional drill boring.

2097
03:28:07,560 --> 03:28:12,440
You can go through granite rock and you're going to be going to cost you a lot more money or you can go through

2098
03:28:12,440 --> 03:28:19,140
Sandy, you know, Sandy rock, you know, Sandy subsurface like we have here and it could go from

2099
03:28:19,140 --> 03:28:38,340
$13 to $80 a square foot, and we just didn't know how people were going to react. You know, do that. We ended up choosing somebody that had, I think it was $30 a square foot, which was even higher than what we put. I think we put in $24 a square foot based on our sandy soils. So that's what happened.

2100
03:28:38,340 --> 03:28:40,860
Let's see if it was around that drill boring.

2101
03:28:42,460 --> 03:28:42,980
Ouch.

2102
03:28:46,740 --> 03:28:48,680
Any other questions for comments?

2103
03:28:48,940 --> 03:28:51,600
Otherwise, I'll open it up to the public.

2104
03:28:52,900 --> 03:28:54,460
Anyone in the room like to speak on the side?

2105
03:29:00,760 --> 03:29:01,680
Hey, Jacob Patterson.

2106
03:29:02,980 --> 03:29:08,740
At first, I was actually kind of hesitant about our general fund taking any potential liability about this,

2107
03:29:08,740 --> 03:29:14,380
but I was very happy to read in this that there is an escape patch built into this lender,

2108
03:29:14,380 --> 03:29:18,620
which is why I'm glad they recommended this particular lender without that.

2109
03:29:18,740 --> 03:29:23,440
I don't think we should do this. I was also concerned that the bid through so high are

2110
03:29:23,440 --> 03:29:29,200
saying, I should say bid, because we did only get a single bid. There's no comparisons. We just got one.

2111
03:29:29,480 --> 03:29:34,180
But we are kind of remote and we always have trouble getting contractors to come up here and do things.

2112
03:29:36,260 --> 03:29:42,360
My other question and concern about this project was when last time when you guys talked about it,

2113
03:29:43,480 --> 03:29:45,260
to describe that it was going to be built

2114
03:29:45,260 --> 03:29:48,200
to how only two little stubs of the property line.

2115
03:29:48,440 --> 03:29:49,900
And then I was like, well, who's going to pay

2116
03:29:49,900 --> 03:29:52,000
for the connection between the app and the house?

2117
03:29:52,160 --> 03:29:54,160
And she said, they have, in fact, but she did it all that

2118
03:29:54,160 --> 03:29:55,300
for the utility to do it.

2119
03:29:55,460 --> 03:29:57,880
Because I thought in Fort Bragg, with a lot of people,

2120
03:29:58,840 --> 03:29:59,960
even though this will be cheaper.

2121
03:30:01,160 --> 03:30:06,360
If there's a significant cost to actually get it connected to your house, I think a lot of people wouldn't do it.

2122
03:30:07,300 --> 03:30:11,240
I mean, people of trouble paying their water bills here, who wants to front money.

2123
03:30:11,940 --> 03:30:16,020
But since the utility is going to pay that, I think most people will sign up for this.

2124
03:30:16,220 --> 03:30:18,200
Like I personally am looking forward to this.

2125
03:30:18,480 --> 03:30:27,040
And out of all our economic development initiatives, I think this is the one that is the most solid that has the most likely return on investment.

2126
03:30:28,760 --> 03:30:30,920
So, I encourage you to approve this.

2127
03:30:31,140 --> 03:30:34,360
The one question I was going to ask before he answered it already was,

2128
03:30:34,600 --> 03:30:36,160
do we have a pre-payment penalty?

2129
03:30:36,640 --> 03:30:38,320
Can we pre-pay this?

2130
03:30:38,320 --> 03:30:40,320
And he said, yes, there are pre-payment options.

2131
03:30:41,020 --> 03:30:43,760
I might want to know a little bit more details about that.

2132
03:30:44,440 --> 03:30:46,140
But if interest rates go down,

2133
03:30:46,760 --> 03:30:49,840
we do have the option of revamping and paying it earlier, whatever.

2134
03:30:51,200 --> 03:30:54,940
But to me, I recommend you approve this.

2135
03:30:54,940 --> 03:31:02,280
Despite some hesitations I've had, I feel comfortable based on what I've heard. Thank you.

2136
03:31:02,400 --> 03:31:04,520
All right, thank you. Anyone else in the room?

2137
03:31:07,170 --> 03:31:07,910
All right, online.

2138
03:31:09,070 --> 03:31:13,390
Please use the raise hand feature for Peppa comments on 8A.

2139
03:31:17,960 --> 03:31:19,720
Enter Jordan, you have three minutes.

2140
03:31:20,880 --> 03:31:21,760
Hi, thank you.

2141
03:31:22,920 --> 03:31:25,680
I think Mr. Patterson's remarks are on point.

2142
03:31:27,860 --> 03:31:29,180
I think they have a lot of validity.

2143
03:31:30,620 --> 03:31:37,820
On the technical side, fiber optics is going to transcend the geography that isolates Fort

2144
03:31:37,820 --> 03:31:38,320
Bragg.

2145
03:31:41,610 --> 03:31:47,270
And I think this is an investment in the future that will pay off for the city, hopefully

2146
03:31:47,270 --> 03:31:49,530
admirably, hopefully really well.

2147
03:31:50,950 --> 03:31:57,190
But along with that, there may be the issue of gentrification, where people are attracted

2148
03:31:57,190 --> 03:32:07,750
to this location and invest and improve their houses and businesses and there may be more

2149
03:32:07,750 --> 03:32:11,450
competition for the limited space here.

2150
03:32:14,230 --> 03:32:18,570
The foresight that the council can exercise in creating

2151
03:32:18,570 --> 03:32:23,430
this asset for the community, I think will create a lot of benefit for the schools, businesses,

2152
03:32:23,430 --> 03:32:27,570
and the families and residents is here in Fort Bragg.

2153
03:32:27,770 --> 03:32:31,430
I'm kind of dismayed that the city has to suffer an additional burden,

2154
03:32:32,330 --> 03:32:39,920
but if we have limited bidders for the project, that may be just something we're stuck with.

2155
03:32:40,990 --> 03:32:47,530
As far as hasty or loose or kind of back of the envelope calculations,

2156
03:32:47,830 --> 03:32:52,270
I always hope that that is made clear to the council at the very outset

2157
03:32:52,270 --> 03:33:00,970
So that they kind of know how much risk and reliance is available to the City Council for these projects.

2158
03:33:02,150 --> 03:33:03,770
Thank you very much.

2159
03:33:10,530 --> 03:33:10,550
Okay.

2160
03:33:11,910 --> 03:33:14,750
Bring back to council for discussion and direction.

2161
03:33:18,800 --> 03:33:21,140
I'd like to see this go forward with this.

2162
03:33:22,750 --> 03:33:23,850
I'll remember how it

2163
03:33:26,480 --> 03:33:26,820
counts.

2164
03:33:27,020 --> 03:33:33,280
I think we've been down this roadways and we're not turning back.

2165
03:33:33,280 --> 03:33:34,640
So let's keep moving forward.

2166
03:33:34,660 --> 03:33:39,000
I think this is, I know there, I got a question today

2167
03:33:39,000 --> 03:33:42,320
from someone that said, what's the benefit

2168
03:33:42,320 --> 03:33:43,940
of broadband for drag?

2169
03:33:46,240 --> 03:33:50,060
And not being the most computer literate person, in fact,

2170
03:33:50,480 --> 03:33:54,720
being almost computer literate, I really could answer that.

2171
03:33:55,600 --> 03:33:57,760
So I'm all for this and everything.

2172
03:33:58,220 --> 03:34:03,620
And I know we've talked about it before, but hopefully,

2173
03:34:03,620 --> 03:34:10,640
people understand at least from my perspective, and what I've heard about businesses, about the

2174
03:34:10,640 --> 03:34:18,860
education, will advantages of this. Just about the going to the League of California cities,

2175
03:34:19,120 --> 03:34:25,240
talking to other communities, other council members and mayors, and what a difference it made to

2176
03:34:25,240 --> 03:34:31,140
their community. One little one is winter's California. Folks know where that is. They somehow connected

2177
03:34:31,140 --> 03:34:33,200
to broadband met a huge difference for them.

2178
03:34:33,500 --> 03:34:37,320
A small little farming community between Davis and Lake Barrier,

2179
03:34:38,180 --> 03:34:40,380
so I know that there's advantages.

2180
03:34:41,160 --> 03:34:42,840
I just I can't articulate what they are,

2181
03:34:42,900 --> 03:34:47,740
because that's just I think I'm just too old and that went by me.

2182
03:34:47,980 --> 03:34:51,760
I won't wait, but so yeah, let's let's do this.

2183
03:34:52,960 --> 03:34:56,220
I could say that it took 10 hours to upload all the pictures

2184
03:34:56,220 --> 03:35:00,780
for the well-run on the broadband that we have today.

2185
03:35:02,160 --> 03:35:07,160
And with new one, I imagine it would be like, thank you.

2186
03:35:10,180 --> 03:35:11,940
Are you going to be pre-selling this?

2187
03:35:12,440 --> 03:35:19,000
Or we're just going to wait till we open up and then go solicit people to sign up or you're going to pre-sell this?

2188
03:35:19,940 --> 03:35:23,600
Yeah, we're going to start with current MCN customers.

2189
03:35:24,280 --> 03:35:25,400
We'll kind of come on board.

2190
03:35:25,400 --> 03:35:36,480
And then we will undertake a robust marketing effort to get more customers from other competitors here in the community.

2191
03:35:37,520 --> 03:35:46,780
There's also opportunities for a future development to kind of have the city's broadband, the part of those development process.

2192
03:35:46,780 --> 03:36:07,760
And then there's other opportunities like telehealth, tele education, but but so step one is to make sure the MCN customers come one board. So day one, you're getting that revenue with an upgraded service and then undertaking more marketing outfits and that's why the team is is important to make sure it's a successful enterprise.

2193
03:36:07,760 --> 03:36:16,080
So the eight full-time employees will be very critical in making sure it's successful, right?

2194
03:36:16,920 --> 03:36:23,870
And then of course to all the economic development opportunities that it would bring from remote work to a greenhouse structure here.

2195
03:36:24,720 --> 03:36:34,680
It checks all the boxes and it also ties into the cities overall goals on improving the way we support our businesses and our community.

2196
03:36:34,680 --> 03:36:44,920
But, you know, the performance speaks for itself with a being in the black, once we have, you know, kind of fully service and 2029.

2197
03:36:46,180 --> 03:36:48,620
And then we'll just add to that and we'll go and follow it.

2198
03:36:48,800 --> 03:36:51,540
And, you know, MCN has a lot of support locally.

2199
03:36:52,040 --> 03:36:57,160
So we're taking those customers just upgrading the service and doubling down on our marketing efforts.

2200
03:36:57,680 --> 03:36:58,780
That's the plan.

2201
03:37:00,960 --> 03:37:02,100
All right. Thank you.

2202
03:37:02,100 --> 03:37:09,720
I certainly feel the risk and I feel the concerns of, you know, I think we're seeing this over and over again,

2203
03:37:09,820 --> 03:37:15,880
the things you've sent up costing more than is anticipated. I mean, it just keeps acting for practically everything.

2204
03:37:16,500 --> 03:37:21,660
And so I think in some respects, that's the nature of the beast. But when you think about the kinds of things

2205
03:37:21,660 --> 03:37:27,500
a city government can do to try to, say, diversify our economy, you know, and come up with new jobs for our

2206
03:37:27,500 --> 03:37:30,980
high school graduates or those who go to college and come back or want to come back and live here,

2207
03:37:30,980 --> 03:37:37,420
They're not that many ways that we can do it, and this is a very concrete mechanism for doing exactly that.

2208
03:37:37,800 --> 03:37:45,740
So it does involve risk, but it is also one that is far-seeing and one that has a lot of potential gain.

2209
03:37:46,240 --> 03:37:50,960
So my hope is, and the big concern for me is that it remains affordable.

2210
03:37:51,400 --> 03:37:55,560
We want this to be affordable service for people, so that has to be one of the overarching goals.

2211
03:37:56,500 --> 03:38:01,080
But otherwise, we get, are we ready to direct?

2212
03:38:01,840 --> 03:38:03,920
Vice Mayor, we haven't heard from you.

2213
03:38:08,110 --> 03:38:08,550
Yes.

2214
03:38:09,810 --> 03:38:13,650
I was on for it, and I changed my mind, and I was like, no, this is a bad idea.

2215
03:38:15,010 --> 03:38:21,330
But then I did a little research and talk to a couple of people and let's go.

2216
03:38:22,090 --> 03:38:22,270
Okay.

2217
03:38:23,250 --> 03:38:26,290
We'll go for it in the long run.

2218
03:38:26,290 --> 03:38:26,530
All right,

2219
03:38:30,900 --> 03:38:34,640
so Isaac, we want to be sure to give you the direction that you need, or we

2220
03:38:34,640 --> 03:38:42,100
ready to direct you to pursue a loan with ever bank, but we'll have to count some members

2221
03:38:42,100 --> 03:38:43,920
thumbs up if you want to pursue the ever bank.

2222
03:38:43,940 --> 03:38:48,280
Back in that interest rate, lock in that interest rate, you've got until tomorrow, okay?

2223
03:38:48,740 --> 03:38:51,080
All right, we have, it looks like we have five thumbs up.

2224
03:38:51,400 --> 03:38:52,300
What's that?

2225
03:38:54,340 --> 03:38:54,480
I'm sorry.

2226
03:38:54,980 --> 03:38:56,360
Oh, yes, sure.

2227
03:38:59,260 --> 03:39:04,400
Yeah, and if we can do a roll call set of quote, please.

2228
03:39:07,110 --> 03:39:08,090
Peters. Yes.

2229
03:39:08,370 --> 03:39:08,970
Bucket.

2230
03:39:09,250 --> 03:39:11,710
Elven Smith. Absolutely. Yes.

2231
03:39:12,010 --> 03:39:13,090
Rathen in.

2232
03:39:13,470 --> 03:39:13,610
Good.

2233
03:39:13,910 --> 03:39:14,470
Yes.

2234
03:39:15,990 --> 03:39:16,190
All right.

2235
03:39:16,570 --> 03:39:18,690
That will take us to item 80.

2236
03:39:19,710 --> 03:39:21,910
Presentation from hope consulting,

2237
03:39:22,470 --> 03:39:24,630
recycled water feasibility study, overview,

2238
03:39:25,070 --> 03:39:26,870
and information on community involvement.

2239
03:39:27,970 --> 03:39:29,790
Mr. Smith, are you going to do this for us?

2240
03:39:29,790 --> 03:39:30,190
Yes, sir.

2241
03:39:30,190 --> 03:39:31,830
Okay, thank you very much.

2242
03:39:32,230 --> 03:39:33,170
It's very rare.

2243
03:39:34,070 --> 03:39:34,330
Hope.

2244
03:39:35,850 --> 03:39:37,530
We have Carrie and Scather.

2245
03:39:39,850 --> 03:39:40,070
Welcome.

2246
03:39:40,530 --> 03:39:43,590
Yeah, thanks for hanging out with us for such a long time.

2247
03:39:45,010 --> 03:39:46,970
Just a very excellent company.

2248
03:39:48,050 --> 03:39:50,190
Done fantastic work thus far,

2249
03:39:50,210 --> 03:39:52,710
and we're just looking forward to finishing this,

2250
03:39:53,010 --> 03:39:56,690
and get some more water connected to our system.

2251
03:39:56,690 --> 03:40:00,750
So I'll let them describe and speak.

2252
03:40:01,270 --> 03:40:03,670
They're the experts, and I'll hang up with them.

2253
03:40:08,260 --> 03:40:10,460
Well, thank you.

2254
03:40:11,080 --> 03:40:13,940
Are we able to queue up the PowerPoint?

2255
03:40:15,500 --> 03:40:16,760
Yep, I'm feeling ahead of right now.

2256
03:40:16,800 --> 03:40:20,320
Let me know when you guys can see it in the council chambers.

2257
03:40:22,630 --> 03:40:24,150
And we can go to the next slide.

2258
03:40:24,970 --> 03:40:27,350
Good evening, Honorable Mayor and City Council members.

2259
03:40:27,590 --> 03:40:30,930
My name is Curie Dale, and I am the Director of Water Resources

2260
03:40:30,930 --> 03:40:37,410
with Hoke Consulting. Hoke was hired to develop the city's recycled water feasibility study,

2261
03:40:37,730 --> 03:40:44,730
and a component of this work is to provide public outreach and engagement. Tonight's presentation

2262
03:40:44,730 --> 03:40:50,290
consists of an overview of the city's water supply sources and the challenges, particularly

2263
03:40:50,290 --> 03:40:58,090
for this community, an overview of the feasibility study, and then also what is in the queue for

2264
03:40:58,090 --> 03:41:04,270
public engagement work. Also providing portions of the presentation this evening is

2265
03:41:04,270 --> 03:41:09,310
Skyler Stevens. She is a senior water resource specialist with Hoke and is primarily

2266
03:41:09,310 --> 03:41:12,370
handling the public outreach component of the project.

2267
03:41:14,230 --> 03:41:18,690
This evening I will be presenting on the details of the city's water supply system.

2268
03:41:19,150 --> 03:41:25,070
Customer water demands overview of the feasibility study and ways that the community can

2269
03:41:25,070 --> 03:41:28,550
engage with the project team to provide input on supply alternatives.

2270
03:41:29,930 --> 03:41:31,690
So let's jump in.

2271
03:41:34,640 --> 03:41:40,020
First I'm going to start today by doing a quick overview of the city's current water supply system.

2272
03:41:41,180 --> 03:41:49,040
Fort Bragg's water supply utilizes three natural surface water sources that work together to keep water flowing to the community.

2273
03:41:49,040 --> 03:41:53,840
They are waterfall gulch, numen gulch, and the noo-river.

2274
03:41:54,860 --> 03:42:00,940
During winter and spring months, waterfall gulch and numen gulch serve as primary water sources

2275
03:42:00,940 --> 03:42:05,240
with the noo-river providing supplemental supplies needed.

2276
03:42:06,060 --> 03:42:12,640
These tributary sources are particularly valuable as they utilize gravity flow to deliver

2277
03:42:12,640 --> 03:42:18,460
high-quality raw water to the treatment facility, requiring no pumping infrastructure.

2278
03:42:20,420 --> 03:42:27,240
As seasonal patterns shift into summer, decreased flows in the tributary streams, increases

2279
03:42:27,240 --> 03:42:29,000
reliance on the Nio River.

2280
03:42:30,000 --> 03:42:33,360
Water from the Nio River must be pumped to reach the treatment plant.

2281
03:42:34,420 --> 03:42:40,740
Currently the city maintains a total water storage capacity of 22.6 million gallons across

2282
03:42:40,740 --> 03:42:47,620
system infrastructure to help manage these seasonal variations. This capacity allows for the city to store

2283
03:42:47,620 --> 03:42:53,220
excess water during wet months to be utilized as needed during dry times.

2284
03:42:56,830 --> 03:42:57,630
Now that you understand

2285
03:42:57,630 --> 03:43:03,750
where the water comes from, let me show you how it gets to your tap. The water treatment plant is

2286
03:43:03,750 --> 03:43:10,610
like a giant filter for the whole city. It can treat up to 2.2 million gallons of water per day,

2287
03:43:10,610 --> 03:43:14,090
which is enough to fill three Olympic-sized swimming pools.

2288
03:43:15,310 --> 03:43:21,130
The plant takes the water we just talked about from the streams and rivers and makes it safe for everyone to drink.

2289
03:43:21,950 --> 03:43:25,810
The city also has the emergency storage in the summer's lane reservoir.

2290
03:43:26,590 --> 03:43:31,290
Just like you might save money for a rainy day, the city saves water there for dry times.

2291
03:43:32,290 --> 03:43:35,550
After everyone in town uses the water it needs to be cleaned.

2292
03:43:36,210 --> 03:43:38,490
That's where the wastewater treatment plant comes in.

2293
03:43:38,490 --> 03:43:44,090
And this facility can handle almost 1 million gallons of used water on dry days.

2294
03:43:44,870 --> 03:43:51,730
The best part is that most of the water moves through the city naturally downhill using gravity instead of pumps.

2295
03:43:52,450 --> 03:43:55,750
These facilities are the backbone of the water and wastewater system.

2296
03:43:56,270 --> 03:44:03,330
But the city is looking for ways to make the facilities meet future water demand, especially during dry times.

2297
03:44:05,730 --> 03:44:12,170
The city currently relies on this interconnected surface water system, and while this system

2298
03:44:12,170 --> 03:44:17,690
has served the community well, recent experiences with drought and climate change have highlighted

2299
03:44:17,690 --> 03:44:20,750
some important challenges the city needs to address.

2300
03:44:22,230 --> 03:44:27,690
During drought conditions, the city has had to implement emergency conservation measures to maintain

2301
03:44:27,690 --> 03:44:33,270
essential water service for the community. The situations have made it clear that the city needs

2302
03:44:33,270 --> 03:44:40,870
diversify its water supply portfolio. Just like your bank account having a diversity of water

2303
03:44:40,870 --> 03:44:46,530
supply sources allows the city to be more reliable as changing environmental circumstances

2304
03:44:46,530 --> 03:44:52,450
come into play. These drought and climate events have taught the city a valuable lesson about the

2305
03:44:52,450 --> 03:44:58,750
importance of having multiple reliable water sources to serve Fort Bragg's residents and businesses.

2306
03:44:58,750 --> 03:44:59,970
wildest

2307
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:10,700
City is implemented robust conservation measures. It is also simultaneously exploring additional water supply options that could enhance the system's reliability.

2308
03:45:13,380 --> 03:45:29,120
And let me explain why diversifying the water supply is so critical for Fort Bragg. Think of it like managing your retirement portfolio. You wouldn't want to invest everything in just one stock. California's climate has become increasingly unpredictable.

2309
03:45:29,120 --> 03:45:33,120
and you've seen this firsthand years of severe drought

2310
03:45:33,120 --> 03:45:36,360
destroying the water supplies followed by intense storms

2311
03:45:36,360 --> 03:45:38,020
that overwhelm the systems.

2312
03:45:38,780 --> 03:45:41,160
It's like experiencing both feast and famine

2313
03:45:41,160 --> 03:45:43,040
when it comes to water resources.

2314
03:45:44,280 --> 03:45:46,860
Currently, as I mentioned, the city relies heavily

2315
03:45:46,860 --> 03:45:48,240
on its streams and rivers.

2316
03:45:48,780 --> 03:45:50,400
And while these have served you well,

2317
03:45:50,900 --> 03:45:53,820
it's similar to depending on just one source of income

2318
03:45:54,360 --> 03:45:57,880
when that source is affected, everyone feels the impact.

2319
03:45:57,880 --> 03:46:07,980
During extended dry periods these surface water sources become increasingly vulnerable, and that's why you're exploring additional water supply options.

2320
03:46:08,760 --> 03:46:15,620
Having multiple water sources works like diversifying your investments, it provides security and stability.

2321
03:46:16,360 --> 03:46:22,180
If one source is stressed due to drought, you can lean more heavily on others to meet the community's needs.

2322
03:46:22,180 --> 03:46:31,320
By planning ahead and developing new water sources now, you're building a more resilient system that can handle whatever weather patterns come your way.

2323
03:46:32,060 --> 03:46:38,520
This will ensure that Fort Brake will have reliable water access not just today, but for generations to come.

2324
03:46:42,330 --> 03:46:54,810
This past December, hoe consulting was hired by the city to conduct a recycled water feasibility study to assess the feasibility of using recycled water for various reuse applications.

2325
03:46:54,810 --> 03:46:59,350
to enhance the resilience and reliability of its water system.

2326
03:47:00,250 --> 03:47:03,770
The feasibility study is a technical evaluation

2327
03:47:03,770 --> 03:47:06,150
that helps determine the best solutions

2328
03:47:06,150 --> 03:47:08,350
before making major investments.

2329
03:47:09,390 --> 03:47:12,590
This process ensures that any future water supply project

2330
03:47:12,590 --> 03:47:15,430
is technically sound and cost effective

2331
03:47:15,430 --> 03:47:16,490
or the community.

2332
03:47:17,390 --> 03:47:20,010
The feasibility study is also a necessary step

2333
03:47:20,010 --> 03:47:22,570
to lay the groundwork for various grant funding

2334
03:47:22,570 --> 03:47:24,950
for the construction aspect of the project.

2335
03:47:25,870 --> 03:47:31,030
The study will focus on identifying and prioritizing the most viable alternatives

2336
03:47:31,540 --> 03:47:38,330
and providing a plan for implementing cost-effective treatment technologies that comply with current regulations.

2337
03:47:39,510 --> 03:47:48,410
Key project elements include assessing water, customer water demands, determining available sources and volumes of recycled water,

2338
03:47:48,410 --> 03:47:54,150
Cost estimates and project feasibility, system hydraulics and capacity,

2339
03:47:55,030 --> 03:48:01,350
pollution control alternatives, potential, environmental impacts both beneficial and adverse

2340
03:48:01,350 --> 03:48:07,590
and permitting challenges, pipeline locations and the feasibility of serving customers.

2341
03:48:10,090 --> 03:48:13,790
Now let me walk you through what this feasibility study really means for the community.

2342
03:48:14,550 --> 03:48:18,870
Think of it as doing your due diligence before making a major home improvement.

2343
03:48:18,870 --> 03:48:22,530
You want to make sure you're making the right investment for the right reasons.

2344
03:48:23,230 --> 03:48:26,830
And during this process, we'll be looking at various water supply options,

2345
03:48:27,110 --> 03:48:32,490
evaluating what's possible, what's practical, and what makes the most sense for Fort Bragg.

2346
03:48:33,190 --> 03:48:39,370
We'll examine the technical aspects such as can it be constructed, the environmental impacts,

2347
03:48:39,590 --> 03:48:45,410
how it affects the surroundings, and the cost versus the benefits such as

2348
03:48:45,410 --> 03:48:47,270
is it a good investment for the community.

2349
03:48:47,270 --> 03:48:55,010
The study will give the city the detailed information that will be needed to make smart decisions about the city's water future.

2350
03:48:55,790 --> 03:48:58,070
Most importantly, your input matters.

2351
03:48:58,790 --> 03:49:02,290
Think of this as a community-wide discussion about your water future.

2352
03:49:02,610 --> 03:49:07,510
Your perspectives and concerns will help shape which options the city pursues,

2353
03:49:07,930 --> 03:49:12,030
ensuring that it's final decisions reflect what's best for everyone in Fort Bragg.

2354
03:49:12,030 --> 03:49:22,670
This study is also fully funded from the state water resources, controlled boards, water recycling program with no additional funds from the city's budget.

2355
03:49:26,520 --> 03:49:28,420
So here's something fascinating about water.

2356
03:49:28,660 --> 03:49:32,200
It's been cycling through earth since the beginning of time.

2357
03:49:32,340 --> 03:49:36,040
Nothing news ever created and nothing is ever truly destroyed.

2358
03:49:36,760 --> 03:49:43,380
And what we're doing with water reuse is simply speeding up nature's own purification process using proven technology

2359
03:49:43,380 --> 03:49:49,080
that's been successfully implemented in communities around the world for decades.

2360
03:49:50,140 --> 03:49:55,080
There are three types of water reuse that are being considered for Fort Bragg.

2361
03:49:55,660 --> 03:50:02,220
Non-potable recycled water, indirect potable reas, and direct potable reas,

2362
03:50:02,380 --> 03:50:06,520
and I'll dive a little deeper into what each of these are in the next few slides.

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03:50:07,770 --> 03:50:18,730
This first one is non-potable recycled water and this is treated water that meets strict state and federal standards for non-drinking water purposes.

2364
03:50:19,730 --> 03:50:26,510
Communities across the United States already use this type of water to irrigate barks, golf courses and other landscaping.

2365
03:50:27,210 --> 03:50:33,370
It's a reliable way to reduce the demand on the drinking water supply and is also known as recycled water.

2366
03:50:34,940 --> 03:50:40,040
And next we have indirect, potable reuse or IPR for sure.

2367
03:50:40,800 --> 03:50:44,920
Think of this as adding an extra step to nature's water cycle.

2368
03:50:45,160 --> 03:50:50,180
We take water that's already been highly treated and put it through additional treatment

2369
03:50:50,180 --> 03:50:52,980
steps called advanced purification processes.

2370
03:50:53,960 --> 03:50:58,060
Then water is stored in an environmental buffer, like a reservoir,

2371
03:50:58,540 --> 03:51:00,540
where it mixes with other water sources.

2372
03:51:01,320 --> 03:51:04,340
And then before it reaches your tap it goes through one final treatment

2373
03:51:04,340 --> 03:51:07,920
at the drinking water plant to ensure it meets all federal and state standards.

2374
03:51:10,610 --> 03:51:16,930
The third type of reuse is direct-putable reuse or DPR, and this is the newest option.

2375
03:51:17,910 --> 03:51:22,370
California recently established standards for implementing this type of treatment system.

2376
03:51:23,010 --> 03:51:27,890
DPR uses the most advanced treatment processes available to purify water

2377
03:51:27,890 --> 03:51:30,910
to drinking standards without an environmental buffer.

2378
03:51:30,910 --> 03:51:36,970
While the technology is cutting edge, the processes backed by rigorous monitoring and testing

2379
03:51:36,970 --> 03:51:39,350
requirements to ensure water safety.

2380
03:51:40,270 --> 03:51:47,210
Each of these options represents a proven safe approach to expanding the city's water supply

2381
03:51:47,210 --> 03:51:47,930
portfolio.

2382
03:51:49,030 --> 03:51:54,310
Through this feasibility study, we'll determine which option or a combination of the options

2383
03:51:54,310 --> 03:51:57,210
makes the most sense for Fort Brakes feature.

2384
03:52:02,840 --> 03:52:09,100
Let me share a little bit about where we are in this important process and then what lies ahead.

2385
03:52:09,960 --> 03:52:13,140
Again, think of this feasibility study like building a house.

2386
03:52:13,420 --> 03:52:19,000
We're currently in the foundation phase making sure that we have all the right information to build upon.

2387
03:52:19,620 --> 03:52:22,820
Right now we're in the crucial data gathering stage.

2388
03:52:23,400 --> 03:52:28,800
The project team is doing a thorough evaluation of the city's current water and wastewater systems,

2389
03:52:28,800 --> 03:52:41,440
reviewing technical documents and studies, and we're looking at how the water moves through the system with the treatment capabilities are and where improvements may be needed to develop water reuse options.

2390
03:52:42,940 --> 03:52:48,260
Once we have this foundation of information, we'll move into evaluating different alternatives.

2391
03:52:49,040 --> 03:52:58,280
We'll be looking at the various options that I mentioned, developing cost estimates and determining what makes the most sense for Fort Brag technically and financially.

2392
03:52:58,280 --> 03:53:07,180
We know community input is vital to this process so we'll be coming back to you with another presentation once we have more detailed information to share.

2393
03:53:07,820 --> 03:53:12,640
This will give you a chance to see what we've learned and provide your valuable feedback.

2394
03:53:13,360 --> 03:53:22,120
The entire study will wrap up in November of 2025 with a comprehensive report that will guide the city's water supply decisions moving forward.

2395
03:53:25,120 --> 03:53:29,740
And with that, I'm going to turn the rest of the presentation over to Skyler.

2396
03:53:33,780 --> 03:53:35,360
You're on mute Skyler.

2397
03:53:42,680 --> 03:53:44,280
Sorry about that.

2398
03:53:54,390 --> 03:53:56,110
Tell me to go ahead and take it.

2399
03:53:56,250 --> 03:53:57,250
No, I got it, and I'm sorry.

2400
03:53:57,710 --> 03:53:59,150
The night wasn't going up.

2401
03:53:59,250 --> 03:54:01,850
Your voice matters in shaping pork brides water future.

2402
03:54:02,110 --> 03:54:04,950
As we explore ways to diversify the city's water supply,

2403
03:54:05,390 --> 03:54:09,850
we want to ensure that every solution considered reflects the community's needs and values.

2404
03:54:09,850 --> 03:54:20,530
The city is not just building infrastructure, it's building a more resilient future and that's why we have created multiple pathways for you to stay informed and share your thoughts throughout this process.

2405
03:54:21,770 --> 03:54:25,070
We made it easy for you to stay connected with this important project.

2406
03:54:25,570 --> 03:54:30,390
The dedicated project website serves as your one stop resource for updates and information.

2407
03:54:33,690 --> 03:54:40,550
In fact, I encourage you to take out your phones and scan the QR code on the screen to share your thoughts today.

2408
03:54:41,110 --> 03:54:46,070
We'll continue to host presentations like this one to keep you informed and gather your feedback.

2409
03:54:46,810 --> 03:54:50,850
Our next workshop presentation will be about the alternatives we have developed.

2410
03:54:51,810 --> 03:54:55,850
And for those who prefer social media, we'll be posting project updates to Facebook,

2411
03:54:55,850 --> 03:55:01,410
Whether you prefer to take the survey, attend meetings, or engage online, we want to hear from you.

2412
03:55:01,510 --> 03:55:10,310
Your insights will help us develop water, supply solutions that truly serve court rags needs for generations to come.

2413
03:55:13,160 --> 03:55:15,920
And now, um, back to you, Kerry.

2414
03:55:16,860 --> 03:55:17,080
Okay.

2415
03:55:18,440 --> 03:55:22,360
We've covered a lot of ground today, and now I'd like to open the floor for your questions.

2416
03:55:22,360 --> 03:55:28,940
Your insights and concerns are valuable to us as we move forward with this important study before we

2417
03:55:29,840 --> 03:55:35,080
Begin the Q&A I want to remind everyone that you can scan the QR code to take our survey

2418
03:55:35,080 --> 03:55:36,900
Now please bookmark

2419
03:55:36,900 --> 03:55:43,660
The project website to stay updated on our progress whether you have questions now or think of them later

2420
03:55:43,660 --> 03:55:46,480
We want to maintain an open dialogue throughout the process

2421
03:55:46,480 --> 03:55:53,600
us. With that, I'll just wrap it up and open it up for any questions or discussion.

2422
03:56:46,130 --> 03:56:50,930
I just have one question and that's something that someone brought up to me and having

2423
03:56:50,930 --> 03:56:54,650
worked with a water board under familiar with these kind of projects.

2424
03:56:56,730 --> 03:56:58,750
Descent or is in your

2425
03:56:58,750 --> 03:57:06,630
planning are you looking at how much space is needed to put in a recycled plant?

2426
03:57:08,990 --> 03:57:15,830
Yes, that's a great question. Part of the evaluation of the alternatives will be

2427
03:57:15,830 --> 03:57:21,050
looking at what the footprint will be required for the different treatment technologies.

2428
03:57:21,950 --> 03:57:27,010
And then as part of that, there's also an environmental evaluation on whether that footprint

2429
03:57:27,010 --> 03:57:37,790
has any, any sort of impacts that would require any additional environmental work being done through

2430
03:57:37,790 --> 03:57:41,570
SQA or NEPA. So those are things that will be evaluated.

2431
03:57:43,470 --> 03:57:49,930
Hopefully not NEPA, but also there's a huge lab involved, right, laboratory.

2432
03:57:55,350 --> 03:57:59,390
I'm not quite sure I'm understanding your context to that.

2433
03:57:59,390 --> 03:58:03,130
And there's a, is there a large building involved for laboratory?

2434
03:58:05,010 --> 03:58:09,010
I don't think a laboratory is part of the treatment.

2435
03:58:09,910 --> 03:58:10,530
Yeah, I've got it.

2436
03:58:14,830 --> 03:58:15,710
Any other questions?

2437
03:58:17,030 --> 03:58:17,890
Yeah, I'm just curious.

2438
03:58:18,210 --> 03:58:20,710
Well, first of all, thanks for hanging in there with us tonight.

2439
03:58:20,890 --> 03:58:21,390
Appreciate it.

2440
03:58:24,230 --> 03:58:28,850
One of the things we've talked about, and I think the whole state of California

2441
03:58:28,850 --> 03:58:31,590
that's near the coast has sort of the explorer,

2442
03:58:32,190 --> 03:58:39,010
question themselves whether it's possible to capture the stormwater one-off that occurs

2443
03:58:39,010 --> 03:58:45,110
here and somehow bump it back up to the treatment plan or back into the river or

2444
03:58:45,650 --> 03:58:49,970
you know somehow capture that. Is that part of this feasibility study? Because I know

2445
03:58:49,970 --> 03:58:55,890
one of our council members has brought this up almost every time public works appeared to me.

2446
03:58:55,890 --> 03:58:57,310
So

2447
03:58:59,360 --> 03:59:01,260
that's a good question as well.

2448
03:59:02,460 --> 03:59:10,340
I don't think that's part of the different water supply alternatives that this study will cover.

2449
03:59:11,540 --> 03:59:24,060
The funding pool of money from the state requires that the project used recycled water or the wastewater as the source water for the project.

2450
03:59:24,060 --> 03:59:34,080
So although that's a very attractive sort of water supply development idea, it's not something

2451
03:59:34,080 --> 03:59:36,520
that's covered under the grant.

2452
03:59:39,340 --> 03:59:40,820
Thank you.

2453
03:59:40,820 --> 03:59:42,240
Any other questions?

2454
03:59:43,160 --> 03:59:46,540
If not, we will entertain public comment.

2455
03:59:47,260 --> 03:59:50,540
Despite the fact that I would actually like to be in bed right now.

2456
03:59:50,540 --> 03:59:53,700
I totally agree with what Lindy said.

2457
03:59:54,120 --> 03:59:59,980
However, I think if we are able to create a facility to treat our...

2458
04:00:00,980 --> 04:00:07,920
Treated wastewater, we probably could be able to pretty easily in our own pipe up the stormwater and use the same facility.

2459
04:00:08,820 --> 04:00:16,740
It might be when I'm looking at this, I'm glad that Scott asked if we were paying for this ourselves, because I wouldn't want us to use our money on this study.

2460
04:00:17,520 --> 04:00:25,240
It seems to play too broad. There is no scenario where we're going to reach our groundwater here. We don't get any of our water from groundwater.

2461
04:00:25,240 --> 04:00:31,500
like that's a total waste of time money to study that just because we don't use it.

2462
04:00:31,700 --> 04:00:37,400
I don't really see a lot of benefit for us doing water that's non-potable and just going

2463
04:00:37,400 --> 04:00:43,620
to the sports fields. We only have them from those schools that doesn't seem to be huge use.

2464
04:00:43,840 --> 04:00:49,580
However, if this will get a study that shows us and perhaps maybe we can focus it

2465
04:00:49,580 --> 04:00:53,980
are narrowly, just about using potable water for,

2466
04:00:53,980 --> 04:00:58,220
sorry, reusing our treated waste water for potable water.

2467
04:00:58,480 --> 04:01:00,160
That to me makes a lot of sense.

2468
04:01:00,880 --> 04:01:02,320
I think it's at least 500 gallons,

2469
04:01:02,660 --> 04:01:04,740
I have 100,000 gallons a day.

2470
04:01:05,020 --> 04:01:09,360
That's a huge water source compared to the other options we have.

2471
04:01:09,560 --> 04:01:10,940
So to me, that part is worthwhile

2472
04:01:10,940 --> 04:01:12,620
to rest of this scene silly.

2473
04:01:14,140 --> 04:01:15,900
But things we don't pay for it,

2474
04:01:15,960 --> 04:01:18,080
I guess there's no reason to worry about it.

2475
04:01:19,930 --> 04:01:24,760
Anybody else in the room? Madam clerk, anybody online?

2476
04:01:27,360 --> 04:01:32,140
This used the raise hand feature if you have a public comment for eight.

2477
04:01:37,940 --> 04:01:39,200
All right, colleagues, any further discussion?

2478
04:01:40,200 --> 04:01:41,980
There is no action requested.

2479
04:01:43,420 --> 04:01:44,740
So, thanks so much for your presentation.

2480
04:01:46,580 --> 04:01:47,040
Thank you.

2481
04:01:47,560 --> 04:01:48,140
Thank you, ladies.

2482
04:01:48,540 --> 04:01:49,160
All right, thank you.

2483
04:01:50,320 --> 04:01:51,620
Have a good night.

2484
04:01:52,280 --> 04:01:54,880
We'll take us to our last item of business item eight C.

2485
04:01:54,880 --> 04:02:01,680
receive general plan annual progress report 2024 and housing element annual progress report

2486
04:02:01,680 --> 04:02:08,320
who housing and community development and provide comments prior to submit all to housing and community

2487
04:02:08,320 --> 04:02:21,320
development. All right, last and least. Last but not least. So I'm not going to go through the entire

2488
04:02:21,320 --> 04:02:27,240
report. I'll just give you a little bit of context for it. I'm assuming that you all had a

2489
04:02:27,240 --> 04:02:35,540
chance to read it. But essentially, cities are mandated by the state to submit this report every

2490
04:02:35,540 --> 04:02:43,300
year and it gets admitted to OPR, which is the Office of Planning and Research and HCD Department

2491
04:02:43,300 --> 04:02:50,380
of Housing and Community Development. This is the report for the 2024 calendar year and

2492
04:02:50,380 --> 04:02:57,420
on the first, which is why we're here so late tonight, because part of the requirement is that council

2493
04:02:59,520 --> 04:03:07,900
review and accept the report before we submit it to HCD and OPR. This report first went to

2494
04:03:07,900 --> 04:03:14,560
planning commission on March 12, weeks ago and after that meeting we made a couple little adjustments

2495
04:03:14,560 --> 04:03:22,540
to the report based on some minor monthly errors that we found in the course of that meeting.

2496
04:03:25,340 --> 04:03:30,140
And certainly there's opportunity for further edits before we say we have a week.

2497
04:03:31,000 --> 04:03:35,200
So if you do have some things that you want to add or strike, that's that's fine.

2498
04:03:36,840 --> 04:03:42,200
There's two components to this report. The annual progress report is mostly narrative

2499
04:03:42,200 --> 04:03:44,900
in its organized by the general plan elements.

2500
04:03:46,460 --> 04:03:48,460
So you have the safety element, the noise element,

2501
04:03:48,660 --> 04:03:50,680
the housing element, blabberal orders,

2502
04:03:50,880 --> 04:03:52,200
a bunch of those.

2503
04:03:54,640 --> 04:03:57,780
And for each element you just, we've just gone through

2504
04:03:57,780 --> 04:04:02,720
and kind of elicit a few of the things that the city

2505
04:04:02,720 --> 04:04:05,880
is accomplished in carrying out those policies

2506
04:04:05,880 --> 04:04:07,800
from our general plan elements.

2507
04:04:10,640 --> 04:04:16,840
And I think it's kind of important to note that the intention is not to kind of

2508
04:04:17,340 --> 04:04:21,580
kind of go raise every single thing that we've done 24 or just hitting the highlights.

2509
04:04:22,180 --> 04:04:27,820
So if there's something in there that you don't see it's fine unless it's something that

2510
04:04:28,780 --> 04:04:32,860
we miss that's pretty important and you want to repeat happily do that.

2511
04:04:34,360 --> 04:04:46,860
So this report begins with a housing element since that is considered kind of the priority for the state and also it's

2512
04:04:46,860 --> 04:04:55,480
PhDD. So the bigger focus on our housing initiatives and things that we

2513
04:04:55,480 --> 04:05:01,900
accomplished or early started in 2024, one of them being the housing

2514
04:05:01,900 --> 04:05:04,560
development that you approve tonight.

2515
04:05:07,940 --> 04:05:10,200
It also gives a few

2516
04:05:11,580 --> 04:05:26,920
And then the second component is the spreadsheet that kind of tracks everything from start to finish, most of the stats that we provide to planning commission, we don't get here with them very much, but at the planning commission level,

2517
04:05:26,920 --> 04:05:34,720
mostly incorporate what we did, you know, like we approve this many permits.

2518
04:05:35,700 --> 04:05:45,220
This report is actually kind of pulled because it looks attracts a permit from entitlement through the permitting through

2519
04:05:46,500 --> 04:05:51,100
final occupancy. So it starts from the application all the way to the end.

2520
04:05:51,380 --> 04:05:55,520
And there's really no other report that I know that we do that does that.

2521
04:05:55,520 --> 04:05:58,200
Even though we're forced to do this report,

2522
04:05:58,580 --> 04:06:00,140
I think it's kind of handy in that sense

2523
04:06:00,140 --> 04:06:02,120
if you're interested in that kind of

2524
04:06:02,120 --> 04:06:04,340
nitty-gritty-ditty-ditty-gritty data.

2525
04:06:05,940 --> 04:06:08,960
We cooperated, Maria Flynn, and I cooperated on this,

2526
04:06:08,980 --> 04:06:12,000
and she actually did the spread key portion.

2527
04:06:12,640 --> 04:06:14,040
So if you have questions about that,

2528
04:06:14,280 --> 04:06:17,100
then we'll come up and try to answer those.

2529
04:06:19,460 --> 04:06:21,020
And that's all from me,

2530
04:06:21,180 --> 04:06:23,620
unless you have questions or discussion, thanks.

2531
04:06:26,250 --> 04:06:30,930
colleagues any question, but they're a plan update or a housing element.

2532
04:06:33,100 --> 04:06:40,260
So it's a great way to see things that have been accomplished to review things kind of nice in the context of our recent budget meeting.

2533
04:06:40,660 --> 04:06:42,600
Just seeing things that have been happening.

2534
04:06:44,500 --> 04:06:48,640
And yeah, housing element as well.

2535
04:06:48,640 --> 04:06:55,460
I'm glad it's required that you have to refresh just because otherwise, these things just

2536
04:06:55,460 --> 04:07:02,480
happen and we have no idea what's going on. So we should, uh, when we look back, see what we've

2537
04:07:02,480 --> 04:07:04,480
done. Thank you.

2538
04:07:06,830 --> 04:07:10,330
There. No. Yeah. Thanks for the report. If there are no other questions, I'll

2539
04:07:10,330 --> 04:07:16,680
invite public comment. Anyone in the room? No. Madam, anybody online?

2540
04:07:18,380 --> 04:07:26,560
Please use the raise hand feature for public comment on item 8C and there are no hands.

2541
04:07:27,540 --> 04:07:29,500
All right then let's bring it back to council.

2542
04:07:31,840 --> 04:07:33,020
Do we really have no action?

2543
04:07:33,060 --> 04:07:36,640
Are there any items that we would like to include that we're not seeing?

2544
04:07:36,960 --> 04:07:45,160
No, I just want to point out I think somewhere in here it said in 2024 there were 145 permit applications

2545
04:07:45,920 --> 04:07:50,220
or a two person department. Keep that in mind.

2546
04:07:52,480 --> 04:07:54,680
Yes, I sincerely hope that we don't

2547
04:07:56,200 --> 04:08:03,060
allow these new apartments which is approved to go to condos. I don't know how we can prevent that.

2548
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Well, with that, I will adjourn. Thanks so much. Thanks to all of you for sticking

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out, see me.