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Okay, now we're ready to start.

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We need to finish the roll call, though. Yes. Okay, council member Roussen.

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Here.

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Council member Johnson. Here.

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Council member Nagan gas. Here.

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Vice-Mayor Penrose. Here. Mayor Radik. Here. We have a party.

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We have one public comment.

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Yes. We're going to vote.

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We're going to vote.

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We're going to vote.

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We vote. We vote. We vote. We vote. We vote. We vote.

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Close session, aye.

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We have item 4A conference with Labour negotiators.

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for the Community Adversion,

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pursue into government code section 549576,

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for V conference on legal counsel and existing litigation,

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pursuant to govern around section 54956.9.

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Up section D1, I have a foresee Cambridge

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of Legal Counsel on anticipated litigation

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and for the account to a legal counsel

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and anticipate the litigation.

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And do we have any public comment

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and close sessions by those?

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We have one in person who's always waiting in any that are online. Please raise your hand.

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If you would like to speak

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Right here, you can sit down if you'd like

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Not a matter of

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How requested that he have more than three minutes to speak.

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Well, our meeting starts at 7 o'clock. How about

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You know, give it to three

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My specific west is just that it's a rather than a hat on. Hopefully that you've

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been very small minutes of the concise.

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Well, I'm going to put the right approach to the tens of thousands of dollars that

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things can end up costing, which we want to avoid every once in a while.

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I believe.

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Okay.

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I'm going to start the time now.

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You're right.

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Thank you.

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First, May I ask, you know, have all the council members seen both the mayor letter from Brian

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and the response letter from the city's locker.

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What do you say?

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They've been sent to them.

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I'm asking if they've actually seen it with them.

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Well, so why don't you get to public comment?

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This isn't really a question and sort of type of situation.

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It's still in any communications that I would

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be sentenced to the council or attorney point privilege.

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So it's better for you to just start your public comment

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given the time.

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My point here, Denise, is that the council is weighing your advice against other things.

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I understand that you're advising them not to listen to potentially other things, so I appreciate that you're in that position.

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So basically, the public interest is served by this going to the voters, it's going to the voters.

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The public interest is served by the voters, having hearing the arguments from both sides

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and being able to weigh them in the side, and this will extinguish the controversy that

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exists in our time.

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So, the fact that the city attorney, you know, is basically saying that the city court exceeded

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her authority in writing on August 3, sending me a letter that said the deadline, counting

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and not calling attention to anything else and in that letter saying these are the rules.

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And then when I came in on the 10th for the recommendation in the letter and I don't know if all of you have seen

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the letter that the city clerk had sent me on August 3rd but if not I have a couple of copies like

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you guys can pass around later if you're just starting to hear it. It said the county deadline

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I said, this is the list we send anybody asking what arguments, county deadline for all

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arguments in August 11th, we recommend submitting any written argument paperwork to the

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City Park's office.

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Prior to this deadline to ensure all requirements have been met again in the office, 345,

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Tuesday, what they afternoon, the clerk was not in the deputy clerk contacted her upon discovering

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the discrepancy between the City Council Resolution and the letter written to me by the

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this depending on what the city court told. And after conferring, they didn't say to me,

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you got an hour and a quarter buddy, hurry up, they said, we'll accept this tomorrow.

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But I came back with it tomorrow. They said as soon as possible tomorrow, I came in with it after

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lunch, the city court, and the city deputy court together, we'll start going through it.

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They pointed to a couple of nits, if you will, that are not an issue here, and they were in

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process of accepting it, they gave me file stamped copies of what I submitted, and what

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having called Denise, they then got into the situation where, okay, Denise said he can't

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accept it. And at that point, they said, okay, we're going to have to figure this out. We will

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get back to you. Right? So, in the course of that, I should also mention that the court carefully

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examined, the argument submitted, out of the words, saw the formatting, said, no, didn't

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raise any issues about the formatting.

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It was in the process of accepting the argument.

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So I asked, well, please, while you're figuring this out, send it to the county, but they

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have it.

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It's the 11th.

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The county deadline is the 11th.

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They may just run with it.

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If the other side says, oh, they came on the 11th instead of the 10th, you know, maybe they

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can raise an issue.

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Then we get to all go to a judge, like, don't be raised by them.

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One of the public interests being the city's arguments on both sides to the voters, that's what

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we're asking finally to be accomplished. To be told that the city that the county can't meet these

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deadlines if the city asks it to. Probably they're actually have a hard deadline when they send

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things off to the printer, whether it requires a judge or a lawyer or whether it requires a city council

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resolution directing the court to ask them, we're simply in action by this council informally directing the court to ask them.

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You know, that, a pretty large earnings is very doable.

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They make progress the timeline if they need you.

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But the public interest is see these things in the argument.

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So in the letter that was sent back to us, I also wish to point out that there's actually some things that are just not true.

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you know, to say the Mr. Wagner was fully aware of the August 10th deadline is simply not true.

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To say that the argument did not comply with the city's formatting requirements of which Mr. Wagner was also aware.

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It was not true. The letter, the ignores that the city clerk wrote August 11th and no other date in the email address.

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third branch of approval is a bit tomorrow on August 10th to person. Well, she was on the phone,

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the in person was with her deputy. But the two of them confirmed, I was told this. And then

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tentatively accepted the formatting on August 11th. But for your information, I went and took the

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timestamp copies here to county elections before 5 p.m. on Tuesday. They have copies on

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that they know were submitted here.

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So if they raise a question of, you know,

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if there's an error and it's to be corrected somehow,

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they do know that it was, in fact, brought in by their deadline.

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So the news of the things I asked that, you know, the council finds some way,

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you know, to let us keep forward.

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If it takes a little bit of time, you know, let's go through that.

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If you wish to call me back in,

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for any questions, I'll be available to you to finish the procession.

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Thank you very much.

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I'll check and see if there's any other questions.

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Yeah, I'll just stand for the statement.

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It's not raised to someone.

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Dan, do you want to talk at all?

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Dan, three.

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Yeah, so Dan pulled on a minute

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or Matthew's checking for other public commenters.

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Dan, Alex,

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Dan, you're available to speak.

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I would just make it quick that I agree with the general sentiment of the previous speaker.

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Thank you.

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The agrees with the previous speaker.

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Oh, that's it.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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No, that's fine.

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But before we go into closed session,

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Vice Mayor Penro,

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if you want to make an announcement about your attendance,

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be at the just cause circumstance.

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I don't know.

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I'm from the hospital with pneumonia,

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and I'm doing a lot better than I'm very tired.

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So I'm here for the closed session.

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Okay.

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You can never.

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Okay.

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So we will end the open portion of this meeting and move into the private portion.

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So Deborah, the second length that I sent you when you could log into it down.

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Okay.

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I'll take that out of this.

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And I think I'll let's stay on the phone.

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And that way, if the audio is still an issue, you can just roll right in.

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Sorry. Thank you.