1 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,040 All right, meeting called to order. Time 2 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,880 is now 7 o'clock. We'll start with the 3 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,030 pledge of allegiance. 4 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,839 I pledge algiance to the flag of the 5 00:14:55,839 --> 00:14:59,120 United States of America to the republic 6 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,240 for which it stands. One nation under 7 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,279 God, indivisible, with liberty and 8 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:15,829 justice for all. 9 00:15:15,839 --> 00:15:18,079 The open meeting act is available on the 10 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:19,920 public inspection on the table in the 11 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,519 front of the room and a copy of the 12 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:23,839 complete agenda and backup is available 13 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:25,839 on the table in the center of the room. 14 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:33,350 We'll go to roll call. 15 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Eight members are present. Mayor, 16 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,949 >> thank you. 17 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:42,639 Motion to adopt the current agenda for 18 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:45,519 August 11th, 2026 regular city council 19 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:51,990 meeting. 20 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,040 » Councilman Vaughn. 21 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,800 >> So moved. 22 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,240 >> Councilman Jensen 23 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:02,470 >> and seconded. 24 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,399 » That motion carries 8 to zero. 25 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:06,959 Okay, 26 00:16:06,959 --> 00:16:08,720 we got some appointments tonight. Item 27 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,560 number two, motion to consent. Mayor's a 28 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,279 reappointment to the creative council. 29 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:17,920 Um, everybody's got a year 30 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,800 term. Uh, it'll be Lindy Gen Genoix, 31 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,519 Molly Payeyton, Laney Pquet, Katon 32 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:25,360 Krakamire, Brenda Wilbering, Jennifer 33 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,519 Dam, Lee Meyer, and Monica Ebie. 34 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:31,839 There any questions or anything from 35 00:16:31,839 --> 00:16:39,110 council? If not, I'll take a motion. 36 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,880 » Councilman her. Uh, 37 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,320 >> yes. I'll make a motion to um um approve 38 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,279 the um mayor's reappoints to the 39 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:49,759 creative council. 40 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:52,560 >> Councilman or Councilwoman Gana. 41 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:59,509 >> I second. 42 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:02,720 » That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor 43 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,039 Thank you. Item number three, motion to 44 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:06,720 confirm appointment of Garrett Jensen to 45 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,079 the police sergeants per mayor's 46 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:09,600 recommendation. 47 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,439 Uh the civil service commission provided 48 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:12,959 a qualified candidates for us. There 49 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:15,839 were three of them and came down to car 50 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,400 to Garrett Jensen. 51 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Staff 52 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,839 >> Jennifer, deputy chief of police. Thank 53 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,319 you again for the opportunity to be here 54 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,240 and speak to you tonight about the 55 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,559 promotion or potential promotion of here 56 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:33,039 at Jensen. The promotional process can 57 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:34,480 be lengthy and stressful for every 58 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,559 officer involved. Yet, it consistently 59 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:38,720 highlights the strength and dedication 60 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,960 with within our department. This most 61 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,720 recent process produced an outstanding 62 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,160 list of officers who are ready and 63 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,320 willing to help lead the city of Fremont 64 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,240 and our department into the future. 65 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Currently, at the top of that list is 66 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,400 Officer Jensen. As you consider 67 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,080 promoting him, we'd like to take a 68 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,600 moment to help you get to know him a 69 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,679 little better. Officer Jensen joined the 70 00:17:57,679 --> 00:17:59,600 Fremont Police Department in October of 71 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,919 2019. As an officer in the patrol 72 00:18:01,919 --> 00:18:03,200 division, he worked night shift 73 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,320 throughout his career. In 2022, Officer 74 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,080 Jensen joined the emergency response 75 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,720 unit and is now a team sniper for the 76 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,520 unit. In 2024, he became a field 77 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,840 training officer. He recently completed 78 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,679 an instructor level course in police 79 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:20,240 response to active shooter uh to assist 80 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,080 the department in training officers in 81 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,000 tactics and proper response to these 82 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,559 situations. Officer Jensen graduated 83 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:28,880 from Lions Dear Northeast High School in 84 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,600 2007 and in 2012 he earned his 85 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,799 bachelor's degree in business 86 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,679 administration from UNL. During his 87 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:36,799 service at the Fremont Police 88 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:38,480 Department, Officer Jensen has earned 89 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,320 multiple recognitions for outstanding 90 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,960 performance. One such commendation 91 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,799 stemmed from an attempted robbery in 92 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:46,960 which employees had been locked inside a 93 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,000 freezer. Demonstrating bravery, Officer 94 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,559 Jensen and Sergeant and his sergeant 95 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:54,000 entered the restaurant through the 96 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,160 drive-through window. I'm sorry, 97 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,120 conducted a search for suspects and 98 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,600 safely freed the employees. Officer 99 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,080 Jensen is most proud of his service on 100 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,720 the ERU and being appointed as the team 101 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,880 sniper. He is also proud of becoming a 102 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,880 response active shooter instructor and 103 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,440 field training officer. Joining Officer 104 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,039 Jensen today for the pinning ceremony 105 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:19,830 are his wife Taylor and his son Maddox. 106 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,950 Questions from council. 107 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,520 » Okay. Thank you. 108 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:32,070 I'll take a motion. 109 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,760 » Councilman Jensen. 110 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,440 >> I'll make the motion to confirm him. And 111 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,039 I will just state for the record that 112 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:39,039 offer Jensen and myself are not related 113 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:42,320 in any way. 114 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,520 >> Councilman Horner, 115 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:56,150 >> I'll second. 116 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,440 » That motion carries eight to zero. 117 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,799 Mayor. 118 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:04,630 >> All right. Thank you. 119 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,840 that you have voted. Uh joining officer 120 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Jensen today for the pinning ceremony 121 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,200 are his wife Taylor and his son Maddox. 122 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,640 His parents Stephen and Lori and his 123 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,960 father and mother-in-law Richard and 124 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,679 Denise are also present. Pinning his 125 00:20:17,679 --> 00:21:37,029 badge will be his wife Taylor. 126 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:38,880 Okay, on to public hearings. Item number 127 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,240 four, resolution 2026-199, 128 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,000 making a recommendation for a class D 129 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,640 liquor license application of Casey's 130 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Retail Company, DBA Casey's number 4670 131 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,799 located at 730 Boulevard. Staff, 132 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:56,159 >> thank you, Mayor. Michael Chhaterson, 133 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:58,480 city clerk. Uh this is a new uh liquor 134 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,480 license application for the Casey's that 135 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,400 is going in uh there off Morningside 136 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,400 Road off the uh 275 bypass. Um this will 137 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880 be for a class D liquor license. Uh 138 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,880 council can 139 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,799 effectively do one of three things. They 140 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,400 can make a recommendation of approval, 141 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,840 no recommendation, or make a 142 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,360 recommendation to deny to the liquor 143 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,000 control commission. Um at which point 144 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,280 the control the liquor control 145 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280 commission will do whatever council kind 146 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,679 of effectuates from that regard. Um, so 147 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:32,549 I can take any questions, from council. 148 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,799 Okay, seeing none, I'll go to uh open 149 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:39,029 the public hearing. 150 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:40,320 » Seeing none, I'll close the public 151 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960 hearing. Come down to council for a 152 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,159 motion or any discussion. 153 00:22:46,159 --> 00:22:47,360 Councilman Vaughn, 154 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,120 >> I've received assurances that they will 155 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,520 have the pizza that I love. So, I will 156 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,840 make that recommendation approved. 157 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Councilman her 158 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,760 >> and I'll second that with the pizza 159 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:04,230 especially. 160 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,520 » That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor. 161 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,360 >> Okay. Thank you. On the consent agenda, 162 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:10,799 all items on the consent agenda are 163 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:12,400 considered to be routine by the city 164 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,120 council and will be acted by enacted by 165 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:16,559 one motion. There will be no separate 166 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:18,799 discussion of these items less a C 167 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:20,640 council member or staff so request in 168 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,480 which the item will be removed from the 169 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,840 consent agenda and considered 170 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,240 separately. 171 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,080 >> Anything on consent to be removed? 172 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,440 Counciloman Le. 173 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:43,110 >> I'd like to remove number 17, please 174 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:53,430 » number seven. 175 00:23:53,440 --> 00:24:00,950 Can we remove item 11, please, mayor? 176 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:08,390 » Anybody else? 177 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,799 If not, I'll take a motion uh pass the 178 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:14,480 consent agenda minus items 7, 11, 179 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,679 and 17. 180 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:19,200 >> Councilman her. 181 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,039 >> I'll make the motion to approve the 182 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:24,720 consent agenda minus 7, items 7, 11, and 183 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,600 17. 184 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:34,549 >> Councilman Jensen, and I'll second. 185 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:38,000 That motion carries 8 to zero, mayor. 186 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,440 >> Okay, thank you. 187 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:52,149 Item seven, motion to receive the report of the treasury, 188 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:54,400 » honorable council, 189 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,880 honorable mayor, Jennifer Nab, finance 190 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,480 director. Um, we have for you the report 191 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,480 of the treasury. This is the report that 192 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,960 shows the change in our balances for all 193 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,400 of our different accounts and 194 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,600 investments. And I am available for any 195 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,159 questions you may have. 196 00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:17,750 >> Questions from councel. 197 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,240 » It's such an important item that it's 198 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,240 good to hear a summary if you would give 199 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,600 a summary for that. And I know we've 200 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,400 read the report. It's just good to have 201 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:34,230 it public as well. Thank you. Any 202 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:41,190 other questions from council? 203 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,269 » I'll take comments from the public. 204 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:48,480 Seeing none, I'll close the public 205 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,440 comment and go back to council for a 206 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,630 motion or any other discussion. 207 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,510 Councilwoman 208 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,720 Gan 209 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,520 >> I move we [clears throat] excuse me I 210 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,000 make a motion to receive the treasury 211 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,240 report 212 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:24,390 >> second 213 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:31,909 that motion carries 8 to zero mayor 214 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:34,240 Okay. Item number 11, resolution 215 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,000 2026-197, 216 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,679 authorizing the renewal of all existing 217 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:39,679 class C liquor license through October 218 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:42,559 31st, 2027. 219 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:43,120 >> Yeah. 220 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,400 >> Thank you, Mayor Michael Chatterson, 221 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,000 city clerk. This is the resolution to 222 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,960 approve all existing uh liquor license 223 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000 class C's. Um, the reason I wanted to 224 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,000 discuss further was we I was uh I I was 225 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,080 aware that we made a mistake on one of 226 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,240 the addresses for Renita's. We still 227 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,919 have them listed at 343 North Main. 228 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:03,679 They've since moved in the last few 229 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:05,360 weeks. Um, so we'll need to amend that. 230 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:06,880 So, if I could get a motion to amend 231 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,720 that um address on our resolution, we'll 232 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,320 get that. We should be good to go 233 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,640 otherwise. 234 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,640 >> Okay. 235 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Question or council? Uh, Councilman 236 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,120 Jensen, 237 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,200 >> I'll I'll make the motion to amend as as 238 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,480 needed. 239 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,360 >> Councilman Hero, 240 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:41,430 >> I'll second the motion to amend. 241 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,909 » That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor, 242 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:48,240 » uh, any comments from 243 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,190 the public. 244 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,039 Seeing none, I'll close it. I'll take a 245 00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:59,110 motion as amended. 246 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,159 » Councilman Vaughn, 247 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:03,360 >> make motion to approve as amended. 248 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,039 >> Councilman Marsh. 249 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:15,590 >> Second. 250 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,430 That motion carries 8 to zero. 251 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Okay, thank you. 252 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,799 >> Item 17, resolution 2026-204, 253 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,159 awarding the funding for downtown 254 00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:29,679 project for downtown revital 255 00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:31,440 revitalization community development 256 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,320 block grant at 311 North Main Street in 257 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:44,630 the amount of 22,938.75. 258 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,240 Good evening, honorable mayor, city 259 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880 council, Angie Olsen, grant coordinator. 260 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,039 We've received an application for the 261 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,600 downtown facade improvements program 262 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,480 from the address of 311 North Main 263 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,960 Street that's owned by Todd Hoppy and 264 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,279 Trisha Dorfmeer who are in attendance 265 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:04,000 with us tonight. Uh their project 266 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,360 estimate is just over $30,000. There is 267 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000 a 25% match requirement for this 268 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,159 program. So that brings their request to 269 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:15,440 right around um $23,000. 270 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,279 Their project is um for the front of 311 271 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:22,480 Maine. Originally, they wanted to have a 272 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,640 recessed interior which would take it 273 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,080 back to um the uh historical look of the 274 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,600 building. However, that was very 275 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,559 complicated process. And um their your 276 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:34,880 packet includes a letter from an 277 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,399 engineer stating um that will be a a a 278 00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:40,640 difficult task and they did reach out to 279 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,120 multiple contracts contractors who were 280 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,000 not willing to take that on. However, um 281 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,279 they are going to restore the front um 282 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:53,200 as is kind of flat uh to Main Street and 283 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,640 I'm here to answer any questions you 284 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,279 might have. 285 00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,600 Uh, Councilwoman Lethra, 286 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,399 >> I don't have any questions, but I I just 287 00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:05,039 wanted to say that it's wonderful that 288 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,200 they're taking advantage of this great 289 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,960 opportunity. Um, restoring the downtown. 290 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,440 They are doing a fabulous job on that 291 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,039 building down there and I want to thank 292 00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,399 them for that. Um, I also would like to 293 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:21,120 say that there are additional funds 294 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,200 available in this program and maybe 295 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200 Angie could expand on that just a little 296 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:27,440 bit. 297 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,919 >> Yeah, sure. So, we um have about 298 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:33,679 $200,000 left in this program. As uh you 299 00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:35,840 might remember, we did extend it um 300 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,000 originally was set to expire in May of 301 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,080 2026. So, we've extended it to May of 302 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,520 2027. And um we are having some internal 303 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,200 discussions of if um we don't have 304 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,120 applicants come forward what we might 305 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,200 use those funds for. Uh we would need to 306 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,520 work with the state and make sure that 307 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,399 um our projects are uh eligible and 308 00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:57,039 within um their standards. Uh but it 309 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,679 might look like some street sidewalk 310 00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:01,360 improvements, ADA accessibility, 311 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,559 something like that in the downtown 312 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,960 area. But if there are any applicants 313 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,039 interested, um it's a great time to 314 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,159 apply. Um the applicants tonight 315 00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:12,559 actually also received funding for 307 316 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,799 North Main Street and um they've been 317 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,000 working hard on that one as well. 318 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,200 >> Thank you. 319 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,399 >> Any other questions from council? 320 00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:26,880 Okay. 321 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,269 >> Uh comments from the public? 322 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:32,640 Seeing none, I'll close that and come 323 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:45,029 back for Oh, come on up. 324 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:49,600 Todd, 1225 County Road Y. Um, no real 325 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,960 comments. I handed out two packets of uh 326 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,919 pictures. Uh, I wanted to let you see 327 00:31:55,919 --> 00:31:58,640 when I bought it is on the front and if 328 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600 you go through you see the stages on the 329 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000 front windows on the top story they're 330 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640 in and the bottom is boarded up and 331 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,039 tomorrow they're measuring to put the 332 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,919 first ones in at 309. Once we get that 333 00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:14,080 then we'll move our boards to the north 334 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,080 and do the 311 you guys are doing 335 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,679 tonight. I also included the backside 336 00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:22,640 which your grant didn't have, but you 337 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,080 can see what ugly we had. We've removed 338 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960 all that. Uh it's coming along great. 339 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,360 We'll have uh six apartments rented out 340 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,640 by the end of the year. Um 341 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,320 couldn't go any better. This grant 342 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,640 helped us a lot. Otherwise, we're doing 343 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880 it out of our front pocket. It's a lot 344 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,760 easier when we have funds allotted to us 345 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480 then uh we pay it off because the banks 346 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,279 are a lot easier to look at a finished 347 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:51,919 product instead of 348 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:54,080 putting money behind us. Will the 349 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,399 project get done? So, thank you for what 350 00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:58,399 you guys are doing. That's all I got. 351 00:32:58,399 --> 00:32:59,840 >> Thank you. 352 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,039 >> We need a motion to receive 353 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,960 information. Councilman her 354 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,720 >> I'll make a motion to receive. 355 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,710 I want to lay through a second. 356 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:35,029 That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor 357 00:33:35,039 --> 00:34:00,230 Councilman 358 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,960 Jensen, you have something? 359 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,480 >> Yes. If there's no further discussion, 360 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,760 then make the motion to approve the 361 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,120 resolution. 362 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,230 >> I still got to go to public. 363 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,440 » All right. I'll take any comments from 364 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,480 the public. 365 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,839 >> Seeing none, I'll come back to council 366 00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:22,470 for a motion. 367 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,919 Councilman Jensen, 368 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:25,280 >> I'll make the motion to approve 369 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,800 resolution 2026-204. 370 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,280 Councilman 371 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:36,869 >> Vaughn, I will second. 372 00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:40,304 That motion carries 8 to zero, mayor. 373 00:34:40,304 --> 00:34:42,560 [clears throat] Okay, thank you. On to 374 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,119 new business, item 18, ordinance 57 to 375 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,280 53 for approval of utilities salary 376 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:55,510 ordinance. First reading. 377 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,879 Good evening, mayor and city council. 378 00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:58,320 Jennifer McDuffy, director of human 379 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,920 resources. Um we are getting looking at 380 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,599 starting the new fiscal year. So that 381 00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,040 means when we have to take a look at 382 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,839 wages um this is the proposed salary 383 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,320 ordinance for the utility side of the 384 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,280 organization. Um it would take effect 385 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,599 the pay period that includes October 1st 386 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,720 and has a 2 and a half% increase across 387 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,760 the board which matches the IBW 388 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,280 collective bargaining agreement was 389 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,870 approved. That was last year. 390 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,510 » Any questions from council? 391 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480 » Councilman Jensen. This is by contract. 392 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,839 Is that not correct? I mean, we've got 393 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:39,920 to match this up. This is this is funds 394 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,560 that were already been been uh allocated 395 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,839 and and this is our path forward. 396 00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:46,560 Correct. 397 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,960 >> So, it's it's two and a half% for 398 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,480 everyone. That includes those that are 399 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,480 in the in the bargaining unit and those 400 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,320 that are not the bargaining 401 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,000 Um the bargaining unit has been 402 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,560 contracted. The non-bargaining unit 403 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640 funds were budgeted with the budget. So 404 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,599 we did include that 405 00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,950 budget. 406 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,550 Any other questions from council? 407 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,190 Okay. I'll take public comment. 408 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,520 Seeing none, I'll come back to council 409 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,520 for a motion or any other discussion. 410 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,040 Councilman Horner. 411 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,720 >> If there's no further discussion, I 412 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,320 would make the motion that we approve 413 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,480 the first reading for ordinance 5753. 414 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:38,870 >> Councilwoman Le and I'll second. 415 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,680 » That motion carries 8 to zero. 416 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,920 Ordinance number 5753, an ordinance of 417 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,040 the city of Fremont, Nebraska, 418 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,560 pertaining to pay plan for officers and 419 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,839 employees, repealing ordinance number 420 00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:49,920 5740 and all other ordinances and parts 421 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,680 of ordinances in conflict with providing 422 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,440 for publication plan form providing for 423 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,040 an effect and providing for an effective 424 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:03,270 date first reading. 425 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,880 Councilman Horner. 426 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,280 >> Um, if there's no reason for us not to 427 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,680 do this and since it's a contractual 428 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000 matter and we've already decided that, I 429 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,599 would like to make the motion that we 430 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,560 suspend the rules and move this to third 431 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,920 and final reading. 432 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,000 >> Councilman uh gentleman 433 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:30,630 >> and I second that. 434 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,839 » That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor 435 00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:35,760 Ordinance number 5753, an ordinance of 436 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,119 the city of Fremont, Nebraska pertaining 437 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:38,480 to pay plan for officers and employees 438 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,240 appealing ordinance number 5740 and all 439 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,520 other ordinances parts of ordinance is 440 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,720 in conflict here with providing for 441 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,079 publication plan performance providing 442 00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:48,550 for an effect. Final reading 443 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,176 cast final vote. 444 00:37:54,186 --> 00:37:54,320 [clears throat] 445 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,000 >> That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor, 446 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,079 ordinance number 5753 is approved. 447 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,310 >> Thank you. 448 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,119 Item 19, ordinance 5754 for approval of 449 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:08,720 government salary ordinance. First 450 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:15,589 reading. 451 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,280 » Jennifer McDuffy, director of human 452 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,960 resources. Um, this is the salary for 453 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,040 the city side of the house. Um, again, 454 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,800 two and a half%. This covers the 455 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,240 non-bargaining unit and what was 456 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,640 contractually agreed upon in the FOPF. 457 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,920 asked me collective bargaining 458 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,680 agreements last year. Same effective 459 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,710 date. 460 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:41,990 » Any questions from council? 461 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,839 » Any comments from the public? 462 00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:51,750 >> I'll come back to council for a motion. 463 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,720 Councilman vaugh. 464 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,440 >> Motion to approve. 465 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,000 Councilman 466 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:02,630 >> her. I'll second. 467 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,599 That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor, 468 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,680 ordinance number 5754, an ordinance of 469 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,720 the city of Fremont, Nebraska, 470 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,160 pertaining to pay plan for officers and 471 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,440 employees repealing ordinance number 472 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,520 5725 and all of their ordinances or 473 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,280 parts of ordinances conflict here with 474 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,720 writing for publication and performed 475 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,000 writing for an effective date first 476 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:25,349 reading. 477 00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:26,720 Uh, Councilman Vaughn, 478 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,400 >> any reason not to move this third and 479 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,280 final as well? 480 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,640 >> Not to my knowledge. 481 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,760 >> I'll make that motion. 482 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,880 >> Councilman Johnson, 483 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:43,109 >> and I will second. 484 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,680 » The motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor 485 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Ordinance number 5754 and ordinance of 486 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,960 the city of Fremont, Nebraska pertaining 487 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,240 to pay plan for officers and employees 488 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,079 appealing ordinance number 5725 and all 489 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,359 other ordinances and parts of ordinances 490 00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:54,560 in conflict with providing for 491 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,240 publication form providing for an effect 492 00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:02,069 to date final reading. 493 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:09,510 Cash final vote. 494 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,960 » That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor 495 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,079 ordinance number 5754 is approved. 496 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,480 Thank you. 497 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,119 Uh item 20, ordinance 575, revising FMC 498 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,280 2-103 and eliminating an open public 499 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,720 comment period to comply with the 500 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,000 openness meeting act. First reading. 501 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,280 Yeah. 502 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,480 >> Thank you, mayor, members of city 503 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,520 council. Travis Jott, city attorney. Um 504 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,359 this was brought up following our last 505 00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:37,520 meeting. There was a complaint filed by 506 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,920 a citizen alleging that our open 507 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,119 meetings act as it is currently set up 508 00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:47,280 violates the open meetings act. Um 509 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,680 we took a look at it and we've been 510 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560 advising now that having a comment 511 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,560 period where items are not noticed on 512 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,680 the agenda could be a violation of open. 513 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,319 So really when you look at the analysis 514 00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:01,839 um there are three steps. We got to 515 00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:03,280 determine whether a meeting has taken 516 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,599 place and when there's a more than a 517 00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:08,720 quorum of the council present and we're 518 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,440 discussing city business being briefed 519 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,400 on anything taking city action that 520 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,800 would constitute a meeting. So I think 521 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,880 there's no doubt that having the council 522 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,800 here listening to comment would 523 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,520 constitute a meeting. The second thing 524 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,440 we want to look at is whether there was 525 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,680 advanced publicized notice of that 526 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,839 meeting. And we currently let the public 527 00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:32,319 know that we are having a public comment 528 00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:35,280 period at 6:30. Um but we don't let them 529 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,359 know what is going to be discussed. And 530 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:38,880 that's really the third element is we 531 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,560 have to have advanced publicized notice 532 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,359 of the topics for discussion. Um and 533 00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:44,960 that would be a description on an 534 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,160 agenda. Um this issue has come up in the 535 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,520 past with Fremont. Um there's been some 536 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,359 previous attorney general disposition 537 00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:56,240 letters that has discussed this issue 538 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,000 following complaints that were filed by 539 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,920 citizens on various issues. Um, there 540 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,560 was one disposition letter in particular 541 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,640 that dealt with our utility and 542 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,520 infrastructure board where the attorney 543 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,040 general, assistant attorney general that 544 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,359 worked on that complaint said that it 545 00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:15,440 was not a violation to have the when the 546 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,119 public comments on items not on the 547 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,359 agenda. 548 00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:21,839 That to me does not protect the city 549 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:23,920 completely from any potential liability 550 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,880 for a violation under the act. 551 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,400 A disposition letter handles a 552 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,000 complaint. There's still an attorney 553 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000 general opinion that could also be 554 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,240 provided, which we haven't sought for 555 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,079 this issue. Typically, that would be 556 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,319 provided when there's multiple 557 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:40,079 municipalities and public bodies that 558 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,000 face the same issue. The attorney 559 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,920 general will come out with a with an 560 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,240 opinion on that. And none of the 561 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,240 previous dispositions have discussed the 562 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,800 particular issue of advanced publicized 563 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,040 notice of public comments from the 564 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,560 public. So this is really the start of 565 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,040 what I would like to do is discuss 566 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,119 different methods of permitting public 567 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,079 comment that would comply with the act 568 00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:05,760 as it's written right now. We believe it 569 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,599 violates the open meetings act. I know 570 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,119 when you go down to talk to members of 571 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,119 the league municipal municipalities they 572 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,760 would agree. Um 573 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,720 so we've come up with this first step is 574 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,839 to eliminate it as it stands right now. 575 00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:22,400 The second step would be to come up with 576 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,720 a new format. And what I've proposed in 577 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,359 the past is members of the public are 578 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:30,000 permitted to add items to the agenda for 579 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,040 anything that they would want to 580 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,560 discuss. And that would actually, I 581 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,319 think, benefit the council and members 582 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:38,800 of the public in multiple ways. One is 583 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,359 the council would be able to engage in a 584 00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:42,480 discussion with that member of the 585 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,560 public on whatever that topic is because 586 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,880 it has been properly noticed. and number 587 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,280 two, the other members of the public 588 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,200 would know what is going to be briefed 589 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,920 or discussed in front of the council. 590 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,920 So, we think that would be a much better 591 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,359 approach. We think that would comply 592 00:43:57,359 --> 00:43:59,760 with the open meetings act there. The 593 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,079 current public comment period that isn't 594 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:04,240 properly noticed where uh with the 595 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:05,280 description of what's going to be 596 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520 discussed, there's no action taken right 597 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,880 now. So, it would be difficult for any 598 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,440 claimant to try to undo an action that 599 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,520 was done, but we still want to make sure 600 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,760 we're complying with the act. And I 601 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,440 think allowing members of the public to 602 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,160 submit items ahead of time would uh 603 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,079 still fulfill the spirit of allowing the 604 00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,040 public to speak. 605 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,880 >> With that, I'm here to answer any 606 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,920 questions. I know there's a lot of 607 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,920 interested people here to speak on this. 608 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,319 >> Councilman Councilman her. 609 00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:37,520 >> Uh, thank you, Mayor. Um, Travis, I know 610 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,720 you and I have talked about this a 611 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,079 little bit and I really appreciate you 612 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,480 bringing it forward. I honestly do. Um, 613 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,880 I think it's time we have had these 614 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,720 discussions and I think it's time we do 615 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,040 move this to the public arena so that we 616 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,319 can we can hash it out and and hopefully 617 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:55,760 get it right. Um, I I agree with you 618 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,000 that I from from what I've been able to 619 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,079 the short time I've had this and been 620 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:01,599 able to consider it, I agree with you 621 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,640 that we are under the present format. I 622 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,480 think we are probably in violation 623 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,920 because of the way we do it. Um, I have 624 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,119 found about five other communities that 625 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,440 seem to be doing 626 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,400 what we were doing with one caveat. I'll 627 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,119 get to that in a second, but Lincoln has 628 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:26,240 a um they call it something 629 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:27,920 different, but they have a basically a 630 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,800 public comment period. Um, so does L 631 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,200 Vista, so does Pilion. 632 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,560 um Arie, Norfolk, 633 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,640 and those were just the five that I 634 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:45,040 found real quick. Um you know, doing my keyboard warrior routine. Um 635 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,920 but anyways, you know, the one striking 636 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,599 difference in what they're doing versus 637 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:53,200 what we're not is that theirs are an 638 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,040 official part of the agenda 639 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,280 >> as public comments and theirs um um 640 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,200 comes after the meeting's been called to 641 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,240 order. um hours. That's the one striking 642 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:08,240 difference is that it's before we call 643 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:11,040 the meeting to order. And you know, as 644 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,480 if it's not part of the meeting, 645 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,960 although it it it it actually is part of 646 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,040 the meeting. It's just before we call 647 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,599 the meeting to order. Um and and I think 648 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,240 that's a bit of a technicality um that 649 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,280 we can fix. I would rather do that than 650 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,440 I would see to strike and kill this. I 651 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,839 think it's just too important um to the 652 00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:37,440 citizens of Fremont to um have the Now, the one thing I do want to make 653 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,200 clear too is that this is not killing 654 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,359 access. If we were to do this, if for 655 00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:43,040 some reason, guys, we were to do this. 656 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,280 doesn't kill access. 657 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,040 You can go out on our website and you 658 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,960 can find eight phone numbers to call 659 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,480 these people right here. You can find 660 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,079 the mayor's phone number. You can find 661 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,720 Jod's. You can find Travis yours. You 662 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,240 can find everybody's phone number. 663 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,599 There's access all over the place. Okay. 664 00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,280 The difference though in this, and this 665 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,280 is where I think it's key, the 666 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,280 difference is it's face toface. You can 667 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,280 come and you can orally present your 668 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,160 case and sometimes people just feel they 669 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,520 need to do that. And I think we need to 670 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,079 continue to provide that outlet. We have 671 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:18,720 to comply. So, we've got to figure that 672 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,920 piece out. So, I'm gonna I do have some 673 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,599 thoughts on that, but I'm going to stop 674 00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,040 because I know there's a lot of other 675 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,520 people talking. 676 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,510 Councilwoman, 677 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,920 » okay, I get to talk second. That's 678 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,440 great. Uh, we need to be finding ways 679 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,920 for our bosses, which are our taxpayers, 680 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,880 which are you, the opportunity to share 681 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,599 their thoughts with us. And so, it's 682 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:48,640 important that we find opportunities as 683 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,880 our councilman her projected and I had 684 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,280 found the same thing. I did go out and 685 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,560 check and yes, Lincoln is at the very 686 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,520 end public comment. Anyone wishing to 687 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,480 address the council on items that are on 688 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,160 the agenda or not on the agenda and may 689 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,560 not appear on future agendas can do an 690 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,359 open mic session is what they call it, 691 00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:15,280 but at least they're allowed total of 692 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680 five minutes. So there's a time frame 693 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,560 again. And so for the month of August, 694 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,119 they it was August 10th and August 31st 695 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,920 this year. I also found a couple others. 696 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,000 You probably found the same two. Nor 697 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,960 has it. And again, it was uh August 3rd 698 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,119 meeting of Norfork City Council. Item 699 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:41,280 number five says public comment period. 700 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,319 So on August 4th, Gretna City Council 701 00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:46,480 meeting, item number three is public 702 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,800 comment. 703 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,880 And Councilman her pointed out the main 704 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,319 difference it's on their agenda. It's 705 00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:58,400 not a it's not before our official 706 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,960 meeting. So when we have all of us 707 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,960 together that's constitutes a meeting 708 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,520 and we are not abiding by that. I think 709 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,760 we need to I do believe we need to abide 710 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,040 by it. But before we do, we need to find 711 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,880 ways and opportunities to have public 712 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,880 have their their thoughts and speech 713 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,280 heard by all of us. So, we need to 714 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:33,750 continue finding ways to have public comment. 715 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,000 » Okay. 716 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,160 Councilman Jensen, 717 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,480 >> um I agree with most of what's been 718 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,599 said. So far, I guess I'll say I'm the 719 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:45,040 only one sitting here on council was 720 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,839 actually on this council when this when 721 00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:50,480 this ordinance was brought forward. And 722 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,880 uh I'll be honest, I've been a little 723 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,119 disappointed in what it's evolved into. 724 00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,119 I I think we can do it better. I think 725 00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:58,559 we need to do something, but we need to 726 00:49:58,559 --> 00:49:59,839 do better than what we're doing right 727 00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:02,079 now. 728 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:05,920 >> Councilman von Baron. Yeah, this is I 729 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,680 know we've all invested a lot of time in 730 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,480 this one because it's a this this one 731 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,040 has a long tail. It probably actually 732 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,760 goes back to somewhere around 2008. 733 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,520 That's [snorts] there's a lot of history 734 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,000 behind that. But I think what's 735 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,680 sensitive here is there have been 736 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,319 multiple attempts to eliminate public 737 00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:28,319 comment. And I think what's even been 738 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:31,200 more frustrating, there have been 739 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,160 multiple requests, multiple suggestions 740 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,680 as to how to improve public comment. And 741 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,079 I think we as a city have to admit that 742 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,319 we have done nothing to improve the 743 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:44,800 process. We've done nothing to provide a 744 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,880 response. We've let people come and sit 745 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,359 and feel like they've been ignored and 746 00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:51,359 then we've made attempts to get rid of 747 00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:53,359 this process. I think we need to be 748 00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:55,200 sensitive to the fact that that has 749 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,559 presented a very bad image of what we 750 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,800 are and what we're trying to accomplish. 751 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,040 Two years ago, Travis, I brought your 752 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,359 suggestion to the council that we let 753 00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:08,160 the public put items on the agenda. I 754 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,040 think that was a 7 to1 vote. That didn't 755 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,359 see the light of day. I could not 756 00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:15,040 understand why the public couldn't bring 757 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,960 forth an item, but we brought we brought 758 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,440 that almost that exact motion and it got 759 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,880 voted down soundly. So, I think one of 760 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,200 the lessons here, and I'm glad this is 761 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,440 coming up again, but this is not a new 762 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,160 issue, and at some point, if we're going 763 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,520 to look at abolishing this, we better 764 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,280 come up with something that's 765 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,440 acceptable, that's at least as good, 766 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680 where the public is not restricted as 767 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,359 proposed right now. One of the 768 00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:43,920 consequences, if we're not careful, all 769 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,520 they're going to comment on is what we 770 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,440 want to talk about, what's on the 771 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,319 agenda. And we need to be very cons care 772 00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:54,240 careful of that. And I I don't I 773 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:56,480 understand our intent and this precedes 774 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,960 any of us here, but I also understand 775 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,480 the skepticism. So, thank you, 776 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,319 >> Councilman Marsh. 777 00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:06,000 >> You pretty much stole the words right 778 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,280 out of my mouth for everything you said 779 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,880 there. And I guess I would like to 780 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,319 anytime you read something that says 781 00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:13,040 taking away someone's voice, if they 782 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,880 have never been to one of those public 783 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,640 comments sections, it's it's very 784 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,040 awkward. Someone else mentioned that is 785 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,200 um maybe get here late or didn't realize 786 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,119 that that we cannot respond and they 787 00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:24,960 come up and and plead their case and we 788 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,160 sit there and nod our head and make our 789 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,760 notes and they walk away and they have 790 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,640 no idea if we even agree or or we're 791 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,079 accepting what they're saying and 792 00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:33,520 there's no worse feeling than not being 793 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,839 heard and uh so we certainly need to 794 00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:43,030 look at this that's for sure. 795 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,720 Um, so I've spoken with all of the 796 00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:50,880 members of the council and um, 797 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,040 generally we all agree that we don't 798 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,480 want to take anyone's voice away. It's 799 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,599 just a different format that we are 800 00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,640 having to present it, give you the 801 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,920 opportunity to speak. So it's not taking 802 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,680 it away. Um there's been stuff all over 803 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,000 social media saying that we wanted to 804 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,760 quiet the constituents. That is so not 805 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,319 true. Um we want to hear from people. Um 806 00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:25,119 we do however want it done in a way that 807 00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:28,559 the staff, the council are not being 808 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:32,400 attacked. Um there's there's just really 809 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,559 no room for that. I think people can 810 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,359 make their point without attacking 811 00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:40,880 anybody up here or anybody on the staff. 812 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,800 So I think we all need to be, you know, 813 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:51,270 conscious of that. 814 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,150 Marin, did you have Okay. 815 00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:00,470 Anybody else? 816 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,309 I'll take public comment. 817 00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:12,470 I got five for this. 818 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,559 » All right, Scott Preston, 1717 East 12th 819 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:15,680 Street. I'm going to go just a hair off 820 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,960 my script because I do have the five 821 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,599 minutes. First of all, um about the the 822 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:23,760 comment regarding uh city employees and attacking. I agree with you. City of 823 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,480 Lexington solves that by saying in the agenda that public comment is 824 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,760 allowed but uh you may not attack any 825 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,920 city employee. They cover that. They do 826 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,680 it in that way. So it can be done on the 827 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,920 regular agenda. Now so the staff report 828 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,160 was clear in its reasoning for ordinance 829 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,760 5755 to directly quote the council. Uh 830 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,599 we would need advanced publicized notice 831 00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,119 of the topics to be discussed as 832 00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:50,000 required by 84-1411E. 833 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,680 This does not happen under the format 834 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,880 described in FM FMC2-103 835 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,480 and the same should be eliminated to 836 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,720 comply with Nebraska law. Now, he 837 00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:00,240 referenced and I have right here with me 838 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:02,880 and sent to your emails today a scan 839 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,720 copy of a letter that the attorney 840 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:06,160 general and assistant attorney general 841 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,720 wrote to Susan Jacobus on November 19th, 842 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,280 2018. At that time, M. Jacobus was 843 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,480 concerned that a member of the public 844 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,240 was permitted to comment during a 845 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:15,920 utility and infrastructure board meeting 846 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,480 on a topic without that item or public 847 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,559 comment being on the agenda. And the 848 00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:24,559 response that uh that that he gave was was lengthy and there were several 849 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:26,880 other issues involved. But the key point 850 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,280 uh has very very clear language. It says 851 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,280 we understand that the board allows 852 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,359 public comment at each of its meetings. 853 00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:36,000 Its agendas should so reflect. We would 854 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,319 instruct the board to add an agenda item 855 00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:40,240 to its meetings for public comment to 856 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,160 properly alert members of the public 857 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,839 that they will be permitted to address 858 00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:45,839 the board at its meetings. The board, 859 00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:47,760 however, may allow members of the public 860 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,480 to address it on any topic and is not 861 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,319 required to limit public comment only to 862 00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:54,559 items found on the agenda, provided that 863 00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,040 the public comment period itself is on 864 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,880 the agenda. I want to repeat that last 865 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,280 line. It's very clear. The board, 866 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,440 however, may allow members of the public 867 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,640 to address it on any topic and is not 868 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,280 required to limit public comment only to 869 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,520 items found on the agenda, provided that 870 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,160 the public comment period itself is not 871 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,480 or is on the agenda. And when it comes 872 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,559 to the staff report, it seems to be 873 00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:20,720 heavily leaning on this excerpt from 874 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:23,359 84-1411E. 875 00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:25,119 quote, "Agenda items shall be 876 00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:26,880 sufficiently descriptive to give the 877 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,040 public reasonable notice of the matters 878 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,200 to be considered at the meeting." And I 879 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,200 want you to know that that particular 880 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,200 passage was added to the Open Meetings 881 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,359 Act in 2006, 12 years prior to the 882 00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:41,440 Attorney General's letter. The AG's 883 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,880 office would have been well aware of 884 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200 that change and didn't view it as an 885 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,440 impediment to open public comment 886 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,240 properly put on the agenda. I'd like to 887 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,520 add that I'd like to thank you for 888 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,920 mentioning Lincoln uh in in this 889 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,559 discussion because I reached out to the 890 00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:58,640 Lincoln City Attorney's Office and I did 891 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,720 hear from Chris Connelly, the assistant 892 00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,640 city attorney. I asked if they had any 893 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,359 concerns about the legality of having 894 00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:07,839 open public comment and and I did get 895 00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:09,520 here was his quote. He said that he was 896 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,640 not aware of any complaints to our 897 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,000 office or concerns from anyone that our 898 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,559 open public comment sessions are 899 00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:20,319 illegal. And also I'd note that the 900 00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:21,920 views of Adams and Sullivan here are not 901 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,000 shared by all Nebraska attorneys. The 902 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,559 Nebraska law firm Rimol Luki wrote in 903 00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:29,440 2024 that to comply with the open 904 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,520 meetings act as amended, public bodies 905 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,200 should include an open mic public 906 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,680 comment period at every public meeting. 907 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,440 Now, I don't necessarily agree with that 908 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,079 interpretation 100%. But you guys should 909 00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:41,200 know that there are other 910 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,200 interpretations of this statute out 911 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,079 there. And now, usually I come before 912 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,359 you to complain. But tonight, I think 913 00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:51,440 there's a relatively simple solution. We 914 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,119 need to bring public comment onto the 915 00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:55,280 regular agenda in the way that Lincoln 916 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,280 does and and Scotsluff and all the other 917 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,440 cities that you mentioned. Set a three 918 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,200 minute per person rule. Cap the time at 919 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,480 30 minutes, and during most meetings, 920 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,400 you'll be able to move on in less than 921 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,680 10 minutes. I've been here for the 922 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,920 public comment period before. Sometimes 923 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,319 only two or three folks. And you know, 924 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,559 the law can be followed, the public can 925 00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:14,720 be heard, and we're going to save you 926 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,079 some time in the process because if 927 00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:17,920 nobody's here, nobody signs up, just 928 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,040 move on, and you don't have to look at 929 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,119 each other for a half an hour. Um, it's a win all around. So, I think you 930 00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:24,480 need to vote no on this ordinance 931 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,319 tonight. Take it back to the drawing 932 00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:27,920 board because we can and certainly 933 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,480 should do better. Thank you. 934 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,400 >> Thank you. [clears throat] Anybody 935 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,670 else? 936 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:40,960 Please state your name and address, 937 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,480 please. 938 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,119 >> Jonathan Shahan, 1205, County Roadex, 939 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:47,440 Fremont, Nebraska. Earlier today, my 940 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,359 signed written objection to ordinance 941 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:52,160 number 5755 was provided by email to 942 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,920 every member of the city council, the 943 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,839 mayor, and the city clerk. Before this 944 00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:57,520 meeting began, I also delivered a paper 945 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,680 copy directly to the city clerk. I am 946 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,680 now presenting that written objection in 947 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,520 connection with this agenda item and ask 948 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,040 that it be retained as part of the 949 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,520 record and reflected in the minutes. The 950 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,040 central point of that objection is 951 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,359 simple. Eliminating Fremont's regular 952 00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:13,359 public comment period is not required by 953 00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:16,079 the Nebraska Open Meetings Act. At the 954 00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:17,680 last city council meeting, a citizen 955 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,200 objected to the way Fremont was 956 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,040 conducting public comment. That 957 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,520 procedural problem can be fixed. 958 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,440 Instead, the city is using that 959 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,520 procedural issue as justification to 960 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,359 eliminate Fremont's regular public 961 00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:31,839 comment period altogether. Those are two 962 00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:33,839 completely different things. The city 963 00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:35,520 can comply with the open meetings act 964 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,240 without taking away the public's regular 965 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,480 opportunity to address the council. If 966 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,720 this ordinance passes, it will not be 967 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,400 because state law required it. It will 968 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,079 be because the city council chose to 969 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,760 silence the constituents who elected 970 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,559 them. Make no mistake, this is a policy 971 00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:52,559 decision. The question is simple. Should 972 00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,559 citizens continue to have a regular 973 00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:56,720 opport to have a regular opportunity to 974 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:57,920 come before their elected 975 00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,760 representatives and be heard or will the 976 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,920 members of the city council based on 977 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,079 legal advice that misstates what the 978 01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:06,240 open meetings act requires decide that 979 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,720 access to your elected officials should 980 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,520 be taken away. Do not let the 981 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,280 elimination of Fremont's regular public 982 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,440 comment period be sold to the public as 983 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,280 something required by the Nebraska Open 984 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,160 Meetings Act. It isn't. Thank you. 985 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400 >> Thank you. 986 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:30,470 Anybody else? 987 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,799 » Your name and address, please. 988 01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:36,079 >> Don Atwell, 1650 North Broad Street, 989 01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:38,880 Fremont, Nebraska. Thank you for hearing 990 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,160 my concern, council. Mr. Mayor, uh, I do 991 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,720 not pretend to know, I'm not a lawyer. I 992 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,640 don't pretend to know all the rules and 993 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,160 laws concerning public meetings. 994 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,119 understand that local laws uh must be in 995 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:52,720 compliance with state laws and higher 996 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,400 authorities. That's understandable. 997 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,720 However, I find it difficult to believe 998 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,640 that the Open Meetings Act would have 999 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,040 language that would discourage a 1000 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,599 community's voice on issues that concern 1001 01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,720 them. I understand that public comments 1002 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,960 can be uncomfortable. 1003 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,599 Common commentators can be at times 1004 01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:14,480 rude, untruthful, 1005 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,400 ill-informed, 1006 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,799 uh, self-serving, etc. He probably could 1007 01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:21,359 add to the list considerably. I commend 1008 01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:23,599 this council's patience in in hearing 1009 01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:25,760 those and listening those. A 1010 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,599 representative form of government is 1011 01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:30,079 fundamental to a free society. A 1012 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:31,520 government left to the hands of 1013 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,480 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats is 1014 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,119 another step away from a free society 1015 01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:40,079 and toward totalitarianism. 1016 01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:42,240 Public comment on matters that affect 1017 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,480 community is not only necessary for 1018 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,119 gaining perspective on how potential 1019 01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:49,599 decisions may affect the community, but 1020 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,920 can also yield useful suggestions and 1021 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,680 information to assist in the 1022 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,079 decision-making process. 1023 01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:58,000 Therefore, I ask the council's continued 1024 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,880 patience. I'm sure that the same lawyers 1025 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,119 that are pushing for the elimination of 1026 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:04,799 the public comment section of the 1027 01:02:04,799 --> 01:02:07,599 meetings can find a way to legally 1028 01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:10,240 preserve the public's voice in local 1029 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,760 affairs if they are directed to do so by 1030 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,319 those to whom they are accountable. The 1031 01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:18,240 thing that makes me most suspicious of 1032 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,000 this is we're in a sounds like we're in 1033 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,319 a big hurry to eliminate it with nothing 1034 01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:24,400 to take his place. And I understand you 1035 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,160 Mr. Von Baron, this has been an issue 1036 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,559 since 2008. 1037 01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:31,680 Two 18 years. 18 years we've had an 1038 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,240 opportunity to come up with a solution. 1039 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,079 It seems like we're in a big hurry to to 1040 01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:37,839 end it. That's what makes me suspicious. 1041 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:40,000 I don't know about anybody else, but uh 1042 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,119 thank you very much for attention. 1043 01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:46,390 >> Thank you. 1044 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:55,589 Anybody else on this? 1045 01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:56,880 Please state your name and address, 1046 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,393 please. 1047 01:02:59,393 --> 01:03:00,240 [clears throat] 1048 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,040 My name is Teresa McGrander at 1825 1049 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,319 North Keen Avenue, Fremont, Nebraska. 1050 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:09,359 Um, good evening. This issue isn't about 1051 01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:12,079 one person or one organization. 1052 01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:14,160 It's about every resident here in 1053 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,520 Fremont, Dodge County. Someday each of 1054 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,920 us have a concern that isn't already on 1055 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,760 the council's agenda. Plus, you guys can 1056 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,319 remove what is on the agenda. I just saw 1057 01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:30,880 you do three of them tonight. So, if we 1058 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,640 put something on your agenda, who's 1059 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,480 going to say you're not going to vote to 1060 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,039 remove it? 1061 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:42,720 I don't know. So, do we ensure our local 1062 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,760 um officials to hear us. The public 1063 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,520 comment isn't always comfortable and 1064 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,839 sometimes citizens praise the government 1065 01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:52,799 and sometimes they criticize them. Both 1066 01:03:52,799 --> 01:03:55,280 are a healthy democracy. 1067 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,839 Please do not 1068 01:03:57,839 --> 01:04:00,400 reduce the opportunity for the public 1069 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,240 participation. 1070 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,079 For years, there's been repeated 1071 01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:08,319 attempts to eliminate the public 1072 01:04:08,319 --> 01:04:11,359 comments and addresses. I don't even 1073 01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:14,559 know who represents my ward. 1074 01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:19,119 I've never spoke to her anybody. Deb 1075 01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:21,680 represented my ward because I voted for 1076 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,160 him. Now he's a mayor. Who represents 1077 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,760 me? Who represents my ward? I don't know 1078 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,520 why. 1079 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,319 You all say that he's going to make it 1080 01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:37,520 public. How in the Fremont Tribune where 1081 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,760 you have to pay to read it and it it's 1082 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,240 all online. 1083 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,319 I've got the Tribune forever, but I will 1084 01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:47,440 not read it on the computer. 1085 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,480 So, where is the trust? You guys need to 1086 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,920 get this community's trust. There was an 1087 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,639 event last week. None of you knew about 1088 01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:58,319 [clears throat] it. 1089 01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:00,160 Somebody did because they ordered to 1090 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,480 have it done. 1091 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,960 They going to be accountable for it. 1092 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,440 Y'all know what I'm talking about. I 1093 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,559 have a voice. It's the first amendment 1094 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:14,160 and I'm going to exercise it. Either 1095 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,280 please vote no because we have a lot to 1096 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,319 say. Like I said, sometimes we're not 1097 01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:24,000 comfortable coming up here. Sometimes we 1098 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000 don't know if you guys even listen to us 1099 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,000 because we walk away and you do just the 1100 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,039 opposite of of what we argued about. 1101 01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:34,240 There's another defeat of the citizens. 1102 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,359 You guys all said good speeches. You 1103 01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:40,640 represent the citizens of Fremont. 1104 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:55,190 Please do and vote no. Thank you. 1105 01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,549 » Please state your name and address. 1106 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,240 Good evening, mayor and members of the 1107 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,079 council. My name is Dylan Martinez, 1108 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:06,400 residing at 1435 East 12th Street here 1109 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,960 in Fremont. I stand before you tonight 1110 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,240 specifically regarding ordinance 5755. 1111 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,640 Um, I prepared this before a lot of the 1112 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,079 transparency that described here. So, 1113 01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:17,280 I'm just going to say this real quick 1114 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,440 because it does still pertain and then 1115 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:20,480 I'm going to make a couple comments 1116 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,000 regarding everything that has also been 1117 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,119 said. So, at the last meeting, Mr. coats 1118 01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:26,559 raised concerns about a potential 1119 01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,079 violation occurring during the public 1120 01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,880 comment period. I watched the video. I 1121 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,039 rewatched the video. However, he was 1122 01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,440 never specific in with the public as to 1123 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,440 what the alleged violation actually was. 1124 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,599 That lack of clarity led left the 1125 01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,359 community in the dark and now we are 1126 01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:43,359 faced with this potential ordinance 1127 01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:45,680 removal. Um, which suffers from the same 1128 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,160 lack of ambiguity. So, I do appreciate a 1129 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,400 lot of, you know, being transparent of 1130 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,559 what we're trying to do here, but that 1131 01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:54,000 essentially has left the language 1132 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,920 surrounding this ordinance as vague and 1133 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,520 citizens rightly asking what is the 1134 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,119 ultimate goal here. So, we want to be 1135 01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:01,359 very clear and draw a line. Um, if the 1136 01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:03,359 goal of this is just a simple minor 1137 01:07:03,359 --> 01:07:04,880 technicality, which it seems like it's 1138 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,640 starting to point towards to formally 1139 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,559 establish a designated structured time 1140 01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:10,640 block on the official agenda for open 1141 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,440 public comment to ensure full procedural 1142 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,000 compliance. That is fine. In fact, that 1143 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,520 is a standard administrative practice 1144 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,880 that should have been established years 1145 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,559 ago. Just as the first speaker had 1146 01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:22,400 mentioned, let's just put a thing on the 1147 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,200 docket that says open public comment 30 1148 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,839 period. Nobody rests a spot, we can make 1149 01:07:27,839 --> 01:07:30,240 a motion to move past it. um you know 1150 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,319 assuming that everybody has a time to 1151 01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:34,160 speak 1152 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,079 in in 1153 01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:38,400 however if the ultimate goal of this 1154 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,079 ordinance is to eliminate the 30-inut 1155 01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:42,000 open public comment period in its 1156 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,160 entirety or to create a process where 1157 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,400 officials can pre-screen gatekeep and 1158 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,839 cherrypick questions or citizens get um 1159 01:07:49,839 --> 01:07:53,359 cherrypick questions which that 1160 01:07:53,359 --> 01:07:56,559 cherrypick which questions or citizens 1161 01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:58,319 that get heard and that is a massive 1162 01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:00,319 problem. Open public comment is not a 1163 01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:01,920 courtesy granted at the council's 1164 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,680 discretion. It is a community's primary 1165 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,599 window for unscripted accountability. 1166 01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:07,440 When public officials face uncomfortable 1167 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,880 questions, the solution is better 1168 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,960 governance, not transparency, not 1169 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,799 removing the microphone. If the concern 1170 01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:13,920 of the council members might 1171 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,680 accidentally debate non-aggenda items 1172 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,520 and trigger an open meetings act issue. 1173 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,440 The fix is simple. Enforce a strict 1174 01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:21,279 listen only rule for the council members 1175 01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:23,040 during open comment. You do not need to 1176 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,640 silence the public to keep the council 1177 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,480 compliant with state law. I urge the 1178 01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:28,799 council to clarify the extent um the 1179 01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:31,440 exact intent of the ordinance 5755 on 1180 01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:33,199 record tonight. If this ordinance strips 1181 01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:34,880 away or restricts our 30-minut open 1182 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,640 public comment period, I strongly urge 1183 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,880 you to vote no. Thank you. Now, with 1184 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,719 that in mind, um the last couple things 1185 01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:42,640 that I just want to comment on, you 1186 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,400 know, the whole open meetings act is 1187 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,239 supposed to be set up as a listenon 1188 01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:48,239 rule. It's something for people to come 1189 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,880 here unscripted to present communities 1190 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,960 and um you know, issues with you. just 1191 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,679 as uh you know the gentleman last week 1192 01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:58,880 about um tree removal services that 1193 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,040 potentially was still in effect you know 1194 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,880 50 some years ago and that we've shifted 1195 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,719 away from that as a society. There are 1196 01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:07,279 things that we need to bring to you for 1197 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:08,960 you guys to talk about. But at the same 1198 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,759 light, if there are um specific 1199 01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:13,520 articulated 1200 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,759 public forums where we can talk to you 1201 01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:18,159 as representatives and get answers back, 1202 01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:20,080 that also is very nice too because it's 1203 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,759 nice to know that you're heard. But at 1204 01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:23,759 the same time, we need to make sure that 1205 01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:26,560 we can be heard as citizens um of our 1206 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,239 country. And also to the comment 1207 01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:29,679 definitely, you know, when we're in open 1208 01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:32,080 public comment, we need to speak about 1209 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,080 people in an objective manner, not a 1210 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,640 subjective manner. So definitely be 1211 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,159 friendly to your citizens. We're all 1212 01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:39,359 humans here at the end of the day, 1213 01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:41,120 right? So, thank you so much and hope 1214 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,880 you have a great day. 1215 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,799 >> Thank you. 1216 01:09:44,799 --> 01:10:01,910 >> Anybody else on this? 1217 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,960 » State your name and address, please. 1218 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,239 >> Street. Uh before I get on to this uh my 1219 01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:10,320 what I was going to talk about uh I'm 1220 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,360 looking at item 20 here and uh you know 1221 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,520 everybody talked about we need to revise 1222 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,239 it and make it better for people allow 1223 01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:21,840 it but this definitely states that uh 1224 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,560 the intent is to elim eliminate the open 1225 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,560 public comment period is what it says 1226 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,800 right here. So you have to be careful on 1227 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:33,440 what you say and what this says. 1228 01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:35,760 That being said, uh, mayor and council 1229 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,760 members, I want to thank you for letting 1230 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,840 me speak tonight. 1231 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,709 Um, 1232 01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:46,640 Nebraska law says the citizens have the 1233 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,760 right to speak in public bodies and are 1234 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,440 given the opportunity to speak at each 1235 01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:52,960 meeting. 1236 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,640 If the city council eliminates a public 1237 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,440 uh uh comment section, citizens are not 1238 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:02,239 allowed to speak about subjects that are 1239 01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,480 already in the agenda. 1240 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,640 I would like to ask the city council, 1241 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,760 how is an ordinary um citizen supposed 1242 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,360 to publicly bring new issues to the 1243 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,560 council if that isn't or that isn't 1244 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,840 already on the agenda. 1245 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:24,630 You control the agenda and we don't. 1246 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,600 What's uh and and that's why the open 1247 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,080 public comment is important. It gives 1248 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,000 citizens an opportunity to come before 1249 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,800 their elected officials to say there's 1250 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,400 something wrong here in Fremont that you 1251 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,960 need to know about. 1252 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,320 Maybe it's a problem with the street, a 1253 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,239 safety concern, 1254 01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:49,199 how tax money is being spent, 1255 01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:50,880 or something the city doesn't even know 1256 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,640 about. 1257 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,800 If it's not on the agenda without a 1258 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,960 public comment, 1259 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,000 when do the when do the citizens get an 1260 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,840 opportunity to stand here and bring 1261 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,360 these issues to the entire council in 1262 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:10,560 public? Now, you talked about doing uh emails and stuff like that. 1263 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,480 That's that's good. But I I still think 1264 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:14,640 people need to be do needs to be done in 1265 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,440 public so everybody including the public 1266 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:20,000 knows what's going on. 1267 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,440 There is a difference between allowing 1268 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,120 citizens to comment on what the city 1269 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,920 council has decided to discuss and 1270 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,080 allowing citizens tell the city 1271 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,960 what they believe needs to be discussed. 1272 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,040 The open 1273 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,840 uh comment provides that opportunity and 1274 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,560 it's important. The council shouldn't be 1275 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,280 the one deciding which issues are 1276 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,159 important enough to talk about at in 1277 01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:48,480 public. Taking away the open public 1278 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:51,679 comment might make it make the meeting 1279 01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:54,320 shorter, might make it easier to manage, 1280 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,719 but convenience should not become an 1281 01:12:56,719 --> 01:12:58,560 expense of 1282 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,400 communicating between the citizens and 1283 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,199 people elected to present represent 1284 01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:07,120 them. You may not like you may not agree 1285 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,600 what is said on the microphone. 1286 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,840 You may hear criticism. I'm sorry, but 1287 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,040 that's public service. 1288 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,719 It's about giving citizens a voice. 1289 01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:21,679 If this is a problem with an open public 1290 01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:24,640 comment currently works, then fix it 1291 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,800 fairly. And we've talked about some 1292 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,520 things tonight. But don't eliminate that 1293 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,400 opportunity because once a citizen can 1294 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,760 only because once citizens can only 1295 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,440 publicly discuss what the government 1296 01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,600 puts on the agenda, 1297 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,960 the government is controlling the 1298 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,280 meeting. is controlling the 1299 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,440 conversation. Please don't take away the 1300 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:48,080 voice of the citizens of Fremont. Thank 1301 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:53,430 you. 1302 01:13:53,440 --> 01:14:03,910 Anybody else on this? 1303 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,520 Jerry Delaney, 2940 Lever Street, Mont. 1304 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,440 Uh, I understand from the discussion 1305 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,440 earlier tonight that this all came about 1306 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,760 because one person complained and didn't 1307 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,080 want public comment any longer. It 1308 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,600 sounds to me like there's considerably 1309 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,600 more people that would disagree with 1310 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,800 that and do want it. Uh, no decisions 1311 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,719 are ever made public comment. So, what I 1312 01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:29,040 have read in the Open Meetings Act, I 1313 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,440 don't see how you're violating the Open 1314 01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:34,400 Meetings Act in any way. I I think we 1315 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,600 need to see a definite solution to the 1316 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,800 problem. And I agree with what 1317 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,719 Councilman Van Beern and a couple others 1318 01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:42,960 of you said earlier. Yeah, what we're 1319 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,280 doing now isn't working, but you don't 1320 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,719 get rid of it without first having 1321 01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:52,239 something put in place to replace it. We 1322 01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:54,159 already have a very limited amount of 1323 01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:57,040 time and a very limited format in which 1324 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,280 the public can address the council on 1325 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,800 concerns. 1326 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,040 Why take away this last little piece of 1327 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,880 open discussion that exists between the 1328 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,840 public and yourselves without first 1329 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,080 enacting a definite and a better 1330 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,679 solution? 1331 01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:14,080 I understand that I'm free to reach out 1332 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,800 to my council person, to the mayor, or 1333 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,440 whoever anytime I want, but if I want to 1334 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:22,000 address an issue to not just my council 1335 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,880 person, but to all of you, as well as to 1336 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,000 the mayor and city administrators and 1337 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,239 the city attorneys and the public in 1338 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:31,840 general. 1339 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,800 And I want to be sure that I've conveyed 1340 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,960 the same messages accurately and equally 1341 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,840 to all of you at the same time. I can't 1342 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,520 do that with a bunch of different phone 1343 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,520 calls or a bunch of different meetings. 1344 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,750 That's just not possible. 1345 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,840 There already exists a feeling of 1346 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,840 mistrust between the public and all 1347 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,719 those government. This lack of trust 1348 01:15:54,719 --> 01:15:57,120 that exists is more often than not 1349 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,880 unfounded. 1350 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,000 But nonetheless, it does exist. Why 1351 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,159 would you want to increase this level of 1352 01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,080 animosity? 1353 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,320 I urge you to vote this ordinance down 1354 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,159 until you have something better to 1355 01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:12,800 replace it. I urge you to clearly show 1356 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,520 the voters of Fremont that you want to 1357 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,920 hear from them in some manner. And I beg 1358 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,159 to not put up a wall between our 1359 01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:24,880 community and those of you that serve. 1360 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,000 Thank you for your time. 1361 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,960 Anybody 1362 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:55,510 else on this? 1363 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:56,800 » State your name and address, please. 1364 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,600 Brad Jüger, 2318 East Fifth Street, 1365 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:04,353 former city council member for Ward 4. 1366 01:17:04,353 --> 01:17:05,040 [clears throat] 1367 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,640 I'd like to start my discussion tonight 1368 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,120 with a little background in history. Uh 1369 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,480 so that those of you that weren't here 1370 01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:12,719 when this all went about uh understand 1371 01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:14,320 where we're coming from. Back in 1372 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,840 December 2018, the mayor gets appointed 1373 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,280 to the mayor's committee to look into 1374 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,080 open public comment. They they 1375 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,080 commissioned uh assistance from McGrath 1376 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,560 North Omaha based law firm who was the 1377 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,360 county city attorney at the time. They 1378 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,080 went about um drafting this ordinance 1379 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,239 that you have in front of you today uh 1380 01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:36,719 with McGrath's North Oversight all the 1381 01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:39,280 way through. They had to decide what 1382 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,960 type of forum would be considered. And 1383 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,800 it was discussed that the act defines 1384 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,840 meetings quote as regular, special, or 1385 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,520 called meetings, formal or informal, 1386 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,760 that require discussion of public 1387 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,920 business, formation of policies, or the 1388 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,400 taking of action by the public body as 1389 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,960 discussion 841409. 1390 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,600 An open mic session that we have today 1391 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,880 doesn't require any of that. 1392 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,760 It is a forum for presentation by the 1393 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,920 public. There is no action, no public 1394 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,800 business. The committee was advised by 1395 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,120 legal that the open mic session would 1396 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,600 not be a meeting of council, nor would 1397 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,760 it invoke the meeting definitions and 1398 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,520 standards defined by the open meetings 1399 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,960 act if not any part of the meeting was 1400 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,760 defined where only the so the the public 1401 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,400 could speak and council members could 1402 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,080 attend voluntarily. They weren't 1403 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,800 required to. There was no roll call. 1404 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,880 They only listened so that the public 1405 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,880 could get their information out into the 1406 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,520 hands of the public. Therefore, McGrath 1407 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,000 Nor said, contrary to current advice, 1408 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,719 this was not a meeting. This was a forum 1409 01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:46,880 for the public to provide public 1410 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,400 comment. 1411 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,480 They also recommended that the city not 1412 01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:53,120 make it part of a open public comment 1413 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,080 part of a regular meeting. And why? 1414 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,360 because that would make it u subject to 1415 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,600 open meetings act rules because now you 1416 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,679 have a published agenda. Now you would 1417 01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:06,000 have to have all of this other um 1418 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,520 activity with regards to what are you 1419 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,199 going to speak to etc. It was not an 1420 01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:13,360 open mic. It was registration only. That 1421 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,199 would be a bad idea. We want to have 1422 01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:17,600 more transparency and opportunity. So 1423 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,080 they took the matter under advisement 1424 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,760 and they developed the policy that we 1425 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,520 had. They had the first reading in 1426 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,640 January of 29, January 29th of 19, 1427 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,640 second reading on February 29th, final 1428 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,800 reading on February 26, and it became 1429 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,880 city ordinance after that. They had the 1430 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,800 first meeting of open public comment on 1431 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,199 March 2019. It's been in effect ever 1432 01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:40,320 since. Now, the critical part of what I 1433 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,880 think is important here is you need to 1434 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,280 define really what is a meeting. Your 1435 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,600 city legal council says that that is a 1436 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,080 meeting. I'm telling you, McGrath North 1437 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,400 told us emphatically it was not a 1438 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,199 meeting for the reasons I just gave you. 1439 01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:56,800 Therefore, if it's not a meeting, you're 1440 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,360 not bound by those kinds of uh arguments 1441 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,679 that are being made currently. And and 1442 01:20:01,679 --> 01:20:02,960 more importantly, the trust and 1443 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,239 transparency that have been mentioned 1444 01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:06,239 tonight are critical. That's why this 1445 01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:07,760 was started in the first place. Three 1446 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,000 council members and and a fourth that 1447 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,920 was appointed to this committee are 1448 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,080 adamant we needed to do something about 1449 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,560 transparency in Fremont. This was the 1450 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,520 result. 1451 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,000 Since this was passed, multiple 1452 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,280 occasions have occurred when the present 1453 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,120 law firm has attempted to get rid of 1454 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,960 public comment 1455 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,679 altogether. 1456 01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:34,719 The uh lead person, lead lawyer at the 1457 01:20:34,719 --> 01:20:36,719 firm even wrote city code to eliminate 1458 01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:39,199 all public comment. Fortunately, the 1459 01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:41,840 council rebuffed that. I ask that you 1460 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,000 not rebuff the the public this time 1461 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,280 round requiring us to put things on the 1462 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,640 agenda. Just this is not appropriate. 1463 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,120 Please discontinue this discussion alto 1464 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,640 together. Thank you. 1465 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,280 >> Thank you. 1466 01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:09,910 >> That's it. 1467 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,360 Right. Tough 1537 Brewer Drive. Good 1468 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,520 evening, Mayor and Council. The 1469 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,360 ordinance is being presented as a 1470 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:18,960 measure to comply with Nebraska Open 1471 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,719 Meetings Act, but after reading the city 1472 01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:22,480 attorney's memo and reviewing the law 1473 01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,480 myself, I have serious questions about 1474 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,239 whether eliminating open public comment 1475 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,560 is actually required. The memo argues 1476 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,719 that because citizens may not may speak 1477 01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:32,719 on topics that are not known in advance, 1478 01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:34,239 the city must eliminate the public 1479 01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:36,880 comment period altogether. Yet Nebraska 1480 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,120 law also states that the public public 1481 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,120 bodies shall allow members to speak 1482 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,040 and have an opportunity to speak at each 1483 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,600 meeting meeting. So my first question is 1484 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,080 simple. Travis, can you tell us what 1485 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,320 Nebraska Supreme Court case or attorney 1486 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,480 general opinion specifically says that 1487 01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:56,159 allowing citizens to speak on matters 1488 01:21:56,159 --> 01:21:57,920 not listed on the agenda violates the 1489 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,239 Open Meetings Act? If such authority 1490 01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:02,159 exists, please share it with the public. 1491 01:22:02,159 --> 01:22:04,400 If it does not, then this appears to be 1492 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,360 legal in interpretation, not a legal 1493 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,239 mandate. Across Nebraska, city councils, 1494 01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:12,159 boards, school boards, and other public 1495 01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:14,000 bodies continue to provide opportunities 1496 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,080 for public comment. Many do so by 1497 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,520 allowing citizens to speak while 1498 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,400 limiting limiting discussion by elect 1499 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,400 officials on matters that are not on the 1500 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:27,040 agenda. So, basically, 1501 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,800 hopefully all of you guys have 1502 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,560 understood and read that you're supposed 1503 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,560 to be following Robert's rules. Um, and 1504 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,320 we've provided copies to the council 1505 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,719 before, we'd be happy to do it again. 1506 01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:41,600 But, um, if you can't see that, it's the 1507 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,560 lack in trust for our government. So, I 1508 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,800 urge you not to vote for this tonight, 1509 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,320 um, until you guys can put something 1510 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,800 else in place, um, and try to get the, 1511 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:58,320 you know, trust back into our, you know, 1512 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,080 public officials because I tell you 1513 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,560 what, just last week, I emailed each one 1514 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,520 of you guys. There was one who emailed 1515 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,199 me back. 1516 01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:10,239 One of you guys. And you guys can't 1517 01:23:10,239 --> 01:23:12,400 forget that. We put you guys in your 1518 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,600 positions. You work for us. Those two 1519 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,120 work for us, too. For you guys. You guys 1520 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,400 are supposed to be in charge of them. 1521 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,960 And they're the ones that keep trying to 1522 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,320 pull this kind of stuff. And it's all 1523 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,000 because they know that there's stuff 1524 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,760 coming, you know, where people want to 1525 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,159 use the open public comment period. So, 1526 01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:33,840 please continue to listen to your 1527 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,560 constituents. Don't try to rely I hope 1528 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,320 the citizens don't try to rely on just 1529 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,040 using your email addresses because it 1530 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,600 doesn't work. Only one of you replied 1531 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,080 back to me and can't even get a meeting 1532 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,639 with city attorney or city 1533 01:23:48,639 --> 01:24:04,470 administrator. So, thank you. 1534 01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:06,880 » Please state your name and address. 1535 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,840 >> Name is George Nadomo. I live at 2332 1536 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,159 East Third Street. Hello, council 1537 01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:16,080 members and mayor. Um, just listening to 1538 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,719 everybody today here, uh, I just want to 1539 01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:21,600 encourage the council to vote against 1540 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,800 this. It seems to me like all these 1541 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,040 people over here that vote for everybody 1542 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,199 up here, I haven't heard a single one 1543 01:24:29,199 --> 01:24:31,600 come up here and say, "Yeah, let's go 1544 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,320 for it." They're all confi either 1545 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,040 they're against it or maybe there's even 1546 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,840 some confusion. And that tells me that 1547 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,760 you guys need to go back and take 1548 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,000 another look at this. And you got to 1549 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,080 remember, you're representing these 1550 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,560 people. You want to have the best for 1551 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,360 them. And their comments are very 1552 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,400 important. So I encourage you vote 1553 01:24:54,400 --> 01:25:07,030 against them. 1554 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,920 Please state your name and address 1555 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,719 >> at 2550 Deerfield Avenue. I do 1556 01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:14,800 appreciate this open discussion over 1557 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,440 this and yes, public comment is 1558 01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:20,000 important for you guys to have the open 1559 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,719 ears to listen and understand different 1560 01:25:22,719 --> 01:25:25,600 situations that are going around town. 1561 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,239 Um, I did hear the mayor this morning 1562 01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:30,080 say 1563 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,320 everything is open as far as make a 1564 01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,480 phone call or email your 1565 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:37,760 representatives. I've done both. I heard 1566 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,480 back from one on the situation this last 1567 01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:44,000 week and I've left voicemails and I've 1568 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,840 never heard back. I've contacted 1569 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,239 uh street department over a concern in 1570 01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:52,639 our neighborhood probably two three 1571 01:25:52,639 --> 01:25:56,880 weeks ago which in the 1572 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,120 explanation of what the street 1573 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,320 department does hesitate to you know 1574 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,880 email them and tell them your concerns 1575 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,760 and I have not heard back. So, it's kind 1576 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,920 of hard to feel. I mean, and it's the 1577 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,000 technology world that it is that nobody 1578 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,320 picks up the phone to talk on the phone, 1579 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,480 but when you offer to have either the 1580 01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:22,159 emails or leave a voicemail and don't 1581 01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:24,480 hear back, it just leaves everybody 1582 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:27,600 hanging and wondering and concerned. So, 1583 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,239 I'd appreciate I appreciate all the 1584 01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:31,760 discussion that has been going on 1585 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,000 tonight. Hope you can get this all 1586 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,840 figured out. 1587 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,920 Thank you. 1588 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:49,510 Anybody else on this? 1589 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,280 » Please state your name and address. 1590 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,159 >> My name is Stan Hart. I live in 1535 1591 01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:57,600 North Logan. I've been in this town for 1592 01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,440 72 years. I've seen a lot of things 1593 01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:03,520 going on in this town since I've been 1594 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,159 here. Can't say everything has been the 1595 01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:09,199 best, but sometimes it hasn't been the 1596 01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:12,000 worst. My wife Cindy and I came here 1597 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,920 tonight to find out what was going on 1598 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,840 with this discussion about our first 1599 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,239 amendment rights of city council 1600 01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:20,960 meeting. And I know through the years, 1601 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,960 having been to some previously in the 1602 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,679 past, that through the years, it seems 1603 01:27:25,679 --> 01:27:28,719 like the open meeting supposedly for us 1604 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:31,840 people of the town has been infringed 1605 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,880 upon and changed and limited in 1606 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,719 different ways. 1607 01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:38,719 Tonight, I'm listening to you talk about 1608 01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:41,840 that and the admission that yeah, the 1609 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,639 system of the open meeting hasn't been 1610 01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:47,679 exactly right. Well, okay. And it's been 1611 01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:49,760 carried on that way for seemingly a very 1612 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,520 long time. 1613 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,400 But so far, all I've heard is smoke in 1614 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,199 the wind. I hear, "Yeah, we need to 1615 01:27:57,199 --> 01:27:59,040 change it. Yeah, we need to change it." 1616 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,800 Well, I can tell my wife that when she 1617 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,800 has ideas about what to do around the 1618 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,199 house, but that doesn't get the job 1619 01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:09,520 done. Commitment gets the job done. 1620 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,679 Saying there's going to be action taken 1621 01:28:11,679 --> 01:28:14,159 and it's going to be done gets the job 1622 01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:16,880 done. That's a confirmation to us the 1623 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,480 people you're going to do something 1624 01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:21,360 about it and not just talk about. 1625 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,000 So if you want to get something done, 1626 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,159 commit to it and get it done. Don't just 1627 01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:28,880 tell it. Okay. Thank you. 1628 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,310 >> Thank you. 1629 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:44,470 Anybody else on this? 1630 01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:49,350 » State your name and address, please. 1631 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,679 » Good evening. I'm Susan Jacobus. I live 1632 01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:54,080 at 1805 Northeast Street here in 1633 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,159 Fremont. I've lived here for 10 years. 1634 01:28:58,159 --> 01:29:01,679 I was one of three including Glenn Ellis 1635 01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:05,120 and Linda Mlan that pushed this forward 1636 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,719 with the full support of our city 1637 01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:10,560 council at the time. It was vetted and 1638 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,639 beat up again and again through our 1639 01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:16,159 attorneys draft and north. 1640 01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:20,320 Mark Enbach lent his expertise on it and 1641 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,239 this started to come about because there 1642 01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:24,560 was restrictions. There was a lot of 1643 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,880 foregoing of the three reading rule 1644 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,719 which I see has ended. But my concern is 1645 01:29:30,719 --> 01:29:34,960 removing this is also going to continue 1646 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,159 to remove the ability for the public to 1647 01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:40,880 comment or to reach out to you. I would 1648 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,639 agree there's often been times that the 1649 01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:46,480 derogatory comments directed towards 1650 01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:48,000 councilmen, 1651 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,639 council women, mayor as well as 1652 01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:54,320 administrative staff is unwarranted. 1653 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,920 It gets petty and then having been in 1654 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,560 the seat that you are, your ears start 1655 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,910 to close and I understand that. 1656 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,760 But it has not always been supported by 1657 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,639 all of you to have open comment nor was 1658 01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:13,040 it all always allowed to have the 1659 01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,679 citizens right to speak and I speak from 1660 01:30:15,679 --> 01:30:19,120 personal issue. I was attempted to be 1661 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,040 taken to task during executive session 1662 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,800 because I spoke at a planning commission 1663 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,000 meeting as a citizen and identified 1664 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,280 myself as such because I was against 1665 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,080 development of a commercial quick shop 1666 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,000 style or 7-Eleven style gas station 1667 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,400 at the area right across from the Lucen 1668 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,920 church 1669 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,280 off military there by the swimming pool. 1670 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,679 And I I believe Mr. remembers the letter 1671 01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:47,840 that he wrote to his planning commission 1672 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,320 to have me removed and to have the mayor 1673 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,560 have me removed as councilman. I was 1674 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,600 then taken into an executive session and 1675 01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,239 I there was an attempt to quash. I had 1676 01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:00,639 already reached out to an independent 1677 01:31:00,639 --> 01:31:02,719 attorney 1678 01:31:02,719 --> 01:31:05,440 and was advised to stand my ground. So I 1679 01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:09,120 refused to stay in an executive session 1680 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,480 in order to be ostracized or to remove 1681 01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:16,000 which neither it did happen. 1682 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,080 There was multiple complaints from me to 1683 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,000 the attorney general for issues 1684 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,239 concerning the open meeting act that 1685 01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:25,199 also helped push this forward. 1686 01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:27,440 It didn't necessarily cure all of them, 1687 01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:29,280 but it solved some of the issues we were 1688 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,080 having. sidebar discussions between the 1689 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,560 mayor and the city administrator at the 1690 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,920 time and decisions being made, 1691 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,639 comments and decisions being made out in 1692 01:31:40,639 --> 01:31:43,920 the open between um councilmen. 1693 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,440 Those discussions are supposed to be 1694 01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:48,000 public and you guys do behave better 1695 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,520 than our row did at first, 1696 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,920 but it still happens. Those sidebar 1697 01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,719 discussions are not intended to make 1698 01:31:56,719 --> 01:31:59,040 decisions or to gather enough votes so 1699 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,960 you have the guts to bring it to the 1700 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,600 table or the platform. 1701 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,120 And the reason why this was pushed 1702 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:09,360 forward and by the way was approved 8 to 1703 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,000 zero. We had the full support and we 1704 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,480 also had full legal support at the time 1705 01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:16,880 and that hasn't changed. You're not 1706 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,320 making policy DNA's meeting when there's 1707 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,639 a open public comment period. you're not 1708 01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:24,880 making policy. You may be given 1709 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,280 something to think about and perhaps 1710 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,600 maybe down the line it would warrant one 1711 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,840 of you, any of you to respond back to 1712 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,440 the citizen who stated the complaint. 1713 01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:35,120 But that doesn't always happen. In fact, 1714 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,320 it seldom happens. 1715 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,080 It was the intent of the open 1716 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,960 public comment to either have something 1717 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,800 added to an agenda in a future date if 1718 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,960 it warranted or to have city staff 1719 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,880 whether it's street department, utility 1720 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,400 department, parks department, whatever 1721 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,639 it may be, address the issue if there 1722 01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:56,880 was any issue of concern, but to bring 1723 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,800 it to the table for a full discussion at 1724 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,920 city council level if needed. 1725 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,840 And that doesn't typically happen, does 1726 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,080 it? 1727 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,040 I totally would not agree. I would be 1728 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,679 totally against removing public comment. 1729 01:33:11,679 --> 01:33:14,480 Period. I think you need to have an open 1730 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,320 conversation and if it has to be 1731 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:17,920 included as part of your meeting agenda 1732 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,440 and nobody shows up, then move on with 1733 01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:23,840 your meeting. Very simple solution. But 1734 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,000 as far as the opens meeting act, you've 1735 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,080 been in complian with it all along. 1736 01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,400 There's not been an issue. 1737 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,400 You don't like it from the derogatory 1738 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,480 comments. you have the outline of 1739 01:33:34,480 --> 01:33:37,679 behavior that's required at a meeting 1740 01:33:37,679 --> 01:33:39,679 and also during a public comment period 1741 01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:42,159 enforce it. 1742 01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:44,000 Ask people to shut it down or shut the 1743 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,600 mic off. They start to get derogatory. 1744 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,639 You have all been victim or have been 1745 01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:52,480 witnessed to some of the derogatory 1746 01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:53,760 comments that happened when I was on 1747 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,560 council. It was way out of line. Was it 1748 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,719 controlled? No. Should it have been? 1749 01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:00,800 Yes. Should it be with you at your level 1750 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,400 at your seats? Yes, it [clears throat] 1751 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,719 should. But please do not remove this. 1752 01:34:04,719 --> 01:34:07,199 Just enhance it if you Thank you. 1753 01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:16,550 >> Thank you. 1754 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,610 » State your name and address. 1755 01:34:18,610 --> 01:34:20,000 [clears throat] 1756 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,280 Steve Ray, 1445 North Irving. 1757 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,840 Well, had different comments kind of 1758 01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,400 lined up, but 1759 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,960 the agenda was kind of misleading. You 1760 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,040 said eliminate. You got a lot of people 1761 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:34,880 here thought you just going to vote get 1762 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,280 rid of it all together and that should 1763 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,040 have never sent that kind of signal out. 1764 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,719 Really 1765 01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:42,400 should have had you want to say 1766 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:43,679 eliminate. You should have said we're 1767 01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:45,280 going to have options or we're going to 1768 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,920 try and do something. 1769 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,679 I think that created a lot of problem 1770 01:34:51,679 --> 01:34:53,840 right there. 1771 01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:58,400 Uh, I've been reading the agenda, the 1772 01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,600 statutes for a m open meeting. I'm not 1773 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,960 sure you guys are in violation of it 1774 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,080 because you don't discuss. We don't 1775 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,560 discuss. We just bring something forward 1776 01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,159 and talk. You don't take any action now. 1777 01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:15,679 Most of the time there's nothing brought 1778 01:35:15,679 --> 01:35:17,280 up in the meeting that you take action 1779 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,040 on later. it. It's just a way for people 1780 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,600 to come and bring something up. And I 1781 01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,679 wouldn't want to see it happen be put on 1782 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:30,080 the agenda. If you go to where you have 1783 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,520 it as part of your regular meeting, put 1784 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,679 it right on the agenda because there 1785 01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:37,600 might be something come up today that oh 1786 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,120 yeah, I should bring that up at the 1787 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,600 meeting. What's going to be my 1788 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,560 alternative? I mean, you got to have it 1789 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,719 in the week before. Well, it comes up 1790 01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:48,400 today. how are you going to speak to it? 1791 01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,400 And it might be over with in a day or 1792 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,840 so. So, you you really can't put that 1793 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,320 down and have it on the agenda 1794 01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,880 beforehand like your agenda for all your 1795 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:05,600 business. And u I know that I just don't 1796 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,520 know if you've been in violation really. 1797 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,440 And I do know the law firms that we have 1798 01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:11,440 now, they've publicly in the meetings 1799 01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:13,600 have said they would do away with public 1800 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:17,440 comment altogether. So, it's kind of a, 1801 01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:20,639 you know, another way to say, they did 1802 01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:22,320 say that we need to do something 1803 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,960 different. Well, if we do something 1804 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:26,960 different, I don't think it needs to be 1805 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,800 something where you have to put 1806 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,120 something in the agenda to have it 1807 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,120 spoken about so they everybody knows 1808 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,679 ahead of time. It should be an open mic 1809 01:36:35,679 --> 01:36:37,360 type thing because that's what it was 1810 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,639 for, just for people to come and speak 1811 01:36:40,639 --> 01:36:42,960 on something that's on their mind at the 1812 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,119 time, not well, let's see, the meeting's 1813 01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:46,800 coming up, so I better get something on 1814 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,760 the agenda so they can speak about it. 1815 01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,400 So, I'd encourage you to vote no to 1816 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,400 eliminate it and go back to the drawing 1817 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,400 board and try to come up with something. 1818 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,000 It sounds like some of the other cities 1819 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,560 have open mic and they haven't been a 1820 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,400 problem. Now, I don't know if we've had 1821 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,320 a problem with anybody challenging the 1822 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:08,310 way you do it now. 1823 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:19,750 Thank you. Anybody else on this? 1824 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,320 State your name and address, please. My 1825 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,639 name is Jean Schultz. I live at 2306 1826 01:37:24,639 --> 01:37:27,520 Jean Drive, Fremont. 1827 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,000 Well, here we go again. 1828 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,679 Adams and Sullivan attorneys are 1829 01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:34,400 attempting deni to deny Fremont citizens 1830 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:37,280 of their ability to give public comments 1831 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,119 during the last scheduled council 1832 01:37:39,119 --> 01:37:41,679 meeting of the month by making it more 1833 01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:45,199 difficult than it needs to be. 1834 01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:47,440 Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in 1835 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,320 the Open Meetings Act requiring that 1836 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:54,000 topics to be discussed be included in 1837 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,400 reference to notices for public comment 1838 01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,960 periods, as was stated in the staff 1839 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,360 report. 1840 01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,920 There is another solution than the one 1841 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,679 proposed by Adams and Sullivan 1842 01:38:05,679 --> 01:38:09,280 attorneys. You don't have to look far. 1843 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,280 Just follow the format of the Dodge 1844 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,560 County Board of Supervisors. They have 1845 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,040 public comments positioned before their 1846 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,440 public hearings on all of their 1847 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:22,880 published agendas. 1848 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,760 Just add an agenda item that asks the 1849 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,280 question. 1850 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,600 Any business brought by the public or 1851 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,159 discussion from the public. There you 1852 01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:35,760 go. No must, no fuss. 1853 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,080 But you may want to use that agenda item 1854 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,400 only on the last meeting of the month 1855 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,719 like we do now. 1856 01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:45,040 if it's helpful. Dodge County also has 1857 01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,600 an agenda item that says any emergency 1858 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:51,199 items to the agenda. 1859 01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:53,440 In closing, 1860 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:55,440 citizens should not have to jump through 1861 01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:59,199 hoops like a trained circus seal to 1862 01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:01,760 speak at a public comment period. This 1863 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,920 is America. 1864 01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:07,600 We recently celebrated Independence Day. 1865 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,600 It commemorates the passage of the 1866 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,000 Declaration of Independence by the 1867 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:17,360 Continental Congress on July 4th, 1776. 1868 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,320 We are still in the midst of celebrating 1869 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,920 250 years as a nation. 1870 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,239 Our Constitution defines the goals and 1871 01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:28,320 framework of the government. But they 1872 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,880 weren't done there. Our founders added 1873 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,800 the Bill of Rights ratified in 1791 1874 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,199 that puts limits on government 1875 01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:40,400 overreach. 10 amendments, the first of 1876 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:44,239 which includes freedom of speech. 1877 01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:46,719 I'm anxious to observe which of you will 1878 01:39:46,719 --> 01:39:49,760 be celebrating tonight on the side of 1879 01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,719 free speech for Fremont citizens when 1880 01:39:52,719 --> 01:39:57,280 you vote no on ordinance 5755. 1881 01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,760 And of course watching which of you will 1882 01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:04,480 be the party poopers voting yes. 5755 1883 01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:08,239 is not a good solution. Thank you. 1884 01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:10,320 >> Thank you. 1885 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:16,629 Anybody else on this? 1886 01:40:16,639 --> 01:40:19,040 » State your name and address please. 1887 01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,639 >> My name is Scott Thomas 2403 Estus Lane 1888 01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:25,280 Fremont Nebraska. I'm a candidate in the 1889 01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:29,679 first ward city council right now. Uh 1890 01:40:29,679 --> 01:40:31,600 man, I'm grateful. I just want to say 1891 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,440 that first. I'm grateful for all the 1892 01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:35,520 people in this room and all the people 1893 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,560 that got up and spoke. People that take 1894 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,199 their country to heart, take their 1895 01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:43,440 duties and responsibilities as Americans 1896 01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:46,880 to heart. Don't take that 1897 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,719 uh 1898 01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:51,040 that birthight for granted. I appreciate 1899 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:52,480 that. I appreciate everybody in this 1900 01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:53,920 room. I appreciate you guys for your 1901 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,920 service. Seriously. Uh, 1902 01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:02,320 but I am the director for the US 1903 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,400 Institute of Diplomacy and Human Rights 1904 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,400 for the region of Nebraska. And we don't 1905 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:07,840 have an Iowa director. We don't have a 1906 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,040 Kansas director. We don't have a 1907 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:10,480 Missouri director. So, I handle those 1908 01:41:10,480 --> 01:41:14,480 regions, too. Um, our AG is publicly 1909 01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:15,679 picking fights with Trump's 1910 01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:17,199 administration right now. We want to 1911 01:41:17,199 --> 01:41:19,920 hang my hat on necessarily all the 1912 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,560 advice that you get from killers. 1913 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,360 Uh, and we've heard a lot of mentions of 1914 01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:26,880 the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, 1915 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,119 particularly the First Amendment. So, I 1916 01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:30,639 want to give you guys an example of 1917 01:41:30,639 --> 01:41:32,800 something that would not be on the 1918 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,440 agenda because everything that's not on 1919 01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:37,040 the agenda, you know, these are outlier 1920 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:38,480 issues and how would you know to put 1921 01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:41,600 something on there if it's if it's not 1922 01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,800 on there if it's not your issue? So, 1923 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,920 um, one of my jobs necessarily is making 1924 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,960 sure that people have access to physical 1925 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,480 documents 1926 01:41:52,480 --> 01:41:55,440 that represent your rights here in this 1927 01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:58,480 country. And so, the declaration, not 1928 01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:00,800 just not just the declaration, but the 1929 01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,639 rights of man, also very historical 1930 01:42:02,639 --> 01:42:04,480 documents that go all the way back to 1931 01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:07,119 Carta. Uh, 1932 01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:09,360 and 1933 01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,719 I tried to inquire into a booth at the 1934 01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:15,119 John C. Fremont days where we could pass 1935 01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:16,880 copies of the Constitution because I 1936 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:18,800 think that people are right. One of the 1937 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,000 reasons that we have some of the 1938 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,119 problems that we have in this country is 1939 01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:22,159 because people don't make it their 1940 01:42:22,159 --> 01:42:23,840 business to know what it means to be an 1941 01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,199 American or what your duties and 1942 01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:27,679 responsibilities are to this country or 1943 01:42:27,679 --> 01:42:29,600 what those amendments mean or what these 1944 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,080 men fought and died for that built the 1945 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,960 country. And so I think that we should 1946 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:36,560 pass it out. I think we should read it. 1947 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:37,679 I think we should have it in our 1948 01:42:37,679 --> 01:42:39,520 schools. I think we should hang it on 1949 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,280 the walls. 1950 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,199 And I I called and I said, "What if I 1951 01:42:43,199 --> 01:42:45,040 just want to pass out copies of the 1952 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,239 Constitution?" I didn't want to set a 1953 01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:47,520 high bar. What if we just want to pass 1954 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,280 out free copies of the Constitution to 1955 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,760 the public? And I was told, "You are not 1956 01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,159 allowed to bring the Constitution to our 1957 01:42:54,159 --> 01:42:57,280 event. We will have you arrested." 1958 01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,239 And so I'm an American. So I went to the 1959 01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:02,080 edge of their event, passed out the 1960 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,040 Constitution to all my fellow Americans. 1961 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,119 So they went to an officer. He looked 1962 01:43:07,119 --> 01:43:09,760 like that Jensen guy and they asked him 1963 01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,639 to arrest me and he told them no. Which 1964 01:43:12,639 --> 01:43:14,320 might be why he made sergeant if it's 1965 01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,920 the same guy. Hey, I'm telling you, man. 1966 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,520 Everybody doesn't think about this 1967 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,920 stuff, but I don't want these people in 1968 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,639 this room right now who I just said took 1969 01:43:24,639 --> 01:43:28,480 the due diligence to come up here and make it their duty to defend their 1970 01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:30,080 country and their birthright as American 1971 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,800 citizens. I don't want to make them put 1972 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,760 my kids to trade school or give them 1973 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,520 money to start businesses once they 1974 01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,400 graduate. But if you arrest me for 1975 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,320 passing out the Constitution in the city 1976 01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:43,840 where I live in the United States of 1977 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,719 America, I would sue everybody on this 1978 01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:49,360 council personally except my councilman 1979 01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:50,400 because I know he wouldn't have been 1980 01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,960 party in that. But whoever made that 1981 01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,199 contract with John Fremont days, you 1982 01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:56,960 guys should vet people a little bit more 1983 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:00,159 thoroughly what kind of beliefs they 1984 01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:03,360 bring when they broker alliances and 1985 01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,440 contracts to do business with the people 1986 01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:07,760 of the city of Fremont. 1987 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:09,679 Thank you all for your attention. Any 1988 01:44:09,679 --> 01:44:11,360 kind of questions you guys have, I'd be 1989 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,600 happy to answer them. I see the clerk is 1990 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,159 looking very confused right now. This is 1991 01:44:16,159 --> 01:44:19,360 the first you've heard of any of this. 1992 01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,760 Okay, fair enough. I appreciate you guys 1993 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:26,149 time. 1994 01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:34,629 Anybody else on this? 1995 01:44:34,639 --> 01:44:36,880 State your name and address, please. 1996 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,520 Roger Brimmerman, 921 North Clarson 1997 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:43,760 Street, lifelong resident of Fremont. 1998 01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:48,080 And um you know, my dad was alive and we 1999 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,040 used to get full tribune. 2000 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,400 He used to complain about a lot of 2001 01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,960 things that the city council did. I have 2002 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,159 said or I I I have to say that we've 2003 01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:00,880 come a long ways from the 60s and 70s on 2004 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,719 how we handled meetings and and 2005 01:45:02,719 --> 01:45:05,600 businesses and even the 80s, but I don't 2006 01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,080 think we've gone far enough. 2007 01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,440 And you need to vote no on this. You 2008 01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:14,880 really need to look at your option, you 2009 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,199 know, better options doing this during a 2010 01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:19,199 city council meeting and not a half hour 2011 01:45:19,199 --> 01:45:21,440 before on the fourth Tuesday that 2012 01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:24,080 everybody has to wrangle around and 2013 01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,480 everything. You also have another 2014 01:45:26,480 --> 01:45:29,440 audience that's at your deficit and that 2015 01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:31,040 is social media and that's what brought 2016 01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:32,960 me here tonight 2017 01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,320 because in the two posts that I read and 2018 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,960 had responses they were commenting on 2019 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,280 the eliminating the open public comment 2020 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:48,000 period and that's where it ended not to comply with the open meetings act. 2021 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,639 So your word smithing or how you do 2022 01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:54,000 things is very very important. Public 2023 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,679 perception right now is not very good. 2024 01:45:57,679 --> 01:46:01,040 Especially with our younger citizens of 2025 01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,119 this city, 2026 01:46:03,119 --> 01:46:04,800 you should see all the comments on the 2027 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,440 utilities rate hike. 2028 01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:10,480 It's not good. People are not happy with 2029 01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:12,880 that. And I understand as running 2030 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,280 businesses in this town or or being a 2031 01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,080 part of managing organizations, you do 2032 01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,960 have to ask for a little bit more to do 2033 01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,880 a little bit more. But I really would 2034 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,040 encourage you first of all to vote no on 2035 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,320 this. Second of all to really really 2036 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,520 think about your perception and you 2037 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,440 can't rely on the Tribune. I used to 2038 01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:36,880 take it when it was a newspaper and it 2039 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:40,000 went online and I did that and I thought 2040 01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,639 I' I've got better things to, you know, 2041 01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:45,440 and I and I rely on social media. But 2042 01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:49,119 now I found out that coming here based 2043 01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:52,560 on what I read was kind of a falsehood 2044 01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:56,000 in a way too. So you need to find other 2045 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,760 ways to publicize things to the media. 2046 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,159 We are in the 21st century. We are 2047 01:47:02,159 --> 01:47:04,880 digital. I know you can go on the city 2048 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:08,000 website and get all the past agendas and 2049 01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,119 all the minutes and all that, but people 2050 01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:14,239 that's work and people don't want to do 2051 01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:16,639 that kind of research work. You know, 2052 01:47:16,639 --> 01:47:18,320 they just they want it put right in 2053 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,560 front of them. So, I don't know as a 2054 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,400 governing body what you can do, but you 2055 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,480 really really I encourage you to really 2056 01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:27,199 start thinking about this because it's 2057 01:47:27,199 --> 01:47:29,280 issues like this and this isn't going to 2058 01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,719 be the first issue. There's 2059 01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:34,719 living here my whole life and a sixth 2060 01:47:34,719 --> 01:47:38,239 generation person of this county. 2061 01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:40,000 This isn't the first issue and it won't 2062 01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:43,840 be the last, but we improvement could 2063 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,080 certainly certainly take place. Thank 2064 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:46,719 you. 2065 01:47:46,719 --> 01:47:49,679 >> Thank you. 2066 01:47:49,679 --> 01:47:52,880 Anybody else on this? 2067 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,520 I'll close the public comment period. 2068 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,560 Coming back to council. Mayor, if I may 2069 01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,800 just give a brief uh followup to my 2070 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:01,600 comments. 2071 01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:02,400 >> Go ahead. 2072 01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:05,280 >> The concern here is if a member of a 2073 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,440 complaint about an action in district 2074 01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,360 court, then we'd be dealing with strict 2075 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,040 statutory interpretation. There aren't 2076 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,560 any cases on this because there hasn't 2077 01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,320 been an action brought before. I don't 2078 01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,639 want our city to be the test case. But 2079 01:48:16,639 --> 01:48:18,719 under the open meetings act, a meeting 2080 01:48:18,719 --> 01:48:20,800 is either or four things. A briefing, 2081 01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,080 which I think this constitutes a 2082 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,920 briefing, any public comment, discussion 2083 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,000 of public business. I think anyone who's 2084 01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,440 married has had a discussion where only 2085 01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:30,000 one site said something formation of 2086 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,239 tenative policy or the taking of action 2087 01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:35,520 of body public body. So there's at least 2088 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,520 two matters in there where public 2089 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,199 comment would constitute would fit into 2090 01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:40,320 the definition of a meeting. And 2091 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,719 therefore the matters at the meeting 2092 01:48:42,719 --> 01:48:44,159 that will be discussed need to be 2093 01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:46,080 publicized to the public. And I think 2094 01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:47,760 tonight is a great example when we put 2095 01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,679 items on the agenda that the public 2096 01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:51,199 cares about they'll come here and speak 2097 01:48:51,199 --> 01:48:53,199 about it. So, I just want the council to 2098 01:48:53,199 --> 01:48:54,719 know that if this is based strictly on 2099 01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:56,639 statutory interpretation, I'm not 2100 01:48:56,639 --> 01:48:58,000 comfortable relying solely on the 2101 01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,600 disposition of the attorney general from 2102 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,920 a complaint that was filed in 2018. It 2103 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,840 didn't address all the issues that we're 2104 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:11,990 talking. 2105 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,719 » Yeah, please. 2106 01:49:14,719 --> 01:49:18,239 Is that all you have left? 2107 01:49:18,239 --> 01:49:20,960 >> All right, Councilman her. Thank you, 2108 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,920 mayor. Um I I want to clear up one um 2109 01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,080 misunderstanding in the meeting tonight. 2110 01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:30,000 Um someone said that we removed items 2111 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:34,400 from the agenda and and that is not the 2112 01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,119 case. We did remove three items from the 2113 01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:39,280 consent agenda and the consent agenda 2114 01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,199 and I know this is probably review for 2115 01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:42,560 many of you, but I'm just going to say 2116 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:46,320 it anyways. Consent agenda are routine 2117 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,400 items considered routine. We don't need 2118 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,239 to discuss every one of them. So we vote 2119 01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:52,320 on them as a block without discussion. 2120 01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,679 Some of those items you as citizens, 2121 01:49:55,679 --> 01:49:58,560 council members, the mayor, clerk, staff 2122 01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,800 can request they be removed so we can 2123 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,440 discuss them and then we can vote on. 2124 01:50:03,440 --> 01:50:06,000 Three of those were done tonight. We 2125 01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,320 discussed them. We voted. Nothing was 2126 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,080 removed from the agenda. It was 2127 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,239 repositioned from the consent agenda to 2128 01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:14,080 the main pain main agenda. So we can 2129 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:15,920 discuss them. So I just want to make 2130 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,480 sure that everybody understands that. 2131 01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:20,639 The other one is um and maybe I'm a 2132 01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:22,560 little premature here because I see a 2133 01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,400 list of other council members that want 2134 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,719 to speak. I do have a recommended 2135 01:50:26,719 --> 01:50:31,119 amendment for tonight. Um I I I have 2136 01:50:31,119 --> 01:50:33,040 been reading myself and I do believe 2137 01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:37,360 that I have read a couple of um um newer 2138 01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:41,189 um 2139 01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:43,920 articles and etc that have expressed 2140 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,880 concern about similar formats to what 2141 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:48,960 we've been doing and that they might be 2142 01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,440 violating the opens meeting act. my 2143 01:50:51,440 --> 01:50:53,760 amendment to this because I do believe 2144 01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,639 if we are in violation, we sure should 2145 01:50:56,639 --> 01:50:59,280 correct it. And my amendment hopefully 2146 01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,000 will do that and preserve the parts we 2147 01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,280 like and get it into the part that or 2148 01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,920 get it into compliance so that it would 2149 01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,520 be a little bit harder for someone to 2150 01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,679 come and beat us up legally, I guess. 2151 01:51:11,679 --> 01:51:14,080 So, I can do that now or I can wait 2152 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,840 until everybody else had a chance to 2153 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,199 talk. 2154 01:51:17,199 --> 01:51:19,679 >> What would you do? Um, what I would 2155 01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:23,040 propose for the amendment to 5755 2156 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:28,239 is that we modify FMC2-103 2157 01:51:28,239 --> 01:51:30,159 to move the public comment period to 2158 01:51:30,159 --> 01:51:32,560 begin after the regular meeting is 2159 01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,960 called to order and its placement would 2160 01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,000 be after the consent agenda. 2161 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,599 It would have all the features that 2162 01:51:39,599 --> 01:51:42,639 currently exist. 2163 01:51:42,639 --> 01:51:44,480 Public can come in and talk about what's 2164 01:51:44,480 --> 01:51:46,480 on their mind. they don't have to call 2165 01:51:46,480 --> 01:51:48,800 in ahead of time and then what they 2166 01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,719 would be able and we would not be able 2167 01:51:50,719 --> 01:51:52,639 to like we can't now we would not be 2168 01:51:52,639 --> 01:51:54,960 able to engage because then it becomes 2169 01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,920 business and if we're not able to engage 2170 01:51:57,920 --> 01:51:59,840 it's a listening session I don't even 2171 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:01,119 care if you change it and call it a 2172 01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:03,760 listening session um you can call it 2173 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:05,280 whatever you want some of the other 2174 01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,119 count cities are calling it different 2175 01:52:07,119 --> 01:52:10,239 things um I like to keep it simple 2176 01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:12,400 comments from the floor public comments 2177 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,239 whatever 2178 01:52:14,239 --> 01:52:17,920 and and make it a regular agenda item 2179 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,679 subject to all the same rules that now 2180 01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:21,760 apply to our current public comment 2181 01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,639 period. And then um we keep it on the 2182 01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:27,280 last Tuesday of each month. 2183 01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,040 And I think that would be a very simple 2184 01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:33,040 amendment to this. We would take care of 2185 01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:35,440 our city attorney's concern. I think at 2186 01:52:35,440 --> 01:52:37,520 least the main point of it and that is 2187 01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,960 that it's outside of the official 2188 01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,960 meeting and it is um it comes now after 2189 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,719 we've called the official meeting to 2190 01:52:46,719 --> 01:52:49,119 order. It's going to fall after the the 2191 01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:52,639 um the um consent agenda items and then 2192 01:52:52,639 --> 01:52:55,679 we can sit and listen to folks talk 2193 01:52:55,679 --> 01:52:58,639 about what's on their mind. And I do 2194 01:52:58,639 --> 01:53:00,639 believe that it has and I think one of 2195 01:53:00,639 --> 01:53:03,840 the speakers brought this up. I I 2196 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:05,280 thought about the fact that if we do 2197 01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,920 that, it does have kind of a benefit 2198 01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,560 that if there's nobody here to talk, 2199 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:11,920 we're just going to move on. We're not 2200 01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,239 going to sit here for 30 minutes um 2201 01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:16,000 waiting on that to occur. And if there 2202 01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,000 are people, we would still cap it at 30 2203 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,000 minutes so that we can get on with the 2204 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:21,520 business of people and we wouldn't be 2205 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:25,040 here um an exorbitant amount of time. So 2206 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,040 that's my amendment. I would recommend 2207 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,719 that. I would move that we make that 2208 01:53:28,719 --> 01:53:30,400 amendment and I would hope someone could 2209 01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:37,430 support that. 2210 01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:40,400 Councilwoman Ganon, 2211 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,639 >> I was going to speak, but I also want to 2212 01:53:42,639 --> 01:53:44,880 sec I will second that because that's 2213 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,199 what I found in our in my surveys as 2214 01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:51,280 well and it it is included in several 2215 01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,239 other cities. It's part of the agenda 2216 01:53:54,239 --> 01:53:56,560 and each one handles it differently a 2217 01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,400 little bit and we can probably work out 2218 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,040 on the details as far as what to call 2219 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:10,070 it. 2220 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:11,920 » Council member Horner, would you just 2221 01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:13,760 want to propose these general terms and 2222 01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,239 then I'll incorporate them into an 2223 01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:17,599 amended ordinance for the second 2224 01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:20,080 reading? 2225 01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,480 No, we just vote on the amendment then 2226 01:54:22,480 --> 01:54:23,840 rather than typing it up now. 2227 01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:28,310 >> Me, too. Yes, absolutely. 2228 01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,599 » All right. So, I have a motion and a 2229 01:54:29,599 --> 01:54:31,920 second for amendment. 2230 01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,440 >> We have quick discussion 2231 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,119 >> and Paul, I was just going to come to 2232 01:54:35,119 --> 01:54:35,599 you. 2233 01:54:35,599 --> 01:54:38,560 >> No, just traditionally there's 2234 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,239 discussion following a second. Just like 2235 01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:42,239 to be clear. What does that do to 2236 01:54:42,239 --> 01:54:44,480 tonight's action? 2237 01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,719 Does that replace tonight's action? 2238 01:54:46,719 --> 01:54:48,400 Because what we're doing is tacking an 2239 01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:52,080 amendment on a proposal to modify. It 2240 01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:54,480 seems like that has the potential to get 2241 01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,639 muddy. 2242 01:54:56,639 --> 01:54:59,040 >> Well, we're not going to eliminate it. 2243 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:00,880 That's the modification is instead of 2244 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,560 eliminate it, we're going to modify it. 2245 01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,639 We're going to continue it, but we're 2246 01:55:04,639 --> 01:55:07,119 going to do it in the meeting instead of 2247 01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:09,280 out of the meeting. 2248 01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,470 basically 2249 01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,880 » and so the basic format public is still 2250 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,320 free to speak. Come and speak. 2251 01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:19,760 >> It stays the same. 2252 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:20,480 >> Thank you. 2253 01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,280 >> And I will be happy to work with anybody 2254 01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:24,800 else on the council to make sure we get 2255 01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:26,800 the leg language right. And we have two 2256 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,880 more readings that it's got to come 2257 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,280 before these guys to make sure we're 2258 01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:34,000 getting it right. Two more readings and 2259 01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,080 we will not fasttrack this one. 2260 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:40,550 >> I'd love to help. 2261 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:42,400 I have a motion. 2262 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:46,149 >> Go ahead. 2263 01:55:46,159 --> 01:55:47,440 » No, go ahead. It's been moved and 2264 01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:48,639 seconded. 2265 01:55:48,639 --> 01:55:50,719 >> Then you will be coming back as a 2266 01:55:50,719 --> 01:55:53,920 modified with that amendment. So then we 2267 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,239 would need to just for clarifications, I 2268 01:55:56,239 --> 01:55:58,480 know we've all been encouraged to say 2269 01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,679 no, we would in fact vote for this first 2270 01:56:01,679 --> 01:56:04,080 time and then at the second reading it 2271 01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,000 will be modified. 2272 01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,080 So what happens clarification? [snorts] 2273 01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:09,440 Correct. 2274 01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,440 >> What what would happen then to August 2275 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:15,109 public comment? 2276 01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:17,440 » Okay. So we're we're going to continue 2277 01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,199 the end of August. We'll do normal 2278 01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:21,599 public comment. Third reading. We'll 2279 01:56:21,599 --> 01:56:27,030 roll it back into the council agenda. 2280 01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,520 » Right. 2281 01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,199 Would it make any more sense to just 2282 01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:33,280 continue this item as opposed to holding 2283 01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,800 the first reading tonight? 2284 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,639 You want to Well, we have a motion on a 2285 01:56:38,639 --> 01:56:49,510 second. 2286 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,760 I have a motion and a second. Now you 2287 01:56:51,760 --> 01:57:02,709 have to cast your vote. 2288 01:57:02,719 --> 01:57:06,470 The motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor 2289 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,000 All right. Thank you. 2290 01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:27,270 Yep. 2291 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,800 » Well, we have to vote it as amended 2292 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:46,870 first, don't we? 2293 01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,360 Yes, we need a we need a motion for the 2294 01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:53,189 first reading as amended. 2295 01:57:53,199 --> 01:57:56,000 » Do I have that? 2296 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:56,960 Councilman Jensen, 2297 01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:58,800 >> I will make the motion to hold first 2298 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:02,560 reading war 5755 as amended. 2299 01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:03,920 >> Councilman Marsh, 2300 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:10,470 >> I'll second that. 2301 01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:15,030 » That motion carries 8 to zero. 2302 01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,199 Ordinance number 5755, an ordinance of 2303 01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:18,639 the city of Fremont, Nebraska, repealing 2304 01:58:18,639 --> 01:58:20,159 and replacing chapter 2, article 1 2305 01:58:20,159 --> 01:58:21,520 section of the Fremont Municipal Code 2306 01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:22,880 regarding open public comment periods 2307 01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:24,239 and formal council study sessions and 2308 01:58:24,239 --> 01:58:25,440 all other ordinances or parts of 2309 01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:26,639 ordinances in conflict with this 2310 01:58:26,639 --> 01:58:28,400 ordinance, providing for severability 2311 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:29,440 and providing when this ordinance shall 2312 01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:30,719 be in full force in effect first 2313 01:58:30,719 --> 01:58:34,149 reading. 2314 01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:41,430 » Thank you. 2315 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,800 Okay. On item number 21, resolution 2316 01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,480 2026-205 2317 01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:48,320 amending master fee schedule to support 2318 01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,280 changes to the ordinance 5749 approved 2319 01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:55,760 at the July 28 26th meeting 2320 01:58:55,760 --> 01:59:00,239 council members von Baron and Gano item. 2321 01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:02,239 >> Now this is just a followup to what we 2322 01:59:02,239 --> 01:59:04,080 approved at the last meeting as we were 2323 01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:05,599 working through the animal control 2324 01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:09,360 ordinances. Uh we've obviously times 2325 01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:12,320 change. Uh we've one of the things that 2326 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:16,320 we found is Fremont has proportionally 2327 01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:20,080 per population probably a larger animal 2328 01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,560 control challenge than most cities of 2329 01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,440 comparable size. And so we visited with 2330 01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:29,520 officer Steamer. She had a heavy hand in 2331 01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:32,400 the advice, a very good constructive 2332 01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,639 heavy hand in the advice, advising us 2333 01:59:34,639 --> 01:59:37,679 what she felt would be required to 2334 01:59:37,679 --> 01:59:39,760 change some behaviors to discourage, to 2335 01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:41,520 enable enforcement, that kind of thing. 2336 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,520 So that's what you see in front of you. 2337 01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,159 It's you can see what the uh fees have 2338 01:59:46,159 --> 01:59:48,080 been in the past. We added a couple of 2339 01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:52,000 new categories and tried to no modify 2340 01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:54,639 the system references so those were more 2341 01:59:54,639 --> 01:59:57,760 clear. So, it's fairly straightforward 2342 01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,080 matter. It's just an updated version of 2343 02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:07,189 fees and assessments for offenses. 2344 02:00:07,199 --> 02:00:08,880 » Okay, Councilman her. 2345 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,360 >> Um, thanks, Mayor. I have no questions 2346 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,280 really. Um, and I just want to thank 2347 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,679 Paul and Sally for the hard work and all 2348 02:00:15,679 --> 02:00:17,440 the other folks that who were part of 2349 02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:20,320 this. And um I I'm not good at the 2350 02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:21,679 Golden Globe stuff because I never 2351 02:00:21,679 --> 02:00:24,320 remember who all to thank. But um um you 2352 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,080 guys did a lot of work. We appreciate 2353 02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:28,320 it. My only comment is one word of 2354 02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:30,320 caution and I shared this with you guys 2355 02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:33,440 earlier. What's a colony? Um you know, 2356 02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:36,400 where does that definition begin? Um you 2357 02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:38,880 know, is it five, is it eight, you know, 2358 02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,760 etc. Um just a word of caution, that 2359 02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:44,719 could be an issue at some point in the 2360 02:00:44,719 --> 02:00:46,719 future I could see arising is what is a 2361 02:00:46,719 --> 02:00:48,000 colony? And I don't know how you get at 2362 02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,639 that, but we just have to be mindful of 2363 02:00:50,639 --> 02:00:53,199 that. 2364 02:00:53,199 --> 02:00:57,750 Well noted. 2365 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:02,070 » Any other questions? 2366 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,159 » Just a general answer to your question. 2367 02:01:04,159 --> 02:01:06,320 Fremont does have specific limits on 2368 02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:08,400 numbers of dogs and cats that can be 2369 02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:11,239 housed. And so if somebody's maybe 2370 02:01:11,239 --> 02:01:12,400 [clears throat] has a couple cats that 2371 02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,880 they're feeding on the back porch and 2372 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:16,960 they're over the limit, that may not be 2373 02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:20,480 a colony. Uh if they've got 15 or 20, 2374 02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,560 which is not uncommon, that becomes a 2375 02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:24,320 colony. So there's some officer 2376 02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:32,229 discretion involved. 2377 02:01:32,239 --> 02:01:46,229 I'll take uh comments from the public. 2378 02:01:46,239 --> 02:01:47,840 state your name and address. 2379 02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:51,280 >> Right, 1537 Brewer Drive. Um, I just 2380 02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:52,880 wanted to make sure that you guys 2381 02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:54,320 understand what you're doing here with 2382 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:58,400 this increase to the master fee 2383 02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:03,040 schedule. Um, so the colonies that are 2384 02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:06,320 in question, the cat colony that are in 2385 02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:10,560 question here, let's not forget that 2386 02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,520 most of the people that feed the stray 2387 02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:18,080 cats are ones that are lower income. 2388 02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,880 They have no no, you know, like 2389 02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:22,560 interaction really with the outside 2390 02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:25,119 world much except for those cats. And so 2391 02:02:25,119 --> 02:02:26,560 they're already low income. And now 2392 02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:28,239 we're going to raise not only are we 2393 02:02:28,239 --> 02:02:30,400 going to make them get a permit so that 2394 02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:33,119 you know where all the cats are when we 2395 02:02:33,119 --> 02:02:34,880 don't even have a program in place right 2396 02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:38,159 now to control the cats that we already 2397 02:02:38,159 --> 02:02:40,080 have and you guys are only seeing the 2398 02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:43,199 public only sees 20% of what is actually 2399 02:02:43,199 --> 02:02:46,320 out there. So the rest lives in you know 2400 02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:49,280 underground and all that stuff. So I 2401 02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:52,000 mean I really don't think that this is 2402 02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:54,480 the right option to go. The colony kept 2403 02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:56,080 caretaker permits should have never been 2404 02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:58,400 in place to begin with, but just keep in 2405 02:02:58,400 --> 02:02:59,920 mind that those guys, they're usually 2406 02:02:59,920 --> 02:03:01,920 the lower income people and now we're 2407 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,560 going to find them for trying to feed an 2408 02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:10,070 animal. It's not very nice. 2409 02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:10,239 If 2410 02:03:10,239 --> 02:03:12,560 >> I could just comment on that briefly. 2411 02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:13,040 >> Yes. 2412 02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:13,760 >> Respond to that. 2413 02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:14,800 >> We got another 2414 02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:21,589 >> Oh, I'm I'm sorry. Excuse me. 2415 02:03:21,599 --> 02:03:22,960 Having been here for a couple years, 2416 02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:24,800 might as well make it good. I'm Susan 2417 02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,280 Shikovas, 1805 North D Street here in 2418 02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:30,880 Fremont. Um, somebody please correct me 2419 02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:33,040 after I'm finished or whoever wants to 2420 02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:34,960 speak after, but there's no fee attached 2421 02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:38,159 to that. Um, some of us have then been 2422 02:03:38,159 --> 02:03:40,480 part of the spay and neuter release 2423 02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:45,760 program and have ear tipped cats and I I 2424 02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:47,440 can't control the raccoon that comes and 2425 02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:48,800 sleeps underneath the porch or the 2426 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:50,560 possums that kind of hibernate 2427 02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:52,480 underneath the other porch in somewhat 2428 02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:56,560 of a heated box. But um, a colony is 2429 02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:59,360 permitted and all the person has to do 2430 02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:02,480 is go get the permit. according to what 2431 02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:04,159 was printed in the agenda tonight. I'm 2432 02:04:04,159 --> 02:04:05,920 not aware that this any charge, but 2433 02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,080 again, please correct me if I'm wrong. 2434 02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,159 Thank you. 2435 02:04:10,159 --> 02:04:12,480 >> Thank you. 2436 02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:15,440 Anybody else on this? 2437 02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:17,520 >> Close the public comment. 2438 02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:19,360 >> Um, I would like to comment. 2439 02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:19,840 >> Please, 2440 02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:23,119 >> just uh because Susan Jacobus uh pointed 2441 02:04:23,119 --> 02:04:26,159 it out, the colony caretaker caretaker 2442 02:04:26,159 --> 02:04:29,599 permit fee was $150. That's the current 2443 02:04:29,599 --> 02:04:32,880 and we're recommending zero for the very 2444 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:35,679 same reasons that you brought up because 2445 02:04:35,679 --> 02:04:37,440 they care for those cats. They love 2446 02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:40,000 them. They provide food for them. So, 2447 02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:47,669 it's gone down to zero. 2448 02:04:47,679 --> 02:04:49,599 » Paul, did you have a comment? 2449 02:04:49,599 --> 02:04:51,199 >> And that's I think that's the point 2450 02:04:51,199 --> 02:04:52,880 because we didn't want to discourage 2451 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,280 people from it. The only penalty now 2452 02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:57,119 will be if that becomes a nuisance. the 2453 02:04:57,119 --> 02:04:58,800 first time it becomes a nuisance then 2454 02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,360 they do issue a permit and then it goes 2455 02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:04,480 from there. So that's 2456 02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,880 councilwoman is exactly right. The other 2457 02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:09,040 thing is we noticed uh last year we 2458 02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,040 brought a discussion item regarding 2459 02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:14,719 feral cat control and it is a problem in 2460 02:05:14,719 --> 02:05:18,000 some areas of Fremont. uh we realized 2461 02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,400 that we approved the concept but there 2462 02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:22,880 was no formal vote on the control 2463 02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:26,239 project or the formal control parameters 2464 02:05:26,239 --> 02:05:28,080 the things that would have to be done so 2465 02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,000 we will be bringing that to the next 2466 02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,719 meeting to formalize that asking your 2467 02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:36,320 support I will tell you it's changed 2468 02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:38,400 going into it I thought what in the 2469 02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:40,400 world we're staying and neutering cats 2470 02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:42,719 and then turning them back out makes no 2471 02:05:42,719 --> 02:05:45,040 sense once you think through it it's 2472 02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:46,960 worth doing So, we'll be bringing that 2473 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,040 to the next meeting. 2474 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:51,199 >> Thank you. 2475 02:05:51,199 --> 02:05:55,589 >> Any other discussion from councel? 2476 02:05:55,599 --> 02:06:04,709 » If not, I'll take a motion. 2477 02:06:04,719 --> 02:06:05,679 » Councilman Vaughn, 2478 02:06:05,679 --> 02:06:08,239 >> I'll make a motion to approve. 2479 02:06:08,239 --> 02:06:08,719 Councilman 2480 02:06:08,719 --> 02:06:16,310 >> Her, I'll second. 2481 02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:28,709 That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor. 2482 02:06:28,719 --> 02:06:30,320 » All right. Thank you. Item number 22, 2483 02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:32,639 ordinance 5756, amending the food and 2484 02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:36,239 beverage occupation tax. First reading. 2485 02:06:36,239 --> 02:06:37,280 Staff. 2486 02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:39,280 >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of 2487 02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:40,960 council. Jody Sanders, city 2488 02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:43,360 administrator. Um what you have before 2489 02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:45,199 you is the first reading of an ordinance 2490 02:06:45,199 --> 02:06:47,119 that would amend the uh food and 2491 02:06:47,119 --> 02:06:51,119 beverage occupation tax rate. Um 2492 02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:54,159 previously um it had been it when this 2493 02:06:54,159 --> 02:06:57,280 was first passed in 2015 the rate was 2494 02:06:57,280 --> 02:07:01,920 1.75 and that was established so that we 2495 02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:05,679 would not go over the $700,000 limit 2496 02:07:05,679 --> 02:07:08,239 that had been placed by uh the 2497 02:07:08,239 --> 02:07:10,079 legislature. 2498 02:07:10,079 --> 02:07:13,920 Um since that time we've had to bring 2499 02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:16,800 back to council requests to reduce it to 2500 02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:20,639 stay with underneath the 700,000 limit. 2501 02:07:20,639 --> 02:07:27,280 Um in 2025 uh the as part of uh kind of 2502 02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:29,760 an omnimous bill there was a section 2503 02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:33,440 that took out the um the lid on of 2504 02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:37,520 $700,000 on new occupation taxes. And so 2505 02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:40,880 without that lid in place, 2506 02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:45,360 um the the city could choose to raise 2507 02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:47,920 the rate back closer to where it was 2508 02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,360 originally. Um most communities that 2509 02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:54,800 have this are at least at a 1.5 if 2510 02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:58,320 Omaha's is actually at a 2.5 2511 02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:02,000 um tax rate. Um, one of the reasons why 2512 02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:04,239 we wanted to bring this uh to the 2513 02:08:04,239 --> 02:08:08,239 council for consideration is um we've 2514 02:08:08,239 --> 02:08:10,320 been visiting with uh council members 2515 02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:13,040 talking with them about the 2027 budget 2516 02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:16,639 and the deficit that we're in right 2517 02:08:16,639 --> 02:08:19,199 heading into 2027. 2518 02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:23,440 And we recognize that it's u not fair to 2519 02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:27,360 put the complete burden of of of 2520 02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:31,280 the cost of running the city on uh 2521 02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:33,199 property taxpayers 2522 02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:36,000 where a food and beverage tax is not 2523 02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:38,880 only paid by citizens, but it's paid by 2524 02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:42,159 anyone that is eating in our community. 2525 02:08:42,159 --> 02:08:45,040 Meaning the folks that come for um the 2526 02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:47,040 tournaments on the weekends and those 2527 02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:49,520 kinds of things. they're purchasing food 2528 02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:52,159 and um likely paying either they're 2529 02:08:52,159 --> 02:08:53,679 paying the tax or the restaurant is 2530 02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:56,880 paying the tax on their behalf. Um so it 2531 02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,199 kind of spreads the the burden a little 2532 02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:03,679 bit. Um as well as uh you know just 2533 02:09:03,679 --> 02:09:06,480 looking for ways so that we don't have 2534 02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:09,840 to have such reliance on property taxes 2535 02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,320 because in visiting with all of you 2536 02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:16,639 you've all expressed uh concern that we 2537 02:09:16,639 --> 02:09:18,480 don't 2538 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:20,960 tax people out of their homes. you know, 2539 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:24,079 the the city receives um a small portion 2540 02:09:24,079 --> 02:09:26,480 of the overall property tax levy of only 2541 02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:29,040 we only receive 16% of what's levied, 2542 02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,599 but still you were all clear you wanted 2543 02:09:31,599 --> 02:09:34,000 to do your part. This is one way that we 2544 02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:37,280 can get to the point where um perhaps we 2545 02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:41,520 won't have to go um quite so high on uh 2546 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:44,880 our property tax request um because we'd 2547 02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:47,040 be receiving uh the the revenue from 2548 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:50,639 this. We're currently at 1% and we are 2549 02:09:50,639 --> 02:09:52,400 collecting 2550 02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:56,239 slightly over $700,000. Now, 2551 02:09:56,239 --> 02:10:00,159 we have not been strictly enforcing it 2552 02:10:00,159 --> 02:10:02,960 uh the the tax because we really 2553 02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:06,239 shouldn't be collecting more than is uh 2554 02:10:06,239 --> 02:10:08,719 more than that $700,000 cap. That was 2555 02:10:08,719 --> 02:10:12,159 why we had not been um res, you know, 2556 02:10:12,159 --> 02:10:15,040 being very strict about our enforcement. 2557 02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:18,159 We have started the enforcement process. 2558 02:10:18,159 --> 02:10:20,560 Um the city staff has started the 2559 02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:23,360 enforcement process which will yes bring 2560 02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:26,480 in additional revenue but not to the 2561 02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:29,119 extent that if you change the uh tax 2562 02:10:29,119 --> 02:10:32,719 rate it would uh bring in at a bare 2563 02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:36,079 minimum we know $700,000. And that's 2564 02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:38,800 essentially $700,000 in property tax 2565 02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,360 relief. And that's why we felt being 2566 02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:43,199 good stewards of the public finances, 2567 02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:44,719 this was something that that we should 2568 02:10:44,719 --> 02:10:52,079 bring to your attention and um offer as your for your consideration tonight. 2569 02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:53,679 >> Questions from council. Councilman 2570 02:10:53,679 --> 02:10:55,199 Jensen. 2571 02:10:55,199 --> 02:10:57,440 >> Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to want 2572 02:10:57,440 --> 02:10:59,440 to touch on a couple things and yes, we 2573 02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:01,040 have all had these private meetings. We 2574 02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:04,079 all know what we're facing in 27 and as 2575 02:11:04,079 --> 02:11:06,639 you said this is part of 2576 02:11:06,639 --> 02:11:08,639 kind of spreading out the pain so 2577 02:11:08,639 --> 02:11:10,719 everybody gets gets a little taste of it 2578 02:11:10,719 --> 02:11:13,760 I guess. Uh my question was and you kind 2579 02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:16,320 of brought touched on that how uh how 2580 02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:19,119 compliant food trucks and been with this 2581 02:11:19,119 --> 02:11:22,000 tax and that and I was going to ask also 2582 02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:24,960 about the uh uh hotel rooms. I know 2583 02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:26,800 municipalities like to tax hotel rooms 2584 02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:27,840 because there ain't anybody that lives 2585 02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:30,400 here that's in them. 2586 02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:33,440 So we currently do tax hotel rooms. I 2587 02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:37,440 believe the rate is 4% isn't it Jen for 2588 02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:43,920 hotel tax. So we are receiving uh the benefit from those uh lodging taxes 2589 02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:47,760 as well. Um and the one of the one of 2590 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:50,239 the ways that we're bringing um 2591 02:11:50,239 --> 02:11:54,079 enforcement action is simply by having a 2592 02:11:54,079 --> 02:11:57,360 kind of a 2593 02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:59,280 cross matching 2594 02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:02,320 what we have for mobile food vendors 2595 02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:05,440 versus who's paying the tax because the 2596 02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:07,520 food the mobile food vendors are subject 2597 02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:10,400 to the tax as well. So, that's that's 2598 02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:12,000 one of the ways that we're reaching out 2599 02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,159 to folks and saying maybe you're not 2600 02:12:14,159 --> 02:12:19,520 aware, but you need to be collecting and uh remitting this pro this uh 2601 02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:23,350 occupation tax. 2602 02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:25,040 » Councilman Marsh, 2603 02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:26,719 >> so what you're saying is there's 2604 02:12:26,719 --> 02:12:28,480 restaurants out there probably that are 2605 02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:31,440 collecting it but not paying in, right? 2606 02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:33,920 >> Unfortunately, that's a possibility. Um, 2607 02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:36,159 we would, you know, if if anybody has 2608 02:12:36,159 --> 02:12:38,880 that suspicion, certainly please do let 2609 02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:43,360 us know. Um, I think that that, um, as 2610 02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:46,159 staff, I'm certainly paying much more 2611 02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:49,280 attention to the receipt that I get. Um, 2612 02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:51,360 one thing to note, you know, the the 2613 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,639 sales tax currently is at uh, should 2614 02:12:54,639 --> 02:12:58,639 show up on your receipt as 7%. That's uh 2615 02:12:58,639 --> 02:13:01,520 five and a half to the state and one and 2616 02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,320 a half percent to the city. And then the 2617 02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:07,440 occupation tax of 1% or um you know if 2618 02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:09,840 this is passed then it would be 2%. But 2619 02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:13,520 there's also the enhanced employment uh 2620 02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:17,520 tax that's on at the mall um for and but 2621 02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:21,440 that only applies to prepared food, 2622 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:27,840 right? Yes. As well. So that's where um 2623 02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:29,280 Are you sure? 2624 02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:31,679 >> Come on up, Jen. 2625 02:13:31,679 --> 02:13:35,679 >> Hey, Jen, why don't you come on up? 2626 02:13:35,679 --> 02:13:37,760 >> Thank you, Jen. 2627 02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:46,229 Nab, finance director. 2628 02:13:46,239 --> 02:13:47,840 » Honorable mayor, city council, Jennifer 2629 02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,079 Nab, finance director. So, the mall 2630 02:13:50,079 --> 02:13:55,040 occupation tax uh is for businesses out 2631 02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:56,800 at the mall and it it's it's on the 2632 02:13:56,800 --> 02:14:00,079 Dunham receipts. It's on shoe sensation, 2633 02:14:00,079 --> 02:14:02,960 it's on um also prepared foods, but 2634 02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:05,199 there are some items excluded. So, it's 2635 02:14:05,199 --> 02:14:07,119 not at the gas station, it's not on 2636 02:14:07,119 --> 02:14:10,960 groceries, it's not on foods um anything 2637 02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:13,040 coming out of a vending machine or like 2638 02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:15,199 a candy bar or whatever. So there are 2639 02:14:15,199 --> 02:14:18,880 it's not liquor um but the majority of 2640 02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:20,719 what's being sold out the mall is 2641 02:14:20,719 --> 02:14:24,239 subject to the mall occupation tax 2642 02:14:24,239 --> 02:14:25,760 according to the ordinance that was 2643 02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:29,669 passed. 2644 02:14:29,679 --> 02:14:32,079 » Do you have a number of what you think 2645 02:14:32,079 --> 02:14:34,239 that we're not getting? I mean with the 2646 02:14:34,239 --> 02:14:35,599 percentage going up obviously that's 2647 02:14:35,599 --> 02:14:37,199 pretty easy but as far as like how many 2648 02:14:37,199 --> 02:14:38,079 are not 2649 02:14:38,079 --> 02:14:41,040 >> number of as far as dollars but we did 2650 02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:45,280 compare um restaurant licenses with 2651 02:14:45,280 --> 02:14:47,119 who's paying food and beverage and I've 2652 02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:52,000 got um 17 businesses that are behind or 2653 02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:53,920 not paying and then we've also got a 2654 02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:56,239 number of mobile food vendors as well 2655 02:14:56,239 --> 02:14:58,880 that will be um you know we still need 2656 02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:03,119 to reach out and 2657 02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:06,079 But it's there's some 2658 02:15:06,079 --> 02:15:10,310 >> revenue. Yeah. Thank you. 2659 02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:12,320 » Uh Councilman her. 2660 02:15:12,320 --> 02:15:14,960 >> Uh thanks, Mayor. Um 2661 02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:16,719 you know, we talked already a little bit 2662 02:15:16,719 --> 02:15:19,840 about this and and um the one thing that 2663 02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:22,880 I would say is that if there are folks 2664 02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:25,599 collect tax and not turning it in, we 2665 02:15:25,599 --> 02:15:28,159 have to address that obviously pretty um 2666 02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:30,079 pretty swiftly and pretty decisively is 2667 02:15:30,079 --> 02:15:35,910 what I would hope. Thank you. 2668 02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:41,510 » Anybody else? 2669 02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:51,910 » Okay. Comment from public. 2670 02:15:51,920 --> 02:15:56,629 Please state your name and address. 2671 02:15:56,639 --> 02:15:58,079 » Good evening, mayor and members of the 2672 02:15:58,079 --> 02:16:00,719 council. My member, my name is Dylan 2673 02:16:00,719 --> 02:16:03,280 Martinez, residing at 1435 East 12th 2674 02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:05,920 Street here in Fremont. I am standing 2675 02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:08,800 before you or sitting tonight. I'm used 2676 02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:10,639 to standing from previous formats that 2677 02:16:10,639 --> 02:16:13,280 we've had. Um really do like how 2678 02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:15,280 everything has changed. Uh timer right 2679 02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,599 there in front of us. 2680 02:16:17,599 --> 02:16:19,840 But uh I'm sitting here tonight before 2681 02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:22,000 you to address the proposed 1% food and 2682 02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:24,480 beverage tax increase. And I urge you to 2683 02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:26,800 vote no. We need to look closely at the 2684 02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:28,480 economic environment our residents are 2685 02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:30,800 navigating right now. Inflation has 2686 02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:32,399 squeezed household dollars to record 2687 02:16:32,399 --> 02:16:34,399 levels and working families in Fremont 2688 02:16:34,399 --> 02:16:36,399 are watching every single dollar. Fast 2689 02:16:36,399 --> 02:16:38,319 food prices have already risen to what 2690 02:16:38,319 --> 02:16:41,040 sitdown restaurants used to cost. When 2691 02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:43,120 basic dining out has become a luxury for 2692 02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:46,240 the average family, adding another tax 2693 02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:47,760 on top of their check is not going to 2694 02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:50,080 spur economic growth. In fact, it'll 2695 02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:52,080 likely have the opposite effect. It'll 2696 02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:54,080 dissuade actual residents from eating 2697 02:16:54,080 --> 02:16:56,399 out directly, 2698 02:16:56,399 --> 02:16:58,319 hurting our local restaurant owners, 2699 02:16:58,319 --> 02:16:59,920 server staff, and small business 2700 02:16:59,920 --> 02:17:02,880 community. It may have an unended side 2701 02:17:02,880 --> 02:17:05,120 effect of spurring extra business when 2702 02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:07,519 we have people coming into town, but the 2703 02:17:07,519 --> 02:17:09,200 people that actually know about this 2704 02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:11,760 will likely just try to buy at the 2705 02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:13,920 grocery store and make the $200 that 2706 02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:16,240 they have, you know, last a week for a 2707 02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:18,880 family of four. Um, you know, that used 2708 02:17:18,880 --> 02:17:22,399 to be a thing. But, um, now to be fair, 2709 02:17:22,399 --> 02:17:24,800 I do want to acknowledge that Fremont 2710 02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:26,880 has seen some serious positive 2711 02:17:26,880 --> 02:17:28,399 development over the last few years. 2712 02:17:28,399 --> 02:17:30,160 That progress is welcome. But, recent 2713 02:17:30,160 --> 02:17:32,000 development does not erase or make up 2714 02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:33,840 for the nearly two decades of wasteful 2715 02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:35,599 spending, questionable deals, and 2716 02:17:35,599 --> 02:17:37,439 administrative mismanagement by past 2717 02:17:37,439 --> 02:17:40,399 position holders. Taxpayers are tied. 2718 02:17:40,399 --> 02:17:42,559 Taxpayers are tired of being treated as 2719 02:17:42,559 --> 02:17:44,479 a bottomless piggy bank every time the 2720 02:17:44,479 --> 02:17:46,719 city needs to cover a budget gap after 2721 02:17:46,719 --> 02:17:49,200 years of fiscal red flags. Fremont needs 2722 02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:50,880 to demonstrate that it can manage its 2723 02:17:50,880 --> 02:17:52,719 existing revenue responsibly before 2724 02:17:52,719 --> 02:17:54,399 reaching deeper into the pockets of its 2725 02:17:54,399 --> 02:17:56,319 citizens. 2726 02:17:56,319 --> 02:17:58,479 If this council is unwilling to vote no 2727 02:17:58,479 --> 02:18:00,160 outright tonight, then I ask you to at 2728 02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:03,040 least lessen listen to the community and 2729 02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:05,200 amend this proposal down to a quarter 2730 02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:06,960 percent or half percent or some 2731 02:18:06,960 --> 02:18:10,719 incremental raise up to the 2%. Cut it 2732 02:18:10,719 --> 02:18:12,479 back and make that smaller figure work. 2733 02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:14,000 Show the taxpayers that you are willing 2734 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,160 to compromise and exercise real fiscal 2735 02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:18,000 discipline. Fix internal spending 2736 02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:19,840 priorities, protect our local small 2737 02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:21,439 businesses, and do not place another 2738 02:18:21,439 --> 02:18:23,280 financial burden on the dining tables of 2739 02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:26,160 Fremont families. Alternatively, 2740 02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:28,000 if as I'm hearing on the comments 2741 02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:31,439 tonight that uh there seems to be issues 2742 02:18:31,439 --> 02:18:33,840 with enforcement and making sure that 2743 02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:35,439 these taxes are collected on a lot of 2744 02:18:35,439 --> 02:18:37,599 these business um food business owners, 2745 02:18:37,599 --> 02:18:39,439 which are a lot easier to get a food 2746 02:18:39,439 --> 02:18:41,840 business license, to get a truck, to do 2747 02:18:41,840 --> 02:18:43,840 a pop-up vendor on a corner and collect 2748 02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:45,679 every one of these taxes. Maybe 2749 02:18:45,679 --> 02:18:47,439 alternatively to this, we should look 2750 02:18:47,439 --> 02:18:51,040 into a tax on specifically alcoholic 2751 02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:52,800 beverages. We were talking tonight on 2752 02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:55,519 passing um you know renewing a lot of 2753 02:18:55,519 --> 02:18:58,000 these licenses. You know what's 1% onto 2754 02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:00,000 a bar for people going out and having a 2755 02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:02,559 pint? That's already $10. If they have 2756 02:19:02,559 --> 02:19:04,960 the money to go out to the bar, that's 2757 02:19:04,960 --> 02:19:07,679 way different than having the money to 2758 02:19:07,679 --> 02:19:09,840 go out to lunch on a break when you're 2759 02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:12,000 at work and you need a quick bite to eat 2760 02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:13,599 just to continue functioning from 2761 02:19:13,599 --> 02:19:16,639 day-to-day society. You know, obviously 2762 02:19:16,639 --> 02:19:19,920 fast food is a convenience. Um, but 2763 02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:23,200 there are ways that we can find 2764 02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:26,000 money without just putting on a tax 2765 02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:29,760 every single time or finding um, you 2766 02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:31,679 know, finding everyone. So, thank you so 2767 02:19:31,679 --> 02:19:36,709 much and hope you have a great day. 2768 02:19:36,719 --> 02:19:46,230 » Uh, anybody else in this? 2769 02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:49,120 Gary Delaney, 2940 Lever Street. Uh I 2770 02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:51,040 did not come here to speak on this item 2771 02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:53,520 tonight. So my knowledge of it is based 2772 02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:54,960 on what we've heard in the last few 2773 02:19:54,960 --> 02:19:57,359 minutes, but what I've heard is that we 2774 02:19:57,359 --> 02:20:00,160 have 17 businesses, which I consider a 2775 02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:03,040 large number, not properly paying this 2776 02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:06,399 tax. So our solution 2777 02:20:06,399 --> 02:20:10,000 is to increase the tax on those that are 2778 02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:11,840 doing their part in paying it rather 2779 02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:14,080 than figuring out a way to enforce it 2780 02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:17,439 and collect what is already due. Uh it 2781 02:20:17,439 --> 02:20:19,439 just seems like a more logical solution. 2782 02:20:19,439 --> 02:20:21,280 Let's come up with a way to make the 2783 02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:23,840 levy that's already there work. maybe 2784 02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:26,800 put some fines, stiff fines in place for 2785 02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:29,280 those that are not paying it properly as 2786 02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:32,800 opposed to raising another tax on the 2787 02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:35,040 law abiding taxpayer to the city. Thank 2788 02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:38,319 you. Thank you. 2789 02:20:38,319 --> 02:20:42,790 >> Bond. 2790 02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:46,319 Anybody else in 2791 02:20:46,319 --> 02:20:49,600 that I'll close public comment. 2792 02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:52,000 >> Um so just a couple of clarifications. 2793 02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:54,640 Uh first of all, as a reminder, we were 2794 02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:56,960 unable to enforce 2795 02:20:56,960 --> 02:20:59,760 um compliance because what we were 2796 02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:01,760 collecting was already up against the 2797 02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:04,560 cap. So now that that has been removed, 2798 02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:09,040 we are moving swiftly to enforce um the 2799 02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:14,319 uh budget deficit is uh very clearly in 2800 02:21:14,319 --> 02:21:16,560 my mind as finance director not because 2801 02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:21,439 of overspending or missspending. It is 2802 02:21:21,439 --> 02:21:24,720 very very simply we are required to do 2803 02:21:24,720 --> 02:21:26,560 comparables 2804 02:21:26,560 --> 02:21:29,680 um for our public safety as an example. 2805 02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:31,840 We also looked at market rates as far as 2806 02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:35,840 what it costs to pay our police and fire 2807 02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:37,520 as we're competing with Omaha and 2808 02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:40,319 Lincoln. Those salary increases were 2809 02:21:40,319 --> 02:21:42,960 millions of dollars. In addition, 2810 02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:44,640 unfunded 2811 02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:47,920 retirement mandates from the state. Uh 2812 02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:52,000 our police has a match on the retirement 2813 02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:53,920 of 9%. 2814 02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:58,319 Um on fire that uh this last year was uh 2815 02:21:58,319 --> 02:21:59,920 14% 2816 02:21:59,920 --> 02:22:02,800 that is going to 15% 2817 02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:06,000 match October 1st. Now remember FIRE 2818 02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:08,080 doesn't get social security. So you've 2819 02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:11,359 got six and a half there that others get 2820 02:22:11,359 --> 02:22:15,040 but that's still an additional 9%. 2821 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:18,720 And uh in addition, our insurance costs 2822 02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:23,040 went up about 30% last year. It's and 2823 02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:26,880 from um IT costs, cyber and other 2824 02:22:26,880 --> 02:22:30,000 things. Uh it it's these costs that have 2825 02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:32,640 gone up. And that's really not decisions 2826 02:22:32,640 --> 02:22:37,680 you have made. It's not um it's it's 2827 02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:42,720 comparables. It's state unfunded items. 2828 02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:45,840 it is market rates on insurance and and 2829 02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:48,160 that's you know having costs go up 2830 02:22:48,160 --> 02:22:50,479 millions of dollars where our property 2831 02:22:50,479 --> 02:22:54,000 tax goes up by 600k it creates a gap and 2832 02:22:54,000 --> 02:22:56,720 this is a good way um to fill it people 2833 02:22:56,720 --> 02:22:58,479 do have a choice whether they eat out or 2834 02:22:58,479 --> 02:23:01,520 not um this is a way for us to collect 2835 02:23:01,520 --> 02:23:04,399 from folks coming into our community uh 2836 02:23:04,399 --> 02:23:07,280 because if we don't do it here our other 2837 02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:13,030 option is property 2838 02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:14,319 Councilman her. 2839 02:23:14,319 --> 02:23:17,359 >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, you know, we're 2840 02:23:17,359 --> 02:23:19,840 going to have a lot of opportunities to 2841 02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:21,520 talk about all this stuff coming up 2842 02:23:21,520 --> 02:23:25,040 because of the U budget um discussions 2843 02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:26,720 that we will be having in the future. 2844 02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:29,200 So, um I don't want to go into that. I 2845 02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:31,760 do want to um support some of what you 2846 02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:33,760 have said just from my discussions and 2847 02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:37,520 what I've been able to um kind of just 2848 02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:40,160 read between the lines here. Um, first 2849 02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:42,479 off, there was a lid. We were not 2850 02:23:42,479 --> 02:23:45,040 allowed to collect more than $700,000. 2851 02:23:45,040 --> 02:23:47,680 That's been removed and so we are now 2852 02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:50,240 going to see how much of that we can go 2853 02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:52,000 and get and we're going to try to get it 2854 02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:55,600 all obviously. Um, but there's also a 2855 02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:57,439 shortfall that's coming and we need to 2856 02:23:57,439 --> 02:23:59,359 make up for that. This is an elective 2857 02:23:59,359 --> 02:24:03,520 tax um, which I like rather than a tax 2858 02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:05,680 that we have no choice in which is our 2859 02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:08,160 property tax. And if I have to make a 2860 02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:10,000 decision one or the other. I'm going to 2861 02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:11,680 probably choose the elective tax every 2862 02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:13,840 day. Obviously, we're not going to have 2863 02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:15,680 the luxury of making the choice between 2864 02:24:15,680 --> 02:24:17,359 one or the other, but we can certainly 2865 02:24:17,359 --> 02:24:20,800 lessen the impact on one by choosing the 2866 02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:23,680 other. And I do think that that seems to 2867 02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:26,720 be a more prudent choice that is going 2868 02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:29,120 to lessen the overall impact that's 2869 02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:33,200 coming at us. Um the um inflation 2870 02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:35,600 affects everyone. It doesn't just affect 2871 02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:38,640 the private citizen. um it affects 2872 02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:41,280 everything and that's what we're still 2873 02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:44,640 facing. So, thank you 2874 02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:46,000 Councilwoman Ganon. 2875 02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:50,080 >> Well spoken and I I will just ask a 2876 02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:51,600 question because this is one of the 2877 02:24:51,600 --> 02:24:53,840 first times publicly we've been 2878 02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:56,880 addressing actually the upcoming budget 2879 02:24:56,880 --> 02:24:59,760 and saying we are going to experience a 2880 02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:02,960 shortfall. Can you give me a time frame 2881 02:25:02,960 --> 02:25:04,960 when we'll start being able to present 2882 02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:08,720 some of the same information to public? 2883 02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:13,120 Uh yeah. So, uh August 20th, we get the 2884 02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:16,800 valuation from the county assessor and 2885 02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,200 we also find out what the growth is. And 2886 02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:21,760 as a reminder, if we've got 10 houses in 2887 02:25:21,760 --> 02:25:24,240 town and we built two new houses, it's 2888 02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:26,080 those two new houses that are the 2889 02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:29,680 growth, not any valuation increases on 2890 02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:32,720 the existing houses. So, we'll we'll get 2891 02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:35,520 that information. We have gotten from 2892 02:25:35,520 --> 02:25:38,479 the state already that the inflation 2893 02:25:38,479 --> 02:25:41,439 factor that when they change the laws on 2894 02:25:41,439 --> 02:25:44,880 property tax, as an example, because I'm assuming that's really what you're 2895 02:25:44,880 --> 02:25:49,600 asking about, uh, is 5.26%. 26%. So we 2896 02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:53,120 then need the uh growth percentage so 2897 02:25:53,120 --> 02:25:55,760 that we can calculate um in the new 2898 02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:58,560 rules in the past for example if the 2899 02:25:58,560 --> 02:26:00,640 overall valuation of the city went up 2900 02:26:00,640 --> 02:26:02,399 20% 2901 02:26:02,399 --> 02:26:04,160 council could choose as long as we 2902 02:26:04,160 --> 02:26:06,399 didn't go above 45 cents you could take 2903 02:26:06,399 --> 02:26:09,680 it. Um the new rules say it is last 2904 02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:12,160 year's property tax and you can only 2905 02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:14,319 increase it by the growth and then 2906 02:26:14,319 --> 02:26:17,520 inflation. can't take um the extra 2907 02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:19,760 valuation increases on people's homes 2908 02:26:19,760 --> 02:26:22,960 that are existing. Um and so we'll be 2909 02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:25,760 calculating that uh this year once we 2910 02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:27,920 get that valuation and then we'll 2911 02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:30,080 hopefully be able to present it just as 2912 02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:33,439 soon as possible. Um after that the next 2913 02:26:33,439 --> 02:26:36,080 >> I like the old better but thank you for 2914 02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:38,479 explaining that. 2915 02:26:38,479 --> 02:26:39,600 >> Councilman Vaughn, 2916 02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:41,200 >> just a point of clarification if I 2917 02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:43,600 could. This does include not only food 2918 02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:47,439 services but drinking places. 2919 02:26:47,439 --> 02:26:48,479 All inclusive, correct? 2920 02:26:48,479 --> 02:26:50,319 >> Food and beverage. 2921 02:26:50,319 --> 02:26:53,910 >> Thank you. 2922 02:26:53,920 --> 02:26:59,190 Any other questions from council? 2923 02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:03,600 If not, I'll make a motion. 2924 02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:05,920 Councilman her. I'll make the motion to 2925 02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:08,479 approve the first reading ordinance 5756 2926 02:27:08,479 --> 02:27:10,319 a meeting amending the food and beverage 2927 02:27:10,319 --> 02:27:15,280 tax food and beverage occupation tax. 2928 02:27:15,280 --> 02:27:16,560 >> Councilman Jensen 2929 02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:25,590 >> and I will second. 2930 02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:27,920 » That motion carries 8 to zero. 2931 02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:30,319 Ordinance number 5756, an ordinance to 2932 02:27:30,319 --> 02:27:32,080 amend chapter 14 of the Fremont Nebraska 2933 02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:34,160 Municipal Code. Ordinance number 5604, 2934 02:27:34,160 --> 02:27:35,439 increasing the rate of city's food and 2935 02:27:35,439 --> 02:27:36,880 beverage occupation tax by amending 2936 02:27:36,880 --> 02:27:39,920 section 143- 14-302A 2937 02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:41,280 collection and repealing any parts of 2938 02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:42,479 ordinance to be conflicted with and to 2939 02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:43,840 provide for publication at the effective 2940 02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:49,030 date of this ordinance first reading. 2941 02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:50,479 » Thank you. I'll take a motion to 2942 02:27:50,479 --> 02:27:53,520 adjourn. Councilman Jensen. Well, I was 2943 02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:54,720 going to make a motion to suspend the 2944 02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:59,110 rules, move to third reading, but 2945 02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:02,640 there any discussion on that. 2946 02:28:02,640 --> 02:28:06,000 That's my motion. 2947 02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:30,309 >> I'll second her. Second, 2948 02:28:30,319 --> 02:28:33,680 that motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor, 2949 02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:35,680 Ordinance number 5756, an ordinance to 2950 02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:36,880 amend chapter 14 of the Fremont, 2951 02:28:36,880 --> 02:28:38,080 Nebraska Municipal Code, Ordinance 2952 02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:39,680 number 5604, increasing the rate of the 2953 02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:40,960 city's food and beverage occupation tax 2954 02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:43,680 by amending section 14-302A collection 2955 02:28:43,680 --> 02:28:45,359 and repealing any parts of ordinances in 2956 02:28:45,359 --> 02:28:46,479 conflict or within provided for 2957 02:28:46,479 --> 02:28:47,600 publication in the effective date of 2958 02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:52,150 this ordinance final rating. 2959 02:28:52,160 --> 02:29:01,429 Cast your final vote. 2960 02:29:01,439 --> 02:29:03,120 That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor, 2961 02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:08,150 ordinance number 5756 is approved. 2962 02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:09,840 » I'll take a motion to adjurnn. 2963 02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:10,800 >> I'll make that motion. 2964 02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:12,080 >> Corner. 2965 02:29:12,080 --> 02:29:13,200 >> Council Jensen. 2966 02:29:13,200 --> 02:29:18,710 >> Second. 2967 02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:20,960 » That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor, 2968 02:29:20,960 --> 02:29:42,389 >> we are 2969 02:29:42,399 --> 02:29:45,560 That's it.