1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Hello and welcome to the Glendale City Council meeting. As a courtesy to others, please silence all phones. The citizens of Glendale are represented by a seven-member council. Mayor Jerry Wires. 2 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Vice Mayor Ian Hugh of the Cactus District. Councilmember Gary Sherwood of the Soworo District. Councilmember Samuel Tavira of the Yucca District. Councilmember Jamie Aldama of the Occatio District. Councilmember Lauren Tomachof of the Choya District. 3 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Councilmember Bart Turner of the Barrel District. Agendas, speaker cards and printed guidelines for citizen comments are located on a table at the back of the room. 4 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:04,000 If you would like to address the council on a matter which is on the agenda for this evening, please complete a gold speaker card. Comments will be limited to five minutes in length. 5 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:16,000 If you would like to address the council on a matter which is not on the agenda for this evening, please complete a blue speaker card. Comments will be limited to three minutes in length. 6 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:28,000 After you have completed the speaker cards, please place it in the basket located on the table. If you prefer, you may give it to the security officer or police officer standing near the area. 7 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:35,000 The officer will bring all speaker cards to the city clerk. The speaker's name will then be called at the appropriate time. 8 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Please refer to the printed guidelines for citizen comments. These guidelines have been approved by the council and will be followed in receiving comments. 9 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Thank you for your interest and your participation in the City of Glendale. 10 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Good evening. Welcome to the City of Glendale Council Special Meeting of June 10, 2015. 11 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:08,000 This meeting is called the order. If everyone is able if you please stand join with me in the pledge of allegiance. Gentlemen, if you are in hats, please remove them. 12 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. 13 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:22,000 One nation under God, the indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. 14 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:32,000 If you'd stand, please remain standing. Reverend Mopin, if you'd come up and give her an occasion, please. 15 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Understood, sir. There you go. 16 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Let us pray. Almighty God, we come into your presence this afternoon asking you to be with the people and the leadership of Glendale. 17 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:53,000 God, we give you thanks for this country. We give you thanks for our law enforcement officers and our first responders and all that seek to serve the people. 18 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:59,000 And God, we thank you for this democracy, for a chance for the public to participate and for leaders to listen. 19 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:06,000 We ask you to guide their hands as they lead our city and do what's best for the people, the least and those most in need. 20 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:17,000 We ask this in the name of Jesus Christ, your son, our Savior. Amen. Amen. Thank you. 21 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Okay. With that, the first thing we're going to do is citizens' comments. First on the agenda is the citizens' comments. 22 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Council makes this opportunity available to citizens to bring information and business before the council. 23 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Okay. Listen carefully now that it is not on the print agenda. 24 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:40,000 The council can only act on the matters that are on the print agenda but may refer the matter to the city manager for follow-up. 25 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 I only have one blue card that is not on the agenda. 26 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,000 So that's Arthur Leroy, Thurston, Arthur, come on up here. 27 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,000 And then we'll get everybody else's comments once we get to that point. Thank you. 28 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:07,000 My name is Arthur Leroy Thurston. I reside in the cactus district. 29 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:13,000 If the vice mayor here is our council member. 30 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:20,000 We had the pledge of allegiance. We had the opening of the meeting and we had a prayer. 31 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,000 And very nice when it's at and I really appreciate all those activities. 32 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:32,000 When I came today is just to say that we have a new council for this year. 33 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,000 We have some old faces here tonight and we have some new faces here tonight. 34 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:47,000 And I want to say that I ask and I'm sure that you people will be welcome to our town of the city of Glendale in all respects. 35 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:58,000 And we were treat you the utmost business and fair play across the board and complete an absolute transparency in everything that we do. 36 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,000 And that I think is one of the the feelings of the city council that's here tonight. 37 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:10,000 And I want to ask the people that are here to respond accordingly and act accordingly. 38 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:18,000 And I would like to be the person I didn't pray with the prayer. I didn't play I pledge allegiance with allegiance. 39 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,000 But I would like to be the person that welcomes you all and may you enjoy your evening. 40 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Thank you sir. 41 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Okay. With that if you do want to speak again once we get to that point we're not there yet but once we get to that point. 42 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Please fill out a card but we're not going to be taking and calling your name by cards. We're going to have everybody get into a line and we'll start at one hour at that point. So make sure you fill out a card if you plan on speaking tonight. 43 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Okay. New business. Mr. Bauer is going to introduce a number one in place. 44 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Mayor. 45 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 If I may. 46 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 You may. 47 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Thank you may. 48 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 You don't have to holler but I can hear you. 49 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Thank you. Mayor. 50 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Mayor. I'd like to make a motion tonight before we get started. 51 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Mayor. 52 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 I'll entertain your motion. 53 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Thank you. Mayor. I appreciate it. Mayor. 54 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I motion that that we table this item for a period no longer than two weeks. 55 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:21,000 And that we authorized staff to put together a team that can reach out to the coyotes organization mayor. 56 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 And come to a resolution for no longer than two weeks. 57 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:32,000 And that I asked and that we asked staff to immediately take charge of that as early as tonight. 58 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 And as early as tomorrow morning. 59 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Mayor that is my motion. 60 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 And Mayor and I'm also willing to forego. 61 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Conversation on that until the entire meeting is heard so long as my motion is considered and voted on prior to anything else. 62 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Mayor. 63 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Thank you. 64 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Okay we do have a motion and we have a second any discussion on that motion. 65 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Seeing none. 66 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 If you're in favor of that motion please vote aye. 67 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Aye. 68 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 If you're opposed that motion please vote nay. 69 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000 No. 70 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Okay. 71 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:11,000 The chair is undecided if you are in favor of that motion please hold your hands up. 72 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 We have a phone. 73 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Is there anyone on the phone? 74 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Mr. Sherwood. 75 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Are you on the phone? 76 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Okay. 77 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,000 You can put your hands down. 78 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 All opposed to that motion please hold your hands up. 79 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Okay. 80 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 The decision is your motion. 81 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Failure. 82 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Thank you. 83 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Okay. 84 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 What's that Mr. Bauer? 85 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Could you please introduce item number one. 86 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Yes. 87 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Mayor members of the council. 88 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Item number one is 15 dash four seven zero. 89 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:45,000 It's discussion and possible action to direct the city manager and city attorney to cancel the professional. 90 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:51,000 The management services and arena lease agreement between the city of Glendale and ice 91 00:07:51,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Arizona manager company LLC and ice Arizona hockey company LLC pursuant to Arizona revised statutes section 92 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:12,000 38 dash 511 and to pursue any and all other legal actions and remedies necessary to effectuate cancellation or termination of the agreement. 93 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Thank you Mr. Bauer. 94 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Thank you Mayor and council members. 95 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:26,000 You've asked me for a summary this evening of the the key legal points regarding the possible termination of the contract between the city of Glendale and the 96 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Eres on the coyotes. 97 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Sometimes the best way to approach a complicated issue such as this is to simply read directly from the statute. 98 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:41,000 And the language that is contained in the statute is an ambiguous and I'd like to read it for you. 99 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:47,000 The state it's political subdivisions or any department or agency of either may. 100 00:08:47,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Within three years after its execution cancel any contract without penalty or further obligation made by the state it's political subdivisions or any of the departments or agencies of either. 101 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:09,000 If any person significantly involved in initiating negotiating, securing, drafting or creating the contract on behalf of the state. 102 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:17,000 It's political subdivisions or any of the departments or agencies of either is at any time while the contract. 103 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Or any extension of the contract is in effect an employee or an agent of any other party to the contract in any capacity or a consultant to any other party of the contract with respect to the subject matter of the contract. 104 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:39,000 My office has sought opinions and counsel from numerous experts on the language and interpretation of this statute. 105 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,000 It has been a thorough examination of the lie in the facts. 106 00:09:43,000 --> 00:10:00,000 The facts support a conclusion should you make it this evening that this state law was violated when former employees who now work for the coyotes also heavily influenced and quietly assisted in the final negotiations of the contract. 107 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,000 That is the reason why you're here tonight. 108 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:14,000 As elected members of the council whose obligation and duties to protect the Glendale citizens and taxpayers, you have the right to terminate this contract. 109 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:26,000 If you believe the former employees violated the public trust and the result was a contract that is opposite of the usual goal and a public private partnership. 110 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Normally these partnerships are weighted so that they are both a win win for the private entity as well as the taxpayers. 111 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:41,000 While this issue regarding former employees behavior just recently came to our attention, you are also aware that the city has persistently requested a renegotiation of the agreement terms. 112 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Glendale under the existing deal is obligated to pay the coyotes $15 million a year. 113 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 That money is supposed to be allocated for a renegagement. 114 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,000 It is not supposed to be used for ownership's debt retirement. 115 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:01,000 The city has challenged the use of those funds and the team claims to have made budget and financing adjustments to meet our requirements. 116 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Glendale has a proven record as an exceptional public partner for projects that benefit the growth and the quality of life here. 117 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Among other events the city and the city has and continues to be honored as the host of two super bulls, 118 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,000 bull championships series and the municipal host to the Arizona Cardinals. 119 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,000 This particular partnership in the opinion of many experts has benefited only one partner the Arizona coyotes. 120 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:36,000 For many reasons however the city is trying to secure a new contract with the team because for you the issues are not about hockey or winning seasons. 121 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:43,000 The real issue is about the protection of the citizens, taxpayers and other city corporate partners. 122 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:54,000 If they can simply simply its face value that an employee may not be involved with initiating negotiating, securing, drafting or creating the contract on behalf of the state. 123 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:05,000 If that employee is, and I'm quoting the statute, an employer agent of any other party to the contract in any capacity or a consultant to any other party. 124 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Bottom line the law was designed to protect taxpayers from an employee who may have a dual relationship from negotiating contracts. 125 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Our office is determined that you do have a right to vote on this issue because the state law is very clear. 126 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,000 It was put in place to prevent a dishonest business deal. 127 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 It is your decision about this particular contract. 128 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Your decision depends on your interpretation of the law, your evaluation of the evidence and your fiduciary responsibility to the citizens of Glendale. 129 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 I'm available for questions. 130 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Thank you, Mr. Bailey. 131 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Weichner. 132 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Mayor, I'd like to make a motion. 133 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,000 I move to direct the city manager and city attorney to counsel the professional management services and 134 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:56,000 arena lease agreement between the city of Glendale and I sir is on a managing company LLC and I sir is on a hockey company LLC. 135 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:05,000 I assume to Arizona revise statutes 38-511 and to pursue any and all other legal actions and remedies necessary to 136 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,000 fluctuate cancellation or termination of the agreement. 137 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:24,000 I have a motion from the vice mayor of second from Councilmember Kerner discussion on that motion. 138 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Well, we do have several people here that would like to speak. 139 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,000 So what I would ask everyone to do if you would like to speak on this issue. 140 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Formaline right here. 141 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:45,000 One single line we're going to start with Mr. Wood's, Nick Wood's representing the coyotes franchise and then immediately after him. 142 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,000 We're going to ask Anthony little block to speak and then from there. 143 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,000 I'll give it up to all the citizens that would like to speak again. 144 00:13:53,000 --> 00:14:01,000 If you hear something said that you were going to say, so everybody has an opportunity to have a voice and we get as much information as possible. 145 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:07,000 If you feel someone else that said what you're going to say then maybe you at your choice, you can stand down and let someone else speak. 146 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Maybe they have something to add to it. 147 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:17,000 So Mr. Wood's, if you would please. 148 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, my name is Nick Wood, I'm with a law from a snow and warmer. 149 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,000 My address is one Arizona Center Phoenix. 150 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Better. 151 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,000 It's one Arizona Center Phoenix and I represent the Phoenix coyotes. 152 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,000 A little more than 24 hours ago, my client was given notice of this hearing. 153 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Five minutes later, he called me and I'm on vacation. 154 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:47,000 So I was not in my office and I had less than 24 hours to try and be prepared for this hearing. 155 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:53,000 To try and get my arms around what you're trying to do, the rationale behind what you're trying to do, 156 00:14:53,000 --> 00:15:00,000 and whether or not my client has any risk and what the potential risk is. 157 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:16,000 For the city of Glendale. So I'll do the best that I can in trying to explain that. Then hopefully you'll step away from the cliff tonight and not take the action that was just moved and seconded. 158 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Almost two years ago to the day, I spent an entire month of June and entire month of July negotiating this deal. 159 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Mr. Bowers and I got to know each other a lot better than we ever thought or hoped we would, as well as Mr. Gary Brumbaum. 160 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:40,000 We were talking to each other sometimes multiple times a day. We had meetings more often than I can count. 161 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:50,000 And from June 2nd until July 2nd, we were talking to each other sometimes in the middle of night and Dick was in part in California. 162 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:58,000 And I felt bad, bothering him, but we worked our tails off to put an agreement together to present to this council. 163 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,000 And this council approved that agreement by a vote of 4 to 3. 164 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Then we spent the entire month of July actually reducing that agreement to written form. 165 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,000 We had been negotiating in the document itself, but of course we had to put the final items on it and close the deal. 166 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,000 So there was a lot of effort that went into it, particularly with respect to the negotiations. 167 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:26,000 And I was very proud of that agreement because I believe that it was fair. 168 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 It was entered into through fair and equitable negotiations. 169 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 And it was an agreement where nobody received everything that they wanted. 170 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:42,000 But everybody won, including the City Glendale, including the Glendale taxpayers, 171 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,000 including the folks at Westgate, including my client. 172 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,000 And when Anthony told me about this hearing tonight, I just scratched my head. 173 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,000 I'll be very honest with you. 174 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:06,000 I've been very relaxed, surprised and disturbed by what you're trying to do. 175 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 When you make promises, you keep your promises. 176 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 My parents raised me that way. 177 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 And that's what we did. 178 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 We negotiated these things. 179 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 We negotiated these things in good faith. 180 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,000 And for life of me, I don't understand why the city has been trying 181 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,000 for some time now to avoid those promises. 182 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,000 You know, Phil Lieberman, a former council member. 183 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,000 And I don't know how much affiliation he had with the city when he did this, 184 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 but he filed a bar complaint against Craig Tinto. 185 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Because Craig Tinto left the employment of the city in early 2013. 186 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 And suddenly to a severance agreement, 187 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 that was negotiated between Craig Tinto and the city Glendale. 188 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 But he was gone. He was no longer employee. 189 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 So there's a bar complaint filed against him playing 190 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:58,000 that there's rules of violations of the rules of ethics, violations of the rules of conflicts, etc. 191 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:04,000 A state bar association looked at that situation and found that there was no merit to the claim. 192 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 There's no wrongdoing. 193 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Then, not too long ago, the city accused several council members on the view here tonight 194 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,000 of violating open meeting loss. 195 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 And of course the AG did an investigation. 196 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 The AG found that there was no wrongdoing. 197 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,000 And again, it was an attempt by this council to try and undo 198 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 that agreement that was negotiated in good faith. 199 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 And now, here we are. 200 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,000 With a claim that I'm scratching my head. 201 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 I don't know where your legal advice is coming from. 202 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 You hire your own lawyers. 203 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 By the time I'm here tonight, I'm going to suggest you get another opinion before you take this vote. 204 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Because you have no claim. 205 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 I mean, think about it. 206 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:52,000 I think to invoke ARS 38511, the cancel of professional management service agreements. 207 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,000 And you're ignoring the language of the statute. 208 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,000 You know, Craig Tindall was not an employee of the city of Glendale 209 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,000 when he sent this infamous email to three of the council members. 210 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,000 And he sent it June 26. 211 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Now, we've already negotiated a hundred-page document 212 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,000 and it was approved by this council five days later. 213 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 So it's a suggest that he violated statute number one. 214 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Ignore the fact that he wasn't an employee of the city of Glendale. 215 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Ignore the fact that he certainly didn't have substantial participation in anything 216 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 even if he had been an employee. 217 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 All right. 218 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,000 So that fact alone makes me wonder why you would want to put 219 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000 the city at risk for what would happen or what will happen tomorrow. 220 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,000 If in fact, this motion is approved. 221 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,000 The other thing is, you ignore your own legal advice 222 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 and the service agreement. 223 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,000 In the seventh agreement, the paragraph six page two, the city wave 224 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 all conflicts of interest against Craig Tindall. 225 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 So not a claim that somehow Craig Tindall is violated 226 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,000 some conflict of interest statutes, some conflict of interest rule, 227 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 is outrageous. 228 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Absolutely outrageous, particularly since you waived it. 229 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:16,000 And now that's what you're glowing onto in an attempt to set aside this contract. 230 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:22,000 It is an abusive discretion on your part if you do this. 231 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 And, you know, what's the motivation? 232 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 I don't understand. 233 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 The reputation of the city of Glendale has been 234 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 that you don't treat your partners as partners. 235 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 You are aggressive. 236 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 You deal with them aggressively. 237 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 And this is just a typical example. 238 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 There are no deficiencies in the contract. 239 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 There are none. 240 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Again, negotiating good faith. 241 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:50,000 And yet, you're going to vilify a man who many people respect. 242 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 You are assassinating his character. 243 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000 And you're using a character assassination as a means for 244 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,000 walking away from a legal obligation that you as a city have. 245 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 You as a city agreed to. 246 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 And you as a city signed on to. 247 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Promises made. 248 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Promises kept. 249 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000 So what happens, right? 250 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 If you act on this tonight, right? 251 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Tomorrow, the litigators go to work. 252 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,000 There will be claims against a city in excess of $200 million. 253 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 And that's just under the contract. 254 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,000 In addition to that, the damage to the reputation and the brand 255 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,000 of the things coyotes will be irreparable. 256 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,000 The damage to the brand and reputation of the NHL 257 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 will be irreparable. 258 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,000 They're not going to simply stand badly by and allow that to happen. 259 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000 So the basis for your claim is spacious and best. 260 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 It's laughable. 261 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 There is no basis for it. 262 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,000 If you really believe in your heart that a judge is going to 263 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 basically kill a deal. 264 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 All right, this two years old. 265 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 That's 13 years remaining on it. 266 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,000 That requires a $15 million year payment for an NHL franchise 267 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,000 to play in an arena that was built for when we negotiated 268 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,000 based upon an email from a former employee 269 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,000 the three council members giving them some information 270 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 of all deals. 271 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Then, you know, you're making the terrible, terrible mistake. 272 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 And there's no coming back from that prank. 273 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Absolutely no coming back from that prank. 274 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,000 So if you decide tonight to go forward. 275 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 You will lose. 276 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 You will lose this case. 277 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 And it's going to cost the taxpayers with this city. 278 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Hundreds of millions of dollars to get through it. 279 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,000 And what about the reputation for the city of Glundale? 280 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 You know, my firm, we represent Fortune 500 companies. 281 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000 I can tell you, all right, that I've received calls from a number of them 282 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 telling me that, is this real? 283 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Okay? 284 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Because I've seen my name in the paper today. 285 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Is this real? 286 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Is this city actually going to enter into an agreement with one of its most 287 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 importance corporate citizens? 288 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000 And basically, renegade agreement. 289 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Based upon some illusory email from some former employee. 290 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Okay? 291 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,000 I mean, why would any major company want to do business with Glundale ever again? 292 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Okay? 293 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000 You wouldn't. 294 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,000 I mean, if you're going to do business with someone who walks away from deals like that. 295 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Based upon nothing more than, you know, an allegation. 296 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,000 A personal attack on an individual. 297 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 You wouldn't do business with them. 298 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000 Okay? 299 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Not now. 300 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Not ever. 301 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:42,000 The other thing is, and lastly, I don't want to wrap up. 302 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 What about the time? 303 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:50,000 You know, you all knew that Craig Tindall was hired by the coyotes as a general counsel and 304 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 September of 2013. 305 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Okay? 306 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 That was 18 months ago. 307 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Yet, you sat on it. 308 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 You didn't do anything. 309 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000 You didn't take any action. 310 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,000 It decided to let the coyotes go ahead and you sit back and see how they performed. 311 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Okay? 312 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000 We're going to sit back and say, okay? 313 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 We're not going to bring this up. 314 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,000 You know, we may or may not have a claim, but, you know, you knew you didn't. 315 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000 And then you figured, well, boy, this year we lost six million dollars. 316 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Well, one of the things that bothers me about the six million dollar number. 317 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Aside from the fact that you sat on this for 18 months and didn't do anything. 318 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:31,000 But, you know, you never talked about the fact that the RFP is that you accepted just before we negotiated 319 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,000 this agreement from several respondents to the RFP. 320 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,000 We're going to charge the city anywhere from six million to seven million dollars to manage that arena. 321 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Of course, they wouldn't bring 41 game nights because, you know, the coyotes would not have been there. 322 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000 But, you don't factor that into your calculus. 323 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,000 So, when you say that you're losing six million dollars, that's just the fallacy. 324 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Okay? 325 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,000 It's a joke, because you would also have written a check, okay, for six million dollars, 326 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,000 to whatever this perver was, and you would have not have had the team nights in the income and all the other things 327 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,000 that are in this particular agreement. 328 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,000 And then what happens to our friends at Westgate? 329 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,000 When we negotiate in this deal, we heard and you heard, those of you who are on the council at the time, 330 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:22,000 from all of those people, scared the death that they're going to go out of business. 331 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:29,000 And, and if you don't think that that is a very likely possibility, it is. 332 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000 So, again, thank you for the time. 333 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 I apologize for my long-winded response. 334 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 I only had 24 hours to try and figure out how to respond to this. 335 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000 But, but I implore you. 336 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,000 And, and without the respect I warn you, this will be one of the, 337 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,000 if not the biggest mistake, one of the, if not one of the biggest mistake, 338 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,000 the biggest mistake that you ever make as a member of this council, 339 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 if you decide to go forward with this action tonight. 340 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 I truly recommend you get a second opinion. 341 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000 I truly recommend that you sleep on this because if you go forward, 342 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,000 there is no turning back because the damage will have been done. 343 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000 There is no sitting down later to try and renegotiate the deal, 344 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,000 because the damage to the brand damage to the NHL, 345 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000 okay, is it will be irreversible. 346 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000 So, if your idea is, yeah, we're going to take this action, 347 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000 and then we'll force them to the tables. 348 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 We can renegotiate this deal, not going to happen. 349 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000 It's not going to happen because it can't happen. 350 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,000 So, is that again, thank you for your time. 351 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Thank you, Mr. Roy. 352 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Thank you, Mr. Roy. 353 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000 It's my client, Mr. Libon. 354 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Mr. Libon. 355 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Mr. Libon. 356 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,000 There we go. 357 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Thank you Mr. Libon. 358 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Thank you Mr. Mayor. 359 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Thank you, members of council. 360 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Good evening. 361 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 I come here with candid feedback for you, 362 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,000 and for the taxpayers of the lovely city of Guandell. 363 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 This council has started a process 364 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,000 that has already had significance, 365 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000 negative impact on the business of the Arizona coyotes. 366 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 And the action you are contemplating that you've just said in 367 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Demotion tonight is, as my council indicated to you, 368 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 it will not prevail in court. 369 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,000 It certainly is not ethical in the court of public opinion, 370 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000 and it is not helpful to the cause of a partnership 371 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000 that is less than two years old. 372 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Mayor Wires, I heard you earlier today. 373 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000 You said you want the coyotes to stay. 374 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,000 But in a way that is beneficial to both the coyotes and the city. 375 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,000 If you would allow yourself and all members of council allow yourself 376 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000 to view the facts realistically, 377 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,000 you will see that the current situation is already more beneficial 378 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000 to the city of Guandell than original projections 379 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,000 in forecasts of less than two years ago. 380 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000 We ask yourselves, member of council, 381 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 and the good taxpayers of the city of Guandell, 382 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000 to focus purely on the empirical facts, 383 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 not on the, and I say this with all due respect, 384 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 political, grandstanding, we are now witnessing. 385 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,000 The city receives a tremendous amount of revenues from the coyotes, 386 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000 and our arena operation currently, 387 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,000 for the first nine months of the current fiscal year, 388 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000 nine months, not a full fiscal year we're talking about, 389 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000 the cities receive the following revenues from the coyotes, 390 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 nine hundred and five thousand dollars from parking, 391 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 five hundred thousand dollars from rent, 392 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,000 three hundred and fifty thousand from your portion of the naming rights agreement, 393 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000 we recently struck with the heel of river Indian tribe. 394 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Next year that goes up to four hundred and twenty thousand 395 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000 because it will be a full year, this year is pro-rated, 396 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 and there is a possibility to go as high as six hundred thousand, 397 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000 as we have discussed within administration last year. 398 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Five hundred and twenty two thousand for reimburse public safety, 399 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,000 two point eight million dollars from ticket surcharges, 400 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,000 one point five million dollars from direct sales tax from the coyotes, 401 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,000 and as a side note, sales tax revenue is never included 402 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,000 in disclosure from the city regarding revenues with the coyotes. 403 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Someone akin to a waiter who doesn't disclose the revenue 404 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000 from his or her tips to the IRS. 405 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000 These all add up to more than six point five million dollars 406 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 in direct revenues from the coyotes, 407 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 and this does not include the final quarter that we are in now, 408 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 which includes multiple concerts. 409 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000 This also does not include the increase in sales taxes 410 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 from the Westgate entertainment district. 411 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Based upon the six hundred thousand people that come to the arena every year, 412 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,000 we estimate very conservatively to bring in an additional two point five million 413 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000 dollars in revenue to the city via sales taxes from Westgate patrons 414 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 that otherwise would not be visiting Westgate. 415 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Bringing the total benefit to the city of over nine million dollars 416 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,000 this year from the coyotes to the city with a quarter left to go. 417 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000 So far during this fiscal year, 418 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000 which as I said ends at the end of this month. 419 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,000 We are already $1 million greater in revenue, additional revenues, back to the city of Glendale, compared 420 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 to the last fiscal year. And this is occurred in the season, and I say this with all due respect 421 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,000 to our general manager, Don Maloney, who's in the room, wasn't our best year on the ice. 422 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:20,000 And therefore didn't get the full revenues we had hoped to get from the hockey operations. 423 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Therefore, today, while we continue to grow our business with one full quarter left to finish 424 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,000 in regards to reporting, the net cost to the city to operate the arena is less than $6 million per year, 425 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,000 which is less than the city had budgeted two years ago as my council indicated. 426 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Mayor Wires, members of council, how is this not beneficial today to the city of Glendale? 427 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,000 This also does not include the capital expenditures into the arena that comes directly from ownership. 428 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Last year, we spent over $2 million in improvements to our food and beverage offerings, 429 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,000 and improvements to our clubs, not to mention improvements to our locker room in hockey areas. 430 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:06,000 This offseason, we will spend an additional $2 million plus in technology expenditures, including Wi-Fi in the arena, 431 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,000 for all guests to enjoy beginning this coming season, enhancing the experience of the arena. 432 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,000 We explained these numbers to everyone and most importantly to the taxpayers of the city of Glendale, 433 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:26,000 because it is important for everyone to understand that the coyotes are a positive economic driver for the city's economy. 434 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:34,000 The actions of this council over the past 48 hours have been highly detrimental to the business we are operating. 435 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:44,000 We have been advised by several of our partners that they wish to understand their options based upon the uncertainty that has been set in motion exclusively because of this body. 436 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:53,000 One example, I just want to outline one example to you, is our potential to host an internationalized hockey Federation world junior championship in 2018. 437 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:59,000 We have been working very closely with USA hockey and our partners regarding a bid that the coyotes are putting together. 438 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:08,000 We have represented this from some of the Westgate hotels here this evening, whom we have been planning hundreds of hotel rooms for two weeks and December of 2017, 439 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,000 and weeks of first week of January 18, just for the participating teams. 440 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:19,000 This does not include the thousands and thousands of visitors that would have come to the region for the tournament. 441 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,000 While we are not guaranteed that we would have landed the tournament, we were working very closely with our partners, 442 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000 we felt our chances were substantial. 443 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:33,000 This council's actions have unfortunately guaranteed us that we will not host that tournament. 444 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:41,000 An opportunity, an opportunity worth several million dollars for the team, but tens of millions of dollars for the city of Glendale. 445 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,000 It's disappeared before it was even an opportunity. 446 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:54,000 The city's actions have severely tarnished the image of this community to any outside group to potential sponsors, customers, or business partners. 447 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:03,000 The city of Glendale signed a 15-year agreement less than two years ago and is now trying strong arm threats and tactics to forces to renegotiate. 448 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:10,000 This is unfortunate due to the realities I've earlier explained regarding the positive impacts to the city and the benefits from their relationship. 449 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Now specifically, Mayor Wires, Vice Mayor Hugh, City Attorney Bailey, City Manager Bowers. 450 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,000 We had a candid discussion 48 hours ago, 48 hours ago. 451 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,000 You asked us to renegotiate the lease, just a point of order off my script. 452 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,000 There's a statement today that says we have been working for months to renegotiate the lease. 453 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000 It's not correct. 454 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,000 That meeting two days ago was the first time that the city asked us to renegotiate the lease. 455 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:47,000 We replied as any commercial organization would, due to the fact we're less than two years into a 15-year commercial relationship, we declined. 456 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,000 You warned us in that meeting that you felt you had legal options at your disposal. 457 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000 We asked you to explain those, you declined to do so. 458 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 You indicated you would get back to us. 459 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:05,000 24 hours later, you decided to call an emergency meeting to terminate the lease within an additional 24 hours tonight. 460 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Your method chosen to claim legal breach is to tarnish the reputation of a good man who is a good and honest public servant for this city for many, many years. 461 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:22,000 And then today via the media, you advised us you would be happy to discuss a renegotiation. 462 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Members of Council with all due respect, this is not how you conduct business in the real world. 463 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:38,000 In the past 24 hours alone, you would put the coyotes in a situation whereby we were exposed to the loss of tens of millions of dollars in revenue unnecessarily. 464 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 These are significant damages. 465 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,000 And if you continue down the path you're going down tonight, the damage is just beginning folks. 466 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Everyone will lose and no one more than the good taxpayers of the city of Glendale. 467 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Please be realistic. 468 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Look at the facts, understand the economics, and put the political grandstanding aside. 469 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:09,000 Regardless of the fact we feel there has been an unnecessary lens on the coyotes, especially due to the fact that our finances represent less than one and a half percent of the entire Glendale budget. 470 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000 The coyotes are committed to Glendale for the long term. 471 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,000 And we are committed to ensuring our partnership with the City of Glendale Frives. 472 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000 It is already beneficial to both of us. 473 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Thank you for your time to see. 474 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Thank you, Mr. Wont. 475 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 How much time do we have left? 476 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000 We have 39 minutes left for the public. 477 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000 Who's in line, who wants to speak? 478 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Okay. Again, if you'd please form a line over on this side, we'll bring you up first. 479 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,000 You'll have three minutes, what I'd like you to do is introduce yourself. 480 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000 Your name, if you're from the City of Glendale, the district that you're from. 481 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000 You have not the city that you represent. 482 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Certainly. 483 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Then you might pull up. There you go. Perfect. 484 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Thank you, Mayor. Council members. 485 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 My name is B. Y. And I'm from Cave Creek. 486 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:57,000 I'm not a Glendale resident. However, I do represent Desert Hockey Development, which is a charity that operates within the City of Glendale. 487 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Offering free youth hockey to your children. 488 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,000 I just wanted to say today, one of the, some of the points that have already been brought up, unfortunately, or fortunately. 489 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Just, I pulled something from the City of Glendale's website. 490 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,000 It's previously related, previously related council actions. 491 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,000 And it gives a timeline of the. 492 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Coyote's deal. 493 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:27,000 It said in March 26, 2013, the council voted to ratify and train into agreement with Beacon Sports. 494 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 That's for the RFP to get the quotes to run the arena. 495 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000 That was March 26. 496 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,000 We all know April 1st with Miss was Mr. Tendale's last day with the City of Glendale. 497 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:44,000 He was kind of forced to resign with the help of the mayor and some council members. 498 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:50,000 And he was given a waiver in his separation documents that said the city. 499 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 With informed consent from its attorneys. 500 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Care by waves any conflict of employee. 501 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Conflict of interest waiver. 502 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,000 It was said tonight that Mr. Burmbaum, Gary Burmbaum, outside council, and Mr. Bowers, 503 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:13,000 worked throughout the month of June and July creating negotiations to write this agreement with the City of Glendale and the Coyotes. 504 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Mr. Tendale was no longer an employee. 505 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:23,000 At that time, Mr. Tendale could only provide information on past city deals and not able to provide legal advice. 506 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 That's also an separation agreement. 507 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 He was not able to give the council legal advice. 508 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 So anything he provided to you was not legal advice. 509 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000 Just information on previous deals. 510 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:43,000 One of the things that says in 38, 5, 11, is that any person having significant involvement in the initiation negotiations negotiation, 511 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000 securing drafting or creating the contract. 512 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,000 As we just ran through, Mr. Tendale was not an employee of the City of Glendale. 513 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000 During the period of time that the contract was created. 514 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,000 And so therefore, could not have significant contribution. 515 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:04,000 The city Glendale benefits greatly from having the Coyotes here. 516 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Mr. LeBlanc just ran through some things. 517 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:15,000 But there's other things that he didn't run through, such as the city park that got improvements from playground that the Coyotes built over $100,000. 518 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:22,000 That's important because it was built in Bonsel Park right down the street here in the Yucca district. 519 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Yucca district. Yucca district. 520 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000 Yucca district. 521 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000 I'm so sorry. Again, I'm not a resident of Glendale. 522 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:36,000 But it was something that they built and we assisted them in doing so. 523 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000 Please, truly consider what you're doing. 524 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000 This is a huge deal. 525 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000 I've already are saying the city of Glendale. 526 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Why would anyone want to do business with you? 527 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,000 If you're reading it on your contracts, if you back out of your contracts, thank you very much. 528 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000 Thank you. 529 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000 More up for. 530 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Hello, I'm James Dipler. 531 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000 I came from Phoenix, Arizona. 532 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,000 I currently go to school at Arizona State University West. 533 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:17,000 And I know the city of Glendale cannot afford the Coyotes because every year when the city sign a radio management deal, 534 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:30,000 the Arizona Coyotes broke the law by one of the cities employees was engaging with the Coyotes hiking team. 535 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,000 And a couple of months later, he quit the job. 536 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,000 And Glendale was dying to intensify again about this guy. 537 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:46,000 But he was in the illegal dealings with with with with Arizona Coyotes in the city of Glendale, 538 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000 trying to get every man to make deal. 539 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:56,000 The reason I against the wing is men to jail because to the city of Glendale cannot afford it. 540 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,000 The city should use the taxpayer money to fund homeless people. 541 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000 We pay up for pay grounds. 542 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000 We pay the roads. 543 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,000 And the stand for library hours. 544 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:17,000 My friend, Joey Healey, currently disabled on his wheelchair. 545 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,000 And he is on as a high, he's barely making it by himself. 546 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,000 But he live near Glendale Community College. 547 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 And please work again. 548 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:39,000 And please work to terminate the Coyotes deals because it's no good with the taxpayer for the city in Glendale. 549 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:47,000 And I don't like to see the Arizona Coyotes moving down to Phoenix because they have more businesses. 550 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:54,000 They have more shots and they have more invent that the mayor of Phoenix Grace stands. 551 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000 It will be happy to have in the downs on Phoenix. 552 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Thanks, James. 553 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Come up, sir. 554 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Hello, my name is Reginald Martinez. 555 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000 I live at 6609 West Turquoise Avenue. 556 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000 Glendale is going to build this right. 557 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Good afternoon, Marin Council. 558 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000 I'm here today. 559 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:23,000 I'm not a frequent speaker, but I am a community activist and I did run for city council. 560 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,000 And as I walked, I made a promise to the people who supported me, 561 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:35,000 that over 2,000 people that voted for me or signed my petition and helped me walk. 562 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000 The things that I told that were important to me in Glendale was Westgate. 563 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000 That I supported Westgate. 564 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000 That I supported the coyotes that I supported the white socks. 565 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,000 Though I didn't agree with the contracts made that was something that the pass council had done. 566 00:41:51,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Recently, in the last 6 months we have a new council, a new city manager. 567 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000 And that was a big change losing the city manager. 568 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,000 I thought she did some great things and she saved the city a lot of money. 569 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000 I'm not, you know, I'm not privy to the information you have. 570 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000 I don't see what's going on in the future. 571 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,000 But what I do have to say tonight is that we made a commitment. 572 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,000 And we've always talked about renegotiating contracts and stuff like that. 573 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000 But there's a penalty to pay. 574 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000 And I'm not sure we can afford that penalty because you know what? 575 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,000 We may win the battle tonight, but there's a war waiting down the road for the city of Glendale. 576 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000 And I'm not sure we can win that war. 577 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:46,000 So tonight I ask you to really consider how you vote tonight because from what I understand when this was all taken into place. 578 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000 I talked to a former council member. 579 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:55,000 The gave me some information that there was a 20 year plan that they did this with the coyotes and building Westgate. 580 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000 So hopefully you know something that we don't know. 581 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:05,000 And that you, you, you have a plan that's going to get us through the next 20 years. 582 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Thank you. 583 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Thank you, sir. 584 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,000 Sure. 585 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000 Hi, my name is Jesse Hurley. 586 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Right, raise it up. 587 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000 It's comfortable for you. 588 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000 There we go. 589 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,000 And I actually live kind of on the edge of Phoenix. 590 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,000 It's like an awkward little division there because anyways, 591 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000 it's really close to Glendale. 592 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,000 It's been a long time, Lendale. 593 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Let me to say that. 594 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000 I basically live at Hila River Arena. 595 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,000 I've lived there pretty much since the coyotes came to town. 596 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:43,000 To me, and I think for a lot of fans, this is like watching two parents have a fight. 597 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:49,000 And the father is tearing the wife's arm off. 598 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000 And things are shredding. 599 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,000 The muscle, the tissue, the bone is shredding. 600 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000 Right now, you guys are thinking about doing. 601 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000 And from what I've heard of the decisions already made. 602 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000 It better not be. 603 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000 Because then you haven't really in your hearts heard of what we had to say. 604 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Because there's going to be a lot of people talking tonight. 605 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,000 So I hope you got a lot of popcorn. 606 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000 Let me say this. 607 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,000 You guys are shredding this city. 608 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000 And you're doing it too. 609 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,000 Our guys. 610 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000 These are our guys. 611 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000 This is our team. 612 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,000 Guess who hired you. 613 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,000 Guess who pays the taxes here. 614 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000 It's us. 615 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,000 You guys won't be here much longer than this conversation. 616 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000 I'm telling you right now. 617 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,000 If the NHL is very powerful, obviously, we all know that. 618 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,000 But you know who's more powerful and who's more pissed us. 619 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,000 All of us. 620 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,000 Well, these are most of us. 621 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,000 Sorry, guys. 622 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000 If you're not pissed. 623 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000 I'm pissed. 624 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,000 But the guy's not pissed. 625 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000 If you're pissed, you're pissed. 626 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000 I'm telling you right now. 627 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000 I run a small little blog. 628 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,000 To get about 9,000 hits every post I make. Okay? I'm telling you right now, it's not just us, and I'm 629 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:24,000 San Jose, Chicago, Florida, every city in the national hockey league hates having their teams move. And I'm telling you right now, the money will be flowing for lawsuits, not from just the NHL, but from the citizens. 630 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:39,000 It's sick and tired to be in jerked around by you guys all of the time every single couple of years. Please make a commitment and keep it just like you were in a marriage that you signed off of in front of all of us. 631 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:47,000 Do that for the city and do that for the taxpayers and do that for the people that voted you in here. Thank you. Thank you. 632 00:45:47,000 --> 00:46:00,000 No, no, not black. No, we're not going to do that. Good evening. Mayor, vice mayor members of the council. 633 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:06,000 Do we have councilman Sherwood with us this evening? I think he's on the phone. 634 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Do we have council members Sherwood with us this evening? Mr. Sherwood, are you on the line? 635 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,000 Okay, go ahead, sir. Yes. Again, I run at for the record. Station name in the city. 636 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,000 Living. Gary Hirsch, I live in the cactus district in the city of Glendale. 637 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,000 Go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. 638 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:40,000 Great irony that the self declared author architect of this horrific deal isn't here this evening to defend his position. 639 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:52,000 And I remember when that voter occurred and the acting city manager cautioned the council at that time that this contract had unreasonable degree of risk. 640 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,000 And I believe that that was the language used unreasonable level of risk. 641 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:17,000 And now that we've had a year and a half, almost two years of this contract in operation, we see that we are, in fact, at a unacceptable level of risk. 642 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:24,000 Members of the council, this deal isn't working. It was ill conceived. 643 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,000 And thankfully you found an opportunity to legally disconnect from this. 644 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:38,000 Perhaps the organization, the coyotes, would like to rent our facility that the taxpayers own, like any other tenant would. 645 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,000 You know, life owned both commercial and residential property over the years, it's been my good fortune to do that. 646 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:49,000 And I've never had a situation where I paid the remedy to live in my house. 647 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:57,000 So I don't believe that this was in the best interest. 648 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000 It was legally flawed. 649 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,000 There's a statute language, which is apparently explicit. 650 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:16,000 And so far, what I've heard this evening, other than a few of the local fans from legal counsel and ownership of the coyotes, it's rats and intimidation. 651 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:25,000 And tonight is the night council members for statesmen, like behavior. 652 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:31,000 Vote, yes, to in this. I have every confidence. 653 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:39,000 There's any number of professional management organizations out there that would be very happy to come in and work this arena. 654 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:45,000 Get this thing turned around, let Glendale take control of its own fate. 655 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,000 Thank you. 656 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,000 Thank you, sir. 657 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,000 Okay, next. 658 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,000 Good evening, Mayor council. My name's Chris Houser. 659 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000 I am a Glendale resident. 660 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000 A little bit hard to hear you, sir. 661 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000 I am a Glendale resident. 662 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Very good. 663 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,000 And part of one of the reasons I moved to Glendale because I thought it'd be a great place to live. 664 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,000 And there's a lot of things that we have that we can take pride in. 665 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:19,000 Our sports facilities, the teams, the coyotes, the cardinals, the spring training. 666 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000 It's a great thing to have in the community. 667 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,000 And when I see things like this, it embarrasses me. 668 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,000 And I'm ashamed that it has come to this. 669 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000 I find this to be a bit as a nine that we are. 670 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000 We're here trying to work out an agreement. 671 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:43,000 Or trying to go back on an agreement, whether we think he could have been better terms at the time. 672 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,000 None of us were there negotiating it. 673 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,000 I just, I'm not going to waste three minutes of your time. 674 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:58,000 But I just wanted to share that part of the reason why I love Glendale is because of the things that it offers. 675 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000 And it seems like you're trying to take one of those away. 676 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000 Thank you, sir. 677 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,000 Come on. 678 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Good evening, Mayor. 679 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,000 Vice Mayor and council members. 680 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,000 My name is Julie Done. 681 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,000 I reside in Litchfield Park, just fordering on Glendale. 682 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,000 But my husband and I spend a lot of money in Glendale because of the coyotes. 683 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:26,000 My first concern is I'm a bit curious what evidence you have that Mr. Bailey says supports this statute. 684 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,000 Mr. Mayor, where's has said that he wants transparency in these proceedings. 685 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,000 So where's the transparency when you are not providing us with the evidence? 686 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:41,000 Not providing the public with the reported evidence in support of the statute. 687 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,000 Based on what the public knows, which is limited to what you want us to know is I've just set forth. 688 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,000 It appears that you're using the statute to try to get out of a deal. 689 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,000 But not for the proper purpose that the statute was in enacted. 690 00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:02,000 The statute was enacted so that people in a political position wouldn't take advantage of that position. 691 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,000 And then benefit from it in a quick pro quo later by being hired by another party. 692 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:14,000 I don't see any evidence of that here based on the timelines that Mr. Tindall worked with Glendale and then now works with the coyotes. 693 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:23,000 I also find the 18 month delay in asking for this cancellation suspicious and also not in support of the way you're using the statute. 694 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:29,000 The explicit damage from this cancellation will obviously be the coyotes leaving an empty arena. 695 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,000 But the collateral damage goes far beyond that. 696 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:42,000 Not only will the businesses at Westgate suffer, but this cancellation will hunt the city of Glendale for all in all future business dealings. 697 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:51,000 You know, business beware if you want to do business with Glendale because if they want to get out of a business deal, they're going to find a statute or a loophole to do it. 698 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:59,000 Is that really what you want your reputation to be based on a 24 hour process of notifying the coyotes that you want cancellation to deal. 699 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:05,000 I urge you to think about it a little bit longer, especially when council members sure would as present. 700 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,000 Thank you. 701 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,000 Thank you. 702 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,000 Good evening, sir. 703 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,000 Good evening, Mayor. 704 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000 Vice Mayor, council members. 705 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000 Mr. Bowers. 706 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,000 As you know, I'm the development manager representing ownership of Westgate entertainment district. 707 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,000 There's a lot to talk about Westgate. 708 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000 I think it's important to hear from us directly. 709 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:34,000 To understand it, I'm disappointed to find that we're here revisiting this topic two years after you prove the contract. 710 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:42,000 You're bringing unnecessary self-inflicted and negative attention onto yourself and onto the ears on a coyotes franchise. 711 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:50,000 A franchise in which hundreds of millions of dollars of private capital have been invested in the last couple years on the basis of its contract with the city of Glendale. 712 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,000 I want to address two things tonight. 713 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,000 One being choices are false choices and one being economic development. 714 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:02,000 There's a lot of talk about $15 million and unfortunately we'll hear lots of references to $15 million. 715 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,000 As you know, $15 million is a misnomer. 716 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,000 The deal does not cost you $15 million. 717 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,000 The net cost of the city is in the neighborhood of seven. 718 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000 But it's not a choice between seven and zero. 719 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,000 It's a choice between seven and what would you do with the empty arena. 720 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:28,000 You put it out to bed as the counsel to the coyotes noted you had bids that required the city would be obligated to take 100% of the cost of operating 721 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:33,000 and the capital expenses of the arena which were estimated at $6 to $7 million. 722 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:39,000 Those comparisons of seven to seven show a net effect to the city a basically nothing. 723 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:46,000 And that's before the consideration of economic development activity outside the four walls of the arena 724 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,000 and ignoring that is frankly absurd. 725 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,000 So let me turn my attention to economic development activity. 726 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:58,000 By any reasonable objective measure, there's been substantial development activity at Westgate in the last three years. 727 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000 We built 10 drought less Westgate in 2012. 728 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000 In 2014 we expanded it. 729 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000 Under way right now we're building Davenbusters. 730 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:12,000 The city of Glendale has a pending application for another hotel in the city of Glendale. 731 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:20,000 Electively that development in the last three years represents over $100 million in sales revenue upon which the city gets sales taxes. 732 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Hundreds upon hundreds of thousand dollars of building permit fees to the city of Glendale. 733 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,000 And a thousand or more permanent jobs in the city of Glendale. 734 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,000 It is real, it is tangible economic benefit. 735 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,000 I ask you, do you think it would be the same without the coyotes? 736 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:46,000 So before you invoke tonight, I would ask you to consider not just the damage you've already done to the businesses around the coyotes to the coyotes themselves by calling this meeting. 737 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:56,000 But the further damage you'll do to the relationships to them with private business owners and to real estate owners, all at cost to the city of taxpayers. 738 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,000 Thank you. 739 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,000 Thank you Mr. Faisal. 740 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,000 I'm not sure. 741 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,000 Wow, I can't believe I'm here. But since I am here. 742 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,000 I'm from Seattle. I moved here to Arizona about a year ago. 743 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,000 And I met Jeff T. Sullivan and open up a restaurant in Glendale next to Buffalo. 744 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,000 Well, it means called the Belibria Cafe. 745 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,000 I've got about $700,000 invested in that business. 746 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,000 And I know to you guys, it probably means absolutely nothing. 747 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,000 But a little bit about what I'm going to talk about right now is common sense. 748 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:34,000 What you guys are doing really should really evaluate your common sense about what you're going to do to all these businesses because you're going to devastate them whole. 749 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:42,000 Not only the businesses, the employees, their families, their children, everybody that's going to suffer from there because the business is well close. 750 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,000 They will shut down because of the revenue. 751 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,000 I came to Glendale because of the coyotes. 752 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,000 And you guys can look at me and listen to me and you can probably care less about what I have to say. 753 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,000 But all these people out here that have money invested, they do care. 754 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,000 And you should really think about it because this is nonsense. 755 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Really, really is. 756 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000 It's common sense. 757 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,000 And you guys looking at me are probably going to who's this idiot. 758 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000 The bottom line is as I will lose money so everybody else. 759 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,000 You guys are adults. 760 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,000 You guys are educated people. 761 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000 Get your groups together. 762 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,000 Communicate, compromise. 763 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000 Get it done and move on. 764 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,000 Otherwise there's going to be a lot of people suffering. 765 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,000 But it won't affect your pocketbook. 766 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,000 Thanks. 767 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,000 Thank you, sir. 768 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,000 My name is Marianne Bailey and I am a Glendale resident. 769 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,000 Barrel district and I have been since 1995. 770 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:47,000 And all I want to start off saying is, I think that you all should be ashamed of yourself for even considering this. 771 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,000 This is terrible. 772 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:56,000 The coyotes organization is a wonderful organization and it is given back to the community in so many ways. 773 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000 And you guys are not even looking at that. 774 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:09,000 There is absolutely no reason for you to try and find a loophole to get out of this contract that you guys don't like. 775 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,000 They are here. 776 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:16,000 They support our area and you should be thankful that they're here. 777 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:26,000 And you are devastating not only the coyotes organization if you go through with this but all the businesses like all the other people have said. 778 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:40,000 Our other businesses going to come to Glendale and say, oh yeah we really want to do business with them when you can turn around in less than a three year period and say oh well we don't like it anymore. 779 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,000 No they're not going to do it. 780 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:54,000 You need to start thinking about that because you're you're putting a terrible mark on the city of Glendale and I'm really ashamed at this point of even being in the city of Glendale anymore. 781 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000 You know think about what you're doing. 782 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:09,000 You know you've got a great organization that gives back but then on the other hand you're looking at building a casino and in a backyard when they broke the promise. 783 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:17,000 To not live or build within a community and it's right across from a high school where are your priorities. 784 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:30,000 What are you thinking about and I'm just I'm absolutely appalled by you guys even thinking of doing this to the coyotes because they're a good organization and they're going to help us here. 785 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:37,000 Because you don't like the deal you're trying to renew and I think it's terrible and I wanted to just make my comments and opinions known. 786 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:43,000 So hopefully you'll get some common sense and change your minds because I think you've already got it made. 787 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000 Thank you ma'am. 788 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,000 Mayor Howria. 789 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,000 I just don't care. 790 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000 Hello my name is John Mendeblas. 791 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:58,000 I reside in Phoenix and I have property and Mr. Charlie it is district yaka. 792 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,000 My yaki gonna be from yaka pretty soon. 793 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,000 There you go. 794 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:10,000 I'm a former mayor of a small community and I'm native so the casino is your kind of, that's my blood a little bit. 795 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,000 But you know, this is not the issue of us versus them. 796 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,000 This is an issue of you as a community. 797 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,000 You know, you need to work to each other and work with each other. 798 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,000 To attack your council which you elected. 799 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,000 Right. 800 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,000 Why did you elect them? 801 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,000 Right. 802 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:37,000 I just talked to the proponents of the coyotes and their morning willing to negotiate renegotiate. 803 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:43,000 But they must understand if the city's paying 15 million and only getting six or seven back. 804 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,000 It's on your back that that money's coming from. 805 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,000 Money that's not going to recreation. 806 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:54,000 Money that's not going to parks or to libraries or to your public safety. 807 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,000 That's your money. 808 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000 Your taxes. 809 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,000 Now is that what you want to say no to? 810 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,000 Be a community together. Work with each other. You get more to compromise and understanding than you do with vinegar and salt. 811 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:23,000 That is what this is about. As a veteran, I can say this. As a veteran who poured blood for this community, I can say this. 812 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:31,000 I don't believe my country the way it is right now. I don't believe how you will not look at the needs of your community. 813 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:39,000 Versus for the needs of professional sports. Every state in this state has been born and built by taxpayers. 814 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:46,000 By your taxes, not by the professional sports, by your taxes. And that's God's truth. 815 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:57,000 In this particular instance, then they have built the whole thing. So it's just like, you know, green bay, it's your arena. You own it. 816 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:07,000 But I think these are honorable gentlemen, Mr. Wood and Mr. LeBlanc. As I do this honorable council, this council I know well and it's very honorable. 817 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:16,000 And to say other than that, conceives are cloud upon yourself as people from Glenda, which I soon will be. 818 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:30,000 I would hope, and I would pray, as Americans, as individuals, as the best country in this year earth, that you have the ability to be open to negotiate. 819 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:38,000 Not to, not to settle lines that you will have to cross. No, let's don't do anything but make an adversary. 820 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:49,000 But to come together as a community. Because remember, if it doesn't add up to what is supposed to add up, you pay the cost. It comes out of your taxes. 821 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:55,000 All right. And right now, Glenda is not in the good boat budget wise. 822 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:02,000 So you want more taxes. Because if you do tell the council, though, I'm going to put more taxes if you want it. 823 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:11,000 You know, but it's up to you as a community. You know, attacking each other, that is you're no good. Work with one another. 824 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,000 Thank you, Mayor. 825 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,000 Thank you, Mayor. 826 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,000 Sir, your next. How many? 827 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,000 Okay. We have enough for four more people. 828 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,000 You need to cancel. I'm daughter of an olden. I'm coming out of good year Arizona. 829 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,000 And I'm representing all the businesses. We didn't hear your name. 830 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,000 Sure. 831 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,000 Don't have an olden. 832 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,000 Okay. Very good. Thank you. 833 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,000 And I'm representing all the businesses of restaurants, the Westgate. 834 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:40,000 And I just want to speak on behalf of the businesses that we rely on the business during the week or the hockey games and the foot traffic that they bring through. 835 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:52,000 And in order to keep our revenue up, I think it's a mistake to go ahead and follow through with this deal. 836 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:58,000 We have a great work environment with our fans, the coyotes, the working staff of the coyotes. 837 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,000 And I just want to. 838 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,000 I just want to say that I think this would be a mistake. 839 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,000 Thank you so much. 840 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,000 Sure. 841 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:17,000 Hello, my name is Larry Feiner from the Swarrow District. 842 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,000 I have some Glendale chops. I've lived here over a decade. 843 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,000 I've worked here over a decade. 844 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:30,000 I manage a real estate office with over 540 real estate agents. 845 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:35,000 I'm a commissioner for the City of Glendale on the Board of Adjustments. 846 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:49,000 I'm a founding board member of Desert Hockey Development, which is dedicated to making sports affordable for the children of Glendale. 847 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,000 I care about Glendale. 848 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:57,000 I've got a couple of questions that need answering. 849 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:11,000 In 2013, there was studies done on how much the arena would cost with and without the coyotes in the arena. 850 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,000 Has that been considered this time? 851 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:22,000 Do we have a plan A, a plan B and a plan C? 852 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:29,000 Without a plan B and a C, how can you even consider this vote? 853 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,000 I have a problem with this vote in the first place. 854 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:37,000 It's timing seems a little scrupulous to me. 855 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:50,000 This emergency meeting was called when it was known that council member Sherwood would be in Salt Lake City for a transportation meeting. 856 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:55,000 That's not fair pool. That's dirty pool. 857 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,000 I'm not very happy with this council. 858 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:02,000 I'll have to say right now. 859 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000 Okay. 860 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,000 The people that are in line, we're going to let all you speak no one else pass the lady behind. 861 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,000 We'll go a little over the hour, but we'll allow those people to speak. 862 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,000 Go ahead, ma'am. 863 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,000 Okay. One second. Don't start the time yet. 864 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,000 Council member Sherwood, you are on the phone. 865 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,000 I have been online. I would just offer a couple minutes. 866 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,000 We were trying to watch it on video. There was a delay. 867 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,000 Okay. All right. So that takes sure the last comment. 868 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,000 Okay. Good. I'm glad to have you here. 869 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:38,000 My name's Joy Dunn. I've lived in the Glendell area for the last 34 years now. 870 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:46,000 I have watched my neighborhood around me change drastically since, you know, the crash and all with the housing market. 871 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:56,000 What I don't appreciate with the arenas and all the other things that we do put out money for. 872 01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:02,000 As I'm watching my strip malls in the area, just deplete down to hardly anybody. 873 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:10,000 And then we end up with, you know, smoke shops and hooka shops and vapor shops and all. 874 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,000 And I'm very aware of what is going on in my neighborhood. 875 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:21,000 There's been a couple killings take place. The Nile hooka shop last year. 876 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,000 They're out of business now. Thank God. They're science taken down. 877 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,000 And the cast of block on Pioria and 43rd area. 878 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,000 I am very upset about this. 879 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,000 It gets just thrown up in the media and then taken down immediately. 880 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,000 Because, you know, follow up and say, 881 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,000 Did you find the person that killed that other individual? 882 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:49,000 Well, believe me, I've gotten no nosy to find out what's happening. 883 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:58,000 Talking to the shop owners in the area, there is a lone wolf weapon tree there in that shopping center also. 884 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:08,000 With two, well, the pipe or the smoke shop that I'm aware of was selling spice and salts in there. 885 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:15,000 And I talk to the police and I get no response about what they're going to do about the situation. 886 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:26,000 I have seen and reported young people walking down the street that are totally out of their gold with their, you know, 887 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,000 Bridges half down and all and report it that. 888 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:36,000 If you want to look into it, go ahead and call DPS and I get, you know, some smart person on the phone. 889 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,000 I'm worried about my neighborhoods. 890 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:46,000 I'm worried about what you people aren't accomplishing with the connection of your police departments. 891 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:55,000 And all, we had three killings just yesterday evening off of 67th and in Canto area. 892 01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,000 What in the world is going on with our area? 893 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000 The shops I'm very aware. 894 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:09,000 I'm around the corner on 67th and camel back area, or not camel back, but 67th and cactus area. 895 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,000 I know who bought into there. 896 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000 They were Russian and all. 897 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,000 And I want to know what's going on with my area. 898 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,000 How this property is just turning and turning. 899 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,000 You people better get on top of this. 900 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:27,000 We're being taken over and it's pissing me off. 901 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,000 Okay. 902 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,000 Okay. 903 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,000 The next speaker. 904 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:37,000 And if we could, please, let's keep the comments towards the coyotes issue here. 905 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,000 I'll be very brief. 906 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,000 My name is Jennifer Delprenzope. 907 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:45,000 I live in surprise, but I am a second year season ticket holder now with me has been in our two kids. 908 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,000 And we spent an incredible time in the Westgate area. 909 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,000 Cabela's the whole Westgate corridor. 910 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,000 But in good money both with the coyotes and in our in and around that area. 911 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,000 Our son plays hockey. 912 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,000 We moved up here from Tucson. 913 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,000 We don't have ice rinks in hockey. 914 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,000 In Tucson anymore. 915 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,000 You have to come to Phoenix to do that. 916 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:18,000 And the things that my son has been able to at a young age accomplish because of the outreach programs and the community programs with the coyote organization. 917 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:28,000 The Paw Patrol and Arizona coyotes foundation have set up our immeasurable throughout our entire community above and beyond what they accomplish here in Glendale. 918 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,000 So please, I urge you guys to sit on this. 919 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:38,000 Take note of everything that's been said, whether it's from a legal standpoint or a fan standpoint. 920 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:46,000 These coyotes have brought so much to Phoenix to Glendale to Arizona and the outline communities. 921 01:09:46,000 --> 01:10:00,000 It would be a shame and also shame to lose them within our communities because the good that they bring will lose it if it's gone. 922 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,000 Go ahead, huh? 923 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:09,000 My name is Joey and I'm going to. 924 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,000 Go coyotes. 925 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,000 Okay. 926 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,000 All right. 927 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,000 Thank you very much. 928 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,000 Good evening. 929 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,000 My name is Veronica Balutnini. 930 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:27,000 I'm in 5815 Westmorten Avenue, Glendale, Arcatio District. 931 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,000 And I've lived in Glendale close to 30 years now. 932 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:42,000 So my major concern is that as taxpayers of the Lendale, which is a mid-sized city, 933 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,000 236,000 people live here, and that includes children. 934 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:54,000 I just feel that we don't have the tax space to subsidize the coyotes. 935 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,000 We're not Toronto. 936 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000 We're not LA. 937 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,000 We're not Ontario. 938 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,000 We're just mid-sized window. 939 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:16,000 And what happens is, like the previous speaker said, we're losing out on the amenities of a city. 940 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:21,000 We're losing out on parks and recreations on libraries. 941 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:28,000 Up in the hours of cut, we should have a new library. 942 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:34,000 83rd Avenue, and Bethany, and that hasn't happened. 943 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:39,000 And in the meantime, we're staying money subsidizing a team. 944 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,000 National hockey league team. 945 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:53,000 I think they're great team, but I just don't see how a mid-sized city with our tax space can afford them. 946 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,000 And in plus, we are in the valley. 947 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,000 Our city taxes are the highest. 948 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,000 We pay 2.9% in city taxes. 949 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,000 We pay higher than Scottsdale. 950 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,000 We pay higher than Phoenix. 951 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:15,000 And then those taxes are not going away in your future from what I understand. 952 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:24,000 So I'm just really upset that our city has been caught in a trap. 953 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:32,000 And if Scottsdale and Phoenix, and let's feel park wants to help, hey, that would be awesome. 954 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,000 They can help pay the arena management. 955 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,000 We'll go for that. 956 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,000 But not just good old blindel. 957 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,000 So thank you. 958 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,000 Thank you. 959 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,000 Hi. I'm Sherry, and I live in North Phoenix. 960 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,000 I've always lived right on the edge of Glendale. 961 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,000 I live at 43rd Avenue in Happy Valley. 962 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,000 Bell in 43rd Avenue before that. 963 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:03,000 And I just want to start by saying, I'm completely embarrassed by the behavior of the council 964 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,000 and trying to reinigound this deal. 965 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,000 We are the laughing stock of the valley right now. 966 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:14,000 And you know, I'm proud to be from the west side, but this doesn't do it for me. 967 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:24,000 When we have a kind of cooling off period for a couple of weeks, get some people together, talk about it. 968 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:32,000 We don't need the escalation because to me it sounds like you guys are the ones being the bullies, not the coyotes. 969 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:38,000 I'm also to speak something that ladies said, I'm from Buffalo, New York, originally. 970 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,000 We have the sabers. 971 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,000 Yeah, our tax base is much smaller than that is out here. 972 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:49,000 And we can support the sabers and the bills without any problem. 973 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,000 Something that Michael Bailey said about being a good partner with the Cardinals. 974 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,000 Not what I heard. 975 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,000 I've listened to Michael Bedwell. 976 01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,000 Lamb based the city council of Glendale during the. 977 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,000 Super Bowl because. 978 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:08,000 All the other events had to be in Scottsdale in Phoenix because you guys wouldn't buy into this. 979 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:13,000 We want to be a world class city and attract people from all over the country to come here. 980 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:18,000 This is not how we go about it. 981 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:23,000 I've, you know, I've been listening to the whole conflict of interest with attorney Tindale. 982 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:31,000 It sounds like you're kind of splitting hairs and he was gone before the crux of the deal was struck. 983 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,000 So I'm I'm kind of puzzled in that. 984 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:40,000 If we're so if Glendale so strapped for cash, why are you willing to let this go to. 985 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,000 Litigation. 986 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,000 Why can't we just get behind the coyotes. 987 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,000 Help them be successful within our community. 988 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:50,000 And as the team improves your your money will come. 989 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,000 I, I'm just. 990 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:59,000 You know, I've never gone to a city council meeting, never gone to any political meeting at all. 991 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,000 And I'm just. 992 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,000 I'm embarrassed. I'm just totally embarrassed. I think we need to quit act. You guys need to quit acting like school children who, you don't like the deal that was struck by the previous administration. You know, it's really too bad. Let's make the best of it. I mean, splitting hairs and making us look like morons in this part of the valley is just, you know, I love the West Valley. Like I said, I've lived in the West Valley my entire time out here in Phoenix. 993 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:34,000 Let's see what my last little thing was. 994 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:42,000 When people come to coyotes games, you bring people in from other parts of the valley who would never step foot in the West side. 995 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:49,000 So if you put a good foot forward, I mean, Westgate's nice. We've got the, you guys have the place down on northern, that has like, 996 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,000 where all these pizza and stuff, that's nice. Why don't you want to showcase that? 997 01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:10,000 I mean, people, the East side people, they're coming here except for coyotes game or cardinals game. So why don't we show them what we have to offer and then maybe we can improve our image. 998 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:16,000 Hi, my name's Rhonda Pearson. I reside in North Phoenix and mainly this is directed at you, Mayor Wires. 999 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:24,000 I'm curious because I go to all coyotes games because I've been a season ticket holder for several years now, both season, not a half season, not a partial season, both season. 1000 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:33,000 I've seen you at game, so many games. A number of times sporting a jersey that looks just like this one with mayor on the back and the number one on the back. 1001 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:40,000 How much did you pay for your jersey? How much did you pay for your tickets for those games? Because I know I paid a hell of a lot more than you did. 1002 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:53,000 I support this team. You don't. You don't show up to games and pay for your tickets. None of you do. Why, why are you at the Super Bowl? Because you didn't buy a ticket. Someone gave you tickets. 1003 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:59,000 What happened to all the events that comes with the Super Bowl? The NFL moved him to Scottsdale because of you. 1004 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:07,000 Look at all these people who showed up supporting this team last minute. I hope, but down the road, please don't give me a speeding ticket officer. 1005 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:19,000 I hope, but to get here so I can speak my mind. Because I support this team. It's you that doesn't support any sport in this city, not football and certainly not hockey. 1006 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:35,000 What you're doing is childish. It's pathetic and it's disrespectful to the citizens who voted you in office and for all of us that spent so much time and energy supporting this team when you never did. 1007 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,000 Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. 1008 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,000 Reverend Mocking. 1009 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,000 Mary Council. 1010 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,000 No stranger before you on on this issue. 1011 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:54,000 I've been here every time it's come before you. 1012 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,000 And my opinion then. 1013 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:08,000 And my opinion now. I'm not this similar, but I'm going to ask you to do this community a favor and I think to do the right thing in this situation. 1014 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:20,000 And I think that's clearly based on on your actions tonight. You have shown that you can bring folks to the table. Everyone that's required to be around the table. 1015 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:29,000 And no matter what you do, whether you do it tonight or the do it a week from tonight, you'll still be able to get this done. 1016 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:34,000 I would humbly request that that one of you join. 1017 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,000 Three of your other colleagues. 1018 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:42,000 Not saying yes to the contract. 1019 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,000 Not saying no to ice here is on. 1020 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,000 But just saying okay to having a dialogue. 1021 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:54,000 I'm going to ask you to put this off until the 17th of June. 1022 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,000 And give folks like yourselves and like Mr. Wood and Mr. LeBlanc. 1023 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:03,000 And third party folk. I said I'm willing to do it. 1024 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,000 I know there's others that are willing to do it to see if we can't just sit down at the table. 1025 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,000 One week, what's a week. 1026 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,000 And work through some of these issues. 1027 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,000 Let's have a conversation about it. 1028 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,000 Let's talk about it. 1029 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,000 Let's lay bare the facts. 1030 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,000 Let's have a debate. You know, you've met before. 1031 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,000 Let's let's meet. 1032 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,000 And again, I recommend having some third party folks in the room. 1033 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,000 So you can cut through some of the vitriol and the opinions. 1034 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,000 And deal just with the facts. 1035 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,000 And then if on the 17th, you feel the same way. 1036 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,000 Have the vote you're having tonight. 1037 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,000 I'm by all means. 1038 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,000 I'm not saying stop doing what you're doing. 1039 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,000 You've got the power right now. 1040 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,000 It comes woman Tomachoff. 1041 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,000 Vice Mayor Hugh Mayor Wires. 1042 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,000 Mr. Turner, you've got it. 1043 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,000 You hold the Trump card. 1044 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,000 Give us a week. 1045 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,000 Give the people a week. 1046 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,000 Give the third party folks a week. 1047 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,000 And you've tried all you can. 1048 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,000 I hear it. 1049 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,000 I hear it. 1050 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,000 I hear it. I hear it. 1051 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,000 But before the lawyer start getting paid. 1052 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,000 Because they're the ones that are going to make out like bandits. 1053 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,000 Will you give the third party folks? 1054 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,000 Folks like me. 1055 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,000 Like Art Hamilton, like Ruth McGregor, 1056 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,000 Outstanding Citizens, Mr. Collangelo, 1057 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,000 Others. 1058 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,000 They can get everybody around the table. 1059 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,000 Give us a week to see what we can do. 1060 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,000 And then if we can't do anything. 1061 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,000 Have the vote. 1062 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,000 You're going to have tonight. 1063 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,000 But give us a week. 1064 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,000 Give us a week. 1065 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,000 Thank you. 1066 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,000 Thank you very much. 1067 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,000 Okay. 1068 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,000 Please. 1069 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,000 No applause. 1070 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000 Good afternoon. 1071 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,000 Okay. 1072 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,000 We have a discussion from our council. 1073 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,000 Yes, Mayor. 1074 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,000 Council member Tabita. 1075 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,000 Well, I'm going to start off folks. 1076 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,000 I am. 1077 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,000 I want to thank each and every one of you for being here tonight, 1078 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,000 whether you're pro, whether you're con. 1079 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,000 I had some remarks prepared. 1080 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:51,000 I'm going to speak for my heart. 1081 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:57,000 We all know where I voted on July 2nd, 2013. 1082 01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:01,000 And we all know how I voted. 1083 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,000 And I was a swing vote. 1084 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,000 But kept the coyotes here. 1085 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,000 But you know, this was never about the coyotes. 1086 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,000 It never has been, I never will be. 1087 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,000 Mr. LeBlanc and I have that conversation, 1088 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,000 I don't know what I mean. 1089 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,000 I'm sure they're working on it, but I don't know what I mean. 1090 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,000 I don't know what I mean. 1091 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,000 I'm sure they don't know what I mean. 1092 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,000 And I told them that this wasn't a good deal. 1093 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,000 But it was the best deal at the time. 1094 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,000 2013, July 2nd. 1095 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,000 We were on the verge of bankruptcy. 1096 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:39,000 We were going through our assets, to sell our assets, to see how we could get money. 1097 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,760 is that when the merchants reached out to me, a Westgate, 1098 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,720 when the citizens of my district reached out to me, 1099 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,960 and that's who I responded to. 1100 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,680 Come here, Carriwater, I'm in that decision. 1101 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,000 And to this day, I will stick by it. 1102 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:01,240 And I will always stick by the citizens, the employees, 1103 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,560 and the rules special caveat to the merchants of Westgate. 1104 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,400 I have met with my dear friend from risky roles. 1105 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,960 I'm sorry if I can't give you all a plug. 1106 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,240 But they all know me. 1107 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,600 And the thing is, at the end of the day, 1108 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,240 I ask you to pray for my colleagues up here, 1109 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,600 to open their hearts, to open their minds. 1110 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,240 And this is bigger than us. 1111 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,760 Because when they go back to their districts, 1112 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,920 I got a stare at mine. 1113 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,760 And the reason why I did this is because I wanted 1114 01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,000 to keep Westgate alive. 1115 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,440 Sports came here way before we did. 1116 01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:41,160 This obligation was made way before we were here. 1117 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:45,680 Folks, have you ever heard the phrase or coined the phrase, 1118 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,880 playing the cars you were dealt? 1119 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,160 Well, I did that. 1120 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,160 And I will always stay stand fast. 1121 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,840 I won't let you down. 1122 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,040 And right now, unless you have a crystal ball, 1123 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:03,880 like it was mentioned before, one of my constituents 1124 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,480 commented in, we're talking about assurances. 1125 01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:09,720 And he was pretty candid because you know what I'm saying? 1126 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,440 We're not even sure if we're going to make it here tomorrow. 1127 01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:13,080 Be it tomorrow, wake up. 1128 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,080 And I go, you know what? 1129 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,480 You're right. 1130 01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:19,000 But we can go off past practices and best practices, 1131 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,600 or practices that keep us afloat. 1132 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,760 This deal was a life reserve. 1133 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,160 It wasn't pretty, but it kept Westgate alive. 1134 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,800 We're no longer on life support. 1135 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,760 We're no longer in a wheelchair. 1136 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,200 But we certainly are walking straight 1137 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,240 tall with leg braces. 1138 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,640 We cannot take those off folks who fall flat on our faces. 1139 01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:44,240 And another thing with the bat with the best practices, 1140 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:48,200 going from 2013 to now, look who we're at, folks. 1141 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,640 We had a negative credit rating. 1142 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,200 It's been upgraded to a stable. 1143 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,080 It's been upgraded from a stable to a positive. 1144 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,680 And we're not too far off from getting that. 1145 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:03,560 And I hope I'm saying this right, A3 and A3 rating. 1146 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,440 So if those aren't indicators, this isn't working. 1147 01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:10,200 Like I said, it's not the best, you know, the cars run it. 1148 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,320 But we're going to make it there. 1149 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,280 But if you can honestly look at what's being brought to the table right now, 1150 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:21,560 and you have a chance, is that that $15 million that we're supposed to pay. 1151 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:26,080 That's in the budget right now in our balance budget right now. 1152 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,120 If you can assure me that we're not going to have litigation, 1153 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:34,000 it's going to turn those $15 million into an interest payment of $50 million. 1154 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,000 I don't have that crystal ball. 1155 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:41,800 I can't tell you, but if my colleagues can assure you, then we're in a good place. 1156 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:47,000 But I can assure you that this worked up until now. 1157 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,080 Thank you, Mayor. 1158 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,440 Thank you. 1159 01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:53,280 Other council members? 1160 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,600 Any other council members have any discussion? 1161 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:57,200 We said that. 1162 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:57,920 I did, sir. 1163 01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:58,280 Go ahead. 1164 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,120 Thank you. 1165 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:02,280 Thank you, Mayor. 1166 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:07,320 And thank you to all of you who've come here today on both sides of the issue to show your thoughts 1167 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:08,320 with us. 1168 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:09,320 It's very much appreciated. 1169 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,280 And sometimes the public speaking is not the easiest thing. 1170 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:20,080 So the courage you show when you get up and speak to us from your hearts is very much appreciated. 1171 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:25,680 When very powerful people are threatening to sue you, it makes one reluctant to speak 1172 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,640 out loud and in detail. 1173 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,400 Trust me on that. 1174 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:36,760 My job here is the City Council member is to do what I think through contemplation is in the 1175 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,360 best interest, the long-term interest of the Citizens of the Glendale. 1176 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:45,880 And that's also involves protecting the legal interest of the Citizens of the Glendale. 1177 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:50,920 And to that it does make me reluctant because of the threats to speak too candidly. 1178 01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,240 So I will be brief. 1179 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,600 A couple of the members who commented, or individuals who commented tonight and other comments 1180 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:09,080 we've heard over, say, radio or such have called this re-nigging on a contract or finding 1181 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,080 a loophole. 1182 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,080 I want to assure you that it does not that. 1183 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,640 This is a provision in the contract. 1184 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,360 It's on page 96. 1185 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,480 It's provision number 24.13.2. 1186 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:25,840 It's a fully disclosed provision on the contract that both parties agreed to and signed on 1187 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:31,600 to when the contract was signed. 1188 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:36,400 This is not the least for me, I'll speak for myself, an attempt to force the coyotes out of Glendale 1189 01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,640 by any stretch of the imagination. 1190 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,680 So far as I'm concerned, the coyotes are welcome to play next season, the season after 1191 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:48,520 and every season after that, provided that we have an agreement that works for both parties 1192 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,160 and works in the best interest of the Citizens of the Glendale. 1193 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:57,840 The agreement that's in place now does not do that, and we have an obligation. 1194 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:02,720 I know I feel an obligation to the Citizens of our City to act in there behalf to make 1195 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,520 the best to move towards the best possible agreement. 1196 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:13,760 Now I know that the coyotes were given the opportunity to renegotiate this contract 1197 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,600 and they refused repeatedly. 1198 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:21,240 That's what's brought us here tonight, nothing else, that's what's brought us here tonight. 1199 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,560 We're here as a result of their refusal to renegotiate this contract, so let us look forward 1200 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:33,560 to perhaps in good faith within integrity negotiating a new contract. 1201 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:38,560 The City of Glendale are not the one threatening legal action, lawsuits, attorneys, fees 1202 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:44,040 and all of that, that's coming from the coyotes, that will be their choice if they choose 1203 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,040 to do it. 1204 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,480 It's not necessary. 1205 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:53,400 If this could be renegotiate, if the existing contract could be renegotiated to avoid 1206 01:27:53,400 --> 01:28:04,920 that, a new contract could be agreed on, they would avoid that as well. 1207 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,720 I think that's all I need to say at the time, Mayor. 1208 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:07,720 Thank you. 1209 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:08,720 Thank you. 1210 01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:09,720 Mayor. 1211 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,720 That's been a real drama. 1212 01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:19,160 Mayor, I want to explain the reason why I cast it emotion earlier. 1213 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:25,680 Isn't my district know that I'm a pro-business, a community member and a council member? 1214 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,200 Those in my district that know me, no, I'm always pro-business, I'm not against business. 1215 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,880 My district, large portion of my district is business owners, a lot of them don't live in 1216 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:40,640 Glendale, I'm not living in the district, but they pay taxes in Glendale and therefore I truly 1217 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:45,400 believe in businesses and I truly believe that extending to all the branches of the right thing 1218 01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,200 to do tonight. 1219 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:53,120 The right thing to do tonight was to send our staff back to a room with the other organization 1220 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,760 and talk about it and find a resolution because I truly, truly believe we could have reached 1221 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,040 a resolution. 1222 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:05,560 Folks at the end of the day, I have a position to ensure the highest ethical standards of the 1223 01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:12,400 city of Glendale and the highest integrity that we can possibly deliver to business owners 1224 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,840 and to our citizens. 1225 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:19,720 And frankly, I will utilize that integrity to cast the vote today. 1226 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:28,000 I am considerably disappointed that the rest of the council didn't support send this back 1227 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:32,400 for two weeks and it wasn't going to take two weeks to do that. 1228 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,400 We could have done that tonight, we could have done that tomorrow morning and we could have 1229 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:42,280 called for a special meeting, but it was truly my attempt to extend the olive branch to 1230 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:49,120 an organization, to work together, to come to resolution, unfortunately that failed and I will 1231 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:55,840 cast the vote today based on that highest ethical standards and the integrity of the city. 1232 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,400 So thank you very much for being here. 1233 01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,600 I appreciate each and every one of you guys. 1234 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:00,600 Thank you. 1235 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,000 Thank you, Mayor. I'd also like to thank everyone for coming out tonight. And I do support businesses. I support the taxpayers. I was elected to make tough decisions. And the provisions in the contract at the city executes with every contract that we do that 38-11 is in there to protect you, the taxpayers. 1236 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:35,000 There's a talented pool of people to hire in this valley that don't work for the city of Lundell. 1237 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:42,000 And that is to protect taxpayers, why it's in the contract. And if you don't mind, I'd like to ask Mr. Bowers. 1238 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:50,000 Did anybody from the county's management reach out to you to avoid this meeting this evening? 1239 01:30:50,000 --> 01:31:01,000 Mayor, members of the Council of Council of Council, Donald Trump, not specifically, but we've had discussions within the last several days, including with the mayor. 1240 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,000 Thank you. 1241 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,000 Not specifically. 1242 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,000 Briefage? 1243 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:07,000 Okay. 1244 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,000 Council member Sherry, are you still there? 1245 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,000 Yes, I am. 1246 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,000 Okay, you have any comments? 1247 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:21,000 I do. I, again, I appreciate the testimonies from the audience tonight. 1248 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:26,000 Especially Mr. Wood, Mr. LeBlanc, Councilman, Shabita. 1249 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:33,000 You took a lot of my words away two years ago. This was a very difficult decision. 1250 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:39,000 The saga had been going on for five years. We weren't in the best position. 1251 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:45,000 But again, it was pointed out. The city was in a financial free fall. 1252 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:53,000 And I've always been of the opinion that you have to have hockey in that arena to continue the build-up of Westgate on the surrounding area. 1253 01:31:53,000 --> 01:32:00,000 That was true before the downturn when we had all that development that was to take place south of the stadium. 1254 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:06,000 That was all funded and preliminary platter proof that went by the wayside again during the downturn. 1255 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,000 And many of those went into receivership and some just pull back. Those are slowly coming back. 1256 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:16,000 Slowly coming back into into the fold. 1257 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:24,000 I was really disappointed in our meeting yesterday that we couldn't have taken this more private for a week or so. 1258 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:33,000 And gone to the organization and let them know the feelings of the council that we had to do this in public. 1259 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:40,000 The forces can be very nasty. Neither organization can really afford legal expenses right now. 1260 01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:44,000 But that seems like that's what this could turn into. 1261 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:53,000 That's money better well spent on getting the Senate city healthy and for their priorities to continue their health. 1262 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,000 And again, I'm very disappointed. 1263 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:07,000 And actually a little Paul Gold on this on his there's on a statue on on how this can even come into play and I guess we'll learn. 1264 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:18,000 We'll learn more on that as time goes on, but this is as we've heard testimony, especially from Mr. Chitzel. 1265 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:25,000 That, you know, it seemed like the coyote's organization was going to be a little bit better this year than what they were last year. 1266 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:40,000 And then possibly the third year was going to be great even get to down to the 6 million that we had originally budget budget for arena management and what those RFPs were coming in for a non hockey owner managed arena. 1267 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:45,000 And you know, we just had to give some time. 1268 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:54,000 We believe and I don't have this firsthand by any means that the new ownership of the coyotes came on later than sooner. 1269 01:33:54,000 --> 01:34:02,000 And you know, whatever held that process up where Mr. Bearway didn't come into the fold to the very last day of December. 1270 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:08,000 That kept them from probably improving the product on the ice at that point. 1271 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:20,000 And I know that's their goal for this upcoming season. So again, I'm just very disappointed. It is a bit of an embarrassment to the city that we're airing this out publicly. 1272 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:34,000 And I'm disappointed in it. I, as you everyone knows, I've been for this deal again probably not certainly not the best for the city, but the best that we could get at the time. 1273 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:47,000 Many, you know, as Mr. Savita said, we came in with the cards that were already dealt with us and we made the best of it. So I guess I don't need to say anything more. 1274 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:53,000 I'm not for going forward with breaking this contract. Thank you. 1275 01:34:54,000 --> 01:35:05,000 I just have a quick comment, but what I'm looking at here tonight is the statute 3511. That's what I'm voting on. 1276 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:18,000 Is an agreement that needs to be an agreement that meets our state law. That's why that's written into the agreement. It's not about hockey. It is about the integrity of the process. 1277 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:31,000 Mayor. I would support if I may. Thank you, Mayor. The question I'd like to ask of our city attorney. 1278 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:47,000 It's, it's my understanding that at the request of direction of the council that the mayor of the vice mayor, the city manager and yourself met on Monday with Mr. Barroway. 1279 01:35:47,000 --> 01:36:05,000 Mr. LeBlanc and express that among other things in the conversation, but as a significant point of the conversation that the city felt that we had legal grounds to cancel this contract. 1280 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:19,000 And they were asked several times if they were interested in willing to renegotiate the contract and my understanding is the response was no. That's never going to happen. 1281 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:27,000 Is that an accurate description of the situation and is my understanding of the questioning and response accurate thing. 1282 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:33,000 Mayor and council member Turner that is correct. Thank you, Mayor. 1283 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:40,000 Okay, if there's no other discussion, we're going to conduct a roll call vote. We do have a motion in a second. 1284 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:44,000 Starting with council member. Hold down. How do you vote? Aye. 1285 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,000 Council member Chaveta, how do you vote? 1286 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,000 Mayor, can you ask a question again, Mayor? Please, for me. 1287 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,000 Council member Chaveta, how do you vote? 1288 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:57,000 I am not in favor of what we're doing today. 1289 01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:04,000 And so your vote would be cashed. I or nay. My vote be cast. 1290 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,000 Why guess it is name for this deal? 1291 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,000 Council member Sherwood. 1292 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,000 May. 1293 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,000 Council member Tom Chav. 1294 01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,000 Aye. 1295 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,000 Council member Turner. Aye. 1296 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,000 Vice Mayor. Aye. 1297 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:26,000 Okay, and I'm going to explain my vote because I've been pretty silent on this. 1298 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:36,000 We've all taken a beating here tonight and I think most of it's been unjust because I think most of the fans don't understand the complexity of this issue. 1299 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:40,000 I'm not insulting you. I'm not speaking to you. I'm speaking. 1300 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:50,000 Okay, folks, we're not going there. If this starts, I'll have you removed tonight. So please allow me the opportunity to explain my vote. 1301 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,000 Thank you. 1302 01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,000 The complexity of this issue is the fact that you don't have all the information. 1303 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,000 The information comes out, I think, more and more. 1304 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,000 You might have a better understanding. 1305 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,000 At the same time, I understand your passion. 1306 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:09,000 I don't know if any fans, more than hockey, that really get into their sport. 1307 01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:10,000 And I applaud you for that. 1308 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:14,000 And the comment made earlier about me not showing up and up. 1309 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,000 Participate. That's not true. 1310 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:20,000 That's that's your opinion and everybody has opinions. 1311 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:29,000 The fact is, I believe, as the majority of this council does, that there was a violation of Arizona State revised statutes. 1312 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:36,000 And those were put there specifically to protect the taxpayers, the citizens of our city, the citizens of Arizona. 1313 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,000 And I believe that they were violated. 1314 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,000 And I don't care how good of a deal it is. 1315 01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,000 If you break the law, you're breaking a law. 1316 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,000 There is no exception. 1317 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,000 If you're breaking a law, it's wrong. 1318 01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,000 It's wrong. 1319 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,000 And we believe that we have legal firm ground. 1320 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:59,000 I have to tell you, I hope and pray that there's some solution to keep in the coyotes here. 1321 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:02,000 And I express that. 1322 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:06,000 But if not, then I guess we'll figure out what happens in the future. 1323 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,000 I can't tell the future. 1324 01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,000 I certainly want the coyotes to stay here. 1325 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,000 I'm very proud of the team. 1326 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,000 I think that they have an opportunity later. 1327 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,000 But as of right now, Arizona revised statutes. 1328 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,000 We're here. 1329 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:24,000 We all hold our right hand up and we swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States. 1330 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,000 And some of you may not care about that. 1331 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,000 I take that very seriously. 1332 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,000 I take that very seriously. 1333 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:33,000 So with that, I do vote. 1334 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,000 I, the motion does carry. 1335 01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:41,000 And with that, we're going to move on to council, comments and suggestions. 1336 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:46,000 I will start with council member Eldama. 1337 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,000 Yes, Mayor. 1338 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:48,000 Thank you. 1339 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:52,000 I'm going to go into our residence. 1340 01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:57,000 I don't want my vote to be misconstrued as anti-business because I'm not. 1341 01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:02,000 And again, I'll just repeat those who know me know that I'm four business owners. 1342 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:07,000 But I'm also a council member who will hold up the letter of the law. 1343 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:13,000 And at this point, I'll serve this committee and serve them well. 1344 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,000 And ensure that we're doing the right thing for our citizens. 1345 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,000 And that's what I feel I've done tonight. 1346 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:23,000 And so I wanted to make sure that my vote is not misconstrued as anti-business because I'm not. 1347 01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:32,000 But Mayor, before I end on a different subject, I like to take this opportunity. 1348 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,000 Mayor, to recognize, but hey, catch them. 1349 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:39,000 But hey, catch them is the Navajo Kotaku who passed away on Monday. 1350 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:43,000 United States Marine and Congressional Silver Medal of Honor. 1351 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:49,000 I'm not a Marine and never been a soldier, but my brother was and still is. 1352 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,000 And if he was here today, Bura, Mr. catch them. 1353 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,000 And thank you so much for your services to this country. 1354 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:57,000 Thank you, Mayor. 1355 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:58,000 Thank you. 1356 01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,000 Thank you, Mayor. 1357 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,000 Once again, I want to just thank all of you for being here today. 1358 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:09,000 And I'm just going to reaffirm my commitment to the citizens of Glendale. 1359 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,000 I'm going to reaffirm my commitment to the Employees of Glendale. 1360 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:16,000 And I'm especially going to reaffirm my commitment to the merchants of Westgate. 1361 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,000 Thank you. 1362 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,000 I'll never sure would. 1363 01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,000 Thank you, Mayor. 1364 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,000 I was head off in the very beginning. 1365 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:29,000 But I guess I'm disappointed that we kept a cap on the time for our audience to speak. 1366 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,000 I've been a council for two and a half years. 1367 01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:32,000 I hadn't seen that before. 1368 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:37,000 I know we sometimes gone from a five minute time frame to a three minute on agenda items. 1369 01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:42,000 But I was disappointed that we didn't get to hear all those that came tonight to speak. 1370 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:46,000 But I think the message is loud and clear that there's a lot of disappointment out there. 1371 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,000 Thank you. 1372 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,000 That's never done much. 1373 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:49,000 Nothing, Mayor. 1374 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:50,000 That's never done. 1375 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,000 Mayor, the only thing. 1376 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:58,000 Excuse me, the only common I would have is that to the best of my knowledge and observation. 1377 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:02,000 And unfortunately, Mr. Sher would not being president is unable to see the room. 1378 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:07,000 But to the best of my observation, everybody who wanted to speak got this chance to speak. 1379 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,000 And I had a full three minute time frame in which to do so. 1380 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,000 So thank you. 1381 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,000 Thank you. 1382 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:13,000 Thank you. 1383 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,000 Vice Mayor. 1384 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,000 Nothing, Mayor. 1385 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,000 Thank you. 1386 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,000 Okay. 1387 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:24,000 And what's sad is that there's nothing else from the council that does conclude our business with no objection. 1388 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,000 Meetings adjourned. 1389 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,000 Thank you.