[0:00] Oh, that's good.
>> Okay. City of Greenale public hearing
[0:04] and council meeting. I'd like to call
the public meeting for the Stellar
[0:08] project to order. I would like to open
the meeting for public comment. Do we
[0:13] have any public comment tonight? Mary is
>> there's just a few things that I need to
[0:17] take care of if you don't mind.
>> No. Would you take the stand and
[0:21] » stand? Stand. That's not the
>> stand. Yeah. Yeah. I'm testifying
[0:25] » the podium. I do have a sign-in sheet
that we have to has to go with the grant
[0:29] application. Just saying that you're in
attendance if you don't mind pass
[0:32] signing that passing that around please.
>> Um
[0:34] » and you want everybody in the room?
>> Yep. Everybody in the room. Okay.
[0:37] Please. Yeah.
>> So, just for those of you who may not be
[0:40] aware, um the city of Greenale was part
of the Dear County Stellar program that
[0:45] was allocated some funding for the
street CA streetscape project. So, how
[0:49] that works is the money set aside um and
then we still have to file a formal
[0:54] application. So, we've been working with
the city. I'm Mary McCarti, by the way,
[0:57] from Southeastern Indiana Regional
Planning Commission um serving as the
[1:01] grant um administrator, grant writer for
this program. Sorry to introduce myself
[1:05] before. Um so, kind of how that work,
that money was set aside. We still have
[1:09] to file, the city has to file a formal
application. So, part of that formal
[1:13] application is we have to have two
public hearings. This is the second. We
[1:16] had one in August. Um, so this is the
second public hearing and we're just
[1:20] going to tell just a very bird's eye
view of the project and then open it up
[1:23] for questions or comments. The goal is
to have this grant application submitted
[1:28] by the end of September um before if we
can get it all together before then. If
[1:32] not, we we I think actually have until
the end of October, but we're going to
[1:36] try to get it done by the end of
September.
[1:38] » Um the grant amount being applied for is
2,750,000.
[1:43] The matching funds are 500,000 from
Greenale Redevelopment Commission and
[1:48] 187,500 from the city of Greenale. And
just a very brief scope of work um at
[1:54] street streetscape improvements along
Rich Avenue between Broadway and Kansas.
[1:59] improvements will focus on improving
overall vehicular and pedestrian
[2:03] circulation through various traffic
techniques to make traffic flow a little
[2:07] bit better, which includes maybe
narrowing some driving lanes, curb
[2:10] extensions, on street parking, and some
landscape fixtures. These improvements
[2:15] include but aren't limit to limited to
mill and resurface of existing roadway,
[2:19] construction of new curbs, concrete
sidewalks, an asphalt trail, decorative
[2:23] crosswalks and ADA compliant curb ramps
and a gateway plaza and monument sign as
[2:29] well as street lighting and other site
furnishments. So that's just a very
[2:32] brief overview of what you all are
applying for, what the city's applying
[2:36] for. Um, and then now I just want to
open up for questions and comments about
[2:40] about the project.
[2:45] Do we have any questions or comments?
>> Okay. Well, then I'd like to close the
[2:51] meeting.
>> I love these type of meetings. Thank
[2:53] you.
>> Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
[2:55] » Move to close.
>> Do you need Do we need a first and
[2:57] second?
>> I do.
[2:58] » Move to close.
>> Got a first. We have a second.
[3:00] » Second.
>> All in favor say I.
[3:02] » I.
>> Okay. Motion carries. Thank you. All
[3:05] right. Well, um, let's go into our
regular meeting. So, this would be the
[3:11] Greenale Council meeting September 9th,
2026, 6 p.m. I'd like to um call the
[3:16] meeting to order and please stand for
the pledge of allegiance.
[3:21] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[3:26] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[3:32] justice for all.
>> Okay.
[3:36] All right. The city of Greenale in
compliance with our title 6
[3:40] implementation plan is a
non-discriminating city. We have
[3:43] developed a complaint of discrimination
form that is open to the public at any
[3:47] time along with a voluntary public
survey. All right.
[3:53] Uh do we have any regular audience
comments tonight? No. Okay. I need
[3:59] approval of the August 12th, 2026 public
hearing minutes.
[4:03] » So move.
>> Got a first. Do we have a second?
[4:05] » Second. First and second. All in favor
say I.
[4:08] » I.
>> Okay. And then I also need the approval
[4:10] of the minutes of the August 12th, 2026
regular meeting minutes.
[4:15] » So moved.
>> Okay. Have a first. Do we have a second?
[4:19] » Second.
>> Second. All in favor say I.
[4:21] » I.
>> I.
[4:22] » Okay. Thank you. All right. We are going
to jump down
[4:27] um to new business number one. Uh the
Greenale Bike and Pedestrian Trail
[4:32] Pedestrian Bridge HWC Engine. This is
Alec. It's Porman, right, Alec? Yep.
[4:38] » Okay. Um, Alec's a
>> Are you landscape engineer or what? No,
[4:44] you're planner. Urban planning.
>> Urban planning. We talked about it
[4:48] earlier today.
>> I say urban planning, county planning.
[4:51] » Yeah,
>> depend depends where we're at, right?
[4:53] Urban planning maybe sometimes doesn't
uh sound too good in some places, but uh
[4:57] yes, thank you very uh like I said, my
name is Alec Porman. I am a project
[5:01] manager at HWC Engineering in our uh
planning department. Um, and I I've been
[5:07] the one that's been assisting along with
some other staff members for the
[5:10] Greenale 2026 bicycle and pedestrian uh
project acceleration plan. Uh, which is
[5:16] the name that was identified in um the
original scope when we when we kicked
[5:20] this off uh this evening. Uh really what
I want to do is a just give a
[5:24] introduction to you all. uh this plan um
is is through the Indiana Department of
[5:30] Health and at the end of the day it uh
will be or up to you but uh it they want
[5:36] it to be adopted as an amendment to your
current comprehensive plan. So uh this
[5:40] is kind of that induction to the
council. This will go through the same
[5:43] process where after today we'll kind of
go back um you make comments and edits
[5:48] and things to the document and then it
will go through a regular process where
[5:51] it goes to plan commission with a formal
public hearing and then they will
[5:54] forward something along to to you all.
>> Can I stop you there for a minute?
[5:59] » Yep.
>> Um one of the things I probably should
[6:01] have noted was this plan is being paid
for by a $20,000 grant that Main Street
[6:07] received as well as a $5,000
contribution from GRC. So, um, no money
[6:13] out towards Greenale residents. It's
it's all being fully funded, um, without
[6:18] taxpayer dollars. So, that's the nice
thing about this. Okay. Thank you.
[6:24] » Oh, my clicker might not reach over
here.
[6:25] » Are you Do we need to click it for you?
>> There you go.
[6:29] » Sorry, I was on the other.
>> You're good. I was like, I swear this is
[6:33] working earlier. Uh, I'll try to keep it
pretty brief this evening um just so we
[6:38] can get out of here. But uh tonight I do
want to go through just a project
[6:42] overview. You know, what this project
is, kind of the process behind it. A
[6:46] little bit into the community engagement
aspect of it. It was not just myself and
[6:51] the mayor, you know, putting our heads
together and figuring things out. You
[6:54] know, a little more community engagement
involvement went into this. A little bit
[6:58] on the document organization. Uh we do
have a a a draft uh document that's been
[7:03] reviewed by an advisory committee
meeting um already, but I just kind of
[7:07] want to give you all a little brief
rundown of what's in there and then go
[7:10] into the vision and goals of the
document uh priority projects that were
[7:15] identified throughout this uh throughout
this planning process and then what I
[7:19] hit on a little bit um already, but just
next steps for this document and its uh
[7:23] eventual adoption.
So for project overview uh to put it
[7:29] simply a this
uh plan is a bicycle and pedestrian
[7:34] plan. Uh like mayor said it's the
department of health and at the end of
[7:37] the day uh these documents are intended
to improve safety and accessibility for
[7:42] anyone walking or biking in Greenale. Uh
it's to ensure that we're creating a
[7:46] more connected network of sidewalks,
trails, bike routes, crossings, really
[7:51] any kind of facility that you would um
say goes into, you know, bicycle,
[7:55] pedestrian um in nature, whether that be
at at some point, you know, gets into,
[8:01] you know, the benches and the restrooms,
but this one focuses on more of the the
[8:05] hard infrastructure such as, you know,
the asphalt trails and and the the the
[8:09] sidewalks. uh they're intended to
support healthier lifestyles, uh
[8:12] recreation opportunities, and
alternative transportation op options
[8:17] besides driving uh and besides golf
carts, I will say we're a golf cart
[8:21] community here. Uh and it's also helps
guide future transportation investments
[8:25] and improvements throughout the
community. Um so just like a um what
[8:29] projects or or goals in your
comprehensive plan would do this would
[8:33] kind of function the same way that if
funding does become available or we are
[8:36] doing a project on Nland Avenue or
something like that it' be hopefully to
[8:40] reference back to this and see if we can
somehow fit some of the ideas and
[8:44] projects in this into those future uh
improvements.
[8:48] So why now? Uh like we've alluded to,
Greenale has received an Indiana
[8:52] Department of Health grant uh what the
20,000 $5,000 match. Uh and then also
[8:58] this is kind of in uh following with
recent regional and local planning
[9:03] initiatives that have already happened
uh within the area. Uh Green Del's
[9:07] action plan, the Greenale economic
development strategy, the comp plan, um
[9:12] you know, counties countywide documents
as well. Uh this is kind of a
[9:15] continuation of those where uh a lot of
those focused on regional connections.
[9:21] How do we get to Ohio? How do we get to
Lawrenburg? You know, how does the
[9:24] Dearborn Trail fit into Greenale and
infrastructure here? Uh but this is more
[9:28] of a a look inward. You're right. We
agreed that getting to those regional
[9:32] connections is good and we want to have
a walkable county, but you know, we want
[9:36] to focus on Greenale. So, this plan kind
of turned inward to look at some of
[9:39] those maybe lowhanging fruit or projects
that uh residents identified as what
[9:44] they'd really like to see in the near or
not so near future.
[9:48] Um, and at the end of the day, you know,
we we don't want to just uh say that
[9:52] these previous documents, you know, have
not provided uh really good examples and
[9:57] really good references and projects of
what, you know, we should focus on. Uh
[10:01] it's simply taken those a step further.
just kind of consolidating what's been
[10:04] in those and already identified and
continuing them with more of that inward
[10:08] look.
Just briefly on planning process, this
[10:13] really kicked off middle of May um with
an initial meeting with the mayor. I
[10:17] think Nathaniel was on that call as
well. Uh and then with a first advisory
[10:21] committee meeting in the middle of June.
So throughout
[10:25] this pretty short timeline from June
until today, we have had a workshop.
[10:30] We've had an online survey that's been
out. We've had four different advisory
[10:34] committee meetings and then multiple
drafts of this plan that's been bounced
[10:38] back and forth between the committee. Um
and then we'll with hopefully a final
[10:42] being able to come out next week.
So community engagement, like I
[10:47] mentioned, this was not just myself
sitting wondering what's best for
[10:50] Greenale. Uh like I said, we had an
advisory committee that met four times
[10:55] throughout this process and you know,
even people who maybe weren't able to
[10:59] attend all four sessions were still able
to provide feedback on the plan, review
[11:02] things like that, uh give input
throughout the process. Half of our
[11:06] committee, I think, is in the room right
now. You know, between uh Linda and the
[11:10] mayor, well, Ryan's not here, but uh
Mike um and Nathaniel are a part of this
[11:15] process. I'll help provide that that
feedback especially on when we heard
[11:20] things from the public either through
the online survey or the community
[11:23] workshop. The advisory committee is is
really a filter of sorts, right? Where
[11:28] okay well we've heard all these concerns
or all these challenges or all these
[11:31] like man it'd be great to have a trail
or sidewalk going through here but you
[11:35] know is it realistic, right? kind of a
advisory committee works as a little bit
[11:38] of that grounding uh group to make sure
that you know what we ultimately uh come
[11:43] up with and identify is uh is doable is
um actually in Green's best interests.
[11:49] So some brief opportunities that we
heard throughout the community
[11:53] engagement and we certainly heard a lot
from the uh over 200 different online
[11:57] surveys we had and then uh you know two
or three dozen different people who came
[12:01] to the community workshop. Um the main
opportunities and what was really hit on
[12:06] the most was support for traffic calming
measures. Yeah, just improving
[12:10] pedestrian cyclist safety overall. Uh
there is an appreciation for existing
[12:14] amenities um like Snowbell Pond, the
trail um and then interest in creating
[12:19] similar walkable spaces like that and
also connecting them together. Uh
[12:24] there's, you know, it there wanted to be
an increased awareness and use of
[12:28] community facilities through promotion.
It's great that we have all of these uh
[12:33] amenities already, but if people don't
know they're there or if visitors come
[12:37] into town and have no idea that there is
a trail that I can hop on and walk from
[12:41] one side of town to the other or, you
know, get to Lawrenburg or or get to the
[12:45] north side, then, you know, that's
that's also a challenge. Um, enhancing
[12:49] connections between Greenale's upper and
lower elevations
[12:53] certainly an issue everywhere in
southern Indiana, not just here, but it
[12:57] is a major barrier when we're looking at
how to make those connections over to uh
[13:01] 50 or or to Lawrenceburg, even north
towards the uh subdivisions um along
[13:06] Overberton.
Um and then improving access to
[13:09] underutilized areas within Greenell's
corporate limit. So once again, the idea
[13:13] that it's great that we've looked
regional in these past plans, but you
[13:17] know, it's time for us to kind of look a
little inward and really focus on
[13:20] ourselves
as far as challenges go. You know, like
[13:24] I like I said, it's not only the
topography, but you know, the trail
[13:28] alignment along any kind of active
railway corridor is always going to be
[13:32] an issue, especially when it's rail
road, you know, steep hill and not a lot
[13:37] of other room to kind of to kind of work
with. Um, and with that, you know, there
[13:41] was a little bit of feedback that look,
we kind of gone through these processes
[13:44] before and we have these plans, you
know, either uh through Stellar or
[13:48] through the tri-state trail, some work
they've done, but, you know, maybe there
[13:51] is a need once we've kind of seen some
new priorities kind of re-evaluate what
[13:55] what should be first up or what we
really want to focus on as a community
[13:58] as far as infrastructure goes. Um,
there's safety concerns north of
[14:02] Greenell Park. Um we previous meeting
board of works kind of highlighted the
[14:08] new sidewalk that's actually opposite
opposite side of this right here. Um
[14:12] going up and so that kind of gets a
little bit that that feeling of unease
[14:16] that I'm walking directly on the road.
There's not really that infrastructure
[14:19] or sidewalk facility that I can that I
can walk along. Um and along with that
[14:24] general lack of pedestrian bicycle
infrastructure in certain northern areas
[14:28] of the city I'll say you know once we
get up to one and you know overton road
[14:34] that becomes its own set of hurdles. So
yes it's identified that there is a lack
[14:37] of things up there but it's a real
challenge and difficult to get those up
[14:41] as so far you know everyone here knows
identified connections. So, you know,
[14:47] along with kind of the these broader
ideas on safety and connectivity, there
[14:51] were certain uh roads and certain
connections that started to pop up
[14:54] throughout this process, uh Nolan
Avenue, Ridge Avenue, you know, Greenell
[15:00] Park over to Ridge, you know, right?
Like that's a pretty big east west
[15:03] connection that we're kind of looking
for. Uh the Greenell Cemetery, that was
[15:07] something that was repeatedly brought
up. And uh while we've made some changes
[15:10] where we're not showing any routes
through there like directly onto the
[15:13] cemetery, that's people walk. there's no
cars, right? So, it's it is something
[15:18] that's still a hub in the center of the
city that we really can't take for
[15:21] granted. Um, Lello Street as well is
identified as one of those north south
[15:24] corridors uh throughout the community,
especially with the work that Stellar's
[15:28] doing um out here on Ridge and the idea
of building up our our downtown kind of
[15:33] near the Broadway area.
Uh there is also, you know, potential
[15:37] trail connections within Greenell Park.
Uh, like I said, connections throughout
[15:41] the cemetery opportunities connect city
hall and kind of this lot down to the
[15:46] tiger trail, which we talked about at a
at a meeting earlier today. Um, and then
[15:52] we had in here potential to formalize.
There is an existing staircase that was
[15:55] brought up um throughout the the
workshop and maybe a few comments on the
[16:00] online survey, but
not super ADA accessible and uh I think
[16:05] it would be a little more of a challenge
to uh fix that one up than to just build
[16:09] new.
[16:12] So, you know, not only were some these
routes identified, but as we were going,
[16:17] there were certain things that both the
public kind of identified as, you know,
[16:22] main key themes that we saw throughout
engagement as well as things that the
[16:26] city identified right off the bat as
being important. Uh, one of those
[16:29] accessibility. Um, really, you know,
it's want to make sure that our
[16:32] infrastructure is AD accessible. And,
you know, as we're building on
[16:35] infrastructure, it's another way to, you
know, slowly, you know, expand those
[16:39] facilities and that AD accessibility
across the community. uh wayfinding and
[16:43] user experience. Like I mentioned
earlier, it's great that we have these,
[16:47] but if I'm a visitor here and I'm, you
know, at Greenell Park, if I just want
[16:52] to walk around, how how do I know how to
get to downtown? How do I know how to
[16:55] get to the ice cream shop up on the
north side? Right? It's kind of some
[16:58] some simple way finding and improving
user experiences. So, we want to be out
[17:02] on the trails and we want to be out
walking and bicycling.
[17:07] Oh. Uh and then safety and connectivity.
So, it's I already had that one on
[17:12] there. Uh filling in the gaps in the
existing network and then safety
[17:16] overall, right? It's it's no secret that
we're a little mushed in at times in
[17:22] Greenell, right? Uh that's just a
product of how the city was built over
[17:25] the years and that's just a battle we're
going to continue having. So even with
[17:29] those challenges in place, how can we
make sure that any new facilities, new
[17:32] infrastructure really improve safety
even within those um smaller confines?
[17:39] And then a a final thing, like I said
earlier, the committee uh has reviewed a
[17:43] draft document already. And I just
wanted to a few of the the edits and
[17:47] comments that have been made to this um
with her feedback. Uh like I said, we
[17:51] did initially show like formal routes
directly through the cemetery or kind of
[17:57] over the cemetery, but those have been
removed just because we don't want them
[18:00] to kind of uh step on the toes of the
cemetery board and make sure that we're
[18:04] not suggesting something that they're
not comfortable with. uh added central
[18:07] elementary school to a list of
educational institutions. That one was
[18:11] that one was left off. So made sure we
want to get all of those in there. Uh
[18:14] included the organizations, the steering
committee members. So we had a a very
[18:19] wide range. Not only something that we
want to see, but the department of
[18:21] health wants to see. So you know,
members from uh the Dearborn County
[18:25] Health Department, you know, the soccer
club, Tri-State Trails, we had a
[18:28] representative from INDOT that was on
the meetings and calls with us. uh
[18:32] residents, you know, um even some of our
council members who have, you know,
[18:37] secondary things such as um you know,
Mike or or Paul with the conservicing
[18:42] district. So, a really well-rounded uh
group that we wanted to make sure was
[18:46] was highlighted because we think that is
important. Uh and then some other thing,
[18:50] you know, we had a little bit of word
smithing, just some updates to some of
[18:54] the the picture things. A little
clarification of some some commuting
[18:58] data. The commuting data is something
that the department of health wants us
[19:02] to look at within these plans and uh
difficult unless we're doing it
[19:08] ourselves at times, but some of the data
that is shown through the US census or
[19:13] even the state level, it's all county
specific. So, uh some of the data that
[19:17] we had pulled that said it was for
Greenale showed like 3,000 people coming
[19:21] in to work in Greenale each day. And
probably know that doesn't sound too
[19:25] realistic. Uh so we just wanted to make
sure that we updated that to be accurate
[19:30] and not uh really throw people for a
loop when they think that there's 3,000
[19:33] workers coming in on a given day.
For document organization, uh this
[19:40] document is separated into six different
chapters. An executive summary that's
[19:45] going to go over kind of the details of
the plan, a a highlevel overview of what
[19:49] the goals were, what some of those um
you know themes throughout public
[19:54] engagement were. uh the planning process
which is going to give a little more
[19:58] indepth
um look into the community engagement
[20:02] part of things. So not only is it going
to have you know little written
[20:05] narratives about what each advisory
committee meeting was but also get to
[20:09] little more detailed explanations of
what we heard from the workshop or what
[20:12] we heard from the um online survey.
A community profile that's going to be a
[20:17] general demographic and background uh
maybe a little different than what a you
[20:21] know comp plan or typical thing is
because they do want to see a little
[20:24] more health data. They want the
commuting data. They want to see things
[20:26] like how many people in Greenale don't
have a car, right? Like some of that
[20:30] stuff because they want we want to make
sure that these plans are for
[20:33] alternative transportation modes and you
know active lifestyle. So, uh that kind
[20:38] of background information is there as
well as descriptions of the previous
[20:42] plans that Greenell has or is part of
that relate somehow to uh bicycle and
[20:48] pedestrian infrastructure, whether it be
that tri-state trail plan, whether it be
[20:52] um the comprehensive plan that the city
has, right? making sure that we're not
[20:55] forgetting that those exist and that
they continue to build up and have led
[20:59] to this document here. Uh goals and
projects um both the you know physical
[21:05] infrastructure pieces and then as well
as you know the more broad goals and
[21:08] narratives and kind of key themes that
were identified through community
[21:12] engagement. Um kind of an implementation
chapter that gets into what are
[21:16] potential timelines for some of these
priority projects that we found. You
[21:19] know what are partnerships? You know
what are some of these the cost
[21:22] assumptions? um uh potential funding
sources throughout the state. Uh and
[21:26] then in appendices which is going to
have
[21:29] full survey from the online um that that
was pulled and if anyone is interested
[21:34] in looking through the the full data on
that uh as well as some actual graphics
[21:40] from the boards from the community
workshop. So, if you want to take, you
[21:44] know, our word in the summary, you see
something in the summary in that uh
[21:48] planning process that seems a little
off, then we want to make sure those are
[21:51] in there, too, so we can uh look at that
and see where they're coming from.
[21:56] Uh just an example of layout, right?
It's the idea that, you know, this is
[22:01] from the executive summary. So, right,
we're we're calling out vision. We're
[22:05] calling out goals. It's
nothing that we are um putting in here
[22:12] is
um stepping on or replicating what we've
[22:18] already done. We want to make sure that
this project is specific to not only the
[22:22] current needs of Greenale, but what the
Department of Health wants us to see in
[22:25] these grants. And they're also something
that, you know, we can actually use and
[22:29] something that uh we can add to the
current comprehensive plan that's going
[22:32] to make a significant difference and
hopefully um improve
[22:36] uh or make your guys' lives easier when
we're kind of making these decisions for
[22:40] development, zoning changes, and things
into the future.
[22:44] So, any questions so far? Trying to run
through it quick, but please feel free
[22:48] to stop me if if there are any.
So, vision and goals. Uh like I said,
[22:55] these vision and goals were identified
um throughout community engagement. You
[23:00] know, we they were kind of workshop back
and forth with the advisory committee.
[23:04] Um and kind of based on, you know, three
things. We were looking at programming,
[23:10] policy, and then infrastructure, right?
Because we want to be able to, you know,
[23:14] start with the base of policy to make
sure that, you know, we have the ability
[23:17] to kind of implement some of these
things. Uh hit on the infrastructure
[23:21] side of things because that's what we
want to build, right? is is for the
[23:24] sidewalks and trails and other
facilities. Um but then also include pro
[23:28] um include programming because if no
one's using the trails then you know why
[23:32] are we installing them and why do we why
do we want them for the vision? Uh
[23:36] pretty easy for for us to kind of update
this one because this was what the city
[23:41] originally identified in the RFP. It was
that we want to elevate Greenale as one
[23:47] of the most familyfriendly and vibrant
communities in southeast Indiana through
[23:51] designated trails and multi-use pathways
that link neighborhoods with
[23:55] recreational, commercial, and social
destinations, fostering health, safety,
[24:00] and community pride while preserving the
small town charm that makes Green Screen
[24:03] Greenell unique. Right? I don't I don't
think I could have written that any
[24:07] better myself, but I tried. So I think
really from from an early on seeing this
[24:12] is what you know the city wanted to
focus on it really helped lead to some
[24:16] of these um you know the programs
policies and infrastructure that you
[24:20] know I want to briefly touch on now. So,
building the foundation,
[24:24] uh, this is going to cover kind of our
our two policy things, and it's complete
[24:28] targeted updates to Greenell's unified
development ordinance that tie bicycle
[24:33] and pedestrian facility requirements to
new development, redevelopment, and any
[24:38] zoning change requests. Uh, this is
something that at our 4:00 meeting um,
[24:43] this this afternoon, we kind of hit on a
little more, and maybe we can come back
[24:47] and talk to this at the end if if we
have some time. Um but just important
[24:51] that if we want to implement things in
here, we need to make sure that you all
[24:55] have the tools and the power to be able
to do that at times.
[24:59] Uh then utilize future bicycle and
pedestrian projects as tools to progress
[25:03] ADA compliant infrastructure across the
community.
[25:07] Enhancing user experiences or you know
the programming side of things. We want
[25:11] to make sure that we create a consistent
wayinding and brandage uh and branding
[25:16] standards that can be used throughout
Greenell's trail network. partner with
[25:20] local organizations to expand
coordinated programming the activate
[25:24] trail and sidewalk network which you
know we're doing already you know the
[25:27] bike to school events one of those or
you know the uh the the rented bicycles
[25:32] that are down in Lawrenburg like getting
some of those up here like those ideas
[25:35] exist but how can we really capitalize
on that and bring them to Greenale or um
[25:39] expand upon them further and then
organize regular trail maintenance and
[25:43] community stewardship initiatives to
assist in general maintenance and foster
[25:46] community pride. It's great that we have
these. They're expensive to put in. They
[25:51] can be just as expensive to maintain.
So, if we can start kind of building,
[25:55] you know, a little bit of uh community
stewardship and kind of get a base of
[25:59] volunteers that can assist with some of
these things that makes the city's job a
[26:03] little easier when it's time to clear
the limbs or, you know, plow or things
[26:05] of that nature.
[26:10] And then expanding the network. Uh there
are
[26:14] these long-term goals that were
identified as well as what we'll get
[26:19] into next and shown on the map. Uh
priority projects
[26:23] while these are certainly important and
I'll kind of hit on here. Uh it was
[26:26] found that maybe they are still a little
regional little too regional or just you
[26:32] know it's not something we can easily
accomplish within the next 10 years.
[26:35] We're going to have to do a little more
leg work before we can get there. Uh so
[26:38] first one being develop a Ridge Avenue
corridor plan. Uh it was interesting
[26:43] throughout this process that while Ridge
Avenue is our main spine of the
[26:46] community, there weren't that many
comments from the public about
[26:50] challenges with walking on it or uh you
know people really wanting to see new
[26:55] facilities there which was I think a
little bit of a surprise to us. But at
[26:58] the same time it is a major corridor
within the city. So, at at some point,
[27:02] especially with the work that we're
doing right right down the road here, uh
[27:06] continuing that up, you know, kind of
kind of coming up with a new corridor
[27:09] plan to be able to extend those
facilities and really know what we want
[27:12] along Ridge Avenue and what works. Uh
build a trail along the southern side of
[27:17] the levy linking Ridge Avenue with
Lawrenburg Community Schools. Uh this
[27:22] was one that has been present in
previous planning efforts as well. It's
[27:26] a difficult one as any levy is but
important enough that we really want to
[27:31] throughout the process people really
wanted that link between Ridge A where
[27:35] it turns into Main Street there and then
getting over behind the schools or then
[27:39] down eventually to Lawrenburg. Um
technically yes, people can now take
[27:44] that down, loop up and around and
eventually kind of cut through the
[27:47] schools, but uh having a more consistent
and straightforward path where that
[27:52] current kind of hub and that trail head
is there on the west side of the levey
[27:56] next to Ridge A. Continue that on the
dry side of the levey is uh what that
[28:01] one is more so looking at. And then
extending infrastructure along Overton
[28:05] Road and US50 to Valley Woods and the
Ohio State Line. Uh this one was pretty
[28:11] prevalent when people were discussing u
facility types they'd like to see and
[28:15] kind of improvements and expansions, but
like I said earlier, I mean it's narrow
[28:19] through there. You have the railroad on
one side, you have steep cliffs on the
[28:23] other, even going up 50 and cutting
under, for instance, its own challenges
[28:27] cuz INDOT's notoriously easy to work
with. So it's really something that's
[28:32] important but far enough out that, you
know, maybe we need to look a little
[28:36] more. It's going to take a number of
years before we can finally kind of get
[28:39] the wheel spinning on that one
and then we'll come back to that. That's
[28:45] kind of what we were talking about
earlier with some some ordinance
[28:48] language. Uh priority projects. So these
were the projects that uh were
[28:52] identified either because they were
existing projects in previous plans that
[28:57] we really want to focus on because
they're within Greenale or new items
[29:01] that you know nothing's really a you
know easy project but more of a
[29:05] lowhanging fruit something that people
are really talking about wanting to see.
[29:09] Uh so the three projects Miller Avenue,
Lello Street and Tiger Trail. So, Miller
[29:16] Avenue briefly talked about at the
public works. That one's going to be
[29:20] tweaked a little bit, but the idea is
here that we are trying to create a link
[29:25] between Schnowbelts Pond and the
Greenale Park. Uh really using Miller
[29:30] Avenue as the primary route to avoid the
heavier traffic on Nland Avenue. Um
[29:34] connecting where that trail ends on
Marie Street over to Miller, taking that
[29:38] down. Um and then you know creating
sidewalks, lighting, um you know lawns,
[29:44] street lawns and pedestrian things along
the street so we can start linking those
[29:48] two parks in an area where it was
identified as maybe having less
[29:52] pedestrian infrastructure than people
would like to see. I will say this is
[29:57] going to change a little bit now because
of the uh recent sidewalk that's going
[30:03] to go in here on Avenue. So I think now
instead of us showing this coming from
[30:08] Locus all the way down uh to our Hag
Avenue would be in this kind of
[30:13] difficult bin here, we're actually going
to take this down into the Locust and
[30:18] then shoot over. So we'll eventually
connect to that sidewalk that's going up
[30:21] down the Avenue. So slight change to
this one, but still kind of completes
[30:26] the idea that we're really trying to
create a link between the pond and
[30:29] Greenell Park for a connected network
within Greenell.
[30:34] second Lello Street. Uh the idea here
was creating a central spine uh really
[30:38] between the cemetery and uh Broadway or
you know our our the stellar area in the
[30:44] downtown area. Uh the idea for this was
really focusing more on improving
[30:48] bicycle facilities as a short-term um
kind of goal as sidewalk facilities do
[30:54] exist on both sides of the road most
places. uh and really trying to set the
[30:58] stage for the street to become a yeah
you know I don't know boulevard is the
[31:02] correct term but really a extremely
friendly bicycle and pedestrian spine in
[31:07] the future. Uh the idea that if we can
start with you know some type of
[31:12] protected striped unprotected bike lane
on one side of the street now uh put
[31:17] that in really can cement that route.
Then in the future is it okay well now
[31:23] we want to maybe improve the lawns on
east side or now you know do we when
[31:27] people talk about traffic calming and we
talk about uh you know pedestrian you
[31:31] know friendly infrastructure and um and
and combining that with vehicles is it
[31:36] you know the curb bumpouts is it making
it more protected is it you know adding
[31:39] you know a larger of a lawn or adding
additional facilities there so this one
[31:44] certainly different phases and you know
we uh what I'll get into a little bit
[31:48] but we did maybe change how we're going
to look at the facilities on this one
[31:52] and in the short term versus long term
from our meeting this afternoon. So,
[31:57] small tweaks to this one as well, but at
the end of the day, it is trying to
[32:00] create that spine from the cemetery all
the way down to where the um new
[32:05] infrastructure will be here on Ridge um
next to Broadway.
[32:10] And then Tiger Trail. Uh this was
certainly one that's been talked about a
[32:13] lot in the past. It's in a lot of
previous documents and I think it just
[32:17] continues to be a major priority for
residents of Greenale just because it
[32:23] is a very long interrupted trail
network. Uh it can, you know, eventually
[32:27] create a connection between, you know,
the Levy Trail on the east side of 50
[32:31] eventually over to where, you know, it
hits Ridge Avenue down by the Levy and
[32:35] creates a really continuous um safe
pedestrianon uh facility. Certainly
[32:41] challenges with this. It's, you know,
getting from the existing Tiger Trail,
[32:45] what we're showing, up to Lori Lane is
quote unquote the easy part. Uh, but
[32:50] then next stages is, well, how do we get
up to that Ridge Avenue connection?
[32:54] Like, it's not um it's not easy. I mean,
I think it's like I guess what was it
[32:59] maybe 70 ft or so of elevation change
and not not that much distance. So, you
[33:03] know, is it some idea? This is an
example of New Albany. Is it the idea
[33:07] that we want to start, you know, um kind
of that that back and forth platform? So
[33:12] it is AD accessible. We can connect it
maybe up to where the the fire station
[33:16] is there and where the the route or the
the drive into the cemetery is or as we
[33:21] discussed in previous meeting too and
notice figuring out what what we need to
[33:25] do to get the access road over here the
utility department. Um, no, no one
[33:30] answer, no right answer, but certainly
identified in this project is look, it's
[33:34] great when we're creating the next link
of the Tiger Trail, but we really want
[33:38] to connect it up to Ridge Avenue,
different places in the future so we can
[33:41] have more of a a circular network.
[33:46] So, any questions on these? Like I said,
these these were the the three that came
[33:51] out of
um discussion between, you know, not
[33:56] only everyone in the advisory committee
meeting, but this was what was voted on
[34:00] um at the workshop and really what we
had the most comments on and the most
[34:04] not even challenges, but what people
wanted to see and where they wanted to
[34:07] see facilities. That's why these were
chosen. There were some other areas that
[34:10] were new as well. uh within the plan uh
on the kind of future facilities map. We
[34:17] do show existing trail networkers. We do
show the kind of uh identified trails
[34:24] and previous plans which is really you
know bridge and over on Belleview or you
[34:29] know eventually up to the Ohio State
line on 15 Overton or you know down
[34:33] through Morrisburg.
But the there were outside of these
[34:38] priorities you know uh one of them was
from M side over to Ridge Avenue. Um or
[34:45] being able to the idea that you know we
can connect Greenale
[34:49] eventually to we make the the route um
I'll say route through the cemetery but
[34:55] people already walk through there. How
can we improve facilities along sides of
[34:58] that to be able to kind of ease that
access? And then as well as what we me
[35:03] what I mentioned earlier, the dry side
of levy connecting that from that ridge
[35:07] at and where that current trail head is
on the south side of the levy down to
[35:12] where the schools are.
>> Alec,
[35:14] » yes. And and my I got to apologize
because I know I was invited to all
[35:18] these, but when when Mike came to
redevelopment for the funding, it was my
[35:24] assumption it was just going to be a
connection within Greenale proper to the
[35:30] to just the parks. It wasn't going to
expand the pond. And I don't know and
[35:36] again I see this and we did we well
redevelopment did with Tri-State Trails
[35:43] a very very comprehensive
>> working with Lawrenceburg working with
[35:47] great parks of Cincinnati and stuff.
>> Um and I not sure all that's in there. I
[35:54] don't see it because I know on the dry
side of the levy going along the center
[35:59] road is not a possibility. Mhm.
>> And if you come down on the dry side
[36:06] with the MGP and the LCD, they would not
give you access.
[36:09] » Yep. Yeah, that was and that's why that
one was while certainly talk about
[36:14] importance.
>> Yeah.
[36:16] » Wherever my eventually when I get back
here. That's why Yeah. Still we wanted
[36:20] to keep it as a goal because it it was
brought up a lot. You know, it was
[36:24] something commented on. But yes, you're
right. It's
[36:26] » But I I think you would take it off as a
goal since it's But again, so on the
[36:30] Tiger Trail,
>> do you know that we already bid that
[36:33] out?
>> Uh Nathaniel mentioned that earlier.
[36:38] » We technically didn't bid out.
>> We didn't.
[36:40] » Just for clarification, I had a
preliminary design done,
[36:43] » right?
>> And roughly, if top of my head, I think
[36:46] numbers came out back around I think I
had it down to five or 600,000,
[36:51] » I think it was. So redevelopment looked
at extending it down to
[36:56] trying to think the
>> Lauren Hill. I think I had it coming up
[36:58] at Lauren Hill Lane.
>> No, we were going further because it was
[37:01] going to come up.
>> That's right. Yeah.
[37:03] » Yeah. Cuz we we it was 400,000 just to
get it to where Dave Lorie's
[37:09] » Lori Lane
>> house is. Yeah.
[37:11] » And that was just 400,000. We
>> the money was just not there. Then we're
[37:17] going to extend it on because there's
another road that comes up.
[37:22] Um I'm trying to think and it because we
redevelopment owned some of that land
[37:28] there and it would come up further
>> the name but
[37:31] » yeah it would come up but it was like I
thought it was close to a million
[37:35] dollars.
>> I had it I know I had it down to about
[37:37] 600.
>> Yeah. But but you're right that small
[37:40] section there the cost to get it up
Yeah.
[37:44] » was that so that's why I just didn't
know if
[37:46] you know, you guys, it it just was cost
prohibitive for redevelopment. Now, the
[37:51] city may want to take that on.
>> Yeah.
[37:55] Uh, no, this one was and you know, I if
it been it down, we had within the
[38:03] implementation section, a table that had
some
[38:08] cost estimates based on some of our
landscape architecture team did and put
[38:11] it into whatever they're using to
calculate for bids and things like that.
[38:15] And you're right, that is the most
expensive one, but it was just commented
[38:19] on so many times throughout public
engagement and starred and dotted that
[38:24] we felt it was almost necessary to make
sure that that was identified even even
[38:29] though it was certainly the most
expensive one out of these three
[38:32] projects. And you're right, there lot of
hassles and it's just getting it to Lori
[38:36] Lane, right? It's not even getting it up
to Ridge A that part of that project.
[38:39] But
>> and we are not only just residents, but
[38:42] a lot of the workers down there now want
to go walk.
[38:46] » Yeah.
>> And that's it's a it's a good selling
[38:48] point
>> for that.
[38:49] » So yeah, and that's why it was left in.
It's okay.
[38:52] » Just because it did it did make that
link to 50, which then you can hopefully
[38:56] take over to where the, you know, the
Levy Trail is and connect to the
[38:59] Dearborn Trail. It does connect down
around the the fairgrounds and to the
[39:04] Levy and eventually to Riv Ridge ridge
there on that south side. So that was
[39:07] the reason. Um, and like I said, some of
the other like Ridge AB, Overton Road
[39:12] maybe would have taken it, but it was
just such a
[39:17] so many different moving pieces I think
on how we're going to get up there. Is
[39:20] to do take 50 up and cut under. Do we
somehow wiggle up around the trail
[39:24] around the, you know, the rail line and
and swiggle up through Overton that way?
[39:28] Uh, I think that's why that one just
kind of dropped off. Maybe not as
[39:31] important, but less as of a priority,
more of a future goal with, you know,
[39:35] we're Yeah, we're
>> not and I agree because there's a
[39:38] there's actually a tunnel
>> that goes under the railroad that when
[39:43] » Tri-State Trails and the people from
Great Park saw it, they were like,
[39:47] » "That's Yeah, that's
>> they were in amazement." And we actually
[39:50] have an agreement with the apartment
complex that's going in that where they
[39:54] will give us access to their side of it.
Mhm. And I think uh Mike Pearlberg was
[40:01] also on this committee and his comment
was always it wasn't that it was just in
[40:05] dot and how we're pedestrian bridge over
or we somehow cross. Yeah. Like that I
[40:10] think that was almost more of the issue
there than going under.
[40:13] » We were just going to take the lights
and take the over to get to the hospital
[40:18] at that point.
>> Yeah.
[40:25] » Okay. uh quickly next steps for
adoption. I kind of hit on this earlier,
[40:29] but so the plan is public presentation
this evening, September 9th. We had our
[40:33] final advisory committee meeting earlier
today as well. Uh the idea is to take
[40:37] kind of comments were here this evening.
We're talking about uh there's certainly
[40:42] um a few things that from our our
meeting this afternoon that we're going
[40:46] to change that change to Miller A route.
Um taking that on Locust instead, some
[40:51] cost assumptions for for Lello and kind
of changing those up a little bit so
[40:54] it's not
It's more bicycle focused and not full
[40:59] streetscape focused. Um making sure that
one of the comments was identifying
[41:05] access road, the access road behind
utilities building, shut it down
[41:09] completely. Do we use it in the future?
What's that route? Maybe not saying what
[41:12] we need to do, but just making sure we
know that it's a a major priority and a
[41:16] major challenge going forward because
people are still using it. So, you know,
[41:20] tough to stop them, but what can we do
to kind of help that? Um,
[41:26] and then yes, if if if we do need to
revisit or or you know, look at this a
[41:30] little different, I think if yeah,
Nathaniel is getting this cost down
[41:34] significantly, then maybe we need to put
that number in instead of the number we
[41:39] have. If you know it's possible, then
take what we have.
[41:42] » I mean, and I will say too, I said that
was a very preliminary design and cost
[41:46] estimate. It wasn't something you're
going to take to bid.
[41:48] » Ah, okay.
>> So, I said it was more just to give the
[41:51] redevelopment. I think
>> general idea of what the considered a
[41:55] budget
>> and I can tell and I have the
[42:00] actual tables and stuff on on my
computer that then we I can send out a
[42:05] look at later. But yeah, the tiger
extension for I think it was 10 foot
[42:08] asphalt trail and then concrete nodes on
the north side was 2 mil.
[42:12] » Yeah. And I said like I took out the
concrete and different things like I I
[42:16] manipulated it enough to get it down to
where it was still
[42:20] » in code but it wasn't going to be the
prettiest thing in the world.
[42:23] » Yeah. And certainly yeah not something
you're right that redevelopment is going
[42:25] to want to have that bill for but
>> yeah it just and as you said trails are
[42:30] just
crazily expensive but everybody wants
[42:34] them. I mean the younger generation it's
>> it's it's a must if we want to keep
[42:39] growing.
>> Yeah.
[42:42] But with that, I say any other
questions? I um you know, if we don't
[42:48] have questions, maybe want to hit on our
our one goal on UDO updates, but besides
[42:52] that, does anyone else have any
questions, comments? It's certainly not
[42:56] the last time you'll see it. I guess I
should finish saying here uh with the
[43:00] adoption, we're make any comments and
changes and then try to I say September
[43:04] on Monday, but might need to make a
little more tweaks since we're changing
[43:07] locust now. So hopefully next week we'll
have a a final final draft um that we
[43:13] can in the committee and that can be
shared with you all as well. Um idea
[43:17] that this will go to plan commission
hearing.
[43:22] I think this month is too soon. October,
November, uh within a city council
[43:26] adoption following that. Uh like I said,
Department of Health wants these to be
[43:31] added into your comprehensive plans.
That's one of the requirements for the
[43:34] grant itself.
uh you do not have a timeline once we
[43:38] once we hit um substantial completion of
this which we have already gotten the
[43:42] okay from the department of health. So
we have all the time in the world now
[43:47] for the adoption. You know if it's next
month a month after the month after that
[43:50] they just want to make sure that it is
within a reasonable amount of time uh
[43:54] formally adopted by the city um to
fulfill that grant. but they've okayed
[44:00] it. So, we've got everything on their
end is just making sure that we're
[44:03] wrapping up uh any ends and making any
changes that um that you all feel
[44:08] comfortable with.
[44:11] » Well, thank you.
>> Thank you.
[44:13] » I appreciate all their time and effort
and you guys have been very very good
[44:17] and very easy to work with. I appreciate
that.
[44:19] » I say it's it it's always nice. Greenale
is one of those where it helps when you
[44:24] guys already have all your eggs in a row
and you have everything planned out and
[44:28] have kind of done the leg work already,
right? We're not starting from ground
[44:31] zero. So, um it's it's nice when we have
a town that is is behind a city that's
[44:37] behind things and
>> you know, also you guys didn't come in
[44:39] here and try to reinvent the wheel. you
understood now the situation we were,
[44:43] you know, it's a hundred-y old community
now and we've it just it grew in stages
[44:48] and it wasn't there wasn't a plan and
that makes it tough.
[44:53] » Yeah. So,
>> well, thank you.
[44:55] » Thank you.
>> Appreciate it. Thanks. Thanks.
[44:56] » Y
>> Okay. All right, Becky. Moving on to the
[45:00] clerk treasur report.
[45:04] You all received your um financial
statements which include your fund
[45:10] statement. Um I don't know if you
noticed on page two our med account it's
[45:16] showing negative. Um I know Mike noticed
that.
[45:22] » Um
>> same with the water
[45:24] » and water.
>> Oh the water's easy that we had that
[45:28] $700,000 loan. Yeah,
>> we transferred the money, but I just
[45:32] haven't done the entries yet.
>> Okay.
[45:33] » Kind of the same with the medbin. We had
to do an additional transfer into the
[45:37] medben fund. Our claims have just been
ridiculously high this year.
[45:44] » Yeah. Insurance. Our insurance kills us.
It's expensive.
[45:48] » Yes, it's very expensive.
>> Yeah.
[45:50] » So, those were the two I wanted to
mention in case somebody was wondering
[45:55] why those were negative.
>> You usually the banker.
[45:59] I don't like to
>> he can't help himself on the on the
[46:02] river boat. Does a supplemental for the
second part um the
[46:09] oh the quarterly admissions do we get
that throughout the year or is a
[46:13] supplemental for the um
the the other part up above doesn't come
[46:18] up till one lump sum.
[46:24] So the Dearborn County they quarterly
admissions that supplemental is once a
[46:28] year the 490 490,000.
>> Oh, so they've already paid us that.
[46:33] » Yes.
>> But the one up above
[46:34] » one above that 34,000
>> um looking to 278 from 25
[46:42] » at the I think that was at the final
Becky of 2025.
[46:47] » Oh yes, that comes in a lump sum. Okay.
quarterly is all comes quarterly and
[46:52] then
>> Thank you.
[46:54] » I don't know. So,
>> appreciate it.
[46:58] » Bless you.
>> And I think we've exhausted all of our
[47:01] donations this year and we do not have
any new business life in
[47:06] » Thank you. Um Erin reached out to me. Um
we had a employee lose his daughter um
[47:15] last week and she had a thought. Would
you like to expound on that, please?
[47:21] » Um, I did email everyone, I think. Um,
but
[47:27] we had an idea about potentially putting
a tree in the cemetery and having a um a
[47:33] plaque
so that she has a there's a a place that
[47:38] the family could stop by and visit.
>> Yeah. I don't think the cemetery has a
[47:42] formal program yet. They're talking
about it, but it's no.
[47:46] » Is it? Yeah.
>> EG told you no.
[47:51] » Yeah.
>> Well, I mean formalized. What we've done
[47:56] in the past is actual cost. Whatever the
tree costs is
[48:01] too.
>> I mean,
[48:02] » but you can't put it. You have to put it
where the cemetery wants.
[48:05] » Yeah. The cemetery places it right. So,
there's a tree for my dad. Like, you
[48:09] know, we didn't pick the spot, but it's
there. Okay.
[48:12] » Um, I just thought it was a good idea if
you guys are interested. Yeah, I I think
[48:16] it's a great idea, too.
>> You know, I
[48:20] I I do as well. Um and I
>> Allan's daughter left behind three
[48:26] little children. I think it's a be a
great memory.
[48:29] » So,
>> right. Um and I think Allan does a lot
[48:31] for this community and and the rest of
this family as well. So, you guys are
[48:36] » Can can I just throw one thing out
there? I I agree. It's a great idea, but
[48:40] talking to him, I don't know if that's
something he
[48:45] trying to find the correct words, but I
think he really is just trying to put it
[48:48] in the past and doesn't want any type of
reminder.
[48:52] » Well, how about we do this? If if you
think he changes his mind, will you let
[48:56] us know?
>> Yeah. Well, that's what I was going to
[48:57] say. Maybe I can talk to him. Like I
said, I I think it's a great idea, but I
[49:01] also think we have to respect his wishes
and and talking with him. I just think
[49:07] » for him and his family, they're trying
to just move past, for lack of better
[49:11] words.
>> So, I don't know if they want that
[49:13] reminder, but I'll I'll communicate with
him and get back with you guys.
[49:16] » Okay.
>> And maybe it just needs more time to
[49:18] heal.
>> Correct. Yeah.
[49:19] » Okay.
>> Yeah. That's a lot to to deal with
[49:22] » since you're on that subject.
>> Okay.
[49:23] » Of a tree. Um I think most of you guys
know that Willis Whitaker passed away
[49:30] this past week.
>> Yeah. Um, don't know if you guys know
[49:34] this or not, but Willis was very
integral part of getting the fishing
[49:39] derby
>> in Greenale.
[49:43] » He uh donated all his time, took his
grandkids there. Uh, and he just gave
[49:48] that up not too long ago.
>> Uh, he just got a little bit uh older
[49:53] and
>> aged out.
[49:55] » Aged out
>> and passed the torch on. But, uh, I
[49:59] think it'd be great for the city to
plant a tree actually at Schneel's Pond
[50:03] with a with a plaque and in memory of
him. And
[50:06] » I love the idea. I mean, it's why would
we not? I mean, you go up to Miami White
[50:11] Water and I did it myself for somebody
and, you know, for X amount of dollars,
[50:18] a tree was guaranteed for two years. I
got the plaque in there and they chose a
[50:24] tree. I didn't get I didn't get a choice
as one of three four trees and it's it's
[50:30] great. You ride along the Miami
whitewater bike trail and they're all
[50:33] there and guess what Miami Whitewater
great parks didn't pay for them.
[50:39] » I I
>> Would you like to comment?
[50:41] » Well, I have comment.
>> Yeah.
[50:43] » Planting trees in the parks. We're happy
to take donations of trees. Happy to
[50:49] plant them. We do not put on trees. Why
not?
[50:54] » What's the downside?
>> It's something really that we discussed
[50:58] a great length with Jackson.
>> They don't do it. The reasons for it
[51:06] make a lot of sense to me. It gets a
little bit
[51:09] uh
>> you're you're saying you're saying great
[51:12] parks doesn't do it.
>> Great parks.
[51:14] » Okay.
>> Uh
[51:17] there have been a couple creative ways
we have been able to distinguish a
[51:22] donation.
without violating that policy of the
[51:26] park department. It comes up. It's
really it's a decision. It's a policy of
[51:30] the park.
>> Can that decision be changed?
[51:33] » And it wasn't an arbitrary thing. We
discussed it at great length with Jack
[51:36] S.
>> I get and Jack was in part of Great
[51:39] Parks.
>> Yes. And he's got a pretty good handle
[51:41] on right what's appropriate, what works.
>> Uh it turns into a maintenance issue. it
[51:48] turns into a target for vandalism,
stealing the facts
[51:53] and and we have had a longstanding
policy not to. And it was, as I said, it
[51:58] wasn't an arbitrary thing. We we
consider him a great source and uh it's
[52:05] something we maintain. We had the issue
a year ago with deceased person. Um, and
[52:13] it is, as I said, it's a park department
policy under the parview of the
[52:18] authority of the park.
>> Well, can we make a donation for a tree
[52:23] and let allow you to at least pick a
tree and plant a tree for him?
[52:27] » Sure.
>> Okay.
[52:28] » And maybe we can think of a way to to
I have always thought this
[52:37] that people who contribute to the parks,
there ought to be way for them to come
[52:42] into a city building like this or a
point of gathering
[52:48] and
you you pay to plant a tree but also you
[52:54] have buil been in construction of new
hospitals where somebody makes a
[52:59] donation to a hospital and there's a
leaf on a tree in a public building.
[53:04] » Well, we talked about that a couple
years ago. a tree of donation
[53:07] » talked about at least because of this
very situation,
[53:10] » right?
>> I I think it would be a lovely a lovely
[53:14] thing for there not just to be the tree,
but there could be some recognition
[53:19] uh of that individual's name somewhere.
Uh and it's something we discussed
[53:27] frankly in a area down the hallway and
if the building ever moves right,
[53:31] » you can move that
>> that recognition and the tree would a
[53:36] great purpose in the park.
>> But I think but I think and Lyn, I'm
[53:39] sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you,
but I but I think somebody like him, you
[53:44] want to go to that location and think
about him. I his family or anything like
[53:51] that, just like like we're planting a
tree in the cemetery, they're not going
[53:56] to come and, you know, go into the
cemetery office and look at a wall. I
[54:02] think that's
>> well
[54:04] » in my opinion in my opinion
>> in my view and again particularly after
[54:08] I thought about it years ago in
conversation with with Mr.
[54:16] You don't need
in essence that plaque is for
[54:22] it is not for the it's not for the you
can go to that tree
[54:28] and think about that individual
>> but it's for the community it's for the
[54:32] community
>> because Jack suggested I do this
[54:35] » plant the tree and the plaque at great
parks.
[54:38] » Yeah.
>> So I mean you know
[54:40] » he's the one that we talked to.
>> No I don't doubt that.
[54:43] his wife Beth was on the parkour at the
time and I can't say I talked to him
[54:48] directly but we had a number of
conversations through
[54:52] » but uh I can certainly bring it up the
parkour but
[54:58] we were able to recognize Mr.
at Schneel Park
[55:05] because
we could get a bench made with Schne as
[55:10] part of the structure of the bench and
there was a little plaque on but it
[55:14] still satisfied the family. There is a
playground feature at Schneaval Park
[55:21] with a little uh cute saying on it uh as
a memorial that isn't a that doesn't say
[55:28] the the individual's name simply says
you know raw on it's on that little duck
[55:35] bouncer
>> at the park there are creative ways to
[55:39] think about it but there we do have a no
plaque policy in the park um And it is a
[55:47] policy on parkour note
>> not a decision
[55:52] » with thought is
>> council funds you
[55:54] » right
>> I mean let's just be black and white you
[55:57] know I mean that's
>> let me say this if this is a reason for
[56:00] council
>> to opt not to fund parks department
[56:05] » I'm not saying I'm not saying it is or
isn't but what I'm saying is that
[56:10] » it is what you just said
>> I did say that but also you're but you
[56:15] made the comment before. Then that led
me to my comment. It was a policy of the
[56:20] park board and we have no right to
change it. And
[56:24] » you need to look at the statute.
>> Linda, you're probably right. I probably
[56:27] do. I just I just think it's telling us
black and white. It's no
[56:33] » you know, you said Well, you said it's a
policy part that the pol that park board
[56:37] is not going to change. And
>> well, I can't say it wouldn't change.
[56:42] Perfectly welcome to come to the park
board. I'm just saying I can't at night
[56:46] that it's going to help. Nor can you say
it's going to help? It's something
[56:51] » and you said that with the with the
plaques getting stolen or damaged and
[56:56] I'm trying to think, you know, if it was
a brass plaque, but I don't think those
[57:00] are brass to my knowledge and I'm sure
some do. I'm sure some do on the Miami
[57:06] whitewater trail because there's one
probably about every 10 ft.
[57:12] But many on all with due respect, you
know, the parks are community parks
[57:17] » and and everybody's part and and
everybody's part and everybody's part
[57:20] everybody's part of the community.
Now, if we want to I mean, I think and
[57:25] you know, obviously we don't want to cut
the parks funds, but it might have to
[57:29] come to the point where, you know, parks
are going to have to bring what they
[57:32] want to spend in front of the board.
>> We always do.
[57:35] » It'll be this year in budget.
>> Okay.
[57:37] » Always do.
[57:41] » Okay. Okay. Well, let's let's let's talk
about the tree without the plaque, but
[57:44] let's solve one part of this problem
tonight. I I think I think Willis
[57:50] Whitaker um
his son-in-law said to me last night at
[57:56] the visitation,
Greenale lost a good friend today.
[58:03] » And I I agree with that. He he was
outstanding man. So, what do you need
[58:10] from us to plant a tree? Do you need you
will pick it out on I assume um you want
[58:16] to discuss with the family where they
may want it or do you have a spot in
[58:19] mind?
>> We do. They want you tell me what park
[58:23] they want.
>> Yeah. Is there a couple location
[58:28] in
planted in accordance with best
[58:32] recommended right tree right place?
>> Right. Okay. and pick one. We've been
[58:39] pretty serious about trying to create a
diverse
[58:44] uh culture of trees there. Frankly, we
have enough trees to have a level one
[58:48] artery at the time. uh because of the
monoculture kill off with so many
[58:56] diseases that are attacking trees in the
country and
[59:01] remember when Marsburg lost all their
street
[59:05] » so we're pretty careful about where we
site and what we select but u
[59:11] » the we would do it in the fall when it
would have the best survival
[59:15] » have you have you planned the chestnut
yet
[59:18] » no
>> that'd be kind of
[59:21] Yeah. For Lyn and I, we've talked about
this a lot. Um,
[59:27] at the turn of the century, 1900s, um,
the large the the the worst ecological,
[59:36] what's the word I'm looking for? Um,
>> crisis.
[59:39] » Crisis. There you go. It happened in the
United States and it was the loss of the
[59:42] chestnut trees. And they have gra they
have they have bred American chestnuts
[59:49] to Chinese chestnuts and they've come up
with several culivars and the most
[59:54] common ones to Dunston and it's we're
trying to bring the back to chestnut to
[1:00:01] um United States. So that that might be
pretty cool.
[1:00:04] » It would be cool.
>> Yeah.
[1:00:06] » Um so how much or how do we do this?
We've been buying tree stock for around
[1:00:14] $175 $200. We use a municipal discount.
>> Um the question would be the challenge
[1:00:22] will be sourcing a chest but between now
and October when we plant uh
[1:00:28] » that that sounds like a really small one
is
[1:00:30] » well the best survival rate on a tree is
one and a half to two maybe two and a
[1:00:37] half years. You get the in the best
survival rate on a one and a half inch
[1:00:44] to 2 and 12 inch diameter tree.
>> We always
[1:00:47] » And you we can get those for 150.
>> I did say 150. I said 175 to 200.
[1:00:53] » Excellent. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
[1:00:57] » And we always plant trees in the in the
autumn or in the spring when they have a
[1:01:02] survival chance.
Well, why don't you pick one out and
[1:01:07] bring it to me and we'll cover it on my
budget.
[1:01:10] » Okay. But it'll be like October.
>> That's fine.
[1:01:13] » In the meantime, look.
>> Okay. Thank you. So, it's a good start.
[1:01:18] We'll start with that tonight. Okay.
Thank you. Do we need a motion or just
[1:01:23] Becky just to take it out of my budget?
It's going to be okay.
[1:01:25] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. Um
[1:01:28] » we haven't approved Becky.
>> Do we need to approve?
[1:01:30] » Yeah. I always
>> I got to get you to put that on here.
[1:01:33] Number nine.
>> Thank you. You finished?
[1:01:36] » I'll I'll move to approve the treasury
report as presented.
[1:01:40] » Okay, we have first. Do we have a
second?
[1:01:41] » I'll second.
>> All in favor say I.
[1:01:43] » I. I.
>> Okay. All right. Mike, how about a quick
[1:01:46] GRC update?
>> Nothing. The only thing is is and I
[1:01:49] forget the time. Um,
home to sweet sent out at
[1:01:55] » It's September 21st at 10 a.m.
>> September 21st at You sure it's 10 or is
[1:02:00] it nine?
>> I think it's 10.
[1:02:02] » Okay. But all the council people are
invited to ribbon cutting. Oh yeah, I
[1:02:07] guess I would have it sticks, too.
>> Yeah.
[1:02:09] » So, um, really nice. We'll have a very
nice Hilton hotel that we really
[1:02:15] complement the
>> What day was that? The city.
[1:02:17] » It's the set correction. It's the 17th
of the month at 9:00 a.m.
[1:02:22] » 17th and 9:00 a.m. groundbreaking.
>> No, now you're talking about two things.
[1:02:26] This is the home to sweet. I apologize.
This is a home to sweets
[1:02:31] ribbon cutting. They did not have a
groundbreaking.
[1:02:35] And give me a second here and I'll find
the
[1:02:39] » Here it is.
>> Yeah.
[1:02:40] » Yeah. September 21st at 10:00 a.m. on
site.
[1:02:44] » Yep.
>> So, they the ownership asked that we
[1:02:51] pass it on to the city and the council
and everybody who wants to go. And they
[1:02:56] tell me the views from the fourth floor
of the river are amazing. So that's
[1:03:01] pretty cool.
>> I don't have anything else.
[1:03:02] » Okay.
>> What's the groundbreaking on the 17th?
[1:03:05] » That is the
>> Copper Creek. Got that.
[1:03:10] » Please attend that, too. That'd be
great.
[1:03:13] » Okay. All right. Um
Pam, the police report, please.
[1:03:19] » That August 2026 monthly report. Total
calls for service 528
[1:03:25] uh year-to date 3383
traffic citations 36
[1:03:31] citations year-to date 147
criminal arrest 13
[1:03:38] year to date 91
crash reports 19 crash reports year-to-
[1:03:44] date 101 new case reports 17 case
reports year-to- date 152 two the miles
[1:03:52] patrolled for August 12,715
[1:03:57] um trainings in August taser training
Sergeant Bogs and Officer Miller uh
[1:04:02] standard field sobriety testing training
for our newest officer officer Miller um
[1:04:09] legal mandates that were conducted by
the Darren County Prosecutor's Office
[1:04:13] and all Greenell police officers
attended that.
[1:04:19] » All right. Thank you. Appreciate it.
>> Thank you.
[1:04:22] » Okay. Um Erin, do you want to cover
Greenale Main Street tonight?
[1:04:25] » Uh yeah, for sure. Um so we just had uh
the world's hottest um yard sale
[1:04:31] weekend,
so some people still did get out there.
[1:04:35] Um we have um 14 applications for the
curb reveals. Um so Ryan is working on
[1:04:43] those. Um and the next um event that we
are going to be having is the Rock the
[1:04:50] Block. So um
>> where are you doing it this year?
[1:04:52] » This year it's going to be um at
Homestead.
[1:04:55] » Oh, nice.
>> Um so keep your ears open for um all the
[1:05:00] um new food trucks and the bands that
are going to be out there. I'll be
[1:05:02] posting soon. Um and we do have um if
you have a child 18 years or or under
[1:05:09] and they want to do a talent showcase,
we're having an hour for talent
[1:05:13] showcase. We have a couple of uh kids
already signed up so they can sing um
[1:05:18] play an instrument or dance.
>> Nice.
[1:05:20] » So, and you sign up on the um website,
but um they posted all the schools and
[1:05:24] everything. So, if anybody knows anyone,
I think that's our update.
[1:05:28] » Thank you.
>> Um well,
[1:05:33] Nathaniel or Mary,
my part, and you kind of already gave
[1:05:38] your part in
>> um we had a 60%
[1:05:43] uh technical review last week. Um just
working through some design issues right
[1:05:48] now that should be corrected by 90% and
just kind of moving forward with that.
[1:05:53] Just like I said, just been some
differences of opinions on how we want
[1:05:57] to spend our money and how to proceed
with the construction of it. So
[1:06:00] » yeah, going well. I think it's going
well. Um
[1:06:04] » you see the MS4 update. Um Allan's
looking in the back of the pictures of
[1:06:09] the Valley Woods project could not have
gone any better. It um hats off to
[1:06:14] Nathaniel, Nate, um Randy Schneelt with
complete contractors. It just it was a
[1:06:21] difficult project that they made made
look easy. So, nice job. Very nice job.
[1:06:28] Um water plant evaluation update. I want
to read that to you. Hold on a second.
[1:06:33] It's going to be a find a paper sort of
thing.
[1:06:36] Uh
[1:06:40] Becky had to print off about four
different
[1:06:44] um
[1:06:47] four different
Oh, agendas today. Poor Becky. We we
[1:06:53] killed enough trees today. I
[1:06:57] I have it. So bear with me. Here it is.
Okay. spoke to um Karen Sevidra with
[1:07:05] American Construction Point. They have
scheduled the pump testing with Shawn
[1:07:09] that is going to be done next week. The
at that point at by the end of the month
[1:07:14] they will finalize the basis of design
report which will give an updated cost
[1:07:20] estimate. At that point they will move
into the detailed design which will take
[1:07:24] six to seven months. Um, and when the
plans are at 30%, they will put out a
[1:07:31] request for quote RFQ. What's that?
>> RFP
[1:07:37] » request for proposal.
>> Proposal. She called it RFQ, which I I
[1:07:42] always knew RFP, but I think that's the
idea behind it. So, that's kind of where
[1:07:46] we are with the water plant. All right.
Um, Nathaniel, do you have any other
[1:07:51] updates?
>> Yeah. Uh, I'm sure you guys saw the
[1:07:54] ridge paving project started. Um, should
be done with concrete work this week.
[1:07:59] Then they'll go into patching. Um, then
in the milling and paving and uh
[1:08:03] adjusting castings and final walk
through. Um, I have Ryan Howard right
[1:08:08] now going around doing some
miscellaneous patchwork. Um, complete is
[1:08:12] in Becket Landing fixing a drainage
issue that's going on over there.
[1:08:18] » Um,
>> what about the patching in Becket
[1:08:20] Landing? I know Kurt's
>> Oh, we we've discussed it. So,
[1:08:24] » go ahead. He's working on it.
>> Yeah, I have I said completes fixing
[1:08:27] actual drains issue in the road.
Uh our guys will do some of the
[1:08:32] patchwork actually in Becket Landing.
>> Okay.
[1:08:35] » Um like I said, Ryan Howard, he's doing
some of the patchwork. They're just hard
[1:08:38] for our guys to try and do traffic
patterns around. Um, we've been busy
[1:08:45] reestablishing the sewer main rightway
down behind Bega Landing and the mayor's
[1:08:51] house and all that. Um, that has not
been maintained in quite some time. So
[1:08:58] that basically
starts at like Snelt the back end of
[1:09:02] Snelt runs parallel all the way with
Tanner Creek shoots under Tanner Creek
[1:09:08] up to actually our pump station behind
IvyTech on Industrial Road.
[1:09:12] » Wow.
>> So that's what we've been doing for the
[1:09:15] last two to three weeks is weather
depends and shuffling guys. So once we
[1:09:20] get that done, we're heading over to do
those patches over in Becket Landing. So
[1:09:23] » feels good. And will you keep an eye on
the the patches that um Sycamore did?
[1:09:30] » Yeah, I've I've already talked with
Derek from Sycamore
[1:09:33] » because they've been settling a little
bit.
[1:09:34] » They're all temporary.
>> Oh, they are?
[1:09:36] » I already told him we're not accepting
them.
[1:09:37] » Okay, good.
>> They're they're basically the guys doing
[1:09:40] the actual gas work are just doing
temporary. They'll have another cond
[1:09:44] come in and actually do them.
>> Okay.
[1:09:46] » They were at my house a couple weeks
ago.
[1:09:48] » Yeah,
>> it was a fun fun time.
[1:09:51] » Yeah. Sycamore is trying to get all of
the gas meters out of the basement.
[1:09:57] They've been Yeah. Just It's hard to
believe it's still like that.
[1:10:01] » Hey, Aaron, out of curiosity, has
Sikcore been in contact with you guys
[1:10:05] for the Jones building for those meters?
>> No. Okay.
[1:10:08] » Not that I know.
>> Okay. I just Derek is has asked me in
[1:10:12] conversations and I told him that I I
don't I don't know how
[1:10:15] » Not that I know of. Um
>> that's just down street.
[1:10:21] » Yeah. Yeah, it's got to be done. That's
it's federal mandate.
[1:10:25] Okay, moving to unfinished business. Um,
ordinance 2026-09
[1:10:32] regulating electronic bikes and
scooters, second reading. Um, if
[1:10:37] everybody's good with this, I'd like to
pass this tonight. We had a accident.
[1:10:42] What was that? Two weeks ago, Becky.
um three three I'd say 12 13 14 year
[1:10:50] olds in a pileup. Um the young lady had
a partially collapsed
[1:10:57] lung. She had a concussion
and um she's possibly got a neck
[1:11:04] fracture. She was wearing a brace when I
talked to her last night. So
[1:11:08] » they they all got lucky. Um it could
have been a whole lot worse. So, I'd
[1:11:13] like to have a motion to pass the
ordinance 2026-09.
[1:11:18] » And nothing has changed from last month.
Is that correct?
[1:11:21] » Kind of crazy how much power we don't
have to do.
[1:11:24] » Exactly.
>> You know, it's better than nothing.
[1:11:26] » Yeah. Um, agreed.
>> Okay. Just Yes.
[1:11:31] » Okay.
[1:11:34] » Do we have a motion?
>> I'll make that motion.
[1:11:37] » Okay. Do we have a first? Do we have a
second?
[1:11:41] Yeah, I'll second it.
>> Okay, first second. All in favor say I.
[1:11:46] » I.
>> I.
[1:11:47] » No.
>> Got a nay.
[1:11:49] » Just Aaron.
>> Just Aaron. Okay.
[1:11:52] Um Becky, we're going to on new
business. We're going to move to um your
[1:11:58] BC3 IT provider discussion.
[1:12:03] » Okay.
[1:12:06] You want to pass? You want to move down
to the ordinance? Nope, I'm ready.
[1:12:10] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[1:12:11] » Yep.
>> Um I have been talking to this um BC3 IT
[1:12:16] provider probably for about three or
four months now and we've kind you know
[1:12:22] he's really gotten to know what we need,
what we want and he's been very
[1:12:30] very positive that he can help us
streamline our processes, streamline our
[1:12:35] help tickets,
things like that. and it is a bit at a
[1:12:38] bit of a cost saving. So Aaron attended
a presentation via teams with me last
[1:12:44] week and
I've been impressed with the
[1:12:51] with the company. Um they do specialize
in municipalities which I like because
[1:12:57] we are so unique.
Um,
[1:13:02] and I would like to get this approved if
possible tonight so I can get it worked
[1:13:06] into the budget. And
if anybody has any questions, I know I
[1:13:11] talked to Ryan Johnson a little bit
about it.
[1:13:13] » I wasn't able to attend, but I reviewed
it. I think with cost savings and just
[1:13:17] um having a more corporate
infrastructure is going to benefit the
[1:13:22] city. And
>> I think it's a no-brainer.
[1:13:24] » Yeah, it it definitely seems like a
no-brainer to me, too. Becky, the only
[1:13:28] question I have is did you talk to any
of the municipalities that they're
[1:13:32] handling right now?
>> I have not.
[1:13:34] » Is there anybody locally locally to us?
Anybody in southeastern Indiana that's
[1:13:39] using them?
>> I don't know that. I can look into it.
[1:13:43] » No, that's fine. I mean, I I I trust
you. I don't have any reason.
[1:13:47] » That's who I usually talk to, but they
they have their own internal
[1:13:50] » I think Aaron was there and Aaron you.
>> Yeah. So, I asked them a lot of
[1:13:54] questions. um you know asking you know
what what the lift was going to be on
[1:13:58] Becky and team and you know what it
looked like for implementation and you
[1:14:02] know and just give us the quick and
dirty what what do you see is wrong
[1:14:07] right now and the things they pointed
out they're pretty wrong so we need to
[1:14:11] get those rectified like ASAP
>> I think there's probably a lot of
[1:14:15] downtime we're experiencing where this
is going to make things more efficient I
[1:14:19] know people are worried about like
remote and stuff but this is kind of
[1:14:23] where the industry is going I don't I
think it I think it's going to be
[1:14:26] » Yeah. And they do have boots on the
ground. Um what was it in uh they're not
[1:14:30] too far away like they they will come
down for implementation in person.
[1:14:34] » Um but yeah, I mean I work remote
>> and I have for 10 years. So
[1:14:39] » and most of our health desks today are
remote.
[1:14:42] » Yeah, they're remote anyway, right? So
>> qu quick question I just thought of with
[1:14:47] the GIS system we're doing. I'm assuming
I'm looking at Nathaniel will be
[1:14:53] deploying at some point
iPads, laptops, whatever to
[1:14:58] » Well, they have it on their phones,
don't they?
[1:15:01] » Yeah. But you have to be careful how you
word that because per our union
[1:15:05] contract, we can't make them put it on
their phone,
[1:15:08] » right? Okay. And that's
>> we have we have some employees who
[1:15:10] voluntarily
put it on their phone. Key word,
[1:15:14] voluntary.
But
[1:15:16] » well, no, I mean that's it's that's it's
serious because you get into contract
[1:15:19] issues. Um,
>> but being said that
[1:15:23] » the phone that they the guys who did it
on their phone, not a not everybody can
[1:15:27] do it because it's a subscription. The
ones who did it, it's really just I'm in
[1:15:31] a pinch. Maybe it can help me for a
second. It's really not your phone isn't
[1:15:36] » optimal. Yeah.
>> You have to have an iPad.
[1:15:38] » Yeah. And right now this
>> one of the things that they talked about
[1:15:42] was that they will they will have a
policy. Everybody will go through the
[1:15:46] trainings for all of the fraud, the
fishing, fishing, all of that. Um and
[1:15:52] anything anything that you guys need to
set up, they would do that.
[1:15:55] » I mean, I think that should be the
ultimate goal is for certain personnel
[1:15:59] to have
>> iPads, but in internally we're not there
[1:16:03] yet. There are some things we need to
kind of I think adjust.
[1:16:06] » That's fine. I just didn't know if the
question was asked to make sure that
[1:16:08] that would
>> it was good. It said they would support
[1:16:10] you know desktops, mobile.
>> Okay.
[1:16:13] » Oh yeah, we asked I asked specifically
about the iPads.
[1:16:16] » Are the iPads we have now compatible?
>> So it's not compatibility of those
[1:16:21] iPads.
>> Council had them,
[1:16:25] » right? But
>> what I'm saying is take them out of
[1:16:28] council's hand and give them to them. We
don't use them.
[1:16:31] » I don't know what you guys use, but I
>> Well, that's another thing, too. We
[1:16:34] we're paying internet for all of those
iPads right now.
[1:16:39] » We don't use them.
>> I mean, I don't I don't Everything comes
[1:16:41] in my
>> Well, and I think that we can talk about
[1:16:43] in our budget session. Absolutely. But
>> we can do that later. That's fine. If if
[1:16:47] they're compatible, I'd be more than
welcome to go and give them out. Well, I
[1:16:50] I think
>> they're probably dated.
[1:16:53] » Becky's biggest concern. She would like
to probably get rid of the the internet
[1:17:00] over the phone c connectivity about it.
Right.
[1:17:04] » That's where you'd like to start.
>> Yeah.
[1:17:06] » Because most people have internet at
their homes. They don't need it.
[1:17:10] » Right. Absolutely.
>> Yeah. So,
[1:17:11] » Becky, do you want a motion from us
tonight or this already sits kind of
[1:17:14] within the framework of our budget
anyway? Um, do you need anything from us
[1:17:18] this evening?
>> I'd just like maybe a motion just so I
[1:17:22] feel better.
>> Yeah. Uh, I would I would make a motion
[1:17:25] to uh approve the VC3 uh proposal uh for
technology upgrades. Okay, we have a
[1:17:33] first. Do we have a second?
>> I'll second.
[1:17:34] » All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:17:36] » Okay. Motion carries. Thank you.
>> Um Becky, you'd like to discuss some
[1:17:40] dates?
>> Yes. Um, as usual, I'm way behind on the
[1:17:46] budget
>> and I would like to schedule
[1:17:50] a budget workshop
[1:17:54] » sometime between the 21st
and September 2nd.
[1:18:01] » How October second. Okay.
>> All right. So, what what what were the
[1:18:06] dates? Sorry.
>> Um, Monday, September 21st to October
[1:18:11] 2nd. I am unavailable any of that time.
So, sorry.
[1:18:15] » Okay.
>> I'm I'm literally gone.
[1:18:18] » Uh
>> that doesn't you know
[1:18:21] » do what you got to do. It's good to me
best.
[1:18:23] » We're starting to get close to the
deadlines where we have to do our
[1:18:26] » I know. But
>> what about the 23rd? Everybody
[1:18:31] available. It's a Wednesday.
>> Yep. I'm good with that. I'm good.
[1:18:37] » Okay. Becky, does that work for you?
>> That would be wonderful. What time
[1:18:41] » do we want to do? 5:00 PM or 6 p.m.
Whatever.
[1:18:43] » You tell us. What? Becky, we'll be
there. What time?
[1:18:48] » Do 5m. That way you guys aren't here
forever.
[1:18:51] » Yeah. Okay. 5:00 p.m. What day? Becky,
can you get can you get with me the week
[1:18:56] before so I can
>> Yes.
[1:18:59] » look at that in depth and give you my
>> Yes. I was going to say my goal is to
[1:19:03] have um a draft to everyone about a week
before the
[1:19:07] » Okay. Okay. before the meeting and that
way you guys can a little bit. Yeah.
[1:19:12] » Would you put out a um invitation for
everybody
[1:19:15] » please? Thank you.
>> Okay. One of the things I was going to
[1:19:20] say about the um changing the IT
providers, we with the company we're
[1:19:26] with now, we are a very small fish in an
incredibly large sea
[1:19:31] » and we just don't
we we're just having trouble getting
[1:19:36] anything done. So, anything that we can
do to make Becky's life better, and you
[1:19:40] guys have already done that, so we're
all in.
[1:19:42] » Yeah. Okay. Um,
we need to pass these tonight. So, we're
[1:19:48] we're going to do a first and second
reading, but to do that, we have to um
[1:19:53] wave a second reading. Um, Nick, I don't
think you've ever been part of one of
[1:19:56] these yet. So, how this works is to
wave, we have to make it unanimous on
[1:20:03] the wave, right? Y
>> but it doesn't have to be NASPA on the
[1:20:05] rea.
>> Okay.
[1:20:07] » All right. So, so what we're going to do
part of our ochre grant, we need to have
[1:20:13] a we need to um declare Greenale, city
of Greenale um a drug-free workplace.
[1:20:21] So, this would be ordinance 2026-10
um declaring Greenale to be a drug-free
[1:20:27] workplace.
>> I think that's a state mandate now
[1:20:29] anyway.
>> It is. It is. So, we we just can't find
[1:20:33] the paperwork. We probably have done it
in the past, but we're going to clean
[1:20:36] things up tonight.
>> So, I need to make it a I need to wave
[1:20:42] um the second reading.
>> I make a motion to wave the second
[1:20:47] reading reading on ordinance number
2026-10,
[1:20:51] a drug-free workplace.
>> Okay. Um
[1:20:53] » I'll second it.
>> Got to f well first and second
[1:20:57] » and wave
>> for the wave. Dave,
[1:21:00] » hi
>> Aaron.
[1:21:01] » Hi,
>> Kurt.
[1:21:02] » Hi,
>> Mike.
[1:21:03] » Hi,
>> Ryan.
[1:21:05] » Hi,
>> and Nick.
[1:21:06] » I Okay. All right. So, now we need to
make the motion to pass ordinance
[1:21:11] 2026-10.
Um, declaring Greenale to be a drug-free
[1:21:16] workplace.
>> Some moved.
[1:21:17] » Got a first.
>> Second.
[1:21:19] » All in favor say I.
>> I. I.
[1:21:20] » Okay. Motion carries. Thank you.
All right.
[1:21:25] Um, Mary, I'd like you to speak about
this one real quick. This is ordinance
[1:21:29] 2026-11
the fair housing.
[1:21:33] » So um just like the drug free workplace
over require requires communities that
[1:21:38] receive their funding to have a fair
housing ordinance in place. As with the
[1:21:42] drug free workplace ordinance, these are
boiler plate. They provide
[1:21:46] » us to provide to communities. That's
what it is. So same thing as the drug
[1:21:51] free housing um that the boiler plate
document that requires if you had
[1:21:56] something on hand. I don't know if you
did or you didn't. If you did not, you
[1:22:00] can adopt this.
>> We We did. I think we just put our
[1:22:02] header on it. Is that correct, Becky?
>> Anthony did the ordinances. I did the
[1:22:08] rest.
>> Okay. So,
[1:22:09] » yes, I think that's him. He included the
highlight yesterday and they may over
[1:22:15] they may come back with a question. If
they do, we'll come back.
[1:22:17] » Okay.
>> I'm I'm pretty familiar with this one.
[1:22:19] So, I would uh make a motion to wave the
second reading of 2026-11.
[1:22:25] » Okay. that we have a first. We have a
second.
[1:22:27] » I'll second that.
>> Okay. Dave,
[1:22:29] » I
>> Aaron,
[1:22:30] » hi.
>> Kurt,
[1:22:31] » hi.
>> Mike,
[1:22:32] » I
>> Ryan,
[1:22:33] » I
>> Nick, I Okay. Um, we need to come back
[1:22:36] with a motion to pass ordinance 2026-11.
Got a first. Do we have a second?
[1:22:43] » Second.
>> All in favor say I.
[1:22:45] » I. A motion carries. Okay, one more
resolution
[1:22:50] uh 2026-11 authorizing the application
submission and a local match commitment.
[1:22:56] Mary,
>> yeah,
[1:22:59] but basically um same require
I have a question. Is is this a
[1:23:08] » continuation of the one we just passed
or because it's the same number?
[1:23:11] » No, it's a resolution.
>> A resolution. Okay.
[1:23:13] » But the other one was the ordinance and
this is a resolution.
[1:23:16] No problem.
>> This is a um
[1:23:21] the requirement that the communities
that are applying for and receiving the
[1:23:24] funding authorized per federal code
submitting the application gives the
[1:23:30] mayor the authority to submit the
application that's what we're helping
[1:23:34] you all with. Um and then committing the
local match which is the 500,000 from
[1:23:39] the green red green development
commission and 1875 from the city of
[1:23:44] Greenale. So it's authorizing the
applications middle and commitment.
[1:23:52] » This is made right.
>> Yeah. Redevelopment actually had to pass
[1:23:56] their own
>> res.
[1:23:59] I'll move to approve.
>> Okay. We have a
[1:24:02] » second.
>> Second. All in favor say I.
[1:24:05] » I.
>> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Council, please
[1:24:09] do not leave without making sure all
these documents are signed. um coming
[1:24:14] your way.
>> Mary comes from her sales and
[1:24:16] » Becky's been speed running them down to
us. So, we're doing pretty good so far.
[1:24:21] » You just she'll make a copy for you.
>> Well, you probably want the original
[1:24:25] start passing right away.
>> You already got them in my mind. All
[1:24:27] right. I do need I need do need a motion
to adjurnn.
[1:24:31] » Motion to adjurnn.
>> Got it. First, do we have a second?
[1:24:34] » Second.
>> All in favor say I. I.
[1:24:36] » Okay. Thank you all.
>> There you go.
[1:24:39] » Thank you.
>> Take that.
[1:24:45] Okay. Okay. Becky, are we signing