[0:01] Hey, Greenville, welcome to
[0:02] another episode of
[0:02] Greenville Eats.
[0:04] My name is Ashley.
[0:05] I'm your host, and we are here
[0:05] with Jonathan Bryant from the
[0:08] Community Engagement Division.
[0:10] How are you, Jonathan?
[0:10] I'm doing great.
[0:11] Yay! I'm so excited
[0:11] to have you here.
[0:13] So welcome to the show.
[0:14] Tell us first and foremost a
[0:15] little bit about what you do
[0:17] for the city of Greenville.
[0:17] Okay. So for the city of
[0:18] Greenville, I'm the community
[0:21] engagement specialist.
[0:21] And I go out in the community
[0:22] and engage with citizens,
[0:23] business owners and community
[0:24] leaders to help figure out
[0:25] their point of view and to see
[0:28] different ways that those can
[0:31] be implemented within the city.
[0:32] Yes, you're out and
[0:33] about all the time.
[0:35] All the time.
[0:36] That's like matches your
[0:36] personality like perfectly.
[0:37] Because you I just never
[0:39] see you without a smile.
[0:40] And you never you don't
[0:41] ever ignore people.
[0:43] Like, if you see somebody,
[0:43] you're gonna stop
[0:44] and talk to them.
[0:45] You have to speak.
[0:46] No, I don't have to.
[0:47] No.
[0:48] That's true, that's true.
[0:49] No. But that's just so
[0:49] great for your personality.
[0:51] I love it so much.
[0:52] So, um, and how long
[0:52] have you been doing that?
[0:54] For now.
[0:55] So I've been doing
[0:55] that since JANUARY.
[0:57] Okay. Yep.
[0:57] And and I really love it.
[0:58] Yeah. That's so cool.
[0:59] So let's get into this
[1:00] because it smells amazing.
[1:00] So what have you
[1:02] made for us today.
[1:04] So this is a Korean beef bowl.
[1:05] Uh, it's made with ground beef
[1:06] and rice, spring onions and a
[1:11] couple spices.
[1:12] Okay, nice.
[1:13] That's awesome.
[1:13] So before we dig into this,
[1:14] we're gonna go sit down and
[1:14] have a chat with J.B.,
[1:16] and we'll be right back.
[1:37] All right.
[1:38] Welcome back.
[1:39] So we are still here with jb.
[1:39] We are getting ready to dig
[1:40] into this delicious meal.
[1:43] Um, before we do that.
[1:44] No. Jb so let's talk a little
[1:44] bit about your personal life.
[1:45] So let people relate to
[1:48] you on a personal level.
[1:49] So you recently just brought
[1:50] a little bundle of joy?
[1:54] I did.
[1:55] I did a little
[1:55] baby, Jordan Grace.
[1:58] She's wonderful.
[1:59] Yep. Yep.
[2:00] She decided to come
[2:00] a little early.
[2:01] Uh, her her original birthday
[2:02] was going to be FEBRUARY 14th.
[2:05] Mhm. Uh, she came DECEMBER 21st.
[2:07] What girl come down?
[2:08] Right.
[2:09] What are you doing?
[2:10] She traded one
[2:10] holiday for another.
[2:11] Um, yeah.
[2:14] She was.
[2:15] She was excited about Santa.
[2:16] She was.
[2:16] She was.
[2:17] And she was here.
[2:18] Um, it's been a great
[2:18] time, a great journey.
[2:19] Yeah. Uh, the first, you know,
[2:21] real challenge was like, you
[2:24] know, having her go to daycare
[2:25] and be away from
[2:26] us initially, so.
[2:28] Yeah. Um, but it's been great.
[2:30] She's been loving it.
[2:30] Yeah. They sent her pictures
[2:31] of us, her smiling and all
[2:33] different types of stuff.
[2:34] So.
[2:35] She's so cute.
[2:35] Yeah. She's having
[2:36] a great time, so.
[2:37] That's so awesome.
[2:38] Well, congratulations.
[2:39] Thank you.
[2:40] Um, and just to, you know,
[2:41] I know this is a, you know,
[2:43] that's a great part of it, but
[2:44] I know you like
[2:44] this part to golf.
[2:46] Oh, golf.
[2:47] Yes.
[2:48] Brian always makes fun of me
[2:48] because sports go
[2:49] sports, and so.
[2:49] Okay. So tell us about
[2:50] your love of golf.
[2:54] Okay.
[2:55] Um, I got into golf for my dad.
[2:55] Uh, so there's a
[2:57] huge size difference.
[2:59] So he was like basketball.
[3:00] Football? None of that.
[3:02] So, uh, he decided on golf.
[3:03] Okay. You know, it takes a lot
[3:05] of technique, a lot of skill.
[3:06] And he figured because I was
[3:07] big and strong on that, I
[3:07] wouldn't be willing
[3:10] to put in the time.
[3:10] But Covid happened, and I had
[3:11] nothing but time all the time.
[3:15] So I practiced all the time.
[3:15] And now I'm a
[3:16] seven handicap, so.
[3:19] I know what that means.
[3:20] Yeah. So so it's just in
[3:20] relationship to, uh, par, which
[3:25] is 72.
[3:26] So on average, the lowest score
[3:26] I've ever shot is a 78 or 79.
[3:28] And so it's seven seven
[3:31] numbers between 72 and 79.
[3:33] And so that's how you your
[3:36] handicap over 20 rounds.
[3:36] Is that is that the
[3:38] same in putt putt.
[3:40] We can add putt putt.
[3:42] Uh, we can make a whole new
[3:43] handicap system for putt putt.
[3:43] And you should
[3:45] put that together.
[3:46] And then also we can do that.
[3:47] I mean, I think you'll see
[3:48] that, but um, but also putt
[3:48] putt and mini golf
[3:51] are typically dance.
[3:53] Really?
[3:54] Oh, okay.
[3:54] I know more.
[3:55] Oh, definitely.
[3:56] Um, okay.
[3:59] Well, I was going to ask you if
[4:00] you knew anything about that,
[4:01] but I had always heard that,
[4:01] like, putt putt mini golf were
[4:02] started separately and
[4:04] or slightly different.
[4:05] But obviously that is
[4:07] not real golf at all.
[4:10] So.
[4:11] Well, you know, the interesting
[4:11] part is, you know, they both,
[4:12] you know, if they are both
[4:13] different, they both share a
[4:14] common thing in putting.
[4:15] Yeah. So uh, that in itself
[4:16] is a really big skill in golf
[4:17] because that's where a lot
[4:19] of your score comes from.
[4:20] Yeah. So they say if you can
[4:21] get really good at putting,
[4:24] you'll be really good.
[4:24] You'll be at least
[4:25] decent at golf.
[4:27] Oh, okay.
[4:27] I don't know how true
[4:28] that's actually true.
[4:28] Me. Well, how good
[4:30] are you at one?
[4:30] But, I mean, I like to
[4:31] think I'm good, but.
[4:31] Well, I mean, if
[4:33] that's the case, then.
[4:36] But it's also like, you know,
[4:37] beach town putt putt places, so.
[4:38] Well, I mean, that's also the
[4:39] best place to play golf goes to
[4:41] the beach.
[4:42] Best weathered
[4:42] sailor's new hobby.
[4:45] Activated that part.
[4:46] You can do both.
[4:47] All right, let's jump into this
[4:48] because I'm excited to give
[4:50] this a try.
[4:51] All right, let's see.
[4:52] And I haven't even had
[4:52] lunch as I'm so excited.
[4:55] Okay.
[4:57] Mhm. Mhm.
[4:59] Mhm.
[5:03] Yep.
[5:03] I'd love to see you soon.
[5:05] And this is good.
[5:06] You can mix it with uh
[5:06] different vegetables.
[5:07] Or even if you want to use
[5:08] different ground meats you
[5:10] could as well.
[5:11] Oh okay.
[5:12] Yeah. Could you use ground beef.
[5:13] Right. Mhm.
[5:14] But you can use ground
[5:14] turkey or ground chicken.
[5:16] I like that.
[5:16] This is delicious.
[5:18] And luckily there's enough
[5:19] leftover for me to
[5:19] take back to them.
[5:21] Okay. Okay.
[5:23] Well thank you so much.
[5:24] I love having you on.
[5:26] This has been great.
[5:27] It's been great.
[5:27] Sorry. You can take a breath.
[5:28] You can.
[5:32] But. Yes.
[5:33] Thank you so much
[5:33] for joining us.
[5:34] So I'm very happy to have you.
[5:35] So thank you all for watching
[5:36] and we will see you on the next
[5:40] episode of everybody.
[15:02] Hey what's up Greenville?
[15:03] Welcome to another episode
[15:03] of Greenville Eats.
[15:04] My name is Ashley and today we
[15:05] have Dominique from our human
[15:09] resources department.
[15:10] Idomeneo. How are you doing?
[15:11] Good. How are you?
[15:12] I'm excited to have you on
[15:13] because you are one of my top
[15:13] three human resources people
[15:15] that I'm just obsessed with.
[15:18] Don't tell anybody.
[15:20] Well, yeah, well, I said top
[15:20] three for a reason, but I
[15:23] didn't want to like anyway, so.
[15:23] Okay, so first and foremost,
[15:25] welcome to the show.
[15:26] I'm so, so excited to have
[15:28] you before we jump into this,
[15:29] because I'm super excited about
[15:32] this, let's talk real quick
[15:32] about what you do in hr
[15:34] for the city of Greenville.
[15:37] Yeah.
[15:38] So I'm an hr specialist three
[15:39] I've been with the city for
[15:39] seven years now, which
[15:41] doesn't feel like it at all.
[15:41] Um, I do a lot of recruitment,
[15:44] especially supporting
[15:45] recreation and parks with
[15:47] their part time staff.
[15:47] I do a lot of employee
[15:49] programs, such as computer
[15:50] purchase, tuition assistance,
[15:51] as well as like gift cards and
[15:55] wellness incentives.
[15:56] Shout out!
[15:56] Use all of those.
[15:58] Yes, and.
[15:59] Now they do help employees
[15:59] with their fmla as well.
[16:00] So I kind of have a
[16:02] mix of everything.
[16:04] Okay. All right.
[16:04] Cool okay.
[16:05] So that's awesome.
[16:06] And when do you when
[16:07] did you hit seven years.
[16:09] I will be seven years in AUGUST.
[16:10] Oh is it right around
[16:11] the corner there.
[16:12] Okay, cool I love that.
[16:13] Congrats. Um, so let's jump
[16:14] into this because
[16:16] I'm so excited.
[16:17] I love a good empanada.
[16:19] So tell us what you're making.
[16:20] Why did you decide
[16:21] on this recipe?
[16:22] And then, like, I guess
[16:24] about your ingredients.
[16:26] Because I eat so good.
[16:26] Well, my family is
[16:27] Puerto Rican, so.
[16:29] But I'm also, I joke and say I
[16:30] don't speak Spanish, so I'm a
[16:33] no sabo child, unfortunately.
[16:35] Well, it's the same.
[16:35] So my little Domingo
[16:36] every once in a while.
[16:38] Um, but this is one of the
[16:39] things that my mom used to
[16:40] make, and my dad used to make
[16:42] every single time when it was,
[16:44] like, a quick meal.
[16:45] Um, so empanadas was kind of
[16:46] dear to my heart
[16:47] because of that.
[16:47] Um, so I do a lot of people
[16:48] can do the dough from scratch.
[16:49] I like to do quick and
[16:52] easy, so this is better.
[16:54] But I have the dough.
[16:55] I do adobo sauce on and then I
[16:56] made my own sofrito, which is
[16:56] more like onions, peppers, a
[16:59] little bit of salsa flavoring
[17:03] and vinegar.
[17:04] And then I can do ground beef.
[17:05] I usually do ground turkey
[17:06] because my boyfriend likes
[17:08] turkey more than beef.
[17:10] Um, fry it in some oil.
[17:11] And then I made a mayo
[17:12] ketchup dipping sauce.
[17:14] Cool. Awesome.
[17:15] I'm so excited.
[17:16] This place is about
[17:16] to smell amazing.
[17:17] So. Okay, so let's we're gonna
[17:18] jump into cooking, and we'll be
[17:19] back in just a
[17:22] little bit with more.
[17:24] Perfect.
[17:59] Okay, so as I predicted,
[18:02] it smells amazing in here.
[18:03] Dominique has made us some beef
[18:05] empanadas, and we've got you.
[18:06] So this is ketchup and
[18:09] mayonnaise and adobo.
[18:12] Yeah.
[18:13] Mayo, ketchup.
[18:13] I love it.
[18:14] So we are gonna go sit down and
[18:16] have a chat and enjoy empanadas.
[18:19] I'm so excited.
[18:20] Me too.
[18:21] Let's go.
[18:21] Hey.
[18:22] All right.
[18:25] It's the moment of truth.
[18:26] Let's dig in to these empanadas.
[18:29] I'm so excited.
[18:30] You first.
[18:30] Wait. Which ones
[18:30] were this was I.
[18:32] Doesn't matter.
[18:33] I don't care.
[18:33] Yeah. Yeah.
[18:34] Okay. And then we
[18:34] have your sauce.
[18:36] We got to get a little sauce.
[18:37] And so while we are
[18:38] digging into this that I know
[18:39] is going to be amazing because
[18:42] it smells amazing.
[18:43] Let's talk a little
[18:43] bit about you.
[18:45] So like, tell me
[18:46] something about yourself.
[18:47] Like what do you like to
[18:47] do in your spare time?
[18:48] It's funny, I'm actually I'm a
[18:49] people person at work, but I'm
[18:50] really reserved at home, so I
[18:52] usually like to chill with a
[18:55] nice little book.
[18:55] I'm a nerd for Nintendo Switch.
[18:57] Disney Dreamlight is my game,
[18:58] my little cozy game
[18:59] or Animal Crossing?
[19:02] Oh my GOD, really?
[19:03] That's amazing.
[19:04] Um, and then I do
[19:04] like planting also.
[19:07] And other things too.
[19:09] Like like just plants, like in.
[19:11] Or do you like garden?
[19:12] Like fruits, veggies or not?
[19:14] That's really good.
[19:15] But I have a few plants.
[19:16] Like I have a monster plant
[19:16] that's surprisingly growing
[19:19] really good.
[19:19] Okay, but I kill everything
[19:20] else, so that's crazy.
[19:21] I just do succulents because
[19:24] it's really hard to kill them.
[19:27] I've killed succulents.
[19:28] I have to I'm not
[19:29] saying I haven't.
[19:32] But I have.
[19:33] But yeah, so surprisingly, my
[19:33] my share is still doing good.
[19:34] I've had her for five years,
[19:36] so she's really big, growing
[19:37] really well, and I'm
[19:39] about to propagate her.
[19:40] So that way I can
[19:41] make another plant.
[19:42] Oh my GOD, that's so exciting.
[19:44] So I'm excited for that.
[19:46] That's awesome I love that.
[19:46] Um, what kind of books
[19:47] do you like to read?
[19:50] We are in book club together.
[19:52] I do, yeah.
[19:53] So we have we've read a lot
[19:53] of like really random stuff in
[19:56] book club, but like, what's
[19:56] your go to outside of book club?
[19:57] Well, it's funny, I'm since I'm
[19:58] an avid reader, I don't have
[20:01] really a genre that I like.
[20:02] So what I do is you guys
[20:03] always make fun of me.
[20:03] If the title and the book cover
[20:05] gets me, I'll pick it up and
[20:09] read it.
[20:10] The cover opens me up to other
[20:10] things that I like to read.
[20:11] The cover is yeah,
[20:12] that's the thing.
[20:13] Now I'm a big like
[20:15] rom com girly,
[20:16] but you know, the
[20:17] cover does get me.
[20:19] If the cover is cute, I'm
[20:21] gonna I'm gonna pick it up.
[20:24] So I do love a good mystery.
[20:26] Oh, really?
[20:27] Yeah, I like history.
[20:28] I like the ones that when you
[20:28] read it till the end, you don't
[20:29] realize that the end is
[20:30] going to be that way.
[20:31] Yeah, like those
[20:32] type of mysteries.
[20:33] Like the one Frieda McFadden
[20:34] book we read in book club.
[20:37] That got me.
[20:38] That twist at the end.
[20:39] That got me.
[20:40] That was crazy.
[20:41] I feel like the book Silent
[20:41] Patient is also one of those
[20:45] books by her.
[20:45] Was it by Frida McFadden?
[20:46] I can't remember the author,
[20:47] but it was also another one
[20:47] that at the end you're
[20:48] like, what in the world?
[20:50] Never would have thought of it.
[20:51] Thrown for a loop.
[20:52] That's so crazy.
[20:54] I love that.
[20:54] That's exciting though.
[20:55] Let's let's dig in.
[20:57] Let's see.
[20:58] Let's see about this.
[20:59] I'm. I'm so pumped.
[20:59] i also haven't eaten
[21:01] lunch yet, so that helps.
[21:03] Me neither.
[21:03] Okay.
[21:06] Mm
[21:08] mm mm mm.
[21:10] Happy dance.
[21:12] Yeah.
[21:13] Mm.
[21:17] That's amazing.
[21:18] Thank you.
[21:19] Very quick.
[21:22] Easy to make.
[21:23] So just.
[21:24] I'm gonna just take
[21:24] this for, uh, leftovers.
[21:27] Thank you.
[21:28] You're more than
[21:28] welcome to take it.
[21:30] I can make plenty more at home.
[21:31] There's a lot of beef
[21:32] leftover, too, so I might just.
[21:34] You know, take some extra.
[21:35] Oh, my GOD, that's so good.
[21:36] Thank you.
[21:37] So thank you so much for
[21:38] coming on and chatting.
[21:40] Of course, telling us a little
[21:40] bit about your job,
[21:41] extracurriculars.
[21:42] Sorry, I'm trying to not be
[21:43] gross, but also, um, okay.
[21:48] So thank you.
[21:49] I appreciate you so much.
[21:49] Also, again, top
[21:50] three, top three hr.
[21:54] Humans I love you.
[21:55] Thank you for having me.
[21:56] Yes.
[21:57] Okay.
[21:57] Um, thank you guys so much for
[21:58] joining us for another episode
[21:59] of Greenville Eats, and we
[22:00] will be back soon to bring you
[22:04] something sweet.
[22:05] Bye bye.
[22:21] No bloopers.
[22:22] Okay.
[22:23] Whatever you need to do to.
[22:26] Cause, you know, I'm gonna be a
[22:27] little intense because I'm not
[22:29] used to it.
[22:29] You're good.
[22:30] You will.
[22:32] Be like, okay, now.
[22:34] Be like Dom.
[22:35] Come on, lighten
[22:35] up a little bit.
[22:37] We'll give you a bonus.
[22:38] I'll give you my
[22:38] biometric screen.
[22:41] I'll give you my gift card.
[22:47] There you go.
[22:48] Okay. I'm trying.
[22:49] What is she used to do
[22:49] with high school music?
[34:19] Okay, now I
[34:20] m going to call the
[34:21] meeting to order, and we
[34:21] re
[34:24] going to do roll call. Andrew
[34:26] Morehead. Present.
[34:29] David Dennard present. Matthew
[34:32] Cox, Wiley. Handcock. Susan
[34:36] Daughtry. Sir Sidney McLeod.
[34:40] Rebecca smith. Kamari. Carter.
[34:45] Green. We have quorum.
[34:47] All right, so as I looked at
[34:49] the agenda, do we have an
[34:53] approval? Are you ready?
[34:55] Approval.
[34:55] I
[34:56] ll move. Approval.
[34:56] I
[34:57] ll.
[35:00] Okay. Thank you. Um.
[35:01] We have to vote on that.
[35:04] Uh, so everybody agreed.
[35:08] I.
[35:15] Um, thanks for that. Um, Scott.
[35:16] See?
[35:16] No.
[35:16] He
[35:17] s not here.
[35:18] He sent us. I
[35:19] ll step in for
[35:20] him.
[35:22] Okay.
[35:22] You don
[35:23] t have anything for ex
[35:24] parte. So.
[35:25] Okay.
[35:25] You
[35:27] re on. Okay. Move forward.
[35:27] We don
[35:28] t have to close.
[35:30] Okay. So, is there anybody have
[35:32] time to look at the minutes?
[35:34] And do we have approval for the
[35:36] minutes for APRIL 28th?
[35:36] I
[35:37] ll vote approval. I
[35:38] ll
[35:39] second.
[35:42] Uh, is there anybody in
[35:44] accordance?
[35:48] I.
[35:49] Okay. So we
[35:50] re gonna have a
[35:53] public comment, period. Uh, the
[35:54] public comment period is a
[35:56] period reserved for comments by
[35:58] the public. Items that are
[35:59] subject of a public hearing
[36:01] this week shall not be
[36:03] discussed. A total of 30
[36:05] minutes is allocated for each
[36:07] individual being allowed no
[36:08] more than three minutes.
[36:10] Individuals who register to
[36:12] speak will speak in the order
[36:15] Register until the allotted 30
[36:17] minutes expires. If time
[36:19] remains after all, persons who
[36:20] registered have spoken,
[36:21] individuals who did not
[36:23] register will have an
[36:24] opportunity to speak into the
[36:30] allocated 30 minutes. Expires.
[36:33] We have.
[36:34] Rushing forward.
[36:45] So new business.
[36:48] Good afternoon. Commission. Um.
[36:51] Today I am going to talk to you
[36:53] about the rules of procedure.
[36:56] We, um. In APRIL, we had our
[36:57] first reading of the Rules of
[36:59] procedure. And, um, spoke about
[37:00] the revisions. I
[37:01] ll go over
[37:02] those again today. Um, but your
[37:04] rules of procedure for hpc set
[37:07] your agenda item order. They
[37:08] set how you conduct business
[37:10] and how you approve CEOs. Um,
[37:12] these were last revised in
[37:14] 2023. Um, so not too long ago,
[37:17] but we had a couple updates.
[37:18] Um, those updates, I know we
[37:19] went over them last time, but
[37:19] I
[37:21] ll just refresh your memory.
[37:24] Um, the Planning and
[37:25] Development Services department
[37:26] has now changed their name to
[37:28] the Community and Development
[37:29] Services Department. So that
[37:30] will be a change that will need
[37:33] to be made. Um, with the
[37:35] advancement of our public
[37:36] information office and the way
[37:37] that they are able to get
[37:39] information out to the public.
[37:42] Um, we are dissolving the
[37:44] public Publicity Committee due
[37:46] to the changes in the city
[37:46] s
[37:47] expectations for our board and
[37:50] commission members. Um, and
[37:53] lastly, we want to move the
[37:54] public comment period to the
[37:56] top so that if people want to
[37:57] come and speak, um, that they
[37:58] don
[37:59] t have to necessarily sit
[38:00] through COAs and other items of
[38:03] business. Um, and, and they can
[38:05] speak at the beginning of the
[38:06] meeting, just like we just did.
[38:08] Um, so if there are any
[38:10] questions, please. Now is the
[38:13] time to ask. Um, since is this
[38:14] since this is the second
[38:16] reading, there will need to be
[38:20] a vote for adoption of the edit
[38:21] of the or the revision of these
[38:24] rules of procedure. Okay.
[38:27] Um, do have that. All in favor?
[38:28] I.
[38:28] Um. I
[38:29] ll move approval.
[38:34] I move approval. Do we have a
[38:34] vote?
[38:37] No, we need a second. Okay,
[38:38] okay.
[38:40] Then. Everybody.
[38:42] Yes. Hi.
[38:43] All right.
[38:45] Okay. Fantastic. Thank you very
[38:50] much.
[38:52] Okay.
[38:54] Are there any more?
[38:56] Um, yes. Our next item is
[38:58] committee reports. So I
[38:58] ll go
[39:00] ahead and share that with you.
[39:03] Um, so our design review
[39:05] committee has not met. The
[39:06] selection committee also has
[39:09] not met. Um, but we previously
[39:12] or we I wanted to go over our
[39:13] membership for those two
[39:15] committees. Um, as we have a
[39:18] new member. Um, city council
[39:19] recently appointed two new
[39:22] members to hpc and, um, and
[39:23] right now we currently have
[39:25] Susan Daughtry, Rebecca Smith,
[39:27] Sidney McLeod, um, David
[39:28] Dennard and David Dennard on
[39:29] the Design Review Committee.
[39:32] There is one vacant position on
[39:34] that committee. Um, the
[39:35] selection committee members
[39:37] have three slots open. Please
[39:40] excuse that. Um, that Mistype,
[39:42] um, and Matthew Cox and Kamari
[39:45] Carter are currently on those
[39:46] committees. So if we have any
[39:49] volunteers for a committee, uh,
[39:53] that would be fantastic.
[39:54] Okay.
[39:56] Is there any, um, like,
[39:58] timeline or for those
[40:01] committees? Um.
[40:02] Timeline. How so? Like a
[40:04] monthly meeting?
[40:06] Like, should we have me? Should
[40:07] we meet before the next
[40:10] meeting? I mean, you know, or..
[40:11] Design review committee meets
[40:13] as needed. So. So when there
[40:13] s
[40:17] a Coa application, um, that for
[40:19] a major work, for example, um,
[40:21] that will need the approval of
[40:22] the design review committee
[40:24] before coming to hpc. That
[40:24] s
[40:24] when they
[40:25] ll meet. So that
[40:26] s a
[40:28] case by case basis. Okay. Um,
[40:29] the selection committee has not
[40:31] met. Um, they don
[40:32] t necessarily
[40:34] have a monthly meeting time.
[40:34] And that
[40:34] s something that the
[40:36] selection committee would, um,
[40:39] do themselves. Okay.
[40:40] I thought we were limited to
[40:41] four.
[40:43] So we were limited to four
[40:46] people on each. Um, committee.
[40:49] With the change of the rule
[40:51] procedure. Rule of procedure?
[40:52] Um, we now no longer have the
[40:54] publicity committee. So
[40:55] initially there were four to
[40:56] each committee. Now there are
[40:59] five to each committee. Um, as
[41:02] our, uh, hpc typically has ten
[41:04] members, the amount is ten
[41:08] members. Um, so those spots
[41:11] will be filled once we are a
[41:12] full commission. Again.
[41:15] And.
[41:16] Oh, and yes, the fifth. The
[41:19] fifth person on the, um, on
[41:20] each committee is the
[41:22] alternate. Right. Um, of that
[41:23] committee. So that person will
[41:25] not necessarily attend every
[41:26] committee meeting. They will
[41:28] attend ones where there might
[41:29] be somebody who MAY not be able
[41:31] to attend. Um, because there
[41:32] needs to be at least two people
[41:34] at each committee meeting in
[41:35] order for it to be a committee
[41:36] meeting. But we cannot have
[41:39] five, as that is quorum.
[41:41] That is a quorum of the.
[41:41] Historic.
[41:44] Hpc. Commission for our new
[41:45] member. So we can
[41:46] t if we do
[41:46] that, we
[41:47] d have to advertise
[41:48] and do those things.
[41:49] Thank you.
[41:51] And that makes sense. Sure.
[41:52] Yes.
[41:53] Okay.
[41:55] So.
[41:55] What
[41:57] s our working definition
[42:00] of a full committee?
[42:03] A full committee would be full.
[42:05] Four people. Yes. Okay. And
[42:06] then? And then there would be
[42:07] one alternate.
[42:07] That
[42:08] s our working definition.
[42:09] Yes. And then there would be
[42:11] one alternate who would fill
[42:13] that? That fifth position as as
[42:15] somebody who would, um, come to
[42:19] either committee meeting when
[42:22] as needed.
[42:23] Would you say either committee?
[42:24] Do you mean the design review
[42:26] committee or the selection
[42:29] committee? Yes. Thank you.
[42:30] No, they would pick a
[42:31] committee.
[42:35] Sure.
[42:37] All right. Great. Thank you
[42:40] very much. Um, if we have any,
[42:43] um, volunteers for committees,
[42:45] um, please let me know whether
[42:46] it be at this meeting or after.
[42:47] Thank you very much.
[42:51] Uh, the selection committee.
[42:51] Okay.
[42:53] Fantastic.
[42:54] I will talk to you down for
[43:04] that. All right. Fantastic. Um,
[43:06] so, on to minor works updates.
[43:09] We have had one minor work
[43:12] since our last meeting. Um, at
[43:15] the, I believe the Proctor
[43:18] Young house. Um, for routine
[43:19] maintenance, for restoring
[43:23] peeling paint. Um, and I have
[43:26] one announcement for you. Uh,
[43:27] the historic window
[43:28] preservation and restoration
[43:31] workshop that is happening on
[43:32] Saturday, JULY 11th. You should
[43:34] have received an email from me
[43:38] or several, um, and we are
[43:40] advertising on all platforms.
[43:44] Um, website. Um, social media
[43:47] and, um, we have shared this
[43:49] with adjoining, um, communities
[43:52] as well with their hpc and, and
[43:54] their staff. Um, to let them
[43:55] know that this is an
[43:56] opportunity, a learning
[43:58] opportunity for window
[44:02] preservation. Um, if you are
[44:03] interested, please join us.
[44:05] This does, um, count towards
[44:07] your training opportunities as
[44:09] as commission members? Um, I
[44:11] sent I sent an email with
[44:13] detailed information on that.
[44:15] Um, so please let me know if
[44:16] you have any questions on this
[44:17] workshop. And this qr code here
[44:18] on the screen is is for
[44:20] registration.
[44:21] Is this capped at a certain
[44:24] number? No. So it
[44:26] s just.
[44:27] Yep, yep. We just have
[44:29] registrations that we are aware
[44:30] of how many we might.
[44:30] Have.
[44:31] And where.
[44:32] The time.
[44:35] Yeah. It is at 9 A.M. On
[44:35] Saturday.
[44:36] Right in front of me. No
[44:37] worries.
[44:37] It helps to read.
[44:38] Yeah.
[44:38] No worries at all. I
[44:39] ll let you
[44:39] know. It
[44:39] s, um. It
[44:40] s Saturday,
[44:42] JULY 11th, from 9 A.M. To 12
[44:45] P.M.. Okay. Um, we have
[44:46] Colliers Engineering and Design
[44:47] has partnered with us, and
[44:47] they
[44:50] ve hired, um, uh, David,
[44:53] who does, um, who is an expert
[44:55] in his field for for window
[44:56] preservation. He
[44:57] s with double
[44:59] hung window preservation. Um,
[45:02] and and it will be at the Eppes
[45:03] Recreation Center in the
[45:06] multi-purpose room. And, uh,
[45:07] there will be some hands on
[45:09] learning opportunities as well
[45:13] as educational presentations.
[45:15] So, um, please join us if you
[45:17] can.
[45:18] For any member, you might
[45:19] explain why the training
[45:20] matters.
[45:23] Oh, absolutely. Ah, we had we
[45:24] had an orientation yesterday.
[45:26] Never mind. So so all good on
[45:28] that on that end. Um, but yes,
[45:30] the window workshop, I believe
[45:32] MR. Hitchcock is looking
[45:37] forward to it. Um, and I just I
[45:39] did want to I did want to also
[45:40] mention the Design Standards
[45:44] task force. Um, we have had
[45:46] four meetings up until this
[45:48] point, and we have two left.
[45:48] Um, it
[45:50] s been going great. Um,
[45:52] Andrew can speak on it if you
[45:52] d
[45:54] like to, but, um, but yeah, our
[45:56] next two meetings are AUGUST
[45:59] 19th and SEPTEMBER 9th. The
[46:01] next one will be on our last
[46:02] section of the design
[46:05] standards. And our last one on
[46:07] SEPTEMBER 9th will be the
[46:09] review of the finished draft.
[46:12] Um, and once that is complete,
[46:13] that final draft should come to
[46:17] hpc in the OCTOBER NOVEMBER
[46:18] timeline. That
[46:18] s what we are
[46:20] looking at right now.
[46:21] I want to confirm you said our
[46:22] next meeting was AUGUST 19th
[46:23] with us.
[46:26] No, not with us. Our meeting
[46:27] will still be our routine
[46:28] monthly. Gotcha. This is, um.
[46:29] This is for the Design
[46:30] Standards Task Force.
[46:31] Gotcha. Thank you.
[46:33] Yeah, absolutely.
[46:35] Then the consultants are, I
[46:37] think, doing a very good job of
[46:38] making it more readable,
[46:41] clarifying. Mhm. Moving.
[46:43] Clarifying what our standards
[46:45] and what our best practices.
[46:47] But I encourage the commission
[46:49] when that comes to them to read
[46:52] those carefully because there
[46:52] s
[46:54] some interesting questions
[46:57] there. Well I mean about what
[46:57] s
[46:58] the standard. What
[46:58] s the best
[47:00] practice. What what
[47:00] s a hill
[47:01] will die on. What
[47:02] s something
[47:02] we don
[47:03] t.
[47:05] Yes. And that will be sent out
[47:06] before the meeting. So there
[47:08] will be um, there will be due
[47:10] time for you to to review the
[47:12] standards and come back with
[47:13] any questions, comments or
[47:15] concerns. That
[47:16] s good.
[47:16] That
[47:18] s good. Also, the the
[47:19] email that you mentioned that
[47:22] we can be a part of the review
[47:23] or. No.
[47:25] If you would like to join the,
[47:28] the, um, the task force. Yes,
[47:31] absolutely. Um, so feel free
[47:32] to. I know we had spoken about
[47:33] that. Um, so if you
[47:33] re
[47:35] interested in, in coming to the
[47:37] next two task force meetings.
[47:38] Absolutely.
[47:38] Sure.
[47:41] Thank you. Um.
[47:42] Thank you. Great. That
[47:42] s all I
[47:45] have.
[47:52] Anything else? Uh, well, do I
[47:55] have a ready for adjournment?
[47:56] Motion?
[48:01] Uh. Yes. Sorry for adjournment.
[48:01] I
[48:03] ll move to adjourn.
[48:03] Second.
[48:03] I
[48:05] ll second.
[48:06] Anybody in approval?
[48:09] Aye. All right.
[48:10] All right. Thank you for your
[1:08:12] time.
[1:08:13] All right. Good evening. I
[1:08:13] d
[1:08:15] like to call the AUGUST 10th,
[1:08:17] 2026 meeting of Greenville City
[1:08:18] Council to order. I
[1:08:18] m Mayor pj
[1:08:19] Conley. I
[1:08:19] ll be presiding over
[1:08:19] tonight
[1:08:20] s meeting. First, I
[1:08:20] d
[1:08:22] like to call on Council Member
[1:08:24] Jones for the invocation,
[1:08:25] followed by the Pledge of
[1:08:25] Allegiance.
[1:08:28] If you join me in prayer, dear
[1:08:29] Lord, we come before you with
[1:08:31] gratitude for the opportunity
[1:08:33] to serve our community. We ask
[1:08:34] you for your wisdom, guidance,
[1:08:36] and discernment as we consider
[1:08:38] the matters before us today.
[1:08:39] Help us to listen with open
[1:08:41] minds. Speak with respect and
[1:08:44] take this this discussion with
[1:08:45] fairness, integrity and
[1:08:47] compassion. Remind us that our
[1:08:48] responsibility is to serve all
[1:08:50] members of our community, and
[1:08:51] to work together for the common
[1:08:53] good. Give us patience,
[1:08:54] humility, and courage to do
[1:08:56] what is right. MAY our
[1:08:57] decisions promote peace,
[1:08:59] safety, opportunity, and the
[1:09:00] well-being of every person and
[1:09:02] family we represent. Bless our
[1:09:04] city, its residents, its
[1:09:06] leaders, and all those who work
[1:09:08] to make our community a better
[1:09:09] place. MAY we leave this
[1:09:10] meeting committed to serving
[1:09:13] others with wisdom, honesty and
[1:09:15] grace. In your name we pray.
[1:09:15] Amen.
[1:09:17] Amen. Amen. Please stand for
[1:09:20] the Pledge of Allegiance.
[1:09:23] Pledge allegiance to the flag
[1:09:24] of the United States of
[1:09:26] America. And to the Republic
[1:09:29] for which it stands. One nation
[1:09:32] under GOD, indivisible, with
[1:09:38] liberty and justice for all.
[1:09:39] MADAM Clerk, will you please
[1:09:40] call the roll?
[1:09:42] Yes, sir. Mayor Conley here.
[1:09:43] Mayor Pro tem Forman. Council
[1:09:45] member. Jones here. Council
[1:09:46] member. Hardy. Here. Council
[1:09:48] member Scalise, let us know. He
[1:09:49] will not be attending this
[1:09:50] evening. Council member
[1:09:51] Robinson here. Council member
[1:09:52] Wallace here. All right. Mayor
[1:09:53] Connolly, have a quorum.
[1:09:54] Thank you very much. We
[1:09:54] ll now
[1:09:55] move on to approval of
[1:09:56] tonight
[1:09:57] s agenda. MISTER
[1:09:58] Manager, any recommend changes?
[1:09:59] No changes. Do I have a motion
[1:10:00] to approve the agenda?
[1:10:01] Motion to approve. Second.
[1:10:02] All right. Motion to be made by
[1:10:04] Council. Jones. Second by
[1:10:05] Councilmember Robinson. All
[1:10:06] those in favor say aye.
[1:10:06] Aye, aye.
[1:10:07] Those opposed say nay.
[1:10:09] Motion passes five zero.
[1:10:11] Thank you.
[1:10:15] Move on to special recognitions.
[1:10:37] Good evening. Um, tonight we
[1:10:39] would like to recognize our
[1:10:40] newest junior fire marshal
[1:10:42] Academy graduates. So if you
[1:10:43] guys would come on up and join
[1:10:53] us on the stage. So while
[1:10:53] they
[1:10:53] re while they
[1:10:54] re coming
[1:10:56] up, um, this is our 12th year
[1:10:57] of the junior fire marshal
[1:10:58] Academy. Uh, we
[1:10:58] re really
[1:10:59] excited. It
[1:10:59] s an exciting week
[1:11:00] for us. And it
[1:11:01] s an exciting
[1:11:02] week for our staff because we
[1:11:04] get to bring in these bright,
[1:11:06] beautiful faces in from the
[1:11:07] outside and teach them some
[1:11:09] very important topics, such as
[1:11:11] fire prevention, water safety.
[1:11:12] We teach them how to use fire
[1:11:13] extinguishers, different first
[1:11:15] aid topics, and how to do cpr
[1:11:16] and which, uh, you don
[1:11:17] t think
[1:11:18] that that really makes a
[1:11:19] difference to the kids this
[1:11:20] age, but it does, because what
[1:11:21] they do is they go home and
[1:11:22] they teach other people and
[1:11:23] other friends how to do it, and
[1:11:24] it prepares them in the event
[1:11:25] of an emergency. So we
[1:11:26] re super
[1:11:27] excited. We had a really great
[1:11:28] week this year. Again, this is
[1:11:29] our 12th year and it just gets
[1:11:31] better and better every year.
[1:11:32] But we just want to recognize
[1:11:34] these cadets. Um, Chief Bedford
[1:11:35] and Grace, they do a great job
[1:11:36] through our life Safety
[1:11:37] division of putting this on
[1:11:38] every year. And there
[1:11:38] s a lot
[1:11:39] of city staff. It
[1:11:39] s no one
[1:11:40] department that does this.
[1:11:40] It
[1:11:42] s, um, you know, all the
[1:11:42] departments come together to
[1:11:44] help us out with the different
[1:11:45] things we need during that
[1:11:45] week. So, chief, better than
[1:11:46] anything you
[1:11:47] d like to add or.
[1:11:47] No, I.
[1:11:48] Just want to thank all the
[1:11:49] parents that got them there.
[1:11:51] Uh, every day during the week.
[1:11:52] I know there was a week to get
[1:11:53] them there, but we really had a
[1:11:54] great time with all.
[1:11:55] Of you.
[1:11:55] So thank you.
[1:11:57] All.
[1:11:57] Okay. I
[1:11:58] m going to let them
[1:12:01] tell you their names.
[1:12:03] So.
[1:12:04] Levi.
[1:12:05] DeAndre.
[1:12:11] Hey then Josh, Charlie, Gabe.
[1:12:14] Collier, Carson. Wyatt,
[1:12:16] Matthew. Nolan.
[1:12:18] All right, one more big round.
[1:12:20] Of applause to our newest
[1:12:23] graduates. And hopefully
[1:12:23] they
[1:12:23] ll they
[1:12:24] ll.
[1:12:25] Be looking for a job here soon.
[1:12:25] And we
[1:12:28] ll get them ready to go.
[1:12:31] Oh, in the payroll.
[1:12:32] Volunteer.
[1:12:33] Fire station.
[1:12:34] Eight.
[1:12:35] Staffing for fire station
[1:12:35] eight.
[1:12:36] That
[1:13:09] s right.
[1:13:10] All the phones.
[1:13:24] About two stars.
[1:13:26] I heard one of them say I
[1:13:27] thought the city manager was a
[1:13:29] lot cooler.
[1:13:30] Did you see him.
[1:13:33] Leave me hanging my hands.
[1:13:36] Hi, stranger. Danger. Smart
[1:13:37] kids.
[1:13:38] Huh?
[1:13:40] All right, we
[1:13:41] ll move on now to
[1:13:42] the public comment period. The
[1:13:43] public period is a period
[1:13:44] reserve for comments by the
[1:13:45] public. Items that were or
[1:13:46] scheduled to be subject to a
[1:13:47] public hearing conducted this
[1:13:48] meeting or other meeting during
[1:13:48] the same week shall not be
[1:13:49] discussed. A total of 30
[1:13:50] minutes is allocated, with each
[1:13:51] individual being allowed no
[1:13:52] more than three minutes.
[1:13:53] Individuals who are registered
[1:13:54] with City Clerk will speak in
[1:13:56] the order Register until the
[1:13:58] allotted 30 minutes expires. If
[1:13:59] time remains. After all persons
[1:14:00] have registered have spoken,
[1:14:01] individuals who do not register
[1:14:02] will have an opportunity to
[1:14:03] speak until the allotted 30
[1:14:04] minutes expires. MADAM Clerk,
[1:14:05] our first Speaker..
[1:14:07] Yes, sir. MR. Don Cavallini,
[1:14:08] you have three minutes to
[1:14:17] address the mayor and council.
[1:14:18] Good evening.
[1:14:20] Good evening, good evening.
[1:14:22] You know, while I was walking
[1:14:27] from the G.K. Butterfield bus
[1:14:29] station through downtown to
[1:14:33] come here tonight, uh, I kind
[1:14:34] of marveled how beautiful the
[1:14:37] city is and how fortunate I am
[1:14:38] to live in this city for the
[1:14:43] last 41 years. Um, truly
[1:14:48] blessed. Uh. Tonight, I
[1:14:48] m not
[1:14:51] talking for anybody but myself.
[1:14:54] Even though I am a member of
[1:14:56] the Cambridge Neighborhood
[1:14:59] Association of the road. And in
[1:15:01] fact, a past PRESIDENT Of that
[1:15:02] association. And I
[1:15:03] m presently
[1:15:07] the co-chair of the Pike County
[1:15:10] Coalition Against Racism. I
[1:15:12] attended the workshop, the
[1:15:14] working session prior to this,
[1:15:16] uh, city council meeting, and
[1:15:19] they talked about a critical a
[1:15:21] criteria point system for
[1:15:24] placing of traffic calming
[1:15:27] devices. You know, uh, speed
[1:15:30] bumps, uh, speed mitigation of
[1:15:35] some kind. And I noticed I, um,
[1:15:37] I kind of wondered what it
[1:15:39] includes incidents when people
[1:15:42] have died by vehicle. I didn
[1:15:42] t
[1:15:43] hear that mention, but I might
[1:15:46] have missed something in my
[1:15:48] neighborhood, which is
[1:15:50] overwhelmingly
[1:15:51] African-American. We
[1:15:52] ve noticed
[1:15:56] when someone loses their life,
[1:15:58] uh, in the university
[1:15:59] neighborhood, for example, on
[1:16:04] 10th Street, traffic stops for
[1:16:08] pedestrian signs are placed.
[1:16:10] Whereas when two people were
[1:16:11] run over in my hookah road
[1:16:13] neighborhood in the last five
[1:16:16] years, all we got was rumble
[1:16:20] stick signs and rumble strips.
[1:16:22] I think they call them. So I
[1:16:23] m
[1:16:26] wondering about this disparity.
[1:16:30] Um, and I also wonder sometimes
[1:16:34] when things like curfews are
[1:16:37] recommended downtown for people
[1:16:39] who are less than 18 years old,
[1:16:42] what are we trying to do? I can
[1:16:44] understand the threat that a
[1:16:47] teen takeover might pose, but
[1:16:49] to have a curfew from Thursday
[1:16:52] to Saturday from 11 to 6 on all
[1:16:53] 18 year olds, I mean, all of
[1:16:57] those under 18, I wonder how
[1:16:59] that will be enforced and
[1:17:02] whether that too will be a
[1:17:04] disparity. Thank you.
[1:17:07] Thank you.
[1:17:08] Okay. Thank you, MADAM Clerk.
[1:17:10] Our next speaker.
[1:17:16] Yes, sir. Next speaker is MR.
[1:17:18] Matthew Greenview. I
[1:17:19] m very
[1:17:20] sorry if I got that wrong, but
[1:17:21] you have three minutes to
[1:17:31] address the mayor and council.
[1:17:34] I just wanted to express my
[1:17:38] concern about flock safety. Um,
[1:17:39] you know, when I first heard
[1:17:41] about flock, uh, they said they
[1:17:42] were said to have located
[1:17:44] 10,000 missing children. And
[1:17:45] then I looked into it a little
[1:17:47] further, and the numbers are
[1:17:48] provided from an internal
[1:17:50] database provided by Flock
[1:17:52] Safety, which is the company
[1:17:54] that runs flock cameras. Um,
[1:17:56] flock cameras have already been
[1:17:58] proven to be abused by police
[1:18:00] officers in 50 proven
[1:18:01] instances. Uh, we don
[1:18:02] t know
[1:18:03] how many more have not been
[1:18:04] documented. Uh, it
[1:18:06] s an $8.4
[1:18:09] billion industry. And my main
[1:18:12] concern is that flock cameras
[1:18:14] are going to be used to survey
[1:18:16] and track ordinary citizens.
[1:18:17] Thank you.
[1:18:19] Thank you very much, MADAM
[1:18:20] Clerk. Our next speaker.
[1:18:21] We do not have any additional
[1:18:22] registered speakers.
[1:18:23] Anyone else like to speak to
[1:18:23] the public? Comment here.
[1:18:24] Please come forward. State your
[1:18:25] name. For the record, the first
[1:18:43] person has three minutes. None.
[1:18:44] We
[1:18:44] ll close public comment
[1:18:45] period. We
[1:18:45] ll move on to the
[1:18:47] consent agenda, MR. Manager.
[1:18:48] Thank you. Mayor.
[1:18:49] Consent agenda, item number
[1:18:51] two. Approval of minutes. Item
[1:18:52] number three, approval of the
[1:18:54] amended general record schedule
[1:18:56] for local government agencies.
[1:18:57] Item number four conveyance of
[1:18:59] right of way in easements for
[1:19:00] the North Carolina Department
[1:19:02] of Transportation project. Us
[1:19:06] 5917. State road 1704 East 14th
[1:19:08] Street. Widening from Red Banks
[1:19:12] Road to State Road 1708. East
[1:19:13] Fire Tower Road. Item number
[1:19:15] five. Resolution authorizing
[1:19:17] the conveyance of city owned
[1:19:19] real property located at 710
[1:19:21] Fleming Street. Parcel number
[1:19:24] 06335 and 817 Fleming Street.
[1:19:27] Parcel number ten 824 to
[1:19:28] habitat for Humanity of Pitt
[1:19:29] County, I. Number six
[1:19:30] resolution approving lease
[1:19:32] agreements for Hazard
[1:19:33] Mitigation grant program
[1:19:34] properties. Item number seven
[1:19:36] renewal of municipal agreements
[1:19:37] with the North Carolina
[1:19:38] Department of Transportation
[1:19:40] for traffic Signal Maintenance,
[1:19:41] item number eight.
[1:19:42] Authorization to apply for
[1:19:44] assistance to Firefighters.
[1:19:46] Grant to fund ems equipment and
[1:19:47] training. Item number nine
[1:19:49] authorization to apply for
[1:19:50] assistance to firefighters.
[1:19:52] Grant to purchase a firefighter
[1:19:54] fighting vehicle. Item number
[1:19:56] ten contract award to Allied
[1:19:58] Universal Security Services for
[1:20:00] security and risk mitigation
[1:20:02] services at gk Butterfield
[1:20:03] Transportation Center. Item
[1:20:05] number 11 construction contract
[1:20:06] award for Woodland Park
[1:20:08] improvements. Item number 12
[1:20:09] purchase of water feature
[1:20:11] equipment for a town common
[1:20:13] bulkhead. Project I, number 13
[1:20:15] construction contract award for
[1:20:16] the Wildwood Park West Side
[1:20:18] Parking and Pier project. Item
[1:20:20] number 14. Requests by police
[1:20:21] department to utilize asset
[1:20:22] forfeiture funds to purchase
[1:20:25] equipment and item number 15.
[1:20:26] Various tax refunds greater
[1:20:28] than $100.
[1:20:30] All right.
[1:20:30] I
[1:20:32] d like to pull item number
[1:20:33] 11.
[1:20:34] Motion to. Approve items two.
[1:20:36] Through 15 minus item 11,
[1:20:39] pursuant. COUNCILMAN, of
[1:20:40] course.
[1:20:41] Right.
[1:20:41] That
[1:20:43] s a motion been made by
[1:20:44] Councilmember Robinson. Second
[1:20:45] by Councilmember Willis. All
[1:20:46] those in favor say aye. Aye,
[1:20:48] aye. Those opposed say nay.
[1:20:50] Motion passes five zero.
[1:20:51] Move on to item number 11.
[1:20:52] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[1:20:54] 11. Construction contract award
[1:20:56] for Woodland Park improvements.
[1:20:57] I now call forward executive
[1:20:59] director Don Octagon to answer
[1:21:03] any questions.
[1:21:07] Mayor Marion Hardy. Good
[1:21:09] evening, good evening, good
[1:21:11] evening. Yes, sir.
[1:21:12] Glad to answer any question you
[1:21:13] MAY have.
[1:21:14] Uh, know that when we first
[1:21:15] talked about this project,
[1:21:17] there was some different
[1:21:18] features that were up for
[1:21:22] consideration due to their are
[1:21:25] with funding, uh, rollover from
[1:21:26] the Town Common project. And I
[1:21:28] was just wondering if there was
[1:21:30] an exact, you know, detailed
[1:21:31] scope of work that is going to
[1:21:33] be completed over there at, uh,
[1:21:33] Woodland Park.
[1:21:34] Sure. Yeah. So, uh, this
[1:21:36] project is, uh, we received a
[1:21:38] $500,000 Ada grant from the
[1:21:39] state. Uh, so it
[1:21:40] ll be
[1:21:42] enhancing the Ada access, uh,
[1:21:43] in the park. Uh, we
[1:21:43] ll have
[1:21:45] improvements to the shelter,
[1:21:47] have a multi-use, uh, sports
[1:21:49] court on site. We have two Ada
[1:21:50] parking spots, uh, new
[1:21:51] playground equipment. Uh,
[1:21:52] that
[1:21:53] s for ages. Um, for
[1:21:54] teenagers. So that it
[1:21:54] s it
[1:21:55] s
[1:21:56] for the ages that live in the
[1:21:58] in the area. Um, also, we have
[1:22:01] other, um, elements such as a
[1:22:03] foosball table and also
[1:22:04] cornhole, uh, which was
[1:22:06] requested in the, in the, uh,
[1:22:07] input meeting that we had on
[1:22:08] site. Uh, so nothing was cut
[1:22:11] from the, from the project. Um,
[1:22:12] the city itself performing some
[1:22:13] of the items which help lower
[1:22:15] the cost. Um, but we were able
[1:22:16] to move forward with the full
[1:22:17] project design.
[1:22:17] Perfect.
[1:22:19] Thank you.
[1:22:20] Cool.
[1:22:21] Motion to approve.
[1:22:22] Second.
[1:22:23] All right. Motion.
[1:22:24] Councilmember. Already signed
[1:22:25] by Councilmember Robinson. All
[1:22:26] those in favor say aye.
[1:22:27] Aye, aye.
[1:22:27] Opposed.
[1:22:29] Motion passes five zero.
[1:22:31] Hey, before we move into, uh,
[1:22:32] new business. Do you want to
[1:22:33] highlight some of the great
[1:22:34] things that we
[1:22:34] re in that, I
[1:22:35] mean, even though we didn
[1:22:35] t
[1:22:36] talk about it, we didn
[1:22:36] t pull.
[1:22:37] Those.
[1:22:37] Yeah. So I tell you, I
[1:22:38] ll tell
[1:22:41] you what. Yeah. You know, uh,
[1:22:42] thank you, mayor, for that,
[1:22:45] because normally many of these
[1:22:46] items would have actually been
[1:22:48] presented as presentations, but
[1:22:50] we just have so many great
[1:22:52] projects on this council agenda
[1:22:53] tonight that we had to
[1:22:56] abbreviate the agenda. But not
[1:22:57] only do we have the
[1:22:58] improvements to Woodlawn Park,
[1:23:00] which have been years in the
[1:23:02] making, we also have a water
[1:23:03] feature that
[1:23:04] s been installed
[1:23:05] down at the town common
[1:23:06] bulkhead. It
[1:23:07] s a water feature
[1:23:08] centered around stormwater
[1:23:11] retention and clean energy that
[1:23:13] will be available for kids to
[1:23:14] enjoy. There
[1:23:15] s a contract award
[1:23:18] for Wildwood Park to, uh, to
[1:23:20] build a fishing pier and a and
[1:23:23] a parking lot on the west side.
[1:23:25] That is a project that is, uh,
[1:23:27] been put into place through a
[1:23:30] collaboration with with, um,
[1:23:34] golly bridge, Baton Rouge
[1:23:36] ballot is, uh, he is funding
[1:23:38] that project for us. And so
[1:23:39] just some, some great projects
[1:23:41] that we have that are over
[1:23:43] there in the on the town common
[1:23:44] side.
[1:23:45] Excellent. Yes. All right.
[1:23:45] Let
[1:23:47] s move on to new business.
[1:23:48] All right. Under new business,
[1:23:50] item number 16, presentation by
[1:23:51] boards of commissions. The
[1:23:52] first presentation will have is
[1:23:54] the Multimodal Transportation
[1:23:55] Commission. I will now call
[1:23:56] forward on multimodal
[1:23:58] transportation chair James Byrd
[1:24:00] for the presentation.
[1:24:03] MISTER Manager, it looks like,
[1:24:04] um, Doctor Byrd has maybe
[1:24:06] walked out. Is he on the way?
[1:24:08] I think he assumed it was
[1:24:10] longer than that.
[1:24:10] That
[1:24:11] s all right. We can go
[1:24:12] back to him. You want to. Do
[1:24:13] you want to skip? We
[1:24:13] ll go.
[1:24:13] Next to the plan.
[1:24:14] That
[1:24:15] s fine.
[1:24:15] We
[1:24:16] ll move on to the second
[1:24:17] presentation. The planning and
[1:24:17] zoning Commission. I
[1:24:18] ll call
[1:24:20] for the pnc CHAIRMAN, John
[1:24:25] Collins, for the presentation.
[1:24:27] All right. Well, I have the
[1:24:30] text. All right. So, uh, good
[1:24:32] evening, council members.
[1:24:32] I
[1:24:34] m John Collins, I
[1:24:34] m the.
[1:24:34] I
[1:24:35] m sorry. You just got to
[1:24:36] scroll through the PRESIDENT.
[1:24:37] Sure.
[1:24:37] I don
[1:24:38] t really. Let
[1:24:39] s see. All
[1:24:40] right.
[1:24:46] You got this, John.
[1:24:46] Mine
[1:24:51] s a little shorter. We
[1:24:51] ll
[1:24:56] get there. All right.
[1:24:56] So I
[1:24:57] m John Collins. I
[1:24:58] m the
[1:24:59] chair of the city of Greenville
[1:25:01] Planning and Zoning Commission,
[1:25:03] planning and zoning Commission
[1:25:05] is composed of seven regular
[1:25:07] members and two alternate
[1:25:08] members that reside inside the
[1:25:10] corporate limits of the city
[1:25:11] and are appointed by the city
[1:25:13] council and two of the regular
[1:25:14] members and one alternate
[1:25:16] member reside in the limits of
[1:25:18] the extraterritorial
[1:25:20] jurisdiction of the city, and
[1:25:21] are appointed by the Pitt
[1:25:22] County Commissioners.
[1:25:24] The purpose.
[1:25:25] Of the Commission is to review
[1:25:28] and make recommendations to
[1:25:30] City Council for rezoning its
[1:25:32] extensions. Text amendments.
[1:25:35] Comprehensive plan adoption or
[1:25:37] amendments. Street closings,
[1:25:39] street name changes, and to
[1:25:40] review and make final decisions
[1:25:42] on preliminary subdivision
[1:25:44] plats. All meetings are open to
[1:25:47] the public. Our activity over
[1:25:50] the past year be considered 32
[1:25:52] applications. 14 of them were
[1:25:54] rezoning requests, five were
[1:25:56] text amendments, ten
[1:25:58] preliminary plats, one future
[1:26:00] land use and Character Map
[1:26:01] amendment, and two street
[1:26:04] closings. Now, there are
[1:26:06] significant item of activity
[1:26:08] was the consideration of the
[1:26:10] Unified Development Ordinance,
[1:26:13] or Udo, in preparation, a
[1:26:15] special public meeting was held
[1:26:16] to give the commissioners a
[1:26:17] preliminary view of the major
[1:26:19] changes for the proposed Udo
[1:26:21] and to provide an opportunity
[1:26:22] to ask questions and give
[1:26:24] comments. At the SEPTEMBER
[1:26:28] 16th, 2025 Planning and Zoning
[1:26:29] Commission meeting, the
[1:26:30] Commission unanimously
[1:26:32] recommended approval of the
[1:26:32] Udo. I
[1:26:33] d like to thank city
[1:26:35] staff for the preparation of
[1:26:37] the report. Are there any
[1:26:38] questions?
[1:26:40] Any questions?
[1:26:41] Great work.
[1:26:42] Yeah.
[1:26:43] Thank you, thank you, thank you
[1:26:46] for what you do. Thanks. Okay.
[1:26:47] Thank you, mayor. And we
[1:26:47] ll
[1:26:49] move back up to the Multimodal
[1:26:51] Transportation Commission. And
[1:26:53] now call for a multimodal
[1:26:54] transportation chairperson,
[1:26:55] James Burke, for the
[1:26:58] presentation.
[1:27:00] Thank you folks.
[1:27:01] Thank you. So have everybody.
[1:27:03] Doing here tonight. I
[1:27:03] ve had a
[1:27:04] bit of a health issue, so I had
[1:27:06] to step out. So, uh, so I
[1:27:07] m
[1:27:09] happy. Are these my slides?
[1:27:10] Looks like it.
[1:27:13] Yes, sir. Okay.
[1:27:17] My slides next.
[1:27:17] Let
[1:27:34] s see.
[1:27:36] Thank you. Any of you know
[1:27:37] Mona? She
[1:27:39] s the co-chair of my
[1:27:41] committee. And she attends a
[1:27:43] lot of meetings, so thankfully,
[1:27:45] she can help me here. Uh, so
[1:27:46] this is the Greenville
[1:27:48] Multimodal Transportation
[1:27:50] Commission, our 2025 annual
[1:27:55] report. And we want people to
[1:27:57] join us. Several people do join
[1:27:59] us regularly. We meet every
[1:28:01] third Wednesday of every of the
[1:28:02] month. And the months are
[1:28:04] listed here. Uh, we meet at 530
[1:28:06] in the conference room. A great
[1:28:07] conference room at the
[1:28:08] Butterfield Transportation
[1:28:10] Center. So our purpose is to
[1:28:12] advance and encourage
[1:28:13] multimodal options for
[1:28:15] community members and visitors
[1:28:17] for Greenville. I think in some
[1:28:17] ways, we
[1:28:18] re looking at what are
[1:28:20] the ways to get around town,
[1:28:22] enjoy getting around town
[1:28:24] safely, not in automobiles. So
[1:28:26] whether it be by walking,
[1:28:29] biking, riding, taking a bus.
[1:28:30] Uh, we think there need to be
[1:28:32] other options. And then
[1:28:34] driving. Uh, we hope to provide
[1:28:36] advice and recommendations to
[1:28:38] the city council and issues
[1:28:40] about public transportation,
[1:28:42] micromobility bikes and
[1:28:46] pedestrians. Uh, part of this
[1:28:46] you
[1:28:47] re going to see is very
[1:28:49] similar to last year. Uh, I am
[1:28:52] now the chair. Mona is the
[1:28:54] co-chair. Uh, and the following
[1:28:56] people, uh, three people are
[1:28:58] the new members. Uh, last year
[1:29:01] we came to you and, uh, we had
[1:29:01] five members. We
[1:29:02] re two short
[1:29:03] of what the full commission
[1:29:05] would be. The only two people
[1:29:07] remaining from last year are
[1:29:09] MISS Epps and myself. So we
[1:29:09] ve
[1:29:11] had fairly dramatic turnover.
[1:29:12] Uh, we
[1:29:13] ve had at least two of
[1:29:14] our meetings where we didn
[1:29:14] t
[1:29:16] have a quorum, so we got a lot
[1:29:20] more done through 2025. And we
[1:29:22] just introduced MISTER Nichols,
[1:29:24] MISTER Ramsey and MR. Ruffin at
[1:29:28] our last meeting. So in
[1:29:30] activities, uh, I think one of
[1:29:31] the big ones that we will be
[1:29:34] involved with is the nct dot
[1:29:35] Pedestrian Safety Grant. I
[1:29:37] think that was headed up by
[1:29:40] the, uh, by Kat Dale, who
[1:29:41] previously was the co-chair of
[1:29:43] our committee. Uh, there she
[1:29:49] is. Um, and we, I think are
[1:29:49] excited. And we
[1:29:50] ll see in just
[1:29:51] a minute that we have been
[1:29:53] quite excited about the micro
[1:29:56] transit. Uh, uh, launch. I
[1:29:57] presume you folks have heard
[1:29:59] about that and and given
[1:30:02] updates on the, uh, the, uh,
[1:30:04] the rideshare and the
[1:30:06] opportunities to call in for
[1:30:08] rides and the, uh, area one
[1:30:10] about north of the river has
[1:30:11] been pretty exciting with the
[1:30:13] growth from that. And while
[1:30:13] they
[1:30:14] ve continued to maintain
[1:30:16] ridership on the fixed routes
[1:30:21] in that area. So and these are
[1:30:22] the things that have been
[1:30:24] addressed and I think are being
[1:30:26] worked on on a regular basis.
[1:30:29] Uh, funding for sidewalk infill,
[1:30:31] uh, working on Ada
[1:30:34] noncompliance, uh, looking at
[1:30:35] we just talked about the Ido,
[1:30:37] uh, but street tree and
[1:30:40] sidewalk ordinances. Um, I am
[1:30:42] going to get a I thought I had
[1:30:44] five minutes, but somebody told
[1:30:45] me I have ten. Uh, at the end
[1:30:47] of my talk, I just have some
[1:30:49] slides of some streets in the
[1:30:50] city. I was going to focus a
[1:30:52] little bit on my street. Why is
[1:30:53] it my street? Because I
[1:30:54] ve
[1:30:56] driven it for at least twice a
[1:30:58] day for the past 25 years,
[1:30:59] coming down Arlington
[1:31:00] Boulevard. It
[1:31:00] s not really my
[1:31:03] street. Um, but it is a street
[1:31:06] this 5.3 miles long, and it has
[1:31:10] a continuous sidewalk for
[1:31:14] 99.8%. If anybody up here can
[1:31:18] tell me the 200ft that there
[1:31:18] s
[1:31:20] not a sidewalk, you win a bag
[1:31:21] of candy that I brought with
[1:31:22] me. So does anybody know where
[1:31:26] it is? Okay, well, think about
[1:31:29] it. Uh, historically, my
[1:31:30] teaching partner and I at the
[1:31:31] School of Medicine, we take
[1:31:33] either cookies or candy with
[1:31:35] our group, and sometimes we
[1:31:36] give it out freely, and
[1:31:37] sometimes they have to answer
[1:31:39] questions properly to win a
[1:31:42] prize. Uh, I think that we
[1:31:42] ve
[1:31:44] been interested in curb
[1:31:46] extensions issue of using
[1:31:48] billed funds. Uh, and we
[1:31:48] ve had
[1:31:50] great help from agencies in the
[1:31:52] city, individuals, the city.
[1:31:54] And we wanted to highlight Lisa
[1:31:56] Kirby, who I spoke with at
[1:31:58] length today. Uh, Sergeant Erin
[1:32:00] Lemon, Major Montane, Jeff
[1:32:03] Rasco, and again, I think the
[1:32:05] micro transit pilot of some of
[1:32:08] the bus stop upgrades. Um, I
[1:32:09] will point on my road now,
[1:32:11] Arlington Boulevard, between
[1:32:15] the fire tower and, uh, and
[1:32:18] there are now six new, uh,
[1:32:19] benches that were not there
[1:32:20] before, which is pretty
[1:32:22] exciting that people waiting
[1:32:22] for buses don
[1:32:24] t have to stand,
[1:32:31] but they can sit. Um, since we
[1:32:33] have three new members I left
[1:32:34] up and read here that we have
[1:32:36] not changed our priorities from
[1:32:38] last year and our first
[1:32:39] meeting. We did not have the
[1:32:41] opportunity to get the input
[1:32:42] from the three new members
[1:32:43] about what they would like to
[1:32:45] do with our group over the next
[1:32:47] year, so we stayed with these
[1:32:50] priorities. So, and I think
[1:32:50] that we
[1:32:52] re clearly interested
[1:32:54] in adding bike and pedestrian
[1:32:57] facilities. Um, and I will talk
[1:32:59] a little bit if we look like we
[1:33:00] will get to my slides about how
[1:33:02] we stripe roadways, how we
[1:33:04] stripe the crosswalks that we
[1:33:06] have in the city. And I think,
[1:33:09] uh, looking for uniformity. So
[1:33:12] pedestrians and people who are
[1:33:13] driving understand when they
[1:33:15] come to a corner, uh, what
[1:33:20] these crosswalks mean. Um,
[1:33:22] center lines, um, bike lanes
[1:33:25] are a real challenge. Uh, I was
[1:33:28] originally, uh, approached to
[1:33:29] join this, uh, committee
[1:33:31] because I lived for 20 years in
[1:33:33] Milwaukee, in Minneapolis,
[1:33:35] which are two of the most bike
[1:33:36] friendly, walking friendly
[1:33:38] cities in the United States.
[1:33:38] And there
[1:33:40] s a tremendous number
[1:33:41] of bike lanes, and I
[1:33:42] d love to
[1:33:45] see them here. Uh, again, I
[1:33:47] visited crosswalks and unmarked
[1:33:48] intersections and high
[1:33:50] pedestrian areas. Right now,
[1:33:52] most of our crosswalks will be
[1:33:53] where we have a traffic light
[1:33:55] rather than an unmarked
[1:33:59] intersection. Um, slower
[1:34:01] speeds, safer roads. Uh, this
[1:34:03] past year, you guys lowered the
[1:34:04] speed limit on 10th Street,
[1:34:07] which was a great idea by ecu.
[1:34:08] And I think there
[1:34:09] s other
[1:34:10] opportunities to lower our
[1:34:14] speeds. And then another one is
[1:34:14] we
[1:34:15] d love to get new people
[1:34:18] here. I think that was a pretty
[1:34:19] audacious goal when we said
[1:34:22] that. But I think people like
[1:34:23] to come where they can
[1:34:24] recreate, where they can move
[1:34:27] around the city safely. Uh,
[1:34:29] when I was in Minneapolis going
[1:34:30] to medical school, I could bike
[1:34:32] about seven miles across the
[1:34:34] city safely to and from school.
[1:34:34] I
[1:34:36] d love to be able to have our
[1:34:37] medical students be able to do
[1:34:42] that here in green. So, um, and
[1:34:46] you can read that. So I think
[1:34:46] there
[1:34:48] s a lot going on. There
[1:34:48] s
[1:34:52] a lot left to be done. And then
[1:34:56] we have other opportunities
[1:34:58] that MAY come our way. So I
[1:34:58] ll
[1:34:59] stop there. That
[1:34:59] s what we did.
[1:35:01] And this is sort of extra
[1:35:03] credit to show you guys a few
[1:35:04] things that have caught my
[1:35:06] attention. Yes, I go along
[1:35:08] Arlington Boulevard over the
[1:35:11] past few days, a few weeks, 25
[1:35:16] years. Okay, let me move on.
[1:35:18] This is, uh, if you take a look
[1:35:19] across the road just below the
[1:35:22] American flag, there is a new
[1:35:23] crossing signal there. And this
[1:35:26] is at Arlington and Red banks.
[1:35:26] And that
[1:35:28] s pretty exciting. We
[1:35:28] haven
[1:35:29] t had one of those in a
[1:35:31] long time. I will point out
[1:35:34] that between, uh, uh, Fire
[1:35:37] Tower Road and, uh, and Red
[1:35:40] banks, there is no way to cross
[1:35:41] Arlington. And this is the
[1:35:43] first place where we can cross
[1:35:45] the cross Street. And that
[1:35:45] s
[1:35:47] 1.3 miles. So please take a
[1:35:48] look at the crosswalk there.
[1:35:51] This is at Arlington and Red
[1:35:55] Bank. Um, this is at, uh, the
[1:35:57] next place you can cross a
[1:35:59] street on Arlington is at
[1:36:00] Greenville Boulevard. This is
[1:36:02] you can see at the Greenville
[1:36:03] Mall. You can see we have a
[1:36:04] different type of crosswalk
[1:36:06] here. We have one where we have
[1:36:08] the horizontal lines across.
[1:36:11] Uh, I did, and speaking to MISS
[1:36:12] Kirby, uh, apparently this is
[1:36:14] going to be the preferred way
[1:36:16] that we will mark our
[1:36:19] crosswalks in the future. And
[1:36:20] even though they have the brand
[1:36:25] new, uh, hand up to, uh, allow
[1:36:26] you to come across the street
[1:36:27] at Red banks, we don
[1:36:28] t have the
[1:36:29] crosshatch at. And hopefully
[1:36:31] that could be coordinated by
[1:36:34] the time that is going. Now, I
[1:36:35] mixed up on putting a slide in
[1:36:36] here. This was supposed to be
[1:36:38] the next place you can cross
[1:36:41] the street, which was at Evans.
[1:36:43] Uh, this happens to be a
[1:36:46] crossing at, uh, I think at,
[1:36:49] um, Memorial in Arlington. But
[1:36:51] the picture is the same. And
[1:36:52] what you have here, can you see
[1:36:54] the crosswalk on this side of
[1:36:58] the street? The crosswalk is a
[1:36:59] couple of white dots. There.
[1:36:59] It
[1:37:01] s missing. It
[1:37:01] s been gone.
[1:37:02] It
[1:37:03] s been gone for a long time.
[1:37:05] Uh, that same thing exists when
[1:37:08] you walk across, uh. Uh, Evans,
[1:37:09] when you
[1:37:11] re on Arlington. And
[1:37:13] so we have three consecutive
[1:37:15] crosswalks, ones the brand new
[1:37:16] crosswalks is plain. We
[1:37:17] ve got
[1:37:18] the one, the next one, which is
[1:37:20] a crosswalk, fairly well
[1:37:20] painted. It
[1:37:22] s got the the
[1:37:23] horizontal lines. And then we
[1:37:24] have another one that is
[1:37:26] horizontal lines but basically
[1:37:28] not painted. And there
[1:37:28] s a
[1:37:31] question as to how do we get
[1:37:33] around to fixing these things.
[1:37:36] And you know, in this case,
[1:37:37] when I talked to Lisa Kirby,
[1:37:38] she was appreciative. The fact
[1:37:40] that I brought it up and she
[1:37:42] said it could then be by my
[1:37:43] call, be put on the list to be
[1:37:46] put hopefully higher up in the
[1:37:51] queue to be taken care of. So.
[1:37:53] Uh, so this is one of these
[1:37:56] great new benches that we have,
[1:37:58] uh, in Arlington that go from
[1:38:01] fire tower to, to Red banks.
[1:38:01] There
[1:38:03] s six of them over that
[1:38:05] 1.3 mile stretch. This is at
[1:38:07] Turtle Creek, and I want to
[1:38:10] step back a little bit. We have,
[1:38:13] um, just before that, we have
[1:38:15] a, uh, a charter school, the
[1:38:17] Walden School, which is
[1:38:20] adjacent to this daycare on
[1:38:25] Arlington. Oh, now, this slide,
[1:38:27] this. Oh, well, and what we
[1:38:28] have there is so we have a
[1:38:31] school. We have we have six
[1:38:32] benches. And then that whole
[1:38:34] stretch on either side of the
[1:38:34] road, if you
[1:38:35] re down there, you
[1:38:36] know, there are businesses. I
[1:38:39] will say that on the sidewalk
[1:38:40] that goes from.
[1:38:41] Uh.
[1:38:43] From Fire Flower to fifth
[1:38:46] Street, every street, every
[1:38:48] business, there is an
[1:38:49] appropriate cut out for
[1:38:51] wheelchairs and other wheeled
[1:38:52] ability to get down. That
[1:38:52] s
[1:38:53] pretty awesome. It
[1:38:54] s absolutely
[1:38:57] uniform. Uh, but we now have
[1:39:00] buses and we have six benches,
[1:39:02] and we have many people who
[1:39:04] reside on either side of
[1:39:06] Arlington. But the people who
[1:39:08] are on the west side of
[1:39:09] Arlington, the question is, how
[1:39:11] do they get across the street
[1:39:12] to be able to access the bus to
[1:39:14] go where? If they would like to
[1:39:17] go? And I think to me, as you
[1:39:18] know, somebody who
[1:39:18] s lived here
[1:39:19] for a long time, who
[1:39:20] s an older
[1:39:22] guy, MR. Cavallini, who
[1:39:22] s been
[1:39:23] here 41 years, I
[1:39:24] ve only been
[1:39:27] here 31 years. Uh, I think part
[1:39:29] of being on a, citizen
[1:39:31] commission is to say we
[1:39:31] re just
[1:39:33] use common sense. If we want
[1:39:36] people to ride the buses and
[1:39:36] we
[1:39:38] ve got a busy road that is
[1:39:39] extremely hard to cross. You
[1:39:41] know, we have three delineated
[1:39:43] cars that are on the roads
[1:39:45] between fire Tower and Red
[1:39:47] banks because there are so many
[1:39:49] challenges with people turning
[1:39:52] left either off Arlington, onto
[1:39:53] Arlington, and we
[1:39:54] ve had many
[1:39:57] accidents. Um, so yes, we move
[1:39:58] ahead. Those are some of the
[1:39:59] things that we would like to
[1:40:01] discuss. We would like to bring
[1:40:03] back to your attention at at
[1:40:06] future dates. So that was my
[1:40:06] extra credit.
[1:40:07] To them.
[1:40:09] All right. So anybody would
[1:40:11] know where the 200ft that we
[1:40:12] don
[1:40:13] t have a sidewalk. And MISS
[1:40:14] Kirby said they
[1:40:14] ll look into
[1:40:17] it. So one of the delineations
[1:40:19] that comes off Wimbledon, if
[1:40:20] you turn right on Wimbledon and
[1:40:22] start heading south on on
[1:40:24] Arlington at the end of the
[1:40:26] delineated, they created a
[1:40:28] u-turn area and they created
[1:40:30] the u-turn area. They cut out
[1:40:32] and took away the, uh, the
[1:40:34] sidewalk there. So that
[1:40:34] s the
[1:40:35] only spot where we don
[1:40:35] t have
[1:40:36] it. And it
[1:40:38] s and I will say in
[1:40:40] my time, the number of people
[1:40:41] who walk on the sidewalk along
[1:40:43] Arlington has increased quite
[1:40:46] dramatically over time. Uh,
[1:40:47] both for the people who live in
[1:40:47] the area. There
[1:40:48] s a lot of
[1:40:49] people pushing their kids out
[1:40:50] there. So it
[1:40:51] s become popular.
[1:40:51] And that
[1:40:52] s that
[1:40:55] s very good. So.
[1:40:57] And Mona Epps is with me today.
[1:40:57] We
[1:40:59] re the people who will carry
[1:41:00] on for the next year with some
[1:41:02] of our new members. If few
[1:41:05] people have folks who you could
[1:41:07] send our way. Uh, with cattail
[1:41:08] leaving, we really need
[1:41:09] somebody from the biking
[1:41:11] community. And we
[1:41:11] d like to
[1:41:13] have somebody who walks or runs.
[1:41:14] And, uh, I have approached
[1:41:16] three people without success so
[1:41:18] far.
[1:41:19] If I MAY, mayor.
[1:41:21] Uh, I just wanted to make a
[1:41:23] comment and ask a question as
[1:41:25] well. Um, first, my comment is
[1:41:27] that it sounds like this
[1:41:29] commission is doing exactly
[1:41:31] what it was designed to do, and
[1:41:33] that you have found areas of
[1:41:34] improvement and been able to
[1:41:36] communicate with city staff.
[1:41:38] And as you said, she
[1:41:38] s MISS
[1:41:40] Kirby is taking it. And we can
[1:41:42] now respond to the request. So
[1:41:43] I think that
[1:41:44] s a great thing.
[1:41:46] Um, I appreciate your
[1:41:48] willingness to serve. Number
[1:41:50] two, the question is, um, have
[1:41:52] you had an opportunity to talk
[1:41:55] with MISS Kirby about calming
[1:41:57] mechanisms, mechanisms within
[1:41:59] neighborhoods? Because we just
[1:42:00] had a conversation about that.
[1:42:00] And I
[1:42:01] m just curious if you MAY
[1:42:02] be able to help.
[1:42:03] Yeah, that has not been
[1:42:06] anything that we have
[1:42:08] discussed. No.
[1:42:09] Okay. I think there
[1:42:09] s
[1:42:11] opportunity there for their
[1:42:13] input. Michael, um, we talked
[1:42:15] about calming mechanisms within
[1:42:17] neighborhoods and how there are
[1:42:18] disparities in different
[1:42:19] districts that we
[1:42:20] ve seen. We
[1:42:21] just received that information
[1:42:24] in our workshop. And so as
[1:42:24] we
[1:42:25] re looking forward to just
[1:42:28] kind of see how the it wasn
[1:42:29] t a
[1:42:31] formula, it was a rubric. What
[1:42:33] was the proper term point
[1:42:36] system? There we go. Um, as we
[1:42:39] look at a point system as to
[1:42:40] how different neighborhoods in
[1:42:43] the city get calming
[1:42:44] mechanisms, we need a little
[1:42:45] help on trying to figure out
[1:42:49] how we can more evenly disperse
[1:42:51] those mechanisms. Based on the
[1:42:53] requests that we get from
[1:42:53] neighborhoods. So I think
[1:42:54] that
[1:42:55] s an opportunity where you
[1:42:56] might be able to help us.
[1:42:57] i agree with you some of the
[1:42:59] calming things that we use
[1:42:59] aren
[1:43:00] t very expensive. And
[1:43:02] sometimes you want you want a
[1:43:04] fairly inexpensive fix to a
[1:43:05] simple problem. It
[1:43:06] s common
[1:43:06] sense.
[1:43:08] While keeping people safe.
[1:43:10] So keeping people safe for
[1:43:10] sure.
[1:43:12] Awesome. If we can make sure
[1:43:13] that we make that happen.
[1:43:14] Michael, I think that would be
[1:43:18] beneficial to us.
[1:43:21] We can take care of it. So
[1:43:21] we
[1:43:22] ll ask Donna to put it on
[1:43:24] the agenda. We will, for our
[1:43:27] second, not the next meeting.
[1:43:27] Right?
[1:43:28] Yes.
[1:43:28] Ma
[1:43:29] am.
[1:43:30] She
[1:43:30] s taking care of me
[1:43:32] tonight. Thanks.
[1:43:34] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
[1:43:34] for coming out.
[1:43:35] All right. We
[1:43:36] ll move on to
[1:43:38] item number 17.
[1:43:39] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[1:43:42] 17. Construction contract award
[1:43:44] for a boardwalk to connect
[1:43:45] Wildwood Park to River Park
[1:43:46] North. I
[1:43:47] ll call it our
[1:43:49] projects manager, Mark
[1:43:50] Nottingham, with the
[1:43:56] presentation.
[1:43:57] Council.
[1:43:57] It
[1:43:59] s a good timing. Uh, since
[1:43:59] we
[1:43:59] ve.
[1:44:00] Just fallen off the multimodal
[1:44:02] commission and talk about a
[1:44:05] multimodal project here at our
[1:44:08] park. Um, just to remind
[1:44:09] everybody where this project is
[1:44:10] located, showing the Wildwood
[1:44:11] Park map that shows the network
[1:44:14] of trails there. Um, on your
[1:44:15] consent agenda was also the
[1:44:16] fishing pier that Michael
[1:44:18] mentioned. Um, you can see
[1:44:19] that, uh, location on the
[1:44:20] northern part of the lake
[1:44:21] there. So I
[1:44:22] ll provide that
[1:44:23] first, you know, uh, improved
[1:44:25] access to that side of Wildwood
[1:44:27] Park, and then you can see the
[1:44:28] location of the boardwalk
[1:44:30] project here, connecting to the
[1:44:31] easternmost portion of the
[1:44:33] existing trail at River Park,
[1:44:35] North. Uh, this is just a
[1:44:38] zoomed out, uh, map of our park
[1:44:39] and River Park. North York
[1:44:40] City
[1:44:41] s two largest parks. River
[1:44:44] Park North is over 400 acres,
[1:44:44] while it
[1:44:47] s about 365. Um, and
[1:44:49] they they touch each other. So
[1:44:50] this boardwalk will really
[1:44:51] connect those those two parks,
[1:44:53] uh, and their trail networks.
[1:44:54] River Park North has like five
[1:44:56] miles of existing trails.
[1:44:57] Wildwood has five miles of
[1:44:59] trails, in addition to six
[1:45:01] miles of mountain bike trails.
[1:45:03] Um, so this really connects,
[1:45:05] uh, quite a network of existing
[1:45:07] trails. And then, uh, you can
[1:45:09] see the proposed north south
[1:45:10] connector that, um, our
[1:45:11] engineering department
[1:45:11] s
[1:45:13] working on with ncdot that will
[1:45:14] connect Town Common in the
[1:45:16] South Tar River Greenway. Uh,
[1:45:17] two Rear Park North, which
[1:45:18] will, you know, with this
[1:45:19] project being completed,
[1:45:20] connect to Wildwood.
[1:45:23] Park.
[1:45:25] Um, so, just as a reminder, the
[1:45:28] city, uh, in FEBRUARY, uh, got
[1:45:29] notified that we did receive a
[1:45:31] great, great, great trail state
[1:45:34] grant. Um, or $500,000 to go
[1:45:36] towards this project. Uh, this
[1:45:37] project has been designed
[1:45:40] since, um, like 2022. I mean,
[1:45:40] it
[1:45:41] s been in the works for a
[1:45:42] while. We completed some of the
[1:45:44] other elements of the project,
[1:45:45] like the boardwalk on the east
[1:45:47] side of Wildwood Park. Uh, so
[1:45:51] this is, uh, 685ft, uh, to
[1:45:52] connect Wildwood to River Park,
[1:45:54] North. Um, this was, you know,
[1:45:55] recommended in the Walmart.
[1:45:57] Wildwood Park master plan. And
[1:45:57] the city
[1:45:59] s, uh, recreation park
[1:46:01] master plan as well. So, uh, we
[1:46:04] received three bids, um, for
[1:46:05] construction and td, your
[1:46:06] marine construction, uh, came
[1:46:08] in with the lowest bid. We did
[1:46:10] have to remove an overlooked
[1:46:11] portion of the project to get
[1:46:14] it closer to budget. Um, so our
[1:46:16] recommendation is to award the
[1:46:18] construction contract to tdo or
[1:46:19] marine construction in the
[1:46:24] amount of $1,505,000. We
[1:46:24] re
[1:46:25] glad to answer any questions
[1:46:25] you might have.
[1:46:29] Any questions? Anybody want to
[1:46:30] make a motion.
[1:46:32] To approve? Second.
[1:46:33] All right. Motion made by
[1:46:34] Councilmember Hardy. Second.
[1:46:35] Councilmember Robinson. Any
[1:46:37] other discussion? All those in
[1:46:39] favor say aye. Aye, aye. Those
[1:46:39] opposed say nay.
[1:46:42] Motion passes five zero.
[1:46:43] Thank you very much. Move on.
[1:46:44] Item 18.
[1:46:45] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[1:46:47] 18. Construction contract award
[1:46:49] for the site work at the North
[1:46:51] Recreational Complex. You can
[1:46:52] call forward our executive
[1:46:55] director, Don Octagon, for the
[1:46:56] presentation.
[1:46:56] Hi.
[1:46:57] Good evening again.
[1:46:58] Good evening.
[1:47:00] All right, so, um, this, uh,
[1:47:01] this is actually a two, two
[1:47:03] part item. Item 18 is for the
[1:47:04] site work for this, uh,
[1:47:05] construction project. And item
[1:47:07] 19 is the synthetic turf
[1:47:08] purchase. Uh, but first we
[1:47:08] ll
[1:47:09] talk about the, uh,
[1:47:11] construction contract, which
[1:47:12] includes all site work. This is
[1:47:15] a quick reminder of the review
[1:47:16] of ecu and city lease. Uh,
[1:47:18] timeline. Uh, so back in
[1:47:20] SEPTEMBER, uh, City council
[1:47:21] approved the proposed lease
[1:47:24] terms. SEPTEMBER 2025, uh, City
[1:47:25] Council approved the proposed
[1:47:27] lease terms with ecu to operate
[1:47:29] on the Rec. Um, city staff will
[1:47:31] be, uh, operating that complex
[1:47:33] fully in JANUARY. Uh, the
[1:47:34] transition is still going
[1:47:35] smooth with ecu, so we
[1:47:35] re
[1:47:36] looking forward to that. Uh,
[1:47:38] back in NOVEMBER, um, City
[1:47:40] Council approved the design
[1:47:41] service agreement for nrc
[1:47:42] improvements, which got us here
[1:47:44] tonight for the, uh, consider
[1:47:44] approval of the construction
[1:47:45] contract.
[1:47:45] For site.
[1:47:46] Work.
[1:47:48] Uh, this is also a reminder
[1:47:50] that the sports complex task
[1:47:52] force recommendation, uh, in
[1:47:54] JANUARY 2025, included, uh, the
[1:47:55] successful, if successful
[1:47:57] negotiation with ecu, uh, that
[1:47:58] we move forward with the
[1:48:00] design. Uh, that design, of
[1:48:01] course, is complete. So tonight
[1:48:01] we
[1:48:02] re reviewing the
[1:48:04] construction contract. So the
[1:48:05] focus area work is seen here.
[1:48:08] So this is east, uh, east north
[1:48:09] recreational complex. Uh, it
[1:48:10] s
[1:48:12] 128 acre complex located on
[1:48:14] highway 264. Has currently has
[1:48:15] eight rectangle natural grass
[1:48:17] fields with lights. Uh, to host
[1:48:19] soccer, lacrosse, tackle, flag
[1:48:20] football and other rectangle
[1:48:23] sports. Uh, the scope of work
[1:48:24] for this contract will include
[1:48:26] grading and subgrade
[1:48:28] preparation, installation of
[1:48:30] new stormwater infrastructure,
[1:48:31] uh, and drainage improvements
[1:48:32] necessary to support the
[1:48:33] reconstructed athletic fields
[1:48:36] and improve on site stormwater.
[1:48:38] Again, the focus area here is
[1:48:40] in that red is outlined there.
[1:48:41] The four fields outlined will
[1:48:42] be the ones that will be part
[1:48:46] of the construction. Uh JULY
[1:48:49] 2028 JULY 28th, 2026. The city
[1:48:50] received four bids for the
[1:48:51] construction of the site
[1:48:53] working nrc, uh, Fred Smith
[1:48:54] Company has the lowest
[1:48:55] responsive and responsible bid.
[1:48:57] Uh, one site work is complete
[1:48:58] in 2027. Charlotte Sports Turf
[1:48:59] will install the synthetic
[1:49:01] turf, which is the next item.
[1:49:02] Uh, shown here is the
[1:49:04] construction site plan, uh,
[1:49:05] shows the four fields, uh, two
[1:49:07] of the fields. We focus on
[1:49:08] soccer. Uh, and then the two
[1:49:10] other fields will be focused on
[1:49:12] lacrosse. Um, grass fields. And
[1:49:14] these fields can usually be can
[1:49:15] be used for other sports. But
[1:49:16] the main sports that the lines
[1:49:18] will hold. Uh, the permanent
[1:49:20] lines will be soccer and
[1:49:22] lacrosse. Uh, so our
[1:49:23] recommendation is to award the
[1:49:25] construction contract to Fred
[1:49:27] Smith Company in the amount of
[1:49:30] $4,032,876 and authorize the
[1:49:32] city manager and mayor to
[1:49:33] execute the acquired contract
[1:49:34] documents. I
[1:49:34] ll be glad to
[1:49:35] answer any questions.
[1:49:37] Any questions?
[1:49:38] I have a question, mayor. Um,
[1:49:40] what other sports can be can be
[1:49:41] played on those fields. You
[1:49:43] mentioned about that primarily
[1:49:44] would be soccer and lacrosse,
[1:49:45] but what other sports?
[1:49:47] Uh, flag football. Uh, ultimate
[1:49:48] frisbee. Um, there
[1:49:49] s some other
[1:49:51] sports, uh, and events that are
[1:49:53] our cvb and, uh, uh, sports
[1:49:54] commissioner trying to recruit
[1:49:55] to Greenville. Uh, so really,
[1:49:56] the if he can fit on the
[1:49:58] rectangle field, we can make it
[1:49:58] happen.
[1:49:58] We can do it.
[1:50:00] I remember, uh, Andrew Schmitt
[1:50:01] at one time saying something
[1:50:03] about the Harry Potter.
[1:50:04] Yeah, exactly.
[1:50:05] Guess that
[1:50:05] s real.
[1:50:06] Big, too.
[1:50:07] Out there, he said, that
[1:50:07] s like
[1:50:09] a big traveling thing now, too.
[1:50:10] I had no idea.
[1:50:11] Quit it. Quidditch is what it
[1:50:11] s
[1:50:13] called. Twister on.
[1:50:13] What
[1:50:15] s it called?
[1:50:18] Quidditch. Ball. Quad ball. Oh,
[1:50:19] there you go. It
[1:50:22] s like.
[1:50:24] So the size of the fields.
[1:50:24] Will be.
[1:50:26] Conducive to football games.
[1:50:27] Yes, ma
[1:50:28] am.
[1:50:28] Yeah.
[1:50:31] And rugby and rugby. Also
[1:50:32] another sport. Pretty much any
[1:50:33] man.
[1:50:33] I
[1:50:33] m sorry.
[1:50:35] And the proximity of those
[1:50:41] fields. Are there. So where
[1:50:43] would spectators be?
[1:50:45] So spectators would be, uh, see
[1:50:46] if field one. There
[1:50:46] ll be
[1:50:47] bleachers in between field one,
[1:50:49] field two, and then field two
[1:50:51] and three. Uh, most of these
[1:50:52] tournaments, they will bring,
[1:50:54] uh, spectators will bring their
[1:50:54] chairs, but we will have some
[1:50:56] bleachers out there. Uh, the
[1:50:58] same thing between 3 and 4. And
[1:51:00] then the grass fields will also
[1:51:01] have bleachers.
[1:51:01] If you
[1:51:02] re on field 2 or 3 as a
[1:51:03] spectator, you better bring a
[1:51:06] helmet.
[1:51:08] And as we bring in tournaments,
[1:51:08] we
[1:51:09] ll be able to explain and
[1:51:14] add bleachers as as needed.
[1:51:16] Good question.
[1:51:18] Any other questions? I want to
[1:51:19] make a motion.
[1:51:21] Motion to approve.
[1:51:21] Second.
[1:51:22] All right. Motion made by
[1:51:23] COUNCILMAN Robinson. Second by
[1:51:24] Council member. Hardy. Any
[1:51:26] other discussion? All those in
[1:51:28] favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?
[1:51:28] Say nay.
[1:51:31] Motion passes five zero.
[1:51:33] Then. Item number 19. Purchase
[1:51:35] of Shore Sports Turf for the
[1:51:36] North Recreational Complex was
[1:51:38] the second part of this agenda.
[1:51:39] Again, I
[1:51:39] ll turn it over to Don
[1:51:40] Ogden.
[1:51:41] All right. So scene here is
[1:51:44] the, uh. Again, same outline,
[1:51:45] that we, uh, same layout we
[1:51:46] showed before. Uh, the city has
[1:51:48] selected Shaw Sports Turf to
[1:51:49] supply the synthetic turf, uh,
[1:51:51] and infield material. Uh, due
[1:51:52] to their product and
[1:51:53] performance achieved with their
[1:51:54] game on technology. And I
[1:51:54] ll
[1:51:56] talk a little bit about the the
[1:51:58] benefits, um, in this lap, but
[1:51:59] also other slides coming up.
[1:52:01] Uh, a couple of the benefits
[1:52:01] include warranty and
[1:52:02] maintenance. The fields we have
[1:52:03] will have an eight year
[1:52:05] warranty and maintenance, uh,
[1:52:07] reduces seam tape. So the the
[1:52:09] turf that we have, we have seen
[1:52:10] tape, um, installed at the
[1:52:12] factory. So they went out with
[1:52:13] a saw that when it comes in,
[1:52:14] that means the the seam table
[1:52:16] last longer, uh, which will
[1:52:17] help with long term maintenance
[1:52:18] and requirements. Uh, which
[1:52:19] reduces cost. Uh, game on
[1:52:20] minimum turf is cradle to
[1:52:22] cradle certified, which, uh,
[1:52:22] we
[1:52:23] ll talk about in the next
[1:52:24] slide. And then another
[1:52:25] important component is the turf
[1:52:27] includes Geo field topper
[1:52:28] infield product, uh, which will
[1:52:29] significantly reduce the
[1:52:30] temperature of plant service.
[1:52:32] So a lot of synthetic fields,
[1:52:32] uh, that don
[1:52:33] t include this,
[1:52:35] uh, could be hotter because of
[1:52:37] the sun. Uh, this infield that
[1:52:38] is included in this purchase,
[1:52:40] uh, will help reduce the
[1:52:40] temperature. And that way, it
[1:52:41] will be the same as a normal
[1:52:43] grass field. Uh, so no change
[1:52:45] there, which ensures we have a
[1:52:46] safe playing surface. Uh, so,
[1:52:49] overview of synthetic turf
[1:52:51] benefits. Um, several items are
[1:52:51] here. Uh, it
[1:52:52] s cheaper to
[1:52:53] maintain annually compared to
[1:52:55] grass fields. Uh, stable
[1:52:57] playing surface for athletes.
[1:52:59] Uh, play can resume quicker in
[1:53:00] the event of inclement weather.
[1:53:02] So in a downpour, uh, it takes
[1:53:04] less time for these, uh, for a
[1:53:05] turf synthetic turf field to
[1:53:07] drain, uh, which means we have
[1:53:08] unlimited playing hours, which
[1:53:09] is very important. We
[1:53:09] re trying
[1:53:10] to recruit the type of
[1:53:11] tournaments that we offer North
[1:53:13] Rec, but also the minimal
[1:53:14] preparation, uh, which helps
[1:53:15] tournament play and also
[1:53:17] decreases staffing needs. So
[1:53:18] play can continue quicker. But
[1:53:18] also, we don
[1:53:19] t have to have
[1:53:20] staff out there to prepare the
[1:53:22] field. The games can keep going
[1:53:25] on. Also want to talk about the
[1:53:28] Cradle cradle certified? Uh, so
[1:53:29] trusted third party
[1:53:30] verification that ensures
[1:53:31] products are safe for both
[1:53:33] people and the planet. Uh, a
[1:53:34] couple of those areas. Uh, the
[1:53:36] certification covers, uh,
[1:53:37] including material health,
[1:53:38] ensuring the materials are safe
[1:53:40] for humans and the environment,
[1:53:42] and also clean air and climate
[1:53:43] protection, generating clean
[1:53:45] energy and protecting the
[1:53:46] environment. Um, not every
[1:53:48] company offers this type of
[1:53:49] certification, and we feel it
[1:53:49] s
[1:53:51] very important, uh, for this
[1:53:52] project. And so our
[1:53:54] recommendation is to approve
[1:53:55] the purchase of gaming minimum
[1:53:56] 2.25 synthetic turf and geo
[1:53:58] fuel infield from Shell Sports
[1:53:59] Turf and authorize the city
[1:54:01] manager and or mayor to execute
[1:54:03] any required documents. And
[1:54:03] I
[1:54:04] ll be glad to answer any.
[1:54:05] Questions.
[1:54:07] Any questions?
[1:54:08] My question goes back to the
[1:54:09] previous vote.
[1:54:10] Yes, ma
[1:54:10] am.
[1:54:11] So we
[1:54:12] ve talked about the
[1:54:14] possibility of putting tracks
[1:54:16] around the rectangular fields,
[1:54:16] but they
[1:54:17] re in such close
[1:54:18] proximity, I don
[1:54:18] t see where
[1:54:20] that would ever be an option.
[1:54:24] So for nrc, um, they felt agree
[1:54:24] with me. I
[1:54:25] ll go back to one of
[1:54:26] the other maps. That
[1:54:27] s okay.
[1:54:28] Um, for nrc, we would have to
[1:54:31] look at the entire complex to,
[1:54:31] to, to kind of take us. If you
[1:54:33] look at the north west portion
[1:54:35] of that complex, there is
[1:54:36] opportunity for other
[1:54:37] development there. Uh, for
[1:54:39] either more rectangle fields.
[1:54:40] Uh, but also it could be a
[1:54:41] potential to have a track right
[1:54:43] there potentially, or some type
[1:54:45] of, of, uh, running amenity.
[1:54:46] Um, so we have to look at the
[1:54:47] whole entire complex. Not not
[1:54:49] really the, the certain, but
[1:54:49] that
[1:54:50] s we can certainly, uh,
[1:54:52] take a look at that. Yes, ma
[1:54:54] am.
[1:54:54] Let
[1:54:54] s do a.
[1:54:57] Question.
[1:55:00] Of course. My questions are
[1:55:02] related to diversifying the.
[1:55:03] Possibilities. Yes, ma
[1:55:03] am. Yes,
[1:55:04] ma
[1:55:04] am.
[1:55:09] All right. Any other questions?
[1:55:10] Anybody to entertain a motion.
[1:55:12] Motion to approve.
[1:55:13] Second.
[1:55:14] All right. All right. We
[1:55:14] re
[1:55:16] mixing it up. I like that. Must
[1:55:17] have been made by Councilor
[1:55:17] Robinson, second by
[1:55:19] Councilmember Willis. All those
[1:55:19] in favor say aye.
[1:55:20] Aye.
[1:55:20] Opposed?
[1:55:23] Say nay. Motion passes five
[1:55:23] zero.
[1:55:25] All right. Number 20.
[1:55:26] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[1:55:28] 20, first amendment to enter
[1:55:29] local agreement with Pitt
[1:55:31] County for sale of property
[1:55:33] located at 2815 East 10th
[1:55:37] Street. Parcel number 29072.
[1:55:39] And zero East fifth Street.
[1:55:41] Parcel number 283 ten. I
[1:55:42] ll now
[1:55:43] call for the Assistant City
[1:55:45] attorney, Scott Dixon, for the
[1:55:46] presentation.
[1:55:47] MR. Mayor, members of the
[1:55:49] council. Um, this should be
[1:55:50] about your shortest item
[1:55:50] tonight, but it
[1:55:51] s important and
[1:55:52] related to the item that comes
[1:55:53] right after this. The Don will
[1:55:54] be presenting about the
[1:55:56] proposed exchange. So tonight
[1:55:57] before you, you guys previously
[1:55:58] entered into an intellectual
[1:55:59] agreement with Pitt County in
[1:56:02] SEPTEMBER 20th, 2024, for the
[1:56:03] sale of property located at
[1:56:05] 2815 East 10th Street and zero
[1:56:06] East fifth Street. The
[1:56:07] substantive components of the
[1:56:08] previous agreement, provided
[1:56:10] the city would facilitate the
[1:56:11] sale of the property,
[1:56:12] administer administration
[1:56:13] services, and, upon
[1:56:14] finalization of the sale of
[1:56:15] property, provide accounting
[1:56:16] and disburse the proceeds as
[1:56:17] determined by the ownership
[1:56:20] interest. Parties now desire to
[1:56:21] amend that previously under
[1:56:22] interlocal agreement, so that
[1:56:23] in lieu of a sale to a third
[1:56:25] party only, the city MAY also
[1:56:26] exchange the property together
[1:56:28] with monetary compensation.
[1:56:29] Upon completion of any
[1:56:30] exchange, the county shall be
[1:56:31] either reimbursed in an amount
[1:56:32] proportional to its percentage
[1:56:34] interest in the property or the
[1:56:35] county. Interest shall be
[1:56:36] treated as a contribution
[1:56:37] towards the development of a
[1:56:38] planned sports complex. City
[1:56:39] will continue to provide
[1:56:41] administration and oversight.
[1:56:43] Um. It should appear a mere
[1:56:44] agreement should appear on the
[1:56:46] commissioners meeting. And from
[1:56:47] conversations with Matt and
[1:56:48] Janice, all of them seem to
[1:56:48] think it
[1:56:48] s going to be a
[1:56:50] donation. So we should get that
[1:56:51] answer later. We can update you
[1:56:53] guys, but all indications have
[1:56:53] been they
[1:56:54] re going to donate it
[1:56:55] for the possibility of a sports
[1:56:56] complex. They
[1:56:57] ve both been
[1:56:57] great. Don
[1:56:58] s been working a lot
[1:57:00] on this. So basically in order
[1:57:01] for you guys to enter into the
[1:57:03] proposed exchange or provide
[1:57:05] authorization, we gotta amend
[1:57:06] this to just allow that
[1:57:08] opportunity. So in 2024, you
[1:57:10] guys, when you, um, entered
[1:57:11] into the initial agreement, it
[1:57:12] was going to be sale to a
[1:57:13] private party through an upset
[1:57:15] bid process. That deal didn
[1:57:15] t
[1:57:15] really work out. I don
[1:57:16] t think
[1:57:17] the parties found interest in
[1:57:18] how that was going to be worked
[1:57:20] out. So this just changes one
[1:57:22] thing, essentially allowing us
[1:57:24] to do an exchange. And it also
[1:57:25] allows us for the county to
[1:57:26] treat their interest as a
[1:57:27] contribution. So I
[1:57:27] m happy to
[1:57:28] answer any questions.
[1:57:30] All right. Any questions for
[1:57:34] MISTER Dixon? You weren
[1:57:34] t
[1:57:35] lying. This could be the
[1:57:36] shortest one.
[1:57:37] I tried my best. I know you all
[1:57:39] had a long one.
[1:57:40] All right. Anybody want to
[1:57:41] entertain a.
[1:57:44] Motion? Motion? Second.
[1:57:45] All right. Motion made by
[1:57:46] Councilmember Robinson. Second
[1:57:47] by Councilmember Willis. All
[1:57:48] those in favor say aye.
[1:57:49] Aye.
[1:57:49] Opposed?
[1:57:52] Any motion passes five zero.
[1:57:52] Let
[1:57:55] s move on to item number
[1:57:55] 21.
[1:57:57] So item number 21, resolution
[1:57:59] approving the exchange of
[1:58:01] property with j. B holding,
[1:58:02] llc. Call for Executive
[1:58:04] Director Don Octagon for the
[1:58:05] presentation.
[1:58:06] All right. Good evening again.
[1:58:07] Good evening.
[1:58:10] All right. So, um, to Scott
[1:58:10] s
[1:58:11] point, uh, this is part of his
[1:58:12] item two. As far.
[1:58:13] As the there
[1:58:13] s going to be. Are
[1:58:14] you gonna try to beat him.
[1:58:16] For sure. He wins here. Come
[1:58:18] on, try do it.
[1:58:21] Um, however, I
[1:58:21] ll try to get
[1:58:23] this as efficiently as I can.
[1:58:24] Um, so this is over. Overview
[1:58:25] of the proposed property
[1:58:29] exchange. Uh, property to be is
[1:58:31] 4055 us 64 Highway East, which
[1:58:33] is adjacent to ecu North
[1:58:36] complex. Uh, in exchange for
[1:58:37] two a one five 10th Street, the
[1:58:39] old highway patrol building and
[1:58:41] cash. So over the next couple
[1:58:42] slides, I
[1:58:42] ll go in detail about
[1:58:44] the properties, um, and the and
[1:58:46] the exchange. Uh, first of all,
[1:58:46] we
[1:58:47] ll cover the old State
[1:58:48] Highway Patrol building, which
[1:58:49] again is located on 10th Street
[1:58:50] there at the corner of fifth
[1:58:51] Street and 10th Street. It
[1:58:51] s
[1:58:56] approximately two acres. Uh, in
[1:58:58] SEPTEMBER of 2025, the city
[1:59:01] received a, uh, appraisal, uh,
[1:59:02] stating the market value,
[1:59:03] current market value for this
[1:59:05] property was 909,000, which is
[1:59:07] the value that we used as part
[1:59:08] of this presentation. In
[1:59:11] exchange, other property, uh,
[1:59:13] as the adjacent to is is
[1:59:14] adjacent to Rec North
[1:59:17] Recreational Complex. So parcel
[1:59:20] 23342, uh, approximately 160
[1:59:22] acres available for economic
[1:59:25] development. Uh, in JANUARY,
[1:59:27] when the sports complex uh Task
[1:59:29] force first um recommended this
[1:59:31] property, the asking price was
[1:59:32] about 5.5 million, which
[1:59:33] oversees our exceeded our
[1:59:35] budget at the time. Uh, since
[1:59:36] then, the current asset price
[1:59:38] has come down to 3.2 million
[1:59:39] for this property. A little bit
[1:59:41] more about this property. Um,
[1:59:45] and excuse me, an appraisal
[1:59:48] received, uh, in MARCH of 2026
[1:59:49] that stated the current market
[1:59:51] value for the property was
[1:59:53] 3,318,000, which is about
[1:59:57] 21,000 per acre. Um, important
[1:59:58] to note that a potentially
[2:00:00] acquiring acquiring this
[2:00:01] parcel, uh, would give the city
[2:00:02] ownership of all the property
[2:00:04] outlined in red. So of course,
[2:00:05] we take over management of
[2:00:06] Acres North Recreation Complex,
[2:00:10] which is, uh, parcel 58471. And
[2:00:11] then, of course, we have this
[2:00:11] parcel we
[2:00:12] re talking about now.
[2:00:14] And then in JANUARY, uh, the
[2:00:16] city acquired parcels two, two,
[2:00:19] five, zero five and 2123 south
[2:00:20] of 264. That
[2:00:21] s, uh, also
[2:00:22] outlined in red. And also the
[2:00:24] city already owns and operates
[2:00:25] uh, Bradford Creek Soccer
[2:00:27] Complex, which is uh, parcel
[2:00:31] 59120. So this would have in
[2:00:32] control of all these properties
[2:00:32] or ownership. All these
[2:00:34] properties would, um, give the
[2:00:35] city significant control of
[2:00:36] what is development around the
[2:00:38] sports complex, uh, sports,
[2:00:39] commercial, retail,
[2:00:42] hospitality, uh, and housing,
[2:00:44] uh, supporting the note that we
[2:00:46] started due diligence process,
[2:00:47] uh, on this property. Uh, the
[2:00:50] due diligence ends AUGUST 31st,
[2:00:52] 2026. Uh, so far, the report
[2:00:53] returned, uh, no issues with
[2:00:55] the property. Uh, and it
[2:00:55] s
[2:00:56] suitable for constructing
[2:00:58] constructing a future sports
[2:01:01] complex. So this is a little
[2:01:03] outline or overview of the
[2:01:04] property exchange in more
[2:01:05] detail. So the first step would
[2:01:07] be a private party purchase.
[2:01:10] The property located adjacent
[2:01:12] to Northgate. Uh jv Holdings
[2:01:13] llc has offered to purchase the
[2:01:15] property. Uh, second step would
[2:01:16] be the city entered into an
[2:01:18] agreement to exchange, uh, the
[2:01:20] 10th Street property, plus cash
[2:01:22] for the property, uh, now owned
[2:01:23] by ghb Holdings, uh, which will
[2:01:24] be, of course, the property
[2:01:26] adjacent to East North
[2:01:27] Recreation Complex. And third
[2:01:30] step will be ghb Holdings. Uh,
[2:01:31] receives old state highway
[2:01:36] patrol property and $2,341,000
[2:01:38] cash from the city. Then the
[2:01:39] city within acquire property
[2:01:40] adjacent to the North.
[2:01:41] Rock.
[2:01:41] Location.
[2:01:42] 264 East.
[2:01:44] Uh. Summary of total cash
[2:01:46] payout. Uh, the city acquires
[2:01:47] the parcel. Uh, so there is no
[2:01:48] exchange? Uh, it
[2:01:50] ll be $3.2
[2:01:51] million. This is the selling
[2:01:53] price. Um, if the exchange for
[2:01:55] East 10th Street property plus
[2:01:57] cash is approved, uh, the value
[2:02:03] will be 2,395,538. Uh, cash
[2:02:05] savings of five 854,000 for the
[2:02:07] city. Uh, funding details. Uh,
[2:02:09] total cash payout will be
[2:02:12] 2,395,000. Uh, funding source
[2:02:13] is hotel tax capital fund. And
[2:02:13] there
[2:02:15] s no sufficient capacity
[2:02:16] in the fund to acquire property
[2:02:18] through combination of private
[2:02:21] exchange, cash and financing.
[2:02:23] And recommendation city Council
[2:02:24] adopt the resolution
[2:02:25] authorizing the exchange of
[2:02:27] property with ghb Holdings, llc
[2:02:29] and the city Manager Mayor to
[2:02:30] execute any documentation
[2:02:32] needed to effectuate the
[2:02:33] transaction. And I
[2:02:34] ll be glad
[2:02:34] to answer any.
[2:02:36] Questions.
[2:02:43] Any questions. Anybody wanna
[2:02:44] make a motion?
[2:02:45] So.
[2:02:45] Second.
[2:02:46] All right. Motion made by
[2:02:47] Councilmember Hardy, saved by
[2:02:48] COUNCILMAN Robinson. Any other
[2:02:52] discussion? All those in favor
[2:02:53] say aye.
[2:02:53] Aye, aye.
[2:02:54] Those opposed say nay.
[2:02:56] Motion passes five zero.
[2:02:57] All right. We
[2:02:58] ll move on to
[2:02:59] item number 22.
[2:03:01] Item number 22. Contract award
[2:03:02] for the update and
[2:03:03] implementation of the
[2:03:05] comprehensive plan. I call for
[2:03:06] Assistant Director Shanti Guppy
[2:03:10] for the presentation.
[2:03:11] Are you going to compete for
[2:03:13] the shortest presentation?
[2:03:13] I
[2:03:16] m going to try. So this is
[2:03:18] fairly straightforward. Um,
[2:03:20] this is to update and implement
[2:03:22] a comprehensive plan. Last
[2:03:24] year, the city issued a request
[2:03:26] for proposals or an rfp for
[2:03:29] this project. Uh, Bolton Mink
[2:03:31] was selected out of ten firms.
[2:03:32] We do have a member of their
[2:03:36] staff here tonight. In 2016,
[2:03:37] the city adopted Horizon
[2:03:38] s
[2:03:40] 2026. You hear me say all that?
[2:03:42] As the name implies, there was
[2:03:44] a ten year gap, which means we
[2:03:45] are at that point where we need
[2:03:48] to update. Um, maybe almost
[2:03:49] completely rewrite and adopt a
[2:03:52] new comp plan. So the main
[2:03:54] goals and objectives for this
[2:03:56] project obviously is to do
[2:03:57] goals, objectives,
[2:03:59] implementation strategies. This
[2:04:01] is based on technical review as
[2:04:04] well as public input. Um, some
[2:04:05] of the main items would be
[2:04:08] housing, land use, economic
[2:04:11] development, mobility and city
[2:04:13] facilities. It would also have
[2:04:15] alignment with the goals and
[2:04:17] objectives in our Udo alignment
[2:04:20] with um, North Carolina General
[2:04:22] Statutes, as well as well as
[2:04:24] other applicable laws and then
[2:04:27] robust and intentional public
[2:04:29] participation. Uh, there would
[2:04:32] be a task force that would be
[2:04:33] established. This board would
[2:04:37] have a device, of a group of
[2:04:39] citizens, stakeholders and
[2:04:42] representatives from the boards
[2:04:43] and commissions of the city, as
[2:04:45] well as city council members
[2:04:46] and any others that MAY be
[2:04:47] needed. There will be a
[2:04:49] significant amount of public
[2:04:51] engagement with multiple
[2:04:54] in-person virtual meetings and
[2:04:56] task force meetings, and then
[2:04:57] there will be a centralized
[2:04:59] project website, much like we
[2:05:00] have with the Udo, which is if
[2:05:01] you don
[2:05:02] t go to any of the
[2:05:03] meetings, you can still go
[2:05:04] online to find out what
[2:05:05] s going
[2:05:08] on and also give input. There
[2:05:10] will be three open houses with
[2:05:13] three themes, and each of those
[2:05:14] open houses will be held at
[2:05:16] four different locations in the
[2:05:17] city. So essentially 12
[2:05:20] different open houses. Um, the
[2:05:21] first cluster will be
[2:05:23] Greenville today. The second
[2:05:25] will be where do we want to go?
[2:05:27] And the last one will be how
[2:05:28] will we get there? Um, they
[2:05:28] ll
[2:05:30] also be a virtual open house
[2:05:32] For each of these, and there
[2:05:32] ll
[2:05:35] be a presentation for those
[2:05:36] that if you haven
[2:05:37] t been to any
[2:05:38] of the meetings, you can watch
[2:05:40] the presentation and it will
[2:05:42] bring you up to the current
[2:05:45] information. Um, for the
[2:05:46] adoption, there
[2:05:46] ll be a
[2:05:48] presentation of the
[2:05:49] comprehensive plan at the
[2:05:51] Planning and Zoning Commission.
[2:05:51] They
[2:05:52] ll make a recommendation
[2:05:54] to council, and then it will
[2:05:56] come to council for final
[2:05:57] adoption. As always, these are
[2:06:00] public hearings. This project
[2:06:01] is expected to last
[2:06:03] approximately 18 to 24 months.
[2:06:06] And with that, staff is asking
[2:06:07] you to approve the contract.
[2:06:07] And I
[2:06:08] ll be happy to answer any
[2:06:09] questions.
[2:06:11] All right. Any questions from
[2:06:16] Scooby?
[2:06:18] Thank you.
[2:06:19] Anyone would like to entertain
[2:06:22] a motion.
[2:06:22] Second.
[2:06:24] All right. Motion been made by
[2:06:25] Councilmember Harris. Second by
[2:06:26] Councilmember Willis. All those
[2:06:27] in favor say aye.
[2:06:28] Aye, aye.
[2:06:30] Those opposed say nay.
[2:06:32] Motion passes five zero.
[2:06:34] Hey, you. Hey, you were quick.
[2:06:37] You were there. That was.
[2:06:37] All right, let
[2:06:39] s move on to
[2:06:41] item number 23.
[2:06:42] All right. Number 23, selection
[2:06:44] of developers and allocation of
[2:06:45] city owned lots for the 50 and
[2:06:47] ten affordable housing
[2:06:48] initiative. I call forward our
[2:06:49] program coordinator, Tony
[2:06:52] Parker, for the presentation.
[2:06:54] Good evening, MR. Mayor. And
[2:06:55] city council.
[2:06:56] Good evening Tony.
[2:06:57] This is a selection of
[2:06:59] developers and allocation of
[2:07:01] city owned plots for a 1510
[2:07:04] program. We the purpose is to
[2:07:07] continue the implementation of
[2:07:08] the 50 and ten affordable
[2:07:10] housing initiative to allocate
[2:07:11] nine city owned lots for
[2:07:13] affordable construction and to
[2:07:15] select qualified development
[2:07:17] partners. Excuse me. Um, this
[2:07:19] is kind of a timeline here. Rfp
[2:07:23] was issued in APRIL 2026. MAY
[2:07:25] 2026. Proposals were due. We
[2:07:26] received three proposals, uh,
[2:07:28] MAY through JUNE 2026. Staff
[2:07:30] evaluation. We evaluated the
[2:07:32] qualifications, experience,
[2:07:34] capacity, design, approach,
[2:07:35] schedule and affordability
[2:07:38] requirements. AUGUST 10th. Um,
[2:07:39] tonight we
[2:07:39] re asking for your
[2:07:40] consideration and staff
[2:07:42] recommendation. Um, this is
[2:07:42] what we
[2:07:45] re recommending for the
[2:07:46] three construction. The three
[2:07:49] developers. We at that, we
[2:07:51] chose all Joy studio, Bernie
[2:07:52] and Bernie construction.
[2:07:54] Strictly business. Uh,
[2:07:56] builders. Um, each will have
[2:07:58] three plots to build on our map
[2:07:59] right here shows where these
[2:08:02] locations are read. Is all joy
[2:08:03] studio, Bernie and Bernie.
[2:08:05] Construction is in the blue and
[2:08:07] strictly business is in the
[2:08:09] gold or yellow. Um, we really
[2:08:09] picked these to be
[2:08:11] strategically located through
[2:08:13] West Greenville. Um, the
[2:08:15] community benefits are working
[2:08:17] on nine new affordable
[2:08:19] homeownership opportunities.
[2:08:19] Um, we
[2:08:20] re going to return some
[2:08:22] of this vacant property to, uh,
[2:08:24] productive use. It supports our
[2:08:25] neighborhood revitalization of
[2:08:27] West Greenville and also
[2:08:27] supports our city
[2:08:28] s affordable
[2:08:30] housing goals and employ small
[2:08:32] businesses, local small
[2:08:34] businesses. So development
[2:08:35] process is the follows. Um,
[2:08:38] city conveys the approved lots
[2:08:39] to selected developers. The
[2:08:41] developers received no notice
[2:08:42] to proceed and they had 12
[2:08:44] months to complete the
[2:08:46] construction. The developers
[2:08:47] are responsible for the
[2:08:48] financing, constructing,
[2:08:49] marketing, and selling of the
[2:08:51] homes. Um, each developer
[2:08:52] market the homes through their
[2:08:54] own real estate, professional,
[2:08:55] and all homes will be subject
[2:08:55] to the city
[2:08:56] s long term
[2:08:58] affordable affordability
[2:09:00] requirement. Staff
[2:09:02] recommendation is to approve
[2:09:03] the selection of all Joy,
[2:09:05] Bernie and Bernie and strictly
[2:09:07] business builders and, um,
[2:09:08] authorized city manager
[2:09:09] negotiate and execute the
[2:09:11] necessary paperwork. I
[2:09:11] d be
[2:09:13] glad to answer any questions.
[2:09:14] All right. Any questions for
[2:09:18] MR. Parker? I
[2:09:19] m sorry if I
[2:09:20] missed this, but is there,
[2:09:22] like, a target square footage
[2:09:24] for the houses, or is that
[2:09:26] just. Is that coming later?
[2:09:26] That
[2:09:27] s coming later.
[2:09:31] Okay. All right. Any other
[2:09:33] questions? Anybody entertain a
[2:09:33] motion?
[2:09:34] Motion. To second.
[2:09:36] Hey, I was just getting ready
[2:09:37] to say I needed two people to
[2:09:39] get involved, make some motion.
[2:09:41] So I appreciate that motion
[2:09:43] made by Councilmember Jones,
[2:09:45] second by Mayor Pro Tem Forman.
[2:09:47] And the discussion.
[2:09:49] I just want to say that, um, I
[2:09:50] know this has been a little bit
[2:09:52] of a process, but I really
[2:09:53] appreciate it.
[2:09:53] It
[2:09:54] s been it
[2:09:54] s been a
[2:09:56] gratifying process.
[2:09:57] Thank you.
[2:09:58] All right. Any other
[2:10:00] discussion? All those in favor
[2:10:02] say aye. Aye. Those opposed say
[2:10:02] nay.
[2:10:04] Motion passes five zero.
[2:10:04] All right, let
[2:10:05] s move. Tony.
[2:10:07] Yes. Thank you. Tony. Um, we
[2:10:07] ll
[2:10:09] move on to 24.
[2:10:10] All right. Item number 24,
[2:10:11] memorandum of understanding
[2:10:13] with the North Carolina Housing
[2:10:14] Finance Agency and Pitt
[2:10:15] Community College for the
[2:10:16] Revive and restore a pilot
[2:10:18] program. Again, I have a
[2:10:19] project coordinator, Tony
[2:10:21] Parker, to, um, with
[2:10:22] presentation.
[2:10:22] So we
[2:10:24] re really excited about
[2:10:25] this partnership. This is going
[2:10:27] to be a great partnership, not
[2:10:28] only for the city, but probably
[2:10:29] for the state eventually. Um,
[2:10:31] this is a memorandum of
[2:10:32] understanding with the North
[2:10:33] Carolina Housing Finance Agency
[2:10:35] and Pitt Community College for
[2:10:36] the Revive and Restore pilot
[2:10:39] program. What is Revive and
[2:10:41] restore? This is a proposed
[2:10:42] partnership between the city,
[2:10:45] pcc and the Finance Agency.
[2:10:47] Will be revitalizing distressed
[2:10:48] areas with a two pronged
[2:10:50] approach. One is acquisition
[2:10:52] and rehabilitation. The other
[2:10:53] is external enhancement for
[2:10:55] owner occupied housing. Um,
[2:10:56] this is a scaled effort to
[2:10:58] enhance our workforce
[2:11:00] development. This really aligns
[2:11:01] with our 15 and ten affordable
[2:11:02] housing initiative. It
[2:11:03] s funded
[2:11:05] by the financing agency with a
[2:11:08] $200,000 grant. So Greenville
[2:11:08] is on the move. We
[2:11:09] ve done good
[2:11:11] things. 50 and ten. Affordable
[2:11:12] housing initiative has been
[2:11:15] very successful. As Council
[2:11:16] Member Forman says, it
[2:11:16] s been a
[2:11:17] process, but it
[2:11:17] s been a
[2:11:19] gratifying process. Um, Lincoln
[2:11:21] Park has been done. We
[2:11:21] ve built
[2:11:23] several houses over there. Um,
[2:11:25] pcc house Relocation
[2:11:26] Partnership. It took a lot of
[2:11:29] work to move this house. Um,
[2:11:30] existing city rehab programs,
[2:11:32] um, very much involved in that.
[2:11:34] And, um, the ongoing code
[2:11:35] enforcement efforts are
[2:11:37] happening. We have affordable
[2:11:38] housing investments across West
[2:11:40] Greenville. And the key point,
[2:11:42] the key reality is we have all
[2:11:44] the apparatus ready to go on
[2:11:48] this. And the next one is a
[2:11:49] little.
[2:12:05] Success story.
[2:12:06] We just want to show you that
[2:12:07] we
[2:12:07] re.
[2:12:08] Moving towards.
[2:12:09] Um, it seems like it
[2:12:10] s been a
[2:12:11] long time coming, but it really
[2:12:11] is. It
[2:12:13] s been a great process.
[2:12:14] So what is the collaborative
[2:12:14] structure? We
[2:12:15] re going to have
[2:12:16] city Greenville. We
[2:12:16] ll do the
[2:12:18] property identification and
[2:12:20] acquisition, project management
[2:12:22] assistance. Community College
[2:12:23] will do the city engagement and
[2:12:25] continuing continuing education
[2:12:27] programming. The finance agency
[2:12:29] will pilot funding, will pilot
[2:12:31] the fund, will fund the pilot
[2:12:33] for us and the strategic
[2:12:36] guidance. Um, this is our
[2:12:39] proposed timeline this year. In
[2:12:40] JUNE of JULY, we did the
[2:12:41] planning and funding approvals.
[2:12:43] Then in AUGUST, SEPTEMBER,
[2:12:43] we
[2:12:44] re going to do the launch of
[2:12:46] the pilot program. Pcc student
[2:12:47] engagement begins and
[2:12:49] rehabilitation work will be
[2:12:51] initiated this coming fall
[2:12:52] through spring. We
[2:12:52] re going to
[2:12:53] see ongoing rehabilitation
[2:12:55] activity, exterior neighborhood
[2:12:57] improvements, and the workforce
[2:12:59] training implementation. This
[2:13:00] spring, we should see initial
[2:13:02] pilot completion. There will be
[2:13:03] a before and after evaluation
[2:13:05] of this and scalability
[2:13:07] assessment and year two
[2:13:11] expansion of the model. Staff
[2:13:13] recommends that City Council
[2:13:14] approved the memorandum with
[2:13:15] the North Carolina Housing
[2:13:17] Finance Agency for reviving the
[2:13:18] restored pilot program and
[2:13:20] authorize the City Manager, or
[2:13:22] his designee to execute the Mou
[2:13:23] and any related agreements. Et
[2:13:25] cetera. One thing I do would
[2:13:26] like to say also, is that this
[2:13:27] is looked at as possibly a
[2:13:29] pilot for the state. Um, it
[2:13:30] s a
[2:13:32] good program, good partnership.
[2:13:32] And I
[2:13:35] ll take any questions..
[2:13:37] No questions. But I will say
[2:13:40] this the 15 and ten and the
[2:13:41] rehabilitation projects, it is
[2:13:43] truly transformative for our
[2:13:44] city. But I
[2:13:46] m absolutely, 100%
[2:13:46] sure it
[2:13:47] s going to be copied by
[2:13:49] others in our state and maybe
[2:13:51] probably even outside. So thank
[2:13:52] for all the partnership and
[2:13:54] particularly those at pcc and
[2:13:56] the person who started us off
[2:13:57] with a vision about doing this
[2:13:58] and everybody
[2:13:58] s coming
[2:13:59] together. This is an amazing
[2:14:01] project. And Tony, I appreciate
[2:14:02] your help and everybody that
[2:14:03] works with you to make all this
[2:14:03] happen.
[2:14:04] Well, we appreciate your
[2:14:05] support. Also. It
[2:14:06] s been
[2:14:09] partnership with us all.
[2:14:10] All right.
[2:14:12] Move to approve second.
[2:14:13] All right.
[2:14:13] All right.
[2:14:15] Thank you. All right. Motion
[2:14:17] down there. I know.
[2:14:18] I like it. All right. Most of
[2:14:20] them are made by Mayor Pro Tem
[2:14:22] Forman. Second by Councilmember
[2:14:27] Jones. Any other discussion?
[2:14:28] All those in favor say aye.
[2:14:29] Aye.
[2:14:30] Those opposed say nay.
[2:14:32] Motion passes five zero.
[2:14:33] Thank you very much. We
[2:14:33] ll now
[2:14:35] move on to item number 25.
[2:14:37] Item number 25, budget
[2:14:38] ordinance number one, on many
[2:14:41] of the 20, 2627 General Fund
[2:14:44] Ordinance. Number 26035
[2:14:45] Inspections Fund ordinance
[2:14:48] number 26035, capital Project
[2:14:49] Management Fund. Ordinance
[2:14:52] Number 240410. Engineering
[2:14:54] Capital Project Fund. Ordinance
[2:14:56] Number 22019. Street
[2:14:57] Improvement Bond Fund.
[2:15:00] Ordinance Number 17024.
[2:15:01] Greenways Capital Project Fund,
[2:15:04] or number 122007. And Special
[2:15:06] Revenue Grants Fund Ordinance
[2:15:09] Number 11003. And now ask our
[2:15:11] Chief Financial Officer, Jacob
[2:15:12] Joyner, to provide the
[2:15:13] presentation.
[2:15:14] All right. Good evening.
[2:15:16] Council members. MR. Mayor,
[2:15:17] good evening. Uh, we got budget
[2:15:19] amendment number one for fiscal
[2:15:22] year 27. Uh, will be impacting
[2:15:23] the general fund inspection
[2:15:25] fund, capital project fund,
[2:15:27] greenways engineering capital
[2:15:27] project fund, street
[2:15:29] improvement bond fund, and
[2:15:30] special revenue grant fund. We
[2:15:32] have item a which is
[2:15:33] appropriate fund balance for
[2:15:35] the comprehensive land use plan
[2:15:36] that will increase the general
[2:15:39] fund $400,000. Item b
[2:15:41] recognizes expenditures and
[2:15:42] revenues for code enforcement
[2:15:43] arising from city
[2:15:45] revitalization, reorganization.
[2:15:46] Uh, that
[2:15:46] s going to increase
[2:15:47] the inspections fund by
[2:15:50] $800,000. Uh, item c will be
[2:15:51] closing the Greenways Project
[2:15:52] Fund. Uh, that
[2:15:52] s one that
[2:15:52] s
[2:15:55] been around since about 2015, i
[2:15:56] believe. Um, and using the
[2:15:58] remaining balances to, uh, fund
[2:16:01] the Wildwood Boardwalk project,
[2:16:02] uh, that will be increasing the
[2:16:05] capital project fund by
[2:16:07] $252,000 and decreasing the
[2:16:10] Greenways Fund 6.6 million,
[2:16:11] which is what the total budget
[2:16:13] for that fund was at the time.
[2:16:13] So there
[2:16:15] s about $400,000 left
[2:16:17] over. Uh, once all the projects
[2:16:19] were completed, item d would be
[2:16:20] appropriating fund balance and
[2:16:21] recognizing revenues for the
[2:16:23] ShotSpotter program that will
[2:16:24] increase special revenue. Grant
[2:16:28] fund $169,000. And be
[2:16:30] recognizing federal forfeiture
[2:16:31] funds that will be in the
[2:16:32] general fund and increasing
[2:16:36] that $139,000. Item f
[2:16:37] reallocating funds from the
[2:16:38] Stream Permanent Bond Fund to
[2:16:39] the North South Connector
[2:16:40] project. Uh, that
[2:16:41] ll be
[2:16:42] increasing the Engineering
[2:16:42] Capital Project fund by
[2:16:44] $250,000, and there
[2:16:45] ll be no
[2:16:46] overall change to the Street
[2:16:48] Improvement Bond fund. Um, and
[2:16:49] item g, recognizing donation
[2:16:51] for the Wildwood West Fishing
[2:16:52] Access project. And that
[2:16:52] ll be
[2:16:53] increasing the capital project
[2:16:58] fund by $125,000. Although that
[2:16:59] brings the operating fund
[2:17:01] budget, uh, to just over 200
[2:17:03] million. And we recommend the
[2:17:04] council approved budget
[2:17:06] ordinance amendment number one.
[2:17:10] Any questions?
[2:17:11] Motion to.
[2:17:12] Approve. Second.
[2:17:14] All right. Most of them have a
[2:17:15] Councillor Willis. Second by
[2:17:16] Councilmember Jones. Any other
[2:17:19] discussion? All those in favor
[2:17:19] say aye.
[2:17:19] Aye.
[2:17:20] Those opposed say nay.
[2:17:22] Motion passes five zero.
[2:17:25] Shall move on to review of the
[2:17:27] AUGUST 13th, 2026 City Council
[2:17:28] agenda.
[2:17:28] MR. Maddox.
[2:17:31] The for that agenda be put on
[2:17:32] the screen for the public
[2:17:32] s
[2:17:33] viewing. We
[2:17:34] ll give that a few
[2:17:52] seconds.
[2:17:54] All right, all right. Move on
[2:17:55] to the city manager report.
[2:17:56] Just a couple things I would
[2:17:59] like to welcome all of our ecu
[2:18:01] students back for the semester
[2:18:02] they have returned. You might
[2:18:03] have seen a little bit of
[2:18:05] change in the traffic that we
[2:18:07] are excited for them to be
[2:18:09] back. Sure, we will get to know
[2:18:11] some of them. Real person over
[2:18:13] the next. Over the next few
[2:18:15] weeks. And then finally, I
[2:18:15] ll
[2:18:16] tell you what, I just have to
[2:18:18] give a big shout out to the
[2:18:21] city and staff for another
[2:18:23] great little League softball
[2:18:26] World Series. You will never
[2:18:28] understand the amount of effort
[2:18:30] that goes into that behind the
[2:18:32] scenes from our fire Rescue
[2:18:34] police, the miraculous work
[2:18:37] that Recreation and Parks does
[2:18:39] are solid waste department. And
[2:18:40] then our special events
[2:18:42] department as well. They just
[2:18:44] absolutely no pun intended.
[2:18:46] Knock it out of the park. And
[2:18:48] you know, it has an opportunity
[2:18:49] to show all the great things
[2:18:51] that we have here in Greenville
[2:18:53] and the comments from people
[2:18:54] all around the country and the
[2:18:56] world about our, our community.
[2:18:58] It really feels good. You know,
[2:18:59] when you put that much effort
[2:19:01] into it to to know that people
[2:19:02] really appreciate what we have
[2:19:04] here, right here in Greenville.
[2:19:05] So again, I
[2:19:06] d like to say thank
[2:19:09] you. Uh, to the best staff in
[2:19:11] the whole wide world. The staff
[2:19:12] of this evening. Thank you. So
[2:19:12] I.
[2:19:19] Have a.
[2:19:20] All right. City attorney
[2:19:20] s
[2:19:21] report.
[2:19:22] Thank you, MR. Mayor. I
[2:19:23] ll just
[2:19:24] say quickly. Um, the council
[2:19:26] had two good meetings tonight.
[2:19:27] The workshop and this meeting.
[2:19:29] And, um, also a shout out to
[2:19:30] the city attorney
[2:19:31] s office. Get
[2:19:32] to find assistant city attorney
[2:19:34] sitting over there with a
[2:19:36] strong, silent type of a lot of
[2:19:38] the background work gets done.
[2:19:40] And, um, so, uh, kudos and
[2:19:42] thanks to to the staff, I have
[2:19:43] two assistants sitting right
[2:19:43] there, two that.
[2:19:46] Were absolutely awesome.
[2:19:48] I.. I gonna say, you
[2:19:48] re lucky
[2:19:50] you said that. I could see
[2:19:50] both.
[2:19:51] Of them a little. I don
[2:19:51] t.
[2:19:51] Know.
[2:19:51] What he
[2:19:52] s trying to do right
[2:19:52] here.
[2:19:53] Okay? I
[2:19:55] m trying to do. Yeah.
[2:19:57] Nope. Hey, no pressure during
[2:19:57] the city clerk
[2:19:58] s.
[2:19:59] Report.
[2:20:02] You guys already know my staff.
[2:20:05] A one, as always. Thank you.
[2:20:05] Back there.
[2:20:06] Hey, one of them laughed.
[2:20:07] I think.
[2:20:07] It
[2:20:08] s okay in spirit. She
[2:20:08] s.
[2:20:09] She knows.
[2:20:09] She
[2:20:10] s doing the dirty work
[2:20:11] behind the scenes.
[2:20:12] Okay. That
[2:20:13] s right, I gotcha.
[2:20:14] And last thing is, just welcome
[2:20:16] back, students. All right.
[2:20:18] All right. Thank you very much.
[2:20:18] Let
[2:20:22] s start with the okay.
[2:20:23] Councilmember Robinson.
[2:20:24] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[2:20:25] Um.
[2:20:27] Glad to have the students back.
[2:20:27] I
[2:20:29] m asking everybody in
[2:20:31] Greenville have a little more
[2:20:32] patience. Take a little more
[2:20:34] careful look at intersections
[2:20:35] and whatnot, because we
[2:20:36] probably got a lot of kids
[2:20:37] coming to Greenville for the
[2:20:38] first time. They
[2:20:38] ve not been
[2:20:39] here. And their first time out
[2:20:40] of the house, they
[2:20:40] re probably
[2:20:41] going to be distracted. So take
[2:20:43] a little more caution, be a
[2:20:44] little more attentive to what
[2:20:45] you
[2:20:47] re doing, and be patient as
[2:20:49] they move in and get settled
[2:20:50] in, because there are benefit
[2:20:51] to our community. We look
[2:20:52] forward to seeing them. Uh,
[2:20:53] number two, I
[2:20:55] m so, so excited
[2:20:57] about the sports complex is
[2:20:57] coming to fruition. It
[2:20:58] s been a
[2:20:59] long time coming, but we
[2:20:59] re
[2:21:01] making that progress now and
[2:21:02] starting to turn over dirt and
[2:21:03] putting down the fields. And
[2:21:04] that
[2:21:06] s exciting. And I think if
[2:21:07] any of you watch what happened
[2:21:10] the last nine days, take that
[2:21:12] and put it, uh, somewhat on a
[2:21:14] every weekend basis for 45
[2:21:16] weekends a year and see what
[2:21:16] that
[2:21:17] s going to do for our
[2:21:17] community, because it
[2:21:18] s going
[2:21:19] to do great things. Uh, I
[2:21:20] m
[2:21:21] excited about the boardwalk,
[2:21:22] Wildwood Park connecting the
[2:21:24] two. I hope we
[2:21:25] ll look at maybe
[2:21:26] trying to figure out how to
[2:21:28] utilize the mobile home parks
[2:21:29] that, you know, to perhaps
[2:21:30] figure out a way to connect
[2:21:31] that, because that would give
[2:21:33] us some additional land to put
[2:21:34] more hiking trails in or nature
[2:21:36] viewing or whatnot. I mentioned
[2:21:37] that last time, but I
[2:21:37] m so
[2:21:41] excited about that. Um, really,
[2:21:42] really want to give some kudos
[2:21:44] out to Rich ballot. Uh, you
[2:21:44] know, it
[2:21:47] s just another example
[2:21:48] of one of our local business
[2:21:50] people stepping up and not just
[2:21:51] doing his business in
[2:21:53] Greenville, but giving back to
[2:21:55] Greenville. He helped negotiate
[2:21:57] the land deal for us. He put
[2:21:58] the pier in at Wildwood Park,
[2:21:59] and that
[2:22:00] s just touching on
[2:22:01] some of the things that that
[2:22:03] man is doing. So rich, I hope
[2:22:04] you see this, and I hope you
[2:22:05] understand how much we
[2:22:06] appreciate what you and your
[2:22:07] family are doing for
[2:22:08] Greenville, because I do know
[2:22:10] you give back to to those who
[2:22:11] help you. So I appreciate
[2:22:16] everything you do. Um. This
[2:22:19] past weekend, uh, Brandon Kraft
[2:22:20] at the very back. Brandon,
[2:22:21] thank you for doing what you
[2:22:21] re
[2:22:24] doing. There was a fly in at
[2:22:25] Greenville Airport, and I
[2:22:26] m
[2:22:30] told 1143 people attended that
[2:22:31] event, which was amazing. I
[2:22:32] think y
[2:22:32] all didn
[2:22:33] t quite expect
[2:22:35] that many, but I think that
[2:22:35] says what you
[2:22:36] re doing to to
[2:22:38] create a new, uh, atmosphere
[2:22:40] for the airport. And I look
[2:22:41] forward to seeing what more
[2:22:41] you
[2:22:42] re going to do, because I
[2:22:43] have great ideas that you
[2:22:43] re
[2:22:44] going to do a wonderful things
[2:22:45] at airport, and we
[2:22:45] re going to
[2:22:46] keep moving it in the right
[2:22:50] direction. Finally, um, I don
[2:22:50] t
[2:22:52] think we know how big the the
[2:22:54] World Series. Of Softball is. I
[2:22:56] mean, people from all over the
[2:22:57] world were watching Greenville,
[2:23:00] North Carolina for nine days.
[2:23:01] But more importantly, I don
[2:23:01] t
[2:23:04] think we really understand the
[2:23:05] manpower and the woman power
[2:23:07] that has to go in to make this
[2:23:08] thing go off as the way it did
[2:23:10] from our volunteers to our
[2:23:11] staff workers to our employees,
[2:23:14] to ems, fire, police. I mean,
[2:23:16] the field was absolutely
[2:23:19] gorgeous. Everything like it
[2:23:19] was. Well, and we
[2:23:20] re seeing
[2:23:20] it
[2:23:20] s like we do it every
[2:23:21] weekend. I
[2:23:23] m just amazed at
[2:23:24] that. And I think it
[2:23:25] s amazing
[2:23:27] to see what we do on the world
[2:23:28] stage, because we were on the
[2:23:30] world stage for nine days. And,
[2:23:31] uh, it
[2:23:32] s cool to see that and
[2:23:34] to hear people just listen when
[2:23:34] you
[2:23:35] re in the stands. And the
[2:23:36] council member Willis was up
[2:23:38] there with her family and just
[2:23:39] listening to people talk about
[2:23:41] rambling. Wow, this is such a
[2:23:42] big event and seeing the pro
[2:23:44] players coming here. Oh man,
[2:23:47] that is so special. Uh, and we
[2:23:48] need to keep doing that, that
[2:23:49] program, because it is very
[2:23:51] unique. And the cool thing
[2:23:52] about is when you look in the
[2:23:53] dugouts, whether they were from
[2:23:55] Japan or from Italy or Canada
[2:23:57] or Florida or Kentucky or North
[2:23:59] Carolina, all these kids have
[2:24:01] the same faces and motivation
[2:24:02] to try and play softball and
[2:24:03] win. And I
[2:24:04] m so happy that
[2:24:05] North Carolina or as they say,
[2:24:05] Jocko, that
[2:24:06] s what they call
[2:24:08] it. Jocko. Um, my wife has some
[2:24:10] relatives that know a lot of
[2:24:11] these players, and they came
[2:24:13] down. So, uh, congratulations
[2:24:14] to North Carolina. I hope that
[2:24:16] we can perhaps get them in
[2:24:18] here. Uh, and one of our future
[2:24:19] meetings to recognize them. And
[2:24:21] those young ladies who put hard
[2:24:22] work in. And I think something
[2:24:22] that
[2:24:24] s telling is that if you
[2:24:26] talk to these young ladies and
[2:24:27] my wife is talking to her
[2:24:29] relatives, a lot of these young
[2:24:30] girls and the mayor knows this,
[2:24:30] they
[2:24:31] ve been playing travel
[2:24:33] ball for 3 or 4 years before
[2:24:34] they even come up to a stage
[2:24:36] like this. And so, again, I
[2:24:37] think that illustrates the
[2:24:39] importance of a sports complex.
[2:24:39] I
[2:24:41] m so proud of our city for
[2:24:42] putting us on the world stage
[2:24:44] and as a diamond to be seen and
[2:24:46] be shown and brag about some
[2:24:47] super proud of our city. And
[2:24:48] everybody helped put that on.
[2:24:49] And, uh, I just can
[2:24:50] t say
[2:24:50] enough words. I
[2:24:51] m very happy
[2:24:52] about that. And I look forward
[2:24:54] to next year. Uh, and first, I
[2:24:56] want to thank Margo. Margo, I
[2:24:57] hope you
[2:24:57] re watching for
[2:24:59] getting me from my car to the
[2:25:01] stands and all that special
[2:25:02] attention you gave me and my
[2:25:04] wife. I appreciate all that.
[2:25:06] Um, with that mayor, thank you
[2:25:06] very much. Those are my
[2:25:07] comments.
[2:25:08] All right. Thank you,
[2:25:09] Councilmember Willis.
[2:25:11] Thank you. Mayor. Uh, so
[2:25:12] congratulations to the junior
[2:25:13] fire marshals who are
[2:25:15] recognized this evening. Um,
[2:25:17] they, um, seemed so excited.
[2:25:18] And I know they were able to
[2:25:19] learn a lot through the
[2:25:21] program. So congratulations to
[2:25:22] them. Um, and also the life
[2:25:23] skills that they were able to
[2:25:25] learn. I think that has to to
[2:25:27] be noted that you never know
[2:25:28] what could be the impact of
[2:25:31] that. Also, again, to the
[2:25:33] winners of the, uh, Softball
[2:25:34] World Series, a Little League
[2:25:35] Softball World Series, I
[2:25:37] believe the ladies were from
[2:25:38] Clayton. Um, and so just the
[2:25:40] immense sense of pride being in
[2:25:42] Greenville, hosting them, um,
[2:25:43] but also to cheer on the North
[2:25:45] Carolina team was great. Um,
[2:25:47] the games were wonderful and it
[2:25:48] was something for our families
[2:25:50] to enjoy. Uh, over this past
[2:25:52] week. So congratulations to
[2:25:53] them, to the partners and the
[2:25:55] staff who made it happen, like
[2:25:56] Council Member Robinson said,
[2:25:59] it was phenomenal. And just
[2:26:00] know the work that happened
[2:26:01] behind the scenes is
[2:26:03] incredible. So kudos to all
[2:26:04] those who had a part to play in
[2:26:06] it. I also had written down the
[2:26:08] Greenville um, airport or the
[2:26:09] Greenville airport, and they
[2:26:10] re
[2:26:11] flying in. Recently. I thought
[2:26:14] that was, um, really cool to
[2:26:14] see. Uh, we
[2:26:15] re already seeing
[2:26:17] innovative ways to think and to
[2:26:18] showcase our airport, and I
[2:26:18] think that
[2:26:19] s the direction that
[2:26:21] we should be going in. So I
[2:26:23] wanted to make mention of that.
[2:26:25] Also, thank you to the clerk
[2:26:25] s
[2:26:27] office and to Director Gooby
[2:26:29] for hosting Camp Playground
[2:26:31] this summer. They were able to
[2:26:33] come in and learn what their
[2:26:34] city government does for them.
[2:26:36] They are a rec and park summer
[2:26:37] camp, and they were able to
[2:26:39] come in there at the Barnes
[2:26:40] Building and were able to come
[2:26:43] in and learn, um, about how
[2:26:45] their city serves them. And so
[2:26:46] that was an awesome opportunity
[2:26:49] for them. This past summer. Um,
[2:26:52] also, I think. Um, nope, nope.
[2:26:52] That
[2:26:53] s it. That
[2:26:53] s all. Thank
[2:26:54] you mayor.
[2:26:56] Thank you, Councilmember Hardy.
[2:26:58] Uh, just to echo some of the
[2:27:00] comments on the flying day, uh,
[2:27:01] as a board member of the
[2:27:02] airport, we really appreciate
[2:27:03] everything that the staff does
[2:27:06] to, uh, boost our airport and
[2:27:07] put it in a better life for the
[2:27:08] community. And I thought that
[2:27:10] was a really cool, uh, day and
[2:27:12] initiative to let the community
[2:27:12] come in and see what the
[2:27:14] airport is all about. Then I
[2:27:15] just got some other things.
[2:27:16] Some good things happening in
[2:27:17] the district. Three. Uh, our
[2:27:19] students will be coming back
[2:27:20] and they start school on the
[2:27:22] 17th. Uh, this is kind of weird
[2:27:23] for me not to be getting ready
[2:27:25] to go out of school, but I
[2:27:25] m
[2:27:26] excited to have all my friends
[2:27:28] back in town. Uh, we are
[2:27:30] continuing to push students to
[2:27:31] get parking permits with our
[2:27:33] fine forgiveness and warning
[2:27:34] programs. Uh, we really just
[2:27:36] want to get them, uh, the
[2:27:37] parking passes. They
[2:27:37] re
[2:27:39] eligible for us so they can
[2:27:41] park illegally and correctly,
[2:27:44] uh, to, you know, give some
[2:27:45] relief to our permanent
[2:27:47] residents that, uh, can
[2:27:48] sometimes understandably be
[2:27:50] frustrated by the parking
[2:27:52] situation down in that Cerna
[2:27:54] grid neighborhood. Uh, the
[2:27:55] reword with code enforcement
[2:27:57] for efficiency is going to, uh,
[2:27:59] greatly help our efforts to
[2:28:01] tackle the minimal housing
[2:28:03] standards. Uh, in my district,
[2:28:05] as well as the education piece
[2:28:07] that we will be, uh, working
[2:28:10] with ecu landlord and property
[2:28:12] managers, as well as the hoa
[2:28:13] group. Uh, we
[2:28:14] ll be doing some
[2:28:16] sessions at ecu to educate
[2:28:17] students on their rights and
[2:28:19] responsibilities as renters.
[2:28:19] Uh, we
[2:28:20] ve got Woodlawn Street
[2:28:22] Construction that has started
[2:28:24] this past week as well as we
[2:28:25] just approved the contract for
[2:28:26] the Woodland Park. So it
[2:28:27] s good
[2:28:30] to see that, uh, the Cerna grid
[2:28:33] area is getting a nice
[2:28:35] facelift. Slowly but surely.
[2:28:37] Uh, a great more great things
[2:28:39] will continue to come. Uh, and
[2:28:41] then how can I forget about the
[2:28:41] Little League World Series
[2:28:43] happening on Elm Street? Uh,
[2:28:45] that is another great event for
[2:28:47] the district. That is my
[2:28:48] comment. Thank you. Mayor.
[2:28:49] All right. Thank you very much,
[2:28:50] Councilmember Jones.
[2:28:51] And thank you for starting out
[2:28:55] the way, um, mayor. So I do
[2:28:57] want to I also agree with the,
[2:28:59] um, congratulations to the
[2:29:01] junior fire marshals, the
[2:29:03] Little League, um, pit area,
[2:29:05] um, pit airport. And I also
[2:29:07] want to say in district one, we
[2:29:08] had the Jackie Robinson League.
[2:29:08] And I want to say
[2:29:10] congratulations to all the
[2:29:11] winners of the Jackie Robinson
[2:29:13] League. Of course, I had to
[2:29:16] shout out the Red Sox, I have
[2:29:18] to, um, and I also want to
[2:29:19] thank the city for helping with
[2:29:21] the pool party that they had on
[2:29:23] yesterday. Um, and also for
[2:29:25] cutting the trees back. So now
[2:29:27] we really do need those
[2:29:29] bleachers because it was hot
[2:29:31] and we need them covered. It
[2:29:32] was really hot. But we do thank
[2:29:33] you for the trees down, cutting
[2:29:35] the trees back. But if we could
[2:29:36] look into those bleachers, I
[2:29:37] appreciate it. Y
[2:29:37] all have a
[2:29:39] great day.
[2:29:41] Thank you. All right. Mayor Pro
[2:29:42] Tem Forman.
[2:29:45] Um, I mirror everyone else
[2:29:45] s
[2:29:50] comments. Um, also, I want to
[2:29:52] highlight again, uh, what was
[2:29:55] said by, uh, Seth as it relates
[2:29:56] to addressing substandard
[2:29:58] housing and really excited
[2:30:00] about the efforts that we are
[2:30:01] being made with code
[2:30:04] enforcement to, um, remedy the
[2:30:05] situations that we
[2:30:05] re
[2:30:08] experiencing in our community.
[2:30:11] Um, as well as what, uh, the
[2:30:13] Jackie Robinson Baseball League
[2:30:15] and, uh, Little League Softball
[2:30:18] World Series. Uh, seeing those
[2:30:20] athletes, uh, the level of
[2:30:22] commitment that they have, um,
[2:30:23] and I don
[2:30:24] t know that everyone
[2:30:25] realizes that they have to go
[2:30:27] through four levels to get
[2:30:30] here. Um, and so the commitment
[2:30:31] from them and their families is
[2:30:35] very impressive. Um, I also
[2:30:38] want to highlight again, um, I
[2:30:38] know we
[2:30:40] re talking a lot about
[2:30:43] curfew downtown. Um, but, uh,
[2:30:46] that is a symptom. Um, when we
[2:30:49] have teen takeovers of the fact
[2:30:51] that we do not have enough for
[2:30:52] our teens to do. And, uh,
[2:30:53] there
[2:30:54] s a lot of things going
[2:30:55] on in our community to help
[2:30:57] remedy that. Uh, there
[2:30:58] s some
[2:30:59] wave. There have been some
[2:31:01] other community, um, events
[2:31:03] that have been put together to
[2:31:05] remedy that. And, um, and would
[2:31:07] like to see us continue to
[2:31:08] support those efforts from
[2:31:10] within the community that are
[2:31:11] offered by people that
[2:31:13] understand the needs and
[2:31:15] interests at a different level
[2:31:16] to make things culturally
[2:31:19] relevant. Um, and then I also
[2:31:20] see Brandon in the back, back
[2:31:24] there. And, uh, I was at the
[2:31:28] airport event, um, with, uh, my
[2:31:31] grandson and, uh, and a cousin.
[2:31:34] Uh, um. That
[2:31:35] s awesome.
[2:31:38] And, um, and we had an
[2:31:41] absolutely awesome time. Um, it
[2:31:43] was nice to see something like
[2:31:45] that with our airport, and it
[2:31:46] was a reflection of the fact
[2:31:46] that we
[2:31:47] re moving in a better
[2:31:50] direction. So, uh, one of the
[2:31:52] highlight that they enjoyed the
[2:31:54] planes, and I think they voted
[2:31:56] on one of the, the yellow
[2:31:57] helicopters, if I remember
[2:31:59] correctly, was their, uh, their
[2:32:02] favorite. Um, that day. And,
[2:32:03] um, and so meeting Stewart and
[2:32:06] his wife and the their jet was
[2:32:07] his, their favorite jet that
[2:32:10] they got to sit in and act like
[2:32:13] they were driving. So, um, want
[2:32:14] to elevate that. That was a
[2:32:16] very good event and looking
[2:32:19] forward to more of that. And
[2:32:19] that
[2:32:19] ll.
[2:32:22] Be all. All right. I would like
[2:32:22] to I don
[2:32:23] t know if we
[2:32:23] ve done
[2:32:25] this yet or not, but, uh, I
[2:32:25] d
[2:32:29] like to publicly congratulate
[2:32:31] Rachel Whitten here, who is now
[2:32:33] the, uh, new PRESIDENT And ceo
[2:32:36] of the cvb. She takes over for
[2:32:37] Andrew Schmidt, who is with the
[2:32:38] cvb. For how many years?
[2:32:40] 32.
[2:32:42] 32 years. Wow. Big shoes to
[2:32:44] fill. But if anybody can do it,
[2:32:46] you can do it. I know it, and
[2:32:47] we want to say thank you to you
[2:32:48] for all that you did during the
[2:32:49] Little League Softball World
[2:32:50] Series. Also, I saw, uh, Rachel
[2:32:53] out there braving the heat. Um,
[2:32:54] and I can just tell by the end,
[2:32:56] when I was walking away after
[2:32:57] the last game, I could tell
[2:32:58] that Rachel, as well as all of
[2:33:00] our staff members and all the
[2:33:01] volunteers. We
[2:33:02] re glad that it
[2:33:03] happened, but I think we
[2:33:03] re
[2:33:04] glad to see it in two also,
[2:33:06] because we appreciate all that
[2:33:07] you do. Thank you to our city
[2:33:09] staff. Thank you to all the
[2:33:11] volunteers. Thank you to eku,
[2:33:11] uh, who
[2:33:12] s also an integral
[2:33:14] partner in being able to put on
[2:33:15] the Little League Softball
[2:33:16] World Series. They offer up
[2:33:18] their dorms. Um, I know that,
[2:33:19] uh, they clean all the jerseys
[2:33:21] and uniforms of the girls. Uh,
[2:33:23] throughout the week. Uh, and I
[2:33:24] know they provide a whole bunch
[2:33:25] of resources, too. I think as
[2:33:26] far as, like, probably
[2:33:28] transportation, I think. And
[2:33:30] and food, uh, throughout the
[2:33:31] entire week. So thank you to
[2:33:33] them for doing that. And, you
[2:33:34] know, most importantly, thank
[2:33:35] you to Little League
[2:33:37] International for giving us a
[2:33:38] chance. What was it six years
[2:33:40] ago? Six years ago, they made
[2:33:43] the decision to come and host
[2:33:43] the Little League Softball
[2:33:45] World Series in our community.
[2:33:46] They took a chance on us and I
[2:33:48] feel like we did pretty good.
[2:33:49] Um, I think over the last six
[2:33:50] years, we
[2:33:51] ve continued to see
[2:33:52] the Little League Softball
[2:33:54] World Series continue to grow.
[2:33:55] Um, it was pretty awesome to
[2:33:57] see over 3000 fans out there
[2:33:59] for the championship game. The
[2:34:01] city of Greenville was lucky to
[2:34:03] be able to be on, uh, national
[2:34:05] and international tv for over a
[2:34:07] week. We got a tremendous
[2:34:08] amount of publicity off of
[2:34:10] that. And even leading up to
[2:34:12] that, they play all the
[2:34:13] regional games throughout the
[2:34:14] entire country. And one of the
[2:34:16] taglines is The Road to
[2:34:17] Greenville. So we get a
[2:34:19] tremendous amount of publicity
[2:34:21] for hosting the Little League
[2:34:22] Softball World Series. So I
[2:34:23] just want to say thank you so
[2:34:24] much to the Little League
[2:34:26] International for entrusting us
[2:34:27] and giving us the opportunity
[2:34:28] to be able to show that we can
[2:34:30] host it. I feel like we are
[2:34:31] both dedicated partners. The
[2:34:32] city of Greenville, as well as
[2:34:34] Little League International, to
[2:34:36] continuing to grow the, uh, the
[2:34:37] softball World Series here in
[2:34:38] our community, making it better
[2:34:39] and ultimately making it a
[2:34:40] better experience for all the
[2:34:42] girls that participate in it. I
[2:34:43] was fortunate enough. I know
[2:34:45] one of the girls, uh, family
[2:34:47] members that, uh, uh, was on
[2:34:49] the Johnson County team, and I
[2:34:50] was able to talk to them
[2:34:51] before. And I said, you have no
[2:34:52] idea what you
[2:34:53] re getting into.
[2:34:54] Like I said, you have no idea
[2:34:55] the experience that your
[2:34:57] daughter is about to to have,
[2:34:58] uh, here in Greenville, North
[2:34:59] Carolina. And I got to see them
[2:35:00] after they won the
[2:35:01] championship. I said, I told
[2:35:02] you it was going to be good,
[2:35:03] and I knew it probably exceeded
[2:35:05] the expectations that they had.
[2:35:06] I mean, they were treated like
[2:35:09] absolute royalty all week long,
[2:35:10] which they they deserve because
[2:35:12] they have worked very, very
[2:35:13] hard. Like Council Member
[2:35:14] Robinson had said, a lot of
[2:35:15] those girls have been playing
[2:35:18] travel ball for 5 to 6 years,
[2:35:20] and they put in a tremendous
[2:35:21] amount of work. They
[2:35:21] re showing
[2:35:22] up on Saturday mornings at
[2:35:24] 10:00 in the morning. I don
[2:35:24] t
[2:35:26] know how many 13 year old kids
[2:35:28] are, uh, getting practicing at
[2:35:30] 10 A.M. On Saturday morning and
[2:35:31] trying to get the work in to be
[2:35:32] able to get to play at that
[2:35:35] level. So congratulations to
[2:35:36] all the girls, not just North
[2:35:36] Carolina. We
[2:35:37] re we
[2:35:37] re we
[2:35:37] re
[2:35:38] thankful that they won, but all
[2:35:40] the girls that came throughout
[2:35:41] the entire country, throughout
[2:35:43] the entire world to come to
[2:35:44] Greenville, North Carolina. And
[2:35:45] thank you to all the citizens
[2:35:46] of Greenville that were so
[2:35:48] welcoming to everybody that
[2:35:50] came and visited us. Every year
[2:35:51] I get to hear really cool and
[2:35:53] exciting comments from people
[2:35:54] that visit. I gotta say, I
[2:35:56] think the funniest one was this
[2:35:58] last, uh, this I think it was
[2:36:00] on Sunday or Friday. Uh, we
[2:36:03] were sitting there and one of
[2:36:04] the, uh, the people said, man,
[2:36:06] these concession stands are
[2:36:07] awesome. So I
[2:36:07] ve never heard
[2:36:09] that before. So we must have
[2:36:10] some really good food here in
[2:36:14] Eastern Paradise. So with that,
[2:36:16] I need a motion to adjourn.
[2:36:17] Motion to adjourn. Second.
[2:36:18] All right. Motion been made by
[2:36:19] Councilmember Robinson. Second
[2:36:20] by Councilmember Hardy. All
[2:36:21] those in favor say aye. Aye.
[2:36:22] Opposed. Say nay.
[2:36:25] Motion passes five zero.
[3:03:54] We are adjourned.
[3:03:56] All right. Good evening.
[3:03:56] I
[3:03:57] d like to welcome everyone to
[3:04:01] the AUGUST 13th, 2026 meeting
[3:04:02] of the Greenville City Council.
[3:04:02] I
[3:04:03] m mayor P.J. Connelly for
[3:04:03] presiding over tonight
[3:04:04] s
[3:04:04] meeting. First, I
[3:04:04] d like to
[3:04:06] call on Mayor Pro Tem Forman
[3:04:07] for the invocation, followed by
[3:04:08] the Pledge of Allegiance.
[3:04:10] Thank you. Mayor. Um, I was
[3:04:14] reminded this week of my wife.
[3:04:18] And oftentimes that, uh, we
[3:04:18] don
[3:04:21] t remember what the reason
[3:04:24] is that we do this work. And so
[3:04:26] I was led to share with us
[3:04:28] tonight, uh, first Corinthians
[3:04:31] 13. And it goes as if I speak
[3:04:35] in tongues of men or of angels,
[3:04:38] but do not have love. I
[3:04:39] m only
[3:04:42] a resounding gong or cymbal
[3:04:46] clanging. If I have the gifts
[3:04:49] of prophecy and can fathom all
[3:04:51] mysteries and all knowledge.
[3:04:53] And if I have faith and can
[3:04:55] move mountains, but do not have
[3:04:58] love, I am nothing. If I give
[3:05:01] all I possess to the poor, and
[3:05:04] give over my body to hardship,
[3:05:06] that I MAY boast only, but do
[3:05:07] not have love, I
[3:05:08] ve gained
[3:05:11] nothing. Love is patient. Love
[3:05:15] is kind. Love does not envy. It
[3:05:17] does not boast. It is not
[3:05:20] proud. It does not dishonor
[3:05:23] others. It is not self-seeking.
[3:05:26] It is not easily angered. It
[3:05:29] keeps no record of wrongs. Love
[3:05:31] does not delight in evil, but
[3:05:36] rejoices in truth. It always
[3:05:39] protects, always trust, always
[3:05:41] hopes. And it always
[3:05:43] perseveres. And my favorite
[3:05:45] part of this is verse eight
[3:05:48] that says, love never fails.
[3:05:49] Amen.
[3:05:51] Please stand for the Pledge of
[3:05:54] Allegiance.
[3:05:57] And allegiance to the flag of
[3:05:59] the United States of America,
[3:06:01] and to the Republic for which
[3:06:04] it stands. One nation under
[3:06:07] GOD, indivisible, with liberty
[3:06:12] and justice for all.
[3:06:13] MADAM Clerk, will you please
[3:06:14] call the roll?
[3:06:16] Yes, sir. Mayor Connolly here.
[3:06:18] Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Here.
[3:06:19] Council member Jones. Here.
[3:06:21] Council member. Hardy. Here.
[3:06:22] Um, Councilmember Sculley has
[3:06:23] let us know he will not be
[3:06:24] attending this evening. Council
[3:06:25] member Robinson here. Council
[3:06:27] member Willis here. All right.
[3:06:27] Mayor Connolly of.
[3:06:28] Thank you very much. We
[3:06:28] ll now
[3:06:29] move on to approval of
[3:06:29] tonight
[3:06:30] s agenda. MISTER
[3:06:31] Manager, any recommended
[3:06:31] changes?
[3:06:32] I have no changes.
[3:06:33] All right. Do I have a motion
[3:06:33] to approve?
[3:06:35] Motion to approve. Second.
[3:06:35] All right. Motion has been made
[3:06:37] by Councilmember Jones and by
[3:06:38] Councilmember Robinson. All
[3:06:38] those in favor say aye. Aye,
[3:06:40] aye. Opposed. Say nay.
[3:06:41] Motion passes five zero.
[3:06:45] Move on to special recognitions.
[3:06:52] I
[3:06:54] d like to ask Glen Wooten to
[3:07:02] come forward. Family.
[3:07:09] Sorry.
[3:07:13] So it is my honor to recognize
[3:07:16] Glen Wooten for his retirement
[3:07:18] from the city of Greenville.
[3:07:18] And I
[3:07:20] d just like to take a few
[3:07:23] minutes to read some comments
[3:07:24] that came directly from some of
[3:07:27] your coworkers. Just about you.
[3:07:30] All right, Glen, you, uh, you
[3:07:32] began your work with the city
[3:07:35] right out of high school, and,
[3:07:36] uh, started when the Public
[3:07:37] Works Department spent several
[3:07:39] years there and then
[3:07:40] transitioned over to the
[3:07:42] Recreation and Parks Department
[3:07:44] over the course of your career.
[3:07:46] Glen, you a valuable member of
[3:07:50] the team and built a reputation
[3:07:52] for doing things the right way.
[3:07:54] Now, they say, if you know
[3:07:56] Glen, you know that his truck
[3:07:58] and his tools retrieve like
[3:08:01] Fort Knox and everything was
[3:08:04] always locked up, organized,
[3:08:07] and exactly where it belonged.
[3:08:10] Glen is an incredibly skilled
[3:08:12] welder and craftsman, and
[3:08:13] someone who takes pride in his
[3:08:16] work as a building facilities
[3:08:18] technician and the department
[3:08:18] s
[3:08:21] chief playground inspector. He
[3:08:22] made sure the facilities were
[3:08:25] safe, clean and ready for the
[3:08:27] use by the public. Glen also
[3:08:28] spent his time mentoring
[3:08:30] younger employees throughout
[3:08:32] his career, passing on his eye
[3:08:34] for detail and workplace
[3:08:36] knowledge. The attention to
[3:08:38] detail and willingness to teach
[3:08:40] others are some of Glen
[3:08:40] s
[3:08:42] greatest qualities as an
[3:08:44] employee. And Glen, we, uh, we
[3:08:45] were fortunate enough to spend
[3:08:48] some time together a couple of
[3:08:50] weeks ago, and I told you at
[3:08:52] that point in time that that I
[3:08:54] felt that there was no greater,
[3:08:56] you know, gift in your life
[3:08:58] than to serve others. And
[3:09:00] clearly, that number of years
[3:09:02] you have gone above and beyond
[3:09:04] to serve this community and
[3:09:05] touched the lives of people
[3:09:06] that you
[3:09:08] ll never know. But
[3:09:09] now, after reading all the
[3:09:10] great things that your your
[3:09:12] department had to say about
[3:09:12] you, I
[3:09:13] d say also with that,
[3:09:14] there
[3:09:15] s no greater honor than
[3:09:17] to have individuals that you
[3:09:19] have worked around for years
[3:09:21] talk so great about what type
[3:09:22] of person you are, not just
[3:09:23] worker, but what kind of person
[3:09:25] you are. So on behalf of the
[3:09:26] City Council and the city
[3:09:27] manager
[3:09:28] s office and
[3:09:30] recreation, parks,
[3:09:32] congratulations and GOD bless
[3:09:33] you. Thank you for everything
[3:09:33] you
[3:09:34] ve done for the City of
[3:09:44] Greenville. Try to get this
[3:09:45] right without dropping it and
[3:09:46] breaking it, okay? Because it
[3:09:47] s
[3:09:48] got the mayor in my name and my
[3:09:51] name on it says in recognition
[3:09:54] of 29 years and eight months of
[3:09:56] outstanding service, we extend
[3:09:58] our sincere appreciation to
[3:10:00] Ronald Glen Wooten.
[3:10:01] Congratulations.
[3:10:14] Thank you.
[3:10:15] All right.
[3:10:17] Now, if I could ask the members
[3:10:19] of the impact generates
[3:10:20] influence basketball team, both
[3:10:21] the 12 you and the high school
[3:10:22] team to come forward. Any
[3:10:50] members that we MAY have.
[3:10:52] Congratulations, guys. Bring
[3:10:55] your.
[3:10:56] Oh.
[3:10:57] Hell yeah. There. You got it.
[3:11:00] I said earlier, I was I if I
[3:11:00] just had a little bit more
[3:11:01] time, I would have set that
[3:11:03] basketball gold up on the first
[3:11:04] floor. So we could have had the
[3:11:06] game before the meeting
[3:11:08] started. It is also, uh, my
[3:11:12] honor to recognize the igi. And
[3:11:12] that
[3:11:13] s what I will say. The the
[3:11:15] impact generates influence
[3:11:17] basketball team. Both the 12
[3:11:19] team and the high school team.
[3:11:22] They are local aew program with
[3:11:24] both a 12 year team again and a
[3:11:26] high school team all year long.
[3:11:28] Teams go head to head with
[3:11:30] tough competition and always
[3:11:32] bringing their best. They have
[3:11:34] some awesome wins lately. Let
[3:11:36] me tell you about those. The 12
[3:11:39] u team took home the 2025
[3:11:41] National Championship, and the
[3:11:43] high school team grabbed second
[3:11:45] place at nationals this year.
[3:11:48] But iga is about more than just
[3:11:50] basketball. They really focus
[3:11:51] on teaching their players to
[3:11:54] work hard, make good choices
[3:11:56] and stay true to themselves.
[3:11:57] The lessons learned on the
[3:11:59] court help shape what these
[3:12:01] athletes are and prepare them
[3:12:03] for whatever comes next in
[3:12:04] life. And now, what I
[3:12:05] d like to
[3:12:07] do is it might not be everyone
[3:12:08] here, but I would like to to
[3:12:11] recognize those with you where
[3:12:12] the certificates.
[3:12:15] Right here. So.
[3:12:16] I
[3:12:16] m going to.
[3:12:18] Let.
[3:12:18] So I
[3:12:19] m going to start with the
[3:12:22] 12 u team. And council member
[3:12:24] Tonya Foreman would like to
[3:12:26] present you with a certificate.
[3:12:28] Well, let me see if I can get
[3:12:29] this going right here. So we
[3:12:34] have, uh, Cruz Arrington.
[3:12:39] Domini Byram.
[3:12:42] Congratulations.
[3:12:46] Amari Smith.
[3:12:47] Congratulation.
[3:12:57] Jj Jones. Kamari. Farmer.
[3:13:03] Carter. Smith. Jordan. Smith.
[3:13:08] Zion. Cherry. Kaden. Taft.
[3:13:11] Troy. Harris and Jeremiah
[3:13:18] Williams. What a great honor.
[3:13:18] Guys, let
[3:13:29] s give them a. Now we
[3:13:36] have the high school kids.
[3:13:39] Okay.
[3:13:39] Let
[3:13:43] s try to double team this.
[3:13:52] We have Brenden Porter.
[3:13:56] Christian Eisler.
[3:14:01] Not here.
[3:14:10] Uh, Jackson Foster. Jalen Rasco.
[3:14:19] Keyon Beal. Keyshawn farmer.
[3:14:28] Landon. Ashley. Loyalty. Fuller.
[3:14:40] Enrique. Beal. Bonham. Ty.
[3:14:46] Daniels. And where
[3:14:46] s coach at?
[3:14:47] Where
[3:14:47] s Antoine.
[3:14:49] At?
[3:14:53] Come on up, dude. And, uh,
[3:15:08] Coach Smith. Tony.
[3:15:10] Amari.
[3:15:12] And Kamari. I
[3:15:12] d like to
[3:15:18] recognize Kamara as well. So
[3:15:19] now I
[3:15:20] ll turn it over to
[3:15:23] council members.
[3:15:25] I just want to make sure that
[3:15:27] these teams are acknowledged
[3:15:30] for their hard work, their
[3:15:32] commitment and excellence, as
[3:15:33] well as the coaches and the
[3:15:35] families that have supported
[3:15:37] them to accomplish these goals.
[3:15:39] These are great accomplishments
[3:15:40] that they work very hard for.
[3:15:40] I
[3:15:43] m proud of you guys.
[3:15:45] Also, I want to echo that too.
[3:15:46] Congratulations, guys. It
[3:15:46] s
[3:15:47] awesome to be able to see you
[3:15:49] guys competing at such a high
[3:15:50] level, representing our
[3:15:52] community, going out there and
[3:15:53] showing good sportsmanship.
[3:15:55] Thank you to the coaches. Uh,
[3:15:57] the coaches, uh, are they pour
[3:15:58] a lot of their time and effort
[3:16:00] into making sure that they
[3:16:01] teach you the game, but they
[3:16:01] re
[3:16:02] also teaching you other things,
[3:16:02] too, that you
[3:16:03] re going to take
[3:16:04] the rest of your life. So thank
[3:16:05] you for doing that and stepping
[3:16:06] up. It
[3:16:06] s not easy. It
[3:16:07] s a huge
[3:16:08] time commitment. I know that.
[3:16:08] It
[3:16:08] s, uh, it
[3:16:09] s tough sometimes
[3:16:11] you have to take off work. Uh,
[3:16:11] but it
[3:16:12] s good. And I think
[3:16:13] these guys will appreciate
[3:16:14] everything that you
[3:16:14] ve done
[3:16:16] over this season. And they
[3:16:16] re
[3:16:17] going to continue to look back
[3:16:19] at you as a good role model for
[3:16:21] making them better in life as
[3:16:33] they get older. So thank you.
[3:16:59] Okay. All right.
[3:17:07] For. All right.
[3:17:08] Now i
[3:17:10] d like to invite the 252
[3:17:11] ladies warms up here. Come on
[3:17:44] ladies. All right. These young
[3:18:00] ladies are swarming the stage.
[3:18:02] All right. Again, it is my
[3:18:04] honor to recognize the two,
[3:18:06] five, two ladies swarm. This is
[3:18:10] a local, uh, a local aew team
[3:18:11] that has achieved remarkable
[3:18:13] success in their inaugural
[3:18:16] inaugural year of competition.
[3:18:18] The team is made up of players
[3:18:19] from Pitt County, many of whom
[3:18:21] have previously played together
[3:18:22] in all star leagues and
[3:18:24] tournaments, with a regular
[3:18:26] season record of 16 and five,
[3:18:27] they earned the opportunity to
[3:18:29] compete at Nationals in
[3:18:31] Virginia Beach. They came
[3:18:33] second to a more seasonal and
[3:18:36] experienced team, just shy of
[3:18:38] the championship by one point,
[3:18:39] which is basically basically
[3:18:40] winning. Their outstanding
[3:18:42] performance is a tournament to
[3:18:44] their strong work ethic,
[3:18:46] determination and discipline.
[3:18:48] Now, I would also like to
[3:18:50] recognize each of you young
[3:18:52] ladies and present you with a
[3:18:54] certificate. We have scholar
[3:18:55] Zachary.
[3:18:57] All.
[3:19:08] London Pierce. Eva. Kate
[3:19:15] Stilton. Chelsea. Wilkes.
[3:19:28] Brielle. Little. Zoe. Watts.
[3:19:43] Jory. Morgan. Shayna. Heath. I
[3:19:48] love this name. Carmen. Cordon.
[3:19:51] Oh.
[3:19:53] I have to get. I have to get my
[3:19:55] spell checker. Get on my spell.
[3:19:59] Checker. Uh.
[3:20:15] Uh, Levy. Mia. Perry. And we.
[3:20:15] Let
[3:20:16] s all give them another
[3:20:17] round of.
[3:20:26] Applause.
[3:20:27] Anything else? What are you.
[3:20:29] Did?
[3:20:45] Yeah. Fumbling. So I want to
[3:20:47] reiterate the congratulations
[3:20:48] that I have for these young
[3:20:50] ladies. I have seen them play.
[3:20:52] And these are some real
[3:20:54] ballers. You all. Um, also, I
[3:20:56] want to elevate Mia Perry
[3:20:58] because I understand that she
[3:21:00] was the highest scorer as well
[3:21:03] as, um, had the most rebounds.
[3:21:06] Is that correct? Huh? She
[3:21:07] s
[3:21:10] acting shy. Alrighty. Okay, so
[3:21:11] we
[3:21:12] re gonna elevate her for
[3:21:13] that and, um, and congratulate
[3:21:15] the coaches also, thank you
[3:21:16] guys for everything you do in
[3:21:22] our community.
[3:21:24] Congratulations, ladies. Again.
[3:21:24] Um, I
[3:21:26] m not going to say that I
[3:21:27] who it was, but I talked to one
[3:21:28] of the ladies up here, and I
[3:21:29] asked them if they could take
[3:21:31] the guys, and they gave me a.
[3:21:33] Yeah. So, hey, I
[3:21:34] m just saying.
[3:21:36] So if something. Hey, if
[3:21:37] something takes place in the
[3:21:38] parking lot down there, I get
[3:21:40] it, okay. Hey. Congratulations,
[3:21:40] lady. We
[3:21:41] re really proud of
[3:21:42] you. I think it
[3:21:42] s awesome the
[3:21:44] accomplishment that you, uh,
[3:21:46] you were able to to accomplish
[3:21:47] with, uh, coming in second
[3:21:47] place. That
[3:21:49] s awesome. Hey, the
[3:21:50] one thing I always tell my
[3:21:50] girls. I
[3:21:51] m a coach. I coach
[3:21:52] softball. One thing I always
[3:21:55] tell them is, is when you lose,
[3:21:57] make sure you take that the
[3:21:58] next game that you play and
[3:21:59] make you work even harder. So
[3:22:00] that that next time you
[3:22:01] re the
[3:22:01] one celebrating, you
[3:22:02] re not the
[3:22:03] one with your heads down,
[3:22:04] crying and upset that you
[3:22:04] didn
[3:22:05] t win. Make sure that you
[3:22:07] always work as hard as you
[3:22:08] possibly can, because it will
[3:22:09] translate from what you do on
[3:22:11] the basketball court into life.
[3:22:13] And make sure that you work as
[3:22:13] hard as you possibly can,
[3:22:14] because anything that you want
[3:22:15] to do in life, you can
[3:22:16] accomplish and never forget
[3:22:26] that. Congratulations.
[3:22:46] I sounds great.
[3:22:47] You know, I
[3:22:48] m used to it.
[3:22:48] That
[3:22:50] s all that. Hey.
[3:22:51] It happens, man.
[3:22:52] You got.
[3:22:53] I try to give a hand.
[3:22:56] To shrug it off. I
[3:22:56] ll sit right
[3:22:59] here. All right?
[3:23:00] I won
[3:23:01] t be the last time.
[3:23:03] I hear the Lady Swarm team is
[3:23:04] they got a team. I
[3:23:04] ve heard
[3:23:04] there
[3:23:05] s some ballers. That
[3:23:05] s a
[3:23:07] really good place, I really do.
[3:23:09] I got the inside track.
[3:23:10] You would be surprised.
[3:23:12] I probably about 30, huh? So
[3:23:13] first, here
[3:23:15] s, you know. Can
[3:23:16] you imagine? So I
[3:23:16] d love to see
[3:23:17] it. I
[3:23:17] d love to see it.
[3:23:18] And they
[3:23:19] re at various schools
[3:23:22] around the city. So..
[3:23:23] Yeah.
[3:23:24] Can you play basketball?
[3:23:25] I was a point guard.
[3:23:25] Oh. Are you.
[3:23:27] Where are you? Good shooter.
[3:23:29] I was yeah, I was.
[3:23:31] I could imagine.
[3:23:31] You know.
[3:23:32] Did you break some ankles?
[3:23:34] I was a Dennis Rodman a
[3:23:35] rebound. Oh, I was pretty good.
[3:23:36] No good. Hi.
[3:23:36] I
[3:23:36] m. I
[3:23:37] m pretty good.
[3:23:37] I
[3:23:38] m gonna have to.
[3:23:38] I
[3:23:39] m gonna have to look up some
[3:23:39] of that.
[3:23:46] Footage. All right.
[3:23:48] Okay, good. All right, we
[3:23:48] ll
[3:23:49] move on to the public comment.
[3:23:50] Period of time periods. Period.
[3:23:51] Reserve for comments to public
[3:23:52] items that were scheduled to be
[3:23:52] a subject of a hearing.
[3:23:53] Conducted this meeting or
[3:23:54] another meeting in the same
[3:23:55] week shall not be discussed. A
[3:23:56] total of 30 minutes is
[3:23:57] allocated, with each individual
[3:23:58] being allowed no more than
[3:23:59] three minutes. Individuals who
[3:24:01] register will speak or register
[3:24:02] with the City Clerk will speak
[3:24:04] in the order registered until
[3:24:05] the allotted 30 minutes
[3:24:06] expires. If time remains after
[3:24:07] all persons have registered
[3:24:08] have spoken, individuals did
[3:24:09] not register will have an
[3:24:10] opportunity to until the lot of
[3:24:11] 30 minutes expires. MADAM
[3:24:12] Clerk, our first speaker.
[3:24:14] Yes, sir. First speaker is MISS
[3:24:15] Gwen Green. You have three
[3:24:16] minutes to address the mayor
[3:24:18] and council at that podium
[3:24:23] right there.
[3:24:23] Today
[3:24:32] s date.
[3:24:35] Mayor Conley, Mayor Pro Tem
[3:24:37] Forman, city council members,
[3:24:39] city staff and members of the
[3:24:42] community. Good evening.
[3:24:42] Good evening.
[3:24:43] I
[3:24:45] m Gwen Green. I
[3:24:45] m a
[3:24:48] Greenville resident. And I
[3:24:49] think of myself as being a
[3:24:51] vested and involved community
[3:24:53] member. I serve in
[3:24:55] organizations like Delta Sigma
[3:24:57] Theta sorority. I serve on many
[3:24:59] community committees. The
[3:25:00] National Council of Negro Women
[3:25:02] where I serve on the Budget and
[3:25:03] Finance Committee. I
[3:25:04] m a
[3:25:05] regular volunteer at my church,
[3:25:08] Koinonia Christian Center. I
[3:25:10] also volunteered with the West
[3:25:11] Greenville Health Council,
[3:25:13] where I co-wrote the proposal
[3:25:15] that brought face masks, hand
[3:25:17] sanitizer and other supplies to
[3:25:18] nonprofits, community
[3:25:20] organizations, and churches,
[3:25:22] along with now volunteering
[3:25:23] with Pastor Rodney Coles of the
[3:25:23] church
[3:25:25] s outreach network to
[3:25:25] establish children
[3:25:26] s book clubs
[3:25:28] and afterschool programs, we
[3:25:28] re
[3:25:30] hoping to disrupt the school to
[3:25:33] prison pipeline. And before I
[3:25:36] moved here some 12 years ago, I
[3:25:37] volunteered with a number of
[3:25:39] other volunteer organizations,
[3:25:40] including a community
[3:25:43] development board and a
[3:25:46] redevelopment board. In total
[3:25:49] transparency. I also serve as a
[3:25:50] commissioner on the Housing
[3:25:52] Authority of Greenville and in
[3:25:55] fact serve as its chair
[3:25:58] tonight. However, in the time I
[3:25:59] have left, I
[3:26:00] d like to allay
[3:26:02] the fears of some of the city
[3:26:08] councilors. The Housing
[3:26:11] Authority staff truly are
[3:26:13] working every day to provide
[3:26:16] safe, decent housing for our
[3:26:20] residents. I will concede to
[3:26:22] you that they
[3:26:23] re working under
[3:26:25] some very difficult
[3:26:28] circumstances. Most of our
[3:26:30] facilities are some 4050 years
[3:26:32] old. It gets real hard to fix
[3:26:37] those up and clean them up to
[3:26:39] the standard that we would all
[3:26:44] like to live in. However. I
[3:26:44] d
[3:26:45] like to address a couple of
[3:26:47] other issues that were raised
[3:26:50] in your work session, one of
[3:26:54] which was the inspire report.
[3:26:56] As it was presented. It truly
[3:27:01] was pretty alarming. However, I
[3:27:02] want you to know the Housing
[3:27:04] Authority staff was responsive
[3:27:06] to all the issues that were
[3:27:10] outlined in the inspire reports.
[3:27:12] Life threatening issues as
[3:27:15] defined by hud include smoke
[3:27:19] detectors, gfci replacements,
[3:27:21] rust on electrical panels, all
[3:27:24] of which have to be repaired or
[3:27:27] replaced within 24 hours. While
[3:27:29] non-threatening issues must be
[3:27:31] corrected within 30 days.
[3:27:31] That
[3:27:32] s time.
[3:27:34] You keep going.
[3:27:37] So the reports for 2024 were
[3:27:38] corrected within 24 hours for
[3:27:40] things like smoke detectors and
[3:27:43] gfci units, including a water
[3:27:44] heater flute that had a
[3:27:46] downward slope. They were they
[3:27:47] were corrected. I
[3:27:48] ve got the
[3:27:50] details here for you. And a box
[3:27:52] back there in case someone here
[3:27:54] would like to see the paperwork
[3:28:00] itself. As to the finances,
[3:28:02] financial reports are provided,
[3:28:05] presented and accepted at every
[3:28:07] meeting. Reports on rent
[3:28:09] collection and defaults are
[3:28:11] discussed because that too is a
[3:28:12] key responsibility of the
[3:28:14] Housing authority to collect
[3:28:16] the rents and by federal
[3:28:19] mandate and outside audit is
[3:28:21] conducted annually by a
[3:28:23] reputable financial
[3:28:24] organization that is actually
[3:28:26] switched out every three years
[3:28:28] to ensure that we are going to
[3:28:31] get fair representation of the
[3:28:31] work that we
[3:28:32] re doing. The
[3:28:34] latest audit was conducted by
[3:28:36] Rector, Lofton and Reeder for
[3:28:40] the fiscal year 2025, and I
[3:28:40] ll
[3:28:42] read very quickly their
[3:28:43] opinion. In our opinion, the
[3:28:45] accompanying financial
[3:28:46] statements referred to above
[3:28:48] present fairly in all material
[3:28:49] respects, the respective
[3:28:50] financial position of the
[3:28:52] business type activities of the
[3:28:53] Housing Authority of the City
[3:28:55] of Greenville. As of SEPTEMBER
[3:28:58] 30th, 2025, and the respective
[3:28:59] changes in financial position
[3:29:01] and where applicable, cash
[3:29:02] flows thereof for the year then
[3:29:04] ended in accordance with
[3:29:05] accounting principles generally
[3:29:07] accepted in the United States
[3:29:10] of America as to a work order
[3:29:11] process, none of us are
[3:29:12] satisfied with the existing
[3:29:14] process. The. The board
[3:29:16] receives a work order report
[3:29:18] every month it gets discussed.
[3:29:20] If not every meeting, then
[3:29:22] every other meeting. The need
[3:29:24] for a better system is, without
[3:29:27] question, needed. However, the
[3:29:28] Housing Authority is going
[3:29:31] through a total software
[3:29:34] transition. The transition is
[3:29:37] being phased in so that we want
[3:29:39] to make sure that things like
[3:29:41] grant funding is being
[3:29:43] accounted for properly, that
[3:29:46] our, um, accounts receivables
[3:29:47] and account payables, that it
[3:29:47] s
[3:29:51] working. And so if you will,
[3:29:52] the deadline for all of this
[3:29:55] phased phasing in will be
[3:29:58] completed by DECEMBER of 2026.
[3:29:59] But you got to give us time.
[3:30:00] We
[3:30:01] re not satisfied with the
[3:30:03] processes it currently is. We
[3:30:04] want tenants. We want our
[3:30:06] residents to be able to know
[3:30:08] that their work order has been
[3:30:10] accepted. Finally, as I know
[3:30:10] I
[3:30:13] m running out of time, I
[3:30:13] ve
[3:30:14] reached out to our Mayor Pro
[3:30:18] Tem at our last board meeting,
[3:30:19] I stated that we needed to get
[3:30:20] into a better relationship with
[3:30:23] the city, that it would not be
[3:30:25] possible to easily build brand
[3:30:27] new structures, brand new homes
[3:30:28] without support from the city.
[3:30:31] Members of City Council. I
[3:30:32] stand here this evening telling
[3:30:35] you I suffer with housing
[3:30:37] authority envy. I envy the
[3:30:40] Denver, the Durham Housing
[3:30:42] Authority because right now
[3:30:42] they
[3:30:43] ve got three developments
[3:30:45] in process various stages of
[3:30:47] development, one of which
[3:30:49] includes the Hey Ty village,
[3:30:50] which some of you MAY remember
[3:30:51] and recall. That
[3:30:52] s Durham
[3:30:52] s
[3:30:58] black market. Black Wall
[3:30:58] Street, i
[3:31:01] m sorry. There are
[3:31:03] many phrases that come to mind
[3:31:04] to describe the current
[3:31:08] situation. I think a failure to
[3:31:10] communicate at this point in
[3:31:12] time probably says it best. And
[3:31:14] so it is that I ask that a
[3:31:15] meeting be held with the
[3:31:17] Housing Authority to better
[3:31:18] understand not only what is
[3:31:20] being done, but what has been
[3:31:22] accomplished and what we
[3:31:22] d like
[3:31:24] to see going forward. Though
[3:31:25] there have been some quarterly
[3:31:27] managers meeting with city
[3:31:28] staff, clearly there needs to
[3:31:31] be more so that respectful and
[3:31:32] respected lines of
[3:31:33] communication can be
[3:31:35] established. I thank you all
[3:31:37] for listening. Thank you.
[3:31:37] Thank you.
[3:31:39] MR. Green.
[3:31:41] Thank you.
[3:31:44] MADAM Clerk, our next speaker.
[3:31:45] We do not have any additional
[3:31:46] registered speakers.
[3:31:46] Anyone else would like speak
[3:31:47] during the public period.
[3:31:48] Please come forward. State your
[3:31:50] name. For the record, you have
[3:32:02] three minutes. All right. See
[3:32:02] you now. We
[3:32:03] ll close the public
[3:32:03] hearing. We
[3:32:06] ll move on to our
[3:32:09] appointments. MADAM Clerk.
[3:32:09] Okay?
[3:32:11] Yes, sir. First appointment
[3:32:13] that we have is to the Invest
[3:32:14] Greenville Board. That
[3:32:15] s, um, a
[3:32:16] nomination made by you, Mayor
[3:32:18] Connolly.
[3:32:21] I would like to reappoint, uh,
[3:32:22] MR. Robert Cherry.
[3:32:23] Okay. They
[3:32:23] ll need some help.
[3:32:24] Make a motion.
[3:32:25] Motion to.
[3:32:26] Appoint Robert Cherry second.
[3:32:28] All right. Motion by MAY. By
[3:32:29] Councilmember Robinson. Second
[3:32:30] by Councilmember Jones. All
[3:32:31] those in favor say aye.
[3:32:32] Aye, aye.
[3:32:33] Those opposed? Nay.
[3:32:34] Motion passes five zero.
[3:32:36] Congratulations, MR. Cherry.
[3:32:42] Okay. And that concludes
[3:32:43] appointments from West
[3:32:43] Greenville.
[3:32:45] All right.
[3:32:46] Can you roll right on the.
[3:32:48] Number five. Okay.
[3:32:49] Um, boards and commissions,
[3:32:50] board of adjustment. Um,
[3:32:53] Councilmember Jones.
[3:32:56] I would like to, um, nominate
[3:33:00] the Lewis.
[3:33:02] All right. Is there a second?
[3:33:03] Second? All right. Motion
[3:33:03] s
[3:33:04] been made by Councilmember
[3:33:05] Jones. Thank you, Councilmember
[3:33:06] Hardy. All those in favor say
[3:33:06] aye.
[3:33:07] Aye, aye.
[3:33:08] Those opposed. Nay, nay.
[3:33:10] Motion passes five zero.
[3:33:11] Congratulations. And the Geo.
[3:33:12] Jones.
[3:33:12] Um.
[3:33:13] Hello.
[3:33:15] Lewis. Lewis.
[3:33:16] Yeah. That
[3:33:18] s Thursday.
[3:33:19] Uh, next we have the
[3:33:20] Environmental Advisory
[3:33:23] Commission. Um, that that, uh,
[3:33:25] appointment is assigned to
[3:33:26] Councilmember Skelly, so we
[3:33:28] will check with him next month.
[3:33:29] Um, next we have the Historic
[3:33:30] Preservation Commission.
[3:33:31] Council member Hardy.
[3:33:31] Uh, let
[3:33:32] s continue that,
[3:33:33] please.
[3:33:35] Okay. Um, we do have the
[3:33:37] Housing Authority appointment,
[3:33:38] however, that is for the
[3:33:39] resident Commissioner seat, and
[3:33:40] we are still waiting on a
[3:33:42] nomination from the residents
[3:33:43] Council, so I don
[3:33:43] t have one to
[3:33:45] give to you tonight. Um,
[3:33:46] multimodal Transportation
[3:33:47] Commission. Council member
[3:33:48] Jones.
[3:33:48] I
[3:33:50] ll let you continue that one.
[3:33:53] Okay. Um, also, multimodal
[3:33:55] Transportation Commission Mayor
[3:33:56] Pro Tem Forman.
[3:33:57] I would like to nominate
[3:33:59] Jonathan Metellus.
[3:34:00] Second.
[3:34:01] All right. Motion
[3:34:02] s been made
[3:34:04] by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Second
[3:34:05] by Councilmember Robinson. All
[3:34:06] those in favor say aye. Aye,
[3:34:07] aye. Those opposed say nay.
[3:34:09] Motion passes five zero.
[3:34:11] Congratulations, MR. Metellus.
[3:34:12] Okay.
[3:34:14] Um. Next. Well, no. So
[3:34:16] multimodal. Transportation
[3:34:17] Commission Council member.
[3:34:17] Hardy.
[3:34:18] I like to continue that as
[3:34:19] well.
[3:34:21] Okay. Um, next we have the
[3:34:22] Greenville Convention and
[3:34:23] Visitors Authority.
[3:34:25] Councilmember Robinson.
[3:34:25] Um.
[3:34:26] Intend to meet with Rachel
[3:34:27] Whitten before I make that
[3:34:29] decision. And she just got in,
[3:34:30] so I want to do that. So I
[3:34:30] d
[3:34:31] ask that be tabled.
[3:34:33] Okay. Yes, sir. Um, next we
[3:34:34] have the planning and Zoning
[3:34:35] Commission. Mayor Pro Tem
[3:34:36] Forman.
[3:34:36] i
[3:34:40] ll continue that one. Okay.
[3:34:42] Um, police community relations
[3:34:43] committee, Councilmember
[3:34:44] Robinson.
[3:34:45] Uh, continue that, please.
[3:34:48] Okay. Yes, sir. Recreation and
[3:34:49] parks. Also, Councilmember
[3:34:50] Robinson.
[3:34:52] I would nominate Brian Fields.
[3:34:53] Okay.
[3:34:56] All right. Is there a second? I
[3:34:57] think I heard of this. I think
[3:34:59] I heard a split second there.
[3:35:01] Um, motion has been made by
[3:35:01] Councilmember Robinson, second
[3:35:03] by Councilmember Jones. All
[3:35:03] those in favor say aye.
[3:35:04] Aye, aye.
[3:35:05] Opposed? Say nay.
[3:35:07] Motion passes five zero.
[3:35:08] Congratulations, MR. Fields.
[3:35:09] All right, Mayor Conley, that
[3:35:10] concludes appointments.
[3:35:12] Thank you very much. We will
[3:35:13] now move on to new business,
[3:35:14] which are the public hearings.
[3:35:15] This is the policy of public
[3:35:16] hearings adopted by the City
[3:35:17] Council, petitioner or
[3:35:17] representative of the
[3:35:18] petitioner and a leader of
[3:35:19] those in opposition. We
[3:35:19] ll each
[3:35:20] have ten minutes Persis
[3:35:21] following. Then we
[3:35:21] ll have up
[3:35:22] to three minutes each with a
[3:35:23] total for each side, no more
[3:35:24] than 30 minutes. Additionally,
[3:35:24] we will remind those in
[3:35:25] attendance to extend the
[3:35:26] courtesy to person speaking
[3:35:28] during the public hearing and
[3:35:29] to the City Council during
[3:35:30] discussions. Comments made by
[3:35:31] members of the public are to
[3:35:32] occur only during the public
[3:35:33] hearing is allowed by the mayor
[3:35:34] in accordance with the adopted
[3:35:35] policy of the City Council.
[3:35:36] There should be no
[3:35:37] interruptions of speakers or
[3:35:38] council members, including
[3:35:39] expressions of support or
[3:35:40] disagreements or earlier by
[3:35:41] applause. As this is
[3:35:42] distracting and makes
[3:35:43] discussion difficult, we ask
[3:35:45] for your cooperation. Thank
[3:35:47] you, MR. Manager. Our first
[3:35:48] public hearing.
[3:35:49] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[3:35:50] six ordinance to annex
[3:35:53] Cobblestone South involving
[3:35:56] 2.2168 acres located east of
[3:35:58] Allen Road and at the current
[3:35:59] terminus of Quail Drive. I
[3:35:59] ll
[3:36:01] now call forward our city
[3:36:02] planner, Deon Hodge, for the
[3:36:07] presentation.
[3:36:07] Yeah.
[3:36:09] Good evening, Mayor and
[3:36:10] Council.
[3:36:14] Good evening. I like it, I like
[3:36:15] it.
[3:36:17] This property is located in the
[3:36:19] southwestern quadrant of the
[3:36:22] city. More specifically, this
[3:36:24] property is located east of
[3:36:25] Allen Road and at the current
[3:36:28] terminus of Quail Drive. The
[3:36:29] current city limits are shown
[3:36:32] in green. The subject property
[3:36:34] is shown in red. This property
[3:36:36] is located in the Green Mill
[3:36:40] Run watershed. This property is
[3:36:41] located in the primary service
[3:36:43] area on the tiered growth map,
[3:36:45] and would be located in City
[3:36:47] Council voting district number
[3:36:49] two. This property is
[3:36:52] anticipated to yield 1010
[3:36:53] single family lots, with an
[3:36:57] estimated tax value of $3.25
[3:36:59] million. And that
[3:36:59] s. This
[3:37:01] property is located in the itj.
[3:37:02] It is important to note that
[3:37:04] under section six of Goose
[3:37:04] s
[3:37:06] charter, the development can
[3:37:07] still be provided. Sanitary
[3:37:09] sewer. If the annexation is
[3:37:10] denied, and I
[3:37:11] d be happy to
[3:37:12] answer any questions.
[3:37:13] Any questions?
[3:37:17] Uh, can you go back to the
[3:37:24] first. Uh, move forward? I
[3:37:24] m
[3:37:26] sorry. The map. The first map?
[3:37:27] No, it
[3:37:28] s the second map. Move
[3:37:31] forward with the red one. Yes.
[3:37:34] I just want to look at it again.
[3:37:43] Okay.
[3:37:44] All right.
[3:37:50] Any questions? Thank you very.
[3:37:52] Much.
[3:37:53] All right. The public hearing
[3:37:54] is now open. Those who speak on
[3:37:55] behalf, the applicant MAY come
[3:37:55] forth. Please state your name
[3:37:56] for the record. Your first
[3:37:57] person has ten minutes. All
[3:38:09] others have three minutes.
[3:38:10] Seeing none, those in
[3:38:11] opposition to the applicant
[3:38:12] come forward. Please state your
[3:38:13] name. For the record. The first
[3:38:14] person has ten minutes. All
[3:38:29] others have three minutes. I
[3:38:30] see none. Public hearing is now
[3:38:31] closed up for a board
[3:38:33] discussion or motion.
[3:38:34] Motion to approve. Second. All
[3:38:35] right.
[3:38:36] Motion for MAY by Councilmember
[3:38:37] Willis. Second by Councilmember
[3:38:39] Robinson. Any other discussion?
[3:38:41] All those in favor say aye.
[3:38:41] Aye, aye.
[3:38:42] Those opposed say nay.
[3:38:44] Motion passes five zero.
[3:38:45] Item number seven.
[3:38:46] All right. Thank you. Mayor.
[3:38:47] Item number seven. Ordinance to
[3:38:48] annex Lyndale East. Section
[3:38:50] five, phase two, involving
[3:38:53] 10.79 acres located at the
[3:38:54] current terminus of Remington
[3:38:56] Drive and Stonehenge Drive.
[3:38:58] Again, call for our city
[3:38:59] planner, Deon Hodge for the
[3:39:07] presentation.
[3:39:09] So this property is located in
[3:39:10] the southeastern quadrant of
[3:39:12] the city. More specifically,
[3:39:14] this property is located at the
[3:39:16] current termini of Remington
[3:39:19] Drive and Stonehenge Drive. The
[3:39:20] current city limits are shown
[3:39:22] in green. The subject property
[3:39:24] is shown in red. This property
[3:39:26] is located in the Fork Swamp
[3:39:29] watershed. This property is
[3:39:30] located in the primary service
[3:39:32] area on the tiered growth map,
[3:39:34] and will be located in City
[3:39:35] Council voting district number
[3:39:38] four. This property is
[3:39:40] anticipated to yield 21 single
[3:39:42] family lots, with an estimated
[3:39:48] tax value of $14.7 million. And
[3:39:50] as this property is located in
[3:39:51] the itj. It is important to
[3:39:53] note that under section six of
[3:39:55] gcs charter, the development
[3:39:56] can still be provided. Sanitary
[3:39:58] sewer. If the annexation is
[3:39:59] denied, and I
[3:40:00] d be happy to
[3:40:01] answer any questions.
[3:40:02] All right.
[3:40:03] Any questions for MR. Hodge?
[3:40:05] Just one. Do you anticipate
[3:40:05] that when they
[3:40:06] re built out,
[3:40:07] that they will connect to
[3:40:08] Stonehenge so they can exit out
[3:40:09] to Arlington?
[3:40:10] Exactly. Thank you. That seems
[3:40:11] to be the.
[3:40:11] Their goal.
[3:40:13] There. All right.
[3:40:17] Any other questions? Thank you
[3:40:19] very much. Public hearing is
[3:40:20] now open. Those to speak on
[3:40:21] behalf of the applicant MAY
[3:40:22] come forward. Please state your
[3:40:23] name for the record, the first
[3:40:24] person has ten minutes. All
[3:40:33] others have three minutes.
[3:40:35] Good evening. Good evening.
[3:40:35] I
[3:40:36] m Dwight.
[3:40:38] Nelson with Rivers and
[3:40:39] Associates. We
[3:40:39] re the agent for
[3:40:42] the owner. And, uh, be glad to
[3:40:43] answer any questions you MAY
[3:40:43] have. That
[3:40:44] s all.
[3:40:53] All right. Any questions? Thank
[3:40:54] you very much. Thank you. That
[3:40:56] was a great presentation.
[3:40:56] That
[3:40:57] s my.
[3:40:58] Favorites.
[3:41:00] All right. Anyone else is here
[3:41:00] to speak on behalf? The
[3:41:01] applicant MAY come forward.
[3:41:02] Please state your name for the
[3:41:16] record, you have three minutes.
[3:41:17] Seeing none, those in
[3:41:17] opposition to the applicant
[3:41:18] come forward. Please state your
[3:41:19] name for the record. The first
[3:41:20] person has ten minutes. All
[3:41:31] others have three minutes.
[3:41:32] Seeing none. Public hearing is
[3:41:33] now closed for a board
[3:41:35] discussion or motion.
[3:41:37] Motion to approve. Second.
[3:41:38] All right. Motion for MAY by
[3:41:39] Councilmember Hardy. Second by
[3:41:40] Councilmember Robinson. Any
[3:41:42] other discussion? All those in
[3:41:44] favor say aye. Aye. Those
[3:41:45] opposed say nay.
[3:41:47] Motion passes five zero.
[3:41:47] All right. Let
[3:41:48] s move on to
[3:41:49] item number eight.
[3:41:50] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[3:41:51] eight. Ordinance requested by
[3:41:56] pobo llc to rezone a total of
[3:41:59] 56.3694 acres from ra 20
[3:42:01] residential agriculture to
[3:42:03] industry to industry for tract
[3:42:07] one, 47.5795 acres to o dash a
[3:42:09] office Conservation overlay for
[3:42:16] track 28.6062 acres and to o
[3:42:20] office for tract 3-0.1837 acres
[3:42:21] for the property, located at
[3:42:23] the northeast corner of the
[3:42:25] intersection of Old Creek Road
[3:42:26] and Tram Road. Costs for
[3:42:27] forward, our Assistant
[3:42:28] Director, Shanti Gubbi for the
[3:42:32] presentation.
[3:42:34] All right. Good evening.
[3:42:36] Good evening.
[3:42:38] Um, this property is located in
[3:42:40] the northeast quadrant of the
[3:42:41] city. Um, it
[3:42:41] s more
[3:42:43] specifically located along Old
[3:42:45] Creek Road. So just sort of to
[3:42:46] the top left. That would be
[3:42:49] Heister. Yale. This rezoning is
[3:42:50] divided into three different
[3:42:51] tracks. I
[3:42:52] ll go through them,
[3:42:53] but then I have a survey. I
[3:42:53] ll
[3:42:54] give you a little bit more
[3:42:56] detail. Um, but track one is
[3:42:58] the bulk of the property. You
[3:43:00] have tract two, which goes
[3:43:02] around the perimeter and then
[3:43:03] track three. I have a blow up
[3:43:04] of that. So it
[3:43:05] s just a teeny
[3:43:07] tiny little piece there. Um,
[3:43:07] and we
[3:43:08] ll talk about why that
[3:43:08] s
[3:43:12] been, um, uh, proposed for just
[3:43:16] office. So again, this is the
[3:43:18] breakdown of the different, uh,
[3:43:19] zoning that they
[3:43:20] re asking for.
[3:43:23] Track one is for industry.
[3:43:25] Track two is office with a
[3:43:27] conservation overlay, and track
[3:43:30] three is for plain office. This
[3:43:31] is a photograph of the
[3:43:34] property. So, um, Old Creek
[3:43:36] Road would be, uh, you know,
[3:43:41] sort of behind you. There is an
[3:43:43] activity center located along
[3:43:44] North Creek Road. Activity
[3:43:46] centers are where, um,
[3:43:49] commercial and even industrial
[3:43:53] is encouraged and expected
[3:43:54] under the current zoning, which
[3:43:56] is already 20 at full build
[3:43:58] out, the number of trips would
[3:44:01] be roughly 1600 and at full
[3:44:02] build out under the proposed
[3:44:04] zoning, the trips would be
[3:44:07] about 1548. So you have a net
[3:44:11] decrease of 48 or 43 trips. So
[3:44:13] because of that, um, when they
[3:44:15] did the initial analysis and it
[3:44:16] is a reduction in trips, then
[3:44:16] they don
[3:44:17] t go further with the
[3:44:19] staff report that you normally
[3:44:22] see. Um, the property is
[3:44:26] located in the second, the
[3:44:28] Johnson Mill Parkers Creek
[3:44:30] watershed. If stormwater is
[3:44:31] required, it will require ten
[3:44:33] year detention. The property is
[3:44:35] not located in a special flood
[3:44:38] hazard area, and there are no
[3:44:40] potential wetlands, buffers or
[3:44:42] streams. Again, the property is
[3:44:45] currently zoned are a 20. Um, I
[3:44:46] want to briefly talk about
[3:44:47] tract two because that
[3:44:47] s a
[3:44:49] conservation area overlay that
[3:44:53] is typically not, uh, a or a, a
[3:44:56] zoning that we have. Um, this
[3:44:57] is a zoning that we
[3:44:57] ve had for
[3:44:59] years. This is not something
[3:45:02] under the new Youdo. And the
[3:45:02] reason it
[3:45:04] s used, and this is
[3:45:06] straight out of our Udo, is
[3:45:07] when property is zoned with
[3:45:09] that ca overlay, then that
[3:45:11] means that, um, you
[3:45:12] re
[3:45:14] prohibited from having
[3:45:16] buildings, structures, parking
[3:45:18] and drives, etc. On that piece
[3:45:20] of property. So it essentially
[3:45:22] acts as a buffer. And then just
[3:45:24] a little bit further, it says
[3:45:26] it shall remain undeveloped,
[3:45:27] vacant. And again, you can
[3:45:28] t
[3:45:29] put building structures or
[3:45:31] parking on it. And then one
[3:45:33] other requirement is as it has
[3:45:36] to be at least 100ft wide. And
[3:45:36] so that
[3:45:37] s essentially why you
[3:45:40] have tract two at that, um,
[3:45:42] with that surrounding tract
[3:45:45] one. And the reason why is
[3:45:46] because the future land use
[3:45:49] plan recommends industrial or
[3:45:52] logistics in grey. And then you
[3:45:53] have the green. And that
[3:45:53] s
[3:45:55] potential conservation open
[3:45:56] space. And we talk about that.
[3:45:58] Green serves two purposes. It
[3:46:00] can either serve as a purpose
[3:46:02] for um, potential environmental
[3:46:03] constraints. But it can also
[3:46:05] show that there should be some
[3:46:07] sort of a buffer between the
[3:46:10] industrial and then the yellow
[3:46:12] is residential. So in this
[3:46:14] case, the request is to put the
[3:46:16] conservation, at the
[3:46:18] conservation area overlay
[3:46:20] around the perimeter of the
[3:46:22] property, track three is that
[3:46:24] little tiny piece. And they
[3:46:26] have left that as part of an
[3:46:28] access. So that
[3:46:29] s why the track
[3:46:32] three is just office by itself.
[3:46:35] So again the land, the Future
[3:46:38] land use plan recommends, uh,
[3:46:40] industrial. The request is for
[3:46:42] industrial with again some
[3:46:44] conservation area overlay
[3:46:45] around the periphery and
[3:46:46] staff
[3:46:47] s opinion. The request is
[3:46:48] in compliance with the comp
[3:46:50] plan with the future land use
[3:46:51] and character map. Therefore,
[3:46:54] staff recommends approval. And
[3:46:57] at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning
[3:46:58] and Zoning meeting, the
[3:47:00] Commission voted unanimously to
[3:47:01] recommend approval of the
[3:47:03] request and I will be happy to
[3:47:05] answer any questions.
[3:47:06] All right. Thank you very much.
[3:47:08] Any questions for MISS Scooby?
[3:47:10] I just have one. Is it my
[3:47:10] understanding that there
[3:47:11] s an
[3:47:13] additional buffer or, um,
[3:47:15] between that and the properties
[3:47:16] surrounding.
[3:47:18] It?
[3:47:20] Do you mean for tract two or
[3:47:22] tract two? Is the buffer.
[3:47:23] Tract to is the buffer? But
[3:47:23] that
[3:47:25] s more than what is
[3:47:27] normally required.
[3:47:28] Yes.
[3:47:29] Does that make sense?
[3:47:30] Yes. It will stay in its
[3:47:32] natural state. So whatever
[3:47:34] trees are there, those have to
[3:47:35] stay there. Right. And again
[3:47:35] you can
[3:47:37] t put parking and you
[3:47:37] can
[3:47:38] t put buildings in it. But
[3:47:40] you will still have the normal
[3:47:42] buffers that would be required
[3:47:43] as well. Okay. So let
[3:47:43] s say
[3:47:47] extra 100ft of no buildings and
[3:47:49] no parking lot is essentially
[3:47:51] what that accomplishes.
[3:47:53] And that is near Dnipro where
[3:47:54] Dnipro is being.
[3:47:55] Yeah, that
[3:47:56] s just kind of to
[3:47:57] the south of it along North
[3:48:00] Creek Road. Mhm.
[3:48:01] Can you tell me a little bit
[3:48:02] more about why there
[3:48:02] s a cookie
[3:48:05] cutter track three.
[3:48:07] I let the applicant but again
[3:48:10] okay. The, the tiny piece is so
[3:48:12] there can be access ingress and
[3:48:15] ingress and egress because you
[3:48:16] cannot put that through the
[3:48:19] conservation area overlay. But
[3:48:21] again we have a representative
[3:48:22] here who can talk a little bit
[3:48:23] more about it. But it was
[3:48:27] purposeful.
[3:48:29] All right. Any other questions.
[3:48:31] Thank you very much. All right.
[3:48:33] The public hearing is now open.
[3:48:33] Those who speak on behalf of
[3:48:34] the applicant MAY come forward.
[3:48:35] Please state your name for the
[3:48:36] record, the first person has
[3:48:38] ten minutes. All others have
[3:48:40] three minutes.
[3:48:41] Uh. Good evening. Mayor.
[3:48:43] Council member. My name is Ken
[3:48:45] Malpass, representing Po Bow.
[3:48:46] Um, to address your question,
[3:48:48] MR. Robertson, what it is is
[3:48:48] there
[3:48:50] s an existing gravel
[3:48:53] drive that provides access to a
[3:48:55] couple, um, owners in the back.
[3:48:57] This, uh, old tram lane that
[3:48:57] s
[3:48:59] been there for probably 75 or
[3:49:01] 80 years. And because of the
[3:49:04] way the conservation, um, you
[3:49:05] cannot put a private drive
[3:49:06] through it. So we had to
[3:49:08] separate out that so they could
[3:49:10] still keep that access is what
[3:49:11] it is. And we met with the
[3:49:12] neighbors. And that
[3:49:12] s how this
[3:49:14] conservation overlay came
[3:49:17] about. Um, we had a 50 foot
[3:49:19] originally that would match the
[3:49:21] vegetation, and they asked for
[3:49:22] another 50ft. And I think
[3:49:23] everybody was in agreement
[3:49:25] that, um, with the compromise,
[3:49:26] that that would be okay. We had
[3:49:27] to leave that or that would
[3:49:30] have negated the. Access by
[3:49:31] doing the overlay.
[3:49:32] That was kind of my
[3:49:33] supposition.
[3:49:37] Right. Thank you.
[3:49:38] Any other questions?
[3:49:39] All right. Any other questions
[3:49:43] for MISS Malpass? Thank you
[3:49:44] very much. Thank you. Anyone
[3:49:46] else that is here to speak on
[3:49:47] behalf of the applicant MAY
[3:49:47] come forward. Please state your
[3:49:49] name for the record. You have
[3:50:01] three minutes. Seeing none.
[3:50:02] Those in opposition to the
[3:50:03] applicant MAY come forward.
[3:50:03] Please state your name. For the
[3:50:04] record. The first person has
[3:50:07] ten minutes. All others have
[3:50:17] three minutes. Seeing none. The
[3:50:18] public hearing is now closed.
[3:50:19] Open for board discussion or a
[3:50:20] motion.
[3:50:22] Motion to approve. Second.
[3:50:24] All right. Motion was made by
[3:50:26] Councilmember Willis. Second by
[3:50:29] Council Jones. All those in
[3:50:29] favor say aye.
[3:50:30] Aye.
[3:50:31] Those opposed say nay.
[3:50:33] Motion passes five zero.
[3:50:33] I
[3:50:34] ll move on to item number
[3:50:34] nine.
[3:50:35] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[3:50:37] nine. Ordinance. Ordinance
[3:50:38] requested by the Community
[3:50:40] Development Services Department
[3:50:41] to amend the Unified
[3:50:43] Development Ordinance. Udo, to
[3:50:44] add definitions and standards
[3:50:46] for short term rentals,
[3:50:48] homestay and short term rental.
[3:50:51] Whole house lodging uses in
[3:50:53] adding these uses to section
[3:50:55] 313. Table of uses as permitted
[3:50:57] uses in the following zoning
[3:50:58] districts are a 20 residential
[3:51:01] agriculture r-1 five s
[3:51:03] residential single family r9s
[3:51:05] residential single family are
[3:51:07] six residential single family
[3:51:09] or non residential or six
[3:51:10] residential or six a
[3:51:12] residential or six mh
[3:51:16] residential mobile home th10
[3:51:18] tiny home community. MR..
[3:51:20] Medical. Residential. MRS..
[3:51:21] Medical. Residential. Single
[3:51:23] family or office. Residential
[3:51:26] cd downtown commercial and cdf
[3:51:28] downtown commercial fringe. Now
[3:51:30] call for an Assistant Director.
[3:51:31] Shanti Gooby for the
[3:51:32] presentation.
[3:51:32] I don
[3:51:33] t want to say anything,
[3:51:35] but after you read that, our
[3:51:36] whole crowd.
[3:51:36] Left.
[3:51:38] Almost our whole crowd. The the
[3:51:38] three in the back.
[3:51:39] Are here.
[3:51:39] We
[3:51:41] re here for the long run.
[3:51:43] Right?
[3:51:43] We
[3:51:44] ll try to make it as
[3:51:48] interesting as possible. Um, so
[3:51:50] again, um, short term rentals.
[3:51:52] Um, those can come on many
[3:51:54] different platforms. The most
[3:51:56] popular ones are Airbnb and
[3:51:59] Burbank, and generally you have
[3:52:01] two types of, um, short term
[3:52:03] rentals. You have what we
[3:52:03] re
[3:52:05] calling the home state, which
[3:52:07] is where you have a host on
[3:52:08] site with you, whether it be an
[3:52:11] apartment or a house of some
[3:52:13] sort. And then we have what
[3:52:13] s
[3:52:14] called, in the second
[3:52:16] definition, whole house
[3:52:16] lodging. And it
[3:52:17] s exactly what
[3:52:18] it sounds like. You get the
[3:52:21] whole dwelling to yourself. So
[3:52:21] we
[3:52:22] re just basically referring
[3:52:24] to it with the host and without
[3:52:28] a host. Uh, um, several months
[3:52:32] ago, city staff was, um, able
[3:52:34] to use some software that deals
[3:52:36] with short term rentals. Uh,
[3:52:39] this was done back in APRIL of
[3:52:41] this year, and we were able to
[3:52:43] identify some with certainty
[3:52:46] and some with not exact
[3:52:48] specificity of short term
[3:52:49] rentals that are in Greenville.
[3:52:50] So we
[3:52:51] ve shown those all with
[3:52:53] the blue dots. And then we
[3:52:55] broke those out into what
[3:52:56] zoning district they
[3:52:57] re in. And
[3:53:00] so at that time we had um,
[3:53:02] roughly 270 short term rentals
[3:53:06] in the city. So now to talk
[3:53:08] about the new standards that
[3:53:09] come with this, um, I
[3:53:10] m going
[3:53:11] to go through the homestay or
[3:53:15] with host first. Um, and one of
[3:53:16] one of the reasons why I
[3:53:16] m
[3:53:17] doing this is because a lot of
[3:53:19] these carryover to the second
[3:53:21] type of short term rental. Um,
[3:53:24] so again, with a host, um, the
[3:53:27] owner or operator does have to
[3:53:28] receive a zoning compliance
[3:53:29] permit. Um, it
[3:53:30] s a one time
[3:53:33] permit. Uh, there is no
[3:53:36] exterior advertising that
[3:53:36] s
[3:53:38] allowed. So no outdoor outside
[3:53:40] signage. The owner operator
[3:53:41] does have to supply a
[3:53:43] certificate of insurance. Uh,
[3:53:46] in the amount of $1 million in
[3:53:47] liability insurance for the
[3:53:49] property. And that has to be
[3:53:50] submitted with the permit
[3:53:54] application. Also, no special
[3:53:56] events or gatherings in excess
[3:53:58] of the registered guests and
[3:54:00] then any existing short term
[3:54:01] rentals as of tonight, if this
[3:54:04] is passed, has a year to get
[3:54:06] their permit with us. Right. So
[3:54:07] these are the existing ones.
[3:54:08] And then any new ones,
[3:54:09] obviously we
[3:54:10] ll go ahead and
[3:54:11] ideally
[3:54:12] Do their permit before they
[3:54:14] establish themselves as a short
[3:54:16] term rental. Um, we do
[3:54:17] recognize that we
[3:54:17] re going to
[3:54:19] have to do, um, a little bit of
[3:54:22] publicity to to bring awareness
[3:54:24] to them. Some people probably,
[3:54:26] um, MAY not even know that they
[3:54:27] have to do this. So that
[3:54:27] ll
[3:54:30] come if we, um, if you approve,
[3:54:32] uh, text amendment. Another
[3:54:35] thing that we added is that
[3:54:37] any, um, short term rental that
[3:54:39] receives either three citations
[3:54:42] or warnings for ordinance
[3:54:44] violations. Um, some examples
[3:54:46] would be noise, trash and
[3:54:48] debris or illegal parking. Um,
[3:54:50] within a 12 month period. MAY
[3:54:51] have their zoning compliance
[3:54:54] permit revoked. Um, again, the
[3:54:56] intent is to not be punitive,
[3:54:59] but the intent is to make sure
[3:55:02] that the Airbnb owner operator
[3:55:04] is a good neighbor. And so
[3:55:04] that
[3:55:04] s what we
[3:55:05] re really after.
[3:55:09] Um, it is subject to citations.
[3:55:09] And a little bit further, I
[3:55:10] ll
[3:55:12] tell you, um, the schedule of
[3:55:14] of the the amounts of the
[3:55:17] citations. This is for whole
[3:55:19] house. These are the same ones
[3:55:19] I
[3:55:21] ve went through. So i
[3:55:21] m going
[3:55:25] to jump ahead to whole house
[3:55:26] lodging. So whole house lodging
[3:55:29] means that the owner, the host
[3:55:30] is not on site. So we
[3:55:31] ve added
[3:55:34] two additional requirements.
[3:55:37] Um, if, uh, the person who owns
[3:55:41] or operates, um, the Airbnb
[3:55:42] does not live in Pitt County,
[3:55:43] then they
[3:55:44] re going to designate
[3:55:46] someone in Pitt County who will
[3:55:48] be a local contact. That could
[3:55:50] be a local contact or planning
[3:55:52] staff, local contact for even
[3:55:54] the police department. Um, so
[3:55:57] that that agent can accept any
[3:55:58] kind of issues or complaints
[3:56:00] and be able to respond to them.
[3:56:01] And again, this could be
[3:56:03] something as like an excessive
[3:56:05] amount of parking noise,
[3:56:07] perhaps trash and debris that
[3:56:07] s
[3:56:09] been left in the yard. But
[3:56:11] ideally that would be a local
[3:56:12] contact, easy for us to get in
[3:56:14] contact with than someone
[3:56:16] perhaps in Ohio that MAY not
[3:56:17] have an idea. Any of these
[3:56:21] things are going on again.
[3:56:22] Um.
[3:56:23] We already have the forms and
[3:56:25] everything set up to go so that
[3:56:27] if if this is approved, we
[3:56:27] ll
[3:56:29] be ready to go. So the form,
[3:56:31] um, for the agent is very
[3:56:33] short. It does lay out the
[3:56:35] responsibilities of that agent
[3:56:37] so they understand if they are
[3:56:38] going to be an agent for
[3:56:39] someone. What that means,
[3:56:40] again, that they
[3:56:40] re going to
[3:56:41] have to receive and respond to
[3:56:43] complaints.
[3:56:44] Um.
[3:56:46] This last section basically
[3:56:48] just again, not to be punitive.
[3:56:50] It does give a grace period
[3:56:53] that if you are, uh, you have
[3:56:54] an agent and that agent says,
[3:56:55] actually, I
[3:56:57] m moving to Texas.
[3:56:58] It gives you some time to
[3:57:00] appoint a new agent and get
[3:57:04] their information to us. As far
[3:57:06] as the citations, these are the
[3:57:09] same citations for any kind of
[3:57:11] zoning violation. And that is
[3:57:13] the first violation. Um, is
[3:57:17] $100 a second violation is a
[3:57:20] second violation within 365
[3:57:22] days of the first. That amount
[3:57:26] is 250, and the third, again is
[3:57:28] within 365 days of the first
[3:57:31] violation. And that amount is
[3:57:34] $500. This is the table of
[3:57:35] uses. And so what this is
[3:57:39] showing is that, um, all of the
[3:57:41] districts that allow
[3:57:43] residential, uh, we have added,
[3:57:43] you
[3:57:44] ll see the red piece. So
[3:57:45] that means it
[3:57:45] s a permitted
[3:57:47] use, does not require a special
[3:57:49] use permit. Um, this will be
[3:57:51] for both of those uses. So both
[3:57:53] uses will be allowed in the
[3:57:57] very same districts. In staff
[3:57:57] s
[3:57:59] opinion, the request is in
[3:58:00] compliance with the
[3:58:01] comprehensive plan,
[3:58:03] specifically. Chapter five
[3:58:04] Creating Complete Neighborhoods
[3:58:08] Goal 5.1 strong Existing
[3:58:09] neighborhoods Greenville will
[3:58:10] have strong established
[3:58:12] neighborhoods with the support
[3:58:13] for neighbors, with support for
[3:58:15] neighborhood organizations,
[3:58:17] high quality housing, unique
[3:58:18] character, and robust
[3:58:20] integration with the rest of
[3:58:21] the community. Um. Therefore,
[3:58:23] staff recommends approval. And
[3:58:27] at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning
[3:58:28] and Zoning Commission, the
[3:58:30] Commission voted unanimously to
[3:58:31] recommend approval of the
[3:58:32] request, and I
[3:58:33] ll be happy to
[3:58:35] answer any questions.
[3:58:35] Right.
[3:58:36] Any questions?
[3:58:37] MISS.
[3:58:38] Uh.
[3:58:40] Shante, can you remind me of
[3:58:42] the period of time that an
[3:58:43] owner would have to replace an.
[3:58:45] Agent?
[3:58:47] We have said ten days.
[3:58:50] Ten days? Yes.
[3:58:51] And then you said it was a
[3:58:53] year. They have a year to get
[3:58:54] the permit. This is.
[3:58:56] Past for existing or
[3:58:58] preexisting ones. Yes. And
[3:58:59] again, that
[3:58:59] s probably going to
[3:59:00] take a little bit of word of
[3:59:02] mouth, um, to make people aware
[3:59:03] of that. But we
[3:59:04] ve given a
[3:59:05] grace period of a year.
[3:59:07] Okay. And then I can
[3:59:08] t remember
[3:59:10] if we, uh, finalize this, but
[3:59:12] what was the legality of this?
[3:59:13] I know we had discussed that in
[3:59:16] the workshop.
[3:59:17] The city attorney
[3:59:18] s office is
[3:59:19] of the view that this is a
[3:59:20] legally defensible, and it
[3:59:21] s,
[3:59:22] um, will be in compliance.
[3:59:23] Okay.
[3:59:24] Are there any other peer cities
[3:59:25] that are doing something
[3:59:27] similar to this?
[3:59:27] Yeah, there
[3:59:28] s several cities
[3:59:29] that have a short term
[3:59:30] ordinance, short term rental
[3:59:32] ordinances. Um, Raleigh.
[3:59:32] Asheville.
[3:59:34] So are they similar to what
[3:59:34] we
[3:59:35] re proposing?
[3:59:36] I think Raleigh was very
[3:59:37] similar.
[3:59:38] To. Okay.
[3:59:42] And there has been any case law.
[3:59:42] Nobody
[3:59:43] s tried to sue the city
[3:59:44] over it.
[3:59:45] Well, there hasn
[3:59:47] t been some
[3:59:48] legislation out of litigation
[3:59:50] out of Wilmington dealing with
[3:59:51] the rental registration
[3:59:53] challenge. But, um, we believe
[3:59:54] this is not a rental
[3:59:56] registration program. This is a
[3:59:57] regulation of short term
[3:59:58] rentals, but it
[3:59:58] s not a rental
[4:00:00] registration program. So we
[4:00:01] think this is legally
[4:00:04] defensible. And.
[4:00:06] Um. Can you go back to the
[4:00:07] citations again?
[4:00:12] Sure.
[4:00:16] And this would be, um, a notice
[4:00:19] of violation. So, uh, a parking
[4:00:20] through the police department
[4:00:22] MAY be a little different than
[4:00:24] if it makes its way to us.
[4:00:24] Let
[4:00:26] s say it is a parking
[4:00:29] issue. Um, and we would be
[4:00:32] notified as part of having the
[4:00:37] permits. 123 Main Street had a,
[4:00:40] you know, a kegger, and they
[4:00:43] had 25 cars. And we had to send
[4:00:44] the police out there and have
[4:00:46] them dispersed.
[4:00:46] Sure.
[4:00:48] And then as far as, like the
[4:00:50] complaints are concerned, um,
[4:00:52] are those complaints that are
[4:00:53] sent to directly to the city
[4:00:55] and then the city investigates
[4:00:57] to see if it
[4:00:58] s a legitimate
[4:01:00] complaint. And I guess where
[4:01:00] I
[4:01:01] m going with this is, is that
[4:01:02] each person
[4:01:05] s idea of quiet and
[4:01:07] peaceful is different in their
[4:01:09] and their type of nuisance is
[4:01:11] all always different. So people
[4:01:11] don
[4:01:12] t want to see any of it.
[4:01:13] Some of them could just be
[4:01:15] calling in, complaining just
[4:01:16] because they know what
[4:01:16] s going
[4:01:19] on inside the dwelling and know
[4:01:19] that it
[4:01:20] s something they don
[4:01:20] t
[4:01:21] want to see, but they just
[4:01:23] might be complaining. And so I
[4:01:26] guess my idea is, is I want to
[4:01:27] make sure that whoever
[4:01:28] s making
[4:01:29] the complaint is being vetted
[4:01:30] by the city, and the city can
[4:01:31] go ahead and say, well, this is
[4:01:32] a legitimate complaint. This
[4:01:32] isn
[4:01:33] t just somebody that
[4:01:33] s
[4:01:34] angry and just doesn
[4:01:34] t like
[4:01:36] that particular neighbor and
[4:01:37] their property.
[4:01:39] We deal with that a lot. Again,
[4:01:40] one person
[4:01:42] s tolerance is much
[4:01:44] higher or lower than their
[4:01:46] neighbors. Um, so along with
[4:01:48] the permit, we we have an index
[4:01:49] where we would keep track of
[4:01:52] the properties. Um, that would
[4:01:55] allow, uh, pd or even code
[4:01:56] enforcement to be able to
[4:01:58] cross-reference that. We would
[4:02:00] essentially be the the keeper
[4:02:03] of the information. Someone
[4:02:04] could still go on the city. Uh,
[4:02:06] compass. We would probably need
[4:02:08] to add that as a new issue from
[4:02:11] the dropdown box. And I would
[4:02:12] think that that would probably
[4:02:14] come through planning first.
[4:02:17] Um, if it is more of a of.
[4:02:17] A.
[4:02:19] A lot of parking, let
[4:02:20] s say.
[4:02:21] Um.
[4:02:25] The best solution would be to
[4:02:26] go through pd. Obviously it
[4:02:27] s
[4:02:30] not an emergency, but pd is 24
[4:02:31] hours. We
[4:02:34] re 8 to 5. Um, but it
[4:02:38] will basically the the
[4:02:39] different tentacles will still
[4:02:41] rest within the planning
[4:02:42] department is how it would
[4:02:43] work.
[4:02:45] So and I guess I think of the
[4:02:47] situation where you could have
[4:02:47] a neighbor that
[4:02:48] s just not
[4:02:49] happy. Right. And they find out
[4:02:51] that within a certain amount of
[4:02:53] complaints they could, you
[4:02:57] know, get the, the, the
[4:02:58] neighboring property that
[4:02:58] they
[4:03:00] re not happy with multiple
[4:03:01] citations and potentially get
[4:03:03] them into some legal issues. So
[4:03:05] I guess like my thought is, is
[4:03:06] if the police departments
[4:03:08] called out to, let
[4:03:09] s say, one
[4:03:12] of the short term rentals and
[4:03:13] they just say it was because of
[4:03:14] loud noise, they go out there
[4:03:15] and say it
[4:03:15] s it
[4:03:16] s nothing.
[4:03:18] Well, they call them again. It
[4:03:18] happens again. Let
[4:03:19] s say they
[4:03:20] come out there 4 or 5 times,
[4:03:22] and then the neighbor says, I
[4:03:23] m
[4:03:24] doing all these hypothetical
[4:03:26] things. Um, but this is
[4:03:29] probably a realistic situation.
[4:03:30] Um, they go out there and they
[4:03:31] say, well, they call the
[4:03:33] planning department. Say, well,
[4:03:34] the police have been out there
[4:03:35] five times. You know, I don
[4:03:35] t
[4:03:36] understand why we
[4:03:36] re not doing
[4:03:38] anything with it. How is that
[4:03:40] going to be handled? I guess as
[4:03:43] far as the complaint, because
[4:03:44] it
[4:03:45] s going to be law that the
[4:03:46] police were out there five
[4:03:49] times, but how legitimate were
[4:03:50] those five phone calls as far
[4:03:52] as an actual nuisance, right?
[4:03:53] Well, we would get the
[4:03:55] disposition right. So we would
[4:03:58] know if it was founded, if they
[4:04:00] showed up and it was quiet and
[4:04:01] everyone were being good
[4:04:03] listeners. So we as the
[4:04:04] planning department would have
[4:04:07] some idea. Yes. You have five
[4:04:09] calls for service, but actually
[4:04:10] only one time was there
[4:04:13] actually in an issue. So it
[4:04:18] will put on staff. Um, as
[4:04:21] sometimes there are of
[4:04:24] threading the needle of taking
[4:04:26] those different complaints,
[4:04:28] figuring out which really do
[4:04:30] hit a mark and which of those
[4:04:32] or maybe someone losing
[4:04:33] patience and they
[4:04:33] re calling
[4:04:38] every 15 minutes. Um, so that
[4:04:40] happens in other things as well
[4:04:41] when we get complaints. And
[4:04:42] what do you know, it
[4:04:42] s already
[4:04:44] disappeared by the time that we
[4:04:47] get there. But what will happen
[4:04:49] or what will at least give us
[4:04:53] some way of communicating
[4:04:55] directly is that either we
[4:04:55] ll
[4:04:57] have the person on the permit,
[4:04:58] or we will have a local
[4:05:00] contact, and if that local
[4:05:01] contact says, listen, this is
[4:05:02] my sister
[4:05:04] s place, great. Can
[4:05:06] you tell us who your sister is?
[4:05:08] And that is a way that staff
[4:05:09] can directly communicate with
[4:05:11] someone that we MAY not be able
[4:05:13] to reach. Um, they MAY have a
[4:05:16] run of bad guests, you know,
[4:05:18] and that happens as well. Um,
[4:05:20] but the other thing is that at
[4:05:23] least Verbo and Airbnb have a
[4:05:25] system themselves for if you
[4:05:27] live beside the property and
[4:05:29] you have issues, you can log
[4:05:31] those complaints with Airbnb
[4:05:33] and Verbo as well. Okay, so
[4:05:33] there
[4:05:35] s a couple of things. Is
[4:05:39] is a completely fail safe note.
[4:05:41] And there is going to take, um,
[4:05:45] some, some discretion of how we
[4:05:47] deal with issues that come up.
[4:05:47] Okay.
[4:05:49] Um, and then the other question
[4:05:52] I have to is as far as somebody
[4:05:55] that is in deciding about doing
[4:05:56] like a short term rental, let
[4:05:58] it be one of the two scenarios.
[4:06:01] What is there a penalty if they
[4:06:03] do not file? And I guess my
[4:06:04] thought process is you
[4:06:04] re going
[4:06:06] to have a lot of people that
[4:06:07] have been have not been used to
[4:06:08] it. There
[4:06:10] s never been a filing
[4:06:12] period. What type of penalty
[4:06:14] would be if somebody operating
[4:06:17] one and then staff is notified
[4:06:18] that so-and-so and my
[4:06:20] neighborhood is has an Airbnb
[4:06:21] and you say, well, it
[4:06:21] s not
[4:06:21] logged, we don
[4:06:22] t have them
[4:06:23] there. You send them a letter.
[4:06:24] Is there a penalty or is it
[4:06:26] just a requirement that within
[4:06:27] a certain period of time, they
[4:06:28] need to go ahead and file?
[4:06:29] Yeah. The first letter is
[4:06:31] always this has been brought to
[4:06:33] our attention. Again, we could
[4:06:35] be wrong. You MAY not be an
[4:06:38] Airbnb, but it starts with a
[4:06:39] letter. If you have any
[4:06:41] questions, please contact us.
[4:06:44] Um, and the other. And in these
[4:06:45] cases, we can direct them back
[4:06:47] to the planning site because
[4:06:48] the fillable forms will be
[4:06:49] there and they can go, oh, I
[4:06:50] didn
[4:06:51] t know I was supposed to
[4:06:52] do that. Click, click, click.
[4:06:53] And they send us what they
[4:06:56] need. Um, generally we give
[4:06:59] folks about ten days to respond.
[4:07:00] If we don
[4:07:00] t hear anything,
[4:07:00] we
[4:07:06] ll do a second. And of. We
[4:07:08] can do citations, which is what
[4:07:10] is in front of you. We can do
[4:07:12] that. Schedule of citations.
[4:07:13] Um, but obviously we want to
[4:07:14] make very sure that we are
[4:07:15] actually trying to track a
[4:07:17] short term rental. And it
[4:07:17] s not
[4:07:19] something else. But the very
[4:07:22] first thing would be a nice,
[4:07:24] firm letter. We believe you
[4:07:26] might be operating short term
[4:07:27] rental, and we would need you
[4:07:30] to apply for the permit.
[4:07:32] Final question. I see we got
[4:07:33] first, second and third. What
[4:07:33] s
[4:07:36] the fourth?
[4:07:38] There is, of course, that
[4:07:39] s
[4:07:39] where I
[4:07:40] m going to call MR.
[4:07:41] McGirt and say, MISTER McGirt,
[4:07:43] we do not have a good listener.
[4:07:44] What would we like?
[4:07:44] That
[4:07:45] s that
[4:07:45] s what I
[4:07:45] m going to
[4:07:47] say. And so then I then that
[4:07:48] turns my attention to is, I
[4:07:51] guess, probably revocation
[4:07:55] maybe of a permit. And I guess
[4:07:56] from a legal standpoint, how
[4:07:59] does the city defend removing
[4:07:59] somebody
[4:08:00] s legal permit to be
[4:08:02] able to operate a short term
[4:08:06] rental.? Right. As a property
[4:08:06] owner?
[4:08:08] We could bring a civil action
[4:08:09] to to collect the penalties and
[4:08:11] also bring an injunction action
[4:08:15] to revoke the permit. And, um,
[4:08:15] they will have to cease
[4:08:16] operating if we had a court
[4:08:17] order.
[4:08:20] So but I guess from a legal
[4:08:22] standpoint, how do we where do
[4:08:24] we stand if somebody says,
[4:08:24] well, you
[4:08:25] re taking away my
[4:08:27] property rights by allowing me
[4:08:27] to be able to operate a
[4:08:29] business out of the property
[4:08:32] that I own. Do do we have any
[4:08:34] case law that says that we have
[4:08:35] the right to be able to do
[4:08:37] something like that, where we
[4:08:38] can prevent somebody from
[4:08:40] actually having a rental?
[4:08:41] Well, the case law says that
[4:08:43] cities that have the authority
[4:08:45] to zone to zone buildings and
[4:08:47] land, um, the short term rental
[4:08:48] case that I was talking about
[4:08:49] out of Wilmington, it said that
[4:08:50] they had a Wilmington
[4:08:51] s program
[4:08:52] was illegal because it was a
[4:08:53] rental registration program.
[4:08:54] But the court said that the
[4:08:57] cities could still zone use
[4:08:58] zoning to regulate short term
[4:09:00] rentals. And we drafted this
[4:09:02] ordinance in light of that case
[4:09:04] so we could bring a civil
[4:09:06] action to to revoke the permit
[4:09:07] and cease them from operating.
[4:09:08] So so essentially, there
[4:09:09] s
[4:09:10] nothing I guess it would just
[4:09:12] be if somebody decided to just
[4:09:13] kind of like they could sue for
[4:09:15] any other reason that they
[4:09:16] would establish a case law.
[4:09:16] For it.
[4:09:18] They could try to sue and say,
[4:09:18] we
[4:09:18] re.
[4:09:19] Taking away their.
[4:09:20] Property rights.
[4:09:21] The case law is clear. Cities
[4:09:23] have the authority to his own
[4:09:25] property and to, um, enact
[4:09:27] short term rental zoning
[4:09:28] ordinances as well. You have to
[4:09:29] make sure that it doesn
[4:09:29] t. It
[4:09:29] s
[4:09:31] not a rental registration
[4:09:31] program or it
[4:09:32] s not a down
[4:09:33] zone, but the city has
[4:09:36] authority to to zone. So.
[4:09:39] We can zone. We also can put
[4:09:40] reasonable time, place and
[4:09:42] circumstances restrictions.
[4:09:43] We
[4:09:44] re not taking away their
[4:09:45] property, right. We
[4:09:45] re
[4:09:46] regulating it. And if they
[4:09:46] don
[4:09:47] t comply that
[4:09:48] s on them.
[4:09:48] Right. So we
[4:09:50] re not taking away
[4:09:51] if they comply. Nothing
[4:09:51] s
[4:09:53] taken. I mean they gotta do is
[4:09:54] comply with the and this is
[4:09:56] very reasonable. Probably it
[4:09:56] s
[4:09:57] a lot less than what I would
[4:09:58] like to say, but it
[4:09:58] s a
[4:09:59] starting point.
[4:09:59] Yeah.
[4:10:00] And I
[4:10:00] m not arguing that.
[4:10:01] I just don
[4:10:01] t understand. I
[4:10:01] m
[4:10:02] just saying I.
[4:10:03] Just want to see from the
[4:10:05] situation. If we get into that,
[4:10:05] because you
[4:10:06] ve got a lot of
[4:10:07] people that are operating right
[4:10:07] now, and I
[4:10:07] m sure they
[4:10:08] re not
[4:10:08] going to be real happy about
[4:10:11] the changes and having to to
[4:10:13] register and go through the
[4:10:15] process. And having this. My
[4:10:16] thought is you probably have
[4:10:17] some angry people, and I want
[4:10:18] to make sure it
[4:10:18] s defensible
[4:10:20] from a city standpoint.
[4:10:20] And again, it
[4:10:20] s not a
[4:10:21] registration. It
[4:10:21] s requiring
[4:10:22] them to get a zoning permit.
[4:10:23] And we
[4:10:24] re giving them one year.
[4:10:26] Those existing short term
[4:10:28] rentals are giving, given one
[4:10:30] year to obtain the permit.
[4:10:30] Okay.
[4:10:32] It would be the same thing as a
[4:10:33] homeowner who
[4:10:33] s subject to
[4:10:34] nuisance. We have a nuisance
[4:10:35] ordinance in the city of
[4:10:37] Greenville that has homeowners
[4:10:38] or people who live in a home.
[4:10:38] We
[4:10:39] re all subject to, and so
[4:10:40] it
[4:10:40] s no different. We
[4:10:41] re just
[4:10:41] putting in here like you
[4:10:41] re
[4:10:43] subject to these types of
[4:10:45] violations. If you don
[4:10:45] t run
[4:10:48] your business appropriately. I
[4:10:48] don
[4:10:50] t see any problem with it
[4:10:50] from a standpoint, because I
[4:10:52] look into this pretty heavily.
[4:10:53] I mean, I think it
[4:10:53] s a good
[4:10:54] starting point, and maybe we
[4:10:55] can even look further down the
[4:10:56] road, but I don
[4:10:56] t see any legal
[4:10:58] problems with it in terms of
[4:10:58] what we
[4:10:58] ve done, because it
[4:10:59] s
[4:11:00] so minor and it puts the onus
[4:11:01] on them that you
[4:11:02] re only paying
[4:11:03] any fees or anything if you
[4:11:06] violate what are typically
[4:11:07] reasonable standards. It
[4:11:07] s a
[4:11:09] nuisance and and use of drugs
[4:11:11] or controlled substances or
[4:11:13] noise ordinances and parking
[4:11:15] violations that we regulated
[4:11:17] for centuries in this city are
[4:11:21] not centuries, but a long time.
[4:11:21] Thank you, MR. Attorney.
[4:11:22] Thank you, MR. Attorney. You
[4:11:23] re
[4:11:23] welcome.
[4:11:25] I had the same questions, but
[4:11:26] it was from the other end of
[4:11:29] the spectrum that if somebody
[4:11:31] consistently violates, you
[4:11:32] know, what would happen
[4:11:33] because, you know, it affects
[4:11:35] citizens quality of life. So
[4:11:38] that was where my concern was,
[4:11:39] is what would happen at that
[4:11:40] point. So I appreciate you
[4:11:42] answering that question.
[4:11:43] All right.
[4:11:45] And then, uh, did you say that
[4:11:45] we don
[4:11:46] t know the exact
[4:11:48] location of all short term
[4:11:49] rentals?
[4:11:52] Yeah. The website that we used
[4:11:54] is more of a more of a website
[4:11:57] for an investor, but we were
[4:11:59] able to download that
[4:12:00] information. Some of the
[4:12:01] things, some of the properties
[4:12:02] we were able to identify,
[4:12:04] because people actually put the
[4:12:05] picture of the house on it. So
[4:12:06] we
[4:12:06] re like, oh, that
[4:12:07] s the one.
[4:12:09] Some, for whatever reason,
[4:12:09] don
[4:12:10] t put the picture out of
[4:12:12] the house. So the pen just sort
[4:12:14] of sits in the middle of the
[4:12:17] street. So we have a pen, we
[4:12:18] know about where it is so we
[4:12:20] can put it together. But but
[4:12:22] some of them are a little
[4:12:23] fuzzier. Um, so we had to do
[4:12:25] some sleuthing of our own to
[4:12:27] try to, uh, take out some of
[4:12:29] the static.
[4:12:29] So let
[4:12:31] s say potentially for
[4:12:32] one of the properties that we
[4:12:32] don
[4:12:33] t know the exact location
[4:12:36] of when the 365 day mark, uh,
[4:12:38] comes across, how are we going
[4:12:40] to ensure that all short term
[4:12:41] rentals are in compliance if we
[4:12:42] don
[4:12:43] t know the exact locations?
[4:12:44] Or is it going to be like an
[4:12:47] honor system for the operators?
[4:12:48] Somewhat of an honor system,
[4:12:51] but also we as a staff will
[4:12:52] still have to keep track
[4:12:54] because you come you you could
[4:12:56] have some people who fall out
[4:12:58] of the market who decide they
[4:12:58] don
[4:12:59] t want to do it anymore,
[4:13:02] but, you know, we did this
[4:13:04] about a year or so ago. I think
[4:13:07] we added maybe 80 more units
[4:13:10] since that time. So it will
[4:13:11] constantly be where staff will
[4:13:14] have to go in harvest as do as
[4:13:16] best as we can. And some of
[4:13:18] them MAY be, um, from phone
[4:13:21] calls and someone reporting.
[4:13:21] It
[4:13:25] s an Airbnb. Okay, so it is
[4:13:27] not a perfect science. Uh,
[4:13:29] Airbnb again, doesn
[4:13:29] t require
[4:13:31] you to put the picture of the
[4:13:32] property because that is a
[4:13:34] security issue. So it will be a
[4:13:37] little sleuthing on our side as
[4:13:37] well.
[4:13:39] So some properties could
[4:13:40] potentially slip through the
[4:13:40] cracks, which is.
[4:13:41] That.
[4:13:48] Well, yes. However, um, if they
[4:13:49] are good listeners, we MAY not
[4:13:50] know that they
[4:13:51] re there. And
[4:13:51] that
[4:13:54] s the intention is to be a
[4:13:55] good neighbor.
[4:13:58] And then one more question. Do
[4:14:00] they how often does the permit
[4:14:01] need to be renewed? Is it every
[4:14:03] year. One time, just one time?
[4:14:05] Did we say that I can
[4:14:05] t
[4:14:06] remember. Did we say the the
[4:14:08] amount for the permit? Is there
[4:14:09] amount?
[4:14:10] Uh.
[4:14:10] We have not. It
[4:14:11] s not in the
[4:14:13] manual of fees. So.
[4:14:18] That was about. Okay.
[4:14:20] I mean is it something that we
[4:14:22] should have, you know, you have
[4:14:23] to renew every year so we can
[4:14:24] keep better track of which ones
[4:14:26] are still operating and which
[4:14:28] ones are new.
[4:14:30] That would be something for the
[4:14:32] whole council to to think
[4:14:34] about. We have just put it as
[4:14:36] a, as a one time permit.
[4:14:37] I think, I think one of our
[4:14:37] attorneys over here has
[4:14:38] something to say. MISTER,
[4:14:40] MISTER Birch.
[4:14:41] What up, MISTER Birch?
[4:14:42] The answer to.
[4:14:44] That would be no. Um, because
[4:14:45] that would be. Tantamount to
[4:14:46] the registration.
[4:14:47] Yeah.
[4:14:49] And in order to be compliant
[4:14:50] with state law, we would need
[4:14:52] to avoid that. And the way to
[4:14:55] do that is, at one time, um,
[4:14:58] uh, registration or one.
[4:14:58] But using that.
[4:14:59] Word, don
[4:15:01] t say that. Yeah.
[4:15:01] Perfect.
[4:15:02] Thank you.
[4:15:04] Yeah. I appreciate how tactful
[4:15:07] MISS Gooby is. The reality of
[4:15:08] it is, is our our code of
[4:15:09] ordinances is about six inches
[4:15:11] thick. And we have individuals
[4:15:12] that are violating those
[4:15:13] ordinances every single day.
[4:15:15] And if you have bad neighbors
[4:15:17] out there, uh, our experience
[4:15:18] has been we
[4:15:18] re going to know
[4:15:20] about it.
[4:15:21] You find out sooner or later.
[4:15:24] Yes. All right. If no other
[4:15:26] questions, public hearing is
[4:15:28] now open. Those who speak on
[4:15:29] behalf of applicant MAY come
[4:15:30] forward. Please state your name
[4:15:31] for the record, first person
[4:15:32] has ten minutes. All others
[4:15:44] have three minutes.
[4:15:45] Hello?
[4:15:46] Hello.
[4:15:48] Uh. Good evening Council. I am
[4:15:50] Venus Diamond. I have been a
[4:15:52] resident of Greenville for two
[4:15:53] and a half years. Resident of
[4:15:55] North Carolina for eight years.
[4:15:57] Um, I would like to show my
[4:15:58] appreciation for this
[4:16:00] ordinance. I think this is a
[4:16:01] very good step, and I would
[4:16:04] like to see. I loved your
[4:16:05] comment about wanting to see
[4:16:07] more pushes. Um, I would love
[4:16:08] to see more pushes, uh, and
[4:16:10] more restrictions on Airbnbs
[4:16:12] and other short term leases. I
[4:16:14] think as a whole, this is going
[4:16:15] to be very good for the
[4:16:17] community, especially given a
[4:16:18] time where the housing market
[4:16:20] is inflating way more than it
[4:16:22] should be. And at the same
[4:16:24] time, uh, I think this would
[4:16:26] potentially bring down a lot
[4:16:28] of, you know, the threshold for
[4:16:29] people to be able to rent or,
[4:16:31] you know, mortgage in the city.
[4:16:32] Um, I
[4:16:35] m sorry. Um, this would
[4:16:37] also bring more business to our
[4:16:39] local hotel industry, which
[4:16:40] would be very nice for us to
[4:16:42] have. Um, though I would like
[4:16:44] to see more pushes, uh, notably
[4:16:46] in a lot of the zoning, such as
[4:16:49] r6, which does include a lot of
[4:16:51] apartments. And I feel like if
[4:16:53] that is included, it does run
[4:16:55] the risk of somebody
[4:16:57] potentially using an Airbnb to
[4:16:59] try to undercut our hotels. And
[4:17:00] I know there are a lot of
[4:17:03] people, particularly people in
[4:17:05] Greenville Power, who can
[4:17:07] utilize this if they. So please
[4:17:07] not. I
[4:17:09] m saying anybody will,
[4:17:11] but it is a possibility that
[4:17:14] could be worrying. But as a
[4:17:16] whole, I like this ordinance.
[4:17:18] This, uh, feels like it will be
[4:17:20] good, uh, for the community.
[4:17:24] Thank you, thank you, thank you.
[4:17:27] Anyone else would like to speak
[4:17:28] on behalf of the applicant MAY
[4:17:29] come forward. Please state your
[4:17:31] name for the record. You have
[4:17:42] three minutes. See none. Those
[4:17:43] in opposition to the applicant
[4:17:43] MAY come forward. Please state
[4:17:44] your name for the record. First
[4:17:45] person has ten minutes. All
[4:17:58] others have three minutes. See,
[4:17:59] now the public hearing is now
[4:18:00] closed. And for board
[4:18:02] discussion or motion. Motion to
[4:18:05] approve. Second motion was made
[4:18:07] by Council member Hardy. Second
[4:18:10] by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Any
[4:18:13] other discussion? All those in
[4:18:15] favor say aye. Aye. Those
[4:18:16] opposed say nay.
[4:18:18] Motion passes five zero.
[4:18:20] Move on to item number ten. Our
[4:18:21] final public hearing.
[4:18:22] Thank you. Mayor. Item number
[4:18:23] ten. Ordinance requested by the
[4:18:25] Community and Development
[4:18:27] Services Department to clarify
[4:18:27] the required number of
[4:18:29] professional security personnel
[4:18:31] and alcohol establishments.
[4:18:35] Bah. Bar 2022. Microbrewery and
[4:18:36] micro distillery that provide
[4:18:39] amplified entertainment. After
[4:18:41] 11 P.M. Again, call forward or
[4:18:42] Assistant Director Shanti Gubbi
[4:18:47] for the presentation.
[4:18:49] Hopefully this is very short.
[4:18:52] Uh, this is just an item to
[4:18:52] clarify, we
[4:18:53] ve kind of talked
[4:18:56] about this a little bit. Um,
[4:18:57] this first deals with what
[4:18:59] staff considers alcohol
[4:19:02] establishments. Um, we have or
[4:19:03] excuse me, we have four
[4:19:04] different uses in the city that
[4:19:06] we, um, sort of categorize
[4:19:09] under that umbrella. Um, a bar
[4:19:12] bar, 2022 microbrewery, micro
[4:19:14] distillery, um, primary
[4:19:15] activity, obviously cell
[4:19:18] consumption of alcohol on site.
[4:19:19] All of these establishments
[4:19:21] have the ability to have a
[4:19:22] mixed beverage permit a little
[4:19:23] different than just wine and
[4:19:26] beer. Um, in MAY of this year,
[4:19:28] city staff brought a text
[4:19:30] amendment to clarify the number
[4:19:33] of, um, professional security
[4:19:35] personnel that are required at
[4:19:37] alcohol establishments with,
[4:19:39] uh, amplified entertainment
[4:19:41] after 11 P.M., so it only
[4:19:44] counts after 11 P.M.. Um, at
[4:19:45] that meeting, there was some
[4:19:47] discussion that requiring
[4:19:49] security personnel MAY be
[4:19:51] burdensome, um, to small
[4:19:53] businesses. After there was
[4:19:54] some discussion staffs bringing
[4:19:56] this back, um, with the text
[4:19:59] amendment and it same version
[4:20:01] as far as amplified
[4:20:03] entertainment or udo says
[4:20:05] amplified entertainment shall
[4:20:07] shall mean any type of music or
[4:20:09] other entertainment delivered
[4:20:11] through and by an electronic
[4:20:12] system. So that could be music.
[4:20:15] It could be bingo. So the
[4:20:18] proposed language again, is
[4:20:19] based on the occupancy of the
[4:20:20] building. So it
[4:20:21] s not based on
[4:20:22] the number of people that are
[4:20:24] there at that night. And so
[4:20:25] what this says is if you have
[4:20:29] an occupancy between 1 and 200,
[4:20:31] you will have two security
[4:20:32] personnel required to be on
[4:20:35] site. And then for every 100
[4:20:37] people, essentially you add one
[4:20:39] more person. So 2 to 300 would
[4:20:42] be three. Um, and then it goes
[4:20:46] a bit further to say, um, again
[4:20:48] after 11 P.M., um shall employ
[4:20:50] no less than two security
[4:20:51] guards in order for one
[4:20:53] security guard to be inside,
[4:20:54] and then one security guard to
[4:20:57] be able to patrol private
[4:20:58] parking lot. So if they
[4:20:58] re
[4:20:59] downtown and they don
[4:20:59] t
[4:21:01] actually have a parking lot,
[4:21:02] then both of the security
[4:21:05] personnel can be inside. Um,
[4:21:06] and then staff
[4:21:07] s opinion this
[4:21:09] request is in compliance with
[4:21:11] the comprehensive plan. Uh,
[4:21:13] chapter four, Growing the
[4:21:15] Economic hub, which is goal
[4:21:18] 4.3, modernize and Diversify
[4:21:20] the local economy. Support the
[4:21:21] growth of a variety of
[4:21:22] employment opportunities and
[4:21:24] businesses that diversify
[4:21:24] Greenville
[4:21:26] s economy. Provide
[4:21:27] workers with a range of skill
[4:21:29] sets and training, and
[4:21:30] encourage business growth
[4:21:32] within the incorporated areas
[4:21:33] and diversify Greenville
[4:21:34] s tax
[4:21:35] base. And then further, we also
[4:21:37] have a second one in here. This
[4:21:39] is from chapter one. And this
[4:21:40] is growing the economic hub.
[4:21:44] 1.4 a vibrant uptown support
[4:21:46] and control uptown nightlife.
[4:21:46] Uptown is Greenville
[4:21:47] s vibrant
[4:21:49] and walkable nightlife district
[4:21:51] that supports a variety of high
[4:21:52] quality, responsible drinking
[4:21:54] and restaurant establishments.
[4:21:55] A thriving nightlife that can
[4:21:57] attract and retain young
[4:21:58] professionals that, in turn,
[4:22:00] attract high quality employers.
[4:22:02] This does not mean nightlife
[4:22:03] activities need to be allowed
[4:22:04] to run out of control.
[4:22:06] Appropriate standards for these
[4:22:07] businesses should be enforced
[4:22:10] so that uptown can be enjoyed
[4:22:12] safely and responsible.
[4:22:13] Therefore, staff recommends
[4:22:15] approval of the proposed
[4:22:16] amendment. This one
[4:22:17] s a little
[4:22:19] different. Uh, at the JULY
[4:22:21] 21st, 2026 Planning and Zoning
[4:22:23] Commission, um, they voted
[4:22:26] unanimously with a motion. Um,
[4:22:27] but the motion had a little
[4:22:30] tweak to it. So they, uh, did
[4:22:32] recommend approval, but they
[4:22:33] went further and said while the
[4:22:35] commission, um, did recommend
[4:22:37] approval of the amendment,
[4:22:38] there was language included in
[4:22:40] the motion that there should be
[4:22:42] consideration given to the
[4:22:43] economic impact on small
[4:22:45] businesses to consider the use
[4:22:47] of bouncers as a substitute for
[4:22:49] professional security personnel.
[4:22:51] And with that, I
[4:22:52] ll be glad to
[4:22:53] answer any questions.
[4:22:54] Any questions?
[4:22:56] One question on your proposed
[4:23:01] language. If you go back to it.
[4:23:03] There is says 1200. You really
[4:23:05] mean 1 to 200, don
[4:23:05] t you
[4:23:06] establish.
[4:23:06] Oh, I
[4:23:06] m sorry, there
[4:23:07] s a
[4:23:07] hyphen.
[4:23:07] I
[4:23:08] m sorry. Yeah.
[4:23:09] Okay. Just that and that
[4:23:12] s it.
[4:23:16] And what? Why? Or, staff
[4:23:18] bringing back the same version
[4:23:19] of the text.
[4:23:22] That.
[4:23:24] When I brought it to you in
[4:23:27] MAY, um, there was some
[4:23:28] discussion. I don
[4:23:28] t want to
[4:23:30] call names, but there was some
[4:23:33] discussion that perhaps, um,
[4:23:35] this was expensive and that it
[4:23:37] could be overly burdensome, uh,
[4:23:39] to some of the establishments.
[4:23:41] We had a council work session.
[4:23:42] I don
[4:23:43] t know if you were at
[4:23:45] that one. And so the decision
[4:23:47] was to go with the professional
[4:23:49] security as opposed to the
[4:23:51] bouncers, because security,
[4:23:52] professional security personnel
[4:23:54] would include off duty cops or
[4:23:57] actual professional, um,
[4:23:59] security personnel, as opposed
[4:24:02] to bouncers have less training
[4:24:07] and bouncers. Purview. If you
[4:24:09] will stop at the door of the
[4:24:10] establishment so they can
[4:24:11] t go
[4:24:12] any further. So you
[4:24:12] re going to
[4:24:18] get, um, a person with more
[4:24:24] training and the ability to.
[4:24:26] Provide service outside of the
[4:24:28] establishment.
[4:24:31] And then are the just to make
[4:24:31] sure that I
[4:24:32] m clear, are the
[4:24:35] current, um, bars whatever you
[4:24:36] want to call grandfathered into
[4:24:37] this is.
[4:24:39] Yes. This does not affect any
[4:24:41] pre-existing.
[4:24:43] So it would include any
[4:24:44] business that opens up with a
[4:24:46] special use permit under for
[4:24:48] 2022. Correct.
[4:24:51] Microbrewery. Micro distillery
[4:24:56] bar 2022. Yes. Any of the four?
[4:24:58] Me personally, I still have the
[4:24:59] same opinion as, uh,
[4:25:01] Councilmember Scully when this
[4:25:02] was last brought up. I do think
[4:25:04] that this will be burdensome to
[4:25:05] some small businesses. And I
[4:25:08] also think that it will, uh,
[4:25:09] keep some college students out
[4:25:11] of, uh, some jobs because those
[4:25:12] are who mainly staff and
[4:25:14] balance, uh, the, the clubs and
[4:25:16] the nightlife down here. Um, so
[4:25:18] I just want to make that be
[4:25:20] done. For the record.
[4:25:22] All right. Any other comments?
[4:25:23] Questions?
[4:25:26] Uh, I have one in, uh, I don
[4:25:26] t
[4:25:27] even drink. And I
[4:25:28] m swimming in
[4:25:30] alcohol after all this
[4:25:34] conversation. Um, about this,
[4:25:37] but, um, has there been any
[4:25:41] conversation, uh, with, uh,
[4:25:43] businesses or bar owners
[4:25:47] outside of downtown?
[4:25:50] No, because the ones that we
[4:25:52] have now are under the old the
[4:25:54] old rules. So, uh, so the
[4:25:58] answer is, is no. But we also
[4:25:58] don
[4:26:00] t have very many of them
[4:26:03] either. The microbreweries and
[4:26:04] the micro distilleries. We have
[4:26:07] are really downtown. Um, and,
[4:26:07] and they
[4:26:08] re not going to be
[4:26:11] affected because they already
[4:26:13] have a special use permit. So
[4:26:15] they were ahead of this. So my
[4:26:18] point is, is it is, um, it
[4:26:18] s
[4:26:20] only going to affect those that
[4:26:22] would walk in the door and we
[4:26:23] would say, oh, by the way, this
[4:26:29] is a new requirement. Mm.
[4:26:31] Can I ask our deputy chief a
[4:26:33] question about this. Does the
[4:26:34] police department feel that
[4:26:36] this is something that is
[4:26:36] necessary? Y
[4:26:40] all want to see?
[4:26:41] I
[4:26:42] m sorry to put you on.
[4:26:44] No pressure.
[4:26:46] Well, um.
[4:26:48] Have you had have you all had
[4:26:49] problems.
[4:26:50] With the officers about that?
[4:26:52] They actually work the area.
[4:26:54] Um, I haven
[4:26:55] t got a lot of
[4:26:57] feedback from that. Yes, I, I,
[4:26:58] i would have to believe that.
[4:27:00] Get some feedback from the
[4:27:01] officers that are actually on
[4:27:03] the street working.
[4:27:05] Thank you.
[4:27:05] That
[4:27:07] s a good politician answer
[4:27:11] right there. I like that. All
[4:27:13] right. Any other questions
[4:27:17] comments. Thank you very much.
[4:27:18] Public hearing is now open.
[4:27:19] Those speak on behalf of the
[4:27:20] outcome MAY come forward.
[4:27:20] Please state your name. For the
[4:27:22] record. The first person has
[4:27:23] ten minutes. All others have
[4:27:37] three minutes. None of those in
[4:27:38] opposition to the applicant MAY
[4:27:39] come forward. Please state your
[4:27:40] name. For the record. The first
[4:27:41] person has ten minutes. All
[4:27:56] others have three minutes. The
[4:27:57] public hearing is now closed.
[4:27:59] Open for a board discussion or
[4:28:01] a motion.
[4:28:03] So if one makes a motion and I
[4:28:03] don
[4:28:05] t have a motion, but if one
[4:28:08] makes a motion, would that be
[4:28:11] with the suggestion of.
[4:28:13] You could make whatever motion
[4:28:13] you want.
[4:28:14] To make. I don
[4:28:14] t want.
[4:28:15] To make.
[4:28:15] A motion.
[4:28:17] You can take their motion. You
[4:28:18] can take the staff
[4:28:18] s motion.
[4:28:26] You can make up a motion.
[4:28:28] Okay.
[4:28:28] I don
[4:28:28] t have.
[4:28:29] A motion.
[4:28:30] Did I answer your question?
[4:28:32] Did.
[4:28:34] Mayor, if I MAY. This to me is
[4:28:37] really interesting. Um, because
[4:28:38] I feel like at the core of it,
[4:28:40] um, our conversations have been
[4:28:42] centered around safety. Um, and
[4:28:44] so looking at the request of
[4:28:47] planning and zoning to opt to
[4:28:50] use bouncers, but if they have
[4:28:51] to stop at the door, then I
[4:28:52] don
[4:28:53] t know that that achieves
[4:28:54] the safety that we were looking
[4:28:56] for, for inside the
[4:28:57] establishment and then out, but
[4:29:03] then also, um, for the
[4:29:04] establishments that are already
[4:29:05] in business, this doesn
[4:29:05] t
[4:29:06] affect them. It
[4:29:08] s not
[4:29:10] retroactive. So this is going
[4:29:11] forward. So you don
[4:29:12] t want to
[4:29:13] implement something that
[4:29:14] s cost
[4:29:15] prohibitive to a new business.
[4:29:15] That
[4:29:18] s, um, that
[4:29:18] s starting
[4:29:20] their business. Uh, it
[4:29:20] s it
[4:29:20] s
[4:29:23] an interesting proposition. I
[4:29:26] think, um.
[4:29:31] Do you have a motion?
[4:29:33] Oh.
[4:29:33] You know, I don
[4:29:34] t mind making a
[4:29:39] motion. Um, gosh.
[4:29:40] And, I mean, I don
[4:29:41] t think this
[4:29:43] is at least from my point of
[4:29:43] view. I
[4:29:45] m not, you know,
[4:29:47] against safety. Um, around
[4:29:48] these establishments, but I
[4:29:49] just I just really think it
[4:29:51] would be cost prohibitive and
[4:29:52] kind of restrict what these
[4:29:54] businesses could do on a night
[4:29:56] to night basis. Um, they really
[4:29:58] have to be mindful of, you
[4:29:58] know, what day is they decide
[4:30:02] to provide amplified music past
[4:30:07] 11:00. Um, yeah. That
[4:30:07] s my only
[4:30:08] concern.
[4:30:08] I
[4:30:10] ll make a motion to approve
[4:30:12] the text as tendered. And the
[4:30:13] reason why is because I
[4:30:13] ve
[4:30:15] dealt with downtown for 40
[4:30:17] years as a criminal lawyer, and
[4:30:17] I
[4:30:20] ve seen the carnage caused by
[4:30:21] people in the bars who
[4:30:22] ve
[4:30:23] consumed way too much. They
[4:30:24] weren
[4:30:25] t just drinking, they
[4:30:27] were intoxicated and served by
[4:30:28] bars. And I think if you talk
[4:30:29] to the officers on the streets,
[4:30:31] they will tell you that
[4:30:32] oftentimes the people come out
[4:30:33] of the bars are not just
[4:30:34] drinking, they are completely
[4:30:36] intoxicated and just drunk. And
[4:30:40] today, uh, had to read, uh,
[4:30:42] because of a case of a very
[4:30:44] serious injury that occurred in
[4:30:46] a bar. And no bouncers were
[4:30:49] around, and they MAY have
[4:30:50] probably prevented it had they
[4:30:52] been. And when you use the word
[4:30:53] bouncer, what does that really
[4:30:55] mean? It means you go hire a
[4:30:56] college kid to come in and
[4:30:57] provide security, who
[4:31:00] oftentimes is a workout
[4:31:01] fanatic, who wants to go bully
[4:31:03] people and use that power.
[4:31:03] That
[4:31:04] s what my experience has
[4:31:06] been. All those watching on tv.
[4:31:07] You MAY have harsh words, but
[4:31:08] you can have all the harsh
[4:31:09] words you want. It
[4:31:10] s the truth,
[4:31:10] and I
[4:31:12] ve seen it for 40 years.
[4:31:13] Mm. So I don
[4:31:14] t want some 20
[4:31:15] year old kid. I
[4:31:16] m not trying to
[4:31:17] crack on a 20 year old
[4:31:18] providing security when
[4:31:20] something goes south, because
[4:31:20] people have had too much
[4:31:21] alcohol to drink, because
[4:31:22] they
[4:31:22] ve been in the bar for a
[4:31:24] while. And so if you
[4:31:24] ve got
[4:31:26] some professional security
[4:31:27] level of it, then you
[4:31:28] ve got
[4:31:29] better training about how to
[4:31:30] de-escalate, because what I
[4:31:31] find in the past is what
[4:31:33] bouncers do. The first thing
[4:31:34] they want to do is to strike.
[4:31:36] And I represented bars who
[4:31:36] ve
[4:31:37] been sued because their
[4:31:39] bouncers have struck an even
[4:31:39] though they
[4:31:40] ve been trained.
[4:31:40] Don
[4:31:42] t strike. People grapple
[4:31:44] and escort. But that doesn
[4:31:44] t
[4:31:46] say so for for for that
[4:31:47] experience. That
[4:31:47] s why I do
[4:31:48] this. And it
[4:31:48] s not going to
[4:31:50] affect any of our bars that are
[4:31:50] currently in because they
[4:31:51] re
[4:31:51] grandfathered in. So you
[4:31:52] re
[4:31:54] lucky. But going forward, I
[4:31:54] think if you
[4:31:54] re going to be in
[4:31:56] the business of serving alcohol
[4:31:58] late at night and people tend
[4:31:59] to imbibe because how do you
[4:32:00] get drunk if you
[4:32:01] re in the bar,
[4:32:01] if they
[4:32:02] re not serving you when
[4:32:03] they probably shouldn
[4:32:03] t be
[4:32:04] serving you? Uh, they
[4:32:04] re
[4:32:06] serving you too much alcohol.
[4:32:07] And then when you get too much
[4:32:09] alcohol, people bounce into
[4:32:10] each other or see somebody,
[4:32:10] girl. And there
[4:32:11] s comments back
[4:32:13] and forth and you and you got
[4:32:13] to fight. And then when
[4:32:14] somebody gets hit, it
[4:32:15] s not the
[4:32:16] strike that hurts them. It
[4:32:16] s
[4:32:17] when they fall on the concrete
[4:32:19] and hit their head and get a
[4:32:20] brain bleed and get brain
[4:32:21] damage. And I
[4:32:22] ve seen hundreds
[4:32:24] of cases like that in 40 years.
[4:32:24] So I
[4:32:25] m a little tough on this.
[4:32:29] I know. Um, but again, a
[4:32:29] balance. There
[4:32:30] s nothing more
[4:32:31] that I see as a college kid
[4:32:31] that
[4:32:32] s just working on their
[4:32:35] part time for 13, $14 an hour.
[4:32:36] So what level of
[4:32:38] professionalism do you get? You
[4:32:39] get what you pay for. So that
[4:32:40] s
[4:32:41] why I make the motion that we
[4:32:43] should adopt it as tendered and
[4:32:46] without the, uh, the bouncers
[4:32:47] as a substitute. Because I just
[4:32:48] think what you
[4:32:48] re really saying
[4:32:50] is let us hire somebody cheap
[4:32:50] who
[4:32:51] s a college kid. And
[4:32:52] usually professional security
[4:32:54] has liability in place on
[4:32:56] insurance. So if something does
[4:32:57] go south, you
[4:32:57] ve got a
[4:32:59] liability insurance policy that
[4:33:00] can that somebody can go after.
[4:33:02] If this, uh, security personnel
[4:33:04] went too far. And again, you
[4:33:04] see it, I
[4:33:05] ve seen it time and
[4:33:07] time again. Multiple bars have
[4:33:09] been sued down, down over.
[4:33:09] So you
[4:33:10] re making a motion for
[4:33:11] the staff sergeant?
[4:33:11] Yeah. The staff
[4:33:12] s
[4:33:13] recommendation that tracking
[4:33:14] that language.
[4:33:16] Does anybody got a second?
[4:33:16] I
[4:33:17] ll second the motion.
[4:33:18] All right.
[4:33:22] Any other discussion? Speak
[4:33:26] now. Forever. Hold your peace.
[4:33:28] All right. Motion been made by
[4:33:29] Councilmember Robinson and
[4:33:29] second by Councilmember Willis.
[4:33:30] All those in favor say aye.
[4:33:32] Aye, aye. Those opposed say
[4:33:33] nay.
[4:33:35] Motion passes, five zero.
[4:33:36] Oh.
[4:33:37] All right. That was it for the
[4:33:37] public hearings. We
[4:33:38] ll move on
[4:33:39] to other items of business
[4:33:40] number 11.
[4:33:41] All right. Thank you, mayor.
[4:33:43] Item number 11, resolution
[4:33:44] approving an interlocal
[4:33:45] agreement with Pitt County.
[4:33:47] Pitt Area Transit System
[4:33:48] relating to providing
[4:33:49] paratransit transportation
[4:33:51] services within the territorial
[4:33:52] jurisdiction of the City of
[4:33:53] Greenville. I
[4:33:53] ll call forward
[4:33:54] our transit manager with
[4:33:57] Davidson for short presentation.
[4:33:59] Thank you. Good evening. Good
[4:34:01] evening, good evening. Evening.
[4:34:03] I look forward to your short
[4:34:03] presentation.
[4:34:04] A yes, sir, i
[4:34:05] m going to give
[4:34:07] you a brief update on where we
[4:34:09] are with our Ada paratransit
[4:34:11] service. So just a reminder,
[4:34:12] Ada paratransit is the
[4:34:13] mandatory point to point
[4:34:15] transportation that we have to
[4:34:16] provide for qualifying
[4:34:19] customers with disabilities in
[4:34:20] which a disability affects
[4:34:21] their access to fixed route
[4:34:24] bus. Um, this is curb. Curb.
[4:34:25] And it
[4:34:27] s, uh, reimbursed at 80%
[4:34:29] of operating costs, 85% of
[4:34:32] capital cost. Um, pleased to
[4:34:34] announce, since we were here
[4:34:36] talking about paratransit last,
[4:34:37] that, uh, the city of
[4:34:39] Greenville and Pitt County were
[4:34:42] selected to receive $200,000
[4:34:44] each as part of a coordinated
[4:34:45] public transportation grant to
[4:34:48] continue our partnership effort
[4:34:49] to provide the transportation
[4:34:52] service. Um, great will use the
[4:34:54] funds to pay for trips that the
[4:34:56] county will provide, and pets
[4:34:58] will purchase vehicles. I
[4:35:01] believe with their funds. So we
[4:35:03] have been able to negotiate a
[4:35:06] renewed partnership for fy
[4:35:10] 2627. Uh, pets went through a
[4:35:12] fully allocated cost model, uh,
[4:35:14] exercise with ncdot staff to
[4:35:16] set their trip rate so their
[4:35:18] new trip rate at a break even
[4:35:22] point is $27 per trip. Um, the
[4:35:24] city is still on track. We
[4:35:24] re
[4:35:26] scheduled to begin, uh,
[4:35:28] partial, uh, Ada paratransit
[4:35:31] service that we will provide,
[4:35:33] uh, in OCTOBER. Uh, the service
[4:35:34] is is going to be provided with
[4:35:36] four, four vans. Three, uh,
[4:35:38] which will be Ada accessible.
[4:35:40] One is a minivan. Uh, we
[4:35:41] re in
[4:35:42] the process of creating the new
[4:35:44] positions, working with hr, uh,
[4:35:47] to get that finalized. Uh, we
[4:35:49] have trip booking software
[4:35:49] that
[4:35:50] s going to manage all of
[4:35:52] the, uh, clients bookings, um,
[4:35:54] customers can book via mobile
[4:35:58] app or by calling our office a
[4:36:00] picture of what, what the
[4:36:01] vehicles will look like that
[4:36:02] will provide the service that
[4:36:04] we have. Minivan. And then the
[4:36:05] high roof, uh, vans with a
[4:36:07] transit style door. It has an
[4:36:11] Ada lift in the back. So great.
[4:36:13] Will be the primary provider
[4:36:16] once we began service, uh, in
[4:36:18] in OCTOBER. Uh, like I said,
[4:36:18] great. We
[4:36:19] ll run four vans.
[4:36:19] Pat
[4:36:22] s will provide, uh, 2 to 3,
[4:36:23] uh, and we
[4:36:24] re still talking
[4:36:27] about about 2250 rides per
[4:36:29] month, right. For this program,
[4:36:31] the hours of operation. I know
[4:36:34] this was a point, uh, we spoke
[4:36:36] about back in FEBRUARY. We were
[4:36:37] able to go back and negotiate
[4:36:39] with, with pets that they will
[4:36:41] continue to provide the trips
[4:36:43] from 4 A.M. To 6 A.M., mainly
[4:36:45] dialysis patients. Uh, great.
[4:36:47] And pets will provide service
[4:36:49] from 6 to 6 and then great will
[4:36:51] provide the service from six
[4:36:53] until 830. Uh, on weekdays.
[4:36:55] Saturdays, same thing. Pets
[4:36:57] will provide the early morning,
[4:37:00] 4 to 9. Uh, we have different
[4:37:02] hours on Saturday, so the hours
[4:37:03] will match the service that
[4:37:06] great provides. 9 to 430 great.
[4:37:08] And pets? Pets if needed. And
[4:37:10] then pets will do 430 to 6 on
[4:37:13] Saturday. All right. We will
[4:37:16] notify customers, uh, of the
[4:37:18] change. That rate will be the
[4:37:19] primary provider. Pets will be
[4:37:21] the secondary provider, uh,
[4:37:23] through electronic mail, usps,
[4:37:25] uh, starting in SEPTEMBER, uh,
[4:37:26] all existing customers data
[4:37:28] will be exported into our new
[4:37:29] system. Uh, eligible
[4:37:31] eligibility requirements will
[4:37:35] not change. All right. Um,
[4:37:37] request that council would
[4:37:40] approve the fy 2627 interlocal
[4:37:42] agreement with Pitt County.
[4:37:44] All right, any questions?
[4:37:46] I did have a question. Did I
[4:37:48] understand you correctly to say
[4:37:52] that the new assessed cost is
[4:37:55] $27 per ride? Previously, it
[4:37:58] was $9. It was 18. It was 18.
[4:38:00] So $9 both ways. It was or was
[4:38:01] it $18? One way.
[4:38:02] , each way, one way.
[4:38:07] And so the increase to $27. Now
[4:38:07] one way.
[4:38:08] Correct.
[4:38:10] Um, and there
[4:38:11] s nothing that is
[4:38:13] there anything that we can do
[4:38:18] to, um, affect that cost for
[4:38:20] citizens.
[4:38:22] So the 27 the citizen won
[4:38:22] t pay
[4:38:23] that. So that
[4:38:24] s the cost that
[4:38:26] the city will pay the county
[4:38:27] per trip.
[4:38:28] City pays the county patrol.
[4:38:30] Okay. And so then for the
[4:38:32] actual rider, what does that
[4:38:32] look like with the actual.
[4:38:35] Rider today? That is still
[4:38:38] free? When when the city begins
[4:38:39] charging a fair and that
[4:38:39] s
[4:38:41] slated for at some point in
[4:38:43] OCTOBER. Okay. Then what the
[4:38:44] federal government allows is
[4:38:47] twice the normal fare. So if we
[4:38:49] were charging $1 for a bus
[4:38:51] fare, then the fare for a pet
[4:38:52] ride would be $2.
[4:38:54] It would be $2. Okay, so i
[4:38:54] m
[4:38:56] not thinking about the cost for
[4:38:56] a citizen. That
[4:38:59] s an outside of
[4:39:01] a particular program or
[4:39:03] whatnot. I was told that it was
[4:39:06] $9 per trip. I think that.
[4:39:08] Cost that a citizen of county
[4:39:11] pays to ride pets. Versus the
[4:39:12] city. They were riding it as a
[4:39:14] county. As a county citizen,
[4:39:17] riding the county system, not a
[4:39:19] Greenville resident using the
[4:39:21] Ada paratransit system. Because
[4:39:23] we work with the county to
[4:39:24] provide our Ada paratransit
[4:39:26] system within the city limits.
[4:39:29] Right. Okay, okay. So within
[4:39:30] the city limits, it
[4:39:32] s free.
[4:39:32] It
[4:39:35] s it is what you did.
[4:39:37] It went from $27 to free. Just
[4:39:38] like.
[4:39:38] Just like that.
[4:39:40] Yeah. In the does not pay. A
[4:39:42] customer does not pay today
[4:39:42] okay.
[4:39:44] That is what we are paying.
[4:39:45] We pay the county.
[4:39:45] The county.
[4:39:48] We will pay the county 27 per
[4:39:49] trip that they provide.
[4:39:50] Which previously was 18.
[4:39:52] Correct? Okay, I got it now.
[4:39:52] Okay.
[4:39:54] All right.
[4:39:55] Just like that. You got.
[4:39:56] It free.
[4:39:57] All you gotta do is ask.
[4:39:58] I think I got an understanding.
[4:39:59] Thank you.
[4:40:01] All right. Any other questions?
[4:40:01] Comments?
[4:40:02] No. I do.
[4:40:03] Want to say, um, I
[4:40:03] m so
[4:40:04] grateful and thankful that
[4:40:05] y
[4:40:06] all did make it. Um, the time
[4:40:08] change so that we can make sure
[4:40:09] that all of our citizens, um,
[4:40:11] can get to any appointments
[4:40:13] they MAY need to be. And with
[4:40:15] that, I move that we approve.
[4:40:16] Um, and I second that you
[4:40:16] re
[4:40:19] going with, um, being specific
[4:40:22] about those citizens that are
[4:40:24] impacted by, um, dialysis and
[4:40:26] need to get to their
[4:40:27] appointments. Yes. So we
[4:40:27] re
[4:40:28] greatly appreciative.
[4:40:28] Of that.
[4:40:29] Thank you. So we second in the
[4:40:30] motion or second in the
[4:40:31] comment..
[4:40:31] Second and.
[4:40:32] Both awesome.
[4:40:34] I like that. All right. Motion
[4:40:36] been made by Councilmember
[4:40:37] Jones. Second by uh, Mayor Pro
[4:40:38] Tem Forman any other
[4:40:39] discussion?
[4:40:41] I did want to ask mayor if we
[4:40:43] could get an update at our
[4:40:45] next, um, workshop about the
[4:40:48] rollout of the shelters. Um, I
[4:40:49] would love to be able, for all
[4:40:51] of us to know together where we
[4:40:53] are with that rollout and how
[4:40:55] many more we have to go. Um,
[4:40:56] just to get some clarity.
[4:40:56] On that.
[4:40:56] We
[4:40:58] ll do. Thank you.
[4:40:59] All right. Any other
[4:41:00] discussion.
[4:41:01] When you say shelter, don
[4:41:01] t
[4:41:03] offer the benches.
[4:41:04] That for.
[4:41:05] Sure.
[4:41:08] And the bars that need to be
[4:41:09] removed.
[4:41:10] We have we
[4:41:11] ve already started
[4:41:12] removing those bars. Right.
[4:41:13] Yes, yes, yes.
[4:41:13] Okay.
[4:41:14] Thank you.
[4:41:15] I want.
[4:41:16] Welcome those. And I
[4:41:16] ve only
[4:41:18] seen a couple that are left.
[4:41:19] We put we put a few in the
[4:41:21] middle of our chairs.
[4:41:22] At one. This time we were
[4:41:25] walking. All right. Any other
[4:41:27] discussion? All those in favor
[4:41:29] say aye. Aye. Those opposed say
[4:41:29] nay.
[4:41:31] Motion passes five zero.
[4:41:31] Let
[4:41:34] s move on to item number
[4:41:36] 12. Number 12. Final real item.
[4:41:38] Approval to purchase 188
[4:41:39] vehicle for the City of
[4:41:40] Greenville and the Transit
[4:41:41] Division. Turn it back over to
[4:41:43] MR. Davidson.
[4:41:45] Thank you. All right. Request
[4:41:48] to purchase 188 paratransit
[4:41:49] van. So this would be a van
[4:41:51] matching the hot top van that
[4:41:52] we saw. Council previously
[4:41:54] approved the purchase of three
[4:41:55] back in FEBRUARY. So this would
[4:41:57] be adding, uh, another Ada van.
[4:42:02] So cost of that van,
[4:42:07] $123,371.76. Funding will come
[4:42:10] from 85% from our fta funding,
[4:42:13] 15% from general fund. That
[4:42:14] s
[4:42:15] what the van will look like.
[4:42:17] Um, we request that council
[4:42:18] approve the purchase of one Ada
[4:42:20] accessible paratransit van
[4:42:22] using fta and general funds.
[4:42:25] All right. Any questions?
[4:42:26] Motions.
[4:42:26] I
[4:42:27] ll move.
[4:42:28] All right. Most of you MAY, but
[4:42:30] Council Jones, second by
[4:42:31] Councilmember Robison. Any
[4:42:33] other discussion? All those in
[4:42:34] favor say aye. Aye, aye. Those
[4:42:35] opposed say nay.
[4:42:36] Motion passes five zero.
[4:42:37] Now what? Everybody
[4:42:37] s been
[4:42:39] waiting for. Everybody in the
[4:42:40] audience has been waiting for
[4:42:41] the city manager
[4:42:42] s report.
[4:42:43] Uh, you know, it was going to
[4:42:44] be a long one tonight, but I
[4:42:46] will make it quick. I just want
[4:42:49] to wish my wife a happy
[4:42:49] anniversary. We
[4:42:50] ll be
[4:42:52] celebrating our 34th wedding
[4:42:54] anniversary on Sunday, and I
[4:42:54] can
[4:42:55] t wait to have a nice,
[4:42:57] quiet meal together at Taco
[4:42:59] Bell. Yes.
[4:43:01] Hey, has anybody nominated her
[4:43:04] as a saint yet? Saint Pam.
[4:43:05] Saint.
[4:43:05] Pam.
[4:43:07] 34 years. Yeah. Make some else.
[4:43:08] Yeah.
[4:43:10] Oh, man.
[4:43:11] Holy cow.
[4:43:12] She likes punishment, doesn
[4:43:12] t
[4:43:13] she?
[4:43:14] Yes. We
[4:43:15] ll be enjoying our
[4:43:18] nacho Bell Grande. Uh, Sunday
[4:43:18] evening.
[4:43:19] What
[4:43:19] s up? What
[4:43:20] s the drink
[4:43:20] that they have? Like they
[4:43:20] ve
[4:43:21] had like an orange drink or
[4:43:23] something. Baja blast or
[4:43:25] something. Get her a hey, get
[4:43:26] her a bar blast to go with
[4:43:26] that..
[4:43:30] Free refills. That
[4:43:32] s all I got,
[4:43:32] man.
[4:43:32] We
[4:43:33] re going south quick. All
[4:43:35] right, our city city attorney
[4:43:35] s
[4:43:36] report quickly.
[4:43:37] Mayor and council, shout out to
[4:43:39] MR. Scott Dixon. Uh, he was
[4:43:41] reappointed to serve on the
[4:43:43] North Carolina League of
[4:43:45] Municipalities. Uh, Legislative
[4:43:46] Policy Committee. So shout out
[4:43:48] to Scott for that.
[4:43:49] Congratulations.
[4:43:52] Congratulations, Scott.
[4:43:54] All right. Maybe this might be
[4:43:57] the most anticipated, uh,
[4:43:59] comment of the night. Our city
[4:43:59] clerk
[4:44:01] s report.
[4:44:01] I
[4:44:02] m gonna keep this really
[4:44:03] short. Happy birthday to my
[4:44:04] baby sister, Frannie. She
[4:44:05] s 38,
[4:44:06] but still a baby to me.
[4:44:08] My baby sister. Oh, okay.
[4:44:10] Happy birthday. Thank you.
[4:44:10] That
[4:44:12] s awesome. Where are we
[4:44:13] going? Are we. Are we gonna
[4:44:15] start tonight? Okay.
[4:44:16] Um, MAY I rehearse this
[4:44:21] earlier? I have no comment.
[4:44:22] Uh, just, uh, congratulations
[4:44:23] to our three teams that we
[4:44:25] recognized earlier, and
[4:44:26] everybody have a great rest of
[4:44:27] your week.
[4:44:29] Awesome. Councilmember wills.
[4:44:31] Thank you. Mayor. Um, I
[4:44:33] attended the Chamber of
[4:44:33] Commerce
[4:44:35] s, um, leadership
[4:44:37] conference earlier today. That
[4:44:38] was wonderful to see all the
[4:44:39] ladies come together. It was
[4:44:42] very empowering. Uh, so kudos
[4:44:43] to them. They do such good
[4:44:44] work. And so it was a wonderful
[4:44:46] event to attend. And, uh,
[4:44:49] praying for a safe, um, school
[4:44:51] year for all of the teachers
[4:44:53] and administrators and students
[4:44:54] going back to school with pay
[4:44:56] county schools. Um, and I think
[4:44:56] that
[4:44:57] s all I have. Mayor.
[4:44:58] Thank you. All right. Thank you
[4:44:59] very much, Councilmember
[4:45:00] Robinson.
[4:45:01] Uh, I just want to echo the
[4:45:02] comments earlier. First,
[4:45:04] congratulations to Glen Wooten
[4:45:05] for serving us for three
[4:45:05] decades. That
[4:45:06] s amazing.
[4:45:08] Congratulations to those three
[4:45:10] teams. I mean, I really hear
[4:45:11] the Lady Swarm are just
[4:45:13] incredible players and coaches.
[4:45:14] I appreciate you volunteering
[4:45:15] your time and being a role
[4:45:17] model for these kids. It means
[4:45:18] more than you probably ever
[4:45:20] know in your lifetime, but
[4:45:20] they
[4:45:21] ll carry those lessons
[4:45:22] forward with them. And if
[4:45:22] you
[4:45:23] re watching and you have a
[4:45:23] team that
[4:45:24] s doing well, please
[4:45:25] let us know so we can have them
[4:45:29] down here at City Hall. Um, uh,
[4:45:29] let
[4:45:31] s see. Also, thank you to
[4:45:33] everybody and staff and Valerie
[4:45:36] for a smiley mug of flowers
[4:45:39] and, uh, a gift certificate out
[4:45:40] to Boa. I mean, because that
[4:45:41] first two weeks, I was not
[4:45:43] smiling after knee replacement,
[4:45:45] and I looked up and my wife put
[4:45:45] it right in front of me. She
[4:45:47] said. She said, do what the cup
[4:45:49] says and smile. And so thank
[4:45:49] y
[4:45:50] all for doing that because I
[4:45:51] was not smiling the first two
[4:45:52] weeks. But thank you all for
[4:45:53] thinking of me during that
[4:45:56] time.
[4:45:58] Good. All right. Mayor Pro tem
[4:45:59] for me.
[4:46:00] Uh.
[4:46:02] I will mirror the comments that
[4:46:04] were made and elevate again.
[4:46:06] The teams that were here and
[4:46:07] the many teams that we have in
[4:46:10] this city on all sides that are
[4:46:11] functioning in excellence and
[4:46:13] putting in hard work to make
[4:46:15] these accomplishments. So
[4:46:15] that
[4:46:15] s all.
[4:46:18] All right. I echo what everyone
[4:46:20] else said. Now I need a motion
[4:46:20] to adjourn.
[4:46:21] Motion to adjourn.
[4:46:22] Second.
[4:46:24] I need a motion been made by
[4:46:25] Councilmember Robinson. Second
[4:46:26] by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. All
[4:46:27] those in favor say aye. Aye.
[4:46:28] Those opposed. Nay, nay.
[4:46:30] Passes five zero.
[4:59:49] We are adjourned.
[4:59:50] More ways to save.
[5:02:44] Good. All right.
[5:02:45] All right.
[5:02:46] Good afternoon.
[5:02:47] I'd like to welcome everyone to
[5:02:48] the AUGUST 10th, 2026 workshop.
[5:02:52] I'm mayor pj Connolly for
[5:02:54] presiding over today's workshop.
[5:02:54] First I call on our city
[5:02:55] clerk for the roll call.
[5:02:58] Yes, sir.
[5:02:58] Mayor Connolly here.
[5:02:59] Mayor Pro Tem Forman here.
[5:03:01] Councilmember Jones here.
[5:03:02] Councilmember Murray here.
[5:03:03] All right.
[5:03:04] Councilmember Sculley has let
[5:03:05] us know and you will not be
[5:03:06] attending this evening.
[5:03:06] Councilmember Robinson here.
[5:03:08] Councilmember Willis here.
[5:03:09] All right.
[5:03:10] Here.
[5:03:10] Come on.
[5:03:11] Thank you very much.
[5:03:11] We'll now move on to
[5:03:12] approval of the agenda.
[5:03:13] Any recommendations?
[5:03:15] No changes.
[5:03:15] All right.
[5:03:16] Do I have a motion to
[5:03:16] approve the agenda?
[5:03:17] So moved.
[5:03:18] Thank you.
[5:03:19] All right.
[5:03:20] Motion's been made by
[5:03:20] Councilmember Erickson.
[5:03:21] Mayor Pro Tem Forman, seconded
[5:03:21] by Councilmember Jones.
[5:03:23] All those in favor say aye.
[5:03:25] Aye. Opposed.
[5:03:26] Any motion passes five zero.
[5:03:26] All right, we move
[5:03:27] on to new business.
[5:03:28] Item number one.
[5:03:29] Thank you.
[5:03:30] Mayor. Item number
[5:03:30] one is an overview of.
[5:03:31] The relationship between the
[5:03:31] city of Greenville and the
[5:03:32] housing authority for
[5:03:34] the city of Greenville.
[5:03:35] And the assistant city manager,
[5:03:36] Danny Alexander, will come
[5:03:37] forward to give
[5:03:39] the presentation.
[5:03:51] Good afternoon, mayor
[5:03:54] and city council.
[5:03:54] As the city manager said, I am
[5:03:56] standing before you today to
[5:03:58] provide an overview of our
[5:04:00] relationship with the Housing
[5:04:01] Housing Authority of
[5:04:03] the City of Greenville.
[5:04:05] And so we just want to kind of
[5:04:05] set the stage in terms of why
[5:04:12] we're here.
[5:04:12] Um, the city has seen a large
[5:04:13] influx in complaints that have
[5:04:14] required a lot of involvement
[5:04:17] from city staff to ultimately
[5:04:20] get to resolution.
[5:04:21] Um, and in JUNE of 2026,
[5:04:22] we actually received
[5:04:23] correspondence from the
[5:04:26] Department of Housing and Urban
[5:04:27] Development regarding some
[5:04:30] noncompliance with inspections
[5:04:33] dating back to 2024.
[5:04:34] Um, these were life
[5:04:35] threatening, um, deficiencies
[5:04:39] that could lead to a high risk
[5:04:40] of death if they
[5:04:41] weren't resolved.
[5:04:42] And we were able to get
[5:04:42] confirmation from hud in JULY
[5:04:43] of this year that the Housing
[5:04:46] Authority is now in compliance
[5:04:47] with all of those
[5:04:49] outstanding violations.
[5:04:50] Um, based on that background,
[5:04:52] in JUNE, City Council requested
[5:04:54] that we provide some
[5:04:57] information about our
[5:04:58] relationship with the housing
[5:04:59] authority and how, um, there
[5:05:00] might be some overlap
[5:05:03] or how we collide.
[5:05:03] Uh, they wanted to learn about
[5:05:05] elevated concerns regarding
[5:05:06] substandard housing conditions,
[5:05:09] and also wanted to talk about
[5:05:10] tools where we could mitigate
[5:05:12] maybe some of the issues we
[5:05:13] were seeing and how we might
[5:05:15] be able to get more involved to
[5:05:17] get our arms around that.
[5:05:18] Um, so just want to kind of set
[5:05:19] some, um, foundation in terms
[5:05:20] of the purpose of the
[5:05:23] housing Authority.
[5:05:24] It is to promote safe and
[5:05:25] sanitary public housing here in
[5:05:27] the city.
[5:05:28] The housing authority is a
[5:05:29] creature of statute
[5:05:30] and local resolution.
[5:05:30] So chapter 157 of the North
[5:05:32] Carolina General Statutes, um,
[5:05:36] really lays the authority in
[5:05:36] terms of this particular,
[5:05:37] um, allowance.
[5:05:38] And so within that law, either
[5:05:41] the city can run the housing
[5:05:42] authority, the redevelopment
[5:05:45] Commission can run the housing
[5:05:45] authority, or we can have
[5:05:48] an actual housing authority.
[5:05:49] Um, and so in MAY of 1961, the
[5:05:50] then city Council adopted a
[5:05:52] resolution creating
[5:05:55] the housing authority.
[5:05:58] It was a three two vote amongst
[5:05:58] the council members
[5:05:59] at that time.
[5:06:00] Um, and they there have been
[5:06:01] some subsequent resolutions
[5:06:02] that have come out from
[5:06:05] council, um, solely increasing
[5:06:09] the membership on the board of
[5:06:09] up to now we're up
[5:06:11] to seven members.
[5:06:11] Um, another layer in terms of
[5:06:13] the housing Authority is the
[5:06:16] oversight from the us
[5:06:17] Department of Housing
[5:06:18] and Urban Development.
[5:06:18] They provide the majority of
[5:06:19] the Housing Authority funding
[5:06:23] to be able to function.
[5:06:24] They do have some regulation
[5:06:24] over the housing authority.
[5:06:25] I mentioned the, um, inspire
[5:06:27] inspections at the beginning,
[5:06:27] and then they've got some
[5:06:30] regulation over their
[5:06:30] programming that they're
[5:06:32] implementing for the residents,
[5:06:33] some additional information
[5:06:34] about the structure.
[5:06:37] They do have a
[5:06:39] seven member board.
[5:06:39] As I mentioned, that board was
[5:06:41] created by the city council.
[5:06:42] City Council is selecting or
[5:06:45] appointing membership based on
[5:06:49] a rotation.
[5:06:50] Um, their board members are
[5:06:51] eligible for a single
[5:06:53] five year term.
[5:06:53] This was a recent update in
[5:06:55] our rules of procedure, the
[5:06:56] council's Rules of procedure,
[5:06:58] in FEBRUARY of 2024.
[5:06:58] Up until that point, they were
[5:07:01] allowed an unlimited number of
[5:07:01] terms, and we were seeing
[5:07:04] people sit on the board, um,
[5:07:04] for multiple stints, um, many
[5:07:07] decades in some instances.
[5:07:09] Um, so like I said, that rule
[5:07:11] did change in FEBRUARY of 2024.
[5:07:13] There is one exception to the
[5:07:15] rule in terms of the authority
[5:07:16] for the city council to
[5:07:19] appoint, and that is the
[5:07:20] resident commissioner.
[5:07:21] They are first elected by the
[5:07:22] Resident Council, which is
[5:07:23] solely run by the
[5:07:26] Housing Authority.
[5:07:26] And once they are selected,
[5:07:28] then the City Council moves
[5:07:28] forward with the appointment
[5:07:31] of that particular individual.
[5:07:32] Um Commissioner cannot be a
[5:07:34] city official and that is by
[5:07:39] state statute.
[5:07:40] They are.
[5:07:41] Once they are seated, they are
[5:07:41] then responsible for hiring a
[5:07:42] qualified executive director to
[5:07:44] really be able to handle those
[5:07:47] day to day operations.
[5:07:48] And as of right now, their
[5:07:49] Board of commissioners
[5:07:50] meets monthly.
[5:07:51] It's the last Tuesday
[5:07:52] of each month at 6:00.
[5:07:54] So a little bit of background
[5:07:55] about the residents council.
[5:07:58] As I mentioned, this is
[5:08:01] facilitated completely by the
[5:08:04] housing authority.
[5:08:04] Um, the city does not have
[5:08:05] anything to do with this
[5:08:07] particular body.
[5:08:08] Um, at this point in time,
[5:08:09] it is not operational.
[5:08:10] Um, each, um, like I said,
[5:08:12] resident Commissioner is
[5:08:16] elected by this particular body.
[5:08:17] The term for our current
[5:08:19] resident commissioner expired
[5:08:22] in 2025.
[5:08:23] Um, and we requested for a
[5:08:23] nomination for an additional,
[5:08:28] um, resident commissioner.
[5:08:30] And as of today, we have not
[5:08:31] received that, um,
[5:08:31] that that nomination.
[5:08:32] And the current commissioner
[5:08:34] is holding over there in a
[5:08:35] holdover pattern unless
[5:08:37] and until somebody else is
[5:08:40] appointed in sworn in.
[5:08:41] Their membership includes
[5:08:43] people throughout
[5:08:44] their communities.
[5:08:45] Everybody who is named on a
[5:08:46] lease as a head of household is
[5:08:46] a member of this particular
[5:08:49] body, and they're able to vote.
[5:08:51] And then outside of that
[5:08:54] head of household, those are
[5:08:54] non-voting members, but they
[5:08:56] still have a voice in terms of
[5:08:58] that particular council.
[5:08:59] These are just an overview of
[5:09:00] the initial goals of why the
[5:09:03] residents Council was created
[5:09:06] to be able to create employment
[5:09:07] opportunities, promote job
[5:09:10] training, education, healthy
[5:09:11] lifestyles, provide an
[5:09:14] opportunity for public housing
[5:09:14] residents to learn skills and
[5:09:17] the operation of businesses,
[5:09:18] foster pride in public
[5:09:20] neighborhoods, and then combat
[5:09:21] community deterioration
[5:09:24] and juvenile delinquency.
[5:09:24] Like I said, these were just
[5:09:26] the foundational goals in which
[5:09:27] that particular
[5:09:29] council was created.
[5:09:31] There's one other major
[5:09:32] component in terms of how the
[5:09:34] housing authority operates,
[5:09:37] and that is through their
[5:09:38] Greenville Housing
[5:09:39] Development Corporation.
[5:09:40] It is exactly what
[5:09:41] it says it is.
[5:09:42] It's an opportunity for them
[5:09:43] to hold a nonprofit that is
[5:09:45] intended to assist homeowners,
[5:09:48] homebuyers and renters to be
[5:09:48] able to acquire and retain
[5:09:51] a home of their own.
[5:09:52] But I think one of the core
[5:09:54] principles of this is it allows
[5:09:55] the housing authority, the
[5:09:57] development corporation, to
[5:09:58] borrow money without it working
[5:10:00] against the actual housing
[5:10:01] authority such that it's
[5:10:03] a liability in debt.
[5:10:04] It gives them coverage
[5:10:06] essentially, for them to be
[5:10:07] able to go out and get money,
[5:10:08] loan money, what have you.
[5:10:09] So in terms of their portfolio,
[5:10:10] this information is provided to
[5:10:14] their commissioners at each of
[5:10:17] their monthly meetings, based
[5:10:20] on their most recent report
[5:10:21] that they submitted to the city.
[5:10:22] They've got 714 units in the
[5:10:23] public housing portfolio, about
[5:10:24] 156 units in their non-public
[5:10:27] housing portfolio, 920 units
[5:10:32] with private landlords.
[5:10:33] Those are their their contracts
[5:10:33] where they allow for, um,
[5:10:34] private landlords to be in the
[5:10:37] business and provide housing
[5:10:38] under the section eight program
[5:10:40] and then 110 units for project
[5:10:44] based rental assistance.
[5:10:44] So typically you see those
[5:10:45] when you've got these large
[5:10:46] development projects and they
[5:10:47] attach vouchers to units, um,
[5:10:48] allowing low moderate income
[5:10:51] individuals to, to stay in
[5:10:54] those particular units.
[5:10:55] Um, they, they as you can see,
[5:10:55] they've got a large portfolio.
[5:10:57] A lot of their properties are
[5:10:59] in need of significant repairs.
[5:11:00] They're dating back to being
[5:11:02] built in the 60s when the
[5:11:03] housing authority
[5:11:06] started in 1961.
[5:11:06] Um, and so a lot of them,
[5:11:07] unfortunately, are, um, dealing
[5:11:10] with substandard conditions and
[5:11:13] they do not meet the minimum
[5:11:13] housing standards that the city
[5:11:15] applies through its ordinances.
[5:11:17] Um, as of right now,
[5:11:20] we've got 43 active cases.
[5:11:24] Um, they're initiated
[5:11:25] throughout many of
[5:11:25] the neighborhoods.
[5:11:26] Uh, a lot of them are tied to
[5:11:27] ac issues, electrical issues,
[5:11:29] smoke detectors, leaks, uh,
[5:11:31] pest infestations, mold really,
[5:11:32] really issues that you see
[5:11:35] across the board in terms of
[5:11:39] what they have going on.
[5:11:40] So kind of shifting gears,
[5:11:41] wanted to give, like I said,
[5:11:44] that foundational background
[5:11:47] piece, uh, to talk really
[5:11:48] through the regulation
[5:11:50] and the authority.
[5:11:51] And as I mentioned at the
[5:11:53] beginning of the presentation,
[5:11:53] the core authority for the
[5:11:55] housing authority comes from
[5:11:56] chapter 5157 of the North
[5:11:58] Carolina General Statutes.
[5:11:59] Um, and they've got about 30
[5:12:02] or so powers that are laid out
[5:12:06] within that statute.
[5:12:07] And I've gone through and
[5:12:08] you'll see them in
[5:12:09] the next few threads.
[5:12:09] I'm not going to go through
[5:12:10] each of them in detail.
[5:12:10] Um, but I will
[5:12:12] highlight some of them.
[5:12:13] And so first and foremost,
[5:12:14] investigate into living
[5:12:15] dwelling housing conditions and
[5:12:16] into the means and methods of
[5:12:19] improving such conditions.
[5:12:20] That's their core.
[5:12:21] Um, one of their core
[5:12:21] principles determining unsafe,
[5:12:22] insanitary dwelling or housing
[5:12:25] conditions, um, exercising
[5:12:29] functions for housing projects.
[5:12:30] so they should be in the
[5:12:30] business of development to be
[5:12:33] able to provide affordable
[5:12:34] housing, low income
[5:12:34] opportunities.
[5:12:35] They've got the ability to
[5:12:37] construct and prove alter all
[5:12:38] those things that come
[5:12:40] along with with development.
[5:12:42] Um, arrange cooperation
[5:12:42] with local governments.
[5:12:45] I've highlighted this because,
[5:12:47] um, a little bit later in the
[5:12:48] presentation, I will make
[5:12:50] mention of a cooperation
[5:12:51] agreement that we signed with
[5:12:52] the Housing Authority in 1961
[5:12:55] when it was initiated.
[5:12:56] Um, that really deals with
[5:12:57] us cooperating for public
[5:12:57] infrastructure, public
[5:13:00] services, land use, um, what
[5:13:02] have you.
[5:13:03] Um, and then the other bullet
[5:13:04] I'll highlight, um, that's
[5:13:04] really tied to them making
[5:13:06] information available to us,
[5:13:07] um, in terms of conditions, um,
[5:13:10] existing, which are dangerous
[5:13:12] to public health, safety,
[5:13:15] welfare, morals, what have you.
[5:13:16] And so, like I said, they're
[5:13:18] they are required to provide us
[5:13:19] with information regarding
[5:13:22] those types of conditions, um,
[5:13:25] when we request it.
[5:13:26] Um, in terms of, um, I
[5:13:27] mentioned development, they're
[5:13:29] able to conduct property
[5:13:32] transactions, and then they are
[5:13:33] able to exercise a slew of
[5:13:35] administrative functions along
[5:13:37] the lines of making
[5:13:40] bylaws, borrowing money.
[5:13:43] They've got subpoena powers.
[5:13:45] They can sue and be sued.
[5:13:45] Um, so all those really
[5:13:47] administrative functions that
[5:13:47] come along with you running,
[5:13:49] uh, an entity or, or
[5:13:50] organization that's really
[5:13:53] quasi judicial in nature.
[5:13:56] So in terms of where the
[5:13:57] city fits in with the housing
[5:14:02] authority, first and foremost,
[5:14:05] the city council liaison is
[5:14:06] appointed after each
[5:14:09] municipal election.
[5:14:09] Um, this appointment
[5:14:10] is made by the mayor.
[5:14:11] Uh, the current liaison
[5:14:13] is Mayor Pro Tem Forman.
[5:14:15] We engage with residents who
[5:14:18] are experiencing experiencing
[5:14:19] challenges with their
[5:14:22] housing conditions.
[5:14:22] Um, as I mentioned, the, uh,
[5:14:23] many issues with ac heat.
[5:14:25] We've gotten a lot of
[5:14:28] complaints recently about bills
[5:14:29] and rent statements, mold
[5:14:31] issues, pest infestations, and
[5:14:33] we really are in the business
[5:14:36] of trying to work through
[5:14:37] solutions for those particular
[5:14:39] clientele because first and
[5:14:39] foremost, they are members of
[5:14:42] our community, and they deserve
[5:14:42] the same access to resources
[5:14:44] and assistance that anybody
[5:14:45] else in the community would
[5:14:48] be eligible to receive.
[5:14:48] So when we get calls, we really
[5:14:50] do try to pass that information
[5:14:51] along to their boards so that
[5:14:53] we can raise some awareness and
[5:14:54] ultimately get to a place where
[5:14:57] we can get it resolved in the
[5:15:01] best interest of the citizen.
[5:15:01] Um, I mentioned the
[5:15:03] cooperation agreement earlier.
[5:15:04] Um, like I said, the
[5:15:06] original was signed in 1961.
[5:15:09] Really dealing with public
[5:15:10] infrastructure, public services.
[5:15:11] We have since had 3 or 4
[5:15:12] amendments solely tied to
[5:15:16] increasing the number of units.
[5:15:19] So I think we started with
[5:15:19] about 225 units in
[5:15:20] the 1961 agreement.
[5:15:21] Um, and they steadily increased
[5:15:23] over the years as they continue
[5:15:24] to build public
[5:15:27] housing neighborhoods.
[5:15:28] And so that is, like I said,
[5:15:29] that is the one thing that was
[5:15:30] changing amongst
[5:15:32] all the amendments.
[5:15:33] Um, and ultimately, like I
[5:15:35] said, the last amendment was in
[5:15:40] 1981, I believe.
[5:15:41] Um, so we have not evaluated
[5:15:42] that agreement since that time.
[5:15:44] Um, we, we meet as
[5:15:46] managers, um, as necessary.
[5:15:47] So with their leadership team
[5:15:50] and the city's leadership team
[5:15:53] as things come up.
[5:15:53] Um, we, like I said, we'll
[5:15:54] schedule meetings, talk through
[5:15:55] it, see if we can't find
[5:15:57] a workable solution.
[5:15:58] Um, I typically attend
[5:15:59] the monthly board meetings
[5:16:01] alongside Mayor Pro Tem Forman
[5:16:03] just so we can stay in the
[5:16:04] loop, provide information both
[5:16:06] ways, and really be able to
[5:16:07] keep our finger on the pulse in
[5:16:10] terms of what's what's going on
[5:16:13] at the Housing authority.
[5:16:13] Um, I've mentioned
[5:16:14] code enforcement.
[5:16:15] There's been a lot of
[5:16:17] engagement in that, that
[5:16:20] particular arena recently.
[5:16:20] Um, especially with that notice
[5:16:22] we received from hud and Judon
[5:16:23] that that really, um,
[5:16:24] increased awareness for us.
[5:16:26] Um, when the feds reached out
[5:16:29] to us to let them let us know
[5:16:31] what was going on.
[5:16:31] Um, affordable housing
[5:16:32] development, our most recent
[5:16:33] development would have been the
[5:16:35] Arlington Trace, where council
[5:16:35] actually had to approve bonds
[5:16:37] for that particular project.
[5:16:38] There are project vouchers
[5:16:39] connected to that, um,
[5:16:43] development as well.
[5:16:43] Um, and so we are having
[5:16:44] additional conversations now in
[5:16:46] terms of some additional
[5:16:49] affordable housing development
[5:16:49] that we're trying to
[5:16:51] to move down the pike.
[5:16:52] Um, we approve their
[5:16:53] consistency statements.
[5:16:54] Um, they're required to be in
[5:16:57] line with the city's annual
[5:16:58] action plan and five
[5:17:01] year consolidated plan.
[5:17:01] Um, and so their plan has to
[5:17:03] come through us in terms of us
[5:17:04] signing off on it, to say that
[5:17:07] it is consistent with what we
[5:17:07] have laid out in
[5:17:09] terms of, um, housing.
[5:17:12] Um, and then the the last piece
[5:17:13] up there is actually
[5:17:14] it's bond issuance.
[5:17:15] Um, and like I said, the most
[5:17:17] recent one would have been for
[5:17:19] Arlington Trace.
[5:17:19] And that all comes
[5:17:20] through City Council.
[5:17:21] Some additional
[5:17:22] involvement in 2024.
[5:17:26] I did an extensive evaluation
[5:17:28] of the support that we were
[5:17:31] providing to the
[5:17:34] Housing Authority.
[5:17:34] Um, just to understand what
[5:17:36] types of in-kind services we
[5:17:40] were providing them and be able
[5:17:41] to attach monetary
[5:17:42] amounts to it.
[5:17:42] Um, the largest piece that
[5:17:44] came out of this is within the
[5:17:45] cooperation agreement
[5:17:47] that was signed in 1961.
[5:17:48] There is some language in there
[5:17:49] that has been interpreted to be
[5:17:52] able to provide rescue services
[5:17:55] at no charge to all of the
[5:18:00] housing authorities units.
[5:18:01] Um, that has since
[5:18:02] been in re-interpreted.
[5:18:02] Um, and we're evaluating that,
[5:18:04] but that's costing us annually
[5:18:08] around $163,000.
[5:18:09] There are.
[5:18:11] Things.
[5:18:12] Costing us around $163,000
[5:18:12] annually in terms of us
[5:18:13] providing that, that
[5:18:16] particular service to them.
[5:18:17] Um, information
[5:18:19] technology services.
[5:18:20] They use our fiber systems,
[5:18:21] our telephone lines.
[5:18:25] Um, and.
[5:18:26] They're paying for it in some
[5:18:26] instances, but it
[5:18:28] is not at a cost.
[5:18:29] That would be, um, more
[5:18:30] expensive because they're
[5:18:30] tacked into our particular
[5:18:33] services that we're providing.
[5:18:34] When you break down like the
[5:18:36] rescue services, is that like,
[5:18:39] is that individual, individual
[5:18:41] services for each of the units,
[5:18:43] or is this like a larger
[5:18:46] complex where we're offering
[5:18:47] like dumpster dumpster services
[5:18:50] and typically and and typically
[5:18:52] those tenants do they still
[5:18:54] get individual bills for
[5:18:59] electricity for those units.
[5:19:01] They do so.
[5:19:02] So essentially it's just
[5:19:03] saving the tenants money.
[5:19:04] It's not really being a benefit
[5:19:05] to the I mean, I guess the
[5:19:05] tenants I mean the housing
[5:19:08] authority will benefit because
[5:19:09] they can, I guess, advertise
[5:19:11] that they have unless the
[5:19:14] housing authority.
[5:19:15] Works to choose to pick it up
[5:19:16] on behalf of their tenants.
[5:19:16] But typically it's not like
[5:19:19] they would be charged directly
[5:19:22] for that fee.
[5:19:23] That's being passed along to
[5:19:24] the people that are living in
[5:19:26] the actual units.
[5:19:27] Um, in terms of public safety,
[5:19:28] there are two officers that
[5:19:32] cover the housing
[5:19:35] authorities neighborhoods.
[5:19:36] The city covers the cost of
[5:19:38] one, and the housing authority
[5:19:41] covers the cost of the other.
[5:19:42] There are roughly about
[5:19:42] $80,000 per officer.
[5:19:44] Um, one of the other
[5:19:46] angles is the ShotSpotter.
[5:19:47] We recently renewed that
[5:19:49] contract, and the Housing
[5:19:50] Authority is paying about 25%
[5:19:52] of the total overall cost, and
[5:19:57] that's roughly about 65, $66,000
[5:19:58] that they're paying for that
[5:20:00] cost amongst, um, the city ecu
[5:20:03] Housing Authority and then
[5:20:06] Pitt County Public Schools.
[5:20:06] So it's for individuals or for
[5:20:08] entities that are helping to
[5:20:08] cover the cost of that
[5:20:10] particular contract.
[5:20:11] Um, they've got access to our
[5:20:13] fuel station at our public
[5:20:16] services complex.
[5:20:17] They pay the same cost that
[5:20:17] the city pays in terms of being
[5:20:21] able to fuel their vehicles.
[5:20:22] And up until JANUARY of this
[5:20:22] year, they were, um, using our
[5:20:29] health insurance.
[5:20:30] And so they have now gone out
[5:20:30] and secured their own plan, um,
[5:20:31] in terms of that
[5:20:33] particular component.
[5:20:34] So with all of that
[5:20:35] information, one of the big
[5:20:38] things that council requested
[5:20:41] was for us to be able to
[5:20:42] evaluate any additional places
[5:20:44] where we could provide some,
[5:20:48] some oversight, um, and be able
[5:20:49] to keep our fingers
[5:20:50] on the pulse.
[5:20:51] Um, and so statutorily out of
[5:20:52] chapter 157, there are a couple
[5:20:56] of angles that I want to
[5:20:57] provide you all
[5:20:57] for consideration.
[5:20:58] Discussion. Um, for us to be
[5:20:59] able to determine what next
[5:21:02] steps look like.
[5:21:03] Um, so first and foremost,
[5:21:03] the statute requires that they
[5:21:07] provide an annual report.
[5:21:08] And I will say that the annual
[5:21:09] reports have been
[5:21:11] fairly consistent.
[5:21:12] Um, they're filing those
[5:21:13] with the city regularly.
[5:21:14] There was a time in 2008 when
[5:21:16] there board at the time voted
[5:21:18] to in the practice of coming
[5:21:21] before council and just simply
[5:21:25] submitting a written report.
[5:21:25] Um, and so, like I said,
[5:21:26] they've been consistent in
[5:21:28] submitting those reports.
[5:21:29] Last report we
[5:21:29] received was in 2025,
[5:21:30] and we anticipate receiving
[5:21:31] another one in SEPTEMBER,
[5:21:33] OCTOBER of this year in terms
[5:21:35] of their annual activities.
[5:21:39] I've talked a lot about
[5:21:39] the cooperation agreement.
[5:21:43] This is another opportunity
[5:21:44] that we have, and that is to
[5:21:45] look at the language and
[5:21:48] the cooperation agreement.
[5:21:48] Like I said, it was
[5:21:50] first signed in 1961.
[5:21:50] So being able to look at
[5:21:52] that agreement and adjust
[5:21:53] accordingly for where we
[5:21:56] are, make sure we have the
[5:21:57] appropriate interpretations
[5:21:58] for how we're implementing, um,
[5:22:02] activities between us.
[5:22:02] Um, some of the other um,
[5:22:04] examples in terms of those
[5:22:05] amendments, I mentioned that it
[5:22:07] of course included increasing
[5:22:10] the number of units.
[5:22:11] Um, but it allowed for the
[5:22:12] making of loans and the
[5:22:13] facilitation of the
[5:22:14] rehabilitation program, and
[5:22:15] that facilitation of the
[5:22:16] rehabilitation program came up
[5:22:18] in 1981.
[5:22:19] That was that was one of the
[5:22:20] reasons for that particular,
[5:22:22] um, amendment.
[5:22:23] Um, one of the other um,
[5:22:24] statutory allowances deals with
[5:22:27] the budgeting and
[5:22:30] accounting piece.
[5:22:31] And essentially the state
[5:22:32] law provides that the housing
[5:22:34] authorities, um, budget,
[5:22:36] finances, all of those
[5:22:37] activities can function as a
[5:22:40] public enterprise of the city.
[5:22:41] Um, and so what that would look
[5:22:44] like is all of their finances
[5:22:45] would essentially be running
[5:22:48] through the city and managed by
[5:22:48] our financial
[5:22:50] services department.
[5:22:51] Um, in terms of budget
[5:22:52] spending, what have you.
[5:22:53] And so we have evaluated
[5:22:56] this provision.
[5:22:56] Um, I think there's absolutely
[5:22:59] additional room to evaluate
[5:23:03] further, um, to see what that
[5:23:03] would really look
[5:23:04] like logistically.
[5:23:05] But that is, like I said,
[5:23:06] one of the allowances that's
[5:23:08] written out in the state law.
[5:23:13] Removal of commissioners.
[5:23:13] This this particular authority
[5:23:14] belongs solely to the mayor.
[5:23:18] Um.
[5:23:20] And, uh, the mayor would
[5:23:20] be permitted to remove a
[5:23:23] commissioner for inefficiency
[5:23:25] or neglect of duty or
[5:23:28] misconduct in office.
[5:23:29] Those particular terms are
[5:23:29] not defined in state statute.
[5:23:30] Um, so we would apply an
[5:23:33] ordinary, reasonable person
[5:23:34] definition to what
[5:23:37] might qualify.
[5:23:37] i see y'all given eyeballs, uh,
[5:23:39] for what might qualify, um, in
[5:23:40] terms of those
[5:23:43] particular definitions.
[5:23:44] Um, the only key here is that
[5:23:45] we would follow the statutory
[5:23:49] process that is laid out.
[5:23:50] And essentially it's a
[5:23:50] due process procedure.
[5:23:51] Um, that you would have
[5:23:53] to follow in terms of the
[5:23:54] commissioner being made aware
[5:23:56] of what the charges are based
[5:23:56] on a set timeline and then
[5:23:59] giving them an opportunity to
[5:23:59] respond in the event
[5:24:02] they do not respond.
[5:24:03] It's considered acquiescing to
[5:24:04] whatever the the allegation or
[5:24:05] charge might be and
[5:24:08] ultimately subject to removal.
[5:24:08] Um, I know of one instance, um,
[5:24:11] decades ago where this actually
[5:24:14] came up, but the individual
[5:24:17] ultimately was not removed, and
[5:24:20] that charge was actually coming
[5:24:21] from the Housing
[5:24:22] Authority board.
[5:24:23] They were requesting for
[5:24:24] somebody to be removed.
[5:24:24] Um, like I said, I don't I
[5:24:26] don't I was not aware of or
[5:24:27] could not find any other
[5:24:29] instances where this statutory
[5:24:30] authority has actually
[5:24:32] had to be utilized.
[5:24:32] And last but certainly not
[5:24:34] least, this is really the
[5:24:39] nuclear option.
[5:24:40] And that's, that's, that's to
[5:24:40] be able to abolish
[5:24:42] the housing authority.
[5:24:44] We created them.
[5:24:45] We've got the authority
[5:24:46] to abolish them.
[5:24:46] Um, and it's a matter of simply
[5:24:47] following the procedures that
[5:24:51] are laid out in the rules.
[5:24:52] Um, and so if that became the
[5:24:53] case, either the city would
[5:24:55] have to take on their
[5:24:58] responsibilities or a
[5:25:00] redevelopment commission would
[5:25:01] have to take on the
[5:25:02] responsibilities.
[5:25:02] And another option is a council
[5:25:03] of governments to be able to
[5:25:04] take on the responsibilities,
[5:25:06] um, of the housing authority.
[5:25:06] And I think for this one,
[5:25:09] you're in a place where it's
[5:25:12] just absolutely egregious.
[5:25:13] Um, this is probably
[5:25:14] not the first step.
[5:25:16] Um, but it's an option.
[5:25:17] It's a tool in the
[5:25:18] toolbox that is out there.
[5:25:18] So with that being said, I want
[5:25:20] to give council an opportunity
[5:25:22] to discuss, provide any
[5:25:25] feedback for any tools, um,
[5:25:26] that you all might be
[5:25:29] interested in or any questions
[5:25:30] that you might have regarding
[5:25:32] our relationship with the
[5:25:34] Housing Authority.
[5:25:34] So the 714 units, the
[5:25:35] money is paid to rent.
[5:25:38] Those are paid to the
[5:25:40] housing authority.
[5:25:42] Correct.
[5:25:43] That's correct.
[5:25:43] And that's their
[5:25:44] operational budget.
[5:25:44] In addition to any grants they
[5:25:46] MAY get from the federal or
[5:25:48] state government.
[5:25:49] That's correct.
[5:25:50] They're running a business.
[5:25:51] And when we say they give us a
[5:25:51] report, what's in that report?
[5:25:55] When they give it to us.
[5:25:55] It typically consists of their
[5:25:56] activities over the course of
[5:25:59] the year.
[5:26:00] So a lot of times they're
[5:26:00] talking about, um, capital
[5:26:02] improvement plans.
[5:26:03] They're talking about their
[5:26:04] portfolio in terms of how much.
[5:26:08] Um, Charlie was processed.
[5:26:09] Right?
[5:26:10] Yep.
[5:26:11] Oh, did.
[5:26:11] They're 20.
[5:26:12] You MAY not know the answer to
[5:26:12] this, but the 2025 report they
[5:26:13] gave to the City council
[5:26:15] disclosed all these bad housing
[5:26:19] issues they had.
[5:26:21] No.
[5:26:22] So is that an innocent mistake?
[5:26:25] Is it neglect or is intentional?
[5:26:27] Do we know that answer?
[5:26:28] Um, I would say, Council Member
[5:26:29] Robinson, that that is those
[5:26:32] deficiencies when they came
[5:26:35] to to the city staff is what
[5:26:36] really raised this
[5:26:39] to a higher level.
[5:26:41] That's what my concern.
[5:26:42] Is because, you know, clearly
[5:26:43] over the last two years, the
[5:26:44] the city manager's office has
[5:26:47] spent a lot of time addressing
[5:26:47] some of the deficiencies that
[5:26:50] are happening within the units.
[5:26:51] I know Council Member Forman
[5:26:53] has also spent a lot of time
[5:26:56] with with with with contacts.
[5:26:57] We got it's got to the point
[5:26:58] where when we have those
[5:26:59] efficiencies we are, we are
[5:27:01] alerting the full entire board
[5:27:02] to make sure that not just the
[5:27:05] the administrator knows that
[5:27:08] the full board does.
[5:27:08] But when we receive the
[5:27:09] deficiencies that date back to
[5:27:10] 2024, that's where we asked for
[5:27:12] the information to to so that
[5:27:14] we could dive into it to the
[5:27:17] point that we have opened up
[5:27:18] Covid cases amongst all the
[5:27:21] different neighborhoods and
[5:27:23] where the rubber hit the road
[5:27:25] was in the last report from hud
[5:27:26] that basically gave the housing
[5:27:29] authority like three days, or
[5:27:30] they were going to suspend,
[5:27:32] uh, several million dollars in
[5:27:35] capital funding.
[5:27:36] But I guess what, I'm
[5:27:36] really not in the city.
[5:27:37] What I'm getting at is, number
[5:27:38] one is there should be a
[5:27:40] mechanism for the tenant
[5:27:43] to complain to the housing
[5:27:43] authority for conditions
[5:27:45] that are not up to par.
[5:27:46] And there should be a protocol
[5:27:48] for the Housing Commission to
[5:27:50] deal with that problem, just
[5:27:53] like a landlord would deal with
[5:27:56] the problem.
[5:27:57] And then there should be, okay,
[5:27:57] we dealt with it so it doesn't
[5:27:58] backlog to the point where
[5:28:01] it catches so much attention.
[5:28:01] The federal government comes
[5:28:03] in and all of a sudden we're
[5:28:04] having to go do some of the
[5:28:06] work that the Housing Authority
[5:28:09] should be doing.
[5:28:10] So I'm kind of, you know,
[5:28:11] from my standpoint from here.
[5:28:12] Councilmember Forman said the
[5:28:15] other things about all these
[5:28:16] horrendous complaints it got
[5:28:17] to the boiling point is that I
[5:28:18] think we really need to take a
[5:28:21] hard, close look at the housing
[5:28:26] authority and look at the
[5:28:26] financial side of
[5:28:28] what they're doing.
[5:28:29] Um, and look at the protocols
[5:28:30] that have in place, because
[5:28:31] none of these problems should
[5:28:33] get to the level they got to.
[5:28:36] And because,
[5:28:36] again, we're dealing with
[5:28:37] people in these conditions
[5:28:39] that, you know, all those kinds
[5:28:41] of problems, it's unacceptable.
[5:28:42] And and quite frankly, the
[5:28:45] picture that's being painted
[5:28:48] for me to look at is like the
[5:28:48] Housing authority
[5:28:49] is doing nothing.
[5:28:50] I think that when I say doing
[5:28:51] nothing that didn't do anything
[5:28:52] for two years because
[5:28:55] it got that bad.
[5:28:55] And I know this is not anywhere
[5:28:56] on the city because we're
[5:28:57] having to clean some
[5:28:59] of this mess up.
[5:29:00] But I think it's so much like
[5:29:01] we need to go in and have a
[5:29:04] house clean.
[5:29:04] Like what's going
[5:29:05] on financially?
[5:29:06] Are your books in order?
[5:29:07] Are you spending
[5:29:08] your money wisely?
[5:29:09] I mean, when the money gets
[5:29:09] doled out, we have to have some
[5:29:12] accounting back.
[5:29:13] And this report that doesn't
[5:29:14] even talk about that.
[5:29:14] And then, number two, I'd like
[5:29:15] to know about the protocols for
[5:29:16] how complaints get received,
[5:29:19] how a tenant can complain, uh,
[5:29:20] what's the time frame from
[5:29:23] trying to fix that problem?
[5:29:23] And the financial
[5:29:25] side is not there.
[5:29:25] What do they do to
[5:29:27] try and mitigate that?
[5:29:28] Because if somebody's getting
[5:29:30] too much money in the federal
[5:29:31] government, because as many
[5:29:32] problems it seems
[5:29:34] like they've had.
[5:29:34] I mean, if this were an
[5:29:36] ordinary business and people
[5:29:37] had already been fired and
[5:29:40] gotten rid of a long time ago,
[5:29:40] I think and I think
[5:29:42] one of the tools.
[5:29:43] In the toolbox that
[5:29:44] Alexander went through.
[5:29:48] Is the ability.
[5:29:49] If council would like for us to
[5:29:49] pursue more information about
[5:29:50] this is what it would take
[5:29:52] to actually, um, Transition
[5:29:54] Housing Authority to be such as
[5:29:56] an enterprise fund of the city
[5:29:58] or basically the city would
[5:30:01] maintain that fund budget, that
[5:30:02] fund control the revenues, the
[5:30:05] expenses coming in and out of
[5:30:10] the door.
[5:30:10] That would give more oversight
[5:30:11] and give us more input into
[5:30:13] those day to day internal
[5:30:16] controls with concerns to not
[5:30:16] only the work orders with what
[5:30:19] you speak of is the processing
[5:30:20] workforce, how they are
[5:30:23] handled, but also a major
[5:30:23] component of their financial
[5:30:26] operations is the rent piece.
[5:30:27] And in we we have many examples
[5:30:29] of how there's a significant
[5:30:33] amount of confusion and how
[5:30:36] rents are applied and and how
[5:30:39] payments are applied to
[5:30:42] individual accounts that make
[5:30:43] it very difficult for not only
[5:30:46] the tenants to understand what
[5:30:47] their balances are, but even
[5:30:50] from the outside looking in the
[5:30:51] city of Greenville, being
[5:30:53] able to understand those.
[5:30:53] That's why that's that's
[5:30:55] ability is in the state law is
[5:30:57] to allow the city to have more
[5:31:00] oversight into the financial
[5:31:00] operations, and if it would
[5:31:03] be the will of the council, we
[5:31:05] would we would look further
[5:31:08] into that and see what that
[5:31:10] would look like.
[5:31:11] I'd like to go in and just look
[5:31:11] and see what the problems are.
[5:31:12] I mean, we know what the
[5:31:15] symptoms are, but what causes
[5:31:19] those symptoms?
[5:31:20] I mean, you know, get in there.
[5:31:21] And I'm like, did you have a
[5:31:21] protocol for addressing, uh,
[5:31:22] complaints that the
[5:31:25] tenants knew about?
[5:31:27] And then once it would receive,
[5:31:28] what happened to that complaint?
[5:31:29] Who was it delivered
[5:31:30] to to get remedied?
[5:31:33] And third, if there was a money
[5:31:33] issue, how do you
[5:31:35] deal with that?
[5:31:35] I mean, because from what I,
[5:31:36] I MAY be wrong about this.
[5:31:37] It doesn't sound
[5:31:39] like any report.
[5:31:40] We don't have enough money
[5:31:41] to fix all these issues.
[5:31:43] That's why we hadn't fixed them.
[5:31:44] And that's where it's
[5:31:45] unsettling to have hud come in
[5:31:46] and say, we were one step away
[5:31:49] from from freezing and taking
[5:31:50] away all your capital funds,
[5:31:53] which I don't want to believe
[5:31:53] was up to the tune
[5:31:55] of like 5.5 million.
[5:31:55] Yeah, it was, and
[5:31:57] that's embarrassing.
[5:31:58] You know, we're not the
[5:32:00] one that's doing it, but.
[5:32:02] We.
[5:32:02] Have oversight.
[5:32:03] This is not a big.
[5:32:04] Spreadsheet full of new.
[5:32:08] Nickels and Penny.
[5:32:09] Not just for.
[5:32:10] A practical standpoint.
[5:32:10] You know, if I were in the
[5:32:11] private business and had 714
[5:32:12] units as a landlord, I
[5:32:15] mean, that's a lot of units.
[5:32:19] And you got to be organized.
[5:32:20] You would have a mechanism to
[5:32:21] collect the rents and have a
[5:32:23] way to deal with the complaints.
[5:32:24] Otherwise, your tenants, you
[5:32:24] lose business because you're
[5:32:25] tenants that were in the
[5:32:28] real world could leave and go
[5:32:31] somewhere else.
[5:32:31] But these tenants don't
[5:32:32] have that financial ability.
[5:32:32] Now to interject real quick,
[5:32:34] um, because, uh, unless I
[5:32:34] appreciate everything you
[5:32:37] just said, because you have
[5:32:38] described everything that I've
[5:32:40] been dealing with for the last
[5:32:41] two and a half years, and, um,
[5:32:43] and that that is more than 714
[5:32:46] units, that's 714 families that
[5:32:48] have been, most of them living
[5:32:55] in substandard conditions.
[5:32:56] And we do not have
[5:32:57] answers about financials.
[5:32:59] There has not been a lot of
[5:33:02] transparency as it relates to
[5:33:03] your question about
[5:33:06] the work order process.
[5:33:06] I've been questioning
[5:33:09] that for over two years.
[5:33:12] It is a paper process.
[5:33:13] Um, the citizens fill out a
[5:33:14] paper form that goes into some
[5:33:20] kind of abyss and, um.
[5:33:23] A black box.
[5:33:25] That's why.
[5:33:26] That's right.
[5:33:27] They do not get a, uh, any type
[5:33:27] of written confirmation that
[5:33:31] the form was received.
[5:33:32] That gives any timeline of how
[5:33:33] things might be remedied, and
[5:33:35] then any follow up to
[5:33:38] see if it was done.
[5:33:39] You know, to, uh, any
[5:33:42] satisfaction or if it was
[5:33:43] brought back up to
[5:33:46] standard or code.
[5:33:49] Um, in addition to that, there
[5:33:50] is a great deal of
[5:33:52] fear factor there.
[5:33:53] Uh, we're dealing with, uh,
[5:33:55] some of the and I would say
[5:33:56] the, uh, people on the lowest
[5:33:59] socioeconomic rung of the
[5:34:00] ladder in our community, um,
[5:34:03] that has been aiding in the
[5:34:04] process of us dealing with
[5:34:07] homelessness in our community,
[5:34:08] because when when these
[5:34:11] families lose housing, they
[5:34:16] don't have anywhere else to go.
[5:34:17] That's why I've been
[5:34:19] so passionate about it.
[5:34:21] Um, and so we have got to
[5:34:23] take the reins in some type
[5:34:25] of fashion because people are
[5:34:26] struggling and suffering
[5:34:29] families and children, when we
[5:34:31] talk about the crime rate and
[5:34:34] things that we're experiencing
[5:34:35] in our community, that
[5:34:38] is a byproduct of that.
[5:34:41] That's a byproduct of that.
[5:34:42] When they're when they're
[5:34:43] housing and food insecure and
[5:34:46] living in these conditions.
[5:34:47] I've taken Michael out.
[5:34:48] Um, the in 2024, I realized
[5:34:49] that I was putting so many
[5:34:52] hours every week into answering
[5:34:55] housing authority calls that me
[5:34:58] just sharing information
[5:35:01] was not going to work, so I
[5:35:01] personally started pointing
[5:35:04] them to the city so that city
[5:35:06] management would feel
[5:35:09] what I was feeling.
[5:35:10] And this is where how we got to
[5:35:11] this place, because all of us
[5:35:13] have been putting in work
[5:35:16] monthly that other people are
[5:35:19] getting paid for.
[5:35:20] And I would complain about that.
[5:35:21] Yes, because it has
[5:35:23] taken a lot of my time.
[5:35:24] But what hurts me the most is
[5:35:26] that I know from what I have
[5:35:28] seen and felt, and so have
[5:35:31] council, um, Council Member
[5:35:33] Jones, that these people are
[5:35:36] struggling and suffering and
[5:35:40] oftentimes inhumane conditions.
[5:35:41] And yes, there's a limited
[5:35:42] amount of capital improvement
[5:35:44] funds that are
[5:35:47] allocated each year.
[5:35:48] However, if you're very
[5:35:49] intentional in how you use
[5:35:53] capital improvement funds.
[5:35:54] Then you can fix
[5:35:55] things in a rotation,
[5:35:56] fix a certain number of units,
[5:35:58] move in, or move people into
[5:36:04] those units.
[5:36:05] Fix the next section of units.
[5:36:06] If things have been managed in
[5:36:07] some type of, uh, fashion with
[5:36:12] some level of intent.
[5:36:12] I think we would at least
[5:36:13] be in a better place.
[5:36:14] We might not be in an ideal
[5:36:17] position, but we would be in a
[5:36:18] lot better position
[5:36:21] than what we're in now.
[5:36:23] And this is not right.
[5:36:25] What goes on in the Housing
[5:36:25] Authority impacts
[5:36:26] the entire community.
[5:36:29] And so we have a responsibility.
[5:36:32] And I'm saying this to everyone.
[5:36:33] I ask them to do this overview,
[5:36:33] because I want all of us to be
[5:36:35] abreast on what's going on
[5:36:38] and what our citizens are
[5:36:39] struggling and suffering
[5:36:42] through, but you hear every
[5:36:45] single point in your questions.
[5:36:47] So with that being said,
[5:36:49] Councilmember Forman's Comments.
[5:36:51] I would ask council if didn't
[5:36:52] the thumbs up for half of our
[5:36:53] Financial services department
[5:36:56] research further what it would
[5:36:58] what it would look like with it
[5:37:01] into for the AlphaTauri to be
[5:37:02] an enterprise fund and as a
[5:37:05] part of that would probably be
[5:37:06] a very strong financial review,
[5:37:08] not only of their finances, but
[5:37:10] also of their procedures, their
[5:37:13] internal controls, are they not
[5:37:14] only to work orders, but also
[5:37:16] to the application of rent
[5:37:20] payments as well?
[5:37:21] I would like to see the
[5:37:21] financial audit and also a
[5:37:22] critical analysis of their
[5:37:24] operating procedures.
[5:37:27] That and that MAY require.
[5:37:28] We'll we'll direct our our
[5:37:29] chief financial officer Jacob
[5:37:30] Joiner to to start putting the
[5:37:32] thoughts together what that
[5:37:35] would look like.
[5:37:36] It MAY require an outside
[5:37:36] review of the of the financial
[5:37:38] statements and the
[5:37:41] internal controls.
[5:37:42] But I think this is the you
[5:37:43] know, I will echo
[5:37:44] those of the council.
[5:37:45] I think we've got an obligation
[5:37:46] to the citizens of those
[5:37:47] communities because first and
[5:37:50] foremost, they're they're not.
[5:37:51] They're not citizens of
[5:37:53] the Housing Authority.
[5:37:54] They're they're
[5:37:55] sent by the city.
[5:37:56] Absolutely. That's
[5:37:57] where we're here.
[5:37:58] So we owe the same amount of
[5:37:59] due diligence for for those
[5:38:02] individuals as we
[5:38:05] do anyone else.
[5:38:05] And that would be the first
[5:38:07] step to bring back an overview
[5:38:10] of what that would look like.
[5:38:11] The council.
[5:38:12] Thank you.
[5:38:12] If you give a thumbs up.
[5:38:13] Yeah.
[5:38:14] Had a good one.
[5:38:16] Oh, absolutely.
[5:38:17] Okay.
[5:38:18] All right.
[5:38:20] We will move on
[5:38:20] to the next item.
[5:38:21] We have a second item is a
[5:38:23] code enforcement update of the
[5:38:24] internet over to
[5:38:27] City manager domain.
[5:38:30] Okay.
[5:38:31] I thought that was posted.
[5:38:34] Nope.
[5:38:35] Switch it out.
[5:38:36] Oh, it's going down right.
[5:38:37] All right, so as the manager,
[5:38:38] Callahan said, this will be an
[5:38:41] update on our code enforcement.
[5:38:43] And so just some background
[5:38:44] staff last came to you all in
[5:38:47] MAY to talk about a new
[5:38:50] direction for our Code
[5:38:51] Enforcement division, and laid
[5:38:54] out a plan of action in terms
[5:38:59] of what that would look like.
[5:38:59] Simply based on Council's
[5:39:00] goals and priorities that are
[5:39:04] enumerated here.
[5:39:04] Proactively enhancing
[5:39:05] our community engagement.
[5:39:06] Most importantly, building
[5:39:08] a thriving and attractive
[5:39:08] community by creating
[5:39:10] meaningful access to
[5:39:11] affordable, habitable, and
[5:39:12] quality housing for all
[5:39:13] citizens, and then make
[5:39:15] Greenville a destination
[5:39:16] community in place for
[5:39:18] all people to call home.
[5:39:18] So, like I said, moving forward
[5:39:20] with those those goals and
[5:39:23] priorities in mind.
[5:39:24] Um, we presented a, an action
[5:39:24] plan to you all that was
[5:39:26] essentially based upon
[5:39:29] three, three prongs proactive
[5:39:30] compliance and enforcement,
[5:39:33] outreach and education, and
[5:39:36] then case management.
[5:39:37] So really working towards
[5:39:38] getting to a place where we are
[5:39:38] consistently addressing our
[5:39:40] minimum housing issues, um,
[5:39:44] throughout the city.
[5:39:45] So this is just
[5:39:45] the three prongs.
[5:39:49] Um, within that proposed action
[5:39:52] plan came some short term goals.
[5:39:52] Um, focus on evaluating our
[5:39:54] city ordinances, building out
[5:39:55] and implementation of updated
[5:39:57] technology solutions, training
[5:39:59] and development, some
[5:40:01] outreach and engagement.
[5:40:04] And then we saw some
[5:40:04] opportunity for
[5:40:05] council direction.
[5:40:06] Um, additionally, we had some
[5:40:08] long term goals that came along
[5:40:09] with the plan of action, uh, to
[5:40:12] really get us to a place where
[5:40:12] we were evaluating our
[5:40:15] resources and being able to
[5:40:16] make informed decisions and
[5:40:17] getting in a consistent cycle
[5:40:19] of us, um, evaluating
[5:40:21] our processes.
[5:40:24] So we are back today to talk
[5:40:25] about how we have moved our
[5:40:31] action plan forward.
[5:40:32] Um, in terms of the case
[5:40:33] management piece with our
[5:40:34] technology, we have completed
[5:40:35] our evaluation of our city code
[5:40:39] of ordinances.
[5:40:40] We are looking at moving
[5:40:40] forward with our
[5:40:41] outreach and engagement.
[5:40:42] Um, and we have also
[5:40:43] implemented a, um, an
[5:40:44] additional initiative really
[5:40:47] focused on vacant and abandoned
[5:40:47] structures and being able
[5:40:49] to overlay those with public
[5:40:50] safety issues to be able to
[5:40:53] start cases and move those
[5:40:54] along to clean up some of
[5:40:56] the blight in the community.
[5:40:56] So first and foremost, with our
[5:40:58] case management piece, one of
[5:41:01] the biggest pieces of this
[5:41:04] is the the technology piece.
[5:41:05] Um, and so we have, like
[5:41:07] I said, move forward with
[5:41:11] evaluating that.
[5:41:12] I do have, um, William
[5:41:12] Mills who is in the room.
[5:41:15] He is our assistant director.
[5:41:17] Uh, with our community and
[5:41:18] development services department.
[5:41:18] And he has worked very closely
[5:41:19] with our teams in the use of
[5:41:24] Inner Grove.
[5:41:25] We've got a system internally
[5:41:26] that we use called Inner Grove.
[5:41:26] Um, to really get that to
[5:41:28] a place where it is, um,
[5:41:30] enhanced, our
[5:41:33] workflows are updated.
[5:41:35] Um, what have you.
[5:41:36] I'm going to switch
[5:41:36] to the next slide.
[5:41:37] Yeah, to the back.
[5:41:37] Sure. Okay.
[5:41:38] All right.
[5:41:39] So make sure our
[5:41:39] workflows are updated.
[5:41:40] And then really being able to
[5:41:40] implement some Automation for
[5:41:42] those system functions to
[5:41:45] create more effectiveness
[5:41:45] amongst our teams
[5:41:47] and more efficiency.
[5:41:48] Along with this came the
[5:41:49] deployment of tablets that our
[5:41:51] officers are now able to use
[5:41:54] in the field to initiate cases
[5:41:54] versus them having to come back
[5:41:57] to the office and really do
[5:42:00] that administrative piece.
[5:42:01] They're not able to do all of
[5:42:01] that in the field, start the
[5:42:02] case, take the pictures, log
[5:42:03] any necessary information in
[5:42:07] terms of contact, what have you.
[5:42:08] Like I said, on site
[5:42:09] with with the violation.
[5:42:10] Um, another important piece
[5:42:12] that comes with case management
[5:42:13] management is the
[5:42:15] reporting piece.
[5:42:16] And so I do want to acknowledge
[5:42:17] that the request that council
[5:42:17] made in MAY, um, for you all
[5:42:19] to be able to receive monthly
[5:42:21] reports as it relates to all
[5:42:24] of our cases in the system.
[5:42:25] Um, and so we have moved
[5:42:28] forward with some significant
[5:42:28] data cleanup in terms of
[5:42:31] our inner Grove system.
[5:42:31] Um, and then recognizing that
[5:42:33] that is the reporting is really
[5:42:35] tied to us getting up
[5:42:38] and running efficiently.
[5:42:38] Um, and so I do know that the
[5:42:41] team has had meetings today and
[5:42:42] within the last week with Inner
[5:42:45] Growth to really get those
[5:42:46] workflows written, how they
[5:42:47] should be written, and be able
[5:42:48] to get to a place where we are
[5:42:50] implementing those so we can
[5:42:51] get to consistent case
[5:42:54] management and reporting.
[5:42:54] Um, this is just a snapshot
[5:42:56] in time of reporting.
[5:42:57] Like I said, we last
[5:42:59] came to you all in MAY.
[5:43:00] Um, and so I want to point
[5:43:01] out the JUNE and JULY piece in
[5:43:04] terms of the minimum housing,
[5:43:06] and that there has been a
[5:43:07] significant increase in terms
[5:43:10] of the caseloads as it relates
[5:43:14] to that particular case type.
[5:43:15] And that is really attributable
[5:43:16] to, um, three instances, one
[5:43:18] being what I mentioned earlier
[5:43:21] with the Housing Authority, and
[5:43:22] that notice we got from hud,
[5:43:24] where we did a full court press
[5:43:25] to start cases, um, on
[5:43:27] all units within certain
[5:43:31] neighborhoods that were
[5:43:32] identified within
[5:43:32] that hud report.
[5:43:33] Um, and so that has
[5:43:34] led to a large influx.
[5:43:35] Um, one of the other points in
[5:43:38] time is the vacant abandoned
[5:43:39] structure piece that
[5:43:42] I mentioned earlier.
[5:43:43] And so we have taken, um, about
[5:43:44] 70 or 80 properties, and we
[5:43:46] have overlaid those with public
[5:43:49] safety calls for service to be
[5:43:50] able to prioritize, um, those
[5:43:53] particular units throughout the
[5:43:54] community, um, that we can run
[5:43:57] through the, the processes.
[5:43:58] And like I said, it's
[5:44:01] tied to public safety.
[5:44:02] So it's beyond just being
[5:44:03] a minimum housing issue.
[5:44:03] We're now talking about,
[5:44:05] um, breaking and entering.
[5:44:08] We're talking about, um, drug
[5:44:08] issues, just just
[5:44:10] criminal activity.
[5:44:11] Um, that unfortunately, is
[5:44:12] continuing to perpetuate the
[5:44:16] blight in the community.
[5:44:17] Um, one of the other things is
[5:44:17] we had a lot of activity around
[5:44:21] Club Way.
[5:44:21] Um, a lot of those cases
[5:44:22] have now been closed out.
[5:44:23] Um, the three major cases that
[5:44:25] are outstanding with that are
[5:44:26] the units in which required
[5:44:29] some additional, um, activity
[5:44:29] in terms of bracing those
[5:44:32] particular properties.
[5:44:33] And they're currently going
[5:44:35] through construction, um, to be
[5:44:36] able to repair those particular
[5:44:39] units so we can get people back
[5:44:42] in them.
[5:44:43] Um, so one of the other
[5:44:44] components for our plan of
[5:44:48] action was proactive and
[5:44:51] consistent enforcement.
[5:44:51] Um, and so with that came the
[5:44:53] need to evaluate all of our
[5:44:57] code related ordinances.
[5:44:59] So we looked at minimum housing.
[5:44:59] We looked at
[5:45:00] nonresidential structures.
[5:45:01] We looked at, um, everything
[5:45:02] across the board to determine
[5:45:05] where we could gain time.
[5:45:06] Um, and so that has now been
[5:45:07] completed, and we are planning
[5:45:09] to come back to you all in
[5:45:12] SEPTEMBER proposing adoption
[5:45:16] for that.
[5:45:16] Um, so I want to talk through
[5:45:17] some of those, um, components
[5:45:18] related to that
[5:45:21] particular, um, initiative.
[5:45:21] And so overall, this these are
[5:45:24] really going to highlight the
[5:45:25] major, um, things we evaluated
[5:45:27] and what we're proposing to
[5:45:31] change in front of you all.
[5:45:32] You do have a notebook that
[5:45:33] contains all of the proposed
[5:45:34] changes, um, that you can can
[5:45:36] review at your leisure, um, and
[5:45:38] be able to provide any
[5:45:41] feedback that you might have.
[5:45:42] Like I said, with us proposing
[5:45:43] adoption, um, at you all
[5:45:47] SEPTEMBER meeting.
[5:45:49] Um, so we did general cleanup.
[5:45:50] We had to verify we were
[5:45:50] in alignment with our North
[5:45:54] Carolina General Statutes.
[5:45:55] You'll see an update to the
[5:45:56] structure for civil penalties
[5:46:00] related to code enforcement
[5:46:00] cases, updates to
[5:46:01] some timelines.
[5:46:02] In some places, we were able
[5:46:03] to reduce the some timelines.
[5:46:04] Some places we had to extend
[5:46:06] the timeline just based on
[5:46:09] statutory law.
[5:46:09] Um, we are proposing an
[5:46:10] implementation of a 48 hour
[5:46:11] life safety repair policy, and
[5:46:13] we evaluated the determination
[5:46:15] of unfit for human habitation
[5:46:19] and what that that would look
[5:46:21] like moving forward.
[5:46:23] And then last but not least,
[5:46:23] the implementation
[5:46:24] of a mold protocol.
[5:46:25] And that would be specific
[5:46:27] to an internal practice.
[5:46:31] That's not something that would
[5:46:33] be written out in the ordinance.
[5:46:34] So that would be something
[5:46:35] staff would would
[5:46:36] be implementing.
[5:46:38] Um, like I said, just based off
[5:46:38] an internal standard
[5:46:39] operating procedure.
[5:46:41] Um, these are all the, the
[5:46:42] codes and the sections
[5:46:43] that we evaluated.
[5:46:44] And like I said, in their
[5:46:45] totality, anything related to
[5:46:48] code enforcement issues.
[5:46:49] Um, and so first component,
[5:46:50] when we looked at the alignment
[5:46:53] with the North Carolina General
[5:46:55] Statutes, first and foremost,
[5:46:59] chronic violators.
[5:46:59] So what chronic violators
[5:47:00] provides for is that if we're
[5:47:00] giving notice to the same
[5:47:02] property owner, same property,
[5:47:03] at least three times within the
[5:47:06] same 12 month period, we can
[5:47:07] designate that individual
[5:47:10] or that property owner as a
[5:47:12] chronic violator.
[5:47:13] We're moving forward.
[5:47:14] We're only required to
[5:47:15] give notice, and then we're
[5:47:15] permitted to abate the property
[5:47:17] and bring it into compliance.
[5:47:18] Um, previously it was written
[5:47:20] out that we had to actually
[5:47:21] abate the the nuisance that was
[5:47:24] identified at least three times
[5:47:25] within a 12 month period
[5:47:28] prior to us deeming somebody a
[5:47:31] chronic violator.
[5:47:32] So this is a this was an
[5:47:32] opportunity for us to, to gain
[5:47:36] some time in terms of how we
[5:47:37] implement that
[5:47:38] particular process.
[5:47:40] Um, I did.
[5:47:41] Everyone's.
[5:47:41] On the same page.
[5:47:42] Can you define and
[5:47:42] describe what that is?
[5:47:43] Yes. And so typically when
[5:47:45] we're talking about a chronic
[5:47:47] violator, we are dealing
[5:47:48] with public nuisances only.
[5:47:49] So not tied to minimum housing
[5:47:51] is simply public nuisances.
[5:47:52] So issues with tall grass
[5:47:54] weeds, issues with um trash and
[5:47:58] debris or issues with junked
[5:48:01] abandoned nuisance cars
[5:48:01] typically are the types of
[5:48:04] public nuisances, um, that that
[5:48:08] we're dealing with.
[5:48:09] And so if we're talking about
[5:48:09] actually moving forward with
[5:48:10] abatement, it might mean we go
[5:48:11] out and we cut the grass, um,
[5:48:12] to bring the property
[5:48:14] back into compliance.
[5:48:15] We might go out and clean up
[5:48:16] the trash and debris that's
[5:48:19] scattered, um, over property.
[5:48:20] And so that's what we mean when
[5:48:21] we're talking about abatement
[5:48:22] under the chronic
[5:48:24] violators rules.
[5:48:25] Um, the next one on the list
[5:48:26] is dealing with the vacate
[5:48:30] enclosed dwellings.
[5:48:31] I mentioned at the beginning
[5:48:32] there were some unfortunate
[5:48:32] instances where we had to
[5:48:34] increase our timelines.
[5:48:35] Even though we were trying to
[5:48:37] gain efficiencies, but we had
[5:48:38] to be in compliance
[5:48:39] with the state law.
[5:48:40] The ordinance historically was
[5:48:41] written out that we could move
[5:48:44] forward with the process
[5:48:47] after six months of a property
[5:48:50] sitting vacant and abandoned.
[5:48:50] Statutorily, you've
[5:48:51] got to sit for a year.
[5:48:53] So that is one of the places,
[5:48:54] like I said, where we had to
[5:48:58] increase the timeline
[5:48:59] everywhere else we
[5:48:59] were able to decrease.
[5:49:00] Previously it said, um, not
[5:49:02] less than 30 days and not more
[5:49:03] than 90 for everywhere
[5:49:06] that was written out.
[5:49:06] We have now decreased the 90 to
[5:49:08] 60 days, and there still might
[5:49:09] be some flexibility just based
[5:49:12] on what the, um, on a case by
[5:49:16] case basis.
[5:49:17] But the rule, like I said, will
[5:49:18] be written out not less than 30.
[5:49:19] Um, and no more than 60 days
[5:49:19] before we would be able to move
[5:49:23] forward with, with our process.
[5:49:24] Um, methods of service was
[5:49:25] another place in which we came
[5:49:28] into alignment.
[5:49:29] A lot of places we were doing
[5:49:29] more than what we needed to do.
[5:49:30] Meaning we were requiring
[5:49:32] certified or registered mail
[5:49:33] where the statute only required
[5:49:36] personal delivery, first class
[5:49:40] mail, or posting before we
[5:49:41] could move forward
[5:49:42] with any activity.
[5:49:42] So anywhere where we were
[5:49:43] able to remove certified or
[5:49:47] registered mail.
[5:49:48] Um, we have done that.
[5:49:49] Um, and so the two I've
[5:49:50] identified here are dealing
[5:49:51] with the weeds and vegetation
[5:49:54] and then abandoned junk
[5:49:55] nuisance vehicles is where we
[5:49:56] were able to dial that back.
[5:49:59] Um, and last but not least, in
[5:50:00] terms of the appeals
[5:50:02] method and periods.
[5:50:02] Um, so we evaluated
[5:50:04] that in its entirety.
[5:50:05] And in a lot of places, we had
[5:50:07] a lot of layers and levels to
[5:50:08] the appeals process, um, that
[5:50:11] weren't necessarily reasonable.
[5:50:12] Um, and so we have dialed
[5:50:15] those back to where, um, it's a
[5:50:21] shorter period of time.
[5:50:21] I mean, because some stuff is,
[5:50:22] is is it's very clear if you've
[5:50:23] got grass that's ten inches
[5:50:25] or higher, that's very clear.
[5:50:25] There's not really room for
[5:50:27] negotiation necessarily.
[5:50:28] And so now we've got it set to
[5:50:31] where you might have 15 days to
[5:50:35] file a written appeal.
[5:50:36] And that appeal goes to
[5:50:36] the Board of Adjustment.
[5:50:37] Previously it went through the
[5:50:38] the assistant director, the
[5:50:39] director to the assistant city
[5:50:42] manager to the city manager to
[5:50:43] everybody had to had
[5:50:46] to check the box.
[5:50:47] And so we have removed that
[5:50:49] that drawn out process to, to
[5:50:50] make it easier, I think
[5:50:53] for everybody involved.
[5:50:55] Um, so I mentioned the
[5:50:55] determination of being unfit
[5:51:01] for human habitation.
[5:51:01] Historically, we have relied
[5:51:02] on property value and cost of
[5:51:03] repairs to make this
[5:51:06] particular determination.
[5:51:07] And so what we are proposing
[5:51:08] is a tiered, um, methodology
[5:51:11] wherein if you're meeting
[5:51:13] these, these certain
[5:51:15] thresholds, and the first
[5:51:17] one up there in terms of a
[5:51:18] dilapidated structure would
[5:51:20] require, um, you to meet at
[5:51:22] least one of the
[5:51:25] enumerated conditions.
[5:51:26] And those conditions listed are
[5:51:27] those that are really dealing
[5:51:29] with life safety issues.
[5:51:30] Um, so anything like
[5:51:31] threatening life safety, you
[5:51:32] only have to have one of those
[5:51:34] identified for your property to
[5:51:35] be deemed unfit for
[5:51:37] human habitation.
[5:51:37] The next layer is would be
[5:51:39] classified as a deteriorated
[5:51:40] property, wherein you would
[5:51:43] have to have seven or more of
[5:51:44] the conditions that are
[5:51:47] identified before you could
[5:51:48] designate a dwelling as
[5:51:50] being unfit for habitation.
[5:51:51] And then the last tier
[5:51:54] is, um, less than seven.
[5:51:55] So a very low, low level, um,
[5:51:58] all you've got to have is, is
[5:52:03] violations identified.
[5:52:04] And so it's not going to
[5:52:04] result in it being unfit for
[5:52:05] habitation, but it would be a
[5:52:06] violation in which you would be
[5:52:07] required to repair or be
[5:52:09] subject to civil penalties in
[5:52:11] the event you did not.
[5:52:13] Um, one of the other components
[5:52:17] is looking at our structure for
[5:52:19] civil penalties.
[5:52:21] Um, to really be able to, um,
[5:52:24] ease the implementation of this.
[5:52:25] We are proposing to go from
[5:52:26] what's currently a tiered
[5:52:30] process to a flat fee.
[5:52:30] Um, and but every day's
[5:52:32] violation would still be a
[5:52:33] separate and
[5:52:35] continuing violation.
[5:52:36] So civil penalties
[5:52:36] would still accrue.
[5:52:37] They would just be accruing at
[5:52:39] a flat fee versus you having to
[5:52:42] deal with with tiers.
[5:52:43] So better for accounting
[5:52:44] purposes, better for city staff
[5:52:44] to be able to, to keep up
[5:52:47] and be able to implement.
[5:52:48] Um, and so you see the, the
[5:52:50] tiers where we currently are.
[5:52:51] And we would go to $100
[5:52:54] per each violation.
[5:52:56] Um, and one note I will
[5:52:57] make here is this is solely
[5:53:02] applicable to code enforcement.
[5:53:03] So there will be some other
[5:53:04] places still in the code where
[5:53:06] it'll be the tiered process.
[5:53:07] Not to say we might not
[5:53:08] evaluate that in the future to
[5:53:08] to level set and make
[5:53:11] everything consistent.
[5:53:12] Um, but right now it'll just be
[5:53:13] focused on the code, um, code
[5:53:16] enforcement sections.
[5:53:18] Um, one other component we
[5:53:18] are proposing is that we would
[5:53:22] implement a 48 hour life safety
[5:53:25] repair um ordinance and it
[5:53:28] would require landlords,
[5:53:31] property managers, what have
[5:53:34] you to fix any of the
[5:53:35] identified violations
[5:53:37] within 48 hours?
[5:53:37] Um, in the event they were not
[5:53:39] resolved, they would be subject
[5:53:43] to civil penalties.
[5:53:43] Um, we have evaluated the
[5:53:44] opportunity of what it would
[5:53:48] look like for staff to abate.
[5:53:49] Um, and we are trying
[5:53:50] to stay away from that.
[5:53:51] We don't want to be in the
[5:53:54] business of being an hvac
[5:53:56] contractor or trying to to, um,
[5:53:57] be an electrician
[5:54:00] or what have you.
[5:54:00] And so the the route to go at
[5:54:01] this point in time would be us
[5:54:03] applying, like I said, civil
[5:54:06] penalties and then evaluating
[5:54:09] on a a a case by case basis.
[5:54:10] If we had to take
[5:54:10] it, take it further.
[5:54:12] Um, up to and including
[5:54:13] requiring the dwelling
[5:54:14] to be vacated.
[5:54:18] Um, so I mentioned the mold
[5:54:21] protocol at the beginning.
[5:54:22] Like I said, this will not
[5:54:23] be based in the ordnance.
[5:54:24] This will solely be something
[5:54:25] tied to standard operating
[5:54:27] procedures that our staff
[5:54:30] would implement within our code
[5:54:32] Enforcement division.
[5:54:33] We've seen an increase in
[5:54:33] complaints tied specifically to
[5:54:34] mold, and we did evaluate a
[5:54:37] lot of options in terms of what
[5:54:38] this could look like for city
[5:54:40] staff to be able to to run the
[5:54:41] ball on this, but it's it's
[5:54:44] extremely cost prohibitive for
[5:54:46] us to be able to consistently
[5:54:49] implement any type of testing
[5:54:53] and or remediation.
[5:54:53] And so what we have decided to
[5:54:54] do, or we're proposing to do,
[5:54:55] is be able to document the mold
[5:54:58] like substances that that has
[5:54:59] been identified, taking the