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>> Welcome, everyone to the Gulfport, Florida.

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Join us in rising.

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>> Thank you so much for being here.

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It is good to realize that love and peace can prevail

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on earth.

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We have become not a melting pot but a beautiful

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mosaic.

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Different people, different hopes and different dreams.

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Each of us must rededicate ourselves to serving the

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common good.

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We are community.

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Our individual fates are intertwined.

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And if we act on that knowledge, we can move mountains.

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Jimmy Carter.

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39th President.

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>> Thank you.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States

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of America, and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> Roll call, please, city clerk.

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>> Council member Brown.

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>> Yes.

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>> Council member Ray.

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>> Here.

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>> Mayor Henderson.

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>> Here.

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>> City manager o'Reilly.

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>>> We have a couple of presentation this evening.

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One is by Suzanne.

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We look forward to that.

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But we also have a surprise one today.

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I'd like to bring them up now.

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How are you doing?

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>> Great.

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How are you?

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>> Good.

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>> We have a check that we'd like to present from

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o'maddy's bar and grill.

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O'maddy Gunther wanted to be here tonight but she

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couldn't.

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She was the brains behind the operation and the raising

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of the money for Gulfport.

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We raised for Gulfport little league.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Mr. Malorie, by the way, who is running Gulfport

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little league now played for the blue jays, if I'm

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>>> We'd like to bring up the lgbtq resource center

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read out for 2021.

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Hey, Susan.

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>> Thank you.

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I have to bring the microphone way down.

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Thank you all, we are pleased to make this

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presentation.

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I want to thank Diana sulveri immediately for making

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the presentation you see before you.

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I am the President Of the board of the lgbtq Resource

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Center.

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It is an absolute lynchpin, as you know in Gulfport.

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And what happened with the pandemic is everything

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closed down.

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Including all of our events.

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Since last February until this February.

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When seven people decided there was a need for a

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lesbian literary festival.

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And what I'm going to ask Milton to tell you about in

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just a minute is how incredibly successful that was

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because of the support of the city of Gulfport.

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First, for those who aren't familiar with the resource

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center, if you would, hit the second slide.

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Dave, could we have another slide?

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Thank you.

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Our mission -- okay, I'm so glad I brought my glasses.

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Is committed to -- oh, that doesn't help.

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Promoting the awareness of the diversity of experience,

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contributions and needs of people who are lesbian, gay,

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bisexual, transgender and queer.

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We do this by providing educational social and

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recreational opportunities through the Gulfport public

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library, including books, films, music, speakers,

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exhibition, and eens.

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And this year it has been all about online presence.

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Next slide, please.

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You May ar May not know that in 2018, the American

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library association recognized the Gulfport library and

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the lgbtq resource center specifically with its

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newlen-Symans award.

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We do incredible outreach not only locally but beyond.

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Next slide, please.

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Here's a quote from the chair of the round table at the

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American library association.

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Their programs, resources, outreach and partnerships

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for and with the lgbtqia+ community are an amazing

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example for all of us to learn from.

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And if everyone wants to know all those letters, just

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ask later.

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The acronym goes on forever.

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We were part of the library's application with the

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institute for museum and library services, which chose

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only five libraries from across the United States to

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receive the National Medal.

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Part of the reason they gave for awarding Gulfport this

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highest federal honor a library can receive, was from

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the lgbtq resource center's integral part of the fabric

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of Gulfport.

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Next slide, please.

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And now we come to Milton's part, readout.

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Milton, are you there?

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>> I am here.

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Can you hear me?

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Thank you for having me tonight.

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I am at a distance still staying home virtually.

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But one of the great events that happened this year

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already for the lgbtq resource center was Readout.

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This is an annual event, a festival of lesbian

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literature.

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This year was particularly interesting because this

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year we held the event at the library live in-person,

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with about 145 folks attending.

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That's about the capacity of space.

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This year it would have been easy with covid raging for

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us to cancel it this year.

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Regroup and start again next year when covid is

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But instead, the planning committee, 7 of us, decided

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we wanted to try do this virtually.

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We weren't sure we could do this.

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It was uncharted territory for most of us.

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They thought it especially captured the Gulfport and

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the spirit of the public library and the resource

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center.

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Next slide, please.

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So we surprised even ourselves.

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We took this much bigger.

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Last year the event was about 145 participants at the

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This year we did an entire virtual event and we drew

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nearly 1,000 registrants who participated in the event

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across the 2.5 days.

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We took it entirely virtual and ended up rather than

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shrinking it, rather than giving in to covid-19, we

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decided to keep forging ahead to persist and prevail.

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And we had nine live, and 15 pre-recorded sessions over

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2.5 days that featured over 100 writers and 22

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entertainers, musicians, et cetera.

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We're also particularly excited to tell you that our

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registrants weren't just from around the United States

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or just even from Florida, but came from 21 other

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countries, including ta tansaneia, U.K., Australia, and

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We did this not on our own but with a number of

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sponsors.

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weren't able to donate money.

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event.

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You'll see on this list many from the Tampa Bay and

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Pinellas county areas.

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But you'll also see a few from the United States.

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We were excited to share the magic of Gulfport and this

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event with all of these folks who were kind enough to

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share the word across all their social media and email

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accounts.

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Quick thank you to the organizing committee.

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Some of you May know some of these names.

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Movers and shakers.

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Jeanine Norman who joined us from Alabama.

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Readout wasn't enough for us.

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So our next big event will be opening Saturday, May

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It will be partially live in the library where we'll be

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exhibiting artists and themes.

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We hope it will match readout and the reach of readout.

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Next slide, please.

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Finally, a thank you to the lgbtq resource center board

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of directors.

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They dedicate all their time daily.

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Bill Ward, of course, serves as our treasurer.

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Next slide, please.

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Finally, of course, none of this could happen no matter

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how many volunteers, et cetera, we have without the

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support of the entire city of Gulfport, including the

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city council.

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And of course everyone at the library.

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We want to particularly thank some folks at the library

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and city staff, Dave Mather, Ashley Johnson, Diana

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sillVera, and Jacob Taylor for helping us navigate the

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difficulties of taking on an event of this size.

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We were fortunate to have a Readout marketing

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consultant Sarah junke.

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>> We just want to thank the city of Gulfport, the city

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council, the city library, and all people here who just

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made this happen.

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It's pretty amazing and we plan to keep growing it.

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>> Thank you, Susan.

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>> For those of you who don't know, our librarian is

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sitting up in that booth handling remote calls right

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now.

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He's not afraid to go anywhere.

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I was very proud to be a part of that and well

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deserved.

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>>> This brings us to public open comment.

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We ask that you use your microphone. Please give your

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full name and address if you wish for anybody to follow

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You'll have three minutes.

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Everybody try to keep it cool.

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And we'll start with anyone who wants to put their hand

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Yes, sir, I saw you first in the middle. Yes, sir.

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>> Hi, my name is Ken Simmons, 3205 58th street south.

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I feel like the council person and mayor should be

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censored for their inappropriate comments and behavior

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in the last meeting.

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>> All right. Yes, ma'am.

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Bonnie slern, Pelican Bay plaza.

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While the responses in the gab to comments made at the

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last council meeting relevant to the last election,

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none of those are on record, other than congresswomen's

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response.

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This is for a response that will be on record.

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I was disappointed and embarrassed by the comments made

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by Christine Brown and verbally endorsed by other xhebs

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about vice mayor April Thanos.

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April has repeatedly denied having anything to do with

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republication of an interview Christine and her husband

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gave willingly.

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That should have been enough to stop the repeated

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allegations.

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Not doing so fringes on defamation of character, and

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essentially accuses a fellow council member of lying.

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She has no proof whether Mike bower nor April was

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responsible for the blog.

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To denigrate Mike bower from the bully pulpit was also

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over the top.

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Especially since he was not notified and had no chance

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to refute her unproven allegations.

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Mr. Bower has incredible credentials and a long list of

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credible activities.

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He put himself out there to run for office to offer his

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experience to the city.

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All that is now lost due to the accusations and

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reprehensible behavior of this council.

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This city's loss for sure.

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Anyone willing to enter political office should be

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commended, not vilified.

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She has denied even thinking about whatever he might do

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politically in the future.

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That said, if she or anyone else for that matter to

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recruit someone to run, so what?

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Does sitting on the council mean you are an heir

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apparent it is time for this council to stop the

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juvenile bickering, treat each other with respect, and

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do the business they have been elected to do, the

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citizens business.

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Thank you for your time.

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>> Thank you.

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Who is next?

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Show of hands. Yes.

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>> I have a question about mask wearing.

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Nobody is wearing a mask up there.

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What's that all about?

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>> We've got shields, buddy.

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>> Not good enough.

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Okay.

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I think you know, the ugliness the fact of the

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political realm of Gulfport is something happening

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nationally.

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I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

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Mudslinging is part of our political process, I think.

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In regards to the consent agenda, we have a reroofing

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company at the fire department.

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Is that happening?

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I'm submitting two pieces of mailers.

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One is from April, and her mailer says environmental

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and sustainability.

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The environment is one of Gulfport's most viable as

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assets.

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Protecting it is one of our top priority.

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I'd like to see a solar component on the fire

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department roof.

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Also, I have a mailer from Michael.

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And his says, continue making our buildings more energy

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efficient.

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I am assuming that also means solar.

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Submitting these as public records.

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Also, if you want things to be on public record, you

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have to submit what you say in writing to lesley

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because it's not a public record.

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They choose to put in public record what they want.

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If you don't submit documentation, it's not a public

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record.

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There's no proof.

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There's no research.

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There's not a record of it.

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Also, I am completing reading the tangled up in blue,

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the policing of America.

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In part by George Floyd.

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It's inscribed for our chief of peace officer, Michael

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Vincent.

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I'd like him to read it.

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It's a good book.

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Okay.

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Thank you. >> Thank you.

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Who is next?

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Yes, ma'am.

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>> Richard Freed.

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>> Good evening.

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My name is Kim Gillespie, I live at 5106 14th avenue

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south, Gulfport, Florida.

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When it spills over to the community, I can't really

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express myself.

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I'm so hurt in this community.

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By some of the comments from the past, by some of the

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comments currently that go on from people who are

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supposed to represent us.

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Sometimes as a minority in this community, I do feel

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marginalized. I do feel under valued.

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You know, we work in the kitchens.

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We work behind the scenes.

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We're not highly visible in Gulfport.

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We have some of the lowest voter turnout in the African

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American in Gulfport.

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And it seems like no one on the city council really

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cares why we are not voting.

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There is a reason why Black people in Gulfport don't

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want to vote.

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It's because we feel as though you don't take us

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seriously.

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The city has a history.

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This country has a history.

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I don't know how the city who can claim to be lgbtq

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friendly cannot distribute that friendliness across the

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board.

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It hurts.

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So I'll move on to the next thing.

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The habitat for humanity project, I was here for the

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presentation.

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I worked for habitat for humanity for a small period of

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time.

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I'd like for the council to consider instead of putting

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families in homes, we can build four affordable homes

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for people who are on marginalized index who can't keep

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up with their property taxes.

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Who can't put a roof on their house so their have a

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tarp over their house.

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Property taxes are going up in Gulfport.

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When someone on social security gets a $22 increase and

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their property taxes go up significantly greater with

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everything else.

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It's just a consideration I'd like the council to

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consider.

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There's a way of dividing up those units to put four

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qualified candidates in independent housing and

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ownership.

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The next thing that I'd like to ask for is if the city

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can consider providing composting barrels like they do

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in St.

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Pete.

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It's a nice way to recycle.

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You know, add to some of our gardens.

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And what we don't use, we can share with our neighbors.

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Thank you.

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Sfwloo thank you.

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Yes, Ms. Wright.

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>> Good evening, everyone.

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I'm the owner of the -- I'm also the manager of the

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stage.

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I'm here this evening to make a request to city council

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to please use the apparent noise ordinance as it is

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laid out.

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Apparently our noise ordinance is set at 65 decibel

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between -- it makes reference to many different noises:

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Phones, pets, phono graphs.

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It does not adequately serve the restaurants and bars

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at 65 decibels.

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For example, a vacuum cleaner or a hair dryer registers

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at 75 decibels.

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The noise in this room before we began was around 70

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decibels. -- I know there have been times when we

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surpassed the 65 decibels reaching 90 and 95.

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I apologize for that on behalf of my business.

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And we have taken steps to mitigate this.

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We are a new business.

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We just opened last year.

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It's a learning curve and we are learning how to do

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this.

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I went through a pandemic and I've had my fair share of

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dealings with this.

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The past weekend I measured the music that was in the

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courtyard and everyone who played.

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We were around 75-83 decibels, as measured to the

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property line in the alley.

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We seem to get most of our complaints from people and

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residents in the alley.

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I also tried to do some research as to what other

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counties and cities do.

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I did find out that pinelas County has 72 decibels.

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We have become a venue where musicians can perform and

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people can enjoy themselves in a safe outdoor space.

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We cannot continue this way if we are in constant

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violation of the ordinance, and berated by our

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neighbors.

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Find a way where we can all do business and live

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comfortably in an area where commerce and residents

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coexist.

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Thank you very much.

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>> Thank you.

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Anyone else for open public comment?

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Yes. Go right ahead.

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>> Good evening.

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My name is Dawn fisher.

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I live at 6060 shore boulevard.

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20 years ago I took a seat up here.

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I wanted to remark on the yacht club situation and the

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city.

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And I have a few words to say.

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Tonight, I'm going to be lying awake.

432
00:25:06,633 --> 00:25:09,633
What could I have done?

433
00:25:09,803 --> 00:25:12,803
What could I have said?

434
00:25:13,173 --> 00:25:15,173
I'm too late.

435
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Everyone, it's too late.

436
00:25:17,344 --> 00:25:22,144
Could this all have been different an outcome?

437
00:25:22,148 --> 00:25:25,652
How many people have been hurt?

438
00:25:25,652 --> 00:25:29,252
How much division and anger exists?

439
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Now, in my dear, dear Gulfport.

440
00:25:39,332 --> 00:25:40,667
>> Yes.

441
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In the back white shirt.

442
00:25:42,102 --> 00:25:44,502
How are you doing?

443
00:25:54,281 --> 00:25:55,515
>> Hello, everyone.

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This is my first time here.

445
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I am leafy green at 2908 1/2 boulevard south at least

446
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,894
on Thursdays.

447
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I'm a musician in town, and I want to provide

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00:26:12,232 --> 00:26:15,702
additional perspective to what Kelly Wright was talking

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about with the noise ordinances.

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As someone who lives a life of audio, I appreciate the

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00:26:21,708 --> 00:26:23,443
spirit behind these noise ordinances.

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I really treasure and value my quiet time.

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At the same time, I also treasure and value music and

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what it can bring to a community.

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I've dedicated my life to it.

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And I've seen over the months and years playing these

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shows and going to other people's shows.

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People who might be at each other's throats somewhere

459
00:26:48,168 --> 00:26:51,871
down the street will come together and celebrate life

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and our common humanity.

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And I really want to not let that go unsaid.

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As I hope we will reexamine some of these ordinances.

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They're at this point just not in touch with reality.

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Kelly mentioned the reference of phonograph.

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I think they are perhaps a little outdated.

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I was measuring decibels from the back of the room.

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When Susan and Milton was giving their presentation

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about the event, they were ranging 60-70 decibels in

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the back of the room.

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It sounded nice.

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It was not a nuisance in any way.

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And I think the spirit of our rules involve, you know,

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keeping things peaceful for people.

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And I think we can do that with different specifics. So

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thank you.

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00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:40,253
>> Thank you.

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Much appreciated.

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Yes.

479
00:27:49,362 --> 00:27:51,362
>> Good evening.

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On a different note, I'm not here to speak about any

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ordinance or anything.

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But Joe guther from o'maddy's was here today to present

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us a check for Gulfport little league.

484
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I'm the President Of little league and what he did for

485
00:28:10,650 --> 00:28:12,185
us was a very big deal.

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I had to come back here.

487
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:15,722
I just met with him at the restaurant.

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I had to come back here to publicly acknowledge what he

489
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did to Gulfport little league and youth baseball here

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in Gulfport.

491
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And I wanted to thank you, mayor, Mr. Manager Jim, Mr.

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00:28:28,902 --> 00:28:29,469
O'Reilly.

493
00:28:29,469 --> 00:28:31,371
You watched me grow into baseball.

494
00:28:31,371 --> 00:28:34,808
You used to be my coach when I was a young kid.

495
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And I went on to play professionally with the Toronto

496
00:28:38,211 --> 00:28:38,912
blue jays.

497
00:28:38,912 --> 00:28:42,682
He had a hand in stirring my pot to get me to where I

498
00:28:42,682 --> 00:28:43,516
needed to go.

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00:28:43,516 --> 00:28:46,252
I just had to come back here publicly to thank all of

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you guys here in the city of Gulfport.

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00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:51,958
And the support that we get from the local businesses

502
00:28:51,958 --> 00:28:53,920
here, it's tremendous.

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00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,531
O'maddy's is not the only business here that donates to

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00:28:58,531 --> 00:29:00,166
Gulfport little league.

505
00:29:00,166 --> 00:29:03,736
We seem to raise about $6,000 for the last three years

506
00:29:03,736 --> 00:29:06,639
on average from all local businesses here in Gulfport.

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00:29:06,639 --> 00:29:11,377
And what that does is that allows a lot of minority

508
00:29:11,377 --> 00:29:16,820
kids or -- I can't think of the word here, but let's

509
00:29:16,820 --> 00:29:19,953
just say families who couldn't afford to pay the

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00:29:19,953 --> 00:29:20,620
registration.

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But the businesses here that support us in the

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00:29:23,923 --> 00:29:27,193
donations and the sponsorship allows us to allow those

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00:29:27,193 --> 00:29:29,762
kids and those families to play baseball.

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00:29:29,762 --> 00:29:34,234
So I had to come back publicly to thank him and to

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00:29:34,234 --> 00:29:37,203
thank you guys for the city of Gulfport.

516
00:29:37,203 --> 00:29:39,973
We really appreciate everything you do for us.

517
00:29:39,973 --> 00:29:42,108
>> Thank you, Mr. Malorie.

518
00:29:42,108 --> 00:29:46,308
We're proud and honored to have you.

519
00:29:48,715 --> 00:29:50,715
>> This baseball season.

520
00:29:51,451 --> 00:29:56,851
We're at Thomason park and Hoyt field Tuesdays and

521
00:29:56,890 --> 00:29:57,490
Thursdays.

522
00:29:57,490 --> 00:29:59,580
Come out to the park and enjoy.

523
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:01,580
>> Thank you.

524
00:30:01,794 --> 00:30:03,830
>> All right. Who is next?

525
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:05,765
I see a hand right here.

526
00:30:05,765 --> 00:30:08,340
I'll get to everybody, I apologize.

527
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:11,340
I won't leave you hanging.

528
00:30:16,943 --> 00:30:18,878
>> Thank you.

529
00:30:18,878 --> 00:30:23,780
Good evening, my name is Lee Nel.

530
00:30:24,651 --> 00:30:26,419
I live in Gulfport.

531
00:30:26,419 --> 00:30:31,819
I'm a member of past commodore Boca yacht club.

532
00:30:33,993 --> 00:30:37,430
I spent my year -- enforced civil rights laws

533
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:40,867
prohibiting discrimination on the basis of race, sex,

534
00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:42,867
age, disability.

535
00:30:42,902 --> 00:30:47,740
It's a job that I loved and I'm still proud of the work

536
00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:48,841
that we did.

537
00:30:48,841 --> 00:30:49,742
Wishing doesn't make it so.

538
00:30:49,742 --> 00:30:53,780
In context, that means that anyone can sue anyone for

539
00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:54,180
anything.

540
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,549
But that doesn't mean that the defendant did anything

541
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:56,816
wrong.

542
00:30:56,816 --> 00:31:02,816
For example, as much as I wish dominion voting systems

543
00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:08,490
would limit lawsuits against Sydney Powell and Rudy

544
00:31:09,195 --> 00:31:10,930
Giuliani --

545
00:31:10,930 --> 00:31:13,930
wishing won't make it so.

546
00:31:14,634 --> 00:31:18,938
The same thing with lawsuits against bcyc. The court

547
00:31:18,938 --> 00:31:21,841
found that it was not true.

548
00:31:21,841 --> 00:31:26,312
Most everyone knows that bcyc was sued for

549
00:31:26,312 --> 00:31:26,879
discrimination.

550
00:31:26,879 --> 00:31:29,682
What most people seem to not know is we won that case.

551
00:31:29,682 --> 00:31:31,818
We were also the subject of an administrative

552
00:31:31,818 --> 00:31:33,987
complaint, which we hear about all the time.

553
00:31:33,987 --> 00:31:37,457
But again, we won that one because it never even got

554
00:31:37,457 --> 00:31:38,424
off the ground.

555
00:31:38,424 --> 00:31:43,224
And yet, we still hear how bcyc discriminated.

556
00:31:43,529 --> 00:31:47,867
And it seems like that false narrative leads to

557
00:31:47,867 --> 00:31:51,704
reactions to bcyc, instead of the actual facts.

558
00:31:51,704 --> 00:31:55,108
Bcyc was not able to publicly refute these claims while

559
00:31:55,108 --> 00:31:56,476
the case was pending.

560
00:31:56,476 --> 00:31:59,512
However, the trial court's decision is now a matter of

561
00:31:59,512 --> 00:32:00,113
public record.

562
00:32:00,113 --> 00:32:06,713
And in fact, the trial court found in bcyc's favor on

563
00:32:07,754 --> 00:32:09,122
all counts.

564
00:32:09,122 --> 00:32:15,662
The judge said at page 55, even if ring had met her

565
00:32:15,662 --> 00:32:21,668
burden, which by the way, the court found she had not,

566
00:32:21,668 --> 00:32:27,140
bcyc has more than met its burden that it had

567
00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:30,943
legitimate reasons for expelling ring from membership.

568
00:32:30,943 --> 00:32:33,680
Ring had provided false Gulfport addresses.

569
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,416
Which is very important because Gulfport residents like

570
00:32:36,416 --> 00:32:40,186
me are given about a 30% discount on the boat slip

571
00:32:40,186 --> 00:32:42,588
rental fees we pay to the city.

572
00:32:42,588 --> 00:32:44,957
Non-residents pay the full amount.

573
00:32:44,957 --> 00:32:48,528
Therefore, someone who claims a false Gulfport address

574
00:32:48,528 --> 00:32:53,399
is basically cheating the city out of that 30% of the

575
00:32:53,399 --> 00:32:53,866
rentals.

576
00:32:53,866 --> 00:32:57,403
When bcyc discovered those false addresses, and there

577
00:32:57,403 --> 00:33:01,374
were more than one, actually, confirmed by the court.

578
00:33:01,374 --> 00:33:04,477
Bcyc took action in part to protect our relationship

579
00:33:04,477 --> 00:33:05,511
with the city.

580
00:33:05,511 --> 00:33:07,880
And yet, here we are. Thank you.

581
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,280
>> Yes, in the front.

582
00:33:17,857 --> 00:33:21,457
>> Hi, my name is Richard Walters.

583
00:33:21,961 --> 00:33:26,161
I reside at 2900 45th street south, Gulfport.

584
00:33:26,833 --> 00:33:34,330
I'm an avid sailor and have been a member of the yacht

585
00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:41,147
club.

586
00:33:41,147 --> 00:33:44,951
The club game to Gulfport in 1965, dredged and built

587
00:33:44,951 --> 00:33:48,354
the south basin and made major improvements to the

588
00:33:48,354 --> 00:33:51,230
auxiliary coast guard building on the property.

589
00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:54,160
Our mission has been to promote safe boating and

590
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,929
sailing instruction for many years through our youth

591
00:33:56,929 --> 00:34:00,990
sailing program, which is free to anyone in the

592
00:34:00,990 --> 00:34:00,433
community.

593
00:34:00,433 --> 00:34:05,938
Our adult sail school, and our sponsorship of a very

594
00:34:05,938 --> 00:34:08,338
successful sea scout ship 915.

595
00:34:08,708 --> 00:34:11,778
We have taught multiple family generations how to

596
00:34:11,778 --> 00:34:12,512
safely sail.

597
00:34:12,512 --> 00:34:14,512
Many thousands.

598
00:34:14,514 --> 00:34:19,180
We have provided the majority of the funds and toys for

599
00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:22,288
the Gulfport police operation santa with our Christmas

600
00:34:22,288 --> 00:34:25,958
boat parade for over 25 years, which brings thousands

601
00:34:25,958 --> 00:34:29,228
of families with children to Gulfport each year.

602
00:34:29,228 --> 00:34:33,232
We also have a yearly fun day giving free sailboat

603
00:34:33,232 --> 00:34:36,435
rides to families in Gulfport and the surrounding

604
00:34:36,435 --> 00:34:36,836
communities.

605
00:34:36,836 --> 00:34:39,906
But this will end very shortly.

606
00:34:39,906 --> 00:34:44,110
A couple years ago the city asked us to spruce things

607
00:34:44,110 --> 00:34:47,947
up and fit in with the current marina district plan

608
00:34:47,947 --> 00:34:51,751
since they reassured us that bcyc would remain in the

609
00:34:51,751 --> 00:34:52,151
community.

610
00:34:52,151 --> 00:34:57,290
So in only a couple of years we invested $120,000 into

611
00:34:57,290 --> 00:35:01,494
the club house along with new paving, curbs, and

612
00:35:01,494 --> 00:35:01,961
signage.

613
00:35:01,961 --> 00:35:07,733
We even painted our building the same color as the main

614
00:35:07,733 --> 00:35:08,768
marina complex.

615
00:35:08,768 --> 00:35:14,640
We did that, what they asked us in good faith.

616
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,644
Now two years later, the mayor and the city council has

617
00:35:18,644 --> 00:35:22,648
decided to evict us with no cause to give very small --

618
00:35:22,648 --> 00:35:26,686
to give a very small portion of land back to the

619
00:35:26,686 --> 00:35:27,353
people.

620
00:35:27,353 --> 00:35:32,753
It is really a ruse to gentrify the area.

621
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,300
Destroy Florida -- for 55 years.

622
00:35:44,537 --> 00:35:49,575
The city intends to divert covid relief funding that

623
00:35:49,575 --> 00:35:54,614
should go to the citizens of Gulfport for a

624
00:35:54,614 --> 00:35:58,517
non-essential marina project to maximize revenue and

625
00:35:58,517 --> 00:36:01,320
push out the community clubs.

626
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,924
They want to push out the sailboats.

627
00:36:04,924 --> 00:36:09,161
Good leadership works to include all stakeholders for

628
00:36:09,161 --> 00:36:12,331
the overall good of the community.

629
00:36:12,331 --> 00:36:15,931
They're calling their personal legacy --

630
00:36:16,469 --> 00:36:18,469
>> Thank you, sir.

631
00:36:18,871 --> 00:36:19,839
>> Destroying one.

632
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:20,706
>> Three minutes, thanks.

633
00:36:20,706 --> 00:36:23,706
Right here in the front.

634
00:36:33,352 --> 00:36:38,752
>> I'm speaking to you as a transgendered woman, member

635
00:36:39,292 --> 00:36:44,664
of bcyc. I applaud the opening presentation from my

636
00:36:44,664 --> 00:36:47,330
lgbtq brothers and sisters.

637
00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:52,305
And it breaks my heart to have to come before you again

638
00:36:52,305 --> 00:36:56,275
tonight after speaking to you on February, the February

639
00:36:56,275 --> 00:37:00,212
meeting where I had every expectation and reason to

640
00:37:00,212 --> 00:37:04,183
believe that once we were acquitted of those horribly

641
00:37:04,183 --> 00:37:08,988
false charges against us, that we would then be given a

642
00:37:08,988 --> 00:37:13,392
prolonged lease until such time as the city had its

643
00:37:13,392 --> 00:37:16,896
permanent plans in place to modernize and communityize

644
00:37:16,896 --> 00:37:21,734
the property and the funding, and the plans that are in

645
00:37:21,734 --> 00:37:22,168
place.

646
00:37:22,168 --> 00:37:29,241
Now I have to come back to you again tonight as a

647
00:37:29,241 --> 00:37:35,147
transgendered woman and try to save the one place we

648
00:37:35,147 --> 00:37:41,200
had, the one social boating club we have in pinelas

649
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,493
County that you people are going to take away from us.

650
00:37:47,493 --> 00:37:52,298
After the love and appreciation city this feels for the

651
00:37:52,298 --> 00:37:53,265
lgbtq community.

652
00:37:53,265 --> 00:37:57,300
As a transgender person, we suffer more discrimination

653
00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:01,207
than our gay brothers and sisters, God bless them.

654
00:38:01,207 --> 00:38:02,575
We do.

655
00:38:02,575 --> 00:38:07,375
And that discrimination often comes from white males.

656
00:38:08,381 --> 00:38:10,781
From privileged white males.

657
00:38:12,418 --> 00:38:17,656
I've suffered slings and arrows to get to where I am

658
00:38:17,656 --> 00:38:20,590
throughout my entire transgender career.

659
00:38:20,590 --> 00:38:21,293
It has been tough.

660
00:38:21,293 --> 00:38:23,396
And it has never been tougher than it is tonight.

661
00:38:23,396 --> 00:38:26,665
And you people are breaking my heart. I've encouraged

662
00:38:26,665 --> 00:38:29,535
so many transgender gals to come to Gulfport.

663
00:38:29,535 --> 00:38:35,535
It is the most friendly place for us, I thought.

664
00:38:35,875 --> 00:38:38,377
And now people have moved here, I don't know what to

665
00:38:38,377 --> 00:38:38,811
tell them.

666
00:38:38,811 --> 00:38:41,981
I don't know how this city is being run on behalf of

667
00:38:41,981 --> 00:38:42,248
us.

668
00:38:42,248 --> 00:38:43,449
We have no other place.

669
00:38:43,449 --> 00:38:45,885
I told you that in February.

670
00:38:45,885 --> 00:38:49,722
We've been exonerated of those heinously false charges

671
00:38:49,722 --> 00:38:53,590
brought about by two tragically disturbed individuals.

672
00:38:53,590 --> 00:38:57,259
And yet, here I am begging again.

673
00:38:58,631 --> 00:39:01,434
I don't know how you guys can square that.

674
00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:03,434
I honestly don't.

675
00:39:04,904 --> 00:39:06,706
That's really all I have to say.

676
00:39:06,706 --> 00:39:11,343
I hope you search your souls and rethink your decision,

677
00:39:11,343 --> 00:39:15,140
on my behalf and on my sisters' behalf.

678
00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:15,915
Thank you. >> Thank you.

679
00:39:15,915 --> 00:39:16,816
Who else?

680
00:39:16,816 --> 00:39:18,816
Yes.

681
00:39:25,224 --> 00:39:27,224
>> Good evening, everyone.

682
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,565
My name is Dawn anjianni, I'm a full time resident in

683
00:39:32,565 --> 00:39:32,998
Gulfport.

684
00:39:32,998 --> 00:39:34,733
I have a request for the council.

685
00:39:34,733 --> 00:39:40,133
As far as the Shore Boulevard building between caddy's

686
00:39:40,506 --> 00:39:44,706
and salties with all the plywood up.

687
00:39:44,977 --> 00:39:48,470
There's a lot of concerns in this town about buildings

688
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:50,516
and how they look and how they're built.

689
00:39:50,516 --> 00:39:54,487
And if it would be gentrified or not.

690
00:39:54,487 --> 00:39:59,887
And the plywood on those buildings looks like asbury

691
00:40:00,626 --> 00:40:03,626
park during the crack epidemic.

692
00:40:04,290 --> 00:40:05,931
Everyone is concerned about this.

693
00:40:05,931 --> 00:40:09,368
I hang out over there by the marina lot, and people

694
00:40:09,368 --> 00:40:12,204
come to Gulfport and they think Gulfport is closed

695
00:40:12,204 --> 00:40:12,538
down.

696
00:40:12,538 --> 00:40:16,800
They have asked me, is everything in Gulfport open

697
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,310
because those windows are boarded up.

698
00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:20,579
So I'm asking the council, please, and I would be

699
00:40:20,579 --> 00:40:22,148
willing to be a part of it.

700
00:40:22,148 --> 00:40:25,785
I realize there's a plan in place that I am not privy

701
00:40:25,785 --> 00:40:27,190
to about these buildings.

702
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:30,790
But in the interim, can we please do something?

703
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:34,593
We have a ton of artists in the town that could paint

704
00:40:34,593 --> 00:40:36,829
those plywoods and make them look nice.

705
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:39,799
You could do so many things with it in the interim.

706
00:40:39,799 --> 00:40:41,367
I'm asking that that be done.

707
00:40:41,367 --> 00:40:43,502
I'm willing to help get it done.

708
00:40:43,502 --> 00:40:46,105
It really looks bad for our town to look like that.

709
00:40:46,105 --> 00:40:48,105
You know.

710
00:40:50,442 --> 00:40:53,546
And I don't know how long the project is going to take.

711
00:40:53,546 --> 00:40:56,916
So it might have to be a couple of art projects on top

712
00:40:56,916 --> 00:40:57,683
of the plywood.

713
00:40:57,683 --> 00:41:00,619
But just something to clean up our town a little bit

714
00:41:00,619 --> 00:41:01,954
because the optics are terrible.

715
00:41:01,954 --> 00:41:03,954
Thank you.

716
00:41:04,423 --> 00:41:08,270
>> I'm going to respond to that one, real quick.

717
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:10,270
That's private property.

718
00:41:10,863 --> 00:41:16,235
And that's basically a big developer who gave us the

719
00:41:16,235 --> 00:41:18,904
finger on the way out.

720
00:41:18,904 --> 00:41:19,872
But we don't own it.

721
00:41:19,872 --> 00:41:20,773
I'm trying to figure out.

722
00:41:20,773 --> 00:41:22,942
>> If you want to get the artists together.

723
00:41:22,942 --> 00:41:25,144
>> Private property, that's the issue.

724
00:41:25,144 --> 00:41:26,145
>> Just ask permission.

725
00:41:26,145 --> 00:41:27,179
>> Thank you.

726
00:41:27,179 --> 00:41:28,414
>> All right.

727
00:41:28,414 --> 00:41:29,448
Thanks.

728
00:41:29,448 --> 00:41:31,848
>> Who is next? Yes.

729
00:41:38,290 --> 00:41:39,391
>> Good evening.

730
00:41:39,391 --> 00:41:40,993
My name is George Anderson.

731
00:41:40,993 --> 00:41:43,393
I'm a full-time resident.

732
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:47,299
I live at 5109 17th avenue south.

733
00:41:47,299 --> 00:41:49,299
I'm a boater.

734
00:41:50,536 --> 00:41:55,441
I come to Gulfport after waiting to get a slip in the

735
00:41:55,441 --> 00:41:57,509
municipal arena for my sailboat.

736
00:41:57,509 --> 00:42:01,947
I came to live in Gulfport because I got my slip.

737
00:42:01,947 --> 00:42:07,786
Within five weeks, I closed on a new residence here in

738
00:42:07,786 --> 00:42:08,287
Gulfport.

739
00:42:08,287 --> 00:42:14,287
I'm very distressed over the fact that as a Gulfport

740
00:42:14,493 --> 00:42:20,493
member, as a Gulfport resident, that there has not been

741
00:42:20,666 --> 00:42:23,660
workshops in recent days.

742
00:42:23,135 --> 00:42:27,935
The yacht club was in discussion lease renewal

743
00:42:29,475 --> 00:42:30,276
discussions.

744
00:42:30,276 --> 00:42:36,276
And less than 30 days ago, that went from lease renewal

745
00:42:42,354 --> 00:42:44,754
to -- 90-day eviction.

746
00:42:46,258 --> 00:42:47,526
I think that's unconscionable.

747
00:42:47,526 --> 00:42:51,430
I think that's not giving the citizens of Gulfport the

748
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:54,900
window to err on what the new plans are.

749
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:59,380
It's my impression that the city of Gulfport is running

750
00:42:59,380 --> 00:42:59,872
a deficit.

751
00:42:59,872 --> 00:43:02,107
And I don't understand what's going to happen.

752
00:43:02,107 --> 00:43:05,878
How are we going to spend this money?

753
00:43:05,878 --> 00:43:12,478
How will you spend this money as good stewards of our

754
00:43:13,352 --> 00:43:18,152
tax paying residents to raise this building, destroy

755
00:43:18,824 --> 00:43:23,624
what has become a very vibrant, positive organization

756
00:43:24,263 --> 00:43:26,263
for the community.

757
00:43:26,298 --> 00:43:29,201
What's going to happen to the sea scouts?

758
00:43:29,201 --> 00:43:31,337
What's going to happen to the boat parade?

759
00:43:31,337 --> 00:43:35,674
What's going to happen to all those people that don't

760
00:43:35,674 --> 00:43:39,144
get to go through the adult sailing school?

761
00:43:39,144 --> 00:43:42,815
These are all things that you can't measure in dollars

762
00:43:42,815 --> 00:43:43,549
and cents.

763
00:43:43,549 --> 00:43:48,587
And I think if you really want to work for the good of

764
00:43:48,587 --> 00:43:52,570
the people, then you have to really examine this.

765
00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:58,570
How many years has that property going to be line

766
00:44:00,466 --> 00:44:01,300
follow?

767
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:03,369
There's no current plan.

768
00:44:03,369 --> 00:44:05,700
I believe 2016 was the last plan.

769
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:07,272
How is it going to be funded?

770
00:44:07,272 --> 00:44:13,212
None of this has been made available to me as a

771
00:44:13,212 --> 00:44:14,313
Gulfport resident.

772
00:44:14,313 --> 00:44:17,249
So I'm voicing my dissatisfaction.

773
00:44:17,249 --> 00:44:22,540
I feel betrayed as a citizen, and as a sailor.

774
00:44:22,540 --> 00:44:27,359
And I came to Gulfport because of sailing and the bcyc.

775
00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:28,293
Thank you.

776
00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:30,295
>> Thank you. Who's next?

777
00:44:30,295 --> 00:44:32,295
Yes.

778
00:44:42,641 --> 00:44:46,241
>> On another note, a lighter note.

779
00:44:47,146 --> 00:44:49,146
I'm Margaret delgetti.

780
00:44:55,654 --> 00:44:58,690
Carol and I recently coordinated the art in the yard

781
00:44:58,690 --> 00:45:02,270
thing that happened a week and a half or so ago.

782
00:45:02,270 --> 00:45:03,162
>> Just a second.

783
00:45:03,162 --> 00:45:04,730
Everybody, I appreciate it.

784
00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:07,900
If we applaud everything that happens, this is actually

785
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:10,200
very good that you're doing this.

786
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,372
But we usually try to keep the decorum in here.

787
00:45:13,372 --> 00:45:16,909
If we can cause the applause in general, and just let

788
00:45:16,909 --> 00:45:18,177
people make the comments.

789
00:45:18,177 --> 00:45:18,510
Thank you.

790
00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:20,145
>> I appreciate it.

791
00:45:20,145 --> 00:45:21,380
>> I hear you.

792
00:45:21,380 --> 00:45:23,380
Karen couldn't --

793
00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:29,510
>> Karen couldn't be here tonight.

794
00:45:31,857 --> 00:45:35,227
There were over 100 artists from Gulfport that

795
00:45:35,227 --> 00:45:35,661
participated.

796
00:45:35,661 --> 00:45:38,797
The feedback was that it was well received.

797
00:45:38,797 --> 00:45:41,400
My understanding is that the Gulfport businesses also

798
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,370
saw an increase in business that day after the hours of

799
00:45:45,370 --> 00:45:45,671
our event.

800
00:45:45,671 --> 00:45:49,341
One in particular that was a new business on the north

801
00:45:49,341 --> 00:45:53,345
side of town had her best day of sales ever, which I

802
00:45:53,345 --> 00:45:54,646
thought was really cool.

803
00:45:54,646 --> 00:45:57,382
The next one we've gotten the green light, November

804
00:45:57,382 --> 00:45:57,683
6th.

805
00:45:57,683 --> 00:45:58,684
So mark your calendars.

806
00:45:58,684 --> 00:46:04,490
And we have some plans in place that are going to help

807
00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:08,327
draw business to the brick and mortar businesses.

808
00:46:08,327 --> 00:46:09,828
Again, I appreciate your guys support.

809
00:46:09,828 --> 00:46:15,834
And I wanted to thank the city manager for helping this

810
00:46:15,834 --> 00:46:16,368
happen.

811
00:46:16,368 --> 00:46:20,439
Help with Internet stuff and getting this stuff in the

812
00:46:20,439 --> 00:46:21,673
gabber for us.

813
00:46:21,673 --> 00:46:25,430
A special thanks to April Thanos who made the ball

814
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:27,379
rolling for us and got this thing.

815
00:46:27,379 --> 00:46:30,649
She kinda helped pave the way for the initial stages.

816
00:46:30,649 --> 00:46:33,886
Thank you everyone for your support and the fact we get

817
00:46:33,886 --> 00:46:35,988
to have them twice a year now.

818
00:46:35,988 --> 00:46:37,189
>> Thank you.

819
00:46:37,189 --> 00:46:37,589
Who's next?

820
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:41,189
Yes, right here in the front.

821
00:46:44,363 --> 00:46:47,363
>> Hi, I live in Gulfport.

822
00:46:51,503 --> 00:46:57,376
Recently the city has been the recipient of a boatload

823
00:46:57,376 --> 00:46:59,144
of obnoxious letters.

824
00:46:59,144 --> 00:47:02,247
I've sent you all a letter.

825
00:47:02,247 --> 00:47:05,317
So I hope you get a chance to read it.

826
00:47:05,317 --> 00:47:10,689
The letters you've been receiving are notable for the

827
00:47:10,689 --> 00:47:14,860
repetitive use of profanity and personal invective.

828
00:47:14,860 --> 00:47:20,860
And they're yielding a climate of sort of subRosa or

829
00:47:23,702 --> 00:47:28,502
low level fear or unease in city hall.

830
00:47:30,776 --> 00:47:37,976
Recently I spoke to a psychiatrist, an m. D. Who is a

831
00:47:38,884 --> 00:47:43,840
mental health consultant to hostage negotiating team

832
00:47:43,622 --> 00:47:46,220
with the swat unit.

833
00:47:46,325 --> 00:47:49,361
That person told me disgruntled residents don't usually

834
00:47:49,361 --> 00:47:52,731
give their time and place of their city council

835
00:47:52,731 --> 00:47:53,131
attacks.

836
00:47:53,131 --> 00:47:57,936
They don't say I'm going to come over at 8 o'clock and

837
00:47:57,936 --> 00:47:59,104
blow things up.

838
00:47:59,104 --> 00:48:04,109
The council can't cross talk to me, but I wonder if our

839
00:48:04,109 --> 00:48:07,446
able city manager could address the safety issues

840
00:48:07,446 --> 00:48:11,617
because of the two examples of the shootings I gave

841
00:48:11,617 --> 00:48:12,170
you.

842
00:48:12,170 --> 00:48:16,321
The members of the communities were killed and injured

843
00:48:16,321 --> 00:48:16,788
also.

844
00:48:16,788 --> 00:48:20,225
So I wonder if you'd allow Mr.

845
00:48:20,225 --> 00:48:25,163
O'Reilly to briefly outline the measures the city can

846
00:48:25,163 --> 00:48:28,433
and cannot do at this juncture.

847
00:48:28,433 --> 00:48:31,503
>> When the public comments completed, I'll allow him

848
00:48:31,503 --> 00:48:34,906
to address whatever we wants to do in person, otherwise

849
00:48:34,906 --> 00:48:36,608
he'll get with you later.

850
00:48:36,608 --> 00:48:37,420
>> Thank you so very much.

851
00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:39,420
>> Thank you.

852
00:48:39,478 --> 00:48:41,478
Anyone. Yes.

853
00:48:55,927 --> 00:48:57,927
>> Good evening.

854
00:48:57,929 --> 00:49:02,134
Mary Henry, I live on 27th avenue south.

855
00:49:02,134 --> 00:49:06,171
I plan to cover several topics here in my 3 minutes.

856
00:49:06,171 --> 00:49:10,942
I'll send you detailed comments that won't fit in the

857
00:49:10,942 --> 00:49:12,377
allocated public time.

858
00:49:12,377 --> 00:49:17,149
After listening to the council meeting on March 16th, I

859
00:49:17,149 --> 00:49:19,840
was discouraged and disappointed.

860
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Christine Brown, while I frequently disagree with your

861
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,990
priorities and views on local, county, and national

862
00:49:24,990 --> 00:49:28,660
issues, I had the utmost respect for the time and

863
00:49:28,660 --> 00:49:31,997
effort you put in to local events and activities.

864
00:49:31,997 --> 00:49:35,734
So I was exceedingly disappointed to see you use the

865
00:49:35,734 --> 00:49:39,104
city council platform and city resources to attack a

866
00:49:39,104 --> 00:49:40,238
citizen of Gulfport.

867
00:49:40,238 --> 00:49:43,542
One who does not have the same access to the city

868
00:49:43,542 --> 00:49:45,377
platform to respond and defend themselves.

869
00:49:45,377 --> 00:49:48,947
All because they had the audacity to stand as a

870
00:49:48,947 --> 00:49:51,450
candidate against you in a recent election.

871
00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:54,553
Mayor Henderson, I was also very disappointed that you

872
00:49:54,553 --> 00:49:58,357
did not use your authority as chair of the meeting to

873
00:49:58,357 --> 00:50:01,793
cut off personal attacks and restore the dignity of the

874
00:50:01,793 --> 00:50:03,195
meeting and civil discussion.

875
00:50:03,195 --> 00:50:09,795
The next topic is bycy yacht club, but it's really the

876
00:50:10,102 --> 00:50:16,702
comments and reports at the end of the meeting when all

877
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,408
of a sudden without notice to anybody, the mayor

878
00:50:22,647 --> 00:50:28,647
terminated the least of bcyc it should have had a

879
00:50:28,954 --> 00:50:34,954
motion, a second, and a roll call vote before that

880
00:50:35,227 --> 00:50:35,861
happened.

881
00:50:35,861 --> 00:50:41,990
The third topic, which relates to bcyc is public tax

882
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:41,633
money.

883
00:50:41,633 --> 00:50:45,737
Money whether it's federal, state, county or city

884
00:50:45,737 --> 00:50:47,773
derives from the citizens.

885
00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:49,400
That is our money.

886
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,108
We pay tax.

887
00:50:50,108 --> 00:50:53,278
The money is pooled and then should be spent for the

888
00:50:53,278 --> 00:50:54,713
greater good of its citizens.

889
00:50:54,713 --> 00:50:58,383
Not everyone will agree with every expenditure, but the

890
00:50:58,383 --> 00:51:00,819
majority should agree with all expenditures.

891
00:51:00,819 --> 00:51:05,791
The moneys from the American recovery act are not a

892
00:51:05,791 --> 00:51:11,229
lotto winning for the city and city manager to spend on

893
00:51:11,229 --> 00:51:12,731
their wish items.

894
00:51:12,731 --> 00:51:18,670
They should be spent for the greater good for the

895
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:20,438
residents of Gulfport.

896
00:51:20,438 --> 00:51:24,242
I have a whole list of suggestions on how to spend $5

897
00:51:24,242 --> 00:51:26,478
million to benefit the citizens of Gulfport.

898
00:51:26,478 --> 00:51:28,547
I'll send you a detailed list.

899
00:51:28,547 --> 00:51:31,149
But here's a short summary.

900
00:51:31,149 --> 00:51:34,953
Expand, add, improve senior center to support

901
00:51:34,953 --> 00:51:37,880
vulnerable citizens, and seniors.

902
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,288
Support affordable housing any way you choose.

903
00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:45,564
Give code enforcement more support so that they can

904
00:51:45,564 --> 00:51:46,431
enforce code.

905
00:51:46,431 --> 00:51:49,434
Pay the city employees a wage that means they can

906
00:51:49,434 --> 00:51:50,936
afford to live in Gulfport.

907
00:51:50,936 --> 00:51:51,436
Thank you.

908
00:51:51,436 --> 00:51:52,337
>> All right.

909
00:51:52,337 --> 00:51:52,838
Who's next?

910
00:51:52,838 --> 00:51:58,238
Yes, right here on the end in the front.

911
00:52:03,315 --> 00:52:08,115
>> My name is Joel hien, 6th avenue south.

912
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,391
Mayor, council members, I'm here tonight as a skipper

913
00:52:13,391 --> 00:52:14,860
of ship 5195.

914
00:52:14,860 --> 00:52:18,396
In previous conversations I have tried to -- successful

915
00:52:18,396 --> 00:52:22,834
due to both the city of Gulfport and the bcyc

916
00:52:22,834 --> 00:52:23,635
contributions.

917
00:52:23,635 --> 00:52:28,907
I want to be clear, if bcyc goes away, I will do

918
00:52:28,907 --> 00:52:32,878
everything in my power to keep ship 915 thriving.

919
00:52:32,878 --> 00:52:36,140
This type of program is more important today than ever

920
00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:36,948
in today's world.

921
00:52:36,948 --> 00:52:41,148
The youth need what we teach, entrepreneurship.

922
00:52:45,156 --> 00:52:47,158
I'm a full believer in this program.

923
00:52:47,158 --> 00:52:54,358
At this time we have close to one adult for every scout

924
00:52:54,399 --> 00:52:57,999
with 15 registered scouts and three cadets.

925
00:52:58,637 --> 00:53:03,875
Prior to covid, we had -- 15 adult leaders and only one

926
00:53:03,875 --> 00:53:06,611
was not a bcyc member.

927
00:53:06,611 --> 00:53:11,483
We were the largest ship in Florida and among the

928
00:53:11,483 --> 00:53:16,321
largest ships in the country, and hope to one again

929
00:53:16,321 --> 00:53:19,724
post-pandemic be one of those ships again.

930
00:53:19,724 --> 00:53:25,724
I don't know where we will recruit adult leaders if

931
00:53:26,164 --> 00:53:28,990
bcyc goes away.

932
00:53:28,990 --> 00:53:31,436
We had tried to start a ship in the 80s, you May not

933
00:53:31,436 --> 00:53:31,703
remember.

934
00:53:31,703 --> 00:53:35,573
But failed due to the lack of adult participation.

935
00:53:35,573 --> 00:53:39,773
Without enough adult leaders, ideas are highly

936
00:53:42,948 --> 00:53:43,982
curtailed.

937
00:53:43,982 --> 00:53:51,182
With your actions, you May have set bcyc on a course to

938
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:52,657
failure.

939
00:53:52,657 --> 00:53:55,930
Or to move to another location.

940
00:53:55,930 --> 00:54:01,499
In either case, it will be at the slow death of ship

941
00:54:01,499 --> 00:54:03,101
915 in Gulfport.

942
00:54:03,101 --> 00:54:07,672
In summary, ship 915 is successful due to both, city of

943
00:54:07,672 --> 00:54:11,810
Gulfport and bcyc. If you remove either one of these

944
00:54:11,810 --> 00:54:15,513
legs, the future of this ship is in peril.

945
00:54:15,513 --> 00:54:19,918
I urge you to allow bcyc to continue to use the current

946
00:54:19,918 --> 00:54:23,254
building until a new community center is built and

947
00:54:23,254 --> 00:54:24,723
ready to be occupied.

948
00:54:24,723 --> 00:54:28,526
My scouts have decided on their own that they wanted to

949
00:54:28,526 --> 00:54:30,261
come and address you tonight.

950
00:54:30,261 --> 00:54:34,320
So at this time, I'd like to invite them to have their

951
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,901
three minutes and come up and talk to you.

952
00:54:36,901 --> 00:54:36,935
Thank you.

953
00:54:36,935 --> 00:54:38,935
>> Here you go.

954
00:54:49,414 --> 00:54:51,414
>> Noah Shaw.

955
00:54:56,121 --> 00:54:57,455
Hello.

956
00:54:57,455 --> 00:54:59,455
I'm the yoman.

957
00:55:01,393 --> 00:55:06,793
Two blocks away is bcyc, the home of ship 915.

958
00:55:07,799 --> 00:55:14,399
The ship and the people in it have changed my life

959
00:55:15,807 --> 00:55:16,541
forever.

960
00:55:16,541 --> 00:55:20,779
Should it simply not have been there, I fear I might be

961
00:55:20,779 --> 00:55:22,213
a much different person.

962
00:55:22,213 --> 00:55:25,950
Sea scouts is a branch of boy scouts of America.

963
00:55:25,950 --> 00:55:30,722
Our ship and trip operates out of bcyc. Simply put, we

964
00:55:30,722 --> 00:55:33,758
need them to keep our ship running.

965
00:55:33,758 --> 00:55:42,670
They do so much more for us than we do for them, and we

966
00:55:42,670 --> 00:55:43,835
are very grateful.

967
00:55:43,835 --> 00:55:48,635
We offer sailing, kayaking, cpr training, and manual

968
00:55:48,973 --> 00:55:54,373
boating safety class required to own a vessel in

969
00:55:54,746 --> 00:55:55,380
Florida.

970
00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:57,916
These cruises, however,have not been happening recently

971
00:55:57,916 --> 00:56:01,152
due to covid. They've legitimately been some of the

972
00:56:01,152 --> 00:56:02,954
best experiences of my life.

973
00:56:02,954 --> 00:56:06,191
You pack your belongings on to a sailboat, then spend

974
00:56:06,191 --> 00:56:08,793
two weeks on the water navigating, cooking, and

975
00:56:08,793 --> 00:56:10,428
steering all with close friends.

976
00:56:10,428 --> 00:56:15,266
Both the sunsets and the stars are amazing 50 or so

977
00:56:15,266 --> 00:56:16,568
miles from land.

978
00:56:16,568 --> 00:56:19,604
The best part is you can pay for it yourself.

979
00:56:19,604 --> 00:56:23,174
On Sundays, we clean and fix the boats for $6 an hour.

980
00:56:23,174 --> 00:56:25,577
And sometimes a new skill.

981
00:56:25,577 --> 00:56:29,581
Granted you're an active member, you can usually pay

982
00:56:29,581 --> 00:56:31,816
for the entry fee yourselves.

983
00:56:31,816 --> 00:56:37,216
Sea scouts is a great resource for the youth.

984
00:56:37,555 --> 00:56:40,759
Not only to youth in Gulfport, but also to Gulfport

985
00:56:40,759 --> 00:56:41,920
itself.

986
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,492
In 2019, as part of a statewide initiative, if my

987
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:53,300
calculations are correct -- should have filtered

988
00:56:53,938 --> 00:56:56,938
11,223,750 gallons of water by now.

989
00:56:59,744 --> 00:57:04,544
A more recent project happened in 2020, when scouts

990
00:57:05,116 --> 00:57:09,316
helped Gulfport glue down "no dumping" sign.

991
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,959
Every summer we teach elementary kids how to sail at

992
00:57:14,959 --> 00:57:20,598
bcyc. This is a plea for mercy from the heart.

993
00:57:20,598 --> 00:57:23,468
Please keep bcyc two blocks from my house.

994
00:57:23,468 --> 00:57:28,907
I would also like to say my name is Amelia shaw, Noah

995
00:57:28,907 --> 00:57:33,912
shaw is my -- sea scouts has been the best friend group

996
00:57:33,912 --> 00:57:38,416
I've had in my entire life and most important.

997
00:57:38,416 --> 00:57:39,784
Thank you for your time.

998
00:57:39,784 --> 00:57:40,418
>> Thank you.

999
00:57:40,418 --> 00:57:46,418
Is there someone else from sea scouts in this group?

1000
00:57:48,726 --> 00:57:49,661
Yes.

1001
00:57:49,661 --> 00:57:54,461
Was there another scout that wanted to speak?

1002
00:58:03,208 --> 00:58:06,744
>> Hello, my name is Elizabeth Sullivan.

1003
00:58:06,744 --> 00:58:10,882
I have been a sea scout for three years.

1004
00:58:10,882 --> 00:58:12,383
My rank is apprentice.

1005
00:58:12,383 --> 00:58:18,383
I have sailed to the keys, scuba dived, trained and

1006
00:58:18,523 --> 00:58:23,923
competed with my bcyc mentors in various ragattas, and

1007
00:58:24,620 --> 00:58:25,897
much, much more.

1008
00:58:25,897 --> 00:58:30,697
While independent than one another paper, in reality

1009
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:35,270
are a true synergy.

1010
00:58:36,374 --> 00:58:39,811
Yacht club members have become friends and mentors to

1011
00:58:39,811 --> 00:58:44,382
all of our sea scouts. Once our parents drop us off at

1012
00:58:44,382 --> 00:58:47,452
bcyc, they know we're secure at the gates.

1013
00:58:47,452 --> 00:58:51,422
This is something of a safe space for us sea scouts as

1014
00:58:51,422 --> 00:58:51,756
teenagers.

1015
00:58:51,756 --> 00:58:55,293
We often sway and gather by the big tree next to the

1016
00:58:55,293 --> 00:58:57,629
clubhouse to discuss our activities for the day.

1017
00:58:57,629 --> 00:59:03,629
Mia, the somewhat adopted cat that roems the area has

1018
00:59:04,102 --> 00:59:07,102
been part of our family.

1019
00:59:07,305 --> 00:59:10,909
Sea scouts know we are safe around friends and feel

1020
00:59:10,909 --> 00:59:11,242
supported.

1021
00:59:11,242 --> 00:59:18,442
So take this away from us sea scouts, it would be a

1022
00:59:19,417 --> 00:59:23,170
detriment to us and our family.

1023
00:59:23,521 --> 00:59:28,921
Only with the support of the caring, concerned sponsor

1024
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:37,599
like bcy club. --

1025
00:59:39,470 --> 00:59:39,604
thank you for your time.

1026
00:59:39,604 --> 00:59:41,604
>> Thank you.

1027
00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:48,340
Anyone else from sea scouts that wants to speak before

1028
00:59:51,683 --> 00:59:54,683
we move to someone else?

1029
00:59:56,354 --> 00:59:57,210
No.

1030
00:59:57,210 --> 00:59:58,222
Okay.

1031
00:59:58,222 --> 01:00:00,725
Sir, you had your hand up.

1032
01:00:00,725 --> 01:00:03,995
>> These kids, they are our future.

1033
01:00:03,995 --> 01:00:06,397
These kids are our legacy.

1034
01:00:06,397 --> 01:00:12,997
So with that, I do want to say council members, Mr.

1035
01:00:14,505 --> 01:00:16,505
Mayor, good evening.

1036
01:00:16,641 --> 01:00:19,641
My name is Frank DaMico.

1037
01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:23,548
I live Gulfport, Florida.

1038
01:00:23,548 --> 01:00:28,948
I'm a bcyc member, sail school volunteer, sea scout

1039
01:00:30,188 --> 01:00:36,788
advisor, and a board member of bcyc. My husband and I

1040
01:00:38,296 --> 01:00:42,496
are both Gulfport residents, homeowners, taxpayers, and

1041
01:00:43,468 --> 01:00:44,202
voters.

1042
01:00:44,202 --> 01:00:49,607
And we are very unhappy with our elected city officials

1043
01:00:49,607 --> 01:00:50,708
right now.

1044
01:00:50,708 --> 01:00:55,413
If you consider nothing else tonight, consider that.

1045
01:00:55,413 --> 01:01:01,185
We like many residents here are taxpayers and we vote.

1046
01:01:01,185 --> 01:01:06,724
This is what bcyc means to me, which in turn extends to

1047
01:01:06,724 --> 01:01:10,395
how I feel towards the community in general.

1048
01:01:10,395 --> 01:01:16,267
It's been a lot on social media about the fact that the

1049
01:01:16,267 --> 01:01:20,171
club doesn't belong in Gulfport because it's elitist,

1050
01:01:20,171 --> 01:01:22,106
exclusive, and even racist.

1051
01:01:22,106 --> 01:01:24,942
I'd like to set the record straight.

1052
01:01:24,942 --> 01:01:27,278
The pun is intended.

1053
01:01:27,278 --> 01:01:31,315
In case you didn't get the reference, when I mentioned

1054
01:01:31,315 --> 01:01:34,552
my husband earlier, we are a gay couple.

1055
01:01:34,552 --> 01:01:40,910
He is an Asian Pacific islander. We were both welcomed

1056
01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:43,995
into the club, and the Gulfport community.

1057
01:01:43,995 --> 01:01:47,595
The same way with open arms.

1058
01:01:47,665 --> 01:01:49,867
Does that sound exclusive?

1059
01:01:49,867 --> 01:01:54,667
Bcyc is in fact the embodiment of inclusivity.

1060
01:01:57,141 --> 01:02:01,846
We both work 40 hours a week and have moderate needs.

1061
01:02:01,846 --> 01:02:04,246
Does that sound elitist?

1062
01:02:04,649 --> 01:02:07,218
Club dues are $145 a quarter.

1063
01:02:07,218 --> 01:02:11,418
More than some people's monthly bar bill.

1064
01:02:11,956 --> 01:02:14,956
Again, does that sound elitist?

1065
01:02:15,226 --> 01:02:19,330
Others will speak extensively on what the community

1066
01:02:19,330 --> 01:02:23,468
will lose, free sailing for -- operation santa, the

1067
01:02:23,468 --> 01:02:27,605
Christmas boat parade, fun days, my personal favorite

1068
01:02:27,605 --> 01:02:32,743
because it introduced me to Gulfport and to the yacht

1069
01:02:32,743 --> 01:02:33,611
club.

1070
01:02:33,611 --> 01:02:37,715
Money spent by our members over the years at local

1071
01:02:37,715 --> 01:02:38,116
businesses.

1072
01:02:38,116 --> 01:02:41,319
Have contributed many other ways to the community.

1073
01:02:41,319 --> 01:02:46,858
And I say community because the city is you. You're the

1074
01:02:46,858 --> 01:02:47,358
city.

1075
01:02:47,358 --> 01:02:49,660
This -- this is the community.

1076
01:02:49,660 --> 01:02:51,796
This is the community.

1077
01:02:51,796 --> 01:02:54,796
You should be protecting that.

1078
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:59,303
The city is financially vulnerable right now, and what

1079
01:02:59,303 --> 01:03:01,572
do the elected officials do?

1080
01:03:01,572 --> 01:03:05,176
With money that they're going to receive from the

1081
01:03:05,176 --> 01:03:05,977
federal government?

1082
01:03:05,977 --> 01:03:07,311
>> Thank you, sir, I appreciate it.

1083
01:03:07,311 --> 01:03:09,914
>> I think you know the rest.

1084
01:03:09,914 --> 01:03:14,252
So I do want to say thank you and regardless how things

1085
01:03:14,252 --> 01:03:18,623
turn out, we will do what sailors do, we'll plot a new

1086
01:03:18,623 --> 01:03:18,990
course.

1087
01:03:18,990 --> 01:03:19,690
>> Thanks.

1088
01:03:19,690 --> 01:03:22,193
>> And we'll follow the wind.

1089
01:03:22,193 --> 01:03:24,593
>> Who's next? Yes, sir.

1090
01:03:32,570 --> 01:03:35,570
>> Good evening, mayor, council members.

1091
01:03:36,107 --> 01:03:38,976
My name is Howard Bush.

1092
01:03:38,976 --> 01:03:41,479
I want to say thank you, sea scouts.

1093
01:03:41,479 --> 01:03:46,879
Also the vice commander of the United States coast

1094
01:03:47,180 --> 01:03:50,180
guard auxiliary here in Gulfport.

1095
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:52,857
And vice President Of the local alliance club.

1096
01:03:52,857 --> 01:03:57,940
This concerns more than just the yacht club, it

1097
01:03:57,940 --> 01:03:58,496
concerns us all.

1098
01:03:58,496 --> 01:04:03,568
It concerns the lions club, who has been there since

1099
01:04:03,568 --> 01:04:04,680
1967.

1100
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,306
Lions club building was built by the lions club members

1101
01:04:08,306 --> 01:04:09,540
of this community.

1102
01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:13,740
We have supported organizations in Gulfport since 1948.

1103
01:04:14,545 --> 01:04:20,218
Also, we have a Gulfport yacht club right next to us.

1104
01:04:20,218 --> 01:04:25,618
That also affects as others have said, the entire

1105
01:04:27,191 --> 01:04:27,959
community.

1106
01:04:27,959 --> 01:04:30,962
We do more than just pancake breakfast.

1107
01:04:30,962 --> 01:04:35,499
If you've ever heard of Helen Keller, in 1927, she

1108
01:04:35,499 --> 01:04:40,938
asked the lions club to step up to the plate to take

1109
01:04:40,938 --> 01:04:44,542
care of any preventable blindness in the world.

1110
01:04:44,542 --> 01:04:46,542
And they have.

1111
01:04:46,611 --> 01:04:49,647
More than just blindness, hurricane Dorian in the

1112
01:04:49,647 --> 01:04:52,650
Bahamas, within weeks, $100,000 was sent in relief

1113
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:54,919
funds to the people in Bahamas.

1114
01:04:54,919 --> 01:04:58,519
And that was just a start.

1115
01:04:59,523 --> 01:05:03,761
The Gulfport has been around -- the lion club has been

1116
01:05:03,761 --> 01:05:05,229
around since 1967.

1117
01:05:05,229 --> 01:05:09,166
Members of the Gulfport lions club, we're at 4630

1118
01:05:09,166 --> 01:05:10,468
tiffton drive south.

1119
01:05:10,468 --> 01:05:15,106
Since its beginning, the lions club has raised

1120
01:05:15,106 --> 01:05:19,143
thousands of dollars for site conservation, diabetes

1121
01:05:19,143 --> 01:05:21,445
awareness, environmental improvement, eliminating

1122
01:05:21,445 --> 01:05:25,483
hunger, childhood cancer, disaster relief, and other

1123
01:05:25,483 --> 01:05:27,218
challenges facing mankind.

1124
01:05:27,218 --> 01:05:31,188
Recently, we have been recognized as a Florida

1125
01:05:31,188 --> 01:05:36,588
foundation as a 501 c 3 which will also improve many

1126
01:05:36,661 --> 01:05:39,163
things to help this community.

1127
01:05:39,163 --> 01:05:43,567
In addition, like many others, the police program for

1128
01:05:43,567 --> 01:05:47,471
the santa benefit, Gulfport senior centers food pantry,

1129
01:05:47,471 --> 01:05:51,842
youth sports, we support the youth sports and the

1130
01:05:51,842 --> 01:05:55,279
baseball teams here in town as well.

1131
01:05:55,279 --> 01:05:59,250
Another new one is feeding Tampa Bay, and lighthouse of

1132
01:05:59,250 --> 01:06:03,621
penelas. If you've never heard of it, they take care of

1133
01:06:03,621 --> 01:06:07,958
the people that are going blind or deaf, teach them out

1134
01:06:07,958 --> 01:06:09,960
to gain in this society.

1135
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,300
They teach the parents about their children that are

1136
01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:14,398
going deaf and blind.

1137
01:06:14,398 --> 01:06:16,667
The lions club started that organization in 1956.

1138
01:06:16,667 --> 01:06:17,501
Thank you again.

1139
01:06:17,501 --> 01:06:19,501
>> Thank you.

1140
01:06:21,305 --> 01:06:22,707
Who's next for open public comment?

1141
01:06:22,707 --> 01:06:24,707
Yes.

1142
01:06:41,392 --> 01:06:43,392
>> Karen Schwartz.

1143
01:06:47,131 --> 01:06:51,836
I did not attend the last city council meeting, no

1144
01:06:51,836 --> 01:06:52,303
excuses.

1145
01:06:52,303 --> 01:06:58,303
Just to say I had the displeasure of watching the

1146
01:06:59,577 --> 01:07:01,977
fireworks the next day.

1147
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,783
Christine Brown -- mudslinging conspiracy theory had no

1148
01:07:05,783 --> 01:07:09,383
place during a city council meeting.

1149
01:07:09,487 --> 01:07:13,791
Because of your lies, a man who might have been a

1150
01:07:13,791 --> 01:07:17,294
leader in our effort to address climate change and

1151
01:07:17,294 --> 01:07:20,431
build a more sustainable infrastructure in Gulfport is

1152
01:07:20,431 --> 01:07:24,335
now so disgusted with our city, he's even stepped down

1153
01:07:24,335 --> 01:07:27,438
from our sustainability committee, which is a real

1154
01:07:27,438 --> 01:07:31,375
shame because he was the driving force behind the rain

1155
01:07:31,375 --> 01:07:34,111
garden now blossoming near the rec center.

1156
01:07:34,111 --> 01:07:36,213
Mayor Henderson, what were you thinking?

1157
01:07:36,213 --> 01:07:41,130
As our mayor, you are responsible for maintaining

1158
01:07:42,586 --> 01:07:44,986
civility during council meetings.

1159
01:07:45,790 --> 01:07:46,900
Letting Ms.

1160
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:52,900
Brown air her grievances, none -- makes me wonder about

1161
01:07:53,130 --> 01:07:56,730
the integrity of our elected leaders.

1162
01:07:57,935 --> 01:08:02,473
Furthermore, everyone on council, why so opposed to

1163
01:08:02,473 --> 01:08:04,175
some new blood?

1164
01:08:04,175 --> 01:08:09,346
I remember when Dan linkey was running, he was so proud

1165
01:08:09,346 --> 01:08:14,485
of the fact of the lack of drama among council members.

1166
01:08:14,485 --> 01:08:18,222
Which I understand now means council prefers to put up

1167
01:08:18,222 --> 01:08:21,592
a united front against new ideas rather than actually

1168
01:08:21,592 --> 01:08:23,460
discuss different points of view.

1169
01:08:23,460 --> 01:08:28,399
It's a wonder that anyone would want to seek office in

1170
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:28,833
Gulfport.

1171
01:08:28,833 --> 01:08:32,670
Disagreements and even lively arguments about ideas and

1172
01:08:32,670 --> 01:08:34,572
concepts are not drama.

1173
01:08:34,572 --> 01:08:35,206
They are democracy in action.

1174
01:08:35,206 --> 01:08:37,206
Thank you.

1175
01:08:37,241 --> 01:08:39,641
>> Thank you. Who's next?

1176
01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:44,780
Show of hands.

1177
01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:48,820
Anyone else for open public?

1178
01:08:57,795 --> 01:08:59,795
>> Welcome.

1179
01:09:00,364 --> 01:09:02,364
Good evening, council.

1180
01:09:02,967 --> 01:09:06,537
Hi, my name is Jason Sanchez.

1181
01:09:06,537 --> 01:09:10,908
I'm a current commodore of Gulfport yacht club.

1182
01:09:10,908 --> 01:09:13,210
I'm here on behalf of our club and members.

1183
01:09:13,210 --> 01:09:16,614
We have about eight members here tonight.

1184
01:09:16,614 --> 01:09:20,417
We were recently made privy to a new site plan that was

1185
01:09:20,417 --> 01:09:21,510
being proposed.

1186
01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:24,421
Obviously I've learned quite a bit about this and quite

1187
01:09:24,421 --> 01:09:26,790
a bit about the yacht club tonight.

1188
01:09:26,790 --> 01:09:30,461
Unfortunately, this came across as quite alarming as we

1189
01:09:30,461 --> 01:09:32,129
had not seen this.

1190
01:09:32,129 --> 01:09:38,129
Moreover, similar to bcyc, we are not included in this

1191
01:09:39,336 --> 01:09:41,336
new site plan.

1192
01:09:41,505 --> 01:09:45,109
I am among many of our members and our members of the

1193
01:09:45,109 --> 01:09:46,310
community have many questions.

1194
01:09:46,310 --> 01:09:49,613
I know you can't answer a lot of these questions

1195
01:09:49,613 --> 01:09:52,917
tonight, but our club has been part of the community

1196
01:09:52,917 --> 01:09:53,584
since 1938.

1197
01:09:53,584 --> 01:09:56,987
And has been a staple in the community.

1198
01:09:56,987 --> 01:10:02,192
A good partner to the city and it's been a

1199
01:10:02,192 --> 01:10:05,829
multi-generational, social and sailing club since its

1200
01:10:05,829 --> 01:10:06,363
inception.

1201
01:10:06,363 --> 01:10:10,601
Even to the fact that my own family members helped

1202
01:10:10,601 --> 01:10:14,872
build the new club when it transferred from plant bayou

1203
01:10:14,872 --> 01:10:16,573
to its current location.

1204
01:10:16,573 --> 01:10:19,310
I stand with you tonight with concern and unanswered

1205
01:10:19,310 --> 01:10:19,610
questions.

1206
01:10:19,610 --> 01:10:22,680
I understand that you cannot rebut at this time.

1207
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:27,418
However, I am hopeful there is a place for us in this

1208
01:10:27,418 --> 01:10:28,585
proposed marina plan.

1209
01:10:28,585 --> 01:10:32,220
I'm hopeful that Gulfport yacht club's existence is

1210
01:10:32,220 --> 01:10:34,158
addressed later in this hearing.

1211
01:10:34,158 --> 01:10:35,960
I don't have anything else.

1212
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,640
You know, I support a lot of the yacht club tonight.

1213
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,400
I did not know that they were being evicted.

1214
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,737
And I hope we're not on the chopping block next.

1215
01:10:46,737 --> 01:10:47,571
>> Thanks.

1216
01:10:47,571 --> 01:10:48,372
>> Thank you.

1217
01:10:48,372 --> 01:10:52,572
>> Anyone else for open public comment? Yes.

1218
01:11:04,455 --> 01:11:05,723
>> Good evening, everyone.

1219
01:11:05,723 --> 01:11:10,628
I don't live in Gulfport but I am the vice President

1220
01:11:10,628 --> 01:11:14,164
And the conservation advocate for clear water Audubon

1221
01:11:14,164 --> 01:11:14,631
society.

1222
01:11:14,631 --> 01:11:19,269
I'm here to talk about the cleaning stations up at

1223
01:11:19,269 --> 01:11:20,204
Gulfport marina.

1224
01:11:20,204 --> 01:11:24,975
They have been a problem for birds for a very long

1225
01:11:24,975 --> 01:11:25,409
time.

1226
01:11:25,409 --> 01:11:31,409
Just in case you all didn't know, it's against Florida

1227
01:11:32,549 --> 01:11:36,749
administrative code to feed pelicans carcasses or

1228
01:11:37,521 --> 01:11:42,921
fishes that have exposed bones and spines because it

1229
01:11:43,927 --> 01:11:48,127
punctures their -- it can cause --

1230
01:11:48,799 --> 01:11:51,101
>> Whoever that is, silence their phone during public

1231
01:11:51,101 --> 01:11:53,137
comment and for the rest of the meeting.

1232
01:11:53,137 --> 01:11:53,704
Thank you.

1233
01:11:53,704 --> 01:11:55,704
>> What was that?

1234
01:11:55,806 --> 01:11:56,306
Okay.

1235
01:11:56,306 --> 01:12:01,245
Anyway, I know for a fact that the cleaning station has

1236
01:12:01,245 --> 01:12:05,282
caused the death and injury of many, many pelicans

1237
01:12:05,282 --> 01:12:10,621
because I know somebody who lives close by and she is a

1238
01:12:10,621 --> 01:12:14,658
very good advocate and checks the pelicans every time,

1239
01:12:14,658 --> 01:12:15,559
almost daily.

1240
01:12:15,559 --> 01:12:20,297
Even from the Brown pelican species action plan, they

1241
01:12:20,297 --> 01:12:24,100
say through targeted outreach they recommend protecting

1242
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:27,671
pelicans from injury and mortality related to

1243
01:12:27,671 --> 01:12:28,739
intentional feeding.

1244
01:12:28,739 --> 01:12:33,310
There's actually a placard and a sign that the fwc has

1245
01:12:33,310 --> 01:12:36,647
made stating that it is against Florida administrative

1246
01:12:36,647 --> 01:12:38,749
code to feed the pelicans.

1247
01:12:38,749 --> 01:12:43,320
We have a lot of pathens that come into the Gulfport

1248
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:43,754
arena.

1249
01:12:43,754 --> 01:12:46,523
They have a lot of tourists and people who think it's

1250
01:12:46,523 --> 01:12:48,292
cool and cute to feed the pelicans.

1251
01:12:48,292 --> 01:12:50,270
And they want to take pictures.

1252
01:12:50,270 --> 01:12:53,697
But it's not cute at all when you rescue them and

1253
01:12:53,697 --> 01:12:54,364
they're dying.

1254
01:12:54,364 --> 01:12:58,569
And they have an infection and they smell like death

1255
01:12:58,569 --> 01:13:02,372
because the infection is eating away at their gastro

1256
01:13:02,372 --> 01:13:04,475
intentional tract and they're dying.

1257
01:13:04,475 --> 01:13:05,375
That's not cute.

1258
01:13:05,375 --> 01:13:08,512
And it's against the law to feed these birds.

1259
01:13:08,512 --> 01:13:11,815
I think the station needs to be removed completely.

1260
01:13:11,815 --> 01:13:17,521
If you insist on having a cleaning station there, you

1261
01:13:17,521 --> 01:13:22,626
need to provide lidded trash cans and enforce it.

1262
01:13:22,626 --> 01:13:29,226
I don't care how many signs you have, they're not going

1263
01:13:30,267 --> 01:13:33,867
to stop feeding the pelicans. --

1264
01:13:34,671 --> 01:13:38,271
feeding pelicans is prohibited by law.

1265
01:13:41,912 --> 01:13:45,716
So I think in the spirit of being environmentally

1266
01:13:45,716 --> 01:13:48,652
friendly and protecting the Brown pelican, which

1267
01:13:48,652 --> 01:13:53,290
afterall is the mascot of the city of St. Petersburg, I

1268
01:13:53,290 --> 01:13:57,600
realize this is Gulfport, but it's the sister city.

1269
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,198
Let's keep our pelicans safe, and stop the feeding of

1270
01:14:01,198 --> 01:14:01,632
them.

1271
01:14:01,632 --> 01:14:02,833
>> Thank you very much.

1272
01:14:02,833 --> 01:14:04,401
>> Thank you.

1273
01:14:04,401 --> 01:14:05,836
>> Much appreciated.

1274
01:14:05,836 --> 01:14:08,505
Does anyone else have open public comment?

1275
01:14:08,505 --> 01:14:09,640
>> There's one.

1276
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,640
>> Yes.

1277
01:14:33,931 --> 01:14:37,968
>> Good evening, my name is Frank McKinney.

1278
01:14:37,968 --> 01:14:40,404
My son has a residence --

1279
01:14:40,404 --> 01:14:42,105
>> Can you pull the microphone up.

1280
01:14:42,105 --> 01:14:43,774
>> Yes, sorry.

1281
01:14:43,774 --> 01:14:45,909
My name is Frank McKinney.

1282
01:14:45,909 --> 01:14:49,980
My son has a residence on 51st street south in

1283
01:14:49,980 --> 01:14:50,414
Gulfport.

1284
01:14:50,414 --> 01:14:54,251
I have been for 50 years a fervent support of Gulfport.

1285
01:14:54,251 --> 01:14:56,920
I just love the town.

1286
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:02,920
There's an old saying about be careful what you wish

1287
01:15:03,961 --> 01:15:04,661
for.

1288
01:15:04,661 --> 01:15:06,897
I'd like to add to it.

1289
01:15:06,897 --> 01:15:12,769
Is be careful that you can afford and bring about what

1290
01:15:12,769 --> 01:15:14,371
you wish for.

1291
01:15:14,371 --> 01:15:18,750
I was a member of a team in St.

1292
01:15:18,750 --> 01:15:24,750
Petersburg on the other side of bayou -- flying the

1293
01:15:24,982 --> 01:15:30,382
plane for skyway marina district very active for years.

1294
01:15:32,889 --> 01:15:36,489
It began as a volunteer operation.

1295
01:15:37,527 --> 01:15:42,327
Then the city -- we defined a plan.

1296
01:15:43,967 --> 01:15:46,670
Meetings after meetings of what do you want?

1297
01:15:46,670 --> 01:15:49,273
What do we need to have down here?

1298
01:15:49,273 --> 01:15:54,177
Our focus was primarily on shops, places to live,

1299
01:15:54,177 --> 01:15:58,515
places to dine, and opportunities for employment for

1300
01:15:58,515 --> 01:16:03,420
people who now live in midtown of St. Petersburg.

1301
01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:09,420
We want something more than clerks and bus boys. --

1302
01:16:15,732 --> 01:16:17,868
it was all wrapped up.

1303
01:16:17,868 --> 01:16:20,868
The mayor was behind it.

1304
01:16:23,573 --> 01:16:26,443
Gave an offer to the first restaurant that would open

1305
01:16:26,443 --> 01:16:28,445
and you can go and dine in.

1306
01:16:28,445 --> 01:16:31,581
I thought wow, this is great.

1307
01:16:31,581 --> 01:16:34,581
Then the implementation began. --

1308
01:16:38,422 --> 01:16:43,222
no resemblance whatsoever to what we planned. Nothing.

1309
01:16:47,931 --> 01:16:53,931
We have a large cement buildings which is pretty much

1310
01:17:01,645 --> 01:17:03,645
like CzechSlovakia.

1311
01:17:04,381 --> 01:17:09,586
We have no restaurant aside from the preexisting fish

1312
01:17:09,586 --> 01:17:15,926
house, our dock house, which is not nearly as good as

1313
01:17:15,926 --> 01:17:16,526
o'maddy's.

1314
01:17:16,526 --> 01:17:19,463
We have a new wawa gas station.

1315
01:17:19,463 --> 01:17:21,463
That's it.

1316
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:28,872
Mayor still hasn't been down because there's still no

1317
01:17:28,872 --> 01:17:30,474
place for the mayor to eat.

1318
01:17:30,474 --> 01:17:31,975
We didn't get what we wanted.

1319
01:17:31,975 --> 01:17:35,612
We didn't insist on there being a way of implementation

1320
01:17:35,612 --> 01:17:36,713
for this plan.

1321
01:17:36,713 --> 01:17:39,716
When it happened, they said, okay, now, now everybody

1322
01:17:39,716 --> 01:17:40,684
can do everything.

1323
01:17:40,684 --> 01:17:43,553
We promoted people moving in there.

1324
01:17:43,553 --> 01:17:44,321
What happened?

1325
01:17:44,321 --> 01:17:46,321
Businesses moving in.

1326
01:17:47,924 --> 01:17:52,195
What happened is they were enthused about it.

1327
01:17:52,195 --> 01:17:58,795
But didn't think that we were a place that they wanted

1328
01:17:58,969 --> 01:18:00,170
to be.

1329
01:18:00,170 --> 01:18:04,708
So that development really only on what the zoning laws

1330
01:18:04,708 --> 01:18:05,609
would allow.

1331
01:18:05,609 --> 01:18:09,513
If you just rely on the zoning laws and the mercy of

1332
01:18:09,513 --> 01:18:12,449
developers, you're going to end up with the wrong

1333
01:18:12,449 --> 01:18:12,749
thing.

1334
01:18:12,749 --> 01:18:15,152
Now's the time to map out exactly what you're going to

1335
01:18:15,152 --> 01:18:16,920
get when you go forward with your plan.

1336
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,123
I don't know whether you're going to go forward or not.

1337
01:18:20,123 --> 01:18:23,860
But if you do, for gosh sakes, make sure you know what

1338
01:18:23,860 --> 01:18:24,494
you're doing.

1339
01:18:24,494 --> 01:18:26,196
Make sure you know where the money is coming.

1340
01:18:26,196 --> 01:18:27,597
>> Thank you, sir.

1341
01:18:27,597 --> 01:18:28,598
Thank you very much.

1342
01:18:28,598 --> 01:18:29,599
>> Thank you.

1343
01:18:29,599 --> 01:18:33,799
>> Anyone else for open public comment? Yes.

1344
01:18:41,511 --> 01:18:43,911
>> David Falwell, 29th avenue.

1345
01:18:45,649 --> 01:18:50,987
I'm just hoping that somebody in our city or all of

1346
01:18:50,987 --> 01:18:55,392
you, at least, are very involved with the Florida

1347
01:18:55,392 --> 01:18:56,827
league of cities.

1348
01:18:56,827 --> 01:19:00,931
In Tallahassee they're more than half way through their

1349
01:19:00,931 --> 01:19:04,534
session this year and there are countless preemptive

1350
01:19:04,534 --> 01:19:05,902
bills coming forward.

1351
01:19:05,902 --> 01:19:09,502
I didn't bring the whole list.

1352
01:19:13,443 --> 01:19:18,843
Bill 856 is going to prevent cities and counties from

1353
01:19:20,283 --> 01:19:23,883
employing any alternative efforts for energy.

1354
01:19:24,387 --> 01:19:29,292
So if you want to have our city buildings with solar

1355
01:19:29,292 --> 01:19:32,829
power, you wouldn't be able to do that.

1356
01:19:32,829 --> 01:19:36,433
If you want our fleet of vehicles to be battery

1357
01:19:36,433 --> 01:19:38,935
operated, Tallahassee would have a say first.

1358
01:19:38,935 --> 01:19:43,640
There's also bills that prevent our planning committee

1359
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:48,945
that's been working on beach boulevard and shore, it

1360
01:19:48,945 --> 01:19:53,650
would preempt any of that, unless you complete

1361
01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:57,754
construction by July 14th of this year.

1362
01:19:57,754 --> 01:20:02,792
Please, please be aware of all these preemptive bills.

1363
01:20:02,792 --> 01:20:05,762
And maybe someone from stetsson could help us work on

1364
01:20:05,762 --> 01:20:06,363
these things.

1365
01:20:06,363 --> 01:20:09,363
Thank you. >> Thank you. Yes.

1366
01:20:17,574 --> 01:20:21,845
>> Hello, I'm Bret Daniel, a veteran who's got

1367
01:20:21,845 --> 01:20:22,312
disability.

1368
01:20:22,312 --> 01:20:27,684
And I taught 10 years at pinelas County as a public

1369
01:20:27,684 --> 01:20:28,652
education teacher.

1370
01:20:28,652 --> 01:20:33,890
And what I'm most concerned about is the -- if we bring

1371
01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:37,527
this place to a more public setting and we allow more

1372
01:20:37,527 --> 01:20:41,164
people to experience at the income levels that allows

1373
01:20:41,164 --> 01:20:45,402
more people in, I think you have a greater diversity.

1374
01:20:45,402 --> 01:20:47,437
So I'm concerned about the diversity of this.

1375
01:20:47,437 --> 01:20:54,637
And if you've ever had a wish and you take a little

1376
01:20:58,381 --> 01:21:01,381
tour out there at Boca.

1377
01:21:02,919 --> 01:21:05,155
Help everybody as best we can.

1378
01:21:05,155 --> 01:21:09,426
Maybe pulling these boats out, fixing them and saying

1379
01:21:09,426 --> 01:21:14,631
you know, get them back in the water and get people

1380
01:21:14,631 --> 01:21:17,000
happier because they have wishes.

1381
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,470
So as many people with vessels out there their wishes

1382
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:21,504
have gone astray.

1383
01:21:21,504 --> 01:21:23,740
22 years in the military.

1384
01:21:23,740 --> 01:21:26,876
Three tours in the Persian Gulf says I support the

1385
01:21:26,876 --> 01:21:28,778
public domain not the private domain.

1386
01:21:28,778 --> 01:21:31,982
I apologize because I have a disability.

1387
01:21:31,982 --> 01:21:37,530
And fighting a private disability is much easy to fight

1388
01:21:37,530 --> 01:21:39,890
in a public setting.

1389
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:44,940
The second thing is we should all be happy it's

1390
01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:48,980
becoming spring and the birds are out here.

1391
01:21:48,980 --> 01:21:50,600
We are a tree community.

1392
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:55,405
We must think of ourselves as a small domain to help

1393
01:21:55,405 --> 01:21:56,706
impact the birds.

1394
01:21:56,706 --> 01:21:59,776
And I'm sorry, my teeth are going to fall out.

1395
01:21:59,776 --> 01:22:04,514
But that's what I'd like you to look at as we're

1396
01:22:04,514 --> 01:22:07,117
becoming public and allowing everyone access.

1397
01:22:07,117 --> 01:22:09,386
And you have the accountability.

1398
01:22:09,386 --> 01:22:13,356
So somebody reports to you, you look at this and say

1399
01:22:13,356 --> 01:22:15,892
let's see the diversity in this group.

1400
01:22:15,892 --> 01:22:18,428
Let's see the financials to this group.

1401
01:22:18,428 --> 01:22:24,428
Let's make sure every child who wants to swim go

1402
01:22:26,436 --> 01:22:27,237
sailing.

1403
01:22:27,237 --> 01:22:31,141
I apologize, I'm more for staying in the public domain.

1404
01:22:31,141 --> 01:22:33,910
But don't trash the stuff and throw it away.

1405
01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:34,911
Look at how you can serve more people.

1406
01:22:34,911 --> 01:22:36,146
Thank you.

1407
01:22:36,146 --> 01:22:38,146
>> Thank you.

1408
01:22:41,351 --> 01:22:43,887
Anyone else for open public comment?

1409
01:22:43,887 --> 01:22:45,922
Am I missing any hands right now?

1410
01:22:45,922 --> 01:22:51,322
If I'm missing any hands, just stand up. Okay.

1411
01:23:01,671 --> 01:23:06,543
>> Hi, my name is Elizabeth Hendrix and I'm a Gulfport

1412
01:23:06,543 --> 01:23:08,778
resident residing in gulf shores.

1413
01:23:08,778 --> 01:23:13,550
I took the sailing course at bcyc in 2017.

1414
01:23:13,550 --> 01:23:17,387
And ten of my classmates and I joined the club.

1415
01:23:17,387 --> 01:23:21,691
Of those, five of us bought our own boats within a year

1416
01:23:21,691 --> 01:23:22,425
of joining.

1417
01:23:22,425 --> 01:23:28,425
I have a sailboat and it's in the bcyc basin.

1418
01:23:30,567 --> 01:23:33,103
And I've loved racing monthly.

1419
01:23:33,103 --> 01:23:35,338
We have a cruising program.

1420
01:23:35,338 --> 01:23:37,173
I lernt to navigate with charts.

1421
01:23:37,173 --> 01:23:39,573
Made some wonderful friends.

1422
01:23:41,277 --> 01:23:46,282
And I love the basin that we're in with all the

1423
01:23:46,282 --> 01:23:48,551
mangroves and all the trees.

1424
01:23:48,551 --> 01:23:52,655
There are blue herons nesting in those trees and I

1425
01:23:52,655 --> 01:23:56,359
watch them feed their young probably four months a

1426
01:23:56,359 --> 01:24:00,463
year. There's also tons and tons of pelicans in the

1427
01:24:00,463 --> 01:24:00,864
area.

1428
01:24:00,864 --> 01:24:05,340
I am very worried about the proposal, which I just

1429
01:24:05,340 --> 01:24:08,738
reviewed today. That looks at putting pathways both on

1430
01:24:08,738 --> 01:24:09,572
two areas.

1431
01:24:09,572 --> 01:24:14,444
They're calling them thinking spots a and b. These

1432
01:24:14,444 --> 01:24:16,613
would cut through mangroves.

1433
01:24:16,613 --> 01:24:20,490
Heavy mangrove area where these pelicans and birds are.

1434
01:24:20,490 --> 01:24:24,530
There are dozens and dozens of birds there.

1435
01:24:24,530 --> 01:24:28,892
And this would be extremely damaging to the ecosystem,

1436
01:24:28,892 --> 01:24:31,600
to birds and wildlife.

1437
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,630
People don't need to go back there.

1438
01:24:33,630 --> 01:24:35,465
We don't need a park.

1439
01:24:35,465 --> 01:24:37,200
Those lands are rocky.

1440
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:38,234
They're uneven.

1441
01:24:38,234 --> 01:24:43,173
I've heard people talk about having to do a boardwalk.

1442
01:24:43,173 --> 01:24:46,420
This would mean a huge change in the ecosystem.

1443
01:24:46,420 --> 01:24:48,440
We have a huge park.

1444
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:49,979
Bikeways right on the other side of the channel.

1445
01:24:49,979 --> 01:24:52,615
We don't need it right there.

1446
01:24:52,615 --> 01:24:56,850
Let's leave -- preserve some area for the birds.

1447
01:24:56,850 --> 01:25:00,885
There's very little areas where birds can congregate

1448
01:25:01,324 --> 01:25:07,324
where you're not shooing them off a beach or somebody's

1449
01:25:07,864 --> 01:25:09,165
private property.

1450
01:25:09,165 --> 01:25:12,869
We need those mangroves, the root system to protect the

1451
01:25:12,869 --> 01:25:16,172
basin and protect the boats that are in there.

1452
01:25:16,172 --> 01:25:22,178
Any trimming of trees or ripping out trees is going to

1453
01:25:22,178 --> 01:25:25,448
affect the boats and the environment.

1454
01:25:25,448 --> 01:25:25,882
Thank you.

1455
01:25:25,882 --> 01:25:26,683
>> Thank you.

1456
01:25:26,683 --> 01:25:30,883
Anyone else open for public comment? Yes.

1457
01:25:35,580 --> 01:25:40,630
>> I'm Denise Moseley, I'm also known as the crazy bird

1458
01:25:40,630 --> 01:25:41,130
lady.

1459
01:25:41,130 --> 01:25:42,532
Some of you know me.

1460
01:25:42,532 --> 01:25:44,200
Some of you don't.

1461
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,371
Having said that, I live across the street from the

1462
01:25:48,371 --> 01:25:49,205
Gulfport arena.

1463
01:25:49,205 --> 01:25:50,940
I see more than most do.

1464
01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:55,278
If we continue with the plans as they've been laid out

1465
01:25:55,278 --> 01:25:59,616
and we start to mess with the mangroves, we're going to

1466
01:25:59,616 --> 01:26:02,385
start destroying the nesting habitat for different

1467
01:26:02,385 --> 01:26:02,752
wildlife.

1468
01:26:02,752 --> 01:26:05,588
Not to mention the wildlife in the water as well.

1469
01:26:05,588 --> 01:26:12,188
Having the area as it is now is definitely a detriment

1470
01:26:14,631 --> 01:26:17,310
in a few ways.

1471
01:26:17,901 --> 01:26:22,605
I pulled out a heron that was nesting in a tree with

1472
01:26:22,605 --> 01:26:26,109
fishing line entanglement where he might lose a limb.

1473
01:26:26,109 --> 01:26:29,212
It might not mean a lot to you.

1474
01:26:29,212 --> 01:26:32,480
But it is important for us.

1475
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:33,783
It is also mating season.

1476
01:26:33,783 --> 01:26:39,689
The better we take care of this area, the more we can

1477
01:26:39,689 --> 01:26:43,626
continue to have this ecosystem that benefits our

1478
01:26:43,626 --> 01:26:44,127
fishermen.

1479
01:26:44,127 --> 01:26:48,197
Several of our volunteers have charters that come out

1480
01:26:48,197 --> 01:26:49,566
of the marina.

1481
01:26:49,566 --> 01:26:53,703
They can make an educational lesson to some of their

1482
01:26:53,703 --> 01:26:54,103
boaters.

1483
01:26:54,103 --> 01:26:59,503
It's very important that we continue to teach people

1484
01:27:01,577 --> 01:27:06,377
how important our mangroves andest -- estuaries are.

1485
01:27:07,517 --> 01:27:10,820
Right now the problem is that if we remove that

1486
01:27:10,820 --> 01:27:14,123
mangrove area and we start putting in event areas over

1487
01:27:14,123 --> 01:27:17,760
there, I hate to see the trash that comes from that.

1488
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,160
I started a group.

1489
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,700
Every single morning I walk outside and see trash in

1490
01:27:27,700 --> 01:27:28,271
front of my yard.

1491
01:27:28,271 --> 01:27:30,273
Not a complaint just a statement of fact.

1492
01:27:30,273 --> 01:27:33,343
Because when people come visit, they are not

1493
01:27:33,343 --> 01:27:36,450
appropriate with anything, including their trash, the

1494
01:27:36,450 --> 01:27:39,549
mono filliment line, anything that has to do with

1495
01:27:39,549 --> 01:27:39,916
disposal.

1496
01:27:39,916 --> 01:27:42,719
The other problem we have with removing those mangroves

1497
01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:46,122
and making it a thinking area, where are you going to

1498
01:27:46,122 --> 01:27:47,357
put the trash cans?

1499
01:27:47,357 --> 01:27:52,962
Where are you going to put things to dispose of the

1500
01:27:52,962 --> 01:27:54,497
mono filliment line?

1501
01:27:54,497 --> 01:27:56,299
Which continues to kill animals.

1502
01:27:56,299 --> 01:27:59,936
Please consider as we go through to make these

1503
01:27:59,936 --> 01:28:03,573
arrangements where the yacht club is existing now that

1504
01:28:03,573 --> 01:28:07,610
we do not disrupt the ecosystem anymore than we already

1505
01:28:07,610 --> 01:28:08,110
have.

1506
01:28:08,110 --> 01:28:12,281
Right now there's a fishing station over there that did

1507
01:28:12,281 --> 01:28:16,519
not actually meet the specs of what was supposed to

1508
01:28:16,519 --> 01:28:16,953
happen.

1509
01:28:16,953 --> 01:28:19,353
There's no fishing chute.

1510
01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:22,580
There's no carcass disposal chute.

1511
01:28:22,580 --> 01:28:25,561
Which means the fisherman puts them straight into the

1512
01:28:25,561 --> 01:28:25,962
bay.

1513
01:28:25,962 --> 01:28:33,762
And I have to go out there and pick up before they die

1514
01:28:41,244 --> 01:28:43,244
of sepss.

1515
01:28:43,613 --> 01:28:43,946
>> --

1516
01:28:43,946 --> 01:28:47,550
>> How do you put a walkway in there, sir?

1517
01:28:47,550 --> 01:28:48,151
>> Okay.

1518
01:28:48,151 --> 01:28:50,753
>> How do you put a walkway in there?

1519
01:28:50,753 --> 01:28:54,724
>> We'll address it when we get to the marina part.

1520
01:28:54,724 --> 01:28:56,626
I just wondered how you saw it.

1521
01:28:56,626 --> 01:28:57,660
>> On the plans.

1522
01:28:57,660 --> 01:29:00,329
>> Who is the next person for open comment? Anyone?

1523
01:29:00,329 --> 01:29:02,329
>> Yes.

1524
01:29:06,602 --> 01:29:09,602
>> I live in town shores.

1525
01:29:12,942 --> 01:29:16,179
We've owned property there since 1976, my parents, and

1526
01:29:16,179 --> 01:29:19,782
now I. It's my first meeting that I've come to.

1527
01:29:19,782 --> 01:29:22,618
I've watched two on Zoom.

1528
01:29:22,618 --> 01:29:27,900
It's actually quite upsetting, to tell you the truth.

1529
01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:28,791
I do have a question.

1530
01:29:28,791 --> 01:29:30,259
I'm not sure the procedure.

1531
01:29:30,259 --> 01:29:36,859
I mean, lots of people have spoken with their ideas and

1532
01:29:39,368 --> 01:29:40,169
concerns.

1533
01:29:40,169 --> 01:29:46,169
How -- maybe you can answer this after the question.

1534
01:29:46,342 --> 01:29:47,810
How are decisions made?

1535
01:29:47,810 --> 01:29:50,780
Are those working meetings open?

1536
01:29:50,780 --> 01:29:57,220
How do we know that you are really listening and taking

1537
01:29:57,220 --> 01:30:01,324
in to consideration what everyone has said.

1538
01:30:01,324 --> 01:30:05,495
And my last question is how did this get started or why

1539
01:30:05,495 --> 01:30:08,264
did it get started with the yacht club?

1540
01:30:08,264 --> 01:30:12,335
Which I have nothing to do with at all.

1541
01:30:12,335 --> 01:30:15,905
But I think it's a nice part of the community from

1542
01:30:15,905 --> 01:30:17,540
everything I've heard about it.

1543
01:30:17,540 --> 01:30:24,740
So it's just very curious to me how this all started to

1544
01:30:25,114 --> 01:30:31,114
throw them out, rip the building down, build a little

1545
01:30:31,387 --> 01:30:32,210
park.

1546
01:30:32,210 --> 01:30:35,992
We have the clam bayou park. It's beautiful.

1547
01:30:35,992 --> 01:30:38,392
I just don't understand.

1548
01:30:38,427 --> 01:30:39,128
>> Okay.

1549
01:30:39,128 --> 01:30:40,796
That's a lot of inquiry.

1550
01:30:40,796 --> 01:30:43,866
So we'll have to follow up with you individually.

1551
01:30:43,866 --> 01:30:44,567
Thank you.

1552
01:30:44,567 --> 01:30:46,469
Anyone else open for public comment?

1553
01:30:46,469 --> 01:30:48,971
Anyone who has come here tonight and spoken on this

1554
01:30:48,971 --> 01:30:51,774
issue, I encourage you to stick around for the rest of

1555
01:30:51,774 --> 01:30:52,275
the evening.

1556
01:30:52,275 --> 01:30:53,976
>> What about Zoom?

1557
01:30:53,976 --> 01:30:54,811
>> I'm not done yet.

1558
01:30:54,811 --> 01:30:56,579
>> Okay.

1559
01:30:56,579 --> 01:30:57,790
Sorry.

1560
01:30:57,790 --> 01:31:00,383
>> Anyone else in this room that has a public comment

1561
01:31:00,383 --> 01:31:01,584
for open public comment?

1562
01:31:01,584 --> 01:31:02,510
All right.

1563
01:31:02,510 --> 01:31:04,510
I'm sorry.

1564
01:31:04,420 --> 01:31:07,323
Are you -- can we get her a mic?

1565
01:31:07,323 --> 01:31:08,191
You can make it in?

1566
01:31:08,191 --> 01:31:10,920
Okay.

1567
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,492
I saw your hand.

1568
01:31:21,637 --> 01:31:24,707
>> Good evening, and thank you for your service and for

1569
01:31:24,707 --> 01:31:26,108
taking the time to listen.

1570
01:31:26,108 --> 01:31:28,377
And I truly hope that you are listening and taking

1571
01:31:28,377 --> 01:31:29,312
these things to heart.

1572
01:31:29,312 --> 01:31:33,115
I'd like to see a lot more transparency and a lot more

1573
01:31:33,115 --> 01:31:34,830
dialogue on this.

1574
01:31:34,830 --> 01:31:39,355
It seems things are moving pretty fast as far as the

1575
01:31:39,355 --> 01:31:42,225
residents and the community, et cetera.

1576
01:31:42,225 --> 01:31:45,761
By the way, I've been a homeowner for nearly 30 years.

1577
01:31:45,761 --> 01:31:49,398
I was a member of bcyc. I haven't been for a long time.

1578
01:31:49,398 --> 01:31:51,767
I was a member of the lions club.

1579
01:31:51,767 --> 01:31:54,637
Haven't been for a long time.

1580
01:31:54,637 --> 01:31:59,208
I really hope that we do everything we can to make sure

1581
01:31:59,208 --> 01:32:01,878
we don't displace any of those organizations.

1582
01:32:01,878 --> 01:32:02,778
Thank you.

1583
01:32:02,778 --> 01:32:04,778
>> Thank you.

1584
01:32:05,815 --> 01:32:09,415
Anyone else for open public comment?

1585
01:32:09,452 --> 01:32:11,530
All right.

1586
01:32:11,530 --> 01:32:13,489
Seeing no one, have we got anyone on the phone?

1587
01:32:13,489 --> 01:32:14,590
>> Yes, mayor.

1588
01:32:14,590 --> 01:32:15,458
>> All right.

1589
01:32:15,458 --> 01:32:19,658
>> The first person will be Margaret tover.

1590
01:32:24,133 --> 01:32:25,201
>> Hi.

1591
01:32:25,201 --> 01:32:28,801
This is Margaret tober, 59th street.

1592
01:32:29,438 --> 01:32:34,577
Before I make the comments I had planned to make, I

1593
01:32:34,577 --> 01:32:40,683
would like to say that the lady or say to the lady that

1594
01:32:40,683 --> 01:32:44,420
spoke earlier about the building that's boarded up.

1595
01:32:44,420 --> 01:32:48,491
I just by happenstance, had an online conversation with

1596
01:32:48,491 --> 01:32:51,627
one of the owners of that property.

1597
01:32:51,627 --> 01:32:57,270
And she put a rendering of their plans online.

1598
01:32:57,233 --> 01:33:01,170
I would like to give permission to city clerk deMuth to

1599
01:33:01,170 --> 01:33:04,740
give that lady my contact information and the lady can

1600
01:33:04,740 --> 01:33:08,644
contact me and I'll put her in touch with the owner.

1601
01:33:08,644 --> 01:33:15,510
I had a speech written out, and I'm going to discard

1602
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:19,722
that and just kind of free form it.

1603
01:33:19,722 --> 01:33:25,940
I've called Gulfport home since I was 5 1/2 years old

1604
01:33:25,940 --> 01:33:27,494
so that's 60 plus years.

1605
01:33:27,530 --> 01:33:30,499
I was very saddened by what happened at the last

1606
01:33:30,499 --> 01:33:30,800
meeting.

1607
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,236
And actually, I was saddened by what happened at the

1608
01:33:34,236 --> 01:33:35,604
meeting on February 2nd.

1609
01:33:35,604 --> 01:33:40,242
I also went back through some old videos.

1610
01:33:40,242 --> 01:33:46,842
And I noticed even at the very first meeting that Ms.

1611
01:33:50,286 --> 01:33:53,322
Thanos -- the bottom line is Ms.

1612
01:33:53,322 --> 01:33:57,460
Thanos is there now and she deserves to be treated with

1613
01:33:57,460 --> 01:34:00,463
respect and likewise, everybody else should be treated

1614
01:34:00,463 --> 01:34:01,230
with respect.

1615
01:34:01,230 --> 01:34:05,134
Over the course of the last year, you know, even the

1616
01:34:05,134 --> 01:34:08,371
first meetings she attended, I noticed she was never

1617
01:34:08,371 --> 01:34:09,438
welcomed by anybody.

1618
01:34:09,438 --> 01:34:10,840
It's fine to have disagreements.

1619
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:15,311
But I learned in the course of my career that sometimes

1620
01:34:15,311 --> 01:34:19,348
you learn more from talking to people and listening to

1621
01:34:19,348 --> 01:34:23,819
their ideas even if you don't like them that much, than

1622
01:34:23,819 --> 01:34:27,560
you ever learn from a textbook. You know.

1623
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:27,623
You know.

1624
01:34:27,623 --> 01:34:31,823
I learned analyzing financial statements from a

1625
01:34:33,929 --> 01:34:34,830
textbook.

1626
01:34:34,830 --> 01:34:39,630
I learned sig sigma process improvement from a

1627
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:40,636
textbook.

1628
01:34:40,636 --> 01:34:44,874
But most of what I learned in the life of my everyday

1629
01:34:44,874 --> 01:34:47,343
career I learned from everyday people, customers,

1630
01:34:47,343 --> 01:34:50,880
superiors, vendors. And you can learn so much, even if

1631
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:55,151
you don't like most of what they say, if you pick up

1632
01:34:55,151 --> 01:34:58,687
one little nugget, that's more than you had before you

1633
01:34:58,687 --> 01:34:59,388
started communicating.

1634
01:34:59,388 --> 01:35:05,594
So I would like to ask that moving forward that y'all

1635
01:35:05,594 --> 01:35:11,767
just be a little more open to listening to each other.

1636
01:35:11,767 --> 01:35:15,571
And then the last thing is, someone in the community

1637
01:35:15,571 --> 01:35:17,473
brought this to my attention.

1638
01:35:17,473 --> 01:35:20,743
And when council members have a disagreement with each

1639
01:35:20,743 --> 01:35:24,380
other, perhaps there should be some way if it's a

1640
01:35:24,380 --> 01:35:24,847
serious --

1641
01:35:24,847 --> 01:35:26,847
>> Thank you.

1642
01:35:28,250 --> 01:35:30,650
Mr. Mather, anyone else?

1643
01:35:30,853 --> 01:35:32,221
>> There was one.

1644
01:35:32,221 --> 01:35:34,323
Please raise your hand if you wish to talk.

1645
01:35:34,323 --> 01:35:36,323
Your virtual hand.

1646
01:35:37,293 --> 01:35:38,260
I'm not seeing any.

1647
01:35:38,260 --> 01:35:40,660
Oh, there it is.

1648
01:35:41,630 --> 01:35:41,764
Okay.

1649
01:35:41,764 --> 01:35:47,764
This person is -- I'm assuming it's a last name.

1650
01:35:48,700 --> 01:35:48,204
Rings.

1651
01:35:48,204 --> 01:35:52,404
I'm going to allow you to talk.

1652
01:35:54,844 --> 01:35:55,945
You have to unmute.

1653
01:35:55,945 --> 01:35:56,912
There you go.

1654
01:35:56,912 --> 01:35:57,713
Sorry.

1655
01:35:57,713 --> 01:35:58,881
>> Yeah.

1656
01:35:58,881 --> 01:36:01,281
This is Samantha Ring.

1657
01:36:01,684 --> 01:36:04,119
I'm actually having a panic attack.

1658
01:36:04,119 --> 01:36:04,720
That's okay.

1659
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,320
I'm going to tell you something.

1660
01:36:12,928 --> 01:36:18,928
My roommate Ray Rodriguez is standing next to me. --

1661
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,344
I'm telling you we were roommates then, we're roommates

1662
01:36:28,344 --> 01:36:28,844
now.

1663
01:36:28,844 --> 01:36:32,444
I'm legally blind without my glasses.

1664
01:36:32,781 --> 01:36:35,484
That means if my glasses fall off, I can't find them.

1665
01:36:35,484 --> 01:36:36,185
Which is fine.

1666
01:36:36,185 --> 01:36:37,853
That happens to a lot of people.

1667
01:36:37,853 --> 01:36:41,991
However, if I'm alone on my boat and my glasses fall

1668
01:36:41,991 --> 01:36:44,260
off, I also have panic attacks.

1669
01:36:44,260 --> 01:36:49,660
And I have allergies. I have fatal an flaktic

1670
01:36:56,380 --> 01:36:57,373
allergies.

1671
01:36:57,373 --> 01:36:59,773
I use an EpiPen.

1672
01:37:00,643 --> 01:37:03,312
I've lived in this town for over 20 years.

1673
01:37:03,312 --> 01:37:06,882
And I've owned two homes and I lived in another one.

1674
01:37:06,882 --> 01:37:09,282
I guess four homes.

1675
01:37:09,652 --> 01:37:17,452
But I have -- you know, let me just -- forget about me.

1676
01:37:18,193 --> 01:37:20,563
Let's just talk about this.

1677
01:37:20,563 --> 01:37:22,364
I love the shared space idea.

1678
01:37:22,364 --> 01:37:24,934
I think you have a great idea.

1679
01:37:24,934 --> 01:37:28,737
I think that that Gulfport yacht club building, it's

1680
01:37:28,737 --> 01:37:32,141
the most adorable building and it represents Gulfport.

1681
01:37:32,141 --> 01:37:37,146
I think instead of one big new building, would it be a

1682
01:37:37,146 --> 01:37:41,717
more of a dedication to what really is Gulfport than to

1683
01:37:41,717 --> 01:37:45,888
make a little group of Gulfport yacht club kind of

1684
01:37:45,888 --> 01:37:49,625
based on that, that then is a shared space.

1685
01:37:49,625 --> 01:37:55,431
By shared, that means that if you have a disability,

1686
01:37:55,431 --> 01:38:00,690
other people don't recognize it because they're not

1687
01:38:00,690 --> 01:38:00,636
doctors.

1688
01:38:00,636 --> 01:38:03,405
That you can bring your service animal.

1689
01:38:03,405 --> 01:38:06,442
I'm going to tell you something -- okay, whatever.

1690
01:38:06,442 --> 01:38:11,842
I'm sorry, I'm really -- doing that was wrong.

1691
01:38:15,918 --> 01:38:19,755
But anyway, the Gulfport young club, that's adorable.

1692
01:38:19,755 --> 01:38:23,692
I think that would be a great thing to do and it could

1693
01:38:23,692 --> 01:38:26,729
be a shared space that's open and serves the entire

1694
01:38:26,729 --> 01:38:27,290
community.

1695
01:38:27,290 --> 01:38:30,666
However, I would ask that we also do a conservation

1696
01:38:30,666 --> 01:38:33,969
area for the birds in that main rough space.

1697
01:38:33,969 --> 01:38:39,369
That you do a conservation for that mangrove space.

1698
01:38:45,648 --> 01:38:47,648
And --

1699
01:38:49,752 --> 01:38:51,553
>> I think we lost the communication.

1700
01:38:51,553 --> 01:38:56,353
>> Is there anyone else on there, Mr. Mather?

1701
01:38:57,393 --> 01:38:58,761
>> No, there's nowhere else.

1702
01:38:58,761 --> 01:39:02,961
>> I suggest we take a 15 minute recess.

1703
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:09,632
For anyone who is here for the plan, for the marina.

1704
01:39:14,576 --> 01:39:18,514
We'll reconvene at -- actually, let's make it 8

1705
01:39:18,514 --> 01:39:19,281
o'clock.

1706
01:39:19,281 --> 01:39:21,681
We'll reconvene at 8 o'clock.

1707
01:46:44,659 --> 01:46:45,727
>>> All right.

1708
01:46:45,727 --> 01:46:48,263
Welcome back, everybody. Coming off recess.

1709
01:46:48,263 --> 01:46:53,835
We are at agenda item two, the city manager's report.

1710
01:46:53,835 --> 01:46:54,769
>> Thank you, mayor.

1711
01:46:54,769 --> 01:46:58,874
First of all, I just wanted to address about three or

1712
01:46:58,874 --> 01:46:59,608
four items.

1713
01:46:59,608 --> 01:47:03,178
One item I do want to address immediately.

1714
01:47:03,178 --> 01:47:08,517
There was an inquire in regards of correspondence Mr.

1715
01:47:08,517 --> 01:47:10,285
Pela had raised.

1716
01:47:10,285 --> 01:47:14,322
First of all, I'm not in a position to discuss what

1717
01:47:14,322 --> 01:47:16,892
security aspects we employ at city hall.

1718
01:47:16,892 --> 01:47:21,530
Second is in regards to the correspondence you brought

1719
01:47:21,530 --> 01:47:25,634
forward, chief Vincent has spoken to the state's

1720
01:47:25,634 --> 01:47:30,272
attorney's office and it does not rise to prosecutable

1721
01:47:30,272 --> 01:47:30,772
level.

1722
01:47:30,772 --> 01:47:32,700
In response to that question.

1723
01:47:32,700 --> 01:47:32,674
>> All right.

1724
01:47:32,674 --> 01:47:37,612
>> I know there was concerns about security at city

1725
01:47:37,612 --> 01:47:38,113
hall.

1726
01:47:38,113 --> 01:47:43,218
We do every effort to -- keep the building locked down

1727
01:47:43,218 --> 01:47:45,618
as much as possible.

1728
01:47:46,210 --> 01:47:48,757
We still want the public to be able to access the lobby

1729
01:47:48,757 --> 01:47:48,990
area.

1730
01:47:48,990 --> 01:47:50,990
>> Thank you.

1731
01:47:54,496 --> 01:47:58,696
>> Mr. Malorie, Mr. Gunsdser, the presentation with

1732
01:47:58,733 --> 01:47:59,768
little league.

1733
01:47:59,768 --> 01:48:02,871
We're happy to support little league baseball, as you

1734
01:48:02,871 --> 01:48:03,238
know.

1735
01:48:03,238 --> 01:48:06,238
We support whatever they need.

1736
01:48:09,711 --> 01:48:14,516
I'd just also wanted to confirm that city council will

1737
01:48:14,516 --> 01:48:18,820
will be going back to council chambers the first

1738
01:48:18,820 --> 01:48:20,255
meeting in May.

1739
01:48:20,255 --> 01:48:20,889
Correct?

1740
01:48:20,889 --> 01:48:24,426
>> Yeah, can we pull the doors, or else the folks that

1741
01:48:24,426 --> 01:48:27,395
are going to participate can come inside one or the

1742
01:48:27,395 --> 01:48:29,164
other. The noise is bleeding in.

1743
01:48:29,164 --> 01:48:30,432
Go ahead.

1744
01:48:30,432 --> 01:48:31,990
Please continue.

1745
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:31,700
>> Yes.

1746
01:48:31,700 --> 01:48:37,539
Also, I wanted to take the opportunity to thank chief

1747
01:48:37,539 --> 01:48:42,811
Vincent and his staff, and kulteri for his assistance.

1748
01:48:42,811 --> 01:48:46,411
Everyone went home safe and unharmed.

1749
01:48:47,449 --> 01:48:50,385
Both agents did an excellent job securing the issue.

1750
01:48:50,385 --> 01:48:51,820
It went very well.

1751
01:48:51,820 --> 01:48:54,356
It was a very scary situation for quite a long time

1752
01:48:54,356 --> 01:48:54,789
Friday afternoon.

1753
01:48:54,789 --> 01:49:00,789
But I just wanted to thank their respected selves. And

1754
01:49:04,599 --> 01:49:06,599
their respected staffs.

1755
01:49:07,502 --> 01:49:11,139
Fourth of July, we're at the point where we have to

1756
01:49:11,139 --> 01:49:12,140
make that determination.

1757
01:49:12,140 --> 01:49:16,770
Fireworks or no fireworks or no Fourth of July event.

1758
01:49:16,770 --> 01:49:20,815
Basically I'm recommending to you that we forego Fourth

1759
01:49:20,815 --> 01:49:23,451
of July fireworks this year.

1760
01:49:23,451 --> 01:49:28,290
That's based on the premise that if we were to do them

1761
01:49:28,290 --> 01:49:31,893
and other municipalities in the area were not doing

1762
01:49:31,893 --> 01:49:35,530
them, we could see an influx of large individuals

1763
01:49:35,530 --> 01:49:40,368
coming in to the area where I don't believe we have the

1764
01:49:40,368 --> 01:49:41,569
support to manage.

1765
01:49:41,569 --> 01:49:42,700
>> Council.

1766
01:49:42,700 --> 01:49:43,371
>> What about a parade?

1767
01:49:43,371 --> 01:49:45,907
>> Well it's still hard to separate folks.

1768
01:49:45,907 --> 01:49:47,750
That's the issue.

1769
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:50,879
All the events require you can't really social distance

1770
01:49:50,879 --> 01:49:51,713
from that.

1771
01:49:51,713 --> 01:49:55,550
And I mean, we could do something like we did this last

1772
01:49:55,550 --> 01:49:58,453
year later in the year maybe if we want.

1773
01:49:58,453 --> 01:50:02,157
I'm going to use the clich?, become normalized.

1774
01:50:02,157 --> 01:50:05,827
>> We have to make up our decision now as far as for

1775
01:50:05,827 --> 01:50:06,661
something for later?

1776
01:50:06,661 --> 01:50:07,896
>> No.

1777
01:50:07,896 --> 01:50:11,232
>> New Year's Eve was pretty successful.

1778
01:50:11,232 --> 01:50:14,936
We also kept it on the down low to people didn't much

1779
01:50:14,936 --> 01:50:15,870
know about it.

1780
01:50:15,870 --> 01:50:18,106
>> This is specifically for Fourth of July.

1781
01:50:18,106 --> 01:50:20,608
We can have that discussion all through the year.

1782
01:50:20,608 --> 01:50:25,213
We would have to purchase them now to order them.

1783
01:50:25,213 --> 01:50:27,816
That's why I have to bring it to you so soon.

1784
01:50:27,816 --> 01:50:32,187
>> Can we just go back to about going back in May.

1785
01:50:32,187 --> 01:50:35,457
I don't have a problem if it's going to be a regular

1786
01:50:35,457 --> 01:50:36,257
kind of meeting.

1787
01:50:36,257 --> 01:50:40,628
But if it's going to be something that's at all a big

1788
01:50:40,628 --> 01:50:43,631
meeting, I think we should come back here.

1789
01:50:43,631 --> 01:50:46,670
>> If we can predict and determine that, that's great.

1790
01:50:46,670 --> 01:50:48,670
>> Sometimes you can.

1791
01:50:48,336 --> 01:50:50,939
>> If we're going to have another continued

1792
01:50:50,939 --> 01:50:53,575
conversation about this particular topic we're going to

1793
01:50:53,575 --> 01:50:54,576
be talking about.

1794
01:50:54,576 --> 01:50:58,980
>> Or later talking about how we're going to spend

1795
01:50:58,980 --> 01:51:03,385
whatever federal money once we know all of the criteria

1796
01:51:03,385 --> 01:51:04,719
for for it.

1797
01:51:04,719 --> 01:51:07,119
That would probably be.

1798
01:51:07,722 --> 01:51:10,158
>> Please continue with your report.

1799
01:51:10,158 --> 01:51:11,760
>> That's all I had tonight.

1800
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,429
>> I was going to ask you a couple of other things.

1801
01:51:14,429 --> 01:51:16,431
>> Before I get to that.

1802
01:51:16,431 --> 01:51:20,168
I'm going to ask to table the capital improvement

1803
01:51:20,168 --> 01:51:24,339
budget for this evening. I'm required by the charter to

1804
01:51:24,339 --> 01:51:28,760
provide you a capital improvement budget, but I'm going

1805
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,120
to ask you mayor to table it.

1806
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,949
>> Regarding that since we do stand to get some funds,

1807
01:51:34,949 --> 01:51:37,819
some ways that we could potentially help people.

1808
01:51:37,819 --> 01:51:42,757
I know you and Cheryl have had multiple discussions

1809
01:51:42,757 --> 01:51:49,330
about this in the past about figuring out a way to tier

1810
01:51:49,330 --> 01:51:55,336
the water rate. If there's a way we could subsidize or

1811
01:51:55,336 --> 01:51:59,707
the earmarked money we might potentially get from

1812
01:51:59,707 --> 01:52:00,241
congress.

1813
01:52:00,241 --> 01:52:05,880
If we could postpone any for at least a year, any

1814
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:10,485
delays or increases in the water sewer sanitation rate.

1815
01:52:10,485 --> 01:52:14,289
I wanted to know how council felt about those things.

1816
01:52:14,289 --> 01:52:16,724
I'm talking about the city manager and our financial

1817
01:52:16,724 --> 01:52:18,927
director who know that business, bringing something to

1818
01:52:18,927 --> 01:52:19,994
us that might work.

1819
01:52:19,994 --> 01:52:21,994
>> I agree.

1820
01:52:22,931 --> 01:52:25,733
>> Especially a figure about what that would mean.

1821
01:52:25,733 --> 01:52:27,969
>> Oh yes, we would give you the impact.

1822
01:52:27,969 --> 01:52:29,704
>> Yes.

1823
01:52:29,704 --> 01:52:34,642
>> Is that to the extent -- well do we have council

1824
01:52:34,642 --> 01:52:35,376
consent?

1825
01:52:35,376 --> 01:52:36,978
Is that all right?

1826
01:52:36,978 --> 01:52:38,146
>> a gree.

1827
01:52:38,146 --> 01:52:38,813
>> I have one question.

1828
01:52:38,813 --> 01:52:40,813
>> Sure.

1829
01:52:42,617 --> 01:52:47,422
Do we know if the city of St. Pete's going to raise our

1830
01:52:47,422 --> 01:52:50,240
rates now between now and next year?

1831
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:53,528
>> I'm sure their intent is their wholesale rate, yes.

1832
01:52:53,528 --> 01:52:56,698
We would give you the financial impact of that.

1833
01:52:56,698 --> 01:52:58,166
As soon as we know.

1834
01:52:58,166 --> 01:53:00,802
We have some estimates that we work from.

1835
01:53:00,802 --> 01:53:06,202
The biggest issue is the amount of lost revenue.

1836
01:53:06,207 --> 01:53:11,479
Could you use your rescue act moneys to offset or forgo

1837
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:17,652
I guess the term I would use is fore go at this time

1838
01:53:17,652 --> 01:53:19,870
your rate increase.

1839
01:53:19,870 --> 01:53:23,240
It May extend your 10-year plan that you've adopted,

1840
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:23,925
the implementation.

1841
01:53:23,925 --> 01:53:26,427
But you do have to address a revenue loss because of

1842
01:53:26,427 --> 01:53:28,290
the administrative charges and things like that.

1843
01:53:28,290 --> 01:53:31,900
So you'd have to offset that if that was a use of your

1844
01:53:31,900 --> 01:53:32,800
rescue act dollars.

1845
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:33,535
>> Okay.

1846
01:53:33,535 --> 01:53:37,380
>> But you'd be passing savings on that there would not

1847
01:53:37,380 --> 01:53:40,542
be a rate increase this year is how I'm perceiving it.

1848
01:53:40,542 --> 01:53:46,180
>> Some kind of tangible rate that we can pass on to

1849
01:53:46,180 --> 01:53:46,614
residents.

1850
01:53:46,614 --> 01:53:48,950
>> We can start that dialogue.

1851
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:51,986
I mean, we could do some raw numbers and see where it

1852
01:53:51,986 --> 01:53:52,220
goes.

1853
01:53:52,220 --> 01:53:52,921
>> Okay.

1854
01:53:52,921 --> 01:53:53,688
All right.

1855
01:53:53,688 --> 01:53:54,289
Thank you.

1856
01:53:54,289 --> 01:53:55,990
Anything else, city manager?

1857
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:57,358
>> No, sir.

1858
01:53:57,358 --> 01:53:59,758
>> Thank you very much.

1859
01:53:59,761 --> 01:54:00,361
City attorney.

1860
01:54:00,361 --> 01:54:01,563
I have one question for you.

1861
01:54:01,563 --> 01:54:09,363
Those of us who have been here for a while, and I think

1862
01:54:10,438 --> 01:54:15,238
I'm still technically new by Gulfport standards only

1863
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:17,910
gotten here in 2006.

1864
01:54:18,646 --> 01:54:22,846
They're pumping phosphate nitrogen rich waste water

1865
01:54:23,170 --> 01:54:24,886
into Tampa Bay.

1866
01:54:24,886 --> 01:54:28,656
I wanted to know if there's any precedent for -- I

1867
01:54:28,656 --> 01:54:33,194
wouldn't want to take on this kind of legal step on our

1868
01:54:33,194 --> 01:54:33,728
own.

1869
01:54:33,728 --> 01:54:38,990
But if there's any way through the Florida league of

1870
01:54:38,990 --> 01:54:42,437
cities we could gauge them and see if there's any

1871
01:54:42,437 --> 01:54:45,907
interest in a municipal class action suit against

1872
01:54:45,907 --> 01:54:46,341
mosaic.

1873
01:54:46,341 --> 01:54:47,375
They've been a bad steward.

1874
01:54:47,375 --> 01:54:50,440
I mean, every time they put on a commercial, it talks

1875
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:51,279
about them planting a tree.

1876
01:54:51,279 --> 01:54:54,115
But they don't want to talk much about what they're

1877
01:54:54,115 --> 01:54:55,250
doing to the water.

1878
01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:56,784
Take away Disney World.

1879
01:54:56,784 --> 01:54:58,252
That's why people come here.

1880
01:54:58,252 --> 01:55:02,523
Whether it's the springs or the coast. If there's any

1881
01:55:02,523 --> 01:55:04,225
precedent for doing that.

1882
01:55:04,225 --> 01:55:07,829
I'd be interested to see if council had any interest.

1883
01:55:07,829 --> 01:55:09,864
>> We could contact them.

1884
01:55:09,864 --> 01:55:14,535
>> They're a frequent flyer in the environmental world

1885
01:55:14,535 --> 01:55:19,240
for kind of saying, oops, we made a mistake.

1886
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:24,579
Oh, it's a sink hole, who would have known?

1887
01:55:24,579 --> 01:55:29,379
Well who could have known is geologistists and

1888
01:55:36,357 --> 01:55:37,825
engineers.

1889
01:55:37,825 --> 01:55:40,225
>> We'll contact Florida league.

1890
01:55:41,696 --> 01:55:44,499
It wouldn't surprise me if someone was moving forward

1891
01:55:44,499 --> 01:55:46,100
with what's going on lately.

1892
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:48,236
>> Maybe the people who sued us might be suing them.

1893
01:55:48,236 --> 01:55:51,506
>> Based on the fact we've been involved in it, we know

1894
01:55:51,506 --> 01:55:52,573
some of the players.

1895
01:55:52,573 --> 01:55:55,376
>> They want to pick on the little guy with us.

1896
01:55:55,376 --> 01:55:58,579
We'll see if they want to take on mosaic.

1897
01:55:58,579 --> 01:56:01,582
The concern is waters are going to start heating up.

1898
01:56:01,582 --> 01:56:05,887
With all that food in there, nitrogen and phosphorous,

1899
01:56:05,887 --> 01:56:10,658
we're already looking at an increased risk of red tide

1900
01:56:10,658 --> 01:56:12,560
and other Algo blooms.

1901
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,963
>> Where are they putting it right now?

1902
01:56:15,963 --> 01:56:18,633
>> The piney point plant, I believe.

1903
01:56:18,633 --> 01:56:20,268
They're pumping it out.

1904
01:56:20,268 --> 01:56:23,571
>> Where it is, basically, mayor, if I May.

1905
01:56:23,571 --> 01:56:27,771
It's basically along the coast of terrasea.

1906
01:56:29,277 --> 01:56:32,880
Wherever they pump it, it's along the coast of

1907
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:33,281
terrasea.

1908
01:56:33,281 --> 01:56:36,784
>> They talked about it at one time putting it on

1909
01:56:36,784 --> 01:56:39,354
barges and taking it out to the gulf.

1910
01:56:39,354 --> 01:56:39,921
Gees Louise.

1911
01:56:39,921 --> 01:56:42,457
>> You mentioned you were having a meeting on Friday.

1912
01:56:42,457 --> 01:56:45,126
>> Wednesday we had a temp --

1913
01:56:45,126 --> 01:56:46,394
>> Going to affect as well?

1914
01:56:46,394 --> 01:56:48,394
>> Tampa Bay.

1915
01:56:52,700 --> 01:56:56,270
Pinelas County is testing Tampa Bay and old Tampa Bay.

1916
01:56:56,270 --> 01:56:58,270
>> All right.

1917
01:56:58,773 --> 01:57:00,308
Thanks, city attorney.

1918
01:57:00,308 --> 01:57:01,409
Appreciate it.

1919
01:57:01,409 --> 01:57:02,110
Thanks, council.

1920
01:57:02,110 --> 01:57:03,770
City clerk's report.

1921
01:57:03,770 --> 01:57:05,770
>> No report, mayor.

1922
01:57:05,380 --> 01:57:05,947
>> Okay.

1923
01:57:05,947 --> 01:57:06,714
All right.

1924
01:57:06,714 --> 01:57:10,914
That brings us to our consent agenda.

1925
01:57:12,954 --> 01:57:16,891
>> Consent a considering approval of council meeting

1926
01:57:16,891 --> 01:57:17,392
minutes.

1927
01:57:17,392 --> 01:57:22,792
Members to serve on board of adjustment provided for

1928
01:57:23,698 --> 01:57:25,698
term of appointments.

1929
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,200
Joe Szemer, Kelly Wright.

1930
01:57:31,472 --> 01:57:33,674
Providing for term of appointment.

1931
01:57:33,674 --> 01:57:37,274
Robert Craig, Jerry Reid, Mary Hanahan.

1932
01:57:39,914 --> 01:57:44,714
5d resolution appointing a trustee for the police

1933
01:57:47,121 --> 01:57:51,321
officers trust fund providing term of appointment.

1934
01:57:53,461 --> 01:57:55,363
5e, providing for term of appointment.

1935
01:57:55,363 --> 01:57:58,363
Those nominees are ros barbieri.

1936
01:58:06,808 --> 01:58:08,808
Resolution 2021-24.

1937
01:58:18,286 --> 01:58:19,287
5g, resolution 2021-25.

1938
01:58:19,287 --> 01:58:24,870
Authorizing the expenditure of funds for the granicus

1939
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:26,794
platform.

1940
01:58:26,794 --> 01:58:28,794
5 iresolution 2021-27.

1941
01:58:35,603 --> 01:58:37,238
>> All right.

1942
01:58:37,238 --> 01:58:38,139
Motion on this council.

1943
01:58:38,139 --> 01:58:40,374
>> I'll make a motion on the consent agenda.

1944
01:58:40,374 --> 01:58:40,708
>> Second.

1945
01:58:40,708 --> 01:58:43,611
>> We have a first and second.

1946
01:58:43,611 --> 01:58:47,211
All in favor, signify say aye.

1947
01:58:47,381 --> 01:58:53,120
>> It was requested we take off our council rules off

1948
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:55,223
of the consent agenda.

1949
01:58:55,223 --> 01:58:57,158
Margaret tober had written to all of us.

1950
01:58:57,158 --> 01:58:58,492
Do we want to do that?

1951
01:58:58,492 --> 01:58:59,594
>> No, I don't.

1952
01:58:59,594 --> 01:59:00,761
Anyone else?

1953
01:59:00,761 --> 01:59:01,696
>> Anybody?

1954
01:59:01,696 --> 01:59:02,363
>> --

1955
01:59:02,363 --> 01:59:05,700
>> About taking the council rules and procedures off.

1956
01:59:05,700 --> 01:59:07,101
>> She wanted to have a discussion about the rules.

1957
01:59:07,101 --> 01:59:09,101
>> No.

1958
01:59:10,370 --> 01:59:11,839
We have the discussion here.

1959
01:59:11,839 --> 01:59:13,474
We did it, so no.

1960
01:59:13,474 --> 01:59:13,908
I don't.

1961
01:59:13,908 --> 01:59:17,879
We have a motion on the table to vote on the consent

1962
01:59:17,879 --> 01:59:18,846
agenda as is.

1963
01:59:18,846 --> 01:59:22,283
All in favor signify by saying aye.

1964
01:59:22,283 --> 01:59:26,387
Unless you want to make a motion and see if we get a

1965
01:59:26,387 --> 01:59:26,687
second.

1966
01:59:26,687 --> 01:59:29,423
>> Obviously I'm not going to get a second.

1967
01:59:29,423 --> 01:59:33,127
>> All in favor of the consent agenda, aye.

1968
01:59:33,127 --> 01:59:33,895
>> Aye.

1969
01:59:33,895 --> 01:59:35,830
>> Carries to passage with a 4-

1970
01:59:35,830 --> 01:59:37,830
1.

1971
01:59:39,767 --> 01:59:42,767
Resolutions beginning with resolution 2021-28.

1972
01:59:47,742 --> 01:59:51,942
>> Application from the Kiwanis Club of Gulfport.

1973
01:59:58,319 --> 01:59:58,753
>> City manager.

1974
01:59:58,753 --> 02:00:03,553
>> Yes, mayor, this special events of two days.

1975
02:00:06,994 --> 02:00:12,600
This is a request from the Kiwanis Club of Gulfport to

1976
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:16,671
host a volleyball tournament on Gulfport beach from

1977
02:00:16,671 --> 02:00:18,671
8:00 to 6:00 P.M.

1978
02:00:18,706 --> 02:00:23,411
They would have to, of course, have someone manage

1979
02:00:23,411 --> 02:00:27,810
their distancing and such, unless they're playing.

1980
02:00:27,810 --> 02:00:29,750
They've met all the requirements.

1981
02:00:29,750 --> 02:00:33,350
Staff recommends approval at this time.

1982
02:00:33,888 --> 02:00:37,425
They've asked to place six additional volleyball

1983
02:00:37,425 --> 02:00:37,925
courts.

1984
02:00:37,925 --> 02:00:39,460
>> For that weekend?

1985
02:00:39,460 --> 02:00:40,728
>> Yes.

1986
02:00:40,728 --> 02:00:41,529
>> Okay.

1987
02:00:41,529 --> 02:00:42,330
Council comments.

1988
02:00:42,330 --> 02:00:43,731
Follow speaking order.

1989
02:00:43,731 --> 02:00:44,432
Council comments.

1990
02:00:44,432 --> 02:00:45,399
Questions on this one.

1991
02:00:45,399 --> 02:00:46,701
>> I don't have any questions.

1992
02:00:46,701 --> 02:00:51,339
I did have an opportunity to meet the applicants that

1993
02:00:51,339 --> 02:00:54,575
are running the volleyball tournament last night.

1994
02:00:54,575 --> 02:00:58,145
And they have a great plan in place.

1995
02:00:58,145 --> 02:01:01,482
And I feel like they're very community minded.

1996
02:01:01,482 --> 02:01:03,617
So I'm in favor of this.

1997
02:01:03,617 --> 02:01:05,617
>> Good.

1998
02:01:07,210 --> 02:01:08,456
Council member Ray, council member Fridovich.

1999
02:01:08,456 --> 02:01:09,357
>> How many?

2000
02:01:09,357 --> 02:01:13,557
>> They'll be adding an additional six courts.

2001
02:01:15,296 --> 02:01:16,163
>> Council members, vice mayor.

2002
02:01:16,163 --> 02:01:19,300
>> I'm looking at the picture here.

2003
02:01:19,300 --> 02:01:22,303
It looks like -- so how much of the beach would be left

2004
02:01:22,303 --> 02:01:23,671
just from the walkway --

2005
02:01:23,671 --> 02:01:26,607
>> From the walkway back to the volleyball courts.

2006
02:01:26,607 --> 02:01:29,443
It would be the area east.

2007
02:01:29,443 --> 02:01:31,780
>> This just shows where it stops.

2008
02:01:31,780 --> 02:01:36,384
So you can't tell how much of it's left. Okay.

2009
02:01:36,384 --> 02:01:39,384
>> Public comment on this item?

2010
02:01:40,621 --> 02:01:41,555
We'll entertain a motion.

2011
02:01:41,555 --> 02:01:45,155
>> I'll make a motion on 2021-28.

2012
02:01:45,292 --> 02:01:45,760
>> Second.

2013
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:47,862
>> Have a first and second.

2014
02:01:47,862 --> 02:01:48,763
Mr.

2015
02:01:48,763 --> 02:01:51,320
Mather, did we get any phone comment?

2016
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:51,999
>> Not at this time, mayor.

2017
02:01:51,999 --> 02:01:53,999
>> Okay.

2018
02:01:54,468 --> 02:01:55,670
We'll call a vote.

2019
02:01:55,670 --> 02:01:57,400
>> Council member Brown.

2020
02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:57,405
>> Yes.

2021
02:01:57,405 --> 02:01:59,405
>> Council member Ray.

2022
02:02:00,107 --> 02:02:00,474
>> Yes.

2023
02:02:00,474 --> 02:02:02,874
>> Council member Fridovich, yes.

2024
02:02:03,978 --> 02:02:05,978
>>

2025
02:02:06,213 --> 02:02:09,817
>> Resolution authorizing city manager to submit a

2026
02:02:09,817 --> 02:02:12,520
request for federal community project funding.

2027
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:13,254
>> City manager.

2028
02:02:13,254 --> 02:02:14,488
>> Thank you, mayor.

2029
02:02:14,488 --> 02:02:19,126
Mayor, as we've had preliminary discussions in regards

2030
02:02:19,126 --> 02:02:23,764
to relocating 49th street, the public safety buildings,

2031
02:02:23,764 --> 02:02:25,499
police and fire.

2032
02:02:25,499 --> 02:02:29,503
We've recently learned that congress had announced that

2033
02:02:29,503 --> 02:02:34,508
for fiscal year 2021 -- excuse me, 2022, they would be

2034
02:02:34,508 --> 02:02:36,677
accepting applications for earmarks.

2035
02:02:36,677 --> 02:02:40,314
That's new that congress has moved forward to return

2036
02:02:40,314 --> 02:02:40,714
those.

2037
02:02:40,714 --> 02:02:44,485
It previously removed them from their budget process.

2038
02:02:44,485 --> 02:02:48,685
What we've done is contacted congressman Christ's

2039
02:02:49,390 --> 02:02:50,910
office.

2040
02:02:50,910 --> 02:02:53,691
And we'd like to make application.

2041
02:02:55,329 --> 02:02:58,732
We did have preliminary to get a cost associated with

2042
02:02:58,732 --> 02:02:59,660
it.

2043
02:02:59,660 --> 02:03:01,660
It's an application.

2044
02:03:02,136 --> 02:03:06,841
And to ask if under Homeland Security Homeland Security

2045
02:03:06,841 --> 02:03:11,110
appropriations that we could build something like this.

2046
02:03:11,110 --> 02:03:14,749
>> Have they laid out what the limitations are in

2047
02:03:14,749 --> 02:03:16,984
funding or is it fairly vague?

2048
02:03:16,984 --> 02:03:20,554
>> It's fairly vague at this point just the specific

2049
02:03:20,554 --> 02:03:22,656
criteria that you'd have to complete.

2050
02:03:22,656 --> 02:03:26,660
We've been working to come up with a cost estimate, the

2051
02:03:26,660 --> 02:03:27,394
needs assessment.

2052
02:03:27,394 --> 02:03:30,300
It has to all been done by April 16th.

2053
02:03:30,300 --> 02:03:31,999
So we've been pretty focused on that.

2054
02:03:31,999 --> 02:03:37,400
What we're looking at is what we can use as the term

2055
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:39,507
used earlier this evening, shared space.

2056
02:03:39,507 --> 02:03:41,675
So it's an opportunity to make an application.

2057
02:03:41,675 --> 02:03:45,346
But there's some pretty detailed things that they're

2058
02:03:45,346 --> 02:03:46,247
asking for.

2059
02:03:46,247 --> 02:03:50,818
Chief's been looking for -- soliciting from businesses.

2060
02:03:50,818 --> 02:03:53,818
So 49, merchants association, neighborhood associations

2061
02:03:54,989 --> 02:04:00,389
related to 49th street, to seek letters of endorsements

2062
02:04:01,195 --> 02:04:02,563
that's required.

2063
02:04:02,563 --> 02:04:05,266
Also, we need to develop a budget.

2064
02:04:05,266 --> 02:04:08,602
Also, it requires a city council resolution to show

2065
02:04:08,602 --> 02:04:09,703
city council support.

2066
02:04:09,703 --> 02:04:10,171
>> All right.

2067
02:04:10,171 --> 02:04:12,171
Council, comments, questions?

2068
02:04:12,239 --> 02:04:12,540
Council member Brown.

2069
02:04:12,540 --> 02:04:15,442
>> No, I'm excited about it.

2070
02:04:15,442 --> 02:04:20,948
I hope -- I think it will be a great anchor for 49th

2071
02:04:20,948 --> 02:04:21,549
street.

2072
02:04:21,549 --> 02:04:23,918
The shared space is important for training purposes.

2073
02:04:23,918 --> 02:04:28,889
And I think it will be -- it's way important especially

2074
02:04:28,889 --> 02:04:33,394
for -- I know about the fire department because they're

2075
02:04:33,394 --> 02:04:38,194
running out of place for people to sleep.

2076
02:04:38,465 --> 02:04:40,634
Something to enhance their living quarters since they

2077
02:04:40,634 --> 02:04:41,735
stay there 24 hours.

2078
02:04:41,735 --> 02:04:42,469
I think that's important.

2079
02:04:42,469 --> 02:04:46,240
And I know that the police are out -- have outgrown

2080
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:47,508
their space, too.

2081
02:04:47,508 --> 02:04:50,144
So I'm very much in favor of this.

2082
02:04:50,144 --> 02:04:52,144
>> Council member Ray.

2083
02:04:53,547 --> 02:04:54,848
>> --

2084
02:04:54,848 --> 02:04:56,848
>> Council member Fridovich.

2085
02:04:58,919 --> 02:05:01,789
>> We're getting more and more female cops, or police

2086
02:05:01,789 --> 02:05:02,656
officers as well.

2087
02:05:02,656 --> 02:05:04,925
And they're having trouble having their own privacy and

2088
02:05:04,925 --> 02:05:05,659
things like that.

2089
02:05:05,659 --> 02:05:08,729
I do have a question, however, though, city manager.

2090
02:05:08,729 --> 02:05:13,234
We just made a motion to go ahead and put a new roof

2091
02:05:13,234 --> 02:05:14,602
for the fire station.

2092
02:05:14,602 --> 02:05:16,503
Now we're talking about moving it.

2093
02:05:16,503 --> 02:05:21,410
Would it not be better off to hold off for a while

2094
02:05:21,410 --> 02:05:25,579
before we spend money on a new roof if they're going to

2095
02:05:25,579 --> 02:05:26,313
move it?

2096
02:05:26,313 --> 02:05:30,517
>> No, sir, because we'd have to use the building in

2097
02:05:30,517 --> 02:05:31,285
the future.

2098
02:05:31,285 --> 02:05:33,200
Moving other activities in to the fire station.

2099
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:36,200
>> Okay. All right. Thank you.

2100
02:05:37,491 --> 02:05:38,525
>> Vice mayor.

2101
02:05:38,525 --> 02:05:42,296
>> So all of what you mentioned so far doesn't sound

2102
02:05:42,296 --> 02:05:45,650
like it costs time but not necessarily money.

2103
02:05:45,650 --> 02:05:47,668
Do we need engineering, drawings.

2104
02:05:47,668 --> 02:05:49,637
>> Not at this point.

2105
02:05:49,637 --> 02:05:51,472
>> Architect drawings.

2106
02:05:51,472 --> 02:05:54,708
>> We're going to spend approximately $1,800 to get the

2107
02:05:54,708 --> 02:05:58,245
architect to give us basic that we can submit with the

2108
02:05:58,245 --> 02:05:58,579
application.

2109
02:05:58,579 --> 02:06:00,581
>> That's all we need for now?

2110
02:06:00,581 --> 02:06:01,916
>> Yes, ma'am.

2111
02:06:01,916 --> 02:06:03,117
>> Okay.

2112
02:06:03,117 --> 02:06:04,151
>> All right.

2113
02:06:04,151 --> 02:06:05,819
Want to entertain a motion on this?

2114
02:06:05,819 --> 02:06:09,323
>> I'll make a motion on 2021-29.

2115
02:06:09,323 --> 02:06:09,690
>> Second.

2116
02:06:09,690 --> 02:06:10,791
>> First and a second.

2117
02:06:10,791 --> 02:06:12,993
Public comment on this item?

2118
02:06:12,993 --> 02:06:13,827
Seeing no one.

2119
02:06:13,827 --> 02:06:14,828
Anyone on the phones?

2120
02:06:14,828 --> 02:06:16,830
>> Not at this time, mayor.

2121
02:06:16,830 --> 02:06:17,631
>> Okay.

2122
02:06:17,631 --> 02:06:18,666
We'll call a vote.

2123
02:06:18,666 --> 02:06:19,800
>> Council member Brown.

2124
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:20,401
>> Yes.

2125
02:06:20,401 --> 02:06:22,401
>> Council member Ray.

2126
02:06:22,503 --> 02:06:22,903
>> Yes.

2127
02:06:22,903 --> 02:06:24,710
>> Council member Fridovich.

2128
02:06:24,710 --> 02:06:25,472
>> Mayor Henderson.

2129
02:06:25,472 --> 02:06:27,274
>> Yes.

2130
02:06:27,274 --> 02:06:30,744
Brings us to agenda item number 8.

2131
02:06:30,744 --> 02:06:34,944
>> Local planning agency to approve conditional use

2132
02:06:35,949 --> 02:06:41,155
with site plan application -- whole sale, sales, and

2133
02:06:41,155 --> 02:06:45,355
distribution and existing commercial structure and the

2134
02:06:45,726 --> 02:06:51,726
request includes a retail use which is a permitted use.

2135
02:06:52,666 --> 02:06:53,567
>> Thank you.

2136
02:06:53,567 --> 02:06:54,935
City manager.

2137
02:06:54,935 --> 02:06:57,370
>> Mayor, this is condition use.

2138
02:06:57,370 --> 02:07:01,775
It's a permitted use with an accessory retail, which is

2139
02:07:01,775 --> 02:07:06,460
permitted as outlined in your memo from Mr. Taylor.

2140
02:07:06,460 --> 02:07:09,646
This has been a commercial property.

2141
02:07:10,417 --> 02:07:12,860
This is a new applicant.

2142
02:07:12,860 --> 02:07:13,887
A new use of it.

2143
02:07:13,887 --> 02:07:16,790
They've requested permission to move ahead.

2144
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:20,390
This was previously a gun vendor.

2145
02:07:20,394 --> 02:07:21,895
But it's been vacant.

2146
02:07:21,895 --> 02:07:26,695
So subsequently this is wholesale and retail business.

2147
02:07:27,670 --> 02:07:29,803
>> Glad to see business coming on 49th.

2148
02:07:29,803 --> 02:07:30,304
That's great.

2149
02:07:30,304 --> 02:07:32,573
Who will entertain a motion on this item?

2150
02:07:32,573 --> 02:07:33,540
>> Yes.

2151
02:07:33,540 --> 02:07:34,908
>> We're a go.

2152
02:07:34,908 --> 02:07:38,110
I'll make a motion we accept --

2153
02:07:38,110 --> 02:07:39,613
>> 8a.

2154
02:07:39,613 --> 02:07:40,948
>> Recommendation to approve.

2155
02:07:40,948 --> 02:07:42,683
>> Recommendation to approve.

2156
02:07:42,683 --> 02:07:43,851
I do have a question, however.

2157
02:07:43,851 --> 02:07:46,653
>> We're going to get to there.

2158
02:07:46,653 --> 02:07:48,653
>> Second. >> Yes.

2159
02:07:51,191 --> 02:07:53,191
She seconded it.

2160
02:07:53,327 --> 02:07:54,862
>> I second his whatever.

2161
02:07:54,862 --> 02:07:57,564
>> Council member Brown, did you have any comments on

2162
02:07:57,564 --> 02:07:58,980
this one?

2163
02:07:58,980 --> 02:07:59,330
>> I do.

2164
02:07:59,330 --> 02:08:00,601
I did research it a little bit.

2165
02:08:00,601 --> 02:08:02,803
But I don't -- I'd like to know what kind of business

2166
02:08:02,803 --> 02:08:03,404
it is.

2167
02:08:03,404 --> 02:08:06,390
I looked it up and I didn't really understand it.

2168
02:08:06,390 --> 02:08:08,800
I wonder if somebody can --

2169
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:11,440
>> I believe the applicant's in the audience.

2170
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:12,913
If I applicant could come up, please.

2171
02:08:12,913 --> 02:08:14,913
>> You're welcome.

2172
02:08:19,186 --> 02:08:21,586
>> Hi, how are y'all?

2173
02:08:21,955 --> 02:08:22,956
>> Good.

2174
02:08:22,956 --> 02:08:27,756
>> My name is Teresa, my husband Scott. --

2175
02:08:30,898 --> 02:08:34,498
it's used in quilting and sewing.

2176
02:08:34,668 --> 02:08:37,337
This is a project that was made with it.

2177
02:08:37,337 --> 02:08:38,972
It's just a little quilt.

2178
02:08:38,972 --> 02:08:41,942
You can stitch over it or you can just iron it on and

2179
02:08:41,942 --> 02:08:42,843
create things with it.

2180
02:08:42,843 --> 02:08:44,344
It works with paper.

2181
02:08:44,344 --> 02:08:46,146
It works with wood.

2182
02:08:46,146 --> 02:08:48,546
It works with fabric.

2183
02:08:56,523 --> 02:09:01,323
And so it comes in 4 yards and 10 yards.

2184
02:09:01,628 --> 02:09:07,628
The wholesale aspect if the quilt shop orders, ups or

2185
02:09:09,403 --> 02:09:11,803
FedEx picks them up.

2186
02:09:12,506 --> 02:09:19,106
>> Is it like that stitchery my mom used when I was

2187
02:09:21,648 --> 02:09:22,382
yuounger?

2188
02:09:22,382 --> 02:09:23,717
>> Yes, but better.

2189
02:09:23,717 --> 02:09:28,989
>> I looked it up and I said it sounds like stitch

2190
02:09:28,989 --> 02:09:29,423
witchery.

2191
02:09:29,423 --> 02:09:30,570
>> Yes.

2192
02:09:30,570 --> 02:09:31,325
>> I'm excited.

2193
02:09:31,325 --> 02:09:32,250
Good.

2194
02:09:32,250 --> 02:09:34,161
Does anybody else have any questions?

2195
02:09:34,161 --> 02:09:36,797
>> Does anyone else have a question for the applicant.

2196
02:09:36,797 --> 02:09:39,600
>> I'm so glad to see that instead of a gun shop.

2197
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:39,933
Yes.

2198
02:09:39,933 --> 02:09:44,938
>> I just wanted to say, too, to how much we appreciate

2199
02:09:44,938 --> 02:09:45,339
Mr.

2200
02:09:45,339 --> 02:09:45,606
Taylor.

2201
02:09:45,606 --> 02:09:49,309
Mike Taylor has went out of his way to help us.

2202
02:09:49,309 --> 02:09:50,770
Permitting and zoning.

2203
02:09:50,770 --> 02:09:52,212
It was a pleasure to work with everyone.

2204
02:09:52,212 --> 02:09:52,679
>> That's great to hear.

2205
02:09:52,679 --> 02:09:54,679
>> Welcome.

2206
02:09:54,848 --> 02:09:55,115
>> All right.

2207
02:09:55,115 --> 02:09:57,515
Public comment on this?

2208
02:09:58,952 --> 02:10:03,390
Oh, I don't think we have any further questions up here

2209
02:10:03,390 --> 02:10:05,392
so you all are free.

2210
02:10:05,392 --> 02:10:08,695
Unless you have anything you'd like to add?

2211
02:10:08,695 --> 02:10:09,763
>> No, sir.

2212
02:10:09,763 --> 02:10:10,664
Thank you.

2213
02:10:10,664 --> 02:10:13,100
>> Anyone on the phone, Mr.

2214
02:10:13,100 --> 02:10:14,134
Mather?

2215
02:10:14,134 --> 02:10:16,537
>> Not at this time, mayor.

2216
02:10:16,537 --> 02:10:17,871
>> Call a vote. >> Council member Brown.

2217
02:10:17,871 --> 02:10:18,872
>> Yes.

2218
02:10:18,872 --> 02:10:20,872
>> Council member Ray.

2219
02:10:21,675 --> 02:10:22,900
>> Yes.

2220
02:10:22,900 --> 02:10:24,900
>> Council member Fridovich.

2221
02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:25,279
>> Yes.

2222
02:10:25,279 --> 02:10:27,279
>> Vice mayor Thanos.

2223
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:28,749
>> Yes.

2224
02:10:28,749 --> 02:10:30,450
>> Mayor Henderson.

2225
02:10:30,450 --> 02:10:31,885
>> Yes.

2226
02:10:31,885 --> 02:10:34,922
>> That brings us to item number 9.

2227
02:10:34,922 --> 02:10:37,758
The city manager asked us to table until May 4th that

2228
02:10:37,758 --> 02:10:39,260
you wanted to go to?

2229
02:10:39,260 --> 02:10:40,494
>> Yeah, that would be fine.

2230
02:10:40,494 --> 02:10:42,229
If that's okay with council.

2231
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:46,990
Because I know your next meeting you have the park in

2232
02:10:46,990 --> 02:10:46,433
discussion.

2233
02:10:46,433 --> 02:10:47,670
>> Yeah.

2234
02:10:47,670 --> 02:10:49,169
Council, are we okay with tabling that?

2235
02:10:49,169 --> 02:10:50,103
>> Yes, sir.

2236
02:10:50,103 --> 02:10:50,704
>> All right.

2237
02:10:50,704 --> 02:10:55,504
That brings us to 9b, conceptual future marina

2238
02:10:55,809 --> 02:10:56,443
improvements.

2239
02:10:56,443 --> 02:10:58,512
For this, we're going to bring up --

2240
02:10:58,512 --> 02:11:01,815
>> Yeah, mayor, we're just going to give you -- I'm

2241
02:11:01,815 --> 02:11:04,351
going to give you a bigger picture.

2242
02:11:04,351 --> 02:11:09,623
We have some slides that we'd like to show you. Within

2243
02:11:09,623 --> 02:11:13,961
your packet of information, I provided you all the

2244
02:11:13,961 --> 02:11:17,798
backup that's been provided for the last approximately

2245
02:11:17,798 --> 02:11:21,168
8 years and different steps we've taken.

2246
02:11:21,168 --> 02:11:23,360
A couple of things I wanted to clear up.

2247
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:28,375
One of the aspects that was shown on -- and Dennis will

2248
02:11:28,375 --> 02:11:32,746
get into more detail -- was creating a facility, if

2249
02:11:32,746 --> 02:11:37,117
necessary, and they wanted to participate, to bring the

2250
02:11:37,117 --> 02:11:40,717
groups in to under one building.

2251
02:11:41,210 --> 02:11:43,890
We foresee building something that would have a

2252
02:11:43,890 --> 02:11:46,426
commercial kitchen, meeting space, things to that

2253
02:11:46,426 --> 02:11:46,793
effect.

2254
02:11:46,793 --> 02:11:49,596
That's always been included since early on.

2255
02:11:49,596 --> 02:11:54,267
And if you look at the information that you've been

2256
02:11:54,267 --> 02:11:58,472
provided, it addresses the sharets that we've held, and

2257
02:11:58,472 --> 02:11:59,906
the gathering information.

2258
02:11:59,906 --> 02:12:03,510
All of them talk about maintaining the attendance.

2259
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:06,647
And the public input was maintaining the clubs.

2260
02:12:06,647 --> 02:12:08,548
Just not on the present location.

2261
02:12:08,548 --> 02:12:12,653
That was the groups we were resepted to that who

2262
02:12:12,653 --> 02:12:13,530
attended.

2263
02:12:13,530 --> 02:12:16,890
Some of the folks who are in attendance tonight were

2264
02:12:16,890 --> 02:12:17,291
part of those meetings.

2265
02:12:17,291 --> 02:12:20,193
We're just going to give you a broad overview.

2266
02:12:20,193 --> 02:12:23,563
A lot of this is contingent as we spoke on funding and

2267
02:12:23,563 --> 02:12:23,830
such.

2268
02:12:23,830 --> 02:12:27,301
But what we'd like to do is are we headed in the right

2269
02:12:27,301 --> 02:12:27,567
direction?

2270
02:12:27,567 --> 02:12:29,967
Is there a consensus.

2271
02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:35,175
>> This drawing is a conceptual drawing, not a final

2272
02:12:35,175 --> 02:12:36,610
design complete drawing.

2273
02:12:36,610 --> 02:12:42,516
>> This is the result of the input received in four

2274
02:12:42,516 --> 02:12:43,617
different meetings.

2275
02:12:43,617 --> 02:12:46,620
The first one took place approximately 8 years ago.

2276
02:12:46,620 --> 02:12:47,988
It's very broad.

2277
02:12:47,988 --> 02:12:50,657
There was another meeting in 2016.

2278
02:12:50,657 --> 02:12:55,950
And we looked at, okay, what's the funding

2279
02:12:55,950 --> 02:12:55,662
availability.

2280
02:12:55,662 --> 02:12:59,533
We started addressing the idea of having a living

2281
02:12:59,533 --> 02:12:59,966
shoreline.

2282
02:12:59,966 --> 02:13:04,438
When we talk about the breakwater park, those are all

2283
02:13:04,438 --> 02:13:08,942
aspects of this that we floated and asked for comment.

2284
02:13:08,942 --> 02:13:13,513
Later on, you'll see a book in there that when we had

2285
02:13:13,513 --> 02:13:16,216
brown fields investigative and reuse planning monies,

2286
02:13:16,216 --> 02:13:19,286
we went through and did about 8 projects.

2287
02:13:19,286 --> 02:13:23,724
Other than the veterans park project, that was

2288
02:13:23,724 --> 02:13:28,195
discussed, all the other projects are reaching fruition

2289
02:13:28,195 --> 02:13:30,430
except for the marina.

2290
02:13:30,430 --> 02:13:32,132
We've done a bike trail.

2291
02:13:32,132 --> 02:13:35,435
We put the ponds in next to the marina.

2292
02:13:35,435 --> 02:13:39,635
We've done the tangerine greenway, Charlie market

2293
02:13:39,706 --> 02:13:40,307
square.

2294
02:13:40,307 --> 02:13:42,707
We've done shoreline improvements.

2295
02:13:45,812 --> 02:13:49,583
All those projects are what we hope to occur in the

2296
02:13:49,583 --> 02:13:51,985
waterfront redevelopment area, in the 49th street

2297
02:13:51,985 --> 02:13:52,686
redevelopment area.

2298
02:13:52,686 --> 02:13:55,689
This would be the last project.

2299
02:13:55,689 --> 02:13:58,592
Unless council decided they wanted to make any changes

2300
02:13:58,592 --> 02:13:59,559
to veterans park.

2301
02:13:59,559 --> 02:14:03,497
And that's a discussion you can have in the future.

2302
02:14:03,497 --> 02:14:05,298
But so that's what this is.

2303
02:14:05,298 --> 02:14:06,666
This is very broad.

2304
02:14:06,666 --> 02:14:10,637
This is just to say, okay, these are things that were

2305
02:14:10,637 --> 02:14:11,371
previously identified.

2306
02:14:11,371 --> 02:14:17,944
Are we still to use their term from the sailing groups?

2307
02:14:17,944 --> 02:14:19,646
Are we on the right track?

2308
02:14:19,646 --> 02:14:23,150
Is this something that council wishes to move forward?

2309
02:14:23,150 --> 02:14:26,787
As we've tried to secure funding for the breakwater

2310
02:14:26,787 --> 02:14:30,560
park, we've been successful and subsequently had to

2311
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:33,693
turn down the living shoreline dollars because we had

2312
02:14:33,693 --> 02:14:37,764
to free up those dollars at a different economic time.

2313
02:14:37,764 --> 02:14:40,834
And Dennis can talk about background to that.

2314
02:14:40,834 --> 02:14:42,102
>> All right.

2315
02:14:42,102 --> 02:14:42,702
>> Can I just check.

2316
02:14:42,702 --> 02:14:44,702
Can I --

2317
02:14:48,308 --> 02:14:50,811
they see these slides on Zoom?

2318
02:14:50,811 --> 02:14:51,144
Thank you.

2319
02:14:51,144 --> 02:14:54,314
>> David, can we look at the right slide only, please.

2320
02:14:54,314 --> 02:14:56,314
>> Sure.

2321
02:15:05,458 --> 02:15:07,427
>> That one is good.

2322
02:15:07,427 --> 02:15:09,427
Good evening, mayor.

2323
02:15:10,964 --> 02:15:12,964
Good evening, council.

2324
02:15:13,466 --> 02:15:16,470
I'm going to explain how we got to this concept.

2325
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:19,639
I just want to give you some stats of the marina.

2326
02:15:19,639 --> 02:15:23,610
252 wet slips both in the north and south basin.

2327
02:15:23,610 --> 02:15:26,100
75 boat drying storage spaces.

2328
02:15:26,613 --> 02:15:28,613
28 boat lifts.

2329
02:15:29,150 --> 02:15:31,651
20 being in the south basin.

2330
02:15:31,651 --> 02:15:33,920
8 in the north basin.

2331
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:38,124
32 kayak storage presently behind the lions club on the

2332
02:15:38,124 --> 02:15:38,959
beach area.

2333
02:15:38,959 --> 02:15:41,359
350 foot of guest stockage.

2334
02:15:42,262 --> 02:15:46,462
24-hour double lane boat ramp, ship store.

2335
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:48,869
53 boat ramp parking spaces.

2336
02:15:48,869 --> 02:15:52,772
Two yacht clubs are currently on the property.

2337
02:15:52,772 --> 02:15:57,572
The community and stakeholders engage in two workshops

2338
02:15:57,878 --> 02:15:59,145
in 2016.

2339
02:15:59,145 --> 02:16:03,830
Workshop number one was conducted as a listening

2340
02:16:03,830 --> 02:16:06,190
session where participants were asked questions

2341
02:16:06,190 --> 02:16:09,556
focusing on sections of the Gulfport marina.

2342
02:16:09,556 --> 02:16:13,756
The general area encompassing the whole property.

2343
02:16:13,894 --> 02:16:16,830
The central, basically the north basin, and of course

2344
02:16:16,830 --> 02:16:17,831
the yacht clubs.

2345
02:16:17,831 --> 02:16:20,333
The first focus was on the general marina area.

2346
02:16:20,333 --> 02:16:25,472
And the participants were asked how is the marina

2347
02:16:25,472 --> 02:16:26,390
accessed?

2348
02:16:26,390 --> 02:16:30,430
Is nearby residents depending on access through this

2349
02:16:30,430 --> 02:16:30,544
property?

2350
02:16:30,544 --> 02:16:34,514
If parking and maneuvering spaces was adequate.

2351
02:16:34,514 --> 02:16:39,914
The second was on the central marina. What amenities

2352
02:16:40,253 --> 02:16:41,521
are available?

2353
02:16:41,521 --> 02:16:44,391
Were there any deficiencies at the marina?

2354
02:16:44,391 --> 02:16:46,393
And the third questions were the yacht clubs.

2355
02:16:46,393 --> 02:16:48,795
The use of these properties.

2356
02:16:48,795 --> 02:16:52,832
The current configuration, what is needed on these

2357
02:16:52,832 --> 02:16:55,869
properties, and what actually needs improving.

2358
02:16:55,869 --> 02:16:59,973
Additional concern addressed in the sharat was the

2359
02:16:59,973 --> 02:17:03,900
entire marina were parking expansion, additional

2360
02:17:03,900 --> 02:17:07,800
boating activities to enhance the entire marina area.

2361
02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:11,184
Workshop two was conducted weeks later to provide

2362
02:17:11,184 --> 02:17:15,789
comments and feedback of the concept plan that were

2363
02:17:15,789 --> 02:17:20,360
intended to reflect the sediments received in the first

2364
02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:20,860
workshop.

2365
02:17:20,860 --> 02:17:25,298
The Gulfport marina conceptual plan is just that, it's

2366
02:17:25,298 --> 02:17:30,236
a concept aimed to build upon the assets that currently

2367
02:17:30,236 --> 02:17:34,174
exist as well as accommodate future facilities and

2368
02:17:34,174 --> 02:17:38,144
operations while being mindful of the current users,

2369
02:17:38,144 --> 02:17:41,810
surrounding residents, the natural environment, the

2370
02:17:41,810 --> 02:17:44,551
guiding principles present in the design include

2371
02:17:44,551 --> 02:17:47,200
increased landscaping, boating facilities, additional

2372
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:51,458
parking, public access to the water, and clubds and

2373
02:17:51,458 --> 02:17:51,925
organizations.

2374
02:17:51,925 --> 02:17:55,762
Recommending in the first sharat was increasing

2375
02:17:55,762 --> 02:17:56,329
landscaping.

2376
02:17:56,329 --> 02:18:00,300
And if I May, the landscaping encompasses this whole

2377
02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:00,767
area.

2378
02:18:00,767 --> 02:18:06,439
As you can see here in this concept drawing, tiffton is

2379
02:18:06,439 --> 02:18:10,577
actually vacated with vegetated and direct access to

2380
02:18:10,577 --> 02:18:11,611
the boats.

2381
02:18:11,611 --> 02:18:14,347
With additional beach park improved in the south

2382
02:18:14,347 --> 02:18:15,348
portion of it.

2383
02:18:15,348 --> 02:18:18,251
So the southwest portion you have a beach park right in

2384
02:18:18,251 --> 02:18:18,518
here.

2385
02:18:18,518 --> 02:18:23,318
This allows this kayak storage building undercover to

2386
02:18:23,556 --> 02:18:28,356
which we currently have now 32 kayaks to launch

2387
02:18:29,195 --> 02:18:31,595
directly behind this beach.

2388
02:18:31,698 --> 02:18:35,898
Also, additional surrounding areas would be more

2389
02:18:36,236 --> 02:18:42,236
landscaping over here with a -- did I do that?

2390
02:18:42,509 --> 02:18:44,509
>> Yeah. Hold on.

2391
02:18:52,485 --> 02:18:53,486
>> Okay.

2392
02:18:53,486 --> 02:18:57,230
So this is an additional landscaping area here.

2393
02:18:57,230 --> 02:18:58,825
These are like for a bench park.

2394
02:18:58,825 --> 02:19:02,162
These are open to the public so we could see boats

2395
02:19:02,162 --> 02:19:03,363
coming in and out.

2396
02:19:03,363 --> 02:19:06,800
There would also be a floating dock along this area

2397
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:07,500
right here.

2398
02:19:07,500 --> 02:19:11,805
And most important, which came up was the idea of

2399
02:19:11,805 --> 02:19:15,708
rushton facilities at the south end of the marina.

2400
02:19:15,708 --> 02:19:21,708
Right now all these piers are running north and south.

2401
02:19:22,749 --> 02:19:28,254
It was recommended in the first and second sharet to

2402
02:19:28,254 --> 02:19:29,889
build restroom facilities.

2403
02:19:29,889 --> 02:19:33,159
Additional area was the flex parking in the south

2404
02:19:33,159 --> 02:19:34,627
portion of the basin.

2405
02:19:34,627 --> 02:19:37,197
Flex parking means we could use this for events.

2406
02:19:37,197 --> 02:19:41,768
We could use it for boat trailer and for regular

2407
02:19:41,768 --> 02:19:42,669
customer parking.

2408
02:19:42,669 --> 02:19:46,573
Additionally, as Mr. O'Reilly talked about is the

2409
02:19:46,573 --> 02:19:47,540
linear park.

2410
02:19:47,540 --> 02:19:49,275
This is living shoreline.

2411
02:19:49,275 --> 02:19:54,314
We have a lot of information gathered on this

2412
02:19:54,314 --> 02:19:56,549
particular piece of property.

2413
02:19:56,549 --> 02:20:00,190
And so we're almost -- I believe we do have legislation

2414
02:20:00,190 --> 02:20:02,255
to get monies for that.

2415
02:20:02,255 --> 02:20:05,191
>> Do you mind explaining the environmental component

2416
02:20:05,191 --> 02:20:07,260
about how living shoreline works.

2417
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:10,897
>> So a living shoreline would consist of plants.

2418
02:20:10,897 --> 02:20:14,497
It would consist of oyster reservations.

2419
02:20:16,169 --> 02:20:21,441
It would consist of more rip rap to grow the oysters.

2420
02:20:21,441 --> 02:20:25,110
We're looking at putting passive docks in between some

2421
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:29,215
of these areas for fishing or for -- in the mangroves.

2422
02:20:29,215 --> 02:20:32,152
There is no plans to touch any of the mangroves within

2423
02:20:32,152 --> 02:20:33,219
the whole entire property.

2424
02:20:33,219 --> 02:20:33,853
>> Thank you.

2425
02:20:33,853 --> 02:20:36,356
>> I am well aware of the birds in here.

2426
02:20:36,356 --> 02:20:40,627
I've worked at this marina for close to four decades.

2427
02:20:40,627 --> 02:20:43,563
So I know where every bird is, every area this inch of

2428
02:20:43,563 --> 02:20:43,796
here.

2429
02:20:43,796 --> 02:20:47,267
So we are not touching any mangroves areas at all.

2430
02:20:47,267 --> 02:20:48,101
>> Thank you.

2431
02:20:48,101 --> 02:20:50,837
>> And last, the multi-purpose building.

2432
02:20:50,837 --> 02:20:55,410
This building was intended in the sharet to make room

2433
02:20:55,410 --> 02:20:56,743
for clubs and organizations.

2434
02:20:56,743 --> 02:21:01,114
Instead of having three buildings taking over the

2435
02:21:01,114 --> 02:21:05,518
property is to have one multi-purpose building which

2436
02:21:05,518 --> 02:21:07,687
each clubs could entertain.

2437
02:21:07,687 --> 02:21:10,823
So this was the concept that was filed in four

2438
02:21:10,823 --> 02:21:11,124
workshops.

2439
02:21:11,124 --> 02:21:15,361
I'm just talking about the two latest workshops in

2440
02:21:15,361 --> 02:21:15,829
2016.

2441
02:21:15,829 --> 02:21:17,829
>> Yeah. Thank you.

2442
02:21:17,864 --> 02:21:20,934
Anything else you'd like to add?

2443
02:21:20,934 --> 02:21:25,605
>> Currently, like I said, there's a 20-boat lifts in

2444
02:21:25,605 --> 02:21:28,408
this area in the lower basin.

2445
02:21:28,408 --> 02:21:32,712
I could see some more boat lifts going in to here.

2446
02:21:32,712 --> 02:21:37,850
We had 25 empty slips that when the club gave up right

2447
02:21:37,850 --> 02:21:41,287
of refusal, they could not rent the slips.

2448
02:21:41,287 --> 02:21:44,457
So we're losing over $60,000 a year.

2449
02:21:44,457 --> 02:21:50,960
It was decided to put boat slips on the particular

2450
02:21:50,960 --> 02:21:55,201
list, and they are now full with waiting list.

2451
02:21:55,201 --> 02:21:56,369
>> Thank you very much.

2452
02:21:56,369 --> 02:22:00,940
Dennis, can we go through the specific order in case

2453
02:22:00,940 --> 02:22:03,676
anyone has specific questions for you.

2454
02:22:03,676 --> 02:22:04,177
Council member Brown.

2455
02:22:04,177 --> 02:22:07,513
>> The building c, it says right above it storage

2456
02:22:07,513 --> 02:22:07,847
under.

2457
02:22:07,847 --> 02:22:10,316
So it would be a two-story building?

2458
02:22:10,316 --> 02:22:11,618
Open air kind of thing?

2459
02:22:11,618 --> 02:22:12,619
>> Correct.

2460
02:22:12,619 --> 02:22:18,190
It would resemble the existing marina building that was

2461
02:22:20,693 --> 02:22:23,930
built several years ago.

2462
02:22:24,297 --> 02:22:27,834
Storage underneath or whatever small craft we could fit

2463
02:22:27,834 --> 02:22:29,200
under the building.

2464
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:34,402
It would be ada accessible, and meet Miami-Dade code.

2465
02:22:35,174 --> 02:22:35,909
>> Thank you.

2466
02:22:35,909 --> 02:22:36,342
>> Council member.

2467
02:22:36,342 --> 02:22:38,978
>> Do we have plans for this actual building?

2468
02:22:38,978 --> 02:22:40,460
>> No.

2469
02:22:40,460 --> 02:22:41,114
It's a total concept.

2470
02:22:41,114 --> 02:22:43,114
>> Okay.

2471
02:22:44,717 --> 02:22:47,717
>> I have one question, though.

2472
02:22:49,555 --> 02:22:52,992
The boats, the entrance ways to the boats means that

2473
02:22:52,992 --> 02:22:56,429
the people unloading or loading on to those boats would

2474
02:22:56,429 --> 02:22:58,498
have to go an extra distance.

2475
02:22:58,498 --> 02:23:01,200
Right now the road goes along the fence where the gates

2476
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:02,669
are to get to the boats.

2477
02:23:02,669 --> 02:23:06,673
So that means in the case of, like, being over in the

2478
02:23:06,673 --> 02:23:09,342
further docks, I forgot the numbers of them.

2479
02:23:09,342 --> 02:23:12,478
It could be quite a distance to get to the last one.

2480
02:23:12,478 --> 02:23:14,814
>> We do provide dock carts right now.

2481
02:23:14,814 --> 02:23:17,884
And a lot of mariners are used to carrying their

2482
02:23:17,884 --> 02:23:20,860
equipment in dock carts to the pier.

2483
02:23:20,860 --> 02:23:25,158
If you're all the way out on the pier and you park in

2484
02:23:25,158 --> 02:23:29,620
front of the gate that's 300 feet to the pier.

2485
02:23:29,620 --> 02:23:31,462
So what's another 20 yards.

2486
02:23:33,566 --> 02:23:35,535
>> Anything else?

2487
02:23:35,535 --> 02:23:35,968
All right.

2488
02:23:35,968 --> 02:23:37,170
Council member Fridovich.

2489
02:23:37,170 --> 02:23:40,340
>> If we move things now or they're moving out, the

2490
02:23:40,340 --> 02:23:43,776
yacht club is moving out, is there any way to help sea

2491
02:23:43,776 --> 02:23:46,346
scouts and some of the organizations that are involved?

2492
02:23:46,346 --> 02:23:48,881
>> That would be up to you all.

2493
02:23:48,881 --> 02:23:55,421
>> Is the marina in a position to help that or have

2494
02:23:55,421 --> 02:23:57,560
space for that?

2495
02:23:57,560 --> 02:24:00,927
>> We had a preliminary brief conversation about that.

2496
02:24:00,927 --> 02:24:04,330
In regards to the sea scouts, we have been providing

2497
02:24:04,330 --> 02:24:05,698
them slips in areas.

2498
02:24:05,698 --> 02:24:08,234
There were some questions about their lifts and storage

2499
02:24:08,234 --> 02:24:09,680
of some sailboats.

2500
02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:12,405
And we're happy to work with them.

2501
02:24:12,405 --> 02:24:16,576
Dennis and I just have to work out the details with Mr.

2502
02:24:16,576 --> 02:24:19,110
Hien and see what we can facilitate.

2503
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:21,280
But we'd keep the sea scouts.

2504
02:24:21,280 --> 02:24:25,651
We also offer the ability for the group to meet in

2505
02:24:25,651 --> 02:24:27,220
Dennis' public area upstairs.

2506
02:24:27,220 --> 02:24:28,321
>> Yup.

2507
02:24:28,321 --> 02:24:29,856
>> We're willing to work with them.

2508
02:24:29,856 --> 02:24:32,725
>> Other than losing a home, there would not be an

2509
02:24:32,725 --> 02:24:34,560
interruption of services or nig like that.

2510
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:37,830
>> We have all intentions to work with them.

2511
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:41,234
>> Thank you. >> And we've stated that clearly since this discussion

2512
02:24:41,234 --> 02:24:41,601
started.

2513
02:24:41,601 --> 02:24:45,201
>> With people at this meeting talking.

2514
02:24:45,838 --> 02:24:50,243
We wouldn't have to go anywhere, we'd accommodate them.

2515
02:24:50,243 --> 02:24:51,344
>> Preliminary discussions.

2516
02:24:51,344 --> 02:24:52,812
>> Yeah.

2517
02:24:52,812 --> 02:24:57,183
Vice mayor. >> So being in the flood zone, how raised would a

2518
02:24:57,183 --> 02:24:59,185
building there have to be?

2519
02:24:59,185 --> 02:25:00,453
>> 13 feet above.

2520
02:25:00,453 --> 02:25:01,154
>> That's all?

2521
02:25:01,154 --> 02:25:01,521
Okay.

2522
02:25:01,521 --> 02:25:06,125
So one of the things about sustainability is to not

2523
02:25:06,125 --> 02:25:09,328
build any municipal buildings or municipal facilities

2524
02:25:09,328 --> 02:25:13,466
that you don't have to in a flood zone.

2525
02:25:13,466 --> 02:25:14,667
It just doesn't make sense.

2526
02:25:14,667 --> 02:25:19,105
Even if you haven't raised and are using it for

2527
02:25:19,105 --> 02:25:23,543
storage, you know, one of the basic things they tell

2528
02:25:23,543 --> 02:25:25,311
you not to do.

2529
02:25:25,311 --> 02:25:27,914
And especially when all these clubs already have

2530
02:25:27,914 --> 02:25:30,817
buildings, it means that we would be spending city

2531
02:25:30,817 --> 02:25:34,387
money to build a building that we're going to lease out

2532
02:25:34,387 --> 02:25:35,540
to clubs.

2533
02:25:35,540 --> 02:25:38,591
So we'd have to see when we would get a return on our

2534
02:25:38,591 --> 02:25:41,561
money, and would they be able to afford the rent that

2535
02:25:41,561 --> 02:25:44,564
we'd have to charge them in order to pay for that

2536
02:25:44,564 --> 02:25:44,831
building?

2537
02:25:44,831 --> 02:25:47,767
Usually that's the kind of thing a developer does, not

2538
02:25:47,767 --> 02:25:48,334
a city.

2539
02:25:48,334 --> 02:25:51,300
Especially if it's a building that we're not, as a

2540
02:25:51,300 --> 02:25:52,710
city, going to use.

2541
02:25:52,710 --> 02:25:55,842
So it's not something that we need as part of our

2542
02:25:55,842 --> 02:25:56,843
marina per se.

2543
02:25:56,843 --> 02:26:01,114
And like I say, these people, I mean, these three clubs

2544
02:26:01,114 --> 02:26:04,984
all have buildings now that they can keep using and

2545
02:26:04,984 --> 02:26:08,870
having it not cost the city a cent.

2546
02:26:08,870 --> 02:26:13,250
And you could still redevelop some of this area around

2547
02:26:13,250 --> 02:26:17,463
them and maybe negotiate with bcyc about having better

2548
02:26:17,463 --> 02:26:22,435
access for the public without spending city money on a

2549
02:26:22,435 --> 02:26:23,402
new building.

2550
02:26:23,402 --> 02:26:28,574
And especially one that's in a flood zone that would be

2551
02:26:28,574 --> 02:26:30,576
particularly vulnerable and expensive.

2552
02:26:30,576 --> 02:26:32,545
You know.

2553
02:26:32,545 --> 02:26:37,450
So for -- I mean, it's a nice idea.

2554
02:26:37,450 --> 02:26:42,210
But I don't see us having -- I mean, if we were to get

2555
02:26:42,210 --> 02:26:45,558
this $5 million, we'd have to decide that before we

2556
02:26:45,558 --> 02:26:49,762
tear down the bcyc, we'd have to make sure we want to

2557
02:26:49,762 --> 02:26:53,633
do this because it doesn't make sense to tear down the

2558
02:26:53,633 --> 02:26:57,136
building until we have a plan for something else.

2559
02:26:57,136 --> 02:26:59,405
So maybe make a park and no building.

2560
02:26:59,405 --> 02:27:02,408
But to spend $5 million on a building that we're just

2561
02:27:02,408 --> 02:27:05,378
going to rent out to clubs when all those clubs have

2562
02:27:05,378 --> 02:27:05,945
buildings now.

2563
02:27:05,945 --> 02:27:08,714
The to me, it doesn't make sense.

2564
02:27:08,714 --> 02:27:11,830
It doesn't seem to make financial sense.

2565
02:27:11,830 --> 02:27:13,753
Especially when they could just stay where they are and

2566
02:27:13,753 --> 02:27:14,287
be fine.

2567
02:27:14,287 --> 02:27:17,189
Maybe you could spend some of the money renovating the

2568
02:27:17,189 --> 02:27:18,570
area in general.

2569
02:27:18,570 --> 02:27:21,194
I like the idea of the permeable parking.

2570
02:27:21,194 --> 02:27:22,280
That was very good.

2571
02:27:22,280 --> 02:27:26,866
And again, how long would it take to pay off that

2572
02:27:26,866 --> 02:27:30,836
building with the rents that we would be collecting

2573
02:27:30,836 --> 02:27:34,373
because those are all non-profit companies. I mean,

2574
02:27:34,373 --> 02:27:39,212
plugs. So they're not going to be paying rents like a

2575
02:27:39,212 --> 02:27:40,980
normal business would pay.

2576
02:27:40,980 --> 02:27:44,450
Again, flood zone, being a developer, basically, and

2577
02:27:44,450 --> 02:27:47,920
you know, and then the birds. You know.

2578
02:27:47,920 --> 02:27:51,524
Even if we keep the mangroves, there's other trees

2579
02:27:51,524 --> 02:27:55,127
there, and the disruption, you know, you'd have to

2580
02:27:55,127 --> 02:27:58,731
build it all when the birds weren't nesting or

2581
02:27:58,731 --> 02:27:59,131
something.

2582
02:27:59,131 --> 02:28:02,401
Because otherwise it could be a disaster for the birds.

2583
02:28:02,401 --> 02:28:03,903
I'm personally opposed to all this.

2584
02:28:03,903 --> 02:28:05,903
>> All right.

2585
02:28:06,606 --> 02:28:08,606
[Applause]

2586
02:28:13,450 --> 02:28:16,148
>> Mr. O'Reilly, can you speak to the age of the

2587
02:28:16,148 --> 02:28:16,415
buildings?

2588
02:28:16,415 --> 02:28:16,882
>> Yeah.

2589
02:28:16,882 --> 02:28:19,218
The buildings, I mean, to us --

2590
02:28:19,218 --> 02:28:20,860
>> This is not new, by the way.

2591
02:28:20,860 --> 02:28:21,821
>> No.

2592
02:28:21,821 --> 02:28:25,324
We look at the improvements we'd like to see in the

2593
02:28:25,324 --> 02:28:25,658
area.

2594
02:28:25,658 --> 02:28:29,996
I mean, the buildings have outlived their life

2595
02:28:29,996 --> 02:28:32,131
expectancy to the city.

2596
02:28:32,131 --> 02:28:35,968
As they foresee us for taking any building that has --

2597
02:28:35,968 --> 02:28:39,238
I mean, we have no investment in that.

2598
02:28:39,238 --> 02:28:44,760
You'd have to bring it up to city code if you take the

2599
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:44,810
building over.

2600
02:28:44,810 --> 02:28:49,248
Then we get into the issue if we make more than 50% of

2601
02:28:49,248 --> 02:28:52,351
the actual building, that would require the building to

2602
02:28:52,351 --> 02:28:54,420
be 13 feet off the ground.

2603
02:28:54,420 --> 02:28:57,289
This is to start the dialogue.

2604
02:28:57,289 --> 02:29:00,920
I mean, council member, if the majority of council

2605
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:03,529
chose not to move forward, we could go as status quo.

2606
02:29:03,529 --> 02:29:06,932
I mean, we're not -- we brought the information

2607
02:29:06,932 --> 02:29:07,466
forward.

2608
02:29:07,466 --> 02:29:07,900
>> That's why I'm asking.

2609
02:29:07,900 --> 02:29:13,939
I know it's a repeat for you to say all this again for

2610
02:29:13,939 --> 02:29:15,341
the umpteenth time.

2611
02:29:15,341 --> 02:29:16,375
>> Whatever council's direction.

2612
02:29:16,375 --> 02:29:20,613
What we're looking at is these are the things that were

2613
02:29:20,613 --> 02:29:22,515
provided for during the sharets.

2614
02:29:22,515 --> 02:29:26,218
>> And also, that building is not exclusively for the

2615
02:29:26,218 --> 02:29:28,540
use of the existing clubs.

2616
02:29:28,540 --> 02:29:30,823
There would be any number of uses.

2617
02:29:30,823 --> 02:29:36,729
Just like we rent out places like scout hal hall, the

2618
02:29:36,729 --> 02:29:37,263
casino.

2619
02:29:37,263 --> 02:29:41,463
They could be used for city events.

2620
02:29:42,668 --> 02:29:44,970
We're talking about a low key entry.

2621
02:29:44,970 --> 02:29:47,373
We're not talking about paving a trail back there.

2622
02:29:47,373 --> 02:29:51,777
We're talking about doing something very much to blend

2623
02:29:51,777 --> 02:29:54,246
in with the natural landscape.

2624
02:29:54,246 --> 02:29:55,810
>> Exactly.

2625
02:29:55,810 --> 02:29:55,948
Those are all preliminary.

2626
02:29:55,948 --> 02:29:59,251
The initial, as I provided in your information, it

2627
02:29:59,251 --> 02:30:02,955
strictly was to make the area accessible to the public.

2628
02:30:02,955 --> 02:30:03,989
>> Exactly.

2629
02:30:03,989 --> 02:30:05,725
Which it hasn't been for a long time.

2630
02:30:05,725 --> 02:30:07,593
>> Which it hasn't been for a long time.

2631
02:30:07,593 --> 02:30:09,362
And it has to be safe.

2632
02:30:09,362 --> 02:30:12,231
As someone spoke of the rocks and this and that.

2633
02:30:12,231 --> 02:30:18,300
Yes, you could go from having a boardwalk, you could

2634
02:30:18,300 --> 02:30:20,306
have a shell pathway.

2635
02:30:20,306 --> 02:30:23,576
If you're going to invite the public, you have to make

2636
02:30:23,576 --> 02:30:24,176
it safe.

2637
02:30:24,176 --> 02:30:28,481
When Dennis used the term docks, low impact docks, I

2638
02:30:28,481 --> 02:30:33,185
looked at it as more piers, very similar to what you

2639
02:30:33,185 --> 02:30:34,920
have in clam bayou.

2640
02:30:34,920 --> 02:30:36,920
Approximately 12 x 12.

2641
02:30:37,690 --> 02:30:39,291
They're not docks.

2642
02:30:39,291 --> 02:30:42,291
We're not bringing vessels up.

2643
02:30:42,428 --> 02:30:43,929
They're too shallow.

2644
02:30:43,929 --> 02:30:45,264
>> Observation.

2645
02:30:45,264 --> 02:30:48,968
>> Yeah, and for people to enjoy it.

2646
02:30:48,968 --> 02:30:53,506
This whole issue was generated each time by the desire

2647
02:30:53,506 --> 02:30:57,576
for members who participated in those sharets to open

2648
02:30:57,576 --> 02:30:59,812
more up to the public.

2649
02:30:59,812 --> 02:31:03,349
I mean, I'm not here to debate it.

2650
02:31:03,349 --> 02:31:07,553
>> I just wanted some of the answers that you've given

2651
02:31:07,553 --> 02:31:10,589
in the past when this has come up.

2652
02:31:10,589 --> 02:31:15,989
Since it always appears to be brand new news.

2653
02:31:16,962 --> 02:31:19,298
Putting municipal buildings in flood zones.

2654
02:31:19,298 --> 02:31:19,932
That's true.

2655
02:31:19,932 --> 02:31:22,968
Except when it's a marina structure.

2656
02:31:22,968 --> 02:31:26,380
Marinas tend to be near water.

2657
02:31:26,380 --> 02:31:28,707
Those who came up with misinformation tonight, I don't

2658
02:31:28,707 --> 02:31:30,209
know if it was intentional.

2659
02:31:30,209 --> 02:31:32,278
But I wanted to address.

2660
02:31:32,278 --> 02:31:36,849
We had meetings with some people -- Gulfport yacht

2661
02:31:36,849 --> 02:31:43,689
club, their lease is actually the one we use as a model

2662
02:31:43,689 --> 02:31:45,689
for what works.

2663
02:31:46,292 --> 02:31:48,692
Paying an actual price.

2664
02:31:48,828 --> 02:31:49,495
>> $24,000.

2665
02:31:49,495 --> 02:31:50,729
>> There you go.

2666
02:31:50,729 --> 02:31:52,970
That's an actual rent.

2667
02:31:52,970 --> 02:31:53,866
The mangroves.

2668
02:31:53,866 --> 02:31:56,168
You can't take the mangroves out.

2669
02:31:56,168 --> 02:32:00,500
If you're going to do the living shoreline program.

2670
02:32:00,500 --> 02:32:04,410
In fact, there's usually some plannings that go along

2671
02:32:04,410 --> 02:32:05,377
with that.

2672
02:32:05,377 --> 02:32:08,247
And not disrupting the existing habitat.

2673
02:32:08,247 --> 02:32:11,917
So what I've seen is that you guys, what was told to me

2674
02:32:11,917 --> 02:32:13,919
tonight is how special this place is.

2675
02:32:13,919 --> 02:32:17,389
And also, but it's such a small place, why do people

2676
02:32:17,389 --> 02:32:18,657
need to visit it.

2677
02:32:18,657 --> 02:32:20,726
You can't say both of those things.

2678
02:32:20,726 --> 02:32:25,798
So what you've gotten to enjoy is either a guest of

2679
02:32:25,798 --> 02:32:29,435
yacht club, is you got to enjoy it.

2680
02:32:29,435 --> 02:32:33,138
But if you're a regular person, people that live in

2681
02:32:33,138 --> 02:32:37,576
this city's land, as soon as you get to that gate where

2682
02:32:37,576 --> 02:32:41,280
it says no entry for bcyc members, it is exclusive.

2683
02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:44,383
I'm not saying it's based on race or gender or how much

2684
02:32:44,383 --> 02:32:45,150
money you have.

2685
02:32:45,150 --> 02:32:48,621
But it's exclusive once you tell people that they can't

2686
02:32:48,621 --> 02:32:51,724
go on public land and it's just for you.

2687
02:32:51,724 --> 02:32:57,229
The vast majority of this city have never gotten to go

2688
02:32:57,229 --> 02:33:02,201
out on that little point and see where the blue

2689
02:33:02,201 --> 02:33:03,202
herrings nest.

2690
02:33:03,202 --> 02:33:06,710
My point with this is public access.

2691
02:33:06,710 --> 02:33:09,808
And I want everybody to enjoy what only a handful of

2692
02:33:09,808 --> 02:33:12,478
people could enjoy for a very long time.

2693
02:33:12,478 --> 02:33:15,614
Because public access to that property for a lot of

2694
02:33:15,614 --> 02:33:19,840
years now, I'm not taking away the good that the yacht

2695
02:33:19,840 --> 02:33:20,190
club has done.

2696
02:33:20,190 --> 02:33:25,958
But we can't sit here and appear that everyone has

2697
02:33:25,958 --> 02:33:27,293
been --

2698
02:33:27,293 --> 02:33:28,761
what's that?

2699
02:33:28,761 --> 02:33:31,163
>> Golf port yacht club has the same thing.

2700
02:33:31,163 --> 02:33:32,640
They've got a gate.

2701
02:33:32,640 --> 02:33:32,665
>> Thank you.

2702
02:33:32,665 --> 02:33:34,700
They're also paying a real rent for it.

2703
02:33:34,700 --> 02:33:36,669
>> So are they.

2704
02:33:36,669 --> 02:33:39,104
>> I let everybody speak for a long time and I'm going

2705
02:33:39,104 --> 02:33:40,940
to say what I got to say right now.

2706
02:33:40,940 --> 02:33:41,507
All right.

2707
02:33:41,507 --> 02:33:44,977
If you want to vote me out next time, more power to

2708
02:33:44,977 --> 02:33:45,844
you, that's fine.

2709
02:33:45,844 --> 02:33:46,779
I get it.

2710
02:33:46,779 --> 02:33:52,170
So the moment you get to that gate, it's no longer open

2711
02:33:52,170 --> 02:33:53,352
to the public.

2712
02:33:53,352 --> 02:33:55,788
Where there's been crap floating on social media about

2713
02:33:55,788 --> 02:33:58,223
how we're going to pay for the whole thing.

2714
02:33:58,223 --> 02:34:02,861
We're vacating a street to do it. We're talking about

2715
02:34:02,861 --> 02:34:06,598
an impermeable surface that lets rain water -- the

2716
02:34:06,598 --> 02:34:11,270
biggest and most insulting one to me was the sea

2717
02:34:11,270 --> 02:34:16,410
scouts, that we were going to turn these guys away.

2718
02:34:16,410 --> 02:34:19,545
Sat there with the people that run the program and

2719
02:34:19,545 --> 02:34:22,348
seemed like we were giving them the boot.

2720
02:34:22,348 --> 02:34:24,149
That was pretty crappy to do.

2721
02:34:24,149 --> 02:34:26,352
>> You understand that you do not --

2722
02:34:26,352 --> 02:34:28,687
>> I understand the public comment already happened.

2723
02:34:28,687 --> 02:34:31,557
And there was a lot of misinformation spread out there.

2724
02:34:31,557 --> 02:34:33,225
That's what I understand right now.

2725
02:34:33,225 --> 02:34:35,594
>> Not sponsor the sea scouts.

2726
02:34:35,594 --> 02:34:37,863
People, I know you're listening.

2727
02:34:37,863 --> 02:34:38,263
Municipalities --

2728
02:34:38,263 --> 02:34:40,666
>> I didn't say that we would sponsor them.

2729
02:34:40,666 --> 02:34:42,868
Sir, I gave you your three minutes.

2730
02:34:42,868 --> 02:34:45,270
You can come to it next time if you want.

2731
02:34:45,270 --> 02:34:47,106
But I gave you your three minutes.

2732
02:34:47,106 --> 02:34:49,708
The bottom line is we told them they weren't going to

2733
02:34:49,708 --> 02:34:52,311
lose their home as long as there were people willing to

2734
02:34:52,311 --> 02:34:53,278
do it with them.

2735
02:34:53,278 --> 02:34:57,850
I don't think it has to be the yacht club to be the

2736
02:34:57,850 --> 02:34:58,550
only one.

2737
02:34:58,550 --> 02:35:00,786
So that's what I got to say about it.

2738
02:35:00,786 --> 02:35:04,923
I want to open this land up so that everyone can enjoy

2739
02:35:04,923 --> 02:35:05,257
it.

2740
02:35:05,257 --> 02:35:08,260
I want to protect the wild life that's there.

2741
02:35:08,260 --> 02:35:11,163
I want to give the people this land that's been cut

2742
02:35:11,163 --> 02:35:11,430
off.

2743
02:35:11,430 --> 02:35:12,464
That's the bottom line.

2744
02:35:12,464 --> 02:35:13,832
It doesn't have to look like this.

2745
02:35:13,832 --> 02:35:17,936
But it needs to be something that serves a diverse

2746
02:35:17,936 --> 02:35:21,640
array of purposes for more than the yacht club.

2747
02:35:21,640 --> 02:35:27,400
>> But aren't we going to have the whole breakwater

2748
02:35:29,148 --> 02:35:29,915
park.

2749
02:35:29,915 --> 02:35:33,850
>> I have my opinion and you have yours. --

2750
02:35:33,850 --> 02:35:34,860
>> Is that your argument?

2751
02:35:34,860 --> 02:35:36,522
>> No, I'm not saying -- well I'm saying.

2752
02:35:36,522 --> 02:35:40,759
>> I've been pretty clear about what my opinion is, and

2753
02:35:40,759 --> 02:35:42,695
it's my turn to speak.

2754
02:35:42,695 --> 02:35:47,666
We'll go around if anyone has anything to say.

2755
02:35:47,666 --> 02:35:50,736
Does anyone have further comments or questions.

2756
02:35:50,736 --> 02:35:51,203
>> Boo.

2757
02:35:51,203 --> 02:35:53,203
>> Boo. That's fine.

2758
02:35:53,272 --> 02:35:57,760
But we're going to follow the decorum.

2759
02:35:57,760 --> 02:35:58,343
This is council's term.

2760
02:35:58,343 --> 02:36:03,150
>> I saw years ago before this council was here, before

2761
02:36:03,150 --> 02:36:07,720
this city manager was here, at the end of tiffton, I

2762
02:36:07,720 --> 02:36:12,825
saw them put up a fence to keep people from getting to

2763
02:36:12,825 --> 02:36:17,620
the water and fishing off the end of that road.

2764
02:36:17,620 --> 02:36:20,833
There's been a 6 foot, 8 foot fence up there to keep

2765
02:36:20,833 --> 02:36:23,936
the public from fishing off of that seawall that wasn't

2766
02:36:23,936 --> 02:36:25,204
part of the club.

2767
02:36:25,204 --> 02:36:26,572
I saw the fence go up.

2768
02:36:26,572 --> 02:36:30,420
I saw the public get upset about it but it stayed up.

2769
02:36:30,420 --> 02:36:30,809
Now it's down.

2770
02:36:30,809 --> 02:36:36,448
And it's nice to look down that road and be able to see

2771
02:36:36,448 --> 02:36:39,885
open water with no fence keeping people away.

2772
02:36:39,885 --> 02:36:43,880
I am totally for public access.

2773
02:36:43,880 --> 02:36:49,161
These little parks over here on the east side of this

2774
02:36:49,161 --> 02:36:50,796
land are beautiful.

2775
02:36:50,796 --> 02:36:55,400
And everybody in Gulfport has the right to be there.

2776
02:36:55,400 --> 02:36:57,870
So it was nice to see that fence come down.

2777
02:36:57,870 --> 02:37:01,140
I'd like to see some more come down.

2778
02:37:01,140 --> 02:37:03,909
>> Anyone else has any further comments, please?

2779
02:37:03,909 --> 02:37:05,911
>> I do agree with April.

2780
02:37:05,911 --> 02:37:08,881
I don't agree with tearing down the building when we

2781
02:37:08,881 --> 02:37:11,550
don't really have any financing or any real plan.

2782
02:37:11,550 --> 02:37:13,118
I think that the building should stay.

2783
02:37:13,118 --> 02:37:15,454
>> It's hard to hear you.

2784
02:37:15,454 --> 02:37:18,423
>> -- I think it's premature.

2785
02:37:18,423 --> 02:37:21,593
I certainly -- every time I hear that, I keep

2786
02:37:21,593 --> 02:37:22,694
thinking --

2787
02:37:22,694 --> 02:37:24,694
>> What?

2788
02:37:25,464 --> 02:37:26,465
I can't hear you.

2789
02:37:26,465 --> 02:37:28,465
>> I'm sorry.

2790
02:37:28,734 --> 02:37:33,739
I said bottom line is that I don't agree with tearing

2791
02:37:33,739 --> 02:37:38,744
down the structures as they are until we have plans in

2792
02:37:38,744 --> 02:37:39,178
place.

2793
02:37:39,178 --> 02:37:43,749
I just keep seeing in my head sitting there with an

2794
02:37:43,749 --> 02:37:44,550
empty spot.

2795
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:47,286
I think that doesn't do anything for the city or the

2796
02:37:47,286 --> 02:37:47,553
citizens.

2797
02:37:47,553 --> 02:37:50,822
I do agree it should be opened up.

2798
02:37:50,822 --> 02:37:55,661
I would love to sit there on the side of the

2799
02:37:55,661 --> 02:38:00,980
entranceway to the marina and a picnic table. And I

2800
02:38:00,980 --> 02:38:04,503
would love to see that boaters have access to the

2801
02:38:04,503 --> 02:38:08,941
bathrooms instead of having to go to the south marina

2802
02:38:08,941 --> 02:38:12,440
all the way to the actual marina.

2803
02:38:12,440 --> 02:38:12,878
>> Fair enough.

2804
02:38:12,878 --> 02:38:13,946
I get it.

2805
02:38:13,946 --> 02:38:15,130
>> Not at this time.

2806
02:38:15,130 --> 02:38:15,614
No.

2807
02:38:15,614 --> 02:38:18,984
>> I'm not saying that we couldn't do parts of this.

2808
02:38:18,984 --> 02:38:23,155
Having a bathroom there is probably a great idea.

2809
02:38:23,155 --> 02:38:27,250
But I still feel like you're going to -- you've already

2810
02:38:27,250 --> 02:38:30,896
voted and are trying to get the financing for this

2811
02:38:30,896 --> 02:38:34,766
breakwater park, to me, that gives a lot of public

2812
02:38:34,766 --> 02:38:35,167
access.

2813
02:38:35,167 --> 02:38:37,536
The birds, you could see the birds from across the way.

2814
02:38:37,536 --> 02:38:40,839
And we were talking about putting an observation tower

2815
02:38:40,839 --> 02:38:42,307
along the breakwater park.

2816
02:38:42,307 --> 02:38:44,643
You could see all that from there.

2817
02:38:44,643 --> 02:38:47,779
You know, for me, building this building with city

2818
02:38:47,779 --> 02:38:51,250
money, especially when we have no plan for that, we

2819
02:38:51,250 --> 02:38:55,870
don't know yet how we're going to spend that $5 million

2820
02:38:55,870 --> 02:38:58,924
or if we could even use it for something like this.

2821
02:38:58,924 --> 02:39:00,659
We just don't know that.

2822
02:39:00,659 --> 02:39:04,463
So to tear down anything to be shovel ready or anything

2823
02:39:04,463 --> 02:39:06,198
else just doesn't make sense.

2824
02:39:06,198 --> 02:39:09,434
And it doesn't matter if the buildings are useful for

2825
02:39:09,434 --> 02:39:11,360
us as a city now.

2826
02:39:11,360 --> 02:39:13,360
Like you mentioned.

2827
02:39:13,839 --> 02:39:15,540
We'd have to put things up to code.

2828
02:39:15,540 --> 02:39:17,676
But we don't need to do that.

2829
02:39:17,676 --> 02:39:20,312
We could just rent it to the people who are renting

2830
02:39:20,312 --> 02:39:22,247
them and we don't have to do anything.

2831
02:39:22,247 --> 02:39:25,784
We don't have to hire somebody to be there to maintain

2832
02:39:25,784 --> 02:39:26,451
the buildings.

2833
02:39:26,451 --> 02:39:29,221
Because the city manager told me we'd probably have to

2834
02:39:29,221 --> 02:39:31,423
hire two people if we built this building.

2835
02:39:31,423 --> 02:39:33,625
And you'd have to build that cost.

2836
02:39:33,625 --> 02:39:38,363
We're always talking about keeping government a little

2837
02:39:38,363 --> 02:39:41,300
smaller. Not getting too big.

2838
02:39:41,300 --> 02:39:43,902
You'd have to think about ongoing costs.

2839
02:39:43,902 --> 02:39:46,938
You would probably work in to your lease so people

2840
02:39:46,938 --> 02:39:48,473
could have more public access.

2841
02:39:48,473 --> 02:39:51,900
You could rearrange things out there.

2842
02:39:51,900 --> 02:39:52,911
You could still build a bathroom.

2843
02:39:52,911 --> 02:39:53,845
That's fine.

2844
02:39:53,845 --> 02:39:55,380
That would probably make everybody happy.

2845
02:39:55,380 --> 02:39:58,450
Plus, when you build the breakwater park, they are

2846
02:39:58,450 --> 02:40:00,819
going to get public access in there.

2847
02:40:00,819 --> 02:40:04,589
So to just be missing this little tiny piece when

2848
02:40:04,589 --> 02:40:07,993
you've got all of clam bayou, and potentially this

2849
02:40:07,993 --> 02:40:10,629
breakwater park whenever that financing comes through.

2850
02:40:10,629 --> 02:40:11,196
Again, I don't see it.

2851
02:40:11,196 --> 02:40:13,196
>> Okay.

2852
02:40:13,699 --> 02:40:15,699
Well --

2853
02:40:16,680 --> 02:40:17,769
[Applause]

2854
02:40:17,769 --> 02:40:23,769
>> raise your hands if you're not with the boat yacht

2855
02:40:25,210 --> 02:40:25,877
club?

2856
02:40:25,877 --> 02:40:30,115
So what do you need from us, city manager?

2857
02:40:30,115 --> 02:40:35,530
>> If there's a consensus of what you'd like to see us

2858
02:40:35,530 --> 02:40:36,288
move forward with?

2859
02:40:36,288 --> 02:40:39,758
We're at the point now where we've sent the

2860
02:40:39,758 --> 02:40:43,228
correspondence to the yacht club to move forward with

2861
02:40:43,228 --> 02:40:46,398
them to vacate the property in three months.

2862
02:40:46,398 --> 02:40:48,934
If you want to keep them on that tact.

2863
02:40:48,934 --> 02:40:53,405
Where do you want to go with the next level of looking

2864
02:40:53,405 --> 02:40:56,341
at funding, securing funding and package together to

2865
02:40:56,341 --> 02:40:57,750
start it.

2866
02:40:57,750 --> 02:41:00,645
We'll meet with the engineers and the architects this

2867
02:41:00,645 --> 02:41:05,384
week to get a cost analysis to see what funding we have

2868
02:41:05,384 --> 02:41:06,184
in place.

2869
02:41:06,184 --> 02:41:12,491
A lot of it as council member -- excuse me, vice mayor

2870
02:41:12,491 --> 02:41:18,230
Thanos spoke of in regards if you get the legislative

2871
02:41:18,230 --> 02:41:19,765
approp appropriation.

2872
02:41:19,765 --> 02:41:24,469
We could get moneys to start moving forward in the next

2873
02:41:24,469 --> 02:41:24,870
budget.

2874
02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:26,538
There's different mechanisms.

2875
02:41:26,538 --> 02:41:30,876
But I just want to know if you wanted to redevelop the

2876
02:41:30,876 --> 02:41:31,243
site.

2877
02:41:31,243 --> 02:41:36,882
>> If anybody wanted to, this has been since we did the

2878
02:41:36,882 --> 02:41:40,619
marina improvements six years back, can use the

2879
02:41:40,619 --> 02:41:43,422
multi-purpose room if you want to.

2880
02:41:43,422 --> 02:41:45,123
So we have another space available.

2881
02:41:45,123 --> 02:41:49,995
To me based on our discussion when you and I and the

2882
02:41:49,995 --> 02:41:54,320
city attorney discussed this, I'd like to jump in and

2883
02:41:54,320 --> 02:41:56,680
get started and do it.

2884
02:41:56,680 --> 02:41:59,237
Because there's, you know, I mean, I don't know why we

2885
02:41:59,237 --> 02:42:02,174
would want to piecemeal this thing out for five, six

2886
02:42:02,174 --> 02:42:02,441
years.

2887
02:42:02,441 --> 02:42:03,508
I say we do it.

2888
02:42:03,508 --> 02:42:04,643
We do it right.

2889
02:42:04,643 --> 02:42:07,120
>> But we don't have any money?

2890
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:08,847
>> But we're applying for the money.

2891
02:42:08,847 --> 02:42:10,847
[Applause]

2892
02:42:12,250 --> 02:42:15,320
>> do we not have money coming from both the rescue

2893
02:42:15,320 --> 02:42:15,587
act.

2894
02:42:15,587 --> 02:42:19,157
>> Yeah, but we haven't decided how we're going to use

2895
02:42:19,157 --> 02:42:20,792
the rescue act money yet.

2896
02:42:20,792 --> 02:42:22,794
>> This is part of that discussion.

2897
02:42:22,794 --> 02:42:25,970
We had one comment tonight that I mentioned putting

2898
02:42:25,970 --> 02:42:27,933
some of that money so that we could with the water

2899
02:42:27,933 --> 02:42:28,834
bills and the --

2900
02:42:28,834 --> 02:42:29,634
>> Yeah.

2901
02:42:29,634 --> 02:42:31,200
>> So let's continue.

2902
02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:35,730
>> What I'm asking is I don't think -- two issues are

2903
02:42:35,730 --> 02:42:36,141
getting confused.

2904
02:42:36,141 --> 02:42:39,770
You have the issue of their lease.

2905
02:42:39,770 --> 02:42:40,479
And it's been --

2906
02:42:40,479 --> 02:42:41,813
>> That's been voted on.

2907
02:42:41,813 --> 02:42:45,500
>> They put notice on -- they've received notice that

2908
02:42:45,500 --> 02:42:49,254
the city is not in a position to renew the lease.

2909
02:42:49,254 --> 02:42:51,654
Okay. That's one issue.

2910
02:42:52,757 --> 02:42:56,461
The second issue, does the city council want to have

2911
02:42:56,461 --> 02:42:59,764
direct staff to start drafting cost analysis and the

2912
02:42:59,764 --> 02:43:02,734
elements to move forward with the overall improvements

2913
02:43:02,734 --> 02:43:03,835
of the site?

2914
02:43:03,835 --> 02:43:05,337
>> All right.

2915
02:43:05,337 --> 02:43:07,339
>> These are two separate issues.

2916
02:43:07,339 --> 02:43:13,411
Because if you're not going to renew the lease -- if

2917
02:43:13,411 --> 02:43:18,811
you're intent is to entertain, to keep the building

2918
02:43:18,884 --> 02:43:24,284
there, then we would have to entertain negotiating some

2919
02:43:24,322 --> 02:43:26,322
type of lease.

2920
02:43:27,920 --> 02:43:31,530
What I don't want you to do if this is just

2921
02:43:31,530 --> 02:43:33,565
procrastinating and deferring the inevitable.

2922
02:43:33,565 --> 02:43:34,733
>> Exactly.

2923
02:43:34,733 --> 02:43:35,867
>> That's where I'm at.

2924
02:43:35,867 --> 02:43:38,570
If this is something you want to leave the building,

2925
02:43:38,570 --> 02:43:41,273
then we'll come up with a short-term lease and we'll

2926
02:43:41,273 --> 02:43:44,276
bring it back to council to vote it up or down.

2927
02:43:44,276 --> 02:43:46,676
Okay. That's one question.

2928
02:43:47,412 --> 02:43:53,412
The second question is, does the city want to improve

2929
02:43:53,752 --> 02:43:55,620
the marina area?

2930
02:43:55,620 --> 02:43:58,356
That's as generic as we need to be today.

2931
02:43:58,356 --> 02:44:02,661
I don't want to kwus the two. I mean, you understand

2932
02:44:02,661 --> 02:44:03,428
your point.

2933
02:44:03,428 --> 02:44:04,296
There's no money.

2934
02:44:04,296 --> 02:44:07,232
But we have to decide if we're going to do it.

2935
02:44:07,232 --> 02:44:09,968
How we're going to solicit funds or appropriate.

2936
02:44:09,968 --> 02:44:14,500
There's going to be a financial impact when we say, oh,

2937
02:44:14,500 --> 02:44:16,942
we're receiving $5 million from the rescue act.

2938
02:44:16,942 --> 02:44:21,446
We May spend $2 million of that on utilities and

2939
02:44:21,446 --> 02:44:21,880
revenue.

2940
02:44:21,880 --> 02:44:25,116
But we have to get that number.

2941
02:44:25,116 --> 02:44:29,916
It May cost $500,000 to put permius surface down.

2942
02:44:31,623 --> 02:44:33,592
Those are all things.

2943
02:44:33,592 --> 02:44:37,128
Where I need direction is do you want to improve the

2944
02:44:37,128 --> 02:44:37,762
marina area?

2945
02:44:37,762 --> 02:44:40,165
>> My answer is clearly yes.

2946
02:44:40,165 --> 02:44:44,350
We've done extremely well finding funding for things in

2947
02:44:44,350 --> 02:44:44,903
the past.

2948
02:44:44,903 --> 02:44:48,673
The brownfields money that we spent all over town.

2949
02:44:48,673 --> 02:44:50,475
But we can't just get money for nothing.

2950
02:44:50,475 --> 02:44:50,976
>> Right.

2951
02:44:50,976 --> 02:44:53,712
>> So we have to have a project in mind.

2952
02:44:53,712 --> 02:44:56,781
And I believe in the project and I think it's good.

2953
02:44:56,781 --> 02:44:58,450
We'll make it real easy on you.

2954
02:44:58,450 --> 02:45:00,885
Are you interested in moving forward with the marina?

2955
02:45:00,885 --> 02:45:01,453
>> I am.

2956
02:45:01,453 --> 02:45:03,755
>> I am as well.

2957
02:45:03,755 --> 02:45:06,858
>> I'm interested in looking at plans and such for the

2958
02:45:06,858 --> 02:45:09,361
future and what the cost is going to be.

2959
02:45:09,361 --> 02:45:12,831
But I'm still not going to -- I'm still not sold on

2960
02:45:12,831 --> 02:45:15,667
let's rip it all down in three months.

2961
02:45:15,667 --> 02:45:19,267
I think that's a wrong-headed idea.

2962
02:45:19,437 --> 02:45:24,542
>> We're not talking about ripping it all down in three

2963
02:45:24,542 --> 02:45:25,100
months.

2964
02:45:25,100 --> 02:45:28,790
We're talking the one building that the yacht club has

2965
02:45:28,790 --> 02:45:28,713
been in.

2966
02:45:28,713 --> 02:45:29,814
>> Shouldn't even do that.

2967
02:45:29,814 --> 02:45:31,616
We don't have the money or the plans.

2968
02:45:31,616 --> 02:45:32,717
I don't get it.

2969
02:45:32,717 --> 02:45:33,818
>> That's why --

2970
02:45:33,818 --> 02:45:35,320
>> I agree.

2971
02:45:35,320 --> 02:45:37,522
I would keep the yacht club there.

2972
02:45:37,522 --> 02:45:41,722
>> That's why I separated the question. Okay.

2973
02:45:43,128 --> 02:45:47,766
If council -- is there a consensus to council to start

2974
02:45:47,766 --> 02:45:49,734
moving on the project.

2975
02:45:49,734 --> 02:45:51,970
Is the first question.

2976
02:45:51,970 --> 02:45:53,838
Obviously --

2977
02:45:53,838 --> 02:45:57,709
does the council want to move on the marina area?

2978
02:45:57,709 --> 02:45:58,310
>> That's three.

2979
02:45:58,310 --> 02:46:02,280
>> Moving on the project doesn't necessarily mean

2980
02:46:02,280 --> 02:46:04,282
ripping down the building.

2981
02:46:04,282 --> 02:46:10,422
>> If I May, what I'm saying is if you're not going to

2982
02:46:10,422 --> 02:46:12,791
extend them, and they're leaving.

2983
02:46:12,791 --> 02:46:15,493
There's no purpose for that building.

2984
02:46:15,493 --> 02:46:17,893
If we move forward.

2985
02:46:17,996 --> 02:46:20,932
If council maintains its position today that they're

2986
02:46:20,932 --> 02:46:22,767
not granting a new lease.

2987
02:46:22,767 --> 02:46:24,767
That's the question.

2988
02:46:27,872 --> 02:46:30,875
If the building has no purpose for the city.

2989
02:46:30,875 --> 02:46:32,677
>> No, I get that.

2990
02:46:32,677 --> 02:46:34,813
>> If you're not renewing it.

2991
02:46:34,813 --> 02:46:38,413
If they're leaving July 1st --

2992
02:46:41,519 --> 02:46:43,519
June 30th.

2993
02:46:45,323 --> 02:46:48,793
Then that's a separate question than do you want to

2994
02:46:48,793 --> 02:46:51,930
move forward with the project at least design and

2995
02:46:51,930 --> 02:46:52,297
elements.

2996
02:46:52,297 --> 02:46:54,999
>> We already said it was 90-day.

2997
02:46:54,999 --> 02:46:56,468
>> We could still undo that.

2998
02:46:56,468 --> 02:46:58,203
We don't have to maintain that.

2999
02:46:58,203 --> 02:46:58,870
>> Sure.

3000
02:46:58,870 --> 02:46:59,704
>> We could.

3001
02:46:59,704 --> 02:47:01,439
I don't intend to.

3002
02:47:01,439 --> 02:47:03,641
>> But that's your vote.

3003
02:47:03,641 --> 02:47:04,309
>> Right.

3004
02:47:04,309 --> 02:47:04,709
>> Boo.

3005
02:47:04,709 --> 02:47:06,678
>> I'm agreeing with Paul.

3006
02:47:06,678 --> 02:47:12,383
If we were to ask the yacht club to leave now,and I

3007
02:47:12,383 --> 02:47:16,154
have to apologize for my vote last time.

3008
02:47:16,154 --> 02:47:17,789
They took me by surprise.

3009
02:47:17,789 --> 02:47:19,691
I would vote on that now.

3010
02:47:19,691 --> 02:47:20,391
>> You didn't.

3011
02:47:20,391 --> 02:47:23,828
>> But what I'm saying is if we're going to want to

3012
02:47:23,828 --> 02:47:26,965
rent to them in this new building, which I don't even

3013
02:47:26,965 --> 02:47:27,832
want to build.

3014
02:47:27,832 --> 02:47:31,703
But if we were going to rent to them in the new

3015
02:47:31,703 --> 02:47:35,206
building, why kick them out of the old build now when

3016
02:47:35,206 --> 02:47:38,409
you could build the new building first, and then move

3017
02:47:38,409 --> 02:47:39,430
them in.

3018
02:47:39,430 --> 02:47:42,280
Because otherwise, where are they going to go for the

3019
02:47:42,280 --> 02:47:44,516
year or two before that building's built?

3020
02:47:44,516 --> 02:47:49,916
>> The multi-purpose room in the marina, which I just

3021
02:47:50,188 --> 02:47:52,423
mentioned it's under utilized.

3022
02:47:52,423 --> 02:47:55,693
>> But then they'd have to store stuff.

3023
02:47:55,693 --> 02:47:59,597
And then it would be hard for others use it.

3024
02:47:59,597 --> 02:48:03,768
Do you want to exclusively rent that room to them?

3025
02:48:03,768 --> 02:48:04,436
>> No.

3026
02:48:04,436 --> 02:48:11,360
>> Then that's going to make it hard for them to keep

3027
02:48:11,776 --> 02:48:14,176
the club they are.

3028
02:48:14,212 --> 02:48:18,412
>> -- they can still keep using it.

3029
02:48:19,951 --> 02:48:23,870
If we left them where they are, built the new building,

3030
02:48:23,870 --> 02:48:26,491
if that's what we decide to do, then take it down and

3031
02:48:26,491 --> 02:48:28,193
let them move into the space.

3032
02:48:28,193 --> 02:48:29,227
>> Yes.

3033
02:48:29,227 --> 02:48:31,396
>> That makes way more sense to me.

3034
02:48:31,396 --> 02:48:32,664
If you're even going to do that.

3035
02:48:32,664 --> 02:48:32,797
The.

3036
02:48:32,797 --> 02:48:33,965
>> Point of order.

3037
02:48:33,965 --> 02:48:37,335
>> Point of order can only be made by members of the

3038
02:48:37,335 --> 02:48:37,602
board.

3039
02:48:37,602 --> 02:48:40,505
>> The order of the agenda tonight was --

3040
02:48:40,505 --> 02:48:42,273
>> There will be public comment.

3041
02:48:42,273 --> 02:48:43,875
But we haven't gotten there yet.

3042
02:48:43,875 --> 02:48:44,609
>> Good.

3043
02:48:44,609 --> 02:48:45,476
I just wanted clarification.

3044
02:48:45,476 --> 02:48:46,845
And it's going to be on this.

3045
02:48:46,845 --> 02:48:51,182
We're not having a rehash of what's already been said.

3046
02:48:51,182 --> 02:48:56,200
>> So we'll have a chance to speak after you speak, is

3047
02:48:56,200 --> 02:48:56,855
that correct?

3048
02:48:56,855 --> 02:48:57,889
>> Yes.

3049
02:48:57,889 --> 02:48:58,490
>> Good.

3050
02:48:58,490 --> 02:48:59,991
>> Are you finished?

3051
02:48:59,991 --> 02:49:00,825
>> Yes.

3052
02:49:00,825 --> 02:49:05,290
>> I understand at pancake breakfast that there was

3053
02:49:05,290 --> 02:49:08,766
talk of the club using the lions club.

3054
02:49:08,766 --> 02:49:10,602
I was told they're in discussions.

3055
02:49:10,602 --> 02:49:12,837
So they have a place to go.

3056
02:49:12,837 --> 02:49:15,507
I got it from a yacht club member.

3057
02:49:15,507 --> 02:49:19,978
So there is a place and it's only a few hundred feet

3058
02:49:19,978 --> 02:49:20,345
way.

3059
02:49:20,345 --> 02:49:21,579
>> That hasn't been brought up.

3060
02:49:21,579 --> 02:49:22,413
I didn't know that.

3061
02:49:22,413 --> 02:49:23,414
>> Okay.

3062
02:49:23,414 --> 02:49:26,918
So it's not the only yacht club in South Florida then?

3063
02:49:26,918 --> 02:49:28,918
>> Right.

3064
02:49:29,200 --> 02:49:30,255
>> Okay.

3065
02:49:30,255 --> 02:49:31,890
Any other council comments or questions?

3066
02:49:31,890 --> 02:49:35,126
>> Shouldn't we wait to hear public comment before we

3067
02:49:35,126 --> 02:49:36,394
make our final decision?

3068
02:49:36,394 --> 02:49:41,650
>> I think they need to know what we're leaning toward

3069
02:49:41,650 --> 02:49:44,680
and then they can make public comment.

3070
02:49:44,680 --> 02:49:44,836
>> --

3071
02:49:44,836 --> 02:49:46,604
>> My opinion is --

3072
02:49:46,604 --> 02:49:52,400
>> We'll go with a show of hands. You, sir.

3073
02:49:59,951 --> 02:50:00,919
>> Thank you, council.

3074
02:50:00,919 --> 02:50:04,550
It's a pleasure to be here.

3075
02:50:04,550 --> 02:50:09,827
I wanted to share a little bit with you about my

3076
02:50:09,827 --> 02:50:11,930
concerns about this project.

3077
02:50:11,930 --> 02:50:17,330
We moved to the Gulfport marina district seeking quiet

3078
02:50:17,869 --> 02:50:20,869
residential enjoyment of our property.

3079
02:50:21,139 --> 02:50:25,977
I have a number of objections and concerns about this

3080
02:50:25,977 --> 02:50:26,444
proposal.

3081
02:50:26,444 --> 02:50:30,548
For one, the plan in my opinion is obsolete.

3082
02:50:30,548 --> 02:50:34,652
It's a five-year-old plan by a focus group that

3083
02:50:34,652 --> 02:50:36,454
operated five years ago.

3084
02:50:36,454 --> 02:50:40,491
The turnover in Gulfport is such that new residents

3085
02:50:40,491 --> 02:50:41,826
have flooded in.

3086
02:50:41,826 --> 02:50:42,694
Old residents have left.

3087
02:50:42,694 --> 02:50:45,940
It's a new day.

3088
02:50:49,330 --> 02:50:56,233
My second concern is this plan as I look at it, even

3089
02:51:02,800 --> 02:51:07,480
with permeable services for the water to go through.

3090
02:51:11,856 --> 02:51:13,391
Not asphalt.

3091
02:51:13,391 --> 02:51:16,260
Because right now we have an asphalt jungle.

3092
02:51:16,260 --> 02:51:17,462
So that was good.

3093
02:51:17,462 --> 02:51:17,962
Good job.

3094
02:51:17,962 --> 02:51:23,962
However, when I look at the footprint of this permeable

3095
02:51:24,936 --> 02:51:30,336
surface, and the amount of parking for this permeable

3096
02:51:31,209 --> 02:51:34,809
surface, this causes me great concern.

3097
02:51:35,380 --> 02:51:40,510
When I heard the presentation by the marina, and what

3098
02:51:40,510 --> 02:51:44,756
I've heard so far from this council is the concerns

3099
02:51:44,756 --> 02:51:46,624
completely around the marina.

3100
02:51:46,624 --> 02:51:50,528
What about the Gulfport marina district residents?

3101
02:51:50,528 --> 02:51:52,528
What about them?

3102
02:51:54,165 --> 02:51:59,565
Has there been any mention, any consideration in this

3103
02:52:00,671 --> 02:52:05,471
plan about traffic, not anything that I've seen.

3104
02:52:06,477 --> 02:52:11,115
Have you thought about how it's going to impact the

3105
02:52:11,115 --> 02:52:16,220
people who live down near the marina when you put 50

3106
02:52:16,220 --> 02:52:19,924
something long boat spaces over this new permeable

3107
02:52:19,924 --> 02:52:20,358
surface.

3108
02:52:20,358 --> 02:52:24,558
Over 100 new parking spots for new cars.

3109
02:52:25,596 --> 02:52:28,990
Where's all this traffic gonna go?

3110
02:52:28,990 --> 02:52:30,368
How's it going to be handled?

3111
02:52:30,368 --> 02:52:33,771
You're going to ram it down dell reeio?

3112
02:52:33,771 --> 02:52:37,575
You're going to ram it down Coronado?

3113
02:52:37,575 --> 02:52:38,976
Have you thought about this?

3114
02:52:38,976 --> 02:52:39,277
Anybody?

3115
02:52:39,277 --> 02:52:42,877
No, it's all about the marina.

3116
02:52:43,140 --> 02:52:45,450
It's not thinking for the bigger picture.

3117
02:52:45,450 --> 02:52:47,585
It's not thinking for the community.

3118
02:52:47,585 --> 02:52:51,823
It's not thinking for the residents who come to seek

3119
02:52:51,823 --> 02:52:54,358
quiet enjoyment of their residential neighborhood.

3120
02:52:54,358 --> 02:52:58,262
We could have bought a place over by, you know, beach

3121
02:52:58,262 --> 02:52:59,970
street or --

3122
02:52:59,970 --> 02:53:00,698
>> Thank you, sir.

3123
02:53:00,698 --> 02:53:02,500
>> Okay. Thank you.

3124
02:53:02,500 --> 02:53:03,301
I made my point.

3125
02:53:03,301 --> 02:53:05,301
>> Yes.

3126
02:53:16,614 --> 02:53:21,414
>> Jonathan Cornwell, I live in Gulfport for three

3127
02:53:21,719 --> 02:53:22,286
years.

3128
02:53:22,286 --> 02:53:28,259
On March 16th, this council said that the reason for

3129
02:53:28,259 --> 02:53:34,232
evicting bcyc was that you had a shovel ready project.

3130
02:53:34,232 --> 02:53:37,902
That's quote that I've watched the tape many times.

3131
02:53:37,902 --> 02:53:38,970
Shovel ready.

3132
02:53:38,970 --> 02:53:42,173
But then tonight we've learned this is just concept.

3133
02:53:42,173 --> 02:53:44,775
Which also was repeated several times.

3134
02:53:44,775 --> 02:53:45,910
I'm confused.

3135
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:46,410
Which stands?

3136
02:53:46,410 --> 02:53:49,410
Because both can't be true.

3137
02:53:50,810 --> 02:53:53,718
Is it a shovel-ready project or is it just concept that

3138
02:53:53,718 --> 02:53:55,786
we're going to work through further?

3139
02:53:55,786 --> 02:53:59,757
Now, if it is a shovel-ready project, I can certainly

3140
02:53:59,757 --> 02:54:00,925
understand the urgency.

3141
02:54:00,925 --> 02:54:03,594
But I don't see that because there are plenty of

3142
02:54:03,594 --> 02:54:05,463
details that need to be worked out.

3143
02:54:05,463 --> 02:54:09,433
If it's just a concept, I'm here to tell you that one

3144
02:54:09,433 --> 02:54:13,704
of the great lies in all of this is that bcyc would be

3145
02:54:13,704 --> 02:54:15,373
opposed to the marina improvement.

3146
02:54:15,373 --> 02:54:20,511
And point of fact, I as one of the many leaders in our

3147
02:54:20,511 --> 02:54:23,281
organization would be very much interested in

3148
02:54:23,281 --> 02:54:26,851
participating in a dialogue to make sure this property

3149
02:54:26,851 --> 02:54:28,520
helps all stakeholders.

3150
02:54:28,520 --> 02:54:32,123
Everyone in the club has realized for years that it is

3151
02:54:32,123 --> 02:54:32,490
deficient.

3152
02:54:32,490 --> 02:54:35,159
And you're right, people should be able to enjoy that

3153
02:54:35,159 --> 02:54:36,494
lovely view that we have.

3154
02:54:36,494 --> 02:54:37,562
But you know what?

3155
02:54:37,562 --> 02:54:41,232
One of the other lies that is involved in all this is

3156
02:54:41,232 --> 02:54:43,701
this idea that somehow we control that space.

3157
02:54:43,701 --> 02:54:48,206
Since 2007, when the city took over the leasing both

3158
02:54:48,206 --> 02:54:53,144
the wet and the dry slips, and the first non-bcyc club

3159
02:54:53,144 --> 02:54:57,215
member rented a dry slip, that property became under

3160
02:54:57,215 --> 02:55:02,153
the sole control of the city in terms of liability to

3161
02:55:02,153 --> 02:55:04,856
all people there on the property.

3162
02:55:04,856 --> 02:55:08,593
The bottom line is, it has always been the city who has

3163
02:55:08,593 --> 02:55:10,161
been in control of that.

3164
02:55:10,161 --> 02:55:15,132
If you wanted access, then you as the city could have

3165
02:55:15,132 --> 02:55:16,467
made that happen.

3166
02:55:16,467 --> 02:55:20,370
And honestly, a conversation could have been had long

3167
02:55:20,370 --> 02:55:22,406
ago to have solved that problem.

3168
02:55:22,406 --> 02:55:26,944
One last point I want to make is that this idea that

3169
02:55:26,944 --> 02:55:30,715
we're holding the boy scouts, or the sea scouts hostage

3170
02:55:30,715 --> 02:55:31,482
is bunk.

3171
02:55:31,482 --> 02:55:34,719
The bottom line is that it is an activity that requires

3172
02:55:34,719 --> 02:55:37,388
people, lots of support from people and lots of

3173
02:55:37,388 --> 02:55:38,556
equipment that is specialized.

3174
02:55:38,556 --> 02:55:41,192
It requires people who are very interested in sailing.

3175
02:55:41,192 --> 02:55:47,640
And you're not going to just conjure that up out of the

3176
02:55:47,640 --> 02:55:47,632
air.

3177
02:55:47,632 --> 02:55:50,368
We weren't holding it hostage. We were simply noting

3178
02:55:50,368 --> 02:55:53,738
that if we're not there to support it, it will struggle

3179
02:55:53,738 --> 02:55:56,474
because there are few human body replacements to make

3180
02:55:56,474 --> 02:55:57,740
it work.

3181
02:55:57,740 --> 02:56:01,279
And you are not going to conjure that with a budget,

3182
02:56:01,279 --> 02:56:03,547
with federal grant funds. Thank you.

3183
02:56:03,547 --> 02:56:05,547
>> Who is next?

3184
02:56:07,785 --> 02:56:12,623
>> Mr. Mayor, I commend you for controlling the meeting

3185
02:56:12,623 --> 02:56:13,900
tonight.

3186
02:56:13,900 --> 02:56:16,994
Usually with public comment at the beginning people are

3187
02:56:16,994 --> 02:56:20,898
encouraged to speak on items not on the agenda.

3188
02:56:20,898 --> 02:56:25,903
And so you graciously let bycc talk about the marina

3189
02:56:25,903 --> 02:56:26,404
issue.

3190
02:56:26,404 --> 02:56:29,440
Now they're getting a second bite of the apple.

3191
02:56:29,440 --> 02:56:36,800
You do have the right on a large group to have them

3192
02:56:36,800 --> 02:56:41,652
designate a spokesperson so that you don't have to hear

3193
02:56:41,652 --> 02:56:44,422
everything reitated all over again.

3194
02:56:44,422 --> 02:56:47,792
And I respectfully request that you take a moment and

3195
02:56:47,792 --> 02:56:50,828
consider that option for the rest of the meeting.

3196
02:56:50,828 --> 02:56:51,228
Thank you.

3197
02:56:51,228 --> 02:56:52,290
>> I appreciate it.

3198
02:56:52,290 --> 02:56:58,629
I do want to make sure everyone gets to speak. Yes.

3199
02:57:03,574 --> 02:57:07,411
>> Thank you for the opportunity to comment, again.

3200
02:57:07,411 --> 02:57:10,411
George Anderson voting Gulfport resident.

3201
02:57:15,353 --> 02:57:19,557
I'd like to just comment. Where is the money coming

3202
02:57:19,557 --> 02:57:19,957
from?

3203
02:57:19,957 --> 02:57:25,596
As a Gulfport resident, I want to know if this

3204
02:57:25,596 --> 02:57:31,202
governing body is actually being a good steward of my

3205
02:57:31,202 --> 02:57:34,572
interest as an individual Gulfport resident.

3206
02:57:34,572 --> 02:57:38,609
I'd also like to know if we're not -- following up on

3207
02:57:38,609 --> 02:57:42,279
the last comments from the vice mayor, when are we

3208
02:57:42,279 --> 02:57:45,583
going to have the public discussion on this planned

3209
02:57:45,583 --> 02:57:46,751
marina?

3210
02:57:46,751 --> 02:57:51,489
I for one, also am in favor of marina development.

3211
02:57:51,489 --> 02:57:54,725
I'm not saying that it should be limited.

3212
02:57:54,725 --> 02:58:00,725
I'm saying we don't have an intelligent plan in place

3213
02:58:00,731 --> 02:58:06,131
that tells what's the debits and what's the credit.

3214
02:58:06,170 --> 02:58:08,506
The bottom line is where's the beef?

3215
02:58:08,506 --> 02:58:10,441
What's the money coming that's driving this?

3216
02:58:10,441 --> 02:58:12,243
I don't understand this.

3217
02:58:12,243 --> 02:58:18,843
And I think that this has been just ram roaded --

3218
02:58:19,216 --> 02:58:22,816
railroaded through without the public hearings.

3219
02:58:27,191 --> 02:58:29,126
Where's the public hearings?

3220
02:58:29,126 --> 02:58:30,461
Where's an up to date plan?

3221
02:58:30,461 --> 02:58:36,461
One of the things this gentleman brought up, this was

3222
02:58:38,235 --> 02:58:43,635
our Gulfport character continues to evolve as more and

3223
02:58:45,209 --> 02:58:50,609
more people, older people move out and younger people

3224
02:58:52,216 --> 02:58:53,751
move in.

3225
02:58:53,751 --> 02:58:56,620
I don't think there's been an airing of that.

3226
02:58:56,620 --> 02:58:59,590
It was brought up not because you're going to evict the

3227
02:58:59,590 --> 02:59:00,124
sea scouts.

3228
02:59:00,124 --> 02:59:05,296
But we're not going to be there to provide the human

3229
02:59:05,296 --> 02:59:09,660
support, the leadership, and the equipment and repair

3230
02:59:09,660 --> 02:59:13,771
facilities and so on like that, that all of the

3231
02:59:13,771 --> 02:59:17,508
volunteers that make this project -- this sea scouts

3232
02:59:17,508 --> 02:59:18,275
work.

3233
02:59:18,275 --> 02:59:19,310
Thank you very much.

3234
02:59:19,310 --> 02:59:21,212
>> Who is next?

3235
02:59:21,212 --> 02:59:21,712
Yes.

3236
02:59:21,712 --> 02:59:25,683
Light blue shirt on the left. Your right.

3237
02:59:25,683 --> 02:59:26,116
>> Me?

3238
02:59:26,116 --> 02:59:28,116
>> Yup. Yup.

3239
02:59:30,154 --> 02:59:32,356
And right after he goes.

3240
02:59:32,356 --> 02:59:34,756
>> My name is Bob.

3241
02:59:34,859 --> 02:59:37,259
I'm at 5626 25th south.

3242
02:59:38,929 --> 02:59:41,232
I'm a past corridor and current member of the yacht

3243
02:59:41,232 --> 02:59:41,465
club.

3244
02:59:41,465 --> 02:59:44,301
I just want to talk in general.

3245
02:59:44,301 --> 02:59:48,720
First off, we've been around since 1938, as been

3246
02:59:48,720 --> 02:59:48,906
mentioned before.

3247
02:59:48,906 --> 02:59:51,475
We've had a good cooperative relationship with the city

3248
02:59:51,475 --> 02:59:53,744
and we really appreciate that over the years.

3249
02:59:53,744 --> 02:59:57,948
I'd also just like to point out that we also had a

3250
02:59:57,948 --> 03:00:00,718
cooperative relationship with the lions club and yacht

3251
03:00:00,718 --> 03:00:01,850
club.

3252
03:00:01,850 --> 03:00:05,823
I think it's a good blend of organizations that use

3253
03:00:05,823 --> 03:00:06,757
that space.

3254
03:00:06,757 --> 03:00:10,357
We're different types of yacht club.

3255
03:00:11,228 --> 03:00:15,232
Gulfport yacht club is a racing club.

3256
03:00:15,232 --> 03:00:20,371
Boca Boca does a lot of things for the youth.

3257
03:00:20,371 --> 03:00:22,771
I'm a sea scout.

3258
03:00:23,474 --> 03:00:27,111
I'm glad to hear that they want to keep the sea scouts.

3259
03:00:27,111 --> 03:00:28,812
I am concerned about leadership.

3260
03:00:28,812 --> 03:00:32,716
I've also worked for the boy scouts for five years.

3261
03:00:32,716 --> 03:00:37,288
I know that getting the volunteers has always been the

3262
03:00:37,288 --> 03:00:39,123
biggest challenge of organizations.

3263
03:00:39,123 --> 03:00:43,427
The units that didn't last were the ones that didn't

3264
03:00:43,427 --> 03:00:46,300
have support from volunteers running organizations.

3265
03:00:46,300 --> 03:00:51,769
I've got a couple of concerns about just the way things

3266
03:00:51,769 --> 03:00:53,337
are moving forward.

3267
03:00:53,337 --> 03:00:57,700
I've been here for a long time in Gulfport.

3268
03:00:57,700 --> 03:00:59,443
I didn't make it to those previous meetings.

3269
03:00:59,443 --> 03:01:02,212
I do have a can earn that anything moving forward

3270
03:01:02,212 --> 03:01:03,130
should be direct.

3271
03:01:03,130 --> 03:01:07,151
The stakeholders should be directly invited to those

3272
03:01:07,151 --> 03:01:07,685
meetings.

3273
03:01:07,685 --> 03:01:09,853
Not just a public notice.

3274
03:01:09,853 --> 03:01:13,223
But directly invited to these meetings and there's

3275
03:01:13,223 --> 03:01:14,158
clear communications.

3276
03:01:14,158 --> 03:01:18,462
And I have concern, also, about the funding for this.

3277
03:01:18,462 --> 03:01:22,266
I do not believe that any relief money should support

3278
03:01:22,266 --> 03:01:25,669
any capital improvements in the city. That is supposed

3279
03:01:25,669 --> 03:01:29,473
to be relief money to support the people that were

3280
03:01:29,473 --> 03:01:31,800
affected by this pandemic.

3281
03:01:31,800 --> 03:01:33,410
Which I know is a lot of people.

3282
03:01:33,410 --> 03:01:34,511
A lot of concerns.

3283
03:01:34,511 --> 03:01:38,282
And so I don't believe that any money from that should

3284
03:01:38,282 --> 03:01:40,170
be spent on capital improvements.

3285
03:01:40,170 --> 03:01:41,652
I would like to see a budget.

3286
03:01:41,652 --> 03:01:44,989
I don't think it's appropriate to make a movement to go

3287
03:01:44,989 --> 03:01:45,322
forward.

3288
03:01:45,322 --> 03:01:48,792
I mean, if you're going to do a $2,000 study or

3289
03:01:48,792 --> 03:01:50,694
something like that is one thing.

3290
03:01:50,694 --> 03:01:55,165
I don't believe that we should be making these big

3291
03:01:55,165 --> 03:01:57,868
plans without having the money available.

3292
03:01:57,868 --> 03:02:01,705
I know that there's talk about space available for

3293
03:02:01,705 --> 03:02:02,106
clubs.

3294
03:02:02,106 --> 03:02:05,743
There is a concern about will we have our own dedicated

3295
03:02:05,743 --> 03:02:08,345
space because there's, you know, we have equipment.

3296
03:02:08,345 --> 03:02:09,713
We have other things.

3297
03:02:09,713 --> 03:02:12,816
Is there a dedicated space or just a special space

3298
03:02:12,816 --> 03:02:14,685
people can use for their meetings.

3299
03:02:14,685 --> 03:02:19,423
I think there's a lot of concerns that people have to

3300
03:02:19,423 --> 03:02:19,857
address.

3301
03:02:19,857 --> 03:02:21,892
I think overall it's a good plan.

3302
03:02:21,892 --> 03:02:23,927
I think we could probably get behind it.

3303
03:02:23,927 --> 03:02:27,398
But I think it's premature to make a decision to work

3304
03:02:27,398 --> 03:02:29,300
on moving forward with this plan.

3305
03:02:29,300 --> 03:02:29,867
Thank you.

3306
03:02:29,867 --> 03:02:34,667
>> I told this gentleman he would be next.

3307
03:02:36,640 --> 03:02:38,640
>> Good evening, council.

3308
03:02:39,677 --> 03:02:42,677
My name is Chuck kitschler.

3309
03:02:46,884 --> 03:02:49,186
I'm glad the plan recognizes the residents, the

3310
03:02:49,186 --> 03:02:50,540
community, the foundation.

3311
03:02:50,540 --> 03:02:54,591
The respect and coexistence and the access to the bay

3312
03:02:54,591 --> 03:02:55,492
are critical.

3313
03:02:55,492 --> 03:02:56,827
The changes are inevitable.

3314
03:02:56,827 --> 03:02:59,630
And the changes must be guided by wisdom.

3315
03:02:59,630 --> 03:03:03,133
I'd also like to thank the yacht club and lions club

3316
03:03:03,133 --> 03:03:05,703
for being a positive force and good neighbors.

3317
03:03:05,703 --> 03:03:09,173
And I hope they continue to be part of Gulfport.

3318
03:03:09,173 --> 03:03:12,476
I sincerely hope the plans allow the marina to remain a

3319
03:03:12,476 --> 03:03:13,770
good neighbor.

3320
03:03:13,770 --> 03:03:16,213
But I see some challenges and I ask that the city work

3321
03:03:16,213 --> 03:03:17,247
with the neighborhood residents.

3322
03:03:17,247 --> 03:03:19,383
I am one of them.

3323
03:03:19,383 --> 03:03:25,522
At this point I am concerned that we and you as a

3324
03:03:25,522 --> 03:03:29,930
representatives, specifically, I want to know Christine

3325
03:03:29,930 --> 03:03:33,664
Brown, who is the representative for our area, consider

3326
03:03:33,664 --> 03:03:36,734
the concerns of the neighborhood residents.

3327
03:03:36,734 --> 03:03:40,537
And consider the changes in local and environmental

3328
03:03:40,537 --> 03:03:42,940
changes at the global level.

3329
03:03:42,940 --> 03:03:48,178
In Gulfport in 2019 fiscal report, it says the economic

3330
03:03:48,178 --> 03:03:52,883
base of the city of Gulfport is primarily residential

3331
03:03:52,883 --> 03:03:54,451
with limited areas.

3332
03:03:54,451 --> 03:03:58,655
Is the marina an effort to change this?

3333
03:03:58,655 --> 03:04:03,600
I'm concerned the plans May not be best for the

3334
03:04:03,600 --> 03:04:04,828
residents living here now.

3335
03:04:04,828 --> 03:04:09,628
When I looked at Zillow, 518 properties have been

3336
03:04:10,834 --> 03:04:11,502
purchased.

3337
03:04:11,502 --> 03:04:15,272
In the last 36 months, 1300 properties have been sold.

3338
03:04:15,272 --> 03:04:18,872
And a substantial number of rentals.

3339
03:04:19,510 --> 03:04:23,710
One might extrapolate that several residents in

3340
03:04:23,981 --> 03:04:29,981
Gulfport are new and were not prioritized to this plan.

3341
03:04:30,354 --> 03:04:34,240
Increased storms and increase sea -- birds, fish and

3342
03:04:34,240 --> 03:04:36,994
wildlife and increase sunny day flooding.

3343
03:04:36,994 --> 03:04:42,394
I often joke with friends that Gulfport floods as

3344
03:04:43,133 --> 03:04:46,133
someone drops their big gulp.

3345
03:04:46,570 --> 03:04:48,939
I was glad to hear it was permeable.

3346
03:04:48,939 --> 03:04:49,840
That's a nice change.

3347
03:04:49,840 --> 03:04:51,642
It's not in the document, though.

3348
03:04:51,642 --> 03:04:55,842
Decreased amounts of vegetation, disruption of nesting

3349
03:04:56,413 --> 03:04:57,800
birds.

3350
03:04:57,800 --> 03:05:00,150
Does not provide sufficient privacy buffer for

3351
03:05:00,150 --> 03:05:00,584
neighborhood.

3352
03:05:00,584 --> 03:05:02,853
Increased auto traffic, increased sewage, increased

3353
03:05:02,853 --> 03:05:05,122
load on the stressed sewer system.

3354
03:05:05,122 --> 03:05:08,625
Not clear how the lighting is going to be so that it

3355
03:05:08,625 --> 03:05:10,961
doesn't blind people on the bay and neighborhoods.

3356
03:05:10,961 --> 03:05:14,598
How do you have a kayak launch and playground and not

3357
03:05:14,598 --> 03:05:16,600
have kids swimming on the beach?

3358
03:05:16,600 --> 03:05:20,804
Are you going to allow power boats on all the ramps or

3359
03:05:20,804 --> 03:05:21,505
just some?

3360
03:05:21,505 --> 03:05:26,109
Can you imagine a facility with 1400 square feet --

3361
03:05:26,109 --> 03:05:28,109
14,000 square feet.

3362
03:05:28,145 --> 03:05:30,714
They all drive and park their trailers, then try to get

3363
03:05:30,714 --> 03:05:31,615
out of their cars.

3364
03:05:31,615 --> 03:05:33,383
It's going to be a mess.

3365
03:05:33,383 --> 03:05:37,888
We'd like a better future, we like access, but we need

3366
03:05:37,888 --> 03:05:39,523
to work it out.

3367
03:05:39,523 --> 03:05:40,757
>> Thank you.

3368
03:05:40,757 --> 03:05:42,159
Yes, I believe you're next up.

3369
03:05:42,159 --> 03:05:46,959
Remember, we are talking about the marina plan.

3370
03:05:47,798 --> 03:05:51,398
>> Yes, I'm Richard Walters, 2900 40 street south.

3371
03:05:54,571 --> 03:05:57,875
I don't think anybody in the council is a sailor from

3372
03:05:57,875 --> 03:05:58,775
what I understand.

3373
03:05:58,775 --> 03:05:59,910
Okay, I'm sorry.

3374
03:05:59,910 --> 03:06:00,477
Okay.

3375
03:06:00,477 --> 03:06:02,946
There's some things in this plan that are missing

3376
03:06:02,946 --> 03:06:03,480
certain things.

3377
03:06:03,480 --> 03:06:06,683
You gotta realize we have an adult sail school.

3378
03:06:06,683 --> 03:06:10,854
So if you really want to keep bcyc in the area, we have

3379
03:06:10,854 --> 03:06:15,250
boats that need to have a lift crane to put them in the

3380
03:06:15,250 --> 03:06:15,359
water.

3381
03:06:15,359 --> 03:06:18,295
I noticed your beach area, the Gulfport yacht club

3382
03:06:18,295 --> 03:06:21,598
people, our neighbors that are friends of ours, I don't

3383
03:06:21,598 --> 03:06:24,534
see the area where they'd be keeping their boats.

3384
03:06:24,534 --> 03:06:29,539
Also, we have a lot of other club boats that have

3385
03:06:29,539 --> 03:06:29,973
masts.

3386
03:06:29,973 --> 03:06:32,976
So you can't put these club boats that have masts

3387
03:06:32,976 --> 03:06:35,345
underneath this building that you want to build.

3388
03:06:35,345 --> 03:06:42,545
So you're going to have to build quite a bit of space

3389
03:06:43,754 --> 03:06:45,122
for masts.

3390
03:06:45,122 --> 03:06:47,391
Develop the club in to small boat programs.

3391
03:06:47,391 --> 03:06:51,962
We would like to stay in the city and we'd like to stay

3392
03:06:51,962 --> 03:06:54,798
in the community as we've been since 1965.

3393
03:06:54,798 --> 03:06:55,232
Okay.

3394
03:06:55,232 --> 03:06:58,101
So will this common building that you want to build,

3395
03:06:58,101 --> 03:07:01,238
sounds like it's going to be a for rent time space

3396
03:07:01,238 --> 03:07:01,538
building.

3397
03:07:01,538 --> 03:07:04,241
We won't be able to personalize it like our clubhouse

3398
03:07:04,241 --> 03:07:05,420
is right now.

3399
03:07:05,420 --> 03:07:09,179
So it's going to be a dark, dank, big room that no one

3400
03:07:09,179 --> 03:07:11,114
can put any personalized items in.

3401
03:07:11,114 --> 03:07:15,519
Have any of you -- I know some of you have been in our

3402
03:07:15,519 --> 03:07:16,530
clubhouse.

3403
03:07:16,530 --> 03:07:17,220
Some of you May not have.

3404
03:07:17,220 --> 03:07:22,526
When you walk in that, do you feel like it's an old

3405
03:07:22,526 --> 03:07:25,162
school, old Florida type of club?

3406
03:07:25,162 --> 03:07:28,398
Does it sound pretentious to you when you walk in it?

3407
03:07:28,398 --> 03:07:30,968
No, we don't even have air conditioning in it.

3408
03:07:30,968 --> 03:07:34,671
We are a working person, working man's club.

3409
03:07:34,671 --> 03:07:38,508
And people, we support -- a lot of our members support

3410
03:07:38,508 --> 03:07:39,743
the sea scouts.

3411
03:07:39,743 --> 03:07:42,479
Like someone said, it takes a lot of equipment and a

3412
03:07:42,479 --> 03:07:43,981
lot of bodies to support them.

3413
03:07:43,981 --> 03:07:48,518
So it's not going to be so easy to disrupt our club and

3414
03:07:48,518 --> 03:07:52,356
move us out and remain for us to support the club.

3415
03:07:52,356 --> 03:07:57,156
So I think you're getting $2,000 a month now.

3416
03:07:58,610 --> 03:08:01,131
If you want some public access, take the fence down.

3417
03:08:01,131 --> 03:08:02,966
Let people come in.

3418
03:08:02,966 --> 03:08:07,400
Let us secure our buildings so that we don't have

3419
03:08:07,400 --> 03:08:09,840
everyone walking in and out of it.

3420
03:08:09,840 --> 03:08:11,942
And they can come in and use it.

3421
03:08:11,942 --> 03:08:14,911
The majority of the property you want to open to the

3422
03:08:14,911 --> 03:08:16,546
public is still a private marina.

3423
03:08:16,546 --> 03:08:21,718
I pay over $300 to keep my boat in that basin, I don't

3424
03:08:21,718 --> 03:08:23,687
want people on the dock.

3425
03:08:23,687 --> 03:08:25,822
Also the dry storage needs to be secure.

3426
03:08:25,822 --> 03:08:29,192
So this amount of area you want to open to the public

3427
03:08:29,192 --> 03:08:30,594
is less than two acres.

3428
03:08:30,594 --> 03:08:32,362
Probably less than one acre.

3429
03:08:32,362 --> 03:08:33,663
Other than the point park.

3430
03:08:33,663 --> 03:08:35,532
You're not shovel ready.

3431
03:08:35,532 --> 03:08:38,735
There's no sense of displacing a club that's been in

3432
03:08:38,735 --> 03:08:41,304
that location for that long at this moment.

3433
03:08:41,304 --> 03:08:42,639
So please think this out.

3434
03:08:42,639 --> 03:08:43,974
Think it through.

3435
03:08:43,974 --> 03:08:45,242
>> Who is next?

3436
03:08:45,242 --> 03:08:47,677
Yes, ma'am, in the front.

3437
03:08:47,677 --> 03:08:50,770
I haven't forgotten you.

3438
03:09:10,901 --> 03:09:13,236
>> I sit and look at the yacht club.

3439
03:09:13,236 --> 03:09:21,360
How many of you want me to be part of your yacht club?

3440
03:09:23,413 --> 03:09:26,283
>> This is exactly what I'm talking about.

3441
03:09:26,283 --> 03:09:26,650
>> --

3442
03:09:26,650 --> 03:09:28,618
>> Let her speak, please.

3443
03:09:28,618 --> 03:09:30,618
>> Excuse me.

3444
03:09:33,857 --> 03:09:39,857
I belong to several fishing clubs in the Tampa Bay

3445
03:10:02,886 --> 03:10:04,886
area.

3446
03:10:51,268 --> 03:10:54,400
>> It's not dinner and a show.

3447
03:10:54,400 --> 03:10:59,404
We're trying to give people a chance to speak.

3448
03:11:06,516 --> 03:11:08,516
>> I'm Elizabeth Hendrix.

3449
03:11:10,530 --> 03:11:17,253
I think April Thanos idea is good to allow bcy to stay

3450
03:11:19,290 --> 03:11:21,290
in the building.

3451
03:11:21,264 --> 03:11:25,202
It's in a spot so it can certainly be handled.

3452
03:11:25,202 --> 03:11:30,440
What Richard spoke about the equipment of the club, we

3453
03:11:30,440 --> 03:11:33,577
have a lift through six capris.

3454
03:11:33,577 --> 03:11:38,377
There's about 60 sun fish, there's dingies, boats on

3455
03:11:38,715 --> 03:11:43,515
trailers, a tool room, 15 kayaks, 10 paddle boards, a

3456
03:11:44,454 --> 03:11:50,193
library with all kinds of books, a kitchen, and patio

3457
03:11:50,193 --> 03:11:50,760
furniture.

3458
03:11:50,760 --> 03:11:51,661
It's not simple.

3459
03:11:51,661 --> 03:11:54,664
It's not the people can go use another room.

3460
03:11:54,664 --> 03:11:59,369
We have tons of equipment that we'd be willing to let

3461
03:11:59,369 --> 03:12:02,772
others use if that's what you would like.

3462
03:12:02,772 --> 03:12:06,142
And we would really appreciate a vote on letting us

3463
03:12:06,142 --> 03:12:09,479
stay in the building until a new building is built.

3464
03:12:09,479 --> 03:12:11,479
Thank you.

3465
03:12:18,540 --> 03:12:19,756
>> Who is next?

3466
03:12:19,756 --> 03:12:21,756
Mitchell. Sorry.

3467
03:12:34,504 --> 03:12:38,642
>> First of all, let me say I know nothing about the

3468
03:12:38,642 --> 03:12:38,975
marina.

3469
03:12:38,975 --> 03:12:41,478
I literally know nothing about the marina.

3470
03:12:41,478 --> 03:12:44,948
But what it sounds like to me is you're saying if we

3471
03:12:44,948 --> 03:12:46,383
build it, they will come.

3472
03:12:46,383 --> 03:12:48,783
And they're already here.

3473
03:12:49,719 --> 03:12:52,522
These people have been working this area for I don't

3474
03:12:52,522 --> 03:12:53,356
know how long.

3475
03:12:53,356 --> 03:12:54,157
However many years.

3476
03:12:54,157 --> 03:12:58,628
And you're saying, no, we'll just kick them out.

3477
03:12:58,628 --> 03:13:00,196
Build a whole new building.

3478
03:13:00,196 --> 03:13:00,930
They'll come back.

3479
03:13:00,930 --> 03:13:02,666
Doesn't sound right to me.

3480
03:13:02,666 --> 03:13:07,304
Now I'm sure there's some compromise that can be done

3481
03:13:07,304 --> 03:13:11,941
where these people can maybe it open to more public

3482
03:13:11,941 --> 03:13:16,112
access, or start a diversity board or do something

3483
03:13:16,112 --> 03:13:20,750
under the city guidelines that says, look, you can stay

3484
03:13:20,750 --> 03:13:24,454
here but you gotta let more people in.

3485
03:13:24,454 --> 03:13:26,489
Let some of this land free.

3486
03:13:26,489 --> 03:13:27,991
Have a diversity board.

3487
03:13:27,991 --> 03:13:30,827
You've got to show me you're not some prejudice group

3488
03:13:30,827 --> 03:13:31,428
or something.

3489
03:13:31,428 --> 03:13:36,900
Just to tear the whole thing down and say get out to a

3490
03:13:36,900 --> 03:13:40,704
group that's been there that long, you're not slum

3491
03:13:40,704 --> 03:13:41,104
lords.

3492
03:13:41,104 --> 03:13:42,706
You can improve the property.

3493
03:13:42,706 --> 03:13:44,374
It's the city's property.

3494
03:13:44,374 --> 03:13:46,309
So you can improve it as you go along.

3495
03:13:46,309 --> 03:13:50,480
You don't have to wipe everybody out and throw

3496
03:13:50,480 --> 03:13:51,414
everybody out.

3497
03:13:51,414 --> 03:13:53,216
I don't know anything more about the area.

3498
03:13:53,216 --> 03:13:54,500
>> Thanks.

3499
03:13:54,500 --> 03:13:56,450
Who is next? Yes.

3500
03:14:07,897 --> 03:14:09,499
>> Thank you very much.

3501
03:14:09,499 --> 03:14:12,435
My name is Ron Koin.

3502
03:14:12,435 --> 03:14:14,637
And I'm with the Gulfport lions club.

3503
03:14:14,637 --> 03:14:17,774
I've been with them for eight years.

3504
03:14:17,774 --> 03:14:19,843
My wife is also a member.

3505
03:14:19,843 --> 03:14:24,643
And what I'm hearing tonight blows my mind.

3506
03:14:25,215 --> 03:14:28,885
I know there have been discussions with other affected

3507
03:14:28,885 --> 03:14:29,719
groups here.

3508
03:14:29,719 --> 03:14:30,887
We have heard nothing.

3509
03:14:30,887 --> 03:14:33,823
This is the first we've heard.

3510
03:14:33,823 --> 03:14:40,423
And it sounds like there are going to be some very

3511
03:14:40,663 --> 03:14:46,630
interesting arrangements made if we were to choose and

3512
03:14:46,269 --> 03:14:52,869
go on board with this basically pay rent for a building

3513
03:14:53,109 --> 03:14:57,309
that May not be available when needed.

3514
03:14:57,480 --> 03:15:00,480
So I am very disappointed.

3515
03:15:01,985 --> 03:15:08,585
Just for the facts, we generate quite a bit of money

3516
03:15:08,658 --> 03:15:13,458
for agencies and other organizations in Gulfport that

3517
03:15:13,530 --> 03:15:15,930
depend on this money.

3518
03:15:15,965 --> 03:15:21,365
We recently formed a foundation, which is a 501 c3

3519
03:15:21,771 --> 03:15:22,372
nonprofit.

3520
03:15:22,372 --> 03:15:26,543
The reason we did this was to hopefully generate more

3521
03:15:26,543 --> 03:15:29,879
money and get it to where it's needed.

3522
03:15:29,879 --> 03:15:33,349
So I'm standing here listening to this wondering one,

3523
03:15:33,349 --> 03:15:36,860
why have we not heard about this?

3524
03:15:36,860 --> 03:15:39,255
First time I'm hearing about it.

3525
03:15:39,255 --> 03:15:43,426
And secondly, where is the enticement to keep the lions

3526
03:15:43,426 --> 03:15:44,694
club in Gulfport?

3527
03:15:44,694 --> 03:15:49,399
I can guarantee you there are many communities that

3528
03:15:49,399 --> 03:15:54,700
would give their eye teeth for an established company

3529
03:15:54,700 --> 03:15:58,775
or established organization like ours who could come up

3530
03:15:58,775 --> 03:16:00,844
to speed very quickly.

3531
03:16:00,844 --> 03:16:04,414
And I'm sure we'll be given a good welcome to set up

3532
03:16:04,414 --> 03:16:07,684
what we've done here in Gulfport to set up for them.

3533
03:16:07,684 --> 03:16:11,187
Where is there any incentive for us to drag along with

3534
03:16:11,187 --> 03:16:14,691
what's going on here and say, we'll stay. We don't know

3535
03:16:14,691 --> 03:16:16,292
what you're going to do.

3536
03:16:16,292 --> 03:16:18,795
This building you're talking about, is it going to have

3537
03:16:18,795 --> 03:16:19,829
the facilities we need?

3538
03:16:19,829 --> 03:16:20,763
We don't know.

3539
03:16:20,763 --> 03:16:22,232
We May never know.

3540
03:16:22,232 --> 03:16:23,500
But it's very disappointing.

3541
03:16:23,500 --> 03:16:26,703
And I'm sure we're going to get a very bad feedback

3542
03:16:26,703 --> 03:16:29,339
from our other members when they hear about this.

3543
03:16:29,339 --> 03:16:33,810
And I would like to know when are we going to hear

3544
03:16:33,810 --> 03:16:34,544
about this?

3545
03:16:34,544 --> 03:16:34,811
Thank you.

3546
03:16:34,811 --> 03:16:37,680
>> We'll be in touch for sure, Mr. Coin.

3547
03:16:37,680 --> 03:16:40,650
Because this isn't a resolution or an ordinance, and a

3548
03:16:40,650 --> 03:16:43,920
lot of the folks who have come up and spoke already

3549
03:16:43,920 --> 03:16:46,890
spoke somewhat on this issue, we're going to do five

3550
03:16:46,890 --> 03:16:48,358
more people on this discussion.

3551
03:16:48,358 --> 03:16:50,930
You've had your hand up.

3552
03:16:50,930 --> 03:16:52,295
You had your hand up.

3553
03:16:52,295 --> 03:16:53,863
You had your hand up.

3554
03:16:53,863 --> 03:16:56,566
And in the back there, you had your hand up.

3555
03:16:56,566 --> 03:17:01,366
We'll start with you since you're the closest.

3556
03:17:06,809 --> 03:17:11,609
>> My name is Julie Jacobi, and I vote.

3557
03:17:15,985 --> 03:17:18,385
Tonight I'm terribly disappointed.

3558
03:17:21,624 --> 03:17:25,824
Fiscal responsibility and general non nonshalauns about

3559
03:17:30,990 --> 03:17:34,299
a club that's been here for years.

3560
03:17:38,608 --> 03:17:42,812
You said we could use the multi-purpose room that's

3561
03:17:42,812 --> 03:17:46,115
above the marina because it's under utilized.

3562
03:17:46,115 --> 03:17:53,315
But now you want to build a building when you have one

3563
03:17:54,891 --> 03:17:56,359
that's underutilized.

3564
03:17:56,359 --> 03:18:00,960
You had to go to the front end of the marina to

3565
03:18:00,960 --> 03:18:01,331
actually use the restrooms.

3566
03:18:01,331 --> 03:18:03,199
They reconfigured the basin.

3567
03:18:03,199 --> 03:18:05,568
You've been here 30 years, you know.

3568
03:18:05,568 --> 03:18:08,538
They reconfigured a basin and made it that way.

3569
03:18:08,538 --> 03:18:11,808
That's poor planning on the city.

3570
03:18:11,808 --> 03:18:16,246
I live on 49th street, and I'd hate to see anymore

3571
03:18:16,246 --> 03:18:17,880
traffic increase. I vote.

3572
03:18:17,880 --> 03:18:23,286
This isn't just about bcyc. It's a big part of what it

3573
03:18:23,286 --> 03:18:23,720
is.

3574
03:18:23,720 --> 03:18:24,253
No.

3575
03:18:24,253 --> 03:18:24,854
I vote.

3576
03:18:24,854 --> 03:18:27,254
More traffic, more things.

3577
03:18:27,323 --> 03:18:30,293
My neighbors had their mailbox knocked off many times

3578
03:18:30,293 --> 03:18:32,562
because of boat traffic going through there.

3579
03:18:32,562 --> 03:18:35,640
How much more traffic are you going to bring down

3580
03:18:35,640 --> 03:18:35,298
there?

3581
03:18:35,298 --> 03:18:38,670
What are you going to do with it?

3582
03:18:38,670 --> 03:18:41,571
Again, you have clam bayou across the street.

3583
03:18:41,571 --> 03:18:43,873
How much access do you need?

3584
03:18:43,873 --> 03:18:44,907
Take the spit.

3585
03:18:44,907 --> 03:18:45,775
We don't care.

3586
03:18:45,775 --> 03:18:50,580
Why are you going to tear down -- why are you going to

3587
03:18:50,580 --> 03:18:54,984
evict a good tenant to tear down a building and maybe

3588
03:18:54,984 --> 03:18:58,540
you have another one? I don't understand.

3589
03:18:58,540 --> 03:19:01,654
As a resident and a voter.

3590
03:19:08,598 --> 03:19:09,132
>> All right.

3591
03:19:09,132 --> 03:19:11,132
Yes, please.

3592
03:19:11,134 --> 03:19:15,334
You spoke about the cleaning tables before.

3593
03:19:20,143 --> 03:19:22,143
>> Good evening, again.

3594
03:19:23,279 --> 03:19:29,279
My name is Kim and I'm with the clearwater Audubon

3595
03:19:30,253 --> 03:19:30,953
society.

3596
03:19:30,953 --> 03:19:34,857
I was contacted by several people because they're

3597
03:19:34,857 --> 03:19:36,926
concerned about the birds.

3598
03:19:36,926 --> 03:19:42,265
In the area of observation spots a and b, they're also

3599
03:19:42,265 --> 03:19:47,603
labeled on the drawings as pathway spots a and b. So

3600
03:19:47,603 --> 03:19:51,974
that would be the area where the mangroves are.

3601
03:19:51,974 --> 03:19:56,174
And right now, currently, we have approximately 100

3602
03:19:56,279 --> 03:20:00,616
pairs of nesting birds, including brown pelicans, gray

3603
03:20:00,616 --> 03:20:01,150
egrets.

3604
03:20:01,150 --> 03:20:07,150
And also I've been told there are little blue herons

3605
03:20:07,156 --> 03:20:07,757
nesting.

3606
03:20:07,757 --> 03:20:11,957
Blue herons are a state protected species.

3607
03:20:13,996 --> 03:20:17,300
They have a lot of protections because there are a few

3608
03:20:17,300 --> 03:20:17,900
of them.

3609
03:20:17,900 --> 03:20:21,437
There are nesting colonies and habitats are constantly

3610
03:20:21,437 --> 03:20:23,239
being destroyed by humans.

3611
03:20:23,239 --> 03:20:26,609
And coastal development and recreational uses along the

3612
03:20:26,609 --> 03:20:27,430
shore.

3613
03:20:27,430 --> 03:20:30,480
Now the Brown pelican is the most common bird that is

3614
03:20:30,480 --> 03:20:31,714
nesting there right now.

3615
03:20:31,714 --> 03:20:37,286
And they have all kinds of action plans by the fwc that

3616
03:20:37,286 --> 03:20:41,230
protect them, one of the major conservation strategies

3617
03:20:41,230 --> 03:20:45,228
is, it says it's critical that historic colonies are

3618
03:20:45,228 --> 03:20:48,965
preserved because data suggests that pelicans are not

3619
03:20:48,965 --> 03:20:50,366
colonizing new areas.

3620
03:20:50,366 --> 03:20:55,166
Rather, they have exhibited sight fidelity according to

3621
03:20:55,271 --> 03:20:59,471
the last 40 years of surveys in Florida.

3622
03:21:00,176 --> 03:21:04,280
So in other words, it's not like they could go

3623
03:21:04,280 --> 03:21:05,114
somewhere else.

3624
03:21:05,114 --> 03:21:08,551
If you build two docks there and you disturb them, I'm

3625
03:21:08,551 --> 03:21:11,687
telling you right now, they're not going to go anywhere

3626
03:21:11,687 --> 03:21:11,988
else.

3627
03:21:11,988 --> 03:21:13,222
They'll stay there.

3628
03:21:13,222 --> 03:21:18,394
But the human disturbance is going to make them go

3629
03:21:18,394 --> 03:21:18,928
away.

3630
03:21:18,928 --> 03:21:20,396
This is not acceptable.

3631
03:21:20,396 --> 03:21:24,367
This is not an environmentally sound decision by a

3632
03:21:24,367 --> 03:21:24,801
government.

3633
03:21:24,801 --> 03:21:29,438
And because of coastal development and human recreation

3634
03:21:29,438 --> 03:21:32,909
disturbances, nesting colonies all throughout Florida

3635
03:21:32,909 --> 03:21:34,760
are declining.

3636
03:21:34,760 --> 03:21:37,914
So you have to take these species action plans in to

3637
03:21:37,914 --> 03:21:38,281
consideration.

3638
03:21:38,281 --> 03:21:43,386
I would urge you to meet with fwc regional biologist

3639
03:21:43,386 --> 03:21:47,957
Nick Jennings, and Cindy with the fish and wildlife

3640
03:21:47,957 --> 03:21:48,491
service.

3641
03:21:48,491 --> 03:21:51,360
And you can talk to them about how human disturbance,

3642
03:21:51,360 --> 03:21:54,564
if you put two docks there and put a pathway there,

3643
03:21:54,564 --> 03:21:56,866
it's going to wreck it for the birds.

3644
03:21:56,866 --> 03:21:59,635
And this is not a sound decision at all.

3645
03:21:59,635 --> 03:22:03,372
Also, you say you want people to see the birds, well

3646
03:22:03,372 --> 03:22:06,442
they can use binoculars from a distance instead of

3647
03:22:06,442 --> 03:22:07,476
disturbing nesting birds.

3648
03:22:07,476 --> 03:22:11,113
And the other thing, they have a nesting here for at

3649
03:22:11,113 --> 03:22:12,114
least three years.

3650
03:22:12,114 --> 03:22:15,952
And taking away one of their nesting colony habitats is

3651
03:22:15,952 --> 03:22:17,860
a bad decision.

3652
03:22:17,860 --> 03:22:19,860
>> Okay. Thank you.

3653
03:22:19,322 --> 03:22:22,425
Just so people don't think I'm calling on all these

3654
03:22:22,425 --> 03:22:23,659
people that like me.

3655
03:22:23,659 --> 03:22:24,260
Ms.

3656
03:22:24,260 --> 03:22:25,294
Hanerhan.

3657
03:22:25,294 --> 03:22:27,630
>> Really, take them into consideration.

3658
03:22:27,630 --> 03:22:28,970
It's a very bad decision.

3659
03:22:28,970 --> 03:22:30,970
>> Thank you.

3660
03:22:37,440 --> 03:22:39,440
>> Thank you.

3661
03:22:41,644 --> 03:22:44,914
I have a few points here very briefly.

3662
03:22:44,914 --> 03:22:48,251
First of all, when the new marina building was first

3663
03:22:48,251 --> 03:22:50,586
built, I took a tour of it.

3664
03:22:50,586 --> 03:22:51,420
It's beautiful inside.

3665
03:22:51,420 --> 03:22:54,524
I said to the harbor master, how can we use this?

3666
03:22:54,524 --> 03:22:55,892
How can I rent this?

3667
03:22:55,892 --> 03:22:57,226
How can I get in here?

3668
03:22:57,226 --> 03:22:59,662
He said, oh, you can't get in here.

3669
03:22:59,662 --> 03:23:02,565
You'd have to be a marina tenant.

3670
03:23:02,565 --> 03:23:05,534
Never heard of how to get in there.

3671
03:23:05,534 --> 03:23:09,380
I live two blocks from that building.

3672
03:23:09,380 --> 03:23:11,541
What is the impact going to be of this new plan?

3673
03:23:11,541 --> 03:23:15,411
I agree with the gentleman who said, what about all the

3674
03:23:15,411 --> 03:23:15,745
traffic?

3675
03:23:15,745 --> 03:23:20,750
You should sit on the corner by my house and watch the

3676
03:23:20,750 --> 03:23:22,852
boats that come up there.

3677
03:23:22,852 --> 03:23:25,354
I know they're not supposed to come up tiffton.

3678
03:23:25,354 --> 03:23:28,491
I know tiffton is not big enough for it.

3679
03:23:28,491 --> 03:23:30,226
But they come up any way.

3680
03:23:30,226 --> 03:23:34,864
And they get to that corner, and they go, ooh ooh where

3681
03:23:34,864 --> 03:23:37,199
am I going to go now?

3682
03:23:37,199 --> 03:23:40,569
Because tiffton doesn't go all the way through to

3683
03:23:40,569 --> 03:23:40,937
anything.

3684
03:23:40,937 --> 03:23:43,739
So you have got to look at the traffic flow.

3685
03:23:43,739 --> 03:23:47,843
If you're going to get bigger boats, or more boats and

3686
03:23:47,843 --> 03:23:50,446
trailers, you've got to look at that.

3687
03:23:50,446 --> 03:23:54,550
What impact will this development have on neighborhood,

3688
03:23:54,550 --> 03:23:57,119
environmental, flooding, and other issues?

3689
03:23:57,119 --> 03:24:03,250
We already have water on 29th street in front of the

3690
03:24:03,250 --> 03:24:07,897
marina during a spring-time knee tide I call them.

3691
03:24:07,897 --> 03:24:09,999
What is that extra development going to do?

3692
03:24:09,999 --> 03:24:10,366
>> Nothing.

3693
03:24:10,366 --> 03:24:15,104
>> And lastly, I'm pleased to know that our city has

3694
03:24:15,104 --> 03:24:18,975
enough dollars that it turns away $2,000 a month

3695
03:24:18,975 --> 03:24:22,845
rental, while it decides how it's going to design

3696
03:24:22,845 --> 03:24:27,583
something that it might or might not have money for in

3697
03:24:27,583 --> 03:24:28,551
the future.

3698
03:24:28,551 --> 03:24:32,455
I wish I was in that position.

3699
03:24:32,455 --> 03:24:35,124
I'd like to design something but I don't know where I'm

3700
03:24:35,124 --> 03:24:36,920
getting the money for.

3701
03:24:36,920 --> 03:24:38,928
I've often considered sitting there and designing what

3702
03:24:38,928 --> 03:24:42,131
house I would build when I win the lotto.

3703
03:24:42,131 --> 03:24:47,503
Then again, I think maybe that's not the best use of my

3704
03:24:47,503 --> 03:24:47,937
time.

3705
03:24:47,937 --> 03:24:50,873
So please take into consideration the fiscal issues,

3706
03:24:50,873 --> 03:24:54,143
the neighborhood issues, and what you're doing to the

3707
03:24:54,143 --> 03:24:56,312
environment when you develop this plan.

3708
03:24:56,312 --> 03:24:59,815
For sure, let's go ahead and develop a plan, but let's

3709
03:24:59,815 --> 03:25:02,351
take into account the existing clubs, the existing

3710
03:25:02,351 --> 03:25:05,521
things that are there and work along with them instead

3711
03:25:05,521 --> 03:25:09,250
of ripping it down and leaving us with a dead space

3712
03:25:09,250 --> 03:25:12,194
because maybe we don't get that money or maybe the

3713
03:25:12,194 --> 03:25:15,998
terms of that money is such that we can't use it for

3714
03:25:15,998 --> 03:25:16,332
that.

3715
03:25:16,332 --> 03:25:17,600
Thank you.

3716
03:25:17,600 --> 03:25:21,837
>> All right. We had -- it was the gentleman back there

3717
03:25:21,837 --> 03:25:24,540
I believe was the next one.

3718
03:25:24,540 --> 03:25:25,841
You'll be our last speaker.

3719
03:25:25,841 --> 03:25:26,375
Thank you.

3720
03:25:26,375 --> 03:25:28,375
>> Hello.

3721
03:25:29,780 --> 03:25:32,780
My name is Jack gimlin.

3722
03:25:33,115 --> 03:25:36,519
I've lived at that address for about 39 years and owned

3723
03:25:36,519 --> 03:25:38,540
that property for that long.

3724
03:25:38,540 --> 03:25:40,556
I've lived in Gulfport two or three years longer than

3725
03:25:40,556 --> 03:25:40,823
that.

3726
03:25:40,823 --> 03:25:48,230
I think I moved here in '79 all the way from Pasadena

3727
03:25:48,300 --> 03:25:48,631
across.

3728
03:25:48,631 --> 03:25:51,734
Don't screw up Gulfport with this stupid idea.

3729
03:25:51,734 --> 03:25:55,704
Don't screw up Gulfport with this stupid over

3730
03:25:55,704 --> 03:25:56,705
development idea.

3731
03:25:56,705 --> 03:25:58,705
Slow down.

3732
03:25:59,708 --> 03:26:00,810
Take a breath.

3733
03:26:00,810 --> 03:26:05,114
Give us a chance to listen to what you might want to

3734
03:26:05,114 --> 03:26:08,684
do, by trying to ram this crap down our throats.

3735
03:26:08,684 --> 03:26:10,853
It ain't going to cut it.

3736
03:26:10,853 --> 03:26:12,188
Just not going to.

3737
03:26:12,188 --> 03:26:13,589
Take a step back.

3738
03:26:13,589 --> 03:26:17,526
Take two steps back if you're not satisfied with one,

3739
03:26:17,526 --> 03:26:21,630
because I'm pissed off about the one taken back

3740
03:26:21,630 --> 03:26:21,464
already.

3741
03:26:21,464 --> 03:26:23,464
Stop this silliness.

3742
03:26:23,732 --> 03:26:25,668
Gulfport is perfect.

3743
03:26:25,668 --> 03:26:25,801
Sure.

3744
03:26:25,801 --> 03:26:28,201
Those are dinosaur buildings.

3745
03:26:28,404 --> 03:26:30,272
They're dinosaurs.

3746
03:26:30,272 --> 03:26:31,207
They're Gulfport.

3747
03:26:31,207 --> 03:26:33,375
Leave Gulfport as Gulfport.

3748
03:26:33,375 --> 03:26:35,775
I'm a native Floridian.

3749
03:26:37,446 --> 03:26:40,446
Born in Mount Park Hospital.

3750
03:26:41,717 --> 03:26:44,887
Don't screw up Gulfport with this stupid -- your plan

3751
03:26:44,887 --> 03:26:47,123
is not environmentally friendly at all.

3752
03:26:47,123 --> 03:26:49,892
It sounds like an environmental disaster to me.

3753
03:26:49,892 --> 03:26:50,626
Stop.

3754
03:26:50,626 --> 03:26:51,327
>> All right.

3755
03:26:51,327 --> 03:26:55,527
Sir, you're the last one back there.

3756
03:27:01,637 --> 03:27:03,372
>> My name is Don Rogers.

3757
03:27:03,372 --> 03:27:06,475
I am a member of the yacht club.

3758
03:27:06,475 --> 03:27:08,844
I'm from St. Petersburg.

3759
03:27:08,844 --> 03:27:12,982
One of the things I'd like to point out that maybe none

3760
03:27:12,982 --> 03:27:16,785
of you realize is that clam bayou clean up, you know

3761
03:27:16,785 --> 03:27:17,153
what?

3762
03:27:17,153 --> 03:27:22,124
A large percentage of the helpers there were from the

3763
03:27:22,124 --> 03:27:23,920
yacht club.

3764
03:27:23,920 --> 03:27:26,629
We help the city in ways you don't even know about.

3765
03:27:26,629 --> 03:27:30,466
Something you alluded to us, locking people out of our

3766
03:27:30,466 --> 03:27:30,833
property.

3767
03:27:30,833 --> 03:27:35,371
We put up a gate 10 years ago or something.

3768
03:27:35,371 --> 03:27:37,673
Gulfport yacht club had one long before that.

3769
03:27:37,673 --> 03:27:40,420
I'm not trying to criticize them because they probably

3770
03:27:40,420 --> 03:27:42,978
had the same reasons why we ended up putting one up.

3771
03:27:42,978 --> 03:27:44,980
We were getting theft.

3772
03:27:44,980 --> 03:27:50,980
A whole trailer load of canoes and kayaks were stolen.

3773
03:27:51,954 --> 03:27:53,856
Motors were stolen off of people's boats.

3774
03:27:53,856 --> 03:27:55,591
We put up the gate.

3775
03:27:55,591 --> 03:27:56,892
And guess what?

3776
03:27:56,892 --> 03:28:00,262
We were praised for it by Dennis, the harbor master.

3777
03:28:00,262 --> 03:28:03,650
And now you're telling us because we're not allowing

3778
03:28:03,650 --> 03:28:06,502
people on the property, you want to take us away and

3779
03:28:06,502 --> 03:28:08,370
kick us out of there.

3780
03:28:08,370 --> 03:28:08,804
Really?

3781
03:28:08,804 --> 03:28:10,839
We'll take the gate down.

3782
03:28:10,839 --> 03:28:13,542
We'll build a couple of bathrooms.

3783
03:28:13,542 --> 03:28:16,450
Then you got bathrooms on that end of the property.

3784
03:28:16,450 --> 03:28:22,170
We'll just lock up the building so all our assets are

3785
03:28:22,170 --> 03:28:22,585
protected.

3786
03:28:22,585 --> 03:28:23,519
The sea scouts equipment.

3787
03:28:23,519 --> 03:28:26,455
All of that will be protected.

3788
03:28:26,455 --> 03:28:27,723
But the property will be open.

3789
03:28:27,723 --> 03:28:31,393
I mean, at this point, anyway, you look at our basin,

3790
03:28:31,393 --> 03:28:35,331
it's got -- I think Dennis said 22 or 25 power boats in

3791
03:28:35,331 --> 03:28:36,131
there.

3792
03:28:36,131 --> 03:28:38,167
None of them are members that I know of.

3793
03:28:38,167 --> 03:28:39,168
Maybe one or two are.

3794
03:28:39,168 --> 03:28:39,501
Okay.

3795
03:28:39,501 --> 03:28:42,400
But most of them are not members.

3796
03:28:42,400 --> 03:28:44,873
So it's already open to the public anyway.

3797
03:28:44,873 --> 03:28:46,208
So what's the big deal?

3798
03:28:46,208 --> 03:28:49,808
Let us stay in the building.

3799
03:28:49,812 --> 03:28:51,647
We're paying rent to you, now.

3800
03:28:51,647 --> 03:28:54,683
Not just rent, you don't realize this, we also pay the

3801
03:28:54,683 --> 03:28:57,186
property taxes and insurance and other things on there.

3802
03:28:57,186 --> 03:29:00,856
So it's not just the $2,000 a month.

3803
03:29:00,856 --> 03:29:01,924
>> Which began when?

3804
03:29:01,924 --> 03:29:03,580
Just to be clear?

3805
03:29:03,580 --> 03:29:06,895
>> It began at the beginning of the year. But our lease

3806
03:29:06,895 --> 03:29:08,831
ran out that was before that.

3807
03:29:08,831 --> 03:29:11,967
And before that, we made all the money on the slips.

3808
03:29:11,967 --> 03:29:13,602
But we gave that all to you.

3809
03:29:13,602 --> 03:29:17,506
So that was a consideration that the city made when we

3810
03:29:17,506 --> 03:29:19,308
were getting $1 a year.

3811
03:29:19,308 --> 03:29:22,770
But we were still paying all the other expenses.

3812
03:29:22,770 --> 03:29:22,978
So let's not go there.

3813
03:29:22,978 --> 03:29:24,313
We're talking about right now.

3814
03:29:24,313 --> 03:29:25,848
We're paying $2,000 a month.

3815
03:29:25,848 --> 03:29:28,751
>> This is actually about the property, not the yacht

3816
03:29:28,751 --> 03:29:29,510
club.

3817
03:29:29,510 --> 03:29:32,988
>> Yeah, but you're throwing us out and that's $2,000 a

3818
03:29:32,988 --> 03:29:33,355
month.

3819
03:29:33,355 --> 03:29:35,591
>> We're double dipping on the yacht club stuff.

3820
03:29:35,591 --> 03:29:38,294
Do you want to focus on what we're talking about now.

3821
03:29:38,294 --> 03:29:40,362
>> This is what we're talking about, I think.

3822
03:29:40,362 --> 03:29:44,233
>> I hear a lot of yacht club.

3823
03:29:44,233 --> 03:29:45,401
So please.

3824
03:29:45,401 --> 03:29:46,869
>> No, the yacht club I'm talking.

3825
03:29:46,869 --> 03:29:47,436
>> Yeah.

3826
03:29:47,436 --> 03:29:48,637
>> Yes, we're trying --

3827
03:29:48,637 --> 03:29:51,373
>> This is not about the yacht club, this is about the

3828
03:29:51,373 --> 03:29:51,607
property.

3829
03:29:51,607 --> 03:29:51,974
All right.

3830
03:29:51,974 --> 03:29:52,675
Finish it.

3831
03:29:52,675 --> 03:29:53,409
Take your time.

3832
03:29:53,409 --> 03:29:54,243
Take your time.

3833
03:29:54,243 --> 03:29:57,546
>> Obviously you've got your mind very closed to the

3834
03:29:57,546 --> 03:29:58,213
yacht clubs.

3835
03:29:58,213 --> 03:30:00,616
You obviously hate the yacht clubs. Sorry.

3836
03:30:00,616 --> 03:30:02,616
>> All right.

3837
03:30:04,190 --> 03:30:04,586
At this point --

3838
03:30:04,586 --> 03:30:06,622
>> Can I make a proposal?

3839
03:30:06,622 --> 03:30:07,656
>> Feel free.

3840
03:30:07,656 --> 03:30:14,256
>> So my proposal would be that we let the yacht club

3841
03:30:14,997 --> 03:30:17,397
continue their month-to-month lease.

3842
03:30:17,433 --> 03:30:20,602
Have some more meetings on the building that you want

3843
03:30:20,602 --> 03:30:23,806
to build to make sure it would serve everybody's needs

3844
03:30:23,806 --> 03:30:26,642
because maybe we haven't taken in to consideration what

3845
03:30:26,642 --> 03:30:30,145
the lions club needs and what the other clubs need for

3846
03:30:30,145 --> 03:30:30,546
storage.

3847
03:30:30,546 --> 03:30:31,880
Meet with them.

3848
03:30:31,880 --> 03:30:34,783
Maybe have another meeting with, you know, a workshop

3849
03:30:34,783 --> 03:30:35,751
with the neighborhood.

3850
03:30:35,751 --> 03:30:39,880
And because we need to do that anyway in order to --

3851
03:30:39,880 --> 03:30:41,790
you know, there's no sense building a building nobody

3852
03:30:41,790 --> 03:30:42,691
can use.

3853
03:30:42,691 --> 03:30:47,529
So if we had more meetings and then decide what to do

3854
03:30:47,529 --> 03:30:48,330
from there.

3855
03:30:48,330 --> 03:30:53,635
So we'd still be going ahead with planning, potential

3856
03:30:53,635 --> 03:30:56,500
reuse of the marina.

3857
03:30:56,500 --> 03:30:57,773
And we'd still be getting income.

3858
03:30:57,773 --> 03:31:01,677
And if we're going to put the yacht club in the new

3859
03:31:01,677 --> 03:31:04,880
building, they would still be there to move into that

3860
03:31:04,880 --> 03:31:05,314
building.

3861
03:31:05,314 --> 03:31:07,314
>> Yes.

3862
03:31:08,717 --> 03:31:12,200
>> I've got a lot of questions.

3863
03:31:12,200 --> 03:31:15,824
What I'd like to do if we could table this until the

3864
03:31:15,824 --> 03:31:18,794
next meeting and not make a decision either way.

3865
03:31:18,794 --> 03:31:24,133
Give us time to talk to ponder some of the questions

3866
03:31:24,133 --> 03:31:26,535
that were brought to us.

3867
03:31:26,535 --> 03:31:30,672
Allow the city manager to get more information so we

3868
03:31:30,672 --> 03:31:34,810
can make an intelligent -- some of the things that were

3869
03:31:34,810 --> 03:31:36,810
said.

3870
03:31:40,783 --> 03:31:44,887
I'd like to table this for one more meeting.

3871
03:31:44,887 --> 03:31:47,856
Not make a decision on anything until that time so we

3872
03:31:47,856 --> 03:31:49,725
can look at it much more closely.

3873
03:31:49,725 --> 03:31:55,725
Walk over there and talk and get a lot more

3874
03:31:56,310 --> 03:31:56,665
information.

3875
03:31:56,665 --> 03:31:57,933
>> Council member Brown.

3876
03:31:57,933 --> 03:32:03,933
>> For me, I feel like all three entities, the yacht,

3877
03:32:04,540 --> 03:32:10,512
the Gulfport yacht club, the lions club, and the Boca

3878
03:32:10,512 --> 03:32:15,912
yacht club, we're not kicking you to the curb.

3879
03:32:15,918 --> 03:32:19,555
We want you to stay in this new building.

3880
03:32:19,555 --> 03:32:22,555
>> Does she get to speak?

3881
03:32:26,161 --> 03:32:32,161
We've spent a lot of time letting people speak --

3882
03:32:33,350 --> 03:32:35,170
>> Those are the discussions we're having.

3883
03:32:35,170 --> 03:32:39,575
All we're asking to do is this a direction we want to

3884
03:32:39,575 --> 03:32:40,309
go into?

3885
03:32:40,309 --> 03:32:41,877
I don't want anybody to leave.

3886
03:32:41,877 --> 03:32:44,580
I want everybody to be in a new state of the art

3887
03:32:44,580 --> 03:32:44,813
building.

3888
03:32:44,813 --> 03:32:47,149
It's only a concept.

3889
03:32:47,149 --> 03:32:52,921
So if the taller sailing vessels don't fit, then let's

3890
03:32:52,921 --> 03:32:58,694
work together to find out how it can all work.

3891
03:32:58,694 --> 03:33:03,732
My main goal is public access to the water.

3892
03:33:03,732 --> 03:33:04,733
That's my main goal.

3893
03:33:04,733 --> 03:33:06,301
Public access to the water.

3894
03:33:06,301 --> 03:33:09,370
And that's public access for the people in the

3895
03:33:09,370 --> 03:33:11,773
neighborhood who's never been able to come over there.

3896
03:33:11,773 --> 03:33:15,377
The people in our city that go from the high school all

3897
03:33:15,377 --> 03:33:19,314
the way down to the bay can come and sit on the channel

3898
03:33:19,314 --> 03:33:20,516
and watch the boats.

3899
03:33:20,516 --> 03:33:23,252
We're not trying to do anything to the neighbors.

3900
03:33:23,252 --> 03:33:26,321
We're trying to open it up for the neighbors.

3901
03:33:26,321 --> 03:33:29,321
I'm all about open access.

3902
03:33:31,590 --> 03:33:34,396
I really feel like we can work together to make sure

3903
03:33:34,396 --> 03:33:37,399
everybody has a space in a building that hasn't even

3904
03:33:37,399 --> 03:33:38,300
been designed yet.

3905
03:33:38,300 --> 03:33:44,900
Once we sit down and make the decision to move forward.

3906
03:33:45,700 --> 03:33:47,376
>> I'm going to agree with April.

3907
03:33:47,376 --> 03:33:49,311
I foresee a lot of meetings.

3908
03:33:49,311 --> 03:33:53,582
I mean, I want to see we go door-to-door and speak to

3909
03:33:53,582 --> 03:33:57,119
everybody that lives in the marina and get their input

3910
03:33:57,119 --> 03:33:58,887
and a town hall meeting.

3911
03:33:58,887 --> 03:34:03,692
I think we need to speak to all of the clubs before we

3912
03:34:03,692 --> 03:34:06,662
even start thinking about what we're talking about.

3913
03:34:06,662 --> 03:34:09,531
I'm not for bulldosing this building at all.

3914
03:34:09,531 --> 03:34:10,966
I think it's a bad idea.

3915
03:34:10,966 --> 03:34:14,136
I think what we should be doing is looking for the

3916
03:34:14,136 --> 03:34:15,837
money and looking for the plans.

3917
03:34:15,837 --> 03:34:17,706
And that's what we should be focusing on.

3918
03:34:17,706 --> 03:34:20,108
And working with all of the community.

3919
03:34:20,108 --> 03:34:23,745
I don't see that -- I think that's pretty easy for us.

3920
03:34:23,745 --> 03:34:27,583
We move forward with the discussions on designs.

3921
03:34:27,583 --> 03:34:31,587
We can actually get an architect and whatever to start

3922
03:34:31,587 --> 03:34:32,788
doing some designs.

3923
03:34:32,788 --> 03:34:35,390
Get some estimates on what it's going to cost.

3924
03:34:35,390 --> 03:34:39,761
Get an estimate on how much we're going to charge for

3925
03:34:39,761 --> 03:34:40,162
rent.

3926
03:34:40,162 --> 03:34:44,962
And then we could actually formulate a picture.

3927
03:34:45,634 --> 03:34:49,571
In the meantime, why not let them stay there.

3928
03:34:49,571 --> 03:34:50,839
They're paying rent.

3929
03:34:50,839 --> 03:34:51,773
That's my feeling.

3930
03:34:51,773 --> 03:34:53,875
>> Anything to add to what you already said?

3931
03:34:53,875 --> 03:34:55,777
>> I agree with Paul.

3932
03:34:55,777 --> 03:34:58,914
Again, it might even be premature to get an architect

3933
03:34:58,914 --> 03:35:02,651
to draw it until we talk with the club and find out

3934
03:35:02,651 --> 03:35:03,885
what facility they need.

3935
03:35:03,885 --> 03:35:06,722
It's clear listening to all of them that they each need

3936
03:35:06,722 --> 03:35:09,570
to have their own separate space in this building.

3937
03:35:09,570 --> 03:35:11,960
It can't just be one big open space.

3938
03:35:11,960 --> 03:35:16,198
There might be able to be an open space that multiple

3939
03:35:16,198 --> 03:35:19,668
people can use like a meeting room or something.

3940
03:35:19,668 --> 03:35:20,836
But they'll all need separate space.

3941
03:35:20,836 --> 03:35:24,973
And maybe the building will have to be bigger than we

3942
03:35:24,973 --> 03:35:27,609
think because in order to accommodate that.

3943
03:35:27,609 --> 03:35:29,611
But I think that just needs discussion.

3944
03:35:29,611 --> 03:35:34,516
I want to mention, too, when we talk about permeable

3945
03:35:34,516 --> 03:35:38,920
pavement, I hope we're not just talking about pavers.

3946
03:35:38,920 --> 03:35:40,656
Just throwing that in there.

3947
03:35:40,656 --> 03:35:42,224
>> I just have one more thing.

3948
03:35:42,224 --> 03:35:45,270
I had spoken to a couple of club members.

3949
03:35:45,270 --> 03:35:49,398
But I did speak to one of them that said it would be a

3950
03:35:49,398 --> 03:35:53,135
really good idea to make a tour of some of the other

3951
03:35:53,135 --> 03:35:55,337
marinas that have done the multi-use things.

3952
03:35:55,337 --> 03:35:57,239
And get some better ideas from them.

3953
03:35:57,239 --> 03:35:59,508
I mean, they've already done it.

3954
03:35:59,508 --> 03:36:03,478
Why reinvent the wheel when they've already done it for

3955
03:36:03,478 --> 03:36:03,879
us.

3956
03:36:03,879 --> 03:36:05,130
>> All right.

3957
03:36:05,130 --> 03:36:12,213
So let's go two steps. Where are we at on the building?

3958
03:36:13,422 --> 03:36:18,527
On the yacht club going in to the month-to-month on the

3959
03:36:18,527 --> 03:36:18,994
building?

3960
03:36:18,994 --> 03:36:19,461
>> So --

3961
03:36:19,461 --> 03:36:20,696
>> I'm asking.

3962
03:36:20,696 --> 03:36:21,463
>> Just the building.

3963
03:36:21,463 --> 03:36:22,364
>> Just the building.

3964
03:36:22,364 --> 03:36:24,764
>> I could do that.

3965
03:36:30,539 --> 03:36:33,141
>> I'd still like to put everything back.

3966
03:36:33,141 --> 03:36:36,741
>> You want to do this twice?

3967
03:36:36,745 --> 03:36:39,681
>> Yeah, I want to do this twice.

3968
03:36:39,681 --> 03:36:42,784
But as far as month-to-month, I don't have a problem.

3969
03:36:42,784 --> 03:36:45,530
>> You guys win, I'll go with you.

3970
03:36:45,530 --> 03:36:45,754
On the building.

3971
03:36:45,754 --> 03:36:49,891
>> Mayor, I have a question on the letter.

3972
03:36:49,891 --> 03:36:51,660
>> We can rescind on that.

3973
03:36:51,660 --> 03:36:56,331
If I understand council is to rescind the letter and

3974
03:36:56,331 --> 03:36:56,898
continue.

3975
03:36:56,898 --> 03:37:00,669
>> We're still continuing, it's still going to be the

3976
03:37:00,669 --> 03:37:01,360
building.

3977
03:37:01,360 --> 03:37:07,636
Doesn't mean that they have to sign on the human rights

3978
03:37:07,642 --> 03:37:08,243
ordinance.

3979
03:37:08,243 --> 03:37:10,278
>> We don't have --

3980
03:37:10,278 --> 03:37:11,480
>> Month-to-month.

3981
03:37:11,480 --> 03:37:13,482
What we've been doing basically since January is what

3982
03:37:13,482 --> 03:37:14,149
I'm talking about.

3983
03:37:14,149 --> 03:37:19,454
>> Or the option is to enter into a new definitive

3984
03:37:19,454 --> 03:37:19,955
timeline.

3985
03:37:19,955 --> 03:37:22,257
>> Nothing long because if we talk about the life of

3986
03:37:22,257 --> 03:37:22,691
the building.

3987
03:37:22,691 --> 03:37:23,425
Something for now.

3988
03:37:23,425 --> 03:37:26,561
>> One year lease from now and it will have the

3989
03:37:26,561 --> 03:37:29,398
language we've all spoken about in regards to the new

3990
03:37:29,398 --> 03:37:30,532
leases that we issue.

3991
03:37:30,532 --> 03:37:33,602
>> So what step can we take to move forward with

3992
03:37:33,602 --> 03:37:33,902
planning?

3993
03:37:33,902 --> 03:37:36,238
What is going to be next for that?

3994
03:37:36,238 --> 03:37:40,208
Because kicking this down the road for a year.

3995
03:37:40,208 --> 03:37:43,178
I understand the compassion for letting them have the

3996
03:37:43,178 --> 03:37:43,478
building.

3997
03:37:43,478 --> 03:37:46,848
But kicking the can down and not doing anything with

3998
03:37:46,848 --> 03:37:48,650
the development of the property.

3999
03:37:48,650 --> 03:37:51,686
>> I thought the direction of the council was to do

4000
03:37:51,686 --> 03:37:53,540
both at the same time.

4001
03:37:53,540 --> 03:37:54,356
Meaning continue --

4002
03:37:54,356 --> 03:37:54,923
>> Okay.

4003
03:37:54,923 --> 03:37:59,861
>> Can't you do a new month-to-month lease that --

4004
03:37:59,861 --> 03:38:03,265
>> We will bring the lease back to council if that's

4005
03:38:03,265 --> 03:38:04,166
what you want.

4006
03:38:04,166 --> 03:38:07,269
>> That does the ada or whatever else.

4007
03:38:07,269 --> 03:38:07,702
>> hr.

4008
03:38:07,702 --> 03:38:10,172
>> It has to be the building only.

4009
03:38:10,172 --> 03:38:12,674
I'm not giving up the public access component.

4010
03:38:12,674 --> 03:38:14,209
>> It's strictly the building.

4011
03:38:14,209 --> 03:38:14,976
>> Just the building.

4012
03:38:14,976 --> 03:38:17,179
>> And we're going to move forward with --

4013
03:38:17,179 --> 03:38:18,130
>> No gates.

4014
03:38:18,130 --> 03:38:18,847
No fence.

4015
03:38:18,847 --> 03:38:20,582
>> We'll work all those things.

4016
03:38:20,582 --> 03:38:21,820
Security things.

4017
03:38:21,820 --> 03:38:23,482
We'll start addressing them.

4018
03:38:25,253 --> 03:38:25,620
>> Go ahead.

4019
03:38:25,620 --> 03:38:27,620
>> No.

4020
03:38:31,226 --> 03:38:34,930
>> I'll speak to Mr. Hien, because he was the

4021
03:38:34,930 --> 03:38:35,697
negotiating committee.

4022
03:38:35,697 --> 03:38:37,265
We'll come back with a document.

4023
03:38:37,265 --> 03:38:40,535
And council can vote it up or down.

4024
03:38:40,535 --> 03:38:43,138
So that's where we're at.

4025
03:38:43,138 --> 03:38:46,410
Now in regards to strictly the offer would be

4026
03:38:46,410 --> 03:38:48,577
contingent on just the building facility, is that

4027
03:38:48,577 --> 03:38:48,910
correct?

4028
03:38:48,910 --> 03:38:50,712
>> Yup.

4029
03:38:50,712 --> 03:38:51,379
>> Okay.

4030
03:38:51,379 --> 03:38:55,984
The second part of it is we will proceed with starting

4031
03:38:55,984 --> 03:38:56,384
draft.

4032
03:38:56,384 --> 03:38:59,521
Actually some other options and some different looks

4033
03:38:59,521 --> 03:39:02,257
and some cost estimates associated with different

4034
03:39:02,257 --> 03:39:03,425
aspects of it.

4035
03:39:03,425 --> 03:39:03,758
Like we know --

4036
03:39:03,758 --> 03:39:06,194
>> Not yet until we have meetings.

4037
03:39:06,194 --> 03:39:08,263
>> We have to start the meeting somewhere.

4038
03:39:08,263 --> 03:39:09,497
>> Exactly.

4039
03:39:09,497 --> 03:39:11,833
>> Have some idea what things are going to cost.

4040
03:39:11,833 --> 03:39:14,436
>> Otherwise we talk about things for nine years and

4041
03:39:14,436 --> 03:39:14,936
don't move.

4042
03:39:14,936 --> 03:39:19,708
>> Basically we know we have a cost estimate

4043
03:39:19,708 --> 03:39:23,308
approximately 400,000. The breakwater park is estimated

4044
03:39:23,445 --> 03:39:23,979
$800,000.

4045
03:39:23,979 --> 03:39:29,979
We also have the reconfiguration of the area in egress

4046
03:39:30,986 --> 03:39:32,387
and ingress.

4047
03:39:32,387 --> 03:39:35,323
I don't want to tell you to build the building for

4048
03:39:35,323 --> 03:39:38,493
people who don't want to come and then it costs you $2

4049
03:39:38,493 --> 03:39:38,760
million.

4050
03:39:38,760 --> 03:39:40,595
I agree with you on that.

4051
03:39:40,595 --> 03:39:43,465
We May reach a point, and I'm going to put this on the

4052
03:39:43,465 --> 03:39:43,698
record.

4053
03:39:43,698 --> 03:39:47,369
You May reach a point where if they don't want to move

4054
03:39:47,369 --> 03:39:50,739
in your building and the lease is over, as the mayor

4055
03:39:50,739 --> 03:39:53,208
said, you're just procrastinating an issue, a decision

4056
03:39:53,208 --> 03:39:55,343
that's going to have to be made.

4057
03:39:55,343 --> 03:39:57,979
>> But then you might decide if none of them want to

4058
03:39:57,979 --> 03:39:59,714
move in the building, why build the building?

4059
03:39:59,714 --> 03:40:01,449
>> Because it's not just for the clubs.

4060
03:40:01,449 --> 03:40:03,618
I think this has been lost from the beginning.

4061
03:40:03,618 --> 03:40:04,653
The building is not just for the clubs.

4062
03:40:04,653 --> 03:40:06,653
>> Yeah.

4063
03:40:06,955 --> 03:40:08,490
>> It's for other people to use as well.

4064
03:40:08,490 --> 03:40:12,160
>> But we already have the marina building that people

4065
03:40:12,160 --> 03:40:12,894
can use.

4066
03:40:12,894 --> 03:40:16,264
>> It's about open access to all the waterfront.

4067
03:40:16,264 --> 03:40:17,265
To me.

4068
03:40:17,265 --> 03:40:18,333
That's what's important to me.

4069
03:40:18,333 --> 03:40:21,333
>> But you could still --

4070
03:40:23,571 --> 03:40:25,600
anyway. >> Are we good where we are?

4071
03:40:25,600 --> 03:40:25,573
>> Yes.

4072
03:40:25,573 --> 03:40:30,712
>> It will bring you a very short-term lease to

4073
03:40:30,712 --> 03:40:33,782
continue their presence in the building.

4074
03:40:33,782 --> 03:40:39,182
Subsequently, at the same time, we will start drafting

4075
03:40:41,856 --> 03:40:44,256
some ideas to represent.

4076
03:40:45,427 --> 03:40:45,961
>> All right.

4077
03:40:45,961 --> 03:40:47,796
>> Then we'll have a real workshop.

4078
03:40:47,796 --> 03:40:50,765
>> You can call it a workshop, a meeting.

4079
03:40:50,765 --> 03:40:55,437
It's going to be like for the public just like every

4080
03:40:55,437 --> 03:40:56,304
other time.

4081
03:40:56,304 --> 03:41:00,504
>> You said removing or opening the fence.

4082
03:41:00,709 --> 03:41:04,512
My question is if we do open the fence up and giving

4083
03:41:04,512 --> 03:41:08,160
more public access to the land, how will we protect the

4084
03:41:08,160 --> 03:41:09,284
boats, the dry storage.

4085
03:41:09,284 --> 03:41:11,753
>> That's what we're talking about.

4086
03:41:11,753 --> 03:41:15,557
>> At the club or the city incurring a temporary cost.

4087
03:41:15,557 --> 03:41:19,327
>> We will have costs associated with just as we

4088
03:41:19,327 --> 03:41:22,364
incurred costs with taking down certain fences last

4089
03:41:22,364 --> 03:41:23,865
week and replacing fences.

4090
03:41:23,865 --> 03:41:27,168
We're going to come up with a security plan because as

4091
03:41:27,168 --> 03:41:29,571
some of these individuals spoke of that we're

4092
03:41:29,571 --> 03:41:32,273
responsible and we'll come up with a real plan.

4093
03:41:32,273 --> 03:41:36,440
We'll come back to council with a security plan.

4094
03:41:36,440 --> 03:41:37,912
We May increase cameras.

4095
03:41:37,912 --> 03:41:40,749
We May reconfigure the fencing.

4096
03:41:40,749 --> 03:41:43,518
We May remove certain surfaces that are impervious

4097
03:41:43,518 --> 03:41:46,321
today and move it and make them straight.

4098
03:41:46,321 --> 03:41:48,156
We're going to start with those things.

4099
03:41:48,156 --> 03:41:51,226
We have to do those because we have some ideas that

4100
03:41:51,226 --> 03:41:54,290
we'd like to reconfigure some of the dry storage and

4101
03:41:54,290 --> 03:41:54,863
things like that.

4102
03:41:54,863 --> 03:41:57,332
Those are things we're going to move forward with.

4103
03:41:57,332 --> 03:41:59,901
At least to -- if you've got them in the building,

4104
03:41:59,901 --> 03:42:01,202
we're going to keep going.

4105
03:42:01,202 --> 03:42:03,138
And that's kind of where we're at.

4106
03:42:03,138 --> 03:42:05,730
No, we're not building anything at this point.

4107
03:42:05,730 --> 03:42:07,800
But we are going to reconfigure.

4108
03:42:07,800 --> 03:42:08,676
>> Start prepping for it.

4109
03:42:08,676 --> 03:42:11,446
>> Traffic flows and things like that, we want do.

4110
03:42:11,446 --> 03:42:13,314
And we'll bring you a budget for that.

4111
03:42:13,314 --> 03:42:18,714
And we're going to start with that this week.

4112
03:42:20,355 --> 03:42:24,726
My staff with this tonight to show you what's been

4113
03:42:24,726 --> 03:42:26,494
proposed in the past.

4114
03:42:26,494 --> 03:42:28,196
Nobody is married to any specific part of it.

4115
03:42:28,196 --> 03:42:32,233
But the one thing we heard continually is to open as

4116
03:42:32,233 --> 03:42:35,170
much of that waterfront area to the public.

4117
03:42:35,170 --> 03:42:39,740
And be it the breakwater park, you know, the other

4118
03:42:39,740 --> 03:42:40,241
aspects of that.

4119
03:42:40,241 --> 03:42:45,641
Those are all factors that we can bring in.

4120
03:42:46,181 --> 03:42:48,616
I mean, we talked about.

4121
03:42:48,616 --> 03:42:51,619
The last thing May be, we're talking about vacating the

4122
03:42:51,619 --> 03:42:51,920
road.

4123
03:42:51,920 --> 03:42:55,757
Those are things that we want to talk about that we'd

4124
03:42:55,757 --> 03:42:57,859
like to present to the public.

4125
03:42:57,859 --> 03:43:01,290
But until we get direction as we did tonight, then

4126
03:43:01,290 --> 03:43:02,330
that's where we're at.

4127
03:43:02,330 --> 03:43:06,901
I mean, we could come up with a lease type agreement

4128
03:43:06,901 --> 03:43:08,570
for their building use.

4129
03:43:08,570 --> 03:43:11,973
>> I just had a quick question.

4130
03:43:11,973 --> 03:43:17,373
Because I'm not sure when the Florida legislature, when

4131
03:43:17,679 --> 03:43:20,790
their session is finished.

4132
03:43:20,215 --> 03:43:23,751
We'll know whether they're going to approve the

4133
03:43:23,751 --> 03:43:25,520
$800,000 for breakwater park?

4134
03:43:25,520 --> 03:43:26,788
>> That's right.

4135
03:43:26,788 --> 03:43:30,525
>> If they approve it, how soon will you typically

4136
03:43:30,525 --> 03:43:31,626
receive that money?

4137
03:43:31,626 --> 03:43:35,226
>> July 1st, it's in their budget.

4138
03:43:35,396 --> 03:43:37,265
Once they approve the state budget --

4139
03:43:37,265 --> 03:43:38,500
>> We'll know right away.

4140
03:43:38,500 --> 03:43:42,437
>> We'll know right away with the breakwater park.

4141
03:43:42,437 --> 03:43:45,440
>> So do you got what you need at this point?

4142
03:43:45,440 --> 03:43:46,407
>> I'm good.

4143
03:43:46,407 --> 03:43:50,110
>> Let's move on to council comments and informational

4144
03:43:50,110 --> 03:43:51,412
reports, beginning with --

4145
03:43:51,412 --> 03:43:51,479
>> Me.

4146
03:43:51,479 --> 03:43:53,348
>> With you.

4147
03:43:53,348 --> 03:43:58,520
>> I just wanted to point out a couple of things.

4148
03:43:58,520 --> 03:43:59,200
>> There's not a vote.

4149
03:43:59,200 --> 03:44:02,200
>> No, it's a discussion item.

4150
03:44:02,190 --> 03:44:06,928
>> I don't know how many of y'all were here at the time

4151
03:44:06,928 --> 03:44:10,198
when the casino had a restaurant in it, bamammavilles.

4152
03:44:10,198 --> 03:44:14,636
I just want to know that does remember that great

4153
03:44:14,636 --> 03:44:17,739
restaurant that Bahama Bill has passed away.

4154
03:44:17,739 --> 03:44:19,941
And there is a service coming up for him.

4155
03:44:19,941 --> 03:44:24,245
Also, I wonder if by the new fish cleaning table to the

4156
03:44:24,245 --> 03:44:28,516
north of it, if we could get a pad here for handicap,

4157
03:44:28,516 --> 03:44:31,386
for wheelchair access so that people can -- because

4158
03:44:31,386 --> 03:44:35,323
this is the only bench that's really close to the water

4159
03:44:35,323 --> 03:44:37,525
that somebody can fish from.

4160
03:44:37,525 --> 03:44:40,295
But if they're in a wheelchair, they're in the dirt.

4161
03:44:40,295 --> 03:44:46,100
And I'd like to know if we could get a pad here with a

4162
03:44:46,100 --> 03:44:50,238
little handicap stencil on it and maybe a bumper so

4163
03:44:50,238 --> 03:44:52,307
nobody goes over the edge.

4164
03:44:52,307 --> 03:44:55,577
So that people that are in wheelchairs or physically

4165
03:44:55,577 --> 03:44:59,180
handicapped could use this pad to fish from if they

4166
03:44:59,180 --> 03:45:01,150
can't get to the bench.

4167
03:45:01,150 --> 03:45:04,150
So I'm asking for that.

4168
03:45:05,530 --> 03:45:08,690
Also city manager, last year when I asked you for the

4169
03:45:08,690 --> 03:45:11,659
fish cleaning table to be replaced with something that

4170
03:45:11,659 --> 03:45:14,295
had a little bit of protection of it.

4171
03:45:14,295 --> 03:45:17,765
I'm very pleased to see the double wide fish cleaning

4172
03:45:17,765 --> 03:45:18,132
table.

4173
03:45:18,132 --> 03:45:19,133
It's state of the art.

4174
03:45:19,133 --> 03:45:21,369
I don't know if you guys have been by it.

4175
03:45:21,369 --> 03:45:24,839
But it's very nice. I hear what you guys are saying

4176
03:45:24,839 --> 03:45:27,410
about the things that it still needs.

4177
03:45:27,410 --> 03:45:28,142
But it's really nice.

4178
03:45:28,142 --> 03:45:30,912
And I appreciate the work that went in to put that in.

4179
03:45:30,912 --> 03:45:31,913
It's double wide.

4180
03:45:31,913 --> 03:45:35,483
I mean, it has -- I think it has a knife sharpener in

4181
03:45:35,483 --> 03:45:39,530
it and a place for your pole and a drink cup.

4182
03:45:39,530 --> 03:45:42,123
And it's shaded so people can be out of the weather

4183
03:45:42,123 --> 03:45:44,580
when they're taking care of their catch.

4184
03:45:44,580 --> 03:45:45,994
That's all I have.

4185
03:45:45,994 --> 03:45:46,394
>> All right.

4186
03:45:46,394 --> 03:45:47,950
Council member.

4187
03:45:47,950 --> 03:45:49,631
>> Mayor, if I May interrupt.

4188
03:45:49,631 --> 03:45:52,330
There were two individuals who wanted to comment on

4189
03:45:52,330 --> 03:45:52,333
Zoom.

4190
03:45:52,333 --> 03:45:53,768
>> Oh, sorry.

4191
03:45:53,768 --> 03:45:54,736
>> Are they still there?

4192
03:45:54,736 --> 03:45:58,336
>> Yes, one of them is, mayor.

4193
03:45:58,439 --> 03:45:59,774
And I let the person speak.

4194
03:45:59,774 --> 03:46:02,774
Two of them are now.

4195
03:46:04,312 --> 03:46:06,312
Margaret tober.

4196
03:46:18,159 --> 03:46:19,930
Margaret, are you there?

4197
03:46:19,930 --> 03:46:22,230
I'll go to the other one first.

4198
03:46:22,230 --> 03:46:23,765
I think it was Ms.

4199
03:46:23,765 --> 03:46:24,650
Ring.

4200
03:46:24,650 --> 03:46:27,665
I'll allow her to talk now.

4201
03:46:27,835 --> 03:46:29,671
>> Yes, oh my God.

4202
03:46:29,671 --> 03:46:31,671
Hi. I'm sorry.

4203
03:46:32,140 --> 03:46:37,912
You know, you don't have to tear down the buildings to

4204
03:46:37,912 --> 03:46:41,549
open the buildings up for multi-use purpose.

4205
03:46:41,549 --> 03:46:44,552
You can use the buildings just as you would use the big

4206
03:46:44,552 --> 03:46:44,819
buildings.

4207
03:46:44,819 --> 03:46:48,790
In other words, if you're going to have multi-clubs,

4208
03:46:48,790 --> 03:46:53,227
like maybe you have birds and helping hands have part

4209
03:46:53,227 --> 03:46:58,132
of the space that's in the clubhouse so they can keep

4210
03:46:58,132 --> 03:47:00,802
their stuff in an office area.

4211
03:47:00,802 --> 03:47:04,439
And you have that area that's opened up for everybody.

4212
03:47:04,439 --> 03:47:09,239
Just pretend those three buildings, not the Gulfport

4213
03:47:09,911 --> 03:47:14,111
yacht building, they already have their lease.

4214
03:47:14,716 --> 03:47:19,487
Maybe give those -- Richard Walter said he pays $300.

4215
03:47:19,487 --> 03:47:20,988
I pay $300, too.

4216
03:47:20,988 --> 03:47:22,990
And you know what?

4217
03:47:22,990 --> 03:47:27,128
Jonathan Cornwell, you said that's open to the public.

4218
03:47:27,128 --> 03:47:32,834
But I have police reports of me being cornered in

4219
03:47:32,834 --> 03:47:33,401
there.

4220
03:47:33,401 --> 03:47:38,606
And being told that I'm not allowed to go in that

4221
03:47:38,606 --> 03:47:41,442
parking lot because it's private property.

4222
03:47:41,442 --> 03:47:46,214
You had my roommate escorted off because you said it's

4223
03:47:46,214 --> 03:47:47,148
private property.

4224
03:47:47,148 --> 03:47:53,870
And so I think when you want it to be private property,

4225
03:47:53,870 --> 03:47:55,590
it's yours and it's private.

4226
03:47:55,590 --> 03:47:56,457
Just like Kim said.

4227
03:47:56,457 --> 03:47:59,761
But when you want it to be public, and you want all the

4228
03:47:59,761 --> 03:48:01,829
benefits of the public, then it's that way.

4229
03:48:01,829 --> 03:48:05,299
So what I'm going to say is that use, those buildings,

4230
03:48:05,299 --> 03:48:08,436
you don't have to tear buildings down to make them

4231
03:48:08,436 --> 03:48:08,770
open.

4232
03:48:08,770 --> 03:48:12,206
If somebody's renting the slips, the slips in the south

4233
03:48:12,206 --> 03:48:15,676
basin, they should be able to use the bathroom without

4234
03:48:15,676 --> 03:48:17,745
walking a quarter of a mile.

4235
03:48:17,745 --> 03:48:19,614
You know.

4236
03:48:19,614 --> 03:48:22,750
Let's look at accessibility for everybody.

4237
03:48:22,750 --> 03:48:23,751
Nobody has to leave.

4238
03:48:23,751 --> 03:48:25,119
It's about sharing.

4239
03:48:25,119 --> 03:48:27,519
It's about being inclusive.

4240
03:48:28,489 --> 03:48:31,926
It's about having people in the community.

4241
03:48:31,926 --> 03:48:37,326
And I'm going to tell you, seriously, really think

4242
03:48:37,665 --> 03:48:43,665
about it when you renew long term leases with people,

4243
03:48:44,500 --> 03:48:50,500
what you're saying is that woman Kim, that she doesn't

4244
03:48:50,378 --> 03:48:52,280
count, does she?

4245
03:48:52,280 --> 03:48:57,652
Samantha, who cares if she can walk through the parking

4246
03:48:57,652 --> 03:48:58,186
lot.

4247
03:48:58,186 --> 03:48:59,854
But the yacht club can do it.

4248
03:48:59,854 --> 03:49:04,654
And I'm saying and we're saying be inclusive.

4249
03:49:09,130 --> 03:49:11,232
Because I've lived here longer than Jonathan Cornwell.

4250
03:49:11,232 --> 03:49:15,670
And I have police reports and 911 calls, and I've been

4251
03:49:15,670 --> 03:49:18,105
traumatized like you have no idea.

4252
03:49:18,105 --> 03:49:18,940
So share.

4253
03:49:18,940 --> 03:49:20,608
Nobody is saying kick everybody out.

4254
03:49:20,608 --> 03:49:23,800
We're saying share. Share.

4255
03:49:25,847 --> 03:49:27,847
>> All right.

4256
03:49:28,316 --> 03:49:28,483
Ms.

4257
03:49:28,483 --> 03:49:30,852
Tober, are you with us?

4258
03:49:30,852 --> 03:49:33,252
>> Margaret, are you there?

4259
03:49:33,254 --> 03:49:35,654
>> I'm here. Thank you.

4260
03:49:36,924 --> 03:49:39,827
I had kind of given up on it so I'm sorry.

4261
03:49:39,827 --> 03:49:41,950
And I'm sorry for earlier.

4262
03:49:41,950 --> 03:49:44,310
I'm watching on Zoom and you cannot see the clock.

4263
03:49:44,310 --> 03:49:46,834
I'm watching Zoom on the phone and you can't see the

4264
03:49:46,834 --> 03:49:47,680
clock.

4265
03:49:47,680 --> 03:49:49,470
So I apologize for that.

4266
03:49:49,470 --> 03:49:52,273
Mayor, I've liked your plan for the breakwater park

4267
03:49:52,273 --> 03:49:53,808
ever since you suggested it.

4268
03:49:53,808 --> 03:49:57,912
I don't know how many years it ago it was.

4269
03:49:57,912 --> 03:50:00,470
And I believe council member Brown had a part in it.

4270
03:50:00,470 --> 03:50:01,649
I think that's a wonderful idea.

4271
03:50:01,649 --> 03:50:04,886
And I'm glad to hear that there's some compromise

4272
03:50:04,886 --> 03:50:08,823
coming from bcyc. And I hope that you know, you're also

4273
03:50:08,823 --> 03:50:12,393
going to take -- I heard there was a fence around

4274
03:50:12,393 --> 03:50:13,861
Gulfport yacht club.

4275
03:50:13,861 --> 03:50:14,462
I don't remember.

4276
03:50:14,462 --> 03:50:16,931
I hope you're going to be taking that down as well.

4277
03:50:16,931 --> 03:50:21,202
But I think all in all where you're going now is what

4278
03:50:21,202 --> 03:50:22,637
Gulfport is all about.

4279
03:50:22,637 --> 03:50:28,476
Where we were kind of headed really isn't the spirit of

4280
03:50:28,476 --> 03:50:29,100
Gulfport.

4281
03:50:29,100 --> 03:50:29,510
Ms.

4282
03:50:29,510 --> 03:50:32,413
Brown, you've been here 30 years.

4283
03:50:32,413 --> 03:50:34,315
City manager, you were born here.

4284
03:50:34,315 --> 03:50:38,386
And you know that where we're kind of headed wasn't the

4285
03:50:38,386 --> 03:50:39,487
spirit of Gulfport.

4286
03:50:39,487 --> 03:50:42,256
So I'm glad to see that it's turned around and that

4287
03:50:42,256 --> 03:50:44,250
we're making some headway in that direction.

4288
03:50:44,250 --> 03:50:47,562
And I think to let the folks utilize that building

4289
03:50:47,562 --> 03:50:51,980
until you really decide where you're going to go, and

4290
03:50:51,980 --> 03:50:52,166
collect the rent.

4291
03:50:52,166 --> 03:50:55,570
At the same time, you know, it sounded to me like

4292
03:50:55,570 --> 03:50:57,772
you've got lots of homework to do.

4293
03:50:57,772 --> 03:50:59,674
And you've got some things to get ready.

4294
03:50:59,674 --> 03:51:02,677
So I'm glad to hear that it turned around.

4295
03:51:02,677 --> 03:51:07,114
That it's happening the way it is. Thank you very much.

4296
03:51:07,114 --> 03:51:07,682
>> All right.

4297
03:51:07,682 --> 03:51:08,449
Thank you.

4298
03:51:08,449 --> 03:51:09,717
So we'll continue on.

4299
03:51:09,717 --> 03:51:13,154
>> We had one more person. I'm sorry.

4300
03:51:13,154 --> 03:51:13,521
>> All right.

4301
03:51:13,521 --> 03:51:15,521
>> Sorry about that.

4302
03:51:17,858 --> 03:51:19,858
Mr. Canter.

4303
03:51:20,494 --> 03:51:23,397
>> Honorable mayor, city council, city manager, city

4304
03:51:23,397 --> 03:51:27,340
attorney, city clerk, thank you all for your time and

4305
03:51:27,340 --> 03:51:29,570
for enduring this very, very long evening.

4306
03:51:29,570 --> 03:51:33,808
I really appreciate y'all taking a second and taking a

4307
03:51:33,808 --> 03:51:38,479
moment to allow those of us who were online and didn't

4308
03:51:38,479 --> 03:51:42,717
get a chance to preverbialy raise our hands in the

4309
03:51:42,717 --> 03:51:45,686
audience time to speak on this matter.

4310
03:51:45,686 --> 03:51:47,188
There's been a whole lot said tonight.

4311
03:51:47,188 --> 03:51:52,827
And I think, you know, I have literally spoken to all

4312
03:51:52,827 --> 03:51:54,395
of y'all endlessly.

4313
03:51:54,395 --> 03:51:57,798
And you'll know my feelings on this.

4314
03:51:57,798 --> 03:52:02,360
As a life long Floridian, as a multi-generational

4315
03:52:02,360 --> 03:52:06,774
Floridian, the thing that continually is where we let

4316
03:52:06,774 --> 03:52:12,790
our citizens down is in the utilization of our public

4317
03:52:12,790 --> 03:52:16,817
land, and ensuring that everybody gets access to that.

4318
03:52:16,817 --> 03:52:20,321
The volleyball tournament that was approved earlier

4319
03:52:20,321 --> 03:52:25,860
tonight is the very reason why we need a locals beach.

4320
03:52:25,860 --> 03:52:29,460
We need natural, native Florida beachfront.

4321
03:52:29,897 --> 03:52:32,900
Where we can still keep our birds and have our

4322
03:52:32,900 --> 03:52:35,870
mangroves and talk about all this and see this and

4323
03:52:35,870 --> 03:52:36,470
touch it.

4324
03:52:36,470 --> 03:52:37,438
This is my water.

4325
03:52:37,438 --> 03:52:38,706
This is where I grew up.

4326
03:52:38,706 --> 03:52:40,975
This region is what I know.

4327
03:52:40,975 --> 03:52:43,978
Like this is why I brought my wife here.

4328
03:52:43,978 --> 03:52:47,882
And we moved here so that we could get a house here.

4329
03:52:47,882 --> 03:52:49,216
Be part of a community.

4330
03:52:49,216 --> 03:52:50,170
Be neighbors with people.

4331
03:52:50,170 --> 03:52:50,718
Start a family.

4332
03:52:50,718 --> 03:52:55,690
You know, hopefully, you know, maybe have a kid some

4333
03:52:55,690 --> 03:53:00,127
day that potentially joins the little league or sea

4334
03:53:00,127 --> 03:53:01,629
scouts or whatever.

4335
03:53:01,629 --> 03:53:05,700
But we always forget as we keep moving forward to take

4336
03:53:05,700 --> 03:53:09,804
care of and be good stewards of our land and our

4337
03:53:09,804 --> 03:53:10,171
legacy.

4338
03:53:10,171 --> 03:53:12,973
The thing that I appreciated most about this concept

4339
03:53:12,973 --> 03:53:16,410
was that it looked like there was an eye towards that.

4340
03:53:16,410 --> 03:53:21,810
The I think that several people have given particular

4341
03:53:21,849 --> 03:53:27,249
points of interest that are worth considering in terms

4342
03:53:27,254 --> 03:53:32,540
of environmental impact and impact to wild life.

4343
03:53:32,930 --> 03:53:36,363
And ultimately, I look forward to engaging in a lot of

4344
03:53:36,363 --> 03:53:37,898
conversations about this space.

4345
03:53:37,898 --> 03:53:42,136
Like I have talked to you all about the boat house that

4346
03:53:42,136 --> 03:53:44,939
the American small craft association based in queens

4347
03:53:44,939 --> 03:53:48,109
New York, an organization that teaches asa sailing to

4348
03:53:48,109 --> 03:53:50,544
everybody in the New York City community.

4349
03:53:50,544 --> 03:53:53,981
How they built a partnership with the city of New York

4350
03:53:53,981 --> 03:53:55,516
to open that boat house.

4351
03:53:55,516 --> 03:53:58,185
I've been in that boat house many, many times.

4352
03:53:58,185 --> 03:54:02,490
I have plenty of ideas to share and ways we can all

4353
03:54:02,490 --> 03:54:06,600
partner together to look toward a better vision for our

4354
03:54:06,600 --> 03:54:06,427
community.

4355
03:54:06,427 --> 03:54:09,964
But the reality of it is, we need to start moving

4356
03:54:09,964 --> 03:54:12,833
forward and ensuring that that piece of beach, that

4357
03:54:12,833 --> 03:54:16,360
that piece of shoreline, which is our legacy is shared

4358
03:54:16,360 --> 03:54:17,638
with the entire community openly.

4359
03:54:17,638 --> 03:54:20,380
Thank you. >> Thank you.

4360
03:54:21,275 --> 03:54:23,430
>> Council member Brown, did you get to finish?

4361
03:54:23,430 --> 03:54:24,612
>> Yes, I did, thank you.

4362
03:54:24,612 --> 03:54:26,247
>> Council member Ray.

4363
03:54:26,247 --> 03:54:28,647
>> a couple of things.

4364
03:54:29,517 --> 03:54:34,255
One is on May 29th, we're going to be having the --

4365
03:54:34,255 --> 03:54:40,661
which we -- Susan Gore had brought up the art exhibit.

4366
03:54:40,661 --> 03:54:42,363
Flag raising for pride month.

4367
03:54:42,363 --> 03:54:46,801
Also, I would like to request that we be able to use

4368
03:54:46,801 --> 03:54:49,703
the pads that they usually use for --

4369
03:54:49,703 --> 03:54:50,805
>> Art walk.

4370
03:54:50,805 --> 03:54:51,605
>> Art walks.

4371
03:54:51,605 --> 03:54:56,430
I've already spoken to Barbara, and they were all on

4372
03:54:56,430 --> 03:54:57,411
board with it.

4373
03:54:57,411 --> 03:54:59,914
All the business members, a lot of the business members

4374
03:54:59,914 --> 03:55:01,682
in town, and they're really for it.

4375
03:55:01,682 --> 03:55:06,987
We're actually going to have a bit of a well social

4376
03:55:06,987 --> 03:55:11,859
distanced because those are set up for that along beach

4377
03:55:11,859 --> 03:55:12,326
boulevard.

4378
03:55:12,326 --> 03:55:17,531
I would like to get permission to do that from council.

4379
03:55:17,531 --> 03:55:20,501
>> Can I ask a question?

4380
03:55:20,501 --> 03:55:23,437
Is the artout for the month or one day?

4381
03:55:23,437 --> 03:55:26,340
>> I think it's open for a week or two.

4382
03:55:26,340 --> 03:55:28,943
Or is it the whole month?

4383
03:55:28,943 --> 03:55:35,516
It might be the whole month because we did a flower

4384
03:55:35,516 --> 03:55:39,860
arrangement one time and didn't last.

4385
03:55:39,860 --> 03:55:40,321
May 29th.

4386
03:55:40,321 --> 03:55:41,488
>> Gotcha.

4387
03:55:41,488 --> 03:55:41,655
Understood.

4388
03:55:41,655 --> 03:55:43,324
>> The flag raising.

4389
03:55:43,324 --> 03:55:48,195
We would have the artout exhibit and then the street

4390
03:55:48,195 --> 03:55:48,662
festival.

4391
03:55:48,662 --> 03:55:49,196
>> Okay.

4392
03:55:49,196 --> 03:55:50,164
>> Got you.

4393
03:55:50,164 --> 03:55:55,369
>> The other thing that I would like to get permission

4394
03:55:55,369 --> 03:56:00,541
to bring forward on the next agenda is that we've been

4395
03:56:00,541 --> 03:56:05,246
working with the city manager and the city attorney on

4396
03:56:05,246 --> 03:56:08,549
creating an hro committee, which would abstract

4397
03:56:08,549 --> 03:56:11,385
anything to do with hro violations.

4398
03:56:11,385 --> 03:56:13,687
It would be put into a committee.

4399
03:56:13,687 --> 03:56:16,757
We've worked through a bunch of the wording on it.

4400
03:56:16,757 --> 03:56:17,758
They've been great.

4401
03:56:17,758 --> 03:56:19,760
Jim's been awesome to work with.

4402
03:56:19,760 --> 03:56:23,564
He looks at things from a different perspective.

4403
03:56:23,564 --> 03:56:25,132
And the attorney has been wonderful.

4404
03:56:25,132 --> 03:56:29,370
So I would like permission to bring a draft to the next

4405
03:56:29,370 --> 03:56:31,205
city council meeting for discussion.

4406
03:56:31,205 --> 03:56:32,673
>> All right.

4407
03:56:32,673 --> 03:56:34,675
>> So if everybody is on board.

4408
03:56:34,675 --> 03:56:35,776
>> For discussion.

4409
03:56:35,776 --> 03:56:38,412
>> It would be an initial draft and we'll take it

4410
03:56:38,412 --> 03:56:39,113
forward from there.

4411
03:56:39,113 --> 03:56:42,349
>> Yeah, because I do have concerns about appointing

4412
03:56:42,349 --> 03:56:43,784
people to make decisions.

4413
03:56:43,784 --> 03:56:46,253
>> It's one of the things that Jim had brought up.

4414
03:56:46,253 --> 03:56:50,858
The other thing that I just wanted to say is we did the

4415
03:56:50,858 --> 03:56:52,960
rain garden and finished that up.

4416
03:56:52,960 --> 03:56:55,296
That was blink and it was done.

4417
03:56:55,296 --> 03:56:57,296
It was amazing.

4418
03:56:58,465 --> 03:57:02,236
We had students from the high school.

4419
03:57:02,236 --> 03:57:09,430
A lot of people who -- a bunch of art people, I mean,

4420
03:57:09,430 --> 03:57:12,947
garden people from -- where are they?

4421
03:57:12,947 --> 03:57:14,947
>> DaEden.

4422
03:57:15,316 --> 03:57:17,551
>> It went really well.

4423
03:57:17,551 --> 03:57:22,222
I can't wait for it to start raining and start really,

4424
03:57:22,222 --> 03:57:23,570
really growing.

4425
03:57:23,570 --> 03:57:24,124
That's it.

4426
03:57:24,124 --> 03:57:26,930
>> Council member Fridovich.

4427
03:57:26,930 --> 03:57:30,898
>> I need council's permission to allow parking on 54th

4428
03:57:30,898 --> 03:57:35,202
avenue, from o'maddy's up to veterans park on Saturday

4429
03:57:35,202 --> 03:57:39,390
10th for the Steven robin event we're doing.

4430
03:57:39,390 --> 03:57:41,439
We're expecting about 75 people.

4431
03:57:42,910 --> 03:57:47,414
I was informed a number of motorcycle clubs in town

4432
03:57:47,414 --> 03:57:49,683
will be there as well.

4433
03:57:49,683 --> 03:57:53,320
I'd like to get permission from council to be able to

4434
03:57:53,320 --> 03:57:55,289
park on that street up there.

4435
03:57:55,289 --> 03:57:56,857
>> Is there an issue with that?

4436
03:57:56,857 --> 03:57:58,826
>> No, what we're looking at --

4437
03:57:58,826 --> 03:58:02,830
what we want to do is just for the duration of the

4438
03:58:02,830 --> 03:58:05,799
event just cover the no-parking signs on the west

4439
03:58:05,799 --> 03:58:09,470
side -- excuse me, the east side of 54th like we do

4440
03:58:09,470 --> 03:58:10,404
other events.

4441
03:58:10,404 --> 03:58:12,239
>> All right.

4442
03:58:12,239 --> 03:58:12,539
Great.

4443
03:58:12,539 --> 03:58:14,939
>> Period during the event.

4444
03:58:17,311 --> 03:58:19,711
Stage the motorcycles there.

4445
03:58:20,581 --> 03:58:25,753
>> On Saturday, we'll be doing a memorial service for

4446
03:58:25,753 --> 03:58:26,787
Steven j.

4447
03:58:26,787 --> 03:58:32,359
Robin who was a prisoner of the North Korean army, and

4448
03:58:32,359 --> 03:58:36,930
a long resident of Gulfport until he passed away.

4449
03:58:36,930 --> 03:58:41,730
Mayor Sam Henderson, vice mayor April Thanos, council

4450
03:58:43,904 --> 03:58:48,704
member Christine Brown, and basically the city of

4451
03:58:50,911 --> 03:58:51,779
Gulfport.

4452
03:58:51,779 --> 03:58:53,414
Memorial committee who helped put this together.

4453
03:58:53,414 --> 03:58:56,717
If you'd like to attend, we'll be having the new

4454
03:58:56,717 --> 03:58:59,386
horizon band will be performing some patriotic songs

4455
03:58:59,386 --> 03:59:00,540
for us.

4456
03:59:00,540 --> 03:59:05,920
We're going to be giving thanks to Shelley Vale and

4457
03:59:05,920 --> 03:59:06,930
Christine Brown.

4458
03:59:06,930 --> 03:59:09,363
We're going to be presenting the flag back to the

4459
03:59:09,363 --> 03:59:09,696
family.

4460
03:59:09,696 --> 03:59:12,433
Mr. Robin's family both from Savannah and Fort

4461
03:59:12,433 --> 03:59:13,834
Lauderdale are coming up.

4462
03:59:13,834 --> 03:59:15,350
Plus their grandkids.

4463
03:59:15,350 --> 03:59:19,235
We're going to have about 75-80 people.

4464
03:59:20,140 --> 03:59:21,975
I'm proposing.

4465
03:59:21,975 --> 03:59:23,310
I'm obviously guessing.

4466
03:59:23,310 --> 03:59:25,779
At veterans park this Saturday.

4467
03:59:25,779 --> 03:59:26,980
See you all there.

4468
03:59:26,980 --> 03:59:27,614
>> All right.

4469
03:59:27,614 --> 03:59:28,215
Vice mayor.

4470
03:59:28,215 --> 03:59:32,860
>> One thing that came up was about the fire department

4471
03:59:32,860 --> 03:59:35,622
roof that there was a question about it not having

4472
03:59:35,622 --> 03:59:35,989
solar.

4473
03:59:35,989 --> 03:59:39,930
And it was not strong enough to support solar.

4474
03:59:39,930 --> 03:59:42,529
But they saved $100,000 on doing that roof.

4475
03:59:42,529 --> 03:59:46,166
So that with what we have in our little fund for solar

4476
03:59:46,166 --> 03:59:49,470
should give us enough to put it on the existing marina

4477
03:59:49,470 --> 03:59:49,770
building.

4478
03:59:49,770 --> 03:59:52,372
So I know that public works is working on that.

4479
03:59:52,372 --> 03:59:55,876
So we might end up with solar on a building, which

4480
03:59:55,876 --> 03:59:56,844
would be lovely.

4481
03:59:56,844 --> 04:00:02,349
And also, I was going to see, does somebody want to do

4482
04:00:02,349 --> 04:00:06,320
the third Tuesday art walk -- not art walk.

4483
04:00:06,320 --> 04:00:10,324
Tuesday market to do the ask a councillor people?

4484
04:00:10,324 --> 04:00:11,580
>> --

4485
04:00:11,580 --> 04:00:12,759
>> No, it's for everybody.

4486
04:00:12,759 --> 04:00:15,229
If nobody wants to do it, I'll do it.

4487
04:00:15,229 --> 04:00:17,798
But if anybody wants to do it, they're of course

4488
04:00:17,798 --> 04:00:18,832
welcome to do it.

4489
04:00:18,832 --> 04:00:19,533
>> Yeah.

4490
04:00:19,533 --> 04:00:21,533
>> Tuesday? >> Tuesday.

4491
04:00:22,736 --> 04:00:25,139
>> I work during that time, too.

4492
04:00:25,139 --> 04:00:29,710
>> We can also ask if you want to do it, we can also

4493
04:00:29,710 --> 04:00:32,679
ask if they'll let us do an evening market.

4494
04:00:32,679 --> 04:00:34,140
>> All right.

4495
04:00:34,140 --> 04:00:37,551
>> But this time, if nobody --

4496
04:00:37,551 --> 04:00:38,652
Michael. >> I'm unable to.

4497
04:00:38,652 --> 04:00:45,192
>> So I'll do it this coming Tuesday when we do it.

4498
04:00:45,192 --> 04:00:47,194
Somebody brought up composting barrels.

4499
04:00:47,194 --> 04:00:49,363
That's something that the Gulfport sustainability

4500
04:00:49,363 --> 04:00:50,797
committee was looking at.

4501
04:00:50,797 --> 04:00:54,468
And we've talked to the city manager about that, about

4502
04:00:54,468 --> 04:00:57,404
potentially buying some, and then -- but giving them

4503
04:00:57,404 --> 04:01:01,408
out to people who do a class for learning how to

4504
04:01:01,408 --> 04:01:02,376
properly compost.

4505
04:01:02,376 --> 04:01:05,379
And then being able to give them some barrels.

4506
04:01:05,379 --> 04:01:09,149
So we'll look at, you know, that would have to be a

4507
04:01:09,149 --> 04:01:09,750
budget item.

4508
04:01:09,750 --> 04:01:11,952
Although that's not very expensive.

4509
04:01:11,952 --> 04:01:13,954
They're like $35 apiece or something.

4510
04:01:13,954 --> 04:01:18,625
And the county does have a class and so does Clearwater

4511
04:01:18,625 --> 04:01:22,290
so we could borrow one of their classes.

4512
04:01:22,290 --> 04:01:23,764
Somebody asked about that so I brought it up.

4513
04:01:23,764 --> 04:01:27,801
>> If that happens, would that same person be able to

4514
04:01:27,801 --> 04:01:30,370
do rain barrels and composting barrels?

4515
04:01:30,370 --> 04:01:31,710
>> Possibly.

4516
04:01:31,710 --> 04:01:33,471
>> They're both 55-gallon drums?

4517
04:01:33,740 --> 04:01:35,475
>> I'm not positive exactly.

4518
04:01:35,475 --> 04:01:36,243
>> They're small.

4519
04:01:36,243 --> 04:01:37,411
>> Oh, they are?

4520
04:01:37,411 --> 04:01:38,245
>> Yeah.

4521
04:01:38,245 --> 04:01:42,916
>> I know my experience with rain barrels is sometimes

4522
04:01:42,916 --> 04:01:48,555
it's hard to use it because it's only 50 gallons so it

4523
04:01:48,555 --> 04:01:53,260
doesn't go very far when you're trying to water your

4524
04:01:53,260 --> 04:01:53,727
garden.

4525
04:01:53,727 --> 04:01:57,764
I know there were comments about the apartments by

4526
04:01:57,764 --> 04:01:58,198
salty's.

4527
04:01:58,198 --> 04:02:02,569
I know Michael, you said you talked to the owner

4528
04:02:02,569 --> 04:02:03,300
before.

4529
04:02:03,300 --> 04:02:04,338
Somebody mentioned code violations.

4530
04:02:04,338 --> 04:02:06,730
>> We inspected it.

4531
04:02:06,730 --> 04:02:07,874
>> Didn't see anything?

4532
04:02:07,874 --> 04:02:09,376
>> Didn't see anything.

4533
04:02:09,376 --> 04:02:10,911
>> I talked with the owner.

4534
04:02:10,911 --> 04:02:15,816
I volunteered to buy the paint myself if he wanted me

4535
04:02:15,816 --> 04:02:21,121
to paint the wood. He was in agreement at the time we

4536
04:02:21,121 --> 04:02:21,588
spoke.

4537
04:02:21,588 --> 04:02:24,358
He has not gotten back to me.

4538
04:02:24,358 --> 04:02:25,659
That's where we're at.

4539
04:02:25,659 --> 04:02:27,794
>> Can I ask you a question?

4540
04:02:27,794 --> 04:02:28,562
>> Yes.

4541
04:02:28,562 --> 04:02:33,267
>> Pia's has a metal roof like the marina does.

4542
04:02:33,267 --> 04:02:37,904
And they have a fabric solar panels that goes between

4543
04:02:37,904 --> 04:02:40,707
the ribs on their metal roof.

4544
04:02:40,707 --> 04:02:42,476
You can't even see the solar.

4545
04:02:42,476 --> 04:02:43,710
And it's very interesting.

4546
04:02:43,710 --> 04:02:48,810
I wonder if we couldn't look at that kind of solar for

4547
04:02:48,810 --> 04:02:52,520
the marina house so we don't make holes in the roof.

4548
04:02:52,520 --> 04:02:55,220
They're just thin fabric sheets that go between the

4549
04:02:55,220 --> 04:02:55,355
ribs.

4550
04:02:55,355 --> 04:02:58,859
If you go by there, you can't even see they're on

4551
04:02:58,859 --> 04:02:59,159
there.

4552
04:02:59,159 --> 04:03:02,496
>> I didn't even know about that kind.

4553
04:03:02,496 --> 04:03:06,166
I'm sure that Tom Nichols could look in to that.

4554
04:03:06,166 --> 04:03:09,670
>> You've also got the solar panel like on the back

4555
04:03:09,670 --> 04:03:13,473
window of your car that rolls out, can roll out to a

4556
04:03:13,473 --> 04:03:14,107
whole roof.

4557
04:03:14,107 --> 04:03:17,678
It was sort of run by a German company a couple of

4558
04:03:17,678 --> 04:03:18,245
years ago.

4559
04:03:18,245 --> 04:03:21,480
>> I wonder if we could have Mr.

4560
04:03:21,480 --> 04:03:24,510
Nichols look in to that kind of solar before putting

4561
04:03:24,510 --> 04:03:25,552
the big huge panels on.

4562
04:03:25,552 --> 04:03:26,887
>> The biggest issue is going to be cost.

4563
04:03:26,887 --> 04:03:28,388
>> Right.

4564
04:03:28,388 --> 04:03:30,388
>> All right.

4565
04:03:31,925 --> 04:03:32,893
Motion to adjourn.

4566
04:03:32,893 --> 04:03:34,328
>> Make a motion.

4567
04:03:34,328 --> 04:03:35,462
>> Second.

4568
04:03:35,462 --> 04:03:38,462
>> Have a good night, folks.