1 00:00:00,620 --> 00:00:01,720 Good evening. 2 00:00:04,230 --> 00:00:27,490 Tonight is July 18th, 2023. And this is the question of city council business meeting. We'd like to call the meeting to order. First order of businesses are roll call. And we will start with Councilor Danucci, Councilor Morales. We do expect him momentarily. Council President Piazza, Councilor Jones Dixon. We do expect Councilor Jones Dixon. Councilor Dixon. 3 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:30,550 And Councillor Gladfaltor is excused. 4 00:00:30,550 --> 00:00:32,330 See, it's under the weather this afternoon. 5 00:00:33,490 --> 00:00:35,270 So, we wish her the best. 6 00:00:36,130 --> 00:00:38,850 With that, we'll move to item A2, 7 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:40,410 which is our moment of silence. 8 00:00:40,610 --> 00:00:43,270 This allows the Council to seek guidance in its own way 9 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:45,870 as we deliberate the city's business. 10 00:00:46,390 --> 00:00:47,530 Please join us. 11 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,320 Thank you very much for giving us the opportunity 12 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:23,900 to seek guidance in our own way. 13 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:26,900 And I do want to reflect that Councillor Morales is with us. 14 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:27,640 Thank you. 15 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,900 good to see you. 16 00:01:30,220 --> 00:01:30,700 All right. 17 00:01:31,340 --> 00:01:32,380 Before we move to the population, 18 00:01:32,940 --> 00:01:35,140 I always like to make sure that we recognize 19 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,600 our folks that come and watch over us in tonight. 20 00:01:38,940 --> 00:01:41,260 We have Sergeant Mani Hernandez. 21 00:01:42,580 --> 00:01:44,340 And usually I just say, 22 00:01:44,620 --> 00:01:45,100 Hey, thank you. 23 00:01:45,260 --> 00:01:47,320 But I just want to go step further this evening. 24 00:01:47,740 --> 00:01:50,840 He has been with the Christian police department 25 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,640 for 26 years. 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,060 So thank you for your service. 27 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,460 Thank you for being here. 28 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:04,040 today because it's we started at 230 and we'll go all the way till we end at 1130 or midnight. 29 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,580 I'm just just kidding folks. We won't go that long maybe 10. 30 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:16,280 So with that we're going to neutral our population. It's our Americans with disabilities act day. 31 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:22,880 Don't want to recognize everybody as we think about how do we ensure that everybody has opportunity within our community. 32 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:30,580 So, whereas the Americans with Disabilities Act, ADA, was signed into law on July 26, 33 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:35,880 1990, establishing a clear and comprehensive national mandate for the elimination of discrimination 34 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,400 to ensure the civil rights of people with disabilities, and whereas the ADA has expanded 35 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,040 opportunities for Americans with disabilities by reducing barriers, changing perceptions, 36 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:49,660 and increasing opportunities for full participation and inclusion in community life. 37 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:57,580 and whereas continues commitment to the principles of the ADA is necessary to help individuals 38 00:02:57,580 --> 00:03:03,940 with disabilities reach their full potential. And whereas on July 26th, 2023, our city, 39 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,780 state and nation will commemorate the 33rd anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act 40 00:03:09,780 --> 00:03:14,060 recognizing and celebrating the progress that has been made. And whereas the city of question 41 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:19,360 encourages people to reaffirm the principles of equality and inclusion laid out in the ADA 42 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:26,320 and recommit our efforts to reach full ADA compliance so that every person in our city has the opportunity to succeed. 43 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:34,400 Now that for I-Traveler Mayor of the City of Crescent, do hereby proclaim the 26th day of July be Americans with Disabilities Act. 44 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,400 They did this 18th day of July 2023. 45 00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:55,780 Item A4, one of the things that we've want to make sure that we do is thank our team members and just like we did with Sergeant Hernandez. 46 00:03:55,780 --> 00:04:01,720 as 26 years. He's not retiring, but we do have a retiree that we want to recognize and that's 47 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Laura Kelly. Please record specialist 18 years and eight months. So I don't believe Laurie is here, 48 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:15,800 but let's give her a round of applause for her service to the city of Gresham because yeah, 18 years 49 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:21,040 and eight months, that's a long time. We appreciate that service because it's all about people at the end 50 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,840 of day and the great people that work with us on a day to day basis. 51 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:30,200 So with that, we're going to move to our section B, which is our community member comments. 52 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:40,620 And if community members wanted to testify either verbal or written, we asked if they submit their testimony or their request to give testimony to the city recorder. 53 00:04:41,020 --> 00:04:44,540 Rachel Gangelhoff, by 6 p.m. Monday, July 17, 2023. 54 00:04:45,340 --> 00:04:50,680 Rachel, did we have anybody sign up for testimony and also do we have any written testimony that was provided? 55 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:59,160 Thank you, Mary, yes, we had one written testimony submitted which is on the website currently and first up here and 56 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,420 Members, we have Joseph and DIA. 57 00:05:14,050 --> 00:05:32,930 Good evening, City Council and Mayor. I want to start with the correction from the July 11 meeting regarding the Oregon State Constitution. It was implied that 60% is needed to amend that document. However, per article 17 of the State Constitution be the citizens' initiative process, only a majority of electors voting has required. 58 00:05:33,490 --> 00:05:43,270 Separately, any amendment to the Constitution may be proposed in either Chamber of the Legislative Assembly and if it's a great cheap buy majority of members in each of the two houses, the amendment passes. 59 00:05:43,850 --> 00:05:50,130 Also, no other similarly sized city in Oregon requires 60% approval to amend their charter's discretion as the only one. 60 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:55,730 Additionally, the Council has expressed a desire that the ballot language for this amendment only be factual. 61 00:05:55,730 --> 00:06:00,430 I believe it is relevant to add to the summary section the factual impact of the current 62 00:06:00,430 --> 00:06:05,070 language in the charter that was removed by Council on July 11th from the Nobore 63 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:05,530 Posture. 64 00:06:06,610 --> 00:06:11,210 I am referring to the two amendments that have failed because of the current 60% requirement, 65 00:06:11,770 --> 00:06:15,970 the addition of a city auditor position and adding a non-discrimination statement to the charter. 66 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:19,950 I concur with the Council that this information does not belong to the Nobore section 67 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:21,570 and should only be factual in nature. 68 00:06:21,570 --> 00:06:26,450 I believe with some revision, the factual history of these two amendments could fit the 175-word 69 00:06:26,450 --> 00:06:30,390 limit for the summary portion, and I've drafted sample language that fits all requirements 70 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:33,250 that would be happy to provide it with a Jane Leo or to Council. 71 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:39,250 Moving on to my main point, I am appalled by comments made in this chamber by Councillors 72 00:06:39,250 --> 00:06:43,530 during the July 11th meeting when referring to the 60% charter amendment. 73 00:06:44,050 --> 00:06:49,270 The amount of time the capital WL of the capital M majority was referred to as a whim 74 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:54,750 A fringe idea, an easy hurdle to clear, or blown by any wind or tide, was disparaging. 75 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:59,270 It feels like this legislative body has forgotten what the word majority means. 76 00:06:59,850 --> 00:07:03,570 In America, at all levels of government, we believe in majority rule. 77 00:07:03,930 --> 00:07:08,630 The fact that 41% of voters can override the will of the majority means we are living under 78 00:07:08,630 --> 00:07:10,930 minority rule with respect to charter amendments. 79 00:07:11,610 --> 00:07:15,610 The current requirement to amend the charter is un-American and undemocratic. 80 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:20,590 I would encourage officials elected via a majority vote to respect the will of that same 81 00:07:20,590 --> 00:07:24,990 majority with regards to modifying the charter and throw their full support behind this 82 00:07:24,990 --> 00:07:26,770 amendment, as they did with the safety lovely. 83 00:07:27,330 --> 00:07:29,350 Thank you for your collaboration regarding this issue. 84 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:31,370 I look forward to voting on in the near future. 85 00:07:37,980 --> 00:07:39,120 And then we have Wayne Albert. 86 00:07:55,550 --> 00:08:01,830 Mayor Sol, Council President and Bill of Counselors will be a C.A. made their presidential 87 00:08:02,770 --> 00:08:07,950 to Council on 14th of this year, they said they were forced out in the newspaper version. 88 00:08:08,530 --> 00:08:10,530 Times are matching this year, it could be eliminated. 89 00:08:11,630 --> 00:08:15,390 I think this could be plus for the hate crime and the civil war and does have this. 90 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:17,610 This is under the federal laws and statutes. 91 00:08:18,350 --> 00:08:23,530 This pertains to people with all types of bias categories of people with disabilities. 92 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:25,230 Bias means injustice. 93 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:29,750 I believe that some Council rules are not being followed properly, trust. 94 00:08:29,750 --> 00:08:34,390 All elected officials and appointees shall protect the rights of all citizens, number 95 00:08:34,390 --> 00:08:34,770 five. 96 00:08:35,090 --> 00:08:40,050 All elected officials and employees shall ensure that all citizens are given a fair and equal 97 00:08:40,050 --> 00:08:42,730 opportunity to express their views, failing on both. 98 00:08:43,730 --> 00:08:48,750 Accountability, open government allows citizens to make an important judgment to hold elected 99 00:08:48,750 --> 00:08:49,850 officials accountable. 100 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:54,330 The Council of Crease Valley Health people and seniors says this is disgrace. 101 00:08:55,170 --> 00:08:58,990 Why this is a council that cares only about itself and no one else? 102 00:08:59,510 --> 00:09:04,330 I'll also tell the two of them out white. As a citizen of Gresson, who is a serious citizen 103 00:09:04,330 --> 00:09:08,430 of the mental health issues and disabilities, I've been, I've been desperate to have 104 00:09:08,430 --> 00:09:12,750 been no respect for my age, but I'd say major in marriage office, I've held an ambition 105 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:18,630 and lied to by council, and to also please some far-reporting. Plus, the C.O. Attorney's 106 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:24,870 Office. I'm doing the far-reporting with a bar in place to be doing as a citizen. I believe 107 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:30,090 Public opinion has to be my way of expressing my thoughts and views because this council doesn't care. 108 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:32,470 Will citizens don't ask questions? 109 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:36,010 Will citizens can't ask questions about something that they can't don't understand? 110 00:09:36,770 --> 00:09:42,190 When a razor hand may or so that they're in all the public comment at this time, this shows this respect 111 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:46,630 of because our famous speech has been by they'd be welcome regardless of what you say. 112 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:49,890 I was tempted to read all the books with respect. 113 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:52,230 Council has a feeling great in this also. 114 00:09:52,770 --> 00:09:55,590 I'm clarifying and losing about all the people I mentioned. 115 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:58,710 You never get an answer straight answer about anything. 116 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,540 And I will move the life of extreme abuse, mental health issues on my life. I will learn to take care of myself and became a person who is doing and helping others. 117 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:18,120 I can be helping this having what you needed to accomplish, but your actions are telling me that seniors aren't smart enough, and that's all this observation and your actions and facial expressions. 118 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:27,080 This council and city employees should remember that your public servants have represented the city and its citizens. You work for us, we don't work for you. 119 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:34,500 I'm not going to need to three minute mark, which is insane for making an issue up to this council. 120 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:40,960 And my concludes our public comment. 121 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,860 Thank you Rachel. 122 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:54,120 With that, we are done with our public comment, and we'll move to our consent agenda. 123 00:10:55,140 --> 00:10:57,580 We've got one item on the consent agenda. 124 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:11,040 Before we move on, one to thank our people who gave testimony today. 125 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:23,260 And for your work on the charter committee, Mr. and I, but for Mr. Wayne Albert, this is like me speaks to us every week, 126 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:25,520 has how do we get resolution? 127 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,420 What has been done to follow up with him? 128 00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:32,580 So I will speak to a little bit. 129 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:34,500 We have multiple people. 130 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:40,520 to speak to Mr. Ober. I've spent considerable amount of time with a chief Goldberg spent 131 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:47,800 a considerable amount of time. The folks within the city's managers office have also spent 132 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:55,760 considerable amount of time. So we're not quite sure how we answer the questions, but we have 133 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:03,340 actually many of us have spent a lot of time with Mr. Ober to no avail. So it's not something where 134 00:12:03,340 --> 00:12:13,160 We haven't actually tried our best to answer questions and give feedback and try to understand exactly what we're, you know, where the, where the, where the notion is that we're falling down. 135 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:25,420 I know Chief Goldberg has spent considerable amount of time with the questions that have been asked of our police department has been very thorough and clear, including other individuals and those conversations also. 136 00:12:25,420 --> 00:12:41,100 So, we've done our best, and if there's anything else that we can work on, then anybody else here's we're happy to do it, but I've spent a considerable amount of time with Mr. Over myself personally. 137 00:12:42,460 --> 00:12:43,960 Yeah, that's a great question. 138 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:45,740 I appreciate the question. 139 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:50,560 All right. 140 00:12:51,140 --> 00:12:52,080 Councillor James Dixon. 141 00:12:56,220 --> 00:12:56,420 Thank you. 142 00:12:56,420 --> 00:12:57,020 Thank you, Mayor. 143 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:57,480 I'm here. 144 00:12:58,180 --> 00:12:59,860 And I'll put it on just a few minutes. 145 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,840 I just want to say again. 146 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:03,160 Thank you to Chair for concerns. 147 00:13:03,340 --> 00:13:06,040 And everyone else on the Trucker Review Committee. 148 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,040 And I'm warm. 149 00:13:07,180 --> 00:13:08,380 It's also a couple. 150 00:13:08,620 --> 00:13:12,100 Councillor Hinton and I, I know we might volunteer quite a bit. 151 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,460 Maybe we can sit down with Mr. Oberg and again here. 152 00:13:16,220 --> 00:13:20,720 It's concerns, and then also seeing where they should interpret is that, but the things 153 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,200 that we're going to be focusing on over this next year, especially since we're going 154 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,320 to be also in the East County, but can you say that some of them are coming up to our next 155 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,880 few months. 156 00:13:30,340 --> 00:13:33,560 That's all welcome to be going to our start, the world and track over here. 157 00:13:36,060 --> 00:13:38,500 I'm sure we can make that happen for the two of you. 158 00:13:42,330 --> 00:13:43,390 Any other comments? 159 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:48,680 All right. 160 00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:50,820 With that, we're moved to our consent agenda. 161 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,080 We have one item on this consent agenda, and that is the order to private this 162 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,500 purchase of lifesaving equipment, cardiac monitors, defibrillators, and chest compression devices. 163 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:05,480 Council, do we have any questions or anything in regards to this agenda item? 164 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,240 I would love to move the considered agenda. 165 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,020 See one. 166 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:12,880 Excellent. 167 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Thank you very much. 168 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,340 Oh second. 169 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Councillor Morales has the motion and Councillor Junirchi has the second any further discussion. 170 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,300 Councillor Jones, Dixon. 171 00:14:23,140 --> 00:14:30,880 So what I just said, one question and we go to everyone I'm not participating in, in this council, we're in this agenda item. 172 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,820 I know it's not all in two groups. 173 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:34,180 And let's list it. 174 00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:35,440 And then the other staff members. 175 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:40,830 So what's the question? 176 00:14:48,590 --> 00:14:51,450 Councillor Jones, the executive is still there. 177 00:14:52,390 --> 00:14:52,590 Yes. 178 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:58,750 On the second page of the agenda item, it shows everyone what we're participating. 179 00:14:59,370 --> 00:14:59,970 I did really show that. 180 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,380 Secondary law read the view to the general item of the code that is spoken from. 181 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Is it a whole other place of all sorts of citizen, peak news is lame and within Judge Review by General staff? 182 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:14,820 I would say, the case I'm going to notice that sentence specific. 183 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,520 It's not a big language, support it, but what you don't fear if there's a reason why. 184 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:24,260 I think we weren't specifically noted on who participated in the review. 185 00:15:29,020 --> 00:15:29,980 Got it. 186 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:59,300 Nina Vetter City Manager. On the specific agenda item, CRI that's being referenced, we listed 187 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:04,180 the offices that the item went through and not the individual people, such as an inconsistency 188 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:08,420 from how it was submitted, but it did still go through all the appropriate permits. 189 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Great, thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you, Councilor Jones, Dixon. Are there any other questions? 190 00:16:19,230 --> 00:16:23,970 All right, we've got the motion. We've got the second to approve. All of us in favor, please 191 00:16:23,970 --> 00:16:27,150 the fact that I'm in the opposite side. 192 00:16:29,370 --> 00:16:32,130 Motion carries unanimously. Thank you so very much. 193 00:16:33,730 --> 00:16:38,150 We'll move now to our council business section. We've got a number of items on the council 194 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:44,630 business section, but it actually doesn't look as daunting as it actually is. So without we 195 00:16:44,630 --> 00:16:51,310 will start off on item E1, which is our financial roadmap update. But before we get started on that, 196 00:16:51,310 --> 00:17:01,170 There is a request that we take item E10 before items E8 and 9. 197 00:17:01,850 --> 00:17:09,350 So council item E10 which is resolution dissolving the 2021 is the 2023 city of 198 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:17,590 question, city, charter review committee, move that up to just after C7. So take C10 and then 199 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:26,030 C8 and C9 to have that discussion. I mean, E, I apologize, that's right. E 10 move up before we 200 00:17:26,030 --> 00:17:28,170 this have the next two discussions. 201 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,260 I don't think it was a mistake. It was the order I think they 202 00:17:34,260 --> 00:17:40,750 were presented, but having the dissolution conversation is probably more appropriate before we 203 00:17:40,750 --> 00:17:41,770 to the other resolutions. 204 00:17:43,630 --> 00:17:45,310 So I see you, yes, this is Safe Thumbs Up. 205 00:17:45,530 --> 00:17:47,810 All right, we'll make that a, make that adjustment. 206 00:17:49,050 --> 00:17:50,450 Now we'll go to item E1. 207 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:53,850 Again, which is the financial work map update. 208 00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:56,370 We're also going to have an update on the Gresham Safety 209 00:17:56,370 --> 00:17:56,650 Levy. 210 00:17:57,010 --> 00:17:58,750 So I'll turn it over to Sharon Monahan and, 211 00:18:00,390 --> 00:18:00,910 John Horick. 212 00:18:01,910 --> 00:18:02,390 Thank you. 213 00:18:02,490 --> 00:18:04,570 And good evening, Mayor and members of Council. 214 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:07,350 I'm Sharon Monahan, budget and finance director with the city. 215 00:18:07,910 --> 00:18:09,690 And I'm joined by John Horick 216 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:11,510 from DHM Research. 217 00:18:15,910 --> 00:18:18,930 And we have two main topics that we'll be covering tonight. First, I'll be 218 00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:23,750 providing some quick follow-up information on questions that Council raised when we met last 219 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:29,070 month on the financial roadmap. Then most of our time we'll be spent talking through the post-election 220 00:18:29,070 --> 00:18:31,670 analysis that has been done by DHM. 221 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:37,400 Most questions were from the June 6 meeting. First off, 222 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:42,180 there's a question about how much funding is received from the county for homeless services and whether 223 00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:49,200 secure additional resources. For fiscal year 2324, the total for from the county for 224 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:55,760 homeless services is 573,000 and a little bit of change. That covers staffing for 225 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,140 two homeless service specialists positions plus a little bit for an outreach 226 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:05,480 program cost for client assistance and additional program cost for rent assistance. 227 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,860 Staff have met with the Joint Office of Homeless Services and initiated 228 00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:14,720 conversations to see if we could secure additional funding to cover the two positions that 229 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,220 would have been included in the levee. However, no conclusion or further information is available 230 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:25,860 at this time. There was also a question about whether the county could fund the mobile integrated 231 00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:31,920 health positions that would have been in the levee. AMR has provided some funding that is available 232 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:37,480 to support the capital and materials and services associated with the program. The ongoing revenue 233 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,160 was not enough to support additional positions. 234 00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:45,020 There's also a question about whether the county could fund the police department but 235 00:19:45,020 --> 00:19:48,000 behavioral health unit since it is mental health related. 236 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,860 Conversations with chief Goldberg and others indicate that this would be highly unlikely 237 00:19:52,860 --> 00:19:58,400 as a county-spacing budget cuts and are trying to secure grant funding for their own BHU program. 238 00:19:59,140 --> 00:19:59,980 That said, they're happy. 239 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:10,180 We have been discussions about possible coordinated efforts for combined BHU grant and program. These will continue to see if there's a mutually beneficial model available. 240 00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:17,180 Additionally, there's a question about whether we could secure funding from the state to support youth violence prevention. 241 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:27,160 Prior to the fiscal year that just started, we were funded at $2 million per by NEM. We had asked, but were not approved for an increase to $4 million. 242 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:33,140 We were approved, however, to continue funding at the $2 million level, which was good news. 243 00:20:35,610 --> 00:20:39,270 Cancer also had questions about the availability and usage of grants. 244 00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:44,590 The city has a strong track record of securing grant funding for many different program areas. 245 00:20:45,250 --> 00:20:56,190 The actual amounts can vary widely from year to year, and specific reporting can be challenging as a timeline between grant application, grant award, and actual receipt of grant funds, 246 00:20:56,190 --> 00:20:58,470 can span multiple years. 247 00:20:58,750 --> 00:21:01,190 And while most grants operate on a reimbursement basis, 248 00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:04,190 some like Arba provide revenue upfront 249 00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:07,090 and allow for expenditure across multiple years. 250 00:21:08,170 --> 00:21:10,870 Total grant revenues received in recent years. 251 00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:16,430 For fiscal year 2021, we received $10.9 million in grant revenue. 252 00:21:16,890 --> 00:21:22,890 For fiscal year 2122, we received $19.4 million in grant revenue. 253 00:21:22,890 --> 00:21:34,030 And for fiscal year 2223 were at least over of 21.5 million dollars and still closing out the fiscal year so that number might change slightly. 254 00:21:34,850 --> 00:21:40,490 Primary sources have been the American Rescue Plan Act and prior to that from CARES Act funding. 255 00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:48,250 Additionally, the CDBG Home Programs and various transportation infrastructure grants make up a good portion of that. 256 00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:59,670 Each year also includes a number of specific police and fire-related grants, collectively those have recently been running around $600,000 to $800,000 a year. 257 00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:05,550 What we do seek out grant opportunities as much as we can, there are various elements to consider. 258 00:22:06,370 --> 00:22:08,670 First and foremost, is simply what is available. 259 00:22:09,370 --> 00:22:14,310 But also what ranking criteria may apply, and whether that aligns with our goals and priorities, 260 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:22,430 Also, what match obligations may be required, and what reporting, tracking, and other compliance-related activities may be involved. 261 00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:28,450 Other considerations are generally though rules against what is called supplanting. 262 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:33,250 That is the grant provider won't typically pay for something we were already funding. 263 00:22:34,110 --> 00:22:40,550 Usually they do require a new program, which may not help us when it comes to addressing our current funding challenges. 264 00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:45,990 Also, there may be strings related to program implementation that may not align with 265 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:50,030 their goals and priorities, so we do have to understand what requirements come with 266 00:22:50,030 --> 00:22:51,090 any outside funding. 267 00:22:52,370 --> 00:22:57,470 There was also a question regarding what funding we receive from or through other governmental 268 00:22:57,470 --> 00:22:58,210 entities. 269 00:22:58,910 --> 00:23:04,850 This could include federal, state, county, metro, and other cities, and in addition to grants, 270 00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:09,790 this could include revenue such as state shared revenues from alcohol and cigarettes, gas taxes, 271 00:23:09,790 --> 00:23:17,270 are shared to the county business income tax and payments that we receive from other cities for services provided to them. 272 00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:24,170 All 12, these revenues have been totaling $60 to $70 million per year in recent years. 273 00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:33,310 For fiscal year 2021, this was actually 25% of all of the revenue that came into the city that year. 274 00:23:36,140 --> 00:23:41,200 We also wanted to touch on a few activities that are underway regarding elements of the financial roadmap. 275 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,180 Now that the budget adoption has been completed, we're looking further into other areas 276 00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:51,020 addressed in the financial roadmap, and these include the three topics listed here. 277 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:56,400 Regarding districts, we have done an initial assessment of potential impacts to residents 278 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,200 through the Equal North Wester Report, as well as the Parks Long-term Funding Study 279 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,920 has also looked at districts. 280 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,640 This included research into the steps that needed to be taken and the timeline. 281 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:23,020 Staff has contacted the Special District Association of Oregon for further guidance and will be reaching out to vendors to ascertain costs of a potential feasibility study, which would be the next logical step for us in analyzing what a district could mean. 282 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:33,040 When we find out the budget impact of that study, as well as a required involvement of staff, we will be able to determine the timing of that work and we will let you know what we find out on that. 283 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:39,480 We'll also be updating cost analysis, cost of service analysis related to the various contracts with other jurisdictions. 284 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:46,000 And that concludes the comments I had to share, and I wanted to pause briefly if there's any questions or feedback, 285 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,020 and then turn it over to John for this presentation. 286 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:54,380 Thank you very much, Sharon. Any questions for Sharon at this point on that date? 287 00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:59,010 Seeing none. 288 00:25:02,090 --> 00:25:25,710 So, just a question on the special district's discussion, trying to understand what the steps forward the years talking about in this special district's association, in finding out what are the next steps looking like, are they going to be implemented one way or another to be doing a feasibility study, et cetera, or what are we looking at there. 289 00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:32,750 Understanding the timing of the amount of work and the cost of a feasibility study is really the next the next step 290 00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:40,430 That we would be looking at with vendors to understand what that cost would be and understand how that fits into our budget and and over all timeline 291 00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:48,190 Okay, there's definitely some significant work involved in in doing that so at this point there is not it is not like on the plan 292 00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:55,050 We are doing a feasibility study period. It's Gregory to look into the costs and whether this is something that can be done 293 00:25:55,050 --> 00:25:57,630 Correct, and where that fits within the budget, yes. 294 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,940 I'm going to actually give you a little clarification there. 295 00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:12,060 It's actually in our plan, so I mean, I think the timing of the budget item is something 296 00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:12,980 that needs to be discussed. 297 00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:19,260 I mean, as we do on everything, but it's actually in the plan, actually identified for this year 298 00:26:19,260 --> 00:26:26,820 in our three-year financial sustainability plan, so I mean, you know, we can't just prove 299 00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:32,900 something without finding out what the finances are going to be, but the council did approve 300 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,640 taking a look at doing the deeper guidance and potentially the feasibility study of a fire 301 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,220 district or additional districts, because I think fire districts are both going to identify 302 00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:48,520 but Nina, I'll let you fill in to make sure I didn't say anything that was not correct. 303 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,800 Well you jumped in exactly where I was going to say we had council that asked us to look into 304 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,480 fire and parks and recreation district. So that's on the financial roadmap is to research both 305 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,180 and like you just stated that's our next step is what is the cost of this of the feasibilities 306 00:27:05,180 --> 00:27:09,840 that you're going to be? Do we have existing budget dollars for it if we don't? How do we figure that out? 307 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,320 So that's where we're at with the district aspect of the financial roadmap right now. So it is moving forward 308 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,500 per council direction. We'll follow back up on me no more. 309 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Yeah, I just want to make sure that that we are moving forward with the feasibility. 310 00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:32,360 I know a few two years ago we had actually allocated dollars in the budget for feasibility 311 00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:33,900 study. 312 00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:43,860 That was under our previous city manager, actually two city managers go, you have David. 313 00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:55,040 Yeah, two years, three managers ago, I remember a discussion about having allocated some 314 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:02,320 resources for that. Did anything come out of that? Are those resources available still? 315 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:10,360 And there was talk about maybe getting grants, I think Metro government has funds to help cities 316 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:14,920 cover the cost of feasibility, so I don't know if there was fall-up done there. 317 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,020 I don't believe we would still have funds from several years ago for the dedicated to 318 00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:23,040 a specific project. 319 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,920 There was a work done last year as part of the initial financial roadmap process, the Equal 320 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,700 Northwest study that we recent to you, this past week, so there was some preliminary work done. 321 00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:38,680 And then I haven't heard about the Metro Grant Opportunities are happy to look at potential 322 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,120 grants to cover the cost, we'll see what's available. 323 00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:47,760 Yeah, I do the time it was Councilor Shirley Credit who had told us about those grants now it's obviously 324 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,960 Councilor Aston since then so I think we should follow up. 325 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,440 So what's the timeline for this? 326 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,780 We are currently doing the research talking to the vendors to get the cost estimate so that 327 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:08,360 will take us at least I would say through the next month to identify with this cost and what 328 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,440 the scope is going to look like of the feasibility study because are understanding from 329 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,520 And the preliminary work that was done by EcoNorthless is this is quite the undertaking, 330 00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:23,920 particularly do a full comprehensive feasibility study and unpack all of the financial 331 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,640 and logistical implications of moving to a district. 332 00:29:27,340 --> 00:29:28,400 So it's a big project. 333 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,400 So it's a, we need at least the next month to figure out what the cost and scope is going to look like. 334 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:38,420 But once we have a little bit more information, we'll be happy to update Council as we're going towards the next step. 335 00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:41,220 So keep you informed as we move through the process. 336 00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:49,840 I think my last question, maybe, or suggestion is, or both, are we engaging the cities of 337 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,160 child health, wherever you would village and unincorporated? 338 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,980 And the current, I think there's a current special district that exists, yeah, I'll be included. 339 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,700 Putting them in the conversations around the feasibly city and cost sharing of what that would cost. 340 00:30:05,940 --> 00:30:12,700 We continue to have conversations with them. I think the three cities and ferry to September but having conversations about this for a long time. 341 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,200 So those conversations continue from the perspective of doing the analysis. 342 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,640 We need to look at the city of Gresham's impact on the city of Gresham in particular. 343 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:35,440 So while we can also, as a group, talk about impacts to other cities, that could be done as a supplemental project. 344 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:42,840 The first and foremost, we need the feasibility study and the comprehensive analysis to focus on the impacts of the city of Gresham and the city of Gresham's general fund. 345 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,020 So that would be what we will prioritize as the impact to us. 346 00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:59,040 But certainly there will be further steps that will include if Council was wanting to move forward would include other entities in that conversation, but it really should start with the impacts to us as an organization. 347 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:08,720 Yeah, I just know that it'll currently were contracting for those who may not know we're contracting our fire services to all of these different areas. 348 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:17,200 And it's not always not everyone's paying the same, I think we may be paying a larger share to that. 349 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,940 So, when we're accounting for the impact on our residents in question, 350 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,680 if people were paying a more equitable amount, 351 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,540 I'm assuming that we get some benefit out of that as well. 352 00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:33,000 Our residents would, if the other cities were paying. 353 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:40,620 So I guess what I'm saying is other cities do impact what the impact will be on our residents 354 00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:43,440 and so I hate to not have them in the conversation. 355 00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:49,100 Certainly that is one of the items I mentioned that we are working on updating our 356 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:54,520 cost of service analysis so that we do have a true understanding of what it is costing us 357 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,220 to provide that service and can update those contracts accordingly. 358 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:07,520 Those contracts are actually up in 2025 with the other cities, so we will be starting negotiations 359 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:14,700 here shortly and certainly understanding that timeline of a district from the consultant 360 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:18,680 who did the preliminary work, it's about 24 months, so we will need to address the contracts 361 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:24,220 of the other cities before we are able to move forward with any other district or anything else, 362 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,320 so we will be addressing that first and foremost. 363 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:34,020 I'm just a brief response, so I do get an opportunity to meet with the other three mayors 364 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:34,480 regularly. 365 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,740 This is one of the key topics that you can imagine, because the initial economic 366 00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:47,980 less study that we had recent to us shows that if we were to look at potentially going 367 00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:51,900 to the same structure or similar structure has probably just returned our cost would go up by 368 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:59,940 percent. The other three cities go up anywhere from 70 to 80 percent. So that's when the other 369 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:04,840 mayors heard those numbers that you're going to imagine. Those numbers were quite substantial 370 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:11,300 for them. I talked about roughly $2 million increase and very roughly about a million dollar 371 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:21,800 increase over what they pay for our current contracts based on the eco-nothless study. So they were 372 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,920 setting us for the same services, so it's interesting, it'll be interesting to see all the 373 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,680 information once we are able to do a full feasibility study at Pasadena Uchi. 374 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,360 So getting all the deeper into this topic, I'm aware that there was a surfer council at 375 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:42,500 one point that was just banning apparently not maybe as effective for a question as a tool 376 00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:51,280 as we had hoped at the time, but feel like most jurisdictions were at the table during those 377 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:57,280 discussions and that the recommendation at the end of that was to move forward on a feasibility 378 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:06,760 study, I am just curious if that information is still available to us versus like reinventing 379 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,620 the wheel on some of those discussions or understanding what the other cities want to do, 380 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,780 what we're being completed and whether many of that time was potentially put aside for 381 00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:24,120 feasibility study. Sure, I could speak to a little bit of the kind of results of the 382 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:30,220 safer council. You received a presentation, I can't remember, but here at this 383 00:34:30,220 --> 00:34:34,800 point, it's been a while from our former Fire Chief Snyder that had some of the 384 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,660 results of the analysis from the safer council. There analysis on that part was 385 00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:46,580 mostly focused on response times. They didn't do a district feasibility study, so 386 00:34:46,580 --> 00:34:48,820 that was what the data was, that was presented to Council. 387 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,860 The other thing that was completed was an analysis 388 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,740 of the condition of our facilities, and that is going to be 389 00:34:56,740 --> 00:34:59,980 very useful when we begin work on another piece of our... 390 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:08,460 Financial Roadmap, which is the bond initiative to address our fire facilities. So there is some preliminary work that was done on that front as well that will be helpful. 391 00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:18,190 All right. Any more questions before we move to John Hoverick with the agent? 392 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:20,590 All right. John. 393 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:26,970 Thank you, Mayor and Council. Let's see where we're queued up here. 394 00:35:29,220 --> 00:35:29,220 Okay. 395 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:30,740 I'll pause. 396 00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:34,760 Well, while we'll get this up, I'm John Harvard D.H.M. Research, where an independent public 397 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,180 opinion and policy firm is different ways to describe what we do, one would be Emma Polster. 398 00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:42,900 I'd like to say that my job is to ask people what sort of communities they want to 399 00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:43,600 live in. 400 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,060 We are fortunate to be able to work on all sorts of different issues, education, transportation, 401 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,040 healthcare, and of course we work at many communities on local funding measures. 402 00:35:52,820 --> 00:35:58,600 D.H.M. has worked with the city of Gresham many times in the past, on funding measures 403 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:04,600 as well as other community satisfaction and priority surveys and research, DTM was not engaged 404 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:12,140 at all with the safety level. So coming to this review analysis from the outside, we have 405 00:36:12,140 --> 00:36:19,960 certainly experience and knowledge about the city, but we're not engaged with the, with the 406 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:25,260 level. I'm going to spend just a few days, this deck is about 60 some slides and I'm going to skip 407 00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:28,580 a lot, I'm not going to go through everything but I'm going to try to highlight a few things 408 00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:32,240 that I think are most important for this evening. 409 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:37,160 One, just to ground you, what was the research purpose here? 410 00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:39,500 The public safety level was close. 411 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:39,900 That's right. 412 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,480 And so, disappointing didn't quite get over the hump, 413 00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:47,960 but also, I need to then look back. 414 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,380 What can we learn from this last election to be able to apply 415 00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:56,280 to future policy making and potential future elections to be successful? 416 00:36:58,020 --> 00:37:04,800 This analysis, like I said, came from the outside, from independent review, looked a lot 417 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:12,060 at the election results here in Gresham, geographic poison turned out, each turn out, considered 418 00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:24,000 how potentially the multiple county capital gains tax influence turned out and the result 419 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,960 And additionally, I've conducted a number of stakeholder interviews with individuals who 420 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:36,960 were engaged in one way or another with the efforts in this lovely sum, to see staffers, 421 00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:43,340 members of the various committees and coalitions that supported the effort to union representatives. 422 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,940 The list is in the report, there's been some additional conversations I've had since. 423 00:37:47,940 --> 00:37:50,640 This was provided to Council, so it's been, this will be updated. 424 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:58,620 So just quickly some historical context, this is questions, at least this 2020, the funding 425 00:37:58,620 --> 00:38:04,500 measures that have been on the ballot. The cannabis tax is certainly the outlier, every 426 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:08,680 cannabis tax and all are going to pass and pass overwhelmingly. It did here in Gresham 427 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:20,620 2, but if you take that one off, the last year, every single funding measure in Gresham 428 00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:25,080 has passed in Gresham. And so, you know, you can look at this, 429 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,740 why do I think a couple different ways? One is the end-in-game majority. Obviously, that's 430 00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:33,040 what matters. Before it, I present to you know, the highest you've been. 431 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:38,260 So lots of things concerning historical context had to go while we put into place 432 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:43,420 effectively to get to that rate. Things are difficult to pass in Gresham. 433 00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:47,780 Certainly history would suggest so. And this was the case here too. 434 00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:54,760 These are just quickly public safety, I'll walk you through all these public examples and just one second. 435 00:38:55,420 --> 00:39:00,400 We've got a couple of questions, but I'd like to ask these questions, but try and hold that question to the end. 436 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,540 So John, because some of the questions may get answered, but we have a couple of questions really quick. 437 00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:07,540 Thank you. 438 00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:08,040 Thank you. 439 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:13,740 When you say taxes have it, city property tax hasn't passed in the last two decades. 440 00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:17,940 Did you account for the Metro bonds or the high school bond that we used? 441 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:20,240 So these are specifically city of Gresham measure. 442 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,120 So I haven't done an analysis of all the other funding measures in the bout for other jurisdictions 443 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,880 and overlap with Gresham. 444 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,140 But so these are only Gresham measures. 445 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:34,560 There could be certainly probably some measures that got majority support in the city of Gresham. 446 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,420 But just not at the city at the city level. 447 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:37,920 That's good question. 448 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,940 We go through all these, but there were 28 public safety measures on the ballot in or 449 00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:48,840 cost Oregon this last election, you can see most of them did pass, you can take a look 450 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,040 at it more or closer than you have time. 451 00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:55,620 The thing that I would want to emphasize, you can't see it on the screen if you're in the room, 452 00:39:57,060 --> 00:39:58,620 because of the images there. 453 00:39:58,620 --> 00:39:59,980 But these are the measurements though. 454 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:12,380 We're on the ballot that it costs ore again, across ore again, this last election from a 2023 that failed, and in the 455 00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:19,260 column at the right, you'll see, was it a new money ask? Was it a new levy? Was it a levy rate increase? Was it a bond? 456 00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:28,220 Every single measure that failed was a revenue increase. So no renewals, those past, 457 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:35,640 fly from driving past, but just to say, getting new money is really hard. It's not just 458 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,680 hiring a question that's hard across every community across the state. Once the 459 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:45,080 loveiest pass, the likelihood is going to pass again is very high. But getting that first 460 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:51,320 ask done is a real challenge. This is just to give you a little context about what your 49% 461 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,320 means, what it means compared to other public safety levies and what it means for other 462 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:02,680 communities that ask for new money. So little geographic analysis. So this is the results 463 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:12,600 by precinct. The most important thing to my eye about these results is that the support 464 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:25,300 went from 44% to 53% across the city. Now that's a difference. So it's three I think 465 00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:30,200 that is the one part of the community is 20% and another part of the community is 80%. 466 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,960 Okay, so there was relative parity across the city. 467 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:42,020 I'm not sure if that was kind of obvious after immediately after the election, but that is the sort of defining here. 468 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,920 I will tell you in this, and I also, you'll see it in the foot, and I'll still look at the report. 469 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,620 There is one tiny, tiny little precinct that only has about 180 voters. 470 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,640 I've not included in this analysis because of those things off without providing some meaning. 471 00:41:57,020 --> 00:42:01,060 So just, if you think hate is one more precinct out there there is, but it's very, very tiny. 472 00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,860 And so it's, it's can confuse things. 473 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,620 But broadly, support is fairly even across the city, which does make some of the analysis a little challenging, 474 00:42:13,180 --> 00:42:14,760 but I'll start to show you what's most important. 475 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:23,840 Turn out range fairly considerably across the city from 17% to 37% special elections, you know, turn out around 30% free typical. 476 00:42:25,060 --> 00:42:28,940 There are some variation which I'll show you in a second, but that's what you should expect. 477 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:43,660 Turn out in anything but a general election tends to be old, and here you can see two tones of the voters in this special election over 55 and older. 478 00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:55,360 Okay, so you think about a special election and the voters are going to turn out the values interest priorities of that demographic group are going to dominate and whether or not something successful or fails. 479 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,800 This is not unusual to question about unusual special elections, but this is the reality of who turned out to vote. 480 00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:09,830 This is the most impactful variable and predicting whether or not something was successful. 481 00:43:10,650 --> 00:43:16,110 That's a partnership. If you look at, in the last side, partners turn out percentage by 482 00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:20,650 party that's a percentage of Democrats for Republicans on affiliated voters, the NAV and 483 00:43:20,650 --> 00:43:28,430 other voters, Constitution, green, other parties, that's a turn out percentage. At the right 484 00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:32,890 side, you can see the vote share. So what percentage of the electorate were Democrats for 485 00:43:32,890 --> 00:43:37,750 Republicans on affiliated and other? You'll see that on the left, Republicans turn out more 486 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:44,730 than Democrats did. 40% versus 33. Democrats still made up a plurality of the electorate, 487 00:43:44,850 --> 00:43:48,610 so 43% versus 34% for Republicans. 488 00:43:50,650 --> 00:43:53,250 Turn out, this is turn out of special elections 489 00:43:53,250 --> 00:44:00,550 since 2017. I choose 2017 because in 2016, Oregon initiated automatic motor voter registration 490 00:44:00,550 --> 00:44:06,250 that makes some of the partisan and it also is more complicated if you go before that time. 491 00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:12,650 The gray line is total turnout, so turnout among all voters, a total turnout was 25%. 492 00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:17,570 If you look at the Democrat, that's blue versus the Republican versus the Red. 493 00:44:17,810 --> 00:44:23,630 There you can see that historically the gap was larger this year than other special elections. 494 00:44:27,410 --> 00:44:28,790 Ingression was unusual. 495 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:31,550 So this is the turnout percentage. 496 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:37,950 The white blue bars are aggression, and then I wanted to have some comparisons to other communities. 497 00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:43,570 Importantly, communities did not have the Multnomah County capital gains tax on the ballot. 498 00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:51,050 Question, turn out, well, this is Republican turnout, and then I can talk to why I'm choosing that. 499 00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:57,890 The question Republican turnout was 31% and 2017 and 2016 and then 20, then 40. 500 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,760 A big increase in Republican turnout for aggression, but if you look at blackness in Washington counties, you don't see a significant increase in Republican turnout. 501 00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:19,560 To me, this is as Republican's turn in aggression turned out, most likely in the action to the capital gains tax that was not on the ballot in adjacent communities. 502 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,960 You can see demographically where Democrats and Republicans all sit that for now. 503 00:45:28,740 --> 00:45:30,840 This is just a trend line. 504 00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:41,460 So this is how well the lobby did by precinct looking at the share of voters in that 505 00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:47,480 precinct that were registered Democrats, but the line goes up means it did better in precincts 506 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,280 with more Democrats. 507 00:45:48,820 --> 00:45:55,280 The important number at the bottom, I can, for it won't do a stats class, but that 0.2956, 508 00:45:56,020 --> 00:46:02,240 that tells me that 30% of the variance, 30% of the dots belong above of that line, can 509 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,720 be explained by the power of the ship. 510 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:12,340 When you look at the report, you can see lots of lines that are flat, which means that variable 511 00:46:12,340 --> 00:46:14,840 didn't explain anything or explain very well. 512 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,740 Well, this is the one variable that explains something. 513 00:46:20,590 --> 00:46:24,310 And just one other way to look at this, if you look at voter shares, this is the percentage 514 00:46:24,310 --> 00:46:28,050 of voters who turned out, but the share of the electorate who are Democrats, Republicans 515 00:46:28,050 --> 00:46:30,310 are not affiliated in third party. 516 00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:36,550 You can see in 2023, there's a nine percentage point gap between Democrats and Republicans, 517 00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:39,910 43 percent Republicans, or it's a 34 percent. 518 00:46:40,050 --> 00:46:45,430 We, excuse me, 43 percent Democrats versus 34 percent Republicans, and compared that 519 00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:51,530 previous special elections. In 2019, for example, there's a 22 percentage point gap between 520 00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:57,410 Democrats and Republicans. This was an unusually, Democrat, excuse me, usually Republican 521 00:46:58,190 --> 00:47:03,190 leaning or less Democratic electorate than special elections and Christians passed. 522 00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:09,950 And it's more Republican than adjacent communities in Congress in Washington County, 523 00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:12,990 so there's something unique that was happening here in this election. 524 00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:15,690 Let's skip a bunch. 525 00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:18,430 The capital gains tax. 526 00:47:19,390 --> 00:47:24,430 So I think capital gains tax encouraging anti-tax orders to turn up to about more conservative 527 00:47:24,430 --> 00:47:29,270 Republican leaning turn up to about however the caveat to that. 528 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:38,510 So here's if you look at the vote for the capital gains tax compared to the vote for the 529 00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:45,830 You see that line is basically flat, and you see that R squared is 0.0409. 530 00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:53,390 That means just 4% of the variance is explained by how precincts voted in for the capital gains tax. 531 00:47:54,850 --> 00:48:01,510 So I think the capital gains, I think it caused Republicans to turn out, did not motivate progressive voters to turn out. 532 00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:08,350 But if you look at the precinct level, that relationship really isn't strong, and so I say that with some caveat. 533 00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:16,650 The other thing you might be wanting to know is, we're crying a curse across the community. 534 00:48:16,910 --> 00:48:19,950 The dad had an impact on support for a lot of the or not. 535 00:48:21,390 --> 00:48:22,770 These are crying incidents. 536 00:48:22,930 --> 00:48:26,330 The number of crying incidents by precinct that I got from a city of question. 537 00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:30,290 You can see the number of incidents very quite a bit across the city. 538 00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:38,170 But again, if you look at that, just plot it out on a line and see the trend line, very little 539 00:48:38,170 --> 00:48:44,990 relationship between crime rates and the vote, meaning that places that were most impacted 540 00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:51,890 by criminal activity were only marginally more likely to support a levee, the primarily 541 00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:55,110 or largely funded public safety place. 542 00:48:55,110 --> 00:49:00,690 Okay, it did not cause those voters to be more likely to support things. 543 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,980 So that's kind of the numbers. 544 00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,120 Then I did a number of stakeholder interviews. 545 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,320 These are the ones that I conducted when I put together this report. 546 00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:14,280 There are a couple of names not on here, including Hugh Harris and Shirley Cretac. 547 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,860 I'm hoping to have at least one more. 548 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,200 I will say that these are advocates, these are stakeholders, these are not everyday community members. 549 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,200 Okay, they're also not racially demographically 550 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,600 income-wise represented the community as a whole. 551 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,280 So I'm going to acknowledge that, 552 00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:34,240 but these are also people are well informed 553 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,140 about how the campaign unfolded 554 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:37,620 and did lots of community conversations. 555 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,040 I'm going to skip all of that sort of analysis, 556 00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:42,600 kind of the things we heard, 557 00:49:43,220 --> 00:49:44,480 and just sort of get to some key takeaways 558 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,760 and all pause for questions. 559 00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:47,840 So what went well, 560 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,700 there was a diverse coalition of supporters 561 00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:51,520 trusted among constituencies. 562 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,700 As you had a number of different coalitions together to do an advocacy and they represented 563 00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,980 different parts of the community, they will willing to do work, they will willing to 564 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,080 Ladies, money and no willing to do outreach. Not every community has that advantage when they're going 565 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:12,860 for funding measure. There's limited organized opposition. That is the most damaging thing to 566 00:50:12,860 --> 00:50:17,840 ballot measure when there's organized opposition. And I think that the wealthy funding generally align with 567 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:24,040 voter priorities. We can discuss that. But certainly, you know, concerns about safety, concerns about 568 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,540 But emergency response times are consistent with other priorities. 569 00:50:29,540 --> 00:50:33,340 The strongest predictor of why we support wise parties in turn out and this was a particularly 570 00:50:33,340 --> 00:50:36,380 conservative election, even for special elections in Krascham. 571 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,000 It is challenging to know exactly why Republicans or conservatives are motivated to turn 572 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,040 out or say the other way around, like progressive and Democrats were not, but I might best 573 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,900 My best read is that it was a mobile-mechanic capital gains tax. 574 00:50:54,080 --> 00:51:03,000 It is notable that voters were suspected by crime were not motivated to turn out of work for this measure. 575 00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:07,900 I do think that that requires and needs more community outreach to understand why. 576 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:15,440 Whether that's research or community engagement or working with leaders within those communities, but that's notable. 577 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,640 that that relationship didn't exist. 578 00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:24,560 I'd say the other thing is that I did hear from some stakeholders that perhaps conservative 579 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,960 voters were distinct client to support a public safety lobby that funded police. 580 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:36,020 Because of a belief or concern, the Muslim accounting district attorneys are not willing 581 00:51:36,020 --> 00:51:43,200 or able to prosecute those who are committing crime and so they didn't see a valuable connection 582 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,520 between more funding for police, if there wasn't going to be ultimate accountability. 583 00:51:55,220 --> 00:51:59,060 The other thing I heard quite a bit was the late decision to put it on the ballot made 584 00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:03,320 a very difficult for the city and for advocacy organizations and groups to do the community 585 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,300 outreach necessary. 586 00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:10,080 That was one of the most consistent themes among the individuals who I talked to. 587 00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:18,400 Another consistent theme on stakeholder is the community was confused and certain about what 588 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:24,640 happen to the police, fire, and parks fee if the lobby had passed, an inability to answer 589 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:32,020 that question directly to voters, cause some who have been inclined to vote yes on a measure 590 00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:38,040 like this, to vote no or to not turn out due to that uncertainty. And finally, some recommendations, 591 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,480 one is to invest in community outreach and public opinion research. Turn out, again, 25% 592 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,620 percent, not only do we need to know who voted no, but we need to know what we know 593 00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:52,700 people to turn out or to vote yes for those who didn't. It's a particularly among diverse communities, 594 00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:58,740 communities of color. I think that is the audience that we know least. I'll say that I know 595 00:52:58,740 --> 00:53:03,560 have less confidence to know why they voted or didn't vote the way that they did. 596 00:53:06,020 --> 00:53:06,720 I would recommend 597 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:10,920 rating until at least 2024 to go up to voters again if you choose to go up to voters again. You 598 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:16,150 technically would have time, at least on a, you could put something loud in November. The turn 599 00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:19,170 and November is likely to look very similar to the turnout in May. 600 00:53:19,710 --> 00:53:19,810 It's hard. 601 00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:24,230 It's would be difficult for me to say confidently could be successful 602 00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:25,490 with that same mix of others. 603 00:53:27,450 --> 00:53:30,330 I think it's more here from the stakeholders at least 604 00:53:30,330 --> 00:53:33,110 that a clear decision needs to be made about the future 605 00:53:33,110 --> 00:53:34,990 of the police fire and parks fee, 606 00:53:35,010 --> 00:53:37,090 and that needs to be clearly communicated to the community. 607 00:53:37,350 --> 00:53:41,990 So they have confidence within how much tax and fee burden they'll have 608 00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:42,830 in the future. 609 00:53:44,860 --> 00:53:54,440 $1.50, which is substantial as you got to 49%, I don't know if it was $1.25 or $1.90 610 00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:01,720 if I could see it if 50% plus $1 or not, but more likely than not, it helps gain support 611 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:08,460 rather than a road support, although less funding could change the mix of coalitions 612 00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:13,280 who would be willing to support a funding measure, and that's difficult to know for sure at 613 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:20,280 coin. Colors in management is going to remain critical in challenging. I certainly heard from 614 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,600 the folks that I talked to, you know, concerns about what was put on the ballot, concerns 615 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,220 about what potentially could be put on the ballot in the future, and differences in what their 616 00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:34,860 expectations and desires are. Gresham is close to a 50-50 community in terms of funding measures. 617 00:54:36,020 --> 00:54:43,240 The city must be in blocks up in unison in order for there to be community for voters to 618 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:51,060 yes, everything needs to go right in question. A divided community, a divided council with 619 00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:55,460 signal that things aren't going right, and I think without that it'll be very challenging 620 00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:59,880 to get something passed no matter what it is. Without it probably took more time than you're 621 00:54:59,880 --> 00:54:59,960 . 622 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,620 And so I'll stop and I can't any questions as long as I have me. 623 00:55:05,220 --> 00:55:13,120 Thank you, John. Greatly appreciate that. Looking at it in the London Mission just on paper is really good enough 624 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,440 and what you've added to, for us to consider actually helps out considerably. 625 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,100 With that, let's open it up for questions council. 626 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,000 Councillor Piazza. 627 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:42,960 Thank you, thank you for the report. I really think that it would be important to find out to do the next step of finding out the people who voted no and why they voted no and going that step forward and in talking to many different people from many different areas. 628 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:54,160 A lot of what we heard here is why they voted no. I didn't want the PFP. I didn't know what you were going to do with that. I was confused. I was confused about. 629 00:55:54,720 --> 00:56:02,300 The homeless services that was in there, I didn't understand why should I vote for more police when the DA is not going to, this is their thought. 630 00:56:02,780 --> 00:56:04,820 The DA is not going to prosecute them. 631 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:22,480 So many of these things, but I still need to know, I think we need to know as a city, why people voted no, and then we need to figure out how we can educate or revamp revitalize something later down the road. 632 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:35,180 And of course, obviously we can't do it this November, and it sounds like you're saying don't do it in May, because we'll get the same amount of vote, but do next November when you have all these people voting because of the presidential election. 633 00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:43,240 If I said that, my intent is to say, this will be the number of 2021-23 electorate will likely look very, if you want to about it, 634 00:56:43,340 --> 00:56:45,940 would likely look very similar to the May 2023-23 ballot. 635 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:54,100 The May 2024 electorate is much more difficult to predict, because turnout in that election, 636 00:56:54,340 --> 00:56:59,480 this presidential primary years, is highly variable depending on what's happening at the top of the ticket. 637 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:08,540 So it's say 2008 was very different when the 2012, when 2012, when 2012, you have a Democratic incumbent running in a competitive Republican. 638 00:57:10,740 --> 00:57:13,140 So November is more predictable. 639 00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:21,960 I'd say either of those electorates have a likely to be more favorable to aggression than November 2023 or what not May 2023 was. 640 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,440 Either one, May of 2024 or November 24. 641 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:31,460 So you weren't choosing one. I was choosing one. I think that we both more favourable. It's harder to know how much more favourable may 642 00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:35,120 We'll be because it's the presidential race well 643 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:41,720 Impact, turn out so great. And I just want to step in and remind folks there is a difference from when we would receive 644 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:49,100 Web a new. So from the financial standpoint, we would receive revenue in May 645 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:55,620 In one year, but if we went to November, we would wait yet another year before we would receive that revenue. 646 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,960 So definitely from a financial standpoint, there is a significant difference. 647 00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:01,760 And I have no expertise about that. 648 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:08,660 And I understand that that's why I was trying to clarify if there's no difference between in your opinion, 649 00:58:09,260 --> 00:58:18,300 May of 24 and November of 24, then obviously it would be who the city to be able to do all this in the timeframe of May of 24. 650 00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:22,560 But if there was a big difference, and you thought more potential for it to pass in November 651 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,620 of 24, then we have to consider that also. 652 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,080 All else being equal, all else being equal. 653 00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:34,680 This measure would have passed with the turnout, a reasonable, 654 00:58:37,060 --> 00:58:39,140 looking at May 2024 in the kind 655 00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:43,180 of look at past even in a more conservative electorate for a presidential primary. 656 00:58:43,860 --> 00:58:49,280 All of us been equal, this measure likely would have passed with a, with a, with a, may turn out. 657 00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:53,360 It also would have likely passed with an November 2020 for a turn out. 658 00:58:53,660 --> 00:59:01,160 All of us won't be equal, I mean, that, but yes, it's like measure would have passed with a more favorable electorate. 659 00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:10,760 I have a quick question about the answer to that, some of them are the seemed chief of police. 660 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:18,080 I'm a crew of incidents, you know, I'm still puzzled by that whole concept of the, 661 00:59:19,780 --> 00:59:26,140 did our team articulate whether or not these were responsive, type incidents, 662 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:32,440 or some of the proactive things that we do with those included, because I know some of our 663 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:38,300 statistics that include the reactant and the proactive work that we do, and if the numbers 664 00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:44,480 are proactive, then that could be a little bit of the explanation. It could be that 665 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:50,300 could be a potential analysis that could be done. This was me just looking at the total numbers 666 00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:54,960 of reports that were provided to me. I did not try to be analysis of the different types 667 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,960 of instance in the file. So that's that that may 668 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,180 I help provide clarity, but I haven't done that. 669 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,600 Next slide, I just got another quick question, you guys, too. Just a little bit of sentiment. 670 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,720 I think, I mean, you do work all over the state and other places. I mean, so you get to, I know, 671 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:19,260 DHM does, historically, it's done kind of an ordinary sentiment study, and it's always been something that's very 672 01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:26,260 informational about, you know, what folks are. Is there any part of the process, as if we were to look at the next level, 673 01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:30,820 that can inform us of how better to communicate with our community members. 674 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,540 Because I sometimes see this as, yeah, we've got this issue, but there's also a pretty significant disconnect sometimes, 675 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,100 with what we're trying to communicate and what's being heard. 676 01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:47,600 Is there any part of this process that would better inform us of how better to communicate with our community members 677 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,060 so that we can articulate exactly what we're seeing? 678 01:00:50,060 --> 01:00:53,580 because many times I get the question, well, we don't trust government. Why are you wasting 679 01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:58,200 all of our money when, in fact, we, as everybody knows, we have one of the lowest permeate 680 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,860 rates of any similar society in the entire, in the entire state of some of the societies 681 01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:06,340 and when we look at just Trabbell and Sandy, upper capital general fund revenue is substantially 682 01:01:06,340 --> 01:01:10,620 lower than theirs. I mean, so what we do with our dollar is substantial and comparison 683 01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:15,820 to just cities that are here in the region. And so those are misconceptions. I'm just wondering, 684 01:01:15,820 --> 01:01:23,100 How do we get informed as a city and as a community those of us who are that are very well and that are very 685 01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:28,300 I shouldn't say informed very well connected in regards to making trying to make stuff happen 686 01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:30,880 How do we get better at the messaging? 687 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,520 It's a big question that I have two thoughts. 688 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,340 One is perhaps a big industrial-wide global cynicism. 689 01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:56,660 There is a temptation I think of mine, community leaders, city leaders, to want to educate the public about the limitations of a property tax system, the fundamental challenges with the way we do revenue raising and limitations we can have on spending. 690 01:01:56,660 --> 01:02:07,400 And I get that, I would not use my time or energy to try to educate voters about those challenges. 691 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,520 More than I spend much time talking about the city's problems. 692 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,720 But do you best articulate the outcomes that are going to be delivered? 693 01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:23,300 The service benefits provisions that are going to be experienced. 694 01:02:25,820 --> 01:02:28,700 That's what voters primarily care about. 695 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,520 It's what they're going to receive, the lives of how they are also going to improve. 696 01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:37,520 The challenge is with the questions that are going to put into you, the program that 697 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:43,140 tax rates, or the fact that there's multiple jurisdictions that are taxing that are in 698 01:02:43,140 --> 01:02:45,200 question, and it may be confused about that. 699 01:02:45,940 --> 01:02:51,160 I wouldn't spend much time that communicator next that's such a big lift and hard and 700 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:56,060 not only now, why voters are going to vote yes or no on something, and there's a broad 701 01:02:56,060 --> 01:03:01,540 general statements, but it's sort of as a principle from which to build upon, that's 702 01:03:01,540 --> 01:03:02,900 what I'll be keeping in mind. 703 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,960 That, in general, but extremely helpful, thank you. 704 01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:06,940 Appreciate that. 705 01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:07,700 Pastor Jones, Dixon. 706 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,040 So you get close to the microphone. 707 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:09,760 You want to go next? 708 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,080 I'm just going to say the same exactly. 709 01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:11,740 You said. 710 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:12,600 I'm joking. 711 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:13,340 Thank you. 712 01:03:13,660 --> 01:03:15,420 I don't have any other additional comments. 713 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:16,880 Thank you. 714 01:03:17,340 --> 01:03:19,500 Any other questions, your comments at this point? 715 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:27,700 I want to add a comment from a constituent that sent me this letter and it goes just right 716 01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:32,280 along with what you said because what they said is winning voter approval, believe it 717 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:37,800 not, it's not about you, city, it's about them, it's about your constituents and the decision 718 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:43,420 comes down to what the constituents want, not what the city wants. So you kind of went along 719 01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:48,220 the same lines there. We portrayed the wrong kind of message, it was all about, oh we're going 720 01:03:48,220 --> 01:04:02,440 You're not going to have this and we're instead of the value of what this would do for people, so I just wanted to acknowledge and thank you because I mean I already knew that this was probably right, but it's right in line with that. 721 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,760 All right, anything else? 722 01:04:07,660 --> 01:04:14,780 Well, thank you very much. Great, we appreciate the presentation and talk about what those next steps are. 723 01:04:15,020 --> 01:04:18,520 You're in your future. Actually, the city manager need a better. 724 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:33,080 Can I ask for the council direction because I heard one council I mentioned that they're interested in us following up on John's recommendation to do for their public outreach and public opinion. 725 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,800 I want to make sure that we're comfortable with that as a next step. 726 01:04:37,340 --> 01:04:40,400 I actually said yes, I want to go to the next level of myself. 727 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:52,800 I guess I'll answer that by I just shared also some of the observations from the reported proposal that we could have done better with young people. 728 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,060 We could have done better with Democrats. 729 01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,960 And we could have done better with committee. 730 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:09,360 Is it impacted by crime? And so I would really focus our time to energy there and not continue to talk to the same 731 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:17,000 precincts and neighborhoods that we normally talk to, but to really go out and do community engagement with the 732 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:24,720 of no voters, but also people that decided not to vote. This is not motivate them to even vote on the issue. 733 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:38,580 And those are the three kind of constituencies that I heard, and maybe with the Republicans who voted against it to understand why, but it seemed like there was a big deficit amongst young people and Democrats to get the votes we needed. 734 01:05:44,930 --> 01:05:47,030 We have agreement, the condition, right? 735 01:05:47,650 --> 01:05:47,770 Yes. 736 01:05:48,590 --> 01:05:50,210 So you have direction at this point. 737 01:05:50,270 --> 01:05:51,290 Thank you very much. 738 01:05:52,070 --> 01:05:52,750 Thank you, Chairman. 739 01:05:52,810 --> 01:05:53,370 Thank you, John. 740 01:05:53,390 --> 01:05:53,630 Great. 741 01:05:53,630 --> 01:05:54,930 Appreciate it. 742 01:05:58,550 --> 01:05:58,870 All right. 743 01:05:58,870 --> 01:06:02,230 with that. We're going to initiate some Title IV comprehensive 744 01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:03,070 final minutes. 745 01:06:05,310 --> 01:06:07,930 So I believe we've got Ashley Miller 746 01:06:10,580 --> 01:06:12,580 and this is 747 01:06:12,580 --> 01:06:18,020 actually going to cover items E2 through E7. So E2 through E7. 748 01:06:32,170 --> 01:06:36,170 Hi. Oh, thank you very much. Maristof on City Council. Good evening. As 749 01:06:36,170 --> 01:06:39,290 you mentioned, her name is Ashley Miller. I am Gresham's interim urban 750 01:06:39,290 --> 01:06:44,030 design and planning director. I'm joined tonight with by Tara Wilcoxon. 751 01:06:44,030 --> 01:06:46,290 She is our comprehensive planning manager. 752 01:06:46,810 --> 01:06:49,910 We also have Jim Wheeler here, hiding out over there. 753 01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:51,510 These are development planning manager 754 01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:53,270 for the city of Gresham. 755 01:06:54,070 --> 01:06:55,870 So we're here to provide a brief presentation. 756 01:06:56,550 --> 01:07:00,170 I related to the initiation of six comprehensive planning projects. 757 01:07:00,570 --> 01:07:02,010 Typically, projects are initiated 758 01:07:02,010 --> 01:07:04,410 one at a time via the consent agenda. 759 01:07:05,170 --> 01:07:07,830 Comprehensive planning is actually at a unique point right now. 760 01:07:08,090 --> 01:07:09,970 We're staff of tackle the significant body 761 01:07:09,970 --> 01:07:11,970 of work over the last several years, 762 01:07:11,970 --> 01:07:14,350 And now I have some capacity to take on new projects. 763 01:07:15,370 --> 01:07:17,470 So the majority of the work over the past several years 764 01:07:17,470 --> 01:07:20,470 has really been related to state mandates 765 01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:23,130 and related code updates that we had to make. 766 01:07:23,650 --> 01:07:25,950 So as a result, many other Russian priority projects 767 01:07:25,950 --> 01:07:28,030 have been really put on the back burner. 768 01:07:28,650 --> 01:07:31,490 And we've had to shift staff resources around. 769 01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:35,730 So in light of new capacity and relatively limited 770 01:07:35,730 --> 01:07:38,370 state mandates at this time, knock-on wood, 771 01:07:39,050 --> 01:07:40,770 we've really been evaluating local priorities 772 01:07:40,770 --> 01:07:46,850 and how given our limited resources, staff can strategically tackle projects of the next few years. 773 01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:55,030 So this is I think the first time that Urban Design and Planning has taken a unique approach and initiated a multitude of projects at one time 774 01:07:55,030 --> 01:08:00,630 to really serve as a roadmap and a work plan guiding the work of the department over the next several years. 775 01:08:01,050 --> 01:08:07,370 So tonight we'll share preliminary plans for the upcoming projects and ask Council to consider initiating those projects. 776 01:08:09,010 --> 01:08:14,970 So, we just want to start by taking, you know, step back and really looking up the big picture. 777 01:08:15,310 --> 01:08:17,290 What is urban design and land use planning? 778 01:08:17,630 --> 01:08:19,150 Why is it important to the city? 779 01:08:19,750 --> 01:08:23,770 Urban design and planning is a process of collaboratively shaping how place will grow. 780 01:08:23,950 --> 01:08:26,250 It tackles big questions and big visions. 781 01:08:26,650 --> 01:08:29,250 Like, how do we improve and protect a place for residents? 782 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:31,830 Workers, visitors that come to our city. 783 01:08:31,970 --> 01:08:33,890 How do we plan parks for all to enjoy? 784 01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:38,670 streets that are safe for everyone, including people with mobility issues, how do we regulate 785 01:08:38,670 --> 01:08:44,110 where, how and what buildings can be built and really everything between those buildings? 786 01:08:46,030 --> 01:08:49,530 The Comprehensive Plan is a question of guiding land to your documents. 787 01:08:50,130 --> 01:08:54,950 It contains the question of land use regulations and processes and when staff update policies, 788 01:08:55,570 --> 01:09:00,830 standards and processes we do it by updating this plan. There are five volumes within the plan. 789 01:09:00,830 --> 01:09:05,730 Volume 1 is called findings and it contains the description of Gresham's physical features, 790 01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:12,630 land use history, and background. Volume 2 contains land use policies, goals, and action measures. 791 01:09:12,810 --> 01:09:17,150 This volume provides really a framework for the basis of all land use actions. 792 01:09:18,050 --> 01:09:22,030 Volume 3 is what's most frequently updated and discussed, the development code. 793 01:09:22,370 --> 01:09:25,610 It contains the standards and processes for development and preservation. 794 01:09:26,170 --> 01:09:30,410 It's used dozens of times per day at a planning counter that we have at the city. 795 01:09:30,410 --> 01:09:35,950 and by our planners and reviewing permits, and also this is what developers that are seeking 796 01:09:35,950 --> 01:09:41,070 to develop and aggression are generally looking at. Volume 4 regulates the city's transportation 797 01:09:41,070 --> 01:09:45,870 network, and then volume 5 is a capital improvement program, and it describes the city's 798 01:09:45,870 --> 01:09:51,250 facilities needs and they're relative importance over a five-year period. So comprehensive plans must 799 01:09:51,250 --> 01:09:56,810 comply with the state land use laws and goals, and then any changes that the plan must 800 01:09:56,810 --> 01:09:59,970 apply with the state law on the schools, but it also has to 801 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,380 To comply with Metro Regional Policies, and then the policies that are in the comprehensive plan itself. 802 01:10:09,220 --> 01:10:22,740 So this is a long range or comprehensive planning team focuses on updating this plan. Since the plan is intended to really reflect the community's vision for the future, it's most important that urban design and planning has a collaborative process. 803 01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:40,580 So each time the plan is updated, input is gathered from a variety of stakeholders, including city council, planning commission, community members, staff from multiple departments at the city and developers, and then staff also provide a notice to Metro as well as the state any time we make any updates. 804 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:54,920 So, when we update the plan, it's called a comprehensive plan amendment or CPA, so this slide covers the general amendment process and all of the red tiles are opportunities for council touch points. 805 01:10:55,740 --> 01:11:07,420 And as a project starts, it starts with the council initiation, such as tonight and staff completes the project scope of work in the analysis alternatives and holds a one to two work sessions with council and the planning commission. 806 01:11:07,420 --> 01:11:13,280 A discussion or a draft amendment is produced, and then after a refinement a final draft is created. 807 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:19,660 And then the adoption stages of the process, the Planning Commission holds a public hearing where it makes recommendation to city council. 808 01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:24,540 The City Council holds a public hearing and votes on whether to adopt the amendment. 809 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,360 And if council adopt the amendment, it's a bit of a process. 810 01:11:27,980 --> 01:11:32,780 30 days later, it will enact the amendment amendment and then 30 days after that, it is effective. 811 01:11:32,780 --> 01:11:38,820 And then there are various types of public outreach and involvement really thrown it throughout this entire process, 812 01:11:38,980 --> 01:11:42,920 but it's definitely pretty heavy in the alternatives and analysis stage. 813 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,580 So the comprehensive planning team currently consists of four planners. 814 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:55,680 Over the past three years the team has had the focus on this state legislation and mandates. 815 01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:02,620 And new laws of driven significant changes to our comprehensive plan and of stretch staff capacity pre-thin. 816 01:12:02,620 --> 01:12:07,140 It's been a substantial accomplishment that we've been able to keep up with the new regulations for 817 01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:13,240 middle housing, housing capacity, housing production, and affordable housing, definitely a theme from the state. 818 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,600 Then we've also begun the important work related to the state rules I'm climate-friendly and equitable 819 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:24,940 communities. And amidst all the other mandated work we've been doing other work and we've increased 820 01:12:24,940 --> 01:12:29,960 collaboration across departments and we've reached out to the community. Transportation is a large piece 821 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:35,740 long-range planning and planners not only work with development code related to transportation, 822 01:12:36,260 --> 01:12:42,520 they work with our partners in DES engineering and they coordinate to identify the best ways 823 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,240 to meet transportation priorities and they coordinate with Metro and update the regional transportation 824 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:53,140 plan or TSP and provide a lot of services to our community members as well. So for example, 825 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:59,340 the summer will be the fourth year of the summer bike repair hub because bike amenities are really 826 01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:05,000 helpful community members have safe bikes. Additionally, we were successful in obtaining a grant 827 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:10,140 at a traffic playground amenity to Davis Park. Traffic playgrounds are small versions of the city 828 01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:15,260 streets with travel lanes, crosswalks, and stop signs that provide kids and families a fun place 829 01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:21,060 to practice road safety. And you can see a photo on the bottom of the slide there that is a temporary 830 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:27,220 traffic playground that was installed during the pandemic. The program that playground project will 831 01:13:27,220 --> 01:13:30,300 include educational programming as well as safe routes to school. 832 01:13:31,460 --> 01:13:34,240 And so we increase our capacity and service the community 833 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,080 by pursuing outside funding. 834 01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:38,600 So our staff really do double as grant writers. 835 01:13:39,260 --> 01:13:43,240 So you can see on these past two slides that the department has been 836 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,340 pre-successful on obtaining grants over the past several years. 837 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,480 And the transportation related grants are really typically 838 01:13:49,480 --> 01:13:52,880 to bring programming from different organizations to the city 839 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,760 as well as amenities such as the traffic playground. 840 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,800 And these grants are often from the state and Metro. 841 01:14:01,530 --> 01:14:06,750 So as we look forward, we have limited staff capacity in many large-scale projects that need 842 01:14:06,750 --> 01:14:07,390 to be completed. 843 01:14:07,970 --> 01:14:12,470 So we've been increasing our pursuit about side funding, so we can strategically take on 844 01:14:12,470 --> 01:14:17,130 more in the next few years and really pivot to look toward those local priorities. 845 01:14:18,250 --> 01:14:21,930 And I just want to note that this ties well with Sharon's presentation earlier that 846 01:14:21,930 --> 01:14:25,230 grant funding generally doesn't cover staff time on projects. 847 01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:31,570 They definitely range from, you know, contracting the third party for a technical report, or 848 01:14:31,570 --> 01:14:36,410 sometimes they are, indeed, kind of helping with our code writing process, or providing a code 849 01:14:36,410 --> 01:14:42,470 audit as well. And then, you know, so as we run to these proposed projects, you'll notice 850 01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:48,230 several themes, definitely. So how can we reduce their land use review complexity, processing time, 851 01:14:48,350 --> 01:14:53,990 and cost, both for developers and for city staff? How do we make the best use of our limited resources? 852 01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:59,830 So the grants definitely will assist with that and how we work on integrating multiple 853 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:16,020 Priorities, not from either all perspective. So, integrating the city's goals related to environmental protection, inclusion, housing access, transportation, and economic development for small and large businesses. And also, you know, how do you meet those local and state priorities as well. 854 01:15:16,660 --> 01:15:24,260 So, that I'll turn it over to Tara to provide a high level overview of the projects that we're asking Council to initiate tonight to really form that work plan. 855 01:15:24,260 --> 01:15:32,020 Thank you. So as Ashley mentioned, staff is proposing that council initiate six projects this week this evening. 856 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,380 The three have an environmental focus. The first is overhauling the city's true regulations. 857 01:15:38,820 --> 01:15:43,760 This project is an opportunity to really look holistically at the city's true management priorities. 858 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:51,400 So it will engage the public and work across departments to evaluate citywide true preservation, planting, removal, and care. 859 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:56,440 It'll look at the environmental, the social, the development, and the administrative perspectives, 860 01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,140 and then update the development code and related documents. 861 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,540 The second project is in response to the state's climate friendly and equitable communities 862 01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:06,800 or see-fek rules. 863 01:16:07,420 --> 01:16:10,280 Staff has been briefing council over the past year, 864 01:16:10,580 --> 01:16:14,640 and planning is currently implementing phase one parking rules by the administrative policy, 865 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:20,280 planning is now looking to include these rules and regulations in the development code. 866 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:31,500 These two or require city council make choices between removing all parking minimums or implementing parking reforms and outing paid parking before the end of 2025. 867 01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:35,220 The third project will amend the city's environmental overlays. 868 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,300 The project will address implementation challenges with the city's standards. 869 01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:43,180 It will also address new federal floodplain management requirements. 870 01:16:46,020 --> 01:16:50,380 Staff is also proposing that council initiate three projects that have an overall land use focus. 871 01:16:50,380 --> 01:16:56,040 The first is the Pleasant Valley District Update, the 2004 District Plan Invasion Housing 872 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,740 Traces, Transportation Options, Schools, Parks, Account Center and Employment Opportunities 873 01:17:00,740 --> 01:17:01,520 in that area. 874 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,640 After 20 years, the area is partially developed in difficulty with the land use plan and 875 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,760 infrastructure delivery have been coming to the city's attention. 876 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:14,780 This project will propose updates to the plan and might of the current market conditions, 877 01:17:15,380 --> 01:17:18,700 land constraints, and what we know about it's aggression housing needs. 878 01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:22,780 The second project is the development code process updates. 879 01:17:23,380 --> 01:17:29,680 This project will focus on revising the city's design standards and its residential land use regulations. 880 01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:32,740 Over the past seven years or several years, 881 01:17:32,980 --> 01:17:40,460 staff has received input from a variety of different sources about challenges with code complexity and lengthy review processes. 882 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:46,460 The project will include policy conversations about the desired quality and character of development 883 01:17:46,460 --> 01:17:51,600 and then take this into account, we'll make it easier to progress through the land use process. 884 01:17:52,820 --> 01:17:58,840 And lastly, we have a full update to volumes 1 and 2 of the comprehensive plan. 885 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,460 The last full update was in the late 1980s. 886 01:18:02,340 --> 01:18:04,780 Gresham has grown significantly since this time. 887 01:18:04,940 --> 01:18:09,280 Whole volumes 1 and 2 of the plan have not been holistically evaluated and amended. 888 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,500 As a result, recent development history, the current community vision 889 01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:16,240 and associated lane use goals are missing from the plan. 890 01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:21,660 This creates challenges when staff rely on the comprehensive plan document to make lane use 891 01:18:21,660 --> 01:18:22,360 determinations. 892 01:18:23,180 --> 01:18:28,080 The project will update volumes 1 and 2 of the comprehensive plan to add recent history. 893 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:33,140 It can see the intersectionality of city priorities, such as climate action, transportation 894 01:18:33,140 --> 01:18:35,120 access and equitable development. 895 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:41,280 This is a large scale project that is outside of current budgetary resources to fully implement. 896 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:53,320 However, Dr. Miller is working closely with Assistant City Manager Schmidt and the City Manager's office with the goal and hope of utilizing some are befitting to facilitate moving this project forward. 897 01:18:57,050 --> 01:19:00,470 So currently, the scope sir working timelines for these project are very preliminary. 898 01:19:01,070 --> 01:19:09,650 Staff is in the process of applying for grant funding for the majority of these projects and the status of funding will impact both the scope of the work and the timing. 899 01:19:09,930 --> 01:19:12,470 However, this is a rough timeline for each of the projects. 900 01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:21,990 The length of the project is based on its complexity, staff resources, and capacity, and then also how much outreach is needed for that specific project. 901 01:19:22,750 --> 01:19:31,230 For CFX Phase 2, we have used the state required end date, but ultimately the arc of that project will depend on council determinations. 902 01:19:31,730 --> 01:19:37,830 So staff is coming back to council in September to give you more information on this and gather some direction from you. 903 01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:43,890 The comprehensive plan volume 1 and 2 update is shown with dashed lines around it. 904 01:19:44,690 --> 01:19:51,890 That is in order to indicate that the timing in the timeline will be refined as funding is finalized. 905 01:19:52,450 --> 01:19:57,070 And also, we are looking to add another complementing member to our team. 906 01:19:57,210 --> 01:19:59,070 We currently have a position at the vacant. 907 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,620 We're looking to add staff to. If also important just for us to remember that this does not capture the full breath of the comprehensive planning teams work. 908 01:20:09,340 --> 01:20:16,740 So this is new projects that we are looking to initiate. However, we have a number of other projects that are currently on our plate. 909 01:20:17,020 --> 01:20:20,680 And a good example of that is the transportation system plan update. 910 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:29,660 We are looking to order out for a launch date for that, but that is also another large project that is on the transportation portion of the team's plate. 911 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:32,460 Thank you, Tara. 912 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:42,600 So that concludes the presentation in the overview of the Urban Design and Planning Department and Comprehensive Plan and Amendment Process and the Projects before Council tonight for initiation. 913 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:48,120 and staff are here to answer any questions that the Council has, or discuss any of these projects further. 914 01:20:48,660 --> 01:20:56,560 If Council chooses to initiate each of these projects, it will span volumes 1, 2, and 3 of the comprehensive plan. 915 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:07,600 Because Project Initiations are a less formal process, I checked with the City Attorney and confirmed that if City Council wishes you can avoid a mouthful of a motion or 916 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,660 six separate motions and you can just simply move to a 917 01:21:10,660 --> 01:21:13,580 pre-vigenda items E2 through E7 if you'd like. 918 01:21:13,940 --> 01:21:18,240 If you'd like to take the motions differently, certainly staff can help 919 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,820 craft those motions for you tonight. Thank you very much. 920 01:21:21,860 --> 01:21:22,980 Thank you. Thank you, Ashley, to every 921 01:21:22,980 --> 01:21:25,780 we appreciate the presentation. Count's many questions. 922 01:21:27,900 --> 01:21:31,340 Count's more else. I noticed for the 923 01:21:31,340 --> 01:21:35,040 tree code that mentioned of the part of what trees 924 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:43,620 friends, friends of trees, trees of friends. And I'm curious if our urban forestry subcommittee 925 01:21:43,620 --> 01:21:46,560 will be engaged in any way through that process. 926 01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:51,770 Thank you very much Councillor. Yes, so right now 927 01:21:51,770 --> 01:21:59,430 the city actually has a funding application in with through the federal government and a partnership 928 01:21:59,430 --> 01:22:05,130 with friends of trees and hopefully part of that funding ask is specifically assistance to assist 929 01:22:05,130 --> 01:22:09,610 the city of Gresham with our tree code update as specifically looking to have an 930 01:22:09,610 --> 01:22:14,270 arborist that is consulting with us on that which is one of the things that UFS is 931 01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:20,950 certainly recommended and I think we are looking to the future to see you know CCSE 932 01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:24,690 is whether it be UFS or if that were to evolve into some sort of task force certainly 933 01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:30,630 looking toward the community to form a group that helps inform the tree code update 934 01:22:30,630 --> 01:22:32,890 our process is moving forward. Thanks. 935 01:22:36,530 --> 01:22:38,970 Thank you Councillor, additional questions. I can make 936 01:22:38,970 --> 01:22:41,630 you a question. Councillor Morales. 937 01:22:44,420 --> 01:22:47,420 Councillor Pazzle, we'll move to a pre-regent items 938 01:22:47,420 --> 01:22:49,240 E2 through E7. 939 01:22:51,260 --> 01:22:56,220 Councillor Pazzle, the Pazzle got the motion. And we've got Councillor Morales 940 01:22:56,220 --> 01:23:02,820 as the motion. You further discussion. Councillor Jones, Dixon. Thank you. Good 941 01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:07,420 of great presentation, as always, anything that has to do with housing and development. 942 01:23:08,820 --> 01:23:13,060 We're within the plan, we're planning on adopting any form of technology to help with the 943 01:23:13,060 --> 01:23:18,480 process if, as far as processing, permitting and things like that, is that included in the 944 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,120 role plan? 945 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,220 Thank you, Councillor. 946 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,640 We implemented Intergov to help with the development review process. 947 01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:29,580 I think it's been a couple of years, maybe at this point now, so we are still working with 948 01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:35,060 that system we definitely can work to refine it as necessary I think over arching throughout 949 01:23:35,060 --> 01:23:41,200 especially at the development code and but all of the updates are looking to improve our 950 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:46,840 efficiencies anywhere we can so whether that's implementing a new map layer that we're able 951 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:52,100 to put online that helps inform people so they're not having to contact pod you know can't find 952 01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:58,700 information they need you know webpage relux stuff like that is definitely part of our overarching 953 01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:04,120 department work that we're doing and then this the other these different amendments are looking 954 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,280 where we can find efficiencies and processes as well. 955 01:24:08,300 --> 01:24:08,740 Good to hear. 956 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:15,320 And then just a second question just for our community members on page one of if it talks 957 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:20,900 about just quality construction I guess I can really help this is help appropriately balance 958 01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:27,500 multiple local priorities such as multi-modal transportation access, climate responsive design, 959 01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:32,180 access to open space and quality construction. Could you just define it for everyone? 960 01:24:33,540 --> 01:24:34,540 The telequality construction? 961 01:24:36,260 --> 01:24:42,600 Certainly, thank you, Councillor Jones-Dixon. So there are components in our development code, 962 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:50,180 which focus on equality of construction from perspectives like the durability of materials. 963 01:24:50,700 --> 01:24:54,220 And so we have heard from the planning commission, as well as it's come up in multiple 964 01:24:54,220 --> 01:24:59,700 then you say it's very important that our bill environment is built, is built to last. 965 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:10,000 Our buildings are going to maintain the test of time that our codes and our processes ensure that we are 966 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:20,640 pursuing the quality of construction as well as aesthetics and architecture. So part of this conversation is what standards need to be maintained. 967 01:25:21,460 --> 01:25:28,760 So we have the look and feel that aggression is desiring. And then what can we record so that processes are more efficient? 968 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:34,920 Thank you, Councillor. 969 01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:37,000 Any other discussion? 970 01:25:40,050 --> 01:25:41,090 Here you're in seeing none. 971 01:25:41,390 --> 01:25:42,850 Let's call the question matters of favor. 972 01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:47,570 Of the motion to provide him's E2 to E7. 973 01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:49,570 Please signify by saying aye. 974 01:25:50,350 --> 01:25:51,650 Any opposed same sign? 975 01:25:52,270 --> 01:25:53,390 Motion carries unanimously. 976 01:25:53,650 --> 01:25:54,550 Thank you very much. 977 01:25:54,570 --> 01:25:55,690 Greatly greatly appreciated. 978 01:25:56,290 --> 01:25:58,750 Look forward to the process and the progress. 979 01:25:59,530 --> 01:26:02,150 So thank you for that insight. 980 01:26:05,130 --> 01:26:06,950 I'm back with another request. 981 01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:14,330 One of the things that Tara referenced was for our cop plan in particular, that is a fairly 982 01:26:15,050 --> 01:26:20,130 expensive project or a current cost estimate is about $350,000, but it's quite the undertaking 983 01:26:20,130 --> 01:26:25,270 and as she spoke to you, it is really the foundation of how our community adults. 984 01:26:27,130 --> 01:26:34,710 If you're open to that tonight, we would take a head-on from Council on using Urban Funds 985 01:26:34,710 --> 01:26:37,590 to move forward with that project as was referenced. 986 01:26:37,670 --> 01:26:39,210 So, Council is comfortable with that. 987 01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:41,210 We will also take that direction tonight. 988 01:26:44,730 --> 01:26:45,110 Council. 989 01:26:45,290 --> 01:26:45,330 Council. 990 01:26:45,450 --> 01:26:45,550 Yes. 991 01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:49,730 Oh, you just think, yes. 992 01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:52,990 Yeah. 993 01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:57,450 you're taking part in this is you know some unfriendly mandates we won't say 994 01:26:57,450 --> 01:27:03,010 about who to say but ultimately unsupport or if it's as like we do have 995 01:27:04,610 --> 01:27:11,330 support so yes yes of course how much is left in this arp of funds will we keep 996 01:27:11,330 --> 01:27:16,650 drawing fine good question we can get you the exact number are but here's 997 01:27:16,650 --> 01:27:21,350 some context and I'll have the exact numbers with me we had 12 million for the 998 01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:26,110 second round of our pod dollars that we are essentially waiting to dedicate because of our 999 01:27:26,110 --> 01:27:32,870 budget gap. Council approve using the ring million to fulfill our budget gap. So we still 1000 01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:38,270 have a significant balance left. We will be returning to Council this fall to talk about 1001 01:27:38,270 --> 01:27:40,150 the use of the remainder of the our defense. 1002 01:27:42,230 --> 01:27:43,230 Thank you. 1003 01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:50,450 All right. We've got three other items on the agenda and we're going to actually 1004 01:27:50,450 --> 01:28:02,850 Like I said, jump to item E10, which is going to work with us on this, and then we will go to items E9 and E8 here in a moment. 1005 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:29,260 Mayor Council, I'm Jane Leo. I am a policy analyst in the City Attorney's Office, brought on specifically to a manage and complete the charter review project, which is mandated by your charter. 1006 01:28:29,260 --> 01:28:40,980 I am bringing to you today a resolution 3567 dissolving the 2021-2021-23 charter review committee. 1007 01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:55,140 Before we asked Council for their decision, I'd like to do just a very short history that there are a number of events, very much outside of Council's control. 1008 01:28:55,140 --> 01:29:08,760 The Toronto Review Committee was adopted in a resolution in October 2021 and the council appointed the members to the committee pulling from members of the citizen. 1009 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:21,580 In compliance with that requirement that was in the resolution that created the committee, the Toronto Review Committee met 16 times in a subcommittee met 32 times. 1010 01:29:21,580 --> 01:29:26,640 I will attest as well the members of the committee who are here tonight will attest. 1011 01:29:27,340 --> 01:29:32,800 The majority members' meetings were close to three hours, if not four hours. 1012 01:29:33,140 --> 01:29:38,320 So a great deal of time in energy and devotion went into review instead of the charter. 1013 01:29:40,610 --> 01:29:45,950 In April of 2023, the charter review committee submitted their final report to Council, 1014 01:29:46,270 --> 01:29:48,450 recommending six amendments to the charter. 1015 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:59,980 I'd like to acknowledge the members of the committee, that, and so 1016 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,800 We have a member here tonight. We have a chair, Joseph and Ia. Vice chair, Jack Artner. Excuse me. Can we have this stand-up when there needs a call? 1017 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,400 I have a very nice name. 1018 01:30:16,180 --> 01:30:19,140 Vice chair, Artner. Shall we denison? 1019 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,240 We have Jack Hollis, who is subcommittee chair. 1020 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:31,840 And I don't believe I'm going to miss anyone, but I'd like to review the names, also serving 1021 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:39,560 on the committee were Christopher Dressel, Tim Fear, Amanda Gaiken, Kathy Kiefley, and Dana 1022 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:40,180 Stroud. 1023 01:30:41,500 --> 01:30:46,620 Kathy has been at many of your meetings, however she was unable to make it this evening. 1024 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:53,860 So, with that, I think we'll take it just a second to recognize the folks that are here. 1025 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:55,620 And all of them incredible work. 1026 01:30:56,620 --> 01:30:57,380 That really is. 1027 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,280 Just running a quick application of the hours, that's tremendous. 1028 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:02,600 Absolutely, tremendous. 1029 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:03,460 So, thank you all. 1030 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:16,560 So, with that, I bring to the committee, or actually to Council, excuse me, a request that you approved 1031 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:21,060 Resolution 4567, acknowledging the committee. 1032 01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:27,620 as you've done this evening and dissolving them and leaving them from their duties as committee members. 1033 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:34,460 Thank you very much, Jay. Council. Comments, thoughts? 1034 01:31:36,650 --> 01:31:43,630 Cousinucci. Yes, so first of all, um, just the clap and the recognition that um is nowhere near 1035 01:31:43,630 --> 01:31:49,930 the understanding of how much time and I tend to hear those and then find out there was going to be 1036 01:31:49,930 --> 01:31:55,070 Like another three hour meeting or something very soon, I know you guys were so hard and 1037 01:31:55,070 --> 01:32:01,130 had so many very deep discussions and did you very best for all of us and we respect 1038 01:32:01,130 --> 01:32:08,830 your decisions, Chair and I know that your comments were appreciated today and I feel 1039 01:32:08,830 --> 01:32:16,490 some time that perhaps we should ensure that you all deserve the respect for the knowledge 1040 01:32:16,490 --> 01:32:18,450 and the recommendations you brought forward. 1041 01:32:19,170 --> 01:32:21,250 So, I thank you all for your work. 1042 01:32:21,850 --> 01:32:26,110 I hope to be able to be able to work with you going forward as we bring some of these items 1043 01:32:26,110 --> 01:32:27,010 forward to the balance. 1044 01:32:27,430 --> 01:32:28,090 Thank you. 1045 01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:29,630 Thank you, Councillor. 1046 01:32:30,650 --> 01:32:31,690 Other comments? 1047 01:32:32,930 --> 01:32:33,210 Councillor Ross. 1048 01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:35,130 Just join my colleague. 1049 01:32:35,810 --> 01:32:41,450 I'm saying gratitude to the quite a moment of work that would into this. 1050 01:32:41,450 --> 01:32:48,790 I think I like number 181 hours which is pretty significant and I think the recommendations 1051 01:32:48,790 --> 01:32:54,750 you all brought forth were really thoughtful and know that the work you all did to go out to 1052 01:32:54,750 --> 01:32:55,210 the community. 1053 01:32:55,510 --> 01:32:59,590 I think you had listening sessions in different parts of our city with different constituencies. 1054 01:33:00,150 --> 01:33:05,990 It was a really, really great community engagement and I really trust that you brought back 1055 01:33:05,990 --> 01:33:07,570 the interest of the community. 1056 01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:08,370 Thank you. 1057 01:33:09,170 --> 01:33:10,670 Thank you, Councillor Morales. 1058 01:33:11,850 --> 01:33:12,730 Thank you. 1059 01:33:12,850 --> 01:33:13,030 Thank you. 1060 01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:13,610 Thank you very much. 1061 01:33:13,790 --> 01:33:15,170 A lot of committee members should say. 1062 01:33:16,450 --> 01:33:16,790 Thank you. 1063 01:33:17,930 --> 01:33:19,970 I heard that you've told me in your contributions. 1064 01:33:20,210 --> 01:33:23,770 I think I watched a few of the meetings and to see you guys come to consensus. 1065 01:33:24,510 --> 01:33:26,990 Or if you all come to consensus on the recommendations. 1066 01:33:27,490 --> 01:33:27,970 It's truly amazing. 1067 01:33:28,230 --> 01:33:29,430 And that's what we're about. 1068 01:33:30,150 --> 01:33:33,250 So thank you again for your commitment in 180 hours. 1069 01:33:33,530 --> 01:33:35,230 That is quite a bad thing. 1070 01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:36,350 You work harder than this. 1071 01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:39,350 or the last year and a half, just give them the things to go. 1072 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:47,880 And I concur, like I said a few moments ago, wow, that is an incredible dedication and time and attention and expertise. 1073 01:33:48,620 --> 01:33:53,200 So yeah, we can't thank you enough for that effort that you put forward, 1074 01:33:53,340 --> 01:33:58,500 and I just want to again extend a tremendous sense of gratitude, not just for the council myself, 1075 01:33:58,620 --> 01:33:59,680 but also for more community. 1076 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:06,960 Because you were here on, you know, warm afternoons, when everybody was out doing other things. 1077 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,640 So we want to thank you for your time and attention and your efforts. 1078 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:11,960 So thank you. Thank you. 1079 01:34:12,980 --> 01:34:13,440 Council. 1080 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:19,000 What do you want to consider for a resolution number three five six seven. 1081 01:34:19,300 --> 01:34:19,500 Council. 1082 01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,180 I am ready to meet the motion if you would like. 1083 01:34:23,940 --> 01:34:24,000 Okay. 1084 01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:29,740 I would approve resolution number three five six seven. 1085 01:34:29,740 --> 01:34:35,500 is solving the 2021-2021-23 City of Gresham City Cheddar Review Committee. 1086 01:34:36,820 --> 01:34:40,780 All right, we have the motion and then Councillor Rollins has the second report. 1087 01:34:40,940 --> 01:34:41,420 The discussion. 1088 01:34:44,660 --> 01:34:45,440 How are you hearing, then? 1089 01:34:45,460 --> 01:34:46,260 Let's call the question. 1090 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,760 I wasn't very deeply signified by saying I, I, in your post-same sign. 1091 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:52,260 Motion carries you, then. 1092 01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:53,460 So thank you very much. 1093 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:59,620 Let the record show that Councillor Hinton did have to leave at 730, so he is he's 1094 01:34:59,620 --> 01:34:59,800 gone. 1095 01:34:59,800 --> 01:34:59,940 Thank you. 1096 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:19,320 That's why he did not vote on that one. So, with that, we've got measures E9 and E10, or, actually, technically, items E9 and E10, which have different measures, and I believe E9 and E10, E8 and E9. 1097 01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:30,840 And we have Assistant City Manager Eric Schmidt that has a little bit of information for us in conjunction with these potential measures. So, Assistant City Manager Eric Schmidt. 1098 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:37,200 Okay, I was waiting for that to key up. 1099 01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:38,280 Thank you very much. 1100 01:35:39,020 --> 01:35:42,000 Good evening, Mayor, Council President and Councilors. 1101 01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:43,760 Thank you for the opportunity to see you 1102 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,160 to present for your consideration. 1103 01:35:45,660 --> 01:35:49,780 Resolution number 3566 related to recommended amendments 1104 01:35:49,780 --> 01:35:52,520 to the city charter regarding over renewal. 1105 01:35:53,460 --> 01:35:55,480 I'm Eric Schmidt, one of the assistant city managers 1106 01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:58,040 and joining me remotely tonight is Brian Mobberg, 1107 01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,680 our director of over renewal. 1108 01:36:00,140 --> 01:36:01,740 I will do the presentation 1109 01:36:01,740 --> 01:36:03,580 and then any questions Brian will answer. 1110 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,740 So Brian, thank you for being here. 1111 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,240 Just a quick background technology of where we have been. 1112 01:36:13,140 --> 01:36:16,080 We talked about this last week, but on February 21st, 1113 01:36:16,420 --> 01:36:18,560 we presented to you in a council work session, 1114 01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,460 some background around potential urban renewal charter changes. 1115 01:36:23,740 --> 01:36:25,260 And so we presented that, 1116 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:26,750 received direction at that meeting. 1117 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,600 From council to develop a plan for the charter to match 1118 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:38,900 Oregon State Law, ORS457. Last week on July 11th we had an follow-up work session, where 1119 01:36:38,900 --> 01:36:44,760 we reviewed some draft ballot title and ballot summary language. We received some feedback 1120 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:51,100 and direction from Council that leads us to tonight with Resolution 3566 tonight's council 1121 01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:58,040 business. And a reminder from last week's work session, if this is ultimately, if Council moves 1122 01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:02,900 this forward and this ultimately approved by the voters, these changes would revise the 1123 01:37:02,900 --> 01:37:08,760 charter to provide city council flexibility to establish new urban renewal plans or make 1124 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:14,100 substantial changes to existing plans consistent with existing state law. 1125 01:37:17,490 --> 01:37:17,830 Just to remind 1126 01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:22,450 you again about why this is needed or current chartering, which is some of the most restrictive 1127 01:37:22,450 --> 01:37:28,050 language for urban renewal plans in the state of Oregon, and as Brian mentioned last week 1128 01:37:28,050 --> 01:37:32,610 virtually a change other than a typo must be currently approved by voters. 1129 01:37:36,460 --> 01:37:36,960 By matching 1130 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:45,040 an Oregon revised statute or S457, it allows a city council to form an urban renewal area 1131 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:50,800 on its own after a robust public process which includes consulting and controlling with the 1132 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:56,260 other taxing districts and city-wide notice of the public hearing on the adoption at any 1133 01:37:57,140 --> 01:38:03,220 The vast majority of other municipalities over rural plans use this provision and matching 1134 01:38:03,220 --> 01:38:08,540 or S457 does preserve public outreach involvement and review. 1135 01:38:12,710 --> 01:38:17,430 The language, the actual proposed language for ballot title and explanatory statement 1136 01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:19,390 is included within your packet. 1137 01:38:20,110 --> 01:38:25,070 I am adding these slides as just a reminder graphically of what we discussed last week 1138 01:38:25,070 --> 01:38:28,130 And also based on the feedback received by Council, 1139 01:38:28,250 --> 01:38:31,190 revised to some of the language to reflect consistent 1140 01:38:31,190 --> 01:38:33,130 with state law, and previously 1141 01:38:33,130 --> 01:38:35,530 had the words of a line of state law. 1142 01:38:36,090 --> 01:38:38,350 So we modify that per council direction. 1143 01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:44,240 We have reviewed, within our board limitations, 1144 01:38:44,620 --> 01:38:46,740 as it relates to the language that's before you 1145 01:38:46,740 --> 01:38:48,960 have received it, as it relates to a ballot title, 1146 01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:50,640 summary, and explanatory statement. 1147 01:38:56,750 --> 01:39:00,350 With that, the staff recommendation is to move 1148 01:39:00,350 --> 01:39:04,410 approved resolution number 3, 5, 6, 6, submitting a city of 1149 01:39:04,410 --> 01:39:08,290 city charter amendment to the aggression voters, and many charter section 1150 01:39:09,170 --> 01:39:13,950 36A, urban rule, and adopt an ballot title and explanatory statement to be placed 1151 01:39:13,950 --> 01:39:20,130 under the November 7th, 2023 ballot. Also, within your council agenda items and on 1152 01:39:20,130 --> 01:39:23,490 the slide, there are a couple of alternatives if council chooses to take a 1153 01:39:23,490 --> 01:39:29,450 different direction. In terms of next steps after this evening, should council 1154 01:39:29,450 --> 01:39:36,490 pass the resolution 3566 this evening. We will move forward with public notice of the ballot title and voters 1155 01:39:36,490 --> 01:39:41,990 pamphlet explanatory statement. We'll submit the final measure to Momentum Accounting Elections, 1156 01:39:42,210 --> 01:39:45,770 let the asterbs that I'll talk about here in just a moment. We'll certainly coordinate with 1157 01:39:45,770 --> 01:39:51,390 communications and keep Council informed as we proceed. The asterbs are what I need to 1158 01:39:51,390 --> 01:39:55,510 just touch base in that day, Council on this evening as you deliberate your decision this evening. 1159 01:39:56,990 --> 01:39:59,750 So as I go to the next slide, we receive some information. 1160 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:10,680 As we finish the council agenda items, the submitted materials, we learn to submit additional information from all number county elections that could have budgetary impacts related to this election. 1161 01:40:13,250 --> 01:40:26,030 So again, since we got this new information, we learned that elections and odd years are considered special elections, and they're special for a reason, and even years are the norm. 1162 01:40:26,030 --> 01:40:30,970 And the special elections really, and I'm sure it needs a lot of things, but it also means 1163 01:40:30,970 --> 01:40:34,330 elections are held in the special election year to odd years. 1164 01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:40,490 They are paid for by how many taxing districts submit measures or things to the ballot. 1165 01:40:42,230 --> 01:40:47,710 So it really depends on how many taxing districts move something forward on a given election. 1166 01:40:47,710 --> 01:40:54,870 The example of most recent May election, we received an invoice for a moment of 1167 01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:59,570 the county elections for our part in that election, which is around $13,000. 1168 01:41:01,970 --> 01:41:05,830 And so that led us to ask you some questions and learning more working with the City 1169 01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:07,770 Recorder's Office as our elections officer. 1170 01:41:08,030 --> 01:41:11,630 We had some conversations with Director Tinscott with moment of the county 1171 01:41:11,630 --> 01:41:16,090 elections to including this morning to understand this information a little bit more 1172 01:41:17,450 --> 01:41:25,370 So there are potential budget impacts to the city of Gresham, depending on how many other districts put measures on a 2023 election. 1173 01:41:26,690 --> 01:41:35,750 The hard part was estimating what that number might be to be able to give council some assurances as it relates to budgetary impacts. 1174 01:41:36,970 --> 01:41:42,950 worst case, what we're hearing, and again this is approximation with a lot of asteroids on it, 1175 01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:51,190 and is that if Gresham was the only district that put something on the November 2023 ballot, 1176 01:41:51,670 --> 01:41:58,110 the potential impact for both measures together, this one and the one you're going to hear after this one, 1177 01:41:58,530 --> 01:42:04,750 could be in the approximately, please don't let me do it, approximately $100,000 or range. 1178 01:42:06,750 --> 01:42:10,730 Again, that's hopefully worst case, conservative estimate. 1179 01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:16,590 What we are working on right now is we're communications with Multimak County elections. 1180 01:42:17,130 --> 01:42:21,230 We've agreed to stay in contact over the next couple of weeks, as they learn whether 1181 01:42:21,230 --> 01:42:26,090 there's other districts that are going to be putting things forward, which will change 1182 01:42:26,090 --> 01:42:31,170 the equation and we believe that number significantly down. 1183 01:42:31,170 --> 01:42:38,910 So, the options for Council this evening, as we've outlined here, is should Council wish 1184 01:42:38,910 --> 01:42:44,410 to you, you could approve resolution number 3566 this evening, and we would complete all 1185 01:42:44,410 --> 01:42:50,350 required noticing, but we would return to Council at your August 22nd Council business 1186 01:42:50,350 --> 01:42:56,710 meeting with an update from the Multnomah County elections that would help inform you in terms 1187 01:42:56,710 --> 01:43:03,650 receiving more of a formal go-no-go as it relates to filing the ballot measure with 1188 01:43:03,650 --> 01:43:08,470 Mundo-Itani elections by the deadline. So that's the initial staff recommendation. 1189 01:43:08,910 --> 01:43:12,550 As we would, you know, council wants to move forward. We would move forward, but we would 1190 01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:17,030 come back for that final just check in. Okay, we've done what we need to do to meet 1191 01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:21,690 the necessary deadlines. This council still wished to move forward based on updated information 1192 01:43:21,690 --> 01:43:27,670 from Multnomah County, what we know who else might be putting any type of measure on the ballot. 1193 01:43:29,090 --> 01:43:33,710 Second option is council could choose to move forward tonight if you approve the resolution, 1194 01:43:34,350 --> 01:43:40,890 but choose instead to place it on the May of 2024 ballot, in which case our understanding is that 1195 01:43:40,890 --> 01:43:47,070 there would not be a cost as it relates to that. And then secondly, the council could choose to take 1196 01:43:47,070 --> 01:43:50,050 no action on resolution 3, 5, 6, 6, 6 this evening. 1197 01:43:51,390 --> 01:43:53,730 So that's my update information from a visual perspective 1198 01:43:53,730 --> 01:43:55,270 and that concludes my presentation. 1199 01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:56,890 I'm happy to answer your questions. 1200 01:43:57,070 --> 01:43:58,750 So actually, Brian's happy to answer your questions. 1201 01:44:00,070 --> 01:44:00,810 Thank you, Eric. 1202 01:44:00,970 --> 01:44:04,630 Greatly appreciate the presentation and the update. 1203 01:44:04,970 --> 01:44:08,610 What is the, what is the noticing calendar 1204 01:44:09,190 --> 01:44:13,190 that we have to meet for a November 2023 election? 1205 01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:15,570 Rachel, do you have that? 1206 01:44:15,570 --> 01:44:17,890 with you. 1207 01:44:23,410 --> 01:44:29,530 September 7, this might as our timeline that we have to file with Multimak County, 1208 01:44:29,770 --> 01:44:34,610 that's our deadline to file. It's also the deadline to withdraw. That's correct. That's correct. 1209 01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:49,550 But there is some noticing pre-noticing that we have to do in terms of allowing a challenge to come 1210 01:44:49,550 --> 01:44:59,850 is the absolute deadline that we would be able to put the posting in the newspaper for the 1211 01:44:59,850 --> 01:44:59,970 So... 1212 01:45:14,110 --> 01:45:29,370 Okay, and at this point we don't have any projections as to the cost outside of that kind of more conservative projection that we have, saying some work, close to 100,000 potentially. Close to approximately, please don't hold me to that. 1213 01:45:29,370 --> 01:45:29,630 Yeah. 1214 01:45:30,290 --> 01:45:30,770 So yeah. 1215 01:45:31,490 --> 01:45:33,750 I'm sure that unfortunately not at this time here. 1216 01:45:34,110 --> 01:45:38,650 I think one of the reasons that staff is before you today as it relates to asking 1217 01:45:38,650 --> 01:45:43,930 for council approval for both of these majors that you're seeing is because upcoming council 1218 01:45:43,930 --> 01:45:46,010 recess your next meeting isn't scheduled. 1219 01:45:46,090 --> 01:45:51,110 Your next regularly scheduled meeting is not until August 22nd past that August 18th 1220 01:45:51,110 --> 01:45:51,430 deadline. 1221 01:45:51,770 --> 01:45:53,410 So that's why we are here tonight. 1222 01:45:54,030 --> 01:46:01,850 Now I get that, I'm just thinking in terms of the cost effectively and how do we find out 1223 01:46:01,850 --> 01:46:08,530 what that potential cost is going to be as we look to make the no-go decision. 1224 01:46:09,730 --> 01:46:11,170 So, that's the other side of the challenge. 1225 01:46:11,630 --> 01:46:15,130 The other thing that we understand in Richard Kurtman for a long time, but I think based 1226 01:46:15,130 --> 01:46:19,510 on the information and the conversation we have with the record Scott, it seems like we don't 1227 01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:24,130 get the final bill until after the election, when everything is reconciled, they have a pretty 1228 01:46:24,130 --> 01:46:28,830 complex formula that I frankly could explain to you right now, but they have a complex formula 1229 01:46:28,830 --> 01:46:34,250 about how they put all that figure out. And a lot of it's based on what's the voter turnout 1230 01:46:34,250 --> 01:46:38,210 and there's some other factors that come into this that don't play out until the actual election 1231 01:46:38,210 --> 01:46:45,310 itself. So even on August 22nd, should Council move forward as I suggest the staff recommends, 1232 01:46:46,010 --> 01:46:50,270 We're still going to come with you with the estimate we won't be able to have to give you a firm number. 1233 01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:53,310 It'll be hopefully a more, you know. 1234 01:46:54,290 --> 01:46:56,050 Better estimate, but it still will be an estimate. 1235 01:46:59,430 --> 01:47:01,910 Councillor Jones digs in and then we'll go to Councillor Morales. 1236 01:47:02,230 --> 01:47:02,510 Thank you. 1237 01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:03,510 Thank you. 1238 01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:04,030 Thank you. 1239 01:47:04,030 --> 01:47:09,230 Is there a difference between what if we wait until May if it's how would that impact the city 1240 01:47:09,230 --> 01:47:11,490 without impact this in a negative way? 1241 01:47:12,770 --> 01:47:13,770 Thank you for the question, Councillor. 1242 01:47:13,770 --> 01:47:20,390 I think that I'll answer for the measure that I'm before you as a relates to our overall renewal. 1243 01:47:21,130 --> 01:47:26,950 I think there are reasons I think the question was asked last last meeting last week about, you know, 1244 01:47:26,970 --> 01:47:29,830 is it up should we wait? Or do we need to go? 1245 01:47:30,130 --> 01:47:34,830 And I would say at that time I suggested to move forward if Council wanted to. 1246 01:47:35,730 --> 01:47:39,210 That's again before this new information came forward as a relates to budget impact. 1247 01:47:39,210 --> 01:47:49,090 I would say at this point in time while I would still love to see it move forward, I understand the budgetary impacts, and I think from staff's perspective we could certainly wait till May of 2024. 1248 01:47:53,950 --> 01:47:55,810 All right. Thank you, Councillor Jones. Thanks for your concern. 1249 01:47:56,890 --> 01:47:58,990 Okay. Perfect. How's that energy? 1250 01:47:59,950 --> 01:48:10,810 So as I'm thinking through this, the option of putting on May 2024 election is potentially going to be when we are also looking at putting, if we're to do the levy, 1251 01:48:10,810 --> 01:48:14,550 when you potentially be looking at putting that also on the ballot. 1252 01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:18,550 And then now I wish I had the agenda back who's experts to say, 1253 01:48:18,590 --> 01:48:21,590 is that a good thing is a bad thing to have 1254 01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:23,930 question asking for two things on the same. 1255 01:48:26,670 --> 01:48:30,350 So I'm tending to lean toward the first option 1256 01:48:30,350 --> 01:48:33,950 with an understanding that it says you're going to come back 1257 01:48:33,950 --> 01:48:37,990 with an update to us as to whether to go or no go. 1258 01:48:38,190 --> 01:48:40,470 And obviously at that point, if we decide on a no go, 1259 01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:46,210 that we can still decide to go to May 2024 or do whatever, but also understanding that the 1260 01:48:46,210 --> 01:48:54,530 newspaper published has to happen by the seventeenth for the challenge, August 17th, and 1261 01:48:54,530 --> 01:49:00,530 so we will be spending whatever revenues though I don't expect them to be that high to go 1262 01:49:00,530 --> 01:49:05,870 in the newspaper before we have made a decision and does that create any issue whatsoever? 1263 01:49:06,610 --> 01:49:13,870 I don't believe it creates an issue, it is a minor cost in terms of that notification, but 1264 01:49:13,870 --> 01:49:18,170 I think, you know, again, should Council decide to withdraw, that happens as well. 1265 01:49:18,370 --> 01:49:21,590 Those things happen and the notice gets pulled back. 1266 01:49:21,950 --> 01:49:21,990 All right. 1267 01:49:22,050 --> 01:49:23,610 Thank you. 1268 01:49:24,230 --> 01:49:25,050 Council President Piazza? 1269 01:49:26,270 --> 01:49:35,290 I think in being prudent with staff's time and city citizens dollars that we just should 1270 01:49:35,290 --> 01:49:41,510 towards doing it in May of 24. It's going to cost something. We don't know what if we do it in this 1271 01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:47,570 off year and I did ask the question last time about what it make a difference if we waited to tell 1272 01:49:47,570 --> 01:49:54,410 me and it was no we would like to go now but it wouldn't really make a difference which you just reiterated. 1273 01:49:55,070 --> 01:49:59,970 But if we say, oh well let's do this and go with the assumptions and maybe it won't be so exciting. 1274 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:17,960 Census of a maybe we'll have a better idea. You have staff doing all this stuff, just in case. You're already overburden and trying to do things. I would rather just see us say, let's pass it for me in next year, and burden you with that, have no cost for it. That's just my thoughts. 1275 01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:28,270 All right, you know, I think I agree with much of what 1276 01:50:28,910 --> 01:50:32,710 Conspiracy Piazza just said in regards to 1277 01:50:33,250 --> 01:50:38,170 the flexing of staff time, and yeah, there could be some way to what 1278 01:50:38,170 --> 01:50:42,730 Conscious Dmitri said, asking about what DHM would say, we don't know, but 1279 01:50:42,730 --> 01:50:45,830 based on kind of some of the numbers that they shared, it made me more 1280 01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:50,570 advantageous to go in May of 2024 for both items, I don't know. 1281 01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:59,830 Yeah, this is a situation where again, we won't know what the cost would be, even as we 1282 01:50:59,830 --> 01:51:00,610 look in the decision. 1283 01:51:00,850 --> 01:51:08,090 I mean, this cost is 50 grand, we don't know, where we would have some insight by the time we 1284 01:51:08,090 --> 01:51:11,170 would have to withdraw it is how many items could be. 1285 01:51:11,690 --> 01:51:18,890 So we could extrapolate to say, if this is very similar to the May election of 2023, the number 1286 01:51:18,890 --> 01:51:25,010 items that disperse across all of the municipalities in the county, maybe in Metro, maybe 1287 01:51:25,010 --> 01:51:29,910 you know, they could give us, you know, some type of perspective of what that's going 1288 01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:30,590 to look like. 1289 01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:37,870 But, I mean, it's, it's really, you know, I feel like we're wearing some dice here to say, 1290 01:51:38,050 --> 01:51:43,090 okay, let's, let's roll the dice and we're figure out afterwards what might be the, and 1291 01:51:43,090 --> 01:51:48,870 then, I wonder if we haven't even touched on, is if there's a recount, because we're 1292 01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:54,130 accounts require us to actually pay the cost of that recount. So if any of this is relatively 1293 01:51:54,130 --> 01:51:59,650 close and it kicks into a recount because I believe even with measures they can trigger 1294 01:51:59,650 --> 01:52:04,870 the automatic recount then that's even that's an additional cost associated with because we 1295 01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:10,150 pay that regardless of if it's a special election or non regular special election. I mean those 1296 01:52:10,150 --> 01:52:15,390 that we still have that cost. So I was just concerned about the what it is as we look at this and 1297 01:52:15,390 --> 01:52:20,490 begin to evaluate the possibilities of what the cost could be, which is sad. 1298 01:52:20,670 --> 01:52:24,290 I mean, you know, democracy, because I'm like comes down to dollars. 1299 01:52:24,710 --> 01:52:26,990 Since Council, Councilor Morales. 1300 01:52:28,370 --> 01:52:34,570 So just to make sure I'm hearing this correctly, we're going to incur a cost by putting it on the ballot. 1301 01:52:34,650 --> 01:52:39,630 This year, regardless, if there's two, three, four or five, we're going to pay for something. 1302 01:52:40,010 --> 01:52:40,550 That's great. 1303 01:52:40,750 --> 01:52:44,270 If we wait until May of 2024, we don't pay for it. 1304 01:52:44,270 --> 01:52:45,470 that's correct. 1305 01:52:49,820 --> 01:52:55,980 So I'm going to go ahead and make a motion and there's no projects that are being 1306 01:52:55,980 --> 01:53:00,020 impacted by us waiting until May of 2024. 1307 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,000 Councillor Marales, that is correct. I think for this 1308 01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:11,660 measure should Council wish to approve the resolution but to place it on the May. I think 1309 01:53:11,660 --> 01:53:15,780 Rachel, I think we would need to get that. Do we have a May election date that we could amend 1310 01:53:15,780 --> 01:53:19,940 make a, if council wants to make that motion, we need to give them a deal. 1311 01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:24,980 What do you mean, let me say this, if we're not going to be, if we're going to discuss 1312 01:53:24,980 --> 01:53:29,760 these two, we're not going to place them in the November ballot, there's not a huge 1313 01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,540 need to make this motion decision this evening. 1314 01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:38,500 I mean, I'd rather make sure that we've got the resolutions like we want them with their 1315 01:53:38,500 --> 01:53:42,280 right dates and right information rather than trying to figure out what it should be 1316 01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:42,740 right now. 1317 01:53:42,740 --> 01:53:46,760 I mean, there's we can bring this back in short order. 1318 01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:48,360 I'd rather not have it back here. 1319 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,320 I think it's going to be 24 dollars. 1320 01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:55,080 I think it's going to be 24 dollars. 1321 01:53:55,180 --> 01:53:55,420 Okay. 1322 01:53:55,860 --> 01:53:57,040 I'm being with that. 1323 01:53:57,620 --> 01:54:00,260 I was thinking we had to get like down to dates and things like that. 1324 01:54:00,660 --> 01:54:06,740 But if we, if we can say just make 2024, then we're good. 1325 01:54:07,300 --> 01:54:07,580 Great. 1326 01:54:07,580 --> 01:54:14,440 So I move to move this to the May 2024 election. 1327 01:54:16,260 --> 01:54:19,820 All right, Councilor Morales has the motion, is there a second? 1328 01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:20,820 Second. 1329 01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:21,860 Second, Councilor Jones, Dixon. 1330 01:54:21,940 --> 01:54:23,700 I need to put the resolution number in there. 1331 01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:30,500 I might ask Councilor Morales, I just put the slide back and I might suggest that if you 1332 01:54:30,500 --> 01:54:36,280 wouldn't mind reading, making a motion again, but just substituting the November 7th, 2023 1333 01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:46,560 to May 2024. So go ahead and withdraw the current motion. Thank you. And then make the new motion. 1334 01:54:47,020 --> 01:54:52,840 And you with your second. Yes. Great. Thank you. I move to a proposal. Number three, five, six, 1335 01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:57,180 six, submitting a city of question. City charter amendment to the question voters. 1336 01:54:57,180 --> 01:54:59,980 Mending Charter Section 36A. 1337 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,120 Open renewal and adopting a ballot title and explanatory statement to be placed on the May 2024 ballot. 1338 01:55:07,980 --> 01:55:10,980 All right, we do have the motion. You back in for the second. Thank you very much. 1339 01:55:11,140 --> 01:55:14,600 Councillor Jones-Dixon is in for the second. Eighty-four of the discussion. 1340 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:17,880 All right, hearing none. 1341 01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:22,780 All those in favor, please signify by saying aye, aye, in your post same sign. 1342 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:29,900 We've got one note and that note is Councillor D'Nigie. So, motion carries. Thank you very much. 1343 01:55:29,900 --> 01:55:31,400 Thank you. 1344 01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:41,300 Yes. If you have another question, would you like us to we're still under contract with DOHM? 1345 01:55:41,380 --> 01:55:51,740 Would you like us to ask an inquire regarding having multiple initiatives on the same ballot up next year and bring that back and for me bring that information back to Council with that be helpful. 1346 01:55:52,460 --> 01:55:54,160 I would be supportive Council. 1347 01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:58,600 Yes, I see that. 1348 01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,460 And consensus. Thank you. 1349 01:56:02,820 --> 01:56:03,660 All right. 1350 01:56:03,660 --> 01:56:05,120 again 1351 01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:58,440 I'm Jane Leo, policy analyst in the office of the city attorney. I am bringing 1352 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:06,360 me before you today one of the six charter amendment recommendations that came from the Charter 1353 01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:13,740 Review Committee. This is to amend the city charter such that amendments to the charter are 1354 01:57:13,740 --> 01:57:21,540 approved by a majority, rather than as it's currently stated, which is a 60% vote threshold 1355 01:57:21,540 --> 01:57:23,360 in order to pass. 1356 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:33,240 Resolution 35, 65, was brought to you in April at a work session, the final report from 1357 01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:34,460 the committee was delivered. 1358 01:57:34,460 --> 01:57:43,040 In June of 20th, again we came back before work session and discussed the recommended amendments. 1359 01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:52,200 A week ago, July 11th, there was discussion again at a work session regarding the draft ballot measure, 1360 01:57:52,920 --> 01:58:00,560 and we received a directive to forward amendment to the ballot measure to forward resolution 3565. 1361 01:58:04,370 --> 01:58:14,070 Again, the ballot titles for this measure would be to amend charter amendments require approval by majority of voters. 1362 01:58:14,930 --> 01:58:20,690 Prove the council's directive, the, uh, not the summary statement. 1363 01:58:22,930 --> 01:58:29,830 But the exploratory statement was amended to remove any reference to the elections 1364 01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:34,510 to the ballot measures that did not pass because of the 60 percent of threshold. 1365 01:58:35,190 --> 01:58:39,270 That was removed from the language that is before you today in the resolution. 1366 01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:44,820 Stop recommendation very much. 1367 01:58:45,460 --> 01:58:50,300 This falls absolutely in line with the measure you just debated regarding urban renewal. 1368 01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:58,540 Stop is recommending that you approve resolution 3565 submitting to the question voters amendment 1369 01:58:58,540 --> 01:59:07,100 to the Gresham Charter Section 45A and adopting the ballot title and explanatory statement 1370 01:59:07,100 --> 01:59:15,120 to be placed on the November 7th 2023 ballot. As in the discussion you just had, there 1371 01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:21,600 is the issue regarding the expense to do so. Alternatives to approving the motion before 1372 01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:30,240 for you is to adopt resolution 3565 for placement on the May ballot. 1373 01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:35,120 There are also the option to re-evolves resolution 3565. 1374 01:59:36,980 --> 01:59:41,600 The explanatory statement on the ballot measure, and there is of course council always 1375 01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,420 has the option of taking no action on this. 1376 01:59:52,350 --> 01:59:54,190 All right, thank you, Jean for your presentation. 1377 01:59:55,890 --> 01:59:56,110 I know. 1378 01:59:56,110 --> 01:59:59,950 I'm headed into wordsmithing. 1379 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,980 And so I'm not going to get too carried away on this. But under the question, shall the charter be amended such that changes require the approval of the majority of electors voting on the measure? 1380 02:00:14,140 --> 02:00:20,720 I'm not sure that makes sense, because it says the approval of the majority. 1381 02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:31,900 What I'm wondering is it shall the charter be amended such it changes or the results are approved by a majority of voters because right here 1382 02:00:31,900 --> 02:00:41,420 It says it's going to be approved by the majority of the voters. I'm very happy crazy. I'm right on here 1383 02:00:43,660 --> 02:00:48,600 It makes it sound like it's going to be approved if the majority of voters do it 1384 02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:57,360 it's not like it's not going to be approved if I'm feeling it should just say that the majority 1385 02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:00,960 of the voters will determine the outcome of this. 1386 02:01:02,820 --> 02:01:04,200 Is there any else feeling this with me? 1387 02:01:04,260 --> 02:01:04,820 I don't know. 1388 02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:05,680 Listen up. 1389 02:01:06,420 --> 02:01:06,780 No. 1390 02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:07,740 No. 1391 02:01:07,860 --> 02:01:08,380 Counselor. 1392 02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:14,240 Do you think there is a specific reason why the wording is proposed the way it is and for those 1393 02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:15,980 who are watching, I'll go back. 1394 02:01:15,980 --> 02:01:28,480 This is where you see the both the language. I believe you're referring to this, the change the voter approval requirement to a majority of votes cast on the proposed measure. 1395 02:01:29,180 --> 02:01:30,620 There's a very specific reason. 1396 02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:35,360 No, she's actually talking about the question that's on that one right there. 1397 02:01:35,740 --> 02:01:41,060 Actually, the question we're more aligned with that phrase, you just gave it a bit more sense to me. 1398 02:01:47,520 --> 02:02:02,140 I do want to explain that there is a reason that there is reference to the electors voting on the measure because in elections it is entirely possible. 1399 02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:11,800 It has happened. We all know it has where you have a voter turning in a ballot, but they don't vote on that measure. 1400 02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:19,860 So you're only looking at the majority, not of the total number of voters who voted, but 1401 02:02:19,860 --> 02:02:24,520 all you're looking at the majority of voters who voted on that specific measure. 1402 02:02:25,340 --> 02:02:30,960 And so there's a difference, and that's why it's specifically worded majority of electors voting 1403 02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:31,860 on the measure. 1404 02:02:33,260 --> 02:02:39,900 I think like a place I'm having a problem is with the word approval, because it would, 1405 02:02:39,900 --> 02:02:44,080 should have a tertiary amendment, is such that the change is required, then the majority of 1406 02:02:45,180 --> 02:02:49,620 electors, or that the results be determined by the majority of electors voting on the measure. 1407 02:02:50,980 --> 02:02:57,300 I just, when it says approval, it's also the opposite. It's also not approved. 1408 02:02:58,940 --> 02:03:02,740 Well, whatever the results are based on how the majority of electors vote. 1409 02:03:05,660 --> 02:03:09,140 I'll just leave my comments there. If anybody wants to consider that, that's fine. 1410 02:03:09,140 --> 02:03:12,320 And if not, then I'm fully willing. 1411 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:16,660 Well, to be honest, council duty is here. 1412 02:03:16,660 --> 02:03:21,180 I am not following the change in what the concern is. 1413 02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,740 So let's try to be a minute such that change is required. 1414 02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:28,640 The approval of a majority of electors voting on the measure. 1415 02:03:32,690 --> 02:03:35,290 And this is, this is post this being approved. 1416 02:03:36,690 --> 02:03:39,770 So I'm just, I'm going to try to explain that well, 1417 02:03:39,990 --> 02:03:42,990 I see it saying, and then maybe that will bring you some quality 1418 02:03:42,990 --> 02:04:07,830 But you're request is, because I don't understand it, so basically what this is saying is, in the future, if this is approved, all that's required is a majority of the voters approving whatever that change is to the charter, rather than requiring 60% customers for sure help me to understand, I think you're just trying to streamline it by getting rid of extra words to make it simple. 1419 02:04:07,830 --> 02:04:12,870 So if you remove approval of, it still reads the same thing. 1420 02:04:15,810 --> 02:04:18,110 And really approval would just confuse us things, 1421 02:04:18,410 --> 02:04:21,830 because the next people think that it's going to be basically 1422 02:04:22,570 --> 02:04:28,150 a measure can only be approved by a majority of elections, 1423 02:04:28,290 --> 02:04:30,890 but a measure can also be not approved, 1424 02:04:31,370 --> 02:04:33,970 but I'd just assume that it just gets in the way 1425 02:04:33,970 --> 02:04:36,750 and it's going to make the question less clear. 1426 02:04:36,750 --> 02:04:39,250 But just a suggestion, 1427 02:04:41,390 --> 02:04:46,790 can I read this to you without that, because to me it did change the meaning, just the well, I heard it. 1428 02:04:46,810 --> 02:04:51,810 Shall the charter be amended such that changes require majority of electors voting on the major. 1429 02:04:52,110 --> 02:04:59,970 So now I was saying it's the majority of the voters that have to have been voting versus approval by the majority of them. 1430 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:06,320 The electors and people that actually placed their vote. So if you take that out, now it becomes a whole different question. 1431 02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:13,740 Did the majority of electors voting on the measure? At least the way I look at it. 1432 02:05:14,620 --> 02:05:21,780 And that's what I was trying to say, regardless of the approval of the disapproval, it's just not saying majority of the electors voting on the measure. 1433 02:05:21,780 --> 02:05:36,880 That's a whole different question now because it's like, well, the majority of the voters voted, so it should pass, rather than, well, if we have 500 voters, 251 have to vote it, otherwise it's not fair. 1434 02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:42,400 This one says it's a 250 voter, but so shall we try to be amended such that changes 1435 02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:51,440 require them majority of electors that that results are approved by a majority of the electors. 1436 02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:59,340 I'm just, but you know what, nobody has to agree with me, but if it, I don't think as a simple voter would look at that and necessarily understand that. 1437 02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,080 That's what exactly that sentence means, but I could be wrong. 1438 02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:05,080 So, we don't have some suggestion, let's move on. 1439 02:06:07,140 --> 02:06:07,180 Okay. 1440 02:06:08,660 --> 02:06:10,660 Council, Council, Council, you have your end up next. 1441 02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:19,080 Well, I wanted to say, although, so one and very supportive of this, that would have left 1442 02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:21,140 us take action on this. 1443 02:06:21,260 --> 02:06:25,160 You know, now, because of all, Tanya, all the work that went into doing this. 1444 02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:30,500 And also, it'll help us with other measures that we're trying to pass. 1445 02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:38,700 Given that same financial impact of winning until May, the wanting to actually make a decision today, 1446 02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:41,080 I'm going to make a motion. 1447 02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:43,580 Can we put that back where it? 1448 02:06:49,820 --> 02:06:55,740 That we moved to approve a mutual approval resolution number three, five, six, five, submitting a city of question. 1449 02:06:55,740 --> 02:07:01,780 City charter amendment to the question voters, amending charter section 45A charter amendments. 1450 02:07:01,780 --> 02:07:04,300 and adopting a valid title next winter,atory 1451 02:07:04,300 --> 02:07:08,680 statement to be placed on the May 2024 ballot. Would 1452 02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:10,640 you have the motion? Councilor 1453 02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:11,700 Ross, thank you for your second. 1454 02:07:17,180 --> 02:07:17,500 If you're 1455 02:07:17,500 --> 02:07:19,480 getting a second motion, that is. If you think 1456 02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:21,160 you're always saying it, okay, a second, 1457 02:07:21,980 --> 02:07:22,720 thank you. You also have 1458 02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:23,640 the same state scenario, you can do 1459 02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:27,640 the opportunity to have a discussion. Yes? Councilor 1460 02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:27,980 Daniji? 1461 02:07:29,020 --> 02:07:30,320 So, once again, 1462 02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,600 this one gives me great concerns if we can do putting 1463 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:34,360 this off. 1464 02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:52,360 Also, we'll be in a time that the Charter Committee has worked in the further we go on, the further this can drag on until we get to the other historical information and timely issues that they had raised that's going to put all the other charter amendments even further out. 1465 02:07:53,680 --> 02:08:00,580 That is a concern to me and the other question that I did have was the one request I did have is Sharon Dias that he had a, 1466 02:08:00,580 --> 02:08:06,700 It's a little bit, just like you, but like you, it's a little bit perhaps to you, Jane, I would 1467 02:08:06,700 --> 02:08:08,680 really appreciate it. 1468 02:08:08,940 --> 02:08:13,240 If you've got a chance to look that over with his experiences also, just my thoughts. 1469 02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:13,860 Thank you. 1470 02:08:18,410 --> 02:08:18,710 It's great. 1471 02:08:19,130 --> 02:08:21,270 We have the motion of what's been presented. 1472 02:08:23,230 --> 02:08:27,750 So at this point, we're not able to consider additional language on this motion. 1473 02:08:27,750 --> 02:08:39,690 So just a form of process and we will go forward, we would have to, this most will not have to pass and then we could reconsider additional language. 1474 02:08:41,030 --> 02:08:43,590 So I want to make sure, I want to make sure, so there's no misunderstanding. 1475 02:08:45,290 --> 02:08:51,070 And I mean, if we're going to consider additional language, we want to effectively see the additional language. 1476 02:08:51,470 --> 02:08:54,010 That would be prepared in a resolution going forward. 1477 02:08:54,010 --> 02:08:59,470 Yeah, I don't any discussion. I just wanted Jane to get a chance to see what he had in case later on. 1478 02:08:59,650 --> 02:09:03,770 I'm not asking for any proposal at this time for any changes. I just thought it was great. 1479 02:09:03,850 --> 02:09:09,310 When he imagined in comments that he had some suggestions, that would be great if she had them as we go for it. 1480 02:09:09,370 --> 02:09:11,050 Got it. 1481 02:09:14,500 --> 02:09:25,140 So, Jane, I believe you have the information that was suggested that you receive. 1482 02:09:26,930 --> 02:09:28,550 I have the envelope. 1483 02:09:30,030 --> 02:09:30,430 All right. 1484 02:09:31,210 --> 02:09:33,910 So, any further discussion at this point? 1485 02:09:36,620 --> 02:09:36,740 All right. 1486 02:09:37,540 --> 02:09:39,160 Here, men? 1487 02:09:39,540 --> 02:09:40,100 Oh, question. 1488 02:09:40,460 --> 02:09:41,020 You can just one. 1489 02:09:41,740 --> 02:09:43,900 So, last week when we updated the verbridge, 1490 02:09:44,260 --> 02:09:46,180 could we give us a synopsis again, 1491 02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:48,440 so why we updated the verbridge, 1492 02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:52,900 as far as, on the, or to those two sentences out? 1493 02:09:53,420 --> 02:09:56,340 So, effectively, actually, 1494 02:09:56,340 --> 02:09:59,980 I'll turn it over to Council President Piazza, Chief. 1495 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,520 We have the request and then I'll add to it if there's any additional conversation. 1496 02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:09,700 I asked for them to be removed because I wanted it to be a non-biased statement. 1497 02:10:10,220 --> 02:10:15,900 And I felt that those two sentences were very biased and that we shouldn't have biased one way or the other. 1498 02:10:15,980 --> 02:10:21,100 The city's bringing this to the people and the people just need to know the fact and make that decision. 1499 02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:21,860 That's all. 1500 02:10:24,460 --> 02:10:30,360 So effectively, I've just highlighted certain things that did not pass based on historical information. 1501 02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:39,200 So, it was said to let's just ensure that the in the explanation and responsible type statement. 1502 02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:48,680 It just says, hey, here's the, here's the, here's the situation in here's what we're moving forward. 1503 02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:53,460 Right, but still supportive from moving forward. Just a few community new members asked me a lot. 1504 02:10:53,460 --> 02:10:59,840 with me. We're concerned that we were removing history out of just our journal history and 1505 02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:05,280 information for community members. So it's no shot on. I just want to bring that up because 1506 02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:06,160 I forgot. 1507 02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:12,560 Yeah, I was one of the quick things that we talked about last week. I think in the middle of 1508 02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:15,360 the trial of amendments and anything that we're changing with the trial of the I think 1509 02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:20,420 part of it's just going to be the kind of the big picture of, you know, the landies a little 1510 02:11:20,420 --> 02:11:23,840 different, but I'd be something that, you know, we're all squirting off. I think as we move 1511 02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:28,000 these things forward, there's going to be potentially disagreement as to what fully gets 1512 02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:32,220 moved forward. And I think that, you know, as we move it as we have an opportunity to move 1513 02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:38,920 this forward, I think as a council, you know, it's really about how we'd be, how do we be 1514 02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:44,520 fairly agnostic, you know, and ensure that the voters have an opportunity to vote on many 1515 02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:48,840 these items that the committee works so hard to bring forward. 1516 02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:54,160 So, all right, with that, let's call the question, 1517 02:11:54,300 --> 02:11:57,540 all those in favor of resolution number three, five, 1518 02:11:57,540 --> 02:12:01,120 six, five, placing the five by saying aye, aye, 1519 02:12:01,420 --> 02:12:02,580 in the opposed same size. 1520 02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:05,000 So we have one more because they're denucci. 1521 02:12:05,220 --> 02:12:06,480 Thank you very much. 1522 02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:10,120 So I'm motion carries, I'm looking to everyone. 1523 02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:18,580 With that, I will now move to the final agenda item, and that is the, well, final 1524 02:12:18,580 --> 02:12:19,600 business item. 1525 02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:22,040 It has the city manager report. 1526 02:12:24,220 --> 02:12:25,160 Thank you, Mayor. 1527 02:12:25,420 --> 02:12:32,040 Attached in your packet for this evening is the July City Manager's report. 1528 02:12:33,340 --> 02:12:40,400 So our question is great for this month, comes to come to my community member, and it's 1529 02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:48,540 Several other parks in recreation staff for community members said thank you all and everyone at the city for updating our community park 1530 02:12:48,540 --> 02:12:52,960 It's shaping up great and my neighbors shared. They have been going since improvements started 1531 02:12:52,960 --> 02:13:01,540 Thank you for helping us take pride in our community. So thank you Johnny Renee Cody and James from Parks and Recreation for their great work 1532 02:13:02,380 --> 02:13:04,040 Also have a 1533 02:13:04,040 --> 02:13:09,180 extra special aggression great today. We like to celebrate wins every day when they come 1534 02:13:09,180 --> 02:13:14,020 our staff does phenomenal work every day and Eric and I just recently learned that 1535 02:13:14,020 --> 02:13:21,320 really our homeless services specialists had a personal record today. He permanently housed four 1536 02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:26,660 people, two households and also placed four people into a low barrier shelter all in the 1537 02:13:26,660 --> 02:13:28,780 work. Pretty awesome. So, thank you really. 1538 02:13:34,090 --> 02:13:36,730 Also, in the first page, as usual, we've 1539 02:13:36,730 --> 02:13:41,910 highlighted some data trends. I don't know if something interesting that you 1540 02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:46,970 actually don't see on here. You do see an increase in shoplifting. We have 1541 02:13:46,970 --> 02:13:51,450 experienced year over year when you compare 23 to 22. Of course, if you have the 1542 02:13:51,450 --> 02:13:56,590 data from 2021, 2020, that's clearly impacted by COVID and stores not being open. 1543 02:13:56,590 --> 02:14:02,170 But actually if you go all the way back to 2019, our shoplifting numbers are actually 1544 02:14:02,170 --> 02:14:05,070 similar in comparison to pre-pandemic. 1545 02:14:05,330 --> 02:14:06,270 So it's just an interesting note. 1546 02:14:06,350 --> 02:14:12,030 If you put in context beyond just looking at the previous year, we had seen, you know, a 1547 02:14:12,030 --> 02:14:15,150 fairly significant amount of shoplifting before that as well. 1548 02:14:15,990 --> 02:14:21,970 But I'm just going to scroll down to the second page, the bottom half, because for this 1549 02:14:21,970 --> 02:14:26,190 month, I wanted to highlight some of the great innovation. 1550 02:14:26,190 --> 02:14:31,510 that we do here at the city. Our staff are always looking at how can we do things 1551 02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:35,250 about it, how can we respond to our community with the limited resources that we have, 1552 02:14:35,430 --> 02:14:39,210 other technologies that there we could be leveraging. So I highlighted in this month's report 1553 02:14:39,730 --> 02:14:44,590 two initiatives. One is our drones as first responders program out of a police permit. 1554 02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:49,570 And the second is this really cool small innovation that our parks permit did. 1555 02:14:49,570 --> 02:14:58,490 Our police department, thanks to leadership of Sergeant Amen and Archief, have begun a pilot to join this first responders program. 1556 02:14:58,770 --> 02:14:59,970 We will be only the... 1557 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:08,720 16th program in the entire country, which is pretty cool. It's a very excited about this. The FR and user 1558 02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:14,920 ML operator to launch the drone from within a control room. It's autonomously flown, so we're 1559 02:15:14,920 --> 02:15:20,720 not driving it autonomously flown to the location of a call for service. When it gets to that location, 1560 02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:26,620 then we manually take over and are able to direct how we're using the drone. We have clearly 1561 02:15:26,620 --> 02:15:32,400 have it piloted, launching here at City Hall, so we are able to go within a one-mile radius, 1562 02:15:32,560 --> 02:15:39,860 I believe it is, with two miles with our drone, we're able to respond to calls quicker than 1563 02:15:39,860 --> 02:15:45,880 an officer can get there in a vehicle, so we have eyes on situations faster than we ever could 1564 02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:52,040 within our two-mile radius, as an example within our two-mile radius is a downtown. So the other 1565 02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:55,700 day, there was incident downtown, we were able to fly the drone there, try to get eyes on 1566 02:15:55,700 --> 02:16:02,020 was happening in the situation, but also it's helpful for both officer and firefighter 1567 02:16:02,020 --> 02:16:08,040 safety. We have already deployed the drones to several fires. It provides Eisenhower, 1568 02:16:08,540 --> 02:16:15,720 the ability to track things is really an amazing program. They excited about this and really proud 1569 02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:21,420 of our police for rent for this school new innovative program that we're trying. And our second 1570 02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:28,620 small innovation is our main city park bench improvements. What can you remember reach out who uses a wheelchair? 1571 02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:33,140 Yeah, and we're trying to find an accessible picking table in Main City Park. 1572 02:16:33,860 --> 02:16:36,720 We don't have any. So there's such a parks and Mags that were so disappointed. 1573 02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:39,160 You know, to me, something is successful. 1574 02:16:40,860 --> 02:16:43,580 You know, some governments who say, oh, that's going to cost money. 1575 02:16:43,860 --> 02:16:46,140 We have to do, you know, we don't have anything right now. 1576 02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:49,420 We can help you. We'll put it on the list. We'll get back to you three years from now. 1577 02:16:49,420 --> 02:16:52,960 Not all parts team, they're even out that same day 1578 02:16:52,960 --> 02:16:57,200 to try to look at what can you do to make one picnic table 1579 02:16:57,200 --> 02:16:59,620 at least accessible to somebody in a wheelchair. 1580 02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:01,820 And so they took a look at the infrastructure 1581 02:17:01,820 --> 02:17:03,620 and thought, why don't we just remove 1582 02:17:03,620 --> 02:17:05,720 because there's kind of four benches around the table? 1583 02:17:06,580 --> 02:17:08,220 We have the tools that are doing our vehicle 1584 02:17:08,220 --> 02:17:10,080 to remove one of those four benches 1585 02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:11,720 so someone can literally roll their wheelchair 1586 02:17:11,720 --> 02:17:13,700 right up to that picnic table. 1587 02:17:13,940 --> 02:17:15,680 So they went ahead and did it, email the community 1588 02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:17,460 and remember back, they're absolutely delighted 1589 02:17:17,460 --> 02:17:20,360 that were able to solve this problem really quickly. 1590 02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:22,420 And so thankful for the staff who, 1591 02:17:22,420 --> 02:17:24,840 I got the limited resources, finds ways 1592 02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:26,860 to just solve problems and help our community. 1593 02:17:27,320 --> 02:17:29,720 Every day, I answer one to point out a few innovations 1594 02:17:29,720 --> 02:17:32,520 for this month, City Manager's part, and that's all I have. 1595 02:17:34,410 --> 02:17:34,710 That's all. 1596 02:17:35,150 --> 02:17:35,610 That's all. 1597 02:17:35,790 --> 02:17:36,590 That's a lot. 1598 02:17:38,250 --> 02:17:41,410 God still, the team will work that they do every single day 1599 02:17:41,410 --> 02:17:42,870 in the community. 1600 02:17:44,030 --> 02:17:45,470 Any questions for any stranger? 1601 02:17:45,470 --> 02:17:45,470 And 1602 02:17:48,160 --> 02:17:53,460 here in that, we're not going to allow us to do that, which is legislative proposals. 1603 02:17:53,660 --> 02:17:55,860 Council, legislative proposals can't. 1604 02:17:57,520 --> 02:17:58,540 Council, President Biason. 1605 02:17:58,820 --> 02:18:05,820 I just want to commend the citizens that, well, first, the citizens that help stop the gentleman 1606 02:18:05,820 --> 02:18:08,680 that broke the 12 business windows and downtown Russian. 1607 02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:12,100 So first, for him, for being a great citizen. 1608 02:18:12,660 --> 02:18:17,620 And then for the downtown business community that came in on the morning of July 4th to help 1609 02:18:17,620 --> 02:18:23,520 that class and help the other businesses that have been hit by this person and then the community 1610 02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:31,220 that came out and cleaned up downtown Gresham right before the art festival. It just shows 1611 02:18:31,220 --> 02:18:37,080 what a wonderful city we have and how people pull for each other and then thank you to all 1612 02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:42,600 the volunteers and the workers at the city that put on our art festival which I believe was another 1613 02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:44,600 successful about for the city. 1614 02:18:45,940 --> 02:18:46,620 Thank you, Council President. 1615 02:18:47,340 --> 02:18:48,220 And the measures are proposals. 1616 02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:54,200 Councillor Jones, Dixon. 1617 02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:00,900 Okay, I'll go. 1618 02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:03,500 Just for a minute, I'll clear. 1619 02:19:04,500 --> 02:19:05,740 Just wanted to say something. 1620 02:19:05,960 --> 02:19:07,760 You know, the volunteers that helped out. 1621 02:19:07,900 --> 02:19:09,240 It was a hot one this last weekend. 1622 02:19:09,700 --> 02:19:10,620 So especially the ambassadors. 1623 02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:12,360 Everybody was out there. 1624 02:19:12,640 --> 02:19:13,800 It's a police department, fire department. 1625 02:19:14,500 --> 02:19:14,980 So thank you. 1626 02:19:14,980 --> 02:19:15,780 Thank you, fire department. 1627 02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:16,740 You guys got me hydrated. 1628 02:19:17,300 --> 02:19:18,500 Got witch firefighter gaming water. 1629 02:19:19,300 --> 02:19:21,460 But the beautiful thing is a lot of everyone. 1630 02:19:21,460 --> 02:19:26,140 attendees all there was hot they were extremely appreciative of just the support from the volunteers 1631 02:19:26,140 --> 02:19:32,700 and just coming into this space so hats off to City of Gresham and also just wanted to 1632 02:19:32,700 --> 02:19:37,480 give a shout out to the Hope Center at Opportunity to they had their first day of summer camp 1633 02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:43,880 yesterday so I had an opportunity to work out with the kids and the youth and run through the rockwood 1634 02:19:43,880 --> 02:19:48,940 it was extremely therapeutic and great so they're doing great work and I had an opportunity 1635 02:19:50,660 --> 02:19:53,840 other nonprofits as well. When we have the heart of our 1636 02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:57,040 conversation, I was going to wait till tomorrow to talk to you about it. If we can discuss 1637 02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:59,580 additional funding for CBOs, 1638 02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:10,180 I'll be great sometime this fall. Those are my only updates. Thank you, Councillor Jones. Thanks and thank you for running yesterday. 1639 02:20:11,260 --> 02:20:18,940 I appreciate that. I'll have to take a lot for the 30 years of football and I wouldn't have made it. A fourth grader. He said, you got a fence. You got it. You'll make it. 1640 02:20:18,940 --> 02:20:22,280 And that ranch will lock with the hope center, 1641 02:20:22,420 --> 02:20:24,540 all the way to the 90th, yeah, it's free. 1642 02:20:24,680 --> 02:20:26,520 I know you're, I know you do throw running. 1643 02:20:27,160 --> 02:20:30,520 But I get some encouragement before you have today as you 1644 02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:32,960 got this, we won't share the water pipe for you. 1645 02:20:33,180 --> 02:20:36,160 And I'll give it to the fire department for saving my family. 1646 02:20:36,380 --> 02:20:36,880 And I'll give it to the fire department for saving my family. 1647 02:20:36,880 --> 02:20:37,020 And I'll give it to the fire department for saving my family. 1648 02:20:37,020 --> 02:20:37,360 And I'll give it to the fire department for saving my family. 1649 02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:39,200 It's another aggression, they're the fire department. 1650 02:20:39,340 --> 02:20:41,080 We don't provide it, they help you out. 1651 02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:42,000 Can I send my audience? 1652 02:20:43,720 --> 02:20:46,580 Well, I know we had a lot of discussion earlier today on the 1653 02:20:46,580 --> 02:20:53,860 and we talked about the districts and I just wanted to make sure that we are moving forward 1654 02:20:53,860 --> 02:20:57,640 with exploiting feasibility, study on the fire district. 1655 02:20:58,880 --> 02:21:01,740 And do we need to give any more direction around that? 1656 02:21:06,100 --> 02:21:06,360 All right. 1657 02:21:08,980 --> 02:21:09,500 Did 1658 02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:13,900 you hear something? 1659 02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:15,140 Just one other thing. 1660 02:21:15,140 --> 02:21:18,040 When can we come, check out the government with the DFR team.