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Thanks on the mayor of Great City of Estonia. On behalf of the City Council myself, I'd like to welcome you to September 16th, 2025 meeting. I will now call the meeting to order. First up, we'll be our invocation in location by Councilwoman Steph.

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If you were so inclined, I would ask you to bow your head with me as we begin our meeting with the prayer.

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Dear Heavenly Father, we come together tonight with gratitude for the opportunity to serve our city.

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We ask your blessing on this meeting and I'm all who are gathered here.

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You know the burdens we care, the weight of recent events and tragedies in our region, our state and our country.

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We ask you to ease the hurt and bring the good out of these horrible acts of violence and disregard of why that only you can.

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We praise specifically for the family's affected by loss that is unimaginable for most of us.

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We pray against the divisions and the discord that are hurting our country and causing strain and pain among us.

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God, you know the challenges we face, but you promised to never leave us, or forsake us,

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and we ask you to lead us through difficult times.

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We ask for your healing hand over our city, our state, and our country.

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Grinas hearts of love and kindness help us to see one another, not as enemies, but as neighbors,

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as brothers and sisters, sharing one community.

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Show us ways to come together, even when we differ, so that unity and peace may not take

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group here. Where there's confusion or conflict, we ask that the truth always be revealed.

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We ask that impure motives would be made clear. And where there are voices working

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against the good of our community, the unity, integrity, and light prevail. We pray for

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your blessing on our citizens and your mercy on those who are suffering. Let us be used as your

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instruments to minister and find solutions. Protect our staff and our first responders as they

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strengthen them, show them, and bless their families.

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And we ask you, grant this council wisdom and disarmament,

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may we never leave through selfish ambition,

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but through honesty, fairness, and humility,

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may we be faithful stewards of the trust given to us,

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and may our efforts bring hope, harmony,

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and our brighter future for all.

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Let us listen with respect, speak, with care,

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and work with courage to do what is right for all people.

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May truth and fairness guide our decisions,

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and make peace, love, and unity grows stronger in our community, and your name we pray

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Amen.

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Mr. Stoke,

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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, in the visible

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liberty and justice for all.

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Excuse the Mayor Pro Tim for the seat means meeting.

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Second.

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We have a motion.

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Second.

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we have the adoption of the agenda, everybody should have the agenda in front of you, are there any corrections,

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additions, collisions to the agenda? Having done? And I have a motion to accept it.

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So moved. We have a motion. Can I have a second? Second.

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We have a second by Councilwoman Barber, all those in favour?

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She nanomiss. Next up, we have the approval of the minutes. We have one set tonight.

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It was from our regular city council meeting on September 2nd, 2025.

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Can I have a motion to approve those?

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We have a motion by councilwoman, little John.

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We have a second.

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We have a second by councilwoman's step.

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All those in favor?

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It's unanimous.

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First up, we're going to have a proclamation,

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Recognizing September 28th, 2025,

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as good neighbor day.

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And I usually don't want to take a shot here,

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Mr. Dan Elman.

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Okay, Mr. Bill Radcliffe, Mr. Zion McKinsey, and Ms. Tiffany Wiley, and our presenter will be Councilwoman Step.

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Now, I'm going to come on up.

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So thank you for being here tonight with us.

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And I'm going to read the proclamation, and then we're going to get our picture taken.

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All right, so this is for our good neighbor day.

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Whereas, the noblest human concern is concerned for others, and that concern leads to the understanding, love, and respect that builds cohesive families and communities, and whereas, for most of us, this sense of community is nurtured and expressed in our neighborhoods, where we give each other an opportunity to share and feel part of a larger family.

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And whereas, the City of Gastonia recognizes the importance of fostering compassion and

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respect in ourselves and for our neighbors.

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And whereas, the United States government has designated September 28th of each year as

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National Good Neighbor Day.

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Now therefore, I Richard Frank Smayer and the City Council of the City of Gastonia here

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by Proclaim September 28th, 2025 as good neighbor day in Gastonia and we call upon the

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residents of this city to make a special effort on that day to demonstrate what being a good

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neighbor is all about through acts of kindness and making people feel welcome. In witness

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there, I have here on to set my hand and calls to the city of Gastonia to be a fixed. This is

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16th day of September in the year of our Lord,

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2025 signed by the Honorable Richard Franks Mayor

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and attested by Susan Gives City Clerk.

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So I've got one first.

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All right, thank you.

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And would you either be like a person from the title?

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You have to speak to me.

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Thank you so much for the proclamation.

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I want to introduce myself for anybody

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that doesn't know me.

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My name is Corelli Chavez.

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And as the new neighborhood program administrator,

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I have the privilege of working closely with recognized communities and community leaders,

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such as these wonderful people here, and I've seen first-hand just how deeply they care about their neighbors

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and how hard they work to make sure that their communities are our communities that they're proud to call their home.

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So that kind of spirit of care and connection is what I think makes a good neighbor, and so I'd like to invite to just a few of them

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to share what to the ACE program and what being a good neighbor means to them.

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Just very briefly.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Mayor, City Council members.

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My name is Bill Radcliffe.

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I'm the president of the Bethesda Oaks H.O.A.

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and we were one of the founding communities of the ACE program.

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And we first of all want to thank you for the program.

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It has been a great collaboration between the city and our residents

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on both directions and when we appreciate it.

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also want to thank you for the proclamation.

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It is nice when city and citizens can work together

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and I think this proclamation is supporting that effort and thank you.

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Good evening.

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I'm Dan and I'm with Laura Lee's community and I want to just reiterate what he just said

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because we really feel that that relationship that we have with the city is really what makes us

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as strong as we are, Carelli has stepped into the big shoes

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that Tyler Davis left behind.

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And she inherited a lot of communities.

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Prior to she came into it, and she has been just

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wonderful, so supportive as we feel with many in the city

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that work with us all these years.

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What I want to share with you, though,

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is what we have done, we're blessed to have in our neighborhood,

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really caring neighbors, and it's not just for today,

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but something that we see here around.

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One particular example I'd like to give is

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a couple years ago, a tree fell on one of our neighbor's house

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and his sat there and his sat there and we were wondering,

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you know, what could we do?

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What's going on?

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Why are they getting it done?

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Well, it turns out they're having a lot of serious financial problems,

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health problems.

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So we just knocked on the door and said,

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can we help in any way?

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And they were, you know, reluctant at first,

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but they said okay, that was three years ago.

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Since then, we, one of the neighbors takes care of their,

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they have an acre of property.

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They mow their lawn, the trees are kept trimmed.

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Anyway, that we can help.

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It turns out that the husband in the family

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was very, very ill, has passed away.

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But what we did and what we continue to do

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is something that can be done by all of us here.

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And again, with the support that we've had

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in the city, we just can't go wrong.

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So thank you for your support.

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Before we get a picture I'd like to make a motion that we accept the

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Proclamation as presented we have a second by council on the little John all those in favor

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Next up, we have a proclamation recognizing September the 20th, 2025, as Gaston recovery day.

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The recipient will be Dr. Juan De Jones. She is the executive director of a safe place

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and powerment network incorporated. Presenter will be Councilwoman Daniel Barber.

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good evening. It gives me great honor to present this

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proclamation to Dr. Jones, if you'll step forward and

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whomever you'd like to come with you at this time to

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receive this proclamation.

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Good evening.

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Hey, you forgot your brother. You got to get your brother.

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Okay. This proclamation reads,

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whereas National Recovery Month is observed every

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September to increase awareness and understand and

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mental health and substance use disorders and to celebrate the people who recover.

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And whereas countless gas and county residents have been impacted by addiction and mental

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health challenges and the power of recovery has helped many rebuild their lives and re-engaged

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with their communities.

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And whereas the city of Gastonia recognizes that recovery from substance use and mental health

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challenges is a journey that strengthens individuals, families, and communities and supports

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efforts that reduce stigma, expand access to treatment, and promote recovery for all.

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And whereas community events like Gaston County Recovery Walk brings together individuals,

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families, providers, and allies to walk in solidarity, celebrate recovery, and connect

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local resources and support, as well as help foster hope, promote wellness and remind us that recovery

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is possible for everyone. Now therefore, be it resolved, I Richard Franks, Mayor of the City of

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Gastonia and the City Council of the City of Gastonia do here by proclaim September 20th,

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2025 as Gaston recovery day. In the City of Gastonia and encouraged all citizens to participate

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in the annual gas encounter recovery walk to be held this Saturday, September 20, 2025.

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In witness thereof, I have here and to set my hand and calls the seal of the City of

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Gastonia to be a fix.

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This is the 16th day of September in the year of our lower 2025 sign by our mayor, Richard

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Franks, an attested by our city clerk Suzanne Gibbs.

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Thank you for all of your work that you do all year long to address the needs of those

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who have substance abuse disorders as well as those who are violent mental health.

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So, this is just one day that in our community that we're highlighting these issues, but certainly this is something that you are on the front lines, you and your team are on the front lines of each and every day. So, if you all would join me in congratulating them for the work that they do all your long, at this time with a round of applause. Thank you. And I'm sure she'll share some more information about this Saturday's recovery well. Congratulations.

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So much, Psalms 118 and 23 says, this is the Lord's doing and it's marvelous in his sight.

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And that's where my heart is.

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This is not my doing.

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I stand here as a representative of so many who's doing this work.

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And so I want to say I want to guide first and to the may and city council and everybody here.

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Thank you so much for acknowledging this day.

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not so much, it's me, but this day, the day that we are going to highlight so many that

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is on the ground, doing the work, but I came to Gastonia, it didn't look like Gastonia

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needed me, but as I said still, I saw where I could be best suited, and the first thing

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I did was did an assessment, because I didn't just want to duplicate services, I wanted

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to know where I really was needed, and mental health and substance use, I felt like I

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to really be of an impact.

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So thank you so much to everyone who's doing the work.

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Thank you to my family, my friends.

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Thank you to my staff, not just the staff,

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that's current, but the staff that has come before them

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because it's been many, that's helped me get to help us get here.

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Saturday will be at Irwin Park from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.

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We have over 50 vendors, food trucks, we have youth,

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We give it backpacks away hygiene kits, we're just going to make it a day, that we highlight

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those who are doing the work, and that's one of the things that I saw was that so many

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people are really touching the lives of one addict, so many people touch that, the paramedic

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such it, police touch it, and that's, I mean, the primary care, substance use, DSS, the school

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system, so many of us touch that life, but not a lot of us know about with the services

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in the supports are.

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So that's what I aim to do, and I'm so grateful that on the 20th, it's Gastonia's

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Recovery Day, and it's a day that I will always celebrate.

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Thank you so much for this honor and privilege to be a part of this work.

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Thank you.

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And while we're assembling for a picture, if I get a motion to accept this, proclamation.

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Second. Next up,

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we have a proclamation recognizing October the 5th through the 11th of

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the 2025 As Fire Prevention Week. The recipient is Mr. Brady Bass. He's our deputy fire chief

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and our presenter is Caltson, make a seat of this.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Chief Welch, I want to come on up here as well,

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please, since you're here.

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If you don't mind,

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good evening, everyone.

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I'd like to read this proclamation.

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Whereas the City of Gastonia is committed to ensuring

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the safety and security of all those living in and visiting

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our city, whereas fire remains a serious public safety

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concern both locally and nationally and the presence of lithium-ion batteries in many household

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devices introduces unique fire risks and whereas most of the electronics use in homes daily

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include smartphones, tablets, laptops, power tools, e-bikes, e-scooters and toys are all powered

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by lithium-ion batteries which if misuse damage or improperly charged can over-he start a

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fire or explode. And whereas the National Fire Protection Association reports an increase in

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battery-related fires, underscoring the need for public education on the safe use of lithium-ion

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batteries. And whereas residents should follow three key calls to action by only listed products,

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charge batteries safely and recycle them responsibly to prevent battery-related fires.

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And whereas lithium-ion batteries store a large amount of energy in a small space and improper

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use such as overcharging using off-brand chargers without safety certification or exposing

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batteries to damage can result in fire or explosion. And whereas the proper disposal and recycling

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of lithium-ion batteries help prevent environmental hazards and reduce fire risk in the home and in the community.

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And whereas the city of Gastonia first responders are dedicated to reducing the occurrence of fires through prevention,

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safety education, and community outreach.

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And whereas the 2025 fire prevention week theme charge into fire safety,

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safety. Again, charge, and so fire safety. Lithium ion batteries in your home serve

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to remind us of the importance of using charging and recycling lithium ion batteries

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safely to reduce the risk of fires and homes and in our communities. Now, therefore, the

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mayor and council of the city of Gastonia do hereby proclaim October 5th through the 11th,

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2025 as fire prevention week. In the city of Gastonia and urge all citizens to protect their homes

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and families by heating their important messages of fire prevention week 2025, and to support

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the many public safety activities and efforts of North Carolina's fire and emergency services.

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In witness where I have here on to set my hand and calls the official seal of the city of Gastonia

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to be a fix. This, the 16th day of September in the year of our Lord,

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2025, this population is signed by our Mayor Richard Franks and attested by Susan Gibbs,

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our city clerk. I'd like to present this to our fire chiefs and thank them for all of their service

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and keeping us safe and teaching us these things because batteries are everywhere.

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There are no cell phones that you're holding in your hand. So no one that safety and

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Celebrating this is great so I'll open it up to our chiefs here if anyone wants to speak and present this to you

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I'll speak briefly the information for the proclamation came from the NPA

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So that's that was put out when when we had the proclamation printed

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a month ago three weeks or a month ago

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Our crews are on the scene right now in Laura Lane of the lithium battery fire

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So it came in about 530

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and the occupant is being transported to the hospital.

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He just had some inhalation of the smoke from the batteries.

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It's ironic that it came up.

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I had even forgotten that we had the battery information

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in the proclamation.

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That's a rhyme.

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I could make a song.

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So it's crazy.

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So our cruiser seal on the scene now of that lithium battery

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if our own eight street right off a lower lane,

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he should be fine.

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The paramedics were intriguing him as I left,

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just before the council meeting, and came here.

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Thank you for the proclamation.

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And far pervention week, this is actually the month

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that our crews go out and they try to hit all of the classrooms,

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all the schools, a lot of daycares during this month,

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then a special event, like at Lowe's and Home Depot,

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things like that, they'll have special things,

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Spire related this month.

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Thank you all and thank you for your support.

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We'd like to say thank you for your support.

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We couldn't do our job without the support from you all in management.

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We've got a great fire department and just thank you for your support.

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And remember, fire safety is everyone's job.

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Not just a fire department.

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And Mary, if I may, I'd like to make a motion to accept the

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Proclamation as written and presented.

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Next up, we have a Proclamation Recognizing

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recognizing October the 5th through the 11th, 2025, that's public power week.

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The recipient is Mr. Adrian certain he is our division manager of electric utilities.

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The presentation will be by Council and Jim Gallagher.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor, appreciate that.

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This population is for the public power, which Gastonia is part of.

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It is crucial component in our city and towns across North Carolina.

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contributing to the overall health of communities by providing reliable electricity,

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excellent local service and pump restoration.

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North Carolina has more than 70 public power cities in towns

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are among the 2,000 across the country.

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And most North Carolina public power cities in towns have electric providers

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for more than 100 years.

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The city of Gastonia maintains 536 miles of distribution lines and 10,168 streetlights.

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I didn't know we had that many. 11 substations in over 31,000 customer accounts.

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Whereas public power meets the electric needs of 54 million Americans that's 1 in 7

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Electric utility customers are served by public power.

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North Carolina's public power utilities are a valuable community asset that contribute

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to the well-being of the community and provide economic development and opportunities.

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And I like to say that whenever we have our lights go out, these guys respond quicker than

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Duke does.

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They are phenomenal.

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And these are the alignment back here.

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These guys are the champions.

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They go out when it's raining and they've got to go up in those poles and fix their

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everything. They're the men. We're as North Carolina's public power utilities are dependable

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institutions and provide excellent service and commitment to the community. Now, therefore,

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beat resolved that the mayor and council of the City of Gastonia and North Carolina

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do hereby proclaim the week of October 5 to 11, 2025 as public power week. And the City of Gastonia

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joins other North Carolina public power communities as well as all public power systems in the United

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States and celebration of public power. In witness their love, I have here two set my hand

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and cause the official seal of the city of Gastonio to be fixed this 16th day in the year of our

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Mr. Certain and just tell these guys, thank you very much.

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Is you got some words to say?

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Thank you.

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Thank you, guys, for recognizing public power week.

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I will say that we're going to be at the fall festival, so we invite everybody to come out and pay us a visit.

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And I'll let my guys introduce them.

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Thanks, Brandon Phillips, I'm a crew supervisor, and I appreciate all your support.

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Thank

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you.

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Jonathan Jenkins, Association Technician. Thank you.

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Jaglong say, Lantek Bauer. Thank you.

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I'd like to give him a round of applause.

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I'd also like to make a motion that we accept this

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profumation and then we'll take the photo.

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So...

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Hello.

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Next up, we'll have the Municipal Government Citizens Academy emotional video and program update.

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It's currently Shavins. She is our Abrahood

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Corelli.

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Thank you.

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Our neighborhood program administrator. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. I appreciate that. You guys get the pleasure seeing me up here twice tonight.

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So, the Citizens Academy is a program designed to give residents, business owners, and city

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of Gastonia employees, and inside look as to how the city operates.

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So over the course of six months, participants meet city leaders, tour facilities, and they

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learn directly from department heads about the services and resources that the city of Gastonia

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has to offer.

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So, this program builds stronger community connections and helps participants better understand and engage with local government and this year to help promote the upcoming Academy class a short promotional video was developed by our own marketing department and it features recent graduates kind of sharing their experience with the Academy and

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And some takes a take away from the program.

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So the video includes a brief introduction

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about the Academy's purpose, program eligibility,

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and encourages participants of both residents

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and city employees.

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So I would like to play that video here

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for you all if I can remember how to do this.

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And the marketing department did a wonderful job.

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Jessica Roberts did amazing.

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She did an amazing job.

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So if you see me crunching, it's because I have to hear my voice.

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It's my own voice.

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Sorry, it's loading.

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I'm just definitely not right.

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Okay. We're thinking...

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We've played this earlier.

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From right here, boys.

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We're being executed.

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Honestly, I was working right before the meeting.

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Five minutes from the board.

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Our IT department loves to do maintenance on our systems on Tuesday evenings, and so I'm hoping

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that this is not attached to that, it's what I'm hoping.

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But the file is on the seed drive, so it shouldn't have affected anything.

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It's from there.

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Can we do public expression and come back to the video?

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Just a suggestion.

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Is

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it rebooting Mary?

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Yes.

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I had to re-log in, so, and it's waking up.

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But if you have your YouTube login, and we have, and how, okay.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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I'm going to go see if the driver, the version that's

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So my thumb drive will play.

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We can.

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Well, while we're waiting on that.

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I can barely chop this.

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Very.

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You probably heard the saying, knowledge of how to do it.

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Something's happening.

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What if I told you that power is right at your feet?

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Is you just had to walk away.

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You're going to restart it,

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and volume should be up already.

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This is the video I promised.

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Hi, I'm currently Chavez.

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You've probably heard the saying, knowledge is powered.

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Well, what if I told you that power is right at your fingertips?

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Introducing Citizens Academy, your chance to step inside local government, meet department

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leaders, tour facilities, and even get a chance to write along with the Gastonia Police.

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These guys were like half-notch as far as information.

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Am I giving a part of Citizens Academy was actually the police right along?

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And now I really looked forward to that. I just learned a lot from her and I feel like I got to

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see a lot of different sides of policing.

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the other thing that was really neat learned was how the city of Gastonia runs its own

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electric and water system that was so neat. It was good to know that they like

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put out a lot of money for this new system and the new system was like we're like

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number one and the whole state of good water. I got inside the firefighter trucks. We we

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went to a mini parade around the city and everybody was happy just like we felt like kids.

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I think one of my best memories is

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a ski shooting with Parks and Rec.

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So I enjoyed the hands on experiences.

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And what's nice too is that they do most of the work themselves.

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So they're keeping the cost down for us citizens,

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by not contracting it out to other companies.

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They really know how to manage their talent

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and try to keep the cost low for the citizens too.

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I know you have questions about your city.

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I know you want to talk to them about why this light

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They're going fast enough for you on your daily traffic movement, you know, the boat tries

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like you can just put it out and then they come get it.

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So a lot of people didn't know what days they were.

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Then they gave them the whole boat tries schedule for the whole year, you know, I know you have

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a question about your city.

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So if you have any questions about your city, you come here and you can get a answered.

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I would just wish more people knew that it was available.

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I think it's very easy and I'm guilty of this myself to complain about something or

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people be like, I don't like XYZ about government, but a lot of people don't have a thorough

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knowledge of it. I never did nothing like this before. I'm glad I did something for myself.

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I feel good being a citizen. Very few people take it and we're a graduate. Most people are like,

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I learn so much, you know, and they're looking to be, you know, they're kind of like the cities

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ambassadors after that. Applications for the next session are open right now. Apply today and be a

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part of the next class of change makers in our community.

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A lot of it weren't for every finally got

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it to work. So as I just said in the video, the 2026 Citizens Academy is open too, Gastonia residents,

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business owners and city employees. So interested individuals can apply on our website space is limited.

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So you know apply early and I really look forward to continuing to grow this program into welcome the next class of engaged community members and employees

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Thank you for your time.

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Next up. We will have public expression there are four people signed up and you will each have five minutes first up to be Teddy

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Sure.

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Good evening. So I'm a resident of Huntington Forest, over off of Hoffman Road, South

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New Hope area, where they're doing a lot of construction and building. We've been advised

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that there's going to be a new neighborhood getting put in. Three hundred to six hundred

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houses, I don't really know. But our main concern is the round about that got installed just

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last week, it is on about a quarter of a mile, length road.

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We've got a stop sign from Hoffman to the next road in our neighborhood, and they put

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around about right in the middle of it.

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Any normal car, a small compact car, can go around it, but me and my husband, we pull trailers

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every day for work, we have to drive over it.

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Fire trucks have to drive over it.

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buses are going over it. Nobody can easily go around this if they pull anything larger than a

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compact SUV. We've got people already saying they've skipped their rims, their tires, it's

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just not thought out. There's not enough room there for around about and I don't understand why

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they didn't just put a stop sign for the neighborhood that is going to be then getting onto our road.

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I encourage all of you if you have a trailer to go down that road and see how to navigate it.

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And if you know of a way without hitting the curb, please let me know, because every morning on taking out their crossing cones, which they laughed at me.

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We're hopping it, we're jumping it, we're scuffing up our tires, we're scuffing up the new round about that, it's only then there may be five days.

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Everybody on our Facebook group is complaining about it. Nobody's happy about this round about and it just does not make sense to have it there

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So that's pretty much our concern

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We there's someone that's already said that they spoke with the fire Marshall today who said that it needs to be

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Re-valuated it's not an appropriate size

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Even though someone from the city has emailed me telling me that that's the standard size for a standard car

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But trucks and any large vehicles have to drive over it. So it's a glorified circle speed hump

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00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:51,680
So I don't know why they didn't just put a speed hump speed hump

460
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:59,010
But yeah, that's about it. I wasn't planning on speaking tonight, so I don't have anything written out for my way

461
00:43:59,010 --> 00:44:03,920
But thank you for listening and I hope that y'all re-valuate it

462
00:44:12,020 --> 00:44:13,700
Tucker, can you

463
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:17,500
I'm looking at a map and what road is this on?

464
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:24,980
So it's right there at Leonard and Hickory Hollow, it's in the middle of that road in Leonard.

465
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:35,790
I just wanted to look at it on a map.

466
00:44:36,310 --> 00:44:37,530
Thank you.

467
00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:42,340
Next up, we'll have the first name Miss Phillips.

468
00:44:43,940 --> 00:44:44,840
Last name Phillips.

469
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,000
Don't want to put you the name.

470
00:45:09,420 --> 00:45:19,640
This is in reference to, I think, it's 2.7, the city ordinance for a center located in the residents, and

471
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:31,360
Mayor and Dear Council members. I'm here as a long time residents of Gastonia and a licensed home child care center provider.

472
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:38,060
We've been probably serving our community for 20, 21 years now, and throughout this time, I've

473
00:45:38,060 --> 00:45:43,480
had to care for generations of children, help support mentor, fellow child care providers

474
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960
in establishing and growing their own programs.

475
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:52,320
This is my husband, Paris, and recently, he left his job for 15 years working at IKEA

476
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,480
and Charlotte to help me.

477
00:45:54,860 --> 00:46:00,080
We received a partial grant from the Division of Child Development to expand our home, so

478
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:07,320
We expanded our home about 1200 to 1300 square feet and creating a dedicated space which is solely

479
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,280
for child care.

480
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,100
This expansion was designed specifically to allow us to legally and responsibly serve more

481
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:15,560
families in need.

482
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:21,120
This alignment with that my husband, like I said, he left his job four time.

483
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:27,240
However, unless I see these local ordinance are updated to reflect the House Bill 412 session

484
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:33,600
on our 2025-36, which was passed effective July 1st, 2025.

485
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,260
We may be unable to utilize the grant as intended,

486
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:40,040
putting us at risk of having to repay those funds

487
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,240
and undermine an liability to serve.

488
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:45,140
Governor Josh Stein officially signed that into law

489
00:46:45,140 --> 00:46:46,560
on that effective date.

490
00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:50,080
House Bill 412 constitutes a significant step forward

491
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,960
in a child care regulatory reform.

492
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,280
For example, it relaxes certain side group size requirements

493
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,700
allowed on providers to care for more children

494
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:01,760
while maintaining the central staff to child care ratio.

495
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,440
It also includes us increase in maximum group sizes

496
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,500
that benefits both infant and toddler and vitamins

497
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:12,520
with a lot of parents are struggling with right now.

498
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:16,560
It permits lead teachers, credentials, flexibility,

499
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,900
recognize five years of documented teaching, experience,

500
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:22,740
and equivalent to holding a North Carolina Early Child

501
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:23,440
Health credential.

502
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:30,000
This change supports providers who bring deep experience, even the lack of form more credentialing.

503
00:47:30,340 --> 00:47:35,480
It also includes reforms to building and facilities regulations helpful to home-based

504
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:41,820
providers, which we are always ignored, such as simplifying occupancy, classification in

505
00:47:41,820 --> 00:47:47,440
the line, residential childcare spaces with the residential code framework, by updating city

506
00:47:47,440 --> 00:48:06,000
to reflect the state levels reforms to Council would be with enable us to offer, I mean, other qualified providers to use the grant funding as designed for expanding services rather than being forced to return the money.

507
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:14,940
meet better local demand for affordable quality child care, support working families who depend on reliable home-based child care,

508
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:23,340
strengthening the local economy as a home child care providers, small business operators, reinvest in our community.

509
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:28,800
So I respectfully urge the Council to promptly adopt the local ordinance,

510
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:37,140
Revision that aligns with House Bill 412 session on 2025-36. This alignment is vital and enshrined

511
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:49,180
Continuity compliance and community support for our childcare providers like myself and I just want to say thank you for your dedicated services and considering this important request

512
00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:53,580
And I'll be glad to answer any questions share more about our program or

513
00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:59,100
to participate in any discussions to facilitate this update or anything dealing with childcare

514
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:07,640
in our community to help others because when Walker Reed was in office as well, we went

515
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,960
to get the city to change the ordinance from 8 to 12 as well, me and another child care provider.

516
00:49:13,380 --> 00:49:18,500
So this is my second time doing this and I hope Joe Gates and the zoning and all of them are not sick of me

517
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,880
because they probably are seeing a million and one emails to everything for me.

518
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,600
But this is something I'm always the voice for other child care providers in the community.

519
00:49:27,940 --> 00:49:34,060
Me and my husband, we always help, we always give back and order for us not to have to pay those funds back.

520
00:49:34,660 --> 00:49:36,160
And that's what we're asking for.

521
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:37,780
And also I have a wait list.

522
00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:41,580
I've had a wait list for years and it continues to grow.

523
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:46,440
So and people constantly check on it every month or every other month.

524
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,900
And so we need to help these families and get some of them out of the wait list and, you know,

525
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:53,520
for them to provide for the quality child care.

526
00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:54,580
Thank you.

527
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:54,760
Thank you, man.

528
00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:00,540
We don't normally have discussions and questions during public expression, but I will ask our city

529
00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:09,680
attorney because on our agenda package tonight, we do have a section that is addressing that

530
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:15,380
is by taking that language out, is that bringing us up to what she was speaking about, what

531
00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:17,640
the governor of his son, that's correct.

532
00:50:18,340 --> 00:50:21,460
So they should be good, as well.

533
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:24,300
If we approve it, they should be good up to you all,

534
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:25,100
but yes, that's the best way.

535
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,740
If we approve it, you have to do as approve it.

536
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,580
Thank you.

537
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,340
Thank you.

538
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,440
Thank you.

539
00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:31,580
Next

540
00:50:33,980 --> 00:50:36,980
up, we have our committee reports.

541
00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:39,880
The first up will be the Recreation Advisory Commission

542
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,040
Report and Councilwoman Barber.

543
00:50:43,260 --> 00:50:44,860
There's the chairperson of that committee,

544
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,800
and she will give us the report.

545
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Thank you, Mayor Franks.

546
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,540
We had a meeting last month, the recreation and rise

547
00:50:53,540 --> 00:50:57,800
recognition, met last month and...

548
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,320
Oh, I'm sorry.

549
00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:00,360
I'm sorry.

550
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:01,960
Councilwoman, I totally forgot.

551
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:04,200
We have two more people.

552
00:51:04,820 --> 00:51:06,580
Mr. Stubbs, Tony Stubbs.

553
00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:09,440
Thank you, Councilwoman Stubbs.

554
00:51:25,690 --> 00:51:26,730
Good evening, Council members.

555
00:51:28,270 --> 00:51:30,470
Thanks for not getting appreciate that.

556
00:51:31,970 --> 00:51:38,510
I just want to address the city council of pertainence of petition that I'm going for my neighborhood.

557
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:44,310
I'm getting some resistance, but it's very well-needed.

558
00:51:45,610 --> 00:51:50,690
So I'm going to talk about foot, but I'm going to kick that down.

559
00:51:51,110 --> 00:51:52,790
But I want to speak about that gas.

560
00:51:52,870 --> 00:52:00,200
I don't need to go whatever it is that transportation needs some work.

561
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:09,500
It seems that though the transportation is only based upon, I guess, city council hours

562
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:16,580
because I guess from six to seven people work beyond those hours and after seven

563
00:52:16,580 --> 00:52:20,340
clock there's no transportation nowhere for anyone.

564
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:36,260
So that needs to be rethought and just like, you know, the services for the land field, whatever it is, it's a place where you go dump the trash.

565
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,280
You've got those little cards that certain stores that people can purchase.

566
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:49,440
But over here, the transit area, that's the only place you can purchase, you know, one of those things for the guests and go.

567
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:56,320
That would should be the same implement, not only at the DSS, the health department.

568
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,060
Other locations work, it can be provided for other folks, because these, this gas

569
00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:06,760
don't even go service for those cars, it's only there Monday through Friday.

570
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,480
People who need access Monday through, excuse me, I like to curse.

571
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:18,800
Damn near, you know, seven days a week, but it's only restricted to Monday through Friday.

572
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:25,880
And there's a very minimal amount of riots here on the Saturday, you know, so that needs

573
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,820
to be reached out to.

574
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:33,000
And I want to speak about me helping the homeless to, and I appreciate you all honoring

575
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,400
the folks ahead of me.

576
00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:44,300
That's something that's very getting ready to come up front again with the, the, the, the,

577
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,800
the weather getting ready to go.

578
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:50,680
I could see a lot's being done about this green way the child getting ready to implement.

579
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:52,900
You spend a lot of money on that.

580
00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:57,680
But be an example, more so.

581
00:53:57,860 --> 00:54:01,520
Just like Charlotte is with the house.

582
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,820
I can't think of the name.

583
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Roof above.

584
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,460
Roof above.

585
00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:10,420
You know, being an example, I see there's a lot of construction here.

586
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:12,520
Now I'm a new resident here.

587
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:20,380
I might as well conform to a lot of ways here, but being an example, because there's a lot

588
00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:26,800
of construction being implemented, but there's no implement to help those who are less

589
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,320
housed.

590
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,380
I don't know what's being done when it gets cold.

591
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,740
I wouldn't hear what's driving trucks during all that time, but now I'm here, and I want

592
00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:42,200
to be a part of a change, so that's why I'm trying to adjust the committee about those

593
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:50,600
issues actually three, but thank you all for giving me the time and hopefully we can come

594
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,540
together to work at these issues because it's

595
00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:01,700
not a ratio issue, a ethnic issue, it's a community

596
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:05,860
humanity issue and that's what I just want to address.

597
00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:06,760
Thank you for your time.

598
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:08,520
Thank you, sir.

599
00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:13,240
Next up, Glenn Silver.

600
00:55:26,660 --> 00:55:27,520
Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

601
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,180
City Council.

602
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,180
On a positive note, first of all, my name is Glenn Silverman. I live in Ward 2,

603
00:55:36,460 --> 00:55:43,320
as many of you know, and I want to take a moment to bring something to the public attention

604
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:52,900
for this evening, first an item of a positive recognition. On Sunday, I was invited to

605
00:55:52,900 --> 00:56:10,080
I'm fortunate to participate in the NAACP branch for the number 5394 breaking bread event as well attended by many of the persons up on the dice this evening.

606
00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:18,940
The reason I wanted to bring this to the public attention tonight is that it was a prime example of a public and private partnership.

607
00:56:18,940 --> 00:56:27,980
And both the city got to utilize or provide some resources from police officer security

608
00:56:27,980 --> 00:56:29,280
and the use of the road of the civilian.

609
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:38,780
And the public are non-profit organization, the NAACP branch chapter that's here, hosted

610
00:56:38,780 --> 00:56:47,300
the event, as well attended, learned a lot, got to meet a lot of individuals, both in my community

611
00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:51,200
and others across the city of Gastonia, and Gaston County is a whole.

612
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,300
So I see that the President, Sean Bates, showed up tonight.

613
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,300
I didn't want to steal his thunder or anything, but since you didn't sign up to speak,

614
00:56:59,340 --> 00:57:01,360
I'll give you the thumbs up and props for all that.

615
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,600
That kind of good stuff.

616
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,780
The reason I thought I mentioned that is a partnership,

617
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,220
and the other reason that I came out tonight to speak,

618
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:12,960
is that as I got a copy of the agenda in my email,

619
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:21,160
is that I did not see anything in the agenda regarding the ongoing works that City Council

620
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,880
and subcommittees should be doing regarding the homeless.

621
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:33,880
As I talk to my friends and neighbors, all throughout not just Ward 2, but the city

622
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:34,860
is a whole,

623
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,240
the quest, one of the main concerns, other than of course, development, traffic

624
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,720
and safety issues is regarding homeless.

625
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:54,960
As many people I talked to, I have found and heard many different opinions from our residents.

626
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:04,040
What I ask of the City Council tonight is to re-engage and keep on the agenda.

627
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:14,980
Your work, working towards the partnerships, both public and private, to resolve and work towards a solution for the homeless issues that we have here in the city.

628
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,420
When I was in service, they taught us about leadership.

629
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:26,520
Leadership is about providing purpose, direction, and motivation.

630
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:32,140
I ask and charge you all here, and I know this is an election year,

631
00:58:32,860 --> 00:58:35,500
and we've got a couple of months until there may be some changes to the guard.

632
00:58:36,220 --> 00:58:39,920
But these items should not fall off of the agenda between now and then,

633
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:44,020
so that you can kick it to the curb and just let things go and be someone else's problem.

634
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,360
You all have been elected or selected to serve in these roles.

635
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,080
I ask you to fill your purpose.

636
00:58:53,520 --> 00:59:00,960
Keep your directions moving forward and motivate those around you by being an example for

637
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,580
all of our residents.

638
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:02,920
Thank you.

639
00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:04,520
Thank you, sir.

640
00:59:12,130 --> 00:59:12,770
Councillor Wong-Warp.

641
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:13,530
You're welcome.

642
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:14,010
Okay.

643
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:15,070
Let's try this again.

644
00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:16,050
Let's try it.

645
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:16,410
All right.

646
00:59:16,450 --> 00:59:18,230
Thank you.

647
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:22,330
As I stated, the Recreation Advisory Commission met last month.

648
00:59:22,930 --> 00:59:27,310
Didn't have a really a longer agenda, and we only had one action item.

649
00:59:28,550 --> 00:59:37,610
But I would like to share that I'm meeting open up discussing pick-up all, which we know

650
00:59:37,610 --> 00:59:45,470
it has become very popular here in our community, and we were fortunate to have guests at

651
00:59:45,470 --> 00:59:56,950
meeting last month, who are avid players of pickleball. So our staff is in the process of

652
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:59,850
Explore options for

653
01:00:01,910 --> 01:00:24,390
You know, creating a more consistent structure and procedure for all of our facilities as it relates to pickleball, so that no matter which facility you go to within a city, whoever is seeking to play pickleball, confying uniformity in what is being done, so just kind of wanted to throw that out more information about that is in your packet.

654
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:33,570
The one item that we did have for action and it was voting unanimously from the Commission

655
01:00:33,570 --> 01:00:41,290
7 to 0 was about our proposed fee schedule that was presented by staff and again, there

656
01:00:41,290 --> 01:00:47,770
are multiple pages in your packet which outlines the fee schedule so we're proposing going

657
01:00:47,770 --> 01:00:53,230
from a 14-page document to a four-page document

658
01:00:53,230 --> 01:00:56,210
not consolidating those fees.

659
01:00:57,930 --> 01:01:02,730
And in your packet, you'll find that we're looking at changing

660
01:01:02,730 --> 01:01:05,930
or simplifying the athletic fees, standard standard.

661
01:01:07,090 --> 01:01:10,030
Making the shelter interface more standard

662
01:01:10,030 --> 01:01:14,530
as well as the hours, all the inclusive fees

663
01:01:14,530 --> 01:01:21,810
facilities as well as field rentals and adding walk e-read third part into the

664
01:01:21,810 --> 01:01:32,210
free schedule. And I will say since the Irwin Center pull opened last year or

665
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:41,050
20 that was 2023. So that's been two years since open. I've received a lot of feedback

666
01:01:41,050 --> 01:01:47,090
and I'm sure some of you all have, too, as relates to the fees to get into the pool.

667
01:01:48,670 --> 01:02:00,110
So naturally, when Irma Center pool reopened, the same format for Lumberger pool was implemented

668
01:02:00,110 --> 01:02:06,440
for Irma, which is two sessions, which about three hours of peace, and the cost of $4 per

669
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:16,740
and that's because Lombur is a highly used pool and people are just accustomed to going to that pool.

670
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,180
So the same format was implemented for early.

671
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:31,760
So the committee has been discussing really for two years about how we can alleviate the burden of a lot of the parents and the children,

672
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:38,860
As well as volunteers and people hanging around the pool, you know, kids are constantly asking for money to get into the pool.

673
01:02:39,460 --> 01:02:44,800
So what was decided by the commission was to create an all day pass.

674
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:50,080
And I understand it's, you know, it's not, it's a $2 difference.

675
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:56,100
But $2 is better than, you know, nothing.

676
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:59,040
And again, it's less than $8.

677
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,480
So for child, we'd like to stay in the pool all day,

678
01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:08,440
it's $6 a six-dollar pass versus coming out after paying

679
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,380
for what I was going back to in the pay for it.

680
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,020
So again, and that's because Earl Pool is not as highly

681
01:03:15,020 --> 01:03:18,520
utilized, so they have the capacity to do that compared

682
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,260
to Lomburker.

683
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,140
So that's the only thing that I wanted to point out

684
01:03:23,140 --> 01:03:24,820
that was decided by the Commission.

685
01:03:25,700 --> 01:03:27,400
And hopefully you all have had an opportunity.

686
01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:31,980
And if you have any questions, we do have our staff here

687
01:03:31,980 --> 01:03:34,720
that can answer any questions that you may have

688
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,760
about the peace schedule.

689
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,320
Councilor Warren will jump.

690
01:03:41,460 --> 01:03:42,360
Two more questions.

691
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,880
Yeah, we got questions.

692
01:03:44,980 --> 01:03:47,240
In the last two years, and I'm going to say,

693
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:52,340
you say, in since 2023, what has been the attendance

694
01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:59,820
at the pool, trying to and after we implement it, you know, before and before, I'm sure

695
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,840
the occupancy, you know, to the things that they have.

696
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,700
Well, actually, and of course, they can give the most specific numbers, because that's

697
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:07,900
something that we were interested.

698
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:15,900
So we do know that it is, is we see the more utilization prior to the old, but it's just still

699
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:18,500
not at the same level as lab program.

700
01:04:20,180 --> 01:04:23,760
Locker will tell all those sessions.

701
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,800
Irwin is fortunately at the time.

702
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,940
We typically can have 50 to 100 kids daily.

703
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,400
Irwin, whereas we have a lot more at Locker.

704
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,920
We sell out the sessions at Locker.

705
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:43,570
Two dollar reduction.

706
01:04:44,370 --> 01:04:46,730
Because I'm just saying, I'm looking for both sides.

707
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:47,770
This is our economics.

708
01:04:48,570 --> 01:04:48,690
Really.

709
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:55,690
It's a portability or a lot of the kids and I know that we say they just want to hang out

710
01:04:55,690 --> 01:05:01,370
But if you really look at, I wonder what they would be hanging out at the pool of the band's streets.

711
01:05:01,690 --> 01:05:02,470
So yes, $2,

712
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,720
how about the hours where if you, how would you look to see $4 for the whole day?

713
01:05:10,780 --> 01:05:14,400
I mean, because we think $2, that's not a lot, but it is.

714
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,240
It really is.

715
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,520
I can tell you this, things right now that it looks like it's only yours, they can

716
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,320
on the court.

717
01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:24,960
And I know we go on into the winner, but we think it at least correctly, really, about

718
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:25,920
the next summer.

719
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:34,090
I mean, we're not making a lot of money on kids when they're doing this summer, but we're

720
01:05:34,090 --> 01:05:39,750
there for us to have a consistent base at four dollars, they're blind, they're an

721
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:43,070
editor when I don't think it's on her.

722
01:05:43,790 --> 01:05:52,950
I think that the reason it's in there is because of the two sessions and two different prices so that multiple kids can swim.

723
01:05:53,850 --> 01:05:58,870
And since if we ever have, if we ever reach capacity, that's why this is in here.

724
01:05:59,510 --> 01:06:04,050
Now, it's up for you to decide if you want to change our fees.

725
01:06:04,050 --> 01:06:12,850
But that's why we have a break in price for all day at Irwin.

726
01:06:13,390 --> 01:06:15,810
No, I trust me, I get it.

727
01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:21,450
And I'm just saying, you know, we can say that, oh, my God, it's for Israel, it's six dollars.

728
01:06:21,810 --> 01:06:26,670
The six dollars for a parent, it's on the baby level, the system, it has three kids.

729
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:30,310
We're talking about $18 in a day.

730
01:06:30,310 --> 01:06:35,390
And literally, I remember going to the food that's not that they love going to every day.

731
01:06:35,710 --> 01:06:38,430
I'm just looking at this city, it's not going to go broke.

732
01:06:39,050 --> 01:06:42,490
After a lot of the other resources that somebody else has mentioned it.

733
01:06:42,910 --> 01:06:47,370
For us to say, okay, I pass for $4 and I know you've got to be consistent.

734
01:06:47,630 --> 01:06:50,050
Whatever you do over here, you have to do over there.

735
01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:53,490
All I'm saying is that, why don't we do $4?

736
01:06:54,850 --> 01:06:57,410
Because even with us, they don't take cash, right?

737
01:06:57,410 --> 01:07:04,490
I think that they, that wasn't issued a first year, but they did come up with a solution

738
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:06,090
to be able to accept.

739
01:07:06,450 --> 01:07:07,470
So you do exist.

740
01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:12,790
We have a method to accept cash, yes.

741
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:17,390
I would suggest $4 instead of $6.

742
01:07:17,790 --> 01:07:23,350
A lot of the payments that really utilize, that they have more than one or two kids.

743
01:07:24,070 --> 01:07:27,030
And I'm just looking at it from an economic standpoint.

744
01:07:27,370 --> 01:07:31,890
We talk about a lot of people that I'm just saying,

745
01:07:32,090 --> 01:07:33,730
it is all about an economic standpoint.

746
01:07:34,110 --> 01:07:37,730
And I think that we help, it's not going to break the city

747
01:07:37,730 --> 01:07:42,730
for us to lower it to $4, especially looking at some of the expenditures

748
01:07:42,730 --> 01:07:44,330
that we pay at the leisure.

749
01:07:45,090 --> 01:07:47,690
And I'm just saying 18 million on the trail,

750
01:07:47,870 --> 01:07:48,970
they're proud of the mountain.

751
01:07:49,790 --> 01:08:05,270
We talked about keys and we talked about the summer and we'd be in proactive, I'm saying economically, I've had a lot of people at my board that you say $6 and it may not sound like a lot, but it is because they have more than two and three keys.

752
01:08:06,110 --> 01:08:16,910
I think that we can handle $4 being the rate at Labyrinth or just be consistent, but I would ask for it to be reduced to four.

753
01:08:17,870 --> 01:08:23,910
Well, I think the, and I, I hear it, you know, what you're saying. I think the issue is,

754
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:31,970
you want about fairness between my burger and Irwin. So making a difference for Irwin,

755
01:08:33,410 --> 01:08:38,670
and that's, you know, we could have, we had a lengthy discussion about this.

756
01:08:38,770 --> 01:08:41,950
And so that's when we came up, the committee came up with the $6.

757
01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:52,950
But again, I know you mentioned about because we couldn't, right, we wouldn't be able to do a $4 situation at Lumber because, again,

758
01:08:53,470 --> 01:09:00,610
then that would mean there would be children and families who would not be able to enjoy the pool because if you pay for it all at the beginning,

759
01:09:01,010 --> 01:09:05,190
they're going to stay in the whole time.

760
01:09:05,690 --> 01:09:09,790
So it doesn't allow for a new group of people to be able to get in.

761
01:09:09,790 --> 01:09:17,970
So you're definitely going to, you know, at Lombard, you're going to even pretty much have that in place

762
01:09:17,970 --> 01:09:22,010
because it's going to max out two sessions for dollars each.

763
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:25,810
Right. And I'm looking at kids, but it's not going to get this one.

764
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:31,970
So I would rather max out, let kids, for dollars all up, we can do it.

765
01:09:31,970 --> 01:09:36,810
But we have a lot of kids that's not even going to get to because of that too long.

766
01:09:37,210 --> 01:09:38,790
That's all I'm saying is that.

767
01:09:39,310 --> 01:09:43,990
I'm not questioning that, I'm just hungry, I'm making sure I'm under sugar, I don't.

768
01:09:44,170 --> 01:09:46,210
I can still do a half day before dollars.

769
01:09:46,770 --> 01:09:49,010
They can do a half day before dollars.

770
01:09:50,030 --> 01:09:53,510
We're giving them the opportunity to play two more dollars to stay done.

771
01:09:53,610 --> 01:09:54,090
Oh, day.

772
01:09:54,210 --> 01:09:54,970
To stay in the whole day.

773
01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:56,230
They still afford our price.

774
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:56,770
Yes.

775
01:09:57,190 --> 01:09:58,310
That's what I want to make.

776
01:09:58,610 --> 01:09:59,110
Make sure I understand.

777
01:09:59,530 --> 01:10:00,930
Yeah, I can still afford ours.

778
01:10:01,030 --> 01:10:02,650
Councilman, Consentious.

779
01:10:05,130 --> 01:10:07,670
I have another question on not the pool, really.

780
01:10:07,850 --> 01:10:08,770
If you want to stay on the pool.

781
01:10:08,770 --> 01:10:15,150
Well, if I'm hearing you correctly, Councilwoman is that they're saving $2.

782
01:10:16,530 --> 01:10:24,550
Because if they go, and it's kind of a, even at Irwin is the same as Lomburger.

783
01:10:26,530 --> 01:10:33,590
Irwin is underutilized, so this could be more utilization for them.

784
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:44,810
But if line burger is over-utilized, if we don't do an increase, it's going to keep kids from going,

785
01:10:45,050 --> 01:10:51,650
because like you said, if they pay $4 without the $2 increase, then that child that hits their,

786
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:54,610
I'm just gonna say eight o'clock in the morning, I don't know what time it up.

787
01:10:55,410 --> 01:11:01,070
But at eight o'clock in the morning, they can stay there literally all day for four bucks.

788
01:11:01,070 --> 01:11:10,530
And then the $2 is just going to kind of differentiate whether that parent wants their child staying there half a day or for all day.

789
01:11:11,210 --> 01:11:12,990
I'm going to add to it.

790
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:15,950
I think that we looking at this is just one dimensional.

791
01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:27,510
But when we look at youth violence prevention, let me tell you, these kids that are at Irwin or at Lion Burger,

792
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:35,330
I would rather for all of them to stay there and let's max out than I don't mind as the devil's workshop for them to be in the community.

793
01:11:35,710 --> 01:11:37,290
It's a two-fold thing.

794
01:11:37,630 --> 01:11:43,270
It is this is an opportunity for kids to come and they fellowship and they would day friends.

795
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:48,830
And I'm looking at it. The money, honestly, is not going to break the city.

796
01:11:48,830 --> 01:11:55,650
So, if we have a chance to take more kids off the street and allow them, I'm just saying

797
01:11:55,650 --> 01:11:58,550
financially, and I know we're looking at both.

798
01:11:59,070 --> 01:12:05,670
I will still wrap up max out that kids, you realize line burger, and more kids get to

799
01:12:05,670 --> 01:12:12,330
be over here at Irwin Center, it's because we've had influx in some crime, and I just

800
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:12,870
look at it.

801
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:17,230
It's really crime prevention as well, okay?

802
01:12:18,090 --> 01:12:26,230
So, I'm just saying, let's not look at it as just one way, it's economics and it has to do with juvenile crime.

803
01:12:27,170 --> 01:12:33,050
If you know where they are and they have in fun and we can reduce it and less max out, kids doing something positive,

804
01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:35,490
let's do it because it's not going to break.

805
01:12:35,870 --> 01:12:35,970
Yes.

806
01:12:36,090 --> 01:12:41,530
I don't think anyone, I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

807
01:12:41,530 --> 01:12:44,290
And clearly understand it exactly where you're coming from.

808
01:12:44,330 --> 01:12:52,990
I think it was just about the fairness, because you have to consider both pools, and, again,

809
01:12:53,350 --> 01:13:01,090
it is a little cheaper, and I believe that was basically the rationale of the committee.

810
01:13:01,290 --> 01:13:08,630
They're looking at both pools and again saying, okay, because we don't have those complaints

811
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:12,890
with live where we don't have people complaining that, okay, they get out after paying

812
01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:15,090
a $4, didn't they got the pay for lots to get back?

813
01:13:15,090 --> 01:13:19,010
They don't have those issues because both sessions are so down.

814
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:23,730
But at Earlwyn, there are children who look like an opportunity to stay all day.

815
01:13:24,450 --> 01:13:28,710
So, as opposed to them having the pay, $4 to get back in, they're only having to get the

816
01:13:28,710 --> 01:13:32,890
$2 or to pay the $6 to be able to stay in all day.

817
01:13:32,890 --> 01:13:39,690
I think it was just the committee looking at both parks, both pools, both situations, and deciding

818
01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:44,710
what's fair, you know, overall for both.

819
01:13:45,410 --> 01:13:48,830
And I get it, and I'm just looking at it, it's not affordable.

820
01:13:49,570 --> 01:13:57,830
I'm just going to say it, because some parents, and I know we're saying it was only $2, let me tell you

821
01:13:57,830 --> 01:14:05,010
dollars go a long way. And I'm just saying that $4 across the board, everybody can max out

822
01:14:05,010 --> 01:14:11,530
and guess what some more children are going to be able to stay away from the Delva's workshop.

823
01:14:12,610 --> 01:14:17,810
Staying out, luxury is pooled that we have over there in the splash park and it's maxed out

824
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:24,590
on both ends. But we're really talking about just money that to be honest with you, we ain't going

825
01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:29,310
Yes, based on all of the money that we spend in, and I know I'm being stuck in.

826
01:14:29,950 --> 01:14:35,930
But I would rather invest in some children, make it $4 over here and $4 over there, and

827
01:14:35,930 --> 01:14:40,230
let kids just have a wonderful summer, because there's a lot of people that's not going

828
01:14:40,230 --> 01:14:42,310
to be able to afford that extra, too.

829
01:14:43,290 --> 01:14:46,270
Okay, we're going to move on, I'm going to ask you a question.

830
01:14:46,570 --> 01:14:51,990
Councilman, excuse me, just one suggestion, because I'm looking at the last page that has everything

831
01:14:53,050 --> 01:14:59,890
summarized. The session for the pool is two and a half hours correct. Yes. Is it possible? Just

832
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,980
I include that in this, because this is what's going to be posted on the website or that way it's clear, where it just is swimming pools,

833
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,180
Lomburga Park and Irwin Center, but says the first session, whether there's no detail.

834
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,900
We can put the session tops.

835
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:25,500
And then I just wanted to say thank you very much for putting this kind of cleaning it up, condensing it, because before it was pages and pages and pages,

836
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:31,520
And I know you made a lot of comparisons to some of the other municipalities, and it seems to match up.

837
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:36,020
So this helps a lot because, you know, as a parent, you want to sound up, you look here.

838
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:37,560
Okay, boom, this is what it's going to cost.

839
01:15:38,180 --> 01:15:39,900
So that helps tremendously.

840
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:41,500
I do have one question.

841
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,760
Can you just quickly, in a minute, just explain the difference.

842
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,440
And I get the individual registration.

843
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,300
You have a sound that you want to play to evolve.

844
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,320
This is a price city, non city.

845
01:15:52,320 --> 01:16:06,440
Can you explain the team part of it, is it me as a coach getting 10 kids together that are amazing at baseball and bringing them to Gastonia and plan and paying that fee or just explain that part of it?

846
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,640
I'm a let Ryan step up and talk about that real quick.

847
01:16:12,170 --> 01:16:18,350
So, generally we don't allow, we don't have open leeks, but there are occasions in which we do.

848
01:16:18,350 --> 01:16:23,990
And so this fee schedule is designed to be able to cover that should we run into a scenario where we have that.

849
01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:34,450
But the team registration would be a situation, for example, our 13 to 18-year-old basketball age divisions are open leagues in which people are allowed to come together.

850
01:16:34,890 --> 01:16:38,710
Now, in our lower leagues, we do a draft to try to keep teams even and play equitable.

851
01:16:39,010 --> 01:16:41,570
But should we run into that event, this fee schedule covers that?

852
01:16:41,570 --> 01:16:41,970
Okay.

853
01:16:42,610 --> 01:16:45,050
So you just put it in your just in case.

854
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:46,510
You got to correct.

855
01:16:47,130 --> 01:16:48,750
Thank you.

856
01:16:48,910 --> 01:16:54,250
Now I have a question that just, when council would get CBS to ask, because I mean,

857
01:16:54,850 --> 01:17:01,130
this is over 50 years ago, and they in myself, because we used to write our bikes to line

858
01:17:01,130 --> 01:17:06,550
burner from South Gaston, so the full is only up to two and a half hours in the morning

859
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:08,250
and two and a half hours in the afternoon.

860
01:17:09,410 --> 01:17:09,930
That's right.

861
01:17:09,930 --> 01:17:15,750
we have we have daycare before we open and then we have a session and then we have another

862
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:20,530
session and then you can rent it after hours for a party.

863
01:17:20,750 --> 01:17:25,870
So when you say daycare, that's for citizens.

864
01:17:26,810 --> 01:17:30,150
We open it up for different daycare throughout the city.

865
01:17:30,210 --> 01:17:30,810
Oh, daycare.

866
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:31,610
Daycare.

867
01:17:31,930 --> 01:17:31,950
Daycare.

868
01:17:32,490 --> 01:17:38,570
That's just like the boys and girls club, they utilize early on pools so they have their

869
01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:43,050
Okay, so we're not utilizing it just five hours a day.

870
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:45,290
It's broke out.

871
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:45,590
Okay.

872
01:17:46,610 --> 01:17:47,610
Thank you.

873
01:17:47,650 --> 01:17:49,390
I got a question to add to that.

874
01:17:49,770 --> 01:17:53,310
So when the day cares are there, no one but kids can come.

875
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:58,690
No, because in the morning we do lessons with the day care.

876
01:17:59,090 --> 01:18:02,270
So we're teaching them how to swim safety.

877
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:04,970
So what time is that?

878
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:07,530
I think that starts at 10.

879
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:19,820
So, I'm just thinking, I'm going to be honest with you, I had no idea until Councilman

880
01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:25,280
Soup said it, but you got kids right and walking, I want to get there, or 30 minutes

881
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:29,760
to get there, and they paying for dollars for two and a half, I mean, I just can't believe

882
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:35,960
that it's only two and a half hours, I mean, because you know, I'm just saying, I'm way

883
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:42,260
back in the day. And you know, kids, they all, they long. But all I'm saying is that

884
01:18:42,260 --> 01:18:48,160
they cares operate earlier. Why punish your regular citizens? Let the day care since

885
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:53,220
their kids get there early to get there a little early at nine o'clock. Maybe to do some lessons

886
01:18:53,220 --> 01:19:00,580
but let regular children who are out of school get more time. Because they've walking a distance

887
01:19:00,580 --> 01:19:08,800
to ride and bikes and for somebody to even pay $4 for $2.5, I was, that don't even, one of

888
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:17,420
the challenges and, you know, we could remember some years ago, well, and this has been

889
01:19:17,420 --> 01:19:21,020
recent, one of the challenges is a lifeguard.

890
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:27,100
So we struggle with getting lifeguards to cover the pools.

891
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:34,380
So that's another issue when you're talking about extending time, we already struggle to get

892
01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:39,820
light-garced to cover the times that we are open for both, for both clues.

893
01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:48,760
So, on this issue of the problems, I want to take a little brief, the action item for this

894
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:54,180
committee report is that we adopt the Steve Schedule as proposed.

895
01:19:54,180 --> 01:20:02,960
proposed yes and that would include because in the in the in the fee schedule it still shows

896
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:09,860
or reflects the old policy for Irwin and what we're proposing or what the committee is putting

897
01:20:09,860 --> 01:20:19,240
forth is as opposed to $4 per session it would be $4 you know for the first step but if a child chooses

898
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,600
or if someone chooses to be there all day is a six dollar pass.

899
01:20:26,740 --> 01:20:27,920
That's what's being proposed.

900
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,480
And the way I look at that is they're saving two dollars.

901
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:37,260
Because if they wanted to do both sessions, the way it has been.

902
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,860
I mean, we can discuss this till the cows come home.

903
01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:47,700
At this point, would you like to make this in a formable motion?

904
01:20:47,700 --> 01:21:01,120
Sure, so I move that we approve the new fee schedule that's been presented, which includes

905
01:21:01,860 --> 01:21:09,300
with the change of as opposed to two for dollar sessions for Earl when we have a for

906
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:15,120
dollar session or a choice of a six dollar all day passed, that's what's been brought forth from the committee.

907
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,660
But that's in conjunction with everything else that's in all of the time.

908
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,940
The entire, yes, the entire fee schedule.

909
01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:23,640
Oh, no.

910
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:25,820
We have a lot of questions, hang on, hang on.

911
01:21:26,140 --> 01:21:29,760
We have a motion to have a second that we'll have some discussion.

912
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,100
And this is effective January 1st, 26.

913
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:38,960
Now, would you have a problem, Councilwoman, in the recreation committee, that if we

914
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,140
sought some contributions from local businesses and churches,

915
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:45,480
towards, you know, like some scholarships.

916
01:21:45,860 --> 01:21:47,660
Well, that's what's been done in the past,

917
01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:52,040
that Irwin has so that Neil helped alleviate for the kids

918
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,260
who can afford it.

919
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,620
There'll be some money there that can help.

920
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,160
That has been done in the past.

921
01:21:57,620 --> 01:21:58,180
Thank you.

922
01:21:58,380 --> 01:22:01,380
So, in the other discussion, my discussion is,

923
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:06,100
so there is something different at Irwin than it is at

924
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:09,060
So Lambert was not going off for that $2.

925
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:11,000
No.

926
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:11,540
No.

927
01:22:11,540 --> 01:22:13,280
Okay, so my point exactly.

928
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,480
It's not going to be a principle.

929
01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:17,320
So there, we'll, that's not consistency.

930
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:18,940
Correct.

931
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,000
We're not doing business assistance.

932
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,340
It's going to be $4 for both sessions.

933
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,000
Or we can drop it.

934
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:27,820
That's all I'm saying.

935
01:22:27,860 --> 01:22:29,680
This is just, this comes from the committee.

936
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:30,080
Right.

937
01:22:30,100 --> 01:22:30,880
I know I understand.

938
01:22:31,340 --> 01:22:34,480
I would rather for the committee because what we're saying

939
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:44,680
that I asked for last year, they said no, whatever you do over at Lamberga, you got to do over at Earl Wilson, but that's not what we, that's not this motion.

940
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:50,760
Well, that's because again, more discussion has come forth, this was presented.

941
01:22:52,500 --> 01:23:03,660
I received feedback again this year, presented that feedback in the meeting, and this was the conversation that the committee had and this is what the committee recommended.

942
01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:11,700
a six dollar pass as opposed to requiring people to pay another $4.

943
01:23:12,020 --> 01:23:14,640
And the kids at Earl were going to save two bucks.

944
01:23:15,020 --> 01:23:16,160
We're going to stay there all the time.

945
01:23:16,260 --> 01:23:18,740
Instead of paying eight, they're going to be paying six.

946
01:23:18,980 --> 01:23:24,300
But I'm just saying, we save that so they're going to save two.

947
01:23:24,460 --> 01:23:26,520
I'm talking about folks that cannot afford.

948
01:23:27,060 --> 01:23:30,800
So if we're not going to be consistent with both of them,

949
01:23:30,980 --> 01:23:33,000
why don't we just make it four dollars at Earl?

950
01:23:36,980 --> 01:23:44,040
We can continue to discuss, we're all, we're all coming back to the same thing.

951
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:49,080
Let me clarify something with our Parks and Rec director and Councilman Barker.

952
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:56,180
So in this thing, the motion that you just made, we're keeping it at $4 per session at Lumber.

953
01:23:56,180 --> 01:24:02,840
And we need to do that because if we did it for $6, we know that that would increase in children

954
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:11,400
would not be having access to line burger because they would say, oh, I can stay all day for $6 instead of $8.

955
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:24,060
And by doing it for $6 for all day at Irwin Center that gives us the opportunity to utilize and increase the participation at Irwin Center.

956
01:24:24,060 --> 01:24:31,460
And then there's also for the kids who do not have money, there is a system in place to help those with that $2.

957
01:24:35,540 --> 01:24:35,620
Okay.

958
01:24:36,140 --> 01:24:41,860
I think we opened up a can of worms because if I'm a parent and I take my kids over there,

959
01:24:42,220 --> 01:24:46,760
I'm asking for my child to stay over here for $6 because we're not being consistent.

960
01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:51,460
And that right there is so important. I'm telling you.

961
01:24:51,460 --> 01:24:56,460
within, then, no, I'm just going to have to stay as it is.

962
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,420
Yeah, I would stay as it is.

963
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:03,560
No, but at least they can, you take it back to your committee and just say, if we're

964
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:09,720
not going to be consistent, it's easy for us just to say, those kids over here can afford,

965
01:25:09,860 --> 01:25:11,940
let it be $4 all day long.

966
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,220
And you know what, let's keep the same thing over here at Lambergapark.

967
01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:20,960
But as people listening to us, you've got to believe some parents going to come over

968
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:27,280
to Lambert Gapark and say hi on whatever y'all doing over there y'all got to do it here. So we set

969
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:35,180
my sales up again this was discussion from the committee and this is what they're proposing.

970
01:25:35,860 --> 01:25:40,780
No no I understand that but I'm saying don't you think we set my sales up if we're not

971
01:25:40,780 --> 01:25:46,960
going to be consistent on whatever we do over here we must do over here we set my sales up for

972
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,560
You know some parents are going to challenge that.

973
01:25:49,980 --> 01:25:51,600
And they're going to be, because it's been challenged

974
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,540
because people at Irwin is already been challenged

975
01:25:56,540 --> 01:25:58,400
when it's been challenged in a different way.

976
01:25:58,740 --> 01:26:04,520
Because you have people at Irwin that are patrons of Irwin

977
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:09,660
that are complaining about paying $4 for each session.

978
01:26:10,300 --> 01:26:13,290
So because of those complaints, and because we

979
01:26:13,290 --> 01:26:19,050
taking the committee was taken into consideration that there are children who may not be able

980
01:26:19,050 --> 01:26:27,770
to afford $8. The discussion and the compromise was $6. They can choose, they can still

981
01:26:27,770 --> 01:26:34,070
do $4. For one session, or they could choose to do all day past $4.6.

982
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,160
And that way, there's

983
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:59,220
some it up, but just to make sure so the people that are listening to us and the parents that are out there, there is a mechanism to help alleviate the cost, correct.

984
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,780
Okay, so that's, I mean, I'll donate a couple of months.

985
01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:05,440
And that's what has happened in the past.

986
01:27:06,380 --> 01:27:07,520
There's a, there's a, there's a problem.

987
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:12,500
No, Irwin, Irwin Center, community members have stepped up and contributed.

988
01:27:12,940 --> 01:27:15,020
Because we don't have a problem at Irwin.

989
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:15,980
I mean, I've never heard of it.

990
01:27:15,980 --> 01:27:19,120
I mean, I'm, yeah, I've never heard of it.

991
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,440
So we have a call to question.

992
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:21,720
We have a motion on the floor.

993
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,640
We have a second, all those in favor of the opposed.

994
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,380
No amendments to it, all those in favor.

995
01:27:30,740 --> 01:27:31,740
All those opposed.

996
01:27:34,510 --> 01:27:34,970
Moving on.

997
01:27:36,250 --> 01:27:39,010
Okay, thank you, Mayor Franks.

998
01:27:39,010 --> 01:27:43,310
And then, of course, I left item just was announcements from

999
01:27:43,310 --> 01:27:47,550
Christine about upcoming events, and which was just presented

1000
01:27:47,550 --> 01:27:50,830
for information, only in that concludes my report.

1001
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:51,850
Thank you, ma'am.

1002
01:27:51,950 --> 01:27:54,690
Next up, we'll have the public safety committee report,

1003
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:56,190
and that'll be Councilor Galifon.

1004
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:59,290
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, appreciate that.

1005
01:28:00,010 --> 01:28:02,290
We had several items that came up.

1006
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:07,570
And one of the items that we did vote on was for the proposed ordinance

1007
01:28:07,570 --> 01:28:14,650
to amend the sidewalk dining standards to clarify the rights of committees and the public

1008
01:28:14,650 --> 01:28:21,650
inside-wall dining during operation hours and the committee field of some questions at

1009
01:28:21,650 --> 01:28:21,970
all.

1010
01:28:22,170 --> 01:28:25,590
If you'd like to see the ordinance, it is on page 4.

1011
01:28:28,270 --> 01:28:32,290
So it is there for you to read.

1012
01:28:33,170 --> 01:28:39,850
I like to make a motion that we accept the ordinance that was presented by our lawyer, Erx.

1013
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:49,430
And we have a motion, can we have a second, have a second about councilwoman's step, and we'll have the discussion.

1014
01:28:53,760 --> 01:29:00,000
The describe with this is like a new downtown and you walk in and I'm just saying, can you make this come a lot?

1015
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:01,760
Can you describe what it is?

1016
01:29:03,530 --> 01:29:04,230
Would you like to do it?

1017
01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:14,490
So there was uncertainty about who has the right to enforce restrictions to who can be in a privately permanent dining area on city property.

1018
01:29:14,490 --> 01:29:21,790
kind of found to a gray area where people didn't know if the restaurant couldn't force, who could be there or the city itself had to do that.

1019
01:29:21,890 --> 01:29:29,610
So this clarifies that when a restaurant has a permanent outdoor dining area, they can, while they are open and using the space.

1020
01:29:30,090 --> 01:29:36,790
Restrict you can be there based on, usually where this came up was, based on people's behavior.

1021
01:29:37,170 --> 01:29:40,710
Someone's behaving in a disruptive fashion they can be asked to leave.

1022
01:29:41,730 --> 01:29:48,270
Are they going to have their, what do you call it, the stance, the distance, the extensions there?

1023
01:29:49,070 --> 01:29:53,570
I think Councilman Kasupius asked about that, but we did not get into that as a change in this ordinance.

1024
01:29:58,050 --> 01:29:59,970
Well, I-

1025
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,840
I mean, they wouldn't have to have stances because we have a downtown drinking district, correct?

1026
01:30:11,780 --> 01:30:22,340
As long as the bar is participating in the downtown drinking district, I probably need to be a little more politically correct, but downtown drinking district.

1027
01:30:23,500 --> 01:30:32,360
social district, they can, as long as they have the clear club clear cup and the sticker

1028
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:39,420
on it, they can walk anywhere, but if they don't participate, wouldn't they have to have the

1029
01:30:39,420 --> 01:30:40,260
stanchions?

1030
01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:44,760
We need to look into that, because since we weren't proposing to add anything regarding

1031
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,700
separations between that or downing area, if we didn't look at that as an issue for this

1032
01:30:49,700 --> 01:30:53,400
But that's just we can certainly find out the answer to that question.

1033
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:59,120
Because I mean I know by the liquor laws if you're going to expand past your footprint

1034
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,400
you have to do a diagram and show it in all that.

1035
01:31:04,540 --> 01:31:11,180
But do we have any restaurant slash bars downtown that aren't part of the social distance?

1036
01:31:14,540 --> 01:31:16,200
It's Peter Will and who else.

1037
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:18,620
I think Peter Will's in it.

1038
01:31:18,860 --> 01:31:19,820
I think the science started.

1039
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,220
Peter Will is outside of it.

1040
01:31:22,340 --> 01:31:23,640
Well, no, it goes all the way to the ballpark.

1041
01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:25,820
But they still decide if they want to participate,

1042
01:31:26,180 --> 01:31:27,540
and some of them decided not to participate.

1043
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,260
So why is the social district, some of the restaurants in water

1044
01:31:33,260 --> 01:31:34,800
did not choose to participate?

1045
01:31:35,540 --> 01:31:38,660
You don't automatically, you have to, like,

1046
01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:40,720
One of the people in the post-media.

1047
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:41,080
Exactly.

1048
01:31:41,460 --> 01:31:45,700
Well, I was going to say, if they're not in that social district

1049
01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:49,520
conglomerate, then they should have to have

1050
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,080
stanchions in a perimeter and all.

1051
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,120
Or an ABC law unless it's changed.

1052
01:31:54,340 --> 01:31:56,260
And that's why we wouldn't put it in our ordinances,

1053
01:31:56,460 --> 01:31:58,180
because it'd be depletive of something that's already

1054
01:31:58,180 --> 01:32:01,000
required by ABC law, but that's correct.

1055
01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:02,720
And so they have to sign their building

1056
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,400
if they're going to participate in the social district

1057
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,900
and do a number of other things, so not all of them do.

1058
01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:17,720
But I'm going to say this came to my attention from two local business, and what we're talking about was not even a part of the conversation.

1059
01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:19,580
And nothing to do with alcohol.

1060
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,780
It had something to do with homeless people, okay?

1061
01:32:24,660 --> 01:32:26,780
And it had nothing to do with drinking.

1062
01:32:26,780 --> 01:32:29,620
It was some people that were on

1063
01:32:29,620 --> 01:32:33,420
seeing sidewalk property legally.

1064
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,700
And they were standing in front of the building.

1065
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:43,760
It was more like they were being seen as maybe a threat.

1066
01:32:44,500 --> 01:32:47,000
So the business on recall the police,

1067
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,720
but when the police got there, the police told them,

1068
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,520
look, this is city sidewalk.

1069
01:32:52,820 --> 01:32:55,200
They are allowed to be on city sidewalk.

1070
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,080
This is how this came to us.

1071
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:04,680
Yeah, but this is just for the restaurants that are going to be dining outside and giving

1072
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:10,040
them credence on what needs to be done, because you don't want somebody just walking

1073
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:15,220
up to the area that you're going to be eating and just standing there staring at you and

1074
01:33:15,220 --> 01:33:16,140
your food.

1075
01:33:16,420 --> 01:33:17,920
I don't think that's very rude.

1076
01:33:18,500 --> 01:33:24,280
I mean, I think that's why this is in play, but I think most cities that haven't

1077
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,440
this ordinance, do that type of thing.

1078
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,060
We don't have it right now.

1079
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,620
I haven't seen any outdoor dining so far.

1080
01:33:31,660 --> 01:33:35,780
No, where I know where this is, and I would suggest,

1081
01:33:36,060 --> 01:33:38,400
they, I would say that they would need those sources,

1082
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,680
because to say that you got all of this,

1083
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,100
you cross and over, really into people's right

1084
01:33:46,100 --> 01:33:48,280
to just be walking on the sidewalk.

1085
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,020
Because this right here is very vague.

1086
01:33:52,020 --> 01:33:57,480
But if they're going to have alcohol, like the mayor would say, they're going to have to have

1087
01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:01,320
staunches, like you're saying, because the ABC law comes in the play.

1088
01:34:01,580 --> 01:34:02,940
No, they don't.

1089
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:08,200
And I'm telling you, the two businesses that I'm talking about, they have ABC permits.

1090
01:34:09,060 --> 01:34:10,980
And nobody has no staunches out there.

1091
01:34:11,260 --> 01:34:11,580
Nobody.

1092
01:34:12,500 --> 01:34:15,680
Well, let me, let me rephrase a question to the attorney, man.

1093
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:22,860
I don't know if any restaurant downtown that has outside the dining right now.

1094
01:34:22,860 --> 01:34:23,680
There you go.

1095
01:34:24,180 --> 01:34:32,580
I think it would be advantageous and more alluring to some of these businesses to have outdoor

1096
01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:33,940
seating.

1097
01:34:34,580 --> 01:34:38,200
Do we have any ordinances in place that address?

1098
01:34:38,900 --> 01:34:42,420
If I'm here incorrectly, we don't have anything that addresses outdoor dining.

1099
01:34:43,060 --> 01:34:43,480
We do.

1100
01:34:43,980 --> 01:34:49,260
We have a specific permit and so the ordinance that you're looking at here only applies with

1101
01:34:49,260 --> 01:34:54,500
permanent areas. I'm trying to have to name the specific business, but there is one very close

1102
01:34:54,500 --> 01:34:59,560
to City Hall across the street that does have some outdoor tables. I believe that's where

1103
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:07,380
this came up. The answer to your question about what somebody not know that they shouldn't be in

1104
01:35:07,380 --> 01:35:12,380
the area is that the phrasing of this ordinance is that they have to remain in an area that they're

1105
01:35:12,380 --> 01:35:18,660
not permitted to be in. They have to be asked first to leave the area and then choose not to.

1106
01:35:18,660 --> 01:35:23,220
So that would be the protection against them unawares being in the area and then running

1107
01:35:23,220 --> 01:35:24,240
a fall of this ordinance.

1108
01:35:24,660 --> 01:35:29,080
And then that gives the police the authorization to ask somebody to move on down the road.

1109
01:35:29,620 --> 01:35:29,680
Correct.

1110
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,000
Councilman Qsupius.

1111
01:35:31,460 --> 01:35:31,700
Yes.

1112
01:35:31,780 --> 01:35:32,460
Thank you.

1113
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:32,740
Eric.

1114
01:35:32,980 --> 01:35:39,680
I think a lot of the questions about whether it needs to be a designated area or not apply to the

1115
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:44,700
permit and process when a business comes and asks for the permit to allow the outdoor seating

1116
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:45,240
correct.

1117
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:51,640
So, some of those details could be ironed out in the permit process, and then this is just

1118
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:57,920
to allow police to enforce if someone is just there hanging out during a normal operating

1119
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:58,560
business hours.

1120
01:35:58,720 --> 01:35:59,700
Yeah, that's correct.

1121
01:35:59,940 --> 01:36:03,700
And there's a whole, if you all want to engage in the policy decision of whether you want

1122
01:36:03,700 --> 01:36:09,780
to reframe your outdoor dining ordinance to require vericates outlining where it is, you can

1123
01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:10,260
do so.

1124
01:36:10,340 --> 01:36:14,240
I mean, there are public policy considerations that you'd have to work through in that conversation,

1125
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:19,340
and, like, do you want to eat up more of the public right of way by requiring those, but that's

1126
01:36:19,340 --> 01:36:21,680
again not the question that was in front of us for this ordinance.

1127
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,820
Well, we have a, did you make that in front of a motion council?

1128
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:28,540
Didn't.

1129
01:36:28,900 --> 01:36:31,000
Can we second this?

1130
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,200
Is there any other discussion having here none?

1131
01:36:34,700 --> 01:36:35,500
All those in favor?

1132
01:36:36,980 --> 01:36:37,380
Gene Adams.

1133
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:45,360
Okay, Mr. Mayor, the next one that we voted on for the public safety committee meeting was with

1134
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:54,100
of Burton. She presented resolution to upgrade record rotation agreement to include updated

1135
01:36:54,100 --> 01:37:01,580
maximum pricing terms, better safety requirements such as increase insurance minimums,

1136
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:08,940
separate storage requirements for electric and hybrid vehicles, and optimal separate storage

1137
01:37:08,940 --> 01:37:13,500
for commercial motor vehicles, and Laura's here.

1138
01:37:13,860 --> 01:37:16,480
She could feel questions as well, if you have any.

1139
01:37:17,060 --> 01:37:21,360
This ordinance should be on page eight, if you'd like to look at it.

1140
01:37:22,440 --> 01:37:24,880
Thank you for doing this.

1141
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:29,320
I get maybe the calls complaining about getting total bills

1142
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:30,740
will look less and a little.

1143
01:37:32,340 --> 01:37:35,260
So do you want to make that in a form of emotion count?

1144
01:37:35,500 --> 01:37:37,060
I do make it in a form of emotion.

1145
01:37:37,060 --> 01:37:38,700
We have a second.

1146
01:37:38,700 --> 01:37:40,960
We have a second.

1147
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:41,400
We have a second.

1148
01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:41,480
I have a second.

1149
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:43,900
My councilman, Consubius, now will have discussion.

1150
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:47,820
Can you explain it?

1151
01:37:48,260 --> 01:37:49,940
Can you just splash it out what it is?

1152
01:37:59,620 --> 01:37:59,940
Sure.

1153
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:08,720
So this is the agreement that the towing companies have to abide by when police call towers.

1154
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:15,460
When police call tow trucks to an accident seen or whatever else has occurred out there.

1155
01:38:15,460 --> 01:38:18,020
And we need to remove vehicles from the roadway.

1156
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,900
So we have a number of companies that are on what we call the rotation list,

1157
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,020
and for them to sign up to get our business, they have to agree to these things.

1158
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,020
And the last time we updated this was 2019.

1159
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:36,560
So some things have changed, pricing got up a little and some things that we've improved with safety

1160
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:42,760
requirements. Those are things being incorporated into this new agreement that we would propose

1161
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:43,820
using going forward.

1162
01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:53,740
under this agreement, just question, because this came up in a discussion today, when

1163
01:38:53,740 --> 01:39:03,140
the record company chose the vehicle, the person who owns that vehicle can charge the

1164
01:39:03,140 --> 01:39:09,040
record company rentals like it's a rental, it's a new law under North Carolina statutes.

1165
01:39:10,300 --> 01:39:15,040
They are that car that sits on the record every day.

1166
01:39:16,340 --> 01:39:17,080
It's the rental.

1167
01:39:18,020 --> 01:39:23,260
It's some new law that you told my car to your pound.

1168
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,800
I can charge you per day.

1169
01:39:26,740 --> 01:39:28,200
Can you just check with that Eric?

1170
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:30,020
I'm just, I just saw it today.

1171
01:39:31,260 --> 01:39:32,660
I'm not heard of that, but we'll check.

1172
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,680
There was a, I know in Laura will know more about this as well.

1173
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,820
but there were several record laws that were proposed

1174
01:39:40,820 --> 01:39:41,600
in the last session.

1175
01:39:41,780 --> 01:39:44,300
Many of them did not actually end up going through it.

1176
01:39:44,340 --> 01:39:45,720
Yeah, I don't think it's that easy.

1177
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:48,840
I do have one question.

1178
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:54,320
In all the new rules, can we find the companies

1179
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,780
that don't clean up the wrecks very well?

1180
01:39:57,980 --> 01:40:01,720
So when you run over a broken piece of something,

1181
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,300
your tower goes flat?

1182
01:40:04,660 --> 01:40:11,620
that is not specifically covered in this contract. In fact, we allow them to charge

1183
01:40:11,620 --> 01:40:17,300
forclean up, but I would say that that might be covered by something, some other

1184
01:40:17,300 --> 01:40:21,580
ordinance about leaving something in the public right of way that we may be able

1185
01:40:21,580 --> 01:40:26,920
to find them for. If we knew that they did it, or obstructing a sidewalk or something like that.

1186
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:33,320
He just in the affirmative that that was the only question I'd have is because that I can speak from experience two weeks ago

1187
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:35,440
Flat tower

1188
01:40:36,380 --> 01:40:40,500
So we have a motion. We have a second any more discussion

1189
01:40:40,980 --> 01:40:43,140
Have you none all those in favor?

1190
01:40:45,340 --> 01:40:45,820
unanimous

1191
01:40:45,820 --> 01:40:47,520
Great. Thank you. Thank you

1192
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:53,100
Lord appreciate it and Mr. Mayor the last thing I just want to say about the committee meeting

1193
01:40:54,320 --> 01:41:00,240
We have the real-time crime center in play and looks fantastic.

1194
01:41:00,500 --> 01:41:03,500
I think everybody's gone through a little tour there.

1195
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:10,960
So I just wanted to say that is the end of our public safety committee meeting.

1196
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,480
And I appreciate it and kind of did a great job.

1197
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:17,040
Thank you, sir.

1198
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:20,260
And if you haven't seen it to the general public.

1199
01:41:23,610 --> 01:41:30,690
Chief, is the public allowed to come down in that little committee room for a common area

1200
01:41:30,690 --> 01:41:34,090
and look through the glasses if they want to.

1201
01:41:38,050 --> 01:41:38,070
Okay.

1202
01:41:38,830 --> 01:41:39,130
Okay.

1203
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:39,750
I like this one.

1204
01:41:40,470 --> 01:41:40,650
Yeah.

1205
01:41:40,750 --> 01:41:42,490
I like this one.

1206
01:41:42,490 --> 01:41:43,790
That's right.

1207
01:41:43,930 --> 01:41:45,290
If they join the Citizens Academy,

1208
01:41:48,700 --> 01:41:49,360
it is phenomenal.

1209
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:54,360
Next up, we'll have our personnel committee report by Councilwoman Donio Barber.

1210
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:54,800
The

1211
01:42:02,420 --> 01:42:09,100
personnel committee met again a couple of weeks ago, and this is in reference to our

1212
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:18,200
evaluation for our city manager. We met back during the summertime, and during that meeting,

1213
01:42:20,580 --> 01:42:20,660
we

1214
01:42:20,660 --> 01:42:25,920
interviewed the committee interviewed developmental associates

1215
01:42:27,140 --> 01:42:37,120
about their services that they provide for evaluating city managers as well as they discuss

1216
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:43,000
their programs and their services for evaluating city attorneys as well.

1217
01:42:43,420 --> 01:42:50,640
At that meeting we decided to solicit other proposals so that we could be able to choose

1218
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:55,080
from other or be able to make a more informed decision.

1219
01:42:56,380 --> 01:43:01,240
So we sought out four different agencies,

1220
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,780
and we received two because the other two just didn't have

1221
01:43:04,780 --> 01:43:12,440
the capacity to be able to even accept even if this is the

1222
01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:13,360
direction we wanted to go.

1223
01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:17,100
They didn't have the capacity to complete the evaluation.

1224
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:32,000
So, we met a couple of weeks ago and we interviewed the committee, interviewed a different organization, which we're familiar with, we became familiar with them when we were seeking our city attorney and that was Baker Tilley.

1225
01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:44,140
So, the committee voted to recommend that Council utilized the facilitator review process for the manager's evaluation.

1226
01:43:44,140 --> 01:43:49,500
as you all know, this should have happened in the spring which we all have discussed and know

1227
01:43:49,500 --> 01:43:57,260
that is a very difficult time. And now we have our city attorney that came on in the spring

1228
01:43:57,260 --> 01:44:05,800
as well. So there was some discussion with the personal committee that we wanted to be able

1229
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:11,900
to have a different date to evaluate our manager anyway. So this was an opportunity to

1230
01:44:11,900 --> 01:44:19,300
to reset that process and be able to evaluate our manager in the file.

1231
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,480
So this is something new for us with the City of Gastonia in the past.

1232
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:32,680
We have not utilized an outside organization, consulting organization

1233
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,540
to conduct our evaluation.

1234
01:44:36,540 --> 01:44:52,080
And I don't know about anyone else, but I have always founded, unsettling, and that's the word I use, the process that we use to evaluate our manager.

1235
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:57,500
Because basically you have the manager's direct reports,

1236
01:44:59,820 --> 01:44:59,820
facilitating.

1237
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:10,400
The process, which I wouldn't want to be in that, if I was there, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes to have to facilitate that process.

1238
01:45:11,220 --> 01:45:26,920
And we certainly don't want a manager, you know, that certainly is a conflict. And in my opinion, and that's just my opinion, direct reports, typically direct reports do not facilitate their managers evaluations.

1239
01:45:29,420 --> 01:45:37,380
And so we put in force this option to utilize a facilitator review process, which I've learned

1240
01:45:37,380 --> 01:45:46,000
a lot, exploring this option, one to assure accountability of our manager, making sure that

1241
01:45:47,140 --> 01:45:49,000
all voices are heard.

1242
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:57,460
you know, in terms of council members, all voices I heard in a very structure and form a way

1243
01:45:57,460 --> 01:46:07,720
I voices I heard in terms of our expectations for our manager. Every year, our manager says,

1244
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:14,560
and I won't quote because I know won't get it exactly right, but every year he says,

1245
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:19,800
is, you know, it's a challenge because there are seven of us.

1246
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:25,880
So he has seven different people, seven different, you know, ideas, thoughts, processes coming

1247
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,000
at him a lot of times all at the same time.

1248
01:46:29,420 --> 01:46:36,220
So this, this will provide a more structured way of even receiving feedback from council.

1249
01:46:38,340 --> 01:46:44,200
Um, again, in a more structured way that is not only relate to our manager in a, in a

1250
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,140
verbal capacity, but also in a written capacity.

1251
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:56,240
So it ends in a formal report, so that again, it's clear what our expectations are, it's clear

1252
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:56,880
to our manager.

1253
01:46:56,980 --> 01:47:00,200
It's even clear to us because it is in a written form.

1254
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:11,640
So what is coming before you today is, again, the recommendation that council utilize a facilitated

1255
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:16,720
review process for our manager's evaluation as opposed to

1256
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:24,420
relying on his direct report as well as us as council members to try to

1257
01:47:24,420 --> 01:47:26,140
facilitate this process.

1258
01:47:27,450 --> 01:47:29,050
And that's the only action.

1259
01:47:29,150 --> 01:47:30,590
Are you making that a form of motion?

1260
01:47:30,590 --> 01:47:31,990
I'm making it in a form of a motion.

1261
01:47:32,290 --> 01:47:33,110
Do we have a second?

1262
01:47:33,510 --> 01:47:34,010
Second.

1263
01:47:34,410 --> 01:47:35,010
I have a second.

1264
01:47:35,150 --> 01:47:36,350
By Councilman Gallagher.

1265
01:47:37,070 --> 01:47:38,550
We'll have discussion now.

1266
01:47:39,250 --> 01:47:41,150
I think it's going to give us a new perspective.

1267
01:47:41,150 --> 01:48:00,850
You know, I mean, we've been doing the same way for so long, it's just we need some in terms of seeing how other cities do this and hopefully we can do it in a different manner on how to evaluate the city manager.

1268
01:48:02,370 --> 01:48:06,230
And I think it's going to give everybody an opportunity to speak and be heard.

1269
01:48:06,770 --> 01:48:13,330
I just think that the person who's going to lead it would provide us that sensibility.

1270
01:48:14,170 --> 01:48:20,330
And they'll be able to say, you know, this is what these cities have done, this is what, you know, we can do here.

1271
01:48:20,670 --> 01:48:27,370
Now, are they going to be able to get in contact with us prior and offer different ways on how to do this?

1272
01:48:32,970 --> 01:48:40,910
comparing our process to the process that is being offered to us, what I've discovered

1273
01:48:40,910 --> 01:48:46,810
is there should be about four different steps to complete this process to get a more comprehensive

1274
01:48:47,450 --> 01:48:51,970
and more thorough evaluation of the manager.

1275
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:55,570
So is that prior to meeting us meeting?

1276
01:48:56,190 --> 01:49:01,450
Yes, yes, yes, so it would, that's like the last step.

1277
01:49:01,450 --> 01:49:08,970
So based on my exploration, it seems that of four critical steps, we're only utilizing one step.

1278
01:49:09,210 --> 01:49:11,850
And that's the implementation and the reporting piece.

1279
01:49:12,210 --> 01:49:16,470
Other pieces that we're missing is the planning and the design and development,

1280
01:49:16,650 --> 01:49:22,410
which is what you're speaking to, which is the feedback from us, you know,

1281
01:49:22,570 --> 01:49:27,430
us individually being interviewed and being able to provide that feedback.

1282
01:49:27,430 --> 01:49:31,450
And then of course ultimately delivering the performance data

1283
01:49:32,770 --> 01:49:37,450
facilitation so that someone is actually facilitating that process.

1284
01:49:37,770 --> 01:49:40,430
I think it's going to give us a better perspective.

1285
01:49:41,250 --> 01:49:41,690
Thank you.

1286
01:49:41,810 --> 01:49:42,310
Councilwoman.

1287
01:49:43,250 --> 01:49:43,870
Little John.

1288
01:49:44,450 --> 01:49:45,090
Or Mr. Stark.

1289
01:49:45,770 --> 01:49:46,430
Councilwoman, still.

1290
01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:47,430
Okay, I guess.

1291
01:49:48,590 --> 01:49:52,750
I guess I need a better explanation of what we've been doing.

1292
01:49:53,090 --> 01:49:55,870
What's going to be, can you explain more detail about what's going to be different

1293
01:49:55,870 --> 01:50:02,110
about the process we've been using for decades to this, you know, you said four steps, but

1294
01:50:02,110 --> 01:50:02,670
how's it going to be?

1295
01:50:02,670 --> 01:50:09,810
So typically, as you know, we receive a survey, and we complete this survey,

1296
01:50:12,610 --> 01:50:12,970
which, you

1297
01:50:12,970 --> 01:50:20,950
know, is a struggle sometimes in front meeting that deadline to submit the survey, and

1298
01:50:20,950 --> 01:50:29,450
staff has to get on to us and remind us repeatedly to turn in the information with this process.

1299
01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:42,450
It's more of a 101 situation where we would individually be contacted in an interview by the evaluator.

1300
01:50:42,450 --> 01:50:50,710
So, about the firm that would be conducting the facilitating, the facilitators, what I mean to say.

1301
01:50:51,210 --> 01:50:59,410
So, we would individually have the opportunity to give that feedback, complete surveys,

1302
01:51:00,330 --> 01:51:05,530
but it'd be more tailored as opposed to being more standard to what would be in being more tailored.

1303
01:51:05,530 --> 01:51:14,170
In the past, I managed to always submit his accomplishments that would continue to be part of the process.

1304
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:18,250
But that would be one of the ways that that would be different.

1305
01:51:20,270 --> 01:51:24,530
The proposal also included the opportunity to

1306
01:51:26,670 --> 01:51:31,690
conduct interviews with department heads and to be able to get their feedback.

1307
01:51:31,690 --> 01:51:34,070
So that would be another different component

1308
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:37,910
compared to what we have done in the past.

1309
01:51:38,290 --> 01:51:43,390
So that was several different differences

1310
01:51:43,390 --> 01:51:46,210
in compared to what we've done in the past.

1311
01:51:46,430 --> 01:51:48,730
And then again, we walk away, in the past,

1312
01:51:48,910 --> 01:51:54,790
we walk away, we convey what our expectations are

1313
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:57,670
and our manager is writing it all down.

1314
01:51:57,670 --> 01:52:01,310
But we don't have anything written to say, hey,

1315
01:52:01,310 --> 01:52:11,710
This is what we've agreed upon as to our expectations of what we expect to see, you know, until the next evaluation.

1316
01:52:12,330 --> 01:52:14,330
But in the end, we're all still in the same room.

1317
01:52:14,450 --> 01:52:14,850
Absolutely.

1318
01:52:14,850 --> 01:52:16,550
Don't over that information.

1319
01:52:17,210 --> 01:52:19,790
And talking about how it occludes.

1320
01:52:20,170 --> 01:52:21,310
It concludes with that.

1321
01:52:22,110 --> 01:52:25,730
Well, that's the final step is, of course, that written report.

1322
01:52:26,990 --> 01:52:28,010
What comes out of that, I mean.

1323
01:52:28,010 --> 01:52:36,650
Yes, we will continue to conclude with that meeting all in the same room and it would be a facilitated discussion.

1324
01:52:37,170 --> 01:52:38,790
That's California, a little job.

1325
01:52:39,490 --> 01:52:44,450
Well, mine is in the last 25 years, and I hope that Dr. Kerlin is not here.

1326
01:52:44,890 --> 01:52:53,050
That you all have used a system and so basically now, like the system was not working for you.

1327
01:52:53,050 --> 01:53:01,230
All I'm saying is that if I ask, and I know this is tonight, but Eric, the template that we

1328
01:53:01,230 --> 01:53:08,490
use to evaluate, because you're talking about the body that hires, does not evaluate.

1329
01:53:09,290 --> 01:53:16,250
I've been a part of many corporations, and you know, no, I'm just saying, no, I'm just,

1330
01:53:16,250 --> 01:53:17,050
Let me finish.

1331
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:17,530
Okay.

1332
01:53:17,530 --> 01:53:21,110
Is that who hires the manager?

1333
01:53:22,890 --> 01:53:25,370
No, I'm just saying, we all know who hires the manager.

1334
01:53:25,570 --> 01:53:28,570
No, I'm just saying, I won't educate the public.

1335
01:53:29,710 --> 01:53:33,370
We hired the manager, but now we don't evaluate them.

1336
01:53:33,590 --> 01:53:35,090
That's who said we're not evaluate them.

1337
01:53:35,110 --> 01:53:41,230
No, we are looking to bring it outside to facilitate the salotating manager.

1338
01:53:41,630 --> 01:53:42,190
Don't talk.

1339
01:53:42,310 --> 01:53:42,790
Hey, wait.

1340
01:53:43,070 --> 01:53:44,430
When are you going to talk over each other?

1341
01:53:44,830 --> 01:53:44,910
Right.

1342
01:53:44,910 --> 01:53:46,370
And I want to clarify that.

1343
01:53:47,310 --> 01:53:47,970
Correct information.

1344
01:53:48,730 --> 01:53:49,730
So let me clarify.

1345
01:53:50,510 --> 01:53:50,650
Okay.

1346
01:53:51,770 --> 01:53:59,110
So we don't need outside facilitator to do what we've been doing because it's been working.

1347
01:53:59,770 --> 01:54:09,270
And now we're going to, again, now we just spoke about $2 and $4 and how much is this facilitator.

1348
01:54:10,290 --> 01:54:11,730
Now that's extra money.

1349
01:54:11,970 --> 01:54:13,630
We have never had to pay.

1350
01:54:13,630 --> 01:54:19,890
Okay, so now it's been going well, you've been on the council, you all have done a great job in evaluating.

1351
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:24,230
So all I'm saying is that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

1352
01:54:25,230 --> 01:54:36,010
So if we're facilitating any evaluating, that is what corporate does when you hire somebody of this magnitude to run this entire city,

1353
01:54:36,010 --> 01:54:43,830
We can have a rubric that is weighted on the natural stewardship, strategic plan, execution, operations.

1354
01:54:44,570 --> 01:54:49,770
I mean, all of the departments, we need to talk to his direct reports.

1355
01:54:50,970 --> 01:54:59,150
Then we have those surveys that go out because it's about culture, it's about climate, and it's about all of the execution.

1356
01:54:59,750 --> 01:55:05,650
This body has done it for the last 25 years, and I'm gonna say this.

1357
01:55:06,270 --> 01:55:09,490
Yeah, I'll complain about it, but don't fail.

1358
01:55:10,710 --> 01:55:11,310
I love saying that.

1359
01:55:11,690 --> 01:55:12,330
I don't know.

1360
01:55:12,730 --> 01:55:13,930
I'm just asking.

1361
01:55:14,590 --> 01:55:17,230
And it has been difficult at times, but nobody said it's not.

1362
01:55:17,290 --> 01:55:19,050
It didn't cost us anything.

1363
01:55:20,530 --> 01:55:20,890
There you go.

1364
01:55:21,050 --> 01:55:26,070
So why you realized taxpayer dollars to do something that we've been doing?

1365
01:55:26,450 --> 01:55:28,210
And it's been working for us.

1366
01:55:28,610 --> 01:55:32,350
And now we, I don't know, 15, $16,000.

1367
01:55:32,350 --> 01:55:37,370
What that 15, 16,000 dollars can help a whole lot of kids swim.

1368
01:55:38,250 --> 01:55:45,690
It's the best asking other people in the community to write their hard earned money to help children.

1369
01:55:45,910 --> 01:55:47,470
And we got a city owned pool.

1370
01:55:47,730 --> 01:55:52,170
And now we're saying that what we have done for the last 25.

1371
01:55:52,450 --> 01:55:54,630
And I don't know Dr. Kirlen has been on this.

1372
01:55:54,850 --> 01:55:56,630
And Y'all have done a great job.

1373
01:55:57,430 --> 01:55:59,150
And it's been difficult, but guess what?

1374
01:55:59,150 --> 01:56:00,230
What do we all say?

1375
01:56:00,650 --> 01:56:03,630
This job right here, it is for us to be difficult

1376
01:56:03,630 --> 01:56:06,390
because he's the number one or she would be

1377
01:56:06,390 --> 01:56:09,090
the number one person in charge of this city

1378
01:56:09,090 --> 01:56:11,190
and it has been going well.

1379
01:56:11,590 --> 01:56:13,930
So why would we waste taxpayer dollars

1380
01:56:13,930 --> 01:56:18,730
and we in a climate right now of dollars this time

1381
01:56:19,150 --> 01:56:21,450
and we need to be fiscally conservative?

1382
01:56:21,650 --> 01:56:24,630
Yeah, but I don't think you understand the perspective

1383
01:56:24,630 --> 01:56:28,910
that you can gain for not just the one time

1384
01:56:29,150 --> 01:56:30,810
You can carry it forward.

1385
01:56:31,170 --> 01:56:32,870
You don't have to keep using them.

1386
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:36,010
You can learn about how they do the processes

1387
01:56:36,010 --> 01:56:41,050
at other cities and utilize that in the future.

1388
01:56:41,490 --> 01:56:42,770
You'll get a different perspective.

1389
01:56:43,210 --> 01:56:45,910
Right now, I think using the same perspective,

1390
01:56:46,150 --> 01:56:51,530
it's almost like saying what Councilman Barber was saying

1391
01:56:51,530 --> 01:56:57,690
that they actually interview the direct reports to Michael.

1392
01:56:57,690 --> 01:57:00,770
And we would get information from them right now.

1393
01:57:00,790 --> 01:57:02,370
We don't have that kind of information.

1394
01:57:02,970 --> 01:57:05,530
But we don't even have what questions do you even ask?

1395
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:07,770
This is a perspective that we're going to,

1396
01:57:07,770 --> 01:57:10,690
it's a professional organization that knows what they're doing.

1397
01:57:11,050 --> 01:57:12,190
They've done it in the past.

1398
01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:16,330
And it's something that we can gain in clean from.

1399
01:57:16,670 --> 01:57:17,790
That's what it's about.

1400
01:57:18,190 --> 01:57:19,610
I don't think it's something like,

1401
01:57:19,630 --> 01:57:22,610
oh, we're going to do this over the next every year.

1402
01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:26,990
We can do it for this year and then see what we can gain from it.

1403
01:57:26,990 --> 01:57:29,090
So we can use it for the following year.

1404
01:57:29,110 --> 01:57:29,870
I'm just saying that.

1405
01:57:29,870 --> 01:57:30,770
That's what I'm saying.

1406
01:57:31,470 --> 01:57:34,030
Yeah, it is 15, $15,000.

1407
01:57:34,610 --> 01:57:38,350
But in reality, it's something that's going to give us a good

1408
01:57:38,350 --> 01:57:43,930
perspective on how to move forward and help and make sure

1409
01:57:43,930 --> 01:57:48,370
everybody, not just here, but even the direct reports will

1410
01:57:48,370 --> 01:57:50,290
have input into this.

1411
01:57:50,750 --> 01:57:52,190
And that's something that's been missing.

1412
01:57:52,350 --> 01:57:55,130
Let's go to Councilman Kasupius and we'll come back.

1413
01:57:55,130 --> 01:57:59,990
Council on the little John. No question. No question.

1414
01:58:00,490 --> 01:58:01,670
Yes. Council on the little John.

1415
01:58:02,330 --> 01:58:05,270
So, so mine is this.

1416
01:58:05,890 --> 01:58:07,530
Jim, you worked for Wells Fargo.

1417
01:58:07,770 --> 01:58:07,970
Yes.

1418
01:58:08,490 --> 01:58:09,450
Council on the Gallagher.

1419
01:58:09,770 --> 01:58:10,070
I'm sorry.

1420
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:12,050
Forgive me.

1421
01:58:12,610 --> 01:58:15,110
CEO, hires you or your VP.

1422
01:58:16,490 --> 01:58:20,350
Do they bring it outside agency to evaluate you?

1423
01:58:20,930 --> 01:58:24,870
They bring it outside agency to evaluate the CEO.

1424
01:58:24,870 --> 01:58:34,890
the CEO. The person's in charge of the organization. Yes. Okay, so let me ask you. Thank you for answering that. Have we been doing it successfully?

1425
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:54,380
I'm just saying that we can learn more if we go a new route. I think it's going to help everybody on this board to see how, you know, the importance and to learn from another way. Right now, I think we're at that point.

1426
01:58:54,380 --> 01:58:57,580
No, I'm just, we definitely have a good, definitely.

1427
01:58:58,380 --> 01:59:02,080
The way we've been doing it is working, and it's been free.

1428
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,560
And we're fiscal conservatives, correct?

1429
01:59:06,620 --> 01:59:10,580
So I'm going to say that the way we've been doing it works,

1430
01:59:11,820 --> 01:59:13,240
if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

1431
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:16,540
Because now you're saying for us to try something,

1432
01:59:17,140 --> 01:59:20,040
and that's in it has a $12,000 ram application,

1433
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:24,020
and you all have been doing a great job in the last years,

1434
01:59:24,020 --> 01:59:31,980
Dr. Carolyn has been on this council, they have been doing this since I'm going to take it in the last 25 years.

1435
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:34,740
But Dr. Carolyn did vote to bring this forward.

1436
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:43,840
I understand that. That doesn't mean it's right. I've just had fiscal income start that we waste and tax pay of dollars because it has been working fine.

1437
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:45,620
The way it's been done.

1438
01:59:45,620 --> 01:59:49,600
Yeah, but as you said, how does Wells Fargo pick a CEO?

1439
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:53,500
Michael would be the CEO of this organization here.

1440
01:59:53,500 --> 01:59:55,100
Well, it's Fargo because they get better.

1441
01:59:56,300 --> 01:59:58,580
Because, but you ask, and that's how they do it.

1442
01:59:58,880 --> 01:59:59,960
They bring in an outside-

1443
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,080
And they interviewed the board, and they also interviewed the people that have been selected.

1444
02:00:08,420 --> 02:00:09,260
That's how they do it.

1445
02:00:09,260 --> 02:00:10,560
That was the bad question.

1446
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:13,660
No, that's not a bad question. That's a accurate question.

1447
02:00:13,660 --> 02:00:16,420
No, that's their process. That was their process.

1448
02:00:16,780 --> 02:00:19,120
Our process has never been like that.

1449
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:22,160
So I'm saying, I apologize because we can learn.

1450
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:25,440
I'm saying, let's save money.

1451
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:28,420
I'm just saying, let's save money.

1452
02:00:28,420 --> 02:00:36,340
I'm going to put my, I'm on the personnel committee and I voted to bring this forward because

1453
02:00:36,340 --> 02:00:43,060
everybody knows that I think everybody should have the right to speak. It shouldn't be made

1454
02:00:43,060 --> 02:00:43,700
clear.

1455
02:00:44,220 --> 02:00:44,880
Me personally,

1456
02:00:47,620 --> 02:00:56,540
I'm not forced spending $12,000 because it's taxpayer's money because as the

1457
02:00:56,540 --> 02:01:02,200
I know how to evaluate people.

1458
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:08,170
Last year was my first time evaluating in the system that we have.

1459
02:01:08,900 --> 02:01:12,280
The Rubik was pretty good.

1460
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:18,800
And everything that I have seen from the presentations from Baker Tillis

1461
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,900
and I can't remember the other one.

1462
02:01:20,940 --> 02:01:22,160
Council of Associates.

1463
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:23,440
Yeah, developmental associates.

1464
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:31,320
It's great organizations, but from my background, I don't need anybody to explain to me

1465
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:33,480
how to do my job.

1466
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:47,220
The people elected everybody on this diet, and to do the job of being fiduciary, responsibility,

1467
02:01:47,220 --> 02:01:54,360
the ability, main concern is the budget, second concern is management.

1468
02:01:55,820 --> 02:01:57,760
Like I said, I voted to bring this forward.

1469
02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:06,820
I'm not for having an outside source because the people entrusted us to run the city

1470
02:02:06,820 --> 02:02:10,340
and I agree with some of the things that Councilman Gallagher said.

1471
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:14,320
I agree with a lot of things that Councilwoman Little John said.

1472
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:18,820
But everything that these companies have proposed to us,

1473
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:23,820
we could do internally the seven of us,

1474
02:02:24,740 --> 02:02:30,280
and not have to spend $12, $13,000.

1475
02:02:33,740 --> 02:02:37,380
So at this point, ma'am would you like to make this

1476
02:02:37,380 --> 02:02:38,720
in the form of emotion?

1477
02:02:42,820 --> 02:02:44,180
She already has, and we have a second.

1478
02:02:44,180 --> 02:02:46,380
I don't like to, do we have a second?

1479
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:46,840
We do.

1480
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:48,180
Yeah, Jim said.

1481
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,980
I would like to entertain because, oh, I have here,

1482
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:53,500
I'm not on this committee.

1483
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:54,980
Oh, let me.

1484
02:02:55,380 --> 02:02:56,360
I'm not on this committee.

1485
02:02:56,380 --> 02:02:58,440
I'll have here or some notes.

1486
02:02:58,860 --> 02:03:00,720
I would like before I make a decision

1487
02:03:01,290 --> 02:03:05,880
to have the presentation that you guys got from the two companies

1488
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:08,680
so that we could have more information.

1489
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:11,920
I don't know if like I can make a decision.

1490
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:15,980
I have really educated decision with the amount of information I have here.

1491
02:03:16,020 --> 02:03:22,220
I don't know if it was a miscommunication or not in I'm meeting,

1492
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:28,900
but we talked about having

1493
02:03:28,900 --> 02:03:34,860
really before council in the committee deciding, ultimately, if they wanted to move forward with it.

1494
02:03:34,860 --> 02:03:44,180
And then we talked about sitting in this information and they never thought it's so, so we're going to entertain them to table if we get this information.

1495
02:03:44,660 --> 02:03:52,260
Ma'am, I would love to have an opportunity to sit down and talk to some people about different properties, yeah.

1496
02:03:52,620 --> 02:03:59,200
It would be a breakdown of communication and it was not sent to everyone, but we can't get it sent to sit down together.

1497
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,800
Of course, whatever you want to antiquate it to be honest with you.

1498
02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:04,000
Would you like to pull your motion?

1499
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:13,040
or table your motion, not necessarily pull it, but we need to, we need to either have it,

1500
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:15,000
what's the correct term pull it or withdraw?

1501
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:17,820
With withdraw the motion, then a motion to table the discussion.

1502
02:04:18,180 --> 02:04:20,180
Yes, so I will withdraw the motion.

1503
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:27,780
And then you're making a motion to table it or continue it to a date certain, so you could either

1504
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:32,020
pause it or set which council meeting you wanted to come back to you at.

1505
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:36,180
So we'll pick in the next agenda.

1506
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:44,340
We have a motion, a second, the amended motion, a motion.

1507
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:46,780
Motion and all those in favor.

1508
02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:48,560
Or we're going to have a discussion.

1509
02:04:49,140 --> 02:04:51,080
I want to add something since we'm on table.

1510
02:04:51,580 --> 02:04:56,900
Can you bring forth attorney, Eric?

1511
02:04:58,020 --> 02:04:59,820
The last, I must say it's Jim,

1512
02:04:59,820 --> 02:05:03,280
It's been only at the tool that was used in the last couple.

1513
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:07,960
So we have that information, but we also have the information now.

1514
02:05:08,060 --> 02:05:14,480
What we utilized for the last four or five city managers that we, because obviously it was working.

1515
02:05:15,020 --> 02:05:16,280
Okay, we can get that.

1516
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:18,080
But that doesn't pertain to this.

1517
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:18,380
Yeah.

1518
02:05:18,620 --> 02:05:20,340
I'm just asking email that.

1519
02:05:22,020 --> 02:05:22,060
Yeah.

1520
02:05:22,060 --> 02:05:23,320
That doesn't pertain to this.

1521
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:24,020
No, yeah.

1522
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:24,640
I'm just saying.

1523
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:25,820
But yeah.

1524
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:28,100
I'm just saying.

1525
02:05:28,700 --> 02:05:37,340
We have a motion, we have a second, we have information we need to get from city attorney, all those in favor of the motion that's presented.

1526
02:05:41,300 --> 02:05:43,120
We have to table it.

1527
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:43,760
That's what I'm saying.

1528
02:05:44,140 --> 02:05:44,660
That motion.

1529
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:46,320
It's unanimous.

1530
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:53,350
So that concludes my report.

1531
02:05:54,010 --> 02:05:54,590
Thank you, man.

1532
02:05:55,930 --> 02:05:56,430
Moving on.

1533
02:05:56,450 --> 02:05:58,090
Next we have our consent agenda.

1534
02:05:58,250 --> 02:06:00,730
There are seven items on the consent agenda this evening.

1535
02:06:00,790 --> 02:06:03,610
Are there any questions regarding the consent agenda?

1536
02:06:04,650 --> 02:06:08,390
Mr. Mayor, I like to make a motion that we accept the consent agenda as presented.

1537
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:11,330
We have a motion, can I have a second?

1538
02:06:11,470 --> 02:06:16,250
Second, we have a second by Councilwoman Barber and any discussion?

1539
02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:20,440
Consent agenda,

1540
02:06:37,450 --> 02:06:37,850
oh yeah,

1541
02:06:40,610 --> 02:06:43,810
Councilwoman Little John was just asking a question about I7 whether

1542
02:06:43,810 --> 02:06:51,730
they had sent out bids and that is our standard policy to have three bids before a contract

1543
02:06:51,730 --> 02:06:52,990
is awarded correct.

1544
02:06:53,570 --> 02:06:56,310
So, that was the beginning, so now, right?

1545
02:06:57,270 --> 02:06:59,450
For that amount, it would have been put out a bit now.

1546
02:06:59,610 --> 02:07:01,310
Now, how many responses I don't know.

1547
02:07:01,570 --> 02:07:02,590
It looks like it's five.

1548
02:07:03,310 --> 02:07:03,510
Okay.

1549
02:07:04,130 --> 02:07:07,330
So, having no other questions or discussion,

1550
02:07:10,350 --> 02:07:11,350
all those in favor?

1551
02:07:12,890 --> 02:07:13,350
Two Names.

1552
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:19,980
Next up is our regular agenda.

1553
02:07:20,300 --> 02:07:24,040
On the regular agenda tonight, we have four items on the agenda.

1554
02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:25,280
Regular agenda.

1555
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:28,400
The first one is a public hearing.

1556
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:32,200
And a consideration of a resolution to close

1557
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:36,040
Browcliffe Drive, an unopened street,

1558
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:38,900
which lies between Laurel Lane and Doe Street.

1559
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:43,260
And our presenter will be our city attorney, Eric Ederton.

1560
02:07:44,180 --> 02:07:46,680
And now open the public hearing.

1561
02:07:48,020 --> 02:07:48,480
Thank you, Mayor.

1562
02:07:48,620 --> 02:07:51,360
The materials that you have will include a map showing

1563
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:54,640
the location of the unopened right away to be closed.

1564
02:07:54,640 --> 02:08:00,680
The only thing I'll flag for you here is that you recently or relatively recently closed

1565
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:07,900
an unopened right of way across from this current section of unopened right of way.

1566
02:08:09,140 --> 02:08:12,800
As always, we've circulated this request to all of our departments to see if anybody had

1567
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:20,200
concerns about either potential connectivity issues or public safety, and we did not receive

1568
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:24,000
any objection or opposition from city departments?

1569
02:08:28,370 --> 02:08:29,330
Councilman Gallagher?

1570
02:08:30,270 --> 02:08:32,210
Eric, do we know what this guy's going to do?

1571
02:08:32,290 --> 02:08:35,690
So you get a build houses or townhouses there?

1572
02:08:35,910 --> 02:08:36,210
Do we know?

1573
02:08:36,550 --> 02:08:37,990
I don't know the specifics of the development,

1574
02:08:38,230 --> 02:08:42,230
but what I do know is that it is the same developer who owns

1575
02:08:42,230 --> 02:08:45,090
each parcel on either side of the unopened right away.

1576
02:08:46,190 --> 02:08:49,370
But I don't know if he has submitted any plans and in fact,

1577
02:08:49,590 --> 02:08:52,830
I doubt he would have if this right away hasn't been closed yet,

1578
02:08:52,830 --> 02:08:55,590
like they didn't even say. Thank you sir.

1579
02:08:59,910 --> 02:09:03,450
On this piece of property, I know somewhere in this area

1580
02:09:04,290 --> 02:09:10,930
there was a, it went for zoning for town homes. Is there a parcel that's close?

1581
02:09:10,930 --> 02:09:17,550
They're real nice. Yeah. Not on moral length. On moral length. I know those that are there,

1582
02:09:17,770 --> 02:09:22,470
but there was another piece of property, and I'm just trying to figure out if this is that piece of property.

1583
02:09:22,470 --> 02:09:27,290
It may be the, if you're looking at the map, if you have the map in front of you,

1584
02:09:27,430 --> 02:09:30,370
where our cliff drive is the right of where you're looking at closing now,

1585
02:09:31,070 --> 02:09:33,810
I don't know if the closure for a prior cliff circle,

1586
02:09:34,610 --> 02:09:41,430
which is across the street, may have been the other development that you've discussed,

1587
02:09:42,110 --> 02:09:47,430
but you did close the right of where you'd march immediately across from this one.

1588
02:09:48,230 --> 02:09:54,030
Okay, now that I see this other map, I don't think that is the partial that I've seen.

1589
02:09:55,190 --> 02:09:56,310
Any other discussion?

1590
02:09:59,850 --> 02:10:05,670
So, at that point, can I have a motion to approve this?

1591
02:10:05,870 --> 02:10:06,890
So moved.

1592
02:10:06,950 --> 02:10:08,910
You have to make a much surface, it's not a problem here.

1593
02:10:09,250 --> 02:10:10,030
Oh, that's right.

1594
02:10:10,350 --> 02:10:10,890
Can I make a motion?

1595
02:10:11,410 --> 02:10:11,850
Yeah.

1596
02:10:13,130 --> 02:10:13,270
Yeah.

1597
02:10:13,950 --> 02:10:15,370
Oh, it's right here.

1598
02:10:15,670 --> 02:10:15,770
Hold on.

1599
02:10:16,030 --> 02:10:16,890
Hold on.

1600
02:10:16,890 --> 02:10:23,570
We've got to make a motion to close public hearing and approve the resolution to close

1601
02:10:23,570 --> 02:10:29,290
by a curved drive and an open street which lies between Laurel Lane and Dewey Street.

1602
02:10:29,570 --> 02:10:30,970
We have a motion.

1603
02:10:31,650 --> 02:10:32,570
Can I have a second?

1604
02:10:32,930 --> 02:10:36,310
We have a second by councilwoman, step, all those in favor.

1605
02:10:39,940 --> 02:10:41,960
unanimous public hearing is closed.

1606
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:56,720
And just so the public knows on all three items that we have on public hearings, there were nobody was signed up to speak.

1607
02:10:58,420 --> 02:11:00,400
Next up, we'll have item J2.

1608
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:05,820
It is a public hearing of the Unified Development Ordnance Amendment, file number,

1609
02:11:06,260 --> 02:11:10,120
2-0-2-5-0-0-3-5-4.

1610
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:40,700
Subject hearing involves a request to amend section 2.7 terms defined in this ordinance and chapter 13 subdivisions of the unified development ordinance to update definitions for compliance with North Carolina general statutes and clarify language as it pertains to compliance with the comprehensive transportation plan the CTP and our presenter is Mr. Joe Gates. He is our assistant planning director director to declare the public hearing open.

1611
02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:49,060
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council, for let me be here tonight. As the Mayor just explained,

1612
02:11:49,280 --> 02:11:53,800
we do have some tax amendments here this evening and you actually heard from one of our

1613
02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:59,860
proponents trying to driving some of the need for the change Ms. Miranda Phillips. And so,

1614
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:05,180
if I may, I'm going to break this up into two sections and we'll kind of go over what those

1615
02:12:05,180 --> 02:12:16,840
So, in section one, we're working in what we call our definition section 2.7, and we're really just looking at modifying two definitions that are currently in our ordinance.

1616
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:34,900
So, the first one, we'll have to do with the child care centers located within a residence or known as CLIR, and then the second one would be a modification to the manufacturer goods class two, just to be more clear on the kind of the breakdown of our sections.

1617
02:12:34,900 --> 02:12:38,320
and how we use those NAI CS codes.

1618
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:42,460
And so on the screen and should be in your packet,

1619
02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:47,040
the first one that we are proposing would be

1620
02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:51,320
to apparently remove the number of children.

1621
02:12:51,860 --> 02:12:56,020
So the right now the ordinance limits it from 3 to 12.

1622
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:59,520
As we started finding out more about how the ordinance

1623
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:01,280
is updated at the state level,

1624
02:13:01,660 --> 02:13:02,700
and we reviewed the ordinance.

1625
02:13:02,700 --> 02:13:08,720
Instead of always trying to play catch up with the state and modify as needed, we felt

1626
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:13,900
that by actually just deleting a portion of the ordinance and basically now it reads

1627
02:13:13,900 --> 02:13:18,900
that if the state of North Carolina is going to license them, then the city will essentially

1628
02:13:18,900 --> 02:13:19,540
follow suit.

1629
02:13:19,700 --> 02:13:24,520
So that way we don't have to change every time it makes it very easy to take in those changes

1630
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:29,540
that you heard about earlier during public expression and it does not change any of our

1631
02:13:29,540 --> 02:13:36,340
supplemental regulation. So those things would still be in place like our folks are used to and

1632
02:13:36,340 --> 02:13:43,160
basically allows the state licensing process to continue as it as it kind of ebs and flows.

1633
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:50,780
And so that's part one of the definition. And part two is really just a clarification. So a couple

1634
02:13:50,780 --> 02:13:56,580
months back, if you remember we went through several, at least I think at least one or two meetings

1635
02:13:56,580 --> 02:14:06,340
where we dealt with different, sorry, lost my train of thought there, different manufacturing

1636
02:14:06,340 --> 02:14:10,660
for asphalt plants and so we've kind of got staffed with, okay, we've talked about asphalt

1637
02:14:10,660 --> 02:14:15,540
plants, what does it say about concrete and other types of development and so we went

1638
02:14:15,540 --> 02:14:22,580
through and so some of the sections and the notes in there were very specific to one type

1639
02:14:22,580 --> 02:14:27,700
of concrete manufacturing and so basically what these red lines and the other lines are doing

1640
02:14:27,700 --> 02:14:34,700
is pulling that number out that number 3, 2, 7, 3 so that's kind of the big umbrella prefix

1641
02:14:34,700 --> 02:14:39,960
for all kind of concrete manufacturing. So again, a portion of it was in there, just this

1642
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:46,520
clarifies it spells it out and gives it a name. So before I move on to the next section, are there

1643
02:14:46,520 --> 02:14:50,020
Any questions about those two definition changes?

1644
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:52,760
Yes, sir.

1645
02:14:53,360 --> 02:14:54,500
Joe, is this going to help that lady?

1646
02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:56,040
Yes, yes.

1647
02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:57,980
So, she contacted our office.

1648
02:14:58,380 --> 02:14:59,920
She actually had come in for a permit.

1649
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:18,640
To do some property expansion, then when we got to talk to her and see what is this in relationship to. She mentioned the house bills and the recent legislation that had passed and so when we went and looked at our ordinance, okay, yeah, that there's a conflict here that we need to resolve and that's how we're here today. Yes, sir.

1650
02:15:20,860 --> 02:15:28,360
And it would also say any future changes that the state does, but basically it's saying here as determined by the Department of Health and Human Services.

1651
02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:36,740
So, they can change their laws, and this basically, as I say, as long as the state is given you a license, the limit to it.

1652
02:15:36,740 --> 02:15:37,080
Yes, sir.

1653
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:37,480
Thanks.

1654
02:15:42,140 --> 02:15:43,740
Moving on to section two.

1655
02:15:44,580 --> 02:15:59,920
So, section two, we're going to be looking at chapter 13, and specifically the section that discusses how we work with developments as it pertains to the CTP, which is known as our comprehensive transportation plan.

1656
02:15:59,920 --> 02:16:03,300
and other plans that the state approves.

1657
02:16:03,980 --> 02:16:08,540
And so, as you guys know that every sub-division,

1658
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:11,420
every site plan, every time we look at one of these projects,

1659
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:13,860
we have a corresponding map that's online,

1660
02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:16,340
that developers can look at, and that our staff

1661
02:16:16,340 --> 02:16:18,720
is constantly updating and modifying.

1662
02:16:19,160 --> 02:16:21,740
And so, as we go through this process,

1663
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:24,320
the state often will have different levels.

1664
02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:29,900
So the comprehensive plan is kind of the kind of the high level

1665
02:16:29,900 --> 02:16:34,840
this a road to go in this general area let's say right and then as you get down to the

1666
02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:43,440
step then that is a finer tuned list and funding mechanism and so the proposal that is in here

1667
02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:51,140
what that would allow us to do that who expand staff's ability to if we know there is a project or

1668
02:16:51,140 --> 02:16:58,280
a program that the state is working on that we can identify we can reference it and then specifically

1669
02:16:58,280 --> 02:17:04,480
require that on a plan. So if there's right of way that needs to be done and say the

1670
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:09,140
CTP just says, oh, it's somewhere in this general area, but then now that there's, there

1671
02:17:09,140 --> 02:17:16,020
might be an actual plan, we can go one level down, get very specific and that. So adding this

1672
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:23,000
language gives us more tools in the toolbox to be using all the things that are at our ability

1673
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:27,840
to be. To make sure the projects that we have the right of way that gets reserved is as accurate

1674
02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:30,860
and the precise as the informational else.

1675
02:17:32,020 --> 02:17:35,740
I have a question on that.

1676
02:17:35,780 --> 02:17:36,780
Yes, sir.

1677
02:17:37,900 --> 02:17:42,160
So when I read the

1678
02:17:44,460 --> 02:17:47,000
reserve of the part of such public way

1679
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:48,940
for street purposes and establishing

1680
02:17:48,940 --> 02:17:51,000
an appropriate building set back lines,

1681
02:17:51,180 --> 02:17:55,000
therefore consistent with what you're wanting to propose.

1682
02:17:57,790 --> 02:18:00,570
For all intents and purposes, the map act is dead.

1683
02:18:01,530 --> 02:18:08,070
And when you say, setting back all these, you know, 1,000 foot ramp, how is that going

1684
02:18:08,070 --> 02:18:08,650
to affect?

1685
02:18:09,310 --> 02:18:15,650
Because the DOT is also said that in the near future, which we all know that we don't know

1686
02:18:15,650 --> 02:18:16,830
what that means,

1687
02:18:18,850 --> 02:18:23,750
that North Carolina DOT is not going to approve anything that is outside

1688
02:18:23,750 --> 02:18:29,230
of what has already been set forth, as far as right ways,

1689
02:18:30,370 --> 02:18:32,770
how does this affect that?

1690
02:18:33,110 --> 02:18:35,070
Sure, I'll let you see a little speak to that.

1691
02:18:35,230 --> 02:18:36,530
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

1692
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:41,130
So the map typically applies to future corridor

1693
02:18:41,130 --> 02:18:43,330
that is identified for a new network.

1694
02:18:43,930 --> 02:18:45,850
What the CTP and what we're talking here

1695
02:18:45,850 --> 02:18:48,490
is for existing network within the city.

1696
02:18:48,690 --> 02:18:50,830
If there is a subdivision that comes through,

1697
02:18:51,050 --> 02:18:53,530
and let's say, for example, it's a 60-foot wide

1698
02:18:53,530 --> 02:18:59,890
way today. We're traveling on it, but future expansion requires a 80-foot right away. So what

1699
02:18:59,890 --> 02:19:05,310
this ordinance chains allows us is the ability to go back and require the private sector

1700
02:19:05,310 --> 02:19:11,490
to reserve that right away. So the map it does not impact this because that's typically

1701
02:19:12,290 --> 02:19:20,170
for a dotted line on the map. This is more than a dotted line. We had a real life situation

1702
02:19:20,170 --> 02:19:25,790
And when we reviewed a preliminary platform for duplex off of Union

1703
02:19:25,790 --> 02:19:30,350
Rev, the CTP dictated certain amount of right away.

1704
02:19:30,450 --> 02:19:31,950
I think it was 100 feet.

1705
02:19:32,610 --> 02:19:35,170
The applicant was willing to put 50 foot right away

1706
02:19:35,170 --> 02:19:37,150
from the center line towards their property,

1707
02:19:37,890 --> 02:19:42,990
but we also found out that NCDOT had a much more refined design

1708
02:19:43,570 --> 02:19:46,530
done through the step, which required

1709
02:19:46,530 --> 02:19:48,010
now a little bit more right away.

1710
02:19:48,010 --> 02:19:54,030
So, we ran into this legal dilemma because our ordinance doesn't really specify step.

1711
02:19:54,650 --> 02:19:58,470
The applicant started throwing legal tantrum with us.

1712
02:19:58,670 --> 02:20:02,510
So we had to go through this to make it clear, even though it was within our rights to

1713
02:20:02,510 --> 02:20:07,190
require it, because everything falls under CTP, we didn't want to go through that legal

1714
02:20:07,190 --> 02:20:07,670
trouble.

1715
02:20:08,290 --> 02:20:13,550
It would better off amending our ordinance clarifying it, setting that expectation clear

1716
02:20:13,550 --> 02:20:15,710
for the applicants, which is why we're doing this.

1717
02:20:15,710 --> 02:20:23,650
It was at the piece of property where the building got built, it was already built it and they had to go back and say take half your, that's not okay.

1718
02:20:23,830 --> 02:20:24,850
Joe shaking his head now.

1719
02:20:26,050 --> 02:20:28,330
It's one of the projects, but without naming the name.

1720
02:20:28,810 --> 02:20:29,510
Thank you, sir.

1721
02:20:30,370 --> 02:20:31,070
Any other questions?

1722
02:20:37,880 --> 02:20:49,100
I would like to state that the Planning Commission has reviewed these updates and text amendments and unanimously voted for their approval on their September meeting.

1723
02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:58,000
And staff is, thus find the request to be consistent with the 2025 comprehensive plan, as well as any other applicable

1724
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:00,800
duly adopted plans and is recommending approval.

1725
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:06,140
Can we have a motion to approve as presented?

1726
02:21:06,140 --> 02:21:15,800
We have a motion, we have a second, all those in favor.

1727
02:21:17,180 --> 02:21:23,220
If you need to make a motion to adopt the statement that the system seen in the

1728
02:21:23,800 --> 02:21:29,440
this ordinance is consistent with the Gastonia 2025 comprehensive plan and any

1729
02:21:29,440 --> 02:21:33,000
applicable do we adopt a small area of plans in this reasonable and in the

1730
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:36,800
public's interest. Thank you, ma'am.

1731
02:21:37,160 --> 02:21:40,020
So we have a motion. We have a second. All those in favor?

1732
02:21:41,180 --> 02:21:52,680
It's unanimous. Public hearing is closed. Next up is item J3. It's a public hearing for the

1733
02:21:52,680 --> 02:21:56,060
twenty-fifty comprehensive plan update, presenters,

1734
02:21:56,460 --> 02:21:58,920
Mr. Sue Seald and the Paul Plany Director.

1735
02:21:59,460 --> 02:22:01,940
This is a public hearing that will be opened

1736
02:22:01,940 --> 02:22:04,540
and has been requested to be continued

1737
02:22:04,540 --> 02:22:08,420
until the October 21st Council meeting.

1738
02:22:09,060 --> 02:22:13,120
I declare the public hearing open,

1739
02:22:13,880 --> 02:22:16,720
and can I have a motion to continue this

1740
02:22:16,720 --> 02:22:20,040
until the October 21st Council meeting.

1741
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:25,000
Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to

1742
02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:34,580
continue the public hearing until October 21, 2025 at that city council meeting.

1743
02:22:35,380 --> 02:22:36,040
We have a motion.

1744
02:22:36,200 --> 02:22:38,040
Do we have a second?

1745
02:22:38,140 --> 02:22:38,740
Second.

1746
02:22:38,920 --> 02:22:42,740
We have a second by Councilman Kasupius, all those in favor?

1747
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:55,380
Who's prepared to show you the website where he's located on for the public to be until that next week?

1748
02:22:55,380 --> 02:23:00,500
Yeah, the public hearing is continued as you noted for the October 21 meeting.

1749
02:23:01,020 --> 02:23:03,040
We had the draft plan on our website.

1750
02:23:03,180 --> 02:23:09,960
If you go to gastronia and see.gov on the front page, it's on the first banner that kind

1751
02:23:09,960 --> 02:23:11,080
of circulates on the website.

1752
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:14,700
You can click it as a flipbook, read through it.

1753
02:23:15,100 --> 02:23:20,580
We've also added a common form for public to go in, read the complaint and add their feedback.

1754
02:23:21,320 --> 02:23:25,180
We also posted on social media, actually there's quite a bit of feedback.

1755
02:23:25,180 --> 02:23:25,940
we're receiving.

1756
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:29,580
Not directly to the con plan, but everything else we're doing in the city.

1757
02:23:30,460 --> 02:23:36,700
In a way is a positive feedback because what I read through those comments was the desire

1758
02:23:36,700 --> 02:23:38,340
to have quality growth.

1759
02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:43,660
And I think the comprehensive plans set us to do that down the road.

1760
02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:46,620
So we'll continue to receive those feedbacks.

1761
02:23:46,660 --> 02:23:52,140
Thanks to all of you for meeting with us in small groups and sharing your feedback.

1762
02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:56,980
we're also in the process of printing some hard copies for you so you can review it

1763
02:23:56,980 --> 02:24:04,000
between now and their dops and meeting have to answer any questions you may have in

1764
02:24:05,780 --> 02:24:09,840
questions and thank you for printing that for us older folks who like to have hard

1765
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:19,200
copies so back we have a motion we have a second in the other discussion thank you

1766
02:24:20,940 --> 02:24:28,370
This makes sure everybody was on board here, didn't want to just make anybody upset.

1767
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:34,180
Public session is closed, public hearing is closed.

1768
02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:44,530
Well the public hearing is, yeah, continued, but for our part here it's closed.

1769
02:24:45,730 --> 02:24:51,450
Item J4, Citizens Committee appointment, our presenter will be Mr. Councilman Jim Gallagher.

1770
02:24:51,870 --> 02:24:55,130
I like to submit the name Cassandra Longerway.

1771
02:24:55,130 --> 02:25:01,130
She's already served on the Community Development Citizens Advisory Board and she has indicated

1772
02:25:01,130 --> 02:25:04,970
our willingness to continue and I put her name forward.

1773
02:25:05,750 --> 02:25:06,570
We have a motion.

1774
02:25:07,130 --> 02:25:08,190
Do we have a second?

1775
02:25:08,650 --> 02:25:13,290
We have a second by Councilwoman Little John, all those in favor of this appointment.

1776
02:25:14,110 --> 02:25:15,230
It's unanimous.

1777
02:25:22,820 --> 02:25:28,180
Did we want to go into closed session after we do all of our reports or do it now?

1778
02:25:29,080 --> 02:25:29,140
Okay.

1779
02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:31,580
Just want to make sure everybody's cool with that.

1780
02:25:31,580 --> 02:25:33,720
We'll have our city attorneys report.

1781
02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:38,880
As you said, Mayor, we're going to have a close session, so I'll save my updates for that close session.

1782
02:25:40,400 --> 02:25:41,500
City manager's report.

1783
02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:42,700
Thank you, Mayor.

1784
02:25:43,140 --> 02:25:43,680
Members of Council.

1785
02:25:45,400 --> 02:25:46,750
A few items for you.

1786
02:25:47,380 --> 02:25:51,120
I'll just go ahead and address the Leonard Road roundabout, and I'll believe

1787
02:25:51,780 --> 02:25:55,960
Tucker Johnson was able to talk to the few folks that attended the night.

1788
02:25:55,960 --> 02:26:02,700
And there's been a lot of conversation with the developer who has installed that traffic

1789
02:26:02,700 --> 02:26:08,680
calming device in right now is scheduled to remove and replace with something more

1790
02:26:08,680 --> 02:26:09,340
accommodating.

1791
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:17,320
So, hopefully those neighbors will be able to have a better, served, traffic calming device

1792
02:26:17,320 --> 02:26:18,280
on the Leonard Road.

1793
02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:25,680
So, we'll try to communicate that, but that was just this afternoon discussed with engineering

1794
02:26:26,940 --> 02:26:33,300
Another item for you that was sent to you electronically was the request for proposals for the

1795
02:26:33,300 --> 02:26:38,300
code whether shelter or warming center facility use in operational services.

1796
02:26:39,620 --> 02:26:41,400
This is out in the public.

1797
02:26:41,820 --> 02:26:49,060
It's due back to housing and community engagement department for at a September 26th that

1798
02:26:49,060 --> 02:26:49,960
to a clock.

1799
02:26:49,960 --> 02:26:57,940
First United Methodist Church voted September 2nd to not host the Cold Weather Shelter this year.

1800
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:18,120
So staff did a great job quickly, assembling along with input from our partners, this request for proposals, and that is out on the street right now for consideration and hopefully we'll come back to you after we were able to process those proposals as they're submitted.

1801
02:27:19,960 --> 02:27:30,460
to close out the cooling station, we'll bring this to your attention, and I will submit this to you in electronic form.

1802
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:34,920
There were nine days that the cooling station was operated indoors.

1803
02:27:35,060 --> 02:27:39,560
There were nine days that it was operated outdoors. There were 28 days that it was closed.

1804
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:45,760
Between July 15th and September 12th, I believe.

1805
02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:53,680
as whenever you had voted to continue through, total cost to operate into that being

1806
02:27:55,690 --> 02:28:06,410
16,400 dollars. So it is now finished and we are staff as moving forward with the adult

1807
02:28:06,410 --> 02:28:11,110
recreation center moving into one or seven south broad street and hopefully we'll have that

1808
02:28:11,110 --> 02:28:14,910
facility ready for the public very soon.

1809
02:28:19,490 --> 02:28:21,270
It's part of the AMI project.

1810
02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:29,730
If you do get calls from any of your constituents, we are actively doing the lead and copper inventory.

1811
02:28:30,370 --> 02:28:39,030
So there are folks out and about that are our contractors that are completing that lead and copper

1812
02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:41,710
inventory is required by the federal government.

1813
02:28:46,780 --> 02:28:52,920
Some good news today, Electric City's selected Dendria's, the middle for the fall radio ad campaign

1814
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:58,760
and we'll be running that here very shortly for free for the city of Gastonia so congratulations

1815
02:28:58,760 --> 02:28:59,840
to her.

1816
02:29:00,320 --> 02:29:08,200
I did send out some letters to the federal delegation about the CDVG and Home Funds and the

1817
02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:13,500
request would be for the Mayor to execute and submit to our federal delegation to try to

1818
02:29:13,500 --> 02:29:18,720
protect our CDVG and Home Funds and that is in concurrence with the unanimously approved

1819
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:26,600
advocacy agenda that you have in place, resurfacing is ongoing, we should be delivering three

1820
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:30,120
different greenway sections to you by the end of this year.

1821
02:29:30,480 --> 02:29:36,600
Highland Branch, Katava Creek, and Mary Edustrie, all of those projects have been going

1822
02:29:36,600 --> 02:29:41,560
for quite some time and we'll be great to get that into public use.

1823
02:29:42,300 --> 02:29:46,720
And then on another note, I guess to any of you goes peppers, have made the playoffs and that

1824
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:50,580
will be Saturday and Sundays at Timber 20th and 21st.

1825
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:54,980
So go out as you can to support the local team.

1826
02:29:55,480 --> 02:29:56,600
We have to answer any questions.

1827
02:29:58,200 --> 02:29:58,660
Any questions?

1828
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,140
Have you done? We'll start with Councilwoman Barbara.

1829
02:30:05,100 --> 02:30:14,220
Thank you, Mayor Franks. I am so excited that payment is happening in war at six. Finally we have

1830
02:30:14,220 --> 02:30:21,180
been patiently waiting, and there have been some areas that have been paid, but there was

1831
02:30:21,180 --> 02:30:27,160
one area that was just, woo, if I got one more call about someone's front alignment being

1832
02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:29,280
knocked out, coming down fifth avenue.

1833
02:30:29,940 --> 02:30:32,780
I thought I was scream, so I'm very excited

1834
02:30:32,780 --> 02:30:37,060
and appreciate the patience of our residents

1835
02:30:37,060 --> 02:30:42,460
along fifth avenue, West fifth avenue.

1836
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:48,840
And we're very thankful for being able to write on a smooth road.

1837
02:30:49,020 --> 02:30:50,300
We're looking forward to it.

1838
02:30:50,960 --> 02:30:53,580
What quite done, all the way done by the time I left this morning.

1839
02:30:53,580 --> 02:30:58,520
But once I, so we see, we see the light at the end of the tunnel,

1840
02:30:58,560 --> 02:30:59,720
just one to throw that in.

1841
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:05,780
Several bus attended settlers, several day of service,

1842
02:31:05,960 --> 02:31:09,620
they held that, they did not hold it on 9, 11,

1843
02:31:09,740 --> 02:31:12,820
but they had it on Friday, which was September 12th,

1844
02:31:12,960 --> 02:31:16,140
myself, Councilwoman Steph, Mayor Franks,

1845
02:31:16,140 --> 02:31:19,700
as well as Councilman Consupius attended,

1846
02:31:19,820 --> 02:31:22,500
and it was a great event.

1847
02:31:22,500 --> 02:31:27,940
It was lovely seeing the fifth graders of Sattler, Elementary, and everyone was so welcoming

1848
02:31:27,940 --> 02:31:35,660
and we certainly appreciated the honor that they gave to all of our public service staff,

1849
02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:38,500
not just for the city, but across the county.

1850
02:31:39,660 --> 02:31:48,220
So very thankful to the principal who invited us to come and be a part of that.

1851
02:31:48,220 --> 02:31:51,660
So we look forward to that perhaps if they do that again next year.

1852
02:31:52,480 --> 02:31:57,020
Also, it was mentioned earlier by someone in public expression.

1853
02:31:58,320 --> 02:32:02,600
I was able to attend the NAACP's Breaking Brady Bed,

1854
02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:05,900
which was a candidate for him held at the Pavilion.

1855
02:32:05,900 --> 02:32:08,740
It was a beautiful day for the event,

1856
02:32:09,020 --> 02:32:11,680
and I was really excited about the turnout.

1857
02:32:12,260 --> 02:32:15,680
Folks that came out to hear from all of our candidates,

1858
02:32:16,420 --> 02:32:19,220
not just for Gaston, but all across the county.

1859
02:32:19,220 --> 02:32:23,980
So that was, I believe the first event in their early events to follow.

1860
02:32:24,840 --> 02:32:27,480
So thankful for that opportunity.

1861
02:32:28,580 --> 02:32:33,000
And we heard earlier about the Gaston recovery walk

1862
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:35,440
that's taking place this Saturday, Irwin Center.

1863
02:32:35,800 --> 02:32:41,280
But there's also another opportunity, which I feel like is a critical event.

1864
02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:43,240
And I hope this is one of many.

1865
02:32:43,420 --> 02:32:44,740
It does say it's a series.

1866
02:32:44,740 --> 02:32:52,080
and that is the one pure one time fit no prevention intervention education series, much needed in our

1867
02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:58,760
community. That's going to be held this Saturday from 12 noon until 2 o'clock and I realize the time

1868
02:32:59,400 --> 02:33:07,860
complex but for anyone that may be listening to this or perhaps anyone that's in this room now that

1869
02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:09,600
It would be interested in that.

1870
02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:13,160
I feel like that is something we all

1871
02:33:13,720 --> 02:33:17,200
can benefit from learning more about the federal crisis

1872
02:33:17,200 --> 02:33:21,020
that is not only impacting communities across the nation,

1873
02:33:21,160 --> 02:33:24,160
but it is certainly impacting our community here locally.

1874
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:28,980
And that's going to be held at 5800 Union Road here in Gastonia.

1875
02:33:29,060 --> 02:33:32,940
There is a number that you can call if you'd like to register for that event.

1876
02:33:32,940 --> 02:33:38,860
And that number is 9804373842.

1877
02:33:39,220 --> 02:33:43,540
Again, it's called 1pil 1 time Fittinal Prevention,

1878
02:33:43,660 --> 02:33:46,000
Intervention Education Series.

1879
02:33:46,240 --> 02:33:52,240
The number again is 9804373842 if you are interested

1880
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:53,920
in registering for that event.

1881
02:33:54,100 --> 02:33:56,000
And that concludes my report.

1882
02:33:56,100 --> 02:33:56,800
Thank you.

1883
02:33:56,840 --> 02:33:58,540
Thank you, ma'am.

1884
02:33:58,540 --> 02:34:11,980
Um, no, this is actually, um, Stephanie Jackson, um, and the name of her, um, name of her

1885
02:34:11,980 --> 02:34:12,620
business.

1886
02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:13,980
I'm sorry.

1887
02:34:14,080 --> 02:34:16,180
I'd have to look it up.

1888
02:34:16,340 --> 02:34:19,360
I wrote everything down except that, um,

1889
02:34:22,650 --> 02:34:24,550
I want to say it's called pace.

1890
02:34:24,650 --> 02:34:31,270
I believe it's called pace services is the name of the, um, the organization.

1891
02:34:31,270 --> 02:34:37,630
the business that they do therapy in counseling, and they specialize in recovery and

1892
02:34:38,430 --> 02:34:44,930
mental health, behavioral health, alcohol, substance use disorders, and they're putting

1893
02:34:44,930 --> 02:34:46,130
on this event.

1894
02:34:48,930 --> 02:34:55,290
Madam Clerk, would you set the timer for three months for councilwoman steps if she doesn't

1895
02:34:55,290 --> 02:34:58,390
decide to take 10 minutes?

1896
02:34:58,390 --> 02:34:58,870
Okay.

1897
02:35:03,250 --> 02:35:04,490
How many years, man?

1898
02:35:04,690 --> 02:35:05,990
The school will start it up.

1899
02:35:06,050 --> 02:35:07,910
Weather's getting nicer, so lots of things are happening.

1900
02:35:08,510 --> 02:35:10,770
Attended the caffeine and conversation.

1901
02:35:11,830 --> 02:35:13,330
Councilman Cassipius was there.

1902
02:35:14,610 --> 02:35:16,750
We were at RyeCon, right across from City Hall.

1903
02:35:17,390 --> 02:35:23,050
We had some of the congressmen's Tim Moore's staff was there to talk about, twice they

1904
02:35:23,050 --> 02:35:28,150
can help locally with people and of course reports from our staff and others in the

1905
02:35:28,150 --> 02:35:29,010
downtown area.

1906
02:35:29,490 --> 02:35:34,630
have another one coming up up over the second that will be a little theater and it will be a candidate

1907
02:35:34,630 --> 02:35:38,410
form after the updates so that on your calendars it's 10 o'clock.

1908
02:35:39,330 --> 02:35:44,330
Went to the real time crime center ran opening. It's like something from movies we saw as a kid.

1909
02:35:44,630 --> 02:35:48,870
It's amazing. I think it's going to improve into crime dramatically.

1910
02:35:50,290 --> 02:35:53,110
So we're excited about that.

1911
02:35:53,790 --> 02:35:59,490
Kudos to Dr. Taylor and others for getting that done and thank you for Jeff Jackson for helping us get some funding for that

1912
02:36:00,130 --> 02:36:05,910
A lot of funding for that most of the funding for that get those pepper game. I'm employee E for appreciation day

1913
02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:07,930
I saw a lot of our boys out there that was a great time

1914
02:36:08,570 --> 02:36:10,130
also it did hope fast

1915
02:36:10,130 --> 02:36:16,770
Where we were doing things for those that are less fortunate homeless and making small which was an event

1916
02:36:16,770 --> 02:36:18,210
I was such a fun event

1917
02:36:18,210 --> 02:36:23,050
with a lot of our special abilities and neurodite

1918
02:36:23,050 --> 02:36:26,910
version population represented you all on the central

1919
02:36:26,910 --> 02:36:29,530
on executive committee went to the 9-11 service.

1920
02:36:29,810 --> 02:36:32,230
It's hard to put this been 24 years.

1921
02:36:32,590 --> 02:36:33,530
I was at station one.

1922
02:36:33,750 --> 02:36:37,970
I was a very humbling and somber, but good service.

1923
02:36:37,990 --> 02:36:39,770
Also I switched to some retired teachers,

1924
02:36:40,430 --> 02:36:42,490
several elementary, and then.

1925
02:36:42,570 --> 02:36:45,010
Friday night I worked the concession stand at Hunter House.

1926
02:36:45,010 --> 02:36:50,690
And I saw a couple of you there, I almost didn't think I was going to get up that next morning.

1927
02:36:50,830 --> 02:36:53,430
We didn't stop for hours, but it was good.

1928
02:36:53,710 --> 02:36:58,730
And then here that's how long and think, oh, how could that be so long ago that I was out there playing on that field?

1929
02:36:59,330 --> 02:37:00,830
But it was good to see people on our community.

1930
02:37:01,070 --> 02:37:05,410
And then of course, as many have mentioned, the NAACP event, a great inaugural event.

1931
02:37:05,610 --> 02:37:07,710
And I think it'll get bigger and better every year.

1932
02:37:07,870 --> 02:37:10,150
So thank you for them to them for doing that.

1933
02:37:10,450 --> 02:37:12,250
Quick, quick, quick little arts thing.

1934
02:37:12,250 --> 02:37:16,650
Art Guild visual official harvest shows happening right now September 15th through the October

1935
02:37:17,610 --> 02:37:22,250
10th and then the Gaston Concert Association has the limelighter system the 19th.

1936
02:37:23,470 --> 02:37:28,110
Courage you to buy tickets to the Gaston Concert Association. Some things coming up in October,

1937
02:37:28,510 --> 02:37:34,550
Gaston Dance is Autumn Gallo. She has the ways into the woods junior, the Banffall Concert,

1938
02:37:34,550 --> 02:37:38,830
Falk Concert from the Symphonic Man, and the Wolf Theatre's Little Shopper for her.

1939
02:37:38,830 --> 02:37:42,930
And then I would also encourage you to go downtown and to some of our other venues to watch

1940
02:37:42,930 --> 02:37:43,510
off music.

1941
02:37:43,710 --> 02:37:45,550
We have the rooster downtown.

1942
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:49,190
They have open micro night to Mara 7 Beth Gattlin.

1943
02:37:49,190 --> 02:37:53,530
It's going to be doing her single release the next day at the 18th at 6.

1944
02:37:53,830 --> 02:37:54,590
A clock.

1945
02:37:54,870 --> 02:38:00,050
Beerus for breakfast, which is not breakfast time unless you eat late, is the 19th at 7.30 p.m.

1946
02:38:00,590 --> 02:38:04,750
And then plush will be there on September the 20th at 7.30.

1947
02:38:04,750 --> 02:38:12,970
So get out and support our artist and our businesses that are trying to bring our to our city and that concludes my report.

1948
02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:14,170
Thank you, ma'am.

1949
02:38:14,390 --> 02:38:17,170
Who jumped in and helped you and froze their hands off?

1950
02:38:17,570 --> 02:38:21,690
The mayor did. He jumped in and he froze his hands off getting drinks out of the cooler.

1951
02:38:22,450 --> 02:38:23,730
Council on the little John.

1952
02:38:24,350 --> 02:38:25,130
And we won.

1953
02:38:25,650 --> 02:38:25,710
Thank you.

1954
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:27,730
Wonderful.

1955
02:38:29,050 --> 02:38:31,030
My report is very brief.

1956
02:38:31,030 --> 02:38:34,530
I want to give Kudos to Pastor Janice Mack,

1957
02:38:35,050 --> 02:38:39,780
power-word ministries that is located on and ward for.

1958
02:38:40,610 --> 02:38:44,370
She has come out to deliver meals from Smith-Sulfur,

1959
02:38:44,490 --> 02:38:47,750
Beastro to the homeless on Sundays.

1960
02:38:48,170 --> 02:38:52,470
That has been a tremendous help to help those

1961
02:38:52,470 --> 02:38:53,790
that are in need.

1962
02:38:54,050 --> 02:38:56,650
I had a unique experience on Sunday.

1963
02:38:56,910 --> 02:39:00,450
I know everybody up here was a part of the NAACP

1964
02:39:00,450 --> 02:39:07,310
breaking bread. It was so superb event. We'll attend it. On Saturday, I'm going to go back

1965
02:39:07,310 --> 02:39:14,290
in time, doing Rick Flair. I had the opportunity to meet the one and only Billy Gunn. We

1966
02:39:14,290 --> 02:39:22,430
had the United Pro-Restless, had an event in Gaston. We had about 418 people to come out and

1967
02:39:22,430 --> 02:39:24,990
really enjoy that event.

1968
02:39:25,530 --> 02:39:27,170
I heard a quick flick.

1969
02:39:27,550 --> 02:39:28,630
Yeah, I'll knock it up.

1970
02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:29,510
Here you go.

1971
02:39:29,650 --> 02:39:29,830
Call us.

1972
02:39:29,830 --> 02:39:31,090
I'll just think never answers.

1973
02:39:31,510 --> 02:39:32,090
That's it.

1974
02:39:32,090 --> 02:39:35,570
It was unique because I didn't realize how many people love wrestling.

1975
02:39:36,030 --> 02:39:39,470
And I want to say they showed up and showed out.

1976
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:44,630
Also this weekend on Saturday is Council wants Barbara.

1977
02:39:44,830 --> 02:39:45,070
I alluded.

1978
02:39:45,190 --> 02:39:47,750
We have two awesome events.

1979
02:39:47,910 --> 02:39:52,010
And I know Stephanie Jackson and that is a fentanyl crisis.

1980
02:39:52,010 --> 02:40:21,990
And I will say to anybody out there, this list that has a brick and mortar restaurant, the health department actually came in to give us information on fentanyl crisis, especially if you in an area that you see a lot of traffic and not just that but the, the Narcan, the Narcan, they gave us Narcan gave us, you know, flowers, I mean, flyers to put up in our restaurants, but the information, but the

1981
02:40:21,990 --> 02:40:25,190
in our can if we ever encounter anyone.

1982
02:40:25,330 --> 02:40:27,730
And we do have an epidemic in our community.

1983
02:40:28,350 --> 02:40:30,970
On that, the Gaston Recovery Walk, obviously,

1984
02:40:31,730 --> 02:40:34,850
this weekend as well, I will be attending that.

1985
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:37,090
Dr. Wanda received a proclamation.

1986
02:40:40,070 --> 02:40:41,630
Let's see what else.

1987
02:40:42,230 --> 02:40:46,690
The other, we have a young lady that is in Gaston County

1988
02:40:46,690 --> 02:40:49,130
schools that has been selected.

1989
02:40:49,130 --> 02:40:51,510
The number one basketball player in the state

1990
02:40:51,510 --> 02:41:01,410
North Carolina, and that is Miss Oshana Hollin, it goes to Cramer, do it Cramer High School,

1991
02:41:01,950 --> 02:41:06,690
and she has been playing some phenomenal basketball all summer long.

1992
02:41:06,950 --> 02:41:10,830
She has received full scholarship.

1993
02:41:11,030 --> 02:41:17,890
They have offered her full scholarship in Wake Forest University, and she is breaking records,

1994
02:41:17,890 --> 02:41:26,250
but she is an exceptional student athlete and has made our community especially the school system

1995
02:41:26,250 --> 02:41:34,870
look good, come from great family so we continue to cheer Oshana Hollin on to do great

1996
02:41:34,870 --> 02:41:42,530
thing and break a lot of other people's records this year and we have only because they told

1997
02:41:42,530 --> 02:41:47,710
to shout this out, I didn't go to Ashewood, but Ashebrook is playing South Point this weekend.

1998
02:41:48,350 --> 02:41:52,430
So the football coach just wanted me to shout that out. So y'all go out to the game.

1999
02:41:53,710 --> 02:41:55,090
South Point versus Ashebrook.

2000
02:41:56,910 --> 02:42:00,810
I think it's just a city manager, Adrian Miller, put you up to that.

2001
02:42:01,430 --> 02:42:03,590
No, he didn't. Councilman Gallagher.

2002
02:42:04,910 --> 02:42:08,530
Thanks, Mr. Mayor. First off, just want to say,

2003
02:42:08,530 --> 02:42:11,410
Once at a real-time crime center, got a coin.

2004
02:42:12,270 --> 02:42:16,530
Yay, it was real nice, Chief Bogdan and Tanya gave me a tour

2005
02:42:16,530 --> 02:42:17,650
and it gave me a shirt.

2006
02:42:17,970 --> 02:42:19,010
I don't know if you all got shirts,

2007
02:42:19,170 --> 02:42:20,950
but if you didn't get a shirt, you need to stop buying

2008
02:42:20,950 --> 02:42:21,670
and get one.

2009
02:42:22,250 --> 02:42:23,550
I don't know if they have your size.

2010
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:29,270
Oh, there, the meachie, wow.

2011
02:42:29,730 --> 02:42:32,790
Well, say, oh, they do, they do.

2012
02:42:33,050 --> 02:42:33,710
Chief said they do.

2013
02:42:34,110 --> 02:42:35,490
Okay, I got four things to go through.

2014
02:42:35,730 --> 02:42:38,510
That's one, two, oh, on the real-time crime center,

2015
02:42:38,510 --> 02:42:40,990
a crime center chief just want to find out.

2016
02:42:41,110 --> 02:42:44,490
When this kind of sky net becomes self-aware,

2017
02:42:45,650 --> 02:42:47,430
who knows, maybe self-aware now.

2018
02:42:50,210 --> 02:42:53,350
Two, I was up at up the New Jersey.

2019
02:42:53,410 --> 02:42:58,190
I went to the 9-11 Memorial up there,

2020
02:42:58,730 --> 02:43:00,430
and a friend of mine, Vinnie DeFazio,

2021
02:43:00,910 --> 02:43:03,670
he worked at Canterford's Gerald,

2022
02:43:04,250 --> 02:43:06,910
and he passed away, and he's one of the people

2023
02:43:06,910 --> 02:43:13,890
on that wall there. It really was a good guy with a college with a fun, fun, good man.

2024
02:43:15,310 --> 02:43:21,730
Next up, I went to C. Jessie Cole and a banana ball at Yankee Stadium.

2025
02:43:22,870 --> 02:43:29,830
It was fantastic. It was a great, great time. Now, I get a whole bunch of people coming up to me going,

2026
02:43:30,190 --> 02:43:36,670
boy, we missed out. We don't have Jessie. I said, excuse me. I said, what's going on?

2027
02:43:36,910 --> 02:43:40,390
at Savannah's stadium right now.

2028
02:43:40,650 --> 02:43:43,010
They go, well, I don't know, I said exactly nothing.

2029
02:43:44,090 --> 02:43:45,810
I said the only thing that's going to hold Jesse

2030
02:43:46,530 --> 02:43:50,450
is stadiums like Yankees Stadium or the NFL, you know,

2031
02:43:50,610 --> 02:43:53,970
the Panthers Stadium where they're selling out 70,000 seats.

2032
02:43:54,750 --> 02:43:55,910
I mean, it's incredible.

2033
02:43:57,470 --> 02:44:02,690
If he was here, there's no way it would even sell out.

2034
02:44:02,690 --> 02:44:05,390
I mean, he couldn't fit us.

2035
02:44:05,970 --> 02:44:07,390
He find a different venue.

2036
02:44:08,830 --> 02:44:12,610
So he cut his teeth here, and now he's big time,

2037
02:44:12,890 --> 02:44:14,530
and I think he's going to take it worldwide.

2038
02:44:15,030 --> 02:44:18,270
So we'll say, and I think you have a chance to talk to him.

2039
02:44:18,430 --> 02:44:20,330
So he's a great guy, humble man.

2040
02:44:22,070 --> 02:44:22,590
Also,

2041
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people, listen up.

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This is the most important message added.

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Anything you've heard today.

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out of anything you heard today. Free trash day is coming up starting Monday. That means

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your job this weekend is to clean out that garage and clean out that attic and get

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that stuff out to the curb and you're going to start on September 22nd. Be

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ready. All right and that's the end of my report. Mr. Mayor, thank you. Thank you.

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I

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forgot, like you said, the most important thing that we had downtown Gastonia.

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Sheelisius Smith did a huge beauty modeling gala at Gastonian Homes and it was well attended. It was awesome. It showcased it in how light it, jamco, Xena, all the beauty, you know, it's like a competition. A lot of the hairstyles, barbers, just fashion designers, she did an awesome job and she just got back this week.

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She also participated in New York Fashion Week, so she is a gift to the city of Gastonia downtown and is doing some phenomenal things.

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Before we get to Councilman Kasupius, he also sold out the stadium where the Red Sox played.

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All right, I'd like to say thank you to the NAACP for hosting in our city, the breaking

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bread event.

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I also want to say thank you to Carreli with the ACE program.

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She did a similar presentation at the Laurel East Community Watch, which was well attended.

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I also got a chance to be on the WebEx for safe streets traffic calming policy, so something

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You all can look forward to with traffic calming which brings me to the next point the Huntington Forest.

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Thank you to staff engineers Michael for getting quick responses back to me.

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I know that's a neighborhood in Ward 1 and they're concerned about it.

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So thank you for that update and getting on it so quickly.

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Thank you to our fire department for hosting the non-elev memorial.

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I went to station 4.

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And thank you to all of our public safety departments.

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And the last one, I was able to go to the

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royal family homestead.

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Openhouse is the oldest guest and county residents in the county.

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Great event, music, different vendors.

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The show museum was there.

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So it was great to attend.

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And that's all I have.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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I attended a lot of those events that they have spoken.

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but in experience, September 18, 2025, Gastonuconsert series, it's Petty Rewind at the Gastonuc

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Rotary Pavilion, starts six o'clock, September 20th, from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. it's habitat for

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you humanity rock, the block at Highland neighborhood, in the Highland neighborhood, September

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the 20th, 10 a.m. to 3, is a safe place in powerment network, Gaston recovery walk, September

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22nd is Councilman Gallagher said, go clean out your garage, go clean out your building,

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go clean out your attic, September 22nd through the 26th free bolt trash pickup.

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September 24th at 10 AM at 3840 West Franklin Board Boulevard will be the Gastonia ABC

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groundbreaking for the new store, September 25th at 6 p.m. is the Habitat for Humanity

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Gaston Gala at the Gaston Country Club.

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Also for everybody out there, this is a yearly event.

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Is September 26th and 27th, there will be the black gold

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mulch cells.

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That will be a 3100 Duke Street.

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It'll be Friday from 1 to 5 Saturday from 8 a.m.

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to 12 p.m.

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September 27th at 8 to 10 a.m.

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Is a Firewood Cell at Ferguson Park.

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that is 1401 golf course drive.

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September the 29th is our City Hall at City Hall

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will be the Arts Committee meeting.

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That will begin at 530.

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September the 30th, that 530 Central City

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revitalization and housing community engagement committee

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will meet at this mental conference room.

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October the 7th at first assembly of God 777 South

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Murdoch School Road will be the National Night out.

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We have a meeting at City Hall, October the 7th, October the 12th, is Faith and Blue

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Unity March.

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Closing ceremony will be at Caramont, Health Park, and that will be from 5 to 6.30.

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And I will entertain a motion to go into closed session.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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on is we're going to close that ship for Sue and DeSection 143-318.1183 of the North Carolina General Statutes,

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in order to preserve or turn it high privilege and give instructions to our city attorney concerning

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to adjourn. Have a motion, have a second. Have a second. Have a second by Councilman Barber, all those in favour?

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It's unanimous.