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Hey, Greenville, welcome to

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another episode of

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Greenville Eats.

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My name is Ashley.

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I'm your host, and we are here

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with Jonathan Bryant from the

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Community Engagement Division.

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How are you, Jonathan?

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I'm doing great.

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Yay! I'm so excited

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to have you here.

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So welcome to the show.

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Tell us first and foremost a

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little bit about what you do

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for the city of Greenville.

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Okay. So for the city of

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Greenville, I'm the community

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engagement specialist.

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And I go out in the community

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and engage with citizens,

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business owners and community

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leaders to help figure out

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their point of view and to see

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different ways that those can

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be implemented within the city.

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Yes, you're out and

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about all the time.

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All the time.

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That's like matches your

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personality like perfectly.

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Because you I just never

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see you without a smile.

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And you never you don't

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ever ignore people.

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Like, if you see somebody,

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you're gonna stop

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and talk to them.

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You have to speak.

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No, I don't have to.

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That's true, that's true.

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No. But that's just so

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great for your personality.

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I love it so much.

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So, um, and how long

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have you been doing that?

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For now.

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So I've been doing

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that since JANUARY.

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Okay. Yep.

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And and I really love it.

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Yeah. That's so cool.

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So let's get into this

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because it smells amazing.

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So what have you

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made for us today.

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So this is a Korean beef bowl.

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Uh, it's made with ground beef

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and rice, spring onions and a

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couple spices.

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That's awesome.

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So before we dig into this,

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we're gonna go sit down and

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have a chat with J.B.,

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and we'll be right back.

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All right.

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Welcome back.

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So we are still here with jb.

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We are getting ready to dig

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into this delicious meal.

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Um, before we do that.

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No. Jb so let's talk a little

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bit about your personal life.

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So let people relate to

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you on a personal level.

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So you recently just brought

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a little bundle of joy?

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I did.

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I did a little

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baby, Jordan Grace.

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She's wonderful.

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She decided to come

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a little early.

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Uh, her her original birthday

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was going to be FEBRUARY 14th.

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Mhm. Uh, she came DECEMBER 21st.

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What girl come down?

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What are you doing?

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She traded one

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holiday for another.

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She was excited about Santa.

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And she was here.

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time, a great journey.

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Yeah. Uh, the first, you know,

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real challenge was like, you

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know, having her go to daycare

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and be away from

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us initially, so.

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Yeah. Um, but it's been great.

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She's been loving it.

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Yeah. They sent her pictures

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of us, her smiling and all

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different types of stuff.

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She's so cute.

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a great time, so.

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That's so awesome.

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Well, congratulations.

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Thank you.

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Um, and just to, you know,

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I know this is a, you know,

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that's a great part of it, but

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this part to golf.

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Oh, golf.

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Brian always makes fun of me

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because sports go

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sports, and so.

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Okay. So tell us about

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your love of golf.

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Um, I got into golf for my dad.

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huge size difference.

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So he was like basketball.

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Football? None of that.

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So, uh, he decided on golf.

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of technique, a lot of skill.

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big and strong on that, I

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wouldn't be willing

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to put in the time.

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But Covid happened, and I had

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nothing but time all the time.

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seven handicap, so.

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I know what that means.

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relationship to, uh, par, which

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is 72.

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I've ever shot is a 78 or 79.

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numbers between 72 and 79.

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handicap over 20 rounds.

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same in putt putt.

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We can add putt putt.

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handicap system for putt putt.

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put that together.

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that, but um, but also putt

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putt and mini golf

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are typically dance.

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I know more.

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you knew anything about that,

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but I had always heard that,

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like, putt putt mini golf were

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not real golf at all.

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part is, you know, they both,

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you know, if they are both

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different, they both share a

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common thing in putting.

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is a really big skill in golf

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because that's where a lot

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of your score comes from.

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Yeah. So they say if you can

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get really good at putting,

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you'll be really good.

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decent at golf.

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I don't know how true

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Me. Well, how good

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are you at one?

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But, I mean, I like to

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think I'm good, but.

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that's the case, then.

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But it's also like, you know,

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beach town putt putt places, so.

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Well, I mean, that's also the

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best place to play golf goes to

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the beach.

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sailor's new hobby.

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Activated that part.

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You can do both.

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All right, let's jump into this

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because I'm excited to give

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this a try.

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All right, let's see.

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And I haven't even had

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lunch as I'm so excited.

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Mhm. Mhm.

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I'd love to see you soon.

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And this is good.

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different vegetables.

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different ground meats you

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Yeah. Could you use ground beef.

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turkey or ground chicken.

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I like that.

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This is delicious.

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leftover for me to

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take back to them.

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Well thank you so much.

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I love having you on.

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This has been great.

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It's been great.

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Sorry. You can take a breath.

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You can.

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Thank you so much

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for joining us.

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So I'm very happy to have you.

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So thank you all for watching

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and we will see you on the next

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episode of everybody.

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Hey what's up Greenville?

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Welcome to another episode

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of Greenville Eats.

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My name is Ashley and today we

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have Dominique from our human

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resources department.

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Idomeneo. How are you doing?

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Good. How are you?

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I'm excited to have you on

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because you are one of my top

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three human resources people

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that I'm just obsessed with.

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Don't tell anybody.

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Well, yeah, well, I said top

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three for a reason, but I

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didn't want to like anyway, so.

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Okay, so first and foremost,

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welcome to the show.

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I'm so, so excited to have

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you before we jump into this,

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because I'm super excited about

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this, let's talk real quick

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about what you do in hr

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for the city of Greenville.

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So I'm an hr specialist three

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seven years now, which

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doesn't feel like it at all.

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recreation and parks with

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their part time staff.

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I do a lot of employee

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programs, such as computer

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purchase, tuition assistance,

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as well as like gift cards and

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wellness incentives.

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Shout out!

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Use all of those.

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Yes, and.

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Now they do help employees

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with their fmla as well.

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So I kind of have a

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mix of everything.

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Okay. All right.

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Cool okay.

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So that's awesome.

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And when do you when

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did you hit seven years.

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I will be seven years in AUGUST.

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Oh is it right around

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the corner there.

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Okay, cool I love that.

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Congrats. Um, so let's jump

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into this because

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I'm so excited.

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I love a good empanada.

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So tell us what you're making.

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Why did you decide

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on this recipe?

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And then, like, I guess

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about your ingredients.

321
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Because I eat so good.

322
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Well, my family is

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Puerto Rican, so.

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But I'm also, I joke and say I

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don't speak Spanish, so I'm a

326
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no sabo child, unfortunately.

327
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Well, it's the same.

328
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So my little Domingo

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every once in a while.

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Um, but this is one of the

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things that my mom used to

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make, and my dad used to make

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every single time when it was,

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like, a quick meal.

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Um, so empanadas was kind of

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dear to my heart

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because of that.

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Um, so I do a lot of people

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can do the dough from scratch.

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I like to do quick and

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easy, so this is better.

342
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But I have the dough.

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I do adobo sauce on and then I

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made my own sofrito, which is

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more like onions, peppers, a

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little bit of salsa flavoring

347
00:17:03,966 --> 00:17:04,833
and vinegar.

348
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And then I can do ground beef.

349
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I usually do ground turkey

350
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because my boyfriend likes

351
00:17:08,804 --> 00:17:10,205
turkey more than beef.

352
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Um, fry it in some oil.

353
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And then I made a mayo

354
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ketchup dipping sauce.

355
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Cool. Awesome.

356
00:17:15,977 --> 00:17:16,545
I'm so excited.

357
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This place is about

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to smell amazing.

359
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So. Okay, so let's we're gonna

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jump into cooking, and we'll be

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back in just a

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little bit with more.

363
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Perfect.

364
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Okay, so as I predicted,

365
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it smells amazing in here.

366
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Dominique has made us some beef

367
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empanadas, and we've got you.

368
00:18:06,929 --> 00:18:09,831
So this is ketchup and

369
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mayonnaise and adobo.

370
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Yeah.

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Mayo, ketchup.

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I love it.

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So we are gonna go sit down and

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have a chat and enjoy empanadas.

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I'm so excited.

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Me too.

377
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Let's go.

378
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Hey.

379
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All right.

380
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It's the moment of truth.

381
00:18:26,748 --> 00:18:29,351
Let's dig in to these empanadas.

382
00:18:29,351 --> 00:18:30,520
I'm so excited.

383
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You first.

384
00:18:30,686 --> 00:18:30,986
Wait. Which ones

385
00:18:30,986 --> 00:18:32,387
were this was I.

386
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Doesn't matter.

387
00:18:33,210 --> 00:18:33,856
I don't care.

388
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Yeah. Yeah.

389
00:18:34,523 --> 00:18:34,823
Okay. And then we

390
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have your sauce.

391
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We got to get a little sauce.

392
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And so while we are

393
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digging into this that I know

394
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is going to be amazing because

395
00:18:42,965 --> 00:18:43,532
it smells amazing.

396
00:18:43,532 --> 00:18:43,932
Let's talk a little

397
00:18:43,932 --> 00:18:45,670
bit about you.

398
00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:46,268
So like, tell me

399
00:18:46,268 --> 00:18:47,360
something about yourself.

400
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Like what do you like to

401
00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:48,403
do in your spare time?

402
00:18:48,403 --> 00:18:49,338
It's funny, I'm actually I'm a

403
00:18:49,338 --> 00:18:50,238
people person at work, but I'm

404
00:18:50,238 --> 00:18:52,700
really reserved at home, so I

405
00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:55,100
usually like to chill with a

406
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:55,911
nice little book.

407
00:18:55,911 --> 00:18:57,880
I'm a nerd for Nintendo Switch.

408
00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,614
Disney Dreamlight is my game,

409
00:18:58,614 --> 00:18:59,782
my little cozy game

410
00:18:59,782 --> 00:19:01,782
or Animal Crossing?

411
00:19:02,685 --> 00:19:03,586
Oh my GOD, really?

412
00:19:03,586 --> 00:19:04,860
That's amazing.

413
00:19:04,860 --> 00:19:04,520
Um, and then I do

414
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,520
like planting also.

415
00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:09,525
And other things too.

416
00:19:09,525 --> 00:19:11,526
Like like just plants, like in.

417
00:19:11,526 --> 00:19:12,594
Or do you like garden?

418
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Like fruits, veggies or not?

419
00:19:14,429 --> 00:19:15,397
That's really good.

420
00:19:15,397 --> 00:19:16,265
But I have a few plants.

421
00:19:16,265 --> 00:19:16,798
Like I have a monster plant

422
00:19:16,798 --> 00:19:18,798
that's surprisingly growing

423
00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:19,868
really good.

424
00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:20,302
Okay, but I kill everything

425
00:19:20,302 --> 00:19:21,703
else, so that's crazy.

426
00:19:21,703 --> 00:19:24,406
I just do succulents because

427
00:19:24,406 --> 00:19:27,309
it's really hard to kill them.

428
00:19:27,309 --> 00:19:28,210
I've killed succulents.

429
00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:29,100
I have to I'm not

430
00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,100
saying I haven't.

431
00:19:32,181 --> 00:19:33,382
But I have.

432
00:19:33,382 --> 00:19:33,949
But yeah, so surprisingly, my

433
00:19:33,949 --> 00:19:34,649
my share is still doing good.

434
00:19:34,649 --> 00:19:36,719
I've had her for five years,

435
00:19:36,719 --> 00:19:37,285
so she's really big, growing

436
00:19:37,285 --> 00:19:39,355
really well, and I'm

437
00:19:39,355 --> 00:19:40,220
about to propagate her.

438
00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:41,389
So that way I can

439
00:19:41,389 --> 00:19:42,924
make another plant.

440
00:19:42,924 --> 00:19:44,627
Oh my GOD, that's so exciting.

441
00:19:44,627 --> 00:19:46,194
So I'm excited for that.

442
00:19:46,194 --> 00:19:46,795
That's awesome I love that.

443
00:19:46,795 --> 00:19:47,963
Um, what kind of books

444
00:19:47,963 --> 00:19:50,465
do you like to read?

445
00:19:50,465 --> 00:19:52,134
We are in book club together.

446
00:19:52,134 --> 00:19:53,100
I do, yeah.

447
00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:53,569
So we have we've read a lot

448
00:19:53,569 --> 00:19:56,400
of like really random stuff in

449
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:56,772
book club, but like, what's

450
00:19:56,772 --> 00:19:57,539
your go to outside of book club?

451
00:19:57,539 --> 00:19:58,674
Well, it's funny, I'm since I'm

452
00:19:58,674 --> 00:20:01,743
an avid reader, I don't have

453
00:20:01,743 --> 00:20:02,344
really a genre that I like.

454
00:20:02,344 --> 00:20:03,111
So what I do is you guys

455
00:20:03,111 --> 00:20:03,879
always make fun of me.

456
00:20:03,879 --> 00:20:05,680
If the title and the book cover

457
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,685
gets me, I'll pick it up and

458
00:20:09,685 --> 00:20:10,419
read it.

459
00:20:10,419 --> 00:20:10,952
The cover opens me up to other

460
00:20:10,952 --> 00:20:11,487
things that I like to read.

461
00:20:11,487 --> 00:20:12,988
The cover is yeah,

462
00:20:12,988 --> 00:20:13,689
that's the thing.

463
00:20:13,689 --> 00:20:15,390
Now I'm a big like

464
00:20:15,390 --> 00:20:16,491
rom com girly,

465
00:20:16,491 --> 00:20:17,693
but you know, the

466
00:20:17,693 --> 00:20:19,962
cover does get me.

467
00:20:19,962 --> 00:20:21,964
If the cover is cute, I'm

468
00:20:21,964 --> 00:20:24,366
gonna I'm gonna pick it up.

469
00:20:24,366 --> 00:20:26,635
So I do love a good mystery.

470
00:20:26,635 --> 00:20:27,402
Oh, really?

471
00:20:27,402 --> 00:20:28,136
Yeah, I like history.

472
00:20:28,136 --> 00:20:28,738
I like the ones that when you

473
00:20:28,738 --> 00:20:29,371
read it till the end, you don't

474
00:20:29,371 --> 00:20:30,772
realize that the end is

475
00:20:30,772 --> 00:20:31,240
going to be that way.

476
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,708
Yeah, like those

477
00:20:32,708 --> 00:20:33,576
type of mysteries.

478
00:20:33,576 --> 00:20:34,750
Like the one Frieda McFadden

479
00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:37,313
book we read in book club.

480
00:20:37,313 --> 00:20:38,313
That got me.

481
00:20:38,313 --> 00:20:39,347
That twist at the end.

482
00:20:39,347 --> 00:20:40,115
That got me.

483
00:20:40,115 --> 00:20:41,160
That was crazy.

484
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,550
I feel like the book Silent

485
00:20:41,550 --> 00:20:45,200
Patient is also one of those

486
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books by her.

487
00:20:45,821 --> 00:20:46,689
Was it by Frida McFadden?

488
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I can't remember the author,

489
00:20:47,222 --> 00:20:47,823
but it was also another one

490
00:20:47,823 --> 00:20:48,958
that at the end you're

491
00:20:48,958 --> 00:20:50,525
like, what in the world?

492
00:20:50,525 --> 00:20:51,660
Never would have thought of it.

493
00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:52,761
Thrown for a loop.

494
00:20:52,761 --> 00:20:54,960
That's so crazy.

495
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I love that.

496
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That's exciting though.

497
00:20:55,998 --> 00:20:57,565
Let's let's dig in.

498
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Let's see.

499
00:20:58,333 --> 00:20:59,201
Let's see about this.

500
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I'm. I'm so pumped.

501
00:20:59,769 --> 00:21:01,436
i also haven't eaten

502
00:21:01,436 --> 00:21:03,338
lunch yet, so that helps.

503
00:21:03,338 --> 00:21:03,972
Me neither.

504
00:21:03,972 --> 00:21:05,972
Okay.

505
00:21:06,742 --> 00:21:08,210
Mm

506
00:21:08,210 --> 00:21:10,210
mm mm mm.

507
00:21:10,779 --> 00:21:12,481
Happy dance.

508
00:21:12,481 --> 00:21:13,182
Yeah.

509
00:21:13,182 --> 00:21:15,182
Mm.

510
00:21:17,953 --> 00:21:18,987
That's amazing.

511
00:21:18,987 --> 00:21:19,788
Thank you.

512
00:21:19,788 --> 00:21:21,788
Very quick.

513
00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:23,391
Easy to make.

514
00:21:23,391 --> 00:21:24,125
So just.

515
00:21:24,125 --> 00:21:24,559
I'm gonna just take

516
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,959
this for, uh, leftovers.

517
00:21:27,797 --> 00:21:28,263
Thank you.

518
00:21:28,263 --> 00:21:28,663
You're more than

519
00:21:28,663 --> 00:21:30,232
welcome to take it.

520
00:21:30,232 --> 00:21:31,100
I can make plenty more at home.

521
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:32,670
There's a lot of beef

522
00:21:32,670 --> 00:21:34,103
leftover, too, so I might just.

523
00:21:34,103 --> 00:21:35,638
You know, take some extra.

524
00:21:35,638 --> 00:21:36,905
Oh, my GOD, that's so good.

525
00:21:36,905 --> 00:21:37,673
Thank you.

526
00:21:37,673 --> 00:21:38,140
So thank you so much for

527
00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:40,242
coming on and chatting.

528
00:21:40,242 --> 00:21:40,976
Of course, telling us a little

529
00:21:40,976 --> 00:21:41,309
bit about your job,

530
00:21:41,309 --> 00:21:42,110
extracurriculars.

531
00:21:42,110 --> 00:21:43,245
Sorry, I'm trying to not be

532
00:21:43,245 --> 00:21:46,245
gross, but also, um, okay.

533
00:21:48,583 --> 00:21:49,384
So thank you.

534
00:21:49,384 --> 00:21:49,852
I appreciate you so much.

535
00:21:49,852 --> 00:21:50,786
Also, again, top

536
00:21:50,786 --> 00:21:53,186
three, top three hr.

537
00:21:54,556 --> 00:21:55,590
Humans I love you.

538
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:56,458
Thank you for having me.

539
00:21:56,458 --> 00:21:57,580
Yes.

540
00:21:57,580 --> 00:21:57,793
Okay.

541
00:21:57,793 --> 00:21:58,360
Um, thank you guys so much for

542
00:21:58,360 --> 00:21:59,270
joining us for another episode

543
00:21:59,270 --> 00:22:00,328
of Greenville Eats, and we

544
00:22:00,328 --> 00:22:04,333
will be back soon to bring you

545
00:22:04,333 --> 00:22:05,868
something sweet.

546
00:22:05,868 --> 00:22:07,868
Bye bye.

547
00:22:21,583 --> 00:22:22,351
No bloopers.

548
00:22:22,351 --> 00:22:23,352
Okay.

549
00:22:23,352 --> 00:22:26,588
Whatever you need to do to.

550
00:22:26,588 --> 00:22:27,156
Cause, you know, I'm gonna be a

551
00:22:27,156 --> 00:22:29,910
little intense because I'm not

552
00:22:29,910 --> 00:22:29,658
used to it.

553
00:22:29,658 --> 00:22:30,559
You're good.

554
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:32,559
You will.

555
00:22:32,995 --> 00:22:34,362
Be like, okay, now.

556
00:22:34,362 --> 00:22:35,300
Be like Dom.

557
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:35,330
Come on, lighten

558
00:22:35,330 --> 00:22:37,320
up a little bit.

559
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,133
We'll give you a bonus.

560
00:22:38,133 --> 00:22:38,867
I'll give you my

561
00:22:38,867 --> 00:22:40,867
biometric screen.

562
00:22:41,503 --> 00:22:45,103
I'll give you my gift card.

563
00:22:47,876 --> 00:22:48,643
There you go.

564
00:22:48,643 --> 00:22:49,411
Okay. I'm trying.

565
00:22:49,411 --> 00:22:49,878
What is she used to do

566
00:22:49,878 --> 00:22:52,278
with high school music?

567
00:34:19,634 --> 00:34:20,368
Okay, now I

568
00:34:20,368 --> 00:34:21,803
m going to call the

569
00:34:21,803 --> 00:34:21,936
meeting to order, and we

570
00:34:21,936 --> 00:34:23,936
re

571
00:34:24,606 --> 00:34:26,508
going to do roll call. Andrew

572
00:34:26,508 --> 00:34:28,508
Morehead. Present.

573
00:34:29,144 --> 00:34:31,544
David Dennard present. Matthew

574
00:34:32,914 --> 00:34:35,314
Cox, Wiley. Handcock. Susan

575
00:34:36,650 --> 00:34:39,500
Daughtry. Sir Sidney McLeod.

576
00:34:40,421 --> 00:34:42,821
Rebecca smith. Kamari. Carter.

577
00:34:45,226 --> 00:34:47,562
Green. We have quorum.

578
00:34:47,562 --> 00:34:49,531
All right, so as I looked at

579
00:34:49,531 --> 00:34:53,131
the agenda, do we have an

580
00:34:53,735 --> 00:34:55,102
approval? Are you ready?

581
00:34:55,102 --> 00:34:55,237
Approval.

582
00:34:55,237 --> 00:34:56,371
I

583
00:34:56,371 --> 00:34:56,504
ll move. Approval.

584
00:34:56,504 --> 00:34:57,338
I

585
00:34:57,338 --> 00:34:59,338
ll.

586
00:35:00,174 --> 00:35:01,610
Okay. Thank you. Um.

587
00:35:01,610 --> 00:35:04,579
We have to vote on that.

588
00:35:04,579 --> 00:35:06,979
Uh, so everybody agreed.

589
00:35:08,283 --> 00:35:10,283
I.

590
00:35:15,523 --> 00:35:16,257
Um, thanks for that. Um, Scott.

591
00:35:16,257 --> 00:35:16,724
See?

592
00:35:16,724 --> 00:35:16,891
No.

593
00:35:16,891 --> 00:35:17,525
He

594
00:35:17,525 --> 00:35:18,393
s not here.

595
00:35:18,393 --> 00:35:19,327
He sent us. I

596
00:35:19,327 --> 00:35:20,270
ll step in for

597
00:35:20,270 --> 00:35:22,270
him.

598
00:35:22,263 --> 00:35:22,530
Okay.

599
00:35:22,530 --> 00:35:23,632
You don

600
00:35:23,632 --> 00:35:24,999
t have anything for ex

601
00:35:24,999 --> 00:35:25,666
parte. So.

602
00:35:25,666 --> 00:35:25,834
Okay.

603
00:35:25,834 --> 00:35:27,200
You

604
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:27,235
re on. Okay. Move forward.

605
00:35:27,235 --> 00:35:28,369
We don

606
00:35:28,369 --> 00:35:30,338
t have to close.

607
00:35:30,338 --> 00:35:32,740
Okay. So, is there anybody have

608
00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:34,375
time to look at the minutes?

609
00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:36,544
And do we have approval for the

610
00:35:36,544 --> 00:35:36,678
minutes for APRIL 28th?

611
00:35:36,678 --> 00:35:37,912
I

612
00:35:37,912 --> 00:35:38,112
ll vote approval. I

613
00:35:38,112 --> 00:35:39,280
ll

614
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,280
second.

615
00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:44,719
Uh, is there anybody in

616
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,719
accordance?

617
00:35:48,489 --> 00:35:49,590
I.

618
00:35:49,590 --> 00:35:50,525
Okay. So we

619
00:35:50,525 --> 00:35:52,925
re gonna have a

620
00:35:53,361 --> 00:35:54,795
public comment, period. Uh, the

621
00:35:54,795 --> 00:35:56,364
public comment period is a

622
00:35:56,364 --> 00:35:58,333
period reserved for comments by

623
00:35:58,333 --> 00:35:59,801
the public. Items that are

624
00:35:59,801 --> 00:36:01,168
subject of a public hearing

625
00:36:01,168 --> 00:36:03,538
this week shall not be

626
00:36:03,538 --> 00:36:05,273
discussed. A total of 30

627
00:36:05,273 --> 00:36:07,275
minutes is allocated for each

628
00:36:07,275 --> 00:36:08,676
individual being allowed no

629
00:36:08,676 --> 00:36:10,645
more than three minutes.

630
00:36:10,645 --> 00:36:12,460
Individuals who register to

631
00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:15,160
speak will speak in the order

632
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,416
Register until the allotted 30

633
00:36:17,485 --> 00:36:19,220
minutes expires. If time

634
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,288
remains after all, persons who

635
00:36:20,288 --> 00:36:21,556
registered have spoken,

636
00:36:21,556 --> 00:36:23,123
individuals who did not

637
00:36:23,123 --> 00:36:24,692
register will have an

638
00:36:24,692 --> 00:36:27,692
opportunity to speak into the

639
00:36:30,331 --> 00:36:32,331
allocated 30 minutes. Expires.

640
00:36:33,334 --> 00:36:34,769
We have.

641
00:36:34,769 --> 00:36:36,769
Rushing forward.

642
00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,380
So new business.

643
00:36:48,983 --> 00:36:51,383
Good afternoon. Commission. Um.

644
00:36:51,419 --> 00:36:53,955
Today I am going to talk to you

645
00:36:53,955 --> 00:36:56,230
about the rules of procedure.

646
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:57,158
We, um. In APRIL, we had our

647
00:36:57,158 --> 00:36:59,927
first reading of the Rules of

648
00:36:59,927 --> 00:37:00,595
procedure. And, um, spoke about

649
00:37:00,595 --> 00:37:01,620
the revisions. I

650
00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:02,730
ll go over

651
00:37:02,730 --> 00:37:04,632
those again today. Um, but your

652
00:37:04,632 --> 00:37:07,368
rules of procedure for hpc set

653
00:37:07,368 --> 00:37:08,603
your agenda item order. They

654
00:37:08,603 --> 00:37:10,872
set how you conduct business

655
00:37:10,872 --> 00:37:12,720
and how you approve CEOs. Um,

656
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,842
these were last revised in

657
00:37:14,842 --> 00:37:17,478
2023. Um, so not too long ago,

658
00:37:17,478 --> 00:37:18,913
but we had a couple updates.

659
00:37:18,913 --> 00:37:19,848
Um, those updates, I know we

660
00:37:19,848 --> 00:37:19,980
went over them last time, but

661
00:37:19,980 --> 00:37:21,582
I

662
00:37:21,582 --> 00:37:24,582
ll just refresh your memory.

663
00:37:24,652 --> 00:37:25,886
Um, the Planning and

664
00:37:25,886 --> 00:37:26,955
Development Services department

665
00:37:26,955 --> 00:37:28,155
has now changed their name to

666
00:37:28,155 --> 00:37:29,557
the Community and Development

667
00:37:29,557 --> 00:37:30,658
Services Department. So that

668
00:37:30,658 --> 00:37:33,962
will be a change that will need

669
00:37:33,962 --> 00:37:35,329
to be made. Um, with the

670
00:37:35,329 --> 00:37:36,898
advancement of our public

671
00:37:36,898 --> 00:37:37,965
information office and the way

672
00:37:37,965 --> 00:37:39,601
that they are able to get

673
00:37:39,601 --> 00:37:42,303
information out to the public.

674
00:37:42,303 --> 00:37:44,205
Um, we are dissolving the

675
00:37:44,205 --> 00:37:46,140
public Publicity Committee due

676
00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:46,408
to the changes in the city

677
00:37:46,408 --> 00:37:47,842
s

678
00:37:47,842 --> 00:37:50,378
expectations for our board and

679
00:37:50,378 --> 00:37:52,778
commission members. Um, and

680
00:37:53,214 --> 00:37:54,782
lastly, we want to move the

681
00:37:54,782 --> 00:37:56,117
public comment period to the

682
00:37:56,117 --> 00:37:57,919
top so that if people want to

683
00:37:57,919 --> 00:37:58,850
come and speak, um, that they

684
00:37:58,850 --> 00:37:59,530
don

685
00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:00,555
t have to necessarily sit

686
00:38:00,555 --> 00:38:03,458
through COAs and other items of

687
00:38:03,458 --> 00:38:05,293
business. Um, and, and they can

688
00:38:05,293 --> 00:38:06,961
speak at the beginning of the

689
00:38:06,961 --> 00:38:08,996
meeting, just like we just did.

690
00:38:08,996 --> 00:38:10,699
Um, so if there are any

691
00:38:10,699 --> 00:38:13,167
questions, please. Now is the

692
00:38:13,167 --> 00:38:14,335
time to ask. Um, since is this

693
00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:16,537
since this is the second

694
00:38:16,537 --> 00:38:20,137
reading, there will need to be

695
00:38:20,141 --> 00:38:21,575
a vote for adoption of the edit

696
00:38:21,575 --> 00:38:24,679
of the or the revision of these

697
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:27,790
rules of procedure. Okay.

698
00:38:27,810 --> 00:38:28,820
Um, do have that. All in favor?

699
00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:28,516
I.

700
00:38:28,516 --> 00:38:29,684
Um. I

701
00:38:29,684 --> 00:38:31,684
ll move approval.

702
00:38:34,222 --> 00:38:34,789
I move approval. Do we have a

703
00:38:34,789 --> 00:38:36,789
vote?

704
00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:38,226
No, we need a second. Okay,

705
00:38:38,226 --> 00:38:40,128
okay.

706
00:38:40,128 --> 00:38:42,128
Then. Everybody.

707
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:43,965
Yes. Hi.

708
00:38:43,965 --> 00:38:45,933
All right.

709
00:38:45,933 --> 00:38:48,933
Okay. Fantastic. Thank you very

710
00:38:50,371 --> 00:38:52,371
much.

711
00:38:52,807 --> 00:38:54,807
Okay.

712
00:38:54,942 --> 00:38:56,611
Are there any more?

713
00:38:56,611 --> 00:38:58,546
Um, yes. Our next item is

714
00:38:58,546 --> 00:38:58,813
committee reports. So I

715
00:38:58,813 --> 00:39:00,514
ll go

716
00:39:00,514 --> 00:39:03,517
ahead and share that with you.

717
00:39:03,517 --> 00:39:05,220
Um, so our design review

718
00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:06,487
committee has not met. The

719
00:39:06,487 --> 00:39:08,887
selection committee also has

720
00:39:09,724 --> 00:39:12,293
not met. Um, but we previously

721
00:39:12,293 --> 00:39:13,561
or we I wanted to go over our

722
00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:15,563
membership for those two

723
00:39:15,563 --> 00:39:18,700
committees. Um, as we have a

724
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:19,967
new member. Um, city council

725
00:39:19,967 --> 00:39:22,367
recently appointed two new

726
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:23,371
members to hpc and, um, and

727
00:39:23,371 --> 00:39:25,239
right now we currently have

728
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,541
Susan Daughtry, Rebecca Smith,

729
00:39:27,541 --> 00:39:28,876
Sidney McLeod, um, David

730
00:39:28,876 --> 00:39:29,943
Dennard and David Dennard on

731
00:39:29,943 --> 00:39:32,113
the Design Review Committee.

732
00:39:32,113 --> 00:39:34,150
There is one vacant position on

733
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:35,783
that committee. Um, the

734
00:39:35,783 --> 00:39:37,783
selection committee members

735
00:39:37,952 --> 00:39:40,488
have three slots open. Please

736
00:39:40,488 --> 00:39:42,490
excuse that. Um, that Mistype,

737
00:39:42,490 --> 00:39:45,590
um, and Matthew Cox and Kamari

738
00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:46,928
Carter are currently on those

739
00:39:46,928 --> 00:39:49,964
committees. So if we have any

740
00:39:49,964 --> 00:39:52,964
volunteers for a committee, uh,

741
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:54,268
that would be fantastic.

742
00:39:54,268 --> 00:39:56,268
Okay.

743
00:39:56,704 --> 00:39:58,806
Is there any, um, like,

744
00:39:58,806 --> 00:40:01,108
timeline or for those

745
00:40:01,108 --> 00:40:02,977
committees? Um.

746
00:40:02,977 --> 00:40:04,145
Timeline. How so? Like a

747
00:40:04,145 --> 00:40:06,145
monthly meeting?

748
00:40:06,414 --> 00:40:07,481
Like, should we have me? Should

749
00:40:07,481 --> 00:40:10,500
we meet before the next

750
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:11,652
meeting? I mean, you know, or..

751
00:40:11,652 --> 00:40:13,655
Design review committee meets

752
00:40:13,655 --> 00:40:13,854
as needed. So. So when there

753
00:40:13,854 --> 00:40:15,854
s

754
00:40:17,158 --> 00:40:19,260
a Coa application, um, that for

755
00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:21,595
a major work, for example, um,

756
00:40:21,595 --> 00:40:22,964
that will need the approval of

757
00:40:22,964 --> 00:40:24,498
the design review committee

758
00:40:24,498 --> 00:40:24,699
before coming to hpc. That

759
00:40:24,699 --> 00:40:24,965
s

760
00:40:24,965 --> 00:40:25,800
when they

761
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,100
ll meet. So that

762
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,100
s a

763
00:40:28,136 --> 00:40:29,803
case by case basis. Okay. Um,

764
00:40:29,803 --> 00:40:31,405
the selection committee has not

765
00:40:31,405 --> 00:40:32,720
met. Um, they don

766
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,410
t necessarily

767
00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:34,308
have a monthly meeting time.

768
00:40:34,308 --> 00:40:34,942
And that

769
00:40:34,942 --> 00:40:36,744
s something that the

770
00:40:36,744 --> 00:40:39,144
selection committee would, um,

771
00:40:39,647 --> 00:40:40,815
do themselves. Okay.

772
00:40:40,815 --> 00:40:41,882
I thought we were limited to

773
00:40:41,882 --> 00:40:43,851
four.

774
00:40:43,851 --> 00:40:46,954
So we were limited to four

775
00:40:46,954 --> 00:40:49,290
people on each. Um, committee.

776
00:40:49,290 --> 00:40:51,910
With the change of the rule

777
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:52,693
procedure. Rule of procedure?

778
00:40:52,693 --> 00:40:54,195
Um, we now no longer have the

779
00:40:54,195 --> 00:40:55,529
publicity committee. So

780
00:40:55,529 --> 00:40:56,898
initially there were four to

781
00:40:56,898 --> 00:40:59,133
each committee. Now there are

782
00:40:59,133 --> 00:41:02,570
five to each committee. Um, as

783
00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:04,380
our, uh, hpc typically has ten

784
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:07,380
members, the amount is ten

785
00:41:08,176 --> 00:41:11,120
members. Um, so those spots

786
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,379
will be filled once we are a

787
00:41:12,379 --> 00:41:14,379
full commission. Again.

788
00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:16,951
And.

789
00:41:16,951 --> 00:41:19,860
Oh, and yes, the fifth. The

790
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:20,654
fifth person on the, um, on

791
00:41:20,654 --> 00:41:22,623
each committee is the

792
00:41:22,623 --> 00:41:23,957
alternate. Right. Um, of that

793
00:41:23,957 --> 00:41:25,526
committee. So that person will

794
00:41:25,526 --> 00:41:26,761
not necessarily attend every

795
00:41:26,761 --> 00:41:28,329
committee meeting. They will

796
00:41:28,329 --> 00:41:29,597
attend ones where there might

797
00:41:29,597 --> 00:41:31,499
be somebody who MAY not be able

798
00:41:31,499 --> 00:41:32,734
to attend. Um, because there

799
00:41:32,734 --> 00:41:34,135
needs to be at least two people

800
00:41:34,135 --> 00:41:35,236
at each committee meeting in

801
00:41:35,236 --> 00:41:36,504
order for it to be a committee

802
00:41:36,504 --> 00:41:39,207
meeting. But we cannot have

803
00:41:39,207 --> 00:41:41,475
five, as that is quorum.

804
00:41:41,475 --> 00:41:41,942
That is a quorum of the.

805
00:41:41,942 --> 00:41:43,942
Historic.

806
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:45,513
Hpc. Commission for our new

807
00:41:45,513 --> 00:41:46,314
member. So we can

808
00:41:46,314 --> 00:41:46,581
t if we do

809
00:41:46,581 --> 00:41:47,315
that, we

810
00:41:47,315 --> 00:41:48,749
d have to advertise

811
00:41:48,749 --> 00:41:49,490
and do those things.

812
00:41:49,490 --> 00:41:51,490
Thank you.

813
00:41:51,285 --> 00:41:52,920
And that makes sense. Sure.

814
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Yes.

815
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,550
Okay.

816
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:55,256
So.

817
00:41:55,256 --> 00:41:57,256
What

818
00:41:57,859 --> 00:42:00,259
s our working definition

819
00:42:00,694 --> 00:42:03,940
of a full committee?

820
00:42:03,397 --> 00:42:05,333
A full committee would be full.

821
00:42:05,333 --> 00:42:06,233
Four people. Yes. Okay. And

822
00:42:06,233 --> 00:42:07,201
then? And then there would be

823
00:42:07,201 --> 00:42:07,401
one alternate.

824
00:42:07,401 --> 00:42:08,869
That

825
00:42:08,869 --> 00:42:09,837
s our working definition.

826
00:42:09,837 --> 00:42:11,339
Yes. And then there would be

827
00:42:11,339 --> 00:42:13,774
one alternate who would fill

828
00:42:13,774 --> 00:42:15,943
that? That fifth position as as

829
00:42:15,943 --> 00:42:19,113
somebody who would, um, come to

830
00:42:19,113 --> 00:42:21,513
either committee meeting when

831
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,830
as needed.

832
00:42:23,830 --> 00:42:24,618
Would you say either committee?

833
00:42:24,618 --> 00:42:26,453
Do you mean the design review

834
00:42:26,453 --> 00:42:28,853
committee or the selection

835
00:42:29,890 --> 00:42:30,758
committee? Yes. Thank you.

836
00:42:30,758 --> 00:42:31,692
No, they would pick a

837
00:42:31,692 --> 00:42:33,692
committee.

838
00:42:35,729 --> 00:42:37,729
Sure.

839
00:42:37,765 --> 00:42:40,765
All right. Great. Thank you

840
00:42:40,768 --> 00:42:43,237
very much. Um, if we have any,

841
00:42:43,237 --> 00:42:45,172
um, volunteers for committees,

842
00:42:45,172 --> 00:42:46,774
um, please let me know whether

843
00:42:46,774 --> 00:42:47,909
it be at this meeting or after.

844
00:42:47,909 --> 00:42:50,309
Thank you very much.

845
00:42:51,378 --> 00:42:51,745
Uh, the selection committee.

846
00:42:51,745 --> 00:42:53,447
Okay.

847
00:42:53,447 --> 00:42:54,481
Fantastic.

848
00:42:54,481 --> 00:42:58,681
I will talk to you down for

849
00:43:04,858 --> 00:43:06,994
that. All right. Fantastic. Um,

850
00:43:06,994 --> 00:43:09,897
so, on to minor works updates.

851
00:43:09,897 --> 00:43:12,833
We have had one minor work

852
00:43:12,833 --> 00:43:15,169
since our last meeting. Um, at

853
00:43:15,169 --> 00:43:18,169
the, I believe the Proctor

854
00:43:18,339 --> 00:43:19,607
Young house. Um, for routine

855
00:43:19,607 --> 00:43:21,607
maintenance, for restoring

856
00:43:23,644 --> 00:43:26,513
peeling paint. Um, and I have

857
00:43:26,513 --> 00:43:27,381
one announcement for you. Uh,

858
00:43:27,381 --> 00:43:28,883
the historic window

859
00:43:28,883 --> 00:43:30,883
preservation and restoration

860
00:43:31,219 --> 00:43:32,720
workshop that is happening on

861
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,522
Saturday, JULY 11th. You should

862
00:43:34,522 --> 00:43:38,122
have received an email from me

863
00:43:38,125 --> 00:43:40,928
or several, um, and we are

864
00:43:40,928 --> 00:43:43,328
advertising on all platforms.

865
00:43:44,399 --> 00:43:47,134
Um, website. Um, social media

866
00:43:47,134 --> 00:43:49,904
and, um, we have shared this

867
00:43:49,904 --> 00:43:52,206
with adjoining, um, communities

868
00:43:52,206 --> 00:43:54,375
as well with their hpc and, and

869
00:43:54,375 --> 00:43:55,409
their staff. Um, to let them

870
00:43:55,409 --> 00:43:56,610
know that this is an

871
00:43:56,610 --> 00:43:58,610
opportunity, a learning

872
00:43:58,645 --> 00:44:00,645
opportunity for window

873
00:44:02,483 --> 00:44:03,751
preservation. Um, if you are

874
00:44:03,751 --> 00:44:05,819
interested, please join us.

875
00:44:05,819 --> 00:44:07,421
This does, um, count towards

876
00:44:07,421 --> 00:44:09,357
your training opportunities as

877
00:44:09,357 --> 00:44:11,592
as commission members? Um, I

878
00:44:11,592 --> 00:44:13,360
sent I sent an email with

879
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,950
detailed information on that.

880
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:16,363
Um, so please let me know if

881
00:44:16,363 --> 00:44:17,698
you have any questions on this

882
00:44:17,698 --> 00:44:18,933
workshop. And this qr code here

883
00:44:18,933 --> 00:44:20,334
on the screen is is for

884
00:44:20,334 --> 00:44:21,736
registration.

885
00:44:21,736 --> 00:44:24,505
Is this capped at a certain

886
00:44:24,505 --> 00:44:26,340
number? No. So it

887
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:27,441
s just.

888
00:44:27,441 --> 00:44:29,410
Yep, yep. We just have

889
00:44:29,410 --> 00:44:30,511
registrations that we are aware

890
00:44:30,511 --> 00:44:30,944
of how many we might.

891
00:44:30,944 --> 00:44:31,779
Have.

892
00:44:31,779 --> 00:44:32,847
And where.

893
00:44:32,847 --> 00:44:34,847
The time.

894
00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:35,816
Yeah. It is at 9 A.M. On

895
00:44:35,816 --> 00:44:36,850
Saturday.

896
00:44:36,850 --> 00:44:37,850
Right in front of me. No

897
00:44:37,850 --> 00:44:37,851
worries.

898
00:44:37,851 --> 00:44:38,850
It helps to read.

899
00:44:38,850 --> 00:44:38,786
Yeah.

900
00:44:38,786 --> 00:44:39,153
No worries at all. I

901
00:44:39,153 --> 00:44:39,419
ll let you

902
00:44:39,419 --> 00:44:39,887
know. It

903
00:44:39,887 --> 00:44:40,755
s, um. It

904
00:44:40,755 --> 00:44:42,755
s Saturday,

905
00:44:42,756 --> 00:44:45,920
JULY 11th, from 9 A.M. To 12

906
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,460
P.M.. Okay. Um, we have

907
00:44:46,460 --> 00:44:47,561
Colliers Engineering and Design

908
00:44:47,561 --> 00:44:47,761
has partnered with us, and

909
00:44:47,761 --> 00:44:49,761
they

910
00:44:50,331 --> 00:44:53,331
ve hired, um, uh, David,

911
00:44:53,501 --> 00:44:55,169
who does, um, who is an expert

912
00:44:55,169 --> 00:44:56,203
in his field for for window

913
00:44:56,203 --> 00:44:57,138
preservation. He

914
00:44:57,138 --> 00:44:59,138
s with double

915
00:44:59,673 --> 00:45:02,730
hung window preservation. Um,

916
00:45:02,242 --> 00:45:03,411
and and it will be at the Eppes

917
00:45:03,411 --> 00:45:05,811
Recreation Center in the

918
00:45:06,647 --> 00:45:07,848
multi-purpose room. And, uh,

919
00:45:07,848 --> 00:45:09,416
there will be some hands on

920
00:45:09,416 --> 00:45:11,816
learning opportunities as well

921
00:45:13,153 --> 00:45:15,153
as educational presentations.

922
00:45:15,222 --> 00:45:17,258
So, um, please join us if you

923
00:45:17,258 --> 00:45:18,325
can.

924
00:45:18,325 --> 00:45:19,493
For any member, you might

925
00:45:19,493 --> 00:45:20,761
explain why the training

926
00:45:20,761 --> 00:45:22,761
matters.

927
00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:24,631
Oh, absolutely. Ah, we had we

928
00:45:24,631 --> 00:45:26,500
had an orientation yesterday.

929
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:28,936
Never mind. So so all good on

930
00:45:28,936 --> 00:45:30,805
that on that end. Um, but yes,

931
00:45:30,805 --> 00:45:32,340
the window workshop, I believe

932
00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:34,740
MR. Hitchcock is looking

933
00:45:37,845 --> 00:45:39,780
forward to it. Um, and I just I

934
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:40,848
did want to I did want to also

935
00:45:40,848 --> 00:45:43,248
mention the Design Standards

936
00:45:44,218 --> 00:45:46,219
task force. Um, we have had

937
00:45:46,219 --> 00:45:48,456
four meetings up until this

938
00:45:48,456 --> 00:45:48,689
point, and we have two left.

939
00:45:48,689 --> 00:45:50,689
Um, it

940
00:45:50,757 --> 00:45:52,590
s been going great. Um,

941
00:45:52,590 --> 00:45:52,193
Andrew can speak on it if you

942
00:45:52,193 --> 00:45:54,193
d

943
00:45:54,762 --> 00:45:56,730
like to, but, um, but yeah, our

944
00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:59,730
next two meetings are AUGUST

945
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,702
19th and SEPTEMBER 9th. The

946
00:46:01,702 --> 00:46:02,702
next one will be on our last

947
00:46:02,702 --> 00:46:05,102
section of the design

948
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,641
standards. And our last one on

949
00:46:07,641 --> 00:46:09,843
SEPTEMBER 9th will be the

950
00:46:09,843 --> 00:46:12,179
review of the finished draft.

951
00:46:12,179 --> 00:46:13,848
Um, and once that is complete,

952
00:46:13,848 --> 00:46:17,351
that final draft should come to

953
00:46:17,351 --> 00:46:18,180
hpc in the OCTOBER NOVEMBER

954
00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:18,552
timeline. That

955
00:46:18,552 --> 00:46:20,188
s what we are

956
00:46:20,188 --> 00:46:21,421
looking at right now.

957
00:46:21,421 --> 00:46:22,856
I want to confirm you said our

958
00:46:22,856 --> 00:46:23,891
next meeting was AUGUST 19th

959
00:46:23,891 --> 00:46:25,891
with us.

960
00:46:26,930 --> 00:46:27,295
No, not with us. Our meeting

961
00:46:27,295 --> 00:46:28,662
will still be our routine

962
00:46:28,662 --> 00:46:29,596
monthly. Gotcha. This is, um.

963
00:46:29,596 --> 00:46:30,697
This is for the Design

964
00:46:30,697 --> 00:46:31,598
Standards Task Force.

965
00:46:31,598 --> 00:46:33,598
Gotcha. Thank you.

966
00:46:33,934 --> 00:46:35,569
Yeah, absolutely.

967
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:37,370
Then the consultants are, I

968
00:46:37,370 --> 00:46:38,572
think, doing a very good job of

969
00:46:38,572 --> 00:46:40,972
making it more readable,

970
00:46:41,975 --> 00:46:43,744
clarifying. Mhm. Moving.

971
00:46:43,744 --> 00:46:45,880
Clarifying what our standards

972
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,681
and what our best practices.

973
00:46:47,681 --> 00:46:49,116
But I encourage the commission

974
00:46:49,116 --> 00:46:52,653
when that comes to them to read

975
00:46:52,653 --> 00:46:52,819
those carefully because there

976
00:46:52,819 --> 00:46:54,819
s

977
00:46:54,889 --> 00:46:56,889
some interesting questions

978
00:46:57,558 --> 00:46:57,691
there. Well I mean about what

979
00:46:57,691 --> 00:46:58,158
s

980
00:46:58,158 --> 00:46:58,559
the standard. What

981
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:00,600
s the best

982
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:00,561
practice. What what

983
00:47:00,561 --> 00:47:01,262
s a hill

984
00:47:01,262 --> 00:47:02,496
will die on. What

985
00:47:02,496 --> 00:47:02,763
s something

986
00:47:02,763 --> 00:47:03,764
we don

987
00:47:03,764 --> 00:47:05,499
t.

988
00:47:05,499 --> 00:47:06,534
Yes. And that will be sent out

989
00:47:06,534 --> 00:47:08,402
before the meeting. So there

990
00:47:08,402 --> 00:47:10,404
will be um, there will be due

991
00:47:10,404 --> 00:47:12,730
time for you to to review the

992
00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:13,841
standards and come back with

993
00:47:13,841 --> 00:47:15,409
any questions, comments or

994
00:47:15,409 --> 00:47:16,430
concerns. That

995
00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:16,244
s good.

996
00:47:16,244 --> 00:47:18,244
That

997
00:47:18,412 --> 00:47:19,813
s good. Also, the the

998
00:47:19,813 --> 00:47:22,449
email that you mentioned that

999
00:47:22,449 --> 00:47:23,917
we can be a part of the review

1000
00:47:23,917 --> 00:47:25,619
or. No.

1001
00:47:25,619 --> 00:47:28,222
If you would like to join the,

1002
00:47:28,222 --> 00:47:31,125
the, um, the task force. Yes,

1003
00:47:31,125 --> 00:47:32,793
absolutely. Um, so feel free

1004
00:47:32,793 --> 00:47:33,828
to. I know we had spoken about

1005
00:47:33,828 --> 00:47:33,961
that. Um, so if you

1006
00:47:33,961 --> 00:47:35,696
re

1007
00:47:35,696 --> 00:47:37,698
interested in, in coming to the

1008
00:47:37,698 --> 00:47:38,599
next two task force meetings.

1009
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:38,999
Absolutely.

1010
00:47:38,999 --> 00:47:40,999
Sure.

1011
00:47:41,168 --> 00:47:42,169
Thank you. Um.

1012
00:47:42,169 --> 00:47:42,536
Thank you. Great. That

1013
00:47:42,536 --> 00:47:44,536
s all I

1014
00:47:45,539 --> 00:47:47,539
have.

1015
00:47:52,246 --> 00:47:55,683
Anything else? Uh, well, do I

1016
00:47:55,683 --> 00:47:56,650
have a ready for adjournment?

1017
00:47:56,650 --> 00:47:58,650
Motion?

1018
00:48:01,388 --> 00:48:01,521
Uh. Yes. Sorry for adjournment.

1019
00:48:01,521 --> 00:48:03,900
I

1020
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:03,857
ll move to adjourn.

1021
00:48:03,857 --> 00:48:03,991
Second.

1022
00:48:03,991 --> 00:48:05,225
I

1023
00:48:05,225 --> 00:48:06,961
ll second.

1024
00:48:06,961 --> 00:48:08,961
Anybody in approval?

1025
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,364
Aye. All right.

1026
00:48:10,364 --> 00:48:13,964
All right. Thank you for your

1027
01:08:12,765 --> 01:08:13,833
time.

1028
01:08:13,833 --> 01:08:13,967
All right. Good evening. I

1029
01:08:13,967 --> 01:08:15,701
d

1030
01:08:15,701 --> 01:08:17,370
like to call the AUGUST 10th,

1031
01:08:17,370 --> 01:08:18,370
2026 meeting of Greenville City

1032
01:08:18,370 --> 01:08:18,704
Council to order. I

1033
01:08:18,704 --> 01:08:19,500
m Mayor pj

1034
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:19,739
Conley. I

1035
01:08:19,739 --> 01:08:19,973
ll be presiding over

1036
01:08:19,973 --> 01:08:20,640
tonight

1037
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:20,773
s meeting. First, I

1038
01:08:20,773 --> 01:08:22,175
d

1039
01:08:22,175 --> 01:08:24,143
like to call on Council Member

1040
01:08:24,143 --> 01:08:25,110
Jones for the invocation,

1041
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:25,745
followed by the Pledge of

1042
01:08:25,745 --> 01:08:27,745
Allegiance.

1043
01:08:28,247 --> 01:08:29,748
If you join me in prayer, dear

1044
01:08:29,748 --> 01:08:31,417
Lord, we come before you with

1045
01:08:31,417 --> 01:08:33,286
gratitude for the opportunity

1046
01:08:33,286 --> 01:08:34,754
to serve our community. We ask

1047
01:08:34,754 --> 01:08:36,589
you for your wisdom, guidance,

1048
01:08:36,589 --> 01:08:38,258
and discernment as we consider

1049
01:08:38,258 --> 01:08:39,825
the matters before us today.

1050
01:08:39,825 --> 01:08:41,961
Help us to listen with open

1051
01:08:41,961 --> 01:08:44,497
minds. Speak with respect and

1052
01:08:44,497 --> 01:08:45,765
take this this discussion with

1053
01:08:45,765 --> 01:08:47,567
fairness, integrity and

1054
01:08:47,567 --> 01:08:48,968
compassion. Remind us that our

1055
01:08:48,968 --> 01:08:50,203
responsibility is to serve all

1056
01:08:50,203 --> 01:08:51,638
members of our community, and

1057
01:08:51,638 --> 01:08:53,206
to work together for the common

1058
01:08:53,206 --> 01:08:54,773
good. Give us patience,

1059
01:08:54,773 --> 01:08:56,109
humility, and courage to do

1060
01:08:56,109 --> 01:08:57,243
what is right. MAY our

1061
01:08:57,243 --> 01:08:59,110
decisions promote peace,

1062
01:08:59,110 --> 01:09:00,647
safety, opportunity, and the

1063
01:09:00,647 --> 01:09:02,515
well-being of every person and

1064
01:09:02,515 --> 01:09:04,784
family we represent. Bless our

1065
01:09:04,784 --> 01:09:06,653
city, its residents, its

1066
01:09:06,653 --> 01:09:08,220
leaders, and all those who work

1067
01:09:08,220 --> 01:09:09,589
to make our community a better

1068
01:09:09,589 --> 01:09:10,790
place. MAY we leave this

1069
01:09:10,790 --> 01:09:13,190
meeting committed to serving

1070
01:09:13,259 --> 01:09:15,228
others with wisdom, honesty and

1071
01:09:15,228 --> 01:09:15,662
grace. In your name we pray.

1072
01:09:15,662 --> 01:09:17,960
Amen.

1073
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,960
Amen. Amen. Please stand for

1074
01:09:20,833 --> 01:09:23,200
the Pledge of Allegiance.

1075
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,770
Pledge allegiance to the flag

1076
01:09:24,770 --> 01:09:26,905
of the United States of

1077
01:09:26,905 --> 01:09:29,575
America. And to the Republic

1078
01:09:29,575 --> 01:09:32,244
for which it stands. One nation

1079
01:09:32,244 --> 01:09:34,644
under GOD, indivisible, with

1080
01:09:38,418 --> 01:09:39,618
liberty and justice for all.

1081
01:09:39,618 --> 01:09:40,286
MADAM Clerk, will you please

1082
01:09:40,286 --> 01:09:42,254
call the roll?

1083
01:09:42,254 --> 01:09:43,589
Yes, sir. Mayor Conley here.

1084
01:09:43,589 --> 01:09:45,391
Mayor Pro tem Forman. Council

1085
01:09:45,391 --> 01:09:46,926
member. Jones here. Council

1086
01:09:46,926 --> 01:09:48,127
member. Hardy. Here. Council

1087
01:09:48,127 --> 01:09:49,610
member Scalise, let us know. He

1088
01:09:49,610 --> 01:09:50,620
will not be attending this

1089
01:09:50,620 --> 01:09:51,831
evening. Council member

1090
01:09:51,831 --> 01:09:52,832
Robinson here. Council member

1091
01:09:52,832 --> 01:09:53,633
Wallace here. All right. Mayor

1092
01:09:53,633 --> 01:09:54,400
Connolly, have a quorum.

1093
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:54,633
Thank you very much. We

1094
01:09:54,633 --> 01:09:55,768
ll now

1095
01:09:55,768 --> 01:09:56,200
move on to approval of

1096
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,503
tonight

1097
01:09:57,503 --> 01:09:58,637
s agenda. MISTER

1098
01:09:58,637 --> 01:09:59,805
Manager, any recommend changes?

1099
01:09:59,805 --> 01:10:00,506
No changes. Do I have a motion

1100
01:10:00,506 --> 01:10:01,608
to approve the agenda?

1101
01:10:01,608 --> 01:10:02,642
Motion to approve. Second.

1102
01:10:02,642 --> 01:10:04,477
All right. Motion to be made by

1103
01:10:04,477 --> 01:10:05,345
Council. Jones. Second by

1104
01:10:05,345 --> 01:10:06,450
Councilmember Robinson. All

1105
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:06,446
those in favor say aye.

1106
01:10:06,446 --> 01:10:07,279
Aye, aye.

1107
01:10:07,279 --> 01:10:09,348
Those opposed say nay.

1108
01:10:09,348 --> 01:10:11,250
Motion passes five zero.

1109
01:10:11,250 --> 01:10:13,250
Thank you.

1110
01:10:15,554 --> 01:10:18,554
Move on to special recognitions.

1111
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:39,312
Good evening. Um, tonight we

1112
01:10:39,312 --> 01:10:40,680
would like to recognize our

1113
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,470
newest junior fire marshal

1114
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:43,316
Academy graduates. So if you

1115
01:10:43,316 --> 01:10:47,516
guys would come on up and join

1116
01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:53,560
us on the stage. So while

1117
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:53,959
they

1118
01:10:53,959 --> 01:10:54,326
re while they

1119
01:10:54,326 --> 01:10:56,326
re coming

1120
01:10:56,429 --> 01:10:57,730
up, um, this is our 12th year

1121
01:10:57,730 --> 01:10:58,331
of the junior fire marshal

1122
01:10:58,331 --> 01:10:58,731
Academy. Uh, we

1123
01:10:58,731 --> 01:10:59,980
re really

1124
01:10:59,980 --> 01:10:59,899
excited. It

1125
01:10:59,899 --> 01:11:00,566
s an exciting week

1126
01:11:00,566 --> 01:11:01,300
for us. And it

1127
01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:02,902
s an exciting

1128
01:11:02,902 --> 01:11:04,904
week for our staff because we

1129
01:11:04,904 --> 01:11:06,138
get to bring in these bright,

1130
01:11:06,138 --> 01:11:07,600
beautiful faces in from the

1131
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,108
outside and teach them some

1132
01:11:09,108 --> 01:11:11,343
very important topics, such as

1133
01:11:11,343 --> 01:11:12,411
fire prevention, water safety.

1134
01:11:12,411 --> 01:11:13,913
We teach them how to use fire

1135
01:11:13,913 --> 01:11:15,714
extinguishers, different first

1136
01:11:15,714 --> 01:11:16,815
aid topics, and how to do cpr

1137
01:11:16,815 --> 01:11:17,316
and which, uh, you don

1138
01:11:17,316 --> 01:11:18,250
t think

1139
01:11:18,250 --> 01:11:19,319
that that really makes a

1140
01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:20,386
difference to the kids this

1141
01:11:20,386 --> 01:11:21,187
age, but it does, because what

1142
01:11:21,187 --> 01:11:22,540
they do is they go home and

1143
01:11:22,540 --> 01:11:23,289
they teach other people and

1144
01:11:23,289 --> 01:11:24,590
other friends how to do it, and

1145
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:25,791
it prepares them in the event

1146
01:11:25,791 --> 01:11:26,325
of an emergency. So we

1147
01:11:26,325 --> 01:11:27,793
re super

1148
01:11:27,793 --> 01:11:28,828
excited. We had a really great

1149
01:11:28,828 --> 01:11:29,996
week this year. Again, this is

1150
01:11:29,996 --> 01:11:31,300
our 12th year and it just gets

1151
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:32,365
better and better every year.

1152
01:11:32,365 --> 01:11:34,133
But we just want to recognize

1153
01:11:34,133 --> 01:11:35,868
these cadets. Um, Chief Bedford

1154
01:11:35,868 --> 01:11:36,568
and Grace, they do a great job

1155
01:11:36,568 --> 01:11:37,570
through our life Safety

1156
01:11:37,570 --> 01:11:38,103
division of putting this on

1157
01:11:38,103 --> 01:11:38,337
every year. And there

1158
01:11:38,337 --> 01:11:39,500
s a lot

1159
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:39,739
of city staff. It

1160
01:11:39,739 --> 01:11:40,640
s no one

1161
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:40,806
department that does this.

1162
01:11:40,806 --> 01:11:42,800
It

1163
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:42,908
s, um, you know, all the

1164
01:11:42,908 --> 01:11:44,109
departments come together to

1165
01:11:44,109 --> 01:11:45,110
help us out with the different

1166
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:45,911
things we need during that

1167
01:11:45,911 --> 01:11:46,246
week. So, chief, better than

1168
01:11:46,246 --> 01:11:47,146
anything you

1169
01:11:47,146 --> 01:11:47,413
d like to add or.

1170
01:11:47,413 --> 01:11:48,448
No, I.

1171
01:11:48,448 --> 01:11:49,949
Just want to thank all the

1172
01:11:49,949 --> 01:11:51,170
parents that got them there.

1173
01:11:51,170 --> 01:11:52,151
Uh, every day during the week.

1174
01:11:52,151 --> 01:11:53,486
I know there was a week to get

1175
01:11:53,486 --> 01:11:54,687
them there, but we really had a

1176
01:11:54,687 --> 01:11:55,254
great time with all.

1177
01:11:55,254 --> 01:11:55,955
Of you.

1178
01:11:55,955 --> 01:11:57,560
So thank you.

1179
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:57,590
All.

1180
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:58,891
Okay. I

1181
01:11:58,891 --> 01:12:01,360
m going to let them

1182
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,195
tell you their names.

1183
01:12:03,195 --> 01:12:04,997
So.

1184
01:12:04,997 --> 01:12:05,932
Levi.

1185
01:12:05,932 --> 01:12:07,932
DeAndre.

1186
01:12:11,170 --> 01:12:14,170
Hey then Josh, Charlie, Gabe.

1187
01:12:14,740 --> 01:12:16,740
Collier, Carson. Wyatt,

1188
01:12:16,876 --> 01:12:18,143
Matthew. Nolan.

1189
01:12:18,143 --> 01:12:20,112
All right, one more big round.

1190
01:12:20,112 --> 01:12:23,112
Of applause to our newest

1191
01:12:23,449 --> 01:12:23,649
graduates. And hopefully

1192
01:12:23,649 --> 01:12:23,849
they

1193
01:12:23,849 --> 01:12:24,490
ll they

1194
01:12:24,490 --> 01:12:25,510
ll.

1195
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:25,284
Be looking for a job here soon.

1196
01:12:25,284 --> 01:12:27,284
And we

1197
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,620
ll get them ready to go.

1198
01:12:31,624 --> 01:12:32,691
Oh, in the payroll.

1199
01:12:32,691 --> 01:12:33,893
Volunteer.

1200
01:12:33,893 --> 01:12:34,459
Fire station.

1201
01:12:34,459 --> 01:12:35,627
Eight.

1202
01:12:35,627 --> 01:12:35,828
Staffing for fire station

1203
01:12:35,828 --> 01:12:36,280
eight.

1204
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,280
That

1205
01:13:09,762 --> 01:13:10,462
s right.

1206
01:13:10,462 --> 01:13:12,462
All the phones.

1207
01:13:24,877 --> 01:13:26,245
About two stars.

1208
01:13:26,245 --> 01:13:27,946
I heard one of them say I

1209
01:13:27,946 --> 01:13:29,215
thought the city manager was a

1210
01:13:29,215 --> 01:13:30,616
lot cooler.

1211
01:13:30,616 --> 01:13:33,160
Did you see him.

1212
01:13:33,185 --> 01:13:36,185
Leave me hanging my hands.

1213
01:13:36,422 --> 01:13:37,123
Hi, stranger. Danger. Smart

1214
01:13:37,123 --> 01:13:38,991
kids.

1215
01:13:38,991 --> 01:13:40,426
Huh?

1216
01:13:40,426 --> 01:13:41,661
All right, we

1217
01:13:41,661 --> 01:13:42,762
ll move on now to

1218
01:13:42,762 --> 01:13:43,729
the public comment period. The

1219
01:13:43,729 --> 01:13:44,530
public period is a period

1220
01:13:44,530 --> 01:13:45,331
reserve for comments by the

1221
01:13:45,331 --> 01:13:46,198
public. Items that were or

1222
01:13:46,198 --> 01:13:47,166
scheduled to be subject to a

1223
01:13:47,166 --> 01:13:48,660
public hearing conducted this

1224
01:13:48,660 --> 01:13:48,734
meeting or other meeting during

1225
01:13:48,734 --> 01:13:49,601
the same week shall not be

1226
01:13:49,601 --> 01:13:50,502
discussed. A total of 30

1227
01:13:50,502 --> 01:13:51,470
minutes is allocated, with each

1228
01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:52,705
individual being allowed no

1229
01:13:52,705 --> 01:13:53,739
more than three minutes.

1230
01:13:53,739 --> 01:13:54,707
Individuals who are registered

1231
01:13:54,707 --> 01:13:56,308
with City Clerk will speak in

1232
01:13:56,308 --> 01:13:58,100
the order Register until the

1233
01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:59,245
allotted 30 minutes expires. If

1234
01:13:59,245 --> 01:14:00,112
time remains. After all persons

1235
01:14:00,112 --> 01:14:01,414
have registered have spoken,

1236
01:14:01,414 --> 01:14:02,215
individuals who do not register

1237
01:14:02,215 --> 01:14:03,148
will have an opportunity to

1238
01:14:03,148 --> 01:14:04,450
speak until the allotted 30

1239
01:14:04,450 --> 01:14:05,417
minutes expires. MADAM Clerk,

1240
01:14:05,417 --> 01:14:07,417
our first Speaker..

1241
01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:08,221
Yes, sir. MR. Don Cavallini,

1242
01:14:08,221 --> 01:14:11,221
you have three minutes to

1243
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:18,330
address the mayor and council.

1244
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:20,299
Good evening.

1245
01:14:20,299 --> 01:14:22,501
Good evening, good evening.

1246
01:14:22,501 --> 01:14:26,101
You know, while I was walking

1247
01:14:27,173 --> 01:14:29,608
from the G.K. Butterfield bus

1248
01:14:29,608 --> 01:14:32,800
station through downtown to

1249
01:14:33,512 --> 01:14:34,947
come here tonight, uh, I kind

1250
01:14:34,947 --> 01:14:37,283
of marveled how beautiful the

1251
01:14:37,283 --> 01:14:38,717
city is and how fortunate I am

1252
01:14:38,717 --> 01:14:42,917
to live in this city for the

1253
01:14:43,210 --> 01:14:45,421
last 41 years. Um, truly

1254
01:14:48,226 --> 01:14:48,828
blessed. Uh. Tonight, I

1255
01:14:48,828 --> 01:14:50,828
m not

1256
01:14:51,531 --> 01:14:54,531
talking for anybody but myself.

1257
01:14:54,534 --> 01:14:56,702
Even though I am a member of

1258
01:14:56,702 --> 01:14:58,702
the Cambridge Neighborhood

1259
01:14:59,405 --> 01:15:01,407
Association of the road. And in

1260
01:15:01,407 --> 01:15:02,908
fact, a past PRESIDENT Of that

1261
01:15:02,908 --> 01:15:03,676
association. And I

1262
01:15:03,676 --> 01:15:05,676
m presently

1263
01:15:07,379 --> 01:15:10,150
the co-chair of the Pike County

1264
01:15:10,150 --> 01:15:12,284
Coalition Against Racism. I

1265
01:15:12,284 --> 01:15:14,553
attended the workshop, the

1266
01:15:14,553 --> 01:15:16,655
working session prior to this,

1267
01:15:16,655 --> 01:15:19,391
uh, city council meeting, and

1268
01:15:19,391 --> 01:15:21,193
they talked about a critical a

1269
01:15:21,193 --> 01:15:23,593
criteria point system for

1270
01:15:24,463 --> 01:15:26,863
placing of traffic calming

1271
01:15:27,666 --> 01:15:30,569
devices. You know, uh, speed

1272
01:15:30,569 --> 01:15:33,569
bumps, uh, speed mitigation of

1273
01:15:35,207 --> 01:15:37,376
some kind. And I noticed I, um,

1274
01:15:37,376 --> 01:15:39,412
I kind of wondered what it

1275
01:15:39,412 --> 01:15:41,812
includes incidents when people

1276
01:15:42,147 --> 01:15:42,315
have died by vehicle. I didn

1277
01:15:42,315 --> 01:15:43,816
t

1278
01:15:43,816 --> 01:15:46,752
hear that mention, but I might

1279
01:15:46,752 --> 01:15:48,887
have missed something in my

1280
01:15:48,887 --> 01:15:50,355
neighborhood, which is

1281
01:15:50,355 --> 01:15:51,823
overwhelmingly

1282
01:15:51,823 --> 01:15:52,758
African-American. We

1283
01:15:52,758 --> 01:15:54,758
ve noticed

1284
01:15:56,128 --> 01:15:58,197
when someone loses their life,

1285
01:15:58,197 --> 01:15:59,732
uh, in the university

1286
01:15:59,732 --> 01:16:02,132
neighborhood, for example, on

1287
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,360
10th Street, traffic stops for

1288
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,242
pedestrian signs are placed.

1289
01:16:10,242 --> 01:16:11,943
Whereas when two people were

1290
01:16:11,943 --> 01:16:13,912
run over in my hookah road

1291
01:16:13,912 --> 01:16:16,382
neighborhood in the last five

1292
01:16:16,382 --> 01:16:19,982
years, all we got was rumble

1293
01:16:20,919 --> 01:16:22,788
stick signs and rumble strips.

1294
01:16:22,788 --> 01:16:23,890
I think they call them. So I

1295
01:16:23,890 --> 01:16:25,890
m

1296
01:16:26,725 --> 01:16:29,125
wondering about this disparity.

1297
01:16:30,829 --> 01:16:34,429
Um, and I also wonder sometimes

1298
01:16:34,633 --> 01:16:37,303
when things like curfews are

1299
01:16:37,303 --> 01:16:39,703
recommended downtown for people

1300
01:16:39,705 --> 01:16:42,909
who are less than 18 years old,

1301
01:16:42,909 --> 01:16:44,543
what are we trying to do? I can

1302
01:16:44,543 --> 01:16:47,543
understand the threat that a

1303
01:16:47,747 --> 01:16:49,348
teen takeover might pose, but

1304
01:16:49,348 --> 01:16:52,484
to have a curfew from Thursday

1305
01:16:52,484 --> 01:16:53,919
to Saturday from 11 to 6 on all

1306
01:16:53,919 --> 01:16:57,289
18 year olds, I mean, all of

1307
01:16:57,289 --> 01:16:59,825
those under 18, I wonder how

1308
01:16:59,825 --> 01:17:02,328
that will be enforced and

1309
01:17:02,328 --> 01:17:04,463
whether that too will be a

1310
01:17:04,463 --> 01:17:06,463
disparity. Thank you.

1311
01:17:07,660 --> 01:17:08,968
Thank you.

1312
01:17:08,968 --> 01:17:10,235
Okay. Thank you, MADAM Clerk.

1313
01:17:10,235 --> 01:17:12,235
Our next speaker.

1314
01:17:16,408 --> 01:17:18,977
Yes, sir. Next speaker is MR.

1315
01:17:18,977 --> 01:17:19,344
Matthew Greenview. I

1316
01:17:19,344 --> 01:17:20,779
m very

1317
01:17:20,779 --> 01:17:21,513
sorry if I got that wrong, but

1318
01:17:21,513 --> 01:17:24,513
you have three minutes to

1319
01:17:31,824 --> 01:17:34,427
address the mayor and council.

1320
01:17:34,427 --> 01:17:38,270
I just wanted to express my

1321
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:39,332
concern about flock safety. Um,

1322
01:17:39,332 --> 01:17:41,800
you know, when I first heard

1323
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:42,901
about flock, uh, they said they

1324
01:17:42,901 --> 01:17:44,803
were said to have located

1325
01:17:44,803 --> 01:17:45,971
10,000 missing children. And

1326
01:17:45,971 --> 01:17:47,205
then I looked into it a little

1327
01:17:47,205 --> 01:17:48,807
further, and the numbers are

1328
01:17:48,807 --> 01:17:50,876
provided from an internal

1329
01:17:50,876 --> 01:17:52,244
database provided by Flock

1330
01:17:52,244 --> 01:17:54,847
Safety, which is the company

1331
01:17:54,847 --> 01:17:56,315
that runs flock cameras. Um,

1332
01:17:56,315 --> 01:17:58,150
flock cameras have already been

1333
01:17:58,150 --> 01:18:00,352
proven to be abused by police

1334
01:18:00,352 --> 01:18:01,721
officers in 50 proven

1335
01:18:01,721 --> 01:18:02,210
instances. Uh, we don

1336
01:18:02,210 --> 01:18:03,222
t know

1337
01:18:03,222 --> 01:18:04,690
how many more have not been

1338
01:18:04,690 --> 01:18:06,492
documented. Uh, it

1339
01:18:06,492 --> 01:18:08,492
s an $8.4

1340
01:18:09,328 --> 01:18:12,300
billion industry. And my main

1341
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:14,132
concern is that flock cameras

1342
01:18:14,132 --> 01:18:16,902
are going to be used to survey

1343
01:18:16,902 --> 01:18:17,670
and track ordinary citizens.

1344
01:18:17,670 --> 01:18:19,370
Thank you.

1345
01:18:19,370 --> 01:18:20,339
Thank you very much, MADAM

1346
01:18:20,339 --> 01:18:21,574
Clerk. Our next speaker.

1347
01:18:21,574 --> 01:18:22,441
We do not have any additional

1348
01:18:22,441 --> 01:18:23,242
registered speakers.

1349
01:18:23,242 --> 01:18:23,942
Anyone else like to speak to

1350
01:18:23,942 --> 01:18:24,743
the public? Comment here.

1351
01:18:24,743 --> 01:18:25,544
Please come forward. State your

1352
01:18:25,544 --> 01:18:29,144
name. For the record, the first

1353
01:18:43,896 --> 01:18:44,620
person has three minutes. None.

1354
01:18:44,620 --> 01:18:44,730
We

1355
01:18:44,730 --> 01:18:45,300
ll close public comment

1356
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:45,464
period. We

1357
01:18:45,464 --> 01:18:47,466
ll move on to the

1358
01:18:47,466 --> 01:18:48,166
consent agenda, MR. Manager.

1359
01:18:48,166 --> 01:18:49,501
Thank you. Mayor.

1360
01:18:49,501 --> 01:18:51,303
Consent agenda, item number

1361
01:18:51,303 --> 01:18:52,538
two. Approval of minutes. Item

1362
01:18:52,538 --> 01:18:54,600
number three, approval of the

1363
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,309
amended general record schedule

1364
01:18:56,309 --> 01:18:57,810
for local government agencies.

1365
01:18:57,810 --> 01:18:59,100
Item number four conveyance of

1366
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:00,120
right of way in easements for

1367
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,248
the North Carolina Department

1368
01:19:02,248 --> 01:19:04,648
of Transportation project. Us

1369
01:19:06,451 --> 01:19:08,254
5917. State road 1704 East 14th

1370
01:19:08,254 --> 01:19:11,254
Street. Widening from Red Banks

1371
01:19:12,191 --> 01:19:13,992
Road to State Road 1708. East

1372
01:19:13,992 --> 01:19:15,527
Fire Tower Road. Item number

1373
01:19:15,527 --> 01:19:17,163
five. Resolution authorizing

1374
01:19:17,163 --> 01:19:19,164
the conveyance of city owned

1375
01:19:19,164 --> 01:19:21,334
real property located at 710

1376
01:19:21,334 --> 01:19:23,734
Fleming Street. Parcel number

1377
01:19:24,670 --> 01:19:26,670
06335 and 817 Fleming Street.

1378
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:28,407
Parcel number ten 824 to

1379
01:19:28,407 --> 01:19:29,775
habitat for Humanity of Pitt

1380
01:19:29,775 --> 01:19:30,976
County, I. Number six

1381
01:19:30,976 --> 01:19:32,100
resolution approving lease

1382
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:33,279
agreements for Hazard

1383
01:19:33,279 --> 01:19:34,980
Mitigation grant program

1384
01:19:34,980 --> 01:19:36,381
properties. Item number seven

1385
01:19:36,381 --> 01:19:37,149
renewal of municipal agreements

1386
01:19:37,149 --> 01:19:38,383
with the North Carolina

1387
01:19:38,383 --> 01:19:40,252
Department of Transportation

1388
01:19:40,252 --> 01:19:41,186
for traffic Signal Maintenance,

1389
01:19:41,186 --> 01:19:42,621
item number eight.

1390
01:19:42,621 --> 01:19:44,222
Authorization to apply for

1391
01:19:44,222 --> 01:19:46,222
assistance to Firefighters.

1392
01:19:46,458 --> 01:19:47,993
Grant to fund ems equipment and

1393
01:19:47,993 --> 01:19:49,328
training. Item number nine

1394
01:19:49,328 --> 01:19:50,629
authorization to apply for

1395
01:19:50,629 --> 01:19:52,598
assistance to firefighters.

1396
01:19:52,598 --> 01:19:54,299
Grant to purchase a firefighter

1397
01:19:54,299 --> 01:19:56,268
fighting vehicle. Item number

1398
01:19:56,268 --> 01:19:58,304
ten contract award to Allied

1399
01:19:58,304 --> 01:20:00,206
Universal Security Services for

1400
01:20:00,206 --> 01:20:02,410
security and risk mitigation

1401
01:20:02,410 --> 01:20:03,675
services at gk Butterfield

1402
01:20:03,675 --> 01:20:05,411
Transportation Center. Item

1403
01:20:05,411 --> 01:20:06,712
number 11 construction contract

1404
01:20:06,712 --> 01:20:08,547
award for Woodland Park

1405
01:20:08,547 --> 01:20:09,815
improvements. Item number 12

1406
01:20:09,815 --> 01:20:11,149
purchase of water feature

1407
01:20:11,149 --> 01:20:13,485
equipment for a town common

1408
01:20:13,485 --> 01:20:15,121
bulkhead. Project I, number 13

1409
01:20:15,121 --> 01:20:16,488
construction contract award for

1410
01:20:16,488 --> 01:20:18,623
the Wildwood Park West Side

1411
01:20:18,623 --> 01:20:20,292
Parking and Pier project. Item

1412
01:20:20,292 --> 01:20:21,794
number 14. Requests by police

1413
01:20:21,794 --> 01:20:22,895
department to utilize asset

1414
01:20:22,895 --> 01:20:25,164
forfeiture funds to purchase

1415
01:20:25,164 --> 01:20:26,464
equipment and item number 15.

1416
01:20:26,464 --> 01:20:28,367
Various tax refunds greater

1417
01:20:28,367 --> 01:20:30,690
than $100.

1418
01:20:30,690 --> 01:20:30,202
All right.

1419
01:20:30,202 --> 01:20:32,202
I

1420
01:20:32,237 --> 01:20:33,500
d like to pull item number

1421
01:20:33,500 --> 01:20:34,807
11.

1422
01:20:34,807 --> 01:20:36,942
Motion to. Approve items two.

1423
01:20:36,942 --> 01:20:38,942
Through 15 minus item 11,

1424
01:20:39,477 --> 01:20:40,145
pursuant. COUNCILMAN, of

1425
01:20:40,145 --> 01:20:41,247
course.

1426
01:20:41,247 --> 01:20:41,446
Right.

1427
01:20:41,446 --> 01:20:43,382
That

1428
01:20:43,382 --> 01:20:44,749
s a motion been made by

1429
01:20:44,749 --> 01:20:45,817
Councilmember Robinson. Second

1430
01:20:45,817 --> 01:20:46,785
by Councilmember Willis. All

1431
01:20:46,785 --> 01:20:48,153
those in favor say aye. Aye,

1432
01:20:48,153 --> 01:20:50,880
aye. Those opposed say nay.

1433
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,590
Motion passes five zero.

1434
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:52,557
Move on to item number 11.

1435
01:20:52,557 --> 01:20:54,159
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

1436
01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:56,940
11. Construction contract award

1437
01:20:56,940 --> 01:20:57,996
for Woodland Park improvements.

1438
01:20:57,996 --> 01:20:59,297
I now call forward executive

1439
01:20:59,297 --> 01:21:02,297
director Don Octagon to answer

1440
01:21:03,502 --> 01:21:05,502
any questions.

1441
01:21:07,906 --> 01:21:09,474
Mayor Marion Hardy. Good

1442
01:21:09,474 --> 01:21:11,477
evening, good evening, good

1443
01:21:11,477 --> 01:21:12,645
evening. Yes, sir.

1444
01:21:12,645 --> 01:21:13,345
Glad to answer any question you

1445
01:21:13,345 --> 01:21:14,646
MAY have.

1446
01:21:14,646 --> 01:21:15,547
Uh, know that when we first

1447
01:21:15,547 --> 01:21:17,116
talked about this project,

1448
01:21:17,116 --> 01:21:18,350
there was some different

1449
01:21:18,350 --> 01:21:21,350
features that were up for

1450
01:21:22,287 --> 01:21:25,240
consideration due to their are

1451
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,425
with funding, uh, rollover from

1452
01:21:26,425 --> 01:21:28,460
the Town Common project. And I

1453
01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:30,695
was just wondering if there was

1454
01:21:30,695 --> 01:21:31,863
an exact, you know, detailed

1455
01:21:31,863 --> 01:21:33,310
scope of work that is going to

1456
01:21:33,310 --> 01:21:33,599
be completed over there at, uh,

1457
01:21:33,599 --> 01:21:34,633
Woodland Park.

1458
01:21:34,633 --> 01:21:36,701
Sure. Yeah. So, uh, this

1459
01:21:36,701 --> 01:21:38,370
project is, uh, we received a

1460
01:21:38,370 --> 01:21:39,404
$500,000 Ada grant from the

1461
01:21:39,404 --> 01:21:40,380
state. Uh, so it

1462
01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:42,380
ll be

1463
01:21:42,374 --> 01:21:43,309
enhancing the Ada access, uh,

1464
01:21:43,309 --> 01:21:43,676
in the park. Uh, we

1465
01:21:43,676 --> 01:21:45,277
ll have

1466
01:21:45,277 --> 01:21:47,178
improvements to the shelter,

1467
01:21:47,178 --> 01:21:49,140
have a multi-use, uh, sports

1468
01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:50,382
court on site. We have two Ada

1469
01:21:50,382 --> 01:21:51,983
parking spots, uh, new

1470
01:21:51,983 --> 01:21:52,184
playground equipment. Uh,

1471
01:21:52,184 --> 01:21:53,652
that

1472
01:21:53,652 --> 01:21:54,653
s for ages. Um, for

1473
01:21:54,653 --> 01:21:54,986
teenagers. So that it

1474
01:21:54,986 --> 01:21:55,120
s it

1475
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,621
s

1476
01:21:56,621 --> 01:21:58,624
for the ages that live in the

1477
01:21:58,624 --> 01:22:01,693
in the area. Um, also, we have

1478
01:22:01,693 --> 01:22:03,295
other, um, elements such as a

1479
01:22:03,295 --> 01:22:04,563
foosball table and also

1480
01:22:04,563 --> 01:22:06,298
cornhole, uh, which was

1481
01:22:06,298 --> 01:22:07,332
requested in the, in the, uh,

1482
01:22:07,332 --> 01:22:08,833
input meeting that we had on

1483
01:22:08,833 --> 01:22:11,303
site. Uh, so nothing was cut

1484
01:22:11,303 --> 01:22:12,604
from the, from the project. Um,

1485
01:22:12,604 --> 01:22:13,772
the city itself performing some

1486
01:22:13,772 --> 01:22:15,140
of the items which help lower

1487
01:22:15,140 --> 01:22:16,274
the cost. Um, but we were able

1488
01:22:16,274 --> 01:22:17,343
to move forward with the full

1489
01:22:17,343 --> 01:22:17,710
project design.

1490
01:22:17,710 --> 01:22:19,178
Perfect.

1491
01:22:19,178 --> 01:22:20,946
Thank you.

1492
01:22:20,946 --> 01:22:21,647
Cool.

1493
01:22:21,647 --> 01:22:22,414
Motion to approve.

1494
01:22:22,414 --> 01:22:23,482
Second.

1495
01:22:23,482 --> 01:22:24,383
All right. Motion.

1496
01:22:24,383 --> 01:22:25,617
Councilmember. Already signed

1497
01:22:25,617 --> 01:22:26,318
by Councilmember Robinson. All

1498
01:22:26,318 --> 01:22:27,850
those in favor say aye.

1499
01:22:27,850 --> 01:22:27,786
Aye, aye.

1500
01:22:27,786 --> 01:22:29,754
Opposed.

1501
01:22:29,754 --> 01:22:31,256
Motion passes five zero.

1502
01:22:31,256 --> 01:22:32,958
Hey, before we move into, uh,

1503
01:22:32,958 --> 01:22:33,793
new business. Do you want to

1504
01:22:33,793 --> 01:22:34,192
highlight some of the great

1505
01:22:34,192 --> 01:22:34,693
things that we

1506
01:22:34,693 --> 01:22:35,294
re in that, I

1507
01:22:35,294 --> 01:22:35,427
mean, even though we didn

1508
01:22:35,427 --> 01:22:36,600
t

1509
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:36,461
talk about it, we didn

1510
01:22:36,461 --> 01:22:37,290
t pull.

1511
01:22:37,290 --> 01:22:37,929
Those.

1512
01:22:37,929 --> 01:22:38,163
Yeah. So I tell you, I

1513
01:22:38,163 --> 01:22:40,163
ll tell

1514
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,200
you what. Yeah. You know, uh,

1515
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,200
thank you, mayor, for that,

1516
01:22:45,570 --> 01:22:46,872
because normally many of these

1517
01:22:46,872 --> 01:22:48,473
items would have actually been

1518
01:22:48,473 --> 01:22:50,509
presented as presentations, but

1519
01:22:50,509 --> 01:22:52,577
we just have so many great

1520
01:22:52,577 --> 01:22:53,979
projects on this council agenda

1521
01:22:53,979 --> 01:22:56,215
tonight that we had to

1522
01:22:56,215 --> 01:22:57,149
abbreviate the agenda. But not

1523
01:22:57,149 --> 01:22:58,617
only do we have the

1524
01:22:58,617 --> 01:23:00,586
improvements to Woodlawn Park,

1525
01:23:00,586 --> 01:23:02,954
which have been years in the

1526
01:23:02,954 --> 01:23:03,289
making, we also have a water

1527
01:23:03,289 --> 01:23:04,222
feature that

1528
01:23:04,222 --> 01:23:05,256
s been installed

1529
01:23:05,256 --> 01:23:06,240
down at the town common

1530
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:07,393
bulkhead. It

1531
01:23:07,393 --> 01:23:08,760
s a water feature

1532
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,760
centered around stormwater

1533
01:23:11,329 --> 01:23:13,532
retention and clean energy that

1534
01:23:13,532 --> 01:23:14,299
will be available for kids to

1535
01:23:14,299 --> 01:23:15,867
enjoy. There

1536
01:23:15,867 --> 01:23:18,204
s a contract award

1537
01:23:18,204 --> 01:23:20,972
for Wildwood Park to, uh, to

1538
01:23:20,972 --> 01:23:23,174
build a fishing pier and a and

1539
01:23:23,174 --> 01:23:25,544
a parking lot on the west side.

1540
01:23:25,544 --> 01:23:27,546
That is a project that is, uh,

1541
01:23:27,546 --> 01:23:30,816
been put into place through a

1542
01:23:30,816 --> 01:23:33,216
collaboration with with, um,

1543
01:23:34,386 --> 01:23:36,388
golly bridge, Baton Rouge

1544
01:23:36,388 --> 01:23:38,657
ballot is, uh, he is funding

1545
01:23:38,657 --> 01:23:39,958
that project for us. And so

1546
01:23:39,958 --> 01:23:41,493
just some, some great projects

1547
01:23:41,493 --> 01:23:43,610
that we have that are over

1548
01:23:43,610 --> 01:23:44,429
there in the on the town common

1549
01:23:44,429 --> 01:23:45,630
side.

1550
01:23:45,630 --> 01:23:45,797
Excellent. Yes. All right.

1551
01:23:45,797 --> 01:23:47,332
Let

1552
01:23:47,332 --> 01:23:48,400
s move on to new business.

1553
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,168
All right. Under new business,

1554
01:23:50,168 --> 01:23:51,536
item number 16, presentation by

1555
01:23:51,536 --> 01:23:52,704
boards of commissions. The

1556
01:23:52,704 --> 01:23:54,106
first presentation will have is

1557
01:23:54,106 --> 01:23:55,273
the Multimodal Transportation

1558
01:23:55,273 --> 01:23:56,407
Commission. I will now call

1559
01:23:56,407 --> 01:23:58,244
forward on multimodal

1560
01:23:58,244 --> 01:24:00,644
transportation chair James Byrd

1561
01:24:00,979 --> 01:24:02,979
for the presentation.

1562
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:04,783
MISTER Manager, it looks like,

1563
01:24:04,783 --> 01:24:06,819
um, Doctor Byrd has maybe

1564
01:24:06,819 --> 01:24:08,620
walked out. Is he on the way?

1565
01:24:08,620 --> 01:24:10,789
I think he assumed it was

1566
01:24:10,789 --> 01:24:10,989
longer than that.

1567
01:24:10,989 --> 01:24:11,756
That

1568
01:24:11,756 --> 01:24:12,557
s all right. We can go

1569
01:24:12,557 --> 01:24:13,125
back to him. You want to. Do

1570
01:24:13,125 --> 01:24:13,325
you want to skip? We

1571
01:24:13,325 --> 01:24:13,958
ll go.

1572
01:24:13,958 --> 01:24:14,159
Next to the plan.

1573
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:15,600
That

1574
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:15,227
s fine.

1575
01:24:15,227 --> 01:24:16,161
We

1576
01:24:16,161 --> 01:24:17,162
ll move on to the second

1577
01:24:17,162 --> 01:24:17,829
presentation. The planning and

1578
01:24:17,829 --> 01:24:18,330
zoning Commission. I

1579
01:24:18,330 --> 01:24:20,298
ll call

1580
01:24:20,298 --> 01:24:23,298
for the pnc CHAIRMAN, John

1581
01:24:25,838 --> 01:24:27,306
Collins, for the presentation.

1582
01:24:27,306 --> 01:24:30,575
All right. Well, I have the

1583
01:24:30,575 --> 01:24:32,744
text. All right. So, uh, good

1584
01:24:32,744 --> 01:24:32,878
evening, council members.

1585
01:24:32,878 --> 01:24:34,120
I

1586
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:34,780
m John Collins, I

1587
01:24:34,780 --> 01:24:34,913
m the.

1588
01:24:34,913 --> 01:24:35,780
I

1589
01:24:35,780 --> 01:24:36,715
m sorry. You just got to

1590
01:24:36,715 --> 01:24:37,382
scroll through the PRESIDENT.

1591
01:24:37,382 --> 01:24:37,616
Sure.

1592
01:24:37,616 --> 01:24:38,249
I don

1593
01:24:38,249 --> 01:24:39,584
t really. Let

1594
01:24:39,584 --> 01:24:40,619
s see. All

1595
01:24:40,619 --> 01:24:42,619
right.

1596
01:24:46,358 --> 01:24:46,558
You got this, John.

1597
01:24:46,558 --> 01:24:48,558
Mine

1598
01:24:51,463 --> 01:24:51,796
s a little shorter. We

1599
01:24:51,796 --> 01:24:53,796
ll

1600
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:56,502
get there. All right.

1601
01:24:56,502 --> 01:24:57,802
So I

1602
01:24:57,802 --> 01:24:58,337
m John Collins. I

1603
01:24:58,337 --> 01:24:59,838
m the

1604
01:24:59,838 --> 01:25:01,573
chair of the city of Greenville

1605
01:25:01,573 --> 01:25:03,108
Planning and Zoning Commission,

1606
01:25:03,108 --> 01:25:05,508
planning and zoning Commission

1607
01:25:05,944 --> 01:25:07,279
is composed of seven regular

1608
01:25:07,279 --> 01:25:08,780
members and two alternate

1609
01:25:08,780 --> 01:25:10,115
members that reside inside the

1610
01:25:10,115 --> 01:25:11,450
corporate limits of the city

1611
01:25:11,450 --> 01:25:13,252
and are appointed by the city

1612
01:25:13,252 --> 01:25:14,619
council and two of the regular

1613
01:25:14,619 --> 01:25:16,888
members and one alternate

1614
01:25:16,888 --> 01:25:18,190
member reside in the limits of

1615
01:25:18,190 --> 01:25:20,910
the extraterritorial

1616
01:25:20,910 --> 01:25:21,226
jurisdiction of the city, and

1617
01:25:21,226 --> 01:25:22,727
are appointed by the Pitt

1618
01:25:22,727 --> 01:25:24,195
County Commissioners.

1619
01:25:24,195 --> 01:25:25,931
The purpose.

1620
01:25:25,931 --> 01:25:28,660
Of the Commission is to review

1621
01:25:28,660 --> 01:25:30,466
and make recommendations to

1622
01:25:30,669 --> 01:25:32,504
City Council for rezoning its

1623
01:25:32,504 --> 01:25:34,504
extensions. Text amendments.

1624
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:37,176
Comprehensive plan adoption or

1625
01:25:37,176 --> 01:25:39,176
amendments. Street closings,

1626
01:25:39,210 --> 01:25:40,846
street name changes, and to

1627
01:25:40,846 --> 01:25:42,547
review and make final decisions

1628
01:25:42,547 --> 01:25:44,482
on preliminary subdivision

1629
01:25:44,482 --> 01:25:47,152
plats. All meetings are open to

1630
01:25:47,152 --> 01:25:50,152
the public. Our activity over

1631
01:25:50,188 --> 01:25:52,424
the past year be considered 32

1632
01:25:52,424 --> 01:25:54,459
applications. 14 of them were

1633
01:25:54,459 --> 01:25:56,940
rezoning requests, five were

1634
01:25:56,940 --> 01:25:58,940
text amendments, ten

1635
01:25:58,430 --> 01:26:00,198
preliminary plats, one future

1636
01:26:00,198 --> 01:26:01,966
land use and Character Map

1637
01:26:01,966 --> 01:26:04,366
amendment, and two street

1638
01:26:04,503 --> 01:26:06,838
closings. Now, there are

1639
01:26:06,838 --> 01:26:08,574
significant item of activity

1640
01:26:08,574 --> 01:26:10,776
was the consideration of the

1641
01:26:10,776 --> 01:26:12,776
Unified Development Ordinance,

1642
01:26:13,211 --> 01:26:15,113
or Udo, in preparation, a

1643
01:26:15,113 --> 01:26:16,415
special public meeting was held

1644
01:26:16,415 --> 01:26:17,916
to give the commissioners a

1645
01:26:17,916 --> 01:26:19,685
preliminary view of the major

1646
01:26:19,685 --> 01:26:21,520
changes for the proposed Udo

1647
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,487
and to provide an opportunity

1648
01:26:22,487 --> 01:26:24,923
to ask questions and give

1649
01:26:24,923 --> 01:26:27,323
comments. At the SEPTEMBER

1650
01:26:28,193 --> 01:26:29,127
16th, 2025 Planning and Zoning

1651
01:26:29,127 --> 01:26:30,262
Commission meeting, the

1652
01:26:30,262 --> 01:26:32,300
Commission unanimously

1653
01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:32,831
recommended approval of the

1654
01:26:32,831 --> 01:26:33,832
Udo. I

1655
01:26:33,832 --> 01:26:35,500
d like to thank city

1656
01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:37,969
staff for the preparation of

1657
01:26:37,969 --> 01:26:38,303
the report. Are there any

1658
01:26:38,303 --> 01:26:40,303
questions?

1659
01:26:40,505 --> 01:26:41,973
Any questions?

1660
01:26:41,973 --> 01:26:42,307
Great work.

1661
01:26:42,307 --> 01:26:43,776
Yeah.

1662
01:26:43,776 --> 01:26:46,611
Thank you, thank you, thank you

1663
01:26:46,611 --> 01:26:47,578
for what you do. Thanks. Okay.

1664
01:26:47,578 --> 01:26:47,746
Thank you, mayor. And we

1665
01:26:47,746 --> 01:26:49,746
ll

1666
01:26:49,981 --> 01:26:51,583
move back up to the Multimodal

1667
01:26:51,583 --> 01:26:53,151
Transportation Commission. And

1668
01:26:53,151 --> 01:26:54,453
now call for a multimodal

1669
01:26:54,453 --> 01:26:55,253
transportation chairperson,

1670
01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:57,653
James Burke, for the

1671
01:26:58,857 --> 01:27:00,250
presentation.

1672
01:27:00,250 --> 01:27:01,793
Thank you folks.

1673
01:27:01,793 --> 01:27:03,227
Thank you. So have everybody.

1674
01:27:03,227 --> 01:27:03,661
Doing here tonight. I

1675
01:27:03,661 --> 01:27:04,863
ve had a

1676
01:27:04,863 --> 01:27:06,865
bit of a health issue, so I had

1677
01:27:06,865 --> 01:27:07,132
to step out. So, uh, so I

1678
01:27:07,132 --> 01:27:09,132
m

1679
01:27:09,634 --> 01:27:10,335
happy. Are these my slides?

1680
01:27:10,335 --> 01:27:12,335
Looks like it.

1681
01:27:13,639 --> 01:27:15,639
Yes, sir. Okay.

1682
01:27:17,175 --> 01:27:17,342
My slides next.

1683
01:27:17,342 --> 01:27:19,342
Let

1684
01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:36,762
s see.

1685
01:27:36,762 --> 01:27:37,829
Thank you. Any of you know

1686
01:27:37,829 --> 01:27:39,631
Mona? She

1687
01:27:39,631 --> 01:27:41,300
s the co-chair of my

1688
01:27:41,300 --> 01:27:43,601
committee. And she attends a

1689
01:27:43,601 --> 01:27:45,604
lot of meetings, so thankfully,

1690
01:27:45,604 --> 01:27:46,838
she can help me here. Uh, so

1691
01:27:46,838 --> 01:27:48,206
this is the Greenville

1692
01:27:48,206 --> 01:27:50,206
Multimodal Transportation

1693
01:27:50,475 --> 01:27:52,475
Commission, our 2025 annual

1694
01:27:55,580 --> 01:27:57,215
report. And we want people to

1695
01:27:57,215 --> 01:27:59,751
join us. Several people do join

1696
01:27:59,751 --> 01:28:01,860
us regularly. We meet every

1697
01:28:01,860 --> 01:28:02,120
third Wednesday of every of the

1698
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,622
month. And the months are

1699
01:28:04,622 --> 01:28:06,224
listed here. Uh, we meet at 530

1700
01:28:06,224 --> 01:28:07,292
in the conference room. A great

1701
01:28:07,292 --> 01:28:08,793
conference room at the

1702
01:28:08,793 --> 01:28:10,793
Butterfield Transportation

1703
01:28:10,862 --> 01:28:12,331
Center. So our purpose is to

1704
01:28:12,331 --> 01:28:13,598
advance and encourage

1705
01:28:13,598 --> 01:28:15,300
multimodal options for

1706
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:17,350
community members and visitors

1707
01:28:17,350 --> 01:28:17,302
for Greenville. I think in some

1708
01:28:17,302 --> 01:28:18,470
ways, we

1709
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:20,305
re looking at what are

1710
01:28:20,305 --> 01:28:22,400
the ways to get around town,

1711
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,440
enjoy getting around town

1712
01:28:24,776 --> 01:28:26,378
safely, not in automobiles. So

1713
01:28:26,378 --> 01:28:29,470
whether it be by walking,

1714
01:28:29,470 --> 01:28:30,315
biking, riding, taking a bus.

1715
01:28:30,315 --> 01:28:32,317
Uh, we think there need to be

1716
01:28:32,317 --> 01:28:34,252
other options. And then

1717
01:28:34,252 --> 01:28:36,287
driving. Uh, we hope to provide

1718
01:28:36,287 --> 01:28:38,256
advice and recommendations to

1719
01:28:38,256 --> 01:28:40,792
the city council and issues

1720
01:28:40,792 --> 01:28:42,627
about public transportation,

1721
01:28:42,627 --> 01:28:44,627
micromobility bikes and

1722
01:28:46,698 --> 01:28:46,865
pedestrians. Uh, part of this

1723
01:28:46,865 --> 01:28:47,699
you

1724
01:28:47,699 --> 01:28:49,968
re going to see is very

1725
01:28:49,968 --> 01:28:52,671
similar to last year. Uh, I am

1726
01:28:52,671 --> 01:28:54,473
now the chair. Mona is the

1727
01:28:54,473 --> 01:28:56,274
co-chair. Uh, and the following

1728
01:28:56,274 --> 01:28:58,476
people, uh, three people are

1729
01:28:58,476 --> 01:29:01,120
the new members. Uh, last year

1730
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:01,813
we came to you and, uh, we had

1731
01:29:01,813 --> 01:29:02,614
five members. We

1732
01:29:02,614 --> 01:29:03,782
re two short

1733
01:29:03,782 --> 01:29:05,951
of what the full commission

1734
01:29:05,951 --> 01:29:07,285
would be. The only two people

1735
01:29:07,285 --> 01:29:09,254
remaining from last year are

1736
01:29:09,254 --> 01:29:09,488
MISS Epps and myself. So we

1737
01:29:09,488 --> 01:29:11,488
ve

1738
01:29:11,923 --> 01:29:12,156
had fairly dramatic turnover.

1739
01:29:12,156 --> 01:29:13,257
Uh, we

1740
01:29:13,257 --> 01:29:14,159
ve had at least two of

1741
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:14,326
our meetings where we didn

1742
01:29:14,326 --> 01:29:16,128
t

1743
01:29:16,128 --> 01:29:20,431
have a quorum, so we got a lot

1744
01:29:20,431 --> 01:29:22,100
more done through 2025. And we

1745
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:24,135
just introduced MISTER Nichols,

1746
01:29:24,135 --> 01:29:27,735
MISTER Ramsey and MR. Ruffin at

1747
01:29:28,306 --> 01:29:30,342
our last meeting. So in

1748
01:29:30,342 --> 01:29:31,510
activities, uh, I think one of

1749
01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:34,120
the big ones that we will be

1750
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,914
involved with is the nct dot

1751
01:29:35,914 --> 01:29:37,482
Pedestrian Safety Grant. I

1752
01:29:37,482 --> 01:29:40,151
think that was headed up by

1753
01:29:40,151 --> 01:29:41,920
the, uh, by Kat Dale, who

1754
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,755
previously was the co-chair of

1755
01:29:43,755 --> 01:29:46,755
our committee. Uh, there she

1756
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:49,795
is. Um, and we, I think are

1757
01:29:49,795 --> 01:29:50,428
excited. And we

1758
01:29:50,428 --> 01:29:51,496
ll see in just

1759
01:29:51,496 --> 01:29:53,832
a minute that we have been

1760
01:29:53,832 --> 01:29:56,601
quite excited about the micro

1761
01:29:56,601 --> 01:29:57,836
transit. Uh, uh, launch. I

1762
01:29:57,836 --> 01:29:59,604
presume you folks have heard

1763
01:29:59,604 --> 01:30:02,604
about that and and given

1764
01:30:02,807 --> 01:30:04,609
updates on the, uh, the, uh,

1765
01:30:04,609 --> 01:30:06,211
the rideshare and the

1766
01:30:06,211 --> 01:30:08,246
opportunities to call in for

1767
01:30:08,246 --> 01:30:10,181
rides and the, uh, area one

1768
01:30:10,181 --> 01:30:11,582
about north of the river has

1769
01:30:11,582 --> 01:30:13,385
been pretty exciting with the

1770
01:30:13,385 --> 01:30:13,585
growth from that. And while

1771
01:30:13,585 --> 01:30:14,719
they

1772
01:30:14,719 --> 01:30:16,554
ve continued to maintain

1773
01:30:16,554 --> 01:30:19,554
ridership on the fixed routes

1774
01:30:21,250 --> 01:30:22,627
in that area. So and these are

1775
01:30:22,627 --> 01:30:24,162
the things that have been

1776
01:30:24,162 --> 01:30:26,297
addressed and I think are being

1777
01:30:26,297 --> 01:30:29,100
worked on on a regular basis.

1778
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:31,636
Uh, funding for sidewalk infill,

1779
01:30:31,636 --> 01:30:34,360
uh, working on Ada

1780
01:30:34,105 --> 01:30:35,974
noncompliance, uh, looking at

1781
01:30:35,974 --> 01:30:37,375
we just talked about the Ido,

1782
01:30:37,375 --> 01:30:40,375
uh, but street tree and

1783
01:30:40,411 --> 01:30:42,447
sidewalk ordinances. Um, I am

1784
01:30:42,447 --> 01:30:44,160
going to get a I thought I had

1785
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,817
five minutes, but somebody told

1786
01:30:45,817 --> 01:30:47,485
me I have ten. Uh, at the end

1787
01:30:47,485 --> 01:30:49,320
of my talk, I just have some

1788
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,821
slides of some streets in the

1789
01:30:50,821 --> 01:30:52,924
city. I was going to focus a

1790
01:30:52,924 --> 01:30:53,791
little bit on my street. Why is

1791
01:30:53,791 --> 01:30:54,920
it my street? Because I

1792
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,920
ve

1793
01:30:56,194 --> 01:30:58,163
driven it for at least twice a

1794
01:30:58,163 --> 01:30:59,364
day for the past 25 years,

1795
01:30:59,364 --> 01:31:00,164
coming down Arlington

1796
01:31:00,164 --> 01:31:00,932
Boulevard. It

1797
01:31:00,932 --> 01:31:03,332
s not really my

1798
01:31:03,635 --> 01:31:06,638
street. Um, but it is a street

1799
01:31:06,638 --> 01:31:10,238
this 5.3 miles long, and it has

1800
01:31:10,909 --> 01:31:13,309
a continuous sidewalk for

1801
01:31:14,946 --> 01:31:17,946
99.8%. If anybody up here can

1802
01:31:18,490 --> 01:31:18,182
tell me the 200ft that there

1803
01:31:18,182 --> 01:31:20,170
s

1804
01:31:20,170 --> 01:31:21,186
not a sidewalk, you win a bag

1805
01:31:21,186 --> 01:31:22,454
of candy that I brought with

1806
01:31:22,454 --> 01:31:26,540
me. So does anybody know where

1807
01:31:26,391 --> 01:31:29,528
it is? Okay, well, think about

1808
01:31:29,528 --> 01:31:30,595
it. Uh, historically, my

1809
01:31:30,595 --> 01:31:31,696
teaching partner and I at the

1810
01:31:31,696 --> 01:31:33,640
School of Medicine, we take

1811
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,330
either cookies or candy with

1812
01:31:35,330 --> 01:31:36,670
our group, and sometimes we

1813
01:31:36,670 --> 01:31:37,535
give it out freely, and

1814
01:31:37,535 --> 01:31:39,304
sometimes they have to answer

1815
01:31:39,304 --> 01:31:42,240
questions properly to win a

1816
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:42,607
prize. Uh, I think that we

1817
01:31:42,607 --> 01:31:44,342
ve

1818
01:31:44,342 --> 01:31:46,378
been interested in curb

1819
01:31:46,378 --> 01:31:48,313
extensions issue of using

1820
01:31:48,313 --> 01:31:48,647
billed funds. Uh, and we

1821
01:31:48,647 --> 01:31:50,615
ve had

1822
01:31:50,615 --> 01:31:52,583
great help from agencies in the

1823
01:31:52,583 --> 01:31:54,953
city, individuals, the city.

1824
01:31:54,953 --> 01:31:56,488
And we wanted to highlight Lisa

1825
01:31:56,488 --> 01:31:58,489
Kirby, who I spoke with at

1826
01:31:58,489 --> 01:32:00,291
length today. Uh, Sergeant Erin

1827
01:32:00,291 --> 01:32:02,691
Lemon, Major Montane, Jeff

1828
01:32:03,940 --> 01:32:05,263
Rasco, and again, I think the

1829
01:32:05,263 --> 01:32:08,330
micro transit pilot of some of

1830
01:32:08,330 --> 01:32:09,901
the bus stop upgrades. Um, I

1831
01:32:09,901 --> 01:32:11,837
will point on my road now,

1832
01:32:11,837 --> 01:32:13,837
Arlington Boulevard, between

1833
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:18,209
the fire tower and, uh, and

1834
01:32:18,209 --> 01:32:19,644
there are now six new, uh,

1835
01:32:19,644 --> 01:32:20,712
benches that were not there

1836
01:32:20,712 --> 01:32:22,314
before, which is pretty

1837
01:32:22,314 --> 01:32:22,981
exciting that people waiting

1838
01:32:22,981 --> 01:32:24,282
for buses don

1839
01:32:24,282 --> 01:32:26,682
t have to stand,

1840
01:32:31,156 --> 01:32:33,157
but they can sit. Um, since we

1841
01:32:33,157 --> 01:32:34,893
have three new members I left

1842
01:32:34,893 --> 01:32:36,594
up and read here that we have

1843
01:32:36,594 --> 01:32:38,129
not changed our priorities from

1844
01:32:38,129 --> 01:32:39,464
last year and our first

1845
01:32:39,464 --> 01:32:41,990
meeting. We did not have the

1846
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:42,267
opportunity to get the input

1847
01:32:42,267 --> 01:32:43,902
from the three new members

1848
01:32:43,902 --> 01:32:45,637
about what they would like to

1849
01:32:45,637 --> 01:32:47,738
do with our group over the next

1850
01:32:47,738 --> 01:32:50,408
year, so we stayed with these

1851
01:32:50,408 --> 01:32:50,675
priorities. So, and I think

1852
01:32:50,675 --> 01:32:52,210
that we

1853
01:32:52,210 --> 01:32:54,210
re clearly interested

1854
01:32:54,912 --> 01:32:57,481
in adding bike and pedestrian

1855
01:32:57,481 --> 01:32:59,251
facilities. Um, and I will talk

1856
01:32:59,251 --> 01:33:00,752
a little bit if we look like we

1857
01:33:00,752 --> 01:33:02,820
will get to my slides about how

1858
01:33:02,820 --> 01:33:04,456
we stripe roadways, how we

1859
01:33:04,456 --> 01:33:06,658
stripe the crosswalks that we

1860
01:33:06,658 --> 01:33:09,794
have in the city. And I think,

1861
01:33:09,794 --> 01:33:12,290
uh, looking for uniformity. So

1862
01:33:12,290 --> 01:33:13,898
pedestrians and people who are

1863
01:33:13,898 --> 01:33:15,500
driving understand when they

1864
01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:19,100
come to a corner, uh, what

1865
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,404
these crosswalks mean. Um,

1866
01:33:22,607 --> 01:33:25,607
center lines, um, bike lanes

1867
01:33:25,877 --> 01:33:28,646
are a real challenge. Uh, I was

1868
01:33:28,646 --> 01:33:29,881
originally, uh, approached to

1869
01:33:29,881 --> 01:33:31,616
join this, uh, committee

1870
01:33:31,616 --> 01:33:33,451
because I lived for 20 years in

1871
01:33:33,451 --> 01:33:35,190
Milwaukee, in Minneapolis,

1872
01:33:35,190 --> 01:33:36,588
which are two of the most bike

1873
01:33:36,588 --> 01:33:38,222
friendly, walking friendly

1874
01:33:38,222 --> 01:33:38,956
cities in the United States.

1875
01:33:38,956 --> 01:33:40,558
And there

1876
01:33:40,558 --> 01:33:41,559
s a tremendous number

1877
01:33:41,559 --> 01:33:42,260
of bike lanes, and I

1878
01:33:42,260 --> 01:33:44,260
d love to

1879
01:33:45,296 --> 01:33:47,466
see them here. Uh, again, I

1880
01:33:47,466 --> 01:33:48,600
visited crosswalks and unmarked

1881
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,402
intersections and high

1882
01:33:50,402 --> 01:33:52,300
pedestrian areas. Right now,

1883
01:33:52,300 --> 01:33:53,371
most of our crosswalks will be

1884
01:33:53,371 --> 01:33:55,720
where we have a traffic light

1885
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,472
rather than an unmarked

1886
01:33:59,477 --> 01:34:01,477
intersection. Um, slower

1887
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,247
speeds, safer roads. Uh, this

1888
01:34:03,247 --> 01:34:04,516
past year, you guys lowered the

1889
01:34:04,516 --> 01:34:07,516
speed limit on 10th Street,

1890
01:34:07,619 --> 01:34:08,519
which was a great idea by ecu.

1891
01:34:08,519 --> 01:34:09,530
And I think there

1892
01:34:09,530 --> 01:34:10,555
s other

1893
01:34:10,555 --> 01:34:12,955
opportunities to lower our

1894
01:34:14,792 --> 01:34:14,959
speeds. And then another one is

1895
01:34:14,959 --> 01:34:15,894
we

1896
01:34:15,894 --> 01:34:18,463
d love to get new people

1897
01:34:18,463 --> 01:34:19,797
here. I think that was a pretty

1898
01:34:19,797 --> 01:34:22,366
audacious goal when we said

1899
01:34:22,366 --> 01:34:23,501
that. But I think people like

1900
01:34:23,501 --> 01:34:24,969
to come where they can

1901
01:34:24,969 --> 01:34:27,638
recreate, where they can move

1902
01:34:27,638 --> 01:34:29,600
around the city safely. Uh,

1903
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,675
when I was in Minneapolis going

1904
01:34:30,675 --> 01:34:32,176
to medical school, I could bike

1905
01:34:32,176 --> 01:34:34,445
about seven miles across the

1906
01:34:34,445 --> 01:34:34,579
city safely to and from school.

1907
01:34:34,579 --> 01:34:36,315
I

1908
01:34:36,315 --> 01:34:37,782
d love to be able to have our

1909
01:34:37,782 --> 01:34:41,382
medical students be able to do

1910
01:34:42,354 --> 01:34:46,554
that here in green. So, um, and

1911
01:34:46,791 --> 01:34:46,991
you can read that. So I think

1912
01:34:46,991 --> 01:34:48,580
there

1913
01:34:48,580 --> 01:34:48,259
s a lot going on. There

1914
01:34:48,259 --> 01:34:50,259
s

1915
01:34:52,263 --> 01:34:56,234
a lot left to be done. And then

1916
01:34:56,234 --> 01:34:58,169
we have other opportunities

1917
01:34:58,169 --> 01:34:58,503
that MAY come our way. So I

1918
01:34:58,503 --> 01:34:59,300
ll

1919
01:34:59,300 --> 01:34:59,804
stop there. That

1920
01:34:59,804 --> 01:35:01,306
s what we did.

1921
01:35:01,306 --> 01:35:03,208
And this is sort of extra

1922
01:35:03,208 --> 01:35:04,909
credit to show you guys a few

1923
01:35:04,909 --> 01:35:06,711
things that have caught my

1924
01:35:06,711 --> 01:35:08,460
attention. Yes, I go along

1925
01:35:08,460 --> 01:35:10,446
Arlington Boulevard over the

1926
01:35:11,382 --> 01:35:14,982
past few days, a few weeks, 25

1927
01:35:16,454 --> 01:35:18,189
years. Okay, let me move on.

1928
01:35:18,189 --> 01:35:19,657
This is, uh, if you take a look

1929
01:35:19,657 --> 01:35:22,270
across the road just below the

1930
01:35:22,270 --> 01:35:23,862
American flag, there is a new

1931
01:35:23,862 --> 01:35:26,970
crossing signal there. And this

1932
01:35:26,970 --> 01:35:26,697
is at Arlington and Red banks.

1933
01:35:26,697 --> 01:35:28,650
And that

1934
01:35:28,650 --> 01:35:28,266
s pretty exciting. We

1935
01:35:28,266 --> 01:35:29,267
haven

1936
01:35:29,267 --> 01:35:31,369
t had one of those in a

1937
01:35:31,369 --> 01:35:34,380
long time. I will point out

1938
01:35:34,380 --> 01:35:37,380
that between, uh, uh, Fire

1939
01:35:37,709 --> 01:35:40,545
Tower Road and, uh, and Red

1940
01:35:40,545 --> 01:35:41,979
banks, there is no way to cross

1941
01:35:41,979 --> 01:35:43,648
Arlington. And this is the

1942
01:35:43,648 --> 01:35:45,830
first place where we can cross

1943
01:35:45,830 --> 01:35:45,249
the cross Street. And that

1944
01:35:45,249 --> 01:35:47,249
s

1945
01:35:47,719 --> 01:35:48,953
1.3 miles. So please take a

1946
01:35:48,953 --> 01:35:51,656
look at the crosswalk there.

1947
01:35:51,656 --> 01:35:55,256
This is at Arlington and Red

1948
01:35:55,860 --> 01:35:57,896
Bank. Um, this is at, uh, the

1949
01:35:57,896 --> 01:35:59,664
next place you can cross a

1950
01:35:59,664 --> 01:36:00,931
street on Arlington is at

1951
01:36:00,931 --> 01:36:02,133
Greenville Boulevard. This is

1952
01:36:02,133 --> 01:36:03,601
you can see at the Greenville

1953
01:36:03,601 --> 01:36:04,902
Mall. You can see we have a

1954
01:36:04,902 --> 01:36:06,571
different type of crosswalk

1955
01:36:06,571 --> 01:36:08,673
here. We have one where we have

1956
01:36:08,673 --> 01:36:11,730
the horizontal lines across.

1957
01:36:11,142 --> 01:36:12,811
Uh, I did, and speaking to MISS

1958
01:36:12,811 --> 01:36:14,912
Kirby, uh, apparently this is

1959
01:36:14,912 --> 01:36:16,214
going to be the preferred way

1960
01:36:16,214 --> 01:36:19,160
that we will mark our

1961
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:20,484
crosswalks in the future. And

1962
01:36:20,484 --> 01:36:24,840
even though they have the brand

1963
01:36:25,190 --> 01:36:26,323
new, uh, hand up to, uh, allow

1964
01:36:26,323 --> 01:36:27,580
you to come across the street

1965
01:36:27,580 --> 01:36:28,590
at Red banks, we don

1966
01:36:28,590 --> 01:36:29,894
t have the

1967
01:36:29,894 --> 01:36:31,129
crosshatch at. And hopefully

1968
01:36:31,129 --> 01:36:34,129
that could be coordinated by

1969
01:36:34,399 --> 01:36:35,699
the time that is going. Now, I

1970
01:36:35,699 --> 01:36:36,867
mixed up on putting a slide in

1971
01:36:36,867 --> 01:36:38,203
here. This was supposed to be

1972
01:36:38,203 --> 01:36:41,338
the next place you can cross

1973
01:36:41,338 --> 01:36:43,174
the street, which was at Evans.

1974
01:36:43,174 --> 01:36:46,143
Uh, this happens to be a

1975
01:36:46,143 --> 01:36:49,714
crossing at, uh, I think at,

1976
01:36:49,714 --> 01:36:51,516
um, Memorial in Arlington. But

1977
01:36:51,516 --> 01:36:52,950
the picture is the same. And

1978
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:54,686
what you have here, can you see

1979
01:36:54,686 --> 01:36:58,220
the crosswalk on this side of

1980
01:36:58,220 --> 01:36:59,757
the street? The crosswalk is a

1981
01:36:59,757 --> 01:36:59,925
couple of white dots. There.

1982
01:36:59,925 --> 01:37:01,158
It

1983
01:37:01,158 --> 01:37:01,926
s missing. It

1984
01:37:01,926 --> 01:37:02,930
s been gone.

1985
01:37:02,930 --> 01:37:03,595
It

1986
01:37:03,595 --> 01:37:05,229
s been gone for a long time.

1987
01:37:05,229 --> 01:37:08,829
Uh, that same thing exists when

1988
01:37:08,833 --> 01:37:09,100
you walk across, uh. Uh, Evans,

1989
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:11,100
when you

1990
01:37:11,402 --> 01:37:13,700
re on Arlington. And

1991
01:37:13,700 --> 01:37:15,573
so we have three consecutive

1992
01:37:15,573 --> 01:37:16,941
crosswalks, ones the brand new

1993
01:37:16,941 --> 01:37:17,375
crosswalks is plain. We

1994
01:37:17,375 --> 01:37:18,877
ve got

1995
01:37:18,877 --> 01:37:20,478
the one, the next one, which is

1996
01:37:20,478 --> 01:37:20,978
a crosswalk, fairly well

1997
01:37:20,978 --> 01:37:22,790
painted. It

1998
01:37:22,790 --> 01:37:23,748
s got the the

1999
01:37:23,748 --> 01:37:24,982
horizontal lines. And then we

2000
01:37:24,982 --> 01:37:26,884
have another one that is

2001
01:37:26,884 --> 01:37:28,687
horizontal lines but basically

2002
01:37:28,687 --> 01:37:28,886
not painted. And there

2003
01:37:28,886 --> 01:37:30,886
s a

2004
01:37:31,210 --> 01:37:33,892
question as to how do we get

2005
01:37:33,892 --> 01:37:36,127
around to fixing these things.

2006
01:37:36,127 --> 01:37:37,461
And you know, in this case,

2007
01:37:37,461 --> 01:37:38,797
when I talked to Lisa Kirby,

2008
01:37:38,797 --> 01:37:40,398
she was appreciative. The fact

2009
01:37:40,398 --> 01:37:42,167
that I brought it up and she

2010
01:37:42,167 --> 01:37:43,968
said it could then be by my

2011
01:37:43,968 --> 01:37:46,537
call, be put on the list to be

2012
01:37:46,537 --> 01:37:50,137
put hopefully higher up in the

2013
01:37:51,909 --> 01:37:53,945
queue to be taken care of. So.

2014
01:37:53,945 --> 01:37:56,281
Uh, so this is one of these

2015
01:37:56,281 --> 01:37:58,783
great new benches that we have,

2016
01:37:58,783 --> 01:38:01,318
uh, in Arlington that go from

2017
01:38:01,318 --> 01:38:01,519
fire tower to, to Red banks.

2018
01:38:01,519 --> 01:38:03,540
There

2019
01:38:03,540 --> 01:38:05,556
s six of them over that

2020
01:38:05,556 --> 01:38:07,958
1.3 mile stretch. This is at

2021
01:38:07,958 --> 01:38:10,594
Turtle Creek, and I want to

2022
01:38:10,594 --> 01:38:13,131
step back a little bit. We have,

2023
01:38:13,131 --> 01:38:15,866
um, just before that, we have

2024
01:38:15,866 --> 01:38:17,468
a, uh, a charter school, the

2025
01:38:17,468 --> 01:38:19,868
Walden School, which is

2026
01:38:20,671 --> 01:38:23,671
adjacent to this daycare on

2027
01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:27,110
Arlington. Oh, now, this slide,

2028
01:38:27,110 --> 01:38:28,579
this. Oh, well, and what we

2029
01:38:28,579 --> 01:38:31,116
have there is so we have a

2030
01:38:31,116 --> 01:38:32,550
school. We have we have six

2031
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:34,118
benches. And then that whole

2032
01:38:34,118 --> 01:38:34,552
stretch on either side of the

2033
01:38:34,552 --> 01:38:35,220
road, if you

2034
01:38:35,220 --> 01:38:36,554
re down there, you

2035
01:38:36,554 --> 01:38:39,157
know, there are businesses. I

2036
01:38:39,157 --> 01:38:40,425
will say that on the sidewalk

2037
01:38:40,425 --> 01:38:41,159
that goes from.

2038
01:38:41,159 --> 01:38:43,159
Uh.

2039
01:38:43,361 --> 01:38:46,361
From Fire Flower to fifth

2040
01:38:46,664 --> 01:38:48,166
Street, every street, every

2041
01:38:48,166 --> 01:38:49,600
business, there is an

2042
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,301
appropriate cut out for

2043
01:38:51,301 --> 01:38:52,637
wheelchairs and other wheeled

2044
01:38:52,637 --> 01:38:52,803
ability to get down. That

2045
01:38:52,803 --> 01:38:53,637
s

2046
01:38:53,637 --> 01:38:54,505
pretty awesome. It

2047
01:38:54,505 --> 01:38:56,505
s absolutely

2048
01:38:57,808 --> 01:39:00,770
uniform. Uh, but we now have

2049
01:39:00,770 --> 01:39:02,313
buses and we have six benches,

2050
01:39:02,313 --> 01:39:04,215
and we have many people who

2051
01:39:04,215 --> 01:39:06,484
reside on either side of

2052
01:39:06,484 --> 01:39:08,185
Arlington. But the people who

2053
01:39:08,185 --> 01:39:09,987
are on the west side of

2054
01:39:09,987 --> 01:39:11,289
Arlington, the question is, how

2055
01:39:11,289 --> 01:39:12,990
do they get across the street

2056
01:39:12,990 --> 01:39:14,158
to be able to access the bus to

2057
01:39:14,158 --> 01:39:17,861
go where? If they would like to

2058
01:39:17,861 --> 01:39:18,396
go? And I think to me, as you

2059
01:39:18,396 --> 01:39:18,930
know, somebody who

2060
01:39:18,930 --> 01:39:19,797
s lived here

2061
01:39:19,797 --> 01:39:20,831
for a long time, who

2062
01:39:20,831 --> 01:39:22,433
s an older

2063
01:39:22,433 --> 01:39:22,667
guy, MR. Cavallini, who

2064
01:39:22,667 --> 01:39:23,701
s been

2065
01:39:23,701 --> 01:39:24,235
here 41 years, I

2066
01:39:24,235 --> 01:39:26,235
ve only been

2067
01:39:27,539 --> 01:39:29,807
here 31 years. Uh, I think part

2068
01:39:29,807 --> 01:39:31,750
of being on a, citizen

2069
01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:31,576
commission is to say we

2070
01:39:31,576 --> 01:39:33,576
re just

2071
01:39:33,911 --> 01:39:36,180
use common sense. If we want

2072
01:39:36,180 --> 01:39:36,347
people to ride the buses and

2073
01:39:36,347 --> 01:39:38,820
we

2074
01:39:38,820 --> 01:39:39,851
ve got a busy road that is

2075
01:39:39,851 --> 01:39:41,852
extremely hard to cross. You

2076
01:39:41,852 --> 01:39:43,540
know, we have three delineated

2077
01:39:43,540 --> 01:39:45,323
cars that are on the roads

2078
01:39:45,323 --> 01:39:47,491
between fire Tower and Red

2079
01:39:47,491 --> 01:39:49,593
banks because there are so many

2080
01:39:49,593 --> 01:39:51,993
challenges with people turning

2081
01:39:52,497 --> 01:39:53,665
left either off Arlington, onto

2082
01:39:53,665 --> 01:39:54,332
Arlington, and we

2083
01:39:54,332 --> 01:39:56,332
ve had many

2084
01:39:57,535 --> 01:39:58,569
accidents. Um, so yes, we move

2085
01:39:58,569 --> 01:39:59,671
ahead. Those are some of the

2086
01:39:59,671 --> 01:40:01,500
things that we would like to

2087
01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:03,440
discuss. We would like to bring

2088
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:06,177
back to your attention at at

2089
01:40:06,177 --> 01:40:06,877
future dates. So that was my

2090
01:40:06,877 --> 01:40:07,911
extra credit.

2091
01:40:07,911 --> 01:40:09,314
To them.

2092
01:40:09,314 --> 01:40:11,849
All right. So anybody would

2093
01:40:11,849 --> 01:40:12,150
know where the 200ft that we

2094
01:40:12,150 --> 01:40:13,718
don

2095
01:40:13,718 --> 01:40:14,284
t have a sidewalk. And MISS

2096
01:40:14,284 --> 01:40:14,986
Kirby said they

2097
01:40:14,986 --> 01:40:16,986
ll look into

2098
01:40:17,788 --> 01:40:19,123
it. So one of the delineations

2099
01:40:19,123 --> 01:40:20,458
that comes off Wimbledon, if

2100
01:40:20,458 --> 01:40:22,693
you turn right on Wimbledon and

2101
01:40:22,693 --> 01:40:24,495
start heading south on on

2102
01:40:24,495 --> 01:40:26,970
Arlington at the end of the

2103
01:40:26,970 --> 01:40:28,165
delineated, they created a

2104
01:40:28,165 --> 01:40:30,100
u-turn area and they created

2105
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:32,470
the u-turn area. They cut out

2106
01:40:32,470 --> 01:40:34,500
and took away the, uh, the

2107
01:40:34,500 --> 01:40:34,405
sidewalk there. So that

2108
01:40:34,405 --> 01:40:35,306
s the

2109
01:40:35,306 --> 01:40:35,673
only spot where we don

2110
01:40:35,673 --> 01:40:36,774
t have

2111
01:40:36,774 --> 01:40:38,242
it. And it

2112
01:40:38,242 --> 01:40:40,311
s and I will say in

2113
01:40:40,311 --> 01:40:41,779
my time, the number of people

2114
01:40:41,779 --> 01:40:43,948
who walk on the sidewalk along

2115
01:40:43,948 --> 01:40:46,250
Arlington has increased quite

2116
01:40:46,250 --> 01:40:47,452
dramatically over time. Uh,

2117
01:40:47,452 --> 01:40:47,918
both for the people who live in

2118
01:40:47,918 --> 01:40:48,285
the area. There

2119
01:40:48,285 --> 01:40:49,520
s a lot of

2120
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:50,354
people pushing their kids out

2121
01:40:50,354 --> 01:40:51,422
there. So it

2122
01:40:51,422 --> 01:40:51,689
s become popular.

2123
01:40:51,689 --> 01:40:52,890
And that

2124
01:40:52,890 --> 01:40:54,890
s that

2125
01:40:55,126 --> 01:40:57,328
s very good. So.

2126
01:40:57,328 --> 01:40:57,495
And Mona Epps is with me today.

2127
01:40:57,495 --> 01:40:59,163
We

2128
01:40:59,163 --> 01:41:00,765
re the people who will carry

2129
01:41:00,765 --> 01:41:02,800
on for the next year with some

2130
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,169
of our new members. If few

2131
01:41:05,169 --> 01:41:07,104
people have folks who you could

2132
01:41:07,104 --> 01:41:08,138
send our way. Uh, with cattail

2133
01:41:08,138 --> 01:41:09,573
leaving, we really need

2134
01:41:09,573 --> 01:41:11,750
somebody from the biking

2135
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:11,542
community. And we

2136
01:41:11,542 --> 01:41:13,177
d like to

2137
01:41:13,177 --> 01:41:14,979
have somebody who walks or runs.

2138
01:41:14,979 --> 01:41:16,447
And, uh, I have approached

2139
01:41:16,447 --> 01:41:18,483
three people without success so

2140
01:41:18,483 --> 01:41:19,917
far.

2141
01:41:19,917 --> 01:41:21,385
If I MAY, mayor.

2142
01:41:21,385 --> 01:41:23,200
Uh, I just wanted to make a

2143
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:25,523
comment and ask a question as

2144
01:41:25,523 --> 01:41:27,157
well. Um, first, my comment is

2145
01:41:27,157 --> 01:41:29,193
that it sounds like this

2146
01:41:29,193 --> 01:41:31,162
commission is doing exactly

2147
01:41:31,162 --> 01:41:33,264
what it was designed to do, and

2148
01:41:33,264 --> 01:41:34,732
that you have found areas of

2149
01:41:34,732 --> 01:41:36,233
improvement and been able to

2150
01:41:36,233 --> 01:41:38,200
communicate with city staff.

2151
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:38,502
And as you said, she

2152
01:41:38,502 --> 01:41:40,502
s MISS

2153
01:41:40,872 --> 01:41:42,973
Kirby is taking it. And we can

2154
01:41:42,973 --> 01:41:43,374
now respond to the request. So

2155
01:41:43,374 --> 01:41:44,442
I think that

2156
01:41:44,442 --> 01:41:46,110
s a great thing.

2157
01:41:46,110 --> 01:41:48,145
Um, I appreciate your

2158
01:41:48,145 --> 01:41:50,545
willingness to serve. Number

2159
01:41:50,848 --> 01:41:52,182
two, the question is, um, have

2160
01:41:52,182 --> 01:41:55,586
you had an opportunity to talk

2161
01:41:55,586 --> 01:41:57,754
with MISS Kirby about calming

2162
01:41:57,754 --> 01:41:59,560
mechanisms, mechanisms within

2163
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:00,491
neighborhoods? Because we just

2164
01:42:00,491 --> 01:42:00,725
had a conversation about that.

2165
01:42:00,725 --> 01:42:01,726
And I

2166
01:42:01,726 --> 01:42:02,560
m just curious if you MAY

2167
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:03,861
be able to help.

2168
01:42:03,861 --> 01:42:06,300
Yeah, that has not been

2169
01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:08,166
anything that we have

2170
01:42:08,166 --> 01:42:09,400
discussed. No.

2171
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:09,533
Okay. I think there

2172
01:42:09,533 --> 01:42:11,169
s

2173
01:42:11,169 --> 01:42:13,338
opportunity there for their

2174
01:42:13,338 --> 01:42:15,406
input. Michael, um, we talked

2175
01:42:15,406 --> 01:42:17,708
about calming mechanisms within

2176
01:42:17,708 --> 01:42:18,776
neighborhoods and how there are

2177
01:42:18,776 --> 01:42:19,476
disparities in different

2178
01:42:19,476 --> 01:42:20,770
districts that we

2179
01:42:20,770 --> 01:42:21,311
ve seen. We

2180
01:42:21,311 --> 01:42:23,711
just received that information

2181
01:42:24,248 --> 01:42:24,415
in our workshop. And so as

2182
01:42:24,415 --> 01:42:25,683
we

2183
01:42:25,683 --> 01:42:28,683
re looking forward to just

2184
01:42:28,785 --> 01:42:29,420
kind of see how the it wasn

2185
01:42:29,420 --> 01:42:31,420
t a

2186
01:42:31,922 --> 01:42:33,491
formula, it was a rubric. What

2187
01:42:33,491 --> 01:42:36,491
was the proper term point

2188
01:42:36,627 --> 01:42:39,630
system? There we go. Um, as we

2189
01:42:39,630 --> 01:42:40,698
look at a point system as to

2190
01:42:40,698 --> 01:42:43,980
how different neighborhoods in

2191
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:44,635
the city get calming

2192
01:42:44,635 --> 01:42:45,903
mechanisms, we need a little

2193
01:42:45,903 --> 01:42:49,503
help on trying to figure out

2194
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,308
how we can more evenly disperse

2195
01:42:51,308 --> 01:42:53,440
those mechanisms. Based on the

2196
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:53,978
requests that we get from

2197
01:42:53,978 --> 01:42:54,177
neighborhoods. So I think

2198
01:42:54,177 --> 01:42:55,513
that

2199
01:42:55,513 --> 01:42:56,748
s an opportunity where you

2200
01:42:56,748 --> 01:42:57,915
might be able to help us.

2201
01:42:57,915 --> 01:42:59,216
i agree with you some of the

2202
01:42:59,216 --> 01:42:59,416
calming things that we use

2203
01:42:59,416 --> 01:43:00,584
aren

2204
01:43:00,584 --> 01:43:02,353
t very expensive. And

2205
01:43:02,353 --> 01:43:04,722
sometimes you want you want a

2206
01:43:04,722 --> 01:43:05,757
fairly inexpensive fix to a

2207
01:43:05,757 --> 01:43:06,257
simple problem. It

2208
01:43:06,257 --> 01:43:06,824
s common

2209
01:43:06,824 --> 01:43:08,492
sense.

2210
01:43:08,492 --> 01:43:10,127
While keeping people safe.

2211
01:43:10,127 --> 01:43:10,828
So keeping people safe for

2212
01:43:10,828 --> 01:43:12,162
sure.

2213
01:43:12,162 --> 01:43:13,130
Awesome. If we can make sure

2214
01:43:13,130 --> 01:43:14,431
that we make that happen.

2215
01:43:14,431 --> 01:43:18,310
Michael, I think that would be

2216
01:43:18,702 --> 01:43:20,702
beneficial to us.

2217
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:21,238
We can take care of it. So

2218
01:43:21,238 --> 01:43:22,440
we

2219
01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:24,875
ll ask Donna to put it on

2220
01:43:24,875 --> 01:43:27,378
the agenda. We will, for our

2221
01:43:27,378 --> 01:43:27,978
second, not the next meeting.

2222
01:43:27,978 --> 01:43:28,179
Right?

2223
01:43:28,179 --> 01:43:28,345
Yes.

2224
01:43:28,345 --> 01:43:29,914
Ma

2225
01:43:29,914 --> 01:43:30,800
am.

2226
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:30,981
She

2227
01:43:30,981 --> 01:43:32,716
s taking care of me

2228
01:43:32,716 --> 01:43:34,218
tonight. Thanks.

2229
01:43:34,218 --> 01:43:34,952
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you

2230
01:43:34,952 --> 01:43:35,553
for coming out.

2231
01:43:35,553 --> 01:43:36,530
All right. We

2232
01:43:36,530 --> 01:43:38,453
ll move on to

2233
01:43:38,522 --> 01:43:39,991
item number 17.

2234
01:43:39,991 --> 01:43:42,693
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

2235
01:43:42,693 --> 01:43:44,328
17. Construction contract award

2236
01:43:44,328 --> 01:43:45,796
for a boardwalk to connect

2237
01:43:45,796 --> 01:43:46,464
Wildwood Park to River Park

2238
01:43:46,464 --> 01:43:47,231
North. I

2239
01:43:47,231 --> 01:43:49,330
ll call it our

2240
01:43:49,330 --> 01:43:50,201
projects manager, Mark

2241
01:43:50,201 --> 01:43:52,201
Nottingham, with the

2242
01:43:56,507 --> 01:43:57,241
presentation.

2243
01:43:57,241 --> 01:43:57,408
Council.

2244
01:43:57,408 --> 01:43:59,408
It

2245
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:59,677
s a good timing. Uh, since

2246
01:43:59,677 --> 01:43:59,810
we

2247
01:43:59,810 --> 01:44:00,777
ve.

2248
01:44:00,777 --> 01:44:02,680
Just fallen off the multimodal

2249
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,249
commission and talk about a

2250
01:44:05,249 --> 01:44:08,180
multimodal project here at our

2251
01:44:08,180 --> 01:44:09,220
park. Um, just to remind

2252
01:44:09,220 --> 01:44:10,388
everybody where this project is

2253
01:44:10,388 --> 01:44:11,822
located, showing the Wildwood

2254
01:44:11,822 --> 01:44:14,191
Park map that shows the network

2255
01:44:14,191 --> 01:44:15,392
of trails there. Um, on your

2256
01:44:15,392 --> 01:44:16,694
consent agenda was also the

2257
01:44:16,694 --> 01:44:18,162
fishing pier that Michael

2258
01:44:18,162 --> 01:44:19,964
mentioned. Um, you can see

2259
01:44:19,964 --> 01:44:20,998
that, uh, location on the

2260
01:44:20,998 --> 01:44:21,432
northern part of the lake

2261
01:44:21,432 --> 01:44:22,990
there. So I

2262
01:44:22,990 --> 01:44:23,934
ll provide that

2263
01:44:23,934 --> 01:44:25,502
first, you know, uh, improved

2264
01:44:25,502 --> 01:44:27,237
access to that side of Wildwood

2265
01:44:27,237 --> 01:44:28,306
Park, and then you can see the

2266
01:44:28,306 --> 01:44:30,700
location of the boardwalk

2267
01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:31,676
project here, connecting to the

2268
01:44:31,676 --> 01:44:33,440
easternmost portion of the

2269
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,812
existing trail at River Park,

2270
01:44:35,812 --> 01:44:38,549
North. Uh, this is just a

2271
01:44:38,549 --> 01:44:39,917
zoomed out, uh, map of our park

2272
01:44:39,917 --> 01:44:40,117
and River Park. North York

2273
01:44:40,117 --> 01:44:41,786
City

2274
01:44:41,786 --> 01:44:44,870
s two largest parks. River

2275
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:44,421
Park North is over 400 acres,

2276
01:44:44,421 --> 01:44:46,421
while it

2277
01:44:47,825 --> 01:44:49,930
s about 365. Um, and

2278
01:44:49,930 --> 01:44:50,940
they they touch each other. So

2279
01:44:50,940 --> 01:44:51,895
this boardwalk will really

2280
01:44:51,895 --> 01:44:53,597
connect those those two parks,

2281
01:44:53,597 --> 01:44:54,732
uh, and their trail networks.

2282
01:44:54,732 --> 01:44:56,200
River Park North has like five

2283
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:57,468
miles of existing trails.

2284
01:44:57,468 --> 01:44:59,470
Wildwood has five miles of

2285
01:44:59,470 --> 01:45:01,338
trails, in addition to six

2286
01:45:01,338 --> 01:45:03,840
miles of mountain bike trails.

2287
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:05,677
Um, so this really connects,

2288
01:45:05,677 --> 01:45:07,678
uh, quite a network of existing

2289
01:45:07,678 --> 01:45:09,130
trails. And then, uh, you can

2290
01:45:09,130 --> 01:45:10,681
see the proposed north south

2291
01:45:10,681 --> 01:45:11,381
connector that, um, our

2292
01:45:11,381 --> 01:45:11,649
engineering department

2293
01:45:11,649 --> 01:45:13,840
s

2294
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:14,751
working on with ncdot that will

2295
01:45:14,751 --> 01:45:16,320
connect Town Common in the

2296
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:17,555
South Tar River Greenway. Uh,

2297
01:45:17,555 --> 01:45:18,789
two Rear Park North, which

2298
01:45:18,789 --> 01:45:19,824
will, you know, with this

2299
01:45:19,824 --> 01:45:20,758
project being completed,

2300
01:45:20,758 --> 01:45:22,758
connect to Wildwood.

2301
01:45:23,995 --> 01:45:25,830
Park.

2302
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:28,320
Um, so, just as a reminder, the

2303
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:29,633
city, uh, in FEBRUARY, uh, got

2304
01:45:29,633 --> 01:45:31,635
notified that we did receive a

2305
01:45:31,635 --> 01:45:34,635
great, great, great trail state

2306
01:45:34,905 --> 01:45:36,340
grant. Um, or $500,000 to go

2307
01:45:36,340 --> 01:45:37,574
towards this project. Uh, this

2308
01:45:37,574 --> 01:45:39,974
project has been designed

2309
01:45:40,244 --> 01:45:40,411
since, um, like 2022. I mean,

2310
01:45:40,411 --> 01:45:41,278
it

2311
01:45:41,278 --> 01:45:42,846
s been in the works for a

2312
01:45:42,846 --> 01:45:44,148
while. We completed some of the

2313
01:45:44,148 --> 01:45:45,583
other elements of the project,

2314
01:45:45,583 --> 01:45:47,251
like the boardwalk on the east

2315
01:45:47,251 --> 01:45:50,851
side of Wildwood Park. Uh, so

2316
01:45:51,155 --> 01:45:52,523
this is, uh, 685ft, uh, to

2317
01:45:52,523 --> 01:45:54,858
connect Wildwood to River Park,

2318
01:45:54,858 --> 01:45:55,893
North. Um, this was, you know,

2319
01:45:55,893 --> 01:45:57,661
recommended in the Walmart.

2320
01:45:57,661 --> 01:45:57,929
Wildwood Park master plan. And

2321
01:45:57,929 --> 01:45:59,229
the city

2322
01:45:59,229 --> 01:46:01,465
s, uh, recreation park

2323
01:46:01,465 --> 01:46:04,000
master plan as well. So, uh, we

2324
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:05,403
received three bids, um, for

2325
01:46:05,403 --> 01:46:06,770
construction and td, your

2326
01:46:06,770 --> 01:46:08,439
marine construction, uh, came

2327
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:10,400
in with the lowest bid. We did

2328
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:11,241
have to remove an overlooked

2329
01:46:11,241 --> 01:46:14,841
portion of the project to get

2330
01:46:14,912 --> 01:46:16,346
it closer to budget. Um, so our

2331
01:46:16,346 --> 01:46:18,182
recommendation is to award the

2332
01:46:18,182 --> 01:46:19,216
construction contract to tdo or

2333
01:46:19,216 --> 01:46:21,616
marine construction in the

2334
01:46:24,540 --> 01:46:24,187
amount of $1,505,000. We

2335
01:46:24,187 --> 01:46:25,256
re

2336
01:46:25,256 --> 01:46:25,856
glad to answer any questions

2337
01:46:25,856 --> 01:46:27,856
you might have.

2338
01:46:29,793 --> 01:46:30,761
Any questions? Anybody want to

2339
01:46:30,761 --> 01:46:32,196
make a motion.

2340
01:46:32,196 --> 01:46:33,497
To approve? Second.

2341
01:46:33,497 --> 01:46:34,331
All right. Motion made by

2342
01:46:34,331 --> 01:46:35,199
Councilmember Hardy. Second.

2343
01:46:35,199 --> 01:46:37,199
Councilmember Robinson. Any

2344
01:46:37,634 --> 01:46:39,300
other discussion? All those in

2345
01:46:39,300 --> 01:46:39,970
favor say aye. Aye, aye. Those

2346
01:46:39,970 --> 01:46:41,970
opposed say nay.

2347
01:46:42,138 --> 01:46:43,574
Motion passes five zero.

2348
01:46:43,574 --> 01:46:44,441
Thank you very much. Move on.

2349
01:46:44,441 --> 01:46:45,376
Item 18.

2350
01:46:45,376 --> 01:46:47,678
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

2351
01:46:47,678 --> 01:46:49,346
18. Construction contract award

2352
01:46:49,346 --> 01:46:51,515
for the site work at the North

2353
01:46:51,515 --> 01:46:52,817
Recreational Complex. You can

2354
01:46:52,817 --> 01:46:55,152
call forward our executive

2355
01:46:55,152 --> 01:46:56,320
director, Don Octagon, for the

2356
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:56,620
presentation.

2357
01:46:56,620 --> 01:46:57,988
Hi.

2358
01:46:57,988 --> 01:46:58,823
Good evening again.

2359
01:46:58,823 --> 01:47:00,224
Good evening.

2360
01:47:00,224 --> 01:47:01,325
All right, so, um, this, uh,

2361
01:47:01,325 --> 01:47:03,193
this is actually a two, two

2362
01:47:03,193 --> 01:47:04,194
part item. Item 18 is for the

2363
01:47:04,194 --> 01:47:05,696
site work for this, uh,

2364
01:47:05,696 --> 01:47:07,364
construction project. And item

2365
01:47:07,364 --> 01:47:08,765
19 is the synthetic turf

2366
01:47:08,765 --> 01:47:08,899
purchase. Uh, but first we

2367
01:47:08,899 --> 01:47:09,867
ll

2368
01:47:09,867 --> 01:47:11,168
talk about the, uh,

2369
01:47:11,168 --> 01:47:12,836
construction contract, which

2370
01:47:12,836 --> 01:47:15,206
includes all site work. This is

2371
01:47:15,206 --> 01:47:16,707
a quick reminder of the review

2372
01:47:16,707 --> 01:47:18,509
of ecu and city lease. Uh,

2373
01:47:18,509 --> 01:47:20,440
timeline. Uh, so back in

2374
01:47:20,440 --> 01:47:21,440
SEPTEMBER, uh, City council

2375
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:23,444
approved the proposed lease

2376
01:47:24,815 --> 01:47:25,783
terms. SEPTEMBER 2025, uh, City

2377
01:47:25,783 --> 01:47:27,417
Council approved the proposed

2378
01:47:27,417 --> 01:47:29,190
lease terms with ecu to operate

2379
01:47:29,190 --> 01:47:31,588
on the Rec. Um, city staff will

2380
01:47:31,588 --> 01:47:33,190
be, uh, operating that complex

2381
01:47:33,190 --> 01:47:34,224
fully in JANUARY. Uh, the

2382
01:47:34,224 --> 01:47:35,126
transition is still going

2383
01:47:35,126 --> 01:47:35,258
smooth with ecu, so we

2384
01:47:35,258 --> 01:47:36,661
re

2385
01:47:36,661 --> 01:47:38,595
looking forward to that. Uh,

2386
01:47:38,595 --> 01:47:40,300
back in NOVEMBER, um, City

2387
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:41,980
Council approved the design

2388
01:47:41,980 --> 01:47:42,233
service agreement for nrc

2389
01:47:42,233 --> 01:47:44,340
improvements, which got us here

2390
01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:44,968
tonight for the, uh, consider

2391
01:47:44,968 --> 01:47:45,335
approval of the construction

2392
01:47:45,335 --> 01:47:45,702
contract.

2393
01:47:45,702 --> 01:47:46,570
For site.

2394
01:47:46,570 --> 01:47:48,380
Work.

2395
01:47:48,380 --> 01:47:50,140
Uh, this is also a reminder

2396
01:47:50,140 --> 01:47:52,800
that the sports complex task

2397
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,378
force recommendation, uh, in

2398
01:47:54,378 --> 01:47:55,646
JANUARY 2025, included, uh, the

2399
01:47:55,646 --> 01:47:57,114
successful, if successful

2400
01:47:57,114 --> 01:47:58,482
negotiation with ecu, uh, that

2401
01:47:58,482 --> 01:48:00,151
we move forward with the

2402
01:48:00,151 --> 01:48:01,319
design. Uh, that design, of

2403
01:48:01,319 --> 01:48:01,485
course, is complete. So tonight

2404
01:48:01,485 --> 01:48:02,850
we

2405
01:48:02,850 --> 01:48:04,850
re reviewing the

2406
01:48:04,354 --> 01:48:05,856
construction contract. So the

2407
01:48:05,856 --> 01:48:08,225
focus area work is seen here.

2408
01:48:08,225 --> 01:48:09,727
So this is east, uh, east north

2409
01:48:09,727 --> 01:48:10,270
recreational complex. Uh, it

2410
01:48:10,270 --> 01:48:12,270
s

2411
01:48:12,562 --> 01:48:14,365
128 acre complex located on

2412
01:48:14,365 --> 01:48:15,699
highway 264. Has currently has

2413
01:48:15,699 --> 01:48:17,467
eight rectangle natural grass

2414
01:48:17,467 --> 01:48:19,103
fields with lights. Uh, to host

2415
01:48:19,103 --> 01:48:20,437
soccer, lacrosse, tackle, flag

2416
01:48:20,437 --> 01:48:22,837
football and other rectangle

2417
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:24,941
sports. Uh, the scope of work

2418
01:48:24,941 --> 01:48:26,743
for this contract will include

2419
01:48:26,743 --> 01:48:28,378
grading and subgrade

2420
01:48:28,378 --> 01:48:30,378
preparation, installation of

2421
01:48:30,547 --> 01:48:31,682
new stormwater infrastructure,

2422
01:48:31,682 --> 01:48:32,549
uh, and drainage improvements

2423
01:48:32,549 --> 01:48:33,884
necessary to support the

2424
01:48:33,884 --> 01:48:35,884
reconstructed athletic fields

2425
01:48:36,420 --> 01:48:38,222
and improve on site stormwater.

2426
01:48:38,222 --> 01:48:40,124
Again, the focus area here is

2427
01:48:40,124 --> 01:48:41,158
in that red is outlined there.

2428
01:48:41,158 --> 01:48:42,426
The four fields outlined will

2429
01:48:42,426 --> 01:48:46,626
be the ones that will be part

2430
01:48:46,730 --> 01:48:49,366
of the construction. Uh JULY

2431
01:48:49,366 --> 01:48:50,268
2028 JULY 28th, 2026. The city

2432
01:48:50,268 --> 01:48:51,602
received four bids for the

2433
01:48:51,602 --> 01:48:53,336
construction of the site

2434
01:48:53,336 --> 01:48:54,137
working nrc, uh, Fred Smith

2435
01:48:54,137 --> 01:48:55,906
Company has the lowest

2436
01:48:55,906 --> 01:48:57,140
responsive and responsible bid.

2437
01:48:57,140 --> 01:48:58,843
Uh, one site work is complete

2438
01:48:58,843 --> 01:48:59,843
in 2027. Charlotte Sports Turf

2439
01:48:59,843 --> 01:49:01,245
will install the synthetic

2440
01:49:01,245 --> 01:49:02,612
turf, which is the next item.

2441
01:49:02,612 --> 01:49:04,448
Uh, shown here is the

2442
01:49:04,448 --> 01:49:05,883
construction site plan, uh,

2443
01:49:05,883 --> 01:49:07,170
shows the four fields, uh, two

2444
01:49:07,170 --> 01:49:08,886
of the fields. We focus on

2445
01:49:08,886 --> 01:49:10,453
soccer. Uh, and then the two

2446
01:49:10,453 --> 01:49:12,823
other fields will be focused on

2447
01:49:12,823 --> 01:49:14,570
lacrosse. Um, grass fields. And

2448
01:49:14,570 --> 01:49:15,526
these fields can usually be can

2449
01:49:15,526 --> 01:49:16,794
be used for other sports. But

2450
01:49:16,794 --> 01:49:18,195
the main sports that the lines

2451
01:49:18,195 --> 01:49:20,197
will hold. Uh, the permanent

2452
01:49:20,197 --> 01:49:22,366
lines will be soccer and

2453
01:49:22,366 --> 01:49:23,600
lacrosse. Uh, so our

2454
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,101
recommendation is to award the

2455
01:49:25,101 --> 01:49:27,501
construction contract to Fred

2456
01:49:27,771 --> 01:49:30,507
Smith Company in the amount of

2457
01:49:30,507 --> 01:49:32,109
$4,032,876 and authorize the

2458
01:49:32,109 --> 01:49:33,677
city manager and mayor to

2459
01:49:33,677 --> 01:49:34,177
execute the acquired contract

2460
01:49:34,177 --> 01:49:34,545
documents. I

2461
01:49:34,545 --> 01:49:35,912
ll be glad to

2462
01:49:35,912 --> 01:49:37,114
answer any questions.

2463
01:49:37,114 --> 01:49:38,382
Any questions?

2464
01:49:38,382 --> 01:49:40,584
I have a question, mayor. Um,

2465
01:49:40,584 --> 01:49:41,518
what other sports can be can be

2466
01:49:41,518 --> 01:49:43,860
played on those fields. You

2467
01:49:43,860 --> 01:49:44,288
mentioned about that primarily

2468
01:49:44,288 --> 01:49:45,288
would be soccer and lacrosse,

2469
01:49:45,288 --> 01:49:47,557
but what other sports?

2470
01:49:47,557 --> 01:49:48,826
Uh, flag football. Uh, ultimate

2471
01:49:48,826 --> 01:49:49,359
frisbee. Um, there

2472
01:49:49,359 --> 01:49:51,162
s some other

2473
01:49:51,162 --> 01:49:53,297
sports, uh, and events that are

2474
01:49:53,297 --> 01:49:54,564
our cvb and, uh, uh, sports

2475
01:49:54,564 --> 01:49:55,766
commissioner trying to recruit

2476
01:49:55,766 --> 01:49:56,934
to Greenville. Uh, so really,

2477
01:49:56,934 --> 01:49:58,168
the if he can fit on the

2478
01:49:58,168 --> 01:49:58,402
rectangle field, we can make it

2479
01:49:58,402 --> 01:49:58,969
happen.

2480
01:49:58,969 --> 01:50:00,804
We can do it.

2481
01:50:00,804 --> 01:50:01,939
I remember, uh, Andrew Schmitt

2482
01:50:01,939 --> 01:50:03,607
at one time saying something

2483
01:50:03,607 --> 01:50:04,842
about the Harry Potter.

2484
01:50:04,842 --> 01:50:05,142
Yeah, exactly.

2485
01:50:05,142 --> 01:50:05,509
Guess that

2486
01:50:05,509 --> 01:50:06,176
s real.

2487
01:50:06,176 --> 01:50:07,100
Big, too.

2488
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:07,411
Out there, he said, that

2489
01:50:07,411 --> 01:50:09,279
s like

2490
01:50:09,279 --> 01:50:10,614
a big traveling thing now, too.

2491
01:50:10,614 --> 01:50:11,682
I had no idea.

2492
01:50:11,682 --> 01:50:11,815
Quit it. Quidditch is what it

2493
01:50:11,815 --> 01:50:13,484
s

2494
01:50:13,484 --> 01:50:13,683
called. Twister on.

2495
01:50:13,683 --> 01:50:15,285
What

2496
01:50:15,285 --> 01:50:17,285
s it called?

2497
01:50:18,855 --> 01:50:19,990
Quidditch. Ball. Quad ball. Oh,

2498
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:22,390
there you go. It

2499
01:50:22,459 --> 01:50:24,161
s like.

2500
01:50:24,161 --> 01:50:24,595
So the size of the fields.

2501
01:50:24,595 --> 01:50:26,595
Will be.

2502
01:50:26,830 --> 01:50:27,197
Conducive to football games.

2503
01:50:27,197 --> 01:50:28,198
Yes, ma

2504
01:50:28,198 --> 01:50:28,932
am.

2505
01:50:28,932 --> 01:50:30,932
Yeah.

2506
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:32,970
And rugby and rugby. Also

2507
01:50:32,970 --> 01:50:33,136
another sport. Pretty much any

2508
01:50:33,136 --> 01:50:33,270
man.

2509
01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:33,971
I

2510
01:50:33,971 --> 01:50:35,772
m sorry.

2511
01:50:35,772 --> 01:50:38,772
And the proximity of those

2512
01:50:41,812 --> 01:50:43,714
fields. Are there. So where

2513
01:50:43,714 --> 01:50:45,249
would spectators be?

2514
01:50:45,249 --> 01:50:46,350
So spectators would be, uh, see

2515
01:50:46,350 --> 01:50:46,616
if field one. There

2516
01:50:46,616 --> 01:50:47,818
ll be

2517
01:50:47,818 --> 01:50:49,519
bleachers in between field one,

2518
01:50:49,519 --> 01:50:51,255
field two, and then field two

2519
01:50:51,255 --> 01:50:52,956
and three. Uh, most of these

2520
01:50:52,956 --> 01:50:54,191
tournaments, they will bring,

2521
01:50:54,191 --> 01:50:54,992
uh, spectators will bring their

2522
01:50:54,992 --> 01:50:56,293
chairs, but we will have some

2523
01:50:56,293 --> 01:50:58,895
bleachers out there. Uh, the

2524
01:50:58,895 --> 01:51:00,664
same thing between 3 and 4. And

2525
01:51:00,664 --> 01:51:01,498
then the grass fields will also

2526
01:51:01,498 --> 01:51:01,732
have bleachers.

2527
01:51:01,732 --> 01:51:02,800
If you

2528
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:03,733
re on field 2 or 3 as a

2529
01:51:03,733 --> 01:51:06,733
spectator, you better bring a

2530
01:51:06,736 --> 01:51:08,238
helmet.

2531
01:51:08,238 --> 01:51:08,405
And as we bring in tournaments,

2532
01:51:08,405 --> 01:51:09,607
we

2533
01:51:09,607 --> 01:51:13,207
ll be able to explain and

2534
01:51:14,645 --> 01:51:16,480
add bleachers as as needed.

2535
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:18,480
Good question.

2536
01:51:18,983 --> 01:51:19,717
Any other questions? I want to

2537
01:51:19,717 --> 01:51:21,118
make a motion.

2538
01:51:21,118 --> 01:51:21,585
Motion to approve.

2539
01:51:21,585 --> 01:51:22,353
Second.

2540
01:51:22,353 --> 01:51:23,354
All right. Motion made by

2541
01:51:23,354 --> 01:51:24,221
COUNCILMAN Robinson. Second by

2542
01:51:24,221 --> 01:51:26,621
Council member. Hardy. Any

2543
01:51:26,656 --> 01:51:28,125
other discussion? All those in

2544
01:51:28,125 --> 01:51:28,692
favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?

2545
01:51:28,692 --> 01:51:30,692
Say nay.

2546
01:51:31,562 --> 01:51:33,962
Motion passes five zero.

2547
01:51:33,997 --> 01:51:35,299
Then. Item number 19. Purchase

2548
01:51:35,299 --> 01:51:36,633
of Shore Sports Turf for the

2549
01:51:36,633 --> 01:51:38,669
North Recreational Complex was

2550
01:51:38,669 --> 01:51:39,103
the second part of this agenda.

2551
01:51:39,103 --> 01:51:39,904
Again, I

2552
01:51:39,904 --> 01:51:40,336
ll turn it over to Don

2553
01:51:40,336 --> 01:51:41,705
Ogden.

2554
01:51:41,705 --> 01:51:44,800
All right. So scene here is

2555
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:45,109
the, uh. Again, same outline,

2556
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:46,643
that we, uh, same layout we

2557
01:51:46,643 --> 01:51:48,450
showed before. Uh, the city has

2558
01:51:48,450 --> 01:51:49,646
selected Shaw Sports Turf to

2559
01:51:49,646 --> 01:51:51,810
supply the synthetic turf, uh,

2560
01:51:51,810 --> 01:51:52,116
and infield material. Uh, due

2561
01:51:52,116 --> 01:51:53,550
to their product and

2562
01:51:53,550 --> 01:51:54,584
performance achieved with their

2563
01:51:54,584 --> 01:51:54,718
game on technology. And I

2564
01:51:54,718 --> 01:51:56,419
ll

2565
01:51:56,419 --> 01:51:58,455
talk a little bit about the the

2566
01:51:58,455 --> 01:51:59,957
benefits, um, in this lap, but

2567
01:51:59,957 --> 01:52:01,158
also other slides coming up.

2568
01:52:01,158 --> 01:52:01,959
Uh, a couple of the benefits

2569
01:52:01,959 --> 01:52:02,893
include warranty and

2570
01:52:02,893 --> 01:52:03,828
maintenance. The fields we have

2571
01:52:03,828 --> 01:52:05,429
will have an eight year

2572
01:52:05,429 --> 01:52:07,597
warranty and maintenance, uh,

2573
01:52:07,597 --> 01:52:09,400
reduces seam tape. So the the

2574
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:10,868
turf that we have, we have seen

2575
01:52:10,868 --> 01:52:12,200
tape, um, installed at the

2576
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:13,700
factory. So they went out with

2577
01:52:13,700 --> 01:52:14,271
a saw that when it comes in,

2578
01:52:14,271 --> 01:52:16,239
that means the the seam table

2579
01:52:16,239 --> 01:52:17,274
last longer, uh, which will

2580
01:52:17,274 --> 01:52:18,441
help with long term maintenance

2581
01:52:18,441 --> 01:52:19,909
and requirements. Uh, which

2582
01:52:19,909 --> 01:52:20,978
reduces cost. Uh, game on

2583
01:52:20,978 --> 01:52:22,312
minimum turf is cradle to

2584
01:52:22,312 --> 01:52:22,480
cradle certified, which, uh,

2585
01:52:22,480 --> 01:52:23,213
we

2586
01:52:23,213 --> 01:52:24,514
ll talk about in the next

2587
01:52:24,514 --> 01:52:25,982
slide. And then another

2588
01:52:25,982 --> 01:52:27,384
important component is the turf

2589
01:52:27,384 --> 01:52:28,952
includes Geo field topper

2590
01:52:28,952 --> 01:52:29,920
infield product, uh, which will

2591
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:30,820
significantly reduce the

2592
01:52:30,820 --> 01:52:32,156
temperature of plant service.

2593
01:52:32,156 --> 01:52:32,655
So a lot of synthetic fields,

2594
01:52:32,655 --> 01:52:33,691
uh, that don

2595
01:52:33,691 --> 01:52:35,580
t include this,

2596
01:52:35,580 --> 01:52:37,270
uh, could be hotter because of

2597
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:38,795
the sun. Uh, this infield that

2598
01:52:38,795 --> 01:52:40,163
is included in this purchase,

2599
01:52:40,163 --> 01:52:40,998
uh, will help reduce the

2600
01:52:40,998 --> 01:52:41,899
temperature. And that way, it

2601
01:52:41,899 --> 01:52:43,466
will be the same as a normal

2602
01:52:43,466 --> 01:52:45,100
grass field. Uh, so no change

2603
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:46,836
there, which ensures we have a

2604
01:52:46,836 --> 01:52:49,600
safe playing surface. Uh, so,

2605
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,208
overview of synthetic turf

2606
01:52:51,208 --> 01:52:51,976
benefits. Um, several items are

2607
01:52:51,976 --> 01:52:52,376
here. Uh, it

2608
01:52:52,376 --> 01:52:53,777
s cheaper to

2609
01:52:53,777 --> 01:52:55,879
maintain annually compared to

2610
01:52:55,879 --> 01:52:57,981
grass fields. Uh, stable

2611
01:52:57,981 --> 01:52:59,416
playing surface for athletes.

2612
01:52:59,416 --> 01:53:00,417
Uh, play can resume quicker in

2613
01:53:00,417 --> 01:53:02,586
the event of inclement weather.

2614
01:53:02,586 --> 01:53:04,121
So in a downpour, uh, it takes

2615
01:53:04,121 --> 01:53:05,922
less time for these, uh, for a

2616
01:53:05,922 --> 01:53:07,390
turf synthetic turf field to

2617
01:53:07,390 --> 01:53:08,459
drain, uh, which means we have

2618
01:53:08,459 --> 01:53:09,260
unlimited playing hours, which

2619
01:53:09,260 --> 01:53:09,326
is very important. We

2620
01:53:09,326 --> 01:53:10,260
re trying

2621
01:53:10,260 --> 01:53:11,729
to recruit the type of

2622
01:53:11,729 --> 01:53:13,463
tournaments that we offer North

2623
01:53:13,463 --> 01:53:14,665
Rec, but also the minimal

2624
01:53:14,665 --> 01:53:15,866
preparation, uh, which helps

2625
01:53:15,866 --> 01:53:17,401
tournament play and also

2626
01:53:17,401 --> 01:53:18,601
decreases staffing needs. So

2627
01:53:18,601 --> 01:53:18,968
play can continue quicker. But

2628
01:53:18,968 --> 01:53:19,402
also, we don

2629
01:53:19,402 --> 01:53:20,570
t have to have

2630
01:53:20,570 --> 01:53:22,372
staff out there to prepare the

2631
01:53:22,372 --> 01:53:25,341
field. The games can keep going

2632
01:53:25,341 --> 01:53:28,378
on. Also want to talk about the

2633
01:53:28,378 --> 01:53:29,346
Cradle cradle certified? Uh, so

2634
01:53:29,346 --> 01:53:30,414
trusted third party

2635
01:53:30,414 --> 01:53:31,515
verification that ensures

2636
01:53:31,515 --> 01:53:33,500
products are safe for both

2637
01:53:33,500 --> 01:53:34,751
people and the planet. Uh, a

2638
01:53:34,751 --> 01:53:36,219
couple of those areas. Uh, the

2639
01:53:36,219 --> 01:53:37,287
certification covers, uh,

2640
01:53:37,287 --> 01:53:38,855
including material health,

2641
01:53:38,855 --> 01:53:40,491
ensuring the materials are safe

2642
01:53:40,491 --> 01:53:42,359
for humans and the environment,

2643
01:53:42,359 --> 01:53:43,594
and also clean air and climate

2644
01:53:43,594 --> 01:53:45,161
protection, generating clean

2645
01:53:45,161 --> 01:53:46,931
energy and protecting the

2646
01:53:46,931 --> 01:53:48,432
environment. Um, not every

2647
01:53:48,432 --> 01:53:49,567
company offers this type of

2648
01:53:49,567 --> 01:53:49,699
certification, and we feel it

2649
01:53:49,699 --> 01:53:51,268
s

2650
01:53:51,268 --> 01:53:52,903
very important, uh, for this

2651
01:53:52,903 --> 01:53:54,380
project. And so our

2652
01:53:54,380 --> 01:53:55,305
recommendation is to approve

2653
01:53:55,305 --> 01:53:56,907
the purchase of gaming minimum

2654
01:53:56,907 --> 01:53:58,442
2.25 synthetic turf and geo

2655
01:53:58,442 --> 01:53:59,776
fuel infield from Shell Sports

2656
01:53:59,776 --> 01:54:01,278
Turf and authorize the city

2657
01:54:01,278 --> 01:54:03,113
manager and or mayor to execute

2658
01:54:03,113 --> 01:54:03,246
any required documents. And

2659
01:54:03,246 --> 01:54:04,180
I

2660
01:54:04,180 --> 01:54:05,281
ll be glad to answer any.

2661
01:54:05,281 --> 01:54:07,117
Questions.

2662
01:54:07,117 --> 01:54:08,585
Any questions?

2663
01:54:08,585 --> 01:54:09,686
My question goes back to the

2664
01:54:09,686 --> 01:54:10,200
previous vote.

2665
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:10,687
Yes, ma

2666
01:54:10,687 --> 01:54:11,455
am.

2667
01:54:11,455 --> 01:54:12,856
So we

2668
01:54:12,856 --> 01:54:14,558
ve talked about the

2669
01:54:14,558 --> 01:54:16,226
possibility of putting tracks

2670
01:54:16,226 --> 01:54:16,493
around the rectangular fields,

2671
01:54:16,493 --> 01:54:17,260
but they

2672
01:54:17,260 --> 01:54:18,161
re in such close

2673
01:54:18,161 --> 01:54:18,595
proximity, I don

2674
01:54:18,595 --> 01:54:20,430
t see where

2675
01:54:20,430 --> 01:54:24,300
that would ever be an option.

2676
01:54:24,501 --> 01:54:24,801
So for nrc, um, they felt agree

2677
01:54:24,801 --> 01:54:25,602
with me. I

2678
01:54:25,602 --> 01:54:26,269
ll go back to one of

2679
01:54:26,269 --> 01:54:27,271
the other maps. That

2680
01:54:27,271 --> 01:54:28,672
s okay.

2681
01:54:28,672 --> 01:54:31,410
Um, for nrc, we would have to

2682
01:54:31,410 --> 01:54:31,875
look at the entire complex to,

2683
01:54:31,875 --> 01:54:33,777
to, to kind of take us. If you

2684
01:54:33,777 --> 01:54:35,578
look at the north west portion

2685
01:54:35,578 --> 01:54:36,413
of that complex, there is

2686
01:54:36,413 --> 01:54:37,847
opportunity for other

2687
01:54:37,847 --> 01:54:39,649
development there. Uh, for

2688
01:54:39,649 --> 01:54:40,684
either more rectangle fields.

2689
01:54:40,684 --> 01:54:41,918
Uh, but also it could be a

2690
01:54:41,918 --> 01:54:43,119
potential to have a track right

2691
01:54:43,119 --> 01:54:45,255
there potentially, or some type

2692
01:54:45,255 --> 01:54:46,556
of, of, uh, running amenity.

2693
01:54:46,556 --> 01:54:47,825
Um, so we have to look at the

2694
01:54:47,825 --> 01:54:49,580
whole entire complex. Not not

2695
01:54:49,580 --> 01:54:49,259
really the, the certain, but

2696
01:54:49,259 --> 01:54:50,327
that

2697
01:54:50,327 --> 01:54:52,495
s we can certainly, uh,

2698
01:54:52,495 --> 01:54:54,297
take a look at that. Yes, ma

2699
01:54:54,297 --> 01:54:54,664
am.

2700
01:54:54,664 --> 01:54:54,998
Let

2701
01:54:54,998 --> 01:54:56,998
s do a.

2702
01:54:57,501 --> 01:54:59,501
Question.

2703
01:55:00,370 --> 01:55:02,172
Of course. My questions are

2704
01:55:02,172 --> 01:55:03,306
related to diversifying the.

2705
01:55:03,306 --> 01:55:03,973
Possibilities. Yes, ma

2706
01:55:03,973 --> 01:55:04,140
am. Yes,

2707
01:55:04,140 --> 01:55:04,707
ma

2708
01:55:04,707 --> 01:55:06,707
am.

2709
01:55:09,746 --> 01:55:10,814
All right. Any other questions?

2710
01:55:10,814 --> 01:55:12,949
Anybody to entertain a motion.

2711
01:55:12,949 --> 01:55:13,716
Motion to approve.

2712
01:55:13,716 --> 01:55:14,318
Second.

2713
01:55:14,318 --> 01:55:14,451
All right. All right. We

2714
01:55:14,451 --> 01:55:16,451
re

2715
01:55:16,486 --> 01:55:17,287
mixing it up. I like that. Must

2716
01:55:17,287 --> 01:55:17,988
have been made by Councilor

2717
01:55:17,988 --> 01:55:19,220
Robinson, second by

2718
01:55:19,220 --> 01:55:19,856
Councilmember Willis. All those

2719
01:55:19,856 --> 01:55:20,257
in favor say aye.

2720
01:55:20,257 --> 01:55:20,590
Aye.

2721
01:55:20,590 --> 01:55:22,590
Opposed?

2722
01:55:23,590 --> 01:55:23,793
Say nay. Motion passes five

2723
01:55:23,793 --> 01:55:25,529
zero.

2724
01:55:25,529 --> 01:55:26,396
All right. Number 20.

2725
01:55:26,396 --> 01:55:28,198
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

2726
01:55:28,198 --> 01:55:29,566
20, first amendment to enter

2727
01:55:29,566 --> 01:55:31,340
local agreement with Pitt

2728
01:55:31,340 --> 01:55:33,737
County for sale of property

2729
01:55:33,737 --> 01:55:36,137
located at 2815 East 10th

2730
01:55:37,574 --> 01:55:39,430
Street. Parcel number 29072.

2731
01:55:39,430 --> 01:55:41,811
And zero East fifth Street.

2732
01:55:41,811 --> 01:55:42,245
Parcel number 283 ten. I

2733
01:55:42,245 --> 01:55:43,579
ll now

2734
01:55:43,579 --> 01:55:45,181
call for the Assistant City

2735
01:55:45,181 --> 01:55:46,116
attorney, Scott Dixon, for the

2736
01:55:46,116 --> 01:55:47,150
presentation.

2737
01:55:47,150 --> 01:55:49,860
MR. Mayor, members of the

2738
01:55:49,860 --> 01:55:50,190
council. Um, this should be

2739
01:55:50,190 --> 01:55:50,454
about your shortest item

2740
01:55:50,454 --> 01:55:51,421
tonight, but it

2741
01:55:51,421 --> 01:55:52,656
s important and

2742
01:55:52,656 --> 01:55:53,557
related to the item that comes

2743
01:55:53,557 --> 01:55:54,324
right after this. The Don will

2744
01:55:54,324 --> 01:55:56,359
be presenting about the

2745
01:55:56,359 --> 01:55:57,760
proposed exchange. So tonight

2746
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:58,762
before you, you guys previously

2747
01:55:58,762 --> 01:55:59,996
entered into an intellectual

2748
01:55:59,996 --> 01:56:02,265
agreement with Pitt County in

2749
01:56:02,265 --> 01:56:03,733
SEPTEMBER 20th, 2024, for the

2750
01:56:03,733 --> 01:56:05,502
sale of property located at

2751
01:56:05,502 --> 01:56:06,704
2815 East 10th Street and zero

2752
01:56:06,704 --> 01:56:07,704
East fifth Street. The

2753
01:56:07,704 --> 01:56:08,972
substantive components of the

2754
01:56:08,972 --> 01:56:10,106
previous agreement, provided

2755
01:56:10,106 --> 01:56:11,740
the city would facilitate the

2756
01:56:11,740 --> 01:56:12,108
sale of the property,

2757
01:56:12,108 --> 01:56:13,760
administer administration

2758
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:14,770
services, and, upon

2759
01:56:14,770 --> 01:56:15,378
finalization of the sale of

2760
01:56:15,378 --> 01:56:16,579
property, provide accounting

2761
01:56:16,579 --> 01:56:17,781
and disburse the proceeds as

2762
01:56:17,781 --> 01:56:20,500
determined by the ownership

2763
01:56:20,500 --> 01:56:21,118
interest. Parties now desire to

2764
01:56:21,118 --> 01:56:22,185
amend that previously under

2765
01:56:22,185 --> 01:56:23,387
interlocal agreement, so that

2766
01:56:23,387 --> 01:56:25,221
in lieu of a sale to a third

2767
01:56:25,221 --> 01:56:26,390
party only, the city MAY also

2768
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:28,491
exchange the property together

2769
01:56:28,491 --> 01:56:29,459
with monetary compensation.

2770
01:56:29,459 --> 01:56:30,727
Upon completion of any

2771
01:56:30,727 --> 01:56:31,928
exchange, the county shall be

2772
01:56:31,928 --> 01:56:32,996
either reimbursed in an amount

2773
01:56:32,996 --> 01:56:34,364
proportional to its percentage

2774
01:56:34,364 --> 01:56:35,332
interest in the property or the

2775
01:56:35,332 --> 01:56:36,366
county. Interest shall be

2776
01:56:36,366 --> 01:56:37,367
treated as a contribution

2777
01:56:37,367 --> 01:56:38,969
towards the development of a

2778
01:56:38,969 --> 01:56:39,870
planned sports complex. City

2779
01:56:39,870 --> 01:56:41,671
will continue to provide

2780
01:56:41,671 --> 01:56:43,671
administration and oversight.

2781
01:56:43,674 --> 01:56:44,741
Um. It should appear a mere

2782
01:56:44,741 --> 01:56:46,420
agreement should appear on the

2783
01:56:46,420 --> 01:56:47,760
commissioners meeting. And from

2784
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:48,780
conversations with Matt and

2785
01:56:48,780 --> 01:56:48,345
Janice, all of them seem to

2786
01:56:48,345 --> 01:56:48,879
think it

2787
01:56:48,879 --> 01:56:50,480
s going to be a

2788
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:51,614
donation. So we should get that

2789
01:56:51,614 --> 01:56:53,449
answer later. We can update you

2790
01:56:53,449 --> 01:56:53,816
guys, but all indications have

2791
01:56:53,816 --> 01:56:54,518
been they

2792
01:56:54,518 --> 01:56:55,953
re going to donate it

2793
01:56:55,953 --> 01:56:56,687
for the possibility of a sports

2794
01:56:56,687 --> 01:56:57,220
complex. They

2795
01:56:57,220 --> 01:56:57,521
ve both been

2796
01:56:57,521 --> 01:56:58,287
great. Don

2797
01:56:58,287 --> 01:57:00,523
s been working a lot

2798
01:57:00,523 --> 01:57:01,724
on this. So basically in order

2799
01:57:01,724 --> 01:57:03,526
for you guys to enter into the

2800
01:57:03,526 --> 01:57:05,329
proposed exchange or provide

2801
01:57:05,329 --> 01:57:06,463
authorization, we gotta amend

2802
01:57:06,463 --> 01:57:08,565
this to just allow that

2803
01:57:08,565 --> 01:57:10,400
opportunity. So in 2024, you

2804
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:11,468
guys, when you, um, entered

2805
01:57:11,468 --> 01:57:12,702
into the initial agreement, it

2806
01:57:12,702 --> 01:57:13,736
was going to be sale to a

2807
01:57:13,736 --> 01:57:15,720
private party through an upset

2808
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:15,305
bid process. That deal didn

2809
01:57:15,305 --> 01:57:15,872
t

2810
01:57:15,872 --> 01:57:16,139
really work out. I don

2811
01:57:16,139 --> 01:57:17,373
t think

2812
01:57:17,373 --> 01:57:18,541
the parties found interest in

2813
01:57:18,541 --> 01:57:20,811
how that was going to be worked

2814
01:57:20,811 --> 01:57:22,412
out. So this just changes one

2815
01:57:22,412 --> 01:57:24,581
thing, essentially allowing us

2816
01:57:24,581 --> 01:57:25,916
to do an exchange. And it also

2817
01:57:25,916 --> 01:57:26,716
allows us for the county to

2818
01:57:26,716 --> 01:57:27,450
treat their interest as a

2819
01:57:27,450 --> 01:57:27,751
contribution. So I

2820
01:57:27,751 --> 01:57:28,518
m happy to

2821
01:57:28,518 --> 01:57:30,200
answer any questions.

2822
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:33,200
All right. Any questions for

2823
01:57:34,724 --> 01:57:34,892
MISTER Dixon? You weren

2824
01:57:34,892 --> 01:57:35,926
t

2825
01:57:35,926 --> 01:57:36,526
lying. This could be the

2826
01:57:36,526 --> 01:57:37,828
shortest one.

2827
01:57:37,828 --> 01:57:39,829
I tried my best. I know you all

2828
01:57:39,829 --> 01:57:40,964
had a long one.

2829
01:57:40,964 --> 01:57:41,331
All right. Anybody want to

2830
01:57:41,331 --> 01:57:43,331
entertain a.

2831
01:57:44,401 --> 01:57:45,502
Motion? Motion? Second.

2832
01:57:45,502 --> 01:57:46,502
All right. Motion made by

2833
01:57:46,502 --> 01:57:47,838
Councilmember Robinson. Second

2834
01:57:47,838 --> 01:57:48,905
by Councilmember Willis. All

2835
01:57:48,905 --> 01:57:49,272
those in favor say aye.

2836
01:57:49,272 --> 01:57:49,739
Aye.

2837
01:57:49,739 --> 01:57:51,739
Opposed?

2838
01:57:52,420 --> 01:57:52,208
Any motion passes five zero.

2839
01:57:52,208 --> 01:57:54,208
Let

2840
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:55,979
s move on to item number

2841
01:57:55,979 --> 01:57:57,979
21.

2842
01:57:57,981 --> 01:57:59,820
So item number 21, resolution

2843
01:57:59,820 --> 01:58:01,117
approving the exchange of

2844
01:58:01,117 --> 01:58:02,585
property with j. B holding,

2845
01:58:02,585 --> 01:58:04,354
llc. Call for Executive

2846
01:58:04,354 --> 01:58:05,388
Director Don Octagon for the

2847
01:58:05,388 --> 01:58:06,489
presentation.

2848
01:58:06,489 --> 01:58:07,391
All right. Good evening again.

2849
01:58:07,391 --> 01:58:09,391
Good evening.

2850
01:58:10,260 --> 01:58:10,560
All right. So, um, to Scott

2851
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:11,928
s

2852
01:58:11,928 --> 01:58:12,762
point, uh, this is part of his

2853
01:58:12,762 --> 01:58:13,163
item two. As far.

2854
01:58:13,163 --> 01:58:13,763
As the there

2855
01:58:13,763 --> 01:58:14,464
s going to be. Are

2856
01:58:14,464 --> 01:58:16,633
you gonna try to beat him.

2857
01:58:16,633 --> 01:58:18,701
For sure. He wins here. Come

2858
01:58:18,701 --> 01:58:21,101
on, try do it.

2859
01:58:21,138 --> 01:58:21,771
Um, however, I

2860
01:58:21,771 --> 01:58:23,573
ll try to get

2861
01:58:23,573 --> 01:58:24,908
this as efficiently as I can.

2862
01:58:24,908 --> 01:58:25,942
Um, so this is over. Overview

2863
01:58:25,942 --> 01:58:28,342
of the proposed property

2864
01:58:29,212 --> 01:58:31,281
exchange. Uh, property to be is

2865
01:58:31,281 --> 01:58:33,517
4055 us 64 Highway East, which

2866
01:58:33,517 --> 01:58:36,190
is adjacent to ecu North

2867
01:58:36,190 --> 01:58:37,554
complex. Uh, in exchange for

2868
01:58:37,554 --> 01:58:39,255
two a one five 10th Street, the

2869
01:58:39,255 --> 01:58:41,758
old highway patrol building and

2870
01:58:41,758 --> 01:58:42,580
cash. So over the next couple

2871
01:58:42,580 --> 01:58:42,893
slides, I

2872
01:58:42,893 --> 01:58:44,928
ll go in detail about

2873
01:58:44,928 --> 01:58:46,329
the properties, um, and the and

2874
01:58:46,329 --> 01:58:46,496
the exchange. Uh, first of all,

2875
01:58:46,496 --> 01:58:47,297
we

2876
01:58:47,297 --> 01:58:48,231
ll cover the old State

2877
01:58:48,231 --> 01:58:49,566
Highway Patrol building, which

2878
01:58:49,566 --> 01:58:50,567
again is located on 10th Street

2879
01:58:50,567 --> 01:58:51,500
there at the corner of fifth

2880
01:58:51,500 --> 01:58:51,868
Street and 10th Street. It

2881
01:58:51,868 --> 01:58:53,868
s

2882
01:58:56,539 --> 01:58:58,842
approximately two acres. Uh, in

2883
01:58:58,842 --> 01:59:01,242
SEPTEMBER of 2025, the city

2884
01:59:01,478 --> 01:59:02,512
received a, uh, appraisal, uh,

2885
01:59:02,512 --> 01:59:03,713
stating the market value,

2886
01:59:03,713 --> 01:59:05,782
current market value for this

2887
01:59:05,782 --> 01:59:07,500
property was 909,000, which is

2888
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:08,418
the value that we used as part

2889
01:59:08,418 --> 01:59:10,818
of this presentation. In

2890
01:59:11,655 --> 01:59:13,589
exchange, other property, uh,

2891
01:59:13,589 --> 01:59:14,958
as the adjacent to is is

2892
01:59:14,958 --> 01:59:17,358
adjacent to Rec North

2893
01:59:17,827 --> 01:59:20,227
Recreational Complex. So parcel

2894
01:59:20,797 --> 01:59:22,797
23342, uh, approximately 160

2895
01:59:22,999 --> 01:59:25,201
acres available for economic

2896
01:59:25,201 --> 01:59:27,370
development. Uh, in JANUARY,

2897
01:59:27,370 --> 01:59:29,873
when the sports complex uh Task

2898
01:59:29,873 --> 01:59:31,274
force first um recommended this

2899
01:59:31,274 --> 01:59:32,576
property, the asking price was

2900
01:59:32,576 --> 01:59:33,610
about 5.5 million, which

2901
01:59:33,610 --> 01:59:35,278
oversees our exceeded our

2902
01:59:35,278 --> 01:59:36,479
budget at the time. Uh, since

2903
01:59:36,479 --> 01:59:38,214
then, the current asset price

2904
01:59:38,214 --> 01:59:39,683
has come down to 3.2 million

2905
01:59:39,683 --> 01:59:41,919
for this property. A little bit

2906
01:59:41,919 --> 01:59:44,919
more about this property. Um,

2907
01:59:45,522 --> 01:59:48,491
and excuse me, an appraisal

2908
01:59:48,491 --> 01:59:49,626
received, uh, in MARCH of 2026

2909
01:59:49,626 --> 01:59:51,294
that stated the current market

2910
01:59:51,294 --> 01:59:53,730
value for the property was

2911
01:59:53,730 --> 01:59:55,730
3,318,000, which is about

2912
01:59:57,868 --> 01:59:58,868
21,000 per acre. Um, important

2913
01:59:58,868 --> 02:00:00,269
to note that a potentially

2914
02:00:00,269 --> 02:00:01,771
acquiring acquiring this

2915
02:00:01,771 --> 02:00:02,839
parcel, uh, would give the city

2916
02:00:02,839 --> 02:00:04,107
ownership of all the property

2917
02:00:04,107 --> 02:00:05,241
outlined in red. So of course,

2918
02:00:05,241 --> 02:00:06,810
we take over management of

2919
02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:09,210
Acres North Recreation Complex,

2920
02:00:10,847 --> 02:00:11,581
which is, uh, parcel 58471. And

2921
02:00:11,581 --> 02:00:11,948
then, of course, we have this

2922
02:00:11,948 --> 02:00:12,982
parcel we

2923
02:00:12,982 --> 02:00:14,450
re talking about now.

2924
02:00:14,450 --> 02:00:16,586
And then in JANUARY, uh, the

2925
02:00:16,586 --> 02:00:19,189
city acquired parcels two, two,

2926
02:00:19,189 --> 02:00:20,290
five, zero five and 2123 south

2927
02:00:20,290 --> 02:00:21,240
of 264. That

2928
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:22,225
s, uh, also

2929
02:00:22,225 --> 02:00:24,427
outlined in red. And also the

2930
02:00:24,427 --> 02:00:25,629
city already owns and operates

2931
02:00:25,629 --> 02:00:27,997
uh, Bradford Creek Soccer

2932
02:00:27,997 --> 02:00:30,997
Complex, which is uh, parcel

2933
02:00:31,134 --> 02:00:32,680
59120. So this would have in

2934
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:32,869
control of all these properties

2935
02:00:32,869 --> 02:00:34,404
or ownership. All these

2936
02:00:34,404 --> 02:00:35,672
properties would, um, give the

2937
02:00:35,672 --> 02:00:36,639
city significant control of

2938
02:00:36,639 --> 02:00:38,408
what is development around the

2939
02:00:38,408 --> 02:00:39,175
sports complex, uh, sports,

2940
02:00:39,175 --> 02:00:41,175
commercial, retail,

2941
02:00:42,412 --> 02:00:44,130
hospitality, uh, and housing,

2942
02:00:44,130 --> 02:00:46,416
uh, supporting the note that we

2943
02:00:46,416 --> 02:00:47,917
started due diligence process,

2944
02:00:47,917 --> 02:00:50,319
uh, on this property. Uh, the

2945
02:00:50,319 --> 02:00:52,489
due diligence ends AUGUST 31st,

2946
02:00:52,489 --> 02:00:53,856
2026. Uh, so far, the report

2947
02:00:53,856 --> 02:00:55,580
returned, uh, no issues with

2948
02:00:55,580 --> 02:00:55,358
the property. Uh, and it

2949
02:00:55,358 --> 02:00:56,927
s

2950
02:00:56,927 --> 02:00:58,227
suitable for constructing

2951
02:00:58,227 --> 02:01:00,627
constructing a future sports

2952
02:01:01,465 --> 02:01:03,466
complex. So this is a little

2953
02:01:03,466 --> 02:01:04,435
outline or overview of the

2954
02:01:04,435 --> 02:01:05,768
property exchange in more

2955
02:01:05,768 --> 02:01:07,737
detail. So the first step would

2956
02:01:07,737 --> 02:01:10,400
be a private party purchase.

2957
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:12,309
The property located adjacent

2958
02:01:12,309 --> 02:01:13,777
to Northgate. Uh jv Holdings

2959
02:01:13,777 --> 02:01:15,345
llc has offered to purchase the

2960
02:01:15,345 --> 02:01:16,479
property. Uh, second step would

2961
02:01:16,479 --> 02:01:18,515
be the city entered into an

2962
02:01:18,515 --> 02:01:20,316
agreement to exchange, uh, the

2963
02:01:20,316 --> 02:01:22,180
10th Street property, plus cash

2964
02:01:22,180 --> 02:01:23,953
for the property, uh, now owned

2965
02:01:23,953 --> 02:01:24,921
by ghb Holdings, uh, which will

2966
02:01:24,921 --> 02:01:26,322
be, of course, the property

2967
02:01:26,322 --> 02:01:27,857
adjacent to East North

2968
02:01:27,857 --> 02:01:30,160
Recreation Complex. And third

2969
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:31,594
step will be ghb Holdings. Uh,

2970
02:01:31,594 --> 02:01:33,994
receives old state highway

2971
02:01:36,799 --> 02:01:38,167
patrol property and $2,341,000

2972
02:01:38,167 --> 02:01:39,970
cash from the city. Then the

2973
02:01:39,970 --> 02:01:40,770
city within acquire property

2974
02:01:40,770 --> 02:01:41,710
adjacent to the North.

2975
02:01:41,710 --> 02:01:41,571
Rock.

2976
02:01:41,571 --> 02:01:42,839
Location.

2977
02:01:42,839 --> 02:01:44,307
264 East.

2978
02:01:44,307 --> 02:01:46,800
Uh. Summary of total cash

2979
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:47,910
payout. Uh, the city acquires

2980
02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:48,945
the parcel. Uh, so there is no

2981
02:01:48,945 --> 02:01:50,347
exchange? Uh, it

2982
02:01:50,347 --> 02:01:51,647
ll be $3.2

2983
02:01:51,647 --> 02:01:53,616
million. This is the selling

2984
02:01:53,616 --> 02:01:55,218
price. Um, if the exchange for

2985
02:01:55,218 --> 02:01:57,353
East 10th Street property plus

2986
02:01:57,353 --> 02:02:00,953
cash is approved, uh, the value

2987
02:02:03,930 --> 02:02:05,362
will be 2,395,538. Uh, cash

2988
02:02:05,362 --> 02:02:07,363
savings of five 854,000 for the

2989
02:02:07,363 --> 02:02:09,198
city. Uh, funding details. Uh,

2990
02:02:09,198 --> 02:02:12,200
total cash payout will be

2991
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:13,603
2,395,000. Uh, funding source

2992
02:02:13,603 --> 02:02:13,803
is hotel tax capital fund. And

2993
02:02:13,803 --> 02:02:15,305
there

2994
02:02:15,305 --> 02:02:16,773
s no sufficient capacity

2995
02:02:16,773 --> 02:02:18,241
in the fund to acquire property

2996
02:02:18,241 --> 02:02:20,641
through combination of private

2997
02:02:21,745 --> 02:02:23,613
exchange, cash and financing.

2998
02:02:23,613 --> 02:02:24,614
And recommendation city Council

2999
02:02:24,614 --> 02:02:25,815
adopt the resolution

3000
02:02:25,815 --> 02:02:27,950
authorizing the exchange of

3001
02:02:27,950 --> 02:02:29,352
property with ghb Holdings, llc

3002
02:02:29,352 --> 02:02:30,853
and the city Manager Mayor to

3003
02:02:30,853 --> 02:02:32,555
execute any documentation

3004
02:02:32,555 --> 02:02:33,790
needed to effectuate the

3005
02:02:33,790 --> 02:02:34,157
transaction. And I

3006
02:02:34,157 --> 02:02:34,590
ll be glad

3007
02:02:34,590 --> 02:02:36,159
to answer any.

3008
02:02:36,159 --> 02:02:38,159
Questions.

3009
02:02:43,990 --> 02:02:44,333
Any questions. Anybody wanna

3010
02:02:44,333 --> 02:02:45,101
make a motion?

3011
02:02:45,101 --> 02:02:45,735
So.

3012
02:02:45,735 --> 02:02:46,602
Second.

3013
02:02:46,602 --> 02:02:47,437
All right. Motion made by

3014
02:02:47,437 --> 02:02:48,738
Councilmember Hardy, saved by

3015
02:02:48,738 --> 02:02:51,138
COUNCILMAN Robinson. Any other

3016
02:02:52,476 --> 02:02:53,900
discussion? All those in favor

3017
02:02:53,900 --> 02:02:53,409
say aye.

3018
02:02:53,409 --> 02:02:54,477
Aye, aye.

3019
02:02:54,477 --> 02:02:56,646
Those opposed say nay.

3020
02:02:56,646 --> 02:02:57,180
Motion passes five zero.

3021
02:02:57,180 --> 02:02:58,114
All right. We

3022
02:02:58,114 --> 02:02:59,315
ll move on to

3023
02:02:59,315 --> 02:03:01,217
item number 22.

3024
02:03:01,217 --> 02:03:02,850
Item number 22. Contract award

3025
02:03:02,850 --> 02:03:03,152
for the update and

3026
02:03:03,152 --> 02:03:05,121
implementation of the

3027
02:03:05,121 --> 02:03:06,355
comprehensive plan. I call for

3028
02:03:06,355 --> 02:03:08,755
Assistant Director Shanti Guppy

3029
02:03:10,660 --> 02:03:11,561
for the presentation.

3030
02:03:11,561 --> 02:03:13,863
Are you going to compete for

3031
02:03:13,863 --> 02:03:13,997
the shortest presentation?

3032
02:03:13,997 --> 02:03:15,997
I

3033
02:03:16,566 --> 02:03:18,969
m going to try. So this is

3034
02:03:18,969 --> 02:03:20,770
fairly straightforward. Um,

3035
02:03:20,770 --> 02:03:22,538
this is to update and implement

3036
02:03:22,538 --> 02:03:24,641
a comprehensive plan. Last

3037
02:03:24,641 --> 02:03:26,676
year, the city issued a request

3038
02:03:26,676 --> 02:03:29,612
for proposals or an rfp for

3039
02:03:29,612 --> 02:03:31,247
this project. Uh, Bolton Mink

3040
02:03:31,247 --> 02:03:32,849
was selected out of ten firms.

3041
02:03:32,849 --> 02:03:36,619
We do have a member of their

3042
02:03:36,619 --> 02:03:37,820
staff here tonight. In 2016,

3043
02:03:37,820 --> 02:03:38,421
the city adopted Horizon

3044
02:03:38,421 --> 02:03:40,421
s

3045
02:03:40,690 --> 02:03:42,492
2026. You hear me say all that?

3046
02:03:42,492 --> 02:03:44,126
As the name implies, there was

3047
02:03:44,126 --> 02:03:45,728
a ten year gap, which means we

3048
02:03:45,728 --> 02:03:48,264
are at that point where we need

3049
02:03:48,264 --> 02:03:49,832
to update. Um, maybe almost

3050
02:03:49,832 --> 02:03:52,101
completely rewrite and adopt a

3051
02:03:52,101 --> 02:03:54,237
new comp plan. So the main

3052
02:03:54,237 --> 02:03:56,600
goals and objectives for this

3053
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:57,607
project obviously is to do

3054
02:03:57,607 --> 02:03:59,607
goals, objectives,

3055
02:03:59,909 --> 02:04:01,909
implementation strategies. This

3056
02:04:01,945 --> 02:04:04,470
is based on technical review as

3057
02:04:04,470 --> 02:04:05,781
well as public input. Um, some

3058
02:04:05,781 --> 02:04:08,685
of the main items would be

3059
02:04:08,685 --> 02:04:11,850
housing, land use, economic

3060
02:04:11,288 --> 02:04:13,656
development, mobility and city

3061
02:04:13,656 --> 02:04:15,580
facilities. It would also have

3062
02:04:15,580 --> 02:04:17,760
alignment with the goals and

3063
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,563
objectives in our Udo alignment

3064
02:04:20,563 --> 02:04:22,165
with um, North Carolina General

3065
02:04:22,165 --> 02:04:24,367
Statutes, as well as well as

3066
02:04:24,367 --> 02:04:27,370
other applicable laws and then

3067
02:04:27,370 --> 02:04:29,437
robust and intentional public

3068
02:04:29,539 --> 02:04:31,939
participation. Uh, there would

3069
02:04:32,750 --> 02:04:33,677
be a task force that would be

3070
02:04:33,677 --> 02:04:36,770
established. This board would

3071
02:04:37,814 --> 02:04:39,983
have a device, of a group of

3072
02:04:39,983 --> 02:04:41,983
citizens, stakeholders and

3073
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:43,787
representatives from the boards

3074
02:04:43,787 --> 02:04:45,154
and commissions of the city, as

3075
02:04:45,154 --> 02:04:46,589
well as city council members

3076
02:04:46,589 --> 02:04:47,924
and any others that MAY be

3077
02:04:47,924 --> 02:04:49,726
needed. There will be a

3078
02:04:49,726 --> 02:04:51,861
significant amount of public

3079
02:04:51,861 --> 02:04:53,861
engagement with multiple

3080
02:04:54,464 --> 02:04:56,265
in-person virtual meetings and

3081
02:04:56,265 --> 02:04:57,267
task force meetings, and then

3082
02:04:57,267 --> 02:04:59,169
there will be a centralized

3083
02:04:59,169 --> 02:05:00,903
project website, much like we

3084
02:05:00,903 --> 02:05:01,170
have with the Udo, which is if

3085
02:05:01,170 --> 02:05:02,105
you don

3086
02:05:02,105 --> 02:05:03,406
t go to any of the

3087
02:05:03,406 --> 02:05:04,907
meetings, you can still go

3088
02:05:04,907 --> 02:05:05,308
online to find out what

3089
02:05:05,308 --> 02:05:07,308
s going

3090
02:05:08,512 --> 02:05:10,613
on and also give input. There

3091
02:05:10,613 --> 02:05:13,382
will be three open houses with

3092
02:05:13,382 --> 02:05:14,984
three themes, and each of those

3093
02:05:14,984 --> 02:05:16,385
open houses will be held at

3094
02:05:16,385 --> 02:05:17,987
four different locations in the

3095
02:05:17,987 --> 02:05:19,987
city. So essentially 12

3096
02:05:20,122 --> 02:05:21,391
different open houses. Um, the

3097
02:05:21,391 --> 02:05:23,693
first cluster will be

3098
02:05:23,693 --> 02:05:25,428
Greenville today. The second

3099
02:05:25,428 --> 02:05:27,630
will be where do we want to go?

3100
02:05:27,630 --> 02:05:28,531
And the last one will be how

3101
02:05:28,531 --> 02:05:28,697
will we get there? Um, they

3102
02:05:28,697 --> 02:05:30,697
ll

3103
02:05:30,867 --> 02:05:32,802
also be a virtual open house

3104
02:05:32,802 --> 02:05:32,935
For each of these, and there

3105
02:05:32,935 --> 02:05:34,935
ll

3106
02:05:35,972 --> 02:05:36,506
be a presentation for those

3107
02:05:36,506 --> 02:05:37,274
that if you haven

3108
02:05:37,274 --> 02:05:38,741
t been to any

3109
02:05:38,741 --> 02:05:40,877
of the meetings, you can watch

3110
02:05:40,877 --> 02:05:42,712
the presentation and it will

3111
02:05:42,712 --> 02:05:45,482
bring you up to the current

3112
02:05:45,482 --> 02:05:46,216
information. Um, for the

3113
02:05:46,216 --> 02:05:46,883
adoption, there

3114
02:05:46,883 --> 02:05:48,617
ll be a

3115
02:05:48,617 --> 02:05:49,986
presentation of the

3116
02:05:49,986 --> 02:05:51,454
comprehensive plan at the

3117
02:05:51,454 --> 02:05:51,654
Planning and Zoning Commission.

3118
02:05:51,654 --> 02:05:52,655
They

3119
02:05:52,655 --> 02:05:54,570
ll make a recommendation

3120
02:05:54,570 --> 02:05:56,920
to council, and then it will

3121
02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:57,860
come to council for final

3122
02:05:57,860 --> 02:06:00,296
adoption. As always, these are

3123
02:06:00,296 --> 02:06:01,497
public hearings. This project

3124
02:06:01,497 --> 02:06:03,897
is expected to last

3125
02:06:03,933 --> 02:06:05,933
approximately 18 to 24 months.

3126
02:06:06,168 --> 02:06:07,504
And with that, staff is asking

3127
02:06:07,504 --> 02:06:07,770
you to approve the contract.

3128
02:06:07,770 --> 02:06:08,871
And I

3129
02:06:08,871 --> 02:06:09,706
ll be happy to answer any

3130
02:06:09,706 --> 02:06:11,700
questions.

3131
02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:14,700
All right. Any questions from

3132
02:06:16,379 --> 02:06:18,180
Scooby?

3133
02:06:18,180 --> 02:06:19,449
Thank you.

3134
02:06:19,449 --> 02:06:22,218
Anyone would like to entertain

3135
02:06:22,218 --> 02:06:22,918
a motion.

3136
02:06:22,918 --> 02:06:24,120
Second.

3137
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:25,355
All right. Motion been made by

3138
02:06:25,355 --> 02:06:26,655
Councilmember Harris. Second by

3139
02:06:26,655 --> 02:06:27,324
Councilmember Willis. All those

3140
02:06:27,324 --> 02:06:28,291
in favor say aye.

3141
02:06:28,291 --> 02:06:30,291
Aye, aye.

3142
02:06:30,426 --> 02:06:32,361
Those opposed say nay.

3143
02:06:32,361 --> 02:06:34,761
Motion passes five zero.

3144
02:06:34,764 --> 02:06:37,266
Hey, you. Hey, you were quick.

3145
02:06:37,266 --> 02:06:37,734
You were there. That was.

3146
02:06:37,734 --> 02:06:39,135
All right, let

3147
02:06:39,135 --> 02:06:41,300
s move on to

3148
02:06:41,300 --> 02:06:42,839
item number 23.

3149
02:06:42,839 --> 02:06:44,374
All right. Number 23, selection

3150
02:06:44,374 --> 02:06:45,975
of developers and allocation of

3151
02:06:45,975 --> 02:06:47,100
city owned lots for the 50 and

3152
02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:48,511
ten affordable housing

3153
02:06:48,511 --> 02:06:49,579
initiative. I call forward our

3154
02:06:49,579 --> 02:06:51,579
program coordinator, Tony

3155
02:06:52,781 --> 02:06:54,617
Parker, for the presentation.

3156
02:06:54,617 --> 02:06:55,652
Good evening, MR. Mayor. And

3157
02:06:55,652 --> 02:06:56,585
city council.

3158
02:06:56,585 --> 02:06:57,854
Good evening Tony.

3159
02:06:57,854 --> 02:06:59,550
This is a selection of

3160
02:06:59,550 --> 02:07:01,424
developers and allocation of

3161
02:07:01,424 --> 02:07:04,424
city owned plots for a 1510

3162
02:07:04,694 --> 02:07:07,563
program. We the purpose is to

3163
02:07:07,563 --> 02:07:08,832
continue the implementation of

3164
02:07:08,832 --> 02:07:10,433
the 50 and ten affordable

3165
02:07:10,433 --> 02:07:11,801
housing initiative to allocate

3166
02:07:11,801 --> 02:07:13,736
nine city owned lots for

3167
02:07:13,736 --> 02:07:15,380
affordable construction and to

3168
02:07:15,380 --> 02:07:17,380
select qualified development

3169
02:07:17,506 --> 02:07:19,108
partners. Excuse me. Um, this

3170
02:07:19,108 --> 02:07:23,308
is kind of a timeline here. Rfp

3171
02:07:23,412 --> 02:07:25,148
was issued in APRIL 2026. MAY

3172
02:07:25,148 --> 02:07:26,916
2026. Proposals were due. We

3173
02:07:26,916 --> 02:07:28,784
received three proposals, uh,

3174
02:07:28,784 --> 02:07:30,787
MAY through JUNE 2026. Staff

3175
02:07:30,787 --> 02:07:32,455
evaluation. We evaluated the

3176
02:07:32,455 --> 02:07:34,290
qualifications, experience,

3177
02:07:34,290 --> 02:07:35,391
capacity, design, approach,

3178
02:07:35,391 --> 02:07:37,391
schedule and affordability

3179
02:07:38,427 --> 02:07:39,280
requirements. AUGUST 10th. Um,

3180
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:39,662
tonight we

3181
02:07:39,662 --> 02:07:40,996
re asking for your

3182
02:07:40,996 --> 02:07:42,531
consideration and staff

3183
02:07:42,531 --> 02:07:42,832
recommendation. Um, this is

3184
02:07:42,832 --> 02:07:44,832
what we

3185
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:46,803
re recommending for the

3186
02:07:46,803 --> 02:07:49,500
three construction. The three

3187
02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:51,540
developers. We at that, we

3188
02:07:51,540 --> 02:07:52,775
chose all Joy studio, Bernie

3189
02:07:52,775 --> 02:07:54,344
and Bernie construction.

3190
02:07:54,344 --> 02:07:56,450
Strictly business. Uh,

3191
02:07:56,450 --> 02:07:58,281
builders. Um, each will have

3192
02:07:58,281 --> 02:07:59,549
three plots to build on our map

3193
02:07:59,549 --> 02:08:02,252
right here shows where these

3194
02:08:02,252 --> 02:08:03,853
locations are read. Is all joy

3195
02:08:03,853 --> 02:08:05,521
studio, Bernie and Bernie.

3196
02:08:05,521 --> 02:08:07,900
Construction is in the blue and

3197
02:08:07,900 --> 02:08:09,225
strictly business is in the

3198
02:08:09,225 --> 02:08:09,892
gold or yellow. Um, we really

3199
02:08:09,892 --> 02:08:11,194
picked these to be

3200
02:08:11,194 --> 02:08:13,194
strategically located through

3201
02:08:13,763 --> 02:08:15,965
West Greenville. Um, the

3202
02:08:15,965 --> 02:08:17,400
community benefits are working

3203
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:19,535
on nine new affordable

3204
02:08:19,535 --> 02:08:19,769
homeownership opportunities.

3205
02:08:19,769 --> 02:08:20,669
Um, we

3206
02:08:20,669 --> 02:08:22,505
re going to return some

3207
02:08:22,505 --> 02:08:24,339
of this vacant property to, uh,

3208
02:08:24,339 --> 02:08:25,841
productive use. It supports our

3209
02:08:25,841 --> 02:08:27,143
neighborhood revitalization of

3210
02:08:27,143 --> 02:08:27,910
West Greenville and also

3211
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:28,844
supports our city

3212
02:08:28,844 --> 02:08:30,746
s affordable

3213
02:08:30,746 --> 02:08:32,148
housing goals and employ small

3214
02:08:32,148 --> 02:08:34,116
businesses, local small

3215
02:08:34,116 --> 02:08:35,985
businesses. So development

3216
02:08:35,985 --> 02:08:38,421
process is the follows. Um,

3217
02:08:38,421 --> 02:08:39,956
city conveys the approved lots

3218
02:08:39,956 --> 02:08:41,724
to selected developers. The

3219
02:08:41,724 --> 02:08:42,559
developers received no notice

3220
02:08:42,559 --> 02:08:44,360
to proceed and they had 12

3221
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:46,162
months to complete the

3222
02:08:46,162 --> 02:08:47,630
construction. The developers

3223
02:08:47,630 --> 02:08:48,164
are responsible for the

3224
02:08:48,164 --> 02:08:49,364
financing, constructing,

3225
02:08:49,364 --> 02:08:51,201
marketing, and selling of the

3226
02:08:51,201 --> 02:08:52,235
homes. Um, each developer

3227
02:08:52,235 --> 02:08:54,236
market the homes through their

3228
02:08:54,236 --> 02:08:55,672
own real estate, professional,

3229
02:08:55,672 --> 02:08:55,972
and all homes will be subject

3230
02:08:55,972 --> 02:08:56,639
to the city

3231
02:08:56,639 --> 02:08:58,407
s long term

3232
02:08:58,407 --> 02:09:00,407
affordable affordability

3233
02:09:00,576 --> 02:09:02,378
requirement. Staff

3234
02:09:02,378 --> 02:09:03,479
recommendation is to approve

3235
02:09:03,479 --> 02:09:05,140
the selection of all Joy,

3236
02:09:05,140 --> 02:09:07,416
Bernie and Bernie and strictly

3237
02:09:07,416 --> 02:09:08,484
business builders and, um,

3238
02:09:08,484 --> 02:09:09,652
authorized city manager

3239
02:09:09,652 --> 02:09:11,453
negotiate and execute the

3240
02:09:11,453 --> 02:09:11,854
necessary paperwork. I

3241
02:09:11,854 --> 02:09:13,256
d be

3242
02:09:13,256 --> 02:09:14,156
glad to answer any questions.

3243
02:09:14,156 --> 02:09:17,156
All right. Any questions for

3244
02:09:18,994 --> 02:09:19,795
MR. Parker? I

3245
02:09:19,795 --> 02:09:20,730
m sorry if I

3246
02:09:20,730 --> 02:09:22,832
missed this, but is there,

3247
02:09:22,832 --> 02:09:24,333
like, a target square footage

3248
02:09:24,333 --> 02:09:26,302
for the houses, or is that

3249
02:09:26,302 --> 02:09:26,502
just. Is that coming later?

3250
02:09:26,502 --> 02:09:27,169
That

3251
02:09:27,169 --> 02:09:29,169
s coming later.

3252
02:09:31,174 --> 02:09:33,420
Okay. All right. Any other

3253
02:09:33,420 --> 02:09:33,743
questions? Anybody entertain a

3254
02:09:33,743 --> 02:09:34,744
motion?

3255
02:09:34,744 --> 02:09:36,178
Motion. To second.

3256
02:09:36,178 --> 02:09:37,747
Hey, I was just getting ready

3257
02:09:37,747 --> 02:09:39,949
to say I needed two people to

3258
02:09:39,949 --> 02:09:41,784
get involved, make some motion.

3259
02:09:41,784 --> 02:09:43,219
So I appreciate that motion

3260
02:09:43,219 --> 02:09:45,355
made by Councilmember Jones,

3261
02:09:45,355 --> 02:09:47,690
second by Mayor Pro Tem Forman.

3262
02:09:47,690 --> 02:09:49,558
And the discussion.

3263
02:09:49,558 --> 02:09:50,659
I just want to say that, um, I

3264
02:09:50,659 --> 02:09:52,395
know this has been a little bit

3265
02:09:52,395 --> 02:09:53,529
of a process, but I really

3266
02:09:53,529 --> 02:09:53,696
appreciate it.

3267
02:09:53,696 --> 02:09:54,630
It

3268
02:09:54,630 --> 02:09:54,496
s been it

3269
02:09:54,496 --> 02:09:56,365
s been a

3270
02:09:56,365 --> 02:09:57,633
gratifying process.

3271
02:09:57,633 --> 02:09:58,901
Thank you.

3272
02:09:58,901 --> 02:10:00,970
All right. Any other

3273
02:10:00,970 --> 02:10:02,538
discussion? All those in favor

3274
02:10:02,538 --> 02:10:02,839
say aye. Aye. Those opposed say

3275
02:10:02,839 --> 02:10:04,307
nay.

3276
02:10:04,307 --> 02:10:04,774
Motion passes five zero.

3277
02:10:04,774 --> 02:10:05,374
All right, let

3278
02:10:05,374 --> 02:10:07,243
s move. Tony.

3279
02:10:07,243 --> 02:10:07,376
Yes. Thank you. Tony. Um, we

3280
02:10:07,376 --> 02:10:09,376
ll

3281
02:10:09,545 --> 02:10:10,913
move on to 24.

3282
02:10:10,913 --> 02:10:11,915
All right. Item number 24,

3283
02:10:11,915 --> 02:10:13,490
memorandum of understanding

3284
02:10:13,490 --> 02:10:14,250
with the North Carolina Housing

3285
02:10:14,250 --> 02:10:15,618
Finance Agency and Pitt

3286
02:10:15,618 --> 02:10:16,886
Community College for the

3287
02:10:16,886 --> 02:10:18,621
Revive and restore a pilot

3288
02:10:18,621 --> 02:10:19,756
program. Again, I have a

3289
02:10:19,756 --> 02:10:21,756
project coordinator, Tony

3290
02:10:21,924 --> 02:10:22,525
Parker, to, um, with

3291
02:10:22,525 --> 02:10:22,992
presentation.

3292
02:10:22,992 --> 02:10:24,160
So we

3293
02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:25,361
re really excited about

3294
02:10:25,361 --> 02:10:27,290
this partnership. This is going

3295
02:10:27,290 --> 02:10:28,397
to be a great partnership, not

3296
02:10:28,397 --> 02:10:29,898
only for the city, but probably

3297
02:10:29,898 --> 02:10:31,334
for the state eventually. Um,

3298
02:10:31,334 --> 02:10:32,234
this is a memorandum of

3299
02:10:32,234 --> 02:10:33,936
understanding with the North

3300
02:10:33,936 --> 02:10:35,405
Carolina Housing Finance Agency

3301
02:10:35,405 --> 02:10:36,772
and Pitt Community College for

3302
02:10:36,772 --> 02:10:39,241
the Revive and Restore pilot

3303
02:10:39,241 --> 02:10:41,440
program. What is Revive and

3304
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:42,812
restore? This is a proposed

3305
02:10:42,812 --> 02:10:45,212
partnership between the city,

3306
02:10:45,815 --> 02:10:47,717
pcc and the Finance Agency.

3307
02:10:47,717 --> 02:10:48,784
Will be revitalizing distressed

3308
02:10:48,784 --> 02:10:50,190
areas with a two pronged

3309
02:10:50,190 --> 02:10:52,321
approach. One is acquisition

3310
02:10:52,321 --> 02:10:53,656
and rehabilitation. The other

3311
02:10:53,656 --> 02:10:55,258
is external enhancement for

3312
02:10:55,258 --> 02:10:56,859
owner occupied housing. Um,

3313
02:10:56,859 --> 02:10:58,293
this is a scaled effort to

3314
02:10:58,293 --> 02:11:00,195
enhance our workforce

3315
02:11:00,195 --> 02:11:01,531
development. This really aligns

3316
02:11:01,531 --> 02:11:02,699
with our 15 and ten affordable

3317
02:11:02,699 --> 02:11:03,433
housing initiative. It

3318
02:11:03,433 --> 02:11:05,433
s funded

3319
02:11:05,534 --> 02:11:08,300
by the financing agency with a

3320
02:11:08,300 --> 02:11:08,705
$200,000 grant. So Greenville

3321
02:11:08,705 --> 02:11:09,439
is on the move. We

3322
02:11:09,439 --> 02:11:11,341
ve done good

3323
02:11:11,341 --> 02:11:12,975
things. 50 and ten. Affordable

3324
02:11:12,975 --> 02:11:15,244
housing initiative has been

3325
02:11:15,244 --> 02:11:16,278
very successful. As Council

3326
02:11:16,278 --> 02:11:16,679
Member Forman says, it

3327
02:11:16,679 --> 02:11:17,213
s been a

3328
02:11:17,213 --> 02:11:17,580
process, but it

3329
02:11:17,580 --> 02:11:19,580
s been a

3330
02:11:19,948 --> 02:11:21,351
gratifying process. Um, Lincoln

3331
02:11:21,351 --> 02:11:21,850
Park has been done. We

3332
02:11:21,850 --> 02:11:23,519
ve built

3333
02:11:23,519 --> 02:11:25,287
several houses over there. Um,

3334
02:11:25,287 --> 02:11:26,889
pcc house Relocation

3335
02:11:26,889 --> 02:11:29,910
Partnership. It took a lot of

3336
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:30,893
work to move this house. Um,

3337
02:11:30,893 --> 02:11:32,895
existing city rehab programs,

3338
02:11:32,895 --> 02:11:34,730
um, very much involved in that.

3339
02:11:34,730 --> 02:11:35,764
And, um, the ongoing code

3340
02:11:35,764 --> 02:11:37,166
enforcement efforts are

3341
02:11:37,166 --> 02:11:38,868
happening. We have affordable

3342
02:11:38,868 --> 02:11:40,236
housing investments across West

3343
02:11:40,236 --> 02:11:42,338
Greenville. And the key point,

3344
02:11:42,338 --> 02:11:44,239
the key reality is we have all

3345
02:11:44,239 --> 02:11:47,839
the apparatus ready to go on

3346
02:11:48,430 --> 02:11:49,110
this. And the next one is a

3347
02:11:49,110 --> 02:11:51,110
little.

3348
02:12:05,227 --> 02:12:06,996
Success story.

3349
02:12:06,996 --> 02:12:07,163
We just want to show you that

3350
02:12:07,163 --> 02:12:07,296
we

3351
02:12:07,296 --> 02:12:08,831
re.

3352
02:12:08,831 --> 02:12:09,698
Moving towards.

3353
02:12:09,698 --> 02:12:10,650
Um, it seems like it

3354
02:12:10,650 --> 02:12:11,200
s been a

3355
02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:11,434
long time coming, but it really

3356
02:12:11,434 --> 02:12:13,269
is. It

3357
02:12:13,269 --> 02:12:14,603
s been a great process.

3358
02:12:14,603 --> 02:12:14,970
So what is the collaborative

3359
02:12:14,970 --> 02:12:15,505
structure? We

3360
02:12:15,505 --> 02:12:16,472
re going to have

3361
02:12:16,472 --> 02:12:16,805
city Greenville. We

3362
02:12:16,805 --> 02:12:18,805
ll do the

3363
02:12:18,908 --> 02:12:20,710
property identification and

3364
02:12:20,710 --> 02:12:22,100
acquisition, project management

3365
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:23,813
assistance. Community College

3366
02:12:23,813 --> 02:12:25,414
will do the city engagement and

3367
02:12:25,414 --> 02:12:27,316
continuing continuing education

3368
02:12:27,316 --> 02:12:29,318
programming. The finance agency

3369
02:12:29,318 --> 02:12:31,954
will pilot funding, will pilot

3370
02:12:31,954 --> 02:12:33,689
the fund, will fund the pilot

3371
02:12:33,689 --> 02:12:36,689
for us and the strategic

3372
02:12:36,925 --> 02:12:39,362
guidance. Um, this is our

3373
02:12:39,362 --> 02:12:40,329
proposed timeline this year. In

3374
02:12:40,329 --> 02:12:41,830
JUNE of JULY, we did the

3375
02:12:41,830 --> 02:12:43,298
planning and funding approvals.

3376
02:12:43,298 --> 02:12:43,466
Then in AUGUST, SEPTEMBER,

3377
02:12:43,466 --> 02:12:44,333
we

3378
02:12:44,333 --> 02:12:46,402
re going to do the launch of

3379
02:12:46,402 --> 02:12:47,737
the pilot program. Pcc student

3380
02:12:47,737 --> 02:12:49,538
engagement begins and

3381
02:12:49,538 --> 02:12:51,340
rehabilitation work will be

3382
02:12:51,340 --> 02:12:52,274
initiated this coming fall

3383
02:12:52,274 --> 02:12:52,575
through spring. We

3384
02:12:52,575 --> 02:12:53,943
re going to

3385
02:12:53,943 --> 02:12:55,644
see ongoing rehabilitation

3386
02:12:55,644 --> 02:12:57,279
activity, exterior neighborhood

3387
02:12:57,279 --> 02:12:59,448
improvements, and the workforce

3388
02:12:59,448 --> 02:13:00,549
training implementation. This

3389
02:13:00,549 --> 02:13:02,384
spring, we should see initial

3390
02:13:02,384 --> 02:13:03,919
pilot completion. There will be

3391
02:13:03,919 --> 02:13:05,488
a before and after evaluation

3392
02:13:05,488 --> 02:13:07,523
of this and scalability

3393
02:13:07,523 --> 02:13:09,923
assessment and year two

3394
02:13:11,860 --> 02:13:13,161
expansion of the model. Staff

3395
02:13:13,161 --> 02:13:14,730
recommends that City Council

3396
02:13:14,730 --> 02:13:15,797
approved the memorandum with

3397
02:13:15,797 --> 02:13:17,433
the North Carolina Housing

3398
02:13:17,433 --> 02:13:18,934
Finance Agency for reviving the

3399
02:13:18,934 --> 02:13:20,269
restored pilot program and

3400
02:13:20,269 --> 02:13:22,571
authorize the City Manager, or

3401
02:13:22,571 --> 02:13:23,973
his designee to execute the Mou

3402
02:13:23,973 --> 02:13:25,307
and any related agreements. Et

3403
02:13:25,307 --> 02:13:26,576
cetera. One thing I do would

3404
02:13:26,576 --> 02:13:27,977
like to say also, is that this

3405
02:13:27,977 --> 02:13:29,745
is looked at as possibly a

3406
02:13:29,745 --> 02:13:30,246
pilot for the state. Um, it

3407
02:13:30,246 --> 02:13:32,246
s a

3408
02:13:32,582 --> 02:13:32,815
good program, good partnership.

3409
02:13:32,815 --> 02:13:34,815
And I

3410
02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:37,530
ll take any questions..

3411
02:13:37,530 --> 02:13:40,289
No questions. But I will say

3412
02:13:40,289 --> 02:13:41,957
this the 15 and ten and the

3413
02:13:41,957 --> 02:13:43,659
rehabilitation projects, it is

3414
02:13:43,659 --> 02:13:44,527
truly transformative for our

3415
02:13:44,527 --> 02:13:46,495
city. But I

3416
02:13:46,495 --> 02:13:46,862
m absolutely, 100%

3417
02:13:46,862 --> 02:13:47,996
sure it

3418
02:13:47,996 --> 02:13:49,232
s going to be copied by

3419
02:13:49,232 --> 02:13:51,100
others in our state and maybe

3420
02:13:51,100 --> 02:13:52,167
probably even outside. So thank

3421
02:13:52,167 --> 02:13:54,300
for all the partnership and

3422
02:13:54,300 --> 02:13:56,105
particularly those at pcc and

3423
02:13:56,105 --> 02:13:57,573
the person who started us off

3424
02:13:57,573 --> 02:13:58,600
with a vision about doing this

3425
02:13:58,600 --> 02:13:58,540
and everybody

3426
02:13:58,540 --> 02:13:59,642
s coming

3427
02:13:59,642 --> 02:14:01,760
together. This is an amazing

3428
02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:02,345
project. And Tony, I appreciate

3429
02:14:02,345 --> 02:14:03,412
your help and everybody that

3430
02:14:03,412 --> 02:14:03,846
works with you to make all this

3431
02:14:03,846 --> 02:14:04,947
happen.

3432
02:14:04,947 --> 02:14:05,614
Well, we appreciate your

3433
02:14:05,614 --> 02:14:06,215
support. Also. It

3434
02:14:06,215 --> 02:14:08,215
s been

3435
02:14:09,819 --> 02:14:10,519
partnership with us all.

3436
02:14:10,519 --> 02:14:12,519
All right.

3437
02:14:12,654 --> 02:14:13,422
Move to approve second.

3438
02:14:13,422 --> 02:14:13,755
All right.

3439
02:14:13,755 --> 02:14:15,755
All right.

3440
02:14:15,958 --> 02:14:17,920
Thank you. All right. Motion

3441
02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:18,761
down there. I know.

3442
02:14:18,761 --> 02:14:20,129
I like it. All right. Most of

3443
02:14:20,129 --> 02:14:22,832
them are made by Mayor Pro Tem

3444
02:14:22,832 --> 02:14:25,232
Forman. Second by Councilmember

3445
02:14:27,436 --> 02:14:28,871
Jones. Any other discussion?

3446
02:14:28,871 --> 02:14:29,305
All those in favor say aye.

3447
02:14:29,305 --> 02:14:30,739
Aye.

3448
02:14:30,739 --> 02:14:32,341
Those opposed say nay.

3449
02:14:32,341 --> 02:14:33,175
Motion passes five zero.

3450
02:14:33,175 --> 02:14:33,442
Thank you very much. We

3451
02:14:33,442 --> 02:14:35,411
ll now

3452
02:14:35,411 --> 02:14:37,113
move on to item number 25.

3453
02:14:37,113 --> 02:14:38,247
Item number 25, budget

3454
02:14:38,247 --> 02:14:41,247
ordinance number one, on many

3455
02:14:41,383 --> 02:14:43,783
of the 20, 2627 General Fund

3456
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:45,587
Ordinance. Number 26035

3457
02:14:45,587 --> 02:14:47,587
Inspections Fund ordinance

3458
02:14:48,257 --> 02:14:49,325
number 26035, capital Project

3459
02:14:49,325 --> 02:14:51,325
Management Fund. Ordinance

3460
02:14:52,995 --> 02:14:54,296
Number 240410. Engineering

3461
02:14:54,296 --> 02:14:56,365
Capital Project Fund. Ordinance

3462
02:14:56,365 --> 02:14:57,533
Number 22019. Street

3463
02:14:57,533 --> 02:14:59,533
Improvement Bond Fund.

3464
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:01,536
Ordinance Number 17024.

3465
02:15:01,536 --> 02:15:03,936
Greenways Capital Project Fund,

3466
02:15:04,407 --> 02:15:06,108
or number 122007. And Special

3467
02:15:06,108 --> 02:15:08,508
Revenue Grants Fund Ordinance

3468
02:15:09,578 --> 02:15:11,460
Number 11003. And now ask our

3469
02:15:11,460 --> 02:15:12,447
Chief Financial Officer, Jacob

3470
02:15:12,447 --> 02:15:13,349
Joyner, to provide the

3471
02:15:13,349 --> 02:15:14,249
presentation.

3472
02:15:14,249 --> 02:15:16,252
All right. Good evening.

3473
02:15:16,252 --> 02:15:17,887
Council members. MR. Mayor,

3474
02:15:17,887 --> 02:15:19,321
good evening. Uh, we got budget

3475
02:15:19,321 --> 02:15:22,240
amendment number one for fiscal

3476
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:23,726
year 27. Uh, will be impacting

3477
02:15:23,726 --> 02:15:25,428
the general fund inspection

3478
02:15:25,428 --> 02:15:27,196
fund, capital project fund,

3479
02:15:27,196 --> 02:15:27,964
greenways engineering capital

3480
02:15:27,964 --> 02:15:29,132
project fund, street

3481
02:15:29,132 --> 02:15:30,967
improvement bond fund, and

3482
02:15:30,967 --> 02:15:32,267
special revenue grant fund. We

3483
02:15:32,267 --> 02:15:33,668
have item a which is

3484
02:15:33,668 --> 02:15:35,805
appropriate fund balance for

3485
02:15:35,805 --> 02:15:36,772
the comprehensive land use plan

3486
02:15:36,772 --> 02:15:39,772
that will increase the general

3487
02:15:39,909 --> 02:15:41,100
fund $400,000. Item b

3488
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:42,311
recognizes expenditures and

3489
02:15:42,311 --> 02:15:43,378
revenues for code enforcement

3490
02:15:43,378 --> 02:15:45,378
arising from city

3491
02:15:45,781 --> 02:15:46,480
revitalization, reorganization.

3492
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:46,549
Uh, that

3493
02:15:46,549 --> 02:15:47,750
s going to increase

3494
02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:50,118
the inspections fund by

3495
02:15:50,118 --> 02:15:51,620
$800,000. Uh, item c will be

3496
02:15:51,620 --> 02:15:52,288
closing the Greenways Project

3497
02:15:52,288 --> 02:15:52,754
Fund. Uh, that

3498
02:15:52,754 --> 02:15:52,888
s one that

3499
02:15:52,888 --> 02:15:54,888
s

3500
02:15:55,424 --> 02:15:56,726
been around since about 2015, i

3501
02:15:56,726 --> 02:15:58,894
believe. Um, and using the

3502
02:15:58,894 --> 02:16:01,631
remaining balances to, uh, fund

3503
02:16:01,631 --> 02:16:02,998
the Wildwood Boardwalk project,

3504
02:16:02,998 --> 02:16:05,340
uh, that will be increasing the

3505
02:16:05,340 --> 02:16:07,434
capital project fund by

3506
02:16:07,836 --> 02:16:09,836
$252,000 and decreasing the

3507
02:16:10,206 --> 02:16:11,840
Greenways Fund 6.6 million,

3508
02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:13,209
which is what the total budget

3509
02:16:13,209 --> 02:16:13,843
for that fund was at the time.

3510
02:16:13,843 --> 02:16:15,644
So there

3511
02:16:15,644 --> 02:16:17,246
s about $400,000 left

3512
02:16:17,246 --> 02:16:19,148
over. Uh, once all the projects

3513
02:16:19,148 --> 02:16:20,349
were completed, item d would be

3514
02:16:20,349 --> 02:16:21,583
appropriating fund balance and

3515
02:16:21,583 --> 02:16:23,252
recognizing revenues for the

3516
02:16:23,252 --> 02:16:24,486
ShotSpotter program that will

3517
02:16:24,486 --> 02:16:26,886
increase special revenue. Grant

3518
02:16:28,757 --> 02:16:30,225
fund $169,000. And be

3519
02:16:30,225 --> 02:16:31,226
recognizing federal forfeiture

3520
02:16:31,226 --> 02:16:32,561
funds that will be in the

3521
02:16:32,561 --> 02:16:34,961
general fund and increasing

3522
02:16:36,265 --> 02:16:37,633
that $139,000. Item f

3523
02:16:37,633 --> 02:16:38,834
reallocating funds from the

3524
02:16:38,834 --> 02:16:39,801
Stream Permanent Bond Fund to

3525
02:16:39,801 --> 02:16:40,870
the North South Connector

3526
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:41,103
project. Uh, that

3527
02:16:41,103 --> 02:16:42,400
ll be

3528
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:42,871
increasing the Engineering

3529
02:16:42,871 --> 02:16:44,840
Capital Project fund by

3530
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:45,407
$250,000, and there

3531
02:16:45,407 --> 02:16:46,442
ll be no

3532
02:16:46,442 --> 02:16:48,177
overall change to the Street

3533
02:16:48,177 --> 02:16:49,544
Improvement Bond fund. Um, and

3534
02:16:49,544 --> 02:16:51,347
item g, recognizing donation

3535
02:16:51,347 --> 02:16:52,415
for the Wildwood West Fishing

3536
02:16:52,415 --> 02:16:52,648
Access project. And that

3537
02:16:52,648 --> 02:16:53,950
ll be

3538
02:16:53,950 --> 02:16:56,350
increasing the capital project

3539
02:16:58,253 --> 02:16:59,455
fund by $125,000. Although that

3540
02:16:59,455 --> 02:17:01,757
brings the operating fund

3541
02:17:01,757 --> 02:17:03,659
budget, uh, to just over 200

3542
02:17:03,659 --> 02:17:04,459
million. And we recommend the

3543
02:17:04,459 --> 02:17:06,459
council approved budget

3544
02:17:06,895 --> 02:17:09,295
ordinance amendment number one.

3545
02:17:10,499 --> 02:17:11,266
Any questions?

3546
02:17:11,266 --> 02:17:12,334
Motion to.

3547
02:17:12,334 --> 02:17:14,169
Approve. Second.

3548
02:17:14,169 --> 02:17:15,237
All right. Most of them have a

3549
02:17:15,237 --> 02:17:16,639
Councillor Willis. Second by

3550
02:17:16,639 --> 02:17:19,390
Councilmember Jones. Any other

3551
02:17:19,208 --> 02:17:19,508
discussion? All those in favor

3552
02:17:19,508 --> 02:17:19,841
say aye.

3553
02:17:19,841 --> 02:17:20,942
Aye.

3554
02:17:20,942 --> 02:17:22,511
Those opposed say nay.

3555
02:17:22,511 --> 02:17:24,911
Motion passes five zero.

3556
02:17:25,281 --> 02:17:27,749
Shall move on to review of the

3557
02:17:27,749 --> 02:17:28,150
AUGUST 13th, 2026 City Council

3558
02:17:28,150 --> 02:17:28,984
agenda.

3559
02:17:28,984 --> 02:17:30,984
MR. Maddox.

3560
02:17:31,220 --> 02:17:32,421
The for that agenda be put on

3561
02:17:32,421 --> 02:17:32,822
the screen for the public

3562
02:17:32,822 --> 02:17:33,589
s

3563
02:17:33,589 --> 02:17:34,657
viewing. We

3564
02:17:34,657 --> 02:17:37,657
ll give that a few

3565
02:17:52,642 --> 02:17:54,430
seconds.

3566
02:17:54,430 --> 02:17:55,177
All right, all right. Move on

3567
02:17:55,177 --> 02:17:56,679
to the city manager report.

3568
02:17:56,679 --> 02:17:59,315
Just a couple things I would

3569
02:17:59,315 --> 02:18:01,750
like to welcome all of our ecu

3570
02:18:01,750 --> 02:18:02,851
students back for the semester

3571
02:18:02,851 --> 02:18:03,619
they have returned. You might

3572
02:18:03,619 --> 02:18:05,621
have seen a little bit of

3573
02:18:05,621 --> 02:18:07,456
change in the traffic that we

3574
02:18:07,456 --> 02:18:09,258
are excited for them to be

3575
02:18:09,258 --> 02:18:11,726
back. Sure, we will get to know

3576
02:18:11,726 --> 02:18:13,529
some of them. Real person over

3577
02:18:13,529 --> 02:18:15,463
the next. Over the next few

3578
02:18:15,463 --> 02:18:15,597
weeks. And then finally, I

3579
02:18:15,597 --> 02:18:16,432
ll

3580
02:18:16,432 --> 02:18:18,233
tell you what, I just have to

3581
02:18:18,233 --> 02:18:21,937
give a big shout out to the

3582
02:18:21,937 --> 02:18:23,738
city and staff for another

3583
02:18:23,738 --> 02:18:26,138
great little League softball

3584
02:18:26,141 --> 02:18:28,176
World Series. You will never

3585
02:18:28,176 --> 02:18:30,178
understand the amount of effort

3586
02:18:30,178 --> 02:18:32,615
that goes into that behind the

3587
02:18:32,615 --> 02:18:34,983
scenes from our fire Rescue

3588
02:18:34,983 --> 02:18:37,383
police, the miraculous work

3589
02:18:37,419 --> 02:18:39,321
that Recreation and Parks does

3590
02:18:39,321 --> 02:18:40,889
are solid waste department. And

3591
02:18:40,889 --> 02:18:42,692
then our special events

3592
02:18:42,692 --> 02:18:44,326
department as well. They just

3593
02:18:44,326 --> 02:18:46,726
absolutely no pun intended.

3594
02:18:46,762 --> 02:18:48,297
Knock it out of the park. And

3595
02:18:48,297 --> 02:18:49,799
you know, it has an opportunity

3596
02:18:49,799 --> 02:18:51,990
to show all the great things

3597
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:53,350
that we have here in Greenville

3598
02:18:53,350 --> 02:18:54,203
and the comments from people

3599
02:18:54,203 --> 02:18:56,906
all around the country and the

3600
02:18:56,906 --> 02:18:58,640
world about our, our community.

3601
02:18:58,640 --> 02:18:59,641
It really feels good. You know,

3602
02:18:59,641 --> 02:19:01,543
when you put that much effort

3603
02:19:01,543 --> 02:19:02,978
into it to to know that people

3604
02:19:02,978 --> 02:19:04,346
really appreciate what we have

3605
02:19:04,346 --> 02:19:05,547
here, right here in Greenville.

3606
02:19:05,547 --> 02:19:06,815
So again, I

3607
02:19:06,815 --> 02:19:09,384
d like to say thank

3608
02:19:09,384 --> 02:19:11,152
you. Uh, to the best staff in

3609
02:19:11,152 --> 02:19:12,788
the whole wide world. The staff

3610
02:19:12,788 --> 02:19:12,922
of this evening. Thank you. So

3611
02:19:12,922 --> 02:19:14,922
I.

3612
02:19:19,394 --> 02:19:20,262
Have a.

3613
02:19:20,262 --> 02:19:20,862
All right. City attorney

3614
02:19:20,862 --> 02:19:21,897
s

3615
02:19:21,897 --> 02:19:22,865
report.

3616
02:19:22,865 --> 02:19:23,131
Thank you, MR. Mayor. I

3617
02:19:23,131 --> 02:19:24,900
ll just

3618
02:19:24,900 --> 02:19:26,680
say quickly. Um, the council

3619
02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:27,436
had two good meetings tonight.

3620
02:19:27,436 --> 02:19:29,672
The workshop and this meeting.

3621
02:19:29,672 --> 02:19:30,205
And, um, also a shout out to

3622
02:19:30,205 --> 02:19:31,207
the city attorney

3623
02:19:31,207 --> 02:19:32,775
s office. Get

3624
02:19:32,775 --> 02:19:34,676
to find assistant city attorney

3625
02:19:34,676 --> 02:19:36,678
sitting over there with a

3626
02:19:36,678 --> 02:19:38,790
strong, silent type of a lot of

3627
02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:40,950
the background work gets done.

3628
02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:42,651
And, um, so, uh, kudos and

3629
02:19:42,651 --> 02:19:43,586
thanks to to the staff, I have

3630
02:19:43,586 --> 02:19:43,986
two assistants sitting right

3631
02:19:43,986 --> 02:19:45,986
there, two that.

3632
02:19:46,455 --> 02:19:48,455
Were absolutely awesome.

3633
02:19:48,657 --> 02:19:48,991
I.. I gonna say, you

3634
02:19:48,991 --> 02:19:50,125
re lucky

3635
02:19:50,125 --> 02:19:50,326
you said that. I could see

3636
02:19:50,326 --> 02:19:51,293
both.

3637
02:19:51,293 --> 02:19:51,393
Of them a little. I don

3638
02:19:51,393 --> 02:19:51,593
t.

3639
02:19:51,593 --> 02:19:51,827
Know.

3640
02:19:51,827 --> 02:19:52,561
What he

3641
02:19:52,561 --> 02:19:52,895
s trying to do right

3642
02:19:52,895 --> 02:19:53,329
here.

3643
02:19:53,329 --> 02:19:55,329
Okay? I

3644
02:19:55,397 --> 02:19:57,333
m trying to do. Yeah.

3645
02:19:57,333 --> 02:19:57,933
Nope. Hey, no pressure during

3646
02:19:57,933 --> 02:19:58,266
the city clerk

3647
02:19:58,266 --> 02:19:59,734
s.

3648
02:19:59,734 --> 02:20:01,734
Report.

3649
02:20:02,237 --> 02:20:05,730
You guys already know my staff.

3650
02:20:05,730 --> 02:20:05,608
A one, as always. Thank you.

3651
02:20:05,608 --> 02:20:06,575
Back there.

3652
02:20:06,575 --> 02:20:07,175
Hey, one of them laughed.

3653
02:20:07,175 --> 02:20:07,342
I think.

3654
02:20:07,342 --> 02:20:08,577
It

3655
02:20:08,577 --> 02:20:08,844
s okay in spirit. She

3656
02:20:08,844 --> 02:20:09,645
s.

3657
02:20:09,645 --> 02:20:09,811
She knows.

3658
02:20:09,811 --> 02:20:10,946
She

3659
02:20:10,946 --> 02:20:11,614
s doing the dirty work

3660
02:20:11,614 --> 02:20:12,114
behind the scenes.

3661
02:20:12,114 --> 02:20:13,150
Okay. That

3662
02:20:13,150 --> 02:20:14,617
s right, I gotcha.

3663
02:20:14,617 --> 02:20:16,652
And last thing is, just welcome

3664
02:20:16,652 --> 02:20:18,187
back, students. All right.

3665
02:20:18,187 --> 02:20:18,354
All right. Thank you very much.

3666
02:20:18,354 --> 02:20:20,354
Let

3667
02:20:22,910 --> 02:20:23,425
s start with the okay.

3668
02:20:23,425 --> 02:20:24,893
Councilmember Robinson.

3669
02:20:24,893 --> 02:20:25,994
Thank you, MR. Mayor.

3670
02:20:25,994 --> 02:20:27,829
Um.

3671
02:20:27,829 --> 02:20:27,963
Glad to have the students back.

3672
02:20:27,963 --> 02:20:29,264
I

3673
02:20:29,264 --> 02:20:31,670
m asking everybody in

3674
02:20:31,670 --> 02:20:32,835
Greenville have a little more

3675
02:20:32,835 --> 02:20:34,370
patience. Take a little more

3676
02:20:34,370 --> 02:20:35,337
careful look at intersections

3677
02:20:35,337 --> 02:20:36,238
and whatnot, because we

3678
02:20:36,238 --> 02:20:37,172
probably got a lot of kids

3679
02:20:37,172 --> 02:20:38,600
coming to Greenville for the

3680
02:20:38,600 --> 02:20:38,640
first time. They

3681
02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:39,774
ve not been

3682
02:20:39,774 --> 02:20:40,242
here. And their first time out

3683
02:20:40,242 --> 02:20:40,609
of the house, they

3684
02:20:40,609 --> 02:20:41,677
re probably

3685
02:20:41,677 --> 02:20:43,912
going to be distracted. So take

3686
02:20:43,912 --> 02:20:44,980
a little more caution, be a

3687
02:20:44,980 --> 02:20:45,147
little more attentive to what

3688
02:20:45,147 --> 02:20:47,147
you

3689
02:20:47,349 --> 02:20:49,385
re doing, and be patient as

3690
02:20:49,385 --> 02:20:50,619
they move in and get settled

3691
02:20:50,619 --> 02:20:51,453
in, because there are benefit

3692
02:20:51,453 --> 02:20:52,787
to our community. We look

3693
02:20:52,787 --> 02:20:53,588
forward to seeing them. Uh,

3694
02:20:53,588 --> 02:20:55,457
number two, I

3695
02:20:55,457 --> 02:20:57,590
m so, so excited

3696
02:20:57,590 --> 02:20:57,826
about the sports complex is

3697
02:20:57,826 --> 02:20:58,294
coming to fruition. It

3698
02:20:58,294 --> 02:20:59,561
s been a

3699
02:20:59,561 --> 02:20:59,762
long time coming, but we

3700
02:20:59,762 --> 02:21:01,620
re

3701
02:21:01,620 --> 02:21:02,698
making that progress now and

3702
02:21:02,698 --> 02:21:03,899
starting to turn over dirt and

3703
02:21:03,899 --> 02:21:04,990
putting down the fields. And

3704
02:21:04,990 --> 02:21:06,990
that

3705
02:21:06,334 --> 02:21:07,936
s exciting. And I think if

3706
02:21:07,936 --> 02:21:10,405
any of you watch what happened

3707
02:21:10,405 --> 02:21:12,708
the last nine days, take that

3708
02:21:12,708 --> 02:21:14,676
and put it, uh, somewhat on a

3709
02:21:14,676 --> 02:21:16,344
every weekend basis for 45

3710
02:21:16,344 --> 02:21:16,545
weekends a year and see what

3711
02:21:16,545 --> 02:21:17,178
that

3712
02:21:17,178 --> 02:21:17,879
s going to do for our

3713
02:21:17,879 --> 02:21:18,147
community, because it

3714
02:21:18,147 --> 02:21:19,982
s going

3715
02:21:19,982 --> 02:21:20,182
to do great things. Uh, I

3716
02:21:20,182 --> 02:21:21,517
m

3717
02:21:21,517 --> 02:21:22,918
excited about the boardwalk,

3718
02:21:22,918 --> 02:21:24,530
Wildwood Park connecting the

3719
02:21:24,530 --> 02:21:25,320
two. I hope we

3720
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:26,521
ll look at maybe

3721
02:21:26,521 --> 02:21:28,457
trying to figure out how to

3722
02:21:28,457 --> 02:21:29,758
utilize the mobile home parks

3723
02:21:29,758 --> 02:21:30,860
that, you know, to perhaps

3724
02:21:30,860 --> 02:21:31,659
figure out a way to connect

3725
02:21:31,659 --> 02:21:33,395
that, because that would give

3726
02:21:33,395 --> 02:21:34,897
us some additional land to put

3727
02:21:34,897 --> 02:21:36,832
more hiking trails in or nature

3728
02:21:36,832 --> 02:21:37,666
viewing or whatnot. I mentioned

3729
02:21:37,666 --> 02:21:37,999
that last time, but I

3730
02:21:37,999 --> 02:21:39,999
m so

3731
02:21:41,203 --> 02:21:42,470
excited about that. Um, really,

3732
02:21:42,470 --> 02:21:44,390
really want to give some kudos

3733
02:21:44,390 --> 02:21:44,306
out to Rich ballot. Uh, you

3734
02:21:44,306 --> 02:21:46,306
know, it

3735
02:21:47,309 --> 02:21:48,810
s just another example

3736
02:21:48,810 --> 02:21:50,779
of one of our local business

3737
02:21:50,779 --> 02:21:51,780
people stepping up and not just

3738
02:21:51,780 --> 02:21:53,748
doing his business in

3739
02:21:53,748 --> 02:21:55,617
Greenville, but giving back to

3740
02:21:55,617 --> 02:21:57,850
Greenville. He helped negotiate

3741
02:21:57,850 --> 02:21:58,620
the land deal for us. He put

3742
02:21:58,620 --> 02:21:59,121
the pier in at Wildwood Park,

3743
02:21:59,121 --> 02:22:00,222
and that

3744
02:22:00,222 --> 02:22:01,256
s just touching on

3745
02:22:01,256 --> 02:22:03,225
some of the things that that

3746
02:22:03,225 --> 02:22:04,326
man is doing. So rich, I hope

3747
02:22:04,326 --> 02:22:05,194
you see this, and I hope you

3748
02:22:05,194 --> 02:22:06,228
understand how much we

3749
02:22:06,228 --> 02:22:07,195
appreciate what you and your

3750
02:22:07,195 --> 02:22:08,597
family are doing for

3751
02:22:08,597 --> 02:22:10,298
Greenville, because I do know

3752
02:22:10,298 --> 02:22:11,633
you give back to to those who

3753
02:22:11,633 --> 02:22:14,633
help you. So I appreciate

3754
02:22:16,938 --> 02:22:19,608
everything you do. Um. This

3755
02:22:19,608 --> 02:22:20,709
past weekend, uh, Brandon Kraft

3756
02:22:20,709 --> 02:22:21,610
at the very back. Brandon,

3757
02:22:21,610 --> 02:22:21,743
thank you for doing what you

3758
02:22:21,743 --> 02:22:23,743
re

3759
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:25,347
doing. There was a fly in at

3760
02:22:25,347 --> 02:22:26,648
Greenville Airport, and I

3761
02:22:26,648 --> 02:22:28,648
m

3762
02:22:30,318 --> 02:22:31,786
told 1143 people attended that

3763
02:22:31,786 --> 02:22:32,540
event, which was amazing. I

3764
02:22:32,540 --> 02:22:32,488
think y

3765
02:22:32,488 --> 02:22:33,422
all didn

3766
02:22:33,422 --> 02:22:35,240
t quite expect

3767
02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:35,657
that many, but I think that

3768
02:22:35,657 --> 02:22:36,691
says what you

3769
02:22:36,691 --> 02:22:38,761
re doing to to

3770
02:22:38,761 --> 02:22:40,596
create a new, uh, atmosphere

3771
02:22:40,596 --> 02:22:41,663
for the airport. And I look

3772
02:22:41,663 --> 02:22:41,830
forward to seeing what more

3773
02:22:41,830 --> 02:22:42,464
you

3774
02:22:42,464 --> 02:22:43,632
re going to do, because I

3775
02:22:43,632 --> 02:22:43,765
have great ideas that you

3776
02:22:43,765 --> 02:22:44,833
re

3777
02:22:44,833 --> 02:22:45,400
going to do a wonderful things

3778
02:22:45,400 --> 02:22:45,700
at airport, and we

3779
02:22:45,700 --> 02:22:46,568
re going to

3780
02:22:46,568 --> 02:22:50,500
keep moving it in the right

3781
02:22:50,500 --> 02:22:50,205
direction. Finally, um, I don

3782
02:22:50,205 --> 02:22:52,174
t

3783
02:22:52,174 --> 02:22:54,910
think we know how big the the

3784
02:22:54,910 --> 02:22:56,110
World Series. Of Softball is. I

3785
02:22:56,110 --> 02:22:57,312
mean, people from all over the

3786
02:22:57,312 --> 02:22:59,712
world were watching Greenville,

3787
02:23:00,282 --> 02:23:01,683
North Carolina for nine days.

3788
02:23:01,683 --> 02:23:01,917
But more importantly, I don

3789
02:23:01,917 --> 02:23:03,917
t

3790
02:23:04,253 --> 02:23:05,754
think we really understand the

3791
02:23:05,754 --> 02:23:07,550
manpower and the woman power

3792
02:23:07,550 --> 02:23:08,957
that has to go in to make this

3793
02:23:08,957 --> 02:23:10,559
thing go off as the way it did

3794
02:23:10,559 --> 02:23:11,893
from our volunteers to our

3795
02:23:11,893 --> 02:23:14,596
staff workers to our employees,

3796
02:23:14,596 --> 02:23:16,297
to ems, fire, police. I mean,

3797
02:23:16,297 --> 02:23:18,697
the field was absolutely

3798
02:23:19,234 --> 02:23:19,768
gorgeous. Everything like it

3799
02:23:19,768 --> 02:23:20,350
was. Well, and we

3800
02:23:20,350 --> 02:23:20,202
re seeing

3801
02:23:20,202 --> 02:23:20,969
it

3802
02:23:20,969 --> 02:23:21,770
s like we do it every

3803
02:23:21,770 --> 02:23:23,138
weekend. I

3804
02:23:23,138 --> 02:23:24,600
m just amazed at

3805
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:25,240
that. And I think it

3806
02:23:25,240 --> 02:23:27,760
s amazing

3807
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:28,760
to see what we do on the world

3808
02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:30,779
stage, because we were on the

3809
02:23:30,779 --> 02:23:31,130
world stage for nine days. And,

3810
02:23:31,130 --> 02:23:32,648
uh, it

3811
02:23:32,648 --> 02:23:34,550
s cool to see that and

3812
02:23:34,550 --> 02:23:34,716
to hear people just listen when

3813
02:23:34,716 --> 02:23:35,884
you

3814
02:23:35,884 --> 02:23:36,918
re in the stands. And the

3815
02:23:36,918 --> 02:23:38,287
council member Willis was up

3816
02:23:38,287 --> 02:23:39,722
there with her family and just

3817
02:23:39,722 --> 02:23:41,123
listening to people talk about

3818
02:23:41,123 --> 02:23:42,423
rambling. Wow, this is such a

3819
02:23:42,423 --> 02:23:44,226
big event and seeing the pro

3820
02:23:44,226 --> 02:23:47,226
players coming here. Oh man,

3821
02:23:47,262 --> 02:23:48,563
that is so special. Uh, and we

3822
02:23:48,563 --> 02:23:49,931
need to keep doing that, that

3823
02:23:49,931 --> 02:23:51,233
program, because it is very

3824
02:23:51,233 --> 02:23:52,835
unique. And the cool thing

3825
02:23:52,835 --> 02:23:53,969
about is when you look in the

3826
02:23:53,969 --> 02:23:55,637
dugouts, whether they were from

3827
02:23:55,637 --> 02:23:57,839
Japan or from Italy or Canada

3828
02:23:57,839 --> 02:23:59,808
or Florida or Kentucky or North

3829
02:23:59,808 --> 02:24:01,209
Carolina, all these kids have

3830
02:24:01,209 --> 02:24:02,644
the same faces and motivation

3831
02:24:02,644 --> 02:24:03,445
to try and play softball and

3832
02:24:03,445 --> 02:24:04,179
win. And I

3833
02:24:04,179 --> 02:24:05,313
m so happy that

3834
02:24:05,313 --> 02:24:05,947
North Carolina or as they say,

3835
02:24:05,947 --> 02:24:06,515
Jocko, that

3836
02:24:06,515 --> 02:24:08,851
s what they call

3837
02:24:08,851 --> 02:24:10,185
it. Jocko. Um, my wife has some

3838
02:24:10,185 --> 02:24:11,420
relatives that know a lot of

3839
02:24:11,420 --> 02:24:13,188
these players, and they came

3840
02:24:13,188 --> 02:24:14,790
down. So, uh, congratulations

3841
02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:16,491
to North Carolina. I hope that

3842
02:24:16,491 --> 02:24:18,193
we can perhaps get them in

3843
02:24:18,193 --> 02:24:19,961
here. Uh, and one of our future

3844
02:24:19,961 --> 02:24:21,262
meetings to recognize them. And

3845
02:24:21,262 --> 02:24:22,597
those young ladies who put hard

3846
02:24:22,597 --> 02:24:22,797
work in. And I think something

3847
02:24:22,797 --> 02:24:24,766
that

3848
02:24:24,766 --> 02:24:26,680
s telling is that if you

3849
02:24:26,680 --> 02:24:27,569
talk to these young ladies and

3850
02:24:27,569 --> 02:24:29,170
my wife is talking to her

3851
02:24:29,170 --> 02:24:30,672
relatives, a lot of these young

3852
02:24:30,672 --> 02:24:30,873
girls and the mayor knows this,

3853
02:24:30,873 --> 02:24:31,673
they

3854
02:24:31,673 --> 02:24:33,742
ve been playing travel

3855
02:24:33,742 --> 02:24:34,910
ball for 3 or 4 years before

3856
02:24:34,910 --> 02:24:36,378
they even come up to a stage

3857
02:24:36,378 --> 02:24:37,680
like this. And so, again, I

3858
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:39,314
think that illustrates the

3859
02:24:39,314 --> 02:24:39,448
importance of a sports complex.

3860
02:24:39,448 --> 02:24:41,116
I

3861
02:24:41,116 --> 02:24:42,518
m so proud of our city for

3862
02:24:42,518 --> 02:24:44,420
putting us on the world stage

3863
02:24:44,420 --> 02:24:46,421
and as a diamond to be seen and

3864
02:24:46,421 --> 02:24:47,589
be shown and brag about some

3865
02:24:47,589 --> 02:24:48,723
super proud of our city. And

3866
02:24:48,723 --> 02:24:49,958
everybody helped put that on.

3867
02:24:49,958 --> 02:24:50,292
And, uh, I just can

3868
02:24:50,292 --> 02:24:50,959
t say

3869
02:24:50,959 --> 02:24:51,527
enough words. I

3870
02:24:51,527 --> 02:24:52,561
m very happy

3871
02:24:52,561 --> 02:24:54,830
about that. And I look forward

3872
02:24:54,830 --> 02:24:56,932
to next year. Uh, and first, I

3873
02:24:56,932 --> 02:24:57,198
want to thank Margo. Margo, I

3874
02:24:57,198 --> 02:24:57,899
hope you

3875
02:24:57,899 --> 02:24:59,635
re watching for

3876
02:24:59,635 --> 02:25:01,436
getting me from my car to the

3877
02:25:01,436 --> 02:25:02,537
stands and all that special

3878
02:25:02,537 --> 02:25:04,305
attention you gave me and my

3879
02:25:04,305 --> 02:25:06,410
wife. I appreciate all that.

3880
02:25:06,410 --> 02:25:06,842
Um, with that mayor, thank you

3881
02:25:06,842 --> 02:25:07,175
very much. Those are my

3882
02:25:07,175 --> 02:25:08,420
comments.

3883
02:25:08,420 --> 02:25:09,244
All right. Thank you,

3884
02:25:09,244 --> 02:25:11,146
Councilmember Willis.

3885
02:25:11,146 --> 02:25:12,647
Thank you. Mayor. Uh, so

3886
02:25:12,647 --> 02:25:13,648
congratulations to the junior

3887
02:25:13,648 --> 02:25:15,517
fire marshals who are

3888
02:25:15,517 --> 02:25:17,352
recognized this evening. Um,

3889
02:25:17,352 --> 02:25:18,186
they, um, seemed so excited.

3890
02:25:18,186 --> 02:25:19,870
And I know they were able to

3891
02:25:19,870 --> 02:25:21,256
learn a lot through the

3892
02:25:21,256 --> 02:25:22,791
program. So congratulations to

3893
02:25:22,791 --> 02:25:23,792
them. Um, and also the life

3894
02:25:23,792 --> 02:25:25,494
skills that they were able to

3895
02:25:25,494 --> 02:25:27,229
learn. I think that has to to

3896
02:25:27,229 --> 02:25:28,764
be noted that you never know

3897
02:25:28,764 --> 02:25:31,660
what could be the impact of

3898
02:25:31,660 --> 02:25:33,670
that. Also, again, to the

3899
02:25:33,670 --> 02:25:34,569
winners of the, uh, Softball

3900
02:25:34,569 --> 02:25:35,604
World Series, a Little League

3901
02:25:35,604 --> 02:25:37,730
Softball World Series, I

3902
02:25:37,730 --> 02:25:38,740
believe the ladies were from

3903
02:25:38,740 --> 02:25:40,776
Clayton. Um, and so just the

3904
02:25:40,776 --> 02:25:42,511
immense sense of pride being in

3905
02:25:42,511 --> 02:25:43,945
Greenville, hosting them, um,

3906
02:25:43,945 --> 02:25:45,514
but also to cheer on the North

3907
02:25:45,514 --> 02:25:47,215
Carolina team was great. Um,

3908
02:25:47,215 --> 02:25:48,716
the games were wonderful and it

3909
02:25:48,716 --> 02:25:50,752
was something for our families

3910
02:25:50,752 --> 02:25:52,354
to enjoy. Uh, over this past

3911
02:25:52,354 --> 02:25:53,822
week. So congratulations to

3912
02:25:53,822 --> 02:25:55,456
them, to the partners and the

3913
02:25:55,456 --> 02:25:56,758
staff who made it happen, like

3914
02:25:56,758 --> 02:25:59,158
Council Member Robinson said,

3915
02:25:59,361 --> 02:26:00,529
it was phenomenal. And just

3916
02:26:00,529 --> 02:26:01,930
know the work that happened

3917
02:26:01,930 --> 02:26:03,765
behind the scenes is

3918
02:26:03,765 --> 02:26:04,899
incredible. So kudos to all

3919
02:26:04,899 --> 02:26:06,935
those who had a part to play in

3920
02:26:06,935 --> 02:26:08,936
it. I also had written down the

3921
02:26:08,936 --> 02:26:09,871
Greenville um, airport or the

3922
02:26:09,871 --> 02:26:10,380
Greenville airport, and they

3923
02:26:10,380 --> 02:26:11,973
re

3924
02:26:11,973 --> 02:26:14,175
flying in. Recently. I thought

3925
02:26:14,175 --> 02:26:14,909
that was, um, really cool to

3926
02:26:14,909 --> 02:26:15,643
see. Uh, we

3927
02:26:15,643 --> 02:26:17,245
re already seeing

3928
02:26:17,245 --> 02:26:18,580
innovative ways to think and to

3929
02:26:18,580 --> 02:26:18,881
showcase our airport, and I

3930
02:26:18,881 --> 02:26:19,648
think that

3931
02:26:19,648 --> 02:26:21,282
s the direction that

3932
02:26:21,282 --> 02:26:23,218
we should be going in. So I

3933
02:26:23,218 --> 02:26:25,860
wanted to make mention of that.

3934
02:26:25,860 --> 02:26:25,386
Also, thank you to the clerk

3935
02:26:25,386 --> 02:26:27,386
s

3936
02:26:27,856 --> 02:26:29,824
office and to Director Gooby

3937
02:26:29,824 --> 02:26:31,293
for hosting Camp Playground

3938
02:26:31,293 --> 02:26:33,280
this summer. They were able to

3939
02:26:33,280 --> 02:26:34,596
come in and learn what their

3940
02:26:34,596 --> 02:26:36,564
city government does for them.

3941
02:26:36,564 --> 02:26:37,799
They are a rec and park summer

3942
02:26:37,799 --> 02:26:39,701
camp, and they were able to

3943
02:26:39,701 --> 02:26:40,902
come in there at the Barnes

3944
02:26:40,902 --> 02:26:43,972
Building and were able to come

3945
02:26:43,972 --> 02:26:45,206
in and learn, um, about how

3946
02:26:45,206 --> 02:26:46,741
their city serves them. And so

3947
02:26:46,741 --> 02:26:49,444
that was an awesome opportunity

3948
02:26:49,444 --> 02:26:52,313
for them. This past summer. Um,

3949
02:26:52,313 --> 02:26:52,514
also, I think. Um, nope, nope.

3950
02:26:52,514 --> 02:26:53,140
That

3951
02:26:53,140 --> 02:26:53,582
s it. That

3952
02:26:53,582 --> 02:26:54,115
s all. Thank

3953
02:26:54,115 --> 02:26:56,115
you mayor.

3954
02:26:56,652 --> 02:26:58,420
Thank you, Councilmember Hardy.

3955
02:26:58,420 --> 02:27:00,722
Uh, just to echo some of the

3956
02:27:00,722 --> 02:27:01,490
comments on the flying day, uh,

3957
02:27:01,490 --> 02:27:02,490
as a board member of the

3958
02:27:02,490 --> 02:27:03,825
airport, we really appreciate

3959
02:27:03,825 --> 02:27:06,161
everything that the staff does

3960
02:27:06,161 --> 02:27:07,429
to, uh, boost our airport and

3961
02:27:07,429 --> 02:27:08,730
put it in a better life for the

3962
02:27:08,730 --> 02:27:10,465
community. And I thought that

3963
02:27:10,465 --> 02:27:12,167
was a really cool, uh, day and

3964
02:27:12,167 --> 02:27:12,934
initiative to let the community

3965
02:27:12,934 --> 02:27:14,603
come in and see what the

3966
02:27:14,603 --> 02:27:15,537
airport is all about. Then I

3967
02:27:15,537 --> 02:27:16,371
just got some other things.

3968
02:27:16,371 --> 02:27:17,873
Some good things happening in

3969
02:27:17,873 --> 02:27:19,410
the district. Three. Uh, our

3970
02:27:19,410 --> 02:27:20,408
students will be coming back

3971
02:27:20,408 --> 02:27:22,243
and they start school on the

3972
02:27:22,243 --> 02:27:23,612
17th. Uh, this is kind of weird

3973
02:27:23,612 --> 02:27:25,313
for me not to be getting ready

3974
02:27:25,313 --> 02:27:25,547
to go out of school, but I

3975
02:27:25,547 --> 02:27:26,614
m

3976
02:27:26,614 --> 02:27:28,784
excited to have all my friends

3977
02:27:28,784 --> 02:27:30,418
back in town. Uh, we are

3978
02:27:30,418 --> 02:27:31,920
continuing to push students to

3979
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:33,322
get parking permits with our

3980
02:27:33,322 --> 02:27:34,956
fine forgiveness and warning

3981
02:27:34,956 --> 02:27:36,958
programs. Uh, we really just

3982
02:27:36,958 --> 02:27:37,726
want to get them, uh, the

3983
02:27:37,726 --> 02:27:37,859
parking passes. They

3984
02:27:37,859 --> 02:27:39,360
re

3985
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:41,363
eligible for us so they can

3986
02:27:41,363 --> 02:27:43,763
park illegally and correctly,

3987
02:27:44,532 --> 02:27:45,867
uh, to, you know, give some

3988
02:27:45,867 --> 02:27:47,369
relief to our permanent

3989
02:27:47,369 --> 02:27:48,971
residents that, uh, can

3990
02:27:48,971 --> 02:27:50,500
sometimes understandably be

3991
02:27:50,500 --> 02:27:52,390
frustrated by the parking

3992
02:27:52,390 --> 02:27:54,420
situation down in that Cerna

3993
02:27:54,420 --> 02:27:55,310
grid neighborhood. Uh, the

3994
02:27:55,310 --> 02:27:57,710
reword with code enforcement

3995
02:27:57,846 --> 02:27:59,547
for efficiency is going to, uh,

3996
02:27:59,547 --> 02:28:01,490
greatly help our efforts to

3997
02:28:01,490 --> 02:28:03,318
tackle the minimal housing

3998
02:28:03,318 --> 02:28:05,620
standards. Uh, in my district,

3999
02:28:05,620 --> 02:28:07,923
as well as the education piece

4000
02:28:07,923 --> 02:28:10,580
that we will be, uh, working

4001
02:28:10,580 --> 02:28:12,226
with ecu landlord and property

4002
02:28:12,226 --> 02:28:13,361
managers, as well as the hoa

4003
02:28:13,361 --> 02:28:14,950
group. Uh, we

4004
02:28:14,950 --> 02:28:16,164
ll be doing some

4005
02:28:16,164 --> 02:28:17,599
sessions at ecu to educate

4006
02:28:17,599 --> 02:28:19,134
students on their rights and

4007
02:28:19,134 --> 02:28:19,367
responsibilities as renters.

4008
02:28:19,367 --> 02:28:20,835
Uh, we

4009
02:28:20,835 --> 02:28:22,137
ve got Woodlawn Street

4010
02:28:22,137 --> 02:28:24,272
Construction that has started

4011
02:28:24,272 --> 02:28:25,507
this past week as well as we

4012
02:28:25,507 --> 02:28:26,875
just approved the contract for

4013
02:28:26,875 --> 02:28:27,208
the Woodland Park. So it

4014
02:28:27,208 --> 02:28:29,208
s good

4015
02:28:30,378 --> 02:28:33,448
to see that, uh, the Cerna grid

4016
02:28:33,448 --> 02:28:35,617
area is getting a nice

4017
02:28:35,617 --> 02:28:37,186
facelift. Slowly but surely.

4018
02:28:37,186 --> 02:28:39,621
Uh, a great more great things

4019
02:28:39,621 --> 02:28:41,890
will continue to come. Uh, and

4020
02:28:41,890 --> 02:28:41,990
then how can I forget about the

4021
02:28:41,990 --> 02:28:43,624
Little League World Series

4022
02:28:43,624 --> 02:28:45,827
happening on Elm Street? Uh,

4023
02:28:45,827 --> 02:28:47,428
that is another great event for

4024
02:28:47,428 --> 02:28:48,563
the district. That is my

4025
02:28:48,563 --> 02:28:49,664
comment. Thank you. Mayor.

4026
02:28:49,664 --> 02:28:50,532
All right. Thank you very much,

4027
02:28:50,532 --> 02:28:51,866
Councilmember Jones.

4028
02:28:51,866 --> 02:28:55,466
And thank you for starting out

4029
02:28:55,770 --> 02:28:57,272
the way, um, mayor. So I do

4030
02:28:57,272 --> 02:28:59,400
want to I also agree with the,

4031
02:28:59,400 --> 02:29:01,760
um, congratulations to the

4032
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:03,770
junior fire marshals, the

4033
02:29:03,770 --> 02:29:05,480
Little League, um, pit area,

4034
02:29:05,480 --> 02:29:07,490
um, pit airport. And I also

4035
02:29:07,490 --> 02:29:08,349
want to say in district one, we

4036
02:29:08,349 --> 02:29:08,850
had the Jackie Robinson League.

4037
02:29:08,850 --> 02:29:10,151
And I want to say

4038
02:29:10,151 --> 02:29:11,653
congratulations to all the

4039
02:29:11,653 --> 02:29:13,154
winners of the Jackie Robinson

4040
02:29:13,154 --> 02:29:16,224
League. Of course, I had to

4041
02:29:16,224 --> 02:29:18,260
shout out the Red Sox, I have

4042
02:29:18,260 --> 02:29:19,294
to, um, and I also want to

4043
02:29:19,294 --> 02:29:21,362
thank the city for helping with

4044
02:29:21,362 --> 02:29:23,732
the pool party that they had on

4045
02:29:23,732 --> 02:29:25,967
yesterday. Um, and also for

4046
02:29:25,967 --> 02:29:27,368
cutting the trees back. So now

4047
02:29:27,368 --> 02:29:29,871
we really do need those

4048
02:29:29,871 --> 02:29:31,740
bleachers because it was hot

4049
02:29:31,740 --> 02:29:32,841
and we need them covered. It

4050
02:29:32,841 --> 02:29:33,942
was really hot. But we do thank

4051
02:29:33,942 --> 02:29:35,543
you for the trees down, cutting

4052
02:29:35,543 --> 02:29:36,612
the trees back. But if we could

4053
02:29:36,612 --> 02:29:37,245
look into those bleachers, I

4054
02:29:37,245 --> 02:29:37,646
appreciate it. Y

4055
02:29:37,646 --> 02:29:39,313
all have a

4056
02:29:39,313 --> 02:29:41,313
great day.

4057
02:29:41,549 --> 02:29:42,918
Thank you. All right. Mayor Pro

4058
02:29:42,918 --> 02:29:44,918
Tem Forman.

4059
02:29:45,286 --> 02:29:45,820
Um, I mirror everyone else

4060
02:29:45,820 --> 02:29:47,820
s

4061
02:29:50,491 --> 02:29:52,827
comments. Um, also, I want to

4062
02:29:52,827 --> 02:29:55,630
highlight again, uh, what was

4063
02:29:55,630 --> 02:29:56,898
said by, uh, Seth as it relates

4064
02:29:56,898 --> 02:29:58,433
to addressing substandard

4065
02:29:58,433 --> 02:30:00,833
housing and really excited

4066
02:30:00,869 --> 02:30:01,836
about the efforts that we are

4067
02:30:01,836 --> 02:30:04,236
being made with code

4068
02:30:04,940 --> 02:30:05,740
enforcement to, um, remedy the

4069
02:30:05,740 --> 02:30:05,940
situations that we

4070
02:30:05,940 --> 02:30:07,940
re

4071
02:30:08,176 --> 02:30:10,576
experiencing in our community.

4072
02:30:11,179 --> 02:30:13,414
Um, as well as what, uh, the

4073
02:30:13,414 --> 02:30:15,417
Jackie Robinson Baseball League

4074
02:30:15,417 --> 02:30:18,253
and, uh, Little League Softball

4075
02:30:18,253 --> 02:30:20,155
World Series. Uh, seeing those

4076
02:30:20,155 --> 02:30:22,524
athletes, uh, the level of

4077
02:30:22,524 --> 02:30:23,558
commitment that they have, um,

4078
02:30:23,558 --> 02:30:24,492
and I don

4079
02:30:24,492 --> 02:30:25,894
t know that everyone

4080
02:30:25,894 --> 02:30:27,562
realizes that they have to go

4081
02:30:27,562 --> 02:30:30,332
through four levels to get

4082
02:30:30,332 --> 02:30:31,867
here. Um, and so the commitment

4083
02:30:31,867 --> 02:30:35,303
from them and their families is

4084
02:30:35,303 --> 02:30:38,303
very impressive. Um, I also

4085
02:30:38,706 --> 02:30:38,940
want to highlight again, um, I

4086
02:30:38,940 --> 02:30:40,442
know we

4087
02:30:40,442 --> 02:30:43,442
re talking a lot about

4088
02:30:43,711 --> 02:30:46,711
curfew downtown. Um, but, uh,

4089
02:30:46,781 --> 02:30:49,150
that is a symptom. Um, when we

4090
02:30:49,150 --> 02:30:51,119
have teen takeovers of the fact

4091
02:30:51,119 --> 02:30:52,987
that we do not have enough for

4092
02:30:52,987 --> 02:30:53,188
our teens to do. And, uh,

4093
02:30:53,188 --> 02:30:54,355
there

4094
02:30:54,355 --> 02:30:55,791
s a lot of things going

4095
02:30:55,791 --> 02:30:57,458
on in our community to help

4096
02:30:57,458 --> 02:30:58,590
remedy that. Uh, there

4097
02:30:58,590 --> 02:30:59,600
s some

4098
02:30:59,600 --> 02:31:01,863
wave. There have been some

4099
02:31:01,863 --> 02:31:03,731
other community, um, events

4100
02:31:03,731 --> 02:31:05,967
that have been put together to

4101
02:31:05,967 --> 02:31:07,168
remedy that. And, um, and would

4102
02:31:07,168 --> 02:31:08,736
like to see us continue to

4103
02:31:08,736 --> 02:31:10,772
support those efforts from

4104
02:31:10,772 --> 02:31:11,873
within the community that are

4105
02:31:11,873 --> 02:31:13,342
offered by people that

4106
02:31:13,342 --> 02:31:15,900
understand the needs and

4107
02:31:15,900 --> 02:31:16,577
interests at a different level

4108
02:31:16,577 --> 02:31:18,977
to make things culturally

4109
02:31:19,247 --> 02:31:20,881
relevant. Um, and then I also

4110
02:31:20,881 --> 02:31:24,481
see Brandon in the back, back

4111
02:31:24,752 --> 02:31:28,550
there. And, uh, I was at the

4112
02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:31,655
airport event, um, with, uh, my

4113
02:31:31,660 --> 02:31:34,496
grandson and, uh, and a cousin.

4114
02:31:34,496 --> 02:31:35,229
Uh, um. That

4115
02:31:35,229 --> 02:31:37,229
s awesome.

4116
02:31:38,132 --> 02:31:41,102
And, um, and we had an

4117
02:31:41,102 --> 02:31:43,137
absolutely awesome time. Um, it

4118
02:31:43,137 --> 02:31:45,172
was nice to see something like

4119
02:31:45,172 --> 02:31:46,474
that with our airport, and it

4120
02:31:46,474 --> 02:31:46,707
was a reflection of the fact

4121
02:31:46,707 --> 02:31:47,875
that we

4122
02:31:47,875 --> 02:31:50,111
re moving in a better

4123
02:31:50,111 --> 02:31:52,313
direction. So, uh, one of the

4124
02:31:52,313 --> 02:31:54,582
highlight that they enjoyed the

4125
02:31:54,582 --> 02:31:56,117
planes, and I think they voted

4126
02:31:56,117 --> 02:31:57,618
on one of the, the yellow

4127
02:31:57,618 --> 02:31:59,787
helicopters, if I remember

4128
02:31:59,787 --> 02:32:02,560
correctly, was their, uh, their

4129
02:32:02,560 --> 02:32:03,792
favorite. Um, that day. And,

4130
02:32:03,792 --> 02:32:06,394
um, and so meeting Stewart and

4131
02:32:06,394 --> 02:32:07,829
his wife and the their jet was

4132
02:32:07,829 --> 02:32:10,498
his, their favorite jet that

4133
02:32:10,498 --> 02:32:13,567
they got to sit in and act like

4134
02:32:13,567 --> 02:32:14,936
they were driving. So, um, want

4135
02:32:14,936 --> 02:32:16,171
to elevate that. That was a

4136
02:32:16,171 --> 02:32:19,171
very good event and looking

4137
02:32:19,574 --> 02:32:19,774
forward to more of that. And

4138
02:32:19,774 --> 02:32:19,908
that

4139
02:32:19,908 --> 02:32:21,908
ll.

4140
02:32:22,543 --> 02:32:22,811
Be all. All right. I would like

4141
02:32:22,811 --> 02:32:23,144
to I don

4142
02:32:23,144 --> 02:32:23,411
t know if we

4143
02:32:23,411 --> 02:32:25,380
ve done

4144
02:32:25,380 --> 02:32:25,514
this yet or not, but, uh, I

4145
02:32:25,514 --> 02:32:27,514
d

4146
02:32:29,283 --> 02:32:31,319
like to publicly congratulate

4147
02:32:31,319 --> 02:32:33,200
Rachel Whitten here, who is now

4148
02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:36,124
the, uh, new PRESIDENT And ceo

4149
02:32:36,124 --> 02:32:37,425
of the cvb. She takes over for

4150
02:32:37,425 --> 02:32:38,927
Andrew Schmidt, who is with the

4151
02:32:38,927 --> 02:32:40,610
cvb. For how many years?

4152
02:32:40,610 --> 02:32:42,610
32.

4153
02:32:42,763 --> 02:32:44,466
32 years. Wow. Big shoes to

4154
02:32:44,466 --> 02:32:46,680
fill. But if anybody can do it,

4155
02:32:46,680 --> 02:32:47,102
you can do it. I know it, and

4156
02:32:47,102 --> 02:32:48,270
we want to say thank you to you

4157
02:32:48,270 --> 02:32:49,136
for all that you did during the

4158
02:32:49,136 --> 02:32:50,538
Little League Softball World

4159
02:32:50,538 --> 02:32:53,574
Series. Also, I saw, uh, Rachel

4160
02:32:53,574 --> 02:32:54,876
out there braving the heat. Um,

4161
02:32:54,876 --> 02:32:56,310
and I can just tell by the end,

4162
02:32:56,310 --> 02:32:57,445
when I was walking away after

4163
02:32:57,445 --> 02:32:58,813
the last game, I could tell

4164
02:32:58,813 --> 02:33:00,582
that Rachel, as well as all of

4165
02:33:00,582 --> 02:33:01,750
our staff members and all the

4166
02:33:01,750 --> 02:33:02,550
volunteers. We

4167
02:33:02,550 --> 02:33:03,251
re glad that it

4168
02:33:03,251 --> 02:33:03,384
happened, but I think we

4169
02:33:03,384 --> 02:33:04,986
re

4170
02:33:04,986 --> 02:33:06,320
glad to see it in two also,

4171
02:33:06,320 --> 02:33:07,455
because we appreciate all that

4172
02:33:07,455 --> 02:33:09,290
you do. Thank you to our city

4173
02:33:09,290 --> 02:33:11,525
staff. Thank you to all the

4174
02:33:11,525 --> 02:33:11,793
volunteers. Thank you to eku,

4175
02:33:11,793 --> 02:33:12,928
uh, who

4176
02:33:12,928 --> 02:33:14,528
s also an integral

4177
02:33:14,528 --> 02:33:15,263
partner in being able to put on

4178
02:33:15,263 --> 02:33:16,397
the Little League Softball

4179
02:33:16,397 --> 02:33:18,399
World Series. They offer up

4180
02:33:18,399 --> 02:33:19,834
their dorms. Um, I know that,

4181
02:33:19,834 --> 02:33:21,602
uh, they clean all the jerseys

4182
02:33:21,602 --> 02:33:23,700
and uniforms of the girls. Uh,

4183
02:33:23,700 --> 02:33:24,380
throughout the week. Uh, and I

4184
02:33:24,380 --> 02:33:25,675
know they provide a whole bunch

4185
02:33:25,675 --> 02:33:26,574
of resources, too. I think as

4186
02:33:26,574 --> 02:33:28,409
far as, like, probably

4187
02:33:28,409 --> 02:33:30,111
transportation, I think. And

4188
02:33:30,111 --> 02:33:31,312
and food, uh, throughout the

4189
02:33:31,312 --> 02:33:33,214
entire week. So thank you to

4190
02:33:33,214 --> 02:33:34,616
them for doing that. And, you

4191
02:33:34,616 --> 02:33:35,483
know, most importantly, thank

4192
02:33:35,483 --> 02:33:37,418
you to Little League

4193
02:33:37,418 --> 02:33:38,553
International for giving us a

4194
02:33:38,553 --> 02:33:40,555
chance. What was it six years

4195
02:33:40,555 --> 02:33:43,910
ago? Six years ago, they made

4196
02:33:43,910 --> 02:33:43,992
the decision to come and host

4197
02:33:43,992 --> 02:33:45,126
the Little League Softball

4198
02:33:45,126 --> 02:33:46,861
World Series in our community.

4199
02:33:46,861 --> 02:33:48,363
They took a chance on us and I

4200
02:33:48,363 --> 02:33:49,831
feel like we did pretty good.

4201
02:33:49,831 --> 02:33:50,970
Um, I think over the last six

4202
02:33:50,970 --> 02:33:51,265
years, we

4203
02:33:51,265 --> 02:33:52,100
ve continued to see

4204
02:33:52,100 --> 02:33:54,202
the Little League Softball

4205
02:33:54,202 --> 02:33:55,770
World Series continue to grow.

4206
02:33:55,770 --> 02:33:57,772
Um, it was pretty awesome to

4207
02:33:57,772 --> 02:33:59,908
see over 3000 fans out there

4208
02:33:59,908 --> 02:34:01,176
for the championship game. The

4209
02:34:01,176 --> 02:34:03,477
city of Greenville was lucky to

4210
02:34:03,477 --> 02:34:05,813
be able to be on, uh, national

4211
02:34:05,813 --> 02:34:07,415
and international tv for over a

4212
02:34:07,415 --> 02:34:08,816
week. We got a tremendous

4213
02:34:08,816 --> 02:34:10,819
amount of publicity off of

4214
02:34:10,819 --> 02:34:12,530
that. And even leading up to

4215
02:34:12,530 --> 02:34:13,880
that, they play all the

4216
02:34:13,880 --> 02:34:14,722
regional games throughout the

4217
02:34:14,722 --> 02:34:16,190
entire country. And one of the

4218
02:34:16,190 --> 02:34:17,892
taglines is The Road to

4219
02:34:17,892 --> 02:34:19,761
Greenville. So we get a

4220
02:34:19,761 --> 02:34:21,262
tremendous amount of publicity

4221
02:34:21,262 --> 02:34:22,196
for hosting the Little League

4222
02:34:22,196 --> 02:34:23,164
Softball World Series. So I

4223
02:34:23,164 --> 02:34:24,498
just want to say thank you so

4224
02:34:24,498 --> 02:34:26,501
much to the Little League

4225
02:34:26,501 --> 02:34:27,669
International for entrusting us

4226
02:34:27,669 --> 02:34:28,736
and giving us the opportunity

4227
02:34:28,736 --> 02:34:30,238
to be able to show that we can

4228
02:34:30,238 --> 02:34:31,739
host it. I feel like we are

4229
02:34:31,739 --> 02:34:32,874
both dedicated partners. The

4230
02:34:32,874 --> 02:34:34,900
city of Greenville, as well as

4231
02:34:34,900 --> 02:34:36,100
Little League International, to

4232
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:37,450
continuing to grow the, uh, the

4233
02:34:37,450 --> 02:34:38,413
softball World Series here in

4234
02:34:38,413 --> 02:34:39,614
our community, making it better

4235
02:34:39,614 --> 02:34:40,749
and ultimately making it a

4236
02:34:40,749 --> 02:34:42,383
better experience for all the

4237
02:34:42,383 --> 02:34:43,251
girls that participate in it. I

4238
02:34:43,251 --> 02:34:45,286
was fortunate enough. I know

4239
02:34:45,286 --> 02:34:47,622
one of the girls, uh, family

4240
02:34:47,622 --> 02:34:49,624
members that, uh, uh, was on

4241
02:34:49,624 --> 02:34:50,792
the Johnson County team, and I

4242
02:34:50,792 --> 02:34:51,826
was able to talk to them

4243
02:34:51,826 --> 02:34:52,193
before. And I said, you have no

4244
02:34:52,193 --> 02:34:53,610
idea what you

4245
02:34:53,610 --> 02:34:54,195
re getting into.

4246
02:34:54,195 --> 02:34:55,960
Like I said, you have no idea

4247
02:34:55,960 --> 02:34:57,496
the experience that your

4248
02:34:57,566 --> 02:34:58,600
daughter is about to to have,

4249
02:34:58,600 --> 02:34:59,701
uh, here in Greenville, North

4250
02:34:59,701 --> 02:35:00,401
Carolina. And I got to see them

4251
02:35:00,401 --> 02:35:01,402
after they won the

4252
02:35:01,402 --> 02:35:02,437
championship. I said, I told

4253
02:35:02,437 --> 02:35:03,771
you it was going to be good,

4254
02:35:03,771 --> 02:35:05,707
and I knew it probably exceeded

4255
02:35:05,707 --> 02:35:06,674
the expectations that they had.

4256
02:35:06,674 --> 02:35:09,210
I mean, they were treated like

4257
02:35:09,210 --> 02:35:10,845
absolute royalty all week long,

4258
02:35:10,845 --> 02:35:12,113
which they they deserve because

4259
02:35:12,113 --> 02:35:13,514
they have worked very, very

4260
02:35:13,514 --> 02:35:14,549
hard. Like Council Member

4261
02:35:14,549 --> 02:35:15,616
Robinson had said, a lot of

4262
02:35:15,616 --> 02:35:18,860
those girls have been playing

4263
02:35:18,860 --> 02:35:20,388
travel ball for 5 to 6 years,

4264
02:35:20,388 --> 02:35:21,255
and they put in a tremendous

4265
02:35:21,255 --> 02:35:21,689
amount of work. They

4266
02:35:21,689 --> 02:35:22,891
re showing

4267
02:35:22,891 --> 02:35:24,292
up on Saturday mornings at

4268
02:35:24,292 --> 02:35:24,426
10:00 in the morning. I don

4269
02:35:24,426 --> 02:35:26,426
t

4270
02:35:26,460 --> 02:35:28,196
know how many 13 year old kids

4271
02:35:28,196 --> 02:35:30,732
are, uh, getting practicing at

4272
02:35:30,732 --> 02:35:31,900
10 A.M. On Saturday morning and

4273
02:35:31,900 --> 02:35:32,934
trying to get the work in to be

4274
02:35:32,934 --> 02:35:35,200
able to get to play at that

4275
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:36,270
level. So congratulations to

4276
02:35:36,270 --> 02:35:36,838
all the girls, not just North

4277
02:35:36,838 --> 02:35:37,710
Carolina. We

4278
02:35:37,710 --> 02:35:37,405
re we

4279
02:35:37,405 --> 02:35:37,572
re we

4280
02:35:37,572 --> 02:35:38,773
re

4281
02:35:38,773 --> 02:35:40,108
thankful that they won, but all

4282
02:35:40,108 --> 02:35:41,476
the girls that came throughout

4283
02:35:41,476 --> 02:35:43,277
the entire country, throughout

4284
02:35:43,277 --> 02:35:44,279
the entire world to come to

4285
02:35:44,279 --> 02:35:45,380
Greenville, North Carolina. And

4286
02:35:45,380 --> 02:35:46,848
thank you to all the citizens

4287
02:35:46,848 --> 02:35:48,160
of Greenville that were so

4288
02:35:48,160 --> 02:35:50,151
welcoming to everybody that

4289
02:35:50,151 --> 02:35:51,720
came and visited us. Every year

4290
02:35:51,720 --> 02:35:53,200
I get to hear really cool and

4291
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:54,421
exciting comments from people

4292
02:35:54,421 --> 02:35:56,657
that visit. I gotta say, I

4293
02:35:56,657 --> 02:35:58,827
think the funniest one was this

4294
02:35:58,827 --> 02:36:00,861
last, uh, this I think it was

4295
02:36:00,861 --> 02:36:03,197
on Sunday or Friday. Uh, we

4296
02:36:03,197 --> 02:36:04,799
were sitting there and one of

4297
02:36:04,799 --> 02:36:06,367
the, uh, the people said, man,

4298
02:36:06,367 --> 02:36:07,268
these concession stands are

4299
02:36:07,268 --> 02:36:07,868
awesome. So I

4300
02:36:07,868 --> 02:36:09,837
ve never heard

4301
02:36:09,837 --> 02:36:10,905
that before. So we must have

4302
02:36:10,905 --> 02:36:14,475
some really good food here in

4303
02:36:14,475 --> 02:36:16,143
Eastern Paradise. So with that,

4304
02:36:16,143 --> 02:36:17,412
I need a motion to adjourn.

4305
02:36:17,412 --> 02:36:18,712
Motion to adjourn. Second.

4306
02:36:18,712 --> 02:36:19,781
All right. Motion been made by

4307
02:36:19,781 --> 02:36:20,548
Councilmember Robinson. Second

4308
02:36:20,548 --> 02:36:21,849
by Councilmember Hardy. All

4309
02:36:21,849 --> 02:36:22,617
those in favor say aye. Aye.

4310
02:36:22,617 --> 02:36:24,617
Opposed. Say nay.

4311
02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:27,419
Motion passes five zero.

4312
03:03:54,801 --> 03:03:56,436
We are adjourned.

4313
03:03:56,436 --> 03:03:56,570
All right. Good evening.

4314
03:03:56,570 --> 03:03:57,837
I

4315
03:03:57,837 --> 03:04:01,107
d like to welcome everyone to

4316
03:04:01,107 --> 03:04:02,175
the AUGUST 13th, 2026 meeting

4317
03:04:02,175 --> 03:04:02,308
of the Greenville City Council.

4318
03:04:02,308 --> 03:04:03,209
I

4319
03:04:03,209 --> 03:04:03,876
m mayor P.J. Connelly for

4320
03:04:03,876 --> 03:04:04,770
presiding over tonight

4321
03:04:04,770 --> 03:04:04,577
s

4322
03:04:04,577 --> 03:04:04,877
meeting. First, I

4323
03:04:04,877 --> 03:04:06,450
d like to

4324
03:04:06,450 --> 03:04:07,180
call on Mayor Pro Tem Forman

4325
03:04:07,180 --> 03:04:08,314
for the invocation, followed by

4326
03:04:08,314 --> 03:04:10,714
the Pledge of Allegiance.

4327
03:04:10,984 --> 03:04:14,584
Thank you. Mayor. Um, I was

4328
03:04:14,620 --> 03:04:18,220
reminded this week of my wife.

4329
03:04:18,558 --> 03:04:18,724
And oftentimes that, uh, we

4330
03:04:18,724 --> 03:04:20,724
don

4331
03:04:21,594 --> 03:04:24,330
t remember what the reason

4332
03:04:24,330 --> 03:04:26,132
is that we do this work. And so

4333
03:04:26,132 --> 03:04:28,268
I was led to share with us

4334
03:04:28,268 --> 03:04:30,668
tonight, uh, first Corinthians

4335
03:04:31,837 --> 03:04:35,308
13. And it goes as if I speak

4336
03:04:35,308 --> 03:04:38,378
in tongues of men or of angels,

4337
03:04:38,378 --> 03:04:39,179
but do not have love. I

4338
03:04:39,179 --> 03:04:41,179
m only

4339
03:04:42,682 --> 03:04:45,682
a resounding gong or cymbal

4340
03:04:46,619 --> 03:04:49,522
clanging. If I have the gifts

4341
03:04:49,522 --> 03:04:51,825
of prophecy and can fathom all

4342
03:04:51,825 --> 03:04:53,859
mysteries and all knowledge.

4343
03:04:53,859 --> 03:04:55,694
And if I have faith and can

4344
03:04:55,694 --> 03:04:58,865
move mountains, but do not have

4345
03:04:58,865 --> 03:05:01,601
love, I am nothing. If I give

4346
03:05:01,601 --> 03:05:04,170
all I possess to the poor, and

4347
03:05:04,170 --> 03:05:06,672
give over my body to hardship,

4348
03:05:06,672 --> 03:05:07,941
that I MAY boast only, but do

4349
03:05:07,941 --> 03:05:08,942
not have love, I

4350
03:05:08,942 --> 03:05:10,942
ve gained

4351
03:05:11,577 --> 03:05:14,577
nothing. Love is patient. Love

4352
03:05:15,782 --> 03:05:17,984
is kind. Love does not envy. It

4353
03:05:17,984 --> 03:05:20,486
does not boast. It is not

4354
03:05:20,486 --> 03:05:23,486
proud. It does not dishonor

4355
03:05:23,756 --> 03:05:26,660
others. It is not self-seeking.

4356
03:05:26,660 --> 03:05:29,229
It is not easily angered. It

4357
03:05:29,229 --> 03:05:31,263
keeps no record of wrongs. Love

4358
03:05:31,263 --> 03:05:34,863
does not delight in evil, but

4359
03:05:36,302 --> 03:05:39,302
rejoices in truth. It always

4360
03:05:39,438 --> 03:05:41,374
protects, always trust, always

4361
03:05:41,374 --> 03:05:43,576
hopes. And it always

4362
03:05:43,576 --> 03:05:45,444
perseveres. And my favorite

4363
03:05:45,444 --> 03:05:48,581
part of this is verse eight

4364
03:05:48,581 --> 03:05:49,315
that says, love never fails.

4365
03:05:49,315 --> 03:05:51,117
Amen.

4366
03:05:51,117 --> 03:05:54,654
Please stand for the Pledge of

4367
03:05:54,654 --> 03:05:56,654
Allegiance.

4368
03:05:57,890 --> 03:05:59,392
And allegiance to the flag of

4369
03:05:59,392 --> 03:06:01,661
the United States of America,

4370
03:06:01,661 --> 03:06:04,163
and to the Republic for which

4371
03:06:04,163 --> 03:06:07,990
it stands. One nation under

4372
03:06:07,990 --> 03:06:09,499
GOD, indivisible, with liberty

4373
03:06:12,638 --> 03:06:13,606
and justice for all.

4374
03:06:13,606 --> 03:06:14,474
MADAM Clerk, will you please

4375
03:06:14,474 --> 03:06:16,474
call the roll?

4376
03:06:16,542 --> 03:06:18,344
Yes, sir. Mayor Connolly here.

4377
03:06:18,344 --> 03:06:19,713
Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Here.

4378
03:06:19,713 --> 03:06:21,347
Council member Jones. Here.

4379
03:06:21,347 --> 03:06:22,649
Council member. Hardy. Here.

4380
03:06:22,649 --> 03:06:23,549
Um, Councilmember Sculley has

4381
03:06:23,549 --> 03:06:24,584
let us know he will not be

4382
03:06:24,584 --> 03:06:25,918
attending this evening. Council

4383
03:06:25,918 --> 03:06:27,530
member Robinson here. Council

4384
03:06:27,530 --> 03:06:27,787
member Willis here. All right.

4385
03:06:27,787 --> 03:06:28,387
Mayor Connolly of.

4386
03:06:28,387 --> 03:06:28,655
Thank you very much. We

4387
03:06:28,655 --> 03:06:29,756
ll now

4388
03:06:29,756 --> 03:06:29,989
move on to approval of

4389
03:06:29,989 --> 03:06:30,589
tonight

4390
03:06:30,589 --> 03:06:31,491
s agenda. MISTER

4391
03:06:31,491 --> 03:06:31,757
Manager, any recommended

4392
03:06:31,757 --> 03:06:32,458
changes?

4393
03:06:32,458 --> 03:06:33,426
I have no changes.

4394
03:06:33,426 --> 03:06:33,927
All right. Do I have a motion

4395
03:06:33,927 --> 03:06:35,940
to approve?

4396
03:06:35,940 --> 03:06:35,928
Motion to approve. Second.

4397
03:06:35,928 --> 03:06:37,197
All right. Motion has been made

4398
03:06:37,197 --> 03:06:38,630
by Councilmember Jones and by

4399
03:06:38,630 --> 03:06:38,998
Councilmember Robinson. All

4400
03:06:38,998 --> 03:06:40,399
those in favor say aye. Aye,

4401
03:06:40,399 --> 03:06:41,668
aye. Opposed. Say nay.

4402
03:06:41,668 --> 03:06:44,680
Motion passes five zero.

4403
03:06:45,438 --> 03:06:48,438
Move on to special recognitions.

4404
03:06:52,445 --> 03:06:54,313
I

4405
03:06:54,313 --> 03:06:58,513
d like to ask Glen Wooten to

4406
03:07:02,689 --> 03:07:04,689
come forward. Family.

4407
03:07:09,161 --> 03:07:11,161
Sorry.

4408
03:07:13,198 --> 03:07:16,268
So it is my honor to recognize

4409
03:07:16,268 --> 03:07:18,237
Glen Wooten for his retirement

4410
03:07:18,237 --> 03:07:18,904
from the city of Greenville.

4411
03:07:18,904 --> 03:07:20,139
And I

4412
03:07:20,139 --> 03:07:23,750
d just like to take a few

4413
03:07:23,750 --> 03:07:24,777
minutes to read some comments

4414
03:07:24,777 --> 03:07:27,547
that came directly from some of

4415
03:07:27,547 --> 03:07:30,547
your coworkers. Just about you.

4416
03:07:30,616 --> 03:07:32,418
All right, Glen, you, uh, you

4417
03:07:32,418 --> 03:07:35,488
began your work with the city

4418
03:07:35,488 --> 03:07:36,522
right out of high school, and,

4419
03:07:36,522 --> 03:07:37,923
uh, started when the Public

4420
03:07:37,923 --> 03:07:39,425
Works Department spent several

4421
03:07:39,425 --> 03:07:40,626
years there and then

4422
03:07:40,626 --> 03:07:42,929
transitioned over to the

4423
03:07:42,929 --> 03:07:44,330
Recreation and Parks Department

4424
03:07:44,330 --> 03:07:46,832
over the course of your career.

4425
03:07:46,832 --> 03:07:50,303
Glen, you a valuable member of

4426
03:07:50,303 --> 03:07:52,605
the team and built a reputation

4427
03:07:52,605 --> 03:07:54,540
for doing things the right way.

4428
03:07:54,540 --> 03:07:56,476
Now, they say, if you know

4429
03:07:56,476 --> 03:07:58,978
Glen, you know that his truck

4430
03:07:58,978 --> 03:08:01,814
and his tools retrieve like

4431
03:08:01,814 --> 03:08:04,814
Fort Knox and everything was

4432
03:08:04,951 --> 03:08:07,351
always locked up, organized,

4433
03:08:07,520 --> 03:08:10,122
and exactly where it belonged.

4434
03:08:10,122 --> 03:08:12,291
Glen is an incredibly skilled

4435
03:08:12,291 --> 03:08:13,993
welder and craftsman, and

4436
03:08:13,993 --> 03:08:16,862
someone who takes pride in his

4437
03:08:16,862 --> 03:08:18,498
work as a building facilities

4438
03:08:18,498 --> 03:08:18,931
technician and the department

4439
03:08:18,931 --> 03:08:20,931
s

4440
03:08:21,534 --> 03:08:22,969
chief playground inspector. He

4441
03:08:22,969 --> 03:08:25,238
made sure the facilities were

4442
03:08:25,238 --> 03:08:27,730
safe, clean and ready for the

4443
03:08:27,730 --> 03:08:28,407
use by the public. Glen also

4444
03:08:28,407 --> 03:08:30,309
spent his time mentoring

4445
03:08:30,309 --> 03:08:32,309
younger employees throughout

4446
03:08:32,645 --> 03:08:34,581
his career, passing on his eye

4447
03:08:34,581 --> 03:08:36,315
for detail and workplace

4448
03:08:36,315 --> 03:08:38,517
knowledge. The attention to

4449
03:08:38,517 --> 03:08:40,190
detail and willingness to teach

4450
03:08:40,190 --> 03:08:40,286
others are some of Glen

4451
03:08:40,286 --> 03:08:42,121
s

4452
03:08:42,121 --> 03:08:44,521
greatest qualities as an

4453
03:08:44,557 --> 03:08:45,925
employee. And Glen, we, uh, we

4454
03:08:45,925 --> 03:08:48,428
were fortunate enough to spend

4455
03:08:48,428 --> 03:08:50,496
some time together a couple of

4456
03:08:50,496 --> 03:08:52,732
weeks ago, and I told you at

4457
03:08:52,732 --> 03:08:54,634
that point in time that that I

4458
03:08:54,634 --> 03:08:56,970
felt that there was no greater,

4459
03:08:56,970 --> 03:08:58,637
you know, gift in your life

4460
03:08:58,637 --> 03:09:00,773
than to serve others. And

4461
03:09:00,773 --> 03:09:02,942
clearly, that number of years

4462
03:09:02,942 --> 03:09:04,910
you have gone above and beyond

4463
03:09:04,910 --> 03:09:05,945
to serve this community and

4464
03:09:05,945 --> 03:09:06,212
touched the lives of people

4465
03:09:06,212 --> 03:09:08,800
that you

4466
03:09:08,800 --> 03:09:09,615
ll never know. But

4467
03:09:09,615 --> 03:09:10,916
now, after reading all the

4468
03:09:10,916 --> 03:09:12,840
great things that your your

4469
03:09:12,840 --> 03:09:12,485
department had to say about

4470
03:09:12,485 --> 03:09:13,953
you, I

4471
03:09:13,953 --> 03:09:14,153
d say also with that,

4472
03:09:14,153 --> 03:09:15,722
there

4473
03:09:15,722 --> 03:09:17,560
s no greater honor than

4474
03:09:17,560 --> 03:09:19,258
to have individuals that you

4475
03:09:19,258 --> 03:09:21,327
have worked around for years

4476
03:09:21,327 --> 03:09:22,528
talk so great about what type

4477
03:09:22,528 --> 03:09:23,763
of person you are, not just

4478
03:09:23,763 --> 03:09:25,864
worker, but what kind of person

4479
03:09:25,864 --> 03:09:26,999
you are. So on behalf of the

4480
03:09:26,999 --> 03:09:27,233
City Council and the city

4481
03:09:27,233 --> 03:09:28,267
manager

4482
03:09:28,267 --> 03:09:30,267
s office and

4483
03:09:30,302 --> 03:09:32,302
recreation, parks,

4484
03:09:32,405 --> 03:09:33,405
congratulations and GOD bless

4485
03:09:33,405 --> 03:09:33,573
you. Thank you for everything

4486
03:09:33,573 --> 03:09:34,240
you

4487
03:09:34,240 --> 03:09:37,840
ve done for the City of

4488
03:09:44,851 --> 03:09:45,885
Greenville. Try to get this

4489
03:09:45,885 --> 03:09:46,919
right without dropping it and

4490
03:09:46,919 --> 03:09:47,530
breaking it, okay? Because it

4491
03:09:47,530 --> 03:09:48,620
s

4492
03:09:48,620 --> 03:09:51,570
got the mayor in my name and my

4493
03:09:51,570 --> 03:09:54,127
name on it says in recognition

4494
03:09:54,127 --> 03:09:56,962
of 29 years and eight months of

4495
03:09:56,962 --> 03:09:58,831
outstanding service, we extend

4496
03:09:58,831 --> 03:10:00,232
our sincere appreciation to

4497
03:10:00,232 --> 03:10:01,400
Ronald Glen Wooten.

4498
03:10:01,400 --> 03:10:03,400
Congratulations.

4499
03:10:14,180 --> 03:10:15,648
Thank you.

4500
03:10:15,648 --> 03:10:17,483
All right.

4501
03:10:17,483 --> 03:10:19,185
Now, if I could ask the members

4502
03:10:19,185 --> 03:10:20,586
of the impact generates

4503
03:10:20,586 --> 03:10:21,687
influence basketball team, both

4504
03:10:21,687 --> 03:10:22,755
the 12 you and the high school

4505
03:10:22,755 --> 03:10:25,755
team to come forward. Any

4506
03:10:50,950 --> 03:10:52,951
members that we MAY have.

4507
03:10:52,951 --> 03:10:54,951
Congratulations, guys. Bring

4508
03:10:55,220 --> 03:10:56,210
your.

4509
03:10:56,210 --> 03:10:57,790
Oh.

4510
03:10:57,790 --> 03:11:00,590
Hell yeah. There. You got it.

4511
03:11:00,590 --> 03:11:00,993
I said earlier, I was I if I

4512
03:11:00,993 --> 03:11:01,794
just had a little bit more

4513
03:11:01,794 --> 03:11:03,620
time, I would have set that

4514
03:11:03,620 --> 03:11:04,630
basketball gold up on the first

4515
03:11:04,630 --> 03:11:06,980
floor. So we could have had the

4516
03:11:06,980 --> 03:11:08,498
game before the meeting

4517
03:11:08,967 --> 03:11:12,305
started. It is also, uh, my

4518
03:11:12,305 --> 03:11:12,505
honor to recognize the igi. And

4519
03:11:12,505 --> 03:11:13,505
that

4520
03:11:13,505 --> 03:11:15,740
s what I will say. The the

4521
03:11:15,740 --> 03:11:17,740
impact generates influence

4522
03:11:17,242 --> 03:11:19,642
basketball team. Both the 12

4523
03:11:19,746 --> 03:11:22,814
team and the high school team.

4524
03:11:22,814 --> 03:11:24,283
They are local aew program with

4525
03:11:24,283 --> 03:11:26,819
both a 12 year team again and a

4526
03:11:26,819 --> 03:11:28,854
high school team all year long.

4527
03:11:28,854 --> 03:11:30,622
Teams go head to head with

4528
03:11:30,622 --> 03:11:32,758
tough competition and always

4529
03:11:32,758 --> 03:11:34,260
bringing their best. They have

4530
03:11:34,260 --> 03:11:36,195
some awesome wins lately. Let

4531
03:11:36,195 --> 03:11:39,698
me tell you about those. The 12

4532
03:11:39,698 --> 03:11:41,734
u team took home the 2025

4533
03:11:41,734 --> 03:11:43,469
National Championship, and the

4534
03:11:43,469 --> 03:11:45,505
high school team grabbed second

4535
03:11:45,505 --> 03:11:48,174
place at nationals this year.

4536
03:11:48,174 --> 03:11:50,109
But iga is about more than just

4537
03:11:50,109 --> 03:11:51,710
basketball. They really focus

4538
03:11:51,710 --> 03:11:54,113
on teaching their players to

4539
03:11:54,113 --> 03:11:56,448
work hard, make good choices

4540
03:11:56,448 --> 03:11:57,817
and stay true to themselves.

4541
03:11:57,817 --> 03:11:59,986
The lessons learned on the

4542
03:11:59,986 --> 03:12:01,587
court help shape what these

4543
03:12:01,587 --> 03:12:03,322
athletes are and prepare them

4544
03:12:03,322 --> 03:12:04,757
for whatever comes next in

4545
03:12:04,757 --> 03:12:05,157
life. And now, what I

4546
03:12:05,157 --> 03:12:07,590
d like to

4547
03:12:07,590 --> 03:12:08,694
do is it might not be everyone

4548
03:12:08,694 --> 03:12:11,797
here, but I would like to to

4549
03:12:11,797 --> 03:12:12,365
recognize those with you where

4550
03:12:12,365 --> 03:12:14,365
the certificates.

4551
03:12:15,934 --> 03:12:16,680
Right here. So.

4552
03:12:16,680 --> 03:12:16,435
I

4553
03:12:16,435 --> 03:12:18,103
m going to.

4554
03:12:18,103 --> 03:12:18,404
Let.

4555
03:12:18,404 --> 03:12:19,539
So I

4556
03:12:19,539 --> 03:12:22,675
m going to start with the

4557
03:12:22,675 --> 03:12:24,777
12 u team. And council member

4558
03:12:24,777 --> 03:12:26,745
Tonya Foreman would like to

4559
03:12:26,745 --> 03:12:28,130
present you with a certificate.

4560
03:12:28,130 --> 03:12:29,215
Well, let me see if I can get

4561
03:12:29,215 --> 03:12:32,815
this going right here. So we

4562
03:12:34,987 --> 03:12:37,387
have, uh, Cruz Arrington.

4563
03:12:39,292 --> 03:12:41,292
Domini Byram.

4564
03:12:42,528 --> 03:12:44,528
Congratulations.

4565
03:12:46,131 --> 03:12:47,599
Amari Smith.

4566
03:12:47,599 --> 03:12:49,599
Congratulation.

4567
03:12:57,677 --> 03:13:00,770
Jj Jones. Kamari. Farmer.

4568
03:13:03,482 --> 03:13:05,882
Carter. Smith. Jordan. Smith.

4569
03:13:08,121 --> 03:13:10,521
Zion. Cherry. Kaden. Taft.

4570
03:13:11,357 --> 03:13:13,757
Troy. Harris and Jeremiah

4571
03:13:18,297 --> 03:13:18,598
Williams. What a great honor.

4572
03:13:18,598 --> 03:13:20,598
Guys, let

4573
03:13:29,342 --> 03:13:32,942
s give them a. Now we

4574
03:13:36,883 --> 03:13:39,418
have the high school kids.

4575
03:13:39,418 --> 03:13:39,585
Okay.

4576
03:13:39,585 --> 03:13:41,585
Let

4577
03:13:43,789 --> 03:13:47,389
s try to double team this.

4578
03:13:52,398 --> 03:13:54,798
We have Brenden Porter.

4579
03:13:56,669 --> 03:13:58,669
Christian Eisler.

4580
03:14:01,600 --> 03:14:03,600
Not here.

4581
03:14:10,150 --> 03:14:13,150
Uh, Jackson Foster. Jalen Rasco.

4582
03:14:19,392 --> 03:14:21,792
Keyon Beal. Keyshawn farmer.

4583
03:14:28,734 --> 03:14:31,134
Landon. Ashley. Loyalty. Fuller.

4584
03:14:40,279 --> 03:14:42,679
Enrique. Beal. Bonham. Ty.

4585
03:14:46,151 --> 03:14:46,818
Daniels. And where

4586
03:14:46,818 --> 03:14:47,190
s coach at?

4587
03:14:47,190 --> 03:14:47,953
Where

4588
03:14:47,953 --> 03:14:49,221
s Antoine.

4589
03:14:49,221 --> 03:14:51,221
At?

4590
03:14:53,992 --> 03:14:57,592
Come on up, dude. And, uh,

4591
03:15:08,707 --> 03:15:10,509
Coach Smith. Tony.

4592
03:15:10,509 --> 03:15:12,110
Amari.

4593
03:15:12,110 --> 03:15:12,311
And Kamari. I

4594
03:15:12,311 --> 03:15:14,311
d like to

4595
03:15:18,950 --> 03:15:19,252
recognize Kamara as well. So

4596
03:15:19,252 --> 03:15:20,353
now I

4597
03:15:20,353 --> 03:15:23,353
ll turn it over to

4598
03:15:23,455 --> 03:15:25,455
council members.

4599
03:15:25,625 --> 03:15:27,693
I just want to make sure that

4600
03:15:27,693 --> 03:15:30,930
these teams are acknowledged

4601
03:15:30,329 --> 03:15:32,631
for their hard work, their

4602
03:15:32,631 --> 03:15:33,866
commitment and excellence, as

4603
03:15:33,866 --> 03:15:35,200
well as the coaches and the

4604
03:15:35,200 --> 03:15:37,570
families that have supported

4605
03:15:37,570 --> 03:15:39,380
them to accomplish these goals.

4606
03:15:39,380 --> 03:15:40,706
These are great accomplishments

4607
03:15:40,706 --> 03:15:40,840
that they work very hard for.

4608
03:15:40,840 --> 03:15:42,840
I

4609
03:15:43,675 --> 03:15:45,444
m proud of you guys.

4610
03:15:45,444 --> 03:15:46,546
Also, I want to echo that too.

4611
03:15:46,546 --> 03:15:46,745
Congratulations, guys. It

4612
03:15:46,745 --> 03:15:47,647
s

4613
03:15:47,647 --> 03:15:49,115
awesome to be able to see you

4614
03:15:49,115 --> 03:15:50,115
guys competing at such a high

4615
03:15:50,115 --> 03:15:52,115
level, representing our

4616
03:15:52,351 --> 03:15:53,552
community, going out there and

4617
03:15:53,552 --> 03:15:55,354
showing good sportsmanship.

4618
03:15:55,354 --> 03:15:57,156
Thank you to the coaches. Uh,

4619
03:15:57,156 --> 03:15:58,791
the coaches, uh, are they pour

4620
03:15:58,791 --> 03:16:00,192
a lot of their time and effort

4621
03:16:00,192 --> 03:16:01,270
into making sure that they

4622
03:16:01,270 --> 03:16:01,159
teach you the game, but they

4623
03:16:01,159 --> 03:16:02,294
re

4624
03:16:02,294 --> 03:16:02,661
also teaching you other things,

4625
03:16:02,661 --> 03:16:03,195
too, that you

4626
03:16:03,195 --> 03:16:04,630
re going to take

4627
03:16:04,630 --> 03:16:05,831
the rest of your life. So thank

4628
03:16:05,831 --> 03:16:06,265
you for doing that and stepping

4629
03:16:06,265 --> 03:16:06,865
up. It

4630
03:16:06,865 --> 03:16:07,299
s not easy. It

4631
03:16:07,299 --> 03:16:08,501
s a huge

4632
03:16:08,501 --> 03:16:08,667
time commitment. I know that.

4633
03:16:08,667 --> 03:16:08,968
It

4634
03:16:08,968 --> 03:16:09,702
s, uh, it

4635
03:16:09,702 --> 03:16:11,570
s tough sometimes

4636
03:16:11,570 --> 03:16:11,804
you have to take off work. Uh,

4637
03:16:11,804 --> 03:16:12,737
but it

4638
03:16:12,737 --> 03:16:13,739
s good. And I think

4639
03:16:13,739 --> 03:16:14,239
these guys will appreciate

4640
03:16:14,239 --> 03:16:14,673
everything that you

4641
03:16:14,673 --> 03:16:16,420
ve done

4642
03:16:16,420 --> 03:16:16,174
over this season. And they

4643
03:16:16,174 --> 03:16:17,176
re

4644
03:16:17,176 --> 03:16:19,478
going to continue to look back

4645
03:16:19,478 --> 03:16:21,314
at you as a good role model for

4646
03:16:21,314 --> 03:16:24,914
making them better in life as

4647
03:16:33,993 --> 03:16:37,593
they get older. So thank you.

4648
03:16:59,218 --> 03:17:01,218
Okay. All right.

4649
03:17:07,526 --> 03:17:08,270
For. All right.

4650
03:17:08,270 --> 03:17:10,270
Now i

4651
03:17:10,280 --> 03:17:11,830
d like to invite the 252

4652
03:17:11,830 --> 03:17:15,430
ladies warms up here. Come on

4653
03:17:44,597 --> 03:17:47,597
ladies. All right. These young

4654
03:18:00,780 --> 03:18:02,582
ladies are swarming the stage.

4655
03:18:02,582 --> 03:18:04,683
All right. Again, it is my

4656
03:18:04,683 --> 03:18:06,451
honor to recognize the two,

4657
03:18:06,451 --> 03:18:10,510
five, two ladies swarm. This is

4658
03:18:10,122 --> 03:18:11,824
a local, uh, a local aew team

4659
03:18:11,824 --> 03:18:13,793
that has achieved remarkable

4660
03:18:13,793 --> 03:18:16,193
success in their inaugural

4661
03:18:16,628 --> 03:18:18,630
inaugural year of competition.

4662
03:18:18,630 --> 03:18:19,999
The team is made up of players

4663
03:18:19,999 --> 03:18:21,567
from Pitt County, many of whom

4664
03:18:21,567 --> 03:18:22,701
have previously played together

4665
03:18:22,701 --> 03:18:24,403
in all star leagues and

4666
03:18:24,403 --> 03:18:26,803
tournaments, with a regular

4667
03:18:26,806 --> 03:18:27,907
season record of 16 and five,

4668
03:18:27,907 --> 03:18:29,874
they earned the opportunity to

4669
03:18:29,874 --> 03:18:31,743
compete at Nationals in

4670
03:18:31,743 --> 03:18:33,946
Virginia Beach. They came

4671
03:18:33,946 --> 03:18:36,248
second to a more seasonal and

4672
03:18:36,248 --> 03:18:38,170
experienced team, just shy of

4673
03:18:38,170 --> 03:18:39,318
the championship by one point,

4674
03:18:39,318 --> 03:18:40,886
which is basically basically

4675
03:18:40,886 --> 03:18:42,788
winning. Their outstanding

4676
03:18:42,788 --> 03:18:44,723
performance is a tournament to

4677
03:18:44,723 --> 03:18:46,959
their strong work ethic,

4678
03:18:46,959 --> 03:18:48,660
determination and discipline.

4679
03:18:48,660 --> 03:18:50,610
Now, I would also like to

4680
03:18:50,610 --> 03:18:52,131
recognize each of you young

4681
03:18:52,131 --> 03:18:54,433
ladies and present you with a

4682
03:18:54,433 --> 03:18:55,501
certificate. We have scholar

4683
03:18:55,501 --> 03:18:57,501
Zachary.

4684
03:18:57,636 --> 03:18:59,636
All.

4685
03:19:08,480 --> 03:19:10,880
London Pierce. Eva. Kate

4686
03:19:15,721 --> 03:19:17,721
Stilton. Chelsea. Wilkes.

4687
03:19:28,633 --> 03:19:31,330
Brielle. Little. Zoe. Watts.

4688
03:19:43,949 --> 03:19:46,949
Jory. Morgan. Shayna. Heath. I

4689
03:19:48,120 --> 03:19:51,120
love this name. Carmen. Cordon.

4690
03:19:51,991 --> 03:19:53,459
Oh.

4691
03:19:53,459 --> 03:19:55,227
I have to get. I have to get my

4692
03:19:55,227 --> 03:19:58,827
spell checker. Get on my spell.

4693
03:19:59,564 --> 03:20:01,564
Checker. Uh.

4694
03:20:15,781 --> 03:20:15,948
Uh, Levy. Mia. Perry. And we.

4695
03:20:15,948 --> 03:20:16,882
Let

4696
03:20:16,882 --> 03:20:17,182
s all give them another

4697
03:20:17,182 --> 03:20:19,182
round of.

4698
03:20:26,591 --> 03:20:27,426
Applause.

4699
03:20:27,426 --> 03:20:29,894
Anything else? What are you.

4700
03:20:29,894 --> 03:20:31,894
Did?

4701
03:20:45,310 --> 03:20:47,346
Yeah. Fumbling. So I want to

4702
03:20:47,346 --> 03:20:48,947
reiterate the congratulations

4703
03:20:48,947 --> 03:20:50,683
that I have for these young

4704
03:20:50,683 --> 03:20:52,184
ladies. I have seen them play.

4705
03:20:52,184 --> 03:20:54,686
And these are some real

4706
03:20:54,686 --> 03:20:56,655
ballers. You all. Um, also, I

4707
03:20:56,655 --> 03:20:58,657
want to elevate Mia Perry

4708
03:20:58,657 --> 03:21:00,859
because I understand that she

4709
03:21:00,859 --> 03:21:03,629
was the highest scorer as well

4710
03:21:03,629 --> 03:21:06,965
as, um, had the most rebounds.

4711
03:21:06,965 --> 03:21:07,265
Is that correct? Huh? She

4712
03:21:07,265 --> 03:21:09,265
s

4713
03:21:10,836 --> 03:21:11,200
acting shy. Alrighty. Okay, so

4714
03:21:11,200 --> 03:21:12,360
we

4715
03:21:12,360 --> 03:21:13,839
re gonna elevate her for

4716
03:21:13,839 --> 03:21:15,173
that and, um, and congratulate

4717
03:21:15,173 --> 03:21:16,442
the coaches also, thank you

4718
03:21:16,442 --> 03:21:20,420
guys for everything you do in

4719
03:21:22,347 --> 03:21:24,283
our community.

4720
03:21:24,283 --> 03:21:24,749
Congratulations, ladies. Again.

4721
03:21:24,749 --> 03:21:26,185
Um, I

4722
03:21:26,185 --> 03:21:27,353
m not going to say that I

4723
03:21:27,353 --> 03:21:28,387
who it was, but I talked to one

4724
03:21:28,387 --> 03:21:29,154
of the ladies up here, and I

4725
03:21:29,154 --> 03:21:31,223
asked them if they could take

4726
03:21:31,223 --> 03:21:33,458
the guys, and they gave me a.

4727
03:21:33,458 --> 03:21:34,660
Yeah. So, hey, I

4728
03:21:34,660 --> 03:21:36,461
m just saying.

4729
03:21:36,461 --> 03:21:37,295
So if something. Hey, if

4730
03:21:37,295 --> 03:21:38,296
something takes place in the

4731
03:21:38,296 --> 03:21:40,666
parking lot down there, I get

4732
03:21:40,666 --> 03:21:40,932
it, okay. Hey. Congratulations,

4733
03:21:40,932 --> 03:21:41,566
lady. We

4734
03:21:41,566 --> 03:21:42,000
re really proud of

4735
03:21:42,000 --> 03:21:42,935
you. I think it

4736
03:21:42,935 --> 03:21:44,503
s awesome the

4737
03:21:44,503 --> 03:21:46,137
accomplishment that you, uh,

4738
03:21:46,137 --> 03:21:47,572
you were able to to accomplish

4739
03:21:47,572 --> 03:21:47,873
with, uh, coming in second

4740
03:21:47,873 --> 03:21:49,274
place. That

4741
03:21:49,274 --> 03:21:50,208
s awesome. Hey, the

4742
03:21:50,208 --> 03:21:50,542
one thing I always tell my

4743
03:21:50,542 --> 03:21:51,577
girls. I

4744
03:21:51,577 --> 03:21:52,911
m a coach. I coach

4745
03:21:52,911 --> 03:21:55,113
softball. One thing I always

4746
03:21:55,113 --> 03:21:57,490
tell them is, is when you lose,

4747
03:21:57,490 --> 03:21:58,483
make sure you take that the

4748
03:21:58,483 --> 03:21:59,752
next game that you play and

4749
03:21:59,752 --> 03:22:00,953
make you work even harder. So

4750
03:22:00,953 --> 03:22:01,186
that that next time you

4751
03:22:01,186 --> 03:22:01,954
re the

4752
03:22:01,954 --> 03:22:02,254
one celebrating, you

4753
03:22:02,254 --> 03:22:03,555
re not the

4754
03:22:03,555 --> 03:22:04,590
one with your heads down,

4755
03:22:04,590 --> 03:22:04,789
crying and upset that you

4756
03:22:04,789 --> 03:22:05,957
didn

4757
03:22:05,957 --> 03:22:07,259
t win. Make sure that you

4758
03:22:07,259 --> 03:22:08,694
always work as hard as you

4759
03:22:08,694 --> 03:22:09,895
possibly can, because it will

4760
03:22:09,895 --> 03:22:11,963
translate from what you do on

4761
03:22:11,963 --> 03:22:13,165
the basketball court into life.

4762
03:22:13,165 --> 03:22:13,899
And make sure that you work as

4763
03:22:13,899 --> 03:22:14,700
hard as you possibly can,

4764
03:22:14,700 --> 03:22:15,434
because anything that you want

4765
03:22:15,434 --> 03:22:16,501
to do in life, you can

4766
03:22:16,501 --> 03:22:18,901
accomplish and never forget

4767
03:22:26,811 --> 03:22:28,811
that. Congratulations.

4768
03:22:46,231 --> 03:22:47,320
I sounds great.

4769
03:22:47,320 --> 03:22:48,434
You know, I

4770
03:22:48,434 --> 03:22:48,633
m used to it.

4771
03:22:48,633 --> 03:22:50,633
That

4772
03:22:50,903 --> 03:22:51,503
s all that. Hey.

4773
03:22:51,503 --> 03:22:52,404
It happens, man.

4774
03:22:52,404 --> 03:22:53,839
You got.

4775
03:22:53,839 --> 03:22:56,410
I try to give a hand.

4776
03:22:56,410 --> 03:22:56,508
To shrug it off. I

4777
03:22:56,508 --> 03:22:58,508
ll sit right

4778
03:22:59,578 --> 03:23:00,440
here. All right?

4779
03:23:00,440 --> 03:23:01,546
I won

4780
03:23:01,546 --> 03:23:03,582
t be the last time.

4781
03:23:03,582 --> 03:23:04,383
I hear the Lady Swarm team is

4782
03:23:04,383 --> 03:23:04,649
they got a team. I

4783
03:23:04,649 --> 03:23:04,850
ve heard

4784
03:23:04,850 --> 03:23:05,450
there

4785
03:23:05,450 --> 03:23:05,817
s some ballers. That

4786
03:23:05,817 --> 03:23:07,552
s a

4787
03:23:07,552 --> 03:23:09,321
really good place, I really do.

4788
03:23:09,321 --> 03:23:10,222
I got the inside track.

4789
03:23:10,222 --> 03:23:12,622
You would be surprised.

4790
03:23:12,958 --> 03:23:13,358
I probably about 30, huh? So

4791
03:23:13,358 --> 03:23:15,930
first, here

4792
03:23:15,930 --> 03:23:16,194
s, you know. Can

4793
03:23:16,194 --> 03:23:16,895
you imagine? So I

4794
03:23:16,895 --> 03:23:17,129
d love to see

4795
03:23:17,129 --> 03:23:17,930
it. I

4796
03:23:17,930 --> 03:23:18,496
d love to see it.

4797
03:23:18,496 --> 03:23:19,898
And they

4798
03:23:19,898 --> 03:23:22,298
re at various schools

4799
03:23:22,634 --> 03:23:23,100
around the city. So..

4800
03:23:23,100 --> 03:23:24,303
Yeah.

4801
03:23:24,303 --> 03:23:25,203
Can you play basketball?

4802
03:23:25,203 --> 03:23:25,870
I was a point guard.

4803
03:23:25,870 --> 03:23:27,273
Oh. Are you.

4804
03:23:27,273 --> 03:23:29,475
Where are you? Good shooter.

4805
03:23:29,475 --> 03:23:31,310
I was yeah, I was.

4806
03:23:31,310 --> 03:23:31,677
I could imagine.

4807
03:23:31,677 --> 03:23:32,811
You know.

4808
03:23:32,811 --> 03:23:34,790
Did you break some ankles?

4809
03:23:34,790 --> 03:23:35,481
I was a Dennis Rodman a

4810
03:23:35,481 --> 03:23:36,314
rebound. Oh, I was pretty good.

4811
03:23:36,314 --> 03:23:36,448
No good. Hi.

4812
03:23:36,448 --> 03:23:36,615
I

4813
03:23:36,615 --> 03:23:37,349
m. I

4814
03:23:37,349 --> 03:23:37,482
m pretty good.

4815
03:23:37,482 --> 03:23:38,216
I

4816
03:23:38,216 --> 03:23:38,350
m gonna have to.

4817
03:23:38,350 --> 03:23:39,117
I

4818
03:23:39,117 --> 03:23:39,518
m gonna have to look up some

4819
03:23:39,518 --> 03:23:41,518
of that.

4820
03:23:46,424 --> 03:23:48,126
Footage. All right.

4821
03:23:48,126 --> 03:23:48,259
Okay, good. All right, we

4822
03:23:48,259 --> 03:23:49,161
ll

4823
03:23:49,161 --> 03:23:50,228
move on to the public comment.

4824
03:23:50,228 --> 03:23:51,960
Period of time periods. Period.

4825
03:23:51,960 --> 03:23:52,300
Reserve for comments to public

4826
03:23:52,300 --> 03:23:52,898
items that were scheduled to be

4827
03:23:52,898 --> 03:23:53,632
a subject of a hearing.

4828
03:23:53,632 --> 03:23:54,366
Conducted this meeting or

4829
03:23:54,366 --> 03:23:55,867
another meeting in the same

4830
03:23:55,867 --> 03:23:56,635
week shall not be discussed. A

4831
03:23:56,635 --> 03:23:57,635
total of 30 minutes is

4832
03:23:57,635 --> 03:23:58,336
allocated, with each individual

4833
03:23:58,336 --> 03:23:59,738
being allowed no more than

4834
03:23:59,738 --> 03:24:01,873
three minutes. Individuals who

4835
03:24:01,873 --> 03:24:02,741
register will speak or register

4836
03:24:02,741 --> 03:24:04,409
with the City Clerk will speak

4837
03:24:04,409 --> 03:24:05,143
in the order registered until

4838
03:24:05,143 --> 03:24:06,445
the allotted 30 minutes

4839
03:24:06,445 --> 03:24:07,279
expires. If time remains after

4840
03:24:07,279 --> 03:24:08,380
all persons have registered

4841
03:24:08,380 --> 03:24:09,180
have spoken, individuals did

4842
03:24:09,180 --> 03:24:10,148
not register will have an

4843
03:24:10,148 --> 03:24:11,283
opportunity to until the lot of

4844
03:24:11,283 --> 03:24:12,951
30 minutes expires. MADAM

4845
03:24:12,951 --> 03:24:14,620
Clerk, our first speaker.

4846
03:24:14,620 --> 03:24:15,954
Yes, sir. First speaker is MISS

4847
03:24:15,954 --> 03:24:16,822
Gwen Green. You have three

4848
03:24:16,822 --> 03:24:18,156
minutes to address the mayor

4849
03:24:18,156 --> 03:24:21,156
and council at that podium

4850
03:24:23,610 --> 03:24:23,262
right there.

4851
03:24:23,262 --> 03:24:25,262
Today

4852
03:24:32,437 --> 03:24:34,437
s date.

4853
03:24:35,340 --> 03:24:37,843
Mayor Conley, Mayor Pro Tem

4854
03:24:37,843 --> 03:24:39,678
Forman, city council members,

4855
03:24:39,678 --> 03:24:42,800
city staff and members of the

4856
03:24:42,800 --> 03:24:42,981
community. Good evening.

4857
03:24:42,981 --> 03:24:43,115
Good evening.

4858
03:24:43,115 --> 03:24:45,115
I

4859
03:24:45,116 --> 03:24:45,584
m Gwen Green. I

4860
03:24:45,584 --> 03:24:47,584
m a

4861
03:24:48,220 --> 03:24:49,488
Greenville resident. And I

4862
03:24:49,488 --> 03:24:51,122
think of myself as being a

4863
03:24:51,122 --> 03:24:53,522
vested and involved community

4864
03:24:53,725 --> 03:24:55,327
member. I serve in

4865
03:24:55,327 --> 03:24:57,362
organizations like Delta Sigma

4866
03:24:57,362 --> 03:24:59,464
Theta sorority. I serve on many

4867
03:24:59,464 --> 03:25:00,899
community committees. The

4868
03:25:00,899 --> 03:25:02,134
National Council of Negro Women

4869
03:25:02,134 --> 03:25:03,835
where I serve on the Budget and

4870
03:25:03,835 --> 03:25:04,135
Finance Committee. I

4871
03:25:04,135 --> 03:25:05,938
m a

4872
03:25:05,938 --> 03:25:08,874
regular volunteer at my church,

4873
03:25:08,874 --> 03:25:10,808
Koinonia Christian Center. I

4874
03:25:10,808 --> 03:25:11,810
also volunteered with the West

4875
03:25:11,810 --> 03:25:13,211
Greenville Health Council,

4876
03:25:13,211 --> 03:25:15,313
where I co-wrote the proposal

4877
03:25:15,313 --> 03:25:17,149
that brought face masks, hand

4878
03:25:17,149 --> 03:25:18,617
sanitizer and other supplies to

4879
03:25:18,617 --> 03:25:20,617
nonprofits, community

4880
03:25:20,618 --> 03:25:22,860
organizations, and churches,

4881
03:25:22,860 --> 03:25:23,455
along with now volunteering

4882
03:25:23,455 --> 03:25:23,688
with Pastor Rodney Coles of the

4883
03:25:23,688 --> 03:25:25,156
church

4884
03:25:25,156 --> 03:25:25,757
s outreach network to

4885
03:25:25,757 --> 03:25:26,591
establish children

4886
03:25:26,591 --> 03:25:28,493
s book clubs

4887
03:25:28,493 --> 03:25:28,727
and afterschool programs, we

4888
03:25:28,727 --> 03:25:30,328
re

4889
03:25:30,328 --> 03:25:33,310
hoping to disrupt the school to

4890
03:25:33,310 --> 03:25:36,310
prison pipeline. And before I

4891
03:25:36,201 --> 03:25:37,368
moved here some 12 years ago, I

4892
03:25:37,368 --> 03:25:39,104
volunteered with a number of

4893
03:25:39,104 --> 03:25:40,639
other volunteer organizations,

4894
03:25:40,639 --> 03:25:42,639
including a community

4895
03:25:43,108 --> 03:25:45,508
development board and a

4896
03:25:46,278 --> 03:25:48,678
redevelopment board. In total

4897
03:25:49,147 --> 03:25:50,215
transparency. I also serve as a

4898
03:25:50,215 --> 03:25:52,615
commissioner on the Housing

4899
03:25:52,784 --> 03:25:55,621
Authority of Greenville and in

4900
03:25:55,621 --> 03:25:58,123
fact serve as its chair

4901
03:25:58,123 --> 03:25:59,257
tonight. However, in the time I

4902
03:25:59,257 --> 03:26:00,291
have left, I

4903
03:26:00,291 --> 03:26:02,460
d like to allay

4904
03:26:02,460 --> 03:26:06,660
the fears of some of the city

4905
03:26:08,600 --> 03:26:10,600
councilors. The Housing

4906
03:26:11,469 --> 03:26:13,738
Authority staff truly are

4907
03:26:13,738 --> 03:26:16,174
working every day to provide

4908
03:26:16,174 --> 03:26:19,174
safe, decent housing for our

4909
03:26:20,145 --> 03:26:22,130
residents. I will concede to

4910
03:26:22,130 --> 03:26:23,810
you that they

4911
03:26:23,810 --> 03:26:25,810
re working under

4912
03:26:25,517 --> 03:26:27,517
some very difficult

4913
03:26:28,420 --> 03:26:30,589
circumstances. Most of our

4914
03:26:30,589 --> 03:26:32,557
facilities are some 4050 years

4915
03:26:32,557 --> 03:26:36,757
old. It gets real hard to fix

4916
03:26:37,620 --> 03:26:39,598
those up and clean them up to

4917
03:26:39,598 --> 03:26:43,198
the standard that we would all

4918
03:26:44,269 --> 03:26:44,602
like to live in. However. I

4919
03:26:44,602 --> 03:26:45,704
d

4920
03:26:45,704 --> 03:26:47,472
like to address a couple of

4921
03:26:47,472 --> 03:26:50,472
other issues that were raised

4922
03:26:50,642 --> 03:26:54,242
in your work session, one of

4923
03:26:54,312 --> 03:26:56,848
which was the inspire report.

4924
03:26:56,848 --> 03:27:00,448
As it was presented. It truly

4925
03:27:01,386 --> 03:27:02,521
was pretty alarming. However, I

4926
03:27:02,521 --> 03:27:04,789
want you to know the Housing

4927
03:27:04,789 --> 03:27:06,592
Authority staff was responsive

4928
03:27:06,592 --> 03:27:10,192
to all the issues that were

4929
03:27:10,495 --> 03:27:12,664
outlined in the inspire reports.

4930
03:27:12,664 --> 03:27:15,640
Life threatening issues as

4931
03:27:15,934 --> 03:27:18,934
defined by hud include smoke

4932
03:27:19,204 --> 03:27:21,204
detectors, gfci replacements,

4933
03:27:21,773 --> 03:27:24,208
rust on electrical panels, all

4934
03:27:24,208 --> 03:27:27,746
of which have to be repaired or

4935
03:27:27,746 --> 03:27:29,547
replaced within 24 hours. While

4936
03:27:29,547 --> 03:27:31,483
non-threatening issues must be

4937
03:27:31,483 --> 03:27:31,682
corrected within 30 days.

4938
03:27:31,682 --> 03:27:32,785
That

4939
03:27:32,785 --> 03:27:34,119
s time.

4940
03:27:34,119 --> 03:27:36,119
You keep going.

4941
03:27:37,155 --> 03:27:38,890
So the reports for 2024 were

4942
03:27:38,890 --> 03:27:40,391
corrected within 24 hours for

4943
03:27:40,391 --> 03:27:43,940
things like smoke detectors and

4944
03:27:43,940 --> 03:27:44,663
gfci units, including a water

4945
03:27:44,663 --> 03:27:46,732
heater flute that had a

4946
03:27:46,732 --> 03:27:47,999
downward slope. They were they

4947
03:27:47,999 --> 03:27:48,499
were corrected. I

4948
03:27:48,499 --> 03:27:50,499
ve got the

4949
03:27:50,768 --> 03:27:52,704
details here for you. And a box

4950
03:27:52,704 --> 03:27:54,472
back there in case someone here

4951
03:27:54,472 --> 03:27:58,720
would like to see the paperwork

4952
03:28:00,612 --> 03:28:02,714
itself. As to the finances,

4953
03:28:02,714 --> 03:28:05,114
financial reports are provided,

4954
03:28:05,116 --> 03:28:07,419
presented and accepted at every

4955
03:28:07,419 --> 03:28:09,220
meeting. Reports on rent

4956
03:28:09,220 --> 03:28:11,456
collection and defaults are

4957
03:28:11,456 --> 03:28:12,957
discussed because that too is a

4958
03:28:12,957 --> 03:28:14,593
key responsibility of the

4959
03:28:14,593 --> 03:28:16,761
Housing authority to collect

4960
03:28:16,761 --> 03:28:19,664
the rents and by federal

4961
03:28:19,664 --> 03:28:21,833
mandate and outside audit is

4962
03:28:21,833 --> 03:28:23,334
conducted annually by a

4963
03:28:23,334 --> 03:28:24,903
reputable financial

4964
03:28:24,903 --> 03:28:26,872
organization that is actually

4965
03:28:26,872 --> 03:28:28,673
switched out every three years

4966
03:28:28,673 --> 03:28:31,343
to ensure that we are going to

4967
03:28:31,343 --> 03:28:31,743
get fair representation of the

4968
03:28:31,743 --> 03:28:32,577
work that we

4969
03:28:32,577 --> 03:28:34,379
re doing. The

4970
03:28:34,379 --> 03:28:36,982
latest audit was conducted by

4971
03:28:36,982 --> 03:28:39,982
Rector, Lofton and Reeder for

4972
03:28:40,686 --> 03:28:40,852
the fiscal year 2025, and I

4973
03:28:40,852 --> 03:28:42,530
ll

4974
03:28:42,530 --> 03:28:43,989
read very quickly their

4975
03:28:43,989 --> 03:28:45,230
opinion. In our opinion, the

4976
03:28:45,230 --> 03:28:46,224
accompanying financial

4977
03:28:46,224 --> 03:28:48,590
statements referred to above

4978
03:28:48,590 --> 03:28:49,861
present fairly in all material

4979
03:28:49,861 --> 03:28:50,995
respects, the respective

4980
03:28:50,995 --> 03:28:52,331
financial position of the

4981
03:28:52,331 --> 03:28:53,432
business type activities of the

4982
03:28:53,432 --> 03:28:55,300
Housing Authority of the City

4983
03:28:55,300 --> 03:28:58,136
of Greenville. As of SEPTEMBER

4984
03:28:58,136 --> 03:28:59,604
30th, 2025, and the respective

4985
03:28:59,604 --> 03:29:01,720
changes in financial position

4986
03:29:01,720 --> 03:29:02,674
and where applicable, cash

4987
03:29:02,674 --> 03:29:04,109
flows thereof for the year then

4988
03:29:04,109 --> 03:29:05,710
ended in accordance with

4989
03:29:05,710 --> 03:29:07,345
accounting principles generally

4990
03:29:07,345 --> 03:29:10,140
accepted in the United States

4991
03:29:10,140 --> 03:29:11,215
of America as to a work order

4992
03:29:11,215 --> 03:29:12,918
process, none of us are

4993
03:29:12,918 --> 03:29:14,686
satisfied with the existing

4994
03:29:14,686 --> 03:29:16,687
process. The. The board

4995
03:29:16,687 --> 03:29:18,923
receives a work order report

4996
03:29:18,923 --> 03:29:20,625
every month it gets discussed.

4997
03:29:20,625 --> 03:29:22,600
If not every meeting, then

4998
03:29:22,600 --> 03:29:24,620
every other meeting. The need

4999
03:29:24,620 --> 03:29:27,662
for a better system is, without

5000
03:29:27,665 --> 03:29:28,867
question, needed. However, the

5001
03:29:28,867 --> 03:29:31,267
Housing Authority is going

5002
03:29:31,269 --> 03:29:33,669
through a total software

5003
03:29:34,472 --> 03:29:36,872
transition. The transition is

5004
03:29:37,876 --> 03:29:39,877
being phased in so that we want

5005
03:29:39,877 --> 03:29:41,179
to make sure that things like

5006
03:29:41,179 --> 03:29:43,515
grant funding is being

5007
03:29:43,515 --> 03:29:45,915
accounted for properly, that

5008
03:29:46,118 --> 03:29:47,619
our, um, accounts receivables

5009
03:29:47,619 --> 03:29:47,819
and account payables, that it

5010
03:29:47,819 --> 03:29:49,819
s

5011
03:29:51,189 --> 03:29:52,657
working. And so if you will,

5012
03:29:52,657 --> 03:29:55,600
the deadline for all of this

5013
03:29:55,600 --> 03:29:58,600
phased phasing in will be

5014
03:29:58,563 --> 03:29:59,931
completed by DECEMBER of 2026.

5015
03:29:59,931 --> 03:30:00,980
But you got to give us time.

5016
03:30:00,980 --> 03:30:01,266
We

5017
03:30:01,266 --> 03:30:03,340
re not satisfied with the

5018
03:30:03,340 --> 03:30:04,335
processes it currently is. We

5019
03:30:04,335 --> 03:30:06,370
want tenants. We want our

5020
03:30:06,370 --> 03:30:08,706
residents to be able to know

5021
03:30:08,706 --> 03:30:10,575
that their work order has been

5022
03:30:10,575 --> 03:30:10,709
accepted. Finally, as I know

5023
03:30:10,709 --> 03:30:12,709
I

5024
03:30:13,144 --> 03:30:13,378
m running out of time, I

5025
03:30:13,378 --> 03:30:14,846
ve

5026
03:30:14,846 --> 03:30:18,820
reached out to our Mayor Pro

5027
03:30:18,820 --> 03:30:19,718
Tem at our last board meeting,

5028
03:30:19,718 --> 03:30:20,985
I stated that we needed to get

5029
03:30:20,985 --> 03:30:23,121
into a better relationship with

5030
03:30:23,121 --> 03:30:25,390
the city, that it would not be

5031
03:30:25,390 --> 03:30:27,192
possible to easily build brand

5032
03:30:27,192 --> 03:30:28,860
new structures, brand new homes

5033
03:30:28,860 --> 03:30:31,620
without support from the city.

5034
03:30:31,620 --> 03:30:32,497
Members of City Council. I

5035
03:30:32,497 --> 03:30:35,166
stand here this evening telling

5036
03:30:35,166 --> 03:30:37,502
you I suffer with housing

5037
03:30:37,502 --> 03:30:40,138
authority envy. I envy the

5038
03:30:40,138 --> 03:30:42,400
Denver, the Durham Housing

5039
03:30:42,400 --> 03:30:42,239
Authority because right now

5040
03:30:42,239 --> 03:30:43,575
they

5041
03:30:43,575 --> 03:30:45,443
ve got three developments

5042
03:30:45,443 --> 03:30:47,790
in process various stages of

5043
03:30:47,790 --> 03:30:49,460
development, one of which

5044
03:30:49,460 --> 03:30:50,682
includes the Hey Ty village,

5045
03:30:50,682 --> 03:30:51,682
which some of you MAY remember

5046
03:30:51,682 --> 03:30:52,383
and recall. That

5047
03:30:52,383 --> 03:30:52,717
s Durham

5048
03:30:52,717 --> 03:30:54,717
s

5049
03:30:58,423 --> 03:30:58,856
black market. Black Wall

5050
03:30:58,856 --> 03:31:00,856
Street, i

5051
03:31:01,392 --> 03:31:03,294
m sorry. There are

5052
03:31:03,294 --> 03:31:04,863
many phrases that come to mind

5053
03:31:04,863 --> 03:31:07,263
to describe the current

5054
03:31:08,132 --> 03:31:10,135
situation. I think a failure to

5055
03:31:10,135 --> 03:31:12,871
communicate at this point in

5056
03:31:12,871 --> 03:31:14,339
time probably says it best. And

5057
03:31:14,339 --> 03:31:15,373
so it is that I ask that a

5058
03:31:15,373 --> 03:31:17,475
meeting be held with the

5059
03:31:17,475 --> 03:31:18,876
Housing Authority to better

5060
03:31:18,876 --> 03:31:20,979
understand not only what is

5061
03:31:20,979 --> 03:31:22,147
being done, but what has been

5062
03:31:22,147 --> 03:31:22,647
accomplished and what we

5063
03:31:22,647 --> 03:31:24,647
d like

5064
03:31:24,682 --> 03:31:25,850
to see going forward. Though

5065
03:31:25,850 --> 03:31:27,520
there have been some quarterly

5066
03:31:27,520 --> 03:31:28,286
managers meeting with city

5067
03:31:28,286 --> 03:31:31,156
staff, clearly there needs to

5068
03:31:31,156 --> 03:31:32,224
be more so that respectful and

5069
03:31:32,224 --> 03:31:33,725
respected lines of

5070
03:31:33,725 --> 03:31:35,426
communication can be

5071
03:31:35,426 --> 03:31:37,129
established. I thank you all

5072
03:31:37,129 --> 03:31:37,429
for listening. Thank you.

5073
03:31:37,429 --> 03:31:39,429
Thank you.

5074
03:31:39,830 --> 03:31:41,830
MR. Green.

5075
03:31:41,933 --> 03:31:43,933
Thank you.

5076
03:31:44,350 --> 03:31:45,270
MADAM Clerk, our next speaker.

5077
03:31:45,270 --> 03:31:46,710
We do not have any additional

5078
03:31:46,710 --> 03:31:46,938
registered speakers.

5079
03:31:46,938 --> 03:31:47,839
Anyone else would like speak

5080
03:31:47,839 --> 03:31:48,573
during the public period.

5081
03:31:48,573 --> 03:31:50,242
Please come forward. State your

5082
03:31:50,242 --> 03:31:53,842
name. For the record, you have

5083
03:32:02,387 --> 03:32:02,720
three minutes. All right. See

5084
03:32:02,720 --> 03:32:03,521
you now. We

5085
03:32:03,521 --> 03:32:03,821
ll close the public

5086
03:32:03,821 --> 03:32:05,821
hearing. We

5087
03:32:06,791 --> 03:32:09,261
ll move on to our

5088
03:32:09,261 --> 03:32:09,827
appointments. MADAM Clerk.

5089
03:32:09,827 --> 03:32:11,629
Okay?

5090
03:32:11,629 --> 03:32:13,310
Yes, sir. First appointment

5091
03:32:13,310 --> 03:32:14,650
that we have is to the Invest

5092
03:32:14,650 --> 03:32:15,466
Greenville Board. That

5093
03:32:15,466 --> 03:32:16,868
s, um, a

5094
03:32:16,868 --> 03:32:18,269
nomination made by you, Mayor

5095
03:32:18,269 --> 03:32:20,269
Connolly.

5096
03:32:21,472 --> 03:32:22,707
I would like to reappoint, uh,

5097
03:32:22,707 --> 03:32:23,308
MR. Robert Cherry.

5098
03:32:23,308 --> 03:32:23,874
Okay. They

5099
03:32:23,874 --> 03:32:24,775
ll need some help.

5100
03:32:24,775 --> 03:32:25,243
Make a motion.

5101
03:32:25,243 --> 03:32:26,611
Motion to.

5102
03:32:26,611 --> 03:32:28,790
Appoint Robert Cherry second.

5103
03:32:28,790 --> 03:32:29,213
All right. Motion by MAY. By

5104
03:32:29,213 --> 03:32:30,949
Councilmember Robinson. Second

5105
03:32:30,949 --> 03:32:31,683
by Councilmember Jones. All

5106
03:32:31,683 --> 03:32:32,216
those in favor say aye.

5107
03:32:32,216 --> 03:32:33,840
Aye, aye.

5108
03:32:33,840 --> 03:32:34,519
Those opposed? Nay.

5109
03:32:34,519 --> 03:32:36,287
Motion passes five zero.

5110
03:32:36,287 --> 03:32:38,287
Congratulations, MR. Cherry.

5111
03:32:42,293 --> 03:32:43,194
Okay. And that concludes

5112
03:32:43,194 --> 03:32:43,861
appointments from West

5113
03:32:43,861 --> 03:32:45,663
Greenville.

5114
03:32:45,663 --> 03:32:46,731
All right.

5115
03:32:46,731 --> 03:32:48,165
Can you roll right on the.

5116
03:32:48,165 --> 03:32:49,367
Number five. Okay.

5117
03:32:49,367 --> 03:32:50,801
Um, boards and commissions,

5118
03:32:50,801 --> 03:32:53,201
board of adjustment. Um,

5119
03:32:53,238 --> 03:32:55,238
Councilmember Jones.

5120
03:32:56,274 --> 03:32:59,874
I would like to, um, nominate

5121
03:33:00,745 --> 03:33:02,614
the Lewis.

5122
03:33:02,614 --> 03:33:03,415
All right. Is there a second?

5123
03:33:03,415 --> 03:33:03,748
Second? All right. Motion

5124
03:33:03,748 --> 03:33:04,549
s

5125
03:33:04,549 --> 03:33:05,550
been made by Councilmember

5126
03:33:05,550 --> 03:33:06,518
Jones. Thank you, Councilmember

5127
03:33:06,518 --> 03:33:06,685
Hardy. All those in favor say

5128
03:33:06,685 --> 03:33:07,351
aye.

5129
03:33:07,351 --> 03:33:08,352
Aye, aye.

5130
03:33:08,352 --> 03:33:10,155
Those opposed. Nay, nay.

5131
03:33:10,155 --> 03:33:11,589
Motion passes five zero.

5132
03:33:11,589 --> 03:33:12,256
Congratulations. And the Geo.

5133
03:33:12,256 --> 03:33:12,757
Jones.

5134
03:33:12,757 --> 03:33:13,570
Um.

5135
03:33:13,570 --> 03:33:15,570
Hello.

5136
03:33:15,593 --> 03:33:16,728
Lewis. Lewis.

5137
03:33:16,728 --> 03:33:18,950
Yeah. That

5138
03:33:18,950 --> 03:33:19,497
s Thursday.

5139
03:33:19,497 --> 03:33:20,966
Uh, next we have the

5140
03:33:20,966 --> 03:33:22,966
Environmental Advisory

5141
03:33:23,868 --> 03:33:25,303
Commission. Um, that that, uh,

5142
03:33:25,303 --> 03:33:26,504
appointment is assigned to

5143
03:33:26,504 --> 03:33:28,106
Councilmember Skelly, so we

5144
03:33:28,106 --> 03:33:29,241
will check with him next month.

5145
03:33:29,241 --> 03:33:30,508
Um, next we have the Historic

5146
03:33:30,508 --> 03:33:31,642
Preservation Commission.

5147
03:33:31,642 --> 03:33:31,943
Council member Hardy.

5148
03:33:31,943 --> 03:33:32,611
Uh, let

5149
03:33:32,611 --> 03:33:33,144
s continue that,

5150
03:33:33,144 --> 03:33:35,144
please.

5151
03:33:35,880 --> 03:33:37,820
Okay. Um, we do have the

5152
03:33:37,820 --> 03:33:38,183
Housing Authority appointment,

5153
03:33:38,183 --> 03:33:39,651
however, that is for the

5154
03:33:39,651 --> 03:33:40,752
resident Commissioner seat, and

5155
03:33:40,752 --> 03:33:42,220
we are still waiting on a

5156
03:33:42,220 --> 03:33:43,221
nomination from the residents

5157
03:33:43,221 --> 03:33:43,854
Council, so I don

5158
03:33:43,854 --> 03:33:45,456
t have one to

5159
03:33:45,456 --> 03:33:46,891
give to you tonight. Um,

5160
03:33:46,891 --> 03:33:47,992
multimodal Transportation

5161
03:33:47,992 --> 03:33:48,627
Commission. Council member

5162
03:33:48,627 --> 03:33:48,759
Jones.

5163
03:33:48,759 --> 03:33:50,428
I

5164
03:33:50,428 --> 03:33:53,998
ll let you continue that one.

5165
03:33:53,998 --> 03:33:55,300
Okay. Um, also, multimodal

5166
03:33:55,300 --> 03:33:56,567
Transportation Commission Mayor

5167
03:33:56,567 --> 03:33:57,602
Pro Tem Forman.

5168
03:33:57,602 --> 03:33:59,838
I would like to nominate

5169
03:33:59,838 --> 03:34:00,605
Jonathan Metellus.

5170
03:34:00,605 --> 03:34:01,172
Second.

5171
03:34:01,172 --> 03:34:02,600
All right. Motion

5172
03:34:02,600 --> 03:34:04,600
s been made

5173
03:34:04,376 --> 03:34:05,443
by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Second

5174
03:34:05,443 --> 03:34:06,377
by Councilmember Robinson. All

5175
03:34:06,377 --> 03:34:07,912
those in favor say aye. Aye,

5176
03:34:07,912 --> 03:34:09,914
aye. Those opposed say nay.

5177
03:34:09,914 --> 03:34:11,716
Motion passes five zero.

5178
03:34:11,716 --> 03:34:12,750
Congratulations, MR. Metellus.

5179
03:34:12,750 --> 03:34:14,750
Okay.

5180
03:34:14,986 --> 03:34:16,120
Um. Next. Well, no. So

5181
03:34:16,120 --> 03:34:17,288
multimodal. Transportation

5182
03:34:17,288 --> 03:34:17,822
Commission Council member.

5183
03:34:17,822 --> 03:34:18,823
Hardy.

5184
03:34:18,823 --> 03:34:19,230
I like to continue that as

5185
03:34:19,230 --> 03:34:21,230
well.

5186
03:34:21,793 --> 03:34:22,894
Okay. Um, next we have the

5187
03:34:22,894 --> 03:34:23,995
Greenville Convention and

5188
03:34:23,995 --> 03:34:25,329
Visitors Authority.

5189
03:34:25,329 --> 03:34:25,630
Councilmember Robinson.

5190
03:34:25,630 --> 03:34:26,631
Um.

5191
03:34:26,631 --> 03:34:27,632
Intend to meet with Rachel

5192
03:34:27,632 --> 03:34:29,133
Whitten before I make that

5193
03:34:29,133 --> 03:34:30,201
decision. And she just got in,

5194
03:34:30,201 --> 03:34:30,334
so I want to do that. So I

5195
03:34:30,334 --> 03:34:31,269
d

5196
03:34:31,269 --> 03:34:33,438
ask that be tabled.

5197
03:34:33,438 --> 03:34:34,439
Okay. Yes, sir. Um, next we

5198
03:34:34,439 --> 03:34:35,873
have the planning and Zoning

5199
03:34:35,873 --> 03:34:36,540
Commission. Mayor Pro Tem

5200
03:34:36,540 --> 03:34:36,674
Forman.

5201
03:34:36,674 --> 03:34:38,674
i

5202
03:34:40,145 --> 03:34:42,313
ll continue that one. Okay.

5203
03:34:42,313 --> 03:34:43,414
Um, police community relations

5204
03:34:43,414 --> 03:34:44,448
committee, Councilmember

5205
03:34:44,448 --> 03:34:45,616
Robinson.

5206
03:34:45,616 --> 03:34:48,160
Uh, continue that, please.

5207
03:34:48,586 --> 03:34:49,854
Okay. Yes, sir. Recreation and

5208
03:34:49,854 --> 03:34:50,255
parks. Also, Councilmember

5209
03:34:50,255 --> 03:34:52,157
Robinson.

5210
03:34:52,157 --> 03:34:53,900
I would nominate Brian Fields.

5211
03:34:53,900 --> 03:34:55,900
Okay.

5212
03:34:56,394 --> 03:34:57,628
All right. Is there a second? I

5213
03:34:57,628 --> 03:34:59,597
think I heard of this. I think

5214
03:34:59,597 --> 03:35:01,320
I heard a split second there.

5215
03:35:01,320 --> 03:35:01,999
Um, motion has been made by

5216
03:35:01,999 --> 03:35:03,100
Councilmember Robinson, second

5217
03:35:03,100 --> 03:35:03,735
by Councilmember Jones. All

5218
03:35:03,735 --> 03:35:04,302
those in favor say aye.

5219
03:35:04,302 --> 03:35:05,336
Aye, aye.

5220
03:35:05,336 --> 03:35:07,138
Opposed? Say nay.

5221
03:35:07,138 --> 03:35:08,473
Motion passes five zero.

5222
03:35:08,473 --> 03:35:09,340
Congratulations, MR. Fields.

5223
03:35:09,340 --> 03:35:10,775
All right, Mayor Conley, that

5224
03:35:10,775 --> 03:35:12,443
concludes appointments.

5225
03:35:12,443 --> 03:35:13,944
Thank you very much. We will

5226
03:35:13,944 --> 03:35:14,946
now move on to new business,

5227
03:35:14,946 --> 03:35:15,780
which are the public hearings.

5228
03:35:15,780 --> 03:35:16,647
This is the policy of public

5229
03:35:16,647 --> 03:35:17,314
hearings adopted by the City

5230
03:35:17,314 --> 03:35:17,983
Council, petitioner or

5231
03:35:17,983 --> 03:35:18,783
representative of the

5232
03:35:18,783 --> 03:35:19,517
petitioner and a leader of

5233
03:35:19,517 --> 03:35:19,784
those in opposition. We

5234
03:35:19,784 --> 03:35:20,651
ll each

5235
03:35:20,651 --> 03:35:21,850
have ten minutes Persis

5236
03:35:21,850 --> 03:35:21,385
following. Then we

5237
03:35:21,385 --> 03:35:22,186
ll have up

5238
03:35:22,186 --> 03:35:23,154
to three minutes each with a

5239
03:35:23,154 --> 03:35:24,189
total for each side, no more

5240
03:35:24,189 --> 03:35:24,822
than 30 minutes. Additionally,

5241
03:35:24,822 --> 03:35:25,556
we will remind those in

5242
03:35:25,556 --> 03:35:26,858
attendance to extend the

5243
03:35:26,858 --> 03:35:28,259
courtesy to person speaking

5244
03:35:28,259 --> 03:35:29,460
during the public hearing and

5245
03:35:29,460 --> 03:35:30,995
to the City Council during

5246
03:35:30,995 --> 03:35:31,862
discussions. Comments made by

5247
03:35:31,862 --> 03:35:32,830
members of the public are to

5248
03:35:32,830 --> 03:35:33,831
occur only during the public

5249
03:35:33,831 --> 03:35:34,799
hearing is allowed by the mayor

5250
03:35:34,799 --> 03:35:35,867
in accordance with the adopted

5251
03:35:35,867 --> 03:35:36,400
policy of the City Council.

5252
03:35:36,400 --> 03:35:37,402
There should be no

5253
03:35:37,402 --> 03:35:38,169
interruptions of speakers or

5254
03:35:38,169 --> 03:35:39,571
council members, including

5255
03:35:39,571 --> 03:35:40,638
expressions of support or

5256
03:35:40,638 --> 03:35:41,406
disagreements or earlier by

5257
03:35:41,406 --> 03:35:42,207
applause. As this is

5258
03:35:42,207 --> 03:35:43,908
distracting and makes

5259
03:35:43,908 --> 03:35:45,409
discussion difficult, we ask

5260
03:35:45,409 --> 03:35:47,211
for your cooperation. Thank

5261
03:35:47,211 --> 03:35:48,790
you, MR. Manager. Our first

5262
03:35:48,790 --> 03:35:49,213
public hearing.

5263
03:35:49,213 --> 03:35:50,748
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

5264
03:35:50,748 --> 03:35:53,148
six ordinance to annex

5265
03:35:53,250 --> 03:35:55,250
Cobblestone South involving

5266
03:35:56,654 --> 03:35:58,890
2.2168 acres located east of

5267
03:35:58,890 --> 03:35:59,757
Allen Road and at the current

5268
03:35:59,757 --> 03:35:59,890
terminus of Quail Drive. I

5269
03:35:59,890 --> 03:36:01,250
ll

5270
03:36:01,250 --> 03:36:02,760
now call forward our city

5271
03:36:02,760 --> 03:36:05,760
planner, Deon Hodge, for the

5272
03:36:07,265 --> 03:36:07,966
presentation.

5273
03:36:07,966 --> 03:36:09,434
Yeah.

5274
03:36:09,434 --> 03:36:10,340
Good evening, Mayor and

5275
03:36:10,340 --> 03:36:12,340
Council.

5276
03:36:14,105 --> 03:36:15,540
Good evening. I like it, I like

5277
03:36:15,540 --> 03:36:17,540
it.

5278
03:36:17,709 --> 03:36:19,143
This property is located in the

5279
03:36:19,143 --> 03:36:21,543
southwestern quadrant of the

5280
03:36:22,614 --> 03:36:24,820
city. More specifically, this

5281
03:36:24,820 --> 03:36:25,850
property is located east of

5282
03:36:25,850 --> 03:36:28,153
Allen Road and at the current

5283
03:36:28,153 --> 03:36:29,854
terminus of Quail Drive. The

5284
03:36:29,854 --> 03:36:32,323
current city limits are shown

5285
03:36:32,323 --> 03:36:34,859
in green. The subject property

5286
03:36:34,859 --> 03:36:36,461
is shown in red. This property

5287
03:36:36,461 --> 03:36:40,310
is located in the Green Mill

5288
03:36:40,310 --> 03:36:41,832
Run watershed. This property is

5289
03:36:41,832 --> 03:36:43,868
located in the primary service

5290
03:36:43,868 --> 03:36:45,469
area on the tiered growth map,

5291
03:36:45,469 --> 03:36:47,272
and would be located in City

5292
03:36:47,272 --> 03:36:49,672
Council voting district number

5293
03:36:49,741 --> 03:36:52,760
two. This property is

5294
03:36:52,760 --> 03:36:53,945
anticipated to yield 1010

5295
03:36:53,945 --> 03:36:56,945
single family lots, with an

5296
03:36:57,682 --> 03:36:59,160
estimated tax value of $3.25

5297
03:36:59,160 --> 03:36:59,383
million. And that

5298
03:36:59,383 --> 03:37:01,285
s. This

5299
03:37:01,285 --> 03:37:02,720
property is located in the itj.

5300
03:37:02,720 --> 03:37:04,220
It is important to note that

5301
03:37:04,220 --> 03:37:04,555
under section six of Goose

5302
03:37:04,555 --> 03:37:06,157
s

5303
03:37:06,157 --> 03:37:07,591
charter, the development can

5304
03:37:07,591 --> 03:37:09,227
still be provided. Sanitary

5305
03:37:09,227 --> 03:37:10,294
sewer. If the annexation is

5306
03:37:10,294 --> 03:37:11,129
denied, and I

5307
03:37:11,129 --> 03:37:12,763
d be happy to

5308
03:37:12,763 --> 03:37:13,998
answer any questions.

5309
03:37:13,998 --> 03:37:15,998
Any questions?

5310
03:37:17,835 --> 03:37:22,350
Uh, can you go back to the

5311
03:37:24,750 --> 03:37:24,375
first. Uh, move forward? I

5312
03:37:24,375 --> 03:37:26,375
m

5313
03:37:26,811 --> 03:37:27,440
sorry. The map. The first map?

5314
03:37:27,440 --> 03:37:28,179
No, it

5315
03:37:28,179 --> 03:37:31,179
s the second map. Move

5316
03:37:31,182 --> 03:37:34,753
forward with the red one. Yes.

5317
03:37:34,753 --> 03:37:39,553
I just want to look at it again.

5318
03:37:43,270 --> 03:37:44,620
Okay.

5319
03:37:44,620 --> 03:37:46,620
All right.

5320
03:37:50,568 --> 03:37:52,436
Any questions? Thank you very.

5321
03:37:52,436 --> 03:37:53,371
Much.

5322
03:37:53,371 --> 03:37:54,405
All right. The public hearing

5323
03:37:54,405 --> 03:37:55,206
is now open. Those who speak on

5324
03:37:55,206 --> 03:37:55,873
behalf, the applicant MAY come

5325
03:37:55,873 --> 03:37:56,641
forth. Please state your name

5326
03:37:56,641 --> 03:37:57,608
for the record. Your first

5327
03:37:57,608 --> 03:38:00,608
person has ten minutes. All

5328
03:38:09,687 --> 03:38:10,788
others have three minutes.

5329
03:38:10,788 --> 03:38:11,656
Seeing none, those in

5330
03:38:11,656 --> 03:38:12,390
opposition to the applicant

5331
03:38:12,390 --> 03:38:13,191
come forward. Please state your

5332
03:38:13,191 --> 03:38:14,425
name. For the record. The first

5333
03:38:14,425 --> 03:38:17,425
person has ten minutes. All

5334
03:38:29,106 --> 03:38:30,641
others have three minutes. I

5335
03:38:30,641 --> 03:38:31,442
see none. Public hearing is now

5336
03:38:31,442 --> 03:38:33,770
closed up for a board

5337
03:38:33,770 --> 03:38:34,846
discussion or motion.

5338
03:38:34,846 --> 03:38:35,790
Motion to approve. Second. All

5339
03:38:35,790 --> 03:38:36,348
right.

5340
03:38:36,348 --> 03:38:37,415
Motion for MAY by Councilmember

5341
03:38:37,415 --> 03:38:39,815
Willis. Second by Councilmember

5342
03:38:39,917 --> 03:38:41,186
Robinson. Any other discussion?

5343
03:38:41,186 --> 03:38:41,719
All those in favor say aye.

5344
03:38:41,719 --> 03:38:42,920
Aye, aye.

5345
03:38:42,920 --> 03:38:44,255
Those opposed say nay.

5346
03:38:44,255 --> 03:38:45,289
Motion passes five zero.

5347
03:38:45,289 --> 03:38:46,570
Item number seven.

5348
03:38:46,570 --> 03:38:47,291
All right. Thank you. Mayor.

5349
03:38:47,291 --> 03:38:48,960
Item number seven. Ordinance to

5350
03:38:48,960 --> 03:38:50,694
annex Lyndale East. Section

5351
03:38:50,694 --> 03:38:53,940
five, phase two, involving

5352
03:38:53,970 --> 03:38:54,498
10.79 acres located at the

5353
03:38:54,498 --> 03:38:56,634
current terminus of Remington

5354
03:38:56,634 --> 03:38:58,102
Drive and Stonehenge Drive.

5355
03:38:58,102 --> 03:38:59,703
Again, call for our city

5356
03:38:59,703 --> 03:39:02,703
planner, Deon Hodge for the

5357
03:39:07,245 --> 03:39:09,245
presentation.

5358
03:39:09,313 --> 03:39:10,648
So this property is located in

5359
03:39:10,648 --> 03:39:12,951
the southeastern quadrant of

5360
03:39:12,951 --> 03:39:14,452
the city. More specifically,

5361
03:39:14,452 --> 03:39:16,253
this property is located at the

5362
03:39:16,253 --> 03:39:18,653
current termini of Remington

5363
03:39:19,156 --> 03:39:20,725
Drive and Stonehenge Drive. The

5364
03:39:20,725 --> 03:39:22,526
current city limits are shown

5365
03:39:22,526 --> 03:39:24,662
in green. The subject property

5366
03:39:24,662 --> 03:39:26,697
is shown in red. This property

5367
03:39:26,697 --> 03:39:29,233
is located in the Fork Swamp

5368
03:39:29,233 --> 03:39:30,902
watershed. This property is

5369
03:39:30,902 --> 03:39:32,637
located in the primary service

5370
03:39:32,637 --> 03:39:34,171
area on the tiered growth map,

5371
03:39:34,171 --> 03:39:35,673
and will be located in City

5372
03:39:35,673 --> 03:39:38,730
Council voting district number

5373
03:39:38,276 --> 03:39:40,511
four. This property is

5374
03:39:40,511 --> 03:39:42,579
anticipated to yield 21 single

5375
03:39:42,579 --> 03:39:45,579
family lots, with an estimated

5376
03:39:48,486 --> 03:39:50,530
tax value of $14.7 million. And

5377
03:39:50,530 --> 03:39:51,689
as this property is located in

5378
03:39:51,689 --> 03:39:53,324
the itj. It is important to

5379
03:39:53,324 --> 03:39:55,226
note that under section six of

5380
03:39:55,226 --> 03:39:56,894
gcs charter, the development

5381
03:39:56,894 --> 03:39:58,696
can still be provided. Sanitary

5382
03:39:58,696 --> 03:39:59,731
sewer. If the annexation is

5383
03:39:59,731 --> 03:40:00,564
denied, and I

5384
03:40:00,564 --> 03:40:01,899
d be happy to

5385
03:40:01,899 --> 03:40:02,266
answer any questions.

5386
03:40:02,266 --> 03:40:03,701
All right.

5387
03:40:03,701 --> 03:40:05,169
Any questions for MR. Hodge?

5388
03:40:05,169 --> 03:40:05,570
Just one. Do you anticipate

5389
03:40:05,570 --> 03:40:06,170
that when they

5390
03:40:06,170 --> 03:40:07,105
re built out,

5391
03:40:07,105 --> 03:40:08,940
that they will connect to

5392
03:40:08,940 --> 03:40:09,506
Stonehenge so they can exit out

5393
03:40:09,506 --> 03:40:10,942
to Arlington?

5394
03:40:10,942 --> 03:40:11,408
Exactly. Thank you. That seems

5395
03:40:11,408 --> 03:40:11,943
to be the.

5396
03:40:11,943 --> 03:40:13,111
Their goal.

5397
03:40:13,111 --> 03:40:15,111
There. All right.

5398
03:40:17,915 --> 03:40:19,650
Any other questions? Thank you

5399
03:40:19,650 --> 03:40:20,851
very much. Public hearing is

5400
03:40:20,851 --> 03:40:21,652
now open. Those to speak on

5401
03:40:21,652 --> 03:40:22,420
behalf of the applicant MAY

5402
03:40:22,420 --> 03:40:23,221
come forward. Please state your

5403
03:40:23,221 --> 03:40:24,822
name for the record, the first

5404
03:40:24,822 --> 03:40:27,822
person has ten minutes. All

5405
03:40:33,264 --> 03:40:35,466
others have three minutes.

5406
03:40:35,466 --> 03:40:35,600
Good evening. Good evening.

5407
03:40:35,600 --> 03:40:36,867
I

5408
03:40:36,867 --> 03:40:38,335
m Dwight.

5409
03:40:38,335 --> 03:40:39,170
Nelson with Rivers and

5410
03:40:39,170 --> 03:40:39,937
Associates. We

5411
03:40:39,937 --> 03:40:42,139
re the agent for

5412
03:40:42,139 --> 03:40:43,408
the owner. And, uh, be glad to

5413
03:40:43,408 --> 03:40:43,874
answer any questions you MAY

5414
03:40:43,874 --> 03:40:44,509
have. That

5415
03:40:44,509 --> 03:40:46,509
s all.

5416
03:40:53,317 --> 03:40:54,318
All right. Any questions? Thank

5417
03:40:54,318 --> 03:40:56,721
you very much. Thank you. That

5418
03:40:56,721 --> 03:40:56,920
was a great presentation.

5419
03:40:56,920 --> 03:40:57,388
That

5420
03:40:57,388 --> 03:40:58,122
s my.

5421
03:40:58,122 --> 03:41:00,122
Favorites.

5422
03:41:00,191 --> 03:41:00,958
All right. Anyone else is here

5423
03:41:00,958 --> 03:41:01,792
to speak on behalf? The

5424
03:41:01,792 --> 03:41:02,593
applicant MAY come forward.

5425
03:41:02,593 --> 03:41:06,193
Please state your name for the

5426
03:41:16,173 --> 03:41:17,800
record, you have three minutes.

5427
03:41:17,800 --> 03:41:17,942
Seeing none, those in

5428
03:41:17,942 --> 03:41:18,709
opposition to the applicant

5429
03:41:18,709 --> 03:41:19,410
come forward. Please state your

5430
03:41:19,410 --> 03:41:20,311
name for the record. The first

5431
03:41:20,311 --> 03:41:23,311
person has ten minutes. All

5432
03:41:31,656 --> 03:41:32,856
others have three minutes.

5433
03:41:32,856 --> 03:41:33,825
Seeing none. Public hearing is

5434
03:41:33,825 --> 03:41:35,593
now closed for a board

5435
03:41:35,593 --> 03:41:37,394
discussion or motion.

5436
03:41:37,394 --> 03:41:38,495
Motion to approve. Second.

5437
03:41:38,495 --> 03:41:39,563
All right. Motion for MAY by

5438
03:41:39,563 --> 03:41:40,464
Councilmember Hardy. Second by

5439
03:41:40,464 --> 03:41:42,464
Councilmember Robinson. Any

5440
03:41:42,900 --> 03:41:44,501
other discussion? All those in

5441
03:41:44,501 --> 03:41:45,302
favor say aye. Aye. Those

5442
03:41:45,302 --> 03:41:47,302
opposed say nay.

5443
03:41:47,438 --> 03:41:47,872
Motion passes five zero.

5444
03:41:47,872 --> 03:41:48,305
All right. Let

5445
03:41:48,305 --> 03:41:49,207
s move on to

5446
03:41:49,207 --> 03:41:50,274
item number eight.

5447
03:41:50,274 --> 03:41:51,809
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

5448
03:41:51,809 --> 03:41:54,209
eight. Ordinance requested by

5449
03:41:56,180 --> 03:41:59,383
pobo llc to rezone a total of

5450
03:41:59,383 --> 03:42:01,119
56.3694 acres from ra 20

5451
03:42:01,119 --> 03:42:03,530
residential agriculture to

5452
03:42:03,530 --> 03:42:06,530
industry to industry for tract

5453
03:42:07,958 --> 03:42:09,860
one, 47.5795 acres to o dash a

5454
03:42:09,860 --> 03:42:12,260
office Conservation overlay for

5455
03:42:16,400 --> 03:42:19,400
track 28.6062 acres and to o

5456
03:42:20,637 --> 03:42:21,839
office for tract 3-0.1837 acres

5457
03:42:21,839 --> 03:42:23,240
for the property, located at

5458
03:42:23,240 --> 03:42:25,900
the northeast corner of the

5459
03:42:25,900 --> 03:42:26,911
intersection of Old Creek Road

5460
03:42:26,911 --> 03:42:27,778
and Tram Road. Costs for

5461
03:42:27,778 --> 03:42:28,946
forward, our Assistant

5462
03:42:28,946 --> 03:42:31,946
Director, Shanti Gubbi for the

5463
03:42:32,783 --> 03:42:34,840
presentation.

5464
03:42:34,840 --> 03:42:36,420
All right. Good evening.

5465
03:42:36,420 --> 03:42:38,420
Good evening.

5466
03:42:38,890 --> 03:42:40,391
Um, this property is located in

5467
03:42:40,391 --> 03:42:41,291
the northeast quadrant of the

5468
03:42:41,291 --> 03:42:41,826
city. Um, it

5469
03:42:41,826 --> 03:42:43,826
s more

5470
03:42:43,928 --> 03:42:45,396
specifically located along Old

5471
03:42:45,396 --> 03:42:46,497
Creek Road. So just sort of to

5472
03:42:46,497 --> 03:42:49,320
the top left. That would be

5473
03:42:49,320 --> 03:42:50,868
Heister. Yale. This rezoning is

5474
03:42:50,868 --> 03:42:51,435
divided into three different

5475
03:42:51,435 --> 03:42:52,169
tracks. I

5476
03:42:52,169 --> 03:42:53,136
ll go through them,

5477
03:42:53,136 --> 03:42:53,304
but then I have a survey. I

5478
03:42:53,304 --> 03:42:54,438
ll

5479
03:42:54,438 --> 03:42:56,841
give you a little bit more

5480
03:42:56,841 --> 03:42:58,775
detail. Um, but track one is

5481
03:42:58,775 --> 03:43:00,211
the bulk of the property. You

5482
03:43:00,211 --> 03:43:02,380
have tract two, which goes

5483
03:43:02,380 --> 03:43:03,948
around the perimeter and then

5484
03:43:03,948 --> 03:43:04,548
track three. I have a blow up

5485
03:43:04,548 --> 03:43:05,316
of that. So it

5486
03:43:05,316 --> 03:43:07,351
s just a teeny

5487
03:43:07,351 --> 03:43:07,585
tiny little piece there. Um,

5488
03:43:07,585 --> 03:43:08,319
and we

5489
03:43:08,319 --> 03:43:08,852
ll talk about why that

5490
03:43:08,852 --> 03:43:10,852
s

5491
03:43:12,423 --> 03:43:16,230
been, um, uh, proposed for just

5492
03:43:16,260 --> 03:43:18,562
office. So again, this is the

5493
03:43:18,562 --> 03:43:19,296
breakdown of the different, uh,

5494
03:43:19,296 --> 03:43:20,598
zoning that they

5495
03:43:20,598 --> 03:43:22,598
re asking for.

5496
03:43:23,433 --> 03:43:25,402
Track one is for industry.

5497
03:43:25,402 --> 03:43:27,405
Track two is office with a

5498
03:43:27,405 --> 03:43:29,805
conservation overlay, and track

5499
03:43:30,541 --> 03:43:31,509
three is for plain office. This

5500
03:43:31,509 --> 03:43:34,780
is a photograph of the

5501
03:43:34,780 --> 03:43:36,513
property. So, um, Old Creek

5502
03:43:36,513 --> 03:43:40,113
Road would be, uh, you know,

5503
03:43:41,218 --> 03:43:43,220
sort of behind you. There is an

5504
03:43:43,220 --> 03:43:44,989
activity center located along

5505
03:43:44,989 --> 03:43:46,990
North Creek Road. Activity

5506
03:43:46,990 --> 03:43:49,326
centers are where, um,

5507
03:43:49,326 --> 03:43:51,726
commercial and even industrial

5508
03:43:53,970 --> 03:43:54,498
is encouraged and expected

5509
03:43:54,498 --> 03:43:56,366
under the current zoning, which

5510
03:43:56,366 --> 03:43:58,200
is already 20 at full build

5511
03:43:58,200 --> 03:44:01,538
out, the number of trips would

5512
03:44:01,538 --> 03:44:02,940
be roughly 1600 and at full

5513
03:44:02,940 --> 03:44:04,341
build out under the proposed

5514
03:44:04,341 --> 03:44:07,341
zoning, the trips would be

5515
03:44:07,845 --> 03:44:11,248
about 1548. So you have a net

5516
03:44:11,248 --> 03:44:13,116
decrease of 48 or 43 trips. So

5517
03:44:13,116 --> 03:44:15,219
because of that, um, when they

5518
03:44:15,219 --> 03:44:16,620
did the initial analysis and it

5519
03:44:16,620 --> 03:44:16,887
is a reduction in trips, then

5520
03:44:16,887 --> 03:44:17,721
they don

5521
03:44:17,721 --> 03:44:19,189
t go further with the

5522
03:44:19,189 --> 03:44:22,189
staff report that you normally

5523
03:44:22,626 --> 03:44:25,626
see. Um, the property is

5524
03:44:26,330 --> 03:44:28,432
located in the second, the

5525
03:44:28,432 --> 03:44:30,134
Johnson Mill Parkers Creek

5526
03:44:30,134 --> 03:44:31,935
watershed. If stormwater is

5527
03:44:31,935 --> 03:44:33,904
required, it will require ten

5528
03:44:33,904 --> 03:44:35,973
year detention. The property is

5529
03:44:35,973 --> 03:44:38,208
not located in a special flood

5530
03:44:38,208 --> 03:44:40,278
hazard area, and there are no

5531
03:44:40,278 --> 03:44:42,678
potential wetlands, buffers or

5532
03:44:42,813 --> 03:44:45,315
streams. Again, the property is

5533
03:44:45,315 --> 03:44:46,483
currently zoned are a 20. Um, I

5534
03:44:46,483 --> 03:44:47,385
want to briefly talk about

5535
03:44:47,385 --> 03:44:47,819
tract two because that

5536
03:44:47,819 --> 03:44:49,787
s a

5537
03:44:49,787 --> 03:44:52,187
conservation area overlay that

5538
03:44:53,257 --> 03:44:56,126
is typically not, uh, a or a, a

5539
03:44:56,126 --> 03:44:57,194
zoning that we have. Um, this

5540
03:44:57,194 --> 03:44:57,895
is a zoning that we

5541
03:44:57,895 --> 03:44:59,496
ve had for

5542
03:44:59,496 --> 03:45:02,266
years. This is not something

5543
03:45:02,266 --> 03:45:02,866
under the new Youdo. And the

5544
03:45:02,866 --> 03:45:04,468
reason it

5545
03:45:04,468 --> 03:45:06,603
s used, and this is

5546
03:45:06,603 --> 03:45:07,972
straight out of our Udo, is

5547
03:45:07,972 --> 03:45:09,841
when property is zoned with

5548
03:45:09,841 --> 03:45:11,676
that ca overlay, then that

5549
03:45:11,676 --> 03:45:12,309
means that, um, you

5550
03:45:12,309 --> 03:45:14,309
re

5551
03:45:14,444 --> 03:45:16,444
prohibited from having

5552
03:45:16,747 --> 03:45:18,747
buildings, structures, parking

5553
03:45:18,882 --> 03:45:20,384
and drives, etc. On that piece

5554
03:45:20,384 --> 03:45:22,486
of property. So it essentially

5555
03:45:22,486 --> 03:45:24,355
acts as a buffer. And then just

5556
03:45:24,355 --> 03:45:26,624
a little bit further, it says

5557
03:45:26,624 --> 03:45:27,925
it shall remain undeveloped,

5558
03:45:27,925 --> 03:45:28,920
vacant. And again, you can

5559
03:45:28,920 --> 03:45:29,359
t

5560
03:45:29,359 --> 03:45:31,628
put building structures or

5561
03:45:31,628 --> 03:45:33,364
parking on it. And then one

5562
03:45:33,364 --> 03:45:36,466
other requirement is as it has

5563
03:45:36,466 --> 03:45:36,867
to be at least 100ft wide. And

5564
03:45:36,867 --> 03:45:37,968
so that

5565
03:45:37,968 --> 03:45:40,368
s essentially why you

5566
03:45:40,738 --> 03:45:42,907
have tract two at that, um,

5567
03:45:42,907 --> 03:45:45,307
with that surrounding tract

5568
03:45:45,309 --> 03:45:46,877
one. And the reason why is

5569
03:45:46,877 --> 03:45:49,877
because the future land use

5570
03:45:49,913 --> 03:45:52,313
plan recommends industrial or

5571
03:45:52,650 --> 03:45:53,817
logistics in grey. And then you

5572
03:45:53,817 --> 03:45:53,951
have the green. And that

5573
03:45:53,951 --> 03:45:55,386
s

5574
03:45:55,386 --> 03:45:56,687
potential conservation open

5575
03:45:56,687 --> 03:45:58,889
space. And we talk about that.

5576
03:45:58,889 --> 03:46:00,424
Green serves two purposes. It

5577
03:46:00,424 --> 03:46:02,359
can either serve as a purpose

5578
03:46:02,359 --> 03:46:03,894
for um, potential environmental

5579
03:46:03,894 --> 03:46:05,195
constraints. But it can also

5580
03:46:05,195 --> 03:46:07,765
show that there should be some

5581
03:46:07,765 --> 03:46:10,670
sort of a buffer between the

5582
03:46:10,670 --> 03:46:12,436
industrial and then the yellow

5583
03:46:12,436 --> 03:46:14,938
is residential. So in this

5584
03:46:14,938 --> 03:46:16,474
case, the request is to put the

5585
03:46:16,474 --> 03:46:18,474
conservation, at the

5586
03:46:18,809 --> 03:46:20,177
conservation area overlay

5587
03:46:20,177 --> 03:46:22,646
around the perimeter of the

5588
03:46:22,646 --> 03:46:24,515
property, track three is that

5589
03:46:24,515 --> 03:46:26,817
little tiny piece. And they

5590
03:46:26,817 --> 03:46:28,520
have left that as part of an

5591
03:46:28,520 --> 03:46:29,320
access. So that

5592
03:46:29,320 --> 03:46:31,720
s why the track

5593
03:46:32,222 --> 03:46:35,492
three is just office by itself.

5594
03:46:35,492 --> 03:46:38,362
So again the land, the Future

5595
03:46:38,362 --> 03:46:40,564
land use plan recommends, uh,

5596
03:46:40,564 --> 03:46:42,232
industrial. The request is for

5597
03:46:42,232 --> 03:46:44,350
industrial with again some

5598
03:46:44,350 --> 03:46:45,803
conservation area overlay

5599
03:46:45,803 --> 03:46:46,300
around the periphery and

5600
03:46:46,300 --> 03:46:47,170
staff

5601
03:46:47,170 --> 03:46:48,605
s opinion. The request is

5602
03:46:48,605 --> 03:46:50,173
in compliance with the comp

5603
03:46:50,173 --> 03:46:51,975
plan with the future land use

5604
03:46:51,975 --> 03:46:54,440
and character map. Therefore,

5605
03:46:54,440 --> 03:46:56,444
staff recommends approval. And

5606
03:46:57,348 --> 03:46:58,482
at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning

5607
03:46:58,482 --> 03:47:00,217
and Zoning meeting, the

5608
03:47:00,217 --> 03:47:01,485
Commission voted unanimously to

5609
03:47:01,485 --> 03:47:03,788
recommend approval of the

5610
03:47:03,788 --> 03:47:05,122
request and I will be happy to

5611
03:47:05,122 --> 03:47:06,623
answer any questions.

5612
03:47:06,623 --> 03:47:08,250
All right. Thank you very much.

5613
03:47:08,250 --> 03:47:10,270
Any questions for MISS Scooby?

5614
03:47:10,270 --> 03:47:10,895
I just have one. Is it my

5615
03:47:10,895 --> 03:47:11,195
understanding that there

5616
03:47:11,195 --> 03:47:13,195
s an

5617
03:47:13,630 --> 03:47:15,832
additional buffer or, um,

5618
03:47:15,832 --> 03:47:16,467
between that and the properties

5619
03:47:16,467 --> 03:47:18,302
surrounding.

5620
03:47:18,302 --> 03:47:20,104
It?

5621
03:47:20,104 --> 03:47:22,272
Do you mean for tract two or

5622
03:47:22,272 --> 03:47:23,740
tract two? Is the buffer.

5623
03:47:23,740 --> 03:47:23,941
Tract to is the buffer? But

5624
03:47:23,941 --> 03:47:25,142
that

5625
03:47:25,142 --> 03:47:27,745
s more than what is

5626
03:47:27,745 --> 03:47:28,379
normally required.

5627
03:47:28,379 --> 03:47:29,446
Yes.

5628
03:47:29,446 --> 03:47:30,914
Does that make sense?

5629
03:47:30,914 --> 03:47:32,550
Yes. It will stay in its

5630
03:47:32,550 --> 03:47:34,151
natural state. So whatever

5631
03:47:34,151 --> 03:47:35,553
trees are there, those have to

5632
03:47:35,553 --> 03:47:35,819
stay there. Right. And again

5633
03:47:35,819 --> 03:47:37,210
you can

5634
03:47:37,210 --> 03:47:37,187
t put parking and you

5635
03:47:37,187 --> 03:47:38,856
can

5636
03:47:38,856 --> 03:47:40,391
t put buildings in it. But

5637
03:47:40,391 --> 03:47:42,493
you will still have the normal

5638
03:47:42,493 --> 03:47:43,660
buffers that would be required

5639
03:47:43,660 --> 03:47:43,927
as well. Okay. So let

5640
03:47:43,927 --> 03:47:45,927
s say

5641
03:47:47,866 --> 03:47:49,466
extra 100ft of no buildings and

5642
03:47:49,466 --> 03:47:51,101
no parking lot is essentially

5643
03:47:51,101 --> 03:47:53,101
what that accomplishes.

5644
03:47:53,970 --> 03:47:54,939
And that is near Dnipro where

5645
03:47:54,939 --> 03:47:55,239
Dnipro is being.

5646
03:47:55,239 --> 03:47:56,306
Yeah, that

5647
03:47:56,306 --> 03:47:57,574
s just kind of to

5648
03:47:57,574 --> 03:48:00,770
the south of it along North

5649
03:48:00,770 --> 03:48:01,345
Creek Road. Mhm.

5650
03:48:01,345 --> 03:48:02,460
Can you tell me a little bit

5651
03:48:02,460 --> 03:48:02,579
more about why there

5652
03:48:02,579 --> 03:48:04,579
s a cookie

5653
03:48:05,816 --> 03:48:07,816
cutter track three.

5654
03:48:07,818 --> 03:48:10,287
I let the applicant but again

5655
03:48:10,287 --> 03:48:12,890
okay. The, the tiny piece is so

5656
03:48:12,890 --> 03:48:15,426
there can be access ingress and

5657
03:48:15,426 --> 03:48:16,927
ingress and egress because you

5658
03:48:16,927 --> 03:48:19,196
cannot put that through the

5659
03:48:19,196 --> 03:48:21,365
conservation area overlay. But

5660
03:48:21,365 --> 03:48:22,399
again we have a representative

5661
03:48:22,399 --> 03:48:23,833
here who can talk a little bit

5662
03:48:23,833 --> 03:48:27,404
more about it. But it was

5663
03:48:27,404 --> 03:48:29,404
purposeful.

5664
03:48:29,973 --> 03:48:31,942
All right. Any other questions.

5665
03:48:31,942 --> 03:48:33,110
Thank you very much. All right.

5666
03:48:33,110 --> 03:48:33,878
The public hearing is now open.

5667
03:48:33,878 --> 03:48:34,678
Those who speak on behalf of

5668
03:48:34,678 --> 03:48:35,346
the applicant MAY come forward.

5669
03:48:35,346 --> 03:48:36,480
Please state your name for the

5670
03:48:36,480 --> 03:48:38,949
record, the first person has

5671
03:48:38,949 --> 03:48:40,717
ten minutes. All others have

5672
03:48:40,717 --> 03:48:41,818
three minutes.

5673
03:48:41,818 --> 03:48:43,821
Uh. Good evening. Mayor.

5674
03:48:43,821 --> 03:48:45,656
Council member. My name is Ken

5675
03:48:45,656 --> 03:48:46,958
Malpass, representing Po Bow.

5676
03:48:46,958 --> 03:48:48,426
Um, to address your question,

5677
03:48:48,426 --> 03:48:48,625
MR. Robertson, what it is is

5678
03:48:48,625 --> 03:48:50,494
there

5679
03:48:50,494 --> 03:48:52,894
s an existing gravel

5680
03:48:53,290 --> 03:48:55,866
drive that provides access to a

5681
03:48:55,866 --> 03:48:57,401
couple, um, owners in the back.

5682
03:48:57,401 --> 03:48:57,601
This, uh, old tram lane that

5683
03:48:57,601 --> 03:48:59,469
s

5684
03:48:59,469 --> 03:49:01,805
been there for probably 75 or

5685
03:49:01,805 --> 03:49:04,108
80 years. And because of the

5686
03:49:04,108 --> 03:49:05,308
way the conservation, um, you

5687
03:49:05,308 --> 03:49:06,744
cannot put a private drive

5688
03:49:06,744 --> 03:49:08,345
through it. So we had to

5689
03:49:08,345 --> 03:49:10,547
separate out that so they could

5690
03:49:10,547 --> 03:49:11,548
still keep that access is what

5691
03:49:11,548 --> 03:49:12,182
it is. And we met with the

5692
03:49:12,182 --> 03:49:12,816
neighbors. And that

5693
03:49:12,816 --> 03:49:14,816
s how this

5694
03:49:14,952 --> 03:49:16,952
conservation overlay came

5695
03:49:17,454 --> 03:49:19,256
about. Um, we had a 50 foot

5696
03:49:19,256 --> 03:49:21,910
originally that would match the

5697
03:49:21,910 --> 03:49:22,292
vegetation, and they asked for

5698
03:49:22,292 --> 03:49:23,360
another 50ft. And I think

5699
03:49:23,360 --> 03:49:25,195
everybody was in agreement

5700
03:49:25,195 --> 03:49:26,363
that, um, with the compromise,

5701
03:49:26,363 --> 03:49:27,898
that that would be okay. We had

5702
03:49:27,898 --> 03:49:30,133
to leave that or that would

5703
03:49:30,133 --> 03:49:31,101
have negated the. Access by

5704
03:49:31,101 --> 03:49:32,936
doing the overlay.

5705
03:49:32,936 --> 03:49:33,671
That was kind of my

5706
03:49:33,671 --> 03:49:35,671
supposition.

5707
03:49:37,274 --> 03:49:38,409
Right. Thank you.

5708
03:49:38,409 --> 03:49:39,210
Any other questions?

5709
03:49:39,210 --> 03:49:42,210
All right. Any other questions

5710
03:49:43,681 --> 03:49:44,914
for MISS Malpass? Thank you

5711
03:49:44,914 --> 03:49:46,350
very much. Thank you. Anyone

5712
03:49:46,350 --> 03:49:47,150
else that is here to speak on

5713
03:49:47,150 --> 03:49:47,951
behalf of the applicant MAY

5714
03:49:47,951 --> 03:49:49,519
come forward. Please state your

5715
03:49:49,519 --> 03:49:53,119
name for the record. You have

5716
03:50:01,298 --> 03:50:02,232
three minutes. Seeing none.

5717
03:50:02,232 --> 03:50:03,330
Those in opposition to the

5718
03:50:03,330 --> 03:50:03,801
applicant MAY come forward.

5719
03:50:03,801 --> 03:50:04,668
Please state your name. For the

5720
03:50:04,668 --> 03:50:07,137
record. The first person has

5721
03:50:07,137 --> 03:50:10,137
ten minutes. All others have

5722
03:50:17,413 --> 03:50:18,449
three minutes. Seeing none. The

5723
03:50:18,449 --> 03:50:19,750
public hearing is now closed.

5724
03:50:19,750 --> 03:50:20,784
Open for board discussion or a

5725
03:50:20,784 --> 03:50:22,784
motion.

5726
03:50:22,987 --> 03:50:24,788
Motion to approve. Second.

5727
03:50:24,788 --> 03:50:26,256
All right. Motion was made by

5728
03:50:26,256 --> 03:50:28,656
Councilmember Willis. Second by

5729
03:50:29,193 --> 03:50:29,927
Council Jones. All those in

5730
03:50:29,927 --> 03:50:30,227
favor say aye.

5731
03:50:30,227 --> 03:50:31,261
Aye.

5732
03:50:31,261 --> 03:50:33,300
Those opposed say nay.

5733
03:50:33,300 --> 03:50:33,163
Motion passes five zero.

5734
03:50:33,163 --> 03:50:34,164
I

5735
03:50:34,164 --> 03:50:34,664
ll move on to item number

5736
03:50:34,664 --> 03:50:35,899
nine.

5737
03:50:35,899 --> 03:50:37,434
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

5738
03:50:37,434 --> 03:50:38,936
nine. Ordinance. Ordinance

5739
03:50:38,936 --> 03:50:40,404
requested by the Community

5740
03:50:40,404 --> 03:50:41,471
Development Services Department

5741
03:50:41,471 --> 03:50:43,306
to amend the Unified

5742
03:50:43,306 --> 03:50:44,774
Development Ordinance. Udo, to

5743
03:50:44,774 --> 03:50:46,743
add definitions and standards

5744
03:50:46,743 --> 03:50:48,746
for short term rentals,

5745
03:50:48,746 --> 03:50:51,515
homestay and short term rental.

5746
03:50:51,515 --> 03:50:53,250
Whole house lodging uses in

5747
03:50:53,250 --> 03:50:55,752
adding these uses to section

5748
03:50:55,752 --> 03:50:57,154
313. Table of uses as permitted

5749
03:50:57,154 --> 03:50:58,989
uses in the following zoning

5750
03:50:58,989 --> 03:51:01,250
districts are a 20 residential

5751
03:51:01,250 --> 03:51:03,425
agriculture r-1 five s

5752
03:51:03,527 --> 03:51:05,395
residential single family r9s

5753
03:51:05,395 --> 03:51:07,331
residential single family are

5754
03:51:07,331 --> 03:51:09,366
six residential single family

5755
03:51:09,366 --> 03:51:10,901
or non residential or six

5756
03:51:10,901 --> 03:51:12,736
residential or six a

5757
03:51:12,736 --> 03:51:15,136
residential or six mh

5758
03:51:16,707 --> 03:51:18,475
residential mobile home th10

5759
03:51:18,475 --> 03:51:20,210
tiny home community. MR..

5760
03:51:20,210 --> 03:51:21,344
Medical. Residential. MRS..

5761
03:51:21,344 --> 03:51:23,313
Medical. Residential. Single

5762
03:51:23,313 --> 03:51:25,713
family or office. Residential

5763
03:51:26,417 --> 03:51:28,986
cd downtown commercial and cdf

5764
03:51:28,986 --> 03:51:30,221
downtown commercial fringe. Now

5765
03:51:30,221 --> 03:51:31,388
call for an Assistant Director.

5766
03:51:31,388 --> 03:51:32,456
Shanti Gooby for the

5767
03:51:32,456 --> 03:51:32,989
presentation.

5768
03:51:32,989 --> 03:51:33,757
I don

5769
03:51:33,757 --> 03:51:35,158
t want to say anything,

5770
03:51:35,158 --> 03:51:36,260
but after you read that, our

5771
03:51:36,260 --> 03:51:36,760
whole crowd.

5772
03:51:36,760 --> 03:51:38,262
Left.

5773
03:51:38,262 --> 03:51:38,928
Almost our whole crowd. The the

5774
03:51:38,928 --> 03:51:39,830
three in the back.

5775
03:51:39,830 --> 03:51:39,996
Are here.

5776
03:51:39,996 --> 03:51:41,650
We

5777
03:51:41,650 --> 03:51:43,267
re here for the long run.

5778
03:51:43,267 --> 03:51:43,433
Right?

5779
03:51:43,433 --> 03:51:44,701
We

5780
03:51:44,701 --> 03:51:48,301
ll try to make it as

5781
03:51:48,305 --> 03:51:50,540
interesting as possible. Um, so

5782
03:51:50,540 --> 03:51:52,643
again, um, short term rentals.

5783
03:51:52,643 --> 03:51:54,780
Um, those can come on many

5784
03:51:54,780 --> 03:51:56,478
different platforms. The most

5785
03:51:56,647 --> 03:51:59,283
popular ones are Airbnb and

5786
03:51:59,283 --> 03:52:01,284
Burbank, and generally you have

5787
03:52:01,284 --> 03:52:03,286
two types of, um, short term

5788
03:52:03,286 --> 03:52:03,487
rentals. You have what we

5789
03:52:03,487 --> 03:52:05,422
re

5790
03:52:05,422 --> 03:52:07,224
calling the home state, which

5791
03:52:07,224 --> 03:52:08,892
is where you have a host on

5792
03:52:08,892 --> 03:52:11,695
site with you, whether it be an

5793
03:52:11,695 --> 03:52:13,397
apartment or a house of some

5794
03:52:13,397 --> 03:52:13,630
sort. And then we have what

5795
03:52:13,630 --> 03:52:14,631
s

5796
03:52:14,631 --> 03:52:16,330
called, in the second

5797
03:52:16,330 --> 03:52:16,733
definition, whole house

5798
03:52:16,733 --> 03:52:17,467
lodging. And it

5799
03:52:17,467 --> 03:52:18,635
s exactly what

5800
03:52:18,635 --> 03:52:21,500
it sounds like. You get the

5801
03:52:21,500 --> 03:52:21,171
whole dwelling to yourself. So

5802
03:52:21,171 --> 03:52:22,639
we

5803
03:52:22,639 --> 03:52:24,308
re just basically referring

5804
03:52:24,308 --> 03:52:28,278
to it with the host and without

5805
03:52:28,278 --> 03:52:31,878
a host. Uh, um, several months

5806
03:52:32,382 --> 03:52:34,384
ago, city staff was, um, able

5807
03:52:34,384 --> 03:52:36,887
to use some software that deals

5808
03:52:36,887 --> 03:52:39,122
with short term rentals. Uh,

5809
03:52:39,122 --> 03:52:41,592
this was done back in APRIL of

5810
03:52:41,592 --> 03:52:43,861
this year, and we were able to

5811
03:52:43,861 --> 03:52:46,261
identify some with certainty

5812
03:52:46,263 --> 03:52:48,165
and some with not exact

5813
03:52:48,165 --> 03:52:49,666
specificity of short term

5814
03:52:49,666 --> 03:52:50,100
rentals that are in Greenville.

5815
03:52:50,100 --> 03:52:51,367
So we

5816
03:52:51,367 --> 03:52:53,303
ve shown those all with

5817
03:52:53,303 --> 03:52:55,105
the blue dots. And then we

5818
03:52:55,105 --> 03:52:56,140
broke those out into what

5819
03:52:56,140 --> 03:52:57,474
zoning district they

5820
03:52:57,474 --> 03:52:59,474
re in. And

5821
03:53:00,143 --> 03:53:02,612
so at that time we had um,

5822
03:53:02,612 --> 03:53:05,120
roughly 270 short term rentals

5823
03:53:06,617 --> 03:53:08,519
in the city. So now to talk

5824
03:53:08,519 --> 03:53:09,920
about the new standards that

5825
03:53:09,920 --> 03:53:10,287
come with this, um, I

5826
03:53:10,287 --> 03:53:11,988
m going

5827
03:53:11,988 --> 03:53:15,459
to go through the homestay or

5828
03:53:15,459 --> 03:53:16,493
with host first. Um, and one of

5829
03:53:16,493 --> 03:53:16,660
one of the reasons why I

5830
03:53:16,660 --> 03:53:17,861
m

5831
03:53:17,861 --> 03:53:19,730
doing this is because a lot of

5832
03:53:19,730 --> 03:53:21,599
these carryover to the second

5833
03:53:21,599 --> 03:53:24,935
type of short term rental. Um,

5834
03:53:24,935 --> 03:53:27,204
so again, with a host, um, the

5835
03:53:27,204 --> 03:53:28,771
owner or operator does have to

5836
03:53:28,771 --> 03:53:29,940
receive a zoning compliance

5837
03:53:29,940 --> 03:53:30,941
permit. Um, it

5838
03:53:30,941 --> 03:53:33,341
s a one time

5839
03:53:33,777 --> 03:53:36,246
permit. Uh, there is no

5840
03:53:36,246 --> 03:53:36,446
exterior advertising that

5841
03:53:36,446 --> 03:53:38,446
s

5842
03:53:38,515 --> 03:53:40,884
allowed. So no outdoor outside

5843
03:53:40,884 --> 03:53:41,952
signage. The owner operator

5844
03:53:41,952 --> 03:53:43,887
does have to supply a

5845
03:53:43,887 --> 03:53:46,890
certificate of insurance. Uh,

5846
03:53:46,890 --> 03:53:47,691
in the amount of $1 million in

5847
03:53:47,691 --> 03:53:49,325
liability insurance for the

5848
03:53:49,325 --> 03:53:50,694
property. And that has to be

5849
03:53:50,694 --> 03:53:53,940
submitted with the permit

5850
03:53:54,310 --> 03:53:56,132
application. Also, no special

5851
03:53:56,132 --> 03:53:58,569
events or gatherings in excess

5852
03:53:58,569 --> 03:54:00,337
of the registered guests and

5853
03:54:00,337 --> 03:54:01,971
then any existing short term

5854
03:54:01,971 --> 03:54:04,307
rentals as of tonight, if this

5855
03:54:04,307 --> 03:54:06,142
is passed, has a year to get

5856
03:54:06,142 --> 03:54:07,577
their permit with us. Right. So

5857
03:54:07,577 --> 03:54:08,946
these are the existing ones.

5858
03:54:08,946 --> 03:54:09,346
And then any new ones,

5859
03:54:09,346 --> 03:54:10,514
obviously we

5860
03:54:10,514 --> 03:54:11,347
ll go ahead and

5861
03:54:11,347 --> 03:54:12,849
ideally

5862
03:54:12,849 --> 03:54:14,417
Do their permit before they

5863
03:54:14,417 --> 03:54:16,219
establish themselves as a short

5864
03:54:16,219 --> 03:54:17,200
term rental. Um, we do

5865
03:54:17,200 --> 03:54:17,420
recognize that we

5866
03:54:17,420 --> 03:54:19,420
re going to

5867
03:54:19,790 --> 03:54:22,225
have to do, um, a little bit of

5868
03:54:22,225 --> 03:54:24,762
publicity to to bring awareness

5869
03:54:24,762 --> 03:54:26,530
to them. Some people probably,

5870
03:54:26,530 --> 03:54:27,430
um, MAY not even know that they

5871
03:54:27,430 --> 03:54:27,731
have to do this. So that

5872
03:54:27,731 --> 03:54:29,731
ll

5873
03:54:30,634 --> 03:54:32,936
come if we, um, if you approve,

5874
03:54:32,936 --> 03:54:35,336
uh, text amendment. Another

5875
03:54:35,638 --> 03:54:37,841
thing that we added is that

5876
03:54:37,841 --> 03:54:39,943
any, um, short term rental that

5877
03:54:39,943 --> 03:54:42,343
receives either three citations

5878
03:54:42,479 --> 03:54:44,681
or warnings for ordinance

5879
03:54:44,681 --> 03:54:46,316
violations. Um, some examples

5880
03:54:46,316 --> 03:54:48,818
would be noise, trash and

5881
03:54:48,818 --> 03:54:50,687
debris or illegal parking. Um,

5882
03:54:50,687 --> 03:54:51,889
within a 12 month period. MAY

5883
03:54:51,889 --> 03:54:54,157
have their zoning compliance

5884
03:54:54,157 --> 03:54:56,626
permit revoked. Um, again, the

5885
03:54:56,626 --> 03:54:59,796
intent is to not be punitive,

5886
03:54:59,796 --> 03:55:02,599
but the intent is to make sure

5887
03:55:02,599 --> 03:55:04,670
that the Airbnb owner operator

5888
03:55:04,670 --> 03:55:04,268
is a good neighbor. And so

5889
03:55:04,268 --> 03:55:04,635
that

5890
03:55:04,635 --> 03:55:05,868
s what we

5891
03:55:05,868 --> 03:55:07,868
re really after.

5892
03:55:09,500 --> 03:55:09,973
Um, it is subject to citations.

5893
03:55:09,973 --> 03:55:10,140
And a little bit further, I

5894
03:55:10,140 --> 03:55:12,420
ll

5895
03:55:12,420 --> 03:55:14,511
tell you, um, the schedule of

5896
03:55:14,511 --> 03:55:17,414
of the the amounts of the

5897
03:55:17,414 --> 03:55:19,216
citations. This is for whole

5898
03:55:19,216 --> 03:55:19,348
house. These are the same ones

5899
03:55:19,348 --> 03:55:21,284
I

5900
03:55:21,284 --> 03:55:21,919
ve went through. So i

5901
03:55:21,919 --> 03:55:23,919
m going

5902
03:55:25,321 --> 03:55:26,890
to jump ahead to whole house

5903
03:55:26,890 --> 03:55:29,580
lodging. So whole house lodging

5904
03:55:29,580 --> 03:55:30,828
means that the owner, the host

5905
03:55:30,828 --> 03:55:31,361
is not on site. So we

5906
03:55:31,361 --> 03:55:33,361
ve added

5907
03:55:34,330 --> 03:55:36,330
two additional requirements.

5908
03:55:37,968 --> 03:55:41,137
Um, if, uh, the person who owns

5909
03:55:41,137 --> 03:55:42,773
or operates, um, the Airbnb

5910
03:55:42,773 --> 03:55:43,390
does not live in Pitt County,

5911
03:55:43,390 --> 03:55:44,140
then they

5912
03:55:44,140 --> 03:55:46,376
re going to designate

5913
03:55:46,376 --> 03:55:48,611
someone in Pitt County who will

5914
03:55:48,611 --> 03:55:50,280
be a local contact. That could

5915
03:55:50,280 --> 03:55:52,115
be a local contact or planning

5916
03:55:52,115 --> 03:55:54,517
staff, local contact for even

5917
03:55:54,517 --> 03:55:57,517
the police department. Um, so

5918
03:55:57,520 --> 03:55:58,922
that that agent can accept any

5919
03:55:58,922 --> 03:56:00,690
kind of issues or complaints

5920
03:56:00,690 --> 03:56:01,892
and be able to respond to them.

5921
03:56:01,892 --> 03:56:03,893
And again, this could be

5922
03:56:03,893 --> 03:56:05,996
something as like an excessive

5923
03:56:05,996 --> 03:56:07,364
amount of parking noise,

5924
03:56:07,364 --> 03:56:07,530
perhaps trash and debris that

5925
03:56:07,530 --> 03:56:09,232
s

5926
03:56:09,232 --> 03:56:11,101
been left in the yard. But

5927
03:56:11,101 --> 03:56:12,936
ideally that would be a local

5928
03:56:12,936 --> 03:56:14,370
contact, easy for us to get in

5929
03:56:14,370 --> 03:56:16,373
contact with than someone

5930
03:56:16,373 --> 03:56:17,640
perhaps in Ohio that MAY not

5931
03:56:17,640 --> 03:56:21,240
have an idea. Any of these

5932
03:56:21,444 --> 03:56:22,212
things are going on again.

5933
03:56:22,212 --> 03:56:23,780
Um.

5934
03:56:23,780 --> 03:56:25,582
We already have the forms and

5935
03:56:25,582 --> 03:56:27,830
everything set up to go so that

5936
03:56:27,830 --> 03:56:27,250
if if this is approved, we

5937
03:56:27,250 --> 03:56:29,250
ll

5938
03:56:29,486 --> 03:56:31,221
be ready to go. So the form,

5939
03:56:31,221 --> 03:56:33,356
um, for the agent is very

5940
03:56:33,356 --> 03:56:35,224
short. It does lay out the

5941
03:56:35,224 --> 03:56:37,930
responsibilities of that agent

5942
03:56:37,930 --> 03:56:38,228
so they understand if they are

5943
03:56:38,228 --> 03:56:39,529
going to be an agent for

5944
03:56:39,529 --> 03:56:40,129
someone. What that means,

5945
03:56:40,129 --> 03:56:40,530
again, that they

5946
03:56:40,530 --> 03:56:41,998
re going to

5947
03:56:41,998 --> 03:56:43,660
have to receive and respond to

5948
03:56:43,660 --> 03:56:44,134
complaints.

5949
03:56:44,134 --> 03:56:46,134
Um.

5950
03:56:46,303 --> 03:56:48,703
This last section basically

5951
03:56:48,906 --> 03:56:50,440
just again, not to be punitive.

5952
03:56:50,440 --> 03:56:53,100
It does give a grace period

5953
03:56:53,100 --> 03:56:54,977
that if you are, uh, you have

5954
03:56:54,977 --> 03:56:55,646
an agent and that agent says,

5955
03:56:55,646 --> 03:56:57,514
actually, I

5956
03:56:57,514 --> 03:56:58,848
m moving to Texas.

5957
03:56:58,848 --> 03:57:00,984
It gives you some time to

5958
03:57:00,984 --> 03:57:04,521
appoint a new agent and get

5959
03:57:04,521 --> 03:57:06,857
their information to us. As far

5960
03:57:06,857 --> 03:57:09,292
as the citations, these are the

5961
03:57:09,292 --> 03:57:11,661
same citations for any kind of

5962
03:57:11,661 --> 03:57:13,696
zoning violation. And that is

5963
03:57:13,696 --> 03:57:16,696
the first violation. Um, is

5964
03:57:17,534 --> 03:57:20,534
$100 a second violation is a

5965
03:57:20,770 --> 03:57:22,770
second violation within 365

5966
03:57:22,973 --> 03:57:26,276
days of the first. That amount

5967
03:57:26,276 --> 03:57:28,711
is 250, and the third, again is

5968
03:57:28,711 --> 03:57:31,347
within 365 days of the first

5969
03:57:31,347 --> 03:57:34,217
violation. And that amount is

5970
03:57:34,217 --> 03:57:35,785
$500. This is the table of

5971
03:57:35,785 --> 03:57:39,255
uses. And so what this is

5972
03:57:39,255 --> 03:57:41,570
showing is that, um, all of the

5973
03:57:41,570 --> 03:57:43,570
districts that allow

5974
03:57:43,226 --> 03:57:43,393
residential, uh, we have added,

5975
03:57:43,393 --> 03:57:44,727
you

5976
03:57:44,727 --> 03:57:45,940
ll see the red piece. So

5977
03:57:45,940 --> 03:57:45,962
that means it

5978
03:57:45,962 --> 03:57:47,598
s a permitted

5979
03:57:47,598 --> 03:57:49,900
use, does not require a special

5980
03:57:49,900 --> 03:57:51,501
use permit. Um, this will be

5981
03:57:51,501 --> 03:57:53,302
for both of those uses. So both

5982
03:57:53,302 --> 03:57:56,902
uses will be allowed in the

5983
03:57:57,173 --> 03:57:57,473
very same districts. In staff

5984
03:57:57,473 --> 03:57:59,420
s

5985
03:57:59,420 --> 03:58:00,277
opinion, the request is in

5986
03:58:00,277 --> 03:58:01,678
compliance with the

5987
03:58:01,678 --> 03:58:03,146
comprehensive plan,

5988
03:58:03,146 --> 03:58:04,881
specifically. Chapter five

5989
03:58:04,881 --> 03:58:06,881
Creating Complete Neighborhoods

5990
03:58:08,510 --> 03:58:09,686
Goal 5.1 strong Existing

5991
03:58:09,686 --> 03:58:10,787
neighborhoods Greenville will

5992
03:58:10,787 --> 03:58:12,255
have strong established

5993
03:58:12,255 --> 03:58:13,823
neighborhoods with the support

5994
03:58:13,823 --> 03:58:15,825
for neighbors, with support for

5995
03:58:15,825 --> 03:58:17,360
neighborhood organizations,

5996
03:58:17,360 --> 03:58:18,828
high quality housing, unique

5997
03:58:18,828 --> 03:58:20,130
character, and robust

5998
03:58:20,130 --> 03:58:21,865
integration with the rest of

5999
03:58:21,865 --> 03:58:23,933
the community. Um. Therefore,

6000
03:58:23,933 --> 03:58:26,333
staff recommends approval. And

6001
03:58:27,103 --> 03:58:28,739
at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning

6002
03:58:28,739 --> 03:58:30,474
and Zoning Commission, the

6003
03:58:30,474 --> 03:58:31,875
Commission voted unanimously to

6004
03:58:31,875 --> 03:58:32,975
recommend approval of the

6005
03:58:32,975 --> 03:58:33,643
request, and I

6006
03:58:33,643 --> 03:58:35,450
ll be happy to

6007
03:58:35,450 --> 03:58:35,378
answer any questions.

6008
03:58:35,378 --> 03:58:36,980
Right.

6009
03:58:36,980 --> 03:58:37,948
Any questions?

6010
03:58:37,948 --> 03:58:38,615
MISS.

6011
03:58:38,615 --> 03:58:40,584
Uh.

6012
03:58:40,584 --> 03:58:42,119
Shante, can you remind me of

6013
03:58:42,119 --> 03:58:43,687
the period of time that an

6014
03:58:43,687 --> 03:58:45,880
owner would have to replace an.

6015
03:58:45,880 --> 03:58:47,880
Agent?

6016
03:58:47,890 --> 03:58:50,890
We have said ten days.

6017
03:58:50,493 --> 03:58:51,994
Ten days? Yes.

6018
03:58:51,994 --> 03:58:53,296
And then you said it was a

6019
03:58:53,296 --> 03:58:54,980
year. They have a year to get

6020
03:58:54,980 --> 03:58:56,498
the permit. This is.

6021
03:58:56,666 --> 03:58:58,802
Past for existing or

6022
03:58:58,802 --> 03:58:59,102
preexisting ones. Yes. And

6023
03:58:59,102 --> 03:58:59,903
again, that

6024
03:58:59,903 --> 03:59:00,970
s probably going to

6025
03:59:00,970 --> 03:59:02,872
take a little bit of word of

6026
03:59:02,872 --> 03:59:03,573
mouth, um, to make people aware

6027
03:59:03,573 --> 03:59:04,107
of that. But we

6028
03:59:04,107 --> 03:59:05,609
ve given a

6029
03:59:05,609 --> 03:59:07,577
grace period of a year.

6030
03:59:07,577 --> 03:59:08,178
Okay. And then I can

6031
03:59:08,178 --> 03:59:10,178
t remember

6032
03:59:10,413 --> 03:59:12,449
if we, uh, finalize this, but

6033
03:59:12,449 --> 03:59:13,450
what was the legality of this?

6034
03:59:13,450 --> 03:59:16,820
I know we had discussed that in

6035
03:59:16,820 --> 03:59:17,654
the workshop.

6036
03:59:17,654 --> 03:59:18,187
The city attorney

6037
03:59:18,187 --> 03:59:19,322
s office is

6038
03:59:19,322 --> 03:59:20,823
of the view that this is a

6039
03:59:20,823 --> 03:59:21,124
legally defensible, and it

6040
03:59:21,124 --> 03:59:22,959
s,

6041
03:59:22,959 --> 03:59:23,393
um, will be in compliance.

6042
03:59:23,393 --> 03:59:24,827
Okay.

6043
03:59:24,827 --> 03:59:25,728
Are there any other peer cities

6044
03:59:25,728 --> 03:59:27,197
that are doing something

6045
03:59:27,197 --> 03:59:27,530
similar to this?

6046
03:59:27,530 --> 03:59:28,364
Yeah, there

6047
03:59:28,364 --> 03:59:29,432
s several cities

6048
03:59:29,432 --> 03:59:30,533
that have a short term

6049
03:59:30,533 --> 03:59:32,301
ordinance, short term rental

6050
03:59:32,301 --> 03:59:32,969
ordinances. Um, Raleigh.

6051
03:59:32,969 --> 03:59:34,804
Asheville.

6052
03:59:34,804 --> 03:59:34,971
So are they similar to what

6053
03:59:34,971 --> 03:59:35,738
we

6054
03:59:35,738 --> 03:59:36,906
re proposing?

6055
03:59:36,906 --> 03:59:37,173
I think Raleigh was very

6056
03:59:37,173 --> 03:59:38,374
similar.

6057
03:59:38,374 --> 03:59:40,374
To. Okay.

6058
03:59:42,110 --> 03:59:42,245
And there has been any case law.

6059
03:59:42,245 --> 03:59:43,447
Nobody

6060
03:59:43,447 --> 03:59:44,481
s tried to sue the city

6061
03:59:44,481 --> 03:59:45,315
over it.

6062
03:59:45,315 --> 03:59:47,500
Well, there hasn

6063
03:59:47,500 --> 03:59:48,652
t been some

6064
03:59:48,652 --> 03:59:50,220
legislation out of litigation

6065
03:59:50,220 --> 03:59:51,387
out of Wilmington dealing with

6066
03:59:51,387 --> 03:59:53,387
the rental registration

6067
03:59:53,589 --> 03:59:54,624
challenge. But, um, we believe

6068
03:59:54,624 --> 03:59:56,793
this is not a rental

6069
03:59:56,793 --> 03:59:57,694
registration program. This is a

6070
03:59:57,694 --> 03:59:58,127
regulation of short term

6071
03:59:58,127 --> 03:59:58,928
rentals, but it

6072
03:59:58,928 --> 04:00:00,797
s not a rental

6073
04:00:00,797 --> 04:00:01,564
registration program. So we

6074
04:00:01,564 --> 04:00:03,964
think this is legally

6075
04:00:04,301 --> 04:00:06,301
defensible. And.

6076
04:00:06,469 --> 04:00:07,537
Um. Can you go back to the

6077
04:00:07,537 --> 04:00:09,537
citations again?

6078
04:00:12,943 --> 04:00:14,943
Sure.

6079
04:00:16,579 --> 04:00:19,316
And this would be, um, a notice

6080
04:00:19,316 --> 04:00:20,683
of violation. So, uh, a parking

6081
04:00:20,683 --> 04:00:22,953
through the police department

6082
04:00:22,953 --> 04:00:24,687
MAY be a little different than

6083
04:00:24,687 --> 04:00:24,854
if it makes its way to us.

6084
04:00:24,854 --> 04:00:26,289
Let

6085
04:00:26,289 --> 04:00:29,525
s say it is a parking

6086
04:00:29,525 --> 04:00:32,161
issue. Um, and we would be

6087
04:00:32,161 --> 04:00:35,761
notified as part of having the

6088
04:00:37,167 --> 04:00:40,167
permits. 123 Main Street had a,

6089
04:00:40,803 --> 04:00:43,473
you know, a kegger, and they

6090
04:00:43,473 --> 04:00:44,807
had 25 cars. And we had to send

6091
04:00:44,807 --> 04:00:46,176
the police out there and have

6092
04:00:46,176 --> 04:00:46,776
them dispersed.

6093
04:00:46,776 --> 04:00:48,244
Sure.

6094
04:00:48,244 --> 04:00:50,446
And then as far as, like the

6095
04:00:50,446 --> 04:00:52,820
complaints are concerned, um,

6096
04:00:52,820 --> 04:00:53,850
are those complaints that are

6097
04:00:53,850 --> 04:00:55,651
sent to directly to the city

6098
04:00:55,651 --> 04:00:57,287
and then the city investigates

6099
04:00:57,287 --> 04:00:58,522
to see if it

6100
04:00:58,522 --> 04:01:00,122
s a legitimate

6101
04:01:00,122 --> 04:01:00,256
complaint. And I guess where

6102
04:01:00,256 --> 04:01:01,724
I

6103
04:01:01,724 --> 04:01:02,391
m going with this is, is that

6104
04:01:02,391 --> 04:01:04,391
each person

6105
04:01:05,929 --> 04:01:07,931
s idea of quiet and

6106
04:01:07,931 --> 04:01:09,366
peaceful is different in their

6107
04:01:09,366 --> 04:01:11,668
and their type of nuisance is

6108
04:01:11,668 --> 04:01:11,834
all always different. So people

6109
04:01:11,834 --> 04:01:12,736
don

6110
04:01:12,736 --> 04:01:13,870
t want to see any of it.

6111
04:01:13,870 --> 04:01:15,271
Some of them could just be

6112
04:01:15,271 --> 04:01:16,239
calling in, complaining just

6113
04:01:16,239 --> 04:01:16,706
because they know what

6114
04:01:16,706 --> 04:01:18,706
s going

6115
04:01:19,309 --> 04:01:19,542
on inside the dwelling and know

6116
04:01:19,542 --> 04:01:20,543
that it

6117
04:01:20,543 --> 04:01:20,710
s something they don

6118
04:01:20,710 --> 04:01:21,878
t

6119
04:01:21,878 --> 04:01:23,413
want to see, but they just

6120
04:01:23,413 --> 04:01:26,616
might be complaining. And so I

6121
04:01:26,616 --> 04:01:27,984
guess my idea is, is I want to

6122
04:01:27,984 --> 04:01:28,517
make sure that whoever

6123
04:01:28,517 --> 04:01:29,618
s making

6124
04:01:29,618 --> 04:01:30,620
the complaint is being vetted

6125
04:01:30,620 --> 04:01:31,388
by the city, and the city can

6126
04:01:31,388 --> 04:01:32,455
go ahead and say, well, this is

6127
04:01:32,455 --> 04:01:32,621
a legitimate complaint. This

6128
04:01:32,621 --> 04:01:33,223
isn

6129
04:01:33,223 --> 04:01:33,356
t just somebody that

6130
04:01:33,356 --> 04:01:34,570
s

6131
04:01:34,570 --> 04:01:34,890
angry and just doesn

6132
04:01:34,890 --> 04:01:36,890
t like

6133
04:01:36,960 --> 04:01:37,927
that particular neighbor and

6134
04:01:37,927 --> 04:01:39,796
their property.

6135
04:01:39,796 --> 04:01:40,563
We deal with that a lot. Again,

6136
04:01:40,563 --> 04:01:42,563
one person

6137
04:01:42,765 --> 04:01:44,670
s tolerance is much

6138
04:01:44,670 --> 04:01:46,669
higher or lower than their

6139
04:01:46,669 --> 04:01:48,872
neighbors. Um, so along with

6140
04:01:48,872 --> 04:01:49,972
the permit, we we have an index

6141
04:01:49,972 --> 04:01:52,709
where we would keep track of

6142
04:01:52,709 --> 04:01:55,511
the properties. Um, that would

6143
04:01:55,511 --> 04:01:56,646
allow, uh, pd or even code

6144
04:01:56,646 --> 04:01:58,114
enforcement to be able to

6145
04:01:58,114 --> 04:02:00,514
cross-reference that. We would

6146
04:02:00,650 --> 04:02:03,520
essentially be the the keeper

6147
04:02:03,520 --> 04:02:04,854
of the information. Someone

6148
04:02:04,854 --> 04:02:06,656
could still go on the city. Uh,

6149
04:02:06,656 --> 04:02:08,891
compass. We would probably need

6150
04:02:08,891 --> 04:02:11,494
to add that as a new issue from

6151
04:02:11,494 --> 04:02:12,662
the dropdown box. And I would

6152
04:02:12,662 --> 04:02:14,897
think that that would probably

6153
04:02:14,897 --> 04:02:17,133
come through planning first.

6154
04:02:17,133 --> 04:02:17,600
Um, if it is more of a of.

6155
04:02:17,600 --> 04:02:19,600
A.

6156
04:02:19,836 --> 04:02:20,737
A lot of parking, let

6157
04:02:20,737 --> 04:02:21,438
s say.

6158
04:02:21,438 --> 04:02:23,438
Um.

6159
04:02:25,542 --> 04:02:26,842
The best solution would be to

6160
04:02:26,842 --> 04:02:27,100
go through pd. Obviously it

6161
04:02:27,100 --> 04:02:29,100
s

6162
04:02:30,413 --> 04:02:31,130
not an emergency, but pd is 24

6163
04:02:31,130 --> 04:02:33,130
hours. We

6164
04:02:34,450 --> 04:02:37,450
re 8 to 5. Um, but it

6165
04:02:38,421 --> 04:02:39,856
will basically the the

6166
04:02:39,856 --> 04:02:41,291
different tentacles will still

6167
04:02:41,291 --> 04:02:42,759
rest within the planning

6168
04:02:42,759 --> 04:02:43,460
department is how it would

6169
04:02:43,460 --> 04:02:45,161
work.

6170
04:02:45,161 --> 04:02:47,290
So and I guess I think of the

6171
04:02:47,290 --> 04:02:47,564
situation where you could have

6172
04:02:47,564 --> 04:02:48,310
a neighbor that

6173
04:02:48,310 --> 04:02:49,566
s just not

6174
04:02:49,566 --> 04:02:51,802
happy. Right. And they find out

6175
04:02:51,802 --> 04:02:53,670
that within a certain amount of

6176
04:02:53,670 --> 04:02:56,700
complaints they could, you

6177
04:02:57,139 --> 04:02:58,174
know, get the, the, the

6178
04:02:58,174 --> 04:02:58,374
neighboring property that

6179
04:02:58,374 --> 04:03:00,760
they

6180
04:03:00,760 --> 04:03:01,711
re not happy with multiple

6181
04:03:01,711 --> 04:03:03,813
citations and potentially get

6182
04:03:03,813 --> 04:03:05,381
them into some legal issues. So

6183
04:03:05,381 --> 04:03:06,683
I guess like my thought is, is

6184
04:03:06,683 --> 04:03:08,718
if the police departments

6185
04:03:08,718 --> 04:03:09,552
called out to, let

6186
04:03:09,552 --> 04:03:11,552
s say, one

6187
04:03:12,210 --> 04:03:13,723
of the short term rentals and

6188
04:03:13,723 --> 04:03:14,824
they just say it was because of

6189
04:03:14,824 --> 04:03:15,225
loud noise, they go out there

6190
04:03:15,225 --> 04:03:15,424
and say it

6191
04:03:15,424 --> 04:03:16,592
s it

6192
04:03:16,592 --> 04:03:18,228
s nothing.

6193
04:03:18,228 --> 04:03:18,928
Well, they call them again. It

6194
04:03:18,928 --> 04:03:19,262
happens again. Let

6195
04:03:19,262 --> 04:03:20,830
s say they

6196
04:03:20,830 --> 04:03:22,799
come out there 4 or 5 times,

6197
04:03:22,799 --> 04:03:23,320
and then the neighbor says, I

6198
04:03:23,320 --> 04:03:24,367
m

6199
04:03:24,367 --> 04:03:26,702
doing all these hypothetical

6200
04:03:26,702 --> 04:03:29,372
things. Um, but this is

6201
04:03:29,372 --> 04:03:30,807
probably a realistic situation.

6202
04:03:30,807 --> 04:03:31,674
Um, they go out there and they

6203
04:03:31,674 --> 04:03:33,176
say, well, they call the

6204
04:03:33,176 --> 04:03:34,477
planning department. Say, well,

6205
04:03:34,477 --> 04:03:35,846
the police have been out there

6206
04:03:35,846 --> 04:03:35,978
five times. You know, I don

6207
04:03:35,978 --> 04:03:36,479
t

6208
04:03:36,479 --> 04:03:36,913
understand why we

6209
04:03:36,913 --> 04:03:38,815
re not doing

6210
04:03:38,815 --> 04:03:40,816
anything with it. How is that

6211
04:03:40,816 --> 04:03:43,987
going to be handled? I guess as

6212
04:03:43,987 --> 04:03:44,153
far as the complaint, because

6213
04:03:44,153 --> 04:03:45,121
it

6214
04:03:45,121 --> 04:03:46,455
s going to be law that the

6215
04:03:46,455 --> 04:03:49,580
police were out there five

6216
04:03:49,580 --> 04:03:50,893
times, but how legitimate were

6217
04:03:50,893 --> 04:03:52,528
those five phone calls as far

6218
04:03:52,528 --> 04:03:53,996
as an actual nuisance, right?

6219
04:03:53,996 --> 04:03:55,999
Well, we would get the

6220
04:03:55,999 --> 04:03:58,367
disposition right. So we would

6221
04:03:58,367 --> 04:04:00,202
know if it was founded, if they

6222
04:04:00,202 --> 04:04:01,604
showed up and it was quiet and

6223
04:04:01,604 --> 04:04:03,507
everyone were being good

6224
04:04:03,507 --> 04:04:04,908
listeners. So we as the

6225
04:04:04,908 --> 04:04:07,430
planning department would have

6226
04:04:07,430 --> 04:04:09,278
some idea. Yes. You have five

6227
04:04:09,278 --> 04:04:10,679
calls for service, but actually

6228
04:04:10,679 --> 04:04:13,516
only one time was there

6229
04:04:13,516 --> 04:04:17,116
actually in an issue. So it

6230
04:04:18,154 --> 04:04:21,357
will put on staff. Um, as

6231
04:04:21,357 --> 04:04:23,757
sometimes there are of

6232
04:04:24,461 --> 04:04:26,195
threading the needle of taking

6233
04:04:26,195 --> 04:04:28,195
those different complaints,

6234
04:04:28,731 --> 04:04:30,900
figuring out which really do

6235
04:04:30,900 --> 04:04:32,335
hit a mark and which of those

6236
04:04:32,335 --> 04:04:33,169
or maybe someone losing

6237
04:04:33,169 --> 04:04:33,703
patience and they

6238
04:04:33,703 --> 04:04:35,703
re calling

6239
04:04:38,641 --> 04:04:40,177
every 15 minutes. Um, so that

6240
04:04:40,177 --> 04:04:41,544
happens in other things as well

6241
04:04:41,544 --> 04:04:42,211
when we get complaints. And

6242
04:04:42,211 --> 04:04:42,612
what do you know, it

6243
04:04:42,612 --> 04:04:44,180
s already

6244
04:04:44,180 --> 04:04:47,550
disappeared by the time that we

6245
04:04:47,550 --> 04:04:49,819
get there. But what will happen

6246
04:04:49,819 --> 04:04:53,550
or what will at least give us

6247
04:04:53,550 --> 04:04:55,258
some way of communicating

6248
04:04:55,258 --> 04:04:55,425
directly is that either we

6249
04:04:55,425 --> 04:04:57,226
ll

6250
04:04:57,226 --> 04:04:58,527
have the person on the permit,

6251
04:04:58,527 --> 04:05:00,960
or we will have a local

6252
04:05:00,960 --> 04:05:01,931
contact, and if that local

6253
04:05:01,931 --> 04:05:02,331
contact says, listen, this is

6254
04:05:02,331 --> 04:05:04,331
my sister

6255
04:05:04,768 --> 04:05:06,502
s place, great. Can

6256
04:05:06,502 --> 04:05:08,237
you tell us who your sister is?

6257
04:05:08,237 --> 04:05:09,872
And that is a way that staff

6258
04:05:09,872 --> 04:05:11,207
can directly communicate with

6259
04:05:11,207 --> 04:05:13,743
someone that we MAY not be able

6260
04:05:13,743 --> 04:05:16,413
to reach. Um, they MAY have a

6261
04:05:16,413 --> 04:05:18,214
run of bad guests, you know,

6262
04:05:18,214 --> 04:05:20,150
and that happens as well. Um,

6263
04:05:20,150 --> 04:05:23,860
but the other thing is that at

6264
04:05:23,860 --> 04:05:25,821
least Verbo and Airbnb have a

6265
04:05:25,821 --> 04:05:27,224
system themselves for if you

6266
04:05:27,224 --> 04:05:29,359
live beside the property and

6267
04:05:29,359 --> 04:05:31,261
you have issues, you can log

6268
04:05:31,261 --> 04:05:33,530
those complaints with Airbnb

6269
04:05:33,530 --> 04:05:33,729
and Verbo as well. Okay, so

6270
04:05:33,729 --> 04:05:35,598
there

6271
04:05:35,598 --> 04:05:39,102
s a couple of things. Is

6272
04:05:39,102 --> 04:05:41,504
is a completely fail safe note.

6273
04:05:41,504 --> 04:05:45,441
And there is going to take, um,

6274
04:05:45,441 --> 04:05:47,143
some, some discretion of how we

6275
04:05:47,143 --> 04:05:47,777
deal with issues that come up.

6276
04:05:47,777 --> 04:05:49,245
Okay.

6277
04:05:49,245 --> 04:05:52,314
Um, and then the other question

6278
04:05:52,314 --> 04:05:55,840
I have to is as far as somebody

6279
04:05:55,840 --> 04:05:56,919
that is in deciding about doing

6280
04:05:56,919 --> 04:05:58,922
like a short term rental, let

6281
04:05:58,922 --> 04:06:01,157
it be one of the two scenarios.

6282
04:06:01,157 --> 04:06:03,126
What is there a penalty if they

6283
04:06:03,126 --> 04:06:04,160
do not file? And I guess my

6284
04:06:04,160 --> 04:06:04,393
thought process is you

6285
04:06:04,393 --> 04:06:06,162
re going

6286
04:06:06,162 --> 04:06:07,964
to have a lot of people that

6287
04:06:07,964 --> 04:06:08,264
have been have not been used to

6288
04:06:08,264 --> 04:06:10,990
it. There

6289
04:06:10,990 --> 04:06:12,350
s never been a filing

6290
04:06:12,350 --> 04:06:14,170
period. What type of penalty

6291
04:06:14,170 --> 04:06:17,170
would be if somebody operating

6292
04:06:17,339 --> 04:06:18,708
one and then staff is notified

6293
04:06:18,708 --> 04:06:20,576
that so-and-so and my

6294
04:06:20,576 --> 04:06:21,210
neighborhood is has an Airbnb

6295
04:06:21,210 --> 04:06:21,544
and you say, well, it

6296
04:06:21,544 --> 04:06:21,944
s not

6297
04:06:21,944 --> 04:06:22,378
logged, we don

6298
04:06:22,378 --> 04:06:23,779
t have them

6299
04:06:23,779 --> 04:06:24,747
there. You send them a letter.

6300
04:06:24,747 --> 04:06:26,820
Is there a penalty or is it

6301
04:06:26,820 --> 04:06:27,350
just a requirement that within

6302
04:06:27,350 --> 04:06:28,418
a certain period of time, they

6303
04:06:28,418 --> 04:06:29,919
need to go ahead and file?

6304
04:06:29,919 --> 04:06:31,620
Yeah. The first letter is

6305
04:06:31,620 --> 04:06:33,556
always this has been brought to

6306
04:06:33,556 --> 04:06:35,992
our attention. Again, we could

6307
04:06:35,992 --> 04:06:38,270
be wrong. You MAY not be an

6308
04:06:38,270 --> 04:06:39,395
Airbnb, but it starts with a

6309
04:06:39,395 --> 04:06:41,731
letter. If you have any

6310
04:06:41,731 --> 04:06:44,131
questions, please contact us.

6311
04:06:44,266 --> 04:06:45,668
Um, and the other. And in these

6312
04:06:45,668 --> 04:06:47,137
cases, we can direct them back

6313
04:06:47,137 --> 04:06:48,538
to the planning site because

6314
04:06:48,538 --> 04:06:49,939
the fillable forms will be

6315
04:06:49,939 --> 04:06:50,140
there and they can go, oh, I

6316
04:06:50,140 --> 04:06:51,140
didn

6317
04:06:51,140 --> 04:06:52,308
t know I was supposed to

6318
04:06:52,308 --> 04:06:53,642
do that. Click, click, click.

6319
04:06:53,642 --> 04:06:56,913
And they send us what they

6320
04:06:56,913 --> 04:06:59,549
need. Um, generally we give

6321
04:06:59,549 --> 04:07:00,116
folks about ten days to respond.

6322
04:07:00,116 --> 04:07:00,816
If we don

6323
04:07:00,816 --> 04:07:00,984
t hear anything,

6324
04:07:00,984 --> 04:07:02,984
we

6325
04:07:06,256 --> 04:07:08,825
ll do a second. And of. We

6326
04:07:08,825 --> 04:07:10,250
can do citations, which is what

6327
04:07:10,250 --> 04:07:12,528
is in front of you. We can do

6328
04:07:12,528 --> 04:07:13,829
that. Schedule of citations.

6329
04:07:13,829 --> 04:07:14,897
Um, but obviously we want to

6330
04:07:14,897 --> 04:07:15,932
make very sure that we are

6331
04:07:15,932 --> 04:07:17,660
actually trying to track a

6332
04:07:17,660 --> 04:07:17,733
short term rental. And it

6333
04:07:17,733 --> 04:07:19,435
s not

6334
04:07:19,435 --> 04:07:22,435
something else. But the very

6335
04:07:22,639 --> 04:07:24,574
first thing would be a nice,

6336
04:07:24,574 --> 04:07:26,750
firm letter. We believe you

6337
04:07:26,750 --> 04:07:27,410
might be operating short term

6338
04:07:27,410 --> 04:07:30,120
rental, and we would need you

6339
04:07:30,120 --> 04:07:32,480
to apply for the permit.

6340
04:07:32,480 --> 04:07:33,282
Final question. I see we got

6341
04:07:33,282 --> 04:07:33,483
first, second and third. What

6342
04:07:33,483 --> 04:07:35,483
s

6343
04:07:36,119 --> 04:07:38,119
the fourth?

6344
04:07:38,755 --> 04:07:39,210
There is, of course, that

6345
04:07:39,210 --> 04:07:39,288
s

6346
04:07:39,288 --> 04:07:40,156
where I

6347
04:07:40,156 --> 04:07:41,924
m going to call MR.

6348
04:07:41,924 --> 04:07:43,692
McGirt and say, MISTER McGirt,

6349
04:07:43,692 --> 04:07:44,493
we do not have a good listener.

6350
04:07:44,493 --> 04:07:44,694
What would we like?

6351
04:07:44,694 --> 04:07:45,610
That

6352
04:07:45,610 --> 04:07:45,328
s that

6353
04:07:45,328 --> 04:07:45,628
s what I

6354
04:07:45,628 --> 04:07:47,290
m going to

6355
04:07:47,290 --> 04:07:48,865
say. And so then I then that

6356
04:07:48,865 --> 04:07:51,670
turns my attention to is, I

6357
04:07:51,670 --> 04:07:53,670
guess, probably revocation

6358
04:07:55,370 --> 04:07:56,872
maybe of a permit. And I guess

6359
04:07:56,872 --> 04:07:59,309
from a legal standpoint, how

6360
04:07:59,309 --> 04:07:59,575
does the city defend removing

6361
04:07:59,575 --> 04:08:00,810
somebody

6362
04:08:00,810 --> 04:08:02,178
s legal permit to be

6363
04:08:02,178 --> 04:08:05,778
able to operate a short term

6364
04:08:06,448 --> 04:08:06,682
rental.? Right. As a property

6365
04:08:06,682 --> 04:08:08,217
owner?

6366
04:08:08,217 --> 04:08:09,952
We could bring a civil action

6367
04:08:09,952 --> 04:08:11,654
to to collect the penalties and

6368
04:08:11,654 --> 04:08:14,654
also bring an injunction action

6369
04:08:15,570 --> 04:08:15,891
to revoke the permit. And, um,

6370
04:08:15,891 --> 04:08:16,893
they will have to cease

6371
04:08:16,893 --> 04:08:17,493
operating if we had a court

6372
04:08:17,493 --> 04:08:19,493
order.

6373
04:08:20,396 --> 04:08:22,598
So but I guess from a legal

6374
04:08:22,598 --> 04:08:24,300
standpoint, how do we where do

6375
04:08:24,300 --> 04:08:24,600
we stand if somebody says,

6376
04:08:24,600 --> 04:08:25,167
well, you

6377
04:08:25,167 --> 04:08:27,102
re taking away my

6378
04:08:27,102 --> 04:08:27,970
property rights by allowing me

6379
04:08:27,970 --> 04:08:29,400
to be able to operate a

6380
04:08:29,400 --> 04:08:32,400
business out of the property

6381
04:08:32,208 --> 04:08:34,577
that I own. Do do we have any

6382
04:08:34,577 --> 04:08:35,912
case law that says that we have

6383
04:08:35,912 --> 04:08:37,130
the right to be able to do

6384
04:08:37,130 --> 04:08:38,414
something like that, where we

6385
04:08:38,414 --> 04:08:40,316
can prevent somebody from

6386
04:08:40,316 --> 04:08:41,784
actually having a rental?

6387
04:08:41,784 --> 04:08:43,152
Well, the case law says that

6388
04:08:43,152 --> 04:08:45,588
cities that have the authority

6389
04:08:45,588 --> 04:08:47,156
to zone to zone buildings and

6390
04:08:47,156 --> 04:08:48,491
land, um, the short term rental

6391
04:08:48,491 --> 04:08:49,791
case that I was talking about

6392
04:08:49,791 --> 04:08:50,827
out of Wilmington, it said that

6393
04:08:50,827 --> 04:08:51,393
they had a Wilmington

6394
04:08:51,393 --> 04:08:52,261
s program

6395
04:08:52,261 --> 04:08:53,262
was illegal because it was a

6396
04:08:53,262 --> 04:08:54,998
rental registration program.

6397
04:08:54,998 --> 04:08:57,133
But the court said that the

6398
04:08:57,133 --> 04:08:58,267
cities could still zone use

6399
04:08:58,267 --> 04:09:00,402
zoning to regulate short term

6400
04:09:00,402 --> 04:09:02,772
rentals. And we drafted this

6401
04:09:02,772 --> 04:09:04,307
ordinance in light of that case

6402
04:09:04,307 --> 04:09:06,175
so we could bring a civil

6403
04:09:06,175 --> 04:09:07,677
action to to revoke the permit

6404
04:09:07,677 --> 04:09:08,844
and cease them from operating.

6405
04:09:08,844 --> 04:09:09,110
So so essentially, there

6406
04:09:09,110 --> 04:09:10,146
s

6407
04:09:10,146 --> 04:09:12,140
nothing I guess it would just

6408
04:09:12,140 --> 04:09:13,683
be if somebody decided to just

6409
04:09:13,683 --> 04:09:15,485
kind of like they could sue for

6410
04:09:15,485 --> 04:09:16,653
any other reason that they

6411
04:09:16,653 --> 04:09:16,886
would establish a case law.

6412
04:09:16,886 --> 04:09:18,387
For it.

6413
04:09:18,387 --> 04:09:18,555
They could try to sue and say,

6414
04:09:18,555 --> 04:09:18,721
we

6415
04:09:18,721 --> 04:09:19,455
re.

6416
04:09:19,455 --> 04:09:20,155
Taking away their.

6417
04:09:20,155 --> 04:09:21,491
Property rights.

6418
04:09:21,491 --> 04:09:23,580
The case law is clear. Cities

6419
04:09:23,580 --> 04:09:25,694
have the authority to his own

6420
04:09:25,694 --> 04:09:27,296
property and to, um, enact

6421
04:09:27,296 --> 04:09:28,397
short term rental zoning

6422
04:09:28,397 --> 04:09:29,398
ordinances as well. You have to

6423
04:09:29,398 --> 04:09:29,798
make sure that it doesn

6424
04:09:29,798 --> 04:09:29,965
t. It

6425
04:09:29,965 --> 04:09:31,200
s

6426
04:09:31,200 --> 04:09:31,801
not a rental registration

6427
04:09:31,801 --> 04:09:32,535
program or it

6428
04:09:32,535 --> 04:09:33,602
s not a down

6429
04:09:33,602 --> 04:09:36,602
zone, but the city has

6430
04:09:36,706 --> 04:09:39,208
authority to to zone. So.

6431
04:09:39,208 --> 04:09:40,676
We can zone. We also can put

6432
04:09:40,676 --> 04:09:42,845
reasonable time, place and

6433
04:09:42,845 --> 04:09:43,120
circumstances restrictions.

6434
04:09:43,120 --> 04:09:44,120
We

6435
04:09:44,120 --> 04:09:45,281
re not taking away their

6436
04:09:45,281 --> 04:09:45,581
property, right. We

6437
04:09:45,581 --> 04:09:46,649
re

6438
04:09:46,649 --> 04:09:46,816
regulating it. And if they

6439
04:09:46,816 --> 04:09:47,416
don

6440
04:09:47,416 --> 04:09:48,184
t comply that

6441
04:09:48,184 --> 04:09:48,785
s on them.

6442
04:09:48,785 --> 04:09:50,850
Right. So we

6443
04:09:50,850 --> 04:09:51,287
re not taking away

6444
04:09:51,287 --> 04:09:51,654
if they comply. Nothing

6445
04:09:51,654 --> 04:09:53,155
s

6446
04:09:53,155 --> 04:09:54,456
taken. I mean they gotta do is

6447
04:09:54,456 --> 04:09:56,325
comply with the and this is

6448
04:09:56,325 --> 04:09:56,492
very reasonable. Probably it

6449
04:09:56,492 --> 04:09:57,660
s

6450
04:09:57,660 --> 04:09:58,427
a lot less than what I would

6451
04:09:58,427 --> 04:09:58,794
like to say, but it

6452
04:09:58,794 --> 04:09:59,495
s a

6453
04:09:59,495 --> 04:09:59,829
starting point.

6454
04:09:59,829 --> 04:10:00,129
Yeah.

6455
04:10:00,129 --> 04:10:00,796
And I

6456
04:10:00,796 --> 04:10:01,130
m not arguing that.

6457
04:10:01,130 --> 04:10:01,664
I just don

6458
04:10:01,664 --> 04:10:01,797
t understand. I

6459
04:10:01,797 --> 04:10:02,331
m

6460
04:10:02,331 --> 04:10:03,733
just saying I.

6461
04:10:03,733 --> 04:10:05,267
Just want to see from the

6462
04:10:05,267 --> 04:10:05,601
situation. If we get into that,

6463
04:10:05,601 --> 04:10:06,350
because you

6464
04:10:06,350 --> 04:10:07,300
ve got a lot of

6465
04:10:07,300 --> 04:10:07,636
people that are operating right

6466
04:10:07,636 --> 04:10:07,936
now, and I

6467
04:10:07,936 --> 04:10:08,137
m sure they

6468
04:10:08,137 --> 04:10:08,971
re not

6469
04:10:08,971 --> 04:10:11,640
going to be real happy about

6470
04:10:11,640 --> 04:10:13,760
the changes and having to to

6471
04:10:13,760 --> 04:10:15,144
register and go through the

6472
04:10:15,144 --> 04:10:16,111
process. And having this. My

6473
04:10:16,111 --> 04:10:17,780
thought is you probably have

6474
04:10:17,780 --> 04:10:18,180
some angry people, and I want

6475
04:10:18,180 --> 04:10:18,948
to make sure it

6476
04:10:18,948 --> 04:10:20,116
s defensible

6477
04:10:20,116 --> 04:10:20,516
from a city standpoint.

6478
04:10:20,516 --> 04:10:20,783
And again, it

6479
04:10:20,783 --> 04:10:21,383
s not a

6480
04:10:21,383 --> 04:10:21,951
registration. It

6481
04:10:21,951 --> 04:10:22,952
s requiring

6482
04:10:22,952 --> 04:10:23,186
them to get a zoning permit.

6483
04:10:23,186 --> 04:10:24,954
And we

6484
04:10:24,954 --> 04:10:26,856
re giving them one year.

6485
04:10:26,856 --> 04:10:28,291
Those existing short term

6486
04:10:28,291 --> 04:10:30,126
rentals are giving, given one

6487
04:10:30,126 --> 04:10:30,526
year to obtain the permit.

6488
04:10:30,526 --> 04:10:32,526
Okay.

6489
04:10:32,561 --> 04:10:33,620
It would be the same thing as a

6490
04:10:33,620 --> 04:10:33,596
homeowner who

6491
04:10:33,596 --> 04:10:34,697
s subject to

6492
04:10:34,697 --> 04:10:35,498
nuisance. We have a nuisance

6493
04:10:35,498 --> 04:10:37,320
ordinance in the city of

6494
04:10:37,320 --> 04:10:38,340
Greenville that has homeowners

6495
04:10:38,340 --> 04:10:38,200
or people who live in a home.

6496
04:10:38,200 --> 04:10:39,969
We

6497
04:10:39,969 --> 04:10:40,135
re all subject to, and so

6498
04:10:40,135 --> 04:10:40,737
it

6499
04:10:40,737 --> 04:10:41,370
s no different. We

6500
04:10:41,370 --> 04:10:41,771
re just

6501
04:10:41,771 --> 04:10:41,937
putting in here like you

6502
04:10:41,937 --> 04:10:43,706
re

6503
04:10:43,706 --> 04:10:45,107
subject to these types of

6504
04:10:45,107 --> 04:10:45,942
violations. If you don

6505
04:10:45,942 --> 04:10:47,942
t run

6506
04:10:48,343 --> 04:10:48,511
your business appropriately. I

6507
04:10:48,511 --> 04:10:50,460
don

6508
04:10:50,460 --> 04:10:50,946
t see any problem with it

6509
04:10:50,946 --> 04:10:52,214
from a standpoint, because I

6510
04:10:52,214 --> 04:10:53,490
look into this pretty heavily.

6511
04:10:53,490 --> 04:10:53,449
I mean, I think it

6512
04:10:53,449 --> 04:10:54,951
s a good

6513
04:10:54,951 --> 04:10:55,784
starting point, and maybe we

6514
04:10:55,784 --> 04:10:56,185
can even look further down the

6515
04:10:56,185 --> 04:10:56,819
road, but I don

6516
04:10:56,819 --> 04:10:58,870
t see any legal

6517
04:10:58,870 --> 04:10:58,321
problems with it in terms of

6518
04:10:58,321 --> 04:10:58,955
what we

6519
04:10:58,955 --> 04:10:59,188
ve done, because it

6520
04:10:59,188 --> 04:11:00,856
s

6521
04:11:00,856 --> 04:11:01,891
so minor and it puts the onus

6522
04:11:01,891 --> 04:11:02,524
on them that you

6523
04:11:02,524 --> 04:11:03,860
re only paying

6524
04:11:03,860 --> 04:11:06,280
any fees or anything if you

6525
04:11:06,280 --> 04:11:07,530
violate what are typically

6526
04:11:07,530 --> 04:11:07,796
reasonable standards. It

6527
04:11:07,796 --> 04:11:09,796
s a

6528
04:11:09,899 --> 04:11:11,867
nuisance and and use of drugs

6529
04:11:11,867 --> 04:11:13,569
or controlled substances or

6530
04:11:13,569 --> 04:11:15,400
noise ordinances and parking

6531
04:11:15,400 --> 04:11:17,404
violations that we regulated

6532
04:11:17,707 --> 04:11:21,770
for centuries in this city are

6533
04:11:21,770 --> 04:11:21,977
not centuries, but a long time.

6534
04:11:21,977 --> 04:11:22,945
Thank you, MR. Attorney.

6535
04:11:22,945 --> 04:11:23,780
Thank you, MR. Attorney. You

6536
04:11:23,780 --> 04:11:23,979
re

6537
04:11:23,979 --> 04:11:25,647
welcome.

6538
04:11:25,647 --> 04:11:26,882
I had the same questions, but

6539
04:11:26,882 --> 04:11:29,418
it was from the other end of

6540
04:11:29,418 --> 04:11:31,154
the spectrum that if somebody

6541
04:11:31,154 --> 04:11:32,540
consistently violates, you

6542
04:11:32,540 --> 04:11:33,756
know, what would happen

6543
04:11:33,756 --> 04:11:35,558
because, you know, it affects

6544
04:11:35,558 --> 04:11:38,393
citizens quality of life. So

6545
04:11:38,393 --> 04:11:39,595
that was where my concern was,

6546
04:11:39,595 --> 04:11:40,729
is what would happen at that

6547
04:11:40,729 --> 04:11:42,765
point. So I appreciate you

6548
04:11:42,765 --> 04:11:43,533
answering that question.

6549
04:11:43,533 --> 04:11:45,167
All right.

6550
04:11:45,167 --> 04:11:45,401
And then, uh, did you say that

6551
04:11:45,401 --> 04:11:46,469
we don

6552
04:11:46,469 --> 04:11:48,137
t know the exact

6553
04:11:48,137 --> 04:11:49,538
location of all short term

6554
04:11:49,538 --> 04:11:51,538
rentals?

6555
04:11:52,441 --> 04:11:54,977
Yeah. The website that we used

6556
04:11:54,977 --> 04:11:57,913
is more of a more of a website

6557
04:11:57,913 --> 04:11:59,115
for an investor, but we were

6558
04:11:59,115 --> 04:12:00,516
able to download that

6559
04:12:00,516 --> 04:12:01,751
information. Some of the

6560
04:12:01,751 --> 04:12:02,818
things, some of the properties

6561
04:12:02,818 --> 04:12:04,152
we were able to identify,

6562
04:12:04,152 --> 04:12:05,988
because people actually put the

6563
04:12:05,988 --> 04:12:06,155
picture of the house on it. So

6564
04:12:06,155 --> 04:12:06,722
we

6565
04:12:06,722 --> 04:12:07,790
re like, oh, that

6566
04:12:07,790 --> 04:12:09,458
s the one.

6567
04:12:09,458 --> 04:12:09,625
Some, for whatever reason,

6568
04:12:09,625 --> 04:12:10,492
don

6569
04:12:10,492 --> 04:12:12,270
t put the picture out of

6570
04:12:12,270 --> 04:12:14,396
the house. So the pen just sort

6571
04:12:14,396 --> 04:12:17,320
of sits in the middle of the

6572
04:12:17,320 --> 04:12:18,734
street. So we have a pen, we

6573
04:12:18,734 --> 04:12:20,837
know about where it is so we

6574
04:12:20,837 --> 04:12:22,400
can put it together. But but

6575
04:12:22,400 --> 04:12:23,873
some of them are a little

6576
04:12:23,873 --> 04:12:25,641
fuzzier. Um, so we had to do

6577
04:12:25,641 --> 04:12:27,309
some sleuthing of our own to

6578
04:12:27,309 --> 04:12:29,144
try to, uh, take out some of

6579
04:12:29,144 --> 04:12:29,945
the static.

6580
04:12:29,945 --> 04:12:31,747
So let

6581
04:12:31,747 --> 04:12:32,648
s say potentially for

6582
04:12:32,648 --> 04:12:32,815
one of the properties that we

6583
04:12:32,815 --> 04:12:33,682
don

6584
04:12:33,682 --> 04:12:36,682
t know the exact location

6585
04:12:36,852 --> 04:12:38,454
of when the 365 day mark, uh,

6586
04:12:38,454 --> 04:12:40,722
comes across, how are we going

6587
04:12:40,722 --> 04:12:41,924
to ensure that all short term

6588
04:12:41,924 --> 04:12:42,910
rentals are in compliance if we

6589
04:12:42,910 --> 04:12:43,292
don

6590
04:12:43,292 --> 04:12:44,126
t know the exact locations?

6591
04:12:44,126 --> 04:12:47,129
Or is it going to be like an

6592
04:12:47,129 --> 04:12:48,731
honor system for the operators?

6593
04:12:48,731 --> 04:12:51,633
Somewhat of an honor system,

6594
04:12:51,633 --> 04:12:52,734
but also we as a staff will

6595
04:12:52,734 --> 04:12:54,636
still have to keep track

6596
04:12:54,636 --> 04:12:56,710
because you come you you could

6597
04:12:56,710 --> 04:12:58,400
have some people who fall out

6598
04:12:58,400 --> 04:12:58,207
of the market who decide they

6599
04:12:58,207 --> 04:12:59,774
don

6600
04:12:59,774 --> 04:13:02,211
t want to do it anymore,

6601
04:13:02,211 --> 04:13:04,580
but, you know, we did this

6602
04:13:04,580 --> 04:13:07,984
about a year or so ago. I think

6603
04:13:07,984 --> 04:13:10,219
we added maybe 80 more units

6604
04:13:10,219 --> 04:13:11,954
since that time. So it will

6605
04:13:11,954 --> 04:13:14,756
constantly be where staff will

6606
04:13:14,756 --> 04:13:16,158
have to go in harvest as do as

6607
04:13:16,158 --> 04:13:18,860
best as we can. And some of

6608
04:13:18,860 --> 04:13:21,364
them MAY be, um, from phone

6609
04:13:21,364 --> 04:13:21,530
calls and someone reporting.

6610
04:13:21,530 --> 04:13:23,530
It

6611
04:13:25,101 --> 04:13:27,536
s an Airbnb. Okay, so it is

6612
04:13:27,536 --> 04:13:29,710
not a perfect science. Uh,

6613
04:13:29,710 --> 04:13:29,771
Airbnb again, doesn

6614
04:13:29,771 --> 04:13:31,600
t require

6615
04:13:31,600 --> 04:13:32,575
you to put the picture of the

6616
04:13:32,575 --> 04:13:34,977
property because that is a

6617
04:13:34,977 --> 04:13:37,480
security issue. So it will be a

6618
04:13:37,480 --> 04:13:37,946
little sleuthing on our side as

6619
04:13:37,946 --> 04:13:39,281
well.

6620
04:13:39,281 --> 04:13:40,148
So some properties could

6621
04:13:40,148 --> 04:13:40,749
potentially slip through the

6622
04:13:40,749 --> 04:13:41,484
cracks, which is.

6623
04:13:41,484 --> 04:13:43,484
That.

6624
04:13:48,356 --> 04:13:49,792
Well, yes. However, um, if they

6625
04:13:49,792 --> 04:13:50,258
are good listeners, we MAY not

6626
04:13:50,258 --> 04:13:51,327
know that they

6627
04:13:51,327 --> 04:13:51,527
re there. And

6628
04:13:51,527 --> 04:13:53,527
that

6629
04:13:54,297 --> 04:13:55,931
s the intention is to be a

6630
04:13:55,931 --> 04:13:57,931
good neighbor.

6631
04:13:58,401 --> 04:14:00,302
And then one more question. Do

6632
04:14:00,302 --> 04:14:01,436
they how often does the permit

6633
04:14:01,436 --> 04:14:03,839
need to be renewed? Is it every

6634
04:14:03,839 --> 04:14:05,374
year. One time, just one time?

6635
04:14:05,374 --> 04:14:05,641
Did we say that I can

6636
04:14:05,641 --> 04:14:06,775
t

6637
04:14:06,775 --> 04:14:08,878
remember. Did we say the the

6638
04:14:08,878 --> 04:14:09,612
amount for the permit? Is there

6639
04:14:09,612 --> 04:14:10,450
amount?

6640
04:14:10,450 --> 04:14:10,746
Uh.

6641
04:14:10,746 --> 04:14:11,447
We have not. It

6642
04:14:11,447 --> 04:14:13,847
s not in the

6643
04:14:13,882 --> 04:14:16,282
manual of fees. So.

6644
04:14:18,588 --> 04:14:20,560
That was about. Okay.

6645
04:14:20,560 --> 04:14:22,240
I mean is it something that we

6646
04:14:22,240 --> 04:14:23,191
should have, you know, you have

6647
04:14:23,191 --> 04:14:24,726
to renew every year so we can

6648
04:14:24,726 --> 04:14:26,928
keep better track of which ones

6649
04:14:26,928 --> 04:14:28,998
are still operating and which

6650
04:14:28,998 --> 04:14:30,399
ones are new.

6651
04:14:30,399 --> 04:14:32,735
That would be something for the

6652
04:14:32,735 --> 04:14:34,203
whole council to to think

6653
04:14:34,203 --> 04:14:36,105
about. We have just put it as

6654
04:14:36,105 --> 04:14:37,390
a, as a one time permit.

6655
04:14:37,390 --> 04:14:37,873
I think, I think one of our

6656
04:14:37,873 --> 04:14:38,674
attorneys over here has

6657
04:14:38,674 --> 04:14:40,242
something to say. MISTER,

6658
04:14:40,242 --> 04:14:41,377
MISTER Birch.

6659
04:14:41,377 --> 04:14:42,110
What up, MISTER Birch?

6660
04:14:42,110 --> 04:14:44,110
The answer to.

6661
04:14:44,246 --> 04:14:45,448
That would be no. Um, because

6662
04:14:45,448 --> 04:14:46,916
that would be. Tantamount to

6663
04:14:46,916 --> 04:14:47,115
the registration.

6664
04:14:47,115 --> 04:14:49,115
Yeah.

6665
04:14:49,317 --> 04:14:50,986
And in order to be compliant

6666
04:14:50,986 --> 04:14:52,855
with state law, we would need

6667
04:14:52,855 --> 04:14:55,724
to avoid that. And the way to

6668
04:14:55,724 --> 04:14:58,160
do that is, at one time, um,

6669
04:14:58,160 --> 04:14:58,794
uh, registration or one.

6670
04:14:58,794 --> 04:14:59,940
But using that.

6671
04:14:59,940 --> 04:15:01,630
Word, don

6672
04:15:01,630 --> 04:15:01,430
t say that. Yeah.

6673
04:15:01,430 --> 04:15:02,131
Perfect.

6674
04:15:02,131 --> 04:15:04,131
Thank you.

6675
04:15:04,900 --> 04:15:07,360
Yeah. I appreciate how tactful

6676
04:15:07,360 --> 04:15:08,700
MISS Gooby is. The reality of

6677
04:15:08,700 --> 04:15:09,571
it is, is our our code of

6678
04:15:09,571 --> 04:15:11,339
ordinances is about six inches

6679
04:15:11,339 --> 04:15:12,730
thick. And we have individuals

6680
04:15:12,730 --> 04:15:13,675
that are violating those

6681
04:15:13,675 --> 04:15:15,277
ordinances every single day.

6682
04:15:15,277 --> 04:15:17,379
And if you have bad neighbors

6683
04:15:17,379 --> 04:15:18,280
out there, uh, our experience

6684
04:15:18,280 --> 04:15:18,914
has been we

6685
04:15:18,914 --> 04:15:20,149
re going to know

6686
04:15:20,149 --> 04:15:21,617
about it.

6687
04:15:21,617 --> 04:15:24,853
You find out sooner or later.

6688
04:15:24,853 --> 04:15:26,788
Yes. All right. If no other

6689
04:15:26,788 --> 04:15:28,757
questions, public hearing is

6690
04:15:28,757 --> 04:15:29,691
now open. Those who speak on

6691
04:15:29,691 --> 04:15:30,459
behalf of applicant MAY come

6692
04:15:30,459 --> 04:15:31,293
forward. Please state your name

6693
04:15:31,293 --> 04:15:32,394
for the record, first person

6694
04:15:32,394 --> 04:15:35,394
has ten minutes. All others

6695
04:15:44,973 --> 04:15:45,641
have three minutes.

6696
04:15:45,641 --> 04:15:46,409
Hello?

6697
04:15:46,409 --> 04:15:48,409
Hello.

6698
04:15:48,978 --> 04:15:50,779
Uh. Good evening Council. I am

6699
04:15:50,779 --> 04:15:52,481
Venus Diamond. I have been a

6700
04:15:52,481 --> 04:15:53,883
resident of Greenville for two

6701
04:15:53,883 --> 04:15:55,450
and a half years. Resident of

6702
04:15:55,450 --> 04:15:57,620
North Carolina for eight years.

6703
04:15:57,620 --> 04:15:58,354
Um, I would like to show my

6704
04:15:58,354 --> 04:16:00,122
appreciation for this

6705
04:16:00,122 --> 04:16:01,490
ordinance. I think this is a

6706
04:16:01,490 --> 04:16:04,126
very good step, and I would

6707
04:16:04,126 --> 04:16:05,260
like to see. I loved your

6708
04:16:05,260 --> 04:16:07,263
comment about wanting to see

6709
04:16:07,263 --> 04:16:08,964
more pushes. Um, I would love

6710
04:16:08,964 --> 04:16:10,666
to see more pushes, uh, and

6711
04:16:10,666 --> 04:16:12,801
more restrictions on Airbnbs

6712
04:16:12,801 --> 04:16:14,670
and other short term leases. I

6713
04:16:14,670 --> 04:16:15,971
think as a whole, this is going

6714
04:16:15,971 --> 04:16:17,539
to be very good for the

6715
04:16:17,539 --> 04:16:18,707
community, especially given a

6716
04:16:18,707 --> 04:16:20,809
time where the housing market

6717
04:16:20,809 --> 04:16:22,244
is inflating way more than it

6718
04:16:22,244 --> 04:16:24,246
should be. And at the same

6719
04:16:24,246 --> 04:16:26,215
time, uh, I think this would

6720
04:16:26,215 --> 04:16:28,830
potentially bring down a lot

6721
04:16:28,830 --> 04:16:29,618
of, you know, the threshold for

6722
04:16:29,618 --> 04:16:31,821
people to be able to rent or,

6723
04:16:31,821 --> 04:16:32,588
you know, mortgage in the city.

6724
04:16:32,588 --> 04:16:34,588
Um, I

6725
04:16:35,958 --> 04:16:37,692
m sorry. Um, this would

6726
04:16:37,692 --> 04:16:39,160
also bring more business to our

6727
04:16:39,160 --> 04:16:40,429
local hotel industry, which

6728
04:16:40,429 --> 04:16:42,698
would be very nice for us to

6729
04:16:42,698 --> 04:16:44,967
have. Um, though I would like

6730
04:16:44,967 --> 04:16:46,936
to see more pushes, uh, notably

6731
04:16:46,936 --> 04:16:49,805
in a lot of the zoning, such as

6732
04:16:49,805 --> 04:16:51,673
r6, which does include a lot of

6733
04:16:51,673 --> 04:16:53,942
apartments. And I feel like if

6734
04:16:53,942 --> 04:16:55,344
that is included, it does run

6735
04:16:55,344 --> 04:16:57,646
the risk of somebody

6736
04:16:57,646 --> 04:16:59,949
potentially using an Airbnb to

6737
04:16:59,949 --> 04:17:00,849
try to undercut our hotels. And

6738
04:17:00,849 --> 04:17:03,652
I know there are a lot of

6739
04:17:03,652 --> 04:17:05,787
people, particularly people in

6740
04:17:05,787 --> 04:17:07,622
Greenville Power, who can

6741
04:17:07,622 --> 04:17:07,956
utilize this if they. So please

6742
04:17:07,956 --> 04:17:09,391
not. I

6743
04:17:09,391 --> 04:17:11,460
m saying anybody will,

6744
04:17:11,460 --> 04:17:14,329
but it is a possibility that

6745
04:17:14,329 --> 04:17:16,498
could be worrying. But as a

6746
04:17:16,498 --> 04:17:18,330
whole, I like this ordinance.

6747
04:17:18,330 --> 04:17:20,736
This, uh, feels like it will be

6748
04:17:20,736 --> 04:17:23,736
good, uh, for the community.

6749
04:17:24,500 --> 04:17:27,750
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

6750
04:17:27,750 --> 04:17:28,543
Anyone else would like to speak

6751
04:17:28,543 --> 04:17:29,445
on behalf of the applicant MAY

6752
04:17:29,445 --> 04:17:31,213
come forward. Please state your

6753
04:17:31,213 --> 04:17:34,813
name for the record. You have

6754
04:17:42,900 --> 04:17:43,158
three minutes. See none. Those

6755
04:17:43,158 --> 04:17:43,892
in opposition to the applicant

6756
04:17:43,892 --> 04:17:44,693
MAY come forward. Please state

6757
04:17:44,693 --> 04:17:45,894
your name for the record. First

6758
04:17:45,894 --> 04:17:48,894
person has ten minutes. All

6759
04:17:58,607 --> 04:17:59,675
others have three minutes. See,

6760
04:17:59,675 --> 04:18:00,742
now the public hearing is now

6761
04:18:00,742 --> 04:18:02,644
closed. And for board

6762
04:18:02,644 --> 04:18:05,614
discussion or motion. Motion to

6763
04:18:05,614 --> 04:18:07,216
approve. Second motion was made

6764
04:18:07,216 --> 04:18:10,216
by Council member Hardy. Second

6765
04:18:10,385 --> 04:18:13,688
by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Any

6766
04:18:13,688 --> 04:18:15,124
other discussion? All those in

6767
04:18:15,124 --> 04:18:16,257
favor say aye. Aye. Those

6768
04:18:16,257 --> 04:18:18,257
opposed say nay.

6769
04:18:18,260 --> 04:18:20,296
Motion passes five zero.

6770
04:18:20,296 --> 04:18:21,229
Move on to item number ten. Our

6771
04:18:21,229 --> 04:18:22,364
final public hearing.

6772
04:18:22,364 --> 04:18:23,798
Thank you. Mayor. Item number

6773
04:18:23,798 --> 04:18:25,000
ten. Ordinance requested by the

6774
04:18:25,000 --> 04:18:27,000
Community and Development

6775
04:18:27,202 --> 04:18:27,969
Services Department to clarify

6776
04:18:27,969 --> 04:18:29,771
the required number of

6777
04:18:29,771 --> 04:18:31,706
professional security personnel

6778
04:18:31,706 --> 04:18:33,706
and alcohol establishments.

6779
04:18:35,143 --> 04:18:36,845
Bah. Bar 2022. Microbrewery and

6780
04:18:36,845 --> 04:18:39,245
micro distillery that provide

6781
04:18:39,648 --> 04:18:41,648
amplified entertainment. After

6782
04:18:41,716 --> 04:18:42,951
11 P.M. Again, call forward or

6783
04:18:42,951 --> 04:18:45,351
Assistant Director Shanti Gubbi

6784
04:18:47,856 --> 04:18:49,725
for the presentation.

6785
04:18:49,725 --> 04:18:52,193
Hopefully this is very short.

6786
04:18:52,193 --> 04:18:52,861
Uh, this is just an item to

6787
04:18:52,861 --> 04:18:53,896
clarify, we

6788
04:18:53,896 --> 04:18:56,165
ve kind of talked

6789
04:18:56,165 --> 04:18:57,733
about this a little bit. Um,

6790
04:18:57,733 --> 04:18:59,768
this first deals with what

6791
04:18:59,768 --> 04:19:01,768
staff considers alcohol

6792
04:19:02,204 --> 04:19:03,380
establishments. Um, we have or

6793
04:19:03,380 --> 04:19:04,606
excuse me, we have four

6794
04:19:04,606 --> 04:19:06,608
different uses in the city that

6795
04:19:06,608 --> 04:19:09,440
we, um, sort of categorize

6796
04:19:09,440 --> 04:19:12,644
under that umbrella. Um, a bar

6797
04:19:12,848 --> 04:19:14,483
bar, 2022 microbrewery, micro

6798
04:19:14,483 --> 04:19:15,918
distillery, um, primary

6799
04:19:15,918 --> 04:19:17,918
activity, obviously cell

6800
04:19:18,386 --> 04:19:19,888
consumption of alcohol on site.

6801
04:19:19,888 --> 04:19:21,156
All of these establishments

6802
04:19:21,156 --> 04:19:22,591
have the ability to have a

6803
04:19:22,591 --> 04:19:23,591
mixed beverage permit a little

6804
04:19:23,591 --> 04:19:26,462
different than just wine and

6805
04:19:26,462 --> 04:19:28,196
beer. Um, in MAY of this year,

6806
04:19:28,196 --> 04:19:30,732
city staff brought a text

6807
04:19:30,732 --> 04:19:33,100
amendment to clarify the number

6808
04:19:33,100 --> 04:19:35,401
of, um, professional security

6809
04:19:35,537 --> 04:19:37,772
personnel that are required at

6810
04:19:37,772 --> 04:19:39,772
alcohol establishments with,

6811
04:19:39,808 --> 04:19:41,808
uh, amplified entertainment

6812
04:19:41,876 --> 04:19:44,380
after 11 P.M., so it only

6813
04:19:44,380 --> 04:19:45,480
counts after 11 P.M.. Um, at

6814
04:19:45,480 --> 04:19:47,382
that meeting, there was some

6815
04:19:47,382 --> 04:19:49,840
discussion that requiring

6816
04:19:49,840 --> 04:19:51,252
security personnel MAY be

6817
04:19:51,252 --> 04:19:53,220
burdensome, um, to small

6818
04:19:53,220 --> 04:19:54,756
businesses. After there was

6819
04:19:54,756 --> 04:19:56,825
some discussion staffs bringing

6820
04:19:56,825 --> 04:19:59,527
this back, um, with the text

6821
04:19:59,527 --> 04:20:01,329
amendment and it same version

6822
04:20:01,329 --> 04:20:03,729
as far as amplified

6823
04:20:03,765 --> 04:20:05,967
entertainment or udo says

6824
04:20:05,967 --> 04:20:07,967
amplified entertainment shall

6825
04:20:07,970 --> 04:20:09,537
shall mean any type of music or

6826
04:20:09,537 --> 04:20:11,139
other entertainment delivered

6827
04:20:11,139 --> 04:20:12,574
through and by an electronic

6828
04:20:12,574 --> 04:20:15,100
system. So that could be music.

6829
04:20:15,100 --> 04:20:18,414
It could be bingo. So the

6830
04:20:18,414 --> 04:20:19,948
proposed language again, is

6831
04:20:19,948 --> 04:20:20,448
based on the occupancy of the

6832
04:20:20,448 --> 04:20:21,149
building. So it

6833
04:20:21,149 --> 04:20:22,283
s not based on

6834
04:20:22,283 --> 04:20:24,519
the number of people that are

6835
04:20:24,519 --> 04:20:25,654
there at that night. And so

6836
04:20:25,654 --> 04:20:29,240
what this says is if you have

6837
04:20:29,240 --> 04:20:31,326
an occupancy between 1 and 200,

6838
04:20:31,326 --> 04:20:32,794
you will have two security

6839
04:20:32,794 --> 04:20:35,263
personnel required to be on

6840
04:20:35,263 --> 04:20:37,660
site. And then for every 100

6841
04:20:37,660 --> 04:20:39,701
people, essentially you add one

6842
04:20:39,701 --> 04:20:42,701
more person. So 2 to 300 would

6843
04:20:42,804 --> 04:20:46,107
be three. Um, and then it goes

6844
04:20:46,107 --> 04:20:48,710
a bit further to say, um, again

6845
04:20:48,710 --> 04:20:50,110
after 11 P.M., um shall employ

6846
04:20:50,110 --> 04:20:51,913
no less than two security

6847
04:20:51,913 --> 04:20:53,549
guards in order for one

6848
04:20:53,549 --> 04:20:54,950
security guard to be inside,

6849
04:20:54,950 --> 04:20:57,452
and then one security guard to

6850
04:20:57,452 --> 04:20:58,387
be able to patrol private

6851
04:20:58,387 --> 04:20:58,654
parking lot. So if they

6852
04:20:58,654 --> 04:20:59,421
re

6853
04:20:59,421 --> 04:20:59,554
downtown and they don

6854
04:20:59,554 --> 04:21:01,456
t

6855
04:21:01,456 --> 04:21:02,758
actually have a parking lot,

6856
04:21:02,758 --> 04:21:05,758
then both of the security

6857
04:21:05,894 --> 04:21:06,595
personnel can be inside. Um,

6858
04:21:06,595 --> 04:21:07,562
and then staff

6859
04:21:07,562 --> 04:21:09,562
s opinion this

6860
04:21:09,731 --> 04:21:11,800
request is in compliance with

6861
04:21:11,800 --> 04:21:13,335
the comprehensive plan. Uh,

6862
04:21:13,335 --> 04:21:15,735
chapter four, Growing the

6863
04:21:15,871 --> 04:21:18,574
Economic hub, which is goal

6864
04:21:18,574 --> 04:21:20,141
4.3, modernize and Diversify

6865
04:21:20,141 --> 04:21:21,476
the local economy. Support the

6866
04:21:21,476 --> 04:21:22,810
growth of a variety of

6867
04:21:22,810 --> 04:21:24,312
employment opportunities and

6868
04:21:24,312 --> 04:21:24,612
businesses that diversify

6869
04:21:24,612 --> 04:21:26,248
Greenville

6870
04:21:26,248 --> 04:21:27,949
s economy. Provide

6871
04:21:27,949 --> 04:21:29,117
workers with a range of skill

6872
04:21:29,117 --> 04:21:30,251
sets and training, and

6873
04:21:30,251 --> 04:21:32,860
encourage business growth

6874
04:21:32,860 --> 04:21:33,550
within the incorporated areas

6875
04:21:33,550 --> 04:21:34,189
and diversify Greenville

6876
04:21:34,189 --> 04:21:35,758
s tax

6877
04:21:35,758 --> 04:21:37,626
base. And then further, we also

6878
04:21:37,626 --> 04:21:39,610
have a second one in here. This

6879
04:21:39,610 --> 04:21:40,862
is from chapter one. And this

6880
04:21:40,862 --> 04:21:43,862
is growing the economic hub.

6881
04:21:44,232 --> 04:21:46,340
1.4 a vibrant uptown support

6882
04:21:46,340 --> 04:21:46,668
and control uptown nightlife.

6883
04:21:46,668 --> 04:21:47,469
Uptown is Greenville

6884
04:21:47,469 --> 04:21:49,469
s vibrant

6885
04:21:49,704 --> 04:21:51,139
and walkable nightlife district

6886
04:21:51,139 --> 04:21:52,841
that supports a variety of high

6887
04:21:52,841 --> 04:21:54,676
quality, responsible drinking

6888
04:21:54,676 --> 04:21:55,977
and restaurant establishments.

6889
04:21:55,977 --> 04:21:57,245
A thriving nightlife that can

6890
04:21:57,245 --> 04:21:58,813
attract and retain young

6891
04:21:58,813 --> 04:22:00,615
professionals that, in turn,

6892
04:22:00,615 --> 04:22:02,117
attract high quality employers.

6893
04:22:02,117 --> 04:22:03,284
This does not mean nightlife

6894
04:22:03,284 --> 04:22:04,519
activities need to be allowed

6895
04:22:04,519 --> 04:22:06,540
to run out of control.

6896
04:22:06,540 --> 04:22:07,789
Appropriate standards for these

6897
04:22:07,789 --> 04:22:10,159
businesses should be enforced

6898
04:22:10,159 --> 04:22:12,260
so that uptown can be enjoyed

6899
04:22:12,260 --> 04:22:13,462
safely and responsible.

6900
04:22:13,462 --> 04:22:15,230
Therefore, staff recommends

6901
04:22:15,230 --> 04:22:16,598
approval of the proposed

6902
04:22:16,598 --> 04:22:17,399
amendment. This one

6903
04:22:17,399 --> 04:22:19,399
s a little

6904
04:22:19,701 --> 04:22:21,903
different. Uh, at the JULY

6905
04:22:21,903 --> 04:22:23,738
21st, 2026 Planning and Zoning

6906
04:22:23,738 --> 04:22:26,108
Commission, um, they voted

6907
04:22:26,108 --> 04:22:27,542
unanimously with a motion. Um,

6908
04:22:27,542 --> 04:22:30,278
but the motion had a little

6909
04:22:30,278 --> 04:22:32,147
tweak to it. So they, uh, did

6910
04:22:32,147 --> 04:22:33,949
recommend approval, but they

6911
04:22:33,949 --> 04:22:35,717
went further and said while the

6912
04:22:35,717 --> 04:22:37,151
commission, um, did recommend

6913
04:22:37,151 --> 04:22:38,487
approval of the amendment,

6914
04:22:38,487 --> 04:22:40,870
there was language included in

6915
04:22:40,870 --> 04:22:42,230
the motion that there should be

6916
04:22:42,230 --> 04:22:43,591
consideration given to the

6917
04:22:43,591 --> 04:22:45,160
economic impact on small

6918
04:22:45,160 --> 04:22:47,829
businesses to consider the use

6919
04:22:47,829 --> 04:22:49,931
of bouncers as a substitute for

6920
04:22:49,931 --> 04:22:51,366
professional security personnel.

6921
04:22:51,366 --> 04:22:52,330
And with that, I

6922
04:22:52,330 --> 04:22:53,534
ll be glad to

6923
04:22:53,534 --> 04:22:54,803
answer any questions.

6924
04:22:54,803 --> 04:22:56,304
Any questions?

6925
04:22:56,304 --> 04:22:59,304
One question on your proposed

6926
04:23:01,343 --> 04:23:03,946
language. If you go back to it.

6927
04:23:03,946 --> 04:23:05,146
There is says 1200. You really

6928
04:23:05,146 --> 04:23:05,647
mean 1 to 200, don

6929
04:23:05,647 --> 04:23:06,470
t you

6930
04:23:06,470 --> 04:23:06,280
establish.

6931
04:23:06,280 --> 04:23:06,848
Oh, I

6932
04:23:06,848 --> 04:23:07,810
m sorry, there

6933
04:23:07,810 --> 04:23:07,782
s a

6934
04:23:07,782 --> 04:23:07,916
hyphen.

6935
04:23:07,916 --> 04:23:08,849
I

6936
04:23:08,849 --> 04:23:09,952
m sorry. Yeah.

6937
04:23:09,952 --> 04:23:12,821
Okay. Just that and that

6938
04:23:12,821 --> 04:23:14,821
s it.

6939
04:23:16,124 --> 04:23:18,793
And what? Why? Or, staff

6940
04:23:18,793 --> 04:23:19,761
bringing back the same version

6941
04:23:19,761 --> 04:23:21,761
of the text.

6942
04:23:22,530 --> 04:23:24,530
That.

6943
04:23:24,766 --> 04:23:27,268
When I brought it to you in

6944
04:23:27,268 --> 04:23:28,369
MAY, um, there was some

6945
04:23:28,369 --> 04:23:28,703
discussion. I don

6946
04:23:28,703 --> 04:23:30,472
t want to

6947
04:23:30,472 --> 04:23:33,108
call names, but there was some

6948
04:23:33,108 --> 04:23:35,508
discussion that perhaps, um,

6949
04:23:35,610 --> 04:23:37,879
this was expensive and that it

6950
04:23:37,879 --> 04:23:39,981
could be overly burdensome, uh,

6951
04:23:39,981 --> 04:23:41,983
to some of the establishments.

6952
04:23:41,983 --> 04:23:42,217
We had a council work session.

6953
04:23:42,217 --> 04:23:43,185
I don

6954
04:23:43,185 --> 04:23:45,587
t know if you were at

6955
04:23:45,587 --> 04:23:47,789
that one. And so the decision

6956
04:23:47,789 --> 04:23:49,124
was to go with the professional

6957
04:23:49,124 --> 04:23:51,292
security as opposed to the

6958
04:23:51,292 --> 04:23:52,828
bouncers, because security,

6959
04:23:52,828 --> 04:23:54,629
professional security personnel

6960
04:23:54,629 --> 04:23:57,832
would include off duty cops or

6961
04:23:57,832 --> 04:23:59,767
actual professional, um,

6962
04:23:59,767 --> 04:24:02,167
security personnel, as opposed

6963
04:24:02,537 --> 04:24:05,537
to bouncers have less training

6964
04:24:07,942 --> 04:24:09,611
and bouncers. Purview. If you

6965
04:24:09,611 --> 04:24:10,745
will stop at the door of the

6966
04:24:10,745 --> 04:24:11,179
establishment so they can

6967
04:24:11,179 --> 04:24:12,413
t go

6968
04:24:12,413 --> 04:24:12,981
any further. So you

6969
04:24:12,981 --> 04:24:14,981
re going to

6970
04:24:18,719 --> 04:24:22,319
get, um, a person with more

6971
04:24:24,492 --> 04:24:26,994
training and the ability to.

6972
04:24:26,994 --> 04:24:28,764
Provide service outside of the

6973
04:24:28,764 --> 04:24:30,764
establishment.

6974
04:24:31,199 --> 04:24:31,532
And then are the just to make

6975
04:24:31,532 --> 04:24:32,801
sure that I

6976
04:24:32,801 --> 04:24:35,201
m clear, are the

6977
04:24:35,336 --> 04:24:36,838
current, um, bars whatever you

6978
04:24:36,838 --> 04:24:37,171
want to call grandfathered into

6979
04:24:37,171 --> 04:24:39,171
this is.

6980
04:24:39,241 --> 04:24:41,743
Yes. This does not affect any

6981
04:24:41,743 --> 04:24:43,245
pre-existing.

6982
04:24:43,245 --> 04:24:44,545
So it would include any

6983
04:24:44,545 --> 04:24:46,848
business that opens up with a

6984
04:24:46,848 --> 04:24:48,616
special use permit under for

6985
04:24:48,616 --> 04:24:50,616
2022. Correct.

6986
04:24:51,520 --> 04:24:53,520
Microbrewery. Micro distillery

6987
04:24:56,123 --> 04:24:58,493
bar 2022. Yes. Any of the four?

6988
04:24:58,493 --> 04:24:59,761
Me personally, I still have the

6989
04:24:59,761 --> 04:25:01,280
same opinion as, uh,

6990
04:25:01,280 --> 04:25:02,263
Councilmember Scully when this

6991
04:25:02,263 --> 04:25:04,499
was last brought up. I do think

6992
04:25:04,499 --> 04:25:05,667
that this will be burdensome to

6993
04:25:05,667 --> 04:25:08,102
some small businesses. And I

6994
04:25:08,102 --> 04:25:09,237
also think that it will, uh,

6995
04:25:09,237 --> 04:25:11,472
keep some college students out

6996
04:25:11,472 --> 04:25:12,774
of, uh, some jobs because those

6997
04:25:12,774 --> 04:25:14,542
are who mainly staff and

6998
04:25:14,542 --> 04:25:16,578
balance, uh, the, the clubs and

6999
04:25:16,578 --> 04:25:18,113
the nightlife down here. Um, so

7000
04:25:18,113 --> 04:25:20,315
I just want to make that be

7001
04:25:20,315 --> 04:25:22,830
done. For the record.

7002
04:25:22,830 --> 04:25:23,484
All right. Any other comments?

7003
04:25:23,484 --> 04:25:25,484
Questions?

7004
04:25:26,588 --> 04:25:26,854
Uh, I have one in, uh, I don

7005
04:25:26,854 --> 04:25:27,588
t

7006
04:25:27,588 --> 04:25:28,924
even drink. And I

7007
04:25:28,924 --> 04:25:30,725
m swimming in

7008
04:25:30,725 --> 04:25:33,125
alcohol after all this

7009
04:25:34,129 --> 04:25:36,529
conversation. Um, about this,

7010
04:25:37,198 --> 04:25:40,798
but, um, has there been any

7011
04:25:41,603 --> 04:25:43,380
conversation, uh, with, uh,

7012
04:25:43,380 --> 04:25:45,438
businesses or bar owners

7013
04:25:47,609 --> 04:25:49,609
outside of downtown?

7014
04:25:50,145 --> 04:25:52,513
No, because the ones that we

7015
04:25:52,513 --> 04:25:54,882
have now are under the old the

7016
04:25:54,882 --> 04:25:58,119
old rules. So, uh, so the

7017
04:25:58,119 --> 04:25:58,286
answer is, is no. But we also

7018
04:25:58,286 --> 04:26:00,286
don

7019
04:26:00,354 --> 04:26:03,191
t have very many of them

7020
04:26:03,191 --> 04:26:04,793
either. The microbreweries and

7021
04:26:04,793 --> 04:26:07,495
the micro distilleries. We have

7022
04:26:07,495 --> 04:26:07,762
are really downtown. Um, and,

7023
04:26:07,762 --> 04:26:08,730
and they

7024
04:26:08,730 --> 04:26:11,599
re not going to be

7025
04:26:11,599 --> 04:26:13,100
affected because they already

7026
04:26:13,100 --> 04:26:15,604
have a special use permit. So

7027
04:26:15,604 --> 04:26:18,273
they were ahead of this. So my

7028
04:26:18,273 --> 04:26:18,706
point is, is it is, um, it

7029
04:26:18,706 --> 04:26:20,174
s

7030
04:26:20,174 --> 04:26:22,100
only going to affect those that

7031
04:26:22,100 --> 04:26:23,978
would walk in the door and we

7032
04:26:23,978 --> 04:26:28,178
would say, oh, by the way, this

7033
04:26:29,417 --> 04:26:31,586
is a new requirement. Mm.

7034
04:26:31,586 --> 04:26:33,455
Can I ask our deputy chief a

7035
04:26:33,455 --> 04:26:34,489
question about this. Does the

7036
04:26:34,489 --> 04:26:36,290
police department feel that

7037
04:26:36,290 --> 04:26:36,991
this is something that is

7038
04:26:36,991 --> 04:26:38,991
necessary? Y

7039
04:26:40,996 --> 04:26:41,128
all want to see?

7040
04:26:41,128 --> 04:26:42,330
I

7041
04:26:42,330 --> 04:26:44,899
m sorry to put you on.

7042
04:26:44,899 --> 04:26:46,701
No pressure.

7043
04:26:46,701 --> 04:26:48,470
Well, um.

7044
04:26:48,470 --> 04:26:49,403
Have you had have you all had

7045
04:26:49,403 --> 04:26:50,805
problems.

7046
04:26:50,805 --> 04:26:52,807
With the officers about that?

7047
04:26:52,807 --> 04:26:54,742
They actually work the area.

7048
04:26:54,742 --> 04:26:55,443
Um, I haven

7049
04:26:55,443 --> 04:26:57,278
t got a lot of

7050
04:26:57,278 --> 04:26:58,947
feedback from that. Yes, I, I,

7051
04:26:58,947 --> 04:27:00,415
i would have to believe that.

7052
04:27:00,415 --> 04:27:01,483
Get some feedback from the

7053
04:27:01,483 --> 04:27:03,918
officers that are actually on

7054
04:27:03,918 --> 04:27:05,786
the street working.

7055
04:27:05,786 --> 04:27:05,987
Thank you.

7056
04:27:05,987 --> 04:27:07,755
That

7057
04:27:07,755 --> 04:27:10,755
s a good politician answer

7058
04:27:11,693 --> 04:27:13,929
right there. I like that. All

7059
04:27:13,929 --> 04:27:16,329
right. Any other questions

7060
04:27:17,832 --> 04:27:18,833
comments. Thank you very much.

7061
04:27:18,833 --> 04:27:19,634
Public hearing is now open.

7062
04:27:19,634 --> 04:27:20,268
Those speak on behalf of the

7063
04:27:20,268 --> 04:27:20,969
outcome MAY come forward.

7064
04:27:20,969 --> 04:27:22,300
Please state your name. For the

7065
04:27:22,300 --> 04:27:23,771
record. The first person has

7066
04:27:23,771 --> 04:27:26,771
ten minutes. All others have

7067
04:27:37,452 --> 04:27:38,453
three minutes. None of those in

7068
04:27:38,453 --> 04:27:39,220
opposition to the applicant MAY

7069
04:27:39,220 --> 04:27:40,210
come forward. Please state your

7070
04:27:40,210 --> 04:27:41,550
name. For the record. The first

7071
04:27:41,550 --> 04:27:44,550
person has ten minutes. All

7072
04:27:56,270 --> 04:27:57,572
others have three minutes. The

7073
04:27:57,572 --> 04:27:59,107
public hearing is now closed.

7074
04:27:59,107 --> 04:28:01,209
Open for a board discussion or

7075
04:28:01,209 --> 04:28:03,209
a motion.

7076
04:28:03,545 --> 04:28:03,711
So if one makes a motion and I

7077
04:28:03,711 --> 04:28:05,480
don

7078
04:28:05,480 --> 04:28:08,490
t have a motion, but if one

7079
04:28:08,490 --> 04:28:11,649
makes a motion, would that be

7080
04:28:11,986 --> 04:28:13,120
with the suggestion of.

7081
04:28:13,120 --> 04:28:13,387
You could make whatever motion

7082
04:28:13,387 --> 04:28:14,355
you want.

7083
04:28:14,355 --> 04:28:14,823
To make. I don

7084
04:28:14,823 --> 04:28:15,560
t want.

7085
04:28:15,560 --> 04:28:15,957
To make.

7086
04:28:15,957 --> 04:28:17,625
A motion.

7087
04:28:17,625 --> 04:28:18,159
You can take their motion. You

7088
04:28:18,159 --> 04:28:18,593
can take the staff

7089
04:28:18,593 --> 04:28:20,593
s motion.

7090
04:28:26,000 --> 04:28:28,236
You can make up a motion.

7091
04:28:28,236 --> 04:28:28,469
Okay.

7092
04:28:28,469 --> 04:28:28,702
I don

7093
04:28:28,702 --> 04:28:29,304
t have.

7094
04:28:29,304 --> 04:28:30,772
A motion.

7095
04:28:30,772 --> 04:28:32,173
Did I answer your question?

7096
04:28:32,173 --> 04:28:34,173
Did.

7097
04:28:34,675 --> 04:28:37,780
Mayor, if I MAY. This to me is

7098
04:28:37,780 --> 04:28:38,879
really interesting. Um, because

7099
04:28:38,879 --> 04:28:40,414
I feel like at the core of it,

7100
04:28:40,414 --> 04:28:42,617
um, our conversations have been

7101
04:28:42,617 --> 04:28:44,485
centered around safety. Um, and

7102
04:28:44,485 --> 04:28:47,655
so looking at the request of

7103
04:28:47,655 --> 04:28:50,910
planning and zoning to opt to

7104
04:28:50,910 --> 04:28:51,993
use bouncers, but if they have

7105
04:28:51,993 --> 04:28:52,160
to stop at the door, then I

7106
04:28:52,160 --> 04:28:53,394
don

7107
04:28:53,394 --> 04:28:54,763
t know that that achieves

7108
04:28:54,763 --> 04:28:56,630
the safety that we were looking

7109
04:28:56,630 --> 04:28:57,999
for, for inside the

7110
04:28:57,999 --> 04:29:00,999
establishment and then out, but

7111
04:29:03,170 --> 04:29:04,372
then also, um, for the

7112
04:29:04,372 --> 04:29:05,372
establishments that are already

7113
04:29:05,372 --> 04:29:05,573
in business, this doesn

7114
04:29:05,573 --> 04:29:06,807
t

7115
04:29:06,807 --> 04:29:08,176
affect them. It

7116
04:29:08,176 --> 04:29:10,440
s not

7117
04:29:10,440 --> 04:29:11,646
retroactive. So this is going

7118
04:29:11,646 --> 04:29:12,847
forward. So you don

7119
04:29:12,847 --> 04:29:13,681
t want to

7120
04:29:13,681 --> 04:29:14,281
implement something that

7121
04:29:14,281 --> 04:29:15,750
s cost

7122
04:29:15,750 --> 04:29:15,950
prohibitive to a new business.

7123
04:29:15,950 --> 04:29:17,950
That

7124
04:29:18,319 --> 04:29:18,920
s, um, that

7125
04:29:18,920 --> 04:29:20,287
s starting

7126
04:29:20,287 --> 04:29:20,622
their business. Uh, it

7127
04:29:20,622 --> 04:29:20,788
s it

7128
04:29:20,788 --> 04:29:22,788
s

7129
04:29:23,825 --> 04:29:26,225
an interesting proposition. I

7130
04:29:26,861 --> 04:29:28,861
think, um.

7131
04:29:31,532 --> 04:29:33,401
Do you have a motion?

7132
04:29:33,401 --> 04:29:33,834
Oh.

7133
04:29:33,834 --> 04:29:34,803
You know, I don

7134
04:29:34,803 --> 04:29:37,203
t mind making a

7135
04:29:39,474 --> 04:29:40,274
motion. Um, gosh.

7136
04:29:40,274 --> 04:29:41,309
And, I mean, I don

7137
04:29:41,309 --> 04:29:43,309
t think this

7138
04:29:43,444 --> 04:29:43,711
is at least from my point of

7139
04:29:43,711 --> 04:29:45,246
view. I

7140
04:29:45,246 --> 04:29:47,382
m not, you know,

7141
04:29:47,382 --> 04:29:48,783
against safety. Um, around

7142
04:29:48,783 --> 04:29:49,984
these establishments, but I

7143
04:29:49,984 --> 04:29:51,953
just I just really think it

7144
04:29:51,953 --> 04:29:52,987
would be cost prohibitive and

7145
04:29:52,987 --> 04:29:54,254
kind of restrict what these

7146
04:29:54,254 --> 04:29:56,724
businesses could do on a night

7147
04:29:56,724 --> 04:29:58,580
to night basis. Um, they really

7148
04:29:58,580 --> 04:29:58,960
have to be mindful of, you

7149
04:29:58,960 --> 04:30:02,196
know, what day is they decide

7150
04:30:02,196 --> 04:30:05,196
to provide amplified music past

7151
04:30:07,302 --> 04:30:07,935
11:00. Um, yeah. That

7152
04:30:07,935 --> 04:30:08,603
s my only

7153
04:30:08,603 --> 04:30:08,736
concern.

7154
04:30:08,736 --> 04:30:10,104
I

7155
04:30:10,104 --> 04:30:12,140
ll make a motion to approve

7156
04:30:12,140 --> 04:30:13,541
the text as tendered. And the

7157
04:30:13,541 --> 04:30:13,707
reason why is because I

7158
04:30:13,707 --> 04:30:15,309
ve

7159
04:30:15,309 --> 04:30:17,578
dealt with downtown for 40

7160
04:30:17,578 --> 04:30:17,712
years as a criminal lawyer, and

7161
04:30:17,712 --> 04:30:19,712
I

7162
04:30:20,548 --> 04:30:21,716
ve seen the carnage caused by

7163
04:30:21,716 --> 04:30:22,160
people in the bars who

7164
04:30:22,160 --> 04:30:23,985
ve

7165
04:30:23,985 --> 04:30:24,185
consumed way too much. They

7166
04:30:24,185 --> 04:30:25,119
weren

7167
04:30:25,119 --> 04:30:27,880
t just drinking, they

7168
04:30:27,880 --> 04:30:28,556
were intoxicated and served by

7169
04:30:28,556 --> 04:30:29,957
bars. And I think if you talk

7170
04:30:29,957 --> 04:30:31,226
to the officers on the streets,

7171
04:30:31,226 --> 04:30:32,293
they will tell you that

7172
04:30:32,293 --> 04:30:33,628
oftentimes the people come out

7173
04:30:33,628 --> 04:30:34,963
of the bars are not just

7174
04:30:34,963 --> 04:30:36,764
drinking, they are completely

7175
04:30:36,764 --> 04:30:39,764
intoxicated and just drunk. And

7176
04:30:40,334 --> 04:30:42,937
today, uh, had to read, uh,

7177
04:30:42,937 --> 04:30:44,371
because of a case of a very

7178
04:30:44,371 --> 04:30:46,807
serious injury that occurred in

7179
04:30:46,807 --> 04:30:49,343
a bar. And no bouncers were

7180
04:30:49,343 --> 04:30:50,946
around, and they MAY have

7181
04:30:50,946 --> 04:30:52,346
probably prevented it had they

7182
04:30:52,346 --> 04:30:53,681
been. And when you use the word

7183
04:30:53,681 --> 04:30:55,282
bouncer, what does that really

7184
04:30:55,282 --> 04:30:56,450
mean? It means you go hire a

7185
04:30:56,450 --> 04:30:57,985
college kid to come in and

7186
04:30:57,985 --> 04:30:59,985
provide security, who

7187
04:31:00,154 --> 04:31:01,456
oftentimes is a workout

7188
04:31:01,456 --> 04:31:03,230
fanatic, who wants to go bully

7189
04:31:03,230 --> 04:31:03,224
people and use that power.

7190
04:31:03,224 --> 04:31:04,425
That

7191
04:31:04,425 --> 04:31:06,294
s what my experience has

7192
04:31:06,294 --> 04:31:07,628
been. All those watching on tv.

7193
04:31:07,628 --> 04:31:08,496
You MAY have harsh words, but

7194
04:31:08,496 --> 04:31:09,960
you can have all the harsh

7195
04:31:09,960 --> 04:31:10,197
words you want. It

7196
04:31:10,197 --> 04:31:10,497
s the truth,

7197
04:31:10,497 --> 04:31:12,497
and I

7198
04:31:12,733 --> 04:31:13,567
ve seen it for 40 years.

7199
04:31:13,567 --> 04:31:14,736
Mm. So I don

7200
04:31:14,736 --> 04:31:15,503
t want some 20

7201
04:31:15,503 --> 04:31:16,136
year old kid. I

7202
04:31:16,136 --> 04:31:17,205
m not trying to

7203
04:31:17,205 --> 04:31:18,739
crack on a 20 year old

7204
04:31:18,739 --> 04:31:20,740
providing security when

7205
04:31:20,740 --> 04:31:20,942
something goes south, because

7206
04:31:20,942 --> 04:31:21,876
people have had too much

7207
04:31:21,876 --> 04:31:22,760
alcohol to drink, because

7208
04:31:22,760 --> 04:31:22,843
they

7209
04:31:22,843 --> 04:31:24,111
ve been in the bar for a

7210
04:31:24,111 --> 04:31:24,411
while. And so if you

7211
04:31:24,411 --> 04:31:26,411
ve got

7212
04:31:26,447 --> 04:31:27,748
some professional security

7213
04:31:27,748 --> 04:31:28,115
level of it, then you

7214
04:31:28,115 --> 04:31:29,350
ve got

7215
04:31:29,350 --> 04:31:30,652
better training about how to

7216
04:31:30,652 --> 04:31:31,652
de-escalate, because what I

7217
04:31:31,652 --> 04:31:33,540
find in the past is what

7218
04:31:33,540 --> 04:31:34,788
bouncers do. The first thing

7219
04:31:34,788 --> 04:31:36,390
they want to do is to strike.

7220
04:31:36,390 --> 04:31:36,524
And I represented bars who

7221
04:31:36,524 --> 04:31:37,892
ve

7222
04:31:37,892 --> 04:31:39,326
been sued because their

7223
04:31:39,326 --> 04:31:39,626
bouncers have struck an even

7224
04:31:39,626 --> 04:31:40,461
though they

7225
04:31:40,461 --> 04:31:40,628
ve been trained.

7226
04:31:40,628 --> 04:31:42,628
Don

7227
04:31:42,763 --> 04:31:44,598
t strike. People grapple

7228
04:31:44,598 --> 04:31:44,732
and escort. But that doesn

7229
04:31:44,732 --> 04:31:46,634
t

7230
04:31:46,634 --> 04:31:47,301
say so for for for that

7231
04:31:47,301 --> 04:31:47,836
experience. That

7232
04:31:47,836 --> 04:31:48,169
s why I do

7233
04:31:48,169 --> 04:31:48,636
this. And it

7234
04:31:48,636 --> 04:31:50,204
s not going to

7235
04:31:50,204 --> 04:31:50,905
affect any of our bars that are

7236
04:31:50,905 --> 04:31:51,380
currently in because they

7237
04:31:51,380 --> 04:31:51,906
re

7238
04:31:51,906 --> 04:31:52,106
grandfathered in. So you

7239
04:31:52,106 --> 04:31:54,800
re

7240
04:31:54,800 --> 04:31:54,408
lucky. But going forward, I

7241
04:31:54,408 --> 04:31:54,909
think if you

7242
04:31:54,909 --> 04:31:56,443
re going to be in

7243
04:31:56,443 --> 04:31:58,712
the business of serving alcohol

7244
04:31:58,712 --> 04:31:59,947
late at night and people tend

7245
04:31:59,947 --> 04:32:00,681
to imbibe because how do you

7246
04:32:00,681 --> 04:32:01,182
get drunk if you

7247
04:32:01,182 --> 04:32:01,415
re in the bar,

7248
04:32:01,415 --> 04:32:02,250
if they

7249
04:32:02,250 --> 04:32:03,183
re not serving you when

7250
04:32:03,183 --> 04:32:03,484
they probably shouldn

7251
04:32:03,484 --> 04:32:04,685
t be

7252
04:32:04,685 --> 04:32:04,953
serving you? Uh, they

7253
04:32:04,953 --> 04:32:06,154
re

7254
04:32:06,154 --> 04:32:07,488
serving you too much alcohol.

7255
04:32:07,488 --> 04:32:09,230
And then when you get too much

7256
04:32:09,230 --> 04:32:10,124
alcohol, people bounce into

7257
04:32:10,124 --> 04:32:10,525
each other or see somebody,

7258
04:32:10,525 --> 04:32:11,359
girl. And there

7259
04:32:11,359 --> 04:32:13,270
s comments back

7260
04:32:13,270 --> 04:32:13,694
and forth and you and you got

7261
04:32:13,694 --> 04:32:14,562
to fight. And then when

7262
04:32:14,562 --> 04:32:15,128
somebody gets hit, it

7263
04:32:15,128 --> 04:32:16,197
s not the

7264
04:32:16,197 --> 04:32:16,330
strike that hurts them. It

7265
04:32:16,330 --> 04:32:17,865
s

7266
04:32:17,865 --> 04:32:19,133
when they fall on the concrete

7267
04:32:19,133 --> 04:32:20,468
and hit their head and get a

7268
04:32:20,468 --> 04:32:21,469
brain bleed and get brain

7269
04:32:21,469 --> 04:32:22,670
damage. And I

7270
04:32:22,670 --> 04:32:24,205
ve seen hundreds

7271
04:32:24,205 --> 04:32:24,639
of cases like that in 40 years.

7272
04:32:24,639 --> 04:32:25,806
So I

7273
04:32:25,806 --> 04:32:29,760
m a little tough on this.

7274
04:32:29,760 --> 04:32:29,510
I know. Um, but again, a

7275
04:32:29,510 --> 04:32:30,244
balance. There

7276
04:32:30,244 --> 04:32:31,679
s nothing more

7277
04:32:31,679 --> 04:32:31,879
that I see as a college kid

7278
04:32:31,879 --> 04:32:32,513
that

7279
04:32:32,513 --> 04:32:35,216
s just working on their

7280
04:32:35,216 --> 04:32:36,284
part time for 13, $14 an hour.

7281
04:32:36,284 --> 04:32:38,286
So what level of

7282
04:32:38,286 --> 04:32:39,920
professionalism do you get? You

7283
04:32:39,920 --> 04:32:40,870
get what you pay for. So that

7284
04:32:40,870 --> 04:32:41,388
s

7285
04:32:41,388 --> 04:32:43,290
why I make the motion that we

7286
04:32:43,290 --> 04:32:46,660
should adopt it as tendered and

7287
04:32:46,660 --> 04:32:47,661
without the, uh, the bouncers

7288
04:32:47,661 --> 04:32:48,162
as a substitute. Because I just

7289
04:32:48,162 --> 04:32:48,730
think what you

7290
04:32:48,730 --> 04:32:50,464
re really saying

7291
04:32:50,464 --> 04:32:50,631
is let us hire somebody cheap

7292
04:32:50,631 --> 04:32:51,599
who

7293
04:32:51,599 --> 04:32:52,933
s a college kid. And

7294
04:32:52,933 --> 04:32:54,933
usually professional security

7295
04:32:54,969 --> 04:32:56,370
has liability in place on

7296
04:32:56,370 --> 04:32:57,471
insurance. So if something does

7297
04:32:57,471 --> 04:32:57,838
go south, you

7298
04:32:57,838 --> 04:32:59,373
ve got a

7299
04:32:59,373 --> 04:33:00,608
liability insurance policy that

7300
04:33:00,608 --> 04:33:02,944
can that somebody can go after.

7301
04:33:02,944 --> 04:33:04,445
If this, uh, security personnel

7302
04:33:04,445 --> 04:33:04,746
went too far. And again, you

7303
04:33:04,746 --> 04:33:05,746
see it, I

7304
04:33:05,746 --> 04:33:07,447
ve seen it time and

7305
04:33:07,447 --> 04:33:09,383
time again. Multiple bars have

7306
04:33:09,383 --> 04:33:09,783
been sued down, down over.

7307
04:33:09,783 --> 04:33:10,851
So you

7308
04:33:10,851 --> 04:33:11,419
re making a motion for

7309
04:33:11,419 --> 04:33:11,819
the staff sergeant?

7310
04:33:11,819 --> 04:33:12,253
Yeah. The staff

7311
04:33:12,253 --> 04:33:13,621
s

7312
04:33:13,621 --> 04:33:14,388
recommendation that tracking

7313
04:33:14,388 --> 04:33:16,157
that language.

7314
04:33:16,157 --> 04:33:16,290
Does anybody got a second?

7315
04:33:16,290 --> 04:33:17,525
I

7316
04:33:17,525 --> 04:33:18,559
ll second the motion.

7317
04:33:18,559 --> 04:33:20,559
All right.

7318
04:33:22,730 --> 04:33:25,130
Any other discussion? Speak

7319
04:33:26,667 --> 04:33:28,102
now. Forever. Hold your peace.

7320
04:33:28,102 --> 04:33:29,300
All right. Motion been made by

7321
04:33:29,300 --> 04:33:29,970
Councilmember Robinson and

7322
04:33:29,970 --> 04:33:30,805
second by Councilmember Willis.

7323
04:33:30,805 --> 04:33:32,400
All those in favor say aye.

7324
04:33:32,400 --> 04:33:33,441
Aye, aye. Those opposed say

7325
04:33:33,441 --> 04:33:35,309
nay.

7326
04:33:35,309 --> 04:33:36,100
Motion passes, five zero.

7327
04:33:36,100 --> 04:33:37,144
Oh.

7328
04:33:37,144 --> 04:33:37,811
All right. That was it for the

7329
04:33:37,811 --> 04:33:38,212
public hearings. We

7330
04:33:38,212 --> 04:33:39,246
ll move on

7331
04:33:39,246 --> 04:33:40,470
to other items of business

7332
04:33:40,470 --> 04:33:41,150
number 11.

7333
04:33:41,150 --> 04:33:43,251
All right. Thank you, mayor.

7334
04:33:43,251 --> 04:33:44,385
Item number 11, resolution

7335
04:33:44,385 --> 04:33:45,552
approving an interlocal

7336
04:33:45,552 --> 04:33:47,254
agreement with Pitt County.

7337
04:33:47,254 --> 04:33:48,255
Pitt Area Transit System

7338
04:33:48,255 --> 04:33:49,590
relating to providing

7339
04:33:49,590 --> 04:33:51,590
paratransit transportation

7340
04:33:51,692 --> 04:33:52,593
services within the territorial

7341
04:33:52,593 --> 04:33:53,294
jurisdiction of the City of

7342
04:33:53,294 --> 04:33:53,928
Greenville. I

7343
04:33:53,928 --> 04:33:54,928
ll call forward

7344
04:33:54,928 --> 04:33:57,328
our transit manager with

7345
04:33:57,965 --> 04:33:59,734
Davidson for short presentation.

7346
04:33:59,734 --> 04:34:01,569
Thank you. Good evening. Good

7347
04:34:01,569 --> 04:34:03,370
evening, good evening. Evening.

7348
04:34:03,370 --> 04:34:03,637
I look forward to your short

7349
04:34:03,637 --> 04:34:04,638
presentation.

7350
04:34:04,638 --> 04:34:05,139
A yes, sir, i

7351
04:34:05,139 --> 04:34:07,508
m going to give

7352
04:34:07,508 --> 04:34:09,710
you a brief update on where we

7353
04:34:09,710 --> 04:34:11,612
are with our Ada paratransit

7354
04:34:11,612 --> 04:34:12,814
service. So just a reminder,

7355
04:34:12,814 --> 04:34:13,848
Ada paratransit is the

7356
04:34:13,848 --> 04:34:15,820
mandatory point to point

7357
04:34:15,820 --> 04:34:16,317
transportation that we have to

7358
04:34:16,317 --> 04:34:18,317
provide for qualifying

7359
04:34:19,530 --> 04:34:20,121
customers with disabilities in

7360
04:34:20,121 --> 04:34:21,488
which a disability affects

7361
04:34:21,488 --> 04:34:24,488
their access to fixed route

7362
04:34:24,959 --> 04:34:25,559
bus. Um, this is curb. Curb.

7363
04:34:25,559 --> 04:34:27,559
And it

7364
04:34:27,628 --> 04:34:29,631
s, uh, reimbursed at 80%

7365
04:34:29,631 --> 04:34:32,310
of operating costs, 85% of

7366
04:34:32,967 --> 04:34:34,435
capital cost. Um, pleased to

7367
04:34:34,435 --> 04:34:36,537
announce, since we were here

7368
04:34:36,537 --> 04:34:37,971
talking about paratransit last,

7369
04:34:37,971 --> 04:34:39,540
that, uh, the city of

7370
04:34:39,540 --> 04:34:42,443
Greenville and Pitt County were

7371
04:34:42,443 --> 04:34:44,178
selected to receive $200,000

7372
04:34:44,178 --> 04:34:45,980
each as part of a coordinated

7373
04:34:45,980 --> 04:34:48,216
public transportation grant to

7374
04:34:48,216 --> 04:34:49,650
continue our partnership effort

7375
04:34:49,650 --> 04:34:52,500
to provide the transportation

7376
04:34:52,530 --> 04:34:54,540
service. Um, great will use the

7377
04:34:54,540 --> 04:34:56,690
funds to pay for trips that the

7378
04:34:56,690 --> 04:34:58,393
county will provide, and pets

7379
04:34:58,393 --> 04:35:00,793
will purchase vehicles. I

7380
04:35:01,896 --> 04:35:03,598
believe with their funds. So we

7381
04:35:03,598 --> 04:35:06,400
have been able to negotiate a

7382
04:35:06,400 --> 04:35:08,800
renewed partnership for fy

7383
04:35:10,370 --> 04:35:12,373
2627. Uh, pets went through a

7384
04:35:12,373 --> 04:35:14,875
fully allocated cost model, uh,

7385
04:35:14,875 --> 04:35:16,544
exercise with ncdot staff to

7386
04:35:16,544 --> 04:35:18,513
set their trip rate so their

7387
04:35:18,513 --> 04:35:22,382
new trip rate at a break even

7388
04:35:22,382 --> 04:35:24,152
point is $27 per trip. Um, the

7389
04:35:24,152 --> 04:35:24,385
city is still on track. We

7390
04:35:24,385 --> 04:35:26,385
re

7391
04:35:26,620 --> 04:35:28,656
scheduled to begin, uh,

7392
04:35:28,656 --> 04:35:31,560
partial, uh, Ada paratransit

7393
04:35:31,580 --> 04:35:33,193
service that we will provide,

7394
04:35:33,193 --> 04:35:34,862
uh, in OCTOBER. Uh, the service

7395
04:35:34,862 --> 04:35:36,964
is is going to be provided with

7396
04:35:36,964 --> 04:35:38,832
four, four vans. Three, uh,

7397
04:35:38,832 --> 04:35:40,902
which will be Ada accessible.

7398
04:35:40,902 --> 04:35:41,135
One is a minivan. Uh, we

7399
04:35:41,135 --> 04:35:42,970
re in

7400
04:35:42,970 --> 04:35:44,605
the process of creating the new

7401
04:35:44,605 --> 04:35:47,241
positions, working with hr, uh,

7402
04:35:47,241 --> 04:35:49,900
to get that finalized. Uh, we

7403
04:35:49,900 --> 04:35:49,210
have trip booking software

7404
04:35:49,210 --> 04:35:50,278
that

7405
04:35:50,278 --> 04:35:52,980
s going to manage all of

7406
04:35:52,980 --> 04:35:54,982
the, uh, clients bookings, um,

7407
04:35:54,982 --> 04:35:57,982
customers can book via mobile

7408
04:35:58,553 --> 04:36:00,210
app or by calling our office a

7409
04:36:00,210 --> 04:36:01,188
picture of what, what the

7410
04:36:01,188 --> 04:36:02,223
vehicles will look like that

7411
04:36:02,223 --> 04:36:04,580
will provide the service that

7412
04:36:04,580 --> 04:36:05,926
we have. Minivan. And then the

7413
04:36:05,926 --> 04:36:07,495
high roof, uh, vans with a

7414
04:36:07,495 --> 04:36:11,950
transit style door. It has an

7415
04:36:11,932 --> 04:36:13,934
Ada lift in the back. So great.

7416
04:36:13,934 --> 04:36:16,169
Will be the primary provider

7417
04:36:16,169 --> 04:36:18,172
once we began service, uh, in

7418
04:36:18,172 --> 04:36:18,505
in OCTOBER. Uh, like I said,

7419
04:36:18,505 --> 04:36:19,474
great. We

7420
04:36:19,474 --> 04:36:19,640
ll run four vans.

7421
04:36:19,640 --> 04:36:21,640
Pat

7422
04:36:22,743 --> 04:36:23,511
s will provide, uh, 2 to 3,

7423
04:36:23,511 --> 04:36:24,545
uh, and we

7424
04:36:24,545 --> 04:36:26,545
re still talking

7425
04:36:27,515 --> 04:36:29,884
about about 2250 rides per

7426
04:36:29,884 --> 04:36:31,919
month, right. For this program,

7427
04:36:31,919 --> 04:36:34,521
the hours of operation. I know

7428
04:36:34,521 --> 04:36:36,356
this was a point, uh, we spoke

7429
04:36:36,356 --> 04:36:37,658
about back in FEBRUARY. We were

7430
04:36:37,658 --> 04:36:39,527
able to go back and negotiate

7431
04:36:39,527 --> 04:36:41,395
with, with pets that they will

7432
04:36:41,395 --> 04:36:43,898
continue to provide the trips

7433
04:36:43,898 --> 04:36:45,866
from 4 A.M. To 6 A.M., mainly

7434
04:36:45,866 --> 04:36:47,301
dialysis patients. Uh, great.

7435
04:36:47,301 --> 04:36:49,737
And pets will provide service

7436
04:36:49,737 --> 04:36:51,138
from 6 to 6 and then great will

7437
04:36:51,138 --> 04:36:53,674
provide the service from six

7438
04:36:53,674 --> 04:36:55,609
until 830. Uh, on weekdays.

7439
04:36:55,609 --> 04:36:57,644
Saturdays, same thing. Pets

7440
04:36:57,644 --> 04:37:00,114
will provide the early morning,

7441
04:37:00,114 --> 04:37:02,350
4 to 9. Uh, we have different

7442
04:37:02,350 --> 04:37:03,484
hours on Saturday, so the hours

7443
04:37:03,484 --> 04:37:06,484
will match the service that

7444
04:37:06,554 --> 04:37:08,455
great provides. 9 to 430 great.

7445
04:37:08,455 --> 04:37:10,625
And pets? Pets if needed. And

7446
04:37:10,625 --> 04:37:13,494
then pets will do 430 to 6 on

7447
04:37:13,494 --> 04:37:16,330
Saturday. All right. We will

7448
04:37:16,330 --> 04:37:18,132
notify customers, uh, of the

7449
04:37:18,132 --> 04:37:19,433
change. That rate will be the

7450
04:37:19,433 --> 04:37:21,100
primary provider. Pets will be

7451
04:37:21,100 --> 04:37:23,401
the secondary provider, uh,

7452
04:37:23,403 --> 04:37:25,305
through electronic mail, usps,

7453
04:37:25,305 --> 04:37:26,674
uh, starting in SEPTEMBER, uh,

7454
04:37:26,674 --> 04:37:28,242
all existing customers data

7455
04:37:28,242 --> 04:37:29,710
will be exported into our new

7456
04:37:29,710 --> 04:37:31,546
system. Uh, eligible

7457
04:37:31,546 --> 04:37:33,546
eligibility requirements will

7458
04:37:35,782 --> 04:37:37,418
not change. All right. Um,

7459
04:37:37,418 --> 04:37:39,818
request that council would

7460
04:37:40,955 --> 04:37:42,589
approve the fy 2627 interlocal

7461
04:37:42,589 --> 04:37:44,525
agreement with Pitt County.

7462
04:37:44,525 --> 04:37:46,925
All right, any questions?

7463
04:37:46,928 --> 04:37:48,763
I did have a question. Did I

7464
04:37:48,763 --> 04:37:51,763
understand you correctly to say

7465
04:37:52,366 --> 04:37:55,436
that the new assessed cost is

7466
04:37:55,436 --> 04:37:57,836
$27 per ride? Previously, it

7467
04:37:58,139 --> 04:38:00,708
was $9. It was 18. It was 18.

7468
04:38:00,708 --> 04:38:01,876
So $9 both ways. It was or was

7469
04:38:01,876 --> 04:38:02,743
it $18? One way.

7470
04:38:02,743 --> 04:38:05,143
, each way, one way.

7471
04:38:07,247 --> 04:38:07,981
And so the increase to $27. Now

7472
04:38:07,981 --> 04:38:08,849
one way.

7473
04:38:08,849 --> 04:38:10,849
Correct.

7474
04:38:10,850 --> 04:38:11,919
Um, and there

7475
04:38:11,919 --> 04:38:13,921
s nothing that is

7476
04:38:13,921 --> 04:38:17,521
there anything that we can do

7477
04:38:18,959 --> 04:38:20,394
to, um, affect that cost for

7478
04:38:20,394 --> 04:38:22,394
citizens.

7479
04:38:22,396 --> 04:38:22,730
So the 27 the citizen won

7480
04:38:22,730 --> 04:38:23,230
t pay

7481
04:38:23,230 --> 04:38:24,598
that. So that

7482
04:38:24,598 --> 04:38:26,199
s the cost that

7483
04:38:26,199 --> 04:38:27,101
the city will pay the county

7484
04:38:27,101 --> 04:38:28,202
per trip.

7485
04:38:28,202 --> 04:38:30,170
City pays the county patrol.

7486
04:38:30,170 --> 04:38:32,139
Okay. And so then for the

7487
04:38:32,139 --> 04:38:32,973
actual rider, what does that

7488
04:38:32,973 --> 04:38:35,510
look like with the actual.

7489
04:38:35,510 --> 04:38:38,790
Rider today? That is still

7490
04:38:38,790 --> 04:38:39,313
free? When when the city begins

7491
04:38:39,313 --> 04:38:39,480
charging a fair and that

7492
04:38:39,480 --> 04:38:41,281
s

7493
04:38:41,281 --> 04:38:43,317
slated for at some point in

7494
04:38:43,317 --> 04:38:44,752
OCTOBER. Okay. Then what the

7495
04:38:44,752 --> 04:38:47,152
federal government allows is

7496
04:38:47,621 --> 04:38:49,823
twice the normal fare. So if we

7497
04:38:49,823 --> 04:38:51,459
were charging $1 for a bus

7498
04:38:51,459 --> 04:38:52,759
fare, then the fare for a pet

7499
04:38:52,759 --> 04:38:54,395
ride would be $2.

7500
04:38:54,395 --> 04:38:54,528
It would be $2. Okay, so i

7501
04:38:54,528 --> 04:38:56,196
m

7502
04:38:56,196 --> 04:38:56,897
not thinking about the cost for

7503
04:38:56,897 --> 04:38:58,897
a citizen. That

7504
04:38:59,933 --> 04:39:01,168
s an outside of

7505
04:39:01,168 --> 04:39:03,568
a particular program or

7506
04:39:03,637 --> 04:39:06,730
whatnot. I was told that it was

7507
04:39:06,730 --> 04:39:08,676
$9 per trip. I think that.

7508
04:39:08,676 --> 04:39:11,145
Cost that a citizen of county

7509
04:39:11,145 --> 04:39:12,646
pays to ride pets. Versus the

7510
04:39:12,646 --> 04:39:14,915
city. They were riding it as a

7511
04:39:14,915 --> 04:39:17,685
county. As a county citizen,

7512
04:39:17,685 --> 04:39:19,119
riding the county system, not a

7513
04:39:19,119 --> 04:39:21,519
Greenville resident using the

7514
04:39:21,789 --> 04:39:23,157
Ada paratransit system. Because

7515
04:39:23,157 --> 04:39:24,858
we work with the county to

7516
04:39:24,858 --> 04:39:26,726
provide our Ada paratransit

7517
04:39:26,726 --> 04:39:29,163
system within the city limits.

7518
04:39:29,163 --> 04:39:30,264
Right. Okay, okay. So within

7519
04:39:30,264 --> 04:39:32,132
the city limits, it

7520
04:39:32,132 --> 04:39:32,300
s free.

7521
04:39:32,300 --> 04:39:34,300
It

7522
04:39:35,135 --> 04:39:37,971
s it is what you did.

7523
04:39:37,971 --> 04:39:38,172
It went from $27 to free. Just

7524
04:39:38,172 --> 04:39:38,606
like.

7525
04:39:38,606 --> 04:39:40,606
Just like that.

7526
04:39:40,808 --> 04:39:42,643
Yeah. In the does not pay. A

7527
04:39:42,643 --> 04:39:42,977
customer does not pay today

7528
04:39:42,977 --> 04:39:44,644
okay.

7529
04:39:44,644 --> 04:39:45,445
That is what we are paying.

7530
04:39:45,445 --> 04:39:45,846
We pay the county.

7531
04:39:45,846 --> 04:39:47,846
The county.

7532
04:39:48,140 --> 04:39:49,830
We will pay the county 27 per

7533
04:39:49,830 --> 04:39:50,617
trip that they provide.

7534
04:39:50,617 --> 04:39:52,286
Which previously was 18.

7535
04:39:52,286 --> 04:39:52,919
Correct? Okay, I got it now.

7536
04:39:52,919 --> 04:39:54,154
Okay.

7537
04:39:54,154 --> 04:39:55,222
All right.

7538
04:39:55,222 --> 04:39:56,560
Just like that. You got.

7539
04:39:56,560 --> 04:39:57,457
It free.

7540
04:39:57,457 --> 04:39:58,925
All you gotta do is ask.

7541
04:39:58,925 --> 04:39:59,793
I think I got an understanding.

7542
04:39:59,793 --> 04:40:01,228
Thank you.

7543
04:40:01,228 --> 04:40:01,762
All right. Any other questions?

7544
04:40:01,762 --> 04:40:02,396
Comments?

7545
04:40:02,396 --> 04:40:03,197
No. I do.

7546
04:40:03,197 --> 04:40:03,830
Want to say, um, I

7547
04:40:03,830 --> 04:40:04,965
m so

7548
04:40:04,965 --> 04:40:05,990
grateful and thankful that

7549
04:40:05,990 --> 04:40:06,634
y

7550
04:40:06,634 --> 04:40:08,435
all did make it. Um, the time

7551
04:40:08,435 --> 04:40:09,937
change so that we can make sure

7552
04:40:09,937 --> 04:40:11,772
that all of our citizens, um,

7553
04:40:11,772 --> 04:40:13,440
can get to any appointments

7554
04:40:13,440 --> 04:40:15,209
they MAY need to be. And with

7555
04:40:15,209 --> 04:40:16,744
that, I move that we approve.

7556
04:40:16,744 --> 04:40:16,877
Um, and I second that you

7557
04:40:16,877 --> 04:40:18,877
re

7558
04:40:19,779 --> 04:40:22,482
going with, um, being specific

7559
04:40:22,482 --> 04:40:24,852
about those citizens that are

7560
04:40:24,852 --> 04:40:26,870
impacted by, um, dialysis and

7561
04:40:26,870 --> 04:40:27,555
need to get to their

7562
04:40:27,555 --> 04:40:27,754
appointments. Yes. So we

7563
04:40:27,754 --> 04:40:28,656
re

7564
04:40:28,656 --> 04:40:28,956
greatly appreciative.

7565
04:40:28,956 --> 04:40:29,990
Of that.

7566
04:40:29,990 --> 04:40:30,858
Thank you. So we second in the

7567
04:40:30,858 --> 04:40:31,425
motion or second in the

7568
04:40:31,425 --> 04:40:31,925
comment..

7569
04:40:31,925 --> 04:40:32,960
Second and.

7570
04:40:32,960 --> 04:40:34,761
Both awesome.

7571
04:40:34,761 --> 04:40:36,130
I like that. All right. Motion

7572
04:40:36,130 --> 04:40:37,364
been made by Councilmember

7573
04:40:37,364 --> 04:40:38,632
Jones. Second by uh, Mayor Pro

7574
04:40:38,632 --> 04:40:39,500
Tem Forman any other

7575
04:40:39,500 --> 04:40:41,268
discussion?

7576
04:40:41,268 --> 04:40:43,300
I did want to ask mayor if we

7577
04:40:43,300 --> 04:40:45,773
could get an update at our

7578
04:40:45,773 --> 04:40:48,608
next, um, workshop about the

7579
04:40:48,608 --> 04:40:49,977
rollout of the shelters. Um, I

7580
04:40:49,977 --> 04:40:51,846
would love to be able, for all

7581
04:40:51,846 --> 04:40:53,413
of us to know together where we

7582
04:40:53,413 --> 04:40:55,115
are with that rollout and how

7583
04:40:55,115 --> 04:40:56,149
many more we have to go. Um,

7584
04:40:56,149 --> 04:40:56,383
just to get some clarity.

7585
04:40:56,383 --> 04:40:56,550
On that.

7586
04:40:56,550 --> 04:40:58,251
We

7587
04:40:58,251 --> 04:40:59,953
ll do. Thank you.

7588
04:40:59,953 --> 04:41:00,855
All right. Any other

7589
04:41:00,855 --> 04:41:01,755
discussion.

7590
04:41:01,755 --> 04:41:01,988
When you say shelter, don

7591
04:41:01,988 --> 04:41:03,490
t

7592
04:41:03,490 --> 04:41:04,525
offer the benches.

7593
04:41:04,525 --> 04:41:05,959
That for.

7594
04:41:05,959 --> 04:41:07,959
Sure.

7595
04:41:08,929 --> 04:41:09,663
And the bars that need to be

7596
04:41:09,663 --> 04:41:10,498
removed.

7597
04:41:10,498 --> 04:41:11,198
We have we

7598
04:41:11,198 --> 04:41:12,599
ve already started

7599
04:41:12,599 --> 04:41:13,501
removing those bars. Right.

7600
04:41:13,501 --> 04:41:13,868
Yes, yes, yes.

7601
04:41:13,868 --> 04:41:14,568
Okay.

7602
04:41:14,568 --> 04:41:15,680
Thank you.

7603
04:41:15,680 --> 04:41:16,504
I want.

7604
04:41:16,504 --> 04:41:16,837
Welcome those. And I

7605
04:41:16,837 --> 04:41:18,339
ve only

7606
04:41:18,339 --> 04:41:19,840
seen a couple that are left.

7607
04:41:19,840 --> 04:41:21,308
We put we put a few in the

7608
04:41:21,308 --> 04:41:22,242
middle of our chairs.

7609
04:41:22,242 --> 04:41:25,790
At one. This time we were

7610
04:41:25,790 --> 04:41:27,614
walking. All right. Any other

7611
04:41:27,614 --> 04:41:29,149
discussion? All those in favor

7612
04:41:29,149 --> 04:41:29,750
say aye. Aye. Those opposed say

7613
04:41:29,750 --> 04:41:31,551
nay.

7614
04:41:31,551 --> 04:41:31,719
Motion passes five zero.

7615
04:41:31,719 --> 04:41:33,719
Let

7616
04:41:34,287 --> 04:41:36,756
s move on to item number

7617
04:41:36,756 --> 04:41:38,759
12. Number 12. Final real item.

7618
04:41:38,759 --> 04:41:39,693
Approval to purchase 188

7619
04:41:39,693 --> 04:41:40,761
vehicle for the City of

7620
04:41:40,761 --> 04:41:41,995
Greenville and the Transit

7621
04:41:41,995 --> 04:41:43,431
Division. Turn it back over to

7622
04:41:43,431 --> 04:41:45,365
MR. Davidson.

7623
04:41:45,365 --> 04:41:48,365
Thank you. All right. Request

7624
04:41:48,468 --> 04:41:49,804
to purchase 188 paratransit

7625
04:41:49,804 --> 04:41:51,205
van. So this would be a van

7626
04:41:51,205 --> 04:41:52,506
matching the hot top van that

7627
04:41:52,506 --> 04:41:54,275
we saw. Council previously

7628
04:41:54,275 --> 04:41:55,509
approved the purchase of three

7629
04:41:55,509 --> 04:41:57,511
back in FEBRUARY. So this would

7630
04:41:57,511 --> 04:42:01,111
be adding, uh, another Ada van.

7631
04:42:02,215 --> 04:42:05,215
So cost of that van,

7632
04:42:07,387 --> 04:42:09,387
$123,371.76. Funding will come

7633
04:42:10,958 --> 04:42:13,694
from 85% from our fta funding,

7634
04:42:13,694 --> 04:42:14,610
15% from general fund. That

7635
04:42:14,610 --> 04:42:15,496
s

7636
04:42:15,496 --> 04:42:17,230
what the van will look like.

7637
04:42:17,230 --> 04:42:18,899
Um, we request that council

7638
04:42:18,899 --> 04:42:20,734
approve the purchase of one Ada

7639
04:42:20,734 --> 04:42:22,734
accessible paratransit van

7640
04:42:22,836 --> 04:42:25,836
using fta and general funds.

7641
04:42:25,873 --> 04:42:26,640
All right. Any questions?

7642
04:42:26,640 --> 04:42:26,774
Motions.

7643
04:42:26,774 --> 04:42:27,240
I

7644
04:42:27,240 --> 04:42:28,408
ll move.

7645
04:42:28,408 --> 04:42:30,243
All right. Most of you MAY, but

7646
04:42:30,243 --> 04:42:31,145
Council Jones, second by

7647
04:42:31,145 --> 04:42:33,145
Councilmember Robison. Any

7648
04:42:33,147 --> 04:42:34,381
other discussion? All those in

7649
04:42:34,381 --> 04:42:35,282
favor say aye. Aye, aye. Those

7650
04:42:35,282 --> 04:42:36,549
opposed say nay.

7651
04:42:36,549 --> 04:42:37,251
Motion passes five zero.

7652
04:42:37,251 --> 04:42:37,751
Now what? Everybody

7653
04:42:37,751 --> 04:42:39,152
s been

7654
04:42:39,152 --> 04:42:40,854
waiting for. Everybody in the

7655
04:42:40,854 --> 04:42:41,588
audience has been waiting for

7656
04:42:41,588 --> 04:42:42,489
the city manager

7657
04:42:42,489 --> 04:42:43,757
s report.

7658
04:42:43,757 --> 04:42:44,958
Uh, you know, it was going to

7659
04:42:44,958 --> 04:42:46,326
be a long one tonight, but I

7660
04:42:46,326 --> 04:42:49,363
will make it quick. I just want

7661
04:42:49,363 --> 04:42:49,930
to wish my wife a happy

7662
04:42:49,930 --> 04:42:50,397
anniversary. We

7663
04:42:50,397 --> 04:42:52,397
ll be

7664
04:42:52,533 --> 04:42:54,301
celebrating our 34th wedding

7665
04:42:54,301 --> 04:42:54,467
anniversary on Sunday, and I

7666
04:42:54,467 --> 04:42:55,569
can

7667
04:42:55,569 --> 04:42:57,805
t wait to have a nice,

7668
04:42:57,805 --> 04:42:59,773
quiet meal together at Taco

7669
04:42:59,773 --> 04:43:01,608
Bell. Yes.

7670
04:43:01,608 --> 04:43:04,608
Hey, has anybody nominated her

7671
04:43:04,811 --> 04:43:05,145
as a saint yet? Saint Pam.

7672
04:43:05,145 --> 04:43:05,879
Saint.

7673
04:43:05,879 --> 04:43:07,879
Pam.

7674
04:43:07,914 --> 04:43:08,782
34 years. Yeah. Make some else.

7675
04:43:08,782 --> 04:43:10,650
Yeah.

7676
04:43:10,650 --> 04:43:11,251
Oh, man.

7677
04:43:11,251 --> 04:43:12,286
Holy cow.

7678
04:43:12,286 --> 04:43:12,452
She likes punishment, doesn

7679
04:43:12,452 --> 04:43:13,530
t

7680
04:43:13,530 --> 04:43:14,555
she?

7681
04:43:14,555 --> 04:43:15,322
Yes. We

7682
04:43:15,322 --> 04:43:17,722
ll be enjoying our

7683
04:43:18,158 --> 04:43:18,859
nacho Bell Grande. Uh, Sunday

7684
04:43:18,859 --> 04:43:19,590
evening.

7685
04:43:19,590 --> 04:43:19,393
What

7686
04:43:19,393 --> 04:43:20,600
s up? What

7687
04:43:20,600 --> 04:43:20,761
s the drink

7688
04:43:20,761 --> 04:43:20,894
that they have? Like they

7689
04:43:20,894 --> 04:43:21,828
ve

7690
04:43:21,828 --> 04:43:23,296
had like an orange drink or

7691
04:43:23,296 --> 04:43:25,232
something. Baja blast or

7692
04:43:25,232 --> 04:43:26,433
something. Get her a hey, get

7693
04:43:26,433 --> 04:43:26,666
her a bar blast to go with

7694
04:43:26,666 --> 04:43:28,666
that..

7695
04:43:30,837 --> 04:43:32,205
Free refills. That

7696
04:43:32,205 --> 04:43:32,506
s all I got,

7697
04:43:32,506 --> 04:43:32,672
man.

7698
04:43:32,672 --> 04:43:33,974
We

7699
04:43:33,974 --> 04:43:35,575
re going south quick. All

7700
04:43:35,575 --> 04:43:35,809
right, our city city attorney

7701
04:43:35,809 --> 04:43:36,743
s

7702
04:43:36,743 --> 04:43:37,911
report quickly.

7703
04:43:37,911 --> 04:43:39,713
Mayor and council, shout out to

7704
04:43:39,713 --> 04:43:41,581
MR. Scott Dixon. Uh, he was

7705
04:43:41,581 --> 04:43:43,317
reappointed to serve on the

7706
04:43:43,317 --> 04:43:45,352
North Carolina League of

7707
04:43:45,352 --> 04:43:46,886
Municipalities. Uh, Legislative

7708
04:43:46,886 --> 04:43:48,210
Policy Committee. So shout out

7709
04:43:48,210 --> 04:43:49,890
to Scott for that.

7710
04:43:49,890 --> 04:43:51,890
Congratulations.

7711
04:43:52,326 --> 04:43:54,326
Congratulations, Scott.

7712
04:43:54,627 --> 04:43:57,898
All right. Maybe this might be

7713
04:43:57,898 --> 04:43:59,467
the most anticipated, uh,

7714
04:43:59,467 --> 04:43:59,666
comment of the night. Our city

7715
04:43:59,666 --> 04:44:01,340
clerk

7716
04:44:01,340 --> 04:44:01,168
s report.

7717
04:44:01,168 --> 04:44:02,690
I

7718
04:44:02,690 --> 04:44:03,370
m gonna keep this really

7719
04:44:03,370 --> 04:44:04,638
short. Happy birthday to my

7720
04:44:04,638 --> 04:44:05,406
baby sister, Frannie. She

7721
04:44:05,406 --> 04:44:06,640
s 38,

7722
04:44:06,640 --> 04:44:08,575
but still a baby to me.

7723
04:44:08,575 --> 04:44:10,210
My baby sister. Oh, okay.

7724
04:44:10,210 --> 04:44:10,410
Happy birthday. Thank you.

7725
04:44:10,410 --> 04:44:12,410
That

7726
04:44:12,479 --> 04:44:13,247
s awesome. Where are we

7727
04:44:13,247 --> 04:44:15,315
going? Are we. Are we gonna

7728
04:44:15,315 --> 04:44:16,550
start tonight? Okay.

7729
04:44:16,550 --> 04:44:19,550
Um, MAY I rehearse this

7730
04:44:21,880 --> 04:44:22,957
earlier? I have no comment.

7731
04:44:22,957 --> 04:44:23,924
Uh, just, uh, congratulations

7732
04:44:23,924 --> 04:44:25,250
to our three teams that we

7733
04:44:25,250 --> 04:44:26,250
recognized earlier, and

7734
04:44:26,250 --> 04:44:27,260
everybody have a great rest of

7735
04:44:27,260 --> 04:44:29,260
your week.

7736
04:44:29,329 --> 04:44:31,329
Awesome. Councilmember wills.

7737
04:44:31,565 --> 04:44:33,400
Thank you. Mayor. Um, I

7738
04:44:33,400 --> 04:44:33,667
attended the Chamber of

7739
04:44:33,667 --> 04:44:35,667
Commerce

7740
04:44:35,735 --> 04:44:37,204
s, um, leadership

7741
04:44:37,204 --> 04:44:38,706
conference earlier today. That

7742
04:44:38,706 --> 04:44:39,873
was wonderful to see all the

7743
04:44:39,873 --> 04:44:42,242
ladies come together. It was

7744
04:44:42,242 --> 04:44:43,209
very empowering. Uh, so kudos

7745
04:44:43,209 --> 04:44:44,744
to them. They do such good

7746
04:44:44,744 --> 04:44:46,780
work. And so it was a wonderful

7747
04:44:46,780 --> 04:44:49,716
event to attend. And, uh,

7748
04:44:49,716 --> 04:44:51,451
praying for a safe, um, school

7749
04:44:51,451 --> 04:44:53,319
year for all of the teachers

7750
04:44:53,319 --> 04:44:54,621
and administrators and students

7751
04:44:54,621 --> 04:44:56,523
going back to school with pay

7752
04:44:56,523 --> 04:44:56,723
county schools. Um, and I think

7753
04:44:56,723 --> 04:44:57,424
that

7754
04:44:57,424 --> 04:44:58,425
s all I have. Mayor.

7755
04:44:58,425 --> 04:44:59,692
Thank you. All right. Thank you

7756
04:44:59,692 --> 04:45:00,393
very much, Councilmember

7757
04:45:00,393 --> 04:45:01,495
Robinson.

7758
04:45:01,495 --> 04:45:02,930
Uh, I just want to echo the

7759
04:45:02,930 --> 04:45:04,297
comments earlier. First,

7760
04:45:04,297 --> 04:45:05,232
congratulations to Glen Wooten

7761
04:45:05,232 --> 04:45:05,665
for serving us for three

7762
04:45:05,665 --> 04:45:06,833
decades. That

7763
04:45:06,833 --> 04:45:08,335
s amazing.

7764
04:45:08,335 --> 04:45:10,370
Congratulations to those three

7765
04:45:10,370 --> 04:45:11,271
teams. I mean, I really hear

7766
04:45:11,271 --> 04:45:13,407
the Lady Swarm are just

7767
04:45:13,407 --> 04:45:14,575
incredible players and coaches.

7768
04:45:14,575 --> 04:45:15,609
I appreciate you volunteering

7769
04:45:15,609 --> 04:45:17,511
your time and being a role

7770
04:45:17,511 --> 04:45:18,579
model for these kids. It means

7771
04:45:18,579 --> 04:45:20,130
more than you probably ever

7772
04:45:20,130 --> 04:45:20,213
know in your lifetime, but

7773
04:45:20,213 --> 04:45:21,810
they

7774
04:45:21,810 --> 04:45:22,448
ll carry those lessons

7775
04:45:22,448 --> 04:45:22,616
forward with them. And if

7776
04:45:22,616 --> 04:45:23,517
you

7777
04:45:23,517 --> 04:45:23,851
re watching and you have a

7778
04:45:23,851 --> 04:45:24,651
team that

7779
04:45:24,651 --> 04:45:25,852
s doing well, please

7780
04:45:25,852 --> 04:45:29,523
let us know so we can have them

7781
04:45:29,523 --> 04:45:29,689
down here at City Hall. Um, uh,

7782
04:45:29,689 --> 04:45:31,325
let

7783
04:45:31,325 --> 04:45:33,126
s see. Also, thank you to

7784
04:45:33,126 --> 04:45:36,126
everybody and staff and Valerie

7785
04:45:36,930 --> 04:45:39,166
for a smiley mug of flowers

7786
04:45:39,166 --> 04:45:40,300
and, uh, a gift certificate out

7787
04:45:40,300 --> 04:45:41,534
to Boa. I mean, because that

7788
04:45:41,534 --> 04:45:43,736
first two weeks, I was not

7789
04:45:43,736 --> 04:45:45,139
smiling after knee replacement,

7790
04:45:45,139 --> 04:45:45,873
and I looked up and my wife put

7791
04:45:45,873 --> 04:45:47,240
it right in front of me. She

7792
04:45:47,240 --> 04:45:49,276
said. She said, do what the cup

7793
04:45:49,276 --> 04:45:49,409
says and smile. And so thank

7794
04:45:49,409 --> 04:45:50,410
y

7795
04:45:50,410 --> 04:45:51,611
all for doing that because I

7796
04:45:51,611 --> 04:45:52,445
was not smiling the first two

7797
04:45:52,445 --> 04:45:53,480
weeks. But thank you all for

7798
04:45:53,480 --> 04:45:56,116
thinking of me during that

7799
04:45:56,116 --> 04:45:58,116
time.

7800
04:45:58,418 --> 04:45:59,753
Good. All right. Mayor Pro tem

7801
04:45:59,753 --> 04:46:00,454
for me.

7802
04:46:00,454 --> 04:46:02,454
Uh.

7803
04:46:02,589 --> 04:46:04,625
I will mirror the comments that

7804
04:46:04,625 --> 04:46:06,426
were made and elevate again.

7805
04:46:06,426 --> 04:46:07,995
The teams that were here and

7806
04:46:07,995 --> 04:46:10,263
the many teams that we have in

7807
04:46:10,263 --> 04:46:11,665
this city on all sides that are

7808
04:46:11,665 --> 04:46:13,200
functioning in excellence and

7809
04:46:13,200 --> 04:46:15,134
putting in hard work to make

7810
04:46:15,134 --> 04:46:15,335
these accomplishments. So

7811
04:46:15,335 --> 04:46:15,803
that

7812
04:46:15,803 --> 04:46:17,803
s all.

7813
04:46:18,505 --> 04:46:20,140
All right. I echo what everyone

7814
04:46:20,140 --> 04:46:20,907
else said. Now I need a motion

7815
04:46:20,907 --> 04:46:21,841
to adjourn.

7816
04:46:21,841 --> 04:46:22,209
Motion to adjourn.

7817
04:46:22,209 --> 04:46:24,209
Second.

7818
04:46:24,277 --> 04:46:25,412
I need a motion been made by

7819
04:46:25,412 --> 04:46:26,913
Councilmember Robinson. Second

7820
04:46:26,913 --> 04:46:27,914
by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. All

7821
04:46:27,914 --> 04:46:28,916
those in favor say aye. Aye.

7822
04:46:28,916 --> 04:46:30,350
Those opposed. Nay, nay.

7823
04:46:30,350 --> 04:46:32,350
Passes five zero.

7824
04:59:49,682 --> 04:59:50,182
We are adjourned.

7825
04:59:50,182 --> 04:59:52,582
More ways to save.

7826
05:02:44,900 --> 05:02:45,258
Good. All right.

7827
05:02:45,258 --> 05:02:46,793
All right.

7828
05:02:46,793 --> 05:02:47,726
Good afternoon.

7829
05:02:47,726 --> 05:02:48,327
I'd like to welcome everyone to

7830
05:02:48,327 --> 05:02:50,727
the AUGUST 10th, 2026 workshop.

7831
05:02:52,965 --> 05:02:54,233
I'm mayor pj Connolly for

7832
05:02:54,233 --> 05:02:54,834
presiding over today's workshop.

7833
05:02:54,834 --> 05:02:55,935
First I call on our city

7834
05:02:55,935 --> 05:02:58,137
clerk for the roll call.

7835
05:02:58,137 --> 05:02:58,871
Yes, sir.

7836
05:02:58,871 --> 05:02:59,772
Mayor Connolly here.

7837
05:02:59,772 --> 05:03:01,307
Mayor Pro Tem Forman here.

7838
05:03:01,307 --> 05:03:02,675
Councilmember Jones here.

7839
05:03:02,675 --> 05:03:03,943
Councilmember Murray here.

7840
05:03:03,943 --> 05:03:04,843
All right.

7841
05:03:04,843 --> 05:03:05,378
Councilmember Sculley has let

7842
05:03:05,378 --> 05:03:06,450
us know and you will not be

7843
05:03:06,450 --> 05:03:06,913
attending this evening.

7844
05:03:06,913 --> 05:03:08,414
Councilmember Robinson here.

7845
05:03:08,414 --> 05:03:09,682
Councilmember Willis here.

7846
05:03:09,682 --> 05:03:10,182
All right.

7847
05:03:10,182 --> 05:03:10,650
Here.

7848
05:03:10,650 --> 05:03:11,217
Come on.

7849
05:03:11,217 --> 05:03:11,784
Thank you very much.

7850
05:03:11,784 --> 05:03:12,251
We'll now move on to

7851
05:03:12,251 --> 05:03:13,686
approval of the agenda.

7852
05:03:13,686 --> 05:03:15,540
Any recommendations?

7853
05:03:15,540 --> 05:03:15,788
No changes.

7854
05:03:15,788 --> 05:03:16,589
All right.

7855
05:03:16,589 --> 05:03:16,989
Do I have a motion to

7856
05:03:16,989 --> 05:03:17,923
approve the agenda?

7857
05:03:17,923 --> 05:03:18,524
So moved.

7858
05:03:18,524 --> 05:03:19,391
Thank you.

7859
05:03:19,391 --> 05:03:20,159
All right.

7860
05:03:20,159 --> 05:03:20,626
Motion's been made by

7861
05:03:20,626 --> 05:03:21,360
Councilmember Erickson.

7862
05:03:21,360 --> 05:03:21,828
Mayor Pro Tem Forman, seconded

7863
05:03:21,828 --> 05:03:23,828
by Councilmember Jones.

7864
05:03:23,996 --> 05:03:25,231
All those in favor say aye.

7865
05:03:25,231 --> 05:03:26,980
Aye. Opposed.

7866
05:03:26,980 --> 05:03:26,632
Any motion passes five zero.

7867
05:03:26,632 --> 05:03:27,800
All right, we move

7868
05:03:27,800 --> 05:03:28,968
on to new business.

7869
05:03:28,968 --> 05:03:29,635
Item number one.

7870
05:03:29,635 --> 05:03:30,336
Thank you.

7871
05:03:30,336 --> 05:03:30,770
Mayor. Item number

7872
05:03:30,770 --> 05:03:31,470
one is an overview of.

7873
05:03:31,470 --> 05:03:31,971
The relationship between the

7874
05:03:31,971 --> 05:03:32,571
city of Greenville and the

7875
05:03:32,571 --> 05:03:34,571
housing authority for

7876
05:03:34,807 --> 05:03:35,575
the city of Greenville.

7877
05:03:35,575 --> 05:03:36,642
And the assistant city manager,

7878
05:03:36,642 --> 05:03:37,143
Danny Alexander, will come

7879
05:03:37,143 --> 05:03:39,143
forward to give

7880
05:03:39,578 --> 05:03:41,578
the presentation.

7881
05:03:51,357 --> 05:03:53,357
Good afternoon, mayor

7882
05:03:54,159 --> 05:03:54,893
and city council.

7883
05:03:54,893 --> 05:03:56,361
As the city manager said, I am

7884
05:03:56,361 --> 05:03:58,397
standing before you today to

7885
05:03:58,397 --> 05:04:00,466
provide an overview of our

7886
05:04:00,466 --> 05:04:01,200
relationship with the Housing

7887
05:04:01,200 --> 05:04:03,200
Housing Authority of

7888
05:04:03,200 --> 05:04:05,402
the City of Greenville.

7889
05:04:05,404 --> 05:04:05,972
And so we just want to kind of

7890
05:04:05,972 --> 05:04:10,172
set the stage in terms of why

7891
05:04:12,144 --> 05:04:12,878
we're here.

7892
05:04:12,878 --> 05:04:13,446
Um, the city has seen a large

7893
05:04:13,446 --> 05:04:14,948
influx in complaints that have

7894
05:04:14,948 --> 05:04:17,948
required a lot of involvement

7895
05:04:17,951 --> 05:04:20,951
from city staff to ultimately

7896
05:04:20,954 --> 05:04:21,554
get to resolution.

7897
05:04:21,554 --> 05:04:22,880
Um, and in JUNE of 2026,

7898
05:04:22,880 --> 05:04:23,523
we actually received

7899
05:04:23,523 --> 05:04:25,523
correspondence from the

7900
05:04:26,559 --> 05:04:27,393
Department of Housing and Urban

7901
05:04:27,393 --> 05:04:29,393
Development regarding some

7902
05:04:30,620 --> 05:04:32,620
noncompliance with inspections

7903
05:04:33,499 --> 05:04:34,233
dating back to 2024.

7904
05:04:34,233 --> 05:04:35,401
Um, these were life

7905
05:04:35,401 --> 05:04:37,401
threatening, um, deficiencies

7906
05:04:39,671 --> 05:04:40,306
that could lead to a high risk

7907
05:04:40,306 --> 05:04:41,441
of death if they

7908
05:04:41,441 --> 05:04:42,740
weren't resolved.

7909
05:04:42,740 --> 05:04:42,909
And we were able to get

7910
05:04:42,909 --> 05:04:43,909
confirmation from hud in JULY

7911
05:04:43,909 --> 05:04:46,812
of this year that the Housing

7912
05:04:46,812 --> 05:04:47,313
Authority is now in compliance

7913
05:04:47,313 --> 05:04:49,713
with all of those

7914
05:04:49,882 --> 05:04:50,616
outstanding violations.

7915
05:04:50,616 --> 05:04:52,500
Um, based on that background,

7916
05:04:52,500 --> 05:04:54,686
in JUNE, City Council requested

7917
05:04:54,686 --> 05:04:57,860
that we provide some

7918
05:04:57,589 --> 05:04:58,324
information about our

7919
05:04:58,324 --> 05:04:59,692
relationship with the housing

7920
05:04:59,692 --> 05:05:00,359
authority and how, um, there

7921
05:05:00,359 --> 05:05:02,759
might be some overlap

7922
05:05:03,195 --> 05:05:03,930
or how we collide.

7923
05:05:03,930 --> 05:05:05,631
Uh, they wanted to learn about

7924
05:05:05,631 --> 05:05:06,866
elevated concerns regarding

7925
05:05:06,866 --> 05:05:08,866
substandard housing conditions,

7926
05:05:09,902 --> 05:05:10,637
and also wanted to talk about

7927
05:05:10,637 --> 05:05:12,705
tools where we could mitigate

7928
05:05:12,705 --> 05:05:13,405
maybe some of the issues we

7929
05:05:13,405 --> 05:05:15,441
were seeing and how we might

7930
05:05:15,441 --> 05:05:17,643
be able to get more involved to

7931
05:05:17,643 --> 05:05:18,577
get our arms around that.

7932
05:05:18,577 --> 05:05:19,145
Um, so just want to kind of set

7933
05:05:19,145 --> 05:05:20,846
some, um, foundation in terms

7934
05:05:20,846 --> 05:05:23,415
of the purpose of the

7935
05:05:23,415 --> 05:05:24,500
housing Authority.

7936
05:05:24,500 --> 05:05:25,500
It is to promote safe and

7937
05:05:25,500 --> 05:05:27,720
sanitary public housing here in

7938
05:05:27,720 --> 05:05:28,421
the city.

7939
05:05:28,421 --> 05:05:29,155
The housing authority is a

7940
05:05:29,155 --> 05:05:30,890
creature of statute

7941
05:05:30,890 --> 05:05:30,790
and local resolution.

7942
05:05:30,790 --> 05:05:32,625
So chapter 157 of the North

7943
05:05:32,625 --> 05:05:35,250
Carolina General Statutes, um,

7944
05:05:36,940 --> 05:05:36,729
really lays the authority in

7945
05:05:36,729 --> 05:05:37,897
terms of this particular,

7946
05:05:37,897 --> 05:05:38,864
um, allowance.

7947
05:05:38,864 --> 05:05:41,867
And so within that law, either

7948
05:05:41,867 --> 05:05:42,568
the city can run the housing

7949
05:05:42,568 --> 05:05:44,568
authority, the redevelopment

7950
05:05:45,700 --> 05:05:45,705
Commission can run the housing

7951
05:05:45,705 --> 05:05:48,406
authority, or we can have

7952
05:05:48,406 --> 05:05:49,142
an actual housing authority.

7953
05:05:49,142 --> 05:05:50,943
Um, and so in MAY of 1961, the

7954
05:05:50,943 --> 05:05:52,411
then city Council adopted a

7955
05:05:52,411 --> 05:05:54,411
resolution creating

7956
05:05:55,314 --> 05:05:57,314
the housing authority.

7957
05:05:58,317 --> 05:05:58,884
It was a three two vote amongst

7958
05:05:58,884 --> 05:05:59,885
the council members

7959
05:05:59,885 --> 05:06:00,586
at that time.

7960
05:06:00,586 --> 05:06:01,553
Um, and they there have been

7961
05:06:01,553 --> 05:06:02,822
some subsequent resolutions

7962
05:06:02,822 --> 05:06:05,822
that have come out from

7963
05:06:05,858 --> 05:06:08,258
council, um, solely increasing

7964
05:06:09,262 --> 05:06:09,795
the membership on the board of

7965
05:06:09,795 --> 05:06:11,970
up to now we're up

7966
05:06:11,970 --> 05:06:11,997
to seven members.

7967
05:06:11,997 --> 05:06:13,232
Um, another layer in terms of

7968
05:06:13,232 --> 05:06:16,232
the housing Authority is the

7969
05:06:16,502 --> 05:06:17,103
oversight from the us

7970
05:06:17,103 --> 05:06:18,700
Department of Housing

7971
05:06:18,700 --> 05:06:18,770
and Urban Development.

7972
05:06:18,770 --> 05:06:19,905
They provide the majority of

7973
05:06:19,905 --> 05:06:22,305
the Housing Authority funding

7974
05:06:23,142 --> 05:06:24,900
to be able to function.

7975
05:06:24,900 --> 05:06:24,543
They do have some regulation

7976
05:06:24,543 --> 05:06:25,244
over the housing authority.

7977
05:06:25,244 --> 05:06:27,790
I mentioned the, um, inspire

7978
05:06:27,790 --> 05:06:27,713
inspections at the beginning,

7979
05:06:27,713 --> 05:06:30,282
and then they've got some

7980
05:06:30,282 --> 05:06:30,883
regulation over their

7981
05:06:30,883 --> 05:06:32,551
programming that they're

7982
05:06:32,551 --> 05:06:33,786
implementing for the residents,

7983
05:06:33,786 --> 05:06:34,954
some additional information

7984
05:06:34,954 --> 05:06:36,954
about the structure.

7985
05:06:37,122 --> 05:06:39,257
They do have a

7986
05:06:39,257 --> 05:06:39,992
seven member board.

7987
05:06:39,992 --> 05:06:41,193
As I mentioned, that board was

7988
05:06:41,193 --> 05:06:42,562
created by the city council.

7989
05:06:42,562 --> 05:06:45,562
City Council is selecting or

7990
05:06:45,565 --> 05:06:47,965
appointing membership based on

7991
05:06:49,501 --> 05:06:50,403
a rotation.

7992
05:06:50,403 --> 05:06:51,637
Um, their board members are

7993
05:06:51,637 --> 05:06:53,105
eligible for a single

7994
05:06:53,105 --> 05:06:53,805
five year term.

7995
05:06:53,805 --> 05:06:55,174
This was a recent update in

7996
05:06:55,174 --> 05:06:56,740
our rules of procedure, the

7997
05:06:56,740 --> 05:06:58,177
council's Rules of procedure,

7998
05:06:58,177 --> 05:06:58,911
in FEBRUARY of 2024.

7999
05:06:58,911 --> 05:07:01,180
Up until that point, they were

8000
05:07:01,180 --> 05:07:01,981
allowed an unlimited number of

8001
05:07:01,981 --> 05:07:04,116
terms, and we were seeing

8002
05:07:04,116 --> 05:07:04,850
people sit on the board, um,

8003
05:07:04,850 --> 05:07:07,190
for multiple stints, um, many

8004
05:07:07,190 --> 05:07:09,880
decades in some instances.

8005
05:07:09,880 --> 05:07:11,957
Um, so like I said, that rule

8006
05:07:11,957 --> 05:07:13,192
did change in FEBRUARY of 2024.

8007
05:07:13,192 --> 05:07:15,661
There is one exception to the

8008
05:07:15,661 --> 05:07:16,862
rule in terms of the authority

8009
05:07:16,862 --> 05:07:19,650
for the city council to

8010
05:07:19,650 --> 05:07:20,866
appoint, and that is the

8011
05:07:20,866 --> 05:07:21,600
resident commissioner.

8012
05:07:21,600 --> 05:07:22,134
They are first elected by the

8013
05:07:22,134 --> 05:07:23,168
Resident Council, which is

8014
05:07:23,168 --> 05:07:25,568
solely run by the

8015
05:07:26,400 --> 05:07:26,705
Housing Authority.

8016
05:07:26,705 --> 05:07:28,700
And once they are selected,

8017
05:07:28,700 --> 05:07:28,741
then the City Council moves

8018
05:07:28,741 --> 05:07:31,141
forward with the appointment

8019
05:07:31,777 --> 05:07:32,478
of that particular individual.

8020
05:07:32,478 --> 05:07:34,680
Um Commissioner cannot be a

8021
05:07:34,680 --> 05:07:38,280
city official and that is by

8022
05:07:39,151 --> 05:07:40,319
state statute.

8023
05:07:40,319 --> 05:07:41,387
They are.

8024
05:07:41,387 --> 05:07:41,954
Once they are seated, they are

8025
05:07:41,954 --> 05:07:42,988
then responsible for hiring a

8026
05:07:42,988 --> 05:07:44,924
qualified executive director to

8027
05:07:44,924 --> 05:07:47,560
really be able to handle those

8028
05:07:47,560 --> 05:07:48,794
day to day operations.

8029
05:07:48,794 --> 05:07:49,695
And as of right now, their

8030
05:07:49,695 --> 05:07:50,595
Board of commissioners

8031
05:07:50,595 --> 05:07:51,197
meets monthly.

8032
05:07:51,197 --> 05:07:52,431
It's the last Tuesday

8033
05:07:52,431 --> 05:07:54,831
of each month at 6:00.

8034
05:07:54,833 --> 05:07:55,367
So a little bit of background

8035
05:07:55,367 --> 05:07:57,767
about the residents council.

8036
05:07:58,470 --> 05:08:01,206
As I mentioned, this is

8037
05:08:01,206 --> 05:08:03,606
facilitated completely by the

8038
05:08:04,760 --> 05:08:04,744
housing authority.

8039
05:08:04,744 --> 05:08:05,177
Um, the city does not have

8040
05:08:05,177 --> 05:08:07,780
anything to do with this

8041
05:08:07,780 --> 05:08:08,447
particular body.

8042
05:08:08,447 --> 05:08:09,215
Um, at this point in time,

8043
05:08:09,215 --> 05:08:10,215
it is not operational.

8044
05:08:10,215 --> 05:08:12,251
Um, each, um, like I said,

8045
05:08:12,251 --> 05:08:14,251
resident Commissioner is

8046
05:08:16,622 --> 05:08:17,222
elected by this particular body.

8047
05:08:17,222 --> 05:08:19,124
The term for our current

8048
05:08:19,124 --> 05:08:21,124
resident commissioner expired

8049
05:08:22,595 --> 05:08:23,262
in 2025.

8050
05:08:23,262 --> 05:08:23,830
Um, and we requested for a

8051
05:08:23,830 --> 05:08:26,230
nomination for an additional,

8052
05:08:28,333 --> 05:08:30,333
um, resident commissioner.

8053
05:08:30,669 --> 05:08:31,203
And as of today, we have not

8054
05:08:31,203 --> 05:08:31,803
received that, um,

8055
05:08:31,803 --> 05:08:32,671
that that nomination.

8056
05:08:32,671 --> 05:08:34,406
And the current commissioner

8057
05:08:34,406 --> 05:08:35,410
is holding over there in a

8058
05:08:35,410 --> 05:08:37,410
holdover pattern unless

8059
05:08:37,843 --> 05:08:40,179
and until somebody else is

8060
05:08:40,179 --> 05:08:41,580
appointed in sworn in.

8061
05:08:41,580 --> 05:08:43,150
Their membership includes

8062
05:08:43,150 --> 05:08:44,820
people throughout

8063
05:08:44,820 --> 05:08:45,217
their communities.

8064
05:08:45,217 --> 05:08:46,185
Everybody who is named on a

8065
05:08:46,185 --> 05:08:46,885
lease as a head of household is

8066
05:08:46,885 --> 05:08:49,885
a member of this particular

8067
05:08:49,888 --> 05:08:51,124
body, and they're able to vote.

8068
05:08:51,124 --> 05:08:54,124
And then outside of that

8069
05:08:54,126 --> 05:08:54,827
head of household, those are

8070
05:08:54,827 --> 05:08:56,629
non-voting members, but they

8071
05:08:56,629 --> 05:08:58,864
still have a voice in terms of

8072
05:08:58,864 --> 05:08:59,764
that particular council.

8073
05:08:59,764 --> 05:09:00,299
These are just an overview of

8074
05:09:00,299 --> 05:09:03,569
the initial goals of why the

8075
05:09:03,569 --> 05:09:05,969
residents Council was created

8076
05:09:06,639 --> 05:09:07,873
to be able to create employment

8077
05:09:07,873 --> 05:09:09,873
opportunities, promote job

8078
05:09:10,843 --> 05:09:11,610
training, education, healthy

8079
05:09:11,610 --> 05:09:13,610
lifestyles, provide an

8080
05:09:14,146 --> 05:09:14,880
opportunity for public housing

8081
05:09:14,880 --> 05:09:17,416
residents to learn skills and

8082
05:09:17,416 --> 05:09:18,170
the operation of businesses,

8083
05:09:18,170 --> 05:09:20,417
foster pride in public

8084
05:09:20,819 --> 05:09:21,687
neighborhoods, and then combat

8085
05:09:21,687 --> 05:09:23,687
community deterioration

8086
05:09:24,290 --> 05:09:24,990
and juvenile delinquency.

8087
05:09:24,990 --> 05:09:26,859
Like I said, these were just

8088
05:09:26,859 --> 05:09:27,693
the foundational goals in which

8089
05:09:27,693 --> 05:09:29,693
that particular

8090
05:09:29,962 --> 05:09:31,196
council was created.

8091
05:09:31,196 --> 05:09:32,664
There's one other major

8092
05:09:32,664 --> 05:09:34,800
component in terms of how the

8093
05:09:34,800 --> 05:09:36,800
housing authority operates,

8094
05:09:37,736 --> 05:09:38,270
and that is through their

8095
05:09:38,270 --> 05:09:39,838
Greenville Housing

8096
05:09:39,838 --> 05:09:40,372
Development Corporation.

8097
05:09:40,372 --> 05:09:41,740
It is exactly what

8098
05:09:41,740 --> 05:09:42,441
it says it is.

8099
05:09:42,441 --> 05:09:43,542
It's an opportunity for them

8100
05:09:43,542 --> 05:09:45,430
to hold a nonprofit that is

8101
05:09:45,430 --> 05:09:47,443
intended to assist homeowners,

8102
05:09:48,460 --> 05:09:48,713
homebuyers and renters to be

8103
05:09:48,713 --> 05:09:51,316
able to acquire and retain

8104
05:09:51,316 --> 05:09:52,180
a home of their own.

8105
05:09:52,180 --> 05:09:54,353
But I think one of the core

8106
05:09:54,353 --> 05:09:55,454
principles of this is it allows

8107
05:09:55,454 --> 05:09:57,623
the housing authority, the

8108
05:09:57,623 --> 05:09:58,390
development corporation, to

8109
05:09:58,390 --> 05:10:00,226
borrow money without it working

8110
05:10:00,226 --> 05:10:01,126
against the actual housing

8111
05:10:01,126 --> 05:10:03,526
authority such that it's

8112
05:10:03,995 --> 05:10:04,597
a liability in debt.

8113
05:10:04,597 --> 05:10:06,365
It gives them coverage

8114
05:10:06,365 --> 05:10:07,990
essentially, for them to be

8115
05:10:07,990 --> 05:10:08,434
able to go out and get money,

8116
05:10:08,434 --> 05:10:09,535
loan money, what have you.

8117
05:10:09,535 --> 05:10:10,802
So in terms of their portfolio,

8118
05:10:10,802 --> 05:10:13,802
this information is provided to

8119
05:10:14,406 --> 05:10:17,406
their commissioners at each of

8120
05:10:17,442 --> 05:10:19,842
their monthly meetings, based

8121
05:10:20,579 --> 05:10:21,747
on their most recent report

8122
05:10:21,747 --> 05:10:22,447
that they submitted to the city.

8123
05:10:22,447 --> 05:10:23,470
They've got 714 units in the

8124
05:10:23,470 --> 05:10:24,150
public housing portfolio, about

8125
05:10:24,150 --> 05:10:26,550
156 units in their non-public

8126
05:10:27,153 --> 05:10:29,153
housing portfolio, 920 units

8127
05:10:32,625 --> 05:10:33,392
with private landlords.

8128
05:10:33,392 --> 05:10:33,859
Those are their their contracts

8129
05:10:33,859 --> 05:10:34,693
where they allow for, um,

8130
05:10:34,693 --> 05:10:37,696
private landlords to be in the

8131
05:10:37,696 --> 05:10:38,463
business and provide housing

8132
05:10:38,463 --> 05:10:40,399
under the section eight program

8133
05:10:40,399 --> 05:10:43,399
and then 110 units for project

8134
05:10:44,102 --> 05:10:44,769
based rental assistance.

8135
05:10:44,769 --> 05:10:45,371
So typically you see those

8136
05:10:45,371 --> 05:10:46,105
when you've got these large

8137
05:10:46,105 --> 05:10:47,606
development projects and they

8138
05:10:47,606 --> 05:10:48,507
attach vouchers to units, um,

8139
05:10:48,507 --> 05:10:50,907
allowing low moderate income

8140
05:10:51,444 --> 05:10:54,444
individuals to, to stay in

8141
05:10:54,646 --> 05:10:55,381
those particular units.

8142
05:10:55,381 --> 05:10:55,947
Um, they, they as you can see,

8143
05:10:55,947 --> 05:10:57,490
they've got a large portfolio.

8144
05:10:57,490 --> 05:10:59,718
A lot of their properties are

8145
05:10:59,718 --> 05:11:00,418
in need of significant repairs.

8146
05:11:00,418 --> 05:11:02,621
They're dating back to being

8147
05:11:02,621 --> 05:11:03,288
built in the 60s when the

8148
05:11:03,288 --> 05:11:05,288
housing authority

8149
05:11:06,570 --> 05:11:06,692
started in 1961.

8150
05:11:06,692 --> 05:11:07,892
Um, and so a lot of them,

8151
05:11:07,892 --> 05:11:10,128
unfortunately, are, um, dealing

8152
05:11:10,128 --> 05:11:12,528
with substandard conditions and

8153
05:11:13,131 --> 05:11:13,898
they do not meet the minimum

8154
05:11:13,898 --> 05:11:15,734
housing standards that the city

8155
05:11:15,734 --> 05:11:17,736
applies through its ordinances.

8156
05:11:17,736 --> 05:11:20,272
Um, as of right now,

8157
05:11:20,272 --> 05:11:22,672
we've got 43 active cases.

8158
05:11:24,342 --> 05:11:25,110
Um, they're initiated

8159
05:11:25,110 --> 05:11:25,844
throughout many of

8160
05:11:25,844 --> 05:11:26,578
the neighborhoods.

8161
05:11:26,578 --> 05:11:27,846
Uh, a lot of them are tied to

8162
05:11:27,846 --> 05:11:29,148
ac issues, electrical issues,

8163
05:11:29,148 --> 05:11:31,548
smoke detectors, leaks, uh,

8164
05:11:31,917 --> 05:11:32,885
pest infestations, mold really,

8165
05:11:32,885 --> 05:11:35,885
really issues that you see

8166
05:11:35,888 --> 05:11:39,910
across the board in terms of

8167
05:11:39,910 --> 05:11:40,826
what they have going on.

8168
05:11:40,826 --> 05:11:41,893
So kind of shifting gears,

8169
05:11:41,893 --> 05:11:44,529
wanted to give, like I said,

8170
05:11:44,529 --> 05:11:46,529
that foundational background

8171
05:11:47,399 --> 05:11:48,100
piece, uh, to talk really

8172
05:11:48,100 --> 05:11:50,100
through the regulation

8173
05:11:50,936 --> 05:11:51,570
and the authority.

8174
05:11:51,570 --> 05:11:53,380
And as I mentioned at the

8175
05:11:53,380 --> 05:11:53,706
beginning of the presentation,

8176
05:11:53,706 --> 05:11:55,241
the core authority for the

8177
05:11:55,241 --> 05:11:56,174
housing authority comes from

8178
05:11:56,174 --> 05:11:58,443
chapter 5157 of the North

8179
05:11:58,443 --> 05:11:59,511
Carolina General Statutes.

8180
05:11:59,511 --> 05:12:02,470
Um, and they've got about 30

8181
05:12:02,470 --> 05:12:06,247
or so powers that are laid out

8182
05:12:06,785 --> 05:12:07,853
within that statute.

8183
05:12:07,853 --> 05:12:08,387
And I've gone through and

8184
05:12:08,387 --> 05:12:09,121
you'll see them in

8185
05:12:09,121 --> 05:12:09,988
the next few threads.

8186
05:12:09,988 --> 05:12:10,489
I'm not going to go through

8187
05:12:10,489 --> 05:12:10,956
each of them in detail.

8188
05:12:10,956 --> 05:12:12,324
Um, but I will

8189
05:12:12,324 --> 05:12:13,192
highlight some of them.

8190
05:12:13,192 --> 05:12:14,727
And so first and foremost,

8191
05:12:14,727 --> 05:12:15,494
investigate into living

8192
05:12:15,494 --> 05:12:16,762
dwelling housing conditions and

8193
05:12:16,762 --> 05:12:19,331
into the means and methods of

8194
05:12:19,331 --> 05:12:20,465
improving such conditions.

8195
05:12:20,465 --> 05:12:21,660
That's their core.

8196
05:12:21,660 --> 05:12:21,633
Um, one of their core

8197
05:12:21,633 --> 05:12:22,801
principles determining unsafe,

8198
05:12:22,801 --> 05:12:25,201
insanitary dwelling or housing

8199
05:12:25,204 --> 05:12:27,204
conditions, um, exercising

8200
05:12:29,575 --> 05:12:30,175
functions for housing projects.

8201
05:12:30,175 --> 05:12:30,743
so they should be in the

8202
05:12:30,743 --> 05:12:33,379
business of development to be

8203
05:12:33,379 --> 05:12:34,113
able to provide affordable

8204
05:12:34,113 --> 05:12:34,547
housing, low income

8205
05:12:34,547 --> 05:12:35,214
opportunities.

8206
05:12:35,214 --> 05:12:37,349
They've got the ability to

8207
05:12:37,349 --> 05:12:38,150
construct and prove alter all

8208
05:12:38,150 --> 05:12:40,850
those things that come

8209
05:12:40,850 --> 05:12:42,154
along with with development.

8210
05:12:42,154 --> 05:12:42,621
Um, arrange cooperation

8211
05:12:42,621 --> 05:12:44,621
with local governments.

8212
05:12:45,824 --> 05:12:47,860
I've highlighted this because,

8213
05:12:47,860 --> 05:12:48,793
um, a little bit later in the

8214
05:12:48,793 --> 05:12:50,796
presentation, I will make

8215
05:12:50,796 --> 05:12:51,530
mention of a cooperation

8216
05:12:51,530 --> 05:12:52,831
agreement that we signed with

8217
05:12:52,831 --> 05:12:55,231
the Housing Authority in 1961

8218
05:12:55,667 --> 05:12:56,502
when it was initiated.

8219
05:12:56,502 --> 05:12:57,350
Um, that really deals with

8220
05:12:57,350 --> 05:12:57,970
us cooperating for public

8221
05:12:57,970 --> 05:12:59,970
infrastructure, public

8222
05:13:00,400 --> 05:13:02,808
services, land use, um, what

8223
05:13:02,808 --> 05:13:03,542
have you.

8224
05:13:03,542 --> 05:13:04,430
Um, and then the other bullet

8225
05:13:04,430 --> 05:13:04,710
I'll highlight, um, that's

8226
05:13:04,710 --> 05:13:06,245
really tied to them making

8227
05:13:06,245 --> 05:13:07,546
information available to us,

8228
05:13:07,546 --> 05:13:10,248
um, in terms of conditions, um,

8229
05:13:10,248 --> 05:13:12,618
existing, which are dangerous

8230
05:13:12,618 --> 05:13:15,180
to public health, safety,

8231
05:13:15,687 --> 05:13:16,388
welfare, morals, what have you.

8232
05:13:16,388 --> 05:13:18,423
And so, like I said, they're

8233
05:13:18,423 --> 05:13:19,258
they are required to provide us

8234
05:13:19,258 --> 05:13:21,258
with information regarding

8235
05:13:22,194 --> 05:13:25,194
those types of conditions, um,

8236
05:13:25,631 --> 05:13:26,398
when we request it.

8237
05:13:26,398 --> 05:13:27,365
Um, in terms of, um, I

8238
05:13:27,365 --> 05:13:29,365
mentioned development, they're

8239
05:13:29,634 --> 05:13:32,340
able to conduct property

8240
05:13:32,570 --> 05:13:33,239
transactions, and then they are

8241
05:13:33,239 --> 05:13:35,707
able to exercise a slew of

8242
05:13:35,707 --> 05:13:37,707
administrative functions along

8243
05:13:37,809 --> 05:13:40,209
the lines of making

8244
05:13:40,713 --> 05:13:42,713
bylaws, borrowing money.

8245
05:13:43,882 --> 05:13:45,216
They've got subpoena powers.

8246
05:13:45,216 --> 05:13:45,851
They can sue and be sued.

8247
05:13:45,851 --> 05:13:47,118
Um, so all those really

8248
05:13:47,118 --> 05:13:47,986
administrative functions that

8249
05:13:47,986 --> 05:13:49,788
come along with you running,

8250
05:13:49,788 --> 05:13:50,722
uh, an entity or, or

8251
05:13:50,722 --> 05:13:52,722
organization that's really

8252
05:13:53,558 --> 05:13:55,958
quasi judicial in nature.

8253
05:13:56,995 --> 05:13:57,562
So in terms of where the

8254
05:13:57,562 --> 05:14:01,162
city fits in with the housing

8255
05:14:02,670 --> 05:14:04,467
authority, first and foremost,

8256
05:14:05,700 --> 05:14:06,171
the city council liaison is

8257
05:14:06,171 --> 05:14:08,171
appointed after each

8258
05:14:09,410 --> 05:14:09,608
municipal election.

8259
05:14:09,608 --> 05:14:10,976
Um, this appointment

8260
05:14:10,976 --> 05:14:11,776
is made by the mayor.

8261
05:14:11,776 --> 05:14:13,678
Uh, the current liaison

8262
05:14:13,678 --> 05:14:15,814
is Mayor Pro Tem Forman.

8263
05:14:15,814 --> 05:14:18,170
We engage with residents who

8264
05:14:18,170 --> 05:14:19,451
are experiencing experiencing

8265
05:14:19,451 --> 05:14:21,451
challenges with their

8266
05:14:22,540 --> 05:14:22,754
housing conditions.

8267
05:14:22,754 --> 05:14:23,822
Um, as I mentioned, the, uh,

8268
05:14:23,822 --> 05:14:25,290
many issues with ac heat.

8269
05:14:25,290 --> 05:14:28,290
We've gotten a lot of

8270
05:14:28,326 --> 05:14:29,127
complaints recently about bills

8271
05:14:29,127 --> 05:14:31,527
and rent statements, mold

8272
05:14:31,997 --> 05:14:33,365
issues, pest infestations, and

8273
05:14:33,365 --> 05:14:36,301
we really are in the business

8274
05:14:36,301 --> 05:14:37,350
of trying to work through

8275
05:14:37,350 --> 05:14:39,400
solutions for those particular

8276
05:14:39,400 --> 05:14:39,738
clientele because first and

8277
05:14:39,738 --> 05:14:42,140
foremost, they are members of

8278
05:14:42,140 --> 05:14:42,841
our community, and they deserve

8279
05:14:42,841 --> 05:14:44,944
the same access to resources

8280
05:14:44,944 --> 05:14:45,810
and assistance that anybody

8281
05:14:45,810 --> 05:14:48,113
else in the community would

8282
05:14:48,113 --> 05:14:48,880
be eligible to receive.

8283
05:14:48,880 --> 05:14:50,516
So when we get calls, we really

8284
05:14:50,516 --> 05:14:51,483
do try to pass that information

8285
05:14:51,483 --> 05:14:53,886
along to their boards so that

8286
05:14:53,886 --> 05:14:54,653
we can raise some awareness and

8287
05:14:54,653 --> 05:14:57,689
ultimately get to a place where

8288
05:14:57,689 --> 05:15:01,159
we can get it resolved in the

8289
05:15:01,159 --> 05:15:01,727
best interest of the citizen.

8290
05:15:01,727 --> 05:15:03,610
Um, I mentioned the

8291
05:15:03,610 --> 05:15:04,196
cooperation agreement earlier.

8292
05:15:04,196 --> 05:15:06,565
Um, like I said, the

8293
05:15:06,565 --> 05:15:08,965
original was signed in 1961.

8294
05:15:09,367 --> 05:15:10,669
Really dealing with public

8295
05:15:10,669 --> 05:15:11,269
infrastructure, public services.

8296
05:15:11,269 --> 05:15:12,337
We have since had 3 or 4

8297
05:15:12,337 --> 05:15:14,737
amendments solely tied to

8298
05:15:16,908 --> 05:15:19,770
increasing the number of units.

8299
05:15:19,770 --> 05:15:19,611
So I think we started with

8300
05:15:19,611 --> 05:15:20,345
about 225 units in

8301
05:15:20,345 --> 05:15:21,113
the 1961 agreement.

8302
05:15:21,113 --> 05:15:23,848
Um, and they steadily increased

8303
05:15:23,848 --> 05:15:24,850
over the years as they continue

8304
05:15:24,850 --> 05:15:26,850
to build public

8305
05:15:27,753 --> 05:15:28,453
housing neighborhoods.

8306
05:15:28,453 --> 05:15:29,721
And so that is, like I said,

8307
05:15:29,721 --> 05:15:30,989
that is the one thing that was

8308
05:15:30,989 --> 05:15:32,758
changing amongst

8309
05:15:32,758 --> 05:15:33,425
all the amendments.

8310
05:15:33,425 --> 05:15:35,360
Um, and ultimately, like I

8311
05:15:35,360 --> 05:15:38,960
said, the last amendment was in

8312
05:15:40,365 --> 05:15:41,650
1981, I believe.

8313
05:15:41,650 --> 05:15:42,533
Um, so we have not evaluated

8314
05:15:42,533 --> 05:15:44,300
that agreement since that time.

8315
05:15:44,300 --> 05:15:46,371
Um, we, we meet as

8316
05:15:46,371 --> 05:15:47,740
managers, um, as necessary.

8317
05:15:47,740 --> 05:15:50,508
So with their leadership team

8318
05:15:50,508 --> 05:15:53,312
and the city's leadership team

8319
05:15:53,312 --> 05:15:53,979
as things come up.

8320
05:15:53,979 --> 05:15:54,579
Um, we, like I said, we'll

8321
05:15:54,579 --> 05:15:55,414
schedule meetings, talk through

8322
05:15:55,414 --> 05:15:57,549
it, see if we can't find

8323
05:15:57,549 --> 05:15:58,150
a workable solution.

8324
05:15:58,150 --> 05:15:59,884
Um, I typically attend

8325
05:15:59,884 --> 05:16:01,190
the monthly board meetings

8326
05:16:01,190 --> 05:16:03,288
alongside Mayor Pro Tem Forman

8327
05:16:03,288 --> 05:16:04,220
just so we can stay in the

8328
05:16:04,220 --> 05:16:06,422
loop, provide information both

8329
05:16:06,658 --> 05:16:07,759
ways, and really be able to

8330
05:16:07,759 --> 05:16:10,829
keep our finger on the pulse in

8331
05:16:10,829 --> 05:16:13,198
terms of what's what's going on

8332
05:16:13,198 --> 05:16:13,732
at the Housing authority.

8333
05:16:13,732 --> 05:16:14,533
Um, I've mentioned

8334
05:16:14,533 --> 05:16:15,600
code enforcement.

8335
05:16:15,600 --> 05:16:17,135
There's been a lot of

8336
05:16:17,135 --> 05:16:19,535
engagement in that, that

8337
05:16:20,400 --> 05:16:20,772
particular arena recently.

8338
05:16:20,772 --> 05:16:22,240
Um, especially with that notice

8339
05:16:22,240 --> 05:16:23,700
we received from hud and Judon

8340
05:16:23,700 --> 05:16:24,976
that that really, um,

8341
05:16:24,976 --> 05:16:26,111
increased awareness for us.

8342
05:16:26,111 --> 05:16:29,810
Um, when the feds reached out

8343
05:16:29,810 --> 05:16:31,383
to us to let them let us know

8344
05:16:31,383 --> 05:16:31,983
what was going on.

8345
05:16:31,983 --> 05:16:32,551
Um, affordable housing

8346
05:16:32,551 --> 05:16:33,785
development, our most recent

8347
05:16:33,785 --> 05:16:35,253
development would have been the

8348
05:16:35,253 --> 05:16:35,987
Arlington Trace, where council

8349
05:16:35,987 --> 05:16:37,589
actually had to approve bonds

8350
05:16:37,589 --> 05:16:38,256
for that particular project.

8351
05:16:38,256 --> 05:16:39,891
There are project vouchers

8352
05:16:39,891 --> 05:16:42,291
connected to that, um,

8353
05:16:43,261 --> 05:16:43,862
development as well.

8354
05:16:43,862 --> 05:16:44,596
Um, and so we are having

8355
05:16:44,596 --> 05:16:46,231
additional conversations now in

8356
05:16:46,231 --> 05:16:48,631
terms of some additional

8357
05:16:49,267 --> 05:16:49,834
affordable housing development

8358
05:16:49,834 --> 05:16:51,703
that we're trying to

8359
05:16:51,703 --> 05:16:52,270
to move down the pike.

8360
05:16:52,270 --> 05:16:53,905
Um, we approve their

8361
05:16:53,905 --> 05:16:54,973
consistency statements.

8362
05:16:54,973 --> 05:16:57,809
Um, they're required to be in

8363
05:16:57,809 --> 05:16:58,543
line with the city's annual

8364
05:16:58,543 --> 05:17:00,943
action plan and five

8365
05:17:01,120 --> 05:17:01,714
year consolidated plan.

8366
05:17:01,714 --> 05:17:03,215
Um, and so their plan has to

8367
05:17:03,215 --> 05:17:04,415
come through us in terms of us

8368
05:17:04,415 --> 05:17:07,452
signing off on it, to say that

8369
05:17:07,452 --> 05:17:07,919
it is consistent with what we

8370
05:17:07,919 --> 05:17:09,955
have laid out in

8371
05:17:09,955 --> 05:17:12,355
terms of, um, housing.

8372
05:17:12,457 --> 05:17:13,592
Um, and then the the last piece

8373
05:17:13,592 --> 05:17:14,793
up there is actually

8374
05:17:14,793 --> 05:17:15,527
it's bond issuance.

8375
05:17:15,527 --> 05:17:17,620
Um, and like I said, the most

8376
05:17:17,620 --> 05:17:19,300
recent one would have been for

8377
05:17:19,300 --> 05:17:19,564
Arlington Trace.

8378
05:17:19,564 --> 05:17:20,131
And that all comes

8379
05:17:20,131 --> 05:17:21,800
through City Council.

8380
05:17:21,800 --> 05:17:22,868
Some additional

8381
05:17:22,868 --> 05:17:24,868
involvement in 2024.

8382
05:17:26,838 --> 05:17:28,106
I did an extensive evaluation

8383
05:17:28,106 --> 05:17:31,409
of the support that we were

8384
05:17:31,409 --> 05:17:33,409
providing to the

8385
05:17:34,246 --> 05:17:34,947
Housing Authority.

8386
05:17:34,947 --> 05:17:36,548
Um, just to understand what

8387
05:17:36,548 --> 05:17:39,548
types of in-kind services we

8388
05:17:40,785 --> 05:17:41,320
were providing them and be able

8389
05:17:41,320 --> 05:17:42,320
to attach monetary

8390
05:17:42,320 --> 05:17:42,988
amounts to it.

8391
05:17:42,988 --> 05:17:44,523
Um, the largest piece that

8392
05:17:44,523 --> 05:17:45,290
came out of this is within the

8393
05:17:45,290 --> 05:17:47,290
cooperation agreement

8394
05:17:47,358 --> 05:17:48,293
that was signed in 1961.

8395
05:17:48,293 --> 05:17:49,761
There is some language in there

8396
05:17:49,761 --> 05:17:52,798
that has been interpreted to be

8397
05:17:52,798 --> 05:17:55,734
able to provide rescue services

8398
05:17:55,734 --> 05:17:59,934
at no charge to all of the

8399
05:18:00,773 --> 05:18:01,306
housing authorities units.

8400
05:18:01,306 --> 05:18:02,730
Um, that has since

8401
05:18:02,730 --> 05:18:02,975
been in re-interpreted.

8402
05:18:02,975 --> 05:18:04,510
Um, and we're evaluating that,

8403
05:18:04,510 --> 05:18:07,510
but that's costing us annually

8404
05:18:08,380 --> 05:18:09,447
around $163,000.

8405
05:18:09,447 --> 05:18:11,447
There are.

8406
05:18:11,583 --> 05:18:12,250
Things.

8407
05:18:12,250 --> 05:18:12,718
Costing us around $163,000

8408
05:18:12,718 --> 05:18:13,819
annually in terms of us

8409
05:18:13,819 --> 05:18:15,819
providing that, that

8410
05:18:16,822 --> 05:18:17,322
particular service to them.

8411
05:18:17,322 --> 05:18:19,257
Um, information

8412
05:18:19,257 --> 05:18:20,591
technology services.

8413
05:18:20,591 --> 05:18:21,759
They use our fiber systems,

8414
05:18:21,759 --> 05:18:23,759
our telephone lines.

8415
05:18:25,960 --> 05:18:26,310
Um, and.

8416
05:18:26,310 --> 05:18:26,798
They're paying for it in some

8417
05:18:26,798 --> 05:18:28,233
instances, but it

8418
05:18:28,233 --> 05:18:29,340
is not at a cost.

8419
05:18:29,340 --> 05:18:30,235
That would be, um, more

8420
05:18:30,235 --> 05:18:30,902
expensive because they're

8421
05:18:30,902 --> 05:18:33,302
tacked into our particular

8422
05:18:33,605 --> 05:18:34,306
services that we're providing.

8423
05:18:34,306 --> 05:18:36,841
When you break down like the

8424
05:18:36,841 --> 05:18:39,440
rescue services, is that like,

8425
05:18:39,440 --> 05:18:41,346
is that individual, individual

8426
05:18:41,346 --> 05:18:43,448
services for each of the units,

8427
05:18:43,448 --> 05:18:46,451
or is this like a larger

8428
05:18:46,451 --> 05:18:47,218
complex where we're offering

8429
05:18:47,218 --> 05:18:49,618
like dumpster dumpster services

8430
05:18:50,288 --> 05:18:52,224
and typically and and typically

8431
05:18:52,224 --> 05:18:54,992
those tenants do they still

8432
05:18:54,992 --> 05:18:57,392
get individual bills for

8433
05:18:59,197 --> 05:19:01,533
electricity for those units.

8434
05:19:01,533 --> 05:19:02,901
They do so.

8435
05:19:02,901 --> 05:19:03,368
So essentially it's just

8436
05:19:03,368 --> 05:19:04,135
saving the tenants money.

8437
05:19:04,135 --> 05:19:05,690
It's not really being a benefit

8438
05:19:05,690 --> 05:19:05,904
to the I mean, I guess the

8439
05:19:05,904 --> 05:19:08,707
tenants I mean the housing

8440
05:19:08,707 --> 05:19:09,407
authority will benefit because

8441
05:19:09,407 --> 05:19:11,676
they can, I guess, advertise

8442
05:19:11,676 --> 05:19:14,676
that they have unless the

8443
05:19:14,746 --> 05:19:15,480
housing authority.

8444
05:19:15,480 --> 05:19:16,140
Works to choose to pick it up

8445
05:19:16,140 --> 05:19:16,714
on behalf of their tenants.

8446
05:19:16,714 --> 05:19:19,317
But typically it's not like

8447
05:19:19,317 --> 05:19:22,317
they would be charged directly

8448
05:19:22,955 --> 05:19:23,655
for that fee.

8449
05:19:23,655 --> 05:19:24,222
That's being passed along to

8450
05:19:24,222 --> 05:19:26,791
the people that are living in

8451
05:19:26,791 --> 05:19:27,859
the actual units.

8452
05:19:27,859 --> 05:19:28,393
Um, in terms of public safety,

8453
05:19:28,393 --> 05:19:31,393
there are two officers that

8454
05:19:32,664 --> 05:19:34,664
cover the housing

8455
05:19:35,634 --> 05:19:36,334
authorities neighborhoods.

8456
05:19:36,334 --> 05:19:38,690
The city covers the cost of

8457
05:19:38,690 --> 05:19:41,690
one, and the housing authority

8458
05:19:41,372 --> 05:19:42,700
covers the cost of the other.

8459
05:19:42,700 --> 05:19:42,840
There are roughly about

8460
05:19:42,840 --> 05:19:44,375
$80,000 per officer.

8461
05:19:44,375 --> 05:19:46,478
Um, one of the other

8462
05:19:46,478 --> 05:19:47,946
angles is the ShotSpotter.

8463
05:19:47,946 --> 05:19:49,848
We recently renewed that

8464
05:19:49,848 --> 05:19:50,582
contract, and the Housing

8465
05:19:50,582 --> 05:19:52,583
Authority is paying about 25%

8466
05:19:52,583 --> 05:19:56,183
of the total overall cost, and

8467
05:19:57,755 --> 05:19:58,556
that's roughly about 65, $66,000

8468
05:19:58,556 --> 05:20:00,258
that they're paying for that

8469
05:20:00,258 --> 05:20:03,161
cost amongst, um, the city ecu

8470
05:20:03,161 --> 05:20:05,561
Housing Authority and then

8471
05:20:06,970 --> 05:20:06,998
Pitt County Public Schools.

8472
05:20:06,998 --> 05:20:08,299
So it's for individuals or for

8473
05:20:08,299 --> 05:20:08,900
entities that are helping to

8474
05:20:08,900 --> 05:20:10,969
cover the cost of that

8475
05:20:10,969 --> 05:20:11,703
particular contract.

8476
05:20:11,703 --> 05:20:13,500
Um, they've got access to our

8477
05:20:13,500 --> 05:20:16,500
fuel station at our public

8478
05:20:16,574 --> 05:20:17,275
services complex.

8479
05:20:17,275 --> 05:20:17,876
They pay the same cost that

8480
05:20:17,876 --> 05:20:21,446
the city pays in terms of being

8481
05:20:21,446 --> 05:20:22,146
able to fuel their vehicles.

8482
05:20:22,146 --> 05:20:22,847
And up until JANUARY of this

8483
05:20:22,847 --> 05:20:26,447
year, they were, um, using our

8484
05:20:29,454 --> 05:20:30,188
health insurance.

8485
05:20:30,188 --> 05:20:30,789
And so they have now gone out

8486
05:20:30,789 --> 05:20:31,256
and secured their own plan, um,

8487
05:20:31,256 --> 05:20:33,558
in terms of that

8488
05:20:33,558 --> 05:20:34,859
particular component.

8489
05:20:34,859 --> 05:20:35,960
So with all of that

8490
05:20:35,960 --> 05:20:38,596
information, one of the big

8491
05:20:38,596 --> 05:20:40,996
things that council requested

8492
05:20:41,333 --> 05:20:42,670
was for us to be able to

8493
05:20:42,670 --> 05:20:44,302
evaluate any additional places

8494
05:20:44,302 --> 05:20:47,302
where we could provide some,

8495
05:20:48,707 --> 05:20:49,274
some oversight, um, and be able

8496
05:20:49,274 --> 05:20:50,909
to keep our fingers

8497
05:20:50,909 --> 05:20:51,643
on the pulse.

8498
05:20:51,643 --> 05:20:52,611
Um, and so statutorily out of

8499
05:20:52,611 --> 05:20:55,611
chapter 157, there are a couple

8500
05:20:56,414 --> 05:20:57,820
of angles that I want to

8501
05:20:57,820 --> 05:20:57,682
provide you all

8502
05:20:57,682 --> 05:20:58,383
for consideration.

8503
05:20:58,383 --> 05:20:59,150
Discussion. Um, for us to be

8504
05:20:59,150 --> 05:21:02,150
able to determine what next

8505
05:21:02,354 --> 05:21:03,210
steps look like.

8506
05:21:03,210 --> 05:21:03,588
Um, so first and foremost,

8507
05:21:03,588 --> 05:21:06,588
the statute requires that they

8508
05:21:07,125 --> 05:21:08,927
provide an annual report.

8509
05:21:08,927 --> 05:21:09,795
And I will say that the annual

8510
05:21:09,795 --> 05:21:11,795
reports have been

8511
05:21:11,796 --> 05:21:12,397
fairly consistent.

8512
05:21:12,397 --> 05:21:13,565
Um, they're filing those

8513
05:21:13,565 --> 05:21:14,700
with the city regularly.

8514
05:21:14,700 --> 05:21:16,334
There was a time in 2008 when

8515
05:21:16,334 --> 05:21:18,836
there board at the time voted

8516
05:21:18,836 --> 05:21:21,873
to in the practice of coming

8517
05:21:21,873 --> 05:21:24,873
before council and just simply

8518
05:21:25,176 --> 05:21:25,777
submitting a written report.

8519
05:21:25,777 --> 05:21:26,778
Um, and so, like I said,

8520
05:21:26,778 --> 05:21:28,680
they've been consistent in

8521
05:21:28,680 --> 05:21:29,147
submitting those reports.

8522
05:21:29,147 --> 05:21:29,581
Last report we

8523
05:21:29,581 --> 05:21:30,282
received was in 2025,

8524
05:21:30,282 --> 05:21:31,750
and we anticipate receiving

8525
05:21:31,750 --> 05:21:33,618
another one in SEPTEMBER,

8526
05:21:33,618 --> 05:21:35,887
OCTOBER of this year in terms

8527
05:21:35,887 --> 05:21:38,287
of their annual activities.

8528
05:21:39,357 --> 05:21:39,857
I've talked a lot about

8529
05:21:39,857 --> 05:21:41,857
the cooperation agreement.

8530
05:21:43,280 --> 05:21:44,563
This is another opportunity

8531
05:21:44,563 --> 05:21:45,230
that we have, and that is to

8532
05:21:45,230 --> 05:21:48,199
look at the language and

8533
05:21:48,199 --> 05:21:48,766
the cooperation agreement.

8534
05:21:48,766 --> 05:21:50,234
Like I said, it was

8535
05:21:50,234 --> 05:21:50,835
first signed in 1961.

8536
05:21:50,835 --> 05:21:52,303
So being able to look at

8537
05:21:52,303 --> 05:21:53,838
that agreement and adjust

8538
05:21:53,838 --> 05:21:56,174
accordingly for where we

8539
05:21:56,174 --> 05:21:57,410
are, make sure we have the

8540
05:21:57,410 --> 05:21:58,543
appropriate interpretations

8541
05:21:58,543 --> 05:22:01,543
for how we're implementing, um,

8542
05:22:02,179 --> 05:22:02,814
activities between us.

8543
05:22:02,814 --> 05:22:04,182
Um, some of the other um,

8544
05:22:04,182 --> 05:22:05,150
examples in terms of those

8545
05:22:05,150 --> 05:22:07,952
amendments, I mentioned that it

8546
05:22:07,952 --> 05:22:10,352
of course included increasing

8547
05:22:10,955 --> 05:22:11,622
the number of units.

8548
05:22:11,622 --> 05:22:12,123
Um, but it allowed for the

8549
05:22:12,123 --> 05:22:13,240
making of loans and the

8550
05:22:13,240 --> 05:22:14,692
facilitation of the

8551
05:22:14,692 --> 05:22:15,293
rehabilitation program, and

8552
05:22:15,293 --> 05:22:16,728
that facilitation of the

8553
05:22:16,728 --> 05:22:18,930
rehabilitation program came up

8554
05:22:18,930 --> 05:22:19,631
in 1981.

8555
05:22:19,631 --> 05:22:20,164
That was that was one of the

8556
05:22:20,164 --> 05:22:22,564
reasons for that particular,

8557
05:22:22,600 --> 05:22:23,802
um, amendment.

8558
05:22:23,802 --> 05:22:24,402
Um, one of the other um,

8559
05:22:24,402 --> 05:22:26,802
statutory allowances deals with

8560
05:22:27,972 --> 05:22:29,972
the budgeting and

8561
05:22:30,775 --> 05:22:31,409
accounting piece.

8562
05:22:31,409 --> 05:22:32,778
And essentially the state

8563
05:22:32,778 --> 05:22:34,450
law provides that the housing

8564
05:22:34,450 --> 05:22:36,450
authorities, um, budget,

8565
05:22:36,948 --> 05:22:37,649
finances, all of those

8566
05:22:37,649 --> 05:22:40,151
activities can function as a

8567
05:22:40,151 --> 05:22:41,620
public enterprise of the city.

8568
05:22:41,620 --> 05:22:44,155
Um, and so what that would look

8569
05:22:44,155 --> 05:22:45,356
like is all of their finances

8570
05:22:45,356 --> 05:22:47,756
would essentially be running

8571
05:22:48,359 --> 05:22:48,827
through the city and managed by

8572
05:22:48,827 --> 05:22:50,562
our financial

8573
05:22:50,562 --> 05:22:51,162
services department.

8574
05:22:51,162 --> 05:22:52,730
Um, in terms of budget

8575
05:22:52,730 --> 05:22:53,731
spending, what have you.

8576
05:22:53,731 --> 05:22:56,201
And so we have evaluated

8577
05:22:56,201 --> 05:22:56,935
this provision.

8578
05:22:56,935 --> 05:22:59,437
Um, I think there's absolutely

8579
05:22:59,437 --> 05:23:01,837
additional room to evaluate

8580
05:23:03,410 --> 05:23:03,541
further, um, to see what that

8581
05:23:03,541 --> 05:23:04,910
would really look

8582
05:23:04,910 --> 05:23:05,543
like logistically.

8583
05:23:05,543 --> 05:23:06,778
But that is, like I said,

8584
05:23:06,778 --> 05:23:08,913
one of the allowances that's

8585
05:23:08,913 --> 05:23:12,513
written out in the state law.

8586
05:23:13,251 --> 05:23:13,985
Removal of commissioners.

8587
05:23:13,985 --> 05:23:14,519
This this particular authority

8588
05:23:14,519 --> 05:23:17,519
belongs solely to the mayor.

8589
05:23:18,823 --> 05:23:20,258
Um.

8590
05:23:20,258 --> 05:23:20,691
And, uh, the mayor would

8591
05:23:20,691 --> 05:23:23,361
be permitted to remove a

8592
05:23:23,361 --> 05:23:25,361
commissioner for inefficiency

8593
05:23:25,797 --> 05:23:28,566
or neglect of duty or

8594
05:23:28,566 --> 05:23:29,400
misconduct in office.

8595
05:23:29,400 --> 05:23:29,968
Those particular terms are

8596
05:23:29,968 --> 05:23:30,801
not defined in state statute.

8597
05:23:30,801 --> 05:23:33,437
Um, so we would apply an

8598
05:23:33,437 --> 05:23:34,339
ordinary, reasonable person

8599
05:23:34,339 --> 05:23:36,339
definition to what

8600
05:23:37,108 --> 05:23:37,875
might qualify.

8601
05:23:37,875 --> 05:23:39,644
i see y'all given eyeballs, uh,

8602
05:23:39,644 --> 05:23:40,578
for what might qualify, um, in

8603
05:23:40,578 --> 05:23:42,578
terms of those

8604
05:23:43,514 --> 05:23:44,248
particular definitions.

8605
05:23:44,248 --> 05:23:45,650
Um, the only key here is that

8606
05:23:45,650 --> 05:23:48,650
we would follow the statutory

8607
05:23:49,687 --> 05:23:50,288
process that is laid out.

8608
05:23:50,288 --> 05:23:50,889
And essentially it's a

8609
05:23:50,889 --> 05:23:51,523
due process procedure.

8610
05:23:51,523 --> 05:23:53,591
Um, that you would have

8611
05:23:53,591 --> 05:23:54,725
to follow in terms of the

8612
05:23:54,725 --> 05:23:56,227
commissioner being made aware

8613
05:23:56,227 --> 05:23:56,894
of what the charges are based

8614
05:23:56,894 --> 05:23:59,230
on a set timeline and then

8615
05:23:59,230 --> 05:23:59,798
giving them an opportunity to

8616
05:23:59,798 --> 05:24:02,198
respond in the event

8617
05:24:02,333 --> 05:24:03,234
they do not respond.

8618
05:24:03,234 --> 05:24:04,435
It's considered acquiescing to

8619
05:24:04,435 --> 05:24:05,300
whatever the the allegation or

8620
05:24:05,300 --> 05:24:07,403
charge might be and

8621
05:24:08,600 --> 05:24:08,773
ultimately subject to removal.

8622
05:24:08,773 --> 05:24:11,475
Um, I know of one instance, um,

8623
05:24:11,475 --> 05:24:14,178
decades ago where this actually

8624
05:24:14,178 --> 05:24:17,178
came up, but the individual

8625
05:24:17,248 --> 05:24:20,248
ultimately was not removed, and

8626
05:24:20,918 --> 05:24:21,386
that charge was actually coming

8627
05:24:21,386 --> 05:24:22,654
from the Housing

8628
05:24:22,654 --> 05:24:23,254
Authority board.

8629
05:24:23,254 --> 05:24:24,156
They were requesting for

8630
05:24:24,156 --> 05:24:24,989
somebody to be removed.

8631
05:24:24,989 --> 05:24:26,958
Um, like I said, I don't I

8632
05:24:26,958 --> 05:24:27,925
don't I was not aware of or

8633
05:24:27,925 --> 05:24:29,594
could not find any other

8634
05:24:29,594 --> 05:24:30,194
instances where this statutory

8635
05:24:30,194 --> 05:24:32,960
authority has actually

8636
05:24:32,960 --> 05:24:32,964
had to be utilized.

8637
05:24:32,964 --> 05:24:34,199
And last but certainly not

8638
05:24:34,199 --> 05:24:37,199
least, this is really the

8639
05:24:39,170 --> 05:24:40,171
nuclear option.

8640
05:24:40,171 --> 05:24:40,705
And that's, that's, that's to

8641
05:24:40,705 --> 05:24:42,674
be able to abolish

8642
05:24:42,674 --> 05:24:44,674
the housing authority.

8643
05:24:44,943 --> 05:24:45,744
We created them.

8644
05:24:45,744 --> 05:24:46,440
We've got the authority

8645
05:24:46,440 --> 05:24:46,811
to abolish them.

8646
05:24:46,811 --> 05:24:47,745
Um, and it's a matter of simply

8647
05:24:47,745 --> 05:24:50,145
following the procedures that

8648
05:24:51,616 --> 05:24:52,350
are laid out in the rules.

8649
05:24:52,350 --> 05:24:53,551
Um, and so if that became the

8650
05:24:53,551 --> 05:24:55,120
case, either the city would

8651
05:24:55,120 --> 05:24:58,220
have to take on their

8652
05:24:58,220 --> 05:25:00,220
responsibilities or a

8653
05:25:00,825 --> 05:25:01,392
redevelopment commission would

8654
05:25:01,392 --> 05:25:02,600
have to take on the

8655
05:25:02,600 --> 05:25:02,827
responsibilities.

8656
05:25:02,827 --> 05:25:03,494
And another option is a council

8657
05:25:03,494 --> 05:25:04,228
of governments to be able to

8658
05:25:04,228 --> 05:25:06,297
take on the responsibilities,

8659
05:25:06,297 --> 05:25:06,931
um, of the housing authority.

8660
05:25:06,931 --> 05:25:09,834
And I think for this one,

8661
05:25:09,834 --> 05:25:12,671
you're in a place where it's

8662
05:25:12,671 --> 05:25:13,237
just absolutely egregious.

8663
05:25:13,237 --> 05:25:14,205
Um, this is probably

8664
05:25:14,205 --> 05:25:16,605
not the first step.

8665
05:25:16,808 --> 05:25:17,641
Um, but it's an option.

8666
05:25:17,641 --> 05:25:18,142
It's a tool in the

8667
05:25:18,142 --> 05:25:18,910
toolbox that is out there.

8668
05:25:18,910 --> 05:25:20,111
So with that being said, I want

8669
05:25:20,111 --> 05:25:22,914
to give council an opportunity

8670
05:25:22,914 --> 05:25:25,314
to discuss, provide any

8671
05:25:25,917 --> 05:25:26,751
feedback for any tools, um,

8672
05:25:26,751 --> 05:25:29,751
that you all might be

8673
05:25:29,787 --> 05:25:30,521
interested in or any questions

8674
05:25:30,521 --> 05:25:32,256
that you might have regarding

8675
05:25:32,256 --> 05:25:34,359
our relationship with the

8676
05:25:34,359 --> 05:25:34,959
Housing Authority.

8677
05:25:34,959 --> 05:25:35,393
So the 714 units, the

8678
05:25:35,393 --> 05:25:38,290
money is paid to rent.

8679
05:25:38,290 --> 05:25:40,831
Those are paid to the

8680
05:25:40,831 --> 05:25:42,433
housing authority.

8681
05:25:42,433 --> 05:25:43,268
Correct.

8682
05:25:43,268 --> 05:25:43,735
That's correct.

8683
05:25:43,735 --> 05:25:44,135
And that's their

8684
05:25:44,135 --> 05:25:44,869
operational budget.

8685
05:25:44,869 --> 05:25:46,604
In addition to any grants they

8686
05:25:46,604 --> 05:25:48,773
MAY get from the federal or

8687
05:25:48,773 --> 05:25:49,406
state government.

8688
05:25:49,406 --> 05:25:50,274
That's correct.

8689
05:25:50,274 --> 05:25:51,800
They're running a business.

8690
05:25:51,800 --> 05:25:51,576
And when we say they give us a

8691
05:25:51,576 --> 05:25:54,576
report, what's in that report?

8692
05:25:55,790 --> 05:25:55,813
When they give it to us.

8693
05:25:55,813 --> 05:25:56,381
It typically consists of their

8694
05:25:56,381 --> 05:25:59,381
activities over the course of

8695
05:25:59,417 --> 05:26:00,217
the year.

8696
05:26:00,217 --> 05:26:00,718
So a lot of times they're

8697
05:26:00,718 --> 05:26:02,920
talking about, um, capital

8698
05:26:02,920 --> 05:26:03,621
improvement plans.

8699
05:26:03,621 --> 05:26:04,789
They're talking about their

8700
05:26:04,789 --> 05:26:08,389
portfolio in terms of how much.

8701
05:26:08,726 --> 05:26:09,960
Um, Charlie was processed.

8702
05:26:09,960 --> 05:26:10,595
Right?

8703
05:26:10,595 --> 05:26:11,950
Yep.

8704
05:26:11,950 --> 05:26:11,529
Oh, did.

8705
05:26:11,529 --> 05:26:12,263
They're 20.

8706
05:26:12,263 --> 05:26:12,831
You MAY not know the answer to

8707
05:26:12,831 --> 05:26:13,431
this, but the 2025 report they

8708
05:26:13,431 --> 05:26:15,666
gave to the City council

8709
05:26:15,666 --> 05:26:18,666
disclosed all these bad housing

8710
05:26:19,804 --> 05:26:21,138
issues they had.

8711
05:26:21,138 --> 05:26:22,406
No.

8712
05:26:22,406 --> 05:26:25,743
So is that an innocent mistake?

8713
05:26:25,743 --> 05:26:27,612
Is it neglect or is intentional?

8714
05:26:27,612 --> 05:26:28,546
Do we know that answer?

8715
05:26:28,546 --> 05:26:29,800
Um, I would say, Council Member

8716
05:26:29,800 --> 05:26:32,800
Robinson, that that is those

8717
05:26:32,450 --> 05:26:34,850
deficiencies when they came

8718
05:26:35,453 --> 05:26:36,755
to to the city staff is what

8719
05:26:36,755 --> 05:26:38,755
really raised this

8720
05:26:39,557 --> 05:26:41,792
to a higher level.

8721
05:26:41,792 --> 05:26:42,694
That's what my concern.

8722
05:26:42,694 --> 05:26:43,227
Is because, you know, clearly

8723
05:26:43,227 --> 05:26:44,610
over the last two years, the

8724
05:26:44,610 --> 05:26:47,610
the city manager's office has

8725
05:26:47,980 --> 05:26:47,832
spent a lot of time addressing

8726
05:26:47,832 --> 05:26:50,568
some of the deficiencies that

8727
05:26:50,568 --> 05:26:51,269
are happening within the units.

8728
05:26:51,269 --> 05:26:53,738
I know Council Member Forman

8729
05:26:53,738 --> 05:26:56,407
has also spent a lot of time

8730
05:26:56,407 --> 05:26:57,108
with with with with contacts.

8731
05:26:57,108 --> 05:26:58,343
We got it's got to the point

8732
05:26:58,343 --> 05:26:59,210
where when we have those

8733
05:26:59,210 --> 05:27:01,446
efficiencies we are, we are

8734
05:27:01,446 --> 05:27:02,413
alerting the full entire board

8735
05:27:02,413 --> 05:27:05,383
to make sure that not just the

8736
05:27:05,383 --> 05:27:07,783
the administrator knows that

8737
05:27:08,520 --> 05:27:08,686
the full board does.

8738
05:27:08,686 --> 05:27:09,254
But when we receive the

8739
05:27:09,254 --> 05:27:10,210
deficiencies that date back to

8740
05:27:10,210 --> 05:27:12,123
2024, that's where we asked for

8741
05:27:12,123 --> 05:27:14,425
the information to to so that

8742
05:27:14,425 --> 05:27:17,428
we could dive into it to the

8743
05:27:17,428 --> 05:27:18,563
point that we have opened up

8744
05:27:18,563 --> 05:27:21,466
Covid cases amongst all the

8745
05:27:21,466 --> 05:27:23,670
different neighborhoods and

8746
05:27:23,670 --> 05:27:25,370
where the rubber hit the road

8747
05:27:25,370 --> 05:27:26,904
was in the last report from hud

8748
05:27:26,904 --> 05:27:29,474
that basically gave the housing

8749
05:27:29,474 --> 05:27:30,341
authority like three days, or

8750
05:27:30,341 --> 05:27:32,509
they were going to suspend,

8751
05:27:32,509 --> 05:27:35,509
uh, several million dollars in

8752
05:27:35,780 --> 05:27:36,381
capital funding.

8753
05:27:36,381 --> 05:27:36,848
But I guess what, I'm

8754
05:27:36,848 --> 05:27:37,582
really not in the city.

8755
05:27:37,582 --> 05:27:38,949
What I'm getting at is, number

8756
05:27:38,949 --> 05:27:40,417
one is there should be a

8757
05:27:40,417 --> 05:27:42,817
mechanism for the tenant

8758
05:27:43,387 --> 05:27:43,988
to complain to the housing

8759
05:27:43,988 --> 05:27:45,924
authority for conditions

8760
05:27:45,924 --> 05:27:46,658
that are not up to par.

8761
05:27:46,658 --> 05:27:48,860
And there should be a protocol

8762
05:27:48,860 --> 05:27:50,395
for the Housing Commission to

8763
05:27:50,395 --> 05:27:53,395
deal with that problem, just

8764
05:27:53,430 --> 05:27:56,433
like a landlord would deal with

8765
05:27:56,433 --> 05:27:57,201
the problem.

8766
05:27:57,201 --> 05:27:57,768
And then there should be, okay,

8767
05:27:57,768 --> 05:27:58,436
we dealt with it so it doesn't

8768
05:27:58,436 --> 05:28:01,239
backlog to the point where

8769
05:28:01,239 --> 05:28:01,940
it catches so much attention.

8770
05:28:01,940 --> 05:28:03,641
The federal government comes

8771
05:28:03,641 --> 05:28:04,341
in and all of a sudden we're

8772
05:28:04,341 --> 05:28:06,310
having to go do some of the

8773
05:28:06,310 --> 05:28:09,310
work that the Housing Authority

8774
05:28:09,680 --> 05:28:10,481
should be doing.

8775
05:28:10,481 --> 05:28:11,480
So I'm kind of, you know,

8776
05:28:11,480 --> 05:28:12,550
from my standpoint from here.

8777
05:28:12,550 --> 05:28:14,950
Councilmember Forman said the

8778
05:28:15,286 --> 05:28:16,253
other things about all these

8779
05:28:16,253 --> 05:28:17,955
horrendous complaints it got

8780
05:28:17,955 --> 05:28:18,856
to the boiling point is that I

8781
05:28:18,856 --> 05:28:21,925
think we really need to take a

8782
05:28:21,925 --> 05:28:25,525
hard, close look at the housing

8783
05:28:26,430 --> 05:28:26,931
authority and look at the

8784
05:28:26,931 --> 05:28:28,366
financial side of

8785
05:28:28,366 --> 05:28:29,100
what they're doing.

8786
05:28:29,100 --> 05:28:30,234
Um, and look at the protocols

8787
05:28:30,234 --> 05:28:31,769
that have in place, because

8788
05:28:31,769 --> 05:28:33,604
none of these problems should

8789
05:28:33,604 --> 05:28:36,140
get to the level they got to.

8790
05:28:36,140 --> 05:28:36,941
And because,

8791
05:28:36,941 --> 05:28:37,442
again, we're dealing with

8792
05:28:37,442 --> 05:28:39,610
people in these conditions

8793
05:28:39,610 --> 05:28:41,980
that, you know, all those kinds

8794
05:28:41,980 --> 05:28:42,680
of problems, it's unacceptable.

8795
05:28:42,680 --> 05:28:45,680
And and quite frankly, the

8796
05:28:45,683 --> 05:28:48,830
picture that's being painted

8797
05:28:48,119 --> 05:28:48,619
for me to look at is like the

8798
05:28:48,619 --> 05:28:49,754
Housing authority

8799
05:28:49,754 --> 05:28:50,488
is doing nothing.

8800
05:28:50,488 --> 05:28:51,489
I think that when I say doing

8801
05:28:51,489 --> 05:28:52,790
nothing that didn't do anything

8802
05:28:52,790 --> 05:28:55,125
for two years because

8803
05:28:55,125 --> 05:28:55,893
it got that bad.

8804
05:28:55,893 --> 05:28:56,794
And I know this is not anywhere

8805
05:28:56,794 --> 05:28:57,962
on the city because we're

8806
05:28:57,962 --> 05:28:59,897
having to clean some

8807
05:28:59,897 --> 05:29:00,632
of this mess up.

8808
05:29:00,632 --> 05:29:01,365
But I think it's so much like

8809
05:29:01,365 --> 05:29:04,335
we need to go in and have a

8810
05:29:04,335 --> 05:29:04,835
house clean.

8811
05:29:04,835 --> 05:29:05,168
Like what's going

8812
05:29:05,168 --> 05:29:06,804
on financially?

8813
05:29:06,804 --> 05:29:07,438
Are your books in order?

8814
05:29:07,438 --> 05:29:08,205
Are you spending

8815
05:29:08,205 --> 05:29:09,730
your money wisely?

8816
05:29:09,730 --> 05:29:09,774
I mean, when the money gets

8817
05:29:09,774 --> 05:29:12,977
doled out, we have to have some

8818
05:29:12,977 --> 05:29:13,678
accounting back.

8819
05:29:13,678 --> 05:29:14,112
And this report that doesn't

8820
05:29:14,112 --> 05:29:14,846
even talk about that.

8821
05:29:14,846 --> 05:29:15,446
And then, number two, I'd like

8822
05:29:15,446 --> 05:29:16,214
to know about the protocols for

8823
05:29:16,214 --> 05:29:18,614
how complaints get received,

8824
05:29:19,250 --> 05:29:20,150
how a tenant can complain, uh,

8825
05:29:20,150 --> 05:29:23,150
what's the time frame from

8826
05:29:23,153 --> 05:29:23,654
trying to fix that problem?

8827
05:29:23,654 --> 05:29:25,356
And the financial

8828
05:29:25,356 --> 05:29:25,890
side is not there.

8829
05:29:25,890 --> 05:29:27,425
What do they do to

8830
05:29:27,425 --> 05:29:28,325
try and mitigate that?

8831
05:29:28,325 --> 05:29:30,270
Because if somebody's getting

8832
05:29:30,270 --> 05:29:31,963
too much money in the federal

8833
05:29:31,963 --> 05:29:32,463
government, because as many

8834
05:29:32,463 --> 05:29:34,310
problems it seems

8835
05:29:34,310 --> 05:29:34,666
like they've had.

8836
05:29:34,666 --> 05:29:36,330
I mean, if this were an

8837
05:29:36,330 --> 05:29:37,535
ordinary business and people

8838
05:29:37,535 --> 05:29:40,300
had already been fired and

8839
05:29:40,300 --> 05:29:40,571
gotten rid of a long time ago,

8840
05:29:40,571 --> 05:29:42,606
I think and I think

8841
05:29:42,606 --> 05:29:43,374
one of the tools.

8842
05:29:43,374 --> 05:29:44,608
In the toolbox that

8843
05:29:44,608 --> 05:29:46,608
Alexander went through.

8844
05:29:48,145 --> 05:29:49,800
Is the ability.

8845
05:29:49,800 --> 05:29:49,647
If council would like for us to

8846
05:29:49,647 --> 05:29:50,315
pursue more information about

8847
05:29:50,315 --> 05:29:52,416
this is what it would take

8848
05:29:52,416 --> 05:29:54,318
to actually, um, Transition

8849
05:29:54,318 --> 05:29:56,621
Housing Authority to be such as

8850
05:29:56,621 --> 05:29:58,222
an enterprise fund of the city

8851
05:29:58,222 --> 05:30:01,222
or basically the city would

8852
05:30:01,225 --> 05:30:02,293
maintain that fund budget, that

8853
05:30:02,293 --> 05:30:05,293
fund control the revenues, the

8854
05:30:05,329 --> 05:30:08,929
expenses coming in and out of

8855
05:30:10,167 --> 05:30:10,902
the door.

8856
05:30:10,902 --> 05:30:11,435
That would give more oversight

8857
05:30:11,435 --> 05:30:13,400
and give us more input into

8858
05:30:13,400 --> 05:30:16,400
those day to day internal

8859
05:30:16,400 --> 05:30:16,774
controls with concerns to not

8860
05:30:16,774 --> 05:30:19,276
only the work orders with what

8861
05:30:19,276 --> 05:30:20,144
you speak of is the processing

8862
05:30:20,144 --> 05:30:22,544
workforce, how they are

8863
05:30:23,800 --> 05:30:23,814
handled, but also a major

8864
05:30:23,814 --> 05:30:26,214
component of their financial

8865
05:30:26,851 --> 05:30:27,618
operations is the rent piece.

8866
05:30:27,618 --> 05:30:29,753
And in we we have many examples

8867
05:30:29,753 --> 05:30:32,753
of how there's a significant

8868
05:30:33,924 --> 05:30:36,924
amount of confusion and how

8869
05:30:36,961 --> 05:30:39,630
rents are applied and and how

8870
05:30:39,630 --> 05:30:42,300
payments are applied to

8871
05:30:42,667 --> 05:30:43,567
individual accounts that make

8872
05:30:43,567 --> 05:30:46,604
it very difficult for not only

8873
05:30:46,604 --> 05:30:47,371
the tenants to understand what

8874
05:30:47,371 --> 05:30:50,371
their balances are, but even

8875
05:30:50,441 --> 05:30:51,750
from the outside looking in the

8876
05:30:51,750 --> 05:30:53,143
city of Greenville, being

8877
05:30:53,143 --> 05:30:53,744
able to understand those.

8878
05:30:53,744 --> 05:30:55,212
That's why that's that's

8879
05:30:55,212 --> 05:30:57,148
ability is in the state law is

8880
05:30:57,148 --> 05:31:00,151
to allow the city to have more

8881
05:31:00,151 --> 05:31:00,885
oversight into the financial

8882
05:31:00,885 --> 05:31:03,885
operations, and if it would

8883
05:31:03,921 --> 05:31:05,220
be the will of the council, we

8884
05:31:05,220 --> 05:31:08,220
would we would look further

8885
05:31:08,260 --> 05:31:10,561
into that and see what that

8886
05:31:10,561 --> 05:31:11,328
would look like.

8887
05:31:11,328 --> 05:31:11,895
I'd like to go in and just look

8888
05:31:11,895 --> 05:31:12,830
and see what the problems are.

8889
05:31:12,830 --> 05:31:15,632
I mean, we know what the

8890
05:31:15,632 --> 05:31:18,632
symptoms are, but what causes

8891
05:31:19,570 --> 05:31:20,338
those symptoms?

8892
05:31:20,338 --> 05:31:21,204
I mean, you know, get in there.

8893
05:31:21,204 --> 05:31:21,739
And I'm like, did you have a

8894
05:31:21,739 --> 05:31:22,473
protocol for addressing, uh,

8895
05:31:22,473 --> 05:31:24,473
complaints that the

8896
05:31:25,342 --> 05:31:27,278
tenants knew about?

8897
05:31:27,278 --> 05:31:28,980
And then once it would receive,

8898
05:31:28,980 --> 05:31:29,547
what happened to that complaint?

8899
05:31:29,547 --> 05:31:30,815
Who was it delivered

8900
05:31:30,815 --> 05:31:33,840
to to get remedied?

8901
05:31:33,840 --> 05:31:33,584
And third, if there was a money

8902
05:31:33,584 --> 05:31:35,286
issue, how do you

8903
05:31:35,286 --> 05:31:35,987
deal with that?

8904
05:31:35,987 --> 05:31:36,987
I mean, because from what I,

8905
05:31:36,987 --> 05:31:37,621
I MAY be wrong about this.

8906
05:31:37,621 --> 05:31:39,621
It doesn't sound

8907
05:31:39,957 --> 05:31:40,791
like any report.

8908
05:31:40,791 --> 05:31:41,626
We don't have enough money

8909
05:31:41,626 --> 05:31:43,861
to fix all these issues.

8910
05:31:43,861 --> 05:31:44,461
That's why we hadn't fixed them.

8911
05:31:44,461 --> 05:31:45,430
And that's where it's

8912
05:31:45,430 --> 05:31:46,330
unsettling to have hud come in

8913
05:31:46,330 --> 05:31:49,300
and say, we were one step away

8914
05:31:49,300 --> 05:31:50,100
from from freezing and taking

8915
05:31:50,100 --> 05:31:53,100
away all your capital funds,

8916
05:31:53,137 --> 05:31:53,670
which I don't want to believe

8917
05:31:53,670 --> 05:31:55,306
was up to the tune

8918
05:31:55,306 --> 05:31:55,806
of like 5.5 million.

8919
05:31:55,806 --> 05:31:57,708
Yeah, it was, and

8920
05:31:57,708 --> 05:31:58,509
that's embarrassing.

8921
05:31:58,509 --> 05:32:00,244
You know, we're not the

8922
05:32:00,244 --> 05:32:02,247
one that's doing it, but.

8923
05:32:02,247 --> 05:32:02,947
We.

8924
05:32:02,947 --> 05:32:03,480
Have oversight.

8925
05:32:03,480 --> 05:32:04,415
This is not a big.

8926
05:32:04,415 --> 05:32:06,815
Spreadsheet full of new.

8927
05:32:08,586 --> 05:32:09,286
Nickels and Penny.

8928
05:32:09,286 --> 05:32:10,870
Not just for.

8929
05:32:10,870 --> 05:32:10,921
A practical standpoint.

8930
05:32:10,921 --> 05:32:11,455
You know, if I were in the

8931
05:32:11,455 --> 05:32:12,690
private business and had 714

8932
05:32:12,690 --> 05:32:15,259
units as a landlord, I

8933
05:32:15,259 --> 05:32:18,859
mean, that's a lot of units.

8934
05:32:19,797 --> 05:32:20,531
And you got to be organized.

8935
05:32:20,531 --> 05:32:21,650
You would have a mechanism to

8936
05:32:21,650 --> 05:32:23,701
collect the rents and have a

8937
05:32:23,701 --> 05:32:24,401
way to deal with the complaints.

8938
05:32:24,401 --> 05:32:24,935
Otherwise, your tenants, you

8939
05:32:24,935 --> 05:32:25,836
lose business because you're

8940
05:32:25,836 --> 05:32:28,836
tenants that were in the

8941
05:32:28,872 --> 05:32:31,108
real world could leave and go

8942
05:32:31,108 --> 05:32:31,742
somewhere else.

8943
05:32:31,742 --> 05:32:32,276
But these tenants don't

8944
05:32:32,276 --> 05:32:32,976
have that financial ability.

8945
05:32:32,976 --> 05:32:34,770
Now to interject real quick,

8946
05:32:34,770 --> 05:32:34,912
um, because, uh, unless I

8947
05:32:34,912 --> 05:32:36,912
appreciate everything you

8948
05:32:37,915 --> 05:32:38,649
just said, because you have

8949
05:32:38,649 --> 05:32:40,450
described everything that I've

8950
05:32:40,450 --> 05:32:41,185
been dealing with for the last

8951
05:32:41,185 --> 05:32:43,220
two and a half years, and, um,

8952
05:32:43,220 --> 05:32:46,257
and that that is more than 714

8953
05:32:46,257 --> 05:32:48,657
units, that's 714 families that

8954
05:32:48,792 --> 05:32:52,392
have been, most of them living

8955
05:32:55,732 --> 05:32:56,267
in substandard conditions.

8956
05:32:56,267 --> 05:32:57,869
And we do not have

8957
05:32:57,869 --> 05:32:59,670
answers about financials.

8958
05:32:59,670 --> 05:33:02,306
There has not been a lot of

8959
05:33:02,306 --> 05:33:03,273
transparency as it relates to

8960
05:33:03,273 --> 05:33:05,273
your question about

8961
05:33:06,209 --> 05:33:06,812
the work order process.

8962
05:33:06,812 --> 05:33:08,812
I've been questioning

8963
05:33:09,800 --> 05:33:12,800
that for over two years.

8964
05:33:12,616 --> 05:33:13,484
It is a paper process.

8965
05:33:13,484 --> 05:33:14,451
Um, the citizens fill out a

8966
05:33:14,451 --> 05:33:18,510
paper form that goes into some

8967
05:33:20,691 --> 05:33:23,691
kind of abyss and, um.

8968
05:33:23,961 --> 05:33:25,362
A black box.

8969
05:33:25,362 --> 05:33:26,264
That's why.

8970
05:33:26,264 --> 05:33:27,331
That's right.

8971
05:33:27,331 --> 05:33:27,864
They do not get a, uh, any type

8972
05:33:27,864 --> 05:33:30,264
of written confirmation that

8973
05:33:31,903 --> 05:33:32,637
the form was received.

8974
05:33:32,637 --> 05:33:33,337
That gives any timeline of how

8975
05:33:33,337 --> 05:33:35,506
things might be remedied, and

8976
05:33:35,506 --> 05:33:38,375
then any follow up to

8977
05:33:38,375 --> 05:33:39,243
see if it was done.

8978
05:33:39,243 --> 05:33:42,112
You know, to, uh, any

8979
05:33:42,112 --> 05:33:43,947
satisfaction or if it was

8980
05:33:43,947 --> 05:33:46,347
brought back up to

8981
05:33:46,750 --> 05:33:48,750
standard or code.

8982
05:33:49,753 --> 05:33:50,454
Um, in addition to that, there

8983
05:33:50,454 --> 05:33:52,656
is a great deal of

8984
05:33:52,656 --> 05:33:53,357
fear factor there.

8985
05:33:53,357 --> 05:33:55,525
Uh, we're dealing with, uh,

8986
05:33:55,525 --> 05:33:56,626
some of the and I would say

8987
05:33:56,626 --> 05:33:59,530
the, uh, people on the lowest

8988
05:33:59,530 --> 05:34:00,397
socioeconomic rung of the

8989
05:34:00,397 --> 05:34:03,301
ladder in our community, um,

8990
05:34:03,301 --> 05:34:04,234
that has been aiding in the

8991
05:34:04,234 --> 05:34:07,234
process of us dealing with

8992
05:34:07,271 --> 05:34:08,873
homelessness in our community,

8993
05:34:08,873 --> 05:34:11,273
because when when these

8994
05:34:11,876 --> 05:34:14,276
families lose housing, they

8995
05:34:16,781 --> 05:34:17,348
don't have anywhere else to go.

8996
05:34:17,348 --> 05:34:19,249
That's why I've been

8997
05:34:19,249 --> 05:34:21,649
so passionate about it.

8998
05:34:21,785 --> 05:34:23,320
Um, and so we have got to

8999
05:34:23,320 --> 05:34:25,550
take the reins in some type

9000
05:34:25,550 --> 05:34:26,957
of fashion because people are

9001
05:34:26,957 --> 05:34:28,957
struggling and suffering

9002
05:34:29,960 --> 05:34:31,696
families and children, when we

9003
05:34:31,696 --> 05:34:34,731
talk about the crime rate and

9004
05:34:34,731 --> 05:34:35,433
things that we're experiencing

9005
05:34:35,433 --> 05:34:37,833
in our community, that

9006
05:34:38,369 --> 05:34:41,369
is a byproduct of that.

9007
05:34:41,405 --> 05:34:42,639
That's a byproduct of that.

9008
05:34:42,639 --> 05:34:43,307
When they're when they're

9009
05:34:43,307 --> 05:34:46,307
housing and food insecure and

9010
05:34:46,477 --> 05:34:47,745
living in these conditions.

9011
05:34:47,745 --> 05:34:48,445
I've taken Michael out.

9012
05:34:48,445 --> 05:34:49,880
Um, the in 2024, I realized

9013
05:34:49,880 --> 05:34:52,449
that I was putting so many

9014
05:34:52,449 --> 05:34:55,449
hours every week into answering

9015
05:34:55,452 --> 05:34:58,122
housing authority calls that me

9016
05:34:58,122 --> 05:35:00,122
just sharing information

9017
05:35:01,125 --> 05:35:01,825
was not going to work, so I

9018
05:35:01,825 --> 05:35:03,825
personally started pointing

9019
05:35:04,327 --> 05:35:06,797
them to the city so that city

9020
05:35:06,797 --> 05:35:08,797
management would feel

9021
05:35:09,667 --> 05:35:10,434
what I was feeling.

9022
05:35:10,434 --> 05:35:11,669
And this is where how we got to

9023
05:35:11,669 --> 05:35:13,137
this place, because all of us

9024
05:35:13,137 --> 05:35:16,137
have been putting in work

9025
05:35:16,173 --> 05:35:19,173
monthly that other people are

9026
05:35:19,477 --> 05:35:20,777
getting paid for.

9027
05:35:20,777 --> 05:35:21,345
And I would complain about that.

9028
05:35:21,345 --> 05:35:23,547
Yes, because it has

9029
05:35:23,547 --> 05:35:24,447
taken a lot of my time.

9030
05:35:24,447 --> 05:35:26,250
But what hurts me the most is

9031
05:35:26,250 --> 05:35:28,180
that I know from what I have

9032
05:35:28,180 --> 05:35:31,210
seen and felt, and so have

9033
05:35:31,210 --> 05:35:33,157
council, um, Council Member

9034
05:35:33,157 --> 05:35:36,157
Jones, that these people are

9035
05:35:36,160 --> 05:35:38,560
struggling and suffering and

9036
05:35:40,597 --> 05:35:41,432
oftentimes inhumane conditions.

9037
05:35:41,432 --> 05:35:42,866
And yes, there's a limited

9038
05:35:42,866 --> 05:35:44,968
amount of capital improvement

9039
05:35:44,968 --> 05:35:46,968
funds that are

9040
05:35:47,838 --> 05:35:48,472
allocated each year.

9041
05:35:48,472 --> 05:35:49,774
However, if you're very

9042
05:35:49,774 --> 05:35:52,774
intentional in how you use

9043
05:35:53,544 --> 05:35:54,178
capital improvement funds.

9044
05:35:54,178 --> 05:35:55,312
Then you can fix

9045
05:35:55,312 --> 05:35:56,914
things in a rotation,

9046
05:35:56,914 --> 05:35:58,882
fix a certain number of units,

9047
05:35:58,882 --> 05:36:02,482
move in, or move people into

9048
05:36:04,788 --> 05:36:05,789
those units.

9049
05:36:05,789 --> 05:36:06,690
Fix the next section of units.

9050
05:36:06,690 --> 05:36:07,858
If things have been managed in

9051
05:36:07,858 --> 05:36:11,458
some type of, uh, fashion with

9052
05:36:12,329 --> 05:36:12,964
some level of intent.

9053
05:36:12,964 --> 05:36:13,864
I think we would at least

9054
05:36:13,864 --> 05:36:14,732
be in a better place.

9055
05:36:14,732 --> 05:36:17,100
We might not be in an ideal

9056
05:36:17,100 --> 05:36:18,168
position, but we would be in a

9057
05:36:18,168 --> 05:36:20,168
lot better position

9058
05:36:21,105 --> 05:36:23,441
than what we're in now.

9059
05:36:23,441 --> 05:36:25,209
And this is not right.

9060
05:36:25,209 --> 05:36:25,876
What goes on in the Housing

9061
05:36:25,876 --> 05:36:26,910
Authority impacts

9062
05:36:26,910 --> 05:36:28,910
the entire community.

9063
05:36:29,713 --> 05:36:32,449
And so we have a responsibility.

9064
05:36:32,449 --> 05:36:33,384
And I'm saying this to everyone.

9065
05:36:33,384 --> 05:36:33,950
I ask them to do this overview,

9066
05:36:33,950 --> 05:36:35,886
because I want all of us to be

9067
05:36:35,886 --> 05:36:38,622
abreast on what's going on

9068
05:36:38,622 --> 05:36:39,423
and what our citizens are

9069
05:36:39,423 --> 05:36:41,423
struggling and suffering

9070
05:36:42,930 --> 05:36:45,930
through, but you hear every

9071
05:36:45,128 --> 05:36:47,864
single point in your questions.

9072
05:36:47,864 --> 05:36:49,466
So with that being said,

9073
05:36:49,466 --> 05:36:51,134
Councilmember Forman's Comments.

9074
05:36:51,134 --> 05:36:52,469
I would ask council if didn't

9075
05:36:52,469 --> 05:36:53,871
the thumbs up for half of our

9076
05:36:53,871 --> 05:36:55,871
Financial services department

9077
05:36:56,907 --> 05:36:58,375
research further what it would

9078
05:36:58,375 --> 05:37:01,345
what it would look like with it

9079
05:37:01,345 --> 05:37:02,580
into for the AlphaTauri to be

9080
05:37:02,580 --> 05:37:05,616
an enterprise fund and as a

9081
05:37:05,616 --> 05:37:06,383
part of that would probably be

9082
05:37:06,383 --> 05:37:08,718
a very strong financial review,

9083
05:37:08,718 --> 05:37:10,354
not only of their finances, but

9084
05:37:10,354 --> 05:37:13,354
also of their procedures, their

9085
05:37:13,424 --> 05:37:14,158
internal controls, are they not

9086
05:37:14,158 --> 05:37:16,460
only to work orders, but also

9087
05:37:16,460 --> 05:37:19,460
to the application of rent

9088
05:37:20,564 --> 05:37:21,365
payments as well?

9089
05:37:21,365 --> 05:37:21,865
I would like to see the

9090
05:37:21,865 --> 05:37:22,532
financial audit and also a

9091
05:37:22,532 --> 05:37:24,734
critical analysis of their

9092
05:37:24,734 --> 05:37:26,734
operating procedures.

9093
05:37:27,237 --> 05:37:28,171
That and that MAY require.

9094
05:37:28,171 --> 05:37:29,106
We'll we'll direct our our

9095
05:37:29,106 --> 05:37:30,600
chief financial officer Jacob

9096
05:37:30,600 --> 05:37:32,576
Joiner to to start putting the

9097
05:37:32,576 --> 05:37:34,976
thoughts together what that

9098
05:37:35,512 --> 05:37:36,146
would look like.

9099
05:37:36,146 --> 05:37:36,713
It MAY require an outside

9100
05:37:36,713 --> 05:37:38,348
review of the of the financial

9101
05:37:38,348 --> 05:37:40,348
statements and the

9102
05:37:41,184 --> 05:37:42,786
internal controls.

9103
05:37:42,786 --> 05:37:43,287
But I think this is the you

9104
05:37:43,287 --> 05:37:44,721
know, I will echo

9105
05:37:44,721 --> 05:37:45,489
those of the council.

9106
05:37:45,489 --> 05:37:46,790
I think we've got an obligation

9107
05:37:46,790 --> 05:37:47,825
to the citizens of those

9108
05:37:47,825 --> 05:37:50,225
communities because first and

9109
05:37:50,794 --> 05:37:51,595
foremost, they're they're not.

9110
05:37:51,595 --> 05:37:53,563
They're not citizens of

9111
05:37:53,563 --> 05:37:54,231
the Housing Authority.

9112
05:37:54,231 --> 05:37:55,499
They're they're

9113
05:37:55,499 --> 05:37:56,199
sent by the city.

9114
05:37:56,199 --> 05:37:57,101
Absolutely. That's

9115
05:37:57,101 --> 05:37:58,202
where we're here.

9116
05:37:58,202 --> 05:37:59,403
So we owe the same amount of

9117
05:37:59,403 --> 05:38:02,339
due diligence for for those

9118
05:38:02,339 --> 05:38:04,339
individuals as we

9119
05:38:05,141 --> 05:38:05,842
do anyone else.

9120
05:38:05,842 --> 05:38:07,278
And that would be the first

9121
05:38:07,278 --> 05:38:10,147
step to bring back an overview

9122
05:38:10,147 --> 05:38:11,548
of what that would look like.

9123
05:38:11,548 --> 05:38:12,215
The council.

9124
05:38:12,215 --> 05:38:12,983
Thank you.

9125
05:38:12,983 --> 05:38:13,651
If you give a thumbs up.

9126
05:38:13,651 --> 05:38:14,618
Yeah.

9127
05:38:14,618 --> 05:38:16,787
Had a good one.

9128
05:38:16,787 --> 05:38:17,688
Oh, absolutely.

9129
05:38:17,688 --> 05:38:18,255
Okay.

9130
05:38:18,255 --> 05:38:20,255
All right.

9131
05:38:20,624 --> 05:38:20,958
We will move on

9132
05:38:20,958 --> 05:38:21,992
to the next item.

9133
05:38:21,992 --> 05:38:23,594
We have a second item is a

9134
05:38:23,594 --> 05:38:24,928
code enforcement update of the

9135
05:38:24,928 --> 05:38:26,928
internet over to

9136
05:38:27,798 --> 05:38:29,798
City manager domain.

9137
05:38:30,533 --> 05:38:31,368
Okay.

9138
05:38:31,368 --> 05:38:34,204
I thought that was posted.

9139
05:38:34,204 --> 05:38:35,438
Nope.

9140
05:38:35,438 --> 05:38:36,506
Switch it out.

9141
05:38:36,506 --> 05:38:37,575
Oh, it's going down right.

9142
05:38:37,575 --> 05:38:38,142
All right, so as the manager,

9143
05:38:38,142 --> 05:38:41,742
Callahan said, this will be an

9144
05:38:41,979 --> 05:38:43,680
update on our code enforcement.

9145
05:38:43,680 --> 05:38:44,248
And so just some background

9146
05:38:44,248 --> 05:38:47,618
staff last came to you all in

9147
05:38:47,618 --> 05:38:50,487
MAY to talk about a new

9148
05:38:50,487 --> 05:38:51,588
direction for our Code

9149
05:38:51,588 --> 05:38:53,988
Enforcement division, and laid

9150
05:38:54,625 --> 05:38:58,825
out a plan of action in terms

9151
05:38:59,129 --> 05:38:59,763
of what that would look like.

9152
05:38:59,763 --> 05:39:00,430
Simply based on Council's

9153
05:39:00,430 --> 05:39:03,430
goals and priorities that are

9154
05:39:04,167 --> 05:39:04,935
enumerated here.

9155
05:39:04,935 --> 05:39:05,402
Proactively enhancing

9156
05:39:05,402 --> 05:39:06,369
our community engagement.

9157
05:39:06,369 --> 05:39:08,380
Most importantly, building

9158
05:39:08,380 --> 05:39:08,939
a thriving and attractive

9159
05:39:08,939 --> 05:39:10,574
community by creating

9160
05:39:10,574 --> 05:39:11,241
meaningful access to

9161
05:39:11,241 --> 05:39:12,509
affordable, habitable, and

9162
05:39:12,509 --> 05:39:13,143
quality housing for all

9163
05:39:13,143 --> 05:39:15,543
citizens, and then make

9164
05:39:15,579 --> 05:39:16,179
Greenville a destination

9165
05:39:16,179 --> 05:39:18,115
community in place for

9166
05:39:18,115 --> 05:39:18,882
all people to call home.

9167
05:39:18,882 --> 05:39:20,517
So, like I said, moving forward

9168
05:39:20,517 --> 05:39:23,517
with those those goals and

9169
05:39:23,586 --> 05:39:24,321
priorities in mind.

9170
05:39:24,321 --> 05:39:24,922
Um, we presented a, an action

9171
05:39:24,922 --> 05:39:26,956
plan to you all that was

9172
05:39:26,956 --> 05:39:28,956
essentially based upon

9173
05:39:29,959 --> 05:39:30,827
three, three prongs proactive

9174
05:39:30,827 --> 05:39:32,827
compliance and enforcement,

9175
05:39:33,531 --> 05:39:35,931
outreach and education, and

9176
05:39:36,666 --> 05:39:37,301
then case management.

9177
05:39:37,301 --> 05:39:38,100
So really working towards

9178
05:39:38,100 --> 05:39:38,702
getting to a place where we are

9179
05:39:38,702 --> 05:39:40,702
consistently addressing our

9180
05:39:40,971 --> 05:39:43,371
minimum housing issues, um,

9181
05:39:44,341 --> 05:39:45,800
throughout the city.

9182
05:39:45,800 --> 05:39:45,409
So this is just

9183
05:39:45,409 --> 05:39:47,409
the three prongs.

9184
05:39:49,746 --> 05:39:52,480
Um, within that proposed action

9185
05:39:52,480 --> 05:39:52,749
plan came some short term goals.

9186
05:39:52,749 --> 05:39:54,317
Um, focus on evaluating our

9187
05:39:54,317 --> 05:39:55,252
city ordinances, building out

9188
05:39:55,252 --> 05:39:57,652
and implementation of updated

9189
05:39:57,721 --> 05:39:59,230
technology solutions, training

9190
05:39:59,230 --> 05:40:01,230
and development, some

9191
05:40:01,925 --> 05:40:03,925
outreach and engagement.

9192
05:40:04,361 --> 05:40:04,861
And then we saw some

9193
05:40:04,861 --> 05:40:05,963
opportunity for

9194
05:40:05,963 --> 05:40:06,864
council direction.

9195
05:40:06,864 --> 05:40:08,766
Um, additionally, we had some

9196
05:40:08,766 --> 05:40:09,733
long term goals that came along

9197
05:40:09,733 --> 05:40:12,302
with the plan of action, uh, to

9198
05:40:12,302 --> 05:40:12,902
really get us to a place where

9199
05:40:12,902 --> 05:40:15,302
we were evaluating our

9200
05:40:15,372 --> 05:40:16,730
resources and being able to

9201
05:40:16,730 --> 05:40:17,908
make informed decisions and

9202
05:40:17,908 --> 05:40:19,143
getting in a consistent cycle

9203
05:40:19,143 --> 05:40:21,543
of us, um, evaluating

9204
05:40:21,911 --> 05:40:23,911
our processes.

9205
05:40:24,881 --> 05:40:25,482
So we are back today to talk

9206
05:40:25,482 --> 05:40:29,820
about how we have moved our

9207
05:40:31,721 --> 05:40:32,322
action plan forward.

9208
05:40:32,322 --> 05:40:33,156
Um, in terms of the case

9209
05:40:33,156 --> 05:40:34,158
management piece with our

9210
05:40:34,158 --> 05:40:35,626
technology, we have completed

9211
05:40:35,626 --> 05:40:39,196
our evaluation of our city code

9212
05:40:39,196 --> 05:40:40,130
of ordinances.

9213
05:40:40,130 --> 05:40:40,764
We are looking at moving

9214
05:40:40,764 --> 05:40:41,632
forward with our

9215
05:40:41,632 --> 05:40:42,199
outreach and engagement.

9216
05:40:42,199 --> 05:40:43,633
Um, and we have also

9217
05:40:43,633 --> 05:40:44,535
implemented a, um, an

9218
05:40:44,535 --> 05:40:46,535
additional initiative really

9219
05:40:47,104 --> 05:40:47,905
focused on vacant and abandoned

9220
05:40:47,905 --> 05:40:49,906
structures and being able

9221
05:40:49,906 --> 05:40:50,607
to overlay those with public

9222
05:40:50,607 --> 05:40:53,510
safety issues to be able to

9223
05:40:53,510 --> 05:40:54,144
start cases and move those

9224
05:40:54,144 --> 05:40:56,146
along to clean up some of

9225
05:40:56,146 --> 05:40:56,914
the blight in the community.

9226
05:40:56,914 --> 05:40:58,782
So first and foremost, with our

9227
05:40:58,782 --> 05:41:01,117
case management piece, one of

9228
05:41:01,117 --> 05:41:04,117
the biggest pieces of this

9229
05:41:04,120 --> 05:41:05,220
is the the technology piece.

9230
05:41:05,220 --> 05:41:07,791
Um, and so we have, like

9231
05:41:07,791 --> 05:41:10,791
I said, move forward with

9232
05:41:11,728 --> 05:41:12,328
evaluating that.

9233
05:41:12,328 --> 05:41:12,796
I do have, um, William

9234
05:41:12,796 --> 05:41:15,165
Mills who is in the room.

9235
05:41:15,165 --> 05:41:17,134
He is our assistant director.

9236
05:41:17,134 --> 05:41:18,680
Uh, with our community and

9237
05:41:18,680 --> 05:41:18,802
development services department.

9238
05:41:18,802 --> 05:41:19,703
And he has worked very closely

9239
05:41:19,703 --> 05:41:23,903
with our teams in the use of

9240
05:41:24,708 --> 05:41:25,442
Inner Grove.

9241
05:41:25,442 --> 05:41:26,430
We've got a system internally

9242
05:41:26,430 --> 05:41:26,676
that we use called Inner Grove.

9243
05:41:26,676 --> 05:41:28,812
Um, to really get that to

9244
05:41:28,812 --> 05:41:30,180
a place where it is, um,

9245
05:41:30,180 --> 05:41:32,180
enhanced, our

9246
05:41:33,500 --> 05:41:35,500
workflows are updated.

9247
05:41:35,485 --> 05:41:36,219
Um, what have you.

9248
05:41:36,219 --> 05:41:36,586
I'm going to switch

9249
05:41:36,586 --> 05:41:37,254
to the next slide.

9250
05:41:37,254 --> 05:41:37,854
Yeah, to the back.

9251
05:41:37,854 --> 05:41:38,389
Sure. Okay.

9252
05:41:38,389 --> 05:41:39,220
All right.

9253
05:41:39,220 --> 05:41:39,456
So make sure our

9254
05:41:39,456 --> 05:41:40,190
workflows are updated.

9255
05:41:40,190 --> 05:41:40,891
And then really being able to

9256
05:41:40,891 --> 05:41:42,392
implement some Automation for

9257
05:41:42,392 --> 05:41:44,792
those system functions to

9258
05:41:45,328 --> 05:41:45,829
create more effectiveness

9259
05:41:45,829 --> 05:41:47,698
amongst our teams

9260
05:41:47,698 --> 05:41:48,298
and more efficiency.

9261
05:41:48,298 --> 05:41:49,967
Along with this came the

9262
05:41:49,967 --> 05:41:51,334
deployment of tablets that our

9263
05:41:51,334 --> 05:41:54,400
officers are now able to use

9264
05:41:54,400 --> 05:41:54,938
in the field to initiate cases

9265
05:41:54,938 --> 05:41:57,540
versus them having to come back

9266
05:41:57,540 --> 05:42:00,610
to the office and really do

9267
05:42:00,610 --> 05:42:01,344
that administrative piece.

9268
05:42:01,344 --> 05:42:01,878
They're not able to do all of

9269
05:42:01,878 --> 05:42:02,579
that in the field, start the

9270
05:42:02,579 --> 05:42:03,747
case, take the pictures, log

9271
05:42:03,747 --> 05:42:06,147
any necessary information in

9272
05:42:07,818 --> 05:42:08,384
terms of contact, what have you.

9273
05:42:08,384 --> 05:42:09,886
Like I said, on site

9274
05:42:09,886 --> 05:42:10,586
with with the violation.

9275
05:42:10,586 --> 05:42:12,622
Um, another important piece

9276
05:42:12,622 --> 05:42:13,523
that comes with case management

9277
05:42:13,523 --> 05:42:15,523
management is the

9278
05:42:15,659 --> 05:42:16,426
reporting piece.

9279
05:42:16,426 --> 05:42:17,194
And so I do want to acknowledge

9280
05:42:17,194 --> 05:42:17,894
that the request that council

9281
05:42:17,894 --> 05:42:19,663
made in MAY, um, for you all

9282
05:42:19,663 --> 05:42:21,980
to be able to receive monthly

9283
05:42:21,980 --> 05:42:24,100
reports as it relates to all

9284
05:42:24,100 --> 05:42:25,201
of our cases in the system.

9285
05:42:25,201 --> 05:42:28,710
Um, and so we have moved

9286
05:42:28,710 --> 05:42:28,839
forward with some significant

9287
05:42:28,839 --> 05:42:31,108
data cleanup in terms of

9288
05:42:31,108 --> 05:42:31,842
our inner Grove system.

9289
05:42:31,842 --> 05:42:33,877
Um, and then recognizing that

9290
05:42:33,877 --> 05:42:35,312
that is the reporting is really

9291
05:42:35,312 --> 05:42:38,215
tied to us getting up

9292
05:42:38,215 --> 05:42:38,949
and running efficiently.

9293
05:42:38,949 --> 05:42:41,485
Um, and so I do know that the

9294
05:42:41,485 --> 05:42:42,586
team has had meetings today and

9295
05:42:42,586 --> 05:42:45,555
within the last week with Inner

9296
05:42:45,555 --> 05:42:46,256
Growth to really get those

9297
05:42:46,256 --> 05:42:47,925
workflows written, how they

9298
05:42:47,925 --> 05:42:48,659
should be written, and be able

9299
05:42:48,659 --> 05:42:50,326
to get to a place where we are

9300
05:42:50,326 --> 05:42:51,295
implementing those so we can

9301
05:42:51,295 --> 05:42:53,695
get to consistent case

9302
05:42:54,231 --> 05:42:54,931
management and reporting.

9303
05:42:54,931 --> 05:42:56,833
Um, this is just a snapshot

9304
05:42:56,833 --> 05:42:57,567
in time of reporting.

9305
05:42:57,567 --> 05:42:59,503
Like I said, we last

9306
05:42:59,503 --> 05:43:00,170
came to you all in MAY.

9307
05:43:00,170 --> 05:43:01,538
Um, and so I want to point

9308
05:43:01,538 --> 05:43:04,700
out the JUNE and JULY piece in

9309
05:43:04,700 --> 05:43:06,944
terms of the minimum housing,

9310
05:43:06,944 --> 05:43:07,810
and that there has been a

9311
05:43:07,810 --> 05:43:10,210
significant increase in terms

9312
05:43:10,847 --> 05:43:14,447
of the caseloads as it relates

9313
05:43:14,852 --> 05:43:15,618
to that particular case type.

9314
05:43:15,618 --> 05:43:16,553
And that is really attributable

9315
05:43:16,553 --> 05:43:18,388
to, um, three instances, one

9316
05:43:18,388 --> 05:43:21,388
being what I mentioned earlier

9317
05:43:21,458 --> 05:43:22,158
with the Housing Authority, and

9318
05:43:22,158 --> 05:43:24,428
that notice we got from hud,

9319
05:43:24,428 --> 05:43:25,280
where we did a full court press

9320
05:43:25,280 --> 05:43:27,664
to start cases, um, on

9321
05:43:27,664 --> 05:43:30,640
all units within certain

9322
05:43:31,935 --> 05:43:32,435
neighborhoods that were

9323
05:43:32,435 --> 05:43:32,869
identified within

9324
05:43:32,869 --> 05:43:33,437
that hud report.

9325
05:43:33,437 --> 05:43:34,905
Um, and so that has

9326
05:43:34,905 --> 05:43:35,905
led to a large influx.

9327
05:43:35,905 --> 05:43:38,575
Um, one of the other points in

9328
05:43:38,575 --> 05:43:39,743
time is the vacant abandoned

9329
05:43:39,743 --> 05:43:41,743
structure piece that

9330
05:43:42,612 --> 05:43:43,380
I mentioned earlier.

9331
05:43:43,380 --> 05:43:44,281
And so we have taken, um, about

9332
05:43:44,281 --> 05:43:46,490
70 or 80 properties, and we

9333
05:43:46,490 --> 05:43:49,490
have overlaid those with public

9334
05:43:49,850 --> 05:43:50,530
safety calls for service to be

9335
05:43:50,530 --> 05:43:53,530
able to prioritize, um, those

9336
05:43:53,123 --> 05:43:54,324
particular units throughout the

9337
05:43:54,324 --> 05:43:57,327
community, um, that we can run

9338
05:43:57,327 --> 05:43:58,528
through the, the processes.

9339
05:43:58,528 --> 05:44:01,431
And like I said, it's

9340
05:44:01,431 --> 05:44:02,650
tied to public safety.

9341
05:44:02,650 --> 05:44:03,166
So it's beyond just being

9342
05:44:03,166 --> 05:44:03,767
a minimum housing issue.

9343
05:44:03,767 --> 05:44:05,301
We're now talking about,

9344
05:44:05,301 --> 05:44:07,701
um, breaking and entering.

9345
05:44:08,404 --> 05:44:08,905
We're talking about, um, drug

9346
05:44:08,905 --> 05:44:10,340
issues, just just

9347
05:44:10,340 --> 05:44:11,700
criminal activity.

9348
05:44:11,700 --> 05:44:12,808
Um, that unfortunately, is

9349
05:44:12,808 --> 05:44:15,208
continuing to perpetuate the

9350
05:44:16,379 --> 05:44:17,113
blight in the community.

9351
05:44:17,113 --> 05:44:17,714
Um, one of the other things is

9352
05:44:17,714 --> 05:44:21,117
we had a lot of activity around

9353
05:44:21,117 --> 05:44:21,718
Club Way.

9354
05:44:21,718 --> 05:44:22,185
Um, a lot of those cases

9355
05:44:22,185 --> 05:44:23,860
have now been closed out.

9356
05:44:23,860 --> 05:44:25,521
Um, the three major cases that

9357
05:44:25,521 --> 05:44:26,456
are outstanding with that are

9358
05:44:26,456 --> 05:44:29,590
the units in which required

9359
05:44:29,590 --> 05:44:29,926
some additional, um, activity

9360
05:44:29,926 --> 05:44:32,829
in terms of bracing those

9361
05:44:32,829 --> 05:44:33,530
particular properties.

9362
05:44:33,530 --> 05:44:35,365
And they're currently going

9363
05:44:35,365 --> 05:44:36,132
through construction, um, to be

9364
05:44:36,132 --> 05:44:39,132
able to repair those particular

9365
05:44:39,135 --> 05:44:42,639
units so we can get people back

9366
05:44:42,639 --> 05:44:43,673
in them.

9367
05:44:43,673 --> 05:44:44,173
Um, so one of the other

9368
05:44:44,173 --> 05:44:47,173
components for our plan of

9369
05:44:48,178 --> 05:44:50,578
action was proactive and

9370
05:44:51,114 --> 05:44:51,848
consistent enforcement.

9371
05:44:51,848 --> 05:44:53,383
Um, and so with that came the

9372
05:44:53,383 --> 05:44:56,983
need to evaluate all of our

9373
05:44:57,653 --> 05:44:59,389
code related ordinances.

9374
05:44:59,389 --> 05:44:59,823
So we looked at minimum housing.

9375
05:44:59,823 --> 05:45:00,790
We looked at

9376
05:45:00,790 --> 05:45:01,491
nonresidential structures.

9377
05:45:01,491 --> 05:45:02,558
We looked at, um, everything

9378
05:45:02,558 --> 05:45:05,558
across the board to determine

9379
05:45:05,928 --> 05:45:06,629
where we could gain time.

9380
05:45:06,629 --> 05:45:07,631
Um, and so that has now been

9381
05:45:07,631 --> 05:45:09,966
completed, and we are planning

9382
05:45:09,966 --> 05:45:12,935
to come back to you all in

9383
05:45:12,935 --> 05:45:14,935
SEPTEMBER proposing adoption

9384
05:45:16,173 --> 05:45:16,907
for that.

9385
05:45:16,907 --> 05:45:17,474
Um, so I want to talk through

9386
05:45:17,474 --> 05:45:18,207
some of those, um, components

9387
05:45:18,207 --> 05:45:20,207
related to that

9388
05:45:21,210 --> 05:45:21,944
particular, um, initiative.

9389
05:45:21,944 --> 05:45:24,280
And so overall, this these are

9390
05:45:24,280 --> 05:45:25,140
really going to highlight the

9391
05:45:25,140 --> 05:45:27,984
major, um, things we evaluated

9392
05:45:27,984 --> 05:45:30,984
and what we're proposing to

9393
05:45:31,555 --> 05:45:32,422
change in front of you all.

9394
05:45:32,422 --> 05:45:33,289
You do have a notebook that

9395
05:45:33,289 --> 05:45:34,230
contains all of the proposed

9396
05:45:34,230 --> 05:45:36,827
changes, um, that you can can

9397
05:45:36,827 --> 05:45:38,795
review at your leisure, um, and

9398
05:45:38,795 --> 05:45:41,795
be able to provide any

9399
05:45:41,831 --> 05:45:42,565
feedback that you might have.

9400
05:45:42,565 --> 05:45:43,966
Like I said, with us proposing

9401
05:45:43,966 --> 05:45:46,966
adoption, um, at you all

9402
05:45:47,504 --> 05:45:49,305
SEPTEMBER meeting.

9403
05:45:49,305 --> 05:45:50,730
Um, so we did general cleanup.

9404
05:45:50,730 --> 05:45:50,907
We had to verify we were

9405
05:45:50,907 --> 05:45:53,907
in alignment with our North

9406
05:45:54,477 --> 05:45:55,178
Carolina General Statutes.

9407
05:45:55,178 --> 05:45:56,790
You'll see an update to the

9408
05:45:56,790 --> 05:45:58,479
structure for civil penalties

9409
05:46:00,317 --> 05:46:00,817
related to code enforcement

9410
05:46:00,817 --> 05:46:01,485
cases, updates to

9411
05:46:01,485 --> 05:46:02,186
some timelines.

9412
05:46:02,186 --> 05:46:03,920
In some places, we were able

9413
05:46:03,920 --> 05:46:04,621
to reduce the some timelines.

9414
05:46:04,621 --> 05:46:06,589
Some places we had to extend

9415
05:46:06,589 --> 05:46:09,920
the timeline just based on

9416
05:46:09,920 --> 05:46:09,725
statutory law.

9417
05:46:09,725 --> 05:46:10,260
Um, we are proposing an

9418
05:46:10,260 --> 05:46:11,428
implementation of a 48 hour

9419
05:46:11,428 --> 05:46:13,697
life safety repair policy, and

9420
05:46:13,697 --> 05:46:15,999
we evaluated the determination

9421
05:46:15,999 --> 05:46:18,999
of unfit for human habitation

9422
05:46:19,360 --> 05:46:21,905
and what that that would look

9423
05:46:21,905 --> 05:46:23,600
like moving forward.

9424
05:46:23,600 --> 05:46:23,540
And then last but not least,

9425
05:46:23,540 --> 05:46:24,908
the implementation

9426
05:46:24,908 --> 05:46:25,742
of a mold protocol.

9427
05:46:25,742 --> 05:46:27,430
And that would be specific

9428
05:46:27,430 --> 05:46:29,443
to an internal practice.

9429
05:46:31,147 --> 05:46:33,316
That's not something that would

9430
05:46:33,316 --> 05:46:34,918
be written out in the ordinance.

9431
05:46:34,918 --> 05:46:35,418
So that would be something

9432
05:46:35,418 --> 05:46:36,190
staff would would

9433
05:46:36,190 --> 05:46:38,190
be implementing.

9434
05:46:38,154 --> 05:46:38,921
Um, like I said, just based off

9435
05:46:38,921 --> 05:46:39,556
an internal standard

9436
05:46:39,556 --> 05:46:41,458
operating procedure.

9437
05:46:41,458 --> 05:46:42,459
Um, these are all the, the

9438
05:46:42,459 --> 05:46:43,493
codes and the sections

9439
05:46:43,493 --> 05:46:44,126
that we evaluated.

9440
05:46:44,126 --> 05:46:45,661
And like I said, in their

9441
05:46:45,661 --> 05:46:48,610
totality, anything related to

9442
05:46:48,731 --> 05:46:49,599
code enforcement issues.

9443
05:46:49,599 --> 05:46:50,233
Um, and so first component,

9444
05:46:50,233 --> 05:46:53,700
when we looked at the alignment

9445
05:46:53,700 --> 05:46:55,872
with the North Carolina General

9446
05:46:55,872 --> 05:46:58,272
Statutes, first and foremost,

9447
05:46:59,420 --> 05:46:59,676
chronic violators.

9448
05:46:59,676 --> 05:47:00,242
So what chronic violators

9449
05:47:00,242 --> 05:47:00,877
provides for is that if we're

9450
05:47:00,877 --> 05:47:02,346
giving notice to the same

9451
05:47:02,346 --> 05:47:03,113
property owner, same property,

9452
05:47:03,113 --> 05:47:06,160
at least three times within the

9453
05:47:06,160 --> 05:47:07,160
same 12 month period, we can

9454
05:47:07,160 --> 05:47:09,160
designate that individual

9455
05:47:10,190 --> 05:47:12,756
or that property owner as a

9456
05:47:12,756 --> 05:47:13,923
chronic violator.

9457
05:47:13,923 --> 05:47:14,691
We're moving forward.

9458
05:47:14,691 --> 05:47:15,224
We're only required to

9459
05:47:15,224 --> 05:47:15,992
give notice, and then we're

9460
05:47:15,992 --> 05:47:17,360
permitted to abate the property

9461
05:47:17,360 --> 05:47:18,261
and bring it into compliance.

9462
05:47:18,261 --> 05:47:20,430
Um, previously it was written

9463
05:47:20,430 --> 05:47:21,664
out that we had to actually

9464
05:47:21,664 --> 05:47:24,467
abate the the nuisance that was

9465
05:47:24,467 --> 05:47:25,635
identified at least three times

9466
05:47:25,635 --> 05:47:28,350
within a 12 month period

9467
05:47:28,671 --> 05:47:31,674
prior to us deeming somebody a

9468
05:47:31,674 --> 05:47:32,275
chronic violator.

9469
05:47:32,275 --> 05:47:32,842
So this is a this was an

9470
05:47:32,842 --> 05:47:36,442
opportunity for us to, to gain

9471
05:47:36,613 --> 05:47:37,800
some time in terms of how we

9472
05:47:37,800 --> 05:47:38,181
implement that

9473
05:47:38,181 --> 05:47:40,830
particular process.

9474
05:47:40,830 --> 05:47:41,151
Um, I did.

9475
05:47:41,151 --> 05:47:41,985
Everyone's.

9476
05:47:41,985 --> 05:47:42,518
On the same page.

9477
05:47:42,518 --> 05:47:42,952
Can you define and

9478
05:47:42,952 --> 05:47:43,753
describe what that is?

9479
05:47:43,753 --> 05:47:45,855
Yes. And so typically when

9480
05:47:45,855 --> 05:47:47,390
we're talking about a chronic

9481
05:47:47,390 --> 05:47:48,992
violator, we are dealing

9482
05:47:48,992 --> 05:47:49,726
with public nuisances only.

9483
05:47:49,726 --> 05:47:51,894
So not tied to minimum housing

9484
05:47:51,894 --> 05:47:52,528
is simply public nuisances.

9485
05:47:52,528 --> 05:47:54,898
So issues with tall grass

9486
05:47:54,898 --> 05:47:58,301
weeds, issues with um trash and

9487
05:47:58,301 --> 05:48:01,237
debris or issues with junked

9488
05:48:01,237 --> 05:48:01,904
abandoned nuisance cars

9489
05:48:01,904 --> 05:48:04,904
typically are the types of

9490
05:48:04,974 --> 05:48:07,974
public nuisances, um, that that

9491
05:48:08,378 --> 05:48:09,112
we're dealing with.

9492
05:48:09,112 --> 05:48:09,646
And so if we're talking about

9493
05:48:09,646 --> 05:48:10,380
actually moving forward with

9494
05:48:10,380 --> 05:48:11,580
abatement, it might mean we go

9495
05:48:11,580 --> 05:48:12,182
out and we cut the grass, um,

9496
05:48:12,182 --> 05:48:14,582
to bring the property

9497
05:48:14,751 --> 05:48:15,619
back into compliance.

9498
05:48:15,619 --> 05:48:16,919
We might go out and clean up

9499
05:48:16,919 --> 05:48:19,322
the trash and debris that's

9500
05:48:19,322 --> 05:48:20,900
scattered, um, over property.

9501
05:48:20,900 --> 05:48:21,391
And so that's what we mean when

9502
05:48:21,391 --> 05:48:22,580
we're talking about abatement

9503
05:48:22,580 --> 05:48:24,580
under the chronic

9504
05:48:24,600 --> 05:48:25,662
violators rules.

9505
05:48:25,662 --> 05:48:26,629
Um, the next one on the list

9506
05:48:26,629 --> 05:48:29,629
is dealing with the vacate

9507
05:48:30,967 --> 05:48:31,668
enclosed dwellings.

9508
05:48:31,668 --> 05:48:32,201
I mentioned at the beginning

9509
05:48:32,201 --> 05:48:32,836
there were some unfortunate

9510
05:48:32,836 --> 05:48:34,604
instances where we had to

9511
05:48:34,604 --> 05:48:35,338
increase our timelines.

9512
05:48:35,338 --> 05:48:37,140
Even though we were trying to

9513
05:48:37,140 --> 05:48:38,740
gain efficiencies, but we had

9514
05:48:38,740 --> 05:48:39,543
to be in compliance

9515
05:48:39,543 --> 05:48:40,277
with the state law.

9516
05:48:40,277 --> 05:48:41,277
The ordinance historically was

9517
05:48:41,277 --> 05:48:44,180
written out that we could move

9518
05:48:44,180 --> 05:48:46,580
forward with the process

9519
05:48:47,216 --> 05:48:50,153
after six months of a property

9520
05:48:50,153 --> 05:48:50,886
sitting vacant and abandoned.

9521
05:48:50,886 --> 05:48:51,954
Statutorily, you've

9522
05:48:51,954 --> 05:48:53,220
got to sit for a year.

9523
05:48:53,220 --> 05:48:54,590
So that is one of the places,

9524
05:48:54,590 --> 05:48:58,728
like I said, where we had to

9525
05:48:58,728 --> 05:48:59,428
increase the timeline

9526
05:48:59,428 --> 05:48:59,862
everywhere else we

9527
05:48:59,862 --> 05:49:00,563
were able to decrease.

9528
05:49:00,563 --> 05:49:02,310
Previously it said, um, not

9529
05:49:02,310 --> 05:49:03,165
less than 30 days and not more

9530
05:49:03,165 --> 05:49:05,165
than 90 for everywhere

9531
05:49:06,690 --> 05:49:06,837
that was written out.

9532
05:49:06,837 --> 05:49:08,171
We have now decreased the 90 to

9533
05:49:08,171 --> 05:49:09,239
60 days, and there still might

9534
05:49:09,239 --> 05:49:12,239
be some flexibility just based

9535
05:49:12,275 --> 05:49:16,446
on what the, um, on a case by

9536
05:49:16,446 --> 05:49:17,213
case basis.

9537
05:49:17,213 --> 05:49:18,214
But the rule, like I said, will

9538
05:49:18,214 --> 05:49:19,820
be written out not less than 30.

9539
05:49:19,820 --> 05:49:19,916
Um, and no more than 60 days

9540
05:49:19,916 --> 05:49:23,853
before we would be able to move

9541
05:49:23,853 --> 05:49:24,520
forward with, with our process.

9542
05:49:24,520 --> 05:49:25,621
Um, methods of service was

9543
05:49:25,621 --> 05:49:28,658
another place in which we came

9544
05:49:28,658 --> 05:49:29,392
into alignment.

9545
05:49:29,392 --> 05:49:29,993
A lot of places we were doing

9546
05:49:29,993 --> 05:49:30,627
more than what we needed to do.

9547
05:49:30,627 --> 05:49:32,462
Meaning we were requiring

9548
05:49:32,462 --> 05:49:33,896
certified or registered mail

9549
05:49:33,896 --> 05:49:36,896
where the statute only required

9550
05:49:36,899 --> 05:49:39,299
personal delivery, first class

9551
05:49:40,670 --> 05:49:41,204
mail, or posting before we

9552
05:49:41,204 --> 05:49:42,272
could move forward

9553
05:49:42,272 --> 05:49:42,905
with any activity.

9554
05:49:42,905 --> 05:49:43,740
So anywhere where we were

9555
05:49:43,740 --> 05:49:46,740
able to remove certified or

9556
05:49:47,443 --> 05:49:48,511
registered mail.

9557
05:49:48,511 --> 05:49:49,746
Um, we have done that.

9558
05:49:49,746 --> 05:49:50,980
Um, and so the two I've

9559
05:49:50,980 --> 05:49:51,881
identified here are dealing

9560
05:49:51,881 --> 05:49:54,316
with the weeds and vegetation

9561
05:49:54,316 --> 05:49:55,500
and then abandoned junk

9562
05:49:55,500 --> 05:49:56,585
nuisance vehicles is where we

9563
05:49:56,585 --> 05:49:59,389
were able to dial that back.

9564
05:49:59,389 --> 05:50:00,890
Um, and last but not least, in

9565
05:50:00,890 --> 05:50:02,125
terms of the appeals

9566
05:50:02,125 --> 05:50:02,692
method and periods.

9567
05:50:02,692 --> 05:50:04,694
Um, so we evaluated

9568
05:50:04,694 --> 05:50:05,595
that in its entirety.

9569
05:50:05,595 --> 05:50:07,396
And in a lot of places, we had

9570
05:50:07,396 --> 05:50:08,497
a lot of layers and levels to

9571
05:50:08,497 --> 05:50:11,497
the appeals process, um, that

9572
05:50:11,567 --> 05:50:12,735
weren't necessarily reasonable.

9573
05:50:12,735 --> 05:50:15,471
Um, and so we have dialed

9574
05:50:15,471 --> 05:50:19,671
those back to where, um, it's a

9575
05:50:21,770 --> 05:50:21,811
shorter period of time.

9576
05:50:21,811 --> 05:50:22,411
I mean, because some stuff is,

9577
05:50:22,411 --> 05:50:23,112
is is it's very clear if you've

9578
05:50:23,112 --> 05:50:25,810
got grass that's ten inches

9579
05:50:25,810 --> 05:50:25,781
or higher, that's very clear.

9580
05:50:25,781 --> 05:50:27,784
There's not really room for

9581
05:50:27,784 --> 05:50:28,551
negotiation necessarily.

9582
05:50:28,551 --> 05:50:31,420
And so now we've got it set to

9583
05:50:31,420 --> 05:50:35,200
where you might have 15 days to

9584
05:50:35,658 --> 05:50:36,459
file a written appeal.

9585
05:50:36,459 --> 05:50:36,893
And that appeal goes to

9586
05:50:36,893 --> 05:50:37,627
the Board of Adjustment.

9587
05:50:37,627 --> 05:50:38,561
Previously it went through the

9588
05:50:38,561 --> 05:50:39,629
the assistant director, the

9589
05:50:39,629 --> 05:50:42,629
director to the assistant city

9590
05:50:42,665 --> 05:50:43,967
manager to the city manager to

9591
05:50:43,967 --> 05:50:46,367
everybody had to had

9592
05:50:46,436 --> 05:50:47,470
to check the box.

9593
05:50:47,470 --> 05:50:49,372
And so we have removed that

9594
05:50:49,372 --> 05:50:50,306
that drawn out process to, to

9595
05:50:50,306 --> 05:50:53,209
make it easier, I think

9596
05:50:53,209 --> 05:50:55,209
for everybody involved.

9597
05:50:55,311 --> 05:50:55,845
Um, so I mentioned the

9598
05:50:55,845 --> 05:50:58,245
determination of being unfit

9599
05:51:01,183 --> 05:51:01,885
for human habitation.

9600
05:51:01,885 --> 05:51:02,451
Historically, we have relied

9601
05:51:02,451 --> 05:51:03,452
on property value and cost of

9602
05:51:03,452 --> 05:51:05,852
repairs to make this

9603
05:51:06,389 --> 05:51:07,900
particular determination.

9604
05:51:07,900 --> 05:51:08,625
And so what we are proposing

9605
05:51:08,625 --> 05:51:11,625
is a tiered, um, methodology

9606
05:51:11,727 --> 05:51:13,529
wherein if you're meeting

9607
05:51:13,529 --> 05:51:15,231
these, these certain

9608
05:51:15,231 --> 05:51:17,631
thresholds, and the first

9609
05:51:17,800 --> 05:51:18,501
one up there in terms of a

9610
05:51:18,501 --> 05:51:20,501
dilapidated structure would

9611
05:51:20,736 --> 05:51:22,305
require, um, you to meet at

9612
05:51:22,305 --> 05:51:24,705
least one of the

9613
05:51:25,174 --> 05:51:26,109
enumerated conditions.

9614
05:51:26,109 --> 05:51:27,443
And those conditions listed are

9615
05:51:27,443 --> 05:51:29,913
those that are really dealing

9616
05:51:29,913 --> 05:51:30,479
with life safety issues.

9617
05:51:30,479 --> 05:51:31,381
Um, so anything like

9618
05:51:31,381 --> 05:51:32,482
threatening life safety, you

9619
05:51:32,482 --> 05:51:34,584
only have to have one of those

9620
05:51:34,584 --> 05:51:35,151
identified for your property to

9621
05:51:35,151 --> 05:51:37,186
be deemed unfit for

9622
05:51:37,186 --> 05:51:37,853
human habitation.

9623
05:51:37,853 --> 05:51:39,122
The next layer is would be

9624
05:51:39,122 --> 05:51:40,690
classified as a deteriorated

9625
05:51:40,690 --> 05:51:43,900
property, wherein you would

9626
05:51:43,493 --> 05:51:44,894
have to have seven or more of

9627
05:51:44,894 --> 05:51:47,294
the conditions that are

9628
05:51:47,896 --> 05:51:48,531
identified before you could

9629
05:51:48,531 --> 05:51:50,666
designate a dwelling as

9630
05:51:50,666 --> 05:51:51,767
being unfit for habitation.

9631
05:51:51,767 --> 05:51:54,303
And then the last tier

9632
05:51:54,303 --> 05:51:55,804
is, um, less than seven.

9633
05:51:55,804 --> 05:51:58,841
So a very low, low level, um,

9634
05:51:58,841 --> 05:52:03,410
all you've got to have is, is

9635
05:52:03,646 --> 05:52:04,247
violations identified.

9636
05:52:04,247 --> 05:52:04,814
And so it's not going to

9637
05:52:04,814 --> 05:52:05,548
result in it being unfit for

9638
05:52:05,548 --> 05:52:06,849
habitation, but it would be a

9639
05:52:06,849 --> 05:52:07,450
violation in which you would be

9640
05:52:07,450 --> 05:52:09,285
required to repair or be

9641
05:52:09,285 --> 05:52:11,820
subject to civil penalties in

9642
05:52:11,820 --> 05:52:13,957
the event you did not.

9643
05:52:13,957 --> 05:52:17,270
Um, one of the other components

9644
05:52:17,270 --> 05:52:19,963
is looking at our structure for

9645
05:52:19,963 --> 05:52:21,640
civil penalties.

9646
05:52:21,640 --> 05:52:24,233
Um, to really be able to, um,

9647
05:52:24,233 --> 05:52:25,101
ease the implementation of this.

9648
05:52:25,101 --> 05:52:26,302
We are proposing to go from

9649
05:52:26,302 --> 05:52:28,702
what's currently a tiered

9650
05:52:30,172 --> 05:52:30,807
process to a flat fee.

9651
05:52:30,807 --> 05:52:32,342
Um, and but every day's

9652
05:52:32,342 --> 05:52:33,142
violation would still be a

9653
05:52:33,142 --> 05:52:35,142
separate and

9654
05:52:35,478 --> 05:52:36,120
continuing violation.

9655
05:52:36,120 --> 05:52:36,979
So civil penalties

9656
05:52:36,979 --> 05:52:37,713
would still accrue.

9657
05:52:37,713 --> 05:52:39,215
They would just be accruing at

9658
05:52:39,215 --> 05:52:42,918
a flat fee versus you having to

9659
05:52:42,918 --> 05:52:43,520
deal with with tiers.

9660
05:52:43,520 --> 05:52:44,120
So better for accounting

9661
05:52:44,120 --> 05:52:44,753
purposes, better for city staff

9662
05:52:44,753 --> 05:52:47,590
to be able to, to keep up

9663
05:52:47,590 --> 05:52:48,291
and be able to implement.

9664
05:52:48,291 --> 05:52:50,960
Um, and so you see the, the

9665
05:52:50,960 --> 05:52:51,861
tiers where we currently are.

9666
05:52:51,861 --> 05:52:54,130
And we would go to $100

9667
05:52:54,130 --> 05:52:56,130
per each violation.

9668
05:52:56,866 --> 05:52:57,399
Um, and one note I will

9669
05:52:57,399 --> 05:53:00,999
make here is this is solely

9670
05:53:02,572 --> 05:53:03,272
applicable to code enforcement.

9671
05:53:03,272 --> 05:53:04,173
So there will be some other

9672
05:53:04,173 --> 05:53:06,842
places still in the code where

9673
05:53:06,842 --> 05:53:07,477
it'll be the tiered process.

9674
05:53:07,477 --> 05:53:08,277
Not to say we might not

9675
05:53:08,277 --> 05:53:08,878
evaluate that in the future to

9676
05:53:08,878 --> 05:53:11,313
to level set and make

9677
05:53:11,313 --> 05:53:12,248
everything consistent.

9678
05:53:12,248 --> 05:53:13,482
Um, but right now it'll just be

9679
05:53:13,482 --> 05:53:16,585
focused on the code, um, code

9680
05:53:16,585 --> 05:53:18,540
enforcement sections.

9681
05:53:18,540 --> 05:53:18,621
Um, one other component we

9682
05:53:18,621 --> 05:53:22,191
are proposing is that we would

9683
05:53:22,191 --> 05:53:25,161
implement a 48 hour life safety

9684
05:53:25,161 --> 05:53:28,161
repair um ordinance and it

9685
05:53:28,430 --> 05:53:30,430
would require landlords,

9686
05:53:31,433 --> 05:53:33,833
property managers, what have

9687
05:53:34,470 --> 05:53:35,710
you to fix any of the

9688
05:53:35,710 --> 05:53:37,390
identified violations

9689
05:53:37,390 --> 05:53:37,773
within 48 hours?

9690
05:53:37,773 --> 05:53:39,943
Um, in the event they were not

9691
05:53:39,943 --> 05:53:42,943
resolved, they would be subject

9692
05:53:43,179 --> 05:53:43,812
to civil penalties.

9693
05:53:43,812 --> 05:53:44,846
Um, we have evaluated the

9694
05:53:44,846 --> 05:53:47,846
opportunity of what it would

9695
05:53:48,484 --> 05:53:49,840
look like for staff to abate.

9696
05:53:49,840 --> 05:53:50,920
Um, and we are trying

9697
05:53:50,920 --> 05:53:51,888
to stay away from that.

9698
05:53:51,888 --> 05:53:54,323
We don't want to be in the

9699
05:53:54,323 --> 05:53:56,692
business of being an hvac

9700
05:53:56,692 --> 05:53:57,293
contractor or trying to to, um,

9701
05:53:57,293 --> 05:53:59,293
be an electrician

9702
05:54:00,290 --> 05:54:00,929
or what have you.

9703
05:54:00,929 --> 05:54:01,797
And so the the route to go at

9704
05:54:01,797 --> 05:54:03,399
this point in time would be us

9705
05:54:03,399 --> 05:54:06,399
applying, like I said, civil

9706
05:54:06,436 --> 05:54:08,836
penalties and then evaluating

9707
05:54:09,571 --> 05:54:10,720
on a a a case by case basis.

9708
05:54:10,720 --> 05:54:10,573
If we had to take

9709
05:54:10,573 --> 05:54:12,641
it, take it further.

9710
05:54:12,641 --> 05:54:13,409
Um, up to and including

9711
05:54:13,409 --> 05:54:14,443
requiring the dwelling

9712
05:54:14,443 --> 05:54:16,443
to be vacated.

9713
05:54:18,480 --> 05:54:21,451
Um, so I mentioned the mold

9714
05:54:21,451 --> 05:54:22,118
protocol at the beginning.

9715
05:54:22,118 --> 05:54:23,619
Like I said, this will not

9716
05:54:23,619 --> 05:54:24,353
be based in the ordnance.

9717
05:54:24,353 --> 05:54:25,888
This will solely be something

9718
05:54:25,888 --> 05:54:27,890
tied to standard operating

9719
05:54:27,890 --> 05:54:29,489
procedures that our staff

9720
05:54:30,159 --> 05:54:32,761
would implement within our code

9721
05:54:32,761 --> 05:54:33,396
Enforcement division.

9722
05:54:33,396 --> 05:54:33,996
We've seen an increase in

9723
05:54:33,996 --> 05:54:34,697
complaints tied specifically to

9724
05:54:34,697 --> 05:54:37,500
mold, and we did evaluate a

9725
05:54:37,500 --> 05:54:38,400
lot of options in terms of what

9726
05:54:38,400 --> 05:54:40,136
this could look like for city

9727
05:54:40,136 --> 05:54:41,670
staff to be able to to run the

9728
05:54:41,670 --> 05:54:44,707
ball on this, but it's it's

9729
05:54:44,707 --> 05:54:46,308
extremely cost prohibitive for

9730
05:54:46,308 --> 05:54:49,345
us to be able to consistently

9731
05:54:49,345 --> 05:54:52,345
implement any type of testing

9732
05:54:53,150 --> 05:54:53,749
and or remediation.

9733
05:54:53,749 --> 05:54:54,416
And so what we have decided to

9734
05:54:54,416 --> 05:54:55,384
do, or we're proposing to do,

9735
05:54:55,384 --> 05:54:58,421
is be able to document the mold

9736
05:54:58,421 --> 05:54:59,254
like substances that that has

9737
05:54:59,254 --> 05:55:01,000
been identified, taking the