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Good afternoon, we are going to go ahead and start our steady session and we're here at 5.15.

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First start with public comments. Are there any requests to speak?

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We have several requests to speak. Would you like to call them first or have the presentation and then public comments?

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Maybe we do the presentation first and then bring up, okay, okay.

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So I'll ask our public works director Scott Smith,

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you could start off the presentation.

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Mayor Council members, we have OCP staff with us today in this slide.

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The study session item gives us an opportunity to receive an update

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and also an offer some discussion.

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So with that, if we can get the presentation up,

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and reduce or invite OCPA staff to provide the presentation.

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Welcome.

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Thank you very much, Mayor.

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Mayor and members of the city council and city staff.

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My name is Joe Moskin, the CEO of Orange County Power Authority,

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and very happy to be here with you once again.

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And to my left here is Jackie Henderson.

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She is the Director of Communications and External Affairs

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for Orange County Power Authority.

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And she's going to share in some of the presentation with me tonight.

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And we'll try to be brief as possible, really talk a little bit about the change in launch date from October of this year to April of 2027.

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And then provide you with enough time to kind of answer any questions that you have.

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And of course, if there's public comment, we'll endeavor to answer as many of those questions as possible.

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So where is the quicker?

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The care.

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All right.

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All right, so so I know that you guys know a lot of this right, but what I want to do is just a couple of slides of some basic information

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I'll go through it really quickly, but just so if there are people that are kind of tuning in for the first time that we're just starting at chapter one

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So that they understand who we are what we're about. So Orange County Power Authority is a community choice aggregator

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There are 25 aggregators in the state of California. We're not for profit public agency a joint power's authority

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not unlike a lot of the other joint powers authority that you may belong to that you're

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basically working with other cities on certain services that you believe that you can do

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together collaboratively. We provide energy choice for the first time ever. Clean energy

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choices and we're also very much community focused. OCPA purchases energy from renewable and

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carbon-free resources. We don't have any shareholders. You can kind of think of us as the

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community are our shareholders.

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And so we're not for profit, that doesn't mean that we can't make a profit.

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But it means that our profit is in reinvest in our member agencies.

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So it's for purpose, and it's for benefit of our member agencies.

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Currently we have about 188,000 customer accounts for our territory.

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When Fountain Valley is launched in April, 2027, we'll have just shy of 200,000.

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So really a nice size CCA that is able to tailor its programs to its member agencies.

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We have over a collective 12 years of decades of experience with OCPA and this is just continuing to grow.

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We have some folks that are amazing intelligence smart creative folks that are working on your behalf.

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And here are some of the folks that that will be helping with with with thought and valley.

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We have CCA experience investor own utility experience municipal utility experience and also working for agencies over the years.

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So this is I know this is really simple slide, but we can always dive deeper if anybody has any questions.

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But this is really a very high level of what we do as a CCA, what OCPA does.

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So, we're purchasing energy on behalf of our customers, our customers, tell us what types of energy

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they want, when geothermal, solar, battery storage, biomass, what is it that they want?

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We're going from one option to many options.

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And so, we're procuring that energy on behalf of, or purchasing that energy on behalf of

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our customers, and then we deliver that energy to the electric grid, right?

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And then, Southern California Edison, which is our partner here, they are the utility.

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They maintain all the polls, they maintain all the wires, and then that energy is delivered to the homes and businesses in Fountain Valley.

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Let me also say that setting health on your eyes and also does all the billing.

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They also have a customer call line.

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We also have a customer call line.

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So our customers have double the customer customer help.

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There are 200 communities throughout the State of California.

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you know, there's 475 cities like yours throughout the city of California, 40 million, 40 million people throughout the state.

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200 of those cities are within a CCA. So while OCPA is fairly new as about four years, CCA's are not new in the state of California.

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15 million Californians are living within an area that is served by a CCA.

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And, in fact, we are CCAs collectively,

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are now the engine of purchasing energy

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and specifically clean renewable energy

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in the state of California.

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I have a statistic there that 21, 21,000 megawatts

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of clean energy purchased by collectively

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by CCA throughout the state of California.

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So that is a very large amount

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and is what's moving the energy transition right now.

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There are many benefits of community choice, and so I just put a few there, but choice.

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Choice for the first time ever.

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Currently you have one choice with your Southern California Edison and they have one basic product.

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With Orange County power authority, we have three different choices.

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And you still have the choice of staying with Southern California Edison.

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If you so choose, competition, competition is good.

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It's not only good for affordability purposes, but also customer experience.

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SC has five million customer accounts.

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Over a population of 15 million, we have 200,000 customer accounts

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over a very smaller, much smaller population.

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We can tailor our programs.

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We can tailor our offerings to our customers,

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and we can compete in a very good way.

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Local control.

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We aim to empower our residents.

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We are your representatives, sit on our board of directors.

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And they are setting the policies.

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They're setting the strategic direction.

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We hope to invest in our local communities and local generation.

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Of course, we have utility-scale generation because we're purchased a whole lot of generation.

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But we also are hopeful in investing in our local communities with local generations.

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So therefore we need a workforce not only of today, but of tomorrow.

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So we're all about investing and helping to create a workforce right here in Orange County,

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right here in Fountain Valley, as a not-for-profit model, we're not focused on profit.

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We're focused on affordability, we're focused on trust, we're focused on transparency.

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We are born of a city's goal to reduce greenhouse gases locally and to give our residents

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more and customers more options.

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We also endeavor to support our customers with customer programs that are tailored to their needs.

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We don't see our customer programs as a one-stop shop.

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We don't see it like, okay, here's the battery we're done with you.

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It's a relationship that we're building.

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We not only want to basically provide you with the latest

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and technology and innovation, right?

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But we also want to help you drive down your energy usage,

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drive down your cost.

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There's a lot of ways that you can do that.

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Customers don't know that there's now time of use.

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So there are different times that your energy is more costly.

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We want to make sure our commercial customers

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and our residential customers and our municipal customers know that.

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We want to work with them.

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We want to give white glove service to them

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to make sure that we're helping them.

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Of course, this whole thing was born out of an effort

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to reduce greenhouse gases, and there is no better strategy

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in the state of California than a community choice aggregator

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to reduce greenhouse gases locally

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that are associated with the generation of electricity.

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Recent achievements, again, there have been a lot in the last four

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years, and so I couldn't put it all on one side,

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and I know we have a limited amount of time.

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So not only are we experiencing a lot of innovation

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and technology advancements on the energy side of things.

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But also on the financial side.

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This is something I wanted to really talk about,

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which is the fact as a public agency,

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which is different than the investor owned utility,

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we basically have access to non-tax-free bonds.

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that we tried and we are very successful in our first go

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is pre-payment green bonds.

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So we're taking our long-term contracts

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and pre-paying them.

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So we went to the market just before all of the other conflict that's happening in the world.

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We went to the market with about a billion dollars, just shy of the billion dollars in long-term contracts.

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And we got one of the highest savings of any CCA in the last several years, 12.45%.

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So over five years, that's $25 million, reducing our energy costs.

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energy cost for, I mean, like any other JPA, the services are the primary, and so for OCPA,

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the primary is energy. Ninety-three percent of our costs are related to energy. Our organization

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is extraordinarily lean. So, ninety-three percent only for the cost of energy. So, driving down

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that largest IDOT line item allows us to be as competitive and as affordable in the future as possible.

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I also wanted to add that will end this fiscal year. So, our fiscal year goes from the end of

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to July. And so we'll be ending our 25, 26 fiscal year of very soon. We'll end with a positive

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result and also contributing to our reserves. We've been named the last over the last several

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years. We've consistently been named as one of the top providers of green energy in the United

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States, not just in California, but in the United States by the Department of an agency within

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the Department of Energy. Another item that I'm really proud of is the community power plan.

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This is our roadmap for designing and deploying relevant customer programs.

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So not only are we giving more choices affordable rates, competitive rates, but also we're reinvesting

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by way of customer programs.

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We're listening to our customers.

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We're listening to our memorabilia agencies.

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What do you want us to do?

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The CPP, the community power plant, was that endeavor.

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It was an opportunity to really listen to our customers and come up with a plan.

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And so now it's done and we're proud of it and now we're implementing that plan.

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So let's talk a little bit about some of the customer programs that we've just implemented

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from some of this planning.

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Good evening.

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Council.

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Mayor.

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Thanks, Mayor.

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Great to be here.

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Thank you for having us.

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So I did want to talk about first for our programs.

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One that is not listed here, which is our solar program, our rooftop solar program.

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So we encourage residential solar on homes.

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So we offer enhanced benefits for people that have solar panels.

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So for starters, OCPA continues to offer solar benefits that mirror the NEM 2.0 program and that is a benefit structure that's provided to people who installed solar panels before April 2023 and those customers get increased value for the energy they send up to the electric grid.

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If you've gone after that time period or even start today, that value is decreased, but we continue to offer that higher value for the energy that goes back up to the grid.

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We also offer a higher net surplus compensation rate.

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And so that SEE will give you a total amount

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at the end of the year when they true you up.

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We give you 10% more if you are a solar customer

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So I just wanted to start with that,

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because I know that's very important for Fountain Valley.

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We've been out in the community a lot.

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And we also get asked a lot about our solar program.

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So I did want to start with that.

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So our community power plan took over 14 months to develop.

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and we wanted to make sure that the programs that we offer are a benefit to our customers that are

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in addition to what SEE is offering. So if you're an OCPA customer, you remain an SEE customer.

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We're not replacing SEE. We are certainly adding value on top of SEE. And so we've done a few

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programs before our community power plan launch. We got a lot of feedback from all of our

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community advisory community, our board, city staff, city council members, different businesses in our

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member cities to make sure that what we launch going into the future for years to come is something

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that's going to be applicable to our specific communities. So ahead of that, we've launched a few

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programs that I wanted to mention. We gave away over 200 no costs, level two EV chargers, two

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hour customers, simply for being a customer and wanting to take part in our program. We've given away

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and nearly 1,500 energy efficiency kits.

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And those are easy tools for your home

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to increase your energy efficiency.

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So that's LED light bulbs, a smart strip,

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weather stripping.

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We simply just want to make you more energy efficiency,

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you're using less energy and getting less of a cost

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in your energy bill overall.

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We've also given away $1,000 for battery storage

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in one of our programs.

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We also give away a number of grants

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to community-based organizations, including in Fountain Valley.

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We want to make sure that people that are doing programs that support renewable energy or sustainability throughout their communities and know how to speak directly to the members of their communities are getting that support.

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So we've supported a number of different programs including the Girl Scouts we've given a grant to be able to have an OCPA badge for kids that are doing a renewable energy and a box kit and learning how to use solar energy to roast marshmallows.

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We've been away a grant to inside the outdoors so that they have a traveling scientist program.

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They go into classrooms and give hands on learning experience to kids and they're going to do that with renewable energy through a grant that we've been able to provide.

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Through our community powerfully, we learn that people just have a barrier to knowing what's out there and how to make easy changes to their energy bill to save money.

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So we actually gave a free webinar, which is still available on our website, so anybody that's hearing this can go to our YouTube page and watch the webinar to learn how to save money and make adjustments to your energy bill or small little things you can do around.

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Underhouse, using your blinds, to close your blinds, hanging up your clothes, little things that you can do to save money.

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Because we want to encourage that as well. We also launched out of our community power plan, our first rent or focused program.

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And this overcame the barriers of cost and landlord approval that you need to make changes in a rented home.

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And that was giving away a free HVAC system and a portable battery so that you could use all of those pieces of equipment.

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and that was free. That's about $1,500 to our customers for free. We also have partnerships with statewide

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funded programs through the U.S. Green Business Council, California Energy Commission,

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SoCal and Bay Renewable Energy Networks. Those are dollars that would not come to Orange County

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were it not for Orange County power authority being able to take that and put it directly into our

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communities. So that's just touching on a few of our programs that we have right now.

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So, OCPA continues to be extraordinarily disciplined when it comes to financial finances.

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We're prudent, we're conservative, and we're constantly thinking about the future.

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So, we'll end our, as I said, we'll end 25, 26 in the black with contributions to reserve.

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26, 27, and fiscal year budget was just approved by our board of directors.

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And I believe you have that at your diast, and it shows, again, a balanced budget, it meets all the strategic goals that our board has set out.

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We had a strategic planning session earlier in the year, where the board laid out certain goals.

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And our budget is informed by those goals.

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And our budget supports affordability, reserve, building, and long-term financial

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sustainability.

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It contributes $14 billion to reserves at the end of the fiscal year, and it gets us back

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on the tract of rebuilding those reserves.

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It also has $2.2 million dedicated to customer programs.

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It also supports the green discount program.

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And so even as we fixed our rate for 2026, we do have a green discount program that are available

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to our customers that is pegged off the SE rate, 1% less than SE currently, and that's

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a program that we're prioritizing low-income qualified customers for, but it's open to

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everybody.

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And as Jackie just mentioned, there's a lot of dollars on the state and federal level.

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And so Orange County historically has not reached out for a lot of those dollars.

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So we are, we are a funnel for some of that, and just recently we've been able to, in the

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last fiscal year, $500,000 for our, for our, our cities, and that's just funding coming

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to OCPA.

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We also have funding that went to Buena Park and excessive that.

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There are some questions about reserves.

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So a pre-reserved policy for a load serving entity as Orange County Power Authority is around

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30 to 50 percent of general fund costs within reserves.

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This allows for resiliency financial resiliency in the future.

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One of the biggest priorities would be the stabilization of rates into the future.

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We can dig deeper on this if you have questions on that.

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Here's the financial outlook for the next five years and reserves.

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A couple of things that I would say, high level, looking at that, the revenue requirement

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for OCPA is pretty flat, pretty stable over the next five years.

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And it also shows how we basically track with that 30% to 50% reserve margin over the next five years.

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Importantly, at 2028, you'll see the intersection of when we get up past the 30% because that's the important date that we spoke before in prior conversations that we've had here at the city council about a credit rating.

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And how important it is to have good credit for load serving entity like us because we're constantly in the market doing business purchasing energy.

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So the credit rating is extraordinarily important.

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So we're aiming to get that credit rating in 2028

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and we need to cross that line of that 30%

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to ensure a good credit rating.

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So that this is some of the planning,

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high level planning that we're selling.

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So rate setting, real fast about rate setting

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because I think this is something that has come up before.

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Generation rates have historically been set by OCPA

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at the beginning of each calendar year, right?

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And prior to 2026, our rates were essentially indexed or pegged off of Southern California

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Edison, meaning that wherever they're at, were either 2% less or were basically, you

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know, for smart choice, more one penny, more one penny and a half more for, for, for, for 100%.

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2026 was a transitional year for us.

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We heard from our customers that they want a fixed rate, more predictability.

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Why? Because SEA's rates are 4 to 6 times a year up and down, 4 to 6 times a year up and down.

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And so can you basically hold your rates steady throughout the course of the year?

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And this is something that we proposed to our board directors.

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The rate that we had at the end of 2025,

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13.4 cents a kilowatt hour, is a low rate.

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Everybody thought it was low in 2025.

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It was when you look at the average rate of setting California Edison over a three-year period of time

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13.4 cents per kilowatt hour is exactly where they're at that was their norm for the last three years

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But for some regular toy changes and some shifts at the beginning of January of twenty twenty six

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They likely would be at 13.4 cents or higher. So

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In the get go they basically move to lower

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they're likely to go up. Why? Because they're at all time low now. But we locked our rates

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for 2025 for 2026 and we're also doing a cost to cost study which will allow our board

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of directors to see on a more long-term basis. What are what the resiliency, what the rates

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are for the long-term. It also allows us more information in terms of our strategy for our energy

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products and for setting our rates in the future.

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One of the things that we're looking at in this

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study is prioritizing a basic option that is indexed off the utility in the future.

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So we are going to bring back to our board of directors coming up when we set our rates,

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when we start to give information about what SCEs doing for 2027, we will present our

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board of directors with an option to have a basic option, which is less than more affordable

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than SCEs.

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So we've basically heard from our lot of our customers that the steady rate is important, but

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is a competitiveness and affordability. So we're looking at both those options of having the

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premium products that are competitive, but also having a base product that is affordable

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and less than the utility. The rate comparison, which a lot of folks have asked us about,

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is going to be on our website in early 2027 as soon as we know what the rates are going to be for

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2027.

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So I wanted to just take a moment and share a little bit about how the enrollment process works

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for any new city coming onto a CCA, there's a 60 day window before the transition takes place

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for energy service for that city, within which the customers will all receive two regulatory

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mailings, 60 days ahead of time, and 30 days ahead of time.

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And so during that 60 day window, there is the opportunity to make changes to the plan that

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you are on.

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There is an opportunity to stay with SE and have no changes take effect to your electricity

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bill.

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And then when Spaton Valley changes over to service through OCPA in April of 2027 each customer will be rolled over to OCPA generation on their meter read date for April so that will be staggered throughout the month and upon that time you will get a second regulatory mailing and then you will get one another month out and within those 60 days you have the opportunity to make any changes to pick a different plan or to stay with SE with no changes to your electricity.

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but then you also have the opportunity to change your plan at any time or go back to

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SE at any time. So we are very flexible. We're all about choice. We certainly want

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people to be comfortable with what they feel is best for them and their family.

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And so that is something that we offer as a CCA.

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I did want to mention during the onboarding process that we are in Fountain Valley frequently.

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So we've been doing different community events. We'll be at summer fest next weekend.

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and so we're excited to see everybody there on Friday and Saturday.

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We have been doing organization presentations, just did one last week, look forward to more

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of those going back to those communities and speaking to them, which has been really great.

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We're looking at casual coffee and conversations and cafe meetings, we're working with

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our community advisory committee to do that.

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We have a couple of members here in Fountain Valley that have been critical to us, making

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sure that we're connecting with the right audiences.

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We are doing geo-targeted digital and informational videos right now so that people have familiarity with who we are and have a better understanding of what we're bringing to fountain valley

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We also have been partnering with Scott Rogers over fountain valley living to have the back cover of fountain valley living magazine every month so that people can get familiarity with who we are

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We've also had adversarial in the magazine explaining a little bit more about coming to fountain valley

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We have a landing page on our website specifically for Fountain Valley residents, and we also have one on the Fountain Valley City website

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We have static billboards running on PCTA right now. We'll be doing videos very soon to transition over to that.

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We have bus shelters and print ads. In 2027 we'll be doing some hours at the senior center to make sure that we can connect with as many people as possible if they have any questions or need any help with anything.

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And then I'll turn it back over to Joe to talk about the partnership and benefits that we offer.

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But I did want to highlight just a couple of them.

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And one that Joe spoke to earlier was the customer service that we offer.

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I get to oversee the community engagement team here at OCPA.

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And I will tell you we get frequent people in the community really grateful for the customer service that we offer.

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You can call with questions about your bill.

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We can help you save energy switcher plan.

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It comes directly to me and my team and we answer and respond to that.

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So that is definitely a benefit from what SEA is offering in addition to what they are offering.

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And they're also doing these programs that are really helping customers make better energy

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choices.

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Like Joe said, it's building a relationship with these customers so they have a trusted source

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to get information from and to seek out if they have questions about their energy and to make

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better choices in their home to save money on the long run, not just on a line on their

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bill.

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So we're a bigger value proposition than just what's going on your bill every single month.

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So, I'll turn it back over to Joe.

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I think our last slide is just simply to learn more about OCPA.

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We have all of our contacts there in terms of our, and also our social media handles.

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And we'll, we're available for questions.

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I see that you have some public comments.

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So we'll sit down if you don't have any questions.

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And we'll be here to answer any questions that you have in the future.

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Yeah, thanks, Joe.

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And Jackie, we appreciate you coming out tonight.

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And sharing information as we continue our learning about OCPA.

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uh... i don't know we have a lot of speakers

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counsel and grandest did you want

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comment

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i just a couple of questions if i could

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some of the things that i'm hit up on is that

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whitewood fountain valley join of so many cities within orange county have already

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who have participated have already dropped out

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can you tell us how many cities have actually dropped out of OCPA

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so there are uh... there's one city that has basically left

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OCP and that's the city of Huntington Beach okay, so that's just one, so yeah on social media

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I was unbarded with there's so many cities so there's been one

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Can you just I thought I heard you say this so the price right now

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Let's just be open the price right now

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At basic choice is more expensive than Edison correct 13. Yes, it's 13.4 a sense of kilowatt-hour

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Edison's is around 12 cents a kilowatt hour okay and but you said on average

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Edison goes up and down four to six times a year yes and there went on average

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over the last three years have we been more expensive less expensive are

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basically the same our basic product has been less expensive more affordable than

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the last, the entire time that OCPA has been in existence.

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So right now, a point in time is for a higher.

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Yes, because we chose to keep our rates steady,

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but we can have a product that is more competitive.

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And one thing that I heard from a lot of businesses

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is that for planning purposes and everything else,

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it's critically important to stay at the same rate

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so that it's predictable for the year.

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Are you finding that your business is?

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Yes, customers are asking.

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This is something that is very common with a lot

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of our commercial customers, small, large commercial customers.

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And the cost of study that we've endeavor to do,

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and that we're going to be presenting to you

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as a board of directors in the future,

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is really looking at that challenge

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of how do we have a basic product that is pegged

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or indexed off of utility and is less than the utility.

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But at the same time, have more dynamic

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rates such that our commercial customers have fixed rates and have more predictability and how their

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generation costs are coming in. So that's something that of a challenge that we're looking at

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and that we hope to solve in the upcoming fiscal year.

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Okay, and you talked about reserves. And basically, it's complicated issue, but from what I know,

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it's rate stabilization. So it's not reserves like the Fountain Valley General Fund reserves.

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etc. It's rate stabilization and you use those funds when prices go higher that we don't

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raise the price. You keep it the same and you any deficit you take out of the rate stabilization

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plan and then in those years when there's more, I don't want to say income, but more revenue

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than expenses, you then replenish that fund so when the rates go up and potentially in the future

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you could use that again. Is that what you use the reserves?

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Essentially, yes. Okay. One of the big concerns I hear people say is it's going

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to be hard to opt out. So can you give us in 15 seconds what it takes to opt out? Call

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us. Go online and there's a really simple process to say I want to opt out and we basically

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do a lot as Jackie just mentioned to let you know of what your options are to opt out and go back to

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SE or to go with OCPA and go with a different product than you're actually defaulted into.

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So how long do you say that would take if they went online?

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We're talking minute and hour.

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Seconds.

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Seconds.

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So the time that it takes for people to write an email or post store.

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It's it would take

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Class time to actually opt out and stay on edison.

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And I would venture to say that you could email our customer service line and we would do it for you. So, yes.

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Okay. And then last question, and we'll get into, because I'm curious to hear the public as well, is a lot of people on social media recently have said it.

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I'm on solar panels. Can you just reconfirm? I thought you heard to say that you pay back 10% more than edison does if you have solar.

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If you're a solar customer, if you're a solar customer, you would be better off on OCPA than what they're getting through SEE.

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That is correct, yes.

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Okay, I just wanted to confirm that, because that's the question I was asked, so I wanted to ask you.

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That's like an even as of late as a state has moved toward the third iteration of NEM.

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We've stuck with the second iteration of NEM, and so we're still honoring that NEM2 program.

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And so it's even more beneficial for our customers today.

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Somebody that doesn't have rooftop solar.

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Somebody who's looking at that proposition today

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we're even more beneficial for.

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And the opt-out timing is if we start

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let's just say a pro first.

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So from February 1st, February, March, April,

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make through June 1st.

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Anybody could opt-out for any reason.

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They don't need excuse and suit your email.

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Yes.

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Phone call.

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Online fusel.

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Okay.

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All right. That sounds good.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you. We'll go ahead and start with public comments.

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Just one quick housekeeping item, Andrea Martell.

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You didn't put what you want to speak on.

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Is it this item?

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Okay. That's all I need to know.

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First speaker, Katie Wright.

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Hello, mayors.

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Many will come behind me, giving better statistics.

444
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,720
I have a very strong opinion about

445
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,740
what was freely described as adversarials.

446
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:14,600
Anyone who's ever written for a paper knows

447
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,820
actual news never allows adversarials.

448
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,040
That's for the letters to the editor page.

449
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:23,720
So the very publication that he's

450
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,120
bragging about using the back page,

451
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:30,020
I saw that right away, I know how expensive those pages are.

452
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,180
I know that with this election season coming up,

453
00:32:33,380 --> 00:32:35,780
a lot of the candidates who have good funding

454
00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:38,440
are going to be buying big expensive flashy

455
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,780
have tutorials and ads in that particular

456
00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:42,740
publication.

457
00:32:46,790 --> 00:32:51,090
So someone on our diet's referred to have we

458
00:32:51,090 --> 00:32:53,730
been more or less expensive.

459
00:32:54,550 --> 00:32:56,110
This person's on the board of directors.

460
00:32:57,090 --> 00:33:01,190
This person received at his mayor's ball

461
00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:05,550
a $1,500 donation to buy a table at the mayor's

462
00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:06,470
ball by OCPA.

463
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:07,010
I'm sorry.

464
00:33:07,450 --> 00:33:08,230
I'm going to put a border.

465
00:33:08,650 --> 00:33:08,790
Yeah.

466
00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:09,790
That is a border.

467
00:33:10,010 --> 00:33:13,190
You need to address to the board on the issue.

468
00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:14,830
So to the board.

469
00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:17,330
OCPA made it.

470
00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:18,390
This is to the board.

471
00:33:18,410 --> 00:33:26,150
This is to let you know that your credibility as a group on a dius is impacted.

472
00:33:26,290 --> 00:33:36,190
Mr. Mayor, I want to go on record of saying, and this has already been talked about by our attorney, and it's been brought up at many meetings that the Chamber of Commerce put on.

473
00:33:36,190 --> 00:33:41,130
event and they bought a table there, I received no compensation, I don't know what you

474
00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:43,550
said about it, you alluded that.

475
00:33:43,550 --> 00:33:46,370
I did not allude to that, I'll just want to clear up.

476
00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:47,310
You inferred that.

477
00:33:48,130 --> 00:33:48,170
Okay.

478
00:33:48,530 --> 00:33:48,910
Go ahead.

479
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:50,190
We've stopped with you.

480
00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:51,490
You can continue with your time.

481
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:58,650
The big issue to me is the fact that so many citizens in this city do not have social media

482
00:33:58,650 --> 00:33:59,290
skills.

483
00:33:59,750 --> 00:34:04,710
I have mentioned this before and I know it would be expensive and not fruitful for anyone

484
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:06,850
to try and produce a newspaper in this town.

485
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:08,910
Newspapers go under because they're very expensive.

486
00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:10,230
They don't make a lot of money.

487
00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:14,230
But you're not communicating well enough with the public.

488
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:18,650
The person, the entity that wants to promote this,

489
00:34:18,910 --> 00:34:23,550
has plenty of money to reinvest in the community

490
00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:26,310
and advertise and add tutorials.

491
00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:28,590
Think about that.

492
00:34:28,830 --> 00:34:30,970
Someone should look that up and give that consideration.

493
00:34:30,970 --> 00:34:41,710
The actual people who live in this town and pay taxes in this town and have decisions made for them against their will don't have the option of knowing what's going on.

494
00:34:42,050 --> 00:34:51,950
It took me two hours from Sunday till today to let someone that I care about who does not follow social media understand what OCPA even is.

495
00:34:52,790 --> 00:35:04,210
I will admit, I have it, I have a slant, but I made sure that a person knew where to look for more details and that there would be this meeting with several presentation points of you given.

496
00:35:04,830 --> 00:35:07,170
I'm not trying to tell someone what to think.

497
00:35:08,350 --> 00:35:17,130
Others are, and that's my big beef, and the city is not being transparent with letting people know the choices being made on their behalf that they don't agree with.

498
00:35:17,370 --> 00:35:18,510
Thank you.

499
00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:20,410
James Fullerton.

500
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,380
Welcome. Nice presentation. My name is James Fullerton. I'm a 26-year

501
00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:40,000
fountain valley homeowner resident. I am adamantly opposed to fountain valley entering

502
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:49,060
into an agreement with Orange County Power Association. For these reasons, OCPA does not

503
00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:52,960
generate power, OCEPA does not deliver power.

504
00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:57,520
Whatever power OCEPA buys just goes onto the grid,

505
00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:00,540
and you get the same power you are getting now.

506
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,080
You're just paying more for it.

507
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:10,000
SE provides 100% renewable electricity option to its customers as well.

508
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,300
OCEPA acts as a middleman charging up to 18% more than SE.

509
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:20,960
that's flat off of the city of Irvine's website.

510
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,860
OCPA site is a misleading.

511
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,680
It states alternative services,

512
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,160
but it is still the CE services.

513
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,500
Tax pairs, to which I am one,

514
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:38,140
have to fund OCPA.

515
00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:40,740
If OCPA goes down,

516
00:36:41,340 --> 00:36:42,440
nice reserve study,

517
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,260
Fountain Valley will lose all funding.

518
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,780
That's a risk.

519
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:57,400
Honeycomb Beach, our neighboring city, did leave OCPA due to mismanagement, the lack of transparency

520
00:36:57,860 --> 00:37:03,360
and rising electoral costs, and that also off the website.

521
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,860
Mr. Grandus and Mr. Bury are board members of OCPA. Mr. Bury is an alternate.

522
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:18,320
I don't like that brings ethics to mind for me. All I have to say is

523
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:25,700
including, follow the money, not the climate change hyperbole. Thank you very much.

524
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,460
Next speaker, Shankara Singh.

525
00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:44,570
Good afternoon, Mayor Kaneen, Vice Mayor Harper and

526
00:37:44,570 --> 00:37:49,250
city council members, Bui, Ganges, and Conciting.

527
00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:50,610
Did I pronounce it right?

528
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:51,450
Yes, okay.

529
00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:54,330
Hi, my name is Chantala Singh,

530
00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:57,210
and I am with the Asian Business Association

531
00:37:57,210 --> 00:37:58,810
of Orange County.

532
00:37:59,590 --> 00:38:04,930
And so many of our members live and own businesses

533
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:08,290
in this great city of Fountain Valley.

534
00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:12,350
We are also excited.

535
00:38:12,350 --> 00:38:21,130
Fountain Valley is bringing in OCPA because they are so community-centered and have demonstrated

536
00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:28,110
a genuine interest in serving all your residents, listening to diverse community voices

537
00:38:28,110 --> 00:38:36,810
and giving people something so powerful choice that we all love it. We so appreciate your leadership

538
00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:44,030
ship and all your time energy and hard work that makes Fountain Valley such a wonderful place

539
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:48,370
to live, work and own a business in. Thank you.

540
00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:50,270
Harvey Lewis.

541
00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:05,560
Thank you, Mayor. Vice Mayor and Council members. I'm Harvey Lewis, a resident

542
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:11,780
of Irvine since 1976, former Irvine Planning Commissioner and the License Professional Civil

543
00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:16,480
Engineer. First, I should say that this isn't really a study session. We've had a half

544
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:24,760
of a propaganda session. You should offer me another half hour in the future to propose an opposition

545
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,620
session in which it will get some facts which are very different for what you've just heard.

546
00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:35,940
Here is the easiest way to explain why it is impossible for OCPA to help the environment

547
00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:42,440
better than Southern Caledicin, what to change, charge low rates compared to SEE. 20 years

548
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,900
to go. Renewable generated electric energy was much more expensive than fossil fuel generated

549
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:54,780
energy. So then the investor owned utilities like SE purchased fossil fuel generated power

550
00:39:54,780 --> 00:40:00,220
rather than renewably generated electricity because it was a lot cheaper. In those days,

551
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,420
the only way for environmentally concerned ratepayers to reduce their contribution to global

552
00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:12,340
warming was to subscribe to a community choice aggregator like OCPA that purchased the

553
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:18,160
are expensive, then, renewably-generated energy, and, as due-gooder subscribers, happily

554
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,340
paid the higher bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

555
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:28,240
Now, renewably-generated electric power has, for the last five years or so, been much cheaper

556
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,680
than fossil-feel-generated electric power.

557
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:36,580
So the investor-owned utilities, like SE, purchase as much renewably-generated power as they

558
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:42,120
can buy and actually get on the grid, saturating the grid with renewably-generated energy during

559
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:48,840
Today, OCPA with no in-house energy trading expertise and lack of scale cannot compete with

560
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,900
Southern Caledicin in the purchase of renewable-generated energy contracts.

561
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:59,100
So OCPA must hire outside consultants and highly commissioned energy traders who charge

562
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:05,060
big fees and have no incentive whatsoever to minimize costs while SE's employees with

563
00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:11,460
massive experience and the institutional need to maximize profit for SE have every incentive

564
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:17,520
to minimize costs, which means maximizing their purchase of renewable-generated power that

565
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,820
can be put on the grid.

566
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,860
And SE's profit margin is roughly comparable to the Commission's paid by OCPA.

567
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:28,560
So OCPA has no cost advantage whatsoever as an unprofit.

568
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,780
It is impossible for OCPA to put cheaper electricity with higher-enoubles content than SE

569
00:41:34,780 --> 00:41:35,820
on the grid.

570
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,820
And if they charge cheaper rates, it must be subsidized, and they cannot do that for

571
00:41:40,820 --> 00:41:49,740
long. SE has now abandoned their 50% and 100% tears of renewables for new subscribers, because

572
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:53,540
the legitimate additional renewables generated power is not available.

573
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,640
The SE recommends several significant community renewables programs with which is subscribed.

574
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,920
They can contact contract directly and results in SE bill.

575
00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:04,160
However, your time is up.

576
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,180
Thank you.

577
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,460
Tom Chaman,

578
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,200
thank you very much.

579
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,380
Thank you very much everybody.

580
00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:25,480
is it on? Okay. My name is Tom Chowman from Irvine of the 30 years moved out here from Indiana

581
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:33,580
40 years ago. Back in 1972, I was crushing plastic and crushing cans for recycling before

582
00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:45,280
it was cool. So I do love an environment. However, as a resident of Irvine, I am not, I use

583
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,660
how it was going to go. It was a good idea when it started, but it's kind of been a financial

584
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,460
nightmare of $700,000. The city of Irvine pays more in electricity through OCPA than with

585
00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:04,940
SCE. What I did is I put solar panels on my house and that's helped me with my electricity bill.

586
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:12,460
That's that's what I believe in. Something about Irvine, 75% of Irvine does participate in the OCPA,

587
00:43:12,460 --> 00:43:24,260
25% are with SE State average, or is like 18%, and 82%, and the reason why is we tried to educate

588
00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:28,980
everybody in Irvine a lot more about the fine print and to get into it and out of it,

589
00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:31,980
it's fairly easy to get out if you want, you just got to read the five print.

590
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:39,100
Most people don't even know they're in it until they get educated on it, so that's where Irvine's

591
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:45,940
And I just believe that the renewable energy, also right now,

592
00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:56,600
residential in July of 2025, 96,000 people used basic choice only 1237 people use renewable energy.

593
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,460
A question for someone to ask on this is in the city of Irvine, or in what do they expect

594
00:44:02,460 --> 00:44:03,280
in fountain valley?

595
00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:06,900
How many people can get 100% renewable energy like they're promoting?

596
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,500
It's really not the case.

597
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:13,240
They buy it from SE, SE doesn't have enough, they can only sell so much.

598
00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:18,640
So I hope you make a careful choice for your citizens and you save them money.

599
00:44:18,820 --> 00:44:26,280
There's no reason to raise their rates 8 to 15% for to give out $1,000 solar batteries.

600
00:44:26,780 --> 00:44:28,800
So that's all. Thank you.

601
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,740
Stephen Schwartz.

602
00:45:00,620 --> 00:45:08,140
Good evening, mayor, and city council. Speaking tonight, regarding our city's partnership with Orange County Power Authority.

603
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:18,320
When we talk about OCPA, there's a common misconception that this is a complete risky replacement of Southern California medicine.

604
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:26,660
But it's vital to clarify that OCPA is not an alternative to SCE, but it's a partner.

605
00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:30,900
OCPA only handles power generation.

606
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:38,280
The act is our local purchasing agent buying wholesale clean energy at levels each resident

607
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,200
specifies and puts it into the grid.

608
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:50,700
SE on the other hand, still owns operates 100% of the physical infrastructure.

609
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:55,120
When something goes wrong, SE comes out.

610
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Our billing remains consolidated.

611
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,020
We don't separate it for OCTA.

612
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,760
SE just takes out the generation portion and puts in OCPAs.

613
00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:12,410
The most compelling reason, though, is in this partnership,

614
00:46:13,490 --> 00:46:17,970
is a win for the city, because it gives us low local accountability.

615
00:46:18,910 --> 00:46:25,210
With S.E. critical energy decisions are made by corporate executives and boards, accountable

616
00:46:25,210 --> 00:46:27,110
to Wall Street shareholders.

617
00:46:28,690 --> 00:46:37,970
The regulatory oversight happens way up in San Francisco with the CPEUC making nearly

618
00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:39,950
impossible for local input.

619
00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:46,410
OCPA has flipped that corporate top-down model.

620
00:46:46,410 --> 00:46:52,730
It's governed by a board of directors made up of city council members from the participating cities.

621
00:46:59,710 --> 00:47:01,130
Look, I've got it back up.

622
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:24,420
Because there are local representatives, they're directly accountable to us, the voters.

623
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,900
Furthermore, the community advisory committee, which I am a member,

624
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:36,880
is comprised of appointed local residents and stakeholders, ensuring our community has direct seat at the table.

625
00:47:38,830 --> 00:47:47,410
Finally, wow, ACE prioritizes profit margins for global investors, OCPA, as a public non-profit agency.

626
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:54,870
Any financial surpluses generated are designated to be reinvested back into our community.

627
00:47:55,830 --> 00:48:03,330
Allowing us to fund localized, rebates, energy efficiency programs, community incentives, tailored specifically for our needs.

628
00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:13,820
Stephen your times up. D fox. Mr Mayor. Mr Mayor. Just for clarification. But those who may

629
00:48:13,820 --> 00:48:20,900
know may not know. First of all I want to thank you Mr. Swartz. He also served on OCPA as the

630
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:29,500
advisory committee on the residential side. So just for. Yeah, I know. But I pointed by my colleague

631
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:33,040
the current director, so just want that there we go.

632
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:38,300
And just the pause moment, I just wanted to check with the city clerk how many more speakers

633
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:46,540
we have on the study session matters only. We have 13 more speakers. 13 more speakers. Okay, so

634
00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:49,920
we're five minutes past the start of the meeting.

635
00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:58,160
So why don't we talk about how we want to proceed on that? We could continue on with the speakers

636
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,740
and do the full 13. I'll take us into at least 7 o'clock.

637
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:06,510
Well, Robert.

638
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:11,950
Yeah, and the interest of time, I think just maybe we continue this discussion until the next council meeting.

639
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,380
And the next council meeting?

640
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:20,660
Yeah, I think too many people are 13 people or been waiting an hour to speak.

641
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:22,660
I don't think that's going to be too long for them to wait.

642
00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:23,540
And everything.

643
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,620
I mean, this has been announced.

644
00:49:24,620 --> 00:49:25,420
I don't think you're microphone.

645
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,580
Mr. Mayor, this meeting has been announced at this topic for funds.

646
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:42,260
We must keep going because we're going to lose people theoretically here in the audience at home wherever they're watching.

647
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,560
If this is true, the unfortunate situation, but this is our only chance to divide us this.

648
00:49:50,860 --> 00:49:58,100
Okay, let's continue on. Thank you, ma'am. Good and speak.

649
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:04,260
Residents deserve a transparent comparison between the Orange County Power Authority and Southern California Edison.

650
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,880
When OCPA was sold to the public, residents were promised cleaner energy, competitive rates, and local control.

651
00:50:11,420 --> 00:50:19,280
But today, many customers are paying more while receiving power that is not necessarily cleaner than what they would receive from Southern California Edison.

652
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:32,360
The reality is that SE remains responsible for delivering electricity, maintaining the grid, restoring power during outages and handling customer related to transmission and distribution.

653
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:41,800
OCPA does none of those things. OCPA simply purchases electricity on the market and adds its own layer of administration and overhead.

654
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:55,200
Residents should ask a simple question, if SEE is providing the infrastructure and in many cases offering rates that are equal to or lower than OCPA, what exactly are rate pairs receiving any exchange for paying more.

655
00:50:55,700 --> 00:51:05,080
At the same time, OCPA has faced financial challenges, sought loans, relied on waivers from lenders and continues to carry significant operational costs.

656
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:16,060
Yet we see discussions about enhanced employee benefits, generous retirement contributions and expanding compensation packages while rate payer struggle with rising utility bills.

657
00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:32,960
The public deserves full transparency. Every resident should be shown a side-by-side comparison of OCEPA and SCE rates. Power sources, greenhouse gas, admissions, executive compensation, employee benefits, opt-out rates and overall financial performance.

658
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:59,440
If OCPA truly provides a better value, then let's let the data speak for itself, but if residents are paying more for electricity that is no cleaner while funding a growing bureaucracy, then local leaders have a responsibility to acknowledge that reality and consider whether continuing down this path is truly in the best interest of airline families and businesses, and I also want to add just space on what Mr. Moscow had stated.

659
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:05,660
Um, originally signed up with the OCPA was late for his hunting to be each and the county of Orange.

660
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,500
All three are out. Lake Forest got out, hunting to be each got out, and the county of Orange got out.

661
00:52:11,660 --> 00:52:17,180
In fact, Mr. Moscow should know that the county of Orange got out because they're in a lawsuit with them right now.

662
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:22,340
And then also those programs that they speak of are referral sources.

663
00:52:22,620 --> 00:52:27,280
If you click on those on their website, you'll see OCPA does nothing in the way of helping communities.

664
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:39,040
These programs are offered to everyone regarding solar panels, OCPA board member, Captain Intercedor stayed at that if you stay with OCPA, you do not have to put solar panels on your roof.

665
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She is also not an OCPA customer. She lives at UCI and they have their own microgrid.

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So there you go, while she sits there on the board of the OCPA and votes to increase rates, it doesn't affect her. Thank you.

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Connor Troy.

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Welcome. Hi.

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Good evening. Mayor Cunning and Vice Mayor Harper in City

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Council members. We grand is and Constantine. Hi. My name is Connor Troy and I'm a

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24 year old entrepreneur and small business owner and I'm speaking today on behalf of

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my beloved great uncle Steve Tishiro. Who's right behind me and he has lived in

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city for partnering with the Orange County power authority and offering him and all of

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found values. Residents a choice to us that choice means freedom to decide where

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our energy comes from, where we want to be and the people that we want to have around

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us. We're excited to soon be able to choose OCPA as our provider because their top priorities

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are community and the environment and speaking for myself and my generation I've grown up

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in Orange County in an Irvine for over 18 years and my friends and I are genuinely grateful

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for the OCPA and all that they do for the community and for the people here in Orange County.

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We see them as helping protect the planet that we're going to inherit one day and that we're

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hopefully going to run with a good head on our shoulders and yes so I thank you for bringing

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OCPA to our community for listening to us and for giving us a voice. Thank you.

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Laura Sennanian.

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Good evening, Mayor and Honourable City Council. My name is Laura Sennanian and I serve

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actually nine boards. I have a leadership role in nine organizations including co-founder of

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Arab American Business Chamber, current president of the American Business Woman Association here in

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Orange County on the board of the Philippine Chamber, and as well as a member of the Fontam Valley Chamber.

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I want to take a moment to express my appreciation for your consideration of OCPA.

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As someone actively involved with businesses, nonprofits and community organizations throughout the region,

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I have seen firsthand the importance of partnering with organizations that are committed to serving residents

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and creating positive community impact.

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OCPA has demonstrated a strong commitment to community engagement, education,

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and providing resources that help individuals and families make informed choices.

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Their focus extends beyond services.

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They genuinely invest in the well-being of the communities they serve.

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Thank you for your leadership, your dedication

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to the residents of Fontam Valley and for taking the time to consider opportunities that

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can benefit our community.

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I appreciate your service and thoughtful consideration.

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Thank you.

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On Zoom, next is Tomas Castro.

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Good evening, Council.

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My name is Tomas Castro, and I am proud of organizing with climate action campaign.

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As you discussed this study session item tonight, I want to reiterate the many benefits

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that found belly residents receive once the city launches, whether that be in October or next

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date.

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So one, membership in the CCE.

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I'm sorry.

709
00:56:44,910 --> 00:56:47,170
Can you ask the speaker to speak a little louder?

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It's hard to hear him.

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00:56:50,110 --> 00:56:50,350
I'm sorry.

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00:56:50,810 --> 00:56:52,130
Can you speak a little louder, please?

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00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:53,350
Sure.

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And so, in California, we are all familiar with so-called medicine, monopoly, utility, constantly

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raises rates on families.

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They're unchallenged market power.

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as resulted in one in five so-called households being behind of their bills by an average of

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beyond $100. With the CPA, more families have a path out of this unbounded relationship.

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And I would encourage everyone there who is going to bat for SE, whether they would do the same

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for you. The city council will need the right decision in 2024 to join us compete to delay the

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launch will ensure that programs and benefits associated with SE's are adequately implemented in

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I encourage you to stay with course, to not let misinformation from outside parties, the rail level will ultimately be a beneficial course of action for the city.

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Thank you.

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On Zoom, Craig Preston?

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Welcome.

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:53,760
Craig?

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Hello, Found Valley Council Mayor and Vice Mayor.

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Craig Preston, coast of Mesa.

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I run a climate group called Citizens Climate Lobby, Orange County Coast.

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we have members all throughout the area there. Just wanted to speak briefly about how OCPA has

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been long and coming, it improves itself each year. It's kind of like sailing. Sometimes you go

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into the wind, sometimes you go downwind, you've got to tack back and forth and I'm so impressed

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with OCPA getting better every day in what they do. Mr. Moscow presented a slide of how their

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staff continues to be improved each year. So I'm just wanted to say that I've been waiting for

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is that out of all counties on the coast of California, Orange County is the last one that

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had the option of a CCA, a community choice aggregator, or community choice energy.

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I'm so glad we have this option. I live in coast to Mesa and our city. I hope it's going to

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be moving there soon. But we're watching to see other cities that are heroic to jump at

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something new. But yeah, it's a little scary sometimes. And I just want to say,

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it's obviously a monopoly of power is not going to go away easily. They make so much money

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off of us as ratepayers and they don't want to give that up so I'm wanting to thank you for

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your consideration to continue to build this program and be part of it and I hope you stay.

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I was impressed with the slide that said 21,000 megawatts of clean energy power have been put on the

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grid because of CCA's in California. They wouldn't have been there without them. It gets local control

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choice to consumers and is done by a nonprofit organization that is accountable to the public,

746
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just like all of you who are accountable to the public, they'd like to do CCSEE is not

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elected officials. Thank you.

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On Zoom, Eric Leaver. Welcome.

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Eric.

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This is my turn. My name is Eric Lieber. I'm a found dollar resident for 34 years. I'm speaking today in support of the Orange County

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:19,780
power authority. I believe that having the option to choose between those TPA and Edison will have

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a beneficial effect on class. This has been pointed out. Edison has been raising its rates in

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system way and plan to raise the need and more. Without the pressure of competition, if

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they are kind of able to do that with impunity, I believe that competition has to have

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01:00:37,460 --> 01:00:45,880
a beneficial effect on the toss of electricity for our residents. Also, I leave there's a lot of

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01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:53,060
other benefits of having a choice. Costing our service, I think that, you know, Edison could do a better

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01:00:53,060 --> 01:01:02,560
I think that having an option to go to a different server may induce them to provide better service.

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01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,600
And residents will have a choice.

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They want to go with Edison or post EPA.

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They don't have to go with a CPA, but they will have a choice.

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01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:16,040
And the other thing with the choice is that we will have a state in how our electricity can

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generated. We cannot currently tell Edison how we want them to generate electricity. We don't

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have the options to go to clean and non fossil fuel sources of electricity. We're kind

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of out there with their mercy. But I think that Edison is kind of put their cell on scale

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01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:47,340
against rooftop solar, and in terms of their unwillingness to compensate, people who invest

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01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:48,380
in rooftop solar,

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01:01:50,860 --> 01:01:54,740
and therefore taking away that choice from value residents to be able

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to generate their own electricity and sell that back to the power authority in order to

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compensate themselves for the investment. And obviously, we need to move to cleaner source

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of energy to reduce greenhouse gases. Also, I'm understanding that OCDA has the option

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of certain programs for rebates on energy-efficient appliances and the ability to go to

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electrification to remove appliances that are producing greenhouse gases. So as a

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I was trying to find out the rest of it.

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We've heard a lot of people today who are from outside the city.

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01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:46,480
I believe it will be very beneficial to our citizens and I hope that we will stay

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in the course and continue to go with the OCPA.

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The last speaker on Zoom, Beth Hambleton.

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01:02:55,470 --> 01:02:55,730
Welcome.

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She's going to be a different issue.

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Beth?

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She's going to be far enough.

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Beth.

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Did you want to speak about OCPA or...

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or Orange Coast Memorial.

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01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,500
Beth, you can't hear them, but they can hear you go ahead.

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Oh, thank you.

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01:03:30,020 --> 01:03:31,580
Okay, very good.

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Good evening.

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01:03:32,820 --> 01:03:35,900
My name is Beth Hamilton, and I just want to thank you, Mayor

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Coneen, Vice Mayor Harper, and Council for getting me the opportunity

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01:03:39,700 --> 01:03:43,220
to remotely express my support for the parking structure

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01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:45,920
proposal that's at Orange Coast Medical Center.

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01:03:46,780 --> 01:03:48,140
Beth, is the wrong issue?

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01:03:49,380 --> 01:03:50,400
This is the wrong issue.

795
01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:52,160
We're not on that item yet.

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,660
I'm going to put you back on mute, okay?

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01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,000
Next speaker is Libby,

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but I have a problem here

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and you, so I'll just interpret that.

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Welcome.

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01:04:10,290 --> 01:04:16,270
Hi, my name is Libby Fallekman, a 27-year-homeowner here in Thoughton Valley. I'm here to support

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01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:20,650
OCPA coming to Thoughton Valley and I've been anxiously awaiting its implementation.

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01:04:20,650 --> 01:04:27,370
And as a homeowner with NM-2 panels on my roof, I am even more excited about it having heard

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01:04:27,370 --> 01:04:30,630
that I'm going to get more money back from OCPA than I do for medicine.

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I believe we should have a choice in our electricity provider.

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For too long, we've been controlled by a monopoly-powered provider and forced to use Southern

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01:04:40,250 --> 01:04:41,190
California Edison.

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As a result of deregulation, we have a choice for the source of our electricity.

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01:04:46,010 --> 01:04:51,590
Like when AT&T was broken up, we didn't need new phone lines into our homes.

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01:04:51,850 --> 01:04:56,290
We were able to select any phone provider and the service continued on the lines we had.

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01:04:56,870 --> 01:05:01,670
In this case, Edison provides the lines into our homes, but we can choose a different

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01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:02,630
energy provider.

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OCPA is not for profit and to be focused on the community, and I want to see that benefit

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01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:09,590
for Fountain Valley.

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For those that like tradition or have some allegiance to Edison, they can choose to

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01:05:15,170 --> 01:05:21,250
back to SEA any time they want. As for me, I can't wait until my household is part of the

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01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:23,110
SEPA. Thank you.

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,220
Thank you, Johnson.

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Welcome.

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01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:36,710
Good afternoon, I'm Vicky Johnson. I lived in Irvine when OEPA started. I followed it a long time.

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It's really not performing well at all. I am absolutely amazed that the CEO,

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the

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prices are. Today, and for all of 2006, they say, SE would be $200,000 per month for

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01:06:00,770 --> 01:06:12,830
an average home. OCPA, $25,000 more per month, $25 for at least for an average home is what

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OCPA is charging. Now some of the people here speaking in favor of OCPA may not even know

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that this year, the price is exploded.

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Now, why is that?

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Because OCPA lost 45 million from the reserves.

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Yes, they moved reserves into the rate stabilization fund,

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but now it's exhausted, 45 million they lost,

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and they have to make up for that loss

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01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:41,610
and more expenses and hiring that they keep adding.

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01:06:41,950 --> 01:06:42,410
So why?

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Should fountain valley pay for the 45 million

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reserves that OSP has already lost, and you saw a graph up there, they went to raise the reserves

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01:06:53,310 --> 01:07:01,870
up to whatever 150 million. They went fountain valley to fund their reserves and all the

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01:07:01,870 --> 01:07:09,210
XXX expenses. The solution is simple to this. OSP is not what you signed up for two years ago.

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01:07:09,210 --> 01:07:16,430
It's changed. It's been financially troubled and struggling and it's just a mess.

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So, the easy solution is for fountain valley to withdraw from its agreement with OCPA.

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If you wait until April 2027, fountain valley will have started incurring a lot of liability.

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01:07:31,970 --> 01:07:35,750
$17 million a year in power purchases.

842
01:07:36,450 --> 01:07:39,990
You can't wait and easily get out of this mess.

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By the way, I think the beach gave good reasons for getting out, so did Lakeport so did

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01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:46,910
the county of Orange.

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01:07:47,450 --> 01:07:54,210
Costa Mesa, just last November, recommended against joining OSUGA, because of financial disability,

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01:07:55,490 --> 01:07:57,670
just financial instability.

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01:07:57,670 --> 01:08:04,350
So, it's very important, I think, that you consider withdrawing from OCPA immediately until

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its financial performance really, truly improves, and you're not hearing the marketing

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01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:16,090
spiel because all of fountain values can be paying a lot of money just to rebuild reserves.

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Let alone all the extra expenses they add to the cost of energy.

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Thank you.

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01:08:22,810 --> 01:08:23,830
Andrea Martel.

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01:08:30,350 --> 01:08:30,670
Welcome.

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01:08:30,670 --> 01:08:40,490
council members. I'm kind of new to this issue, but my background was in financial planning, administrative services, real estate.

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01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:48,470
It seems to me that this OCPA is a new layer of administration inserted in there.

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01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:59,670
They're leaving the balance of the maintenance of the infrastructure on Southern California, Edison, and just taking profits for beating a purchasing agent.

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01:08:59,670 --> 01:09:12,670
And that doesn't make sense to me and I don't understand why there are so many cities that are bailing out of this, but that should be a big red flag. It would be to me.

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01:09:13,850 --> 01:09:18,830
And I don't see why we need this. I mean, I love all the PR and the community service and all of that.

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01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:23,570
But Southern California, Edison is still going to have to maintain all the infrastructure.

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01:09:23,570 --> 01:09:30,630
And it's not like a phone line which it now is on, you know, out and mid-air, they've got wiring and telephone poles.

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01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:35,530
I've got two telephone poles in my backyard and they're right there and they, anyway.

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01:09:36,230 --> 01:09:38,530
I appreciate the service I get from them.

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01:09:39,250 --> 01:09:40,450
Thank you.

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01:09:41,270 --> 01:09:42,450
Lest in True Blood.

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01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:02,740
I go down.

866
01:10:04,660 --> 01:10:12,300
Well, I've been in sales and marketing probably about 50 years and I really love fantasy.

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01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:24,260
fantasy land, wizard of eyes, pretty, you know, lure in the water, glitter presentations and that's pretty much what I've seen tonight from O.C.

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01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:26,660
What do we call power authority?

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01:10:28,220 --> 01:10:37,180
As a resident and a taxpayer, I would specifically love to see bullet points from the cities

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01:10:37,180 --> 01:10:42,540
that have been mentioned of why they first associated with this organization and left.

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,840
As a resident, I'd like to see that.

872
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:45,800
I haven't seen that.

873
01:10:45,940 --> 01:10:47,940
I've heard all the, you know, wonderful.

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01:10:48,460 --> 01:10:51,700
It's going to be green and you're going to just love it kind of stuff.

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01:10:51,700 --> 01:11:12,460
But I'd love to see those bullet points, and I'd love to have these folks answer those specific questions that are supplied by these other cities and their residents of why it just kind of didn't work out and they decided to divorce themselves from the power authority.

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01:11:13,860 --> 01:11:22,000
I'd also like to know that if the Orange County Power Authority makes some really bonehead financial moves,

877
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:34,360
and they go into the red or their sued individuals or organizations, what is the liability to the City of Fountain Valley and its residents?

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01:11:35,380 --> 01:11:37,560
Thank you very much for hearing me.

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,160
Brian Jennings.

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01:11:54,090 --> 01:11:58,750
Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Kineen, Vice Mayor Harper, a steam city council and city staff.

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01:11:58,970 --> 01:12:02,170
My name is Brian Jennings. I'm a community volunteer here in Fountain Valley,

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01:12:03,090 --> 01:12:08,150
group here in Fountain Valley, went to Cox, Masuda, and a family high school.

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01:12:08,370 --> 01:12:11,650
So I've been here quite a while. I've seen a lot of changes happen in the area,

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01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:17,590
served in the community volunteer position the last 14 years. So I've been in chair of various

885
01:12:18,530 --> 01:12:27,110
Organizations on the panels for other organizations and see many things. I think a most of the point is all the misinformation we're getting here tonight about OCPA

886
01:12:27,630 --> 01:12:33,830
I think they're getting a bad rap or stuff that happened three years ago that no longer exists the situation is totally different. It's not the same organization

887
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:34,970
They were then

888
01:12:34,970 --> 01:12:39,390
If you do your homework, you go back and look and see all the finances all that stuff

889
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:44,250
This is totally different organization that was that. So if you come back and leave everything now if you don't have change

890
01:12:44,250 --> 01:12:48,430
You don't have competition, let's say we didn't have all these gas stations on the corner right

891
01:12:48,430 --> 01:12:52,770
here, would you be getting $6 gas, maybe getting $12 gas.

892
01:12:53,570 --> 01:12:57,710
What happened to your homeowners insurance policies the past three years have they gone down?

893
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:59,070
You know why?

894
01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:00,950
There's no competition out there.

895
01:13:02,190 --> 01:13:05,790
Neacompatition to breed change and to breed price seam structures and stuff like that.

896
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:09,090
It's six-time to do that, but what's not right for you to keep this in mind?

897
01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:12,910
Might be right for your neighbor, so give them a chance that these policies and things

898
01:13:12,910 --> 01:13:19,250
because you know just because it doesn't work for you, you don't have to change. You can stick with what you have now. That's not, you know,

899
01:13:19,330 --> 01:13:24,010
taking take on away from you. So let's keep that in mind going forward and I really appreciate your

900
01:13:24,010 --> 01:13:29,730
base last night, everybody can out tonight and looking forward to your guys decision. I'm obviously in favor of

901
01:13:29,730 --> 01:13:36,620
of OCPA. So thank you. Chris. Yes, I can't read your last name.

902
01:13:39,580 --> 01:13:40,240
Yes, sir.

903
01:13:54,930 --> 01:14:02,010
Thank you. Mary, welcome, Mayor Coneen and the members of City Council. My name is Chris

904
01:14:02,010 --> 01:14:08,250
Hillgrave, I've lived in Fountain Valley since 1986. We are paying exorbitant rates for

905
01:14:08,250 --> 01:14:14,970
a basic human necessity right now. That's our entire community is paying rates that have

906
01:14:14,970 --> 01:14:18,510
raised 83% since 2016.

907
01:14:19,730 --> 01:14:24,210
Such extreme increases in rates happen in part because there is no competition.

908
01:14:24,510 --> 01:14:29,950
That's a topic that's been brought up a lot here, but it has an enormous value for everybody

909
01:14:29,950 --> 01:14:31,690
in this country.

910
01:14:32,930 --> 01:14:38,410
We citizens of Fountain Valley have had no choice up to now, but to give all our energy

911
01:14:38,410 --> 01:14:41,110
business to Southern California Edison.

912
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:48,010
and Southern California Edison is a monopoly that is set up to make profits for their shareholders.

913
01:14:48,990 --> 01:14:51,050
Not to do what is best for their customers.

914
01:14:51,250 --> 01:14:58,010
That might explain a little bit about the increase in rates over the last 10 or 15 years.

915
01:14:58,010 --> 01:14:59,990
They don't...

916
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:14,600
Profit by reducing costs for us. They profit by creating new infrastructure that they build. Our welfare is not their biggest priority. In fact, it doesn't seem to be a priority at all to them.

917
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:24,000
Change outside the walls of Southern California Edison is way overdue and can only be a good thing for the citizens of Fountain Valley.

918
01:15:25,620 --> 01:15:32,100
And the reason for that is because we will surely benefit from some competition for our energy business.

919
01:15:32,620 --> 01:15:36,940
Nobody will have to actually sign up for Orange County Power Authority.

920
01:15:37,220 --> 01:15:40,520
They can stick with Southern California Edison. It's no problem.

921
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:46,020
Even if Orange County Power Authority starts off saving

922
01:15:46,020 --> 01:15:50,680
Fountain Valley citizens just 3% that's better than our present

923
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:55,340
SE rate and Orange County Power Authority would be motivated

924
01:15:55,340 --> 01:15:59,660
to continue to work to reduce costs even more to keep

925
01:15:59,660 --> 01:16:02,720
and grow their business because that's something that they're

926
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:07,060
interested in accomplishing unlike Southern California Edison.

927
01:16:07,660 --> 01:16:12,180
I don't know any more than any of you, and I'm not smarter than any of you.

928
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:17,660
Our city has elected many of you for your extensive business experience.

929
01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:23,620
I just want to express my appreciation for all the hard work and many hours spent by each

930
01:16:23,620 --> 01:16:26,780
of you on the City Council for us.

931
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:32,520
And express appreciation as well for the work of our wonderful fountain valley city staff

932
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:33,840
to reach this point.

933
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:41,360
I am hopeful that all this garnered expertise in large amount of effort will provide the expected

934
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:49,360
result that has been planned for and submitted as being recommended by the city staff that

935
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:54,620
fountain valley will join with the Orange County Power Authority to give fountain valley an

936
01:16:54,620 --> 01:17:00,280
exciting and less costly energy future for all of us citizens of fountain valley.

937
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,900
Chris, your time is up. Thank you. Thank you.

938
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:03,600
Anna Katsuki.

939
01:17:13,630 --> 01:17:18,230
Thank you. Anna Katsuki. And I'm a resident of Fountain Valley wasn't planning to speak tonight.

940
01:17:18,990 --> 01:17:27,650
I am not an expert when it comes to utilities. OCPA versus Edison. All I can tell you is my own personal feelings.

941
01:17:28,430 --> 01:17:34,350
So, I don't know about everybody else, but it seems like every, I'm going to exaggerate a little bit.

942
01:17:34,350 --> 01:17:39,270
Every few months I get that little piece of paper that says your rates are going to go up.

943
01:17:39,610 --> 01:17:44,570
And I felt so frustrated because every time I turned around, Edison's rates were going up.

944
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:51,490
And I felt like if I lit a candle, I'd go from Tier 1 to Tier 3 without doing anything.

945
01:17:52,050 --> 01:17:56,630
So I, in last year, OCPA came to the Fountain Valley Women's Club meeting.

946
01:17:56,990 --> 01:18:04,330
And so I did a little homework and I did go on an AI platform to compare OCPA with SE for my personal situation.

947
01:18:04,330 --> 01:18:08,110
and OCPA came out a little bit ahead.

948
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:12,630
In 2014, because I was sick and tired of Edison raising their rates,

949
01:18:13,070 --> 01:18:16,090
I was paying 22.3% per kilowatt.

950
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:17,510
We got solar.

951
01:18:18,130 --> 01:18:20,890
I know it was expensive and I convinced my husband.

952
01:18:21,130 --> 01:18:22,370
He went along with it.

953
01:18:22,610 --> 01:18:24,130
Best decision I ever made.

954
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:27,690
Today you're paying 34 to 35 cents per kilowatt.

955
01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:29,330
It's going to 50 to 60%.

956
01:18:30,450 --> 01:18:32,090
I don't do that.

957
01:18:32,270 --> 01:18:32,950
I don't pay that.

958
01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:37,590
Now, I do have to say, I have not had to pay an electric bill for years.

959
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:41,610
For the first time this year, I had to pay money to Edison.

960
01:18:42,170 --> 01:18:46,510
So, I'm checking on the AI plate and it's because of the rates increasing.

961
01:18:47,230 --> 01:18:51,450
And now, instead of them paying me, I know I had to pay them for the first time.

962
01:18:51,450 --> 01:18:55,470
And I've had the electric solar panels since 2014.

963
01:18:55,470 --> 01:19:03,170
So, for me, I'm very open to OCPA. I believe in giving them a shot. If you don't like

964
01:19:03,170 --> 01:19:09,670
them, opt out. But my experience with Edison has not been a good one, and that's the reason

965
01:19:09,670 --> 01:19:15,330
I went with solar because I was sick and tired of having my rates raised every, I felt like

966
01:19:15,330 --> 01:19:17,070
every few months. So, thank you.

967
01:19:18,190 --> 01:19:18,870
Microwave.

968
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:27,640
Thank you.

969
01:19:27,860 --> 01:19:28,800
I'm Microwave.

970
01:19:29,020 --> 01:19:29,660
Oh, choice.

971
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,540
Yeah, that's a really good idea.

972
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:33,300
Right?

973
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,580
It's really a good idea.

974
01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:37,220
Here's a way to implement that.

975
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:45,740
Instead of having OCPA automatically opt you in, have them automatically opt you out.

976
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:51,860
And then each individual customer can look and examine and ask themselves,

977
01:19:51,860 --> 01:20:00,100
Is this something I want to do my cadress the council I'll excuse me my voice carries over the back of my head

978
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:11,800
But so I think that would be a great way to implement choice instead of just leaving it up to a council where the dyes is already sort of unbored with

979
01:20:13,480 --> 01:20:19,580
OCPA the way I read it another thing outside forces coming to speak here

980
01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:31,040
It's not the fountain valley of power authority, it's not the fountain valley power authority, it's the Orange County power authority.

981
01:20:31,620 --> 01:20:37,140
Anyone in Orange County is appropriate to speak about this subject.

982
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,980
Even Mr. Castro, if he lives in Orange County, welcome a board, sir.

983
01:20:42,980 --> 01:21:05,920
So, let's get realistic about what choice means, and let's recognize that it's not the fountain valley authority, power authority, it's the Orange County power authority, and they will have a superrogatory power over your government, and it's not going to be good for you.

984
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:08,920
By the way, let's see how much time do I have here.

985
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:18,960
I attend many of the OCPA board meetings, and I see gentleman on this dyes there.

986
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:30,540
I never see them speaking against anything or actually voting rather against anything that OCPA asks them to approve.

987
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,880
They always perform almost.

988
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:44,960
It's almost as if their obligation is primarily to OCPA, not to the residents that you represent or should represent here at home.

989
01:21:45,360 --> 01:22:00,580
You have a fiduciary obligation to look out for your customers. Why charge them more from something they can get cheaper from a reliable regulated source. OCPA ain't really regulated.

990
01:22:00,580 --> 01:22:08,360
did. Thank you very much. I have no other request to speak. Okay, thank you. Open up to

991
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,340
Council for maybe some closing comments.

992
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:18,840
Closing. Councilwoman Constantine. Mayor Kenine, I came prepared. I mean, a lot of it I have

993
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:26,100
notes from here, but this is going to take a while. And I mean, it's well-deserved because

994
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:30,480
we are here, this is our only opportunity and there's so many holes in this thing.

995
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:32,680
You want me to go ahead?

996
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:33,580
You have it before.

997
01:22:34,260 --> 01:22:34,280
Okay.

998
01:22:34,420 --> 01:22:35,460
Thank you.

999
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:42,660
Well, quite frankly, when I voted up here in October of 2024 and then again, on November of 2024, I got it right.

1000
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,520
Lake Forest was actually a member.

1001
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:51,240
And our meetings are recorded and they are part of our city's history, so they really should be accurate.

1002
01:22:52,220 --> 01:22:54,480
As we've heard, SE is much more.

1003
01:22:54,660 --> 01:22:56,700
Council member Constantine, can you speak to them?

1004
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,100
I got people in this, they can't hear you from them.

1005
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:06,920
no problem. So anyway, Southern California rates are more reasonable. There's a lot of people

1006
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:13,100
excited to pay over $300 a month. Good for you guys. I do have some questions for OCPA

1007
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:20,220
if I may and may I please have Mr. Moscow join the microphone. Thank you Joe. A couple of things

1008
01:23:20,220 --> 01:23:28,260
here, the official vote by OCPA board was not until June 8 but we understood in our city council meeting

1009
01:23:28,260 --> 01:23:37,020
on June 2nd, that we were going to be pushed from this October to April to start up.

1010
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:38,240
And I questioned that.

1011
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:39,780
I questioned the validity of that.

1012
01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:46,640
I also questioned how we go from, first of all, I don't want to see P. I'm not going to

1013
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,740
make any bones about it, but I will be respectful.

1014
01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:55,780
So with that being said, how we go from October to April, and your intention is to start

1015
01:23:55,780 --> 01:24:00,760
by power for us starting a January, but you don't know what the rates are going to be.

1016
01:24:01,180 --> 01:24:06,180
So this question is multi-levels here, and we do need a lot of answers, unfortunately,

1017
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:09,080
because the public is really wanting to know.

1018
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:10,700
Well, thank you, Councilwoman.

1019
01:24:11,340 --> 01:24:16,540
So in terms of the change of launch date from October of 2026, that was something that was

1020
01:24:16,540 --> 01:24:21,920
originally discussed with the city council while over a year ago when we were putting

1021
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,780
together our implementation plan.

1022
01:24:23,780 --> 01:24:30,560
The goal for Orange County Power Authority is a very smooth transition from SC for energy

1023
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:35,900
generation services to OCPA. We want to make sure to smooth from a customer experience.

1024
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,940
We want to make sure that there's no hiccups.

1025
01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:42,940
And so in conjunction in collaboration with all of our partners, the City of Fountain Valley,

1026
01:24:43,420 --> 01:24:49,740
Southern California Edison, we've decided that it was best from a customer experience perspective

1027
01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:57,260
to shift the launch date just a little bit to April of 2027 so that we can have that smooth transition.

1028
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:06,660
So that we can work with all of our partners to make sure that the transition from SC to OCPA service is without a hiccup, without a problem.

1029
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:14,580
And so it was really about ensuring the customer programs were flawless and making sure that everything was perfect.

1030
01:25:14,580 --> 01:25:26,960
Okay, one Mr. Mosca. So why we want to commit to April and I still question the validity of that vote because I did question numerous times up here about the start date, and is this really the case?

1031
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:33,220
How can you, so you can't guarantee that what the power rates are going to be in January then?

1032
01:25:33,220 --> 01:25:40,320
So, the Board of Directors will get information on what Southern California Edison will

1033
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:46,240
is forecasting for 2027 because the competitive margin is always important so as we're

1034
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:52,720
setting our rates and I showed you a slide on our five-year forecast, fairly steady in terms

1035
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:58,320
of the revenue requirement for OCPA. We'll continue to brief our board on the revenue requirement

1036
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:04,260
for OCPA on the rates that SCE is filing with the California Public Utilities Commission and

1037
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:05,200
will make a decision.

1038
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:10,240
The Board of Directors will make a decision by the end of 2026 about rates for 2027.

1039
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,780
So we could get pushed, it's the more theoretically speaking.

1040
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,160
The change in launch date has nothing to do with the rates.

1041
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:24,260
It has everything to do with thousands of customers being transitioned from SCE service

1042
01:26:24,260 --> 01:26:25,100
to OCPA.

1043
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:30,200
And wanting to make sure that that is a done in a flawless way so that there are no

1044
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,000
hiccups and that we're communicating constantly with our customers.

1045
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,040
Having a little bit more time allows us to continue communicating with our customers.

1046
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,180
Jackie Henderson laid out some of the plans that we have.

1047
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,700
It allows us to continue to communicate with our customers.

1048
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:48,380
Work with our partners such as Southern California medicine to make sure that the transition

1049
01:26:48,380 --> 01:26:49,620
is as smooth as possible.

1050
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,340
Is your company bleeding at least $5 million a month?

1051
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,320
I just showed you the financials.

1052
01:26:54,320 --> 01:27:02,860
are you really not bleeding much monthly. So just like the City of Fountain Valley, our budgets are

1053
01:27:02,860 --> 01:27:09,780
online and they're also third party audit on a yearly basis. All of our budgets dating back

1054
01:27:09,780 --> 01:27:16,560
to the founding of OCPA, all of the third party audits are online and no, we're not bleeding

1055
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:23,720
whatever $5 million that you just said. So as far as duty power then, I'm seeing that

1056
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:34,260
The latest data reflects that the power from OCPA is nearly twice, twice worse than Edison.

1057
01:27:35,140 --> 01:27:36,000
Is that not true?

1058
01:27:36,940 --> 01:27:38,240
So, it's not true.

1059
01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:48,480
So, I said in my slide deck that for the third consecutive year, a national agency has said Orange County Power Authority is the largest provider,

1060
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:52,380
largest provider of green sales in the United States of America.

1061
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,460
So it cannot be true that we're dirty,

1062
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,400
and that we're the largest provider of green energy in the country.

1063
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,600
Are we a game changer for Orange County?

1064
01:28:00,140 --> 01:28:02,020
Yes, do we provide more renewable energy?

1065
01:28:02,260 --> 01:28:05,160
Do we buy more renewable energy and have less carbon emissions

1066
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,140
than SC? Yes, it is our mission.

1067
01:28:08,620 --> 01:28:12,820
SC does not even claim to buy as much renewable energy as we do.

1068
01:28:13,260 --> 01:28:16,340
99% of their customers are at their base product.

1069
01:28:16,340 --> 01:28:21,000
their base product is less renewable energy than our base product.

1070
01:28:21,380 --> 01:28:24,520
We have 100% product and a smart choice base product.

1071
01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:30,580
So there is no way that when you look at the totality of our portfolio that they would

1072
01:28:30,580 --> 01:28:32,940
have less carbon emissions.

1073
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,980
We have less carbon emissions when you look at the totality of our portfolio.

1074
01:28:38,180 --> 01:28:42,260
We have less carbon emissions and we purchase more renewable energy by far.

1075
01:28:42,260 --> 01:28:53,120
We're not only purchased more renewable energy than SE, but all of our competition, our last power content label,

1076
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:58,860
which is what the California Energy Commission puts out, so that we purchase 80% renewable energy,

1077
01:28:59,180 --> 01:29:07,500
80% of our portfolio is from renewable energy. The power content label for 2025 is coming out in September,

1078
01:29:07,500 --> 01:29:13,520
for SE and for OCPA, and will continue to make progress in terms of reducing carbon emissions

1079
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,020
and increasing the amount of renewable energy that we're putting onto the grid.

1080
01:29:17,540 --> 01:29:23,100
Okay, so as far as opting out, you know, that you when your business associate, we're pretty

1081
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:27,580
much stating that people could come and go as they want to change their plans as they wanted.

1082
01:29:28,460 --> 01:29:34,600
I'm hearing that if you opt out, and something doesn't go well, you are basically locked in

1083
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:39,840
a six-month period. Is that not true? And there's certain periods that one can opt out. Is that you

1084
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,420
cannot opt out whenever you want to. So the

1085
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,940
pre-60 day window people can make choices to switch

1086
01:29:52,940 --> 01:29:59,260
to their energy plan or stay with SE for any amount of time. No changes to their electricity

1087
01:29:59,260 --> 01:29:59,940
be serviced.

1088
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,900
That all 60 days after the transition, you can make any transition immediately and opt-out or change your plan immediately.

1089
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:15,260
After the fact, after we do come into Fountain Valley, there is a transition period if somebody does want to opt-out.

1090
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:26,240
There is a six month transition period. Essentially, the Southern California Edison would need to procure the amount of energy that they thought we were procuring for that customer on their behalf.

1091
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:34,400
And so there is a six month period where they would either be with SE and a transitional rate or they would stay with OCPA for six months.

1092
01:30:34,700 --> 01:30:42,420
Yeah, because for me, soundbites to our residents and our businesses just don't cut it and I really mean that with all due respect.

1093
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:48,100
So just letting people think they can opt out and make changes whenever when in reality that's not the case.

1094
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:54,560
It's a tough situation, I don't know, I'm just going to just black and white this.

1095
01:30:54,860 --> 01:31:00,600
So when asked about fountain value potentially getting out of this contract that we have

1096
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:08,680
even though we're not getting any energy from OCPA, what are we in for financially if

1097
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,560
we wanted to cancel the contract?

1098
01:31:11,980 --> 01:31:17,820
So we hope that we have a long future with fountain value that we're helping you with all

1099
01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:24,820
your goals, but if you wanted to withdraw from OCPA, then yes, then the contract would be

1100
01:31:24,820 --> 01:31:31,040
the guide. I would say that we certainly would work collaboratively with your team.

1101
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:37,120
As we have always worked collaboratively with your team, to ensure that whatever cost there is,

1102
01:31:37,340 --> 01:31:45,020
it's mitigated to the greatest extent possible. So there's no, it would be better to exit soon

1103
01:31:45,020 --> 01:31:47,320
rather than later I take it.

1104
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:52,640
So any cost of which are all would be based on the energy

1105
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,680
that there are several different ways that you look at this.

1106
01:31:56,140 --> 01:31:58,580
But the two buckets would be the cost of energy

1107
01:31:58,580 --> 01:32:01,360
that we procured on behalf of the city of Fountain Valley

1108
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,600
and any resource adequacy that we basically

1109
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,240
purchase on behalf of Fountain Valley.

1110
01:32:06,300 --> 01:32:10,600
We would basically reuse resell that if we had to.

1111
01:32:10,860 --> 01:32:13,360
And we would mitigate as much of the cost as possible.

1112
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:25,240
So we hope that you're with us for a long period of time and if, but if there's a future date down the line that there is a discussion and you feel that we haven't performed.

1113
01:32:25,460 --> 01:32:28,200
We haven't competed in the way that we said we are.

1114
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,300
And there's a moment that you are thinking about withdrawal.

1115
01:32:31,660 --> 01:32:37,180
Then we would work collaboratively with you to ensure that there's, from a customer experience,

1116
01:32:37,180 --> 01:32:44,760
It's as smooth as possible to transition back to S.E. and there is little cost if not any cost to go back to S.E.E.

1117
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,400
What did it cause time to repeat to drop out?

1118
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,420
It didn't cost anything to be anything.

1119
01:32:52,170 --> 01:32:54,270
And they had service with O.C.P.A.

1120
01:32:57,250 --> 01:32:57,790
I'm finished.

1121
01:32:58,210 --> 01:32:59,970
I think we need to cycle out.

1122
01:33:00,090 --> 01:33:03,150
I would really, I mean, how irresponsible are we as a city?

1123
01:33:03,570 --> 01:33:08,770
I really implore my council members to really think about this quickly, though.

1124
01:33:09,030 --> 01:33:09,670
Thank you.

1125
01:33:09,670 --> 01:33:11,850
Any other council comments?

1126
01:33:13,090 --> 01:33:13,630
Councilmember Boy.

1127
01:33:14,150 --> 01:33:14,750
Yeah, I see.

1128
01:33:14,890 --> 01:33:24,810
There's another person here in the room that is also appointed by Councilmember Grindus as an advisory for the community from the business side, which is Elizabeth.

1129
01:33:25,250 --> 01:33:25,730
It's really.

1130
01:33:25,950 --> 01:33:28,530
I'd like to hear if you have anything to say.

1131
01:33:28,990 --> 01:33:30,350
Especially be serving on that board.

1132
01:33:36,620 --> 01:33:36,640
Welcome.

1133
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,000
Good evening, Mayor.

1134
01:33:38,420 --> 01:33:38,620
Councilmember.

1135
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:39,660
Thank you.

1136
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:41,780
Check Councilmember Boy for the opportunity to speak.

1137
01:33:41,780 --> 01:33:47,360
I want to be clear that comments that I express are as a private citizen of the City of

1138
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:52,340
Van Valley, long-term privacy citizen, they are not to represent any other opinions that

1139
01:33:52,340 --> 01:33:52,780
I may hold.

1140
01:33:53,500 --> 01:33:59,060
So, I do have the privilege of serving as a community advisory council member with the history

1141
01:33:59,060 --> 01:34:07,940
of supporting community programs, building, awareness, my perspective in my role with OCPA in

1142
01:34:07,940 --> 01:34:10,940
this volunteer advisory role is to ensure

1143
01:34:10,940 --> 01:34:13,980
that the residents of Mount Valley understand what this means.

1144
01:34:14,260 --> 01:34:16,980
We have heard of a variety of comments here tonight,

1145
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,320
some factual, some perhaps not.

1146
01:34:20,900 --> 01:34:23,360
And so as I look ahead at the future of Mount Valley

1147
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,680
and our partnership with OCPA, what mechanisms

1148
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,580
do we have in place to ensure that appropriate communication

1149
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,680
is slowing to the residents so that anyone can make the choice

1150
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:34,880
that is best for them?

1151
01:34:35,300 --> 01:34:37,500
I do believe in choice, I think that OCPA

1152
01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:41,220
from my experience over the last, almost 18 months,

1153
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:46,080
has been that of how do we support the community?

1154
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:51,060
I've sat on a variety of grant application reviews

1155
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:54,360
for other cities, because found Valley has not qualified

1156
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:55,400
for those yet.

1157
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,320
But I envision a time where fountain valley residents

1158
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,060
will benefit from some of these additional community

1159
01:35:01,060 --> 01:35:02,640
benefits that OCP provides.

1160
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:07,360
And so, in short, there is benefit and choice.

1161
01:35:07,580 --> 01:35:10,420
Overall, I think we all like a variety of choices.

1162
01:35:11,480 --> 01:35:13,640
And OCPA does provide that.

1163
01:35:13,700 --> 01:35:17,820
And again, in my role in supporting with the Community Advisory Council,

1164
01:35:17,860 --> 01:35:23,080
I've had an opportunity to see what some of the other communities

1165
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,280
have been able to benefit from in the way of grants,

1166
01:35:26,620 --> 01:35:28,040
support, and community engagement.

1167
01:35:28,620 --> 01:35:29,980
So thank you for the opportunity to speak.

1168
01:35:32,740 --> 01:35:41,220
Thank you. Thank you for serving. Okay, I think that will. Vice Marraver. Thank you.

1169
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:52,360
I'd be question about the budget. And I noticed in the back of the budget, page 26 you have a forecast of a five year

1170
01:35:52,360 --> 01:36:02,800
pro-forma, 2627 to 231, 232, and if I look at the breakdown of the revenue, it has basic

1171
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:11,460
plan and then smart choice and 100% renewable. And it appears that about 96% of the revenues

1172
01:36:11,460 --> 01:36:19,380
coming from basic choice and 4% is coming from smart choice and 100% renewable. Is that right?

1173
01:36:19,380 --> 01:36:30,920
That's correct. Okay, so I guess one question for me is, you know, a lot of the, I guess the theory behind

1174
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:40,380
Moving to a community choice aggregator is that the, you know, a number of people would be opting to pay a little more for these

1175
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:49,120
Cleaner options and if, you know, it seems like only 4% of your customers are actually choosing the Cleaner options

1176
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:58,900
And to me, it's not really a very compelling story that's being told by the numbers.

1177
01:37:01,340 --> 01:37:05,840
And getting back to the, I guess, the rate question.

1178
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:14,060
I do think that if we move forward with the power authority,

1179
01:37:14,060 --> 01:37:25,920
One of the reasons I voted to move forward is because of the 3% discount over so Caledicin,

1180
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:32,600
which was going to benefit the 96% of people that maybe aren't going to be in the smart

1181
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:33,660
choice or clean renewable.

1182
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:39,940
So I think that's really important if we decide to move forward.

1183
01:37:39,940 --> 01:37:45,020
So I'd but I appreciate the presentation tonight and I have no doubt about your

1184
01:37:45,020 --> 01:37:52,760
visibility to deliver on the, you know, the operational site, but thank you, Council Member.

1185
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:57,260
So I would say that that smart choice is, you know, it's a bargain.

1186
01:37:57,620 --> 01:38:03,520
I mean, you'll see when the power content label comes out soon for both SC and OCPA.

1187
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:09,580
You'll see that that, that smart choice delivered 95 percent between renewable energy and

1188
01:38:09,580 --> 01:38:17,240
carbon-free energy, 95% renewable and carbon-free energy, so it's a bargain, and it's price

1189
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:24,440
well, and it's a reason why about 50% are at the basic choice. All the others are between

1190
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:30,720
the smart choice and the 100% choice, but that you're right in terms of numbers. And we are aiming

1191
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:35,580
to prevent our board of directors, even though this was a transitional year for us, we are aiming

1192
01:38:35,580 --> 01:38:41,300
to go back to what we've learned from the past, which is to have a basic product, which is less

1193
01:38:41,300 --> 01:38:46,440
than SE, and then also to deal with the other products where we do give our commercial

1194
01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:49,740
customers some sort of predictability that they've been wanting.

1195
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,940
Yeah, I think they're going to have kind of a hybrid option if that is the case.

1196
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:59,120
You know, one of the things that was talked about in the comments was competition and how

1197
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:04,320
competition is supposed to bring down price. It doesn't seem like it's bringing down the price,

1198
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:10,520
at least not at this time. So for those who think that competition is going to bring you a lower

1199
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:15,420
price as I would, I guess I would push back a little bit on that with what we've seen so far.

1200
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:22,200
And, you know, one thing I will note though is that the Southern California Edison,

1201
01:39:22,780 --> 01:39:27,580
they do have a green rate, which is, you know, an option for renewable energy, but it's fully

1202
01:39:27,580 --> 01:39:34,680
subscribe so even if you wanted to get on their green program you couldn't so I do see a kind

1203
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:41,980
of a legitimate argument that those that do want to have renewable energy that you know

1204
01:39:41,980 --> 01:39:52,420
with OCP there could be a choice so those are my comments you know I think I think we need

1205
01:39:52,420 --> 01:39:58,540
to figure out when the, you know, if we're going to make a decision on this that's not in

1206
01:39:58,540 --> 01:40:05,960
our current direction, what would be the dates that we'd have to hit in order to do that?

1207
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:13,040
If I could, I would just say that, that in terms of competition, that it's not only about

1208
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:18,380
the rates, it's about the overarching kind of idea of affordability and rates are just

1209
01:40:18,380 --> 01:40:23,580
part of your affordability when you're basically investing money and customer programs that are all

1210
01:40:23,580 --> 01:40:29,440
aimed at reducing your energy consumption and reducing your cost that is also about affordability.

1211
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:35,680
Some can say that maybe the programs don't go for enough. I think the programs that we've launched

1212
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:40,820
and the programs that are part of other agencies that we're helping bring to Orange County

1213
01:40:40,820 --> 01:40:46,360
are really moving the dial, but let's say some folks differ in terms of whether the effectiveness.

1214
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:50,560
If OCPA didn't exist, those programs wouldn't exist.

1215
01:40:50,780 --> 01:40:53,100
The only thing you would have is Southern California medicine.

1216
01:40:53,700 --> 01:40:56,380
Our programs are all filling the gap and

1217
01:40:56,380 --> 01:40:59,040
complementing what you already get with medicine.

1218
01:40:59,380 --> 01:41:00,540
So it's an added value.

1219
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,540
So competition is increasing the customer excellence.

1220
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,080
You heard tonight a lot of folks talking about customer service,

1221
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:07,940
customer excellence.

1222
01:41:09,020 --> 01:41:11,720
So competition increases not only the affordability,

1223
01:41:11,780 --> 01:41:15,640
but customer excellence increases the options.

1224
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:22,690
The ability to tailor some of the programs to your needs, I think, are all part of that competition as well.

1225
01:41:25,390 --> 01:41:25,950
Councillor Grettis?

1226
01:41:26,610 --> 01:41:31,990
Yeah, so a couple things, one thing with competition, too, you say that it's really not having an effect.

1227
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:39,810
I would argue that if there was in competition, how much higher would the rates be today than they are, even, which is really high?

1228
01:41:41,390 --> 01:41:44,570
So, I don't think there's a simple answer to that one.

1229
01:41:44,570 --> 01:41:49,730
also I want to make sure people understand this is nothing this is something new to Orange County

1230
01:41:49,730 --> 01:41:55,550
it's not new to California again there are 200 cities throughout the state that participate

1231
01:41:55,550 --> 01:42:04,090
in a CCA which OCPA is one of how many other 25 25 throughout the state there are 15 million

1232
01:42:04,090 --> 01:42:11,790
people participating so don't feel like we're gambling with your life here like this is something brand new

1233
01:42:11,790 --> 01:42:13,930
This is new to Orange County.

1234
01:42:15,890 --> 01:42:18,150
You mentioned, what's the reserve balance?

1235
01:42:18,630 --> 01:42:20,370
Currently $45 million.

1236
01:42:20,910 --> 01:42:23,350
So we have a reserve balance of $45 million.

1237
01:42:23,850 --> 01:42:27,890
Miss Johnson mentioned that we used reserves of $45 million.

1238
01:42:28,030 --> 01:42:30,490
And we're going to, I don't know if that rate per is going to have to pay it.

1239
01:42:30,490 --> 01:42:31,330
I look at it at the opposite.

1240
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:35,910
We're walking in and have reserves of $45 million without putting a penny in yet.

1241
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:38,230
So I think we're going to be a big advantage.

1242
01:42:38,330 --> 01:42:39,950
I'll turn that around on you there.

1243
01:42:42,050 --> 01:42:45,870
Hunting to Beach dropped out, why did Hunting to Beach dropped out?

1244
01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:48,290
I don't think we gave a really straight answer on that.

1245
01:42:48,570 --> 01:42:51,130
There's two reasons in my opinion, this opinion.

1246
01:42:51,830 --> 01:42:57,570
One is we had a new council that came in that basically reversed, just about everything

1247
01:42:57,570 --> 01:42:58,810
the old council did.

1248
01:42:59,070 --> 01:43:02,490
So I believe it was a lot of politicalness there.

1249
01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:06,870
The second thing is the old council, I think, made a mistake.

1250
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:15,350
And when they started with OCPA as did Irvine, they started everybody at the 100% rate.

1251
01:43:16,090 --> 01:43:16,650
So, you're right.

1252
01:43:16,990 --> 01:43:24,070
They were way more expensive than Edison, because I shouldn't say way more, but they were paying

1253
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:26,550
everybody at the 100% rate.

1254
01:43:27,010 --> 01:43:28,610
We're not doing that in Fountain Valley.

1255
01:43:28,750 --> 01:43:31,730
We're bringing everybody in at the basic rate.

1256
01:43:32,230 --> 01:43:36,690
So, I would have voted if we had to bring everybody in at the 100% rate.

1257
01:43:36,690 --> 01:43:38,570
I would have owed it no, because that's not right.

1258
01:43:38,850 --> 01:43:40,450
That's not, that's not the choice.

1259
01:43:41,970 --> 01:43:45,250
Less than two blood asked a question about the liability

1260
01:43:45,250 --> 01:43:46,510
to fountain valley.

1261
01:43:47,330 --> 01:43:50,790
So I don't know if Scott Smith is here.

1262
01:43:51,210 --> 01:43:51,650
Oh, there you are.

1263
01:43:51,690 --> 01:43:54,910
I don't know if Scott or Colin or who wants to answer this.

1264
01:43:55,330 --> 01:44:00,070
But if we join this, well, we have joined this JPA.

1265
01:44:00,190 --> 01:44:01,410
We are a member.

1266
01:44:02,970 --> 01:44:07,910
As a member, if OCPA makes the catastrophic

1267
01:44:08,690 --> 01:44:11,890
this something and they get sued and they go out of business,

1268
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:16,290
what is the liability to fountain valley as a JPA member?

1269
01:44:17,610 --> 01:44:22,650
The JPA has a limitation that the individual city members are not liable for the deaths

1270
01:44:22,650 --> 01:44:23,430
of the JPA.

1271
01:44:23,710 --> 01:44:24,230
There's a lawsuit.

1272
01:44:24,830 --> 01:44:27,890
So I hope that answers your question, Mr. Trooplug.

1273
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:34,830
So the liability, the citizens, oh, they couldn't hear you, Colin, I'm getting told.

1274
01:44:35,410 --> 01:44:41,830
So if the GPA has a judgment against it and for whatever reason needs additional funds,

1275
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:46,670
goes into the red, the individual city members are not liable for that.

1276
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:48,050
So the GPA expense.

1277
01:44:48,290 --> 01:44:52,510
Earlier, somebody said the taxpayers' response, the taxpayers are not responsible.

1278
01:44:52,910 --> 01:44:54,330
I just want to make sure that's clear.

1279
01:44:55,710 --> 01:44:59,430
Talk about hunting beach cameras and let's see, let me just one other thing.

1280
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,840
Oh, somebody, somebody I think Mr. Ruff mentioned that, you know, it seems like we're always going along with whatever staff says, I literally meet with staff twice a week. Every single week, at least on average, twice a week. And let me tell you, I don't agree with everything that goes forward. But they get the feedback from us before the meeting, they make adjustments to what they're bringing forward. And in a lot of cases, you know,

1281
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,720
what they originally proposed, the board members advise

1282
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:33,880
and to do something differently.

1283
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,600
So I just want to explain that just a little bit.

1284
01:45:36,940 --> 01:45:40,700
That being said, the bottom line is this.

1285
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,820
I and somebody who wants to pay literally

1286
01:45:46,820 --> 01:45:50,740
a cup of coffee at Starbucks a month, one cup of coffee

1287
01:45:50,740 --> 01:45:55,840
for 100% green energy over regular basic choice.

1288
01:45:56,980 --> 01:45:59,040
You may not want to, but that's my choice.

1289
01:45:59,540 --> 01:46:01,500
And I should be allowed to do that.

1290
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:06,440
I grew up in Fountain Valley, I went to Fountain Valley high school and I remember the days

1291
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:10,640
of we can't go out and do PE this day because of Smog.

1292
01:46:11,300 --> 01:46:14,300
You know, you remember the Smog days there, all the time,

1293
01:46:14,460 --> 01:46:18,720
especially this time of year in Fountain Valley and all over something, California,

1294
01:46:19,940 --> 01:46:22,280
and the environmental agencies may change.

1295
01:46:22,940 --> 01:46:27,140
Well, greenhouse gases, you may not believe this doesn't matter.

1296
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,880
To me, I do, and I think it's an issue.

1297
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:37,020
And if we can do everything that we can, hopefully I have grandchildren one day crossing my fingers, I really hope so.

1298
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:44,240
But I would hope my grandchildren, the greenhouse effects that are being felt right now don't happen.

1299
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:53,940
So all I'm saying, Council Member Constantine, is you don't have the right to tell me that I don't have the choice to go to 100%.

1300
01:46:53,940 --> 01:46:55,780
You went opt out to Edison.

1301
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:57,100
God bless you.

1302
01:46:57,300 --> 01:46:58,340
That's your right.

1303
01:46:58,700 --> 01:47:00,640
Less than we talked about it on email.

1304
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:02,420
You want to stay with Edison?

1305
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:04,980
You have that choice.

1306
01:47:05,500 --> 01:47:07,760
Everybody has the right to choice.

1307
01:47:08,380 --> 01:47:10,200
So there was some people that we didn't get to vote on it.

1308
01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:11,260
Well, yeah, you do.

1309
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:15,260
You're getting to vote on it by opting in or opting out.

1310
01:47:15,340 --> 01:47:16,180
That's your vote.

1311
01:47:16,780 --> 01:47:20,280
And we heard it should take a minute to make that decision.

1312
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:29,380
So with that, I'm glad that we're in OCPA, I'm glad we have choice and I'm glad that we're moving forward.

1313
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,220
Mr. Mayor, one quick statistic.

1314
01:47:31,220 --> 01:47:32,200
Councilwoman Constantine.

1315
01:47:32,420 --> 01:47:33,180
Thank you.

1316
01:47:33,460 --> 01:47:42,120
I googled Lake Forest was a founding member and the City Council members voted there in February 2021

1317
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,160
more than five years ago to exit.

1318
01:47:46,260 --> 01:47:49,860
So that tells you something, this company is not-

1319
01:47:49,860 --> 01:47:53,640
this was not started up last night this they've been in business for more than five years

1320
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:59,980
here and you are going to bring no not really because of the convenience we're being led to

1321
01:47:59,980 --> 01:48:04,480
believe well there's only a couple of cities part of this point of park full of tin and Irvine

1322
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:11,700
and like give it a chance and all this no and that's it thank you. I'm sorry you haven't given a

1323
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:18,460
reason to go. I've given plenty of reasons I had a bad feeling in October 2024 when I voted

1324
01:48:18,460 --> 01:48:25,920
I couldn't specifically say I'd a very I feel nauseous now. I'd a very bad feeling in November of 2024

1325
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:31,080
There's so much wrong with this. Don't even go there. Thank you. Council member

1326
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:37,440
I'm constantly you told me specifically and directly that you were upset that this was not going to go forward in October

1327
01:48:37,440 --> 01:48:42,540
Because you wanted to make this your campaign is no no no no no that's not true

1328
01:48:42,540 --> 01:48:47,840
You're supposed to go there. That's a lie. That is not true. I never said that to you. How dare you lie?

1329
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:54,540
That is not true. I've never made a campaign progress promise. So don't even go there. The reality is

1330
01:48:55,180 --> 01:48:59,180
We should even be having this discussion. There's so many holes in this

1331
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:09,240
Situation. This is not appropriate and don't ever say that I said something. I never ever would consider saying. Thank you. Yeah, dude. I did not

1332
01:49:12,300 --> 01:49:13,500
Okay, so our

1333
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:18,240
45-minute study session has almost gone two hours, but

1334
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:22,000
We appreciate the the time from OCPA for coming out tonight

1335
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:27,780
We appreciate all of the speakers and I think council and buoy you have one more comment

1336
01:49:27,780 --> 01:49:32,060
I'm sure if you okay, you were going to say anything else beside that. Oh, just go wrap it up

1337
01:49:32,060 --> 01:49:35,920
Yeah, I think I think we've got a lot of meeting to go. We've got 19 items tonight

1338
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:39,540
We've got very patient people waiting in the in the FOIA to lobby

1339
01:49:40,140 --> 01:49:41,300
And well, let's

1340
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:46,620
Mr. Mayor. Yes, let's try to wrap up our thoughts on this. We need to have clarification where we're going to go going forward

1341
01:49:46,620 --> 01:49:49,000
I mean, that's the whole purpose of this, if I not correct.

1342
01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:54,960
This was a discussion item, and we're continuing forward because I continue to support the

1343
01:49:54,960 --> 01:50:01,180
efforts, and I think we've heard from all of the council, that this is why we're here discussing

1344
01:50:01,180 --> 01:50:01,680
this.

1345
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:02,040
Okay.

1346
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:03,560
We continue to support it.

1347
01:50:03,940 --> 01:50:06,560
Are there any other questions or comments about the council?

1348
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,000
Yeah.

1349
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:13,920
I just have a quick a few questions for Mr. Westpool, the CEO of OCPA.

1350
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:27,080
Just you mentioned earlier that it costs 13 cents or 14 cents a kilowatt on the generation rate for the basic choice.

1351
01:50:27,540 --> 01:50:39,220
But I think in the future is when you speak about cents, I think you should speak globally, which is actually the total cost is 40, almost 44 cents per kilowatt, not 13 cents.

1352
01:50:39,220 --> 01:50:41,660
And I was doing the math,

1353
01:50:43,810 --> 01:50:57,650
I think if we go by sense, we can't see it looks such a small numbers, but when you do the math, it's about a 12% more than OCP, than SE currently right now.

1354
01:50:58,070 --> 01:51:04,750
That is based on an average of 523 kilowatt per hour. That's an average.

1355
01:51:04,750 --> 01:51:12,250
But for those who consume more, let's say 800 kilowatt with that difference in

1356
01:51:12,250 --> 01:51:20,750
sense, you mentioned. It's almost a 53% increase higher. If you compare with

1357
01:51:20,750 --> 01:51:25,690
SE, so, you know, if you go by percentage, I think the public can see a better

1358
01:51:26,330 --> 01:51:31,750
visualizations of cost difference, rather than sense. I think it's kind of misleading on that aspect.

1359
01:51:33,270 --> 01:51:40,070
I want to know, you mentioned, or my colleague mentioned, there's a $45 million reserve.

1360
01:51:41,590 --> 01:51:42,810
And he's talking about suit liability.

1361
01:51:44,610 --> 01:51:56,790
My question is, if one of the city currently on there goes bankrupt, what's going to happen to the existing city?

1362
01:51:57,570 --> 01:52:04,070
I'm sorry the question is if one of our member agencies goes bankrupt right like one of the city because we've been hearing

1363
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:06,090
Fullerton is you know on the financial

1364
01:52:08,170 --> 01:52:13,950
Concern on you know on the operations so if they go bankrupt what's gonna happen to other city?

1365
01:52:14,030 --> 01:52:16,750
Are they gonna pick up the bills or the seat of bankrupt? What's gonna happen?

1366
01:52:18,330 --> 01:52:22,810
So as your attorney said in terms of of your city's liability

1367
01:52:22,810 --> 01:52:24,290
there is no liability

1368
01:52:25,610 --> 01:52:27,090
for Fountain Valley.

1369
01:52:32,030 --> 01:52:34,430
I'm not sure that was the question that the council member was asking.

1370
01:52:35,070 --> 01:52:36,350
I'm not sure that I understand the question.

1371
01:52:36,590 --> 01:52:38,690
If the city of Floor 10 goes bankrupt.

1372
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:43,210
It sounds like there's one less person putting into the pot if there's exactly what it needs to go into the pot.

1373
01:52:43,810 --> 01:52:45,610
All right, but in terms of any liabilities,

1374
01:52:46,110 --> 01:52:52,890
your city would not be liable for anything if that's related to or associated with a bankrupt

1375
01:52:53,370 --> 01:52:54,830
bankruptcy for another city.

1376
01:52:54,830 --> 01:52:59,090
In terms of hypothetically, if another city went bankrupt,

1377
01:52:59,690 --> 01:53:01,750
how would that change the cost calculation?

1378
01:53:03,110 --> 01:53:05,330
All I could say is it would change the cost calculation,

1379
01:53:05,330 --> 01:53:06,910
but we'd have to take a look at that.

1380
01:53:07,850 --> 01:53:12,970
We would also, our revenue requirement would go down.

1381
01:53:12,990 --> 01:53:16,370
So if I'm not purchasing energy for that number agency,

1382
01:53:16,410 --> 01:53:17,510
I'm certainly not.

1383
01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:19,450
Yeah, hold on a sec.

1384
01:53:19,710 --> 01:53:23,610
So with full of tin, I mean, this is quite the stretch.

1385
01:53:23,610 --> 01:53:29,970
Filerton goes bankrupt, their residents still need electricity, and they're still buying electricity.

1386
01:53:30,170 --> 01:53:33,070
It has nothing to do with the city going bankrupt.

1387
01:53:33,590 --> 01:53:39,730
Now, the city themselves may not be able to pay their portion of that city's power bill.

1388
01:53:40,870 --> 01:53:42,330
So, if does that what you're asking?

1389
01:53:42,370 --> 01:53:48,970
Because the residents still have to pay their bill if Filerton goes bankrupt, which is not going to happen.

1390
01:53:49,870 --> 01:53:54,490
Well, if the city's going to go bankrupt, that's what I'm trying to say, how is that going

1391
01:53:54,490 --> 01:53:58,110
to affect those who aren't bored with OCP? And how is that going to affect you?

1392
01:53:58,110 --> 01:53:59,250
It won't change anything.

1393
01:53:59,530 --> 01:54:02,990
Just if that is, if I, I, I, I, I, I found Valley went bankrupt.

1394
01:54:03,070 --> 01:54:05,690
Do you think that I have to stop paying my electric bill?

1395
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:07,050
Yeah.

1396
01:54:07,070 --> 01:54:09,750
I can't only want that respond from OCP.

1397
01:54:09,850 --> 01:54:11,610
I would be happy to look into it for you.

1398
01:54:11,630 --> 01:54:14,670
It's a hypothetical that we've not thought about, but it'd be happy to look at it.

1399
01:54:14,670 --> 01:54:18,490
It doesn't appear that it would impact anything that we're talking about today.

1400
01:54:18,490 --> 01:54:23,050
but I'd be happy to look into that. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Joe. To the German earlier,

1401
01:54:23,610 --> 01:54:31,030
as a questions, in terms of updating and opt-out, what there's rules is, it's a governance

1402
01:54:31,030 --> 01:54:38,330
statute, public duty, section three, six, six point two. So once the city decides to join OCPA,

1403
01:54:38,530 --> 01:54:45,810
we're on MacLeod. All of the residents are on MacLeod in it. We just can't opt-out. It is up to

1404
01:54:45,810 --> 01:54:50,970
about opt-out, means because of that rule. Okay, I just want to have a clarification on that.

1405
01:54:52,630 --> 01:54:56,870
Someone, you know, we talked about competitions and predictability.

1406
01:54:57,950 --> 01:55:07,170
And I agree that change and choice is good. But if the price is higher than SE, then in my opinion,

1407
01:55:07,330 --> 01:55:13,310
predictability is less important. And two, I mean, a lot of people have heard today, it's very complicated.

1408
01:55:13,310 --> 01:55:19,930
But at the end of the day, if my bill is higher than SE, then I have an issue with that.

1409
01:55:20,010 --> 01:55:26,410
And that's why last time I vote based on your previous model, which is I think you call the index model.

1410
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:36,470
That I'm okay because I was looked at or a reasonable payload in SE, but your current model, I'm not sure I'm okay with that model.

1411
01:55:37,390 --> 01:55:42,290
I understand that you talk about the particularity, I understand that in the average moment.

1412
01:55:42,290 --> 01:55:44,290
Yeah, I did end the day.

1413
01:55:45,170 --> 01:55:49,870
If wherever AC goes up or lower, and we stoop, lower, is still lower.

1414
01:55:50,350 --> 01:55:50,810
That's the way to look.

1415
01:55:50,810 --> 01:55:51,130
Exactly.

1416
01:55:51,290 --> 01:55:54,390
I agree with you on this.

1417
01:55:54,870 --> 01:56:00,310
And as the representative for the city of Fountain Valley, when we come to setting our rates

1418
01:56:00,310 --> 01:56:04,170
for next year, I will be pushing very hard for the index rate again.

1419
01:56:04,790 --> 01:56:06,450
Okay, that's all I have to say for now.

1420
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,020
May if I can wrap it up, the commissations.

1421
01:56:11,020 --> 01:56:15,320
So the CityFound Valley is currently part of the OCPA.

1422
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:17,680
We are a member of OCPA.

1423
01:56:18,900 --> 01:56:24,760
And so the understanding right now is that it will go live

1424
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,780
in April of 2027.

1425
01:56:28,660 --> 01:56:32,880
There will be 60 days in advance for any those

1426
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:39,280
that would like to opt out when we are part of OCPA transition.

1427
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:49,700
and then they would notify 60 day before, 30 days before, and then there's also a 60 day

1428
01:56:49,700 --> 01:56:57,500
potentially window after April 1st, and so if found value resident do want to say with

1429
01:56:57,500 --> 01:57:06,720
SE, you do have that choice to say, or you can go with OCPA once it's live on April 1st

1430
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:14,620
of 2027. There will be a lot of community outreach, both from OCPA and also from staff from

1431
01:57:14,620 --> 01:57:22,560
the City of Mountain Valley to ensure that the resident is aware of the transition and so we will

1432
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:29,300
update you as we progress along. So it goes live on April Fool's Day, right?

1433
01:57:30,940 --> 01:57:37,660
Councilman Boy, I'm happy to hear that you said that you will fight on the next cycle.

1434
01:57:37,780 --> 01:57:42,020
Can you explain on this particular cycle, why you did not fight for that index?

1435
01:57:45,730 --> 01:57:58,770
For a couple of reasons, based on the financial state of OCPA for the year, A, B was, I was very much supportive of making sure that the

1436
01:57:58,770 --> 01:58:05,330
2025 rate did not increase that it stayed steady for the year, so I was in favor of that as well.

1437
01:58:05,850 --> 01:58:11,710
And three, the other four board members were definitely in favor of this and their customers,

1438
01:58:12,210 --> 01:58:15,710
are their residents, were customers, and hours this year are not.

1439
01:58:16,670 --> 01:58:21,330
So, to me, to try to override the other council members, I didn't think it would be fair.

1440
01:58:22,030 --> 01:58:27,370
But for next year, I am very confident we're going to have an index rate again.

1441
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:38,980
Okay any other comments? Okay, thanks. We're done. Thank you so much. Oh, yeah,

1442
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,280
all right, we're now going. Yes

1443
01:58:44,260 --> 01:58:49,060
You got to restart soon. Okay, we're gonna take up two minute recess

1444
02:08:37,170 --> 02:08:37,930
723,

1445
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:44,960
start with the invocation. If you could please rise, welcome John Borek.

1446
02:08:54,860 --> 02:09:00,200
City Council. Truly my pleasure to be able to offer a brief word of prayers we begin the meeting.

1447
02:09:01,620 --> 02:09:09,440
Heavenly Father, as we gather together this evening, we ask your spirit of unity to be present among us in the city council chambers.

1448
02:09:10,260 --> 02:09:16,460
Help us to put aside any personal agendas or differences and work together in harmony toward our common goal.

1449
02:09:16,460 --> 02:09:18,960
doing what is best for the City of Fountain Valley.

1450
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:21,920
In Psalm 133 it states,

1451
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:26,720
behold how good and pleasant it is when brothers and sisters dwell in unity.

1452
02:09:27,420 --> 02:09:29,700
Let this be our desire as we engage in discussions

1453
02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:32,880
and make important decisions that impact our community.

1454
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:38,360
Lord, we give thanks to you tonight for your humble servants, our mayor, our city manager,

1455
02:09:38,820 --> 02:09:41,360
our city staff, and our city council members.

1456
02:09:42,080 --> 02:09:45,740
Help give them guidance and wisdom as they discuss the issues on tonight's agenda.

1457
02:09:45,740 --> 02:09:56,020
May our words this evening be filled with love and respect for one another and may our actions reflect the unity we strive for in your holy name we pray. Amen.

1458
02:09:56,020 --> 02:09:59,760
Thank you, John. Next we'll be our salute to the flag.

1459
02:10:01,220 --> 02:10:05,220
Councilwoman Kim Ponsente. Please join me in the salute to the flag.

1460
02:10:05,940 --> 02:10:06,980
Ready begin.

1461
02:10:18,420 --> 02:10:18,900
Thank

1462
02:10:22,450 --> 02:10:24,250
you very much.

1463
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:31,060
Next is City Council's successor agency housing authority roll call.

1464
02:10:31,300 --> 02:10:32,180
Council member Booy.

1465
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:32,660
Yeah.

1466
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:33,640
Council member Constantine.

1467
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:33,840
Yeah.

1468
02:10:34,060 --> 02:10:35,340
Council member Grandis here.

1469
02:10:35,540 --> 02:10:36,560
Vice Mayor Vice Chair Harper.

1470
02:10:37,060 --> 02:10:37,160
Here.

1471
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:38,460
Mayor Chair Coneen.

1472
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:39,580
All members are present.

1473
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:40,680
Thank you.

1474
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:43,400
Are there any supplemental communications?

1475
02:10:44,180 --> 02:10:45,160
We do have some.

1476
02:10:45,260 --> 02:10:47,960
They have been provided to the City Council and to members of the public.

1477
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:52,160
And are there any items to report out of closed session?

1478
02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:54,320
There are Mr. Mayor on item number two.

1479
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:58,060
There's a vote 5-0 to allow the City Attorney to commence the

1480
02:10:58,060 --> 02:11:00,260
Bateman process on items 1 through 4.

1481
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:01,300
There's no report of election.

1482
02:11:03,100 --> 02:11:03,200
Okay.

1483
02:11:03,380 --> 02:11:03,560
Thank you.

1484
02:11:03,660 --> 02:11:06,460
Next we'll move into City Manager update.

1485
02:11:07,700 --> 02:11:23,680
Yes, thank you Mayor and City Council wanted to inform the public that City Hall will be closed on Thursday from 3 to 6 p.m. for employees day at some of us, the mayor will go into a little bit details about the hour and hour of some of us.

1486
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:33,480
I also want to introduce Keiko Keoki, a guest from Heckenman City, from Japan, Tamwin,

1487
02:11:33,700 --> 02:11:39,720
a family resident, and a board member of the housing and community development advisory board,

1488
02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:46,180
and Frank Ikuchi, president of the Hunting Beach sister city program.

1489
02:11:47,140 --> 02:11:56,200
Kiko is home staying with Tam Wind Family and my family through June 25th to experience fountain

1490
02:11:56,200 --> 02:12:02,120
valley and fountain valley some of us. We have a sister city advisory committee and have been

1491
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:10,680
in communication with Pekken and City Mayor Kouiki for the past few months. The goal is to establish

1492
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:16,100
a sister city relationship between the two communities ideally in 2027.

1493
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:22,660
We are in the phase of a relationship building to learn about each other's communities.

1494
02:12:23,400 --> 02:12:30,860
Heckerman City has a population of 72,864 with 29,139 households.

1495
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:35,280
The city is approximately 14 square miles.

1496
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:44,680
Other communities advisory is evaluating our Sakura city and Fukushima, our first mayor,

1497
02:12:45,020 --> 02:12:46,160
Kano's hometown.

1498
02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:56,740
Kiko, do you want to go ahead and say hi and tell your age and what you like so far on your trip?

1499
02:12:58,310 --> 02:13:01,850
My name is Kiko. I'm 10 in.

1500
02:13:04,050 --> 02:13:06,650
I'm 10 in one. Yes or not.

1501
02:13:09,470 --> 02:13:10,430
I think

1502
02:13:10,430 --> 02:13:15,430
Hunting Barrett is around the for place. We are at the nature and I'm

1503
02:13:15,430 --> 02:13:18,890
enjoying my time here. Thank you.

1504
02:13:23,370 --> 02:13:25,730
Then I believe Kiko have some

1505
02:13:25,730 --> 02:13:29,050
presents gifts for the City Council.

1506
02:13:29,670 --> 02:13:34,590
So if you want to share with us and then Mr. Tamwin and Mr. Frank,

1507
02:13:34,710 --> 02:13:37,810
if you would like to add a comment, you'll welcome to do that too.

1508
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:17,520
Okay, I'll just give a free speaker first. Hi, my name is Tamwin. I'm honored to serve as host family for

1509
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:33,400
Kiko. It's been amazing for my family to have our guest from Japan. We look forward to visiting her. Her family as well. I know her, her mom's a mayor and she's been such a great ambassador for Japan and enjoying everything from in and out and fall here in Fountain Valley.

1510
02:15:39,380 --> 02:15:44,780
My name is Frank Iguchi, I'm a president of Huntington Beach Sister City Association.

1511
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:54,860
We have programs like student exchange and adult delegation exchange with our sister

1512
02:15:54,860 --> 02:16:03,380
city, in Japan, which is Anjo, it happens to be right next to Hikunan City, you know,

1513
02:16:03,380 --> 02:16:09,540
goes from. So I'm very happy that Fante Valley is

1514
02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:15,860
considering a sister city in Japan because I see a lot of potential

1515
02:16:15,860 --> 02:16:20,400
collaborations with Huntington Beach and Fante Valley.

1516
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:26,100
As well as hiking on the city right next to our sister city,

1517
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:30,280
Angel, south of Nagoya. So I'm very happy

1518
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:33,300
throughout the valley is considering the system in the future.

1519
02:16:33,640 --> 02:16:35,480
Hopefully you would choose Hitchinana.

1520
02:16:36,440 --> 02:16:36,660
After.

1521
02:16:37,500 --> 02:16:38,400
Thank you very much.

1522
02:16:38,880 --> 02:16:39,320
Thank you.

1523
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:49,240
Okay, for the mayor's updates,

1524
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:57,780
something California Edison SE will be replacing their vault that is located near the intersection of Euclid Street and Warner Avenue.

1525
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:03,200
SE will notify residents in the adjacent residential quadrants for upcoming power outages,

1526
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:05,560
needed to facilitate completion of the work.

1527
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:12,460
Construction began on June 1st, 2026, and is tentatively scheduled to be completed by the end of July, 2026.

1528
02:17:12,980 --> 02:17:20,980
Due to traffic control, expect delays when traveling around, traveling eastbound on Warner Avenue, between Ward Street and Euclid Street.

1529
02:17:21,180 --> 02:17:24,860
Detour signs and message boards will be posted for the duration of the work.

1530
02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:28,180
We thank everyone for your patience during the construction period.

1531
02:17:29,020 --> 02:17:40,980
Like a PIA and Ellis playgrounds will be closed for maintenance, the playgrounds at those two parks will be closed for maintenance beginning Monday, June 15, 20, 26 at 7am.

1532
02:17:40,980 --> 02:17:47,700
Temporary Fencing will be installed to prevent access to the rover-play surface during the maintenance activities.

1533
02:17:48,460 --> 02:17:52,780
The playground is scheduled to reopen on Friday June 19th at 5 p.m.

1534
02:17:53,180 --> 02:18:01,220
And please feel free to call civil 1, 4, 5, 9, 3, 4, 6, 1, 2, if you have any questions regarding the closures or maintenance being performed.

1535
02:18:01,220 --> 02:18:08,260
Senior Expo, join us Wednesday, June 17th, that's tomorrow at the Center at Founder's

1536
02:18:08,260 --> 02:18:14,760
Village, it's on Bouchard Street from 9.30 a.m. to 12 p.m. to check out the resources offered

1537
02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:19,880
for today's seniors. Discover a variety of vendor booths, health screenings, and vital

1538
02:18:19,880 --> 02:18:24,560
information. There will be door prizes, opportunity drawings, giveaways, music, and free

1539
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:26,980
food. Do I say free food?

1540
02:18:27,560 --> 02:18:33,360
Alright, don't miss out on the information that can help you be healthy, enjoy life, and plan for the future.

1541
02:18:34,280 --> 02:18:43,300
Thank you to our big Kahuna sponsors, Memorial Care, Caloptima Health and Surrents' Clinical Research.

1542
02:18:44,260 --> 02:18:49,340
Summer Fest, June 18th, the 21st.

1543
02:18:49,340 --> 02:18:57,660
Join us Thursday, June 18th through Sunday, June 21st for the highly anticipated event of summer, FV Summerfest.

1544
02:18:57,780 --> 02:19:08,780
Come out and enjoy live music, all weekend long, carnival rides and games, a beer and wine garden, food and retail vendors and much more admission is $5.

1545
02:19:08,780 --> 02:19:17,120
Special perks at the park all weekend long will include on Thursday a $3 ride night and

1546
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:25,500
$22 on site unlimited ride wristbands on Friday the 19th it's $5 beer and why night along with the country kickback

1547
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:28,220
On Saturday the 20th

1548
02:19:28,780 --> 02:19:35,840
Comes with the Hyundai firework show and then on Sunday. Let's celebrate dad on father's day

1549
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:42,540
From information or to purchase your tickets, visit summerfestfv.com, and that concludes my

1550
02:19:42,540 --> 02:19:43,260
measures update.

1551
02:19:45,710 --> 02:19:45,910
Okay.

1552
02:19:46,330 --> 02:19:54,070
Next, we've actually moved the council member items for future consideration up to the front

1553
02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:58,170
part of the meeting, and so now I'm going to open it up for items for future consideration.

1554
02:19:59,030 --> 02:20:00,610
Are there any members who have any items?

1555
02:20:01,830 --> 02:20:02,470
I have one.

1556
02:20:02,970 --> 02:20:04,010
Councilwoman Constantine.

1557
02:20:04,570 --> 02:20:12,330
Well, after what we just heard in the study session, I proposed that the City of Fountain Valley

1558
02:20:12,330 --> 02:20:18,450
seeks to get us out of that contract, cancel the contract with OCPA, which is the Orange County

1559
02:20:18,450 --> 02:20:19,270
Power Authority.

1560
02:20:21,440 --> 02:20:22,340
That's my thought.

1561
02:20:27,020 --> 02:20:27,520
I have a comment.

1562
02:20:28,300 --> 02:20:28,740
Nice to meet you.

1563
02:20:29,380 --> 02:20:29,620
Nice to meet you.

1564
02:20:29,620 --> 02:20:34,600
I'm not going to second the motion, but I do think that we should

1565
02:20:38,890 --> 02:20:42,810
maybe bring it up, but I think

1566
02:20:42,810 --> 02:20:52,150
we should determine a timeline a calendar, like if we were going to withdraw will be the appropriate date,

1567
02:20:52,510 --> 02:21:03,590
but at this time I will not second that motion. I do think if we can get the indexed rate, then I think I'm good with it next.

1568
02:21:05,030 --> 02:21:06,270
That's unbelievable.

1569
02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:12,910
So, Council, Vice Mayor Harper, are you proposing that as an item of future situation?

1570
02:21:14,890 --> 02:21:25,070
No, no, I'm just, I'm just saying, I think we should know what the calendar is for, you know, with drawing if that's something we in the future decide.

1571
02:21:25,510 --> 02:21:29,530
Is it December 31st? Is it October 1st?

1572
02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:30,590
So we have that data.

1573
02:21:30,590 --> 02:21:35,970
As a represent, I'll commit to get that for you and present it as part of AB-1234 in the future.

1574
02:21:37,870 --> 02:21:38,990
Any other items for consideration?

1575
02:21:40,690 --> 02:21:42,330
All right, let's move into presentations.

1576
02:21:43,050 --> 02:21:47,290
First, we're going to have recognition of the Fountain Valley High School Leo Club,

1577
02:21:47,850 --> 02:21:52,470
for the recognition as Club of the Year, are the Leo Club members in the house?

1578
02:21:53,150 --> 02:21:54,170
All right, all right.

1579
02:21:55,050 --> 02:21:56,430
So let me read a little bit of background.

1580
02:21:57,210 --> 02:21:57,370
Welcome.

1581
02:21:58,740 --> 02:22:02,160
So, Family Leo's don't just participate, they lead.

1582
02:22:02,700 --> 02:22:09,340
Being named District 4L4 Club of the Year for 2025-2026 is not simply an award, it is a

1583
02:22:09,340 --> 02:22:13,920
powerful reflection of their passion, service, and extraordinary commitment to the communities

1584
02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:14,620
they serve.

1585
02:22:15,180 --> 02:22:21,620
This honor carries special significance as District 4L4 represents a wide and diverse region,

1586
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:26,640
spanning Orange County, parts of Los Angeles County and parts of San Bernardino County,

1587
02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:35,480
To be recognized among so many outstanding clubs is a true testament to the dedication and impact of every member of the Fountain Valley Leo Club.

1588
02:22:36,440 --> 02:22:40,240
This past year, the Fountain Valley Leo's demonstrated what it means to serve with purpose.

1589
02:22:40,900 --> 02:22:49,480
They partnered with the City of Fountain Valley to bring joy to local families by preparing thousands of plastic eggs for the Mile Square Park Easter Egg Hunt.

1590
02:22:49,820 --> 02:22:55,120
They celebrated unity and culture by actively participating in the Fountain Valley High School Culture Fest.

1591
02:22:55,120 --> 02:22:58,120
Their impact extended far beyond single events.

1592
02:22:58,500 --> 02:23:03,100
In partnership with the Orange County, Korean-American Lions Club, they helped create over

1593
02:23:03,100 --> 02:23:08,840
15,000 meals, directly supporting individuals and families facing food insecurity.

1594
02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:13,800
They also showed their commitment to environmental responsibility by taking part in multiple

1595
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:16,980
beach cleanups, helping preserve the beauty of our coastline.

1596
02:23:17,940 --> 02:23:21,760
Through their strong collaboration with the Huntington Beach Hostline Club, they consistently

1597
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:25,760
demonstrated leadership and reliability where they're cooking and serving at the city

1598
02:23:25,760 --> 02:23:31,440
camp out, supporting the Santa, Santa breakfast, or helping run the annual crab fest

1599
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:36,980
fundraiser, which really sets the fat valley Leo's a part, however, is their dedication beyond

1600
02:23:36,980 --> 02:23:42,900
the local level. At the district level, they helped bring joy to families through the Ronald MacDonald

1601
02:23:42,900 --> 02:23:48,600
House trunk or treat and provided comfort through baking days for families in need. They supported

1602
02:23:48,600 --> 02:23:54,580
meaningful causes, including pediatric cancer fundraising through events like the Leo Roller

1603
02:23:54,580 --> 02:23:59,920
Skating for a cause. At the state level, they continue to grow as leaders, attending the

1604
02:23:59,920 --> 02:24:05,080
California Lions Convention, participating in the walk for a cause, leadership seminars and

1605
02:24:05,080 --> 02:24:09,380
completing first aid training to better serve their communities in the future. The Fountain Valley

1606
02:24:09,380 --> 02:24:15,420
Leo Club represents the very best of what you service can be, a club that doesn't just attend events,

1607
02:24:15,420 --> 02:24:22,480
But leads them a club that doesn't just volunteer, but creates meaningful impact a club that doesn't just grow

1608
02:24:22,480 --> 02:24:24,380
But inspires others to grow alongside them

1609
02:24:24,940 --> 02:24:32,060
So this recognition is not only about what they have accomplished it is about how they have accomplished it with heart

1610
02:24:32,060 --> 02:24:36,520
With teamwork and with an unwavering commitment to serving others

1611
02:24:36,520 --> 02:24:44,060
Please join us in honoring the Fountain Valley Leo Club truly deserving of the title club of the year and so I would like to

1612
02:24:44,060 --> 02:24:44,400
Yes.

1613
02:24:47,700 --> 02:24:53,320
So if I could bring up Poen the win to come up and accept, okay.

1614
02:25:10,660 --> 02:25:13,260
So on behalf of the city of

1615
02:25:13,260 --> 02:25:21,460
Fountain Valley, we want to recognize the Fountain Valley High School Leo Club for 2025-2026 district

1616
02:25:21,460 --> 02:25:24,240
4L4 club of the year. Congratulations.

1617
02:25:34,840 --> 02:25:39,380
And on behalf of our supervisor for district 1, Janet Win,

1618
02:25:39,380 --> 02:25:45,680
She also wishes to present the Certificate of Recognition to the Fountain Valley High School Leo Club

1619
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:46,720
Congratulations.

1620
02:25:49,390 --> 02:25:51,470
But wait, there's more.

1621
02:25:54,290 --> 02:26:02,490
You've also been recognized by the California Assembly, our local Assemblyman Treetah from the 70th District.

1622
02:26:03,230 --> 02:26:06,990
This is a very nice certificate of recognition, much bigger.

1623
02:26:07,730 --> 02:26:09,890
Okay, that's not to be out done.

1624
02:26:10,410 --> 02:26:14,950
Bat Valley High School Leo Club being named as the club of the year and dedication to serving

1625
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:16,810
the community, congratulations.

1626
02:26:36,070 --> 02:26:37,410
Council, do you want to take a stretch?

1627
02:26:37,870 --> 02:26:38,310
Come on down.

1628
02:26:38,930 --> 02:26:40,870
All right.

1629
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:25,390
Okay, next we're going to have a recap of the annual I.C.

1630
02:27:25,390 --> 02:27:31,710
the SEC conference, presentation by Assistant Planner Ron Vargas and Management Analyst Victor

1631
02:27:31,710 --> 02:27:32,670
Vittor Montes.

1632
02:27:40,450 --> 02:27:40,650
Welcome.

1633
02:27:49,740 --> 02:27:54,200
Good evening, Mayor Canina and on Will City Council today we're going to be providing an update

1634
02:27:54,200 --> 02:28:00,940
on the Economic Development Action Plan implementation and also providing an update or a recap

1635
02:28:00,940 --> 02:28:06,580
of the Innovating Commerce, Serving Communities, ICSC, Vegas Conference that we recently

1636
02:28:06,580 --> 02:28:07,300
attended.

1637
02:28:11,180 --> 02:28:17,240
First of all, a little quick timeline here as far as how we got where we're at right now.

1638
02:28:17,780 --> 02:28:25,400
The main thing here to point out is where the EDAP was originally adopted in November 2023.

1639
02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:30,360
So we're quickly coming up to three years since we adopted the plan.

1640
02:28:33,140 --> 02:28:36,680
The way the plan is organized, there's several focus areas.

1641
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:41,960
and then there's action items related to those focus areas.

1642
02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:45,680
So these are some highlights for 25, 26,

1643
02:28:46,780 --> 02:28:50,260
including an action item of creating a hotel and restaurant guide.

1644
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:55,600
So we have a draft put together that we've been going with to the

1645
02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:58,360
semester and areas and we've been, so we have a draft.

1646
02:28:58,500 --> 02:29:02,240
We think we're pretty close to kind of getting that finalized.

1647
02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:11,400
We did a comprehensive update to the Shopping Center Retail Guide, which we added hotels in there, so

1648
02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:16,540
that was recently done. We're looking probably to do another update pretty soon on that too.

1649
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:22,380
Action item working with hotels for package deals, so we've worked with, we talked to the

1650
02:29:22,380 --> 02:29:28,060
and they here is they both agreed to provide a discount code so that's going to be

1651
02:29:28,060 --> 02:29:34,700
included in the hotel guide here once we get that all wrapped up.

1652
02:29:34,700 --> 02:29:41,040
A focus area here is for city hauling gaugements a couple action items develop

1653
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:46,420
be toolkit for businesses of available programs like resources for businesses.

1654
02:29:47,340 --> 02:29:51,660
So we did a fountain valley small business conference we held that in February this year

1655
02:29:51,660 --> 02:29:56,900
and it was attended by a Sydney Flonterpreneurs who worked with SBDC on that, they provide

1656
02:29:56,900 --> 02:29:59,860
the speaker to provide the facility and also the chamber.

1657
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,020
So we came to help us get the word out. Then we had a resource fair where there was a bunch of

1658
02:30:05,020 --> 02:30:11,020
business resources available for all the attendees. We've been from we've been more actively promoting

1659
02:30:12,020 --> 02:30:18,840
SBDC and score business learning opportunities on city of social media. So if you guys had been seeing those, but we've been trying to get those out,

1660
02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:26,920
make sure it's going out to our residents. For action item, develop a strategic foreign direct investment plan.

1661
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:34,060
One thing we did this year is we attended the Select LA Conference, which is put on by the LA EDC.

1662
02:30:34,960 --> 02:30:42,440
So it's kind of one day conference for trade, cultural exchange, we were able to meet folks from a couple of different consulates.

1663
02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:48,220
And there may also be more FDI opportunities through the Orange County Business Council.

1664
02:30:48,440 --> 02:30:53,700
They now have FDI committees, so we're going to start looking to maybe get involved with them on that.

1665
02:30:56,610 --> 02:30:58,770
Continuing on City Hall engagement,

1666
02:30:59,350 --> 02:31:00,930
Strington Social Media presents.

1667
02:31:01,750 --> 02:31:03,910
So this year we've done several mayors messages

1668
02:31:03,910 --> 02:31:09,890
working with PCTA and filmed a couple of social media clips

1669
02:31:09,890 --> 02:31:12,630
that featured fountain valley businesses.

1670
02:31:13,550 --> 02:31:17,090
And that's a couple of lists of the businesses

1671
02:31:17,090 --> 02:31:19,290
that we included this year.

1672
02:31:20,970 --> 02:31:22,990
Continuing on City Hall engagement,

1673
02:31:22,990 --> 02:31:28,730
This featuring Azure 9 featuring new business successes in the openings, so we're actively

1674
02:31:29,630 --> 02:31:34,090
trying to be consistent in highlighting new businesses in the Fountain Valley newsletters,

1675
02:31:35,050 --> 02:31:40,330
so we make sure we're conscious of that, and we've had a couple of grand openings this year,

1676
02:31:40,890 --> 02:31:45,950
actively participate in industry organizations and community engagement, so we've been working

1677
02:31:45,950 --> 02:31:47,290
closely with the chamber.

1678
02:31:47,770 --> 02:31:52,630
We worked on several initiatives including the Fountain Valley Small Business Conference, and

1679
02:31:52,630 --> 02:31:57,990
regularly attend their board meetings. So we just try and get a collaboration with the chamber there.

1680
02:32:02,010 --> 02:32:07,270
So focus area here is restaurant and nightlife. So explore the possibility, actually I'm

1681
02:32:07,270 --> 02:32:11,010
going to explain the possibility of a night market. So we had a night market that we started

1682
02:32:11,010 --> 02:32:19,090
over at the fountain full, 25 ran through most of the year there. Fountain ball has some new

1683
02:32:19,090 --> 02:32:22,530
leagues coming in. So it's like we're not going to be able to continue it there, but we're looking

1684
02:32:22,530 --> 02:32:28,270
for the vendor wants to come back and we want them to come back so we're starting to look

1685
02:32:28,270 --> 02:32:32,390
and trying to identify a permanent location for them so we're continuing to work on the

1686
02:32:32,390 --> 02:32:33,750
night market.

1687
02:32:35,980 --> 02:32:39,640
Other economic development activities conduct a survey a small business community

1688
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:47,820
so we collaborated with the SPDC and then the chamber. SPDC does an annual small business survey

1689
02:32:47,820 --> 02:32:52,480
And they welcome cities to come on board to help promote it.

1690
02:32:53,320 --> 02:32:59,660
So we kind of took them up on that offer and we want to make sure we got a good response from our found value businesses.

1691
02:32:59,940 --> 02:33:03,820
So their survey included orange, Riverside, Semberneo counties.

1692
02:33:03,940 --> 02:33:09,980
They had about 1200 responses and they received three two responses from found value businesses.

1693
02:33:13,340 --> 02:33:15,180
This is focus area shopping centers.

1694
02:33:15,520 --> 02:33:18,680
So this is action item is to participate in trade shows.

1695
02:33:18,680 --> 02:33:39,300
So, this is the ICSC, which is 10 of the, well, Western Conference in Palm Springs, and the ICSC Las Vegas Conference, May of this year, which we take our city booth there, and so that kind of leads us into a recap of the ICSC event.

1696
02:33:39,300 --> 02:33:52,420
So, who do we meet with the very real estate representatives, developers, retailers, representatives, some of our current centers and then consultants also?

1697
02:33:53,560 --> 02:34:03,300
So, it's a one day one and a half day pretty much is what it kind of comes out to and then there's a half day where we kind of bring everything down and close up shop there.

1698
02:34:04,820 --> 02:34:11,440
So, a couple of major takeaways from ICSC this year, so you mark a, they represent

1699
02:34:11,440 --> 02:34:14,180
several restaurants that want to be in fountain valley,

1700
02:34:16,200 --> 02:34:18,040
so that our current retail vacancy

1701
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:25,200
rate at 0%, so 0.7% is what we just checked right now, it's not a whole lot out there,

1702
02:34:25,500 --> 02:34:32,760
but we do know restaurants want to come to the city. Real TN come, who owns the center corner

1703
02:34:32,760 --> 02:34:37,560
with the Curacao, the advice that they extended their lease.

1704
02:34:37,660 --> 02:34:38,640
So they're going to be there.

1705
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:42,980
Looks like for the foreseeable future that we talked about,

1706
02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:46,560
maybe exploring the addition of potential restaurant

1707
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:48,080
pads in their parking area.

1708
02:34:48,220 --> 02:34:52,060
So that might be some options as there.

1709
02:34:52,220 --> 02:34:53,760
Housing developers, still interesting,

1710
02:34:53,880 --> 02:34:56,320
coming to Fountain Valley, but there's limited opportunities

1711
02:34:56,320 --> 02:34:57,500
right now.

1712
02:34:58,120 --> 02:35:01,500
And we talked with representatives of the former Chase Building

1713
02:35:01,500 --> 02:35:07,580
on Garfield that Magnolia, Chase is still playing on that building and their lease is going

1714
02:35:07,580 --> 02:35:14,440
to continue going to 2033. So they're actively marketing it but that's going to be a challenging

1715
02:35:14,440 --> 02:35:21,460
site for is eventually getting something there. It's our advisors, they provide an update on the

1716
02:35:21,460 --> 02:35:26,960
Mimi's Cafe so it's unknown if Mimi's going to renew their lease so they're exploring options

1717
02:35:26,960 --> 02:35:34,960
And we've been talking about them, about potential helping them with the potential options

1718
02:35:34,960 --> 02:35:37,080
and city questions that they may have.

1719
02:35:40,670 --> 02:35:45,210
So earlier we talked about we're coming up soon under a three year of our current economic

1720
02:35:45,210 --> 02:35:46,310
development action plan.

1721
02:35:46,830 --> 02:35:51,310
So we have kind of we're starting looking to kind of the next steps and so we have kind of

1722
02:35:51,310 --> 02:35:53,190
of a timeline to do possibly an update.

1723
02:35:53,190 --> 02:36:00,410
So, we're looking at maybe a total of November doing an RFP awarding agreement in December 26th

1724
02:36:00,410 --> 02:36:07,670
and then getting the consultants started in the gathering information phase January 27th

1725
02:36:07,670 --> 02:36:12,490
and then hopefully have a new EDAP adopted by June 2027.

1726
02:36:12,870 --> 02:36:19,110
So, we're starting a couple of consultants at ICSE and we kind of started talking about opportunities

1727
02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:20,150
there for that.

1728
02:36:22,950 --> 02:36:27,910
kind of as we've been implementing this current one, we kind of talked about where some kind

1729
02:36:27,910 --> 02:36:33,550
of focusaries and challenges that maybe we'll address in the new EDAP and then we're talking

1730
02:36:33,550 --> 02:36:38,550
about maybe looking at the crossing specific plan again, taking another look at that, you

1731
02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:46,830
know, there's tight markets for retail, industrial and office, so kind of how can we kind

1732
02:36:46,830 --> 02:36:52,170
address that if we still want to do business attraction but there's not a whole lot of options

1733
02:36:52,170 --> 02:36:58,730
there so we're going to maybe talk about that during that cost of commercial kitchens that has

1734
02:36:58,730 --> 02:37:06,070
been real obstacle as far as anyone trying to open a restaurant in the city. Part of the reason

1735
02:37:06,070 --> 02:37:11,610
in this implementation was vacant for so long. It's just that cost of a commercial kitchen so

1736
02:37:12,530 --> 02:37:14,990
And then support for manufacturing businesses.

1737
02:37:15,230 --> 02:37:17,790
We still have significant manufacturers in the city,

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02:37:17,910 --> 02:37:21,370
so we want to make sure whatever we come up with

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02:37:21,370 --> 02:37:23,010
with that we include them on there.

1740
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:28,710
And that's it.

1741
02:37:32,250 --> 02:37:32,410
All right.

1742
02:37:32,450 --> 02:37:33,430
Thanks for that presentation.

1743
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:36,130
Are there any comments from Council?

1744
02:37:36,850 --> 02:37:37,450
Vicemer Harper.

1745
02:37:38,770 --> 02:37:39,110
Thank you.

1746
02:37:40,170 --> 02:37:42,750
Can you go back to the first slide to talk about the hotel guide?

1747
02:37:42,770 --> 02:37:43,750
I think it was.

1748
02:37:47,880 --> 02:37:48,640
So this one.

1749
02:37:48,640 --> 02:37:52,860
What is that available is that in print form or

1750
02:37:52,860 --> 02:37:57,040
We're still we're still we have like a really close draft that we kind of haven't finally yet

1751
02:37:57,040 --> 02:38:00,100
So we got some last comments from

1752
02:38:00,100 --> 02:38:08,640
The semester on it, so we're kind of in the process of getting their last comments in on that and then once it's finalized where will it be circulated?

1753
02:38:08,900 --> 02:38:12,820
It would be digital. So I mean we can get it out a bunch of different ways now the

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02:38:12,820 --> 02:38:18,520
The focus area here is Myosquirt Park, so in the action plan, it talks about a recreation

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02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:23,440
department when we have leagues that come in and they're staying for the weekends and

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02:38:23,440 --> 02:38:23,540
so.

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02:38:24,280 --> 02:38:29,340
Yeah, wherever the organizer is for that league, we can make sure we're getting that over to

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02:38:29,340 --> 02:38:33,980
them and getting them to come stay at our fountain valley hotel instead of going to our neighboring

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02:38:33,980 --> 02:38:34,580
cities.

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02:38:35,080 --> 02:38:35,100
Okay.

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02:38:35,460 --> 02:38:35,620
All right.

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02:38:35,740 --> 02:38:35,980
That's good.

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02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:37,300
Thank you.

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02:38:37,480 --> 02:38:38,320
Yeah, Vice Mayor Harper.

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02:38:38,620 --> 02:38:40,760
It's a really nice brochure.

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02:38:40,760 --> 02:38:47,000
I picked what up here in the city hall and it's got, you know, it shows like 3037

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02:38:47,720 --> 02:38:53,160
actual locations. Pretty cool. Yeah, so it's my gift to you.

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02:38:57,040 --> 02:39:01,600
Just curious, it seems like this is a big effort, a lot of money, et cetera,

1769
02:39:02,320 --> 02:39:09,620
with the vacancy rate of 0.7% especially in retail. What more can we do? Like

1770
02:39:11,020 --> 02:39:15,720
It's not a lot, you know, we could, we could try to get people to come, but there's no room.

1771
02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:21,760
Yeah, that's what we're finding that's presents and challenging, but I think it's important to still continue to

1772
02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:27,660
go to like the ICC conferences to continue these relationships with these real estate folks.

1773
02:39:28,180 --> 02:39:32,280
There will come a time where it's, you know, it's not as good as it is right now.

1774
02:39:33,320 --> 02:39:35,620
So it's good to have those connections though.

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02:39:35,620 --> 02:39:37,720
Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council.

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02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:40,120
I can turn up the opportunity to talk about economic development.

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02:39:40,660 --> 02:39:41,960
And first, I want to thank Victor.

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02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:46,340
He's doing an amazing job coming into the city and strengthening our team.

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02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:48,500
This is actually Ron's last meeting with us.

1780
02:39:48,740 --> 02:39:50,180
He's taken a position somewhere else.

1781
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:51,920
I want to thank him for his efforts as well.

1782
02:39:52,160 --> 02:39:53,200
I vote no one there.

1783
02:39:53,500 --> 02:39:54,380
Yeah, he's here.

1784
02:39:54,540 --> 02:39:55,860
He'd let me vote on an either.

1785
02:39:56,440 --> 02:39:58,900
One of the things we are trying to do is create more space.

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02:40:00,480 --> 02:40:04,200
So in that Carousel shopping center, we've talked to the property owner to see if we can add

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02:40:04,200 --> 02:40:07,300
some additional pads because we have such a low vacancy rate.

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02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:12,860
And so one of the things that we can do at ICSC and the conferences is not only

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02:40:12,860 --> 02:40:16,840
tried to attract more folks and we make sure we have people that want to come

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02:40:16,840 --> 02:40:20,440
in town but then also try to either bring them into spaces that we have or

1791
02:40:20,440 --> 02:40:24,300
maybe create new spaces and show property owners that there is demand and if

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02:40:24,300 --> 02:40:27,380
they build it that we have so many that would be interested in it.

1793
02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:27,980
Good answer.

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02:40:31,630 --> 02:40:32,510
Councilwoman Constit?

1795
02:40:32,570 --> 02:40:35,230
Sure. I want to say Victor. Thank you very much for a great

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02:40:35,230 --> 02:40:42,250
presentation and Ron, we're going to miss you for sure. You can't leave. But anyway, we had

1797
02:40:42,250 --> 02:40:48,590
such a great time at ICSC. Both of you are stellar and really enjoy all the progress that

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02:40:48,590 --> 02:40:54,330
we're making, you know, sometimes businesses close, new ones open, business is shift around

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02:40:54,330 --> 02:41:03,350
and it's great to connect with other cities and developers and investors and people really

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02:41:03,350 --> 02:41:10,710
very highly of you guys both the city and our staff and it was really a great experience and thank you

1801
02:41:10,710 --> 02:41:16,430
so much from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. All right, thanks so much appreciate it gentlemen.

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02:41:23,790 --> 02:41:29,590
Okay, last presentation is a new citywide recruitment video introduction by Human Resources Manager

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02:41:29,590 --> 02:41:32,190
Tamron Roberts. Welcome.

1804
02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:41,840
Good evening Mayor and members of the city council. My name is Tamron Roberts

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02:41:41,840 --> 02:41:44,780
and a Human Resources Manager here with the City Pountain Valley.

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02:41:45,740 --> 02:41:48,680
I'm pleased to introduce the City's new recruitment video,

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02:41:49,300 --> 02:41:54,180
a project that directly supports one of the city's adopted three-year goals,

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02:41:54,820 --> 02:41:57,960
attracting and retaining quality staff through best practices

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02:41:57,960 --> 02:42:00,100
and emerging recruitment trends.

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02:42:00,800 --> 02:42:04,200
And as you may recall, this video was also a short term goal

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02:42:04,200 --> 02:42:07,100
as part of our six-month strategic objective.

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02:42:07,900 --> 02:42:12,940
As competition for qualified employees continues to increase throughout local government,

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02:42:13,680 --> 02:42:18,860
it's important that the city utilizes modern and effective recruitment tools that help us tell a story

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02:42:18,860 --> 02:42:22,740
and showcase what makes Fountain Valley a great place to work.

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02:42:23,780 --> 02:42:29,500
Development of this recruitment video began in January of 2026 and has been a collaborative effort

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02:42:29,500 --> 02:42:32,160
involving staff for multiple city departments.

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02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:41,000
From the outset, our goal was to create a video that authentically represents our organization, our employees, and our community.

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Rather than relying on stock images or outside actors, we wanted the individual's featured in the video to be the people who make city services possible every day.

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02:42:52,000 --> 02:43:01,040
Representatives from numerous departments participated in the project, allowing us to showcase the wide variety of career opportunities available within the city.

1820
02:43:01,040 --> 02:43:04,640
The purpose of the recruitment video is three folds.

1821
02:43:05,380 --> 02:43:07,560
Number one to showcase our people.

1822
02:43:08,300 --> 02:43:13,880
We want to perspective applicants to see the dedicated professionals who serve our community every day,

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02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:17,540
and gain a sense of the collaborative culture that exists throughout the organization.

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02:43:18,900 --> 02:43:20,800
Number two to reflect our workforce.

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02:43:21,140 --> 02:43:27,960
The city is fortunate to have a workforce that represents a broad range of backgrounds, experiences and perspectives.

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02:43:27,960 --> 02:43:33,400
It was important that the video reflect the diversity of our employees and demonstrate that

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02:43:33,400 --> 02:43:36,220
Fountain Valley is a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

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02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:41,980
And finally, number three, to highlight Fountain Valley is a great place to live and work.

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02:43:42,440 --> 02:43:46,400
In addition to showcasing our employees, we wanted to feature the community itself.

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02:43:47,140 --> 02:43:52,020
Fountain Valley offers an exceptional quality of life outstanding public services, beautiful

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02:43:52,020 --> 02:43:55,840
parks and facilities, and a strong sense of community pride.

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02:43:55,840 --> 02:44:02,940
The video emphasizes not only why someone would want to work here, but also why they want to be a part of the Fountain Valley community.

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02:44:04,060 --> 02:44:10,880
This video will serve as a valuable recruitment tool by enhancing job announcements and recruitment campaigns,

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02:44:11,620 --> 02:44:19,780
providing candidates with a better understanding of our organizational culture, helping our city stand out in a competitive labor market,

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02:44:19,780 --> 02:44:30,540
Supporting ongoing efforts to attract highly qualified and engaged applicants and strengthening our employer brand and reputation as an employer of choice.

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02:44:31,960 --> 02:44:41,880
This video will be utilized across multiple platforms including the city's website, social media channels, recruitment postings, job fairs and other outreach efforts.

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I would like to thank the employees and departments who participated in this project, both as an organizer and a featured employee.

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02:44:49,960 --> 02:44:57,480
They're willingness to share their experiences and represent a city made it possible to create a video that genuinely reflects the people and values

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02:44:57,480 --> 02:44:59,840
to make Fountain Valley such a special organization.

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02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:09,780
And of course, we think the council for supporting this important endeavor. At this time, I'm pleased to present the city's new recruitment video.

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02:45:10,620 --> 02:45:12,280
It's like we need a drum roll.

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02:45:21,050 --> 02:45:25,650
1957, the City of Bound Valley has earned this reputation as a nice place to live.

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02:45:25,950 --> 02:45:31,070
Define by the City's beautiful parks, well maintained streets, and excellent recreation programs.

1844
02:45:31,530 --> 02:45:36,410
This reputation didn't happen by chance, but it's the result of the people who show up every day.

1845
02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:38,690
Committed to serving the Bound Valley community.

1846
02:45:39,470 --> 02:45:43,150
We're getting a local government out of the community so that we can give the authors to these leaders

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02:45:43,150 --> 02:45:44,790
direct impact on the community.

1848
02:45:45,170 --> 02:45:48,330
Can they provide a small business and a private sector working for the city

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02:45:48,330 --> 02:45:50,190
about the value of the spending rate of students?

1850
02:45:50,530 --> 02:45:52,950
For me, it is very broad back to the sense of community

1851
02:45:52,950 --> 02:45:56,370
and cooperation between working with the police.

1852
02:45:56,630 --> 02:45:58,930
Even though the city is a smaller agency,

1853
02:45:59,410 --> 02:46:02,170
having the ability to work with so many different phases

1854
02:46:02,170 --> 02:46:05,290
and many different perspectives has brought us

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02:46:05,290 --> 02:46:07,650
a new light to everything that I do,

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02:46:07,790 --> 02:46:09,690
and I really appreciate that.

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located in the heart of Orange County in home to over 55,000 residents, but Boutin Valley is known for its state.

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02:46:17,250 --> 02:46:21,230
The neighborhood is providing local economy and outstanding quality of life.

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The Comcactin Size, Boutin Valley is a full service city, equipped to serve our community through a comprehensive range of departments,

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02:46:29,430 --> 02:46:37,950
including administration, city clerk's office, community development, finance, fire, human resources, information technology, police,

1861
02:46:37,950 --> 02:46:47,930
Public Works and Recreation and Community Services, the prestigious nature of the city opens the doors to taping on meaningful challenges alongside a close-knit helpful staff.

1862
02:46:48,270 --> 02:46:56,070
Our team is empowered with access to leadership, professional development opportunities, tuition reimbursement and with your pathways for advancements,

1863
02:46:56,310 --> 02:47:01,990
bringing your best towards the table also requires a healthy workload and our team's work-life balance is outstanding.

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02:47:01,990 --> 02:47:04,950
Can you come work on a low-income agency?

1865
02:47:05,470 --> 02:47:06,270
It's a choice.

1866
02:47:06,790 --> 02:47:08,730
And maybe I'm sure it's a start-up as it is.

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02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:15,290
Whether to be in the airing of the words, working for any part of the low-income agency.

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02:47:15,470 --> 02:47:18,490
Just open doors to the community and all of the community's best.

1869
02:47:18,710 --> 02:47:22,250
When they come to the community, you can move five years from the start-up.

1870
02:47:22,450 --> 02:47:23,850
You work for the office, and they're different.

1871
02:47:24,190 --> 02:47:25,470
They can see a lot better.

1872
02:47:25,810 --> 02:47:28,210
And maybe your agency is easy to get lost.

1873
02:47:28,210 --> 02:47:35,610
a couple of times in a part of it, so you'll get to know your colleagues and know how the others

1874
02:47:35,610 --> 02:47:41,090
participate because you are so close to it. And I really pray that that's in terms of

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02:47:41,090 --> 02:47:44,850
integrated. What truly says Mount Valley Apart is its culture.

1876
02:47:45,390 --> 02:47:50,030
One of the values of fresh perspectives encourages growth and brings a genuine sense of

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02:47:50,030 --> 02:47:56,130
money. Our team is guided by a citywide vision to be a safe, inclusive, and desirable community.

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02:47:56,130 --> 02:48:03,010
for everyone to live their best life and by addition to deliver exceptional service through a team oriented approach.

1879
02:48:03,290 --> 02:48:06,950
That commitment is grounded in poor values that shape everything we do.

1880
02:48:07,330 --> 02:48:15,790
Physical responsibility, honesty, integrity, teamwork, excellent customer service, innovation and dedication to advancing quality of life.

1881
02:48:15,790 --> 02:48:21,370
being in such small communities, everything that we can do as an impact on people that work in the business.

1882
02:48:21,850 --> 02:48:23,670
Just being contactable person.

1883
02:48:24,350 --> 02:48:25,550
You can actually consider that.

1884
02:48:25,630 --> 02:48:27,470
The work we're going to realize is really great.

1885
02:48:27,510 --> 02:48:30,650
We need support and the support from the supervisors and the co-workers.

1886
02:48:31,010 --> 02:48:32,130
This is something I've never seen before.

1887
02:48:32,610 --> 02:48:34,050
And really, it's really, really fantastic.

1888
02:48:34,470 --> 02:48:35,190
Rather than just support.

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02:48:35,870 --> 02:48:38,010
If someone was considering a job that you see,

1890
02:48:38,270 --> 02:48:39,490
if I'm not going to have a job that's not going to be done.

1891
02:48:40,910 --> 02:48:42,870
If someone was considering a job that you see, if I'm not going to have a job.

1892
02:48:42,870 --> 02:48:45,770
If someone was considering a job that you see,

1893
02:48:45,770 --> 02:48:47,530
the day of the day is just fantastic.

1894
02:48:47,810 --> 02:48:49,930
We're looking at the investments in the size of section.

1895
02:48:50,630 --> 02:48:53,770
It's a very small nip that we've got in the position.

1896
02:48:54,130 --> 02:48:55,630
How we encourage the little fighter.

1897
02:48:56,090 --> 02:48:57,130
I love working here.

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02:48:57,270 --> 02:48:58,590
How the forward coming work.

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02:48:59,350 --> 02:49:00,650
And I enjoy serving as students.

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Joining our team also comes with access to an exceptional

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02:49:05,210 --> 02:49:08,210
benefits package, including Calculus Health Insurance

1902
02:49:08,210 --> 02:49:11,170
Plan Options, basication and six-time.

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02:49:11,410 --> 02:49:14,990
11 paid holidays, membership in the California Public Employees

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02:49:14,990 --> 02:49:20,730
retirement system, flexible spending accounts, generous tuition reimbursement, deferred compensation

1905
02:49:20,730 --> 02:49:27,590
matching, flexible work schedules, such as 410 and 980, employee assistance program, and a widely

1906
02:49:27,590 --> 02:49:32,210
full-paid program. If you're looking for a career where you can make an impact, found

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02:49:32,210 --> 02:49:37,190
Valley is the place for you. Learn more about joy in our team and about Valley Talk Up.

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02:49:43,870 --> 02:49:46,650
All right, that was great. I'm going to look forward to

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02:49:50,490 --> 02:49:50,490
your applause.

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02:49:50,750 --> 02:49:54,470
Good evening. I just wanted to thank everyone for their support in this recruitment video.

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02:49:54,470 --> 02:49:59,570
It really is a testament of the wonderful people that work here in serve the community and thank you,

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02:49:59,710 --> 02:50:01,270
Cameron, for all that you've done for this as well.

1913
02:50:01,470 --> 02:50:02,930
So thank you.

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02:50:02,930 --> 02:50:03,590
Great job.

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02:50:09,570 --> 02:50:15,370
Okay, next is first city council's successor agency housing authority public comments on unscheduled matters only.

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02:50:15,510 --> 02:50:16,530
Do we have any requests to speak?

1917
02:50:16,950 --> 02:50:18,690
We have no request to speak.

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02:50:19,370 --> 02:50:22,270
Okay, next is public comments on scheduled matters only.

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02:50:22,450 --> 02:50:23,610
Are there any requests to speak?

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02:50:23,870 --> 02:50:25,630
We have a few requests to speak.

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02:50:25,630 --> 02:50:31,910
on items 10 and 16 at least 10 and 16.

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02:50:35,480 --> 02:50:36,940
So if it's a pleasure of the council,

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we'll do those comments at those agenda items.

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02:50:43,800 --> 02:50:47,040
Next is consent calendar items 1 through 8,

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02:50:47,180 --> 02:50:49,580
which would be approved simultaneously with one motion,

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02:50:50,440 --> 02:50:52,780
unless separate action or discussion is requested.

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02:50:53,140 --> 02:50:58,060
Are there any items that council wishes to pull?

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02:51:01,430 --> 02:51:02,130
OK, here I am now.

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02:51:02,130 --> 02:51:03,470
So, entertain a motion.

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02:51:03,890 --> 02:51:06,370
Make a motion to approve items number 1 through 8.

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And have a second.

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How's that good?

1933
02:51:11,840 --> 02:51:12,140
It's a vote.

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Just waiting for Vice Mayor Harper to vote.

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It's items 1 through 8 past 5-0.

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Okay, we're moving to public hearings.

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Just a reminder each person will have up to three minutes to speak on each public hearing.

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So, we'll start with item 9, code amendment 26-0-3,

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amending Fountain Valley Municipal Code Section 21.18-13-0.

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02:51:48,390 --> 02:51:52,650
establishing objective design standards for multi-family and mixed residential

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excuse residential projects presentation deputy city manager community development director on our dad boy

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02:51:58,870 --> 02:52:00,910
Welcome. Yes, sir. Good evening once again

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02:52:00,910 --> 02:52:07,010
We have before you this evening consideration of a set of objective design standards to guide future residential and

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02:52:07,630 --> 02:52:09,390
mixed use developments in the city

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02:52:09,390 --> 02:52:14,570
The reason this item is being presented to you for consideration is that the states

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continues to fundamentally reshape how housing is being processed and the applications move

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02:52:22,110 --> 02:52:26,550
forward in the city. Traditionally in what you've seen in the last year or two is

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02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:30,150
we brought you entitlement packages that are discretionary that comes to the planning commission

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02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:35,270
in city council for your review. However the state is pushing cities more and more to

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administratively or by-right approval which means a meet certain criteria and if the meet those

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criteria they get approved. And so there's a number of state laws that have been recently passed

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that push continually pushed the city in that direction. Recently you saw an ordinance

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02:52:53,170 --> 02:52:58,510
that came before you that conforms with state law which requires the city to consider housing

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projects that provide 20% affordable units to be considered ministerially. That was something

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that state ACD asked us to do, even though it was part of state law, which the city council

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did.

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But once something becomes administrative by right and not an entitlement, our ability to work

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with the applicant somewhat diminishes, or greatly diminishes actually, as I said as long

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as they meet certain criteria, then that application continues to move forward and get approved.

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And so what many cities are doing is adopting objective design standards.

1961
02:53:36,250 --> 02:53:47,790
So right now we have subjective discussions between staff and the applicant in terms of design and see a number of parking spaces, amenities, those types of things.

1962
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:57,490
And so what this does is it creates those objective design standards that are measurable that developers know that they have to meet.

1963
02:53:57,490 --> 02:54:01,270
and if they don't meet those, and they go through a ministerial process, then their project

1964
02:54:01,270 --> 02:54:02,070
does not get approved.

1965
02:54:03,950 --> 02:54:05,410
It does not replace our zoning code.

1966
02:54:06,070 --> 02:54:11,090
The zoning code still deals with things like setbacks and stepbacks and height limitations.

1967
02:54:11,850 --> 02:54:14,670
These would be more related to design work.

1968
02:54:16,470 --> 02:54:21,290
The Planning Commission did hear this at their April 8th meaning and by a vote of 4 to 0,

1969
02:54:21,790 --> 02:54:25,710
did recommend that the city council adopt the ordinance before you.

1970
02:54:25,710 --> 02:54:29,210
We did receive comments from one of the major landowners in the city.

1971
02:54:30,110 --> 02:54:31,130
They recommended some changes.

1972
02:54:31,730 --> 02:54:33,490
We thought there's ability to some of those.

1973
02:54:33,630 --> 02:54:37,430
And so you have a red line version in front of you with some of those changes incorporated.

1974
02:54:38,370 --> 02:54:41,850
And now I like to turn over the microphone to Alan Lumis.

1975
02:54:42,050 --> 02:54:43,110
He is with placeworks.

1976
02:54:43,710 --> 02:54:48,810
As you recall, placeworks helped us, excuse me, adopt our new general plan.

1977
02:54:49,370 --> 02:54:52,190
They helped us with our inclusionary housing ordinance with our resounds.

1978
02:54:52,190 --> 02:54:59,030
And this is one of the last items that they are assisting us, which to implement our

1979
02:54:59,030 --> 02:55:00,490
general plan and housing elements.

1980
02:55:00,930 --> 02:55:05,750
So I want to walk you through some of the major focus areas of the design standards.

1981
02:55:08,760 --> 02:55:09,100
Welcome, Alan.

1982
02:55:09,660 --> 02:55:10,220
Thank you.

1983
02:55:10,540 --> 02:55:13,360
Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, pleasure to be here this evening.

1984
02:55:13,920 --> 02:55:19,180
I know you have a busy evening, still to come, so I'm done to be efficient and presentation.

1985
02:55:20,960 --> 02:55:22,340
That being said, how do I move this slide?

1986
02:55:22,340 --> 02:55:24,980
you can just use the arrow key on the keyboard exponent.

1987
02:55:28,440 --> 02:55:31,740
So as a community development director indicated,

1988
02:55:32,200 --> 02:55:35,000
the reason we're here is because the state legislature

1989
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:37,840
of the past 10 years has passed the battery of flaws

1990
02:55:37,840 --> 02:55:39,720
intended to accelerate housing production.

1991
02:55:40,440 --> 02:55:43,880
And one of the key components of that is pushing approval

1992
02:55:43,880 --> 02:55:45,980
of housing developments that incorporate

1993
02:55:45,980 --> 02:55:50,100
affordable units to a ministerial approval.

1994
02:55:50,800 --> 02:56:02,980
And the cities are now obligated to use what is referred to as objective design standards as they evaluate those proposals and offer them approval or send them back to the drawing board.

1995
02:56:04,460 --> 02:56:15,720
One of those state laws, Senate Bill 35, one of the early ones, does provide a definition of what is meant by objective design standards, so this is the definition that comes out of the California government code.

1996
02:56:15,720 --> 02:56:24,980
And so you can see one of the kind of key components is an external or uniform benchmark that an applicant can't know before they submit the application.

1997
02:56:26,460 --> 02:56:40,360
What does that look like in practice? Well, on the left-hand side of this table, you have subjective design guidelines, which is what cities have relied on for many years to evaluate projects.

1998
02:56:40,360 --> 02:56:52,760
And so it's not uncommon that cities might have adopted design guidelines and the kind of key criteria that's being used as a phrase like as on the bottom left development should put the character of the community.

1999
02:56:53,360 --> 02:57:05,920
Well under the current state law, there's a lot of ambiguity about that. What is character mean what is community is community mean the entire city. Does it mean just the immediate neighborhood? How big is that immediate neighborhood? Is it the immediate block?

2000
02:57:05,920 --> 02:57:10,980
Or is it just the two parcels directly adjacent to the development and question?

2001
02:57:11,220 --> 02:57:14,320
All of that is unknown with that kind of language.

2002
02:57:15,540 --> 02:57:21,080
Whereas on the right hand side you have language like will, shall, must, and then very kind

2003
02:57:21,080 --> 02:57:27,720
of clear sort of statements of intent that could be measured or kind of evaluated objectively.

2004
02:57:28,700 --> 02:57:34,160
To put this into visual terms, the illustrations on the left are not from Fountain Valley,

2005
02:57:34,160 --> 02:57:40,260
from other communities, but they're pretty typical of the kinds of illustrations, cities, design

2006
02:57:40,260 --> 02:57:46,500
guidelines might have used in the past. So it's about the modulation of building heights

2007
02:57:46,500 --> 02:57:53,100
and it kind of up and down pattern of roof lines. So if you could even read the many zero-ox

2008
02:57:53,100 --> 02:57:58,540
times over illustration, I'm still would not tell you exactly what is expected other than to have

2009
02:57:58,540 --> 02:57:59,740
some different roof forms.

2010
02:58:00,500 --> 02:58:03,540
The illustration on the right is the exact same discussion

2011
02:58:03,540 --> 02:58:05,920
and the proposed objective design standards

2012
02:58:05,920 --> 02:58:07,640
that are in front of you for fountain valley.

2013
02:58:08,160 --> 02:58:11,660
So it provides very clear definitions about what's expected.

2014
02:58:12,400 --> 02:58:13,900
The illustration is on the right.

2015
02:58:14,120 --> 02:58:16,860
We relate to the modulation of building heights.

2016
02:58:17,300 --> 02:58:19,860
All those are dimensions, strings that give very precise

2017
02:58:19,860 --> 02:58:21,560
dimensions and expectations.

2018
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:25,760
So an applicant would know what the expectations are.

2019
02:58:25,820 --> 02:58:27,900
Your city staff could pull out a ruler

2020
02:58:27,900 --> 02:58:31,520
and measure whether an applicant actually meets the expectations or not.

2021
02:58:34,260 --> 02:58:39,880
So, in summary, what this, the implications of all of this is that we really need to shift

2022
02:58:40,500 --> 02:58:47,760
from a sort of format where we would say, should please encourage to do this on the design

2023
02:58:47,760 --> 02:58:52,080
side and move to this kind of very precise shell and must-language.

2024
02:58:52,080 --> 02:59:19,780
And so this now enables what is mandated by the state which is ministerial or effectively over the counter reviewed by your planning staff of qualifying housing development and becomes the only basis by which your staff can turn projects back to the drawing board if the development comes forward doesn't meet the objective design standards city staff can say you don't meet the standards go back to the drawing board kind of dialogue you typically have in public hearing.

2025
02:59:19,780 --> 02:59:27,900
The state's intention of all this is to make development more predictable and streamline housing development.

2026
02:59:32,700 --> 02:59:38,800
So onto the document that's in front of you for consideration the planning commission reviewed a few months ago.

2027
02:59:40,200 --> 02:59:44,760
It is a standalone document that exists outside of your development code.

2028
02:59:45,000 --> 02:59:47,400
So we're not integrating this into the development code.

2029
02:59:47,400 --> 02:59:53,320
by a very strategic amendment to your development code that we'll incorporate this by reference.

2030
02:59:54,340 --> 02:59:59,940
One of the key features of this is it means that this independent document that we present.

2031
03:00:00,900 --> 03:00:10,880
It should you find that it's not working for you. It'll be fairly effective and easy just to amend this individual document without having to open up the entire development code.

2032
03:00:11,700 --> 03:00:17,800
It will cover single-family, multi-family development and mixed-use development as indicated in the bullets.

2033
03:00:18,440 --> 03:00:27,260
These standards will apply city-wide, so they will cover the entirety of the city, but they will only apply to new construction.

2034
03:00:27,260 --> 03:00:33,040
And we do have a definition about how to deal with kind of major renovations, so we're covering

2035
03:00:33,040 --> 03:00:34,020
ourselves there.

2036
03:00:34,240 --> 03:00:39,500
And as a community development director indicated, these do not change or modify your

2037
03:00:39,500 --> 03:00:44,060
development code standards that relate to allowable density, allowable height, your basic

2038
03:00:44,060 --> 03:00:45,080
setbacks, et cetera.

2039
03:00:45,540 --> 03:00:48,120
You're existing development code standards remain in place.

2040
03:00:49,080 --> 03:00:54,380
This is a kind of overlay of design criteria that goes on top of those standards.

2041
03:00:55,780 --> 03:01:00,560
So there's five basic chapters, we have a section on purpose.

2042
03:01:01,040 --> 03:01:05,840
This is important in that it defines different development skills, small, medium, and

2043
03:01:05,840 --> 03:01:11,760
large based on overall acreage or number of units are building height and on the chart

2044
03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:17,920
on the right, all the standards apply to the large developments but as you get to the

2045
03:01:17,920 --> 03:01:21,040
or small-scale developments less standard supply.

2046
03:01:21,260 --> 03:01:28,260
So this is intended to make it more effective and easier for less well-finance,

2047
03:01:28,400 --> 03:01:31,060
they're kind of small-scale developers, your mom and pop developers,

2048
03:01:31,800 --> 03:01:35,180
who have smaller lots to be able to move through the process more effectively.

2049
03:01:36,520 --> 03:01:39,820
And quite frankly, a number of these standards that we wrote really don't apply

2050
03:01:39,820 --> 03:01:43,300
to small-scale development, but they do to very large development.

2051
03:01:44,840 --> 03:01:47,700
As mentioned, there is a section that deals with single family

2052
03:01:47,700 --> 03:01:48,320
development.

2053
03:01:50,340 --> 03:01:54,600
And so, again, this is related to new construction. One of the key kind of criteria

2054
03:01:54,600 --> 03:02:01,060
that this is attempting to address is the scale and the size and the footprint and location

2055
03:02:01,060 --> 03:02:09,040
of second story kind of additions, if you will. New houses that are kind of for homes that are

2056
03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:12,480
being demolished entirely and then they're building a two story house and a neighborhood that

2057
03:02:12,480 --> 03:02:17,160
maybe is historically single family. How are you supposed to position that second floor? There's

2058
03:02:17,160 --> 03:02:25,000
some basic criteria for how to make the front of the house attractive, I would say we took

2059
03:02:25,000 --> 03:02:29,720
pains as we wrote this to try and include in here the things that pretty much any homeowner

2060
03:02:29,720 --> 03:02:33,540
would aspire to. You would want to have an attractive front door and you'd want to have some

2061
03:02:33,540 --> 03:02:38,440
decoration on the front of the house for maybe a mixed materials. So this is fairly light handed again

2062
03:02:38,440 --> 03:02:43,600
intended to apply to new construction, not the renovations of people's existing homes.

2063
03:02:44,840 --> 03:02:48,400
On the multi-family side, this is where the bulk of the document works.

2064
03:02:49,760 --> 03:02:53,500
We have a big discussion on site planning and how to organize vehicle circulation

2065
03:02:53,500 --> 03:02:54,120
on sites.

2066
03:02:54,620 --> 03:02:58,640
So these sections, for example, only apply to those large sites, not to the small

2067
03:02:58,640 --> 03:03:02,820
sites that might be under two acres, where it's really just one building.

2068
03:03:03,780 --> 03:03:07,020
We have a pretty extensive discussion on open space.

2069
03:03:07,820 --> 03:03:12,780
So one of the key components here is that you have standards for a certain amount of

2070
03:03:12,780 --> 03:03:16,180
or footage of open space per units, and then applicants

2071
03:03:16,180 --> 03:03:18,600
can sort of decide under a current regime,

2072
03:03:18,780 --> 03:03:21,580
kind of decide how they wanted to distribute that open space.

2073
03:03:22,140 --> 03:03:25,480
So here we're saying there are specific things we'd like to see

2074
03:03:25,480 --> 03:03:28,800
in terms of amenities based on the scale of the development.

2075
03:03:29,520 --> 03:03:32,180
It is a sort of menu option.

2076
03:03:32,460 --> 03:03:34,800
So we say, if you're a development, for example,

2077
03:03:34,980 --> 03:03:38,560
between 21 and 30 units, you either have to provide us

2078
03:03:38,560 --> 03:03:41,660
with one major amenity or two minor amenities.

2079
03:03:41,660 --> 03:03:53,820
And then we define what we mean by a major amenity or minor amenity, so an applicant has the ability to tailor their project based on how they intend to market the project, who they see their future residents to be, etc.

2080
03:03:54,160 --> 03:04:00,060
So there's still a high degree of choice, but what those amenities are gets pretty precise in a way it's measured.

2081
03:04:02,220 --> 03:04:07,220
Big discussion on mass and scale that really kicks in when you have buildings that get over three stories tall.

2082
03:04:07,420 --> 03:04:11,560
So this is your larger multifamily structure, such as what's being built across the street.

2083
03:04:11,560 --> 03:04:39,580
So again, a bunch of standards that relate to the articulation of the upper floors of that building being set back or kind of terrorists and some fashion, some standards that relate to preventing a giant blank facade and having the sort of in-out patterns of, you know, the facade being having some degree of sort of articulation and then some special thinking about like a buildings occupied corners or other unique sites how they should address architecturally those kind of particular characteristics.

2084
03:04:40,860 --> 03:04:48,420
Discussion on material details, the resusciting of windows, all that sort of is covered here.

2085
03:04:49,040 --> 03:04:53,980
And then some standards related to mixed use that go beyond what's in your zoning code,

2086
03:04:54,320 --> 03:04:55,740
which is kind of a proto version.

2087
03:04:56,160 --> 03:05:02,240
Your zoning code today has objective design standards related to mixed use development.

2088
03:05:02,740 --> 03:05:08,000
We helped write those as part of the general plan efforts, so there's sort of the beginning of an objective design standards

2089
03:05:08,580 --> 03:05:13,700
that you already have, we're building on this by trying to talk about how entries should be

2090
03:05:13,700 --> 03:05:17,740
located for vertical mix to use where you have commercial on the ground for residential

2091
03:05:17,740 --> 03:05:22,860
above or what you should do when you have one site with a commercial building setting next

2092
03:05:22,860 --> 03:05:27,320
to residential building and potentially a parking garage that might serve us one or both

2093
03:05:27,320 --> 03:05:33,320
of those uses. So we have standards associated with those problems. As a community development

2094
03:05:33,320 --> 03:05:38,840
director indicated after we went to planning commission we received a letter from one of the

2095
03:05:38,840 --> 03:05:45,760
development companies active in the city. They had very specific comments that are based on their

2096
03:05:45,760 --> 03:05:50,680
experience doing development and found valley and kind of the Orange County region. We looked

2097
03:05:50,680 --> 03:05:55,400
at most of those and thought they were perfectly sound and legitimate comments based on construction

2098
03:05:55,400 --> 03:06:02,500
logic. And so the red line version, that's in front of you, though, we'd be asking you

2099
03:06:02,500 --> 03:06:06,820
to adopt, does it incorporate the majority of those comments and be prepared to kind

2100
03:06:06,820 --> 03:06:13,560
of talk to any of those if you are so inclined? And so with that, I thank you for your time,

2101
03:06:13,660 --> 03:06:18,300
intention, and leave it with a recommendation from the Community Development Director.

2102
03:06:19,100 --> 03:06:21,900
Great, thanks so much. I'll open up two comments from Council.

2103
03:06:21,900 --> 03:06:23,560
Thanks, my harbor.

2104
03:06:24,580 --> 03:06:24,940
Thank you.

2105
03:06:25,020 --> 03:06:25,960
I had a couple of questions.

2106
03:06:27,020 --> 03:06:32,180
So you mentioned applies to single family multi family mixed use, so not industrial commercial.

2107
03:06:32,560 --> 03:06:34,320
I guess there's no ministerial.

2108
03:06:34,460 --> 03:06:34,920
Correct.

2109
03:06:35,360 --> 03:06:42,660
You know, for better or worse, the state of California legislature doesn't seem to care if it takes you 10 years to entitle a car dealership or anything.

2110
03:06:43,340 --> 03:06:46,260
But they do care how long it takes you to go housing development.

2111
03:06:46,940 --> 03:06:58,620
And for a single family, if there's some standards in there, what would be an example of a single family ministerial approval type of a project?

2112
03:06:58,680 --> 03:07:01,460
Can I turn to the community development to work around that one?

2113
03:07:05,800 --> 03:07:09,700
So this was also meant to satisfy some of the issues we're having with the infill development.

2114
03:07:09,820 --> 03:07:16,660
So if you've built this single family home, it's not in, there's no entitlement, currently it's good to ministerial process.

2115
03:07:16,660 --> 03:07:24,100
And so we wanted to make sure we covered one unit being built to you and is being built as we have in the city.

2116
03:07:25,220 --> 03:07:28,400
So how is it different from what we do now?

2117
03:07:29,100 --> 03:07:32,260
It just covers, so we have some very dated, I say,

2118
03:07:32,400 --> 03:07:36,420
30 or 40 year old standards for infill that are outdated.

2119
03:07:36,660 --> 03:07:43,080
And so this covers line of sites and other people's windows and backyards and those types of things.

2120
03:07:43,080 --> 03:07:47,200
if you're putting a home in a single-family area and in filling.

2121
03:07:49,120 --> 03:07:54,500
Okay, but it wouldn't be a it's different from the multi-family

2122
03:07:55,260 --> 03:07:58,220
grant, a ministerial process, okay.

2123
03:07:58,520 --> 03:08:02,120
And this is one of the areas a planning commission chair actually wanted us to come back with

2124
03:08:02,120 --> 03:08:05,020
and do a little deeper into which we'll do in the near future.

2125
03:08:05,820 --> 03:08:07,640
Okay, all right, thank you.

2126
03:08:07,900 --> 03:08:08,700
Councilwoman Constantine.

2127
03:08:08,700 --> 03:08:15,760
So, I've looked through now a couple of times, I don't have a red line version, do we know

2128
03:08:15,760 --> 03:08:20,940
it's specific pages, the Mr. Sakioka has a situation with?

2129
03:08:23,640 --> 03:08:30,020
Because I don't see anything red in here, and I literally just went page by page, not knowing

2130
03:08:30,020 --> 03:08:36,040
that there was anything like this. So while we're waiting on that, so how does this potentially

2131
03:08:36,040 --> 03:08:39,940
change what's across the street. I mean, it's not going to change because it's already approved,

2132
03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:45,320
but looking at the big scheme of things, if this would have been the case that this might have

2133
03:08:45,320 --> 03:08:52,140
been approved back in 2022, what might have been affected a light version of that, what for the

2134
03:08:52,140 --> 03:09:02,780
former boomerslot at Magnoia and Warner and then the Yucca in Hile, just some nuances that if this

2135
03:09:02,780 --> 03:09:07,440
have been approved before those had gone through technically speaking.

2136
03:09:07,880 --> 03:09:11,820
So since those were discretionary projects, we would still have the same discussion.

2137
03:09:12,460 --> 03:09:14,440
We hopefully would have gotten to the same point.

2138
03:09:15,280 --> 03:09:19,940
This allows us to, even if it's discretionary permit, still rely on these standards.

2139
03:09:21,120 --> 03:09:24,580
So it does still impact those projects, but we still, with those discretionary projects,

2140
03:09:24,600 --> 03:09:27,180
have the ability to negotiate with the developer.

2141
03:09:27,180 --> 03:09:33,440
Because I'm not crazy for this. I don't like, I mean most people think I like a lot of government, but

2142
03:09:33,440 --> 03:09:36,020
This is a California state thing, am I not correct?

2143
03:09:36,380 --> 03:09:38,000
Yes, there are other states doing this or

2144
03:09:38,000 --> 03:09:44,640
So right now we're kind of unprotected. So if somebody comes in for a ministerial project, I don't want under one of those bills that Alan listed out there

2145
03:09:44,640 --> 03:09:47,320
We would not have anything in place that would

2146
03:09:48,420 --> 03:09:51,580
Create list out any objective design standards. So there's amenities

2147
03:09:53,300 --> 03:09:57,420
architectural features, those types of things that we care about in the city.

2148
03:09:58,280 --> 03:10:02,080
We would not have the ability to regulate that in the way that we need to.

2149
03:10:02,340 --> 03:10:06,340
So this puts a layer, a protection in for the city in case somebody does come back with

2150
03:10:06,340 --> 03:10:07,140
that type of application.

2151
03:10:07,220 --> 03:10:07,360
Sure.

2152
03:10:07,460 --> 03:10:11,920
I mean, I'm all for consistency at the counter, and I think we do a really good job of that,

2153
03:10:12,320 --> 03:10:13,840
but this is kind of heavy.

2154
03:10:16,670 --> 03:10:21,110
So do we have any news about the red line situation, or do we have a specific, are there

2155
03:10:21,110 --> 03:10:24,390
certain pages that we are noting?

2156
03:10:28,850 --> 03:10:30,090
I would say that that's for a cross

2157
03:10:30,090 --> 03:10:32,010
about 10 pages, approximately.

2158
03:10:36,720 --> 03:10:38,300
The city of Quebec is providing you with that copy.

2159
03:10:38,500 --> 03:10:39,880
OK, thank you.

2160
03:10:41,480 --> 03:10:42,660
Any other questions from Council?

2161
03:10:43,380 --> 03:10:44,920
Yes, well, wait for that.

2162
03:10:46,680 --> 03:10:47,980
Oh, she's back.

2163
03:10:48,800 --> 03:10:49,600
No, OK.

2164
03:10:51,880 --> 03:10:55,760
OK, what you're proposing here, I

2165
03:10:55,760 --> 03:10:58,160
assume it's by reference to the SB9.

2166
03:10:59,920 --> 03:11:06,860
SB9, AB-2011, there's a bill up or consideration right now is AB-206, so there's a slew

2167
03:11:06,860 --> 03:11:09,000
bills that have been passed and that are being considered.

2168
03:11:09,960 --> 03:11:14,020
Which is, I understand that this is actually help protect our city, right, and what you're

2169
03:11:14,020 --> 03:11:14,340
proposing.

2170
03:11:16,080 --> 03:11:22,700
But have you communicate with each city prior to, this is the road that you want to take,

2171
03:11:23,180 --> 03:11:25,920
and have they given a feedback, what you're trying to propose tonight?

2172
03:11:25,920 --> 03:11:29,380
Now, Alan can speak to that because he has experience with other jurisdictions.

2173
03:11:29,500 --> 03:11:41,580
I think ATD doesn't really have any guidelines on objective design standards, but they are, I think they're in favor of cities adopting them.

2174
03:11:42,340 --> 03:11:54,500
Yeah, if I may on this, that it's correct, HCD, the state, while they say, if you're going to review a affordable housing qualifying developments in provide ministerial review,

2175
03:11:54,500 --> 03:12:00,320
you need to do that using objective design standards, they do not, however, tell you exactly

2176
03:12:00,320 --> 03:12:02,560
how to construct your objective design standards.

2177
03:12:02,740 --> 03:12:07,720
So that is a matter of local policy as, you know, if you will, the state takes away local control,

2178
03:12:07,860 --> 03:12:10,080
but they give a little bit back in the other, in one hand.

2179
03:12:10,240 --> 03:12:11,940
So that's kind of what's happening here.

2180
03:12:13,200 --> 03:12:20,080
So to answer the other question, this is not being communicated to HCD, we're not sent

2181
03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:26,800
document to them, but we have worked in over 20 communities in the state of California that

2182
03:12:26,800 --> 03:12:31,380
has not been part of the practice, the housing and community development department does not

2183
03:12:31,380 --> 03:12:40,780
typically review objective design standards before cities adopt them. And so what I just said

2184
03:12:40,780 --> 03:12:46,960
by 20 plus communities, you're certainly not alone amongst communities adopting objective design

2185
03:12:46,960 --> 03:12:53,100
standards every city in the City of California is working down this path. And so we've

2186
03:12:53,100 --> 03:12:59,620
done this work from Shastolake, all the way down to Elisa Viejo, and everywhere in between.

2187
03:13:00,320 --> 03:13:05,380
Okay. I'm glad that you say that. But my concern here is I don't want us to make one step

2188
03:13:05,380 --> 03:13:11,600
forward and to a two step backward. Here's what I'm going with this. Because the city of

2189
03:13:11,600 --> 03:13:18,620
Anyhow, did receive a conflicting reference to the Objective Standard.

2190
03:13:19,520 --> 03:13:24,920
It's made a fact that received a letter from March 24, 2025, from ACT say that, hey,

2191
03:13:25,400 --> 03:13:32,600
your Objective Standard does not promise the state reference to that, which is the government

2192
03:13:32,600 --> 03:13:40,240
section code section 65852.21, parentheses B, parentheses 3, and it reads as follow.

2193
03:13:40,240 --> 03:13:48,280
A local energy shall not impose objective zoning standard. That's what we're trying to do.

2194
03:13:48,760 --> 03:13:57,760
Objective subdivision standard and objective design standard that do not apply uniformly to development within the underlying zone.

2195
03:13:59,000 --> 03:14:07,300
This division shall not prevent a local agency, us, from adopting or imposing objecting zoning standard.

2196
03:14:07,300 --> 03:14:14,860
on the development authorized by this sections, if those standard are more permits than

2197
03:14:14,860 --> 03:14:21,220
applicable standard within the building underlying zone. So I'd have just received that,

2198
03:14:21,220 --> 03:14:29,560
they received that in 25. The city of the town of Los Altos Hill received a letter from

2199
03:14:29,560 --> 03:14:35,320
ACD January 26 of this year. That's why I'm trying to say I don't want to do one support until

2200
03:14:35,320 --> 03:14:37,800
because we'll get challenged by the state.

2201
03:14:38,000 --> 03:14:38,580
That's why I ask you.

2202
03:14:38,600 --> 03:14:41,640
Have you come here with a city on your objective standard?

2203
03:14:44,840 --> 03:14:45,560
We have not.

2204
03:14:45,620 --> 03:14:47,940
We didn't want to get into the practice of setting our ordinances

2205
03:14:47,940 --> 03:14:49,800
to ACD prior to adoption.

2206
03:14:50,580 --> 03:14:52,600
What normally happens is that they have an enforcement division

2207
03:14:53,400 --> 03:14:55,400
so they'll eventually review our code

2208
03:14:55,400 --> 03:14:57,980
if they have if they take issue with it

2209
03:14:57,980 --> 03:15:00,000
then they'll contact us, they do that.

2210
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,740
Regularly with our ADU ordinances, and then we come back to you and make those minor changes. Those two technical, I'm guessing, I'm guessing, there are technical assistance letters to those cities.

2211
03:15:10,120 --> 03:15:24,240
Some very specific to something they adopted. I believe Placerworks has done a number of these as Alan mentioned and none of them have been challenged. And so, you know, we're coming into this after a number of cities have adopted them.

2212
03:15:24,240 --> 03:15:30,860
And so we have that benefit of the history of not being challenged with the ECD, so I'm hoping

2213
03:15:30,860 --> 03:15:31,780
that will be the case here.

2214
03:15:32,460 --> 03:15:36,760
Well, I just mentioned 2C received a letter from HD challenging the objectives standard.

2215
03:15:38,500 --> 03:15:43,460
And there are S1 zoning, which is residential, is governed by the objectives of standards,

2216
03:15:43,960 --> 03:15:47,520
such as lot area, lot coverage setback, so forth.

2217
03:15:48,220 --> 03:15:51,040
So as one I'm saying, I don't want to make a one step forward to step backward.

2218
03:15:51,040 --> 03:15:54,180
Well, make sure we spend adequate time on this.

2219
03:15:55,320 --> 03:15:55,380
Yeah.

2220
03:15:55,460 --> 03:15:56,480
I will say, I don't know.

2221
03:15:57,020 --> 03:15:59,540
We did not work on Los Altos Hills as far as I'm aware.

2222
03:16:00,600 --> 03:16:02,800
We're pursuing some work in that region right now.

2223
03:16:03,480 --> 03:16:07,680
On the city of Anaheim, we did assist Anaheim and preparing their objective design standards.

2224
03:16:08,720 --> 03:16:14,680
And they took the approach of integrating their objective design standards directly into their development code,

2225
03:16:16,660 --> 03:16:20,500
which kind of opened the door for conflicts with other parts

2226
03:16:20,500 --> 03:16:25,640
their development code, they have an extraordinarily complicated code, or different parts

2227
03:16:25,640 --> 03:16:31,820
of the city, almost have completely separate zoning codes from other parts of the zoning

2228
03:16:31,820 --> 03:16:32,000
code.

2229
03:16:32,000 --> 03:16:35,060
It's an extraordinarily complex zoning code to navigate.

2230
03:16:35,300 --> 03:16:39,820
So it doesn't surprise me that there is potential conflicts between what they ultimately

2231
03:16:39,820 --> 03:16:45,960
adopted, but I will also say they've not communicated to us that they're working on specific

2232
03:16:45,960 --> 03:16:48,920
that they receive letters from HCD, that they are attempting to resolve.

2233
03:16:49,560 --> 03:16:54,300
Okay, so I guess you're looking for direction for tonight, whether to adopt this or not.

2234
03:16:54,520 --> 03:16:58,820
I don't know how my other colleagues feel, but for me, it's a no,

2235
03:16:59,360 --> 03:17:04,860
until you can make it with HD because if it's a no, if this gets approved,

2236
03:17:05,640 --> 03:17:12,260
what happened is the developers go in and you force them to go objective standard, design their challenges.

2237
03:17:13,080 --> 03:17:14,960
And it's going to take to HD that we have to fight it.

2238
03:17:15,620 --> 03:17:16,440
It's going to cost us money.

2239
03:17:17,720 --> 03:17:20,580
So that's my intake on this.

2240
03:17:20,920 --> 03:17:24,600
Until we get a clear direction from HCD, then I'm ready to vote.

2241
03:17:24,840 --> 03:17:25,420
But now to the end.

2242
03:17:25,500 --> 03:17:27,540
Two city has been received later from the memory.

2243
03:17:29,830 --> 03:17:32,150
We still need to do a public hearing,

2244
03:17:32,450 --> 03:17:33,810
but we need the clerk to be here.

2245
03:17:34,830 --> 03:17:37,570
Are there any other questions from Council in the meantime?

2246
03:17:39,740 --> 03:17:42,880
Well, I mean, is it something that we could continue if we needed to,

2247
03:17:43,140 --> 03:17:44,440
or is it time sensitive?

2248
03:17:46,470 --> 03:17:48,050
I would say there is some time sensitive.

2249
03:17:48,350 --> 03:17:49,670
It's sensitivity to it.

2250
03:17:49,670 --> 03:17:57,370
If there is an application, we just had one come in for a different project and from our understanding

2251
03:17:57,370 --> 03:18:06,130
they tried to get that project in prior to the standards being adopted by Council so that

2252
03:18:06,130 --> 03:18:10,070
the application tried to come in before you adopted the object design standards so that they don't

2253
03:18:10,070 --> 03:18:10,950
have to meet them.

2254
03:18:11,170 --> 03:18:12,390
So we're now going to protect it.

2255
03:18:12,850 --> 03:18:16,750
We, again, as an example, we adopt ADU ordinances.

2256
03:18:18,610 --> 03:18:23,770
If there's a provision within those that ACD objects you, we can go and fix it.

2257
03:18:24,290 --> 03:18:27,490
But the whole ordinance isn't thrown out, and I believe that would be the case here,

2258
03:18:27,510 --> 03:18:32,610
where if there was a provision or two that ACD objected to the whole ordinance wouldn't be thrown out,

2259
03:18:32,750 --> 03:18:36,350
but those specific provisions may be looked at.

2260
03:18:36,570 --> 03:18:38,730
But again, we can have the city attorney way on this.

2261
03:18:43,490 --> 03:18:46,070
Okay, why don't we go ahead and open the public hearing?

2262
03:18:48,110 --> 03:18:49,970
Are there any requests to speak?

2263
03:18:51,110 --> 03:18:53,150
I have no requests to speak on this item.

2264
03:18:53,450 --> 03:18:54,810
Okay, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing.

2265
03:18:58,280 --> 03:18:58,520
All right.

2266
03:18:59,160 --> 03:19:00,780
Any other questions from Councillor Paismarov?

2267
03:19:01,180 --> 03:19:01,520
No.

2268
03:19:01,860 --> 03:19:06,780
I just understand Councillor Boos concerns.

2269
03:19:07,240 --> 03:19:15,920
However, I think our practice has always been to adopt the standards using experts like a place

2270
03:19:15,920 --> 03:19:23,920
It works in the field and if a GD has issues with any of it, they can, they can contact us and we'll work it out.

2271
03:19:24,820 --> 03:19:27,220
So I'm supportive of this and I will move the item.

2272
03:19:30,580 --> 03:19:31,580
I will go ahead and second.

2273
03:19:32,160 --> 03:19:33,080
Mayor, can I read the title?

2274
03:19:33,620 --> 03:19:33,900
Yes, please.

2275
03:19:34,100 --> 03:19:36,180
This is an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Fountain Valley.

2276
03:19:36,220 --> 03:19:38,420
Approving Code Amendment 2603,

2277
03:19:39,000 --> 03:19:42,240
Amending Fountain Valley Municipal Code Section 2118 130,

2278
03:19:42,780 --> 03:19:46,320
to establish citywide objective design standards for multifamily residential

2279
03:19:46,320 --> 03:19:49,240
and residential mixed use development projects.

2280
03:19:50,200 --> 03:19:52,060
Any final discussion before vote?

2281
03:19:52,700 --> 03:20:00,800
Just one of the clarifications that I'm voting note is because if the applicants is refused

2282
03:20:00,800 --> 03:20:17,800
because of the objective standard design then it's going to challenge the city and when they

2283
03:20:17,800 --> 03:20:25,000
will win on this case. I read the code already. And two CD have received. Notice from them

2284
03:20:25,000 --> 03:20:31,360
miners are in one CD is removing the standard, the objectives standard, or we design in it.

2285
03:20:32,000 --> 03:20:36,240
And but in the meantime, it causes the money to respond to the other type of game. So I don't want

2286
03:20:36,240 --> 03:20:43,560
to put or CD in that position. So I will be in favor voting for yes. If we present this objective

2287
03:20:43,560 --> 03:20:47,720
standard to HD, and you say, yep, you'll be objective standard,

2288
03:20:48,300 --> 03:20:52,420
work accepted, then a work, oh well, yes, but not into that.

2289
03:20:53,000 --> 03:20:54,320
So, Mr. Mayor, I have a question. Yes.

2290
03:20:54,500 --> 03:20:58,460
Okay, so I just received the, we, it looks like we all received the red line version now,

2291
03:20:58,840 --> 03:21:02,520
but I don't see how we can vote at this moment without, first of all, did you

2292
03:21:02,520 --> 03:21:05,800
guys have the red line version? Because there's quite a bit of red lining here,

2293
03:21:06,260 --> 03:21:09,480
and, um, I just went through it though, it's very minor, and

2294
03:21:09,480 --> 03:21:12,260
why I've been going through it too, it's, is there a particular,

2295
03:21:12,260 --> 03:21:17,280
Well, there's a lot of red talk about and we we can take my time to go through there's about ten pages

2296
03:21:18,620 --> 03:21:24,910
It's not that much. I just went through it. Yeah, well,

2297
03:21:27,830 --> 03:21:30,830
they're more developed at the developer friendly. That's for sure

2298
03:21:32,430 --> 03:21:33,790
It's all very minor.

2299
03:21:42,700 --> 03:21:48,700
I'm fine. I'll vote. Thank you. Hey, we have a person second. Please vote.

2300
03:21:53,610 --> 03:21:55,110
I have a number nine passes for one

2301
03:21:56,370 --> 03:22:04,070
Hey, when we move on to item 10, public hearing and introduction of code amendment 24-01-CA24-01,

2302
03:22:04,490 --> 03:22:11,890
precise plan 5-8-1, P-P-5-8-1, and mitigated negative declaration and mitigation monitoring,

2303
03:22:12,370 --> 03:22:18,530
reporting plan for the memorial, care, orange-coast medical center parking structure, presentation

2304
03:22:18,530 --> 03:22:20,870
by senior planner, Matt Jenkins.

2305
03:22:22,310 --> 03:22:23,070
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2306
03:22:23,070 --> 03:22:24,290
member of the City Council.

2307
03:22:27,980 --> 03:22:32,300
Before each night is the Memorial Care Orange Coast Medical Center Parking Structure Project.

2308
03:22:32,880 --> 03:22:38,700
It includes the Code Amendment 24-01 and a proposed mitigated negative declaration and

2309
03:22:38,700 --> 03:22:44,340
mitigated mitigation monitoring and reporting program for this project for Orange Coast

2310
03:22:44,340 --> 03:22:44,720
Memorial.

2311
03:22:45,340 --> 03:22:50,360
The Planning Mission previously reviewed the project and approved for a size plan number

2312
03:22:50,360 --> 03:22:57,660
581 for the project and recommended approval of the initial study M&D and mitigated monitoring

2313
03:22:57,660 --> 03:22:59,480
reporting program to you tonight.

2314
03:23:02,550 --> 03:23:05,950
So this slide shows the larger Orange Coast Memorial

2315
03:23:07,010 --> 03:23:13,830
campus at the southeast corner of Talver and Brookhurst Street consists of five buildings and one

2316
03:23:13,830 --> 03:23:20,670
existing parking structure. The proposal tonight is to demolish the existing surface parking lot

2317
03:23:20,670 --> 03:23:25,650
which is in planning area 3 on the upper left of the aerial.

2318
03:23:26,810 --> 03:23:29,170
Commonly known as the foster lot,

2319
03:23:29,810 --> 03:23:31,790
at the corner of foster and towered avenue.

2320
03:23:32,570 --> 03:23:37,910
The project proposes to demolish this surface parking lot with 2301 parking spaces

2321
03:23:37,910 --> 03:23:44,010
for a five-level parking structure for Orange Coast Memorial employees and physicians.

2322
03:23:46,400 --> 03:23:51,360
So the existing 2301 parking space parking lot,

2323
03:23:51,360 --> 03:23:57,160
is directly west of the 9900 Talbot Medical Office Building.

2324
03:23:57,240 --> 03:23:59,760
Again, at the southeast corner of Foster in Talbot Avenue.

2325
03:24:02,640 --> 03:24:05,360
The location is

2326
03:24:07,860 --> 03:24:10,480
surrounded by a different variety of different land uses

2327
03:24:10,480 --> 03:24:18,100
with a commercial to the north and west and east and south town homes to the south

2328
03:24:18,100 --> 03:24:23,300
and single family residential homes to the west and to the north across Talbot Avenue.

2329
03:24:27,010 --> 03:24:36,030
So again, the project would demolish the existing surface parking lot for the construction of a free standing parking structure, with a basement level,

2330
03:24:38,130 --> 03:24:44,690
three levels above ground and a rooftop level, four or five total levels of parking with 784 parking spaces.

2331
03:24:44,690 --> 03:24:56,890
The parking structure would have 40 EV charters and would have a pedestrian bridge connecting to the Orange Coast Memorial campus adjacent to the 9900 Talvard Medical Office building.

2332
03:25:00,350 --> 03:25:06,510
So again, the parking structure would be 784 parking spaces for Orange Coast Memorial employees.

2333
03:25:07,290 --> 03:25:15,510
Just under 300,000 square feet, the height to the rooftop of the parapet of the structure would be just over 36 feet.

2334
03:25:16,890 --> 03:25:27,770
Elvator tower, height the freestanding tower next to the Edinger Medical Group, the Talbert office building, would be just under 42 feet tall.

2335
03:25:28,210 --> 03:25:33,090
And bridge clearance over Foster Street would be over 18 feet of clearance above the roadway.

2336
03:25:34,790 --> 03:26:04,010
Here we have the site plan, entrance to the structure would be from Foster Street, from vehicles traveling south on Foster Street and making a turn right turn going west into the structure with two lanes for vehicle queuing for up to 22 cars before a gate automatic gate that will be triggered by either a license plate reader or other electronic device to let employees in.

2337
03:26:04,790 --> 03:26:08,390
Again, five levels with 784 bargaining spaces.

2338
03:26:13,410 --> 03:26:16,390
The basement level consists of 176 parking spaces,

2339
03:26:17,290 --> 03:26:23,990
and the largest floor area of the structure, which also includes an 9800 square feet of storage for the hospital.

2340
03:26:25,290 --> 03:26:29,330
The basement level is important part of the design because it screens.

2341
03:26:29,830 --> 03:26:35,430
Part of the structure from view, reducing its overall height, adjacent to other land uses,

2342
03:26:36,430 --> 03:26:43,730
and reduces that mass while being able to provide the parking that the project seeks.

2343
03:26:46,590 --> 03:26:52,830
Back to the first level of the structure, which consists of 102, 62 parking spaces.

2344
03:26:53,770 --> 03:26:59,990
Again, vehicles will be traveling with two lanes for the queue to automatic gates entering.

2345
03:26:59,990 --> 03:27:09,050
Exiting for this feature will be right turn only for eastbound talbor avenue travel.

2346
03:27:09,490 --> 03:27:22,390
Again, there will be gates automatic gates for vehicles that will be able to be triggered by either license plate readers or other electronic devices to make for a speedier exit for employees exiting.

2347
03:27:23,410 --> 03:27:33,870
The first level also, the first level, also has the structure was designed with walls built

2348
03:27:33,870 --> 03:27:39,330
along the first floor to prevent mid-block crop, destiny and crossings on Foster Street.

2349
03:27:39,730 --> 03:27:41,830
Currently, it's familiar with a lot.

2350
03:27:42,750 --> 03:27:51,210
Visitor parking is permitted over here, and there's no stripe crosswalk across Foster Street

2351
03:27:51,210 --> 03:28:00,360
further south of Talbert, so there's a lot of unpermitted pedestrian crossings quite a few.

2352
03:28:00,680 --> 03:28:05,740
And so this city has recognized this problem and through the design changes to that,

2353
03:28:06,680 --> 03:28:10,380
some restrictions with all perimeter walls,

2354
03:28:11,080 --> 03:28:15,240
will channel pedestrians towards the crosswalk at Talbert and Foster Street,

2355
03:28:15,400 --> 03:28:18,100
so they can use a signalized crosswalk at Talbert,

2356
03:28:18,100 --> 03:28:21,200
or if they're parking on the upper levels,

2357
03:28:21,720 --> 03:28:25,340
we'll be directed to the pedestrian bridge

2358
03:28:25,340 --> 03:28:28,240
that's highlighted in the blue on the first level,

2359
03:28:28,860 --> 03:28:30,660
to provide access to the campus

2360
03:28:30,660 --> 03:28:34,140
at a more central location closer to where

2361
03:28:34,140 --> 03:28:36,760
the existing unpromoted crosswalk is today.

2362
03:28:39,840 --> 03:28:44,560
So our second level has 160 spaces

2363
03:28:44,560 --> 03:28:47,800
with about 56,000 square feet.

2364
03:28:47,800 --> 03:28:55,460
Now since the first design iteration of the project and through meetings and planning

2365
03:28:55,460 --> 03:29:04,240
commission input the project was revised and this second level incorporates that revision

2366
03:29:04,240 --> 03:29:12,820
and you can see a 36 setback for the second level to the west property line which is those

2367
03:29:12,820 --> 03:29:17,640
homes on lemon street, the backyards of this single family homes. So again, on the second

2368
03:29:17,640 --> 03:29:25,120
level, we have an increase setback of 36 feet to the property line. And that setback carries

2369
03:29:25,120 --> 03:29:34,460
on the third level as well, a 36 foot setback on the west side and this will allow for a reduced

2370
03:29:34,460 --> 03:29:41,260
massing and that reduced presence of the building facing the homes on the west side on lemon street.

2371
03:29:46,380 --> 03:29:54,520
Again, this is a third level with the 160 parking spaces being a copy of the second level and now the rooftop level

2372
03:29:55,120 --> 03:29:59,680
Which has less than a hundred and twenty six bases, but a much larger

2373
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:05,360
Set back to the residential of 64 feet on the west side.

2374
03:30:09,050 --> 03:30:12,770
So, the part of the project, in order to allow for the development,

2375
03:30:14,130 --> 03:30:20,470
Code Amendment 241 is necessary because the existing specific plan anticipated an expansion

2376
03:30:20,470 --> 03:30:25,310
of the current parking structure rather than construction of a new structure on the foster lot.

2377
03:30:25,310 --> 03:30:31,210
The amendment updates the updates and makes changes to this plan to allow this parking

2378
03:30:31,210 --> 03:30:33,510
structure in the planning area 3.

2379
03:30:34,150 --> 03:30:40,310
It also proposes to reduce the setbacks on Talbot Avenue for the structure establishing

2380
03:30:40,310 --> 03:30:46,870
a height maximum for the structure and vertical elements such as elevator towers.

2381
03:30:47,330 --> 03:30:52,770
It also updates the parking standards of the specific plan to be in line with the current

2382
03:30:52,770 --> 03:30:54,310
parking standards for the city.

2383
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So as I mentioned, the setbacks, the existing setback for a Talbot is, I believe it's 50 feet,

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03:31:03,220 --> 03:31:09,860
so the specific plan had to be amended in order to accommodate the proposed setback at 23 feet,

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03:31:11,420 --> 03:31:18,020
Bon Talbot. The structure would be setbacks, 17 feet to foster, and on the west side,

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03:31:18,320 --> 03:31:24,320
18 feet on the first level, the second and third levels would be 36 feet at the top at 64

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03:31:24,320 --> 03:31:28,580
and on the south side, all levels will be set back,

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03:31:28,900 --> 03:31:32,420
60, 60 feet to the Nervous, the town homes to the south.

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03:31:36,210 --> 03:31:41,570
And this slide on the left side shows the original design

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03:31:41,570 --> 03:31:44,790
with all three levels being the exact same footprint,

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03:31:45,690 --> 03:31:48,810
and with the 18 foot set back to the single family homes

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03:31:48,810 --> 03:31:49,970
on one and three.

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03:31:50,850 --> 03:31:55,230
After several community meetings and a planning commission meeting,

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The study session in April, August, the applicant came back with a revised, tiered design,

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03:32:02,770 --> 03:32:08,090
minimizing the massing, again, towards the Homes on Land and Street.

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03:32:08,490 --> 03:32:14,990
And this section shows this proposal with the revision to the second and third floor,

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03:32:15,030 --> 03:32:20,350
and then the top level with a 64 foot set back to the residents to the west.

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03:32:23,500 --> 03:32:27,480
additional comments from the planning commission. One was about the stairwell location, the

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03:32:27,480 --> 03:32:34,520
picture on the left side shows exposed stairwell adjacent to the single family homes. And

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03:32:34,520 --> 03:32:41,740
with the tiered revision, the stairwell was also relocated to area farther away and so people

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03:32:41,740 --> 03:32:47,620
will not be able to stop at the top of the stairs and have visibility over the single family

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03:32:47,620 --> 03:32:48,980
homes in our backyards.

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03:32:51,770 --> 03:32:56,230
This slide shows again shows this increase that back from the first

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03:32:56,230 --> 03:33:02,150
middle showing the 18-foot set back to the west property line and with the revisions showing

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03:33:03,450 --> 03:33:10,110
the vehicles on the first level on the picture there on ground level will still be at the 18-foot

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03:33:10,110 --> 03:33:15,810
set back over the structure. You see the second level structure and their level structure will be

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03:33:16,590 --> 03:33:22,810
and then with additional 28 feet, you get 264 feet for the top level for a setback.

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03:33:25,340 --> 03:33:31,380
And this is another section showing that revision from the 18th of a setback to the increased

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03:33:31,380 --> 03:33:34,460
setbacks from second and third and fourth levels.

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03:33:40,800 --> 03:33:49,340
So additional elements to screen and buffer the project from residential, the applicant's proposed

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03:33:49,340 --> 03:33:55,080
approximately 15 trees on the south side that will be intended to create vertical

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03:33:55,080 --> 03:33:59,700
screening and more mature over time as in the pictures of the village

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03:33:59,700 --> 03:34:00,340
traded

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03:34:03,760 --> 03:34:09,880
shows at planting and five years after planting on the south side

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03:34:09,880 --> 03:34:14,960
this view would be looking east. So if you were in the backyards of a

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03:34:15,300 --> 03:34:19,400
home on lemon street and if you were to look east this is the rendering of

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03:34:19,400 --> 03:34:30,820
And that should look like this view looks towards those backyards of the single family

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03:34:30,820 --> 03:34:31,820
homes on Lennon.

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03:34:31,960 --> 03:34:35,440
This view is looking west down the access road to the parking structure.

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03:34:38,790 --> 03:34:43,930
And this view shows a view looking north of the structure.

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03:34:44,170 --> 03:34:49,810
So if you were at the town homes to the south, this is a proposed rendering of what that

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03:34:49,810 --> 03:34:57,230
look like with the mature trees after five years of planting and in its 66 feet set back

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03:34:57,230 --> 03:34:59,050
to the homes here.

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03:35:01,530 --> 03:35:04,450
The table provided here reflects the

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03:35:06,620 --> 03:35:08,580
current parking situation at the hospital

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03:35:09,340 --> 03:35:16,500
and where the existing parking is located. It's important to note that there's an existing five-level

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03:35:16,500 --> 03:35:28,100
parking structure with 942 parking spaces, this proposal would shift the parking and that

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03:35:29,480 --> 03:35:33,960
employee parking and that existing parking lot would transition over to this proposal

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03:35:33,960 --> 03:35:38,140
a lot on foster street, freeing up space and the existing parking structure for more

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03:35:38,140 --> 03:35:39,340
patients and visitors.

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03:35:41,700 --> 03:35:45,220
So the parking is why we have different locations of the parking.

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03:35:46,020 --> 03:35:52,960
Zone D is Zone D and two other areas are the areas where they will maintain the valet

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03:35:52,960 --> 03:36:02,640
after the proposed structure and so there is currently 1353 parking spaces provided on the property.

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03:36:03,520 --> 03:36:09,360
All right, Taylor here. Now keeping in line with the city's parking requirements,

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03:36:09,360 --> 03:36:18,760
A one parking space for 200 square feet for medical, the table reflects the proposed parking

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03:36:18,760 --> 03:36:26,960
requirements for the specific plan at a 1585 parking spaces required with an existing parking

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03:36:26,960 --> 03:36:39,340
supply of 153, there is a deficit of parking after the proposed structure that would be

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03:36:39,340 --> 03:36:49,020
surplus parking, you get a total number of 379 surplus parking spaces for the entire Orange Coast medical center campus.

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03:36:53,880 --> 03:36:58,200
As I previously mentioned, the original

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03:37:02,300 --> 03:37:13,680
specific plan has the future parking called out for as an expansion of the existing parking structure.

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03:37:13,680 --> 03:37:21,720
What drives the need for this parking structure actually is, in 2007, the City Council approved the

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03:37:22,380 --> 03:37:25,320
tall patient carepability that you've probably seen.

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03:37:26,100 --> 03:37:31,420
And with that project, it was approved in phases, phase two was an expansion and remodel

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03:37:31,420 --> 03:37:37,720
of the emergency room and phase three was parking to be constructed at a undetermined time.

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03:37:37,720 --> 03:37:39,300
Well, that time is now,

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03:37:41,340 --> 03:37:44,900
and Orange Custon Memorial has, over the years, looked at expanding

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03:37:44,900 --> 03:37:53,500
the existing structure to the east towards Brooker Street and found that there's many utilities

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03:37:53,500 --> 03:37:59,160
underground that would be costly to move the proximity to the newer patient care pavilion building

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03:38:00,700 --> 03:38:07,040
would possibly require the parking structure or the patient care pavilion building to be modified

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03:38:07,040 --> 03:38:10,180
because of the proximity to the parking structure.

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03:38:12,260 --> 03:38:14,560
If they're to add to the existing parking structure,

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03:38:15,520 --> 03:38:18,140
you have to keep in mind the existing parking structure was built

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03:38:18,960 --> 03:38:23,080
in early 90s and before a lot of building code

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03:38:23,080 --> 03:38:27,540
changed structurally so there may be significant upgrades

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03:38:27,540 --> 03:38:31,040
that they would have to do to the existing parking structure to be

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03:38:31,040 --> 03:38:32,660
to co-compliance today.

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03:38:33,560 --> 03:38:37,980
So those things present challenges that could be extremely

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03:38:37,980 --> 03:38:41,840
cost-per-hitted and just not workable for them.

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03:38:42,480 --> 03:38:45,780
And so they proposed the parking structure on this foster law here.

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03:38:53,300 --> 03:38:57,820
The Americans had several outreach meetings in September

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03:38:58,320 --> 03:39:02,000
of last year and March of earlier this year.

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03:39:02,480 --> 03:39:05,500
Memorial Care did provide 500 letters and they included it

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03:39:05,500 --> 03:39:11,140
the Planning Commission staff report and presented that to the Planning Commission meeting.

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03:39:11,380 --> 03:39:18,100
That was also included with the Planning Commission staff report, which I provided a link to you in

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03:39:18,100 --> 03:39:25,320
support of the structure. Again, through these public outreach and meetings, the applicant

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03:39:25,320 --> 03:39:32,540
revised their plan. They went from 862 parking spaces for their structure and with the tiered

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03:39:32,540 --> 03:39:37,980
approach being mindful of the homes to the west, we reduced it to 784 parking spaces.

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03:39:42,280 --> 03:39:51,320
So as a part of the project staff consulted with an ultra-systems environmental to review the

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03:39:52,830 --> 03:39:53,750
project,

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03:39:56,010 --> 03:40:00,690
ultra-systems and Michael Miller, which is your tonight, prepared a mitigated negative

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03:40:01,870 --> 03:40:03,190
deck and

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03:40:05,680 --> 03:40:06,980
MMRP for the project.

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03:40:06,980 --> 03:40:11,100
That public review period was from March 3rd of this year to April 2nd.

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03:40:11,200 --> 03:40:12,980
We received 16 comment letters,

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03:40:22,340 --> 03:40:25,800
so the M&D identified areas of potential concern in

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03:40:25,800 --> 03:40:35,740
cellar areas and were able to be found to reduce where the impacts were found to be reduced to less

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03:40:35,740 --> 03:40:42,000
insignificant with mitigation and those were in areas of biological resources, cultural resources,

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03:40:42,000 --> 03:40:44,600
This is geology, soils, and tribal culture resources.

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03:40:47,550 --> 03:40:53,470
And again, the NMRP was prepared to ensure the implementation of measures were carried out

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03:40:53,470 --> 03:40:54,130
through the project.

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03:40:55,030 --> 03:41:00,670
Then additional areas have concerned to staff were reviewed in the environmental analysis

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03:41:00,670 --> 03:41:03,070
that were included under as follows.

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03:41:04,030 --> 03:41:12,170
So for aesthetics, we looked at lighting for aesthetics and later on with the design changes

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03:41:12,170 --> 03:41:18,330
and the Plenty Commission meeting last month. I'll talk about it later. The applicant has

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03:41:18,330 --> 03:41:20,830
revised the rooftop lighting for the structure.

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03:41:24,110 --> 03:41:28,610
I, in aesthetics, one of the components to review

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03:41:28,610 --> 03:41:35,590
aesthetics was the impacts of shadows to the homes. Now, the sun being in the south sky,

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03:41:36,410 --> 03:41:43,430
the shadows, largely affects homes to the west and the applicant provided a shadow study.

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03:41:43,430 --> 03:41:44,270
Over

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03:41:46,570 --> 03:42:03,250
several times, showing the shadow effects over there, so a significant impact of shadows would be if it is casting over more than four hours during the hours of 90m to 5pm, during these times,

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03:42:07,050 --> 03:42:17,250
and at no point does it, are the shadows more impactful than four hours at any time, and as shown several times,

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03:42:17,250 --> 03:42:28,730
of the year in this equinoxin census that after 10 a.m. there should be no shadows on the west side

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03:42:28,730 --> 03:42:35,170
up from the structure onto the properties on lemon street and there is some shadow

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03:42:35,170 --> 03:42:40,490
effects you see in these images and a lot of that is the landscaping that will provide

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03:42:41,150 --> 03:42:47,250
provided as an additional buffer on the west side and on the south side as well.

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03:42:50,280 --> 03:42:58,220
So the top left being what the shadow effects would be at 7 a.m. and bottom right showing 10 a.m.

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03:42:58,720 --> 03:43:06,920
in June that there would be no shadow effects from the structure onto the residential homes to the west after 10 a.m.

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03:43:11,110 --> 03:43:12,930
So, with respect to transportation,

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03:43:15,210 --> 03:43:17,370
this being a parking structure project

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03:43:18,110 --> 03:43:20,950
for an existing hospital for existing employees,

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03:43:21,890 --> 03:43:25,730
there will not be any increase in trips to the structure,

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03:43:26,090 --> 03:43:28,230
because it's not generating any new trips.

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03:43:29,030 --> 03:43:33,990
Therefore, since it's not intended to increase hospital staffing or services

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03:43:33,990 --> 03:43:34,970
or the intensity,

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03:43:37,410 --> 03:43:39,350
the project vehicle miles travel

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03:43:39,350 --> 03:43:44,070
document indicated that the project would screen out because it doesn't produce any new

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03:43:44,070 --> 03:43:52,590
trips in order for a project to screen out. It would have to produce less than 110 trips to

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03:43:52,590 --> 03:43:58,750
the project a day. If we produce more than additional transportation analysis would be

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03:43:58,750 --> 03:44:04,950
warranted. The applicant did provide a transportation impact analysis as a part of the project

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03:44:04,950 --> 03:44:12,350
along with a parking management plan, and a parking study to back up their support for the

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03:44:12,350 --> 03:44:12,770
structure.

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03:44:15,540 --> 03:44:19,680
So, with respect to the transportation, we look at the ingress and egress of the structure,

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03:44:19,900 --> 03:44:27,660
and as I previously mentioned, ingress will be a foster street from southbound vehicles, traveling

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03:44:27,660 --> 03:44:30,540
southbound on a foster street from Talbert.

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03:44:30,540 --> 03:44:38,040
There will be a space for approximately 22 cars on the two lanes and the drive up to there with a gate access.

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03:44:38,720 --> 03:44:59,760
So that every 8 to 9 seconds, or I mean every 60 seconds, more than 8 to 9 vehicles could be going through that analyze or that number comes from analysis that did not take into consideration any license plate readers or electronic devices that would speed up the process of the gate operation.

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03:45:01,140 --> 03:45:29,980
The gate operations were operated a little bit differently than maybe a fast food drive through, or a structure that is open to the public, because this structure is for employees only, so as employees returned to work, and on a daily basis they'll get familiar with the structure and the operations, and it should be a little bit quicker than your average open to the public parking structure would be familiar with operations on the territory.

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03:45:29,980 --> 03:45:31,160
So,

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03:45:34,460 --> 03:45:38,240
ultra-systems provided the response to comments,

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03:45:40,800 --> 03:45:42,360
as a part of the environmental analysis.

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03:45:43,220 --> 03:45:49,840
This slide shows recommendations from the Planning Commission and based on public comments.

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03:45:51,200 --> 03:45:59,540
During the Planning Commission, it was suggested that pedestrian safety elements be added to the gate

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03:45:59,540 --> 03:46:07,660
to the sidewalk for pedestrian safety and for vehicle safety. That the tower and

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03:46:07,660 --> 03:46:12,700
foster traffic signal be reviewed in the timing be reviewed after

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03:46:12,700 --> 03:46:19,040
occupancy of the structure to with public works to see if there's any traffic

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03:46:19,040 --> 03:46:29,060
signaling that could be changed to help traffic if there is an issue that not the

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03:46:29,060 --> 03:46:37,940
Hospital also provide post occupancy parking monitoring within 12 months to see how the effects

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03:46:37,940 --> 03:46:44,820
of the structure and operations are affecting the neighborhood and if we need to add any additional

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03:46:44,820 --> 03:46:46,560
measures that

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03:46:48,580 --> 03:46:53,100
would alter operations. Also a recommending condition from the Planet Commission

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03:46:53,100 --> 03:47:02,520
is at the OCMC shell implement the approved parking management plan and this one of the elements

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03:47:02,520 --> 03:47:08,300
to the parking management plan and circulation that I forgot to mention from the structure

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03:47:08,300 --> 03:47:16,480
to prohibit unwanted vehicle traffic traveling from Philip Street and Foster Street, Philip Street,

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03:47:16,480 --> 03:47:23,220
connects Valkyr Street on the south side, which does connect to Talbert.

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03:47:24,640 --> 03:47:33,740
We proposed for the site modifications to the driveway entrance to the structure to where it would be prohibited from a car,

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03:47:33,740 --> 03:47:46,200
say, driving from Philips Street, snaking up, foster and trying to make a left turn, northbound, left turn into the structure where we proposed the driveway

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03:47:46,200 --> 03:47:51,980
modifications so vehicles would not be able to do so. So let's prevent more traffic coming

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03:47:51,980 --> 03:47:58,080
in off Phillips and then on to foster going through the townhome property into the structure.

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03:47:58,960 --> 03:48:02,400
So keeping all the traffic on Talver and foster solely,

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03:48:06,070 --> 03:48:08,670
that goes with the construction traffic.

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03:48:10,070 --> 03:48:18,590
I'm sorry, one of the conditions with a construction plan for parking during construction.

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03:48:18,590 --> 03:48:27,390
and also a neighborhood notification plan of construction activities of when those would be taking place.

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03:48:28,250 --> 03:48:35,730
And another condition for lighting and glare for the parking structure after occupancy.

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03:48:37,210 --> 03:48:45,310
This slide highlights some of those operational elements that the planning commission asked for such as a

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03:48:45,310 --> 03:48:53,930
traffic calming devices, just basically warning elements to warn pedestrian to warn vehicles

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03:48:53,930 --> 03:49:01,050
exiting of that situation. Public works review this and it will be a condition of approval

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03:49:01,050 --> 03:49:07,940
and as a part of their plan check that this vehicle is part of that. And respect to lighting.

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03:49:08,540 --> 03:49:16,660
So this is a photometric plan of the rooftop lighting deck. The original proposal had over 20

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03:49:17,820 --> 03:49:28,480
Polites at 14.5 feet tall on the exterior edges of the structure and six in the middle

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03:49:28,480 --> 03:49:36,600
as you see here. So in this photometric plan here, the little black marks are where the

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03:49:36,600 --> 03:49:43,640
lights will be. So to see the six in the middle are Polites in the middle. After the planning

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03:49:43,640 --> 03:49:50,040
mission meeting last month, lighting was brought up and the applicant proposed to alternatives

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03:49:50,040 --> 03:49:56,640
for lighting and this one keeps six lights in the middle of the structure on the rooftop,

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03:49:57,420 --> 03:50:03,220
but increases the height to 18 feet and the lights on the exterior will be wall mounted

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03:50:03,220 --> 03:50:08,820
lights showing on the image on the bottom left so there will be mounted on the parapet not

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03:50:08,820 --> 03:50:14,560
visible to anybody from the exterior of the structure so nearly life that would be visible

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03:50:14,560 --> 03:50:20,740
would be these poles that would be to be taller than 14 and a half they would be 18 feet

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03:50:20,740 --> 03:50:27,140
but through the photometric plan proves that sufficient lighting would be able to be provided

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03:50:27,140 --> 03:50:32,560
on the rooftop deck and then you see it on the border on the west and east west and south sides

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03:50:32,560 --> 03:50:39,300
the photometrics meaning the amount of light that is being produced reads at zero on those sides

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03:50:39,820 --> 03:50:46,580
and the second option that the applicant provided was six lights but they would be at 28 feet tall to

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03:50:46,580 --> 03:50:59,260
provide that lighting that's needed for visibility on the top and a 28 foot light pole on top of a

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03:50:59,260 --> 03:51:08,460
very tall and probably the visibility of a 28-foot tallite pole would be visible from farther

2564
03:51:08,460 --> 03:51:14,660
away from the exterior of the structure. So meaning down the street you would probably

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03:51:14,660 --> 03:51:21,380
be able to see a 28-foot light pole a lot more than the proposed 18-foot light pole in the middle

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03:51:21,380 --> 03:51:22,120
of the structure.

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03:51:24,940 --> 03:51:28,500
As I mentioned, parking during construction as a condition of approval.

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03:51:29,800 --> 03:51:35,340
Orange Cross Memorial has an agreement with living water's church that's directly across

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03:51:35,340 --> 03:51:40,060
the street that has 111 parking spaces that they could accommodate construction work

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03:51:40,060 --> 03:51:48,660
of parking and for employee parking during this time because the foster lot will be demolished

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03:51:48,660 --> 03:51:54,400
and so that would be taking away to an 31 parking spaces during this time. Orange Cross Memorial

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03:51:54,400 --> 03:52:00,060
has already begun running a shuttle service from their office buildings to the north of us here

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03:52:00,060 --> 03:52:08,180
at the 1700 Brookhurst Street and their three office buildings with sufficient parking over there

2574
03:52:08,700 --> 03:52:15,260
with three shuttles running at different times a day starting at 5.30 a.m. to shuttle employees over to

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03:52:15,260 --> 03:52:18,540
the hospital during the construction phase.

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03:52:20,600 --> 03:52:24,320
So with that staff recommends the city council adopt a

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03:52:24,320 --> 03:52:30,700
resolution, improving mitigated negative declaration and mitigation, monitoring and reporting program,

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03:52:31,320 --> 03:52:36,460
and introducing ordinance and approved code amendment 2401 to amend the Orange Coast

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03:52:36,460 --> 03:52:41,020
Medical Center specific plan to allow for the development of the free standing parking

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03:52:41,020 --> 03:52:46,100
structure and planning areas three of the specific plan. And that concludes my report.

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03:52:46,240 --> 03:52:48,940
The applicant is here and I'm available for any questions.

2582
03:52:49,380 --> 03:52:54,100
Thank you, Matt. I think what we should do is move into the public caring. I'm seeing at least

2583
03:52:54,100 --> 03:52:58,260
twenty speakers. Yeah, okay. So I'm going to open the public hearing.

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03:53:05,840 --> 03:53:07,020
First public speaker,

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03:53:07,480 --> 03:53:07,920
Gary Jones.

2586
03:53:18,500 --> 03:53:20,040
Would you like the applicant to speak?

2587
03:53:22,340 --> 03:53:25,240
First or? Yeah, okay. That would be great.

2588
03:53:26,280 --> 03:53:28,120
That would be good. Please approach the podium.

2589
03:53:31,900 --> 03:53:33,080
I'm trying a good slide.

2590
03:53:35,520 --> 03:53:36,300
Go to a sit-on.

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03:53:43,870 --> 03:53:49,790
Good evening, Mayor Kunine and members of the council. My name is Emily Randall and I have the

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03:53:49,790 --> 03:53:54,670
to serve as the Chief Executive Officer of Memorial Care Orange Coast Medical Center.

2593
03:53:55,670 --> 03:53:59,670
Thank you for providing me with the opportunity to speak before you tonight

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03:53:59,670 --> 03:54:04,610
about this critical project for the Fountain Valley Community and those we serve.

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03:54:05,390 --> 03:54:10,070
Memorial Care Orange Coast Medical Center is honored to provide valuable health services to Fountain Valley

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and the surrounding community.

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Our 30 year legacy of clinical excellence is built on a foundation of trust, expertise, and patient-centered care.

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We have always believed that a great hospital should also be a good neighbor.

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This means addressing the needs of the people we care for inside our medical facilities

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while respecting the needs of the surrounding community as well.

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Our success and continued demand for services have created a parking shorter shortage that

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is stressful for those who are coming to seek care for family members or for family members

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visiting a loved one.

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The lack of available parking has also created issues for neighbors when visitors and staff are forced to find parking off campus.

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Despite offering free valet services, adding additional valet stations and other parking management strategies, the demand for parking far exceeds available spaces.

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This is supported by the parking demand study, the city parking requirements and the daily experience of patients and visitors circling and circling.

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campus in search of a place to park.

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When we began planning this parking structure, we started by reaching out to our neighbors.

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Over the past two years, we've worked collaboratively with the city and the community and

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the project has evolved in response to that input.

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These efforts are reflected in the more than 500 letters of support submitted to the planning

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commission by residents and stakeholders who recognize the need for this project.

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Early in the process, we made the decision to dedicate the parking structure for staff and physicians with access restricted through a key card badge system.

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This approach was intentional for two reasons.

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First, it allows patients and visitors to park closer to the medical offices and facilities improving convenience during what can often be a stressful time.

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Second, by limiting the structure to employees, we can better manage operations, reduce

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constant and in-out traffic, and ensure accountability, since all users are identified

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and identifiable through their access batch.

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It's also important to note that this project is not introduced any new services or programs

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for the OCMC Hospital campus, and therefore will not generate any new trips.

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The city's parking codes require 1585 spaces for the existing uses.

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However, that calculation does not account for the operational realities of running a hospital 24-7.

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Case in point is our shift overlap.

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So the majority of our employees are nurses who work 12-hour shifts.

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The day shift comes in at 7am and goes to their unit, but they can't start their work until they've received report from the outgoing shift.

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So, the the day shift comes in, the night shift gives report, the hand off about, about all the patients that they've taken care of, and then the night shift leaves.

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So, for at least 30 minutes and sometimes longer there is double the nurses on our parking, in our parking lot.

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just don't have enough space with what the city parking codes require to do that shift

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hand-off. So, definitely creates temporary peaks in our parking demand. To address

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these real conditions, the proposed structure includes approximately 300 spaces above the minimum

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code requirement. These spaces are not for growth in services, but to accommodate those existing

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operational needs.

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Finally, this project fulfills both the city's requirements and the

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commitment that we made when the patient care pavilion was approved back in 2007. Through

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two community open houses and countless meetings with the surrounding neighbors, we made

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significant modifications based on the feedback and ideas that were shared through these

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conversations and meetings. The modifications include, as I mentioned earlier, restricting

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the structure to staff, physician, and volunteer parking only with badge-controlled access.

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Lowering the structure by placing one floor below grade to reduce the overall height, removing

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a planned green belt walkway along the southern part of the property to reduce the opportunity

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for folks to set up any type of lounging, adding a pedestrian bridge so that staff, physicians,

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and volunteers could safely cost foster without interfering with vehicular traffic that has

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been a long-standing problem that this is really the only way that we can fix.

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Expanding the entry to accommodate approximately 23 vehicles with two lanes for stacking

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to ensure traffic will not back up on foster.

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We enhance the landscaping along the west and southern borders to provide a stronger green

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buffer.

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We've improved the circulation and convenience for patients by having staff use one designated

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area for parking and patients and visitors using the existing parking structure and nearby

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close-up surface parking areas.

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And we directed, we're directing the ex-sing traffic to Tauber to improve the ingress and egress

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without affecting the neighborhood streets.

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In addition, continued dialogue with residents led to further refinements.

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We increased the setbacks along the west edge by terracing or stair stepping that Matt

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discussed the upper levels to reduce perceived height, bulk, and

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And shading impacts on the neighboring residences. We eliminated the parking facing the west edge at upper levels to improve privacy for adjacent residences.

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We expanded the landscape buffer along the west edge. We shifted the staircase along the northwest corner of the parking structure to ensure privacy for adjacent residences.

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And we added a Choker Curb and signage at the parking structure entrance on Foster to prohibit left turns into the parking structure.

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These refinements reflect our commitment.

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I think that's the right slide that I'm showing you. Sorry. We won't worry about it.

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These refinements reflect our commitment to listening and responding to community input that collaborative approach continue during the planning commissions review of the project.

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On April 22nd, we presented the project to the Planning Commission, which voted unanimously to recommend approval.

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During its discussion, commissioners offered several recommendations related to rooftop roof deck, lighting, signage, site access and pedestrian safety.

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We appreciated that input, and in response shared two alternative roof deck lighting plans.

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No idling, signage concepts, a license plate, reader system, design to facilitate efficient employee access into the structure and enhance pedestrian crossing features and signage at the Talbot Avenue exit.

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We are pleased to continue working with the city staff to evaluate these recommendations and incorporate appropriate refinements into the project.

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The last slide I was going to show was all of our staff who are many of them behind me and who are behind this project.

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They know it's what the city or you're going to get me to where I need to be.

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Okay, that's the picture.

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Wait, stop.

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Don't touch it.

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Okay, there we are, that many of the staff that care for patients every day are pictured

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in this picture because regardless of facilities, parking structures, technology, it all

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comes down to people and the people that take care of this community are pictured in this

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picture and are here with me tonight.

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This project is critical to meeting the parking needs of our existing medical campus, honoring

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the commitments we've made to the community and ensuring that we can continue providing outstanding

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health services to Vountain Valley.

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At the end of the day, our goal is simple to provide exceptional care while also being good

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neighbors.

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The project helps us achieve both.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you so much.

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There's been a request to actually take a break, maybe about five minutes, recess before

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public speaking, for open the public hearing.

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So let's take a five-minute recess to be back at 9.25.

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Thank you.

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Take their seats.

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As a reminder, we are on item 10.

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We'll actually do that.

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So we are now at the public hearing stage.

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All right.

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I'll open the public hearing.

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Are there any requests to speak?

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Just a couple.

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Just a couple.

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First speaker, Gary Jones.

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Okay.

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next speaker would be Tamwin.

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Welcome. Hello, good evening, Americanine,

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Vice Mayor Harper, council members, buoy, grandads, consenting. My name is Tamwin. I'm a

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fountain valley resident, local business owner. Also we're in the head of host family here in

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fountain valley for Kiko. And very proud to be the incoming Vice Chair for this hospital.

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I'm here to tonight, respectfully ask for your approval of the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure project.

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This hospital is much more than if this hospital is a non-profit institution that served this community for more than 30 years,

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providing exceptional health care while continually giving back to the residents of Fountain Valley and our surrounding communities.

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It's commitment that commitment service to is one of the reasons why I first joined this

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hospital's community benefit oversight community as volunteer before later serving on

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its board of directors.

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Mission of the hospital is simple, but profound.

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It ensures access to health care.

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That means the emergency care when seconds matter means outpatient inpatient services when

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families need it need support.

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It means preventive screenings, physical therapy, maternal health services, countless other programs that help people live healthier and happier lives.

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For me, this is not just professional, it's also very personal.

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My mother receives care here at Orange Coast Medical Center.

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My wife Christine worked there as a pharmacist.

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Our three children were all born there.

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Earlier this year my uncle spent his final moments in last breath.

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surrounded by very compassionate caregivers at this hospital.

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Like so many families in our community,

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my family's experience both the joyful beginnings,

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as well as difficult goodbyes that happen within this hospital.

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At 30-year legacy of clinical excellence

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built on trust, expertise, compassion, and patient-centered care,

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which is the best healthcare professionals

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and doctors, nurses, and service staff, there's amazing.

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As a board member, I also have a responsibility

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to help ensure health care remains accessible, not only just for our

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family residents, but our patients and families of travel here every day

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from our neighboring communities that seek care here. I also want to recognize the

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person who presented earlier, Emily Randall. She's a recently appointed CEO of Orange

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Coast Medical Center. Emily is an exceptional leader. You just like her predecessor,

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Marcia Manker, who they genuinely care about our community. This community for years,

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They've worked closely with city staff, neighbors, community members, and stakeholders to listen to concerns and address them thoughtfully and respectfully.

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Emily is shown up for this community. I've got to observe that for myself.

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Her commitment reflected in more than the 500 letters of support submitted by a resident's patients, seniors, physicians, nurses, and employees who understand the importance of this project.

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She listened. The hospital listens in the project is evolved to what we got today.

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Damn. I'm sorry. Okay, I'll take you. Well, thank you for your time, leadership, and your consideration, and approval of this project.

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Thank you.

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Come along.

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Good evening, Mayor Queen, Vice Mayor Harper, City Council.

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Thank you for the opportunity to voice my support for the parking structure at Orange Coast Medical Center.

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Most of you know me for those who don't.

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I am Linda Balani's husband, Prem Balani.

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I'm proud to live in Fountain Valley with my wife for over 30 years.

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We are also active in our community and serve as volunteers with various organization in Fountain Valley and other communities.

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We live next to the hospital campus on BirdCourt in the Mariposa community and adjacent to the proposed parking structure.

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It is true this city is a nice place to live to have access to excellent health care, schools,

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and the city staff that responds to the needs of its residents.

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Like a good community partner, my neighbor Orange Coast Medical Center has been delivering

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on their promise to provide excellent healthcare.

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The hospital and its staff have taken care of me and my family over the years.

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I have seen firsthand how the team of healthcare professionals led by compassion and deliver

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quality medical care.

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I recently went through a medical issue which required me and my wife to go to the facility

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3 times a week along with numerous doctor appointments over span of 6 months.

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My dad also spent his last few days at the hospital.

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While I live in walking distance of the hospital, I was able to walk to most of my appointments.

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Others in my group, or visiting the hospital, or to the doctor's appointments, are not

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times a week, and if you have been in that position, you know how difficult it is.

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The hospital leadership team has been thoughtful and work closely with the found value

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residents and neighbors of the hospital to listen and continue to make adjustments to

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the parking structure, design, to address their concerns around landscaping, easements,

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security, shadows, noise, and traffic.

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Today I ask you to approve the Orange Coast Medical Center

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Parking Structure to approve access to health services

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for patients, caregivers, residents, and hospital staff.

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Thank you for your time.

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Cueber Wong?

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Welcome.

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Good evening.

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Mayor of Kenan, Vice Mayor Harper, and members of the City Council.

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Thank you for this opportunity to share my support for the Orange County Orange Coast Medical Center Parking Structure.

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My name is Dr. Hubert Wong. I'm the chair of the Emergency Department at Orange Coast Medical Center.

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And I've had the privilege of serving the community caring for this community for over 20 years.

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I want to particularly thank the city for their support for the expansion of our emergency department back in 2019,

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right in the nick of time before the COVID pandemic kit.

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It provided us critical capacity to really be able to care for this community.

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And in the, you know, just a few years since, it's just,

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I just find it absolutely remarkable that we now serve over 50,000 patients a year

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through our emergency department.

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Our emergency department, of course, is open, you know, 24-7.

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And in the emergency department, we are seeing patients that sometimes end up being

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charts sometimes being sometimes they're admitted. And regardless, they have concerned

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family, friends, caregivers that want to attend to them. And one of the biggest challenges

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that we hear constantly is how they're circling around the parking lot, trying to find

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parking, trying to get to their loved one, trying to get to the bedside. For us, as providers,

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it's especially vital that we see family and friends and caregivers there because sometimes they

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provide absolutely critical information.

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And we see these people in some of their most vulnerable and stressful moments.

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And so this parking structure really will go a long way to serving the needs of the community

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to allow patients to be able to park in the existing parking structure and be able to get

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to where they need to go quickly.

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And at the same time for staff and for physicians and nurses really to be able to get where

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they need to go quickly.

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And so, you know, I do ask for your support for this parking structure, and I want to thank you for your time.

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James Callahan.

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Welcome.

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Good evening, Mayor, and City Council.

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Thank you for allowing me to voice my support for the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure proposal.

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My name is Jim Callahan.

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I'm a proud to say that my family is called Found Valley.

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It's home for 32 years.

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As the sign says, behind you, it is truly a nice place to live.

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One of the essential needs for any city is readily available health care.

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Orange Coast Medical Center and its team of doctors and nurses and staff provide valuable

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health services to our city and the surrounding community.

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The hospital's mission is to improve the health and wellbeing of individuals, families, and

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the community.

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I know this to be true as my late wife Cindy was the former director for the breast

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and imaging at the hospital.

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Cindy's biggest concern was that patients were treated with dignity and respect in their patient care experience.

2814
04:24:16,030 --> 04:24:24,170
Cindy wanted every patient and visitor to have as positive experience as possible when visiting the hospital and what often is a stressful time.

2815
04:24:26,330 --> 04:24:32,650
When a patient is given an unfortunate diagnosis of cancer, as was in the case for my late wife,

2816
04:24:32,650 --> 04:24:37,350
It is a frightening and stressful time for the patient as well as the patient's family members.

2817
04:24:39,210 --> 04:24:47,890
Once diagnosed, these patients are cared for by a high-quality team of oncologists that design and prescribe a treatment plan that is then administered at the hospital.

2818
04:24:49,830 --> 04:24:55,450
These treatment plans require frequent patient visits to the hospital accompanying by family or friends.

2819
04:24:56,810 --> 04:25:02,030
Difficult to be finding parking during ease of appointments, create much-own-needed stress

2820
04:25:02,030 --> 04:25:04,070
on this already daunting cancer journey.

2821
04:25:04,910 --> 04:25:06,130
I can attest to that.

2822
04:25:07,010 --> 04:25:09,450
As this is, I experienced this stress firsthand.

2823
04:25:13,180 --> 04:25:17,100
It's imperative to find a solution to the parking shortage at Orange Coast Memorial Medical

2824
04:25:17,100 --> 04:25:17,720
Center.

2825
04:25:18,700 --> 04:25:22,980
This proposal before you today addresses the needs of the hospital's patients, employees,

2826
04:25:23,300 --> 04:25:24,160
and our community.

2827
04:25:25,510 --> 04:25:34,170
Orange Coast Medical Center's legacy of clinical excellence is built on a foundation of trust, expertise, and patient-centric care.

2828
04:25:35,430 --> 04:25:38,750
Part of this care should include safe and readily available parking.

2829
04:25:40,650 --> 04:25:47,050
I implore this city council to approve the parking structure proposal and provide the much-needed solution to this parking problem.

2830
04:25:49,070 --> 04:25:52,730
Passing this proposal will make Fountain Valley a nicer place to live.

2831
04:25:53,190 --> 04:25:53,930
Thank you.

2832
04:26:01,390 --> 04:26:02,670
Brian Jenavise.

2833
04:26:13,110 --> 04:26:13,370
Good evening.

2834
04:26:13,470 --> 04:26:13,890
Thank you.

2835
04:26:13,950 --> 04:26:13,970
Yeah.

2836
04:26:14,050 --> 04:26:15,670
I think last time up here was actually light outside.

2837
04:26:16,390 --> 04:26:17,130
I was up here before.

2838
04:26:18,690 --> 04:26:25,110
So thank you, Mayor Canine, Vice Mayor Harper, and a steam city council and a city staff.

2839
04:26:25,110 --> 04:26:26,510
My name is Brian Jenavise.

2840
04:26:27,310 --> 04:26:35,590
One time resident and business constituent of the city here and also a huge volunteer

2841
04:26:35,590 --> 04:26:36,930
here in the city.

2842
04:26:37,430 --> 04:26:42,230
So, you guys remember, remember, FHP used to be here, most of you guys have probably been around that long.

2843
04:26:42,870 --> 04:26:48,590
So, that was what originally was there, and Orange Coast medical took it over and made it into what it is today,

2844
04:26:49,150 --> 04:26:55,190
which is a trusted community partner that gives back their nonprofit that does so much great work here in the city,

2845
04:26:55,410 --> 04:27:01,590
and they did such a great job organizing to bring all of us out here tonight, and I feel very flattered, I was asked to come out to speak tonight.

2846
04:27:02,290 --> 04:27:08,890
But I think, you know, the main point is it's one of those things where this, this is much needed and our residents are getting older.

2847
04:27:09,730 --> 04:27:16,770
We have, we're going to have a lot of new residents coming in too. My friend just had a baby, more or less, so we got a lot that happening.

2848
04:27:17,650 --> 04:27:19,970
And the current situation, it's a health and safety issue.

2849
04:27:20,510 --> 04:27:29,630
So the parking situation and all that, that needs to be corrected because we don't want people to have to worry about coming to access the facility and the time of the crisis that they're in already.

2850
04:27:31,010 --> 04:27:33,950
So, you know, Matt Jenkins has done a lot of work on this project.

2851
04:27:34,210 --> 04:27:36,650
There you don't pay enough attention to our city staff.

2852
04:27:36,990 --> 04:27:39,610
Sometimes it's not all the hard work they do, and they get a big, big, big, big

2853
04:27:39,610 --> 04:27:44,470
money to do these reports and bring recommendations back to you guys to vote.

2854
04:27:45,650 --> 04:27:49,050
So, on behalf of them, I'd say, right here, staff's requesting city council

2855
04:27:49,050 --> 04:27:52,830
approval, turn to number one, to adopt a solution of proving to mitigate a negative

2856
04:27:52,830 --> 04:27:56,710
declaration, blah, blah, blah, blah, you guys know what I'm going to say?

2857
04:27:56,710 --> 04:28:02,450
So request you guys approve this from Memorial Care and for the rest of the community.

2858
04:28:02,770 --> 04:28:03,610
Thank you.

2859
04:28:10,810 --> 04:28:11,450
Charlene Freeman,

2860
04:28:17,240 --> 04:28:17,920
welcome.

2861
04:28:18,660 --> 04:28:19,680
Thank you and good evening.

2862
04:28:20,480 --> 04:28:25,320
I appreciate the opportunity to voice my support for the parking structure at Memorial Care

2863
04:28:25,320 --> 04:28:26,600
Orange Coast Medical Center.

2864
04:28:27,080 --> 04:28:30,100
My name is Charlene Freeman and I'm the Director of Patient Relations.

2865
04:28:30,700 --> 04:28:33,580
I've worked for our hospital for over 36 years.

2866
04:28:33,580 --> 04:28:57,280
So, in 1990, when I did start as he just mentioned, my tenure began at FHP Hospital, which was a four-profit hospital, and at that time we had restricted access to only FHP members, and in 1996 when Memorial Care acquired FHP, we became that non-profit hospital opening the opportunity to care for our community.

2867
04:28:57,280 --> 04:29:04,420
So my role is to help our patients navigate their care at the hospital, which is quite a journey.

2868
04:29:05,120 --> 04:29:13,880
And my team makes sure that patients and their caregivers have a plan access to all the necessary additional health services to make a full recovery.

2869
04:29:14,460 --> 04:29:22,660
And as is mentioned, many of our patients have treatments way beyond their hospitalization with the radiation or chemotherapy or physical therapy.

2870
04:29:22,660 --> 04:29:25,740
And as a result, our patients and family members

2871
04:29:25,740 --> 04:29:28,560
come to our hospital campus multiple times

2872
04:29:28,560 --> 04:29:30,880
and parking is always an issue.

2873
04:29:31,480 --> 04:29:33,840
So despite offering the free valet parking,

2874
04:29:33,920 --> 04:29:36,980
which we do and implementing other parking management

2875
04:29:36,980 --> 04:29:39,220
strategies, the demand for parking

2876
04:29:39,220 --> 04:29:42,440
far exceeds the available spaces that we have.

2877
04:29:42,700 --> 04:29:45,680
Over the years, we definitely have tried to be creative

2878
04:29:45,680 --> 04:29:48,300
and attempted many parking solutions

2879
04:29:48,300 --> 04:29:51,020
to include partnering with my sister,

2880
04:29:51,020 --> 04:29:56,480
the pastor of living waters, Dean Aquaria, across the street from the hospital, so that

2881
04:29:56,480 --> 04:29:59,600
the additional employees could park there during the work week.

2882
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:06,380
Still again, we do not have enough parking spots for our patients and the employees. So our success and the

2883
04:30:06,380 --> 04:30:12,460
high demand for healthcare services have created a parking shortage that can be stressful as people

2884
04:30:12,460 --> 04:30:17,700
have mentioned for those who come to our campus for medical care and for their loved ones as well

2885
04:30:17,700 --> 04:30:22,900
as the staff that are compassionately caring for them. So please approve this project from a

2886
04:30:22,900 --> 04:30:28,100
memorial care to continue to provide the best care possible. And I respectfully thank you for your time

2887
04:30:28,100 --> 04:30:29,000
consideration.

2888
04:30:36,560 --> 04:30:38,920
Mitchell Sue Gomez.

2889
04:30:42,450 --> 04:30:47,830
Welcome. Thank you. Thank you for the excuse me. Thank you for

2890
04:30:47,830 --> 04:30:52,470
this opportunity to speak and support of the parking structure. My name is Mitchell Tudor Dome.

2891
04:30:52,790 --> 04:30:59,150
I am an outpatient physical therapist for Orange Coast Medical Center. I have been proudly and happily

2892
04:30:59,150 --> 04:31:04,690
employed at Orange Coast for the past 15 years. My wife and I and soon to be two-year-old daughter

2893
04:31:04,690 --> 04:31:07,770
are also proud and happy residents of Fallen Valley.

2894
04:31:08,350 --> 04:31:11,030
We're about us here was that of course the proximity to work,

2895
04:31:11,630 --> 04:31:16,070
but also the city spirit and pride, the safety, the schools, and the health care.

2896
04:31:16,770 --> 04:31:19,970
Fallen Valley has certainly exceeded that of a nice place to live.

2897
04:31:21,150 --> 04:31:24,630
Two months into my wife's pregnancy, she developed double vision.

2898
04:31:25,290 --> 04:31:29,270
Under the care of at an end in your medical, it was discovered she had a brain tumor.

2899
04:31:30,130 --> 04:31:34,290
It was a benign brain tumor, but this set forth a journey that was stressful.

2900
04:31:34,930 --> 04:31:37,270
uncertain, challenging, and emotional.

2901
04:31:39,270 --> 04:31:41,550
Medicine started on the day we called our doctor.

2902
04:31:42,290 --> 04:31:44,670
It continued through the multitude of tests and appointments.

2903
04:31:45,750 --> 04:31:48,030
Medicine was the day of surgery to remove this tumor.

2904
04:31:48,950 --> 04:31:53,190
And I remember driving to the surgery center and being the longest car ride of my life.

2905
04:31:53,430 --> 04:31:56,430
And I remember talking, but I don't remember thinking we talked about.

2906
04:31:57,230 --> 04:32:02,350
Medicine was the check-in, the pre-op, the surgery, the waiting, the recovery,

2907
04:32:02,350 --> 04:32:06,770
and mother returning home to her two-month-old daughter. Medicine was the

2908
04:32:06,770 --> 04:32:10,970
fallable appointments to tests and culminated with my wife being able to

2909
04:32:10,970 --> 04:32:15,250
ring the bell after two rounds of radiation. It is hard to convince anyone

2910
04:32:15,250 --> 04:32:20,230
that a parking structure is as important as this that what my wife went through

2911
04:32:20,230 --> 04:32:26,250
or a cardiac procedure, blood and fusion, a check-up for the flu or the birth of a

2912
04:32:26,250 --> 04:32:30,910
child, but medicine is the whole experience from beginning of the journey the healing

2913
04:32:30,910 --> 04:32:31,670
and the recovery.

2914
04:32:32,810 --> 04:32:35,550
I'm here to support my patients in physical therapy

2915
04:32:35,550 --> 04:32:37,770
who are commonly seen two to three times a week

2916
04:32:37,770 --> 04:32:40,830
for multiple weeks to address their functional difficulties

2917
04:32:40,830 --> 04:32:41,670
in discomfort.

2918
04:32:42,930 --> 04:32:44,850
Our patients were Parkinson's disease,

2919
04:32:45,530 --> 04:32:48,350
vertical, dizziness, balance deficits,

2920
04:32:50,130 --> 04:32:52,330
post-sturgical joint or spine rehabilitation,

2921
04:32:53,090 --> 04:32:55,130
speech, memory, and cognitive decline,

2922
04:32:55,630 --> 04:32:57,270
lymphedema from cancer recovery.

2923
04:32:57,970 --> 04:32:59,270
Many of which who have expressed

2924
04:32:59,270 --> 04:33:05,110
is the appointment with the parking or had to arrive much earlier than expected, much earlier

2925
04:33:05,110 --> 04:33:10,670
than scheduled to find a parking space. I'm here to support the patients of Orange Coast

2926
04:33:10,670 --> 04:33:16,090
and their family members and friends so that they can experience a positive experience as

2927
04:33:16,090 --> 04:33:22,250
possible in what is stressful, uncertain, and challenging from the beginning of the journey,

2928
04:33:22,410 --> 04:33:25,270
the healing, and the recovery. Thank you very much.

2929
04:33:33,840 --> 04:33:34,700
Jessica Kwan.

2930
04:33:38,410 --> 04:33:50,470
part to go after that one, but thank you. Mayor Kenyenne and as a council member, thank you for the opportunity to share my support for the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure.

2931
04:33:51,070 --> 04:33:57,610
I'm here today as a very proud found valley resident and vice president for population health and memorial care.

2932
04:33:58,410 --> 04:34:06,510
From newborns to seniors and including my parents, my children, everyone in between Orange Coast has been providing exceptional care

2933
04:34:06,510 --> 04:34:12,550
you've heard to our community for over 30 years. My family, my neighbors, my friends,

2934
04:34:13,150 --> 04:34:18,190
often share with me how fortunate we are to have this service, this excellent health care

2935
04:34:18,190 --> 04:34:26,270
right in our community at Memorial Care. However, I know personally, ease of access is a major issue.

2936
04:34:26,310 --> 04:34:32,970
My parents, my father, who's undergoing four years now of chemotherapy, circle the lot,

2937
04:34:32,970 --> 04:34:39,410
every single time we go there. My mom with her cardiac issues circle the lot every time we go over there.

2938
04:34:39,750 --> 04:34:45,490
This need for parking is no secret and when the city approved the specific plan it required

2939
04:34:45,490 --> 04:34:52,030
construction for a parking structure at the Orange Coast campus. We're at a crossroads now with

2940
04:34:52,030 --> 04:34:57,550
patients like my parents, like my children, are now telling doctors and nurses they cannot deal with

2941
04:34:57,550 --> 04:35:03,910
stress of parking. And in some cases we have seen them forego care or try to find other hospitals

2942
04:35:03,910 --> 04:35:09,070
for timely care, which is further from their homes. This is the reason we're here today

2943
04:35:09,070 --> 04:35:14,770
and we need approval for this critical parking structure. This hospital is dedicated to the wellness

2944
04:35:14,770 --> 04:35:23,010
of our community, always looking for ways to improve access to care. And as a resident I ask you

2945
04:35:23,010 --> 04:35:29,110
not wait any longer, but to approve the parking structure. So we can make sure we continue to

2946
04:35:29,110 --> 04:35:31,510
provide that access. Thank you.

2947
04:35:38,140 --> 04:35:38,680
Peter Swanson.

2948
04:35:45,780 --> 04:35:50,890
Welcome. Thank you. Good evening Mayor,

2949
04:35:51,230 --> 04:35:56,830
Vice Mayor, and City Council members. My name is Peter Swanson, and I'm here to tell you that Orange

2950
04:35:56,830 --> 04:35:59,150
Coast Memorial Care is not a nice place to park.

2951
04:36:02,410 --> 04:36:05,430
I'm here to offer my strong support for the proposed

2952
04:36:05,430 --> 04:36:10,350
parking structure at the corner of Taliburton Foster, I think we've heard a lot of the stories

2953
04:36:10,350 --> 04:36:16,010
about people driving around, but I think one of the other things that hasn't come up is all

2954
04:36:16,010 --> 04:36:21,610
the different nooks and crannies people find a park across the streets and on residential

2955
04:36:21,610 --> 04:36:29,870
streets become safety issues as people are crossing at not at lights and whatnot.

2956
04:36:30,490 --> 04:36:35,630
Anyhow, my wife and I have been residents of Fountain Valley for 35 years.

2957
04:36:35,890 --> 04:36:39,190
We bought our starter home in Stardust, and we're still there.

2958
04:36:39,210 --> 04:36:41,230
I don't think I can afford ever to sell it.

2959
04:36:42,670 --> 04:36:46,870
Our family has been coming to Memorial Care at an Edendure Medical Group for more than three

2960
04:36:46,870 --> 04:36:47,510
decades.

2961
04:36:50,630 --> 04:36:54,470
Everyone has mentioned our motto about Fountain Valley being a nice place to live.

2962
04:36:54,470 --> 04:36:59,690
And I live today, my story today is because of the health care provided by the doctors and

2963
04:36:59,690 --> 04:37:01,270
nurses at Memorial Care.

2964
04:37:01,930 --> 04:37:08,030
Three years ago, my watch told me I was at A-Fib, and I should go get attention quickly after

2965
04:37:08,030 --> 04:37:09,390
a battery attests.

2966
04:37:10,030 --> 04:37:14,550
The doctors did confirm the regular heart beat, but also told me I needed to have open heart

2967
04:37:14,550 --> 04:37:16,150
surgery in the next two weeks.

2968
04:37:17,770 --> 04:37:24,350
That led to a 15 month, I won't say or deal, but a journey with two surgeries, four

2969
04:37:24,350 --> 04:37:32,330
outpatient procedures for hospital stays, totaling 19 days, 15 nights, dozen cardiology appointments,

2970
04:37:32,630 --> 04:37:38,590
36 cardiac rehab sessions, the nursery rhyme that says you can't put Humpty Dumpty

2971
04:37:38,590 --> 04:37:44,930
back together again as wrong, because here I stand. My wife and I did come to the hospital

2972
04:37:44,930 --> 04:37:50,430
over 93 times, we calculated and we can say that parking is a problem.

2973
04:37:53,530 --> 04:37:54,330
I do want to say

2974
04:37:54,330 --> 04:38:01,210
that now, now that my health is strong, I've been blessed with a super power by the hospital where

2975
04:38:01,210 --> 04:38:06,770
I get to be a volunteer. I've been doing that for two years. I'm blessed to work in the pre and post-op

2976
04:38:06,770 --> 04:38:13,250
department for cardiology. I get to team with all the surgeons, doctors, and nurses that did the

2977
04:38:13,250 --> 04:38:19,130
work on me, the last two to three years. Twice a week, I arrive at 6.30 in the morning to

2978
04:38:19,130 --> 04:38:24,410
to sit with patients and their loved ones to tell them that they can get through the open

2979
04:38:24,410 --> 04:38:28,610
heart surgery and everyone goes into it with a little bit more optimism.

2980
04:38:29,690 --> 04:38:34,790
The only complaint I ever get in the hospital as I escort to the three dozen patients in

2981
04:38:34,790 --> 04:38:37,250
every shift I do is about the parking.

2982
04:38:37,670 --> 04:38:39,850
It's never about the food, it's just the parking.

2983
04:38:40,970 --> 04:38:45,930
So as everyone else has said today, let's approve this parking structure and fix this problem.

2984
04:38:46,310 --> 04:38:47,010
Thank you.

2985
04:38:53,320 --> 04:38:54,560
Courtney Harris.

2986
04:39:01,430 --> 04:39:04,490
Welcome. Thank you. It's going to be hard to follow my friend Peter.

2987
04:39:05,510 --> 04:39:12,010
Hi. Mayor, vice mayor and city council members. I'm here to support the hospital parking

2988
04:39:12,010 --> 04:39:16,550
structure. My name is Courtney Harris. I'm a nurse and director of cardiovascular services

2989
04:39:16,550 --> 04:39:21,590
at Orange Coast Medical Center. I have the privilege of leading the Orange Coast Medical Center

2990
04:39:21,590 --> 04:39:27,930
as hard institute. Both men and women may experience heart conditions throughout their lives. It's

2991
04:39:27,930 --> 04:39:31,210
the leading cause of death in the United States.

2992
04:39:32,170 --> 04:39:36,650
We at Orange Coast Medical Center are here to help the patients who suffer from heart disease

2993
04:39:36,650 --> 04:39:42,030
with our team of cardiologists, surgeons, nursing staff, and our cardiac rehab team.

2994
04:39:42,750 --> 04:39:46,110
After cardiac event requiring surgery or invasive procedure,

2995
04:39:46,750 --> 04:39:50,430
there are necessary therapies to support the patient to full recovery,

2996
04:39:51,050 --> 04:39:55,110
which may mean cardiac rehab, pulmonary rehab, or physical therapy.

2997
04:39:55,110 --> 04:40:01,230
Our patients receiving life-changing care of cardiac rehab will visit our facility up to 36

2998
04:40:01,230 --> 04:40:04,770
times for cardiac rehab exercise sessions.

2999
04:40:05,810 --> 04:40:11,190
I've seen firsthand many patients who are coming into the facility struggling with physical

3000
04:40:11,190 --> 04:40:16,750
limitations caused by their heart conditions, coming into cardiac rehab with an undue amount

3001
04:40:16,750 --> 04:40:22,090
of stress and physical strain, these patients of circled the facility multiple times looking

3002
04:40:22,090 --> 04:40:23,410
for parking space.

3003
04:40:24,070 --> 04:40:26,610
They finally sometimes release their car to a valet,

3004
04:40:26,790 --> 04:40:29,290
which they don't like to do, even though it's free.

3005
04:40:29,630 --> 04:40:30,850
They still don't like it.

3006
04:40:30,850 --> 04:40:34,510
I don't blame them, or they park in a boon docks,

3007
04:40:34,850 --> 04:40:36,210
and hastily walk to their appointments

3008
04:40:36,210 --> 04:40:37,410
hoping to not be late.

3009
04:40:38,070 --> 04:40:40,410
At that point, they're so frustrated that the blood pressure

3010
04:40:40,410 --> 04:40:45,730
is through the roof, and sometimes they're even out of breath

3011
04:40:45,730 --> 04:40:47,970
from rushing to make it to their appointment.

3012
04:40:48,310 --> 04:40:50,670
This type of physical stress is far from ideal

3013
04:40:50,670 --> 04:40:55,450
for this patient population, placing them at risk for worsening conditions.

3014
04:40:56,710 --> 04:41:01,510
And these conditions that they're therefore working so hard to improve.

3015
04:41:02,330 --> 04:41:07,450
Our patients deserve to be able to come to our hospital campus, receive the care

3016
04:41:07,450 --> 04:41:10,090
that they require without any undue stress.

3017
04:41:10,830 --> 04:41:15,850
I believe finding a parking place should not be on their list of worries.

3018
04:41:15,850 --> 04:41:22,870
With that said, I have the privilege of meeting our neighbors living in the orange, living near orange coast

3019
04:41:22,870 --> 04:41:30,810
during the 2025 and 26 open house events to give community members opportunities to see the plans on the parking structure

3020
04:41:30,810 --> 04:41:32,190
and provide feedback.

3021
04:41:33,650 --> 04:41:40,770
As you can see and have seen, Memorial Care is updated as the design and plans to address the feedback received.

3022
04:41:40,770 --> 04:41:47,830
I'm here today asking you to please approve the parking project for memorial care patients and for our staff.

3023
04:41:48,190 --> 04:41:49,010
Thank you.

3024
04:41:55,730 --> 04:41:56,530
Katie, you were let?

3025
04:42:02,580 --> 04:42:03,080
Thank you.

3026
04:42:03,460 --> 04:42:04,940
Good evening members of the City Council.

3027
04:42:05,480 --> 04:42:07,860
Thank you for taking the time to meet with all of us this evening.

3028
04:42:08,400 --> 04:42:09,380
My name is Katie Roulette.

3029
04:42:09,380 --> 04:42:14,580
I'm the Director of Social Services, EBS, and Emergency Management and Oracle's Medical Center.

3030
04:42:15,140 --> 04:42:17,120
And I've also had the privilege of being a patient there.

3031
04:42:17,500 --> 04:42:21,400
I think they kind of put us heart people together because I'm going to share an experience regarding the importance

3032
04:42:21,400 --> 04:42:24,380
of parking while visiting members in the hospital.

3033
04:42:25,020 --> 04:42:30,380
My son was born with a rare heart defect, which is required to open heart surgeries to date.

3034
04:42:31,760 --> 04:42:36,280
As Courtney mentioned, it requires a lot of visits to the hospital and unfortunately hospitals

3035
04:42:36,280 --> 04:42:41,640
in Orange County can accommodate those appointments and what it entails so we have to go

3036
04:42:41,640 --> 04:42:42,240
up to LA.

3037
04:42:43,260 --> 04:42:49,080
We enjoy our beautiful drive at LA multiple times a year, but following that drive in LA traffic

3038
04:42:49,080 --> 04:42:53,040
we're faced with parking issues there as well.

3039
04:42:53,240 --> 04:42:57,960
As silly as it sounds, finding a parking spot without having to circle for an extended period of time,

3040
04:42:58,340 --> 04:43:01,460
impacts my strength as a mom to go into those appointments with my son.

3041
04:43:01,980 --> 04:43:06,940
If we find a spot right away, Alex and I always joke that everything else that we are going to experience

3042
04:43:06,940 --> 04:43:09,140
in here is going to be a piece of cake.

3043
04:43:10,200 --> 04:43:15,880
It's not, it's still very difficult, but when I find parking, I can go in there with a little bit more support for him.

3044
04:43:15,880 --> 04:43:23,960
This parking structure will impact so many other family members, such as myself, with everything else there about to experience parking should not be a stressor.

3045
04:43:24,920 --> 04:43:30,280
As I mentioned, I'm the director of social work at my hospital. My social workers are often at times the people.

3046
04:43:31,000 --> 04:43:40,900
The first staff members who greet our families to deliver difficult news. Many times they are on the phone with family members who are trying to get into the hospital to say their final goodbye.

3047
04:43:40,900 --> 04:43:49,380
It's said in all of us at Orange Coast that the parking lot and parking can be a barrier to them being able to see these device in person.

3048
04:43:50,740 --> 04:43:58,040
This parking structure will not only allow our patients the ability to park stress-free, it will allow our staff to park stress-free as well.

3049
04:43:58,460 --> 04:44:04,700
Where we can focus on what is important, most, which is providing great care and exceptional care to our patients.

3050
04:44:04,700 --> 04:44:16,900
Most of the time as you've heard our loved ones, and my ask of you today is to approve the parking structure for Orange Coast Medical Center, so we can continue to provide exceptional care from members of our community. Thank you.

3051
04:44:22,760 --> 04:44:25,380
Up next is Beth Hamilton on Zoom.

3052
04:44:31,630 --> 04:44:31,630
Beth.

3053
04:44:42,940 --> 04:44:46,260
Beth, whatever you're speaking into, we can't hear.

3054
04:45:11,610 --> 04:45:26,530
Hello. Hello. Thank you, everybody, for such a long evening. My name is Lillin Yao. I am a long time resident felt valley. My parents moved here when I was 10. I am an owner over in the Mariposa townhouse area.

3055
04:45:26,530 --> 04:45:34,610
And I can assure you that I am in full agreement that Orange Coast Memorial needs parking.

3056
04:45:35,450 --> 04:45:43,410
What I'm a little bit confused about is back in 2007 when the city approved the patient pavilion.

3057
04:45:44,850 --> 04:45:51,670
The Orange Cosmo Royal had made a commitment to use the property off of Brookerson Law

3058
04:45:51,670 --> 04:45:56,030
Alameda over behind City Bank for employee parking.

3059
04:45:56,570 --> 04:46:02,550
If they're going to use that as employee parking during construction so that their employees

3060
04:46:02,550 --> 04:46:07,790
can park there so that visitors can still park over at Orange Cosmo Royal, what I'd really

3061
04:46:07,790 --> 04:46:10,370
like to see is for them to do it now.

3062
04:46:10,370 --> 04:46:15,650
If parking is such an issue today, why not start implementing that now?

3063
04:46:16,430 --> 04:46:22,350
If that works and alleviates parking for all the visitors, then why not make that permanent?

3064
04:46:23,590 --> 04:46:28,790
And then, if it's a cost issue, how much is it going to cost to put up a parking structure?

3065
04:46:29,630 --> 04:46:39,190
As a person that lives in the neighborhood, I am not so sure that I want to drive into my neighborhood with this massive building

3066
04:46:39,190 --> 04:46:42,810
at the entrance of a residential neighborhood.

3067
04:46:44,290 --> 04:46:49,750
The Hyundai facility off over by Talbert and the 405 freeway.

3068
04:46:49,870 --> 04:46:50,910
It's a massive structure.

3069
04:46:51,350 --> 04:46:53,530
Granted, the parking structure is not going to be as big,

3070
04:46:54,030 --> 04:46:55,850
but it's set back significantly.

3071
04:46:57,970 --> 04:47:02,610
And so that's just one of my curiosity is that

3072
04:47:02,610 --> 04:47:05,430
that facility, the parking lot over there

3073
04:47:05,430 --> 04:47:06,750
has never been utilized.

3074
04:47:06,750 --> 04:47:11,970
I go to city bank often in the parking lot empty. If we moved all the employee parking

3075
04:47:11,970 --> 04:47:18,630
there today, then visitors can park easily over at Orange Coast Memorial. So I would just throw

3076
04:47:18,630 --> 04:47:22,970
that out there for your consideration. Let me see what my notes.

3077
04:47:26,640 --> 04:47:29,420
Oh, that's right. I worked

3078
04:47:29,420 --> 04:47:35,500
at Long Beach Memorial for two plus decades. I also worked at Long Beach VA Medical Center.

3079
04:47:35,500 --> 04:47:41,440
Both of my parents had cancer, I had to go to USC, USC hospital,

3080
04:47:42,300 --> 04:47:50,240
Holocaust hospital, City of Hope, UC San Diego, all the various large institutions in the area.

3081
04:47:51,460 --> 04:47:53,860
And parking was at least a 10-minute walk.

3082
04:47:54,520 --> 04:47:57,900
Even if I was a visitor, I still had to walk at least 10 minutes.

3083
04:47:59,480 --> 04:48:04,440
As an employee, those two campuses were significant, such that it was a 10-minute walk,

3084
04:48:04,440 --> 04:48:09,500
15-minute walk depending on where my station was and what time I got there.

3085
04:48:10,420 --> 04:48:17,460
So the commute from the existing property that is not being utilized,

3086
04:48:17,820 --> 04:48:19,740
they're not supposed to ask.

3087
04:48:20,800 --> 04:48:21,780
Thank you very much.

3088
04:48:22,080 --> 04:48:22,680
Megan Taylor.

3089
04:48:33,360 --> 04:48:33,480
Welcome.

3090
04:48:34,280 --> 04:48:34,820
Thank you.

3091
04:48:35,240 --> 04:48:36,080
Good evening, Mayor.

3092
04:48:36,160 --> 04:48:37,760
Vice Mayor and City Council members.

3093
04:48:37,980 --> 04:48:40,960
My name is Megan Taylor and I live on lemon street.

3094
04:48:41,360 --> 04:48:43,360
18 feet from the proposed structure.

3095
04:48:43,360 --> 04:48:47,240
My family has lived in this home for nearly 50 years.

3096
04:48:48,100 --> 04:48:52,160
First, I want to thank Memorial Care the staff and the Planning Commission for listening.

3097
04:48:52,800 --> 04:48:55,680
We do appreciate the rose visions that have been made.

3098
04:48:55,940 --> 04:48:59,600
However, there are still several concerns that remain unresolved.

3099
04:49:00,360 --> 04:49:03,100
First, and foremost, is our privacy.

3100
04:49:04,880 --> 04:49:10,560
The structure still allows views into established residential properties from multiple levels.

3101
04:49:10,560 --> 04:49:15,740
This issue is not whether someone intends to look in our yard.

3102
04:49:16,180 --> 04:49:24,420
The issue is that the design creates the opportunity for thousands of people each week, 24 hours a day, to do so.

3103
04:49:25,040 --> 04:49:28,640
While the landscaping may screen the portions over time,

3104
04:49:29,280 --> 04:49:35,360
the residents should not lose a reasonable expectation of privacy in their backyards and their home,

3105
04:49:35,620 --> 04:49:39,320
because a multi-level structure is built directly behind them.

3106
04:49:39,320 --> 04:49:50,240
I understand that there's a need for ventilation, but I struggle that this idea is the idea is that ventilation and privacy are mutually exclusive.

3107
04:49:51,220 --> 04:49:58,000
Every day we see louverd screens used around rooftop equipment that allows airflow while blocking views.

3108
04:49:58,600 --> 04:50:05,520
We're simply asking that these designs be considered to give our families beside the structure some privacy.

3109
04:50:05,520 --> 04:50:11,600
This would translate to fixed horizontal lovers pointing upward between levels two and three,

3110
04:50:11,920 --> 04:50:17,420
and then extending the parapet wall on three and four to go up at least five feet.

3111
04:50:21,300 --> 04:50:28,940
Finally, Memorial Cares are cresting an amendment to their precise plan 581 with the code amendment 24.24-1.

3112
04:50:29,760 --> 04:50:32,200
That would increase the allowable building height.

3113
04:50:32,640 --> 04:50:37,100
Because this city is being asked to modify this existing development standard,

3114
04:50:37,100 --> 04:50:43,200
I'm respectfully asking that the council consider whether this additional height should be granted

3115
04:50:43,200 --> 04:50:47,920
immediately adjacent to establish residential homes.

3116
04:50:48,520 --> 04:50:58,280
As a council, not to approve the proposed increase in allowing this building height and the miniscule setback behind her home.

3117
04:50:58,820 --> 04:51:05,720
Instead, require the project to comply with the height limits that are currently established in the specific plan.

3118
04:51:05,720 --> 04:51:09,800
We respectfully ask the Council to not approve the additional levels.

3119
04:51:10,420 --> 04:51:15,140
Continue to work with Memorial Care and the neighborhood to address the remaining concerns.

3120
04:51:17,380 --> 04:51:18,420
Thank you.

3121
04:51:18,620 --> 04:51:24,280
We're going to try Beth again one more time here. Beth Hamilton.

3122
04:51:34,760 --> 04:51:35,580
We still can't hear you.

3123
04:51:35,660 --> 04:51:39,600
I don't know what you're talking into, but we cannot hear you.

3124
04:51:46,270 --> 04:51:46,810
So we're sitting.

3125
04:51:52,390 --> 04:51:53,750
Perhaps we can move on to the next speaker.

3126
04:51:56,160 --> 04:51:56,880
I can hear her.

3127
04:51:57,020 --> 04:51:57,640
We chat with her.

3128
04:52:09,780 --> 04:52:12,660
She supports it. She's under the access.

3129
04:52:17,090 --> 04:52:19,630
I can't hear her.

3130
04:52:22,760 --> 04:52:24,800
Beth, I can barely hear you from

3131
04:52:24,800 --> 04:52:28,900
whatever you're speaking into. It's not coming in over the speakers in the council chamber,

3132
04:52:29,100 --> 04:52:30,780
but I did hear that you support it.

3133
04:52:39,060 --> 04:52:40,880
Thank you. Sorry about that. She said thank you.

3134
04:52:44,100 --> 04:52:45,060
Larry Krandell.

3135
04:52:58,500 --> 04:53:00,720
Welcome. Thank you.

3136
04:53:07,820 --> 04:53:10,260
Good evening. Good evening, Mayor Coonine and Vice Mayor.

3137
04:53:11,160 --> 04:53:18,040
Harper City Council Members. My name is Larry Krandell. I have lived in the Maraposa

3138
04:53:18,040 --> 04:53:26,320
Condominiums for 34 years. My wife and I are 399 steps from the far front door to

3139
04:53:26,320 --> 04:53:32,140
the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure is being proposed. One could assume

3140
04:53:32,140 --> 04:53:37,140
that we would give, give us, and then be, not in my backyard,

3141
04:53:39,160 --> 04:53:41,320
mentality. However, we hold the

3142
04:53:41,320 --> 04:53:46,900
exact opposite opinion. When I started with the City of Fountain Valley as a council member in

3143
04:53:46,900 --> 04:53:54,160
three time mayor over the course of 15 years, this issue came before us. Since then, the population

3144
04:53:54,160 --> 04:54:01,180
of Fountain Valley and this surrounding areas has aged requiring more medical care. Since then,

3145
04:54:01,180 --> 04:54:07,460
Emergency room care a new siege has increased, since then Orange Coast Medical Center is a

3146
04:54:07,460 --> 04:54:13,260
destination facility for top-notch specialty doctors. Orange Coast Medical Center

3147
04:54:13,260 --> 04:54:22,560
banners hang with the message called to care. We care about the continued success of the entire

3148
04:54:22,560 --> 04:54:27,740
Orange Coast Medical Center organization for the community at large and for the personal

3149
04:54:27,740 --> 04:54:34,920
superb care we have received we encourage you to vote in favor of their thoughtful and refined

3150
04:54:34,920 --> 04:54:41,360
proposal to allow them to continue to do what they do best support the health care needs

3151
04:54:41,360 --> 04:54:46,480
of the ever-increasing number of people they serve. Thank you.

3152
04:54:54,190 --> 04:54:55,070
My kubbas.

3153
04:55:02,560 --> 04:55:08,210
Welcome. Thank you. Well I'm in take a considerably and more selfish point of view.

3154
04:55:08,210 --> 04:55:18,390
I live in the closest unit to the foster entrance, and I'm directly affected by view, smell, and noise.

3155
04:55:19,370 --> 04:55:23,330
View, current parking lot is the young views parking lot in the world.

3156
04:55:24,510 --> 04:55:24,650
Sorry,

3157
04:55:27,060 --> 04:55:33,680
but that a church across the street wouldn't pass your number 9 proposal tonight.

3158
04:55:34,380 --> 04:55:39,660
It's not a good view, and if I want to see the mountains, we're just not going to see them anyways.

3159
04:55:40,600 --> 04:55:46,620
Smell, because it's guess using that parking lot, it's behind my fence, that they smoke.

3160
04:55:47,480 --> 04:55:54,580
And the hospital's tried real hard, but having, thinking, employees, I want to deal with that anymore.

3161
04:55:56,320 --> 04:56:03,880
Moys is huge. I can't imagine the construction of the new parking lot being louder than

3162
04:56:03,880 --> 04:56:12,700
it currently is there. Talbot with the gas trucks with the kids racing their little cars

3163
04:56:12,700 --> 04:56:18,220
with the turbochargers, constant noise on the road.

3164
04:56:20,720 --> 04:56:23,940
It's just, it's so loud. The guests

3165
04:56:24,760 --> 04:56:28,760
arguing over grandma's dishes and she hasn't even died yet.

3166
04:56:29,580 --> 04:56:31,720
It's unbelievable the amount of noise.

3167
04:56:33,940 --> 04:56:36,420
Can't wait to see it go on.

3168
04:56:36,860 --> 04:56:39,780
Early morning landscaping because they can't get landscape

3169
04:56:39,780 --> 04:56:41,960
present there when people are already parked.

3170
04:56:42,160 --> 04:56:45,580
So they have to landscape before the parking starts.

3171
04:56:46,240 --> 04:56:47,260
They want to do that anymore.

3172
04:56:47,760 --> 04:56:50,080
Because now there won't be any cars blocking the trees.

3173
04:56:50,080 --> 04:56:55,700
the landscapers can service that lot during the middle of the day, who's now they're waking

3174
04:56:55,700 --> 04:57:02,060
up. The people stealing the catalytic converters in the middle of the night. Those things

3175
04:57:02,060 --> 04:57:08,500
will all be gone. So yeah, I'm being very selfish, very selfishly, put it in that parking lot.

3176
04:57:11,900 --> 04:57:19,360
A bigger thing, the J walkers, I've almost hit five of them. One of your doctors may be here at

3177
04:57:19,360 --> 04:57:25,420
had words with me. They walk across to the speed that, and when we're driving, they sit on our

3178
04:57:25,420 --> 04:57:31,780
appolar. We don't see them. My son twice yelled at me, stop. You're about to add them. We don't

3179
04:57:31,780 --> 04:57:38,800
see them. If you're at the right spot, they just stay in your appolar. Thank you for the overhead

3180
04:57:40,000 --> 04:57:46,880
pathway. And please let the police department enforce Jaywalkers after it's done, because we hate

3181
04:57:46,880 --> 04:57:50,320
almost hitting them. We don't try to. It just happens.

3182
04:57:53,660 --> 04:57:54,680
I don't mean my wife.

3183
04:57:56,940 --> 04:58:02,840
Currently, the guests, the drug sales people, they're constantly

3184
04:58:02,840 --> 04:58:06,080
parking in a parking lot at the community.

3185
04:58:07,900 --> 04:58:10,620
We see it constantly. They're like, well, Mike, I don't

3186
04:58:10,620 --> 04:58:12,220
sorry your time is up. Thanks.

3187
04:58:14,180 --> 04:58:15,640
Dr. Stanley Arnold.

3188
04:58:24,740 --> 04:58:25,160
Good evening.

3189
04:58:25,160 --> 04:58:29,960
Mayor Kanin, Vice Mayor Harper, and members of the City Council.

3190
04:58:30,340 --> 04:58:31,720
My name is Dr. Stan Arnelem,

3191
04:58:31,740 --> 04:58:34,840
I'm a practicing internist and president of Edens your medical group.

3192
04:58:36,540 --> 04:58:40,880
Private physician-owned medical group, serving in the communities since 1961.

3193
04:58:42,460 --> 04:58:45,620
We've been partnered in delivering value-based care

3194
04:58:45,620 --> 04:58:50,260
with the memorial system in North Dakota's memorial for over 25 years.

3195
04:58:51,080 --> 04:58:54,140
And in that time, I've seen them the hospital transform

3196
04:58:54,140 --> 04:59:00,920
from a sleepy little community hospital to the premier state of the art institution is today.

3197
04:59:01,380 --> 04:59:09,820
And to say that the original parking structure is antiquated and in need of a transformation

3198
04:59:09,820 --> 04:59:18,980
with more parking is an understatement. And so I ask for your permission to proceed with the

3199
04:59:18,980 --> 04:59:21,980
new structure. Thank you very much.

3200
04:59:23,160 --> 04:59:27,300
At the Arnold. At the Arnold. I actually have a question for you, Dr. Arnold.

3201
04:59:28,540 --> 04:59:32,720
So, Dr. Arnold was my doctor for years at an intermedical group.

3202
04:59:33,400 --> 04:59:35,720
And I understand that parking lot really well.

3203
04:59:36,400 --> 04:59:39,380
And I was one of those Jaywalkers all the time.

3204
04:59:39,640 --> 04:59:42,560
But what I don't understand is especially for

3205
04:59:42,560 --> 04:59:48,380
your medical group, where are your patients going to park now? Because if that's for doctors only,

3206
04:59:49,000 --> 04:59:56,560
where will your patients park? Reddinger. When the new structure is completed? Yeah. The park

3207
04:59:56,560 --> 04:59:59,860
in the existing structure. So that's much further.

3208
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:08,800
From where are we park now? No, it's close to right now the patient's park in the structure. When they

3209
05:00:08,800 --> 05:00:15,980
can find a spot, most of the staff is parking in the physician's, we're privileged and we get

3210
05:00:15,980 --> 05:00:21,800
spots on the, in the structure. But the patient's park in the structure, or they're parking

3211
05:00:21,800 --> 05:00:31,140
by Valle, but the staff parking the foster lot, where the current proposal is for the new parking

3212
05:00:31,140 --> 05:00:39,680
structure. Okay, I still see the old structure, to your office, to me, is much further than

3213
05:00:39,680 --> 05:00:47,260
just walking across and entering the back door of the, no. Okay, yeah. Thank you. You bet.

3214
05:00:48,400 --> 05:00:50,760
Next speaker is Theresa Stern.

3215
05:00:57,410 --> 05:00:57,590
Welcome.

3216
05:01:00,180 --> 05:01:04,000
Mayor Kineen, Vice Mayor Harper, Members of the City Council.

3217
05:01:04,380 --> 05:01:09,420
Thank you for allowing me to be here today in support of the parking structure at Orange Coast Medical Center.

3218
05:01:10,160 --> 05:01:15,460
My name is Theresa Stern, and I have the privilege of overseeing Orange Coast Medical Center's Ancillary Services,

3219
05:01:16,200 --> 05:01:22,240
which includes supportive, diagnostic, and therapeutic services for our patients and their loved ones.

3220
05:01:22,980 --> 05:01:27,120
One of the areas I oversee is our Parkinson's and Movement Disorders program.

3221
05:01:27,860 --> 05:01:31,360
Parkinson's disease is the fastest growing neurologic disease worldwide.

3222
05:01:32,260 --> 05:01:38,460
In Orange Coast Medical Center, proudly offers one of the most robust Parkinson's programs in all of Orange County.

3223
05:01:40,180 --> 05:01:46,640
When a patient is diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, they will develop neuromuscular movement disorders that works in over time.

3224
05:01:46,640 --> 05:01:52,960
Every day activities such as walking, eating, and speaking become extremely difficult.

3225
05:01:54,440 --> 05:01:59,240
My team supports these patients with the menu of services throughout this difficult journey.

3226
05:02:00,260 --> 05:02:09,100
From speech therapy, physical therapy, to complementary exercise classes, patients of poor groups, and even caregivers of poor groups.

3227
05:02:09,100 --> 05:02:17,440
As you can imagine, receiving and benefiting from these support services requires many visits to our hospital campuses.

3228
05:02:18,380 --> 05:02:22,620
Monthly, weekly, or even daily, depending on the stage of disease.

3229
05:02:23,880 --> 05:02:27,040
This need can go on for many, many years.

3230
05:02:28,460 --> 05:02:38,200
This means people suffering from Parkinson's disease and their caregivers are driving to the hospital for much needed care and are dealing with the stress of finding parking.

3231
05:02:38,200 --> 05:02:44,920
stress that can intensify their already difficult symptoms as they fear potentially being

3232
05:02:44,920 --> 05:02:52,740
late or even worse missing these complementary services services they very much need.

3233
05:02:53,500 --> 05:02:59,500
As we live longer, it is a fact that individuals will develop a variety of diseases that

3234
05:02:59,500 --> 05:03:06,260
require an array of services to support them on their difficult journey and I am here today

3235
05:03:06,260 --> 05:03:13,260
We're speckfully asking you to make it easier for them to receive the care they need.

3236
05:03:14,120 --> 05:03:20,980
Please vote to approve this parking project from a moral care so that we can continue to best care for our patients and their caregivers.

3237
05:03:22,040 --> 05:03:22,640
Thank you.

3238
05:03:29,630 --> 05:03:30,710
Rosa Evans.

3239
05:03:32,090 --> 05:03:32,310
Risa.

3240
05:03:33,030 --> 05:03:33,290
Oh.

3241
05:03:39,430 --> 05:03:39,650
Welcome.

3242
05:03:40,430 --> 05:03:41,510
Thank you.

3243
05:03:41,770 --> 05:03:42,350
Good evening.

3244
05:03:42,350 --> 05:03:48,150
Mayor Coonan, Vice Mayor Harper, and Council members.

3245
05:03:48,730 --> 05:03:55,410
My name is Risa Evans, and I am chair for the Memorial Care Health System Board, and I'm

3246
05:03:55,410 --> 05:04:00,370
also on the Orange County Hospital Board, and I'm a patient at Orange Coast also.

3247
05:04:01,870 --> 05:04:07,910
Memorial Care and my work through the board has given me the opportunity to collaborate

3248
05:04:07,910 --> 05:04:14,210
with physicians, nurses, and leaders to improve timely access to healthcare services through our

3249
05:04:14,210 --> 05:04:21,270
hospitals and all of our clinics. Together we understand that it's our employees who are the

3250
05:04:21,270 --> 05:04:26,910
foundation of Memorial Care's culture of caring for our patients and visitors that come through

3251
05:04:26,910 --> 05:04:33,940
our doors every day. But it's becoming harder and harder in our orange coast hospital for our

3252
05:04:33,940 --> 05:04:39,880
employees to find a place to leave their vehicles so that they can come in and provide that

3253
05:04:39,880 --> 05:04:46,480
exceptional care. Currently our employees at Orange Coast Park in a multiple location throughout

3254
05:04:46,480 --> 05:04:52,640
the campus and staff consider themselves lucky if they can find a spot in one of those

3255
05:04:52,640 --> 05:05:01,200
multiple locations. They start their day on the front end frustrated before they even started

3256
05:05:01,200 --> 05:05:05,060
the long work day ahead of them as incredible health workers.

3257
05:05:06,400 --> 05:05:09,760
The prepping structure is something the employees need and want.

3258
05:05:09,860 --> 05:05:15,320
It's a regular topic of conversation and the anticipation is very high that you will

3259
05:05:15,320 --> 05:05:18,640
approve our project and we can get construction started.

3260
05:05:20,400 --> 05:05:25,240
We are so appreciative to Emily Randall for her time that she spent to meet with residents,

3261
05:05:25,240 --> 05:05:32,380
neighbors, staff, and community leaders to listen and find parking solution that would strike

3262
05:05:32,380 --> 05:05:38,120
the right balance for hopefully everyone. And with over 500 letters of support from

3263
05:05:38,120 --> 05:05:44,520
Fountain Valley residents, nurses, physicians, employees, community leaders, and patients,

3264
05:05:45,080 --> 05:05:51,000
she's handled all of that with grace. This solution will now streamline parking on campus,

3265
05:05:51,000 --> 05:06:03,940
to just one employee parking structure at the corner of Talboton Foster and a bridge to take the traffic off of the foster where people are Jay walking and we're having dangerous situations.

3266
05:06:05,180 --> 05:06:15,400
The parking structure will alleviate a lot of daily stress for our compassionate health care teams so that they can focus on patient care instead.

3267
05:06:16,320 --> 05:06:23,360
Help us in this endeavor, please, and support the parking lot center development for Memorial Care.

3268
05:06:30,590 --> 05:06:32,330
I have no further requests to speak.

3269
05:06:35,250 --> 05:06:35,410
Okay.

3270
05:06:35,430 --> 05:06:35,670
Thanks.

3271
05:06:35,770 --> 05:06:42,010
I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open up to comments from Council.

3272
05:06:43,110 --> 05:06:43,910
That's all I'm in.

3273
05:06:44,130 --> 05:06:44,170
Good.

3274
05:06:46,190 --> 05:06:47,170
Great presentation.

3275
05:06:47,170 --> 05:06:59,330
And so I know, I understand, you know, that this will be just for employees and there'll be a key card badge system for the employees, the volunteers and the physicians.

3276
05:07:00,430 --> 05:07:10,170
Somebody was just off earlier asking about security. Do we have any information on that? Any kind of patrolling or anything?

3277
05:07:10,170 --> 05:07:11,010
That

3278
05:07:14,400 --> 05:07:20,280
question for you. Yes, we have a security that will be on patrol in that area.

3279
05:07:21,000 --> 05:07:33,280
So, regular patrol to make sure that everything stays in order as it should and will also have the badge system to be able to get from area area.

3280
05:07:33,720 --> 05:07:43,400
It was suggested that the planning commission that the elevators would run with badge access as well to prevent interlopers from coming into the

3281
05:07:43,400 --> 05:07:55,040
structure, and so that is our plan as well, and we also have the officers that stand outside

3282
05:07:55,040 --> 05:08:01,880
of the emergency entrance just across the foster, so they have a great view of the overall

3283
05:08:01,880 --> 05:08:03,080
area as well.

3284
05:08:03,780 --> 05:08:06,900
One last question, when will construction start?

3285
05:08:07,840 --> 05:08:13,660
Well, we'll have to take it once we receive approval from the City Council.

3286
05:08:14,080 --> 05:08:20,640
We would take it forward to our Board of Directors at both Orange Coast and at Memorial Health

3287
05:08:20,640 --> 05:08:21,000
Services.

3288
05:08:22,360 --> 05:08:28,160
So there's a process involved in that, then it would go out to bid or for final designs and

3289
05:08:28,160 --> 05:08:34,220
bid probably construction wouldn't start until spring of next year.

3290
05:08:34,700 --> 05:08:34,880
Great.

3291
05:08:34,880 --> 05:08:35,500
I'm very excited.

3292
05:08:35,500 --> 05:08:37,360
Thank you so much, thank you.

3293
05:08:39,170 --> 05:08:40,550
Any other council comments?

3294
05:08:41,850 --> 05:08:43,090
Council member Lee.

3295
05:08:43,450 --> 05:08:43,810
Thank you, Mayor.

3296
05:08:44,650 --> 05:08:45,850
So, I have a question.

3297
05:08:46,790 --> 05:08:51,910
My understanding, you also own an in the piece of property, which is south of the hospital.

3298
05:08:52,930 --> 05:08:56,210
Do you have any plans of that business,

3299
05:08:56,950 --> 05:08:57,250
Plaza or?

3300
05:08:58,130 --> 05:08:58,450
Uses.

3301
05:08:59,590 --> 05:09:00,490
Mariposa Plaza.

3302
05:09:00,950 --> 05:09:01,950
Yeah, shopping center.

3303
05:09:02,290 --> 05:09:06,610
Yes, we actually are using it to full extent to move.

3304
05:09:06,610 --> 05:09:14,150
we've moved a number of office offices out of the hospital to make room for patient care.

3305
05:09:14,990 --> 05:09:23,670
And so anything that any service or activity that doesn't require that is not required

3306
05:09:23,670 --> 05:09:28,350
to be inside the acute care hospital, we have moved some of those services there.

3307
05:09:28,350 --> 05:09:31,230
So we are using it as it currently exists.

3308
05:09:32,690 --> 05:09:37,490
There's the strip mall and two pretty sturdy buildings

3309
05:09:37,490 --> 05:09:41,510
that we plan to use just as we're using them now.

3310
05:09:41,850 --> 05:09:41,870
OK.

3311
05:09:42,590 --> 05:09:45,210
Well, Ms. Randall, first of all, thank you for your outstanding

3312
05:09:45,210 --> 05:09:49,830
committee outreach and congratulations on your appointment

3313
05:09:49,830 --> 05:09:52,170
as chief executive of the hospital.

3314
05:09:52,510 --> 05:09:53,490
Thank you.

3315
05:09:53,790 --> 05:09:57,650
I also want to thank the resident and the everyone

3316
05:09:57,650 --> 05:10:04,590
who came out and to speak on this matter, for the lending their words today. I also would

3317
05:10:04,590 --> 05:10:13,730
like to share my two experience. My family has had with this institutions. So two decades ago,

3318
05:10:14,390 --> 05:10:22,030
my son received exceptional care with this wall. And last year, the same standard of excellent

3319
05:10:22,030 --> 05:10:29,730
shown once again. For that, I extend my gratitude to the hospital, and to the remarkable

3320
05:10:29,730 --> 05:10:38,430
team of dedicated professional. Thank you for caring for my family and across the, and across

3321
05:10:38,430 --> 05:10:44,390
the years, and for caring for this white, the whole community. Thank you.

3322
05:10:50,790 --> 05:10:55,010
That's all, and grannies? Yeah, so a couple of questions. First off, I also have experience

3323
05:10:55,010 --> 05:11:03,650
here. My son was born, one of my two boys were born on that property, but he's 36, so it was

3324
05:11:03,650 --> 05:11:16,390
FHP and not Orange Coast, so I'm old. One of the biggest issues, actually before I get

3325
05:11:16,390 --> 05:11:22,470
to that, is that always been a parking lot, like forever, back even FHP days, or what was

3326
05:11:22,470 --> 05:11:25,310
that before. Does anybody know the

3327
05:11:28,790 --> 05:11:34,110
boys on girls, a girl's club on that property, okay?

3328
05:11:34,410 --> 05:11:41,510
Brian's even older than me. Okay, thanks Brian. I'm just curious about that.

3329
05:11:43,810 --> 05:11:44,410
Obviously

3330
05:11:44,410 --> 05:11:49,550
those homes, I was curious what was there before the parking lot. What were they behind?

3331
05:11:52,810 --> 05:11:57,830
So, the movie to try the movie theater, that's right, now I've been there many times.

3332
05:11:58,470 --> 05:12:00,390
Okay, that's right, now it's all coming back.

3333
05:12:02,010 --> 05:12:07,740
So, I think one of the biggest issues I talk to my buddy, Herb Fallen, who lives back there,

3334
05:12:08,510 --> 05:12:12,570
and I think the biggest issue is people parking in the neighborhood.

3335
05:12:12,570 --> 05:12:25,070
So, how do we, what are we going to do to discourage patients, I think doctors will have enough room now, but how do we discourage patients from parking in the neighborhood?

3336
05:12:28,840 --> 05:12:40,840
I think you'll obviously will have adequate parking for employees and for physicians, but that means that there will be areas in the existing parking structure,

3337
05:12:40,840 --> 05:12:46,800
and all of the surface slots around the edge or medical building, as well as the HW, the

3338
05:12:46,800 --> 05:12:51,400
health and wellness pavilion. There's a lot of surface parking that will be freed up because

3339
05:12:51,400 --> 05:12:57,660
there won't be employees and physicians parking in that area. So that'll give us more parking

3340
05:12:57,660 --> 05:13:04,940
for patients. So I really don't believe that there will be the need for our patients and visitors

3341
05:13:04,940 --> 05:13:07,640
to overflow onto the streets.

3342
05:13:08,620 --> 05:13:16,600
When I was out doing a lot of community outreach, that was a real concern of the neighbors

3343
05:13:16,600 --> 05:13:26,100
across Talbot as well on Chestnut, no, Keshu, that there was, they wanted to be assured

3344
05:13:26,100 --> 05:13:30,280
that there would not be parking with the construction, while the construction was going

3345
05:13:30,280 --> 05:13:36,060
that there wouldn't be construction trucks there, and we took care of that with our agreement

3346
05:13:36,060 --> 05:13:43,280
with the church. The other thing is that it is anybody parking in the area and they wondered

3347
05:13:43,280 --> 05:13:49,600
if we would be supportive, if the hospital would be supportive of signage on those streets with

3348
05:13:49,600 --> 05:13:57,540
the city, with the city's help to prohibit patient parking on there. There's that it was signed

3349
05:13:57,540 --> 05:14:03,880
somehow, so that was some feedback that we received, anything that we can do to support, not having

3350
05:14:03,880 --> 05:14:09,640
folks park in the nearby neighborhoods, we would be willing to support.

3351
05:14:10,240 --> 05:14:14,440
Okay, I'm glad to hear that. I think that's something that I don't think we can prohibit parking

3352
05:14:14,440 --> 05:14:20,520
there, it's public street, but maybe a no-patient parking or something, I think, could be helpful.

3353
05:14:21,620 --> 05:14:25,820
The other issue brought up was truck deliveries going through the neighborhoods.

3354
05:14:25,820 --> 05:14:32,040
What could we do to prevent delivery trucks from continuing through?

3355
05:14:33,060 --> 05:14:40,120
Yeah. The truck deliveries should come off of Brookhurst into the dock area.

3356
05:14:40,620 --> 05:14:42,120
That's the most direct route.

3357
05:14:42,400 --> 05:14:48,780
So going through Phillips and Foster is not really a good route for any trucks,

3358
05:14:48,980 --> 05:14:53,700
but I'm sure that there's some that get way laid and go through that neighborhood.

3359
05:14:53,700 --> 05:14:59,940
So, we can work with our vendors to basically, you know, emphasize the

3360
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:05,240
The direct route for the drop-off of deliverance and so forth.

3361
05:15:05,580 --> 05:15:09,780
Well, I'm hoping you give me a commitment now that you guys will reach out to your vendors,

3362
05:15:09,980 --> 05:15:13,300
because many of them may not even realize that's a big issue for the neighbors.

3363
05:15:13,760 --> 05:15:15,620
Absolutely, yeah, we have our commitment.

3364
05:15:16,580 --> 05:15:25,280
Okay. And then, is there any way for when they exit onto Talbert, and I'm glad they're exiting on to Talbert?

3365
05:15:25,280 --> 05:15:32,760
But sometimes, Talbert backs up, we don't want them to cut through foster and then go through

3366
05:15:32,760 --> 05:15:34,120
the neighborhood too.

3367
05:15:34,800 --> 05:15:38,780
I know that you're blocking them from going the other way and left into the parking lot.

3368
05:15:38,920 --> 05:15:46,640
Is there any way that, I don't know, I guess they're all going to be doctors, so it's not

3369
05:15:46,640 --> 05:15:49,380
like it's patients coming out of that parking lot.

3370
05:15:49,380 --> 05:15:57,060
How do we motivate them to make sure they don't cut through the neighborhood?

3371
05:15:58,520 --> 05:16:04,360
Well, I think those instructions will be very clear when we establish the parking lot.

3372
05:16:05,160 --> 05:16:10,560
All of the rules of the road for the parking structure will be part of policy for us.

3373
05:16:10,560 --> 05:16:17,020
And so if it will mostly be employees, there will be some doctors and volunteers, but all

3374
05:16:17,020 --> 05:16:24,160
of those are under our supervision and if they don't follow the rules, then we take action

3375
05:16:24,160 --> 05:16:26,840
to make sure they get in line.

3376
05:16:27,180 --> 05:16:28,840
Okay, that's good.

3377
05:16:28,900 --> 05:16:33,600
This has been recorded and if you're going to play this back, if you don't, so that's good.

3378
05:16:33,600 --> 05:16:33,620
That's good.

3379
05:16:33,620 --> 05:16:34,360
Oh, lower the boom.

3380
05:16:34,800 --> 05:16:35,560
There you go.

3381
05:16:36,780 --> 05:16:40,400
I was going to ask you the same question as Dr. Arnold, because I didn't wait

3382
05:16:40,400 --> 05:16:46,600
get the answer I was hoping for, but you did say that I didn't realize doctors were parking

3383
05:16:46,600 --> 05:16:53,980
in those lots right next to the building as well. Yeah, we have a lot of docs that park on the

3384
05:16:53,980 --> 05:17:01,660
first floor of the existing parking structure, but others that park in those surface lots around

3385
05:17:01,660 --> 05:17:09,660
the buildings so that that we should dissipate because it will be really plenty of parking

3386
05:17:09,660 --> 05:17:16,260
for staff and for physicians so it was a surface parking lots should be available for patients.

3387
05:17:16,940 --> 05:17:20,820
Okay and you're going to give that same commitment if you see doctors parking there anyway

3388
05:17:20,820 --> 05:17:26,980
that you'll absolutely they all they have the badges as well as the parking permits so

3389
05:17:26,980 --> 05:17:28,640
Okay. We will find them.

3390
05:17:30,160 --> 05:17:35,000
All right. You know, we, you know, I agree that a parking structure is important, but I think

3391
05:17:35,000 --> 05:17:39,700
it's important to address the residents needs as well. So you're going to make, and I know

3392
05:17:39,700 --> 05:17:44,820
I've worked with you for a short while now, but I believe that when you say that, that you

3393
05:17:44,820 --> 05:17:48,520
will follow through, so appreciate it. Thank you.

3394
05:17:51,620 --> 05:17:52,180
Vice-merhopper.

3395
05:17:53,080 --> 05:17:54,960
Thank you. I request for Matt Jenkins.

3396
05:18:00,970 --> 05:18:14,750
So, if I read the staff report correctly, there's, after we build a parking structure, there'll be a surplus of 318 or 379 parking spots.

3397
05:18:18,850 --> 05:18:26,650
I certainly, while I recognize that there's a need for a parking additional parking at the Memorial Care.

3398
05:18:26,650 --> 05:18:32,630
I have, I'm struggling with the need for a five-story parking structure.

3399
05:18:33,290 --> 05:18:41,510
It seems like the first three levels would meet the needs that are sort of identified in the staff report.

3400
05:18:43,870 --> 05:18:50,350
So, I just, you know, I guess I, and given the surrounding neighborhoods,

3401
05:18:50,350 --> 05:18:59,250
It's like five stories, that's a big parking structure and if we can satisfy the need with

3402
05:18:59,250 --> 05:19:04,510
three stories, I don't see why we need to go to five.

3403
05:19:05,150 --> 05:19:12,810
So with respect to the numbers, historically the city had fairly restrictive parking requirements

3404
05:19:12,810 --> 05:19:20,890
and when the project was first, well, years ago when Orange Coast Memorial first looked at it,

3405
05:19:22,350 --> 05:19:27,210
they used the city's parking ratios, again, which were very restrictive, and so that's how they

3406
05:19:27,210 --> 05:19:35,370
planned their structure and coming up with the code calculated required parking under the old

3407
05:19:35,370 --> 05:19:45,110
provisions we came to 2000 and 16 parking spaces required per the calculated code for the hospital

3408
05:19:45,110 --> 05:19:53,510
campus, the entire campus. The city is since revised its parking standards to kind of be more

3409
05:19:53,510 --> 05:20:00,730
in line with industry standards and from engineering studies based on real world applications of

3410
05:20:00,730 --> 05:20:04,710
and what they're parking generates, and those studies suggested

3411
05:20:04,710 --> 05:20:09,830
a more conservative parking ratio of five parking spaces

3412
05:20:09,830 --> 05:20:15,730
per thousand, which is what the city recently updated its parking ratios to.

3413
05:20:17,390 --> 05:20:23,690
Thus at the beginning of this project, Orange Coast Memorial still was using the old parking ratios,

3414
05:20:23,770 --> 05:20:28,950
which required more parking spaces, and so when they were planning their parking structure,

3415
05:20:28,950 --> 05:20:35,990
They were under the assumption using the old ratios that the whole campus required

3416
05:20:35,990 --> 05:20:44,210
2,000 parking spaces, so the design is a parking structure, then being 860 parking spaces.

3417
05:20:46,070 --> 05:20:52,650
Then since through public outreach they revised it to increase the step back to the west

3418
05:20:53,690 --> 05:21:05,330
decreasing the total amount of spaces to the 784 now, but by doing that decreasing the size

3419
05:21:05,330 --> 05:21:09,730
of the structure, using the old code requirement to which are not the current requirements

3420
05:21:09,730 --> 05:21:14,890
of the city, but the older requirements located in the specific plan of one space per

3421
05:21:14,890 --> 05:21:25,270
1143 square feet by doing that under the old parking requirement with the post structure,

3422
05:21:26,450 --> 05:21:29,450
the project only gained 26 parking spaces.

3423
05:21:31,150 --> 05:21:35,690
Because the parking requirement was so high of 2,000 under the older requirements.

3424
05:21:36,730 --> 05:21:41,810
So they revised their parking structure to reduce the amount of spaces that they're going

3425
05:21:41,810 --> 05:21:51,130
building and revise the parking ratios to be online with the city which require less parking

3426
05:21:51,130 --> 05:22:00,310
than what we previously required in the past. So the number looks like the project is building

3427
05:22:00,310 --> 05:22:09,310
more parking than what is needed. However, these numbers are based on calculations. I think the

3428
05:22:09,310 --> 05:22:15,310
hospital and their staff that has been there for years, understand the daily operations of the parking

3429
05:22:15,310 --> 05:22:23,810
challenges there and with the overlap of employees with the nursing situation they provided.

3430
05:22:24,590 --> 05:22:25,670
Yeah, I understand that.

3431
05:22:25,790 --> 05:22:26,610
To accommodate their needs.

3432
05:22:27,010 --> 05:22:31,650
But I guess, you know, there's going to be with the just building a three-level structural

3433
05:22:31,650 --> 05:22:42,450
and 267 parking spaces compared to what they have now, and I've heard like, oh well, we need

3434
05:22:42,450 --> 05:22:49,810
for the shift. I guess I haven't seen any numbers that really justify the additional parking

3435
05:22:49,810 --> 05:22:54,970
that they're requesting. So that's where I'm having an issue.

3436
05:22:56,490 --> 05:23:08,750
I think one thing that council member Booy brought up is that shopping center that's next to the hospital that's currently

3437
05:23:08,750 --> 05:23:17,500
be using for offices. I don't think that's going to be used for offices forever and I think eventually that's going to

3438
05:23:18,180 --> 05:23:23,540
additional parking. So, you know, there's just no way you buy your shopping

3439
05:23:23,540 --> 05:23:28,500
center like that for office space. So, I think there's some future planning

3440
05:23:28,500 --> 05:23:33,580
whether they could talk about that or not now. I would expect that. Do you know

3441
05:23:33,580 --> 05:23:41,360
what I'm saying? No, I don't. I had something that could happen maybe in the future

3442
05:23:41,360 --> 05:23:46,620
someday. Well, you're planning a parking structure now. You have to plan for the

3443
05:23:46,620 --> 05:23:51,340
as well. And there's a shopping center right next to it. But they haven't, what's in the

3444
05:23:51,340 --> 05:23:59,520
Stanford for what I've heard is that they've got 369 extra parking spaces. And we don't

3445
05:23:59,520 --> 05:24:06,300
wide-build a five-story structure. If you only three, it's much less impact on the, on the neighborhood.

3446
05:24:07,400 --> 05:24:13,900
And that's what I, you know, that's where I am with it right now.

3447
05:24:13,900 --> 05:24:17,160
Yeah, I mean, when do I think she wants to speak on that?

3448
05:24:17,760 --> 05:24:18,560
They all quite speak.

3449
05:24:19,760 --> 05:24:27,780
Just want to remind the council that the parking structure is, you know, we went one,

3450
05:24:27,940 --> 05:24:36,400
one for below grade to decrease the height and there are only three stories and a rooftop parking.

3451
05:24:36,600 --> 05:24:41,360
So it doesn't have, it's not the size of a five story parking structure,

3452
05:24:41,360 --> 05:24:45,340
like the one at the south side of the campus.

3453
05:24:45,620 --> 05:24:49,320
So it's really a three-story structure with an extra floor underneath

3454
05:24:49,320 --> 05:24:51,020
and the rooftop parking.

3455
05:24:51,640 --> 05:24:55,580
So we've tried to optimize as much parking as we can.

3456
05:24:56,020 --> 05:24:59,540
We've obviously taken some out by stair stepping

3457
05:24:59,540 --> 05:25:01,820
that parking structure back.

3458
05:25:02,040 --> 05:25:03,360
What do you need all the extra parking?

3459
05:25:03,580 --> 05:25:06,140
I mean, if there's only you've only

3460
05:25:06,140 --> 05:25:10,360
in the staff report, you haven't shown me a need for that many

3461
05:25:10,360 --> 05:25:14,720
many spaces. You've told me while we didn't were parking with the shift, but there's no parking

3462
05:25:14,720 --> 05:25:20,860
demand study or anything like that. It's getting to that number. It's based on the old code.

3463
05:25:22,240 --> 05:25:32,060
The shift overlap is real. It's an operational. Every day, every 12 hours, there is an overlap of staff,

3464
05:25:32,180 --> 05:25:37,860
the nurses from the day shift to the night shift. They have to give reports. So it's only for a

3465
05:25:37,860 --> 05:25:44,420
period of time about 30 to 45 minutes, but it's real and it's there. And if we, if we are

3466
05:25:44,420 --> 05:25:50,540
stingy with the parking and go down to just exactly what the regulations say, we won't have

3467
05:25:50,540 --> 05:25:56,140
enough parking and we'll have overflow into the neighborhoods, which is what we want to avoid.

3468
05:25:56,380 --> 05:26:03,920
We need a little bit of padding so that that shift exchange can take place and that the overflow

3469
05:26:03,920 --> 05:26:09,540
into the neighborhoods does not occur so that's that's my sense that we've got we've

3470
05:26:09,540 --> 05:26:13,940
paired it down as much as we can we've gone underground and we've done the rooftop

3471
05:26:13,940 --> 05:26:19,380
parking so as to not be such a large structure for the neighborhood.

3472
05:26:21,180 --> 05:26:28,360
Okay yeah I just you know one of my first I joined a planning commission in the year

3473
05:26:28,360 --> 05:26:37,580
2014, and one of the first projects that we approved was demolishing the office building right there,

3474
05:26:37,800 --> 05:26:43,720
and turning it in a parking lot because Memorial Care said they needed that for parking, and it's been empty since then.

3475
05:26:45,460 --> 05:26:57,380
So, while I appreciate the need for extra parking, I think I would need more than we have to approve the project.

3476
05:26:57,380 --> 05:27:03,260
And probably it sounds like maybe one or five, but that's where I think you don't want to recognize

3477
05:27:03,800 --> 05:27:04,660
the applicant.

3478
05:27:05,180 --> 05:27:09,360
I'm Shane Green with LLG engineers and I did the part we work on the parking study.

3479
05:27:09,820 --> 05:27:14,680
Just to give a little bit of context, you know, you have almost roughly 2,000 spaces

3480
05:27:14,680 --> 05:27:15,940
as well as being recommended.

3481
05:27:16,420 --> 05:27:22,380
And out of the 2,000, we have a surplus from a closed standpoint of about 300, which is about 15%.

3482
05:27:22,380 --> 05:27:31,280
So normally, normally when I'm talking part, I'm talking shopping centers, and normally you want a contingency of about 15%.

3483
05:27:31,280 --> 05:27:36,160
Once you get to about 15%, or beyond 15%, it starts to feel full.

3484
05:27:36,700 --> 05:27:44,580
So you're searching, you're starting to look, so we're building into this contingency and that convenience factor for that.

3485
05:27:45,020 --> 05:27:48,680
So it's covering that plus the shift that they're talking about.

3486
05:27:48,680 --> 05:27:54,040
So it sounds like a big number that a whole level or two, but it's really not.

3487
05:27:54,300 --> 05:27:58,700
It's providing enough surplus for a good experience.

3488
05:27:58,840 --> 05:28:00,780
And that's what we're trying to accomplish here.

3489
05:28:03,670 --> 05:28:04,870
Councilwoman Constantine.

3490
05:28:05,010 --> 05:28:05,230
Sure.

3491
05:28:05,590 --> 05:28:07,690
I just want to say my mother was there.

3492
05:28:08,090 --> 05:28:09,770
My mom's still alive and everything.

3493
05:28:10,770 --> 05:28:15,330
But there's so many medical office buildings there.

3494
05:28:15,350 --> 05:28:16,410
It's not just hospital.

3495
05:28:16,410 --> 05:28:18,830
There's constant in and out.

3496
05:28:19,070 --> 05:28:22,930
It's a tremendously busy place, ice-marre harbour.

3497
05:28:23,830 --> 05:28:26,330
And it's true about the shopping center,

3498
05:28:26,710 --> 05:28:28,930
the adjacent shop, the former shopping center.

3499
05:28:29,310 --> 05:28:34,650
I mean, we don't know what is going to be with that.

3500
05:28:34,650 --> 05:28:37,490
I would imagine that in the future,

3501
05:28:37,990 --> 05:28:42,370
there will be a need for parking by the physicians

3502
05:28:42,370 --> 05:28:46,390
and staff that use that former shopping center right now.

3503
05:28:46,390 --> 05:28:51,290
And so it just makes sense that they would be parking the parking structure so truly for me

3504
05:28:51,290 --> 05:28:51,990
it's a non-ish.

3505
05:28:52,090 --> 05:28:53,110
Thank you.

3506
05:28:53,370 --> 05:28:57,130
So I'd like to provide many reasons why I support this project.

3507
05:28:57,390 --> 05:29:03,010
So first, we talked about the increase in the increase parking capacity, which is clearly

3508
05:29:03,010 --> 05:29:05,910
important to Orange Coast Memorial.

3509
05:29:06,870 --> 05:29:09,170
I think that goes without saying at this point.

3510
05:29:09,710 --> 05:29:15,090
We talked about improving the traffic flows and I think the design does that and a thoughtful

3511
05:29:15,090 --> 05:29:23,610
away from Talbert, to Foster, Phillips, so I think that's an improvement overall in that area.

3512
05:29:24,370 --> 05:29:30,830
Third, the pedestrian bridge, as we heard, will increase safety by providing a dedicated

3513
05:29:30,830 --> 05:29:39,390
elevated parkway, and so hopefully we'll detour the unpermitted pedestrians, I think they

3514
05:29:41,350 --> 05:29:53,850
I truly believe the applicant has gone well above and beyond on all aspects of the design and particularly in the community outreach.

3515
05:29:55,150 --> 05:29:59,770
The number five, the planning commission has approved this unanimously.

3516
05:30:00,500 --> 05:30:05,940
Six, the pedestrian bridge itself, I think, is beautifully designed.

3517
05:30:06,480 --> 05:30:16,860
I mean, there's, there's world-stealed tubing, which is very expensive. I mean, these are some features that I think are really going to enhance that project.

3518
05:30:18,520 --> 05:30:25,420
There's over 500 letters of support, which should have been provided of the 20 speakers tonight.

3519
05:30:25,420 --> 05:30:34,240
17 were in favor of this project. And then lastly, I also have, you know, a story to tell

3520
05:30:34,240 --> 05:30:40,900
from our, our time there. My, my wife was diagnosed with stage two breast cancer in 2017.

3521
05:30:42,640 --> 05:30:53,780
And that triggered at least 50 trips over the next year, you know, and so we spent a lot of time with these

3522
05:30:53,780 --> 05:30:59,940
exact same issues of trying to find parking. And I remember the stress of, okay, this is

3523
05:30:59,940 --> 05:31:10,080
what's coming up. I can't find a spot, you know? And so I think this facility is more

3524
05:31:10,080 --> 05:31:17,740
than just another kind of place to build a parking structure. It has a deeper meaning for me personally

3525
05:31:17,740 --> 05:31:23,680
as well. And I think for those reasons I support the project. Any other questions from Council?

3526
05:31:23,780 --> 05:31:30,520
Yeah, I'm sorry one other. Um, so the resident to back sit brought up the

3527
05:31:31,380 --> 05:31:34,320
When they call those lovers or

3528
05:31:35,580 --> 05:31:36,180
Can

3529
05:31:36,180 --> 05:31:41,540
What can be done to help the people who live back there to

3530
05:31:41,540 --> 05:31:48,820
Whether you put up screens or something to to put you know block their view because they're they're right they're back there and

3531
05:31:49,380 --> 05:31:52,160
I wouldn't be happy if somebody was looking into my backyard

3532
05:31:58,750 --> 05:32:01,950
I'll start and Ted can jump in if I don't cover everything.

3533
05:32:03,110 --> 05:32:10,610
There are screens planned to be on the tower side on the north side of the parking structure

3534
05:32:10,610 --> 05:32:16,630
as to impact the look of it in the neighborhood, et cetera.

3535
05:32:16,630 --> 05:32:32,230
And so we have not screened on the south side and the west side as heavily because we felt like that the green buffer with all of the trees would help with that screening.

3536
05:32:33,370 --> 05:32:44,790
What we need to be careful about is that if we take screening we have to make sure that the ventilation remains natural through the center.

3537
05:32:44,790 --> 05:32:47,470
but there's no mechanical ventilation in that center,

3538
05:32:47,870 --> 05:32:50,930
because we didn't want to add that noise to the area.

3539
05:32:51,790 --> 05:32:55,630
So we want natural ventilation to go through that parking structure.

3540
05:32:56,450 --> 05:33:01,870
So we have to make sure that if we add screens on the south

3541
05:33:01,870 --> 05:33:08,250
or the west side, that we take some from the north side.

3542
05:33:08,250 --> 05:33:09,190
And I think that correctly.

3543
05:33:09,570 --> 05:33:11,470
Well, the north side is telbert, right?

3544
05:33:11,470 --> 05:33:11,730
Right.

3545
05:33:11,730 --> 05:33:16,070
So nobody's yard is being looked into on tell it.

3546
05:33:16,310 --> 05:33:22,690
It's the design of the building that we wanted it to be softened a bit with that screening.

3547
05:33:24,130 --> 05:33:29,510
So that is a purpose of the screening on that north side.

3548
05:33:30,010 --> 05:33:31,810
But we certainly can consider it.

3549
05:33:31,830 --> 05:33:37,070
We just need to make sure that the natural ventilation is balanced and that we don't put

3550
05:33:37,070 --> 05:33:45,090
extra screening in one place that is already covered up by trees or whatnot. So that's something that we can do.

3551
05:33:45,110 --> 05:33:52,750
Those trees will be five years. So even if we did something temporary, you know, I just need a commitment.

3552
05:33:52,910 --> 05:33:56,090
You guys are going to at least look into that portion for them.

3553
05:33:56,290 --> 05:33:58,050
We can certainly look into it more.

3554
05:33:58,870 --> 05:34:01,150
Okay, and if it's feasible, you'll do it.

3555
05:34:02,170 --> 05:34:03,730
If it's feasible, we'll do it.

3556
05:34:03,870 --> 05:34:04,190
Okay.

3557
05:34:04,190 --> 05:34:08,750
All right. Thank you. That's my boy.

3558
05:34:11,050 --> 05:34:15,290
I spoke with Ted earlier this week on conditions of approval for the

3559
05:34:15,290 --> 05:34:21,270
ventilation of the structure, and this will come back to you for a second reading.

3560
05:34:21,870 --> 05:34:26,430
Should you approve it tonight, but we will bring back also if you want to

3561
05:34:26,430 --> 05:34:28,890
amend any conditions or add anything.

3562
05:34:28,890 --> 05:34:53,230
But again, I was working with Ted on option 4, adding the screen on either of the west or south sides with language that would not necessarily transfer all the screening or have fully screened, but to so that we could verify that the structure will be able to be naturally ventilated.

3563
05:34:53,230 --> 05:34:57,250
That must be so worth it, right? I'm like, I don't remember talking to you. Not this dead.

3564
05:34:59,090 --> 05:35:06,970
This dead. Yeah. But that we will bring back at the next meeting of some proposed language for a condition that would

3565
05:35:06,970 --> 05:35:12,510
acquire speech subject to certain conditions. I'm sure the hospital wants to be a good neighbor,

3566
05:35:12,750 --> 05:35:16,570
so anything they can do, they I'm sure they will. Okay. I feel better.

3567
05:35:16,570 --> 05:35:25,430
I just have quick questions if the hospital would explore the possibility in the future

3568
05:35:25,430 --> 05:35:31,630
to perhaps answer some Council Member Harper's Concern, and my colleague here at Council

3569
05:35:31,630 --> 05:35:36,190
McGranis, that people are, you know, how can we leave it people parking in the neighborhood?

3570
05:35:36,830 --> 05:35:40,190
Perhaps once you have identified that well, you know what?

3571
05:35:40,210 --> 05:35:41,970
We don't need all this space.

3572
05:35:41,970 --> 05:35:46,370
perhaps, you know, possibly open up for

3573
05:35:47,790 --> 05:35:53,410
patient that really need, I don't know, you know, perhaps open up portion of it.

3574
05:35:53,910 --> 05:35:56,250
I don't know, that's, I'm going to leave that up to you.

3575
05:35:56,690 --> 05:36:01,190
Yeah, do you realize that for those who are there for like critical care,

3576
05:36:01,290 --> 05:36:03,090
or whatnot, that have to come back,

3577
05:36:03,270 --> 05:36:05,430
repeat the months at the month, like some of the patients,

3578
05:36:06,350 --> 05:36:07,950
and you know, calling them to have cancer patients,

3579
05:36:08,090 --> 05:36:10,010
perhaps give them a batch for that,

3580
05:36:10,010 --> 05:36:15,310
because they might go three or four months treatment. Perhaps open that up for them so you don't

3581
05:36:15,310 --> 05:36:20,430
have that overflow that goes into Nibba. Just just a thought. Thank you. It's a good idea.

3582
05:36:21,630 --> 05:36:28,290
Any other council comments? It's a really good idea. Okay. Right, I'll entertain a motion

3583
05:36:28,830 --> 05:36:34,690
on the side of them. Our second. Oh. There's a councilman, boy. Our second.

3584
05:36:37,330 --> 05:36:37,330
Okay.

3585
05:36:37,650 --> 05:36:40,290
Just American every the title. Yes, please. Thank you.

3586
05:36:40,290 --> 05:36:44,310
This is in order to the City Council of the City of Fountain Valley approving a mitigated

3587
05:36:44,310 --> 05:36:48,390
negative declaration and adopting a mitigation and monitoring and reporting program and

3588
05:36:48,390 --> 05:36:53,070
approving code amendment number 2401 to amend the Orange Coast Memorial Medical Center

3589
05:36:53,070 --> 05:36:57,090
specific plan to include modifications to the development standards that would permit

3590
05:36:57,090 --> 05:37:01,210
a freestanding parking structure in planning area three of the Orange Coast Medical Center

3591
05:37:01,210 --> 05:37:05,270
specific plan. I just want to verify any more discussion before we vote?

3592
05:37:05,810 --> 05:37:07,030
Nope. Okay, please vote.

3593
05:37:09,470 --> 05:37:10,830
We got this done before 11.

3594
05:37:10,830 --> 05:37:11,710
I

3595
05:37:15,330 --> 05:37:17,590
have number 10 passes for one

3596
05:37:23,250 --> 05:37:24,250
thanks everyone.

3597
05:37:26,330 --> 05:37:27,370
Okay, we're gonna move on to

3598
05:37:27,370 --> 05:37:33,370
administrative items item 11. Maybe we'll just take let's give like a couple minutes

3599
05:37:33,370 --> 05:37:36,930
recess and appreciate everyone coming out tonight.

3600
05:43:28,840 --> 05:43:30,460
We'll move in to administrative

3601
05:43:30,460 --> 05:43:37,200
items item 11 or what a contract to AAA oil ink does business as California

3602
05:43:37,200 --> 05:43:46,280
fuels and lubricants ink for unleaded and renewable diesel bulk fuel services presentation by Cassandra

3603
05:43:46,280 --> 05:43:48,040
Burkhardt, welcome.

3604
05:43:52,190 --> 05:43:55,690
Good evening Mayor and members of the council. The item I'm presenting

3605
05:43:55,690 --> 05:44:02,550
tonight is a proposed contract with Triple A oil for bulk fuel services. So the city purchases

3606
05:44:02,550 --> 05:44:08,470
bulk gasoline and diesel fuel for all our emergency vehicles. This fuel is delivered to above ground

3607
05:44:08,470 --> 05:44:15,110
located at fire station number 1 and 2, feeling fueling our fire apparatus and ambulances.

3608
05:44:15,910 --> 05:44:22,250
Our current contract with SC fuels expires on June 30, 2026, historically the city has

3609
05:44:22,250 --> 05:44:27,250
piggybacked off of other municipal agreements to secure short-term pricing, while the

3610
05:44:27,250 --> 05:44:34,170
satisfied the short-term staff decided to initiate a comprehensive IFB to transition to a multi-year

3611
05:44:34,170 --> 05:44:34,710
agreement.

3612
05:44:38,610 --> 05:44:44,190
So on March 10th, 1226, the city issued a comprehensive bid for unlettered and

3613
05:44:44,190 --> 05:44:50,810
renewable diesel bulk fuel services. On April 1st, one formal bid proposal was received from

3614
05:44:50,810 --> 05:44:58,930
Triple A oil ink. To ensure a competitive and fair bid process staff conducted a post solicitation

3615
05:44:58,930 --> 05:44:59,930
survey of

3616
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:17,320
All non-responding firms and a total of 14 non-responding vendors cited one of the three or all the three primary barriers to bidding. First, the volume of the bulk field did not meet logistical capacity for smaller regional suppliers.

3617
05:45:18,180 --> 05:45:21,980
Secondly, vendors cannot meet the city's performance bond requirements.

3618
05:45:23,520 --> 05:45:28,580
Third, prospective bidders indicated they cannot meet the specific delivery timelines,

3619
05:45:29,000 --> 05:45:32,100
or the renewable fuel-sourcing requirements of the city.

3620
05:45:37,530 --> 05:45:39,290
So here we have the contract breakdown.

3621
05:45:40,070 --> 05:45:47,850
So with this contract, fuel shall be ordered and delivered on an as needed basis with no minimum delivery volume requirements.

3622
05:45:47,850 --> 05:45:55,890
Pricing is based on 10 AM, LA, Opus, daily rack, average, plus a vendor, fixed markup.

3623
05:45:56,810 --> 05:46:00,770
The markup includes all delivery costs with no additional surcharges.

3624
05:46:02,050 --> 05:46:08,450
Quick overview of the chart here. On the first column, we have the rack average per gallon

3625
05:46:08,450 --> 05:46:12,510
for 2025. Next is the vendor markup on the next column.

3626
05:46:12,510 --> 05:46:23,710
And then after that, as standard taxes and fees, and second to last is the estimated total consumption of fuel that the city requires for diesel and gasoline.

3627
05:46:24,910 --> 05:46:38,950
Given that this market is highly volatile, we included a 10% contingency for margin, which led to our total projected annual cost equaling around $108,000 for this contract.

3628
05:46:41,860 --> 05:46:51,020
So next for the fiscal review, the adopted budget for fiscal year 2627 includes efficient funding for the contract.

3629
05:46:51,380 --> 05:46:59,640
There is currently $445,000 allocated for gasoline and diesel within the fleet management fund.

3630
05:47:00,740 --> 05:47:07,920
That total estimated costs for the entire initial three-year term is $324,000.

3631
05:47:08,940 --> 05:47:15,440
While this contract covers bulk fuel deliveries, there are many budget, is reserved for

3632
05:47:15,440 --> 05:47:22,200
fuel card expenses for vehicles, fueling at commercial stations, fuel card expenses cost

3633
05:47:22,200 --> 05:47:26,240
approximately $337,000 a year.

3634
05:47:30,400 --> 05:47:35,280
So staff recommends that the city council approve alternative number one, which is to award

3635
05:47:35,280 --> 05:47:40,800
contract to triple a oil ink for unlettered and renewable diesel book

3636
05:47:40,800 --> 05:47:45,220
bill services. And I'll be happy to answer any questions.

3637
05:47:45,780 --> 05:47:49,200
Thank you for your presentation. Open up to council comments for questions.

3638
05:47:50,680 --> 05:47:51,140
I do.

3639
05:47:51,920 --> 05:47:52,220
That's right.

3640
05:47:52,740 --> 05:47:58,100
I had a real concern with this that I talked to staff about before that's only one

3641
05:47:58,100 --> 05:48:04,980
bit around this. How many, I mean every city does there are many cities do this?

3642
05:48:04,980 --> 05:48:12,580
Right. I mean, it doesn't seem like it's that unique what we're asking for. It does the

3643
05:48:13,540 --> 05:48:20,740
AAA, it's AAA oil, who's winning this thing. I mean, do they supply every city around or

3644
05:48:21,620 --> 05:48:27,620
why are our restrictions too great that we're not getting other bidders?

3645
05:48:28,400 --> 05:48:32,520
Well, like I said, the three barriers were the volume that we're asking for.

3646
05:48:33,640 --> 05:48:40,900
to high to low. It was too high for smaller local retail chains or gas chains and then

3647
05:48:40,900 --> 05:48:46,860
plus the performance bond. We were asking for a performance bond. I know some studies they don't

3648
05:48:46,860 --> 05:48:53,440
require that but we were asking for that. Well, should we be asking for that? Is that too restrictive?

3649
05:48:53,960 --> 05:49:02,500
I mean why are we only getting one bid? Well our purchasing officers she just said that

3650
05:49:02,500 --> 05:49:10,340
was the three main barriers, was the volume, the logistics of it, because we asked for a 24-48-hour

3651
05:49:10,340 --> 05:49:18,540
business day range of time for the fuel to be delivered to us, and they weren't able to

3652
05:49:18,540 --> 05:49:23,780
other vendors were able to get that to us, and that's what we're asking for, it's 48 hours

3653
05:49:23,780 --> 05:49:25,200
to receive the fuel.

3654
05:49:28,440 --> 05:49:30,160
So, so

3655
05:49:33,460 --> 05:49:37,100
on the staff report, we cited the reasons. We can't exactly

3656
05:49:37,100 --> 05:49:41,540
staff. We can't answer their business reasons why they don't want to bid. We had 14 interesting

3657
05:49:41,540 --> 05:49:46,800
companies. So that's why we did. We looked the same thing. We have a concern. One bid does

3658
05:49:46,800 --> 05:49:51,140
that seem reasonable. Then we found out that that seemed reasonable. Then we looked at the pricing.

3659
05:49:51,860 --> 05:49:57,420
And the pricing is competitive versus where we were at before. And so as a result of those two

3660
05:49:57,420 --> 05:50:04,620
evaluations. If you look at the pricing, the gasoline drops 27%. Because really the gas, the gas

3661
05:50:04,620 --> 05:50:09,340
price stays the same. The taxes stay the same. We're talking about the delivery charges

3662
05:50:09,340 --> 05:50:15,440
essentially and so that we're paying before this 20% percent higher and then for the gas

3663
05:50:15,440 --> 05:50:21,020
and 41% higher. You told me that and that we saving money and I'm glad that we're saving

3664
05:50:21,020 --> 05:50:27,740
money and it sounds like it's something just sounds off. To me I just can't get my arms around one

3665
05:50:27,740 --> 05:50:33,000
better. We can look a little bit more into it but at this point in time yeah that's okay it's always

3666
05:50:33,000 --> 05:50:40,000
nice to get the extra bits. And then a dumb question, why do we use retail fuel stations when

3667
05:50:40,000 --> 05:50:46,640
we have this available? Is it cheaper at the retail fuel? It's not cheaper, it's a volume.

3668
05:50:47,160 --> 05:50:52,200
My inner stand is the volume. I haven't been here when it first got set up, but it's a volume,

3669
05:50:52,380 --> 05:50:57,300
but also to force every vehicle to go back to one of the fire stations to fuel up is also challenging

3670
05:50:57,300 --> 05:51:02,460
to. They weren't designed as a fuel station. You're going into the fire stations and

3671
05:51:02,460 --> 05:51:03,780
going to fill them up regularly.

3672
05:51:04,320 --> 05:51:07,000
But I see them on public works, trucks, and such

3673
05:51:07,000 --> 05:51:08,440
fill up this way, don't they?

3674
05:51:08,560 --> 05:51:09,560
Or do they use them retail?

3675
05:51:09,820 --> 05:51:11,600
They use a retail because they're all over the city.

3676
05:51:12,060 --> 05:51:14,220
Now, the question did come up from Vice Mayor Harper

3677
05:51:14,220 --> 05:51:16,780
before we were looking at the fire station about adding

3678
05:51:16,780 --> 05:51:19,900
a larger above ground fire or fuel tank,

3679
05:51:19,900 --> 05:51:21,700
and we will look at that, too.

3680
05:51:22,040 --> 05:51:22,140
OK.

3681
05:51:22,680 --> 05:51:24,200
All right, thank you.

3682
05:51:24,580 --> 05:51:26,420
That's a good one.

3683
05:51:26,420 --> 05:51:30,240
I want to ask a follow-up questions to my colleague here.

3684
05:51:30,240 --> 05:51:38,500
you mentioned that you require them to have a performance ball and other city are they doing it the same thing

3685
05:51:39,160 --> 05:51:43,240
and are they asking for a ball as well or are we the only one?

3686
05:51:44,100 --> 05:51:45,740
I want to be able to answer that.

3687
05:51:45,760 --> 05:51:49,980
I think our procurement officer should be able to answer that.

3688
05:51:50,040 --> 05:51:52,480
I can find out for you but

3689
05:51:52,480 --> 05:52:00,180
Because typically, when you ask additional, you know, bonds or insurance, it's cost more for business owners.

3690
05:52:01,000 --> 05:52:05,280
That causes usually transitions to whoever's need the service.

3691
05:52:06,640 --> 05:52:12,360
So, in the past, you know, do we have any historical data that we went to problem?

3692
05:52:12,400 --> 05:52:13,180
That's why we asked.

3693
05:52:13,440 --> 05:52:16,500
Well, we never went out to bid before for fuel.

3694
05:52:16,500 --> 05:52:22,900
this is the first time, so it was kind of a new endeavor for us, but our legal team said it

3695
05:52:22,900 --> 05:52:28,260
would be best to have a performance on too. So, recommendation there, so.

3696
05:52:28,560 --> 05:52:33,960
Sure. I can't wait no, it's not an important point today at decision, but in the future

3697
05:52:33,960 --> 05:52:38,360
to look at other city, how are they doing it? I mean, the county has to buy a few as well.

3698
05:52:38,680 --> 05:52:43,920
Other cities by few as well, are they asking for a bond? Just as a curious.

3699
05:52:43,920 --> 05:52:45,980
Okay, I can further look into that.

3700
05:52:46,120 --> 05:52:47,060
Thank you.

3701
05:52:49,220 --> 05:52:49,640
Okay.

3702
05:52:50,560 --> 05:52:51,760
I'll call for a motion on the item.

3703
05:52:51,840 --> 05:52:53,820
I make a motion to approve item number 11.

3704
05:52:54,060 --> 05:52:54,520
All second?

3705
05:53:10,710 --> 05:53:11,970
Just waiting for a count of number constant.

3706
05:53:12,670 --> 05:53:13,850
Oh, it didn't come up.

3707
05:53:14,450 --> 05:53:16,470
I don't have a voting screen.

3708
05:53:17,910 --> 05:53:21,070
It has item 11 and public speakers on the right.

3709
05:53:24,900 --> 05:53:26,260
No, there's no voting for me.

3710
05:53:28,660 --> 05:53:30,800
Well, I mean, yes, if you want to know.

3711
05:53:31,240 --> 05:53:31,540
Okay.

3712
05:53:35,720 --> 05:53:38,340
Thank you so much.

3713
05:53:38,520 --> 05:53:39,560
Got to go.

3714
05:53:40,160 --> 05:53:41,320
Okay, item 12.

3715
05:53:41,900 --> 05:53:45,860
Rehabilitation and resurfacing of Euclid Street from Slater Avenue to Talbot Avenue.

3716
05:53:46,060 --> 05:53:49,540
And Talbot Avenue from Brookhurst Street to Bouchard Street project number 2401.

3717
05:53:50,820 --> 05:53:53,120
Presentation by Engineering Associate Ryan Damon.

3718
05:53:53,700 --> 05:53:53,860
Welcome.

3719
05:54:02,400 --> 05:54:03,280
Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

3720
05:54:03,320 --> 05:54:04,120
Members of the Council.

3721
05:54:04,700 --> 05:54:08,860
Tonight we're excited to bring for your consideration the award of the construction contract

3722
05:54:08,860 --> 05:54:11,120
for the city's next arterial paving project.

3723
05:54:11,120 --> 05:54:13,980
The project limits will be a Euclid Street

3724
05:54:13,980 --> 05:54:15,880
from Slater Avenue to Talbot Avenue

3725
05:54:15,880 --> 05:54:18,640
and Talbot Avenue from Brooker Street to Bershard.

3726
05:54:20,260 --> 05:54:22,200
Similar to the previous paving jobs,

3727
05:54:22,360 --> 05:54:24,460
the scope of work includes pavement rehabilitation

3728
05:54:24,900 --> 05:54:26,480
by grinding overlay in the street

3729
05:54:26,480 --> 05:54:28,980
with fiber reinforced rubberized asphalt

3730
05:54:28,980 --> 05:54:31,640
as well as the reconstruction of sidewalks,

3731
05:54:31,640 --> 05:54:34,060
curb, gutter, and driveway approaches

3732
05:54:34,060 --> 05:54:37,240
to ensure ADA compliance throughout the project area.

3733
05:54:39,500 --> 05:54:48,500
Additionally, there are a series of trees on the west side of Euclid that have caused damage to the city's infrastructure to address the staff structure of the project with alternative bid items.

3734
05:54:48,980 --> 05:54:55,720
That will remove the trees and install landscape planners that are designed to match the existing conditions on the east side of the street.

3735
05:54:56,020 --> 05:55:03,480
Staff have determined that leaving the remaining trees in place would result in continued damage and additional repair costs in the future.

3736
05:55:03,480 --> 05:55:09,480
So as you can see, a couple pictures of the current conditions, the trees have been the

3737
05:55:09,480 --> 05:55:15,020
tree roots that have caused damage to the sidewalk, kerbs, gutters, and even the asphalt

3738
05:55:15,020 --> 05:55:15,520
street.

3739
05:55:17,620 --> 05:55:20,700
We're proposing to install five planners on the west side.

3740
05:55:21,200 --> 05:55:24,060
This is what's currently constructed on the east side of the street.

3741
05:55:24,680 --> 05:55:28,640
So we want to match and improve the corridor.

3742
05:55:30,120 --> 05:55:37,520
So staff solicited bids on April 16th and received nine competitive bids on May 14th with

3743
05:55:37,520 --> 05:55:43,200
Calmex Engineering being the lowest responsive and responsible bidder based upon the base bid

3744
05:55:43,200 --> 05:55:43,820
amount.

3745
05:55:44,480 --> 05:55:49,380
This total remains well below the engineers estimate of 3.1 million and within the project

3746
05:55:49,380 --> 05:55:50,240
to prove budget.

3747
05:55:50,440 --> 05:55:55,240
And as a result, staff recommends the inclusion of all alternative bid items for a total

3748
05:55:55,240 --> 05:56:03,200
out not to exceed $2,643,731.50 cents. The city hasn't worked with

3749
05:56:03,200 --> 05:56:06,680
CalMix Engineering, but they do have over 30 years of roadway

3750
05:56:06,680 --> 05:56:10,980
experience throughout Southern California. Staff also contacted their

3751
05:56:10,980 --> 05:56:15,280
references from recently completed Paving Projects and received very

3752
05:56:15,280 --> 05:56:20,000
positive feedback regarding their work'smanship, professionalism, communication

3753
05:56:20,000 --> 05:56:23,440
and communication with both agency staff and residents.

3754
05:56:25,650 --> 05:56:26,510
To ensure a

3755
05:56:26,510 --> 05:56:31,750
of oversight and quality control during construction, staff also recommends issuing a P.O. to

3756
05:56:31,750 --> 05:56:37,090
will then engineering from the cities approved on-call consultant list for construction management

3757
05:56:37,090 --> 05:56:46,370
inspection and material testing services in an amount not to exceed 141,196 dollars. Staffs listed

3758
05:56:46,370 --> 05:56:51,530
multiple proposals and recommends will then because they offer the best overall value. They have

3759
05:56:51,530 --> 05:56:56,710
extensive pavements, rehabilitation, experience, and they maintain an in-house material

3760
05:56:56,710 --> 05:57:01,030
testing laboratory that will improve efficiency throughout the duration of the project.

3761
05:57:01,750 --> 05:57:06,110
And if a proof tonight, construction is anticipated to begin this summer and be completed

3762
05:57:06,110 --> 05:57:07,390
later in the fall.

3763
05:57:11,880 --> 05:57:16,660
The total of proof project budget is 3.5 million and that's comprised of a combination of

3764
05:57:16,660 --> 05:57:20,860
general fund SB1, measure M and water and sewer funds.

3765
05:57:20,860 --> 05:57:33,580
The table on the bottom shows a breakdown of the project costs, and the total comes in under budgets under the budget amount at $3,058,100 and $48.50.

3766
05:57:35,180 --> 05:57:48,140
And accordingly, staff recommends that City Council will work the construction contract to CalMex Engineering and authorize staff to issue a purchase order to build an engineering for construction management inspection and materials testing services.

3767
05:57:48,140 --> 05:57:50,440
So thank you for your time, and I'll take any questions.

3768
05:57:50,820 --> 05:57:51,520
Right, I have a question.

3769
05:57:51,900 --> 05:57:57,000
So on the Euclid section, are the subtly property

3770
05:57:57,000 --> 05:58:01,760
of project limits, including the intersection of Talbert

3771
05:58:01,760 --> 05:58:06,520
and Euclid or does it end right where it includes the intersection.

3772
05:58:06,700 --> 05:58:07,620
Yeah, the intersection is higher.

3773
05:58:07,880 --> 05:58:08,600
It's okay, you beat up.

3774
05:58:08,800 --> 05:58:10,940
So that's important because that's probably one of the most

3775
05:58:10,940 --> 05:58:14,720
damaged intersections from, or I'm really the 405 project.

3776
05:58:14,720 --> 05:58:22,140
And then on the north, at the slater, Euclid intersection, is it the same that that entire

3777
05:58:22,140 --> 05:58:22,700
intersection?

3778
05:58:23,240 --> 05:58:25,860
Yeah, we're matching the, I'll see you from the existing page and project.

3779
05:58:26,080 --> 05:58:26,560
Very good.

3780
05:58:26,760 --> 05:58:27,060
Very good.

3781
05:58:27,520 --> 05:58:28,160
Any other questions?

3782
05:58:28,980 --> 05:58:29,560
That's from Granus.

3783
05:58:30,200 --> 05:58:30,940
And then we'll do it on you.

3784
05:58:32,820 --> 05:58:33,140
Nice marker.

3785
05:58:33,440 --> 05:58:36,560
Can you go back to the pictures of the trees?

3786
05:58:37,780 --> 05:58:38,180
Yeah.

3787
05:58:39,020 --> 05:58:44,700
So, in the next one, so this is, you said, this is going to be what it looks like.

3788
05:58:44,700 --> 05:58:53,680
like on the other side now. Okay, so there'll be a line of bushes on the bottom with the trees

3789
05:58:53,680 --> 05:59:00,680
like that. Yeah, just like that is about 45, 45 foot long planters that will match the

3790
05:59:00,680 --> 05:59:05,380
the other side. Okay, I think that's an improvement because the other side now it's just those trees

3791
05:59:05,380 --> 05:59:12,300
that are kind of lonely there and they get there under the under the power lines too. So, okay.

3792
05:59:12,300 --> 05:59:18,340
And I was another issue as well, the trimming from SEE is caused many of them to be decayed and diseased.

3793
05:59:19,280 --> 05:59:23,660
And so we'd like to leave them, but it also caused damage to future infrastructure.

3794
05:59:24,500 --> 05:59:25,720
Yeah, okay, thank you.

3795
05:59:25,980 --> 05:59:26,540
That's my grandest.

3796
05:59:26,580 --> 05:59:28,220
Getting to go back to the list of bidders.

3797
05:59:31,410 --> 05:59:31,870
It's late.

3798
05:59:32,190 --> 05:59:34,930
I'm tired, but I made a mistake.

3799
05:59:36,090 --> 05:59:39,130
You said you can include the alternative bid amount too.

3800
05:59:39,290 --> 05:59:44,010
If that's the case, why isn't elegant construction the lowest bidder?

3801
05:59:45,290 --> 05:59:52,750
When we got construction estimates for this project, the cost of asphalt fluctuated was fluctuating a lot.

3802
05:59:53,390 --> 05:59:58,730
We didn't, we weren't sure if the alternative work would be able to be included in this project.

3803
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:05,000
The bid to have this alternative bid item, if it was cost prohibitive,

3804
06:00:08,060 --> 06:00:11,460
and as a city, when we bid these projects out, we

3805
06:00:11,460 --> 06:00:19,160
we base it on the base bid amount. If it wasn't, if the project came in over budget, then we would have just awarded

3806
06:00:19,880 --> 06:00:26,400
the base work, which would be to remove just the most troublesome trees and do localized concrete repairs.

3807
06:00:29,110 --> 06:00:34,150
This gave us the flexibility to possibly include it if it fit into the project budget.

3808
06:00:34,950 --> 06:00:40,030
So, Rupert, comment, if you don't mind. Under the public contract code, we have to do it this way if we're going to do an alternate item.

3809
06:00:40,190 --> 06:00:46,450
We have to have a way that we're going to select otherwise the concern is cities will put a bunch of alternate bid items out and then.

3810
06:00:46,450 --> 06:00:52,750
Move one select one not the other and it will lead to favoritism so we're going to use alternatives which gives us flexibility to say we don't want that.

3811
06:00:52,830 --> 06:00:57,270
We don't want that to expensive. We have to have a set objective way of selecting the lowest bidder.

3812
06:00:57,270 --> 06:01:00,810
low-spitter here is basement amount so no matter what the alternatives are we go by

3813
06:01:00,810 --> 06:01:03,710
basement okay that explains it thank you

3814
06:01:05,820 --> 06:01:08,580
I'll move the item all second okay

3815
06:01:08,580 --> 06:01:12,180
please vote I can't vote though because my screen is still stuck in 11

3816
06:01:12,180 --> 06:01:14,300
yeah do a

3817
06:01:14,300 --> 06:01:16,120
voice point sure

3818
06:01:20,920 --> 06:01:27,220
did that fix it oh no it hasn't moved you don't get to vote

3819
06:01:27,880 --> 06:01:33,160
all those in favor say I I all those opposed I don't number 12 passes five

3820
06:01:33,160 --> 06:01:35,400
Thank you so much, Ryan.

3821
06:01:37,620 --> 06:01:38,960
The item 13,

3822
06:01:41,190 --> 06:01:43,690
approval resolution of the City Council of the City

3823
06:01:43,690 --> 06:01:48,930
Fav Valley, approving and authorizing permanent implementation of the

3824
06:01:48,930 --> 06:01:53,010
police officer and dispatcher hiring incentive program, presentation,

3825
06:01:53,410 --> 06:01:54,410
please captain Jared from.

3826
06:01:55,850 --> 06:01:56,190
Thank you.

3827
06:01:56,230 --> 06:01:56,810
Good morning.

3828
06:01:57,350 --> 06:01:58,030
Honorable Mayor.

3829
06:01:58,690 --> 06:01:59,630
You remember the City Council?

3830
06:02:00,470 --> 06:02:01,610
I mean, we're close enough.

3831
06:02:02,730 --> 06:02:03,870
How many about it?

3832
06:02:03,870 --> 06:02:08,510
Tonight's staff is requesting City Council approved to transition our police officer and dispatch

3833
06:02:08,510 --> 06:02:14,330
hiring center program from its initial trial period into permanent status. This proposal

3834
06:02:14,330 --> 06:02:20,490
directly supports our city's strategic goal to attract and retain high quality individuals.

3835
06:02:21,630 --> 06:02:26,010
To provide some context, this program is originally approved as a one year trial period

3836
06:02:26,010 --> 06:02:33,090
beginning in December of 2024 to combat our staffing issues. Currently, the police department is facing

3837
06:02:33,090 --> 06:02:37,730
12 police officer vacancies and roughly two dispatcher vacancies.

3838
06:02:39,270 --> 06:02:41,110
The trial period has proven successful.

3839
06:02:41,750 --> 06:02:49,050
From December 2024 through present, the city has expended a total of $30,000 in an employee

3840
06:02:49,050 --> 06:02:55,250
sign-on and employer referral bonuses alongside $200 of comp time.

3841
06:02:56,710 --> 06:03:01,410
To break down the data a little bit further in the past 18 months, we have brought in 13

3842
06:03:02,750 --> 06:03:10,910
recruits, representing $25,000 paid, and $32,000 in pending milestones. We've hired

3843
06:03:10,910 --> 06:03:15,730
two lateral dispatchers and one lateral police officer who received those bonuses. Furthermore,

3844
06:03:16,090 --> 06:03:19,930
our own personnel took an active role in recruitment, resulting in three successful employees

3845
06:03:19,930 --> 06:03:28,890
and employee referrals. This structured approach is no longer optional. It is a necessity to remain

3846
06:03:28,890 --> 06:03:31,310
competitive. Our direct neighbors and

3847
06:03:31,310 --> 06:03:32,590
peer agencies, including Westminster,

3848
06:03:32,890 --> 06:03:34,710
Buena Park, and the Orange County Sheriff's

3849
06:03:34,710 --> 06:03:37,730
Department, all utilized highly similar

3850
06:03:37,730 --> 06:03:41,430
incentives ranging from $10,000 to $15,000

3851
06:03:42,510 --> 06:03:46,050
in bonuses for new hires. The permanent

3852
06:03:46,050 --> 06:03:47,830
incentive structure will strictly mirror

3853
06:03:47,830 --> 06:03:49,550
the successful guidelines established during

3854
06:03:49,550 --> 06:03:52,390
our trial period. A lot of police officers,

3855
06:03:52,710 --> 06:03:54,390
they get up to $10,000 and that's broken

3856
06:03:54,390 --> 06:03:56,490
up into two separate payments. Once they get

3857
06:03:56,490 --> 06:03:58,550
hired and if they pass probation, they'll

3858
06:03:58,550 --> 06:04:00,570
with the last payment, which is $5,000.

3859
06:04:01,570 --> 06:04:04,350
For recruit, police officers and lateral dispatchers,

3860
06:04:04,610 --> 06:04:06,520
it's $5,000, and again, that's broken up

3861
06:04:07,030 --> 06:04:08,990
and into two payments once they get hired

3862
06:04:08,990 --> 06:04:10,050
and if they pass probation.

3863
06:04:11,030 --> 06:04:13,270
And then employee referrals, you get $2,000

3864
06:04:13,270 --> 06:04:16,090
if you refer somebody, they get hired

3865
06:04:16,090 --> 06:04:17,470
and then if they pass probation.

3866
06:04:19,770 --> 06:04:21,010
From a financial perspective,

3867
06:04:21,150 --> 06:04:23,750
I want to emphasize that no additional budget appropriations

3868
06:04:23,750 --> 06:04:24,890
being requested tonight.

3869
06:04:25,650 --> 06:04:27,130
The police department's personal budget

3870
06:04:27,130 --> 06:04:29,810
can have to completely absorb these costs through salary savings.

3871
06:04:31,210 --> 06:04:35,170
Therefore, staff recommends that the City Council approved alternative number one to permanently

3872
06:04:35,170 --> 06:04:38,770
implement the police officer and dispatch hiring incentive program.

3873
06:04:39,690 --> 06:04:41,670
Thank you, and I'm here for any questions.

3874
06:04:42,430 --> 06:04:42,910
Thank you, Captain.

3875
06:04:43,190 --> 06:04:44,310
Any questions from Council?

3876
06:04:45,150 --> 06:04:45,710
That's my book.

3877
06:04:49,660 --> 06:04:50,780
Thank you.

3878
06:04:51,040 --> 06:04:55,760
Officer Fran, how's the existing officer that's currently on the force?

3879
06:04:55,780 --> 06:04:57,040
How do they feel about this?

3880
06:04:57,040 --> 06:04:58,640
Are they supportive of this?

3881
06:04:58,820 --> 06:05:00,140
I mean...

3882
06:05:00,940 --> 06:05:02,960
Because you said staff, I just want to know

3883
06:05:02,960 --> 06:05:04,660
what about the police department officer?

3884
06:05:04,960 --> 06:05:05,740
How do you feel about this?

3885
06:05:05,900 --> 06:05:08,740
It is pretty morale for potentials and all that?

3886
06:05:09,080 --> 06:05:11,460
100% supportive of it.

3887
06:05:11,620 --> 06:05:12,840
Okay, thank you.

3888
06:05:14,500 --> 06:05:15,460
Any other questions or comments?

3889
06:05:16,560 --> 06:05:17,240
That's what I'm requesting.

3890
06:05:17,480 --> 06:05:19,020
Thank you very much, Lieutenant Fram.

3891
06:05:19,100 --> 06:05:21,240
Great presentation, and I love the program.

3892
06:05:23,780 --> 06:05:24,860
Thank you, ma'am.

3893
06:05:24,980 --> 06:05:25,400
Sure, all right.

3894
06:05:25,420 --> 06:05:26,720
I moved to approve, maybe have any questions?

3895
06:05:26,920 --> 06:05:27,500
A second.

3896
06:05:29,570 --> 06:05:34,230
actually think it doesn't go far enough to be honest. I think we have a critical

3897
06:05:34,230 --> 06:05:41,510
need in this area. We're short 12 officers. So for up to me I would do more.

3898
06:05:41,730 --> 06:05:47,770
Yep me too. Okay. What's that? I agree. Okay.

3899
06:05:53,270 --> 06:05:54,330
I had a number 13 past

3900
06:05:54,330 --> 06:06:01,630
this 5-0. Thanks so much. Guess it is up to me. I'm 5th. Next is item 14. Adopt

3901
06:06:01,630 --> 06:06:06,210
resolution to affect certain changes to the city's Master Salary Schedule and conformance

3902
06:06:06,210 --> 06:06:12,330
with Title II of the California Code of Regulation Section 570.5 and the California Public

3903
06:06:12,330 --> 06:06:18,010
Employees Retirement System presentation by Human Resources Director, Tanya Narehase.

3904
06:06:18,790 --> 06:06:19,250
Hi, good evening.

3905
06:06:19,810 --> 06:06:22,550
I know it's late, but thank you for having me today.

3906
06:06:23,890 --> 06:06:28,070
Tonight, I'm presenting an administrative item number 14, requesting council adoption

3907
06:06:28,070 --> 06:06:29,950
of an updated Master Salary Schedule.

3908
06:06:29,950 --> 06:06:35,470
I'll walk through the purpose of the schedule, the changes included in the recommended action.

3909
06:06:36,530 --> 06:06:44,590
As background, the City Council is responsible for establishing the basic compensation plan for all city employees across every classification.

3910
06:06:45,750 --> 06:06:53,250
In addition, Title II California Code of Regulation Section 570.5 requires all public agencies to maintain,

3911
06:06:53,730 --> 06:06:58,710
and publish a complete master salary schedule that is formally approved and adopted by the City Council.

3912
06:06:58,710 --> 06:07:03,450
Updates presented tonight ensure that our salary schedule remains compliant with state

3913
06:07:03,450 --> 06:07:07,970
requirements and accurately reflects the compensation actions already approved through

3914
06:07:07,970 --> 06:07:09,790
our MOU's and employment resolutions.

3915
06:07:14,240 --> 06:07:18,500
Updates included in this year's salary schedule are as follows, first the cost to live in

3916
06:07:18,500 --> 06:07:23,040
adjustments have been applied to full-time and hourly part-time classifications which have

3917
06:07:23,040 --> 06:07:27,620
a full-time equivalent consisting with the memorandums of understanding and employment

3918
06:07:27,620 --> 06:07:32,700
resolutions previously adopted by the council. These adjustments take effect in the paper

3919
06:07:32,700 --> 06:07:38,640
including July 1, 2026. Secondly, we've updated the hourly rates for several part-time

3920
06:07:38,640 --> 06:07:43,900
classifications specifically firefighter training, firefighter paramedic training, and police

3921
06:07:43,900 --> 06:07:48,460
recruit. These adjustments are to ensure alignment with the current part-time resolution.

3922
06:07:50,280 --> 06:07:55,260
In terms of fiscal impact, there's none beyond what has already been budgeted. These

3923
06:07:55,260 --> 06:08:03,980
Allure adjustments are fully incorporated into the fiscal year 2627 budget adopted by the council so no additional funding is required.

3924
06:08:06,300 --> 06:08:12,720
Staff is recommending alternative number one adopt a resolution affecting changes to the city's master's salary schedule.

3925
06:08:14,180 --> 06:08:16,040
Do you guys have any questions for me tonight?

3926
06:08:18,600 --> 06:08:19,560
Move to approve.

3927
06:08:20,200 --> 06:08:21,180
I'll second.

3928
06:08:22,300 --> 06:08:22,720
Good report.

3929
06:08:23,060 --> 06:08:23,640
Thank you.

3930
06:08:23,800 --> 06:08:24,140
Good night.

3931
06:08:34,980 --> 06:08:37,160
Item number 14 passes five zero.

3932
06:08:37,160 --> 06:08:55,300
Okay, next is item 15, amendment number 4 to extend contract number 2-1-1 from July 1-2026 through July 1-2027 with CityNet for homeless outreach services in the amount of 366,874 dollars

3933
06:08:55,300 --> 06:09:01,780
presentation by Lieutenant Robert Cortez and Captain Jared Fram, I'll go back.

3934
06:09:02,000 --> 06:09:03,520
Thank you, Mayor. Let's go out to be back.

3935
06:09:06,180 --> 06:09:10,020
In a moment, you're going to hear a presentation from Lieutenant Cortez and

3936
06:09:10,020 --> 06:09:13,800
representatives from CityNet regarding a recommendation to extend our contract

3937
06:09:13,800 --> 06:09:19,220
with their services. I was absolutely honored to lead our special operations bureau,

3938
06:09:19,340 --> 06:09:22,540
especially during a time of such uncertainty when it came to finding

3939
06:09:22,540 --> 06:09:27,740
viable solutions for a sustaining unhoused and improving the quality of life for our citizens.

3940
06:09:28,880 --> 06:09:33,140
Fortunately, the recent legislative changes and waivering support from the Chief of Police,

3941
06:09:34,100 --> 06:09:38,040
the City Manager, and the consistent backing of the City Council,

3942
06:09:39,220 --> 06:09:44,280
we have successfully found those solutions. I want to take a moment to recognize the individuals who

3943
06:09:44,280 --> 06:09:52,520
have done the heavy lifting on the ground. We have an amazing special operations team led by

3944
06:09:52,520 --> 06:09:55,840
and they're standing in the back for they've been standing and I think for about three or four hours.

3945
06:09:57,580 --> 06:10:06,620
Through their dedication, I'm sorry for their dedicated hard work alongside storm partnerships with other city departments, including public works, community service,

3946
06:10:07,360 --> 06:10:08,660
and the city of attorney's office.

3947
06:10:09,760 --> 06:10:12,860
We have dramatically decreased the number of unhoused individuals in our city.

3948
06:10:13,680 --> 06:10:16,980
You will see the impressive results of these efforts in our upcoming presentation.

3949
06:10:18,480 --> 06:10:22,480
What has truly made this entire initiative of work is our seamless collaboration with CityNet.

3950
06:10:22,480 --> 06:10:28,220
who are also here. They have been an invaluable asset in helping our team achieve these goals.

3951
06:10:29,540 --> 06:10:35,180
But as we all know, this work is never entirely done. Moving forward, we will continue to utilize

3952
06:10:35,180 --> 06:10:41,420
a compassion first approach when engaging with the unhaused while maintaining safety and a high

3953
06:10:41,420 --> 06:10:46,720
quality of life for all of our citizens. With that, I will turn the presentation over to Lieutenant

3954
06:10:46,720 --> 06:10:50,520
court has? Thank you very much.

3955
06:10:53,210 --> 06:10:56,830
Before I begin it, I want to first let everyone know that

3956
06:10:56,830 --> 06:11:00,970
that good morning joke with my joke, but the catficker for me. So, good evening, the

3957
06:11:00,970 --> 06:11:03,190
mayor, vice mayor, city council.

3958
06:11:05,390 --> 06:11:07,390
I'll keep it real quick. The captain already said a lot

3959
06:11:07,390 --> 06:11:13,230
of good words about our partnership with what's sitting at and our special operation bureau.

3960
06:11:14,090 --> 06:11:14,350
So,

3961
06:11:16,890 --> 06:11:20,730
over the past four years, city nets have become a trusted and valuable partner to the

3962
06:11:20,730 --> 06:11:23,510
City and Police Department and addressing homelessness.

3963
06:11:24,610 --> 06:11:26,630
Their team works directly with conduct health individuals,

3964
06:11:27,010 --> 06:11:30,490
helping connecting with shelter, medical care, mental health services,

3965
06:11:31,170 --> 06:11:32,770
and ultimately pathways towards stability.

3966
06:11:36,850 --> 06:11:38,730
What has made this partnership especially effective

3967
06:11:38,730 --> 06:11:42,570
is a strong collaboration between city and our police department,

3968
06:11:43,110 --> 06:11:44,770
specifically our special operation bureau.

3969
06:11:45,670 --> 06:11:47,770
City Network closely with our community resource officer

3970
06:11:47,770 --> 06:11:52,790
providing a compassionate and service oriented response

3971
06:11:52,790 --> 06:11:55,750
to individuals experiencing homelessness.

3972
06:11:56,810 --> 06:12:01,410
This collaboration allows officers to focus on public safety concerns while ensuring individuals

3973
06:12:01,990 --> 06:12:06,210
in the interconnected, with housing, mental health services and other critical resources.

3974
06:12:07,250 --> 06:12:12,690
The relationship has foster trust and proof coordination can help create more sustainable solutions

3975
06:12:12,690 --> 06:12:15,010
for some of our communities, most vulnerable residents.

3976
06:12:16,170 --> 06:12:18,030
The results speak for themselves.

3977
06:12:19,010 --> 06:12:23,830
Through 2026, there have been 109,000 successful street exits, helping individuals

3978
06:12:23,830 --> 06:12:29,390
transition from homelessness into stable, into stable housing, and supportive environments.

3979
06:12:30,570 --> 06:12:35,010
It is of equally important to note that this partnership has also played a critical role

3980
06:12:35,010 --> 06:12:39,630
and you are alive in our dedicated beds at the Central State East Navigation Center

3981
06:12:39,630 --> 06:12:43,570
where today, semi-sick individual, have been successfully placed.

3982
06:12:46,670 --> 06:12:54,110
These efforts have contributed to measure reductions, to measure where reductions here in our city of the homeless population.

3983
06:12:54,950 --> 06:13:02,900
The county's point of time counter identified 114 homeless individuals in 2024 compared to 44 individuals this year.

3984
06:13:03,690 --> 06:13:08,050
Representing a substantial increase, I believe it's about 62%.

3985
06:13:08,050 --> 06:13:10,310
Well, homelessness remains a complex issue,

3986
06:13:10,750 --> 06:13:11,790
but no single solution.

3987
06:13:12,470 --> 06:13:14,750
This progress demonstrates what can be accomplished

3988
06:13:14,750 --> 06:13:17,450
to consistent power reach a strong partnership

3989
06:13:17,970 --> 06:13:19,110
in coordinating response.

3990
06:13:22,920 --> 06:13:25,380
While this data demonstrates sitting this impact,

3991
06:13:25,780 --> 06:13:26,940
they only took part of the story

3992
06:13:29,070 --> 06:13:30,710
to provide a more personal perspective

3993
06:13:30,710 --> 06:13:33,090
on the meaningful work being done in our community.

3994
06:13:33,470 --> 06:13:36,210
I would like to invite and introduce Andrit Hernandez,

3995
06:13:37,030 --> 06:13:40,570
who is sitting that's L.A. and L.C. team supervisor,

3996
06:13:40,570 --> 06:13:45,910
who we're sure some success or success stories that call the ball comes through this partnership.

3997
06:13:50,780 --> 06:13:51,640
Good to see you.

3998
06:13:52,520 --> 06:13:55,540
Good to see you everyone again. May you're by Sumerier, Council.

3999
06:13:56,520 --> 06:13:56,880
Thank you, Lieutenant.

4000
06:13:58,560 --> 06:13:59,580
So success stories.

4001
06:14:00,360 --> 06:14:02,060
Let's go start with the first one.

4002
06:14:02,240 --> 06:14:03,060
Oh, they're just, yeah.

4003
06:14:07,140 --> 06:14:08,420
You're going to just talk about that.

4004
06:14:08,420 --> 06:14:08,600
Okay.

4005
06:14:09,540 --> 06:14:14,420
So the first success story involved a long-term client,

4006
06:14:14,420 --> 06:14:20,920
usually, like to hang around this area, cause a lot of noise disturbances, including affecting

4007
06:14:20,920 --> 06:14:21,880
a lot of our residents.

4008
06:14:22,960 --> 06:14:29,940
So with this client, of coordination with the police department, we were able to not only

4009
06:14:30,680 --> 06:14:36,540
make many interactions with her and eventually leading her to trust us.

4010
06:14:36,560 --> 06:14:41,680
She eventually was able to successfully enter shelter at the CCNC.

4011
06:14:42,760 --> 06:14:58,660
The first time didn't take granted, we didn't give up, we tried engaging her multiple times until eventually she's still there and she's finding lots of success along with the partnership with Daniel the Director at the CCNC.

4012
06:15:00,720 --> 06:15:13,240
That's only the first one. The second I'd like to share involves a woman farmer believe resident who was currently our was currently battling cancer and living out of their vehicle.

4013
06:15:14,700 --> 06:15:20,680
There's been many attempts with our law enforcement officers to make sure that they were getting the care they needed.

4014
06:15:21,480 --> 06:15:27,400
They did give her a lot of opportunities. She did have a vehicle that was nonoperable and just kind of taking it to space.

4015
06:15:27,400 --> 06:15:31,060
you know, piling a debris, all that sorts of that kind of thing.

4016
06:15:31,440 --> 06:15:33,220
Eventually she did accept resources.

4017
06:15:33,980 --> 06:15:39,560
She was promptly placed into a very stabilized location, again, also a CCNC.

4018
06:15:41,140 --> 06:15:46,340
And I'm sure you all have been communication with Mr. Daniel at CCNC.

4019
06:15:46,500 --> 06:15:53,220
A lot of the residents that we interact with here and refer to the shelter itself find a lot of success.

4020
06:15:53,220 --> 06:15:59,320
out of the three cities are clients, tend to retain their spot there the most.

4021
06:16:00,460 --> 06:16:05,520
The final one is a very recent one that I had privileged to be there myself during the

4022
06:16:05,520 --> 06:16:07,660
shelter transport.

4023
06:16:08,300 --> 06:16:14,600
This resident had, was actually fleeing domestic violence and she found a safe haven in

4024
06:16:14,600 --> 06:16:16,220
the parking lot of the Sam's Club.

4025
06:16:17,480 --> 06:16:23,020
Now obviously, that's not ideal for someone to be living in out of a parking lot with

4026
06:16:23,020 --> 06:16:27,780
all their belongings, hopefully dodging the abuser.

4027
06:16:29,000 --> 06:16:32,660
But she did find success, also at the CCNC,

4028
06:16:33,880 --> 06:16:36,180
not only with continued rapport building

4029
06:16:36,180 --> 06:16:37,880
and getting the trust of this individual

4030
06:16:38,520 --> 06:16:41,260
who for the right reasons was very, very apprehensive

4031
06:16:41,260 --> 06:16:44,500
at the first time, but her and her supportive

4032
06:16:44,500 --> 06:16:48,060
emotional support animal were very appreciative,

4033
06:16:48,420 --> 06:16:51,300
not only to the officers that took the time to engage

4034
06:16:51,300 --> 06:16:57,040
with her and offer solutions to her current dilemma and also impending safety.

4035
06:16:58,600 --> 06:17:04,980
She as soon as she was approved she was super grateful and again I have the privilege to be there

4036
06:17:04,980 --> 06:17:11,440
which I don't have very often being behind the desk most of the time but when during the transport

4037
06:17:11,440 --> 06:17:16,680
of it it just kind of reminded me that this kind of work is very important not only to the residents

4038
06:17:16,680 --> 06:17:22,600
that are suffering from their current situation of homelessness, but also to the residents around

4039
06:17:22,600 --> 06:17:27,180
so that way we make sure that the streets are cleaned up and safe for everybody.

4040
06:17:28,900 --> 06:17:35,620
The final one I want to talk about includes a long-term client that I'm sure everybody at the

4041
06:17:35,620 --> 06:17:41,940
city of Fountain Valley is familiar with. Well that naming names, they were a long-time resident

4042
06:17:41,940 --> 06:17:48,560
of Mao Square Park, particularly on the golf site, finding loopholes to set up a very large

4043
06:17:49,100 --> 06:17:56,360
tent. After about, I want to say a year, which was what we estimated about year and a half,

4044
06:17:56,620 --> 06:18:04,300
they were matched to housing and she, sorry, they are currently going to be moving to an apartment

4045
06:18:04,300 --> 06:18:10,520
complex within the next couple months and that will end the cycle of 20 years of homelessness for her.

4046
06:18:12,560 --> 06:18:23,860
And I was very, very, very fortunate to receive the congratulations letter on their behalf while the team also were CCed on the email and the big moment for us.

4047
06:18:24,320 --> 06:18:37,200
Definitely having the report there over many years, four years to be exact and having her just reject services outright and not having to do one and anything do with us or the police department.

4048
06:18:37,200 --> 06:18:47,640
So there's just a few of the ones that we decided to go with along with the other folks that were highly visible before and I'm open to any questions that y'all might have.

4049
06:18:50,740 --> 06:18:51,240
Thanks so much.

4050
06:18:51,640 --> 06:18:52,320
Any comments?

4051
06:18:52,560 --> 06:18:52,620
Yes.

4052
06:18:53,880 --> 06:18:56,940
We'll go with Councilwoman Constantine first and then.

4053
06:18:56,940 --> 06:18:57,580
Thank you.

4054
06:18:58,480 --> 06:18:59,280
So, Andres.

4055
06:19:00,240 --> 06:19:05,340
The first time I did approve the contract when you guys were new and then last time I did not approve it.

4056
06:19:05,340 --> 06:19:09,580
simply because I wanted the hours to be a little bit more

4057
06:19:11,440 --> 06:19:15,840
to be different somewhat, you know, a little bit of evening coverage,

4058
06:19:16,020 --> 06:19:19,260
a little bit of weekend coverage, and I saw that that was not the case.

4059
06:19:20,200 --> 06:19:24,260
I will, though, yes, this time. I do have faith in you. I have faith in our new

4060
06:19:24,260 --> 06:19:29,560
police chief and everything. I like the way this is all going, and while I do wish,

4061
06:19:29,760 --> 06:19:33,580
we had just a little bit of evening coverage, and maybe a little bit of weekends,

4062
06:19:33,580 --> 06:19:37,540
The program is working well, and that's all that matters.

4063
06:19:37,680 --> 06:19:38,780
Thank you so much.

4064
06:19:39,720 --> 06:19:40,340
Thank you.

4065
06:19:40,340 --> 06:19:40,640
Sure.

4066
06:19:40,640 --> 06:19:41,360
A little bit of a brand.

4067
06:19:41,400 --> 06:19:43,060
I just want to echo that.

4068
06:19:43,340 --> 06:19:46,240
The tremendous work on part of CityNet.

4069
06:19:47,120 --> 06:19:49,460
It's an entire team.

4070
06:19:51,840 --> 06:19:54,180
It's noticeable out there.

4071
06:19:54,440 --> 06:19:55,640
What an impact it's made.

4072
06:19:56,600 --> 06:19:58,300
So I think it's a lot of money.

4073
06:19:58,440 --> 06:20:02,300
It's a big investment from our residents to fund us.

4074
06:20:02,300 --> 06:20:09,080
Um, but I think it's, I think it's worthwhile and then you've done a tremendous, the whole team has done a,

4075
06:20:09,080 --> 06:20:11,080
a tremendous job, so thank you.

4076
06:20:11,300 --> 06:20:11,740
Vice-mahoffer?

4077
06:20:12,140 --> 06:20:16,400
Yeah, I just want to, I just want to point out that it's funded, I think it's fully funded with grants.

4078
06:20:16,460 --> 06:20:20,720
It's grant money, so I don't think it even comes out of the general fund, is that correct?

4079
06:20:22,100 --> 06:20:24,820
Yeah, yeah, so it's, so, you're even better.

4080
06:20:25,280 --> 06:20:25,960
It's in the grant.

4081
06:20:26,260 --> 06:20:26,820
Yeah, it's in the grant.

4082
06:20:26,820 --> 06:20:28,100
I didn't take it as fully funded.

4083
06:20:28,300 --> 06:20:28,920
I didn't take it as fully funded.

4084
06:20:29,780 --> 06:20:30,640
There's a portion.

4085
06:20:34,680 --> 06:20:44,320
Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I think I'd like to thank you to the officers that, you know, you're out there in the back on the front lines every day

4086
06:20:45,520 --> 06:20:51,880
Keeping our keeping our streets clean and helping the people that are that need help out there. So yeah, nice job

4087
06:20:53,620 --> 06:20:59,200
Thank you. That's been great. Yeah, the department we see about here at her in 35,000 for for the year

4088
06:20:59,200 --> 06:21:08,220
2019 to 2023. I believe for the grant money. My question for you is you say that currently there's about 44

4089
06:21:09,820 --> 06:21:16,420
homeless out there, right? Can you, I mean, I like to take a tour to see where those 44

4090
06:21:16,420 --> 06:21:23,520
count where they're at, throughout the city, on reason why I'm asking that is because I want to find out

4091
06:21:23,520 --> 06:21:30,900
if they are on the county area or in the city area. And if it is on the county area,

4092
06:21:31,400 --> 06:21:37,980
you want to see how we could cooperate with the county and address that. And perhaps on the

4093
06:21:37,980 --> 06:21:45,420
next cycle when you come back, the numbers can be smaller. I can actually shed some insight to

4094
06:21:45,420 --> 06:21:52,980
that. The 44 number was based on that day that was essentially all the volunteers, police department

4095
06:21:52,980 --> 06:21:57,840
and sitting at staff went out in that point in time.

4096
06:21:58,600 --> 06:22:03,940
Homelesses, I think, is fluid, you know, folks in nature are transient, so they will go back and forth between cities.

4097
06:22:04,460 --> 06:22:10,740
So that number of conflicts, wait, it just happened to be that point in time. It was 44, and I would say it's pretty accurate.

4098
06:22:11,480 --> 06:22:20,000
Our officers and our team know where all the hotspots are, including the ones that are not frequently visited, but can have folks at one given time.

4099
06:22:20,900 --> 06:22:25,000
But yeah, we would like to have you along and show you around where most folks like to congregate.

4100
06:22:26,160 --> 06:22:29,240
There are some spots that are definitely at a site out of mind.

4101
06:22:29,760 --> 06:22:33,060
And those are usually the ones that we encounter most folks nowadays.

4102
06:22:34,280 --> 06:22:34,820
Okay, great.

4103
06:22:35,160 --> 06:22:35,180
Yeah.

4104
06:22:35,260 --> 06:22:36,040
All right, let's move to see that.

4105
06:22:36,080 --> 06:22:36,640
Thank you.

4106
06:22:37,060 --> 06:22:39,820
The county is they do full enforcement.

4107
06:22:40,440 --> 06:22:42,500
No overnight period, right?

4108
06:22:42,580 --> 06:22:44,240
So I wouldn't expect it to be too many.

4109
06:22:44,680 --> 06:22:46,980
The county side you talk in Moscow, Park.

4110
06:22:47,500 --> 06:22:47,760
Correct.

4111
06:22:47,760 --> 06:22:52,500
I can't attest to the partnership also. While our team has been outreaching within

4112
06:22:52,500 --> 06:22:56,720
mouse square, they have to notice more presence from the Sheriff's Department in the

4113
06:22:56,720 --> 06:23:02,160
county side. So I can't share that. Unfortunately our team members had a leave. They were

4114
06:23:02,160 --> 06:23:07,100
reaching the 12th hour. However, they could be here to attestify that as well.

4115
06:23:13,000 --> 06:23:13,700
I'll move to approve.

4116
06:23:13,920 --> 06:23:14,660
A second.

4117
06:23:16,040 --> 06:23:18,880
Yeah, I just want to say thank you for coming out here this morning.

4118
06:23:19,680 --> 06:23:22,700
Thank you for everything that you do.

4119
06:23:24,000 --> 06:23:30,060
One of the highlights of the past year for me was to go on a ride along with Officer

4120
06:23:30,060 --> 06:23:37,760
Daniel Shaw and see firsthand the work that you all do and until you see it and experience

4121
06:23:39,100 --> 06:23:47,580
it, it doesn't quite have that impact but taking all of those actions together, we're seeing

4122
06:23:47,580 --> 06:23:53,380
results and it's because of you all so thanks for everything you do for making our city

4123
06:23:53,780 --> 06:23:59,300
safer and just better. Okay thank you it's boat

4124
06:24:05,640 --> 06:24:09,500
we go. I had a number of 15 passes

4125
06:24:09,500 --> 06:24:13,220
five zero. Thank you very much. Have a good morning.

4126
06:24:15,800 --> 06:24:18,000
Okay next is item 16 approval of

4127
06:24:18,000 --> 06:24:21,960
surface contracts for police telling services for a period of five years be

4128
06:24:21,960 --> 06:24:29,940
beginning July 1st, 2026 to June 30th, 2031, with an option of two additional one-year extensions,

4129
06:24:30,680 --> 06:24:38,720
presentation by police sergeant Jennifer Pratt. Welcome. This is for towing the police or police towing.

4130
06:24:38,940 --> 06:24:39,300
Police towing.

4131
06:24:41,320 --> 06:24:44,200
Some of them like that. Yeah. Good morning. Good morning.

4132
06:24:47,900 --> 06:24:53,560
So this is our RFP that we put out, the background in the purpose was the police

4133
06:24:53,560 --> 06:24:58,120
towing contract that we currently have expires on June 30th, 2026.

4134
06:24:59,000 --> 06:25:07,960
This is the city put out an RFP on April 2nd, 2026 and the objective of the RFP was to locate

4135
06:25:07,960 --> 06:25:13,280
and provide qualified towing operators to provide police-directed towing and services on a

4136
06:25:13,280 --> 06:25:19,240
of basis. Currently what we do is we have toe services from one company from the first

4137
06:25:19,240 --> 06:25:23,800
or the 15th and then on the 15th that's which is and we use the second company for the second

4138
06:25:23,800 --> 06:25:29,140
half of the month. So the services must comply with the found out in your spokeode and also with

4139
06:25:29,140 --> 06:25:35,440
the found belly toe policy guidelines and requirements. The procurement went out. We had six companies

4140
06:25:35,440 --> 06:25:41,140
look at the RAP for companies submitted proposals and the evaluation that we submitted to you

4141
06:25:41,140 --> 06:25:44,960
was based on the approach to plans, qualifications, and the past performance.

4142
06:25:47,360 --> 06:25:52,220
Ultimately, our facility inspections, we evaluated the following criteria.

4143
06:25:52,560 --> 06:26:00,980
It was based on their total yard location, outdoor storage capacity, indoor storage capabilities, security and surveillance, vehicle damage,

4144
06:26:01,740 --> 06:26:05,180
inspection resources, customer service, and operational readiness.

4145
06:26:05,980 --> 06:26:10,640
The final results that we came up with were the two companies that scored the highest

4146
06:26:10,640 --> 06:26:16,020
G and W towing in Southside towing. Our request is that the staff will approve.

4147
06:26:16,320 --> 06:26:22,340
Our staff request that the council approve their proposal for the two companies G and W on

4148
06:26:22,340 --> 06:26:22,800
Southside.

4149
06:26:30,270 --> 06:26:41,690
Are there any requests to speak on the side? We have five requests to speak

4150
06:26:41,690 --> 06:26:42,970
Kelly Moses.

4151
06:26:53,270 --> 06:26:53,670
Good evening.

4152
06:26:54,050 --> 06:26:55,270
Thank you so much for having me.

4153
06:26:56,410 --> 06:26:58,950
My name is Kelly Moses, and I'm the owner of best-towing service.

4154
06:26:59,030 --> 06:27:04,270
I'm here today to address the approval of the service contract for police towing services.

4155
06:27:04,830 --> 06:27:08,490
Best towing has provided the city of Fountain Valley with the police directed towing services

4156
06:27:08,490 --> 06:27:10,330
for the past 40 years.

4157
06:27:10,950 --> 06:27:14,490
We recently submitted our proposal and I see on the agenda tonight that the recommendation

4158
06:27:14,490 --> 06:27:18,610
is for south side towing and G&W towing to be a war at the contract.

4159
06:27:19,170 --> 06:27:21,910
This would be devastating to our business.

4160
06:27:22,570 --> 06:27:27,550
We have the staff, the equipment, and the storage already in place to continue with our services.

4161
06:27:28,030 --> 06:27:32,030
To lose this contract will mean we will have to sell equipment and do layoffs.

4162
06:27:32,750 --> 06:27:35,770
The significance of losing this contract will destroy us.

4163
06:27:36,390 --> 06:27:39,150
I want to bring it to your attention, a fact that has been overlooked.

4164
06:27:39,950 --> 06:27:47,650
The minimum requirement is for the business office to be located within a five-mile radius of the Fountain Valley PD at 1-0-200 Slater Avenue.

4165
06:27:47,650 --> 06:27:54,270
Southside towing does not meet that requirement, therefore they should not receive any further consideration.

4166
06:27:55,350 --> 06:28:05,230
I also want to address the scoring for inside stores GNW towing and Southside Bull scored a 173.33 and best scored 73.33.

4167
06:28:06,170 --> 06:28:12,970
Secured evidence and hold and GNW and Southside Bull scored 180, best towing scored 40.

4168
06:28:14,270 --> 06:28:18,170
I believe these scores are incorrect and best towing should be re-evaluated.

4169
06:28:18,610 --> 06:28:21,610
The large gap between scores tells me they're had to be of a stake.

4170
06:28:22,210 --> 06:28:27,230
Best towing serves as located at 7472 Warner for the past 30 years, and we have provided

4171
06:28:27,230 --> 06:28:29,730
the contracted towing services for a Fountain Valley PD.

4172
06:28:30,350 --> 06:28:36,090
We have never had a single problem with being able to store any vehicle inside or outside

4173
06:28:36,090 --> 06:28:36,970
and evidence.

4174
06:28:37,650 --> 06:28:40,670
Best towing service meets all the requirements related to storage.

4175
06:28:40,670 --> 06:28:47,310
We have 24 hour a day on-site personnel, block walls with razor wire, electric security gates, 24 hour videos, railings.

4176
06:28:47,910 --> 06:28:57,150
There's a log of every person that enters our secured light and individuals are escorting their vehicles and are never left unattended in order to preserve the evidence vehicles.

4177
06:28:57,950 --> 06:29:02,170
Southside does not have inside evidence storage available at their business office.

4178
06:29:02,990 --> 06:29:07,490
It is off site, which I believe they do not have personnel at that location 24 hours a day.

4179
06:29:07,490 --> 06:29:13,470
We have one centrally located business so it is much quicker and easier for a person to retrieve their vehicle

4180
06:29:13,470 --> 06:29:16,970
rather than having to go to multiple locations like Southside.

4181
06:29:17,510 --> 06:29:21,350
In addition to the meeting all the requirements I believe the services we have provided the city

4182
06:29:21,350 --> 06:29:24,810
a fountain valley for the past 40 years should be considered.

4183
06:29:25,690 --> 06:29:32,310
We have always maintained a professional working environment and have done nothing that would warrant us not to be granted this contract.

4184
06:29:33,310 --> 06:29:37,210
We are always open to making any adjustments requested by the PD.

4185
06:29:37,610 --> 06:29:42,050
We have never been asked to make any additional, any additions or changes to our facility

4186
06:29:42,050 --> 06:29:43,390
and the storage of our cars.

4187
06:29:43,870 --> 06:29:48,350
That is why I am so shocked to hear the scores that we were given and our facility being

4188
06:29:48,350 --> 06:29:51,830
the reason that we have not been recommended to award this contract.

4189
06:29:52,310 --> 06:29:57,190
I am asking for you to not vote on this matter tonight and to review the facts that I have

4190
06:29:57,190 --> 06:29:59,090
brought to your attention and for the committee.

4191
06:29:59,750 --> 06:29:59,990
I am so excited.

4192
06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:01,260
The recommendations.

4193
06:30:03,830 --> 06:30:05,050
Madison Moses,

4194
06:30:11,230 --> 06:30:12,010
welcome.

4195
06:30:13,430 --> 06:30:22,170
Hi, Mayor, and council members. I'm Madison Moses, the daughter of the business owner, Kelly Moses. I'm also an active member of the Community of Fountain Valley.

4196
06:30:23,170 --> 06:30:30,270
I'm a substitute teacher in the school district. I wanted to be here tonight to support what is being presented to you.

4197
06:30:30,270 --> 06:30:33,870
You have been informed that Southside Tone does not meet the minimum requirement.

4198
06:30:34,890 --> 06:30:42,350
And if you look on page 749, toe operators should submit documentation to meet the following

4199
06:30:42,350 --> 06:30:43,330
minimum requirements.

4200
06:30:43,970 --> 06:30:46,990
All requirements must be met at the time of proposal.

4201
06:30:47,490 --> 06:30:51,850
If these requirements are not met, the proposal may not receive further consideration.

4202
06:30:53,030 --> 06:30:58,850
I have printed out photos for you to physically see the five mile radius in green.

4203
06:30:58,850 --> 06:31:06,190
You can see south side towing is located far south side of Costa Mesa boardering Newport Beach.

4204
06:31:06,430 --> 06:31:11,270
This is it if you want to see, but it is in Costa Mesa Newport Beach.

4205
06:31:11,890 --> 06:31:16,790
I have also printed close-ups of their border.

4206
06:31:17,530 --> 06:31:22,190
The fountain valley police department is located here where we are.

4207
06:31:22,190 --> 06:31:35,450
And you can see that the five mile radius in green is clearly shows that FEPD is outside of the five mile radius, which will automatically disqualify them.

4208
06:31:35,730 --> 06:31:39,830
This requirement is very important because we need to respond quickly within 20 minutes.

4209
06:31:40,130 --> 06:31:44,450
Being that far out of this city will make it nearly impossible to make that ETA.

4210
06:31:45,250 --> 06:31:49,090
The business is a family business and it was started by my grandpa.

4211
06:31:49,870 --> 06:31:55,270
It means a lot to our family, but not only our families, the families that are employed by us.

4212
06:31:55,510 --> 06:32:01,370
I grew up going to this company and seeing these workers, and they have become part of our family.

4213
06:32:01,830 --> 06:32:08,750
And without this business and without this contract, you're not just putting my family at risk, but a lot of others.

4214
06:32:09,030 --> 06:32:16,390
So I ask you to please see the dedication and commitment that best-toing service has given to the City of Fountain Valley for over 40 years

4215
06:32:16,390 --> 06:32:19,590
and that you will continue to be a part of our success.

4216
06:32:20,070 --> 06:32:23,130
I would recommend to the mayor and city council members to recognize

4217
06:32:23,130 --> 06:32:28,390
Southside does not meet the minimum requirement, and therefore should be taken out of consideration

4218
06:32:29,090 --> 06:32:31,670
of being awarded the towing contract.

4219
06:32:32,730 --> 06:32:38,730
And since I have more time, the numbers just really don't make sense when you look at them.

4220
06:32:38,730 --> 06:32:47,830
I feel like it's worth looking back and re-evaluating the site and just giving us another

4221
06:32:47,830 --> 06:32:48,270
chance.

4222
06:32:48,490 --> 06:32:52,550
This would really be detrimental to a lot of people in the community.

4223
06:32:53,130 --> 06:32:53,990
Thank you.

4224
06:32:57,630 --> 06:32:58,470
Thank you.

4225
06:33:06,910 --> 06:33:07,050
Thank you.

4226
06:33:07,370 --> 06:33:07,910
Good to see you.

4227
06:33:10,130 --> 06:33:12,150
Can't Hammond over?

4228
06:33:16,840 --> 06:33:17,360
Welcome.

4229
06:33:19,060 --> 06:33:19,460
Thank you.

4230
06:33:19,980 --> 06:33:22,960
Arnold Merra and members of the City Council.

4231
06:33:23,920 --> 06:33:25,020
My name is Kent Hammond.

4232
06:33:25,020 --> 06:33:27,440
I'm a manager of best-towing service.

4233
06:33:28,360 --> 06:33:31,760
I've worked for this amazing company for the past 20 years.

4234
06:33:32,480 --> 06:33:35,860
I'm here today to request best-towing via water

4235
06:33:35,860 --> 06:33:40,300
of the fountainbelly-towing contract based on our past performance over

4236
06:33:40,300 --> 06:33:43,160
the 40 years we have held the contract.

4237
06:33:44,180 --> 06:33:52,020
We have always supported Found Valley PD and consistently provided exceptional service to the patrons of Found Valley.

4238
06:33:52,880 --> 06:33:58,380
We are an ethical company that is committed to performing at the highest level.

4239
06:34:00,140 --> 06:34:09,240
If we were to lose the opportunity to be awarded the Toing Contract, it will significantly affect the loyal employees of best-towing service.

4240
06:34:09,240 --> 06:34:13,160
Many of our employees have been with us for 20 years.

4241
06:34:14,760 --> 06:34:19,400
They know the police officers, which allows us a great working relationship.

4242
06:34:20,240 --> 06:34:24,740
We have put our heart and soul into best-towing service as an employee

4243
06:34:24,740 --> 06:34:28,220
I can say that this is the best company I've ever worked for.

4244
06:34:29,560 --> 06:34:39,220
And I would hate to see the destruction this company will endure if we lose our

4245
06:34:39,220 --> 06:34:45,280
So heart-preserved over the many years we have provided service.

4246
06:34:45,540 --> 06:34:52,360
I truly believe awarding best-towing the contract will not only be a benefit found valid

4247
06:34:52,360 --> 06:34:57,140
police department based on the longstanding great working relationship,

4248
06:34:57,380 --> 06:35:01,040
in addition to being able to continue providing service

4249
06:35:01,040 --> 06:35:06,320
and meeting all the requirements set forth by the city.

4250
06:35:06,320 --> 06:35:14,760
We are also the only AAA contractor that serves as Found Valley, the City of Found Valley.

4251
06:35:15,540 --> 06:35:21,620
So when there's an accident or a stranded vehicle in the city, and they are a AAA member,

4252
06:35:21,960 --> 06:35:23,720
we are the tow company that's called.

4253
06:35:27,780 --> 06:35:28,700
Sorry about that.

4254
06:35:31,580 --> 06:35:39,560
Best time is also closest company to one zero, two zero zero slater.

4255
06:35:39,560 --> 06:35:49,760
This building were 2.7 miles away, south side is further than five miles, as a crow flies.

4256
06:35:53,220 --> 06:36:00,460
This allowed even to be eligible to be awarded the contract in almost 10 miles driving.

4257
06:36:01,680 --> 06:36:06,880
We have worked without incident in providing safe and secure facility and storage.

4258
06:36:06,880 --> 06:36:14,660
Our facility is always met and exceeded the requirements of city and I know that Kelly would do anything

4259
06:36:14,660 --> 06:36:18,340
for PD request to improve our facility.

4260
06:36:19,340 --> 06:36:21,920
We will do anything not to lose this contract.

4261
06:36:22,140 --> 06:36:27,540
I am asking the mayor and city council members not to approve the recommendations awarded.

4262
06:36:28,000 --> 06:36:29,380
Can't your time's up, I'm sorry.

4263
06:36:30,880 --> 06:36:31,560
Dave Moses.

4264
06:36:40,180 --> 06:36:41,000
Thank you.

4265
06:36:41,220 --> 06:36:41,540
Good morning.

4266
06:36:43,320 --> 06:36:48,900
Mayor and honorable council members, thank you for allowing me this time and staying out this

4267
06:36:48,900 --> 06:36:49,160
late.

4268
06:36:50,020 --> 06:36:51,780
I realize that this is well past.

4269
06:36:52,760 --> 06:36:58,420
My bed time as well is probably most of yours as well, but let me get to the matter.

4270
06:36:59,440 --> 06:37:00,420
I'm Kelly's husband.

4271
06:37:01,220 --> 06:37:09,080
I also work at best telling, I watch John Bond who is my wife's husband and the best father-in-law

4272
06:37:09,080 --> 06:37:16,480
a man could ever have build this company and he built it right beside you guys for 40 years.

4273
06:37:17,040 --> 06:37:23,500
He was working with you guys going out of his house in the middle of the night picking up cars

4274
06:37:23,500 --> 06:37:29,940
so that people in fountain valley are safe and secure and working hand in hand with both the police

4275
06:37:29,940 --> 06:37:37,460
department and the fire department. So we're reliable, we're trustworthy, we're carrying business

4276
06:37:37,460 --> 06:37:44,520
that we are today then John got cancer and he fought it and he turned over the business to

4277
06:37:44,520 --> 06:37:54,400
his daughter and me watching my wife step in and take control of best. It let John fight his cancer

4278
06:37:54,400 --> 06:38:04,640
and inevitably he lost that fight and we have taken on a best tone and her capable hands and just

4279
06:38:04,640 --> 06:38:12,420
seen her work side by side with both Triple A, Fountain Valley, CHP and Huntington Beach Police

4280
06:38:12,420 --> 06:38:19,720
Department, whom we've had relationships with for over 35 years with those departments

4281
06:38:19,720 --> 06:38:20,940
as well.

4282
06:38:22,360 --> 06:38:26,300
To lose this contract would be devastating to us.

4283
06:38:26,300 --> 06:38:28,440
We just hired two new employees.

4284
06:38:29,220 --> 06:38:30,680
We bought two new trucks.

4285
06:38:30,680 --> 06:38:35,060
We have the newest fleet in all of the area.

4286
06:38:35,520 --> 06:38:38,380
We work with AAA and they tell us time and time again.

4287
06:38:38,820 --> 06:38:39,700
How do you guys do it?

4288
06:38:39,700 --> 06:38:40,980
How do you get no equipment?

4289
06:38:41,480 --> 06:38:46,680
How do you put money back in to both Huntington Beach and Fountain Valley?

4290
06:38:47,880 --> 06:38:48,820
It's because we care.

4291
06:38:49,500 --> 06:38:53,260
It's because we care about the citizens of Fountain Valley

4292
06:38:53,260 --> 06:38:57,660
and we want the best for them and we love working with you guys.

4293
06:38:58,720 --> 06:39:04,020
Over the past 40 years, we've never had a disciplinary action taken against this.

4294
06:39:04,020 --> 06:39:08,380
We've never had a problem with the Fountain Valley Police Department, the Huntington Beach

4295
06:39:08,380 --> 06:39:10,180
Police Department, the CHP.

4296
06:39:11,600 --> 06:39:21,080
So I just can't get my head around how we didn't get the contract, how the numbers are

4297
06:39:21,080 --> 06:39:26,960
so different from the other two companies that haven't done it for 40 years.

4298
06:39:26,960 --> 06:39:35,640
We have the same property, we have the same evidence looms, you know, that the thing is

4299
06:39:36,080 --> 06:39:40,520
Sussite does not meet the minimum requirements that you guys set.

4300
06:39:41,060 --> 06:39:42,620
They are not within five miles.

4301
06:39:43,240 --> 06:39:47,680
They are ten miles driving to where you guys are at,

4302
06:39:47,820 --> 06:39:48,780
Dave, you're talking about that.

4303
06:39:49,060 --> 06:39:50,140
Right down the road.

4304
06:39:51,500 --> 06:39:55,900
So please take in consideration the 40 years that we've served together.

4305
06:39:59,160 --> 06:39:59,660
I

4306
06:40:13,610 --> 06:40:15,250
have no further request to speak.

4307
06:40:15,810 --> 06:40:16,850
Okay, thank you.

4308
06:40:17,790 --> 06:40:19,930
Oh, a little bit up to council comments.

4309
06:40:24,050 --> 06:40:24,490
Vice-meroper?

4310
06:40:26,620 --> 06:40:29,740
Yeah, I would like to, I guess,

4311
06:40:31,500 --> 06:40:35,520
request the evaluators, the foot from the police maybe.

4312
06:40:41,120 --> 06:40:43,540
So, on the scoring of the proposals,

4313
06:40:44,980 --> 06:40:47,080
I'm just trying to get to that page.

4314
06:40:48,580 --> 06:40:52,000
Yeah, it looks like page 743 of the agenda,

4315
06:40:54,700 --> 06:40:56,020
page 3 of the staff report,

4316
06:40:58,260 --> 06:40:59,100
if you could

4317
06:40:59,100 --> 06:40:59,400
maybe.

4318
06:40:59,400 --> 06:41:00,640
I don't have that with you.

4319
06:41:00,640 --> 06:41:02,280
Can you put that up on the screen?

4320
06:41:18,380 --> 06:41:21,020
That's on page 743 of the staff report,

4321
06:41:37,310 --> 06:41:40,970
so I do agree, they do bring up an interesting

4322
06:41:40,970 --> 06:41:41,290
point.

4323
06:41:41,310 --> 06:41:47,990
If you look at the center column with the scores, the inside storage says 173, then 73,

4324
06:41:47,990 --> 06:41:58,940
the other ones 173 that secured evidence is 180 40 and 180 so it does it does look a little

4325
06:41:59,690 --> 06:42:04,830
strange is kind of looking at it not knowing anything about it do you I mean are you have

4326
06:42:04,830 --> 06:42:10,480
you had a chance to review the scoring and kind of verify those numbers are accurate or

4327
06:42:11,780 --> 06:42:17,340
So there were three evaluators that conducted these numbers.

4328
06:42:17,680 --> 06:42:22,440
I can speak for mine and in speaking with the other ones and yes, we verified these.

4329
06:42:22,640 --> 06:42:28,680
They were all reviewed and it was done in a fair and impartial process.

4330
06:42:29,280 --> 06:42:36,760
We evaluated each of the documents that were submitted by each company and like I said,

4331
06:42:36,800 --> 06:42:39,100
it was based on the criteria that they gave.

4332
06:42:39,100 --> 06:42:48,900
Okay, and what about the I guess five mile radius excuse me the five mile radius quite criteria. If you go that's on page

4333
06:42:51,440 --> 06:42:53,040
740 let's see where

4334
06:42:55,310 --> 06:42:57,410
it is 749

4335
06:43:00,090 --> 06:43:08,650
So the the way that it's worded is says that the business needs to be within five miles of fountain valley police department

4336
06:43:11,370 --> 06:43:20,310
the business office. Yeah, there you go. Um, when we spoke to,

4337
06:43:22,480 --> 06:43:24,020
I'm sorry, uh,

4338
06:43:24,040 --> 06:43:29,660
south side, Tony. No, well, south side, Tony. Yes, but when we spoke to, uh,

4339
06:43:29,660 --> 06:43:33,420
Amanda, when we put out the RFP, we verified that it was okay because by

4340
06:43:33,420 --> 06:43:39,660
way the crow flies, the distance from the city of Vountain Valley to both G and W and to south

4341
06:43:39,660 --> 06:43:42,980
side is by miles from the city of found valley.

4342
06:43:43,300 --> 06:43:47,040
Yeah, according to my Google maps, it's actually more than five miles.

4343
06:43:48,600 --> 06:43:51,700
So I don't know if that would necessarily

4344
06:43:51,700 --> 06:43:53,760
disqualify the proposal or not.

4345
06:43:53,820 --> 06:43:57,940
Is it from City Hall or is it from anywhere from the city?

4346
06:43:58,280 --> 06:44:01,500
And we've any part of that was okay that their business

4347
06:44:01,500 --> 06:44:04,920
office from the city of found valley was because we actually

4348
06:44:08,240 --> 06:44:12,940
I'm questioning whether Google was the driving route or as the way the crow flies which is

4349
06:44:12,940 --> 06:44:17,260
direct in over any building straight line between two points and apparently the purchasing

4350
06:44:17,260 --> 06:44:22,440
officer is interpreted as by the way the crow flies. So if you draw a five mile circle around FEPD

4351
06:44:22,980 --> 06:44:28,020
any business falling within that circle would qualify. Yeah, I think they're outside the circle.

4352
06:44:28,620 --> 06:44:29,620
That's my.

4353
06:44:29,680 --> 06:44:30,640
That's my.

4354
06:44:31,440 --> 06:44:31,760
P.D.

4355
06:44:31,840 --> 06:44:33,020
So, yes, I see.

4356
06:44:33,880 --> 06:44:36,080
So, so my.

4357
06:44:36,360 --> 06:44:36,860
Our understanding.

4358
06:44:37,420 --> 06:44:43,020
It was accepted by the purchasing director and we asked if it was within the city.

4359
06:44:44,260 --> 06:44:46,260
Um, because it was with with.

4360
06:44:46,280 --> 06:44:47,800
With by miles of the city.

4361
06:44:48,740 --> 06:44:49,620
Um, I think.

4362
06:44:50,400 --> 06:44:53,520
Whether that was the city of Mountain Valley or the city.

4363
06:44:53,520 --> 06:44:59,940
So they're looking at Garfield and Brookhurst not city hall. Okay, but I'm just pointing out

4364
06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:14,760
In the RFP, that's kind of what it says. Correct. I understand what you're saying. What you're asking when we asked for clarification, the understanding that we got back was it was by way of the crow flies. It was within five miles of the city.

4365
06:45:15,700 --> 06:45:20,840
Our contract we went through with that. And again, after reviewing everything.

4366
06:45:22,300 --> 06:45:32,740
With all of the other criteria, even that one excluded, we still felt that Southside and

4367
06:45:32,740 --> 06:45:41,800
GNW provided better service for what we were looking for and could better suit the needs

4368
06:45:41,800 --> 06:45:43,540
of the city of Fountain Valley at this time.

4369
06:45:43,540 --> 06:45:44,080
Okay.

4370
06:45:47,590 --> 06:45:54,430
You know the questions. Yeah. I was looking at the chart actually you know full for all

4371
06:45:55,290 --> 06:45:58,870
best-towing performance is not that bad for example in the procurement

4372
06:46:00,130 --> 06:46:07,210
that which is up for 742. There were second, right? I'm sorry.

4373
06:46:07,870 --> 06:46:15,130
The page 742. Okay. On the on the procurement. Okay. So best-towing perform pretty well. They came in second.

4374
06:46:16,390 --> 06:46:20,670
But then we, when you go down to, to, to, to, uh,

4375
06:46:20,670 --> 06:46:26,660
Vice Mayor Harper points is where the lack performance is really in the

4376
06:46:27,250 --> 06:46:31,750
operation and facilitated security, uh, security, uh, above that,

4377
06:46:31,810 --> 06:46:36,520
which is security in evidence home. My question would be, the years that they've been

4378
06:46:37,090 --> 06:46:41,600
circused the city of Farn Valley, has that any really issue with,

4379
06:46:42,440 --> 06:46:44,660
Secure evidence that's been on hold.

4380
06:46:46,810 --> 06:46:51,470
So if they never had an issue, so how's it important to the evaluator?

4381
06:46:52,470 --> 06:46:52,630
Scoring.

4382
06:46:54,590 --> 06:46:58,850
So they have then I could see the legal aspect of it.

4383
06:46:59,110 --> 06:46:59,890
Yeah. Okay.

4384
06:47:01,310 --> 06:47:06,390
Would it be commit to improve that? So next time it would be better on the evaluator?

4385
06:47:07,810 --> 06:47:14,330
That's more important if they have historical data that lead me to believe that it is a concerning

4386
06:47:14,330 --> 06:47:18,330
because they have record that it's that create an issue.

4387
06:47:18,590 --> 06:47:23,390
But if they don't have a record, it's a management of the business that they need to improve.

4388
06:47:24,490 --> 06:47:31,290
That's only thing, but over that, that's where we live where the score will be dropped.

4389
06:47:32,050 --> 06:47:34,190
In that aspect, and of course, in science storage.

4390
06:47:34,910 --> 06:47:39,790
That's a little bit, you know, do a bit to some house cleaning in the business to sort it out.

4391
06:47:39,790 --> 06:47:40,750
Like in an improvisation?

4392
06:47:41,370 --> 06:47:41,910
Yeah, yeah.

4393
06:47:42,030 --> 06:47:42,250
I'm sure.

4394
06:47:43,250 --> 06:47:43,450
Okay.

4395
06:47:44,550 --> 06:47:49,770
So the inside storage was in the secure and evidence hold was the concern for us.

4396
06:47:49,810 --> 06:47:53,410
Obviously, we deal with security and chain of custody.

4397
06:47:53,670 --> 06:47:55,070
We deal with the DA's office.

4398
06:47:55,450 --> 06:47:59,730
So anytime we have a fatal traffic collision, that becomes a concern for us.

4399
06:47:59,730 --> 06:48:12,410
both G and W and Southside towing have more up-to-date and secure, secure storage, meaning that in order to access their secure storage or their evidence storage,

4400
06:48:13,110 --> 06:48:21,050
there is a lockpad process to get through that. There's a chain of custody where you have to sign in and out everything is tracked.

4401
06:48:21,270 --> 06:48:26,810
They have more room for evidence storage. We're not competing with spaces in such a limited space.

4402
06:48:26,810 --> 06:48:31,370
Unfortunately, best only has six bases available that we share with

4403
06:48:32,150 --> 06:48:35,770
CHP and Huntington Beach, G&W, and Sausside.

4404
06:48:36,010 --> 06:48:41,090
They offer more storage and availability for us when we have fatal traffic collisions or evidence

4405
06:48:41,090 --> 06:48:49,370
hold for the detectives and security and chain of custody were huge problems for us that we needed to make sure that we were addressing.

4406
06:48:50,830 --> 06:48:54,510
It's a liability issue, as I'm sure you can understand.

4407
06:48:54,810 --> 06:48:59,990
We don't want to lose criminal cases, because the chain of custody isn't properly

4408
06:48:59,990 --> 06:49:00,470
followed.

4409
06:49:01,270 --> 06:49:05,110
I guess at this point, I'm glad to ask you the question back to our city attorney as the

4410
06:49:05,110 --> 06:49:14,210
requirements and rules on the five-mile radius, right, because they clearly fall outside

4411
06:49:14,210 --> 06:49:21,690
that requirement rules. So if we approve this, we pretty much are not following the

4412
06:49:21,690 --> 06:49:26,830
word self. So what's your thought on that? So the RFP says shall be within five miles

4413
06:49:26,830 --> 06:49:30,910
of found out by police department. That's a must. It's a

4414
06:49:30,910 --> 06:49:36,530
youth. It's a shell. So technically to me, the salad with his out, the rules

4415
06:49:36,530 --> 06:49:45,810
to show. So that's a must. So we can't. Again, the staff came back and said,

4416
06:49:48,350 --> 06:49:49,610
as of this within

4417
06:49:49,610 --> 06:49:58,390
the city of Mount Valley. So that's the way it was interpreted not city hall. Yeah, it does

4418
06:49:58,390 --> 06:50:03,930
say the end of the first program so that if these requirements are not met, the proposal may not

4419
06:50:03,930 --> 06:50:09,090
see further consideration, but then it says has determined the sole discretion of the city,

4420
06:50:10,150 --> 06:50:15,970
which I soon would give us something leeway, although it's kind of contradictory.

4421
06:50:16,530 --> 06:50:21,310
Yeah, this isn't a public works contract, but we're stuck within the very narrow confines

4422
06:50:21,310 --> 06:50:26,550
of how we can bid. The issue is if we make an exception for that, have we missed other bidters

4423
06:50:26,550 --> 06:50:31,530
that would have bid, knowing that they could have bid six miles away, six and a half miles away.

4424
06:50:31,530 --> 06:50:34,650
Those are the policy considerations to think about.

4425
06:50:34,990 --> 06:50:46,290
Well, at the same time, we cannot overlook our police and their needs and situations that have been apparently arising here.

4426
06:50:46,790 --> 06:50:49,270
Are we hearing that?

4427
06:50:49,330 --> 06:50:50,130
I understand.

4428
06:50:50,450 --> 06:50:51,570
I appreciate that.

4429
06:50:52,650 --> 06:51:01,630
It's number one, above anything else, their experiences and their needs and requirements

4430
06:51:02,330 --> 06:51:04,570
because we don't need any liability here.

4431
06:51:07,470 --> 06:51:09,010
Well, it's very interesting.

4432
06:51:09,110 --> 06:51:14,030
We have very interesting situations because we have rules within the five miles, right?

4433
06:51:14,050 --> 06:51:16,690
And then, of course, we here to support a law enforcement.

4434
06:51:16,690 --> 06:51:21,690
we don't want to live it. That's for sure. But at the same time, you know, we also have

4435
06:51:21,690 --> 06:51:27,610
another rules that we suppose to support business owners that are in five by. Right? Obviously,

4436
06:51:28,910 --> 06:51:35,970
this company is following that rule as well. I guess perhaps a way to compromise if there's a commitment

4437
06:51:37,590 --> 06:51:40,950
from the applicant who's here tonight, past midnight.

4438
06:51:43,370 --> 06:51:45,290
If they're willing to improve

4439
06:51:46,690 --> 06:51:54,590
And that's so address our city council staff. I'm not sure how that works. I see how she's shaking her head

4440
06:51:55,950 --> 06:51:57,190
It doesn't now

4441
06:51:57,890 --> 06:52:00,170
So if I can make a few

4442
06:52:01,650 --> 06:52:09,070
Excuse me excuse me sir, so let me make a few comments kind of what just to kind of put us where we're at right now in the agenda

4443
06:52:09,070 --> 06:52:13,250
So what we have before us a procurement process

4444
06:52:13,930 --> 06:52:19,470
We have a procedure with our police department, that procurement process has been executed

4445
06:52:19,970 --> 06:52:21,130
according to policy.

4446
06:52:22,110 --> 06:52:24,270
We have a contract before us right now.

4447
06:52:25,130 --> 06:52:35,970
There may be a bid protest ability for a party that was not successful to have a protest

4448
06:52:35,970 --> 06:52:39,010
process, but that's not what we're doing right now.

4449
06:52:39,370 --> 06:52:42,290
We're evaluating what the police department is giving us.

4450
06:52:44,750 --> 06:52:48,390
And there may be a way for a

4451
06:52:49,190 --> 06:52:54,390
proposal who was unsuccessful to get a debriefing from the police department.

4452
06:52:55,070 --> 06:52:56,150
So you might want to think about that.

4453
06:52:56,870 --> 06:53:01,350
That's always, that's always available to a company that isn't successful.

4454
06:53:02,810 --> 06:53:09,070
So my thinking at this point is they've gone through their process.

4455
06:53:09,070 --> 06:53:12,010
I trust their process at the police department.

4456
06:53:13,750 --> 06:53:20,090
But there are opportunities for those firms that are not successful to find out why.

4457
06:53:20,630 --> 06:53:24,330
And so what I encourage any party that doesn't win,

4458
06:53:25,110 --> 06:53:27,070
contract is to go through that process first.

4459
06:53:28,270 --> 06:53:30,390
And so those are my thoughts at this point.

4460
06:53:32,490 --> 06:53:35,330
I trust the process and I want to make a motion to approve.

4461
06:53:35,490 --> 06:53:36,410
I did number 16.

4462
06:53:39,090 --> 06:53:40,750
So when I have a little bit more discussion before.

4463
06:53:40,990 --> 06:53:41,430
That's fine.

4464
06:53:41,430 --> 06:53:52,530
I think the mayor is sort of framed the issue correctly and although I understand you may not agree with

4465
06:53:52,530 --> 06:54:04,750
the outcome there are I guess remedies that you can pursue if you're not if you don't agree with it.

4466
06:54:07,500 --> 06:54:15,960
I guess my feeling on this, too, is that if the best telling has been here for 40 years

4467
06:54:15,960 --> 06:54:24,000
and our police department is not supporting their renewal, there's got to be a bigger

4468
06:54:24,000 --> 06:54:30,320
reason. I have a feeling that everything is being said tonight for whatever reason.

4469
06:54:32,480 --> 06:54:33,660
I think

4470
06:54:33,660 --> 06:54:44,090
It's pretty clear the place department wants the two companies that won the bid so I will support it as well

4471
06:54:44,090 --> 06:54:45,510
Okay, I'll second this.

4472
06:54:49,160 --> 06:54:57,320
I'd like to see if our city attorney next time we really need to do something about the qualifications and requirements. I mean

4473
06:54:59,320 --> 06:55:03,660
We need to be really firm reference to how we got apply the rules

4474
06:55:03,660 --> 06:55:10,140
because this is, for example, down the road, I'm concerned about the exceptions that we don't

4475
06:55:10,140 --> 06:55:14,820
fall into the teeth to the rules, and that means we could break other rules down the road.

4476
06:55:15,560 --> 06:55:16,720
Because you were saying, you've done it before.

4477
06:55:20,100 --> 06:55:23,960
It can't remember, I don't understand it because we just went over this thing about the

4478
06:55:23,960 --> 06:55:24,620
crow flying.

4479
06:55:25,220 --> 06:55:26,900
Am I not correct on that?

4480
06:55:27,160 --> 06:55:29,880
So that has already been put aside.

4481
06:55:30,620 --> 06:55:31,620
There's nothing wrong.

4482
06:55:31,900 --> 06:55:33,140
It's actually that's not correct.

4483
06:55:33,220 --> 06:55:34,480
It's not as the crow flies.

4484
06:55:34,480 --> 06:55:42,260
the exception, the exception is that it's not city hall, it's anywhere within five miles

4485
06:55:42,260 --> 06:55:48,740
of Mount Valley, and I would assume Brookhurst and Garfield would be the award and Garfield,

4486
06:55:48,900 --> 06:55:55,360
as a closest point to where they are, and that's within five miles, even though city hall

4487
06:55:55,360 --> 06:55:55,580
is not.

4488
06:55:55,580 --> 06:55:59,440
Is there anything in my correct in that assumption or no?

4489
06:55:59,440 --> 06:56:03,400
I don't know where the measurement was from. I was just told that if that's

4490
06:56:04,240 --> 06:56:09,000
what it was told is, we could do it because it was within five miles.

4491
06:56:11,320 --> 06:56:16,000
Yeah, so there's been no improprieties and the police have done an evaluation. I mean, these are

4492
06:56:16,000 --> 06:56:23,280
police. And I trust in them. So no one say here, no one trusts them. I'm saying that the rules,

4493
06:56:24,200 --> 06:56:29,880
the rules we have to see what are the rules. And the rules clearly say right here, five miles from

4494
06:56:29,880 --> 06:56:35,760
the family puts the department. That's where the rule apply. I'm not saying we're not

4495
06:56:35,760 --> 06:56:40,360
trusting. So if we are not going to follow this rule, so what are we going to do

4496
06:56:40,360 --> 06:56:45,620
it perhaps? I understand that there are some concern evidence, storage, and all that. I

4497
06:56:45,620 --> 06:56:51,980
can play understand what you're saying. But my point is if we break one rule, we have to

4498
06:56:52,960 --> 06:56:57,720
be, how we go, oh, the situation down the road that we go break other rules.

4499
06:57:00,300 --> 06:57:01,060
That's my point.

4500
06:57:03,090 --> 06:57:09,810
Okay, we've got a first and a second. Just just like the officers, you know, when they have some wool, they have to apply the wool. They can't break it.

4501
06:57:12,210 --> 06:57:14,390
Well, I don't believe it's been broken. Thank you.

4502
06:57:14,470 --> 06:57:15,770
Excuse me, here are five miles.

4503
06:57:16,510 --> 06:57:17,270
I'm not going to ask.

4504
06:57:17,610 --> 06:57:18,370
Let's vote.

4505
06:57:18,610 --> 06:57:20,290
Yeah, please vote.

4506
06:57:33,150 --> 06:57:34,070
I'm pushing, yes.

4507
06:57:34,710 --> 06:57:35,930
I'm just being on countermeasure.

4508
06:57:36,490 --> 06:57:39,970
Oh, yeah, I'm struggling.

4509
06:57:41,550 --> 06:57:42,550
On the rules.

4510
06:57:42,550 --> 06:57:44,390
And vote now,

4511
06:57:50,540 --> 06:58:15,140
and for me, I understand the evaluators, I do really want, I mean, I support the law enforcement, but I'm not performing up big rules with rules or rules, and then if this is not the rule that we must rewrite the rules, that it's not within the five miles radius from the police department, we have to change that.

4512
06:58:15,140 --> 06:58:17,180
You can't break the home.

4513
06:58:17,380 --> 06:58:17,940
But

4514
06:58:20,470 --> 06:58:22,670
we need control.

4515
06:58:23,610 --> 06:58:23,970
Yeah.

4516
06:58:23,970 --> 06:58:26,230
So now we have a decision with our board.

4517
06:58:26,230 --> 06:58:28,550
We're going to continue the vote.

4518
06:58:28,850 --> 06:58:29,210
Please.

4519
06:58:29,370 --> 06:58:30,670
How was that fair?

4520
06:58:32,730 --> 06:58:34,290
Council member, are you voting?

4521
06:58:34,490 --> 06:58:34,810
He voted.

4522
06:58:35,190 --> 06:58:35,270
Okay.

4523
06:58:35,430 --> 06:58:37,990
Item number 16 passes.

4524
06:58:39,070 --> 06:58:39,770
Four one.

4525
06:58:40,070 --> 06:58:40,270
Thank you.

4526
06:58:40,310 --> 06:58:43,510
And as I mentioned I encourage any party who was not successful,

4527
06:58:43,730 --> 06:58:45,090
reach out for a debriefing.

4528
06:58:45,330 --> 06:58:46,110
Thank you.

4529
06:58:48,690 --> 06:58:48,910
Okay.

4530
06:58:49,250 --> 06:58:50,310
Moving on item 17.

4531
06:58:50,310 --> 06:58:54,450
Approved amendment number two to contract number

4532
06:58:57,520 --> 06:59:02,140
I'm going to I'm going to pause while we have

4533
06:59:02,140 --> 06:59:03,560
Chamber clear

4534
06:59:07,900 --> 06:59:08,700
Okay,

4535
06:59:14,290 --> 06:59:22,290
when we move on item 17 improve amendment number two to contract number 21 dash 35 for the tennis and pickleball concession agreement

4536
06:59:22,290 --> 06:59:27,530
The Fountain Valley Sports Park presentation by Deputy City Manager, Community Services Director,

4537
06:59:28,010 --> 06:59:28,530
Rob Frasil.

4538
06:59:28,650 --> 06:59:29,030
Good morning.

4539
06:59:29,450 --> 06:59:30,170
Thank you so much.

4540
06:59:30,510 --> 06:59:31,470
It is a good morning.

4541
06:59:33,010 --> 06:59:35,390
Mayor Kineen and Council Member Sanky for the opportunity.

4542
06:59:36,230 --> 06:59:41,650
Tonight we'll be presenting the proposed amendment number two to contract 2135 for the

4543
06:59:41,650 --> 06:59:45,930
Tennis and Pickleball Concession Agreement at the Fountain Valley Sports Park with me tonight

4544
06:59:45,930 --> 06:59:50,810
is Amy Pazonek and she is the owner of a Goppy Tennis Academy.

4545
06:59:50,810 --> 06:59:56,850
Okay, can we table this to the next meeting maybe, since it's only, let's go ahead.

4546
06:59:57,670 --> 06:59:58,190
Oh boy.

4547
07:00:00,000 --> 07:00:29,840
That was a good one. It's late. It took me a while to get it. Amy is available. Should there be any questions? Or if she would like to make any comments, you did see in the staff report that she submitted a letter of interest to the city for the extension and amendment number two. On the screen here, you can see the beautiful found valley sports park tennis and pickleball center. Unfortunately, this isn't the newest picture, because all four of those courts on the left hand side there.

4548
07:00:29,840 --> 07:00:35,420
closest to brokers are all now dedicated pickleball courts that any time you drive by there

4549
07:00:35,420 --> 07:00:39,300
you can definitely see everybody out there enjoying the courts.

4550
07:00:40,260 --> 07:00:44,260
So quickly to go over the term of this agreement, the concession agreement with the

4551
07:00:44,260 --> 07:00:48,520
Gapet tennis Academy, if she'll be three years from the date of execution, July 20th,

4552
07:00:49,220 --> 07:00:55,400
2021 was when we expected a Gapet tennis Academy and not to keep us here any longer, but

4553
07:00:55,400 --> 07:00:59,720
it was a little bit of a funny story, we actually had to call and make sure Amy knew there

4554
07:00:59,720 --> 07:01:02,960
in a fountain valley in Georgia when she applied for the tennis

4555
07:01:02,960 --> 07:01:08,060
concession. We did. We asked Amanda a purchasing officer. Can you

4556
07:01:08,060 --> 07:01:11,620
call her make sure she knows where she's applying? And she's definitely was

4557
07:01:11,620 --> 07:01:16,360
aware it was something California wanted to be out here. And we we

4558
07:01:16,360 --> 07:01:20,680
appreciate she she made the journey out here and she's had terrific success in

4559
07:01:20,680 --> 07:01:25,840
Southern California and has now gained the concession of a number other

4560
07:01:25,840 --> 07:01:28,120
10 of the facilities in Southern California.

4561
07:01:29,280 --> 07:01:31,160
So on the term of the agreement, the city reserves

4562
07:01:31,160 --> 07:01:33,460
to write the right to exercise the option to renew

4563
07:01:33,460 --> 07:01:37,780
by annually, not to exceed a maximum of seven years.

4564
07:01:38,560 --> 07:01:42,580
And with this amendment, we're recommending exercising

4565
07:01:42,580 --> 07:01:44,640
and they're available to your concession agreement

4566
07:01:44,640 --> 07:01:49,620
from July 20, 2026 through July 19, 2028.

4567
07:01:50,380 --> 07:01:53,940
Just a quick snapshot of kind of the overall performance

4568
07:01:53,940 --> 07:02:01,780
of the concessionary since they started August 2021 through July 2022. They had revenue of $736,000.

4569
07:02:02,400 --> 07:02:10,280
Regular patrons of tennis pickable and special events of just under 10,000 people and had 12 staff.

4570
07:02:11,040 --> 07:02:18,780
And they are on pace for August of 2025 through the end of this fiscal year to bring in just under $1.4 million.

4571
07:02:18,780 --> 07:02:26,000
dollars and expect to have over 30,000 regular participants and have 26 staff.

4572
07:02:26,500 --> 07:02:32,580
So, you can see there's been terrific success over the first five years of this contract.

4573
07:02:33,640 --> 07:02:38,940
Just briefly, a couple of highlights of the amazing things the Gopper has been able to do.

4574
07:02:39,260 --> 07:02:46,280
Coach Amy and a number of her head pros were all certified by the Global Professional Tennis Coaches Association,

4575
07:02:46,280 --> 07:02:49,240
which was also held here at the City of Found Valley.

4576
07:02:49,840 --> 07:02:53,820
They were a speaker for the Racket Sports Professional Association of Southern California

4577
07:02:53,820 --> 07:02:57,520
and a keynote speaker at the International Racket Records Conference

4578
07:02:57,520 --> 07:03:01,100
with the tennis registry and professional pickleball registry

4579
07:03:01,100 --> 07:03:07,020
and 2024 they hosted an actual ESPN pickleball madness tournament

4580
07:03:07,020 --> 07:03:09,900
getting national exposure for the City of Found Valley.

4581
07:03:10,920 --> 07:03:17,740
And in 2023, Agape was selected as the National Public Provider of the Year by the Professional

4582
07:03:17,740 --> 07:03:21,260
Pickleball Registry, so that's a really awesome stuff.

4583
07:03:21,840 --> 07:03:26,620
And in 2022, she was also a top 15 leader from the Chamber of Commerce in the City of

4584
07:03:26,620 --> 07:03:32,440
Found Valley and also awarded the City of Kindness Award.

4585
07:03:34,860 --> 07:03:39,820
Just briefly, they offer programs for seniors, youth, young adults, adults with special

4586
07:03:39,820 --> 07:03:44,900
needs disadvantaged groups, naturally diverse and inclusive staff attracts diverse

4587
07:03:44,900 --> 07:03:47,160
clientele that is reflective of our community.

4588
07:03:47,900 --> 07:03:50,400
Free and discounted offerings is something that's important.

4589
07:03:51,280 --> 07:03:55,720
They offer that through grand openings, appreciation days, holidays, free classes and free

4590
07:03:55,720 --> 07:04:00,840
course times, partnerships, local businesses and schools and organizations, and continue

4591
07:04:00,840 --> 07:04:02,400
to market and looking for new players.

4592
07:04:02,520 --> 07:04:06,540
Obviously, you see the growth from 9,000 to over 30,000 that's doing well.

4593
07:04:07,360 --> 07:04:11,640
Financial aid, do the positive performance we do recommend to move forward with the additional

4594
07:04:11,640 --> 07:04:16,380
two years at the direction of Council at this year's strategic plan.

4595
07:04:16,720 --> 07:04:24,100
We did negotiate a 4.3 CPI increase for the year six of the contract and a 5.8 CPI increase for

4596
07:04:24,100 --> 07:04:25,500
year seven of the contract.

4597
07:04:25,820 --> 07:04:34,260
If the final two year approval extension is approved, it will be over a 26% increase over the term

4598
07:04:34,260 --> 07:04:35,620
of the entire contract.

4599
07:04:38,340 --> 07:04:46,500
So the actual financials in the agreement is $71,400 for year six and $75,600 for

4600
07:04:46,500 --> 07:04:47,360
year seven.

4601
07:04:48,120 --> 07:04:54,380
And lastly, in the letter that Amy did share with interest in City of Found Valley at the

4602
07:04:54,380 --> 07:05:04,240
conclusion or during this to your agreement, she would love to engage with the city at the

4603
07:05:04,240 --> 07:05:10,000
program investment through possibly the Parks Master Plan and other means to have a long

4604
07:05:10,000 --> 07:05:14,300
term agreement with the City of Found Valley because I'll speak for her. She continually

4605
07:05:14,300 --> 07:05:19,020
tells us how much she loves and her team loves being in the City of Found Valley and we

4606
07:05:19,020 --> 07:05:23,780
appreciate having you here. And with that, I'm open to any questions and our recommendation

4607
07:05:23,780 --> 07:05:27,060
is to move the second amendment.

4608
07:05:28,500 --> 07:05:30,500
Thanks so much.

4609
07:05:31,680 --> 07:05:32,660
Any questions from Council?

4610
07:05:34,940 --> 07:05:42,780
I just want to say that it's such night and day comparison to our past providers to now.

4611
07:05:43,420 --> 07:05:46,060
It's been a phenomenal job.

4612
07:05:47,660 --> 07:05:51,640
I can't say enough good things and we'll happily move this item.

4613
07:05:54,640 --> 07:05:55,380
Any other discussion?

4614
07:05:55,380 --> 07:06:03,660
Yeah, yeah, I want a little bit some discussions before you vote on this one. I know it's late. I want to go home too.

4615
07:06:03,660 --> 07:06:21,360
I need to go ahead. I'm sorry. I've noticed that for the year 27 and 28. They didn't make any projected revenue. They put the same number. Why is that?

4616
07:06:22,040 --> 07:06:24,380
Oh, is that in the software board?

4617
07:06:24,660 --> 07:06:26,960
We didn't ask for projections in for the next two years.

4618
07:06:27,080 --> 07:06:34,380
We just asked for projections through 2026, the end of this calendar year, to compare to the previous years.

4619
07:06:34,980 --> 07:06:40,020
What do you mean, I mean, ideally is, maybe we extend to more years, you should have that projections.

4620
07:06:43,780 --> 07:06:48,100
Because to your point, earlier that, you asked you to raise on the CPI.

4621
07:06:48,100 --> 07:06:57,980
But if I looked from the time that they came on board with a city, back then the revenue was

4622
07:06:59,280 --> 07:07:11,840
736,000 with a fees share with a city was 8.1, but as the year goes by, they increased, like I've said last time,

4623
07:07:13,220 --> 07:07:21,960
to, for this year, 26.1.3, 9.1 millions, their fees are percentage revenue to the city

4624
07:07:21,960 --> 07:07:29,740
decrease to 4.9. To me, it's, I know you try hard on the CPI, but the more money they make,

4625
07:07:29,880 --> 07:07:38,260
the less we'll make the percentage wise. So to me, it doesn't make sense. As a policy maker, it's either

4626
07:07:38,260 --> 07:07:43,640
you stay the same rate or you increase what it couldn't see that but we went back

4627
07:07:44,520 --> 07:07:51,580
word. I know on their staff report they hired 26 people. I don't I went out there

4628
07:07:51,580 --> 07:07:56,040
I don't know where are those 26 people or staff where they at. There's never a time

4629
07:07:56,040 --> 07:08:03,040
there's more I never seen any time on out there. I see like 10 staff. The most I've seen

4630
07:08:03,040 --> 07:08:09,160
is like 3-4. So I don't know how are they having 26 tasks just for a small.

4631
07:08:10,140 --> 07:08:15,080
Well, it is a 7-day week operation, so not all staff will be working on a single day.

4632
07:08:15,400 --> 07:08:19,940
I understand, but when you think about it, it's 26 sounds a lot, but it's probably 26

4633
07:08:19,940 --> 07:08:26,220
couple hours. Yeah, so I kind of want to know really, I think that's how they justify it

4634
07:08:26,220 --> 07:08:31,040
because we have costs. Well, there might be 26, but 26 part-time, or where they're working

4635
07:08:31,040 --> 07:08:34,120
really. And thank you for being here so we appreciate

4636
07:08:34,120 --> 07:08:38,080
you. Hey everybody, Amy Pads and Henning, the CEO of OGOP810

4637
07:08:38,080 --> 07:08:40,700
is the Academy. Yeah, to answer that question, we absolutely

4638
07:08:40,700 --> 07:08:44,220
have 26 staff, because that includes me, our COO or HR

4639
07:08:44,220 --> 07:08:47,680
director who aren't on site, but are also helping to run the

4640
07:08:47,680 --> 07:08:52,360
operation here, as well as a lot of part-time people. We actually

4641
07:08:52,360 --> 07:08:55,120
probably have more than 26 staff if you're including our

4642
07:08:55,120 --> 07:08:59,640
summer helpers as well. So that's absolutely an accurate number

4643
07:08:59,640 --> 07:09:06,120
between part-time and then like myself and as I just mentioned, the HR director and the COO.

4644
07:09:08,560 --> 07:09:14,700
Okay, yeah, I think that's all I have, like I said, my concern is the profit-shank

4645
07:09:14,700 --> 07:09:20,140
diversity, it gets smaller as they increase, so that's concerning for me.

4646
07:09:20,220 --> 07:09:20,560
I understand.

4647
07:09:22,860 --> 07:09:23,680
Okay, thank you.

4648
07:09:23,700 --> 07:09:27,680
So we have a first-in-a-second, please vote.

4649
07:09:36,200 --> 07:09:37,980
I had him 17 passes 5-0.

4650
07:09:39,790 --> 07:09:40,770
Okay, thank you.

4651
07:09:40,770 --> 07:09:42,170
We'll move on to item 18.

4652
07:09:42,530 --> 07:09:46,330
Approve resolutions relating to the calling of the November 3rd,

4653
07:09:46,950 --> 07:09:49,350
2026, General Municipal Election,

4654
07:09:49,830 --> 07:09:52,630
presentation by City Clerk Rick Miller.

4655
07:09:55,380 --> 07:09:57,140
Since I have item 18 and 19,

4656
07:09:57,420 --> 07:09:58,760
this one should be fairly quick.

4657
07:09:58,940 --> 07:10:02,280
The only reason it's here is just so I can show this one slide.

4658
07:10:03,080 --> 07:10:04,120
So remember this is the public.

4659
07:10:04,580 --> 07:10:09,220
Yes, these are the three resolutions that we present to you

4660
07:10:09,220 --> 07:10:11,380
every evening of the year, right around this time,

4661
07:10:11,380 --> 07:10:16,200
calling for the election, having the registrar of voters conduct the election for us,

4662
07:10:17,660 --> 07:10:25,700
and setting the amount of words used in a candidate statement had 200 words.

4663
07:10:26,560 --> 07:10:27,440
So, yes.

4664
07:10:27,860 --> 07:10:37,420
I was saying, like a luggage tank or something, I was trying to be creative.

4665
07:10:37,420 --> 07:10:38,160
Okay.

4666
07:10:41,380 --> 07:10:48,080
Anyway, just for the public awareness in the resolutions, candidates that are choosing

4667
07:10:48,080 --> 07:10:53,200
to run for City Council can pull their nomination papers starting July 13th, which is a Monday

4668
07:10:53,200 --> 07:11:00,120
till Friday, August 7th, 2026, all people must be turned in to me prior to August 7th.

4669
07:11:00,980 --> 07:11:06,560
If an incumbent does not file by the August 7th deadline, we will get extended five calendar days,

4670
07:11:06,560 --> 07:11:12,240
Which would make it August 12th being our deadline. If anybody is interested in running

4671
07:11:12,240 --> 07:11:18,040
They can contact me in my phone number and email address are there and

4672
07:11:18,040 --> 07:11:19,280
But that I

4673
07:11:19,980 --> 07:11:22,060
Happy to answer any questions

4674
07:11:22,060 --> 07:11:28,440
Are there any questions from council? I do actually on page 819

4675
07:11:30,340 --> 07:11:35,950
Monday, you'll laugh it's it's

4676
07:11:51,920 --> 07:11:52,320
uh, 900

4677
07:11:54,000 --> 07:12:01,820
But Recon, just because we're waiting on the other thing, but if a council member, if an incumbent doesn't pull papers by the six,

4678
07:12:04,230 --> 07:12:07,050
how would that doesn't apply?

4679
07:12:07,310 --> 07:12:10,270
That's only if an incumbent isn't going to run.

4680
07:12:11,510 --> 07:12:18,370
Well, then that's why not pulling papers that would mean you're not running and all three incumbents are eligible to run.

4681
07:12:18,370 --> 07:12:24,970
Right. So if it was not able to run, and that person did not pull papers, that doesn't qualify.

4682
07:12:25,370 --> 07:12:26,110
Right. Go, Jack.

4683
07:12:31,010 --> 07:12:31,350
Okay.

4684
07:12:32,930 --> 07:12:34,630
All right, pitch eight, nineteen.

4685
07:12:35,250 --> 07:12:40,510
The area where you set resolution calling for the elections for the office,

4686
07:12:40,910 --> 07:12:43,510
for the office of two members.

4687
07:12:43,950 --> 07:12:46,550
I think it should have been three members.

4688
07:12:46,630 --> 07:12:47,770
Oh, today.

4689
07:12:48,430 --> 07:12:50,350
It's three. I mean, it should be.

4690
07:12:50,350 --> 07:12:59,090
It's a reference here. I'm not seeing where it says to. If it says to, that's a typo,

4691
07:12:59,990 --> 07:13:04,930
the resolution is called for three. Yeah. So I was just wondering, what do you see, two, kid?

4692
07:13:05,870 --> 07:13:16,010
Oh, I see it. There's two. On the right about three quarters of the way down. Right up, higher, right, right?

4693
07:13:16,010 --> 07:13:17,970
So it's inconsistent.

4694
07:13:18,630 --> 07:13:18,670
So you.

4695
07:13:19,330 --> 07:13:21,070
It was evolution calls for three.

4696
07:13:21,530 --> 07:13:23,550
Right, I have an error in my staff report.

4697
07:13:24,730 --> 07:13:31,150
Okay, and then page 823-824.

4698
07:13:33,980 --> 07:13:39,720
This is just for the section consistency because it

4699
07:13:39,720 --> 07:13:42,820
went from section to and then directly to section 4.

4700
07:13:43,380 --> 07:13:44,940
And so there's no section 3.

4701
07:13:45,320 --> 07:13:45,740
It's skipping.

4702
07:13:46,620 --> 07:13:57,240
So you probably want to go back and go section 1, 2, 6, 3, number, it's missing 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

4703
07:13:57,500 --> 07:13:57,840
So there?

4704
07:14:00,940 --> 07:14:02,780
Yeah, 24, 8, 25.

4705
07:14:04,780 --> 07:14:05,980
I have never, okay.

4706
07:14:06,960 --> 07:14:08,140
I will remember those.

4707
07:14:08,380 --> 07:14:08,400
Yep.

4708
07:14:11,580 --> 07:14:12,080
It's it?

4709
07:14:12,300 --> 07:14:12,640
Sorry.

4710
07:14:12,880 --> 07:14:13,440
My apologies.

4711
07:14:18,520 --> 07:14:19,740
I know it's amended.

4712
07:14:20,680 --> 07:14:22,700
We love to use template, I get it.

4713
07:14:25,220 --> 07:14:27,100
I moved as a mid did.

4714
07:14:27,220 --> 07:14:27,360
Okay.

4715
07:14:27,540 --> 07:14:27,760
Okay.

4716
07:14:29,240 --> 07:14:29,700
I'll second.

4717
07:14:30,540 --> 07:14:31,460
I'll second as a mentor.

4718
07:14:31,580 --> 07:14:31,860
Correct.

4719
07:14:32,000 --> 07:14:32,340
I did.

4720
07:14:32,680 --> 07:14:33,540
Same thing.

4721
07:14:39,660 --> 07:14:39,940
I see.

4722
07:14:40,860 --> 07:14:41,740
I think.

4723
07:14:42,700 --> 07:14:43,200
All in favor.

4724
07:14:43,460 --> 07:14:46,400
This system is.

4725
07:14:46,420 --> 07:14:47,180
It's after voting.

4726
07:14:47,500 --> 07:14:47,720
Hi.

4727
07:14:47,800 --> 07:14:50,100
It is revolting on the threefold thing.

4728
07:14:50,880 --> 07:14:52,840
It is not wanting to operate now.

4729
07:14:53,960 --> 07:14:54,940
I have a first and a second.

4730
07:14:55,080 --> 07:14:56,480
All those in favor say hi.

4731
07:14:56,600 --> 07:14:56,920
Hi.

4732
07:14:57,120 --> 07:14:57,780
All those opposed.

4733
07:14:58,420 --> 07:14:59,940
I didn't need team to have such 5-0.

4734
07:15:00,180 --> 07:15:12,460
Thank you, and move on to item 19 approval of the agreement for consultant services, between the city of Fount Valley and Harper and Burns L.O.P. to provide city attorney services to the city.

4735
07:15:12,620 --> 07:15:13,960
Presentation by city clerk.

4736
07:15:14,240 --> 07:15:17,040
Mr. Mayor, I have to step outside. I have a conflict. This is my firm's contract.

4737
07:15:17,560 --> 07:15:19,340
Yes. Thank you.

4738
07:15:20,100 --> 07:15:22,500
You sure you still want to do it?

4739
07:15:23,360 --> 07:15:23,920
That's

4740
07:15:32,970 --> 07:15:34,450
the seat, how good I can be here.

4741
07:15:34,930 --> 07:15:35,590
He's got to be late.

4742
07:15:36,690 --> 07:15:36,890
Okay.

4743
07:15:38,050 --> 07:15:46,910
This is the RFP for legal services as we are nearing our five-year time period with Harper

4744
07:15:46,910 --> 07:15:49,550
and Burns as the attorney for the city.

4745
07:15:50,050 --> 07:15:53,730
Harper and Burns have been the attorney for the city for quite some time since 1982.

4746
07:15:54,730 --> 07:16:00,370
The most recent agreement for attorney services was approved back in September of 2021.

4747
07:16:00,370 --> 07:16:10,950
There were two, one year extensions built into that, we are currently on the second of the two year extensions, which will expire in September of this year.

4748
07:16:12,290 --> 07:16:19,490
We are presenting the contract a little bit earlier than in September just so we can align this with our fiscal year.

4749
07:16:19,490 --> 07:16:25,710
These are some of the various responsibilities that are required of the city attorney's office.

4750
07:16:27,150 --> 07:16:32,510
These are the main, main things, brown act, elections law, contract law.

4751
07:16:33,530 --> 07:16:39,010
General plans, CEQA, city attorney's involved with everything.

4752
07:16:40,030 --> 07:16:44,350
Now on the procurement, the RFP process and accordance with the city's purchasing policies.

4753
07:16:44,350 --> 07:16:51,490
We issued a request for proposals for the Attorney Services on April 13th of this year.

4754
07:16:52,210 --> 07:16:56,770
The RFP was publicly advertised through Planet Bids with an invitation through the city's website.

4755
07:16:57,870 --> 07:17:02,890
There were 15 firms that viewed and downloaded the RFP.

4756
07:17:03,410 --> 07:17:09,010
The city received on May 11th, 7 submittals to the proposal.

4757
07:17:09,950 --> 07:17:19,950
The city's evaluation team consisted of three department heads who evaluated the proposals on a 10-point system with a weighted score of 800 points in three areas.

4758
07:17:20,470 --> 07:17:26,330
The general approach and work plan qualifications experiences and the firm's past performance and references.

4759
07:17:27,150 --> 07:17:31,390
after scoring the proposals based on the criteria above.

4760
07:17:31,870 --> 07:17:39,550
We were then anything, any firm that scored 575 or higher, moved on

4761
07:17:39,550 --> 07:17:44,430
and at that point we started looking at their costs.

4762
07:17:45,130 --> 07:17:51,070
We don't look at their proposed work and cost at the same time.

4763
07:17:51,070 --> 07:17:56,530
So you're not skewing the possible candidate

4764
07:17:56,530 --> 07:17:58,070
for one reason or another.

4765
07:17:59,950 --> 07:18:02,050
So based on that information,

4766
07:18:03,390 --> 07:18:05,750
this is a breakdown of how each of the firms

4767
07:18:05,750 --> 07:18:11,470
scored the top two being heartburn burns and Jones

4768
07:18:11,470 --> 07:18:12,450
and Air.

4769
07:18:13,570 --> 07:18:17,450
Burke Williams and Swanson was a very close third

4770
07:18:18,510 --> 07:18:32,390
on the first portion of the RFP process, and then as we, this, this screen shows the breakdown

4771
07:18:33,850 --> 07:18:39,790
of the interview process that we had our top two of Jones Mayor Harper Burns, then we

4772
07:18:39,790 --> 07:18:47,450
in in-house interview with both firms, three three directors and these were the

4773
07:18:47,450 --> 07:18:55,610
scoring of that as well. So on this last page you get the round one which was

4774
07:18:55,610 --> 07:18:59,930
the proposal broken down between the services and their costs and then round two

4775
07:18:59,930 --> 07:19:08,130
being the interview process. With again, Harper and Burns coming out ahead just

4776
07:19:08,130 --> 07:19:13,270
over a hundred and forty points over Jones Mayor.

4777
07:19:13,790 --> 07:19:15,250
I'm sorry, can you go back?

4778
07:19:17,390 --> 07:19:17,670
More?

4779
07:19:18,530 --> 07:19:19,230
No, it's good.

4780
07:19:19,410 --> 07:19:21,670
I'm just, I'm good.

4781
07:19:21,970 --> 07:19:22,630
Thank you.

4782
07:19:24,760 --> 07:19:33,160
So with that, staffs recommendation to the City Council is to approve alternative number one.

4783
07:19:33,760 --> 07:19:37,760
Approval of the agreement for Consultant Services between the City of Found Valley and

4784
07:19:38,320 --> 07:19:44,980
LOP provides city attorney services to the city for an initial term of three years with again two additional one-year

4785
07:19:44,980 --> 07:19:49,020
extensions if agreed to by both parties.

4786
07:19:49,460 --> 07:19:50,280
Thank you, Rick.

4787
07:19:50,360 --> 07:19:53,800
I'm hopefully happy to answer questions, sir.

4788
07:19:54,960 --> 07:19:58,120
Okay, open it up to questions, comments from Council.

4789
07:19:59,160 --> 07:19:59,900
I'd like to go first.

4790
07:20:00,540 --> 07:20:01,140
I will.

4791
07:20:01,140 --> 07:20:10,140
Well, I think Colin and his firm are doing well, and you would like to have him continue.

4792
07:20:13,740 --> 07:20:13,800
Right.

4793
07:20:14,080 --> 07:20:14,620
That's unbelievable.

4794
07:20:15,420 --> 07:20:21,900
I have a comment to make for, in the future, for the proposal,

4795
07:20:22,680 --> 07:20:23,380
Keterian,

4796
07:20:25,960 --> 07:20:30,720
perhaps we could put the years as a practice is important as part of evaluations.

4797
07:20:30,720 --> 07:20:37,600
right. The person could be practicing municipal law, but there's a difference between a

4798
07:20:37,600 --> 07:20:42,240
personal practice five years versus a person who practiced two decades. Absolutely. And

4799
07:20:42,240 --> 07:20:49,280
that and I believe most of not all of them referenced how long they've been in municipal law.

4800
07:20:49,340 --> 07:20:54,600
Yeah, I just didn't see anything. And it was in the proposals that were submitted. That was certainly

4801
07:20:54,600 --> 07:20:58,640
something that we looked at. There were some firms that were, you know, seven years eight years

4802
07:20:58,640 --> 07:21:04,840
as opposed to 30, 40 years, that's certainly way, ways with the departments.

4803
07:21:05,020 --> 07:21:07,040
Okay, so you do have that, you just put in here.

4804
07:21:07,080 --> 07:21:07,360
Yes.

4805
07:21:07,480 --> 07:21:07,900
Got it.

4806
07:21:08,020 --> 07:21:09,720
It's just part of the overall proposal.

4807
07:21:09,840 --> 07:21:10,420
Yeah, okay.

4808
07:21:10,600 --> 07:21:11,440
I'm okay with it.

4809
07:21:11,460 --> 07:21:13,900
I just didn't, I wasn't sure if that was part of the equations.

4810
07:21:16,980 --> 07:21:17,640
Any more discussions?

4811
07:21:18,020 --> 07:21:18,720
If not, don't quite.

4812
07:21:18,980 --> 07:21:19,440
I do.

4813
07:21:19,660 --> 07:21:19,840
Okay.

4814
07:21:20,120 --> 07:21:21,100
That's my grandest.

4815
07:21:21,340 --> 07:21:21,660
Yeah.

4816
07:21:22,420 --> 07:21:23,960
I haven't had a chance to read it.

4817
07:21:23,960 --> 07:21:36,920
I saw that the cost for, by council member and total cost that came up came out yesterday, I think it was, but I haven't, I haven't been able to go through it in detail, but,

4818
07:21:36,920 --> 07:21:47,780
I concerned that I saw was that it was way over budget and that the budget was used up, the total budget for the year was used up after 10 months.

4819
07:21:48,460 --> 07:21:53,140
So my concern is, you know, when you get to cost

4820
07:21:55,630 --> 07:21:58,630
and he's got the highest rating, which

4821
07:21:58,630 --> 07:22:05,850
is good, because the price is an inefficiency, is it, we're contacting too much, are we

4822
07:22:05,850 --> 07:22:13,170
budgeting wrong, I think we need to get our arms around this, because, you know, you're

4823
07:22:13,170 --> 07:22:18,350
going to come back for approval for more money, because he's done the work and we got to

4824
07:22:18,350 --> 07:22:26,210
but it's over budget and it's I would say at times it's probably a combination of

4825
07:22:26,210 --> 07:22:32,030
a little bit of everything and I think with us having that providing you a

4826
07:22:32,030 --> 07:22:40,030
quarterly look at here's where we are with the city attorneys costs that I think

4827
07:22:40,030 --> 07:22:44,950
we're hopeful will give us a tighter grip on on how the attorney for the city's

4828
07:22:44,950 --> 07:22:49,850
was being utilized? Yeah, I couldn't open it on my phone for some reason. I haven't had a chance

4829
07:22:49,850 --> 07:22:56,710
to open it on my computer, so could have been. So be my understanding from finance director,

4830
07:22:57,610 --> 07:23:06,790
when we are evaluating the proposal, we base up per hour, the rates, increase on per hour.

4831
07:23:06,790 --> 07:23:18,970
are early rates. Not like the full budget and I think the legal cost varies from year to year and

4832
07:23:18,970 --> 07:23:26,230
the feedback that the finance director had shared with me is we've been under budget the last few

4833
07:23:26,230 --> 07:23:36,410
years and I think with this upcoming fiscal year instead of 425,000 will put 450 and again

4834
07:23:36,410 --> 07:23:47,270
It really depends on the year, depending on the city council conversation, discussion based on policy that are being directed by staff.

4835
07:23:47,710 --> 07:24:01,470
I think in this last year for sure, a good chunk of it had to do with group homes and public hearings and charter city charter city.

4836
07:24:01,470 --> 07:24:22,410
Yes, so those did the Zoom a lot of legal time, but again, it really varies depending on the subject matter depending on what is the council priority and so, but I think for sure, hearing from finance director, you know,

4837
07:24:22,410 --> 07:24:31,110
I initiate to include legal services at 450,000 this time around instead of 425,000.

4838
07:24:31,470 --> 07:24:37,290
Yeah, I'm, you know, again, I didn't look at it closely, but it sounded like we used our budget up

4839
07:24:37,290 --> 07:24:43,910
in 10 months. So I don't think that increase, which is 5% to whatever it is,

4840
07:24:43,910 --> 07:24:51,270
for sure. Vice Mayor Harper knows the top office head. But that doesn't sound like either enough

4841
07:24:51,270 --> 07:24:56,270
of a budget increase or we need to stop spending so much.

4842
07:24:58,540 --> 07:25:01,940
And again, I didn't look at it, so I don't, is that a public record?

4843
07:25:06,950 --> 07:25:10,310
I haven't seen it, so I wouldn't be able to tell you.

4844
07:25:10,370 --> 07:25:13,490
If it's dollar amounts, then I believe it would be,

4845
07:25:13,510 --> 07:25:16,770
but if there's things attributed in there

4846
07:25:16,770 --> 07:25:20,670
of what they're happening, what conversations are occurring

4847
07:25:20,670 --> 07:25:24,250
or what it's reflecting, then there's some protections in there.

4848
07:25:24,250 --> 07:25:24,550
Okay.

4849
07:25:24,610 --> 07:25:25,830
Not being a public document.

4850
07:25:25,830 --> 07:25:35,190
I just raised it as a concern, it's a red flag that we're high and we're renewing the

4851
07:25:35,190 --> 07:25:41,950
contract and the prices artificially low but the hours are being high and that's something

4852
07:25:41,950 --> 07:25:43,410
we have to look at as well.

4853
07:25:43,850 --> 07:25:49,990
I think recently with the City Council direction in providing a quarterly update on legal

4854
07:25:49,990 --> 07:25:57,150
services and so forth, that potentially could help, you know, monitor the expense and

4855
07:25:57,150 --> 07:25:57,830
social expenses.

4856
07:25:59,370 --> 07:26:02,910
Yeah, I just want to add to appreciate the procurement process.

4857
07:26:03,050 --> 07:26:05,510
I think there were a number of firms that were competitive.

4858
07:26:06,410 --> 07:26:10,270
I think it's healthy to do this every three years.

4859
07:26:12,630 --> 07:26:17,750
And, you know, I think Harper and Burns has a long history of service.

4860
07:26:17,750 --> 07:26:29,850
But we know that's, you know, that's just the factor, it still comes down to today's market and, you know, scoring well on all of the factors, so.

4861
07:26:30,150 --> 07:26:46,630
But I too am pleased with the service and work really well with the firm and have always thought highly of all of the services they're diverse, and so I'll continue to support the findings of staff on this.

4862
07:26:46,630 --> 07:26:49,290
I'm surprised BBK's not on the list.

4863
07:26:49,750 --> 07:26:54,890
They downloaded and reviewed the proposal or the RFP and they did not submit.

4864
07:26:55,570 --> 07:26:59,510
I will tell you I talked to them because I was surprised as well.

4865
07:27:01,250 --> 07:27:07,010
And the feedback I got was they felt that Harper and Burns was a formality.

4866
07:27:07,370 --> 07:27:12,990
So they didn't want to make the effort to bid because they've been with us for 42 years.

4867
07:27:12,990 --> 07:27:16,070
So that's their problem.

4868
07:27:17,010 --> 07:27:18,090
No, it has history.

4869
07:27:19,030 --> 07:27:19,110
Yeah.

4870
07:27:19,930 --> 07:27:20,290
Okay.

4871
07:27:22,630 --> 07:27:24,330
Okay, so thanks so much.

4872
07:27:25,770 --> 07:27:27,850
Well, I'll call for a motion on the other.

4873
07:27:28,070 --> 07:27:28,650
Motion to approve.

4874
07:27:28,790 --> 07:27:29,590
We did already.

4875
07:27:29,810 --> 07:27:31,170
Oh, it's on there.

4876
07:27:31,670 --> 07:27:32,070
It's on there.

4877
07:27:32,070 --> 07:27:32,370
It's on there.

4878
07:27:32,470 --> 07:27:33,150
It's on my mind.

4879
07:27:33,850 --> 07:27:33,870
It's on my mind.

4880
07:27:34,030 --> 07:27:35,030
So it's on there.

4881
07:27:35,970 --> 07:27:36,790
Oh, wait, wait.

4882
07:27:36,810 --> 07:27:37,170
It's on there.

4883
07:27:37,470 --> 07:27:38,210
It's on there.

4884
07:27:38,210 --> 07:27:38,650
It's on there.

4885
07:27:38,650 --> 07:27:39,110
It's on there.

4886
07:27:39,230 --> 07:27:39,990
It's on there.

4887
07:27:40,250 --> 07:27:43,310
It's on there.

4888
07:27:43,310 --> 07:27:54,790
Was there a motion I think I started out motion by council member Constantine chair second bike

4889
07:27:56,090 --> 07:28:00,330
Consol those in favor say I I all those opposed

4890
07:28:00,330 --> 07:28:06,410
I have 19 pets is five zero making if we could call the city attorney back

4891
07:28:06,410 --> 07:28:10,410
You should all turn our back on us.

4892
07:28:12,290 --> 07:28:13,570
Take a seat away.

4893
07:28:17,040 --> 07:28:19,060
Sorry, you don't need this anymore.

4894
07:28:20,120 --> 07:28:20,740
We're telling you gradually.

4895
07:28:24,040 --> 07:28:24,640
Rack.

4896
07:28:25,660 --> 07:28:25,940
Great.

4897
07:28:25,940 --> 07:28:26,740
Thank you.

4898
07:28:27,580 --> 07:28:28,620
We're punchy at 12.

4899
07:28:28,940 --> 07:28:29,980
45 in the morning.

4900
07:28:30,880 --> 07:28:31,120
OK.

4901
07:28:31,240 --> 07:28:31,760
Moving on.

4902
07:28:31,800 --> 07:28:32,300
City Council.

4903
07:28:32,380 --> 07:28:33,200
Successor Agency.

4904
07:28:33,600 --> 07:28:34,160
Housing Authority.

4905
07:28:34,320 --> 07:28:35,540
Public comments.

4906
07:28:37,760 --> 07:28:40,400
On unscheduled matters, are there any requests to speak?

4907
07:28:45,300 --> 07:28:46,820
All right, City Council's Access Regency.

4908
07:28:46,880 --> 07:28:50,800
Housing Authority AB1234 General Comments.

4909
07:28:51,360 --> 07:28:54,200
At this late hour, kind of leave it as an option.

4910
07:28:55,620 --> 07:28:58,460
Any council member would like to speak if not?

4911
07:28:58,560 --> 07:28:58,960
I think.

4912
07:28:59,640 --> 07:28:59,960
Okay.

4913
07:29:00,240 --> 07:29:00,980
We'll start with Council.

4914
07:29:01,240 --> 07:29:01,480
One minute.

4915
07:29:01,820 --> 07:29:04,800
Yeah, I just want to say, I've recently submitted my list.

4916
07:29:05,420 --> 07:29:08,500
But this past Saturday, I forgot to put it on my social media.

4917
07:29:08,500 --> 07:29:12,840
but fountain valley celebrated our 69th birthday.

4918
07:29:13,360 --> 07:29:14,760
Happy birthday fountain valley.

4919
07:29:14,980 --> 07:29:16,600
And that's it, good night.

4920
07:29:17,080 --> 07:29:17,260
OK.

4921
07:29:17,680 --> 07:29:19,120
We need to do a bed job.

4922
07:29:19,520 --> 07:29:20,920
But if not, next time, I have to be a charger

4923
07:29:20,920 --> 07:29:23,020
because the second time I found a day.

4924
07:29:24,940 --> 07:29:26,640
We'll be near what says three o'clock?

4925
07:29:27,020 --> 07:29:28,460
Yes, yes.

4926
07:29:28,840 --> 07:29:30,980
Can I just couple a couple of quick comments?

4927
07:29:31,680 --> 07:29:34,300
So it's been over nine hours.

4928
07:29:34,500 --> 07:29:36,400
So I would like to congratulate the mayor

4929
07:29:36,400 --> 07:29:41,040
for the longest meeting in Council Member Bully, I owe you lunch, so for that.

4930
07:29:42,400 --> 07:29:48,820
And then I just want to remind everybody, because maybe somebody is recorded and maybe somebody

4931
07:29:48,820 --> 07:29:53,800
is watching tomorrow, but we got some of the fast coming up, so just to remind a Thursday

4932
07:29:53,800 --> 07:29:58,940
through Sunday, it's the big party that we put on for the city, so be there for some of

4933
07:29:58,940 --> 07:29:59,300
test.

4934
07:30:01,100 --> 07:30:08,740
And then we have the 4th of July, we won't have another meeting before the 4th of July, so Happy Birthday America.

4935
07:30:09,800 --> 07:30:20,880
And then the last thing is we saw that HR video that earlier, and it talked multiple times about us being an inclusive city,

4936
07:30:20,880 --> 07:30:26,900
And we're inclusive whether you live work in play and part of that inclusiveness

4937
07:30:26,900 --> 07:30:33,860
It's unfortunate. We didn't do a resolution on this, but I would like to wish those that celebrate a happy Pride month

4938
07:30:35,160 --> 07:30:40,010
Great. Thank you. Caltsman. Three. Any comments?

4939
07:30:41,930 --> 07:30:47,610
No sir. I'll go ahead and submit it. It's okay. Someone's one o'clock. Okay. Vicemer Harper

4940
07:30:49,390 --> 07:30:50,370
No comments.

4941
07:30:51,750 --> 07:30:53,730
And I too will submit my comments.

4942
07:30:55,250 --> 07:31:02,610
So we will adjourn to our next meeting, which will be the second Tuesday July 14th.

4943
07:31:03,890 --> 07:31:05,610
Here in chambers at 6 p.m.

4944
07:31:05,770 --> 07:31:09,230
And until then, a good morning.

4945
07:31:10,850 --> 07:31:11,570
We're adjourned.