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>> Well, it's been a long time since I've

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>> Good stuff.

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Probably not, but it's cool.

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>> Call to order the Gridley City Council

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special City Council meeting

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June 18th, 2026 at 2:00.

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Roll call, please.

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>> Vice Mayor Johnson.

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>> Here.

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>> Mayor Farr.

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>> Here.

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>> Council Member Calderon.

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>> Here.

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>> Council Member Sanchez and Council

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Member Roberts both absent.

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>> Uh community participation forum,

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members of the public may address City

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Council on matters not listed on the

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agenda.

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City Council may not discuss or act on

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any community participation item

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brought forward by a member of the

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community. All members of the public

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will be limited to 3 minutes.

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Uh no consent agenda. I'll move to items

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of Council consideration.

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Item number one, 2026-2027

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quality fire agreement between City of

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» Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Thank

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you for taking your time to be today. Uh

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I [clears throat] apologize that this

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did not make it onto the last uh

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council meeting. That was because I had

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noticed the mistake in the the numbers

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and wanted to find out exactly why

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numbers weren't matching up, and so I

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had to make that uh

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had to make that correction and

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determine what the issue was in the uh

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So, yeah, that that brings us to here,

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uh um

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we asked you to be here today, and so I

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appreciate you taking time out of your

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So, uh City Gridley is and Cal Fire have

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maintained a cooperative uh fire

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agreement since 1991 for all hazard

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emergency response. The There are

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numerous benefits uh that maintaining

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this cooperative agreement. Uh I'll list

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them briefly here. Being a part of

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regional fire protection offers depth of

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resources available to the city. The

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fire engine is currently county-owned

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and runs majority of the calls. The

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county funds the personnel that uh work

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>> whereas the city uh um

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funds the personnel on the ladder truck.

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The county owns fire station. The city

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benefits in experience uh

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from experienced chief officers uh 7

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dispatching services. Uh state covers

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unfunded liabilities. The city gains

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revenue from rentals to the state for

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wildfires

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uh totaling $824,000

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in the last 6 years. Uh contract cost uh

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versus actual bill has always been less

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uh than originally agreed upon, uh

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estimating that we'll get back uh over

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$80,000 this year. Uh we've averaged

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5 years. And the city has access to the

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prevention bureau,

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uh the shop services, and the volunteer

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firefighters uh they're part of the

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county program. Gridley currently funds

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one uh communication operator that works

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in the uh emergency dispatch, and then

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one captain and four and a half

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engineers. And the uh this new agreement

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fully funds that fifth engineer.

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That was partially funded last year, and

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this will complete funding three full

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shifts on the ladder truck, which meets

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the needs of the 66-hour work week that

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the Cal Fire switched to uh

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began switching to 2 years ago.

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three three shifts of two people each

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day on the ladder truck with this

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agreement being signed.

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And it brings us closer to meeting

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industry staffing standards.

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Uh the existing contract expires June

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30th. I'm recommending that the council

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adopt the updated cooperative fire

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agreement before you for fiscal year

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2026-2027,

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uh totaling $1,578,875.

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how many Is this county How many ladder

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>> That matter with the Cal Fire?

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with Oroville City. So we have access to

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truck, which will be uh still discussing

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with them what to do with it.

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Uh we we can sell it or we can keep it

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as a reserve. There's also potential of

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selling it to Oroville City

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or another municipality nearby. If we

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sold it to Oroville City or kept it

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within Butte County, then it would be

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able to be a reserve here kind of

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between all the different agencies. So

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that's something we're looking at. Uh

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then we have our new ladder truck. So

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we'll maintain one here, one in Oroville

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City, and then Chico Fire Department has

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two that are not uh incorporated into

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our contract, but uh we can we can

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get them through mutual aid. And there's

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this There's a one staffed, one as a reserve, also.

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really one under Chico Fire.

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>> So, the fire another truck is very

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>> In this tower.

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>> Absolutely. Yes, and a lot of people

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think that like what is, you know, what

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is a small town need with a ladder

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truck, but you look at all of our all of

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our uh agricultural facilities. Like

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none of those are reachable by ground

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ladders. Those are Those are uh you

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know, our ladder reach 105 ft doesn't

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actually get 105 ft up because it has to

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have, you know, climbing angle. So, your horizontal reach might only be 70

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building. So, yeah, there's there's tons

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of application for a ladder truck. It is

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you know, how a lifeline works and is

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very being very essential

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uh and and Gridley is paying for that.

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>> Do we get compensated for use of that?

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between the city of Gridley and the um

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on resources moving between the two

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because it's a it's a give and take. So,

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the city for all of those, you might get

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15 resources there and you wouldn't want

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to obviously the city wouldn't want to

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pay for that, whereas the ladder truck

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going to another municipality

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wouldn't be fair to bill there, either.

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piece of equipment, but also you're the

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squeeze a little bit more out of this

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contract. Uh But that's obviously not

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>> On the state side of things, by by you

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municipalities [clears throat]

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within our umbrella to hire. So, we have

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a a city bought a Type 3 fire engine,

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which is essentially like a uh

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brush rig, you know. Uh and so, the city

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owns that, and the state we specifically

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try to rent that from the city, and

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That's That's where that $824,000,

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Marysville or something had a fire

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engine,

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general we try not to bill each other

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because at some point you might ask for

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one of their ladder trucks to come

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assist one of our fires.

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rate that we bill, that's based on all the different

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bargaining units and how they have set

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everything up. So, it's

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um yeah, that fluctuates every year, and

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that's kind of what dictates our

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contract cost. Uh

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City of Gridley's getting, you know,

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you're getting a very reasonable deal

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uh this the fire engine, which is funded

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by the county it is running about

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probably 70 to 80% of the the call

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volume here in the city. The city runs

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more calls than the county out of out of

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it as far as the station is concerned.

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So so the wear and tear for to a large

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degree is on a county piece of equipment

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that's operated by personnel paid for by

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Butte County and then the city provides

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that ladder truck which is is very

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specialized but used much less.

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cost personnel to run a ladder truck

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than it would be a conventional vehicle?

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>> The personnel or the the personnel cost

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is the same. The equipment is uh

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There's some specialized equipment

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that's also expensive but we the new

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ladder truck does not have uh

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you know uh

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you know as you know that the apparatus

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is very expensive and so we we tried to

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reuse a lot of the equipment from the

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old ladder truck and so we did not have

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a whole lot of equipment costs uh

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comparatively to if we bought everything

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new. So

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uh there is there would be those

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expenses but we tried to cut those as

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much as possible to save the city money.

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>> Yeah.

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Go ahead.

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>> Just a comment and

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uh

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I appreciate the fire department not

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only not only we're used to get

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experience practical experience

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I know a few kids and last one I know

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that I know

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uh

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volunteer for the fire department and

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this uh Sam Sam

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uh

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he learned a lot in Downey.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> Uh that is really a lot

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more is more

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I would say however this

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the money justifies it.

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So

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I'm glad and I hope you continue to

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provide this kind of services to Downey.

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>> Question though.

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» I had uh number one day yeah. uh

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the maintenance on the fire trucks and

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all that's all covered by the county.

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>> No, the ladder truck is fully funded by

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the city. When it goes to our shop,

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that's where you benefit on our shop as

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they they can do a lot of diagnosing and

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not bill the city.

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Uh

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so they can go over there or we have

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some like aerial specialists that can

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look at it. They they don't necessarily

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have the capacity to

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do all the work but they can do some

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diagnosing if it's something just basic

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mechanical related with motor or the

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uh chassis or something, they can make

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those those repairs and and not

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necessarily bill the city.

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Uh but if it were to get sent to a

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specialized shop like a firm truck or uh

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another large shop within the city, we'd

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have to pay for that. But we anticipate

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with the new purchase of the new ladder

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truck, the old one's 19 years old and so

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those maintenance costs were starting to accumulate and starting to

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have more issues with it. It actually

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went out of service

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last week. Uh the aerial uh

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the aerial wasn't functioning anymore so

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it had to put [clears throat] one of the

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rams had to be replaced so

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uh yeah, so those are starting to add up

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and so obviously if we're not running an

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old ladder truck anymore all the time,

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we're

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running something newer, we anticipate

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that the the maintenance costs are going

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to go down on the new ladder truck.

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» I I'm not sure if my numbers are right.

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>> I think uh

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last year your budget was somewhere

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around 1.2 million.

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>> Uh for the 1.

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for the contract itself?

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>> Yeah.

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>> Our

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total last year was 1 uh 1.42.

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The 1 million 427.

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>> What is it for year?

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>> 1,578,000

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So that's the number

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the

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rate didn't really go up

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much at all. The this is just us

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finishing what we what my understanding

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is with

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Chief Fowler, the agreement to start

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working toward filling that third shift

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for the 66-hour work week. This is just

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finishing paying for a position that we

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partially funded last year.

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>> That's what the increase of purchase

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amount too.

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>> Correct.

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>> Okay.

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That's what I was wondering, what caused

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that

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increase to come up. I forgot about

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that.

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66-hour

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>> Yeah. I I would expect, you know, every

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year, just like everything, things are

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going to go up, but that's why this is more this year is

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because we're we're sticking with the

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plan to increase that

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position.

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>> So kind of everything is doubled since I

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first sat in this chair.

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Literally.

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>> [laughter]

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» Any other questions from council?

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>> No, sir.

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» Thank you.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> Yes.

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Hey, administrator, [clears throat] did

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you have anything to add?

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>> Yeah, um I wanted to mention um in the

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staff report, we we do have some um

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fiscal impact um

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information that we placed there, just

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um notifying and and letting for the

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record know that we are um as a city

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um ensuring and trying to ensure that we

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are continuing to look for funding

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sources for uh fire fire services and

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police services. Uh we did apply for

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safer grants. We did not we're not

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successful um this year, but we're going

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to continue to go after the the safer grants to assist with uh fire

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and police protection services.

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So, we're taking a few We're also

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reviewing um

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also what areas we could potentially

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this year we cut back a lot in the

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general fund and so

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we were successful in bringing forward a

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budget that was not at at a negative

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we're in the red on anything. So,

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but moving forward because we were

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mentioned that trajectory of this

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general fund we need to ensure that

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we're being proactive

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in monitoring that.

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>> City of Gridley definitely needs a good

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fire department. I feel like we do have

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a good fire department.

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We appreciate all your efforts.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Yeah.

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» We don't pay more than anything.

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Is there any talk about

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It's an action item.

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>> Yes.

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» I'll make a motion to accept the uh

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I'm glad we finally got between City of

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Gridley and Cal Fire. A motion to

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approve resolution 2026-R-023.

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» I'll second.

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>> Roll call, please.

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>> Councilmember Cabrera?

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>> Yes.

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>> Mayor Farr?

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>> Yes.

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>> Uh Vice Mayor Johnson?

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>> Yes.

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» If there's

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nothing else