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>> To our new setting yes.

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department for allowing us to

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conduct our meetings are

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temporarily. And of course,

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want to thank city staff for

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building this beautiful dais,

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we'll remain probably a

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permanent fixture going

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forward. You after we builder

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new City Hall. Pretty nice

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right? Anyway. Let us begin

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the meeting. We're going to

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start with our our joint

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workshop with the Budget

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Advisory Board MR. Clerk,

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would you please call the Roll

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the commission Commissioner

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Herbst as commissioner,

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Glassman here, Commissioner

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Beasley here, vice mayor sort

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hear front office and the

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chair of the Budget Advisory

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Board want to call the role of

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your committee.

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We have a

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quorum break. City manager.

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>> Please proceed.

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>> Great. Thank you, mayor. So

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we're going to start with the

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presentation from staff with

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Laura Reis. And just before we

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get started, I just want to

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acknowledge the work of the

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budget advisory board and

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Chair Brown. You'll see in the

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work program in the backup.

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particular has put Done a

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tremendous amount of work this

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year to get us to where we are

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now. And we are just grateful

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for their support.

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>> Thank Good afternoon, Mayor

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Vice mayor commissioners Laura

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Rees. Hope you enjoyed your

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summer. We're very excited to

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be back with you as you now we

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have a regular cadence. Of the

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Budget Advisory board meeting

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with the City Commission

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happens 3 times a year. This

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is that 3rd of 3 meetings that

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they have at this point. The

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city the city commission is

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set the maximum millage rates

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and the budget advisory board

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spent the summer Wayne and on

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the budget and making

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recommendations at their last

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meeting. So before we turn it

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over to the charity, get going

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and we have the tentative

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budget presentation so before

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we turn it over to the chair

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to share their presentation

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and their recommendations

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staff would like go over some.

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Summary information of changes

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that happened between when we

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met with you last time in JUNE

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at the Joint Workshop and this

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meeting because we got new

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taxable values and a few

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things changed over the

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summer. So we want to make

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sure that we're all on the

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same page. The Budget Advisory

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board has already received

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this information at their JULY

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meeting. So I'll quickly go

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through it just to make sure

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we're all aligned where we're

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starting. So today I'll be

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going over taxable value

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growth tax bill comparison of

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the operating budget by fun.

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general fund a little bit

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more. That's really where we

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focus our time and in JUNE

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when we had our joint meeting

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with you, we'll talk about

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where the money comes from

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where it goes. Some key

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changes since the proposed

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budget. And the General Fund

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2027 tentative Ft. Snapshot

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will share with you the

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projected budget. And the

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capital improvement plan. Some

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strategic budgeting, balancing

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strategies that we implemented

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since we met in JUNE and which

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were part of the proposed

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budget that was shared with

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the commission at your JULY

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meeting and then some key

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takeaways for the budget. So

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the first item is the change

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that we got between JUNE and

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JULY. So our proposed budget

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was based upon that taxable

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values as of JUNE first, which

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we got from the property

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appraiser. The city is

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required to use the JULY first

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values that we've received

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from the property appraiser as

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part of the adopted budget

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that we bring forward at the 2

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public hearings in SEPTEMBER.

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So the good news is that when

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at so in JUNE we shared 67.3

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billion dollars and that has

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now and increased which will

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result in 700 and 56 $1000 in

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additional revenue to the

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general fund. One thing that's

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kind of cool to know, isn't

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that new construction increase

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this year is the highest it's

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been in. But over 5 years. So

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that's a good indicator of the

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economy in Fort Lauderdale.

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When you say this year 2025.

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what we use. So it's as of

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JUNE as of JANUARY. 1st. So it

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would reflect any growth that

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happened the year before

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JANUARY. 1st. And so it grew

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by 1.0, 7, 5, billion dollars.

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Okay. Thank you. Welcome. And

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so we shared with the u we

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shared with you this tax bill

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comparison for illustrative

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purposes in JUNE sharing. And

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again, that really hasn't

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changed but just as a

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reminder, tax bills will are a

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term notices will be going out

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to residents within the next

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week. And so those start

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seeing their trim notices. A

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part of that is the city's tax

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rate in the city's

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assessments. So for a $640,000

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taxable value. The amount that

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comes to the city on the tax

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bill In 2026. Was $3,493. The

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increases that are being

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proposed on the tax bill this

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year, millage rate stays the

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same. But because there's

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that. Cpi cap or the cpi

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growth said it value that will

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go up by 2.7% this year. $69

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voter approved. That goes down

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because the taxable value went

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up and that's the calculation

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of. But what it takes to make

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that payment. So that'll go

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down my for approximately $5.

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scheduled to increased by $75

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or 20% to support the new debt

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that will be issuing and buyer

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assessment that full cost of

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service true-up was $41 or

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10.2% increase. So the total

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increase for the city's

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portion of the bell will be

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$180 or 5.2% So the total

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operating budget for the city,

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the tentative operating budget

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is 1.3 billion dollars. The

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general fund is the largest

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portion of that bill are of

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that budget at 561. Million

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dollars or 43%. And the second

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largest is water, sewer and

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central regional wastewater

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system at 310 million dollars.

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Approximately 50% of our

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revenue comes from property

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taxes or 47.6% And that the

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rest come from fire assessment

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fees, utility taxes and other

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revenues to support the

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general fund. Share every year

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that this is a pretty good

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place to be where we have a

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diversified revenue sources so

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we think this will position us

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well, even if property tax

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reform occurs, I'm like some

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municipalities that Even more

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reliant on property taxes. And

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police and fire drive the

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largest portion of the general

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fund budget over 60%. Followed

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by parks and recreation,

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Functions that are funded

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through the general Fund.

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There are some key changes

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that we wanted to highlight

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for. You sense. The proposed

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budget went to the city

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Commission on at the beginning

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of JULY. He revenue changes

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are the increase in ad valorem

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that we spoke about 756,000 in

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additional revenues. We are

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proposing to some costs and

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the city attorney's office,

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there are 2 positions that are

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being recommended to be funded

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in the city attorney's office

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through an offset were

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reduction and the risk

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management charges for

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external counsel. So that will

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come in as a revenue to the

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general fund for a service

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charge and will be used to

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support those and then another

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item is will manners has

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requested additional position

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to be dedicated to the fire

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rescue contract with them. So

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that's $194,000 to support one

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new ft. And so that's a class

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Nate. Both of those are cost

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neutral proposals to the

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general fund. Additional

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expenditures are increased

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transfer to the Capital

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Improvement $450,000. We

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talked about the city attorney

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and paralegal position that

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will help to offset some

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external expenses related to

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auto liability in general

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liability cases. The fire

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safety captain position for

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manners? Additional

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contractual services and

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operating expenses and parks

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and recreation to offset some

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positions that were reduced in

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that area. And increase in tax

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collector payment related to

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the true-up in the fire

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assessment and increase in

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transfer that this based upon

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those JULY first values. So

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those the changes that will

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you'll see when you vote on

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the budget in SEPTEMBER, if

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anything ounces added will add

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that to change list that we

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bring forward. East nap shot

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remains the same as what we

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shared in JULY with the

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exception of the 3 positions

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we just shared. And so then

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that increase in the general

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fund is and that 2 new

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positions. And again, 3 of

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those are fully supported

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reductions and other expenses

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or revenue from what manners?

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review of the budget. I

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believe he'll speak more about

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our fund balance. We've spent

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some time with them over the

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summer. So I'll leave that to

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him by our estimate. Is that

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9.4 million dollars about our

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25% target is available and

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the General Fund Fund balance.

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And 4 cip. This also really

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remains largely unchanged

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since or JULY. Meeting. 8.1

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million dollars and seawalls

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we have funding for sidewalks

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streets. 5 million dollars is

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kind of a key number for the

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bond parts bond. The gaps. So

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if there's shortages in the

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park's pond program, we can

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turn to those funds to help to

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fill the gaps funding repair

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maintenance for city

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facilities remains in the

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budget and traffic mobility

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and bike lane improvements. So

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when we shared this general

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fund forecast with you in

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JUNE. We share that there was

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8.9 million dollar projected

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deficit and the general fund

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due to some new expenses that

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we're coming online, including

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the new City hall, including

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some new fire arson fire

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grants that we're going to be

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expiring. But we spent some

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time in the month of JUNE.

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Developing strategies to fill

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those gaps. And those were

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incorporated in the proposed

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budget ahead of the decision

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related to city Hall. And so

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here are some key things that

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were implemented. Revenue

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enhancements for a fire

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ambulance, transport fees,

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interest earnings. We reduced

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6 vacant positions in the

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general fund and payroll

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attrition was budgeted in

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areas with a history of

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vacancies. All of those were

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incorporated in the

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preliminary budget. In the

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proposed budget. We added some

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additional strategies, a shift

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to internal pension bomb

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payment. 2.1 million dollars,

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2 million dollars for

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interests in General Capital

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projects. Fund. We eliminated

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the subsidy for health. Health

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insurance, administrative

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costs, reduce fleet

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replacement charge. So we have

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to extend the life of those

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vehicles or rely upon interest

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in those funds were reducing

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the fire rescue department

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overtime budget. As we briefly

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mentioned and a reduction for

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grant writing services. So the

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total balancing strategies

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implemented. We're 10.9

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million dollars in that 2027

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budget. And that was really to

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prepare us for 2028. So the

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new model shows that we're

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balanced essentially for 2028.

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We started a neutral position

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heading into that year as

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well. And so our key takeaways

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for the 2027 tentative budget

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is it addresses the city

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commission's priorities. We

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spent a lot of time

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identifying city manager's

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message. The key ways where

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each of your priorities are

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funded. It's structurally

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balanced accelerates the

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completion of he capital

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projects. It maintains a

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healthy balance and prepares

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the city for the future. Any

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questions? Okay. Technically a

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presentation that completes my

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presentation. Okay. Is anyone

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from the Bush advisory board

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want to add to this

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presentation or comment at

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this point?

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>> They have wait till. You

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have you have your

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presentation, ok? Very good.

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Anyone from the commission

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have any questions of war? At

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this point? Thank Az job. I

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see you. You did your made a

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very serious attempt to reduce

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our expenditures by almost

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11 million dollars. So that's

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that's great. And I know a lot

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of work went behind all Want

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to thank you and the entire

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staff. The team that works for

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the city and in making this

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happen. So thank you so much.

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>> Thank you. Mayor and

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commission and thing said the

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manager, assistant city

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manager and the whole team. We

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appreciate it. Great. This is

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city manager.

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>> If there's no further

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questions for our staff will

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turn that over to a chair.

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Brown for the Budget Advisory

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Board.

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>> Welcome Instrumental on

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building the diocese and it

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looks fantastic. Can thank

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you. So ones will get to the

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slide deck First of all, I'd

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like to opening with the

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Budget advisory board members

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this past year. They've spent

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a tremendous amount of time

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working with key identified

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staff from omb on special

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projects, too, to look at, you

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know, like affordability

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operations in each one of us

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took a section on like revenue

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enhancement area son,

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everything. So we presented

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that at our last workshop. So

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today we're going to focus on

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the future and kind of set the

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stage to help you in JANUARY.

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When you have your next works

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for the Priority Workshop. As

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a commission. And also I'd be

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remorse of the vice chair. Let

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the commission everyone know.

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It's her birthday today. Happy

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listen. Happy birthday.

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>> What a way to spend

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>> so during our summer

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meetings, we focus a lot

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working with staff on the the

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physical year Fy 27 budget,

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which was just proposed budget

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I don't budget presented to

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you earlier and then we took a

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look at the city hall. Talked

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about property tax reform. If

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that were to pass, certainly

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met with strategic

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communications. They came and

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did their presentation on the

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public outreach of that.

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Referendum and then also the

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balancing act, which is online

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and trying to engage the

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general public. We come here

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before you as a board to

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endorse the Fy 2027 budget as

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presented by staff by

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unanimous vote from our last

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meeting. Present is real

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estate gets a responsible

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budget that meets all the

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city's current Sneads and it's

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also balanced as required to

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for 2027 with priorities for

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public safety and supporting

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the initial costs that general

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fund costs for the new city

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hall. I believe it's

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11 million, 8 next year in

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this budget. I'm not mistaken.

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And then it includes

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reductions that was addressed

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to concerns for 2028 as staff

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presented. As I mentioned,

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we're looking as a citizens

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advisory board to help you and

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the commission to meet the

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goals and your priorities and

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what we feel. The residents

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and taxpayers. Are most

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concerned about. And we've

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identified 5 key areas that we

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feel we're all have to roll up

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her sleeves as we move forward

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for 2028. That's

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affordability. The millage

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rate in the fees. Do we keep

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continue to keep them the

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same? Same? Or will there have

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to be increases property? Tax

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reform comes in development,

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slows down. We're talk about

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development. We also are

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concerned about keeping the

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business a business friendly

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environment. Any time you

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raise business taxes or fees

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and permits. It's a double

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edged sword. What what are

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those developers? One of those

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business landlords to they

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raise the price back on their

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tenants its sort in essence is

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an increase in the rents and

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that has some effect. Same

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with affordability. When you

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have more cost involved, then

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the landlord will always raise

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the prices on their tenants

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and the big else in the room.

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This property tax reform. We

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won't know till like we said

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until NOVEMBER. How that's

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going to play out. But we do

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have concerns. So here's what

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we do know. Affordability,

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approximately somewhere It

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says 49, there are some 46

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49%. The average income

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household income are below the

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thresholds of basic cost of

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living poverty standard here

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in Broward County. The housing

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costs and Fort Lauderdale, the

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medium, a cause for a home now

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to this was in 2025. Is

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530,000. And the fair market

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rent for a bedroom 2025. Is

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$1900. The impacts of those

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have is is is increasingly

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challenging for young young

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people, Move in here.

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Specially first-time home

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buyers and make a living in

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Fort Lauderdale, achievable

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and affordable. Well, I know

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we have housing affordability

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board that works on citian

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certain issues. We have to

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keep in mind any impacts that

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we recommend to this

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commission will have an effect

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on affordability. Some

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businesses are having trouble

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finding the availability of

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work workers and we at and

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we'd like to keep our

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workforce here in our own city

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because are spending their tax

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dollars. In Fort Lauderdale's

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had the opportunity strengthen

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its appeal to promote Fort

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Lauderdale and it's a place to

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live in a vibrant community.

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As we now the current millage

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rates been maintained. Now,

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this budgets approved for 20

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years. And and the other

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cities have seen a substantial

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increases communities around

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cities around Fort Lauderdale

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the military have originally

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trade has increased 36% over

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that time period. And we have

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those seeing Costa fees as

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section the fire assessments

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feet of storm water, utility

576
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rates. And the impact. All

577
00:21:04,269 --> 00:21:08,106
this has is. You know it. It

578
00:21:08,106 --> 00:21:10,750
affects a holistic preparation

579
00:21:10,750 --> 00:21:10,643
of future budgets and

580
00:21:10,643 --> 00:21:11,310
proactive addresses,

581
00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:13,310
affordability challenges we

582
00:21:16,248 --> 00:21:17,183
must take into concern. New

583
00:21:17,183 --> 00:21:19,452
construction as we just

584
00:21:19,452 --> 00:21:22,788
discussed we had a good year

585
00:21:22,788 --> 00:21:23,489
with new growth coming online.

586
00:21:23,489 --> 00:21:26,489
We had believe this, Elaine.

587
00:21:26,492 --> 00:21:27,726
They came on the tax rolls

588
00:21:27,726 --> 00:21:28,728
this year. That was 2

589
00:21:28,728 --> 00:21:29,428
high-rise condo 30 story

590
00:21:29,428 --> 00:21:31,264
buildings down on the beach.

591
00:21:31,264 --> 00:21:34,264
And I think Flagler Village

592
00:21:36,435 --> 00:21:39,272
had a couple projects. And

593
00:21:39,272 --> 00:21:41,540
there's a couple more still.

594
00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:44,477
Well for aging. That village

595
00:21:44,477 --> 00:21:45,211
will. Yeah a is is going to be

596
00:21:45,211 --> 00:21:47,611
an intense development project

597
00:21:48,448 --> 00:21:49,415
that's going to has

598
00:21:49,415 --> 00:21:50,850
significantly to the tax rules

599
00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:51,584
tournament when when the year

600
00:21:51,584 --> 00:21:54,320
the year which to finally gets

601
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,320
his co.

602
00:21:56,923 --> 00:21:57,590
>> Corrected that. And that's

603
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:58,191
kind of leads me what we're

604
00:21:58,191 --> 00:22:00,191
concerned about because

605
00:22:00,193 --> 00:22:02,595
currently worse and a slow

606
00:22:02,595 --> 00:22:03,696
down the development market

607
00:22:03,696 --> 00:22:05,698
due to high construction costs

608
00:22:05,698 --> 00:22:07,533
in the interest rates. Just

609
00:22:07,533 --> 00:22:10,403
give you an example. I'm sure

610
00:22:10,403 --> 00:22:11,705
you're aware that planning and

611
00:22:11,705 --> 00:22:14,705
zoning typically on a good

612
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:18,178
month. We'll have. 3 to 5.

613
00:22:18,178 --> 00:22:20,178
Zoning development projects

614
00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:22,282
come before them month of

615
00:22:22,282 --> 00:22:22,916
JUNE. They had one month of

616
00:22:22,916 --> 00:22:25,916
JULY. They had 2 on their

617
00:22:27,554 --> 00:22:28,221
agenda. Month. AUGUST 0. So

618
00:22:28,221 --> 00:22:31,221
what's that tell you? We're

619
00:22:31,458 --> 00:22:32,325
seeing a slowdown, but

620
00:22:32,325 --> 00:22:32,926
everything is sent to go. We

621
00:22:32,926 --> 00:22:33,627
understand that in the

622
00:22:33,627 --> 00:22:36,496
construction where we have to

623
00:22:36,496 --> 00:22:37,197
take that in into

624
00:22:37,197 --> 00:22:40,167
consideration as we do future

625
00:22:40,167 --> 00:22:43,167
planning for budgets. So but

626
00:22:43,470 --> 00:22:44,204
we also have to be cognizant

627
00:22:44,204 --> 00:22:47,341
when we have that downturn and

628
00:22:47,341 --> 00:22:47,975
we don't see those 7 and a

629
00:22:47,975 --> 00:22:50,375
half percent increases in

630
00:22:50,844 --> 00:22:53,147
assessed value. If if it were

631
00:22:53,147 --> 00:22:56,747
to drop below 5% in any given

632
00:22:57,752 --> 00:22:59,519
one year. Historically,

633
00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:02,519
looking at a 5% increase will

634
00:23:03,691 --> 00:23:05,359
be eaten up just in salaries

635
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,359
and benefits of our workforce.

636
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,631
Fort Lauderdale. That, you

637
00:23:10,631 --> 00:23:11,432
know, that's what giving

638
00:23:11,432 --> 00:23:12,990
future races and pay the

639
00:23:12,990 --> 00:23:14,499
health insurance costs and

640
00:23:15,369 --> 00:23:16,300
everything else. So that

641
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:18,300
that's pretty staggering

642
00:23:19,507 --> 00:23:21,907
number 5%. Automatically up in

643
00:23:24,412 --> 00:23:25,112
personnel costs benefits. As I

644
00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:27,415
mentioned earlier, keeping a

645
00:23:27,415 --> 00:23:29,415
business friendly environment.

646
00:23:29,584 --> 00:23:32,860
We get increase the property

647
00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:35,860
or business tax by 5%. And

648
00:23:36,524 --> 00:23:37,225
that made it. That's within

649
00:23:37,225 --> 00:23:40,225
the Florida statute and that

650
00:23:42,130 --> 00:23:43,131
the every year can go up 5. As

651
00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:43,932
as I mentioned, has a double

652
00:23:43,932 --> 00:23:46,201
edged sword there. When you do

653
00:23:46,201 --> 00:23:48,136
that and we have to take that.

654
00:23:48,136 --> 00:23:48,803
So as we look at future

655
00:23:48,803 --> 00:23:51,773
budgets, we can't just say,

656
00:23:51,773 --> 00:23:52,874
ok, we go out here and raise.

657
00:23:52,874 --> 00:23:55,874
Start raising the permit fees

658
00:23:58,580 --> 00:23:59,648
and business taxes and things.

659
00:23:59,648 --> 00:24:00,348
Without fully taking in

660
00:24:00,348 --> 00:24:02,748
consideration. The impacts of

661
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,210
those will have. And to our

662
00:24:06,210 --> 00:24:09,621
next big one property tax. We

663
00:24:09,758 --> 00:24:10,492
all know what's being proposed

664
00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:12,892
taken Homestead up from 50,000

665
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,496
next year, too 150,000 with

666
00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:19,434
2028. Going to to 50 or to

667
00:24:19,434 --> 00:24:20,936
pass 5 year residents,

668
00:24:20,936 --> 00:24:21,637
five-year residency. If you

669
00:24:21,637 --> 00:24:23,500
move here, you can't will be

670
00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:26,542
able to home set for 5 years

671
00:24:26,542 --> 00:24:27,309
after the and of the year. And

672
00:24:27,309 --> 00:24:29,311
then that non homestead

673
00:24:29,311 --> 00:24:31,847
properties will no longer be

674
00:24:31,847 --> 00:24:34,247
taxed. Maximum 10% drops to 5.

675
00:24:35,317 --> 00:24:36,952
So we know it. 2028, if this

676
00:24:36,952 --> 00:24:39,952
were to pass 17 Million. We

677
00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:46,495
know. 2029 and a production of

678
00:24:46,495 --> 00:24:47,229
27.3 million. So is off off to

679
00:24:47,229 --> 00:24:49,498
offset all this. We have to

680
00:24:49,498 --> 00:24:50,399
come up with some strategic

681
00:24:50,399 --> 00:24:52,301
productions and or increase

682
00:24:52,301 --> 00:24:53,569
the millage rate. It's pretty

683
00:24:53,569 --> 00:24:54,270
simple. We're not advocating

684
00:24:54,270 --> 00:24:56,305
an increase in mileage rates

685
00:24:56,305 --> 00:24:58,975
to do it, but we're going to

686
00:24:58,975 --> 00:24:59,675
make tough decisions as a

687
00:24:59,675 --> 00:25:02,345
community and as a commission

688
00:25:02,345 --> 00:25:05,345
and has a visor report.

689
00:25:05,881 --> 00:25:06,949
Doesn't mean we start cutting.

690
00:25:06,949 --> 00:25:10,549
Services or does it mean we

691
00:25:11,654 --> 00:25:12,522
start the funding non for

692
00:25:12,522 --> 00:25:15,522
profits. Next year. You have

693
00:25:17,494 --> 00:25:18,528
to take a look at that. Cra.

694
00:25:18,528 --> 00:25:20,530
It was a two-year proposal,

695
00:25:20,530 --> 00:25:23,133
come back and look at it being

696
00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:24,801
funded at 50%. Maybe a choice

697
00:25:24,801 --> 00:25:28,138
has to be made. You don't fund

698
00:25:28,138 --> 00:25:28,938
it for the next 2 years. A 50

699
00:25:28,938 --> 00:25:30,600
person that 50%. Those are

700
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,708
some of the things not that

701
00:25:31,708 --> 00:25:33,376
we're saying this has to be

702
00:25:33,376 --> 00:25:34,770
done, but we're going to have

703
00:25:34,770 --> 00:25:37,677
to really, really take a hard

704
00:25:37,781 --> 00:25:38,449
look at the hard dive. To

705
00:25:38,449 --> 00:25:41,151
balance a budget next year.

706
00:25:41,151 --> 00:25:43,551
Property tax reform passes.

707
00:25:45,422 --> 00:25:46,223
And that's why we're setting.

708
00:25:46,223 --> 00:25:47,424
As I mentioned stage as we

709
00:25:47,424 --> 00:25:51,240
move to the were your workshop

710
00:25:51,462 --> 00:25:52,129
in JANUARY on what the

711
00:25:52,129 --> 00:25:52,829
priorities are going to be.

712
00:25:52,829 --> 00:25:55,299
And that's going a lot of the

713
00:25:55,299 --> 00:25:58,299
party's going to be driven.

714
00:25:58,502 --> 00:25:59,636
What happens? Property tax

715
00:25:59,636 --> 00:26:00,270
reform keeping in mind public

716
00:26:00,270 --> 00:26:02,670
safety is always priority

717
00:26:05,943 --> 00:26:06,677
number And that concludes my

718
00:26:06,677 --> 00:26:09,770
presentation. Okay. Great. Any

719
00:26:09,947 --> 00:26:10,614
questions of MR. Brown, do

720
00:26:10,614 --> 00:26:13,384
have a question. Please go

721
00:26:13,384 --> 00:26:14,850
ahead us on the on moving

722
00:26:14,850 --> 00:26:17,850
forward and looking at those

723
00:26:17,822 --> 00:26:18,422
areas we MAY need to reduce.

724
00:26:18,422 --> 00:26:20,224
He says services. What

725
00:26:20,224 --> 00:26:22,224
services are you?

726
00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:26,997
>> Suggesting that we reduced?

727
00:26:26,997 --> 00:26:27,698
>> Maybe the programs at the

728
00:26:27,698 --> 00:26:31,298
parks offer might have to be

729
00:26:33,137 --> 00:26:35,390
reduced. Services that we do

730
00:26:35,390 --> 00:26:37,809
for for the special events for

731
00:26:37,809 --> 00:26:39,343
district certain The parades,

732
00:26:39,343 --> 00:26:40,645
you know, those who carry a

733
00:26:40,645 --> 00:26:41,312
big impact on services city

734
00:26:41,312 --> 00:26:43,614
services and the cost of

735
00:26:43,614 --> 00:26:46,614
those. So I'm we're not

736
00:26:48,987 --> 00:26:51,387
saying. We're cutting anything

737
00:26:52,557 --> 00:26:53,224
at this point, but we think.

738
00:26:53,224 --> 00:26:54,659
Collaboratively we have to

739
00:26:54,659 --> 00:26:56,895
also down and figure out what

740
00:26:56,895 --> 00:27:00,495
is the best model that works

741
00:27:00,865 --> 00:27:01,733
best. And we do know police

742
00:27:01,733 --> 00:27:04,133
overtime. You'll hear about

743
00:27:04,703 --> 00:27:06,538
following this presentation is

744
00:27:06,538 --> 00:27:09,538
high fires reduce theirs. But

745
00:27:10,142 --> 00:27:10,809
one of the reasons is. Police

746
00:27:10,809 --> 00:27:13,209
overtime. We're seeing more

747
00:27:15,347 --> 00:27:16,448
protest. So requires public

748
00:27:16,448 --> 00:27:18,116
safety support than we've ever

749
00:27:18,116 --> 00:27:20,285
seen in the past in our

750
00:27:20,285 --> 00:27:21,186
community. So that drives up

751
00:27:21,186 --> 00:27:22,320
overtime costs. You can't cut

752
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,922
those types of services

753
00:27:22,922 --> 00:27:25,322
because those are still

754
00:27:26,326 --> 00:27:28,726
required. For for certain

755
00:27:28,927 --> 00:27:30,862
types of security measures. So

756
00:27:30,862 --> 00:27:32,898
I think at this point I know

757
00:27:32,898 --> 00:27:35,898
the the previous city manager

758
00:27:36,101 --> 00:27:37,336
presented a list some

759
00:27:37,336 --> 00:27:39,736
strategic folk thoughts her

760
00:27:40,139 --> 00:27:40,773
and the staff at the time that

761
00:27:40,773 --> 00:27:41,440
maybe if property pay tax

762
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,541
where the past we'd have to

763
00:27:42,541 --> 00:27:46,741
take a look at. But I think

764
00:27:47,446 --> 00:27:48,800
overall. I don't want I don't

765
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,882
want to protect to what's

766
00:27:49,882 --> 00:27:52,882
going to happen. But just

767
00:27:52,985 --> 00:27:54,420
hearing and seeing it really

768
00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:56,820
people don't understand the

769
00:27:59,580 --> 00:27:59,726
impact if really happens. And

770
00:27:59,726 --> 00:28:00,392
hopefully, you know, we're

771
00:28:00,392 --> 00:28:02,127
trying to educate strategic

772
00:28:02,127 --> 00:28:03,496
communications and a great

773
00:28:03,496 --> 00:28:05,531
job, but we just got to keep

774
00:28:05,531 --> 00:28:07,199
pushing that message out. One

775
00:28:07,199 --> 00:28:08,334
voters will decide. And I

776
00:28:08,334 --> 00:28:10,734
think that's the message

777
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:14,300
voters are hearing great. Tax

778
00:28:14,507 --> 00:28:16,442
bills will go down. That might

779
00:28:16,442 --> 00:28:19,442
on the side. But services

780
00:28:19,645 --> 00:28:20,346
still have to be. Provided if

781
00:28:20,346 --> 00:28:22,749
they want that same level of

782
00:28:22,749 --> 00:28:24,217
service.

783
00:28:24,217 --> 00:28:26,185
>> And that was the reason I

784
00:28:26,185 --> 00:28:26,853
was asking me, say service.

785
00:28:26,853 --> 00:28:28,855
That's broad statement. So

786
00:28:28,855 --> 00:28:29,523
that's why I asked what where

787
00:28:29,523 --> 00:28:32,392
are you saying the services

788
00:28:32,392 --> 00:28:34,360
that would be? Suggested maybe

789
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,329
or what we need to look at

790
00:28:36,329 --> 00:28:37,931
specifically. All right. That

791
00:28:37,931 --> 00:28:38,631
was the reason for my

792
00:28:38,631 --> 00:28:41,670
question, right? And at this

793
00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:41,802
point, we we really don't.

794
00:28:41,802 --> 00:28:44,802
>> Have a looked at particular

795
00:28:46,206 --> 00:28:49,206
yet. And hopefully once we

796
00:28:49,976 --> 00:28:51,978
have clear guidance from your

797
00:28:51,978 --> 00:28:52,646
workshop in JANUARY, what the

798
00:28:52,646 --> 00:28:53,646
priorities will be. I think

799
00:28:53,646 --> 00:28:56,646
we're going to clear guidance

800
00:28:58,919 --> 00:28:59,586
NOVEMBER. We put that. But

801
00:28:59,586 --> 00:29:01,986
then you're the priorities

802
00:29:02,189 --> 00:29:02,923
will have to be built around

803
00:29:02,923 --> 00:29:03,623
that budget and that resource,

804
00:29:03,623 --> 00:29:06,526
right? You know, it will set

805
00:29:06,526 --> 00:29:07,227
meetings and and try to

806
00:29:07,227 --> 00:29:09,627
determine what the priorities

807
00:29:11,432 --> 00:29:12,650
of the community are and and

808
00:29:12,650 --> 00:29:12,899
then make decisions going

809
00:29:12,899 --> 00:29:14,340
forward. So whether it be

810
00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:14,401
services, whether it be

811
00:29:14,401 --> 00:29:16,401
staffing.

812
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:19,600
>> Whatever it MAY be, you

813
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,400
know, commission would have to

814
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,708
make a decision about the

815
00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:23,708
millage rate and any other

816
00:29:23,944 --> 00:29:25,946
fees that we charge. You know,

817
00:29:25,946 --> 00:29:26,614
these you know, have to be

818
00:29:26,614 --> 00:29:28,949
answered some point. You're

819
00:29:28,949 --> 00:29:32,549
right. We agree with you. But

820
00:29:32,653 --> 00:29:33,888
you it's gonna have an impact.

821
00:29:33,888 --> 00:29:35,122
You know, my my windstorm

822
00:29:35,122 --> 00:29:35,756
insurance in swat up about

823
00:29:35,756 --> 00:29:38,156
$3,000. So there goes my

824
00:29:44,198 --> 00:29:45,900
savings.

825
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:47,900
>> OCTOBER, OCTOBER NOVEMBER,

826
00:29:48,970 --> 00:29:50,137
the historically we are this

827
00:29:50,137 --> 00:29:50,905
year, too. The board is not me

828
00:29:50,905 --> 00:29:51,606
because we've met so much

829
00:29:51,606 --> 00:29:54,575
throughout the year were one

830
00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:56,344
of the boards that have

831
00:29:56,344 --> 00:29:57,450
probably one of the most

832
00:29:57,450 --> 00:29:59,445
meetings throughout the year.

833
00:30:00,140 --> 00:30:02,884
And so we we give gifts. Staff

834
00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:05,920
a chance not only to take a

835
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,880
take a rest from having too

836
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,457
work closely with the board.

837
00:30:09,457 --> 00:30:10,191
But then they all sort of the

838
00:30:10,191 --> 00:30:10,859
process of doing every year in

839
00:30:10,859 --> 00:30:12,260
close out for the previous

840
00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:14,660
physical for that physical

841
00:30:15,563 --> 00:30:17,799
year were coming off of so.

842
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:20,702
But then possibly come back in

843
00:30:20,702 --> 00:30:21,436
DECEMBER. If we see a need to

844
00:30:21,436 --> 00:30:24,673
and then the course in JANUARY

845
00:30:24,673 --> 00:30:25,373
and will fit, we'll hit the

846
00:30:25,373 --> 00:30:26,750
ground running again, mayor,

847
00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:29,750
as you said, will definitely

848
00:30:29,444 --> 00:30:30,345
know by NOVEMBER. And I think

849
00:30:30,345 --> 00:30:33,945
once we know that the number

850
00:30:34,683 --> 00:30:35,717
will probably need DECEMBER.

851
00:30:35,717 --> 00:30:36,618
>> Very good at any of

852
00:30:36,618 --> 00:30:38,200
question. If I MAY. I just

853
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,720
also want to echo everyone

854
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,554
sentiments. Thank you so much

855
00:30:39,554 --> 00:30:41,223
to you and your entire board

856
00:30:41,223 --> 00:30:43,225
for the work that you do

857
00:30:43,225 --> 00:30:45,930
enough throughout the whole

858
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:45,828
year. I mean, it really is

859
00:30:45,828 --> 00:30:46,762
amazing to track what you guys

860
00:30:46,762 --> 00:30:49,532
do, how it all starts the

861
00:30:49,532 --> 00:30:50,532
process. And I really hope the

862
00:30:50,532 --> 00:30:51,233
public understands the

863
00:30:51,233 --> 00:30:51,967
commitment that you guys all

864
00:30:51,967 --> 00:30:55,804
make and the work that you all

865
00:30:55,804 --> 00:30:57,373
put into it. It's very night.

866
00:30:57,373 --> 00:30:58,774
I you know, I I'm really happy

867
00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:00,750
that it's chiming with the

868
00:31:00,750 --> 00:31:00,976
tentative budget that was

869
00:31:00,976 --> 00:31:03,145
proposed by Laura want to

870
00:31:03,145 --> 00:31:05,214
reiterate. So you aboard is

871
00:31:05,214 --> 00:31:06,182
firmly and support of the

872
00:31:06,182 --> 00:31:08,582
tentative budget as proposed.

873
00:31:09,718 --> 00:31:10,419
Yes, asleep. Okay. Excellent.

874
00:31:10,419 --> 00:31:11,120
And I do look forward to the

875
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,687
work. We are going to have to

876
00:31:11,687 --> 00:31:13,589
roll up our sleeves,

877
00:31:13,589 --> 00:31:16,325
especially if this passes. But

878
00:31:16,325 --> 00:31:17,393
I think we'll get there. I

879
00:31:17,393 --> 00:31:20,463
what I really feel sorry for

880
00:31:20,463 --> 00:31:21,764
all the small communities in

881
00:31:21,764 --> 00:31:24,433
our state that so much rely on

882
00:31:24,433 --> 00:31:27,303
ad valorem tax that that that

883
00:31:27,303 --> 00:31:29,703
homestead attacks that they

884
00:31:30,730 --> 00:31:31,307
collect, which really is their

885
00:31:31,307 --> 00:31:32,108
entire budget. We are

886
00:31:32,108 --> 00:31:32,841
fortunate that we are a

887
00:31:32,841 --> 00:31:35,241
diverse economy. We are

888
00:31:35,578 --> 00:31:36,279
diverse revenue sources for

889
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:39,415
taxes. It's going to be very

890
00:31:39,415 --> 00:31:40,116
interesting to see if this

891
00:31:40,116 --> 00:31:41,284
passes. What happens to those

892
00:31:41,284 --> 00:31:43,684
smaller communities, towns and

893
00:31:43,887 --> 00:31:45,540
counties in our state? I

894
00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:46,523
really don't know how they

895
00:31:46,523 --> 00:31:47,223
survive, actually, but well,

896
00:31:47,223 --> 00:31:50,660
one of those cities might be

897
00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:53,600
something like Parkland, which

898
00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:57,267
has 75 to 80% of their tax

899
00:31:57,267 --> 00:31:57,801
base center properties site it

900
00:31:57,801 --> 00:31:58,502
become they become

901
00:31:58,502 --> 00:31:59,202
unincorporated. Today emerged

902
00:31:59,202 --> 00:32:01,238
with another town and Broward

903
00:32:01,238 --> 00:32:02,105
County. I mean, what happened?

904
00:32:02,105 --> 00:32:04,841
So, you know, we'll Luckily

905
00:32:04,841 --> 00:32:08,441
for us, we're not in that

906
00:32:08,578 --> 00:32:09,646
position, but I I do hope that

907
00:32:09,646 --> 00:32:11,646
everyone understands the

908
00:32:12,449 --> 00:32:13,250
ramifications for the entire

909
00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:13,950
entire state and what can

910
00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:15,953
happen. And it's interesting,

911
00:32:15,953 --> 00:32:16,653
man that you mention the

912
00:32:16,653 --> 00:32:19,456
increase in your wind storm.

913
00:32:19,456 --> 00:32:20,156
We we seem to not think of

914
00:32:20,156 --> 00:32:22,259
those The state doesn't think

915
00:32:22,259 --> 00:32:23,594
of those things that it's

916
00:32:23,594 --> 00:32:25,620
easier just to say. Let's cut

917
00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:26,730
your property taxes. And in

918
00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:28,765
the meantime, the other issues

919
00:32:28,765 --> 00:32:31,235
that affect us so greatly like

920
00:32:31,235 --> 00:32:31,902
property insurance. As you

921
00:32:31,902 --> 00:32:33,902
mentioned, windstorm, those

922
00:32:34,204 --> 00:32:35,739
all get no attention so that

923
00:32:35,739 --> 00:32:38,739
this almost becomes like the

924
00:32:39,176 --> 00:32:39,910
out for the state without.

925
00:32:39,910 --> 00:32:42,479
Basically focusing on a lot of

926
00:32:42,479 --> 00:32:45,149
issues that effect day today

927
00:32:45,149 --> 00:32:45,850
as citizens of the state. So

928
00:32:45,850 --> 00:32:47,351
it's an interesting concept.

929
00:32:47,351 --> 00:32:50,870
We'll see how it plays out.

930
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:51,155
But again, I want say thank

931
00:32:51,155 --> 00:32:53,555
thrilled that you 100% behind

932
00:32:54,859 --> 00:32:55,593
the budget as proposed again.

933
00:32:55,593 --> 00:32:56,260
Thank you for your You'll have

934
00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:58,329
a few months off now. We'll

935
00:32:58,329 --> 00:33:00,231
see you in DECEMBER. Thank

936
00:33:00,231 --> 00:33:03,234
you. And just closing, I can't

937
00:33:03,234 --> 00:33:05,634
emphasize enough. Per the

938
00:33:06,137 --> 00:33:09,737
staff and omb. I mean there

939
00:33:09,807 --> 00:33:12,143
and then not not to a to any

940
00:33:12,143 --> 00:33:13,100
other department, but we have

941
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:15,100
energy contact directly

942
00:33:16,614 --> 00:33:18,783
contact with that staff. They

943
00:33:18,783 --> 00:33:19,617
are tremendous. I know even a

944
00:33:19,617 --> 00:33:21,586
former board member mentioned

945
00:33:21,586 --> 00:33:24,586
came from the private sector.

946
00:33:24,689 --> 00:33:25,457
>> Was always so amazed at how

947
00:33:25,457 --> 00:33:28,260
and be and how they were

948
00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:31,626
always on top of things and

949
00:33:31,697 --> 00:33:35,297
the kudos and I think they

950
00:33:37,302 --> 00:33:38,403
deserve a round of applause.

951
00:33:38,403 --> 00:33:42,300
>> And I ask to stand up

952
00:33:50,849 --> 00:33:51,483
tomorrow.

953
00:33:51,483 --> 00:33:53,619
>> Mayor had couple built

954
00:33:53,619 --> 00:33:55,220
before you sit down just

955
00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:57,620
couple questions. One, thank

956
00:33:57,623 --> 00:34:00,525
you again for working n

957
00:34:00,525 --> 00:34:01,660
especially in partnership with

958
00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:02,361
on be how is that house and

959
00:34:02,361 --> 00:34:04,696
process been going? Because

960
00:34:04,696 --> 00:34:06,498
you all day deep into

961
00:34:06,498 --> 00:34:08,634
department spending so forth

962
00:34:08,634 --> 00:34:09,668
is the is how are

963
00:34:09,668 --> 00:34:11,503
collaborating and working

964
00:34:11,503 --> 00:34:12,772
together and working with

965
00:34:12,772 --> 00:34:13,706
staff is icon. Well, is there

966
00:34:13,706 --> 00:34:14,373
anything we can do from a

967
00:34:14,373 --> 00:34:16,373
commission standpoint staff

968
00:34:17,843 --> 00:34:18,510
point sampling to do better. I

969
00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:20,480
think it's working well of

970
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,480
everything we've asked for. Up

971
00:34:25,317 --> 00:34:26,419
members have been supplied.

972
00:34:26,419 --> 00:34:30,190
Yeah, great. What I think. I

973
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:31,857
think as we move forward.

974
00:34:31,857 --> 00:34:32,492
What's the health and in the

975
00:34:32,492 --> 00:34:34,360
room, Essex rights on the

976
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,270
property tax. That's one when

977
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:38,270
things are really going to

978
00:34:38,664 --> 00:34:40,900
get. Figuring it all out,

979
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:41,567
right? Yeah. And that's that's

980
00:34:41,567 --> 00:34:45,167
one of the questions I get

981
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,306
from neighbors regularly is is

982
00:34:47,306 --> 00:34:50,306
there other savings now that

983
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:51,277
we could be putting in place

984
00:34:51,277 --> 00:34:52,812
and not waiting until

985
00:34:52,812 --> 00:34:56,412
NOVEMBER? And so you all of

986
00:34:56,749 --> 00:34:57,884
obviously diggin and so forth

987
00:34:57,884 --> 00:35:01,484
will be your response to that.

988
00:35:01,521 --> 00:35:02,288
Sure a couple of the savings

989
00:35:02,288 --> 00:35:04,288
possibilities feeling. And,

990
00:35:04,524 --> 00:35:07,524
you know, it's always been

991
00:35:07,594 --> 00:35:08,495
commissioners, the

992
00:35:08,495 --> 00:35:10,430
not-for-profits. Yeah, we've

993
00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:11,564
always had concerns. There's

994
00:35:11,564 --> 00:35:15,164
not been a really good vetting

995
00:35:15,402 --> 00:35:18,672
system for those. Some of the

996
00:35:18,672 --> 00:35:21,275
non for profits feel like it's

997
00:35:21,275 --> 00:35:22,408
an entitlement program. You

998
00:35:22,408 --> 00:35:24,344
know where you guys come up

999
00:35:24,344 --> 00:35:25,645
with 11 million dollars of

1000
00:35:25,645 --> 00:35:29,245
Yeah. So that's a right? Yeah.

1001
00:35:29,249 --> 00:35:29,883
a good a good start.

1002
00:35:29,883 --> 00:35:30,584
>> Yeah, I'm either those

1003
00:35:30,584 --> 00:35:31,285
vacant positions. Those those

1004
00:35:31,285 --> 00:35:34,285
funds were always carried on

1005
00:35:34,821 --> 00:35:36,256
the books. So in essence, when

1006
00:35:36,256 --> 00:35:36,957
you eliminate 6 vacant

1007
00:35:36,957 --> 00:35:39,957
positions off the books have

1008
00:35:40,594 --> 00:35:41,328
freeze up that money that all

1009
00:35:41,328 --> 00:35:44,598
ultimately would at the end of

1010
00:35:44,598 --> 00:35:45,666
every year go back into the

1011
00:35:45,666 --> 00:35:46,701
general fund to be used for

1012
00:35:46,701 --> 00:35:49,101
other things throughout the

1013
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,438
year that explained properly

1014
00:35:51,438 --> 00:35:52,106
yet. Yeah. So so like like you

1015
00:35:52,106 --> 00:35:54,842
said, mayor, that was a big

1016
00:35:54,842 --> 00:35:55,509
savings right there. Yeah, not

1017
00:35:55,509 --> 00:35:57,909
re absorb basically, right?

1018
00:35:58,445 --> 00:36:02,450
Yeah. So those some of the

1019
00:36:02,883 --> 00:36:06,483
things and it's, you as I

1020
00:36:06,754 --> 00:36:08,156
mentioned, non for profits and

1021
00:36:08,156 --> 00:36:08,756
cra, you know, if the cra has

1022
00:36:08,756 --> 00:36:12,326
a lot of money in that

1023
00:36:12,326 --> 00:36:15,128
account. We can maybe hold off

1024
00:36:15,128 --> 00:36:17,128
another 2 years, especially

1025
00:36:17,298 --> 00:36:19,333
with development, not moving

1026
00:36:19,333 --> 00:36:20,100
right now. Maybe that might be

1027
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:20,568
a time to take a pause. I

1028
00:36:20,568 --> 00:36:22,968
mean, that's that's a

1029
00:36:24,272 --> 00:36:24,973
strategic. Decision this

1030
00:36:24,973 --> 00:36:27,973
commission to make a discuss.

1031
00:36:28,643 --> 00:36:29,744
We have a meeting after this

1032
00:36:29,744 --> 00:36:33,314
it's issue that I would like

1033
00:36:33,314 --> 00:36:35,216
address also because I

1034
00:36:35,216 --> 00:36:37,616
understand was a 6 million

1035
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:39,154
dollars a that we generate

1036
00:36:39,154 --> 00:36:40,354
approximately 6 billion a

1037
00:36:40,354 --> 00:36:43,354
year. And that's just city

1038
00:36:44,359 --> 00:36:45,260
funds, you know, doesn't

1039
00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:45,727
include the funds were used

1040
00:36:45,727 --> 00:36:48,430
take advantage of when we had

1041
00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:49,130
the full complement of of

1042
00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:51,530
taxing authorities that were

1043
00:36:52,330 --> 00:36:54,433
contributing to this. So

1044
00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:57,380
something we think about. Look

1045
00:36:57,380 --> 00:36:57,939
at the schedule of

1046
00:36:57,939 --> 00:36:58,473
opportunities that we have in

1047
00:36:58,473 --> 00:37:00,442
the cra's. What our

1048
00:37:00,442 --> 00:37:01,176
expectations are. What are

1049
00:37:01,176 --> 00:37:04,176
what the opportunities are and

1050
00:37:05,681 --> 00:37:06,581
what we can afford. And and

1051
00:37:06,581 --> 00:37:09,451
maybe that would be another

1052
00:37:09,451 --> 00:37:11,420
source of So you see, great,

1053
00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:13,488
but I think we all have to

1054
00:37:13,488 --> 00:37:14,222
agree that we have to keep in

1055
00:37:14,222 --> 00:37:17,959
mind set as we move forward is

1056
00:37:17,959 --> 00:37:18,594
everything should be on the

1057
00:37:18,594 --> 00:37:20,994
table, excluding the key

1058
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:21,730
elements public safety,

1059
00:37:21,730 --> 00:37:23,732
providing good quality water,

1060
00:37:23,732 --> 00:37:25,732
sewer.

1061
00:37:27,436 --> 00:37:27,937
>> Storm water. Protect this

1062
00:37:27,937 --> 00:37:29,606
community for the

1063
00:37:29,606 --> 00:37:31,840
infrastructure needs at those

1064
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,474
that are required in the

1065
00:37:32,474 --> 00:37:34,874
interest life safety and

1066
00:37:36,145 --> 00:37:37,120
sustainability. After that, we

1067
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,120
should be able look at

1068
00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:41,217
everything on the table get.

1069
00:37:41,217 --> 00:37:43,953
Thank you. Thank you. Thank

1070
00:37:43,953 --> 00:37:46,789
you. Appreciate. Thank you Any

1071
00:37:46,789 --> 00:37:47,590
other yes, a lot of us. The

1072
00:37:47,590 --> 00:37:48,190
Brown we can or come Laura

1073
00:37:48,190 --> 00:37:51,190
JULY coming back up for

1074
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,162
second.

1075
00:37:53,162 --> 00:37:53,863
>> Thank again. Thank you to

1076
00:37:53,863 --> 00:37:56,132
everyone and all the input to

1077
00:37:56,132 --> 00:37:58,401
reports in that time that has

1078
00:37:58,401 --> 00:38:01,371
been shared and added to

1079
00:38:01,371 --> 00:38:02,272
opportunity this afternoon.

1080
00:38:02,272 --> 00:38:05,141
But I want us to roll back a

1081
00:38:05,141 --> 00:38:07,243
little bit and I want us to

1082
00:38:07,243 --> 00:38:07,943
really for the record and for

1083
00:38:07,943 --> 00:38:11,214
the room. Let's dive a little

1084
00:38:11,214 --> 00:38:12,820
deeper around and really say

1085
00:38:12,820 --> 00:38:15,820
the sources of new 11 million

1086
00:38:15,218 --> 00:38:17,618
dollars has identified. We

1087
00:38:17,921 --> 00:38:20,757
could say what, but it's

1088
00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:22,826
exactly how much money is

1089
00:38:22,826 --> 00:38:26,426
coming from these Are they in

1090
00:38:26,696 --> 00:38:27,330
a sense convert on comber?

1091
00:38:27,330 --> 00:38:30,330
What what is this money?

1092
00:38:30,734 --> 00:38:33,103
Because I want to know, you

1093
00:38:33,103 --> 00:38:34,104
know exactly where it's coming

1094
00:38:34,104 --> 00:38:35,806
from. And then how else MAY

1095
00:38:35,806 --> 00:38:39,175
need to look at using it going

1096
00:38:39,175 --> 00:38:41,175
forward, thinking about

1097
00:38:45,382 --> 00:38:46,617
property tax referendum. Thank

1098
00:38:46,617 --> 00:38:48,318
you, commissioner. Just

1099
00:38:48,318 --> 00:38:48,986
reiterate some answering the

1100
00:38:48,986 --> 00:38:51,986
cracks questions. So in the

1101
00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:53,991
proposed budget, there are

1102
00:38:53,991 --> 00:38:55,926
10.9 million dollars in

1103
00:38:55,926 --> 00:38:58,326
strategic productions that are

1104
00:38:58,796 --> 00:39:00,630
incorporated. Are you asking

1105
00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:00,931
for me that talk about those?

1106
00:39:00,931 --> 00:39:03,331
Yes, Absolutely. The first

1107
00:39:05,769 --> 00:39:06,537
item on the list is revenue

1108
00:39:06,537 --> 00:39:07,271
enhancements. And so we've

1109
00:39:07,271 --> 00:39:08,500
been partnering throughout the

1110
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:10,774
year with departments and with

1111
00:39:10,774 --> 00:39:11,575
the Budget Advisory Board

1112
00:39:11,575 --> 00:39:12,276
bringing forward then to the

1113
00:39:12,276 --> 00:39:14,276
commission's certain revenues

1114
00:39:15,412 --> 00:39:16,614
and fee increases. One of the

1115
00:39:16,614 --> 00:39:17,181
main ones that was

1116
00:39:17,181 --> 00:39:19,181
incorporated was fire

1117
00:39:19,450 --> 00:39:21,419
ambulance, transport fees that

1118
00:39:21,419 --> 00:39:23,487
were increased and that was

1119
00:39:23,487 --> 00:39:24,188
already implemented. And then

1120
00:39:24,188 --> 00:39:25,220
by rescues really spend some

1121
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:26,857
time trying to enhance

1122
00:39:26,857 --> 00:39:29,257
collection efforts in that

1123
00:39:30,862 --> 00:39:32,931
area. So with the revenue

1124
00:39:32,931 --> 00:39:33,831
enhancements, which included

1125
00:39:33,831 --> 00:39:34,665
interest earnings and new

1126
00:39:34,665 --> 00:39:35,700
program that finance put

1127
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:38,100
together to enhance interest,

1128
00:39:40,605 --> 00:39:42,540
earning program business tax

1129
00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:43,608
fee increases and fire

1130
00:39:43,608 --> 00:39:45,843
ambulance fees for like the 3

1131
00:39:45,843 --> 00:39:46,511
major ones. That was 3.2

1132
00:39:46,511 --> 00:39:48,911
million dollars in revenue

1133
00:39:50,848 --> 00:39:51,749
enhancements. The second item

1134
00:39:51,749 --> 00:39:53,484
that we pointed to in this was

1135
00:39:53,484 --> 00:39:54,886
incorporated in the

1136
00:39:54,886 --> 00:39:57,286
preliminary budget was a

1137
00:39:57,956 --> 00:39:59,190
reduction of 6 vacant

1138
00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:01,260
positions. So many of them had

1139
00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:04,626
been vacant for over a year

1140
00:40:04,896 --> 00:40:06,497
example, we pointed to was

1141
00:40:06,497 --> 00:40:07,332
parks and recreation had

1142
00:40:07,332 --> 00:40:09,134
recruiting for plumber

1143
00:40:09,134 --> 00:40:10,235
position. Some of those

1144
00:40:10,235 --> 00:40:13,235
technical positions. So we did

1145
00:40:13,305 --> 00:40:15,705
add some contractual services

1146
00:40:16,241 --> 00:40:19,440
later, but we did reduce

1147
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,444
positions to the tune $767,000

1148
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:24,883
for 6 positions and that

1149
00:40:24,883 --> 00:40:25,617
reduces the ongoing increase

1150
00:40:25,617 --> 00:40:26,318
in growth wages for those

1151
00:40:26,318 --> 00:40:29,318
positions in our modeling as

1152
00:40:30,422 --> 00:40:31,156
well. The next item is chair

1153
00:40:31,156 --> 00:40:34,156
Brown was talking about, which

1154
00:40:34,427 --> 00:40:35,594
was the attrition we

1155
00:40:35,594 --> 00:40:37,129
previously used a budget for

1156
00:40:37,129 --> 00:40:37,997
positions at the full amount,

1157
00:40:37,997 --> 00:40:38,564
even though we realized there

1158
00:40:38,564 --> 00:40:40,564
was vacant positions

1159
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,869
throughout the year. So now we

1160
00:40:43,869 --> 00:40:44,536
factored in an attrition

1161
00:40:44,536 --> 00:40:46,936
factor for departments that

1162
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,542
vacancies from year to year

1163
00:40:48,542 --> 00:40:51,543
that allowed us to budget for

1164
00:40:51,543 --> 00:40:53,846
$550,000 in General fund for

1165
00:40:53,846 --> 00:40:55,614
attrition. And so that reduces

1166
00:40:55,614 --> 00:40:56,249
our expenses, meaning we don't

1167
00:40:56,249 --> 00:40:56,882
have to actually cut

1168
00:40:56,882 --> 00:40:59,252
positions. But we're just

1169
00:40:59,252 --> 00:41:00,319
budgeting for less salaries.

1170
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,880
So those are the ones that

1171
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,489
were incorporated in

1172
00:41:03,489 --> 00:41:06,489
preliminary. And we talked to

1173
00:41:06,859 --> 00:41:07,660
about those in But since then,

1174
00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:10,660
we added some enhancements and

1175
00:41:11,664 --> 00:41:12,364
for proposed budget. The first

1176
00:41:12,364 --> 00:41:14,200
one, really what we're trying

1177
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,669
to do, our strategy was to

1178
00:41:16,669 --> 00:41:19,669
impact services in the least.

1179
00:41:20,574 --> 00:41:21,608
Lisa Mount possible by looking

1180
00:41:21,608 --> 00:41:23,409
to the resources that we are

1181
00:41:23,409 --> 00:41:24,911
ready have one of the things

1182
00:41:24,911 --> 00:41:27,911
we identified in concert with

1183
00:41:28,848 --> 00:41:29,716
finance was that are we issued

1184
00:41:29,716 --> 00:41:31,117
pension obligation, bonds and

1185
00:41:31,117 --> 00:41:34,454
they have a limited life. I

1186
00:41:34,454 --> 00:41:36,454
believe 7 years, 7 around 7

1187
00:41:36,556 --> 00:41:39,325
years left and we had a fund

1188
00:41:39,325 --> 00:41:40,560
balance that was reserved for

1189
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,295
payment purposes. We that one

1190
00:41:42,295 --> 00:41:44,564
12th every month for cash

1191
00:41:44,564 --> 00:41:46,300
flow, our cash flows really

1192
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:46,967
strong in the city right now.

1193
00:41:46,967 --> 00:41:49,503
So we can do are transfers

1194
00:41:49,503 --> 00:41:52,239
from the various funds into

1195
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,607
that fund on OCTOBER. 1st. And

1196
00:41:53,607 --> 00:41:54,541
that phrase at the fund

1197
00:41:54,541 --> 00:41:55,609
balance we had in that fund

1198
00:41:55,609 --> 00:41:58,512
and we can spend it down over

1199
00:41:58,512 --> 00:42:00,130
the last 7 years of the bond

1200
00:42:00,130 --> 00:42:02,916
and that freed up 2.1 million

1201
00:42:02,916 --> 00:42:03,617
dollars a year. So that was

1202
00:42:03,617 --> 00:42:05,919
financing strategy using our

1203
00:42:05,919 --> 00:42:09,519
own money to reduce tax pence

1204
00:42:09,556 --> 00:42:11,956
question just is that

1205
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:14,159
considered operational?

1206
00:42:16,797 --> 00:42:17,464
>> Or is that falling under a

1207
00:42:17,464 --> 00:42:19,867
different My it's yeah. So

1208
00:42:19,867 --> 00:42:21,680
we're repaying debt. Okay.

1209
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,237
>> And so we have a separate

1210
00:42:23,237 --> 00:42:23,904
fund set up for debt and let's

1211
00:42:23,904 --> 00:42:26,390
say the police department's

1212
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:27,808
portion of that debt to

1213
00:42:27,808 --> 00:42:29,808
support the unfunded

1214
00:42:31,178 --> 00:42:32,179
liability. Let's say it was

1215
00:42:32,179 --> 00:42:32,913
million dollars. We would have

1216
00:42:32,913 --> 00:42:35,313
spread or 1.2 million dollars.

1217
00:42:35,850 --> 00:42:36,717
We would it. But $100,000

1218
00:42:36,717 --> 00:42:39,320
every month into the account

1219
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:39,987
to make the payment. Now we're

1220
00:42:39,987 --> 00:42:42,223
going to pay it all at the

1221
00:42:42,223 --> 00:42:43,558
beginning of the year so that

1222
00:42:43,558 --> 00:42:45,359
we don't have to have. It's

1223
00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:46,600
kind of like a nascar for your

1224
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,328
mortgage. We don't need ask

1225
00:42:47,328 --> 00:42:50,698
for any more. We can spend

1226
00:42:50,698 --> 00:42:52,300
that down take advantage of

1227
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:53,000
funding that we have in place

1228
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,600
by pain for at the beginning

1229
00:42:56,771 --> 00:42:58,873
of the year. And so that was

1230
00:42:58,873 --> 00:43:01,273
2.1 million dollars over the

1231
00:43:01,843 --> 00:43:04,812
next 7 years. We were able

1232
00:43:04,812 --> 00:43:05,447
realize the next item is

1233
00:43:05,447 --> 00:43:07,847
budgeting for interest in

1234
00:43:08,316 --> 00:43:09,170
capital projects. Account. So

1235
00:43:09,170 --> 00:43:11,417
previously, we didn't include

1236
00:43:11,686 --> 00:43:14,889
a budget for interest, but are

1237
00:43:14,889 --> 00:43:17,289
capital projects balances have

1238
00:43:18,693 --> 00:43:20,695
grown over the years and our

1239
00:43:20,695 --> 00:43:21,930
interest program is better. So

1240
00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:22,664
we're earning pretty

1241
00:43:22,664 --> 00:43:23,932
consistently 2 million dollars

1242
00:43:23,932 --> 00:43:25,333
a year. We're going to start

1243
00:43:25,333 --> 00:43:26,101
budgeting for that to offset

1244
00:43:26,101 --> 00:43:28,937
how much we need to actually

1245
00:43:28,937 --> 00:43:30,372
cash contribute to fund our

1246
00:43:30,372 --> 00:43:32,174
capital. So if we have

1247
00:43:32,174 --> 00:43:33,175
10 million dollars projects,

1248
00:43:33,175 --> 00:43:34,176
we only need to budget for

1249
00:43:34,176 --> 00:43:35,911
8 million because the fund

1250
00:43:35,911 --> 00:43:37,913
itself is generating 2 of the

1251
00:43:37,913 --> 00:43:39,810
million. So that was one of

1252
00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:42,681
our strategies that got us and

1253
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,920
additional 2 million dollars.

1254
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,487
The next item is related to

1255
00:43:45,487 --> 00:43:47,887
our health fund where

1256
00:43:48,924 --> 00:43:50,960
self-insured for health. But

1257
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,161
previously, the city also paid

1258
00:43:52,161 --> 00:43:54,561
for the administrative costs

1259
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:55,698
related to the health fund.

1260
00:43:55,698 --> 00:43:58,670
The health funds now and a

1261
00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:59,334
healthy enough position where

1262
00:43:59,334 --> 00:44:00,350
we don't need to do that. So

1263
00:44:00,350 --> 00:44:03,350
the general fund portion that

1264
00:44:05,207 --> 00:44:05,908
we won't have to pay is

1265
00:44:05,908 --> 00:44:08,308
$850,000 with no increases to

1266
00:44:09,412 --> 00:44:11,812
employees, premiums. So that

1267
00:44:13,516 --> 00:44:15,916
solution with 850,000 the next

1268
00:44:19,122 --> 00:44:21,624
item is $882,000. And it it's

1269
00:44:21,624 --> 00:44:22,292
similar to the other funding

1270
00:44:22,292 --> 00:44:23,426
that we talked about. It's

1271
00:44:23,426 --> 00:44:25,826
reducing the fleet replacement

1272
00:44:27,864 --> 00:44:28,798
charge. So. Our city has an

1273
00:44:28,798 --> 00:44:31,798
internal service fund that set

1274
00:44:33,970 --> 00:44:35,905
up to replace our full fleet.

1275
00:44:35,905 --> 00:44:36,639
So if I just general fund

1276
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:37,340
position like somebody in code

1277
00:44:37,340 --> 00:44:40,940
if we purchase a vehicle for,

1278
00:44:41,244 --> 00:44:43,980
oh, let's say $20,000 we put

1279
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:45,140
money aside every year so that

1280
00:44:45,140 --> 00:44:46,183
when that vehicle it needs to

1281
00:44:46,183 --> 00:44:46,849
be replaced, that we have

1282
00:44:46,849 --> 00:44:49,849
money saved to replace the

1283
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,356
vehicle. What we were doing

1284
00:44:52,356 --> 00:44:53,456
before as we're funding and

1285
00:44:53,456 --> 00:44:55,856
95%. And that took into

1286
00:44:56,993 --> 00:44:58,962
account that we could sell the

1287
00:44:58,962 --> 00:45:00,964
vehicle for 5% of its costs to

1288
00:45:00,964 --> 00:45:01,698
offset it. We're seeing that

1289
00:45:01,698 --> 00:45:02,565
we're getting higher prices at

1290
00:45:02,565 --> 00:45:04,965
auction and we're learning

1291
00:45:05,268 --> 00:45:06,470
interest in that fund. So

1292
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:08,438
we're able to reduce the

1293
00:45:08,438 --> 00:45:10,607
amount that we put aside for

1294
00:45:10,607 --> 00:45:13,700
placement by 5% to 90%. So

1295
00:45:15,812 --> 00:45:18,812
again, that was. Change in

1296
00:45:20,918 --> 00:45:23,318
mechanism would be $882,000 in

1297
00:45:23,387 --> 00:45:24,121
savings. 2 more to with

1298
00:45:24,121 --> 00:45:26,121
$350,000 reduction in Fire

1299
00:45:28,158 --> 00:45:29,893
Rescue over time by rescues

1300
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:30,694
implemented some release

1301
00:45:30,694 --> 00:45:33,940
strategic approaches to how

1302
00:45:33,897 --> 00:45:36,297
they filled their vacancies.

1303
00:45:37,935 --> 00:45:38,469
They're experiencing ongoing

1304
00:45:38,469 --> 00:45:40,304
So the city manager

1305
00:45:40,304 --> 00:45:41,380
recommended $350,000 reduction

1306
00:45:41,380 --> 00:45:44,475
to their overtime, which is an

1307
00:45:44,475 --> 00:45:46,344
ongoing savings. And then the

1308
00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:47,612
last one was a pot of funds.

1309
00:45:47,612 --> 00:45:48,279
We used to budget for grant

1310
00:45:48,279 --> 00:45:49,130
writing services. The city

1311
00:45:49,130 --> 00:45:51,983
always wants to be prepared to

1312
00:45:51,983 --> 00:45:54,785
leverage grant funds. We had

1313
00:45:54,785 --> 00:45:55,820
$250,000 set aside for that.

1314
00:45:55,820 --> 00:45:59,358
What we've seen is really only

1315
00:45:59,358 --> 00:46:00,910
around 50,000 was So we're

1316
00:46:00,910 --> 00:46:03,461
reducing the amount. And if we

1317
00:46:03,461 --> 00:46:04,950
have a higher out, we'll have

1318
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:04,762
to come to you to ask for

1319
00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:07,162
permission through a budget

1320
00:46:09,167 --> 00:46:09,867
amendment. Where I'm going

1321
00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:13,467
with him trying to ok, bottom

1322
00:46:15,273 --> 00:46:16,608
line. Where's this money?

1323
00:46:16,608 --> 00:46:17,208
Capital Operation Operating,

1324
00:46:17,208 --> 00:46:18,476
ok? All right. So we're

1325
00:46:18,476 --> 00:46:19,177
looking at operational, right?

1326
00:46:19,177 --> 00:46:21,446
This is where the majority of

1327
00:46:21,446 --> 00:46:22,447
this fund is coming from.

1328
00:46:22,447 --> 00:46:24,716
>> We're looking at the

1329
00:46:24,716 --> 00:46:27,116
NOVEMBER tax property tax

1330
00:46:27,585 --> 00:46:29,187
referendum. If that goes into

1331
00:46:29,187 --> 00:46:32,187
effect, how is this going

1332
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:37,660
affect Operation?

1333
00:46:38,530 --> 00:46:39,164
>> So these strategic

1334
00:46:39,164 --> 00:46:41,564
redactions prepare us for

1335
00:46:43,835 --> 00:46:46,238
before property tax reform. If

1336
00:46:46,238 --> 00:46:47,873
in we see an additional

1337
00:46:47,873 --> 00:46:48,840
17 million dollar reduction in

1338
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,942
revenues. We'll have to

1339
00:46:49,942 --> 00:46:51,942
implement additional

1340
00:46:52,277 --> 00:46:55,277
strategies. We'll try to look

1341
00:46:56,810 --> 00:46:59,510
to something similar to this

1342
00:46:59,510 --> 00:47:00,118
you know, we'll try to impact

1343
00:47:00,118 --> 00:47:00,953
services and the least way

1344
00:47:00,953 --> 00:47:03,880
possible. You know, it'll be

1345
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,323
collaborative will have to

1346
00:47:04,323 --> 00:47:05,524
bring ideas with departments.

1347
00:47:05,524 --> 00:47:06,910
We work really closely with

1348
00:47:06,910 --> 00:47:06,825
all of our operating

1349
00:47:06,825 --> 00:47:09,825
departments to come up with

1350
00:47:09,928 --> 00:47:11,630
ideas. But I am. But we will

1351
00:47:11,630 --> 00:47:13,465
have to bring additional

1352
00:47:13,465 --> 00:47:15,801
ideas. This only gets us to

1353
00:47:15,801 --> 00:47:16,935
2028. And what are we gonna

1354
00:47:16,935 --> 00:47:18,737
use this 11 Million? What are

1355
00:47:18,737 --> 00:47:22,337
we as of this is already

1356
00:47:22,508 --> 00:47:23,209
incorporated into the budget

1357
00:47:23,209 --> 00:47:26,209
to into the proposed budget.

1358
00:47:26,546 --> 00:47:27,546
So it's, you identify, So the

1359
00:47:27,546 --> 00:47:29,482
primary thing we are able to

1360
00:47:29,482 --> 00:47:30,850
do was to enhance or capital

1361
00:47:30,850 --> 00:47:32,418
contributions because we don't

1362
00:47:32,418 --> 00:47:34,520
want to add to ongoing

1363
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,922
operating expenses. So one of

1364
00:47:35,922 --> 00:47:36,689
the things I point to as

1365
00:47:36,689 --> 00:47:39,890
5 million dollars for park's

1366
00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:43,529
pond place holder and items

1367
00:47:43,529 --> 00:47:45,465
like that. So we didn't

1368
00:47:45,465 --> 00:47:46,199
operating programs based on

1369
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:48,201
these reductions because we're

1370
00:47:48,201 --> 00:47:50,201
specifically trying to.

1371
00:47:57,911 --> 00:47:59,813
Balance for 2020. It further

1372
00:47:59,813 --> 00:48:00,780
questions. Yet this time the

1373
00:48:00,780 --> 00:48:02,682
formal the question passes

1374
00:48:02,682 --> 00:48:04,484
formalizing. These are

1375
00:48:04,484 --> 00:48:05,152
recurring savings. Just one

1376
00:48:05,152 --> 00:48:08,152
time saying, is a recurring

1377
00:48:08,555 --> 00:48:09,689
every year. Yes. Yeah.

1378
00:48:09,689 --> 00:48:12,890
>> Yeah. So the structural

1379
00:48:12,125 --> 00:48:12,693
balance budget means ongoing

1380
00:48:12,693 --> 00:48:14,693
revenues tied ongoing

1381
00:48:15,228 --> 00:48:16,429
expenses. We do so find a

1382
00:48:16,429 --> 00:48:18,532
>> large amount of capital

1383
00:48:18,532 --> 00:48:19,266
which is one time cost. We

1384
00:48:19,266 --> 00:48:22,266
have the opportunity to reduce

1385
00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:33,447
that as well.

1386
00:48:33,447 --> 00:48:34,147
>> And I ask that you can ask.

1387
00:48:34,147 --> 00:48:35,215
Well, yeah, because something

1388
00:48:35,215 --> 00:48:38,815
that's one of direction I want

1389
00:48:41,122 --> 00:48:42,560
to go in. Cause is this board

1390
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,158
they've really done amazing

1391
00:48:44,158 --> 00:48:46,393
job with precinct in the

1392
00:48:46,393 --> 00:48:48,195
presentation. And I'm hoping

1393
00:48:48,195 --> 00:48:51,132
I've talked to some of you and

1394
00:48:51,132 --> 00:48:51,699
you all have had some great

1395
00:48:51,699 --> 00:48:54,699
input and Mares is an

1396
00:48:54,735 --> 00:48:55,436
opportunity now that we allow

1397
00:48:55,436 --> 00:48:58,873
some of the board to share as

1398
00:48:58,873 --> 00:49:01,775
well. I would I would love to

1399
00:49:01,775 --> 00:49:02,476
hear from all over if they

1400
00:49:02,476 --> 00:49:05,476
have, if they something, they

1401
00:49:09,317 --> 00:49:10,510
want Ionescu was all over. I

1402
00:49:10,510 --> 00:49:12,190
don't know if he has something

1403
00:49:12,190 --> 00:49:12,720
to say but would to more is up

1404
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,689
it can I just yes, Thank you

1405
00:49:14,689 --> 00:49:16,891
so much to Laura. I just want

1406
00:49:16,891 --> 00:49:17,558
to talk about the grant

1407
00:49:17,558 --> 00:49:19,958
writing services because I

1408
00:49:21,195 --> 00:49:23,640
don't want to cut off our nose

1409
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:23,698
to spite our face. If we are

1410
00:49:23,698 --> 00:49:26,980
facing some really heavy

1411
00:49:27,102 --> 00:49:27,669
decisions next year.

1412
00:49:27,669 --> 00:49:28,369
>> What what are the

1413
00:49:28,369 --> 00:49:29,103
opportunities? I want to make

1414
00:49:29,103 --> 00:49:31,472
sure that we're still going to

1415
00:49:31,472 --> 00:49:32,674
be able to fund, but we need

1416
00:49:32,674 --> 00:49:33,374
because I'm thinking that we

1417
00:49:33,374 --> 00:49:36,440
need to go after as many

1418
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:36,744
grants as possible even maybe

1419
00:49:36,744 --> 00:49:39,744
accelerate what we've done in

1420
00:49:40,820 --> 00:49:41,950
the past. I don't know right

1421
00:49:41,950 --> 00:49:44,886
now what the temperature is

1422
00:49:44,886 --> 00:49:45,553
out there world of grants. But

1423
00:49:45,553 --> 00:49:46,521
it seems to me that that's

1424
00:49:46,521 --> 00:49:49,521
something we're going to have

1425
00:49:50,392 --> 00:49:51,930
to be really aggressive about

1426
00:49:51,930 --> 00:49:51,860
and making sure that we don't

1427
00:49:51,860 --> 00:49:53,929
leave any, you know, any grant

1428
00:49:53,929 --> 00:49:56,640
out there that we don't go

1429
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,666
after. Obviously, especially

1430
00:49:57,666 --> 00:49:59,634
if we're going to be facing,

1431
00:49:59,634 --> 00:50:01,403
you know, some cuts. So we so

1432
00:50:01,403 --> 00:50:03,906
prepared to be as aggressive

1433
00:50:03,906 --> 00:50:05,607
as possible grant writing,

1434
00:50:05,607 --> 00:50:07,609
even though we are looking at,

1435
00:50:07,609 --> 00:50:08,310
you know, that reduction of

1436
00:50:08,310 --> 00:50:10,310
$200,000 yet. Commissioner, I

1437
00:50:10,312 --> 00:50:11,146
think this so.

1438
00:50:11,146 --> 00:50:13,849
>> You know, we are and you

1439
00:50:13,849 --> 00:50:14,950
need to be aggressive in a

1440
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:15,617
grant program. There are a lot

1441
00:50:15,617 --> 00:50:17,886
of grants out there that we

1442
00:50:17,886 --> 00:50:19,188
don't need that grant reading

1443
00:50:19,188 --> 00:50:20,756
assistance force think sea

1444
00:50:20,756 --> 00:50:22,257
grants, for example, are

1445
00:50:22,257 --> 00:50:24,593
usually completed by staff or

1446
00:50:24,593 --> 00:50:26,729
we don't need that acts. That

1447
00:50:26,729 --> 00:50:27,697
external are basing this

1448
00:50:27,697 --> 00:50:28,764
reduction on our historic

1449
00:50:28,764 --> 00:50:30,650
transfer. We've actually

1450
00:50:30,650 --> 00:50:31,330
needed the assistance for in

1451
00:50:31,330 --> 00:50:32,669
these cases. And we think that

1452
00:50:32,669 --> 00:50:34,837
that will be adequate going

1453
00:50:34,837 --> 00:50:37,206
forward. Now, if we see new

1454
00:50:37,206 --> 00:50:37,907
grants come out if the federal

1455
00:50:37,907 --> 00:50:38,574
or state governments start to

1456
00:50:38,574 --> 00:50:41,210
create new programs and we

1457
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:41,877
need to get more assistance is

1458
00:50:41,877 --> 00:50:42,812
Laura said we can come back

1459
00:50:42,812 --> 00:50:43,746
with a budget amendment to

1460
00:50:43,746 --> 00:50:46,482
seek those funds. If we see

1461
00:50:46,482 --> 00:50:47,617
uptick and what we need.

1462
00:50:47,617 --> 00:50:48,284
>> Okay, great. Thank you. I

1463
00:50:48,284 --> 00:50:49,953
again, I just want to make

1464
00:50:49,953 --> 00:50:51,621
sure that we're as aggressive

1465
00:50:51,621 --> 00:50:52,322
as possible, especially, you

1466
00:50:52,322 --> 00:50:55,910
know, facing the climate that

1467
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:57,226
we going face. Thank Even even

1468
00:50:57,226 --> 00:50:59,226
with that aggressiveness.

1469
00:51:00,530 --> 00:51:02,930
>> Awareness what is actually

1470
00:51:05,502 --> 00:51:06,236
where possibly pay thing of

1471
00:51:06,236 --> 00:51:07,804
sitting here because really in

1472
00:51:07,804 --> 00:51:09,804
a personal moment.

1473
00:51:10,874 --> 00:51:11,541
>> remembering him a calling,

1474
00:51:11,541 --> 00:51:13,760
just just being a homeowner

1475
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,379
being the person. Well, I am a

1476
00:51:16,379 --> 00:51:18,882
resident in the city and just

1477
00:51:18,882 --> 00:51:22,482
living from day to day what

1478
00:51:24,454 --> 00:51:25,689
I'm facing, what I base in the

1479
00:51:25,689 --> 00:51:27,657
remembering a time when I had

1480
00:51:27,657 --> 00:51:29,626
to look hard at my personal

1481
00:51:29,626 --> 00:51:32,260
budget making true decisions

1482
00:51:32,429 --> 00:51:33,290
and being real with myself I

1483
00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:36,290
need to do some things

1484
00:51:38,268 --> 00:51:40,400
differently. And being humbled

1485
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:40,804
enough say this is not the

1486
00:51:40,804 --> 00:51:44,404
time, but what I'm I'm hoping

1487
00:51:48,412 --> 00:51:50,614
to do. So having a out of body

1488
00:51:50,614 --> 00:51:53,684
experience. If you want to say

1489
00:51:53,684 --> 00:51:54,510
really, really taking this and

1490
00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:54,985
because,

1491
00:51:54,985 --> 00:51:58,585
>> you know, you all gave us 6

1492
00:51:58,989 --> 00:51:59,857
weeks off so what we did with

1493
00:51:59,857 --> 00:52:00,558
that time, some of us MAY not

1494
00:52:00,558 --> 00:52:02,559
admit it, but lot of it. I'm

1495
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:05,559
reading here, but with that

1496
00:52:06,564 --> 00:52:08,432
being said, I'm with the fact

1497
00:52:08,432 --> 00:52:09,967
that we definitely lead to be

1498
00:52:09,967 --> 00:52:11,135
aggressive. But what we're

1499
00:52:11,135 --> 00:52:14,735
doing. But at the same time

1500
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,440
with that aggressiveness

1501
00:52:18,442 --> 00:52:19,343
possible with our what we're

1502
00:52:19,343 --> 00:52:21,479
moving forward and not acting

1503
00:52:21,479 --> 00:52:22,179
like NOVEMBER isn't something

1504
00:52:22,179 --> 00:52:23,981
that more than likely is not

1505
00:52:23,981 --> 00:52:27,581
going to be. What we consider

1506
00:52:31,255 --> 00:52:32,490
to be. I'm gonna get up so box

1507
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:35,359
right now. Couple of things in

1508
00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:36,594
a since I haven't had a chance

1509
00:52:36,594 --> 00:52:38,496
yet. I want just a statement.

1510
00:52:38,496 --> 00:52:39,630
This is not a question but a

1511
00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:41,630
response MR. Brown's

1512
00:52:41,299 --> 00:52:42,330
statement.

1513
00:52:42,330 --> 00:52:46,233
>> So one of the things that I

1514
00:52:47,305 --> 00:52:48,573
haven't heard yet and this in

1515
00:52:48,573 --> 00:52:49,507
line with with your statement,

1516
00:52:49,507 --> 00:52:52,377
but it's also in line with

1517
00:52:52,377 --> 00:52:53,111
everything that I've read, all

1518
00:52:53,111 --> 00:52:54,880
the editorials that I've read,

1519
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,580
all the speeches that I've

1520
00:52:55,580 --> 00:52:56,247
made by my elected colleagues

1521
00:52:56,247 --> 00:52:58,647
here locally and throughout

1522
00:53:00,518 --> 00:53:02,521
the state. Never once never

1523
00:53:02,521 --> 00:53:04,123
once have. I heard anybody

1524
00:53:04,123 --> 00:53:07,250
ever mention the word we're

1525
00:53:07,250 --> 00:53:07,959
going to be more efficient.

1526
00:53:07,959 --> 00:53:11,496
All I've heard is we're going

1527
00:53:11,496 --> 00:53:13,980
to raise fees. We're going to

1528
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:13,799
raise taxes. We're going to

1529
00:53:13,799 --> 00:53:16,799
cut services. We're going to

1530
00:53:16,802 --> 00:53:18,403
cut police and fire. And never

1531
00:53:18,403 --> 00:53:19,710
once have I ever heard anybody

1532
00:53:19,710 --> 00:53:20,539
mention that we're going to

1533
00:53:20,539 --> 00:53:23,539
get more efficient. And I

1534
00:53:23,575 --> 00:53:24,877
think that's just a travesty.

1535
00:53:24,877 --> 00:53:27,979
And this is a global issue. Is

1536
00:53:27,979 --> 00:53:28,547
not just with us here. Again,

1537
00:53:28,547 --> 00:53:29,815
I spent a lot of time

1538
00:53:29,815 --> 00:53:30,416
consulting in the private

1539
00:53:30,416 --> 00:53:32,840
sector. I have a lot of

1540
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,684
clients. I work with. And when

1541
00:53:35,888 --> 00:53:36,955
our revenue drops. The first

1542
00:53:36,955 --> 00:53:38,590
thing we do is we look at ways

1543
00:53:38,590 --> 00:53:39,324
that we can do things more

1544
00:53:39,324 --> 00:53:41,660
efficiently. Look at ways that

1545
00:53:41,660 --> 00:53:45,860
we can do more with less. I

1546
00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:50,333
don't start thinking about.

1547
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:52,238
How I'm going to, you know,

1548
00:53:52,238 --> 00:53:54,740
look for ways to, you know,

1549
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:55,474
keep my staff employed while

1550
00:53:55,474 --> 00:53:57,476
my revenue plummets. You know,

1551
00:53:57,476 --> 00:54:01,760
i'm thinking about how am I

1552
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:01,747
going to do more with less? I

1553
00:54:01,747 --> 00:54:04,170
don't say I'm going to cut

1554
00:54:04,170 --> 00:54:04,917
services. I'm going to cut

1555
00:54:04,917 --> 00:54:06,753
product offerings. I look at

1556
00:54:06,753 --> 00:54:09,455
how many going to continue to

1557
00:54:09,455 --> 00:54:11,357
deliver on the expectations of

1558
00:54:11,357 --> 00:54:12,910
my customers. Well, I have

1559
00:54:12,910 --> 00:54:12,792
less revenue coming up because

1560
00:54:12,792 --> 00:54:14,661
that's how you grow your way

1561
00:54:14,661 --> 00:54:15,295
out of a problem. You know,

1562
00:54:15,295 --> 00:54:18,298
grow your way out by by

1563
00:54:18,298 --> 00:54:20,366
saying, you know, we're just

1564
00:54:20,366 --> 00:54:22,680
going to cut of our We're

1565
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:22,870
going to put our clients at at

1566
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:25,870
risk because, you know, the

1567
00:54:26,573 --> 00:54:27,273
residents, our clients. And so

1568
00:54:27,273 --> 00:54:27,974
we can't say we're going to

1569
00:54:27,974 --> 00:54:30,343
cut our services for clients

1570
00:54:30,343 --> 00:54:31,578
that that's not the answer.

1571
00:54:31,578 --> 00:54:32,246
And we can't simply say we're

1572
00:54:32,246 --> 00:54:33,713
going charge of our clients

1573
00:54:33,713 --> 00:54:36,713
work. That's not the answer.

1574
00:54:36,716 --> 00:54:37,851
The answer has got to be that

1575
00:54:37,851 --> 00:54:38,685
we're going to do better and

1576
00:54:38,685 --> 00:54:39,486
we're going to do more with

1577
00:54:39,486 --> 00:54:41,722
less. And never seems to be

1578
00:54:41,722 --> 00:54:43,560
the answer government

1579
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:43,723
government has this unique

1580
00:54:43,723 --> 00:54:44,992
monopoly where we just say

1581
00:54:44,992 --> 00:54:46,827
great, we're going to charge

1582
00:54:46,827 --> 00:54:47,494
you more. And I just think

1583
00:54:47,494 --> 00:54:48,962
that that's a shame. And I

1584
00:54:48,962 --> 00:54:51,198
think we need to be thinking

1585
00:54:51,198 --> 00:54:54,334
more about again, how we drive

1586
00:54:54,334 --> 00:54:55,535
efficiency and how we can

1587
00:54:55,535 --> 00:54:58,205
implement again. The thing I'm

1588
00:54:58,205 --> 00:55:00,207
doing right now is I've

1589
00:55:00,207 --> 00:55:01,275
incorporated ai and everything

1590
00:55:01,275 --> 00:55:03,277
that I do. My work is 50% more

1591
00:55:03,277 --> 00:55:04,745
efficient than it was a year

1592
00:55:04,745 --> 00:55:05,446
ago. I've increased my

1593
00:55:05,446 --> 00:55:07,846
productivity, my output, the

1594
00:55:08,816 --> 00:55:10,985
quality of what I do because

1595
00:55:10,985 --> 00:55:11,852
I'm using chat music. Lord,

1596
00:55:11,852 --> 00:55:12,553
I'm using grok every single

1597
00:55:12,553 --> 00:55:14,855
day. Multiple times a day and

1598
00:55:14,855 --> 00:55:17,124
every single thing that I do

1599
00:55:17,124 --> 00:55:18,993
and again, I I encourage our

1600
00:55:18,993 --> 00:55:20,194
our city staff here to do that

1601
00:55:20,194 --> 00:55:20,928
and they're doing it. I know

1602
00:55:20,928 --> 00:55:21,762
they're doing training classes

1603
00:55:21,762 --> 00:55:23,931
on copilot. And I thank you

1604
00:55:23,931 --> 00:55:26,931
all for for embracing that.

1605
00:55:27,268 --> 00:55:29,360
Over time. Our workforce is

1606
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,436
going to decline naturally

1607
00:55:33,407 --> 00:55:35,276
through attrition. And also

1608
00:55:35,276 --> 00:55:36,100
it's going to have to be

1609
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:36,677
through strategic Lagos, where

1610
00:55:36,677 --> 00:55:37,345
we're just going to simply

1611
00:55:37,345 --> 00:55:39,113
find that we don't need as

1612
00:55:39,113 --> 00:55:41,182
many people to do the job that

1613
00:55:41,182 --> 00:55:44,782
we're doing today. And we only

1614
00:55:45,553 --> 00:55:46,454
have remember. That government

1615
00:55:46,454 --> 00:55:48,389
is not an employment agency.

1616
00:55:48,389 --> 00:55:50,224
We don't exist to employ

1617
00:55:50,224 --> 00:55:50,925
people. We exist to provide

1618
00:55:50,925 --> 00:55:53,610
services to our residents at

1619
00:55:53,610 --> 00:55:56,610
the lowest cost possible. And

1620
00:55:56,164 --> 00:55:56,798
we lose that. We lose that

1621
00:55:56,798 --> 00:55:57,599
concept all the time. I'd

1622
00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:59,701
never hear people say that.

1623
00:55:59,701 --> 00:56:03,238
That's our role. But I always

1624
00:56:03,238 --> 00:56:04,206
hear people say we can't lay

1625
00:56:04,206 --> 00:56:04,939
off staff. We can't cut staff.

1626
00:56:04,939 --> 00:56:06,241
We can't do this. We can't do

1627
00:56:06,241 --> 00:56:09,177
that. I never hear people say

1628
00:56:09,177 --> 00:56:10,112
here's what we can do. And so

1629
00:56:10,112 --> 00:56:11,379
I just want encourage us all

1630
00:56:11,379 --> 00:56:13,810
to have a different mindset.

1631
00:56:13,810 --> 00:56:16,810
When we're looking at this

1632
00:56:19,354 --> 00:56:21,223
scarcity. Drives improvement.

1633
00:56:21,223 --> 00:56:23,625
Nothing focuses the mind like

1634
00:56:23,625 --> 00:56:25,894
scarcity. I learned a long

1635
00:56:25,894 --> 00:56:28,630
time ago when I was working

1636
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:29,231
for a company that was

1637
00:56:29,231 --> 00:56:30,232
experiencing financial

1638
00:56:30,232 --> 00:56:30,966
distress. And I will tell you

1639
00:56:30,966 --> 00:56:33,366
nothing focuses your attention

1640
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:36,672
like bankruptcy. You know, I

1641
00:56:36,672 --> 00:56:37,973
would encourage us all to look

1642
00:56:37,973 --> 00:56:38,674
at this, not as as a crisis,

1643
00:56:38,674 --> 00:56:42,274
but as an opportunity for us

1644
00:56:42,444 --> 00:56:43,278
to get better and to be more

1645
00:56:43,278 --> 00:56:45,882
focused. It's a challenge to

1646
00:56:45,882 --> 00:56:47,816
us to get better. What we do

1647
00:56:47,816 --> 00:56:48,484
so and I would love to hear

1648
00:56:48,484 --> 00:56:49,118
from Olivia, so live If you

1649
00:56:49,118 --> 00:56:52,118
would care to share your

1650
00:57:03,365 --> 00:57:03,999
thoughts. Can you hear Thanks

1651
00:57:03,999 --> 00:57:06,399
for gt. Commissioner vice

1652
00:57:07,603 --> 00:57:09,405
mayor and commissioners.

1653
00:57:09,405 --> 00:57:10,639
>> When the CHAIRMAN Brown

1654
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:13,390
described the unanimous vote

1655
00:57:14,477 --> 00:57:16,646
on this budget. I want to

1656
00:57:16,646 --> 00:57:17,380
mention that that was not able

1657
00:57:17,380 --> 00:57:21,580
to vote because I was stuck in

1658
00:57:23,486 --> 00:57:24,387
the Italian rose and I can.

1659
00:57:24,387 --> 00:57:26,222
But just a few messiah at That

1660
00:57:26,222 --> 00:57:29,225
said, if it out play out

1661
00:57:29,225 --> 00:57:30,393
reason I was there a before I

1662
00:57:30,393 --> 00:57:32,620
would have been able to do and

1663
00:57:32,620 --> 00:57:32,395
I was thinking, oh, so grab

1664
00:57:32,395 --> 00:57:34,395
these.

1665
00:57:38,134 --> 00:57:38,936
>> Mayor Trent Dallas, courage

1666
00:57:38,936 --> 00:57:41,936
to everybody to question to

1667
00:57:42,272 --> 00:57:43,673
uncover the true Self

1668
00:57:43,673 --> 00:57:46,730
knowledge. I still always

1669
00:57:47,477 --> 00:57:51,140
logic in politics and I think.

1670
00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:51,682
It reminded me of the fact and

1671
00:57:51,682 --> 00:57:54,682
I've tried to champion this

1672
00:57:55,850 --> 00:57:55,719
approach for the past 2 years.

1673
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:58,719
We some degree of success

1674
00:57:58,923 --> 00:58:02,523
among my peers and talking to

1675
00:58:02,659 --> 00:58:03,894
some of you at the commission

1676
00:58:03,894 --> 00:58:08,940
is to try to bring ideas. The

1677
00:58:10,334 --> 00:58:11,100
dock on Crete and anchored in

1678
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:11,702
the reality of numbers and

1679
00:58:11,702 --> 00:58:13,670
putting into perspective what

1680
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:14,371
we have done for the past 3 or

1681
00:58:14,371 --> 00:58:15,739
4 years. And I put a lot now

1682
00:58:15,739 --> 00:58:19,339
that takes on the table shed

1683
00:58:21,278 --> 00:58:21,979
was my colleagues to see the

1684
00:58:21,979 --> 00:58:23,881
trends and and folks, Alice,

1685
00:58:23,881 --> 00:58:24,615
and I just we can't blame

1686
00:58:24,615 --> 00:58:28,215
staff for a new government for

1687
00:58:28,419 --> 00:58:32,190
doing that. But to a cool

1688
00:58:35,726 --> 00:58:36,827
comments bless you. There's a

1689
00:58:36,827 --> 00:58:37,795
there's tendency to cut the

1690
00:58:37,795 --> 00:58:40,765
pace from one unit to another.

1691
00:58:40,765 --> 00:58:44,365
And generally we see of the

1692
00:58:44,468 --> 00:58:46,304
general fund and lot more on

1693
00:58:46,304 --> 00:58:48,272
charges, fees, cetera, et

1694
00:58:48,272 --> 00:58:49,841
cetera. And we have incurred a

1695
00:58:49,841 --> 00:58:50,908
lot of burden on our

1696
00:58:50,908 --> 00:58:53,308
residents. And I was

1697
00:58:55,130 --> 00:58:57,315
advocating all this year some

1698
00:58:57,315 --> 00:58:59,715
desk assignment from everybody

1699
00:59:00,752 --> 00:59:02,754
to gather ideas in

1700
00:59:02,754 --> 00:59:05,623
anticipation of the loss of

1701
00:59:05,623 --> 00:59:06,691
revenue, how to stimulate our

1702
00:59:06,691 --> 00:59:07,925
revenues. And there is a lot

1703
00:59:07,925 --> 00:59:11,950
of ideas, fund staff as well.

1704
00:59:11,950 --> 00:59:13,698
We can do better in positive

1705
00:59:13,698 --> 00:59:14,766
and then spent of revenue. Now

1706
00:59:14,766 --> 00:59:17,102
the other side of the equation

1707
00:59:17,102 --> 00:59:20,839
is how do we save money? And I

1708
00:59:20,839 --> 00:59:22,600
say Inc, we need to get better

1709
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,600
for you to make the

1710
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,812
arbitration that you have to

1711
00:59:26,812 --> 00:59:29,212
make and anticipate that

1712
00:59:29,447 --> 00:59:31,716
before. Next year old before

1713
00:59:31,716 --> 00:59:32,417
2029, when we have 15 million

1714
00:59:32,417 --> 00:59:34,452
deficit, we start from pretty

1715
00:59:34,452 --> 00:59:38,520
and city whole because we had

1716
00:59:38,457 --> 00:59:41,327
at City Hall the very

1717
00:59:41,327 --> 00:59:42,494
difficult time. And we have to

1718
00:59:42,494 --> 00:59:43,729
it was this is the worst

1719
00:59:43,729 --> 00:59:44,630
timing to actually commit to

1720
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:47,433
city Hall, which is funny, not

1721
00:59:47,433 --> 00:59:51,633
the same amount on the load on

1722
00:59:52,838 --> 00:59:56,775
the budget year as as the the

1723
00:59:56,775 --> 00:59:58,677
property impact. So.

1724
00:59:58,677 --> 00:59:59,378
Basically, I don't think the

1725
00:59:59,378 --> 01:00:01,247
budget this year I would have

1726
01:00:01,247 --> 01:00:03,616
voted to approve it because I

1727
01:00:03,616 --> 01:00:05,985
think we didn't anticipate

1728
01:00:05,985 --> 01:00:08,385
enough structural reform that

1729
01:00:10,550 --> 01:00:11,190
we could have done. And I sing

1730
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:12,258
waiting for next year when we

1731
01:00:12,258 --> 01:00:15,258
will be in more difficult

1732
01:00:16,529 --> 01:00:18,640
position and the year after is

1733
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:18,798
going to be a little late, I

1734
01:00:18,798 --> 01:00:21,267
think we had a poor tee tee to

1735
01:00:21,267 --> 01:00:22,935
green solutions year. I'm

1736
01:00:22,935 --> 01:00:27,135
hoping that as we start a new

1737
01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:29,208
cycle will do go deeper as a

1738
01:00:29,208 --> 01:00:32,808
group into a pushing stuff to

1739
01:00:32,879 --> 01:00:35,348
get better ideas and and more

1740
01:00:35,348 --> 01:00:36,682
announcements and we can't

1741
01:00:36,682 --> 01:00:39,385
create miracles. I think we

1742
01:00:39,385 --> 01:00:40,530
need to cut some budgets. I

1743
01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:42,222
don't think that's going to

1744
01:00:42,222 --> 01:00:45,222
off the table. Maybe some

1745
01:00:45,658 --> 01:00:47,600
service level changed in

1746
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,600
General City whole seems to

1747
01:00:52,999 --> 01:00:55,368
be. The wrong decision of the

1748
01:00:55,368 --> 01:00:56,703
wrong time. We adding a lot of

1749
01:00:56,703 --> 01:00:59,103
weight to 270 million dollar

1750
01:00:59,906 --> 01:01:02,108
baseline. And we still very

1751
01:01:02,108 --> 01:01:04,508
expensive per square footage.

1752
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,581
Commissioner Glassman, you

1753
01:01:07,581 --> 01:01:09,683
last commission meeting. You

1754
01:01:09,683 --> 01:01:12,520
mention sunrise, you mentioned

1755
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:12,853
the as the cities around us

1756
01:01:12,853 --> 01:01:14,722
and I looked at the numbers

1757
01:01:14,722 --> 01:01:18,258
and the price per square foot

1758
01:01:18,258 --> 01:01:18,925
is still much less what are we

1759
01:01:18,925 --> 01:01:20,661
going pay. And we all know

1760
01:01:20,661 --> 01:01:23,661
that like building, if we

1761
01:01:24,598 --> 01:01:26,500
budget 100 million dollars, it

1762
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:27,901
might land at 150. So what

1763
01:01:27,901 --> 01:01:30,301
about the 217, especially when

1764
01:01:31,538 --> 01:01:32,439
the design is not finalized,

1765
01:01:32,439 --> 01:01:35,275
this trainees is moving a

1766
01:01:35,275 --> 01:01:35,943
family, but I think this was

1767
01:01:35,943 --> 01:01:39,543
the the worst idea for the

1768
01:01:40,781 --> 01:01:42,883
worse time. My concern for the

1769
01:01:42,883 --> 01:01:46,320
budget next is that we should

1770
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,588
put a foot of 18 other gimmick

1771
01:01:47,588 --> 01:01:48,289
or word, but really at the

1772
01:01:48,289 --> 01:01:51,289
center of our budget process

1773
01:01:51,425 --> 01:01:52,126
and we stuff. I think we

1774
01:01:52,126 --> 01:01:53,961
should help residents to get

1775
01:01:53,961 --> 01:01:57,561
some some sort of relief and

1776
01:01:58,499 --> 01:01:59,967
find ways to not increase. You

1777
01:01:59,967 --> 01:02:02,967
know, beyond if cars sent 4,

1778
01:02:03,404 --> 01:02:04,720
1, 1, 9, 3, manager, 8, which

1779
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,720
provides more revenue as we

1780
01:02:07,175 --> 01:02:10,378
expand a tax value. We have

1781
01:02:10,378 --> 01:02:12,347
taxed out residents. We spire

1782
01:02:12,347 --> 01:02:14,747
assessment. We storm water.

1783
01:02:15,583 --> 01:02:16,150
Those increases are, you know,

1784
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:17,719
Jack Antic. I made a

1785
01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:20,119
calculation on the budget

1786
01:02:22,457 --> 01:02:23,124
based upon a 640 j Home State

1787
01:02:23,124 --> 01:02:25,524
House. And it's staggering,

1788
01:02:26,161 --> 01:02:28,196
you know, per year. It's not

1789
01:02:28,196 --> 01:02:31,166
the numbers that I've seen a

1790
01:02:31,166 --> 01:02:31,966
previously. So I think we

1791
01:02:31,966 --> 01:02:34,169
missed opportunities this year

1792
01:02:34,169 --> 01:02:37,169
to go further in structural

1793
01:02:37,406 --> 01:02:38,139
reforms and there's positive

1794
01:02:38,139 --> 01:02:40,139
revenue announcement positive,

1795
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:41,810
the use of ai. I'm tired of

1796
01:02:41,810 --> 01:02:44,212
hearing about ai and we're

1797
01:02:44,212 --> 01:02:45,381
training and we learning I'd

1798
01:02:45,381 --> 01:02:48,500
like to show me the money. How

1799
01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:50,180
much are we going to save? We

1800
01:02:50,180 --> 01:02:51,386
say aye rather than cutting

1801
01:02:51,386 --> 01:02:52,870
some jobs, but eventually I'm

1802
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:54,856
Fred, that if this commission

1803
01:02:54,856 --> 01:02:58,326
doesn't do it, the next mayor

1804
01:02:58,326 --> 01:03:01,326
with the next commission is

1805
01:03:01,496 --> 01:03:02,531
going do that dirty job of

1806
01:03:02,531 --> 01:03:04,931
cutting a cutting jobs

1807
01:03:06,502 --> 01:03:07,469
employment. Remember, we are

1808
01:03:07,469 --> 01:03:08,937
he would well funded and we

1809
01:03:08,937 --> 01:03:11,607
have a lot of the employees.

1810
01:03:11,607 --> 01:03:12,508
They cost a lot of money every

1811
01:03:12,508 --> 01:03:13,876
year. The cost of those

1812
01:03:13,876 --> 01:03:15,711
employees is increasing.

1813
01:03:15,711 --> 01:03:17,711
Structurally out even

1814
01:03:18,580 --> 01:03:20,182
increasing the budget. So I

1815
01:03:20,182 --> 01:03:22,840
think we need to really go

1816
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,486
deep. And I'm calling this out

1817
01:03:24,486 --> 01:03:26,886
of buddy a sentiment

1818
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:28,324
commission to be sleepy Mena

1819
01:03:28,324 --> 01:03:32,395
had is that we need to be more

1820
01:03:32,395 --> 01:03:34,864
concrete as Bob and pushing

1821
01:03:34,864 --> 01:03:36,650
stuff to what's more tangible

1822
01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:38,465
solutions positive. And also

1823
01:03:39,335 --> 01:03:40,360
sometimes part solutions.

1824
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,638
That's all I want say. Thank

1825
01:03:42,638 --> 01:03:43,339
you so much. I do have one

1826
01:03:43,339 --> 01:03:45,975
question now. When bad meets

1827
01:03:45,975 --> 01:03:46,676
will the departments? I think

1828
01:03:46,676 --> 01:03:49,760
because you've mentioned that

1829
01:03:49,278 --> 01:03:50,130
you think need to go So have

1830
01:03:50,130 --> 01:03:53,130
you had those discussions with

1831
01:03:53,820 --> 01:03:53,950
staff or have you look at the

1832
01:03:53,950 --> 01:03:55,118
departments?

1833
01:03:55,118 --> 01:03:56,920
>> Where do you see the bloat?

1834
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,556
Where do you see the need to

1835
01:03:59,556 --> 01:04:01,724
cut a departments staff?

1836
01:04:01,724 --> 01:04:02,425
>> When you see the need to

1837
01:04:02,425 --> 01:04:05,425
cut positions, have you have

1838
01:04:06,596 --> 01:04:07,664
you been able to have those

1839
01:04:07,664 --> 01:04:08,364
discussions? Yeah, another

1840
01:04:08,364 --> 01:04:08,932
takes at the beginning of the

1841
01:04:08,932 --> 01:04:11,368
year that I shared my

1842
01:04:11,368 --> 01:04:12,435
colleagues and staff of the

1843
01:04:12,435 --> 01:04:13,470
U.S. Lee.

1844
01:04:13,470 --> 01:04:15,471
>> About the ratio you know,

1845
01:04:15,471 --> 01:04:17,608
per capita in terms of

1846
01:04:17,608 --> 01:04:19,742
employees, budget looking at

1847
01:04:19,742 --> 01:04:20,878
other cities in Florida across

1848
01:04:20,878 --> 01:04:23,780
the nation of do the same

1849
01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:24,982
thing we see deal cost square

1850
01:04:24,982 --> 01:04:26,883
footage. What we saved a

1851
01:04:26,883 --> 01:04:30,483
little money. We went down on

1852
01:04:30,787 --> 01:04:31,989
the proposal of city all, but

1853
01:04:31,989 --> 01:04:32,723
we're still the we still

1854
01:04:32,723 --> 01:04:34,725
better innovation across the

1855
01:04:34,725 --> 01:04:36,126
nation. I'm talking about

1856
01:04:36,126 --> 01:04:36,860
staff about I don't care about

1857
01:04:36,860 --> 01:04:40,460
I'm asking you about staff and

1858
01:04:40,631 --> 01:04:43,767
we are have you dug in.

1859
01:04:43,767 --> 01:04:44,868
>> To say this department is

1860
01:04:44,868 --> 01:04:45,569
over These these positions are

1861
01:04:45,569 --> 01:04:48,569
too many for this department.

1862
01:04:48,706 --> 01:04:49,640
This is where we need to cut.

1863
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,242
>> This is where we have some

1864
01:04:51,242 --> 01:04:51,976
below. Have you done that?

1865
01:04:51,976 --> 01:04:54,976
Yes, I have done Commissioner,

1866
01:04:55,312 --> 01:04:58,182
you see that. And I so that

1867
01:04:58,182 --> 01:05:00,217
the city manager's office city

1868
01:05:00,217 --> 01:05:01,180
manages I've seen Those

1869
01:05:01,180 --> 01:05:02,787
developments have grown a lot

1870
01:05:02,787 --> 01:05:04,422
in the past 3 or 4 years

1871
01:05:04,422 --> 01:05:05,122
budget.

1872
01:05:05,122 --> 01:05:05,823
>> Even if you look at and I

1873
01:05:05,823 --> 01:05:09,590
don't want to put the public

1874
01:05:09,590 --> 01:05:10,270
safety on the spot, but the

1875
01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:12,960
office of the chief of police

1876
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:12,830
has grown a lot. There might

1877
01:05:12,830 --> 01:05:14,132
be some good reason and I will

1878
01:05:14,132 --> 01:05:14,799
hear more about tomorrow

1879
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:17,199
because we're meeting with

1880
01:05:17,402 --> 01:05:19,871
chief of police on not and to

1881
01:05:19,871 --> 01:05:20,572
keep eyes and the performance

1882
01:05:20,572 --> 01:05:23,141
of the the police department

1883
01:05:23,141 --> 01:05:25,541
compared to the the

1884
01:05:25,877 --> 01:05:26,744
well-funded budget that keeps

1885
01:05:26,744 --> 01:05:28,579
growing. But I have identified

1886
01:05:28,579 --> 01:05:29,981
and share my colleagues. I

1887
01:05:29,981 --> 01:05:33,581
think what we need to do

1888
01:05:33,985 --> 01:05:36,988
better as as as a board is to

1889
01:05:36,988 --> 01:05:38,356
take Zoe's and it takes and

1890
01:05:38,356 --> 01:05:40,325
hard numbers and renew some

1891
01:05:40,325 --> 01:05:43,328
you know, Inc in inside a

1892
01:05:43,328 --> 01:05:45,497
solution. And we need to get

1893
01:05:45,497 --> 01:05:47,398
better. That challenging staff

1894
01:05:47,398 --> 01:05:49,000
and heads of department how

1895
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,203
you can do better. We less I

1896
01:05:52,203 --> 01:05:53,104
think it's not a private

1897
01:05:53,104 --> 01:05:54,773
sector versus public sector. I

1898
01:05:54,773 --> 01:05:58,900
think we should get on board.

1899
01:05:58,900 --> 01:05:59,311
By the way, Miami-Dade, Rowan

1900
01:05:59,311 --> 01:06:01,747
County, the school board all

1901
01:06:01,747 --> 01:06:04,747
have done some saying too,

1902
01:06:04,983 --> 01:06:05,951
better less money, cut jobs

1903
01:06:05,951 --> 01:06:08,951
and the even provide some

1904
01:06:10,889 --> 01:06:13,759
degree of relief for residents

1905
01:06:13,759 --> 01:06:15,127
in terms of And while the

1906
01:06:15,127 --> 01:06:16,995
school board has seen drastic

1907
01:06:16,995 --> 01:06:19,198
reductions of students to

1908
01:06:19,198 --> 01:06:19,898
service as opposed to our city

1909
01:06:19,898 --> 01:06:21,767
where we've seen increase in

1910
01:06:21,767 --> 01:06:22,734
population increase growth.

1911
01:06:22,734 --> 01:06:24,537
>> So I can't see how we can

1912
01:06:24,537 --> 01:06:25,838
compare ourselves to the

1913
01:06:25,838 --> 01:06:26,472
school board. Plus, the school

1914
01:06:26,472 --> 01:06:28,874
board is exempt from the

1915
01:06:28,874 --> 01:06:30,943
property tax reform. Lucky

1916
01:06:30,943 --> 01:06:32,778
them and also the school board

1917
01:06:32,778 --> 01:06:33,812
has another ballot initiative

1918
01:06:33,812 --> 01:06:34,446
on NOVEMBER, even raise more

1919
01:06:34,446 --> 01:06:37,149
money. In addition to the

1920
01:06:37,149 --> 01:06:37,850
millage rate money that they

1921
01:06:37,850 --> 01:06:40,286
raise. Is true? He was one of

1922
01:06:40,286 --> 01:06:43,255
the example I cited. We revert

1923
01:06:43,255 --> 01:06:46,255
to Miami-Dade and County. I

1924
01:06:46,292 --> 01:06:47,293
think there's an effort to

1925
01:06:47,293 --> 01:06:48,728
made.

1926
01:06:48,728 --> 01:06:49,829
>> In terms of heart measures,

1927
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:50,496
you should also all of the

1928
01:06:50,496 --> 01:06:51,864
bill. Now you might have to

1929
01:06:51,864 --> 01:06:54,534
have surgery later. So I think

1930
01:06:54,534 --> 01:06:57,270
we need to and I say did 6

1931
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:58,404
months ago in front you, we

1932
01:06:58,404 --> 01:07:01,400
need to go on a diet. We get

1933
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,430
into a of your diet about can

1934
01:07:04,430 --> 01:07:05,645
help you find some solutions.

1935
01:07:05,645 --> 01:07:06,513
You have to direct staff to be

1936
01:07:06,513 --> 01:07:09,148
serious about it. Whatever the

1937
01:07:09,148 --> 01:07:11,548
city manager in charge

1938
01:07:12,285 --> 01:07:13,319
previous and current. I think

1939
01:07:13,319 --> 01:07:15,588
this is a hot job hawk feel

1940
01:07:15,588 --> 01:07:16,790
that we need to swell week now

1941
01:07:16,790 --> 01:07:18,725
because in the next 2 years

1942
01:07:18,725 --> 01:07:20,627
we're going to be in a

1943
01:07:20,627 --> 01:07:21,161
difficult situation and we

1944
01:07:21,161 --> 01:07:21,252
can't accept the c#

1945
01:07:21,252 --> 01:07:21,341
#

1946
01:07:21,341 --> 01:07:21,461
#

1947
01:07:21,461 --> 01:07:22,161
see, I

1948
01:07:22,161 --> 01:07:24,664
don't want to be an alarmist,

1949
01:07:24,664 --> 01:07:26,466
but I think we need to to do

1950
01:07:26,466 --> 01:07:30,700
better and I hope we can start

1951
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:31,471
the next budget process my

1952
01:07:31,471 --> 01:07:34,471
colleagues to actually be more

1953
01:07:35,275 --> 01:07:35,976
of what we should be, which is

1954
01:07:35,976 --> 01:07:39,346
a sort of the consultant that

1955
01:07:39,346 --> 01:07:40,614
help beyond city stuff. Penn,

1956
01:07:40,614 --> 01:07:43,500
some will question and ideas.

1957
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:43,750
We want to be more proactive.

1958
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:46,887
We want to push staff. I see

1959
01:07:46,887 --> 01:07:47,688
that should be our role. And

1960
01:07:47,688 --> 01:07:49,456
also residents of the center

1961
01:07:49,456 --> 01:07:51,856
of out process affordability

1962
01:07:53,494 --> 01:07:54,394
should be not as nice where on

1963
01:07:54,394 --> 01:07:57,970
the slide, it we should

1964
01:07:57,970 --> 01:07:57,798
actually do something about

1965
01:07:57,798 --> 01:08:01,998
And if we can't, if we don't

1966
01:08:02,236 --> 01:08:03,370
raise the millage rate, don't

1967
01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:04,271
cheat. The residents wellness

1968
01:08:04,271 --> 01:08:07,775
to paid by seeing if iss month

1969
01:08:07,775 --> 01:08:10,377
on citation a fee all they

1970
01:08:10,377 --> 01:08:12,580
want fewer. It goes so so much

1971
01:08:12,580 --> 01:08:14,248
higher than 2 years of those

1972
01:08:14,248 --> 01:08:15,583
numbers as well to share with

1973
01:08:15,583 --> 01:08:16,650
you later. She okay. Great.

1974
01:08:16,650 --> 01:08:19,120
Thank you so much. Thank you.

1975
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:19,787
I look forward to that work.

1976
01:08:19,787 --> 01:08:21,489
Actually. I why I'm really

1977
01:08:21,489 --> 01:08:22,156
curious to see those numbers

1978
01:08:22,156 --> 01:08:24,125
and that that that outlook

1979
01:08:24,125 --> 01:08:25,426
from you because I

1980
01:08:25,426 --> 01:08:26,794
>> you know, just mentioning

1981
01:08:26,794 --> 01:08:27,662
the city manager's office or

1982
01:08:27,662 --> 01:08:28,295
extract com, those those are

1983
01:08:28,295 --> 01:08:30,640
in significant numbers in

1984
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:30,798
terms of our overall budget.

1985
01:08:30,798 --> 01:08:33,601
So we need to see definitely a

1986
01:08:33,601 --> 01:08:34,268
lot more than that. But I

1987
01:08:34,268 --> 01:08:35,670
definitely look forward to

1988
01:08:35,670 --> 01:08:37,838
that work. I think it's

1989
01:08:37,838 --> 01:08:39,907
important. But I think staff

1990
01:08:39,907 --> 01:08:40,942
would be very happy to, you

1991
01:08:40,942 --> 01:08:41,676
know, basically work along

1992
01:08:41,676 --> 01:08:43,244
those We're all going to be in

1993
01:08:43,244 --> 01:08:45,346
a position where we need to

1994
01:08:45,346 --> 01:08:46,214
dig deeper. I don't doubt

1995
01:08:46,214 --> 01:08:49,814
that. I just saying that our

1996
01:08:50,151 --> 01:08:53,221
role as Bob is not to

1997
01:08:53,221 --> 01:08:55,900
>> do come by all and it we

1998
01:08:55,900 --> 01:08:57,920
questions. And that's part of

1999
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:58,693
our role sent to residents. We

2000
01:08:58,693 --> 01:09:01,363
are a budget advisory board.

2001
01:09:01,363 --> 01:09:03,398
So let's visor job. It

2002
01:09:03,398 --> 01:09:04,833
requires lot. So a lot of work

2003
01:09:04,833 --> 01:09:05,634
and research, but I think we

2004
01:09:05,634 --> 01:09:07,669
have bright minds on these

2005
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:08,870
courts. It's not leadership

2006
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:11,573
and and really pushing hot. So

2007
01:09:11,573 --> 01:09:13,442
I think we need to get you

2008
01:09:13,442 --> 01:09:14,175
that we'll meet. We lightly

2009
01:09:14,175 --> 01:09:17,120
was chosen not to take that. I

2010
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,130
presented to colleagues to 6

2011
01:09:18,130 --> 01:09:19,982
months ago. Excellent. I look

2012
01:09:19,982 --> 01:09:20,549
forward to that. And by the

2013
01:09:20,549 --> 01:09:21,216
way, can buy has not

2014
01:09:21,216 --> 01:09:21,917
necessarily a bad thing. If

2015
01:09:21,917 --> 01:09:22,451
you actually agree with what

2016
01:09:22,451 --> 01:09:24,486
the staff is doing.

2017
01:09:24,486 --> 01:09:28,686
>> You can be come by. I any

2018
01:09:29,124 --> 01:09:30,920
us do. It's great. And I think

2019
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,692
I worked well. We staff we

2020
01:09:35,697 --> 01:09:36,966
meet. We taught it doesn't

2021
01:09:36,966 --> 01:09:37,599
mean that we can't challenge

2022
01:09:37,599 --> 01:09:38,233
it is to have a different

2023
01:09:38,233 --> 01:09:39,668
perspective from the city

2024
01:09:39,668 --> 01:09:41,236
stuff and it's okay. We can.

2025
01:09:41,236 --> 01:09:43,706
We can disagree. We can have a

2026
01:09:43,706 --> 01:09:44,840
different reading of the

2027
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,840
numbers. I think the problem

2028
01:09:47,843 --> 01:09:50,243
so often is that.

2029
01:09:50,713 --> 01:09:51,714
>> We go one year next year

2030
01:09:51,714 --> 01:09:52,848
and we don't take the time to

2031
01:09:52,848 --> 01:09:55,248
take perspectives to takes,

2032
01:09:58,487 --> 01:09:59,155
you know, some. Some longtime

2033
01:09:59,155 --> 01:09:59,855
perspective. And I think we

2034
01:09:59,855 --> 01:10:01,991
need to do that. And I think

2035
01:10:01,991 --> 01:10:03,580
Biden has an apology to those

2036
01:10:03,580 --> 01:10:03,693
that more. No. And I

2037
01:10:03,693 --> 01:10:04,393
understand, although the

2038
01:10:04,393 --> 01:10:06,195
projections that we see do go

2039
01:10:06,195 --> 01:10:06,863
out into the future so we can

2040
01:10:06,863 --> 01:10:07,763
continue the discussion. I

2041
01:10:07,763 --> 01:10:08,397
look forward to it. We're all

2042
01:10:08,397 --> 01:10:09,833
gonna have to roll up our

2043
01:10:09,833 --> 01:10:12,833
sleeves and work really hard.

2044
01:10:13,502 --> 01:10:14,637
>> When this next cycle comes

2045
01:10:14,637 --> 01:10:16,472
commissioner the projection

2046
01:10:16,472 --> 01:10:19,709
from Saint take steal a show

2047
01:10:19,709 --> 01:10:20,810
negatives in 2008 to 28 29,

2048
01:10:20,810 --> 01:10:21,544
right. So get it. Love it will

2049
01:10:21,544 --> 01:10:23,446
get to that. Let's just let's

2050
01:10:23,446 --> 01:10:25,480
just focus on what we're doing

2051
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:25,715
today. And I and we appreciate

2052
01:10:25,715 --> 01:10:27,650
you your your perspective.

2053
01:10:27,650 --> 01:10:31,250
Yes, bill, last word. Going to

2054
01:10:33,857 --> 01:10:36,257
conclude this meeting? Very

2055
01:10:37,694 --> 01:10:38,795
quickly. The question about

2056
01:10:38,795 --> 01:10:40,795
department heads and

2057
01:10:40,964 --> 01:10:41,965
efficiency this past year.

2058
01:10:41,965 --> 01:10:42,632
They've been more efficient

2059
01:10:42,632 --> 01:10:45,536
than I've seen a long time.

2060
01:10:45,536 --> 01:10:46,536
Accountability and government.

2061
01:10:46,536 --> 01:10:48,605
>> What are the things

2062
01:10:48,605 --> 01:10:49,339
previous city manager did and

2063
01:10:49,339 --> 01:10:52,339
I make this suggesting not

2064
01:10:52,942 --> 01:10:53,577
coming from the bad but

2065
01:10:53,577 --> 01:10:54,211
because we've not taken a

2066
01:10:54,211 --> 01:10:56,413
position. But I think the

2067
01:10:56,413 --> 01:10:57,514
previous city manager didn't

2068
01:10:57,514 --> 01:10:59,316
exercise. What if it ever

2069
01:10:59,316 --> 01:11:02,219
would had if you had to cut

2070
01:11:02,219 --> 01:11:03,487
5%? I don't know if that was

2071
01:11:03,487 --> 01:11:04,188
shared with his diocese or was

2072
01:11:04,188 --> 01:11:04,821
it ever share with the board?

2073
01:11:04,821 --> 01:11:06,723
We can't direct staff or

2074
01:11:06,723 --> 01:11:08,425
something we can as but that

2075
01:11:08,425 --> 01:11:11,295
doesn't mean I think it who've

2076
01:11:11,295 --> 01:11:12,290
us all to take a look at that.

2077
01:11:12,290 --> 01:11:15,466
It has because this has become

2078
01:11:15,466 --> 01:11:18,466
a nation, too 5% off of

2079
01:11:19,336 --> 01:11:20,700
police, 5% off every

2080
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:22,440
department. I yet. How was the

2081
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:25,242
exercise can? All right. Let's

2082
01:11:25,242 --> 01:11:26,510
not go there. All But it would

2083
01:11:26,510 --> 01:11:27,211
be interesting, actually. What

2084
01:11:27,211 --> 01:11:28,512
think? That's a great idea.

2085
01:11:28,512 --> 01:11:30,548
I'd love to see that. I'd love

2086
01:11:30,548 --> 01:11:31,716
to actually see whatever was

2087
01:11:31,716 --> 01:11:32,383
put together. If if staff is

2088
01:11:32,383 --> 01:11:34,652
already done that exercise.

2089
01:11:34,652 --> 01:11:35,520
Please share that with me.

2090
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:36,721
Thank you.

2091
01:11:36,721 --> 01:11:37,388
>> Yeah, we have not seen. All

2092
01:11:37,388 --> 01:11:38,789
right. That because that's

2093
01:11:38,789 --> 01:11:39,690
going to that could help the

2094
01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:41,726
foundation moving forward for

2095
01:11:41,726 --> 01:11:44,726
dental care. Thank you. Very

2096
01:11:44,996 --> 01:11:46,497
good. All right. City manager.

2097
01:11:46,497 --> 01:11:47,198
Yes, you have one more item on

2098
01:11:47,198 --> 01:11:50,198
agenda, which is the auditors

2099
01:11:50,401 --> 01:11:51,690
for you of the budget. But

2100
01:11:51,690 --> 01:11:53,438
>> for this again, want to

2101
01:11:53,438 --> 01:11:55,173
thank the bad chair, Brown and

2102
01:11:55,173 --> 01:11:56,140
the entire team for their work

2103
01:11:56,140 --> 01:11:56,808
this year. It was really great

2104
01:11:56,808 --> 01:11:57,809
to participate with you and

2105
01:11:57,809 --> 01:12:00,809
thank you for bringing us

2106
01:12:15,260 --> 01:12:17,260
recommendation today. MR.

2107
01:12:21,132 --> 01:12:23,132
Good

2108
01:12:24,135 --> 01:12:24,970
afternoon, mayor and

2109
01:12:24,970 --> 01:12:26,671
Commissioners.

2110
01:12:26,671 --> 01:12:27,505
>> City auditors all office

2111
01:12:27,505 --> 01:12:30,505
has performed review of fiscal

2112
01:12:31,743 --> 01:12:32,878
year 2026. 2027. Proposed

2113
01:12:32,878 --> 01:12:34,813
budget. The budget is compact

2114
01:12:34,813 --> 01:12:36,348
compiled by the city manager

2115
01:12:36,348 --> 01:12:38,748
pursuant to Section 4.0 9 of

2116
01:12:41,220 --> 01:12:41,887
the city charter. We had

2117
01:12:41,887 --> 01:12:44,156
several objectives for our

2118
01:12:44,156 --> 01:12:45,390
review of the fiscal year

2119
01:12:45,390 --> 01:12:46,580
proposed budget, the primary

2120
01:12:46,580 --> 01:12:47,726
focus of our review was to

2121
01:12:47,726 --> 01:12:48,293
ensure that the budget is

2122
01:12:48,293 --> 01:12:50,293
balance, revenue and

2123
01:12:51,630 --> 01:12:53,630
expenditures. Estimates are

2124
01:12:54,333 --> 01:12:56,733
reasonable. And truly correct.

2125
01:12:56,903 --> 01:12:57,503
And that the priority

2126
01:12:57,503 --> 01:12:58,604
established by the City

2127
01:12:58,604 --> 01:12:59,405
Commission's priorities. Also

2128
01:12:59,405 --> 01:13:00,206
funding allocations in the

2129
01:13:00,206 --> 01:13:02,842
coming year and that the

2130
01:13:02,842 --> 01:13:04,577
propose millage rate is in

2131
01:13:04,577 --> 01:13:06,577
compliance with Florida

2132
01:13:06,645 --> 01:13:08,314
statutes, the scope and

2133
01:13:08,314 --> 01:13:08,982
methodology of our review

2134
01:13:08,982 --> 01:13:10,583
consisted of the following.

2135
01:13:10,583 --> 01:13:11,484
The city auditor's office

2136
01:13:11,484 --> 01:13:13,484
perform various analytical

2137
01:13:14,654 --> 01:13:15,521
procedures, reviewed budget

2138
01:13:15,521 --> 01:13:17,521
support, worksheets invading

2139
01:13:19,392 --> 01:13:20,920
course to omb as needed.

2140
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,492
Additionally, the co compared

2141
01:13:22,495 --> 01:13:23,830
the line item detail from the

2142
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:24,664
proposed budget to the

2143
01:13:24,664 --> 01:13:25,231
projections, actual

2144
01:13:25,231 --> 01:13:27,231
expenditures through

2145
01:13:29,369 --> 01:13:31,369
SEPTEMBER. 2026. Furthermore,

2146
01:13:33,500 --> 01:13:35,342
the city and allies trends in

2147
01:13:35,342 --> 01:13:37,410
variances of the 3 prior

2148
01:13:37,410 --> 01:13:39,646
fiscal years. Budget versus

2149
01:13:39,646 --> 01:13:40,246
actual to gain a historical

2150
01:13:40,246 --> 01:13:42,246
perspective to identify

2151
01:13:45,418 --> 01:13:46,820
opportunities. 2. To look to

2152
01:13:46,820 --> 01:13:48,722
see that the accuracy and

2153
01:13:48,722 --> 01:13:50,490
revenue of 6 of the

2154
01:13:50,490 --> 01:13:51,910
expenditure estimates. The

2155
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:53,910
documents reviewed also

2156
01:13:53,660 --> 01:13:54,894
included the executive

2157
01:13:54,894 --> 01:13:57,894
summary. We review of reports

2158
01:13:58,698 --> 01:14:01,698
that were provided through the

2159
01:14:03,603 --> 01:14:04,304
software system and it reports

2160
01:14:04,304 --> 01:14:07,904
that we were able to request

2161
01:14:11,678 --> 01:14:14,348
from omb. The. Again, finally

2162
01:14:14,348 --> 01:14:14,949
as part of our audit work, Co

2163
01:14:14,949 --> 01:14:15,782
all budget meetings and

2164
01:14:15,782 --> 01:14:17,351
relevant meetings as a related

2165
01:14:17,351 --> 01:14:20,951
to the development of the new

2166
01:14:22,256 --> 01:14:22,889
budget. This participation.

2167
01:14:22,889 --> 01:14:25,289
Further, give us further

2168
01:14:25,559 --> 01:14:26,593
insight as to the conditions

2169
01:14:26,593 --> 01:14:27,294
and of recommendations of that

2170
01:14:27,294 --> 01:14:30,294
were being prepared for this

2171
01:14:31,398 --> 01:14:32,990
year's budget. As I mentioned

2172
01:14:32,990 --> 01:14:35,990
prior years, the city budget

2173
01:14:35,736 --> 01:14:37,736
review. Feels pleasure.

2174
01:14:39,707 --> 01:14:40,407
Reviews perform each year. The

2175
01:14:40,407 --> 01:14:41,308
committee, the communication

2176
01:14:41,308 --> 01:14:43,344
between Management Bat Cao and

2177
01:14:43,344 --> 01:14:44,478
the city's commission, our

2178
01:14:44,478 --> 01:14:46,878
frequent throughout the year

2179
01:14:49,784 --> 01:14:51,218
and the budget office has

2180
01:14:51,218 --> 01:14:51,919
continuity of senior staff

2181
01:14:51,919 --> 01:14:52,620
within the department and in

2182
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:54,889
prior years, no material

2183
01:14:54,889 --> 01:14:57,889
errors were noted on previous

2184
01:14:59,660 --> 01:15:02,600
reviews. The SEALs conclusion

2185
01:15:03,364 --> 01:15:04,399
is that the fiscal year 2026?

2186
01:15:04,399 --> 01:15:05,660
2027 proposed budget of the

2187
01:15:05,660 --> 01:15:07,535
city of Fort Lauderdale is

2188
01:15:07,535 --> 01:15:09,871
considered a balanced budget

2189
01:15:09,871 --> 01:15:10,571
as presented. In addition, the

2190
01:15:10,571 --> 01:15:12,540
priorities established in the

2191
01:15:12,540 --> 01:15:13,474
city's commission priorities

2192
01:15:13,474 --> 01:15:15,874
also show funding allocations

2193
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:18,346
in the coming year and the

2194
01:15:18,346 --> 01:15:18,947
proposed millage rate is in

2195
01:15:18,947 --> 01:15:20,947
compliance with Florida

2196
01:15:22,417 --> 01:15:23,451
statutes. The areas of concern

2197
01:15:23,451 --> 01:15:24,353
Section noted in our memo

2198
01:15:24,353 --> 01:15:25,453
which is not not all

2199
01:15:25,453 --> 01:15:27,453
inclusive, but currently

2200
01:15:28,723 --> 01:15:29,424
represents areas. The ceo

2201
01:15:29,424 --> 01:15:30,992
deemed important enough to be

2202
01:15:30,992 --> 01:15:31,826
brought to the city's

2203
01:15:31,826 --> 01:15:34,226
commission. 2 brought to the

2204
01:15:35,630 --> 01:15:36,231
city's attention. These

2205
01:15:36,231 --> 01:15:38,631
concerns are related to

2206
01:15:39,701 --> 01:15:40,402
ongoing events and mate. MAY

2207
01:15:40,402 --> 01:15:44,200
impact the budget in the city

2208
01:15:44,373 --> 01:15:45,107
resources going forward. Areas

2209
01:15:45,107 --> 01:15:48,707
of concern over time trying to

2210
01:15:49,478 --> 01:15:51,546
take we are parties. No more

2211
01:15:51,546 --> 01:15:52,281
for the JULY. No more Great

2212
01:15:52,281 --> 01:15:54,516
American Beach When you see if

2213
01:15:54,516 --> 01:15:56,516
that's what evening.

2214
01:16:01,123 --> 01:16:02,257
>> I'm You know, depending you

2215
01:16:02,257 --> 01:16:03,580
know, think things that we MAY

2216
01:16:03,580 --> 01:16:03,692
in the future. My there's some

2217
01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:05,794
that were I don't believe

2218
01:16:05,794 --> 01:16:07,730
we're ever going

2219
01:16:07,730 --> 01:16:10,730
>> cut out. But there's some

2220
01:16:16,372 --> 01:16:17,606
want to or not. It's I'm open

2221
01:16:17,606 --> 01:16:21,206
any because it show bill on

2222
01:16:21,577 --> 01:16:22,278
this. You know, rethink this.

2223
01:16:22,278 --> 01:16:24,547
Yeah, I know. You know, thing

2224
01:16:24,547 --> 01:16:25,281
is we're hearing a lot of very

2225
01:16:25,281 --> 01:16:26,349
nice sounding things. But when

2226
01:16:26,349 --> 01:16:27,830
it comes down nitty-gritty,

2227
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:27,650
what are we talking about?

2228
01:16:27,650 --> 01:16:29,585
Versus fission season

2229
01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:31,200
departments. That means.

2230
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:31,921
>> That telling people to work

2231
01:16:31,921 --> 01:16:33,489
longer hours are doing better

2232
01:16:33,489 --> 01:16:35,491
at their job or were laying

2233
01:16:35,491 --> 01:16:36,925
off people. Those are the

2234
01:16:36,925 --> 01:16:37,627
realities. So, you know, and

2235
01:16:37,627 --> 01:16:40,627
we can dance around those

2236
01:16:41,798 --> 01:16:42,499
those those topics. But those

2237
01:16:42,499 --> 01:16:43,599
are the realities and people

2238
01:16:43,599 --> 01:16:44,267
that want to say it or they're

2239
01:16:44,267 --> 01:16:45,468
here. But that's ultimately

2240
01:16:45,468 --> 01:16:48,504
what it comes down to. If we

2241
01:16:48,504 --> 01:16:50,407
have x amount of dollars and

2242
01:16:50,407 --> 01:16:52,742
we're going to have x

2243
01:16:52,742 --> 01:16:53,509
17 million right? Will Dean's

2244
01:16:53,509 --> 01:16:55,578
we got to cut somewhere is

2245
01:16:55,578 --> 01:16:57,447
going to be staffing is going

2246
01:16:57,447 --> 01:16:58,148
to be events is going to be

2247
01:16:58,148 --> 01:17:00,548
contributions. It's going to

2248
01:17:00,583 --> 01:17:01,484
be all that all those And

2249
01:17:01,484 --> 01:17:02,952
that's why we have to reach

2250
01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:05,155
out to the community to decide

2251
01:17:05,155 --> 01:17:05,955
what are the choices and those

2252
01:17:05,955 --> 01:17:06,589
the priorities that that the

2253
01:17:06,589 --> 01:17:08,989
commission would have to

2254
01:17:09,693 --> 01:17:12,195
follow. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

2255
01:17:12,195 --> 01:17:13,960
>> All First concern that we

2256
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:13,630
had was was over time. The ceo

2257
01:17:13,630 --> 01:17:14,464
continues to note a

2258
01:17:14,464 --> 01:17:16,864
significant amount of city

2259
01:17:17,334 --> 01:17:18,501
funds allocated to overtime

2260
01:17:18,501 --> 01:17:20,901
based on current operating

2261
01:17:21,805 --> 01:17:22,572
practices, actual overtime

2262
01:17:22,572 --> 01:17:23,240
expenses consistently exceed

2263
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,876
the amounts included in the

2264
01:17:25,876 --> 01:17:26,610
proposed budget. Police

2265
01:17:26,610 --> 01:17:28,445
department over time remains a

2266
01:17:28,445 --> 01:17:30,845
primary contributor that to

2267
01:17:31,982 --> 01:17:32,616
the projected budget which are

2268
01:17:32,616 --> 01:17:33,283
the largest apartment. It

2269
01:17:33,283 --> 01:17:36,283
would make sense that they

2270
01:17:37,254 --> 01:17:40,854
would have the most but during

2271
01:17:42,590 --> 01:17:43,260
the the fiscal year 2026, the

2272
01:17:43,260 --> 01:17:43,694
projected. This is the final

2273
01:17:43,694 --> 01:17:46,694
year of the fiscal year. 2

2274
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:47,865
it's projected that over time

2275
01:17:47,865 --> 01:17:49,333
for the for the police will be

2276
01:17:49,333 --> 01:17:51,368
30 million dollars and it is

2277
01:17:51,368 --> 01:17:53,368
underfunded by approximately

2278
01:17:55,873 --> 01:17:56,574
1.9 million dollars currently.

2279
01:17:56,574 --> 01:17:57,241
Current operating practices.

2280
01:17:57,241 --> 01:18:00,770
The total talking about all

2281
01:18:00,770 --> 01:18:02,477
the different departments, the

2282
01:18:03,314 --> 01:18:05,314
fiscal year 2027 overtime

2283
01:18:05,916 --> 01:18:06,817
costs, including Associated

2284
01:18:06,817 --> 01:18:07,552
6.5 in 5 because of projected

2285
01:18:07,552 --> 01:18:09,952
to be approximately 26 million

2286
01:18:10,555 --> 01:18:11,255
dollars. Accordingly. The

2287
01:18:11,255 --> 01:18:12,890
overtime amounts included in

2288
01:18:12,890 --> 01:18:15,290
the fiscal year 2020, proposed

2289
01:18:16,270 --> 01:18:16,761
budget do not appear to

2290
01:18:16,761 --> 01:18:18,761
reflect anticipate expenditure

2291
01:18:19,230 --> 01:18:21,232
that MAY require reliance on

2292
01:18:21,232 --> 01:18:23,234
salary savings from funded

2293
01:18:23,234 --> 01:18:23,835
vacancies or other available

2294
01:18:23,835 --> 01:18:25,835
appropriations to cover

2295
01:18:27,672 --> 01:18:28,740
overtime costs. Next item was

2296
01:18:28,740 --> 01:18:31,140
the capital Improvement. Plan

2297
01:18:31,342 --> 01:18:34,342
Garcia. Sorry, City. Are you

2298
01:18:34,345 --> 01:18:35,313
just pause or what mayor, if

2299
01:18:35,313 --> 01:18:36,381
its ok, I'd like take these

2300
01:18:36,381 --> 01:18:37,150
kind of in terms the city

2301
01:18:37,150 --> 01:18:37,816
manager responded to your

2302
01:18:37,816 --> 01:18:40,180
concern about overtime, which

2303
01:18:40,180 --> 01:18:40,719
I think it's a valid concern.

2304
01:18:40,719 --> 01:18:41,353
>> just want to hear a little

2305
01:18:41,353 --> 01:18:44,353
bit from the city manager

2306
01:18:44,456 --> 01:18:45,323
Mary. That's right. Sure. So,

2307
01:18:45,323 --> 01:18:47,859
Chris, you know, given this

2308
01:18:47,859 --> 01:18:48,660
concern, if you could just

2309
01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:49,361
share with everyone especially

2310
01:18:49,361 --> 01:18:52,970
folks who maybe haven't read

2311
01:18:52,970 --> 01:18:54,132
your response. On overtime.

2312
01:18:54,132 --> 01:18:56,234
What's how we're addressing

2313
01:18:56,234 --> 01:18:56,968
that? Yeah, thank you, Vice

2314
01:18:56,968 --> 01:18:59,371
mayor. So I will say start off

2315
01:18:59,371 --> 01:19:00,500
with we largely agree with the

2316
01:19:00,500 --> 01:19:00,739
areas of concern that MR.

2317
01:19:00,739 --> 01:19:03,739
Reilly and his team identified

2318
01:19:05,177 --> 01:19:05,911
and that response you'll see.

2319
01:19:05,911 --> 01:19:06,578
>> Alignment as well as things

2320
01:19:06,578 --> 01:19:09,578
that we've done to address

2321
01:19:10,382 --> 01:19:12,184
these areas as well. So saw in

2322
01:19:12,184 --> 01:19:13,152
our reductions for next year's

2323
01:19:13,152 --> 01:19:14,386
budget looking at the fire

2324
01:19:14,386 --> 01:19:15,540
department over time where

2325
01:19:15,540 --> 01:19:16,588
they were able to find more

2326
01:19:16,588 --> 01:19:17,323
efficiencies in their service

2327
01:19:17,323 --> 01:19:19,723
and scheduling. We've proposed

2328
01:19:20,325 --> 01:19:22,394
reduction to that budget next

2329
01:19:22,394 --> 01:19:23,362
year. Police and fire. We

2330
01:19:23,362 --> 01:19:25,430
continue to work on site,

2331
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:26,232
please. They continue to work

2332
01:19:26,232 --> 01:19:27,366
with our police department. I

2333
01:19:27,366 --> 01:19:28,968
worked with the chief. We

2334
01:19:28,968 --> 01:19:30,968
review those overtime

2335
01:19:31,303 --> 01:19:33,105
statistics monthly. We go over

2336
01:19:33,105 --> 01:19:33,773
the causes and the needs that

2337
01:19:33,773 --> 01:19:35,441
that department MAY have to

2338
01:19:35,441 --> 01:19:37,276
overcome those overtime

2339
01:19:37,276 --> 01:19:37,910
challenges. I will say we're

2340
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:38,577
also looking for ways to

2341
01:19:38,577 --> 01:19:39,212
recover those costs. You'll

2342
01:19:39,212 --> 01:19:41,981
see later tonight on the

2343
01:19:41,981 --> 01:19:42,582
agenda. Agreement with the

2344
01:19:42,582 --> 01:19:44,982
fifa host committee to

2345
01:19:45,985 --> 01:19:46,686
recover. Now 1.7 million

2346
01:19:46,686 --> 01:19:49,860
dollars overtime expended by

2347
01:19:50,723 --> 01:19:51,390
the police department. So this

2348
01:19:51,390 --> 01:19:52,125
is ongoing. It's something

2349
01:19:52,125 --> 01:19:53,693
we're very aware of. And we've

2350
01:19:53,693 --> 01:19:55,428
been working internally to try

2351
01:19:55,428 --> 01:19:56,229
to alleviate and find ways to

2352
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:58,310
adjust that we can have less

2353
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:59,732
overtime occurrences, although

2354
01:19:59,732 --> 01:20:00,466
we know, you know, public

2355
01:20:00,466 --> 01:20:01,134
safety, especially we're going

2356
01:20:01,134 --> 01:20:02,669
to see a need for overtime

2357
01:20:02,669 --> 01:20:06,269
from time to time. Yeah, thank

2358
01:20:06,339 --> 01:20:08,174
you. And what, Chris, patterns

2359
01:20:08,174 --> 01:20:11,211
are you seeing in overtime? In

2360
01:20:11,211 --> 01:20:12,745
other words, is it event

2361
01:20:12,745 --> 01:20:13,947
driven? Is it gaps for shift

2362
01:20:13,947 --> 01:20:16,583
work where we're down a person

2363
01:20:16,583 --> 01:20:17,717
or to what's sand?

2364
01:20:17,717 --> 01:20:18,752
>> Yeah, I would say in the

2365
01:20:18,752 --> 01:20:20,520
police department particular

2366
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,154
it's it's a combination of

2367
01:20:21,154 --> 01:20:23,523
some vacancies and those

2368
01:20:23,523 --> 01:20:24,658
vacancies kind of go up and

2369
01:20:24,658 --> 01:20:25,358
down depending on what we have

2370
01:20:25,358 --> 01:20:27,694
classes graduate, we can fill

2371
01:20:27,694 --> 01:20:28,595
those vacancies right now are

2372
01:20:28,595 --> 01:20:29,729
probably in the 20 vacant

2373
01:20:29,729 --> 01:20:30,530
position ranges. But we're

2374
01:20:30,530 --> 01:20:31,164
waiting for that class to

2375
01:20:31,164 --> 01:20:31,865
graduate. If they haven't

2376
01:20:31,865 --> 01:20:34,601
already to be able to recruit

2377
01:20:34,601 --> 01:20:35,869
and fill those positions,

2378
01:20:35,869 --> 01:20:37,638
you've got everything from

2379
01:20:37,638 --> 01:20:38,772
that family leave its large

2380
01:20:38,772 --> 01:20:39,539
departments that can affect

2381
01:20:39,539 --> 01:20:40,173
scheduling as well. And just

2382
01:20:40,173 --> 01:20:42,573
stay cations absences and

2383
01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:44,478
things like that with the

2384
01:20:44,478 --> 01:20:46,380
events. We usually recover the

2385
01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:47,140
costs. So if we expend over

2386
01:20:47,140 --> 01:20:47,681
time for a special event

2387
01:20:47,681 --> 01:20:49,550
that's approved and that we

2388
01:20:49,550 --> 01:20:52,353
have awareness of, you know,

2389
01:20:52,353 --> 01:20:53,654
we're able to cost recover

2390
01:20:53,654 --> 01:20:54,588
when we have situations where

2391
01:20:54,588 --> 01:20:56,657
there's an unforeseen thing,

2392
01:20:56,657 --> 01:20:57,324
if you know protest pops up

2393
01:20:57,324 --> 01:20:58,425
for their some unrest or

2394
01:20:58,425 --> 01:20:59,860
something that the police has

2395
01:20:59,860 --> 01:21:00,527
to deal with. You know, that's

2396
01:21:00,527 --> 01:21:01,228
something we would have to

2397
01:21:01,228 --> 01:21:01,762
cover those are the things we

2398
01:21:01,762 --> 01:21:03,762
budget for.

2399
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,569
>> And how do we if you are

2400
01:21:08,569 --> 01:21:09,270
kind of rack and stack versus

2401
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:09,970
city our size police force of

2402
01:21:09,970 --> 01:21:13,570
our size in terms of overtime

2403
01:21:14,208 --> 01:21:17,808
a week kind of similar to

2404
01:21:18,145 --> 01:21:19,800
other cities similar size.

2405
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,149
Yeah. So I haven't looked the

2406
01:21:21,149 --> 01:21:21,882
data compared to other cities.

2407
01:21:21,882 --> 01:21:23,840
You know, we are unique. We do

2408
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,286
experience a lot of different

2409
01:21:25,286 --> 01:21:25,953
factors. Other cities don't

2410
01:21:25,953 --> 01:21:26,587
side with the scene where a

2411
01:21:26,587 --> 01:21:28,356
bit ahead of the curve in

2412
01:21:28,356 --> 01:21:30,258
terms of the overtime We have

2413
01:21:30,258 --> 01:21:31,192
a spring break season. We have

2414
01:21:31,192 --> 01:21:34,192
some other season require some

2415
01:21:34,929 --> 01:21:35,663
overtime staffing. So

2416
01:21:35,663 --> 01:21:36,998
>> I would assume I don't like

2417
01:21:36,998 --> 01:21:38,132
to assume, but I would assume

2418
01:21:38,132 --> 01:21:38,967
that because we have some of

2419
01:21:38,967 --> 01:21:40,101
those factors of their

2420
01:21:40,101 --> 01:21:41,235
communities. Don't have that.

2421
01:21:41,235 --> 01:21:42,503
We do expand a little bit

2422
01:21:42,503 --> 01:21:44,903
overtime than your average

2423
01:21:46,407 --> 01:21:47,750
community. Thanks. That based

2424
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:47,776
on that as want to get your

2425
01:21:47,776 --> 01:21:49,776
feedback, the response,

2426
01:21:50,445 --> 01:21:52,445
>> Comfortable.

2427
01:21:55,550 --> 01:21:56,351
>> I mean, I managers made

2428
01:21:56,351 --> 01:21:57,840
some points or there's other

2429
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:58,753
different factors to consider,

2430
01:21:58,753 --> 01:22:01,523
too. Not scheduled that we

2431
01:22:01,523 --> 01:22:03,592
prepared. You can see over the

2432
01:22:03,592 --> 01:22:05,627
last several years just over

2433
01:22:05,627 --> 01:22:06,328
time. This exponentially

2434
01:22:06,328 --> 01:22:08,728
increasing. So there certain

2435
01:22:10,232 --> 01:22:10,899
things to that. Are in, you

2436
01:22:10,899 --> 01:22:13,299
know, certain contracts win

2437
01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:17,372
over time, kicks in before 40

2438
01:22:17,372 --> 01:22:18,600
hours of work has completed.

2439
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,600
But, you know, you could

2440
01:22:21,610 --> 01:22:24,610
include Days Inn vacation days

2441
01:22:24,674 --> 01:22:24,764
as part of your 44 kicks in.

2442
01:22:24,764 --> 01:22:25,914
And there's there's certain

2443
01:22:25,914 --> 01:22:27,383
things like that. Regarding

2444
01:22:27,383 --> 01:22:27,716
when when the overtime kick

2445
01:22:27,716 --> 01:22:27,810
some b#

2446
01:22:27,810 --> 01:22:27,900
#

2447
01:22:27,900 --> 01:22:29,900
#

2448
01:22:31,887 --> 01:22:32,488
, I I understand

2449
01:22:32,488 --> 01:22:33,255
that, you know, police

2450
01:22:33,255 --> 01:22:34,223
department definitely in fire

2451
01:22:34,223 --> 01:22:37,226
will have more over time. They

2452
01:22:37,226 --> 01:22:38,126
have more emergencies and MR.

2453
01:22:38,126 --> 01:22:39,328
Brown mentioned, you know,

2454
01:22:39,328 --> 01:22:42,328
sometimes jurors was a lot

2455
01:22:44,667 --> 01:22:46,735
more, you know. And the

2456
01:22:46,735 --> 01:22:48,204
committee that was unexpected

2457
01:22:48,204 --> 01:22:48,938
relating to a protester and

2458
01:22:48,938 --> 01:22:51,240
things like that. So they have

2459
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:51,941
to be out there regardless o.

2460
01:22:51,941 --> 01:22:52,642
But, you know, I think there

2461
01:22:52,642 --> 01:22:55,978
are some things that could be

2462
01:22:55,978 --> 01:22:58,378
done. Sounds like going

2463
01:22:58,447 --> 01:22:59,148
through the collective

2464
01:22:59,148 --> 01:22:59,849
bargaining. Something process

2465
01:22:59,849 --> 01:23:02,849
is what you're suggesting it.

2466
01:23:03,619 --> 01:23:05,488
You know, Great that. That's

2467
01:23:05,488 --> 01:23:08,488
good for that one. Yet

2468
01:23:10,293 --> 01:23:11,327
question coming I'd just also

2469
01:23:11,327 --> 01:23:12,995
talk about that a little bit.

2470
01:23:12,995 --> 01:23:13,997
So either patter city manager.

2471
01:23:13,997 --> 01:23:17,200
So when we talk about overtime

2472
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,501
and police, first of all,

2473
01:23:18,501 --> 01:23:19,135
>> we adequately you know,

2474
01:23:19,135 --> 01:23:21,535
operational needs and the

2475
01:23:25,308 --> 01:23:25,975
police department. So as the

2476
01:23:25,975 --> 01:23:28,978
chief to come up an answer

2477
01:23:28,978 --> 01:23:29,946
from his perspective, I know

2478
01:23:29,946 --> 01:23:30,747
we.

2479
01:23:30,747 --> 01:23:31,481
>> We discuss this and, you

2480
01:23:31,481 --> 01:23:33,830
experience that they can a few

2481
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:33,783
years ago that were driver

2482
01:23:33,783 --> 01:23:37,983
over time. But I think for an

2483
01:23:40,557 --> 01:23:41,491
hour. For more staff.

2484
01:23:41,491 --> 01:23:42,492
>> chief thank you for being

2485
01:23:42,492 --> 01:23:43,193
here and thank you for hosting

2486
01:23:43,193 --> 01:23:47,393
us today as well and into the

2487
01:23:47,597 --> 01:23:49,533
future. What I'm what I'm

2488
01:23:49,533 --> 01:23:50,200
concerned about is when we

2489
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,336
talk about over time. I got

2490
01:23:52,336 --> 01:23:53,603
all that money was spent on

2491
01:23:53,603 --> 01:23:56,340
overtime. First, I want to

2492
01:23:56,340 --> 01:23:57,441
know if maybe we should be a

2493
01:23:57,441 --> 01:23:58,775
larger department to meet

2494
01:23:58,775 --> 01:23:59,476
growth of our city. The growth

2495
01:23:59,476 --> 01:24:02,546
in the number of people that

2496
01:24:02,546 --> 01:24:03,213
visiting our city, the growth

2497
01:24:03,213 --> 01:24:04,448
and events, the growth. And

2498
01:24:04,448 --> 01:24:05,482
that was mentioned earlier

2499
01:24:05,482 --> 01:24:06,984
when we have to go out and we

2500
01:24:06,984 --> 01:24:07,585
have to help with, you know,

2501
01:24:07,585 --> 01:24:08,719
if there's a state or a

2502
01:24:08,719 --> 01:24:09,753
national protest, whatever it

2503
01:24:09,753 --> 01:24:13,353
is, because I think when we

2504
01:24:13,357 --> 01:24:14,725
look at over time, correct me

2505
01:24:14,725 --> 01:24:15,593
if I'm wrong. But the rate

2506
01:24:15,593 --> 01:24:18,395
that we pay for overtime is

2507
01:24:18,395 --> 01:24:20,464
less than if we were actually

2508
01:24:20,464 --> 01:24:22,233
hiring more people. Correct.

2509
01:24:22,233 --> 01:24:23,300
So while it sounds like an

2510
01:24:23,300 --> 01:24:25,300
exorbitant number, actually,

2511
01:24:25,836 --> 01:24:26,737
it is less than if we went out

2512
01:24:26,737 --> 01:24:29,137
increased staffing. Correct me

2513
01:24:29,340 --> 01:24:30,842
if I'm That is correct. Good

2514
01:24:30,842 --> 01:24:33,242
afternoon. Mayor Vice Mayor

2515
01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:35,790
Commission Schulz chief,

2516
01:24:35,790 --> 01:24:37,480
please several things that you

2517
01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:37,715
brought up. That is correct.

2518
01:24:37,715 --> 01:24:40,518
Over time is less expensive

2519
01:24:40,518 --> 01:24:42,887
than a full-time employee

2520
01:24:42,887 --> 01:24:43,521
overall. Currently we have

2521
01:24:43,521 --> 01:24:45,521
about 31 sworn vacancies

2522
01:24:46,124 --> 01:24:47,258
within the department and then

2523
01:24:47,258 --> 01:24:50,950
you add on to as the city

2524
01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:53,950
manager mentioned, fmla at any

2525
01:24:53,131 --> 01:24:53,832
given time in our department

2526
01:24:53,832 --> 01:24:55,567
alone. And I'm sure the other

2527
01:24:55,567 --> 01:24:57,567
departments have similar

2528
01:24:59,671 --> 01:25:00,238
concerns. We have 20 to 30

2529
01:25:00,238 --> 01:25:00,972
individuals morning.

2530
01:25:00,972 --> 01:25:04,442
Vegetables who are not able to

2531
01:25:04,442 --> 01:25:05,877
report to regular duty. So you

2532
01:25:05,877 --> 01:25:06,678
add that to the 30 or so

2533
01:25:06,678 --> 01:25:07,278
vacancies we currently have.

2534
01:25:07,278 --> 01:25:10,278
That's a good chunk of

2535
01:25:10,515 --> 01:25:11,216
officers that are there. Now

2536
01:25:11,216 --> 01:25:12,517
to answer your question, how

2537
01:25:12,517 --> 01:25:15,286
do we compare with the full

2538
01:25:15,286 --> 01:25:17,255
time employees full-time staff

2539
01:25:17,255 --> 01:25:17,889
of officers? We are currently

2540
01:25:17,889 --> 01:25:19,257
beginning a process where

2541
01:25:19,257 --> 01:25:19,925
we're going to an updated

2542
01:25:19,925 --> 01:25:22,561
comparison to cities of our

2543
01:25:22,561 --> 01:25:23,929
size. As you mentioned, Vice

2544
01:25:23,929 --> 01:25:24,629
mayor to include various

2545
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:26,832
issues. We're looking to see

2546
01:25:26,832 --> 01:25:29,101
if we can get those our time.

2547
01:25:29,101 --> 01:25:30,135
Statistics. We also see where

2548
01:25:30,135 --> 01:25:31,837
they are with their sworn

2549
01:25:31,837 --> 01:25:32,671
staff. I've conversations with

2550
01:25:32,671 --> 01:25:35,710
my colleagues, the other

2551
01:25:36,242 --> 01:25:36,942
chiefs around the state and it

2552
01:25:36,942 --> 01:25:38,343
appears that cities that are

2553
01:25:38,343 --> 01:25:41,460
similar or comparable to our

2554
01:25:41,460 --> 01:25:42,414
size do have parsed warrant

2555
01:25:42,414 --> 01:25:45,414
officers. So that's where I

2556
01:25:45,451 --> 01:25:47,860
want to really compare and

2557
01:25:47,860 --> 01:25:49,540
contrast what levels of

2558
01:25:49,540 --> 01:25:49,755
staffing are compared to what

2559
01:25:49,755 --> 01:25:51,957
our levels are people are to

2560
01:25:51,957 --> 01:25:53,425
make a recommendation on that.

2561
01:25:53,425 --> 01:25:54,260
That's very helpful. That's

2562
01:25:54,260 --> 01:25:55,761
what my next question is going

2563
01:25:55,761 --> 01:25:56,395
to be, because I think it's

2564
01:25:56,395 --> 01:25:58,795
really important. I think

2565
01:25:59,365 --> 01:26:00,566
people understand that the

2566
01:26:00,566 --> 01:26:01,300
number of swat officers that

2567
01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:02,100
were working with now, what is

2568
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:05,100
that number right now? We're

2569
01:26:08,407 --> 01:26:09,575
at 5.71, 5, 7, Yes, I Right

2570
01:26:09,575 --> 01:26:11,975
now we have 30 31 vacancies.

2571
01:26:12,111 --> 01:26:13,880
We are in the process of

2572
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,880
processing certified officers

2573
01:26:16,215 --> 01:26:17,884
who apply. But I have yet to

2574
01:26:17,884 --> 01:26:20,319
hire any of those as those

2575
01:26:20,319 --> 01:26:21,187
miles are just about will have

2576
01:26:21,187 --> 01:26:23,856
about 8, but I'll be able to

2577
01:26:23,856 --> 01:26:25,910
sign in the near future. I

2578
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:26,392
think when you look at all of

2579
01:26:26,392 --> 01:26:27,600
those other cities that you've

2580
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:28,962
mentioned, you're going to

2581
01:26:28,962 --> 01:26:30,696
find that we probably are

2582
01:26:30,696 --> 01:26:31,230
understaffed. I would not be

2583
01:26:31,230 --> 01:26:32,699
surprised if we're

2584
01:26:32,699 --> 01:26:34,934
understaffed by even maybe

2585
01:26:34,934 --> 01:26:35,869
100. And I just think it's

2586
01:26:35,869 --> 01:26:36,536
important as we go forward and

2587
01:26:36,536 --> 01:26:37,637
we consider everything else

2588
01:26:37,637 --> 01:26:39,806
that we have to consider

2589
01:26:39,806 --> 01:26:41,942
public safety being what it

2590
01:26:41,942 --> 01:26:42,642
is. We have to be cognizant of

2591
01:26:42,642 --> 01:26:43,309
that. But I just want to make

2592
01:26:43,309 --> 01:26:45,545
sure that we're putting the

2593
01:26:45,545 --> 01:26:47,480
overtime into perspective

2594
01:26:47,480 --> 01:26:49,583
because, again, it was

2595
01:26:49,583 --> 01:26:50,283
spending less right now on

2596
01:26:50,283 --> 01:26:50,851
overtime. And we would if we

2597
01:26:50,851 --> 01:26:51,518
were paying for those

2598
01:26:51,518 --> 01:26:53,518
full-time positions, that's

2599
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:55,822
all that is correct. Then what

2600
01:26:55,822 --> 01:26:56,590
I'm going to look at as I look

2601
01:26:56,590 --> 01:26:58,592
at this, I want to make sure

2602
01:26:58,592 --> 01:27:00,794
we are doing apples apples

2603
01:27:00,794 --> 01:27:01,495
here we are a beach community

2604
01:27:01,495 --> 01:27:05,695
with a lot of interest. A lot

2605
01:27:06,330 --> 01:27:07,301
of special events, potential

2606
01:27:07,301 --> 01:27:08,268
for severe weather impacts. So

2607
01:27:08,268 --> 01:27:09,690
I want to compare us to those

2608
01:27:09,690 --> 01:27:11,469
same cities. Size percent

2609
01:27:11,571 --> 01:27:12,306
France. It I know for off the

2610
01:27:12,306 --> 01:27:15,275
top of my head, they have over

2611
01:27:15,275 --> 01:27:16,430
600 sworn and Saint Pete. So

2612
01:27:16,430 --> 01:27:16,677
that's what we'll be looking

2613
01:27:16,677 --> 01:27:18,812
at. And I'll be happy to

2614
01:27:18,812 --> 01:27:20,147
report back to says that's not

2615
01:27:20,147 --> 01:27:21,815
I look forward to that. And I

2616
01:27:21,815 --> 01:27:22,483
do want to just thank you for

2617
01:27:22,483 --> 01:27:23,217
your service and the entire

2618
01:27:23,217 --> 01:27:24,151
department because I think for

2619
01:27:24,151 --> 01:27:27,151
the numbers that we're talking

2620
01:27:27,655 --> 01:27:28,422
about in our department, you

2621
01:27:28,422 --> 01:27:29,890
guys do an incredible job.

2622
01:27:29,890 --> 01:27:31,625
Just want to say thank you.

2623
01:27:31,625 --> 01:27:35,225
Thank you, sir. And also to

2624
01:27:35,262 --> 01:27:35,963
add to this conversation. Yes,

2625
01:27:35,963 --> 01:27:38,199
thank you for the great

2626
01:27:38,199 --> 01:27:38,499
service that is given to the

2627
01:27:38,499 --> 01:27:40,499
city.

2628
01:27:41,969 --> 01:27:42,670
>> a little on sure about

2629
01:27:42,670 --> 01:27:45,670
what's being said about that

2630
01:27:49,176 --> 01:27:50,311
over time in it Less than the

2631
01:27:50,311 --> 01:27:52,246
hire full-time employee

2632
01:27:52,246 --> 01:27:53,214
thinking about those employees

2633
01:27:53,214 --> 01:27:55,216
who have seniority. This at a

2634
01:27:55,216 --> 01:27:59,416
high of a raid, then some that

2635
01:28:00,522 --> 01:28:01,322
way below or so. Is that

2636
01:28:01,322 --> 01:28:03,624
hapless apples? When we say

2637
01:28:03,624 --> 01:28:06,327
that we are paying less?

2638
01:28:06,327 --> 01:28:08,727
>> For the over time.

2639
01:28:09,264 --> 01:28:10,598
>> Then it is to actually hire

2640
01:28:10,598 --> 01:28:12,433
someone that we can utilize in

2641
01:28:12,433 --> 01:28:13,000
that space. She wears that

2642
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,168
balance is that was a

2643
01:28:14,168 --> 01:28:16,568
generalization. And let me

2644
01:28:17,472 --> 01:28:20,708
clarify if we had more sworn

2645
01:28:20,708 --> 01:28:21,776
officers, we would have more

2646
01:28:21,776 --> 01:28:23,578
officers available to cover

2647
01:28:23,578 --> 01:28:24,780
her, say the vacancies and the

2648
01:28:24,780 --> 01:28:25,880
that regular duty that we

2649
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,880
currently see. So that's where

2650
01:28:29,551 --> 01:28:30,152
that would come in to it. Come

2651
01:28:30,152 --> 01:28:30,852
into play. When we were

2652
01:28:30,852 --> 01:28:33,852
talking about what the status

2653
01:28:34,489 --> 01:28:36,458
is right now. That was the

2654
01:28:36,458 --> 01:28:37,192
comparison of the overtime

2655
01:28:37,192 --> 01:28:38,226
versus the full-time employee.

2656
01:28:38,226 --> 01:28:39,600
But if you have more full-time

2657
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,600
employees that gives us the

2658
01:28:42,798 --> 01:28:43,498
ability to have that at

2659
01:28:43,498 --> 01:28:45,801
backfill. So to speak, right?

2660
01:28:45,801 --> 01:28:47,135
Ok, thank And welcome. Could

2661
01:28:47,135 --> 01:28:49,705
could also chime in on that,

2662
01:28:49,705 --> 01:28:50,405
too, because, you know, we're

2663
01:28:50,405 --> 01:28:51,139
vacancy rate has fluctuated.

2664
01:28:51,139 --> 01:28:51,840
So and, you know, last 2

2665
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,942
decades, I know when I first

2666
01:28:53,942 --> 01:28:55,744
got here, no 6, we are under

2667
01:28:55,744 --> 01:28:57,120
Chief Roberts were running a

2668
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:57,879
very high vacancy rate back

2669
01:28:57,879 --> 01:28:58,580
then. But out of that had to

2670
01:28:58,580 --> 01:29:00,716
do with the fact that we are

2671
01:29:00,716 --> 01:29:02,151
in the middle of the war.

2672
01:29:02,151 --> 01:29:03,819
>> And a lot of the people who

2673
01:29:03,819 --> 01:29:05,200
would otherwise have been

2674
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,420
interested in becoming police

2675
01:29:07,823 --> 01:29:08,490
officers were over fighting in

2676
01:29:08,490 --> 01:29:09,191
Iraq it they weren't. They

2677
01:29:09,191 --> 01:29:10,459
weren't signing up to become

2678
01:29:10,459 --> 01:29:11,930
police officers. And so it was

2679
01:29:11,930 --> 01:29:13,396
very difficult for us to

2680
01:29:13,396 --> 01:29:14,497
recruit at that point in time.

2681
01:29:14,497 --> 01:29:15,197
Not too long ago. I think

2682
01:29:15,197 --> 01:29:17,333
within the last couple of

2683
01:29:17,333 --> 01:29:18,000
years we were at like 0

2684
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,368
vacancies. So I'm actually

2685
01:29:19,368 --> 01:29:20,636
surprised to hear we're back

2686
01:29:20,636 --> 01:29:21,304
up at 31. I mean, obviously we

2687
01:29:21,304 --> 01:29:23,339
have retirement. We've got

2688
01:29:23,339 --> 01:29:25,541
people in dropping so, but I

2689
01:29:25,541 --> 01:29:27,443
know I know statistically

2690
01:29:27,443 --> 01:29:29,450
speaking, it has been my

2691
01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:29,946
experience over last several

2692
01:29:29,946 --> 01:29:31,847
decades in various cities that

2693
01:29:31,847 --> 01:29:34,750
intends to run about 68%. Has

2694
01:29:34,750 --> 01:29:36,553
to be about that number,

2695
01:29:36,553 --> 01:29:37,253
right? So that's not unusual

2696
01:29:37,253 --> 01:29:39,322
to be to be roughly 6%, which

2697
01:29:39,322 --> 01:29:40,890
is where you are just in terms

2698
01:29:40,890 --> 01:29:43,890
of the pure vacancy number,

2699
01:29:43,693 --> 01:29:44,794
not county fmla. All right.

2700
01:29:44,794 --> 01:29:46,950
You know the the issue that

2701
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:48,950
Commissioner Glassman brought

2702
01:29:50,990 --> 01:29:50,967
up, there's there's there's

2703
01:29:50,967 --> 01:29:52,268
some truth to it, but not

2704
01:29:52,268 --> 01:29:54,938
entirely right. So we see this

2705
01:29:54,938 --> 01:29:57,207
a lot in the manufacturing

2706
01:29:57,207 --> 01:29:58,141
sector where, for example, on

2707
01:29:58,141 --> 01:29:58,742
the manufacturing line, your

2708
01:29:58,742 --> 01:29:59,709
Ford Motors and demand

2709
01:29:59,709 --> 01:30:00,643
increases and we want to

2710
01:30:00,643 --> 01:30:02,643
increase productivity,

2711
01:30:04,447 --> 01:30:05,615
production opportunity it's

2712
01:30:05,615 --> 01:30:08,840
cheaper to pay overtime on a

2713
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,120
production line to increase

2714
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:10,820
output that is to hire new

2715
01:30:10,820 --> 01:30:12,289
employees. But that's within

2716
01:30:12,289 --> 01:30:13,423
what we refer to as a relevant

2717
01:30:13,423 --> 01:30:14,524
range at a certain point that

2718
01:30:14,524 --> 01:30:16,460
no longer works for 2 reasons.

2719
01:30:16,460 --> 01:30:18,428
One, you spent too much on

2720
01:30:18,428 --> 01:30:20,497
overtime and to you burnt out

2721
01:30:20,497 --> 01:30:22,499
your employees, right? So

2722
01:30:22,499 --> 01:30:24,301
there's a significant decrease

2723
01:30:24,301 --> 01:30:26,303
and performance amongst your

2724
01:30:26,303 --> 01:30:27,371
staff when you start having

2725
01:30:27,371 --> 01:30:28,171
them work. Double shifts on

2726
01:30:28,171 --> 01:30:31,171
regular basis. So falls apart

2727
01:30:31,242 --> 01:30:34,478
at a certain point and also to

2728
01:30:34,478 --> 01:30:36,346
Commissioner Beasley pigments

2729
01:30:36,346 --> 01:30:37,470
point. If you have, you know,

2730
01:30:37,470 --> 01:30:39,447
sergeants and lieutenants out

2731
01:30:41,819 --> 01:30:43,287
there working overtime that

2732
01:30:43,287 --> 01:30:44,880
six-figure plus as opposed to,

2733
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,590
you your your new recruit out

2734
01:30:46,590 --> 01:30:48,559
there running and going on the

2735
01:30:48,559 --> 01:30:50,628
street. The numbers change

2736
01:30:50,628 --> 01:30:53,280
dramatically. So it's it's

2737
01:30:53,564 --> 01:30:54,265
it's a much more nuanced

2738
01:30:54,265 --> 01:30:54,966
question then simply overtime

2739
01:30:54,966 --> 01:30:56,367
to cheaper people. So I think

2740
01:30:56,367 --> 01:30:58,200
we need I think we need a much

2741
01:30:58,200 --> 01:30:58,736
more robust analysis on this

2742
01:30:58,736 --> 01:31:02,936
to to really have an answer to

2743
01:31:06,777 --> 01:31:09,981
that question. A great. Any of

2744
01:31:09,981 --> 01:31:10,682
the questions of the chief.

2745
01:31:10,682 --> 01:31:13,820
Thank you, chief. You're

2746
01:31:13,751 --> 01:31:14,452
welcome. And I will take this

2747
01:31:14,452 --> 01:31:16,852
opportunity, please thank and

2748
01:31:16,854 --> 01:31:17,488
commend my officers. They have

2749
01:31:17,488 --> 01:31:19,488
been working diligently,

2750
01:31:19,924 --> 01:31:22,324
especially over the 5 to 6

2751
01:31:22,327 --> 01:31:23,895
weeks of fifa World Cup I

2752
01:31:23,895 --> 01:31:25,129
unfortunately to cancel their

2753
01:31:25,129 --> 01:31:28,129
days off. Hopefully they are

2754
01:31:28,433 --> 01:31:29,167
given a buy now. But I do

2755
01:31:29,167 --> 01:31:30,969
enough or I didn't want to let

2756
01:31:30,969 --> 01:31:32,937
that parties their Exactly.

2757
01:31:32,937 --> 01:31:33,605
Okay. All right. Thank you,

2758
01:31:33,605 --> 01:31:37,205
chief on that on that point

2759
01:31:37,909 --> 01:31:39,778
about World Cup matches from

2760
01:31:39,778 --> 01:31:40,412
what I saw heard an

2761
01:31:40,412 --> 01:31:41,179
experience. You all did a

2762
01:31:41,179 --> 01:31:41,846
fantastic job. There So I just

2763
01:31:41,846 --> 01:31:45,446
want to give you thank you.

2764
01:31:47,552 --> 01:31:48,487
>> They did. Because there are

2765
01:31:48,487 --> 01:31:51,423
there are several instances in

2766
01:31:51,423 --> 01:31:52,524
my understanding where we have

2767
01:31:52,524 --> 01:31:53,258
large crowds gathered in

2768
01:31:53,258 --> 01:31:56,258
anticipate the size and scope.

2769
01:31:56,628 --> 01:31:57,295
And so just amazing job

2770
01:31:57,295 --> 01:32:00,295
officers that to handle so

2771
01:32:00,533 --> 01:32:02,567
well. So too, got some

2772
01:32:02,567 --> 01:32:03,735
feedback. Some my my friends

2773
01:32:03,735 --> 01:32:05,571
with the fbi. And they said

2774
01:32:05,571 --> 01:32:07,372
that the coordination and

2775
01:32:07,372 --> 01:32:08,407
collaboration was just

2776
01:32:08,407 --> 01:32:10,209
outstanding. So to all your

2777
01:32:10,209 --> 01:32:10,943
guys and good ladies against

2778
01:32:10,943 --> 01:32:13,144
thank you, Commissioner. Thank

2779
01:32:13,144 --> 01:32:13,879
you, Jus. Thank you, Jacob.

2780
01:32:13,879 --> 01:32:17,149
>> MR. All you want to proceed

2781
01:32:17,149 --> 01:32:17,916
with Yuri presentation? We

2782
01:32:17,916 --> 01:32:18,617
have to wrap this up soon. We

2783
01:32:18,617 --> 01:32:21,170
have 2 other meetings related

2784
01:32:26,425 --> 01:32:27,660
thank you. The next. The next

2785
01:32:27,660 --> 01:32:28,327
item is couple improvement

2786
01:32:28,327 --> 01:32:28,928
plan. You know, again this

2787
01:32:28,928 --> 01:32:31,328
this is something I've

2788
01:32:33,980 --> 01:32:33,799
mentioned past, but regarding

2789
01:32:33,799 --> 01:32:35,935
projects starting projects in

2790
01:32:35,935 --> 01:32:37,935
completing projects in.

2791
01:32:42,308 --> 01:32:43,342
>> Additional.

2792
01:32:43,342 --> 01:32:45,742
>> Change orders and delays

2793
01:32:46,512 --> 01:32:47,213
having big significant effect

2794
01:32:47,213 --> 01:32:48,247
on the amount that's added to

2795
01:32:48,247 --> 01:32:49,150
the cost of these these

2796
01:32:49,150 --> 01:32:52,150
projects. And I think, you

2797
01:32:54,540 --> 01:32:55,388
know, we've made some. Strikes

2798
01:32:55,388 --> 01:32:56,356
this year because we've broken

2799
01:32:56,356 --> 01:32:59,158
out that department, there's a

2800
01:32:59,158 --> 01:33:00,893
lot more activity gone. Money

2801
01:33:00,893 --> 01:33:02,762
is transferred to cip to move

2802
01:33:02,762 --> 01:33:03,663
some of older projects to get

2803
01:33:03,663 --> 01:33:04,397
those because, you know, the

2804
01:33:04,397 --> 01:33:06,320
longer you wait, it's going to

2805
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,602
cost more. So, you know, so

2806
01:33:09,602 --> 01:33:10,403
some of the some of the

2807
01:33:10,403 --> 01:33:12,605
examples that we we saw listed

2808
01:33:12,605 --> 01:33:13,573
it in my in my memo. But, you

2809
01:33:13,573 --> 01:33:17,173
know, we have some, you know,

2810
01:33:17,777 --> 01:33:19,777
significant change orders

2811
01:33:19,779 --> 01:33:20,947
related to the water and sewer

2812
01:33:20,947 --> 01:33:21,848
projects that we had to

2813
01:33:21,848 --> 01:33:22,649
increase and some couple

2814
01:33:22,649 --> 01:33:23,350
things that the water

2815
01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:26,350
treatment plant. We have some

2816
01:33:27,821 --> 01:33:28,955
things with parks and bond

2817
01:33:28,955 --> 01:33:29,756
projects. As you know, we've

2818
01:33:29,756 --> 01:33:30,957
definitely of understated what

2819
01:33:30,957 --> 01:33:31,658
we really needed for that been

2820
01:33:31,658 --> 01:33:34,394
a lot of it is because it was

2821
01:33:34,394 --> 01:33:35,950
long delay and designed in

2822
01:33:35,950 --> 01:33:37,197
getting things getting things

2823
01:33:37,197 --> 01:33:38,999
rolling getting in the

2824
01:33:38,999 --> 01:33:39,666
construction. So that's kind

2825
01:33:39,666 --> 01:33:42,666
of general comments on cip

2826
01:33:44,138 --> 01:33:45,739
area. Next item Reserves.

2827
01:33:45,739 --> 01:33:48,139
General fund unrestricted fund

2828
01:33:48,409 --> 01:33:50,100
balance again. We talk about

2829
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:51,512
this often the reserve balance

2830
01:33:51,512 --> 01:33:53,647
for municipality. As for the

2831
01:33:53,647 --> 01:33:55,820
government Finance Officers

2832
01:33:55,820 --> 01:33:56,918
Association having

2833
01:33:56,918 --> 01:33:58,918
expenditures of approximately

2834
01:34:00,922 --> 01:34:01,789
16.7 percent of your revenues

2835
01:34:01,789 --> 01:34:03,190
expenditures. The city has

2836
01:34:03,190 --> 01:34:05,590
established a reserve balance

2837
01:34:07,361 --> 01:34:07,995
of 25% of the expenditures as

2838
01:34:07,995 --> 01:34:10,395
2 months trying to get 2

2839
01:34:11,599 --> 01:34:12,933
months of reserve and and keep

2840
01:34:12,933 --> 01:34:14,802
it the restricted balance,

2841
01:34:14,802 --> 01:34:17,400
unrestricted at a reasonable

2842
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:17,838
rate during that review of the

2843
01:34:17,838 --> 01:34:18,472
budget to see it was able to

2844
01:34:18,472 --> 01:34:20,775
confirm that the current

2845
01:34:20,775 --> 01:34:22,810
balance of the of bounce for

2846
01:34:22,810 --> 01:34:24,846
the city or the monetary

2847
01:34:24,846 --> 01:34:26,447
difference. It's an excess of

2848
01:34:26,447 --> 01:34:28,847
the 25% that we've established

2849
01:34:28,916 --> 01:34:31,316
by 2%. And that represents

2850
01:34:34,756 --> 01:34:35,890
approximately 9.7 million

2851
01:34:35,890 --> 01:34:37,250
dollars in additional funds

2852
01:34:37,250 --> 01:34:37,692
that they could be used for.

2853
01:34:37,692 --> 01:34:40,228
You know, various things is

2854
01:34:40,228 --> 01:34:43,228
pay down debt, possibly paying

2855
01:34:45,667 --> 01:34:46,668
down the. Cola increase that

2856
01:34:46,668 --> 01:34:47,469
we had last year for the

2857
01:34:47,469 --> 01:34:48,203
General employees, retirement

2858
01:34:48,203 --> 01:34:50,138
system, pension plan. And

2859
01:34:50,138 --> 01:34:52,140
there's other things mention

2860
01:34:52,140 --> 01:34:55,740
even the allocating some of it

2861
01:34:56,311 --> 01:34:57,746
to a new fire station, which

2862
01:34:57,746 --> 01:34:59,814
had somewhat to do with that.

2863
01:34:59,814 --> 01:35:00,482
You know that we have to pay

2864
01:35:00,482 --> 01:35:01,683
for the assessments of fire

2865
01:35:01,683 --> 01:35:04,830
assessments. We've added fire

2866
01:35:06,121 --> 01:35:06,788
stations in there. So that

2867
01:35:06,788 --> 01:35:09,788
could reduce future of fire

2868
01:35:13,862 --> 01:35:15,130
assessment fees. Then no, it

2869
01:35:15,130 --> 01:35:16,899
the last thing I just wanted

2870
01:35:16,899 --> 01:35:17,599
to go versus the union

2871
01:35:17,599 --> 01:35:18,233
negotiations know as you need

2872
01:35:18,233 --> 01:35:21,233
to go since are currently

2873
01:35:22,638 --> 01:35:23,439
underway. You know, we feel

2874
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,439
that at this point interesting

2875
01:35:26,508 --> 01:35:28,610
because at this point time

2876
01:35:28,610 --> 01:35:29,912
even there's only one really

2877
01:35:29,912 --> 01:35:32,912
union left to go and

2878
01:35:33,782 --> 01:35:36,182
successfully got those 2 of

2879
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,520
them completed before expired.

2880
01:35:40,623 --> 01:35:43,526
Richard in our standing as

2881
01:35:43,526 --> 01:35:44,360
this state, the fire is is

2882
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:45,600
coming forward with a

2883
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,196
tentative agreement today. So

2884
01:35:47,196 --> 01:35:50,196
it's really mainly with the

2885
01:35:51,934 --> 01:35:52,635
police departments.

2886
01:35:52,635 --> 01:35:53,869
Negotiations. And, you know,

2887
01:35:53,869 --> 01:35:57,239
we had a mention with meetings

2888
01:35:57,239 --> 01:35:57,940
with budget and city manager,

2889
01:35:57,940 --> 01:36:00,940
some ideas while that's still

2890
01:36:00,977 --> 01:36:03,977
open, that could be a.

2891
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:05,782
Considered there. We're just,

2892
01:36:05,782 --> 01:36:06,883
you know, hoping that, you

2893
01:36:06,883 --> 01:36:10,586
know, we can get that one done

2894
01:36:10,586 --> 01:36:11,854
before SEPTEMBER. 30th 2026.

2895
01:36:11,854 --> 01:36:15,580
But, you know, not sure if

2896
01:36:15,580 --> 01:36:16,293
that's still possible, but,

2897
01:36:16,293 --> 01:36:17,460
you know, one of the things

2898
01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:21,600
that we have mentioned in the

2899
01:36:21,297 --> 01:36:21,898
passes that the idea of and

2900
01:36:21,898 --> 01:36:22,599
I've seen others, other

2901
01:36:22,599 --> 01:36:23,767
cities, some other cities do

2902
01:36:23,767 --> 01:36:27,771
of some of the city. Stone is

2903
01:36:27,771 --> 01:36:29,506
have a point in time where you

2904
01:36:29,506 --> 01:36:32,506
won't be ready to actively

2905
01:36:35,245 --> 01:36:36,546
paying the changes to to the.

2906
01:36:36,546 --> 01:36:37,247
Increases are showers and

2907
01:36:37,247 --> 01:36:38,382
that. This year we're trying

2908
01:36:38,382 --> 01:36:41,382
to encourage to get everything

2909
01:36:42,385 --> 01:36:44,888
in by the, you know, maturity

2910
01:36:44,888 --> 01:36:45,956
of the existing contract. But

2911
01:36:45,956 --> 01:36:46,623
that's something that MAY be

2912
01:36:46,623 --> 01:36:47,991
kind of look at what we're

2913
01:36:47,991 --> 01:36:50,494
still negotiating to see if we

2914
01:36:50,494 --> 01:36:51,194
can speed that ups because

2915
01:36:51,194 --> 01:36:52,396
believe the last time it went

2916
01:36:52,396 --> 01:36:54,796
3 years before we finalize

2917
01:36:56,233 --> 01:36:58,969
the. The contract and it was

2918
01:36:58,969 --> 01:36:59,837
retroactive for 3 years. So

2919
01:36:59,837 --> 01:37:01,505
those are the kind of the many

2920
01:37:01,505 --> 01:37:04,505
things that just last they

2921
01:37:04,942 --> 01:37:05,943
like the recognize the office

2922
01:37:05,943 --> 01:37:08,943
of Management Budget. The that

2923
01:37:09,647 --> 01:37:12,470
Matthews recent their staff

2924
01:37:12,516 --> 01:37:15,486
helping us go through process

2925
01:37:15,486 --> 01:37:17,388
of reviewing the budget. And I

2926
01:37:17,388 --> 01:37:19,757
also have our staff City

2927
01:37:19,757 --> 01:37:20,357
staff, that they're a great

2928
01:37:20,357 --> 01:37:22,590
job in putting that all

2929
01:37:22,590 --> 01:37:22,660
together. And I guess I think

2930
01:37:22,660 --> 01:37:24,929
Joey's for giving us a

2931
01:37:24,929 --> 01:37:26,964
courtside seats over I the

2932
01:37:26,964 --> 01:37:29,364
thing with everybody, though.

2933
01:37:35,473 --> 01:37:38,376
So. At this address any

2934
01:37:38,376 --> 01:37:39,100
questions you MAY have anyone

2935
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:41,410
else have any additional

2936
01:37:42,413 --> 01:37:43,648
questions of MR. Brown.

2937
01:37:43,648 --> 01:37:44,315
>> They're being none. Thank

2938
01:37:44,315 --> 01:37:45,783
you. Thank you so much for

2939
01:37:45,783 --> 01:37:47,840
your great working for the

2940
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:47,719
team that you work with. We

2941
01:37:47,719 --> 01:37:48,453
appreciate. Is that that

2942
01:37:48,453 --> 01:37:51,550
Matthew's here? I don't see it

2943
01:37:51,550 --> 01:37:51,756
they went back. Okay. All

2944
01:37:51,756 --> 01:37:54,756
right. Great. Thank you, Pat.

2945
01:37:56,661 --> 01:37:57,262
Thank you so much. This is

2946
01:37:57,262 --> 01:37:57,962
city manager. Does that

2947
01:37:57,962 --> 01:37:58,000
conclude our presentation and