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>> mayor: all right. Good morning, everybody. It is 9:40. We do have two brief meetings

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this morning before our regular meeting starts. And so we're going to call this first of those to order.

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this is the board of trustees retiree health and trust fund. And we so one item on the agenda.

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is there a motion to adopt the agenda, commissioner hayes-santos. >> second.

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>> mayor: all in favor say aye. [chorus of ayes] all opposed? That motion passes.

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the only item on here we1 is the 2022 gainesville retiree trust fund update. With that we will recognize you.

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welcome. >> williams johnson, investment officer for the city. Board members.

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just some background on this item. Earlier this year the board met and requested that staff update

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the investment policy statement for this retiree trust fund to restrict investments in russian and bella russian securities.

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that is the main update in this investment policy statement in accordance with the board's direction.

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there's also an update to the investment rate of return assumption. We're reducing that from 9.9% to

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9.75% in line with the city's pension plans. And really that's a come by nation of input from the state

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division of retirement, our actuary and our investment managers. There is sort of a more

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conservative trend in investment rate return assumptions that the state pushes on local government plans, and this reflects that.

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>> mayor: okay. Thank you, mr. Johnson. Appreciate the update. Commissioner hayes-santos.

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>> thank you, mayor. I move that we adopt the new policy. >> second.

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>> mayor: motion and a second to adopt the new policy. Any members of the public here to speak to this item?

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back to the commission. All in favor say aye. [chorus of ayes] all opposed?

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that motion passes unanimously with commissioner duncan-walker absent. We will reconvene our next

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meeting at 9:45. We are adjourned. . >> mayor: good morning.

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this is the meeting of the board of trustees for gainesville general employees pension plan. September 15th.

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we have three items on the agenda today. Is there a motion to adopt the agenda?

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>> so moved. >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second to adopt the agenda.

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all in favor say aye. [chorus of ayes] all opposed? That motion passes unanimously

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with hayes-santos and duncan-walker absent. The first order of business is fy21 actuary evaluation report

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for the gainesville employee plan. Mr. Johnson, welcome back. >> board members, thank you.

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just an overview of this. We prepare or we have an external actuary prepare an evaluation of the pension plan

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every year. The intent is to evaluate the plans, assets and liabilities. And a funded status for the plan

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and then also to develop the contribution rate required by the city for the upcoming fiscal year.

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it's two. Year lag. This is the fiscal year '21 actuarial evaluation.

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it will term the fiscal year '23 employer contribution rate. The employee contribution rate is fixed at 5%.

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according to this, the fiscal year '23 employer contribution rate is being reduced from 5.53% to 5.09%.

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the actuarial report discusses the reasons for that. The primary reason is very good returns in fiscal year '21 and

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that affected the funded status of the plan. And caused a slight reduction in the contribution rate required.

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>> mayor: good news all around. Thank you, mr. Johnson. Any questions or is there a motion?

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commissioner arreola. >> mr. Mayor I'll move the recommendation. >> mayor: is there a second?

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>> second. >> mayor: motion to approve the 21 actuarial evaluation and employee the contribution rate

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of 5.09% based on that '21 valuation report. Any members of the public wish to speak to this motion.

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back to the commission. All in favor say aye. [chorus of ayes] all opposed?

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that motion passes unanimously with duncan-walker absent. Next is gainesville investment policy update.

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we'll go back to you, mr. Johnson. >> this item is very similar to the retiree health fund

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investment policy update. The only change here is again the restriction of russian and bella russian securities.

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and that issue was made at the request of the board back at their june 16th meeting. >> mayor: very good.

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we have two recommendations that are identical. I think that was a cut and paste sort of duplication there.

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are there any questions or is there a motion to approve the recommendation. Commissioner saco.

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>> mr. Mayor, I move staff recommendation. >> mayor: is there a second? >> second.

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>> mayor: motion and second to approve the recommendation which updates the direction given from the commission regarding russian

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bella russian investment. Any members of the public wishing to speak to that? All in favor say aye.

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[chorus of ayes] all opposed? That motion passes unanimously with duncan-walker absent.

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last is application for disability retirement for connie tomlinson. >> good morning.

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[inaudible] director. And I am going to present your ability to review and hopefully approve the application.

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she's worked for the city for about 18 years, been a component of the employ retirement plan is a disability retirement option

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for those due to an accident or injury, no longer able to perform the essential functions of their job continuously.

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ms. Thomson's file was reviewed. Due to progressiveness of her illness, it's unlikely that she'll be able to return to do

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her job and the disability review committee recommends acceptance and approval of the application for ms. Thomson.

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>> so moved. >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second that we approve the application

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for disability. Are there any questions or any members of the public wish to speak to this?

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okay. Back to the commission. All in favor of the motion say aye.

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[chorus of ayes] all opposed? That motion passes unanimously with commissioner duncan-walker

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absent. Do we have anybody here for general public comment? Okay.

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any member comment? All right. We will then be adjourned. We'll reconvene our regular city

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commission meeting at 10:00. . >> mayor: so just remove that from the agenda.

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>> and refer it [inaudible] >> mayor: thank you, commissioner. Commissioner duncan-walker.

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>> that you, mr. Mayor. That was one of my concerns so thank you, commissioner chestnut for that.

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I would like to pull d2 and d5. I nona there were a couple of questions. We wanted to have them get a

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little bit of clarity. >> mayor: okay. Pull and put on regular. >> the modifications shown on

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the screen and also move to the agenda and placed on a future general policy committee meeting.

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and that d2 and d5 from consent -- I guess in the end of the afternoon? >> mayor: I expect those to be

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short. I don't expect them to be long. Let's try to put them at the end of the morning agenda.

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>> mayor: we'll move to the commission to approve the agenda as modified. All in favor say aye.

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[chorus of ayes] >> mayor: all opposed? That motion passes unanimously. Madam clerk.

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anyone here for early public comment? >> no. F1 boss sum creek state lighting

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with the recommendation that the commission award the project to musco sports lighting. >> mayor: any comments or turn

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it over to ms. Wade. Ms. Wade, welcome. >> good morning, mayor and commissioners.

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thank you for the opportunity to provide you with a short update on the possum creek skating project.

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all right. Perfect. So this past april you asked me to explore what it would take to

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light possum creek skate park. I hired a lighting designer who is local and we worked with them and the sports lighting company,

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musco sports lighting to gather that [inaudible] in the amount of $152,000 to light possum creek yum creek skate park.

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we would have to light the parking lot and we thought it would be responsible to light the path to the rest room as

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well if we were going to extend the hours of the facility. So we would [inaudible] install the infrastructure so we could

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have gru rental lights in the parking lot and that lit path to the rest room. >> mayor: look at that.

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>> delayed a little bit. >> here's an image. A lot of people are not familiar with foot candles, an odd even

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of measure. If you think about the lighting you see in your average baseball field, it would be similar to

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that. We would be averaging about 24-foot candles. And a lit path to the rest room

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facility on site. There are some long-term operation maintenance costs that would be associated if you were

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to approve this project. We're estimating that would be $15,000 a year, which could be paid for by wild spaces at least

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for some duration. That cost would include the gru rental lights, the bulk of the cost and then the additional

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electricity cost for the musco sports lights and then the additional trash pickup because we think this facility would get

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a lot of use. Maybe some additional rest room cleaning as well. We need to feel that out.

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about $15,000 a year is the long-term cost. So staff is recommending to move forward with this proposal

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pending your discussion, of course. And we are looking at lighting the park and that parking lot

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area to about 9 p.m. That obviously could be extended with permits and other authorizations.

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we were thinking that 9 p.m. Might be a good starting point just to kind of get the neighborhood used to having that

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facility with the expanded hours of use. I did take a measurement of the southern edge of the skate park

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and we're about 430 feet away from the closest neighbor to the south, just do give you a head's up.

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and with that, pending your questions. >> mayor: okay. Thank you.

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commissioner hayes-santos. >> thank you, mayor. When would you expect it to open up with the new lights?

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>> so there are some delays right now with some electrical equipment, hand holds and junction boxes.

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we're seeing four to six months lead time in getting those items in. So this projects would not take

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place overnight. I'm thinking probably, because of the manufacturing delays on those specific gru-required

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item% the rental lights, we're looking maybe six months after we execute the contract, worst-case scenario.

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>> I would like to move that we adopt staff recommendation. >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second

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that we approve the recommendation. I think you covered this but I want to make sure for people who

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are listening or go back and watch this. The lighting will be sensitive to light pollution, correct, so

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it will be downward facing and very directional lighting. We're not lighting the whole park.

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it will be very focused and directed at the skate park, correct? >> that is correct, mr. Mayor.

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so if you look at this slide, this shows the foot candles. You can see 50 feet outside of the skate park or even a more

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truncated area, the lighting level goes basically to zero. Those lights would not extend past the skate park and the

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parking lot. >> mayor: I want to make that clear. That's a big priority and I'll

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let you know in some of the neighborhood walks aye had, people are supportive of improved lighting and lighting

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on some areas that we don't have it, like the rail to trail areas. But they also don't want their

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entire sort of neighborhood lit. They want it very focus on the areas where there would be, you know, activity.

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so I think this is an important sort of standard to set as we're looking at expanding lighting opportunities and going back

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retroactively and improving lighting when we have an opportunity to do so. Commissioner duncan-walker.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. Thank you, betsy. I wanted to ask if there was any kind of plan at this time to

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light other parks. I know that as I've driven, you know, throughout the city at different places, we do have a

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lot of opportunities to provide lighting in other places and I'm just curious if we have thought forward, if there's some sort of

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plan in that regard. >> yes, ma'am. That is a great question. So we actually have a lighting

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overhaul project that has an approved budget and we're currently working with a consultant.

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we're looking at eight different facilities. A lot of that work would be updating and upgrading our

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current infrastructure and then we have a handful of multipurpose fields and other facilities that we want to add

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lighting to. So that is in the works. We'll be bringing that to you soon for that discussion.

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>> wonderful. Thank you for that, betsy. The newly-brought-on unity park is one I pass frequently.

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I get a lot of calls from constituents to respond to that area. And that park gets a lot of use

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which is a good thing. I cannot remember the hours of operation but I can tell you that I've seen some of our

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younger neighbors utilizing the park space kind of as it starts to get a little dark. That will be interesting to see

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what this overhaul project entails as we move forward and what projects you have listed on it.

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>> yes, ma'am. >> thank you, betty. >> mayor: commissioner ward. >> thank you, mr. Mayor.

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thank you, ms. Wade. I appreciate you listening to the community. I know one of the first meetings

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I had as a commissioner back in 2017 was with some folks who really passionately were trying to get some additional hours for

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the skate park. And I'll say additional safe hours for the skate park because one of the issues is that it

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gets used anyway after dark and it's exceedingly dangerous to have a bunch of young people who are fairly well convinced that

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they are invincible out riding skateboards in the dark at one of our parks. This is a safety measure frankly

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and one that I think will be well-received from the community. This is not part of the general

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government budget and it's another highlight of the value that wild spaces public places brings to our community.

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thank you. >> mayor: thank you. Madam clerk, anybody from the public signed up to speak toe

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this item? We have a motion on the floor to approve the recommendation. All in favor of the motion say

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aye. [chorus of ayes] all opposed? That motion passes unanimously.

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thank you, ms. Wade. Appreciate it. Excited for this. I really am.

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all right. So up next, madam clerk. >> we have our f2, distributed solar generation intake to gru

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system item with the recommendation that that the commission hear a presentation from staff and accept a memo

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confirming the validity of gru's distributed solar generation intake policy from the interim general manager.

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>> this is tony carol, our acting officer and will give a brief presentation. In addition in the backup is a

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memo that will give a broader scope of the motion from the uab, their understanding and recommendation to continue with

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the policy that we have in place and with better understanding for the community and for people that are interested in this

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topic, that there are exceptions to our two megawatt limit per circuit. And so mr. Carroll will give

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that update and be available for questions. >> mayor: welcome. >> good morning, mr. Mayor and

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city commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity to present this topic to you. During today's question we're

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trying to answer the question of why does gru have a limitation of 2 mega watts per distribution circuit.

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we'll also talk about the results of a third-party study where we hired a third party to validate our assumptions or tell

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us what we should be doing. And thirdly, we'll be talking about the legal requirements and limitations.

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and then finally we'll discuss the conclusions. Okay. First of all, we have an energy

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deliver service guide which has been adopted as a city ordinance. I think it was done back in

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2011. And so in our energy delivery service guide, in section 8, we addressed the fact that the

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maximum amount of pv generation, which is the total aggregated output of all pv generation interconnected to gru system

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that can be interconnected on any gru feeder shall not exceed 2 mega watts. This was based on a study done

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in california about 11 years ago. I won't go into all of the details of reading all that's

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written up there, but basically the study that was done in california 11 years ago suggested that 2 mega watts was

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a good limit to have on a distribution feeder. As an example, last year we were contacted by the big store,

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target, where target was wanting to install 900kw of solar pv on their roof top. And on that particular circuit

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we already had 1.4 mega watts of solar pv connected. And that was on the circuit feeder number 936.

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and so we told them that impact study would be required and they asked us how much it would cost. And so during this time we were

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also coincidentally contacted by university of florida and they were interested in showing us what their capabilities were and

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what they could do in this area. And so we entered into a, just sort of a gentleman's agreement with the university of florida

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department of electrical engineering and they performed a study on this particular circuit.

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and that study showed that the maximum amount of solar pv that could be added to the 1.4 existing solar pv was 700kw

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instead of the requested 900kw. With that additional 700kw added to the mega watts, that brought the total solar pv on that

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particular circuit to 2.1 mega watts. And university of florida study indicated that anything

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exceeding 2.1 mega watts would cause an overvoltage during lightly loaded conditions. That made us feel much better

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and for the most part validated our 2-megawatt rule that that was a good starting point. And it was a good rule of

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measure. >> mayor: okay. If you could please pause for a question from commissioner ward.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. So would you back up one -- I want to get the wording right. Can you explain to us -- I think

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I know but I want to make sure that we're clear. What is overvoltage during lightly-loaded scenarios mean?

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>> okay. We have -- are required by the public service commission to keep our service that we provide

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plus or minus 5%. So for an example in a typical residential home, your voltage is going to be 120 volts at the

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wall outlet and then at places where you have your clothes dryer and your stove you're going to have 240 volts.

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all right. So plus or minus 5% is what we are required by the public service commission to keep our

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voltage limits within. And so in this case, during a lightly loaded condition on that particular circuit, say on a

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cool night when air conditioners aren't running and, you know, no heat is on, then adding more than the 700kw and exceeding 2.1

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mega watts would cause an overvoltage and in that case it exceeded plus 5% of 120, 120 volts.

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>> what is the effect of that to the system and to users? How does that impact? >> it could damage equipment

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consistent -- overvoltage would damage equipment, just like consistent undervoltage. >> it's a safety issue and an

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equipment load issue. >> mayor: reliability. >> it isn't just a -- it's not just a number on a spread sheet.

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it's an actual thing that can damage equipment, reliability and safety, my understanding. >> yes, sir.

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that's correct. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. >> mayor: thank you. >> okay.

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so now we're going to be talking about the results of a third-party study that we had performed on our system.

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and during this discussion I'll be talking about, you know, what the actual third-party request from gru, what gru provided the

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third party and then we'll be talking about their modeling and analysis criteria, the results of their study.

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and then we'll use some examples of how we're applying the study to our system. Okay.

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now this slide is showing -- shows three different things. On the far left-hand side we're looking at the total number of

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customers, solar pv customers that we have throughout our entire system. And we've got 262 customers that

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are solar feed customers which we no longer offer that option. And the remaining customers are 860 net emergency metering

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customers. That's what people apply for today, is net metering option. In the middle we're looking

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at -- we've got it broken down into the number of customers per phase. At the top it shows we've got a

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153 three-phase solar pv customers. And then on phase a, b and c, it's 327, 307 and 329.

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we try to keep it balanced. It's not the same circuits so sometimes we don't have the ability to balance as well as we

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would like to. I'll talk about that later. And on the far right-hand side, that is the total number of mega

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watts that we have in solar pv generation that's connected to the system at this time and it's 31.2 mega watts total.

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keep that number in mind. I'll bring that up on the last slide when I talk about the conclusions.

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32.2 mega watts. Okay. Now part of the challenges that we have when we're performing a

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study and whenever we're using solar pv is the fact that solar pv can affect, you know, our primary wires, our main feeder,

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our laterals. It can have effect on loads, both residential, commercial and industrial.

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it can have an effect on voltage regulation. It can have an effect on our protected devices, such as fuses

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and circuit breakers and relays and reclosures. It could also affect our scada ems system, the system fault

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current and also can cause reverse power flow. Whenever the third party was developing their model, what

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they requested from gru, they wanted to know, okay, just as a question that you asked, commissioner, was that -- they

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wanted to know, okay, what are your voltage limitations. We told them plus or minus 5%. And they wanted to know what's

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the balance on the circuit. So we had to provide them -- for every circuit we had to provide them what our balance -- how

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well-balanced are these circuits. We have some single phase load and some three-phase load.

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different circuits are balanced differently. I got ahead of myself there. Sorry.

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so after we provided all of this information, we work hand in hand with them. We provided them a model that we

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use for load flow and then they tweaked that model and added all of the solar pv that is connected on our system and then

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they ran their study. All right. And I'm not -- I don't have time to talk about all of the

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circuits, but what their study showed was that we can actually -- some circuits are not -- shouldn't have more than

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2 mega watts connected to it. Actually should have less than 2 mega watts connected to it. But our other circuits can

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handle more than 2 mega watts. It all depends on the load that's on the circuit and the configuration of the circuit.

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for example, I'm going to talk about two different substations here. The first one is kellie west

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substation. We have two transformers there. T-30 transformer is size dollars at 33.6mva.

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and two of the feeders connected to it are feeders number 280 and 282. On feeder 280 we have a negative

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number there, negative 4.7. And the reason that's a negative number is because that number is actually one of the backup

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circuits that feeds shands hospital. And it actually has generation connected to it.

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that's why that's showing up as a negative number. We can't add any more -- any solar pv to that because it's

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got existing generation connected to it. Circuit number 282, it can host up to 3.19 mega watts, which

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obviously that's greater than 2 mega watts. So we learned something there. And then we talk about the other

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transformer out of kelly west, t-29, that's a larger transformer and it's 56mva. And you can seize thousand four

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circuits connected to that transformer, the hosting pv capacity range anywhere from 1.01 mega watts up to 2.02 mega

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watts. And so again, we're seeing that 2 mega watts was a pretty good number as a starting point

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before we had a more detail study performed. Ironwood substation, that has three feeders coming out of it.

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and the solar hosting capacity at that location would be, it ranging anywhere from 2.55 up to -- no 1.44 up to 4.17 mega

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watts. Those are some examples of what the study showed us. Now this is a map that shows

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gru's entire distribution system. And what we're looking at here, as you can see there's three

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different colors. And the blue color are the circuits that have up to five mega watts of solar pv

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connected. Those would be the circuits that have the feeding customers connected to them.

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all of the yellow, those are the circuits that have up to 2.5 mega watts connected to them, or less.

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and so we would have to do, on those circuits, depending on the feeder, we would have to have an impact study done on that

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particular circuit if a commissioner requested to add any more load to those. All of the area that you see in

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red, those are the lightly-loaded circuits that have small amounts of solar pv connected to them.

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those are the areas that would easily host more solar pv connection because they all have less than 0.5 mega watts

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connected to them. Okay. Next we're going to talk about the legal requirements and

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limitations. And the florida statutes require the city to develop a standardization interconnection

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agreement and net metering program. And so this section 366.91-2d defines net metering as billing

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where customer owned renewable generation is allowed to offset part or all of the customer's electricity consumption on site.

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27-37, a gainesville code of ordinances establishes the city's net metering program. And section 27-36 is the

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gainesville code of ordinance which adopts the energy delivery service guide which I mentioned before has been adopted as an

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ordinance. Okay. The city ordinance on net metering states that it is the

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intent of this section to promote the use of customer-owned renewable generation to offset part or all

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of the customer's electric consumption. And the net metering program is only available to the city's

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electric customers who have constructed or are willing to construct customer-owned renewable generation at no cost

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to the city and willing to execute an interconnection agreement in the form and substance as provided by the

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city. Okay. Reference the energy delivery service guide before.

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section 8 establishes the process and requirements for solar pv connection. Section 9 is allowed to protect

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the gru system while allowing solar connection. Any studies or upgrades to gru's transformers or distributions

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are at the expense of customer-owned. And this is interpreted by the florida public service

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commission. Gru service guide is a living document. Okay.

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here we list some examples, benchmarking examples where other utilities in the state of florida also have a 2-megawatt

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limit on their distribution feeders. Jacksonville electric authority, florida power and light and also

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ocala electric utility. I'll add that ocala takes it a step farther. They do not allow their

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customers who want to install solar pv to exceed their existing service rating. Gru is willing to allow

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customers to install larger units that exceed the rating but they would have to pay for the upgraded of the service and the

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transformer if it is over 90% of the rating. Okay. Conclusions.

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gru energy delivery service guide follows the utility's best practice and allow pv solar and distribution circuit feeder.

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the host capacity results indicate that some circuits or feeders can only host less than 2 mega watts while others host

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more than 2 mega watts. If a customer wants to connect to one of those circuits that's going to exceed 2 mega watts or

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exceed what the study shows would be allowed on that particular feared, the third-party study, then the

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customer would have to pay for an impact study to ensure that other customers and gru equipment would not be

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negatively impact. In addition if it is determined that the utility distribution system upgrades are required to

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connect the additional solar pv, the customer developer would have to bear the cost of that also.

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and just as an example, we ran some recent numbers just to throw out there. A typical impact study would

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cost, for a 500kw or larger, say for a commercial installation, it's going to range anywhere from 15,000 to $46,000,

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depending on the complexity of the study and what all is connected to the circuit and the type of inverters that the

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customer is proposing to install, et cetera. Now for a typical, say a residential customer, maybe less

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than 10k w, we're looking at around $5,000 for an impact study. And in those cases if the

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transformer, say a single-phase transformer that serves a typical home needs to be upgraded, that could cost about

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$6,000. And if it was a commercial or industrial customer where a three-phase transformer was

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going to have to be upgraded or replaced, that could be as much as $30,000. Just to throw out some numbers

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for you. All right. Lastly, what I'll talk about is -- well, what we plan to do

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is we plan to have a new hosting capacity study ran and performed every three years. So we stay on top of this.

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because we're constantly receiving interconnection requests. We probably receive seven or

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more per week from customers. This data was based on numbers back in june. And so even these numbers aren't

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accurate today because we've had that many solar connection requests since that time. And remember when I talked about

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the 31.2 mega watts of solar pv that's connected today on our system, on the distribution system?

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now in 2019 we had an area control era study performed by the same company who performed the hosting capacity study for

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us. What that study showed is that for gru's entire system, the way that our dynamic generation is

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today, that the maximum amount of solar pv that gru can host on its entire system is somewhere between 40 and 75 mega watts.

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and this is due to the dynamic generation capacity and recovery resources and also the requirements of the balancing

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authority. And so you could take 75 and subtract 31 from it and, you know, at some point, unless we

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change the generation portfolio, you know, we're going to reach a limit where we're going to have to stop allowing connections,

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you know, in future years. >> mayor: okay. Thank you very much. Do you have another slide with

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the recommendation? >> let's see. I think... >> mayor: thank you very much.

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we do have some questions. Stick around. I'll start with commissioner arreola.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. Can you go back one slide, please. >> yes.

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>> thank you. First, thank you for the work. About a year ago a lot of what you said would have been foreign

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to my understanding. But after installing these for about a year, a lot of it makes sense.

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but what I want to ask about is really this last page, because, number one, when you say the customer must pay for an impact

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study. You were throwing out a bunch of numbers out there. What did you say was an estimate

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for an impact study for 15-kilowatt, 1500? >> that could be between 5,000 and 15.

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we've tried to nail down some estimates. We were told that anything less than 10k w would be around

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$5,000. But then the other number jumped to 100kw. >> so my concern here is we

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don't want to deter folks from setting up solar array systems because of an impact study. And those -- I mean, that's part

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of the cost. And I get that. But there has to be -- well at least from the gru's

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perspective, we have to have a set schedule for what those studies are going to cost. And we need to try and keep them

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as low as we can. Because some of those costs are very, very high that you mentioned.

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secondly, my other question was, are we still having meter delivery delays and things like that?

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is that still affects -- >> yes. >> that's city affecting our getting out to completed sites

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and things like that. >> mayor: mr. Cunningham, you want to jump in? >> yes.

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I'll start reverse order. I'll hit the first. So we are -- everybody is still experiencing world supply chain

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challenges with different materials and different things like that. We are getting a lot more of the

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electric meters and the pieces of the patter meter in the next several months to really start the mass deployment for the ami

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project. But -- so a lot of that is coming. But we are still seeing those

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delays as those things occur. Second thing is kind of talking about the cost of the impact study.

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just to contextualize it, this is the -- the impact study is only required if you're exceeding the 2-megawatt limit.

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so until we start bumping up against that there isn't an impact study and we're connecting them.

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but as we're getting more and more, that is going to become an issue. And I want to give a big

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picture, you know, an electric distribution system wasn't initially designed and built for generation at the end points.

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and that's why you have some of these limitations. One of the things we're -- you know, this is really a part,

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customers putting in solar pv is part of working toward net zero for the community and very good, as you're stating.

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we want that to be a part of the overall path forward. But we've got to balance that with how we operate our system

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and we've got to balance it with -- we can't have those systems costing other customers more money.

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so we have to be careful about the cost there and we have to balance the quality of power and our ability to provide power to

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other customers. That's why these impact studies, that's what they do, allow to make sure that we're not

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impacting power to the rest of our existing customers. So couple more things I just want to touch on.

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one is our office of sustainability, one of the things that they're looking at in this coming year is really

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looking as this grows, as solar pv is going to grow, how do we bring that into the system in a way that balances both of those

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elements, both the cost and the ability to provide power. And then lastly, we're still -- it's sort of on a slightly

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different note. We're pursuing getting 50 mega watts solar in the system that will be system solar as well as

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pursuing other options going forward if there are other ways to expand our system solar. I wanted to give that broader

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context. This isn't a recommendation slide but the recommendation really is for us to continue on

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the path that we're on now using that policy with the exceptions of the impact studies when we start bumping up against those

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limits. >> thank you. No, I appreciate that. It's very important because, you

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know, one of the worst-case scenarios that I've seen is folks, they're excited to get solar on their roof, they pay

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for an array,it gets up and never passes inspection because of any number of technical issues.

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one of those things would be the dcs. So thank you for getting this back to us.

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I think it's important information for us to have based on the direction that we're trying to go for renewable

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energy and the dynamic generation capacity may change, you know, in any given number of decades here in the future.

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thank you. >> mayor: thank you. Commissioner ward. >> thank you, mr. Mayor.

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a few things I wanted to clarify. When we say between 40 and 75 mega watts, that's a

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conglomerate system-wide, but it breaks down by circuit. So a lot of that could be in one -- if we -- if archer road,

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if every business suddenly put solar on their roof top, that maximizes, way overmaximizes what's possible there.

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and it's that up while other circuits around town could be nearly empty, correct in. >> yes, that's correct.

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>> so that's a conglomerate, 40 to 75. But it really doesn't break down across the city in a specific

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sort of way. So if you would go back to the map that showed where the current installs are, it's not a

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neighboring issue. Going down waldo road, those are all businesses for the most part in the blue.

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those are, I'm guessing, apartment complexes down in the butler plaza area, may be targeted and that sort of thing,

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right? Very bottom of the screen there. >> I think that's correct, yes. >> and yeah, like the mall and

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other -- so it's commercial that is -- that has over 5 mega watts on the system right now for the most part.

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>> yes. >> because those red areas, those are neighborhoods. >> yes.

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>> and I don't know where the -- I have no idea where the circuits are on the system an how that breaks down and I don't

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need to know right now. But my guess is that we're a good little way for a lot of neighborhoods from reaching that

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maximum. Is that fairly accurate? >> if memory serves me correctly, commissioner, I think

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we've got seven circuits that are presently either already at 2 mega watts or, you know, very, very close to 2 mega watts of

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solar pv connected to them. >> and how many circuits do we have? >> 70.

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>> 70. Okay. All right. And we can probably count those

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seven just looking at the map, where the blue stuff is, right? >> well, the blue stuff is our -- part of them.

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and the yellow are up to 2.5 mega watts. Some of the yellow are going to be --

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>> they're starting to get close. >> yes. >> okay.

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all right. Well that helps me. I appreciate this. This is all good information.

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>> if I had to guess -- excuse me -- I think that the majority of our requests, and my colleagues can correct me if I'm

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wrong, are on the west side of town. Is that right? >> yeah, because that's where

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the request would be for, particularly with a spike in build this summer, people want to take control of their system.

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>> right. >> in at all possible. Doesn't mean it's possible to do that.

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it's interesting how that works out. There's more yellow east of 13th street than I would have

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thought. So that's great. That's good news. This is manageable.

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we can come up with a way to do this going forward. But this is the conversation we needed to have to figure out

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what's next as we go through the process mr. Cunningham was describing. It's not that it's not possible.

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it's just that we have to understand it better. >> yes, sir. >> and I do think it's really

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important for people to understand that -- it was important for me to understand, let me say, that it's not an

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arbitrary number. That we're not just saying oh, that's the maximum you can have just cause.

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but if they plug too much in -- just like if we plug too much into this, something bad is going to happen.

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>> correct. >> and maybe that means that your equipment breaks or maybe it means there's a fire or any

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number of bad things that can happen. But it functions very much like -- we all know there's only

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so much we can plug into one of these strips. But we don't think about how that relates back up the system.

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so it's important for me to make that connection, no pun intended. Thank you.

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I appreciate it. >> mayor: one quick question. I'm going to play the role of the selfish neighbor here.

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let's say that you know, I just want to put a 10k w, you know, rooftop array on my home. Do an impact study.

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shows that the transformer that I'm on needs to be upgraded. Don't my neighbors also benefit from that upgrade?

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>> in certain situations. If your neighbor -- if you have neighbors who have served from the same transformer, yes,

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that's correct. >> mayor: and look, it's not a reason for me to like move this thing in a sideways direction,

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but that's something, mr. Manager, I think we need to talk about. If I go in -- what would be the

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cost of a typical transformer upgrade in a residential neighborhood. >> for a residential

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neighborhood, around $6,000. >> mayor: so if I pay for that to get my solar and then my neighbors next to me, now they

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have capacity and can put their solar up without that, you know, I mean, I don't know. That's maybe a tragedy of the

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commons kind of thing. But, you know, I think we need to think about that, like how do we assess that upgrade.

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everybody benefits, right. So typically when there's a private benefit to something, we try to equitably distribute that

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to all of the folks impacted by it. I don't see an easy way to do that right now.

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it's sort of going to be up to me. I really, really want solar. And frankly with the $6,000 it's

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still going to be a net economic benefit to me over a 20-year period. It will.

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just not as much. But there is a front-end cost there that unless I can sort of finance that or do, you know, a

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property assessment, you know, at zero percent. Anyway, I think we need to try to figure that out.

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because it really could be a barrier to entry for folks that are, you know, that are looking to do it for the economic

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benefit, not necessarily some social good or environmental positive impact. I don't have an easy solution to

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that. I'm not pretending to like figure that out from the dais today.

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but, you know, it is something we, I think, should talk about. You know, I do have some -- I think with some -- I think there

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could be some cooperative agreements or other things like that. If you're friendly with all of

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your neighbors and they're into it, I don't know. Not to ramble too much. But I recently built a fence and

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the fence that I erected benefits two of my adjacent neighbors. Before I did it I spoke to them,

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would you be willing to split the cost of the portion of your fence. And they were both gracious and

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say yes, absolutely. I'm benefiting from this as well. Good neighbors will do that but

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we can't craft public policy hoping that people are nice to each other. If that were the case we would

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not need government. If we were angels, we would have no need for government. So we have to remember that as

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well. But anyway, I think, you know, if we can put a pin in that. Get the people that are much,

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much smarter than me at gru and that are, you know, part of this industry out there to be thinking on ways to account for

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that, you know, because I don't think there's any way in the next couple of years we don't need to come back and really

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revisit this and figure out how are we going to make it much more -- just how can we reduce the barriers to more and more

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distributed generation. Because that's just where we're going, right. I mean that's just the sort of

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long-term truth of the industry. So I just kind of wanted to bring that up. >> mr. Mayor, can I comment just

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briefly on that? >> mayor: yeah, of course. >> yeah, I don't have the solution today.

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but this is very common in the utility city, extension policies and how you deal with this issue that we're describing here.

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a developer puts in a certain size line, other people benefit from that size line. That developer puts in a lift

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station, other developments in the future benefit from that lift station. So there are some things that we

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could do that are out there. It's not always clean and perfect, but I think there are solutions like that that we will

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definitely evaluate and be recommending. And this is why we are really putting this on the goals and

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objectives this year of the office of sustainability is to try to figure out what is this going to look like going

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forward. And especially as we're getting a lot more inquiries into this realm, how is that going to kind

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of fold into the utility as we march forward. We will be addressing those issues as part of that

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evaluation. >> mayor: great. Thank you. Commissioner hayes-santos.

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>> move staff recommendation. >> mayor: I don't -- I think it was just informational. Oh, there is a recommendation to

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accept the memo. Okay. Thank you. Motion to accept the memo.

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is there a second? Second. Okay. Thank you very much.

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madam clerk, anybody signed up to speak to this item. Back to the commission. All in favor of the motion say

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aye. [chorus of ayes] all opposed? Motion passes.

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the uab also heard this item and sort of approved of the current policy but also the future sort of intention to look at this

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more deeply and come back with some recommendations. Madam clerk next item. >> f3, status update of the

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department of financial services and the fiscal year 2021 annual audit with a recommendation that the city commission hear an

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update on the status of the department of financial services and the fiscal year 2021 annual audit.

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>> mr. Mayor, members of the commission, this is a financial update. Ms. Wong is here, the acting

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director of the finance department. This item is here, mr. Mayor, because I thought it was

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probably appropriate at this time to give the board an update. We're approaching the end of the

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fiscal year. I think when we spoke to the board last clearly we were not going to make the june deadline

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to finish the financial statements for '21. We were fast forwarding of course towards the end of the

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fiscal year to complete. We're not there. Why are we in this predicament. I just thought it was important

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to just kind of summarize where we are relative to why we are at this point. I think back in january we had

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the report from the state auditor general who outlined several findings that had been outstanding since fiscal 2018

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and we also had our internal auditor do a report on our internal controls of our audit on our internal controls that

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pointed at findings as well. So what we have unfortunately endured probably for the last four or five years is

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inconsistency in staff. We've had a lot of staff turnover. Quite frankly even between the

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period of january and now we did hire a financial services director and a controller. The financial services director

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had some health issues and of course had to step away. The controller, sue wong, is now acting as our finance director.

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so we've had some staff turnover, we've had some vacancies. Those vacancies have been

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attacked quite aggressively. You'll hear how we've been able to fill many of the vacancies. There is a power point.

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I'm not sure, but at any rate, we have some process break downs and that is because of the platform, work day as we call.

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the data conversion with work day has not worked well since it was implemented in july of 2021. And the configurations and

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mapping in terms of information has not worked well as we have tried to close down the audit for 2021.

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and so with that I just kind of wanted to paint that background and have ms. Wong talk through where we are.

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we are making progress but we will not make the end of the fiscal year in terms of having the '21 audit closed out.

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and with that I will pass over to ms. Wong. >> so good morning, mayor and commissioners.

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sue wong, acting finance director. Thank you for having me today. I met some of you and watched

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videos of you, of the commission meetings before I got here. So I'm very happy to be here to give an update on the 2021

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annual audit. And also provide a status update on the department of financial services as ms. Curry just

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mentioned. Do have a power point. >> does broadcast. >> are we able to --

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>> broadcast. Can broadcast pull it up, please and thank you. Oh, good.

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the mayor is back. [inaudible] >> mayor: I'm out. Two minutes, madam manager, two

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minutes. >> you'll have to proceed. I don't know that they are prepared.

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>> sounds good. So 2021 annual audit, so I am happy to report that we made significant progress in our

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areas. So that includes revenue, expenditures, receivable, payable, cash and investment,

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capital assets, single audit, long-term liabilities. So it's a lot. So we've made progress in all of

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these areas. So currently we are down to two things. So one is bank reconciliations.

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the other one is -- there we go. So we are down to two things at this point. One is bank reconciliations.

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the other one is analytics, which is the year over year analysis of all accounts. Without these two areas being

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completed the auditors cannot wrap up the rest of the testing. So that's our focus point at this, at this moment.

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it's the number-one priority for my department. So we are all hands on deck. And this includes the support

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from our external consultant and the gru team and ms. Claudia rasnick. Without their help and support

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we wouldn't be where we are today. In particular I want to give a shout out to mr. [inaudible],

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the controller at gru. So he's been very instrumental in getting all of the requested materials ready for the auditors

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and getting it done and checked often. So as ms. Curry said, unfortunately, you know, due to

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these challenges, we cannot meet the 9/30 deadline. We know it's our number one priority.

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we're working as hard as we can to get audit done as soon as possible. Once those two areas are done,

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the auditors can finish up the testing and then we can start the, prepare for the [inaudible] management discussion and

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analysis and then prepare the schedules in the statistical session of the book. So ms. Curry mentioned those

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challenges that we are facing. I'm not going to go into that. I think the commission is well-informed of the challenges

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that my department is facing. One thing I do want to point out is an erp implementation is very challenging process in the best

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of times. So many government entities, you know, when they go through an erp implementation, they

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encounter difficulties. And it's a daunting task. So we are not alone. I just want to point that out.

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so facing these challenges, so what do we do. So I came on board on june 13th.

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so it's been three months and two days, I think. So I have been thinking long and hard about this approach for the

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path forward. So after discussion, this is what I would like to share with the commission today.

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so we're adopting a three-prong approach. So essentially on the left side -- so the top down.

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so we need to do the analytical reviews and reconciliations. Those reviews include major revenue analysis, major

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expenditure analysis, major -- the budget actual analysis. We need to if do year-over-year analysis.

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we need to do the bank reconciliations, the balance sheet account reconciliations. Only by doing this high-level

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analysis can we catch mistakes and try to find the solutions. To the right of the chart, I call it bottom up.

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so essentially workday is full of data. We want to make sure when data first enter into workday that

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they are accurate. So the accounting division within my department is working very hard with the receipt side,

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the cash receipt, accounts receivable, so on the disbursement side, the payables, the payroll.

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this also goes to the centralized departments. We want to make sure that when data first into workday that

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they're accurate. In between the high-level analysis and make sure the data entry into workday, so we want

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to focus on three things. So essentially we need to focus on system, we need to focus on our people and we need to focus

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on processes. So what do I mean by that. So system. I want my accounting folks to

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become expert in workday, in our erp. This does not mean that they need to be programmers.

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however, they need to know how data are entered into work day. They need to understand how the mapping works in workday.

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they need to understand how sub ledgers flow into general ledger. They need to understand the

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roll-ups, the hierarchies in workday. So to provide tending and support for my hiring folks.

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it's called financial systems architect. We have made an offer to a highly-qualified individual.

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so this person is certified in workday -- in multiple areas of workday. So I believe -- so hopefully I'm

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not getting it wrong, but she's qualified in workday payroll, in reporting, in hr, I believe. So she's going to come and help

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us in everything workday related. So to provide tending and support.

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so people. So when I came on board in june -- so we had four accountants in my department and

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these are the four hardest working accountants that I've ever known. So kudos to them.

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since then we hired a new accounting manager and we hired a senior accountant. So they both started last week.

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so my team is actually expanding. So we bring those folks on board.

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it's my job to build them up, to provide tending, to make sure, you know, we -- my divisions are talking to each other.

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that, you know, we understand that we work together. This is our number. This is our report.

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so process. I have been really drilling down to my folks, you know, understanding the whys of we're

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doing things is very important. We need to understand and document the processes. So to help us with that -- so we

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hired a long-time city employee who has since retired. We brought her back. Her name is ms. Marta.

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I think a lot of you know her. If you see her, run into her, please say thank you to her for coming back and give us a

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helping hand. So she is tasked with process documentation. I think with her being

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intimately familiar with the city's processes, procedures and policies, she is a very good choice to help us to finish up

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the -- or even start and finish up the documentation. And that also will free my accountants up in focusing on

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doing bank reconciliations, account reconciliations. Working with my other operations team.

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so I am very hopeful by making these changes, by bringing those folks on board that it gives us a path forward.

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these are the priorities that we are focusing on. Most of it is based on the previous year's audit findings.

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if you look, most of them are normal accounting functions. So our goal is to make sure that those functions are functioning.

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I am really happy to report that we are making progress in all of these. So we are working on it.

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so, for example, month end close. We haven't closed our month in I don't know how long.

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it's been a long time coming. We have a team working on it. We are compiling the month-end close checklist.

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I'm in the process of drafting a memo to distribute to all departments that coming in october, the beginning of our

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fiscal year, that we are going to close the month end. It is very important because once we start closing the

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months, then we can start preparing and distributing the quarterly financial reports so that people can, you know,

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gather reports and review them and give us feedback. So that's in progress and I'm very happy with the progress

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we're making on that. So bank reconciliations. I'm devoting two to work on bank reconciliations.

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I have weekly check-ins with them so if they run into road blocks or the deposits into workday do not match up to the

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deposits in the bank, what do we do. I'm here to provide support for them.

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and we're working very hard on it and I have every confidence that it's going to be caught up and be kept up to date.

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so I'm not going to go into all of that. But I just want you to be aware that those are very important to

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us. Those are the priorities. Those are our normal accounting functions that, you know, we

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want them to start functioning. So in summary, so it takes time to get us to where we need to be.

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it needs strategic planning. It needs for us to lay out all of the plans so that we can stay on course.

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we are actually carrying out these plans to achieve our goals and we are adopting a team approach to tackle these issues

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and come up with the solutions. We also need to keep monitoring the staffing level in the accounting division because I

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truly feel, in my department we have momentum now that we need to come up with, you know, succession plan, the backup

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plans. If there's a setback in my department -- we all know we had plenty of setbacks.

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if there's a setback that we can get back on our feet very quickly and get our visions going.

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so it's doing to be a long journey. It's going to be an exciting journey.

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it's going to be a rewarding journey. So I see myself in this journey as a mentor, as a guide, as a

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cheerleader, as a psychiatrist at times. But I am absolutely convinced I have the right team with me.

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we are working on the right things. We are headed towards the right direction.

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so all I'm asking is everybody's understanding and patience. I am absolutely sure we are doing the right thing.

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so with that I conclude my presentation this morning and will be happy to answer any questions you have.

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>> mayor: all right. Thank you very much. We appreciate that so much. Madam manager, anything you

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wanted to add? >> thank you, mr. Mayor. I just wanted to say this month really will conclude the

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participation of the gru staff that was working with us. Without their support we would not be here.

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so I really want to thank general manager cunningham and the support that you provided through your staff with claudia

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rasnick and mr. Lynn loria and others. Phenomenal. Thank you.

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but they will be going back to gru and attending to the issues that they have clearly have to there.

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>> mayor: thank you. Commissioner arreola. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. I want to commend you and your

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team for all of the work that you've done. As the manager just said, it was a team effort.

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you know, I want to say from my perspective, my view of the role of the commission, patience and understanding is a bare minimum.

548
01:29:08,710 --> 01:29:17,686
we need to be proper advocates to really support all of the resources that you all are going to need, not even just in this

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01:29:17,686 --> 01:29:27,686
next year but going forward. Because obviously it was a series of years of mistakes and so in order to prevent, you

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01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,870
know, anything like that from happening in the future, this commission needs to be prepared to support our office and I

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01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:43,745
would hope that commissioners take that message to heart. Because it is -- it's a lot of work and certainly I don't want

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01:29:43,745 --> 01:29:52,921
it to go unnoticed that the effort that you all have put into really to get into the mind seth to be able to tackle this

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01:29:52,921 --> 01:29:59,940
issue and then be able to do it is -- it's, honestly it's very impressive. I want to commend you all for

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01:29:59,940 --> 01:30:04,633
the work that you've done. Thank you. >> mayor: thank you. Commissioner duncan-walker.

555
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>> thank you so much, ms. Wong. I wanted to pull my mask down just for a second so you could see the smile on my face.

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01:30:12,974 --> 01:30:19,814
and I wanted to say welcome. You have jumped in, I mean, head first. And your presentation today has

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01:30:19,814 --> 01:30:26,921
been so impressive. What I noticed was the attention to detail, the spirit of team work.

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and I just want to say welcome. I want to say thank you. I cannot speak for all of my colleagues but it sounds like

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there may be a consensus that you will have the support of everyone here to continue in the work.

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we do understand the mountain that is ahead of us. It's very serious. And we thank you for your work,

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01:30:45,674 --> 01:30:50,812
your professionalism and your optimism. So we certainly look forward to that being maintained throughout

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01:30:50,812 --> 01:30:56,985
this process. And I'll just say again thank you very much. And welcome.

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>> mayor: thank you. Commissioner chestnut. >> thank you. Thank you, mr. Mayor.

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I want to congratulate the manager. The manager inherited this. This audit situation.

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and under her leadership we are about to solve it. We're well on the way. And I want to thank gru interim

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manager and his staff for jumping in and lending the support to help us through this. It's been a team effort and I

567
01:31:26,548 --> 01:31:32,200
just appreciate the effort everyone put in in tackling the issue. Thank you.

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>> mayor: thank you. Commissioner ward. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. And thank you to ms. Wong, and

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welcome. I am pleased to know that you watched our meetings and still chose to do this.

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and I also want to thank the manager as well, as commissioner chestnut said. This is a multiple manager

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01:31:52,774 --> 01:32:02,450
issue. And we have now reached a point where I think we have, I feel like we have the consistency

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01:32:02,450 --> 01:32:09,157
that is necessary to move forward here. And consistency really is the key.

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01:32:09,157 --> 01:32:19,157
a revolving door at the top does not get this problem solved. That is important to remember as we go forward.

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I'll reiterate what everyone has said. Whatever resources you need, madam manager, and ms. Wong,

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01:32:27,842 --> 01:32:33,248
whatever you need -- and any of our charters. If you need resources, we need to know.

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01:32:33,248 --> 01:32:41,156
and I think that's part of the issue going back years is nobody said hey, we need resources. So if you need the resources,

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01:32:41,156 --> 01:32:51,156
let us know before we have an issue. I would much rather hear that we need more people before we --

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before it's too late. We can make plans. We can move things around to support the additional

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resources. But it's really hard to do that after the fact. So thank you for being here and

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for the effort that has been put in. And everybody that has worked on it top to bottom, I feel like we

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are in a good place. I look forward to bringing more folks on as we have the new budget.

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and I think we're going to get there sooner rather than later. Thank you. >> thank you.

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>> mayor: thank you. >> we still have to finish the '21 audit so that's what we're working on right now.

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that is still a task that is clearly very important. So we're driving. >> mayor: thank you.

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I appreciate ms. Wong, thank you for taking over an unexpected and emotionally difficult circumstances.

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01:33:49,257 --> 01:33:54,262
that's hard to do no matter what. And you've done a superb job of that.

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you know, I also want to thank everyone from the manager, ms. Curry, to mr. Cunningham and his team, as well as the

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01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:14,649
auditor. We've done everything we can to be very upfront about our situation and make sure that

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we're communicating clearly. And you know, we'll continue to do that, I know. And we're in such a better

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01:34:26,461 --> 01:34:36,461
circumstance right now than we were six months ago. And so -- and it hasn't been small progress.

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01:34:36,871 --> 01:34:44,445
it's been large leaps. And there is still of course, as you've been very clear, some work left to do.

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but we can see the point at which we're going to be caught up and then operating under improved standards and

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expectations once we get there. So thank you everybody that's put time into this. Our city is much better off for

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01:35:03,965 --> 01:35:08,903
it. There's no action. This was an informational item. But madam clerk, do we have

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anybody signed up to speak to it? Welcome. >> good morning, jo beaty.

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I won't repeat what everybody said, but I was listening to this as I was driving over and I can't tell you -- ms. Wong?

597
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do I have her name correctly? I can't tell you how impressed I was with her, especially her approach to her team building,

598
01:35:38,633 --> 01:35:42,604
her wanting people to understand. As a teacher, I guess that's the way I look at things.

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01:35:42,604 --> 01:35:48,843
you know, you need to give them the picture, not just tell them what to do. But give them the tools to do it

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themselves. And her whole framework and approach to what she wants her team to know and understand the

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underpinnings of how this works. I just found her whole presentation very impressive. It's the first really heartening

602
01:36:09,970 --> 01:36:17,905
presentation I've heard in a long time from anybody here and I just want to thank her and welcome here.

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01:36:17,905 --> 01:36:26,547
and I hope we get a lot more hires like that and that you can fill some of the empty seats and we can move forward.

604
01:36:26,547 --> 01:36:31,819
thank you. And thank you, ms. Wong. >> mayor: thank you. Anybody else, madam clerk?

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all right. Thank you all very much. Up next, madam clerk. >> one clarity.

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do you want to go to d2 or to the resolutions. >> mayor: let's do the resolution.

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and then we can get to those items pulled from consent. >> g1, acceptance of faa aip grant no. 3-12-0028-051-2022 in

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the amount of $14,882,613 from the u.s. Department of transportation, federal avison ration administration with the

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01:37:02,450 --> 01:37:07,955
recommendation that the commission adopt the resolution and authorize the mayor and city attorney to execute and the city

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01:37:07,955 --> 01:37:16,955
clerk to certify the grant agreement. >> good morning. Just quickly, this is a -- we

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routinely bring these faa grants that go to the airport authority to the city commission because the city commission is the owner

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01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:35,840
of the underlying land that the airport sits on. I act as your ex-officio. This is designed to approve the

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01:37:50,832 --> 01:37:57,305
taxi ways up at the airport and then also the general aviation apron. And these are all improvements

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01:37:57,305 --> 01:38:03,711
that will help build capacity for the airport. I think just so the commission has an understanding of

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01:38:03,711 --> 01:38:13,711
magnitude, I was talking to mr. Pensga the other day and over the last 20 years this city commission and former city

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01:38:13,855 --> 01:38:18,126
commission have approved approximately $150 million in grants that have gone to the airport.

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it's pretty substantial investments in east gainesville and to a driver of economic impact on the east side of town.

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thank you. >> mayor: thank you, mr. Bredfeldt. And the outcomes of those

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approvals certainly show. The airport looks phenomenal, functions incredibly well. I've been flying out of there

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off and on for many, many, many years and it's really almost unrecognizable today compared to say, 20 years ago.

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that's a testament to you and your leadership, mr. Pensga and really pleased with where we are with that.

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commissioner hayes-santos. >> I move resolution 2022-477. >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second to

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approve the resolution. Any members of the public wish to speak to this, madam clerk? >> I don't really want to speak

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to. Just a comment. You said about the changes in 20 years.

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01:39:17,218 --> 01:39:23,958
the first time I came to the gainesville airport was in 1972 when I came to meet my future in-laws.

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and I want to tell you at that point as I recall, it was like a [inaudible] and there was no terminal.

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01:39:30,164 --> 01:39:37,138
and so you talk about the changes in 20 years. That's the changes in close to 50 years.

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and I can't believe it. It is a very nice facility. I just wanted to -- you prompted a memory.

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thank you. >> mayor: thank you. Okay. Then with that we have a roll

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call vote. >> commissioner arreola is absent. Commissioner chestnut.

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>> aye. >> commissioner saco. >> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker.

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>> aye. >> commissioner ward. >> aye. >> commissioner hayes-santos.

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>> aye. >> and mayor poe. >> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously

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with arreola absent. All right. To our pulled items, madam clerk let's start with d2.

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>> all right. Item d2 on page two, southwest 62nd boulevard connector construction award 2022-345 with

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the recommendation that the commission award the build southwest 62nd boulevard connector to watson construction

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01:40:33,194 --> 01:40:43,194
company, llc in the amount of 16,137,456.98 and authorize the city manager or designee to enter into a construction

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01:40:43,905 --> 01:40:52,113
agreement with watson construction company, llc and any other necessary documents with southwest 62nd boulevard

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connector subject to approval of the city attorney or designee as to form and legality. Ms. Manager?

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>> mr. Brian singleton is here to provide any explanation. >> brian singleton, acting public works director here to

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present on the southwest 62nd boulevard connector project. The purpose of the project is to

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complete the interconnected roadway grid in the southwest portion of the city in accordance with the city and

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01:41:24,512 --> 01:41:34,512
county's comprehensive plans. It also will reduce congestion on i75 and 20th avenue, newberry street and archer

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01:41:36,824 --> 01:41:42,290
roads. Here is an overview of the area just laying out some of the different projects that have

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been completed in the area over the past ten years or so. West of the interstate, the county has been expanding

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southwest 8th avenue grid network. That was recently completed last year.

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coming over the interstate 20th avenue you, that is a future project for the county four-leaning that bridge and

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providing a dedicated pedestrian connection over the bridge. Just on the other side in front of cabana beach in that coral

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01:42:15,290 --> 01:42:21,669
color, that's the roadway alignment that we're presenting today that connects into the new roadway grid that was recently

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completed by butler plaza as well as celebration pointe. And then south of archer road, the city completed southwest

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40th boulevard project connecting archer road down to 34th street at the post office that was opened three or four

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years ago. And then on the other side of williston road, we've currently analyzed southwest

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42nd terrace extension to provide an alternate alignment to williston road. Correctively all of these

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projects are expanding the interconnector roadway grid so that to reduce the congestion on the surrounding roadway network.

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this project was established by federal highway and fdot delivered through local agency grants.

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county started it in 2007 through a pd and e studdie. We looked at 11 different routes.

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ultimately the route we're presenting today is -- was determined to be the best route through the mtpo.

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from 2014 to 2016 the preliminary report was put together and then from 2016 to 2022 we received federal aid

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approval of the alignment, fdot completed the right-of-way acquisitions and the city completed the design.

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corridor is 1.4 miles in length, right-of-way varies. There will be 11-foot travel lanes, 10-foot shoulders with a

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7-feet bike lane and a 10-foot-wide multiuse path on the northeast side of the roadway.

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here's another snapshot of the corridor. At the left side is cabana beach where there will be a tomorrow

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water pond constructed. South where the -- about a 330-foot-span bridge will be placed coming down to the

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northern end of clark-butler boulevard where that hard bend in the road is at today at the walmart existing pond there will

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also be reconfigured and expanded. Prior grant awards. Internally to the city and

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county has been $18.5 million to date. Total -- excuse me, 8.5 million to date.

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total funding has been 15. 4 million, including all of the environmental reviews, regulations, right-of-way, et

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cetera. For the construction phase, fdot is providing 13.1 million for the construction.

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the city -- we're proposing the city to fund 3 million for the construction. Fdot is also providing the

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construction engineers and inspections fund in the amount of about $2 million. Duration.

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we're expected to start in november. There will be some lane closure restrictions.

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the roadways listed there. Butler boulevard, 20th avenue, 24th avenue, 43rd street, any lane closure wills be

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required to be done at night so that way it won't impact the traveling public. Then in front of cabana beach

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lane closure wills be restricted from being in the peak hours for the same reasons. There will be two closures

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required that vary north end of butler boulevard will have to be reconstructed through a closure. That will occur from february of

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next year through july of next year. Traffic will be rerouted via southwest 25th avenue and then

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a section of cabana beach will be closed september through december. This was coordinated with cabana

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beach and the butler boulevard closure was coordinated with butler enterprises. Our recommendation is to award

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the bid to watson construction in the amount of 16.1 million and to authorize the manager to enter into the agreement and any

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other documents to move the project forward. And with that I'll yield to any questions.

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>> mayor: thank you. Appreciate that. Commissioner chestnut. >> thank you.

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well this is quite, quite impressive. It's going to be a great addition to the community.

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I want to know if watson construction is a local company. >> they are based out of newberry.

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so they are local to alachua county, they're not just incorporated into the city limits.

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>> that's what a I'm looking for, alachua county or gainesville that we're using a local company.

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mr. Mayor, I will move staff's recommendation. >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second to

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approve the recommendation. Commissioner arreola. [inaudible] >> mayor: madam clerk, do you

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have anybody signed up to speak to this item? [inaudible] okay.

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01:48:18,659 --> 01:48:27,659
>> hello. Jo beatty. This was on the consent agenda. I'm glad it was pulled off.

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I don't understand you commissioners approving something like $16 million and trying to approve it on the

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consent agenda. This was an excellent presentation. As I've said before when I keep

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asking to have things pulled off the consent agenda, it's not always that they are controversial, it's that we're

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paying for it. When somebody sees $16 million being paid on the consent agenda, no discussion, no

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questions, no presentation, it's wrong. One of you when you ran for office said where is the

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transparency. I spoke to you. This is mr. Arreola, by the way, he's going to bring us

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transparency. Never once have you really helped get things off the consent agenda and made things

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transparent for the public. I was notably to be here for the consent agenda. This was an excellent

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presentation. Where the connectors are, you want people off I-75. I discovered one by accident.

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I went down the street. Where does this go? Came out on archer road. Wow.

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if you did this more and presentations like this more, what you were doing, how you are spending your money -- sometimes

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how you are misspending it -- things like this would only benefit people. Benefit you, the traffic.

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the more people that know this is the map and we have connectors and you can bypass dangerous I-75, it's going to

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happen. You're not helping educate people and you're not being transparent.

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I think you need to look at your rules. Commissioners, you need to stop allowing things to just be

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put -- that are not routine to just be put on the consent agenda. You have times when I've asked

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you to pull off a list of the meetings you were going to have. You're passing your calendar on the consent agenda or passing

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that you got an award. That's nice for the public to know. So some of these things as

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agenda items are really to inform the public and to let us know, give us an opportunity if we disagree.

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it doesn't make sense. I would ask you to all listen to this. I think you should listen to mr.

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chestnut the other day and he apologized for not scrutinizing the consent agenda more. >> mayor: thank you, miss

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beatty. Anybody else signed up to speak to this? Commissioner ward?

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>> thank you. I don't entirely disagree with miss beaty on much of the substance.

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it's important to know we've had hours of discussion on this project. This is not new.

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this is the final award of the bid. Tpo and commission meeting over the course of four years, we've

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had many, many hours of discussion. It goes way back. There you go.

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this is not a new item. There have been many hours of discussion on whether or not to do it more than once and what

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path it would take more than once and the complexity of having to acquire right-of-way and all that sort of thing.

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I'm pleased that we are nearing the end of the project. But please don't think that this very serious project just popped

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up and got dropped off on the consent agenda, because there have been many, many hours of discussion on it over the years.

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thank you. >> mayor: mrs. Duncan-walker. >> mr. Mayor, I want to say thank you to staff for a really,

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really nice presentation and the work that is about to be done that is surely to give us a safer alternative.

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I just really appreciate you. Thank you for indulging me today and showing the public what it is we're about to enter into.

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thank you. >> mayor: commissioner saco. >> I want to thank staff. It's such a good presentation,

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even if he hadn't been there to give it, even being in the back you could follow along. Not everybody has to get the

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information on the meeting, they can go online to all the transparent materials and read it, whenever they have team, if

726
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they can't make the meeting, find the reporting. This video is pretty hard to download and have the bandwidth

727
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for that. You can find it online and follow along with all the materials.

728
01:53:34,641 --> 01:53:44,351
I think staff made a really accessible acceptable follow along with really good maps and step by step explanation.

729
01:53:44,351 --> 01:53:51,358
so thank you very much for making that accessible in the meeting and off the meeting. Thank you, mr. Mayor.

730
01:53:51,358 --> 01:53:56,797
>> mayor: thank you. I'm just grateful we're at the end of this process. As you said, it's been 15 years.

731
01:53:56,797 --> 01:54:06,797
we spent -- every since I've been an elected official, which is about 15 years, hundreds of hours of public discussion.

732
01:54:09,676 --> 01:54:19,520
it involved massive amounts of community involvement. The chamber was very involved. Our legislative delegation was

733
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:23,523
very involved. It was not easy. There were many controversial points that we had to work

734
01:54:23,523 --> 01:54:32,432
ourselves through. And to the folks that will be sitting here over the two years of this project will be under

735
01:54:32,432 --> 01:54:42,432
construction, you will get more -- you will get some -- once roads start getting shut down and people's lives start

736
01:54:42,809 --> 01:54:50,217
getting disrupted, you'll continue to hear about it. But I'm glad that we're to the point of awarding the bid.

737
01:54:50,217 --> 01:55:00,217
I'm glad it's going to a local company. You know, so much work has gone into getting it to this point.

738
01:55:02,396 --> 01:55:12,396
thank you all and look forward to letting the next group do the ribbon cutting, or whatever, dirt moving, whatever it is

739
01:55:12,539 --> 01:55:17,377
that's going to happen. Commissioner arreola. >> I was just going to add to the history.

740
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I remember there was a time when it was almost not going to happen. This commission rallied together

741
01:55:25,318 --> 01:55:30,791
and was able to get one of the county commissioners to swing their vote. Here it is now.

742
01:55:30,791 --> 01:55:38,965
so sometimes things come down to just one elected official voting, but it obviously takes a team effort to make sure that

743
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these things actually happen and shovels get moving dirt. So looking forward to it. Actually used to joke the first

744
01:55:47,374 --> 01:55:55,480
time I became aware of local government as an entity was when I was driving on 62nd boulevard back in high school wondering

745
01:55:55,480 --> 01:56:05,480
who is in charge of this road. It's just falling apart. Now here we get to see its nature.

746
01:56:07,294 --> 01:56:10,300
thank you. >> mayor: all in favor of the motion say aye. [ chorus of ayes ]

747
01:56:10,300 --> 01:56:16,630
opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Our next item is d5. >> that's right.

748
01:56:20,273 --> 01:56:29,273
[ reading d5 ] to the amount of $400,000. Authorize manager to execute the agreement, amendments and any

749
01:56:40,961 --> 01:56:50,961
other documents for solar powered litter and containers, online monitoring, subject to approval by the city and

750
01:56:53,440 --> 01:57:01,840
legality. >> good morning. These are solar powered litter containers that we plan to place

751
01:57:01,915 --> 01:57:10,257
around the community. They compact, so we get up to three times more litter in them, which reduces our collecting

752
01:57:10,257 --> 01:57:15,280
cost. I'm sure you're familiar with them. We have quite a few in the

753
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midtown area and downtown area. A few years back, couple of years back, we presented a plan to zero waste subcommittee

754
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giving an idea of where we're going to place these. We're not just going to put them in midtown and downtown.

755
01:57:27,641 --> 01:57:34,281
we've identified other areas outside of those places that attract litter and have significant amounts of litter,

756
01:57:34,281 --> 01:57:39,786
pedestrian traffic and things like that. We probably will revisit that a little bit.

757
01:57:39,786 --> 01:57:45,910
litter does kind of tend to move around a little bit. Those are our goals and intentions.

758
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>> mayor: okay. Thank you. Any questions from the commission or is there a motion?

759
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commissioner hayes-santos. >> move staff recommendation. >> second. >> move and second.

760
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madam clerk, anybody signed up to speak to this item? Okay. Come on up.

761
01:58:03,176 --> 01:58:13,176
thank you. >> once again, jo beaty. I'm going to need the overhead. When did the city commission

762
01:58:18,291 --> 01:58:28,291
approve this going up for bid? Was there ever a decision by this body that we needed solar-powered trash containers?

763
01:58:31,370 --> 01:58:36,643
>> mayor: we've been looking at waste collection for a long time. I don't know the specific dates.

764
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>> it was before this commission, and there was a majority vote for solar waste collection bins?

765
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>> mayor: I cannot speak to a specific. >> no, you can't, because there probably wasn't.

766
01:58:52,325 --> 01:59:02,325
okay. First of all, has anybody ever looked up these big belly waste bins to see other people's

767
01:59:02,435 --> 01:59:10,110
experience? You know, this seems to me -- I guess you don't want to answer any of my questions.

768
01:59:10,110 --> 01:59:18,218
I just was reviewing the agenda last night. When I saw this, I was like let me see what these are.

769
01:59:18,218 --> 01:59:21,755
first of all, you could rent them. You're buying them, as I understand.

770
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you're buying them with the maintenance agreement, a bid for $307 five essentially. You're now going to authorize

771
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$400,000, almost a 33% increase. But looking them up, they are not all -- first of all, here is a picture out of commission with

772
01:59:47,113 --> 01:59:56,113
another waste bin there. It takes up a lot of sidewalk room. There's another picture.

773
01:59:56,623 --> 02:00:05,230
in this article, recycling fails. A mix of garbage and recycling getting picked up.

774
02:00:06,299 --> 02:00:13,873
as part of your process, have you included the downtown business owners to see if this was good?

775
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do you know the negatives of this? Do you know the maintenance problems?

776
02:00:19,979 --> 02:00:29,979
I guess it's things like this, you know, you got the letter from deo about the way you got the decision on zoning.

777
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I told you tonight that I saw that that decision was made. I told you, if you read their letter, what they are talking

778
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about, this is the way you make all decisions. You don't ask questions. You put it off on the consent

779
02:00:43,269 --> 02:00:50,810
agenda. My time is going to run out. But you know, do this outin the open.

780
02:00:50,810 --> 02:00:56,182
please, I would appreciate it if commissioners wouldn't try to negate citizens comments and spin it.

781
02:00:56,182 --> 02:01:06,182
if I had not asked for that to be pulled, if that was not on the regular agenda, you wouldn't have had the opportunity to log

782
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staff for the years of work. Just because it's been done for years. >> mayor: thank you.

783
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thank you. Thank you. >> somebody is looking at the agenda for the first time and

784
02:01:14,901 --> 02:01:20,707
you guys are not transparent. >> mayor: thank you very much. Thank you. Commissioner ward.

785
02:01:20,707 --> 02:01:30,707
>> thank you, mr. Mayor. So when we are accused of doing the wrong thing, it is important to let the public know that that

786
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information may not be entirely accurate. To this particular item, as was mentioned earlier, the zero

787
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waste subcommittee had an extensive on this. I think it was september of 2021.

788
02:01:51,938 --> 02:02:01,548
I might not be correct on that, it's off the top of my head. We had an extensive discussion right here on the commission.

789
02:02:01,548 --> 02:02:06,653
it went into the 2022 fiscal budget. There were remarks about it then as well.

790
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this is not brand-new. It simply is not. We have had extensive discussions about it, staff did

791
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extensive work on it. It was in the public and it is on video. I appreciate that you found a

792
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municipality in australia that had some difficulties with it. I'm glad that was made available to us.

793
02:02:30,343 --> 02:02:40,343
yes, research was done on this. What's exciting about it is we're talking about putting litter containers in locations

794
02:02:40,420 --> 02:02:47,860
where they have not been before. If that is not beneficial to the community, I don't understand something.

795
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I think this is positive and we have had discussions about it. It's fine to disagree. But to say that we have not is

796
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simply not accurate. I will correct that at every possible opportunity. Thank you.

797
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>> mayor: commissioner hayes-santos. >> thank you, mayor. We already have these in our

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downtown. We have extensive experience with it with our staff and with our community.

799
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I know one by starbucks on the southeast 1st street but there's multiple ones throughout our community already.

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also want to touch on the consent agenda. We're not a small city. We have hundreds of millions of

801
02:03:29,936 --> 02:03:39,379
dollars in budget. We can't have a presentation on every single item or we will get nothing done.

802
02:03:39,379 --> 02:03:46,619
we will -- everything is already 10 hours, the days worth of meetings we have presentations on every single item.

803
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I think items that are controversial or there's people that don't want to vote for them, those are the ones to pull

804
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but we can't pull every single item or we will shut down the city. Thank you.

805
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>> mayor: thank you. Madam clerk, call for a vote. All in favor of the motion say [ chorus of ayes ]

806
02:04:05,872 --> 02:04:10,743
all opposed? Motion passes unanimously. All right. We have reached the end of our

807
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business for this morning. >> mayor: all right good afternoon. We're going to call this meeting

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back to order. Regular city commission meeting, september 15th, 2022. And madam clerk, I will turn it

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over to you. >> I believe our first item is early public comment. >> mayor: do we have anybody

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signed up for early public comment? >> I do have one name for early public comment.

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I'm not sure if it's for the morning issue -- already spoken? Oh, hi. >> mayor: speak from the heart.

812
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[laughter] >> sorry. >> so sheila pane with the labor coalition.

813
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we helped push through the rental rights ordinance, and I apologize, I am in the middle of cutting up a tree --

814
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>> mayor: which item are you speaking towards? >> n-1. I'm in the middle of cutting up

815
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a tree, it fell down in one of my client's yards. So good thing I didn't have one of y'all's [choppy audio].

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so, up because it was something that kind of didn't get taken up when all the other property renters' rights ordinance was

817
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being passed. And it's become more and more apparent, especially during covid, that it's super

818
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important. And when we met with you all the last few years, you all said that your security deposits and

819
02:05:34,861 --> 02:05:44,237
other issues had been stolen, no one ever gets it back. And, I hope this is mediation process between landlords and

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tenants will be robust enough to cover other issues also that come up between landlords and tenants.

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that will keep it from going into the courts. Because, tenants just give up at that point.

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and my last -- so I'm hoping it can have the kind of robust element that like the wage recovery, wage theft ordinance

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had. They've collected over $100,000, and they predict that perhaps twice as much as that was

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recovered, since when employers are contacted, and they know they're in the wrong, they just go ahead and pay without it even

825
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going through. And pine ridge. This has come up a lot. So, when all that stuff with

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pine ridge, ongoing thing that we need and organize with the tenants there. They, when the last landlord

827
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sold those 84 units, they had no -- nothing was passed on, so there would be no record if they paid.

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even if they were trying to figure out if they needed to move from pine ridge they did not have a way to recover their

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security deposit. There was no lease, and they're in a bad problem. I talked to miss geneva this

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week. She couldn't get some stuff because she can't prove. So for people that have to pay

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for another security deposit, first and last, when they already have it somewhere, keep them in bad housing.

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that's what we're finding out at pine ridge. They don't have another security deposit to come up with.

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so thank you very much. >> mayor: thank you, ms. Pane. Anybody else kind up for early public comment?

834
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okay. Then we will move on to general public comment. >> we have ms. Jo beaty.

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>> good day again. Two things. I read with dismay the article about the arrest of somebody for

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alleged e-mails and threats and stuff. Read the articles. And in there, this person

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clearly said he suffers from ptsd, was a war veteran, and I don't understand. You sit there and pass ordinance

838
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so the homeless anywhere in this whole town can have an open container anywhere because you don't want people getting

839
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arrested over things like that. You have civil citation so people who have pot and small enough pot, young people don't

840
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get an arrest record early on. So you also have a mental health team with the police department and I don't understand why a

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good upstanding person in the community is arrested when clearly he says he's got ptsd. It seems to me that you've got a

842
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mental health team that, why does he need to be arrested, and have a mug shot and stuff, why is he not granted similar kinds

843
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of privileges? You know he could have been baker acted. To see if he was really in a

844
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mentally stressed, you have a mental health team that could go out. And I don't understand, you

845
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know, for the hypocrisy of the way the city works, and the way you work and allow these things to happen.

846
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so, I would really like to hear a little bit of comment on that and I'd like to never see something like this again.

847
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I'm sure this probably happens often. It may be that this person frequently speaks against some

848
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of the things you all would like to see rushed through. But I'll stop on that. I wish you'd think about it.

849
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I'd sure like to hear you discuss how something like that goes on in this welcoming city. The other thing is that I really

850
02:10:08,534 --> 02:10:17,309
have a problem with, you know, every time citizens speak, we've got to have it spun by the commissioners.

851
02:10:17,309 --> 02:10:27,309
you can't just accept our comments. You determine what the truth is. Commissioner ward who soon hopes

852
02:10:28,454 --> 02:10:38,454
to be our mayor needs to set the record straight. You know, I ask for things to be off the consent agenda not for

853
02:10:39,650 --> 02:10:48,808
myself, but for the public. You certainly took the opportunity, when things were pulled, to thank staff and that.

854
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look at these things as an opportunity and a public service announcement. We pay your salary.

855
02:10:53,713 --> 02:11:00,219
we pay the taxes. We pay for these projects. >> mayor: thank you ms. Beaty. >> please be more considerate of

856
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the citizens. >> our next speaker is tana silva. >> hello.

857
02:11:10,763 --> 02:11:20,763
of all the many items on today's agenda the most consequential issue is why isn't the commission discussing the letter

858
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from the state deo and the three options it outlines and the objections it raises. The mayor is not an executive.

859
02:11:28,547 --> 02:11:33,753
seven people are elected to represent the city with equal votes. The mayor has no authority to

860
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decide issues like this. Experience tells me the mayor has an explanation of some kind, and commissioners and staff will

861
02:11:43,950 --> 02:11:49,568
let it go. Please don't. The letter gives the commission opportunity to finally open a

862
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long overdue, honest discussion of equitable development. In the process the commission can set an example of respectful

863
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dialogue. We've experienced the opposite. And I'll spare everyone some recent examples.

864
02:12:05,818 --> 02:12:15,494
don't be afraid of difference. On and off the dais. That's part of your job. So, I would appreciate an answer

865
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to my question, really two questions. One is, the city sent a mistaken document on the first round.

866
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doesn't that restart the review clock? And the second question is, when will the commission discuss the

867
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state deo letter and respond to it as a body of representative elected officials? >> mayor: madam clerk?

868
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>> I believe this is johnny booth? >> hello. Sovereign -- king johnny booth.

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-- notice reminder about the campaign, human trafficking, through star and through notice. Through notice goes out through

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the constituents for like the 116 congressional parliamentary congress, which is now known as the 107th king parliamentary

871
02:13:27,233 --> 02:13:37,233
congress for like notice you know, notice at any kind that states decide that genocide is people in any kind of way.

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I also talk about the reshaping the president -- the present in order to cause a better grander future.

873
02:13:47,453 --> 02:13:57,453
not the whole going over the past acting government, what confuse from the old past [indiscernible] within this

874
02:13:59,531 --> 02:14:07,931
past. Now, florida, seminole, swamp plains, territory, known as a sovereign state, not an

875
02:14:11,176 --> 02:14:18,250
independent state. I was just wondering how long was florida going to go along with the rest of what's going on

876
02:14:18,250 --> 02:14:28,250
with the united states where they are under that notice since 2012. I just want to see constituents

877
02:14:28,494 --> 02:14:35,340
work more on what's really on their agenda and stuff. I hear everyone complaining about all this other stuff but

878
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they got all these agencies that just want to take all these other complaints, too. Which is why I do believe that

879
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you did create all these other agencies within the start-up of the united states. Thank you.

880
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>> mayor: thank you. Madam clerk? Okay. Thank you.

881
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for the person who got arrested, that was a decision made between the state attorney and the gainesville police department.

882
02:15:07,633 --> 02:15:16,375
it was not a city ordinance. It was a state statute that was violated so we'll leave that up to the court to determine and

883
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the issues addressed in the letter from deo will be part of a discussion october 4th at a special meeting for the second

884
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reading of the comp plan amendment. With that, madam clerk? That the issues in a letter from

885
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deo will be addressed at the october 4th special meeting. Madam clerk? >> our next item is l-1,

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quasi-judicial final plat for oaks preserve phase two a cluster subdivision 2022-488. A resolution of the city of

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gainesville, florida, approving the final plat name oaks preserve phase two, a cluster subdivision located in the

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vicinity of 5105 southwest archer road, gainesville, florida, as more specifically described in this resolution,

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authorizing the city manager to execute a security agreement to secure required public improvements, accepting the

890
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dedication of the public rights-of-way easements and other dedicated portions as shown on the plat, providing

891
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directions to the city clerk and providing an immediate effective date. >> mayor: mr. Castillo, welcome.

892
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:26,578
>> good afternoon, mayor and commissioners. For the record my name is juan castillo.

893
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I'm a planner with the department of sustainable development. I'd like to begin by

894
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apologizing. Came to my attention today that there were three items not part of the backups associated with

895
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this item. Those are three images for the plats itself. That we'll be discussing.

896
02:16:44,930 --> 02:16:51,804
those images are in my presentation. And I have them here physically. But again, those would be part

897
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of my presentation, as well. So the item before you this afternoon is the proposal for the final plat for the oaks

898
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preserve cluster subdivision phase two. And it is the second part following the adoption of the

899
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oaks preserve cluster subdivision design plat. The first phase was approved back in june 17th of 2021.

900
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so the property in question is located west of southwest 50th terrace between southwest archer road, and southwest 57th avenue.

901
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phase two is the portion, the southernmost portion of the proposed -- that is this portion right here.

902
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you can see it more clearly here. This is what we will be talking about today.

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here you can see the phase one which is the northern most portion of the cluster subdivision.

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making that connection with archer road, and the second phase which is the item before you today.

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the proposal is 33.36 acres in the size, and is adding 115 residential lots to the area. Most of the uses in the area

906
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[choppy audio]. Here, you have a more zoomed in version of the northerly part of the proposal before you today.

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this shows the connection to phase one, which is part of the cluster subdivision that makes the connection with archer road.

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as well as the connections to abutting properties, and the majority of the residential lots being proposed today.

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this is another zoomed in version, kind of moving towards the middle more. Here you start seeing the

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southern connection and the majority of the single lot residential cluster right here, along with connections to

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02:19:25,357 --> 02:19:33,757
abutting properties. Lastly this is the southernmost part of the cluster subdivision phase two.

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again showing connections to abutting property, remaining residential lots associated with this phase.

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with that, staff has reviewed the proposal before you this afternoon, and finds that it is consistent with the approved

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design plat, along with the city's comprehensive plan, planning development code, zoning regulations and technical

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02:20:04,162 --> 02:20:12,304
reviews for public works, gru, fire and environmental. Thank you so much for your time, and I am here and available for

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any questions you may have. >> mayor: all right. Thank you very much, mr. Castillo.

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commissioner hayes-santos? >> thank you, I move resolution 22-488. >> mayor: motion and a second to

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adopt the proposed resolution. Madam clerk is there anyone signed up to speak to this item? Okay then we will move back to

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the commission for a roll call vote. >> commissioner saco? An sent.

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02:20:34,226 --> 02:20:36,862
commissioner hayes-santos? >> aye. >> commissioner ward? >> aye.

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>> commissioner arreola? Commissioner chestnut? >> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker?

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>> aye. >> mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously

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with saco absent. And madam clerk, before you read the next item into the record, I apologize, I told mr. Fulton

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that he could introduce a new member of his staff, and I forgot to do that before we got to our business items.

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but I'm super excited about this introduction. Because, well I know what an incredible that we're getting.

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and we are so lucky as a city to have him as part of our team. Mr. Fulton, if you'll do the honors.

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>> thank you, mayor and commissioners. I wanted to come in and introduce a new member of our

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staff in the office of inclusion. We've had the opportunity to continue to build about the

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skills of the staff here in the office, and so we had a compliance investigator position that came open, had applicants

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apply and we've selected our next compliance investigator allows us to be able to do as I shared with you many times in

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private, inreach and outreach activity in terms of training as well as get our cases handled quicker in a more sufficient

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amount of time. And so the recent why I want to bring this to you as well is because zhu is a former reichert

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house kid. He's a gentleman that this city has supported, and so to have a reichert house kid come home,

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and I'm going to let him tell you his story, but to allow him to be part of our family in an employee capacity I'm excited to

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do it. Without further ado I'd like him to share a few words. >> mayor: thank you.

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good to have you. >> thank you. Thank you, commissioners. Thank you myer.

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my name is zhu. I am here from gainesville. I grew up here. My brother also is here locally.

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he's a local police officer. We both attended the reichert house growing up. And that program was very

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02:22:46,458 --> 02:22:53,965
beneficial to our life, and to our upbringing. Our father was not present with us, so, we had various male

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mentors in our life to kind of steer and guide and direct us in the right direction so we can become productive citizens

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within our city and our county. After graduating from the east side, I eventually attended the university of florida, and I

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02:23:09,848 --> 02:23:18,657
went on to go to law school at uf. After law school I went to work for a private firm for one year.

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and there was a position open at the state attorney's office and I was glad to take that position and come back to my local

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community. And I served in that role for seven years at the state attorney's office prosecuting

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02:23:30,202 --> 02:23:37,309
felony cases. And I was happy when the opportunity presented for me to do some work in equity.

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02:23:37,309 --> 02:23:44,150
one of my passions is civil rights. Which is one of the reasons why I went to law school to do some

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02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:50,355
civil rights work. So I'm excited to be here with the city and help out as much as I can and be involved in our

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city, as much as I can. >> mayor: thank you. And -- ma'am, we don't allow cheers or jeers in the chamber.

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thank you. Despite having a mediocre economics and government professor in your time out at

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santa fe you somehow persevered through all of that to accomplish incredible things. And I'm just so thankful you're

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bringing your experiences to our city, and specifically to the department of equity and inclusion, you're going to be a

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tremendous addition and asset, and we just hope that you really enjoy your time here. So it's good to have you

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introduced to the larger community. >> thank you. >> mayor: thank you.

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all right, thank you mr. Folston. Appreciate you taking the time to do that.

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all right, madam clerk next item. >> l-2, quasi-judicial final plat for grand oaks at tower

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phase three, a cluster subdivision 2022-504. A resolution of the city of gainesville, florida, approving

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the final plat name grand oaks at tower phase three, a cluster subdivision located in the vicinity of southwest 17th road

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and southwest 68th terrace. Gainesville, florida, as more specifically described in this resolution, authorizing the city

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manager to execute a security agreement to secure required public improvements, accepting dedication of the public rights

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of way, easements and other dedicated portions as shown on the plat, providing directions to the city clerk and providing

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an immediate effective date. >> mayor: all right, thank you. Welcome. >> thank you, mayor,

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commissioners, forrest eddleton, the acting director of the department of sustainable development.

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and I've also had the pleasure of working as sort of one of the planners in a long line of distinguished planners that have

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worked on this project. Started off with andrew persons working on it for the design plat, and then, of course,

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planner lawrence calderon worked on this for several of the other phases. So, it is an honor to be able to

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sort of step in to this one, and continue it here in the third phase. So this is grand oaks at tower.

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this is the third phase of a development that you all I'm sure are familiar with. This has been going on for quite

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some time. So the phase that we are looking at today is this top phase here. It's 83 lots, about 24 acres,

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and it is the continuance of phase one and phase two that you all have seen before. As you see on your screen here,

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this started with the design phase back in 2018. Which was approved by the drb, the development review board.

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went on to be approved by the city commission in the design plat stage, and phase one and phase two have also been

972
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reviewed and approved by this body. So this is the survey of the entire area you'll see on this

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screen. The northern phase here. We have g-2 and g-3 which show you in more detail the lots up

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close. And of course, as you are all familiar, really, this is the final plat approval stage, as I

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said, comes in a long line of reviews and approvals that have happened over time. And, the staff's really

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responsibility for this final plat stage is to review it for compliance and consistency -- consistency with the

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construction plans that have been reviewed and approved by several agencies and departments and staff, and of course, that

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those construction plans are in consistency and compliance with the design plat, the comprehensive plan, and the land

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development code. So with that, staff finds that this phase three does meet the requirements and standards of

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the comprehensive plan, and development code, and is consistent with the previous phases and the design plat.

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and are recommending approval. >> mayor: okay. Thank you very much. Commissioner hayes-santos?

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>> thank you, mayor, I move ordinance 2022-504. >> second. >> mayor: thank you, motion and

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second to adopt the proposed resolution. Madam clerk, anybody signed up to speak to this item?

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okay. Then move back to the commission for a roll call vote. >> commissioner ward?

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>> aye. >> commissioner chestnut? >> aye. >> commissioner saco?

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>> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker? >> aye. >> commissioner arreola?

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>> aye. >> commissioner hayes-santos? >> aye. >> and mayor poe?

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>> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously. Next item, please. >> resolution number 2022-346,

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sixth budget amendment to fiscal year 2022 general government financial and operating plan budget, with a recommendation

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that the commission adopt the proposed resolution. >> mayor: okay, madam manager. >> okay, members of the

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commission, this item is the sixth budget amendment for fiscal year 2022 operating budget.

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susan boyd is here, acting budget manager. This item went to finance committee on august 31st, and it

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was recommended for approval -- for consideration and approval by this body today. And with that, ms. Boyd?

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>> good afternoon. This is -- >> mayor: I'm sorry to interrupt, can you pull that mic

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up a little? >> this is the sixth amendment to our fiscal year '22 general government financial operating

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plan. The last amendment was done in april, on april 21st of this year.

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and I'm just going to kind of summarize things. General fund amendments, revenue appropriations of $630,000, this

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included $230,000 from the florida department of corrections for the inspire program with the police

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department which funds four violence interrupter positions. It was also -- sorry, general capital project funding.

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expenditures under this were movement of some funds from public works, which should have been capital for some hvac,

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02:29:53,840 --> 02:30:00,258
roofing, plumbing and electrical work. And then there was $40,000 that was allocated for the busing

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02:30:00,258 --> 02:30:06,858
program. Expenditure adjustments between departments included $150,000 for some extended assistance for

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the finalizing [choppy audio] between departments for positions that were made from different departments back and

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forth. This also included the addition of 5.5 new positions. City manager had added a special

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events coordinator and communications and assistant director and the city auditor, this was dilution of a position.

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this is one that she had previously added as her charter authorization at the beginning of the year, and after some

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looking at it decided she didn't want to move forward with that so we were removing that. The compliance manager and

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equity and inclusion and then four positions that were approved by the city commission. Special revenue fund amendments.

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this included allocations of approximately $800 in the american rescue plan, and then some funding from the

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transportation mobility program. Sorry. So the expenditures for american rescue there was roughly 7.8.

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there was funding to new programs and then some funding for some programs that's closed, and then reallocated to

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different programs. This also included $1.1 million that was tmpa funding for the 62nd boulevard arterial

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connector, and some weatherproofing at the parking garage. And also $250,000 for a

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southwest 62nd boulevard rts hub. And then $90,000 for medieval fair.

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under special revenue, there was allocation of $1 is.2 million in new awards and grants, and then reconciliation of some grants to

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reduce the fund balance by 1.2. New grants included 10.6 million for the fta for the bus and bus facilities for east side

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transfer station, and $300,000 from fta for the american rescue plan as well as planning restoration with rts.

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under debt service we allocated an additional $38,000 of interest earnings for those funds.

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and under capital projects we utilized the fund balance and transfer between multiple projects for about $4.2 million.

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this also included $1.7, which was funding that's transferred from various different projects for additional funding required

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for southwest 62nd boulevard. This includes $683,000 for a couple of wild spaces, public places programs.

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and let's see, under the proprietary funds, enterprise funds, this was rts this was funding for a vehicle, and also

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we had corrections to the fund balance from previous. And we returned some funds to fund balance.

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under internal service, we had allocation of primarily this allocation of 842,000 for operating expenses for fleet,

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and then there was an addition of 695,000 from other departments for purchase of various vehicles.

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and that was it in the budget amendment. Then we had, ms. Curry handed this to you guys, we had a

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revision to this, we were requesting to amendment attachment a to move $52,700 from the feasibility studies

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under the arpa program into the human rights coalition program. >> if I may, members of the commission, this is a revision

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to attachment "a" on page 7 specifically the human rights coalition was initially allocated $35,000 by the board.

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we are asking for a revision for that to be up creased to $87,713 directed from the commission a couple of meetings or so ago in

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order to accommodate that in the arpa funding and we are asking that the feasibility study line be reduced from 250 to 197,288.

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>> mayor: okay, thank you madam clerk -- I mean madam manager. Ms. Boyd thank you, I appreciate the presentation.

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turn to commissioner arreola. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. Thank you. I'd like to go ahead and move

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that we adopt resolution 2022-346. >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second to

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adopt the amended budget resolution with the updated attachment "a" that the city manager just referred to.

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commissioner chestnut? >> thank you. This amendment is part of the whole resolution?

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>> mayor: yes, ma'am. >> okay. Well, I want to vote against this amendment because of the

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manner in which it was done. At the end of the budget process, we moving forward, this particular entity has not been

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recommended for funding. There were other people that have come to us for funding that -- who were not recommended

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by -- agency and they were turned down. I just don't like the way this was done, preferential treatment

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for one group but not all and I don't think that was fair. It's not fair to the taxpayer. It's not fair at all.

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so thank you. >> mayor: okay, thank you commissioner chestnut. Madam clerk, do we have folks

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signed up to speak to this item? Okay. Then, this is a roll call vote. Madam clerk?

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>> commissioner hayes-santos? >> no. >> commissioner ward? >> aye.

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>> commissioner chestnut? >> no. >> commissioner arreola? >> aye.

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>> commissioner duncan-walker? >> no. >> commissioner saco? >> aye.

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>> and mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. That motion passes 4-3 with hayes-santos, duncan-walker and

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chestnut in dissent. Next item, please? >> our next item is land use change of 13.943 acres of

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property located northeast of the intersection of southwest williston road and southwest 13th street and west of

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southwest 13th street and 36th place. Ordinance 211146 a-an ordinance of the city of gainesville

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florida amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan by changing the land use category of approximately 13.943

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acres generally located northeast of the intersection of southwest williston road and southwest 13th street and west

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of southwest 13th street and south of southwest 36th place more specifically described in this ordinance, the city of

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gainesville urban mixed-use, providing directions to the city manager, providing a severability clause, providing a

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repealing clause and providing an effective date. >> mayor: thank you. Mr. Simmons?

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>> mr. Mayor, commissioners, I believe that item was moved to the evening agenda because of a notification.

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I have an agenda -- >> mayor: is that correct, madam clerk? Per our update?

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we did move a couple things I know. N-1? >> mayor: okay.

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thank you, mr. Simmons. All right. Then next item, please. >> item -- our next item is n-1,

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ordinance amending the residential rental unit permit program, ordinance number 211438-a.

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an ordinance of the city of gainesville, florida, amending the residential rental unit permit program by amending

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chapter 14.5, article one titled residential rental unit program providing directions to the codifier, providing a

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severability clause, providing a repealing clause and providing an effective date. >> mayor: okay.

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thank you this is the second reading. Commissioner hayes-santos? >> thank you.

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mayor, after our last meeting, at that last meeting we gave direction to staff to draft some amendments, adding the rental

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mediation program and also adding some checklist. With the aclc, and state attorney's office to have a

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version of that, and I would like to move ordinance 211439-a, and the version. >> second.

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>> mayor: okay motion and a second. And can you read the attachment? Number in the backup so we --

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>> 022 -- >> 220- -- >> it's second reading -- >> mayor: okay.

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[inaudible] okay so it says "a" on here mr. Attorney pip just want to make sure for the record we're

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referring to the right version. >> the version I think that's been moved would be the one that was added by commissioner

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hayes-santos with the slight modification to the first reading [inaudible] reading we endeavored to encapsulate those

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revisions, and I think [inaudible] commissioner hayes-santos of the agenda, which is the -- motion.

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>> mayor: is it possible for you to pull that up? Madam clerk? Supposed to call during dinner

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time. Yeah, if that's faster. Madam clerk, the attorney has a paper copy.

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I think it's important if there are modifications before the second reading that we show them clearly.

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okay, so no changes on that page. I think page three is where -- >> that was the first of the two

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changes. Right, commissioner? >> yes. >> mayor: yeah, I think --

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>> taken out the requirement to also attach the entirety of the ordinance itself. Concern with that with the just

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sort of an overload [inaudible] and the other slight change -- >> mayor: page 6, line 203. >> the noncodified part of the

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ordinance, section 3. The effective date of the ordinance -- shall create [inaudible]

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>> mayor: thank you. Just want to put it on for the agenda. Commissioner hayes-santos made a

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motion to adopt the ordinance as amended, that we just were presented. And that is included in the

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02:41:47,231 --> 02:41:53,300
backup as the hayes-santos version. Who was the seconder of that? Okay.

1085
02:41:53,300 --> 02:42:01,478
saco was the second. Madam clerk, who do we have signed up to speak today? No one.

1086
02:42:01,478 --> 02:42:08,678
>> our first speaker followed by jen powell, followed by tyler ford. >> hello.

1087
02:42:10,870 --> 02:42:15,159
I wanted to mention that the affected parties do not know about this. People were just sent their

1088
02:42:15,159 --> 02:42:19,530
landlord permits a few weeks ago. And there could have been a notice in there saying that

1089
02:42:19,530 --> 02:42:25,603
there was a revised ordinance being discussed. Nobody knows about this. It's just a fluke that I saw

1090
02:42:25,603 --> 02:42:31,442
that on today's agenda. And it could have been easily included. So I think this is improper

1091
02:42:31,442 --> 02:42:38,649
because the affected parties do not know about it. And yet they were build $140, instead of $122 like last year,

1092
02:42:38,649 --> 02:42:43,320
for their permits. And it could have been included. So there's no excuse not to include it.

1093
02:42:43,320 --> 02:42:49,660
I also want to know, is air conditioning, central air conditioning required by code? I don't think it is.

1094
02:42:49,660 --> 02:42:56,267
and yet you're requiring people who do spend several thousand dollars to put programmable thermostats in.

1095
02:42:56,267 --> 02:43:02,573
I tried that, and it's too complicated. So we're spending $50, and then we're told the tenant doesn't

1096
02:43:02,573 --> 02:43:11,181
want it. Why are you telling what kind of permits -- what kind of programmable need to be put in?

1097
02:43:11,181 --> 02:43:17,321
I think that's improper and should not be required. Also you're requiring us to have an air conditioning man look at

1098
02:43:17,321 --> 02:43:21,992
every two years. For those of you who are homeowners, do you have an air conditioner man look at yours

1099
02:43:21,992 --> 02:43:27,131
every two years? They're going to know that it's required, and they're going to say oh, it's $100 for 15

1100
02:43:27,131 --> 02:43:32,903
minutes, if that much. I think that's wrong, as well. In terms of showerheads. You're revising that in the new

1101
02:43:32,903 --> 02:43:39,503
ordinance. Showerheads and faucet aerators. In the old ordinance it said 2.2.

1102
02:43:41,111 --> 02:43:46,650
that doesn't even exist in gainesville. I had a friend buy 20 online and now it's changed to 2.5.

1103
02:43:46,650 --> 02:43:52,122
because he was following the old ordinance. Now this is -- it's all wrong. You're making people spend money

1104
02:43:52,122 --> 02:43:57,795
they don't have to spend. Even raising the permit to $140, you know, you say you want affordable housing.

1105
02:43:57,795 --> 02:44:03,567
and then you want housing that meets all these luxury standards. Well, which is it, affordable or

1106
02:44:03,567 --> 02:44:10,708
high priced houses? Because right away $140, to make the same amount of money, the landlord has to charge another

1107
02:44:10,708 --> 02:44:16,980
$10 or $11 a month rent. And the tenants say why are you raising our rent? I'm saying I have to do it

1108
02:44:16,980 --> 02:44:22,119
because I'm being forced to do these things. One guy I told them I have to put more insulation in your

1109
02:44:22,119 --> 02:44:27,357
attic. He said why, my insulation is great, my temperature once it gets there, it stays there.

1110
02:44:27,357 --> 02:44:33,597
I'm being forced to do that. So I'm just saying, this is not proper. People are were not noticed and

1111
02:44:33,597 --> 02:44:38,869
you're putting provisions in here that were not identical and people spent money trying to meet that and now they can't use

1112
02:44:38,869 --> 02:44:46,760
it. He actually said to me, well maybe I'll send them the box of 20 aerators and charge them.

1113
02:44:46,760 --> 02:44:52,760
>> mayor: thank you. Madam clerk? >> jen powell, followed by [indiscernible].

1114
02:44:53,217 --> 02:44:58,956
>> mayor: welcome. >> hello commissioners. My name is jen powell. I am a citizen of gainesville

1115
02:44:58,956 --> 02:45:06,330
and I am also a renter. Nobody is forcing anybody to be a landlord. That's a choice.

1116
02:45:06,330 --> 02:45:13,170
I am here to speak in support of the rental housing mediation program. I believe it's a good start, and

1117
02:45:13,170 --> 02:45:23,170
I support creating a venue for landlords and renters to resolve their dispute amicably. But city staff must inform

1118
02:45:24,815 --> 02:45:29,453
renters seeking mediation of their options in the courts if they're landlord refuses to cooperate as well as provide

1119
02:45:29,453 --> 02:45:34,591
renters with the names and numbers of free or low cost legal clinics for the vulnerable, such as three

1120
02:45:34,591 --> 02:45:39,663
rivers. Finally, city commissioners and staff should look to the county's wage recovery program

1121
02:45:39,663 --> 02:45:49,540
as a model to add teeth to this mediation program. I have been very lucky in my 25 years of being a renter in

1122
02:45:49,540 --> 02:45:54,745
gainesville. I've had some excellent landlords. None of the landlords that I

1123
02:45:54,745 --> 02:46:04,745
have had would have a problem with any of the things in this ordinance. It's just basic -- basic safety,

1124
02:46:04,922 --> 02:46:14,922
basic health, and also yes, we need to do something about the extreme electric bills that some of the properties, so, yes,

1125
02:46:15,399 --> 02:46:21,505
insulation does make a big difference. I've lived in a house with excellent insulation.

1126
02:46:21,505 --> 02:46:27,544
I've lived in a house with none and the one with none my electric bill was equivalent to my month's rent.

1127
02:46:27,544 --> 02:46:32,983
granted this is years ago, but that just was the case. So I am in support of these modifications.

1128
02:46:32,983 --> 02:46:37,221
and I feel that we could even go further than that but this is a good start. Thanks.

1129
02:46:37,221 --> 02:46:42,210
>> mayor: thank you. >> tyler forest. >> good afternoon, commissioners.

1130
02:46:48,732 --> 02:46:54,238
first, thank you for voting on this. And for passing it the first time.

1131
02:46:54,238 --> 02:47:01,511
and thank you for making these very minor adjustments, and I hope that you all vote for it again.

1132
02:47:01,511 --> 02:47:10,187
just to be clear, these are not luxury standards. These are basic housing standards that are recognized

1133
02:47:10,187 --> 02:47:17,461
across our country. Indeed, I would bet that not a single one of you would buy a house that didn't meet these

1134
02:47:17,461 --> 02:47:22,666
same standards. That's why they're deserving of everybody. Right?

1135
02:47:22,666 --> 02:47:31,208
so, also, I want to support the rental housing mediation program and note that it's a good start. But I also support creating a

1136
02:47:31,208 --> 02:47:37,848
venue for landlords and renters to resolve their disputes amicably, but city staff and commissioners must make sure to

1137
02:47:37,848 --> 02:47:45,522
inform renters seeking mediation of their options in the courts, if their landlords refuse to cooperate.

1138
02:47:45,522 --> 02:47:53,363
as well as provide renter with the names and numbers of free or low cost legal clinics for the vulnerable such as three rivers.

1139
02:47:53,363 --> 02:47:59,703
finally commissioners and staff should look to the wage recovery program as a model to add teeth to the mediation program.

1140
02:47:59,703 --> 02:48:06,543
I would just add that we learned that the wage recovery program has returned over $100,000 to the pockets of workers who were

1141
02:48:06,543 --> 02:48:10,514
robbed. So it's clearly a successful model. And I hope you'll do so.

1142
02:48:10,514 --> 02:48:20,514
thank you. >> I want to just double-check, rick stransky did you want to speak to this item?

1143
02:48:20,824 --> 02:48:28,865
>> mayor: okay. Thank you all for your thoughts. Ma'am, if you -- >> I just wanted to say that

1144
02:48:28,865 --> 02:48:34,865
section 8 demand sense electoral heating -- >> mayor: hold on. >> section 8-

1145
02:48:35,138 --> 02:48:40,777
>> mayor: ma'am. Hold on, hold on, if you want to speak to our items, right next to where you're sitting there's

1146
02:48:40,777 --> 02:48:46,650
a sign-up sheet and we'll tell you which one. You can of course speak to this one now but that's how our

1147
02:48:46,650 --> 02:48:53,490
process works. Take that card and fill it out. >> thank you. >> mayor: go ahead.

1148
02:48:53,490 --> 02:49:00,664
commissioner hayes-santos? >> yeah, thank you, mayor. I just wanted to address the showerheads and the 2.2 to 2.5.

1149
02:49:00,664 --> 02:49:07,137
the 2.5 change means it's actually higher. So you can still use a 2.2 gallon or 1.8 or anything below

1150
02:49:07,137 --> 02:49:13,137
2.5. Just can't use above 2.5. So those showerheads are still useful.

1151
02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:21,351
thank you, mayor. >> mayor: commissioner saco? >> thank you, mr. Mayor. I'm of course in support this --

1152
02:49:21,351 --> 02:49:27,758
this -- of this ordinance and the changes we've made to it. I do want to add just how important it is to have another

1153
02:49:27,758 --> 02:49:37,758
option for security deposit recovery or other issues. I helped one friend pro bono, he had left the house in better

1154
02:49:40,370 --> 02:49:47,978
shape than when he moved in, after a couple years the landlord refused to return the security deposit.

1155
02:49:47,978 --> 02:49:55,152
didn't really follow any of the regulations or statutes, statutory requirements of, tell me within so many days why I'm

1156
02:49:55,152 --> 02:50:03,994
not getting it back. So, I helped him file in court. I had to tell them that if he made less than a certain income

1157
02:50:03,994 --> 02:50:13,170
you have the option of indigent support, the courts don't often tell you there. Often folks think they have to

1158
02:50:13,170 --> 02:50:22,790
pay several hundred dollars just to recover $1,000. So programs like this at give an option to our community and an

1159
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:29,860
opportunity to be as many of our neighbors has said I think is worth whatever we are putting into it.

1160
02:50:29,860 --> 02:50:39,860
that really is invaluable to those who think they don't have an option to think that they need an attorney [choppy audio]

1161
02:50:43,667 --> 02:50:53,667
and even with an attorney advising him, filing for free, helping him look over everything that he was filing, it still

1162
02:50:55,846 --> 02:51:04,654
took nine months for this friend of mine to recover the security deposit. I think at that point, he was

1163
02:51:04,654 --> 02:51:10,727
going to use that as a security deposit in the second place. So, this is -- this is an important thing that we're

1164
02:51:10,727 --> 02:51:16,466
doing. And I hope you all -- >> mayor: thank you. Ma'am, you don't have to fill

1165
02:51:16,466 --> 02:51:22,439
out a separate card for each item if you just want to put the items you want to speak to on your card.

1166
02:51:22,439 --> 02:51:32,349
however you want to do it. Did you want to speak to this item? Sure, yeah, that's fine.

1167
02:51:32,349 --> 02:51:38,321
I saw you grab a few cards. You can do one and just put the different items on the agenda that you'd like to speak to, and

1168
02:51:38,321 --> 02:51:43,693
the clerk can call you up. If you want to speak to this item before we move on, come on up.

1169
02:51:43,693 --> 02:51:49,599
tell us who you are. >> thank you so much. Mayor poe, my name is wendy noone.

1170
02:51:49,599 --> 02:51:58,175
I'm a researcher, therapist at helping hands. So I'm a researcher. Hrs does two things.

1171
02:51:58,175 --> 02:52:08,175
one, they demand ac and heat but it doesn't need to be central. And the second thing, they demand nearly inspections to

1172
02:52:08,351 --> 02:52:13,823
care --. >> mayor: thank you. And once you have that filled out give it to the clerk here

1173
02:52:13,823 --> 02:52:23,823
and she'll call you up. Real quick, this is kind of looking down the road with this. Obviously this is a really

1174
02:52:25,350 --> 02:52:31,700
important first step. I want to thank everybody who has been really intimately involved with this process for a

1175
02:52:31,700 --> 02:52:37,681
long time, including some folks sitting up here on the dais, and out in the community, it's taken a lot of work, a lot of

1176
02:52:37,681 --> 02:52:44,921
collaborative effort. But this isn't an ending point. We're going to have to pay attention to how this is working

1177
02:52:44,921 --> 02:52:50,427
and if there are things that can be improved a year or two years down. Come back and make this

1178
02:52:50,427 --> 02:52:58,680
modification. And I think the aspect is one of those things. Once the mediation process is in

1179
02:52:58,680 --> 02:53:08,680
place, it's a lot easier to sort of add to it, and augment it. So I agree I think definitely the wage theft mod s&l a great

1180
02:53:15,452 --> 02:53:21,658
one, it really helped quite a few people. We're about to talk about fair chance hiring in the next weeks

1181
02:53:21,658 --> 02:53:30,500
and months here, and there's a similar conversation going on with that. The sort of silver lining there

1182
02:53:30,500 --> 02:53:40,430
is once the process and the mediation is -- has been in place for awhile, folks quite trying to file it.

1183
02:53:40,430 --> 02:53:47,617
because they know that they're going to not only get caught, they will be held accountable. And so I expect there are going

1184
02:53:47,617 --> 02:53:56,793
to be a small number of landlords who choose to not comply, or to abuse the system. They will get held accountable,

1185
02:53:56,793 --> 02:54:04,340
and then it will become common knowledge that you just have to follow the rules, and we'll see a number of mediations drop

1186
02:54:04,340 --> 02:54:14,340
quite a bit after this. So it's an important time of year to come up here, but it's going to add such value to our

1187
02:54:17,347 --> 02:54:24,387
renters which make up about two-thirds of our community. Each group of our neighbors that will be positively impacted by

1188
02:54:24,387 --> 02:54:30,794
this. So, with that, madam clerk, we do have a motion on the floor to adopt on second reading the

1189
02:54:30,794 --> 02:54:40,794
modified ordinance, which was shown on the overhead by mr. Nee and labeled in the backup with commissioner hayes-santos' name.

1190
02:54:43,673 --> 02:54:46,843
please call the roll call vote. >> commissioner chestnut? >> aye. >> commissioner hayes-santos?

1191
02:54:46,843 --> 02:54:49,145
>> aye. >> commissioner saco? >> aye. >> commissioner arreola?

1192
02:54:49,145 --> 02:54:51,915
>> aye. >> commissioner ward? >> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker?

1193
02:54:51,915 --> 02:54:55,418
>> aye. >> and mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. Passes unanimously.

1194
02:54:55,418 --> 02:55:01,424
thank you, all. Thank you. All right. Now go out there and do more

1195
02:55:01,424 --> 02:55:05,929
good work. Or take a nap and do good work tomorrow. All right, madam clerk.

1196
02:55:05,929 --> 02:55:14,304
>> next item is ordinance number 2022-343 repealing of the student community relations advisory board.

1197
02:55:14,304 --> 02:55:19,943
an ordinance of the city of gainesville, florida, repealing division 15, student community relations advisory board chapter

1198
02:55:19,943 --> 02:55:26,282
2 of the city code of ordinances, providing directions to the codifier, providing a severability clause, providing a

1199
02:55:26,282 --> 02:55:29,853
repealing clause and providing an immediate effective date. >> mayor: thank you, commissioner hayes-santos?

1200
02:55:29,853 --> 02:55:36,493
>> thank you, mayor. I move ordinance 2022-343 second reading by title only. >> mayor: motion and second to

1201
02:55:36,493 --> 02:55:40,730
adopt the proposed ordinance on second reading. Any members of the public wish to speak to this?

1202
02:55:40,730 --> 02:55:43,730
? Okay. >> commissioner arreola? Commissioner chestnut?

1203
02:55:44,670 --> 02:55:46,302
>> aye. >> commissioner saco? >> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker?

1204
02:55:46,302 --> 02:55:49,305
>> aye. >> commissioner ward? >> aye. >> commissioner hayes-santos?

1205
02:55:49,305 --> 02:55:53,576
>> aye. >> and mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously

1206
02:55:53,576 --> 02:56:01,818
with arreola an sent. Next item. >> noise ordinance amendment 2022-275 an ordinance of the

1207
02:56:01,818 --> 02:56:11,270
city of gainesville amending 15-2, 15-3, 15-5, 15-6, 15-7 and 2-339 code of ordinances relating to noise, providing

1208
02:56:11,270 --> 02:56:16,733
directions to the codifier, providing a severability clause, providing a repealing clause and providing an immediate effective

1209
02:56:16,733 --> 02:56:20,970
date. >> mayor: commissioner hayes-santos? >> I move ordinance 2022-275 on

1210
02:56:20,970 --> 02:56:27,210
second reading by title only. >> mayor: motion and a second that we adopt the proposed ordinance on second reading.

1211
02:56:27,210 --> 02:56:31,314
anybody signed up to speak to this? ? >> yes, we do have one speaker,

1212
02:56:31,314 --> 02:56:40,190
mr. Rich stransky. >> mayor: welcome. >> my name is rich stransky. Thanks for giving me the option

1213
02:56:40,190 --> 02:56:50,190
to speak. Mayor, commission, I live-I own a house about 20 years, about ten blocks, a couple blocks

1214
02:56:51,568 --> 02:56:59,609
[inaudible] and it kind of turns out coincidentally I kind of have this personal noise issue and it kind of came up right

1215
02:56:59,609 --> 02:57:06,616
this month, and I thought this might be an appropriate venue -- anyway I'm asking a question, where do I go?

1216
02:57:06,616 --> 02:57:12,989
what can I do? I look at the current regs and as of a few months ago it seemed applicable to the current code.

1217
02:57:12,989 --> 02:57:22,989
and I was looking at particularly the fact that I was a person with sensitivities and I thought, I realize now that

1218
02:57:23,766 --> 02:57:29,405
portion of the code was unconstitutional in the state. My inference is, and I haven't done a lot of research, my

1219
02:57:29,405 --> 02:57:36,746
inference is the changes are associated with the need to delete that portion of the code. It looks like primarily the

1220
02:57:36,746 --> 02:57:43,987
change is associated with what I just have to infer is probably about the biggest noise problem that the code didn't really

1221
02:57:43,987 --> 02:57:52,387
directly address quantitatively is noise in cars. Mine's different. The regulations say for my

1222
02:57:52,729 --> 02:57:59,769
concern, I'll get to exactly what it is in a minute, I think what they say is it's like readily curable within 200 feet

1223
02:57:59,769 --> 02:58:04,541
of the property boundary, then the code applies. Now that doesn't apply in my case.

1224
02:58:04,541 --> 02:58:13,249
I'm talking about my neighbor across the street have a really loud air conditioner, and really loud for years.

1225
02:58:13,249 --> 02:58:18,521
I e-mailed code enforcement, they said the police enforce that. I called the police, they said

1226
02:58:18,521 --> 02:58:23,920
they're not going to be a problem, they drove their car around the block. This house is kind of in the

1227
02:58:23,920 --> 02:58:29,465
middle of the block. They drove around the block, didn't really hear any noise that they thought was -- I left

1228
02:58:29,465 --> 02:58:34,337
that there. And I go well maybe I'm not a reasonable person. So I started talking to all my

1229
02:58:34,337 --> 02:58:39,742
neighbors. Does this bother you? And so I think there are nine houses that border the street

1230
02:58:39,742 --> 02:58:49,419
around the subject property. And I've spoken to seven of the nine, and I was really surprised, I've never spoken to

1231
02:58:49,419 --> 02:58:55,491
any of them about the noise before. They're as irate as I am. I hear this noise, it doesn't

1232
02:58:55,491 --> 02:59:04,767
meet the 55 decibels at night 200 feet of property but it's 55 decibels at property boundary. It's 40 decibels where I sit on

1233
02:59:04,767 --> 02:59:11,608
my patio. The average noise on my patio is like 24 air decibels. It's an air conditioner, it's on

1234
02:59:11,608 --> 02:59:17,547
24/7. Doing this for years. It's only become a big concern to me because now I sit out

1235
02:59:17,547 --> 02:59:24,887
there, my mom moved in a couple years ago, the virus, she has dementia, this is what we do. We sit out by the street to

1236
02:59:24,887 --> 02:59:29,859
greet our neighbors. That's social. It's really personal. So it seems like this new

1237
02:59:29,859 --> 02:59:34,597
changes to the regs don't really apply to me. I'm wondering is there any place for me to go.

1238
02:59:34,597 --> 02:59:43,139
I called the landlord -- the landlord of the property -- >> mayor: sir, sir -- >> they have no concerns at all.

1239
02:59:43,139 --> 02:59:46,776
>> mayor: okay I think to answer your first question probably not. If it's not meeting the

1240
02:59:46,776 --> 02:59:55,251
threshold legally, that doesn't give us a lot of options. But, based on our last item, and what you're telling us, if it's

1241
02:59:55,251 --> 03:00:05,251
a rental property, that landlord is absolutely bound by our new tenants right ordinance, and air conditioners are, as you just

1242
03:00:07,930 --> 03:00:17,407
heard, an aspect of that. And so, can he just give his information to you? Or do you want him to give it to

1243
03:00:17,407 --> 03:00:24,313
one of those five gentlemen behind? Who do you want to give it to? [inaudible]

1244
03:00:24,313 --> 03:00:31,120
[laughter] our newest senior member. So, the gentleman in black right behind you, give your

1245
03:00:31,120 --> 03:00:39,462
information to him, and he'll follow up with you, because it does sound like if there's an inspection of that property, and

1246
03:00:39,462 --> 03:00:43,199
specifically that air conditioner, it will not be in compliance. I can't make that determination

1247
03:00:43,199 --> 03:00:52,750
from the dais. But we certainly can administer this new process we just approved, and possibly get you

1248
03:00:52,750 --> 03:00:59,820
some relief through that process. Since the noise ordinance is probably not going to help you.

1249
03:00:59,820 --> 03:01:04,787
give your an tact information to andrew and he'll follow up with you. And someone will come out.

1250
03:01:04,787 --> 03:01:10,727
okay, thank you. Madam clerk, anybody else? Okay. With that we'll move to a roll

1251
03:01:10,727 --> 03:01:14,927
call vote. >> commissioner saco? >> aye. >> commissioner hayes-santos?

1252
03:01:15,640 --> 03:01:17,366
>> aye. >> commissioner ward? >> aye. >> commissioner arreola is an

1253
03:01:17,366 --> 03:01:20,470
september. Commissioner chestnut? >> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker?

1254
03:01:20,470 --> 03:01:23,773
>> aye. >> and mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously

1255
03:01:23,773 --> 03:01:31,247
with arreola an sent. All right. Next item, please. >> our next item is voluntary

1256
03:01:31,247 --> 03:01:41,247
annexation of 25.38 acres much property on west side of I-75 and northwest of southwest 8th avenue, ordinance 210956.

1257
03:01:41,924 --> 03:01:47,296
an ordinance of the city of gainesville, florida, annexing approximately 25.38 acres of privately owned property

1258
03:01:47,296 --> 03:01:53,603
generally located on the west side of interstate 75, north of southwest 8th avenue, as more specifically described in this

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ordinance, as petitioned for by the property owners pursue and to chapter 171 florida statutes, making certain findings,

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providing for inclusion of the property in appendix one of the city charter, providing for land use plan, zoning and subdivision

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regulations and enforcement of the same, providing for persons engaged in any okay ration, business trade or profession,

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providing directions to the city clerk, providing a severability clause, a repealing clause and immediate effective date.

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>> mayor: thank you, madam clerk. Commissioner hayes-santos? >> thank you, mayor I move

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ordinance 210956 on second reading by title owned. >> second. >> mayor: motion and second to

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adopt the ordinance on second reading. Anybody signed up? >> no, sir.

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commissioner ward? Commissioner chestnut? Aye. >> commissioner saco?

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>> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker? >> aye. >> commissioner arreola is

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absent. Commissioner hayes-santos? >> aye. >> and mayor poe?

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>> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously with ward and arreola absent. >> voluntary annexation of 9.945

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acres of privately owned property generally located northwest of intersection of southwest williston road and

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southwest 13th street. Ordinance number 210734 a. An ordinance of the city of gainesville, florida, annexing

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approximately 9.945 acres of privately owned property generally located northwest of the intersection of southwest

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williston road and southwest 13th street as more specifically described in this ordinance, as petitioned for by the property

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owners pursuant to chapter 171 florida statutes, making certain findings, providing for inclusion of the property in

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appendix a of the city charter, providing for land use plan, zoning and subdivision regulations and enforcement of

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the same, providing for persons engaged in any occupation, business trade or profession, providing directions to the city

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clerk, providing a severability clause, repealing clause and effective date. >> thank you, mayor, I move

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ordinance 210734-a. >> second. >> mayor: motion to adopt on second reading.

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roll call vote. >> commissioner hayes-santos? >> aye. >> commissioner ward?

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commissioner chestnut? >> aye. >> commissioner arreola? >> aye.

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>> commissioner duncan-walker? >> aye. >> commissioner saco? >> aye.

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>> and mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously with ward absent.

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n-6 was removed and referred to a future meeting. >> comprehensive plan amendment, transportation mobility element

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2022-522. Ordinance number 200732-a, an ordinance of the city of gainesville, florida, amending

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the comprehensive plan of the city of gainesville by amending transportation element number policy 10-2-1, relating to

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vacating city rights-of-way providing directions to the city manager, providing severability clause, providing a repealing

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clause and an effective date. >> mayor: thank you, commissioner hayes-santos. >> thank you, mayor.

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I move ordinance 200732-a on second reading by title only. >> mayor: is there a second? >> second.

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>> mayor: motion and a second to adopt the proposed ordinance on second reading. Anybody signed up to speak to

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this? Roll call vote. >> commissioner duncan-walker? >> aye.

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>> commissioner arreola? Commissioner saco? >> aye. >> commissioner chestnut?

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>> aye. >> commissioner ward? Absent. Commissioner hayes-santos?

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>> aye. >> and mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously

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with ward absent. Next item. >> our next item is text change amending the land development

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code relating to right-of-way vacations. Ordinance number 200731-a an ordinance of the city of

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gainesville, florida, amending the land development code, relating to vacating city rights-of-way by amending

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section 30-3.41, right-of-way vacations providing directions to the codifier, providing a severability clause, repealing

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clause and an effective date. >> mayor: commissioner hayes-santos? >> thank you, mayor, I move

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ordinance 200731-a by second reading by title only. >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second.

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anybody signed up to speak to this item? >> no, sir. >> mayor: roll call vote.

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>> commissioner chestnut? >> aye. >> commissioner hayes-santos? >> aye.

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>> commissioner saco? >> aye. >> commissioner arreola? >> aye.

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>> commissioner ward? >> aye. >> commissioner duncan-walker? >> aye.

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>> and mayor poe? >> mayor: aye. That motion passes unanimously. We have reached the end of our

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business for this afternoon. Is there any commission comment at this time? Okay.

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then we will be in recess until 5:30. >> mayor: okay. Welcome, everybody.

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let me get this on tight. Okay. Going to call this meeting back to order.

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madam clerk, I believe the first order of business is the pledge of allegiance. >> yes, sir.

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>> mayor: if all would join me if they're willing and able for the pledge of allegiance. [ pledge of allegiance ]

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>> mayor: thank you and please be seated. Okay. Madam clerk, our first

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proclamation, please. >> our first proclamation is peace takes practice 365 day. >> mayor: okay.

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thank you. We are in the midst of welcoming week this week and we also have the international day of piece

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and just use this opportunity to remind everybody that they're invited to join us this sunday at the martin luther king jr.

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center for the international festival and longest table event. It goes from 11:00 to 6:00.

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it's free. There's going to be music and food and dancing and just an overall good time.

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and at 4:00 is the longest table. It's an event we've been holding for several years where folks

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show up, actually intentionally are seated with folks they didn't show up with, break bread, talk about their life and

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03:22:32,240 --> 03:22:36,811
their ideas. We do ask that you sign up for that. It's free.

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but if you go to the city's website and just sign up, because we want to make sure we have enough food and everybody

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has a place. But we hope you can be there for that. It's going to be a wonderful

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event and we are glad to be back doing it again. This proclamation peace takes practice 365 day.

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whereas, people in cities, communities and villages worldwide have engaged in the international day of peace in

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diverse and meaningful ways since 1981 by participating in various activities such as a noon-time moment of silence,

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03:23:12,180 --> 03:23:21,556
festivals and community events. We speak peace. And whereas, the united nations has declared stress a global

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epidemic that is costing the american economy $300 billion a year. We seek a peace practice.

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and whereas, each year the international day of peace is observed around the world on the 21st of september, devoting

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this day to strengthening the ideals of peace through observing 24 hours of nonviolence and cease-fire.

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we embrace a peace practice. And whereas, climate action for peace brings a clear message that the global climate

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emergency is a real threat to security and stability. We light the path for peace. And whereas, members of the

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gainesville civic groups, individual and at the wellness network have come together to foster a peace takes practice

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365 initiative by welcoming all citizens to become peacebuilders, establishing a peace practice in every moment

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of every day. I am peace. Now, therefore, I, lauren poe, by the authority vested in me as

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mayor of the city of gainesville, do hereby proclaim september 21st, 2022 as peace takes practice 365 day in the

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city of gainesville and invite all our neighbors to join me to speak peace, embrace peace, light a path for peace and

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become peacebuilders by establishing a peace practice 365 days a year. In witness whereof, I have

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hereunto set my hand and caused to be affixed the official seal of the city of gainesville, florida, this 6th day of

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september, 2022. Thank you so much. And please say a few words. [applause]

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>> thank you very much, mr. Mayor, fellow commissioners. This work of peace does not require any funding, it does not

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require any legislation. All it requires is a desire to greet the eyes in the mirror with a determination to find

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peace and harmony within so that it can be your act in every moment of the day with all those that you interact with.

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I'm so pleased to have the organizations that have embraced this message of peace and we welcome all communities, all

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groups to participate in this national event. I am pleased that park run, which has been happening in

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gainesville for the last four years, and your wonderful kristin who facilitates that park run at depot park has

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embraced this. So on saturday morning we invite everyone to join us for an international day of peace

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sidewalk/run, depot park, arriving about 7:15. It will start at 7:30. Sit a 5k.

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and I will ask chris ten if she will come and tell us about it. Is that okay, mr. Mayor? >> good morning.

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or good evening, everybody. So chris tan bryan. I'm here as the event director for park run in gainesville.

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as many of you know I talk about park run all of the time. But it has been an honor to partner with the wellness

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program to hold this international day of peace workrun. Parkrun is a misnomer, it is a

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run, walk, jog, a combo of anything. Your fitness level and ability. We're going to have a lot of

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festivities on saturday. 7:15. I understand there's going to be a beautiful song of peace sung.

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one of my friends is coming to do -- help people do a chalk art on the sidewalk of peace so that you can come and just add your

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colors and your message to have peace. We're going to have people cheering everyone on no matter

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if you're just out there to get moving or if you're there to, you know, try to get a personal best.

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you'll get cheered on to the very end. And no one finishes last at parkrun.

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we have tail walker to come behind everyone. So everyone -- no one will finish last.

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so please come, get your walking shoes on and join us, getting moving. We'd love to have you out there.

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thank you so much for your time. [applause] >> on the 21st is the international day of peace.

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we'll be making an announcement at the gtec, gainesville technology and entrepreneurial center throughout the year.

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when I found out that venus hit a minimum of a thousand balls a day, I realized I was playing tennis at the level that I hit

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balls. We want to encourage a peace practice 365 day as week. We're very pleased and we're

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asking everybody to rise early that morning and take a pause, 70 seconds and just say the word peace.

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I'm so happy top ronnie here from moms demand action who have joined us. Your fellow former commissioner

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helen warren with the climate action for peace, sue blight who is home watching this on television and many other

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organizations who are joining in this effort because we know that peace takes practice 365 and in every moment.

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and mr. Mayor, thank you so much for this opportunity. We thank you very much for that proclamation.

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thank you. [applause] >> mayor: thank you, pamela and all of your supporting

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organizations, individuals. We really both appreciate it and need it. Madam clerk, our next

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proclamation, please. >> our next proclamation is ronald mcdonald house charities day of action.

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>> mayor: who is here from the ronald mcdonald house. You, buddy? Okay.

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we're going to still read they proclamation. We'll make sure that they get it.

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whereas, the mission of ronald mcdonald house charities of north central florida is to create, find and support

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programs that directly improve the health and well-being of children and their families. And whereas, since 1982, ronald

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03:29:47,108 --> 03:29:54,182
mcdonald house charities of north central florida has been keeping families close to their seriously ill children,

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providing comfy beds, home-cooked meals, and all of the comfort of home to families seeking medical care for their

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child. And whereas, volunteers are the heart of our organization and play a vital role at our ronald

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mcdonald house. Whether it's coordinating a family activity, cooking a meal for our families through our

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visiting chef program, or committing to a weekly shift, our volunteers make a tremendous difference in the lives of our

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families. Now, therefore, I, lauren poe, by the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of

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gainesville, do hereby proclaim september 30th, 2022, as ronald mcdonald house charities day of action in the

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city of gainesville and invite all our neighbors to join me and observe this day with activities and acts of kindness that

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demonstrate and celebrate selfless giving as we work towards our mission to keep families close to their

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seriously ill child. In witness whereof, I have here unto set my hand and caused to be affixed the official seal of

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the city of gainesville, florida, this 17th day of june, 2022. [applause]

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all right. Madam clerk. >> our next proclamation is essential workers' appreciate

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month. >> mayor: who is here for this proclamation? All right.

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welcome. Whereas, the city of gainesville, florida, like all cities throughout the world, has

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gone through a deadly pandemic crisis the likes of which have not been seen for a century. And whereas, essential workers

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03:31:23,905 --> 03:31:28,876
kept the critical parts of our economy running during the pandemic. And whereas, while many of us

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were told to stay at home, these workers had the responsibility during an outbreak to continue operations, putting their lives

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in danger. And whereas, the city is deeply indebted to its essential workers, those people who put

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themselves at risk to get us through the worst of times these last two and a half years. Now therefore, I, lauren poe, by

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the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of gainesville, do hereby proclaim october 2022 as essential

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workers' appreciate month in the city of gainesville and invite all our citizens to join me along with our businesses,

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churches, and civic groups, to honor and thank our pandemic heroes during the month of october.

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in witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused to be affixed the official seal of the city of gainesville,

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florida, this 7th day of september, 2022. Please say a few words. >> I'm glen terry, representing

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the essential workers' project here in gainesville. And this is, this is like a big, big thank you card to everyone

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03:32:31,939 --> 03:32:40,248
in our city who has been an essential worker these last two and a half years putting theirselves at risk, like it

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says, to get us through real bad times that we're much too aware of. What it will be, a series of

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03:32:52,860 --> 03:33:01,860
events that essential workers are invited to. Restaurants giving essential worker discounts and what not,

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creating a series of events during the month that we're going to invite the essential workers too.

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and of course there's a wide range of those. So they can have a good time. We're going to recognize and

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thank them. It is very important and I appreciate your support for this project.

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thank you. >> mayor: thank you, mr. Terry. [applause] madam clerk.

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>> our next item is early public comment. >> mayor: anybody signed up for early public comment.

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>> we do have a few. The first is alex posa. >> mayor: tell us which items you're speaking to.

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if it's more than one you have five minutes, fit's one, you have three minutes. >> this is about the planned

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03:33:53,821 --> 03:33:58,526
development on southwest 2nd and southwest 10th street. >> mayor: okay. Thank you.

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>> I'm alex posa. Gainesville needs more dense, transit oriented housing. There are those who complain

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03:34:08,569 --> 03:34:15,543
this is just luxury housing, but luxury housing is just a marketing term for new. Expensive apartment is still

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03:34:15,543 --> 03:34:23,343
cheaper than a detach single-family home. Additionally, this development contains set aside for

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03:34:28,550 --> 03:34:34,829
affordable units. This week the county commissioner voted down a proposal for affordable housing

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and the city commission should step up. Besides access to affordable housing, the carbon footprint

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03:34:42,690 --> 03:34:48,342
will be much smaller. The difference between carbon usage between high and low-density living is

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astounding. Those in the dense areas have a quarter of the footprint. Thanks to having a barrier in --

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mostly cooling, heating are significant lower than detached homes. Further, carbon savings come

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from a low car burden. Instead of the two units per ache, this will continue more than 180 per acre.

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climate change is our most pressing issue. Any government that has any interest in averting disaster

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must make density part of its plan. This development would sit on four bus routes and about a

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tenth of a mile from two more. This is the sort of density that is necessary to help rid our city of car dependency.

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unfortunately for the planet and the 1 point human lives lost to tragic violence every year, people generally take the most

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convenient form of transport, which unfortunately is almost cars in america, rather than the safest or cleanest, which might

1424
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be pedestrian, biking or bus. Opponents will say that this needs more affordable housing or other things to kill it by a

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03:36:11,158 --> 03:36:15,563
thousand cuts. It's true, a proposal can always be better. But gainesville isn't looking at

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this or another density proposal. It's looking at this or the status quo of surface parking

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lots and one-story buildings. Thank you. >> mayor: thank you. Madam clerk.

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>> early comment speaker is jason sanchez. >> mayor: could you go to the next person?

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that's it? Okay. Thank you. [inaudible]

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>> mayor: did they call in? No. Okay. Thank you.

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okay. Appreciate that. And those items will come up in just a moment.

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but next, madam clerk, our next item. >> our next item is resolution 2202-479.

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resolution supporting dual naming northeast 25th street dual name in honor of willie fred powers I with the

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recommendation that the city commission adopt the resolution supporting the

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request to dual name ne 25th street between ne 8th avenue and ne 10th ave as willie fred powers I way.

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>> mayor: boy, that looks good. Do we have anybody to present this? [laughter]

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>> mayor: well, I mean, just a little description would be good. >> we have a dual naming policy.

1438
03:37:46,353 --> 03:37:56,353
it's in your backup. Anytime that there's a community member that the public would like recognized, a petition can

1439
03:37:56,363 --> 03:38:01,368
be circulated. One was submitted. It's in your backup. The resolution has the

1440
03:38:01,368 --> 03:38:04,772
information reporting mr. Powers. >> mayor: excellent. Thank you.

1441
03:38:04,772 --> 03:38:14,772
I think we have the family of mr. Powers here. You want to come on up? Come on up.

1442
03:38:17,284 --> 03:38:25,840
everybody. Everybody. So I want to thank the family -- sorry about that.

1443
03:38:49,817 --> 03:38:58,492
that was a little close. I want to thank the family of mr. Powers for bringing this to us and allowing us to

1444
03:38:58,492 --> 03:39:07,167
memorialize him in something that will be lasting and endure in the community. It's very meaningful for all of

1445
03:39:07,167 --> 03:39:13,107
our neighbors and I know it's meaningful for you. We would just love if one or more of you would like to share

1446
03:39:13,107 --> 03:39:18,712
a little bit about him and give our community a little deeper understanding of the contributions he's made to our

1447
03:39:18,712 --> 03:39:27,154
community so we can celebrate along with you. I'll leave it up to y'all. >> I guess, I guess being his

1448
03:39:27,154 --> 03:39:33,394
son I get this honor. But I want to first off thank the city commission for this honor.

1449
03:39:33,394 --> 03:39:41,680
it will probably make it a little easier to ride down this street again. Thanks for my sister, katherine

1450
03:39:41,680 --> 03:39:49,677
scott, for bringing this to us. Because he meant a lot, not only to us but to a lot of the people in the duval heights area.

1451
03:39:49,677 --> 03:39:59,677
I guess I'm stuck for words. I haven't been that way before. But I'm humbled for a young black man from pelham, georgia

1452
03:40:03,624 --> 03:40:13,624
to make an impact in the city that he made not only in duval heights but, you know, the east side and also southeast side of

1453
03:40:13,634 --> 03:40:19,600
gainesville. So with that being said, I just want to thank everyone for this honor and I know my family would

1454
03:40:19,600 --> 03:40:26,380
want to thank everyone for this honor. I guess that's about all I have to say.

1455
03:40:26,380 --> 03:40:32,380
thanks. >> mayor: thank you. [applause] >> mayor: thank you all for

1456
03:40:40,527 --> 03:40:44,198
being here. We're going to make this official real quick, if you don't mind.

1457
03:40:44,198 --> 03:40:51,398
this is an official resolution. Commissioner hayes-santos. >> I move the resolution. >> second.

1458
03:40:54,842 --> 03:40:59,246
>> mayor: motion and five seconds there to approve this resolution. Commissioner duncan-walker.

1459
03:40:59,246 --> 03:41:09,246
>> thank you, mr. Mayor. I wanted to acknowledge the legacy, the importance, the brilliance, the human being that

1460
03:41:11,658 --> 03:41:21,658
mr. Powers was. And to be able to sit here and look out at the living legacies that are a part of him is so

1461
03:41:21,902 --> 03:41:27,341
incredible. And I want to thank my colleagues, I want to thank staff for making this possible.

1462
03:41:27,341 --> 03:41:37,341
it is important for us to remember and commemorate the individuals who have sacrificed and given so much to our

1463
03:41:40,954 --> 03:41:44,491
community and mr. Powers did that. Did that. This is a wonderful and

1464
03:41:44,491 --> 03:41:54,491
important way to immortalize his memory as we drive through east gainesville, duval heights, my home, will remember and

1465
03:41:54,768 --> 03:41:59,306
celebrate him always through that naming. Thank you everyone who made this happen and thank you to the

1466
03:41:59,306 --> 03:42:06,246
powers family for being here. His memory lives on. >> mayor: thank you, commissioner.

1467
03:42:06,246 --> 03:42:12,986
[applause] so we have a motion. Was there anybody else signed up to speak to this?

1468
03:42:12,986 --> 03:42:15,856
we're going to move to a roll call vote. >> commissioner saco. >> aye.

1469
03:42:15,856 --> 03:42:18,492
>> commissioner hayes-santos. >> aye. >> commissioner ward. >> aye.

1470
03:42:18,492 --> 03:42:21,495
>> commissioner arreola. >> aye. >> commissioner chestnut. >> aye.

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03:42:21,495 --> 03:42:26,660
>> commissioner duncan-walker. >> aye. >> and mayor poe. >> mayor: aye.

1472
03:42:26,660 --> 03:42:35,666
that motion passes unanimously. It is now so named the official willie fred powers street. Congratulations.

1473
03:42:40,180 --> 03:42:44,518
[applause] y'all, we've got a bunch of other interesting items on our agenda.

1474
03:42:44,518 --> 03:42:49,756
you're welcome to stick around the whole night with us if you would like or we'll let you get on and celebrate with

1475
03:42:49,756 --> 03:42:57,556
yourselves. Thank you for joining us. All right. Madam clerk, our next item,

1476
03:42:58,532 --> 03:43:06,332
please. >> okay. Our next item is the petition pb-21-00219, amendment of the

1477
03:43:07,740 --> 03:43:17,740
future land use map from urban mixed use high to planned use district 2022-536 with the recommendation that the city

1478
03:43:19,152 --> 03:43:27,361
commission approve petition pb-21-00219 with conditions. >> mayor: thank you. >> thank you, mr. Mayor and

1479
03:43:27,361 --> 03:43:33,734
welcome. My name is forrest, planner with the department of sustainable stable development and currently

1480
03:43:33,734 --> 03:43:41,275
the acting director for the department. I'll be presenting both positions pb-21-219 and later

1481
03:43:41,275 --> 03:43:51,275
pb-21-220 which are requests by chw on behalf of ca ventures. The petitions before you this evening have a land use change

1482
03:43:52,552 --> 03:44:01,194
from urban mixed use high to planned use development coupled with associated rezoning from urban 9 to planned district or

1483
03:44:01,194 --> 03:44:09,269
pd. As you are all away were the pud and pd designations are intended to provide a means for property

1484
03:44:09,269 --> 03:44:17,277
owners to propose unique or innovative projects that the existing comp plan and land development code language may

1485
03:44:17,277 --> 03:44:24,170
not have contemplated or addressed directly. This proposal requests relief from several criteria and

1486
03:44:24,170 --> 03:44:34,170
regulations in order to facilitate providing workforce rate housing in perpetuity. And workforce rate is defined as

1487
03:44:34,428 --> 03:44:41,628
households earning between 50% and 80% of the area median income. Specifically this proposal

1488
03:44:42,436 --> 03:44:51,436
request, increase to allowable height, increase to allowable density, changes to building placement, modification to

1489
03:44:51,478 --> 03:45:00,687
compatibility requirements related to historic districts which I'll describe many in more detail on some following slides.

1490
03:45:00,687 --> 03:45:07,327
just to give some description real briefly through the next couple of slides to orient you to the site, you can see here,

1491
03:45:07,327 --> 03:45:14,101
the yellow is the subject property. We have the invasion square area outlined here.

1492
03:45:14,101 --> 03:45:24,101
and then the sort of brownish reddish you see here is the university heights south historic district.

1493
03:45:26,446 --> 03:45:36,446
it is immediately to the west, as you can see here, of the existing infinity hall development.

1494
03:45:36,656 --> 03:45:46,656
and this image is showing the existing 100-foot compatibility buffer that is associated with the university heights historic

1495
03:45:48,680 --> 03:45:55,442
district. So you can see up in the northwest corner here of this image that this is the actual

1496
03:45:55,442 --> 03:46:02,315
district itself that aligns with some of the property boundaries. The 100-foot buffer limit is right here in the blue, sort of

1497
03:46:02,315 --> 03:46:11,425
blue dotted. And shows you overlaid with the black and white dotted area here the project outline itself.

1498
03:46:11,425 --> 03:46:21,425
and that will orient you to some of the main issues or topics of discussion here going forward. So the current land use is the

1499
03:46:22,803 --> 03:46:31,211
umuh, urban mixed use high. And you can see the areas around it. To the west is the same land

1500
03:46:31,211 --> 03:46:38,840
use. To the east is the downtown land use, which is the most intensive land use district.

1501
03:46:38,840 --> 03:46:48,840
and then you can see in the sort of coral or pink here that it is the lower intensity land use district that is associated with

1502
03:46:48,228 --> 03:46:58,228
the historic district. Here is the existing zoning. It aligns or is consistent with the underlying land use, which

1503
03:46:59,306 --> 03:47:06,913
of course we are discussing now and currently. But also just to give you an idea of the overall discussion

1504
03:47:06,913 --> 03:47:11,818
of the land use and zoning at the same time. We have the most intense district here to the east, which

1505
03:47:11,818 --> 03:47:21,818
is downtown, and the u-9 district here which is existing. And we have this district that goes along with the existing

1506
03:47:22,195 --> 03:47:32,195
historic district. So some of the building details. I'll leave a detailed description of the building to

1507
03:47:32,439 --> 03:47:37,430
the applicant and their team. I'll give a brief overview. You can see we have the east elevation.

1508
03:47:37,430 --> 03:47:44,484
and this would be looking from infinity hall. And you have on this portion of the project, the 12 stories.

1509
03:47:44,484 --> 03:47:51,570
and then to the north here on this portion is the five stories. This would be the south

1510
03:47:51,570 --> 03:47:56,997
elevation. So this is of course looking from the south to the north. This is the longest facade

1511
03:47:56,997 --> 03:48:06,997
proposed for the project. This is the roundabout area that you may be familiar with here. And then over to the east is the

1512
03:48:08,675 --> 03:48:14,381
infinity hall. You can see on this, this is the 12 stories. There's a brick facade on the

1513
03:48:14,381 --> 03:48:21,221
first floor. The entrances have direct entrances to units with stoops and primary entrances that

1514
03:48:21,221 --> 03:48:26,960
connect directly to the sidewalk. This would be from the west elevation.

1515
03:48:26,960 --> 03:48:36,200
this is looking from what is now the swamp 2.0 restaurant that's coming online right now. There are buildings and

1516
03:48:36,200 --> 03:48:41,441
structures basically where we would be looking here. But this is looking, again, towards the east.

1517
03:48:41,441 --> 03:48:48,949
and you can see what is trying to be depicted here is a recess in the building. This is empty space, if you

1518
03:48:48,949 --> 03:48:56,723
will. It's a little bit more shaded here to show that the building has been lowered in these areas

1519
03:48:56,723 --> 03:49:03,330
in an attempt to address compatibility with the historic district. So in effect really, that

1520
03:49:03,330 --> 03:49:10,270
creates this cutout on the building itself. And this taller, skinnier section here, which has been

1521
03:49:10,270 --> 03:49:17,444
referred to or discussed certainly at the plan board meeting as a blade or something to that effect.

1522
03:49:17,444 --> 03:49:26,720
a skinny portion, skinny and tall portion of the structure here. And then this is looking from

1523
03:49:26,720 --> 03:49:33,827
the north towards the south. This gives you a better more close-up view of the smaller building that is closer to the

1524
03:49:33,827 --> 03:49:42,502
historic district here from that direction. So here are some of the details at issue here.

1525
03:49:42,502 --> 03:49:49,809
so the baseline buy right information is made more complicated that typical development due to the historic

1526
03:49:49,809 --> 03:49:59,809
district compatibility buffer. And this table attempts to lay out the existing buy right uses or land use and zoning

1527
03:50:02,122 --> 03:50:12,122
designations here and criteria. And it also attempts to put that historic -- the historic district compatibility buffer

1528
03:50:12,399 --> 03:50:18,905
directly next to some of these parameters or figures that we're looking at. And then of course all the way

1529
03:50:18,905 --> 03:50:27,480
on the right-hand side here are really what would be the proposed maximums. So I'm happy to go through each

1530
03:50:27,480 --> 03:50:30,817
one of these numbers if you would like. Or if there are questions on them.

1531
03:50:30,817 --> 03:50:40,817
but I'll avoid going block by block slide by slide here unless you all would like me to. Policy 4.1.3 of the comp plan

1532
03:50:46,766 --> 03:50:53,973
outlines the criteria for changes in the future land use. And typically I wouldn't go item by item here since a larger

1533
03:50:53,973 --> 03:51:00,280
discussion is included in the staff report that was presented to the plan board. And of course the plan board

1534
03:51:00,280 --> 03:51:10,256
discussion itself is available as a record. But of course as ever, I'm happy to answer any questions or go

1535
03:51:10,256 --> 03:51:18,198
through this line by line or item by item if you would like. Generally speaking, staff has found that the proposal is

1536
03:51:18,198 --> 03:51:24,871
generally consistent with the comprehensive plan in that it directly addresses several goals and policies of the

1537
03:51:24,871 --> 03:51:33,871
comprehensive plan, including the future land use element, the housing element and the transportation element.

1538
03:51:34,914 --> 03:51:43,289
and more specifically in speaking directly to section 30-3.17 of the ldc, the proposal is consistent in that it

1539
03:51:43,289 --> 03:51:50,764
provides multiple housing options, including workforce rate and student housing. It adds increased density to a

1540
03:51:50,764 --> 03:51:59,305
mixed-use area with protecting and promotes transit options through closing curb cuts and adding pedestrian access.

1541
03:51:59,305 --> 03:52:08,381
the proposal conform to the pd purpose by offering a unique development in that 10% of the units will be dedicated to

1542
03:52:08,381 --> 03:52:17,390
workforce rate housing in perpetuity with equal access to finishes across the units that will be provided.

1543
03:52:17,390 --> 03:52:23,897
staff has provided an analysis of code and comp plan language requirements. However, whether a proposal is

1544
03:52:23,897 --> 03:52:31,171
unique or innovative enough is largely in the purview, of course, of the plan board when the was discussed before the

1545
03:52:31,171 --> 03:52:38,344
plan board and now of course before you all here this evening. By offering workforce rate

1546
03:52:38,344 --> 03:52:46,252
housing in perpetuity, staff believes that the threshold of innovative has been met. Internal compatibility largely

1547
03:52:46,252 --> 03:52:52,592
refers to how uses relate to each other within the project area. And since this is two buildings

1548
03:52:52,592 --> 03:53:00,633
in one campus, if you will, with equal access to user, the proposed internal compatibility is consistent with code

1549
03:53:00,633 --> 03:53:07,240
requirements. External compatibility refer to the proposal's relationship to the surrounding neighborhood and

1550
03:53:07,240 --> 03:53:12,879
area. Several improvements are proposed that will enhance the external compatibility, such as

1551
03:53:12,879 --> 03:53:21,200
street level pedestrian access to units, closing of curb cuts and increase in density and intensity in an area between uf

1552
03:53:21,200 --> 03:53:28,194
and downtown. However, there are significant concerns with the proposal's compatibility, massing and scale

1553
03:53:28,194 --> 03:53:36,369
with surrounding properties. Particularly within the historic district compatibility buffer. The northwest and south sides of

1554
03:53:36,369 --> 03:53:45,278
the project, as you saw in the previous images, are within the compatibility buffer and are adjacent to one and two-story

1555
03:53:45,278 --> 03:53:51,217
single-family structures and small-scale multifamily structures. The image on the slide shows a

1556
03:53:51,217 --> 03:53:57,824
top-down street-level view of the proposed building from 2nd avenue. And you can see this is the top

1557
03:53:57,824 --> 03:54:06,266
down section here. And this is looking more from the street level. In attempting to address this,

1558
03:54:06,266 --> 03:54:13,673
the applicant has worked with site to reduce height and massing on the portions of the property that are within the

1559
03:54:13,673 --> 03:54:18,912
compatibility buffer. This is why the building has been designed with the cutout or the blade shape.

1560
03:54:18,912 --> 03:54:25,184
the significant increase in density and intensity should be strongly considered by the commission as a part of any

1561
03:54:25,184 --> 03:54:32,592
final decision, of course. The project is located at the meeting point between the invasion square district and the

1562
03:54:32,592 --> 03:54:39,766
university heights south historic district with the primary entrance and the prominent roundabout at

1563
03:54:39,766 --> 03:54:47,507
2nd avenue and 10th street. At the time the district was designated in 2002, the area that was left out that you saw

1564
03:54:47,507 --> 03:54:57,507
of the historic district, this sort of blank space in the center or in the middle was done so due to the buildings not

1565
03:54:58,584 --> 03:55:05,580
being historically significant in this area. And as noncontributing structures would have resulted

1566
03:55:05,580 --> 03:55:12,732
in a weaker proposal for historic district designation at the time. Today the district contains 150

1567
03:55:12,732 --> 03:55:20,532
contributing structures and 32 noncontributing structures. That is within this entire darker area here.

1568
03:55:20,707 --> 03:55:27,307
150 contributing structures. And the 32 noncontributing structures. By establishing the district the

1569
03:55:29,115 --> 03:55:34,320
city commission found that the area is significant to city planning, architecture and local history.

1570
03:55:34,320 --> 03:55:42,895
the staff report goes into much greater detail on the district and we have the city's historic preservation man planner here to

1571
03:55:42,895 --> 03:55:52,705
answer any specific questions you may have on the historic district. Again, here is a slide showing

1572
03:55:52,705 --> 03:55:58,745
where the building is and where it is proposed. And its relation to some of these structures that within the

1573
03:55:58,745 --> 03:56:07,145
staff report have additional images of the structures themselves. Again, here's the slide showing

1574
03:56:13,359 --> 03:56:18,731
the 100-foot compatibility buffer. Just to refresh. It sticks out here and extends

1575
03:56:18,731 --> 03:56:24,700
from the historic district that is to the north and then of course as you saw, there is portions of the historic

1576
03:56:24,700 --> 03:56:29,676
district that are down here to the south that are not shown on the image. But this is the portion of that

1577
03:56:29,676 --> 03:56:39,676
district that is affecting the parameters for development on the site here today. The buffer was created to limit

1578
03:56:40,553 --> 03:56:48,227
directly adjacent development that's out of scale with the districts, either visually or through the intensity of use.

1579
03:56:48,227 --> 03:56:53,633
in addition to limiting height to four stories, the buffer requirements also limit multifamily development to no

1580
03:56:53,633 --> 03:57:02,842
more than six dwelling units per building and shall be in the form of single-family attached or small-scale multifamily.

1581
03:57:02,842 --> 03:57:08,714
so these are some of the pictures that go along with those structures within the historic district that had the

1582
03:57:08,714 --> 03:57:16,514
designation of being contributing structures or noncontributing. And I'll just go through these

1583
03:57:16,722 --> 03:57:26,199
to give you an idea of the surrounding properties in that historic district. So these are moving along the

1584
03:57:26,199 --> 03:57:35,808
southern side of what we showed in that image there and are really concentrated along that sort of cutout area that you saw

1585
03:57:35,808 --> 03:57:41,247
from the historic district. So I'm sure many of you are familiar with this area and are likely familiar with many of

1586
03:57:41,247 --> 03:57:51,247
these structures because it is a big throughway or avenue between downtown and of course campus. And you can see some of the

1587
03:57:54,260 --> 03:58:04,260
brick facade on many of the structures here. And this is the roundabout you can see on the eastern side or

1588
03:58:04,504 --> 03:58:14,504
the right-hand side here, the existing infinity hall. And this would be where the building is proposed today.

1589
03:58:18,170 --> 03:58:28,170
another short of infinity hall gives you an idea of the existing massing and use of the street here.

1590
03:58:29,328 --> 03:58:37,370
and a look down the avenues that we're discussing, down the thoroughfares here. So in reviewing the proposal,

1591
03:58:37,370 --> 03:58:42,575
staff also reviewed priest planning efforts and the existing architecture of the area.

1592
03:58:42,575 --> 03:58:49,782
as you can see from the images, the existing character and primary corridors in the invasion district is largely

1593
03:58:49,782 --> 03:58:57,156
that of three to five-story buildings with more modern materials. The proposed project proposed a

1594
03:58:57,156 --> 03:59:02,662
nod to the historic district by crowding most of the ground floor in brick. However, above the ground floor

1595
03:59:02,662 --> 03:59:09,635
the majority of the facade is clad in materials that are not typically found within the historic district but within the

1596
03:59:09,635 --> 03:59:15,908
invasion district. So while these images show what has been built, it's important to point out that this is not

1597
03:59:15,908 --> 03:59:23,783
necessarily the limits of what is allowed by right today. Also important to point out are the previous planning efforts

1598
03:59:23,783 --> 03:59:31,591
that have been undertaken in this area. Specifically the 2018 multimodel corridor's visions study and the

1599
03:59:31,591 --> 03:59:37,797
2012 invasion square master plan. The visioning study was largely geared towards planning for

1600
03:59:37,797 --> 03:59:45,538
creating ideal conditions along the corridors but also analyzed existing densities and recommendations for potential

1601
03:59:45,538 --> 03:59:52,440
infill. The study recommended providing careful infill developments with residential neighborhoods and

1602
03:59:52,440 --> 03:59:58,784
that care should be taken to not provide development that will overwhelm existing neighborhoods.

1603
03:59:58,784 --> 04:00:08,784
the 2012 innovation square master plan focused on a innovative research committee. The goal was to 0 combine the

1604
04:00:11,130 --> 04:00:16,535
two motivation to provide a highly-walkable and livable neighborhood. It's important to point out that

1605
04:00:16,535 --> 04:00:25,444
previous planning efforts do not carry the weight of law on code or regulations. However, these efforts provide

1606
04:00:25,444 --> 04:00:32,852
insight as to long-term vision for the area. These are planning tools but should not be construed as

1607
04:00:32,852 --> 04:00:42,762
sources of requirements of restrictions. And you can see some of the imagery and 3rd graphics that

1608
04:00:42,762 --> 04:00:51,570
were put together to discuss this invasion square. And so of course as I mentioned before and as you are all aware,

1609
04:00:51,570 --> 04:01:00,980
the comprehensive plan and the intent of the pud and pd elements of the comprehensive plan are intended to allow the

1610
04:01:00,980 --> 04:01:07,530
consideration of unique, innovative or narrowly-construed land use proposals. Because of the specificity of

1611
04:01:07,530 --> 04:01:13,592
the land use, regulations can be found to be compatible with the character of surrounding land uses.

1612
04:01:13,592 --> 04:01:20,700
and the pd districts are intended to provide a particularized zoning district that recognizes unique

1613
04:01:20,700 --> 04:01:28,400
conditions. And this proposal provides for the 10% of proposed units to be reserved for households earning

1614
04:01:28,400 --> 04:01:37,400
50% and 80% of the area median income in perpetuity. So despite challenge to compatibility and surrounding

1615
04:01:37,283 --> 04:01:46,692
character, by offering 10% of the units as workforce rate units in perpetuity, staff believes this proposal meets the

1616
04:01:46,692 --> 04:01:55,534
tension of unique and innovative. Staff reviewed it as it relates to the comprehensive plan and

1617
04:01:55,534 --> 04:02:02,708
code. And where there are conflicts, the proposal asked for relief from the conflicts and proposed

1618
04:02:02,708 --> 04:02:12,708
a unique future to offset. Whether it's unique in the mind of you all, of course, is entirely up to you all.

1619
04:02:13,520 --> 04:02:23,520
and with that staff recommends the approval of both pb21-219, also the associated of pd21-20 with the conditions that you see

1620
04:02:25,297 --> 04:02:35,297
here. And with that I will answer any questions or I'm happy to turn it over to the applicant to

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discuss the project in further detail. >> mayor: thank you. Commissioner arreola, did you

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have a question before we turned to the applicant? >> I guess my question was the order of operations for

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presentations. >> mayor: we'll get the applicant. So we'll invite the applicant

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up. >> thank you. >> thank you and good evening, mr. Mayor, members of the

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commission, madam city manager, mr. Cumming ham and our clerk. I'm executive vice president of chw professional consultants and

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I'm here tonight, happy to be here with our client ch ventures. Tommy is in the front row, jay

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who is an architect and patrice boyce behind tommy as the project attorney. Also my favorite introduction is

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seth wood, the newest professional planner and graduate of the university of florida who has work directly on

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the application and we're proud to employ our gator graduates in this effort. We're here tonight to talk to

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you about a proposed project -- I'm going to harken back to a few years ago and a few commissions ago where a seated

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commissioner named warren nielsen said something that is salient. Parking lots are place holders.

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and we have a project that's been proposed on a parking lot on the northwest corner in the invasion district.

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as a bit of mechanical background, I want to talk about the land use, those will apply to the zoning in some cases and

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back into the land use. We had public notification of this project as part of the application process.

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we had a couple people attend it from the university of florida and one gentleman actually attended the actual neighborhood

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workshop for this project. The timeline that you can see here, we started this not quite a year ago but pretty close to a

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year ago. Was our first step meeting, the neighborhood workshop before the holidays.

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we submitted the application before christmas break. And through the months of february through april we worked

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with staff on several different designs for this project. And we were at the plan board back in may.

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seems like a lifetime ago but it was earlier this year. And we've glad to be here tonight because we feel like we

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have a really great opportunity. This would be the second project that had a mandatory perpetual workforce housing component in

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04:05:18,938 --> 04:05:28,938
the city of gainesville in effectively the innovation district with walking distance to campus, the jobs and the huge

1643
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investment that santa fe college has made downtown and to the burgeoning district itself. I said at the plan board and I

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will repeat that tonight. We could take 15 to 20 acres in west gainesville and build an apartment complex with hundreds

1645
04:05:45,831 --> 04:05:54,106
of parking spaces and deforest a tremendous amount of land. Or we could take a parking lot and turn excite an urban

1646
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residential building. And I don't know him other than tonight's comments, alex posa said, this has a tremendous

1647
04:06:04,683 --> 04:06:13,292
impact on the carbon effect. This has a tremendous impact on the energy efficiency and the safety of our city by placing

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people within walking, bicycling, scooting and transit distances of many features, education, recreation, jobs,

1649
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employment, social and cultural opportunities. We would probably not be here if we had the zoning across the

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street which is where the dt zoning is. And having walked the streets of new york last week for several

1651
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days, one of the things I noted is things can live harmoniously. And when people are on the ground walking from block to

1652
04:06:46,992 --> 04:06:52,364
block, they don't go, I just transferred from one zone to another. They just look at the space

1653
04:06:52,364 --> 04:06:58,337
created there. And I would offer that these parking lots here, their time has come where they're no longer

1654
04:06:58,337 --> 04:07:05,611
being needed as parking lots but they're place holders to infill or city with residents and employees of our downtown

1655
04:07:05,611 --> 04:07:14,319
university and santa fe college features. This is key because we are proposing two multistory

1656
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buildings that would sit here next to infinity hall right kiddy corner to the I district. Residential amenities will be

1657
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across the entire development. Everybody will live in equality with equal access to the features of the building with

1658
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such as the gym, and the ride trip program, the zip cars, the vehicles, and the ability to get from here to any destination

1659
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easily and comfortably. Placing people where they can build off of the resources of the existing sidewalk network.

1660
04:07:51,590 --> 04:08:00,866
the existing transit network. The existing bicycle lanes is so important in our community. That being said, we are taking

1661
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aged sidewalks and turning this into enhanced pedestrian realm which will also increase the safety of not only the residents

1662
04:08:08,507 --> 04:08:15,514
in this building but the residents of the entire community. When you bring in crime

1663
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prevention with environmental design techniques and more eyes on the street and residential stoops to the street, you're

1664
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creating a window onto the world to improve the quality of life in this area. This of course adds additional

1665
04:08:29,995 --> 04:08:37,402
urban housing where it is needed in town and it adds a diversity of housing. Because we are placing market

1666
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rate and in perpetuity through the mechanism of the pud, the planned use district and the planned development zoning one

1667
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those will occur in perpetuity. Some of the opportunities that we see as I stated a second ago is to improve the form and the

1668
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character and safety of the pedestrian realm in the urban core. And increasing this housing

1669
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supply in our most redeveloping portion of the city, the I district. And what it does that other

1670
04:09:04,997 --> 04:09:14,540
projects have not yet done is added workforce housing right downtown which is walkable, bikeable and transit friendly.

1671
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so here's the context area that we're looking at here. And you can certainly see, here's the invasion district,

1672
04:09:20,546 --> 04:09:28,120
the site of the former alachua county general hospital. This sits right across the street, right next to infinity

1673
04:09:28,120 --> 04:09:33,158
hall. This is the university of florida campus, just a few hundred feet to the west.

1674
04:09:33,158 --> 04:09:42,668
these are all projects that are in play in this portion of town that's building between the university and downtown and

1675
04:09:42,668 --> 04:09:48,173
along the 13th street corridor. In the last several years each one of these spaces have come

1676
04:09:48,173 --> 04:09:57,282
forward and have been candidates for redevelopment. As part of the data and analysis we looked at the walk score of

1677
04:09:57,282 --> 04:10:06,491
the community. We have a tremendously high walk score because we are so close to campus, so close to santa fe

1678
04:10:06,491 --> 04:10:15,701
college downtown center, so close to the I district and so long to the downtown along what I call the hipster highway,

1679
04:10:15,701 --> 04:10:25,701
which is 2nd avenue here. In fact, our walkable score here is a walker's paradise and a biker's paradise too at 93 and

1680
04:10:27,412 --> 04:10:33,819
99 points respectfully out of 100. Some of the multimodel strategies that go along with

1681
04:10:33,819 --> 04:10:40,425
this project are as follows. There will be a shared vehicle program for all residents. Unlike in other buildings that

1682
04:10:40,425 --> 04:10:50,425
have but in an abundance of parking with there will be only a hundred parking spaces here because most people will rely on

1683
04:10:50,602 --> 04:10:56,208
their shoes, their bike, skateboard, scooter own other means like transit to get along here.

1684
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this will allow macro ability solutions. If you're working here in the I district, it's across the street

1685
04:11:04,616 --> 04:11:12,891
or just down a couple of blocks. We're going to put in preferred parking for green vehicles and there will be electric charging

1686
04:11:12,891 --> 04:11:22,100
stations built in this building. The building will have mechanical parking in it, ground-level parking and

1687
04:11:22,100 --> 04:11:29,141
residents who don't want to use their cars, they will be placed in the air of the podium of the structure.

1688
04:11:29,141 --> 04:11:35,714
there will be a scooter share program and a charging area for scooters. We will have a bicycle actual

1689
04:11:35,714 --> 04:11:41,920
locker area and a maintenance area that will be built in for residents so that they can work on their bike if they need to

1690
04:11:41,920 --> 04:11:46,525
change a tube or tighten up a chain, it will be built into the building. And of course this is on

1691
04:11:46,525 --> 04:11:56,125
existing transit routes. So these an example of one of the maintenance frames and maintenance stations.

1692
04:11:58,360 --> 04:12:04,977
so looking at this project we have just over one acre of land here. And again, really the zoning

1693
04:12:04,977 --> 04:12:12,217
density and intensity that we seek is right across the street. What the dt is. And we'd like to selectively use

1694
04:12:12,217 --> 04:12:19,791
it on the portion of land which as you can see is a single-story building, and a parking lot and primarily a parking lot and

1695
04:12:19,791 --> 04:12:27,165
single-story medical building. These are the views here today that you see. Older but still functional

1696
04:12:27,165 --> 04:12:34,106
sidewalks and there's a good tree line that's in here. We will be building this should you approve this, to the urban

1697
04:12:34,106 --> 04:12:42,514
transect standards. And these things, like the aged alley, will be brought up to more modern standard where that

1698
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will be clearly delineated. And what we will be doing also is removing all of the curb cuts on 10th and on 2nd in favor

1699
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of access off of this alley. And that is what the alley looks like from the reverse angle looking east toward infinity

1700
04:13:01,330 --> 04:13:07,539
hall. This is the single-story medical building on the north side and you see infinity here in the

1701
04:13:07,539 --> 04:13:13,110
background of this shot. And then this is again looking down that alley here. In addition, all of these

1702
04:13:13,110 --> 04:13:21,860
utilities will be undergrounded. They will no longer be [inaudible] based utilities and we'll be cleaning up this area

1703
04:13:21,860 --> 04:13:31,860
from an urban design perspective by getting rid of the curb cuts. So effectively we have the second highest land use in the

1704
04:13:36,680 --> 04:13:42,740
city. We would like to have the ability to have the density that exists right across the street

1705
04:13:42,740 --> 04:13:49,140
here and cons trait I along 2ened and portions of 10th here. That's why we're requesting the

1706
04:13:49,140 --> 04:13:57,656
planned use district which also in turn then would encode the perpetual workforce housing in the project in perpetuity.

1707
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we would like to remove the u9 zoning in favor of a planned development zoning which would effectively give us similar

1708
04:14:07,320 --> 04:14:12,838
rights as to what's already across the street here on this side of the intersection. As forrest showed you in his

1709
04:14:12,838 --> 04:14:20,312
presentation, that buffer district extends through and causes what we call a blade-like form of this building.

1710
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and I'm going to show you several iterations of designs that we considered through the course of this application and

1711
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how we got there. But most importantly, what we're asking for is very little in form and increased density.

1712
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the maximum building height that would be allowed under the current future land use and zoning is 116 feet.

1713
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we could make this building work with about four feet of additional height. It's not a tremendous height

1714
04:14:50,242 --> 04:14:57,115
difference that we're asking for. The historic district limits it to four stories and 60 feet.

1715
04:14:57,115 --> 04:15:05,123
we can build the building within 60 feet but we would like to have five floors in that building instead of four.

1716
04:15:05,123 --> 04:15:10,762
for density we are looking for a boost here. We would like to see the density raised up so that we can

1717
04:15:10,762 --> 04:15:19,671
effectively have that one acre of land be what would equate to as a complete full apartment-scale project.

1718
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so we would have 379 beds going up to 557 beds. And of course under the buy right type scenario, there's no

1719
04:15:29,748 --> 04:15:36,354
requirement for workforce housing, but we were proposing to place in here 10% of the units interspersed throughout

1720
04:15:36,354 --> 04:15:46,354
the building in an equitable manner, workforce housing in perpetuity. So as you can see, this aerial

1721
04:15:46,965 --> 04:15:52,270
shows you here that the standards are really the jump in the density. The pud is requesting the

1722
04:15:52,270 --> 04:16:00,979
approximate density allowed on the other side of 10th street. A seamless transition from what one would see from the ground

1723
04:16:00,979 --> 04:16:06,651
here as possible on this side street. We'd like to see it on this parking area here.

1724
04:16:06,651 --> 04:16:14,759
when we talked at the plan board, we talked about the setback and currently what the code requests.

1725
04:16:14,759 --> 04:16:20,999
the code says that within 100 feet of the district you have to have a step down in the building.

1726
04:16:20,999 --> 04:16:28,773
and we understand that. There's also another portion of the code that says there shall be no more than six dwelling

1727
04:16:28,773 --> 04:16:35,447
units per wild spacing and it shall be in the form of either single-family dwellings, attached or a small-scale

1728
04:16:35,447 --> 04:16:41,152
multifamily. That has not been consistently applied around the area. So we are requesting relief from

1729
04:16:41,152 --> 04:16:51,152
that because that is important. On the block north of us, this is the back of hub 1 in about the 10 to 1200 block of

1730
04:16:51,396 --> 04:16:57,902
university avenue. You see there are eight stories out here and they are a little step-down, but they did not

1731
04:16:57,902 --> 04:17:03,441
design that in the form of a small-scale apartment nor single-family nor attached dwellings.

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04:17:03,441 --> 04:17:12,350
I'm going to speak about the land use in the presentation. We have another presentation that deals specifically with the

1733
04:17:12,350 --> 04:17:19,724
zoning should we go there. But I want to let you know that a full set of pd development standards have been included

1734
04:17:19,724 --> 04:17:27,650
that staff reviewed, twice now, prior to the plan board and prior to tonight recommended that you approve for this

1735
04:17:27,650 --> 04:17:34,973
project. Relative to the workforce housing with, this will place a rent limit tight unit at 50% of

1736
04:17:34,973 --> 04:17:44,582
the adjusted median or area median income of $686 for a one bedroom or $823 for a two-bedroom in perpetuity.

1737
04:17:44,582 --> 04:17:53,325
and that means forever in this building. We know that workforce housing is needed and we believe this

1738
04:17:53,325 --> 04:17:57,862
brings an answer to that. There's a constant' diverse demand. While there are people -- and I

1739
04:17:57,862 --> 04:18:06,171
think mr. Mayor stated this to me -- that make six figures or more at university of florida, there are folks that make well

1740
04:18:06,171 --> 04:18:12,944
under four figures or five figures. And you reminded me, mr. Mayor, as commissioners, we're in that

1741
04:18:12,944 --> 04:18:19,784
category too. So this enables the administrators and the staff members and the custodians and

1742
04:18:19,784 --> 04:18:29,627
maybe the single moms and single dads to be able to live problem mate to uf or santa fe college or in any of these spaces and

1743
04:18:29,627 --> 04:18:35,700
not have to live and spend a tremendous amount of time in time and transit or a lot of their income in getting to town.

1744
04:18:35,700 --> 04:18:45,700
this allows this workforce to live proximate to key jobs such as uf health and the va center. This forces people to live where

1745
04:18:50,482 --> 04:18:56,154
resources don't exist. It forces people to have longer commutes which places more pollution in our environment and

1746
04:18:56,154 --> 04:19:03,895
more congestion on our roads. That's unnecessary when we can take a parking lot next to tin no vegas district and two blocks

1747
04:19:03,895 --> 04:19:08,767
from campus and turn it into housing. And what it does then, because some people can't get over these

1748
04:19:08,767 --> 04:19:14,672
impediments, it creates underemployment in our community. And so I would argue very

1749
04:19:14,672 --> 04:19:21,112
strongly that urban infill is a way to solve a lot of the problems that we see. The workforce housing here will

1750
04:19:21,112 --> 04:19:28,887
increase the city's ability to retain and attack essential workforce because they can live right across the street from

1751
04:19:28,887 --> 04:19:33,158
where they work. It will encourage more pedestrian bicycle transportation right downtown

1752
04:19:33,158 --> 04:19:41,599
and facilitate the existing transit routes. I'm glad that mr. Posa said there are multiple routes that

1753
04:19:41,599 --> 04:19:47,906
serve this. And it reduces the strain on our system and public utilities by using existing water lines,

1754
04:19:47,906 --> 04:19:57,906
electric lines, gas lines, fiber optic because that system is built right there. We're infilling a piece of the

1755
04:19:58,820 --> 04:20:03,822
puzzle. This is not taxes resources and placing people out in western alachua county.

1756
04:20:03,822 --> 04:20:12,897
the pud conditions include 10% of the units to be constructed in perpetuity. There will be antic wit cabal

1757
04:20:12,897 --> 04:20:21,506
market rate, equitable access to all amenities for all tenants. There will be subsidy vouchers that have been put in place with

1758
04:20:21,506 --> 04:20:27,545
the gainesville housing authority and the memorandum of understanding is the legal document that has been tested,

1759
04:20:27,545 --> 04:20:33,351
adopted here at the city and will be used. And we're proud to say that prior to getting to the plan

1760
04:20:33,351 --> 04:20:41,459
board we actually had the mou adopted and we have that document already prepared for this project.

1761
04:20:41,459 --> 04:20:49,601
so when looking at a comprehensive plan amendment -- and this is a single acre -- we are creating a unique,

1762
04:20:49,601 --> 04:20:55,673
innovative and narrowly-construed land use proposal with unique design features that might otherwise

1763
04:20:55,673 --> 04:21:04,282
not be allowed in the underlying land use category. We've had to come up with an innovative way to make this

1764
04:21:04,282 --> 04:21:14,282
building work and to bring all of these components of land on one acre of land. There's consistency and

1765
04:21:15,326 --> 04:21:19,797
compatibility with the surrounding land uses. I wanted to stop there for a second.

1766
04:21:19,797 --> 04:21:29,107
we want to talk about additional data and analysis we've done since the plan board. There was discussion of

1767
04:21:29,107 --> 04:21:39,107
unraveling the thread of the neighborhood or the character of the land. I've done some work to show you

1768
04:21:39,417 --> 04:21:45,823
how this does strongly not impact the character of the area and creates what we would like to call the halo effect.

1769
04:21:45,823 --> 04:21:53,765
when those new residents live there, they will support the next restaurant, perhaps a clothing store or another type

1770
04:21:53,765 --> 04:22:01,565
of business and bring the fabric closer together. The environmental constraints are major.

1771
04:22:04,409 --> 04:22:14,900
you have no floodplain, you're not deforesting any portion of the city. We're converting asphalt to

1772
04:22:15,253 --> 04:22:19,457
land. And we're creating it in the urban core which is where it needs to be.

1773
04:22:19,457 --> 04:22:26,798
moreover, this affects affordable housing in a positive manner and affects our transportation system in a

1774
04:22:26,798 --> 04:22:33,871
manner by using nonsingle occupied vehicles as a primary way of getting around in the community.

1775
04:22:33,871 --> 04:22:41,450
we have looked at the facilities of water, sewer, obviously gas and electric and everything, and this is fine.

1776
04:22:41,450 --> 04:22:49,487
we don't have to have any additional acreage in this category created overall on the future land use map by merely

1777
04:22:49,487 --> 04:22:57,895
doing a pud. This certainly discourages urban sprawl because it gives folks an area to live on one acre in

1778
04:22:57,895 --> 04:23:04,402
town. And the need for job creation, capital investment and economic development, this has positive

1779
04:23:04,402 --> 04:23:10,174
effects on the future land use element, the housing element and the transportation element of our comprehensive plan.

1780
04:23:10,174 --> 04:23:16,314
and there's no need to modify the land use categories and development plans with antiquated subdivisions because

1781
04:23:16,314 --> 04:23:25,456
this is not a subdivision. It's a parking lot, effectively. So let's look at a little bit of what we did in the process.

1782
04:23:25,456 --> 04:23:33,665
we had three primary design consideration. The first that we submitted in december, when we began to work

1783
04:23:33,665 --> 04:23:43,665
with staff, proposed an e or reverse e-shaped building that was 12 stories and 172 feet with 327 units and 810 beds.

1784
04:23:44,108 --> 04:23:50,815
infinity hall is here and this is the only ca ventures project here at 931 west university avenue.

1785
04:23:50,815 --> 04:24:00,591
we began with work with staff after we submitted this and we came up with a refined design when trying to make this

1786
04:24:00,591 --> 04:24:07,732
building have a little more articulation. And we sculpted the top of the e off and flipped it along

1787
04:24:07,732 --> 04:24:14,238
2nd avenue to modulate it a little bit more. Staff still wanted us to come back with a proposal that had

1788
04:24:14,238 --> 04:24:23,614
less massing on the building itself. And so while we were working with architectural revisions, we

1789
04:24:23,614 --> 04:24:31,889
did adopt the mou from the housing authority with their expectation of 32 units in this building being delivered.

1790
04:24:31,889 --> 04:24:41,889
once the plan board saw and what forest presented in our presentations earlier here is what we call a blade, which

1791
04:24:41,933 --> 04:24:50,842
makes and brings the billing height down here on the north side -- we are looking to the east here, toward downtown, to

1792
04:24:50,842 --> 04:24:56,347
60 feet here, adjacent to the historic district. But with five floors in it as opposed to four.

1793
04:24:56,347 --> 04:25:05,490
and what it does, where that blue line sculpt through here, it takes this portion of the massing of the building and

1794
04:25:05,490 --> 04:25:11,950
brings this down to 60 feet. It was a long evening at the plan board. We had tie votes.

1795
04:25:11,950 --> 04:25:18,970
and there was a 3-3 vote on the land use and a 3-3 vote on the zoning and we asked somebody, please flip your vote one way or

1796
04:25:18,970 --> 04:25:23,841
the other so we can come to the commission and talk about this. Because this wasn't a full board that night.

1797
04:25:23,841 --> 04:25:29,714
it with us a really long discussion and we didn't have this slide where we can kind of look at comparison and contrast

1798
04:25:29,714 --> 04:25:39,714
of the full massing reversed e, sculpted out e and what I'm considering the step-down design here.

1799
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this is what's being presented to you this evening. It reduces the number of affordable housing units from 32

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down to 20. So it's about a 50% reduction was we've lost a good mass of the building.

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unbeknownst to us that evening, there was a presentation and resolution from the historic preservation board that came

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from. They had heard this project about a month before we got to the board, unbeknownst us to.

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and what this resolution contains, you see my pdf notes on here. This talks about wide spread

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reinvestment being harmed here and setting a dangerous precedent when in fact similar height, mass, scale and number

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of floors exists in every direction around this project. And we're glad that we saw this. It's little ironic that that was

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notarized the day after the plan board meeting and we had not known about that happening or we would have gone to the hpb and

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talked to them about this project. This is the historic district and it does have a unique notch

1808
04:26:52,663 --> 04:26:59,203
in it, which presents a really interesting thing. Because when you come off of here with a hundred-foot buffer,

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it creates a buffer where you can really utilize the height of the zoning district but elsewhere along the edge you

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can't. It's a little easier to see it like this. We took the historic district

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and google earth and made it oblique of that district. Here's 13th street, here's the university of florida campus,

1812
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here's norman hall, here's 2nd avenue, here's the hub one under construction and here is the site of the old alachua

1813
04:27:29,533 --> 04:27:36,841
general hospital here. The core of the I district. This is how the district looks. We carefully went around the

1814
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entirety of the district. And right across the street from this proposed project is infinity hall.

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infinity hall has five stories a I cross the street. To the north of the project is the hub.

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and the hub, the 100-foot penetrates well into that portion of the building. Here's another example on the

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north side of the district where there's a 4/8 story building into that red area which is the buffer -- I did that color-wise

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so you can see how it clips the building. The college manor building here, that old building, that's five

1819
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stories in height. To the south here is the lynn court apartments, it has five stories or five floors within

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the 100-foot area. And then over here on the south side is cascades. And cascades, as you can clearly

1821
04:28:33,164 --> 04:28:40,738
see here, sits inside that hundred-foot buffer with five stories. So my argument to you all is

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that what we were proposing now, looking from the northwest to the southeast across the historic district, that has five

1823
04:28:51,782 --> 04:28:58,789
floors within a hundred feet. This has four and eight floors within the hundred feet. That has five stories within the

1824
04:28:58,789 --> 04:29:04,595
hundred feet. That has five stories within a hundred feet. And that has five stories.

1825
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our proposal was to step down and bring the height down inside that. But we'd like to have the fifth

1826
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floor in there as opposed to four floors. We don't think it's tremendously detrimental to the area.

1827
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this pocket is a really unique, challenging area. But the context area has multiple examples where an extra

1828
04:29:24,515 --> 04:29:33,515
height lives in that buffer without detriment to the neighborhood or to the historic district.

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when you look at the property values -- and we went back after the plan board and took 2016, '17, '18, '19, '20, '21 and the

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04:29:46,270 --> 04:29:53,577
current assessed values of these problems in here to see if the increase of these newer buildings like infinity or the

1831
04:29:53,577 --> 04:30:02,530
hub or cascades has had a negative effect on investment in the district. This is what we found.

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we investigated dozens of property that exist in this portion of the district. Out of all of those properties

1833
04:30:12,363 --> 04:30:22,173
we grouped them as to where they were, whether they were adjacent to the hub or to infinity or college manor or cascades.

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our results show that in every instance, every one of those properties continued to appreciate in value.

1835
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because of the halo effect of investment in the district. In other words, a taller building in an area of downtown

1836
04:30:38,355 --> 04:30:48,355
did not take the value out of people's property. Moreover, we did find a couple of anomalies in there.

1837
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but when we looked at the average assessed value of all of the properties in this area, this is when the hub -- excuse

1838
04:30:54,672 --> 04:31:03,581
me, when lynn court came online, the y axis represents value, the x axis represents time. Each time another building was

1839
04:31:03,581 --> 04:31:10,454
brought in there, you can see values overall in all of the properties continue to appreciate.

1840
04:31:10,454 --> 04:31:20,454
this is not the detriment. The halo effect of urban investment is noted and a stabilizing effect on this area

1841
04:31:28,139 --> 04:31:38,139
of the city. So when talking about investing in historic properties, one thing did change from the plan

1842
04:31:43,120 --> 04:31:50,261
board tonight's meeting. One of these properties here was homesteaded. Every single property that

1843
04:31:50,261 --> 04:31:58,435
exists on the north side of 2nd a, the south side -- excuse me, 1st avenue. The north side of 2nd.

1844
04:31:58,435 --> 04:32:04,809
every one of these properties is a piece of commercial-owned real estate. I greatly value the fact that

1845
04:32:04,809 --> 04:32:12,116
neighborhoods are an important component because they are where neighbors are formed. Do understand the reality that

1846
04:32:12,116 --> 04:32:20,124
this is rental commercial property and yet it is all appreciated in value. So there is not one homesteaded

1847
04:32:20,124 --> 04:32:28,465
residential home in here and they have all still continued to rise in value because of the effect of the innovation

1848
04:32:28,465 --> 04:32:35,720
district and the university's investment here, c a's investment here, the hub's investment here and this will

1849
04:32:35,720 --> 04:32:45,720
not harm the district one bit. From a perspective of safety these existing curb cuts in common with the sidewalk will be

1850
04:32:51,288 --> 04:32:57,595
removed and the access to the building will be off of the alley making these continuous sidewalks here with the only

1851
04:32:57,595 --> 04:33:06,770
opening left the existing public alley here east-west. This shows you the floor plan. And on the ground wu can see the

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04:33:06,770 --> 04:33:14,345
parking spaces where they will have mechanical car lifts above them. That's how we end up getting 93

1853
04:33:14,345 --> 04:33:21,585
parks spaces in this building is by lifting cars off the ground. And that's a small number of parks spaces in here.

1854
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I don't like elevations. They don't really tell a good story. They very much look very blank

1855
04:33:27,570 --> 04:33:37,570
and kind of ghostly. But what I do like is when you look at the way things look like today, sweger have an existing

1856
04:33:37,902 --> 04:33:47,902
road network on-street parking. We need a little relief to allow this ground plain to go to a three to four-foot sidewalk to a

1857
04:33:50,648 --> 04:33:56,920
pedestrian realm that is appropriately scaled for people to walk side by side with a building set back with

1858
04:33:56,920 --> 04:34:05,296
protective zones, with adequate lighting underneath the canopies to illuminate the streets. And then residential doors and

1859
04:34:05,296 --> 04:34:13,971
nodes that are created all along 2nd avenue. And then there's actually little coves in here where people can

1860
04:34:13,971 --> 04:34:22,371
have friends over and utilize those as social recreation-type spaces. But this today, while

1861
04:34:22,980 --> 04:34:31,822
functioning as a sidewalk, is different than transitioning to an urban design space. Looking across that parking lot

1862
04:34:31,822 --> 04:34:40,300
today you see this view. Hopefully tomorrow or I'd say in a couple of years you would see this view.

1863
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this corner was cafford here along this edge to mirror what's on infinity hall. This was a skateboard recreation

1864
04:34:53,811 --> 04:35:00,250
area. But we put in all of this glass lighting to provide eyes on the street to improve the safety as

1865
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well as letting light transduce from this balcony and canopy here to keep this as a well-lighted portion of our

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urban area. This view shows you, looking to the north. This is the outdoor congregation

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04:35:19,770 --> 04:35:29,370
space as someone would come into the main entrance of the building. On-street parking would remain.

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and that's the future view along that area. Stoops going up to balconies and then cove areas for groups to

1869
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gather, study and enjoy each other's presence. For these reasons your staff have reviewed this across all of

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the professional departments of the city and to the plan board they recommended approval. We truly believe that infill can

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and does occur without detriment to the fabric of the city. And that's why your staff have once again reviewed this and

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provided to you in their staff report this evening a recommendation that this land use amendment be approved.

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I thank you very much for your time. I know that was a tremendous amount of information.

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we've been working on this for just about a year. So a lot of things have happened.

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thank you. We're here for any questions you may have. >> mayor: thank you very much.

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I appreciate the presentation. Let's go to the commission. We're going to start with commissioner arreola.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. I appreciate the presentation and all of the thoughtfulness that's gone into it.

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workforce housing, affordable housing, it's got a lot of promise. It does.

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mr. Mayor, I see a few lights but I'd like to go ahead and put the motion on the floor to accept the staff's

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recommendation. >> mayor: is there a second? >> second. >> mayor: motion and a second to

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move the staff's recommendation with the attached conditions. Thank you, commissioner arreola. Commissioner hayes-santos.

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>> thank you, mayor. I heard the motion on the floor but I believe we should go forward with one of the original

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two proposals that had more housing. We have an opportunity to give over 800 people homes.

1884
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that's homes over their houses. We have over 80 people who will get subsidized affordable housing.

1885
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that is incredibly needed in our community. And this is where it should be. This is a high-opportunity area,

1886
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public transit, work, schools, daily necessities, grocery stores, a doctor's office directly across the street.

1887
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everything you want is here and this is where we should be putting as much as possible the sites of affordable housing.

1888
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and the proposer wants to build more and we should let them build that. If we go with the smaller

1889
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version that's on the current motion, we will tell 300 people that they can't have a home here.

1890
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and it will also mean there will be 50% less affordable housing as part of that -- close to 50% less affordable housing as part

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of the project. I hope we don't let our -- there are definitely some people who are going to speak out against

1892
04:38:13,143 --> 04:38:22,850
this. But 300 people can have homes here where they want to live. Over 50% increase in the amount

1893
04:38:22,850 --> 04:38:28,492
of affordable housing that can be in this project. This project should move forward for a variety of reasons.

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04:38:28,492 --> 04:38:35,132
it will reduce pressure in near. By neighborhoods. I represent district 4 and university park and one of the

1895
04:38:35,132 --> 04:38:39,836
biggest complaints I get is students moving into that neighborhood. This will reduce the amount of

1896
04:38:39,836 --> 04:38:46,777
pressure. University is not increasing the number of students in their school.

1897
04:38:46,777 --> 04:38:54,184
so they will be able to go here. It will let people live close to school and employment. And also we shouldn't just

1898
04:38:54,184 --> 04:39:00,958
have -- I've heard we should only have tall building along the biggest major corridors. I don't think we should just

1899
04:39:00,958 --> 04:39:07,798
have them there. Our biggest corridors 13th and university have the most noise pollution and the most car

1900
04:39:07,798 --> 04:39:17,798
pollution as well. Southwest 2nd is a major corridor, doesn't have a lot of traffic but it the most biked

1901
04:39:19,309 --> 04:39:24,810
street in our city and amazing transit opportunities there as well. I mentioned many times on the

1902
04:39:24,810 --> 04:39:30,520
environment, this will reduce urban sprawl, climate change. I think this will probably be the most climate-friendly

1903
04:39:30,520 --> 04:39:37,194
building in the city when this is built when you look at a per capita basis with the very limited amount of parking per

1904
04:39:37,194 --> 04:39:43,400
building and with how walkable and bikeable this area is. That's the development we have to have.

1905
04:39:43,400 --> 04:39:49,106
we do have a climate crisis. Talking about affordable housing is not just for ten years or 20 years.

1906
04:39:49,106 --> 04:39:54,778
this is for the life of the building. And people on the gainesville housing authority's list, close

1907
04:39:54,778 --> 04:40:00,517
to 3,000 people are on that list. There will move them forward. They're going to directly get

1908
04:40:00,517 --> 04:40:08,125
that property. And I don't know what the market rate is going to be but looking in this area already, this will

1909
04:40:08,125 --> 04:40:14,164
be at least a thousand dollars off the monthly rent for a one bedroom. That's a significant difference

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04:40:14,164 --> 04:40:19,636
in people's lives. We can give more people that opportunity. This will make safety better,

1911
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better lighting, less cars. These same people are going to be here. They're moving here.

1912
04:40:24,741 --> 04:40:32,549
they'll move further out and have to drive in. Walking distance. Looking at this area within a

1913
04:40:32,549 --> 04:40:39,256
five-minute walk there's a bus that goes by almost every five minutes. This is one of the most

1914
04:40:39,256 --> 04:40:47,764
transit-rich areas and we should put as many people here possible as we can. For compatibility, within a few

1915
04:40:47,764 --> 04:40:56,473
hundred feet there's a 12-story building under construction on the corner of university and 8th street.

1916
04:40:56,473 --> 04:41:04,140
there's a building on construction on university avenue. You this is a tall building area

1917
04:41:04,140 --> 04:41:09,453
and it should be. It's next to the university, between downtown where we should have density and capacity for

1918
04:41:09,453 --> 04:41:14,224
that. While it is in that hundred-foot zone, this project is not the historic district.

1919
04:41:14,224 --> 04:41:21,565
but historic buildings can be tall. And I think you can create amazing mixing between modern

1920
04:41:21,565 --> 04:41:28,705
next to historic. And we don't have to set our city just in amber. We can make amazing kind of

1921
04:41:28,705 --> 04:41:35,305
changes there. And people make neighborhoods not buildings. Commissioner duncan-walker, I

1922
04:41:36,213 --> 04:41:45,655
read in the "gainesville sun" about alachua county's vote that they had yesterday or two days ago about the project on

1923
04:41:45,655 --> 04:41:52,729
southeast 15th street. You wrote -- you said I believe the only way you set up people for success is to put them

1924
04:41:52,729 --> 04:42:00,470
directly in an environment where it already is. This area is accessible. There are doctors' offices,

1925
04:42:00,470 --> 04:42:06,309
grocery stores. But we have to be intentional about where we put it and put people close to where the

1926
04:42:06,309 --> 04:42:11,314
resources are so they can thrive. This is where we should be putting affordable housing.

1927
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and I hope that we move forward with the larger version. Thank you, mayor. >> mr. Mayor, could you put the

1928
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staff's recommendations back up on the board. >> mayor: yes, we can. Do you have that?

1929
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or we could go back to the staff. Madam clerk, do you have control, madam clerk?

1930
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folks in the back, yeah, if we could go back to the staff presentation and then the staff recommendation slide towards the

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04:42:39,376 --> 04:42:44,381
end. That was written a little bit bigger. Thank you, commissioner

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chestnut. Commissioner saco. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. You came up and I was going to

1933
04:42:51,188 --> 04:42:57,160
ask you to come up anyway. Thank you. I have a question. Why did -- why did staff reject

1934
04:42:57,160 --> 04:43:05,368
the first two options in greater detail, just why. >> the main reason was because of the extra extent of the

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04:43:05,368 --> 04:43:12,242
massing and scaling. So we didn't really reject them at that stage. We went back to the applicant to

1936
04:43:12,242 --> 04:43:17,881
say here's what are some of the consideration and concerns that we expect our community to come at us with.

1937
04:43:17,881 --> 04:43:23,954
what can we do to address that. What are you able the do to address that. And to their credit they went

1938
04:43:23,954 --> 04:43:30,894
through several iterations to move to where this proposal is today. >> so this is already trying to

1939
04:43:30,894 --> 04:43:39,135
take into consideration some of the concerns, although in theory it should have been fine. Like technically fine prior.

1940
04:43:39,135 --> 04:43:45,750
>> I'm not -- well, technically if we had gone ahead and gone through this same process and showed that building with the

1941
04:43:45,750 --> 04:43:53,483
full extent, yes, this process can allow or accept that also. >> we could have had the technical option of saying,

1942
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yeah, go with that one. But the applicant has at least try to -- to try to reconform to some of those standard and

1943
04:44:03,960 --> 04:44:09,299
preferences for the community. >> that is true. >> I appreciate the back and forth option of communication

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04:44:09,299 --> 04:44:15,472
with the community to recognize the needs and the willingness to work with it. I think we could get a lot done

1945
04:44:15,472 --> 04:44:22,779
around here if we did more of that. To that end, you know, I'm on a similar page to commissioner

1946
04:44:22,779 --> 04:44:28,985
hayes-santos. I wish we had the bigger one. It breaks my heart to know that we're cutting the affordable

1947
04:44:28,985 --> 04:44:38,985
units by half, more than half. That said, I do want to be considerate, as staff knew that would be one of the real

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04:44:40,430 --> 04:44:44,868
sticking points for the community. I want to be considerate of that.

1949
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and on the other hand I kind of like the look of the building now. It's an interesting focal point

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04:44:55,478 --> 04:45:02,452
of how did you get that shape. Every city has a building like that. It's the [inaudible] building in

1951
04:45:02,452 --> 04:45:08,358
my view which is why is it like that, why is that there, a conversation starter when people visit.

1952
04:45:08,358 --> 04:45:18,358
I'm mostly trying to joke about that. But I think it has gainesville level of quirk, let's call it.

1953
04:45:18,835 --> 04:45:26,876
that said, I do appreciate what's being done with the sidewalks and the expansion of the lighting.

1954
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those are great enhancements for the neighborhood and great enhancements for the community [inaudible].

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a surface lot, the worst use of land I have ever seen in my life. I do have one kind of comparison

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to offer. Growing up in miami, coral gables is not far away. And if there is a rock on the

1957
04:45:57,407 --> 04:46:03,847
ground, they are try to commemorate. You can't touch the rock. The rock is historic.

1958
04:46:03,847 --> 04:46:13,847
anything say see, they will try. That said, their downtown which is -- it's like a mile long, I want to say -- has buildings of

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04:46:15,959 --> 04:46:22,132
every height, up to 12 or 13 stories. The building next door will be five and across the street will

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be a one, one and a half-ish, a stall one-story building. And a whole subdivision of housing at that one story, that

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whole swath down. The city has not burned down to the ground. Or lost property value.

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so I think it serves as an example of you can have a very dense and rich environment intermixed with buildings of not

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04:46:50,994 --> 04:46:58,501
identical height and it functions very well. That is very walkable. It has a variety of options for

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housing, for employment. It has a little trolley that goes by. I don't think it dissimilar to

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04:47:07,977 --> 04:47:15,985
our beloved toaster that is no longer here with us. I think it has great potential and I'm excited for it.

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I will go forward with staff's current recommendation out of consideration that if it were the whole bulk of it would be a

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lot for a neighborhood to look at. But we aren't the first place to have something like this and I

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think if coral gables can survive with their tree and green spaces with similar building ace cross the street, I

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think we can do the same. Thank you, mr. Mayor. >> mayor: commissioner arreola and hayes-santos do you mind if

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I get the commissioners that haven't spoken yet? >> I honestly wanted to ask a question of staff and the

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seconder but I can wait. >> mayor: okay. Thanks. We'll go to commissioner ward.

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>> thanks, mr. Mayor. Lots to talk about. There are many things, I'll say to the applicant, many things to

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04:48:16,813 --> 04:48:21,317
recommend this. I will say to folks who oppose it, many things to recommend against this.

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I will say to my colleagues, specifically commissioner saco, city staff has not cut the number of potential affordable

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units. That is entirely up to the applicant. It's not our job to be concerned

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with their finances nor will I suggest that we should be. They picked 10%, not us. And that's a reality.

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04:48:56,920 --> 04:49:05,920
I would love to see more. Twenty is nice. It's a start. It's not great.

1978
04:49:08,398 --> 04:49:14,704
I think we're about to prove that it's possible to do this with the building next door. Is there anybody from the

1979
04:49:14,704 --> 04:49:19,576
housing authority here tonight, by the way? Any representative? Okay.

1980
04:49:19,576 --> 04:49:29,576
>> I'm not seeing any. >> that's all right. There are a number of procedural issues that I have with this.

1981
04:49:35,124 --> 04:49:42,298
I'm trying to keep my impression of whether or not I think it's too big, too small, whatever, out of it.

1982
04:49:42,298 --> 04:49:52,298
the reality is that we have two boards that this body appointed who said don't do this, because a 3-3 vote is a failure.

1983
04:49:54,811 --> 04:50:04,811
so two boards that we appointed said don't do this. This body chose form base code right about five years ago.

1984
04:50:11,940 --> 04:50:20,303
one of the reasons that we implemented form-based code was to cut down on the number of pds.

1985
04:50:20,303 --> 04:50:30,130
to say that these are the rules. And if you abide by the rules, you can build. But as is fairly predictable, we

1986
04:50:30,130 --> 04:50:39,522
fall back into the habit -- and I don't blame the applicants for this at all for coming to us saying, hey, you can change the

1987
04:50:39,522 --> 04:50:43,960
rules. Will you change the rules for us. I don't hold that against you at

1988
04:50:43,960 --> 04:50:49,966
all. But we implemented form-based code specifically so that we would have fewer pds.

1989
04:50:49,966 --> 04:50:58,608
because our city is dotted with pds now and that doesn't always make sense. I completely understand what

1990
04:50:58,608 --> 04:51:06,883
we're trying to accomplish. I'm a fan of density where it makes sense and where the code says we should do it.

1991
04:51:06,883 --> 04:51:16,883
but we picked u-9 at this spot and we -- this body 20 years ago asked for a historic designation for the adjacent neighborhood.

1992
04:51:21,431 --> 04:51:31,310
and we can't pretend that those things didn't happen. They're realities. I'm very interested in hearing

1993
04:51:32,141 --> 04:51:42,141
from -- and I know this will take a little while, but because we have some folks here, I would like to hear from, from our

1994
04:51:46,856 --> 04:51:52,695
historic presentation staff, if possible. I know there is or was a plan board member here.

1995
04:51:52,695 --> 04:51:58,601
it would be nice to hear their perspective. And I would also like to hear from the chair of the historic

1996
04:51:58,601 --> 04:52:08,601
preservation board who is here. That will take a little while but I would like their perspectives.

1997
04:52:09,979 --> 04:52:17,720
madam manager, do you mind if I call up the historic presentation. >> mayor: if it's a citizen on

1998
04:52:17,720 --> 04:52:26,229
the citizen board, they can have the same time as a citizen. But yeah, if we want to invite ms. Coffman up, if that's okay

1999
04:52:26,229 --> 04:52:33,429
with the manager. >> yes, mayor. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. >> mayor: of course.

2000
04:52:38,875 --> 04:52:46,849
>> thank you, ms. Coffman. I'm just interested in hearing your perspective on this. And -- you were with the

2001
04:52:46,849 --> 04:52:52,121
historic preservation board when they made their decisions. I would like to hear your thoughts.

2002
04:52:52,121 --> 04:52:58,494
>> mr. Mayor, members of the commission, I won't take up much of your time. As you know, staff has

2003
04:52:58,494 --> 04:53:06,350
recommended approval of this project. And forrest actually did a really wonderful job of going

2004
04:53:06,350 --> 04:53:16,350
through all of the issues. Though we recommended approval there are issues and most of that is because there is a

2005
04:53:16,145 --> 04:53:22,585
historic district there. And I appreciate you giving me just a couple of seconds just to point out some things to you.

2006
04:53:22,585 --> 04:53:30,226
unlike the lorax, I speak for the historic districts. The character of that district, I'm sure you've been through it.

2007
04:53:30,226 --> 04:53:37,330
there's a lot of revitalization happening. Some of the developers that you know do a great job of saving

2008
04:53:37,330 --> 04:53:47,330
what's there and building new stuff around it. So that is happening. The thing about the hundred-foot

2009
04:53:47,143 --> 04:53:52,548
buffer, you know, we're talking about four stories is allowed currently and they want five stories.

2010
04:53:52,548 --> 04:54:00,289
this is the only district that allows the four stories. The rest of the historic districts you could build up to

2011
04:54:00,289 --> 04:54:06,162
three stories in that hundred-foot buffer. So at whatever time you created that buffer for the historic

2012
04:54:06,162 --> 04:54:14,937
districts, this was the only district that you gave four stories to. They also want to go from six

2013
04:54:14,937 --> 04:54:23,346
dwelling units to 204 max. And forrest has been through all of that with you. What I do want to point out to

2014
04:54:23,346 --> 04:54:33,289
you is that the hundred-foot buffer line that you saw the overview map of didn't show you the south side of the 12-story

2015
04:54:33,289 --> 04:54:39,562
face of the building, which is potentially about half a block long. So that 12-story face of the

2016
04:54:39,562 --> 04:54:47,670
building is directly across the street from the historic district. It is all historic buildings.

2017
04:54:47,670 --> 04:54:54,710
they're all contributing structures on that side, on that block. The issue is that southwest

2018
04:54:54,710 --> 04:55:03,719
2nd avenue is so wide with the median and the hundred-foot goes right to the property line. So it didn't go into the

2019
04:55:03,719 --> 04:55:11,394
property and therefore it didn't affect, you know, how they could build or what they're proposing to build right there.

2020
04:55:11,394 --> 04:55:20,369
but I want to make sure you understand that 12-story building, the 12-story piece of it is facing the historic

2021
04:55:20,369 --> 04:55:29,312
district. And that's about all I really want to point out to you. Our residents and property

2022
04:55:29,312 --> 04:55:36,352
owners that live there, they already live under an additional regulation because they're in an historic district.

2023
04:55:36,352 --> 04:55:44,930
and I think in return they kind of expect to be protected by the codes we already have in place. Thank you for your time.

2024
04:55:44,930 --> 04:55:48,297
>> thank you. >> mayor: thank you, ms. Coffman. >> since I have you as a captive

2025
04:55:48,297 --> 04:55:56,639
audience can I tell you one thing totally off topic. But last month was my first year anniversary at the city and I

2026
04:55:56,639 --> 04:56:03,613
love it so much. I have the best coworkers and team to work with. You're very fortunate to have

2027
04:56:03,613 --> 04:56:09,180
the people you have in the planning department and the sustainability department. It's been really great.

2028
04:56:09,180 --> 04:56:13,789
thank you. >> mayor: thank you. And congratulations. >> do you have any questions?

2029
04:56:13,789 --> 04:56:16,692
>> I'm good. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Mayor. >> mayor: okay.

2030
04:56:16,692 --> 04:56:21,631
thank you. Commissioner chestnut. >> thank you. Thank you, mr. Mayor.

2031
04:56:21,631 --> 04:56:28,871
and thank you, commissioner ward. You were leading down the path that I wanted to take as well.

2032
04:56:28,871 --> 04:56:38,871
I'm sitting here. Am I mistaken or is the public mistaken -- where's the 12 stories coming from?

2033
04:56:39,480 --> 04:56:49,480
sitting here it would seem that that's not what you're talking about. >> we'll go to the elevations.

2034
04:56:51,193 --> 04:57:01,193
does this help with answering the question? So we've got the first floor, one, two, three, four, five,

2035
04:57:04,273 --> 04:57:10,913
six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12. >> thank you. Because I heard four, then I

2036
04:57:10,913 --> 04:57:17,453
heard five. But the public is talking about 12. And 12 not being compatible with

2037
04:57:17,453 --> 04:57:24,760
the historic district, that is the reason that the plan board turned this down and that is the reason I believe that the

2038
04:57:24,760 --> 04:57:34,760
historic preservation board turned it down. So as a matter of compatibility. And that is what concerns me.

2039
04:57:35,438 --> 04:57:42,578
now when we talk about -- I guess the greatest caveat that everybody uses now is to say that they're going to give

2040
04:57:42,578 --> 04:57:51,578
housing, 10%, 5% house in perpetuity. Tell me exactly how many units are we talking about of

2041
04:57:52,555 --> 04:57:58,527
affordable housing that we would end up with here? >> the 20. >> twenty.

2042
04:57:58,527 --> 04:58:07,527
so the community is trading not having a compatible structure, violating its historic preservation board

2043
04:58:12,374 --> 04:58:22,374
recommendation, violating the plan board recommendation to get 20 units that really may not end up being there anyway.

2044
04:58:24,186 --> 04:58:34,186
so I'm just concerned that if we keep modifying and not standing by our own standards, then what, what do our standards really

2045
04:58:37,600 --> 04:58:43,739
stand for. What does it really mean. I think that this building is out of character with the whole

2046
04:58:43,739 --> 04:58:49,979
surrounding area. And historic preservation is important to me. Thank you.

2047
04:58:49,979 --> 04:58:55,818
>> mayor: thank you. We'll go back around. Commissioner arreola. >> yeah.

2048
04:58:55,818 --> 04:59:02,858
I just wanted to get a clarification. So how exactly are the affordable units maintained

2049
04:59:02,858 --> 04:59:08,764
affordable in perpetuity? I'd like to get that explanation for the commission just to clear up any misconceptions.

2050
04:59:08,764 --> 04:59:13,469
>> with the memorandum of understanding and the executed agreements with the housing authority.

2051
04:59:13,469 --> 04:59:20,690
and deed restrictions. >> it's guaranteed affordable housing with those units? >> yes.

2052
04:59:22,645 --> 04:59:30,445
>> okay. So clearing that up. I understand all of the arguments being made.

2053
04:59:32,922 --> 04:59:42,922
there is going to be some give and take always. A project like this is going to have an impact, but that delta

2054
04:59:47,603 --> 04:59:56,946
going to be overall good for folks who are now going to be able to get into these homes. I appreciate folks who disagree

2055
04:59:56,946 --> 05:00:04,787
with me. That's okay. But the housing crisis in gainesville isn't going to get

2056
05:00:04,787 --> 05:00:10,787
any better without new housing. Thank you. >> mayor: commissioner hayes-santos.

2057
05:00:11,493 --> 05:00:19,340
>> thank you, mayor. I was wondering if the maker or the seconder would be interested in proposal number two, which is

2058
05:00:19,340 --> 05:00:23,772
what the applicant came back with. It still has the more housing but it broke it up and reduced

2059
05:00:23,772 --> 05:00:33,772
the massing of the structure and it still kind of gives that quirkiness that commissioner saco was talking about but it

2060
05:00:38,153 --> 05:00:43,392
provides more affordable housing. >> what is the difference. >> mayor: I think you'll have to

2061
05:00:43,392 --> 05:00:53,392
go back to the applicant's presentation. >> three hundred units or... >> as soon as that comes back up

2062
05:00:55,437 --> 05:01:05,370
I'm happy to put that back there. I think what you wanted to see was that.

2063
05:01:14,490 --> 05:01:21,300
and, mr. Mayor, may I add one thing? I believe these are very complicated issues and when

2064
05:01:21,300 --> 05:01:28,971
we're talking about the land use. I do want to state, though, this building, if you were to look at

2065
05:01:28,971 --> 05:01:38,971
a form-based code envelope or box, the reason that this one is sculpted is because this -- >> mayor: you pointed that one.

2066
05:01:39,248 --> 05:01:43,519
thank you. >> why don't I point at the one you all can see. Yeah.

2067
05:01:43,519 --> 05:01:49,391
that the reason this is the tall portion is because this is outside of the historic district buffer.

2068
05:01:49,391 --> 05:01:58,167
there is no buffer -- or the buffer I should say from the south side does not extend over and touch -- does not touch.

2069
05:01:58,167 --> 05:02:06,175
that's why this blade was increased in size here and here. Wherever the buffer touched, these building heights here are

2070
05:02:06,175 --> 05:02:16,151
within the volume of the 60 feet of the district. So the only area that is elevated up.

2071
05:02:16,151 --> 05:02:22,691
we call these jelly models because it shows you the plates of the floors. But that massing was placed

2072
05:02:22,691 --> 05:02:27,296
along because it is not in the district. I realize there are structures across the street but they do

2073
05:02:27,296 --> 05:02:34,370
not place a regulatory buffer in the portion of the projects. The buffer comes from the north in that little nook that's

2074
05:02:34,370 --> 05:02:39,341
created. It swipes through this building and these two. That's why this was brought

2075
05:02:39,341 --> 05:02:46,810
down. This is the second option where the e effectively was turned from a reverse e and flipped so

2076
05:02:46,810 --> 05:02:56,810
that along 2nd avenue there would be areas for interior setbacks, you could have amenity areas here and it gives more

2077
05:02:56,258 --> 05:03:02,898
playfulness. This was an interim opportunity or an option where we looked at taking that big bolt of a

2078
05:03:02,898 --> 05:03:12,898
building as a solid shape and inverting these areas to create courtyards and gardens. I appreciate the analogies being

2079
05:03:13,308 --> 05:03:19,682
made. Having watched the streets of new york and chelsea and soho last week, it's completely

2080
05:03:19,682 --> 05:03:29,682
normal to have two story billings next to other buildings and they live harmoniously. Neighborhoods are built by

2081
05:03:29,992 --> 05:03:37,533
built. This obviously we lost a chunk of the building here. Cuts the number down to 20 in

2082
05:03:37,533 --> 05:03:44,106
perpetuity. >> mayor: so I think the question was did you want to change your motion.

2083
05:03:44,106 --> 05:03:51,947
>> I have a question, then. >> I think it will depend -- >> mayor: we have a motion on the floor.

2084
05:03:51,947 --> 05:04:01,156
so unless the maker wants to change that, let's go ahead and stick with this which is the staff recommendation which is

2085
05:04:01,156 --> 05:04:07,362
represented by the third option here. Commissioner saco. >> thank you, mr. Mayor.

2086
05:04:07,362 --> 05:04:16,705
quick question. If you go with option two, what is the height of the that stand-alone building.

2087
05:04:16,705 --> 05:04:22,611
>> the stand-alone building here was taller at 12 but it can be knocked down to make it this. >> and you don't have the

2088
05:04:22,611 --> 05:04:29,551
numbers for that? >> I know that jay could probably tell me really, fairly quickly if he took six floors or

2089
05:04:29,551 --> 05:04:35,190
six plates out of there, how many units would be lost. >> so let him calculate the math.

2090
05:04:35,190 --> 05:04:43,732
but my question then becomes because that is inside the zone. That is inside the buffer zone. That's why we made that one the

2091
05:04:43,732 --> 05:04:49,338
smaller one. >> that's correct. >> I do believe in our code. I do believe making exceptions

2092
05:04:49,338 --> 05:04:58,514
if there is a benefit. I personally think that would be an excessive deviation at that point just because of the 12

2093
05:04:58,514 --> 05:05:03,152
stories. It is immediately inside that zone. And I think we should respect

2094
05:05:03,152 --> 05:05:08,957
this zone. >> that building is really cut very heavily by the hundred-foot arcs off of here.

2095
05:05:08,957 --> 05:05:14,290
>> it's a weird -- it's a weird shape. I think we've all acknowledged that one.

2096
05:05:14,290 --> 05:05:24,290
>> agreed. >> but that said, I'm willing to consider that second plan if the stand-alone building abides by

2097
05:05:24,206 --> 05:05:34,206
the buffer limitations. You know, as far as, you know, do we do what our code tells us. Yes.

2098
05:05:37,319 --> 05:05:41,390
are we allowed to deviate from it. Yes. >> have we followed those.

2099
05:05:41,390 --> 05:05:45,861
yes. >> has staff approved that. Yes. We have not done anything not

2100
05:05:45,861 --> 05:05:54,770
lord allowed by our code. This isn't me going up with a marker and designing with a scribble this is how we're going

2101
05:05:54,770 --> 05:06:00,976
to outline the city. We're doing what we are required and you have met those requirement.

2102
05:06:00,976 --> 05:06:08,917
you have met your requirements, we are meeting our requirements at the suggestion of staff. Our personal likes and dislike I

2103
05:06:08,917 --> 05:06:17,317
don't think should play much into this. Because well above that, this provides housing.

2104
05:06:17,659 --> 05:06:24,466
and I had someone the other day tell me, housing shouldn't have to be apartments. You're right.

2105
05:06:24,466 --> 05:06:30,772
fine. But an apartment is housing. And to someone who is desperate for housing, that is better than

2106
05:06:30,772 --> 05:06:40,772
a palace. When my family got here, we literally had nothing and didn't speak english, a really terrible

2107
05:06:40,782 --> 05:06:48,657
run-down apartment was home because we were sheltered and my parents could be independent and keep me independent together in

2108
05:06:48,657 --> 05:06:56,298
that hovel of an apartment. That matter to people. >> it does. >> so everybody likes living in

2109
05:06:56,298 --> 05:07:01,503
a mansion. Maybe. I wouldn't. It's a lot of cleaning.

2110
05:07:01,503 --> 05:07:07,309
but it provides housing. And if we could make a little modify to keep within that buffer and respect that buffer,

2111
05:07:07,309 --> 05:07:17,219
I'd be fine with it. I do have a question. Would you require it to be a pd to have that condition of

2112
05:07:17,219 --> 05:07:23,225
affordability in perpetuity? To seal it in you need it to be a pd? >> yes, mr. Mayor.

2113
05:07:23,225 --> 05:07:32,634
the reason we're choosing the pud-pd mechanism, not just to work on the geometry and the roundabout is to permanently

2114
05:07:32,634 --> 05:07:39,308
encode in the land use ordinance and in the zoning ordinance that this will have workforce housing universities forever in the

2115
05:07:39,308 --> 05:07:44,980
building. Not only then is there the mou and the deed restriction, there is a zoning and a land use

2116
05:07:44,980 --> 05:07:51,219
ordinance that mandates that that will always have the workforce housing units in it in perpetuity.

2117
05:07:51,219 --> 05:07:56,190
>> it's triple clad. >> yeah. Yes. Mr. Mayor, yes.

2118
05:07:58,860 --> 05:08:08,300
as commissioner saco is saying, the pud allows us to do that. We couldn't do u-9 with perpetual workforce housing in

2119
05:08:08,300 --> 05:08:13,241
it. There's in way to condition straight zoning so we have to go the pud-pd route.

2120
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>> I knew the answer but I appreciate when it helps out with the expert. So if anybody could give me that

2121
05:08:20,382 --> 05:08:30,382
modify -- the modification to two... >> so the delta, mr. Silverman is telling me, is that you lose

2122
05:08:39,534 --> 05:08:48,910
here about 50 units by taking those floors here on the north stand-alone building out. So about ten units per floor,

2123
05:08:48,910 --> 05:08:54,716
five plates, jay, if I'm saying that correctly. >> [inaudible] >> we're going down seven plates

2124
05:08:54,716 --> 05:09:02,624
and be losing about 50 units by taking the height out of here. Which you can kind of see hiding here or behind here on the

2125
05:09:02,624 --> 05:09:08,463
north. We lose about 50 units there. >> that's 50 units so five affordable units.

2126
05:09:08,463 --> 05:09:15,604
which I'm not great at math. Leaves us at 27. >> that would push the number from 20 back up to 27.

2127
05:09:15,604 --> 05:09:21,977
>> okay. If the maker of the motion is okay with that, that is what I am comfortable with so that we

2128
05:09:21,977 --> 05:09:27,716
are respecting the hundred-foot boundary. That's what I would be comfortable with if any changes

2129
05:09:27,716 --> 05:09:36,291
were to be made. And to just close up, I know our boards may not necessarily always agree with what we do,

2130
05:09:36,291 --> 05:09:43,999
but our boards weren't elected. They were picked to advise. And we can listen to that advise and then we seven can use our

2131
05:09:43,999 --> 05:09:53,875
own individual critical thinking skills to determine what our electorate asked us to do and entrusted us to do.

2132
05:09:53,875 --> 05:09:58,547
and sometimes that's build housing. Something being old might be really great.

2133
05:09:58,547 --> 05:10:08,356
but you can't house a bunch of families in one older building. Just because something is old doesn't mean it's important.

2134
05:10:08,356 --> 05:10:15,997
I'm going to value housing humans over preserving where someone stood once to tie their shoes.

2135
05:10:15,997 --> 05:10:24,720
thank you, mr. Mayor. >> mayor: commissioner ward. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. Just very briefly.

2136
05:10:24,720 --> 05:10:32,514
you don't need a pd to build a deed restriction in. Correct? I mean, am I missing something

2137
05:10:32,514 --> 05:10:36,785
there? I mean I understand you don't want to. And I don't blame you.

2138
05:10:36,785 --> 05:10:43,558
that's not -- you're not here to build specifically affordable housing, but you could build a deed restriction in under the

2139
05:10:43,558 --> 05:10:51,433
current code. >> well that would be a de facto condition on the pd and the zoning.

2140
05:10:51,433 --> 05:10:59,307
the flip side of that coin that we encountered in the other project that jerry and I did with this very same formula was

2141
05:10:59,307 --> 05:11:05,947
well, how does the city -- how does the city ensure if there is some kind of breach of that deed restriction.

2142
05:11:05,947 --> 05:11:12,454
we don't really have any standing to enforce that. So we really need that regulatory standing in our

2143
05:11:12,454 --> 05:11:18,159
zoning and pud. You've got to have the whole package. And that was in discussions with

2144
05:11:18,159 --> 05:11:28,159
the city, with staff. We have to develop a restrictive covenant if it gets recorded and it provides ability for the city

2145
05:11:29,404 --> 05:11:37,379
to to -- the city doesn't really have informal rights because our agreement is with the gainesville housing authority as

2146
05:11:37,379 --> 05:11:45,587
adopted by this board and the pd and pud by reference. We try to knit the whole thing together for you.

2147
05:11:45,587 --> 05:11:53,161
so just a stand-alone deed restriction would not work for you, in my opinion. >> so we couldn't enforce but

2148
05:11:53,161 --> 05:11:59,534
you could build, you and the housing authority and whoever you sell or rent to could certainly have that restriction

2149
05:11:59,534 --> 05:12:04,720
built in. The city of gainesville just couldn't enforce it. >> yes.

2150
05:12:04,720 --> 05:12:09,611
and the interest was in the part of your staff, your legal staff to have enforceability because you've made a promise to the

2151
05:12:09,611 --> 05:12:16,840
public by virtue of your vote that you're providing these units in perpetuity and you certainly want to be able to

2152
05:12:16,840 --> 05:12:20,789
stand behind that. >> right. So yeah, it's a relatively minor point.

2153
05:12:20,789 --> 05:12:27,280
>> no. It's very important. >> you could make that deal. We just can't enforce it.

2154
05:12:27,280 --> 05:12:33,134
>> it wouldn't work according to your legal staff. >> it wouldn't work for us to enforce it.

2155
05:12:33,134 --> 05:12:37,806
>> correct. >> yes. And the public interest in having that ability.

2156
05:12:37,806 --> 05:12:45,413
and then, mr. Mayor, on the question that came up regarding 10%, where that came from -- and I think in the other project we

2157
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did we explained to this board that the lending community is new to this consent. They're comfortable with ten.

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we try to push them to 15. We're not there yet. But we've got to have proof of concept with a couple of the

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projects and then I think you'll see the number increase as we move along. So ten is better than nothing.

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thank you. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. >> mayor: thank you. >> on that point --

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>> mayor: I'll get right back to you, commissioner. Commissioner arreola. >> I'm willing to accept the

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friendly amendment. >> mayor: is the staff recommendation with conditions with the exception of creating

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that smaller stand-alone building under the parameters of the third option there, but then everything else the second

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option. >> the second option minus seven stories. >> mayor: thank you.

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does the seconder accept? >> yes, mr. Mayor. >> mayor: commissioner chestnut. >> thank you.

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mr. Mayor, I have been here a short time and we've had developers come up and I want to be certain that I'm hearing this

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correctly. We've had developers guarantee that we were going to have housing, affordable housing in

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perpetuity. So now I'd like for the staff to answer, so you're saying that is not something that is true?

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that is not something that is going to stand? Is that what I'm hearing? >> no.

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>> that's what it sounded like you were saying. >> no. We're saying --

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>> mayor: let's let our staff answer. That's really a question for our staff.

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>> so the three projects that have incorporated -- sorry. Andrew persons, special adviser. The three projects that the city

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commission has approved in the past year have all been pd-zoned properties. So there's the lincoln ventures

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project which was the one on university avenue. There's archer place which is out on old archer road.

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and then the project before you tonight. So those are all pd-zoned properties.

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and as the discussion was -- the pd zoning is additional -- is essentially a condition to allow the city commission to put

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conditions on the development, including the requirement for affordable housing. I think all told, depending on

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what happens here tonight, the city will have added 68 perpetual affordable housing units between those three

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projects for zero dollars to the city. So it is a little bit -- I'm not speaking about this project but

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sit a prof of consent with these three projects with the pd zoning. The city is looking at how do we

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take this from what it is today, which is essentially sort of an ad hoc process into something, baking it into your actual

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regulations that this is a requirement for all project other a certain size. >> thank you for the

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clarification. >> mayor: thank you, commissioner chestnut. >> thank you.

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>> thank you, commissioner chestnut. Commissioner hayes-santos. >> thank you, mayor.

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>> putting value on the cost of the unit it's around 10 million dollars. >>mayor: I will reserve my

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comments until after we hear from the neighbors. I know you've been here for a while and been patient.

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we appreciate that. Ma'am clerk, I will turn it over to you to hear from the public.

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>> taylor simmons. >> just in case anyone is new. You have three minutes.

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you have to introduce yourself. When your time starts you will see a green light.

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when you have one minute left you will see a yellow. When the red light comes on that means your time is

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expired. >> welcome. >> hi, I'm a junior at the university of florida.

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I kind of have to speak from the heart a little bit because of what's been said. My hope is that the

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commission pursues a pd. I want to build as many houses for people as possible.

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I understand neighborhood character in historic districts. We also have to understand

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we are talking about university heights south and the innovation district. If you've ever gone through

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this area, you know, I think everybody understands it's a denser area. I don't think that this kind

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of urban density is so out of the question. I think as the planners pointed out, there are

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larger complexes north, south, east and west. And so too, I think we should pursue the project

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05:18:03,197 --> 05:18:12,600
it's not necessarily out of character in the area. Just across the street there's -- there's a

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complex. At the end of the day what we are talking about this area is mostly a parking

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lot. I want this area to be developed. I want to use it

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productively. I want to use it to house people. It's a great area.

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it's a great area for opportunities. It's a great area for walkability.

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and I think it would be a -- I think it would be shame for the city to reject this.

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thank you. >> mr. Mayor, commissioners, I'm bill warner. I'm a preservation architect

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and realtor and vice chair of the preservation board. The structure located on the northwest corner of west

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university avenue and 13th street is not a standard that I would like to see set in our community.

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05:19:24,120 --> 05:19:33,612
generally, and for the proposed site specifically. What the developer has proposed in terms of scale

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05:19:37,859 --> 05:19:44,365
gives the finger to the historic preservation in our community. Generally and to the

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university heights district specifically. It is a failure in our code that when a right-of-way

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puts the subject property a matter of inches beyond the edge of the district, that it's considered not

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05:20:09,590 --> 05:20:16,790
contiguous. We are experiencing strong developer interest in maximizing every square foot

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possible. And building it as cheaply as possible without regard to the negative impact on

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the setting. Fortunately we have guidelines and standards for properties within our

2215
05:20:35,216 --> 05:20:43,616
historic districts. It's time to develop guidelines and standards for the properties within our

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05:20:43,624 --> 05:20:53,224
commercial areas. They have figured out how to develop in historic district -- why can't the

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applicant. >> next speaker is michael hill. >> he might still be here.

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we will come back to him. >> vivishna maholty. >> that's okay. Thank you, mayor and

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05:21:28,503 --> 05:21:34,442
commission members for providing me and the rest of your constituents with the opportunity to speak today.

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I'm a freshman at the university of florida and a member of gainesville is for people a group fighting for

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housing. I'm here today to speak in favor of both petitions. This proposed development is

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a much-needed part of gainesville's effort to alleviate our housing crisis.

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I'm originally from tampa, florida. I had chemistry toucher in my senior year named mr. K.

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he was an associate professor at the university of south florida. Despite this he struggled to

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afford the increasing rental rates in his apartment. His share of the rent had soared from nearly 800 to

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05:22:23,291 --> 05:22:30,698
closer to 1400. I know that you can all empathize with his story. Why should a hard-working

2227
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immigrant teacher struggle to afford housing near his place of work. Similarly, why should anyone

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in gainesville students and residents alike struggle to afford increasing housing cost?

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this complex along with all other new housing developments will work to reduce housing cost in

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gainesville. We should not discourage development in this already dense vibrant and walkable

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05:22:57,358 --> 05:23:03,865
area of our city. We should, in fact, encourage this development. The proposal includes 10%

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05:23:03,865 --> 05:23:10,171
workforce housing and it is located across from the already-constructed infinity hall dorms.

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05:23:10,171 --> 05:23:18,246
this housing project with affordability units located in a dense bustling area. It's replacing a parking

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05:23:18,246 --> 05:23:23,584
lot. I think that a housing building providing many units to our citizens sound

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05:23:23,584 --> 05:23:30,691
a lot better than a parking lot. This proposal will protect and prevent uf students from

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pursuing housing in existing gainesville neighborhoods. And it will work to provide competition in the

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05:23:37,765 --> 05:23:41,769
marketplace and against other housing units in the area. It will send a clear message

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to all constituents, we value affordability over aesthetics. Councilmembers, I strongly,

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05:23:49,777 --> 05:23:57,385
strongly urge you to approve the land changes to tune of full 12 stories to maximize this housing development and

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build gainesville core into a more dense mixed use neighborhood. As well as to provide more

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housing units to uf students and local community members. Limiting the number of stories of this development

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is unnecessary. It will only prevent the full benefits of this project from taking effect.

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thank you very much for your consideration today. >> thank you. >> madam clerk.

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>> next speaker is peter mcneese followed by melanie barr. >> good evening

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commissioners, mr. Mayor. >> I'm a resident and a civil engineer and building contractor and licensed real

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estate broker. I've spent the better part of the last 15 years of my professional career building

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05:24:55,743 --> 05:25:02,883
infill develop development projects in the university heights south area that are compatible with the historic

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building that are there now. I know it can be done right. Surely there's some limit as to what you will approve.

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if the applicant came with 20-story building would that be considered too much? What we found here is that

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there's a loophole that developers can use to circumvent if rules we have in place by offering a 10%

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workforce. They really are getting a windfall in 184 market rate student apartments within

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05:25:37,985 --> 05:25:45,993
two books of -- blocks of the university of florida. I'm pro development. And I agree this parking lot

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should be developed. And it should be developed -- I would like to have seen something more

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compatible with the community. But I would like to encourage the commission not

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to expect the applicants to offer more than 10% workforce housing. Because if you are willing

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to accept 10% that's all they are going to offer. Where I as I think you should ask for more in

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return. Because this is a big ask. And that 100-foot buffer put in there by code to prevent

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these large multifamily projects from being built. This is the specific purpose of that buffer zone.

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the other thing is that developers are often very shrewd how they present this to you.

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they talk about market rate housing. But formula, that they use includes tioga and hale

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05:26:41,882 --> 05:26:45,453
plantation which have high incomes. When you use the metropolitan gainesville

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05:26:45,453 --> 05:26:52,359
area to calculate what the rents are going to be, it's almost double what they would be if you only

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included the median household income in the city of gainesville. People that live inside the

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perimeter of gainesville in general have -- they make half of what you make in that general metropolitan

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area that they would like to use when calculating rents. I ask you consider that as well and I know this has

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been recommended that you approve with conditions and perhaps that's something that is a condition that you

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can ask for that they change the calculous. >> clerk? >> melanie barr followed by

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jennifer murphy. >> hi. I think everybody knows who I am.

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I'm a historic preservationest. Back in the day when I first got involved in that you had

2270
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to personally own historic house in order to preserve it. Because there was no

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historic districts. Back in '82, 40 years ago I bought my first historic house.

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I bought it to save it. Because people were closing in porches. Putting metal windows in.

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05:28:13,707 --> 05:28:20,481
taking out footed tubs. I wanted to restore this house correctly. Now historic districts are

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05:28:20,481 --> 05:28:24,618
enacted. And we hope that we can restore the neighborhoods correctly.

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05:28:24,618 --> 05:28:34,228
and I'm going to show you this map. I'm showing you a map. You did see something like

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05:28:34,228 --> 05:28:43,228
this earlier. And this is the site we're looking at today. So the historic district

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05:28:45,372 --> 05:28:51,579
circles around this site. I know exactly why. Because I was out photographing houses and

2278
05:28:51,579 --> 05:28:58,179
there was some lovely historic bungalows on this site. Beautiful high-quality

2279
05:28:58,586 --> 05:29:05,292
bungalows because this was not a historic district that could be prevented. I saw this building being

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built. I saw one of the bungalows become a parking lot. Now we are here today

2281
05:29:10,640 --> 05:29:17,404
talking about allowing a is 12-story building there. If we only had the historic district intact at that

2282
05:29:17,404 --> 05:29:23,344
point we wouldn't be having this discussion. Now we have it. And I think as the staff

2283
05:29:23,344 --> 05:29:32,319
person for the developer mentioned that on the perimeter, it's mostly five story building with one

2284
05:29:32,319 --> 05:29:39,360
8-story building. I think five-story buildings would be a good choice to have that building there.

2285
05:29:39,360 --> 05:29:46,000
instead of what they are proposing. If you saw the picture it's a massive block.

2286
05:29:46,000 --> 05:29:54,408
and if you are coming up the district, you are looking at the giant wall that blocks the sky or driving along.

2287
05:29:54,408 --> 05:29:59,213
that's a concrete canyon. Very inappropriate for the center of the historic contradict.

2288
05:29:59,213 --> 05:30:03,851
you see all the little bungalows here. That's what they will be looking at.

2289
05:30:03,851 --> 05:30:08,789
this prompt is 100 feet from them, from the end of their property. And it's a terrible view.

2290
05:30:08,789 --> 05:30:14,895
think about this visually. A lot of you were raised in gainesville or lived here a long time.

2291
05:30:14,895 --> 05:30:21,502
and you would think you want to keep gainesville, gainesville. Another thing they didn't

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mention is the large trees at the perimeter. They show a sidewalk there. We need to keep gainesville

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05:30:26,840 --> 05:30:30,177
green. We need to keep the trees and houses and the neighborhood.

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05:30:30,177 --> 05:30:38,686
this is not a neighborly building. This is a massive block wall that will block the sky, be

2295
05:30:38,686 --> 05:30:45,359
uncomfortable to drive-by. >> appreciate it. >> you're in a canyon. >> that's not part of the

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historic district. >> thank you. >> madam clerk. Hello, I'm brigitte murphy.

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I'm a master's student within the university of florida within the urban and regional planning

2298
05:31:04,211 --> 05:31:13,211
department. As also a member of the historic board on the student seat it's really

2299
05:31:17,458 --> 05:31:22,429
disheartening to see this drop for good planning ethics and community protection especially when

2300
05:31:22,429 --> 05:31:27,501
it comes to historic preservation. I don't know if you have ever really visited these

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05:31:27,501 --> 05:31:33,640
type of apartments, especially at night time. They are student housing apartments.

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05:31:33,640 --> 05:31:38,379
it's the same type of rental properties. And I know affordable housing is an issue.

2303
05:31:38,379 --> 05:31:44,518
but still it isn't being pushed for me. It doesn't seem like that's the focal point.

2304
05:31:44,518 --> 05:31:51,425
just developing more units that are going to go to students and I've lived in gainesville for five years,

2305
05:31:51,425 --> 05:31:57,464
which really isn't that long. But even during my short time here I've seen so many

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05:31:57,464 --> 05:32:01,935
of the buildings come into neighborhoods. I live in the community north of campus.

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05:32:01,935 --> 05:32:11,440
I have just -- the identity has completely changed. And now it's beginning east of campus.

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05:32:11,440 --> 05:32:17,351
and we talked about dangerous precedents and things like that. It's true and I know you

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05:32:17,351 --> 05:32:23,290
want development and it's good for the innovation district. At the certain point, the

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05:32:23,290 --> 05:32:28,595
advisory boards do advice. Because they care. They are not elected. But they do care.

2311
05:32:28,595 --> 05:32:33,567
that's why they come out. They why that go and take the time to do these things. Because it's important to

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05:32:33,567 --> 05:32:42,910
their community the ones that they live in. I can't imagine in another five years what it will look

2313
05:32:42,910 --> 05:32:46,413
like. How many more of the building and districts will be here.

2314
05:32:46,413 --> 05:32:50,784
if historic district wasn't protected the way that it is. It's likely it wouldn't be

2315
05:32:50,784 --> 05:32:55,856
there as well. The university heights south is well protected because it has protections.

2316
05:32:55,856 --> 05:33:01,895
because it has the laws that protects it. I fully believe without them a bulldozer would have been

2317
05:33:01,895 --> 05:33:06,767
in the future a long, long time ago. I don't think this should be approved.

2318
05:33:06,767 --> 05:33:13,574
I think there's more compatible housing that can be built. Especially architecturally.

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05:33:13,574 --> 05:33:18,612
it's sad to go with the one-floor brick and then continue up and considering it's 12 stories high and you

2320
05:33:18,612 --> 05:33:26,687
will be faced with a solid silver wall after coming out of canopies and trees to kind of clashes.

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05:33:26,687 --> 05:33:35,870
the mass of the building is ginormous. Across the street you have regular-sized home.

2322
05:33:37,764 --> 05:33:45,939
if you approve it, you should be tough with the conditions of approval. Architecturally you should

2323
05:33:45,939 --> 05:33:50,377
limit height. Don't be desperate spore development, because development will come to

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05:33:50,377 --> 05:33:55,480
gainesville. And I think you should be more prideful and have more faith in your community.

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>> thank you. >> madam clerk. >> our next speaker is jennie tucker followed by

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robert mounds. >> hi. Mr. Mayor and the city commissioners, I'm jenny

2327
05:34:09,463 --> 05:34:14,167
tucker. I'm very nervous. This is my second time in city hall.

2328
05:34:14,167 --> 05:34:21,740
the first time I couldn't find the gate. I'm here. I'm propelled to tell my

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opinion. I'm strongly opposed to this project for three reasons. First, I want to acknowledge

2330
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that the developers do very good job. They have very good sales method to show you selective

2331
05:34:34,454 --> 05:34:40,600
picture of the historically preserved houses in the neighborhood. There are a lot of beautiful

2332
05:34:40,600 --> 05:34:44,431
houses in the neighborhood and the pictures you see are selective. There are a lot more

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05:34:44,431 --> 05:34:54,310
beautiful houses not shown. And also the developers present a force. They ask you between a

2334
05:34:55,609 --> 05:35:01,848
parking lot and 12-story new building. But this is not real choice. The parking lot has been

2335
05:35:01,848 --> 05:35:10,857
there because it has been waiting for a good opportunity to be developed. The default is not remaining

2336
05:35:10,857 --> 05:35:18,498
a parking lot. The alternative could be a four-story beautiful house, beautiful building, also

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05:35:18,498 --> 05:35:24,905
providing housing to the neighborhood. I don't think the developers presented feasible

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05:35:24,905 --> 05:35:33,305
alternatives here to present their project. The second reason they talk about 10% house workforce

2339
05:35:34,414 --> 05:35:42,890
housing. But the reality is that only students -- or mostly students live there.

2340
05:35:42,890 --> 05:35:50,530
the 10% workforce housing given to how be students live there, very few other people would choose to live

2341
05:35:50,530 --> 05:35:57,738
there. We know what students are. They are very active. And sometimes are loud.

2342
05:35:57,738 --> 05:36:07,738
I just want to keep this in perspective. The second reason opposing it; this is a beautiful

2343
05:36:08,315 --> 05:36:12,786
prehistory preservation area. Gainesville known for own speciality and beauty.

2344
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it's not a miami. We don't want gainesville to become miami. Generations of faculty and

2345
05:36:20,961 --> 05:36:29,536
students remember their time they have had at florida. One of the most important schools in the country and

2346
05:36:29,536 --> 05:36:35,942
the best in the state. And they remember the memories that are spent. They didn't want to come

2347
05:36:35,942 --> 05:36:41,748
back to see this brick wall. The third reason I'm against it. It's not fair.

2348
05:36:41,748 --> 05:36:47,888
we have the historical preservation code. And houses in that area have been observing the code

2349
05:36:47,888 --> 05:36:57,888
following the regulation. We have been trying hard to preserve what is there. To have new roofs and now

2350
05:36:58,398 --> 05:37:08,141
you have a 12-story building just half the distance from here to there. That's a new 12-story

2351
05:37:08,141 --> 05:37:14,247
building. >> that's your time. >> thank you so much. >> followed by jason

2352
05:37:14,247 --> 05:37:19,470
sanchez. [inaudible] first, process. Very disappointed with an

2353
05:37:25,459 --> 05:37:35,459
issue of this high public importance that you took a motion and tally-whacked your vote before you heard

2354
05:37:36,870 --> 05:37:42,676
from the public. The meeting included nothing about the plan board. They didn't tell you today

2355
05:37:42,676 --> 05:37:51,218
that the plan board voted this down by 4-2. Some of you know it. The backup didn't include

2356
05:37:51,218 --> 05:37:57,524
citizen comment from the plan board. It didn't include the blistering critique of this.

2357
05:37:57,524 --> 05:38:04,631
another developer. Who owns property across the street. I don't understand that.

2358
05:38:04,631 --> 05:38:10,570
the developer tried to tell you there was three times. No it wasn't. Yes.

2359
05:38:10,570 --> 05:38:20,170
partly but it was 4-2 against it. Dismiss it if you wish. They voted unanimously to

2360
05:38:22,215 --> 05:38:28,522
oppose it. That wasn't in the back up either. Process, my god.

2361
05:38:28,522 --> 05:38:35,629
the real thing boils down to the fact that you know if we were talking about building condominiums here which

2362
05:38:35,629 --> 05:38:45,629
people in their 30s and 40s need which incoming faculty need and by the 2016 u.s. Strategic plan says what is

2363
05:38:45,872 --> 05:38:52,345
needed in order to attract high-quality faculty. It might be a different story in terms of height and

2364
05:38:52,345 --> 05:38:55,248
density. We're not talking about that. We're talking about the

2365
05:38:55,248 --> 05:39:03,480
standard with two additional floors, with 10% workforce housing. Mostly filled with a student

2366
05:39:07,194 --> 05:39:12,632
rental. Would a nurse or young professional couple want to live in that standard?

2367
05:39:12,632 --> 05:39:21,632
is that realistic even at the cut rate? Why aren't developers motivated to build housing

2368
05:39:23,210 --> 05:39:29,416
that people your age actually need and not more student housing. It's greed.

2369
05:39:29,416 --> 05:39:36,656
under the existing zoning there's incentive for affordable housing for workforce housing and they

2370
05:39:36,656 --> 05:39:44,998
could get the two extra floors from six to eight. Why is that not enough? Because of greed.

2371
05:39:44,998 --> 05:39:50,300
going to 12 just to get what you would have gotten if you were building a six-story building.

2372
05:39:50,300 --> 05:39:57,878
you can get eight. There's a reason why stepped down from downtown zoning to the one to two-story

2373
05:39:57,878 --> 05:40:05,180
historic district. It's amazing to me that no one has mentioned that. They've acknowledged that,

2374
05:40:05,180 --> 05:40:12,392
yes, we're marketing it to students by the bedroom just like every other student apartment building.

2375
05:40:12,392 --> 05:40:16,663
are they selling condominiums. Is anyone going to live is there with a family and

2376
05:40:16,663 --> 05:40:21,463
children? >> thank you. >> madam clerk. >> next speaker jason

2377
05:40:21,968 --> 05:40:29,168
sanchez followed by thomas hawkins. >> thomas. I don't think mr. Sanchez is

2378
05:40:31,344 --> 05:40:40,344
here. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. >> that looks good. When it sit up there on the

2379
05:40:51,131 --> 05:40:56,569
plan board. Don't understand why people can't get it straight. I only brought a couple of

2380
05:40:56,569 --> 05:41:01,541
copies. I knew I would have slides up here. I want to thank you

2381
05:41:01,541 --> 05:41:09,249
mr. Mayor. I didn't know before romes meant what it meant to not be home in the evenings.

2382
05:41:09,249 --> 05:41:15,989
thanks for what you have been doing for the last two terms. We in development code have

2383
05:41:15,989 --> 05:41:20,627
this provision. Multifamily development adjacent to the historic district cannot have more

2384
05:41:20,627 --> 05:41:24,798
than 6 dwelling units per building. We been talking about height.

2385
05:41:24,798 --> 05:41:30,103
as though we're just asking for a little bit more. The height is not the limiting factor in this

2386
05:41:30,103 --> 05:41:36,710
area. What guarantees a reasonable transition between the historic district form and

2387
05:41:36,710 --> 05:41:45,251
the form allowed adjacent to the historic district is the transition area with the number of units per building

2388
05:41:45,251 --> 05:41:50,490
is six. I think -- I would go through this quickly. We've seen this historic

2389
05:41:50,490 --> 05:41:55,890
district. Land adjacent. That's your 100 foot buffer looks like.

2390
05:41:58,231 --> 05:42:05,605
see the area shown in blue is the area where development is limited to six units per building.

2391
05:42:05,605 --> 05:42:13,279
the proposal in this comp plan amendment is to allow up to 204 units per building.

2392
05:42:13,279 --> 05:42:17,851
I know the applicant will split that between two structures. The comp plan amendment

2393
05:42:17,851 --> 05:42:24,457
doesn't say how many per structure. But the change is not minor. It's absolutely blowing out

2394
05:42:24,457 --> 05:42:30,764
of the water the standards that everybody else with a similarly situated property has to deal with.

2395
05:42:30,764 --> 05:42:37,964
it's absolutely not a minor adjustment at all. That change is 3,300% increase.

2396
05:42:40,106 --> 05:42:47,147
it's going to be split between two buildings we may look at something like 400% in 2000 and 800%.

2397
05:42:47,147 --> 05:42:51,651
it's still absolutely massive increase. We have a legal term for what's going on here.

2398
05:42:51,651 --> 05:42:58,758
it's spot zoning. When you destroy the zoning scheme that everyone else has to follow to give

2399
05:42:58,758 --> 05:43:03,363
special preference to one property owner. That's spot zoning. It's a quote from the

2400
05:43:03,363 --> 05:43:08,468
florida supreme court. I want to appreciate you commissioner the last time I was here.

2401
05:43:08,468 --> 05:43:14,441
like three years ago you emphasized spot zoning is something we can't do. You're absolutely not

2402
05:43:14,441 --> 05:43:20,580
supposed to. That's what this is. The bottom line is we can do better.

2403
05:43:20,580 --> 05:43:26,786
the previous speaker noted that it's not a trade off between urban development and a parking lot.

2404
05:43:26,786 --> 05:43:31,891
it's not like we have to take this project to get nothing. Lots of development is

2405
05:43:31,891 --> 05:43:40,767
happening in our community consistent with our rules. And that is much better. I would ask you reject the

2406
05:43:40,767 --> 05:43:45,505
proposed comp plan amendment and deny the motion town floor. I think we will see progress

2407
05:43:45,505 --> 05:43:49,776
in the neighborhood that's better. >> thank you so much. >> thank you.

2408
05:43:49,776 --> 05:43:56,376
>> just one more call from michael hill. >> thank you. >> thank you.

2409
05:43:56,516 --> 05:44:06,116
>> also appreciate everyone sharing their thoughts. I will for the sake of my colleagues, share mine.

2410
05:44:06,126 --> 05:44:15,335
I will not -- I will not start with the issue at-large, which is we have a significant lack of housing

2411
05:44:15,335 --> 05:44:24,244
in our community. Specifically significant lack of housing in our urban core leading to escalating

2412
05:44:24,244 --> 05:44:33,844
housing costs, lack of access to mobility, dependency on an automobile for any and all travel.

2413
05:44:34,687 --> 05:44:44,970
and I will get specifically to this particular project. The first reason I support it and you know supported

2414
05:44:44,970 --> 05:44:53,697
the original motion and certainly support the modified motion is that -- I'm sorry, did we

2415
05:44:55,375 --> 05:45:03,283
not get a speaker. >> she's an effected party which is for the quasi additional portion which is

2416
05:45:03,283 --> 05:45:12,859
the next item. >> to be an effected party for quasi-judicial item which is the next item.

2417
05:45:12,859 --> 05:45:21,859
[inaudible] the first reason I support this is because we have heard from our neighbors

2418
05:45:30,430 --> 05:45:36,349
consistently about their concern with displacement and gentrification in some of our historic

2419
05:45:36,349 --> 05:45:44,149
neighborhoods. By building significant amounts of housing on land that does not displace.

2420
05:45:49,362 --> 05:45:56,536
there's no better example of that than a parking lot. With this, you get significant amounts of new

2421
05:45:56,536 --> 05:46:06,536
housing without forcing anybody out. It is in as we saw one of the most walkable, bikable

2422
05:46:08,281 --> 05:46:15,321
and transit oriented neighborhoods in our city. In fact, I think probably the most.

2423
05:46:15,321 --> 05:46:20,793
it -- as you saw it's also compatible with the surrounding development. This type of development

2424
05:46:20,793 --> 05:46:30,793
exists on all sides. And we also saw that most of that development was within the 100-foot buffer.

2425
05:46:32,338 --> 05:46:40,738
and received approval. Those developments have not destroyed the neighborhood. They have added vibrancy.

2426
05:46:42,248 --> 05:46:49,489
they have added the opportunity for people to live, work and play in a compact area.

2427
05:46:49,489 --> 05:46:59,489
I also -- I support that the -- while this would get approved as apud and pd. They are conforming to the

2428
05:46:59,732 --> 05:47:09,732
standard for the zones which adds to the urban form. We have had countless hours of discussions about

2429
05:47:12,945 --> 05:47:20,319
affordable housing. We understand the great cost of affordable housing if done by the city.

2430
05:47:20,319 --> 05:47:28,719
we understand the significant barriers to affordable housing. We need to take advantage of

2431
05:47:31,798 --> 05:47:38,370
every single unit of affordable housing that we can add to our stock that doesn't tap into the city's

2432
05:47:38,370 --> 05:47:46,913
limited resources. And so that is the main reason I support the amended motion is that will include

2433
05:47:46,913 --> 05:47:56,889
7 families that are now able to live near where they work, where their kids go to school, where they shop and

2434
05:47:56,889 --> 05:48:05,889
where they can access amenities. I cannot -- I cannot allow anybody to minimize the

2435
05:48:10,670 --> 05:48:20,670
impact that, that has on those families that will take advantage of that. This project is not in a

2436
05:48:24,317 --> 05:48:33,917
historic district. It is not. Other projects are in the buffer the same as this and,

2437
05:48:34,427 --> 05:48:40,900
again, have not somehow ruined the neighborhood. In fact you heard many people today speak about how

2438
05:48:40,900 --> 05:48:45,838
much pride they have in their neighborhood. To think somehow this project would tip the

2439
05:48:45,838 --> 05:48:51,911
neighborhood, it will got. I think the economic data that was shown is significant.

2440
05:48:51,911 --> 05:49:00,386
I also just want to point out that we need much more of this type of dense development to address our

2441
05:49:00,386 --> 05:49:05,291
challenges with climate change. I hope that all of you have been able -- if you haven't

2442
05:49:05,291 --> 05:49:11,164
read the full report at least the executive summary of the cool climate project done by the university of

2443
05:49:11,164 --> 05:49:20,164
california berkeley. They conducted an extensive study of over 700 cities globally and looked at what

2444
05:49:20,206 --> 05:49:26,445
the largest impact local government and local communities can have on climate change.

2445
05:49:26,445 --> 05:49:36,222
by far the largest impact is greater urban density. It's not close to the next biggest impact.

2446
05:49:36,222 --> 05:49:46,222
we also know through and, again, I will reference a study that the university of ucla put out which was

2447
05:49:46,399 --> 05:49:55,999
really several different peer reviewed study on market housing cost and all new market rate housing

2448
05:49:57,410 --> 05:50:03,410
lowers upward pressure on rents. Whether dedicated affordable or not.

2449
05:50:08,955 --> 05:50:15,728
we have to stop finding ways to reduce housing in our community. We can go over a long list

2450
05:50:15,728 --> 05:50:20,333
of housing projects that have come before this commission, or the commission across the

2451
05:50:20,333 --> 05:50:26,939
street. And we have found ways to deny it. And that has further and

2452
05:50:26,939 --> 05:50:34,413
further and further exacerbated our affordable housing crisis. This is a good project.

2453
05:50:34,413 --> 05:50:44,413
you might not like how it looks. It might you know, I do appreciate the comment that

2454
05:50:44,891 --> 05:50:53,332
I heard from one of our neighbors that don't we want to keep gainesville, gainesville?

2455
05:50:53,332 --> 05:51:01,774
look, I grew up here. I was raised here. I was -- I went westwood and the university of florida.

2456
05:51:01,774 --> 05:51:09,574
I flung burgers for ten years before I become a teacher. Gainesville changes.

2457
05:51:09,849 --> 05:51:17,557
that's what I low about it. It's a dynamic city and it grows and evolves. There's no more appropriate

2458
05:51:17,557 --> 05:51:24,330
place to have high density urban development than between the university of florida and our downtown.

2459
05:51:24,330 --> 05:51:31,337
if we want to take the pressures off of our more traditional neighborhoods, the way the do that is offer

2460
05:51:31,337 --> 05:51:38,611
this high-density housing that I guarantee you the day they open their doors will be 100% occupied.

2461
05:51:38,611 --> 05:51:46,118
guaranteed. They will be preleased and on moving day every one of those including the

2462
05:51:46,118 --> 05:51:51,123
affordable units will be occupied. That is a clear market signal that the demand for

2463
05:51:51,123 --> 05:51:58,931
our housing is so much higher than our supply is able to offer, and so if you are interested in preserving

2464
05:51:58,931 --> 05:52:06,720
more traditional neighborhoods this is absolutely something I encourage you to support.

2465
05:52:06,720 --> 05:52:15,815
I know this is hard. Change is uncomfortable. It always has been. But there are far too many

2466
05:52:15,815 --> 05:52:25,815
benefits and advantages to this proposal than there are and I meant there always are trade offs that will cause

2467
05:52:28,628 --> 05:52:37,628
uncomfort or change. But not nearly enough for me to consider denial of this petition.

2468
05:52:39,372 --> 05:52:49,372
I will support the motion on the floor, which is for the modified with the smaller lower heights smaller

2469
05:52:52,918 --> 05:53:01,761
building and the larger main building. And with that, we will go back for another round of

2470
05:53:01,761 --> 05:53:10,903
commission comment and then we will move to a vote. Commissioner saco. >> thank you to everyone who

2471
05:53:10,903 --> 05:53:16,108
has commented. I have two points generally. I don't know which one to go first.

2472
05:53:16,108 --> 05:53:24,717
let's go with this one. All this housing is going to be luxury housing. Because of where we are, not

2473
05:53:24,717 --> 05:53:30,823
just in gainesville or the u.s., all housing is a luxury right now. And people don't have the

2474
05:53:30,823 --> 05:53:37,196
luxury of saying, well I want to live in this type of housing. You need shelter.

2475
05:53:37,196 --> 05:53:42,340
your kids need a place to sleep. Something is better than nothing.

2476
05:53:42,340 --> 05:53:48,607
and I guarantee you that people who are on the gainesville housing authority wait list, those

2477
05:53:48,607 --> 05:53:56,407
are hundreds of families will be incredibly grateful for this. As commissioner hayes-santos

2478
05:53:57,383 --> 05:54:03,456
said earlier. It's something we can keep in perpetuity by law without a penny coming from the

2479
05:54:03,456 --> 05:54:11,856
city. And to subsidize those units -- 27 units twelve months, at about let's say

2480
05:54:11,964 --> 05:54:21,964
$850 for 20 years. That's millions of dollars. That we don't have to pay and we help at-risk families

2481
05:54:23,576 --> 05:54:31,376
have shelter. And it's in shelter by the looking of it near amenities.

2482
05:54:31,450 --> 05:54:38,591
I hate that it's come to this point. But all housing is now a luxury.

2483
05:54:38,591 --> 05:54:45,664
and to the other point I don't like generalities. I don't like speaking in generalities.

2484
05:54:45,664 --> 05:54:51,570
not everybody wants a single family home. Not everybody wants an apartment.

2485
05:54:51,570 --> 05:54:57,743
I think some of the best times of my life living in the rental where the landlord took care of

2486
05:54:57,743 --> 05:55:02,648
everything and I didn't lift a finger. That was awesome. When I was in family I

2487
05:55:02,648 --> 05:55:04,817
wanted to different situation. People want different things.

2488
05:55:04,817 --> 05:55:11,230
some people live in a house in gainesville. Some live apartment. Some in a condo by the

2489
05:55:11,230 --> 05:55:16,423
beach. People do different things. People want different things.

2490
05:55:19,431 --> 05:55:25,671
and to that end, people are very different. Every individual person is different.

2491
05:55:25,671 --> 05:55:35,114
I say it every time. It happens in this chamber. Students are not criminals. I was a student at the

2492
05:55:35,114 --> 05:55:39,518
university of florida. I didn't get arrested. It wasn't selling drugs out of my condo.

2493
05:55:39,518 --> 05:55:46,358
I was not blasting music. I was not doing any of the things that every student -- the students that

2494
05:55:46,358 --> 05:55:52,698
did show up -- unfortunately you were told you are all criminals that you are disruptive and will make

2495
05:55:52,698 --> 05:55:56,302
noise and no one wants to be near you. That's not fair. You're not.

2496
05:55:56,302 --> 05:56:05,644
you all seem very nice well spoken human beings. If we come into this room two miles from the

2497
05:56:05,644 --> 05:56:12,618
university, please, please refrain from saying that students are a problem. Students contribute millions

2498
05:56:12,618 --> 05:56:16,956
to our economy. Will the apartment have students? Yes.

2499
05:56:16,956 --> 05:56:21,600
>> will it have families. >> yeah. Will some of the students be grad students who have

2500
05:56:21,600 --> 05:56:27,600
families. People can be two things. >> yeah. Housing the housing.

2501
05:56:27,366 --> 05:56:36,410
people who live in house ring people. Thank you, my -- mr. Mayor. >> up next commissioner

2502
05:56:36,410 --> 05:56:41,280
ward. >> thank you mr. Mayor. >> many, many thoughts here. For me and obviously from

2503
05:56:41,280 --> 05:56:51,280
everybody else. One of the things we haven't talked about that, that weighs on my mind is that

2504
05:56:52,157 --> 05:57:00,599
zoning map on my computer while the presentations were going on. Literally across the street

2505
05:57:00,599 --> 05:57:09,599
as the applicant pointed out is 12 to 14 stories. All downtown. Some of that is actually

2506
05:57:13,312 --> 05:57:23,255
already been raised and then they gave up on the project. Not to take the building down to build 12 to 14

2507
05:57:23,255 --> 05:57:26,158
stories. I know this is property that's available. I get it.

2508
05:57:26,158 --> 05:57:34,667
it's available because it's a weird lot. What we're trying to do -- what the applicant is

2509
05:57:34,667 --> 05:57:39,138
trying to do. It's not a judgment. It's a reality. You try to make the most you

2510
05:57:39,138 --> 05:57:48,647
can out of an opportunity on a really weird lot. The reason it's a weird lot is because this body some

2511
05:57:48,647 --> 05:57:57,647
years ago literally cut corners to create the most -- largest possible historic district even

2512
05:58:00,426 --> 05:58:08,267
though it really didn't fit. They had done what made sense looking at that map and cut the historic

2513
05:58:08,267 --> 05:58:16,175
district off at 2nd avenue, where it made sense, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.

2514
05:58:16,175 --> 05:58:21,800
but they did. They cut corners there to try to get a little bit more and created a problem for

2515
05:58:21,800 --> 05:58:31,800
folks down the road. The parking lot is going to be built on. It sounds like we're going

2516
05:58:31,590 --> 05:58:41,590
to get 12 stories tonight. I'm not voting for that. But we've got to stop and, again, this is not a

2517
05:58:41,600 --> 05:58:47,339
judgment against the applicant. But just because a salesman gives us a story does not

2518
05:58:47,339 --> 05:58:55,739
mean that, that's the only story. The market has limitations. And it's absolutely true

2519
05:58:59,918 --> 05:59:08,930
that supply and demand is a real thing. I don't want to get into the supply of housing.

2520
05:59:08,930 --> 05:59:17,236
but there's the opportunity to build 12 or 14 stories on many blocks heading east from this very property.

2521
05:59:17,236 --> 05:59:27,236
this very property is by our own rules available for a mix of four-stories, and eight stories.

2522
05:59:28,747 --> 05:59:36,522
that's fairly dense. It's not as dense as what the applicant asking for. It's okay to ask for it.

2523
05:59:36,522 --> 05:59:43,762
we don't always have to say yes when someone asks us to bend the rules. It's not bending the rules.

2524
05:59:43,762 --> 05:59:49,134
we built the back door into the process. Because times it's necessary.

2525
05:59:49,134 --> 05:59:59,134
it's not always necessary. We are essentially ignoring with the of our own maps to make this happen.

2526
06:00:05,184 --> 06:00:12,570
when there are not necessarily available to this developer right now today, but when there are

2527
06:00:12,570 --> 06:00:22,570
available many, many blocks of 12 to 14 stories to be built on by our own rules. I don't think that it is our

2528
06:00:25,304 --> 06:00:35,304
job to guarantee profit. And I think in other circumstances you would all agree with me on that.

2529
06:00:37,115 --> 06:00:46,391
I'm a little bit frustrated in our willingness -- a lot frustrating in our willingness ignore the rules

2530
06:00:46,391 --> 06:00:52,391
that we put in place. Thank you. >>mayor: commissioner duncan-walker

2531
06:00:54,990 --> 06:01:01,773
>> thank you mr. Mayor. I will try to be brief. I don't want to ignore our rules.

2532
06:01:01,773 --> 06:01:08,460
I don't want to ignore the plan board. I don't want to ignore the historic preservation board.

2533
06:01:08,460 --> 06:01:14,520
I don't want to ignore existing community that we seem to always allow to slide down to the bottom of

2534
06:01:14,520 --> 06:01:24,520
the list whenever anything like this comes up. There are countless people who are in need of

2535
06:01:25,697 --> 06:01:32,204
affordable housing. I will tell you that I can appreciate what seems to now be becoming a trend of

2536
06:01:32,204 --> 06:01:38,343
including workforce for affordable housing in new developments, you've heard us say countless time.

2537
06:01:38,343 --> 06:01:44,816
we wish its more. It's not enough. And that's the truth. But this is what you are

2538
06:01:44,816 --> 06:01:48,353
bringing to the table. That's fine. Because it's your project. You get to bring what you

2539
06:01:48,353 --> 06:01:56,461
want. And we all get to support what we want. I won't be able to support

2540
06:01:56,461 --> 06:02:06,461
this. I want to take just a moment to say to my colleagues and thank you, commissioner

2541
06:02:11,476 --> 06:02:16,682
hayes-santos for noting my comments at the county. It's truly what I believe. In the spirit of the

2542
06:02:16,682 --> 06:02:26,682
innovation that we all cheer on and want to see, to me a couple of things. First, the inclusion of even

2543
06:02:33,398 --> 06:02:39,471
more affordable workforce housing in projects coming up. We will not do that.

2544
06:02:39,471 --> 06:02:44,876
to my colleagues and I will say and this is unrelated to this. What would really be

2545
06:02:44,876 --> 06:02:52,317
innovative if we actually got behind the county and supported the letter that they just wrote regarding

2546
06:02:52,317 --> 06:02:58,900
the affordable housing developer and relocating that. That could come right down

2547
06:02:58,900 --> 06:03:05,230
to the urban core on a city-owned property. Has nothing to do with this. Possibly a future

2548
06:03:05,230 --> 06:03:11,970
conversation. But if we're going to talk about affordable housing, to me that's the affordable

2549
06:03:11,970 --> 06:03:17,776
housing conversation. I appreciate it being included. Please don't get my wrong.

2550
06:03:17,776 --> 06:03:27,776
but when I think about it. That's how I think about it. It's more than 10%. Thank you all for bringing

2551
06:03:29,321 --> 06:03:36,521
it forward. I won't be able to support this tonight. Thank you.

2552
06:03:37,429 --> 06:03:44,503
>> thank you mr. Mayor. >> I think two things. I think we're kidding ourselves if you think that

2553
06:03:44,503 --> 06:03:51,810
a family of four is going to move into a project with -- that is student housing.

2554
06:03:51,810 --> 06:03:57,883
it's not going to happen. You're not achieving what you think you are. That's one.

2555
06:03:57,883 --> 06:04:06,558
two, I think going forward and I would like this going forward to staff, when people come in with the pud,

2556
06:04:06,558 --> 06:04:13,298
it's not 10% housing. If they want to develop here in gainesville, let's go to 20%.

2557
06:04:13,298 --> 06:04:19,171
let's go to 25%. Let's make it really, really matter. Because 10% does not.

2558
06:04:19,171 --> 06:04:23,371
thank you. >> commissioner hayes-santos. >> thank you, mayor.

2559
06:04:24,476 --> 06:04:29,648
>> we are following the rules and the process and our comp plan which prioritizes affordable

2560
06:04:29,648 --> 06:04:34,386
housing and protecting the environment and moving forward projects that reduce urban sprawl.

2561
06:04:34,386 --> 06:04:39,191
thank you, mayor. >> thank you. >> really do appreciate all of the conversation.

2562
06:04:39,191 --> 06:04:47,699
it's you know these are not simple issues. You know if they were, then they would sail through

2563
06:04:47,699 --> 06:04:54,773
without a lot of comment. I do appreciate folks taking time to share their thoughts and a lot of work has gone

2564
06:04:54,773 --> 06:05:01,513
into this. And you know, sincere and thoughtful comments from all my colleagues.

2565
06:05:01,513 --> 06:05:10,455
with that madam clerk, I will move to roll call vote in the motion is essentially for the middle what we see

2566
06:05:10,455 --> 06:05:19,264
up here the middle proposal but with the reduced height on the smaller building that we see on the right with the

2567
06:05:19,264 --> 06:05:25,864
other conditions attached. Madam clerk. [roll call] >> that motions passes 4-3

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06:05:37,416 --> 06:05:44,616
with duncan-walker and chestnut in die scent. >> the next item quasi-judicial-rezoning from

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06:06:06,411 --> 06:06:12,411
urban transsecond. >> we will be in recess until 8:30. >> welcome back.

2570
06:18:08,132 --> 06:18:14,672
we're call this meeting back to order. The item has been read into the record.

2571
06:18:14,672 --> 06:18:24,272
v-2 on rezoning of the urban transect zone to planned development. This is the companion zoning

2572
06:18:27,385 --> 06:18:35,793
for the land use we just heard for any of you following along at home. >> thank you mr. Mayor.

2573
06:18:35,793 --> 06:18:41,299
I don't have a separate presentation or a substantively different presentation for the zoning

2574
06:18:41,299 --> 06:18:50,341
portion of this. But, again, I'm happy to answer questions on it or go through any of these details

2575
06:18:50,341 --> 06:18:56,480
as needed. >> okay. We'll just ask you to be on standby in case there's

2576
06:18:56,480 --> 06:19:02,553
follow up questions. But we appreciate that. That's pretty much standard procedure when we have

2577
06:19:02,553 --> 06:19:07,224
companion. We don't do two different presentations. The applicant, would you

2578
06:19:07,224 --> 06:19:13,824
like to give a presentation? >> yes. >> thank you. Come on up.

2579
06:19:18,469 --> 06:19:24,469
>> I'm aicp certified planner. I've been a planner for 32 years.

2580
06:19:25,676 --> 06:19:29,714
we appreciate your support during the land use. I will go through the zoning.

2581
06:19:29,714 --> 06:19:36,200
I may go rapidly. Because this a quasi-judicial proceeding. I want the facts in the

2582
06:19:36,200 --> 06:19:41,559
record. And hook everything that we said from the application, the future land use

2583
06:19:41,559 --> 06:19:47,231
application as well as our presentation staff's presentation all combined into this quasi-judicial

2584
06:19:47,231 --> 06:19:51,535
proceeding. Quickly, this did go through the public notification process and the neighborhood

2585
06:19:51,535 --> 06:19:55,439
workshop was held. We had two representative from the university of florida and one business

2586
06:19:55,439 --> 06:20:02,279
owner attended. It's process began in october of 2021 and we're here september 15th, 2022

2587
06:20:02,279 --> 06:20:08,190
for first reading in front of the commission. The request that was before you a moment ago was a small

2588
06:20:08,190 --> 06:20:14,225
kale comprehensive plan amendment on 1.2 acres. And now you are hearing the rezoning application which

2589
06:20:14,225 --> 06:20:22,700
would be a dt. The only that will implement pud planned use district land use zone and we're

2590
06:20:22,700 --> 06:20:27,471
requesting the planned developing classification. We believe this is important project because it has a key

2591
06:20:27,471 --> 06:20:34,671
innovation district adjacent to it and with two multistory building containing exemplary

2592
06:20:40,384 --> 06:20:46,190
residential. Added urban housing supply and diversity. As well as market rate 10%

2593
06:20:46,190 --> 06:20:52,196
of the unit are workforce housing. We can't go higher because financial underwriters won't

2594
06:20:52,196 --> 06:21:01,380
will let us go there. We are in fact limited to 10% for our banking industry in the opportunities that we

2595
06:21:01,380 --> 06:21:07,712
feel are viable here this helps achieve the highest best use of innovative urban location which is currently

2596
06:21:07,712 --> 06:21:13,684
a parking lot. We seek to improve the form safety and the pedestrian realm of the corridor along

2597
06:21:13,684 --> 06:21:20,458
2nd avenue and 10th street and the alley way that is between the two structures that will increase the

2598
06:21:20,458 --> 06:21:27,580
diversity in gainesville urban core and workforce housing which transit friendly.

2599
06:21:28,265 --> 06:21:32,636
it's located approximately 2 blocks from the university of florida. One block to the northwest

2600
06:21:32,636 --> 06:21:40,100
of innovation district. And about three blocks from santa fe college downtown center.

2601
06:21:40,100 --> 06:21:45,449
this is in an area tremendously redeveloping over the last several years. And, in fact, this project

2602
06:21:45,449 --> 06:21:50,988
sits in between several other projects of similar size, scale and mass and number of stories.

2603
06:21:50,988 --> 06:21:58,362
this area of town is a very highly mobile area meaning that it supported walkability on said walks.

2604
06:21:58,362 --> 06:22:05,736
bicycle lanes, transit. It has the ability to not be dependent on single occupant automobiles.

2605
06:22:05,736 --> 06:22:11,542
in this building we will be putting several multi-modal strategies related to this. Scores a 93 on the

2606
06:22:11,542 --> 06:22:15,913
walkability of the walk score looking at city's all over the united states of america.

2607
06:22:15,913 --> 06:22:21,719
there will be a shared residential vehicle program. Which will be partnering with zip car, car to go and

2608
06:22:21,719 --> 06:22:26,457
other similar services here. And there will be preferred parking for green vehicles. The structure will

2609
06:22:26,457 --> 06:22:32,290
incorporate structured mechanical parking lifts in there to get vehicles into the building.

2610
06:22:32,290 --> 06:22:37,234
and electrical vehicle charging station. There's a scooter sharing and charging program

2611
06:22:37,234 --> 06:22:43,707
associated with this and generous bicycle amenities including shared and maintenance facilities for

2612
06:22:43,707 --> 06:22:50,648
the resident. This adjacent to transit routes in the urban core of gainesville.

2613
06:22:50,648 --> 06:22:56,654
we're looking at second avenue. We are trying in our design to preserve many of the

2614
06:22:56,654 --> 06:23:03,227
trees that are out there that exist in, in between the actual backup curb and the property line.

2615
06:23:03,227 --> 06:23:07,198
I know there was a comment during the land use phase of that. We're working to try to

2616
06:23:07,198 --> 06:23:12,369
preserve those because they are out further. And we also want to be cognizant of the gainesville

2617
06:23:12,369 --> 06:23:19,243
regional utilities system that's in there and cause the least amount of disruption stormwater and so

2618
06:23:19,243 --> 06:23:23,747
forth along those areas. This is looking down the alleyway which will be reconstructed.

2619
06:23:23,747 --> 06:23:31,547
the utilities will go underground here. That increase dramatically. The existing parking land

2620
06:23:35,926 --> 06:23:41,899
and medical building will be replaced by multistory structure. And this will effectively

2621
06:23:41,899 --> 06:23:48,873
take land that is urban, mixed out high intensity that's adjacent to turban core land use across the

2622
06:23:48,873 --> 06:23:55,913
street and change this to planned use district. Request then is to place the only zoning that is come

2623
06:23:55,913 --> 06:24:03,554
patable with the planned use district bying the planned develop over the top of u-9 underlying zoning.

2624
06:24:03,554 --> 06:24:11,610
the reason we request unique features about this. There's 100-foot buffer that intersects other buildings

2625
06:24:11,610 --> 06:24:18,680
and causes the form of the building to be as depicted in the slides previously. This will take the building

2626
06:24:18,680 --> 06:24:27,680
height up to approximately 126 feet, 1 inch which is slightly taller than what's allowed in u-9.

2627
06:24:28,679 --> 06:24:36,587
this increases the density from 125 units to 204. And at this point in the presentation I would like to

2628
06:24:36,587 --> 06:24:43,627
make a comment about some paper slides that were placed on here that says this is 3,000% increase.

2629
06:24:43,627 --> 06:24:50,868
that's improper allocation and improper application of the actual city of gainesville code.

2630
06:24:50,868 --> 06:24:57,107
that same language and that same discussion was proffered at the plan board and the planned board your

2631
06:24:57,107 --> 06:25:05,983
plan board attorney mr. Shaun mcdermott stated that not the way the land development code is applied.

2632
06:25:05,983 --> 06:25:13,924
if you are in the zone one touch of that zone causes only six dwelling units to to applicable across the

2633
06:25:13,924 --> 06:25:20,970
entirety of the property. He opined the city has twice prevailed in challenges with the department of

2634
06:25:20,970 --> 06:25:26,403
administrative hearing in tallahassee and in twice now has been ratified and the fact that the stepdown only

2635
06:25:26,403 --> 06:25:35,613
applies to the area that is within the buffer. That being said, we are seeking to effectively have

2636
06:25:35,613 --> 06:25:44,989
dt type land use parking adjacent to infinity hall. As you can see behind other buildings on first avenue,

2637
06:25:44,989 --> 06:25:50,861
one block to the north side of this their exist building that are already penetrating into the buffer and four

2638
06:25:50,861 --> 06:25:56,266
stories and eight stories along university avenue and not appearing. We're seeking specifically

2639
06:25:56,266 --> 06:26:02,866
from land development section. The proposed pd development standards are largely

2640
06:26:07,778 --> 06:26:16,778
consistent in terms of storefront, street treatment, set backs, a minimum set backs along here

2641
06:26:16,820 --> 06:26:23,861
as well as compensating for the fact there's an existing roundabout at 2nd and 12th that we have to work around.

2642
06:26:23,861 --> 06:26:30,467
the requirements aren unchanged so the code is implemented through this process.

2643
06:26:30,467 --> 06:26:39,467
this action will in perpetuity place workforce housing at 50% of the area -- adjusted median

2644
06:26:41,445 --> 06:26:49,620
income for the gainesville area in that building and one bedroom will be 686 and two bedroom will be 823.

2645
06:26:49,620 --> 06:26:58,200
about 1,000 less than current market cost. The workforce housing is needed in the community.

2646
06:26:59,997 --> 06:27:05,302
we incorporated that into this. We feel this is questioning to bolster the long-term

2647
06:27:05,302 --> 06:27:13,944
viable of the urban core. We do have an existing memorandum of understanding that has been adopted by the

2648
06:27:13,944 --> 06:27:20,317
gainesville housing authority. You can see pam davis' signature on here prior to

2649
06:27:20,317 --> 06:27:25,622
the public hearing earlier this spring. This property is consistent with the land development

2650
06:27:25,622 --> 06:27:33,130
code 30-3.14. That's why it heard before you in the public hearing. That's why heard at the

2651
06:27:33,130 --> 06:27:40,270
planning board. Because it's consistent with criteria of 30-3.14. Meets all the criteria and

2652
06:27:40,270 --> 06:27:45,242
twice now your staff both at the planning board, staff report and the city commission staff report have

2653
06:27:45,242 --> 06:27:50,280
told you that their recommendation and professional guidance is to adopt the rezoning

2654
06:27:50,280 --> 06:27:57,187
amendment. Therefore, under article 3 of planned development this property and this request

2655
06:27:57,187 --> 06:28:06,787
before you meets all the criteria of the land development code and also in section 30-3.15.81.

2656
06:28:07,264 --> 06:28:12,664
flexibility sustainability using land and infrastructure. Reduces transportation needs

2657
06:28:12,970 --> 06:28:18,410
conserves energy and maximizing preservation of natural resources because wear not working in a

2658
06:28:18,410 --> 06:28:24,641
greenfield. Land development code 30-3.15.8.2 allows for integration that would not

2659
06:28:28,719 --> 06:28:33,230
be provided for in other districts. The pd allowing us to do that across here because we

2660
06:28:33,230 --> 06:28:39,129
have different sized buildings as we also have different density being considered here.

2661
06:28:39,129 --> 06:28:45,729
land development code 30-3.15.8.3 will allow outstaying and inknow surveytive nonresidential

2662
06:28:47,304 --> 06:28:54,244
development that integrate housing type. We have workforce housing and internal and external

2663
06:28:54,244 --> 06:28:59,783
comfortable travel as we talked about here. We will be able to have people walk, bicycle,

2664
06:28:59,783 --> 06:29:06,824
schooler, take transit and other means to get to myriad of locations in and around the urban area.

2665
06:29:06,824 --> 06:29:15,632
30-3.15a4 allows flexibility to be changing needs in our society changing technologies and economics.

2666
06:29:15,632 --> 06:29:21,972
and consumer preference and allows forking newity and imagination in the planning and development of large

2667
06:29:21,972 --> 06:29:28,312
tracks. This relatively small track. These things still apply. Urban lifestyle and for

2668
06:29:28,312 --> 06:29:35,512
housing. The pd introduces new housing to gainesville. It's residents and enhances

2669
06:29:35,786 --> 06:29:41,186
access an opportunity for all. 33.15.a.5. Coordinated building in

2670
06:29:45,996 --> 06:29:51,235
relationship with in-fill development. Allows coordinated develop of two building on small

2671
06:29:51,235 --> 06:29:55,906
in-fill site. Eliminates the lack of planning or piecemeal development.

2672
06:29:55,906 --> 06:30:02,179
it's pedestrian scale and the major folkous of the redevelopment that follow rezoning along there and has

2673
06:30:02,179 --> 06:30:07,818
residential units that will open to the street front and sidewalk area. Pedestrian realm enhancement

2674
06:30:07,818 --> 06:30:15,180
include widened sidewalk and streetscaping. Removes redundant driveway cuts and pedestrian driveway

2675
06:30:16,660 --> 06:30:23,860
sidewalk conflicts around the entirety of the perimeter. Section review criteria hat

2676
06:30:24,368 --> 06:30:31,875
been met. City staff testified twice. This conforms with consistency with the plan

2677
06:30:31,875 --> 06:30:36,546
external compatibility has been demonstrated as well as the intensity of the develop.

2678
06:30:36,546 --> 06:30:43,530
plaza and recreational areas will be included throughout the building plan and some places on the roof.

2679
06:30:43,530 --> 06:30:48,158
environmental constraints there are none on the site. There's no floodplains no other environmental concerns

2680
06:30:48,158 --> 06:30:55,465
and external transportation access and internal will occur from the core of the site from the alley for

2681
06:30:55,465 --> 06:31:01,405
vehicles and then all other units and amenity will have access to public street the parking structure on the

2682
06:31:01,405 --> 06:31:06,109
north side. Lastly it provides for range of transportation choices because resident can use

2683
06:31:06,109 --> 06:31:11,715
cars, bicycles and other vehicles as well as transit lines. The reason we request this

2684
06:31:11,715 --> 06:31:17,487
because the historic district creates a unique little pocket and thereby places a buffer around

2685
06:31:17,487 --> 06:31:26,396
portions of this property and so only certain areas can be developed to the actual massing of what the

2686
06:31:26,396 --> 06:31:30,701
requested. We conducted research and the property value analysis of all surrounding

2687
06:31:30,701 --> 06:31:40,301
properties and looked at the year 2016, 27, 28, under no scenarios into any other real estate value depreciate

2688
06:31:44,181 --> 06:31:52,756
when larger building were built in the district. We looked cascades and also the hub to the north.

2689
06:31:52,756 --> 06:31:58,161
there's no evidence at all this will hurt or injure the property values of the surrounding properties.

2690
06:31:58,161 --> 06:32:03,667
moreover there's not any properties that surround the property that are homestead. Every single property around

2691
06:32:03,667 --> 06:32:10,240
there is a commercial rental property. And as stated we are be removing driveway connection

2692
06:32:10,240 --> 06:32:17,147
points and session point with sidewalk and only access from the alleyway internal to the actual

2693
06:32:17,147 --> 06:32:22,786
block. I'm showing the elevation. But now showing the street view.

2694
06:32:22,786 --> 06:32:32,786
parking lot will be replaced by building that has large glass front facade. It will make the second

2695
06:32:33,196 --> 06:32:39,703
avenue safer for pedestrians as well as having many pedestrian doors and actual residential unit that will

2696
06:32:39,703 --> 06:32:47,244
open on to the street. And this view shows on 12th street north of the roundabout shows how the

2697
06:32:47,244 --> 06:32:53,450
building designed to compliment the infinity hall across the street with railing to prevent this to

2698
06:32:53,450 --> 06:33:01,258
become ad hoc skateboard park. This area is looking at directly north from second

2699
06:33:01,258 --> 06:33:07,597
avenue from the roundabout showing there's a large gathering area at the entrance to the building

2700
06:33:07,597 --> 06:33:16,773
without door social places. Part of the actual pd. Then down second avenue you see there's not only doors

2701
06:33:16,773 --> 06:33:22,780
going into residential unit but alcoves within the building that allow additional social

2702
06:33:22,780 --> 06:33:29,486
interaction and people to study or invite friends over and have like a live, play, study environment right here

2703
06:33:29,486 --> 06:33:36,260
along second avenue here. Over the course of the project we looked at several designs.

2704
06:33:36,260 --> 06:33:40,960
during the course of the project we had memorandum of understanding executed with the housing authority and

2705
06:33:40,960 --> 06:33:47,437
the last design that was brought forward single blade along second in which we changed about 15 minutes

2706
06:33:47,437 --> 06:33:54,111
ago. And you are looking at hybrid alternative of this building here with the rear

2707
06:33:54,111 --> 06:34:01,911
building dropped down within the historic district to represent 271 units with 698 to 700 beds.

2708
06:34:03,190 --> 06:34:09,259
we'll have to get the math exact. This will deliver 27 workforce housing units into

2709
06:34:09,259 --> 06:34:17,133
the community. There was resolution adopted that brought out some language about this would

2710
06:34:17,133 --> 06:34:21,571
set precedent. Based on research following the planning board we looked at the actual historic

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06:34:21,571 --> 06:34:27,177
district covering this portion of the city, and noted that immediately across the street infinity

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06:34:27,177 --> 06:34:34,851
hall has five storyings within the 100-toot buffer. To north the hub on university has four story

2713
06:34:34,851 --> 06:34:40,230
and 8 stories within the buffer. To the west collar manor five story building within

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06:34:40,230 --> 06:34:46,696
the buffer. Further to the south, is lynn court which is five stories within the buffer.

2715
06:34:46,696 --> 06:34:55,380
on the outside of invocation cascades five story building within the 100-foot of buffer.

2716
06:34:55,380 --> 06:35:02,579
all different direction north, east, west and south that buffer has allowed five story buildings.

2717
06:35:02,579 --> 06:35:10,200
there's no precedent staff. City staff recommended in the planning board report they approve the project.

2718
06:35:10,200 --> 06:35:16,860
they had 3-3 vote. They asked for one more vote to come to the commission. And then the planning board

2719
06:35:16,860 --> 06:35:21,765
gave us 4-2 to come forward to you. City staff reviewed their professional staff report

2720
06:35:21,765 --> 06:35:27,470
and have concluded again this should be approved with conditions as you did in your last, you will support

2721
06:35:27,470 --> 06:35:34,411
this and I'm sorry I had to read that fast. Now I know how you feel when you ask me to read

2722
06:35:34,411 --> 06:35:41,110
something. >> did you want to add something? >> mr. Mayor, attorney for

2723
06:35:42,319 --> 06:35:49,225
the applicant, very briefly. Because this quasi-judicial hearing. I want to be clear that we

2724
06:35:49,225 --> 06:35:56,633
are moving and offering the chw presentation from the land use hearing this evening as well as the

2725
06:35:56,633 --> 06:36:01,137
zoning hearing we are in now. The staff reports for both land-use and zoning.

2726
06:36:01,137 --> 06:36:08,445
the land use and zoning applications submitted by chw and the record of the plan board proceeding and

2727
06:36:08,445 --> 06:36:14,117
the entire record of the land-use proceedings that you heard this evening. Thank you very much.

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06:36:14,117 --> 06:36:19,656
>> thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you. Turn back to commission.

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06:36:19,656 --> 06:36:28,560
commissioner hayes-santos. >> I move petition pb-21-0020 with conditions and modified as necessary to

2730
06:36:29,599 --> 06:36:36,799
meet the direction given. >> second. >> madam clerk, do you clear the motion?

2731
06:36:40,100 --> 06:36:46,100
[inaudible] consistent with approval from the land use item. Second.

2732
06:36:50,220 --> 06:36:59,220
commissioner arreola, madam clerk anyone signed up to speak for this item? >> vihsne, taylor simmons.

2733
06:37:08,400 --> 06:37:14,400
melanie barr, brigitte murphy. Jenny tucker. Robert max, jason sanchez.

2734
06:37:15,211 --> 06:37:25,211
>> thank you then we'll turn back to the commission and they will call a vote. [roll call]

2735
06:37:31,127 --> 06:37:38,927
>> motion passes 4-3 with duncan-walker and chestnut in dissent. Land use change 1.63 acres

2736
06:37:42,505 --> 06:37:50,800
of property located at 1905 south main street. An ordinance of the city of gaines, florida amending the

2737
06:37:50,800 --> 06:37:56,252
future land use map of the comprehensive plan by changing the land use category of approximately

2738
06:37:56,252 --> 06:38:03,259
1.63 acres of property generally located at 1905 south main street. As more specifically

2739
06:38:03,259 --> 06:38:09,632
described in this ordinance. Providing a repealing clause and providing an effective date.

2740
06:38:09,632 --> 06:38:15,972
>> we won't go through that yet. This is legislative matter for the land use change.

2741
06:38:15,972 --> 06:38:25,972
I will go right to you. >> I will be presenting ld-2200005 the land use change and then the

2742
06:38:33,690 --> 06:38:43,333
associated zoning that goes along with it which ends in a four there. I will be going through a

2743
06:38:43,333 --> 06:38:51,107
couple of slides here. But fortunately, I feel like a fair amount of my work has been done since a lot of

2744
06:38:51,107 --> 06:38:58,281
conversation and discussion has been pud. This is undoing a pud and some land use decisions that

2745
06:38:58,281 --> 06:39:05,622
were made in the past. So for the land use it's changing from office to the urban mixed use.

2746
06:39:05,622 --> 06:39:12,662
and the office designation really was established at the time to be underlying or supportive of the pd that

2747
06:39:12,662 --> 06:39:19,469
was established at that time. That pd zoning was very, very restrictive and

2748
06:39:19,469 --> 06:39:28,110
prescriptive and is directly written or crafted to support an office and pretty much strictly just office

2749
06:39:28,110 --> 06:39:34,384
and specifically what you all may remember or recognize as the george young office that has been

2750
06:39:34,384 --> 06:39:44,930
vacant for sometime now. And so really as a practical matter or practical nature of this it's to remove that

2751
06:39:44,930 --> 06:39:51,267
antiquated land use and replace it with a more current and appropriate land use and then zoning

2752
06:39:51,267 --> 06:39:59,542
ultimately. You can see the project location here between south main street southeast 16th.

2753
06:39:59,542 --> 06:40:05,181
this is wastewater treatment facility. And, of course, south main street here.

2754
06:40:05,181 --> 06:40:13,156
down in the southwest corner is the outer age of the kirkwood neighborhood here. Which then extends to the

2755
06:40:13,156 --> 06:40:19,620
south and the west of that direction. And actually on this slide, I will go ahead and point

2756
06:40:19,620 --> 06:40:25,935
out, I will speak to it a little bit later. There is the -- there's a water conveyance here that

2757
06:40:25,935 --> 06:40:35,935
is at least part creek and part manmade that then flows to the south and connects with coakley pond and

2758
06:40:36,145 --> 06:40:40,950
ultimately sweetwater branch which flows into the wetlands pack. There was some discussion in

2759
06:40:40,950 --> 06:40:46,923
the planning board and also acting environmental coordinator I will go ahead and go over some of those

2760
06:40:46,923 --> 06:40:55,665
issues there. This is the underlying land use. As I said it was to sort of

2761
06:40:55,665 --> 06:41:03,273
support the desire at the time to have the george f. Young and you will notice around it that there are

2762
06:41:03,273 --> 06:41:10,446
urban mixed use to the north here already which also you will see have zoning assigned to them.

2763
06:41:10,446 --> 06:41:16,986
residential multifamily to the east. The conservation that's associated with some of the

2764
06:41:16,986 --> 06:41:25,561
resource here. Conservation area that as we discussed at some previous items some weeks ago is

2765
06:41:25,561 --> 06:41:32,201
largely a buffer from the multifamily to the north and the single family neighborhood that is

2766
06:41:32,201 --> 06:41:40,143
kirkwood to the south and west here. Also important to point that this office designation even

2767
06:41:40,143 --> 06:41:50,119
though it's 1.63 acres the next closest office land use designation is more than a half mile away.

2768
06:41:50,119 --> 06:41:58,610
this is the zoning that shows the existing pd. This pd is the one that we're really discussing

2769
06:41:58,610 --> 06:42:07,170
here. You can also see that roughly the same time other pd was used for this site

2770
06:42:07,170 --> 06:42:13,900
the land was tailored and crafted to support or be associated with the repair shop that's on the corner

2771
06:42:13,900 --> 06:42:20,917
here as we spoke about in the previous item this simply is really not the way that planning approaches the

2772
06:42:20,917 --> 06:42:30,917
application of zoning or land use today. X currently established on this site, and it is one of

2773
06:42:37,266 --> 06:42:47,266
those zones and this becomes an important criteria for the applying zoning that I will go over.

2774
06:42:51,180 --> 06:43:00,690
these are the project details for the site. You can see you can see the existing land use and

2775
06:43:00,690 --> 06:43:05,962
zoning. It's 13,000 square feet of office space never fully built out.

2776
06:43:05,962 --> 06:43:11,901
there's the existing georgia f. Young site there today. Just the one office building.

2777
06:43:11,901 --> 06:43:21,501
and again it's vacant and has been vacant for quite sometime. The proposed land use and

2778
06:43:25,810 --> 06:43:31,721
zoning will go to the urban mixed use which is 60 dwelling units per acre by right.

2779
06:43:31,721 --> 06:43:39,562
and then with a special use permit that could be increased and then the associated zoning is the u-6

2780
06:43:39,562 --> 06:43:49,562
which is the 50 dwelling units per acre by right. To as a note when the applicant came to staff and

2781
06:43:50,239 --> 06:43:56,746
requested or sought feedback on what we would support or be supportive of in this area.

2782
06:43:56,746 --> 06:44:05,855
we suggested to go ahead and use the u-8 zoning that would make that one solid district in the area and

2783
06:44:05,855 --> 06:44:12,562
after neighborhood workshop and some neighborhood feedback the applicant came back with a request for

2784
06:44:12,562 --> 06:44:18,367
slightly less intense zoning districts. Just a note that there's been some of that back and

2785
06:44:18,367 --> 06:44:25,341
forth and listening while the project has been developed before bringing it to the planning board and

2786
06:44:25,341 --> 06:44:33,816
you here this evening. It is important to point out, though, of course that this is a significant

2787
06:44:33,816 --> 06:44:39,722
change, of course. The change in the land use will go something that's very restrictive and

2788
06:44:39,722 --> 06:44:47,290
prescriptive to something that is what we are more familiar with today on projects that we see

2789
06:44:47,290 --> 06:44:57,290
recently and currently. Some of the criteria for the changes to the land use, again, as usual.

2790
06:44:58,741 --> 06:45:05,848
I won't go through each one of these in complete total detail as the staff report goes over that.

2791
06:45:05,848 --> 06:45:11,621
but I do want to take the opportunity to go back to the environmental impacts and constraints here.

2792
06:45:11,621 --> 06:45:20,963
and I will go back to that first slide just to point out again that this is the beginning of a creek and the

2793
06:45:20,963 --> 06:45:28,370
more natural creek. It turns into what we would consider as the natural creek to the rear of this

2794
06:45:28,370 --> 06:45:34,977
tanglewood apartments down here. We didn't evaluate in detail what the environmental

2795
06:45:34,977 --> 06:45:44,320
resource is. This close to the highway. Because it does not actually go on to the property and

2796
06:45:44,320 --> 06:45:51,270
over time what happened here is that any of the water that did originally and I mean prior to the city being

2797
06:45:51,270 --> 06:45:58,568
developed, did flow to the south and east here and over time it has been developed over this intersection and

2798
06:45:58,568 --> 06:46:07,743
really today what was possibly in the distance past is a creek is now in a pipe and runs under south

2799
06:46:07,743 --> 06:46:13,816
main street. It is a man made water conveyance system. And that has different

2800
06:46:13,816 --> 06:46:21,900
applications for what gets protected in the comprehensive plan and the so really in effect here, what

2801
06:46:21,900 --> 06:46:29,365
could happen at the most, this would be treated as a totally natural creek. If we evaluated it and if that

2802
06:46:29,365 --> 06:46:36,500
is what the resource assessment came back as. And in that case. During that development, during

2803
06:46:36,500 --> 06:46:46,500
the application for development, the maximum distance from the top -- the brink and slope of brink is 150 feet of a buffer.

2804
06:46:46,382 --> 06:46:56,382
it can go all the way down to 35 feet and we make that an assessment or judgment when we get an actual assessment of the

2805
06:46:58,527 --> 06:47:07,903
feature. That would not have a direct impact on the land use change or the zoning necessarily.

2806
06:47:07,903 --> 06:47:17,903
we'll go back to the criteria are to the land use changes here. And we'll go for the short

2807
06:47:23,953 --> 06:47:31,827
version in the land development code. And then this, of course also goes through the rezoning

2808
06:47:31,827 --> 06:47:41,827
criteria. And one of the aspects here that I briefly mentioned is that there is a requirement that it

2809
06:47:42,380 --> 06:47:50,813
be at least ten acres and we have discussed this ten acre limitation and other petitions if we wanted to bring it up here

2810
06:47:50,813 --> 06:47:58,487
this evening. It's adjacent to a transect zone. That limitation does not apply

2811
06:47:58,487 --> 06:48:05,528
in this case. I did mention that there is a significant difference in the umu versus the office land use,

2812
06:48:05,528 --> 06:48:14,704
and the difference between the pd zoning and the u-6 zoning that's being requested. And of course it's important to

2813
06:48:14,704 --> 06:48:21,677
acknowledge the potential maximums. However, it's -- staff believes it's the narrowness of the uses

2814
06:48:21,677 --> 06:48:30,886
allowed today that's left the property vacant and we believe that the flexibility of the umu land use designation will

2815
06:48:30,886 --> 06:48:39,528
appropriately guide future land uses and allow things like what is being proposed in reality today, like day care, which is

2816
06:48:39,528 --> 06:48:49,128
not currently allowed on the site. And with that, staff recommends approval of ld-22-00005 and

2817
06:48:51,974 --> 06:49:00,974
ld-22000004 zoning without conditions. And if there are any questions, happy to answer them, the

2818
06:49:01,350 --> 06:49:06,422
applicant is here as well. And I believe has a presentation. >> thank you very much.

2819
06:49:06,422 --> 06:49:16,422
we'll invite the applicant or their designee up to make their presentation. >> I'm clay swagger and I'd like

2820
06:49:37,319 --> 06:49:43,659
to highlight a few things in addition to what has already been presented to you. This property is located at 1905

2821
06:49:43,659 --> 06:49:50,859
south main street. It's 1.6 acres. The old george f. Young engineering building.

2822
06:49:54,403 --> 06:50:04,403
there are two requests for you tonight, the land use change from office to urban mixed use umu, and the rezoning from td to

2823
06:50:04,914 --> 06:50:11,420
u6, I'll talk about that in a moment. There's some action needed by the city in our opinion.

2824
06:50:11,420 --> 06:50:18,594
there's a new owner. This pd is expired. There's really no modern zoning regulations that apply to this

2825
06:50:18,594 --> 06:50:25,734
property. And because of those reasons we're before you tonight asking for these map changes.

2826
06:50:25,734 --> 06:50:35,734
this is the existing city land use map showing the land use. You can see the urban mixed use leads to the northwest and

2827
06:50:36,345 --> 06:50:46,345
northeast in multifamily to the east and the proposed land use map tonight is umu in the -- I don't know what color that is

2828
06:50:49,258 --> 06:50:55,858
it. Lighter purple? The zoning map today is pd planned development.

2829
06:50:57,660 --> 06:51:07,660
this property was approved as a pd. The place up the street was also done as a pd.

2830
06:51:16,552 --> 06:51:26,552
that's a step down from the u8 zoning. Adjacent to the property to the north and to the northwest.

2831
06:51:31,767 --> 06:51:41,767
the building has been vacant now pretty much the entirety of 2022, waiting for potential action on these zoning changes.

2832
06:51:43,479 --> 06:51:53,479
one of the first renters could be a day care. We had a neighborhood workshop back in december.

2833
06:51:53,622 --> 06:51:59,461
there are quite a few neighbors from the kirkwood neighborhood that came out. And we're concerned about some

2834
06:51:59,461 --> 06:52:07,436
of the potential uses of the property. Because of that, we did proactively as applicant decide

2835
06:52:07,436 --> 06:52:14,843
to lower our request on the zoning from u8 to u6. That takes more of the high intensity uses off the table.

2836
06:52:14,843 --> 06:52:24,443
those are itemized and there are some others. Mini-storage hotels, car washes, vehicle sales and repair.

2837
06:52:39,680 --> 06:52:49,680
the pd is expired, we have a vacant building. Back in 2017 the city instituted the transect zoning plan.

2838
06:52:50,450 --> 06:53:00,450
and the properties to the north of us were put in u-8 zoning. Many of the old pd's were not put -- were not changed into

2839
06:53:01,423 --> 06:53:08,464
transect zoning, if they were it would already be zoned u8 is my estimation. There are several policies that

2840
06:53:08,464 --> 06:53:16,864
show consistency with the comprehensive plan. Most of them are regarding revitalizing urban areas,

2841
06:53:18,741 --> 06:53:27,149
discouraging sprawl. We have facilities in the area. It's really ripe for some new development activity right along

2842
06:53:27,149 --> 06:53:34,790
main street which is an arterial roadway. This is another policy discussing the discouragement of

2843
06:53:34,790 --> 06:53:44,790
urban sprawl by redevelopment in urban areas. As I mentioned, I don't want to repeat myself, but there are

2844
06:53:45,670 --> 06:53:52,107
multiple facets of why this is compatible with the area, with the land use and zoning pattern to the north and the step down

2845
06:53:52,107 --> 06:54:00,382
approach on this property. And also consistency with multiple family zoning to the east.

2846
06:54:00,382 --> 06:54:07,423
there are no environmental features on the property, no wetlands, no flood plains, no creeks, no surface waters, there

2847
06:54:07,423 --> 06:54:14,363
are potentially some of those to the south, but they're not on this particular site. If any redevelopment would come

2848
06:54:14,363 --> 06:54:19,601
along, they would have to comply with any set backs that would apply at that time. The application would support

2849
06:54:19,601 --> 06:54:29,601
the urban redevelopment concept. And there are public facilities available to serve the property. There are certain criteria as

2850
06:54:30,979 --> 06:54:40,979
forest mentioned when you propose a transect zoning you need to have at least 10 acres, and the pd right now has old

2851
06:54:41,523 --> 06:54:48,163
antiquated references to a code that's no longer in effect, none of us have a copy of it probably in this building.

2852
06:54:48,163 --> 06:54:55,204
and we've got the urban transect zoning to the north. So the plan board did hear this item, and I believe unanimously

2853
06:54:55,204 --> 06:55:01,777
recommended approval. Your staff recommends approval, we believe that we've met all the criteria for you to consider

2854
06:55:01,777 --> 06:55:08,617
and approve these items, and with that, I'd appreciate your consideration on it, and be happy to answer any questions

2855
06:55:08,617 --> 06:55:13,956
you have tonight. >> appreciate it. With that, we'll move back to the commission.

2856
06:55:13,956 --> 06:55:21,163
are there any further questions or is there a motion? Commissioner hayes-santos? >> thank you, mayor.

2857
06:55:21,163 --> 06:55:30,763
I move ordinance 2022-424 on adoption reading by title only. >> second. >> mayor: madam clerk, do you

2858
06:55:33,375 --> 06:55:38,614
have anyone signed up to speak to this item? >> no. >> mayor: we'll move back to the

2859
06:55:38,614 --> 06:55:44,586
commission for a roll call vote. >> commissioner duncan walker? >> aye. >> commissioner arreola?

2860
06:55:44,586 --> 06:55:48,186
>> aye. >> commissioner saco? >> aye. >> commissioner chestnut?

2861
06:55:48,223 --> 06:55:51,823
>> aye. >> commissioner ward? >> aye. >> commissioner hayes-santos?

2862
06:55:52,194 --> 06:55:56,994
>> aye. >> mayor poe? >> aye. That is approved unanimously.

2863
06:56:05,507 --> 06:56:14,483
the next item? >> ordinance number 211146 a an ordinance of the city of gainesville florida, amending

2864
06:56:14,483 --> 06:56:24,193
the future land use map of the comprehensive plan by changing the land use category of approximately 13.943 acres

2865
06:56:24,193 --> 06:56:34,193
generally located northeast of the intersection of sw willis ton road and sw 13th street and west of southwest 13th street

2866
06:56:35,700 --> 06:56:42,270
and south of southwest 36th place. >> mayor: I'm sorry I was confused.

2867
06:56:44,947 --> 06:56:50,719
before we do that, can we take up the companion zoning item we just heard and come back to this one?

2868
06:56:50,719 --> 06:56:56,458
>> okay. >> mayor: I apologize. It's simpler. We're going to come back to the

2869
06:56:56,458 --> 06:57:04,258
one you're interested in. >> z 1? >> ordinance number 211225 an ordinance of the city of

2870
06:57:09,671 --> 06:57:18,380
gainesville florida, amending the zoning map atlas by rezoning approximately 1.63 acres of property generally located at

2871
06:57:18,380 --> 06:57:25,354
1905 south main street. Providing directions to the city manager, severability clause, repealing clause and effective

2872
06:57:25,354 --> 06:57:31,590
date. >> mayor: thank you, mr. Edelston. >> mr. Edelston with the

2873
06:57:31,590 --> 06:57:37,666
department of sustainable development. This is the same presentation that is for the companion, I am

2874
06:57:37,666 --> 06:57:45,407
here to answer any questions you may have outstanding. It is. I believe it's been requested we

2875
06:57:45,407 --> 06:57:52,681
have a formal quasi judicial hearing. I'm going to turn to our city attorney for some guidance.

2876
06:57:52,681 --> 06:58:01,189
>> thank you, mr. Mayor, and I'll try to be brief. As you know, the commission sits for a general zoning case, as

2877
06:58:01,189 --> 06:58:10,320
opposed to setting policy, a proceeding is required. Rule 13 of your city commission rules provide the procedures for

2878
06:58:10,320 --> 06:58:17,239
conducting with formal and quasi formal hearings. The commission will hear all testimony offered, examine the

2879
06:58:17,239 --> 06:58:23,779
evidence presented and deliberate and a motion will be made. An informal hearing as we made

2880
06:58:23,779 --> 06:58:33,779
earlier this evening, the formal hearing is an oral order. The written order be placed on the commission agenda for

2881
06:58:39,294 --> 06:58:48,294
approval. Additionally, your rules, rule 13-c set forth the order of presentation a formal quasi

2882
06:58:49,471 --> 06:58:56,712
judicial proceeding if one is requested by a party or an affected party. That order, I'll run through it

2883
06:58:56,712 --> 06:59:05,754
quickly, first a, determination of affected party status, swearing-in of all the parties, disclosure of any inadvertent ex

2884
06:59:05,754 --> 06:59:11,460
parte communication, introduction of the matter by the staff, the petitioner's presentation, staff

2885
06:59:11,460 --> 06:59:17,899
presentation. Any affected party for or against the presentation. A rebuttal, presentation by the

2886
06:59:17,899 --> 06:59:27,899
petitioner staff and then a closing by the parties and affected parties following public comment and deliberation

2887
06:59:29,845 --> 06:59:39,755
by the commission. So the first order to proceed here is to determine if there has been a request for a formal

2888
06:59:39,755 --> 06:59:49,755
hearing by a person considering themselves as an affected party. >> mayor: can you give us guidance on what determines what

2889
06:59:50,699 --> 06:59:58,206
is or isn't an affected party. >> in general, someone who has an interest in property, real property within 400 feet of the

2890
06:59:58,206 --> 07:00:06,600
subject property. We do have one individual who has asserted affected party status.

2891
07:00:08,950 --> 07:00:18,226
I'm not sure if it's by virtue of owning property within 400 feet of the subject property or having some sort of

2892
07:00:18,226 --> 07:00:25,267
representative capacity of the organization within 400 feet of the subject property. Perhaps we could have --

2893
07:00:25,267 --> 07:00:30,739
>> mayor: all right, let's invite her up and then it will be up to the commission to determine whether they are

2894
07:00:30,739 --> 07:00:40,739
indeed an affected party or not. I want to be clear, while she comes up to introduce herself, our rules state there is only

2895
07:00:46,988 --> 07:00:54,930
one stipulation for being an affected party. >> you must have interest in a property within 400 feet of the

2896
07:00:54,930 --> 07:00:59,730
subject property. Yes. >> mayor: okay. >> mayor: just introduce

2897
07:01:02,537 --> 07:01:09,770
yourself, and then I think the issue the commission needs to determine is whether you own real property or have interest

2898
07:01:09,770 --> 07:01:16,284
in real property within 400 feet of this proposal. >> jane bowman, I received a card from the city stating that

2899
07:01:16,284 --> 07:01:26,284
I was an affected property because a person -- because of the -- a strip of land right next to the property.

2900
07:01:30,532 --> 07:01:40,532
it's 15701-50300 which you will find, from your own records. And I'm a representative of the neighborhood.

2901
07:01:42,611 --> 07:01:50,118
I'm also the person that pays the property taxes. All of that is on record. >> mayor: of that property

2902
07:01:50,118 --> 07:01:54,689
that's within the 400 feet? >> yes. The strip. >> mayor: it sounds to me like

2903
07:01:54,689 --> 07:02:00,529
you do meet the criteria for an affected party. Do we do that through a motion or without objection?

2904
07:02:00,529 --> 07:02:06,701
>> I think without objection. It's up to the commission to decide, but -- >> mayor: without objection.

2905
07:02:06,701 --> 07:02:12,474
we'll determine that miss holten is an affected party in this matter. >> thank you.

2906
07:02:12,474 --> 07:02:17,445
>> mayor: next, we do the swearing-in of the parties, and so we need the representative for the applicant.

2907
07:02:17,445 --> 07:02:27,155
we need our city staff representative. And the affected party. And I'll let you -- madam clerk,

2908
07:02:27,155 --> 07:02:37,155
that's you, yeah. Just give us a moment. We haven't done a formal quasi judicial hearing in a while.

2909
07:02:40,100 --> 07:02:44,940
we're knocking the rust off a little bit. >> do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give

2910
07:02:44,940 --> 07:02:54,940
is the truth? >> it is the truth. >> mayor: you are sworn in. Attorney, what is your next

2911
07:02:55,317 --> 07:03:03,191
order of business? >> if any member of the commission has had annex par tay communication regarding this

2912
07:03:03,191 --> 07:03:08,363
matter. >> mayor: if you'll define ex parte communications? >> communication with one of the

2913
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parties on the matter that's about to come before you on this hearing, and then if any communication has been made then

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a statement as to whether or not they can still be an unbiased decision maker. An unbiased decision maker being

2915
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someone you need to meet in order to assure due process in this matter. >> mayor: does anyone wish to

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disclose any ex parte communication on this matter? Seeing none, it looks like no one has had any ex parte

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communications. >> we move on to the introduction of the matter by the staff.

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>> mayor: the staff has done. >> we can incorporate that into the hearing. The petitioner will be able to

2919
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make a presentation or incorporate the presentation provided. >> mayor: we'll have the

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petitioner up first, and then staff and then affected party? >> yes. Followed by staff and affected

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party. >> mayor: very good, one moment and we'll give you a chance to make your presentation.

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>> good evening mr. Mayor and commissioners I'm clay swagger. I just gave a presentation, it's on file and in your backup

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material as part of the record of this hearing, all of the findings that were in that presentation and the

2924
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justification report is also in the backup material, I would submit to you for consideration on this rezoning.

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I would also like to state that the rezoning proposed tonight is u6 is consistent with the umu land use designation that was

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just approved by the city commission. Section 30-4.2 of the land development code indicates the

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compatible zoning districts with urban mixed use umu land use. Those include umu 6, 7 and 8. I am requesting of you the

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lowest density and intensity that's now compatible with the land use designation of umu. If you have any questions I'll

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be hear to answer. >> mayor: thank you very much. It's staff's opportunity to make their presentation.

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>> good evening mr. Mayor, same as before. I'm happy to make the presentation again if it's

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helpful? >> mayor: any desire to have him do that? We're good.

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and then the affected party, I think they have up to 10 minutes, is that correct? >> 15.

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>> mayor: all right, it's your opportunity here. >> thank you, commissioner. I studied all the documents and

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today I made a discovery of the certain area of the muni code which I had not previously looked at.

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that was to do with land use and zoning next to a nature park. And what we find is the con is part of an h park, which

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restricts the use of that property. I can show you a picture -- I should show you that just in

2937
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truthfulness here it says -- right there, it says welcome to nature park, city of gainesville.

2938
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I hadn't thought about that until I came across the muni code which states quite clearly if there's a nature park, the

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nature park will be -- if any property lies within the 400 feet of the park or preservation area is regulated as set forth

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in this section. The maximum building height shall be 35 feet. There's a comment about lighting

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[ inaudible ] the main thing is to do with the height of the structure. It depends what the applicant

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plans to do with the land. There are some expansions or alterations, existing uses, rules that I can draw your

2943
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attention to hear. Depending on what the expansion is, after june '92 which it will be over 2,000 square feet, I

2944
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don't know. Or 20%, the entire statute should be in compliance with this statute.

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any new uses shall meet all applicable requirements of the section. The city manager has to enforce

2946
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it. This is part of the muni code I discovered this afternoon, I would have discussed it in my

2947
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piece before. What I was focusing on actually was the policy toward wetlands and buffers.

2948
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making sure that those are very carefully followed. And I ask that for a very specific reason that I will

2949
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present to you now. Is, if you look at this map, which is my -- the work -- the only way I could do it, what you

2950
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have here is on this -- all this orangey color is the city conservation, city owned land. The orangey part is a flood

2951
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plane. What you got is a whole system of water, that goes from the edge of the property as you see,

2952
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is city owned, what you have, you have a creek coming out here, it leads into what's called culper pond, a regulated

2953
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body of water. I have talked about these -- this area to the state department of protection and the

2954
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st. John's water river management district about the issue with plants. I've had the discussion with

2955
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them, those would be regulated bodies of water. There's a pond here which is highly contaminated, in terrible

2956
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condition, I have been trying for years to have it fixed. The water flows and goes into tumbling creek.

2957
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and that goes all the way around into bevins. Which goes out of prince prairie.

2958
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this whole system is very much impacted by any water flow, storm water because it moves down and through.

2959
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anything by the way, from the south of the city comes this way. So there is an interest of many

2960
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people that would -- could possibly be affected by any storm water, increasing storm water, that's what I brought up

2961
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first of all when I came as an affected party. To make sure all storm water stayed on site.

2962
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I was totally unaware of the nature park element. I brought that to your attention.

2963
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in terms of what people have said, I looked at the map, what you can see is, we have -- it appears the strip was brought to

2964
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abut. There's a tiny strip that was incorporated into -- you can't see it, it's incorporated into

2965
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the two parcels to abut. I'm not arguing with that, it's the truth, it's right there. 2 would make more sense to put a

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line across here, and say we're not going to go into the transect zone. That's way up here.

2967
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that's the intention to have the transect zone up here where you have above southwest 16th. And I took a look at other

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documents which are about zones and transect zones in the city. The city documents. They're very few pedestrians.

2969
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I think urban zone would be the most sensible zone to have for this as a transect zone. And urban zone.

2970
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it's not particularly intense or dense. When you go to urban zone, have you all these allowances, which

2971
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does allow a day care. I was told at the plan board meeting, no, no, no day care isn't allowed.

2972
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I was misinformed by who said no. That is that one, the other aspect of it is, let's see if I

2973
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can find that in my presentation. Certain things that were said or not done, I don't believe the

2974
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environmental impact has been done appropriately was taken into consideration for things. So in fact what happens is, the

2975
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statements are not correct. The issues. Compatibility, I would say no. U-6 is not compatible.

2976
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protection of wetlands has not occurred or considered, I would claim. Zoning, I would say u-1 fits

2977
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very well, it's part of the transect zone, it would be the beginning transect zone as it comes down.

2978
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compliance with the comprehensive plan. They take into consideration within your own rules, I think

2979
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35 feet is what I said. So the issues with zoning, buffering storm water compliance, materials.

2980
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so north and south, you can read my own things, in general, a small one story building. Some apartments in the rear.

2981
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I don't think it's justified to go much higher than that. So what else happens here? Yes, plan board, clarification

2982
07:13:34,422 --> 07:13:43,300
of plan board staff. I wrote down here staff errors, of any properties within half a mile, proper land use

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[ inaudible ] will the proposed use of the property be impacted by any creeks, lakes, wetlands, native

2984
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plants or greenways. No. That was clearly stated at the plan board.

2985
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that's clearly untrue. There is an abutting -- [ inaudible ] there's tumbling creek, a pond,

2986
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the prairie. There are impacts. I don't think the allowance of a six story building possibly

2987
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could even have student apartments or such things is appropriate for that location. U1, urban -- the -- what we just

2988
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said here, the urban zone 1 and u-1 allows a day care which is what I believe the applicant seeks.

2989
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it is much less intense, it is much more sensitive to the use of the site. So I basically ask that -- this

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is u1 here, can would be three foot. Is that 35 feet, whatever? And so the map -- so that's

2991
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basically my basis is upon what is in the surrounding area, what the code says has to be done. When you're right next to a city

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park. So I don't know if there are any questions to me, does that come next or how does that work?

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>> mayor: mr. Attorney? [ inaudible ] >> an opportunity for rebuttal by the petitioner and staff.