[0:00] [Music] [1:13] good afternoon calling to order the um [1:17] city council meeting of August 29th at [1:20] 4:05 p.m. may we have a roll call please [1:23] council member aadrian here dine here [1:27] kakin [1:28] narian and mayor bman here and may we [1:33] have your report uh close Session One [1:36] close session 18 conference with legal [1:37] council pending litigation sadari versus [1:40] city of glendel LC case number [1:44] 20cv [1:46] 34372 B would be conference with legal [1:48] councel pending litigation at Garian [1:50] versus the city of glendel at all lasc [1:53] case number 21 STC V [1:56] 0756 and itmc has been moved to further [2:00] date thank you do we anticipate [2:02] reporting out on any of these items uh [2:04] Mr Mayor we anticipate reporting on item [2:06] 1 a 1 a okay uh no public comments I [2:11] assume so we will com no calls we will [2:14] recess to close [2:28] session [2:49] [Music] [5:31] good evening and welcome to the August [5:33] 29th meeting of the Glendale city [5:35] council being called to order at 6:04 [5:37] pm. may we have roll call please yes [5:40] council members aadan Divine here kakan [5:44] here naaran mayor botman [5:47] here uh now uh would everybody please [5:51] rise for the Pledge of [5:54] Allegiance repeat after me I pledge [5:57] allegiance to the flag of the United [6:00] States of America and to the Republic [6:03] for which it stands one nation under God [6:06] indivisible with liberty and justice for [6:09] all please remain standing for the [6:16] invocation I will read a modified [6:18] excerpt from an invocation by hila [6:20] rabi this land we dwell upon today is [6:24] the ancestral land of the Gabrielino [6:26] Tanga people we acknowledge their hisor [6:29] oral roots in this place and the many [6:31] generations who are stewards of this [6:34] land the Earth was here before us and [6:36] will endure after we are [6:38] gone let us walk gently upon this [6:41] precious Planet taking only what we need [6:44] leaving little waste nurturing the soil [6:47] revitalizing the land to sustain future [6:50] Generations thank you thank you you may [6:53] be [6:55] seated [6:58] okay uh Madame clerk may we have your [7:01] report please yes the agenda for the [7:04] August 29 2023 regular meeting of the [7:07] Glendale city council was posted on [7:08] August 24th 2023 on the bulletin board [7:11] outside City Hall thank you and what is [7:15] our next item next our presentations and [7:18] appointments the first one is um [7:20] regarding the agenda the regular meeting [7:23] for the city council on September 5th [7:25] 2023 has have been cancelled the next [7:28] regular meeting will be held on [7:30] September 12th [7:32] 2023 okay and before you read out the [7:35] next item [7:38] um is um is Talia hpan here in the [7:43] audience she's there okay I know council [7:46] member asatrian wanted to address you so [7:49] can we just move the order on the chance [7:53] that she will show up oh there she is [7:57] um well [8:00] in that case let's let's just go on then [8:02] she is here so let's go on with [8:05] that um uh Commendation for Talia hpan [8:09] California Bears Youth Hockey [8:12] Club thank you and I going to turn this [8:16] over to the just in time council member [8:20] asatrian to read the Commendation and um [8:26] and maybe as she does this could um [8:28] Talia and her family come up to the [8:30] podium [8:37] please um before uh I read the [8:40] Commendation I just want to give [8:42] everyone a little bit of a background uh [8:45] I have the honor of introducing and [8:47] recognizing a young Trail Blazer in [8:51] glendell uh Talia hpan is 11 years old [8:56] who is um here with her parents Anie and [9:01] shahnur uh she plays leftwing with [9:04] California Bears Youth Hockey Club and [9:07] coached by former National Hockey League [9:10] player Alexander [9:12] frolov uh Talia is the only female [9:15] player on the boys travel team and has [9:18] participated in tournaments throughout [9:20] the United States um she has a very long [9:24] resume um but I do want to note that um [9:27] in July 2023 three um she was uh one of [9:33] two of her achievements included uh [9:35] number one in tournament goals scored 14 [9:39] and 18 points and she was named player [9:42] of the game [9:44] award um and then in the regular season [9:49] um she helped the team play second in [9:52] California um if we can give her a round [9:55] of [9:58] applause [9:59] [Applause] [10:02] um and the commodation it's the mayor's [10:04] commodation and it reads presented to [10:07] Talia hpan in recognition of your [10:10] exceptional accomplishments and [10:11] unwavering dedication as the sole female [10:14] hockey player on a boy team your [10:17] commitment to the sport your teammates [10:19] and your community serves as an [10:21] inspiring example of perseverance [10:24] resilience and breaking down barriers on [10:28] behalf of the city of we wish you [10:30] continued success and assigned mayor Dan [10:33] brotman Right [10:35] congratulations congratulations you want [10:38] to go down and do a [10:40] picture we'll do a photo op [10:43] first are we all doing it yeah you want [10:47] to might as well let's [10:58] go [11:15] abuse discrimination The Voice were good [11:17] to you all [11:20] know hi are we we'll just the back want [11:26] to go over [11:27] here [11:39] that thank you thank you thank you very [11:49] much we might want to ask you a [11:57] question [12:09] so [12:10] Talia what is T Talia what is your [12:13] favorite team for professional hockey [12:16] valet Kings all right that was the right [12:18] answer good [12:18] [Laughter] [12:20] job uh we asked you to stay there for a [12:22] minute because we have a [12:25] former [12:27] um coach coach and [12:30] teacher um here who may have may have a [12:33] question well I I just well I did what [12:36] you know um back in the day when I was [12:38] coaching and Girls Athletic Director Etc [12:41] we had one girl that was on the soccer [12:44] team the boys soccer team and she had a [12:47] real problem with harassment and um uh [12:51] kind of abuse that we had to deal with [12:54] and so I was asking Tanya if she [12:56] experienced any of that and she said [12:59] no no and that's that speaks volumes uh [13:04] for today's um Sports Athletics and uh [13:08] uh boys and girls playing together and [13:11] so [13:12] congratulations uh you are Paving the [13:15] way for others and uh uh I wish you all [13:18] the best thank you you're welcome you [13:26] congratulations okay on that fun note um [13:31] what is [13:34] next next is the identification of [13:37] nominating panel for building and fire [13:39] board of appeals commission uh kakan and [13:43] divine thank you and there's no action [13:47] right [13:49] no and next is the appointment of ARA [13:52] hataman to the Civil Service Commission [13:54] uh by brotman and divine [13:57] 82223 [13:59] okay um yes uh Mr hatamian if you could [14:03] come forward and if you would like to [14:05] bring your lovely [14:07] family uh they can they can join [14:13] you we had the pleasure of Hosting them [14:16] here and they sat right in this chair [14:19] and hel a mock council meeting I do want [14:23] to thank Talia for going before [14:25] me you broke the ice get it hocky [14:29] both eyes that's a bad J okay so we'll [14:33] first take uh a motion and a second and [14:35] a vote do we [14:37] have I'll move our atamian for civil [14:40] service commissioner a second second [14:42] from council member asatrian very good [14:44] so let's have a roll call please council [14:47] members zadan yes Divine yes kakan yes [14:51] Naran mayor botman yes congrats uh [14:57] congratulations thank you [15:00] so [15:01] um as you know but the audience may not [15:04] know uh you were chosen through [15:06] initially well you were chosen here by [15:08] the vote that just took place but you [15:10] were nominated uh to this Council by um [15:14] uh council member Divine and myself [15:16] through a panel process which we have [15:19] just started so we had a panel of two we [15:21] interviewed a number of candidates a [15:23] number of very strong [15:25] candidates um but you clearly stood out [15:29] I would say um with your your experience [15:32] at work and also the fact that you have [15:34] done this before um and um I believe had [15:39] to step down from the commission because [15:42] uh of a family new child who's now which [15:46] which one two of them oh two of them [15:49] okay but now you're back with us and [15:51] we're very very excited to have you here [15:53] um so congratulations and if there's [15:56] something you would like to say uh [15:58] please uh feel fre thank you Mr bran [16:01] thank you glenell city council for uh [16:04] giving me this pleasure to serve the [16:05] city once again um it is a true honor to [16:09] be a commissioner I brought my family [16:11] along just as an example of you know [16:14] what glendel produces they are a product [16:16] of glendell Unified School District uh [16:19] my youngest one attends Mark keple uh my [16:22] oldest one is at toll and my middle one [16:25] is still at Mark keple also as a matter [16:27] of fact my old this one was the treasure [16:29] for marle and I just found out that we [16:32] also have additional toll students here [16:35] also uh so that's why I brought my [16:37] family along just as a representation of [16:39] glendell so I do want to thank you for [16:42] this opportunity and I look forward to [16:43] serving the city thank you very much [16:45] thank you very awesome thank you for [16:46] your willingness to serve [16:49] again of backgound oh before you before [16:52] you go Mr atamian could you just spend [16:56] one or two minutes telling us about your [16:58] backr ground oh absolutely so so we all [17:00] know yes who you are we talked about it [17:02] a little bit last last week when we [17:04] nominated you but absolutely it be my [17:06] pleasure so I work for LA County um I [17:11] started in LA county at the DA's office [17:13] when I was attending Law School uh I [17:15] worked in their PR prelim unit uh after [17:18] that point on I went into the [17:20] disciplinary section of the sheriff's [17:21] apartment uh where I worked for 14 years [17:25] uh administrating law enforcement [17:27] discipline [17:29] uh and now I'm with the Department of [17:30] Mental Health I am their manager over [17:33] their health and safety and employee [17:36] relations unit uh and right now we are [17:39] facing many different challenges uh at [17:41] the Department of Mental Health mainly [17:43] being homelessness the homelessness [17:45] crisis uh and so we are actively [17:47] involved with that and obviously prior [17:50] to that I was on the commission on the [17:52] Civil Service Commission uh outside of [17:54] the commission and working for LA County [17:57] I was also Al a teacher uh I've been [18:00] teaching as an adjunct faculty for [18:04] colleges in this area uh I've published [18:07] a book on employment law um so I have a [18:10] little bit of background on employment [18:11] law and the government sector my [18:14] beautiful wife she also works in the [18:16] government sector she works for County [18:18] Council she's an attorney for their [18:19] dependency unit that deals with the [18:21] foster care system of children uh so we [18:25] pride ourselves on serving the community [18:28] and um especially the you know the jeel [18:30] city as much as we can thank you thank [18:33] you thank you we're very very happy to [18:35] to have you and um you know free Talent [18:40] it's uh pretty [18:41] incredible we'll talk about that [18:44] later thank you so much appreciate it [18:47] thank you for your willingness to come [18:48] back and serve thank you thank you good [18:50] job okay and what is [18:56] next next our consent items including [18:59] minutes the following our routina may be [19:01] acted upon by one motion any member of [19:03] council or the audience requesting [19:05] separate consideration may do so by [19:07] making such requests before motion is [19:09] proposed uh do we have any uh public [19:13] comments we do not have any public [19:16] comments and do any I I'll move the [19:18] conent calendar we have a motion I'll [19:21] second second okay roll call [19:24] please council members aadrian yes [19:27] divine yes kakan yes Nan mayor botman [19:33] yes very good moving right along what is [19:36] next next our city council and staff [19:39] comments okay sure council member Divine [19:43] thank you thank you very much um as most [19:46] of you [19:47] know um we are currently working the [19:50] airport authority of which I am a member [19:53] along with council member narian [19:55] currently working on the replacement [19:57] Passenger Terminal project and um holder [20:01] panal Tech that it's a a joint venture [20:05] uh will be holding a sub subcontractor [20:09] Community information session they are [20:12] looking for local community uh [20:15] businesses uh to take part in the [20:18] building the construction of the new [20:21] airport they are holding this um [20:23] information session on September the [20:26] 12th uh at the uh Courtyard by Marriott [20:30] um by the airport in Burbank from 10:00 [20:33] a. until noon they will be um hosting [20:36] this regarding construction [20:38] opportunities for this replacement [20:40] terminal they are seriously looking for [20:44] local business women's businesses [20:48] minorities and local businesses [20:51] contractors and [20:53] dbe um we are going to be posting the uh [20:57] invitation the information on uh our [21:00] website they're going to provide [21:02] critical information for project [21:05] participation they will have schedule [21:07] and trade package information in-person [21:09] connection with jvt members and [21:12] in-person connection with possible trade [21:14] Partners they are also and this is [21:16] interesting they're also going to be [21:18] working with our high schools uh for [21:21] apprenticeships and Workforce [21:23] opportunities uh if you're interested in [21:25] this uh session if you are a contractor [21:28] a businesswoman uh a minority who was [21:31] interested in working on this airport [21:33] project again it will be on September [21:35] the 12th at Courtyard by Marriott at [21:39] 2100 Empire Drive in Burbank from 10:00 [21:43] a.m. until noon it's a terrific [21:45] opportunity so I hope uh uh many of you [21:49] will will um uh try to get information [21:52] on this and be there uh there is a [21:55] website the website is H PT standing for [21:59] holder panow Tech JV [22:03] team.com so if you're interested [22:05] otherwise you can check our our website [22:08] um I would also like to take this [22:09] opportunity as you know Council has been [22:12] uh working on Outreach for quite a while [22:14] regarding districting and a couple of us [22:17] advis uh us to wait until the Santa [22:19] Monica case against districting was [22:22] resolved well Santa Monica was [22:25] successful in their case so my question [22:28] now is should we keep moving and rushing [22:30] forward or should we pause the decision [22:33] by the courts bodess well for Glendale [22:36] not being forced into districting and an [22:38] elected mayor again I ask should we [22:41] pause on this action this is a [22:42] rhetorical question and I'm only telling [22:45] this so that our residents know the [22:46] outcome of that case thank you thank you [22:49] mayor thank you and when we're finish [22:52] this Council comments I will ask the [22:54] City attorney to say a word because um [22:57] depending depending on what you read [22:58] I've I've read that Santa Monica lost [23:01] I've read that Santa Monica won and I've [23:03] read things in between so I'm not sure [23:05] we know yet um but um let me turn to my [23:11] colleagues any comments council member [23:14] of Satan um I actually have a couple of [23:16] things um one is I noticed that we have [23:19] a counseling your neighborhood uh coming [23:22] up um I think one of the recommendations [23:24] I had made to staff uh after the last [23:26] one was for us to do um Outreach whether [23:30] it's flyers in that neighborhood or [23:33] using data that we have to reach our [23:35] residents within that neighborhood um to [23:38] get folks to actually come to these uh [23:41] counseling your neighborhoods I think [23:42] the one that we had in the Rancher was [23:44] very successful uh the one that we had [23:47] in um at the Pacific uh Park not so much [23:52] and so um I think it would be important [23:54] if we are doing these um for the [23:57] community to be made aware and that it's [23:59] not just an agenda item that's placed um [24:03] on Sunday U mayor bman and I uh attended [24:07] the grand reopening of the montro uh [24:10] Bowl um they have done a fantastic job [24:14] at uh uh keeping the 1940s theme and [24:18] Lanes uh got to throw some bowling balls [24:23] uh down that lane um and they've [24:25] Incorporated an all vegan and all kosher [24:29] kitchen uh I have to say they you know I [24:31] was skeptical as I always am um about [24:34] something being called chicken but it's [24:36] not um it was possibly the best hot [24:38] chicken sandwich I've had um I know that [24:41] they're going to be doing a community [24:43] event um uh as their part of their [24:46] opening and so I look forward to sharing [24:49] that um or have staff share that when we [24:51] get it um this last week I also had [24:55] scheduled a meeting with our staff and [24:58] La County's um Economic Development [25:02] Department and procurement uh office um [25:05] for us to take a look at um how we can [25:08] move forward with the locally owned [25:10] minority and and women-owned uh test [25:13] that we have as part of the work plan um [25:16] one of the things that we learned [25:17] through that process is that the LA [25:19] county is currently going through a [25:22] revamp of their own procurement process [25:25] and kind of building out um different [25:28] methods of communication and uh [25:31] databases and so forth one of the things [25:33] I did mention was the opportunity for us [25:36] to obtain the information that they have [25:40] um and for that data sharing to be uh [25:43] something that's automatic and it's not [25:45] something that we're requesting through [25:46] our different departments um I know that [25:49] they're putting together a task force [25:51] for some reason glendel is not part of [25:52] that so one of my requests was also to [25:56] uh invite glendell to the table and for [25:58] us to have input um in that process that [26:01] they have um and then lastly um last [26:07] week we um you know recognized women's [26:11] equality day and talked about [26:13] programming and this morning I saw that [26:16] we are having a webinar tomorrow [26:19] um uh and recognition of women's [26:22] equality day uh you can join this [26:25] webinar to learn uh how women owned [26:28] minority uh owned business certification [26:31] can help you gain government utility and [26:34] private sector contracts um uh you can [26:38] register uh at bitly backpac webinar uh [26:43] all this information is available at CH [26:46] glendel and the webinar is going to take [26:48] place tomorrow August 30th um 10 a.m. to [26:52] 12:00 p.m. so I encourage all of our [26:54] small business owners um who own you [26:57] know local minority or women owned um to [27:00] join in I think that very well ties in [27:02] with um the opportunities that council [27:05] member Divine was talking [27:07] about thank you thank you thank you [27:10] council member [27:12] kakan um I don't have anything but I I [27:15] don't know I'm looking for the the an [27:19] article that would affirm what my [27:21] colleague council member dine derived [27:24] from the court case and I'm having [27:26] trouble finding including Santa Monica's [27:29] own City website which says City [27:31] statement on California Supreme Court [27:33] opinion on CV case says the city is [27:36] reviewing the Supreme Court's opinion [27:38] and working to assess the path forward [27:41] and there's a number of others as well [27:43] that uh here's another [27:46] headline um that [27:48] [Music] [27:50] says well I'll tell you none of them say [27:53] what I think a council member Divine so [27:56] strongly feels it said so um I would [28:00] also like to understand whether this [28:02] somehow puts Glendale in the clear or is [28:05] a uh sweeping decision that that is that [28:09] some are trying to make the public [28:11] believe it [28:13] is um other than that I honestly don't [28:16] have any other comments okay thank you [28:20] okay thank [28:24] you one I just I just want to make sure [28:27] we clarify on I know we passed a consent [28:30] but just on the agenda itself it's at [28:33] maruni in Armenia um and it needed to be [28:36] maruni in art just want to make sure [28:38] that in the docs it's all corrected that [28:41] the resolution was corrected to reflect [28:43] out okay thank you okay thank you um [28:47] okay so a couple things last Wednesday [28:52] um council member kasaki and I attended [28:55] a uh press conference confence uh in [28:58] front of the uh [29:00] aeri uh [29:02] consulate um in Los Angeles it was put [29:06] on by the panarmenian Council of the [29:08] western United States and the intention [29:11] was to um speak on the human [29:15] humanitarian crisis that's unfolding in [29:17] artso with the [29:19] blockade uh now going on for over seven [29:22] months preventing food medicine and [29:25] other uh urgently needed supplies uh [29:28] from entering the country um there were [29:32] a number of uh prominent uh people who [29:35] spoke including uh our congressman Adam [29:38] Schiff uh Congressman Brad [29:41] Sherman uh LA City Council president [29:43] Paul korian was there along with uh at [29:46] least two of his colleagues from the LA [29:48] City Council uh and a number of other uh [29:51] individuals um uh members of the clergy [29:55] and um council member kasaki and I both [29:58] uh both spoke uh he spoke a lot more [30:01] eloquently than me as is usually the [30:03] case um but we we did both speak and [30:07] um and you know I uh and many others [30:10] talked about uh the fact that there are [30:13] 120,000 innocent people now trapped uh [30:17] without access to uh the basic needs uh [30:22] of of human beings um and that includes [30:25] 30,000 children 20,000 elderly and [30:29] almost 10,000 disabled people on the [30:33] verge of [30:34] starvation um and uh at this press [30:38] conference uh we uh all jointly and [30:42] individually called on the US government [30:45] to take uh immediate and aggressive [30:48] steps to address this issue including [30:51] and I'll just name some of the things [30:53] that were um that were discussed uh one [30:58] introduce a un Security Council [31:00] resolution which would require azerbajan [31:02] to adhere to a February 2023 order by [31:06] the international court of justice to [31:09] open the Locking carridor which is how [31:12] uh materials can enter the Republic of [31:14] artak um halt all US military assistance [31:17] to azerbijan it is quite uh shocking [31:22] that the United States still is [31:24] providing military assistance to aeran [31:27] uh impose sanctions on members of the [31:30] alv regime under the magnitsky act for [31:34] war crimes crimes against humanity [31:37] deliver humanitarian assistance to artso [31:39] through the carer uh at the scale needed [31:42] to address the humanitarian catastrophe [31:45] and last but not least introduce a un [31:48] Security Council resolution establishing [31:51] a peacekeeping mission in artach to [31:54] protect the um the the safety of um the [31:59] population there over time um one thing [32:03] that was mentioned um which uh doesn't [32:06] necessarily uh do anything to resolve [32:09] the situation but um it does bring [32:11] attention to it the LA City Council uh [32:15] named the intersection in front of the [32:17] aeri consulate which is uh Wilshire and [32:19] Granville Avenue Republic of artso [32:23] square uh so signs will be going up [32:25] maybe they've already gone up [32:28] um at that location right in front of [32:30] the aeran consulate um and uh for what [32:36] it's worth I think that's uh that's [32:38] something that does uh does uh send a [32:42] strong symbolic message um so I just [32:45] wanted to share that um that we were [32:47] there and that we we support these [32:51] um [32:53] uh these actions that were calling on [32:56] the Biden admin Administration the US [32:57] state department to uh undertake okay so [33:01] that was one um changing subjects [33:03] entirely I attended um the first edible [33:07] food recovery stakeholder meeting um as [33:12] many of you may know um under Senate [33:14] Bill [33:15] 1383 in addition to sorting organic [33:18] waste um there are requirements uh [33:21] involving recovery of edible food that [33:24] would otherwise get thrown away so um [33:27] uh this was a uh one of I think several [33:30] meetings uh that will be taking place [33:33] this one for um organizations that are [33:37] collecting edible food from the [33:39] generators of edible food um to [33:42] distribute either directly to people in [33:44] need or to other food banks um and they [33:48] got together they discussed the [33:49] challenges that that they have it it is [33:51] actually very [33:53] complex um and uh and the the the idea [33:57] was to identify resources share uh share [34:00] experiences and start the conversation [34:03] um future meetings uh will include some [34:06] of the large um producers of um edible [34:11] food that would otherwise go to waste [34:13] like supermarkets and and [34:15] restaurants uh [34:16] hotels uh conference facilities that [34:19] kind of thing um so they had there were [34:22] a number of people at this event um YWCA [34:25] Salvation Army Glend College Catholic [34:28] Charities uh The Armenian Relief Society [34:31] Porto uh Betty Porto was there uh the [34:33] City of Burbank was there the First [34:35] Baptist Church and a number of others uh [34:37] it was uh it was interesting and I look [34:40] forward to seeing us continue to um make [34:44] progress on this [34:46] front and um the Montrose Bowl my [34:49] colleague already mentioned uh we got to [34:51] throw uh a few um what do you call it [34:54] throw a few balls I guess you call it [34:57] uh what's that bowling balls yeah [34:59] bowling balls but um and uh I probably [35:03] got the gutter more often than I got [35:05] anything else but [35:06] um it was fun anyway and and I will say [35:10] I agree this this vegan food was really [35:14] pretty uh pretty incredible uh and they [35:16] also have a great collection of craft [35:18] beers some on top so if you if you like [35:21] that kind of thing are you rubbing your [35:24] hands like you want to get over there to [35:26] have some beer Orin disinfect okay as [35:30] soon as I said beer I saw you going like [35:32] that but anyway it's a they really did a [35:34] nice job so if you can get on over there [35:36] I think that was a soft opening and I [35:38] think they're probably open in the next [35:40] couple days so they going to send [35:41] something to everyone for the coming [35:43] they are and then they're going to have [35:44] an event I think at the end of the month [35:46] but I think they're actually going to be [35:47] open like you can go and I think if you [35:49] go and you order food the bowling is [35:51] free it's really focused on the food and [35:53] the bowling is kind of to bring you [35:55] there to eat the food I guess yes so [35:58] bowling is free um okay so just the last [36:02] thing I I um I know that we're now um [36:06] we've now established these um panels to [36:09] select members of our boards and [36:11] commissions and one thing we haven't [36:13] discussed and I was hoping we could try [36:15] to clarify is our process for um uh [36:20] notifying the public that there's an [36:22] opportunity on a border commission uh uh [36:25] soliciting applications and then doing [36:28] interviews and so I would I would [36:31] suggest that we look at some kind of a [36:34] system for example um once we notice uh [36:39] the public that this position is [36:40] available we have a 30-day period uh for [36:43] people to put in applications we wait [36:46] the 30 days we collect them we interview [36:48] the applicants um and we make our [36:51] selection and I would also ask us to [36:54] consider making the all all the [36:56] applications public they are public [36:58] record anyway but it would be good for [37:01] the public to understand who we've [37:02] selected and who we haven't selected um [37:06] The Only Exception I would say perhaps [37:09] is if we are extending or renominating [37:12] reappointing somebody I should say who [37:14] is already an incumbent on a border [37:16] commission for a second term I think if [37:18] we have somebody that we want to [37:20] renominate we probably don't need to go [37:22] through this 30-day period but anyway um [37:26] I don't want I'm being fairly [37:27] prescriptive about this but I know this [37:29] is something that we we can discuss and [37:31] and I'd like to put this on a future [37:34] agenda to to um just to clarify our [37:37] process council member kasaka I I I [37:39] don't know did you mention Alex Film [37:41] Society I did not okay okay and I I am [37:46] finished um do you want to mention that [37:48] yeah I I just want to mention uh thank [37:50] Alex Film Society and the glendel [37:52] Historical Society uh there was a [37:54] showing of the classic film noir mild [37:57] Mildred Pierce which for those of you [38:00] who may not know is was a novel set in [38:03] Glendale made into a um Hollywood movie [38:07] for which I believe it was Joan Crawford [38:09] who won an Academy Award uh I think her [38:11] only Academy Award I learned and then it [38:13] was recently remade um uh as a film [38:16] starring Kate Winslet but it's all about [38:19] a woman who rises from nothing to uh [38:22] become a very successful businesswoman [38:25] all right from here in Glendale in the [38:27] original black and white film um there [38:30] are scenes that were filmed here in [38:31] Glendale it was my first time seeing it [38:33] I thought it was great and more [38:34] importantly I thought that um lawn area [38:37] using the city's uh LED screen was a [38:40] great great um uh combination of [38:44] organizations working together um having [38:47] an outdoor movie night hopefully they'll [38:48] do more of those so mayor who does thank [38:52] you council member Divine and if I want [38:54] if I may I want to piggyback on what the [38:56] mayor was saying about the uh [38:57] commissions and there is an opening on [39:00] the historic preservation commission if [39:03] anyone out there is interested we didn't [39:05] we don't have any applications and so [39:07] I'd like to encourage anyone out there [39:09] that like is interested in uh historic [39:12] preservation to please please apply [39:14] thank you thank [39:16] you okay um staff comments would you Mr [39:21] Garcia would you care to if You' like me [39:23] to com elaborate too much uh because we [39:27] were analyzing the opinion but as you [39:29] noted the has been noted the California [39:32] Supreme Court did Issue its long awaited [39:33] a ruling in uh the case of Pico [39:36] neighborhood association versus city of [39:37] Santa Monica regarding the scope of the [39:40] California Voting Rights Act and whether [39:42] or not vote voter vote dilution which is [39:45] a a term of art meaning a process that [39:48] where an election system dilutes the [39:49] votes of pro protected class or minority [39:52] group and so one of the questions in [39:55] that case was whether or not that was a [39:56] required element uh in a voter uh [39:59] California Voting Rights Act case and [40:01] then if so what's the test well how do [40:02] you how do you prove vote vote dilution [40:04] so um the Supreme Court you know I I I [40:09] hesitate to say there was a Victor and a [40:10] loser because although it did reverse [40:12] the decision the court of appeal it did [40:14] remand it back to the court of appeal [40:16] for further analysis and uh essentially [40:20] what it said is you had to prove vote [40:21] dilution in in making such a claim and [40:24] that to show that uh vote Dil [40:26] established when under some lawful [40:28] alternative election system the minority [40:30] group would have the potential on its [40:32] own or with the help of crossover voters [40:34] to elect its preferred candidate and [40:36] that this can be shown through [40:37] evaluation of the facts and [40:38] circumstances of the jurisdiction [40:40] including the local agency circumstances [40:42] its election history and the design and [40:44] impact of the current system as well as [40:47] an alternative system so that's a that's [40:49] a lot there that's a mouthful um a lot [40:51] of lawyers are still looking at this and [40:53] seeing what it means we are going to [40:54] look at it our team is going to look at [40:56] at it and obviously because it involves [40:58] legal risk the assessment of legal risk [41:01] it will be a discussion for you know [41:03] close session uh but we will provide [41:05] that information to you you'll have it [41:07] before we get into the next round of [41:08] public hearings uh on our districting [41:11] process okay but would you say just just [41:15] I I always like to simplify things I [41:17] know you can't simplify things like this [41:19] but it was not a victory an outright [41:22] victory for either party for Santa [41:24] Monica or for [41:26] that's a fair assessment [41:28] correct okay and it's it's still then [41:31] the waters are still kind of murky as [41:33] far as yes what it takes to bring these [41:37] types of cases what it takes to defend [41:39] against these types of cases right what [41:41] it what it takes to prove that various [41:42] elements of a voting rights case [41:43] especially vote dilution and I'll note [41:45] you know uh the plaintiffs won in the [41:48] trial court Santa Monica won in the [41:50] court of appeal and you're right the [41:52] court of appeal although reversed the [41:54] the victory that Santa mon Santa Monica [41:56] got in the in the court of appeal [41:57] decision it it remanded it for further [41:59] analysis so there's no there's no [42:01] conclusion to that case they're still [42:02] either going to have to litigate that or [42:04] or decide to settle okay thank you uh [42:08] any other staff comments um mayor bman [42:10] if I may yes please um the city clerk's [42:14] uh social media web page does advertise [42:17] uh on the openings of boards and [42:18] commissions in fact we've created posts [42:20] in five different languages to um to be [42:24] accessible to the public so we have that [42:27] information also the boards and [42:28] commission's uh web page has a listing [42:30] of all the openings and how to apply um [42:33] for each [42:35] commission okay thank [42:37] you all right um if there no other [42:41] comments what is our next agenda item [42:44] our next item is commune event [42:46] announcements uh three minutes each we [42:49] have one um speaker [42:52] card okay uh is it Ida or or AA uh [42:59] anaran AA onaran [43:02] yes you have three minutes thank you so [43:05] much thank you Mr Mayor and members of [43:08] the [43:09] council I'm here to discuss um my name [43:12] is l andaran I'm from The Armenian bar [43:15] association's prono Clinic I'm an [43:18] attorney there and um on September 9th [43:22] we will be holding an expungement Clinic [43:24] I wanted to let everyone know and give [43:26] some information about how we can help [43:28] the Glendale Community and any members [43:31] of the nearby cities community members [43:35] um we will be uh basically anyone who [43:39] has a record that would like to have it [43:41] expunged have it would like to have it [43:43] cleared in order to start their life [43:45] over again um a lot of times records [43:49] that can prevent people from um seeking [43:52] employment or even apartment buildings [43:54] you know if they want to get rent an [43:56] apartment or rent a home or get a home [43:59] uh those can be prevented so what we're [44:01] doing is we're providing free [44:02] expungement clinics for members and it's [44:05] going to be on Saturday September [44:08] 9th um it will be held at Maple Park [44:11] Community Center which is at 820 Maple [44:14] East Maple Drive and um we will have our [44:18] expungement Clinic attorneys there [44:19] helping people um apply for those [44:22] expungements and um reduction of [44:24] felonies and um probation [44:28] records okay thank you thank you for do [44:31] so much thank [44:34] you okay what is [44:38] next next are action items action item a [44:42] public works regarding San Fernando Road [44:44] beautification Project Alternatives one [44:46] motion accepting staff's recommendation [44:48] to proceed with the design and [44:50] implementation of alternative 2A for the [44:52] San Fernando r Road beautification [44:55] Project [44:56] thank you Mr gamia yes mayor bman member [44:59] city council um this this council's [45:02] direction U few months ago to improve [45:05] and beautify San Fernando Road Corridor [45:08] along the MTA railroad tracks and uh in [45:12] response to that direction staff applied [45:14] for and was successful in obtaining $5 [45:17] million uh in in Grant monies from the [45:20] state of [45:21] California uh to to help uh in that [45:24] endeavor the project includes a number [45:27] of improvements including uh not only [45:30] enhanced Landscaping but also sidewalks [45:33] crosswalks as well as bicycle facilities [45:37] um staff and our consultant have uh [45:39] conducted a uh feasibility analysis and [45:43] took the recommendation to uh [45:45] transportation and parking commission [45:47] recently and that commission provided a [45:50] recommendation to city council as one of [45:53] the Alternatives that was in the staff [45:55] report with that I'll turn it to Mr [45:57] amrani our director of Public Works to [45:59] introduce our consultant Who present [46:01] this item for your [46:03] consideration good evening Mr Mayor [46:05] members of city council um as was [46:08] mentioned uh this is a uh long awaited [46:12] project for us to uh to help uh improve [46:16] the condition of San Fernando Road and [46:19] as such we've uh engaged the services of [46:22] Mark Thomas uh who's a consultant to uh [46:27] do this study for us and analyze all the [46:29] different [46:30] Alternatives uh and we have uh Mr Pat [46:33] Summerville of Mark Thomas who's going [46:35] to go through a short presentation thank [46:38] you yes good evening mayor council [46:40] members Pat sumerville project manager [46:42] for the Mark Thomas [46:46] team a little bit about the about the [46:48] project introduction uh first and [46:50] foremost this project is intended to [46:53] beautify and improve the public areas [46:56] along San Fernando Road through the [46:58] implementation of new raised landscape [47:00] meeting Islands Parkway and Parkway [47:03] planting to help mitigate the urban heat [47:05] island [47:06] effect it will also include multimodal [47:09] improvements for all users including new [47:12] and improved bus stops with shelters [47:14] where they don't exist today and high [47:16] visibility crosswalks to improve [47:23] safety the project is funded through [47:25] three different sources measure W from [47:27] the county state gas tax funds and the [47:30] grant that was mentioned previously from [47:32] calr the clean Calfornia Grant of nearly [47:35] $5 [47:36] million the important item to to [47:39] understand regarding that Grant is it [47:41] has a deadline to have the project [47:43] constructed by June end of June 2024 so [47:47] that deadline plays into uh the [47:49] decisions being made in terms of being [47:51] able to have this project built and the [47:53] grant funds expended by that date [47:58] so a little bit about the existing [47:59] conditions along San Fernando Road this [48:02] is a major Arterial Highway four lanes [48:04] in each Direction along a commercial [48:07] Corridor with businesses and on street [48:09] parking on the east side and the metr [48:12] Link rail Corridor on the west side so [48:15] this constrains our Corridor we're [48:17] looking at a 62t width curb to curb to [48:20] fit the elements out there today and any [48:23] additional elements we want to add is [48:26] competing for that real estate within [48:28] the street so this is the constrained [48:31] canvas that we have to work with as we [48:32] develop the [48:35] project we're also looking at the [48:38] facilities that exist out there today [48:40] that were either planned or implemented [48:42] um starting with the 2012 bicycle master [48:45] plan uh this did include a class one [48:48] facility along San Fernando Road located [48:52] inside the railroad ride of way [48:55] unfortunately this Metro owned Corridor [48:57] with Metro Link and the future [48:58] High-Speed Rail that is no longer an [49:00] option to locate this inside the [49:02] railroad R of way there was also as part [49:05] of that plan a number of east west [49:07] connections to San Fernando Road from [49:11] Glendale since then there has been [49:13] improvements implemented through the [49:15] corridor uh primarily the Glend Del [49:18] Naros River Walk uh north of the [49:20] 134 along Fairmont where the uh Phase 1 [49:24] and phase two pathway in Confluence Park [49:27] has been [49:28] completed phase three is the bridge that [49:30] would extend from Flower Street over to [49:33] the LA side at zoo drive and that is [49:36] currently in the design phase that [49:38] project has been funded through another [49:40] Grant uh believe the prop 68 grant for [49:43] that so that item is moving [49:46] forward additionally LA Metro has [49:50] funding and is currently planning and [49:53] designing additional active transport [49:55] ation improvements in this vicinity that [49:58] include a new bridge that would span [50:00] over San Fernando Road and the metr link [50:02] Corridor at Dorn Street once that [50:05] Crossing is closed this would be the [50:08] measure to be able to get pedestrians [50:09] and cyclists over San Fernando Road and [50:11] the rail corridor from Dorne Street that [50:14] path would extend down to the end of the [50:17] uh Dorne Street at the culdesac then [50:20] continue North with a new bridge that [50:22] would span over the verdigo wash and [50:25] connect to your Glendale Narrows [50:27] Riverwalk project so that would provide [50:30] continuity to the north and south of the [50:33] 134 in the Vero wash and it also opens [50:36] up the opportunity for future expansion [50:39] of the bike path along the east Bank of [50:41] the LA River it's a quter that would run [50:43] parallel to San Fernando [50:48] Road as we started the project with the [50:51] understanding of the importance of [50:52] community engagement uh the team [50:56] uh implemented a a robust outreach [50:58] program that included eblasts door [51:01] hangers postcards social media um all [51:05] notifications were in three languages [51:08] for the [51:10] community we also initiated the initial [51:13] survey and the this survey is a fact-f [51:15] finding survey finding out what the [51:17] community's challenges are through the [51:19] corridor but also what their desired [51:21] improvements are through the [51:24] corridor the top four challenges are all [51:27] traffic operations related not [51:30] surprisingly the top desired [51:31] improvements were also roadway and [51:33] traffic related followed by Corridor [51:36] beautification and pedestrian [51:39] improvements so from this feedback the [51:42] team developed three Alternatives that [51:44] were brought [51:47] forward in all of the Alternatives have [51:50] common features involved through each of [51:53] them uh this includes Parkway planting [51:56] both along the rail Corridor to help [51:58] beautify that side of the street as well [52:00] as the East Side along the [52:03] businesses pavment resurfacing [52:05] throughout from Elk Avenue up to Grand [52:08] View upgraded bus stops making them ADA [52:12] Compliant and installing bus shelters [52:14] where they don't exist [52:16] today creative crosswalks to improve [52:19] visibility and [52:21] safety curb extensions at almost every [52:24] intersection to help shorten the path of [52:26] travel for the pedestrians crossing the [52:29] street and the the raised landscaped [52:33] medians that will be [52:35] included regarding the [52:38] medians there are 11 medians planned [52:41] throughout the corridor it is not a [52:43] continuous median from in to in along [52:46] the corridor in part because we're [52:48] maintaining left turn at the cross [52:51] streets where it exists today as well as [52:54] the higher volume volume driveways for [52:56] the businesses along the [53:01] corridor so alternative one is [53:05] effectively the existing condition with [53:07] the addition of the planting and the [53:09] raised meiting Islands this would [53:11] function as a class three bike way [53:13] through the corridor with no change in [53:15] the roadway Lane configuration it [53:17] maintains all the on and it maintains [53:19] all of the on street [53:23] parking Alterna ative 2 [53:26] implements striped class two bike [53:29] Lanes along San Fernando Road and in [53:32] order to fit the two bike Lanes one in [53:35] each Direction This alternative would [53:38] remove the on street parking which is a [53:40] loss of approximately 141 parking spaces [53:43] from Elk up to Grand View because of the [53:46] constraints of the roadway um there is [53:49] no buffer or protection for this bike [53:51] lane it would be just purely a class two [53:53] striped bike lane [53:58] alternative three is what's referred to [54:00] as a class 4 protected bike boy this is [54:03] one lane in each Direction with a buffer [54:05] and a vertical element separating the [54:07] bikes from the vehicles in order to [54:10] accomodate this in the width that that [54:13] class 4 needs this would remove one lane [54:16] of traffic in each Direction on San [54:18] Fernando Road it also reduces parking by [54:22] about 30% uh because of the road [54:25] configuration and the ability to restrip [54:28] for [54:29] parking there is a VMT reduction along [54:31] the corridor however because of the [54:33] reduction in the lanes it does nearly [54:37] double the travel time in the afternoon [54:39] peak hours both Northbound and [54:42] southbound and it also uh as we heard [54:45] from the Glendale Fire Department uh [54:48] because it Narrows the roadway it makes [54:50] it more difficult and challenging for [54:52] the fire apparatus to be able to [54:55] navigate around raise median and parked [54:58] or cars or the vertical elements within [55:00] the bike lane uh as they are going to a [55:06] call we also looked at the traffic [55:09] safety through the [55:11] corridor we collected all the Collision [55:13] data from 2012 to 2022 through the [55:16] corridor again from Elk Avenue up to [55:19] Grand View Avenue there were 18 [55:22] incidents on file eight of which were [55:25] involved pedestrians 10 of which [55:27] involved bicycles so we're aware of [55:30] those incidents their locations uh [55:33] there's two locations in particular that [55:35] had a cluster of accidents one of [55:37] California the other [55:39] Colorado also with the implementation of [55:42] the project and the features through the [55:44] calr local roadway safety manual um they [55:49] document that installing raised medians [55:51] can reduce collisions by up to [55:54] 25% providing bike Lanes can also reduce [55:57] bicycle related accidents by up to [56:03] 35% we also evaluated the parking along [56:06] the [56:07] corridor uh there's currently 78 on [56:10] street parking stalls north of the [56:13] 134 and 63 South of the [56:17] 134 we did we twice went out to look at [56:20] the utilization during the day from 6:00 [56:23] AM to 7 pm [56:25] uh the corridor is very highly utilized [56:28] throughout additionally we looked at [56:30] each of the cross streets at about 250 [56:33] feet back from San Fernando Road to see [56:35] what the utilization is like on the side [56:37] streets to see in particular is if we [56:40] removed parking on San Fernando Road is [56:42] there sufficient parking on street on [56:45] the side streets to accommodate that uh [56:48] those side streets are also very highly [56:51] utilized so there is not sufficient on [56:54] street parking replacement parking if it [56:56] was removed on San Fernando [57:00] Road so we took the three options along [57:04] with the information gathered on the [57:05] traffic and the parking uh we held a [57:08] community uh Outreach meeting in March [57:10] at the glendell Fire Protection Bureau [57:12] we had 40 community members come through [57:15] able to walk them through each of the [57:17] boards the exhibits um and what is [57:19] planned in each of the three [57:20] Alternatives hear feedback provide input [57:24] as to concerns that they might have [57:28] had we also did an online [57:31] survey uh this was referred to a survey [57:34] number two where we were getting input [57:36] on the Alternatives and Concepts that [57:38] were presented at the Outreach [57:41] meeting we want to indicate that the the [57:44] participant profile 38% identified as an [57:47] active cyclist um there were 11% that [57:51] either worked along San Fernando or [57:52] owned a business along San Fernando Road [57:55] the result of this online survey uh [57:58] alternative three the class 4 cycle [58:01] track or or class 4 bike Lanes uh ranked [58:04] the highest at 42% followed by [58:06] alternative two and then alternative [58:10] one subsequent to that we did a [58:13] door-to-door canvasing of the corridor [58:16] both businesses and adjacent [58:19] residents the common theme through the [58:22] discussion with the businesses was the [58:25] parking they are heavily reliant on it [58:28] and in their eyes that was a non-starter [58:30] to remove it uh that resulted in the [58:33] clear 93% approval of alternative [58:38] one with the residents the key concern [58:41] for them was any cut through traffic [58:43] which should have been tied to [58:43] Alternative three and so again we're [58:47] seeing a a very heavy approval rating [58:49] for alternative one by the residents [58:51] followed by alternative [58:53] two so with this information and the [58:56] discussions with the community feedback [58:59] from both the online survey and the [59:00] community meetings the team went back [59:03] and looked at variations what else might [59:05] we be able to [59:07] do and this is where alternative [59:10] 2A came about and what this does IT [59:14] addresses the business's concerns about [59:17] parking because we're maintaining it [59:19] along San Fernando [59:20] Road it may IT addresses the residential [59:24] community concerns because we've [59:26] maintained the four lanes of traffic on [59:28] the [59:29] road but what we what we have been able [59:31] to provide on this one is a single Class [59:33] 2 southbound bike [59:35] lane along the west side of San Fernando [59:39] Road and we've accomplish that by [59:41] skinning up all of the lanes in the [59:44] median Island through here to 10-ft [59:46] Lanes 9ft median 7 foot parking [59:50] Lane that allows us to provide just [59:52] enough space to put that class to bike [59:55] lane [59:56] in now you also notice that there is no [59:58] protection or buffer for this bike lane [1:00:01] and question is what's the challenges [1:00:03] why can't we well the challenges the the [1:00:08] characteristics of the [1:00:09] corridor the need when [1:00:13] we to be able to provide a buffer we [1:00:15] have to narrow something else that [1:00:17] something else would be the the [1:00:19] median we have raised median but we also [1:00:22] have striped medians that Prov provides [1:00:24] two-way left turn access to driveways [1:00:27] along San Fernando [1:00:28] Road so to accomplish a buffer adjacent [1:00:32] to the bike lane we would need to narrow [1:00:34] the median which means we shift traffic [1:00:36] over 3 ft to shift traffic we need [1:00:40] distance to transition and taper them [1:00:42] over we also need transitions in and out [1:00:45] of of the uh left turn pockets all told [1:00:50] it takes about 300 feet of length to [1:00:53] make the transitions work on each end [1:00:56] plus the left turn [1:00:59] pocket you add all this up and [1:01:02] unfortunately through the corridor the [1:01:05] blocks are so [1:01:07] short that out of roughly 17 blocks [1:01:11] there's only four that would actually [1:01:14] have enough length to them that this we [1:01:17] could achieve any form of [1:01:19] buffer and within those four three of [1:01:22] them would also then prohibit left turn [1:01:25] access in and out of additional [1:01:27] driveways that was not intended [1:01:28] originally which leaves one remaining [1:01:32] opportunity to to do that and let me [1:01:34] give you a little bit of a look of how [1:01:36] that looks and what I'm referring to [1:01:39] here this is a block between Grange and [1:01:41] Highland [1:01:43] Avenue um this shows a the class 2 bike [1:01:46] lane along the railroad Corridor at the [1:01:50] intersections we need a 9ft median width [1:01:52] for the left turn Pockets it cannot be [1:01:54] any anything less than [1:01:56] that if you're heading southbound and [1:01:58] you cross Highland Avenue you would you [1:02:01] would start to transition over that's [1:02:03] the 100 foot transition that's the [1:02:04] minimum required by the [1:02:07] city at that point the median island is [1:02:11] now down to 6 feet which then would [1:02:14] prohibit the ability for left turn [1:02:16] movements because the car cannot move [1:02:18] into a two-way left turn lane in in the [1:02:20] raised median so that would effectively [1:02:23] eliminate left turn move ments in and [1:02:24] out of two driveways on this one [1:02:27] block and then you have to taper back [1:02:30] out ahead of the 60ft taper that goes [1:02:33] into the left turn pocket and then the [1:02:35] length of the left turn pocket which [1:02:36] varies throughout the corridor depending [1:02:38] on traffic volumes so there's very [1:02:41] limited ability to provide a buffer [1:02:44] along this [1:02:47] Corridor and lastly alternative [1:02:51] 3A uh was a a look at a class 4 [1:02:55] protected two-way cycle track and what [1:02:57] we did different on this one is we [1:02:59] combined the uh two directions of for [1:03:03] the class 4 bike lane along the west [1:03:05] side adjacent to the rail [1:03:09] Corridor we restored the parking on the [1:03:12] on for on Street on the east side of San [1:03:14] Fernando Road as well as two Northbound [1:03:16] Lanes so this addresses the parking [1:03:19] concern this addresses the traffic [1:03:21] concern for Northbound however the [1:03:24] southbound direction of travel still is [1:03:26] only one lane and it is a narrowed [1:03:28] section uh so we still would have a [1:03:31] southbound uh impact of traffic during [1:03:34] the PM peak hours as well as the [1:03:37] concerns from the glendell fire [1:03:38] department because of the narrowed [1:03:41] Street width this option also would [1:03:43] require traffic signal modifications [1:03:46] because of the two-way cycle track at [1:03:48] each of the crossings of the [1:03:51] railroad what this means is we now have [1:03:53] to engage the California Public [1:03:55] Utilities Commission LA Metro and [1:03:57] Metrolink for the modifications in the [1:03:59] process of this which [1:04:01] is um would not fit within the timeline [1:04:05] for this project to deliver and build it [1:04:07] by the end of June [1:04:14] 2024 So based on the feedback uh staff [1:04:17] went to the TBC last week um [1:04:20] recommending alternative one [1:04:22] particularly because it did meet the [1:04:23] grant project [1:04:25] goals it also addressed the business and [1:04:28] residents concerns regarding parking and [1:04:29] traffic the configuration was consistent [1:04:32] with the the challenges and the [1:04:34] constraints of the corridor and the [1:04:35] characteristics of of the street but [1:04:38] also understanding the potential for [1:04:41] additional connectivity in the future [1:04:43] for for bicycles not only with the [1:04:46] metroactive transportation improvements [1:04:48] that are being uh designed right now by [1:04:51] LA Metro that connect to the Riverwalk [1:04:53] but but also through the city's own [1:04:55] updating of your bike transportation [1:04:58] plan that could explore the extension of [1:05:02] that bike path along the east Bank of [1:05:03] the LA River to provide a high higher [1:05:06] quality bicycle facility for all users [1:05:09] that parallel San Fernando Road so it's [1:05:11] an option that would be out [1:05:14] there so at the meeting alternative two [1:05:16] was recommended for the following [1:05:19] reasons in part because it also [1:05:21] addressed the business and residents [1:05:24] concerns but it also provided a bicycle [1:05:27] Improvement along the corridor by [1:05:28] providing that southbound Class 2 bike [1:05:31] lane um it is an alternative that could [1:05:33] be realized without impacting the [1:05:34] project budget and schedule and hence [1:05:37] the staff is recommending alternative 2A [1:05:40] for your consideration tonight and with [1:05:42] that that concludes my [1:05:45] presentation thank you very much um do [1:05:49] we have any quick questions or should um [1:05:52] because I could call up the speaker [1:05:54] unless you have just sure I I just have [1:05:56] a few question uh on when when in notes [1:06:00] on in the presentation you mentioned [1:06:01] that um with uh bike Lanes uh accidents [1:06:07] are reduced by 35% is there a specific [1:06:10] type of bike lane that uh constitutes [1:06:13] that percentage of a reduction that [1:06:16] would be for a striped Class 2 bike lane [1:06:18] of class two because the first ones [1:06:21] which are just sharrows along the road I [1:06:24] don't think would result if anything [1:06:26] they give I think bicyclists a false [1:06:29] sense of security um and how many left [1:06:33] left turns would be affected by uh the [1:06:35] implementation of 2A into uh businesses [1:06:39] do you did you mention that for in to [1:06:43] put a buffer be able to put a buffer [1:06:45] adjacent yeah [1:06:47] so I believe it's a total of six [1:06:50] driveways or five driveways add in three [1:06:53] different segments [1:06:54] ments five driveways in each [1:06:57] segment five driveways total five okay [1:07:00] all right thank [1:07:03] you [1:07:05] yes um on page [1:07:09] 13 you note that uh uh alternative to um [1:07:15] would result in loss of 141 [1:07:19] spaces uh parking spaces or [1:07:21] approximately do you have that number um [1:07:24] for south of the freeway yes there's 63 [1:07:28] total parking stalls south of the 134 [1:07:30] freeway and that's been uh that count [1:07:33] was conducted by Mark Thomas staff as [1:07:36] well as um our consultant that did the [1:07:38] parking [1:07:39] analysis so it's been confirmed okay [1:07:43] thank you so much have a question Divine [1:07:45] yes um my question is about off street [1:07:48] parking and uh we I suppose we all got [1:07:51] an email today and I don't know if the [1:07:53] the lady is here that was uh that sent [1:07:55] us the information but she mentioned [1:07:58] that there are hundreds of parking [1:07:59] spaces including a garage and lots off [1:08:03] Street in that area that could be used [1:08:06] and it wouldn't matter if we uh you know [1:08:08] got rid of the [1:08:10] 144 on street parking or the 41 I think [1:08:13] it's 41 this in the [1:08:16] 2A can you comment on that you said you [1:08:19] you looked at off street parking and we [1:08:23] we looked at the on street parking [1:08:24] demands the public [1:08:26] parking the offsite off street parking [1:08:29] was not considered as part of our [1:08:32] analysis uh particularly because it is [1:08:34] privately owned and it's it requires a [1:08:37] little more investigation as to its [1:08:38] needs um there's also businesses that [1:08:41] may still not from the time they were [1:08:43] built have off-site parking but it's [1:08:46] also takes additional analysis to [1:08:49] understand the on-site parking or [1:08:51] off-site parking needs of each of the [1:08:53] businesses is um and uses along the [1:08:56] corridor to determine if it is meeting [1:09:00] current zoning requirements or [1:09:01] grandfathered zoning [1:09:03] requirements um it's difficult to say [1:09:07] whether or not would still be adequate [1:09:09] to absorb the parking if it was removed [1:09:11] from San Fernando Road and council [1:09:13] member dine um I didn't see a copy of [1:09:17] the email but we do not own we don't [1:09:19] have a parking structure along San [1:09:21] Fernando public parking structure right [1:09:23] I don't think she mentioned it that they [1:09:25] were public she said um garages and then [1:09:28] she had buildings and lots and oh yeah [1:09:30] privately owned yeah yeah [1:09:33] yeah um yeah and we'll get a [1:09:36] presentation that's um yeah one of our [1:09:39] one of our speaker cards she'll be [1:09:40] giving a [1:09:41] presentation um yeah I just have two [1:09:44] questions um on let's see when you were [1:09:47] on page 10 let me just go back to [1:09:50] it uh was it page I'm sorry page 14 [1:09:55] you uh mentioned um that this [1:09:59] alternative three would double the [1:10:00] travel time can you put that in in [1:10:02] seconds minutes and what from where to [1:10:05] where so the travel time is from Elk [1:10:09] Avenue on the south end to Grand View [1:10:11] Avenue on the North [1:10:13] End in today's conditions that's [1:10:15] estimated in either direction to be a [1:10:19] 10-minute travel time both Northbound [1:10:21] and southbound during Peak hour PM peak [1:10:24] hour cuz that's that's the governing one [1:10:26] that's the higher has the higher volume [1:10:28] to [1:10:28] it with alternative three with the class [1:10:32] 4 protected bike Lanes reducing the lane [1:10:35] of travel in each [1:10:38] Direction the number increases to 18 [1:10:41] minutes and I believe the southbound [1:10:43] Direction 20 minutes in the Northbound [1:10:45] Direction so near it nearly doubled both [1:10:49] directions in the PM peak hour by [1:10:51] reducing and eliminating the one lane [1:10:55] okay um and then my other question is uh [1:11:00] see page 20 I think I know the answer to [1:11:03] this but I just want to make sure so uh [1:11:06] on page [1:11:08] 20 I don't know if you want to pull it [1:11:10] up for now but anyway the here I'll I'll [1:11:12] back up for you yeah just that the the [1:11:16] the rightmost travel Lane there 11 ft I [1:11:19] assume that's because of the parked cars [1:11:21] but is that is that a requirement when [1:11:23] we have a travel Lane against Park cars [1:11:25] our minimum is 11 ft the the typical [1:11:29] minimum Lane is 11 [1:11:32] and the typical parking Lane is also [1:11:35] eight um so we've reduced the parking [1:11:38] Lane to [1:11:39] seven um because of the having the [1:11:43] travel Lane adjacent to the parking Lane [1:11:46] um having 18 ft total was preferable [1:11:49] whether it was a 10-ft lane and an 8ft [1:11:51] parking lane or vice versa but but [1:11:53] having the 18 ft was preferable to have [1:11:55] a little bit of separation between the [1:11:58] two so so if you cut a foot off of that [1:12:01] you that would be a a safety issue I [1:12:05] would say it would be yes my [1:12:08] opinion because I'm just thinking if you [1:12:11] how much how how much uh uh space would [1:12:15] you need for to buffer that bike lane [1:12:18] would it be a foot or would it be less [1:12:19] than a foot the typical buffer for a [1:12:22] bike lane is 3 Fe oh 3 ft just for the [1:12:25] buffer that's the typical buffer for a [1:12:28] bike lane it it could be made less could [1:12:30] be yeah but the the preferred is 3 [1:12:35] feet okay and the 10ft travel Lane is [1:12:38] our is our [1:12:40] minimum [1:12:42] yes did any jurisdictions go narrower [1:12:45] than that on through [1:12:47] Lanes not that I have seen I know the [1:12:50] city of La has been tightening things up [1:12:53] but they've been using 10ft throughs and [1:12:55] 9ft left [1:12:57] turns okay all right [1:13:00] thanks oh yeah council member the [1:13:04] sidewalk uh with what's left is that [1:13:08] like sufficient for people with [1:13:11] disabilities absolutely the the quarter [1:13:14] will be ADA [1:13:16] Compliant and not like in some places on [1:13:19] like Central and brand right where it [1:13:21] almost feels like you have to around [1:13:24] things um council members saan [1:13:27] everywhere in the City by law we are [1:13:29] required to comply with ADA requirements [1:13:31] so sometimes what you see on Brand [1:13:34] Boulevard and we're dealing with uh code [1:13:37] enforcement is after dining spaces that [1:13:40] have taken over but even with that if [1:13:43] they have they have a permit from the [1:13:45] city it meets the minimum requirement [1:13:48] for [1:13:50] accessibility okay and and if I could [1:13:53] add the the parkway on that side it's [1:13:55] 10t wide the intent of this is to remove [1:13:58] the front four feet for [1:14:00] planting maintain the back five or six [1:14:04] feet depending on segment but making it [1:14:06] a continuous without Meandering that [1:14:08] back and [1:14:10] forth okay thank you so much okay uh [1:14:14] we'll call up our speakers um do we have [1:14:17] anyone on the phone no we do not well we [1:14:20] just got one caller okay Okay so we've [1:14:24] got 1 two three four five six here yeah [1:14:28] give it um we can give five minutes and [1:14:31] then we'll we'll stop taking phone calls [1:14:33] if we get any more okay so we'll start [1:14:35] with uh lynen Alexander [1:14:40] deor and you have three minutes okay for [1:14:43] your [1:14:47] com uh do I start now yes all right uh [1:14:51] hello I am here to voice my support for [1:14:54] Alternatives 2 3 and SL [1:14:58] 3A um I have a stti in the matter as I [1:15:02] have cycled through San Fernando Road [1:15:05] many times from Glenn Oaks Boulevard to [1:15:08] Chevy Chase um where I make a ride and [1:15:12] head to the LA River bike path at at [1:15:14] Water bellage um for a time this was the [1:15:19] first part of my commute to get to [1:15:20] downtown Los Angeles uh as I became more [1:15:24] familiar with the roads in [1:15:25] Glendale uh I stopped using San Fernando [1:15:29] as often mostly because due to the lack [1:15:33] of bike lanes and angry speeding [1:15:35] cars um the fact is that San Fernando [1:15:39] Road is a dangerous road for all users [1:15:43] on top of a few a handful of pedestrian [1:15:47] injuries there have been a handful of [1:15:50] bicycle collisions within the last [1:15:52] decade um I would also like to mention [1:15:56] one notable incident in on the San [1:15:59] Fernando Road during the open Community [1:16:02] open house event on March 23rd of this [1:16:06] year two cars jumped on a curb and [1:16:09] landed on a few tables of a restaurant [1:16:12] at the intersection of San Fernando and [1:16:14] Chevy Chase uh now I understand that [1:16:18] it's a little bit South beyond the [1:16:21] current project but that doesn't change [1:16:24] the fact that it happened you know um [1:16:27] think about think about this in an [1:16:30] alternative timeline or Universe where [1:16:33] the city council chose alternative run [1:16:36] one and was implemented and that crash [1:16:39] or worse crash occurred within that [1:16:42] scope of the project it would not look [1:16:45] good for the city of Glendale to say the [1:16:49] least this is why we have projects to [1:16:51] extend sidewalks to add bike lanes and [1:16:54] sometimes bus lanes uh it's to prevent [1:16:57] incidents like this from [1:16:59] occurring and you have the power to [1:17:02] prevent these such [1:17:06] incidents uh please support option 3 3A [1:17:10] or at the fair leas option two I yield [1:17:13] my time thank [1:17:15] you Mike bars [1:17:22] off [1:17:23] uh good evening council members my name [1:17:25] is Mike borisov uh again sorry I just [1:17:27] came from work at GD so forgive me for [1:17:29] the shorts um so I'm just here to say [1:17:31] alternative 2A is the best we can go [1:17:33] with right now um I was at the meeting [1:17:35] for the transportation parking [1:17:36] commission when this came up and really [1:17:38] what this project is all about is [1:17:40] compromise um when obviously I want [1:17:43] three um but that's not the reality that [1:17:45] we live in um I we had the fire chief or [1:17:48] sorry fire department staff come up and [1:17:50] say that if we only had one single Lane [1:17:52] that was 10 10 ft or even 12T that's not [1:17:55] good enough in case of an emergency [1:17:56] because cars can't like go to the right [1:17:58] or left side of the street which makes [1:18:00] sense and so to come up with a [1:18:02] compromise to allow a bike lane [1:18:03] southbound bike lane and still have uh [1:18:05] emergency vehicles go uh in event of [1:18:08] emergency uh we have two lanes that are [1:18:10] now 10 ft uh additionally now this [1:18:13] project will follow the timeline and [1:18:15] follow the costs with a clean uh air [1:18:17] Grand program I do want to mention that [1:18:19] I'm a bit bummed that there was no room [1:18:22] for a buffer for the bike lane so in my [1:18:26] understanding a protected bike lane is [1:18:28] about 3 to 5T but a buffer can be [1:18:30] whatever size you want although I don't [1:18:33] know if there's a legal minimum to [1:18:36] enforce like the safe of a buffer versus [1:18:40] a protected bike like Arrow not Lane [1:18:43] sorry a protected bike buffer like [1:18:46] there's buffer and there there's [1:18:47] protected bike lane those are two [1:18:48] different things um and you can see that [1:18:50] in the picture even so if you go back to [1:18:52] to Alternative 3A you can see there's a [1:18:55] green right there's red uh sorry there's [1:18:58] a stripes and then there's green poles [1:19:00] those are plastic ballards that's a [1:19:02] protected bike lane a buffer would just [1:19:04] be a thicker stripe I believe on the [1:19:07] lane and so I was confused why we [1:19:09] couldn't have like at least a foot um I [1:19:11] understand there's a minimum median [1:19:12] requirement especially for turning left [1:19:14] and the median will have dry Wells or [1:19:17] water collection facilities so that [1:19:19] might affect the actual buffer or how [1:19:22] wide meeting is and the buffer this that [1:19:24] you could add to the bike lane um but [1:19:27] all in all I support alternative 2A and [1:19:29] I hope we you know Al least got one bike [1:19:32] lane versus zero which is what we're [1:19:34] currently at right now thank you thank [1:19:37] you uh next speaker is Allen [1:19:45] Durham mayor brotman members of the [1:19:48] council I'm Alan Durham uh I agree with [1:19:51] Mike borisoff I'm here to support the [1:19:54] staff's [1:19:55] recommendation to uh go with alternative [1:19:58] 2A it's not a perfect world [1:20:00] unfortunately compromise is needed uh 2A [1:20:04] manages to add at least one dedicated [1:20:07] bike lane on a street that has none in [1:20:10] addition to maintaining on street [1:20:12] parking and all four traffic [1:20:15] Lanes unfortunately adding two bank [1:20:17] Lanes would result in the loss of all [1:20:21] the on street parking or the loss of one [1:20:23] or two traffic Lanes this portion of San [1:20:27] Fernando Road is under I'm sorry it's [1:20:29] mostly older commercial buildings which [1:20:32] have no dedicated parking they rely on [1:20:35] the street [1:20:36] parking uh and any parking structures [1:20:40] that are in this portion of San Fernando [1:20:43] or private property they're not public [1:20:45] Lots where you can pay to [1:20:47] park um and I think having no street [1:20:51] parking would hurt these businesses [1:20:54] economically and also Force parking onto [1:20:57] residential streets rather than San [1:20:59] Fernando Road eliminating one or two [1:21:02] traffic Lanes to put two bike Lanes in [1:21:06] is extremely problematic it's a heavily [1:21:09] traveled [1:21:11] thoroughfare and it will at least double [1:21:14] the travel times during the rush hour [1:21:16] and it's already really congested during [1:21:18] those times traffic backs up there are a [1:21:21] bunch of railroad crossings the signals [1:21:23] last a very long [1:21:25] time and I think reducing it to three or [1:21:30] two lanes will [1:21:32] divert uh traffic from San Fernando onto [1:21:35] nearby residential streets will get that [1:21:37] effect of people cutting through [1:21:39] residential streets to avoid San [1:21:41] Fernando Road and even if the traffic [1:21:44] goes up to Glen Oaks Boulevard we're [1:21:47] going to be losing two lanes on Glen [1:21:49] Oaks in the future when the rapid [1:21:51] transit uh North Hollywood bus project [1:21:55] is implemented so Glen o is going to be [1:21:58] going from six Lanes down to four if San [1:22:01] Fernando goes from 4 to 3 or two it's [1:22:05] just [1:22:06] problematic uh for the neighborhoods [1:22:08] because I think traffic will go up into [1:22:10] the residential neighborhoods and the [1:22:13] Glendale Fire Department has stated that [1:22:17] this is going to be a threat to Public [1:22:19] Safety due to delays in response time so [1:22:23] I don't think you can really ignore that [1:22:25] so please don't delay approving [1:22:28] alternative [1:22:29] 2A there's only 10 months to go to get [1:22:33] this project rolling completed in order [1:22:35] not to lose the grant money thank you [1:22:39] thank you uh next speaker is Kirsten [1:22:44] blad or blade I I hope you can correct [1:22:48] me [1:22:50] yes uh good evening council members [1:22:53] my name is Kirsten blot I'm a resident [1:22:54] of South [1:22:55] Glendale um I did have a [1:23:00] presentation um first I just want to say [1:23:03] I'm not sure why it matters that all of [1:23:04] the parking south of the 134 is private [1:23:06] when it's 100% private businesses uh [1:23:09] there's no Public Schools public parks [1:23:11] or [1:23:15] residences um if you go to the first [1:23:17] slide please thanks or the second [1:23:21] slide thanks [1:23:23] um so the staff report failed to look at [1:23:24] the bigger picture of glendale's bike [1:23:26] Network San Fernando intersects with [1:23:28] five bike Lanes one future bike lane and [1:23:30] the future Verdugo wash which is by far [1:23:32] the most of any roadway in Glendale next [1:23:35] slide that many connections to bike [1:23:38] Lanes guarantees that San Fernando will [1:23:40] be and is currently used by lots of [1:23:41] cyclists in the past 10 years there were [1:23:43] 28 cyclist hit on the portion of San [1:23:45] Fernando within Glendale and two of [1:23:47] those crashes resulted in the highest [1:23:49] injury severity level other than death [1:23:51] next slide [1:23:53] over onethird of the crashes occurred [1:23:55] within the project study area next [1:23:58] slide my parking analysis shows that [1:24:00] unlike the northern portion there's very [1:24:02] little need for curb parking south of [1:24:03] the 134 which is also where bike Lan is [1:24:05] most needed next [1:24:08] slide so in this first portion there are [1:24:11] 44 off street parking spaces um and [1:24:13] there's not a single curb parking [1:24:16] space next [1:24:19] slide uh this section is going to re be [1:24:21] redeveloped with a project that includes [1:24:23] a 385 space parking garage 121 surface [1:24:26] spaces and an off Street loading zone uh [1:24:29] there's no retail or any need for [1:24:31] customer parking uh and there's only 14 [1:24:33] curb spaces anyways next [1:24:35] slide here we [1:24:37] have off street parking spaces and 12 [1:24:40] curb spaces over two blocks uh and it's [1:24:43] mostly a junk lot if you couldn't tell [1:24:45] um so here you can see that these two [1:24:49] blocks for years now have just been used [1:24:51] as junk truck storage which they're not [1:24:52] customer parking next [1:24:57] slide um again here's another block [1:25:00] showing that this is just junk truck [1:25:01] storage not customer [1:25:05] parking so here we have 135 off street [1:25:08] parking spaces and 10 curb spaces 50% of [1:25:11] which are limited to 30 minutes uh so [1:25:13] the also I wanted to point out the [1:25:14] restaurant on the corner has 11 spaces [1:25:16] of their own and a 14 space parking lot [1:25:18] next door next [1:25:20] slide um so here in front of moonlight [1:25:22] rollerway we can see that this has been [1:25:24] used for junk truck storage since at [1:25:26] least 2015 next slide there's not a [1:25:29] single curb parking space available on [1:25:31] this final stretch of San Fernando but [1:25:32] there are 539 off- street parking spaces [1:25:36] which means this whole section is [1:25:37] essentially just a giant parking lot [1:25:38] next [1:25:39] slide so all in all only 2% of the [1:25:42] available parking within one block is on [1:25:44] the curb and that's not even counting [1:25:46] the curb parking available on side [1:25:47] streets next [1:25:49] slide my alternative proposal is north [1:25:52] of 134 alternative 2A and south of 134 [1:25:54] alternative 2 is that my time um okay [1:25:58] you could you could wrap it up need [1:26:01] another 30 seconds it's fine thank you [1:26:03] um so with this proposal cyclist would [1:26:06] be protected where it matters most which [1:26:07] is near the freeway interchanges less [1:26:09] than 2% parking loss and all parking [1:26:12] north of the 134 which is where the [1:26:13] residences and Retail uses are I know [1:26:16] they need parking up there and I don't [1:26:18] want to take that away from them and it [1:26:20] also that portion accounts for over % of [1:26:22] the curb parking in the total project [1:26:24] area despite being only a third of the [1:26:26] length um and almost 100% of the retail [1:26:28] parking okay and this would also connect [1:26:30] to the verduga wash Highland Bike Lane [1:26:32] and nearly to the rivil bike lane and uh [1:26:34] I believe the bridge that the um that [1:26:37] was talked about earlier okay thank you [1:26:39] thank you mayor bman yes if I um I oh [1:26:43] you want to ask a question do you yeah [1:26:45] you went really really fast through your [1:26:47] slides cuz you have I am interested [1:26:50] actually seeing the the rest of the info [1:26:52] that we just went past is there do you [1:26:55] do you have do we only have a electronic [1:26:58] version of it [1:27:01] um we got it you should have it on your [1:27:03] phone she sent she attached it to an [1:27:06] email I haven't seen okay I'll pull it [1:27:08] up thanks thank you okay thank you okay [1:27:13] uh next is Cole [1:27:21] basemore [1:27:24] good evening Council staff um very [1:27:27] excited about this project uh as I said [1:27:29] to the commission last week I think this [1:27:31] is a great opportunity to revitalize [1:27:33] this Corridor um I don't have much more [1:27:35] to say beyond the previous speaker I [1:27:37] think Kristen did a wonderful job of [1:27:39] summarizing uh the arguments in favor of [1:27:42] 2A as well as um option two south of the [1:27:46] 134 I think reducing a few um spots of [1:27:50] parking that's on this Corridor south of [1:27:52] of the 134 is really um not much when [1:27:56] you consider the uh safety that comes [1:27:59] with having that dedicated bike lane so [1:28:02] please consider that when you're [1:28:03] thinking about this um reducing like [1:28:06] they the staff presented you know the [1:28:08] reduction in 35% of uh uh I believe it [1:28:12] was 35% less bike accidents that might [1:28:15] result of this would be uh I think a [1:28:17] huge gain so again please please I [1:28:20] support 2A uh [1:28:22] for the portion uh north of 134 and two [1:28:26] South thank [1:28:28] you okay thank you [1:28:31] and uh Kate [1:28:40] anger hi everybody you said five minutes [1:28:43] right I have time to say good evening [1:28:46] mayor brotman members of city council [1:28:48] staff three minutes awesome um I can [1:28:51] talk to fast hey I have such Envy of [1:28:54] your presentations can we get [1:28:56] presentations like that the community we [1:28:58] would love to see those um I wanted to [1:29:01] start off by saying I am a member of the [1:29:05] community that's right they are impacted [1:29:07] by uh traffic on San Fernando Road um in [1:29:12] fact my house was just a little bit off [1:29:14] one of those slides that we saw earlier [1:29:16] um mostly speaking to north of the 134 [1:29:19] and at the 134 which is the bane of my [1:29:23] existence right about there who else [1:29:26] knows about this uh council member [1:29:28] kassakian also knows about this [1:29:30] experience of driving on San Fernando at [1:29:33] the [1:29:34] 134 so I wanted to say staff did a [1:29:38] really good job of reaching out to the [1:29:40] public I really appreciated that they [1:29:43] not only made sure that people had uh [1:29:46] visibility into what was happening when [1:29:48] I reached out to them they were very [1:29:50] responsive I really appreciated that uh [1:29:53] the consultant also was really good at [1:29:55] the open house and even beforehand there [1:29:57] were problems with the survey at first I [1:29:59] reached out to them to point out that it [1:30:01] was requiring people to give an answer [1:30:04] one two and three like minimum of three [1:30:06] answers so um I'm not sure if those [1:30:09] answers were taken away from the survey [1:30:11] results that you saw at the beginning [1:30:13] you couldn't say I have no problem with [1:30:15] this road the way it is you couldn't say [1:30:18] I don't want any of these um Solutions [1:30:22] so I let them know that and they changed [1:30:24] it I really appreciated that um I did [1:30:27] want to highlight the results of the [1:30:29] doorto door canvasing obviously not many [1:30:32] residents came out tonight but you saw [1:30:34] um in the staff report that um a large [1:30:37] majority of people like things the way [1:30:39] they are they recognize that there could [1:30:42] be a lot of impacts from reducing [1:30:44] traffic Lanes in particular also the off [1:30:46] Street the parking I think more of an [1:30:48] issue north of the [1:30:50] 134 so [1:30:54] so I'm strongly opposed to any [1:30:57] alternatives that eliminate a traffic [1:30:59] lane it's just a nightmare there already [1:31:02] I really want to support 2A I want to [1:31:05] ask a question I know that staff doesn't [1:31:08] need to answer me I hope one of you will [1:31:10] ask this question what happens on [1:31:13] southbound San Fernando at the [1:31:16] 134 where there are two tra excuse me [1:31:20] that go to the left [1:31:22] two traffic Lanes go through I was just [1:31:24] there I can't see how you fit a bicycle [1:31:26] lane there are they going to use sherrow [1:31:28] right in that spot and if not how are [1:31:30] they going to fit that bicycle lane [1:31:32] without reducing two lanes of traffic [1:31:34] plus those two lanes that turn left it [1:31:37] gets backed up really badly everybody [1:31:39] wants to turn left it's almost [1:31:41] impossible to go straight through there [1:31:42] you get backed [1:31:44] up last thing nobody's talking about the [1:31:47] Landscaping I'll talk about it really [1:31:49] fast really fast about the Landscaping [1:31:52] the last time they did landscaping they [1:31:54] let it die let's not do that this time [1:31:56] let's keep it alive the Rosemary is [1:31:58] still alive maybe keep it thanks so much [1:32:01] thank [1:32:01] you okay uh Eric [1:32:11] sonan hi everyone um first of all I'm [1:32:15] excited about this project as well I see [1:32:17] some family like on the other side of [1:32:19] Glendale so I'm always on that road and [1:32:21] it the traffic is horrible um I haven't [1:32:24] come here while they've presented before [1:32:27] so I just was wondering if um the I [1:32:30] don't know what it's called in the [1:32:31] middle the thing that is full of trees [1:32:35] but the median the median yeah is there [1:32:37] has that been talked about like if that [1:32:39] can be made like thinner cuz I it seems [1:32:42] like I don't know if that I haven't been [1:32:45] here so um but that could be saving some [1:32:49] space or cuz I know right now there's [1:32:51] nothing there at all so it's kind of [1:32:54] going to take up a lot of space and then [1:32:56] I know you mentioned some cross streets [1:32:57] as to like where it starts and ends but [1:33:00] uh is there a reason why like it doesn't [1:33:02] go the whole way through San Fernando [1:33:04] like from the beginning of South [1:33:06] Glendale all the way to the end I'd love [1:33:09] to know about that that's pretty much [1:33:13] it okay thank you oh and then um also [1:33:17] about the I know he said there's a like [1:33:20] one of the options had this southbound [1:33:22] uh southbound uh bike lane could there [1:33:25] be an option with like both bounds but [1:33:28] on that one side cuz I know some bike [1:33:30] lanes are like that where it's like both [1:33:33] ways but it's just like on one side of [1:33:35] the street and saves a lot more [1:33:38] space yeah okay thank you we'll try to [1:33:41] answer some of those questions um Mike [1:33:50] mohill [1:33:52] evening council members my name is Mike [1:33:54] mohill I was in the comfort of my home a [1:33:57] little while ago watching the council [1:34:00] meeting and uh this project came up what [1:34:04] what caught my eye was you did a survey [1:34:07] and x amount of people answered the [1:34:10] survey probably knowing history maybe [1:34:15] 100 maybe [1:34:17] two but I doubt if a thousand people or [1:34:20] more answered the survey [1:34:22] how can you get a th people to answer [1:34:25] your survey when you require the public [1:34:27] to go to the city [1:34:29] website or for people will knock on [1:34:33] doors can I make a suggestion and it's [1:34:35] free to the [1:34:37] city your Glendo Community newsletter [1:34:39] goes out to thousands of Glendo [1:34:41] residents and [1:34:44] Beyond and it's free to the [1:34:46] public if you want to put an [1:34:49] announcement for a survey [1:34:52] put it in your glender community [1:34:56] newsletter and people could answer that [1:34:58] survey and send it into the city [1:35:02] manager then you'll have a survey how [1:35:05] people feel now the only people who are [1:35:08] impacted this right now are probably the [1:35:09] people who live live in the meded [1:35:12] area but you know I live over there by [1:35:14] uh sh [1:35:16] Canyon you know I feel sorry for the [1:35:18] people they want bike Lan that's fine [1:35:21] okay [1:35:22] but why don't you get an opinion from [1:35:23] the rest of the city not just for the [1:35:26] people who live around the [1:35:29] corridor now my wife right now is very [1:35:31] mad at I'm talking about this subject [1:35:32] matter by the [1:35:33] way she said what you should be talking [1:35:36] about Mike is the traffic by the advaned [1:35:39] hospital that's where you should talk [1:35:41] about slowing down [1:35:44] traffic but let's talk about [1:35:46] surveys let's let's do realistic surveys [1:35:51] not not just a couple hundred people get [1:35:54] a couple thousand [1:35:56] residents they will let you know the [1:35:59] people who live up in Mantra will let [1:36:01] you know the people who live up in [1:36:03] Whiting Woods will let you know Ros Mo [1:36:06] Glenn Oaks [1:36:07] Canyon South [1:36:10] Glendale Adams Hill will let you know [1:36:13] but not just the couple hundred people [1:36:15] who live along San Fernando Road thank [1:36:19] you like I said my Community newslet is [1:36:22] free to the public even the city can use [1:36:25] it as Announcement by [1:36:30] now we we have one caller Dennis W [1:36:34] Dennis you're on air you have three [1:36:37] minutes hi can everybody hear [1:36:39] me yes go ahead hello Council my name is [1:36:43] Dennis mwyn and I'm a resident of [1:36:44] Glendale and live a mile within a mile [1:36:46] from San Fernando Road I travel that [1:36:48] road often as a driver but never as a [1:36:50] cyclist was frankly due to the danger of [1:36:53] the proximity and the speed of the car [1:36:54] is traveling on that road I'm calling [1:36:57] today to voice my support for [1:36:58] alternative 2A while I believe that the [1:37:01] best option is alternative three and [1:37:02] it's alternative but with the concerns [1:37:05] of the First Responders I can understand [1:37:06] why I cannot be completed as currently [1:37:08] designed I believe that there are [1:37:10] options that can create a protected bik [1:37:11] Lane in both directions such as the [1:37:13] enforcement of parking rules reducing [1:37:15] the number of abandoned cars client cars [1:37:17] from adjacent body auto body shops junk [1:37:19] hauling trucks crashed vehicles Etc [1:37:22] maybe widen the media and put the bike [1:37:23] Lanes in the middle of that to protect [1:37:24] cyclist or road diet I'm positive that [1:37:27] design team can come up with an [1:37:28] alternative that promote Mobility safety [1:37:31] and [1:37:32] equality the installation of a bike lane [1:37:34] would create a bike network of bike [1:37:35] lanes that would promote a community of [1:37:37] Wellness Glendale is a great city with [1:37:39] the network of drivers being a dark [1:37:41] cloud hovering over the heads of its [1:37:42] citizens we have a wonderful opportunity [1:37:44] here to continue to separate ourselves [1:37:46] from Los Angeles city with a priori [1:37:49] prioritization well big word on the [1:37:51] citizens of the juel city we're a [1:37:53] society of people and the implementation [1:37:55] of 2A would be a step towards taking the [1:37:56] road back for pedestrians and cyclists [1:37:58] and reducing our dependency on cars [1:38:00] thank [1:38:01] you thank you and that's all of our [1:38:06] callers that's all okay wonderful Let's [1:38:09] uh go around and see what we have thank [1:38:13] you um let me ask [1:38:16] uh let's see Mr [1:38:20] Somerville could we do to the two [1:38:23] different options the uh 2A north of the [1:38:25] 134 and um the two the two south of 134 [1:38:31] I mean that sounds maybe like a good [1:38:34] idea Is it feasible yes right is it [1:38:37] impactful for the parking because there [1:38:39] are 63 parking stalls on Street on San [1:38:41] Fernando Road that's south of the 134 [1:38:44] that would be eliminated by doing [1:38:46] alternative 2 South of the 134 freeway [1:38:49] how many 63 [1:38:52] 63 okay and the other question is um the [1:38:57] median is right now designed at 9 ft [1:39:00] correct correct is it possible to make [1:39:03] it narrower so that you know we were um [1:39:06] the mayor was asking about the buffer or [1:39:09] about a it would take three feet uh to [1:39:12] put um another bike path I get a bike [1:39:15] lane on the other side uh could you [1:39:18] decrease the median and then give us a [1:39:22] give us parking and a bike path bike [1:39:24] lane I'm sorry bike lane on the east [1:39:28] side the 9 ft is the absolute minimum [1:39:32] width for the left turn movements that [1:39:34] are required at each of the [1:39:35] intersections along sanfernando Road [1:39:38] it's also the minimum required if we [1:39:40] stripe it as a [1:39:42] two-way left turn [1:39:44] lane for um access in and out of [1:39:48] driveways along the corridor that's [1:39:50] currently been [1:39:51] designed into the project so anything [1:39:54] less than nine in all of the left term [1:39:57] movements would go away or again it's [1:40:00] it's the matter of having to transition [1:40:01] in and out as we go and the length it [1:40:04] takes to actually make those transitions [1:40:07] work with very short spacing [1:40:11] intersection to intersection to [1:40:12] intersection it's it's say the 14 out of [1:40:17] the 17 blocks you're unable to actually [1:40:19] Implement any form of buffer at 3T [1:40:22] because of the length you need to make [1:40:23] the transitions [1:40:25] work thank [1:40:28] you council member Satan any questions [1:40:32] um could you respond to Kate anger's [1:40:35] question about um the ability to put [1:40:38] bike Lanes um by the [1:40:42] 134 yes it is she's not wrong it is very [1:40:46] tight underneath that freeway in order [1:40:48] to um provide the Dual left that that's [1:40:51] required in the southbound um we have [1:40:53] narrowed the lanes through there in [1:40:55] order to fit the one southbound bike [1:40:58] lane in there an alternative [1:41:04] 2A um follow up on that one yeah of [1:41:06] course so so that so you've worked out [1:41:09] so is there is there a need for any [1:41:11] special signal there for because I I [1:41:14] can't picture it I'm sorry but but a [1:41:16] bike traversing cars getting onto the [1:41:18] freeway how does the signaling work [1:41:20] there [1:41:21] the um southbound the class 2 bike lane [1:41:24] in the southbound direction is running [1:41:26] along that Westerly curb so it's running [1:41:28] right along the railroad Corridor so the [1:41:31] bikes themselves are not in conflict [1:41:34] with those making the left turn to go [1:41:36] onto Dorne Street to go to the freeway [1:41:38] they're runting parallel to the [1:41:39] southbound movement of [1:41:41] cars okay okay did you have another [1:41:46] question [1:41:48] um no I just have comments so I'll [1:41:52] wait okay Council Riv kasak I asked all [1:41:55] my questions thanks okay um I don't have [1:41:59] much but [1:42:01] um I did want to see if you could [1:42:05] respond to two questions that uh one of [1:42:08] the speakers raised one was why couldn't [1:42:10] we do more of San Fernando and the other [1:42:13] was about uh two-way bike lane um if you [1:42:18] could just explain I know those were in [1:42:19] your pres well second one was in your [1:42:21] presentation but maybe you could just [1:42:23] run through it again for for everyone's [1:42:25] sake I'll let me take that one first and [1:42:27] I'll hand it to staff about the limit of [1:42:30] the project um on that side of it um but [1:42:33] yes the alternative 3A was effectively [1:42:36] that alternative that provided a two-way [1:42:40] cycle track on the west side of San [1:42:44] Fernando Road the space required for [1:42:48] that still necessitates the need to [1:42:52] remove one lane of traffic on the street [1:42:55] there's just not enough room curb to [1:42:56] curb to fit that facility in um [1:43:00] additionally um that alternative because [1:43:04] now we have two-way bike traffic on the [1:43:07] west side we have cyclists that are [1:43:09] going against traffic that requires [1:43:13] traffic signal modifications each one of [1:43:15] those [1:43:16] intersections and the those [1:43:17] intersections that include the rail [1:43:19] Corridor is what triggers the need to [1:43:21] involve the Public Utilities Commission [1:43:24] and metr Link and that's a 12 to 18month [1:43:26] process to get through that's what the [1:43:29] detriment to that [1:43:31] alternative okay and the first [1:43:36] question uh Mr Mayor the the limits of [1:43:39] the uh project were based on the [1:43:42] application you know the the Grant [1:43:44] application I believe that we had [1:43:45] submitted so that's those are that's the [1:43:48] extent that we have funding for okay all [1:43:52] right um may have one more question you [1:43:55] have another question I yes um the [1:43:59] images that were shown with the uh junk [1:44:04] trucks um along San Fernando I know this [1:44:08] is an issue that I've had conversations [1:44:11] with staff about previously um how do [1:44:15] they get to just park there cuz I know [1:44:17] we had that same issue that I had [1:44:19] brought up on col [1:44:21] where one of the mechanic shops was just [1:44:23] putting out all the cars um and not [1:44:27] allowing others to park there um it's [1:44:30] not just taking away parking um but it's [1:44:33] also uh just makes the street look [1:44:35] really ugly and you know I see San [1:44:37] Fernando also has a connector um Street [1:44:41] um when you're trying to go from Las VES [1:44:43] to the to glendell and then obviously [1:44:45] from glendell to Burbank so um what [1:44:48] rules do we have in place that can [1:44:53] help get rid of that um what are some [1:44:56] measures that we could put in place cuz [1:44:59] that seems to be an ongoing problem [1:45:01] council member saan I I believe the [1:45:04] pictures that the speaker was sharing [1:45:06] with you and showing were pictures of [1:45:08] trucks that haul away junk per se they [1:45:12] were not junk cars and I'm not sure if [1:45:16] there's a business on San Fernando or a [1:45:17] couple of businesses that are engaged in [1:45:19] that kind of business business and those [1:45:21] are the trucks they use for their [1:45:23] operation and and businesses as far as [1:45:26] the auto body shops that you're [1:45:27] referring to our code enforcement has [1:45:30] been out there our parking enforcement [1:45:32] been out there and they site them and uh [1:45:35] that's pretty much uh what we can [1:45:38] do so they remove them as we site [1:45:43] them okay and they they can keep them [1:45:46] there for like 3 days out of 10 72 hours [1:45:48] per the California vehicle code [1:45:51] and if it's even if it's the same [1:45:52] vehicle or they just rotate the cars [1:45:54] that they [1:45:56] have well [1:45:58] okay um and then if if we did go with 2A [1:46:04] um on the North side and then just two [1:46:07] on the south would this delay the [1:46:09] project [1:46:12] implementation if we moved forward with [1:46:15] 2A to the north two to the South um the [1:46:18] removal of the parking would [1:46:21] our recommendation the staff would be to [1:46:24] it'd be another round of Outreach to [1:46:25] those businesses specifically to [1:46:27] understand what the impact is to them to [1:46:30] have lost the on street parking and we [1:46:32] have gone door too through the corridor [1:46:35] we've heard from many of those [1:46:36] businesses and the the uniform message [1:46:41] was don't touch the parking they need it [1:46:44] so there was going to if we move forward [1:46:47] with that [1:46:49] solution the engagement with the [1:46:51] businesses is going to be a critical [1:46:53] step actually if I may um council member [1:46:56] Satan uh we don't have the time to do [1:46:59] any additional Outreach we're looking at [1:47:02] 10 months to get this project designed [1:47:04] and advertised and constructed so you [1:47:06] would have to rely on you know the [1:47:08] feedback that we got the first time [1:47:11] about the uh impact of removing [1:47:15] parking that's all the questions I have [1:47:17] I want to hear from my colleagues um [1:47:21] well I'll just wait when I make comments [1:47:23] so okay do you have comments we can I [1:47:26] think we can wrap it up okay well I [1:47:30] think the project is H is a good one um [1:47:32] revitalizing this Corridor is a good [1:47:34] idea and we've got the the funding for [1:47:36] it uh one thing I noticed uh in the uh [1:47:40] the staff report is the fact that if we [1:47:41] go with 2A there is still a possibility [1:47:44] in the future that we could add a bike [1:47:46] lane uh on the other side on the east [1:47:49] side so uh giving uh that inform given [1:47:53] that information um I think the median [1:47:55] the bump outs the C oh that reminds me [1:47:58] the crosswalks I don't see that maroon [1:48:00] and yellow do I on the oh good okay [1:48:03] great I just wanted to make sure that [1:48:05] wasn't going to happen down there um but [1:48:08] uh I think it's a again a good uh [1:48:11] compromise um I and U so I'm going to go [1:48:14] along with uh with that recommendation [1:48:17] that we use alternative 2A 2A okay [1:48:23] colleagues yeah so [1:48:25] um I I look very close to this [1:48:29] uh these proposed improvements and I can [1:48:32] tell you that I'm uh familiar with some [1:48:35] of the issues that um Miss hunger [1:48:37] pointed out and others have uh I I think [1:48:41] that there's not going to necessarily be [1:48:43] an ideal solution for anyone because [1:48:46] people are very used to um doing things [1:48:48] in in a certain way the business [1:48:50] businesses are accustomed to uh feeling [1:48:53] a sense some businesses not all but some [1:48:55] of the businesses have a sense of [1:48:56] entitlement to the parking of the public [1:48:58] parking that's available there um there [1:49:01] isn't necessarily um adherence to the [1:49:06] the rules of the road and to the speed [1:49:09] limit um at various times it does get [1:49:11] congested around um Rush Hour especially [1:49:14] as people are either trying to get onto [1:49:16] the 134 freeway or get off of it but do [1:49:20] believe that one of the things that we [1:49:22] continuously hear about and this is [1:49:25] being um presented in the in [1:49:28] the uh frame of we have to do this for [1:49:32] bicyclists or we have to do this for [1:49:35] pedestrians uh I'm not necessarily sure [1:49:38] if we build it they will come uh but the [1:49:40] ones who do use it I suppose will feel a [1:49:42] little bit safer if we have uh bike [1:49:45] Lanes I personally believe uh protected [1:49:47] bike lanes are the best but given a [1:49:50] number of considerations that we're [1:49:51] trying to balance including the access [1:49:54] um of uh first responder vehicles uh [1:49:57] whether it's police or fire I think that [1:50:00] um alternative 2A is the best compromise [1:50:03] we can come up with I would also I also [1:50:07] believe that whatever changes we make [1:50:09] may have present some challenges [1:50:11] initially but people will adapt they [1:50:14] will figure out ways around [1:50:16] it as far as San Fernando Road is [1:50:19] concerned and I've said before in these [1:50:21] Chambers and I'll say it again I have a [1:50:22] lot of Burbank Envy one of the few [1:50:25] things I envy about Burbank um is uh how [1:50:28] nice their section of San Fernando Road [1:50:30] looks in comparison to ours in [1:50:33] comparison to what we have in our [1:50:34] medians the the trees the shade um the [1:50:38] bus stops uh and I think we could do [1:50:41] better on our side now having said that [1:50:44] our section of San Fernando is not like [1:50:46] burbank's section of San Fernando theirs [1:50:48] leads immediately into into a very [1:50:50] vibrant downtown area it's more [1:50:52] commercial there's some residential [1:50:53] whereas ours goes through a much uh more [1:50:57] Industrial Area um it is a lot of [1:51:00] businesses a lot of shops um a lot of [1:51:03] mechanic uh shops and other other [1:51:06] different uses light industrial [1:51:09] nevertheless that shouldn't be an excuse [1:51:10] for it to look the way it does so I [1:51:13] think that we need to do some [1:51:15] improvements and I think 2A um hopefully [1:51:18] with some very creative [1:51:21] um Nice Landscaping with some more [1:51:23] mature trees will make it a more [1:51:25] inviting and nicer uh drive for people [1:51:28] to enjoy as they slow down with these [1:51:31] new changes thank you counc [1:51:35] verat um I think what we have in front [1:51:37] of is a beautification project and I [1:51:39] think that's what we need to be [1:51:41] concentrating on with understanding that [1:51:43] it's also an opportunity for us to um [1:51:47] use it to enhance it um I'm in agreement [1:51:50] with the 2A um I do have a couple of [1:51:52] comments with respect to I think as [1:51:54] we're thinking down the road and the [1:51:56] opportunities that are there um for the [1:51:59] future um to be mindful of the type of [1:52:02] green um that we're installing on the [1:52:04] railroad side um and making sure that [1:52:08] we're actually on the opposite side [1:52:10] where the sidewalk is for us to actually [1:52:12] have a lot more shade um and shaded [1:52:15] trees that um allow for pedestrians to [1:52:18] have a better experience [1:52:20] um I do want to commend the staff um and [1:52:23] the consultant on your community [1:52:26] outreach um I was very impressed to see [1:52:28] the door knocking numbers um and the [1:52:32] different [1:52:33] languages um in which you communicated [1:52:35] in and keep it the good work [1:52:38] thanks thanks and um for me I um I think [1:52:43] 2A is a good compromise I mean I would [1:52:46] you know if everything else were equal I [1:52:48] would just go for three or [1:52:50] too but um I just think this roadway [1:52:53] it's it's it's just too problematic um [1:52:56] not the right time but maybe something [1:52:59] we could come back to in the future uh [1:53:01] if uh Transportation patterns evolve so [1:53:05] I'm good with TOA I I I am intrigued by [1:53:08] this idea of two to the south of the 134 [1:53:10] I think um I think the speaker made it [1:53:14] you know a very convincing case that the [1:53:16] businesses that are there have their own [1:53:19] parking and people are not pulling up [1:53:21] and parking on the street to engage with [1:53:24] those [1:53:25] businesses um and a lot of it is red [1:53:28] curbs we're not losing that much parking [1:53:30] in that area so um and I don't know you [1:53:33] say you'd have to go back out and do [1:53:35] more Outreach but we've done the [1:53:37] Outreach we know the opinions um it's a [1:53:39] matter of us making a policy decision so [1:53:43] um if my colleagues were were amable I [1:53:46] would certainly support to to the the [1:53:50] south of the 134 and 2 a to the north um [1:53:54] but I'll leave it I'll leave it to the [1:53:55] rest of them on that the only other [1:53:57] thing I I I do want to bring up kind of [1:53:59] a smaller point which is on slide [1:54:02] 10 um this was brought to my attention [1:54:06] if you could pull up slide 10 there [1:54:09] um I think you're building in a slip [1:54:13] lane right is that that's not there now [1:54:16] right that where it says that slip lane [1:54:19] it says enhanced cross rock yeah current [1:54:22] currently it is a freeer turn movement [1:54:25] there this is the lane that heads on [1:54:27] Colorado to the freeway ramp um [1:54:32] the crosswalk today goes from Curb [1:54:36] return to curb return and there's a [1:54:37] painted Island out there today right um [1:54:41] this is looking we're looking at [1:54:43] alternatives for this um because we do [1:54:45] know the challenges of having the [1:54:47] interface of a free right turn movement [1:54:49] versus pedestrians and [1:54:50] cyclist um for Solutions this is one of [1:54:54] them that we're looking at with a raised [1:54:56] Island um it does shorten the the paths [1:54:59] of travel it moves The Pedestrian [1:55:02] crosswalk across that right turn linee [1:55:05] into an area more visible as opposed to [1:55:08] being further around the curb return [1:55:09] where it's at today um so there's [1:55:13] several Alternatives being evaluated [1:55:15] there is no final decision yet on what [1:55:18] this configuration is going to look like [1:55:20] yeah that that I mean we've talked about [1:55:22] slip Lanes before and how slip Lanes do [1:55:24] encourage uh speeding through an [1:55:27] intersection um obviously makes it [1:55:29] pretty easy and people are oriented [1:55:31] towards getting on the freeway so [1:55:32] they've got that that highspeed [1:55:34] mentality so they're going to be [1:55:35] whipping around that um anybody Crossing [1:55:38] that is probably um at some [1:55:41] risk uh and um you could you could just [1:55:46] have a a sharp turn radius there you [1:55:48] could just build it out right um where [1:55:50] you have it painted now you could build [1:55:52] it out uh I don't know what you would [1:55:54] put there but but I would personally I [1:55:57] would like to see us look at ways that [1:55:59] we can avoid uh creating um a a you know [1:56:04] a passageway there that's going to [1:56:05] really you know encourage people to [1:56:08] speed through it and potentially have [1:56:09] conflict with pedestrians so I would [1:56:11] just put that out but um I will um take [1:56:15] a motion in a second if unless anybody [1:56:17] has any more comments is there let me [1:56:20] just ask is there support for the no two [1:56:23] below the [1:56:25] 134 I would be open to it no I would not [1:56:29] I think that parking is very important [1:56:30] to the business owners and um I think [1:56:33] that's what we have to take into [1:56:35] consideration as well but she the thing [1:56:37] was she showed how the business owners [1:56:39] don't use that parking because they have [1:56:42] large parking lots for their businesses [1:56:44] that's where I'm I'm kind of that's what [1:56:47] was intriguing about that is if they [1:56:48] have their own parking people visiting [1:56:51] those businesses are not parking on the [1:56:53] street I don't know who is parking on [1:56:55] the street if I may Mr Mayor I'd like to [1:56:57] ask Mr Somerville to kind of talk a [1:56:59] little bit more about that Outreach and [1:57:01] what they found south of the uh the [1:57:03] freeway yeah and it goes back to the [1:57:06] door-to-door canvasing of the businesses [1:57:08] through the corridor as a whole and I [1:57:10] say unilaterally each of the businesses [1:57:13] we're very concerned about losing [1:57:15] parking um not every business has [1:57:19] off-site parking for themselves um it [1:57:24] the parking that was shown offsite are [1:57:27] all private lots for [1:57:29] businesses it's not public parking as [1:57:31] was mentioned previously um so like one [1:57:35] can one user can use another parking lot [1:57:38] if parking is eliminated they don't have [1:57:40] the right to be using the parking lot if [1:57:42] it's not their business so it's a it's a [1:57:45] little bigger picture view that would [1:57:48] have to be looked at about is it is [1:57:50] there really sufficient parking out [1:57:52] there today but again what we've heard [1:57:56] throughout the Outreach efforts [1:57:58] was the businesses are relying on the [1:58:00] parking for whether it's employees [1:58:02] whether it's [1:58:05] customers okay may I'm gonna I'm I'm [1:58:08] thinking to a 2 a okay that that answer [1:58:12] okay well let's get a motion okay I'll [1:58:14] I'll move um agend the motion accepting [1:58:17] staff's recommendation to proceed with [1:58:18] the design [1:58:19] for the implmentation of alternative 2A [1:58:22] a [1:58:24] second okay call please council members [1:58:28] asan yes Divine yes kakan yes Naran [1:58:33] mayor botman [1:58:34] yes thank you very much okay our next [1:58:38] item next is action item B glendel Water [1:58:41] and Power regarding Professional [1:58:42] Services agreement with energy and [1:58:44] environmental economics Inc E3 to assist [1:58:47] glendel water Empower with with the [1:58:49] development of a plan to increase solar [1:58:51] penetration and develop additional [1:58:53] distributed energy resources continued [1:58:56] from [1:58:57] a2223 CC [1:58:59] meeting uh one motion authorizing the [1:59:02] city manager or his designed to execute [1:59:04] a Professional Services agreement with [1:59:06] energy and environmental economics Inc [1:59:09] to assist with gwp with the development [1:59:11] of a plan to increase solar penetration [1:59:14] and develop additional distributed [1:59:15] energy resources in the not to exceed [1:59:18] amount of [1:59:26] [Laughter] [1:59:48] $335,500 going to be out of town but he [1:59:50] will be able to uh telephonically uh be [1:59:54] at the meeting mayor protm the next [1:59:56] meeting on city council will be on [1:59:58] September 12th on September 12th so if [2:00:00] we can um my colleagues would like to um [2:00:04] agree to postpone this till next week I [2:00:07] am in agreement with [2:00:10] that I'm sorry I I'm in [2:00:13] agreement understand [2:00:16] finean if the mayor has already [2:00:18] indicated his willingness to connect to [2:00:21] the meeting um remotely who I to argue [2:00:24] sure we can move it I would be in [2:00:26] agreement with my colleagues thank you [2:00:28] very much appreciate that okay next item [2:00:32] please next item is action item C [2:00:35] Community Development regarding landlord [2:00:37] tenant ad hoc committee update on work [2:00:39] plan continued from 822 2023 city [2:00:43] council meeting one motion to approve [2:00:44] landlord tenant ad hoc committee [2:00:46] suggestions on the rental rights program [2:00:49] with the intention of revisiting these [2:00:50] suggestions in a Redline version of the [2:00:52] ordinance at a subsequent Council meet [2:00:55] session two motion to approve rental [2:00:58] rights marketing strategy three motion [2:01:00] to provide Direction on the desire to [2:01:02] establish a dispute resolution mediation [2:01:08] program mayor bman and mayor protm dine [2:01:11] asked that uh because of the importance [2:01:14] of this item and the absence of council [2:01:17] member Naran we postponed this to the [2:01:19] next council meeting on September 12th [2:01:22] when we'll have a full Council and [2:01:24] you'll be able to call in as you had [2:01:28] noted uh and and your other two [2:01:31] colleagues uh agreed with that suggest I [2:01:35] I agreed on it based on the assumption [2:01:36] that that the mayor had said that [2:01:40] yeah we may have to postpone it till [2:01:43] till October in that [2:01:48] case [2:01:50] I mean had you not confirmed that no I [2:01:52] mean I'm on a trip to Europe you know um [2:01:55] to get up in the middle of the night to [2:01:57] make a vote on something that we talked [2:01:59] about is something I could do but to get [2:02:02] on for an important item like this [2:02:05] um is is you know that's not a [2:02:09] reasonable request council member Divine [2:02:11] did you have [2:02:14] information about the mayor's yeah I [2:02:17] understood that he would able to on yeah [2:02:20] B telephonically I did not agree to that [2:02:24] well staff's already gone so um well [2:02:27] then we're going to have to postpone it [2:02:29] till I'm I'm a little ped that I I was [2:02:32] led to believe that the mayor was going [2:02:34] to anyways I apologize mayor brotman [2:02:38] should have waited for you to return [2:02:39] into the chambers before we agreed to [2:02:42] move on to something that would have [2:02:43] been nice the mayor uh just for [2:02:46] clarification the mayor had indicated [2:02:48] that he is able to call in to vote but [2:02:52] as the mayor uh again uh indicated maybe [2:02:56] he can call in for uh to cast a vote but [2:03:00] to participate in deliberations maybe [2:03:02] that'll be difficult for [2:03:04] him oh I I think it would only be fair [2:03:07] that all parties that want to be here [2:03:10] are here in person and so I supported [2:03:13] that with the understanding that I was [2:03:17] under the impression that the mayor was [2:03:18] okay with the [2:03:21] okay so we'll wait until probably the [2:03:23] first meeting in October it will be [2:03:25] October 10th mayor pman all apologies to [2:03:27] anyone who my apologies to anyone who [2:03:29] came here expecting to have this [2:03:31] discussion this [2:03:35] evening okay it is what it [2:03:38] is [2:03:42] umman item 8C was already right to the [2:03:46] record [2:03:47] okay [2:03:50] so where are we now you want um mayor [2:03:52] bman mayor the city council at the last [2:03:55] council meeting last Tuesday you uh [2:03:58] received a report regarding the landlord [2:04:00] tenant ad hoc committee update on their [2:04:03] work plan um they had um primarily three [2:04:06] main tasks that included the rental [2:04:09] rights uh program [2:04:11] ordinance uh developing education and [2:04:13] marketing strategies and evaluating a [2:04:16] voluntary uh dispute resolution program [2:04:19] at the last meeting um uh Mr zadorian [2:04:23] presented the first item the first task [2:04:26] and received Direction and suggestions [2:04:29] from Council and Council decided to [2:04:31] continue the other two items to this [2:04:33] evening uh that will be related to [2:04:36] marketing strategies and again uh [2:04:38] voluntary dispe resolution program that [2:04:41] Mr zorian will walk you [2:04:43] through good afternoon mayor city [2:04:45] council uh as Mr Ganan said I'm going to [2:04:48] to be continuing the discussion on the [2:04:51] ad out committee's work plan we're going [2:04:53] to start with the marketing aspect and [2:04:54] then later on the mediation so the [2:04:58] council tasked with the committee with [2:05:00] uh looking into the marketing and [2:05:02] Outreach strategy of the uh rental [2:05:04] rights program uh staff took a couple of [2:05:07] reports to the committee the committee [2:05:09] discussed strategies and staff took [2:05:12] their insights and came up with this uh [2:05:14] report that we're presenting today um so [2:05:20] the committee had three goals in mind [2:05:22] when they discuss the strategy uh [2:05:25] including increasing awareness promoting [2:05:27] engagement and providing education and [2:05:29] resources uh so for the increased [2:05:32] awareness obviously we want to be uh we [2:05:34] want the community to know that we exist [2:05:36] uh they're aware of us want to get the [2:05:38] word out on the rental rights program so [2:05:39] tenants and landlords are aware of the [2:05:41] program and can utilize um the services [2:05:44] and the protections to promote [2:05:46] engagement we want the commune Community [2:05:49] to be able to come to us engage with our [2:05:52] content so we understand what their [2:05:54] needs are and we can better address [2:05:56] those needs and third uh provide [2:05:58] education and out uh resources obviously [2:06:00] we want to be able to have resources [2:06:02] available to provide to them when they [2:06:04] come to us when they visit our websites [2:06:06] when they see us on social media [2:06:11] and so the first part of [2:06:15] that well I have a slide missing here [2:06:17] but the first part of that was creating [2:06:19] a website uh that would serve as a hub [2:06:22] for the rental rights program our [2:06:24] current website is a little funky uh [2:06:26] it's hard to navigate so the goal was to [2:06:28] create a website that is user friendly [2:06:31] easy to navigate uh it serves as a [2:06:33] central hub for landlords and tenants to [2:06:35] access information uh guides find out [2:06:38] when events are coming up [2:06:41] uh frequently ask questions and an easy [2:06:44] place for for them to access have a [2:06:47] quick video here of the website what it [2:06:49] might look like uh so the main page [2:06:51] would include perent information uh easy [2:06:54] to [2:06:56] access guides contact information down [2:06:59] there and then up here you'd have uh [2:07:02] different links that lead to guides [2:07:04] again uh for fair housing ab1 1482 our [2:07:08] main brenal rights program just CA you [2:07:11] location ass distance and each of those [2:07:13] will have a detailed guide on what those [2:07:17] sections entail and then uh again more [2:07:22] guides and up there we go soon as events [2:07:26] you'll be able [2:07:27] to or resources I'm sorry so this page [2:07:31] will have a video guide in multiple [2:07:34] languages I forgot to mention that the [2:07:36] website will be available in multiple [2:07:37] languages including Armenian Spanish uh [2:07:40] tagalag and Korean at the very least uh [2:07:43] again events page you'll be able to go [2:07:45] and see what our future upcoming events [2:07:47] on FAQ for any question questions that [2:07:49] landlords or tenants have and a contact [2:07:52] page it just has our contact information [2:07:56] so the other aspect of our marketing is [2:07:58] social media something that we need to [2:08:00] improve on and the committee noticed [2:08:02] that and with as far as social media is [2:08:05] concerned um we're going to create new [2:08:08] content hopefully use the city's U [2:08:11] already existing social media platforms [2:08:14] to reach an a specific audience [2:08:16] considering social media we can Target [2:08:17] specific audiences that we want to get [2:08:20] the information that glendell residents [2:08:22] renters [2:08:23] homeowners um social media is going to [2:08:27] be targeting a younger audience versus [2:08:29] our traditional medium where we target [2:08:32] an older audience uh the good thing [2:08:34] about social media is that it's organic [2:08:37] sharing uh um the organic sharing allows [2:08:40] it to reach a wider audience so we might [2:08:43] create content for specific audience but [2:08:45] through the medium it gets shared with [2:08:48] but an audience that we weren't [2:08:49] expecting to share with so the reach is [2:08:52] much wider um we create again compelling [2:08:56] content [2:08:57] infograph um staff describing the [2:09:03] program so our traditional marketing [2:09:05] will continue uh with print material we [2:09:08] plan on sending targeted mailers uh [2:09:10] we've done this in the past where we [2:09:12] target uh majority of residents in [2:09:14] glendell and landlords in and outside of [2:09:17] glendell uh we will be uh sending flyers [2:09:20] and brur in the gwp mailers and uh we [2:09:25] also plan on sending BR to any new [2:09:27] properties that are purchased in [2:09:28] glendell so the landlords are aware of [2:09:29] our rules and reg regulations we also [2:09:33] plan on having inserts in what used to [2:09:35] be called the thirds day folders for [2:09:36] gusd I'm not sure what that process is [2:09:39] now but they do send out packets to [2:09:41] students so we plan on doing that as [2:09:45] well and another new part of of what the [2:09:49] committee uh recommended was creating [2:09:51] Partnerships in the community with [2:09:53] existing [2:09:54] organizations uh we want to build [2:09:56] relationships with management companies [2:09:58] tenant organizations landlord [2:09:59] organizations so we're aware of the [2:10:01] problems before they become much bigger [2:10:03] problems so we can address them quicker [2:10:05] uh so we can leverage resource resources [2:10:08] and expertise uh so we can train their [2:10:10] staff if they need training so we can [2:10:12] understand what their needs are as uh [2:10:14] landlords and [2:10:17] tenants [2:10:19] and then we will continue community [2:10:21] outreach uh our plan is to go into each [2:10:24] neighborhood of glendell have small [2:10:26] intimate meetings we used to have much [2:10:28] larger meetings but it U we found that [2:10:30] it wasn't effective not a lot of people [2:10:32] were showing up but our smaller intimate [2:10:34] meetings in specific neighborhoods we [2:10:37] were getting a lot of traction so we're [2:10:38] going to continue that uh we'll make [2:10:40] sure to cover uh all areas of glendell [2:10:43] multiple languages uh each month we will [2:10:46] be at a different neighborhood in GL [2:10:48] lendel just to make sure that we cover [2:10:49] cover our [2:10:52] bases and then yearly we will evaluate [2:10:54] the uh effectiveness of the Outreach So [2:10:59] based on how uh how how many people are [2:11:02] showing up at our meetings uh social [2:11:05] media analytics website reach um and we [2:11:09] will refine and optimize based on that [2:11:11] data to create a better program moving [2:11:13] forward create a better Outreach and see [2:11:15] where we're being effective and where [2:11:16] we're not uh this is the timeline of how [2:11:20] we plan on doing things so we'll [2:11:21] launched the website we'll conduct [2:11:23] surveys in the beginning so we can have [2:11:25] something to test against uh later on in [2:11:28] the months we'll develop print materials [2:11:30] in the second month launch the website [2:11:33] uh create [2:11:35] newsletters start booking venues for the [2:11:38] events and then on to the third and [2:11:41] fourth month start social media [2:11:43] advertising Distributing the print [2:11:46] materials five uh month five and six gwp [2:11:50] mailers uh Community workshops more [2:11:53] targeted social media advertising and [2:11:56] then the rest of it is basically repeat [2:11:58] until uh 910 where we analyze the [2:12:02] results and either come back to council [2:12:05] with a new plan or continue if it's an [2:12:07] effective uh marketing [2:12:09] strategy uh that concludes the first [2:12:11] part as far as [2:12:16] advertising um you want to just move on [2:12:19] and we'll do the second part and then [2:12:20] well why don't we just comment on this [2:12:22] have any comments well I just wanted to [2:12:23] say it seems like very comprehensive [2:12:25] marketing strategy uh you're hitting all [2:12:28] you know every neighborhood every trying [2:12:31] to get every person in the gwp mailing [2:12:34] list every language is being considered [2:12:37] you you've um simplified I think uh I'll [2:12:40] have to try it myself then I'll know uh [2:12:43] the uh the website so um thank you for [2:12:46] for all of this and uh um I hopefully [2:12:49] that uh you know we we can get the word [2:12:51] out using all of your your new [2:12:53] strategies thank [2:12:55] you do you have any questions or [2:12:57] comments or I I do okay okay well then [2:13:01] we'll go through this one first so um [2:13:04] currently how does one get a hold of a [2:13:06] live person I think that the website [2:13:09] that you showed has pretty good [2:13:11] information on there but if someone [2:13:13] wants to speak to an actual person and I [2:13:16] say this because I know that the city [2:13:18] went through an exercise of creating a [2:13:20] number of Phone trees and Pathways to [2:13:23] try and um create efficiencies I [2:13:27] personally am a little oldfashioned and [2:13:29] I like to actually speak to a living [2:13:31] human being right so uh our hotline we [2:13:34] have a hotline it's on all on on all our [2:13:36] brur it's [2:13:46] 8185483280 and rent glendaleca.gov if [2:13:50] anyone wants to email [2:13:52] us both again myself and Andra need [2:13:55] respond and so this is a number through [2:13:57] which we received uh what was it about [2:14:00] 600 or 800 calls or uh the 600 calls [2:14:04] would be this year but it's already 800 [2:14:06] since uh I believe the report was [2:14:08] released but 800 calls that's the number [2:14:10] that uh people are calling that's how [2:14:14] how we're getting that figure so um [2:14:16] after someone calls that number and [2:14:18] we've spoken to them do we ask a [2:14:21] question how did you hear about this [2:14:22] number no we have not been asking that [2:14:24] question okay um I would like to see us [2:14:27] ask that question because that is going [2:14:29] to help us understand where and how [2:14:31] people are getting information they [2:14:33] obviously found the number it would be [2:14:34] good to know which of the methods of [2:14:36] getting the information out there is [2:14:37] most effective maybe people are using an [2:14:40] online search engine to come across it [2:14:41] or you know they're Meandering through [2:14:44] the Maze of a municipal website find it [2:14:46] um also a bus ads are we going to be [2:14:49] utilizing bus shelter ads or our own um [2:14:52] beine buses to promote this program that [2:14:55] has been a thought but we haven't really [2:14:57] looked into it we can look into doing [2:14:59] that we thought about it but nothing [2:15:01] serious but we [2:15:03] can well I I I would certainly support [2:15:06] the idea of using bus um our bus system [2:15:09] to get the information out there in fact [2:15:11] the more we can do the better but uh I [2:15:14] also would like us to know how people [2:15:15] are hearing about us and then also if [2:15:18] there is the possibility I don't want to [2:15:20] inundate folks um with information but [2:15:24] uh getting a survey answered uh or a few [2:15:28] questions that can ascertain what their [2:15:31] impression of of the service that they [2:15:34] received or the answers they received [2:15:35] was was it helpful was it not helpful [2:15:38] Etc thank [2:15:41] you um you went through the website [2:15:44] really quickly um I didn't catch um is [2:15:48] there an option um for translation of [2:15:51] the website materials yes uh we're going [2:15:53] to have it available in again Spanish [2:15:56] Armenian Korean talag and every other [2:15:59] language that we have access to with [2:16:01] through the translator okay um I think [2:16:04] the two other I mean this is really um [2:16:07] impressive and extensive um I would [2:16:10] definitely add um ethnic [2:16:14] media um to your list for outreach um I [2:16:17] think whether it's the um Latino [2:16:20] Community the Filipino and Korean or the [2:16:24] Armenian um the demographic tends to [2:16:27] also the most vulnerable tend to also [2:16:29] turn to you know even like the Army and [2:16:32] TV stations um for their information and [2:16:36] whether it's through interviews or [2:16:38] through an ad that we can we can place [2:16:42] and then I think with the Partnerships [2:16:45] um one of the names or one of the [2:16:47] categories that I think is missing is [2:16:48] the senior buildings and the senior [2:16:51] housing buildings I think you know [2:16:53] making sure that this information is [2:16:55] also reaching the [2:16:57] seniors would be critical that's [2:17:00] it thank you and yeah I I'll just say I [2:17:04] I think this is really strong uh [2:17:07] comprehensive plan and uh I'm excited to [2:17:10] see us execute it um on the on the [2:17:15] rotating workshops I I I like I like [2:17:18] that and and hope that um and I think [2:17:20] the intent is is to be reaching out to [2:17:22] both tenants and landlords and making [2:17:24] sure that um the community on you know [2:17:27] both both of these groups understand [2:17:29] what the rules of the road are um [2:17:32] because um as I've spoken to some people [2:17:36] about I think part of the problem is [2:17:37] people just don't necessarily know what [2:17:40] the obligations are of a landlord what [2:17:42] the what the obligations are of a tenant [2:17:43] and the rights and and all that so um so [2:17:47] it's great [2:17:48] yeah okay let's move on then to the next [2:17:53] piece [2:17:58] so no we're not done we're not done the [2:18:01] agenda yeah we'll move on to the second [2:18:03] part so the third U act action or the [2:18:08] third item that the committee was uh uh [2:18:11] signed to review was a mediation program [2:18:13] and the possibility of implementing one [2:18:16] in glendel um I'm going to present the [2:18:19] a PowerPoint similar to what was [2:18:22] presented to the committee and then we [2:18:24] can discuss their uh s suggestions on a [2:18:27] mediation program so as you all are [2:18:30] aware a mediation program is uh designed [2:18:32] to basically bring two parties together [2:18:34] to come to a conclu uh or work things [2:18:37] out as simple as that uh two parties [2:18:40] that have an issue uh it's designed to [2:18:42] put them in a room together so they can [2:18:44] come to a conclusion that's beneficial [2:18:46] for both parties or find find some [2:18:47] common [2:18:48] ground um if the council decides that [2:18:51] they want to move forward with a [2:18:53] mediation program there are going to be [2:18:54] a few points decision points uh we'll [2:18:58] have to decide whether it's a voluntary [2:18:59] program or mediation or mandatory [2:19:01] program so that would mean whether the [2:19:04] landlords or tenants are required to [2:19:06] participate or their participation is [2:19:09] voluntary we would have to figure out [2:19:11] what type of disputes the program [2:19:12] addresses rent increases security [2:19:14] deposits evictions um what who operates [2:19:17] the program whether it's a professional [2:19:19] staff that we hire or outside uh [2:19:23] consultant or commission or board um [2:19:26] outcome type binding or non-binding uh [2:19:28] technically this would have to be [2:19:30] non-binding otherwise it would fall into [2:19:32] the CATE category of arbitration and [2:19:34] we're looking at mediation so this would [2:19:36] have to be non-binding and then [2:19:38] exemptions what type of properties are [2:19:39] exempt who's exempt is a duplex of [2:19:41] single fames in included in the program [2:19:44] uh hearing type is it a formal process [2:19:46] is it going to be be informal just a [2:19:48] phone call have people discuss it over [2:19:50] the phone on Zoom um and then is will [2:19:54] there be an ability to appeal the [2:19:55] decision if a decision is [2:19:58] made so when staff looked into programs [2:20:01] we looked at other municipalities that [2:20:03] had similar mediation programs we [2:20:06] focused on the City of Burbank County of [2:20:08] marine and Santa Monica city of Santa [2:20:11] Monica uh they all have varying programs [2:20:13] that's why we decided to go with these [2:20:15] three and they were the only ones that [2:20:17] respond to our emails uh City of Burbank [2:20:20] has a program U that's ran through its [2:20:23] commission the commission is similar to [2:20:25] our committee it's made up of landlords [2:20:27] and tenants that are U assigned by their [2:20:30] city council it's a non-mandatory [2:20:32] non-binding program uh they address rent [2:20:36] increases evictions relocations [2:20:37] basically all tenant and landlord [2:20:39] related issues in 2022 they had about 87 [2:20:44] uh individuals or families in uh [2:20:47] ask for mediation from the committee is [2:20:50] submitted to the city for review so the [2:20:52] way their process works is uh if someone [2:20:55] calls into their City of Burbank they [2:20:57] say I'm having a problem with my landl [2:20:59] I'm having a problem with my tenant the [2:21:01] staff offers mediation through their [2:21:03] commission uh form is filled out it's [2:21:06] given to the commission the individual [2:21:08] either goes in front of the commission [2:21:10] or if it's a it's something that the [2:21:11] staff can handle they give them uh their [2:21:14] Solutions I have a little exerpt from [2:21:15] one of their meetings so someone um went [2:21:18] to the commission for mediation and [2:21:21] basically it's very basic all they did [2:21:23] was provide information to the tenant so [2:21:26] that their program is bare none it's [2:21:29] very informal it's just information they [2:21:31] don't really get in a room together with [2:21:34] a tenant and landlord and try to discuss [2:21:36] their issue so it's very B basic Just [2:21:38] for information I I have a question yeah [2:21:40] I thought the Burbank had a three-person [2:21:42] committee that handled these and it was [2:21:44] mostly education Outreach it wasn't I [2:21:47] didn't think it was the commission that [2:21:49] handled these cases so I believe the [2:21:52] commission assigns their members to [2:21:54] handle them so they might have signed [2:21:57] three individuals to handle these type [2:21:59] of cases but each time I think uh [2:22:01] commission members are assigned [2:22:03] depending on what type of problems the [2:22:06] public go I know they had they had at [2:22:07] least one resident on the on the on that [2:22:10] committee Susie Jacobs was one of them [2:22:13] and um she she resigned so um I don't [2:22:16] even know how what what they're doing [2:22:18] right now but uh it was mostly Outreach [2:22:20] and education like you said those are [2:22:22] really mediation yeah that's the uh [2:22:25] commissioner job is um education and [2:22:27] Outreach but they they also mediate or [2:22:30] what they call [2:22:31] mediation um so we spoke to the staff [2:22:34] regarding funding they said because it's [2:22:37] part of their bigger housing program [2:22:38] they couldn't identify exactly how much [2:22:40] it cost but they did say it's about [2:22:42] 100,000 to administer program um they [2:22:45] have dedicated staff just for the [2:22:47] program or one mediator I should [2:22:50] say and then Marine county is a [2:22:53] mandatory non-binding program with [2:22:55] Marine County the only portion of it [2:22:56] that's mandatory is when the rent is [2:22:58] increased over 5% so if a landlord [2:23:00] increases ATT tenants rent over 5% and [2:23:03] that tenant wants mediation they can [2:23:06] request it and the landlord is required [2:23:08] to participate if they want the rents [2:23:10] increased uh tenant can agree with the [2:23:13] increase doesn't have to request [2:23:15] mediation uh but if they do landlord is [2:23:17] required to participate all other [2:23:20] disputes secure deposit evictions [2:23:22] they're not mandatory so the the [2:23:24] landlord does not have to [2:23:26] participate uh they had 118 cases were [2:23:30] mediated 287 were [2:23:32] requested [2:23:34] um the process I forgot to mention [2:23:36] Burbank it takes about a month to [2:23:38] mediate the process and for Marines [2:23:40] County case it's 8 to 12 [2:23:42] weeks and their budget again it was part [2:23:45] of their bigger program they weren't [2:23:48] able to narrow anything down with Marine [2:23:50] County they actually work with uh a [2:23:52] couple of other cities to administer the [2:23:54] program and they also have dedicated [2:23:58] staff and last Santa Monica it's a n non [2:24:02] man uh non-mandatory non-binding program [2:24:05] it's part of their bigger rent control [2:24:06] program uh they cover all tenant [2:24:09] landlord disputes but again it's not [2:24:11] mandatory to participate they had 111 [2:24:14] rent decrease cases 11 Construction [2:24:17] decrease cases and 16 excessive rent [2:24:20] cases um they take about 180 days to [2:24:24] respond but currently it takes much [2:24:26] longer according to staff and uh their [2:24:29] total budget is 5 million and they again [2:24:31] couldn't pinpoint how much of that is [2:24:33] spent on mediation 5 million is for [2:24:35] their entire rent control budget and [2:24:37] they have uh multiple staff that [2:24:39] administers one hearing officer uh oh [2:24:42] sorry three hearing officers one [2:24:44] mediator so they got a a big staff and [2:24:47] they cover all their run control units [2:24:48] so it's a much much bigger [2:24:51] program before we move on to potential [2:24:54] costs I do want to mention that glendell [2:24:56] had a program about in 2002 it lasted [2:25:00] all of six months I believe it was a [2:25:02] voluntary program uh no one participated [2:25:04] so it was discontinued um just wanted to [2:25:08] mention that we did attempt this about [2:25:10] 20 years ago again it was [2:25:13] voluntary 6 months I believe it lasted [2:25:15] before it was discontinued [2:25:17] um so potential cost again we couldn't [2:25:19] get anything specific from the other [2:25:21] cities but staff was able to put [2:25:23] something together based on how much it [2:25:24] would cost to hire a mediator or [2:25:27] professionals that do mediation or an [2:25:29] agency that would perform those services [2:25:31] or something that's more formal uh for a [2:25:34] formal process is upwards of [2:25:36] 300,000 uh for mediation with a [2:25:39] commission similar to burbank's we [2:25:41] estimated around 990,000 most uh for an [2:25:44] informal voluntary participation again [2:25:47] uh similar [2:25:49] to the one we had earlier we think if we [2:25:52] hire a professional it would be upwards [2:25:54] of 200,000 and then if we [2:25:57] Outsource uh could cost anywhere from 20 [2:25:59] to 100,000 depending on how many cases [2:26:01] we're referring to them and uh how we [2:26:04] set up the [2:26:06] programs so the adoc committee discussed [2:26:09] everything uh they recommended that the [2:26:12] city at least try for a few months a [2:26:15] mediation program voluntary mediation [2:26:18] program a [2:26:19] non-binding uh to cover most every [2:26:22] Everything a tenant or landlord could [2:26:24] have a dispute about rent increases [2:26:26] secur deposit evictions habitability [2:26:28] relocation and other relevant issues uh [2:26:32] they uh suggested a hybrid model with a [2:26:35] board and commission similar to Burbank [2:26:37] and dedicated staff so a mediator plus a [2:26:41] board um again they discussed that the [2:26:44] mediate should mediator should have [2:26:48] uh the proper qualifications and [2:26:50] training to [2:26:52] mediate uh they felt that a formal [2:26:55] process would be best so nothing [2:26:57] informal they want both tenant and [2:26:59] landlord in a room together to discuss [2:27:01] their issues with a mediator prison [2:27:03] instead of maybe a staff member calling [2:27:05] the landlord and tenant trying to [2:27:07] mediate the situation for them they want [2:27:09] a formal process [2:27:12] um I have I think that concludes my [2:27:15] presentation so ultimately the med the [2:27:18] committee's suggestion was to have a [2:27:20] program um and a trial run and then [2:27:24] ultimately see how that works before we [2:27:27] commit to [2:27:28] anything okay thank you let's uh see if [2:27:31] we have questions before we go to the [2:27:33] callers are there [2:27:35] questions questions I just have one um [2:27:39] have we looked to see if LA county has [2:27:42] anything CU I'm looking you know one of [2:27:44] these options that you laid out in front [2:27:46] of us is [2:27:47] so LA county has a mediation program [2:27:50] through their consumer and business [2:27:52] Affairs Department I believe uhhuh um I [2:27:56] it works similar tenants landlords [2:27:58] request [2:27:59] mediation uh they con contact them [2:28:02] schedule a date it's it's voluntary so [2:28:04] neither party has to participate I'm not [2:28:08] 100% sure I I contacted them to see how [2:28:10] many uh cases they've had within glendel [2:28:13] I haven't heard back uh but that is an [2:28:16] option but Marine counties is mandatory [2:28:19] Marine county is mandatory only when the [2:28:21] increas is above 5% a rent increases [2:28:23] above 5% the other issues they're not [2:28:26] mandatory so if the lieutenant and [2:28:28] landlord are having a problem with uh [2:28:31] the laundry facility not working that [2:28:34] they're not going to dispute that those [2:28:35] types of situations oh so Maring [2:28:37] counties is uh required if it's sorry [2:28:40] council member end it's required for [2:28:42] five more than 5% how does that um so [2:28:46] work with the state uh [2:28:49] rules caps so the state cap is [2:28:53] 8.8% um I would assume that if an [2:28:56] increase is above [2:28:58] 5% they require that mediation to take [2:29:01] place so their increase can't be above [2:29:03] 8% at no any time um but if it's above [2:29:06] 5% and the Tenant wants the mediation [2:29:09] the landlord is required to [2:29:12] participat div and uh also in Marine C [2:29:16] oh sorry that's Santa Monica they have [2:29:18] fees that are attached to their [2:29:20] mediation right their fees are I think [2:29:23] mostly related to their rent control [2:29:25] program that cuz it's a much different [2:29:27] animal of Santa Monica but we want to [2:29:29] include it just so there's a variety uh [2:29:32] because a lot of these mediation [2:29:34] programs are attached to rent control [2:29:36] programs throughout California at [2:29:39] least okay thank you more um do you need [2:29:44] anything about um us working with [2:29:46] neighborhood Legal Services right uh [2:29:48] neighbor Legal Services we do refer in [2:29:51] people there but they only handle [2:29:53] evictions and at the point of where [2:29:55] they're at unlawful detainers so if the [2:29:58] landlord issues an eviction they won't [2:30:00] take it on until that tenant has [2:30:02] officially been evicted through unlawful [2:30:04] detainer through the courts uh they [2:30:07] they're just inundated so they don't [2:30:09] have time to take on every case and do [2:30:12] we know of any other community resources [2:30:15] that are available that don't have that [2:30:17] load uh we refer to housing rights [2:30:20] Center as well Armenia Bar Association [2:30:23] but everybody's pretty pretty busy [2:30:27] okay okay let's um let's hear from our [2:30:31] speakers and do we have any callers we [2:30:33] do not have any callers don't okay well [2:30:35] we have three speakers we'll start with [2:30:37] Karen [2:30:43] qua hi I'm Karen Clark I watch most but [2:30:47] not all 11 meetings of the tenant [2:30:49] landlord committee I spoke once or twice [2:30:51] but mostly I listened with a lot of [2:30:52] Parental Pride as Mr Peter Zak noted the [2:30:55] medior was released after a couple of [2:30:57] meetings because they were not needed Mr [2:31:00] zovak and Mr zadorian did a fine job of [2:31:03] mediating the discussions themselves by [2:31:05] the way that's a genuine compliment from [2:31:06] me to the city I don't make them often [2:31:08] please enjoy it while it [2:31:10] lasts if the five of you have not [2:31:12] watched any of these committee meetings [2:31:14] I highly recommend that you do so [2:31:16] because they are unlike the discussions [2:31:18] held by any other City border commission [2:31:21] I suggest that you watch the meeting [2:31:22] from February 22 2023 where two tenants [2:31:26] came to talk about the serious [2:31:27] electrical problem they had for months [2:31:29] in an apartment they rented from one of [2:31:31] the landlord members of the tenant [2:31:33] landord committee that particular [2:31:35] landlord had spent months bragging about [2:31:38] what a great landlord he was and how his [2:31:40] tenants had no complaints about him well [2:31:43] after that more of his tenants came [2:31:45] forth to complain about the their [2:31:46] Apartments this is why it's critical to [2:31:48] hear from tants directly instead of [2:31:51] relying on the word of landlords if you [2:31:53] see any other landlords who come to City [2:31:55] Hall bragging about what great landlords [2:31:57] they are I suggest that you take their [2:31:59] claims with a bucket of salt and ask to [2:32:01] hear what their tenants think the [2:32:03] committee members staff and public [2:32:05] engaged in Lively discussions to reach [2:32:07] the recommendations that you're [2:32:08] considering today the gentleman in the [2:32:10] neutral seat on the committee is [2:32:12] actually a landlord so if anything the [2:32:14] committee's conclusions represent the [2:32:16] use of landlords more than that of [2:32:18] tenants Mr neutral landlord judge was [2:32:21] part of the legal team that wrote [2:32:22] glendale's just cause eviction ordinance [2:32:24] about 20 years ago and he was the first [2:32:27] to say that the ordinance needs to be [2:32:28] clarified and [2:32:29] updated I love it when committee members [2:32:32] in City staff cover all the points that [2:32:33] need to be covered so that I don't need [2:32:35] to say anything I have one suggestion [2:32:38] however from my unique Vantage Point [2:32:40] most of the committee members do not [2:32:42] watch City Council meetings and correct [2:32:44] me if I'm wrong but not none of you have [2:32:46] watched any tendent llord committee [2:32:48] meetings this makes it hard for the [2:32:50] committee to understand how they can [2:32:52] advise the council and it also makes it [2:32:54] hard for the council to know what the [2:32:55] committee can do this Gap can be bridged [2:32:58] by assigning a council of the aison to [2:33:00] each City commission or board like my [2:33:02] former City of Salem [2:33:04] Massachusetts Salem has over n over 40 [2:33:07] City commissions and 11 council members [2:33:09] so that works out to about four [2:33:11] commissions per council member Glendo [2:33:13] has 13 City commissions so that would be [2:33:15] two or three commissions per council [2:33:17] member this would improve the flow of [2:33:19] information between commissions and the [2:33:20] City Council in both directions while [2:33:22] also lifting pressure from City staff [2:33:25] this is why I have no problem increasing [2:33:26] council member salaries because I plan [2:33:28] to make you all work for it also yes [2:33:31] committee should act as a body for [2:33:33] mediation or arbitration I spent many [2:33:35] many hours in this chamber listening to [2:33:37] design review board cases which mostly [2:33:40] boil down to private disputes between [2:33:42] homeowners tenant landlord issues [2:33:44] deserve at least as much a time [2:33:46] considering that we're the majority of [2:33:48] the city thank you thank you Herbert [2:34:01] Milano uh mayor bran members of the city [2:34:04] council and staff my name is Herbert [2:34:06] mulano I took the liberty of writing up [2:34:09] some of the topics that I wanted to [2:34:10] address today the [2:34:13] um the city has had a resource that is [2:34:17] quite valuable I think and that resource [2:34:20] is the Cog of all of the tenant and [2:34:25] landlord questions and complaints that [2:34:28] uh have been prevalent in the past few [2:34:31] years so apparently this year we've had [2:34:33] about 800 of these particular [2:34:35] calls [2:34:37] and I am concerned that that particular [2:34:41] log was not included as part of the [2:34:43] dialogue that was presented to the [2:34:46] committee if we are if we really want to [2:34:49] address the issues that are relevant and [2:34:52] present to a lot of people those call [2:34:54] logs should have been parsed categorized [2:34:58] presented in summary evaluated and say [2:35:01] here are the most Salient problems that [2:35:03] we have in glenvill these are the most [2:35:06] common questions that people have and [2:35:08] they become a guide for you to Define [2:35:11] how should you do the Outreach how [2:35:13] should you advertise it who really needs [2:35:16] the information who absolutely needs to [2:35:18] have [2:35:19] it so if there is a purchase of a new [2:35:23] building and the prior landlord wants to [2:35:26] increase [2:35:28] rents those tenants need to have that [2:35:30] information right away as to what are [2:35:32] their [2:35:34] rights if a new landlord thinks that the [2:35:37] law allows him to do certain things and [2:35:40] the law doesn't he needs to be clear on [2:35:42] what those questions are if a tenant is [2:35:45] being given an increase that is beyond [2:35:47] what the law allows they should have [2:35:49] that information so any type of Outreach [2:35:51] needs to address that [2:35:54] data how many are there what are the [2:35:57] number of problems that this other [2:35:59] services provide if Neighborhood Legal [2:36:02] Services is collecting the data and [2:36:04] servicing people shouldn't you have that [2:36:06] data as well so my point is that proper [2:36:10] data collection proper data analysis [2:36:12] gives you the guidelines as to what [2:36:16] policies to implement and how to [2:36:17] implement [2:36:19] them I'm of the belief that a periodic [2:36:23] evaluation of those results how many [2:36:26] calls you're [2:36:27] getting um how many compl do you have [2:36:30] relative to from one year to the next [2:36:32] gives you an evaluation of whether the [2:36:34] ordinance is working or not and whether [2:36:36] the Outreach is working or not and if it [2:36:38] is I'm assuming that the cost will be [2:36:41] reduced by the following year right the [2:36:43] fewer contentious problems you have and [2:36:45] any information that an utsman would [2:36:47] actually execute would also need to be [2:36:49] analyzed so my recommendation is that it [2:36:51] be brought back to the ARA committee for [2:36:54] evaluation as to how to establish proper [2:36:57] ways of evaluating the data and periodic [2:36:59] reviews thank you thank [2:37:03] you um Mr [2:37:14] mohill good evening council members my [2:37:17] name is Mike mohill I'd like to First [2:37:19] acknowledge Mr Herbert Milano and Karen [2:37:22] qua for the research and the time they [2:37:24] spent on this issue I know one person is [2:37:27] a landlord and the other person is a [2:37:29] tenant great [2:37:31] team I'm neither [2:37:35] okay but what caught my eye was when the [2:37:37] mayor says we need more Outreach there's [2:37:40] people don't have any knowledge what's [2:37:41] going on in the city on these [2:37:44] issues survey one survey said they had [2:37:47] 600 people filled out the other one her [2:37:49] survey was 800 I think and you said wow [2:37:52] that's a lot of [2:37:53] people [2:37:55] really think about it in my last [2:37:59] Community newsletter I put an [2:38:01] announcement that keep our kids home on [2:38:03] August the [2:38:04] 25th and it went to about [2:38:07] 25,000 inboxes for people to read with [2:38:11] about 50% viewership [2:38:14] minimum now that's an [2:38:18] Outreach you saw on the TV thousands of [2:38:21] people were out there protesting keeping [2:38:24] their kids home and so [2:38:27] forth your uh Rock Haven sanitarium here [2:38:31] locally has put an ad in my newsletter [2:38:33] announcement I put it in no charge the [2:38:37] American Legion has put announcements in [2:38:39] my newsletter no [2:38:43] charge and fentel crisis [2:38:47] a woman contacted me about a meeting and [2:38:49] I put it in your Glendo Community [2:38:53] newsletter your Glenda Community [2:38:55] newsletter folks is free it cost the [2:38:59] residents of go and the city council [2:39:02] zero do it's a free [2:39:06] service why don't you take advantage of [2:39:10] it doesn't cost [2:39:13] anything we need to get input on these [2:39:16] different surveys when again when the [2:39:18] mayor says well we need more knowledge [2:39:19] of the [2:39:21] information well maybe if you gave it [2:39:23] out to more people they would respond to [2:39:25] your [2:39:26] surveys again look what happened last [2:39:29] week on the 25th of August when he had [2:39:31] thousands of people stay [2:39:34] home thank you very much oh by the way [2:39:38] MJ mohill gmail.com um is my email [2:39:41] address to sent and ask for yeah one [2:39:43] thing I I want to um caution you on is [2:39:46] that you should speak on the agenda item [2:39:48] and not give promotions for your [2:39:50] newsletter that's not what the agenda [2:39:52] item is [2:39:54] about okay do we have we have no callers [2:39:58] mayor please sit down your that's your [2:40:01] opinion um okay let's see let's hear [2:40:05] from you want colle I have a couple [2:40:08] questions um uh what are the most common [2:40:12] issues that we receive phone calls [2:40:15] concern [2:40:16] I actually have the numbers I'll put [2:40:17] them on screen [2:40:20] um [2:40:22] presentation well it depends on the year [2:40:25] so in 2019 when the program first [2:40:27] started MH most of our calls were about [2:40:30] the program what what is it what's going [2:40:32] to happen how is this going to impact my [2:40:34] property how is this going to impact my [2:40:36] rental um let's get there here we go [2:40:40] good so 2019 92% of those calls were [2:40:43] General general rental rights related [2:40:45] and and then towards the end ab1 1482 [2:40:47] passed so we had a couple of questions [2:40:49] about that 1% and we had some eviction [2:40:51] calls about evictions moving into 2020 [2:40:55] the pandemic hit and 85% of our calls [2:40:58] were just coid related so that's all we [2:41:00] were handling Co related and then here [2:41:02] and there ab-1482 evictions and then in [2:41:07] 2021 again still pandemic 77 77% of the [2:41:11] calls were coid related but we started [2:41:14] getting more a148 2 as you know pandemic [2:41:17] rules were starting to expire 2022 [2:41:19] finally when most of the rules expired [2:41:23] uh we still had a lot of calls related [2:41:24] to co about [2:41:26] 28% uh and then uh there was a big jump [2:41:29] in ab1 1482 obviously because none of [2:41:32] the co protections were there anymore so [2:41:34] tenants were looking for ab-1482 [2:41:36] protections landlord were asking how [2:41:38] much we can increase R uh there was a [2:41:40] little bit of a jump in eviction calls [2:41:43] and other types of calls most recently [2:41:45] ly and this is based on the 600 number [2:41:48] so a number from a couple weeks ago [2:41:50] we're receiving calls about general [2:41:52] rental rights program uh rent [2:41:54] increases banking relocation things like [2:41:57] that Co calls have almost disappeared [2:42:00] cuz all the protections are gone no [2:42:02] one's calling about that anymore a1482 [2:42:05] we still get some calls on but I think [2:42:07] people understand the ordinance now so [2:42:09] they don't they don't call us as much [2:42:11] about that 18% of calls have been [2:42:13] eviction related so we've seen a bump [2:42:15] that and then 34% in another category [2:42:19] the other category basically covers [2:42:21] things like you call complain about mold [2:42:23] security [2:42:25] deposits [2:42:26] um my landlord doesn't let me have a dog [2:42:30] so all kinds of other subjects but these [2:42:33] are the types of calls we've been [2:42:35] getting [2:42:37] U there you and what's the last line the [2:42:39] last line is the last line is just uh [2:42:41] total so basically we've had 29% of [2:42:44] total calls have been uh general rental [2:42:47] rights related 47% of calls have been Co [2:42:50] related 10% AB 1482 this is total ohal [2:42:53] you averaged you averaged I I got you [2:42:55] total from uh for that topic so [2:42:58] basically 47% of all calls we've [2:43:01] received have been Co related which is a [2:43:03] big chunk So Co had a big impact on the [2:43:05] program as it did the rest of the world [2:43:09] but but these numbers are are um the [2:43:12] program that we have right now in place [2:43:15] the Ral rights program right it's based [2:43:17] on our call log so originally call log [2:43:19] was just designed to for internal use [2:43:22] for staff to be able to track calls and [2:43:24] make sure that we returned calls if [2:43:27] somebody calls back and says I called a [2:43:28] week ago we can see that we responded to [2:43:31] them whatnot uh as time went on and as [2:43:34] more and more people wanted access to [2:43:36] the data we started collecting more [2:43:38] information just to be able to extract [2:43:41] something from it and I think this year [2:43:43] is where we have the most information [2:43:45] information previous years we weren't [2:43:47] collecting detailed information so [2:43:49] eviction says 18% and you're just seeing [2:43:52] evictions but we're also collecting [2:43:54] information on evictions that are [2:43:55] related to Major rehab evictions that [2:43:57] are related to um owner moveing and we [2:44:00] just started so we don't have a lot of [2:44:01] numbers on that but as the year [2:44:03] continues we will uh we actually our it [2:44:07] Guy created a new program uh to log [2:44:11] everything in we were using Excel before [2:44:13] and so we weren't able to collect a lot [2:44:15] of information and how often does the [2:44:17] city attorney's office get involved in [2:44:19] these phone calls and questions um I'd [2:44:22] say we go to Lucy maybe once a week Lucy [2:44:24] varigon the City attorney and then I go [2:44:26] to her once a week no I'm [2:44:29] kidding that's just a clarify our [2:44:32] understanding of things or if there's a [2:44:33] we get some complex situations sometimes [2:44:36] and we just want a professional attorney [2:44:38] opinion before we tell anyone anything [2:44:41] okay thank you that's um let me [2:44:44] see are the calls have the calls [2:44:46] lessened since uh I guess 2019 Les calls [2:44:50] so the number of calls these are the [2:44:52] number of calls again pandemic obviously [2:44:55] we had a lot of calls the calls haven't [2:44:58] exactly lessened I'd say the pandemic [2:45:00] was just uh more in for 2020 than we've [2:45:05] ever had but I'd say [2:45:08] we're um we're set to hit about 1,200 [2:45:12] we're at 800 right now so a couple of [2:45:15] months we should probably be at 1,200 if [2:45:18] not more and we're able and we're able [2:45:21] to handle all those calls we're you're [2:45:23] you seem to be yeah and I'm sorry these [2:45:25] aren't just calls they're emails as well [2:45:27] oh emails and okay thank you that's okay [2:45:31] any general comments on Direction on on [2:45:33] on the mediation on yeah um well let's [2:45:36] see uh let me but you know this there's [2:45:39] see seems to be with all of the [2:45:41] different um cities being mentioned [2:45:44] there's plethora of challenges that go [2:45:46] along with this more bureaucracy more [2:45:49] staff more [2:45:50] funding um landlords you know if it's [2:45:54] voluntary you know you get a you have an [2:45:56] issue if it's involuntary some landlords [2:45:59] won't want to come they don't want to [2:46:00] engage and um you know and I I [2:46:04] interesting it says the success depends [2:46:07] on the cooperation and good faith of [2:46:09] landlords and tenants and that's that [2:46:12] sometimes I think can be um you know uh [2:46:14] uh an issue um the landlords seem to [2:46:18] hold the power tenants may feel [2:46:21] intimidated and then of course you have [2:46:23] the fairness is compromised so um I have [2:46:26] my feeling is and I I'll just make this [2:46:29] very brief um I also like the um the [2:46:32] proposition The Proposal of increased [2:46:35] penalties except for the one about legal [2:46:37] support because that's just way too [2:46:40] expensive but increase penalties um so [2:46:43] that if a landlord is called on the car [2:46:45] carpet for doing so that's a pun but um [2:46:48] for you know not complying um or in have [2:46:53] inspections so that those folks that [2:46:55] that have problems in their in their [2:46:57] Apartments um uh those are taken care of [2:47:01] that we have um you know uh the ability [2:47:04] to conduct inspections and then if [2:47:07] nothing happens then impose penalties um [2:47:10] but uh I think staff is handling this [2:47:13] beautifully the rental rights program [2:47:15] you're providing assistance you're [2:47:17] providing counseling you're providing [2:47:19] legal um Aid and I I just think that [2:47:23] that's the way to go I know that Burbank [2:47:25] is strictly Outreach and education so [2:47:28] they're not very effective um the other [2:47:31] ones uh you know Santa Monica is just [2:47:33] like way out of way out of you know our [2:47:37] financial um category and it's just uh [2:47:41] spending a lot of money um so um I I [2:47:45] just feel like we really don't need a [2:47:47] Medi a mediation a commission a [2:47:50] committee you know you get all involved [2:47:52] in that bureaucracy and and uh then [2:47:54] we're in we get into more trouble so I I [2:47:57] would be uh against the mediation I [2:47:59] think i' go with staff's uh um [2:48:02] continuing this program I think it's [2:48:05] very effective I think you're doing a [2:48:06] great job I know whenever um I have get [2:48:09] an email from a resident with a question [2:48:12] with a problem I immediately [2:48:15] emailed staff and the problem is taken [2:48:18] care of almost immediately so um I think [2:48:21] that this is uh the best way for us to [2:48:23] handle it okay thank you counc [2:48:31] batra so um my understanding is from [2:48:34] from the last meeting that you are going [2:48:35] to go back to the [2:48:37] committee um with the items that we [2:48:39] discussed from last meeting right I [2:48:43] believe the plan was to come back with a [2:48:45] Redline version uh we were going to go [2:48:47] back to stakeholders um see what their [2:48:49] opinions are and then bring it back to [2:48:51] the committee I mean I'm sorry the [2:48:52] council okay cuz I I my understanding [2:48:55] from last meeting was that we had an [2:48:58] opportunity for there to be one meet and [2:49:00] for us to get a better sense of where [2:49:02] the committee stood because there was no [2:49:04] like there wasn't closing that Gap with [2:49:06] the committee members when I look at [2:49:08] this list it it kind of feels the same [2:49:10] where like the recommendations are kind [2:49:13] of all over the place where it's [2:49:15] recommending a hybrid and it's [2:49:16] recommending non-mandatory and the whole [2:49:19] nine yards so I would like to get a [2:49:21] little more clarity from from the [2:49:23] committee on that um I would note that [2:49:27] um I know you mentioned that we had a [2:49:29] program that didn't work for a couple of [2:49:31] months I I have an issue with any [2:49:34] program that operates for a couple of [2:49:36] months because that's not sufficient [2:49:37] time for the public to to learn about [2:49:41] the programs um availability so if [2:49:43] you're going to say you know we'll open [2:49:45] this up for six months and see if it's [2:49:47] working you know by the time like people [2:49:50] actually find out about it it's probably [2:49:51] more than six months and so um from the [2:49:54] GetGo I feel like that kind of a [2:49:57] shortlived um pilot is just setting up [2:50:01] the program to fail um I would like to [2:50:05] for us to see if we can explore some [2:50:07] options with with the county um for a [2:50:10] more for formal program I know that uh [2:50:14] while our staff has done an incredible [2:50:16] job in guiding uh residents um I know [2:50:19] that there's been so many occasions [2:50:21] where we provide the information and um [2:50:25] a lot of these times there's been people [2:50:27] with language barriers where I myself [2:50:30] feel like I'm just giving you know being [2:50:31] given the runaround because the services [2:50:33] are just not available for the um [2:50:37] renters um and so I I actually hate [2:50:39] giving that those phone numbers out [2:50:41] knowing that at their probably most [2:50:43] stressful time [2:50:45] I'm adding additional stress because [2:50:47] it's it's hope with possibly no no [2:50:50] resolution and support and that's [2:50:52] usually for renters right that um also [2:50:55] have an issue with getting resources to [2:50:57] begin with and so I would be interested [2:51:00] in something a little more formal um [2:51:03] that helps with that portion um not just [2:51:06] the education and the guidance that [2:51:09] we're providing now and then just a [2:51:11] better feedback from um from the [2:51:13] committee members and the stakeholders [2:51:18] ERS well I think uh one of the benefits [2:51:21] of what we did through the ad hoc [2:51:23] committee exercise was bringing [2:51:25] landlords and um residents tenants uh [2:51:29] together to be able to have these [2:51:31] discussions um I didn't watch all the [2:51:33] meetings I did watch um a couple of them [2:51:36] just parts of it because of time [2:51:38] allowances but um I Echo what was said [2:51:42] in terms of uh how they were run uh how [2:51:46] people interacted and I think that [2:51:48] there's something to be said about that [2:51:50] process that I think we need to [2:51:53] encourage further um I would like to see [2:51:58] uh the committee um whether it's the [2:52:01] current committee or different [2:52:03] iterations of it continue to meet um I [2:52:06] don't know if my colleagues have any [2:52:07] interest in in making it a more formal [2:52:10] committee but I I think that one of the [2:52:12] things that's come from it is as you've [2:52:14] mentioned that people have a place that [2:52:16] they can go to to petition to raise [2:52:19] issues to bring ideas forth and for [2:52:23] those to be flushed out and discussed um [2:52:25] hearing from all [2:52:28] sides I think that within this report uh [2:52:32] I would have liked to have seen some of [2:52:34] the more specifics like the percentages [2:52:36] that you gave was good in terms of [2:52:38] inquiries I would like to know like how [2:52:40] many of those were calls how many of [2:52:41] them were emails and you may have that [2:52:43] and you can provide that but [2:52:45] um there is something to be said for [2:52:47] what someone uh who spoke this evening [2:52:49] from the audience uh raised which is uh [2:52:53] that the information as to what people [2:52:55] are bringing up is the issues that we [2:52:58] should be addressing now there may be [2:52:59] some things that fall through the cracks [2:53:01] and hopefully with better advertising [2:53:03] people are aware that there is a [2:53:05] resource available to them that they can [2:53:06] get answers and they'll be able to um [2:53:10] contact uh whatever group agency City [2:53:14] official to get [2:53:16] answers in addition to that there has [2:53:18] been uh talk from at least one of the uh [2:53:22] committee members and something that [2:53:25] I've I've really liked I've I've talked [2:53:27] about before the idea of someone who is [2:53:29] an ombudsman type role someone who can [2:53:31] troubleshoot who can point people to the [2:53:33] right resources be they whether in our [2:53:36] city can point them to the right [2:53:38] sections of the law and uh direct [2:53:42] whether it's the landlord or the tenant [2:53:43] to where they can get um the best [2:53:46] information and looking at the costs of [2:53:49] what uh different committees do I think [2:53:52] that if you were to just pay one person [2:53:54] even if it was someone who could do it [2:53:56] part-time um even if they were an hourly [2:53:58] if it wasn't a fully loaded full-time [2:54:00] employee of the city at first to see how [2:54:02] it would work I think that we would reap [2:54:05] the benefits of it as well as the [2:54:07] residents and the business owners and uh [2:54:10] landlords and tenants so um those are my [2:54:13] general thoughts on it um I would like [2:54:17] us to see more advertising multilingual [2:54:20] advertising using all the um methods [2:54:23] that were already stated available to us [2:54:26] and also there is uh something I think [2:54:28] to be said to see if glendel can adopt [2:54:31] uh and modify um ab1 [2:54:34] 1482 uh with special features I think [2:54:37] that's important the more we can [2:54:38] simplify things I think the better it is [2:54:40] for all parties involved so those are my [2:54:43] general thought thank you thank you [2:54:45] thank you so um I'll start off with uh [2:54:48] you know thanking the landlord tenant [2:54:50] commission and I see there's one member [2:54:52] of the landlord tenant commission there [2:54:53] in the back te Marshon who I understand [2:54:56] was one of the most active and and uh [2:54:59] productive members of the commission so [2:55:02] um so thank you and thanks to all the [2:55:05] members of the commission um if they're [2:55:07] listening or not and to staff because [2:55:10] this has been this is complicated and um [2:55:14] you've done a great job I think in [2:55:15] summarizing the work that came out of [2:55:17] that so hats off to you um on this [2:55:21] particular topic um I'm also not in [2:55:25] favor of setting up a formal mediation [2:55:30] body um I think it it is kind of [2:55:33] unnecessary bureaucracy and I think it [2:55:35] could just lead to um uh overly lengthy [2:55:40] resolution times um when when issues [2:55:43] come forward I would much rather rather [2:55:44] see us uh and I'm and I'm glad to see [2:55:47] that Mr Milano had it on the sheet that [2:55:48] he handed out I think he's right um beef [2:55:52] up the um the hotline um maybe we need [2:55:57] um [2:55:59] uh maybe we need some some help there [2:56:02] and maybe we we we link it to this idea [2:56:05] of an ombudsman because that's another [2:56:07] idea that I really think is great so I [2:56:08] think the idea is like instead of having [2:56:11] you know this formal commission uh that [2:56:13] that kind of mediates disputes have um a [2:56:18] connection between the hotline and [2:56:21] somebody an ombudsman or maybe we have a [2:56:24] panel of ombudsmen that that can handle [2:56:27] cases depending on when they're [2:56:28] available but have them go and um and [2:56:32] make calls just an informal process but [2:56:35] um as Mr Milano explained to me in a [2:56:37] meeting yesterday um you know lots of [2:56:40] times they're just misunderstandings you [2:56:42] know the um and and um if you could just [2:56:46] talk to both sides you know you can if [2:56:49] you have the right person doing it you [2:56:50] could talk sense and resolve some of [2:56:52] these issues maybe about something [2:56:53] that's needs to be repaired or what [2:56:56] whatever it might be right so I I I [2:56:59] would like to see something like that [2:57:01] the other thing I would like to see us [2:57:02] do is um consider funding some more [2:57:08] dedicated legal services for both [2:57:10] tenants and landlords because we know [2:57:12] you know Neighborhood Legal Services is [2:57:14] backed up housing rights Center is [2:57:15] backed up Armenian Bar Association I [2:57:18] don't know as much about how their you [2:57:20] know what their workload looks like but [2:57:22] especially if you're going to be doing [2:57:23] all this marketing and people are going [2:57:25] to learn more about the program they're [2:57:26] going to learn more about the hotline [2:57:28] and they're going to start calling in we [2:57:29] want to be able to send them somewhere [2:57:31] you know we've got an if we have like an [2:57:34] ombudsman that's great but I think that [2:57:37] udman also needs um to be able to refer [2:57:41] something to you know somebody who can [2:57:43] provide more serious legal advice so [2:57:45] I've heard of cities doing this I forget [2:57:47] the city but they've basically financed [2:57:50] you know like a like a dedicated person [2:57:52] or a certain number of hours from one of [2:57:54] these legal service organizations to be [2:57:57] like even sitting at a city facility [2:58:00] like available to come in and and get [2:58:03] those services so that we can make sure [2:58:05] that anybody that needs you know free or [2:58:08] lowcost legal service gets it right so [2:58:12] that's that's kind of where where I'd [2:58:14] like to see us end up um and before I [2:58:17] conclude I I I do want to go back um [2:58:19] because we've probably all been getting [2:58:21] these emails but I know I've gotten a [2:58:22] bunch of emails about you know why is [2:58:25] Council doing this why is Council doing [2:58:27] that and I and or why is Staff [2:58:29] recommending XYZ and I I just kind of [2:58:31] want to clear it um staff and is not [2:58:35] recommending a vacancy tax and Council [2:58:39] does not seem as far as I can tell [2:58:41] interested in pursuing a vacancy tax [2:58:44] staff is not recommending a rent [2:58:46] registry and although yes I brought it [2:58:48] up years ago um but at the moment I mean [2:58:52] I don't think there's anybody here on [2:58:53] this Das that's recommending a rent [2:58:55] registry uh and I've also heard people [2:58:57] say well we don't need more rent control [2:58:58] I don't think anybody here is talking [2:59:00] about more rent control what we're [2:59:02] talking about is streamlining the [2:59:04] program that we have in light of what [2:59:06] we've learned over the years and in [2:59:08] light of ab1 [2:59:09] 1482 which has its own provisions and we [2:59:12] when we should do a better job of [2:59:14] um you know dovetailing our rental [2:59:17] rights program with ab-1482 and just [2:59:19] simplifying things as um council member [2:59:21] kasak I think said and I heard it [2:59:23] elsewhere just simplify simplify [2:59:25] simplify so um you know especially on [2:59:29] that to you know um the formula that we [2:59:32] have for relocation assistance if [2:59:33] somebody raises rent more than 7% you [2:59:36] know really simplify that maybe just a [2:59:38] flat amount irregardless of the type of [2:59:41] property the income of the person the [2:59:43] length of the just just keep it really [2:59:45] simple so that people understand what [2:59:48] this program is about that's really what [2:59:51] what we want to do and and uh I just [2:59:53] want to kind of make sure people [2:59:55] understand that that's our intent um so [2:59:58] that's basically what I have to say I [3:00:01] actually like you know based on your [3:00:03] comments um and council member kakin [3:00:08] um i' I felt like the uh the city staff [3:00:12] already kind of Tak takes that role on [3:00:15] of both guiding and providing resources [3:00:19] so if if I'm misunderstanding what the [3:00:22] role of that additional person would be [3:00:24] if you if you may explain it to so I [3:00:26] think that there are issues that are [3:00:28] sometimes more complicated outside the [3:00:30] scope of what the housing staff alone [3:00:32] can do you'll have um landlords who you [3:00:36] know are longtime landlords have had a [3:00:38] property for a while all of a sudden [3:00:41] they have to um do something that uh [3:00:45] state law mandates or something that the [3:00:48] city requires or just provide something [3:00:50] for a tenant they don't know where to go [3:00:53] right they don't know which department [3:00:55] in the city to apply to I'm not a [3:00:57] landlord but I can tell you uh when we [3:00:59] had to replace our dishwasher I learned [3:01:02] that in the city of Glendale if you want [3:01:03] to replace a dishwasher you need a [3:01:05] permit and there's a whole permit [3:01:07] process that requires you to go online [3:01:09] and if you're not computer savvy you're [3:01:11] an older senior person or perhaps [3:01:14] challenged in the tech world you know [3:01:16] good luck uh navigating It For the First [3:01:18] Time The Answer Ombudsman you can have a [3:01:21] tenant as uh I've had who has a special [3:01:24] needs uh child um all of a sudden they [3:01:28] are uh falling behind on either rent or [3:01:31] they're in between jobs or something [3:01:33] happens in regards to a child whose [3:01:35] special needs they may not need a tenant [3:01:38] landlord mediation or questions that the [3:01:40] housing staff can provide but an nsman [3:01:42] can connect them to different different [3:01:43] Social Service organizations and [3:01:46] nonprofits that can help them uh make it [3:01:49] from point A to point B from one month [3:01:51] to the next with minimal impact on on [3:01:53] their lives and stress answer is [3:01:55] Ombudsman so I think that when we say an [3:01:58] ombudsman it's I think of it a little [3:02:00] bit like the I've always said the James [3:02:01] Garner character in that movie The Great [3:02:03] Escape the guy who could get you [3:02:05] anything the guy who could get you [3:02:07] chocolate or could get you a whiskey in [3:02:09] a in a World War II p camp someone who [3:02:11] knows where to go to get the answers um [3:02:15] because a lot of times when you're [3:02:17] stressed as you stated and you're [3:02:19] looking for answers um you're confused [3:02:21] as to where to go but someone who's [3:02:23] trained or understands the city and the [3:02:25] different organizations can help point [3:02:27] you in the right direction yeah and I [3:02:29] would I would just like to add to that [3:02:31] that you know this idea of an ombudsman [3:02:33] it is similar to what staff is doing [3:02:35] right now but I think that [3:02:37] um I think I think we need more and [3:02:41] especially if we're going to be [3:02:42] promoting this program we're going to be [3:02:43] getting more people calling into the [3:02:45] hotline I don't think we're going to [3:02:46] have the resources to do it you know I [3:02:48] also know it's it's a special skill and [3:02:51] not taking you know wanting to take away [3:02:54] from from seon and his group but it's a [3:02:56] special skill I had a a situation and uh [3:02:59] teal in the back knows all about it [3:03:01] because she helped me out with it but [3:03:03] somebody that came to my coffees a [3:03:04] couple times with a problem with rats in [3:03:07] her unit and she had to move out and she [3:03:10] was in a hotel and she you know or she [3:03:12] was at whatever she was anyway and I [3:03:14] know she called in and um she did get [3:03:17] some help but I think she was referred [3:03:19] to you know you know I don't know LA [3:03:22] County sanitation or she was referred [3:03:25] here and there but her English was not [3:03:27] good she didn't have the wherewithal to [3:03:29] figure this out she really needs [3:03:30] somebody who can do more than what staff [3:03:32] can do can really hold her hand and take [3:03:35] office yeah but they're not going to do [3:03:36] that they don't have the resources to [3:03:38] really hold somebody's hand through all [3:03:41] the phone calls that have to be made all [3:03:42] the followup that has to be made so I I [3:03:44] do think having somebody from the [3:03:46] outside just enhances that service and I [3:03:49] don't think it's that expensive to do so [3:03:52] that's I think that's what that's at [3:03:54] least what's on my mind so I would well [3:03:56] my question is what kind of training [3:03:58] would they need what do we have to train [3:04:00] them or do they have to learn our yeah [3:04:02] there's I mean [3:04:03] what's probably yeah well isn't that [3:04:07] what kind of what Lucy does I mean [3:04:09] she staff those that you're working with [3:04:12] so staff does their best to connect any [3:04:15] caller to the resources they need and if [3:04:17] it's within the city I think we do a [3:04:18] pretty good job of it if it's outside of [3:04:20] the city we might refer to the [3:04:22] organization we're not going to go hunt [3:04:24] down an individual that they need to [3:04:25] speak to we'll refer them to the or [3:04:27] organization but if it needs to be that [3:04:29] detailed where you're holding the hand [3:04:31] walking them to that agency making sure [3:04:33] they get the need the help they need I I [3:04:35] we don't do that at the moment but we do [3:04:38] the best within the city yeah that's [3:04:40] good [3:04:41] idea say something more yeah uh so I [3:04:44] would be open to that um I would also [3:04:48] like to see kind of the structure we [3:04:51] could work with the city attorney's [3:04:53] office uh on this where there is a [3:04:57] specific [3:04:58] designated attorney um that the public [3:05:01] knows about it's not that they're [3:05:03] calling you and then you're internally [3:05:05] or we're rerouting that um I think [3:05:08] looking at the city attorney's office [3:05:10] and like how we've kind of built up [3:05:12] capacity over the years uh there might [3:05:14] be room for that as well in there yeah [3:05:16] if I could I could address that I think [3:05:18] so one of the challenges uh with our [3:05:21] office is we we cannot provide legal [3:05:23] advice to third parties we we can we [3:05:25] obviously provide um interpret you know [3:05:28] we will interpret our own code for [3:05:30] public when when there's a dispute for [3:05:32] example um we also obviously were [3:05:35] involved in the enforcement of the law [3:05:36] but a lot of these disputes are a a [3:05:38] private dispute between a landlord and [3:05:40] tenant so we cannot be we can't advise [3:05:42] them on landlord tenant law um and and [3:05:45] that's really not the even the goal of [3:05:46] the rental rights program is to provide [3:05:48] the resources explain how our rental [3:05:50] rights program works to the public how [3:05:52] the what the interaction is with 1482 [3:05:54] because there is so much interaction but [3:05:56] at the end of the day we we always have [3:05:58] to advise them to to seek another [3:06:00] resource if they still have questions so [3:06:02] that's sort of the challenge with um I [3:06:04] mean we certainly work with the staff if [3:06:06] there's if there's a desire to have this [3:06:07] un buds un buds person to kind of work [3:06:10] with the staff on figure out how [3:06:11] mechanically it works but our our role [3:06:13] has to be limited we are limited by the [3:06:15] charter to not providing advice to to [3:06:17] members of the public or providing them [3:06:18] legal assistance on private disputes [3:06:21] which in large regard that's what [3:06:23] landlord tenant is right it's it's a [3:06:25] dispute between two parties in in a [3:06:27] business transaction I I I I would say [3:06:29] that I'm not looking for the the private [3:06:32] disputes um I think if more folks in our [3:06:36] community knew that they could turn to [3:06:38] the city to to get clarification on the [3:06:41] law and that the city attorney's office [3:06:43] is available I want them to know that [3:06:45] that that is actually available and that [3:06:47] is part of the role right absolutely [3:06:50] okay okay um do you have enough [3:06:55] Direction I think we have enough [3:06:57] Direction okay just I think the staff [3:07:00] needs the approval of the the marketing [3:07:02] strategy that's a motion approval of the [3:07:04] marketing strategy so oh okay I'll [3:07:08] second okay so we'll have a roll call on [3:07:10] that thank you council members do other [3:07:14] yes Divine yes kakan yes Naran mayor [3:07:19] botman yes thank you what's next please [3:07:22] next is oral Communications discussion [3:07:25] is limited to items not a part of this [3:07:26] agenda each speaker is allowed five [3:07:29] minutes Council May question or respond [3:07:31] to the speaker but there will be no [3:07:33] debate or decision the city manager May [3:07:35] refer the matter to the appropriate [3:07:37] department for investigation and report [3:07:41] we have uh five speak speaker cards for [3:07:44] oral communication okay anybody on the [3:07:48] phones [3:07:52] okay okay and I'm going to start and [3:07:55] then I'm going to run to the bathroom [3:07:57] and [3:07:58] hopefully something drastic won't happen [3:08:01] okay I tried to stop ARX an [3:08:05] onion you are first for oral [3:08:12] Communications [3:08:20] hello everyone um I just wanted to hit a [3:08:23] couple points um I submitted I took my [3:08:26] time over the weekend it was actually [3:08:28] pretty fun working on the maps um it was [3:08:31] almost like a puzzle uh especially with [3:08:33] the colors and all that stuff so I came [3:08:36] up with map 1125 I think it was uploaded [3:08:39] yesterday or something um and I just [3:08:41] wanted to it was pretty I mean I didn't [3:08:44] see any Maps out there currently that [3:08:46] included like a separate region um for [3:08:50] well I saw a couple that included a [3:08:52] separate region for Central Glendale um [3:08:55] I think they have they're going to be [3:08:56] growing obviously over time and then [3:08:58] they have their they're going to have [3:09:00] their own very unique needs um in the [3:09:03] downtown area um and then yeah so that [3:09:06] and then um I was walking on AR Avenue [3:09:10] and I think there might be a project [3:09:12] about this I was looking it up on the [3:09:14] website but definitely those like tables [3:09:17] and chairs do not seem comfortable and [3:09:19] then my friend was telling me that [3:09:21] apparently they get chained up at night [3:09:24] which is so unsightly and not really [3:09:27] like the vibe for downtown glendel but [3:09:30] I'm assuming that's going to be included [3:09:31] in the I think it's called activate art [3:09:34] I don't know if that's still happening [3:09:36] but um and then my third point was just [3:09:39] about uh apparently there's a dog park [3:09:41] being proposed for for brand park I got [3:09:44] an email from The Tea House at that [3:09:47] they're not interested in that and I [3:09:50] completely agree I think that's not is [3:09:53] that is that happening is that [3:09:56] stud huh no I don't want to speak on [3:09:59] something that is has already been [3:10:01] addressed in previous meetings but [3:10:04] anyways yeah I don't think a dog park [3:10:06] belongs in brand Park it's just also [3:10:09] like not the vibe of that area but [3:10:11] anyway those are my thoughts for today [3:10:13] thank [3:10:14] you thank you uh vah [3:10:34] Moran hello council members I was here [3:10:37] in this room at the last council meeting [3:10:40] because I had gone through all the [3:10:41] possible departments I could regarding [3:10:44] some false accusations in court filed by [3:10:47] the city attorney's office one of those [3:10:49] departments even being the police [3:10:51] department where I made a police report [3:10:53] thinking I had rights because it does [3:10:55] involve a crime police closed it without [3:10:58] ever reaching out and ignored the entire [3:11:00] probably half an hour report I made and [3:11:02] all the documents I submitted so my only [3:11:05] other option was to come here and bring [3:11:07] it to your attention for it to be looked [3:11:09] into [3:11:11] respectfully I don't think I did a good [3:11:13] enough job last time because it never [3:11:16] was since August 8th so I'm here to try [3:11:19] again you have an employee named mahik [3:11:22] safarian who decided to call the police [3:11:25] making false accusations against me when [3:11:27] I came to the city towards the end of [3:11:29] 2022 about a fraudulent lease issue [3:11:32] since 2005 for the property I live on he [3:11:36] then somehow convinced the city [3:11:37] attorney's office with those same [3:11:39] accusations into filing a restraining [3:11:42] order on on his behalf for free i' [3:11:44] assume one which was denied for lack of [3:11:47] evidence the restraining order does [3:11:49] actually mention how mahik is possibly [3:11:52] applying for it behalf of other [3:11:54] employees as well but none are mentioned [3:11:57] I would have absolutely no problem and I [3:11:59] really do mean this no problem with his [3:12:02] poor lies even his restraining order [3:12:05] that was denied resulting in my favor if [3:12:07] it didn't lead to the third lawsuit for [3:12:10] my family one day after that is not the [3:12:12] first time law I [3:12:14] was that's not the first time I was [3:12:16] served with a lawsuit because of a city [3:12:18] employee I'm not making any specific [3:12:21] accusations here but with respectfully [3:12:23] asking the city to once again look into [3:12:27] this matter because it is all being used [3:12:29] against me in courts it doesn't matter [3:12:31] if I don't have it doesn't matter if I [3:12:33] have a lawyer or not I ask the words [3:12:35] filed in court by the city attorney's [3:12:37] office to be discussed was but was [3:12:40] turned away there's no shame in the [3:12:42] applying for something and having it the [3:12:44] night there's no resolution for me on [3:12:46] his lies so I made a police report about [3:12:49] a possible felony charge under the [3:12:51] penalty of perjury and how that [3:12:53] unfortunately has to do with the third [3:12:55] lawsuit I was served in 8 months I was [3:12:57] turned away again last time I said 9 [3:13:00] months but I was wrong it's actually [3:13:02] three lawsuits I've been served in 8 [3:13:04] months and 9 days that is actually [3:13:06] prohibited prohibited according to [3:13:08] chapter 9 of the municipal code I [3:13:11] wouldn't be here today if the city and [3:13:13] the appropriate departments did their [3:13:15] jobs and this is coming from a former [3:13:17] employee of almost 7 years please look [3:13:20] into this [3:13:22] matter thank [3:13:25] you um obviously I don't know anything [3:13:28] about this issue but um I will ask for a [3:13:32] offline uh briefing so I can learn more [3:13:35] about it all right thank Youk you have a [3:13:37] great [3:13:40] night okay um [3:13:51] Milano mayor brodman members of the city [3:13:54] council my name is Herbert [3:13:56] Milano I want to bring up some comments [3:13:58] that I brought in the past uh but I'll [3:14:00] start it with a um with a comment that [3:14:04] is very common at least in the circles [3:14:06] that I'm in and is that people tend to [3:14:09] see the world from the steeple of their [3:14:11] Village Church [3:14:14] and when I look at the problems that I'm [3:14:16] generally facing Glendale or the issues [3:14:18] that have come aware of I see it from [3:14:21] the point of view of a systems analyst [3:14:23] and my Decades of work in dealing with [3:14:27] providing information to organizations [3:14:30] organizations that often times were over [3:14:32] a billion dollars a [3:14:34] year and for many years I have been [3:14:37] promoting the idea that the city should [3:14:40] collect information analyze the [3:14:42] information [3:14:43] create strategic plans and work towards [3:14:45] a strategic [3:14:46] plan and today was in some of the issues [3:14:49] that we had earlier it's precisely the [3:14:52] type of issues that would be much easier [3:14:54] to solve if you had the data analyz [3:14:59] collected and [3:15:01] evaluated with a continual recurrence of [3:15:04] an evaluation that takes place on an [3:15:06] annual [3:15:08] basis every time you get a software [3:15:10] update what you're really getting is the [3:15:13] series of problems that have been [3:15:14] corrected through [3:15:17] experience and you know at the local [3:15:20] level county level state level often [3:15:22] times ordinances are passed and then [3:15:25] they just left to basically have an [3:15:28] impact for a very long time until the [3:15:30] problems get to be so severe that you [3:15:32] begin to have the protest and the people [3:15:34] complaining and you get the impact of [3:15:36] that but if the ordinances and the laws [3:15:40] that are being considered are evaluated [3:15:42] and the data collected and updated and [3:15:45] adjusted to meet what the data is [3:15:47] telling you I would imagine that we [3:15:50] would have a much easier time with [3:15:52] running a city and living in a city the [3:15:55] data that I usually brought back in the [3:15:56] past that is really really simple has to [3:15:59] do with road [3:16:01] conditions a road on average in the [3:16:04] United [3:16:06] States has about a 20-year [3:16:09] life so if you take the 360 miles of [3:16:12] roadway of London divided by 20 you have [3:16:15] already an idea of how much you should [3:16:16] be re reconstructing on a yearly basis [3:16:20] simple and then you count basically how [3:16:22] many miles of roads were actually [3:16:24] reconstructed every [3:16:27] year the other issues that I find that [3:16:30] need data collection if the city were to [3:16:33] collect it in a systematic way and if [3:16:35] the city council were to have some type [3:16:38] of retreat where you consider where is [3:16:40] it that we're going where are we now [3:16:43] what did we accomplish allows you to [3:16:45] gauge the efficacy of the city manager [3:16:48] or the efficacy of the City attorney the [3:16:50] efficacy of the rest of the commissions [3:16:52] that you have before you it's an appeal [3:16:55] for this that I think that the problems [3:16:58] that we generally face are solvable [3:17:00] they're not that [3:17:02] insurmountable especially when we have [3:17:04] the data that is telling us not [3:17:07] anecdotes not the Impressions not the [3:17:10] hearsay not the rumors [3:17:12] because we as humans are very faulty in [3:17:16] regard to the way we think about issues [3:17:18] if we put somebody in a committee and [3:17:21] all they come to you are The Impressions [3:17:23] that they have from Friends the things [3:17:25] that they can remember we have a [3:17:27] significant list of biases that prevent [3:17:31] us from thinking [3:17:32] clearly and the one thing we can depend [3:17:35] on is the data if I tell someone you [3:17:38] know that the data tells us that if you [3:17:40] smoke on a regular basis or two packs a [3:17:43] day your chances of dying is X by the [3:17:45] age of 60 but if he tells me well my [3:17:49] grandmother lived into 102 and she was [3:17:52] this two pack smoker and gives you an [3:17:55] anecdote and that's what carries the day [3:17:58] an anecdote carries a significant amount [3:18:00] of weight when it comes to all kinds of [3:18:03] decision making but then we have to rely [3:18:05] on the data to basically set us straight [3:18:08] and that's what I'm asking the city [3:18:09] council to do collect the dat [3:18:12] analyze it set policy on it because when [3:18:16] people come to you with their [3:18:17] Impressions and their feelings and their [3:18:19] emotions and what they can recall and [3:18:21] they're here say you may wind up [3:18:24] creating bad policy and that's really [3:18:27] really bad for all of us I would [3:18:29] appreciate that thanks thank you Mike [3:18:36] barsov good evening council members uh [3:18:38] I'm going to be talking uh talking on [3:18:40] the topic of housing um I believe I [3:18:42] emailed all of you about a few weeks ago [3:18:44] on this issue but I'm just here to talk [3:18:46] about it in person today some of these [3:18:48] policies do need environmental review [3:18:50] some of them don't some have been [3:18:52] instituted by cities like San Diego or [3:18:55] uh some cities in the east coast um but [3:18:59] this is just a rundown of our Arena [3:19:01] goals uh we have still thousands more [3:19:04] housing units to accomplish uh to [3:19:06] complete by the end of the decade and at [3:19:09] current Pace we're kind of decent but [3:19:11] we're not very and we could also make [3:19:13] extra money uh with a new housing policy [3:19:16] so these are just some policy positions [3:19:18] that you could advocate for to City [3:19:19] staff or just research so the first one [3:19:21] is reducing or Banning parking minimums [3:19:24] the second one is increasing the far [3:19:25] which is floor area ratio of [3:19:27] construction allow our greater lot size [3:19:29] usage allow greater discretionary [3:19:31] density bonus units reone glendle to [3:19:34] allow to Transit oriented development [3:19:36] specifically along Transit corridors of [3:19:38] bus lines with a frequency of 50 minutes [3:19:39] or better and around train stations [3:19:42] upzone Glen corridors and regions to [3:19:44] r1250 and [3:19:45] r2250 which is medium to high density [3:19:48] and just high density and allow more [3:19:50] mixed huse development on residential [3:19:52] only zones and allow residential zones [3:19:54] and Commercial only zones so essentially [3:19:56] when cities Implement these policies you [3:19:58] increase social cohesion walkability all [3:20:00] that good stuff that we need to reduce [3:20:01] our vehicle miles traveled to reduce our [3:20:03] emissions but we also increase the [3:20:05] housing stock we cool the housing market [3:20:07] we also create good money for the city [3:20:09] uh there's a lot of research on this uh [3:20:11] when we build trans oriented development [3:20:12] when we build mixed use development when [3:20:14] we build high with density more people [3:20:16] come into the city they provide [3:20:18] businesses provide more uh services and [3:20:21] vice versa sales tax goes up more people [3:20:23] spending money in the city is just good [3:20:25] for everyone and so if you want to get [3:20:26] ahead of our Arena goals and even [3:20:28] surpass them to be known as a city that [3:20:31] pass its housing goals with affordable [3:20:33] housing especially we could achieve that [3:20:36] in the city of glendle cuz we're already [3:20:37] kind of walkable I don't own a car I [3:20:40] take the bus usually I wish I could buy [3:20:42] every I don't know how to bike yet but [3:20:43] when we build more housing on corridors [3:20:46] we promote things like walkability and [3:20:49] having more Transit oriented development [3:20:51] and having more businesses be on the [3:20:53] first floor so people can see their [3:20:55] businesses and walk into the businesses [3:20:56] rather than zooming past them 50 mil per [3:20:58] hour so those are just some options on [3:21:01] how we can solve the housing crisis that [3:21:02] we currently have and I'll forward this [3:21:04] email to you guys again so you have like [3:21:05] the list of policies thank you thank you [3:21:08] and and by the way the email you sent I [3:21:11] did share with M with Mr Calbert and I [3:21:14] did respond to you right yes you and [3:21:17] Paul Divine did thank you okay but I [3:21:19] mean the point is that we are thinking [3:21:20] about all of these [3:21:22] things those things are already in the [3:21:25] works in the works and Mike you and I [3:21:27] are going to learn how to ride a bike [3:21:28] together thank you hopefully I see a [3:21:31] tandem bike in your future we're doing [3:21:33] this thank you Mr Cal for [3:21:36] Council okay uh Linda [3:21:40] new [3:21:47] mayor and council members thank you I'm [3:21:50] here today just to remind you that a lot [3:21:53] of the work that you are doing is just [3:21:58] um tacking around the edges of a problem [3:22:02] and the problem that we have in Glendale [3:22:05] among the residents is that rents are [3:22:07] too high and that people believe and [3:22:11] that it's their right to um treat [3:22:14] tenants like little um little toys or [3:22:19] dots to be moved around in other words [3:22:22] if you look at the grace the grace and [3:22:24] management company that is in charge of [3:22:27] the onx you will see that they have [3:22:30] raised the rents a lot this year um only [3:22:35] up to the amount of course that they [3:22:37] were legally um able to do that but they [3:22:40] are forcing those tenants in the onx to [3:22:43] move out just like Mom and Pops in [3:22:47] Glendale are forcing people to move out [3:22:50] it's people want to stay in Glendale [3:22:53] they want to keep their home and they [3:22:56] can't [3:22:58] so that's an ongoing [3:23:01] problem [3:23:03] um here uh I do I wanted to say thank [3:23:07] you very much for working um and [3:23:10] considering the um ad hoc um tenant [3:23:13] landord committee the idea of an udman [3:23:15] is a good one I think um we need a [3:23:18] community leas on who uh somebody who [3:23:22] can have boots on the ground and really [3:23:26] get out and um be one with the people [3:23:30] and and help people I know that because [3:23:33] those are some of the things that I do [3:23:35] in the Glendale tenis Union I know we we [3:23:38] spend hundreds of Y hours working with [3:23:40] people [3:23:42] you know um getting um every imagin [3:23:46] imaginary thing you can think of that a [3:23:49] tenant has to go through when they are [3:23:51] being forced to move or when they want [3:23:53] to fight the move they do call the city [3:23:56] sometimes sometimes they don't sometimes [3:23:58] they just call us but they call the city [3:24:00] and a and and a phone call isn't going [3:24:03] to get them where they need to be so [3:24:05] they need more than that we know that [3:24:07] that's why we end up spending hundreds [3:24:09] of hours working with them um one idea [3:24:13] that I that Mr Milano had that I [3:24:16] appreciate and is that he said you know [3:24:20] um get the facts whatever but um I say [3:24:24] on top of that is go to the city um [3:24:27] agencies who are dealing with those [3:24:29] people who are having hardships and meet [3:24:32] with them regularly or have them report [3:24:34] to you regularly when I call the [3:24:36] Armenian Relief Society they tell me the [3:24:39] same thing I'm telling them r are too [3:24:42] high our people are struggling it's [3:24:44] crazy so this isn't new this is and you [3:24:48] are not new this is not new to Glendale [3:24:51] every Community around the US is dealing [3:24:53] with this so I this is going to stay on [3:24:58] the burner you're going to keep thinking [3:25:00] about it but hopefully you know we'll be [3:25:03] able to make some [3:25:04] progress these little steps we're taking [3:25:07] are important but they're not the whole [3:25:10] answer thank you thank you and we have [3:25:13] somebody on the [3:25:14] phone yes we have one [3:25:18] caller I didn't get [3:25:23] okay did you put I didn't get one not [3:25:26] for oral communication I didn't get [3:25:32] one yeah take the phone [3:25:35] yeah our one caller is [3:25:38] nures uh tatin Sayan n say you're on air [3:25:42] you have uh five minutes go [3:25:46] ahead hi everyone my name is merus [3:25:50] penan and I was calling I was very [3:25:52] concerned about um the coyotes there's a [3:25:55] lot of like [3:25:56] coyotes in and around the kenet Village [3:25:59] area and then also I've noticed they're [3:26:01] coming down almost all the way to Glenn [3:26:03] Glen Oak like between Glenwood and GL [3:26:07] and um you know last night I was like [3:26:09] walking someone to their car and it was [3:26:12] literally like right there and then a [3:26:13] couple of times this month and then [3:26:16] three or four times while walking at [3:26:19] night so it's um it's pretty concerning [3:26:21] and I don't understand like what the [3:26:23] issue is I've always seen coyotes but [3:26:24] I've never seen them imp pass and all [3:26:27] the way down to like almost where glenox [3:26:30] is like by gleno and Western like almost [3:26:32] all the way down to like that [3:26:37] area and also in the Island area like by [3:26:40] between Glen uh [3:26:42] W and alen and gleno and [3:26:48] alen yeah okay yeah um I think we're all [3:26:53] seeing a [3:26:55] sharp uptick in in [3:27:00] coyotes um it's a bigger question what [3:27:03] we can do about it but that chase one [3:27:06] yesterday at night Road runers feed them [3:27:08] don't feed them anvils yeah [3:27:11] okay um Mr [3:27:25] mohill good evening council members my [3:27:27] name is Mike [3:27:29] mohill mayor Dan bran at the June 6 2023 [3:27:34] council meeting you charged you changed [3:27:37] a three minute portion of oral [3:27:38] communication on purpose back to to the [3:27:41] end of council business so you don't [3:27:44] have to hear early in the evening your [3:27:46] Council [3:27:47] critics as a result throughout the city [3:27:51] you are nicknamed the dictator of [3:27:54] Glendale in the old days the liberal [3:27:56] Democratic party cherish freedom of [3:27:59] speech but today you and your so-called [3:28:02] Progressive liberal Democrats throughout [3:28:05] the nation do not cherish freedom of [3:28:08] speech you moved to gleno about 7 years [3:28:11] ago and you are turning glendel upside [3:28:14] down with your woke [3:28:17] agenda you are polarizing the [3:28:20] city is it true mayor Dan bman that you [3:28:25] have two biological Sons today are [3:28:29] transgender [3:28:31] women is it [3:28:33] true that your former wife from China [3:28:37] became a transgender [3:28:39] man wow mayor Dan brotman you have been [3:28:43] all over social media and any criticism [3:28:47] you receive your three minions Mike [3:28:50] Allen Bert culer and car sgio Sergio who [3:28:56] has transgender children [3:28:59] herself are there to defend your woke [3:29:03] ideas is it true Mar Brockman that you [3:29:06] are in communication with queer nation [3:29:09] and other so-called Progressive liberal [3:29:13] organizations do not put in the same [3:29:16] basket and assume that all gays and [3:29:18] lesbian support the transgender drag [3:29:21] queen [3:29:23] agenda mayor brotman for the record are [3:29:28] you proud that the transgender drag [3:29:30] queen have hijacked the gay and lesbian [3:29:33] movement setting it back 100 [3:29:37] years are you [3:29:39] proud mared Dan Brockman do you support [3:29:43] transgender women competing in with [3:29:46] biological women's in bi excuse me and [3:29:51] sports mayor Brockman is it true you [3:29:54] meet with the Glendo School Board [3:29:57] officials at least once or twice a month [3:30:00] to discuss the transgender drag queen [3:30:04] agenda mayor Dan bman do you and your [3:30:07] so-called Progressive liberal Democrat [3:30:09] support the following ass family and [3:30:11] state bills that want to reduce parental [3:30:16] rights state senator Anthony portino [3:30:19] Senate Bill 596 silencing parental Free [3:30:25] Speech assembly Bill 95 cender [3:30:29] 957 gender affirmation in child custody [3:30:35] disputes assembly Bill [3:30:38] 1078 State control over local school [3:30:43] boards assembly Bill five Training [3:30:46] teachers to profile non [3:30:50] lgbtq plus affirming [3:30:54] parents the so-called Progressive [3:30:56] liberal Democrat State Assembly woman La [3:30:59] Freeman and state and state senator [3:31:02] Anthony [3:31:03] portino both support the transgender [3:31:06] drag queen [3:31:08] agendas council members do you support [3:31:11] transgender activist mayor Dan Brockman [3:31:14] and his [3:31:16] agenda it is clear the left hates the [3:31:21] right more than they love America thank [3:31:26] you you okay we have another card Alan [3:31:36] Durham mayor Brockman members of the [3:31:39] council I had not planned to speak [3:31:42] um during oral Communications but uh I [3:31:47] had to say you know we all know what's [3:31:51] going on with the Glend Del school board [3:31:53] and the Unified School District and all [3:31:56] the [3:31:58] political activism that's been stirred [3:32:01] up and the emotions that have been [3:32:03] stirred up but I really don't like you [3:32:06] know this is the city council that's the [3:32:09] school board I really don't like to [3:32:14] see the people the activist who are [3:32:20] protesting the school board's actions [3:32:22] and decisions I hate to see that creep [3:32:25] into city council city council meeting [3:32:28] City Council Members I mean I may be [3:32:31] wrong it just doesn't seem appropriate [3:32:32] to me it's two different bodies and I [3:32:35] don't really care what the views of an [3:32:38] individual council member are [3:32:41] and to me it's just you know it's not [3:32:45] relevant to me what I look for is their [3:32:48] judgment and their decision-making [3:32:50] ability so this is just my reaction to [3:32:54] what was said before thank you thank you [3:32:58] okay so next is new business yes new [3:33:02] business and I believe that we do [3:33:05] have [3:33:06] two one one yes so I move that uh the [3:33:11] City attorney being and hereby is [3:33:13] authorized to resolve the lawsuit [3:33:15] entitled Helen sedi versus city of [3:33:18] Glendale Los Angeles Superior Court case [3:33:20] number 20 STC V [3:33:24] 34372 in exchange for a full release of [3:33:26] all claims in the amount of [3:33:28] $75,000 the settlement is not an [3:33:31] admission of any liability whatsoever [3:33:33] for any wrongdoing with respect to the [3:33:35] plane if by defendant or by any person [3:33:37] or department but is the com compromise [3:33:39] of a dis Beed [3:33:42] claim a second second can roll call [3:33:46] please council members Zan yes Divine [3:33:50] yes kakan yes Naran mayor bman yes and [3:33:55] adjournment move to adjourn second we [3:33:57] are adjourned at 9:32 p.m. thank [3:34:04] [Music] [3:34:09] you [3:34:11] [Music]