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We do have a, we have a quorum, we have a small quorum, but at least we've got one.

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Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining the, uh, our

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opposite budget government accountability committee meeting for today, September 18, 2023. My name is, but

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also the co chair for the

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on VGA committee. I'm from HVATV.org. At Harvard Public Access TV, we are streaming from

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Chinatown, Cass, Expenditing, and 6032 on Frontier. We have a very small,

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mostly, but I'm joined

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by Councilwoman of the Sheriff's Surgeon, who

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is a voting member as well, and we are joined

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by a corporation council, Howard Rifkin, who has been with us.

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It was only one.

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I'm trying to figure it out.

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It reminds me, he only was supposed to stay on for one year

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and look has been eight years, so which is fantastic.

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We have two items as I mentioned on our agenda.

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Oh, sorry, we also have Aaron Howard of

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Management and Budget.

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item one, which is may have run with a company resolution authorizing the city and delivering

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an agreement with wireless carriers, AT&T and Verizon, but the deployment of 5G and

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public rights in the city and how would are you going to be speaking?

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No, right.

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I'll start.

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Thank you.

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Let me first introduce two individuals who were joining me on this issue, retired

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Judge, Spirit Court Judge Robert Holesberg.

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He was brought in by the Governor's Office to mediate and try to mediate an agreement

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was carried specifically AT&T in Verizon and the cities of Hardford, the Bridgeport, New

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Haven and Waterbury, around the deployment and rollout of 5G-10, in municipal rights

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of land.

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I know that's a mouthful, but that's, and for the last year and a half, we've been meeting

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and trying to hammer out an agreement and what is before you tonight that

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was mediated

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by Judge Holtzberg. Joining me on this issue is Aaron Howard, who you all know, our Director

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of Economic Development. Aaron has been involved in the issue of 5G, both from a regulatory

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inventory as well as from a policy perspective in that FCC.

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I'm going to start if I may with just a general outline how we got to where we are, I'll ask a judge and

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then we can discuss in as much deep as the committee wants.

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the elements of what is in the proposed agreement for your consideration.

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So starting off at the beginning, in 2018, the FCC, the Federal Communications Committee

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in

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5G national and the L or part of that ruling, included preemption of state or municipal

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act

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in order to fear with the rollout of 5G.

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The declaratory ruling establish specific timelines or state of minutes, so we spawn, consider,

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and act upon applications for the deployment of the devices.

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Those are called shot clocks in the vernacular of the EC.

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It also caps fees that can be levied or charged

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permitting process, the maintenance of devices in rights of way

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and any other administrative costs that might be imposed by the state or

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a municipality. It didn't require the rolling dead adherence to health standards

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for radio frequency emissions, standards, and all public safety.

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In

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2022, which

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establishes that a goal is to advance equity in the provision of access

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to digital communications and products for all people in the United States without discrimination

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on the basis of race, color, national or digital.

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bill.

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I do not know because of the number of issues that emerged in a number of municipalities

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after the FCC order.

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The governor's office as part of its 5G initiative and the establishment

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of the 5G

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that was created to advance 5G deployment for Stamford, New Haven, Bridgeport

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and Waterbury were asked by the government to participate in a mediation with AT&T and

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Verizon, as I just mentioned before, to us to attempt to come in framework, a 4 or 5G roll-out

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in deployment, in municipal, we agreed as did Verizon and AT&T, and retired Superior Court

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Judge Robert Holsburg was hired through the governor's office as this

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effort has been a year

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and a half judge and

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the agreement before this counsel which is outlined in a very detailed

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term sheet that you all were providing the transmittal of the resolution and the agreement.

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Does establish that common framework, I spoke of, and is consistent with the F's,

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all the

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responsibilities that have, including indemnification of the cities,

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and it's of hard-frored adherence

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to our current zoning regulations, responsibility for repair maintenance, it

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does set out the fees that the city is all consistent with the essence of the ruling, among other things.

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and so we can get in some more details.

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That's just a small

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of the name cities are submitting a proposed agreement to their respective legislative bodies.

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I think are for this

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first of all of the city's meetings, I'm not totally sure,

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But I think that's the case with that. Let me just first ask and

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a richer understanding. And then I'll ask her and to also

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people. Thank you for that.

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As Howard mentioned, they have the lawyer's point of power. I think you do.

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So, a judge for 22 years on Superior Court in 2012, I came over to my present job at

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Bolton and Common, just around the corner of mediations and arbitrations, and actually

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was two years ago that I received a call from the government as often as two years today

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in September, asking if I had the interest and potential available with the cities and

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the carriers to try to hammer out the agreement and as Howard mentioned the the the genesis of that

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height major cities three five gene carriers and what was necessary

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brought and I think we'll all agree this is trying to devise a uniform process so that for example

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when AT&T goes to Harvard more or less same set of rules it's moved a lot of very

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stay up there, etc. There is a lot of inconsistency in terms of men's. And so we said about the task

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of trying to come up with a common sort of plan, if you will. I see that some of the cities on

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Hartford have their own zoning rules and those have to be recognized. One of the important

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things that we discussed in the plane that throughout the process had to do with this notion of preemption,

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Richard Howard mentioned to you, and many, many years ago, at UConn, you know, we discussed

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this doctrine. I used to give the young men and the law students the following. It's

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in them, but they are with me. So imagine driving down the interstate highway, by 95,

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by 80, or there are four lanes. The federal government has control over the construction of

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the highway as control over the speed, as control the repairs that has control over the

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tolls, if there were to be any, has control over the entire speed gap in the framework.

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But at the top of the exit ramp, the cities or municipalities are allowed to decide whether

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they want to have a stop sign or they want to yield right away sign or they want to have a

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And that's a very, very limited role that the local municipalities have about preemption.

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It's the federal law that really occupies all the space conversation.

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And so there's some very little room for municipalities to be involved in

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things.

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a fee setting is really refers to city-owned telephone fault.

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There may be other, but it's rather probably really

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been talking about city-owned roles.

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So we worked very hard in cooperative way.

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If I might, actually, I meant to say

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it's at the top, to thank Howard and his team at Jim Delvisco

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from the playing field.

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We really did some field effort of trying

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to come up with language and concepts that would

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be agreeable. The carers went to the other cities because we need to get eight

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signatures on this agreement. And so after a lot,

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after over 25 Zoom, the

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virtual meetings, we let the governor's office last before they're trying to

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have a final session to hammer out the main details. It's satisfying to

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me

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how it is right for us to record what we're very believe in our line

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document. They're going to be submitting the same proposal with some minor

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variations, this way their bodies as well. One of the important topics that we

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talked about and that has driven both of us and all of the parties has to do with

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the digital divide. That is the opportunity for underserved as

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other communities.

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Of course, this is a very important topic.

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The bottom line is in short that the federal laws,

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disabilities don't have a lot of negotiating power on this

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because it's covered by the federal law.

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And we did what I think is a fair and reasonable job

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in getting the carries to that location

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and trying to move forward cooperatively

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with you and your leadership to make sure

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that all men, hopefully, will have an opportunity to have access to this important technology.

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And that's reflected in the fact that there are no specific covenants that you can

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sew on to say to AT&T or Verizon having done this or that, just standing sketched out in

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these green minutes.

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So, that this is a critical area that's important, I can't think of another word.

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quality municipalities, and the carriers recognize this, and I think given all the different

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proteins that we face, all the challenges, all the moving parts, you know, the different

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critical concerns of each of the communities, then the concerns of the carriers that this

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is a agreement. And as I often tell the mediation parties, no agreements perfect, there's always

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compromised from the job you do and you always involved in trying to work out

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fields and make agreements and I owe to the view that don't like the

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perfectly the enemy of the book. I think this is a good fair power unhappy to

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arrest any specific questions that you and your colleagues may have or you know

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or let

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me first ask Erin if she has any comments she wants to offer before we

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entertain questions from the committee.

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I think the only thing I would add is just really demonstrate the council that

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really this really was a five-city effort for years in the make really was an

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opportunity for us to work collaboratively address the needs of urban cities and

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and support our rural community in a way that treated the deployment of 5G equally and fairly

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across the state. So this result made me think came of yours and it was just a great example of

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us collaborating. So thank you and thank you to Judge Holesberg and Howard to take

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past year and a half to really work hard on behalf of all the cities to come to this agreement.

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that Mr. Chairman?

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Thank you, Howard, and thank you for

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getting it to this point.

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I do want to counsel, so it's been really such a long time.

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Through the cover letter and everything, are there access points where the, I'll say,

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using appropriate language where they're going to be placed and I think that was somewhat of a concern

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to some of these advocacy individuals regarding where they're going to be placed or they're going

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to be placed in more of a residential area, one side of the city versus the other, can you provide any

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the type of details regarding that?

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Sure, important to understand that this agreement is limited,

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wireless devices, which are

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really nodes on polls and surfaces and is limited to the rights of the city of Hartford.

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For example, if you go out into most of the neighborhoods in Hartford and see telephone

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phone polls that are of

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this agreement does not include placement of wireless devices,

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jurisdiction of pura.

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And the city has no one to apply in that process.

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There are notification of that, for example, a homeowner or somebody in a commercial enterprise.

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where one of these wireless devices is going to be placed has to be noticed,

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but that's all on the jurisdiction.

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What we're doing here, again, are the placements of these small devices on rights of the city, mostly light poles

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that the city owns the danceens that come off of those light poles, that are owned by the city.

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So that's one thing.

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In our agreement with the Carrier is a provision that says, and I don't recall what the time agreement,

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the carrier will submit to the city of binding plan consisting of a map identifying the number in potential

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facilities that the carrier may deploy in the initial to me

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and their details regarding necessary equipment

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that her

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projected date ranges for permitting and construction, and that this notice is intended

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to afford the city with the final process, our staff needs construction activity at the

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various sites, the possibility of equipment on one pole.

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So if the variety

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T plan target the same pole, and let's say downtown, we would, this

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would give us an opportunity to consider what it would mean if we got an application on.

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So those are the kinds of things that, but again, that would only apply this

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agreement.

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I don't know if that sufficient question, TJ, but let me also add one of the things.

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this regard is about municipalities, in this case, with this agreement, if the

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The barriers want to deploy these small facilities in the neighborhoods on pole, but

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ever-sourced, or in the Haven UI, they would go up here.

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If we were talking about, for whatever reason, some tower, which really

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wondering how the Siding Council

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So, for example, there is a intent for, I think it's Verizon to cite in many tower zone by Trinity College. And there was specifically an issue about whether or not those

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did in the horizontal or whether they were required in our zones.

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and it was clear from a from a previously decided spirit

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their council

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the

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the deployment plan

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in replacing it's hours or my understanding is the 5G replaces the large cell towers so as these

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are deployed throughout the so those big you know kind of obstructive um towers be removed

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just become obsolete and still be there, but not in operation.

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I don't think that the meat will make obsolete the existing tower.

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The 5G rollout is going to take a number of years and I am not until most recently,

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For example, 3G technology has been shut, so wireless carriers no longer support that

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phones can no longer connect to a 3G network.

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A flip phone from 10 years ago that was connected to 3G for working.

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4G technology is such that it does alpha transmission between towers that are, you know, maybe

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miles apart. I think that's going to become obsolete for maybe more than a decade.

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think it's probably longer than that when you think about how long 3G was packed to

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some.

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By the way, how are through the phones are coming back to your interest?

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Well, good.

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Let's go to them.

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There is a brief conversation about this and it was New York, which is, you know, it's all

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sort of a city.

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And because there's been, you know, the larger areas of those towers are still there,

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even though all is at home, they actually don't need to send out some type of 5G device,

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but because I recall the conversation from Carrey's point of view,

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as well as the main effect of the period of time.

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Yeah, and until 5G shut off, and you will not be able to use a phone that is only connected

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to a 4G network, is there going to be necessary to provide wireless service?

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Thank you, Dr. Thomas.

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Yes.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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I have a follow-up question on the right-of-way.

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Were there any conversations on specific limitations on specific areas?

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Although, let's say that example, let's say like that's owned by the city,

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that qualifies on the right-of-way, so that is a potential

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The light pole happens to be right next to a school.

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Patients about having these devices or close to the school or hospital or some of those

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number of children or people congregate at the same time, although I know and I understand

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and the agreement calls for carriers

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to follow the FC relations.

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They are sectors of the community

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that are still a little bit concerned about these devices

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and the potential, speak

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to that.

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So, were there any establishes doing this agreement

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to say, okay, it's okay, the right way,

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but there are some exceptions, you know?

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So, I'm sorry to cut you off, go ahead.

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Okay, so read from the agreement in addition to the

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detailed term sheet we provided you all.

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In addition to the requisite information to

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submit a radio frequency emissions report

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with Calcutta and

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demonstrating the small wireless facilities will have applicable federal maximum permissible public exposure standards, both at grade, nearest occupied structures.

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So, I can't necessarily ask the emotional concern that folks may have about this technology

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and exposure to these wireless waves, but I can say that this is part of the deployment

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to

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these very specific standards.

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I'd also that

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the agreement is very specific about the fact

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that there are deployment of the small wireless devices.

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We'll not call this

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communications devices cable television broadcast radio

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or television systems, or satellite broads, or our purposes, specifically, or police fire department

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emissions, shots, fire, walkie-talkie, or other similar systems used in the city at the time

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of installation.

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That doesn't address your primary concern about location next to school, but to adhere

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to strict radio free standards and the wireless devices can't interfere with the operations

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of some critical emergency management equipment to the hands.

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Thank you. Mr. Chavon, one last question. On those 30 days, those 30 days that you mentioned

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that they have to submit a plan that most likely have more details about locations.

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During

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those 30 days, is there an opportunity, or is there like a public

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to have to list all

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mostly like, you know, this is the plan that we're submitting and then the city will determine

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you know, you know, the next steps, you know, or, you know, I would assume this is intended

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to give the city insight into what the plans by the carriers might,

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the alignment of these

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devices.

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And so, it's a

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figure out how to make sure that we have the resources and tools and

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application.

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Now, we still are all, we take a permit application and that would go to planning and it would be a public document.

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And there would be a public process where there would be an opportunity to

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weigh in and

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say, oh, we have a problem with it because we think that this might materially interfere

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with the hajula or traffic or pedestrian safety, for example, or something like that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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You know, I would just add on that point, oh, I'm sorry, I mean, it's a lot of matter.

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Now, you can go ahead, go ahead, Judge.

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And then I was going to say one of the important aspects of this agreement, I think, is that cars are for the recognition of how it has its own zoning process.

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And therefore, it's the entities and the carriers are willing to recognize that and say we'll be part of that process.

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And in addition to that, even besides zoning regulations, the carriers still have to get all the necessary to be able to deploy a device.

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So,

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Senator,

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with the city.

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Councilor Misogyn.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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I just

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wanted to look

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from reading the term I didn't see anything regarding that

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page

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that would be great.

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There's actually, I think that the pages aren't numbered.

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I apologize. Yeah. The second page of operations, yeah, under deployment plans. Okay. The

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same language is in the middle of the page, which is bold. Good faith. Right. You know,

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So as Judge Hullsberg pointed out, there is – don't have the ability under the FCC

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declaratory to impose this on carriers.

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But in the course of the negotiation with the carriers made it very clear of that while

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he made the decision. It is an expectation on the municipalities that they're going to work

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and

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in considering the notion that this technology should be available to all people in our

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I would add to that by my name that when we were at the

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K&K was present in the room as

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well as the chief counsel for the rise and deliver repeatedly to them and they heard

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that.

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This was not something that went to a middle level by buying and this has been a thing

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to all.

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I think it's been impressed by the senior leadership of

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critical importance.

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There's news. Still more you miss the cheer of an educating the community regarding this new,

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you know, 5G work than, you know, going into the schools, making sure, you know, that our educational

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educational system, you know, have the latest hygiene ways of getting into the internet.

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Would that goal be considered, or considered, you know, equitable goals that we could put

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on the table or can we put any equitable goals in the table?

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I'm looking for some additional language that I, so,

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yeah, opportunity

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to the carriers,

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any goals that

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equitable access to 5G,

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Councilwoman's Surgeon, we are not, we can't

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under the pre-conductor.

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Impose that as a requirement on the carriers, but both in the thing

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collaboratively or cooperatively

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it, bridging the digital divide if you would, and a conversation

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about any plans that

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you may develop around ensuring that there was equity or no equity, there would be that

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piece of it.

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specifically back to schools, my own view and Erin, you can correct me from what

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city

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of Hartford has been committed to in

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all of the schools in the city as opposed to wireless.

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So I think the access to 5G and its potential capabilities is at

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least today.

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Yeah, and Howard, I would just also add that you actually have to work

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for 5G overall.

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So, your point's well made that I think our focus has been where as much as we possibly

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can in connecting the schools to be able to support the infrastructure for the deployment

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of 5G in other times advance, so that really has been the city's focus, particularly as

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it relates to the neighbourhoods and such.

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Thank you.

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because I'm not a member of the committee.

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I'm waiting for one of my voting member colleagues.

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I'm finding the meal of all of some time out.

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Emotions to send these back to Council

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with a favourable recommendation.

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Motion has been made by Councilman Hernandez

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for favourable recommendations.

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They're set.

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Second.

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They're spent a second by Councilwoman Hercules.

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Any discussion on this item?

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Ain't saying none.

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All in favour?

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And they came by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Yeah, I have it. It's unanimous.

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Thank you very much for your presentation. Judge Holes,

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thank you much. You're welcome to stay on if you want to to see how, you know, how we do things

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here in the committee, but, you know, you might have things to do at your time. Well, probably getting

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on to my wife might be amongst them. So, I would do that, but thank you to meet you and thank you

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Thank you very much and thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Is that offer applied to me?

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Sure.

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How well?

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No, you can't.

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No, I'm staying on.

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Corporation Council.

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That's all right.

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Thank you.

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Depending on how long this presentation goes, you could get on.

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Item number two on our agenda is Mayor Brunner with a company resolution authorizing the

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or feels

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with uncollectible receivables

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and we have in our presence, Mary is Julian,

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our director of the office of, you may take it away.

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Oh, thank you.

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Good evening, members of the committee.

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Now, this is a write-off that is for a police private duty

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and fire private duty, the date back $7

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,000 split roughly

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in between the two layer, the city received no payments on these invoices in collection

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efforts in 2020 and then into 2021 when the city learned that the company had violent

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for bankruptcy,

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following a revenue policy, the revenue coordinator worked with Corporation

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Council to determine the collectibility and Corporation Council verified that the

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The Court had approved the sale of the company's assets to its secured creditors and that

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the debt could be written off.

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And so, where we are today, was this right off proposed to you?

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Thank you, Julian.

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What's the status policy as to how long we take to try to attempt to collect the money's

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old to us before we get to this point of writing off a collective fence.

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I don't think the policy specifies this direct timeline. I think it's a good faith effort

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to our regular invoicing process followed by demand letter or last call letter before

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were sending it to a collection agency or attempts by the collection agency, they come

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back with a recommendation or advises that the debt is not likely to be collected that

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way, then the revenue office would condition counsel to determine what the next steps would

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to be, so that's typically how, in terms of the sequence of steps, I think this one was

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delayed somewhat, you know, a budget office, and I think it slips through the cracks one

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later.

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That would be a question.

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All right.

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I mean, I think that defines it well.

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I think two things. One is, in this instance, the data is of the intervening bankruptcy.

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So that sort of created the fence

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to wait around any longer to try to collect this.

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The other thing, annually, you do the suspense book, which is not a write-off,

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But it takes off the book, books, what we think are largely uncollectable in the city.

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But then we spend a considerable amount of time, sometimes years, still trying to collect it.

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We just don't book it or put it in our account set of contingent liability.

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Okay.

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Thank you for that. You mentioned that this was private duty. Do you know particularly

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back in 2019 for a special event that took place?

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Well, it was time to so lay. So I built my

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different perspective around

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that time.

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When they set up the 10th down on Market Street.

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Yes. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Councilwoman Hercules.

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suggestion possibly this could be a budget free forehand for private duty that must be paid

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before the light stuff is given. I think that would avoid us getting in this type of situation where

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you know the business you know those binkrocks and then we end up with a pretty

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hefty bill. I don't know if that has been thought of with or maybe licensing,

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seeing whoever gives these permits, thinking about these type of large-scale events and what

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terms of officers and to be staffed, and that being a, you know, a fee, at least some portion of

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it being paid before the permits are given.

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Thank you for that. There are some provisions for

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someone as many years, but I will look at their ways to maybe make that a little bit more robust.

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on the surgeon. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. Following up on

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consulment, Hercules, Common, Payment. Individual, when they do higher

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off-duty, you know, police officers,

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are we saying that the policy for

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you know, event, that policy may not be there for those large events.

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So maybe you can send us what is the policy for hiring and the payment of, you know,

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yes, we're happy to do that.

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Thank you.

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Any more questions?

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The Chair entertain the motion.

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Make a motion to send it back to council with a favourable recommendation.

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It's been Hernandez for the favor of recommendation back to council, is there a second?

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A second.

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Yeah, the motion has been made.

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And also on the Hernandez, sorry, Hercules.

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I'm getting my A just mixed up.

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Any discussion on this item?

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Here in the scene on all in favor, indicate by saying aye.

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Aye.

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The ayes have it as unanimous as I am.

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That's for the favor of recommendation.

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I hope that you feel better, sounds like that you got a little something going on there.

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Okay, alright.

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Since we have no other items to discuss for this committee,

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it is now adjourned.

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Thank you very much for your time and your participation.

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I'm sorry.

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Mr. Chief Justice, act forward the public hearing.

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Thank you very much.

478
03:26:28,020 --> 03:26:31,360
So before you sign off,

479
03:26:36,310 --> 03:26:39,790
also I'm a Shirley surgeon and so she would love to,

480
03:26:41,990 --> 03:26:43,750
and if you have

481
03:26:43,750 --> 03:26:47,190
not done so, you still have time to sign up to speak in favor,

482
03:26:54,950 --> 03:26:56,210
and have a good evening.

483
03:26:56,990 --> 03:26:57,850
Stay safe out there.

484
03:26:58,170 --> 03:26:58,490
Take care.

485
03:26:59,070 --> 03:26:59,450
Good night.

486
03:26:59,450 --> 03:27:00,610
Thank you very much.

487
03:36:32,340 --> 03:36:32,760
Okay,

488
03:36:38,440 --> 03:36:56,000
evening, everyone, and welcome to this 2023 virtual public hearing. You can watch the public hearing on TV Comcast Channel 96 and HPA, sorry, and from tier government,

489
03:37:01,440 --> 03:37:11,830
ATV.org, HPATV RUCO, TV, Apple TV, Amazon TV apps.

490
03:37:13,290 --> 03:37:26,890
the public hearing is re-broadcast and made available and HBA TV. So again, good evening and welcome to the September 18, 2023.

491
03:37:28,870 --> 03:37:34,510
We have, first of all, good evening again. My name is Shirley Sergin. I'm sharing the public.

492
03:37:34,510 --> 03:37:40,790
We have with us Councilman Josh Misham, hey Josh how are you?

493
03:37:41,430 --> 03:37:45,130
We have Councilwoman to members

494
03:37:49,200 --> 03:37:51,000
of the public hearing tonight.

495
03:37:52,140 --> 03:37:59,860
We have one item on the agenda, but we should agree the rules governing the public hearing

496
03:37:59,860 --> 03:38:01,060
how it is conducted.

497
03:38:01,060 --> 03:38:09,640
it. Each person will also, or the committee, shall upon recognition of the presiding officer

498
03:38:09,640 --> 03:38:16,720
which is natureally surged, will give the address. And also, if he's representing a group,

499
03:38:17,360 --> 03:38:24,320
would state the name and record the name of said group. Each person or each group shall

500
03:38:24,320 --> 03:38:32,280
be given five minutes to make the remarks. All remarks shall be addressed to the body and not

501
03:38:32,280 --> 03:38:40,120
to any member, any person making a person an impertinent or a standard or some mark or comes

502
03:38:44,370 --> 03:38:51,450
shall be forth with barred by the proceeding of an audience as said meeting unless permission

503
03:38:51,450 --> 03:38:54,970
to remain is granted by two-thirds of the council.

504
03:38:56,550 --> 03:39:02,830
They shall be no debate by council, although questions may be asked by council

505
03:39:02,830 --> 03:39:10,810
to the presenter. There is one item on the agenda tonight at the public hearing, and

506
03:39:10,810 --> 03:39:20,150
that is item for Mayor Brounen with the accompanying resolution authorizing the city to purchase and

507
03:39:20,150 --> 03:39:24,970
sales agreement for the acquisition of two parcels currently owned,

508
03:39:26,990 --> 03:39:29,330
1453, Main Street

509
03:39:29,330 --> 03:39:31,050
and ADA-90.

510
03:39:33,210 --> 03:39:36,450
That's the item on the agenda to be discussed.

511
03:39:39,060 --> 03:39:40,080
So the

512
03:39:44,940 --> 03:39:47,600
item is allowed to

513
03:39:47,600 --> 03:39:54,220
speak in favor, and the item is allowed to speak against the item that I have read.

514
03:39:54,220 --> 03:39:56,120
But signing up to

515
03:39:59,900 --> 03:40:09,420
address this item, but I will also give some people coming in late to

516
03:40:09,420 --> 03:40:11,200
address the item on the agenda.

517
03:40:11,800 --> 03:40:13,980
So I will ask three times

518
03:40:17,470 --> 03:40:25,850
on the agenda item 2.1, anyone speaking in favor on the agenda

519
03:40:25,850 --> 03:40:28,630
item 2.1 of

520
03:40:33,270 --> 03:40:38,930
item 2.1 on the agenda is there anyone speaking against?

521
03:40:41,970 --> 03:40:43,850
Is there item? Is there

522
03:40:43,850 --> 03:40:52,850
anyone here speaking against item 2.1 in the agenda? Is there anyone here speaking against

523
03:40:52,850 --> 03:40:54,750
the item on the agenda.

524
03:40:57,420 --> 03:41:05,940
Hearing no one speaking for or against item 2.1 on the agenda. I'm going to

525
03:41:05,940 --> 03:41:17,800
adjourn the public hearing to remind everyone that there will be a council meeting on September 25th

526
03:41:17,800 --> 03:41:27,900
and to state that and that would be a hybrid meeting of in person and on the

527
03:41:27,900 --> 03:41:35,400
Internet. So barring and seeing no one to speak on that item 2.1 I hereby

528
03:41:35,400 --> 03:41:41,640
a join the meeting. Thank you all for attending. Have a good evening everyone.

529
03:41:44,080 --> 03:41:44,720
Good night.

530
04:06:40,110 --> 04:06:50,710
Okay, we are live. Hello, it's been a while. I'm looking with us. We have Director of Public Works, Michael Looney,

531
04:06:51,850 --> 04:07:00,850
Court Council, Jim Delvis, you know, Combs, a subsidiary from our Director of Office of Sustainability,

532
04:07:02,090 --> 04:07:07,130
Craig, who works with me in my office. And I do not see any council people.

533
04:07:07,130 --> 04:07:13,670
So let's see, I have a text here, no, not from them.

534
04:07:14,870 --> 04:07:20,630
And we have Kevin Melizia wants to be on the golf commission.

535
04:07:20,890 --> 04:07:23,370
So let's wait one more second.

536
04:07:23,630 --> 04:07:26,910
Let me read three things we always say.

537
04:07:27,030 --> 04:07:31,370
This is the Thursday, September 14, 2023.

538
04:07:32,250 --> 04:07:32,810
I

539
04:07:35,720 --> 04:07:37,500
am the chair, Marilyn Rosetti.

540
04:07:37,500 --> 04:07:44,960
On this committee is also Nick LeBron, Councilman John Gale, and Councilman Shirley Surgeon.

541
04:07:46,020 --> 04:07:54,420
We like to read that this is broadcast and it's streamed through CPATV, Comcast and Frontier

542
04:07:54,420 --> 04:07:55,180
Government channels,

543
04:07:58,520 --> 04:08:07,060
also be streamed via hpatv.org, the HPATV Facebook, and HPATV's Roku TV,

544
04:08:07,060 --> 04:08:11,180
Apple TV and Amazon TV apps. It will also

545
04:08:13,800 --> 04:08:15,240
tube channel.

546
04:08:17,280 --> 04:08:22,880
Hmm. Hmm. Delvisco. What do we

547
04:08:22,880 --> 04:08:27,680
do if you don't have anybody? Well, if there's just one person, you can't conduct any business.

548
04:08:27,680 --> 04:08:28,800
I know.

549
04:08:29,960 --> 04:08:31,140
All right.

550
04:08:31,440 --> 04:08:31,880
I am.

551
04:08:34,360 --> 04:08:34,960
I

552
04:08:37,940 --> 04:08:39,300
think it's right now.

553
04:08:42,090 --> 04:08:43,490
Don't know where they are.

554
04:08:45,270 --> 04:08:47,490
We have cited

555
04:08:54,400 --> 04:08:59,480
when people want to come on to commissions and boards in the city

556
04:08:59,480 --> 04:09:06,540
because your time you're doing something that certainly you have an interest in.

557
04:09:06,600 --> 04:09:08,300
I'm sure you have an interest in golf.

558
04:09:08,300 --> 04:09:15,440
Kevin up beyond the golf commission and we're all we love when people want to do that.

559
04:09:15,620 --> 04:09:20,420
So if we can get the person on here, I think Nick's going to come on hold on a minute.

560
04:09:22,620 --> 04:09:23,020
Then

561
04:09:30,830 --> 04:09:35,750
we can then pass

562
04:09:39,780 --> 04:09:41,780
the next council meeting.

563
04:09:42,280 --> 04:09:44,160
I mean, how is everybody?

564
04:09:44,640 --> 04:09:45,760
How are you, Dr. Mooney?

565
04:09:45,840 --> 04:09:46,500
Are we all set?

566
04:09:46,660 --> 04:09:47,860
Did we have our...

567
04:09:50,420 --> 04:09:54,400
Yeah, we had our internal snow meeting. We've got our bigger one coming up later.

568
04:09:55,180 --> 04:09:59,980
Well, so what is it going to be? No snow is that what it is? Is that the plan? I hope not, but, um,

569
04:10:00,780 --> 04:10:04,120
not, uh, not a betting man's. Okay.

570
04:10:05,640 --> 04:10:12,800
Put any money on it. Um, yes, so we're getting ready for that and, uh, and relief season is.

571
04:10:13,520 --> 04:10:21,500
Um, leave season. So where, if people want to know, where are those, um, where will, where do we

572
04:10:21,500 --> 04:10:28,960
usually at least pick up dates will be. Do we send that out? Is it on our is it on the city website?

573
04:10:30,380 --> 04:10:35,660
Yeah, we usually do all the usual channels working with Janice Castle.

574
04:10:38,100 --> 04:10:41,420
So it should be available in multiple places.

575
04:10:41,880 --> 04:10:44,740
And do we have a date when it's going to be start? Well, first, the Leafs have to

576
04:10:46,120 --> 04:10:54,760
Yeah, we still have to do our internal leaves and that's actually coming up early next week, so everyone

577
04:10:58,240 --> 04:11:02,500
can't wait to rake their leaves or blow them into the street.

578
04:11:03,340 --> 04:11:03,820
Yes.

579
04:11:05,060 --> 04:11:09,120
Okay, so one person is trying to get on, I don't know what that means,

580
04:11:13,500 --> 04:11:14,520
it's 534.

581
04:11:14,520 --> 04:11:22,260
I feel so bad. I'm sorry, Kevin. It's no reflection, believe it. It's more of a reflection

582
04:11:22,260 --> 04:11:22,780
on me.

583
04:11:24,280 --> 04:11:28,260
Not at all. As they say, stuff happened.

584
04:11:29,140 --> 04:11:35,600
That's true. That is true. It's still kind of that people are still like us in the summer

585
04:11:35,600 --> 04:11:36,060
to fall.

586
04:11:36,820 --> 04:11:43,120
So what makes you, let's talk amongst ourselves. What makes you want to come on the golf

587
04:11:43,120 --> 04:11:51,240
commission. I am the president and men's club at Goodwin. Okay. I've been playing there on and

588
04:11:51,240 --> 04:11:59,880
off for five years. Okay. And I grew up in the city. I'm still living in the city, of course.

589
04:12:00,400 --> 04:12:08,820
Yep. And I would like a better understanding of every time they say they're going to

590
04:12:09,880 --> 04:12:14,860
The money's allotted and then the money disappears and nothing gets done.

591
04:12:15,160 --> 04:12:16,700
Well, it doesn't really disappear.

592
04:12:17,300 --> 04:12:18,600
Well, I understand.

593
04:12:19,640 --> 04:12:20,880
It gets used for something.

594
04:12:21,680 --> 04:12:25,520
But when it's allotted, it should be used for what it's allotted.

595
04:12:26,520 --> 04:12:31,860
I think you're going to learn a lot and you're going to feel far more satisfied, believe me.

596
04:12:32,400 --> 04:12:33,160
Well, I know.

597
04:12:33,760 --> 04:12:36,180
Possibly start some stuff this year.

598
04:12:36,180 --> 04:12:39,900
But and they absolutely are Kevin. Yeah,

599
04:12:45,360 --> 04:12:50,440
chair over the last 20 years in what's the difference in golf? Have you seen?

600
04:12:51,060 --> 04:12:58,060
I mean, actually, if you go back to before machete he

601
04:13:15,660 --> 04:13:17,380
ran into the ground.

602
04:13:17,940 --> 04:13:20,840
So ever since Joe

603
04:13:26,440 --> 04:13:34,020
men's what I'm more thinking golf in general, what has been your, you know,

604
04:13:34,020 --> 04:13:42,860
You know, as you've seen, you know, some people playing as it been, you know, the same age people like has golf. Well, it's golf.

605
04:13:42,860 --> 04:13:44,800
Are there more women?

606
04:13:45,760 --> 04:13:46,120
A sense.

607
04:13:47,020 --> 04:13:47,660
Yeah.

608
04:13:47,780 --> 04:13:49,780
It's a big upswing in golf.

609
04:13:50,680 --> 04:13:53,300
Is that a play on words there?

610
04:13:55,830 --> 04:13:59,550
It's, you know, there is more women.

611
04:13:59,970 --> 04:14:01,650
We do years back.

612
04:14:01,650 --> 04:14:09,950
they started the Spanish women's league and it's not just for Spanish women but that's what it's

613
04:14:09,950 --> 04:14:14,050
called. I was asked to join but I am actually not a golfer. I didn't want to ruin it for every day.

614
04:14:14,350 --> 04:14:20,970
Actually my sisters are both these impasses and they play as much as possible.

615
04:14:20,970 --> 04:14:29,570
They're ones that bring me on the course 35 years but when I was growing up you played football,

616
04:14:29,570 --> 04:14:38,890
basketball and baseball. But it's a very addicting sport once you start playing it.

617
04:14:38,910 --> 04:14:48,390
It is, it is. I am wondering, Nick's not getting on. He says he's trying.

618
04:14:54,460 --> 04:14:54,680
Yes.

619
04:14:54,680 --> 04:14:54,820
Yes.

620
04:14:55,120 --> 04:14:59,960
We can have it with Kevin Mullizia, Mr. Mullizia.

621
04:15:00,050 --> 04:15:04,810
And we actually at council, even if we do someone.

622
04:15:10,160 --> 04:15:34,580
Well, I think you need a, I think you need a favor. Do you though? I believe you do, yeah. I mean, I'm asking you, you're the lawyer. You know, so what you're saying. I'd hate for him to have to come back to another committee meeting. Someone who wants to do this because there are way to, I understand.

623
04:15:34,580 --> 04:15:37,380
you know what you're saying is there a way to get it on the agenda?

624
04:15:44,640 --> 04:15:45,640
I mean things can,

625
04:15:45,960 --> 04:15:51,540
you know, if there's no, I mean, there can be a recommendation that's not favorable

626
04:15:51,540 --> 04:15:54,360
and it can still go back on the agenda, you know. Right.

627
04:15:57,360 --> 04:15:59,020
So there's no recommendation

628
04:15:59,020 --> 04:16:00,320
can it go on the agenda?

629
04:16:03,420 --> 04:16:06,080
Or if there's no action on it, so

630
04:16:08,130 --> 04:16:10,730
we know. Yeah.

631
04:16:10,730 --> 04:16:17,710
The worst case can scenario come next month and I apologize, but or you would or you would

632
04:16:17,710 --> 04:16:19,930
or you would have another special.

633
04:16:24,440 --> 04:16:27,100
The problem is you remember the ordinance.

634
04:16:27,440 --> 04:16:34,410
You don't have the same problem. The ordinance says that there if there's no action taken within 60 days,

635
04:16:35,490 --> 04:16:41,990
you need to be approved. That's true. That's true. So 60 days from committee meeting

636
04:16:41,990 --> 04:16:42,510
or 15

637
04:16:44,560 --> 04:16:49,020
from the date of the day was that do you have that in front of you? I don't have that.

638
04:16:49,060 --> 04:16:56,620
It was August 14th. So on October 14th, if no actions taken, it's done anyway, right?

639
04:16:57,000 --> 04:17:11,140
Right. Okay. That work, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yes. So, so, and this is not how we use the yes,

640
04:17:16,480 --> 04:17:28,840
I'm looking for it to send it to him okay let me I have an email then we can just do it hold on let's see

641
04:17:35,280 --> 04:17:36,540
you got it I

642
04:17:37,520 --> 04:17:39,620
gotta get his email all

643
04:17:43,780 --> 04:17:52,040
right I'll tell him I just sent it hold on Kevin we're usually so much more

644
04:17:52,040 --> 04:18:03,600
organizing this. Back me up, director Looney and director. Come on. Let's hear it. Say, I can talk.

645
04:18:04,600 --> 04:18:05,000
All right,

646
04:18:09,350 --> 04:18:13,350
I think Mick will be on in a second and then we can have a more formal, then we'll have a

647
04:18:15,800 --> 04:18:20,840
real, we'll be awesome. It could be official or it could be unofficial or it would always be a

648
04:18:21,440 --> 04:18:27,440
like to be able to send it back favorable and then we vote on it on the 25th and then you're in.

649
04:18:28,460 --> 04:18:34,030
hit the ground running and you can find out where you

650
04:18:46,900 --> 04:18:48,760
see why it's to be

651
04:18:48,760 --> 04:18:59,700
texted to him. I'm sending it to me. Okay I sent it to your personal email

652
04:18:59,700 --> 04:19:03,460
that's what I said okay. Yeah it opens

653
04:19:07,040 --> 04:19:11,900
up. Thank you Kevin. I'm just saying.

654
04:19:24,510 --> 04:19:28,760
We've got the Sherman any

655
04:19:37,050 --> 04:19:38,730
second now. We're going to see him

656
04:19:46,030 --> 04:19:53,430
this was any of these meetings for the golf commissioner normally Tuesday nights. No, that no, that yeah.

657
04:19:54,050 --> 04:19:58,570
Commission director one Wednesday Wednesday nights Wednesday nights.

658
04:19:58,570 --> 04:19:59,790
the second Wednesday.

659
04:20:01,610 --> 04:20:02,710
By the first.

660
04:20:04,070 --> 04:20:06,190
It's the third Wednesday of the day.

661
04:20:06,190 --> 04:20:06,850
The third Wednesday.

662
04:20:07,910 --> 04:20:09,930
Oh, here's Councilman Lebron.

663
04:20:10,070 --> 04:20:10,410
Okay.

664
04:20:10,590 --> 04:20:12,390
We can get this show on the road.

665
04:20:12,570 --> 04:20:13,230
Thank you, Councilman.

666
04:20:13,310 --> 04:20:15,530
We just have this one item.

667
04:20:15,930 --> 04:20:17,230
We have a commission.

668
04:20:21,970 --> 04:20:23,950
We want them to be on the golf commission.

669
04:20:24,410 --> 04:20:26,250
We're going to hear a little bit from him on.

670
04:20:31,870 --> 04:20:34,310
I hope with your input.

671
04:20:37,060 --> 04:20:44,080
for Monday so Kevin let's let's start back all over again and it's so good to see you why do you

672
04:20:44,080 --> 04:20:53,380
want to be on the golf commission? Well as I said earlier I'm a avid golfer I play both courses

673
04:20:53,380 --> 04:21:04,240
more good in Keeney that's where I have us I'm interested in you know all like I said before all

674
04:21:05,810 --> 04:21:14,790
what happens to it. I mean I used to talk with Jerry, bless his soul before you know and so

675
04:21:14,790 --> 04:21:18,050
he kind of kept me apprised to what's going on.

676
04:21:21,420 --> 04:21:25,780
Closed with the pros at Goodie and Ralph over at

677
04:21:27,180 --> 04:21:35,060
Keeney. We set up a tournament where we play each other and just for the city itself I've been a

678
04:21:35,060 --> 04:21:42,840
city resident. I think I moved out for six months once and then I was back. So, and that's not too long.

679
04:21:43,840 --> 04:21:49,360
And don't worry, the six months that you didn't lose it.

680
04:21:50,080 --> 04:22:00,960
And I voted. And I just wanted to be more involved in I guess some of the decision. I know we don't

681
04:22:00,960 --> 04:22:09,280
make recommendations, right? Yeah. But it would be good to be involved, but I mean, it's not

682
04:22:09,280 --> 04:22:17,580
a lot of play, but this is kind of important to me. And there's a lot of people that ask me what's

683
04:22:17,580 --> 04:22:20,140
going on. It'd be nice.

684
04:22:25,060 --> 04:22:29,820
Councilman LeBron, would you ask some questions? No, not a question.

685
04:22:29,820 --> 04:22:39,540
So first of all, Kevin, thank you for your dedication and your commitment to the city and your wanting this to be involved in a advisory mission.

686
04:22:40,240 --> 04:22:55,960
You know, the golf has been during my term on council becoming, I believe, even more important, the heart for it and what we, what we provide for not only folks who live in the city.

687
04:22:55,960 --> 04:23:02,940
I just didn't so one of the things that I would ask if you can continue and I told folks on the other golf committee

688
04:23:03,500 --> 04:23:07,860
And so the golf thing is that we need some baseline

689
04:23:09,960 --> 04:23:11,000
Like financial

690
04:23:12,280 --> 04:23:18,000
Folks not just what they pay for golf but what the city gets financially

691
04:23:18,000 --> 04:23:24,020
Purple you know an average of what they bring to our communities every time they come golf

692
04:23:24,020 --> 04:23:32,520
and what I mean is that the likelihood is that they launch somewhere by a soda, get some gas.

693
04:23:33,000 --> 04:23:39,180
You got it, got it. And if we could come up with a number, that would be not only to

694
04:23:39,180 --> 04:23:44,340
force within the golf community, but to the broader community as well. So just as light

695
04:23:45,140 --> 04:23:51,060
become a figure service. There's no problem. I get it. I can take it up. There's a bunch of

696
04:23:51,060 --> 04:23:57,320
But golf, most of them are all from out of town, the people that play in the golf league.

697
04:23:57,680 --> 04:23:59,980
So they're in here spending money at the restaurant.

698
04:24:00,660 --> 04:24:06,700
And I'm sure stopping at local restaurants here in the south end and in the north end,

699
04:24:06,780 --> 04:24:07,820
I know every time I go,

700
04:24:09,880 --> 04:24:13,840
did you make an acre or the ranch house or whatever.

701
04:24:14,500 --> 04:24:16,300
So I mean, it works for us too.

702
04:24:17,460 --> 04:24:20,020
Yeah, no, it's a very good point.

703
04:24:20,020 --> 04:24:33,180
So, you know, as I said, we really pre-commissioned for the city, and again, you said, well, we don't make decisions, but you know, we take the information

704
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put in positions very seriously, because you're a part of a commission, because clearly you have a passion and an interest for that,

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and many a

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colleague, Councilman LeBron, went out, you know,

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it's important, you know, it's a sport that nights,

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walks a life.

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And we're lucky enough that we have these two beautiful courses in the city.

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You know, I'm excited to keep, you know, I know there's a cost to it,

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but because we have wonderful director Looney here, we've been able to

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get over the last few years.

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But what it does is we like people to come into the city and have a good experience.

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And it's a just another way for

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yeah, yeah, okay, so I'll make a motion to

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That's right

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Okay, council

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City council meeting. I will second that

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Ever hi

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Okay, that passes so that means it will be sent back favorably. It will be on the agenda on the

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After that night you will be well will vote but you know 99.99 it'll be okay

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And you will be a

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I

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know I know

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Cecilia you were here was there anything you wanted to speak to tonight or you were just gracious enough to

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Committee

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Yeah, this was hanging out. Oh, well, thank you and and thank you for letting us know we were awarded money for more trees

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Thank

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you. Thank you Jim

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Thank you Charmaine Danielle Mike

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Also, thanks Kevin motion to adjourn. Thank you. Have a great night. You all right

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Let me quickly introduce them so we can get to questions so you guys can hear what they have to say. So we have at the end with Arunan, Arulabalam. He is CEO of Hartford Landbank, previously Deputy Commissioner of the Department of Consumer Protection, and previously corporate attorney in the Hartford-based law firm of Udike Kelly.

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Thanks a lot. All right. And I'll keep it short so we can get time.

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So,

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he served as state representative from 1986 to 1986

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district.

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He holds or has head officials including Chair Finance, Revenue and Bonding Committee,

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and the Energy and Technology Committee.

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And finally, former Chair Eric served as a state representative from 1983 to 1994, served as

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State Senator Rep. District from 1995 to 2017 and served as House Majority

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Web in 1991 and 1993. So how about around the Pulse or our candidates.

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So let me as

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I shuffle my papers,

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let me assure you probably answer the thousand times

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already on the campaign trail and it's a very straightforward at the very end

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to run in and move across. And that first question is, why do you want to be the next

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mayor of the city?

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It was like it might be an underestimation. First of all, let me say thank you to the

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organizer.

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And thank you to Faith Congregational Church. This is a historic church where we're

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in. I've been in church a number of times. A wife is a congregational minister as well.

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One of the sister churches. Faith has been such a great partnership. In fact, I think you

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You guys are switching churches and preaching some Sunday coming up.

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But also such a special justice of

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faith.

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What we are talking about as mayor is physical transformations that might be like an economic

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system, and housing, and education, and inequality.

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But congregations like this are talking about spiritual transformation,

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and so the work that

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you guys do at faith is so,

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my name is Arun and I'm the CEO of the Hartford Landbank, running

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from May. And I do have a canned response that I could give. But as I was coming in, Reverend

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Cleo handed each of us these is

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one of my favorite verses from Matthew. The verse, the city

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on a hill cannot be hidden in

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so many different ways, so many layered ways. But I'll start

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here for tonight. It doesn't say a city on a hill or a city with with the right redevelopment

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plan cannot be hidden. Our city with the right mayor cannot be hidden.

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It says a city on a hill

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because there's something unique about lifting people to

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tell you there is so much light and power

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and potential in the people of the city of Hartford and I see

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in each of our neighborhoods and what we

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could be if we work together and if we can lift up our city all

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of the entrepreneurship all of the

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creativity that we need to be to be can be built right here in the north end of Hartford in the south

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and of Hartford and communities across this city of Hartford that have seen investment but still carry

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all of the potential and the greatness to be something unique and for mayor create those pathways.

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It's what I've done as CEO of the Hartford Landbank where where we take viking and blighted properties

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from the city of Hartford just redeveloping in ourselves or handing it over to big developers.

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We train Hartford residents, we've created this program that's the first of its

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Where we train Hartford residents to redevelop these properties, connect them to capital to be successful.

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So that as we're redeveloping neighborhoods, they're going to Hartford residents to be the source,

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the backbone of what's possible in the future.

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It's something that helps

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on our street, in a neighborhood with a 7% home ownership rate.

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And with our family, we have five young kids who are going to public school in this city because we believe in what this city can be.

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You are as well, and that's why you're here, but I want to be a mayor who fights for you, who is already here in this city of Hartford.

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And I look forward to talking about that tonight.

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All right, thanks a lot.

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It's something to have fun for.

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I

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think they're already on, maybe.

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Good afternoon.

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Good evening, everyone.

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And thank you, everyone, for sponsoring and holding this event tonight.

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We've I think this form something like that starting to forget how many

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Pastor, I thank you for opening up the doors to your church for us here

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in for

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Jeffrey and Fernando for for moderating and not moderating but for leading us into the

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My name's John Fonferra. I'm the state senator. I was mentioned in the introduction

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My line is right around here in terms of

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My senate district, I represent about 65, and that's all the south end, all the most

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of downtown, Frog Hollow, the

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east side of the north end.

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Hartford Current for years would say, Fundfare Represents, South Hartford and West.

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I grew up in Hartford, born and raised in rice sites in the south west of the schools

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in Buckley High.

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And I have fought for and advocated for the city of Hartford for all my time in the legislature for the bulk of my adult life.

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And I love this city.

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My parents at 99 and 98 years old are still here.

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Why am I running for mayor after all my years in the legislature?

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Because

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I can't do from where I am in the senate.

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in the way I believe I can.

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And what is that?

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Too many of our neighborhoods, and this one is sadly ground zero,

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in terms of reducing poverty,

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reduced,

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or almost no opportunity for so many who live in high poverty.

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And I don't believe city hall, city government is on the right path

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in terms of addressing issues that need to be addressed.

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I think we are pretty much in the city government operating the way we did in the 1960s and 70s.

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And I believe the mayor of Hartford has to be different in terms of what should be done.

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And what is that?

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Our educational system, and I don't just say the school system, I believe the education system,

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Because we have seated the response for

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the first five years of a child's life is the

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most important.

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What we get right there will mean so much to that young person.

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And in the rest of their life, in terms of their income, capacity to enjoy the quality of life that so many in this state take for granted.

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And I believe in terms of skilling up our residents to command a better wage. This is one of the neighborhoods of Hartford. And I'll get into that, I'm sure the opportunity will allow me in greater details when we forward. But I believe there are so much more in changing the path of the neighborhoods that are

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where our endocline, where poverty's increased and where most of the gun violence is taking place,

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it's in those high poverty census tracks of our city, of which we're at one point.

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And I thank you for the opportunity to be to introduce myself.

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Thank you.

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Senator.

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Senator.

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Thank you for the opening question.

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I also think the organizers of this event and past that I bring you greetings from Metropolitan Design.

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My home church, right across the street, your neighboring church, also one of the

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Hartford Volts in the San Juan Center and BSL education foundation as well as

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the Cleveland neighborhood revitalization zone. So directly responding to the

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question, I want to thank Hartford because like my fellow candidates, I care a lot

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and love Hartford. I care about that.

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I think I have the experience, the background,

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and the ability

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to get things done in order to refer.

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A very difficult thing for me,

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a person who's been oriented for most of my life, to sit on the sidelines and to see some

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with respect to the city of Hartford and not want to do anything about it.

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Yes, Spectator, I want to be directly involved in

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programs and services that are going to be beneficial to the city and to the state of the city.

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The first came to Hartford and Hartford at that point was a very

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engaged corporate community

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community, which promote and support social responsibility, there were a number of attractions

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including us like the Whalers.

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We've always had a very attractive and entertainment community of G-Fox and Sage Allen, where the

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featured establishments in downtown Hartford.

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All of that, and on top of that,

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back in the day,

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where near the frequency and regularity of senseless gun violence that's occurring today is

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It's a priority concern for me in one and

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address the issue of public safety in Hartford.

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Also, the schools need to be improved and we need to pay, not only in schools, but

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we need to

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put them, we take advantage of the opportunity under the influence of responsible

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adults who can impart to them important community values,

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authority, respect for human life,

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and also to engage in care and

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other very important that we hope our young people have.

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There is a concentration in

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the city of Hartford, and that most certainly needs to be addressed

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to get to point in the discussion where all of us will be able to provide some details

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05:20:02,590 --> 05:20:05,150
about, and

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I certainly have my thoughts and ideas which I share with everyone here.

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So thank you for the question.

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And thanks to all three candidates and so

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as we continue with the discussion, just keep

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keep that in mind, which is much of a discussion or dialogue between all three of you as possible.

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Several of you have mentioned education as an important sort of city, and certainly

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as an educator, I'll be starting classes next week myself, classes are starting soon

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in the city of Hartfield.

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One of the things that

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has many unfilled teaching positions in the city.

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So the first question is done to attract and to retain high-quality teachers.

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So I'll take a stab at that question first.

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I have a written proposal, which is what would be done in order to improve the Hartford

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05:21:16,450 --> 05:21:17,310
public schools.

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And the teacher's shortage is a great concern and there are a number of reasons for the teacher's

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05:21:25,610 --> 05:21:34,530
shortage. Not the least it is that there are greener pastures. Some of you may not know

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05:21:34,530 --> 05:21:42,690
that the teachers in Hartford work more hours or less than all of the other school districts

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05:21:42,690 --> 05:21:52,270
in the capital region. That is somewhat of a disadvantage or a disincentive for teachers.

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goals is to address compensation for teachers and particularly for those teachers who

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desire in the city of Hartford, I think they deserve a 3% increase in their

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compensation in order to provide some further incentive for teachers to teach and to

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reside in Hartford. I think we need to take advantage of a market rate mortgage to mortgage

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05:22:28,660 --> 05:22:34,380
assistance programs and give teachers the opportunity to buy homes in the city of Hartford.

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Compensation and benefits need to be increased for Hartford teachers, but in order to

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The

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current Superintendents initiative to recruit in Puerto Rico are being, and because

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so many of our students are black and brown, I would also recruit them in efforts through

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the historically black colleges and universities in the United States.

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This

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is so many of us know intellectually that it's hard to be a teacher.

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05:23:17,050 --> 05:23:22,770
was a teacher and I saw it each day when we first came to the United States from Zimbabwe

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05:23:22,770 --> 05:23:24,850
in the late 80s. I'm

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$19,000 a year and every night you come home bone time. So I saw it each

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day. I don't think I fully appreciated it until COVID hit and I became an impromptu teacher

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for four little guys who all go to school in the city of Hartford and each day try to hold

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ourselves together while just teaching these four little kids and I think every parent

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05:23:53,810 --> 05:23:59,790
during that time realized how teachers are, how hard teachers work and what a unique skill

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it is to be able to command a classroom and to impart knowledge to kids as I've talked

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to teachers and our campaign, we held a happy hour for educators across the system to tell

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them, look, we're here with you, we want to hear from you, we want to build a relationship

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05:24:16,490 --> 05:24:24,460
person to person. What's really clear is that so many of our teachers feel like their concerns

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05:24:24,460 --> 05:24:29,020
aren't being listened to, they aren't being met, that members don't

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spend time in schools,

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walking through schools, getting to know each school in our district. First of all, I'm

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a parent of kids in public school, I've got skin in the game, I'm going to be really active

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05:24:42,730 --> 05:24:48,790
and involved in those hearing from teachers, person to person, because we've lost a lot

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of really great teachers in the years during the pandemic and coming out of the pandemic,

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people who have been in these school systems for decades and who know a lot and who care

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05:24:59,630 --> 05:25:01,550
so much for these kids.

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And so we need to keep eating and make sure teachers feel supported, that they're supported both in their salaries, but also in our school systems.

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And then recruitment efforts need to start early.

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People are starting to recruit out of insurance.

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So when we start recruiting late in the spring, as we understand what staffing looks like next year, it's already too late.

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And we know each year, year after year, we're going to have to recruit a large number of students.

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And so we've got relationships as a district with our HBCUs, as was mentioned.

931
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And with schools that have potentially teachers that come in out that are able to relate to kids at Hartford.

932
05:25:47,630 --> 05:25:50,090
But we've got to start that recruiting a lot earlier in the cycle.

933
05:25:51,270 --> 05:25:58,130
Then we should look at, as Judge Coleman said, recruiting in other countries to fill the backfill vacancies.

934
05:25:59,370 --> 05:26:11,090
There's a lot of really good teachers, potentially really good teachers coming out of schools right now, and if we can start recruiting them earlier on in their college, I think we can build those relationships, I think we can get a lot more here in Hartford.

935
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Certainly compensation is a factor, there's no question.

936
05:26:19,070 --> 05:26:22,990
And I think if we want to attract compensation

937
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has to be a front line issue.

938
05:26:27,800 --> 05:26:29,560
But I think overall,

939
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questions in which teachers and

940
05:26:33,500 --> 05:26:38,260
pair educators experience in the classroom where right now,

941
05:26:38,480 --> 05:26:40,360
children, entering kindergarten,

942
05:26:40,680 --> 05:26:44,960
unready in Hartford, particularly in our neighborhood schools.

943
05:26:45,360 --> 05:26:50,370
Magna schools, but in our neighborhood schools,

944
05:26:52,150 --> 05:27:01,990
Sanchez, I could name 6 or 7, sadly entering in the state requires every kindergarten to be assessed when they enter.

945
05:27:02,890 --> 05:27:10,590
And if you look at the program and provide them for you, it's unacceptable that we allow this to happen.

946
05:27:10,750 --> 05:27:14,970
There are 1100 slots for preschool in Hartford that are being taken right now.

947
05:27:16,490 --> 05:27:19,490
146th of the state took back already, not part of the 1100.

948
05:27:20,350 --> 05:27:27,070
We have to, and a mayor can make this a priority in terms of policy, but in terms of the voice

949
05:27:27,070 --> 05:27:35,050
of the mayor, to convince moms, pregnant moms and young moms that formal preschool, quality

950
05:27:35,050 --> 05:27:41,370
preschool will make such a difference in their child's beginning, reading by third grade

951
05:27:41,370 --> 05:27:45,890
in which many of our children are not, many are reading far beyond, not reading far beyond

952
05:27:45,890 --> 05:27:52,610
that grade in the Hartford School, only 22% of our 11th and 12th graders in Hartford right

953
05:27:52,610 --> 05:28:04,290
now are for post-secondary life, 22%. That's what we are doing. Essentially providing

954
05:28:04,290 --> 05:28:12,970
a workforce for low wage employers in Hartford, for Walmart, for dollar stores, and when those young

955
05:28:12,970 --> 05:28:21,870
people figure out what we've left them with, is there any wonder a small percentage but some end

956
05:28:21,870 --> 05:28:32,610
up in gang life and with a gun? Where they are the future of our city? If we want to know where Hartford

957
05:28:32,610 --> 05:28:36,190
will be in ten years from looking at those scores.

958
05:28:37,170 --> 05:28:41,030
The Calvary is not coming folks, I've been in legislature for a long time.

959
05:28:41,810 --> 05:28:48,650
The federal Calvary is our responsibility, and the role of the next mayor, whoever that

960
05:28:48,650 --> 05:28:56,370
person is, I hope they're serious about our future, for our young people, to give them

961
05:28:56,370 --> 05:29:02,810
a life in the neighborhoods and families where their parents didn't get a good education

962
05:29:02,810 --> 05:29:07,150
themselves. And we expect the

963
05:29:09,740 --> 05:29:14,080
line in West Hartford does, maybe two parents with a college

964
05:29:14,080 --> 05:29:14,460
education

965
05:29:16,760 --> 05:29:23,340
award, they've been rewarded because of it. We have to accept that they are and

966
05:29:23,340 --> 05:29:27,520
go to work, ensure that every child in this city, and if I'm the mayor of Hartford will have

967
05:29:27,520 --> 05:29:36,500
an office of education in City Hall to ensure that every child is in preschool, every child

968
05:29:36,500 --> 05:29:40,900
reading by every student graduates with the skills to go to college or

969
05:29:40,900 --> 05:29:45,200
career. We have Prince Tech in Hartford, Prince Tech in Hartford that no

970
05:29:45,200 --> 05:29:46,260
merit embrace the

971
05:29:48,910 --> 05:29:53,110
equation of Prince Tech this year and guess how many

972
05:29:53,110 --> 05:29:58,310
graduate in electrical. If you're in a, you're pretty much set financially, three

973
05:29:58,310 --> 05:29:59,750
people graduate.

974
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:06,680
Three students graduated from electrical, from print, a school city. It might as well be in

975
05:30:06,680 --> 05:30:14,580
Avon in terms of how our city embraces that school. We never have. And I will in terms of

976
05:30:14,580 --> 05:30:19,520
get attracting teachers, will attract a lot more teachers if people say

977
05:30:28,990 --> 05:30:30,970
about their enthusiasm

978
05:30:30,970 --> 05:30:34,790
about coming to work for us, for our children, for our neighborhoods.

979
05:30:40,100 --> 05:30:42,000
It all depends on what we want

980
05:30:42,000 --> 05:30:43,560
from that mayor going forward.

981
05:30:44,100 --> 05:30:44,440
Thank you.

982
05:30:45,000 --> 05:30:47,920
Really, really great answers to that question

983
05:30:47,920 --> 05:30:49,400
and wide-ranging answers.

984
05:30:49,740 --> 05:30:51,540
One thing I was surprised that I didn't hear anyone

985
05:30:51,540 --> 05:30:53,980
really talk about growing teachers from women.

986
05:30:54,860 --> 05:30:58,260
There are lots of young people who could go into teaching

987
05:30:58,260 --> 05:31:01,420
who are from the city, and certainly that should be you

988
05:31:07,530 --> 05:31:08,730
because you've seen a

989
05:31:13,910 --> 05:31:14,290
moment.

990
05:31:15,370 --> 05:31:17,410
You know, certainly Hartford, like many big city

991
05:31:18,010 --> 05:31:20,210
you know, gun violence as a problem.

992
05:31:20,210 --> 05:31:26,690
You know, within the city connected to poverty and many other sort of challenges and so

993
05:31:26,690 --> 05:31:34,030
You know, there are many programs that attempt to do something about gun violence and so my question here is

994
05:31:35,010 --> 05:31:39,090
What would you do differently if you were mayor

995
05:31:39,770 --> 05:31:41,950
When it comes to dealing with the problem of

996
05:31:50,780 --> 05:31:54,360
unviolence is a symptom of our poverty

997
05:31:55,240 --> 05:32:01,120
If you look at a map in Hartford, in our poor tracks, again, of which we're in one now,

998
05:32:03,550 --> 05:32:07,750
it's incredibly the correlation between the attacks and gun violence.

999
05:32:08,330 --> 05:32:09,250
This is not a mystery.

1000
05:32:10,830 --> 05:32:16,510
We always seem to find the resources when the plane crashes, but not before.

1001
05:32:19,440 --> 05:32:22,680
I had a conversation with the chief of police about a year and a half ago.

1002
05:32:32,630 --> 05:32:34,810
You know, their names, we know they where they live.

1003
05:32:34,810 --> 05:32:41,360
I said chief, there's a 10-year-old and Hartford's going to be on about the 10-year-old.

1004
05:32:43,040 --> 05:32:50,900
This session, as a legislator, I got $1.00 and over the next each year of the biennium

1005
05:32:51,540 --> 05:33:00,360
for Hartford Communities of Care and the athletic league, two organizations that are involved

1006
05:33:00,360 --> 05:33:07,460
the different ways to focus on 8 to 12-year-olds, which is an age group where you go from being

1007
05:33:07,460 --> 05:33:15,640
a child to more engaged in things that are helpful in their lives, but we don't do much about that

1008
05:33:15,640 --> 05:33:23,880
group of 8 to 12-year-olds in this city, and that money is given to them to the group. But more

1009
05:33:23,880 --> 05:33:31,720
Or immediately, Boston has a probation nightlight where they have sent two police officers,

1010
05:33:32,340 --> 05:33:41,160
a probation officer or a parole officer who arrest, not to harass, but to check in with

1011
05:33:41,160 --> 05:33:45,600
someone who's been involved in gun violence or at home.

1012
05:33:46,400 --> 05:33:51,440
And I think most of us know if someone's checking in with us on a regular basis, we pay attention

1013
05:33:51,440 --> 05:33:58,080
to that in a person's head success in Boston. There's a person who works at the

1014
05:33:58,080 --> 05:34:03,440
Capitol, he is the clerk of the Senate, and some of you may know him. He writes

1015
05:34:03,440 --> 05:34:11,320
regularly on issues involving the Black community. In this piece, he most

1016
05:34:11,320 --> 05:34:20,480
recently wrote about re-engaging fathers, re-engaging the lives of so many

1017
05:34:20,480 --> 05:34:23,180
heart for kids who don't have their fathers in their lives.

1018
05:34:23,940 --> 05:34:33,080
And we don't work at, and I think America can take on as a, and I will, as a priority

1019
05:34:33,800 --> 05:34:42,980
of spring fathers who, for one of many reasons, have disengaged in their own peace

1020
05:34:45,600 --> 05:34:45,820
of mind.

1021
05:34:46,200 --> 05:34:49,620
And we'll get through more questions if we're kind of concise, so, you know, think about

1022
05:34:52,220 --> 05:34:53,520
That's all right.

1023
05:34:54,540 --> 05:34:55,380
The great answers.

1024
05:34:57,100 --> 05:35:04,540
So to believe that what we tried in,

1025
05:35:04,880 --> 05:35:08,940
I think it was around 19 or very simplistic,

1026
05:35:10,080 --> 05:35:15,280
there were a bunch of community leaders including Larry Tractor

1027
05:35:15,280 --> 05:35:19,240
at the time of the one-chain organization Reverend Michael Williams,

1028
05:35:22,660 --> 05:35:34,000
that time, myself, we held a press conference on New Year's Day in the Latin Legion, and

1029
05:35:34,000 --> 05:35:40,800
we simply made an appeal to young people and others to adopt the claims.

1030
05:35:41,440 --> 05:35:46,520
And miraculously enough, for a period of time, that appeal seemed to have an effect.

1031
05:35:46,520 --> 05:35:53,760
and there was a remarkable decline in those types of incidents.

1032
05:35:55,080 --> 05:36:02,280
Very simplistic and as I said, I'm not so naive as to believe that that kind of an approach

1033
05:36:02,280 --> 05:36:06,460
on lasting and effective approach.

1034
05:36:07,160 --> 05:36:11,000
We certainly didn't get to the point where young people and other

1035
05:36:11,000 --> 05:36:20,200
And another in the broad daylight industry, it's probably in the long term.