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>> Good morning. I will call

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our budget work session to

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order. Happy Friday to

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everyone. And I'll turn it over

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to Jay Chapa.

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>> Good morning, everyone.

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So you should have received

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an e-mail last night with

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budget responses from Tuesday.

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The information that we hope we

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covered the information the

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council asked for.

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One of the hearing, a second on

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the nas brave to come up and

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go through the presentation is

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put together the overall impact

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to our ratepayers and

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taxpayers. From the individual

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fees. But one of the items in

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the budget responses, the list

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of

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services that council read up

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on Tuesday concerns about the

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cuts in the impacts. And asked,

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allowed to work with the

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individual department heads

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to come together to put.

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What it would look like to

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bring back positions that are

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being impacted are programs

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that are being impacted to

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lessen the services. That's in

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your budget response. Boak.

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But the response you received

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and I just laid out your spot.

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Cost the equivalent for each of

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those areas along with the

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tax rate equivalent. If the

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the desire was to increase the

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tax rate. So the tax rate

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equivalent for each of those

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items the total one of the

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things that I did include that

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then come on Tuesday. But I've

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had several council members

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bring up to me. Was pay for

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performance or general

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employees.

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And so we included that this

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would be still having to start

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have made here. But it be 4 and

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a half percent.

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Average for everyone, not

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executive below assistant

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director and a 4% versus

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indirect or not.

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This, what's the equipment and

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hear what had included that

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for you? So you could see what

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the impact is there. But with

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that, I'm gonna as Brady come

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up and go through his

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presentation.

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>> Good morning, mayor and

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council Brady Kirk says

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director with the Fort Worth

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lab. So on Tuesday we gave you

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a very, very long report that

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included all of the fees which

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were recommended to change in

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Fy 27. But today we're coming

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to you with a much shorter and

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more focused overview of just

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those fees and rates. Which

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impact every resident that

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lives in the city. And be on

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property taxes. It's really

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a short list. So we're only

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talking about the storm water

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fee. Water and wastewater

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rates. Solid waste rates and

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the environmental fee.

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And then at the end go through

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those and how that's going to

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affect the total cost to

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residents on annual or monthly

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basis. I'll give you one quick

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summaries well of any other

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fees, depending on which city

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services resident chooses to

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engage with, they might have

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to pay.

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Starting with property taxes.

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I think you seen this these

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figures many times already.

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But within the recommended

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budget, there's a 3.2% increase

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to the tax rate, which is about

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5%. And that 5% tax rate

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increase since that's smaller

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than the amount we've lost on

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the taxable value of an average

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home. That means that on

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average homeowner in the city

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would pay less to the city in

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Fy 27 in fy. 26. So that amount

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is about $16 and $0.69 per

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year. And not that people pay

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their property taxes on a

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monthly basis. But if if you

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break that up over 12, that's

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about. $1.39 per month. So that

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a one percent decrease.

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The storm water fee. We showed

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you in JUNE that we are

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recommending 85% that fee and

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that's to help fund some flood

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mitigation projects. Increase

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Capital Project Partnership

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participation and Channel last

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it management position. And

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so that 5% increase is going

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to be $0.36 for a typical home

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on the monthly water bill.

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the year, that's about $4 and

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$0.32

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And moving into water and sewer

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rates. So on the water side.

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There's a about a 5% increase

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to the fixed monthly charge.

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increase to the volumetric rate

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and that is for the cost of

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service. So. Really, for all

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these funds. After the property

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tax. None of these are general

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fund fees. So for water storm

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water, all the others.

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The revenue that they are and

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pays for the service itself.

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And so this like the other ones

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is is to pay for the cost of

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service. So on the water side,

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only that's about $0.70 per

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month to an average homeowner.

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Dollars and $0.45 per year,

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which is less than 2%.

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There's a similar increase.

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Closer to 6% on the fixed

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charge. And then there is a

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small less than one percent

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increase to a typical homeowner

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on the volumetric rate. So

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those 2 combined would be about

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$0.63 per month or 7.50, per

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year, which is very similar,

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a little bit less than 2%.

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On solid waste. It's a little

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bit larger cause we're focusing

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on.

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The long-term outlook at this

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fund. And we've talked to you

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about whether or not the

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current solid waste rates that

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people are paying are really

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enough to pay holistically for

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the service that they're

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getting in. That service

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includes long-term capital

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planning. So.

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This is a recommended 20% to a

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typical household with a 96

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gallon cart that the $5.15 per

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month. Which is a little bit

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less than $62 annually.

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environmental fee, which is

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a another funds separate from

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the solid waste fund. On this

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front. We're recommending about

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an 11% That's one quarter per

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month and $3 per year to

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typical household.

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So when you sum that all up,

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you can compare that to city

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managers recommended tax rate

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of 70.2 cents. But also take

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into account how the taxable

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value of a typical home has

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fallen. You've got about a one

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percent decrease to the

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property tax bill, which is

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more than half of the whole

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equation. The typical homeowner

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is going to be paying. And a

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6.6% increased to what people

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are going to be paying on

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average on that monthly water

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bill. And what it all shakes

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out to is a little bit less

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than a.

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2% increased annually. So

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that's $5.70 per month that the

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typical household might see.

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And a little bit more than $68

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over the course of the year.

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And moving into other fees.

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These are not fees. The typical

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person would pay in the course

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there are daily lives, but

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out of that 150 pages,

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probably.

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100 and something was just

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development fees because

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there's so many development

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permits. So the development

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services department is

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instituting about 5% on average

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across the board fee increase.

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And due to rounding or whether

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there are specific cost

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recovery consideration. Some

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of these mining increased by a

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little bit more than 5%.

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But the good news is that this

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increase was done with the

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support of the Development

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Advisory committee and the Real

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Estate Council with whom

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Deejays Department works very

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closely.

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And these aren't 100% only in

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development services. They also

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there are development fees that

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other departments collect.

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So, for example, there's a fire

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alarm permanent that the fire

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department, Lex. But these are

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not something that a resident

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would pay normally. Maybe if

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you are buying a brand-new

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built house, this might affect

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you. If you're doing a major

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home repair.

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But I talked to dj and he said

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that on a typical home, this 5%

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across the board increase.

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Would affect the cost of a

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newly built home by less than

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$100. So out of hundreds of

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thousands, that's a very small

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portion that cost.

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And then getting into some

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other fees which residents MAY

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pay if they want to use the

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services. A lot of the balance

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of the fee increases were in

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golf just because they had so

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many categories for the very

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services that they provide.

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So for the first one where

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parks and recreation overall is

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what I meant to say for the

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first one is golf. And that's

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an increase to the junior past

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fee. In golf. Just like those

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other funds. We talked about

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water, storm water. That's the

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fun where.

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The revenues that the Gulf and

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collects pays for the cost.

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Golf services. So this is just

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cost recovery. These other

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categories would be in the

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general fund. So for community

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centers, there's a lot of fees

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increasing. There's a lot of

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fees decreasing. It's part of

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the study the department did.

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And just overall streamlining

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these and trying to make it a

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little bit more efficient and

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straightforward and then some

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similar changes to the other

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services. So the Log Cabin

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Village, for example. The

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nature center, if you want to

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have a birthday party, one of

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our community centers or if

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you're taking part in athletic

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league, some of those might

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have gone. It.

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Before we leave this and I want

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to throw you off your pace if

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you prefer to take questions.

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At the end, I making notes.

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>> But on the other fee

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increase categories, I do want

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to get some more detail as far

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as the increase of junior past

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fees and how that impacts

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clumps. And right now we've got

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first team down there. We also

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have a high school days clubs

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that come in. They're rely on

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Rockwood, for instance, my

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council district 2. Your

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practice or programs Reiser.

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And I know in the past they

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have a told me and I

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communicated this to to Dave

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Lewis as well.

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They're concerned, you know,

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about the fees and now we're

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proposing an I'm wondering what

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kind of effect that's going to

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have on them.

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>> Nast data company already

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is.

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Good Morning Council Dave

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Lewis, director Park and

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Recreation. Yeah, really.

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There's a few things going on

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there. So we as with all fees,

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we benchmark coffees in each

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fall in order to prepare fee

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changes.

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With the junior few. We found

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that there are only 2 other

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municipalities are courses near

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road courses in our vicinity.

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That even offer a junior

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passed. And like with all of

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our fees, we strive to be the

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median for that. And so raising

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that he gets median first, he

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has its own feet in the range.

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And do we have with the

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construction of the building?

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We also through near local

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green that we offer isd.

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He's a special rate as well.

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Some of them were taking

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advantage of the junior golf

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annual pass because it is much

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lower. Then the fee that we

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offer them as a discount to be

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on the course. But really the

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the increase in the junior

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annual past. We should not

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affect either the first he or I

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see because we have special

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pricing for them.

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>> Talk about

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>> fees for the increase for

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birthday parties that it has

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that risen substantially are.

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>> Yeah, I think birthday

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parties are mostly at forward.

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They've sent a refuge where

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they actually didn't have a

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birthday party fee before Fs

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a few men. Tulsa, lot of this

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is just clean up. We want to

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for fees are in accordance with

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the ordinance. So it's just

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cleaning up what we do changing

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the title of some things.

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But again, it's all

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benchmarking and community

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centers log Cabin Village, 4th

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data center, the benchmark, all

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their fees against similar

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facilities in the region and

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across the state.

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>> Can you send us the new

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rate?

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Is it somewhere gets in the

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packzi that 2 days ago with

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okay these nights and that

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separately 271 page. Yes, it's

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a good thing. That's the

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400 page. Okay. Yeah. Just just

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for the I want to make sure

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when we talk about the fees

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that are changing at the nature

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center.

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>> Is that is that include the

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non resident and increase and

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fees or did we talk about that?

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Is that having no?

394
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>> Yeah, we have not. We've

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changed a number of fees, but

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we avoided a non resident few

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because it is a tourism

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facilities. We do. We want to

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make sure they're in a case

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that attracted to people who

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don't live in the city to city.

402
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>> But we are the and the

403
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Veterans Free Access. Okay.

404
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Thank you.

405
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>> Ready, I don't think you

406
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got to it yet or maybe barely

407
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mentioned at the fire

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department lift assist. I know

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that's been a topic from

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several council members.

411
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So I don't know. It said if she

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forton tear anybody wants to

413
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speak to that decision, that

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would be helpful.

415
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>> I think you're going to get

416
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Christine's in more detail on

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that of public safety Committee

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near future.

419
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>> We didn't have a fee.

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So we wanted to include a fi Yi

421
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where where that forward and so

422
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that the public Safety

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committee was going to get a

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full presentation on that.

425
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To see if they want to

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recommend lifting the Senate

427
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even more what you want to do

428
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it going forward. But when will

429
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that briefing happened on

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public safety? The beauty and

431
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SEPTEMBER.

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Its next It would. And I guess

433
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I'm just backing up in time.

434
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Is that going to be before

435
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these decisions are made the

436
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budget? So we're not going over

437
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increasing more me on 7.50, or

438
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not. Yes, we should be able

439
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to and just then make the

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amendment for the budget

441
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ordinance. Okay.

442
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Cuts were larger to a speech

443
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that Al, you're welcome to.

444
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I don't know that the more for

445
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it. And just to go ahead and

446
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just skip public safety

447
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committee altogether does bring

448
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us to go to work. And then as

449
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mayor and council for decision

450
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because I'm pretty sure that's

451
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something we can.

452
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>> We're all going to be up to

453
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get behind because it's

454
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something that's been needed

455
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for quite some time to question

456
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on the amount. So staff are

457
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recommending the 7.50, but we

458
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want to take it to you all to

459
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see if you guys wanted to make

460
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it even higher.

461
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>> And that is public safety

462
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committee and it will it'll

463
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be whatever the committee

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recommends will add that into

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the budget ordinance that gets

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approved. And then from there

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after that after because they

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didn't want it to work session

469
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or from just re district budget

470
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that straight to the budget.

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Whatever recommendation will

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put it in today as a budget

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recommendation, you know, going

474
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straight into the ordinance,

475
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it'll get approved and they'll

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be the new fee. Whatever's most

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remind process to get that.

478
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Yeah. That sounds great to have

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you back. Comes on. The council

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brought it up.

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>> Related to this on the next

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slide. We have the ms fee

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increase at an existing fee.

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So would that be also taken

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on by the Public Safety

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Committee of errors as well for

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yeah. Yeah. I think that can be

488
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discussed as well. Right?

489
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Thank you. Cross an awesome.

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I both points for me.

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>> Next one, the municipal

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court fees. So there are some

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new fees that involve civil

494
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parking. There's a a technology

495
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fee to support that in and one

496
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of the one related civil

497
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parking. And there's a an

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increase to the booth fee.

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These are city services.

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You do not want to engage with.

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If you can avoid it. And then

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credit card fees. Last year

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we authorize the city to let

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vendors just pass those fees

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directly on to end users.

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So instead of

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taking them is revenue paying

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them out of our own pocket.

509
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We're just letting the end

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users pay for those. So we

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authorized 2 and a half percent

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last year because that was

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enough for existing city

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vendors. There's a couple

515
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vendors that. If we were going

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to passes on, there would be a

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little bit higher than 2%.

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So we're recommending.

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Giving authority to go up to

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the statewide maximum, which is

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5%.

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And then finally be on the

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solid waste, monthly charges

524
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that you saw. There are a few

525
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extra fees on there. If you

526
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have something like an

527
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overloaded cart, there's an

528
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extra charge for that bags

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outside the card. I think

530
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that's the one where we had.

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Something funny, like 12 of

532
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them in the whole city and all

533
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year. But that is going to and

534
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then nothing out trips to where

535
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if you've requested, pick up

536
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and then you're not there for

537
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them to come get it, that he is

538
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increasing as well.

539
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>> Brady, do you know what the

540
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actual collection charges for a

541
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credit card company? What

542
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percentage?

543
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>> So for ours.

544
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>> Are you talking about the

545
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there?

546
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>> On what they're passing on

547
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us. And we're not gonna pass on

548
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to customers. Typically it's

549
00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:54,970
3%, but they're so last year

550
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the council approved us

551
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allowing a direct charge.

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A pass to so that when a person

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pays the they pay with a credit

554
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card, they would pay that fee,

555
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whether it's 2% to have actual

556
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feeds, not an upcharge it off

557
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in the city. The issue is not

558
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all our systems or other

559
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systems. Again, are getting

560
00:18:10,956 --> 00:18:12,524
upgraded. And we have some.

561
00:18:12,524 --> 00:18:15,494
The vendor charges. More than

562
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3% up to 5%. Sometimes 3 and

563
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a half. So we're having to

564
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cover the difference. So we're

565
00:18:20,899 --> 00:18:21,367
just trying to get.

566
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Requests be made whole

567
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completely basically making the

568
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money just to be a baby.

569
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And so it's it's just the

570
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actual cost. Some of them are

571
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4%. That's what we have.

572
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Multiple vendors.

573
00:18:33,478 --> 00:18:33,946
On the system's. It's a it's

574
00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:34,514
like

575
00:18:34,514 --> 00:18:35,648
you have a different vendor,

576
00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:38,648
for instance, on the water

577
00:18:38,750 --> 00:18:39,352
side, then you have. On the

578
00:18:39,352 --> 00:18:42,355
city said you don't do because

579
00:18:42,355 --> 00:18:44,490
of the system's the types of

580
00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:45,625
systems that are used.

581
00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,727
>> Just to understand. So

582
00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:49,629
you're saying a flat fee of

583
00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:51,631
5%, no matter which system

584
00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:52,231
they're accessing. Our do know

585
00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:54,132
it will be a charge. The will

586
00:18:54,132 --> 00:18:54,833
be charges stated with the with

587
00:18:54,833 --> 00:18:55,434
the system. Exactly. And and

588
00:18:55,434 --> 00:18:58,305
all of them. We went up to 5%

589
00:18:58,305 --> 00:18:58,905
because we don't have any that

590
00:18:58,905 --> 00:18:59,538
are well state doesn't let us

591
00:18:59,538 --> 00:19:02,541
go to 5% were just trying to be

592
00:19:02,541 --> 00:19:05,711
made whole from the city side.

593
00:19:05,711 --> 00:19:08,111
I think that's okay.

594
00:19:11,819 --> 00:19:13,152
>> Any questions or comments

595
00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:16,752
on the summary if Ian rates

596
00:19:17,124 --> 00:19:18,224
right now, yes, cause before

597
00:19:18,224 --> 00:19:18,825
>> I do forget which one it

598
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:19,592
was. I think I know the answer

599
00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:23,463
to this, but I just want to

600
00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:25,164
confirmation solid waste charge

601
00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:28,164
slide 6. There's a nasty note

602
00:19:28,468 --> 00:19:29,303
based on typical home using

603
00:19:29,303 --> 00:19:30,837
96 gallon cart.

604
00:19:30,837 --> 00:19:32,738
Does that also inclusive of

605
00:19:32,738 --> 00:19:35,138
the recycling Curtis? Well,

606
00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:39,675
yes, sir. Thank you. That's it.

607
00:19:43,249 --> 00:19:43,783
Everybody gets recycled part

608
00:19:43,783 --> 00:19:45,783
with that.

609
00:19:47,721 --> 00:19:48,287
First and second because the

610
00:19:48,287 --> 00:19:48,856
96 cart, you know, our size

611
00:19:48,856 --> 00:19:51,724
rather, I mean, you have an

612
00:19:51,724 --> 00:19:55,324
option to upgrade to a larger.

613
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:56,963
Council. Looks like you also

614
00:19:56,963 --> 00:19:57,564
have updated budget responses

615
00:19:57,564 --> 00:19:58,131
in your packet. If we want to

616
00:19:58,131 --> 00:20:00,531
have Christian walk through

617
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,269
those that might be helpful.

618
00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:05,669
>> Sure thing. Good morning,

619
00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:06,640
mayor and council Christine

620
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,642
Simmons with the 4th lab.

621
00:20:08,642 --> 00:20:09,709
So just 3 budget responses in

622
00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:10,810
your packet last night. The

623
00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:13,780
first is an updated version of

624
00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:14,280
the vacancy, eliminations and

625
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,280
freezes budget response.

626
00:20:16,516 --> 00:20:17,151
Adding in the column for the

627
00:20:17,151 --> 00:20:19,253
total team personnel and the

628
00:20:19,253 --> 00:20:20,853
number of those positions that

629
00:20:20,853 --> 00:20:21,288
occur across the department

630
00:20:21,288 --> 00:20:22,755
now as unresponsive

631
00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:24,755
Councilmember Flores's

632
00:20:24,824 --> 00:20:26,560
question, maybe others about,

633
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,930
you know, what kind of team

634
00:20:27,930 --> 00:20:27,728
strength is left. If we do

635
00:20:27,728 --> 00:20:30,728
eliminate or freeze a position.

636
00:20:31,931 --> 00:20:32,533
So that date is there for you.

637
00:20:32,533 --> 00:20:35,533
The second budget response is

638
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:37,237
about gas lease revenue gas

639
00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:39,305
while revenue outlines the

640
00:20:39,305 --> 00:20:40,373
policy and our typical process

641
00:20:40,373 --> 00:20:41,441
for appropriating those funds

642
00:20:41,441 --> 00:20:42,900
and a little bit of the history

643
00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:45,110
of kind of what the order of

644
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:48,110
magnitude of those funds has

645
00:20:48,849 --> 00:20:50,849
looked like.

646
00:20:50,918 --> 00:20:51,485
And then the 3rd budget

647
00:20:51,485 --> 00:20:52,319
response is the one that Jay

648
00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:53,921
mentioned where we worked with

649
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:56,921
a couple of select departments

650
00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:58,158
based on your questions Tuesday

651
00:20:58,158 --> 00:20:58,759
to ask them, you know, with

652
00:20:58,759 --> 00:21:01,759
it with judiciously, like what

653
00:21:02,996 --> 00:21:04,398
positions would you add back?

654
00:21:04,398 --> 00:21:04,933
Knowing we're balancing the

655
00:21:04,933 --> 00:21:06,300
budget, but really looking

656
00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:08,435
again at the service level

657
00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:09,970
impacts for the programs that

658
00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:11,573
has asked about and that we've

659
00:21:11,573 --> 00:21:14,573
been hearing sort of similar

660
00:21:15,175 --> 00:21:17,575
themes in the community

661
00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:19,214
meetings. And so you'll see

662
00:21:19,214 --> 00:21:20,247
Code Development Services,

663
00:21:20,247 --> 00:21:22,283
Library, parks and recreation

664
00:21:22,283 --> 00:21:23,250
and transportation and public

665
00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:24,183
works. Each of those directors

666
00:21:24,183 --> 00:21:24,718
and staff sort over the last

667
00:21:24,718 --> 00:21:27,955
couple of days to say if I

668
00:21:27,955 --> 00:21:28,589
could add something back here

669
00:21:28,589 --> 00:21:29,189
is what it would be. And then

670
00:21:29,189 --> 00:21:31,590
the 4th lab staff layered and

671
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:33,127
some serviceable impacts that

672
00:21:33,127 --> 00:21:33,727
we gathered from the

673
00:21:33,727 --> 00:21:35,950
departments and we produce the

674
00:21:35,950 --> 00:21:36,263
handout that you have, which

675
00:21:36,263 --> 00:21:37,364
is the tax rate equivalent of

676
00:21:37,364 --> 00:21:40,400
adding those back so that you

677
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,680
can kind of have this menu in

678
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:41,603
front of you and say, you know,

679
00:21:41,603 --> 00:21:44,300
these are really important

680
00:21:44,271 --> 00:21:46,941
things and know how that would

681
00:21:46,941 --> 00:21:47,441
affect the tax rate. And again,

682
00:21:47,441 --> 00:21:50,441
the one item that's not

683
00:21:50,444 --> 00:21:53,280
>> written up as the pay for

684
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,249
performance fees.

685
00:21:55,249 --> 00:21:56,484
And the total all the items

686
00:21:56,484 --> 00:21:58,218
would be impacted. 0.3, 6, 4,

687
00:21:58,218 --> 00:22:00,618
3, 9, 1, which would still put

688
00:22:01,356 --> 00:22:01,855
the average bill lesson.

689
00:22:01,855 --> 00:22:04,255
The current year's bill.

690
00:22:05,859 --> 00:22:06,493
But it basically lessons of

691
00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:10,930
by half. It would be $8 for $16

692
00:22:12,766 --> 00:22:13,801
that was added to the tax rate.

693
00:22:13,801 --> 00:22:15,804
And act. Talk about.

694
00:22:15,804 --> 00:22:17,971
>> The 7 positions for the

695
00:22:17,971 --> 00:22:20,207
public safety communicate or 2,

696
00:22:20,207 --> 00:22:20,774
that 7 out of 13 just so people

697
00:22:20,774 --> 00:22:22,774
understand what's happening

698
00:22:23,144 --> 00:22:23,577
there.

699
00:22:23,577 --> 00:22:25,977
>> Sure. So that so

700
00:22:26,380 --> 00:22:27,481
traditionally that area has a

701
00:22:27,481 --> 00:22:30,684
lot of turnover. And so we have

702
00:22:30,684 --> 00:22:31,319
typically 7 to 10 positions

703
00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:32,754
that are they can all the time.

704
00:22:32,754 --> 00:22:34,122
We're always recruiting.

705
00:22:34,122 --> 00:22:34,922
We're still recruiting now.

706
00:22:34,922 --> 00:22:37,322
We still have vacancies.

707
00:22:39,494 --> 00:22:40,861
And so the idea was just to.

708
00:22:40,861 --> 00:22:41,396
Not fund the salaries so that

709
00:22:41,396 --> 00:22:44,396
we could have that savings

710
00:22:44,432 --> 00:22:45,600
because they're basically

711
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,600
always vacant anyway.

712
00:22:49,471 --> 00:22:50,238
>> Library page position.

713
00:22:50,238 --> 00:22:51,272
It says there's 12 positions

714
00:22:51,272 --> 00:22:54,272
but total 6 on the team.

715
00:22:54,542 --> 00:22:57,644
And so I'm confused about how

716
00:22:57,644 --> 00:22:59,644
that.

717
00:22:59,848 --> 00:23:00,381
Yes, you'd add those together.

718
00:23:00,381 --> 00:23:02,650
So we're at much amending

719
00:23:02,650 --> 00:23:03,251
freezing 12. There are 6

720
00:23:03,251 --> 00:23:06,851
additional and then sort of us

721
00:23:07,222 --> 00:23:07,723
across the whole department

722
00:23:07,723 --> 00:23:09,858
there. 41 pages and then

723
00:23:09,858 --> 00:23:10,492
libraries response this week.

724
00:23:10,492 --> 00:23:11,126
They did ask to add back just a

725
00:23:11,126 --> 00:23:13,862
couple of those for consistency

726
00:23:13,862 --> 00:23:17,462
in stopping in a few locations.

727
00:23:26,509 --> 00:23:27,976
I can Dave Lewis Kimono because

728
00:23:27,976 --> 00:23:30,976
I have some parks related.

729
00:23:31,579 --> 00:23:33,948
He said, no, I'm just kidding.

730
00:23:33,948 --> 00:23:37,218
I of not. On a Friday morning.

731
00:23:37,218 --> 00:23:40,818
Yeah. Is out you look silly.

732
00:23:43,826 --> 00:23:44,360
I just I'm looking at this

733
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:46,760
maintenance worker and has

734
00:23:47,529 --> 00:23:49,497
worked were cutting a lot of

735
00:23:49,497 --> 00:23:49,799
those positions and then the

736
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:50,365
recreation.

737
00:23:50,365 --> 00:23:52,365
>> Assistant position looks

738
00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:54,300
like we're cutting a lot of

739
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:54,602
those, but they have a lot of

740
00:23:54,602 --> 00:23:57,772
positions and can you walk me

741
00:23:57,772 --> 00:23:59,441
through what the maintenance

742
00:23:59,441 --> 00:24:00,420
workers do and

743
00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:00,643
realistically what we can

744
00:24:00,643 --> 00:24:03,430
expect, the reduction services

745
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,681
to look like without those.

746
00:24:06,681 --> 00:24:07,215
6 maintenance workers.

747
00:24:07,215 --> 00:24:07,849
>> Yeah, there's 2 sets of

748
00:24:07,849 --> 00:24:10,249
maintenance workers are talking

749
00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:12,888
about. One group is with the

750
00:24:12,888 --> 00:24:14,824
Athletics division and we have

751
00:24:14,824 --> 00:24:15,391
built those back in essentially

752
00:24:15,391 --> 00:24:15,891
for six-month freeze for the

753
00:24:15,891 --> 00:24:16,492
year, meaning we can get

754
00:24:16,492 --> 00:24:19,610
through the winter, but we got

755
00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:21,964
to hire them back to get them

756
00:24:21,964 --> 00:24:24,867
into the spring and the other

757
00:24:24,867 --> 00:24:25,468
maintenance workers are spread

758
00:24:25,468 --> 00:24:26,680
throughout the different park

759
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,636
operation divisions. We have 7

760
00:24:27,636 --> 00:24:28,170
divisions, north, northwest

761
00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:30,139
southeast. All of those we

762
00:24:30,139 --> 00:24:30,773
build back some of those.

763
00:24:30,773 --> 00:24:33,642
So really looking at it's kind

764
00:24:33,642 --> 00:24:35,845
of helps to look at the overall

765
00:24:35,845 --> 00:24:36,445
strength of that. It's hard

766
00:24:36,445 --> 00:24:37,120
to quantify really what the

767
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,949
difference is, the way we've

768
00:24:39,949 --> 00:24:43,220
talked about this over the last

769
00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:46,220
couple weeks is. For people

770
00:24:46,822 --> 00:24:47,923
that are changing trash.

771
00:24:47,923 --> 00:24:49,891
Where they might be able to do

772
00:24:49,891 --> 00:24:50,960
that. In today's now, it'll

773
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,895
take them 3 days. So obviously

774
00:24:52,895 --> 00:24:53,629
a little bit slower for that.

775
00:24:53,629 --> 00:24:54,196
But there MAY also be some

776
00:24:54,196 --> 00:24:55,764
things that they don't get,

777
00:24:55,764 --> 00:24:57,990
too. It's really hard to

778
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:59,499
quantify exactly what that

779
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,237
looks like. The good news is we

780
00:25:01,237 --> 00:25:03,439
have only seen a slight uptick

781
00:25:03,439 --> 00:25:05,774
in complaints via our app, son,

782
00:25:05,774 --> 00:25:06,408
emails and phone calls. But

783
00:25:06,408 --> 00:25:09,408
restoring that back should have

784
00:25:09,512 --> 00:25:10,546
less of an impact than was

785
00:25:10,546 --> 00:25:12,515
originally frozen. But it's

786
00:25:12,515 --> 00:25:13,482
really hard to quantify.

787
00:25:13,482 --> 00:25:15,518
Exactly. So it's things like

788
00:25:15,518 --> 00:25:17,119
trash pickup. It's what I'm

789
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,753
trying to figure out is does

790
00:25:17,753 --> 00:25:19,822
this mean want to swing breaks?

791
00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:20,455
It takes longer for the swing

792
00:25:20,455 --> 00:25:23,359
to get prepared or is this like

793
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,328
internal?

794
00:25:25,328 --> 00:25:27,464
>> You know, Quitman repair.

795
00:25:27,464 --> 00:25:28,531
We do know it. Good Something

796
00:25:28,531 --> 00:25:29,365
like a swing repair generally

797
00:25:29,365 --> 00:25:32,365
would be our skilled trades

798
00:25:34,170 --> 00:25:34,771
technician, which is also on

799
00:25:34,771 --> 00:25:35,337
that list. And it's why we've

800
00:25:35,337 --> 00:25:35,971
request to build those back.

801
00:25:35,971 --> 00:25:36,873
Ok, we have to we have to trade

802
00:25:36,873 --> 00:25:37,807
screws. One does maintenance

803
00:25:37,807 --> 00:25:38,775
and went to small capital

804
00:25:38,775 --> 00:25:40,775
projects.

805
00:25:40,910 --> 00:25:41,410
>> And what we would do if

806
00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:43,810
those aren't restart is

807
00:25:43,913 --> 00:25:45,781
actually shift some people from

808
00:25:45,781 --> 00:25:46,749
the small capital projects crew

809
00:25:46,749 --> 00:25:47,917
into the maintenance repairs.

810
00:25:47,917 --> 00:25:48,751
So MAY slow up some of our

811
00:25:48,751 --> 00:25:49,385
small peco projects, but it

812
00:25:49,385 --> 00:25:52,289
make sure that we're staying on

813
00:25:52,289 --> 00:25:52,789
top of repairs and maintenance

814
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:53,356
to amenities within the

815
00:25:53,356 --> 00:25:54,524
facilities.

816
00:25:54,524 --> 00:25:55,357
>> Okay. And then let's talk

817
00:25:55,357 --> 00:25:57,159
about recreation systems out.

818
00:25:57,159 --> 00:25:57,927
Looks like we have a lot in the

819
00:25:57,927 --> 00:25:59,927
department. There's 95. But

820
00:26:02,698 --> 00:26:05,669
we're getting rid of 9 out of.

821
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:06,268
About half of them. Half of

822
00:26:06,268 --> 00:26:06,436
this particular team, I guess

823
00:26:06,436 --> 00:26:08,436
so.

824
00:26:08,872 --> 00:26:10,941
>> Yeah. In the way they've

825
00:26:10,941 --> 00:26:12,843
divided up is the team would be

826
00:26:12,843 --> 00:26:13,510
essentially the community

827
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:14,143
center. So that's the strength

828
00:26:14,143 --> 00:26:17,743
of that of an average community

829
00:26:18,849 --> 00:26:20,316
center. It's not the strength

830
00:26:20,316 --> 00:26:20,984
of all of them. And so it's

831
00:26:20,984 --> 00:26:21,451
really that's being spread out

832
00:26:21,451 --> 00:26:23,851
in the combination of

833
00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:25,655
Recreation Assistance Committee

834
00:26:25,655 --> 00:26:27,923
center, aids, the all work on

835
00:26:27,923 --> 00:26:29,240
programming. They'll work on

836
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,794
answering phones, hosting

837
00:26:30,794 --> 00:26:31,361
people with the program are

838
00:26:31,361 --> 00:26:34,830
being more in a system being

839
00:26:34,830 --> 00:26:35,800
more heavy on the program side

840
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,633
with being more on custodial

841
00:26:36,633 --> 00:26:38,634
service is answering phones.

842
00:26:38,634 --> 00:26:40,638
And so really it's trying to

843
00:26:40,638 --> 00:26:42,707
find the balance between those.

844
00:26:42,707 --> 00:26:43,740
We believe that this this new

845
00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:44,708
proposal would have very

846
00:26:44,708 --> 00:26:45,741
minimal impacts. What we're

847
00:26:45,741 --> 00:26:47,543
trying to do is really relook

848
00:26:47,543 --> 00:26:49,613
at things in shuffle to make

849
00:26:49,613 --> 00:26:50,648
sure that we're covering

850
00:26:50,648 --> 00:26:51,580
things. I think what's just as

851
00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:52,449
important as looking at the

852
00:26:52,449 --> 00:26:54,484
program, Dayton, really having

853
00:26:54,484 --> 00:26:56,286
a better understanding of when

854
00:26:56,286 --> 00:26:58,555
community centers are needed.

855
00:26:58,555 --> 00:27:00,423
Are we open times that we don't

856
00:27:00,423 --> 00:27:01,992
need to be? Are we opening to

857
00:27:01,992 --> 00:27:02,592
early staying too late open on

858
00:27:02,592 --> 00:27:03,226
days that the community hasn't

859
00:27:03,226 --> 00:27:05,797
expressed an interest in really

860
00:27:05,797 --> 00:27:06,897
needing that center? So that's

861
00:27:06,897 --> 00:27:08,799
part of our exercise, too.

862
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:09,399
All of that analysis is part of

863
00:27:09,399 --> 00:27:11,399
regular recreation programming

864
00:27:13,170 --> 00:27:13,737
development really doing a much

865
00:27:13,737 --> 00:27:17,337
deeper dive right now to be

866
00:27:17,742 --> 00:27:18,508
more efficient. Thank you,

867
00:27:18,508 --> 00:27:21,479
>> This is not a day with his

868
00:27:21,479 --> 00:27:24,479
question. So you're off the

869
00:27:24,782 --> 00:27:27,782
clock. Okay. My pertains to

870
00:27:27,951 --> 00:27:29,951
development services.

871
00:27:30,354 --> 00:27:30,922
>> Don't lay day at it. He's

872
00:27:30,922 --> 00:27:33,423
going to be close to a day.

873
00:27:33,423 --> 00:27:37,623
I was they are right in line

874
00:27:39,497 --> 00:27:40,630
and the front row. It's in the

875
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:42,833
>> Dj as far as development

876
00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,233
services. The customer service

877
00:27:46,103 --> 00:27:46,938
rep too. I know that in recent

878
00:27:46,938 --> 00:27:48,806
years we've been.

879
00:27:48,806 --> 00:27:50,140
Trying, you know, to to

880
00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:53,140
increase, you know, the Florida

881
00:27:53,277 --> 00:27:53,811
processes in your department.

882
00:27:53,811 --> 00:27:55,120
You've done a lot of work

883
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,612
towards that. I want you to

884
00:27:59,383 --> 00:27:59,917
talk about this proposed, you

885
00:27:59,917 --> 00:28:00,451
know, reduction in force.

886
00:28:00,451 --> 00:28:03,187
How does that affect you?

887
00:28:03,187 --> 00:28:03,620
Does it affect you how you're

888
00:28:03,620 --> 00:28:05,456
going to compensate?

889
00:28:05,456 --> 00:28:07,856
>> Good Morning. Mary Council,

890
00:28:08,727 --> 00:28:11,195
thank you for the question.

891
00:28:11,195 --> 00:28:11,928
Councilmember Flores. Yes, we

892
00:28:11,928 --> 00:28:13,263
have been trying to increase

893
00:28:13,263 --> 00:28:14,867
customer service reps to

894
00:28:14,867 --> 00:28:18,136
increase the flow on the 5th

895
00:28:18,136 --> 00:28:20,939
floor. People in and out online

896
00:28:20,939 --> 00:28:23,275
what we plan to do to

897
00:28:23,275 --> 00:28:26,275
compensate with these cuts is

898
00:28:26,277 --> 00:28:28,413
to try to lean on technology.

899
00:28:28,413 --> 00:28:29,679
We've been working with it and

900
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:30,281
some of the resources that they

901
00:28:30,281 --> 00:28:31,516
have to look at like chatbots

902
00:28:31,516 --> 00:28:34,386
other solutions that we can put

903
00:28:34,386 --> 00:28:34,953
a line that can get people off

904
00:28:34,953 --> 00:28:36,870
the phone obviously, without

905
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:39,687
that, you know, the call time

906
00:28:40,158 --> 00:28:41,570
or the Cole whole time with

907
00:28:41,570 --> 00:28:41,960
the increase. But with

908
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,627
technological solutions, we

909
00:28:42,627 --> 00:28:45,164
think we can, you know, kind of

910
00:28:45,164 --> 00:28:45,763
keep development moving

911
00:28:45,763 --> 00:28:48,900
forward. That MAY be a slight

912
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:49,734
impact on, you know, wait times

913
00:28:49,734 --> 00:28:51,601
in the lobby. Maybe also with

914
00:28:51,601 --> 00:28:54,239
like, you know, plan review or,

915
00:28:54,239 --> 00:28:54,872
you know, moving things from

916
00:28:54,872 --> 00:28:57,976
like Tw to water to development

917
00:28:57,976 --> 00:28:58,544
services. But we're going to

918
00:28:58,544 --> 00:28:59,610
try to compensate, you know,

919
00:28:59,610 --> 00:29:00,111
with no technological

920
00:29:00,111 --> 00:29:02,511
improvements as much as

921
00:29:02,647 --> 00:29:04,248
possible and process

922
00:29:04,248 --> 00:29:04,849
improvements as well.

923
00:29:04,849 --> 00:29:07,853
>> All right. Or any of these

924
00:29:07,853 --> 00:29:10,889
proposed Do they impact the x

925
00:29:10,889 --> 00:29:12,889
team?

926
00:29:21,967 --> 00:29:24,367
If you're back up?

927
00:29:27,139 --> 00:29:29,800
>> After you are present.

928
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,408
>> I heard from multiple

929
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:34,513
residence about making sure

930
00:29:34,513 --> 00:29:37,181
that we did not do away with

931
00:29:37,181 --> 00:29:39,150
any services in parks and

932
00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:40,285
recreation. It's a forward

933
00:29:40,285 --> 00:29:43,285
facing department. So are you

934
00:29:44,289 --> 00:29:44,856
comfortable that these cuts

935
00:29:44,856 --> 00:29:47,726
will ensure that we don't do

936
00:29:47,726 --> 00:29:50,726
away with any of those

937
00:29:51,263 --> 00:29:52,264
services.

938
00:29:52,264 --> 00:29:55,660
And I know that's a broad

939
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:56,000
question. But I you know, I

940
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,535
want to support this, but I

941
00:29:56,535 --> 00:29:59,535
can't support it. If we're

942
00:29:59,570 --> 00:30:02,570
gonna lose services to the

943
00:30:03,740 --> 00:30:04,209
community.

944
00:30:04,209 --> 00:30:05,144
>> The new proposal minimizes

945
00:30:05,144 --> 00:30:07,790
any impacts. And again, we have

946
00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:08,314
to do more homework to really

947
00:30:08,314 --> 00:30:10,480
understand community need in

948
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,116
each of the locations. So I'm

949
00:30:11,116 --> 00:30:12,150
confident that we can still

950
00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:13,510
provide the same level of

951
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:13,619
service. It's just being more

952
00:30:13,619 --> 00:30:16,190
efficient, effective in and

953
00:30:17,589 --> 00:30:18,190
really understanding community

954
00:30:18,190 --> 00:30:19,424
need better. We look at all of

955
00:30:19,424 --> 00:30:20,259
our community centers

956
00:30:20,259 --> 00:30:20,759
differently. They serve

957
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,329
different audiences with

958
00:30:22,329 --> 00:30:24,196
different needs and so really

959
00:30:24,196 --> 00:30:25,330
customizing that making sure

960
00:30:25,330 --> 00:30:27,266
that we're serving those local

961
00:30:27,266 --> 00:30:28,000
residents, but in a fashion

962
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,567
that they need and making sure

963
00:30:28,567 --> 00:30:30,403
that we're not staying open,

964
00:30:30,403 --> 00:30:30,937
we don't need to. That's it.

965
00:30:30,937 --> 00:30:34,700
That's the big part of it.

966
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:34,673
But it's also a maximizing

967
00:30:34,673 --> 00:30:36,641
those spaces.

968
00:30:36,641 --> 00:30:37,544
Well, we say that the community

969
00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:38,177
center supervisor's job is to

970
00:30:38,177 --> 00:30:41,146
make sure that at community

971
00:30:41,146 --> 00:30:42,115
center is bustling from open

972
00:30:42,115 --> 00:30:42,714
to close. How do you do that?

973
00:30:42,714 --> 00:30:45,714
You offer programs that people

974
00:30:46,518 --> 00:30:47,850
are interested in and how do

975
00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:49,421
you do that? You ask. And so

976
00:30:49,421 --> 00:30:50,456
it's really just making sure

977
00:30:50,456 --> 00:30:50,824
that we're understand that

978
00:30:50,824 --> 00:30:52,424
community need.

979
00:30:52,424 --> 00:30:53,292
>> Well, and that's good.

980
00:30:53,292 --> 00:30:55,227
So I 3 of the people that I

981
00:30:55,227 --> 00:30:57,950
heard from more ministers who

982
00:30:57,950 --> 00:30:57,664
rely believe it or not, handily

983
00:30:57,664 --> 00:31:00,664
on the community center for

984
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:02,735
activities for their youth.

985
00:31:02,735 --> 00:31:04,838
And so I just want to be sure

986
00:31:04,838 --> 00:31:07,574
that I can reassure them that

987
00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:08,341
we're not going to disrupt some

988
00:31:08,341 --> 00:31:11,341
of those activities that they

989
00:31:11,343 --> 00:31:12,144
think help deter crime and keep

990
00:31:12,144 --> 00:31:14,144
their folks busy.

991
00:31:14,313 --> 00:31:15,249
>> Yeah, it's great to hear and

992
00:31:15,249 --> 00:31:15,848
I'd love to hear from them

993
00:31:15,848 --> 00:31:16,482
directly on what is important

994
00:31:16,482 --> 00:31:19,551
to him and what their needs are

995
00:31:19,551 --> 00:31:20,452
making sure that we're able to

996
00:31:20,452 --> 00:31:21,920
meet that.

997
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Thank you. They've had similar

998
00:31:25,858 --> 00:31:27,693
concerns and receive the same

999
00:31:27,693 --> 00:31:28,327
communication. I wanted to also

1000
00:31:28,327 --> 00:31:30,727
inquire about community centers

1001
00:31:31,630 --> 00:31:32,264
that have after-school programs

1002
00:31:32,264 --> 00:31:34,233
and things of that nature and

1003
00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:34,968
that have different, you know,

1004
00:31:34,968 --> 00:31:37,368
organizations that are ready

1005
00:31:38,637 --> 00:31:41,370
convening there regularly for

1006
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,741
whatever reason. And will those

1007
00:31:42,741 --> 00:31:43,642
be given priority also

1008
00:31:43,642 --> 00:31:45,677
considered? And we have not

1009
00:31:45,677 --> 00:31:46,279
recommended any reductions to

1010
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:47,113
any of those programs at all.

1011
00:31:47,113 --> 00:31:48,548
The only thing we're looking

1012
00:31:48,548 --> 00:31:49,149
at is again, streamlining some

1013
00:31:49,149 --> 00:31:49,415
of the hours. If we can

1014
00:31:49,415 --> 00:31:51,415
determine.

1015
00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:53,352
>> That the community doesn't

1016
00:31:53,352 --> 00:31:56,189
need the facility. It's one of

1017
00:31:56,189 --> 00:31:56,790
the topics are talking about.

1018
00:31:56,790 --> 00:31:57,957
There are 4, 5 cities open on

1019
00:31:57,957 --> 00:31:59,726
Sundays. All of them are open

1020
00:31:59,726 --> 00:32:00,894
on Saturdays. Is it still

1021
00:32:00,894 --> 00:32:01,761
necessary that to be open those

1022
00:32:01,761 --> 00:32:04,497
days? When we start looking

1023
00:32:04,497 --> 00:32:05,131
at the data, some of the usage

1024
00:32:05,131 --> 00:32:05,631
is low on Saturday. So is that

1025
00:32:05,631 --> 00:32:06,232
something that's that's

1026
00:32:06,232 --> 00:32:09,501
necessary? But we need as the

1027
00:32:09,501 --> 00:32:11,136
community that question and

1028
00:32:11,136 --> 00:32:11,704
think about kids are back in

1029
00:32:11,704 --> 00:32:12,305
school. Do you want to go to

1030
00:32:12,305 --> 00:32:13,873
community center program on a

1031
00:32:13,873 --> 00:32:16,873
Saturday after that busy week?

1032
00:32:17,777 --> 00:32:19,846
Maybe. But that's what we need

1033
00:32:19,846 --> 00:32:20,948
to better understand.

1034
00:32:20,948 --> 00:32:21,581
>> And not to belabor the

1035
00:32:21,581 --> 00:32:22,181
point. When you say we're going

1036
00:32:22,181 --> 00:32:25,500
to ask the community is their

1037
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:26,190
formal method in which you're

1038
00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:28,954
going to communities. We don't

1039
00:32:28,954 --> 00:32:30,240
have a formal unplanned, but

1040
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,691
each community center does

1041
00:32:31,691 --> 00:32:32,226
survey on their own and then it

1042
00:32:32,226 --> 00:32:33,494
obviously is a lot of the

1043
00:32:33,494 --> 00:32:35,462
anecdotal, Stephen. We've got a

1044
00:32:35,462 --> 00:32:35,762
neighborhood association

1045
00:32:35,762 --> 00:32:37,762
meetings and

1046
00:32:38,363 --> 00:32:38,899
>> various stakeholder input

1047
00:32:38,899 --> 00:32:39,467
that we get. Some of it's

1048
00:32:39,467 --> 00:32:41,234
anecdotal, but somebody says

1049
00:32:41,234 --> 00:32:42,100
serving as well and not one big

1050
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,500
survey. We do that. But every 5

1051
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,108
years we test community need is

1052
00:32:48,108 --> 00:32:48,641
part of our strategic planning.

1053
00:32:48,641 --> 00:32:51,780
>> Outside of us of formal

1054
00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:51,579
survey, is there data that you

1055
00:32:51,579 --> 00:32:53,120
can pull like check ins

1056
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,130
checkout skier is in in our

1057
00:32:54,130 --> 00:32:55,148
system. We have all of that.

1058
00:32:55,148 --> 00:32:55,649
Whether it's rentals, whether

1059
00:32:55,649 --> 00:32:56,416
it's drop in or actually

1060
00:32:56,416 --> 00:32:57,500
registered used. That's the

1061
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,500
data that we're looking at.

1062
00:33:00,987 --> 00:33:02,220
>> That in combination with

1063
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:03,958
Placer ai the kind of overlap a

1064
00:33:03,958 --> 00:33:04,524
little bit. But so we can tell

1065
00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:05,158
when people come in just the

1066
00:33:05,158 --> 00:33:08,528
traffic of looking to see who's

1067
00:33:08,528 --> 00:33:09,662
actually registering for

1068
00:33:09,662 --> 00:33:10,264
programs as well. I think my

1069
00:33:10,264 --> 00:33:12,298
preference would be that we

1070
00:33:12,298 --> 00:33:13,967
rely heavily on that data

1071
00:33:13,967 --> 00:33:14,701
because I think sometimes

1072
00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:15,235
preference.

1073
00:33:15,235 --> 00:33:17,437
>> And what people voices,

1074
00:33:17,437 --> 00:33:18,938
their preference versus what

1075
00:33:18,938 --> 00:33:21,308
their actual habits are might

1076
00:33:21,308 --> 00:33:22,109
be different. And so and I want

1077
00:33:22,109 --> 00:33:24,344
to make sure that that's if we

1078
00:33:24,344 --> 00:33:26,744
have that ability that's

1079
00:33:27,413 --> 00:33:29,413
factored in. Absolutely.

1080
00:33:29,884 --> 00:33:30,451
Anyone else for days. Thank

1081
00:33:30,451 --> 00:33:33,587
you, Dave. Front row seat or

1082
00:33:33,587 --> 00:33:35,890
I use month. Stay closed.

1083
00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:38,290
Just never know. Yeah.

1084
00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:41,595
And maybe add a question for dj

1085
00:33:41,595 --> 00:33:42,962
again. If you don't mind.

1086
00:33:42,962 --> 00:33:43,596
Dj, you alluded to working with

1087
00:33:43,596 --> 00:33:44,165
it and different solutions that

1088
00:33:44,165 --> 00:33:47,201
are maybe in turn already be

1089
00:33:47,201 --> 00:33:48,200
able to the city of Fort Worth

1090
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,171
to feel like we have properly

1091
00:33:50,171 --> 00:33:51,370
extinguished all options that

1092
00:33:51,370 --> 00:33:54,800
are outside maybe vendors that

1093
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,875
were not currently working with

1094
00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:57,111
the pilots. Some of this work.

1095
00:33:57,111 --> 00:33:58,440
>> I'm not sure, mayor, to be

1096
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,880
honest, I think that'll come to

1097
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,915
light when we start doing some

1098
00:34:00,915 --> 00:34:02,616
of these lean process analysis,

1099
00:34:02,616 --> 00:34:05,352
obviously with these cuts, we

1100
00:34:05,352 --> 00:34:05,953
need to look at how we keep the

1101
00:34:05,953 --> 00:34:09,222
same level of service for our

1102
00:34:09,222 --> 00:34:09,991
customers. So we'll be looking

1103
00:34:09,991 --> 00:34:10,591
at, you know, all options,

1104
00:34:10,591 --> 00:34:12,193
right? If there is a 3rd party

1105
00:34:12,193 --> 00:34:15,163
that can do something faster

1106
00:34:15,163 --> 00:34:15,996
for cheap and we'll definitely

1107
00:34:15,996 --> 00:34:18,320
be looking at that. Yeah.

1108
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:18,566
>> You know, I I bring that up

1109
00:34:18,566 --> 00:34:19,660
because council members hb

1110
00:34:19,660 --> 00:34:20,836
public and interact with

1111
00:34:20,836 --> 00:34:22,570
different vendors at lc

1112
00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:24,238
meetings or tm outlook, cetera.

1113
00:34:24,238 --> 00:34:24,838
I would encourage us to bring

1114
00:34:24,838 --> 00:34:27,342
any of those options to dj his

1115
00:34:27,342 --> 00:34:28,143
team so he can tell us a quick

1116
00:34:28,143 --> 00:34:29,210
look at what's out there.

1117
00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:31,244
What's interesting is a lot of

1118
00:34:31,244 --> 00:34:31,813
these companies will let you

1119
00:34:31,813 --> 00:34:34,181
pilot at no cost to the city

1120
00:34:34,181 --> 00:34:34,816
for a period of time. You still

1121
00:34:34,816 --> 00:34:35,317
have to have the man power on

1122
00:34:35,317 --> 00:34:35,950
your. And so that's not

1123
00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:37,785
actually creating more work for

1124
00:34:37,785 --> 00:34:39,720
your team. So recognize it

1125
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:40,755
takes time. But to the extent

1126
00:34:40,755 --> 00:34:41,322
that this body can be helpful

1127
00:34:41,322 --> 00:34:43,791
and bringing options to you?

1128
00:34:43,791 --> 00:34:44,358
I think I would encourage us to

1129
00:34:44,358 --> 00:34:46,527
do so. Now and and let them

1130
00:34:46,527 --> 00:34:48,927
start thinking about that.

1131
00:34:49,797 --> 00:34:52,797
The next fiscal year. Park

1132
00:34:52,968 --> 00:34:54,968
Ranger question.

1133
00:34:58,305 --> 00:35:00,141
>> I just want to check with

1134
00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:00,741
the use. Part of this budget

1135
00:35:00,741 --> 00:35:03,741
have been scrubbed through it,

1136
00:35:03,744 --> 00:35:04,278
but do any of the proposals

1137
00:35:04,278 --> 00:35:04,846
come forward? You have any

1138
00:35:04,846 --> 00:35:07,282
services or our cuts for the

1139
00:35:07,282 --> 00:35:09,682
rise Community Center or

1140
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,484
library. No, not really.

1141
00:35:12,687 --> 00:35:15,870
Thanks for that. Yeah.

1142
00:35:15,956 --> 00:35:17,892
Questions council. Go ahead.

1143
00:35:17,892 --> 00:35:18,425
Controllers have cut.

1144
00:35:18,425 --> 00:35:20,896
>> I was going to ask will

1145
00:35:20,896 --> 00:35:21,495
first from last meeting we've

1146
00:35:21,495 --> 00:35:22,970
back and watch that. You want

1147
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:23,532
to thank you, mayor and the

1148
00:35:23,532 --> 00:35:24,666
colleagues who stepped forward

1149
00:35:24,666 --> 00:35:27,660
PetSmart Alliance because after

1150
00:35:27,636 --> 00:35:28,236
as watching, of course, is wait

1151
00:35:28,236 --> 00:35:29,637
after that. Snow. So certainly

1152
00:35:29,637 --> 00:35:31,673
hearing a lot from the

1153
00:35:31,673 --> 00:35:32,674
residence on that one, too.

1154
00:35:32,674 --> 00:35:35,674
So long live PetSmart Alliance.

1155
00:35:37,450 --> 00:35:37,878
Thank you for that advocacy

1156
00:35:37,878 --> 00:35:38,445
and also to really make to

1157
00:35:38,445 --> 00:35:41,516
cause checked to go in there

1158
00:35:41,516 --> 00:35:42,517
like that. Yeah, so definitely

1159
00:35:42,517 --> 00:35:44,418
don't want to at

1160
00:35:44,418 --> 00:35:47,589
a couple things I'd like to

1161
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:48,589
learn more about.

1162
00:35:48,589 --> 00:35:49,910
>> You know, as we

1163
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:49,658
your reach out to their

1164
00:35:49,658 --> 00:35:52,580
residents and 11 about that

1165
00:35:52,494 --> 00:35:53,929
Sunday's possible fee

1166
00:35:53,929 --> 00:35:54,529
increases. And although some

1167
00:35:54,529 --> 00:35:57,232
your tax or tax rate goes up,

1168
00:35:57,232 --> 00:36:00,232
although they MAY be painless,

1169
00:36:00,669 --> 00:36:03,710
it's really hard to justify a

1170
00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:07,800
lot of that has we spend on

1171
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:07,476
public art hot topic and one

1172
00:36:07,476 --> 00:36:08,343
that hard to bring up

1173
00:36:08,343 --> 00:36:10,178
but it's really hard to look

1174
00:36:10,178 --> 00:36:11,780
them in the face. And back,

1175
00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:12,648
by the way, when asked to spend

1176
00:36:12,648 --> 00:36:13,248
more on some of these fees

1177
00:36:13,248 --> 00:36:16,351
while we're in a deficit year.

1178
00:36:16,351 --> 00:36:17,319
>> While paying for these, so

1179
00:36:17,319 --> 00:36:18,190
I know.

1180
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:19,550
We clearly know the process

1181
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:22,550
for moratorium. I don't know.

1182
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:23,358
That's necessarily the right

1183
00:36:23,358 --> 00:36:24,526
way for this. But

1184
00:36:24,526 --> 00:36:25,610
what does it look like as far

1185
00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:27,610
as temporarily suspending

1186
00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:29,598
funding for some of the larger?

1187
00:36:29,598 --> 00:36:31,700
Public art projects that

1188
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:33,535
haven't been contractually

1189
00:36:33,535 --> 00:36:34,136
obligated yet. I know it's if

1190
00:36:34,136 --> 00:36:37,639
a pot because it's tied to the

1191
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:38,206
bond. What does that look like

1192
00:36:38,206 --> 00:36:40,108
as far as deferring that to

1193
00:36:40,108 --> 00:36:40,610
possibly year would become

1194
00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:43,610
painter ears on up more

1195
00:36:43,612 --> 00:36:43,979
positive budget year. What does

1196
00:36:43,979 --> 00:36:45,347
that look like?

1197
00:36:45,347 --> 00:36:48,618
Well, I think the council could

1198
00:36:48,618 --> 00:36:49,684
take action not to not to fund

1199
00:36:49,684 --> 00:36:50,252
those, but

1200
00:36:50,252 --> 00:36:52,587
those are like you said its

1201
00:36:52,587 --> 00:36:52,988
capital so would really help

1202
00:36:52,988 --> 00:36:54,122
the general fund.

1203
00:36:54,122 --> 00:36:57,326
>> Or any of the areas where

1204
00:36:57,326 --> 00:36:57,960
we're asking for a fee

1205
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,527
increases right dollars.

1206
00:36:58,527 --> 00:37:00,629
Just wouldn't be spent. And

1207
00:37:00,629 --> 00:37:01,630
I guess it would you be used

1208
00:37:01,630 --> 00:37:03,630
for capital instead?

1209
00:37:03,566 --> 00:37:04,320
>> Yeah, I think that be the

1210
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,468
key theirs. You know,

1211
00:37:05,468 --> 00:37:07,469
understanding we can move that

1212
00:37:07,469 --> 00:37:08,971
back to general fund. But I

1213
00:37:08,971 --> 00:37:09,538
think it also has a lot to do

1214
00:37:09,538 --> 00:37:10,840
with just the perception and

1215
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,842
the you know, we're say, hey,

1216
00:37:12,842 --> 00:37:13,909
guys, it's really tight year

1217
00:37:13,909 --> 00:37:15,778
now. Again, we tell somebody,

1218
00:37:15,778 --> 00:37:16,345
hey, we're kind of broke right

1219
00:37:16,345 --> 00:37:18,214
now, but we're gonna go out,

1220
00:37:18,214 --> 00:37:19,150
has taken lobster. It's kind of

1221
00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:19,582
a bad perception. My opinion.

1222
00:37:19,582 --> 00:37:21,449
It's important still. But I

1223
00:37:21,449 --> 00:37:22,180
think about I think there's a

1224
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:25,180
legal question since we went

1225
00:37:25,254 --> 00:37:27,956
to the bondholder, you know,

1226
00:37:27,956 --> 00:37:28,590
to the voters and they voted

1227
00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:29,157
for a bond that included public

1228
00:37:29,157 --> 00:37:30,859
arts. I'm not sure. And then

1229
00:37:30,859 --> 00:37:31,227
looking at Dennis Kneale is

1230
00:37:31,227 --> 00:37:33,227
looking at him.

1231
00:37:34,797 --> 00:37:35,231
>> Well, if there's even a

1232
00:37:35,231 --> 00:37:36,898
mechanism for that.

1233
00:37:36,898 --> 00:37:37,732
>> With that being even allow

1234
00:37:37,732 --> 00:37:38,266
those inserting designated to

1235
00:37:38,266 --> 00:37:40,666
public. That's what that's

1236
00:37:40,736 --> 00:37:41,337
things like. I'm looking more

1237
00:37:41,337 --> 00:37:43,238
for like a temporary pause and

1238
00:37:43,238 --> 00:37:43,773
tell so maybe not but this year

1239
00:37:43,773 --> 00:37:47,373
or next year, but the year

1240
00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:49,712
where we can actually afford

1241
00:37:49,712 --> 00:37:50,980
it. At. Good morning, Dennis

1242
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:53,249
Michael City attorney's office

1243
00:37:53,249 --> 00:37:56,249
with respect to James question

1244
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:57,954
about allowed use of the bond

1245
00:37:57,954 --> 00:37:59,210
funds. It was.

1246
00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:00,389
Presented to voters MAY use

1247
00:38:00,389 --> 00:38:03,259
up to 2%. So council does not

1248
00:38:03,259 --> 00:38:05,659
allocate that money. Previous

1249
00:38:06,195 --> 00:38:06,728
allocated money. Paws were

1250
00:38:06,728 --> 00:38:08,264
implemented, as Jay said.

1251
00:38:08,264 --> 00:38:09,650
Those projects just wouldn't

1252
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:09,665
get paid during this period.

1253
00:38:09,665 --> 00:38:12,668
I we'd have to do a deep dive

1254
00:38:12,668 --> 00:38:14,303
into the contract, Jeanette,

1255
00:38:14,303 --> 00:38:15,238
like.

1256
00:38:15,238 --> 00:38:18,410
Offer. This probably is a good

1257
00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:19,420
topic for the council really

1258
00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:20,760
wrestle with so.

1259
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,178
>> If I'm hearing you correctly

1260
00:38:22,178 --> 00:38:22,945
j it wouldn't actually impact

1261
00:38:22,945 --> 00:38:24,847
our ability to change this

1262
00:38:24,847 --> 00:38:25,848
discussion on this fiscal year

1263
00:38:25,848 --> 00:38:26,916
but has 0 impact on our

1264
00:38:26,916 --> 00:38:27,450
operating budget. So if the

1265
00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:28,952
body would be okay with it

1266
00:38:28,952 --> 00:38:29,585
because we do need to get

1267
00:38:29,585 --> 00:38:31,922
through this budget process.

1268
00:38:31,922 --> 00:38:33,891
Let's push this conversation

1269
00:38:33,891 --> 00:38:35,926
to a work session in SEPTEMBER.

1270
00:38:35,926 --> 00:38:36,959
OCTOBER and talk about it

1271
00:38:36,959 --> 00:38:37,860
openly and that way, we're not

1272
00:38:37,860 --> 00:38:39,620
derailing this because I can

1273
00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:39,863
already feel against the bill.

1274
00:38:39,863 --> 00:38:42,899
Really want to keep it on

1275
00:38:42,899 --> 00:38:43,332
track. And some understandably

1276
00:38:43,332 --> 00:38:43,933
have to worry about

1277
00:38:43,933 --> 00:38:44,534
perceptions. So that's one

1278
00:38:44,534 --> 00:38:45,680
thing. I'll say they want same

1279
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,805
thing about that can cause

1280
00:38:47,805 --> 00:38:49,390
we're back. I think it's for

1281
00:38:49,390 --> 00:38:49,639
them to say no.

1282
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,609
>> And I'm just the other one,

1283
00:38:52,609 --> 00:38:56,120
if a person but a response or

1284
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,613
rfi, if you will, if we can

1285
00:38:56,613 --> 00:38:57,790
just get at because whenever I

1286
00:38:57,790 --> 00:38:58,682
heard the credit card

1287
00:38:58,682 --> 00:39:01,682
processing out of that, that

1288
00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:02,618
part of Myers because as a

1289
00:39:02,618 --> 00:39:05,618
small fry campaign, 3% for for

1290
00:39:06,122 --> 00:39:06,924
us and my Pinellas and dollars.

1291
00:39:06,924 --> 00:39:08,291
So it's not much at all.

1292
00:39:08,291 --> 00:39:08,891
City our size, you know, kind

1293
00:39:08,891 --> 00:39:09,460
of scale should be paying a

1294
00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:13,600
lot last night and they were

1295
00:39:14,998 --> 00:39:15,531
passed on. So it's easy for

1296
00:39:15,531 --> 00:39:16,133
us to Sara. Well, whatever

1297
00:39:16,133 --> 00:39:16,633
they're charging is what will

1298
00:39:16,633 --> 00:39:18,100
pay for some development

1299
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:18,701
services. The last year when I

1300
00:39:18,701 --> 00:39:20,737
came on board, the first thing

1301
00:39:20,737 --> 00:39:21,805
that brought to me because they

1302
00:39:21,805 --> 00:39:22,172
were spending almost a million

1303
00:39:22,172 --> 00:39:24,172
dollars.

1304
00:39:24,974 --> 00:39:26,844
>> Out of their budget to cover

1305
00:39:26,844 --> 00:39:27,444
the credit card fees for that

1306
00:39:27,444 --> 00:39:27,978
for people that came in to pay

1307
00:39:27,978 --> 00:39:30,378
with credit cards, right?

1308
00:39:30,747 --> 00:39:32,182
We try to push folks to do a ch

1309
00:39:32,182 --> 00:39:35,719
or to do debit card. And so

1310
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,753
that's what we brought to city

1311
00:39:36,753 --> 00:39:38,722
council. That change.

1312
00:39:38,722 --> 00:39:39,556
Like I said, different. We have

1313
00:39:39,556 --> 00:39:40,123
different vendors on different

1314
00:39:40,123 --> 00:39:41,458
systems is type of systems.

1315
00:39:41,458 --> 00:39:43,559
And we're trying to kind of

1316
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:46,497
streamline all those kind of

1317
00:39:46,497 --> 00:39:47,650
things. And so the systems that

1318
00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:50,670
have been we've been able to

1319
00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:51,635
change to go ahead and pass.

1320
00:39:51,635 --> 00:39:54,635
That forward has been done.

1321
00:39:54,938 --> 00:39:55,305
We found that some of them are

1322
00:39:55,305 --> 00:39:57,274
over 3%. And so.

1323
00:39:57,274 --> 00:39:59,376
We're having to pay it out of

1324
00:39:59,376 --> 00:40:00,245
work, collecting the dollars.

1325
00:40:00,245 --> 00:40:00,778
But we were kept the 3% because

1326
00:40:00,778 --> 00:40:03,778
that's what we asked. The

1327
00:40:03,781 --> 00:40:04,181
council is just an increase in

1328
00:40:04,181 --> 00:40:06,116
the cap.

1329
00:40:06,116 --> 00:40:07,184
So yeah, Mahle widely to to

1330
00:40:07,184 --> 00:40:09,119
see who's charging more than

1331
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:09,720
3% does believe it's be said it

1332
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:10,220
actually charge under spies

1333
00:40:10,220 --> 00:40:12,900
that they're charging a

1334
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:14,458
customer of more than 3 and a

1335
00:40:14,458 --> 00:40:15,930
half percent or more. 3%.

1336
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:17,895
>> be really cares to see that

1337
00:40:17,895 --> 00:40:18,428
certainly be some economies of

1338
00:40:18,428 --> 00:40:21,428
scale there. You know, the

1339
00:40:21,765 --> 00:40:22,990
average large businesses paying

1340
00:40:22,990 --> 00:40:23,367
around 2, 2.1%

1341
00:40:23,367 --> 00:40:24,936
And of course, we're going to

1342
00:40:24,936 --> 00:40:28,173
pass that on shore. But it's at

1343
00:40:28,173 --> 00:40:29,139
least one lesson that spent

1344
00:40:29,139 --> 00:40:30,874
and quite frankly, there.

1345
00:40:30,874 --> 00:40:31,475
If you're spending that much

1346
00:40:31,475 --> 00:40:32,750
money to your smart about, if

1347
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:34,945
you're lucky enough to have a

1348
00:40:34,945 --> 00:40:35,546
3% cash back and look at charts

1349
00:40:35,546 --> 00:40:38,160
to net percent great like I'm

1350
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,616
going to use my credit card,

1351
00:40:38,616 --> 00:40:41,186
right? You're going to. Like,

1352
00:40:41,186 --> 00:40:42,530
like Michael said, you're gonna

1353
00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:43,654
get your miles real quick.

1354
00:40:43,654 --> 00:40:44,488
But I just like to see what

1355
00:40:44,488 --> 00:40:45,123
we're paying. And is that

1356
00:40:45,123 --> 00:40:46,957
something that we we put an rfp

1357
00:40:46,957 --> 00:40:48,792
out on or credit card

1358
00:40:48,792 --> 00:40:50,260
processing cause? That's so

1359
00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:50,828
yes, I think we do it from the

1360
00:40:50,828 --> 00:40:52,630
different for the different

1361
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:55,300
vendors. And worst Reggie

1362
00:40:55,566 --> 00:40:56,568
Reggie.

1363
00:40:56,568 --> 00:40:57,135
>> He's maybe even getting one.

1364
00:40:57,135 --> 00:40:57,735
>> Credit card processor for

1365
00:40:57,735 --> 00:41:00,671
all of them end up. There is I

1366
00:41:00,671 --> 00:41:03,541
can see getting an even better

1367
00:41:03,541 --> 00:41:05,175
rate.

1368
00:41:05,175 --> 00:41:08,646
>> Yes, the that process it has

1369
00:41:08,646 --> 00:41:11,748
been our speed over the years.

1370
00:41:11,748 --> 00:41:13,685
And as Jay indicated, it's a

1371
00:41:13,685 --> 00:41:14,619
decentralized process. We have

1372
00:41:14,619 --> 00:41:16,620
several systems that are

1373
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:19,620
managed by that have been

1374
00:41:19,624 --> 00:41:20,892
implemented over the years.

1375
00:41:20,892 --> 00:41:23,696
And so, yes, the city has

1376
00:41:23,696 --> 00:41:25,696
considered and standardize

1377
00:41:25,729 --> 00:41:27,665
process a bit. But, you know,

1378
00:41:27,665 --> 00:41:30,468
with a little bit behind.

1379
00:41:30,468 --> 00:41:32,868
>> And in doing that.

1380
00:41:34,238 --> 00:41:34,706
>> The credit card fees are

1381
00:41:34,706 --> 00:41:36,240
charged by the various

1382
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,976
merchants and there's not not a

1383
00:41:37,976 --> 00:41:40,979
whole lot we can do about that.

1384
00:41:40,979 --> 00:41:41,546
And I think the change is just

1385
00:41:41,546 --> 00:41:42,113
simply to ensure the city's

1386
00:41:42,113 --> 00:41:44,810
reimbursed.

1387
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:45,983
>> Right. And my point there is

1388
00:41:45,983 --> 00:41:46,551
just what the city can do and

1389
00:41:46,551 --> 00:41:47,180
that's negotiate those rates

1390
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:49,418
with those credit card

1391
00:41:49,787 --> 00:41:52,187
processors because that is

1392
00:41:52,957 --> 00:41:53,893
easily negotiable.

1393
00:41:53,893 --> 00:41:54,459
That's one thing I just like

1394
00:41:54,459 --> 00:41:57,462
us to look at, because it's

1395
00:41:57,462 --> 00:41:58,596
easy to say that's the rate

1396
00:41:58,596 --> 00:41:59,631
that.

1397
00:41:59,631 --> 00:42:00,232
We can find vendors who will

1398
00:42:00,232 --> 00:42:02,267
charge a lot less because they

1399
00:42:02,267 --> 00:42:02,801
want the business with the city

1400
00:42:02,801 --> 00:42:05,801
of Fort Worth because are.

1401
00:42:05,804 --> 00:42:08,804
>> They're gonna count act with

1402
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,800
some data.

1403
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:12,645
Be as easy to negotiate that.

1404
00:42:12,645 --> 00:42:15,980
>> Right to an rfp process you

1405
00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:16,314
can. That's kind of what you

1406
00:42:16,314 --> 00:42:18,714
get in on the.

1407
00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:19,384
>> I mean, it's business.

1408
00:42:19,384 --> 00:42:21,854
It's if you reduce the business

1409
00:42:21,854 --> 00:42:22,487
with the city of forward, a

1410
00:42:22,487 --> 00:42:26,870
number 2% of them. I would want

1411
00:42:26,392 --> 00:42:27,250
that business from city forward

1412
00:42:27,250 --> 00:42:29,894
because the amount it also tied

1413
00:42:29,894 --> 00:42:30,361
to the fees they charge us for

1414
00:42:30,361 --> 00:42:32,761
our vendor. Right? So

1415
00:42:32,897 --> 00:42:35,633
>> one might have a better

1416
00:42:35,633 --> 00:42:36,268
credit card fee to the end.

1417
00:42:36,268 --> 00:42:36,868
User should be charging them to

1418
00:42:36,868 --> 00:42:38,236
be a vendor, right? I mean one

1419
00:42:38,236 --> 00:42:41,373
or visit us the more expensive

1420
00:42:41,373 --> 00:42:41,973
on a system side, right process

1421
00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:44,944
in the building. I don't go to

1422
00:42:44,944 --> 00:42:48,147
Don the red hold and it's

1423
00:42:48,147 --> 00:42:50,147
expensive.

1424
00:42:51,250 --> 00:42:51,884
So is the as I in front of you

1425
00:42:51,884 --> 00:42:54,854
is an equivalent on those items

1426
00:42:54,854 --> 00:42:55,554
at this. The department's came

1427
00:42:55,554 --> 00:42:56,889
back.

1428
00:42:56,889 --> 00:42:57,456
As you'll see the the average

1429
00:42:57,456 --> 00:43:00,458
tax bill for what it's worth

1430
00:43:00,458 --> 00:43:01,260
would still be below the

1431
00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:03,260
current one.

1432
00:43:04,262 --> 00:43:05,130
Confirmed that it would be

1433
00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:06,831
another.

1434
00:43:06,831 --> 00:43:09,231
Not almost to 1.5 million

1435
00:43:11,504 --> 00:43:12,605
before we would get to people

1436
00:43:12,605 --> 00:43:13,139
too. The current tax rate.

1437
00:43:13,139 --> 00:43:14,840
Or the current bill would

1438
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,440
match. The new bill would match

1439
00:43:18,811 --> 00:43:19,778
the current bill. So that's the

1440
00:43:19,778 --> 00:43:20,980
at this point. You can still

1441
00:43:20,980 --> 00:43:23,181
make the argument that the

1442
00:43:23,181 --> 00:43:25,617
average taxpayer would pay less

1443
00:43:25,617 --> 00:43:28,921
with her if you wanted to

1444
00:43:28,921 --> 00:43:29,989
increase the tax rate. Based on

1445
00:43:29,989 --> 00:43:30,990
what we provided today.

1446
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:32,558
We're back. Yeah, I'm sorry.

1447
00:43:32,558 --> 00:43:33,292
I just want to make sure that

1448
00:43:33,292 --> 00:43:36,196
I'm clear. So if we look at it

1449
00:43:36,196 --> 00:43:37,963
and budget response, number 20,

1450
00:43:37,963 --> 00:43:39,732
I'm not 20.

1451
00:43:39,732 --> 00:43:40,500
>> 19 that had all of the

1452
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:42,468
positions. What you're saying

1453
00:43:42,468 --> 00:43:43,335
is this handout. Here is the

1454
00:43:43,335 --> 00:43:45,370
cost difference. If we brought

1455
00:43:45,370 --> 00:43:47,106
back all of those positions

1456
00:43:47,106 --> 00:43:48,730
notes, the ones that are on

1457
00:43:48,730 --> 00:43:50,473
tied to budget response.

1458
00:43:51,811 --> 00:43:52,411
21 post 21. Okay. All right.

1459
00:43:52,411 --> 00:43:53,647
So the staff, the Aztecs this

1460
00:43:53,647 --> 00:43:54,213
week when departments were

1461
00:43:54,213 --> 00:43:54,781
trying to pick into sort of

1462
00:43:54,781 --> 00:43:57,181
their biggest priorities for

1463
00:43:57,583 --> 00:43:58,284
adding back. That's what I see

1464
00:43:58,284 --> 00:43:58,784
your hand up.

1465
00:43:58,784 --> 00:44:00,986
>> Okay. Lets a pay for

1466
00:44:00,986 --> 00:44:01,387
performance at mid-year for

1467
00:44:01,387 --> 00:44:03,387
general employees.

1468
00:44:05,192 --> 00:44:05,692
>> Are typical. Glad I asked.

1469
00:44:05,692 --> 00:44:06,293
Thank you.

1470
00:44:06,293 --> 00:44:06,893
>> So again, I'm gonna repeat

1471
00:44:06,893 --> 00:44:08,395
that. His anybody to hear it.

1472
00:44:08,395 --> 00:44:10,430
You've on the sheet that he

1473
00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:12,365
said you, that's this one here.

1474
00:44:12,365 --> 00:44:12,966
The top line under restoration

1475
00:44:12,966 --> 00:44:13,467
is increased pay performance.

1476
00:44:13,467 --> 00:44:16,402
That is not in a better

1477
00:44:16,402 --> 00:44:18,337
response, but they articulated

1478
00:44:18,337 --> 00:44:19,138
here based on conversation this

1479
00:44:19,138 --> 00:44:22,107
week. In addition to that at a

1480
00:44:22,107 --> 00:44:25,107
budget response, 21 are each of

1481
00:44:25,177 --> 00:44:27,214
these departments he went

1482
00:44:27,214 --> 00:44:28,130
through and scrub which

1483
00:44:28,130 --> 00:44:29,820
positions would have impacted

1484
00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:29,649
services the most for us to

1485
00:44:29,649 --> 00:44:32,490
consider restoring back into

1486
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:33,720
the originally proposed budget.

1487
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,900
And if you go up and you

1488
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:38,325
compare the budget scenario,

1489
00:44:38,325 --> 00:44:38,858
you've got this year, 2027

1490
00:44:38,858 --> 00:44:40,595
recommended. Then you have

1491
00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:43,530
restorations and you have a

1492
00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:44,970
total there. And what Jay-z

1493
00:44:44,970 --> 00:44:47,970
articulating is if you move

1494
00:44:49,168 --> 00:44:50,570
over to the right column under

1495
00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:52,706
average tax bill, $1642 and

1496
00:44:52,706 --> 00:44:54,407
$0.62 Compare that to the

1497
00:44:54,407 --> 00:44:55,842
current fiscal year 2026.

1498
00:44:55,842 --> 00:44:58,842
Adoption. You are still below

1499
00:44:59,613 --> 00:45:01,347
are costing taxpayers less than

1500
00:45:01,347 --> 00:45:02,150
$8.20 sits on average per year

1501
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:03,751
and their tax bill, even with

1502
00:45:03,751 --> 00:45:06,751
the tax rate increases that

1503
00:45:08,187 --> 00:45:10,290
are necessary to stabilize our

1504
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:11,558
budget and prevent furloughs,

1505
00:45:11,558 --> 00:45:13,393
layoffs and impacts to

1506
00:45:13,393 --> 00:45:14,270
services. So at this point, the

1507
00:45:14,270 --> 00:45:17,270
council really needs to wrestle

1508
00:45:18,898 --> 00:45:19,533
with what's in front of them,

1509
00:45:19,533 --> 00:45:20,133
which is does the body majority

1510
00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:23,604
want to move forward with what

1511
00:45:23,604 --> 00:45:25,472
was recommended originally for

1512
00:45:25,472 --> 00:45:26,640
2027. Do they want to wrestle

1513
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,742
with a 2027 with restorations

1514
00:45:27,742 --> 00:45:28,341
number and at this point would

1515
00:45:28,341 --> 00:45:30,443
be really helpful to staff to

1516
00:45:30,443 --> 00:45:31,110
give some direction where we

1517
00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:34,150
want to go. So at this point

1518
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:38,215
out in the floor, we can have

1519
00:45:38,653 --> 00:45:40,653
that discussion.

1520
00:45:44,992 --> 00:45:47,992
Nobody wants to go first.

1521
00:45:48,228 --> 00:45:50,497
Looking at the 0, 0, 5, 6, I

1522
00:45:50,497 --> 00:45:53,801
mean, I think it's it's stuff,

1523
00:45:53,801 --> 00:45:55,503
but I think it's the reasonably

1524
00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:56,403
prudent thing to do. It's

1525
00:45:56,403 --> 00:45:58,500
>> I think staff did a good job

1526
00:45:58,500 --> 00:45:58,873
of going through and really

1527
00:45:58,873 --> 00:46:00,474
figure out where we can where

1528
00:46:00,474 --> 00:46:03,474
we can cut without really

1529
00:46:03,644 --> 00:46:06,440
affecting service it's it's

1530
00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:09,183
tough. To increase in the rate.

1531
00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:09,750
However. We just have they just

1532
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:12,385
got so much more expensive.

1533
00:46:12,385 --> 00:46:13,554
And I think as long as we can

1534
00:46:13,554 --> 00:46:15,954
really articulate. Going to

1535
00:46:16,557 --> 00:46:17,458
the year, if this is what this

1536
00:46:17,458 --> 00:46:17,992
body decides to approve, I

1537
00:46:17,992 --> 00:46:18,593
think we have to be really

1538
00:46:18,593 --> 00:46:21,329
diligent on the things that we

1539
00:46:21,329 --> 00:46:21,929
do approve going forward and

1540
00:46:21,929 --> 00:46:24,965
making sure that it is a basic

1541
00:46:24,965 --> 00:46:25,599
city service getting back to

1542
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,401
the basics. It's not a bunch of

1543
00:46:28,401 --> 00:46:31,401
nice to haves because it's

1544
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,341
going to be really. It'll be a

1545
00:46:33,341 --> 00:46:35,276
black eye for all of us to

1546
00:46:35,276 --> 00:46:36,770
raise the rate even though it's

1547
00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:38,770
effectively still lowering

1548
00:46:38,212 --> 00:46:41,212
their tax bill. Perhaps most

1549
00:46:41,949 --> 00:46:42,583
are. And I did go up and then

1550
00:46:42,583 --> 00:46:44,352
turn around and give, you know,

1551
00:46:44,352 --> 00:46:46,454
a nonprofit or get someone

1552
00:46:46,454 --> 00:46:47,488
else. You know, millions of

1553
00:46:47,488 --> 00:46:48,422
dollars at the same time.

1554
00:46:48,422 --> 00:46:50,191
So I think it's really careful

1555
00:46:50,191 --> 00:46:50,691
as we go for it. This is what

1556
00:46:50,691 --> 00:46:51,292
we do said to be really

1557
00:46:51,292 --> 00:46:54,292
diligent going forward on the

1558
00:46:55,196 --> 00:46:57,632
dollars we spend and allocate.

1559
00:46:57,632 --> 00:46:58,232
Council home.

1560
00:46:58,232 --> 00:47:01,302
>> Not to devalue which said a

1561
00:47:01,302 --> 00:47:04,302
COUNCILMAN, our staff. I think.

1562
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:06,874
Very often we substitute, you

1563
00:47:06,874 --> 00:47:07,408
know, we consider raising rates

1564
00:47:07,408 --> 00:47:08,910
and we start talking about

1565
00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:11,910
nonprofit and that's where like

1566
00:47:11,946 --> 00:47:13,648
they were giving them money

1567
00:47:13,648 --> 00:47:14,149
often. I hear this body and and

1568
00:47:14,149 --> 00:47:15,516
several colleagues that

1569
00:47:15,516 --> 00:47:17,686
suggests that we rely on

1570
00:47:17,686 --> 00:47:18,286
nonprofits to stand in the gap.

1571
00:47:18,286 --> 00:47:21,255
So I don't think it's fair to

1572
00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:21,956
talk out of both sides of our

1573
00:47:21,956 --> 00:47:23,956
faith to say.

1574
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:24,792
Let's look for nonprofits to do

1575
00:47:24,792 --> 00:47:26,894
certain things. Reports are the

1576
00:47:26,894 --> 00:47:27,461
services and then we start

1577
00:47:27,461 --> 00:47:30,461
talking about tax rates star

1578
00:47:30,731 --> 00:47:31,966
saying that we're giving money

1579
00:47:31,966 --> 00:47:33,966
away to nonprofits.

1580
00:47:34,936 --> 00:47:37,400
>> All right. I guess just to

1581
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,974
which I hear you, however, I

1582
00:47:38,974 --> 00:47:39,541
have never had a single

1583
00:47:39,541 --> 00:47:40,108
nonprofit come to our office

1584
00:47:40,108 --> 00:47:42,844
mic and say, can we help you

1585
00:47:42,844 --> 00:47:44,844
out the infrastructure

1586
00:47:44,847 --> 00:47:45,780
potholes?

1587
00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:47,150
Parks and rec? So no, but they

1588
00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:50,615
are standing in the gap, a

1589
00:47:50,953 --> 00:47:51,886
social services and often and

1590
00:47:51,886 --> 00:47:54,560
this friend, we suggest that we

1591
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:54,656
call upon them to stand in the

1592
00:47:54,656 --> 00:47:55,290
gap for us on social services.

1593
00:47:55,290 --> 00:47:57,826
So they are not in the job in

1594
00:47:57,826 --> 00:47:58,393
the in the business of doing

1595
00:47:58,393 --> 00:48:01,393
pothole. I'm just saying I'm

1596
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:03,599
not the value of point. I just

1597
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,466
want to.

1598
00:48:05,466 --> 00:48:06,534
Remind you remind us that we

1599
00:48:06,534 --> 00:48:07,102
often try to strike a balance

1600
00:48:07,102 --> 00:48:08,202
with nonprofits and it's not

1601
00:48:08,202 --> 00:48:11,802
fair to look at them like

1602
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,309
there's some type of charity

1603
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:16,311
case when we pay for services

1604
00:48:16,311 --> 00:48:17,947
that the nonprofit is, in fact,

1605
00:48:17,947 --> 00:48:18,514
a charity case. I mean, it's

1606
00:48:18,514 --> 00:48:19,114
it's nonprofit. And I think

1607
00:48:19,114 --> 00:48:22,114
that every nonprofit just say

1608
00:48:22,650 --> 00:48:23,318
we have to be very diligent,

1609
00:48:23,318 --> 00:48:23,919
make sure that the money we are

1610
00:48:23,919 --> 00:48:28,119
getting out is to ones who are

1611
00:48:28,389 --> 00:48:30,920
going to be good stewards of

1612
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:30,692
those dollars and the service

1613
00:48:30,692 --> 00:48:31,292
they're providing is one that

1614
00:48:31,292 --> 00:48:31,859
he says that is the got, which

1615
00:48:31,859 --> 00:48:34,960
I completely agree. There's

1616
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:34,663
going to be some that are

1617
00:48:34,663 --> 00:48:35,264
great. They're doing amazing

1618
00:48:35,264 --> 00:48:37,232
work out there. And I want to

1619
00:48:37,232 --> 00:48:39,535
see is continued because it

1620
00:48:39,535 --> 00:48:41,170
that will really reduce the

1621
00:48:41,170 --> 00:48:42,172
burden, I believe on on our

1622
00:48:42,172 --> 00:48:44,273
system. And that's the Senate.

1623
00:48:44,273 --> 00:48:45,207
And so I'm gonna not to belabor

1624
00:48:45,207 --> 00:48:46,241
the point, but let's be

1625
00:48:46,241 --> 00:48:47,377
specific. And in the future

1626
00:48:47,377 --> 00:48:48,243
when we make a statement,

1627
00:48:48,243 --> 00:48:48,844
that's all I'm asking. If we're

1628
00:48:48,844 --> 00:48:49,478
going to throw that out there

1629
00:48:49,478 --> 00:48:51,346
into the East Coast. Let's just

1630
00:48:51,346 --> 00:48:52,915
be specific about when to

1631
00:48:52,915 --> 00:48:53,415
nonprofits. We're talking about

1632
00:48:53,415 --> 00:48:55,815
which ones with incident

1633
00:48:56,852 --> 00:48:57,386
charity cases, which ones were

1634
00:48:57,386 --> 00:48:57,953
considering part well, and

1635
00:48:57,953 --> 00:48:59,855
that's where people's has a

1636
00:48:59,855 --> 00:49:00,355
question. Maybe I'll ask for

1637
00:49:00,355 --> 00:49:00,890
she and her Brady in the

1638
00:49:00,890 --> 00:49:02,925
overall budget process and

1639
00:49:02,925 --> 00:49:03,858
working with departments.

1640
00:49:03,858 --> 00:49:05,858
I would assume.

1641
00:49:05,861 --> 00:49:06,796
>> That our departments really

1642
00:49:06,796 --> 00:49:07,297
looked closely at additional

1643
00:49:07,297 --> 00:49:09,163
services that were being

1644
00:49:09,163 --> 00:49:11,340
provided external to the city

1645
00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:13,169
are contracts that we had as a

1646
00:49:13,169 --> 00:49:13,902
part of their 3% or one percent

1647
00:49:13,902 --> 00:49:14,470
cuts to either of you have any

1648
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:15,300
additional comment you could

1649
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:16,472
make about that process or

1650
00:49:16,472 --> 00:49:19,472
things that you saw for

1651
00:49:19,775 --> 00:49:22,770
departments. And I'll turn

1652
00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:22,711
accounts for peoples.

1653
00:49:22,711 --> 00:49:23,212
>> I would say, well, you know,

1654
00:49:23,212 --> 00:49:23,746
it's a went through the

1655
00:49:23,746 --> 00:49:24,347
process. And when we asked

1656
00:49:24,347 --> 00:49:26,816
departments to cut one percent

1657
00:49:26,816 --> 00:49:30,353
and 3%, we did the same thing

1658
00:49:30,353 --> 00:49:33,353
with. Partners that we provide

1659
00:49:33,523 --> 00:49:36,459
funds to. So we. They took the

1660
00:49:36,459 --> 00:49:37,600
impact as well.

1661
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,427
>> You have an example. Maybe

1662
00:49:38,427 --> 00:49:39,270
Jay, you can pry the clears.

1663
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:41,897
Ones are the 3 chambers of the

1664
00:49:41,897 --> 00:49:42,531
lower chamber's been

1665
00:49:42,531 --> 00:49:44,330
African-American

1666
00:49:44,330 --> 00:49:44,634
black chamber, commerce that

1667
00:49:44,634 --> 00:49:47,469
they you know, we went to them

1668
00:49:47,469 --> 00:49:49,172
and say especially the first we

1669
00:49:49,172 --> 00:49:49,706
didn't ask for that. But it's

1670
00:49:49,706 --> 00:49:50,306
when we got further in the

1671
00:49:50,306 --> 00:49:52,942
process. And when you the gap

1672
00:49:52,942 --> 00:49:54,210
is getting bigger, we said.

1673
00:49:54,210 --> 00:49:57,147
We need to were looking for

1674
00:49:57,147 --> 00:49:59,883
every, you know, diamond, the

1675
00:49:59,883 --> 00:50:00,450
in the cushion. So. They all

1676
00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:02,719
said we understand will look

1677
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,286
at it and we'll come back and

1678
00:50:03,286 --> 00:50:04,687
we can and they'll come back

1679
00:50:04,687 --> 00:50:07,957
and said, yeah, we will make it

1680
00:50:07,957 --> 00:50:11,227
work. So. So we went through

1681
00:50:11,227 --> 00:50:12,162
that process.

1682
00:50:12,162 --> 00:50:13,295
Qatar, people's incomes were

1683
00:50:13,295 --> 00:50:14,330
back.

1684
00:50:14,330 --> 00:50:14,931
>> So, mayor, I want to start

1685
00:50:14,931 --> 00:50:17,700
out by saying I'm gonna catch

1686
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:19,702
my remarks because my budget

1687
00:50:19,702 --> 00:50:22,102
meeting with the community

1688
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:24,874
isn't until AUGUST the 31st.

1689
00:50:24,874 --> 00:50:25,675
But based on the conversations

1690
00:50:25,675 --> 00:50:28,675
that I've had with community

1691
00:50:29,612 --> 00:50:31,514
meetings, the things that j

1692
00:50:31,514 --> 00:50:32,550
brought us today are things

1693
00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:34,950
that my constituents were

1694
00:50:35,350 --> 00:50:37,453
asking for. They ask about

1695
00:50:37,453 --> 00:50:38,210
making sure that we provided

1696
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:40,421
for parks and recreation.

1697
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:42,726
They asked that we go back and

1698
00:50:42,726 --> 00:50:45,228
look at library services and

1699
00:50:45,228 --> 00:50:47,264
me. One of the things I was

1700
00:50:47,264 --> 00:50:49,999
one of the council members Sj

1701
00:50:49,999 --> 00:50:52,903
about going back to look at

1702
00:50:52,903 --> 00:50:53,903
taking care of our employees by

1703
00:50:53,903 --> 00:50:55,905
making sure that we provided

1704
00:50:55,905 --> 00:50:57,741
them opportunities far pay for

1705
00:50:57,741 --> 00:50:59,542
performance because I

1706
00:50:59,542 --> 00:51:00,770
understand employee

1707
00:51:00,770 --> 00:51:02,770
satisfaction and employee

1708
00:51:03,790 --> 00:51:04,130
retention. Some I will just

1709
00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:06,130
tell you.

1710
00:51:07,618 --> 00:51:08,218
I am comfortable and at catch

1711
00:51:08,218 --> 00:51:11,588
that by saying I need to hear

1712
00:51:11,588 --> 00:51:13,556
from the rest of my residents

1713
00:51:13,556 --> 00:51:16,160
on the 31st. But I am

1714
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,128
comfortable that j and team

1715
00:51:19,128 --> 00:51:22,132
went back and did what I

1716
00:51:22,132 --> 00:51:23,300
personally asked them to do

1717
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:24,400
because I feel like residents

1718
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,400
want the services provided to

1719
00:51:28,338 --> 00:51:30,875
them and we need to and we U.S.

1720
00:51:30,875 --> 00:51:31,442
Deal giving them a. We're still

1721
00:51:31,442 --> 00:51:34,442
trying to keep their bills

1722
00:51:35,450 --> 00:51:37,982
manageable. And we came in with

1723
00:51:37,982 --> 00:51:40,784
a right that's below of what

1724
00:51:40,784 --> 00:51:41,485
they mean with the tax I'm

1725
00:51:41,485 --> 00:51:43,654
comfortable with this in j you

1726
00:51:43,654 --> 00:51:46,624
and your staff have done an

1727
00:51:46,624 --> 00:51:50,224
admirable job. I know this was

1728
00:51:50,628 --> 00:51:51,862
it a tough one? I know we ask a

1729
00:51:51,862 --> 00:51:52,429
lot of you, but today I'm

1730
00:51:52,429 --> 00:51:55,429
comfortable now on the 31st.

1731
00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:57,635
Most it MAY change. Thank you.

1732
00:51:57,635 --> 00:51:58,636
Cause we're back.

1733
00:51:58,636 --> 00:51:59,603
>> So I had I actually had my

1734
00:51:59,603 --> 00:52:02,300
budget meeting yesterday and

1735
00:52:02,339 --> 00:52:02,740
I own a j, though those weren't

1736
00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:04,374
plants. I promise.

1737
00:52:04,374 --> 00:52:05,309
>> All of the things that I

1738
00:52:05,309 --> 00:52:07,678
brought up on Tuesday, it was

1739
00:52:07,678 --> 00:52:08,646
like they every person hammered

1740
00:52:08,646 --> 00:52:11,150
at home. But it was we heard a

1741
00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:13,951
lot about not wanting a cut

1742
00:52:13,951 --> 00:52:16,530
in services, particularly when

1743
00:52:16,530 --> 00:52:19,156
it came to Code Library in

1744
00:52:19,156 --> 00:52:20,124
parks, which we all kind of

1745
00:52:20,124 --> 00:52:21,926
communicated and Tuesday.

1746
00:52:21,926 --> 00:52:23,194
I have never been comfortable

1747
00:52:23,194 --> 00:52:24,962
with the fact that we got to

1748
00:52:24,962 --> 00:52:27,832
this budget solution on the

1749
00:52:27,832 --> 00:52:29,733
backs of our employees. It just

1750
00:52:29,733 --> 00:52:32,733
didn't feel right with me.

1751
00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:33,404
We ask so much of them already.

1752
00:52:33,404 --> 00:52:34,238
And if we're honest, government

1753
00:52:34,238 --> 00:52:38,209
work is not one that comes with

1754
00:52:38,209 --> 00:52:39,477
a lot of parks. They don't get

1755
00:52:39,477 --> 00:52:40,111
bonuses. They don't get, you

1756
00:52:40,111 --> 00:52:42,913
know, fun parties are cool swag

1757
00:52:42,913 --> 00:52:43,615
right there coming here for the

1758
00:52:43,615 --> 00:52:46,317
love of the game. And I want to

1759
00:52:46,317 --> 00:52:49,220
make sure that that we're

1760
00:52:49,220 --> 00:52:49,820
taking care of them. So.

1761
00:52:49,820 --> 00:52:50,387
And no one likes an increase,

1762
00:52:50,387 --> 00:52:53,257
but we're already going up.

1763
00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:55,257
You've already recommended 3.2

1764
00:52:58,128 --> 00:53:00,650
And since the increase and this

1765
00:53:00,650 --> 00:53:00,665
minor increase gets us to a

1766
00:53:00,665 --> 00:53:03,635
place where we're not cutting

1767
00:53:03,635 --> 00:53:05,669
services and we're supporting

1768
00:53:05,669 --> 00:53:07,371
our employees. And I think,

1769
00:53:07,371 --> 00:53:07,972
you know, and we still get

1770
00:53:07,972 --> 00:53:08,539
below what their tax bill was

1771
00:53:08,539 --> 00:53:11,476
last year. And I personally

1772
00:53:11,476 --> 00:53:12,243
think that's a win for

1773
00:53:12,243 --> 00:53:14,243
everybody.

1774
00:53:15,547 --> 00:53:17,616
>> Anyone else guess comes from

1775
00:53:17,616 --> 00:53:18,449
a teen is.

1776
00:53:18,449 --> 00:53:21,685
I'm so my budget e of meetings.

1777
00:53:21,685 --> 00:53:23,688
Also coming up on Saturday,

1778
00:53:23,688 --> 00:53:24,589
will this information as

1779
00:53:24,589 --> 00:53:25,557
a second? That's because being

1780
00:53:25,557 --> 00:53:26,124
counseled kind of gives us

1781
00:53:26,124 --> 00:53:26,758
direction. Today will update

1782
00:53:26,758 --> 00:53:29,794
the to let everybody know we're

1783
00:53:29,794 --> 00:53:30,395
we're we're headed at least.

1784
00:53:30,395 --> 00:53:32,397
>> I would really like to see

1785
00:53:32,397 --> 00:53:34,797
included because, you know,

1786
00:53:35,267 --> 00:53:35,901
people need to know that, you

1787
00:53:35,901 --> 00:53:38,901
know, adding this well, provide

1788
00:53:40,405 --> 00:53:42,107
the least impact on service.

1789
00:53:42,107 --> 00:53:42,841
To piggyback on COUNCILMAN

1790
00:53:42,841 --> 00:53:44,809
Martinez, my budget meetings

1791
00:53:44,809 --> 00:53:46,879
that's really held already this

1792
00:53:46,879 --> 00:53:48,712
week files on Tuesday night.

1793
00:53:48,712 --> 00:53:49,681
And if there's going to be some

1794
00:53:49,681 --> 00:53:50,849
changes, is there any way that

1795
00:53:50,849 --> 00:53:52,500
I could call a concept to maybe

1796
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:52,584
get a brief summary so that I

1797
00:53:52,584 --> 00:53:55,754
could fund that day to my

1798
00:53:55,754 --> 00:53:56,321
constituents just to know that

1799
00:53:56,321 --> 00:53:56,721
we have pivoted and to some

1800
00:53:56,721 --> 00:53:58,721
extent with those

1801
00:53:59,123 --> 00:53:59,691
conversations, the numbers that

1802
00:53:59,691 --> 00:54:02,127
we proposed already have to

1803
00:54:02,127 --> 00:54:03,795
have change or we can. We can

1804
00:54:03,795 --> 00:54:04,429
put something together and and

1805
00:54:04,429 --> 00:54:06,264
once we had at the presentation

1806
00:54:06,264 --> 00:54:07,732
to include that with this is

1807
00:54:07,732 --> 00:54:11,100
kind of where we're going, it

1808
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:13,905
will be updated on the website

1809
00:54:13,905 --> 00:54:14,506
is thank you for for us.

1810
00:54:14,506 --> 00:54:17,309
>> Kind of emphasized some of

1811
00:54:17,309 --> 00:54:19,177
these talking points that were

1812
00:54:19,177 --> 00:54:21,790
all having here. I my budget

1813
00:54:21,790 --> 00:54:22,949
meeting is still up coming be

1814
00:54:22,949 --> 00:54:24,516
interesting to see. Hopefully

1815
00:54:24,516 --> 00:54:26,916
get some good participation.

1816
00:54:27,451 --> 00:54:29,200
What I will be looking for that

1817
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,560
was like most Council members

1818
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:31,622
little clarity. What's

1819
00:54:31,622 --> 00:54:34,126
important to, you know, our

1820
00:54:34,126 --> 00:54:36,526
constituents with that said.

1821
00:54:36,529 --> 00:54:39,464
I wish we have all the budget

1822
00:54:39,464 --> 00:54:41,660
meetings, not because I think

1823
00:54:41,660 --> 00:54:41,600
it would help us to reaffirmed

1824
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,503
what our priorities are as

1825
00:54:44,503 --> 00:54:44,969
counsel because I'm still not

1826
00:54:44,969 --> 00:54:47,239
clear on that. I could

1827
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:47,839
articulate what's priorities in

1828
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:49,775
my district, but that doesn't

1829
00:54:49,775 --> 00:54:52,244
necessarily mean it's going to

1830
00:54:52,244 --> 00:54:54,312
match up with everyone else.

1831
00:54:54,312 --> 00:54:56,149
Right? So that's what I'm going

1832
00:54:56,149 --> 00:54:56,849
to be looking forward to.

1833
00:54:56,849 --> 00:54:57,583
And I know that's what's

1834
00:54:57,583 --> 00:55:01,183
intended j when all this is

1835
00:55:01,953 --> 00:55:04,457
done in this exercise is

1836
00:55:04,457 --> 00:55:06,459
completed I'm looking for that.

1837
00:55:06,459 --> 00:55:09,280
What do our priorities look

1838
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:09,629
like following these meetings

1839
00:55:09,629 --> 00:55:10,363
following having received

1840
00:55:10,363 --> 00:55:13,363
public input. Is it then?

1841
00:55:13,932 --> 00:55:15,668
I think we can start making

1842
00:55:15,668 --> 00:55:18,668
more refined choices on right.

1843
00:55:18,970 --> 00:55:20,673
Word caught would reduce and

1844
00:55:20,673 --> 00:55:20,907
we're not too.

1845
00:55:20,907 --> 00:55:21,473
And at.

1846
00:55:21,473 --> 00:55:23,976
>> I can honestly say after

1847
00:55:23,976 --> 00:55:26,912
4 meetings and I meant made the

1848
00:55:26,912 --> 00:55:28,912
comment last night.

1849
00:55:28,915 --> 00:55:30,215
COUNCILWOMAN That refer to

1850
00:55:30,215 --> 00:55:33,215
after 2 or 3 speakers and one

1851
00:55:33,820 --> 00:55:35,454
person kind of brought their

1852
00:55:35,454 --> 00:55:35,922
list of grievances

1853
00:55:35,922 --> 00:55:38,322
that merit exactly the

1854
00:55:38,658 --> 00:55:41,580
conversation from this group

1855
00:55:41,327 --> 00:55:41,894
on Tuesday. And so these items

1856
00:55:41,894 --> 00:55:44,894
that were brought up Tuesday

1857
00:55:44,897 --> 00:55:46,932
is exactly what we're hearing

1858
00:55:46,932 --> 00:55:48,932
from.

1859
00:55:49,235 --> 00:55:50,702
The 4 meetings we've had so

1860
00:55:50,702 --> 00:55:52,371
far that folks are saying.

1861
00:55:52,371 --> 00:55:54,340
You know, somebody said last

1862
00:55:54,340 --> 00:55:56,441
night the other day you're

1863
00:55:56,441 --> 00:55:58,110
already proposing a. The tax

1864
00:55:58,110 --> 00:56:00,510
rate increase. Nobody wants

1865
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:02,548
less services because a little

1866
00:56:02,548 --> 00:56:03,182
bit more to.

1867
00:56:03,182 --> 00:56:03,816
Get get us back. Those services

1868
00:56:03,816 --> 00:56:05,218
would rather do that because it

1869
00:56:05,218 --> 00:56:08,218
doesn't look like you're not

1870
00:56:08,521 --> 00:56:09,880
going to have a decrease on the

1871
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:09,621
tax rate.

1872
00:56:09,621 --> 00:56:11,991
It doesn't make that much

1873
00:56:11,991 --> 00:56:13,792
difference. If it's not going

1874
00:56:13,792 --> 00:56:14,827
to change or overall customer

1875
00:56:14,827 --> 00:56:15,461
on. That was a comment last

1876
00:56:15,461 --> 00:56:18,461
night, but it's been consistent

1877
00:56:18,931 --> 00:56:19,632
in every meeting. I think

1878
00:56:19,632 --> 00:56:21,601
there's. I would guess maybe

1879
00:56:21,601 --> 00:56:24,601
100 people so far to the 4

1880
00:56:25,504 --> 00:56:26,640
meetings 120 people. There's

1881
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,708
been one person that says and

1882
00:56:27,708 --> 00:56:28,273
all they said was I like lower

1883
00:56:28,273 --> 00:56:30,576
value like lower taxes. And

1884
00:56:30,576 --> 00:56:31,210
that was his comment and

1885
00:56:31,210 --> 00:56:34,460
everybody else. It's that's the

1886
00:56:34,460 --> 00:56:37,500
only person out of all of that.

1887
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,850
Is that so? Yeah, we have a

1888
00:56:39,850 --> 00:56:39,685
server results and you know

1889
00:56:39,685 --> 00:56:41,521
that that chart that shows the

1890
00:56:41,521 --> 00:56:42,530
departments that went up versus

1891
00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:45,459
the ones to gun down. That

1892
00:56:45,459 --> 00:56:46,893
mayor is almost exactly this.

1893
00:56:46,893 --> 00:56:48,629
Non scientific survey that we

1894
00:56:48,629 --> 00:56:51,698
put out to the public this

1895
00:56:51,698 --> 00:56:52,798
summer. And so, Jay, back to

1896
00:56:52,798 --> 00:56:54,600
you. So

1897
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,735
>> I haven't had my meeting it.

1898
00:56:55,735 --> 00:56:59,573
But I told you I've heard from

1899
00:56:59,573 --> 00:57:01,708
multiple people in this is what

1900
00:57:01,708 --> 00:57:02,676
I heard. And I just got a text

1901
00:57:02,676 --> 00:57:04,178
that said good job. Go for it.

1902
00:57:04,178 --> 00:57:06,947
So I think, you know, residents

1903
00:57:06,947 --> 00:57:09,683
do watch this and I hope people

1904
00:57:09,683 --> 00:57:10,417
are listening or looking now.

1905
00:57:10,417 --> 00:57:14,170
But the consensus I have unless

1906
00:57:14,353 --> 00:57:14,954
it changes on the 31st is that

1907
00:57:14,954 --> 00:57:16,423
people want don't want to drop

1908
00:57:16,423 --> 00:57:18,392
and services and they're

1909
00:57:18,392 --> 00:57:19,326
willing to pay a little bit

1910
00:57:19,326 --> 00:57:20,627
more are see a little bit of an

1911
00:57:20,627 --> 00:57:21,260
increase because they won't

1912
00:57:21,260 --> 00:57:24,198
be paying more. But he a little

1913
00:57:24,198 --> 00:57:26,899
bit of an increase to get

1914
00:57:26,899 --> 00:57:28,899
those.

1915
00:57:29,369 --> 00:57:29,936
>> Yes, thank you. I do want to

1916
00:57:29,936 --> 00:57:31,936
support this recommendation.

1917
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,873
And a note comes, asa still

1918
00:57:33,873 --> 00:57:36,273
being talked around. Other

1919
00:57:37,711 --> 00:57:38,278
things that we can do. And I

1920
00:57:38,278 --> 00:57:41,448
want to Thao directly to our

1921
00:57:41,448 --> 00:57:43,848
employees. I general employees

1922
00:57:44,184 --> 00:57:44,784
because I think

1923
00:57:44,784 --> 00:57:45,385
they are the heartbeat of our

1924
00:57:45,385 --> 00:57:48,385
community. And what makes the

1925
00:57:49,923 --> 00:57:50,858
city wants a parks department.

1926
00:57:50,858 --> 00:57:52,858
Alright, couple compliance

1927
00:57:54,930 --> 00:57:54,862
ashtray teen and there were

1928
00:57:54,862 --> 00:57:55,462
concerns

1929
00:57:55,462 --> 00:57:58,462
raises are not getting raises

1930
00:57:59,433 --> 00:58:01,336
and we know cost of living goes

1931
00:58:01,336 --> 00:58:01,902
up every year. And so this

1932
00:58:01,902 --> 00:58:04,872
budget supports to make sure

1933
00:58:04,872 --> 00:58:06,773
they can still put food on our

1934
00:58:06,773 --> 00:58:09,173
table. And I remind

1935
00:58:09,844 --> 00:58:10,343
you that even a county last

1936
00:58:10,343 --> 00:58:10,943
year get a tax decrease.

1937
00:58:10,943 --> 00:58:14,448
But they also got rid of the

1938
00:58:14,448 --> 00:58:15,149
whole department with 100 plus

1939
00:58:15,149 --> 00:58:18,152
jobs and I want to make sure

1940
00:58:18,152 --> 00:58:19,453
that I'm please know that we

1941
00:58:19,453 --> 00:58:19,987
value here. We certainly not

1942
00:58:19,987 --> 00:58:22,991
going to be could mean the

1943
00:58:22,991 --> 00:58:23,924
body's Joplin departments.

1944
00:58:23,924 --> 00:58:24,725
And if that

1945
00:58:24,725 --> 00:58:25,359
costs us to raise at Texas,

1946
00:58:25,359 --> 00:58:28,663
then that's what we want to

1947
00:58:28,663 --> 00:58:29,497
do. And so I can support what

1948
00:58:29,497 --> 00:58:32,497
you have to post today.

1949
00:58:32,767 --> 00:58:35,167
Any other comments from

1950
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:36,538
council?

1951
00:58:36,538 --> 00:58:37,710
Again, your staff's and an

1952
00:58:37,710 --> 00:58:38,106
awesome job.

1953
00:58:38,106 --> 00:58:38,906
>> Jay, I know this has not

1954
00:58:38,906 --> 00:58:39,541
been easy. If you listen really

1955
00:58:39,541 --> 00:58:41,475
across the state and several

1956
00:58:41,475 --> 00:58:43,644
jurisdictions are all grappling

1957
00:58:43,644 --> 00:58:45,450
with budgets. And I'm just

1958
00:58:45,450 --> 00:58:45,547
really proud. Also this body

1959
00:58:45,547 --> 00:58:48,249
to to Alice, give staff

1960
00:58:48,249 --> 00:58:49,116
direction as we move forward in

1961
00:58:49,116 --> 00:58:50,510
future meetings. So it sounds

1962
00:58:50,510 --> 00:58:51,151
like follow-up that Kristi and

1963
00:58:51,151 --> 00:58:52,152
her team will provide kind of a

1964
00:58:52,152 --> 00:58:53,870
summary of what these changes

1965
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look like to all council

1966
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members will be helpful.

1967
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Future meetings and also those

1968
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of you that already had budget

1969
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meetings as well. And then it

1970
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might be helpful just one more

1971
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time to articulate the timing

1972
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of what we're going to do in

1973
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the next month before we vote

1974
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on the final budget to give

1975
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your body time, you do have

1976
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plenty of time. We're just got

1977
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this recommendation front of

1978
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you to allow staff to run with

1979
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this rather than the original

1980
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proposed budget present.

1981
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>> So on AUGUST, 25th, so

1982
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Tuesday's regular work session

1983
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meeting, we have a place Holder

1984
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for budget, follow-ups and

1985
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items. They're just as part of

1986
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the regular meeting. We have

1987
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continued community engagement

1988
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into next week with the last

1989
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meeting occurring on SEPTEMBER

1990
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for 3rd. And we have a budget

1991
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public hearing special called

1992
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meeting at 02:00pm on SEPTEMBER

1993
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first. So that's just with all

1994
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of you at once hearing from

1995
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many community members who

1996
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would like to speak on the

1997
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budget and then you're

1998
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scheduled to adopt the tax rate

1999
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in the budget on SEPTEMBER.

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15th.

2001
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Any other questions on this

2002
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topic before we even to ccpd.