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spend all my time
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we're actually going to have one at the
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school stuff

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thank you anthony that's your big smile

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um

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uh this is the city council budget
workshop thursday may 6

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2021. y'all please buy red and join me
in our invitation

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my dear heavenly father we thank you for
this beautiful day and this beautiful

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weekend this beautiful city
please bless us as we look at the city's

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finances and do what's best for
our employees our residents uh and our

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businesses
and uh please use us to

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service your will uh

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the united states of america as to the
republic for which it stands

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one nation under god indivisible

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budget workshop our first one was a few
weeks back when we had our

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annual presentation from our financial
advisors first tryon

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tonight we're going to get a little bit
deeper into what

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staff is presenting to you all for our
fiscal year 2021

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2022 annual budget
including all of our funds um

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yes naomi reid our assistant city
administrator and finance director is

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going to
provide you a presentation it's going to

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be pretty high level
um but she is happy to go into

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details and answer questions and without
further ado

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you have it

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thank you sean thank you mayor and
council and our department heads

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sandra our city clerk um
i do want to start off by apologizing

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for not getting this information sooner
you will have the budget in full the

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budget transmittal letter
the fee schedule the budget ordinance

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and
all the detail for every line item

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before you well before our first reading
so hope to get that to you by monday

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just in case you have questions
um sean and i'll be happy to answer them

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get what the apartment heads and get any
clarifying items before we head the

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first reading

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i also did notice that i stapled two of
the same pages to your packet so we'll

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just skip right through that when i get
there

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like sean said this is our second budget
workshop um the first one we discussed

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are capital items for every fund
left that workshop with some some

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lingering questions
and i got together and we developed the

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budget
as presented for your consideration our

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first reading

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this workshop i would like to get
feedback and direction

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from city council um to finalize the fy
22 budget

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um i would like you all to review and
and go with us through the assumptions

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that sean and i made while developing
the budget

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and then understand our methodology for
priorities we place on service

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enhancements and our capital improvement
projects

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in the presentation

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so a couple months ago city council got
together

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and met at a budget retreat where
you all discussed in length your budget

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priorities and goals
and i left from that workshop and i

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remember mayor mcglier making
a statement and it was um after a long

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discussion of
what city council's goals and and for

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fountain in and what his founding means
to city council

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it got a little quiet and then the mayor
said to providing to preserve a sense of

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community through shared experiences
and so i took that that quote and um

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framed it around how we were going to
present the budget to you all

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and have the department heads keep that
in mind while they were developing their

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budgets
so we pulled from the strategic plan

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document that kevin bronson prepared for
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um a few key items and it's delivering
on city council's

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strategic planning goals we want to make
sure that that's at the top of our

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our for our brains while we're
developing the budget

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um you all discussed in length
addressing the aging infrastructure

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throughout the departments
um specifically in our sewer department

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and our public works
facilities you know we have needs there

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and we are presenting to you a plan to
to fund the public works facility

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in the natural gas facility you all
discuss

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wanting to continue equitable and
inclusive events to enhance community

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relations
uh provide quality service to our

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community um and that's going to be
through

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some customer service initiatives that
we partner with our hr director on to

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train our our employees on
good customer service um our

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while the citizens are coming in to to
to get those city services from us

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um we also want to adapt to the growth
sean does not like the word

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um uh managed growth because it
what does that mean and so he he came up

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with the word adapting to the growth
by balancing economic development and

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preservation of fountain in his
traditional hometown field

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we also have funding to improve our city
facilities and parks

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and to increase personnel and
professional development

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um and you'll see that reflected here if
you have any questions

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i'm going to put that and grab some
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i guess for the record

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people ask questions
begin to reiterate our budget priorities

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was to address the critical
infrastructure

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um have a heavy emphasis on our
commitment to beautification

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employee benefits um as well as employee
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streamline our development review
process and our new business processes

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focus on parts and economic development
initiatives

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how we did that um we
framed our our budget around the the

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term provide and preserve and so as we
go through this you'll

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you'll see that we are either providing
new services or preserving the services

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we have
by improving the maintenance on some of

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the facilities or
um even in putting dollars into our

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employees
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improvements will be reflected in the
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found in natural gas system improvements
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a commitment to beautification um our
new public works director russell

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slatten
um he came in at the tail end of our of

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our budget development process
and took a look at what laurie and roger

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put together and had some
new ideas uh with the focus on grounds

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maintenance and so we split out a
division of grounds maintenance

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in the public works department in this
budget you'll also see

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uh funding for um
a code enforcement officer and also

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funding to
start the process on our jones to 14

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streetscape project
should we hold our questions feel free

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um
russell what does that look like from

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the perspective of ground maintenance
people-wise

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i didn't we didn't add any personnel we
shipped it we were already

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doing a ground maintenance through
sanitation and

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all we did was it was basically make
sanitation dedicated

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only sanitation and pull uh three people
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because we didn't have a supervisor and
a crew lead

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in sanitation so those crew lead came
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supervisor for streets and grounds and i
took two workers

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and we modified the way we were running
our routes and we pulled those over to

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streets
around so really we only have three

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people there now uh
focusing on just uh just a couple hours

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to begin with and then
we'll grow as needed or as

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we would have dictated by sean or city
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so which is going to require additional
equipment

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initially no uh it will be very minor if
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consume a lot of them such as blowers
and weed eaters there will be some

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eventually some
lawn mowers uh possibly tractors but

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they're
they're not on the high end they won't

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be
anything like sanitation trucks or

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anything like that well with under six
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like

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you thank you um public works department
has already started that process

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with the funding that we did have in the
budget for city hall grounds maintenance

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um you'll notice that the sidewalks were
finally pressure washed and the building

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pressure washed as well some new
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the light poles painted and our hanging
baskets are up now

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and so i think forming that division of
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that
really beneficial to the city residents

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and just beautifying our grounds and
and standing out like the great city of

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mountain we are
i saw as you walked in the entrance way

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uh just you know what having some
dedicated

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employees just to that type of thing
what that little bit of difference can

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make
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i was curious about the planters and
when their

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water because when i was downtown a few
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ago a couple of them looked really bad
they were water today

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i mean they looked bad they're supposed
to be water daily

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we have a dedicated individual that goes
around in the morning and hits every

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platter it's supposed to hit every
plattered hanging basket to keep them uh

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fresh and rejuvenated okay because when
actually it was eaten at

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jay peters um for my birthday so late
when you were doing that that may not

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have been the schedule but it is the
schedule

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okay i was just curious and i meant to
ask about it but i just when i saw the

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picture i went
oh i think they've been replanted yes

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they've been rescuing the flowers
just a couple days ago they were

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replaced with

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and we do have the replenishment um by
season in our budget as well

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next up is investing in our employees
and i may spend a good bit of time here

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on this slide as well as sean
um over the past few fiscal years

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we have put a lot of dollars into our
employees

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whether it be salary increases even just
paying for the common class survey

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um increasing our employer portion to
our family coverage

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but it has been uh very nice sitting
down to the table

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with rebecca going through our state
health plan options and seeing how those

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dollars
are going to come right back into

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families in the city of fountain inn so
the cost of the city um it's 288 000

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and that's an estimate we're still
getting those numbers coming in as open

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enrollment
um it's going on um an estimated

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increase of 30
to our health insurance costs and some

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years we've we've done this dollar
amount and salary increases so to be

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able to do this
um in this fiscal year it it does come

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in great time for our city employees but
we did rip the band-aid off this year

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and then you'll see those personnel
expenditures increasing overall about 15

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plus or minus in some lines so it comes
in about 15.94

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um increase in those lines and that's
that's a 50 dollar amount i've never

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seen it since i've been here but um
yeah i think i just want to reiterate

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that
and uh i think in the first year that i

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got here
i i think we just arcola

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councilmember can you meet councilmember
can you meet your vote

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thank you um that i believe
um around 300 000 yeah

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it is what we had increased for
for salary raises colas and things so to

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do
we are still having a two percent cost

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of living increase
plus almost 300 000 increase just for

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the state health plan plus all the other
things that we're going to

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be able to tackle this budget here so it
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it's a it's a very healthy budget
um but you know obviously our finances

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are in good shape but
uh but that is like naomi said that is a

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huge band-aid to rip off in one year
gotta take care of you

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that's right um

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so yes the cost of living increase um in
our personnel

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budget and also rebecca
coming in as an in-house hr we did split

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her out of department
and so you'll see it in your budget

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transmittal letter i'll explain it more
in depth

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but she is apartment 417 now split from
department 411 where sean

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and sandra and myself are um and that
way we can really see the dollars that

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we're committing to
congressional development employee

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screenings
all the hr expenditures that that come

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with an in-house hr department
and so some of those items um in her

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special projects and retention budget
um 50 of that she's allocated to

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sensitivity and diversity
training customer service leadership and

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some health and wellness initiatives

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and this is just a chart um showing the
percentages

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of our total personnel budget that fy 22
personnel budget

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including all benefits and salaries um
eight million six hundred fifty two

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thousand
six hundred ninety two dollars um and

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then that's
across our governmental funds

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make sure i'm telling you right and our
natural gas and our sewer i mean i had

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three different slides before i decided
on this one

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um and so you'll see the the 40
just under 50 percent of the public

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safety budget which it's always like
that for us

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and for most municipalities
anyone have any questions to try one

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this is the right slide until um the
next of our budget priorities is our

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fountain in parks
and channel chime in on this one as well

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um
the master plan for our pd terry city

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park
we're estimating that at about twenty

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three twenty thousand dollars but we do
eventually want to get a citywide master

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plan
um study done and it will exceed twenty

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thousand dollars
um our next item is our sanctify hill

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park and that's our priority for fy22
we want to partner with lawrence county

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as they just recently passed the
lawrence county capital project sales

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tax and earmarked 53 approximately 53
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of that to sanctify hill uh park
improvements

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so we know just from renovating emanuel
sullivan

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park that that's just really scratching
the surface so

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after some community meetings and the
master plan that we will have at the end

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of
this fiscal year we'll be able to put a

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plan together for
for council's consideration and see how

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we can partner
and get the park renovated that'll be

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more of a budget amendment for that one
possibly we do have security partners um

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there's some grant funding available
part grant cdbg funding

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um and we may come in
that's right to kind of give council

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background on that so we did have funds
available this budget year

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uh to do the sanctified hill park
thanks did you stream that now

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yes i have sir question yes sir
okay now because 55 year part

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is part of lawrence county okay and it's
53 000

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so because we're in greenville county is
it our responsibility to give to that

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part or to reuse our foreign for the
uh the business part

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here let me let me get back to that here
in just a second okay

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okay so okay all right so we did have we
had money available this year in our

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budget
to uh to do a sanctified hill

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uh park master plan we hired a
consultant to do that

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real good price uh very reputable
consultants

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we've had our steering committee
meeting already uh councilman dearberry

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is part of that
and we have set a date uh for later in

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may
we're actually going to have a kind of a

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block party
out there and the consultant is going to

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have three
renderings of uh of what the park could

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be
and we're gonna invite the community out

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there and they're gonna all kind of vote
on which

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uh which of those three they like best
uh lead the week leading up to that date

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uh they're gonna be he's the
consultant's gonna be holding a series

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of stakeholder meetings with uh people
like uh representative mark willis for

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funding possibilities
uh other stakeholders in the community

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to get their feedback and talk about
what they want

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for the park but we're not going to have
a real good idea

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about what that part is going to cost
until we get that so it'd be it would be

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really a shot in the dark for us to
budget for it at this at this time

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but once we get that master plan back
and it's cost estimates we can start

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moving forward
already talked to mark willis about you

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know we've never received any lawrence
county part money

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um so that that's an avenue this would
be eligible for cdbg funds

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third there could be a host of other
opportunities of funding

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plus city funding as well so that could
be a budget amendment or what happened

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we just won't see the final number in
this budget that's

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correct

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that's right it's not going to fall on
lawrence county to

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to do it um fortunately they were able
to include it in their lawrence county

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uh penny sales tax so that so we did
have some funds towards that part there

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but we want to leverage those dollars
just because that is the only uh

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improvements that are made to that park
uh but to say that those funds are you

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know if we could do a three or four or
five to one

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matching of that i think would be
wonderful

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i was very excited about the our first
steering committee

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it was a hard experience and wonderful
ideas

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i'm looking forward in the next couple
weeks with him

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um simply but meeting with the
stakeholders and then

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presenting some plans i mean just in the
few minutes

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that we were here once an hour i mean he
had some

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fabulous ideas so and so the plan
would be uh what we are budgeting though

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is to do a similar process
but for pd terry city park and that's

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what that twenty thousand dollars is for
okay during the first workshop you may

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have seen a number
um listed in fy23 but after sean and i

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talked that
you know to hold that kind of money up

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not knowing
when it's going to be uh sufficient just

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didn't seem like the the best use at
this time

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um and not being able to leverage or
know what type of leverages we can have

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for additional grant funding
that's the decision but that is

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definitely still a huge priority
yes

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okay so we did touch on a few of these
things

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um already but the overall budget
highlights that that um

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affect all the funds is that there is no
operating millage increase or debt

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service knowledge increase
um there is a two percent cost of living

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adjustment
the 30 increase in employer health

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insurance costs
and an addition of eight positions and i

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don't have those listed but
the physicians are in the finance

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department for
an accounting manager and the police

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department two sro
officers one patrol officer and one code

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enforcement officer
in our planning and development

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department um an additional planning and
development specialist

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and in department 424 which is our
public works department

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two cdl drivers so code enforcement's
going to report to

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police versus public works yes

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and kind of your question earlier public
works is getting a head count

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edition of two with this budget

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conversation for later but i know we've
had issues recruiting cell

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drivers

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so what we've had success with right now
as a matter of fact

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um officially uh we had
a couple of cdl drivers that were

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working attempt to from capacity
and they just were hired on as of what

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day was
last monday

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the agencies that we're working with are
specifically targeting

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the type of folks that are looking for
this kind of shift because again

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yes it's difficult with so much industry
around us and some of the different

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um types of situations that we have
um it makes it challenging but so far

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we've done
well um and they're continuing to work

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with us that's been the better
um avenue for us as opposed to direct

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tire just simply because again
um it's it's the nature of the beast

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some folks just don't like it after
they're

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there so they get to try it out and we
get to try them out so that's been

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successful for
us also too in the budget um

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is some concessions made for staying
competitive

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so the hourly rate is also has a small
increase but it

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allows us to maintain a certain level of
competitive support

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but when we advertise for direct hires
for cdl positions

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i think it oftentimes gets lumped in
with those people that have cdls

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that are looking for jobs that are
driving semi trucks

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and i think they're all we're often
overlooked because we can't

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uh pay those kind of hourly wages
so this uh working with these staffing

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agencies on this attempt to perms
is working out great for that

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the next slide you have here i thought
it would be very important for our

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council to
to know that staff has been watching and

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monitoring the impacts of
the pandemic on our finances and

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specifically our hospitality tax revenue
and our business license tax revenue

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um when i put this slide together and i
know i'm a super nerd but

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um the the april line here this dip
this is when the pandemic started and so

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we knew that we solved it but just
seeing it on this this graph here

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um it it it just makes me excited i
don't know i like lion grass

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um but you see this this is steady going
along and we really didn't see that big

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of a
dip even um i've seen some other

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municipalities the line
dropped all the way down and some of our

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restaurants were able to stay open
and continue to to maintain their

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employment levels but also keep the
hospitality tax dollars coming in

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another item here is december 20.
this is our christmas festival time and

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we see a huge jump in our
hospitality tax revenue in december

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even higher than in our normal years
december 18 is pretty flat

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compared to our december 19 a little
bump but that's

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that's impressive um and so i think that
speaks to several departments

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it speaks for our restaurants staying
open um and

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and maintaining a fun place for our
residents to be and

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eat and keep those dollars in town and
keeping our christmas festivities

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oh yeah i think if we were to really
want to nerd out maybe naomi could look

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at that
i think if you were to draw a line um

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from point a to point b there you you
you could see

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you can see the how it's gradually
increasing and then you could even

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project
out um and i think what really excites

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me here is that i mean you look at
this april 21 here i mean that is much

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much higher than july of 18.
i mean our rh tax is gradually

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uh increasing so i mean substantially
exactly um and so we are on pace in the

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next couple years to just
continue to continue absolutely

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but but i mean if you look even the
restaurants

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their gross income same restaurants that
were here in july 18

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their gross revenue is increasing as
well

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so the volume is of the restaurants is
doing great yes we are getting more and

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that helps
but uh just seeing those restaurants do

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better themselves is also encouraging

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and i'll detail a little bit more of the
dollar amounts and how

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it increases your beer and i'll add that
trendline

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our next chart is our business license
tax revenue by month

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um also started this one in 2018 um all
the way forward to 2021.

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um this is when sean came on board he
moved the business license and

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permitting function
from public works over to finance um and

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we were able to
do some auditing and and clean up that

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process just a little bit
and we had the staff to to commit to

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that and you can see the the result
of making that switch and so our

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business license tax revenue has
been consistently um maintaining high

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levels which you will see
um in the latter part of 20 that there

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is a dip compared to some of the other
years we did have passed an emergency

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ordinance that deferred our tax revenues
coming in so it's a little skewed um but

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overall
what's what keeps us um on track

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there's it goes all the way out um
projecting some more

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but you'll see our licensed collections
that we've collected to date

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have come in and we've already exceeded
our budget like we budgeted just over

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700
2 000 in our current budget we are we

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collected
723 000 and so we've exceeded budget and

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we
anticipate more receipts to be posted in

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the next few weeks of the
those ones that post date their business

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licenses on april 30th and so
they'll be an updated number and their

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budget transmitter looked better
so we did not uh feel the decline that

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some of our
other municipalities felt in business

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license revenue

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and that's why we're able to continue um
with some of our personnel increases and

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may increase our infrastructure improve
our infrastructure excuse me

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next slide chart
um this is just a graphic of our

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uh total revenue um in our general fund
and you'll see

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that um sean pointed out a little bit
earlier that we do have a healthy mix of

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revenue sources in our general fund
um you'll see 18 of our revenues and

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general funds made up of our licensing
permitting

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um and as sean was saying some other
municipalities rely

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uh close to 50 on license fees and so
we are very healthy by

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our taxes supporting our services and
then our fees and licenses

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um supporting our other services
very healthy i mean it's just straight

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down the center there
um taxes revenues we can keep those

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taxes um
our millage rates low um if we can

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continue to keep a healthy healthy
revenues coming in

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the general assembly um fixed the
business license issue

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for for the time being um but i i don't
think that's gonna ever be off the

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chopping block uh north carolina did
away with their business license

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tax altogether um actually
south carolina is one of the few states

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that actually still has the business
license tax

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um and but the fact that ours
is only making up 18 i think is is good

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for us
um if that ever um came to be

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while it would be a huge hit um
there are some cities where it would

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absolutely be devastating i mean
they would have to lay off half their

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employees
right off the bat where i think we would

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be able to to manage
for a little while and that 18

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includes our permit fees as well and so
the total

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amount of that is 1800 1
322 and so 800

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000 of that is our business license
revenue um

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local tax

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we recently went to greenville county
submitted our application in greenville

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county and we
will be having our presentation

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scheduled for monday at
4 o'clock um and so i had a really good

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call with
mr john hanson administrator

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and he's looking forward to our
presentation and so i

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we went ahead and put those village
dollars in this budget and that's the

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increase

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again another another chart um it's our
general fund

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expenditures um and you'll see our
police and fire public safety making up

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about 50
of that 9 million 186 dollar

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expenditures across our general fund

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i don't really have all my charts here i
just didn't have time to give you all

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more information
um on that to break it down but you will

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have it in your budget transmittal
um with how the increase in our

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departments were operating you kind of
kept them

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flat because even personnel was going to
to jump up there so our normal operating

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we kept them
flat as much as we could

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so next we'll talk about um our capital
and um

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if you recall when i can't remember his
name right off now

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first trying representative came and did
his presentation um there were a few

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items that um staff had to to make a
decision on based on council's feedback

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and um it was how to fund some of these
larger

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debt funded items through the iprb um
and that was to increase our debt

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service millage of the
we was presented at that time five meals

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four point six meals um so sean and i
went back to the drawing board and

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00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,240
uh looked at our our new
models and and we saw that we had an

457
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:03,920
opportunity
to to decrease that and actually just

458
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:08,560
wipe it out completely by using
hospitality tax

459
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:13,839
um dollars and using that fund to pay a
million dollars towards the jones 418

460
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,880
streetscape project
and so some of the other assumptions for

461
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,480
our capital um
is that all transfers except for the

462
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,599
reduction and certain transfers made in
the previous iterations of the model

463
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,440
were tied to the issues of our current
2019

464
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:30,720
installment purchase revenue bond um
they are projected to remain flat

465
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,240
some of our transfers and so you won't
see many fluctuations in our transfers

466
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,440
from our natural gas onto our general
fund

467
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:42,240
we just moved the lines that they were
going to transfer into

468
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:45,599
um it's wordy
i don't want to read it all um but i do

469
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,680
anticipate
in the future a millage increase um if

470
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,839
we want to continue funding our capital
projects at this level

471
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:58,800
or we will diminish our fund balance to
a detrimental

472
00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:02,400
level we do not or our revenues will
have to continue to go up so there's

473
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:08,000
lots of balance and things to go on but
i think um

474
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:11,359
we do have a village bank and we can use
it and it does help with some operating

475
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,200
and i'll include that as well
um just for your consideration but this

476
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,599
month this budget does not include a
village experience

477
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,240
how many years since there's been a
village increase forever a long

478
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:25,839
long time long time ago and while our
revenues are great and they're doing

479
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:31,520
well and and
naomi can attest founded finances have

480
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,440
never been in its greatest shape
but we found ends also probably never

481
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,960
tackled
the level of projects that were

482
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,800
attempting to tackle right now
with the emanuel sullivan sports complex

483
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:47,599
a new
public works facility a streetscape

484
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,520
you know we we're going to need a new
city hall

485
00:40:51,520 --> 00:41:00,240
we've got some big ticket items plus we
have to continue adding personnel

486
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:07,040
um we are we're going to have to
raise raise millage um at some point

487
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:11,040
and naomi and i agree that it's best to
do it incrementally

488
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:15,520
um rather than you know a few years back
when we when we raised that

489
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:19,359
public works fee it was a shock to the
system there

490
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:22,160
because it hadn't been done in forever i
think if we were

491
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,880
to gradually do it it's not such a shock
to the system

492
00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:40,560
next slide just break down our financing
plan our funding plan for some of the

493
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:44,880
debt funded projects in our general fund
we identified 11.7 million dollars of

494
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:48,560
near-term capital projects
that can be funded with debt they break

495
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,400
down it's five million dollars for our
public works and natural gas facilities

496
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:56,079
with one million dollars of that being
funded by the general fund a million

497
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,920
dollars being funded by the sewer fund
and two and a half million dollars

498
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,520
funded by the natural gas fund
uh the next project is a 2 million

499
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,839
dollar 418 street skate improvement
project

500
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,520
again with a million dollars being
funded by hospitality and a million

501
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:16,319
dollars funded out of general fund
where will the other half a million come

502
00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:22,240
from from the public
that's 4.5 i think it was supposed to be

503
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:39,440
um again in our sewer department super
funds excuse me rehab replacement of our

504
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:45,280
sewer line
um of two million dollars and our fire

505
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:48,560
related expenses which is the
substation three it's not reflected in

506
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,079
our
operating budget because it's contingent

507
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:56,079
on the fire service village
increase being collected by greenville

508
00:42:53,599 --> 00:43:00,400
county and those funds uh
do not touch our i want to highlight

509
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:03,920
just a couple of things
um one i don't want to underscore the

510
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,599
importance
of the streetscape improvement if you've

511
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:13,440
been looking at greenville news in the
post and career greenville lately

512
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:16,640
while we cannot always be
looking at our peer communities to see

513
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,240
what they're doing
but if you'll read cities cities of

514
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:24,319
simpsonville and malden
are about to undergo two huge

515
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,440
streetscape improvement projects
um and i think in order for us to stay

516
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:32,240
competitive
in the golden strip um i think this is

517
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:36,880
something that that we really need to do
i think they're trying to emulate

518
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,520
what we've already done in our downtown
um

519
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:43,599
and and i really think that the the
amount of private investment

520
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,480
that will flow into that south main
street there once that streetscape is

521
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,960
done
uh we'll more than pay back that two

522
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:55,280
million dollars over time
and then as far as the the sewer line

523
00:43:53,280 --> 00:44:00,960
improvement
our our sewer engineers have estimated

524
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:07,440
approximately four million dollars
left to rehab our entire

525
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:11,760
uh sewer system all of our remaining
clay pipe

526
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:17,119
all of our remaining uh manholes
we have a current ria project right now

527
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,800
that is undergoing
and what we've done is applied for a

528
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,920
state revolving
loan uh fund for that two million

529
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,599
dollars which is
virtually interest-free it is like one

530
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:31,200
percent interest
uh we've not been approved for that yet

531
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:38,319
but if we if we are
um that is a wonderful wonderful way

532
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:42,319
to uh to pay for that um
if we can get that 2 million plus that

533
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:48,640
raa done
we will be have one of probably the best

534
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:53,760
sewer systems in the whole upstate we
will have almost a virtually

535
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:58,800
uh rehab sewer system
we could have the whole sewer system

536
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:02,160
rehabbed within the next five years
which is pretty incredible

537
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:12,960
we're watching this will be another
conversation for another day

538
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:16,400
but um the eligible uses of the arp
money we're getting

539
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:21,200
for silver infrastructure that could
lessen

540
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:26,319
this burden yep um
so what let's say srf

541
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:31,200
decides we they don't want to fund us
that or

542
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:37,440
if we want to uh to add
to just finish out the rehab or

543
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:42,480
use that money to pay the debt uh
payments on it

544
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:47,040
but yes the arp funds specifically said
water sewer and broadband infrastructure

545
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,319
so those stimulus dollars can definitely
be used for sewer rehab

546
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:57,440
we do commit could continue to monitor
um

547
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:01,680
every outlet we can to get as much
guidance as we can

548
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:06,480
to make sure we are being as creative as
we can with those dollars

549
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:12,400
for development we also have two hundred
thousand dollars in our solid waste fund

550
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:15,920
and that is two vehicles and a piece of
equipment

551
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:21,040
um initial budget was 562 thousand
dollars before

552
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:27,119
uh russ took a look at it and um removed
one arm bandit um and so he

553
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:29,680
the system that you're going to use you
might explain in the back the pickup

554
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:33,280
truck and that
additional piece that will go into that

555
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,560
truck to pick up
um be able to cull the stacks we talked

556
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,240
about
oh yes it's called a uh and basically

557
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,520
it's very
a smaller unit it's an f1 they have 250

558
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:49,040
with basically a dump body on it
and what it does is it's got multiple

559
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,560
uses one
usually if somebody calls and uh says

560
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:55,040
that you didn't pick up my garbage we
sent a garbage truck out to pick this up

561
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:58,400
which is how
incredibly inefficient now we have an

562
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,599
f-250 we can send out
it doesn't we don't have to have a cdl

563
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:04,800
driver to pick them up
also allows us to get into the uh narrow

564
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:08,160
streets
and service them we can actually use it

565
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:10,160
as another garbage truck because it does
dump

566
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:14,640
in the back of our current garbage
trucks and uh it also can be used in

567
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:17,839
special events and with parks direct on
uh they have big events

568
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:22,160
anybody can use it because anybody can
drive it so it's a multi-faceted machine

569
00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:29,359
so that will replace our 2017 master
lease that paid off

570
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:35,359
this april as well as well as our geo
bond debt 2015

571
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,359
issues paid off in april 2021 as well

572
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:44,800
some of the cash funded items um that
we've included in this budget

573
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:48,400
and our police department is our watch
card

574
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:52,319
camera system um
that's eight cameras i believe yes eight

575
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:56,319
cameras
um a lighting and equipment package for

576
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:00,800
four vehicles a striping package for
four vehicles

577
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:04,960
and ndt scanner printers as well
we are funding using our same mechanism

578
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,559
of the enterprise
fleet management program and and that's

579
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:12,079
why it's not shown
on our capital so it's actually a

580
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:17,280
monthly lease payment and we're going to
be replacing

581
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,280
um four police vehicles

582
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:24,880
we're replacing four and adding four
we're adding four okay just add it

583
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:32,800
in our special events department um they
continue to improve our christmas

584
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:38,319
festival
um and we're going to um

585
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,680
add to our in-circle entryway there
needs to be a lighted feature because

586
00:48:40,319 --> 00:48:44,480
it's kind of dark it's going down that
way

587
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:48,800
and that's at six and a half six
thousand five hundred dollars

588
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:51,520
and then eighty thousand dollars uh for
our commerce park stage pavilion we're

589
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,119
still
uh getting some quotes but they're

590
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:59,359
coming in either with sixty thousand
or a hundred thousand for a cover over

591
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:05,040
the stage a billion each year we rent
from professional party rentals and

592
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:07,599
the the amount of events that we have
for our

593
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,520
sounds of summer we're spending about
twenty thousand dollars a year in ten

594
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:16,960
rentals
um yeah

595
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,960
they give it a much more professional

596
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:32,240
this time in addition to the fireworks

597
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,920
it was awesome

598
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:52,000
it is included in the budget um
in our natural gas fund the

599
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:56,960
cash funded project um it's a mix
between his cip

600
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:00,880
um this is eduardo's plan
for a new meter replacement a vacuum

601
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:06,240
machine you know the clayton newberry
interconnect um install high pressure

602
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:09,440
steel
that's a that's a high dollar project

603
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:12,640
and he
we've just met recently and they come in

604
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,800
a little bit higher
um but he said he'll give me a number as

605
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,000
soon as he can
lots of subdivisions

606
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:28,559
the total cost is 2 million 763 000
dollars in cash funded capital projects

607
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:33,520
for the natural gas fund
um we do maintain our days on hand we do

608
00:50:31,839 --> 00:50:39,440
maintain our
debt service debt ratio coverage

609
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:41,520
um and so the fund is still healthy and
should there be an emergency would be

610
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:48,079
able to
to maintain 212 days

611
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:53,760
of service to include these projects and
all the other allocations to the fund

612
00:50:50,640 --> 00:51:00,640
it was not many years ago that we would
have not been able to cash funds

613
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,640
all of these projects

614
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:09,839
and still have that kind of cash on hand
and may i say that i can really confess

615
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,839
is one word

616
00:51:20,839 --> 00:51:23,839
um

617
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:34,400
budgeting 2.7 million dollars in our
current fiscal year we budgeted

618
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:37,280
around the same dollar amount
year-to-date

619
00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:40,559
um for our subdivisions just because it
depends on

620
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:44,480
when construction is gonna start um
we've only not only

621
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:47,200
but we've spent seven hundred and ninety
three thousand dollars of the two lane

622
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:52,400
that we created so
the fund um can handle this but it also

623
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:56,480
can still handle if the projects were to
somehow miraculously come online

624
00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:00,319
the push line would still be able to
handle it these are estimates that we

625
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:04,800
requested for each subdivision
so that we have them and this assumes

626
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,800
these subdivisions going

627
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:12,400
and so what we do if we phase them um
and then they'll push out many some

628
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,440
three to five years for some projects
um in some projects for nearing the last

629
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:23,200
four
to fourth or fifth days

630
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:26,079
our sewer fund um there's there's one
item that was

631
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:31,760
previously budgeted for in our current
fy 21 budget

632
00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:36,880
but we deferred it to f122
just to give time for um for us to get

633
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:41,760
in and
use the the funds um already available

634
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:45,200
on some other smaller cash funded items
and so we met and just gonna defer right

635
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:49,599
to the next fiscal year in a couple
months

636
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:49,599
but that is an item that's still needed

637
00:52:52,480 --> 00:53:01,839
a lot of words you have any questions

638
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:12,319
this is just more about the methodology
that we that we used

639
00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:16,880
to fund these projects and just wanted
to make sure council was aware of what

640
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:18,960
um the plan we select the scenario to to
leave the

641
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:22,319
debt service village at its current
level 11.6

642
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:26,960
and have the general fund operating
revenues fund balance cover

643
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:32,559
cover the difference um and so this is
what it does to our general fund

644
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:35,920
um you see our net earnings drop in 2022
in 2023 and start to pick back up in

645
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:40,240
2024
um but we felt that we were okay uh the

646
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,920
fund can handle this
still because our unassigned fund

647
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:48,559
balance continues to stay
um at appropriate levels this

648
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:54,240
goes back to our conversation about the
village increase

649
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:56,319
if there's a huge expense our veterans
can

650
00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:00,880
continue to drop and our unassigned
undecided fund balance will continue to

651
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,040
to lower as well but we do feel that
this is the best way to go for this

652
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:08,240
fiscal year
by not letting the additional debt

653
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:11,680
service village
i anticipate you know in the next year

654
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:17,280
to
some some even higher revenues as as

655
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,000
fox hill business park comes online some
additional

656
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,839
subdivisions come online some additional
commercial comes online

657
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:28,079
some of those business license taxes and
things but

658
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:33,920
we also know that we've also got a lot
of big ticket uh projects that we need

659
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,920
to start tackling as well

660
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:41,040
which is again there's a very high level
overview of our

661
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:43,599
proposed budget that you will get um and
consider for first reading on next

662
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,599
thursday
um this is the end of my presentation

663
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:52,960
but if you have any questions
for me i'll be happy to answer any if i

664
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,960
don't want to answer it off i'll get

665
00:55:04,839 --> 00:55:07,839
um

666
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,010
[Music]

667
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:24,559
it was quite laid out very um supports
away with childhood understanding

668
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:29,920
so i i've communicated all along that
there was a lot of work put into that

669
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:34,000
um their layout plan so i've been
appreciated

670
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:37,440
and by y'all taking the time to it step
by step

671
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:43,440
i'm able now the questions i did have
you can answer them to the point where

672
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:49,680
i'm very well pleased thank you
sir um before you

673
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:54,160
you ask on it one of the kind of the
hot button issue that it seems comes up

674
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:58,480
every year although it's not
um the grand scheme of our over 20

675
00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:04,559
million dollar budget every year
is is the amount of funds that

676
00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:10,400
our three organizations apply for with
hospitality tax

677
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:16,160
what staff is proposing this year is
uh is to not fund any of those out of

678
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:21,599
our hospitality tax
this year and instead use our federal

679
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:25,920
stimulus dollars
to fund those at whatever level council

680
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:32,640
wishes
one of the the

681
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:36,880
one of the items of guidance from the
federal government on the on the 3.9

682
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:41,599
million that we are to receive and we're
supposed to receive half of that

683
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:44,640
here in some kind of may or june
is that you can

684
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:51,359
give those funds to two non-profits in
your community

685
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,160
especially ones that were affected by
coded

686
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:59,920
and we know that beyond center was
tremendously affected by koben

687
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:04,160
the museum and the chamber were as well
and so we felt like this was a good

688
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:08,079
opportunity for us to use
those precious hospitality tax dollars

689
00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:11,440
in our budget this year
for projects personnel and other things

690
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:14,640
and use those dollars
that are coming to us from the federal

691
00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:19,119
stimulus money
um um that we you know this could be a

692
00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:26,000
once-in-a-lifetime thing use those
for for that um without

693
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:29,839
got those partners requested yet they
did

694
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:35,040
they made their requests um i we
told uh the chamber and in the art

695
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:39,359
center that that was our plan
and the museum and they were good with

696
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:44,960
that but they are going to be kind of
waiting for that next conversation on uh

697
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,799
at what level does this council want to
fund them with that 3.9 billion that's

698
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:55,119
that's coming that they asked for an
increase

699
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,119
we got we've got 300.

700
00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:03,359
that we would have been able to find
those three organizations

701
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:09,359
at the level that they requested i'm
sure no way

702
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:13,359
i think
i'd like to see us so one of this money

703
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:18,319
is for
intended uses um and if we don't use it

704
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:23,119
we send it back and it gets
somewhere else and uh

705
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:27,040
one of them is for businesses and
non-profits affected by the pandemic to

706
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:31,359
the lesson of the burden
so in my view this is a conversation for

707
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,880
another day because i think it might be
best practice for us to actually adopt a

708
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,960
resolution on how we plan to spend so
with

709
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:47,359
but the idea is it will also be
opportunities for businesses

710
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:47,359
and non-profits

711
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:55,599
to be able to kind of lessen the
really about recovering and you know

712
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,079
relaunching or what have you
um what we are waiting on the u.s

713
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:03,119
treasury department will issue guidance
we think

714
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,720
next week give or take and that will
give us really

715
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:09,520
exactly how and what we can do well i
know we've talked about this before but

716
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:13,440
i would actually want to see some kind
of plan

717
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:19,040
as to how they begin to use it because
there's been no good solid checker

718
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:19,040
balance over the past few

719
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:37,599
i don't include their packets um

720
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,440
what's

721
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:52,640
i would like to up i would like to say
that

722
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:56,400
wait a minute let me get straight okay i
would like to say that now

723
00:59:54,319 --> 01:00:03,920
i don't agree with it i was going to be
uh revealing

724
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:10,480
this is what affected also by copenhagen
now um and with the reveal

725
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:14,160
it keep going up one year down one year
so they were not the only one that was

726
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:19,440
affected by
the coca-19 so if it's not gonna be used

727
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,880
for the grand purpose that the
government is giving the kill

728
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:28,079
i'll say send it back because i don't
think we should give it to one

729
01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:31,200
particular business that's my thoughts
and i won't speak with that one all

730
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:34,799
right no dude
thank you sir um what i would say in the

731
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:40,960
grand scheme
so let's say council was to to

732
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:44,720
out of that 3.9 million to fund those
three entities at the

733
01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:50,720
at the request that they asked for this
year i think that that totaled around

734
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:54,480
500 000. that's in the grand scheme of
things

735
01:00:51,359 --> 01:01:00,960
500 thousand out of 3.9 million
is still relatively low um

736
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:04,319
and that 500 000 um
would have been a lot more than we could

737
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,319
have funded
in one fiscal year out of our

738
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:13,839
hospitality tax funds
um so i just i say that so

739
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:18,160
that it's possible you guys could even
be more generous

740
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:21,680
with the chamber the museum and the
yacht center with these

741
01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:24,960
stimulus dollars than we could have been
in our annual

742
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:30,000
appropriation of our hospitality tax
dollars

743
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:36,000
that's right i just want the employment
for just giving money you know

744
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:41,119
years because this is you know that's
like the stimulus

745
01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:46,559
it's just one time thing how are they
going to maintain

746
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:49,920
their operations um what is their plan
because they're

747
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:52,400
all you know if they all have boards
they

748
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:57,599
need working on their own fundraising
their own funding streams

749
01:01:54,240 --> 01:02:04,839
and not solely rely on the city
or all of that i mean i want i'm for

750
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:07,839
helping them but there needs to be a
more

751
01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:22,480
this particular use of funds arp in
particular

752
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:28,400
we've also got food banks that have had
increased we've had

753
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:31,520
uh education entities so this is not
think about i'm thinking about it as how

754
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:37,359
do you
get everyone to re-emerge and then

755
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:40,160
using it again this is all dependent on
what world

756
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:44,079
the treasury department the fine print
on all this is

757
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,960
but we had talked in recent months about
reinvestment incentives for local

758
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:50,799
businesses
and a lot of it potentially having this

759
01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:55,839
be a way to contest that
that out as a pilot um so anyway

760
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,799
there we'll see what we can do but yeah
i do have to be

761
01:03:00,839 --> 01:03:03,839
yes

762
01:03:14,839 --> 01:03:20,319
um i'm kidding i feel i'm with you 100

763
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:29,200
thanks anthony you're welcome hey thank
you

764
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:37,440
he said that we're nodding and smiling
um um if you don't mind we'll go

765
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:40,640
to uh any other questions number six
and i just wanted to thank um naomi for

766
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:46,960
her
hard work on this um

767
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:51,599
another interesting budget here last
year was interesting with kovid

768
01:03:48,799 --> 01:03:55,359
this was also a copic year i don't want
to get too far

769
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:59,839
into the hipaa stuff on that but we've
had a lot of staff issues health issues

770
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:03,200
and things like that so it's been it's
been tough i i do think we would like a

771
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:08,799
little bit of guidance
on uh process going forward

772
01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:12,319
do you guys feel like you have enough
going forward to

773
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:15,520
have first reading on our budget for
next week next thursday

774
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:22,079
okay yeah i'd like to see it you know
that'd be good

775
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:27,839
um just to make sure and i would
recommend

776
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:27,839
folks ask questions

777
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:41,039
especially there's two readings of the
budget so if there's time to

778
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,160
do you want a minute or do you want me
to go with mine first do you want a

779
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,799
minute
please okay

780
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,599
all right back in

781
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:22,240
december of 2018 you all uh
passed on second reading an ordinance to

782
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:26,400
grant a sanitary sewer easement to
valley the adventures incorporated

783
01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:30,799
over real property owned by the city it
found in

784
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:34,480
what we're talking about here is this uh
piece of property

785
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:39,520
right here on valley view road um it's
for a townhome subdivision

786
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:44,240
at the time of the developer i believe
was randy brewer

787
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:47,760
um he is uh
my what i've heard kind of overextended

788
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:50,880
himself he got
involved in too many subdivisions all at

789
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:55,440
once
he is he is since he's out of the

790
01:05:53,440 --> 01:06:01,599
project he's sold that property another
developer has come in

791
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:08,319
um for this project
to work they needed two sewer easements

792
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,319
from the city of fountain inn

793
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:18,799
and they are exhibited um
here these were the two sewer easements

794
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:22,640
that the city gave this developer for
for this project to happen anytime the

795
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:28,400
city gives
uh sewer easements where we

796
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:33,520
normally get something in exchange in
contract terms that's called

797
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:36,079
consideration what uh what the deal that
i worked out with the developer at that

798
01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:40,880
time
was instead of paying money for for

799
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:47,440
those two reasons
what we did was if

800
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:54,000
you recall this is city-owned property
right here and

801
01:06:50,720 --> 01:07:00,400
this goes back to the
uh the whole woodside village

802
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:05,359
thing that happened before i got here
where we started to develop the the

803
01:07:03,359 --> 01:07:07,920
property along diamond tip and fairview
streets

804
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:13,119
found out we couldn't because it was
encumbered by the federal government

805
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:17,760
and so they had to do a land swap we
and i i took that over the finish line

806
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:22,000
but what we did is we had to take some
other city-owned property

807
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:27,200
in the city that we had and they
identified this portion here

808
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:30,880
and uh said this is going to be used for
recreational purposes

809
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:36,880
and instead that's not going to be
recreational so you can develop that

810
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:41,039
so we had this property here
and it has a humongous duke power line

811
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:45,920
easement through it
um it's got wetlands it's it's kind of a

812
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:52,559
hot mess of a piece of property
can't do a whole lot with it um former

813
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:55,039
former mayor sam lee we were talking
about

814
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:58,400
what can we do with it he said well
since you can't really

815
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:03,520
build on it build any structures why
don't we try to make it into a dog park

816
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:07,839
and so when they needed the two sewer
easements

817
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:11,839
from the city um i said well that's fine
why don't in the ordinance

818
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:18,319
[Music]
um it's not important uh we'll give

819
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:26,080
we'll have the
ordinance says that

820
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:29,759
in exchange for the grantees
agreement to perform grading and

821
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:34,560
clearing on the site
of the uh proposed dog park and that was

822
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:38,319
that was it that was the vague language
that we gave them that

823
01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:42,080
said instead of payment for the sewer
easements

824
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:46,319
is that you they would clear and grade
um

825
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:50,799
for for the dog park well obviously
things got kind of weird when

826
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:57,520
that developer that agreed to it is not
out of the picture new people come in

827
01:08:53,920 --> 01:09:03,759
and we had this
preliminary uh site plan developed

828
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:07,759
for for this dog park one of the big
problems with this

829
01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:14,319
this dog park is access issues
um we tried to get access here uh

830
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:19,920
bilo would not let us have um
uh parking through there um

831
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:23,199
it's county own road you got the duke
there

832
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:26,080
couldn't get curb cuts so the only way
to get

833
01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:32,400
access to it was actually going to be
through the development

834
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:36,080
so the parking had to be here
and so if we were going to have a dog

835
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:42,080
park we had to get
we have to get an easement an access

836
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:42,080
easement from the developer

837
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:48,159
so this is what we proposed to the
developer so this is their their

838
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:52,480
townhome subdivision here and so we said
well

839
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:57,280
will you grant us uh an access easement
so we can get

840
01:09:53,520 --> 01:10:00,800
to the dog park and they said well
they didn't really like that idea

841
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:06,400
given they didn't really want public
traffic

842
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:11,280
going through their subdivision to get
to get to the dog park they like the

843
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:14,800
idea of having a publicly owned amenity
right there that their their residents

844
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:19,520
can use
but they didn't love the idea of having

845
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:23,840
just anybody going through their
subdivision but they said you know what

846
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:28,320
so this was a private town home uh this
is a town-home subdivision

847
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:31,840
which can have private roads private
roads means that this hla is going to

848
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:35,120
have to pay for the maintenance
of those roads so they said well we will

849
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:41,840
give you
that access easement if you

850
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:47,920
allow us to have public roads
and so we we said well maybe

851
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:52,000
okay well now we're back to the point
where you know they've cleared

852
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:54,640
and graded and all that kind of stuff
well they

853
01:10:52,560 --> 01:11:00,080
budgeted when they bought this this
property ten thousand dollars

854
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:05,760
to do the clearing and grading and all
we have ever provided them

855
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:12,080
was this site plan
we have we city has never invested

856
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:17,920
in getting uh grading
plans or any civil site work

857
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:20,080
done anything like that all we said is
while you guys are out there clearing

858
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,159
grading
go ahead and clear and grade for us too

859
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,520
and
the developer needs a little bit more

860
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:31,280
than that for for uh
to go out there and and grade uh

861
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,719
appropriately
there's permitting there's wetlands

862
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:38,719
there's there's quite a bit that's
necessary

863
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:41,360
developers come back and said do you
mind

864
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:45,199
we budgeted the ten thousand do you mind
just uh we'll just stroke the city a

865
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:51,920
check for the ten thousand dollars so
basically five thousand for each eastman

866
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:56,000
so that's the first question tonight
is whether or not you guys are willing

867
01:11:53,679 --> 01:12:00,560
to accept ten thousand dollars for those
easements

868
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:07,679
rather than them clearing and grading
and if that's if that's the case

869
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:12,000
then we also need to make a decision
about what is the future do we want a

870
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:18,239
dog park there or not
um because if

871
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:24,800
um if we just take the 10 000
that means they won't clear and grade it

872
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:29,520
that means that we're going to
have to budget funds at some point to

873
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:37,440
actually get this project to completion
um i had an opinion a probable cost

874
01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:41,520
that took out clearing and grubbing
erosion control rough grading all those

875
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:44,800
kind of things because we
told them that they were going to do all

876
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:48,560
of that
and the total uh that the engineers gave

877
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:52,000
me
this was a couple years eight 2018 was

878
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:56,400
93
000. more than that now and then if you

879
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,840
add
all of that on there you're probably

880
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:06,800
looking at 200 grand to get this dog
park there

881
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,800
if we are not going to do the dog park

882
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,080
yes sir

883
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:19,040
yes councilmember why not give

884
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:38,080
it is appraised but it also it now has
to be for recreational purposes

885
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:42,239
the city has to own the property and it
has to be for recreational purposes

886
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,679
according to our land swap deal we
cannot develop it

887
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:48,239
we can't do anything other than
recreation

888
01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:50,880
so

889
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:57,760
the question then is if we do not want a
dog park there if we don't feel like we

890
01:13:56,159 --> 01:14:01,760
want to invest 200 000
at some point then that means we don't

891
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:08,400
need
this access easement

892
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:11,120
which means we don't have to own those
roads

893
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:14,640
so that's kind of that's kind of the
decision we need to make and they're

894
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:19,600
okay with either one they of course
would love to have

895
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:23,360
public roads but that's the trade-off
here is

896
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:27,440
do we want access to that because if we
don't get this access easement

897
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:31,360
that property is probably deadlocked
forever it probably

898
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:35,760
i mean it's possible something in the
future can happen by the food lion

899
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:42,159
it's possible we can work out something
with duke but those are long shots

900
01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:45,360
right um but then
the these are going to be private roads

901
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:51,040
and then we'll never have to own and
maintain them which is a good thing

902
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:56,159
um so those those are kind of the
the two the main two decisions is do we

903
01:14:53,440 --> 01:15:00,000
want to take the 10 grand
and that is just going to require a

904
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:04,080
resolution of counsel
to change that that original ordinance

905
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,719
um and then the other can just be a
staff decision

906
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:11,280
because we have not accepted the plaid
or anything like that is

907
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:15,760
do do we want to
say we don't want the access easement we

908
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:20,800
want these to continue to be private
roads like we was initially

909
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:25,040
done or do we want to keep this axis
easement and have it be public roads and

910
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,679
that's kind of that's kind of a question
for you guys

911
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:30,480
tonight doesn't necessarily have to be a
vote but we kind of need some feedback

912
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:34,560
here
well i kind of get his point

913
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:44,159
i wouldn't want cars coming through
my street uh that's

914
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:47,120
people that don't you know we still get
some cut through but

915
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,480
i don't know how much traffic that would
actually get but

916
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,960
i don't particularly care for the fact
that we'd on

917
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,880
may not

918
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,360
you could still use this for
recreational purposes we lack passive

919
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:16,719
parks
in the city really where you can just

920
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:20,239
meander around we've got
pretty much one side of the trail it's

921
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:26,480
about probably about
it so there's a i think a good use

922
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:30,719
at some point for that but i think and
maybe

923
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:35,520
maybe you know they were against having
a road

924
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:39,040
access here but maybe pedestrian access
to it at some point they would be open

925
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:42,320
to but
i would agree with you that russell and

926
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,679
i
kind of feel the same way that maybe

927
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:49,360
we're kind of sticking a square peg in a
round hole here

928
01:16:46,719 --> 01:16:52,320
they were kind of forcing a dog park
where we all like the idea of dog park

929
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:56,400
but maybe this is not
the appropriate parcel for us we would

930
01:16:54,640 --> 01:17:00,239
essentially be committing to it
and we got a lot of other needs in the

931
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,400
other parks
so i mean i know that the intention was

932
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,679
that we would be able to do this at some
point with the original developers it

933
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:13,600
was okay to kind of park it a little bit
yeah but i think given the new developer

934
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:17,040
and they're moving on quick they're
we're actually to hold up

935
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:21,920
at the moment they don't want to move
everything if they still

936
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:27,440
they well they still need to try to
clear and grade

937
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:32,640
yeah that's all right
okay give you some feedback i think so

938
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:35,520
i guess it would be i'd rather have the
money too so

939
01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:41,280
for the resolution right that's what
we'd have to do that's actually the vote

940
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,960
you guys you would have to change the
order so we would instead of clearing it

941
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:50,000
gray and we would say
it's five thousand parties that's

942
01:17:48,159 --> 01:18:02,560
correct
all right naomi's back to you

943
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:06,719
uh sean was approached by a company
and we often are approached by companies

944
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:12,320
that want to come in and do
revenue recovery um we

945
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:15,840
partnered with new strat at analytics a
couple of years ago

946
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:19,120
where we asked the company to come in
and identify businesses who

947
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,960
are operating in our city limits without
a business license

948
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,760
a couple years have passed we have grown
and we feel

949
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:31,840
we do not have sufficient staff
currently to take on that undertaking

950
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:35,600
strat was able to um be able to get
to earn 80 000 from that partnership um

951
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:40,560
and that was
after the cost that we paid to new strat

952
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:44,080
at 30 percent
data max is another company just just

953
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:47,360
like new strat
um we would have went back to new strat

954
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,800
but
they were not operating at the same

955
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:54,080
level that they did in the past when
they helped us before

956
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:56,640
uh data max's terms are a little bit
different than new stress they request

957
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,840
50
of the revenue that they find um for a

958
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,600
certain
term but we feel that we would not see

959
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,600
the revenue
anyway so i would like for you all to

960
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:13,760
read through the agreement
um and on thursday consider it for

961
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:17,040
approval um so that we can go ahead and
engage their services

962
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:21,440
and then start seeing that revenue if we
sign the contract within

963
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:26,400
the next few days they can they
guarantee

964
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:26,400
funds to come in by july by june

965
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:33,360
so a lot of cities in south carolina are
are using them

966
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:37,360
and kind of what they they have a magic
formula kind of like new strat did

967
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:41,520
and what they'll do is they'll provide
our city staff

968
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:46,719
with about 20 to 30 businesses
every month that they've identified and

969
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:50,080
they let us know first
who those businesses are and we can tell

970
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,120
no
no they're not actually operating in the

971
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:56,320
city or
you know let's not let's not tackle that

972
01:19:55,040 --> 01:20:02,159
one um
and then then we circle the ones that we

973
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,120
say yep no they are operating in the
city they don't have a business

974
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:11,199
license and then they they almost act as
a

975
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:17,280
as a collection agent and there's a 60
day out on this if we're not satisfied

976
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:20,960
and it's just for the 12 months or not
right correct

977
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:20,960
see what we can get

978
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:28,080
and these are not typically your mom and
top

979
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:30,480
mom and pop type of businesses the you
know

980
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:35,520
we know those those are the ones that we
find anyway the ones that

981
01:20:32,639 --> 01:20:40,480
have a brick and mortar here but a lot
of times people don't realize that

982
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:43,520
the business license tax is
on for it's for anybody that's doing

983
01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:47,040
commerce
in your community and so the business

984
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,880
license
actually applies to a lot more than what

985
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,880
people realize
so what they're finding are vending

986
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:58,400
machines and
people that are doing deliveries and

987
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:02,480
things a lot of
big corporations that are doing

988
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:06,159
businesses doing business in
municipalities all over the state and so

989
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:11,600
they've got a good
list of who those those corporations are

990
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:15,040
that are doing business in other cities
that don't have a business license

991
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:19,280
and so they'll check and see if well are
they doing business and found in

992
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:24,400
yep and so then they can get are they
all familiar with them

993
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:29,840
other cities are using them successfully
we found a lot of revenue with them in

994
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:29,840
lake city

995
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:43,840
thank you

996
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:54,400
very nice very helpful is there a motion
to adjourn absolutely thank you mr

997
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,880
clemente
thank you

998
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:14,480
no