1 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:39,269 This conference will now be recorded. 2 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,279 Well, good morning. Uh, thank you for 3 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:45,360 your patience. Uh, I call to order this 4 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,720 uh workshops a special city council 5 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,680 meeting on this August 8th, 2026 at 9:01 6 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:58,079 a.m. and a 7 00:11:58,079 --> 00:12:00,320 super majority 8 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,110 of the council is present 9 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,279 with that. Uh, if we could go to uh 10 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:11,839 invitation and pledge. Thank you 11 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:14,560 almighty father for your many gifts and 12 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:17,040 your wisdom and your guidance. We pray 13 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,600 that you are with us always in Jesus 14 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:25,030 name. Amen. 15 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,000 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 16 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,639 United States of America and to the 17 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,920 republic for which it stands, one nation 18 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,279 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 19 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,760 justice for all. 20 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,079 Honor the Texas flag. I pledge 21 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:45,279 allegiance to thee, Texas, one state 22 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:58,710 under God, one and indivisible. 23 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,040 one. Uh any speakers? 24 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,069 >> No, sir. 25 00:13:02,069 --> 00:13:02,079 » No, sir. 26 00:13:02,079 --> 00:13:06,389 >> Is there anybody online? 27 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:08,079 » All right. 28 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:11,920 Very good. Let's go to the item four. Uh 29 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:17,120 the fiscal year 2026 2027 proposed 30 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,360 budget. The 31 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,360 item 4 A we will pick up from where we 32 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,720 left off. That'll be a short conclusion 33 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,440 there and then go into uh the remainder 34 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,800 of the items. 35 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,079 One is uh debt service fund and two is 36 00:13:38,079 --> 00:13:41,839 special revenue funds and 37 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:46,079 um Miss Lamb will do that presentation. 38 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:51,269 >> It's page 191, guys. 39 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:54,160 » Good morning, mayor and council. Um if 40 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,720 you look at page 93 41 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,320 um this is the debt service fund for um 42 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:06,000 that's supported by property tax and um 43 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,760 if you'll look at that the um 44 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,639 revenues are based on um the no new 45 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:14,160 revenue rate. Should you raise a 46 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,720 different tax rate that um would change 47 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 um for on the advorum taxes line for the 48 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,079 revenues 49 00:14:24,079 --> 00:14:26,240 um the 50 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,160 under the debt service requirements all 51 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,880 the different bond issues or 52 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,800 certificates of obligation that are um 53 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,880 funded by the property tax are listed 54 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,160 there with their principal interest and 55 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,120 fee requirements um for the next coming 56 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,240 year. This is the debt service that is 57 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,519 submitted to the county when they do our 58 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:51,600 um calculations for our debt service 59 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,279 rate 60 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:56,320 uh that you'll be talking about later uh 61 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,760 in the meeting. On the following pages, 62 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,720 uh there's just a summary of 63 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,199 um all of them put together to show you 64 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:09,199 the impact um of them all together. And 65 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:13,760 then starting on page 196, you have the 66 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,160 different issues listed out uh to their 67 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,320 maturity. One thing I wanted to point 68 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,920 out on the headings of those on p like 69 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,600 page 196, this is tax supported portion. 70 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,399 60% on that uh general obligation 71 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:32,480 refunding bond. The other 40% is funded 72 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,760 by water and sewer. Um, and you'll see 73 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,120 that as we move on to um the debt 74 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,880 service for the water and sewer funds. 75 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,320 On page 2011 is our other debt service 76 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,105 fund and this is the uh fund 77 00:15:49,105 --> 00:15:51,040 [clears throat] that the water and sewer 78 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,480 debt is funded. This fund actually on 79 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,199 your audited financial statements will 80 00:15:57,199 --> 00:15:59,920 combine with fund two which is your 81 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,600 water and sewer fund. uh because these 82 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,920 um issues are not funded by the property 83 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,000 tax. They are funded with water and 84 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,880 sewer revenues. So you have uh in on the 85 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,959 revenues you have a transfer from impact 86 00:16:14,959 --> 00:16:18,320 fees that is something that was set up 87 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,120 many years ago and I don't know the 88 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,199 history behind all of that but the 89 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:26,000 impact fees for water and sewer uh 90 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,160 support one of the debt issues and they 91 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,079 transfer in 150,000 towards that. this 92 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:35,040 transfer from water and sewer. Um we 93 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,880 just show the portion that's actually 94 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,120 being funded this year out of fund O2. 95 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,639 Then one of the debt issues um type A 96 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:47,360 and type B participate in and so they're 97 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,720 they transfer in to pay this debt. They 98 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,199 each transfer in 35,000 99 00:16:53,199 --> 00:16:55,279 and then this fund earns interest 100 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:58,079 income. So that's where the funding for 101 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:00,560 these debt issues come from. all those 102 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,040 different sources. Then once again on 103 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,280 the requirements, it's listing out your 104 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,199 principal, interest, and your fee 105 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:10,319 requirements for the coming year. This 106 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:13,360 debt once again is not included in the 107 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:15,839 property tax. 108 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,079 On the next pages, you have the same you 109 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,480 have the summary that shows them all 110 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,720 together with their requirements and 111 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,039 then the individual um to maturity and 112 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:29,840 the percentage that they're funded. 113 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,720 And just point out that um on page 207, 114 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,679 this is the certificates of obligations 115 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:40,480 uh that we did in 2022. 116 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,799 The majority of this, this is what is 117 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:45,600 reflected with the pro the projects that 118 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,919 are in fund 29 119 00:17:47,919 --> 00:17:50,080 um the water and sewer piece of that 120 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,720 which is 71.91%. 121 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,080 So the heavy burden of this one is is on 122 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,679 the water and sewer fund. 123 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:01,200 Are there any questions on the debt 124 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,150 service? 125 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,240 I just have one and I'm just trying to 126 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,039 understand you said for page 193. So the 127 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:12,960 interest it's stating is interest earned 128 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,600 or interest charged to us 129 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,070 >> on the um top of the top of the page 130 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:18,080 » on the um top of the top of the page 131 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,320 under revenues there's interest earned 132 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,830 >> but in the debt service requirement 133 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:21,840 » but in the debt service requirement 134 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,590 >> but in the debt service the it's the 135 00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:23,600 » but in the debt service the it's the 136 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,960 interest payment. 137 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,470 >> Okay. 138 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:26,480 » Okay. 139 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Just trying to understand for the 2022 140 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,760 combo tax um why are we holding on to a 141 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,160 debt that's double for the interest 142 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,000 charge? So like I'm looking principal 143 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,320 for next year's 165 interest we're going 144 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,717 to pay is 189. 145 00:18:40,717 --> 00:18:42,480 [clears throat] 146 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,669 >> What page are you on? 147 00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:43,679 » What page are you on? 148 00:18:43,679 --> 00:18:44,710 >> 193 149 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:44,720 » 193 150 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,070 >> towards the bottom bottom line 151 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:48,080 » towards the bottom bottom line 152 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,270 >> under 2022 combo tax 153 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:51,280 » under 2022 combo tax 154 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,390 >> 199 155 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:52,400 » 199 156 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:52,950 >> 193 157 00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:52,960 » 193 158 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,590 >> 193 159 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:53,600 » 193 160 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,390 >> 193 sorry 161 00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:56,400 » 193 sorry 162 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,230 >> I mean the rest seem like reasonable 163 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:58,240 » I mean the rest seem like reasonable 164 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,679 interest charges if I'm reading it 165 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:01,120 correctly but that one is more than the 166 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:04,150 principal. 167 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:04,880 Yeah. And 168 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,390 >> we could wipe that out. 169 00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:06,400 » we could wipe that out. 170 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,190 >> Part of the reason for that is the way 171 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:09,200 » Part of the reason for that is the way 172 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,559 it was issued. It it was almost a year. 173 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:14,480 It was almost 18 months before we made 174 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,600 the first interest payment. So, it's 175 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,000 behind on the the amount that's 176 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,840 outstanding. 177 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,630 >> Would 178 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:22,640 » Would 179 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,390 >> and I can double check this number, but 180 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:24,400 » and I can double check this number, but 181 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,919 it should be correct. 182 00:19:25,919 --> 00:19:27,110 >> Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at the past 183 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:27,120 » Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at the past 184 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,520 years and they're always much higher 185 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,200 than the principal. I mean, with such a 186 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,960 small is it not in the city's best 187 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,120 interest or is it even an option to pay 188 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,720 this one off just because the interest 189 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,880 is so high or is that not 190 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,630 >> There are call provisions. I'd have to 191 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:40,640 » There are call provisions. I'd have to 192 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,919 look them up. Um, but yes, all of these 193 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:46,640 issues have call provisions in them. 194 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,390 >> Okay. I'm just looking at the interest 195 00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:48,400 » Okay. I'm just looking at the interest 196 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,760 compared to the principal and it just 197 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,600 seems like something we may want to talk 198 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,799 about and consider. 199 00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:57,669 >> Yeah. 200 00:19:57,679 --> 00:20:04,630 There any other question? 201 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,880 Uh if there's not we can go on to the 202 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,600 next item which is special revenue funds 203 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,440 and those start on page 209 204 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,440 211 205 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,679 actually start on page 213 with the 206 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:21,120 parkboard fund. Heartboard fund is the 207 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:24,209 fund that um they fund their activities 208 00:20:24,209 --> 00:20:24,799 [clears throat] 209 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:30,159 and events um out of. This fund is 210 00:20:30,159 --> 00:20:33,600 funded by uh contributions that show up 211 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,880 on the utility bill. The customers have 212 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,200 the option to make donations to this 213 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,080 fund. So those are shown in the park 214 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,480 fund contributions. 215 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Then the um down at the bottom you'll 216 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,960 see a matching transfer any we this 217 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,280 general fund matches any donations that 218 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,520 are made by the citizens. So that's 219 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,919 where that is shown. 220 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:01,280 And then the other large revenue source 221 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,919 for this is the transfer from the 222 00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:06,720 general fund. the general fund. U the 223 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,559 council has uh for many years had this 224 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,240 $62,400 225 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,799 amount that they subsidized this fund 226 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,480 with. 227 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,440 And then the other revenues are for the 228 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,600 particular events that the um park board 229 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080 holds and these are the sponsorships and 230 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,120 donations that um Katrina goes out when 231 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:30,960 she's working the events and secures 232 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,320 from the different sponsors. 233 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,200 One of the new items that they requested 234 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,440 in the current or in the next year's 235 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 budget is they want to reinstate their 236 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,520 rodeo uh project. So they have added 237 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,360 $40,000 238 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:49,760 at both the revenue and expenditure line 239 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,240 for the rodeo. 240 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,360 Um other than that there's 241 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,400 very little changes um from the prior 242 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,559 year. 243 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:03,919 The in addition to this Mr. Mayor, may 244 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:05,120 I? 245 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:06,630 >> Um, 246 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:06,640 » Um, 247 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,799 I just have a curiosity question. 248 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:11,190 >> They're saying they're going to have 249 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:11,200 » They're saying they're going to have 250 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,440 40,000 in income and 40,000 in expenses 251 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,799 for the rodeo. Where does the income 252 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:16,559 come from for the rodeo? 253 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:17,590 >> Sponsorships. 254 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:17,600 » Sponsorships. 255 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,710 >> So, they think they'll get that much 256 00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:18,720 » So, they think they'll get that much 257 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,679 from sponsorships. 258 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:21,430 >> That That's how we budget it. 259 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:21,440 » That That's how we budget it. 260 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:21,909 >> Okay. 261 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:21,919 » Okay. 262 00:22:21,919 --> 00:22:24,470 >> Sometimes they go over sponsorships and 263 00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:24,480 » Sometimes they go over sponsorships and 264 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,640 sometimes they don't make it. But 265 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,919 vendors as well. 266 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:29,190 >> Yeah. I'm just saying on the other 267 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:29,200 » Yeah. I'm just saying on the other 268 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,520 events, they don't really bring in that 269 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,600 much. So, I'm just want I'm just curious 270 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,679 why the rodeo has such a higher number 271 00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:36,960 for income. 272 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,710 >> Um because it has a high number for 273 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:38,720 » Um because it has a high number for 274 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,360 expenditures. They they do the same. 275 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,280 This is how they've always budgeted. 276 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,990 >> Okay. 277 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:44,000 » Okay. 278 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,310 >> Because that's Katrina's goal is to go 279 00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:46,320 » Because that's Katrina's goal is to go 280 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,640 out and try to raise $40,000. 281 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,029 >> Okay. 282 00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:49,039 » Okay. 283 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:53,270 >> Or, you know, for um the fireworks, you 284 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:53,280 » Or, you know, for um the fireworks, you 285 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,720 know, she raises, you know, more money. 286 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,200 As you can see, 287 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,000 it's not always feasible to to raise 288 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,640 them, but 289 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,510 >> Right. 290 00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:03,520 » Right. 291 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,070 >> Yeah. 292 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:04,080 » Yeah. 293 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,549 >> Okay. 294 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:04,559 » Okay. 295 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:08,390 >> We have no idea how to determine who 296 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:08,400 » We have no idea how to determine who 297 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,320 will sponsor, who will not, 298 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:10,630 >> right? 299 00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:10,640 » right? 300 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,630 >> So that's why it's reflected this way. 301 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:12,640 » So that's why it's reflected this way. 302 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,310 >> Okay. And with the rodeo, I would also 303 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:14,320 » Okay. And with the rodeo, I would also 304 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,640 say that there's a third party that runs 305 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,480 it and he also goes out and gets 306 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,320 sponsorships and sometimes Katrina and 307 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,360 him have or the city and him have worked 308 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,080 a um agreement where some of the 309 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,799 sponsorship goes to us as well. So it it 310 00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:30,320 will raise more money. 311 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,669 >> Okay. Thank you'all. in the past. 312 00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:33,679 » Okay. Thank you'all. in the past. 313 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:37,110 >> In addition, the park um park board did 314 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:37,120 » In addition, the park um park board did 315 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:41,919 request that the city add 300,000 to the 316 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:45,760 playground project which um you all 317 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,159 added in the general fund at your last 318 00:23:48,159 --> 00:23:50,559 workshop. 319 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:51,990 >> Mayor, 320 00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:52,000 » Mayor, 321 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,549 >> yeah. 322 00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:52,559 » yeah. 323 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:55,430 >> Um so, question. Why do we continue to 324 00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:55,440 » Um so, question. Why do we continue to 325 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,240 put the 62,400 in there if they've got a 326 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,080 pretty healthy 327 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,400 budget? It looks like they're they're 328 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,240 able to cover their own costs and 329 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,559 they're actually increasing on their 330 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,960 ending available resources. Is that 331 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,600 something we need to consider changing? 332 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,510 >> It's been the custom of the council to 333 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:13,520 » It's been the custom of the council to 334 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000 do that every year for many years. If 335 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,840 this council would like to change that, 336 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,000 then uh that could be part of your 337 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,480 change. 338 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,390 >> And I don't mind the the park board 339 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:22,400 » And I don't mind the the park board 340 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,919 having money. It just looks like they 341 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:25,360 don't need it. So the question is why 342 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:30,390 are we putting it there? 343 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,320 I believe the previous amount was 344 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,159 $57,000 345 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:39,190 and at one point we raised it to 624. 346 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,799 » Is there a budget you think is healthy 347 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:42,320 for them to have at ending available 348 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,870 resources? 349 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,679 » I yeah I don't I don't know that I have 350 00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:52,720 a a real opinion on that. there are um 351 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,600 there hasn't been a a situation that I 352 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,159 can think of where they were in danger 353 00:24:58,159 --> 00:25:00,799 of running short or um 354 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,070 >> definitely not a quarter of a million 355 00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:02,080 » definitely not a quarter of a million 356 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:02,799 dollars. 357 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:03,430 >> No. 358 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:03,440 » No. 359 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,750 >> Okay. So, I mean that's just something 360 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:05,760 » Okay. So, I mean that's just something 361 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,799 for us to 362 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,390 >> Yeah. Or or definitely thinking about 363 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:08,400 » Yeah. Or or definitely thinking about 364 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,000 maybe reducing that number to 365 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,430 >> or maybe just removing it just for this 366 00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:11,440 » or maybe just removing it just for this 367 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:11,919 year. I mean 368 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:13,269 >> I would remove it completely. The first 369 00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:13,279 » I would remove it completely. The first 370 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:14,377 thing I would do is maybe 371 00:25:14,377 --> 00:25:15,600 [clears throat] reduce and then if it's 372 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,080 still not used then remove. Okay. But 373 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,990 >> I think the reason reason she might be, 374 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:20,000 » I think the reason reason she might be, 375 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,360 not to put words in your mouth, but 376 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,840 because they have $260,000 377 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,080 available at the end of the year. 378 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,750 >> So if you if you took it out completely, 379 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:27,760 » So if you if you took it out completely, 380 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,520 they'd still have $200,000 left over. 381 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,120 I think is maybe is that 382 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,310 >> that is what I was saying. I was just 383 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:34,320 » that is what I was saying. I was just 384 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,919 saying that's what Oh, sorry. I'm not 385 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:37,200 sure why it's doing that. 386 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,269 >> Um [clears throat] even if we only 387 00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:39,279 » Um [clears throat] even if we only 388 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:40,960 removed it for the year, they would 389 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,120 still have a very healthy budget was all 390 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,520 I was saying. But I even just reducing I 391 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,440 just don't 392 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,679 from what they've spent and from their 393 00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:51,120 history, it just doesn't look like they 394 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,120 need a quarter of a million dollar, 395 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,029 >> right? 396 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:55,039 » right? 397 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,430 >> Maybe reduce it by half. Like just 398 00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:57,440 » Maybe reduce it by half. Like just 399 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,000 because if I do agree, I think it was 57 400 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,520 before and I'm I don't know the history 401 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,200 of why that has always been the case, 402 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,720 but 403 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,350 >> I might make the suggestion. Uh I hear 404 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:07,360 » I might make the suggestion. Uh I hear 405 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,360 what you're saying. 406 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,440 uh this transfer 407 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,520 from general fund being 62,400 408 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,039 and 409 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:21,600 with the total revenue at 161450 410 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,640 and total expenditures estimated at 411 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,640 151250 412 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,120 for this budget to balance out and 413 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:33,279 reduce that uh it would be lower that 414 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:35,039 62400 415 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,440 to maybe 52400 416 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,520 decrease it by 10,000 And that's the 417 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,600 diff that's approximate number. I had to 418 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840 get my calculator, but that's the 419 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,559 approximate difference between 420 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,600 uh this year's uh proposed revenue 421 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,799 versus expenditures. 422 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,120 And the uh your this quarter of a 423 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:56,640 million, you're looking at the total 424 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,279 ending resources. Those are carry over 425 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,400 from year to year to year that uh it's a 426 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,279 a reserve that uh they have in this park 427 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:06,400 board fund 428 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,789 >> just as we do in our general fund. 429 00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:08,799 » just as we do in our general fund. 430 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:10,310 >> Understood. And it's just talking about 431 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:10,320 » Understood. And it's just talking about 432 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,840 do they really need a quarter of a 433 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,200 million dollars of reserves or even 434 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,760 200,000. I mean I'm just saying we 435 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,320 should talk about it if if we feel 436 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,029 >> time talk about 437 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:19,039 » time talk about 438 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,310 >> Yeah. Now that I see kind of what you 439 00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:20,320 » Yeah. Now that I see kind of what you 440 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,679 said with the total revenue and the 441 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:24,640 total expenditures, you wouldn't want to 442 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,390 >> go less on the revenue than what they're 443 00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:26,400 » go less on the revenue than what they're 444 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,840 going to expend. Even though there is 445 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600 that reserve, 446 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,159 I think it would be good practice to 447 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:34,960 keep it balanced. 448 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,470 >> Well, let's see what that difference 449 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:36,480 » Well, let's see what that difference 450 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,159 actual difference would be. So 161 451 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:41,990 >> 10,200. 452 00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:42,000 » 10,200. 453 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,710 >> How much? 454 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:42,720 » How much? 455 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,990 >> 10,200. 456 00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:44,000 » 10,200. 457 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,149 >> $10,200. 458 00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:46,159 » $10,200. 459 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:49,440 So if you decrease that uh revenue the 460 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,039 match 461 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,760 uh how much does that take that to that 462 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,350 52,212 463 00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,520 » 522 464 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,029 >> that's a good start for sure and then we 465 00:28:01,029 --> 00:28:01,039 » that's a good start for sure and then we 466 00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:03,679 can look at it maybe doing more next 467 00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:04,399 year. 468 00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:06,230 >> Well also you don't want to cut too far 469 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:06,240 » Well also you don't want to cut too far 470 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,520 this year but since they're adding 471 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,840 another new big event you want to see 472 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,600 how that kind of plays out maybe. So I 473 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,480 think a little decrease is fine. I just 474 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,760 think something definitely we keep an 475 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,120 eye on as we go next year. 476 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,870 >> Marcy, 477 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:20,880 » Marcy, 478 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,559 uh [clears throat] 479 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,760 uh when we get new houses in that know 480 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,799 we were talking about last week with 481 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,720 that sweet grass that $1,000 that every 482 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,360 house gets built goes into the goes 483 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,320 towards the fund 15. Is that is that one 484 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,840 of these line items? Because once all 485 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,360 the houses are being built then they 486 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,600 won't be getting all that extra money 487 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,760 from all these new houses. So the parks 488 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,799 board their budget if I'm correcting 489 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,320 right should be going I mean they 490 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,279 wouldn't be getting a lot of money and 491 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:48,799 so they won't be having all this extra 492 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,640 money in there. Correct. 493 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,630 >> This this fun 494 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:52,640 » This this fun 495 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,630 >> this fund is separate from fund 15. Oh 496 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:54,640 » this fund is separate from fund 15. Oh 497 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,919 okay. So 498 00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:59,990 >> yeah. Um and prior to our boon and 499 00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:00,000 » yeah. Um and prior to our boon and 500 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,320 building fund 15 was very small. So 501 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,240 you're correct. It's it's going to go 502 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,640 back down. 503 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,830 >> So this is so this is 504 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:07,840 » So this is so this is 505 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,830 >> it's not going to affect this fun. 506 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:09,840 » it's not going to affect this fun. 507 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,950 >> Oh okay. Okay. 508 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:10,960 » Oh okay. Okay. 509 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,430 >> This park fund contribution is from the 510 00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:13,440 » This park fund contribution is from the 511 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,120 water bill like where they can opt. Is 512 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,760 that where 513 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,389 >> they get water bill and then the general 514 00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:18,399 » they get water bill and then the general 515 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:19,760 fund matches that? 516 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,230 >> Okay. 517 00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:20,240 » Okay. 518 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,630 >> And then they have the 624. 519 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:22,640 » And then they have the 624. 520 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,710 >> Okay. So in that park fund contribution 521 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:24,720 » Okay. So in that park fund contribution 522 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,159 we're matching. 523 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,630 >> Yes. If you see park fund contributions 524 00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:28,640 » Yes. If you see park fund contributions 525 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,480 of 15 and then down at towards the end 526 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,510 >> uh matching transfer general fund. Okay. 527 00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:35,520 » uh matching transfer general fund. Okay. 528 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,440 Is 15. 529 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,870 >> Okay. 530 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,559 So, did you get that we were going to 531 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,120 reduce the transfer from general fund to 532 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,640 52,200? 533 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,799 Yes. Moving forward. Okay. 534 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,190 >> And I just want to note just for anyone 535 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:53,200 » And I just want to note just for anyone 536 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,799 watching, that's not us trying to slash 537 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,440 park uh board funding. That's just 538 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,520 looking at the accounts. Um if the park 539 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,159 board needs more money, we are we're not 540 00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:04,559 saying no. We're just adjusting to their 541 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:07,520 current almost quarter million available 542 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:14,149 resources. 543 00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:18,710 Are there any other questions on 544 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,320 Okay. 545 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:26,070 Uh the next one is impact fees 546 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,669 and that's on page 223. 547 00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:34,320 Um once again this is this is going to 548 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,960 be driven by um the development that we 549 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,279 have going on. So the revenues for this 550 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:42,720 fund are the water and sewer impact fees 551 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,679 and then interest income. Uh interest 552 00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:49,360 income obviously would um go down as 553 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:55,840 these um this balance goes down. Um and 554 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,840 Mike can probably tell us more about 555 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,600 what impact fees can be used for. But um 556 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,600 in looking at next year's budget um what 557 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,760 we've what we've seen here is a transfer 558 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,279 as I mentioned before on the debt 559 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,559 service that the impact fees transfer to 560 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,320 the debt service fund. So that's that 561 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,240 $150,000 562 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,000 transfer that you see. And then what we 563 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480 have budgeted in here for project 564 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,159 expenditures 565 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:26,480 in the current year 566 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640 that 965,000 567 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,880 for FM156 Blue Mountain Road 16in water 568 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,640 line lowering that is a current uh 569 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,279 project and so if it's not completed or 570 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,679 not began in this year it'll carry 571 00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:47,200 forward. the water system master plan, 572 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,960 $5,000 is budgeted for next year. And 573 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,039 then in the sewer 574 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,480 uh section, the impact program update 575 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,279 for 20,000 and the sewer system master 576 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,840 plan for 425 577 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,360 and those were um on the recommendation 578 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,480 of Mr. Anderson. 579 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200 the impact fees. Uh if you'll look at 580 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,630 that graph on the screen, 581 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,840 this is the historicals 582 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,240 u buildout 583 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,559 since uh 20 or 17 fiscal year 1718 584 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:30,159 starting on the very far left and up to 585 00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:32,799 this last fiscal year or this fiscal 586 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:36,240 year 2526. 587 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,120 this uh 588 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,480 year we expect a build out of 589 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,360 approximately 82 homes. 590 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,679 That's why you see and that correlates 591 00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:50,399 these impact fees correlate directly 592 00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:53,360 with that construction. Now what's not 593 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,549 reflected in here is 594 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:02,799 uh commercial. We we the 595 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:05,519 residential permits or the residential 596 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:09,600 construction is uh very well predicted. 597 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,919 The developers have that down to a 598 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:13,519 science 599 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,240 and the these numbers is where we get 600 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,279 that from. and also we track the permits 601 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:23,279 uh compared to what they forecasted. 602 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,159 What we don't have in here uh in the 603 00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:30,399 impact fee revenue here is any large 604 00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:32,880 warehouse any commercial endeavor that 605 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,840 may come that is uh not predictable. So 606 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,399 it would be to a benefit if a commercial 607 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:42,880 a large warehouse comes in they pay 608 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,120 their impact fees 609 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,279 that will give more revenue than what 610 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:48,559 we're estimating. 611 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,070 >> It would not be beneficial if a large 612 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:50,080 » It would not be beneficial if a large 613 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,200 warehouse comes in. 614 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,830 >> Sorry. 615 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:51,840 » Sorry. 616 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,269 >> It would not be beneficial if a large 617 00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:53,279 » It would not be beneficial if a large 618 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:56,320 warehouse comes in. 619 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,360 We [clears throat] have said over and 620 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,039 over and over and the citizens have said 621 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:00,399 it as well. We do not want any more 622 00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:01,519 warehouses. 623 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,950 >> The master land use plan which I know is 624 00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:04,960 » The master land use plan which I know is 625 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,760 going into review. A bulk of that, you 626 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,320 know, probably 627 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,760 25% of the city on the north side 628 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,679 is zoned or is industrial. 629 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,159 It is industrial. That is the market 630 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:27,919 demand for uh Hasslet, Texas. 631 00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:30,800 It's it would be nice, you know, but 632 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,599 there you and you need to the 633 00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,000 logistics industry, the warehousing 634 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,520 industry, 635 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,240 uh those commercial facilities, they're 636 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:45,200 they're not particularly evil. There is 637 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,480 an upside and yes, there's a downside 638 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,639 when you get a large warehouse. And I'll 639 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,560 just take a minute here. I'm not trying 640 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,359 to divert. 641 00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:54,389 >> Yeah, I'd like to get back on the 642 00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:54,399 » Yeah, I'd like to get back on the 643 00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:54,879 agenda. 644 00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:56,629 >> Yes. But when make when you make a 645 00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:56,639 » Yes. But when make when you make a 646 00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:00,000 comment in public that warehousing we 647 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,320 don't want anymore that we need to step 648 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,119 back and understand what that means to 649 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:08,400 the city is that 650 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,760 uh a large warehouse say a 500,000 foot 651 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,160 warehouse or even a million square foot 652 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,440 warehouse uh 653 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,680 that is one large facility. There are 654 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,680 proportionally if you had a million 655 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,240 square foot or residential 656 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:30,720 um home sites that uh I worked that 657 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,480 number up but I think that might be 658 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,880 maybe 150 homes. U is that 659 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,280 150 homes 660 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,839 those are 150 points of failure for 661 00:35:43,839 --> 00:35:46,400 water and sewer that public works has to 662 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,440 maintain. For a large warehouse, there 663 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,760 might be three connection points in the 664 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,760 entire facility versus 150. So the 665 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,359 upside is there a relatively smaller 666 00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:02,560 line serving that large million square 667 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,480 foot facility 668 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,839 and less maintenance required 669 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:12,640 from the public works side of the world 670 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,839 to maintain that. Also with a large 671 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:18,240 warehouse depending on the operation 672 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,920 with all any of them is you get a what 673 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,240 is called personal property tax besides 674 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:29,680 the avalorum property tax. So the 675 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,200 personal property tax um such as uh well 676 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,960 a large ware million square foot 677 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,680 warehouse I think one of the recent ones 678 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,760 that have been uh that will be built 679 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,800 here is uh the personal property tax in 680 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,560 addition to that alarm but the personal 681 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,000 property tax yields the equivalent 682 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000 equivalent if you had to generate that 683 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,960 taxable sale from a retail facility that 684 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,119 retail facility would have to generate 685 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,720 over $77 million a year. 686 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,160 So there is an upside to warehousing. We 687 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,480 just need to recognize it. Yeah. But 688 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520 what come what's the downside? 689 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,839 We get a lot of cut uh cross through 690 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:16,960 traffic in the city of Hassa, Texas and 691 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,359 the large vehicles. 692 00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:20,880 That's the downside. 693 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,430 >> Okay. I had a question on um the Lata 694 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:23,440 » Okay. I had a question on um the Lata 695 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,960 water impact fee grant. So that's 696 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,480 completed and that will be removed next 697 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,160 year. I was looking back at last year's 698 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,040 budget with their buildout. So that's 699 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:38,230 that's done. 700 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:39,599 » Okay, perfect. 701 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,550 >> And then also on 702 00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:42,560 » And then also on 703 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,630 >> Okay, perfect. Um and then also on the 704 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:44,640 » Okay, perfect. Um and then also on the 705 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,400 water impact fees and the sewer impact 706 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,440 fees, that's it's a pretty significant 707 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,560 um reduction. Is that just something 708 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,400 that 709 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,800 can Can you explain the the from the 4 710 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,440 368 512 368 490 now to 96? 711 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,150 >> I'll let Oh, sorry. I'll let the mayor 712 00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:04,160 » I'll let Oh, sorry. I'll let the mayor 713 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,800 answer that. He's he's um looking at the 714 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,960 production schedule from the builders 715 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,320 and he may want to 716 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,470 >> that's just a prediction on what 717 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:12,480 » that's just a prediction on what 718 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,630 >> so your question again is that why is it 719 00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:16,640 » so your question again is that why is it 720 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,000 reduced from 490,000 to 96,000 721 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,790 >> and then below with the 450 to 186 722 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:22,800 » and then below with the 450 to 186 723 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,630 >> the for each residential lot there is a 724 00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:26,640 » the for each residential lot there is a 725 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,599 set impact fee 726 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:33,270 >> and it's I think is a nominal nominal 727 00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:33,280 » and it's I think is a nominal nominal 728 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,880 $2,000 for water, nominal 2,000 for 729 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,119 sewer. Well, actually there's more 730 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,200 difference than that. It's almost twice. 731 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,599 It [clears throat] is almost twice. Uh I 732 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,510 >> almost twice done or almost twice the 733 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:47,520 » almost twice done or almost twice the 734 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,920 amount. 735 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,510 >> The sewer impact fee is almost twice of 736 00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:51,520 » The sewer impact fee is almost twice of 737 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680 what the water impact is double. 738 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,150 >> Yes. 739 00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:54,160 » Yes. 740 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,829 >> Okay. Okay. Double. Okay. 741 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:55,839 » Okay. Okay. Double. Okay. 742 00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:57,990 >> So that's why you see that numerical 743 00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:58,000 » So that's why you see that numerical 744 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,680 difference between the two. But that is 745 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,720 based on I believe a standard with 3/4 746 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:11,990 inch line on water. And 747 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,680 so with that we just take those numbers. 748 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000 We take our projections which we get 749 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,880 from the developers 750 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,760 and multiply those number of expected 751 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,160 they call it takedown the number of 752 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,079 takedowns for the coming year. 753 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,320 and multiply it and how that's how that 754 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,760 number is generated. 755 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,550 >> Okay. Thank you, 756 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:36,560 » Okay. Thank you, 757 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,349 >> Mr. Mayor. 758 00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:37,359 » Mr. Mayor. 759 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:38,230 >> Yes. 760 00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:38,240 » Yes. 761 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,069 >> Um, is there any way we could I know 762 00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:40,079 » Um, is there any way we could I know 763 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:43,119 this is not the place, but these bring 764 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,880 up the issues. Is there any way we could 765 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,160 have a workshop at some point where we 766 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,599 look out five years? Because we've had 767 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,240 this bell curve of 768 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:55,839 of 769 00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:58,000 development and we know that the number 770 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,599 of houses being built every year is 771 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:01,440 going down, 772 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,400 for example. And so our budget is going 773 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,000 to look very different in 5 years than 774 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,440 it does right now. 775 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,430 >> And I think if we're not preparing now 776 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:09,440 » And I think if we're not preparing now 777 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,280 for then, it's going to be a really 778 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,359 harsh reality for when we get there. And 779 00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:15,200 I think it'd be very good for us as a 780 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,440 council um to create a soft landing 781 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,480 instead of a hard crash down the road. 782 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,400 Um so if there's any way we could put 783 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,920 together a workshop where we could 784 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,839 project out five years and and talk 785 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:29,599 about, you know, what are the 786 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:30,880 possibilities, what do we need to 787 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,640 prepare for, what might could we 788 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,000 accomplish in the next 5 years? I think 789 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,200 that'd be very beneficial for the city 790 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,760 of Hlet. 791 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,230 >> We can do that. We will do that. Uh just 792 00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:38,240 » We can do that. We will do that. Uh just 793 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:43,359 to answer your question, um 2627 794 00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:47,440 we uh expect approximately 80 something 795 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,520 homes to be built and the remainder 60 796 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,839 plus homes would be finished out in 2728 797 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:00,240 and then it's done. Single family 798 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:03,520 residential construction is done. new 799 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,880 construction. 800 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,190 >> But 801 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:05,200 » But 802 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,030 >> so 2728 at the end of that is when that 803 00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:09,040 » so 2728 at the end of that is when that 804 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,839 is expected to 805 00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:15,839 come. But the positive side of that is, 806 00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:21,280 you know, when a new home is built and 807 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,359 it gets occupied, it can take as much as 808 00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:29,599 two years before the city sees any 809 00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,720 property tax revenue. 810 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,960 Depends on when it goes on the books at 811 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,359 the appraisal district. 812 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:40,480 So it can take up to two years 813 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,280 but so uh for I'll say a nominal two 814 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,400 years after 2728 815 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,960 you'll see that additional property tax 816 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,240 revenue increase. 817 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,349 >> Is that including the land just north of 818 00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:57,359 » Is that including the land just north of 819 00:41:57,359 --> 00:41:58,960 Oldtown here that is also zoned 820 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,280 residential? 821 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,560 The number of houses you're saying are 822 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,760 left to be built. 823 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,430 >> No, I think it's only on those current 824 00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:05,440 » No, I think it's only on those current 825 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,880 subdivisions. the the current 826 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,599 subdivision. 827 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:08,950 >> Okay. Because I know that piece of land 828 00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:08,960 » Okay. Because I know that piece of land 829 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,720 is zoned residential as well. 830 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,589 >> That that does not include that because 831 00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:13,599 » That that does not include that because 832 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:18,960 no developer or anyone in fact uh uh has 833 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,119 inquired to do anything there. 834 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:21,430 >> Thank you. 835 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:21,440 » Thank you. 836 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,190 >> Are you talking about the land west of 837 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:23,200 » Are you talking about the land west of 838 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,319 BNSF? 839 00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:24,630 >> No, 840 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:24,640 » No, 841 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,829 >> just right here on this side of the 842 00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:25,839 » just right here on this side of the 843 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:27,280 tracks 844 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,349 >> just north of just north street 845 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:29,359 » just north of just north street 846 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:31,670 >> and take a right. That field is res is 847 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:31,680 » and take a right. That field is res is 848 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400 zoned residential. So to a few comments 849 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,480 to you and you as well, Chris, whe 850 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,480 whether he brings it or not, I I had 851 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,839 actually already spoke to Tanya about 852 00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:41,760 this part of the strategic plan. Most 853 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,560 cities have a five and a 10year budget. 854 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,560 So as we get into the strategic plan, 855 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,319 it's going to take them time to put 856 00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:50,319 together a five and 10ear financial 857 00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:52,560 plan. Um but that is something that I 858 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,240 intend to bring forward if we don't get 859 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,079 started on it anyways because the city 860 00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,000 needs it. There's no way we can plan for 861 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,599 this infrastructure accurately with just 862 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:03,280 this sheet. I mean, this is great, Mike. 863 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,200 I think you've done a fantastic job, but 864 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,640 we need to plug this in and kind of see 865 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,720 the projection of money and potential 866 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:12,560 tax rates when we need to go for a 867 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,560 significant tax increase or a bond. We 868 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,000 can't see that on this. Um, so 869 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,470 >> I would like to make a comment to that 870 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:20,480 » I would like to make a comment to that 871 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,200 as these capital projects and water and 872 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,880 sewer take into account all this 873 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,359 finished out residential. I I understand 874 00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:32,230 >> and the population and projected 875 00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:32,240 » and the population and projected 876 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,400 businesses that would come in many 877 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:34,720 years. 878 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,270 >> I understand. But for residents and for 879 00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:37,280 » I understand. But for residents and for 880 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,119 the council to fully understand what's 881 00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:40,720 going to happen over the next five and 882 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,040 again 10 years, we need to see a full 883 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,359 budget projection, which most cities 884 00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:47,119 have. I did want to ask a question 885 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:48,960 though, going back to today's agenda. 886 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,440 The water impact fee, you said it was 887 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,240 2,000 per house being developed. Well, 888 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,000 and then you said that we're going to 889 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,240 build 80 houses this year. Well, your 890 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,480 projection shows only 48 houses 891 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,480 approximately paying that water impact 892 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,040 fee. 893 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,069 >> No, I said nominal. I I can pull up the, 894 00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:06,079 » No, I said nominal. I I can pull up the, 895 00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,240 you know, all the calculations that I 896 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,400 did [clears throat] and I'll furnish 897 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,160 that to you. 898 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,470 >> I'm just I'm just asking. So, is it not 899 00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:14,480 » I'm just I'm just asking. So, is it not 900 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,000 $2,000? 901 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,150 >> I don't know the exact number. 902 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:18,160 » I don't know the exact number. 903 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,270 >> Okay. I just want to make sure 904 00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:19,280 » Okay. I just want to make sure 905 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,190 >> I don't recall the exact number. I do 906 00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:21,200 » I don't recall the exact number. I do 907 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,520 know what the number is and I I've used 908 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,400 it, but to recall the exact number 909 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,829 >> No, you're fine. didn't I'm just going 910 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:27,839 » No, you're fine. didn't I'm just going 911 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:28,640 off of what you said. 912 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,990 >> Nominal. Yes. 913 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:30,000 » Nominal. Yes. 914 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,069 >> Okay. 915 00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:32,079 » Okay. 916 00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:33,359 If we can just double check those 917 00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:34,720 numbers because if we're building 80 918 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,040 houses this year 919 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,560 um and we haven't received the water 920 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,240 impact fees yet, I'm just a little 921 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,480 surprised at that significant decrease. 922 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,680 I would expect a decrease but that that 923 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,560 large I would see I would expect more of 924 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,119 a step down. Well, I I'll send all of 925 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,560 you that uh the water and sewer impact 926 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,599 fees 927 00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:56,550 >> that have been applied. 928 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:56,560 » that have been applied. 929 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,829 >> Yeah, cuz Tanya Wait, question. 930 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:57,839 » Yeah, cuz Tanya Wait, question. 931 00:44:57,839 --> 00:44:59,510 >> I mean, sorry, not Tanya, Jasmine. 932 00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:59,520 » I mean, sorry, not Tanya, Jasmine. 933 00:44:59,520 --> 00:44:59,750 >> Yeah. 934 00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:59,760 » Yeah. 935 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,670 >> Yeah, cuz you're saying if 936 00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:01,680 » Yeah, cuz you're saying if 937 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,390 >> 162 down to 181, this number 490 should 938 00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:04,400 » 162 down to 181, this number 490 should 939 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,920 be half, not a quarter. 940 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,349 >> That that is actually what I was about 941 00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:07,359 » That that is actually what I was about 942 00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:10,720 to say. If we did 162 last year at 490, 943 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,560 we're almost expecting it to drop in 944 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,160 half. Like you said, we should be at 945 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,079 about 245. 946 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:16,240 We 947 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:17,750 >> We'll check those numbers and I'll send 948 00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:17,760 » We'll check those numbers and I'll send 949 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,119 them to you. 950 00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,839 Okay. And same with sewer impact. 951 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,990 >> Yes, both both impacts. 952 00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:24,000 » Yes, both both impacts. 953 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:39,829 >> Okay. 954 00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:44,309 » Any other questions? 955 00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:46,960 » Okay. The the next special revenue fund 956 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,880 is fund three um on page 229. This is 957 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,599 for type B 958 00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:56,960 and um they have made quite a few 959 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,720 changes in their budget. They um 960 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,920 had a workshop and worked on this I 961 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,359 think for a couple of meetings. Um 962 00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:10,319 starting off with the revenues 963 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:14,880 um their major revenue is um sales tax 964 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,440 and interest income. 965 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,160 Um on the transfers out as I mentioned 966 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,640 earlier they um transfer to fund a 967 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,920 portion of the debt there 35,000 968 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400 on the transfer to the general fund. 969 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,870 They if you'll look on page 970 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,910 um 971 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,190 255. 972 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,400 Um they 973 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,280 they've transferred historically 974 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,520 um an amount that's 212 well partially 975 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,160 21290 which was part for um just 976 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,640 covering expenses of the general fund. 977 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,119 So, um, 978 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:02,950 >> you say 255 979 00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:02,960 » you say 255 980 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,950 >> kind of like 233 25. 981 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:04,960 » kind of like 233 25. 982 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,710 >> Well, it's two Yeah. I'm not sure why 983 00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:06,720 » Well, it's two Yeah. I'm not sure why 984 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,240 there's two different numbers. I think 985 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,400 they must have put page numbers on what 986 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,040 they gave me. 987 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,230 >> I gota 988 00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:12,240 » I gota 989 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,870 >> um 990 00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:14,880 » um 991 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,240 but the count 03596100 992 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:19,839 0. 993 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:23,440 So the um 21290 994 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,359 historically has been the um 68.90 that 995 00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:29,280 they transfer in to fund some of the 996 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,079 general fund expenditures and then the 997 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:36,319 EDC coordinator third of that. So they 998 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:40,240 have added um reimbursing the city for a 999 00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:44,880 portion of the um metroport chamber dues 1000 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,839 and then they've also added um a third 1001 00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:50,079 of the economic development director. 1002 00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:55,680 They're um I believe proposing to have u 1003 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,440 rehire a director. So that's why that uh 1004 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,359 transfer amount has gone up. 1005 00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:03,990 >> May I ask a quick question, Mr. Mayor? 1006 00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:04,000 » May I ask a quick question, Mr. Mayor? 1007 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,720 Yes. Um, so since EDC has the 13,200 1008 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,480 right here for the Metropport Chamber 1009 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,440 fees, can we already mark that out on 1010 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,920 our general budget or No, 1011 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,990 >> we we have to have it budgeted as 1012 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:18,000 » we we have to have it budgeted as 1013 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,760 expenditure and then we'll budget it as 1014 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,440 a transfer. It'll it'll wash. 1015 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,069 >> It'll wash. 1016 00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:22,079 » It'll wash. 1017 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:22,390 >> Yeah. 1018 00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:22,400 » Yeah. 1019 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,510 >> Okay. Thank you. 1020 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:23,520 » Okay. Thank you. 1021 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,710 >> Yes. 1022 00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:24,720 » Yes. 1023 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,270 >> Who is I'm sorry, Mayor. 1024 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:27,280 » Who is I'm sorry, Mayor. 1025 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,150 >> Yes, ma'am. 1026 00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:28,160 » Yes, ma'am. 1027 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,990 >> Um, Marcy, who is their coordinator? 1028 00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:32,000 » Um, Marcy, who is their coordinator? 1029 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,470 >> That's Morris Swanky. Oh, okay. So, that 1030 00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:34,480 » That's Morris Swanky. Oh, okay. So, that 1031 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,119 that's that one. Is there a way we can 1032 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,880 add also a note there like we did on the 1033 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,040 other line saying that that's with that 1034 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,960 that agreement with that company? I just 1035 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,200 think it's more clear than saying 1036 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,510 >> we've hired someone in the city. And 1037 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:47,520 » we've hired someone in the city. And 1038 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,839 then for the economic development 1039 00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:52,640 director, is this one-third brought up 1040 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,240 to match what we 1041 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,750 >> that I have? No. uh because the number 1042 00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:59,760 » that I have? No. uh because the number 1043 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,119 that we budgeted we didn't we didn't 1044 00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:04,960 specify what was salary what was 1045 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,960 expenditures we just budgeted a total 1046 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,319 amount 1047 00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:10,790 >> I also would point out that type A has 1048 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:10,800 » I also would point out that type A has 1049 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,119 not made the same budget um 1050 00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:18,000 for a third so there'll be some things 1051 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,559 to work out if they decide to add that 1052 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:21,680 position 1053 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,549 >> okay so if yeah so if and I think we all 1054 00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:24,559 » okay so if yeah so if and I think we all 1055 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,319 said we wanting to so what do we need to 1056 00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:28,000 iron out to make sure that the funs are 1057 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,240 there to hire this position? 1058 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:30,950 >> Um, 1059 00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:30,960 » Um, 1060 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,470 >> we can't put it in their budget or 1061 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:32,480 » we can't put it in their budget or 1062 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,760 change their amount in their budget, can 1063 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,319 we? 1064 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:34,950 >> No, 1065 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:34,960 » No, 1066 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,990 >> we can only remove 1067 00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:36,000 » we can only remove 1068 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,750 >> B can change their budget. 1069 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:37,760 » B can change their budget. 1070 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,510 >> We can only remove if we don't agree. 1071 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:39,520 » We can only remove if we don't agree. 1072 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,430 >> They they can propose an amendment and 1073 00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:41,440 » They they can propose an amendment and 1074 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:41,920 then 1075 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,870 >> and you approve it. 1076 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:42,880 » and you approve it. 1077 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,829 >> And then you approve it. 1078 00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:43,839 » And then you approve it. 1079 00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:45,670 >> Just approve the amendment. 1080 00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:45,680 » Just approve the amendment. 1081 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,030 >> Okay. So, council, how do you guys want 1082 00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:47,040 » Okay. So, council, how do you guys want 1083 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,760 to approach that? 1084 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,510 >> And same thing with A. 1085 00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:49,520 » And same thing with A. 1086 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,069 >> You what? 1087 00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:50,079 » You what? 1088 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,390 >> Same thing with A as well. Do we think A 1089 00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:52,400 » Same thing with A as well. Do we think A 1090 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:52,800 is 1091 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,750 >> A would need I mean if if the assumption 1092 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:55,760 » A would need I mean if if the assumption 1093 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,920 is that A is going to pay a third they 1094 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,000 have not made the same budget. 1095 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,510 >> Yeah. Theirs is a lot lower. It's 1096 00:50:01,510 --> 00:50:01,520 » Yeah. Theirs is a lot lower. It's 1097 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,559 14,000. 1098 00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:03,270 >> Yeah. 1099 00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:03,280 » Yeah. 1100 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,109 >> The 14,000 is for Shrinky. 1101 00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:05,119 » The 14,000 is for Shrinky. 1102 00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:06,390 >> Yeah. The 14,000 1103 00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:06,400 » Yeah. The 14,000 1104 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,710 >> we have to do a 51,000 for the EDC 1105 00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:08,720 » we have to do a 51,000 for the EDC 1106 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:09,839 coordinator which is a different 1107 00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:10,240 position. 1108 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,150 >> Can you remind me what we put in on RN 1109 00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:12,160 » Can you remind me what we put in on RN 1110 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,119 core? 1111 00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:16,470 >> I think we put in um 1112 00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:16,480 » I think we put in um 1113 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,520 125,000. Hang on one second. 1114 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,910 >> 125,000 total. So we we do need to I 1115 00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:21,920 » 125,000 total. So we we do need to I 1116 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,839 think specify and break that apart, but 1117 00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:26,720 it looks like since we don't have type A 1118 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:29,040 agreeing, I almost think we we either 1119 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,920 need to plan to split with B or 1120 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,040 something because if not, we're not 1121 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,240 going to have this set up right to hire 1122 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:34,960 the position. 1123 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,390 >> Yeah, splitting would be a good idea to 1124 00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:36,400 » Yeah, splitting would be a good idea to 1125 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,640 start and then going to A and see if 1126 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,359 what they would be willing to 1127 00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:42,309 >> contribute. 1128 00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:42,319 » contribute. 1129 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:43,910 >> I think the hard thing with A is they 1130 00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:43,920 » I think the hard thing with A is they 1131 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160 meet very they don't meet very frequent. 1132 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,480 I mean like they're like every quarter 1133 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,720 and then you know us and 1134 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,030 >> uh type B meet every month and then when 1135 00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:53,040 » uh type B meet every month and then when 1136 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,880 they only meet every quarter I mean I 1137 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,079 don't know when's their next meeting is. 1138 00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:57,680 So it's kind of like you know I know 1139 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,880 they did probably did their budget a 1140 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,160 good while back because their meetings 1141 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,119 are so 1142 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:03,109 >> spread out. So that's something we need 1143 00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:03,119 » spread out. So that's something we need 1144 00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,520 to talk with them about or either split 1145 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,760 it 7575 with um or whatever the number 1146 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,200 is um with me. 1147 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,670 >> I'm going back I'm sorry. What page is 1148 00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:13,680 » I'm going back I'm sorry. What page is 1149 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,800 the What page did we put the economic 1150 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,440 development? Where was it? 1151 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,430 >> We created a new department. 1152 00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:21,440 » We created a new department. 1153 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,150 >> Oh, yes. I see. 1154 00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:22,160 » Oh, yes. I see. 1155 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,670 >> And so I've added it onto the general 1156 00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:25,680 » And so I've added it onto the general 1157 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,760 fund summary. You should have 1158 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,069 >> a summary on your 1159 00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:30,079 » a summary on your 1160 00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:31,430 >> Do you remember how much we said we 1161 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:31,440 » Do you remember how much we said we 1162 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,880 wanted to pay him versus his or per them 1163 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,440 versus their budget? I don't I just 1164 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680 remember we talked about a salary and 1165 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,839 some startup expenses, but I didn't have 1166 00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:42,880 in my notes. 1167 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,549 >> I think we we 1168 00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:44,559 » I think we we 1169 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,150 >> I didn't either. I'm looking at my 1170 00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:46,160 » I didn't either. I'm looking at my 1171 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,280 notes. Um 1172 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,470 >> and I don't either. 1173 00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:50,480 » and I don't either. 1174 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,270 >> I have 82 or 85,000 that was thinking it 1175 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:55,280 » I have 82 or 85,000 that was thinking it 1176 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,880 was being split though and 42,000 1177 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,359 for I don't know. We We need to fix this 1178 00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:02,720 real quick because this is going to end 1179 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,559 up causing a problem for us. 1180 00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:07,190 >> Excuse me. So you're 1181 00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:07,200 » Excuse me. So you're 1182 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,400 you're looking at type B right now. Yes. 1183 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,359 Your budget 1184 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:14,390 >> and versus how it speaks to ours what 1185 00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:14,400 » and versus how it speaks to ours what 1186 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,160 they have versus what we have in the 1187 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,240 fact that type A did not contribute. So 1188 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,760 this is a problem in the budget across 1189 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,880 three different places. 1190 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,309 >> The uh so it's typically it always has 1191 00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:24,319 » The uh so it's typically it always has 1192 00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:26,960 been a third of it from each. 1193 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,549 >> I understand but we don't have 1194 00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:28,559 » I understand but we don't have 1195 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,559 concurrence from A that they would do 1196 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:32,400 that. So that means we have to plan as 1197 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,640 if A is not going to agree otherwise we 1198 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,920 wouldn't have the funds to make this 1199 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,520 position possible this year. 1200 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,950 >> So uh on I think you mentioned earlier 1201 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:40,960 » So uh on I think you mentioned earlier 1202 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,319 to put in B's budget to make it explicit 1203 00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:48,079 this coordinator is 1204 00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:50,150 >> Bureitos. 1205 00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:50,160 » Bureitos. 1206 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,230 >> I would not do that. In fact you can't 1207 00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:52,240 » I would not do that. In fact you can't 1208 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,400 do that to their budget. They had to 1209 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,040 make that change. We can make it make a 1210 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,960 note and make a suggestion 1211 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,630 >> but if you put a company specific in 1212 00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:02,640 » but if you put a company specific in 1213 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,040 that budget line item. Guess what? You 1214 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,920 can only spend it. It is not set in 1215 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,920 stone that it's going to always be 1216 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,920 bureau veritos. 1217 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,390 >> Marcy, 1218 00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:12,400 » Marcy, 1219 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,670 >> so it is a CD uh an economic development 1220 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:15,680 » so it is a CD uh an economic development 1221 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,960 coordinator. 1222 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,990 >> Marcy, for the description, how can we 1223 00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:20,000 » Marcy, for the description, how can we 1224 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,240 clarify that better? 1225 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,589 >> Um well, so I have a question. If 1226 00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:25,599 » Um well, so I have a question. If 1227 00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:28,000 they're going to hire their own, they 1228 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,880 may not need this 144 1229 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,710 Are they hiring there? 1230 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:36,960 » It would be for the city, but again, it 1231 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200 would be the split. 1232 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,870 >> My understanding is that since 1233 00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:40,880 » My understanding is that since 1234 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,400 Veraritoss is more of a planning 1235 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,839 organization than a development 1236 00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:45,119 organization, 1237 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,589 >> the 144 is staying in there to keep the 1238 00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:47,599 » the 144 is staying in there to keep the 1239 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:48,800 planner part. 1240 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,109 >> Okay. 1241 00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:49,119 » Okay. 1242 00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,270 >> And they're hiring we're hiring a new 1243 00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:51,280 » And they're hiring we're hiring a new 1244 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,880 position for economic development 1245 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,319 coordinator that is only going to focus 1246 00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:55,520 on 1247 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,829 >> de like building the business community 1248 00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:57,839 » de like building the business community 1249 00:53:57,839 --> 00:54:01,599 in town. and it's going to be a a city 1250 00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:02,480 staff person. 1251 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:02,790 >> Okay. 1252 00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:02,800 » Okay. 1253 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,230 >> So, that's why there needed to be two 1254 00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:04,240 » So, that's why there needed to be two 1255 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:04,720 lines. 1256 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:06,309 >> It their line just needs to match our 1257 00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:06,319 » It their line just needs to match our 1258 00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:07,520 line because they're paying a third of 1259 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,440 it. So, whatever description we updated 1260 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,760 to, it should correlate to speak to the 1261 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,280 residents. That's not us directing them. 1262 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,387 I I can't remember what we decided 1263 00:54:15,387 --> 00:54:16,640 [clears throat] the terminology was at 1264 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,640 the last meeting, but we we said to 1265 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,720 update the description, and if they're 1266 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,240 matching that third, why would the 1267 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:25,119 description not be able to match? 1268 00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,920 Um, well, I think what he's saying is it 1269 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,559 can match to say EDC coordinator, but it 1270 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,079 wouldn't necessarily match. 1271 00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:33,910 >> Could we just state bureau verat 1272 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:33,920 » Could we just state bureau verat 1273 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,680 contract with city or it doesn't have to 1274 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,200 even say the company, but we need to 1275 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,359 specify a little bit more because this 1276 00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:40,880 looks like we could be hiring someone 1277 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,640 for this city 1278 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,510 >> in my opinion. 1279 00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:43,520 » in my opinion. 1280 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,270 >> I would have put the word contract, 1281 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:45,280 » I would have put the word contract, 1282 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,270 >> EDC coordinator, one-third contract, 1283 00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:47,280 » EDC coordinator, one-third contract, 1284 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,440 something like that. 1285 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,190 >> It just cleans it up. 1286 00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:51,200 » It just cleans it up. 1287 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,349 >> Okay. I know the may I know the mayor 1288 00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:53,359 » Okay. I know the may I know the mayor 1289 00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:55,520 said a while ago that typically it's 1290 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,040 always been it's third and a third and 1291 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,359 third between A and B and council or A 1292 00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:00,800 and B and the city. 1293 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,750 >> Um but I don't know does A know even 1294 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:03,760 » Um but I don't know does A know even 1295 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,760 know about this that we're wanting to do 1296 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,720 this or not? 1297 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,069 >> No. Oh well the third third has always 1298 00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:10,079 » No. Oh well the third third has always 1299 00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:10,880 been done that way. 1300 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,630 >> Well but does this does type A know 1301 00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:12,640 » Well but does this does type A know 1302 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,720 about this economic developer? Because 1303 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:15,920 if they did they would have probably put 1304 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,280 on their budget. So that makes me think 1305 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,520 they didn't know about it. 1306 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,800 I believe they passed their budget 1307 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:21,520 before this. 1308 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,030 >> Very well. So, 1309 00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:23,040 » Very well. So, 1310 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,750 >> but the other aspect in looking at this 1311 00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:25,760 » but the other aspect in looking at this 1312 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,599 is okay, we do a third, a third, a third 1313 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:33,359 and I observe that uh 1314 00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:39,510 uh type B consumes probably 1315 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,520 80% 1316 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,079 of that manpower 1317 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:47,680 and everybody else is. So to look at B a 1318 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,480 separate corporation 1319 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,680 to ask them to pay 1320 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,240 the same amount B should be paying a 1321 00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,640 higher percentage of that use. 1322 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,109 >> Okay. I I disagree because this is for 1323 00:56:01,109 --> 00:56:01,119 » Okay. I I disagree because this is for 1324 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:03,200 the benefit of the entire city and also 1325 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,400 we don't want it to where they're 1326 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,640 working for type B. They should be 1327 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,920 working for the whole city. My 1328 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,599 suggestion would be since we don't have 1329 00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:14,880 type A on board, take what uh type B did 1330 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,040 because that says 1/3, times it by two, 1331 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,240 we'll cover 2/3 salary and benefit under 1332 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,319 our line item for this year and then 1333 00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:24,160 give them a small budget to get them 1334 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,760 going while we get them hired and on 1335 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,119 board. That would be my suggestion. And 1336 00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:27,920 if next year 1337 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,950 >> Yeah, I agree. Which is 10334 1338 00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:30,960 » Yeah, I agree. Which is 10334 1339 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,559 is double. But then so that would go 1340 00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,400 into our general fund where it says 1341 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,400 economic development and change from the 1342 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,119 125. 1343 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:38,630 >> Yes. Yes. And then we do a separate line 1344 00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:38,640 » Yes. Yes. And then we do a separate line 1345 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,240 item for budget. What was that number? 1346 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:40,880 103 1347 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,950 >> 103 334. 1348 00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:42,960 » 103 334. 1349 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,190 >> 10334. 1350 00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:45,200 » 10334. 1351 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,510 >> Okay. What are you changing? What page? 1352 00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:47,520 » Okay. What are you changing? What page? 1353 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,190 >> Um, so it's I'll have to find the page 1354 00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:51,200 » Um, so it's I'll have to find the page 1355 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,319 again. So on the type B, we're not 1356 00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:56,240 changing anything besides updating EDC 1357 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,640 coordinator to say 1358 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,400 um contract. But if you go to page 32, 1359 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,880 well, no, we you created a whole new 1360 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,549 >> Yeah. So it would be the new general 1361 00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:06,559 » Yeah. So it would be the new general 1362 00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:06,960 budget. 1363 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,270 >> Yeah, it' be the new general. 1364 00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:09,280 » Yeah, it' be the new general. 1365 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,549 >> Would you do it below? It says economic 1366 00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:10,559 » Would you do it below? It says economic 1367 00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:11,599 development. Would you just add it to 1368 00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:13,839 the 125 or do you want it like called 1369 00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:15,280 out something different? 1370 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:15,990 >> We need to call 1371 00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:16,000 » We need to call 1372 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,230 >> if you want to break it out. Yeah. 1373 00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:18,240 » if you want to break it out. Yeah. 1374 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,040 Because if it's part of it's going to be 1375 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,839 salary and benefits and then 1376 00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:26,470 >> we'll put out their Medicare and all the 1377 00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:26,480 » we'll put out their Medicare and all the 1378 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,559 things. So I guess under the economic 1379 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,640 development and expenditures on the 1380 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,400 general fund, we'd add an additional 1381 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,510 >> we'd do line item 10334 for salary and 1382 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:37,520 » we'd do line item 10334 for salary and 1383 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,960 benefits and then we need to talk about 1384 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,480 a budget and that would 1385 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,150 >> I don't think we break it out anymore 1386 00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:42,160 » I don't think we break it out anymore 1387 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,599 because we need to wait till they get in 1388 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:44,880 here and tell us what they need. We 1389 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,839 don't want to 1390 00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:47,750 >> So do you not want to keep the 125 as 1391 00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:47,760 » So do you not want to keep the 125 as 1392 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,520 the budget already set? No, I would 1393 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,839 change it to the 103334 and then do a 1394 00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:53,760 separate line item of budget. 1395 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,069 >> Okay. 1396 00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:54,079 » Okay. 1397 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,230 >> Which the question is you're going to 1398 00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:56,240 » Which the question is you're going to 1399 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,680 about six months to make sure you find 1400 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,599 the right person 1401 00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:02,079 in the speed of city. So, how much of a 1402 00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,000 budget do you think they need for 6 1403 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,680 months as they're getting in here? I 1404 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,040 would say maybe 50,000. 1405 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,710 >> I say 50. I think 50 is fair. 1406 00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:08,720 » I say 50. I think 50 is fair. 1407 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,470 >> It's not 50. 1408 00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:10,480 » It's not 50. 1409 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,630 >> What page are you making this change on? 1410 00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:12,640 » What page are you making this change on? 1411 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,240 We're looking at the the general budget 1412 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,760 updated sheet that 1413 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,750 >> I can't call out by page because that we 1414 00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:17,760 » I can't call out by page because that we 1415 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,480 created a new 1416 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,349 >> Yeah, I believe it was an admin before. 1417 00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:23,359 » Yeah, I believe it was an admin before. 1418 00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:25,829 >> Yeah, it was it was on page 30. I was 1419 00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:25,839 » Yeah, it was it was on page 30. I was 1420 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:28,559 just on I'm sorry, 1421 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:32,470 >> but we It was on page 32 before 1422 00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:32,480 » but we It was on page 32 before 1423 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,270 >> 32. 1424 00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:33,280 » 32. 1425 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,829 >> It was, but she's creating a new 1426 00:58:35,829 --> 00:58:35,839 » It was, but she's creating a new 1427 00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:37,599 department or however you want to. 1428 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,030 >> Yeah. 1429 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:39,040 » Yeah. 1430 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,470 >> Jazz, where are you getting the 50,000? 1431 00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:40,480 » Jazz, where are you getting the 50,000? 1432 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,079 Because if we're given if that they're 1433 00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,160 budgeting 50 and then we're judging 100. 1434 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:44,480 So 1435 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,470 >> So if you if you look at their words, 1436 00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:46,480 » So if you if you look at their words, 1437 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,079 yeah, if you look at their words for it 1438 00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,000 says for salaries and benefits, they did 1439 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,480 not say anything about covering their 1440 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,480 expenses. So that's something we can 1441 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,160 also bring to type B. I think next year 1442 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,559 we get ahead of the budget and pre talk 1443 00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:00,319 to both of these boards about truly 1444 00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:02,160 covering because the expenses will be a 1445 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,400 lot more the following year as this 1446 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,000 person gets hired on and has a plan for 1447 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,480 the city. But I think 50,000 should be 1448 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,079 enough for them to get in here, learn 1449 00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:12,640 the city, do what they need to do, and 1450 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,720 if not, we can amend if there's an 1451 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,000 emergent need. 1452 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,109 >> Well, maybe we can start doing the 1453 00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:17,119 » Well, maybe we can start doing the 1454 00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,119 budget stuff like in June and start 1455 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:20,390 >> that's how it should be. 1456 00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:20,400 » that's how it should be. 1457 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,230 >> So, are you wanting me to show salary 1458 00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:22,240 » So, are you wanting me to show salary 1459 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,960 and benefits 51667? 1460 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,549 >> No, it should be double because we're 1461 00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:26,559 » No, it should be double because we're 1462 00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:28,240 going to cover 2/3 since we don't have 1463 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,559 type A um on board. 1464 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:33,190 >> So, that would be 103334. 1465 00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:33,200 » So, that would be 103334. 1466 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:33,920 Correct, Tanya? 1467 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,109 >> Correct. And then a $50,000 1468 00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:37,119 » Correct. And then a $50,000 1469 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,520 budget for 1470 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,309 >> expenses. 1471 00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:40,319 » expenses. 1472 00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:42,950 >> Expenses, not personal, for city 1473 00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:42,960 » Expenses, not personal, for city 1474 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,520 expenses. 1475 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,990 >> Okay. So that's about 25,000 over what 1476 00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:46,000 » Okay. So that's about 25,000 over what 1477 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,160 we already have. Okay. 1478 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,710 >> Okay. 1479 00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:50,720 » Okay. 1480 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,349 >> I think we had thought type A was going 1481 00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:53,359 » I think we had thought type A was going 1482 00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:56,000 to be in here, but since it's not kind 1483 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:03,990 of puts a pickle in it. 1484 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,960 Okay. Um, moving on from 1485 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,000 that line, I think the other biggest 1486 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,440 change to their budget 1487 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,960 um 1488 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,160 is them anticipating some special 1489 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,069 projects. 1490 01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:28,720 um they pretty much kept their um 1491 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,160 operations and maintenance and and um 1492 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,960 professional services about the same. 1493 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,319 But if you look on page 230, 1494 01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:43,510 they have put in 2,330,000 1495 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,440 for future projects. 1496 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,829 >> Yeah. Page 230. 1497 01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:55,750 spells it out. 1498 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,119 » Yeah. Yeah. 1499 01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:05,349 >> Page 261 breaks it out. 1500 01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:08,640 Mayor 1501 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,270 >> Yes, ma'am. 1502 01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:09,280 » Yes, ma'am. 1503 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,270 >> May I start conversation about this? 1504 01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:11,280 » May I start conversation about this? 1505 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,750 >> Pardon? 1506 01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:11,760 » Pardon? 1507 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,589 >> Can I start talking about this? 1508 01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:13,599 » Can I start talking about this? 1509 01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:14,390 >> Sure. 1510 01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:14,400 » Sure. 1511 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,829 >> Okay. So, I have a question for the 1512 01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:19,839 » Okay. So, I have a question for the 1513 01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:22,720 1 million. Oh, wait. Where did it go? It 1514 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,549 changed it. 1515 01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:27,200 So, 1516 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,349 >> oh, the 1 million east of 156 south of 1517 01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:29,359 » oh, the 1 million east of 156 south of 1518 01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:32,480 Hlet Parkways. 1519 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,240 I have no problem with a park on that 1520 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,640 side of town. That's where I live. I do 1521 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,079 have a problem with us putting a budget 1522 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,319 forth for something that we don't even 1523 01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:42,240 know where it's going to go. We don't 1524 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,520 even have a plan in mind and we're 1525 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,880 saying we're going to spend a million on 1526 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,720 it next year. Um, 1527 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,240 also I have questions about the process. 1528 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,359 If you guys don't have problems with 1529 01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:53,040 that, then I just have a questions about 1530 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,119 the process. I just think we're supposed 1531 01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:56,480 to be budgeting what we're going to 1532 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:01,280 spend. If we don't even have land, 1533 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,559 I definitely have questions. 1534 01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:04,870 >> What's the east of 156 south of Where is 1535 01:02:04,870 --> 01:02:04,880 » What's the east of 156 south of Where is 1536 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,319 that? You said you they're just calling 1537 01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:07,920 for a park somewhere on that side of 1538 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,319 town. 1539 01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:09,910 >> That's what they're saying. They want 1540 01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:09,920 » That's what they're saying. They want 1541 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,240 this is this is to appease Sweetg Grass 1542 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,599 and a little bit of Careway because they 1543 01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:15,920 were promised a park 1544 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,109 >> and a lot of the money that they 1545 01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:19,119 » and a lot of the money that they 1546 01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:20,720 um contributed when they built their 1547 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,839 house went to the park funds. And I I 1548 01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:26,720 think part of it they were promised by 1549 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,160 the developers a park on that side of 1550 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,920 the town. But I also think we need to 1551 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,319 clear up the verbiage here that the park 1552 01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:36,468 funds provided from those houses, it 1553 01:02:36,468 --> 01:02:37,520 [snorts] was for all of the city of 1554 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,200 Hasslet. It never anywhere stipulated 1555 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,799 that it had to go to Careway or Sweet 1556 01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:43,760 Grass. Um, which isn't really fair to 1557 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,960 all those that were lied to. I was one 1558 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,760 of the people that were lied to. Um, I 1559 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,480 would love a park over there. 1560 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,720 I just have a problem with a general 1561 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,480 statement. I guess 1562 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,109 >> I think 1563 01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:55,119 » I think 1564 01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,069 >> I would like to interject here. It is in 1565 01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:58,079 » I would like to interject here. It is in 1566 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:01,040 our ordinance that those park fund fees 1567 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,599 that each home site pays 1568 01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:05,270 >> goes to the general fund. 1569 01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:05,280 » goes to the general fund. 1570 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,950 >> Yeah. Yes. That's what that's what I'm 1571 01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:06,960 » Yeah. Yes. That's what that's what I'm 1572 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,280 saying. You said we need to clarify the 1573 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,960 language. The ordinance does clarify 1574 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:11,280 that. 1575 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,750 >> I know. But for people that don't know 1576 01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:13,760 » I know. But for people that don't know 1577 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,039 all the ordinances, they don't 1578 01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:16,640 understand. They think we paid for a 1579 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,400 park. We should be getting a park. And 1580 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,000 and I agree when 1581 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,710 >> the developer speaks a lot on our behalf 1582 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:22,720 » the developer speaks a lot on our behalf 1583 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,480 that we don't agree with. 1584 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,150 >> Yes. But I'm just saying since we're 1585 01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:26,160 » Yes. But I'm just saying since we're 1586 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,599 speaking on it right now, I think it's 1587 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,359 important that we clarify the city has 1588 01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:31,599 not done anything wrong by spending the 1589 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,799 money on the the main park in the city. 1590 01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:37,200 But you can understand residents 1591 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,880 frustration that they're the main 1592 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,319 contributors and it's hard for them to 1593 01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:44,160 access. That said, a general statement 1594 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,960 for a park where no land is identified. 1595 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,520 I I have concerns and questions. 1596 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,549 >> I would like to make this. Okay. Uh 1597 01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:52,559 » I would like to make this. Okay. Uh 1598 01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,599 you're discussing Ty's budget. 1599 01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:56,549 >> Okay. 1600 01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:56,559 » Okay. 1601 01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,549 >> Well, their future projects specifically 1602 01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:58,559 » Well, their future projects specifically 1603 01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,349 >> their future projects. Well, this is 1604 01:04:01,349 --> 01:04:01,359 » their future projects. Well, this is 1605 01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:02,880 their budget. They're a separate 1606 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,799 corporation. Yes. 1607 01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:07,190 >> And we're just in the enabling entity. 1608 01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:07,200 » And we're just in the enabling entity. 1609 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,880 That's what the city is. U now they have 1610 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,119 these funds in here. They can't spend 1611 01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:15,119 any of this money until they turn that 1612 01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:17,359 into a project, have a resolution, and 1613 01:04:17,359 --> 01:04:19,599 it goes before the city council for 1614 01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:21,119 approval. 1615 01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:23,670 >> These are just numbers. So that was that 1616 01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:23,680 » These are just numbers. So that was that 1617 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,119 was what I said at the beginning by 1618 01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,280 understanding the process because I 1619 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,280 understood that for the park that we're 1620 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,079 working on um right now where there was 1621 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:33,599 back and forth if they had the funds 1622 01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,359 available my understanding is that they 1623 01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:36,960 wouldn't have to come back to city 1624 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,200 council. Is that different? So that's 1625 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,799 that is a question I had. 1626 01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:42,630 >> Excuse me. Say the park 1627 01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:42,640 » Excuse me. Say the park 1628 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,510 >> the park that the park the playground 1629 01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:45,520 » the park that the park the playground 1630 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:46,710 >> yeah because my understanding is if 1631 01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:46,720 » yeah because my understanding is if 1632 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,160 they'd come in under budget they 1633 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,680 wouldn't have had to come back to 1634 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,119 council. So, how is that different with 1635 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:53,039 a new So, if we gave them a million 1636 01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:55,119 dollars and they went out and got a bid 1637 01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:58,000 and all that, do they have to come back 1638 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,520 before city council for approval? That 1639 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,319 was what I was 1640 01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:02,230 >> Yes. Correct. Yes. With the resolution 1641 01:05:02,230 --> 01:05:02,240 » Yes. Correct. Yes. With the resolution 1642 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,029 >> to spend the remainder of the money 1643 01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:05,039 » to spend the remainder of the money 1644 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,750 >> to So, say the park came in at 800,000. 1645 01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:07,760 » to So, say the park came in at 800,000. 1646 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,079 Yes. 1647 01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:09,510 >> Can they just go do it or do they have 1648 01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:09,520 » Can they just go do it or do they have 1649 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,920 to come back to city council? 1650 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,750 >> We would have had to approve that they 1651 01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:13,760 » We would have had to approve that they 1652 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,640 could spend up to a million prior 1653 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,839 today. They were just saying, "Okay, 1654 01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:19,599 we'll let them budget this amount." And 1655 01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:22,160 then once they find the project, fund 1656 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,640 it, then they'll come to us and say, 1657 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,349 >> um, we want to use 900,000 for this 1658 01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:27,359 » um, we want to use 900,000 for this 1659 01:05:27,359 --> 01:05:29,039 project resolution. What do you think? 1660 01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,480 And we'll say yes or no. 1661 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,150 >> So, they will have to come before us, 1662 01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:32,160 » So, they will have to come before us, 1663 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,359 correct, with the location and what 1664 01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:37,359 their resolution, all the details, 1665 01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:39,829 >> and adopt it, formally adopt it. They 1666 01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:39,839 » and adopt it, formally adopt it. They 1667 01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:42,559 adopt it formally as a project and 1668 01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,559 submit it to the city council for 1669 01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:46,559 approval. This is just Mayor May I be 1670 01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:47,119 recognized? 1671 01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:50,150 >> It be a project definition and the 1672 01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:50,160 » It be a project definition and the 1673 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:50,640 amount. 1674 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:50,950 >> Okay. 1675 01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:50,960 » Okay. 1676 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,789 >> Mayor, may I be recognized? 1677 01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:56,000 » May I be recognized? 1678 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:56,789 >> Say that again. 1679 01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:56,799 » Say that again. 1680 01:05:56,799 --> 01:05:58,950 >> May I be recognized, sir? 1681 01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:58,960 » May I be recognized, sir? 1682 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,950 >> Yes. Uh EDCB's intent this year, as has 1683 01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:02,960 » Yes. Uh EDCB's intent this year, as has 1684 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,200 been uh conveyed a couple of times, but 1685 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,520 EDCB's con intent this year is to by 1686 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,359 budgeting these listing these projects 1687 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:13,680 out in its budget uh in accordance with 1688 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,839 state law that if that is budgeted and 1689 01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:18,799 that uh these projects get approved that 1690 01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:20,400 that and the mayor is correct, there 1691 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,720 would be resolution, there would be uh 1692 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,799 public hearings, but that that would 1693 01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:27,119 basically start the 60-day process as 1694 01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,119 opposed to them going throughout 1695 01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:30,960 throughout the year with this project, 1696 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,960 that project. It is it does not mean 1697 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,119 that the listing right here is the 1698 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:37,119 extent of that project. Um there those 1699 01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:38,720 projects would still be spelled out, but 1700 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,960 the intent is that that would be 1701 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,799 happening basically on the front end of 1702 01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:44,480 their budget as opposed to through 1703 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,480 throughout the year project by project. 1704 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,470 >> This well I uh that's not correct. That 1705 01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:50,480 » This well I uh that's not correct. That 1706 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,720 60-day process starts after the 1707 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,039 resolution and the adoption of the 1708 01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:58,000 project. And the matter being he gives 1709 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,799 the public time to come back and 1710 01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:02,400 respond. 1711 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,630 >> Now this they can't spend any of this 1712 01:07:04,630 --> 01:07:04,640 » Now this they can't spend any of this 1713 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,680 money. This is not project approval. 1714 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,190 >> And I did not state that this was 1715 01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:09,200 » And I did not state that this was 1716 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,839 project approval, sir. But this process 1717 01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:13,680 has been laid out by their attorney as 1718 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,480 well. Um that they can through the 1719 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,559 budgeting process that they can start 1720 01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:20,480 this process. does not mean that just it 1721 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,920 being on this sheet is uh intended as 1722 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:24,400 that 1723 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,069 >> of that attorney's analysis. 1724 01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:26,079 » of that attorney's analysis. 1725 01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:28,069 >> I'll be happy to speak with the EDC 1726 01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:28,079 » I'll be happy to speak with the EDC 1727 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:29,520 president and and to get you that 1728 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:30,559 attorney's analysis. 1729 01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:31,430 >> Get that. 1730 01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:31,440 » Get that. 1731 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,470 >> Yes, sir. 1732 01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:32,480 » Yes, sir. 1733 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:33,910 >> Okay. If that's the case, if we still 1734 01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:33,920 » Okay. If that's the case, if we still 1735 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,400 get kind of them coming to us, then I I 1736 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,119 don't care. It's their their budget. Um 1737 01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:39,520 anybody 1738 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,829 >> Okay. I had I want to just add that 1739 01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:41,839 » Okay. I had I want to just add that 1740 01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:43,520 since there's two things on here that 1741 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,280 are well three I guess that are park 1742 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,880 related like the smart lockers and the 1743 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,240 adult changing table that we still I'm 1744 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,079 okay approving this but but it still 1745 01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:54,000 needs to at some point go through the 1746 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,799 process of the parks board to make sure 1747 01:07:56,799 --> 01:07:58,150 >> that they're good with the smart 1748 01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:58,160 » that they're good with the smart 1749 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,720 location uh or smart locker location or 1750 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:01,920 they're good with the adult changing 1751 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,760 table implementation that we're not um 1752 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,720 circumventing that board's impact on 1753 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,480 these on these projects. as well. 1754 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,910 >> We did put it in writing that it's 1755 01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:11,920 » We did put it in writing that it's 1756 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,480 required to go to them. So, 1757 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:19,120 um any I guess one final question I had 1758 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,440 or not even question more I'm hoping 1759 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:23,040 council will agree. I see on here that 1760 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,319 they want to travel to ICSC cornet or 1761 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:27,920 something like that. They put 10,000 1762 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,560 travel expenses and I think that's great 1763 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,960 that they go. I think as a city we're 1764 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,960 not ready to represent ourselves yet. I 1765 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,480 think we need to get that econom e 1766 01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:38,880 economic development manager or director 1767 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,480 on before we are doing our own booth. 1768 01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:44,400 And if that makes sense, I think they 1769 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,080 should go and learn this year. I think 1770 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,759 that'd be great, but I think we need to 1771 01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:49,279 get our stuff together a little bit more 1772 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:51,279 before we start selling ourselves. 1773 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:52,789 >> Do you read this as they're going to 1774 01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:52,799 » Do you read this as they're going to 1775 01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:55,199 actually participate or just go and 1776 01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:56,550 >> I am attend? 1777 01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:56,560 » I am attend? 1778 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,309 >> I'm not sure. and I spoke to them and I 1779 01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:58,319 » I'm not sure. and I spoke to them and I 1780 01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:00,319 don't think they're sure yet either, but 1781 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:02,239 I I think it's really important and when 1782 01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:03,839 when you look into it cuz I did do some 1783 01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:06,400 research, it's very important that we're 1784 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:07,920 presenting ourselves correctly the first 1785 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,080 time and we have someone experienced in 1786 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,319 presenting the city. Um, not necessarily 1787 01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:13,679 the volunteers of the city, even though 1788 01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:15,440 I think what they're doing is great, we 1789 01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:17,839 just need to make sure we're doing it 1790 01:09:17,839 --> 01:09:19,520 right the first time. 1791 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,269 >> So, how would we clarify that on 1792 01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:21,279 » So, how would we clarify that on 1793 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,189 >> I think going to learn is a great idea. 1794 01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:23,199 » I think going to learn is a great idea. 1795 01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:23,510 >> Yeah, 1796 01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:23,520 » Yeah, 1797 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,709 >> that that's what I think this year 1798 01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:24,719 » that that's what I think this year 1799 01:09:24,719 --> 01:09:26,400 should be. And I I really hope that the 1800 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,159 economic development manager is hired by 1801 01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:28,719 then. But 1802 01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:30,070 >> could the Could this Well, no, we can't 1803 01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:30,080 » could the Could this Well, no, we can't 1804 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,600 change this. I'm just saying could it 1805 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,319 say attending and not participating? I 1806 01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:34,719 don't [clears throat] know if 1807 01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:36,470 >> I think that's just a conversation with 1808 01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:36,480 » I think that's just a conversation with 1809 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:37,199 a conversation. 1810 01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:38,550 >> I think it's a conversation. I just 1811 01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:38,560 » I think it's a conversation. I just 1812 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,880 wanted to see if you guys agreed. 1813 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,110 >> Where does it 1814 01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:43,120 » Where does it 1815 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,470 >> It just says traveling to 1816 01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:44,480 » It just says traveling to 1817 01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,149 >> 238 1818 01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:46,159 » 238 1819 01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:47,920 260 1820 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,550 >> on your binder top left corner. 1821 01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:50,560 » on your binder top left corner. 1822 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:51,749 >> He's asking where it says participate. 1823 01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:51,759 » He's asking where it says participate. 1824 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:53,440 It doesn't say that. So Joe, could you 1825 01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:56,480 just make sure that the HC EDC type B 1826 01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:59,120 understands that from council? We don't 1827 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,880 want them setting up a booth and 1828 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,040 presenting, but more going to learn if 1829 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,080 that's what they're doing this year 1830 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,840 while we get that economic development 1831 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,560 director 1832 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,189 >> in place 1833 01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:07,199 » in place 1834 01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:08,709 >> in place 1835 01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:08,719 » in place 1836 01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:10,709 >> because that happens in Januaryish that 1837 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:10,719 » because that happens in Januaryish that 1838 01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:13,679 convention. Do you know? 1839 01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:15,520 I believe it's later in the year, but 1840 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,120 the the main one they do different 1841 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,440 things, but I believe the main one's uh 1842 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:19,910 >> I think it's 1843 01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:19,920 » I think it's 1844 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,669 >> later in the year because I believe this 1845 01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:21,679 » later in the year because I believe this 1846 01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:23,120 the one for this year I believe just 1847 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,560 passed two or three months ago. 1848 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,110 >> Yes, May. 1849 01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:25,120 » Yes, May. 1850 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:25,590 >> Thank you. 1851 01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:25,600 » Thank you. 1852 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,709 >> It took place in May. 1853 01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:26,719 » It took place in May. 1854 01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:27,030 >> So, 1855 01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:27,040 » So, 1856 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,990 >> yeah. 1857 01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:30,000 » yeah. 1858 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,830 >> Watch it. 1859 01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:31,840 » Watch it. 1860 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,760 Mr. Mayor, 1861 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,350 >> since we're done with that discussion, 1862 01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:35,360 » since we're done with that discussion, 1863 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,880 um I don't know if it's appropriate or 1864 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,120 not, but is there any way we could have 1865 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,719 uh Mike Anderson go ahead and do his 1866 01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:42,480 piece because he's paid by the hour by 1867 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:45,199 the city and he's already sat here for 1868 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:47,520 an hour and a half. 1869 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,750 >> Understood. Uh Marcy is in the middle of 1870 01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:49,760 » Understood. Uh Marcy is in the middle of 1871 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,640 her presentation. Let her close, let her 1872 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,719 finish this out. It should not take a 1873 01:10:54,719 --> 01:10:56,800 long time, but understand it's all 1874 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,800 dependent upon the discussion that you 1875 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,120 have. So, I need to understand, are you 1876 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,000 disapproving the EDC type B budget right 1877 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:04,159 now? 1878 01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:07,030 >> No, we're approving it as it's stated. 1879 01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:07,040 » No, we're approving it as it's stated. 1880 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,480 Joe's just going to provide additional 1881 01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:10,400 clarification and we're just cleaning up 1882 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,560 the verbiage for one line. Marcy, 1883 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,550 >> they cleaned up verbiage on the line and 1884 01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:16,560 » they cleaned up verbiage on the line and 1885 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,400 then they made a change in the general 1886 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,719 fund, but they did not make any changes 1887 01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:24,080 to type B other than description. 1888 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,590 >> I did have one other question on type B 1889 01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:25,600 » I did have one other question on type B 1890 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,920 on page 241. And it says park 1891 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,040 bench/cannopy 2025 and I had I don't 1892 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,600 know why but I had written down 6463. Is 1893 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,600 that completed? Is that there's nothing 1894 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,159 budgeted. I was just 1895 01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:39,920 h it's completed. 1896 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,630 >> Yeah, it shows that it is expended 2425 1897 01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:42,640 » Yeah, it shows that it is expended 2425 1898 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,159 5,863. 1899 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,229 >> Oh, then it says above it 5863. Right. 1900 01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:46,239 » Oh, then it says above it 5863. Right. 1901 01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:48,159 So I'm not but nothing's in the actual 1902 01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:50,560 um columns. 1903 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,750 >> I think it's done. 1904 01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:51,760 » I think it's done. 1905 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,310 >> It's done. 1906 01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:52,320 » It's done. 1907 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,270 >> Finished. 1908 01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:53,280 » Finished. 1909 01:11:53,280 --> 01:12:00,229 >> Complete. Thank you. 1910 01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:03,120 Okay. The ne the next one is type A. T 1911 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,520 type A really made no significant 1912 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:11,990 changes to their budget. Um 1913 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,400 I don't know that um 1914 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,030 >> can I unless 1915 01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:17,040 » can I unless 1916 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,910 >> you have some question oh sorry mayor. 1917 01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:19,920 » you have some question oh sorry mayor. 1918 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:20,390 >> Yes ma'am. 1919 01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:20,400 » Yes ma'am. 1920 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,550 >> What what is the intent and purpose of 1921 01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:22,560 » What what is the intent and purpose of 1922 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,679 our taipe? And I'm asking this because 1923 01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:27,360 we're going over the budget. So I just 1924 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,719 need to understand because they don't 1925 01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,640 meet very frequently. I feel like we 1926 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,159 have a pretty decent amount of money 1927 01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:34,000 just sitting there. 1928 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,950 >> Uh then I I'll give you that. 1929 01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:36,960 » Uh then I I'll give you that. 1930 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,189 >> Uh 1931 01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:39,199 » Uh 1932 01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:42,800 type A was uh established purely for 1933 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,600 industrial type projects. State law 1934 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,555 established it that way. And 1935 01:12:49,555 --> 01:12:52,000 [clears throat] uh type B was 1936 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,080 established. It could do industrial 1937 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,360 projects, but it's uh it was established 1938 01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:02,960 by uh legislators so that 1939 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,600 that economic development corporation 1940 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,719 could expend funds on the city itself. 1941 01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:11,760 They recognized, oh, if they could if 1942 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,000 the they had an economic development 1943 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,679 corporation that could spend money on a 1944 01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:22,159 park or help build water lines for the 1945 01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:25,440 municipality or help build a road that 1946 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:28,640 enhances the municipality, makes it more 1947 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,159 attractive indirectly making it 1948 01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:34,400 improving the economic development 1949 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,679 viability of the municipality. That was 1950 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:40,480 fundamental row and probably 1951 01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:44,640 I'm going to say two legislations ago or 1952 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,000 maybe might have been three six years 1953 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,390 >> the legislators made a change that type 1954 01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:52,400 » the legislators made a change that type 1955 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,400 A 1956 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,360 was no longer limited to just industrial 1957 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,360 projects 1958 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:04,400 that they could expend money as 1959 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,480 type B does on municipal projects. 1960 01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:10,790 >> Okay. So, can I ask you a question? 1961 01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:10,800 » Okay. So, can I ask you a question? 1962 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,149 >> One more thing. The meetings, it's in 1963 01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:14,159 » One more thing. The meetings, it's in 1964 01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:16,960 their bylaws. 1965 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,679 They meet at least once a quarter. 1966 01:14:19,679 --> 01:14:23,189 >> I I understand. But the the question is 1967 01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:23,199 » I I understand. But the the question is 1968 01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:26,159 like what are they doing to to really 1969 01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:28,719 assist the city at this point? I I 1970 01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:30,719 understand they're you're saying they're 1971 01:14:30,719 --> 01:14:31,840 for industrial. 1972 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,310 >> We haven't asked them. The city has not 1973 01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:34,320 » We haven't asked them. The city has not 1974 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,120 asked them. the the primary you know 1975 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,159 when these EDCs were established 1976 01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:43,840 originally in Hasslet, Texas and as well 1977 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:49,600 as currently as many cities use their 1978 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,360 EDCs. 1979 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,830 >> They are a funding source. 1980 01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:53,840 » They are a funding source. 1981 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,630 >> I mean but that funding 1982 01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:54,640 » I mean but that funding 1983 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,470 >> they don't say go out and hunt for 1984 01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:56,480 » they don't say go out and hunt for 1985 01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:57,280 things to do. 1986 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,630 >> No, I understand. But that funding would 1987 01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:58,640 » No, I understand. But that funding would 1988 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,400 go back to the general fund if we were 1989 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,199 to like dissolve the type A. My my 1990 01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:04,880 question being right now when industrial 1991 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,320 wouldn't it would what what would 1992 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:06,640 happen? 1993 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:11,430 >> No, this is its own fund. So um 1994 01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:11,440 » No, this is its own fund. So um 1995 01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:14,320 they're they're it's much like type um 1996 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,320 B's budget. They're budgeting just in 1997 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,640 case. The last time they had an 1998 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,239 incentive was with composits one and 1999 01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:24,560 composits one was required to add 2000 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,560 certain number of jobs and you know 2001 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,880 things like that but they don't pay the 2002 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,800 incentive until all those requirements 2003 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,560 are met and the company makes the 2004 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,960 application for reimbursement 2005 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,430 >> and so that's the last one they've had. 2006 01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:37,440 » and so that's the last one they've had. 2007 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:39,440 It's been many years that agreement has 2008 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:42,080 expired. They never ask for any 2009 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,719 reimbursement under it. So, it's really 2010 01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:47,280 just a placeholder 2011 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,440 um for that. But 2012 01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,229 >> the the economic direct development 2013 01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:52,239 » the the economic direct development 2014 01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:53,920 director 2015 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,560 as they would do their job, they'd look 2016 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,840 to type A or B to if a company came 2017 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,880 asking for an incentive or any kind of, 2018 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,800 you know, um in rebate agreement or 2019 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,719 something like that, then they would 2020 01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:10,719 have worked through that. Okay. that 2021 01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:11,920 director the director would have 2022 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,400 approached the council. You want me to 2023 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,000 ask type A and B? You know, yes. So then 2024 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:18,880 he'd work all that. 2025 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,550 >> But is there a reason that a small city 2026 01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:20,560 » But is there a reason that a small city 2027 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,320 like Hasllett would have a type A and 2028 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,840 type B? Like Ronoke, they used to have a 2029 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,440 type B. From what I can tell, they no 2030 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,520 longer have a type B. 2031 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:27,910 >> What? 2032 01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:27,920 » What? 2033 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,030 >> I can answer that. 2034 01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:29,040 » I can answer that. 2035 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:29,669 >> Okay, go for it. 2036 01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:29,679 » Okay, go for it. 2037 01:16:29,679 --> 01:16:31,510 >> That's not question. 2038 01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:31,520 » That's not question. 2039 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,030 >> The uh is the amount of tax revenue that 2040 01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:35,040 » The uh is the amount of tax revenue that 2041 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,760 you collect. you can collect the city in 2042 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,360 itself is limited to 1% 2043 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,800 the city 2044 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,790 >> so we get 1% on every dollar spent on 2045 01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:46,800 » so we get 1% on every dollar spent on 2046 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,800 taxes 2047 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,080 when you have a type A 2048 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,040 and or B 2049 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,880 they can each get up to a maximum of 1% 2050 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,480 each 2051 01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:02,709 >> may or may I'm sorry to interrupt 2052 01:17:02,709 --> 01:17:02,719 » may or may I'm sorry to interrupt 2053 01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:03,830 >> say again 2054 01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:03,840 » say again 2055 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,430 >> I was asking to be recognized but I 2056 01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:05,440 » I was asking to be recognized but I 2057 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:06,640 Didn't realize I was interrupting you. I 2058 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:06,960 apologize. 2059 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,310 >> No, you were saying something. What were 2060 01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:08,320 » No, you were saying something. What were 2061 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,040 you saying? 2062 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,590 >> I I was going to ask Well, uh just that 2063 01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:11,600 » I I was going to ask Well, uh just that 2064 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,400 the state did change at one point that 2065 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,630 >> the one the the 1 cent can go to two 2066 01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:16,640 » the one the the 1 cent can go to two 2067 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,800 cents, but it does take a a an 2068 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,640 allocation to reallocate the sale an 2069 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,560 election an election to reallocate. 2070 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,229 >> Yes, they are set up that way now. 2071 01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:24,239 » Yes, they are set up that way now. 2072 01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:26,400 That's when they were adopted. 2073 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:31,350 >> Uh right now, type B gets 1%. 2074 01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:31,360 » Uh right now, type B gets 1%. 2075 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,350 >> No. And the city No, excuse me. 2076 01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:35,360 » No. And the city No, excuse me. 2077 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,840 city gets one 2078 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:44,560 between A, B, and the uh street fund, 2079 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,280 they get 1%. 2080 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:48,070 >> Mhm. 2081 01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:48,080 » Mhm. 2082 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,070 >> A gets a half percent 2083 01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:52,080 » A gets a half percent 2084 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,280 or B gets a half percent. A gets a 2085 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,960 quarter and the street fund gets a 2086 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,709 >> of the sales tax. So, uh, when it was 2087 01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:02,719 » of the sales tax. So, uh, when it was 2088 01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:04,400 established, 2089 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,600 if you did not establish A and B, you 2090 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,880 would not get all those revenues. 2091 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:11,990 >> Mr. Mayor, 2092 01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:12,000 » Mr. Mayor, 2093 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:12,390 >> yes. 2094 01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:12,400 » yes. 2095 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,110 >> May I 2096 01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:13,120 » May I 2097 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:13,750 >> Yes, sir. 2098 01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:13,760 » Yes, sir. 2099 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,470 >> add something. Um, last week Tanya and I 2100 01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:16,480 » add something. Um, last week Tanya and I 2101 01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:18,640 went to that TML conference and they 2102 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,040 said actually a lot of uh small towns 2103 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,520 have transitioned away from EDC's 2104 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,840 because of the change in the state law 2105 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,510 >> that still allows you to to get that tax 2106 01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:29,520 » that still allows you to to get that tax 2107 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,320 money, but they're moving more towards a 2108 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,560 community uh corporation where it's it's 2109 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,880 not a EDC board any longer, but it's 2110 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,040 they can have the whole 2% in that one 2111 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,120 place and it's more directed by the city 2112 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:43,760 council. 2113 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,229 >> Mhm. And it does take an election, but 2114 01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:46,239 » Mhm. And it does take an election, but 2115 01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:48,480 EDC's, a lot of EDCs have gone away in 2116 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:50,800 smaller towns like ours because of the 2117 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,159 change in the state law that happened 2118 01:18:52,159 --> 01:18:53,840 several years ago. And so that might be 2119 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,320 something that we could look at. 2120 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:56,870 >> I agree. 2121 01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:56,880 » I agree. 2122 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,470 >> Um because they went over that 2123 01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:58,480 » Um because they went over that 2124 01:18:58,480 --> 01:18:59,760 extensively at that conference that we 2125 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,520 went to last week and I think it was 2126 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,880 very beneficial for us to be there. 2127 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,630 >> I also also would love to look at the 2128 01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:04,640 » I also also would love to look at the 2129 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,400 Amazon agreement and see if they have 2130 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,719 met all of the requirements of what was 2131 01:19:08,719 --> 01:19:10,000 set in that. Did they hire the right 2132 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,199 people? or do they do they do the 2133 01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:11,520 correct 2134 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,550 >> do they keep the number of 2135 01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:12,560 » do they keep the number of 2136 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,669 >> keep the number of um revenue or 2137 01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:15,679 » keep the number of um revenue or 2138 01:19:15,679 --> 01:19:18,159 whatever the the restrictions were or 2139 01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:20,719 the expectations were have they have 2140 01:19:20,719 --> 01:19:21,360 they done that 2141 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,510 >> because they brought up a story at TML 2142 01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:23,520 » because they brought up a story at TML 2143 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,040 where there was an incentive agreement 2144 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,679 like that and somebody audited all of 2145 01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:29,440 the things that they were they supposed 2146 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,280 to do this this this and this and they 2147 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,600 missed it by like two employees and they 2148 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,159 were able to void the contract. So, I 2149 01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:37,760 think we need to be looking at that as 2150 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,000 Tanya said as well. Um, because we pay 2151 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,360 them what, half a million dollars a year 2152 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:42,400 to be here. 2153 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:43,669 >> Yeah. 2154 01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:43,679 » Yeah. 2155 01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:45,189 >> And I don't know if anyone has looked at 2156 01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:45,199 » And I don't know if anyone has looked at 2157 01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:46,800 to make sure that they are meeting those 2158 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,400 requirements because if it was you're 2159 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:49,760 going to have to have so many employees 2160 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,159 and now they've automated their entire 2161 01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:54,070 >> their entire warehouse for example, 2162 01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:54,080 » their entire warehouse for example, 2163 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,280 they're not meeting those employee 2164 01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,840 requirements anymore. So, possibly. 2165 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,229 >> So, that's a good idea. you can make a 2166 01:20:00,229 --> 01:20:00,239 » So, that's a good idea. you can make a 2167 01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:04,080 note is to perform an audit if we need 2168 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,239 to hire somebody to perform an audit on 2169 01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:08,960 the Amazon agreement. 2170 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,030 >> I would just I would say they provide 2171 01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:11,040 » I would just I would say they provide 2172 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,320 documentation every year when they ask 2173 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,159 for reimbursement on that but they have 2174 01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:18,239 not we have not ever audited it. 2175 01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:19,910 >> Would it that be something that the type 2176 01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:19,920 » Would it that be something that the type 2177 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,560 A would do? 2178 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,950 >> Question. I mean 2179 01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:24,960 » Question. I mean 2180 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:25,990 >> what 2181 01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:26,000 » what 2182 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,189 >> uh 2183 01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:27,199 » uh 2184 01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:30,550 >> or fund if it needs to be 2185 01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:30,560 » or fund if it needs to be 2186 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,390 >> yes you guys are saying that they make 2187 01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:32,400 » yes you guys are saying that they make 2188 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,159 those agreements would they not fund 2189 01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:35,199 what's needed to audit 2190 01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:36,790 >> I don't know that a made that agreement 2191 01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:36,800 » I don't know that a made that agreement 2192 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,360 with Amazon that was city of pass 2193 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:39,910 >> that was it 2194 01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:39,920 » that was it 2195 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,910 >> that was city of pass that did that 2196 01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:41,920 » that was city of pass that did that 2197 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,270 >> goes back to why did we have a type A 2198 01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:43,280 » goes back to why did we have a type A 2199 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:44,480 then because I also know several 2200 01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:46,000 industrial buildings have come before us 2201 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,440 and I don't believe they've gone to type 2202 01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:50,480 B or type A either so I'm just wondering 2203 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:53,280 what they're doing 2204 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,040 what what a is doing. 2205 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:55,510 >> Okay. 2206 01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:55,520 » Okay. 2207 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,750 >> They will they they will do what with 2208 01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:57,760 » They will they they will do what with 2209 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,159 what the city of house goes and 2210 01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:02,960 requests. 2211 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,070 >> Mr. Mayor, 2212 01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:04,080 » Mr. Mayor, 2213 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:04,870 >> yes, 2214 01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:04,880 » yes, 2215 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,350 >> if I'm reading this right, so they have 2216 01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:07,360 » if I'm reading this right, so they have 2217 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,800 like their current budget is 2.7 million 2218 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,760 and I'm looking on page 251 of their 2219 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,560 future projects. There's nothing. 2220 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,320 um 2221 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,360 feel like I mean like they got $2.7 2222 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,520 almost $3 million and they have no 2223 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,159 future projects. They have nothing. So I 2224 01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:27,520 feel like we need to start giving them 2225 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,199 some jobs. I know they only meet every 2226 01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:32,480 quarter, but we need to start either we 2227 01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:34,080 need to we need to fix that. 2228 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,669 >> Clarify they're required to meet every 2229 01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:35,679 » Clarify they're required to meet every 2230 01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:37,120 quarter. They could meet more frequently 2231 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,480 than that. You can always do more. You 2232 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:41,040 just correct. They just have to meet at 2233 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,709 >> quarterly. There's nothing wrong with 2234 01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:42,719 » quarterly. There's nothing wrong with 2235 01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:44,960 that. Well, we either they meet, you 2236 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,400 know, that we take advantage of them 2237 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,520 meeting every quarter and we give them 2238 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,280 stuff to do that. We ask them to do 2239 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,600 things or but for their future projects, 2240 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,800 they have nothing and they have almost 2241 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,639 $3 million in their budget or their So 2242 01:21:54,639 --> 01:21:56,320 that that's something very 2243 01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,709 >> it's not until the last two budgets, I 2244 01:22:00,709 --> 01:22:00,719 » it's not until the last two budgets, I 2245 01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:03,120 believe, this budget and budget 2246 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,679 previous, maybe the one prior to that, 2247 01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:09,440 but did type B start listing money on 2248 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:11,760 projects. Here's a project project 2249 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,080 project and setting money out there. 2250 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:14,629 >> Wonderful. 2251 01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:14,639 » Wonderful. 2252 01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:17,350 >> And they were council. 2253 01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:17,360 » And they were council. 2254 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,159 You can do that, but it means nothing. 2255 01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:23,520 You cannot spend that money until you go 2256 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,920 through the formal process of adopting 2257 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,840 the project, 2258 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,920 identifying the project, establishing 2259 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:34,159 the amount of money that it will be, and 2260 01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:36,960 forwarding that with the resolution to 2261 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,000 the city to approve the project. 2262 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,480 There's a process for each one of those 2263 01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:43,280 projects. 2264 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,790 >> I understand that. I think I think what 2265 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:44,800 » I understand that. I think I think what 2266 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,080 Jazz was saying a while ago, we need to 2267 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:47,840 understand what type A does. We know 2268 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,520 what type B does. We know what all they 2269 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:50,639 can do. We need to find out what they 2270 01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:53,280 can what type A does to where we can be 2271 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,280 able to call them and be like, hey, 2272 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,669 >> can y'all do this and do what? 2273 01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:57,679 » can y'all do this and do what? 2274 01:22:57,679 --> 01:22:59,110 >> Yeah, like you're saying, work on this. 2275 01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:59,120 » Yeah, like you're saying, work on this. 2276 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,470 >> Work on this and hey, can y'all do this 2277 01:23:00,470 --> 01:23:00,480 » Work on this and hey, can y'all do this 2278 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:02,239 for us? Um, hey, can y'all make a 2279 01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:03,840 project? Can y'all look into this? 2280 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,320 Because I don't really know what type A 2281 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,679 does. You said there a lot of industrial 2282 01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:10,400 or whatever. Um, but I think if we can 2283 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,080 maybe get a list of what type A does, 2284 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,760 then I wouldn't be opposed to emailing 2285 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,159 them or calling them like, "Hey, can you 2286 01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:18,080 add this?" Because they've got money. 2287 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,360 They could be helping out the city and 2288 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,600 it's just sitting here doing nothing. 2289 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,430 >> Uh, then I would encourage you to read 2290 01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:25,440 » Uh, then I would encourage you to read 2291 01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:27,280 local government code starting with 2292 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,600 chapter 501. 2293 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,229 >> Okay. Um, I 2294 01:23:32,229 --> 01:23:32,239 » Okay. Um, I 2295 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:37,280 there are 501, 502, 503, 504. Mayor. 2296 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:37,990 >> Yes. 2297 01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:38,000 » Yes. 2298 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,669 >> And that will tell you what 2299 01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:39,679 » And that will tell you what 2300 01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:41,030 >> I thought you recognized me. 2301 01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:41,040 » I thought you recognized me. 2302 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,669 >> A and B can do 2303 01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:43,679 » A and B can do 2304 01:23:43,679 --> 01:23:45,350 >> but please read that 2305 01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:45,360 » but please read that 2306 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,189 >> and I've read that and it just it's 2307 01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:47,199 » and I've read that and it just it's 2308 01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:49,040 still determining what they are doing 2309 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,679 for us currently. But 2310 01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:53,280 regardless, I think we wait until this 2311 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,199 economic development manager or director 2312 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:56,560 is brought on because they will give us 2313 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,199 guidance on what these boards can or 2314 01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:00,560 what they can be doing and what they 2315 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,400 should be doing and they should give us 2316 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,199 direction on 2317 01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:06,800 what you were speaking of whether it 2318 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,159 would benefit us or not. They'll have 2319 01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:09,840 that experience if we hire the right 2320 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:14,800 person. also is 501 will tell you about 2321 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,120 this other type of corporation you were 2322 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,320 speaking of 2323 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,709 >> how that can be created. See, the 2324 01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:20,719 » how that can be created. See, the 2325 01:24:20,719 --> 01:24:24,480 economic development corporations aren't 2326 01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:27,840 particularly limited to a city, any 2327 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:46,790 entity. Public implation 2328 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,159 of dissolving or 2329 01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:53,520 defining or wanting to know understand 2330 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:58,719 what state statute allows you to do. 2331 01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:00,229 >> I agree. Thank you. 2332 01:25:00,229 --> 01:25:00,239 » I agree. Thank you. 2333 01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:06,310 >> Good. 2334 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,320 » Okay. Are there any other questions on a 2335 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,470 type A? 2336 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:15,840 » Um page 255 is a hotel motto occupancy 2337 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,679 tax. Um, we're basically collecting the 2338 01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:23,679 tax, but we've not identified 2339 01:25:23,679 --> 01:25:26,000 uh anything that qualifies for the funds 2340 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,840 to be spent on as a project. 2341 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,110 >> You mean like a troll? 2342 01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:31,120 » You mean like a troll? 2343 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,910 >> Yep. Uh, are there any questions on 2344 01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:33,920 » Yep. Uh, are there any questions on 2345 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,270 that? 2346 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,320 » So, just for uh everyone to know and it 2347 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,120 to be on video, what can the hotel tax 2348 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,520 be spent on? It could be spent on 2349 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,800 wayfinding to the hotels that the 2350 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:49,669 >> the one we have 2351 01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:49,679 » the one we have 2352 01:25:49,679 --> 01:25:54,229 >> collect and any kind of um 2353 01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:54,239 » collect and any kind of um 2354 01:25:54,239 --> 01:25:59,920 tourist type u attraction or um 2355 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:03,520 wayfinding to a convention center 2356 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:04,960 u 2357 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:05,910 >> public art. 2358 01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:05,920 » public art. 2359 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,990 >> Yeah, public art. the the control of it 2360 01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:10,000 » Yeah, public art. the the control of it 2361 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:10,880 is 2362 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,790 >> you can expend [snorts] 2363 01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:12,800 » you can expend [snorts] 2364 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,790 >> money on signage and advertising. 2365 01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:16,800 » money on signage and advertising. 2366 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,719 Yeah, we can advertise any of the, you 2367 01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:21,920 know, events that your city may be 2368 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,840 hosting 2369 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,350 >> that will cause increased hotel stay, 2370 01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:27,360 » that will cause increased hotel stay, 2371 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,470 >> right? Which does not include a 2372 01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:28,480 » right? Which does not include a 2373 01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,000 fireworks show, for example, because 2374 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,760 that was a discussion at TML as well. 2375 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,360 You can't use it for fireworks, right? 2376 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:34,790 >> It has to be heads and beds, as they 2377 01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:34,800 » It has to be heads and beds, as they 2378 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,199 said. 2379 01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:35,990 >> That's right. 2380 01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:36,000 » That's right. 2381 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,870 >> But we can use it for public art, 2382 01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:38,880 » But we can use it for public art, 2383 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,910 >> right? 2384 01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:39,920 » right? 2385 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:40,550 >> Public art. 2386 01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:40,560 » Public art. 2387 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,229 >> So, public art 2388 01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:42,239 » So, public art 2389 01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:45,270 >> if it will entice people to stay in a 2390 01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:45,280 » if it will entice people to stay in a 2391 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,320 hotel. That's the whole point. You're 2392 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,800 trying to get people to stay overnight 2393 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,679 in your hotels because not only you 2394 01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:55,920 going to get some hotel tax money, 2395 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,920 they're going to spend money in the 2396 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,080 restaurants and things of that nature. 2397 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,719 So, it is you can do expend that fun 2398 01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:08,320 money to entice people to stay in a 2399 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:08,880 hotel. 2400 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:09,830 >> You know what would get people to stay 2401 01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:09,840 » You know what would get people to stay 2402 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,600 in hotels? Baseball tournaments. I'm 2403 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:18,470 just saying. 2404 01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:21,760 On page 257 is the Municipal Court 2405 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,239 Security Fund. 2406 01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:27,840 On 261 is the Municipal Court Technology 2407 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,159 Fund. 2408 01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:32,960 And these two funds, their names pretty 2409 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,239 much say what they're for. Um, these are 2410 01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:39,520 fees that are assessed on uh a m 2411 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,080 municipal court fine. a portion of those 2412 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,440 fees go towards uh funding these two 2413 01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:49,600 funds. Now, last uh legislature, they 2414 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,120 decided to do away with these funds 2415 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,080 because they are um they don't generate 2416 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,080 a lot of revenue and so a lot of small 2417 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,120 towns like us um have a hard time 2418 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,440 expending them for what their purpose is 2419 01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:05,840 to provide security for the municipal 2420 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,600 core or technology for the municipal 2421 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,719 court. So last year what they decided to 2422 01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:13,520 do was make a combined municipal court 2423 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,440 security technology fund which you'll 2424 01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:18,719 see on page 269. 2425 01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:22,560 So we are discontinuing 2426 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:27,280 funds um going into uh fund 13 and 14. 2427 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,760 No revenues are coming in but we're 2428 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,520 expending until those funds are 2429 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,480 exhausted. The new the revenue we're 2430 01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:36,880 collecting is actually going into fund 2431 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,239 16. 2432 01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:39,920 But we haven't really expended anything 2433 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,600 from there because we haven't exhausted 2434 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,000 the other two funds. But these funds 2435 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,000 are, you know, like I said, something 2436 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,520 that um is added on to the court fines 2437 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,440 um to be spent on security and 2438 01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:52,639 technology. 2439 01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:55,189 >> Just to clarify, once 13 and 14 are 2440 01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:55,199 » Just to clarify, once 13 and 14 are 2441 01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:56,960 completely exhausted, they'll go away. 2442 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:57,669 >> Yes. 2443 01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:57,679 » Yes. 2444 01:28:57,679 --> 01:29:01,350 >> Thank you. 2445 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:05,440 On page 265 is uh fund 15 which is city 2446 01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:08,639 parks improvement fund. 2447 01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:11,920 This is where the uh development fees 2448 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,960 are um received. There's interest 2449 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,080 income. Those are the revenue sources 2450 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,560 um for this fund. 2451 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,040 Excuse [clears throat] me. 2452 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,920 And then um you'll see that there in the 2453 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,920 current year there's several projects 2454 01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,520 that were ongoing expecting those to be 2455 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,280 uh completed 2456 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,159 uh if not completed carried forward. But 2457 01:29:36,159 --> 01:29:41,280 then for um next year there's 210,000 2458 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,639 um added for uh electric service line 2459 01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:51,189 and receptacles at community park. 2460 01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:52,560 Any question? 2461 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:53,910 >> I was just saying trash cans are really 2462 01:29:53,910 --> 01:29:53,920 » I was just saying trash cans are really 2463 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,120 expensive. 2464 01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,669 >> Yeah. 2465 01:29:57,669 --> 01:29:57,679 » Yeah. 2466 01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:00,310 >> So, is this Marcy 2467 01:30:00,310 --> 01:30:00,320 » So, is this Marcy 2468 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,310 >> um 2469 01:30:02,310 --> 01:30:02,320 » um 2470 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,000 under this 2526 we're at 763,000 2471 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,199 and when it's lined out 250 of that is 2472 01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:10,960 community park playground. 2473 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:11,669 >> Mhm. 2474 01:30:11,669 --> 01:30:11,679 » Mhm. 2475 01:30:11,679 --> 01:30:14,390 >> Is that part of the 800,000 that we're 2476 01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:14,400 » Is that part of the 800,000 that we're 2477 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,199 talking about for the 2478 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:18,719 replacement of the playground equipment 2479 01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:20,159 or is that something else? That's 2480 01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:21,040 something else. 2481 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:21,350 >> Okay. 2482 01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:21,360 » Okay. 2483 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,189 >> I'm not sure. But it was something that 2484 01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:23,199 » I'm not sure. But it was something that 2485 01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:24,639 was in the current year and I can't 2486 01:30:24,639 --> 01:30:26,480 remember what it was. 2487 01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:27,430 >> Okay. 2488 01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:27,440 » Okay. 2489 01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:28,870 >> Oh, no. I'm not sure what that is. 2490 01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:28,880 » Oh, no. I'm not sure what that is. 2491 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:29,189 >> Yeah. 2492 01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:29,199 » Yeah. 2493 01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:30,629 >> Wait. So then we've got over a million 2494 01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:30,639 » Wait. So then we've got over a million 2495 01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:31,840 for community park. 2496 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:32,550 >> I'm sorry. 2497 01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:32,560 » I'm sorry. 2498 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,149 >> So then we have over a million for 2499 01:30:34,149 --> 01:30:34,159 » So then we have over a million for 2500 01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:35,520 community park. 2501 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,189 >> Looks like it. 2502 01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:37,199 » Looks like it. 2503 01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:38,390 >> If that's carried forward. 2504 01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:38,400 » If that's carried forward. 2505 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,910 >> Yeah. It's near March, but it might not 2506 01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:39,920 » Yeah. It's near March, but it might not 2507 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,360 get spent. [clears throat] 2508 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,750 >> So should we maybe take the other 300 2509 01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:43,760 » So should we maybe take the other 300 2510 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,480 out and leave this 250? 2511 01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:47,910 >> I think every dollar we can put towards 2512 01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:47,920 » I think every dollar we can put towards 2513 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,520 the parks would be a good thing. I think 2514 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:50,960 we have to be reasonable for the size of 2515 01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:51,679 city we are. 2516 01:30:51,679 --> 01:30:54,470 >> I understand but it hasn't been 2517 01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:54,480 » I understand but it hasn't been 2518 01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:56,390 >> really all we have going for us or the 2519 01:30:56,390 --> 01:30:56,400 » really all we have going for us or the 2520 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,719 parks right now. 2521 01:30:58,719 --> 01:30:59,110 >> I don't know. 2522 01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:59,120 » I don't know. 2523 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,790 >> The bathrooms need to be replaced. 2524 01:31:00,790 --> 01:31:00,800 » The bathrooms need to be replaced. 2525 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,790 >> We have all kinds of stuff. 2526 01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:02,800 » We have all kinds of stuff. 2527 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:03,750 >> Yeah. 2528 01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:03,760 » Yeah. 2529 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,590 >> The way I look at it is we're we're a 2530 01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:05,600 » The way I look at it is we're we're a 2531 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,040 small town, but just because we're a 2532 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,239 small town doesn't mean we can't have 2533 01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:09,120 nice things. 2534 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,189 >> We could change community park instead 2535 01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:11,199 » We could change community park instead 2536 01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:12,320 of playground. It could just be 2537 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,320 community park park and we we take out 2538 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,280 the word playground so it can be more um 2539 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,280 universally used for like I said um like 2540 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,520 restrooms or um electricity or it means 2541 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,480 something else. 2542 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:29,270 >> Keep it. 2543 01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:29,280 » Keep it. 2544 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:30,709 >> It was in last year's budget. It's not 2545 01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:30,719 » It was in last year's budget. It's not 2546 01:31:30,719 --> 01:31:31,199 this year's 2547 01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:32,550 >> project is in the current year. 2548 01:31:32,550 --> 01:31:32,560 » project is in the current year. 2549 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:33,510 >> That was last year. 2550 01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:33,520 » That was last year. 2551 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,590 >> Oh, okay. 2552 01:31:35,590 --> 01:31:35,600 » Oh, okay. 2553 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,510 >> Yeah, that was last year's budget. 2554 01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:37,520 » Yeah, that was last year's budget. 2555 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:38,709 >> 268. 2556 01:31:38,709 --> 01:31:38,719 » 268. 2557 01:31:38,719 --> 01:31:39,510 >> Okay. So, it's been 2558 01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:39,520 » Okay. So, it's been 2559 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,229 >> the 250,000. Yeah. Is that a carryover 2560 01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:42,239 » the 250,000. Yeah. Is that a carryover 2561 01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:43,280 or is it was last year? 2562 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:44,629 >> It was Well, right now it's just listed 2563 01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:44,639 » It was Well, right now it's just listed 2564 01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:45,760 as last year's year, but just not 2565 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,430 >> not carried over. Okay. 2566 01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:47,440 » not carried over. Okay. 2567 01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:50,470 >> I don't know. 2568 01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:50,480 » I don't know. 2569 01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:52,470 >> So, I think that was the original fall 2570 01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:52,480 » So, I think that was the original fall 2571 01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:55,760 zones and uh swing sets that were in 2572 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:57,600 community park. It's the one that's next 2573 01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,440 to the basketball court. And I think 2574 01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:00,800 they thought at one time that would 2575 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,960 replace in kind the exact playground 2576 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,320 that was there. So, 2577 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:05,990 >> I think that was the original scope of 2578 01:32:05,990 --> 01:32:06,000 » I think that was the original scope of 2579 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,760 this one. 2580 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,870 >> So, this wasn't So, this wasn't spent 2581 01:32:10,870 --> 01:32:10,880 » So, this wasn't So, this wasn't spent 2582 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:11,760 Okay. 2583 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,189 >> So, does this carry forward or does it 2584 01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:13,199 » So, does this carry forward or does it 2585 01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:13,920 just go away? 2586 01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,830 >> Goes away. 2587 01:32:15,830 --> 01:32:15,840 » Goes away. 2588 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,149 >> It'll just go back into their balance. 2589 01:32:18,149 --> 01:32:18,159 » It'll just go back into their balance. 2590 01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:18,950 >> Okay. James, 2591 01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:18,960 » Okay. James, 2592 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,390 >> it's not needed. 2593 01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:20,400 » it's not needed. 2594 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:21,910 >> Sorry, Marcy. 2595 01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:21,920 » Sorry, Marcy. 2596 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,350 >> U was the upper tap trail crossing drain 2597 01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:25,360 » U was the upper tap trail crossing drain 2598 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,120 improvements. Is that what you uh 2599 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:27,600 worked? 2600 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,510 >> That was I was just asking is that the 2601 01:32:29,510 --> 01:32:29,520 » That was I was just asking is that the 2602 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,280 is that the project you did that goes 2603 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:32,800 under the bridge that you kind of 2604 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:34,080 reworked all that last year? That was 2605 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,320 the That was the drainage crossing at 2606 01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,280 the far at the west end of the park 2607 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,870 >> where the tap trail goes across. And 2608 01:32:40,870 --> 01:32:40,880 » where the tap trail goes across. And 2609 01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,360 then we also did underneath the 156 2610 01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:44,400 bridge, but those were all those 2611 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,360 drainage improvements. 2612 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,510 >> Okay, that's what that is. Okay, 2613 01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:47,520 » Okay, that's what that is. Okay, 2614 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,510 >> I'm sorry. 2615 01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:49,520 » I'm sorry. 2616 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:55,350 >> This upper 10 trail cross improve. 2617 01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:56,480 » Oh, okay. 2618 01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:58,310 >> I was completed. I'll just ask I'll just 2619 01:32:58,310 --> 01:32:58,320 » I was completed. I'll just ask I'll just 2620 01:32:58,320 --> 01:32:59,760 clarify what that project was. I do have 2621 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,440 a question about the UG electrical 2622 01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:02,880 service line and receptacles because we 2623 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:04,480 have several line items for trash cans 2624 01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:06,480 for the parks this year. So, just trying 2625 01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:09,440 to figure out what's going on with that. 2626 01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:12,149 >> Okay. We in our on andm budget because 2627 01:33:12,149 --> 01:33:12,159 » Okay. We in our on andm budget because 2628 01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:13,679 it wasn't enough to be a capital, we 2629 01:33:13,679 --> 01:33:15,679 asked to replace the existing trash cans 2630 01:33:15,679 --> 01:33:17,679 that were in community park and Gamble. 2631 01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:19,040 They've been there for the better half 2632 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,320 of 20 years and they're 2633 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:23,510 >> Wasn't enough at the 4th of July. I 2634 01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:23,520 » Wasn't enough at the 4th of July. I 2635 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:24,880 think trash was all over the ground. We 2636 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,800 just asked uh pretty much replace all 2637 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,480 those with something that's going to 2638 01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:30,719 hold up hopefully for another 20 years. 2639 01:33:30,719 --> 01:33:34,320 Uh then we had a list of park projects 2640 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,040 that the park board had identified and 2641 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:38,800 we've done like a lot of those were the 2642 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,080 uh drainage improvements. But this uh 2643 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,440 the electric service line and 2644 01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:46,480 receptacles they desire to have around 2645 01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:49,600 the uh that kind of inner circle there 2646 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,600 around the uh basketball court. They 2647 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,400 want uh power for vendors and things 2648 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,000 during uh events. And then also uh they 2649 01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:59,679 also I mean I don't think it lays it out 2650 01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:01,760 here, but they wanted the same thing 2651 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,159 around the entire trail with improved 2652 01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:05,920 path lighting. Those were projects that 2653 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,639 are just they were identified years ago 2654 01:34:08,639 --> 01:34:10,639 and they're slowly being funded. So 2655 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:11,590 >> Okay. Got it. 2656 01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:11,600 » Okay. Got it. 2657 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,629 >> So James, I have a little bit of a 2658 01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:14,639 » So James, I have a little bit of a 2659 01:34:14,639 --> 01:34:17,679 little bit of knowledge here. When you 2660 01:34:17,679 --> 01:34:19,360 say 2661 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,600 providing power for vendors, does that 2662 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,040 include the food trucks so they don't 2663 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,880 have to bring generators and the blowup 2664 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,159 so they don't have to bring generators? 2665 01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:27,910 >> Yeah, the 20 amp. 2666 01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:27,920 » Yeah, the 20 amp. 2667 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:29,430 >> That'd be the idea. Yeah, it would be 2668 01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:29,440 » That'd be the idea. Yeah, it would be 2669 01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:31,600 it'd be an upgrade of the service and 2670 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,840 then the intent is to provide power so 2671 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,199 we don't we can cut down on some of the 2672 01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:36,159 noise and also 2673 01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:37,110 >> that would be amazing. 2674 01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:37,120 » that would be amazing. 2675 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,790 >> Have better vendors that could, you 2676 01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:38,800 » Have better vendors that could, you 2677 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,000 know, do more with that 2678 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,270 >> because I know all the food trucks have 2679 01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:41,280 » because I know all the food trucks have 2680 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,280 to have those big plugs or they have to 2681 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,440 use generators. they can't just roll up 2682 01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:48,719 and do their thing. Um, so you're 2683 01:34:48,719 --> 01:34:50,159 putting you're starting to put some 2684 01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:52,000 plugs in in some places that they can we 2685 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,440 can get rid of some of those generator. 2686 01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:55,430 >> Yeah, that's what this this project was 2687 01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:55,440 » Yeah, that's what this this project was 2688 01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:57,440 on that inner loop was to provide that 2689 01:34:57,440 --> 01:34:59,120 so when we have an event that they'd 2690 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,440 have access to power and negate the need 2691 01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:02,000 for that, 2692 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,030 >> right? Thank you, sir. 2693 01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:03,040 » right? Thank you, sir. 2694 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:04,709 >> When when we're looking at that side 2695 01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:04,719 » When when we're looking at that side 2696 01:35:04,719 --> 01:35:07,280 note, can we just look at possibly 2697 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:08,960 something for speakers for the 4th of 2698 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,120 July because great show couldn't hear a 2699 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:12,560 thing where everyone was sitting. I 2700 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:13,760 don't know about anybody else that was 2701 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,120 there, but you couldn't hear the music 2702 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,440 going on with the show. So, even if it's 2703 01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:19,280 just plugs towards that front of the 2704 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,360 park where we can plug in some speakers 2705 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,760 so we can actually hear the music 2706 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,430 >> be good. 2707 01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:25,440 » be good. 2708 01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:26,070 >> Were you there? 2709 01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:26,080 » Were you there? 2710 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,830 >> I just did my own on my phone cuz I 2711 01:35:27,830 --> 01:35:27,840 » I just did my own on my phone cuz I 2712 01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:28,719 couldn't hear it either. 2713 01:35:28,719 --> 01:35:32,950 >> Yeah. 2714 01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,560 » Okay. Uh, next fund is page 273. It's a 2715 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,440 library board fund. uh the library 2716 01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:43,360 board. Um this fund 2717 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,360 provides money for the summer reading 2718 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,840 club, some special projects that they 2719 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,760 may have and any kind of uh small 2720 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,040 furniture equipment. um some things that 2721 01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,280 um 2722 01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,199 it's very 2723 01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:03,910 >> did the um I'm sorry the um revenue that 2724 01:36:03,910 --> 01:36:03,920 » did the um I'm sorry the um revenue that 2725 01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,920 comes in um once again on the utility 2726 01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,920 bill when uh someone contributes to the 2727 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,040 park fund. The general fund matches that 2728 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:20,320 same donation um for the library. 2729 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,080 So they have 15,000 of their own money 2730 01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:23,679 coming in and we're putting in 15,000. 2731 01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:25,360 Is that right? 2732 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:26,950 >> No, that's [clears throat] their only 2733 01:36:26,950 --> 01:36:26,960 » No, that's [clears throat] their only 2734 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,960 that's the only funds they have in 2735 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,360 coming in besides interest income. 2736 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:32,390 >> So where is our 2737 01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:32,400 » So where is our 2738 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,189 >> the parks board gets 15,000 and that 2739 01:36:35,189 --> 01:36:35,199 » the parks board gets 15,000 and that 2740 01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:37,120 triggers what the general fund gives 2741 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:38,480 parks board and library? 2742 01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:39,990 >> Library. 2743 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:40,000 » Library. 2744 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,830 >> Okay. 2745 01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:41,840 » Okay. 2746 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,189 >> But they haven't asked for any increase 2747 01:36:43,189 --> 01:36:43,199 » But they haven't asked for any increase 2748 01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:51,590 in any of this. The library board. Okay. 2749 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,639 Uh then on page 277 2750 01:36:54,639 --> 01:36:58,400 is the transportation sales tax fund. 2751 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,000 And I'm not sure um if y'all want to 2752 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:03,360 discuss that now or if you want to take 2753 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,760 that up in capital. These are repair 2754 01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,840 projects um for streets. Uh that's the 2755 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,080 purpose of the transportation sales tax. 2756 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,360 It cannot be used to create a new road 2757 01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,719 um or rebuild a road. It's just for 2758 01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:23,040 maintenance of existing roads 2759 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:24,149 >> and [clears throat] it's a funding 2760 01:37:24,149 --> 01:37:24,159 » and [clears throat] it's a funding 2761 01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:25,040 source. 2762 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,430 >> Yes. And so the um the revenue for this 2763 01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:29,440 » Yes. And so the um the revenue for this 2764 01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:32,800 is the uh quarter cent sales tax and 2765 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,800 interest income. 2766 01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,400 And then uh the project slated for next 2767 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:44,719 year is a Hlet Park inter interim repair 2768 01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:47,040 um on the HMA. I'm not sure what that 2769 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,880 stands for. 2770 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:50,400 Um, 2771 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,199 phase one striping plan 2772 01:37:53,199 --> 01:37:56,320 and Bane Road reconstruction. 2773 01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,119 Um, we were carrying that forward, but I 2774 01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:00,960 think maybe it maybe needs to be put 2775 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,520 back in the current year if we're doing 2776 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,679 the ILA. Will we be doing that before 2777 01:38:05,679 --> 01:38:06,719 October one? 2778 01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:12,870 >> Which one? 2779 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,040 » Yeah, it's on there. 2780 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,270 >> Mhm. Yes. 2781 01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:17,280 » Mhm. Yes. 2782 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,199 be done before. 2783 01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:21,350 >> Okay. So, that'll be in the current 2784 01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:21,360 » Okay. So, that'll be in the current 2785 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,280 year. Um, 2786 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:24,790 >> wait. So, it won't carry over is what 2787 01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:24,800 » wait. So, it won't carry over is what 2788 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,960 you're saying because it'll be done. 2789 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,550 >> Yeah. We didn't think it was going to be 2790 01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:28,560 » Yeah. We didn't think it was going to be 2791 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,320 done, but you all approved that ILA 2792 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:31,440 Monday night. Okay. 2793 01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:36,550 >> So, um, and then, uh, Water Crest, 2794 01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:36,560 » So, um, and then, uh, Water Crest, 2795 01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,400 Verona, North Glenn, Wimberly. There's 2796 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,880 some repairs uh in water crest that um 2797 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,760 750,000 is allocated for. 2798 01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,669 >> Why did I I have written down one block 2799 01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:47,679 » Why did I I have written down one block 2800 01:38:47,679 --> 01:38:50,080 500,000. I mean I see the 750. I just 2801 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:51,679 wonder what my notes were that I wrote 2802 01:38:51,679 --> 01:38:54,880 down one block 500,000 next to Water 2803 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,679 Crest Verona. You'll explain that or why 2804 01:38:57,679 --> 01:38:58,239 did I write that? 2805 01:38:58,239 --> 01:39:00,629 >> Yes, ma'am. There was a Verona itself 2806 01:39:00,629 --> 01:39:00,639 » Yes, ma'am. There was a Verona itself 2807 01:39:00,639 --> 01:39:03,600 that 340 ft was about a half a million 2808 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:04,080 dollars. 2809 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:05,350 >> So that's what you 2810 01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:05,360 » So that's what you 2811 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,070 >> in addition to the 750. Um, I believe we 2812 01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:08,080 » in addition to the 750. Um, I believe we 2813 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:12,080 combined some other known um pavement 2814 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,040 repairs uh on top of that 500. 2815 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:15,270 >> Okay. 2816 01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:15,280 » Okay. 2817 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:16,310 >> Does that make sense? 2818 01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:16,320 » Does that make sense? 2819 01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:17,270 >> Yes. 2820 01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:17,280 » Yes. 2821 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,709 >> Mayor. 2822 01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:18,719 » Mayor. 2823 01:39:18,719 --> 01:39:19,270 >> Yes, ma'am. 2824 01:39:19,270 --> 01:39:19,280 » Yes, ma'am. 2825 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,590 >> Can I ask um kind of why Careway keeps 2826 01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:21,600 » Can I ask um kind of why Careway keeps 2827 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:22,880 getting put off? This has been a problem 2828 01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,719 since the community was built. The front 2829 01:39:24,719 --> 01:39:26,960 drainage and the side drainage like 2830 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,440 every year it just never happens. And 2831 01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:31,199 again, it got axed for this year, it 2832 01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:34,000 looks like, because I know we did some 2833 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,440 simple um band-aid solutions that did 2834 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:40,000 not work. So, do we 2835 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,590 >> It's cuz we're working. 2836 01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:41,600 » It's cuz we're working. 2837 01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,030 >> Say that again. 2838 01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:43,040 » Say that again. 2839 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,030 >> That place, I didn't hear the question. 2840 01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:45,040 » That place, I didn't hear the question. 2841 01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,189 >> Careway, the drainage issue on the two 2842 01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:47,199 » Careway, the drainage issue on the two 2843 01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:49,199 entrances for Careway where there's a 2844 01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:51,840 constant small pool of water. It keeps 2845 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,360 getting put off. I know this past year 2846 01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:54,960 we've tried some band-aids. They 2847 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,870 >> Yeah, there were two there's two sites. 2848 01:39:56,870 --> 01:39:56,880 » Yeah, there were two there's two sites. 2849 01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,400 One is at the main entry, 2850 01:39:58,400 --> 01:39:58,870 >> correct? 2851 01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:58,880 » correct? 2852 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,350 >> And then the other is on is it 2853 01:40:01,350 --> 01:40:01,360 » And then the other is on is it 2854 01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,109 >> Syena 2855 01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:03,119 » Syena 2856 01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:03,990 >> Sienna? 2857 01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:04,000 » Sienna? 2858 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,790 >> It's Yeah, it it's at the north entrance 2859 01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:06,800 » It's Yeah, it it's at the north entrance 2860 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:07,280 of 2861 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:08,790 >> Right. That's on the north end. 2862 01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:08,800 » Right. That's on the north end. 2863 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:09,270 >> Correct. 2864 01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:09,280 » Correct. 2865 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,629 >> And there I know that nothing has been 2866 01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:12,639 » And there I know that nothing has been 2867 01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:15,440 done with regard to the main entry. 2868 01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:16,950 >> That's always existed. 2869 01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:16,960 » That's always existed. 2870 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:17,350 >> So, 2871 01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:17,360 » So, 2872 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:22,310 >> and the Siana, they tried to u shave 2873 01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:22,320 » and the Siana, they tried to u shave 2874 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:23,600 down the concrete. 2875 01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:24,229 >> It didn't work. 2876 01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:24,239 » It didn't work. 2877 01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:28,470 >> It didn't work. Yeah. and so but yes 2878 01:40:28,470 --> 01:40:28,480 » It didn't work. Yeah. and so but yes 2879 01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:33,119 u Mr. Tucker has a plan of action for 2880 01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:35,679 the entry at least that one. Tell us 2881 01:40:35,679 --> 01:40:36,480 what that is. 2882 01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:38,550 >> So to be clear, we did do foam 2883 01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:38,560 » So to be clear, we did do foam 2884 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,600 injections on the entryway there. There 2885 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,480 is no way to without rebuilding that to 2886 01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:47,440 to solve that issue. We did get minor 2887 01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:50,800 improvement on that. I guess as you exit 2888 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,400 there in the front entrance as you exit, 2889 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,360 it's not perfect by any means, but it is 2890 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,800 not holding 4 in of water there. And and 2891 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,040 one of the reasons is these are 2892 01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:02,480 cosmetic. I mean, they're they 2893 01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:04,000 definitely need to be fixed. They they 2894 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,679 don't look good. They do need to be 2895 01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:07,679 fixed, but uh the ones in Water Crest, 2896 01:41:07,679 --> 01:41:09,760 they're drivability issues. So, as one 2897 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,360 of the reasons why the priority has been 2898 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:12,960 lower than what's in Water Crest and 2899 01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,960 North Glenn, because those are actual 2900 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,199 pavement failures. The other ones are 2901 01:41:17,199 --> 01:41:19,679 holding water, but the road is stable 2902 01:41:19,679 --> 01:41:22,800 and it hasn't caused any major issue 2903 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,800 besides you're driving through water 2904 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,960 there. So, do we do we not have the 2905 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,440 ability to work on both things at the 2906 01:41:29,440 --> 01:41:31,360 same time? Because the it looks like the 2907 01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,199 budget is definitely there. And I I 2908 01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:37,440 think I see that um Mr. Anderson has it 2909 01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:41,109 marked as 2910 01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:43,280 Where did it go? 2911 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:44,149 >> And on the interest 2912 01:41:44,149 --> 01:41:44,159 » And on the interest 2913 01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:45,990 >> 200,000, we could at least get the 2914 01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:46,000 » 200,000, we could at least get the 2915 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,520 design going, I would think, to fix 2916 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,040 these roads because Careway in general 2917 01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,360 has a ton of drainage issues. 2918 01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:52,229 >> Yes. 2919 01:41:52,229 --> 01:41:52,239 » Yes. 2920 01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,070 >> Yeah. I think one of the one of the 2921 01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:54,080 » Yeah. I think one of the one of the 2922 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:55,679 things that we were trying to do on the 2923 01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:59,760 water crest uh the 750,000 2924 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,719 I believe we we had taken the 500 we had 2925 01:42:02,719 --> 01:42:04,320 done a detailed cost estimate and 2926 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,119 concept plan for Verona Drive there were 2927 01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:09,760 some u known deficiencies on Wimberly 2928 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,560 but those those have been or are under 2929 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:13,360 construction right now 2930 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:14,870 >> correct we're taking those out of 2931 01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:14,880 » correct we're taking those out of 2932 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,189 >> the so so what I would recommend is 2933 01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:17,199 » the so so what I would recommend is 2934 01:42:17,199 --> 01:42:19,280 you're right there's 200,000 that we put 2935 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,000 in a as a wedge an estimate for the 2936 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:22,960 entry 2937 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,159 Um, we could look at doing trying to 2938 01:42:26,159 --> 01:42:28,159 come up with a concept. We need to get 2939 01:42:28,159 --> 01:42:29,520 surveying done because it's going to 2940 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,080 involve drainage or installation of a 2941 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:36,320 drainage um basin or an inlet as part of 2942 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,560 this next year. And if there's if we 2943 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,440 determine that it's a $150,000 fix, well 2944 01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:44,560 then presuming Verona costs $500,000, 2945 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:45,920 there would be money to take care of it 2946 01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:47,360 with that item. Well, even if we just 2947 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:48,719 take the Bane Road since that's going to 2948 01:42:48,719 --> 01:42:50,719 be done and move that 200,000 to Careway 2949 01:42:50,719 --> 01:42:53,199 so we can at least be looking at this 2950 01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:54,719 problem instead of pushing it even 2951 01:42:54,719 --> 01:42:55,840 further down the road because like you 2952 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,080 said, this requires investigation. 2953 01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,920 Band-aids have been tried to be applied 2954 01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:01,920 and it's not solving the issue. And I 2955 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,199 just want to make sure we're looking at 2956 01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:07,119 both the north um entrance and the main 2957 01:43:07,119 --> 01:43:10,080 entrance because they're they're both 2958 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,719 equally pretty bad. I actually sent a 2959 01:43:12,719 --> 01:43:17,040 picture to Tanya. It's a constant pond. 2960 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,199 Yeah, the entry is the worst of the two. 2961 01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:20,239 Michael, 2962 01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:23,270 >> since you did the phone, it depends. It 2963 01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:23,280 » since you did the phone, it depends. It 2964 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,719 honestly depends. Um, lately, I don't 2965 01:43:26,719 --> 01:43:28,639 know if it's what you did maybe helped 2966 01:43:28,639 --> 01:43:30,639 slightly. The entrance, in my opinion, 2967 01:43:30,639 --> 01:43:32,400 has been slightly better, but 2968 01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:33,990 >> yeah, just the exit coming out of there. 2969 01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:34,000 » yeah, just the exit coming out of there. 2970 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,880 We did notice that. I mean, I feel like 2971 01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,040 we got about 75% out of that and that 2972 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:40,960 was an improvement. We get attempted on 2973 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,480 the other one. There's very little they 2974 01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:44,480 can do because it does either need to be 2975 01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:46,800 reconstructed or really like you said a 2976 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,639 collector and drained it off. There's 2977 01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:50,239 just it's so flat through there. There's 2978 01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:53,520 no way without changing harm in there to 2979 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,119 get it to drain differently. So 2980 01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:57,119 collecting it and having it in a storm 2981 01:43:57,119 --> 01:44:00,080 drain is the answer in the very back. 2982 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,080 That one is seasonal. So there is parts 2983 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,280 of the year where there's so much 2984 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,639 pavement moving. There's parts of the 2985 01:44:04,639 --> 01:44:06,719 year that it will drain. And there's 2986 01:44:06,719 --> 01:44:08,239 also parts where we had tons of rain, 2987 01:44:08,239 --> 01:44:10,159 tons of water, it swells and then it 2988 01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:12,719 holds up and it's so it's hard to judge 2989 01:44:12,719 --> 01:44:15,440 how bad that is. But the pavement is 2990 01:44:15,440 --> 01:44:17,280 holding up. But as far as for driving 2991 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,040 through the water, it is absolutely I 2992 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:20,159 mean not what you want. 2993 01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:22,390 >> As someone who walks that almost I mean 2994 01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:22,400 » As someone who walks that almost I mean 2995 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,159 every few days, not right now because 2996 01:44:24,159 --> 01:44:26,880 it's August, but I I've never seen a 2997 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,440 time where it's completely dried up in 2998 01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:32,000 front of that house. I don't think even 2999 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,920 in the winter. I I've never seen it 3000 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:34,400 completely. 3001 01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:35,990 >> No, it absolutely needs to be fixed. So, 3002 01:44:35,990 --> 01:44:36,000 » No, it absolutely needs to be fixed. So, 3003 01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,159 I'd love to see that done. And if that's 3004 01:44:38,159 --> 01:44:41,440 a solution, uh, Mike, on the cost, do we 3005 01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:43,280 ever do a cost estimate for the the one 3006 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,199 in the very back of the neighborhood? 3007 01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:48,070 >> I think we have I think we put another 3008 01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:48,080 » I think we have I think we put another 3009 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,520 200,000 in there for that 3010 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:50,470 >> two or 250. 3011 01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:50,480 » two or 250. 3012 01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:51,189 >> Okay. 3013 01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:51,199 » Okay. 3014 01:44:51,199 --> 01:44:53,510 >> Total or for like 200,000 for one, 3015 01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:53,520 » Total or for like 200,000 for one, 3016 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:54,560 200,000 for 3017 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:55,990 >> for each for each. 3018 01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:56,000 » for each for each. 3019 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,470 >> Okay. So, then question for you. With 3020 01:44:58,470 --> 01:44:58,480 » Okay. So, then question for you. With 3021 01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:00,800 everything else you have going on, do 3022 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,960 you think 200,000 this year is enough to 3023 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,960 get you going with other priorities or 3024 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:06,400 do you think you really need that full 3025 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,800 amount for both to get moving? 3026 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,390 >> I think if we're just trying to look at 3027 01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:10,400 » I think if we're just trying to look at 3028 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,360 the design for for both of those, we 3029 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,560 could probably do that for $50,000 or 3030 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:17,920 less, the survey and the design. 3031 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,109 >> You also need to investigate a little 3032 01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:19,119 » You also need to investigate a little 3033 01:45:19,119 --> 01:45:19,920 bit, right? 3034 01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,470 >> Yes, ma'am. But I we we've we've got 3035 01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:22,480 » Yes, ma'am. But I we we've we've got 3036 01:45:22,480 --> 01:45:24,800 enough information available from the 3037 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,320 plans and uh the geotech. So, I think if 3038 01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:29,840 you if you wanted to get something 3039 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,960 going, just put 50,000 in there. 3040 01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:34,870 >> I'm going to ask that the 200,000 from 3041 01:45:34,870 --> 01:45:34,880 » I'm going to ask that the 200,000 from 3042 01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:38,480 Bane be moved to the Careway R. 3043 01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:40,149 >> Do we need to change the title or is 3044 01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:40,159 » Do we need to change the title or is 3045 01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:42,400 that current Careway RC panel 3046 01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,080 replacement design repair entrance? Is 3047 01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:45,679 that good enough for both entrances? 3048 01:45:45,679 --> 01:45:47,669 >> Excuse me. You're moving. You want to 3049 01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:47,679 » Excuse me. You're moving. You want to 3050 01:45:47,679 --> 01:45:50,480 move You want to not do Bane Road. 3051 01:45:50,480 --> 01:45:51,590 >> They're saying that it's going to be 3052 01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:51,600 » They're saying that it's going to be 3053 01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,560 done this year, 3054 01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:55,910 >> so we won't need that. it was going to 3055 01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:55,920 » so we won't need that. it was going to 3056 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:56,639 come off anyways. 3057 01:45:56,639 --> 01:45:59,510 >> Are we certain of that? 3058 01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:59,520 » Are we certain of that? 3059 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,990 >> You're absolutely certain of that? 3060 01:46:01,990 --> 01:46:02,000 » You're absolutely certain of that? 3061 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:03,910 >> I I don't believe that I said Bane Road 3062 01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:03,920 » I I don't believe that I said Bane Road 3063 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:05,920 would be done this year. 3064 01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,229 >> So, no. I would recommend you not do 3065 01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:08,239 » So, no. I would recommend you not do 3066 01:46:08,239 --> 01:46:09,280 that. 3067 01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,430 >> Bane Bane Road. Let just just so 3068 01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:11,440 » Bane Bane Road. Let just just so 3069 01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:13,360 everybody knows that the plan with the 3070 01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:15,520 county based on the interlocal that you 3071 01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,560 all executed on Monday. Um they're going 3072 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,800 to try to get to Bane Road first. The 3073 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,520 countyy's targeting the end of August, 3074 01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,199 but it'll probably be September. And 3075 01:46:25,199 --> 01:46:27,679 then I don't know how how and when they 3076 01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:28,880 bill you. 3077 01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,470 >> I don't know exactly how long it's going 3078 01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:30,480 » I don't know exactly how long it's going 3079 01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,040 to take them. So So Bane and Maxwell are 3080 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,360 probably will start this year, but the 3081 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:36,880 funds will probably need to carry over 3082 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,920 into next year. Well, I would leave it 3083 01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,550 >> Bane is in the current year and I just 3084 01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:42,560 » Bane is in the current year and I just 3085 01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,560 showed it on here because at the time I 3086 01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,040 did this, we didn't expect it would 3087 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,480 start before the end of the year, but I 3088 01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:53,440 can move it back. I mean, it's not it's 3089 01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:56,000 currently it's 26. 3090 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,629 >> So, if we start our original budget? 3091 01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:58,639 » So, if we start our original budget? 3092 01:46:58,639 --> 01:47:00,550 >> Yes, it was in our original budget. 3093 01:47:00,550 --> 01:47:00,560 » Yes, it was in our original budget. 3094 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:01,270 >> Okay. So, 3095 01:47:01,270 --> 01:47:01,280 » Okay. So, 3096 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,229 >> then move it back to 2526. Correct. And 3097 01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:04,239 » then move it back to 2526. Correct. And 3098 01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:06,560 what is not if it's not expended, 3099 01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:07,990 >> it'll carry forward. Yes. 3100 01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:08,000 » it'll carry forward. Yes. 3101 01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:09,990 >> And then I think on the Careway RC panel 3102 01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:10,000 » And then I think on the Careway RC panel 3103 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,400 we put in this year's budget. Right now 3104 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:13,760 it's 60,000. 3105 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,510 >> No. Well, in this 3106 01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:15,520 » No. Well, in this 3107 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,470 >> so I say we put 60,000 in the 2020. So 3108 01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:18,480 » so I say we put 60,000 in the 2020. So 3109 01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:20,480 we at least put the 60 we carry that 3110 01:47:20,480 --> 01:47:21,840 over. 3111 01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,189 >> I would like to put a little bit more 3112 01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:23,199 » I would like to put a little bit more 3113 01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:24,960 just in case it just in case it is a 3114 01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:27,119 simple fix and they get in there and 3115 01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:29,360 they're like, "Hey, we we can like you 3116 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,679 said $100,000 can correct this. We have 3117 01:47:31,679 --> 01:47:33,760 it available." And if not, it carries 3118 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:34,880 and it's 3119 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:36,470 >> So you want to double it to 120 or you 3120 01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:36,480 » So you want to double it to 120 or you 3121 01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:37,920 want to do um 3122 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:38,229 >> Sure. 3123 01:47:38,229 --> 01:47:38,239 » Sure. 3124 01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:39,270 >> You also have contingencies. So 3125 01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:39,280 » You also have contingencies. So 3126 01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:40,870 >> Sure. If we if we do 120, I feel like 3127 01:47:40,870 --> 01:47:40,880 » Sure. If we if we do 120, I feel like 3128 01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,560 that's enough to get them moving. 3129 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,510 >> So 120,000 is what we're both proposing 3130 01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:45,520 » So 120,000 is what we're both proposing 3131 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:49,520 into the Careway RC panel replacement. 3132 01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:50,629 >> Um request. 3133 01:47:50,629 --> 01:47:50,639 » Um request. 3134 01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:52,070 >> That's both locations. 3135 01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:52,080 » That's both locations. 3136 01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:52,470 >> 20. 3137 01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:52,480 » 20. 3138 01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:54,390 >> Yes, both locations. If we need to 3139 01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:54,400 » Yes, both locations. If we need to 3140 01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,000 change the verbiage. 3141 01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,550 >> So is that an additional 60 or an 3142 01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:58,560 » So is that an additional 60 or an 3143 01:47:58,560 --> 01:47:59,840 additional 120? 3144 01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:00,790 >> Public works. 3145 01:48:00,790 --> 01:48:00,800 » Public works. 3146 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,550 >> 120 total. 122. 3147 01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:02,560 » 120 total. 122. 3148 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,470 >> And can we just add an s to repair 3149 01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:04,480 » And can we just add an s to repair 3150 01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:06,320 entrances 3151 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,159 so we're clear? It's both the entrances. 3152 01:48:08,159 --> 01:48:09,990 >> Repair entrance. What? 3153 01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:10,000 » Repair entrance. What? 3154 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:11,669 >> We're just going to change put an s on 3155 01:48:11,669 --> 01:48:11,679 » We're just going to change put an s on 3156 01:48:11,679 --> 01:48:14,000 the end of the sentence. So it infers 3157 01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,480 both entrances instead of entrance. 3158 01:48:16,480 --> 01:48:17,030 >> Okay. 3159 01:48:17,030 --> 01:48:17,040 » Okay. 3160 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,270 >> Is I know this has been on public works 3161 01:48:19,270 --> 01:48:19,280 » Is I know this has been on public works 3162 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,400 and engineering's radar and list for 3163 01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,960 three years at least. So I think what 3164 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,400 you're hearing from the council, come up 3165 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,800 with a solution and do it. 3166 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:29,590 >> Just do it. 3167 01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:29,600 » Just do it. 3168 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,629 >> Yes. put on your Nikes and just do it. 3169 01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:32,639 » Yes. put on your Nikes and just do it. 3170 01:48:32,639 --> 01:48:34,950 >> Understood. 3171 01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:34,960 » Understood. 3172 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,590 >> I was going to make a joke a while ago, 3173 01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:37,600 » I was going to make a joke a while ago, 3174 01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,679 but that our projects start from west to 3175 01:48:39,679 --> 01:48:41,360 east. And so that's why Careway is not 3176 01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:42,960 there yet. It's like we're on your 10ear 3177 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:44,080 plan, but 3178 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,390 >> carowway will love that. [laughter] 3179 01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:46,400 » carowway will love that. [laughter] 3180 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:55,270 >> That was a joke. That was that was 3181 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:56,880 » Are we done with the special funds? 3182 01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:57,910 >> Yes. 3183 01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:57,920 » Yes. 3184 01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,990 >> Yes, we are. 3185 01:48:59,990 --> 01:49:00,000 » Yes, we are. 3186 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,040 All right, I propose at uh let's take a 3187 01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,480 five minute break. Uh recess the open 3188 01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:09,600 session at 10:38. We return back in five 3189 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:24,070 minutes. That would be good. 3190 01:49:24,080 --> 02:03:02,950 No, 3191 02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:06,719 Thank you. I call the uh 3192 02:03:06,719 --> 02:03:09,199 this council meeting back into session 3193 02:03:09,199 --> 02:03:13,119 at uh 10:52 a.m. 3194 02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:15,520 All right. Uh thank you for the uh 3195 02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,679 presentations, Marcy. Okay. We're going 3196 02:03:17,679 --> 02:03:20,639 to pick up uh at the end of where we 3197 02:03:20,639 --> 02:03:23,199 left off at the previous workshop and 3198 02:03:23,199 --> 02:03:27,599 that is uh the 3199 02:03:27,599 --> 02:03:29,520 excuse me 3200 02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:31,840 get this turn here 3201 02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:37,199 is the uh capital projects and uh Mr. 3202 02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:40,080 Anderson will weave in and out during 3203 02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:44,080 this, but we'll have water, sewer, 3204 02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:47,119 streets, facilities, and capital 3205 02:03:47,119 --> 02:03:49,679 equipment. That's all under capital 3206 02:03:49,679 --> 02:03:52,480 request. 3207 02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:54,960 Starting with the water, sewer system 3208 02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,920 capital improvements. 3209 02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,560 There have been uh several 3210 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:04,960 uh sheets developed on this. I think the 3211 02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:08,719 one you've got in front of you right now 3212 02:04:08,719 --> 02:04:12,960 uh is called the necessity 3213 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,520 list. Is that correct, Mr. Anderson? 3214 02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:16,470 >> Yes, mayor. That's correct. 3215 02:04:16,470 --> 02:04:16,480 » Yes, mayor. That's correct. 3216 02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:18,709 >> And that's uh for four-year look at 3217 02:04:18,709 --> 02:04:18,719 » And that's uh for four-year look at 3218 02:04:18,719 --> 02:04:19,750 >> that's correct. 3219 02:04:19,750 --> 02:04:19,760 » that's correct. 3220 02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:24,470 >> Okay. Now, I will tell you is uh um 3221 02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:24,480 » Okay. Now, I will tell you is uh um 3222 02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:28,239 Belchiff and Associates submitted a a 3223 02:04:28,239 --> 02:04:31,040 10-year outlook 3224 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:35,840 on water, sewer, and roads. And that 3225 02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:39,840 10-year outlook was a now that included 3226 02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:43,280 everybody's I'll call it wish list. 3227 02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:46,000 And 3228 02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,480 that was 3229 02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,320 at that time something may have changed 3230 02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,960 but it was $18 3231 02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:54,719 million 3232 02:04:54,719 --> 02:04:58,000 over the next 10 years. So that is an 3233 02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:02,000 average of $10.8 million a year starting 3234 02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:05,679 this year. That is just not feasible. 3235 02:05:05,679 --> 02:05:11,760 And uh so I I asked uh uh Belfist 3236 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:17,199 Associates to produce a necessity plan. 3237 02:05:17,199 --> 02:05:19,280 Now I was able to and what we're looking 3238 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:22,880 for is necessity plan over the next 10 3239 02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:26,400 years. What we do have to present to you 3240 02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:28,800 is four years 3241 02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:33,520 and that is uh inclusive of the 26 27 3242 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:35,360 budget year. 3243 02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,719 So, um, Mr. Anderson, if you want to 3244 02:05:38,719 --> 02:05:40,880 take it from there and reference, I 3245 02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:42,480 assume you're going to reference your 3246 02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:46,080 printout that you have before us. 3247 02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,719 Yes, Mayor. Thank you. Um, everybody 3248 02:05:48,719 --> 02:05:52,320 have their 11 by7. We want to start, if 3249 02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:55,199 you don't mind, with the smaller portion 3250 02:05:55,199 --> 02:05:59,840 of projects, uh, water and sewer. 3251 02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:02,149 >> Yes, sir. Five. 3252 02:06:02,149 --> 02:06:02,159 » Yes, sir. Five. 3253 02:06:02,159 --> 02:06:06,390 >> Uh, this would be um 3254 02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:06,400 » Uh, this would be um 3255 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,790 >> three of nine. I'm sorry. Three of nine. 3256 02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:08,800 » three of nine. I'm sorry. Three of nine. 3257 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:10,480 It's turned the wrong way for me. 3258 02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:16,070 >> Here we go. 3259 02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,239 » So, so as the mayor mentioned, we we do 3260 02:06:18,239 --> 02:06:20,400 have a 10-year uh capital improvement 3261 02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,440 plan that we assembled for water and 3262 02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:26,639 sewer projects. Um those documents have 3263 02:06:26,639 --> 02:06:28,400 put been put together in accordance with 3264 02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:31,679 state law um to basically go through and 3265 02:06:31,679 --> 02:06:35,440 allow us to update and amend your uh 3266 02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:39,599 impact fee program. Uh in addition um 3267 02:06:39,599 --> 02:06:43,679 these projects also uh help us identify 3268 02:06:43,679 --> 02:06:45,520 improvements to the system that need to 3269 02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,719 be done oversizing to certain uh 3270 02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:51,440 facilities uh as it relates to 3271 02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:53,040 development. So, one thing I think that 3272 02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:55,760 might help everybody if you could also 3273 02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:59,199 um let's pull out your water system 3274 02:06:59,199 --> 02:07:01,119 10-year capital improvement plan exhibit 3275 02:07:01,119 --> 02:07:02,719 if you don't mind. That would just be 3276 02:07:02,719 --> 02:07:06,400 this portrait exhibit labeled water down 3277 02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:12,629 in the bottom right. 3278 02:07:12,639 --> 02:07:16,639 And you'll note on here that there's um 3279 02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:18,800 several projects highlighted uh 3280 02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,520 approximately 10 of them in yellow on 3281 02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:23,760 the sheet. And those have uh been 3282 02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:26,079 developed through the modeling effort 3283 02:07:26,079 --> 02:07:29,280 and the uh hydraulic calculations that 3284 02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,199 have been performed uh during the master 3285 02:07:31,199 --> 02:07:34,400 planning process based on uh current 3286 02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:38,719 land use designations um as adopted by 3287 02:07:38,719 --> 02:07:41,599 the city. Uh so you'll note that we did 3288 02:07:41,599 --> 02:07:44,159 have some money in this budget to 3289 02:07:44,159 --> 02:07:46,239 potentially go through and update this 3290 02:07:46,239 --> 02:07:49,440 plan. We've we've heard discussions uh 3291 02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,440 this past year about the possibility of 3292 02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,920 a thoroughare plan change. There's been 3293 02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:56,239 discussions about land use discussions 3294 02:07:56,239 --> 02:07:59,679 and changes. And so typically what we do 3295 02:07:59,679 --> 02:08:03,119 as the engineer with the city is we take 3296 02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:05,599 uh assumptions whether those are roadway 3297 02:08:05,599 --> 02:08:07,920 assumptions or land use assumptions and 3298 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:10,400 develop a hydraulic model and that's how 3299 02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,800 we figure out what needs to be done to 3300 02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:15,040 your system so that the water keeps 3301 02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:18,719 flowing so to speak. Uh we meet our TCQ 3302 02:08:18,719 --> 02:08:21,360 minimums and we provide for a reasonable 3303 02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,360 level of fire protection in the city. 3304 02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:26,880 Okay. So, this list um was developed 3305 02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:29,679 initially back in 2021 and we kind of go 3306 02:08:29,679 --> 02:08:30,960 through every year. It's kind of a 3307 02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:32,960 living document, but when we need to 3308 02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:34,560 make wholesale changes, like if you're 3309 02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:36,560 going to change the future land use 3310 02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:40,000 designation from let's say 3311 02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,639 residential to multifamily, single 3312 02:08:42,639 --> 02:08:44,639 family, residential, multif family, 3313 02:08:44,639 --> 02:08:46,639 that's a different type of need from the 3314 02:08:46,639 --> 02:08:49,119 water system. Uh, same thing could be 3315 02:08:49,119 --> 02:08:51,760 said for fire protection for an 3316 02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:53,520 industrial site as opposed to single 3317 02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:56,079 family. So, just wanted to get some of 3318 02:08:56,079 --> 02:08:58,560 that background for you. Um, you'll also 3319 02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:00,079 note that the sheet that you have in 3320 02:09:00,079 --> 02:09:01,599 front of you, the four-year outlook that 3321 02:09:01,599 --> 02:09:04,000 we did, we've got one project on there. 3322 02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,560 Okay. What what that means is we've got 3323 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,320 funding and we're under designer 3324 02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,400 construction with the with the high 3325 02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:12,560 priority projects, the highest priority 3326 02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,880 projects, those being projects one 3327 02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,040 through three. And we've got additional 3328 02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:18,560 projects 3329 02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:22,079 five through 10 um that need to get done 3330 02:09:22,079 --> 02:09:23,840 at some point that are development 3331 02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:26,320 driven. Um 3332 02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:29,520 for instance, project 4, you'll see a a 3333 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,199 meter station improvement off Bonds 3334 02:09:31,199 --> 02:09:34,719 Ranch Road and a transmission line as 3335 02:09:34,719 --> 02:09:37,440 well as a second second tank at the FM 3336 02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:39,840 156 pump station that we're getting 3337 02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:42,639 under construction with. Um, we know 3338 02:09:42,639 --> 02:09:44,079 that we're going to need more water 3339 02:09:44,079 --> 02:09:46,400 coming out of Fort Worth to serve the 3340 02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:48,560 ultimate population of Hasslet. What we 3341 02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:50,000 don't know is we don't know whether 3342 02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:51,840 we're going to get that from meter 3343 02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:53,840 station number three on Bonds Ranch Road 3344 02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:56,400 down at the bottom of the page or if we 3345 02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:59,040 need to pivot and go try to pull more 3346 02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:02,000 water out of meter station 4, uh, which 3347 02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:04,400 is over by the Harmon Road elevated tank 3348 02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,719 and build a second ground storage tank 3349 02:10:06,719 --> 02:10:08,880 over there and improve the pump station. 3350 02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:11,119 So those those discussions are fluid and 3351 02:10:11,119 --> 02:10:13,440 ongoing. And if you'll note over there 3352 02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:15,360 in the remarks column far right hand 3353 02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:17,679 side of my spreadsheet, we say city of 3354 02:10:17,679 --> 02:10:20,239 Fort Worth coordination contract 3355 02:10:20,239 --> 02:10:22,639 amendment may be required. So we can 3356 02:10:22,639 --> 02:10:24,719 only pull water from them where it's 3357 02:10:24,719 --> 02:10:26,239 available. Right? They have a very 3358 02:10:26,239 --> 02:10:29,760 massive system. They may say, "Well, you 3359 02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:31,440 need additional million gallons a day. 3360 02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:32,960 We'd like you to take three quarters of 3361 02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:34,880 it from here and a quarter of it from 3362 02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:39,360 there." So um right now our plan is to 3363 02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:41,360 um take water additional water needed 3364 02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:43,920 from meter station 3 but as we move 3365 02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:45,599 through this next year year and a half 3366 02:10:45,599 --> 02:10:47,440 and we get into the discussions with 3367 02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:49,440 Fort Worth that project may look a 3368 02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:50,480 little different. We may be doing 3369 02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,880 something on Harmon Road. So you know 3370 02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:56,560 we're we're kind of beholden to TR to uh 3371 02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,159 city of Fort Worth as our wholesale 3372 02:10:58,159 --> 02:11:00,239 provider. So we have to be able to 3373 02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:02,320 participate in projects and and do what 3374 02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:04,960 we can to get sewer to them or water 3375 02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:07,760 from them. So the good news is the high 3376 02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:10,719 priority projects are are are funded 3377 02:11:10,719 --> 02:11:12,800 under construction under design uh 3378 02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,920 various stages. We do have uh one 3379 02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:18,719 project that we anticipate needs to get 3380 02:11:18,719 --> 02:11:21,599 started by 2728 3381 02:11:21,599 --> 02:11:24,480 um on the on the front end of things and 3382 02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:27,599 would need to be in place by about 29 3383 02:11:27,599 --> 02:11:30,960 2030. So [clears throat] um I don't know 3384 02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:32,480 if there's any any questions 3385 02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:35,040 specifically on on the water projects 3386 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:36,320 here. 3387 02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:38,470 >> So this three and a half million sorry 3388 02:11:38,470 --> 02:11:38,480 » So this three and a half million sorry 3389 02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:40,719 in 2030 3390 02:11:40,719 --> 02:11:43,520 right am I reading this correctly? Yes. 3391 02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:45,430 >> And that's as our impact fees go down 3392 02:11:45,430 --> 02:11:45,440 » And that's as our impact fees go down 3393 02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:46,960 because we won't be having residential 3394 02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:48,880 buildout anymore. 3395 02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:51,589 >> Am I right, Marcy? 3396 02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:51,599 » Am I right, Marcy? 3397 02:11:51,599 --> 02:11:51,990 >> Yeah. 3398 02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:52,000 » Yeah. 3399 02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:55,350 >> I I would like to qualify. Impact fees 3400 02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:55,360 » I I would like to qualify. Impact fees 3401 02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:57,920 are not solely dependent upon 3402 02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:01,679 residential. Any project that gets built 3403 02:12:01,679 --> 02:12:04,480 that requires water and sewer will 3404 02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:08,480 collect whether it's residential uh 3405 02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:12,239 commercial retail or industrial 3406 02:12:12,239 --> 02:12:14,960 facilities collect impact fees. 3407 02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:17,589 >> Sure. But my point is we don't have an 3408 02:12:17,589 --> 02:12:17,599 » Sure. But my point is we don't have an 3409 02:12:17,599 --> 02:12:19,119 unending supply of money coming in 3410 02:12:19,119 --> 02:12:20,400 because some of those impact fees are 3411 02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:21,280 going to go away. 3412 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:22,470 >> That will Yes. 3413 02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:22,480 » That will Yes. 3414 02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:24,870 >> That's what I'm trying to say. So when 3415 02:12:24,870 --> 02:12:24,880 » That's what I'm trying to say. So when 3416 02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:26,560 I'm I'm not trying to jump on you or be 3417 02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:28,079 rude. Please don't take it that I'm just 3418 02:12:28,079 --> 02:12:31,520 trying trying to say 2930 when we need 3419 02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:33,440 three and a half million. We don't know 3420 02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:34,480 where that three and a half million is 3421 02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,400 going to come from. That's the problem. 3422 02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:38,331 >> We don't um one of the things that 3423 02:12:38,331 --> 02:12:38,341 » We don't um one of the things that 3424 02:12:38,341 --> 02:12:39,280 [clears throat] the mayor asked me to 3425 02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,280 do, you'll see that funding column right 3426 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,560 there on the next to status kind of in 3427 02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:46,639 front of it's cut off. It says impact 3428 02:12:46,639 --> 02:12:47,760 fee eligible 3429 02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:49,830 >> and then there's a funding status and we 3430 02:12:49,830 --> 02:12:49,840 » and then there's a funding status and we 3431 02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:52,400 have if 3432 02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:54,079 right so what we were trying to do there 3433 02:12:54,079 --> 02:12:56,960 is say a potential funding mechanism for 3434 02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:58,880 that. Yes sir. Water sewer water sewer 3435 02:12:58,880 --> 02:12:59,599 rates. 3436 02:12:59,599 --> 02:13:01,030 >> And one of the things I wanted to bring 3437 02:13:01,030 --> 02:13:01,040 » And one of the things I wanted to bring 3438 02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:03,840 up and we we'll get more into this as we 3439 02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,800 reconvene with the CIA and back into our 3440 02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,280 discussions on the impact fee. Um 3441 02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:12,400 Hasslet's really missed the the 3442 02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:15,440 opportunity to capture the the the water 3443 02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:17,119 and sewer impact fees based on 3444 02:13:17,119 --> 02:13:19,199 residential development. The mayor spoke 3445 02:13:19,199 --> 02:13:20,719 to that. You can look at the land use 3446 02:13:20,719 --> 02:13:23,040 plan and see that there's very limited 3447 02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:24,800 potential future single family 3448 02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:27,760 residential growth in the city. Um there 3449 02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:30,560 is uh quite quite a bit more potential 3450 02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:33,199 for industrial commercial type growth in 3451 02:13:33,199 --> 02:13:35,280 the city. One of the things that we'll 3452 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:37,280 need to look at for you all moving 3453 02:13:37,280 --> 02:13:40,800 forward is the potential that the impact 3454 02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:42,719 fees. You may want to do away with your 3455 02:13:42,719 --> 02:13:45,760 impact fees. And as a project comes in, 3456 02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:48,000 you look at the needs of the system and 3457 02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:51,280 you negotiate or help the uh particular 3458 02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:53,760 development come in and pay for a 3459 02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:55,199 certain portion of some of these 3460 02:13:55,199 --> 02:13:57,920 projects because an impact fee is 3461 02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:00,000 basically we take all these these 3462 02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:02,239 projects and I'm just I'm simplifying 3463 02:14:02,239 --> 02:14:04,560 this here. take all these 10 projects, 3464 02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:06,639 they add up to hund00 million. We cut it 3465 02:14:06,639 --> 02:14:08,480 in half because we have to give them 50% 3466 02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,960 credit, that being the developer, and 3467 02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:12,960 then we're charging 50 million or we're 3468 02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:15,920 trying to recoup $50 million over that 3469 02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:18,239 expected growth during this next 10-year 3470 02:14:18,239 --> 02:14:20,320 planning period. Well, if we don't 3471 02:14:20,320 --> 02:14:22,719 anticipate much residential growth, that 3472 02:14:22,719 --> 02:14:25,040 number becomes extremely high, right? 3473 02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:27,920 Instead of $2,000 per lot, it could be 3474 02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:30,239 $47,000 if you're trying to pay for 3475 02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:32,239 everything with impact fees. So the 3476 02:14:32,239 --> 02:14:35,440 other option is to work with development 3477 02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:38,480 as they come in and get things built on 3478 02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:40,880 an asneeded basis with a particular 3479 02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:44,079 project. A great example of this is the 3480 02:14:44,079 --> 02:14:46,239 Harmon Road Blue Mountain intersection 3481 02:14:46,239 --> 02:14:48,320 for the for the Ironwood project. Now 3482 02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:49,920 that's a street project, but it'll work 3483 02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:52,000 for this uh example that I'm going to 3484 02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:55,280 give you. uh your your ordinance says 3485 02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:58,000 they have to build their prorat a share 3486 02:14:58,000 --> 02:14:59,760 of whatever is necessary for the 3487 02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:03,119 adjacent roadway. We negotiated with the 3488 02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:04,719 developer to come in and reconstruct 3489 02:15:04,719 --> 02:15:07,199 that entire intersection, right? As part 3490 02:15:07,199 --> 02:15:09,360 of the pre-annexation deal that was 3491 02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:12,159 negotiated with the developer. So that 3492 02:15:12,159 --> 02:15:14,480 same type of concept can and probably 3493 02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:16,960 should be applied to future water and 3494 02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:18,400 sewer projects. And one of the things 3495 02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:20,560 that we're trying to move forward with 3496 02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:23,840 as we reconvene with the with the CIA 3497 02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:25,840 and and all the laws have changed and 3498 02:15:25,840 --> 02:15:27,679 it's it's getting harder and harder for 3499 02:15:27,679 --> 02:15:30,000 cities to pay for things with impact 3500 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,800 fees is where this is going. And so I 3501 02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:34,960 think one of the things that we probably 3502 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:36,960 should look at in conjunction with any 3503 02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:38,560 changes to the Thoroughare plan or the 3504 02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:41,040 land use plan is a wholesale look and 3505 02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:44,000 discussion about how these projects may 3506 02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:45,679 be may be funded in the future because 3507 02:15:45,679 --> 02:15:47,040 you're right, the impact fees are going 3508 02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:49,920 down. The impact fees um weren't high 3509 02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:51,840 enough to begin with and a lot of those 3510 02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:53,920 impact fees as you can see going through 3511 02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:56,320 the records here have been rebated or 3512 02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:58,320 credited back. Right? So you're you're 3513 02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:00,560 kind of you're running out of you're 3514 02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:02,239 running out of those impact fees to pay 3515 02:16:02,239 --> 02:16:03,679 for future improvements. 3516 02:16:03,679 --> 02:16:06,310 >> The only as I'm going to add to that 3517 02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:06,320 » The only as I'm going to add to that 3518 02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:09,520 well one uh current legislation or the 3519 02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:14,320 legislation on that um 3520 02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:16,079 infrastructure reimbursement by 3521 02:16:16,079 --> 02:16:20,400 developers has to be studied. Uh the uh 3522 02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:24,000 impact fee is 3523 02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:28,239 for the most part has been used to 3524 02:16:28,239 --> 02:16:31,679 when these water and sewer lines were 3525 02:16:31,679 --> 02:16:33,519 upgraded 3526 02:16:33,519 --> 02:16:37,679 and anticipation of development coming 3527 02:16:37,679 --> 02:16:42,880 the impact fee. legislation allowed 3528 02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:45,280 the municipality to charge that 3529 02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:48,000 development a certain amount of money. 3530 02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:50,080 It was pre-built. Now you're going to 3531 02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:52,639 pay your fair share of that line. That's 3532 02:16:52,639 --> 02:16:54,719 one aspect of it. But also the impact 3533 02:16:54,719 --> 02:17:00,000 fee is collected to build a requirement 3534 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:03,599 of a water and sewer line to serve a 3535 02:17:03,599 --> 02:17:06,080 particular development. 3536 02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:11,429 The only um 3537 02:17:11,439 --> 02:17:14,000 now what we do charge is maximum allowed 3538 02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:16,960 by law. 3539 02:17:16,960 --> 02:17:20,790 We do do that. 3540 02:17:20,800 --> 02:17:23,439 But the negotiation 3541 02:17:23,439 --> 02:17:26,880 u I will that's that's good if it works 3542 02:17:26,880 --> 02:17:29,359 but that's a casebyase basis. We'll have 3543 02:17:29,359 --> 02:17:34,639 to study that uh explicitly and see um 3544 02:17:34,639 --> 02:17:38,080 if that is viable. The project that uh 3545 02:17:38,080 --> 02:17:42,000 Mr. Anderson spoke of is that was a very 3546 02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:44,399 unique case. 3547 02:17:44,399 --> 02:17:49,760 Developer wanted that project that bad. 3548 02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:53,760 He goes, "Okay, I'll build the road." 3549 02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:57,679 And um it worked out well. And he was in 3550 02:17:57,679 --> 02:17:59,439 fact he was rather generous, very 3551 02:17:59,439 --> 02:18:02,399 generous in doing so. That's a $4 3552 02:18:02,399 --> 02:18:05,519 million piece of roadway he's building 3553 02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:09,359 at his total cost. Anyway, the the but 3554 02:18:09,359 --> 02:18:11,120 yes, these are conversations that we 3555 02:18:11,120 --> 02:18:14,000 have to have, but we have to uh exercise 3556 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,719 sound judgment. Right now, we got the uh 3557 02:18:16,719 --> 02:18:19,040 uh legislation, the state law behind us 3558 02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:22,240 with regard to impact fees. 3559 02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:23,830 >> Go ahead. 3560 02:18:23,830 --> 02:18:23,840 » Go ahead. 3561 02:18:23,840 --> 02:18:27,110 >> I think we just need to plan because if, 3562 02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:27,120 » I think we just need to plan because if, 3563 02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:28,639 as you said, our impact fees are going 3564 02:18:28,639 --> 02:18:30,960 down and our impact needs are still 3565 02:18:30,960 --> 02:18:31,920 going to be there and we're going to 3566 02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:33,760 need this is just one project three and 3567 02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:36,319 a half million in four years from now. 3568 02:18:36,319 --> 02:18:37,599 So, this is what I was trying to get to 3569 02:18:37,599 --> 02:18:39,359 earlier about we need to have a 5year 3570 02:18:39,359 --> 02:18:40,960 lookout or a 10ear lookout or whatever 3571 02:18:40,960 --> 02:18:43,519 of all of this because our funding 3572 02:18:43,519 --> 02:18:45,120 sources are going to change and our 3573 02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:47,040 needs are going to go up and we're going 3574 02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,200 to have projects to do and we can't just 3575 02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:51,040 all of a sudden say, "Oh, well, we need 3576 02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:52,719 a $100 million bond." I mean, that 3577 02:18:52,719 --> 02:18:54,880 doesn't work. So we just need to start 3578 02:18:54,880 --> 02:18:56,559 looking at you know are there ways that 3579 02:18:56,559 --> 02:19:00,399 we can plan for the future that makes it 3580 02:19:00,399 --> 02:19:02,639 not such extremes 3581 02:19:02,639 --> 02:19:05,270 >> and we are just to give you insight on 3582 02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:05,280 » and we are just to give you insight on 3583 02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:08,399 that Marcy and I have uh had over the 3584 02:19:08,399 --> 02:19:10,960 many many months have discussions what 3585 02:19:10,960 --> 02:19:14,639 we're doing is assembling these I'll 3586 02:19:14,639 --> 02:19:19,200 call it the 10-year necessity plans 3587 02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:22,479 on water sewer roads and capital 3588 02:19:22,479 --> 02:19:25,120 equipment We got scheduled departments 3589 02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:27,760 have scheduled capital equipment that's 3590 02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:30,080 coming. We know when it's coming and 3591 02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:32,559 that is uh runs into the millions of 3592 02:19:32,559 --> 02:19:37,359 dollars and but to put that in front of 3593 02:19:37,359 --> 02:19:40,719 u our um 3594 02:19:40,719 --> 02:19:42,319 broker 3595 02:19:42,319 --> 02:19:43,920 but what do we call him? 3596 02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:47,110 >> They're financial advisor hilltop. 3597 02:19:47,110 --> 02:19:47,120 » They're financial advisor hilltop. 3598 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:50,880 Hilltop and look at now that's all 3599 02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:54,240 pointed towards bonds. But how can we 3600 02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:58,319 structure that over the years 3601 02:19:58,319 --> 02:20:01,760 and keep the tax rate somewhat 3602 02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:05,030 consistent 3603 02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:08,880 and that would be one piece of that will 3604 02:20:08,880 --> 02:20:12,960 go into a plan. But that yes, bonds uh 3605 02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:16,640 you know I think it was 22 that we took 3606 02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:21,760 uh uh bond out $17 million and the great 3607 02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:24,319 majority of that was all water and sewer 3608 02:20:24,319 --> 02:20:27,840 every bit of it. Uh so but that project 3609 02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:30,319 is addressing uh projects that we're 3610 02:20:30,319 --> 02:20:33,600 building now. 3611 02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:35,990 >> So 3612 02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:36,000 » So 3613 02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:36,630 >> Mayor, 3614 02:20:36,630 --> 02:20:36,640 » Mayor, 3615 02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:39,429 >> yes, a plan is needed. Yes, ma'am. Um, I 3616 02:20:39,429 --> 02:20:39,439 » yes, a plan is needed. Yes, ma'am. Um, I 3617 02:20:39,439 --> 02:20:41,680 have a few questions. Um, so you were, 3618 02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:44,080 it shows on here four, which I love how 3619 02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:45,200 it all connects now that I'm 3620 02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:47,120 understanding your charts. One, two, 3621 02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:49,680 three are in process this year. Is that 3622 02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:51,439 my understanding? 3623 02:20:51,439 --> 02:20:53,110 >> They're either completed or they're 3624 02:20:53,110 --> 02:20:53,120 » They're either completed or they're 3625 02:20:53,120 --> 02:20:56,560 funded and under construction or design. 3626 02:20:56,560 --> 02:21:00,080 So, we were just trying to um basically 3627 02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:03,760 capture what was not currently funded, 3628 02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:06,319 but identified as a need, if that makes 3629 02:21:06,319 --> 02:21:06,800 sense. 3630 02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:08,790 >> Got it. I would still love to see five 3631 02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:08,800 » Got it. I would still love to see five 3632 02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:10,720 through 10 just so we can see the pro 3633 02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:12,319 projection. I I don't want information 3634 02:21:12,319 --> 02:21:13,840 hidden from me so I could better 3635 02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:15,439 understand it. I'd just rather have it 3636 02:21:15,439 --> 02:21:21,439 highlighted. Um but for um 3637 02:21:21,439 --> 02:21:24,000 number five, are are we even though 3638 02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:25,680 we're not looking at starting these 3639 02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:28,720 right now, we know this is incoming 3640 02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:30,319 items that we have to do to keep our 3641 02:21:30,319 --> 02:21:31,920 city running. Like number five, are we 3642 02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:33,520 working on grants for that? because 3643 02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:36,880 grants I mean the water tank 3644 02:21:36,880 --> 02:21:39,200 rehabilitation I mean we could easily 3645 02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:42,560 well not we have a good shot at a grant 3646 02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:46,399 um that could cover it from um I always 3647 02:21:46,399 --> 02:21:48,800 get the acronymics up TWWDB grants 3648 02:21:48,800 --> 02:21:50,160 they're pretty common especially for 3649 02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:52,319 small cities like us are we looking into 3650 02:21:52,319 --> 02:21:54,319 those items because th they can cover up 3651 02:21:54,319 --> 02:21:57,359 to 100% of the water tower rehab 3652 02:21:57,359 --> 02:22:00,309 >> yeah we've we've got um we we haven't 3653 02:22:00,309 --> 02:22:00,319 » yeah we've we've got um we we haven't 3654 02:22:00,319 --> 02:22:03,200 looked into a grant for the rehab there 3655 02:22:03,200 --> 02:22:06,560 funding that was part of the 2022 3656 02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:09,439 issuance um specifically for that 3657 02:22:09,439 --> 02:22:11,920 project. So, I don't know if that may or 3658 02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:14,800 may or may not create a problem, but um 3659 02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:17,439 we are aware of the the different um 3660 02:22:17,439 --> 02:22:23,120 TWWDB grants and um we we've got um two 3661 02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:24,880 of those that we're looking at and 3662 02:22:24,880 --> 02:22:27,120 trying to uh work in on the drainage 3663 02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:32,560 side um this fall, but um we don't have 3664 02:22:32,560 --> 02:22:35,600 anything like teed up and ready to go 3665 02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:38,080 for that particular project, 3666 02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:40,309 >> but we do have the uh 3667 02:22:40,309 --> 02:22:40,319 » but we do have the uh 3668 02:22:40,319 --> 02:22:43,120 rehabilitation of that tank funded. 3669 02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:43,590 >> Yes, sir. 3670 02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:43,600 » Yes, sir. 3671 02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:44,630 >> Fully funded. 3672 02:22:44,630 --> 02:22:44,640 » Fully funded. 3673 02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:45,030 >> Yes. 3674 02:22:45,030 --> 02:22:45,040 » Yes. 3675 02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:46,550 >> Yes. 3676 02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:46,560 » Yes. 3677 02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:48,230 >> Through that through the bond that we 3678 02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:48,240 » Through that through the bond that we 3679 02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:49,359 took out in 22. 3680 02:22:49,359 --> 02:22:52,230 >> Yeah. It was 750,000 is what we estimate 3681 02:22:52,230 --> 02:22:52,240 » Yeah. It was 750,000 is what we estimate 3682 02:22:52,240 --> 02:22:55,920 to paint that tank 3683 02:22:55,920 --> 02:22:58,710 >> and but back in 2022. 3684 02:22:58,710 --> 02:22:58,720 » and but back in 2022. 3685 02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:01,270 >> Yeah. That I I think it was a healthy it 3686 02:23:01,270 --> 02:23:01,280 » Yeah. That I I think it was a healthy it 3687 02:23:01,280 --> 02:23:02,800 was a healthy budget that was put 3688 02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:04,880 together in 22. 3689 02:23:04,880 --> 02:23:07,120 So, if we were to apply for a grant and 3690 02:23:07,120 --> 02:23:08,880 get it, there's no way for us to 3691 02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:10,560 reimburse the bond. Wouldn't it be 3692 02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:12,560 better for us to get a free grant then? 3693 02:23:12,560 --> 02:23:13,920 And this is part of the reason why you 3694 02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:15,200 got to be careful when you take bonds 3695 02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:16,000 when you're not ready. 3696 02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:17,429 >> I'd have to consult, we'd have to 3697 02:23:17,429 --> 02:23:17,439 » I'd have to consult, we'd have to 3698 02:23:17,439 --> 02:23:21,040 consult with Hill uh Hilltop and Marcy 3699 02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:21,680 and I. 3700 02:23:21,680 --> 02:23:23,270 >> But I think this is a really see how 3701 02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:23,280 » But I think this is a really see how 3702 02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:24,000 that would work. 3703 02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,910 >> Good example of why you don't pre-take a 3704 02:23:25,910 --> 02:23:25,920 » Good example of why you don't pre-take a 3705 02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:28,880 bond before you're ready to move 3706 02:23:28,880 --> 02:23:32,800 into the active construction or phase of 3707 02:23:32,800 --> 02:23:34,080 it. Because I mean this could 3708 02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:38,399 potentially cost us a 100% grant where 3709 02:23:38,399 --> 02:23:39,600 the city wouldn't have had to pay 3710 02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:40,479 anything. 3711 02:23:40,479 --> 02:23:41,590 >> Make note of that. 3712 02:23:41,590 --> 02:23:41,600 » Make note of that. 3713 02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:44,230 >> Why did we pre like why did we move 3714 02:23:44,230 --> 02:23:44,240 » Why did we pre like why did we move 3715 02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:45,520 forward with the bond so early for 3716 02:23:45,520 --> 02:23:47,200 something we're not even working on 3717 02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:48,560 actively? 3718 02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:50,150 >> We had it planned, 3719 02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:50,160 » We had it planned, 3720 02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:51,590 >> but we're not doing it right now. 3721 02:23:51,590 --> 02:23:51,600 » but we're not doing it right now. 3722 02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:53,190 >> We had it planned. Engineering, you want 3723 02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:53,200 » We had it planned. Engineering, you want 3724 02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:55,040 to address that? 3725 02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:57,510 >> So the the rehab of that tank could not 3726 02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:57,520 » So the the rehab of that tank could not 3727 02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,760 occur until the pump station is up up 3728 02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:02,880 and running. Uh, one of the things that 3729 02:24:02,880 --> 02:24:05,280 was asked of engineering and public 3730 02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:06,880 works back when the bond was 3731 02:24:06,880 --> 02:24:10,720 contemplated was um, in addition to the 3732 02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:12,720 hydraulic improvements and storage 3733 02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:15,040 improvements, pumping, were there any 3734 02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:18,560 uh, known um, 3735 02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:22,319 uh, maintenance type projects? And that 3736 02:24:22,319 --> 02:24:24,399 was one of them that was determined to 3737 02:24:24,399 --> 02:24:26,080 be necessary due to the tank 3738 02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:28,960 inspections. 3739 02:24:28,960 --> 02:24:31,590 >> Okay. If we pull a bond, it just seems 3740 02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:31,600 » Okay. If we pull a bond, it just seems 3741 02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:34,240 like we have a responsibility at that 3742 02:24:34,240 --> 02:24:35,840 point to ensure that those projects are 3743 02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:39,359 moving forward and not re prioritizing 3744 02:24:39,359 --> 02:24:41,600 without that consideration. It's just a 3745 02:24:41,600 --> 02:24:43,520 little interesting that we pulled a bond 3746 02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:46,160 for back in 2022. 3747 02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:48,880 Did we even apply for grants then? 3748 02:24:48,880 --> 02:24:49,830 >> A grant? 3749 02:24:49,830 --> 02:24:49,840 » A grant? 3750 02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:50,150 >> Yes. 3751 02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:50,160 » Yes. 3752 02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:51,510 >> No, I didn't apply for grant. 3753 02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:51,520 » No, I didn't apply for grant. 3754 02:24:51,520 --> 02:24:53,349 >> Why would we not apply for grants? 3755 02:24:53,349 --> 02:24:53,359 » Why would we not apply for grants? 3756 02:24:53,359 --> 02:24:57,750 >> I apply for grants that I'm aware of. 3757 02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:57,760 » I apply for grants that I'm aware of. 3758 02:24:57,760 --> 02:25:00,240 Were you aware of it? Yes. 3759 02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:01,670 >> In 22 3760 02:25:01,670 --> 02:25:01,680 » In 22 3761 02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:04,150 >> I'm aware of grants for water towers 3762 02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:04,160 » I'm aware of grants for water towers 3763 02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:06,070 >> for in 22 you were 3764 02:25:06,070 --> 02:25:06,080 » for in 22 you were 3765 02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:07,590 >> okay let's get back on track and not get 3766 02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:07,600 » okay let's get back on track and not get 3767 02:25:07,600 --> 02:25:10,240 into arguments please I don't know 3768 02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:13,270 >> understood you know is uh a lot of this 3769 02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:13,280 » understood you know is uh a lot of this 3770 02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:15,840 is planning the you know there are some 3771 02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:19,280 projects that we have are dependent upon 3772 02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:26,000 others the this new uh uh $5.6 6 million 3773 02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:28,960 pump station project we're doing is key 3774 02:25:28,960 --> 02:25:31,280 to other projects and we cannot pursue 3775 02:25:31,280 --> 02:25:33,920 until that's done. That pump station 3776 02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:35,760 project has drugged out longer than what 3777 02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:40,960 we expected. It just has and so we can't 3778 02:25:40,960 --> 02:25:44,560 do the water tower rehabilitation till 3779 02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:47,120 that project's online because that 3780 02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:50,160 project is getting a new 1 million 3781 02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:53,200 gallon ground storage tank. We have to 3782 02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:55,439 have the storage capacity to take the 3783 02:25:55,439 --> 02:25:56,560 tower offline. 3784 02:25:56,560 --> 02:25:57,190 >> I understand. 3785 02:25:57,190 --> 02:25:57,200 » I understand. 3786 02:25:57,200 --> 02:26:02,070 >> So there there are things that 3787 02:26:02,080 --> 02:26:04,640 are dependent upon the other. Some 3788 02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:07,040 things end up moving slower than what we 3789 02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:07,760 expected. 3790 02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:08,870 >> I do understand that. 3791 02:26:08,870 --> 02:26:08,880 » I do understand that. 3792 02:26:08,880 --> 02:26:11,190 >> Okay. Well, then that's why it wasn't 3793 02:26:11,190 --> 02:26:11,200 » Okay. Well, then that's why it wasn't 3794 02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,200 intentionally let's take let's borrow 3795 02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:16,479 money uh and we consciously know we're 3796 02:26:16,479 --> 02:26:18,319 going to wait four years before we ever 3797 02:26:18,319 --> 02:26:21,040 spend any of it. No, that that is not 3798 02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:22,960 the thought process. Yes, Mr. Mayor. 3799 02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:23,510 >> Yes. 3800 02:26:23,510 --> 02:26:23,520 » Yes. 3801 02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:24,950 >> None of that has anything to do with her 3802 02:26:24,950 --> 02:26:24,960 » None of that has anything to do with her 3803 02:26:24,960 --> 02:26:26,240 fundamental question. 3804 02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:27,910 >> Her fundamental her fundamental question 3805 02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:27,920 » Her fundamental her fundamental question 3806 02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:31,040 is why May I finish speaking, please? 3807 02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:32,800 You recognize me and I'm not done 3808 02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:33,359 speaking 3809 02:26:33,359 --> 02:26:35,270 >> before we're ready to do anything. 3810 02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:35,280 » before we're ready to do anything. 3811 02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:36,550 >> You recognized me and I wasn't done 3812 02:26:36,550 --> 02:26:36,560 » You recognized me and I wasn't done 3813 02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:37,760 speaking. 3814 02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:40,309 >> Anyway, we go ahead please. 3815 02:26:40,309 --> 02:26:40,319 » Anyway, we go ahead please. 3816 02:26:40,319 --> 02:26:43,030 >> Thank you. You're all that big 3817 02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:43,040 » Thank you. You're all that big 3818 02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:44,560 discussion that big explanation had 3819 02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:45,520 nothing to do with her fundamental 3820 02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:48,080 question. Her fundamental question was 3821 02:26:48,080 --> 02:26:50,399 why didn't we try for bonds before we 3822 02:26:50,399 --> 02:26:52,080 went for I mean for grants before we 3823 02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:53,520 went for a bond. That's the fundamental 3824 02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:55,439 question. All of the things you said is 3825 02:26:55,439 --> 02:26:57,040 correct. We have to do this before that. 3826 02:26:57,040 --> 02:26:57,429 >> Yeah. 3827 02:26:57,429 --> 02:26:57,439 » Yeah. 3828 02:26:57,439 --> 02:26:58,870 >> That doesn't speak to her fundamental 3829 02:26:58,870 --> 02:26:58,880 » That doesn't speak to her fundamental 3830 02:26:58,880 --> 02:26:59,280 question. 3831 02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:01,632 >> The the well I I thought I answered 3832 02:27:01,632 --> 02:27:01,642 » The the well I I thought I answered 3833 02:27:01,642 --> 02:27:03,280 [clears throat] that. No one in the 3834 02:27:03,280 --> 02:27:07,680 city, no one public works engineering 3835 02:27:07,680 --> 02:27:10,640 partners with engineering was aware of 3836 02:27:10,640 --> 02:27:15,920 any grants for tank rehabilitation. 3837 02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:20,790 No one was aware of it. 3838 02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:23,760 » That's a simple answer. 3839 02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:25,429 >> Okay. 3840 02:27:25,429 --> 02:27:25,439 » Okay. 3841 02:27:25,439 --> 02:27:29,670 >> Okay. Thank you. Can we move on, please? 3842 02:27:29,670 --> 02:27:29,680 » Okay. Thank you. Can we move on, please? 3843 02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:34,070 Anything 3844 02:27:34,080 --> 02:27:39,750 else on water capital? 3845 02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:42,560 » Um, Mike, I just wanted to point out for 3846 02:27:42,560 --> 02:27:46,560 them on or you're you're moving to sewer 3847 02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:47,280 next. 3848 02:27:47,280 --> 02:27:48,469 >> Go ahead, Marcy. 3849 02:27:48,469 --> 02:27:48,479 » Go ahead, Marcy. 3850 02:27:48,479 --> 02:27:50,950 >> Okay. Um, I was just going to point out 3851 02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:50,960 » Okay. Um, I was just going to point out 3852 02:27:50,960 --> 02:27:56,160 on page 283 in the water capital 3853 02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:57,120 um 3854 02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:00,150 >> 283 3855 02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:01,920 in the book 3856 02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:05,590 >> 283. Um, just to show that the water 3857 02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:05,600 » 283. Um, just to show that the water 3858 02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:08,800 rate study, the items on Mike's sheet 3859 02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:12,950 from 2627, 3860 02:28:12,960 --> 02:28:16,399 the water rate study for 10,000 and the 3861 02:28:16,399 --> 02:28:19,200 sewer rate study for 10,000. 3862 02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:22,800 Those are listed um 3863 02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:25,760 on I I gave you the wrong sheet. I'm 3864 02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:29,910 sorry. Let's see. 3865 02:28:29,920 --> 02:28:40,790 I moved on to my head. 3866 02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:44,319 Page 163. I'm sorry. 3867 02:28:44,319 --> 02:28:45,270 >> 163. 3868 02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:45,280 » 163. 3869 02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:47,670 >> Yes. 3870 02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:47,680 » Yes. 3871 02:28:47,680 --> 02:28:50,640 So, $20,000 for water and sewer rate 3872 02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:52,880 study is in there 3873 02:28:52,880 --> 02:28:58,000 on Mike's project S5 in the sewer. 3874 02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:00,479 165,000 3875 02:29:00,479 --> 02:29:04,160 um for design and engineering is funded 3876 02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:10,080 on that page. And then his project S6 3877 02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:12,479 um 130,000 3878 02:29:12,479 --> 02:29:15,200 for design and engineering 3879 02:29:15,200 --> 02:29:17,120 is funded. 3880 02:29:17,120 --> 02:29:20,000 Um just just so you know where those 3881 02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:23,439 are. The development participation 3882 02:29:23,439 --> 02:29:27,760 um is also funded 3883 02:29:27,760 --> 02:29:31,200 um in the water fund 3884 02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:33,600 and 3885 02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:37,600 the INI reduction is on this page 3886 02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:41,349 100,000 3887 02:29:41,359 --> 02:29:45,120 um develop developer participation is 3888 02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:50,720 combined 515 for both water and sewer is 3889 02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:54,479 that um 103,000. 3890 02:29:54,479 --> 02:29:58,080 So everything that's under his 2627 3891 02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:00,720 column on this page is 3892 02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:02,710 >> funded right there. 3893 02:30:02,710 --> 02:30:02,720 » funded right there. 3894 02:30:02,720 --> 02:30:05,510 >> And I'm sorry, mayor, I do have a just a 3895 02:30:05,510 --> 02:30:05,520 » And I'm sorry, mayor, I do have a just a 3896 02:30:05,520 --> 02:30:08,960 few more small questions. Um to go back, 3897 02:30:08,960 --> 02:30:12,160 Mike, you said that we have 750,000. 3898 02:30:12,160 --> 02:30:14,080 Have we scheduled an inspection to get 3899 02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:18,960 an estimate of really the condition in 3900 02:30:18,960 --> 02:30:20,150 >> Yeah. 3901 02:30:20,150 --> 02:30:20,160 » Yeah. 3902 02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:21,760 When's your last when was your last 3903 02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:23,200 Harmon inspection? 3904 02:30:23,200 --> 02:30:24,710 >> Uh, usually it's right around the o 3905 02:30:24,710 --> 02:30:24,720 » Uh, usually it's right around the o 3906 02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:26,800 October. There's another one already 3907 02:30:26,800 --> 02:30:28,720 scheduled. It's going to happen in uh 3908 02:30:28,720 --> 02:30:30,240 November this year, but we do an annual 3909 02:30:30,240 --> 02:30:33,359 inspection by dive and uh basically 3910 02:30:33,359 --> 02:30:35,760 there's no the coating is long past 3911 02:30:35,760 --> 02:30:37,200 needing to be replaced. There's nothing 3912 02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:39,920 that's critical in that tank that's but 3913 02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:41,520 you don't want to get to a level that's 3914 02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:44,080 ever critical. So there is starting to 3915 02:30:44,080 --> 02:30:46,080 be rust and stuff showing on the outside 3916 02:30:46,080 --> 02:30:48,319 of it on the tank. On the inside, there 3917 02:30:48,319 --> 02:30:50,479 is expected blistering, but like there's 3918 02:30:50,479 --> 02:30:53,280 no major 3919 02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:56,560 flaw in it, but it is overdue and should 3920 02:30:56,560 --> 02:30:58,399 be recoded. That's the main need for 3921 02:30:58,399 --> 02:30:59,359 that tank. 3922 02:30:59,359 --> 02:31:01,670 >> So, I'm just going to highly suggest 3923 02:31:01,670 --> 02:31:01,680 » So, I'm just going to highly suggest 3924 02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:04,640 that we reook at our estimate because 3925 02:31:04,640 --> 02:31:07,680 750,000 I I would put money on it is not 3926 02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:11,200 correct. Um, if from what he's saying 3927 02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:14,080 with the rust and coating and also if 3928 02:31:14,080 --> 02:31:17,760 we're we're repainting the outside, 3929 02:31:17,760 --> 02:31:19,280 I think it's a lot higher than you think 3930 02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:21,439 right now. So, I would just suggest a 3931 02:31:21,439 --> 02:31:23,920 full estimate done by the city to 3932 02:31:23,920 --> 02:31:25,120 prepare for that because it's a pretty 3933 02:31:25,120 --> 02:31:27,200 significant expense, especially if we 3934 02:31:27,200 --> 02:31:28,560 already have a bond and we're depending 3935 02:31:28,560 --> 02:31:31,040 on the money from the bond. If it is 3936 02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:32,479 going to cost more, maybe we can apply 3937 02:31:32,479 --> 02:31:34,560 for a grant for partial and get some 3938 02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:37,680 assistance. So, since it's the next item 3939 02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:39,200 on the priority list, I'm just 3940 02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:40,720 suggesting we start looking at it this 3941 02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:43,040 year. And I followed that up with a 3942 02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:44,560 question of if we were to do that, how 3943 02:31:44,560 --> 02:31:46,960 much do you guys think you would need to 3944 02:31:46,960 --> 02:31:48,960 be on the when they do the dive, do they 3945 02:31:48,960 --> 02:31:51,120 give you a workup of the estimate? 3946 02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:52,720 When's the last time we had that done? 3947 02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:55,030 >> So, when we the divers, what they look 3948 02:31:55,030 --> 02:31:55,040 » So, when we the divers, what they look 3949 02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:57,920 at is they basically look at blistering 3950 02:31:57,920 --> 02:32:00,399 in the co c coatings. They look for any 3951 02:32:00,399 --> 02:32:02,479 like major defect that you just can't 3952 02:32:02,479 --> 02:32:05,520 visually see from the water line that. 3953 02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:07,840 So, we're not they're not giving us 3954 02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:11,280 anything beyond it needs to be recoded. 3955 02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:13,120 So, that our assumption is that tank 3956 02:32:13,120 --> 02:32:15,920 will need to be drained, sandlasted, and 3957 02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:18,000 recoded the same as it would before. And 3958 02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:20,640 I believe we had a pretty good number 3959 02:32:20,640 --> 02:32:23,120 recently on that of what they expected 3960 02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:26,720 that to be. I thought that that 750 was 3961 02:32:26,720 --> 02:32:28,319 thought to be pretty good, but we can we 3962 02:32:28,319 --> 02:32:33,349 can look back at that and see. 3963 02:32:33,359 --> 02:32:35,439 » And I I'm not speaking for that company 3964 02:32:35,439 --> 02:32:37,040 or my husband, but this is what my 3965 02:32:37,040 --> 02:32:39,120 husband does. He does water towers and 3966 02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:41,600 he's saying he suggests that you guys 3967 02:32:41,600 --> 02:32:43,359 look into this because the budget you're 3968 02:32:43,359 --> 02:32:46,160 stating 3969 02:32:46,160 --> 02:32:47,750 >> I'm just suggesting you look into it and 3970 02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:47,760 » I'm just suggesting you look into it and 3971 02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:48,960 that's where my information and 3972 02:32:48,960 --> 02:32:50,560 knowledge is coming from. this is what 3973 02:32:50,560 --> 02:32:53,040 he does and he's just suggesting you 3974 02:32:53,040 --> 02:32:54,080 take another look. 3975 02:32:54,080 --> 02:32:54,870 >> We can do that. 3976 02:32:54,870 --> 02:32:54,880 » We can do that. 3977 02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:55,670 >> That's all I'm saying. 3978 02:32:55,670 --> 02:32:55,680 » That's all I'm saying. 3979 02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:56,389 >> Oh, that's fine. 3980 02:32:56,389 --> 02:32:56,399 » Oh, that's fine. 3981 02:32:56,399 --> 02:32:59,030 >> Because I am I am not um this is not 3982 02:32:59,030 --> 02:32:59,040 » Because I am I am not um this is not 3983 02:32:59,040 --> 02:33:00,399 where my knowledge comes from, but I 3984 02:33:00,399 --> 02:33:01,840 wanted you to understand why I'm 3985 02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:02,560 questioning it. 3986 02:33:02,560 --> 02:33:05,510 >> No, I understand. We've we've my office 3987 02:33:05,510 --> 02:33:05,520 » No, I understand. We've we've my office 3988 02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:07,120 has done three of these in the last 3989 02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:10,160 three years. The latest one we did uh we 3990 02:33:10,160 --> 02:33:12,640 did two over in Shady Shores and Lake 3991 02:33:12,640 --> 02:33:14,640 Dallas, and they were about a half a 3992 02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:17,120 million each. They were the uh one was a 3993 02:33:17,120 --> 02:33:19,040 legged style tank. 3994 02:33:19,040 --> 02:33:21,030 >> The other one was a spheroid like the 3995 02:33:21,030 --> 02:33:21,040 » The other one was a spheroid like the 3996 02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:22,240 golf ball T. 3997 02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:24,710 >> So quite a bit more prep and work and 3998 02:33:24,710 --> 02:33:24,720 » So quite a bit more prep and work and 3999 02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:28,399 full containment. Um but and that's um 4000 02:33:28,399 --> 02:33:29,840 that's kind of what we had based our 4001 02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:31,840 number off of. This one's a little bit 4002 02:33:31,840 --> 02:33:33,590 >> less surface area. It's a little bit 4003 02:33:33,590 --> 02:33:33,600 » less surface area. It's a little bit 4004 02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:36,960 larger diameter. But what I can do is um 4005 02:33:36,960 --> 02:33:39,600 let me go uh get on one of the bid 4006 02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:42,399 networks and find a recent bid tab. And 4007 02:33:42,399 --> 02:33:45,120 then I can also check with uh Teneemic 4008 02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:46,960 and Sherwin Williams. 4009 02:33:46,960 --> 02:33:48,710 >> Yeah, you can also call any of the 4010 02:33:48,710 --> 02:33:48,720 » Yeah, you can also call any of the 4011 02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:50,000 companies. I know that would mean they 4012 02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:51,520 possibly potentially I don't know how 4013 02:33:51,520 --> 02:33:53,200 that works for them then bidding for us, 4014 02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:54,000 but 4015 02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:55,510 >> they'll get out to you pretty fa fast 4016 02:33:55,510 --> 02:33:55,520 » they'll get out to you pretty fa fast 4017 02:33:55,520 --> 02:33:57,280 and give you an accurate estimate just 4018 02:33:57,280 --> 02:33:58,080 for 4019 02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:00,070 >> the idea that if we are needing it, we 4020 02:34:00,070 --> 02:34:00,080 » the idea that if we are needing it, we 4021 02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:01,840 need to get ahead of the grant not 4022 02:34:01,840 --> 02:34:04,000 necessarily to move forward on the work. 4023 02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:04,790 >> Understand? 4024 02:34:04,790 --> 02:34:04,800 » Understand? 4025 02:34:04,800 --> 02:34:07,429 >> What agency is that grant through? I'd 4026 02:34:07,429 --> 02:34:07,439 » What agency is that grant through? I'd 4027 02:34:07,439 --> 02:34:08,720 like to write it down. 4028 02:34:08,720 --> 02:34:12,150 >> TWWDB Mike County region. No, 4029 02:34:12,150 --> 02:34:12,160 » TWWDB Mike County region. No, 4030 02:34:12,160 --> 02:34:14,389 >> no. Texas Water Development Board, 4031 02:34:14,389 --> 02:34:14,399 » no. Texas Water Development Board, 4032 02:34:14,399 --> 02:34:14,870 >> yeah, 4033 02:34:14,870 --> 02:34:14,880 » yeah, 4034 02:34:14,880 --> 02:34:15,830 >> is one of them. 4035 02:34:15,830 --> 02:34:15,840 » is one of them. 4036 02:34:15,840 --> 02:34:17,349 >> There's there's a ton of them. That's 4037 02:34:17,349 --> 02:34:17,359 » There's there's a ton of them. That's 4038 02:34:17,359 --> 02:34:19,200 just one of the main ones. I mean, 4039 02:34:19,200 --> 02:34:21,040 there's like a dozen if you do a quick 4040 02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:22,720 search. 4041 02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:24,870 >> But, I mean, it's interesting just the 4042 02:34:24,870 --> 02:34:24,880 » But, I mean, it's interesting just the 4043 02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:26,960 water tower information just as we 4044 02:34:26,960 --> 02:34:28,880 actually had a company within our city 4045 02:34:28,880 --> 02:34:30,880 limits that builds water towers. I'm 4046 02:34:30,880 --> 02:34:32,240 just surprised we haven't communicated 4047 02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:33,840 with them. I know they've recently moved 4048 02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:36,960 out, but I mean, Landmark Towers is 4049 02:34:36,960 --> 02:34:40,399 here. Yeah, we uh negotiated with them 4050 02:34:40,399 --> 02:34:43,359 20 some odd years ago 4051 02:34:43,359 --> 02:34:44,630 >> for that water tower. 4052 02:34:44,630 --> 02:34:44,640 » for that water tower. 4053 02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:45,429 >> Yeah, 4054 02:34:45,429 --> 02:34:45,439 » Yeah, 4055 02:34:45,439 --> 02:34:47,510 >> they built that water tower. 4056 02:34:47,510 --> 02:34:47,520 » they built that water tower. 4057 02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:47,990 >> Yep. 4058 02:34:47,990 --> 02:34:48,000 » Yep. 4059 02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:49,670 >> They donated the property. 4060 02:34:49,670 --> 02:34:49,680 » They donated the property. 4061 02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:51,190 >> I know. 4062 02:34:51,190 --> 02:34:51,200 » I know. 4063 02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:55,510 >> So, well, very good. So, uh we uh but 4064 02:34:55,510 --> 02:34:55,520 » So, well, very good. So, uh we uh but 4065 02:34:55,520 --> 02:34:57,120 they sold their business. 4066 02:34:57,120 --> 02:34:57,510 >> Understood. 4067 02:34:57,510 --> 02:34:57,520 » Understood. 4068 02:34:57,520 --> 02:34:58,950 >> They're no longer in business. 4069 02:34:58,950 --> 02:34:58,960 » They're no longer in business. 4070 02:34:58,960 --> 02:35:00,309 >> They are in business. My husband works 4071 02:35:00,309 --> 02:35:00,319 » They are in business. My husband works 4072 02:35:00,319 --> 02:35:00,960 for them. 4073 02:35:00,960 --> 02:35:02,550 >> Okay. Well, they don't work there 4074 02:35:02,550 --> 02:35:02,560 » Okay. Well, they don't work there 4075 02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:03,280 anymore. 4076 02:35:03,280 --> 02:35:04,710 >> Correct. 4077 02:35:04,710 --> 02:35:04,720 » Correct. 4078 02:35:04,720 --> 02:35:11,030 >> Good. Um, Mr. Anderson, please continue. 4079 02:35:11,030 --> 02:35:11,040 » Good. Um, Mr. Anderson, please continue. 4080 02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:13,910 >> Okay. Uh, let's go to our sewer projects 4081 02:35:13,910 --> 02:35:13,920 » Okay. Uh, let's go to our sewer projects 4082 02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:16,240 real quick. The good news is Marcy said 4083 02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:17,840 everything's in the budget. So, we'll 4084 02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,880 we'll walk through the the next list of 4085 02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:22,720 uh sewer projects. See if you have any 4086 02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:25,280 questions there and then we can get into 4087 02:35:25,280 --> 02:35:27,600 streets and drainage. So, sewer is on 4088 02:35:27,600 --> 02:35:29,680 the same sheet. There's two projects on 4089 02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:34,230 there. Um, 4090 02:35:34,240 --> 02:35:36,479 I don't know who's James. Are you got do 4091 02:35:36,479 --> 02:35:37,840 you have the screen? Can we get it to 4092 02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:40,720 sewer? 4093 02:35:40,720 --> 02:35:43,830 >> Oh, mayor, can you can you slide to uh 4094 02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:43,840 » Oh, mayor, can you can you slide to uh 4095 02:35:43,840 --> 02:35:46,560 sewer projects for me, please, sir? 4096 02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:50,560 Thank you. Okay, so uh we've got sewer 4097 02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:53,520 project S5 and S6 4098 02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:55,760 um currently 4099 02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:59,280 uh in this next year's budget. Uh 4100 02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:04,080 Buffalo Creek sewer is um a necessary 4101 02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:08,080 upgrade to the downstream leg of the 4102 02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:10,479 Buffalo Creek sewer system that was put 4103 02:36:10,479 --> 02:36:14,800 in and designed back when um 4104 02:36:14,800 --> 02:36:16,960 the city was contemplating halfacre 4105 02:36:16,960 --> 02:36:20,479 lots. And so that uh 15inch line needs 4106 02:36:20,479 --> 02:36:23,280 to go to a 21. There's also a small 4107 02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:26,160 piece of sewer. Let me just see if I can 4108 02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:29,840 show you real quick. Maybe 4109 02:36:29,840 --> 02:36:32,319 It's not working. 4110 02:36:32,319 --> 02:36:34,399 There's a 4111 02:36:34,399 --> 02:36:36,640 Well, it was working earlier. There it 4112 02:36:36,640 --> 02:36:40,880 goes. There's a portion of um 4113 02:36:40,880 --> 02:36:42,960 of sewer that needs to be rerouted 4114 02:36:42,960 --> 02:36:45,760 through the uh TR meter station that's 4115 02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:47,520 about to get under construction as well. 4116 02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:52,000 So, that's a uh basically a $1.8 million 4117 02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:54,399 uh capital project. That is an impact 4118 02:36:54,399 --> 02:36:58,560 fee eligible project. We are asking for 4119 02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:00,240 165,000 4120 02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:02,640 this next year to get the design 4121 02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:06,080 completed and work through uh easement 4122 02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:07,600 acquisitions. 4123 02:37:07,600 --> 02:37:10,000 There are um let's see if I could show 4124 02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:13,349 you here. 4125 02:37:13,359 --> 02:37:14,720 » Yeah, if you don't mind. I don't know 4126 02:37:14,720 --> 02:37:23,510 how to do that. 4127 02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:25,120 » Okay. Okay. So, what we have up on the 4128 02:37:25,120 --> 02:37:26,399 screen, we're we're at the end of the 4129 02:37:26,399 --> 02:37:29,040 runway. This is Westport Parkway. The 4130 02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:33,040 the orange line you see is the 21in line 4131 02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:35,680 that's coming in from TRA with a project 4132 02:37:35,680 --> 02:37:37,920 that's about to get under construction. 4133 02:37:37,920 --> 02:37:40,560 And then we have our meter station here 4134 02:37:40,560 --> 02:37:43,120 located in this fenced area. We have to 4135 02:37:43,120 --> 02:37:46,880 reroute a portion of the city's existing 4136 02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:48,720 what used to be an 8 inch line that you 4137 02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:51,040 can kind of see here is dashed. that has 4138 02:37:51,040 --> 02:37:54,000 to get rerouted back through the the 4139 02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:58,080 back side of the meter station. Um TR 4140 02:37:58,080 --> 02:38:00,000 was not able to include that in their 4141 02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:01,920 scope of the project because they did 4142 02:38:01,920 --> 02:38:04,720 not um they didn't have any assets over 4143 02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:08,240 there uh beyond our meter. So that is a 4144 02:38:08,240 --> 02:38:11,760 project that um we've got survey done. 4145 02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:13,600 We've got the easement documents done. 4146 02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:16,399 We've got a appraisal done for one of 4147 02:38:16,399 --> 02:38:18,399 the parcels. So, we're we're well on our 4148 02:38:18,399 --> 02:38:21,280 way to having that project uh designed 4149 02:38:21,280 --> 02:38:24,720 in anticipation of going to construction 4150 02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:27,760 uh this next fiscal year. And then the 4151 02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:29,840 rest of that project would include 4152 02:38:29,840 --> 02:38:33,280 replacement of the undersized 15 4153 02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:35,200 generally shown on this screen here from 4154 02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:37,920 the meter station uh up at the top of 4155 02:38:37,920 --> 02:38:40,240 the sheet. Uh basically down through 4156 02:38:40,240 --> 02:38:44,319 Harmon Road, you see Harmon Road. Um, so 4157 02:38:44,319 --> 02:38:47,200 that's uh that's the uh imminent need 4158 02:38:47,200 --> 02:38:50,399 for uh sewer on Buffalo Creek. That is 4159 02:38:50,399 --> 02:38:54,309 project S5. 4160 02:38:54,319 --> 02:38:58,080 Um, Brentwood, 4161 02:38:58,080 --> 02:39:00,720 walk you through that real quick. Uh, 4162 02:39:00,720 --> 02:39:11,520 one of the um benefits of building the 4163 02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:13,520 fire station sewer in accordance with 4164 02:39:13,520 --> 02:39:17,120 the city's uh master plan was the 4165 02:39:17,120 --> 02:39:20,720 ability to uh provide 4166 02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:23,359 firsttime sewer service to the uh 4167 02:39:23,359 --> 02:39:27,670 Brentwood neighborhood. 4168 02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:29,280 There's currently only a small portion 4169 02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:31,920 of the neighborhood adjacent to 156 with 4170 02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:35,120 with sewer. So, you can see on my screen 4171 02:39:35,120 --> 02:39:36,800 or on your screen here, you got this 4172 02:39:36,800 --> 02:39:38,880 solid red line. That's the fire station 4173 02:39:38,880 --> 02:39:41,280 sewer line that was uh recently 4174 02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:43,120 completed to serve the fire station. The 4175 02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:46,319 the area in blue is the sewer basin that 4176 02:39:46,319 --> 02:39:49,359 that line will be able to serve. Um, now 4177 02:39:49,359 --> 02:39:51,040 that that facility is in place, you can 4178 02:39:51,040 --> 02:39:53,439 note it extends down through Hue White 4179 02:39:53,439 --> 02:39:55,280 and includes a portion of Blue Mount 4180 02:39:55,280 --> 02:39:58,160 Hill over adjacent to North Glenn. That 4181 02:39:58,160 --> 02:40:00,720 being said, uh, you'll note that 4182 02:40:00,720 --> 02:40:03,439 Brentwood uh, has the ability to be 4183 02:40:03,439 --> 02:40:05,520 served. You can note the drainage 4184 02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:08,080 divide. So, basically everything left of 4185 02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:10,800 the blue line currently has sewer out to 4186 02:40:10,800 --> 02:40:13,600 156 due to the topography. Anything to 4187 02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:15,840 the right doesn't currently have sewer, 4188 02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:19,120 um, public sewer, I should say. And so, 4189 02:40:19,120 --> 02:40:21,760 um, there's a project that we've, uh, 4190 02:40:21,760 --> 02:40:24,560 conceptualized and got in the budget, 4191 02:40:24,560 --> 02:40:28,880 um, for extension of the of a sewer main 4192 02:40:28,880 --> 02:40:30,720 into the subdivision. So, this is a 4193 02:40:30,720 --> 02:40:33,280 property map developed for the fire 4194 02:40:33,280 --> 02:40:36,880 station sewer project. And then, um, I'm 4195 02:40:36,880 --> 02:40:38,000 going to zoom in a little bit. 4196 02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:39,439 Everybody's kind of got their bearings 4197 02:40:39,439 --> 02:40:43,040 straight here. You can see uh coming off 4198 02:40:43,040 --> 02:40:45,920 of basically adjacent to the western 4199 02:40:45,920 --> 02:40:50,080 ball field uh we're proposing a 8 in 4200 02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:52,960 sewer extension into Brentwood as phase 4201 02:40:52,960 --> 02:40:54,960 one. That's the phase one project you 4202 02:40:54,960 --> 02:40:57,760 see. And then the rest of this 4203 02:40:57,760 --> 02:40:59,280 neighborhood could potentially be 4204 02:40:59,280 --> 02:41:02,880 sewered um as shown on my exhibit here. 4205 02:41:02,880 --> 02:41:06,319 Uh the the front side adjacent to 156. 4206 02:41:06,319 --> 02:41:08,160 There's some city-owned lots over there 4207 02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:10,479 and some other privately owned lots. 4208 02:41:10,479 --> 02:41:12,240 Those could tie in to the end of that 4209 02:41:12,240 --> 02:41:13,600 10-inch line that was put in with the 4210 02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:14,800 fire station. 4211 02:41:14,800 --> 02:41:19,429 >> That loop around Brentwood, all of it is 4212 02:41:19,429 --> 02:41:19,439 » That loop around Brentwood, all of it is 4213 02:41:19,439 --> 02:41:23,200 the cost of it is reflected in 2930 at 4214 02:41:23,200 --> 02:41:25,359 $450,000. 4215 02:41:25,359 --> 02:41:28,800 That's what that is. Uh there are many 4216 02:41:28,800 --> 02:41:32,399 of the uh property owners in Brentwood. 4217 02:41:32,399 --> 02:41:34,880 Well, all of them right now to date are 4218 02:41:34,880 --> 02:41:37,280 maybe except one or two on the very at 4219 02:41:37,280 --> 02:41:38,880 156. 4220 02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:41,359 All of them have san or uh septic 4221 02:41:41,359 --> 02:41:44,399 systems or anorobic systems. Many of 4222 02:41:44,399 --> 02:41:46,720 them have come and requested to tie into 4223 02:41:46,720 --> 02:41:50,000 the city sewer. And we told them it was 4224 02:41:50,000 --> 02:41:52,720 maybe going back two years about this 4225 02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:55,600 project that's coming in. And they would 4226 02:41:55,600 --> 02:42:01,120 much rather pay uh a a new septic system 4227 02:42:01,120 --> 02:42:04,880 runs about $25,000. 4228 02:42:04,880 --> 02:42:08,640 they would much rather pay uh say 14 or 4229 02:42:08,640 --> 02:42:11,280 $15,000 4230 02:42:11,280 --> 02:42:14,240 to connect to a city system. 4231 02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:17,439 It's much cheaper and more reliable. 4232 02:42:17,439 --> 02:42:20,560 So that was planned and you know and 4233 02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:23,200 hopefully maybe that can be moved up 4234 02:42:23,200 --> 02:42:25,840 from 2930 time frame. 4235 02:42:25,840 --> 02:42:27,670 >> So this is basically phase one step one 4236 02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:27,680 » So this is basically phase one step one 4237 02:42:27,680 --> 02:42:29,200 is to do this first. 4238 02:42:29,200 --> 02:42:31,030 >> Get get the line into the subdivision 4239 02:42:31,030 --> 02:42:31,040 » Get get the line into the subdivision 4240 02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:33,840 and then go from there. And the mayor 4241 02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:36,080 the mayor um spoke about the potential 4242 02:42:36,080 --> 02:42:39,280 for a kind of like a a hookup connection 4243 02:42:39,280 --> 02:42:41,920 charge. There's we did a project many 4244 02:42:41,920 --> 02:42:45,280 years ago and the uh part of South Lake 4245 02:42:45,280 --> 02:42:46,960 where we were running firsttime sewer 4246 02:42:46,960 --> 02:42:49,439 service and and the mayor's speaking 4247 02:42:49,439 --> 02:42:51,439 about replacement of septics. It was the 4248 02:42:51,439 --> 02:42:53,120 same situation out there. Those folks 4249 02:42:53,120 --> 02:42:56,080 were faced with do we spend $20,000 at 4250 02:42:56,080 --> 02:42:57,439 the time for septic or do we 4251 02:42:57,439 --> 02:43:00,080 spend$10,000. I think the city basically 4252 02:43:00,080 --> 02:43:02,319 said we'll cover it 50/50. you put in 4253 02:43:02,319 --> 02:43:04,319 10, we'll cover 10. So, those are all 4254 02:43:04,319 --> 02:43:05,840 policy questions that we'll have to get 4255 02:43:05,840 --> 02:43:08,240 to at some point, but uh yeah, there's 4256 02:43:08,240 --> 02:43:11,120 some different options there um for 4257 02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:13,120 that. So, that's that's that project. 4258 02:43:13,120 --> 02:43:15,359 Now, that project does require some 4259 02:43:15,359 --> 02:43:17,120 easements, and there's been some 4260 02:43:17,120 --> 02:43:18,960 discussion on on how some of those 4261 02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:21,439 easements may or may not be worked 4262 02:43:21,439 --> 02:43:22,800 through there with some of the property 4263 02:43:22,800 --> 02:43:24,640 owners. And so, we're we're just trying 4264 02:43:24,640 --> 02:43:26,240 to work through some of the minutia and 4265 02:43:26,240 --> 02:43:29,040 detail of that. But the the good news is 4266 02:43:29,040 --> 02:43:31,280 the ability to serve is there. uh 4267 02:43:31,280 --> 02:43:34,319 because that line was basically uh built 4268 02:43:34,319 --> 02:43:36,080 in accordance with the master plan. 4269 02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:38,469 >> And go back to that uh area where you 4270 02:43:38,469 --> 02:43:38,479 » And go back to that uh area where you 4271 02:43:38,479 --> 02:43:40,880 had the blue boundary around this uh 4272 02:43:40,880 --> 02:43:41,600 basin. 4273 02:43:41,600 --> 02:43:42,389 >> Yes, sir. 4274 02:43:42,389 --> 02:43:42,399 » Yes, sir. 4275 02:43:42,399 --> 02:43:44,230 >> Just to give them a little background 4276 02:43:44,230 --> 02:43:44,240 » Just to give them a little background 4277 02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:46,000 early on, there were two different 4278 02:43:46,000 --> 02:43:49,600 routes that could have been chosen to uh 4279 02:43:49,600 --> 02:43:52,560 provide this uh new sewer line. one 4280 02:43:52,560 --> 02:43:55,359 would have been gone from uh the fire 4281 02:43:55,359 --> 02:43:56,880 station 4282 02:43:56,880 --> 02:43:59,760 straight out to 156, 4283 02:43:59,760 --> 02:44:02,640 but it uh uh through the study of it 4284 02:44:02,640 --> 02:44:06,880 that opened up a more limited area of 4285 02:44:06,880 --> 02:44:11,840 service, I think about 360 acres. 4286 02:44:11,840 --> 02:44:15,040 This one uh essentially for the same 4287 02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:19,279 money, different route, different basin, 4288 02:44:19,279 --> 02:44:23,520 opened up 540 acres. 4289 02:44:23,520 --> 02:44:26,800 So, it uh it was a good choice. Uh it'll 4290 02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:31,750 be a good return on that investment. 4291 02:44:31,760 --> 02:44:34,399 » Any questions on the two sewer projects 4292 02:44:34,399 --> 02:44:38,720 that we have on the on the list? 4293 02:44:38,720 --> 02:44:40,070 >> I just meant to ask you for sewer and 4294 02:44:40,070 --> 02:44:40,080 » I just meant to ask you for sewer and 4295 02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:41,680 water. Is there anything that you feel 4296 02:44:41,680 --> 02:44:44,960 like is a priority that's not listed for 4297 02:44:44,960 --> 02:44:46,720 this year for either of them? Something 4298 02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:47,520 that we're leaving out? 4299 02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:48,790 >> No, ma'am. We're covered. 4300 02:44:48,790 --> 02:44:48,800 » No, ma'am. We're covered. 4301 02:44:48,800 --> 02:44:54,630 >> Okay. 4302 02:44:54,640 --> 02:44:56,720 Okay. If if we're good on water and 4303 02:44:56,720 --> 02:44:58,399 sewer, 4304 02:44:58,399 --> 02:45:00,960 then uh maybe we jump into roads. So, 4305 02:45:00,960 --> 02:45:02,720 that's the big list with the big dollars 4306 02:45:02,720 --> 02:45:10,230 down at the bottom. 4307 02:45:10,240 --> 02:45:18,150 All right, James. What do I do here? 4308 02:45:18,160 --> 02:45:23,830 » Streets, drainage, and improvements. 4309 02:45:23,840 --> 02:45:26,640 Uh, so I will uh I'll say this, streets, 4310 02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:28,960 drainage, improvements is going to take 4311 02:45:28,960 --> 02:45:31,680 a little bit longer than water and sewer 4312 02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:34,560 did put together. Do you want a break 4313 02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:37,920 for lunch now? and then come back and 4314 02:45:37,920 --> 02:45:41,040 start with water and sewer or streets. 4315 02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:42,550 >> Could we spend five minutes and get our 4316 02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:42,560 » Could we spend five minutes and get our 4317 02:45:42,560 --> 02:45:44,399 food and then work while we eat 4318 02:45:44,399 --> 02:45:45,670 >> because we we 4319 02:45:45,670 --> 02:45:45,680 » because we we 4320 02:45:45,680 --> 02:45:47,190 >> we don't have families. It's the last 4321 02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:47,200 » we don't have families. It's the last 4322 02:45:47,200 --> 02:45:50,880 weekend of Sorry. It's the last weekend 4323 02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:52,240 of summer. I think we're all trying to 4324 02:45:52,240 --> 02:45:53,279 get out of here. 4325 02:45:53,279 --> 02:45:55,590 >> I will say I do believe Mr. Anderson has 4326 02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:55,600 » I will say I do believe Mr. Anderson has 4327 02:45:55,600 --> 02:45:58,000 to leave at some point, too. He has 4328 02:45:58,000 --> 02:45:59,840 other 4329 02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:00,950 >> What's your cut off? 4330 02:46:00,950 --> 02:46:00,960 » What's your cut off? 4331 02:46:00,960 --> 02:46:02,389 >> As long as I'm out of here by two 4332 02:46:02,389 --> 02:46:02,399 » As long as I'm out of here by two 4333 02:46:02,399 --> 02:46:03,359 o'clock, I'm good. 4334 02:46:03,359 --> 02:46:04,550 >> Oh my goodness. 4335 02:46:04,550 --> 02:46:04,560 » Oh my goodness. 4336 02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:06,550 >> Oh. So, can we please take like five 4337 02:46:06,550 --> 02:46:06,560 » Oh. So, can we please take like five 4338 02:46:06,560 --> 02:46:07,680 minutes and get our food and come back 4339 02:46:07,680 --> 02:46:10,240 and work through lunch and and and keep 4340 02:46:10,240 --> 02:46:10,640 going 4341 02:46:10,640 --> 02:46:11,990 >> or wait and break through for lunch 4342 02:46:11,990 --> 02:46:12,000 » or wait and break through for lunch 4343 02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:14,000 later? Either one's fine. 4344 02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:16,230 >> Sure, we'll do that. So, I'll tell you 4345 02:46:16,230 --> 02:46:16,240 » Sure, we'll do that. So, I'll tell you 4346 02:46:16,240 --> 02:46:18,399 what then. I'm going to recess the open 4347 02:46:18,399 --> 02:46:21,200 session for 15 minutes. 4348 02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:22,469 >> Get your food. 4349 02:46:22,469 --> 02:46:22,479 » Get your food. 4350 02:46:22,479 --> 02:46:23,750 >> Okay. Thank you. 4351 02:46:23,750 --> 02:46:23,760 » Okay. Thank you. 4352 02:46:23,760 --> 03:09:36,790 >> Thank you. So, it's recessed at 11:35. 4353 03:09:36,800 --> 03:09:39,439 Let's resume the uh open session from 4354 03:09:39,439 --> 03:09:43,920 recess. call to order this uh uh open 4355 03:09:43,920 --> 03:09:49,190 session at 11:58 a.m. 4356 03:09:49,200 --> 03:09:51,279 We have streets and drainage 4357 03:09:51,279 --> 03:09:57,349 improvements capital projects. 4358 03:09:57,359 --> 03:09:58,720 Mr. Anderson, 4359 03:09:58,720 --> 03:10:01,670 >> thank you, Mayor. 4360 03:10:01,670 --> 03:10:01,680 » thank you, Mayor. 4361 03:10:01,680 --> 03:10:04,800 Um everybody has the big list 4362 03:10:04,800 --> 03:10:06,479 front of them. 4363 03:10:06,479 --> 03:10:10,720 Uh project one is the uh Blue Mountain 4364 03:10:10,720 --> 03:10:14,880 Road and 156 intersection improvements 4365 03:10:14,880 --> 03:10:18,560 project. This is the uh we presented 4366 03:10:18,560 --> 03:10:21,520 this back in June, I believe. And we 4367 03:10:21,520 --> 03:10:24,800 presented a a schedule for this project. 4368 03:10:24,800 --> 03:10:27,600 Um, basically showing this is a more or 4369 03:10:27,600 --> 03:10:30,080 less a three-year project by the time 4370 03:10:30,080 --> 03:10:32,640 all the design, rightway acquisition, 4371 03:10:32,640 --> 03:10:35,920 utility relocation, and construction is 4372 03:10:35,920 --> 03:10:38,000 is sorted out. So, we're recommending 4373 03:10:38,000 --> 03:10:43,439 that 450 plus 525 for to total uh what 4374 03:10:43,439 --> 03:10:45,680 is that 975 4375 03:10:45,680 --> 03:10:49,120 be budgeted this fiscal year uh for 4376 03:10:49,120 --> 03:10:53,680 design permitting [clears throat] and um 4377 03:10:53,680 --> 03:10:56,560 uh rightway acquisition for the project 4378 03:10:56,560 --> 03:10:59,600 and that's to keep it in general uh 4379 03:10:59,600 --> 03:11:02,080 conformance to the the schedule that we 4380 03:11:02,080 --> 03:11:04,880 presented back in June. Uh if you 4381 03:11:04,880 --> 03:11:07,279 recall, this is a basically a $5 million 4382 03:11:07,279 --> 03:11:10,319 project. There are um there is a portion 4383 03:11:10,319 --> 03:11:13,120 of this that we expect funding from the 4384 03:11:13,120 --> 03:11:16,319 uh lapel development in Fort Worth. We 4385 03:11:16,319 --> 03:11:19,760 haven't uh gone through and um figured 4386 03:11:19,760 --> 03:11:22,399 out exactly what percentage of this uh 4387 03:11:22,399 --> 03:11:24,080 total project cost they would be 4388 03:11:24,080 --> 03:11:26,560 responsible for under the terms of the 4389 03:11:26,560 --> 03:11:29,120 agreement. But um I suspect it's 4390 03:11:29,120 --> 03:11:31,840 somewhere in the neighborhood of uh 10 4391 03:11:31,840 --> 03:11:36,160 to 20% just depending on the um ultimate 4392 03:11:36,160 --> 03:11:37,600 costs and how we get this thing 4393 03:11:37,600 --> 03:11:40,000 implemented. They were they were 4394 03:11:40,000 --> 03:11:42,240 responsible for a turn lane, a 100 foot 4395 03:11:42,240 --> 03:11:44,960 turn lane. And if you recall, we had 400 4396 03:11:44,960 --> 03:11:47,920 foot long turn lanes and multiple 4397 03:11:47,920 --> 03:11:51,359 multiple iterations of those. And so, 4398 03:11:51,359 --> 03:11:55,920 um, this project is is, um, is important 4399 03:11:55,920 --> 03:11:57,600 and there's quite a bit of leg work to 4400 03:11:57,600 --> 03:11:59,439 do before we can get to construction. 4401 03:11:59,439 --> 03:12:01,750 >> So, just to [clears throat] this would 4402 03:12:01,750 --> 03:12:01,760 » So, just to [clears throat] this would 4403 03:12:01,760 --> 03:12:03,840 be on our [snorts] capital outlay. This 4404 03:12:03,840 --> 03:12:05,840 is not in our budget currently as as 4405 03:12:05,840 --> 03:12:08,080 funded. Correct. 4406 03:12:08,080 --> 03:12:08,630 >> Correct. 4407 03:12:08,630 --> 03:12:08,640 » Correct. 4408 03:12:08,640 --> 03:12:10,469 >> Okay. So, if we wanted to add it, we 4409 03:12:10,469 --> 03:12:10,479 » Okay. So, if we wanted to add it, we 4410 03:12:10,479 --> 03:12:12,960 would put it in our page 21 that the 4411 03:12:12,960 --> 03:12:14,800 capital outlay. 4412 03:12:14,800 --> 03:12:18,399 Is that correct? As for for projects. 4413 03:12:18,399 --> 03:12:19,110 >> Yes. 4414 03:12:19,110 --> 03:12:19,120 » Yes. 4415 03:12:19,120 --> 03:12:21,269 >> Okay. Thank you. 4416 03:12:21,269 --> 03:12:21,279 » Okay. Thank you. 4417 03:12:21,279 --> 03:12:23,429 >> So, we didn't get this far on Saturday, 4418 03:12:23,429 --> 03:12:23,439 » So, we didn't get this far on Saturday, 4419 03:12:23,439 --> 03:12:24,150 >> correct? 4420 03:12:24,150 --> 03:12:24,160 » correct? 4421 03:12:24,160 --> 03:12:24,870 >> Okay. 4422 03:12:24,870 --> 03:12:24,880 » Okay. 4423 03:12:24,880 --> 03:12:26,950 >> No, we talked about all this, but 4424 03:12:26,950 --> 03:12:26,960 » No, we talked about all this, but 4425 03:12:26,960 --> 03:12:27,750 >> but 4426 03:12:27,750 --> 03:12:27,760 » but 4427 03:12:27,760 --> 03:12:29,990 >> y'all had a separate meeting. I know 4428 03:12:29,990 --> 03:12:30,000 » y'all had a separate meeting. I know 4429 03:12:30,000 --> 03:12:30,560 that. 4430 03:12:30,560 --> 03:12:32,550 >> No, we met last Saturday here and we 4431 03:12:32,550 --> 03:12:32,560 » No, we met last Saturday here and we 4432 03:12:32,560 --> 03:12:33,040 talked about 4433 03:12:33,040 --> 03:12:34,630 >> No, but prior to that, there was a 4434 03:12:34,630 --> 03:12:34,640 » No, but prior to that, there was a 4435 03:12:34,640 --> 03:12:35,040 separate 4436 03:12:35,040 --> 03:12:36,630 >> That was just a discussion. We didn't 4437 03:12:36,630 --> 03:12:36,640 » That was just a discussion. We didn't 4438 03:12:36,640 --> 03:12:37,279 make any changes. 4439 03:12:37,279 --> 03:12:39,110 >> We reviewed these very specific 4440 03:12:39,110 --> 03:12:39,120 » We reviewed these very specific 4441 03:12:39,120 --> 03:12:41,520 projects, but this we can brought up 4442 03:12:41,520 --> 03:12:43,279 last Saturday. Yes. There were all this, 4443 03:12:43,279 --> 03:12:45,359 but it wasn't added in like officially. 4444 03:12:45,359 --> 03:12:46,469 >> No, it was it was 4445 03:12:46,469 --> 03:12:46,479 » No, it was it was 4446 03:12:46,479 --> 03:12:49,269 >> it's on your sheet of changes. 4447 03:12:49,269 --> 03:12:49,279 » it's on your sheet of changes. 4448 03:12:49,279 --> 03:12:52,160 on a general. 4449 03:12:52,160 --> 03:12:53,990 >> Yes. And we went through it kind of 4450 03:12:53,990 --> 03:12:54,000 » Yes. And we went through it kind of 4451 03:12:54,000 --> 03:12:56,160 tentatively and rushed, but we said we 4452 03:12:56,160 --> 03:12:58,000 all we all had questions for Mike and 4453 03:12:58,000 --> 03:12:59,040 wanted to come back to this. 4454 03:12:59,040 --> 03:13:00,870 >> Is this a public document? Like can we 4455 03:13:00,870 --> 03:13:00,880 » Is this a public document? Like can we 4456 03:13:00,880 --> 03:13:03,600 is this available? Can anybody in the 4457 03:13:03,600 --> 03:13:05,359 public have this information? 4458 03:13:05,359 --> 03:13:06,950 >> It is posted with the agenda. 4459 03:13:06,950 --> 03:13:06,960 » It is posted with the agenda. 4460 03:13:06,960 --> 03:13:08,070 >> This is Yes, sir. 4461 03:13:08,070 --> 03:13:08,080 » This is Yes, sir. 4462 03:13:08,080 --> 03:13:09,030 >> Okay. Thank you, 4463 03:13:09,030 --> 03:13:09,040 » Okay. Thank you, 4464 03:13:09,040 --> 03:13:11,590 >> Marcy. Where is it? I'm sorry. on the 4465 03:13:11,590 --> 03:13:11,600 » Marcy. Where is it? I'm sorry. on the 4466 03:13:11,600 --> 03:13:14,080 new general fund overall budget summary. 4467 03:13:14,080 --> 03:13:15,349 >> It's [clears throat] 4468 03:13:15,349 --> 03:13:15,359 » It's [clears throat] 4469 03:13:15,359 --> 03:13:20,150 um it's on the list 4470 03:13:20,160 --> 03:13:22,000 » the list of changes that looks like 4471 03:13:22,000 --> 03:13:23,200 this. 4472 03:13:23,200 --> 03:13:25,590 >> Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you. 4473 03:13:25,590 --> 03:13:25,600 » Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you. 4474 03:13:25,600 --> 03:13:28,070 >> Because you don't have new budget pages. 4475 03:13:28,070 --> 03:13:28,080 » Because you don't have new budget pages. 4476 03:13:28,080 --> 03:13:28,630 >> Okay. 4477 03:13:28,630 --> 03:13:28,640 » Okay. 4478 03:13:28,640 --> 03:13:30,469 >> You you have the general it's it's on 4479 03:13:30,469 --> 03:13:30,479 » You you have the general it's it's on 4480 03:13:30,479 --> 03:13:31,680 that general [clears throat] fund thing. 4481 03:13:31,680 --> 03:13:34,160 But um 4482 03:13:34,160 --> 03:13:34,469 >> and 4483 03:13:34,469 --> 03:13:34,479 » and 4484 03:13:34,479 --> 03:13:37,429 >> so under general fund capital outlay 4485 03:13:37,429 --> 03:13:37,439 » so under general fund capital outlay 4486 03:13:37,439 --> 03:13:42,950 this SD1 is the 975. 4487 03:13:42,960 --> 03:13:46,720 » You added that and then the next one 4488 03:13:46,720 --> 03:13:49,279 Blue Mountain Road at John Day. You 4489 03:13:49,279 --> 03:13:51,920 added 4490 03:13:51,920 --> 03:13:52,550 >> where are you? 4491 03:13:52,550 --> 03:13:52,560 » where are you? 4492 03:13:52,560 --> 03:13:53,190 >> Thank you. And 4493 03:13:53,190 --> 03:13:53,200 » Thank you. And 4494 03:13:53,200 --> 03:13:55,429 >> this page is what this 4495 03:13:55,429 --> 03:13:55,439 » this page is what this 4496 03:13:55,439 --> 03:13:56,950 >> that's the list of changes that were 4497 03:13:56,950 --> 03:13:56,960 » that's the list of changes that were 4498 03:13:56,960 --> 03:13:58,319 made at the last workshop. 4499 03:13:58,319 --> 03:14:00,389 >> Thank you. I was looking at my old 4500 03:14:00,389 --> 03:14:00,399 » Thank you. I was looking at my old 4501 03:14:00,399 --> 03:14:03,990 >> sheet. It's a mix of page 21 and the new 4502 03:14:03,990 --> 03:14:04,000 » sheet. It's a mix of page 21 and the new 4503 03:14:04,000 --> 03:14:06,000 packet she gave you. And you're really 4504 03:14:06,000 --> 03:14:08,000 looking at three documents right now. 4505 03:14:08,000 --> 03:14:12,560 Page 21, her new packet, and the 4506 03:14:12,560 --> 03:14:13,830 >> the capital improvement plan. 4507 03:14:13,830 --> 03:14:13,840 » the capital improvement plan. 4508 03:14:13,840 --> 03:14:17,510 >> I'm lost. I can't find it. I'm sorry. 4509 03:14:17,510 --> 03:14:17,520 » I'm lost. I can't find it. I'm sorry. 4510 03:14:17,520 --> 03:14:18,550 >> Huh? 4511 03:14:18,550 --> 03:14:18,560 » Huh? 4512 03:14:18,560 --> 03:14:20,150 >> You got it, Marcy. 4513 03:14:20,150 --> 03:14:20,160 » You got it, Marcy. 4514 03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:21,510 >> Is that this? 4515 03:14:21,510 --> 03:14:21,520 » Is that this? 4516 03:14:21,520 --> 03:14:23,190 >> Okay. Where where you Where are you? 4517 03:14:23,190 --> 03:14:23,200 » Okay. Where where you Where are you? 4518 03:14:23,200 --> 03:14:24,880 Sorry. 4519 03:14:24,880 --> 03:14:26,870 >> Our changes are noted at the top. 4520 03:14:26,870 --> 03:14:26,880 » Our changes are noted at the top. 4521 03:14:26,880 --> 03:14:28,389 >> Like 975. 4522 03:14:28,389 --> 03:14:28,399 » Like 975. 4523 03:14:28,399 --> 03:14:29,030 >> Thank you. 4524 03:14:29,030 --> 03:14:29,040 » Thank you. 4525 03:14:29,040 --> 03:14:30,710 >> 1.4. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. 4526 03:14:30,710 --> 03:14:30,720 » 1.4. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. 4527 03:14:30,720 --> 03:14:31,840 Sorry. 4528 03:14:31,840 --> 03:14:33,190 >> My apologies everybody. 4529 03:14:33,190 --> 03:14:33,200 » My apologies everybody. 4530 03:14:33,200 --> 03:14:34,550 >> It's a little confusing. 4531 03:14:34,550 --> 03:14:34,560 » It's a little confusing. 4532 03:14:34,560 --> 03:14:36,150 >> It's a little small. My eyes are not as 4533 03:14:36,150 --> 03:14:36,160 » It's a little small. My eyes are not as 4534 03:14:36,160 --> 03:14:38,800 good as with these glasses. What's that? 4535 03:14:38,800 --> 03:14:42,389 >> Thank you. 4536 03:14:42,399 --> 03:14:45,920 » No, look. This is what I need to do. 4537 03:14:45,920 --> 03:14:50,150 >> Now I can see it. 4538 03:14:50,160 --> 03:14:53,040 » Okay. Thanks, Mike. 4539 03:14:53,040 --> 03:14:54,309 >> Okay. 4540 03:14:54,309 --> 03:14:54,319 » Okay. 4541 03:14:54,319 --> 03:14:55,670 >> Thanks, Mike. Please continue. 4542 03:14:55,670 --> 03:14:55,680 » Thanks, Mike. Please continue. 4543 03:14:55,680 --> 03:14:58,950 >> Absolutely. Absolutely. So everybody's 4544 03:14:58,950 --> 03:14:58,960 » Absolutely. Absolutely. So everybody's 4545 03:14:58,960 --> 03:15:02,880 good with project one 156 Blue Mountain. 4546 03:15:02,880 --> 03:15:06,560 Okay. So we we've estimated the rideway 4547 03:15:06,560 --> 03:15:09,520 needs. We've estimated the value of the 4548 03:15:09,520 --> 03:15:13,040 rideway based on what we've seen for 4549 03:15:13,040 --> 03:15:15,200 transactions in this area as a cost per 4550 03:15:15,200 --> 03:15:18,319 square foot. We anticipate that during 4551 03:15:18,319 --> 03:15:20,880 the rideway acquisition process, 4552 03:15:20,880 --> 03:15:23,279 appraisals will be needed. We'll have to 4553 03:15:23,279 --> 03:15:24,720 go through the formal process of 4554 03:15:24,720 --> 03:15:27,200 acquiring rightaway. So, this is a this 4555 03:15:27,200 --> 03:15:29,359 is a healthy budget to get started on 4556 03:15:29,359 --> 03:15:31,359 the project. We'd like to be 4557 03:15:31,359 --> 03:15:33,920 conservative in our numbers. Um, and 4558 03:15:33,920 --> 03:15:35,920 that same can be said with that second 4559 03:15:35,920 --> 03:15:37,840 project as well, Bluemount at John Day 4560 03:15:37,840 --> 03:15:41,200 Road. I think there's over $800,000 in 4561 03:15:41,200 --> 03:15:43,359 that particular project for rideaway in 4562 03:15:43,359 --> 03:15:46,720 and of itself. So, um, was there any 4563 03:15:46,720 --> 03:15:48,399 questions on the Blue Mountain John Day 4564 03:15:48,399 --> 03:15:52,160 road similar setup? The developer, LRIL, 4565 03:15:52,160 --> 03:15:54,080 is responsible under the terms of our 4566 03:15:54,080 --> 03:15:55,760 development agreement for construction 4567 03:15:55,760 --> 03:15:59,120 of the traffic signal itself and a turn 4568 03:15:59,120 --> 03:16:00,880 lane at John Day Road. 4569 03:16:00,880 --> 03:16:02,389 >> And that's a 1.425. 4570 03:16:02,389 --> 03:16:02,399 » And that's a 1.425. 4571 03:16:02,399 --> 03:16:03,110 >> Yes, ma'am. 4572 03:16:03,110 --> 03:16:03,120 » Yes, ma'am. 4573 03:16:03,120 --> 03:16:04,710 >> The only question I have um 4574 03:16:04,710 --> 03:16:04,720 » The only question I have um 4575 03:16:04,720 --> 03:16:05,590 >> Yes, sir. 4576 03:16:05,590 --> 03:16:05,600 » Yes, sir. 4577 03:16:05,600 --> 03:16:08,511 >> Mr. Anderson, is is there 4578 03:16:08,511 --> 03:16:08,521 » Mr. Anderson, is is there 4579 03:16:08,521 --> 03:16:11,120 [clears throat] any way we can before we 4580 03:16:11,120 --> 03:16:12,800 can widen the road because that's going 4581 03:16:12,800 --> 03:16:14,800 to take a couple years. Is there any way 4582 03:16:14,800 --> 03:16:16,640 we can make that intersection a light 4583 03:16:16,640 --> 03:16:20,080 like right now? Because 4584 03:16:20,080 --> 03:16:22,399 just to get off of John Day onto Blue 4585 03:16:22,399 --> 03:16:25,279 Mound going east is almost impossible in 4586 03:16:25,279 --> 03:16:28,479 the evenings. Um, so if you could if we 4587 03:16:28,479 --> 03:16:31,200 could make that a light like a lot 4588 03:16:31,200 --> 03:16:34,080 quicker, even if we put up temporary 4589 03:16:34,080 --> 03:16:36,399 poles just to get a a light put on 4590 03:16:36,399 --> 03:16:38,319 there, that would be incredibly helpful 4591 03:16:38,319 --> 03:16:40,239 until we get the road widened. 4592 03:16:40,239 --> 03:16:43,269 >> I can answer that question. That is all 4593 03:16:43,269 --> 03:16:43,279 » I can answer that question. That is all 4594 03:16:43,279 --> 03:16:46,319 dependent upon Tarant County. Uh I know 4595 03:16:46,319 --> 03:16:49,279 that uh engineering myself and David 4596 03:16:49,279 --> 03:16:52,160 Rogers has been working with Tarant 4597 03:16:52,160 --> 03:16:55,120 County for probably two years on that 4598 03:16:55,120 --> 03:16:56,960 intersection. 4599 03:16:56,960 --> 03:16:59,279 They control it. Everything from the 4600 03:16:59,279 --> 03:17:01,760 railroad tracks going west almost all 4601 03:17:01,760 --> 03:17:06,239 the way to 287 is a county road. Uh we 4602 03:17:06,239 --> 03:17:09,040 have given them information, traffic 4603 03:17:09,040 --> 03:17:12,560 counts. We've had him come out here time 4604 03:17:12,560 --> 03:17:15,840 and time again, multiple times, very 4605 03:17:15,840 --> 03:17:17,760 specifically. I think the last meeting 4606 03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:20,319 that we had was maybe three months ago 4607 03:17:20,319 --> 03:17:25,200 in your office with precinct three to 4608 03:17:25,200 --> 03:17:27,200 look at this and they took it all back 4609 03:17:27,200 --> 03:17:29,439 and said, "Okay, here's what we need the 4610 03:17:29,439 --> 03:17:32,000 county to do. We're prepared to do this 4611 03:17:32,000 --> 03:17:34,479 piece on the city of Hasset Road, which 4612 03:17:34,479 --> 03:17:40,309 is John Day Road." And 4613 03:17:40,319 --> 03:17:46,080 We have not had any movement. It is um 4614 03:17:46,080 --> 03:17:48,560 I don't know why they understand the 4615 03:17:48,560 --> 03:17:51,600 problem. They understand the issue. It's 4616 03:17:51,600 --> 03:17:54,000 probably a matter of money. It might be 4617 03:17:54,000 --> 03:17:57,439 a prioritization on the county's part. 4618 03:17:57,439 --> 03:18:00,319 Well, we're spending money on Bond Ranch 4619 03:18:00,319 --> 03:18:04,880 Road and or over here and over here and 4620 03:18:04,880 --> 03:18:07,760 this is not on their radar yet. They do 4621 03:18:07,760 --> 03:18:10,880 understand. We have been uh I'll say at 4622 03:18:10,880 --> 03:18:12,960 times aggressive in our communication 4623 03:18:12,960 --> 03:18:15,760 with them to let them know this is a 4624 03:18:15,760 --> 03:18:19,680 persistent problem and uh we need the 4625 03:18:19,680 --> 03:18:22,960 county's help. This is a regional issue. 4626 03:18:22,960 --> 03:18:25,200 This is not generated by Hasset 4627 03:18:25,200 --> 03:18:26,720 residents. 4628 03:18:26,720 --> 03:18:30,657 This is a regional issue. And so 4629 03:18:30,657 --> 03:18:31,359 [clears throat] 4630 03:18:31,359 --> 03:18:34,560 it is all in the county's court to put 4631 03:18:34,560 --> 03:18:36,800 that intersection light up there. even 4632 03:18:36,800 --> 03:18:40,560 if we were to pay for it, it's still on 4633 03:18:40,560 --> 03:18:43,279 their side to do the 4634 03:18:43,279 --> 03:18:45,120 improvement, 4635 03:18:45,120 --> 03:18:48,319 authorize it. There's an issue with we 4636 03:18:48,319 --> 03:18:52,160 have even gone to the extent to 4637 03:18:52,160 --> 03:18:54,000 um 4638 03:18:54,000 --> 03:18:57,040 let let Hasset annex 4639 03:18:57,040 --> 03:19:00,080 Blue Mound Road from the railroad tracks 4640 03:19:00,080 --> 03:19:03,040 to John Day Road to the west side of 4641 03:19:03,040 --> 03:19:07,600 John Day Road. And we will do that work. 4642 03:19:07,600 --> 03:19:10,080 We will plan it. 4643 03:19:10,080 --> 03:19:13,840 And no, sorry. 4644 03:19:13,840 --> 03:19:16,870 >> There's there are legal issues related 4645 03:19:16,870 --> 03:19:16,880 » There's there are legal issues related 4646 03:19:16,880 --> 03:19:20,479 with it in how the right of way for uh 4647 03:19:20,479 --> 03:19:24,720 Blue Mountain Road was um 4648 03:19:24,720 --> 03:19:26,239 let 4649 03:19:26,239 --> 03:19:29,200 um there's not is what do you call it? 4650 03:19:29,200 --> 03:19:32,479 Prescriptive right of way. It does not 4651 03:19:32,479 --> 03:19:36,960 give the county outright ownership. 4652 03:19:36,960 --> 03:19:38,150 >> So, who owns it? 4653 03:19:38,150 --> 03:19:38,160 » So, who owns it? 4654 03:19:38,160 --> 03:19:40,630 >> That's the le [clears throat] 4655 03:19:40,630 --> 03:19:40,640 » That's the le [clears throat] 4656 03:19:40,640 --> 03:19:41,279 who does. 4657 03:19:41,279 --> 03:19:42,229 >> Pardon? 4658 03:19:42,229 --> 03:19:42,239 » Pardon? 4659 03:19:42,239 --> 03:19:43,750 >> If they don't have outright ownership, 4660 03:19:43,750 --> 03:19:43,760 » If they don't have outright ownership, 4661 03:19:43,760 --> 03:19:44,479 who does? 4662 03:19:44,479 --> 03:19:47,269 >> The property owners, 4663 03:19:47,269 --> 03:19:47,279 » The property owners, 4664 03:19:47,279 --> 03:19:49,830 >> the houses that back up right there or 4665 03:19:49,830 --> 03:19:49,840 » the houses that back up right there or 4666 03:19:49,840 --> 03:19:51,600 that whole neighborhood? the pro, you 4667 03:19:51,600 --> 03:19:55,520 know, such as, you know, the uh 97 acres 4668 03:19:55,520 --> 03:19:58,560 along the east side of John Day Road in 4669 03:19:58,560 --> 03:20:01,359 Blue Mound right there. That 97 acres, 4670 03:20:01,359 --> 03:20:03,439 that property owner owns to the center 4671 03:20:03,439 --> 03:20:05,600 line. 4672 03:20:05,600 --> 03:20:08,150 >> So, it's not the homeowners. Now, the 4673 03:20:08,150 --> 03:20:08,160 » So, it's not the homeowners. Now, the 4674 03:20:08,160 --> 03:20:10,319 homeowners on the west side, which would 4675 03:20:10,319 --> 03:20:13,520 be Fort Worth, 4676 03:20:13,520 --> 03:20:18,239 city of Fort Worth, they uh may I we 4677 03:20:18,239 --> 03:20:22,550 have not investigated that 4678 03:20:22,560 --> 03:20:27,279 » pull up an exhibit real quick. 4679 03:20:27,279 --> 03:20:31,590 the big button. 4680 03:20:31,600 --> 03:20:33,600 » So here's 4681 03:20:33,600 --> 03:20:35,520 everybody can see it. You see we drew in 4682 03:20:35,520 --> 03:20:38,399 the actual lots in the rideway. So 4683 03:20:38,399 --> 03:20:40,239 licated 4684 03:20:40,239 --> 03:20:43,760 rideway public rideway their property. 4685 03:20:43,760 --> 03:20:46,319 So that way 4686 03:20:46,319 --> 03:20:48,239 is clear. 4687 03:20:48,239 --> 03:21:08,309 The rideway on the south side from Lond. 4688 03:21:08,319 --> 03:21:08,880 » Yeah. 4689 03:21:08,880 --> 03:21:11,349 >> So, and they also 4690 03:21:11,349 --> 03:21:11,359 » So, and they also 4691 03:21:11,359 --> 03:21:14,309 >> I'll buy him a nice steak dinner. 4692 03:21:14,309 --> 03:21:14,319 » I'll buy him a nice steak dinner. 4693 03:21:14,319 --> 03:21:16,790 >> I think I understand what you're asking. 4694 03:21:16,790 --> 03:21:16,800 » I think I understand what you're asking. 4695 03:21:16,800 --> 03:21:18,640 The mayor did a good job of summarizing 4696 03:21:18,640 --> 03:21:21,680 the work to date. provided with study 4697 03:21:21,680 --> 03:21:24,479 saying that you know we like to see a 4698 03:21:24,479 --> 03:21:27,840 minimum stop sign put up here but we 4699 03:21:27,840 --> 03:21:29,840 could we have the ability to do the 4700 03:21:29,840 --> 03:21:34,560 necessary warranty proies 4701 03:21:34,560 --> 03:21:36,319 from the adjacent developments and we've 4702 03:21:36,319 --> 03:21:42,319 got somebody that may try to implement 4703 03:21:42,319 --> 03:21:47,120 using the funds that were in hand 4704 03:21:47,120 --> 03:21:48,560 we just need to go through and get the 4705 03:21:48,560 --> 03:21:51,840 design so that light configuration could 4706 03:21:51,840 --> 03:21:54,800 work with the planned improvements here. 4707 03:21:54,800 --> 03:21:58,640 That's all complicated by the bridge. 4708 03:21:58,640 --> 03:22:00,550 >> That's all complicated with the bridge 4709 03:22:00,550 --> 03:22:00,560 » That's all complicated with the bridge 4710 03:22:00,560 --> 03:22:02,800 that's coming in that was just applied 4711 03:22:02,800 --> 03:22:04,960 for by Taran County and BNSF last fall, 4712 03:22:04,960 --> 03:22:08,239 too. So, this is a kind of a convoluted 4713 03:22:08,239 --> 03:22:09,520 intersection, but 4714 03:22:09,520 --> 03:22:11,429 >> is coming in. 4715 03:22:11,429 --> 03:22:11,439 » is coming in. 4716 03:22:11,439 --> 03:22:13,990 >> Well, I said was applied for funding. I 4717 03:22:13,990 --> 03:22:14,000 » Well, I said was applied for funding. I 4718 03:22:14,000 --> 03:22:15,120 shouldn't shouldn't have said that. 4719 03:22:15,120 --> 03:22:15,600 Thank you. 4720 03:22:15,600 --> 03:22:18,309 >> Well, my my steak dinner joke is is just 4721 03:22:18,309 --> 03:22:18,319 » Well, my my steak dinner joke is is just 4722 03:22:18,319 --> 03:22:19,439 a joke as well. Well, I don't actually 4723 03:22:19,439 --> 03:22:21,875 mean to be offering anything, but 4724 03:22:21,875 --> 03:22:22,880 [clears throat] we're just trying to 4725 03:22:22,880 --> 03:22:25,120 figure out like to begin with, none of 4726 03:22:25,120 --> 03:22:28,160 the road work stuff was in this budget, 4727 03:22:28,160 --> 03:22:30,560 and we have never seen 4728 03:22:30,560 --> 03:22:32,720 this 10-year [clears throat] plan until 4729 03:22:32,720 --> 03:22:34,880 very recently that has been in existence 4730 03:22:34,880 --> 03:22:37,840 for a long time. So, we're trying to 4731 03:22:37,840 --> 03:22:39,840 play catch-up as a council a little bit 4732 03:22:39,840 --> 03:22:41,439 because we've been in the dark and not 4733 03:22:41,439 --> 03:22:44,960 have the information that we need. So, 4734 03:22:44,960 --> 03:22:47,680 what is the fastest way we can get this 4735 03:22:47,680 --> 03:22:50,960 moving and the the next project that 4736 03:22:50,960 --> 03:22:52,160 we're about to talk about as well? 4737 03:22:52,160 --> 03:22:54,399 What's the fastest way we can get at 4738 03:22:54,399 --> 03:22:56,239 least lights there, if not the expansion 4739 03:22:56,239 --> 03:22:58,080 done, what's the next what we need? We 4740 03:22:58,080 --> 03:22:59,760 need step 1 2 3 4 5. That's what we 4741 03:22:59,760 --> 03:23:00,160 need. 4742 03:23:00,160 --> 03:23:00,790 >> So, 4743 03:23:00,790 --> 03:23:00,800 » So, 4744 03:23:00,800 --> 03:23:02,469 >> even if it's not right this minute, I'm 4745 03:23:02,469 --> 03:23:02,479 » even if it's not right this minute, I'm 4746 03:23:02,479 --> 03:23:03,279 not sure, you know. 4747 03:23:03,279 --> 03:23:05,429 >> And I think you were actually gone on 4748 03:23:05,429 --> 03:23:05,439 » And I think you were actually gone on 4749 03:23:05,439 --> 03:23:07,120 Were you gone at the meeting in June 4750 03:23:07,120 --> 03:23:08,160 when I gave the 4751 03:23:08,160 --> 03:23:08,950 >> Oh, yeah. You were. 4752 03:23:08,950 --> 03:23:08,960 » Oh, yeah. You were. 4753 03:23:08,960 --> 03:23:09,830 >> And I think 4754 03:23:09,830 --> 03:23:09,840 » And I think 4755 03:23:09,840 --> 03:23:10,550 >> June 1st. 4756 03:23:10,550 --> 03:23:10,560 » June 1st. 4757 03:23:10,560 --> 03:23:11,030 >> Yes, sir. 4758 03:23:11,030 --> 03:23:11,040 » Yes, sir. 4759 03:23:11,040 --> 03:23:13,190 >> Yeah. I because I laid it out. I did. I 4760 03:23:13,190 --> 03:23:13,200 » Yeah. I because I laid it out. I did. I 4761 03:23:13,200 --> 03:23:14,640 said [clears throat] year 1, year two, 4762 03:23:14,640 --> 03:23:16,720 year three. Let me get you that. But 4763 03:23:16,720 --> 03:23:18,790 >> well, I get the year parts, but what we 4764 03:23:18,790 --> 03:23:18,800 » well, I get the year parts, but what we 4765 03:23:18,800 --> 03:23:20,239 need to know like which conversation we 4766 03:23:20,239 --> 03:23:21,520 need to have next. You know what I mean? 4767 03:23:21,520 --> 03:23:22,389 >> Yes, sir. No, I understand. 4768 03:23:22,389 --> 03:23:22,399 » Yes, sir. No, I understand. 4769 03:23:22,399 --> 03:23:24,070 >> We need to go very basic one by one. 4770 03:23:24,070 --> 03:23:24,080 » We need to go very basic one by one. 4771 03:23:24,080 --> 03:23:25,990 >> I understand. So, if we could if we 4772 03:23:25,990 --> 03:23:26,000 » I understand. So, if we could if we 4773 03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:29,359 could get this funded for design and 4774 03:23:29,359 --> 03:23:32,160 agreement uh 4775 03:23:32,160 --> 03:23:34,720 preparation and ratification. There's 4776 03:23:34,720 --> 03:23:37,920 the whole transfer of uh or coordination 4777 03:23:37,920 --> 03:23:39,920 with the county that the mayor spoke to. 4778 03:23:39,920 --> 03:23:42,160 So there's county coordination necessary 4779 03:23:42,160 --> 03:23:43,590 >> and the county who are we dealing with 4780 03:23:43,590 --> 03:23:43,600 » and the county who are we dealing with 4781 03:23:43,600 --> 03:23:45,680 the county Manny directly or is it 4782 03:23:45,680 --> 03:23:46,399 somebody else? 4783 03:23:46,399 --> 03:23:48,389 >> The county commissioner is 4784 03:23:48,389 --> 03:23:48,399 » The county commissioner is 4785 03:23:48,399 --> 03:23:50,309 >> well it's not the county. We've been 4786 03:23:50,309 --> 03:23:50,319 » well it's not the county. We've been 4787 03:23:50,319 --> 03:23:54,960 speaking with the u county engineer 4788 03:23:54,960 --> 03:23:56,309 >> Mr. Jackson. 4789 03:23:56,309 --> 03:23:56,319 » Mr. Jackson. 4790 03:23:56,319 --> 03:23:59,750 >> Mr. Jackson ultimately you know any of 4791 03:23:59,750 --> 03:23:59,760 » Mr. Jackson ultimately you know any of 4792 03:23:59,760 --> 03:24:01,840 the commissioners have to go to Mr. 4793 03:24:01,840 --> 03:24:05,200 Jackson period and Mr. Jackson that's 4794 03:24:05,200 --> 03:24:06,960 who we've communicated with and they've 4795 03:24:06,960 --> 03:24:08,239 seen this design. Yes, 4796 03:24:08,239 --> 03:24:10,630 >> they had this design. They have our 4797 03:24:10,630 --> 03:24:10,640 » they had this design. They have our 4798 03:24:10,640 --> 03:24:14,399 request in early on early conversations 4799 03:24:14,399 --> 03:24:15,920 were 4800 03:24:15,920 --> 03:24:17,920 the city of Hasslet would like to make 4801 03:24:17,920 --> 03:24:21,279 that a four-way stop at minimum. We'll 4802 03:24:21,279 --> 03:24:23,439 pay for the stop signs. We'll pay for 4803 03:24:23,439 --> 03:24:25,439 the installation of it. Just give us 4804 03:24:25,439 --> 03:24:28,479 permission to do it. and the county 4805 03:24:28,479 --> 03:24:30,560 engineer wrote us a letter back and said 4806 03:24:30,560 --> 03:24:31,760 no 4807 03:24:31,760 --> 03:24:35,190 >> because in his opinion it will create 4808 03:24:35,190 --> 03:24:35,200 » because in his opinion it will create 4809 03:24:35,200 --> 03:24:38,880 more of a problem. 4810 03:24:38,880 --> 03:24:43,279 So there are various u departments 4811 03:24:43,279 --> 03:24:45,920 working through Tarant County that we 4812 03:24:45,920 --> 03:24:50,720 have to address this uh the 4813 03:24:50,720 --> 03:24:53,840 I've met with Commissioner Ramirez on 4814 03:24:53,840 --> 03:24:58,080 this. He has his plans 4815 03:24:58,080 --> 03:25:00,640 and told him of the need that we have. I 4816 03:25:00,640 --> 03:25:03,920 have met with H Commissioner Krauss. 4817 03:25:03,920 --> 03:25:06,720 They have this plan 4818 03:25:06,720 --> 03:25:09,760 and let them know of the needs that we 4819 03:25:09,760 --> 03:25:10,640 have. 4820 03:25:10,640 --> 03:25:11,750 >> What's their response? 4821 03:25:11,750 --> 03:25:11,760 » What's their response? 4822 03:25:11,760 --> 03:25:12,309 >> Pardon? 4823 03:25:12,309 --> 03:25:12,319 » Pardon? 4824 03:25:12,319 --> 03:25:13,990 >> What's their response? 4825 03:25:13,990 --> 03:25:14,000 » What's their response? 4826 03:25:14,000 --> 03:25:16,550 >> Haven't got one yet. And that's been 4827 03:25:16,550 --> 03:25:16,560 » Haven't got one yet. And that's been 4828 03:25:16,560 --> 03:25:18,239 many months ago. 4829 03:25:18,239 --> 03:25:19,990 >> Can we not reach back up? That was many 4830 03:25:19,990 --> 03:25:20,000 » Can we not reach back up? That was many 4831 03:25:20,000 --> 03:25:22,000 months ago. I mean, why are we not 4832 03:25:22,000 --> 03:25:24,399 reaching out to them again? Oh, well I 4833 03:25:24,399 --> 03:25:28,319 can, but we have uh we we are continuing 4834 03:25:28,319 --> 03:25:30,640 reaching out 4835 03:25:30,640 --> 03:25:32,560 and getting this in the different 4836 03:25:32,560 --> 03:25:35,439 department hands. So, we have it in two 4837 03:25:35,439 --> 03:25:37,680 county commissioners hands. We have it 4838 03:25:37,680 --> 03:25:42,319 in the uh county engineers hands and we 4839 03:25:42,319 --> 03:25:49,269 have it uh [clears throat] 4840 03:25:49,279 --> 03:25:52,000 there was a fourth party 4841 03:25:52,000 --> 03:25:56,000 I don't recall. Oh actually the the 4842 03:25:56,000 --> 03:26:00,790 precinct three crew 4843 03:26:00,800 --> 03:26:05,510 » and the city of forward. Yes. 4844 03:26:05,520 --> 03:26:08,800 So, uh it's not it's not uh due to a 4845 03:26:08,800 --> 03:26:11,920 lack of effort. 4846 03:26:11,920 --> 03:26:16,560 Um so we um maybe 4847 03:26:16,560 --> 03:26:19,439 uh now if the city of Hasslet were to 4848 03:26:19,439 --> 03:26:23,279 say we'll pay for every bit of that and 4849 03:26:23,279 --> 03:26:25,680 Mr. landowner we'll buy that right away 4850 03:26:25,680 --> 03:26:27,439 from you 4851 03:26:27,439 --> 03:26:29,359 etc etc. Of course that would enhance 4852 03:26:29,359 --> 03:26:31,359 his property. 4853 03:26:31,359 --> 03:26:37,830 uh then they might say yes. 4854 03:26:37,840 --> 03:26:41,279 It generally all boils down to money. 4855 03:26:41,279 --> 03:26:43,439 Well, we did ask the county that they do 4856 03:26:43,439 --> 03:26:49,910 the improvements on Blue Mountain Road. 4857 03:26:49,920 --> 03:26:51,600 » Um 4858 03:26:51,600 --> 03:26:55,040 Mr. Anderson, [clears throat] 4859 03:26:55,040 --> 03:26:57,349 >> the um 4860 03:26:57,349 --> 03:26:57,359 » the um 4861 03:26:57,359 --> 03:27:01,359 last last week we moved over um $1.3 4862 03:27:01,359 --> 03:27:04,319 million I think it was 4863 03:27:04,319 --> 03:27:06,640 um for the 4864 03:27:06,640 --> 03:27:10,720 uh Blue Mound 156 and then the uh Blue 4865 03:27:10,720 --> 03:27:13,359 Mound and John Day. Do you think that's 4866 03:27:13,359 --> 03:27:14,560 going to be adequate? Do we need more 4867 03:27:14,560 --> 03:27:16,640 money to get those two projects kind of 4868 03:27:16,640 --> 03:27:19,840 started and off the ground? because I 4869 03:27:19,840 --> 03:27:21,520 know we we could have started this a 4870 03:27:21,520 --> 03:27:23,120 couple years ago, but now we're kind of 4871 03:27:23,120 --> 03:27:24,960 backtracking, but is that going to be 4872 03:27:24,960 --> 03:27:27,120 enough money 1.3 to get both of those 4873 03:27:27,120 --> 03:27:31,040 going? Shows we have 975 for Blue 4874 03:27:31,040 --> 03:27:33,040 Mountain Intersection and 335 for John 4875 03:27:33,040 --> 03:27:35,680 Day. Do we need to allocate more money 4876 03:27:35,680 --> 03:27:38,560 so we can move ahead? 4877 03:27:38,560 --> 03:27:42,309 >> Well, I think uh we've got a total of uh 4878 03:27:42,309 --> 03:27:42,319 » Well, I think uh we've got a total of uh 4879 03:27:42,319 --> 03:27:44,640 my math's right here, 2.3 between the 4880 03:27:44,640 --> 03:27:47,359 two projects roughly. And so your ask 4881 03:27:47,359 --> 03:27:51,279 is, is 1.3 enough to get started? 4882 03:27:51,279 --> 03:27:55,110 >> Well, I got 1.3 from on this uh 975 and 4883 03:27:55,110 --> 03:27:55,120 » Well, I got 1.3 from on this uh 975 and 4884 03:27:55,120 --> 03:27:56,880 335, 4885 03:27:56,880 --> 03:27:58,710 >> but 4886 03:27:58,710 --> 03:27:58,720 » but 4887 03:27:58,720 --> 03:27:59,830 >> um 4888 03:27:59,830 --> 03:27:59,840 » um 4889 03:27:59,840 --> 03:28:03,990 >> Oh, well, the 975 and 335. Okay. 4890 03:28:03,990 --> 03:28:04,000 » Oh, well, the 975 and 335. Okay. 4891 03:28:04,000 --> 03:28:07,910 >> I I'm just so we're on the same page. Uh 4892 03:28:07,910 --> 03:28:07,920 » I I'm just so we're on the same page. Uh 4893 03:28:07,920 --> 03:28:10,880 it's $925,000 4894 03:28:10,880 --> 03:28:12,800 for this fiscal year 4895 03:28:12,800 --> 03:28:16,469 >> for the uh Blue Mountain Road FM 156 4896 03:28:16,469 --> 03:28:16,479 » for the uh Blue Mountain Road FM 156 4897 03:28:16,479 --> 03:28:17,040 work. 4898 03:28:17,040 --> 03:28:18,550 >> 975 4899 03:28:18,550 --> 03:28:18,560 » 975 4900 03:28:18,560 --> 03:28:19,750 >> 975 4901 03:28:19,750 --> 03:28:19,760 » 975 4902 03:28:19,760 --> 03:28:20,389 >> correct. 4903 03:28:20,389 --> 03:28:20,399 » correct. 4904 03:28:20,399 --> 03:28:24,550 >> All right. Now we have now on Mr. 4905 03:28:24,550 --> 03:28:24,560 » All right. Now we have now on Mr. 4906 03:28:24,560 --> 03:28:27,439 Anderson's worksheet here for Blue 4907 03:28:27,439 --> 03:28:30,319 Mountain Road and John Day Road, he has 4908 03:28:30,319 --> 03:28:33,120 1,425,000. 4909 03:28:33,120 --> 03:28:36,550 >> Correct. We have budgeted 335,000. 4910 03:28:36,550 --> 03:28:36,560 » Correct. We have budgeted 335,000. 4911 03:28:36,560 --> 03:28:38,710 >> Right above the Blue Mountain Road 975 4912 03:28:38,710 --> 03:28:38,720 » Right above the Blue Mountain Road 975 4913 03:28:38,720 --> 03:28:39,920 says 1.425 4914 03:28:39,920 --> 03:28:42,070 >> Blue Mail. Okay. There's two. What's the 4915 03:28:42,070 --> 03:28:42,080 » Blue Mail. Okay. There's two. What's the 4916 03:28:42,080 --> 03:28:42,560 difference? 4917 03:28:42,560 --> 03:28:44,229 >> One's a schematic design and one is the 4918 03:28:44,229 --> 03:28:44,239 » One's a schematic design and one is the 4919 03:28:44,239 --> 03:28:45,359 intersection improvement 4920 03:28:45,359 --> 03:28:46,389 >> designed Blue Mail Road 4921 03:28:46,389 --> 03:28:46,399 » designed Blue Mail Road 4922 03:28:46,399 --> 03:28:48,950 >> and the 335 of the schematic design is 4923 03:28:48,950 --> 03:28:48,960 » and the 335 of the schematic design is 4924 03:28:48,960 --> 03:28:51,840 what we're hoping to to get from the 4925 03:28:51,840 --> 03:28:53,680 escrow, but if not, we have it budgeted 4926 03:28:53,680 --> 03:28:56,160 in case we need to use it. 4927 03:28:56,160 --> 03:28:58,150 >> This was all last last Saturday. Um 4928 03:28:58,150 --> 03:28:58,160 » This was all last last Saturday. Um 4929 03:28:58,160 --> 03:28:58,800 Chris 4930 03:28:58,800 --> 03:29:00,389 >> Mayor 4931 03:29:00,389 --> 03:29:00,399 » Mayor 4932 03:29:00,399 --> 03:29:03,830 >> Mayor, I'm over here. Sorry. Um, can I 4933 03:29:03,830 --> 03:29:03,840 » Mayor, I'm over here. Sorry. Um, can I 4934 03:29:03,840 --> 03:29:05,520 suggest that on this general fund 4935 03:29:05,520 --> 03:29:07,600 capital outlay, we actually make a 4936 03:29:07,600 --> 03:29:11,040 notation to the project names? So like, 4937 03:29:11,040 --> 03:29:12,800 um, 4938 03:29:12,800 --> 03:29:14,800 design Bluebound Road West at John Day 4939 03:29:14,800 --> 03:29:16,960 intersection. If we could put SD2 right 4940 03:29:16,960 --> 03:29:18,479 next to it. 4941 03:29:18,479 --> 03:29:23,990 >> Oh, okay. Are you perfect? Thank you. 4942 03:29:24,000 --> 03:29:25,760 » And I've got a column that correlates 4943 03:29:25,760 --> 03:29:27,439 back to Miss Marcy's once the project 4944 03:29:27,439 --> 03:29:30,249 number gets established. Okay. 4945 03:29:30,249 --> 03:29:30,800 [clears throat] 4946 03:29:30,800 --> 03:29:34,070 >> What else? 4947 03:29:34,080 --> 03:29:37,439 Okay. So, so Blound Road at John Day 4948 03:29:37,439 --> 03:29:41,200 Road, Blue Mound Road at FM 156, those 4949 03:29:41,200 --> 03:29:44,239 are projects SD1 and SD2. It sounds like 4950 03:29:44,239 --> 03:29:45,600 everybody wants to move forward with 4951 03:29:45,600 --> 03:29:47,760 those two projects this next next fiscal 4952 03:29:47,760 --> 03:29:48,479 year. 4953 03:29:48,479 --> 03:29:48,950 >> Yes, 4954 03:29:48,950 --> 03:29:48,960 » Yes, 4955 03:29:48,960 --> 03:29:52,389 >> Mr. Kathers, what I can do is as we give 4956 03:29:52,389 --> 03:29:52,399 » Mr. Kathers, what I can do is as we give 4957 03:29:52,399 --> 03:29:54,160 me the next few weeks, I could put 4958 03:29:54,160 --> 03:29:55,840 together a little action plan or 4959 03:29:55,840 --> 03:29:57,840 recommended steps because there's a lot 4960 03:29:57,840 --> 03:29:59,359 of moving parts with both of these 4961 03:29:59,359 --> 03:30:01,920 projects. maybe make a list of all the 4962 03:30:01,920 --> 03:30:04,640 things associated with each one and we 4963 03:30:04,640 --> 03:30:06,800 can have that as a presentation and an 4964 03:30:06,800 --> 03:30:07,439 update. 4965 03:30:07,439 --> 03:30:09,429 >> I mean, also if we even need to go as 4966 03:30:09,429 --> 03:30:09,439 » I mean, also if we even need to go as 4967 03:30:09,439 --> 03:30:11,359 far as getting parents to email the 4968 03:30:11,359 --> 03:30:13,760 county commissioner, you know, I mean, 4969 03:30:13,760 --> 03:30:16,319 because parents are screaming, "Please, 4970 03:30:16,319 --> 03:30:18,000 please, please help us with this road 4971 03:30:18,000 --> 03:30:20,800 every day." And it's school starts what, 4972 03:30:20,800 --> 03:30:23,120 in 4 days, you're going to hear a whole 4973 03:30:23,120 --> 03:30:24,479 I mean, not you, 4974 03:30:24,479 --> 03:30:25,910 >> but all of us are going to hear a whole 4975 03:30:25,910 --> 03:30:25,920 » but all of us are going to hear a whole 4976 03:30:25,920 --> 03:30:27,840 lot Yeah. a lot of complaints because 4977 03:30:27,840 --> 03:30:28,960 all of a sudden the traffic's going to 4978 03:30:28,960 --> 03:30:30,800 get a hundred times worse when everyone 4979 03:30:30,800 --> 03:30:32,476 starts going back to school again. 4980 03:30:32,476 --> 03:30:34,960 [clears throat] So, if we need to get 4981 03:30:34,960 --> 03:30:38,399 people to, you know, at least [snorts] 4982 03:30:38,399 --> 03:30:41,120 put their input publicly to get 4983 03:30:41,120 --> 03:30:44,000 residents and parents and school and 4984 03:30:44,000 --> 03:30:47,200 whoever to, you know, try to help build 4985 03:30:47,200 --> 03:30:48,319 a case for this, 4986 03:30:48,319 --> 03:30:50,550 >> then we need to know that, too, because 4987 03:30:50,550 --> 03:30:50,560 » then we need to know that, too, because 4988 03:30:50,560 --> 03:30:52,239 we want to do it in an appropriate way, 4989 03:30:52,239 --> 03:30:54,319 not in a let's yell and scream and throw 4990 03:30:54,319 --> 03:30:55,439 rocks way. You know what I mean? 4991 03:30:55,439 --> 03:30:56,469 >> Yes, sir. So 4992 03:30:56,469 --> 03:30:56,479 » Yes, sir. So 4993 03:30:56,479 --> 03:30:59,429 >> let me say well that that will be a 4994 03:30:59,429 --> 03:30:59,439 » let me say well that that will be a 4995 03:30:59,439 --> 03:31:04,239 council action a a a community 4996 03:31:04,239 --> 03:31:07,760 uh activation towards that has 4997 03:31:07,760 --> 03:31:11,840 engineering has no play in that 4998 03:31:11,840 --> 03:31:13,510 >> but but if we don't have willingness on 4999 03:31:13,510 --> 03:31:13,520 » but but if we don't have willingness on 5000 03:31:13,520 --> 03:31:15,840 all sides of this conversation we need 5001 03:31:15,840 --> 03:31:17,760 to raise our case a little bit. 5002 03:31:17,760 --> 03:31:19,510 >> Yeah I don't no one's going to come in 5003 03:31:19,510 --> 03:31:19,520 » Yeah I don't no one's going to come in 5004 03:31:19,520 --> 03:31:21,120 no one's going to come engineer this 5005 03:31:21,120 --> 03:31:22,479 project no one's going to come in and 5006 03:31:22,479 --> 03:31:24,720 start the rideway acquisition project. I 5007 03:31:24,720 --> 03:31:27,120 think we will be able to identify some 5008 03:31:27,120 --> 03:31:28,880 funding partners for the construction of 5009 03:31:28,880 --> 03:31:31,120 it. The mayor's already spoke to the 5010 03:31:31,120 --> 03:31:34,479 discussion that is ongoing about county 5011 03:31:34,479 --> 03:31:37,200 forces possibly constructing some of 5012 03:31:37,200 --> 03:31:39,760 both of these projects, but the the 5013 03:31:39,760 --> 03:31:41,439 heavy lifting on the front end is going 5014 03:31:41,439 --> 03:31:43,439 to have to be done now. We've we've had 5015 03:31:43,439 --> 03:31:45,520 these concepts, you know, put together 5016 03:31:45,520 --> 03:31:48,479 for oh, probably a year, but there there 5017 03:31:48,479 --> 03:31:50,399 was other than this concept plan, there 5018 03:31:50,399 --> 03:31:52,880 was no money behind it to actually get 5019 03:31:52,880 --> 03:31:54,479 the detailed work [clears throat] done 5020 03:31:54,479 --> 03:31:56,880 and start through that process because 5021 03:31:56,880 --> 03:31:58,960 once all that gets done, and we have 5022 03:31:58,960 --> 03:32:01,040 probably five or six agreements per 5023 03:32:01,040 --> 03:32:03,040 intersection, then we have to go move 5024 03:32:03,040 --> 03:32:04,960 all these utilities. And so it's going 5025 03:32:04,960 --> 03:32:08,239 to be a it will be a heavy two-year 5026 03:32:08,239 --> 03:32:10,720 project uh on the soft cost side of 5027 03:32:10,720 --> 03:32:12,720 things to get really minimal 5028 03:32:12,720 --> 03:32:14,399 improvements built. But I I do 5029 03:32:14,399 --> 03:32:16,239 understand what you're saying. And let 5030 03:32:16,239 --> 03:32:18,960 me go back and see if there's a way cuz 5031 03:32:18,960 --> 03:32:21,600 u one of the things that I know was 5032 03:32:21,600 --> 03:32:24,720 important at John Day Road in 156 and 5033 03:32:24,720 --> 03:32:27,439 probably still is is the the inability 5034 03:32:27,439 --> 03:32:29,920 for folks to get out onto Blue Mountain 5035 03:32:29,920 --> 03:32:33,040 Road. Yes. And so to your point about 5036 03:32:33,040 --> 03:32:35,760 trying to get some interim relief there, 5037 03:32:35,760 --> 03:32:37,680 let me see if I can go figure out a way 5038 03:32:37,680 --> 03:32:40,399 to, you know, the lapel folks are on the 5039 03:32:40,399 --> 03:32:43,040 hook for that signal 100%. That's what's 5040 03:32:43,040 --> 03:32:44,960 in the agreement. So there's no cost 5041 03:32:44,960 --> 03:32:47,680 share deep divvying up of those 5042 03:32:47,680 --> 03:32:49,680 improvements. Does that make sense? The 5043 03:32:49,680 --> 03:32:51,840 the turn lanes and everything, those are 5044 03:32:51,840 --> 03:32:54,239 all we got to sort through those. But 5045 03:32:54,239 --> 03:32:56,080 maybe there's a way we can look at 5046 03:32:56,080 --> 03:32:58,080 trying to accelerate the signal 5047 03:32:58,080 --> 03:33:00,160 improvements through the funding by 5048 03:33:00,160 --> 03:33:02,560 lapel while we sort through all these 5049 03:33:02,560 --> 03:33:04,399 other things. Does that make sense? 5050 03:33:04,399 --> 03:33:06,790 >> Yeah. I mean, just this last week, I 5051 03:33:06,790 --> 03:33:06,800 » Yeah. I mean, just this last week, I 5052 03:33:06,800 --> 03:33:08,399 mean, I had to go to a parent meeting, 5053 03:33:08,399 --> 03:33:10,000 what was it, Thursday night, and it was 5054 03:33:10,000 --> 03:33:11,439 just for athletics. 5055 03:33:11,439 --> 03:33:13,990 >> And when that meeting got got out, 5056 03:33:13,990 --> 03:33:14,000 » And when that meeting got got out, 5057 03:33:14,000 --> 03:33:15,830 >> John Day was backed up from Blue Mound 5058 03:33:15,830 --> 03:33:15,840 » John Day was backed up from Blue Mound 5059 03:33:15,840 --> 03:33:18,239 all the way back to Lera, just for that 5060 03:33:18,239 --> 03:33:19,200 one meeting. 5061 03:33:19,200 --> 03:33:21,349 >> That's not even a third of the school. 5062 03:33:21,349 --> 03:33:21,359 » That's not even a third of the school. 5063 03:33:21,359 --> 03:33:22,710 >> And that's only the middle school. I 5064 03:33:22,710 --> 03:33:22,720 » And that's only the middle school. I 5065 03:33:22,720 --> 03:33:24,239 don't even count the elementary school. 5066 03:33:24,239 --> 03:33:26,150 >> And I want to clarify as well. So the ll 5067 03:33:26,150 --> 03:33:26,160 » And I want to clarify as well. So the ll 5068 03:33:26,160 --> 03:33:29,840 agreement is is back. It's in effect. 5069 03:33:29,840 --> 03:33:31,120 Everything's fine with that. 5070 03:33:31,120 --> 03:33:31,910 >> Yes, ma'am. 5071 03:33:31,910 --> 03:33:31,920 » Yes, ma'am. 5072 03:33:31,920 --> 03:33:32,309 >> Okay. 5073 03:33:32,309 --> 03:33:32,319 » Okay. 5074 03:33:32,319 --> 03:33:34,229 >> That was an agreement between the city 5075 03:33:34,229 --> 03:33:34,239 » That was an agreement between the city 5076 03:33:34,239 --> 03:33:34,720 of 5077 03:33:34,720 --> 03:33:36,229 >> what it was. I know what happened to it. 5078 03:33:36,229 --> 03:33:36,239 » what it was. I know what happened to it. 5079 03:33:36,239 --> 03:33:38,479 And I know so it's it's everything's 5080 03:33:38,479 --> 03:33:40,080 good again with lapel agreement. 5081 03:33:40,080 --> 03:33:41,269 >> Correct. Yes, ma'am. 5082 03:33:41,269 --> 03:33:41,279 » Correct. Yes, ma'am. 5083 03:33:41,279 --> 03:33:41,670 >> Okay. 5084 03:33:41,670 --> 03:33:41,680 » Okay. 5085 03:33:41,680 --> 03:33:44,309 >> Now you're there was the original lapel 5086 03:33:44,309 --> 03:33:44,319 » Now you're there was the original lapel 5087 03:33:44,319 --> 03:33:46,160 agreement. This this the the agreement 5088 03:33:46,160 --> 03:33:48,560 that I'm speaking of is the one with 5089 03:33:48,560 --> 03:33:51,279 Trioint Homes, the current homebuilder 5090 03:33:51,279 --> 03:33:52,800 developer. So, not the original. 5091 03:33:52,800 --> 03:33:54,150 >> Not the original one. So, I misspoke 5092 03:33:54,150 --> 03:33:54,160 » Not the original one. So, I misspoke 5093 03:33:54,160 --> 03:33:54,720 there. I'm sorry. 5094 03:33:54,720 --> 03:33:56,070 >> Okay. Thank you. 5095 03:33:56,070 --> 03:33:56,080 » Okay. Thank you. 5096 03:33:56,080 --> 03:33:57,590 >> The original one is not back on the 5097 03:33:57,590 --> 03:33:57,600 » The original one is not back on the 5098 03:33:57,600 --> 03:33:58,000 table. 5099 03:33:58,000 --> 03:34:00,229 >> Okay. Thank you. 5100 03:34:00,229 --> 03:34:00,239 » Okay. Thank you. 5101 03:34:00,239 --> 03:34:03,429 >> Uh I want to uh it doesn't solve any 5102 03:34:03,429 --> 03:34:03,439 » Uh I want to uh it doesn't solve any 5103 03:34:03,439 --> 03:34:06,239 long range problems, but uh Tarant 5104 03:34:06,239 --> 03:34:07,760 County Sheriff's Department is going to 5105 03:34:07,760 --> 03:34:09,680 have deputies at these intersections 5106 03:34:09,680 --> 03:34:13,520 here and on the other end at Jonte Road 5107 03:34:13,520 --> 03:34:16,319 and Abidel Hasset Road for the first 5108 03:34:16,319 --> 03:34:18,560 week of school just to help. 5109 03:34:18,560 --> 03:34:19,910 >> Are they going to direct traffic? 5110 03:34:19,910 --> 03:34:19,920 » Are they going to direct traffic? 5111 03:34:19,920 --> 03:34:20,389 >> Yes. 5112 03:34:20,389 --> 03:34:20,399 » Yes. 5113 03:34:20,399 --> 03:34:21,830 >> That would be amazing. the high school 5114 03:34:21,830 --> 03:34:21,840 » That would be amazing. the high school 5115 03:34:21,840 --> 03:34:23,680 too the first week of school. 5116 03:34:23,680 --> 03:34:25,110 >> I know they didn't at other places, but 5117 03:34:25,110 --> 03:34:25,120 » I know they didn't at other places, but 5118 03:34:25,120 --> 03:34:25,600 they do. 5119 03:34:25,600 --> 03:34:27,110 >> But they're going to do it here on both 5120 03:34:27,110 --> 03:34:27,120 » But they're going to do it here on both 5121 03:34:27,120 --> 03:34:28,720 ends of John Day Road. 5122 03:34:28,720 --> 03:34:33,910 >> That'd be amazing. Thank you. 5123 03:34:33,920 --> 03:34:35,200 » All right, moving on. 5124 03:34:35,200 --> 03:34:35,750 >> Yes, sir. 5125 03:34:35,750 --> 03:34:35,760 » Yes, sir. 5126 03:34:35,760 --> 03:34:37,510 >> I'm going to go back to mine. 5127 03:34:37,510 --> 03:34:37,520 » I'm going to go back to mine. 5128 03:34:37,520 --> 03:34:42,630 >> Yes, sir. 5129 03:34:42,640 --> 03:34:44,479 » Are you done? 5130 03:34:44,479 --> 03:34:46,070 >> No, I was I think he was wanting to pull 5131 03:34:46,070 --> 03:34:46,080 » No, I was I think he was wanting to pull 5132 03:34:46,080 --> 03:34:46,800 up his 5133 03:34:46,800 --> 03:34:48,870 >> There you are. I mean, you're done with 5134 03:34:48,870 --> 03:34:48,880 » There you are. I mean, you're done with 5135 03:34:48,880 --> 03:34:50,399 John Day Road, right? Yes, sir. 5136 03:34:50,399 --> 03:34:52,389 >> Okay. 5137 03:34:52,389 --> 03:34:52,399 » Okay. 5138 03:34:52,399 --> 03:34:56,479 I would like to uh skip project S3 and 5139 03:34:56,479 --> 03:34:59,120 talk about project S4 just real quick 5140 03:34:59,120 --> 03:35:00,800 since we're talking Blue Mountain Road. 5141 03:35:00,800 --> 03:35:01,600 Okay. 5142 03:35:01,600 --> 03:35:05,590 >> Um we had put together a 5143 03:35:05,590 --> 03:35:05,600 » Um we had put together a 5144 03:35:05,600 --> 03:35:07,840 scope of work to get the Blue Mountain 5145 03:35:07,840 --> 03:35:10,640 Road 100% schematic done from one end to 5146 03:35:10,640 --> 03:35:14,000 the other. Uh that 335 5147 03:35:14,000 --> 03:35:16,560 we had anticipated being able to use 5148 03:35:16,560 --> 03:35:20,239 those escrow funds. That's obviously at 5149 03:35:20,239 --> 03:35:22,880 this point been determined not to be um 5150 03:35:22,880 --> 03:35:25,439 a viable option for funding, but if 5151 03:35:25,439 --> 03:35:27,520 you'd like to move forward with that, 5152 03:35:27,520 --> 03:35:30,080 that's needs to be in here somewhere. 5153 03:35:30,080 --> 03:35:32,239 But it sounds like that was handled. 5154 03:35:32,239 --> 03:35:33,279 Okay. 5155 03:35:33,279 --> 03:35:35,830 >> Okay. So, I've got that one marked. 5156 03:35:35,830 --> 03:35:35,840 » Okay. So, I've got that one marked. 5157 03:35:35,840 --> 03:35:37,439 Okay. Okay. 5158 03:35:37,439 --> 03:35:39,510 >> What is What's Blue Mound Ultimate? Is 5159 03:35:39,510 --> 03:35:39,520 » What is What's Blue Mound Ultimate? Is 5160 03:35:39,520 --> 03:35:40,560 that the whole road? 5161 03:35:40,560 --> 03:35:42,229 >> Yes. Or that's the schematic design from 5162 03:35:42,229 --> 03:35:42,239 » Yes. Or that's the schematic design from 5163 03:35:42,239 --> 03:35:43,600 one end to the other. Okay. 5164 03:35:43,600 --> 03:35:45,030 >> For [clears throat] the for the large 5165 03:35:45,030 --> 03:35:45,040 » For [clears throat] the for the large 5166 03:35:45,040 --> 03:35:46,399 ultimate project. 5167 03:35:46,399 --> 03:35:48,630 >> Okay. You got 1.4 million there so that 5168 03:35:48,630 --> 03:35:48,640 » Okay. You got 1.4 million there so that 5169 03:35:48,640 --> 03:35:57,590 we can cover both SD3 and 5170 03:35:57,600 --> 03:36:01,920 » SD one two and four. 5171 03:36:01,920 --> 03:36:03,349 >> We skipped three. We're 5172 03:36:03,349 --> 03:36:03,359 » We skipped three. We're 5173 03:36:03,359 --> 03:36:04,469 >> sorry. 5174 03:36:04,469 --> 03:36:04,479 » sorry. 5175 03:36:04,479 --> 03:36:07,349 >> Zach was asking about clarification on 5176 03:36:07,349 --> 03:36:07,359 » Zach was asking about clarification on 5177 03:36:07,359 --> 03:36:09,670 >> Yeah, but we have the 335 or whatever it 5178 03:36:09,670 --> 03:36:09,680 » Yeah, but we have the 335 or whatever it 5179 03:36:09,680 --> 03:36:11,359 is for SD4 in the in the budget, 5180 03:36:11,359 --> 03:36:12,560 correct? That y'all just said. Okay. 5181 03:36:12,560 --> 03:36:14,469 >> Yes. 5182 03:36:14,469 --> 03:36:14,479 » Yes. 5183 03:36:14,479 --> 03:36:16,150 >> Okay. 5184 03:36:16,150 --> 03:36:16,160 » Okay. 5185 03:36:16,160 --> 03:36:18,239 So, we're gonna now we're going to get 5186 03:36:18,239 --> 03:36:19,600 back in order here and we're going to 5187 03:36:19,600 --> 03:36:26,710 talk about inter modal. 5188 03:36:26,720 --> 03:36:28,960 » So many pages. 5189 03:36:28,960 --> 03:36:38,070 >> So many pages. 5190 03:36:38,080 --> 03:36:41,200 » Yeah, I will. I just he was going over 5191 03:36:41,200 --> 03:36:44,640 the SD12 and four which we did talk 5192 03:36:44,640 --> 03:36:46,720 about last Saturday and had put back in 5193 03:36:46,720 --> 03:36:49,120 the budget. There was a design for Blue 5194 03:36:49,120 --> 03:36:52,080 Mountain Road at 1.425, 5195 03:36:52,080 --> 03:36:53,600 the Blue Mountain Road intersection 5196 03:36:53,600 --> 03:36:56,319 design at 975 and then the schematic at 5197 03:36:56,319 --> 03:37:00,720 335. So SD1, SD2, and SD4 5198 03:37:00,720 --> 03:37:02,389 >> have been discussed. 5199 03:37:02,389 --> 03:37:02,399 » have been discussed. 5200 03:37:02,399 --> 03:37:07,349 >> Oh no. Bye bye. 5201 03:37:07,359 --> 03:37:09,359 » And I'm sorry just to clarify. So SD 5202 03:37:09,359 --> 03:37:10,880 one, two, three, and four. I think we 5203 03:37:10,880 --> 03:37:12,560 all had funded last meeting. Correct. 5204 03:37:12,560 --> 03:37:15,269 >> Three. You haven't talked about 5205 03:37:15,269 --> 03:37:15,279 » Three. You haven't talked about 5206 03:37:15,279 --> 03:37:17,190 >> we haven't talked about three. 5207 03:37:17,190 --> 03:37:17,200 » we haven't talked about three. 5208 03:37:17,200 --> 03:37:18,469 >> Oh, we just haven't talked about three. 5209 03:37:18,469 --> 03:37:18,479 » Oh, we just haven't talked about three. 5210 03:37:18,479 --> 03:37:18,720 Correct. 5211 03:37:18,720 --> 03:37:21,110 >> We skipped want to skip three. 5212 03:37:21,110 --> 03:37:21,120 » We skipped want to skip three. 5213 03:37:21,120 --> 03:37:22,870 >> Why? Why are you skipping three? 5214 03:37:22,870 --> 03:37:22,880 » Why? Why are you skipping three? 5215 03:37:22,880 --> 03:37:25,030 >> Because I You had said you wanted to 5216 03:37:25,030 --> 03:37:25,040 » Because I You had said you wanted to 5217 03:37:25,040 --> 03:37:26,800 talk about three. So here 5218 03:37:26,800 --> 03:37:28,630 >> I've got an exhibit up here to see if we 5219 03:37:28,630 --> 03:37:28,640 » I've got an exhibit up here to see if we 5220 03:37:28,640 --> 03:37:31,279 can walk through Interotal Parkway real 5221 03:37:31,279 --> 03:37:31,840 quick. 5222 03:37:31,840 --> 03:37:34,550 >> Thank you. So what we've got here and I 5223 03:37:34,550 --> 03:37:34,560 » Thank you. So what we've got here and I 5224 03:37:34,560 --> 03:37:36,160 I can't remember if I've shared this 5225 03:37:36,160 --> 03:37:37,840 exhibit with you or not, but what we 5226 03:37:37,840 --> 03:37:40,800 have is a inter modal parkway from 5227 03:37:40,800 --> 03:37:42,399 Hasset Parkway clear down to Blue 5228 03:37:42,399 --> 03:37:44,960 Mountain Road. And my understanding of 5229 03:37:44,960 --> 03:37:48,000 the project as it exists today is that 5230 03:37:48,000 --> 03:37:50,800 we've got currently funded in this 5231 03:37:50,800 --> 03:37:52,960 budget that we're in right now $1.1 5232 03:37:52,960 --> 03:37:54,720 million 5233 03:37:54,720 --> 03:37:57,760 for the fourth leg of the traffic signal 5234 03:37:57,760 --> 03:38:00,800 and then the design and construction of 5235 03:38:00,800 --> 03:38:02,960 this yellow pavement. 5236 03:38:02,960 --> 03:38:03,910 >> I don't see that in here. 5237 03:38:03,910 --> 03:38:03,920 » I don't see that in here. 5238 03:38:03,920 --> 03:38:06,389 >> The western the western concrete 5239 03:38:06,389 --> 03:38:06,399 » The western the western concrete 5240 03:38:06,399 --> 03:38:07,110 >> is it in here? 5241 03:38:07,110 --> 03:38:07,120 » is it in here? 5242 03:38:07,120 --> 03:38:09,429 >> It's in here and it's 1.135 because you 5243 03:38:09,429 --> 03:38:09,439 » It's in here and it's 1.135 because you 5244 03:38:09,439 --> 03:38:11,600 asked for an extra 35. So we have that 5245 03:38:11,600 --> 03:38:13,439 fully funded. Do you see that? 5246 03:38:13,439 --> 03:38:15,670 >> It's um right under street improvements 5247 03:38:15,670 --> 03:38:15,680 » It's um right under street improvements 5248 03:38:15,680 --> 03:38:17,279 first 5249 03:38:17,279 --> 03:38:19,200 number. 5250 03:38:19,200 --> 03:38:21,600 Do you see it? We did 1.1 5251 03:38:21,600 --> 03:38:22,710 >> 35,000. 5252 03:38:22,710 --> 03:38:22,720 » 35,000. 5253 03:38:22,720 --> 03:38:25,349 >> We're carry for and we're carrying over 5254 03:38:25,349 --> 03:38:25,359 » We're carry for and we're carrying over 5255 03:38:25,359 --> 03:38:26,239 the one. Got it. 5256 03:38:26,239 --> 03:38:29,590 >> Thank you. 5257 03:38:29,600 --> 03:38:30,960 » Yes, ma'am. Got it. 5258 03:38:30,960 --> 03:38:33,590 >> Okay. Thank you. 5259 03:38:33,590 --> 03:38:33,600 » Okay. Thank you. 5260 03:38:33,600 --> 03:38:36,150 >> Okay. And can you clarify? Is this phase 5261 03:38:36,150 --> 03:38:36,160 » Okay. And can you clarify? Is this phase 5262 03:38:36,160 --> 03:38:38,479 two? I know I called it phase one, which 5263 03:38:38,479 --> 03:38:39,760 is where I think we got in the 5264 03:38:39,760 --> 03:38:40,399 confusion. 5265 03:38:40,399 --> 03:38:42,950 >> Go ahead. We're going to I think there's 5266 03:38:42,950 --> 03:38:42,960 » Go ahead. We're going to I think there's 5267 03:38:42,960 --> 03:38:44,399 Let me let me walk you through a couple 5268 03:38:44,399 --> 03:38:45,920 and there's only there's certain things 5269 03:38:45,920 --> 03:38:47,200 I'm going to need to tell you at the 5270 03:38:47,200 --> 03:38:48,960 next council meeting. Okay. 5271 03:38:48,960 --> 03:38:51,110 >> As it relates to rideway, 5272 03:38:51,110 --> 03:38:51,120 » As it relates to rideway, 5273 03:38:51,120 --> 03:38:54,229 >> um this project right now in yellow is 5274 03:38:54,229 --> 03:38:54,239 » um this project right now in yellow is 5275 03:38:54,239 --> 03:38:56,640 under design. We'll bring you plans for 5276 03:38:56,640 --> 03:38:59,680 presentation 60% plans. At the council 5277 03:38:59,680 --> 03:39:00,800 meeting, we're also going to bring you 5278 03:39:00,800 --> 03:39:02,640 back an update on the rightway. 5279 03:39:02,640 --> 03:39:05,190 >> Okay. Now, the reason there there's 5280 03:39:05,190 --> 03:39:05,200 » Okay. Now, the reason there there's 5281 03:39:05,200 --> 03:39:06,870 >> rightway of the yellow or rightway of 5282 03:39:06,870 --> 03:39:06,880 » rightway of the yellow or rightway of 5283 03:39:06,880 --> 03:39:07,600 all 5284 03:39:07,600 --> 03:39:09,670 >> um right away for yellow. 5285 03:39:09,670 --> 03:39:09,680 » um right away for yellow. 5286 03:39:09,680 --> 03:39:14,950 >> Okay. Okay. Um the reason that um 5287 03:39:14,950 --> 03:39:14,960 » Okay. Okay. Um the reason that um 5288 03:39:14,960 --> 03:39:16,960 so so right now we got phase one in 5289 03:39:16,960 --> 03:39:19,760 yellow and then phase two naturally 5290 03:39:19,760 --> 03:39:22,239 would be some sort of continuation of 5291 03:39:22,239 --> 03:39:24,399 the project down to Blue Mountain Road. 5292 03:39:24,399 --> 03:39:28,479 Okay. Now what we may need to discuss or 5293 03:39:28,479 --> 03:39:31,600 what we will discuss with you would be 5294 03:39:31,600 --> 03:39:36,160 um if there are rightway acquisition 5295 03:39:36,160 --> 03:39:39,680 um delays or uh we're not able to 5296 03:39:39,680 --> 03:39:45,439 acquire rightaway there is a solution 5297 03:39:45,439 --> 03:39:48,160 and I'm going to do this the best I can. 5298 03:39:48,160 --> 03:39:50,880 I'm not real good at drawing stuff but 5299 03:39:50,880 --> 03:39:52,800 where my red box is that's the right way 5300 03:39:52,800 --> 03:39:55,680 we need. Okay. If for whatever reason 5301 03:39:55,680 --> 03:39:58,319 that rightaway can't be obtained in a in 5302 03:39:58,319 --> 03:40:01,920 a manner that you guys are okay with, we 5303 03:40:01,920 --> 03:40:04,000 looked at the possibility of doing a 5304 03:40:04,000 --> 03:40:06,880 project where we could basically add 5305 03:40:06,880 --> 03:40:09,200 here's the existing configuration of the 5306 03:40:09,200 --> 03:40:11,680 ultimate section. These two lanes here 5307 03:40:11,680 --> 03:40:14,399 represent the 26 ft lanes that are 5308 03:40:14,399 --> 03:40:15,840 currently constructed in front of 5309 03:40:15,840 --> 03:40:17,920 stream. Then you've got a large median 5310 03:40:17,920 --> 03:40:19,840 and what we were proposing to build this 5311 03:40:19,840 --> 03:40:22,160 next year were these westbound lanes. 5312 03:40:22,160 --> 03:40:23,840 Everybody visualize that? 5313 03:40:23,840 --> 03:40:26,150 >> Yes. If for whatever reason that rideway 5314 03:40:26,150 --> 03:40:26,160 » Yes. If for whatever reason that rideway 5315 03:40:26,160 --> 03:40:28,319 cannot be attained in a schedule or in a 5316 03:40:28,319 --> 03:40:30,880 timeline that the town or the city is 5317 03:40:30,880 --> 03:40:33,279 happy with, we looked at the possibility 5318 03:40:33,279 --> 03:40:36,720 of trying to construct a third lane in 5319 03:40:36,720 --> 03:40:40,160 the existing rideway to facilitate a 5320 03:40:40,160 --> 03:40:43,359 connection between Hasslet Parkway and 5321 03:40:43,359 --> 03:40:45,760 Pasque. And what we what we've come up 5322 03:40:45,760 --> 03:40:48,800 with is we can make it fit. We would 5323 03:40:48,800 --> 03:40:50,960 basically tie in to the pavement that 5324 03:40:50,960 --> 03:40:54,000 was constructed um with city funds as 5325 03:40:54,000 --> 03:40:56,239 part of the stream development agreement 5326 03:40:56,239 --> 03:41:00,080 and then add in uh transitional pavement 5327 03:41:00,080 --> 03:41:02,399 through this large driveway here and 5328 03:41:02,399 --> 03:41:04,479 then you would transition back to 5329 03:41:04,479 --> 03:41:07,040 two-way traffic and come up to a 5330 03:41:07,040 --> 03:41:09,520 standard four-way intersection. Now, 5331 03:41:09,520 --> 03:41:11,600 that's not ideal, but that's that's 5332 03:41:11,600 --> 03:41:13,680 something that we need to look at and 5333 03:41:13,680 --> 03:41:16,319 we'll discuss more with you um at the 5334 03:41:16,319 --> 03:41:17,760 next council meeting. 5335 03:41:17,760 --> 03:41:20,070 >> Is is this intersection a huge priority 5336 03:41:20,070 --> 03:41:20,080 » Is is this intersection a huge priority 5337 03:41:20,080 --> 03:41:22,239 that we can't wait until we get, you 5338 03:41:22,239 --> 03:41:25,600 know, the the rightway? I mean, is it 5339 03:41:25,600 --> 03:41:27,030 >> I mean, I know that we want this, but is 5340 03:41:27,030 --> 03:41:27,040 » I mean, I know that we want this, but is 5341 03:41:27,040 --> 03:41:27,439 it something 5342 03:41:27,439 --> 03:41:27,990 >> I'm with you 5343 03:41:27,990 --> 03:41:28,000 » I'm with you 5344 03:41:28,000 --> 03:41:28,710 >> the I mean, 5345 03:41:28,710 --> 03:41:28,720 » the I mean, 5346 03:41:28,720 --> 03:41:29,269 >> I'm with you. 5347 03:41:29,269 --> 03:41:29,279 » I'm with you. 5348 03:41:29,279 --> 03:41:30,630 >> I'd rather wait until we can get the 5349 03:41:30,630 --> 03:41:30,640 » I'd rather wait until we can get the 5350 03:41:30,640 --> 03:41:32,239 rightway instead of try to rush it. I 5351 03:41:32,239 --> 03:41:33,600 mean, like, if it takes another year to 5352 03:41:33,600 --> 03:41:34,960 get the rideway, that that's it. I don't 5353 03:41:34,960 --> 03:41:36,160 think this is an intersection, but right 5354 03:41:36,160 --> 03:41:37,840 here is a [snorts] huge 5355 03:41:37,840 --> 03:41:39,429 >> Well, what what this intersection, in my 5356 03:41:39,429 --> 03:41:39,439 » Well, what what this intersection, in my 5357 03:41:39,439 --> 03:41:41,359 opinion, what this intersection will do 5358 03:41:41,359 --> 03:41:42,960 is take some of the pressure off of the 5359 03:41:42,960 --> 03:41:45,760 Harmon Road has a parkway intersection 5360 03:41:45,760 --> 03:41:48,000 because since the QT got built there and 5361 03:41:48,000 --> 03:41:50,640 the traffic keeps growing, lots of times 5362 03:41:50,640 --> 03:41:52,399 that light is now backing up, if you're 5363 03:41:52,399 --> 03:41:55,040 trying to turn right out off of Harmon 5364 03:41:55,040 --> 03:41:58,080 onto Hazit Parkway, for example. So, 5365 03:41:58,080 --> 03:41:59,920 this will allow another option for 5366 03:41:59,920 --> 03:42:03,200 people to get onto Hazit Parkway. 5367 03:42:03,200 --> 03:42:05,279 And what I'm hearing is this is just a 5368 03:42:05,279 --> 03:42:08,093 plan B if if we can't get the 5369 03:42:08,093 --> 03:42:09,439 [clears throat] rod away and do it the 5370 03:42:09,439 --> 03:42:10,160 way we want to do it. 5371 03:42:10,160 --> 03:42:11,830 >> We we we are moving forward with the 5372 03:42:11,830 --> 03:42:11,840 » We we we are moving forward with the 5373 03:42:11,840 --> 03:42:14,160 design as as instructed for the 5374 03:42:14,160 --> 03:42:15,040 ultimate. 5375 03:42:15,040 --> 03:42:18,309 >> Um we will bring you 60% plans. We will 5376 03:42:18,309 --> 03:42:18,319 » Um we will bring you 60% plans. We will 5377 03:42:18,319 --> 03:42:19,840 also bring you some more information on 5378 03:42:19,840 --> 03:42:23,120 the rideway and try to make sure we've 5379 03:42:23,120 --> 03:42:25,600 got good direction on on how to proceed. 5380 03:42:25,600 --> 03:42:27,120 I mean, we really need to put in a right 5381 03:42:27,120 --> 03:42:29,279 turn lane at Harmon Road and has a 5382 03:42:29,279 --> 03:42:31,520 parkway too the way the traffic's going 5383 03:42:31,520 --> 03:42:33,200 now. But 5384 03:42:33,200 --> 03:42:35,429 >> so question, I mean, is there a concern 5385 03:42:35,429 --> 03:42:35,439 » so question, I mean, is there a concern 5386 03:42:35,439 --> 03:42:36,960 on the rightway? 5387 03:42:36,960 --> 03:42:39,349 >> Cuz you don't normally plan a plan B 5388 03:42:39,349 --> 03:42:39,359 » Cuz you don't normally plan a plan B 5389 03:42:39,359 --> 03:42:39,760 unless 5390 03:42:39,760 --> 03:42:41,349 >> I think that's what we're talking about. 5391 03:42:41,349 --> 03:42:41,359 » I think that's what we're talking about. 5392 03:42:41,359 --> 03:42:41,910 >> Oh, 5393 03:42:41,910 --> 03:42:41,920 » Oh, 5394 03:42:41,920 --> 03:42:42,630 >> Monday night. 5395 03:42:42,630 --> 03:42:42,640 » Monday night. 5396 03:42:42,640 --> 03:42:43,590 >> Are you going to give us more 5397 03:42:43,590 --> 03:42:43,600 » Are you going to give us more 5398 03:42:43,600 --> 03:42:45,840 information about that? Okay. So then 5399 03:42:45,840 --> 03:42:50,000 the next question is that M that exit 5400 03:42:50,000 --> 03:42:51,600 point right here. That's going to be 5401 03:42:51,600 --> 03:42:53,120 trucks. Do we really think they can make 5402 03:42:53,120 --> 03:42:54,880 that turn in two lanes? because I don't 5403 03:42:54,880 --> 03:42:57,120 want traffic coming down when a truck's 5404 03:42:57,120 --> 03:42:58,720 turning. Do you see my concern? 5405 03:42:58,720 --> 03:43:00,229 >> That's why the third lane goes past 5406 03:43:00,229 --> 03:43:00,239 » That's why the third lane goes past 5407 03:43:00,239 --> 03:43:00,960 that. 5408 03:43:00,960 --> 03:43:03,349 >> I understand, but I don't think a truck 5409 03:43:03,349 --> 03:43:03,359 » I understand, but I don't think a truck 5410 03:43:03,359 --> 03:43:05,279 can make that turn without hitting that 5411 03:43:05,279 --> 03:43:06,880 curb consistently. Won't it have to go 5412 03:43:06,880 --> 03:43:08,560 into that sorry 5413 03:43:08,560 --> 03:43:09,670 >> that lane? 5414 03:43:09,670 --> 03:43:09,680 » that lane? 5415 03:43:09,680 --> 03:43:12,389 >> We feel like at a minimum 5416 03:43:12,389 --> 03:43:12,399 » We feel like at a minimum 5417 03:43:12,399 --> 03:43:14,720 um this is what's required to 5418 03:43:14,720 --> 03:43:16,239 facilitate. 5419 03:43:16,239 --> 03:43:18,080 That's why we've taken this transitional 5420 03:43:18,080 --> 03:43:22,080 pavement back through. Um this this turn 5421 03:43:22,080 --> 03:43:23,600 lane 5422 03:43:23,600 --> 03:43:26,319 is kind of um we didn't do a good job of 5423 03:43:26,319 --> 03:43:27,920 showing this. This could just be a 5424 03:43:27,920 --> 03:43:32,239 striped um center turn lane if that 5425 03:43:32,239 --> 03:43:34,560 makes sense. I do understand the concern 5426 03:43:34,560 --> 03:43:36,800 about truck traffic and turning and 5427 03:43:36,800 --> 03:43:38,399 that's that that's the reason why we 5428 03:43:38,399 --> 03:43:40,239 couldn't open up open it up as a 5429 03:43:40,239 --> 03:43:41,760 two-lane road because those trucks are 5430 03:43:41,760 --> 03:43:43,920 swinging too wide. So, 5431 03:43:43,920 --> 03:43:45,189 >> just something for us to consider if we 5432 03:43:45,189 --> 03:43:45,199 » just something for us to consider if we 5433 03:43:45,199 --> 03:43:47,439 have to go with B preparing to make sure 5434 03:43:47,439 --> 03:43:50,239 they can see those like incoming cars 5435 03:43:50,239 --> 03:43:52,800 because they're fast down that road. I 5436 03:43:52,800 --> 03:43:54,160 just see a head-on collision with a 5437 03:43:54,160 --> 03:43:56,560 truck happening because they can't see. 5438 03:43:56,560 --> 03:43:58,389 >> And I know at our what our one of our 5439 03:43:58,389 --> 03:43:58,399 » And I know at our what our one of our 5440 03:43:58,399 --> 03:43:59,680 previous council meetings, we talked 5441 03:43:59,680 --> 03:44:01,680 about it not being and this is phase 5442 03:44:01,680 --> 03:44:03,920 two, but or phase three, I don't know, 5443 03:44:03,920 --> 03:44:06,000 but it not being a straight line. We had 5444 03:44:06,000 --> 03:44:08,000 talked about adding some natural 5445 03:44:08,000 --> 03:44:09,439 curvatures. That'll be later 5446 03:44:09,439 --> 03:44:11,349 >> and we we we'll have that ready for 5447 03:44:11,349 --> 03:44:11,359 » and we we we'll have that ready for 5448 03:44:11,359 --> 03:44:13,199 discussion at the council meeting. 5449 03:44:13,199 --> 03:44:14,000 [cough] We've got we've [clears throat] 5450 03:44:14,000 --> 03:44:16,319 got two different options for traffic 5451 03:44:16,319 --> 03:44:21,120 calming. We've got some roadway designs. 5452 03:44:21,120 --> 03:44:23,840 We've also got some uh roundabouts as 5453 03:44:23,840 --> 03:44:25,439 well. So, we'll we'll get some direction 5454 03:44:25,439 --> 03:44:26,479 on on the phase two. 5455 03:44:26,479 --> 03:44:28,790 >> So, the money is good. The one point the 5456 03:44:28,790 --> 03:44:28,800 » So, the money is good. The one point the 5457 03:44:28,800 --> 03:44:30,800 1.1 plus the 35, that's a good amount. 5458 03:44:30,800 --> 03:44:31,349 >> Yes, ma'am. 5459 03:44:31,349 --> 03:44:31,359 » Yes, ma'am. 5460 03:44:31,359 --> 03:44:33,349 >> Okay. 5461 03:44:33,349 --> 03:44:33,359 » Okay. 5462 03:44:33,359 --> 03:44:36,239 And I guess it really isn't like wasting 5463 03:44:36,239 --> 03:44:37,760 the funds in building that because truly 5464 03:44:37,760 --> 03:44:39,760 that could just be a turn lane that's 5465 03:44:39,760 --> 03:44:41,120 useful in the future. We wouldn't tear 5466 03:44:41,120 --> 03:44:42,960 that down, right? That's what we would 5467 03:44:42,960 --> 03:44:44,800 we would just restripe it. 5468 03:44:44,800 --> 03:44:46,389 >> Well, I think we were planning to build 5469 03:44:46,389 --> 03:44:46,399 » Well, I think we were planning to build 5470 03:44:46,399 --> 03:44:49,920 that out of uh out of hot mix. Um on the 5471 03:44:49,920 --> 03:44:52,479 interim, we could we could look at if if 5472 03:44:52,479 --> 03:44:54,160 we have to go with the plan B, we could 5473 03:44:54,160 --> 03:44:56,319 look at or we could bid it both ways 5474 03:44:56,319 --> 03:44:58,630 >> just yeah with with the trucks and the 5475 03:44:58,630 --> 03:44:58,640 » just yeah with with the trucks and the 5476 03:44:58,640 --> 03:45:00,720 future plans for that area and the cars. 5477 03:45:00,720 --> 03:45:07,189 It might be beneficial if we go plan B. 5478 03:45:07,199 --> 03:45:08,560 » We can we can do that. 5479 03:45:08,560 --> 03:45:09,670 >> We'll we'll get there. 5480 03:45:09,670 --> 03:45:09,680 » We'll we'll get there. 5481 03:45:09,680 --> 03:45:11,910 >> We'll get there. I we'll bring you some 5482 03:45:11,910 --> 03:45:11,920 » We'll get there. I we'll bring you some 5483 03:45:11,920 --> 03:45:13,760 plans at the at the meeting. We'll have 5484 03:45:13,760 --> 03:45:15,439 an update on the on the rideway 5485 03:45:15,439 --> 03:45:16,800 discussion as well. 5486 03:45:16,800 --> 03:45:18,630 >> Sounds good. 5487 03:45:18,630 --> 03:45:18,640 » Sounds good. 5488 03:45:18,640 --> 03:45:21,269 >> Okay. So, that's why it's phase one, 5489 03:45:21,269 --> 03:45:21,279 » Okay. So, that's why it's phase one, 5490 03:45:21,279 --> 03:45:24,880 phase two, phase three, 5491 03:45:24,880 --> 03:45:27,120 phase 1 A. 5492 03:45:27,120 --> 03:45:28,960 I'm still confused at what phase 5493 03:45:28,960 --> 03:45:30,630 >> I messed up on my spreadsheet. 5494 03:45:30,630 --> 03:45:30,640 » I messed up on my spreadsheet. 5495 03:45:30,640 --> 03:45:32,469 >> Okay, so this is so it is phase 5496 03:45:32,469 --> 03:45:32,479 » Okay, so this is so it is phase 5497 03:45:32,479 --> 03:45:34,389 >> just say one and two for now. 5498 03:45:34,389 --> 03:45:34,399 » just say one and two for now. 5499 03:45:34,399 --> 03:45:36,309 >> Sorry 5500 03:45:36,309 --> 03:45:36,319 » Sorry 5501 03:45:36,319 --> 03:45:38,080 phase phase one is the small section. 5502 03:45:38,080 --> 03:45:40,080 Phase two is the big section. Correct. 5503 03:45:40,080 --> 03:45:41,830 >> Mayor, are you clear on that because you 5504 03:45:41,830 --> 03:45:41,840 » Mayor, are you clear on that because you 5505 03:45:41,840 --> 03:45:42,560 had some confusion? 5506 03:45:42,560 --> 03:45:43,990 >> I need something to clarify. That's one 5507 03:45:43,990 --> 03:45:44,000 » I need something to clarify. That's one 5508 03:45:44,000 --> 03:45:45,760 of the things I needed to visit with you 5509 03:45:45,760 --> 03:45:46,319 on. 5510 03:45:46,319 --> 03:45:49,269 >> Well, can we clarify? Phase one would be 5511 03:45:49,269 --> 03:45:49,279 » Well, can we clarify? Phase one would be 5512 03:45:49,279 --> 03:45:51,439 the minimum to tie that intersection 5513 03:45:51,439 --> 03:45:54,239 into the existing lanes 5514 03:45:54,239 --> 03:45:56,319 and install a signal light. 5515 03:45:56,319 --> 03:45:57,110 >> It's all 5516 03:45:57,110 --> 03:45:57,120 » It's all 5517 03:45:57,120 --> 03:45:59,110 >> that would be phase one. That would be 5518 03:45:59,110 --> 03:45:59,120 » that would be phase one. That would be 5519 03:45:59,120 --> 03:46:03,279 the if we have to go that route. Phase 5520 03:46:03,279 --> 03:46:07,120 two is taking from Hassa Parkway down to 5521 03:46:07,120 --> 03:46:08,800 Pasque. Is that correct? 5522 03:46:08,800 --> 03:46:09,110 >> No. 5523 03:46:09,110 --> 03:46:09,120 » No. 5524 03:46:09,120 --> 03:46:10,870 >> No. Phase two is pass. 5525 03:46:10,870 --> 03:46:10,880 » No. Phase two is pass. 5526 03:46:10,880 --> 03:46:12,630 >> Tell me what phase one is. 5527 03:46:12,630 --> 03:46:12,640 » Tell me what phase one is. 5528 03:46:12,640 --> 03:46:14,389 >> Phase one two and phase three. 5529 03:46:14,389 --> 03:46:14,399 » Phase one two and phase three. 5530 03:46:14,399 --> 03:46:16,389 >> Phase one is young. Right now it's phase 5531 03:46:16,389 --> 03:46:16,399 » Phase one is young. Right now it's phase 5532 03:46:16,399 --> 03:46:18,000 one and phase two. What's on this 5533 03:46:18,000 --> 03:46:21,520 exhibit? There is no phase three 5534 03:46:21,520 --> 03:46:23,840 at this point. Now there may need to we 5535 03:46:23,840 --> 03:46:25,439 may need to pivot depending on the 5536 03:46:25,439 --> 03:46:28,960 rideway and look at an interim project. 5537 03:46:28,960 --> 03:46:30,870 >> So that would be a phase 1 A. 5538 03:46:30,870 --> 03:46:30,880 » So that would be a phase 1 A. 5539 03:46:30,880 --> 03:46:32,550 >> Correct. That would probably be a better 5540 03:46:32,550 --> 03:46:32,560 » Correct. That would probably be a better 5541 03:46:32,560 --> 03:46:32,880 way. 5542 03:46:32,880 --> 03:46:35,429 >> Phase 1 A is 5543 03:46:35,429 --> 03:46:35,439 » Phase 1 A is 5544 03:46:35,439 --> 03:46:37,840 we have to do this to open up and 5545 03:46:37,840 --> 03:46:40,560 utilize the road until right away can be 5546 03:46:40,560 --> 03:46:41,120 obtained. 5547 03:46:41,120 --> 03:46:41,590 >> Correct. 5548 03:46:41,590 --> 03:46:41,600 » Correct. 5549 03:46:41,600 --> 03:46:45,030 >> Yes. And so we could and that because 5550 03:46:45,030 --> 03:46:45,040 » Yes. And so we could and that because 5551 03:46:45,040 --> 03:46:48,080 you have 1.135, you can do either one or 5552 03:46:48,080 --> 03:46:50,000 1 A. That's just going to drop itself 5553 03:46:50,000 --> 03:46:50,960 out 5554 03:46:50,960 --> 03:46:53,429 >> as we as we move forward. So maybe we 5555 03:46:53,429 --> 03:46:53,439 » as we as we move forward. So maybe we 5556 03:46:53,439 --> 03:46:55,600 label it that one 1A. 5557 03:46:55,600 --> 03:46:56,870 >> Can we under the same? 5558 03:46:56,870 --> 03:46:56,880 » Can we under the same? 5559 03:46:56,880 --> 03:46:59,269 >> Okay. So Marcy, do you have that? We're 5560 03:46:59,269 --> 03:46:59,279 » Okay. So Marcy, do you have that? We're 5561 03:46:59,279 --> 03:47:01,600 going to label it one. 5562 03:47:01,600 --> 03:47:03,349 >> There we go. 5563 03:47:03,349 --> 03:47:03,359 » There we go. 5564 03:47:03,359 --> 03:47:04,229 >> Beautiful. 5565 03:47:04,229 --> 03:47:04,239 » Beautiful. 5566 03:47:04,239 --> 03:47:06,710 >> And we'll we'll uh this this exhibit 5567 03:47:06,710 --> 03:47:06,720 » And we'll we'll uh this this exhibit 5568 03:47:06,720 --> 03:47:08,239 will get updated. 5569 03:47:08,239 --> 03:47:09,990 >> Well, this exhibit would have to be 5570 03:47:09,990 --> 03:47:10,000 » Well, this exhibit would have to be 5571 03:47:10,000 --> 03:47:12,319 updated. It's not simply just labeling 5572 03:47:12,319 --> 03:47:14,000 something one a over here. 5573 03:47:14,000 --> 03:47:15,750 >> Yes, he he's saying he's updating it 5574 03:47:15,750 --> 03:47:15,760 » Yes, he he's saying he's updating it 5575 03:47:15,760 --> 03:47:18,070 >> and I'll I'll I'll bring this back. 5576 03:47:18,070 --> 03:47:18,080 » and I'll I'll I'll bring this back. 5577 03:47:18,080 --> 03:47:21,670 >> Good. 5578 03:47:21,680 --> 03:47:22,880 » State three. 5579 03:47:22,880 --> 03:47:24,950 >> Do we have the 5580 03:47:24,950 --> 03:47:24,960 » Do we have the 5581 03:47:24,960 --> 03:47:26,469 >> phase? 5582 03:47:26,469 --> 03:47:26,479 » phase? 5583 03:47:26,479 --> 03:47:27,670 >> So, you're not wanting to do anything 5584 03:47:27,670 --> 03:47:27,680 » So, you're not wanting to do anything 5585 03:47:27,680 --> 03:47:29,760 for phase two next year, correct? Even 5586 03:47:29,760 --> 03:47:31,120 rideaway acquisition. 5587 03:47:31,120 --> 03:47:32,950 >> Uh I don't know that we've I don't know 5588 03:47:32,950 --> 03:47:32,960 » Uh I don't know that we've I don't know 5589 03:47:32,960 --> 03:47:34,479 that we have any rideway that we need to 5590 03:47:34,479 --> 03:47:35,920 acquire unless there's some down there 5591 03:47:35,920 --> 03:47:36,800 at the corner. 5592 03:47:36,800 --> 03:47:38,790 >> What did you We have it all. 5593 03:47:38,790 --> 03:47:38,800 » What did you We have it all. 5594 03:47:38,800 --> 03:47:39,279 It's all 5595 03:47:39,279 --> 03:47:42,389 >> showing there. 5596 03:47:42,389 --> 03:47:42,399 » showing there. 5597 03:47:42,399 --> 03:47:43,189 >> So all the 5598 03:47:43,189 --> 03:47:43,199 » So all the 5599 03:47:43,199 --> 03:47:45,349 >> huge all the way down that was 5600 03:47:45,349 --> 03:47:45,359 » huge all the way down that was 5601 03:47:45,359 --> 03:47:46,720 dedicated. [clears throat] 5602 03:47:46,720 --> 03:47:48,550 >> Yeah, there now there may need to be 5603 03:47:48,550 --> 03:47:48,560 » Yeah, there now there may need to be 5604 03:47:48,560 --> 03:47:51,279 some depending on what your direction is 5605 03:47:51,279 --> 03:47:53,359 as far as the intersection treatments, 5606 03:47:53,359 --> 03:47:54,950 >> but we can get into all that and there 5607 03:47:54,950 --> 03:47:54,960 » but we can get into all that and there 5608 03:47:54,960 --> 03:47:56,800 there's there's plenty of money in this 5609 03:47:56,800 --> 03:47:58,399 budget to figure that out. We don't need 5610 03:47:58,399 --> 03:48:00,960 any additional funds for phase two. We 5611 03:48:00,960 --> 03:48:01,520 don't. 5612 03:48:01,520 --> 03:48:05,349 >> Do you want us to put phase one 1A/2 in 5613 03:48:05,349 --> 03:48:05,359 » Do you want us to put phase one 1A/2 in 5614 03:48:05,359 --> 03:48:06,399 case you need a little? 5615 03:48:06,399 --> 03:48:08,710 >> So Marcy's just labeling it SD3 and 5616 03:48:08,710 --> 03:48:08,720 » So Marcy's just labeling it SD3 and 5617 03:48:08,720 --> 03:48:10,560 that's going to clarify everything. 5618 03:48:10,560 --> 03:48:11,189 >> There we go. 5619 03:48:11,189 --> 03:48:11,199 » There we go. 5620 03:48:11,199 --> 03:48:11,750 >> Beautiful. 5621 03:48:11,750 --> 03:48:11,760 » Beautiful. 5622 03:48:11,760 --> 03:48:13,349 >> There we go. 5623 03:48:13,349 --> 03:48:13,359 » There we go. 5624 03:48:13,359 --> 03:48:16,150 >> I just say they'll check project S3. 5625 03:48:16,150 --> 03:48:16,160 » I just say they'll check project S3. 5626 03:48:16,160 --> 03:48:16,550 >> Okay. 5627 03:48:16,550 --> 03:48:16,560 » Okay. 5628 03:48:16,560 --> 03:48:17,030 >> There we go. 5629 03:48:17,030 --> 03:48:17,040 » There we go. 5630 03:48:17,040 --> 03:48:18,710 >> And also Jasmine, in the future, if your 5631 03:48:18,710 --> 03:48:18,720 » And also Jasmine, in the future, if your 5632 03:48:18,720 --> 03:48:22,000 HOA decided to, they could tie into a 5633 03:48:22,000 --> 03:48:23,680 back entrance for your neighborhood into 5634 03:48:23,680 --> 03:48:25,439 this road, but it's not currently 5635 03:48:25,439 --> 03:48:28,000 planned because 5636 03:48:28,000 --> 03:48:29,189 >> there's not a connection. But there's 5637 03:48:29,189 --> 03:48:29,199 » there's not a connection. But there's 5638 03:48:29,199 --> 03:48:30,479 two spots right there that could connect 5639 03:48:30,479 --> 03:48:32,000 if you wanted to. 5640 03:48:32,000 --> 03:48:33,910 >> I'd be curious to see what the community 5641 03:48:33,910 --> 03:48:33,920 » I'd be curious to see what the community 5642 03:48:33,920 --> 03:48:34,319 thought. 5643 03:48:34,319 --> 03:48:35,990 >> Your HOA would have to decide that. 5644 03:48:35,990 --> 03:48:36,000 » Your HOA would have to decide that. 5645 03:48:36,000 --> 03:48:37,812 >> Yeah. 5646 03:48:37,812 --> 03:48:37,822 » Yeah. 5647 03:48:37,822 --> 03:48:38,000 [clears throat] 5648 03:48:38,000 --> 03:48:39,990 >> Good point. 5649 03:48:39,990 --> 03:48:40,000 » Good point. 5650 03:48:40,000 --> 03:48:42,389 >> Okay. So, we'll bring back this exhibit. 5651 03:48:42,389 --> 03:48:42,399 » Okay. So, we'll bring back this exhibit. 5652 03:48:42,399 --> 03:48:44,560 There's going to be a phase two. There's 5653 03:48:44,560 --> 03:48:46,319 two alternatives that we're going to 5654 03:48:46,319 --> 03:48:48,160 propose for phase two for traffic 5655 03:48:48,160 --> 03:48:50,800 calming and then we'll bring our plans 5656 03:48:50,800 --> 03:48:54,080 for phase one 60% design. And we'll have 5657 03:48:54,080 --> 03:48:56,080 an update for the rideway. 5658 03:48:56,080 --> 03:48:58,469 >> Thank you. in executive session. 5659 03:48:58,469 --> 03:48:58,479 » Thank you. in executive session. 5660 03:48:58,479 --> 03:48:59,830 >> Perfect. 5661 03:48:59,830 --> 03:48:59,840 » Perfect. 5662 03:48:59,840 --> 03:49:01,670 >> Okay. 5663 03:49:01,670 --> 03:49:01,680 » Okay. 5664 03:49:01,680 --> 03:49:06,319 Anything else on project SD3? 5665 03:49:06,319 --> 03:49:07,910 >> Go ahead. 5666 03:49:07,910 --> 03:49:07,920 » Go ahead. 5667 03:49:07,920 --> 03:49:10,070 >> Um, it shows on here we don't have any 5668 03:49:10,070 --> 03:49:10,080 » Um, it shows on here we don't have any 5669 03:49:10,080 --> 03:49:13,359 money budgeted for S from from past to 5670 03:49:13,359 --> 03:49:14,960 Blue Mountains, right? 5671 03:49:14,960 --> 03:49:15,269 >> Yep. 5672 03:49:15,269 --> 03:49:15,279 » Yep. 5673 03:49:15,279 --> 03:49:15,830 >> Is that correct? 5674 03:49:15,830 --> 03:49:15,840 » Is that correct? 5675 03:49:15,840 --> 03:49:16,870 >> That's what we just talked about. We 5676 03:49:16,870 --> 03:49:16,880 » That's what we just talked about. We 5677 03:49:16,880 --> 03:49:17,920 don't need it next year. 5678 03:49:17,920 --> 03:49:20,710 >> Okay. I don't know. I I this might not 5679 03:49:20,710 --> 03:49:20,720 » Okay. I don't know. I I this might not 5680 03:49:20,720 --> 03:49:22,640 sound very popular decision or thought, 5681 03:49:22,640 --> 03:49:25,680 but I feel like we have other projects 5682 03:49:25,680 --> 03:49:27,920 that are like Blue Mound and John Day 5683 03:49:27,920 --> 03:49:29,840 like or Blue Mound and I feel like we 5684 03:49:29,840 --> 03:49:31,439 have other roads that are more important 5685 03:49:31,439 --> 03:49:36,479 right now than than um Interal from past 5686 03:49:36,479 --> 03:49:39,520 cuz that's I mean I don't know how many 5687 03:49:39,520 --> 03:49:41,120 cars going that a day. 5688 03:49:41,120 --> 03:49:43,189 >> It's the danger. It's that road is 5689 03:49:43,189 --> 03:49:43,199 » It's the danger. It's that road is 5690 03:49:43,199 --> 03:49:44,640 extreme. No, I know it's it's dangerous, 5691 03:49:44,640 --> 03:49:46,560 but I mean like I feel like the Blue 5692 03:49:46,560 --> 03:49:48,319 Mountains, the intersections, I feel 5693 03:49:48,319 --> 03:49:50,080 like we need to put more time and more I 5694 03:49:50,080 --> 03:49:51,439 feel like we need to really get those 5695 03:49:51,439 --> 03:49:55,600 going before John before interal. Um I 5696 03:49:55,600 --> 03:49:58,640 don't know my my mind I think that's a 5697 03:49:58,640 --> 03:50:00,160 down the road. I know it's only a 5698 03:50:00,160 --> 03:50:01,359 two-lane road. I know it's dangerous, 5699 03:50:01,359 --> 03:50:04,239 but I think we need to get the uh 5700 03:50:04,239 --> 03:50:06,640 intermodal phase one done, but I think 5701 03:50:06,640 --> 03:50:08,399 phase two from PAS, I think that could 5702 03:50:08,399 --> 03:50:10,640 wait a good while. I think for sure. 5703 03:50:10,640 --> 03:50:11,750 >> Yeah, that's what's on here. We don't 5704 03:50:11,750 --> 03:50:11,760 » Yeah, that's what's on here. We don't 5705 03:50:11,760 --> 03:50:14,319 have anything until 2031 beyond. 5706 03:50:14,319 --> 03:50:16,630 >> Yeah, we're not doing phase 2 right now. 5707 03:50:16,630 --> 03:50:16,640 » Yeah, we're not doing phase 2 right now. 5708 03:50:16,640 --> 03:50:17,910 >> Okay. Well, we talked about doing we 5709 03:50:17,910 --> 03:50:17,920 » Okay. Well, we talked about doing we 5710 03:50:17,920 --> 03:50:19,279 talked about doing schematics and stuff 5711 03:50:19,279 --> 03:50:20,319 like that. So, I'm just saying I think 5712 03:50:20,319 --> 03:50:22,319 we should even hold off on that and to 5713 03:50:22,319 --> 03:50:23,600 get everything else. Don't even put any 5714 03:50:23,600 --> 03:50:24,239 money in that. 5715 03:50:24,239 --> 03:50:26,630 >> It's just what he has to do for the like 5716 03:50:26,630 --> 03:50:26,640 » It's just what he has to do for the like 5717 03:50:26,640 --> 03:50:28,560 overlay. He's not focusing too much on 5718 03:50:28,560 --> 03:50:30,000 phase two. He's going to bring cost for 5719 03:50:30,000 --> 03:50:32,160 us to plan and prepare for future. Okay. 5720 03:50:32,160 --> 03:50:34,150 >> But my understanding is the only part of 5721 03:50:34,150 --> 03:50:34,160 » But my understanding is the only part of 5722 03:50:34,160 --> 03:50:34,880 phase two [clears throat] he's really 5723 03:50:34,880 --> 03:50:37,439 touching is what he needs to plan for 5724 03:50:37,439 --> 03:50:38,880 the future. Mike, is that correct? 5725 03:50:38,880 --> 03:50:40,950 >> That's correct. and the the intersection 5726 03:50:40,950 --> 03:50:40,960 » That's correct. and the the intersection 5727 03:50:40,960 --> 03:50:42,560 at Blue Mound. We can cover the 5728 03:50:42,560 --> 03:50:44,720 intersection design at Blue Mound, which 5729 03:50:44,720 --> 03:50:47,439 is the um that can be covered with the 5730 03:50:47,439 --> 03:50:50,319 schematic for Blue Mound. um that that 5731 03:50:50,319 --> 03:50:53,199 entrance into SweetG Grass, we can we 5732 03:50:53,199 --> 03:50:54,880 can come up with enough during the 5733 03:50:54,880 --> 03:50:57,680 design of phase one and this work that 5734 03:50:57,680 --> 03:50:58,880 we're going to be doing over the next 5735 03:50:58,880 --> 03:51:02,160 couple weeks to update you to know um 5736 03:51:02,160 --> 03:51:04,000 what if any rideway needs because that 5737 03:51:04,000 --> 03:51:06,640 would be critical path would be get your 5738 03:51:06,640 --> 03:51:09,040 direction on how you'd like to calm the 5739 03:51:09,040 --> 03:51:11,680 speeds down. Pick a pick the type of 5740 03:51:11,680 --> 03:51:13,840 design you want, go through our two 5741 03:51:13,840 --> 03:51:15,760 recommended options, and then identify 5742 03:51:15,760 --> 03:51:17,359 the rideway needs. And there's plenty of 5743 03:51:17,359 --> 03:51:19,359 money in this phase one budget to take 5744 03:51:19,359 --> 03:51:21,520 care of that. 5745 03:51:21,520 --> 03:51:25,349 >> We are setting a trailer out next week, 5746 03:51:25,349 --> 03:51:25,359 » We are setting a trailer out next week, 5747 03:51:25,359 --> 03:51:28,560 speed trailers on Interotal 5748 03:51:28,560 --> 03:51:31,359 to take traffic counts and speeds. 5749 03:51:31,359 --> 03:51:32,710 >> Thank you. 5750 03:51:32,710 --> 03:51:32,720 » Thank you. 5751 03:51:32,720 --> 03:51:36,790 >> That uh [clears throat] 5752 03:51:36,800 --> 03:51:38,800 » so that'll be information and that might 5753 03:51:38,800 --> 03:51:41,279 be available in three or four weeks. 5754 03:51:41,279 --> 03:51:43,670 >> I drive on that road a lot. There's 5755 03:51:43,670 --> 03:51:43,680 » I drive on that road a lot. There's 5756 03:51:43,680 --> 03:51:45,199 actually not a speed limit sign anywhere 5757 03:51:45,199 --> 03:51:48,550 on that road. 5758 03:51:48,560 --> 03:51:53,600 Well, James Tucker thinks it's Ottabon. 5759 03:51:53,600 --> 03:51:55,750 >> So, [clears throat] I I assume it's 35 5760 03:51:55,750 --> 03:51:55,760 » So, [clears throat] I I assume it's 35 5761 03:51:55,760 --> 03:51:57,279 because that's, you know, that's what 5762 03:51:57,279 --> 03:51:57,680 they say. 5763 03:51:57,680 --> 03:52:01,189 >> All Urban Street is 30 actually. Is it's 5764 03:52:01,189 --> 03:52:01,199 » All Urban Street is 30 actually. Is it's 5765 03:52:01,199 --> 03:52:03,680 just residential. Uh that's just state 5766 03:52:03,680 --> 03:52:04,000 law, 5767 03:52:04,000 --> 03:52:05,030 >> but that's not a res. 5768 03:52:05,030 --> 03:52:05,040 » but that's not a res. 5769 03:52:05,040 --> 03:52:07,510 >> You're right about that. It's just uh 5770 03:52:07,510 --> 03:52:07,520 » You're right about that. It's just uh 5771 03:52:07,520 --> 03:52:09,359 you might make a note of that. 5772 03:52:09,359 --> 03:52:11,189 >> There's not a single speed limit sign on 5773 03:52:11,189 --> 03:52:11,199 » There's not a single speed limit sign on 5774 03:52:11,199 --> 03:52:13,040 that road. 5775 03:52:13,040 --> 03:52:13,429 >> Yeah. 5776 03:52:13,429 --> 03:52:13,439 » Yeah. 5777 03:52:13,439 --> 03:52:14,710 >> 75, 5778 03:52:14,710 --> 03:52:14,720 » 75, 5779 03:52:14,720 --> 03:52:17,269 >> right? No, they go 90. I'm telling you. 5780 03:52:17,269 --> 03:52:17,279 » right? No, they go 90. I'm telling you. 5781 03:52:17,279 --> 03:52:18,950 >> From from Blue Mound to over to Hazard 5782 03:52:18,950 --> 03:52:18,960 » From from Blue Mound to over to Hazard 5783 03:52:18,960 --> 03:52:20,800 Parkway on Inner Motoral right there, 5784 03:52:20,800 --> 03:52:23,040 there's not a single speed limit sign. 5785 03:52:23,040 --> 03:52:24,950 >> And it's not and it's not a residential 5786 03:52:24,950 --> 03:52:24,960 » And it's not and it's not a residential 5787 03:52:24,960 --> 03:52:27,680 road. It's a major road, 5788 03:52:27,680 --> 03:52:28,870 >> arterial, whatever you want to call it. 5789 03:52:28,870 --> 03:52:28,880 » arterial, whatever you want to call it. 5790 03:52:28,880 --> 03:52:30,000 So, it shouldn't be 30. 5791 03:52:30,000 --> 03:52:31,670 >> What What would you like for it to be? 5792 03:52:31,670 --> 03:52:31,680 » What What would you like for it to be? 5793 03:52:31,680 --> 03:52:33,590 >> 90. 5794 03:52:33,590 --> 03:52:33,600 » 90. 5795 03:52:33,600 --> 03:52:36,550 >> No, I I always assume it's 35 and I 5796 03:52:36,550 --> 03:52:36,560 » No, I I always assume it's 35 and I 5797 03:52:36,560 --> 03:52:38,880 assume I drive. No one goes 35. 5798 03:52:38,880 --> 03:52:41,030 >> Nobody. But 5799 03:52:41,030 --> 03:52:41,040 » Nobody. But 5800 03:52:41,040 --> 03:52:45,189 >> I go 36. 5801 03:52:45,199 --> 03:52:46,239 What's next? 5802 03:52:46,239 --> 03:52:47,349 >> ST. 5803 03:52:47,349 --> 03:52:47,359 » ST. 5804 03:52:47,359 --> 03:52:49,349 >> Everyone good with one, two, three, and 5805 03:52:49,349 --> 03:52:49,359 » Everyone good with one, two, three, and 5806 03:52:49,359 --> 03:52:51,439 four? We're moving on to 5807 03:52:51,439 --> 03:52:52,870 >> I just had one question from when I was 5808 03:52:52,870 --> 03:52:52,880 » I just had one question from when I was 5809 03:52:52,880 --> 03:52:56,560 nurse or sorry um the [laughter] 5810 03:52:56,560 --> 03:53:00,950 >> sorry the the rightway acquisition for 5811 03:53:00,950 --> 03:53:00,960 » sorry the the rightway acquisition for 5812 03:53:00,960 --> 03:53:07,110 um John Day who's doing that? 5813 03:53:07,120 --> 03:53:08,720 » Who's physically going to do that? 5814 03:53:08,720 --> 03:53:10,870 >> Who's working on those conversations? 5815 03:53:10,870 --> 03:53:10,880 » Who's working on those conversations? 5816 03:53:10,880 --> 03:53:11,600 Um, 5817 03:53:11,600 --> 03:53:14,070 >> with regard to what portion of John Day 5818 03:53:14,070 --> 03:53:14,080 » with regard to what portion of John Day 5819 03:53:14,080 --> 03:53:15,120 Road, 5820 03:53:15,120 --> 03:53:16,630 >> the south, the one that we're working 5821 03:53:16,630 --> 03:53:16,640 » the south, the one that we're working 5822 03:53:16,640 --> 03:53:20,150 >> talking about John Day Road, any um the 5823 03:53:20,150 --> 03:53:20,160 » talking about John Day Road, any um the 5824 03:53:20,160 --> 03:53:22,319 right away, the north south aspect of 5825 03:53:22,319 --> 03:53:24,000 it. You're not talking about anything on 5826 03:53:24,000 --> 03:53:25,279 Blue Road, are you? 5827 03:53:25,279 --> 03:53:27,110 >> Correct. I'm talking about 5828 03:53:27,110 --> 03:53:27,120 » Correct. I'm talking about 5829 03:53:27,120 --> 03:53:31,670 >> all of south of John Day. 5830 03:53:31,680 --> 03:53:34,239 » Oh, I guess that's SD5. I can wait. 5831 03:53:34,239 --> 03:53:35,830 >> You can wait. That's where we're about 5832 03:53:35,830 --> 03:53:35,840 » You can wait. That's where we're about 5833 03:53:35,840 --> 03:53:37,279 to go. So, that's a good 5834 03:53:37,279 --> 03:53:38,790 >> I misread. I'm sorry. That's a good 5835 03:53:38,790 --> 03:53:38,800 » I misread. I'm sorry. That's a good 5836 03:53:38,800 --> 03:53:40,800 segue into SD5. 5837 03:53:40,800 --> 03:53:41,510 >> Perfect. 5838 03:53:41,510 --> 03:53:41,520 » Perfect. 5839 03:53:41,520 --> 03:53:45,429 >> So, John Day Road, um, 5840 03:53:45,429 --> 03:53:45,439 » So, John Day Road, um, 5841 03:53:45,439 --> 03:53:47,760 this is the southern portion that's 5842 03:53:47,760 --> 03:53:50,560 built currently as a two-lane black top 5843 03:53:50,560 --> 03:53:54,880 road. We put this rough concept together 5844 03:53:54,880 --> 03:53:57,040 a couple of years ago when we were 5845 03:53:57,040 --> 03:53:59,199 trying to coordinate and plan the 5846 03:53:59,199 --> 03:54:02,880 entrances into the Lrrell property. 5847 03:54:02,880 --> 03:54:06,960 And so, um, 5848 03:54:06,960 --> 03:54:09,120 one of the things that that we were 5849 03:54:09,120 --> 03:54:12,160 asked to look at a couple of months ago 5850 03:54:12,160 --> 03:54:15,920 was, um, what can we do to get going on 5851 03:54:15,920 --> 03:54:18,239 the design indoor rideway acquisition 5852 03:54:18,239 --> 03:54:20,479 for John Day Road? This piece of John 5853 03:54:20,479 --> 03:54:22,160 Day Road. Um, 5854 03:54:22,160 --> 03:54:23,750 >> are you telling me that LRL is going to 5855 03:54:23,750 --> 03:54:23,760 » are you telling me that LRL is going to 5856 03:54:23,760 --> 03:54:25,040 have two exits from their neighborhood 5857 03:54:25,040 --> 03:54:26,080 onto that road? 5858 03:54:26,080 --> 03:54:26,550 >> Yes. 5859 03:54:26,550 --> 03:54:26,560 » Yes. 5860 03:54:26,560 --> 03:54:28,710 >> Oh my gosh. 5861 03:54:28,710 --> 03:54:28,720 » Oh my gosh. 5862 03:54:28,720 --> 03:54:31,120 and those and so subsequent to that 5863 03:54:31,120 --> 03:54:33,199 meeting that council meeting where you 5864 03:54:33,199 --> 03:54:35,199 where you all said hey we want to look 5865 03:54:35,199 --> 03:54:37,199 into this go figure it out what it would 5866 03:54:37,199 --> 03:54:41,439 take um the lapril developer has brought 5867 03:54:41,439 --> 03:54:44,080 his plans in and said we need to work 5868 03:54:44,080 --> 03:54:47,120 with the city to lower 5869 03:54:47,120 --> 03:54:50,720 um or to install drainage coverts and 5870 03:54:50,720 --> 03:54:53,600 this isn't exact but it's close enough 5871 03:54:53,600 --> 03:54:56,960 there's there's a three ponds I don't 5872 03:54:56,960 --> 03:54:58,640 know if this is right or not, it doesn't 5873 03:54:58,640 --> 03:55:00,960 matter. It's close enough. 5874 03:55:00,960 --> 03:55:03,600 There's three ponds that have to go in 5875 03:55:03,600 --> 03:55:06,080 for this development. They're roughly 5876 03:55:06,080 --> 03:55:07,760 where I'm showing here on the screen. 5877 03:55:07,760 --> 03:55:08,710 >> Yeah, you can see they're already 5878 03:55:08,710 --> 03:55:08,720 » Yeah, you can see they're already 5879 03:55:08,720 --> 03:55:09,359 working on them. 5880 03:55:09,359 --> 03:55:10,630 >> Oh, yeah. 5881 03:55:10,630 --> 03:55:10,640 » Oh, yeah. 5882 03:55:10,640 --> 03:55:12,870 >> So, the that road when that road was 5883 03:55:12,870 --> 03:55:12,880 » So, the that road when that road was 5884 03:55:12,880 --> 03:55:16,160 built, that road was built above grade. 5885 03:55:16,160 --> 03:55:18,720 So the coverts, in order for them to 5886 03:55:18,720 --> 03:55:20,479 drain their ponds, which are lower than 5887 03:55:20,479 --> 03:55:23,199 the roadway, they have to come in and 5888 03:55:23,199 --> 03:55:25,439 install coververts, cross cover culverts 5889 03:55:25,439 --> 03:55:28,000 underneath John Day Road to drain their 5890 03:55:28,000 --> 03:55:31,359 detention ponds underneath John Day Road 5891 03:55:31,359 --> 03:55:34,800 and then out into that 97 acres. So the 5892 03:55:34,800 --> 03:55:37,840 the property owner of the 97 acres and 5893 03:55:37,840 --> 03:55:40,399 the developer of LRL 5894 03:55:40,399 --> 03:55:42,319 have an agreement in place and have a 5895 03:55:42,319 --> 03:55:44,080 set of construction plans that they gave 5896 03:55:44,080 --> 03:55:46,160 to us two weeks ago that said here's 5897 03:55:46,160 --> 03:55:48,479 what we need to do here. And I said, you 5898 03:55:48,479 --> 03:55:51,680 know, this seems reasonable, but we need 5899 03:55:51,680 --> 03:55:54,160 to make sure that when you guys go and 5900 03:55:54,160 --> 03:55:56,880 do this that these coverts are set at 5901 03:55:56,880 --> 03:55:58,560 the right elevation so that they can 5902 03:55:58,560 --> 03:56:00,319 accommodate the ultimate roadway 5903 03:56:00,319 --> 03:56:03,439 improvements. Does that make sense to do 5904 03:56:03,439 --> 03:56:05,279 that? You know, they're not proposing to 5905 03:56:05,279 --> 03:56:08,239 go design the road. Um, I did tell them 5906 03:56:08,239 --> 03:56:09,840 that, you know, it's going to take us a 5907 03:56:09,840 --> 03:56:11,439 little bit of time to figure out from 5908 03:56:11,439 --> 03:56:14,080 the city's perspective what what the 5909 03:56:14,080 --> 03:56:16,000 necessary elevation of those facilities 5910 03:56:16,000 --> 03:56:17,840 should be, the sizing of them because 5911 03:56:17,840 --> 03:56:21,040 it's crossing underneath the road um is 5912 03:56:21,040 --> 03:56:23,600 is is set up to just take their flow 5913 03:56:23,600 --> 03:56:26,720 from their detention pond. And so we've 5914 03:56:26,720 --> 03:56:29,840 got some money in here to do basically 5915 03:56:29,840 --> 03:56:34,399 the schematic design of that roadway as 5916 03:56:34,399 --> 03:56:38,080 part of this next year's budget and 5917 03:56:38,080 --> 03:56:41,439 coordinate with the lapel folks and 5918 03:56:41,439 --> 03:56:43,760 their their project. I think they're 5919 03:56:43,760 --> 03:56:45,760 they're hoping to have those facilities 5920 03:56:45,760 --> 03:56:49,760 in place by March of 27. That's when 5921 03:56:49,760 --> 03:56:51,040 they really need to have those 5922 03:56:51,040 --> 03:56:54,000 facilities in place. And so we we 5923 03:56:54,000 --> 03:56:56,640 haven't even really we just got the 5924 03:56:56,640 --> 03:56:59,040 final grading plans for the subdivision. 5925 03:56:59,040 --> 03:57:01,120 They they sent those separate and aside 5926 03:57:01,120 --> 03:57:03,199 from the drainage improvements. So we 5927 03:57:03,199 --> 03:57:05,520 haven't really got into those. But um 5928 03:57:05,520 --> 03:57:06,950 >> will they have to shut down the road to 5929 03:57:06,950 --> 03:57:06,960 » will they have to shut down the road to 5930 03:57:06,960 --> 03:57:08,399 do part of this? 5931 03:57:08,399 --> 03:57:10,469 >> Oh, I'm sure they Yeah, it's they're 5932 03:57:10,469 --> 03:57:10,479 » Oh, I'm sure they Yeah, it's they're 5933 03:57:10,479 --> 03:57:13,040 they're box culverts. 5934 03:57:13,040 --> 03:57:14,720 So that will be one of the things that 5935 03:57:14,720 --> 03:57:17,040 we have to figure out is traffic control 5936 03:57:17,040 --> 03:57:17,760 and 5937 03:57:17,760 --> 03:57:19,110 >> when they're going to do it and how 5938 03:57:19,110 --> 03:57:19,120 » when they're going to do it and how 5939 03:57:19,120 --> 03:57:20,479 they're going to do it. Yes, sir. 5940 03:57:20,479 --> 03:57:23,750 >> 3:00 in the morning only. They're also 5941 03:57:23,750 --> 03:57:23,760 » 3:00 in the morning only. They're also 5942 03:57:23,760 --> 03:57:26,640 across the street working on that 16inch 5943 03:57:26,640 --> 03:57:28,800 water line 5944 03:57:28,800 --> 03:57:30,560 that they've been interrupted because 5945 03:57:30,560 --> 03:57:32,560 there's gas lines over there that they 5946 03:57:32,560 --> 03:57:33,840 didn't locate during the design. Be 5947 03:57:33,840 --> 03:57:34,710 >> a rough year. 5948 03:57:34,710 --> 03:57:34,720 » a rough year. 5949 03:57:34,720 --> 03:57:36,550 >> So, they found those out last was that 5950 03:57:36,550 --> 03:57:36,560 » So, they found those out last was that 5951 03:57:36,560 --> 03:57:37,359 last week? 5952 03:57:37,359 --> 03:57:39,110 >> What' you say, Jasmine? 5953 03:57:39,110 --> 03:57:39,120 » What' you say, Jasmine? 5954 03:57:39,120 --> 03:57:40,950 >> So, that project shut down while they go 5955 03:57:40,950 --> 03:57:40,960 » So, that project shut down while they go 5956 03:57:40,960 --> 03:57:42,960 back and redo their engineering plans 5957 03:57:42,960 --> 03:57:44,080 and send them back in. 5958 03:57:44,080 --> 03:57:46,150 >> So, that is not currently in our budget. 5959 03:57:46,150 --> 03:57:46,160 » So, that is not currently in our budget. 5960 03:57:46,160 --> 03:57:48,720 Correct. That 200,000. 5961 03:57:48,720 --> 03:57:50,150 >> That's right. That's correct. 5962 03:57:50,150 --> 03:57:50,160 » That's right. That's correct. 5963 03:57:50,160 --> 03:57:53,750 >> Yeah. So, if you wanted to add that um 5964 03:57:53,750 --> 03:57:53,760 » Yeah. So, if you wanted to add that um 5965 03:57:53,760 --> 03:57:55,110 >> I'm sorry, what do we need the 200,000 5966 03:57:55,110 --> 03:57:55,120 » I'm sorry, what do we need the 200,000 5967 03:57:55,120 --> 03:57:55,359 for? 5968 03:57:55,359 --> 03:57:56,229 >> 55 5969 03:57:56,229 --> 03:57:56,239 » 55 5970 03:57:56,239 --> 03:57:59,429 >> 200,000 would get the get John Day road 5971 03:57:59,429 --> 03:57:59,439 » 200,000 would get the get John Day road 5972 03:57:59,439 --> 03:58:01,840 set up for for an ultimate schematic 5973 03:58:01,840 --> 03:58:02,960 design. 5974 03:58:02,960 --> 03:58:05,590 >> Get a pavement design report, geotech, 5975 03:58:05,590 --> 03:58:05,600 » Get a pavement design report, geotech, 5976 03:58:05,600 --> 03:58:07,279 identify the rideway, get the rideway 5977 03:58:07,279 --> 03:58:09,920 docks prepared, do the horizontal and 5978 03:58:09,920 --> 03:58:10,880 vertical. 5979 03:58:10,880 --> 03:58:12,950 >> So, we would need we would need 200,000 5980 03:58:12,950 --> 03:58:12,960 » So, we would need we would need 200,000 5981 03:58:12,960 --> 03:58:15,040 this year, 800 the next year, 310 the 5982 03:58:15,040 --> 03:58:16,880 next year, and then 7.8 to build it. 5983 03:58:16,880 --> 03:58:18,550 >> That's Yeah, if you want some point 5984 03:58:18,550 --> 03:58:18,560 » That's Yeah, if you want some point 5985 03:58:18,560 --> 03:58:20,550 >> Yeah. If you wanted to do the $ 8.4 5986 03:58:20,550 --> 03:58:20,560 » Yeah. If you wanted to do the $ 8.4 5987 03:58:20,560 --> 03:58:22,560 million project, build four lanes of 5988 03:58:22,560 --> 03:58:24,319 concrete, 5989 03:58:24,319 --> 03:58:25,670 >> that's what it would take to get 5990 03:58:25,670 --> 03:58:25,680 » that's what it would take to get 5991 03:58:25,680 --> 03:58:27,510 >> four lanes of not the black top is there 5992 03:58:27,510 --> 03:58:27,520 » four lanes of not the black top is there 5993 03:58:27,520 --> 03:58:27,920 now. 5994 03:58:27,920 --> 03:58:29,349 >> Correct. Build it just like the north 5995 03:58:29,349 --> 03:58:29,359 » Correct. Build it just like the north 5996 03:58:29,359 --> 03:58:30,880 end in L. Yes, sir. 5997 03:58:30,880 --> 03:58:33,030 >> And that's without the roundabouts. 5998 03:58:33,030 --> 03:58:33,040 » And that's without the roundabouts. 5999 03:58:33,040 --> 03:58:35,110 >> No, I got the roundabouts factored in. 6000 03:58:35,110 --> 03:58:35,120 » No, I got the roundabouts factored in. 6001 03:58:35,120 --> 03:58:38,070 >> Okay. So, I kind of want to speak to 6002 03:58:38,070 --> 03:58:38,080 » Okay. So, I kind of want to speak to 6003 03:58:38,080 --> 03:58:41,199 everyone for a minute. To me, this road 6004 03:58:41,199 --> 03:58:43,120 would be one of the top most important 6005 03:58:43,120 --> 03:58:44,560 ones in the city besides the 6006 03:58:44,560 --> 03:58:46,560 intersections. And that's because we 6007 03:58:46,560 --> 03:58:48,640 have to look to the future for the 6008 03:58:48,640 --> 03:58:51,120 bridge and also the incoming traffic 6009 03:58:51,120 --> 03:58:53,680 from there's three streets emptying out. 6010 03:58:53,680 --> 03:58:56,880 And then also they haven't set exact 6011 03:58:56,880 --> 03:58:58,160 plans, but they can have anywhere from 6012 03:58:58,160 --> 03:58:59,760 two, correct me if I'm wrong, four. 6013 03:58:59,760 --> 03:59:01,600 Can't they have a total of four exits or 6014 03:59:01,600 --> 03:59:02,880 is it only the two 6015 03:59:02,880 --> 03:59:03,030 >> um 6016 03:59:03,030 --> 03:59:03,040 » um 6017 03:59:03,040 --> 03:59:05,269 >> for the ILA? That would be 6018 03:59:05,269 --> 03:59:05,279 » for the ILA? That would be 6019 03:59:05,279 --> 03:59:06,710 >> I thought l 6020 03:59:06,710 --> 03:59:06,720 » I thought l 6021 03:59:06,720 --> 03:59:08,950 >> No, four. 6022 03:59:08,950 --> 03:59:08,960 » No, four. 6023 03:59:08,960 --> 03:59:11,189 >> Uh triple T is five. 6024 03:59:11,189 --> 03:59:11,199 » Uh triple T is five. 6025 03:59:11,199 --> 03:59:12,630 >> Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought 6026 03:59:12,630 --> 03:59:12,640 » Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought 6027 03:59:12,640 --> 03:59:14,720 it was significantly more. So between 6028 03:59:14,720 --> 03:59:16,319 all that emptying out and then the 6029 03:59:16,319 --> 03:59:18,399 future construction where we will at 6030 03:59:18,399 --> 03:59:20,560 some point have that bridge exit shut 6031 03:59:20,560 --> 03:59:23,040 down, you're talking about a community 6032 03:59:23,040 --> 03:59:26,239 trapped to a a one each way, so two-lane 6033 03:59:26,239 --> 03:59:27,920 road. We're going to have a huge problem 6034 03:59:27,920 --> 03:59:30,399 if we don't get ahead of fixing John 6035 03:59:30,399 --> 03:59:30,880 Day. 6036 03:59:30,880 --> 03:59:31,429 >> Absolutely. 6037 03:59:31,429 --> 03:59:31,439 » Absolutely. 6038 03:59:31,439 --> 03:59:33,189 >> Um and that's not just a traffic 6039 03:59:33,189 --> 03:59:33,199 » Um and that's not just a traffic 6040 03:59:33,199 --> 03:59:36,800 concern, it's a safety concern. Um, I 6041 03:59:36,800 --> 03:59:39,120 personally would like to see us 6042 03:59:39,120 --> 03:59:40,880 prioritize this, even if we have to 6043 03:59:40,880 --> 03:59:43,359 remove something else, and put a million 6044 03:59:43,359 --> 03:59:45,279 to start getting that rightway acquired 6045 03:59:45,279 --> 03:59:46,479 because it's just going to get more 6046 03:59:46,479 --> 03:59:49,840 expensive. Um, and so we can also start 6047 03:59:49,840 --> 03:59:52,239 speaking to our partners about getting 6048 03:59:52,239 --> 03:59:53,439 them to go in on the funding. The 6049 03:59:53,439 --> 03:59:55,120 rightway is just really important. 6050 03:59:55,120 --> 03:59:56,479 They're about to start building on 6051 03:59:56,479 --> 03:59:58,000 Triple T. They're trying to figure out 6052 03:59:58,000 --> 03:59:59,920 who's interested. I think we get the 6053 03:59:59,920 --> 04:00:01,600 right away while that land's empty. It's 6054 04:00:01,600 --> 04:00:02,880 going to be a little easier and probably 6055 04:00:02,880 --> 04:00:04,640 a little cheaper. Just 6056 04:00:04,640 --> 04:00:07,910 >> when we talk about that Monday night, 6057 04:00:07,910 --> 04:00:07,920 » when we talk about that Monday night, 6058 04:00:07,920 --> 04:00:09,670 >> I I'm talking about putting it in the 6059 04:00:09,670 --> 04:00:09,680 » I I'm talking about putting it in the 6060 04:00:09,680 --> 04:00:10,960 budget for next year. 6061 04:00:10,960 --> 04:00:12,950 >> Okay. 6062 04:00:12,950 --> 04:00:12,960 » Okay. 6063 04:00:12,960 --> 04:00:14,550 >> Not the details. I just think we should 6064 04:00:14,550 --> 04:00:14,560 » Not the details. I just think we should 6065 04:00:14,560 --> 04:00:16,720 put more than even if we don't do all 6066 04:00:16,720 --> 04:00:18,640 I'm Well, that's one landowner. Wouldn't 6067 04:00:18,640 --> 04:00:19,680 it be one purchase? 6068 04:00:19,680 --> 04:00:20,950 >> Yeah, it'd be pretty straightforward. 6069 04:00:20,950 --> 04:00:20,960 » Yeah, it'd be pretty straightforward. 6070 04:00:20,960 --> 04:00:23,199 It's just expensive. 6071 04:00:23,199 --> 04:00:25,590 >> So 1 million would be the 200,000 for 6072 04:00:25,590 --> 04:00:25,600 » So 1 million would be the 200,000 for 6073 04:00:25,600 --> 04:00:26,960 this year and the 800,000. 6074 04:00:26,960 --> 04:00:29,110 >> You want to slide that 800 over to this 6075 04:00:29,110 --> 04:00:29,120 » You want to slide that 800 over to this 6076 04:00:29,120 --> 04:00:29,760 year? 6077 04:00:29,760 --> 04:00:31,349 >> I think we need to. We're going to have 6078 04:00:31,349 --> 04:00:31,359 » I think we need to. We're going to have 6079 04:00:31,359 --> 04:00:32,960 to move this up the bridge. Let's let's 6080 04:00:32,960 --> 04:00:35,279 put in the 1 million if that's if we 6081 04:00:35,279 --> 04:00:36,720 agree and then we can go back and look 6082 04:00:36,720 --> 04:00:37,920 and see 6083 04:00:37,920 --> 04:00:40,389 >> how that plays out with in the budget. 6084 04:00:40,389 --> 04:00:40,399 » how that plays out with in the budget. 6085 04:00:40,399 --> 04:00:41,830 >> Mike, would you agree that it'll get 6086 04:00:41,830 --> 04:00:41,840 » Mike, would you agree that it'll get 6087 04:00:41,840 --> 04:00:43,279 more expensive as they develop that 6088 04:00:43,279 --> 04:00:45,760 land, especially if they parcel it out 6089 04:00:45,760 --> 04:00:47,199 to different 6090 04:00:47,199 --> 04:00:50,790 >> Yes. And we don't we've been told by the 6091 04:00:50,790 --> 04:00:50,800 » Yes. And we don't we've been told by the 6092 04:00:50,800 --> 04:00:52,640 by the property owner that they don't 6093 04:00:52,640 --> 04:00:54,800 have any intent to plat the property 6094 04:00:54,800 --> 04:00:56,720 that they intent to parcel it out in 10 6095 04:00:56,720 --> 04:01:01,040 acre parcels or more which would then 6096 04:01:01,040 --> 04:01:04,160 multip them to dedicate right away. 6097 04:01:04,160 --> 04:01:05,510 >> Okay. So we do need to get in front of 6098 04:01:05,510 --> 04:01:05,520 » Okay. So we do need to get in front of 6099 04:01:05,520 --> 04:01:06,399 this in your 6100 04:01:06,399 --> 04:01:08,710 >> Yes. I would recommend that. And I I 6101 04:01:08,710 --> 04:01:08,720 » Yes. I would recommend that. And I I 6102 04:01:08,720 --> 04:01:11,040 mean I yeah I agree with the $1 million 6103 04:01:11,040 --> 04:01:13,701 placeholder, but we also possibly 6104 04:01:13,701 --> 04:01:15,760 [clears throat] hopefully you have a 6105 04:01:15,760 --> 04:01:17,600 little bit of the right of way for the 6106 04:01:17,600 --> 04:01:19,680 John Day improvements could be less. And 6107 04:01:19,680 --> 04:01:21,600 then there's a couple other things I I 6108 04:01:21,600 --> 04:01:23,199 want to talk about possibly sliding out. 6109 04:01:23,199 --> 04:01:24,960 So I'm okay with 1 million because I 6110 04:01:24,960 --> 04:01:26,640 agree with what you said. 6111 04:01:26,640 --> 04:01:28,710 >> And then just for future Mike, when 6112 04:01:28,710 --> 04:01:28,720 » And then just for future Mike, when 6113 04:01:28,720 --> 04:01:30,319 you're doing the rightway acquisition 6114 04:01:30,319 --> 04:01:32,560 for this, I would like to possibly be a 6115 04:01:32,560 --> 04:01:34,560 part of it with Joe. We did establish 6116 04:01:34,560 --> 04:01:36,479 kind of a relationship with them back a 6117 04:01:36,479 --> 04:01:39,199 few months ago. I think just if we can 6118 04:01:39,199 --> 04:01:42,399 be a part of those conversations. 6119 04:01:42,399 --> 04:01:45,110 >> Understood. 6120 04:01:45,110 --> 04:01:45,120 » Understood. 6121 04:01:45,120 --> 04:01:47,429 >> Um 6122 04:01:47,429 --> 04:01:47,439 » Um 6123 04:01:47,439 --> 04:01:47,760 Mike, 6124 04:01:47,760 --> 04:01:50,070 >> so is there consensus on that? 6125 04:01:50,070 --> 04:01:50,080 » so is there consensus on that? 6126 04:01:50,080 --> 04:01:52,550 >> So how much money are you adding 6127 04:01:52,550 --> 04:01:52,560 » So how much money are you adding 6128 04:01:52,560 --> 04:01:54,880 million? What project? John Day Road. 6129 04:01:54,880 --> 04:01:56,469 >> There's no line. So it' be a new line 6130 04:01:56,469 --> 04:01:56,479 » There's no line. So it' be a new line 6131 04:01:56,479 --> 04:01:58,800 item for SD51 million. 6132 04:01:58,800 --> 04:02:01,189 >> I'm going with 1 million, Chris. 6133 04:02:01,189 --> 04:02:01,199 » I'm going with 1 million, Chris. 6134 04:02:01,199 --> 04:02:02,870 >> And that is for right away. 6135 04:02:02,870 --> 04:02:02,880 » And that is for right away. 6136 04:02:02,880 --> 04:02:04,150 >> Undecided. 6137 04:02:04,150 --> 04:02:04,160 » Undecided. 6138 04:02:04,160 --> 04:02:06,150 >> Schematic and right away. I thought you 6139 04:02:06,150 --> 04:02:06,160 » Schematic and right away. I thought you 6140 04:02:06,160 --> 04:02:07,760 guys were doing a stare down. 6141 04:02:07,760 --> 04:02:09,269 >> We We got to get ahead of it. We can't 6142 04:02:09,269 --> 04:02:09,279 » We We got to get ahead of it. We can't 6143 04:02:09,279 --> 04:02:10,560 We We We got to get going. 6144 04:02:10,560 --> 04:02:12,469 >> I would give up like almost anything 6145 04:02:12,469 --> 04:02:12,479 » I would give up like almost anything 6146 04:02:12,479 --> 04:02:13,840 else just because I I 6147 04:02:13,840 --> 04:02:14,950 >> have some ideas to get 6148 04:02:14,950 --> 04:02:14,960 » have some ideas to get 6149 04:02:14,960 --> 04:02:16,389 >> I'm trying to get a hold of the numbers. 6150 04:02:16,389 --> 04:02:16,399 » I'm trying to get a hold of the numbers. 6151 04:02:16,399 --> 04:02:17,199 Y'all just signed 6152 04:02:17,199 --> 04:02:19,750 >> 1 million schematic and rideway John Day 6153 04:02:19,750 --> 04:02:19,760 » 1 million schematic and rideway John Day 6154 04:02:19,760 --> 04:02:20,960 Road South. 6155 04:02:20,960 --> 04:02:23,349 >> Okay. You've got that already. 6156 04:02:23,349 --> 04:02:23,359 » Okay. You've got that already. 6157 04:02:23,359 --> 04:02:25,510 >> Oh, you going to move the 800,000 up 6158 04:02:25,510 --> 04:02:25,520 » Oh, you going to move the 800,000 up 6159 04:02:25,520 --> 04:02:27,520 now? No, I'm I'm saying we're putting 6160 04:02:27,520 --> 04:02:29,359 one million We would like to put $1 6161 04:02:29,359 --> 04:02:33,040 million into the budget for project SD5, 6162 04:02:33,040 --> 04:02:35,520 which is John Day Road South schematic 6163 04:02:35,520 --> 04:02:36,880 and right ofway. 6164 04:02:36,880 --> 04:02:39,830 >> That 200,000 is not in the current. So, 6165 04:02:39,830 --> 04:02:39,840 » That 200,000 is not in the current. So, 6166 04:02:39,840 --> 04:02:42,640 they're putting both years in. 6167 04:02:42,640 --> 04:02:43,670 >> Correct. 6168 04:02:43,670 --> 04:02:43,680 » Correct. 6169 04:02:43,680 --> 04:02:45,830 >> So, we're going to replace the 200,000 6170 04:02:45,830 --> 04:02:45,840 » So, we're going to replace the 200,000 6171 04:02:45,840 --> 04:02:48,800 with 1 million and put 6172 04:02:48,800 --> 04:02:52,309 >> the 200,000 is not in the proposed. So, 6173 04:02:52,309 --> 04:02:52,319 » the 200,000 is not in the proposed. So, 6174 04:02:52,319 --> 04:02:54,319 they're adding a million, 6175 04:02:54,319 --> 04:03:07,510 >> right? That that's what I said. Okay. 6176 04:03:07,520 --> 04:03:09,120 » Okay. 6177 04:03:09,120 --> 04:03:10,630 >> Uh Mike, one question. 6178 04:03:10,630 --> 04:03:10,640 » Uh Mike, one question. 6179 04:03:10,640 --> 04:03:12,070 >> Yes sir. 6180 04:03:12,070 --> 04:03:12,080 » Yes sir. 6181 04:03:12,080 --> 04:03:18,630 >> Um so in 20 29 20 2930 we need 7.8. Is 6182 04:03:18,630 --> 04:03:18,640 » Um so in 20 29 20 2930 we need 7.8. Is 6183 04:03:18,640 --> 04:03:21,600 there some way that uh we can 6184 04:03:21,600 --> 04:03:24,309 >> Sorry, did I say it wrong? 6185 04:03:24,309 --> 04:03:24,319 » Sorry, did I say it wrong? 6186 04:03:24,319 --> 04:03:29,199 at on 20 2930 7.8 to to finish this. 6187 04:03:29,199 --> 04:03:30,950 >> It could be a year earlier if because 6188 04:03:30,950 --> 04:03:30,960 » It could be a year earlier if because 6189 04:03:30,960 --> 04:03:32,640 we're putting year one and two already 6190 04:03:32,640 --> 04:03:33,359 in. 6191 04:03:33,359 --> 04:03:33,750 >> I know, 6192 04:03:33,750 --> 04:03:33,760 » I know, 6193 04:03:33,760 --> 04:03:34,630 >> but what Yeah. 6194 04:03:34,630 --> 04:03:34,640 » but what Yeah. 6195 04:03:34,640 --> 04:03:37,590 >> Um we currently don't have the money to 6196 04:03:37,590 --> 04:03:37,600 » Um we currently don't have the money to 6197 04:03:37,600 --> 04:03:40,000 do all this at once. So is there and 6198 04:03:40,000 --> 04:03:42,560 that would be wonder if we did. Um but 6199 04:03:42,560 --> 04:03:44,800 can is there somebody like at Lapril or 6200 04:03:44,800 --> 04:03:46,479 is there somebody like that that we 6201 04:03:46,479 --> 04:03:47,680 could talk to or is there a way that 6202 04:03:47,680 --> 04:03:50,239 lapel could help us out with this money? 6203 04:03:50,239 --> 04:03:52,000 Um I think we've talked about this 6204 04:03:52,000 --> 04:03:53,520 recently, but could you is that 6205 04:03:53,520 --> 04:03:54,800 something we could talk about now or is 6206 04:03:54,800 --> 04:03:55,120 that 6207 04:03:55,120 --> 04:03:56,790 >> We could also talk to ENTOG. We could 6208 04:03:56,790 --> 04:03:56,800 » We could also talk to ENTOG. We could 6209 04:03:56,800 --> 04:03:58,319 also do a bond. I mean all 6210 04:03:58,319 --> 04:03:59,750 >> Yeah. One of one of the things that I 6211 04:03:59,750 --> 04:03:59,760 » Yeah. One of one of the things that I 6212 04:03:59,760 --> 04:04:01,439 would recommend is that some discussion 6213 04:04:01,439 --> 04:04:04,160 be held with Fort Worth because there's 6214 04:04:04,160 --> 04:04:06,560 uh the the impact fees that are going to 6215 04:04:06,560 --> 04:04:09,040 be paid by the builder, which is Laprell 6216 04:04:09,040 --> 04:04:11,520 himself. He had to build all of Waggley 6217 04:04:11,520 --> 04:04:14,960 Robertson through his subdivision. and 6218 04:04:14,960 --> 04:04:17,840 they were talking about uh the 6219 04:04:17,840 --> 04:04:20,399 possibility of the him also paying 6220 04:04:20,399 --> 04:04:23,120 impact fees. We looked into and we had 6221 04:04:23,120 --> 04:04:25,840 some discussions with the impact fee uh 6222 04:04:25,840 --> 04:04:27,680 program manager for Fort Worth a couple 6223 04:04:27,680 --> 04:04:29,680 years ago. She said that they couldn't 6224 04:04:29,680 --> 04:04:31,520 remit those impact fees to us because 6225 04:04:31,520 --> 04:04:33,840 that road wasn't identified in their 6226 04:04:33,840 --> 04:04:36,399 impact fee program. But I would suggest 6227 04:04:36,399 --> 04:04:38,239 that maybe some additional discussions 6228 04:04:38,239 --> 04:04:40,640 be held with Fort Worth and just do it 6229 04:04:40,640 --> 04:04:42,880 through an agreement of some sort. We've 6230 04:04:42,880 --> 04:04:46,399 we've we've got the data that shows the 6231 04:04:46,399 --> 04:04:48,880 percentage of traffic um onto that 6232 04:04:48,880 --> 04:04:52,160 roadway. Uh the the adjacent property is 6233 04:04:52,160 --> 04:04:54,319 currently located in the county. So, 6234 04:04:54,319 --> 04:04:55,439 we've got a a 6235 04:04:55,439 --> 04:04:56,309 >> good argument, 6236 04:04:56,309 --> 04:04:56,319 » good argument, 6237 04:04:56,319 --> 04:04:58,309 >> a breakdown and we've also got the 6238 04:04:58,309 --> 04:04:58,319 » a breakdown and we've also got the 6239 04:04:58,319 --> 04:05:01,279 background traffic from Lata. So, I 6240 04:05:01,279 --> 04:05:03,920 think those discussions need to occur um 6241 04:05:03,920 --> 04:05:06,000 in order to find some additional 6242 04:05:06,000 --> 04:05:08,160 partners to chip away at that 7.8 6243 04:05:08,160 --> 04:05:10,399 million. 6244 04:05:10,399 --> 04:05:12,319 But the but the initial funding and the 6245 04:05:12,319 --> 04:05:14,640 initial lifting and agreements and all 6246 04:05:14,640 --> 04:05:16,239 the things it's it's important to get 6247 04:05:16,239 --> 04:05:18,560 that going because it's this one this 6248 04:05:18,560 --> 04:05:20,800 one should go quicker I think than the 6249 04:05:20,800 --> 04:05:22,319 intersections because there's fewer 6250 04:05:22,319 --> 04:05:24,160 utilities to move and you're only 6251 04:05:24,160 --> 04:05:25,439 dealing with one particular property 6252 04:05:25,439 --> 04:05:27,040 owner for right away. If we started 6253 04:05:27,040 --> 04:05:28,560 meeting with the Fort Worth and Laprrell 6254 04:05:28,560 --> 04:05:30,960 and all that and with the impact fees 6255 04:05:30,960 --> 04:05:32,800 and stuff, that's something that we 6256 04:05:32,800 --> 04:05:34,800 could probably start now discussions and 6257 04:05:34,800 --> 04:05:36,560 maybe next year hopefully, you know, 6258 04:05:36,560 --> 04:05:38,080 those discussions go good, get some 6259 04:05:38,080 --> 04:05:40,160 extra money to help out. 6260 04:05:40,160 --> 04:05:40,550 >> Is that correct? 6261 04:05:40,550 --> 04:05:40,560 » Is that correct? 6262 04:05:40,560 --> 04:05:42,070 >> Yeah, I think that there's there's money 6263 04:05:42,070 --> 04:05:42,080 » Yeah, I think that there's there's money 6264 04:05:42,080 --> 04:05:44,720 in here to to support that effort from 6265 04:05:44,720 --> 04:05:46,399 our perspective. We could we could 6266 04:05:46,399 --> 04:05:48,239 definitely support whatever 6267 04:05:48,239 --> 04:05:50,070 >> whatever discussions need to be had. 6268 04:05:50,070 --> 04:05:50,080 » whatever discussions need to be had. 6269 04:05:50,080 --> 04:05:51,920 We've got the breakdown of traffic. We 6270 04:05:51,920 --> 04:05:53,600 just really need to get a little bit 6271 04:05:53,600 --> 04:05:55,600 into the design so we can fine-tune that 6272 04:05:55,600 --> 04:05:59,040 cost a little bit and u ultimately 6273 04:05:59,040 --> 04:06:00,960 decide on a footprint in the rideway. 6274 04:06:00,960 --> 04:06:02,070 >> Exactly. Yeah. When I brought this 6275 04:06:02,070 --> 04:06:02,080 » Exactly. Yeah. When I brought this 6276 04:06:02,080 --> 04:06:05,120 forward a few months ago or six weeks 6277 04:06:05,120 --> 04:06:07,199 ago, um that was the whole intent is to 6278 04:06:07,199 --> 04:06:09,520 just get this to kind of the schematics 6279 04:06:09,520 --> 04:06:12,080 and try to get the rightway acquired 6280 04:06:12,080 --> 04:06:13,920 because it sets us up for them to want 6281 04:06:13,920 --> 04:06:15,439 to partner with us when we're too far 6282 04:06:15,439 --> 04:06:16,479 out into the future. They're like, 6283 04:06:16,479 --> 04:06:18,800 "Maybe I can help you, maybe I can't." 6284 04:06:18,800 --> 04:06:20,160 Like what does it look like? What are 6285 04:06:20,160 --> 04:06:22,319 exactly are we asking for from them? And 6286 04:06:22,319 --> 04:06:24,479 how ready to go are we? Because also 6287 04:06:24,479 --> 04:06:28,399 Hasllet has a tendency of kind of 6288 04:06:28,399 --> 04:06:30,239 not agreeing on the path forward and in 6289 04:06:30,239 --> 04:06:32,000 this situation we're saying we're all 6290 04:06:32,000 --> 04:06:33,840 moving forward in this. This is how much 6291 04:06:33,840 --> 04:06:35,840 we need to get it done. Here's the 6292 04:06:35,840 --> 04:06:37,680 benefit. Here's the studies. So we go 6293 04:06:37,680 --> 04:06:39,520 with them to or go to them with 6294 04:06:39,520 --> 04:06:43,680 everything we need and just say help us 6295 04:06:43,680 --> 04:06:53,429 please. 6296 04:06:53,439 --> 04:06:55,040 » So 6297 04:06:55,040 --> 04:06:57,439 where we landed was 1 million, right? 6298 04:06:57,439 --> 04:06:59,535 >> Okay. 6299 04:06:59,535 --> 04:06:59,545 » Okay. 6300 04:06:59,545 --> 04:07:00,880 [clears throat] 6301 04:07:00,880 --> 04:07:04,229 >> Okay. Next project we have uh fund 20 6302 04:07:04,229 --> 04:07:04,239 » Okay. Next project we have uh fund 20 6303 04:07:04,239 --> 04:07:06,160 roadway improvements. 6304 04:07:06,160 --> 04:07:09,199 Um I don't have the sheets you all have. 6305 04:07:09,199 --> 04:07:10,070 >> They're all in. 6306 04:07:10,070 --> 04:07:10,080 » They're all in. 6307 04:07:10,080 --> 04:07:10,710 >> They're all in 6308 04:07:10,710 --> 04:07:10,720 » They're all in 6309 04:07:10,720 --> 04:07:13,590 >> in the transportation tax fund. 6310 04:07:13,590 --> 04:07:13,600 » in the transportation tax fund. 6311 04:07:13,600 --> 04:07:16,229 >> So So let's walk through these real 6312 04:07:16,229 --> 04:07:16,239 » So So let's walk through these real 6313 04:07:16,239 --> 04:07:17,600 quick one by one. They're pretty 6314 04:07:17,600 --> 04:07:20,000 straightforward projects. First one is a 6315 04:07:20,000 --> 04:07:22,319 set of striping and pavement marking 6316 04:07:22,319 --> 04:07:24,720 improvements that we recommend being 6317 04:07:24,720 --> 04:07:28,239 done uh for Westport Interotal Harmon 6318 04:07:28,239 --> 04:07:31,279 Blue Mound Keller Hasslet. I think um 6319 04:07:31,279 --> 04:07:33,520 we're still under we're still under 6320 04:07:33,520 --> 04:07:35,680 maintenance on that one. So, I put a 6321 04:07:35,680 --> 04:07:38,000 note in to get that one dealt with. I 6322 04:07:38,000 --> 04:07:40,160 did see that those pavement markings 6323 04:07:40,160 --> 04:07:43,680 aren't holding up too well at 156. 6324 04:07:43,680 --> 04:07:45,439 So, we've got a note in to get with our 6325 04:07:45,439 --> 04:07:47,920 contractor on that, but just some 6326 04:07:47,920 --> 04:07:50,080 pavement marking and improvements and we 6327 04:07:50,080 --> 04:07:52,319 we feel like that's a good good number 6328 04:07:52,319 --> 04:07:55,520 to start with for those. Um, 6329 04:07:55,520 --> 04:07:58,479 Verona emergency repair. 6330 04:07:58,479 --> 04:08:00,239 Did we were we trying to get that done 6331 04:08:00,239 --> 04:08:02,560 in this budget? 6332 04:08:02,560 --> 04:08:02,960 That's 6333 04:08:02,960 --> 04:08:04,469 >> this budget year is taken care of 6334 04:08:04,469 --> 04:08:04,479 » this budget year is taken care of 6335 04:08:04,479 --> 04:08:05,120 already. 6336 04:08:05,120 --> 04:08:06,389 >> Okay. 6337 04:08:06,389 --> 04:08:06,399 » Okay. 6338 04:08:06,399 --> 04:08:08,950 >> So, that one's done. 6339 04:08:08,950 --> 04:08:08,960 » So, that one's done. 6340 04:08:08,960 --> 04:08:12,319 Then we had Hasset Park interim repairs. 6341 04:08:12,319 --> 04:08:14,720 Real similar to that recent set of 6342 04:08:14,720 --> 04:08:16,160 improvements that was done back in 6343 04:08:16,160 --> 04:08:18,960 April, May where we came in and got rid 6344 04:08:18,960 --> 04:08:21,439 of that busted up unreinforced concrete 6345 04:08:21,439 --> 04:08:23,920 and put down hot mix. 6346 04:08:23,920 --> 04:08:26,880 I think we anticipate what was it 6347 04:08:26,880 --> 04:08:30,000 Shriber that needed the next set of 6348 04:08:30,000 --> 04:08:33,040 interim repairs. Was 6349 04:08:33,040 --> 04:08:35,359 that the is that the 100,000? I see 6350 04:08:35,359 --> 04:08:37,680 100,000. 6351 04:08:37,680 --> 04:08:43,189 >> Um, water crest. We had Verona. Um, 6352 04:08:43,189 --> 04:08:43,199 » Um, water crest. We had Verona. Um, 6353 04:08:43,199 --> 04:08:45,840 this is Verona. I I pulled this out. 6354 04:08:45,840 --> 04:08:47,760 This was from last year. I think I 6355 04:08:47,760 --> 04:08:50,319 presented this. This 6356 04:08:50,319 --> 04:08:52,560 is the half million dollar block right 6357 04:08:52,560 --> 04:08:55,199 here. This has to get rebuilt. We 6358 04:08:55,199 --> 04:08:58,080 anticipate the source of that failure is 6359 04:08:58,080 --> 04:08:59,920 inadequate compaction on that sewer 6360 04:08:59,920 --> 04:09:01,840 trench. And so we were proposing to come 6361 04:09:01,840 --> 04:09:05,760 back in and uh get that all rebuilt in a 6362 04:09:05,760 --> 04:09:07,359 manner consistent with what the 6363 04:09:07,359 --> 04:09:09,199 developer had done in Sweetgrass phase 6364 04:09:09,199 --> 04:09:11,520 2. Now 6365 04:09:11,520 --> 04:09:13,750 >> that's in water crest. That's Verona. 6366 04:09:13,750 --> 04:09:13,760 » that's in water crest. That's Verona. 6367 04:09:13,760 --> 04:09:14,080 Yes. 6368 04:09:14,080 --> 04:09:16,309 >> So that's on on top of the 6369 04:09:16,309 --> 04:09:16,319 » So that's on on top of the 6370 04:09:16,319 --> 04:09:17,990 >> Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. 6371 04:09:17,990 --> 04:09:18,000 » Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. 6372 04:09:18,000 --> 04:09:18,950 >> It's in the vines. 6373 04:09:18,950 --> 04:09:18,960 » It's in the vines. 6374 04:09:18,960 --> 04:09:20,229 >> Oh, the vines. I'm sorry. 6375 04:09:20,229 --> 04:09:20,239 » Oh, the vines. I'm sorry. 6376 04:09:20,239 --> 04:09:24,630 >> That's their main main and out. 6377 04:09:24,630 --> 04:09:24,640 » That's their main main and out. 6378 04:09:24,640 --> 04:09:27,990 >> So there's two Verona repairs. No, this 6379 04:09:27,990 --> 04:09:28,000 » So there's two Verona repairs. No, this 6380 04:09:28,000 --> 04:09:30,880 is this is the only ver well there was a 6381 04:09:30,880 --> 04:09:33,600 Verona emergency repair. 6382 04:09:33,600 --> 04:09:35,510 >> Yeah, we did a repair earlier in the 6383 04:09:35,510 --> 04:09:35,520 » Yeah, we did a repair earlier in the 6384 04:09:35,520 --> 04:09:38,080 year and then this is pretty critical 6385 04:09:38,080 --> 04:09:39,760 that this gets done. This is just 6386 04:09:39,760 --> 04:09:40,560 further down. 6387 04:09:40,560 --> 04:09:44,389 >> This is ma'am total. It's already 6388 04:09:44,389 --> 04:09:44,399 » This is ma'am total. It's already 6389 04:09:44,399 --> 04:09:46,309 >> this is just represent about 500,000 of 6390 04:09:46,309 --> 04:09:46,319 » this is just represent about 500,000 of 6391 04:09:46,319 --> 04:09:47,439 that 750. 6392 04:09:47,439 --> 04:09:50,870 >> Yeah. 6393 04:09:50,880 --> 04:09:52,560 » And this section here really is critical 6394 04:09:52,560 --> 04:09:55,840 that it gets done. It's it is they got 6395 04:09:55,840 --> 04:09:57,760 intermediate repairs just asphalt on top 6396 04:09:57,760 --> 04:09:59,359 of stuff but it is so much pavement 6397 04:09:59,359 --> 04:10:02,720 movement. It is absolutely have to be 6398 04:10:02,720 --> 04:10:05,120 done. 6399 04:10:05,120 --> 04:10:07,990 >> So the the north north Glenn Wimberly 6400 04:10:07,990 --> 04:10:08,000 » So the the north north Glenn Wimberly 6401 04:10:08,000 --> 04:10:10,640 those those are under construction as we 6402 04:10:10,640 --> 04:10:12,080 speak. Those were authorized by the 6403 04:10:12,080 --> 04:10:14,640 council on the third 6404 04:10:14,640 --> 04:10:15,510 >> level one. 6405 04:10:15,510 --> 04:10:15,520 » level one. 6406 04:10:15,520 --> 04:10:15,910 >> Yes. 6407 04:10:15,910 --> 04:10:15,920 » Yes. 6408 04:10:15,920 --> 04:10:16,710 >> Okay. 6409 04:10:16,710 --> 04:10:16,720 » Okay. 6410 04:10:16,720 --> 04:10:19,670 >> So I misspoke earlier. the Careway 6411 04:10:19,670 --> 04:10:19,680 » So I misspoke earlier. the Careway 6412 04:10:19,680 --> 04:10:22,720 entrance 500,000 is not in 6413 04:10:22,720 --> 04:10:26,309 >> but you added but I added $60,000 to 6414 04:10:26,309 --> 04:10:26,319 » but you added but I added $60,000 to 6415 04:10:26,319 --> 04:10:28,550 >> the [clears throat] 60 so there was 120 6416 04:10:28,550 --> 04:10:28,560 » the [clears throat] 60 so there was 120 6417 04:10:28,560 --> 04:10:29,600 total 120 6418 04:10:29,600 --> 04:10:29,990 >> yes 6419 04:10:29,990 --> 04:10:30,000 » yes 6420 04:10:30,000 --> 04:10:33,110 >> okay and the and the 750 right now in 6421 04:10:33,110 --> 04:10:33,120 » okay and the and the 750 right now in 6422 04:10:33,120 --> 04:10:35,199 the budget we estimate this right here 6423 04:10:35,199 --> 04:10:37,439 to be 500 so there'll 6424 04:10:37,439 --> 04:10:37,990 >> be some 6425 04:10:37,990 --> 04:10:38,000 » be some 6426 04:10:38,000 --> 04:10:39,429 >> I think there's going to be some 6427 04:10:39,429 --> 04:10:39,439 » I think there's going to be some 6428 04:10:39,439 --> 04:10:41,120 leftover yes ma'am 6429 04:10:41,120 --> 04:10:43,429 >> so looking on page 277 just to make make 6430 04:10:43,429 --> 04:10:43,439 » so looking on page 277 just to make make 6431 04:10:43,439 --> 04:10:46,239 sure I'm on the same page I have 120,000 6432 04:10:46,239 --> 04:10:48,080 for the careway 6433 04:10:48,080 --> 04:10:51,680 entrance is adding the s 100,000 Hassup 6434 04:10:51,680 --> 04:10:56,640 Park 250,000 phase one striping plan 6435 04:10:56,640 --> 04:10:59,760 200 No well yeah I'll leave the $200,000 6436 04:10:59,760 --> 04:11:03,760 for the Bane and then 750 for Verona 6437 04:11:03,760 --> 04:11:05,760 Wimberly is that that correct 6438 04:11:05,760 --> 04:11:10,950 >> okay 6439 04:11:10,960 --> 04:11:12,960 » so I'll update my spreadsheet to say 6440 04:11:12,960 --> 04:11:16,000 Careway entrances and I'll reflect the 6441 04:11:16,000 --> 04:11:17,279 120 6442 04:11:17,279 --> 04:11:18,720 and then we'll come up with a cost 6443 04:11:18,720 --> 04:11:20,160 estimate once we figure out how we're 6444 04:11:20,160 --> 04:11:21,120 going to get the water out of there 6445 04:11:21,120 --> 04:11:23,600 because we just threw some numbers in to 6446 04:11:23,600 --> 04:11:25,120 get the discussion going. 6447 04:11:25,120 --> 04:11:27,110 >> So, really quick, can um Marcy, can you 6448 04:11:27,110 --> 04:11:27,120 » So, really quick, can um Marcy, can you 6449 04:11:27,120 --> 04:11:29,840 also put SD6 on those in the back on 6450 04:11:29,840 --> 04:11:32,399 page 277 to align 6451 04:11:32,399 --> 04:11:33,670 >> through the rest of the document? And 6452 04:11:33,670 --> 04:11:33,680 » through the rest of the document? And 6453 04:11:33,680 --> 04:11:42,790 then the 200,000 for Bane is staying. 6454 04:11:42,800 --> 04:11:46,640 » Okay. And where is that on your Bane? 6455 04:11:46,640 --> 04:11:49,279 It's not because it was a current, 6456 04:11:49,279 --> 04:11:50,870 >> but if we if it gets done this fiscal 6457 04:11:50,870 --> 04:11:50,880 » but if we if it gets done this fiscal 6458 04:11:50,880 --> 04:11:52,479 year and that 200,000 will go back to 6459 04:11:52,479 --> 04:11:54,160 general fund. 6460 04:11:54,160 --> 04:11:55,990 >> It'll go back in the transportation tax. 6461 04:11:55,990 --> 04:11:56,000 » It'll go back in the transportation tax. 6462 04:11:56,000 --> 04:12:02,469 >> Transportation. Oh, yes. 20. Okay. 6463 04:12:02,479 --> 04:12:04,640 » Okay. So, Bane's not in your schedule. 6464 04:12:04,640 --> 04:12:05,920 So, this doesn't have anything for the 6465 04:12:05,920 --> 04:12:07,439 current year. It's only if it's going to 6466 04:12:07,439 --> 04:12:09,359 next year. 6467 04:12:09,359 --> 04:12:15,269 Got it. 6468 04:12:15,279 --> 04:12:17,600 So SD6, the fund 20 roadway 6469 04:12:17,600 --> 04:12:20,000 improvements. Everyone's 6470 04:12:20,000 --> 04:12:21,279 good with that. 6471 04:12:21,279 --> 04:12:23,109 >> Okay. 6472 04:12:23,109 --> 04:12:23,119 » Okay. 6473 04:12:23,119 --> 04:12:26,389 [clears throat] 6474 04:12:26,399 --> 04:12:28,880 » SD7 Hasslet Park reinforced concrete 6475 04:12:28,880 --> 04:12:30,720 paving. 6476 04:12:30,720 --> 04:12:32,960 There was there I believe there's money 6477 04:12:32,960 --> 04:12:36,399 in this year's budget to carry over and 6478 04:12:36,399 --> 04:12:39,439 get into the design for Hassa Park 6479 04:12:39,439 --> 04:12:41,520 concrete streets. 6480 04:12:41,520 --> 04:12:42,640 Where is that in the 6481 04:12:42,640 --> 04:12:46,389 >> There's a 120 that was added. 6482 04:12:46,389 --> 04:12:46,399 » There's a 120 that was added. 6483 04:12:46,399 --> 04:12:49,670 >> Um 120 I don't rather than the 180 6484 04:12:49,670 --> 04:12:49,680 » Um 120 I don't rather than the 180 6485 04:12:49,680 --> 04:12:50,720 that's on your sheet 6486 04:12:50,720 --> 04:12:53,429 >> back on the general fund. I I think that 6487 04:12:53,429 --> 04:12:53,439 » back on the general fund. I I think that 6488 04:12:53,439 --> 04:12:55,840 that's something that that was one of my 6489 04:12:55,840 --> 04:12:59,120 that was one of my um possible slideouts 6490 04:12:59,120 --> 04:13:04,000 or possible weights one year to focus on 6491 04:13:04,000 --> 04:13:06,720 the million the million of John Day 6492 04:13:06,720 --> 04:13:08,479 road. It's just a possibility we can 6493 04:13:08,479 --> 04:13:10,319 discuss as a council. 6494 04:13:10,319 --> 04:13:11,120 love too if he was 6495 04:13:11,120 --> 04:13:14,070 >> I know agree as a as a council person I 6496 04:13:14,070 --> 04:13:14,080 » I know agree as a as a council person I 6497 04:13:14,080 --> 04:13:16,239 have to think of the entire city not 6498 04:13:16,239 --> 04:13:18,960 just my subdivision that I love and all 6499 04:13:18,960 --> 04:13:22,000 my neighbors but I mean I was elected by 6500 04:13:22,000 --> 04:13:24,229 >> a lot of people and everybody and I know 6501 04:13:24,229 --> 04:13:24,239 » a lot of people and everybody and I know 6502 04:13:24,239 --> 04:13:25,920 a lot of people and a lot of 6503 04:13:25,920 --> 04:13:27,920 subdivisions either I taught them or I'm 6504 04:13:27,920 --> 04:13:29,359 friends with them or so I'm not just 6505 04:13:29,359 --> 04:13:31,359 thinking of myself or my neighborhood 6506 04:13:31,359 --> 04:13:34,000 ever and I think this is one item we 6507 04:13:34,000 --> 04:13:37,120 could possibly move one year out 6508 04:13:37,120 --> 04:13:40,309 >> comments conversation We actually 6509 04:13:40,309 --> 04:13:40,319 » comments conversation We actually 6510 04:13:40,319 --> 04:13:42,000 on it 6511 04:13:42,000 --> 04:13:44,950 >> the 120 Houselet Park reinforced 6512 04:13:44,950 --> 04:13:44,960 » the 120 Houselet Park reinforced 6513 04:13:44,960 --> 04:13:46,720 concrete paving design 6514 04:13:46,720 --> 04:13:48,630 >> that's in our general fund. 6515 04:13:48,630 --> 04:13:48,640 » that's in our general fund. 6516 04:13:48,640 --> 04:13:50,710 >> Speaking from another resident in House 6517 04:13:50,710 --> 04:13:50,720 » Speaking from another resident in House 6518 04:13:50,720 --> 04:13:53,040 of Park, I I I would love to get it done 6519 04:13:53,040 --> 04:13:55,199 now, but I think that the band-aids that 6520 04:13:55,199 --> 04:13:56,080 we 6521 04:13:56,080 --> 04:13:57,429 >> the band-aids that we did with the 6522 04:13:57,429 --> 04:13:57,439 » the band-aids that we did with the 6523 04:13:57,439 --> 04:14:00,080 asphalt has helped tremendously. 6524 04:14:00,080 --> 04:14:01,429 >> Um I don't feel like I'm going to pop my 6525 04:14:01,429 --> 04:14:01,439 » Um I don't feel like I'm going to pop my 6526 04:14:01,439 --> 04:14:04,720 tire every time I go down Barry. Um, 6527 04:14:04,720 --> 04:14:05,910 >> I mean, I would love to get it done 6528 04:14:05,910 --> 04:14:05,920 » I mean, I would love to get it done 6529 04:14:05,920 --> 04:14:08,640 because it's there's another spot on 6530 04:14:08,640 --> 04:14:10,080 Odessa when I was walking the other 6531 04:14:10,080 --> 04:14:13,199 morning that's pretty falling apart, but 6532 04:14:13,199 --> 04:14:15,439 I think the band-aid we did could last 6533 04:14:15,439 --> 04:14:17,359 us another year. But I don't 6534 04:14:17,359 --> 04:14:18,870 >> I know that there's residents in our 6535 04:14:18,870 --> 04:14:18,880 » I know that there's residents in our 6536 04:14:18,880 --> 04:14:20,880 neighborhood that keep asking me, and I 6537 04:14:20,880 --> 04:14:22,159 don't know about Tanya and Doug, when 6538 04:14:22,159 --> 04:14:24,479 are we going to get this done? But I 6539 04:14:24,479 --> 04:14:26,000 think if we can if we want to put that 6540 04:14:26,000 --> 04:14:27,600 off another year, I think that will be 6541 04:14:27,600 --> 04:14:28,800 okay because there are some other 6542 04:14:28,800 --> 04:14:30,880 projects we need to get going. But the 6543 04:14:30,880 --> 04:14:32,239 band-aid, if we didn't do the band-aid 6544 04:14:32,239 --> 04:14:35,199 or the asphalt, I would I would push 6545 04:14:35,199 --> 04:14:36,640 Tanya away right now. 6546 04:14:36,640 --> 04:14:37,830 >> You still want to push her away. It's 6547 04:14:37,830 --> 04:14:37,840 » You still want to push her away. It's 6548 04:14:37,840 --> 04:14:38,640 okay. 6549 04:14:38,640 --> 04:14:40,229 >> I I think that's I think that'll be okay 6550 04:14:40,229 --> 04:14:40,239 » I I think that's I think that'll be okay 6551 04:14:40,239 --> 04:14:42,080 because the the asphalt that we did 6552 04:14:42,080 --> 04:14:43,279 helped tremendously. So, I really 6553 04:14:43,279 --> 04:14:44,479 appreciate 6554 04:14:44,479 --> 04:14:47,590 >> um our engineering team and and city 6555 04:14:47,590 --> 04:14:47,600 » um our engineering team and and city 6556 04:14:47,600 --> 04:14:48,960 getting that public works getting that 6557 04:14:48,960 --> 04:14:49,840 done. 6558 04:14:49,840 --> 04:14:51,830 >> Can we also just ask really quick, Mike, 6559 04:14:51,830 --> 04:14:51,840 » Can we also just ask really quick, Mike, 6560 04:14:51,840 --> 04:14:53,520 James, where do you guys think Hasllet 6561 04:14:53,520 --> 04:14:55,600 Parkway is on the needs? Do you think 6562 04:14:55,600 --> 04:14:57,920 it's a one-year out, two-year out? Do we 6563 04:14:57,920 --> 04:14:59,520 need more money this year to potentially 6564 04:14:59,520 --> 04:15:01,520 patch? He's talking about another spot. 6565 04:15:01,520 --> 04:15:03,920 I'd just like to hear from you guys. 6566 04:15:03,920 --> 04:15:06,309 >> So, on the one one of the challenges 6567 04:15:06,309 --> 04:15:06,319 » So, on the one one of the challenges 6568 04:15:06,319 --> 04:15:08,960 with that one is because that material 6569 04:15:08,960 --> 04:15:10,800 is unpredictable. It is hard to say for 6570 04:15:10,800 --> 04:15:13,680 sure over the next year. Will we have 6571 04:15:13,680 --> 04:15:16,960 something considerable happen? It is 6572 04:15:16,960 --> 04:15:18,880 more likely we'll need to do something. 6573 04:15:18,880 --> 04:15:20,560 I think we could probably address it 6574 04:15:20,560 --> 04:15:23,439 with the regular uh street maintenance 6575 04:15:23,439 --> 04:15:25,199 repair budget. So, if we have something 6576 04:15:25,199 --> 04:15:26,960 that pops up, I think we can get a year 6577 04:15:26,960 --> 04:15:30,159 out. But we have the least amount of 6578 04:15:30,159 --> 04:15:32,399 experience and ability to predict what 6579 04:15:32,399 --> 04:15:34,720 those streets are going to do because 6580 04:15:34,720 --> 04:15:36,720 they rapidly got to the point they were 6581 04:15:36,720 --> 04:15:38,159 with the patches we did this year that 6582 04:15:38,159 --> 04:15:40,800 was unexpected. So, we know we have to 6583 04:15:40,800 --> 04:15:43,040 repave those roads. So, I think you're 6584 04:15:43,040 --> 04:15:45,120 safe to gamble another year, but not too 6585 04:15:45,120 --> 04:15:47,359 much further after that. Or you need to 6586 04:15:47,359 --> 04:15:49,359 put in money. If we're going to go too 6587 04:15:49,359 --> 04:15:50,800 much further past a year, put in money 6588 04:15:50,800 --> 04:15:52,880 for more intermediate, you know, asphalt 6589 04:15:52,880 --> 04:15:54,399 repairs. 6590 04:15:54,399 --> 04:15:56,399 Thank you, James. Mike, any addition? 6591 04:15:56,399 --> 04:15:58,630 >> I concur with James. That's I've never 6592 04:15:58,630 --> 04:15:58,640 » I concur with James. That's I've never 6593 04:15:58,640 --> 04:16:00,960 dealt with roads that don't have 6594 04:16:00,960 --> 04:16:02,880 reinforcement in them. So, it's pretty 6595 04:16:02,880 --> 04:16:03,520 tough for us. 6596 04:16:03,520 --> 04:16:04,870 >> They're not reinforced at all. 6597 04:16:04,870 --> 04:16:04,880 » They're not reinforced at all. 6598 04:16:04,880 --> 04:16:08,950 >> No, there's no reason. 6599 04:16:08,950 --> 04:16:08,960 » No, there's no reason. 6600 04:16:08,960 --> 04:16:12,070 >> That's why they the the first third of 6601 04:16:12,070 --> 04:16:12,080 » That's why they the the first third of 6602 04:16:12,080 --> 04:16:14,000 our street doesn't have rebar. They just 6603 04:16:14,000 --> 04:16:16,960 rolled it. The second two/3s um has 6604 04:16:16,960 --> 04:16:18,319 rebar and that's reason why it's really 6605 04:16:18,319 --> 04:16:20,080 strong and nice. the first third on each 6606 04:16:20,080 --> 04:16:21,520 street. That's the reason why it's 6607 04:16:21,520 --> 04:16:22,880 crumbling and falling apart because it 6608 04:16:22,880 --> 04:16:24,080 was never done right. And so that's the 6609 04:16:24,080 --> 04:16:25,600 reason why we're having to go back and 6610 04:16:25,600 --> 04:16:28,319 fix it. That's the whole reason. Two and 6611 04:16:28,319 --> 04:16:30,800 three. This other two/3s are perfect. I 6612 04:16:30,800 --> 04:16:32,239 mean, they'll last a long long long 6613 04:16:32,239 --> 04:16:32,880 time. 6614 04:16:32,880 --> 04:16:36,149 >> How much do you have in for asset part 6615 04:16:36,149 --> 04:16:36,159 » How much do you have in for asset part 6616 04:16:36,159 --> 04:16:40,239 repairs, asphalt repair? 6617 04:16:40,239 --> 04:16:41,030 >> How much is in? 6618 04:16:41,030 --> 04:16:41,040 » How much is in? 6619 04:16:41,040 --> 04:16:43,189 >> We got 100,000 6620 04:16:43,189 --> 04:16:43,199 » We got 100,000 6621 04:16:43,199 --> 04:16:45,199 in fund 20. Mhm. 6622 04:16:45,199 --> 04:16:47,910 >> You might take that at least to 150 if 6623 04:16:47,910 --> 04:16:47,920 » You might take that at least to 150 if 6624 04:16:47,920 --> 04:16:51,120 not double it because what happened with 6625 04:16:51,120 --> 04:16:55,520 Barry it started what year two years ago 6626 04:16:55,520 --> 04:16:58,960 there's cracks and it always had cracks 6627 04:16:58,960 --> 04:17:02,000 and then exponentially 6628 04:17:02,000 --> 04:17:04,880 it just started failing to everybody's 6629 04:17:04,880 --> 04:17:07,359 surprise every week it was and chunks 6630 04:17:07,359 --> 04:17:10,319 are falling off. So this is very 6631 04:17:10,319 --> 04:17:11,840 unpredictable. 6632 04:17:11,840 --> 04:17:14,960 I would double that repair budget. Yes. 6633 04:17:14,960 --> 04:17:19,439 Put the two million whatever it is off 6634 04:17:19,439 --> 04:17:21,760 for concrete 6635 04:17:21,760 --> 04:17:24,239 permanent replacement, but double that 6636 04:17:24,239 --> 04:17:27,840 repair budget. So that's because it it 6637 04:17:27,840 --> 04:17:31,279 can get bad very fast from one week to 6638 04:17:31,279 --> 04:17:33,920 the next. We noted it grew 6639 04:17:33,920 --> 04:17:37,279 substantially. The failure did. Mhm. 6640 04:17:37,279 --> 04:17:39,359 James, could you uh could y'all maybe 6641 04:17:39,359 --> 04:17:42,000 Mike look at the There's another section 6642 04:17:42,000 --> 04:17:45,120 um east of the new spot y'all did on 6643 04:17:45,120 --> 04:17:47,279 Odessa going towards 156. There's a 6644 04:17:47,279 --> 04:17:48,479 section that's just 6645 04:17:48,479 --> 04:17:49,670 >> falling apart. If you don't look into 6646 04:17:49,670 --> 04:17:49,680 » falling apart. If you don't look into 6647 04:17:49,680 --> 04:17:52,319 that, maybe maybe asphalt in that like 6648 04:17:52,319 --> 04:17:53,359 you did the other spots. 6649 04:17:53,359 --> 04:17:54,710 >> We'll look at that. And there's also a 6650 04:17:54,710 --> 04:17:54,720 » We'll look at that. And there's also a 6651 04:17:54,720 --> 04:17:56,560 section on the front half of Adessa, I 6652 04:17:56,560 --> 04:17:58,960 think, that's starting to show large 6653 04:17:58,960 --> 04:18:00,800 separation just kind of closer to the 6654 04:18:00,800 --> 04:18:02,720 gas station area. There's several 6655 04:18:02,720 --> 04:18:04,399 sections we watching, but it is like 6656 04:18:04,399 --> 04:18:06,479 there's cracks that were there in in the 6657 04:18:06,479 --> 04:18:08,239 early days that haven't moved at all and 6658 04:18:08,239 --> 04:18:09,840 then other sections that just all of a 6659 04:18:09,840 --> 04:18:11,760 sudden you see that rapid deterioration. 6660 04:18:11,760 --> 04:18:14,399 So, we'll look at that one specifically. 6661 04:18:14,399 --> 04:18:16,469 >> So, Mayor Hoy, you're you're saying in 6662 04:18:16,469 --> 04:18:16,479 » So, Mayor Hoy, you're you're saying in 6663 04:18:16,479 --> 04:18:21,359 fund 20 instead of the $100,000 6664 04:18:21,359 --> 04:18:23,920 um change that to 150 200. 6665 04:18:23,920 --> 04:18:25,510 >> I would propose 200. 6666 04:18:25,510 --> 04:18:25,520 » I would propose 200. 6667 04:18:25,520 --> 04:18:26,229 >> Where is that? 6668 04:18:26,229 --> 04:18:26,239 » Where is that? 6669 04:18:26,239 --> 04:18:28,469 >> On page 277 6670 04:18:28,469 --> 04:18:28,479 » On page 277 6671 04:18:28,479 --> 04:18:31,120 in fund 20. 6672 04:18:31,120 --> 04:18:33,680 Is that how does that 6673 04:18:33,680 --> 04:18:34,309 >> that's okay? 6674 04:18:34,309 --> 04:18:34,319 » that's okay? 6675 04:18:34,319 --> 04:18:35,269 >> I don't think there's anything wrong 6676 04:18:35,269 --> 04:18:35,279 » I don't think there's anything wrong 6677 04:18:35,279 --> 04:18:37,760 with that. Yeah, I think and to that 6678 04:18:37,760 --> 04:18:39,439 point, mayor, that's a good point. And 6679 04:18:39,439 --> 04:18:40,960 it's and this is some of the stuff we 6680 04:18:40,960 --> 04:18:42,960 were chasing. The exhibit you see up 6681 04:18:42,960 --> 04:18:45,359 behind you is, if you recall, we bid 6682 04:18:45,359 --> 04:18:47,279 some areas and then by the time we got 6683 04:18:47,279 --> 04:18:49,439 to construction and you really started 6684 04:18:49,439 --> 04:18:51,760 chasing it, what you see in red cost 6685 04:18:51,760 --> 04:18:53,600 $100,000. 6686 04:18:53,600 --> 04:18:56,159 So, and we had really good pricing on 6687 04:18:56,159 --> 04:18:59,439 this. So I think 200 would be it would 6688 04:18:59,439 --> 04:19:01,680 cover any of the immediate needs for 6689 04:19:01,680 --> 04:19:04,159 this next year. 100 may be cutting it 6690 04:19:04,159 --> 04:19:06,640 close but um I would feel good with the 6691 04:19:06,640 --> 04:19:08,479 200 6692 04:19:08,479 --> 04:19:10,229 >> comes out of fun 20 doesn't come out of 6693 04:19:10,229 --> 04:19:10,239 » comes out of fun 20 doesn't come out of 6694 04:19:10,239 --> 04:19:11,040 the general fund. 6695 04:19:11,040 --> 04:19:13,189 >> Yes. And that's what fund 20's 6696 04:19:13,189 --> 04:19:13,199 » Yes. And that's what fund 20's 6697 04:19:13,199 --> 04:19:15,510 >> that's what it's for. That's it. 6698 04:19:15,510 --> 04:19:15,520 » that's what it's for. That's it. 6699 04:19:15,520 --> 04:19:17,590 >> And just a general comment on the all 6700 04:19:17,590 --> 04:19:17,600 » And just a general comment on the all 6701 04:19:17,600 --> 04:19:19,840 those fund 20 projects we did this year. 6702 04:19:19,840 --> 04:19:21,920 I mean it eliminated I would say like 6703 04:19:21,920 --> 04:19:24,640 90% of the complaints we had coming in. 6704 04:19:24,640 --> 04:19:26,399 We were getting I mean just 6705 04:19:26,399 --> 04:19:27,189 >> huge. 6706 04:19:27,189 --> 04:19:27,199 » huge. 6707 04:19:27,199 --> 04:19:28,149 >> Oh yeah, it was huge 6708 04:19:28,149 --> 04:19:28,159 » Oh yeah, it was huge 6709 04:19:28,159 --> 04:19:30,790 >> for road related you know problems. It 6710 04:19:30,790 --> 04:19:30,800 » for road related you know problems. It 6711 04:19:30,800 --> 04:19:32,640 was almost instantaneous especially the 6712 04:19:32,640 --> 04:19:34,640 ones on Westport. It was really great to 6713 04:19:34,640 --> 04:19:36,399 go through there and just kind of patch 6714 04:19:36,399 --> 04:19:38,319 and address all those little problem 6715 04:19:38,319 --> 04:19:40,479 areas and it really has helped. Like 6716 04:19:40,479 --> 04:19:41,840 that was I would say one of the best 6717 04:19:41,840 --> 04:19:43,920 projects we did this year that really 6718 04:19:43,920 --> 04:19:47,040 seemed to make the general public happy 6719 04:19:47,040 --> 04:19:50,000 with roads through town. 6720 04:19:50,000 --> 04:19:53,110 >> So Ton, sorry go ahead. So Tanya, you 6721 04:19:53,110 --> 04:19:53,120 » So Ton, sorry go ahead. So Tanya, you 6722 04:19:53,120 --> 04:19:54,319 were saying take that two and a half 6723 04:19:54,319 --> 04:19:56,720 million and didn't take it that 6724 04:19:56,720 --> 04:19:57,279 somewhere else. 6725 04:19:57,279 --> 04:19:58,469 >> No, I never said two and a half million. 6726 04:19:58,469 --> 04:19:58,479 » No, I never said two and a half million. 6727 04:19:58,479 --> 04:20:00,319 It's it's budgeted in our general budget 6728 04:20:00,319 --> 04:20:02,239 is 120,000. 6729 04:20:02,239 --> 04:20:04,870 >> I'm saying take take that out. Maybe 6730 04:20:04,870 --> 04:20:04,880 » I'm saying take take that out. Maybe 6731 04:20:04,880 --> 04:20:09,760 wait a year, but add 100,000 to fund 20. 6732 04:20:09,760 --> 04:20:10,469 >> Okay. 6733 04:20:10,469 --> 04:20:10,479 » Okay. 6734 04:20:10,479 --> 04:20:11,830 >> The 120 6735 04:20:11,830 --> 04:20:11,840 » The 120 6736 04:20:11,840 --> 04:20:13,590 >> 120 or it says streets and drainage. 6737 04:20:13,590 --> 04:20:13,600 » 120 or it says streets and drainage. 6738 04:20:13,600 --> 04:20:16,159 It's it's above the yellow. 6739 04:20:16,159 --> 04:20:20,389 >> Um it's above the 165 and 1.425. Do you 6740 04:20:20,389 --> 04:20:20,399 » Um it's above the 165 and 1.425. Do you 6741 04:20:20,399 --> 04:20:20,880 see it? 6742 04:20:20,880 --> 04:20:23,189 >> No. Can you show 6743 04:20:23,189 --> 04:20:23,199 » No. Can you show 6744 04:20:23,199 --> 04:20:25,840 So in 2728 that 2 and a half million for 6745 04:20:25,840 --> 04:20:27,680 Hassa Park for concrete's just going to 6746 04:20:27,680 --> 04:20:28,960 go away. So that 6747 04:20:28,960 --> 04:20:32,790 >> sliding sliding. Okay. 6748 04:20:32,790 --> 04:20:32,800 » sliding sliding. Okay. 6749 04:20:32,800 --> 04:20:35,269 >> Double your double your maintenance 6750 04:20:35,269 --> 04:20:35,279 » Double your double your maintenance 6751 04:20:35,279 --> 04:20:37,680 dollars and let's slide the design and 6752 04:20:37,680 --> 04:20:39,840 full reconstruction out a year. 6753 04:20:39,840 --> 04:20:40,309 >> Okay. 6754 04:20:40,309 --> 04:20:40,319 » Okay. 6755 04:20:40,319 --> 04:20:42,070 >> Okay. I actually have a question. 6756 04:20:42,070 --> 04:20:42,080 » Okay. I actually have a question. 6757 04:20:42,080 --> 04:20:45,189 >> Sure. that um 6758 04:20:45,189 --> 04:20:45,199 » Sure. that um 6759 04:20:45,199 --> 04:20:47,199 this sounds like it's more of a concern 6760 04:20:47,199 --> 04:20:49,120 than the Careway and I live in Careoway 6761 04:20:49,120 --> 04:20:52,319 so I hate saying this but if you had to 6762 04:20:52,319 --> 04:20:54,560 prioritize the Careway drainage we just 6763 04:20:54,560 --> 04:20:56,399 put 6764 04:20:56,399 --> 04:20:58,800 20,000 towards Careway next year but 6765 04:20:58,800 --> 04:21:01,120 this does sound more like a priority 6766 04:21:01,120 --> 04:21:04,880 this road should we re 6767 04:21:04,880 --> 04:21:06,469 >> you what 6768 04:21:06,469 --> 04:21:06,479 » you what 6769 04:21:06,479 --> 04:21:08,790 >> the HLlet Parkway was not a it's it's 6770 04:21:08,790 --> 04:21:08,800 » the HLlet Parkway was not a it's it's 6771 04:21:08,800 --> 04:21:11,359 it's been fixed it's been I mean the 6772 04:21:11,359 --> 04:21:14,319 it's and 6773 04:21:14,319 --> 04:21:15,110 >> patched. 6774 04:21:15,110 --> 04:21:15,120 » patched. 6775 04:21:15,120 --> 04:21:17,110 >> I understand, but I'm asking because it 6776 04:21:17,110 --> 04:21:17,120 » I understand, but I'm asking because it 6777 04:21:17,120 --> 04:21:18,239 sounds like it's not a long-term 6778 04:21:18,239 --> 04:21:19,359 solution. They're saying we can maybe 6779 04:21:19,359 --> 04:21:21,199 push this off one year, but earlier they 6780 04:21:21,199 --> 04:21:23,199 were saying Careway's drainage issue 6781 04:21:23,199 --> 04:21:25,520 doesn't impact the road at all. So, do 6782 04:21:25,520 --> 04:21:27,600 we have these priorities kind of mixed? 6783 04:21:27,600 --> 04:21:29,040 Because if it's just a nuisance for 6784 04:21:29,040 --> 04:21:31,199 Caraway, but theirs is an actual safety 6785 04:21:31,199 --> 04:21:33,040 concern. Do you get what I'm asking, 6786 04:21:33,040 --> 04:21:35,040 Mike? 6787 04:21:35,040 --> 04:21:38,550 >> I I get what you're asking. I think um I 6788 04:21:38,550 --> 04:21:38,560 » I I get what you're asking. I think um I 6789 04:21:38,560 --> 04:21:41,520 think the the interim fixes that we're 6790 04:21:41,520 --> 04:21:43,600 recommending that you fund will probably 6791 04:21:43,600 --> 04:21:46,239 take I think what we ran into in Hassa 6792 04:21:46,239 --> 04:21:48,560 Park was you know kind of started as 6793 04:21:48,560 --> 04:21:50,159 aesthetics. Hey, why doesn't my street 6794 04:21:50,159 --> 04:21:52,159 look like this street? But by the time 6795 04:21:52,159 --> 04:21:53,680 we got out there last year, I mean there 6796 04:21:53,680 --> 04:21:55,760 were on Odessa there was you could stick 6797 04:21:55,760 --> 04:21:57,680 your foot down in some of those cracks. 6798 04:21:57,680 --> 04:22:00,080 So we've we've tried to deal with those 6799 04:22:00,080 --> 04:22:01,680 as they've come up from a safety 6800 04:22:01,680 --> 04:22:03,840 perspective. If you had to ask me right 6801 04:22:03,840 --> 04:22:05,840 now, I would say yes. There's there's 6802 04:22:05,840 --> 04:22:08,000 going to be more safety issues with 6803 04:22:08,000 --> 04:22:10,960 those roads than there would be 6804 04:22:10,960 --> 04:22:13,269 >> drainage out there on the careway 6805 04:22:13,269 --> 04:22:13,279 » drainage out there on the careway 6806 04:22:13,279 --> 04:22:14,080 entrance. Right. 6807 04:22:14,080 --> 04:22:16,469 >> So would you recommend we wait on the 6808 04:22:16,469 --> 04:22:16,479 » So would you recommend we wait on the 6809 04:22:16,479 --> 04:22:18,319 careway drainage a year like we would 6810 04:22:18,319 --> 04:22:20,800 with this and instead take that 120 and 6811 04:22:20,800 --> 04:22:22,239 put it towards the design. It almost 6812 04:22:22,239 --> 04:22:24,479 matches directly for the design of Hlet 6813 04:22:24,479 --> 04:22:26,239 Park. If it's a safety concern, if it's 6814 04:22:26,239 --> 04:22:27,680 going to continue to deteriorate and 6815 04:22:27,680 --> 04:22:29,600 cost the city money, it just 6816 04:22:29,600 --> 04:22:30,790 >> Yeah, I think that's one way you could 6817 04:22:30,790 --> 04:22:30,800 » Yeah, I think that's one way you could 6818 04:22:30,800 --> 04:22:33,040 look at it. It's it's real, you know, 6819 04:22:33,040 --> 04:22:35,920 water and sewer are real easy for us to 6820 04:22:35,920 --> 04:22:37,840 say you better do this or your manholes 6821 04:22:37,840 --> 04:22:38,880 are going to pop up. You're going to do 6822 04:22:38,880 --> 04:22:40,640 this or you run out of water. Roads are 6823 04:22:40,640 --> 04:22:42,399 a little more kind of at your 6824 04:22:42,399 --> 04:22:45,359 discretion. And but yeah, I think the 6825 04:22:45,359 --> 04:22:48,479 from what I can see the this these 6826 04:22:48,479 --> 04:22:50,560 streets pose more of a safety issue to 6827 04:22:50,560 --> 04:22:52,960 the traveling public than the than the 6828 04:22:52,960 --> 04:22:54,560 drainage issue at the entrance over 6829 04:22:54,560 --> 04:22:55,279 there. 6830 04:22:55,279 --> 04:22:57,510 >> I'm going to make a suggestion. Uh 6831 04:22:57,510 --> 04:22:57,520 » I'm going to make a suggestion. Uh 6832 04:22:57,520 --> 04:22:59,590 >> yes, and [clears throat] that's 6833 04:22:59,590 --> 04:22:59,600 » yes, and [clears throat] that's 6834 04:22:59,600 --> 04:23:02,389 >> involves Careway and Hasset Park and any 6835 04:23:02,389 --> 04:23:02,399 » involves Careway and Hasset Park and any 6836 04:23:02,399 --> 04:23:06,399 of these other projects. I'm going to 6837 04:23:06,399 --> 04:23:08,319 go ahead and keep your project Careway 6838 04:23:08,319 --> 04:23:11,520 there. Marcy is entering this stuff in 6839 04:23:11,520 --> 04:23:14,080 her program and at the end of this 6840 04:23:14,080 --> 04:23:16,080 discussion, she's going to here's your 6841 04:23:16,080 --> 04:23:18,159 bottom line effect. Then you can go 6842 04:23:18,159 --> 04:23:21,120 back. Oh, let's cut that one. Let's cut 6843 04:23:21,120 --> 04:23:22,560 that one. 6844 04:23:22,560 --> 04:23:24,630 >> I understand. But it's also a mix of 6845 04:23:24,630 --> 04:23:24,640 » I understand. But it's also a mix of 6846 04:23:24,640 --> 04:23:27,279 what can our city employees and staff 6847 04:23:27,279 --> 04:23:29,920 handle? Um I mean that you can only 6848 04:23:29,920 --> 04:23:31,600 achieve so much in a year. So even if we 6849 04:23:31,600 --> 04:23:34,000 have the money for it, you know, do they 6850 04:23:34,000 --> 04:23:36,080 have the time for it as well? 6851 04:23:36,080 --> 04:23:38,149 >> I mean I'm fine either way. I just was 6852 04:23:38,149 --> 04:23:38,159 » I mean I'm fine either way. I just was 6853 04:23:38,159 --> 04:23:39,520 saying just I was listening to what they 6854 04:23:39,520 --> 04:23:40,399 said about Careway. 6855 04:23:40,399 --> 04:23:41,830 >> If if everybody up there thinks that it 6856 04:23:41,830 --> 04:23:41,840 » If if everybody up there thinks that it 6857 04:23:41,840 --> 04:23:43,920 should be flipped, then I'll go with the 6858 04:23:43,920 --> 04:23:45,359 ex with the professionals. 6859 04:23:45,359 --> 04:23:48,550 >> Does that not get you 6860 04:23:48,550 --> 04:23:48,560 » Does that not get you 6861 04:23:48,560 --> 04:23:50,790 >> I I kind of want to side with the mayor 6862 04:23:50,790 --> 04:23:50,800 » I I kind of want to side with the mayor 6863 04:23:50,800 --> 04:23:53,279 on this one. I mean, put it as a wish 6864 04:23:53,279 --> 04:23:54,479 list, kind of sort in the budget, and 6865 04:23:54,479 --> 04:23:55,600 then if we find out that we don't have 6866 04:23:55,600 --> 04:23:57,279 the money for it, you can just mark one 6867 04:23:57,279 --> 04:23:58,800 out if you need to. 6868 04:23:58,800 --> 04:24:00,950 >> Okay. Is that what we want to do? 6869 04:24:00,950 --> 04:24:00,960 » Okay. Is that what we want to do? 6870 04:24:00,960 --> 04:24:02,149 >> Can I ask [clears throat] a dumb 6871 04:24:02,149 --> 04:24:02,159 » Can I ask [clears throat] a dumb 6872 04:24:02,159 --> 04:24:02,800 question? 6873 04:24:02,800 --> 04:24:03,349 >> Yes. 6874 04:24:03,349 --> 04:24:03,359 » Yes. 6875 04:24:03,359 --> 04:24:05,349 >> Since we're on Hazard Park, 6876 04:24:05,349 --> 04:24:05,359 » Since we're on Hazard Park, 6877 04:24:05,359 --> 04:24:06,870 >> is there any way we can put a side 6878 04:24:06,870 --> 04:24:06,880 » is there any way we can put a side 6879 04:24:06,880 --> 04:24:09,520 entrance to Dollar General from that 6880 04:24:09,520 --> 04:24:10,720 whatever that road is that goes next to 6881 04:24:10,720 --> 04:24:13,359 it? 6882 04:24:13,359 --> 04:24:15,030 >> Yes, I know. People are people are 6883 04:24:15,030 --> 04:24:15,040 » Yes, I know. People are people are 6884 04:24:15,040 --> 04:24:17,279 driving on the dirt between 156 and the 6885 04:24:17,279 --> 04:24:19,760 parking lot to get to Dollar General. 6886 04:24:19,760 --> 04:24:21,199 And I think that's a safety concern 6887 04:24:21,199 --> 04:24:23,439 because you have people going on the 6888 04:24:23,439 --> 04:24:25,600 dirt and on the road all different 6889 04:24:25,600 --> 04:24:26,159 directions. 6890 04:24:26,159 --> 04:24:27,269 >> Like they're going to shop or they're 6891 04:24:27,269 --> 04:24:27,279 » Like they're going to shop or they're 6892 04:24:27,279 --> 04:24:28,159 doing a cut through. 6893 04:24:28,159 --> 04:24:29,269 >> No, they're going there to shop, but 6894 04:24:29,269 --> 04:24:29,279 » No, they're going there to shop, but 6895 04:24:29,279 --> 04:24:30,960 they're not even turning on to 156. 6896 04:24:30,960 --> 04:24:32,080 They're just turning on the dirt in 6897 04:24:32,080 --> 04:24:32,880 front of it. 6898 04:24:32,880 --> 04:24:35,110 >> So if you're on Barry and you're you 6899 04:24:35,110 --> 04:24:35,120 » So if you're on Barry and you're you 6900 04:24:35,120 --> 04:24:37,520 don't want to wait to go to left, take a 6901 04:24:37,520 --> 04:24:39,120 left to get on 156 and then take a left 6902 04:24:39,120 --> 04:24:40,960 to go to Dollar General. You just take a 6903 04:24:40,960 --> 04:24:42,720 left on the dirt road and then 6904 04:24:42,720 --> 04:24:45,269 >> it's not a road. [laughter] 6905 04:24:45,269 --> 04:24:45,279 » it's not a road. [laughter] 6906 04:24:45,279 --> 04:24:49,590 >> It's the text rideway unpaved. It's the 6907 04:24:49,590 --> 04:24:49,600 » It's the text rideway unpaved. It's the 6908 04:24:49,600 --> 04:24:50,479 grass. 6909 04:24:50,479 --> 04:24:52,790 >> It's It's a dirt road that was made and 6910 04:24:52,790 --> 04:24:52,800 » It's It's a dirt road that was made and 6911 04:24:52,800 --> 04:24:54,080 you just take a lead there and you go 6912 04:24:54,080 --> 04:24:55,279 into Dollar General Park. 6913 04:24:55,279 --> 04:24:56,389 >> All I'm going to say is on the priority 6914 04:24:56,389 --> 04:24:56,399 » All I'm going to say is on the priority 6915 04:24:56,399 --> 04:24:57,279 list. It sounds like 6916 04:24:57,279 --> 04:24:58,870 >> I understand. But if we're rebuilding 6917 04:24:58,870 --> 04:24:58,880 » I understand. But if we're rebuilding 6918 04:24:58,880 --> 04:25:00,399 the road, can we make a connection? 6919 04:25:00,399 --> 04:25:01,920 That's all I'm asking. 6920 04:25:01,920 --> 04:25:03,269 >> Well, you know what? I think you're 6921 04:25:03,269 --> 04:25:03,279 » Well, you know what? I think you're 6922 04:25:03,279 --> 04:25:06,319 taking away from the culture of Hasslet. 6923 04:25:06,319 --> 04:25:06,630 >> Sorry. 6924 04:25:06,630 --> 04:25:06,640 » Sorry. 6925 04:25:06,640 --> 04:25:09,269 >> This is small town Texas. Come on. 6926 04:25:09,269 --> 04:25:09,279 » This is small town Texas. Come on. 6927 04:25:09,279 --> 04:25:11,510 >> Except we don't have small town traffic. 6928 04:25:11,510 --> 04:25:11,520 » Except we don't have small town traffic. 6929 04:25:11,520 --> 04:25:13,670 >> I don't know what the solution is to 6930 04:25:13,670 --> 04:25:13,680 » I don't know what the solution is to 6931 04:25:13,680 --> 04:25:16,319 eliminate that. We probably can't 6932 04:25:16,319 --> 04:25:19,279 construct it with on the city's right of 6933 04:25:19,279 --> 04:25:21,268 way to eliminate that that 6934 04:25:21,268 --> 04:25:21,840 [clears throat] 6935 04:25:21,840 --> 04:25:24,479 uh turn in front of Dollar General and 6936 04:25:24,479 --> 04:25:27,359 it would have to probably come from Tex 6937 04:25:27,359 --> 04:25:29,520 Dot's permission. 6938 04:25:29,520 --> 04:25:31,359 If they can get the permission to 6939 04:25:31,359 --> 04:25:33,760 construct something such as a guard rail 6940 04:25:33,760 --> 04:25:37,760 up there, then uh and Hassa volunteers 6941 04:25:37,760 --> 04:25:40,399 to pay for it, they might go, "Sure, 6942 04:25:40,399 --> 04:25:44,319 knock yourself out." But a solution as 6943 04:25:44,319 --> 04:25:47,920 to how to stop that lefthand turn has to 6944 04:25:47,920 --> 04:25:51,120 be come up with. And it doesn't may not 6945 04:25:51,120 --> 04:25:55,199 be straightforward how to do that. 6946 04:25:55,199 --> 04:25:58,389 >> Can you uh come up with a solution? 6947 04:25:58,389 --> 04:25:58,399 » Can you uh come up with a solution? 6948 04:25:58,399 --> 04:26:00,870 >> Shut down your method. 6949 04:26:00,870 --> 04:26:00,880 » Shut down your method. 6950 04:26:00,880 --> 04:26:02,149 >> Oh, we we 6951 04:26:02,149 --> 04:26:02,159 » Oh, we we 6952 04:26:02,159 --> 04:26:04,550 >> it might sh shut down economic 6953 04:26:04,550 --> 04:26:04,560 » it might sh shut down economic 6954 04:26:04,560 --> 04:26:06,479 development, too. [laughter] 6955 04:26:06,479 --> 04:26:08,070 >> Yeah, if that's something we need to 6956 04:26:08,070 --> 04:26:08,080 » Yeah, if that's something we need to 6957 04:26:08,080 --> 04:26:09,760 look into, we could do a little exhibit 6958 04:26:09,760 --> 04:26:11,600 and just see if there's any solution. I 6959 04:26:11,600 --> 04:26:13,359 mean, it wouldn't be that's something 6960 04:26:13,359 --> 04:26:15,680 that's that's no big deal. Now, I say 6961 04:26:15,680 --> 04:26:17,680 that it's no big deal to come up with a 6962 04:26:17,680 --> 04:26:19,520 concept, implementing it, and getting 6963 04:26:19,520 --> 04:26:21,439 it. That's a whole another ball of wax, 6964 04:26:21,439 --> 04:26:25,279 but we we can look into that. 6965 04:26:25,279 --> 04:26:26,870 >> Then you don't have to worry about it. 6966 04:26:26,870 --> 04:26:26,880 » Then you don't have to worry about it. 6967 04:26:26,880 --> 04:26:28,149 >> I feel like there was some issue that 6968 04:26:28,149 --> 04:26:28,159 » I feel like there was some issue that 6969 04:26:28,159 --> 04:26:29,680 with Dollar General that that didn't 6970 04:26:29,680 --> 04:26:32,960 happen. I don't know. Yeah, I don't. It 6971 04:26:32,960 --> 04:26:37,279 is. It would be convenient, but it's not 6972 04:26:37,279 --> 04:26:41,349 >> a need. 6973 04:26:41,359 --> 04:26:43,600 So, just so I understand, SD7 is going 6974 04:26:43,600 --> 04:26:47,199 on page 277 under the fun 20. 6975 04:26:47,199 --> 04:26:52,070 >> Are we Is that where we're putting it? 6976 04:26:52,080 --> 04:26:54,560 » S7. 6977 04:26:54,560 --> 04:26:57,030 >> That is 100,000 and 6978 04:26:57,030 --> 04:26:57,040 » That is 100,000 and 6979 04:26:57,040 --> 04:26:58,950 >> transportation tax is now going to 6980 04:26:58,950 --> 04:26:58,960 » transportation tax is now going to 6981 04:26:58,960 --> 04:27:01,680 200,000 or it's Yes. 6982 04:27:01,680 --> 04:27:03,910 >> Let's see. 6983 04:27:03,910 --> 04:27:03,920 » Let's see. 6984 04:27:03,920 --> 04:27:05,520 Yeah, that's going to 6985 04:27:05,520 --> 04:27:09,349 >> park is going from 100,000 to 200,000. 6986 04:27:09,349 --> 04:27:09,359 » park is going from 100,000 to 200,000. 6987 04:27:09,359 --> 04:27:10,630 >> Correct. And then where are we putting 6988 04:27:10,630 --> 04:27:10,640 » Correct. And then where are we putting 6989 04:27:10,640 --> 04:27:13,359 the project 6990 04:27:13,359 --> 04:27:14,790 >> because they said they want to put it in 6991 04:27:14,790 --> 04:27:14,800 » because they said they want to put it in 6992 04:27:14,800 --> 04:27:16,159 now and take it out later when 6993 04:27:16,159 --> 04:27:17,429 >> So it's already in our general budget 6994 04:27:17,429 --> 04:27:17,439 » So it's already in our general budget 6995 04:27:17,439 --> 04:27:18,800 where it says House Park reinforced 6996 04:27:18,800 --> 04:27:20,800 concrete paving design 120. 6997 04:27:20,800 --> 04:27:21,910 >> Oh, it's just different amount because 6998 04:27:21,910 --> 04:27:21,920 » Oh, it's just different amount because 6999 04:27:21,920 --> 04:27:23,439 they have it listed as 180 here. 7000 04:27:23,439 --> 04:27:25,030 >> It's 120. Yeah. Here 7001 04:27:25,030 --> 04:27:25,040 » It's 120. Yeah. Here 7002 04:27:25,040 --> 04:27:27,910 >> that's it's 120 in the budget and so 7003 04:27:27,910 --> 04:27:27,920 » that's it's 120 in the budget and so 7004 04:27:27,920 --> 04:27:29,590 >> but it's 180 in in yours 7005 04:27:29,590 --> 04:27:29,600 » but it's 180 in in yours 7006 04:27:29,600 --> 04:27:30,790 >> in Mike. That's where I was confused. 7007 04:27:30,790 --> 04:27:30,800 » in Mike. That's where I was confused. 7008 04:27:30,800 --> 04:27:33,359 Sorry. So, am I leaving it in at 120? Am 7009 04:27:33,359 --> 04:27:35,920 I taking it out at 120 or am I putting 7010 04:27:35,920 --> 04:27:37,359 it in at 180? 7011 04:27:37,359 --> 04:27:38,389 >> No, that's a different one. 7012 04:27:38,389 --> 04:27:38,399 » No, that's a different one. 7013 04:27:38,399 --> 04:27:40,790 >> No. So, that's that's to repair the road 7014 04:27:40,790 --> 04:27:40,800 » No. So, that's that's to repair the road 7015 04:27:40,800 --> 04:27:42,399 over the next year. The question, you 7016 04:27:42,399 --> 04:27:45,359 said you wanted to keep SD7 reinforced 7017 04:27:45,359 --> 04:27:48,000 concrete paving. On the line item, it's 7018 04:27:48,000 --> 04:27:50,239 listed as 120, but Mike has it as 180. 7019 04:27:50,239 --> 04:27:53,199 So, are we keeping it at 120 or 180? 7020 04:27:53,199 --> 04:27:55,990 >> Mike, 160. What the difference? 7021 04:27:55,990 --> 04:27:56,000 » Mike, 160. What the difference? 7022 04:27:56,000 --> 04:27:56,710 >> Might as well go. 7023 04:27:56,710 --> 04:27:56,720 » Might as well go. 7024 04:27:56,720 --> 04:27:58,389 >> Well, excuse me. I thought we're sliding 7025 04:27:58,389 --> 04:27:58,399 » Well, excuse me. I thought we're sliding 7026 04:27:58,399 --> 04:28:00,640 that whole project a year. But then you 7027 04:28:00,640 --> 04:28:02,159 suggested we kept it in. Keep it in. 7028 04:28:02,159 --> 04:28:03,910 >> No, not not that piece. I'm talking 7029 04:28:03,910 --> 04:28:03,920 » No, not not that piece. I'm talking 7030 04:28:03,920 --> 04:28:06,319 about under fund 20 under repair. 7031 04:28:06,319 --> 04:28:06,790 >> We did. 7032 04:28:06,790 --> 04:28:06,800 » We did. 7033 04:28:06,800 --> 04:28:09,110 >> You said keep it in and then see on 7034 04:28:09,110 --> 04:28:09,120 » You said keep it in and then see on 7035 04:28:09,120 --> 04:28:10,960 Careway and on this project. 7036 04:28:10,960 --> 04:28:12,229 >> You did. 7037 04:28:12,229 --> 04:28:12,239 » You did. 7038 04:28:12,239 --> 04:28:12,550 >> But 7039 04:28:12,550 --> 04:28:12,560 » But 7040 04:28:12,560 --> 04:28:15,349 >> well fund 20 is not going to be in the 7041 04:28:15,349 --> 04:28:15,359 » well fund 20 is not going to be in the 7042 04:28:15,359 --> 04:28:16,159 general fund, 7043 04:28:16,159 --> 04:28:16,550 >> right? 7044 04:28:16,550 --> 04:28:16,560 » right? 7045 04:28:16,560 --> 04:28:18,309 >> No. Understood. But for the project he 7046 04:28:18,309 --> 04:28:18,319 » No. Understood. But for the project he 7047 04:28:18,319 --> 04:28:19,840 said to keep it all until the end and 7048 04:28:19,840 --> 04:28:21,359 then X out stuff we can't afford. 7049 04:28:21,359 --> 04:28:23,590 >> The That would be the carway we were 7050 04:28:23,590 --> 04:28:23,600 » The That would be the carway we were 7051 04:28:23,600 --> 04:28:24,800 talking about. You're talking about 7052 04:28:24,800 --> 04:28:26,560 trading carway for what? 7053 04:28:26,560 --> 04:28:29,670 >> Hasllet Park reinforced concrete. Oh, 7054 04:28:29,670 --> 04:28:29,680 » Hasllet Park reinforced concrete. Oh, 7055 04:28:29,680 --> 04:28:31,920 trading those. Well, I then I 7056 04:28:31,920 --> 04:28:35,520 misunderstood is I I I'm working on the 7057 04:28:35,520 --> 04:28:37,680 premise that you're moving Hasslet Park 7058 04:28:37,680 --> 04:28:40,479 reinforced concrete a year out. So, 7059 04:28:40,479 --> 04:28:41,439 that's the design. 7060 04:28:41,439 --> 04:28:42,870 >> That was the original discussion and 7061 04:28:42,870 --> 04:28:42,880 » That was the original discussion and 7062 04:28:42,880 --> 04:28:44,960 then it's gone about about five 7063 04:28:44,960 --> 04:28:46,960 different directions. One one comment 7064 04:28:46,960 --> 04:28:48,960 was that it might be more of a priority 7065 04:28:48,960 --> 04:28:51,199 than Careway. So, we were going to not 7066 04:28:51,199 --> 04:28:53,279 take it out and maybe take out Careway. 7067 04:28:53,279 --> 04:28:55,199 But he but Careway is in fund 20. So, 7068 04:28:55,199 --> 04:28:56,800 why would we take that out? 7069 04:28:56,800 --> 04:28:58,790 >> Is kind of your point. Yeah, that's my 7070 04:28:58,790 --> 04:28:58,800 » Is kind of your point. Yeah, that's my 7071 04:28:58,800 --> 04:28:59,199 point. 7072 04:28:59,199 --> 04:29:02,389 >> Right. And so we'll just leave Hassel 7073 04:29:02,389 --> 04:29:02,399 » Right. And so we'll just leave Hassel 7074 04:29:02,399 --> 04:29:04,399 Park reinforce reinforced concrete 7075 04:29:04,399 --> 04:29:06,560 paving design in is what I hear Chris 7076 04:29:06,560 --> 04:29:08,239 and Jasmine saying. Even though 7077 04:29:08,239 --> 04:29:09,830 >> I moved it to 200. 7078 04:29:09,830 --> 04:29:09,840 » I moved it to 200. 7079 04:29:09,840 --> 04:29:10,870 >> No, that's that's something different. 7080 04:29:10,870 --> 04:29:10,880 » No, that's that's something different. 7081 04:29:10,880 --> 04:29:12,239 That's 120. We're talking we're talking 7082 04:29:12,239 --> 04:29:14,000 about the general fund now. Go back to 7083 04:29:14,000 --> 04:29:15,439 this yellow. 7084 04:29:15,439 --> 04:29:17,670 >> Not okay. Oh, you're saying taking it 7085 04:29:17,670 --> 04:29:17,680 » Not okay. Oh, you're saying taking it 7086 04:29:17,680 --> 04:29:19,680 from 120 to 180? Yes. 7087 04:29:19,680 --> 04:29:20,870 >> Which is what it's what's what is 7088 04:29:20,870 --> 04:29:20,880 » Which is what it's what's what is 7089 04:29:20,880 --> 04:29:21,760 originally in there. 7090 04:29:21,760 --> 04:29:22,149 >> Yes, 7091 04:29:22,149 --> 04:29:22,159 » Yes, 7092 04:29:22,159 --> 04:29:24,229 >> Mike. Yes. 180 is what it needs to be. 7093 04:29:24,229 --> 04:29:24,239 » Mike. Yes. 180 is what it needs to be. 7094 04:29:24,239 --> 04:29:26,389 >> Yes. So the general fund 7095 04:29:26,389 --> 04:29:26,399 » Yes. So the general fund 7096 04:29:26,399 --> 04:29:27,830 >> whether you want to slide it a year or 7097 04:29:27,830 --> 04:29:27,840 » whether you want to slide it a year or 7098 04:29:27,840 --> 04:29:28,560 do it 7099 04:29:28,560 --> 04:29:31,189 >> I want to slide it a year but and and 7100 04:29:31,189 --> 04:29:31,199 » I want to slide it a year but and and 7101 04:29:31,199 --> 04:29:32,560 Zach's on board with that too but then 7102 04:29:32,560 --> 04:29:33,600 the two people that don't live in house 7103 04:29:33,600 --> 04:29:35,520 park want to keep it in here. So 7104 04:29:35,520 --> 04:29:37,189 >> honestly I'm neither here nor there that 7105 04:29:37,189 --> 04:29:37,199 » honestly I'm neither here nor there that 7106 04:29:37,199 --> 04:29:38,560 it just sounded like they had some 7107 04:29:38,560 --> 04:29:39,680 serious concerns. 7108 04:29:39,680 --> 04:29:41,590 >> Yeah. And if it is that that volatile if 7109 04:29:41,590 --> 04:29:41,600 » Yeah. And if it is that that volatile if 7110 04:29:41,600 --> 04:29:43,680 it's not if it's that unpredictable then 7111 04:29:43,680 --> 04:29:45,760 maybe we do leave it in and get get it 7112 04:29:45,760 --> 04:29:47,439 on the books to get fixed. 7113 04:29:47,439 --> 04:29:49,030 >> Yeah. And Tanya if you if you want it 7114 04:29:49,030 --> 04:29:49,040 » Yeah. And Tanya if you if you want it 7115 04:29:49,040 --> 04:29:50,720 out I'm fine with that. I was just 7116 04:29:50,720 --> 04:29:53,590 >> going to see what taxes do. So we're 7117 04:29:53,590 --> 04:29:53,600 » going to see what taxes do. So we're 7118 04:29:53,600 --> 04:29:58,790 adding it at 180 7119 04:29:58,800 --> 04:30:00,080 » this year 7120 04:30:00,080 --> 04:30:01,750 >> for now. This year 7121 04:30:01,750 --> 04:30:01,760 » for now. This year 7122 04:30:01,760 --> 04:30:03,990 >> this 26 27. 7123 04:30:03,990 --> 04:30:04,000 » this 26 27. 7124 04:30:04,000 --> 04:30:08,229 >> Yes sir. 7125 04:30:08,239 --> 04:30:19,510 » We get a reality check. But it's on 7126 04:30:19,520 --> 04:30:39,349 Marc. 7127 04:30:39,359 --> 04:30:43,520 everyone's move to project eight. That's 7128 04:30:43,520 --> 04:30:46,960 the Hasslac Park drainage improvements. 7129 04:30:46,960 --> 04:30:50,399 Um, we had completed this past year the 7130 04:30:50,399 --> 04:30:53,760 work here. Uh, and I don't should have 7131 04:30:53,760 --> 04:30:55,279 already had this on there, but I don't. 7132 04:30:55,279 --> 04:30:57,760 We we completed the Shriber 7133 04:30:57,760 --> 04:31:00,399 improvements. You know, drainage is it's 7134 04:31:00,399 --> 04:31:02,880 always expensive as you start 7135 04:31:02,880 --> 04:31:04,560 downstream. So we picked off a 7136 04:31:04,560 --> 04:31:06,880 lowhanging fruit and dealt with some 7137 04:31:06,880 --> 04:31:08,880 issues that were creating some nuisance 7138 04:31:08,880 --> 04:31:11,439 for some folks along Shrivever. So what 7139 04:31:11,439 --> 04:31:13,279 you see in red was completed. 7140 04:31:13,279 --> 04:31:14,479 Everybody's real happy with that 7141 04:31:14,479 --> 04:31:18,399 project. Um, we've got an estimate in 7142 04:31:18,399 --> 04:31:22,640 there of about 2.7 million to construct 7143 04:31:22,640 --> 04:31:25,279 uh some sort of drainage improvements 7144 04:31:25,279 --> 04:31:28,399 through several backyards in the rideway 7145 04:31:28,399 --> 04:31:33,359 and other miscellaneous uh supplemental 7146 04:31:33,359 --> 04:31:35,439 improvements from a drainage perspective 7147 04:31:35,439 --> 04:31:38,159 out there. Um, 7148 04:31:38,159 --> 04:31:42,720 we've got 135 left from the original 7149 04:31:42,720 --> 04:31:44,560 design budget, I believe, that we were 7150 04:31:44,560 --> 04:31:47,120 proposing to just carry over. And what 7151 04:31:47,120 --> 04:31:50,479 we were attempting to do is there's two 7152 04:31:50,479 --> 04:31:54,159 grants, um, a flood infrastructure grant 7153 04:31:54,159 --> 04:31:58,720 and a brick grant. Um, those are both 7154 04:31:58,720 --> 04:32:00,479 federal grants. I believe they're both 7155 04:32:00,479 --> 04:32:03,520 at 7525 splits 7156 04:32:03,520 --> 04:32:06,239 and those are due in November. And so we 7157 04:32:06,239 --> 04:32:09,600 were trying to get these projects um 7158 04:32:09,600 --> 04:32:11,680 designed so that they could be 7159 04:32:11,680 --> 04:32:14,239 considered shovel ready in anticipation 7160 04:32:14,239 --> 04:32:17,359 of submitting um in November for these 7161 04:32:17,359 --> 04:32:21,520 two projects. Um we we've got surveying 7162 04:32:21,520 --> 04:32:24,640 ready to go on these, but we need how 7163 04:32:24,640 --> 04:32:26,640 many ride of entries? 7164 04:32:26,640 --> 04:32:29,670 >> 17 14. A lot. There's a lot of property 7165 04:32:29,670 --> 04:32:29,680 » 17 14. A lot. There's a lot of property 7166 04:32:29,680 --> 04:32:31,520 owners that we're having to contact for 7167 04:32:31,520 --> 04:32:34,640 access through their backyards. And so, 7168 04:32:34,640 --> 04:32:36,479 uh, we're working to get that done. We 7169 04:32:36,479 --> 04:32:38,319 think we'll have that wrapped up the 7170 04:32:38,319 --> 04:32:39,920 next couple of weeks. A surveying team 7171 04:32:39,920 --> 04:32:42,319 will get going and then we can put 7172 04:32:42,319 --> 04:32:44,800 together a 7173 04:32:44,800 --> 04:32:48,319 set of preliminary plans and um update 7174 04:32:48,319 --> 04:32:50,239 the cost estimate and have that ready to 7175 04:32:50,239 --> 04:32:53,040 go for the uh grant submitt. We'll see 7176 04:32:53,040 --> 04:32:54,159 how that shakes out. 7177 04:32:54,159 --> 04:32:56,550 >> So, this 135 was already approved. 7178 04:32:56,550 --> 04:32:56,560 » So, this 135 was already approved. 7179 04:32:56,560 --> 04:32:58,950 >> It was. Yes, sir. 7180 04:32:58,950 --> 04:32:58,960 » It was. Yes, sir. 7181 04:32:58,960 --> 04:32:59,760 So, it's already there. 7182 04:32:59,760 --> 04:33:01,910 >> Yeah. 7183 04:33:01,910 --> 04:33:01,920 » Yeah. 7184 04:33:01,920 --> 04:33:03,429 >> Well, I'm actually a little confused. I 7185 04:33:03,429 --> 04:33:03,439 » Well, I'm actually a little confused. I 7186 04:33:03,439 --> 04:33:05,039 thought when it said carry forward, it 7187 04:33:05,039 --> 04:33:07,119 includes the amount left, which would be 7188 04:33:07,119 --> 04:33:10,639 the 96891, and then you're adding 135. 7189 04:33:10,639 --> 04:33:12,719 Is that correct? 7190 04:33:12,719 --> 04:33:13,029 >> Yes, 7191 04:33:13,029 --> 04:33:13,039 » Yes, 7192 04:33:13,039 --> 04:33:16,230 >> that would put it at 231,891. 7193 04:33:16,230 --> 04:33:16,240 » that would put it at 231,891. 7194 04:33:16,240 --> 04:33:17,670 >> We just need 135. 7195 04:33:17,670 --> 04:33:17,680 » We just need 135. 7196 04:33:17,680 --> 04:33:18,789 >> So, we need to get rid of some money. 7197 04:33:18,789 --> 04:33:18,799 » So, we need to get rid of some money. 7198 04:33:18,799 --> 04:33:20,551 >> We still still got five left in the 7199 04:33:20,551 --> 04:33:20,561 » We still still got five left in the 7200 04:33:20,561 --> 04:33:22,799 current year. So that means we can 7201 04:33:22,799 --> 04:33:27,039 change this 135 to 7202 04:33:27,039 --> 04:33:28,230 >> I don't know that we have all the 7203 04:33:28,230 --> 04:33:28,240 » I don't know that we have all the 7204 04:33:28,240 --> 04:33:30,080 expenditures in there 7205 04:33:30,080 --> 04:33:30,789 >> at this point. 7206 04:33:30,789 --> 04:33:30,799 » at this point. 7207 04:33:30,799 --> 04:33:34,310 >> Uh yeah, for now till we get surveying 7208 04:33:34,310 --> 04:33:34,320 » Uh yeah, for now till we get surveying 7209 04:33:34,320 --> 04:33:34,719 done. 7210 04:33:34,719 --> 04:33:34,949 >> Yeah, 7211 04:33:34,949 --> 04:33:34,959 » Yeah, 7212 04:33:34,959 --> 04:33:36,470 >> that'll be about 30 grand. 7213 04:33:36,470 --> 04:33:36,480 » that'll be about 30 grand. 7214 04:33:36,480 --> 04:33:38,408 >> Yeah, it Yeah, we need the 135. 7215 04:33:38,408 --> 04:33:38,418 » Yeah, it Yeah, we need the 135. 7216 04:33:38,418 --> 04:33:41,590 [clears throat] 7217 04:33:41,600 --> 04:33:41,920 » Yeah. 7218 04:33:41,920 --> 04:33:43,750 >> So we're going to keep an extra 100,000 7219 04:33:43,750 --> 04:33:43,760 » So we're going to keep an extra 100,000 7220 04:33:43,760 --> 04:33:48,240 in there. Well, it's 96 and change, 7221 04:33:48,240 --> 04:33:51,510 >> but the 96 may go down is what I'm 7222 04:33:51,510 --> 04:33:51,520 » but the 96 may go down is what I'm 7223 04:33:51,520 --> 04:33:53,119 saying. We don't have all the costs for 7224 04:33:53,119 --> 04:33:54,719 that project in. 7225 04:33:54,719 --> 04:33:56,150 >> Okay. For the one that's finishing out 7226 04:33:56,150 --> 04:33:56,160 » Okay. For the one that's finishing out 7227 04:33:56,160 --> 04:33:56,719 this year. 7228 04:33:56,719 --> 04:33:58,709 >> Yeah, that was 7229 04:33:58,709 --> 04:33:58,719 » Yeah, that was 7230 04:33:58,719 --> 04:34:00,789 >> Yeah, we think we think 135 would be 7231 04:34:00,789 --> 04:34:00,799 » Yeah, we think we think 135 would be 7232 04:34:00,799 --> 04:34:02,799 plenty to get it through the design, get 7233 04:34:02,799 --> 04:34:05,920 it uh anything permitted, do all the 7234 04:34:05,920 --> 04:34:07,840 modeling 7235 04:34:07,840 --> 04:34:09,920 and get everything set up for the 7236 04:34:09,920 --> 04:34:12,240 grants. 7237 04:34:12,240 --> 04:34:14,719 I do think the uh construction that you 7238 04:34:14,719 --> 04:34:18,639 have on the 2.5 needs to move up a year. 7239 04:34:18,639 --> 04:34:20,070 >> Which one? 7240 04:34:20,070 --> 04:34:20,080 » Which one? 7241 04:34:20,080 --> 04:34:21,349 >> Say that again. 7242 04:34:21,349 --> 04:34:21,359 » Say that again. 7243 04:34:21,359 --> 04:34:25,429 >> The construction of $2.5 million 7244 04:34:25,429 --> 04:34:25,439 » The construction of $2.5 million 7245 04:34:25,439 --> 04:34:28,799 under 2829 fiscal year needs to move up 7246 04:34:28,799 --> 04:34:35,269 to 2728. 7247 04:34:35,279 --> 04:34:36,959 » Oh, you think the roads and the drainage 7248 04:34:36,959 --> 04:34:38,480 should be done at the same time? 7249 04:34:38,480 --> 04:34:39,510 >> Yes, 7250 04:34:39,510 --> 04:34:39,520 » Yes, 7251 04:34:39,520 --> 04:34:47,349 >> I would agree. 7252 04:34:47,359 --> 04:34:48,959 So we could show that change. We can 7253 04:34:48,959 --> 04:34:55,269 move the 25 into fiscal year 2728 7254 04:34:55,279 --> 04:34:57,039 and then depending on what you decide at 7255 04:34:57,039 --> 04:34:59,119 the bottom line about the roads that 7256 04:34:59,119 --> 04:35:00,639 those may line up or those may be 7257 04:35:00,639 --> 04:35:02,719 offset. 7258 04:35:02,719 --> 04:35:05,349 >> Well, I thought they as that decision's 7259 04:35:05,349 --> 04:35:05,359 » Well, I thought they as that decision's 7260 04:35:05,359 --> 04:35:06,719 made, Mike. 7261 04:35:06,719 --> 04:35:08,629 >> No, sir. Uh, I think they were waiting 7262 04:35:08,629 --> 04:35:08,639 » No, sir. Uh, I think they were waiting 7263 04:35:08,639 --> 04:35:10,561 till the bottom line came out on the 7264 04:35:10,561 --> 04:35:11,920 sliding of the 7265 04:35:11,920 --> 04:35:12,470 >> Oh, 7266 04:35:12,470 --> 04:35:12,480 » Oh, 7267 04:35:12,480 --> 04:35:14,551 >> yes sir. of the road design. 7268 04:35:14,551 --> 04:35:14,561 » yes sir. of the road design. 7269 04:35:14,561 --> 04:35:16,150 >> It's still in for now. 7270 04:35:16,150 --> 04:35:16,160 » It's still in for now. 7271 04:35:16,160 --> 04:35:18,230 >> Correct. Yes, sir. But on my 7272 04:35:18,230 --> 04:35:18,240 » Correct. Yes, sir. But on my 7273 04:35:18,240 --> 04:35:20,160 spreadsheet, I got a lot of lines on 7274 04:35:20,160 --> 04:35:21,359 here. So, 7275 04:35:21,359 --> 04:35:23,830 >> okay. 7276 04:35:23,830 --> 04:35:23,840 » okay. 7277 04:35:23,840 --> 04:35:25,600 170 7278 04:35:25,600 --> 04:35:29,750 >> 170. Um, we've got 25,000 to just 7279 04:35:29,750 --> 04:35:29,760 » 170. Um, we've got 25,000 to just 7280 04:35:29,760 --> 04:35:32,719 continue coordinating and keeping 7281 04:35:32,719 --> 04:35:36,080 everybody up to date. And we we've got 7282 04:35:36,080 --> 04:35:38,000 some preliminary work here that I'll 7283 04:35:38,000 --> 04:35:40,959 share with you. This is we know of one 7284 04:35:40,959 --> 04:35:43,600 known uh utility conflict that we're 7285 04:35:43,600 --> 04:35:44,799 going to have to deal with on this 7286 04:35:44,799 --> 04:35:48,799 project. And we we know that this can be 7287 04:35:48,799 --> 04:35:51,279 a a reimbursement. And I've already 7288 04:35:51,279 --> 04:35:53,279 explained to Text Dot that, you know, we 7289 04:35:53,279 --> 04:35:56,719 we need to get moving on the agreement 7290 04:35:56,719 --> 04:36:00,080 for reimbursement. You can see this 7291 04:36:00,080 --> 04:36:01,920 water line that was put in with Hasslip 7292 04:36:01,920 --> 04:36:05,199 Parkway up inter modal is going to end 7293 04:36:05,199 --> 04:36:07,439 up underneath the 7294 04:36:07,439 --> 04:36:12,000 the landing of the 170. And so as of 7295 04:36:12,000 --> 04:36:14,080 right now, we think that's our only 7296 04:36:14,080 --> 04:36:15,680 utility conflict. We do have a sewer 7297 04:36:15,680 --> 04:36:17,760 line up through here, but I don't think 7298 04:36:17,760 --> 04:36:19,199 they're going to be they're done with 7299 04:36:19,199 --> 04:36:22,719 their bridge. So just general project 7300 04:36:22,719 --> 04:36:23,520 coordination and 7301 04:36:23,520 --> 04:36:24,709 >> it's right here. 7302 04:36:24,709 --> 04:36:24,719 » it's right here. 7303 04:36:24,719 --> 04:36:28,230 >> They're all right here. 7304 04:36:28,230 --> 04:36:28,240 » They're all right here. 7305 04:36:28,240 --> 04:36:30,080 Sorry. 7306 04:36:30,080 --> 04:36:33,750 >> Uh there's there's rightway that needs 7307 04:36:33,750 --> 04:36:33,760 » Uh there's there's rightway that needs 7308 04:36:33,760 --> 04:36:36,080 to be conveyed for this project and 7309 04:36:36,080 --> 04:36:37,920 right now the the roadway has been 7310 04:36:37,920 --> 04:36:40,639 pushed to the north side of Hasset 7311 04:36:40,639 --> 04:36:42,400 Parkway where where the city currently 7312 04:36:42,400 --> 04:36:45,920 has all of the uh temporary or permanent 7313 04:36:45,920 --> 04:36:48,240 drainage and grading easements that were 7314 04:36:48,240 --> 04:36:50,561 acquired as part of Hasset Parkway. So 7315 04:36:50,561 --> 04:36:52,160 there's some work there that needs to be 7316 04:36:52,160 --> 04:36:55,439 done to assist in the transfer and 7317 04:36:55,439 --> 04:36:58,639 conveyance of those easements as right 7318 04:36:58,639 --> 04:37:01,359 away to text dot pending council 7319 04:37:01,359 --> 04:37:02,639 approval. 7320 04:37:02,639 --> 04:37:04,629 >> So that's just a a placeholder to kind 7321 04:37:04,629 --> 04:37:04,639 » So that's just a a placeholder to kind 7322 04:37:04,639 --> 04:37:06,240 of keep 7323 04:37:06,240 --> 04:37:08,390 >> to determine how to assign a value to 7324 04:37:08,390 --> 04:37:08,400 » to determine how to assign a value to 7325 04:37:08,400 --> 04:37:08,959 that. 7326 04:37:08,959 --> 04:37:11,269 >> Yes, sir. 7327 04:37:11,269 --> 04:37:11,279 » Yes, sir. 7328 04:37:11,279 --> 04:37:13,119 Fort Worth. That's what they've done 7329 04:37:13,119 --> 04:37:15,680 with theirs. And when they're assigning 7330 04:37:15,680 --> 04:37:19,199 their rightway to Tax Dot, I think 7331 04:37:19,199 --> 04:37:20,959 they're paying upwards something like 7332 04:37:20,959 --> 04:37:24,879 $65 a square foot. 7333 04:37:24,879 --> 04:37:28,160 So, we got to uh work we can get some 7334 04:37:28,160 --> 04:37:30,719 people who have done it and assign 7335 04:37:30,719 --> 04:37:32,240 values to that. 7336 04:37:32,240 --> 04:37:34,470 >> So, all of these fees in here you see 7337 04:37:34,470 --> 04:37:34,480 » So, all of these fees in here you see 7338 04:37:34,480 --> 04:37:37,199 for our city engineer on this project, 7339 04:37:37,199 --> 04:37:40,959 they will all be reimbursed. 7340 04:37:40,959 --> 04:37:44,160 This is a 100% text dot project and any 7341 04:37:44,160 --> 04:37:46,719 participation on anybody's part, our 7342 04:37:46,719 --> 04:37:49,439 city engineer or anyone else that is 7343 04:37:49,439 --> 04:37:57,029 part of that uh cost in that project. 7344 04:37:57,039 --> 04:38:01,680 » So 170 is just kind of moving along. 7345 04:38:01,680 --> 04:38:03,189 >> Um 7346 04:38:03,189 --> 04:38:03,199 » Um 7347 04:38:03,199 --> 04:38:06,400 Hasslet Parkway, same thing. We've got 7348 04:38:06,400 --> 04:38:08,799 money in there to I think the the bigger 7349 04:38:08,799 --> 04:38:10,959 one on this the the unknown at this 7350 04:38:10,959 --> 04:38:12,959 point and I'm I'll have some more 7351 04:38:12,959 --> 04:38:15,279 information. I've got an update that I'm 7352 04:38:15,279 --> 04:38:18,480 trying to get ready for the 17th. Um 7353 04:38:18,480 --> 04:38:20,160 there is the expectation and the 7354 04:38:20,160 --> 04:38:22,160 understanding that any temporary 7355 04:38:22,160 --> 04:38:23,680 construction easements or grading 7356 04:38:23,680 --> 04:38:26,160 easements that are necessary to support 7357 04:38:26,160 --> 04:38:27,760 this project would be the city's 7358 04:38:27,760 --> 04:38:31,119 responsibility to get. Now, I don't know 7359 04:38:31,119 --> 04:38:33,920 if that's get on your dollar, if that's 7360 04:38:33,920 --> 04:38:36,639 get and be reimbursed. Those are some 7361 04:38:36,639 --> 04:38:38,639 details that we need to sort through, 7362 04:38:38,639 --> 04:38:40,480 but [clears throat] a lot of the 7363 04:38:40,480 --> 04:38:42,400 easements that were acquired under the 7364 04:38:42,400 --> 04:38:44,080 original High Parkway project have 7365 04:38:44,080 --> 04:38:47,760 either expired or are expiring. 7366 04:38:47,760 --> 04:38:51,760 And um obviously if they needed those to 7367 04:38:51,760 --> 04:38:54,320 construct the original project, there's 7368 04:38:54,320 --> 04:38:56,639 u a good stretch of that great 7369 04:38:56,639 --> 04:38:59,520 improvements still necessary. So, um, 7370 04:38:59,520 --> 04:39:02,400 we'll have some additional information, 7371 04:39:02,400 --> 04:39:04,719 uh, for you at the meeting on the 17th 7372 04:39:04,719 --> 04:39:08,629 for this project. 7373 04:39:08,639 --> 04:39:09,520 » We're also trying to 7374 04:39:09,520 --> 04:39:11,429 >> So, what's happening on the 17th? 7375 04:39:11,429 --> 04:39:11,439 » So, what's happening on the 17th? 7376 04:39:11,439 --> 04:39:13,670 >> I'll have an update for the for everyone 7377 04:39:13,670 --> 04:39:13,680 » I'll have an update for the for everyone 7378 04:39:13,680 --> 04:39:15,279 on on Hassla Parkway 7379 04:39:15,279 --> 04:39:17,349 >> concerning required easements. 7380 04:39:17,349 --> 04:39:17,359 » concerning required easements. 7381 04:39:17,359 --> 04:39:20,070 >> Uh, potentially. Yes, sir. Contract 7382 04:39:20,070 --> 04:39:20,080 » Uh, potentially. Yes, sir. Contract 7383 04:39:20,080 --> 04:39:22,480 status, schedule, discussions with text 7384 04:39:22,480 --> 04:39:25,439 dot, agreement status, easements. 7385 04:39:25,439 --> 04:39:26,390 >> All right. Yes, sir. 7386 04:39:26,390 --> 04:39:26,400 » All right. Yes, sir. 7387 04:39:26,400 --> 04:39:29,109 >> Okay. Well, we have a very comprehensive 7388 04:39:29,109 --> 04:39:29,119 » Okay. Well, we have a very comprehensive 7389 04:39:29,119 --> 04:39:31,760 list of easements 7390 04:39:31,760 --> 04:39:33,119 and every one of them that were 7391 04:39:33,119 --> 04:39:36,000 executed. Most of them are just going to 7392 04:39:36,000 --> 04:39:41,110 them and ask them to renew it. 7393 04:39:41,120 --> 04:39:43,520 » Unless you got new defined easements. 7394 04:39:43,520 --> 04:39:44,470 >> No, sir. 7395 04:39:44,470 --> 04:39:44,480 » No, sir. 7396 04:39:44,480 --> 04:39:47,750 >> All right. 7397 04:39:47,760 --> 04:39:51,680 Okay. Um my next one, I think we're on 7398 04:39:51,680 --> 04:39:54,080 SD11. That's Careway Street and 7399 04:39:54,080 --> 04:39:56,000 drainage. We've talked about that. I 7400 04:39:56,000 --> 04:39:58,400 believe that's that intersection silver 7401 04:39:58,400 --> 04:40:02,240 sage and wild sienna. That's 125,000 for 7402 04:40:02,240 --> 04:40:04,480 survey design 7403 04:40:04,480 --> 04:40:06,798 potentially this next year. Correct. 7404 04:40:06,798 --> 04:40:07,520 Fund 20. 7405 04:40:07,520 --> 04:40:10,390 >> Um this is Yes. 7406 04:40:10,390 --> 04:40:10,400 » Um this is Yes. 7407 04:40:10,400 --> 04:40:12,390 >> 120,000. I had a question. It's on fund 7408 04:40:12,390 --> 04:40:12,400 » 120,000. I had a question. It's on fund 7409 04:40:12,400 --> 04:40:15,520 20 and it's on here SD11. Is there do 7410 04:40:15,520 --> 04:40:16,160 you see what I'm saying? 7411 04:40:16,160 --> 04:40:18,230 >> No, I just messed up. 7412 04:40:18,230 --> 04:40:18,240 » No, I just messed up. 7413 04:40:18,240 --> 04:40:20,390 >> Okay. So, is SD11 going to go away? 7414 04:40:20,390 --> 04:40:20,400 » Okay. So, is SD11 going to go away? 7415 04:40:20,400 --> 04:40:21,750 >> Yeah, we're going to take that one away. 7416 04:40:21,750 --> 04:40:21,760 » Yeah, we're going to take that one away. 7417 04:40:21,760 --> 04:40:23,680 We'll just leave that under fund 20 if 7418 04:40:23,680 --> 04:40:26,480 everybody's okay with that. Yeah. Okay. 7419 04:40:26,480 --> 04:40:27,520 Thank you. 7420 04:40:27,520 --> 04:40:29,510 >> Okay. Time out. I'm not I just heard two 7421 04:40:29,510 --> 04:40:29,520 » Okay. Time out. I'm not I just heard two 7422 04:40:29,520 --> 04:40:31,440 different things. We're going to take it 7423 04:40:31,440 --> 04:40:32,878 away, but we're going to leave it under 7424 04:40:32,878 --> 04:40:34,080 fund 20. 7425 04:40:34,080 --> 04:40:35,910 >> Well, remove to 7426 04:40:35,910 --> 04:40:35,920 » Well, remove to 7427 04:40:35,920 --> 04:40:38,310 >> I think remove it from my spreadsheet as 7428 04:40:38,310 --> 04:40:38,320 » I think remove it from my spreadsheet as 7429 04:40:38,320 --> 04:40:41,200 a standalone SD11 project 7430 04:40:41,200 --> 04:40:42,628 >> because we've already got it cast. 7431 04:40:42,628 --> 04:40:42,638 » because we've already got it cast. 7432 04:40:42,638 --> 04:40:45,030 >> It's included with the Careway entrance. 7433 04:40:45,030 --> 04:40:45,040 » It's included with the Careway entrance. 7434 04:40:45,040 --> 04:40:45,440 Yeah. 7435 04:40:45,440 --> 04:40:46,948 >> And on the 7436 04:40:46,948 --> 04:40:46,958 » And on the 7437 04:40:46,958 --> 04:40:47,750 >> fun 20. 7438 04:40:47,750 --> 04:40:47,760 » fun 20. 7439 04:40:47,760 --> 04:40:52,708 >> Fund 20. Yes, sir. Got it. Okay. 7440 04:40:52,718 --> 04:40:54,878 Aenddale Hasslet grade separated 7441 04:40:54,878 --> 04:40:59,120 crossing. That's the the bridge 7442 04:40:59,120 --> 04:41:02,000 project. Short bridge, long bridge, 7443 04:41:02,000 --> 04:41:05,520 whatever bridge there is. 7444 04:41:05,520 --> 04:41:07,520 Um, 7445 04:41:07,520 --> 04:41:09,680 Brentwood, 7446 04:41:09,680 --> 04:41:13,590 let me ask you something. 7447 04:41:13,600 --> 04:41:16,480 The Hasslet 7448 04:41:16,480 --> 04:41:19,600 grade separated. Happenel Hasslet grade 7449 04:41:19,600 --> 04:41:22,628 separated 7450 04:41:22,638 --> 04:41:24,160 crossing 7451 04:41:24,160 --> 04:41:28,160 and also Hasset Parkway improvement. 7452 04:41:28,160 --> 04:41:31,280 The Hasslet Parkway improvement includes 7453 04:41:31,280 --> 04:41:33,520 the grade separation. 7454 04:41:33,520 --> 04:41:34,788 >> Correct. 7455 04:41:34,788 --> 04:41:34,798 » Correct. 7456 04:41:34,798 --> 04:41:38,080 And so you got a 7457 04:41:38,080 --> 04:41:41,200 Aendelle Hasslet grade separation 7458 04:41:41,200 --> 04:41:44,628 specific 7459 04:41:44,638 --> 04:41:46,878 and it's already included under Hasslet 7460 04:41:46,878 --> 04:41:49,520 Parkway improvement. How does that work? 7461 04:41:49,520 --> 04:41:50,878 What's happening with that? 7462 04:41:50,878 --> 04:41:53,270 >> Well, the the 7463 04:41:53,270 --> 04:41:53,280 » Well, the the 7464 04:41:53,280 --> 04:41:56,240 short bridge is currently contemplated 7465 04:41:56,240 --> 04:41:57,920 and that is what 7466 04:41:57,920 --> 04:42:00,230 >> that's in the has a parkway improvement 7467 04:42:00,230 --> 04:42:00,240 » that's in the has a parkway improvement 7468 04:42:00,240 --> 04:42:01,440 project as a whole. 7469 04:42:01,440 --> 04:42:03,110 >> Yes, sir. And then the long bridge was 7470 04:42:03,110 --> 04:42:03,120 » Yes, sir. And then the long bridge was 7471 04:42:03,120 --> 04:42:05,120 kind of a standalone project. So we just 7472 04:42:05,120 --> 04:42:06,560 had that developed and we were just 7473 04:42:06,560 --> 04:42:07,520 carrying it over. 7474 04:42:07,520 --> 04:42:09,670 >> So this is long bridge. 7475 04:42:09,670 --> 04:42:09,680 » So this is long bridge. 7476 04:42:09,680 --> 04:42:11,510 >> I guess it would be better to just call 7477 04:42:11,510 --> 04:42:11,520 » I guess it would be better to just call 7478 04:42:11,520 --> 04:42:12,718 that out as the long bridge 7479 04:42:12,718 --> 04:42:14,788 >> so we know which cuz this is just 7480 04:42:14,788 --> 04:42:14,798 » so we know which cuz this is just 7481 04:42:14,798 --> 04:42:15,910 >> Yes, sir. Understand. 7482 04:42:15,910 --> 04:42:15,920 » Yes, sir. Understand. 7483 04:42:15,920 --> 04:42:18,628 >> Appear to me we're paying for it twice 7484 04:42:18,628 --> 04:42:18,638 » Appear to me we're paying for it twice 7485 04:42:18,638 --> 04:42:20,160 here. 7486 04:42:20,160 --> 04:42:22,400 All right. I'm going to put long bridge. 7487 04:42:22,400 --> 04:42:25,040 We are 7488 04:42:25,040 --> 04:42:26,868 >> Can can we actually leave it neutral and 7489 04:42:26,868 --> 04:42:26,878 » Can can we actually leave it neutral and 7490 04:42:26,878 --> 04:42:29,040 just maybe make a note underneath the 7491 04:42:29,040 --> 04:42:31,200 description just in case we're needing 7492 04:42:31,200 --> 04:42:32,638 say the long bridge we don't get the 7493 04:42:32,638 --> 04:42:34,080 grant and we're needing the funds for 7494 04:42:34,080 --> 04:42:35,840 something for the short bridge. Could we 7495 04:42:35,840 --> 04:42:38,718 just keep the language neutral? 7496 04:42:38,718 --> 04:42:40,390 >> Is there something saying wrong with 7497 04:42:40,390 --> 04:42:40,400 » Is there something saying wrong with 7498 04:42:40,400 --> 04:42:41,760 saying long bridge? 7499 04:42:41,760 --> 04:42:43,990 >> It means that we can't use it for 7500 04:42:43,990 --> 04:42:44,000 » It means that we can't use it for 7501 04:42:44,000 --> 04:42:45,670 >> Yeah, it ties it to that only. And I 7502 04:42:45,670 --> 04:42:45,680 » Yeah, it ties it to that only. And I 7503 04:42:45,680 --> 04:42:47,760 thought also on the house park way 7504 04:42:47,760 --> 04:42:49,200 improvements it could deal with 7505 04:42:49,200 --> 04:42:51,040 easements as well, not just grade 7506 04:42:51,040 --> 04:42:52,320 separation. So 7507 04:42:52,320 --> 04:42:53,030 >> say that again. 7508 04:42:53,030 --> 04:42:53,040 » say that again. 7509 04:42:53,040 --> 04:42:54,470 >> But also the Hasslet Parkway 7510 04:42:54,470 --> 04:42:54,480 » But also the Hasslet Parkway 7511 04:42:54,480 --> 04:42:57,280 improvements SD10 does also encompass 7512 04:42:57,280 --> 04:43:01,120 more than just the grade separation. So 7513 04:43:01,120 --> 04:43:02,390 >> I kind of like how they're both 7514 04:43:02,390 --> 04:43:02,400 » I kind of like how they're both 7515 04:43:02,400 --> 04:43:05,750 >> that whole project covers from I35 7516 04:43:05,750 --> 04:43:05,760 » that whole project covers from I35 7517 04:43:05,760 --> 04:43:07,600 to our western city 7518 04:43:07,600 --> 04:43:12,470 >> right through stage 16 a the base bridge 7519 04:43:12,470 --> 04:43:12,480 » right through stage 16 a the base bridge 7520 04:43:12,480 --> 04:43:15,280 being the short bridge included. 7521 04:43:15,280 --> 04:43:16,628 >> I'm just suggesting we leave the 7522 04:43:16,628 --> 04:43:16,638 » I'm just suggesting we leave the 7523 04:43:16,638 --> 04:43:17,840 language as is. 7524 04:43:17,840 --> 04:43:20,628 >> I agree. 7525 04:43:20,628 --> 04:43:20,638 » I agree. 7526 04:43:20,638 --> 04:43:21,520 suggesting one. 7527 04:43:21,520 --> 04:43:22,070 >> Can I 7528 04:43:22,070 --> 04:43:22,080 » Can I 7529 04:43:22,080 --> 04:43:23,830 >> leave the language as is? 7530 04:43:23,830 --> 04:43:23,840 » leave the language as is? 7531 04:43:23,840 --> 04:43:25,110 >> Don't add long bridge. 7532 04:43:25,110 --> 04:43:25,120 » Don't add long bridge. 7533 04:43:25,120 --> 04:43:25,670 >> Add long bridge. 7534 04:43:25,670 --> 04:43:25,680 » Add long bridge. 7535 04:43:25,680 --> 04:43:26,788 >> While we're talking about has a parkway, 7536 04:43:26,788 --> 04:43:26,798 » While we're talking about has a parkway, 7537 04:43:26,798 --> 04:43:28,718 can I ask a dumb question, Mr. Mayor? 7538 04:43:28,718 --> 04:43:29,670 >> Sure. 7539 04:43:29,670 --> 04:43:29,680 » Sure. 7540 04:43:29,680 --> 04:43:32,470 >> Um whether it's the short bridge or the 7541 04:43:32,470 --> 04:43:32,480 » Um whether it's the short bridge or the 7542 04:43:32,480 --> 04:43:35,920 long bridge, do we need to be currently 7543 04:43:35,920 --> 04:43:38,878 getting rideway to prepare for either 7544 04:43:38,878 --> 04:43:40,718 possibility? 7545 04:43:40,718 --> 04:43:43,110 >> We don't know what rideway we need and 7546 04:43:43,110 --> 04:43:43,120 » We don't know what rideway we need and 7547 04:43:43,120 --> 04:43:44,400 that's what they're working towards 7548 04:43:44,400 --> 04:43:45,120 right now. 7549 04:43:45,120 --> 04:43:47,750 >> Okay. an extra problem. 7550 04:43:47,750 --> 04:43:47,760 » Okay. an extra problem. 7551 04:43:47,760 --> 04:43:49,510 >> Well, I'm trying to piece it out a 7552 04:43:49,510 --> 04:43:49,520 » Well, I'm trying to piece it out a 7553 04:43:49,520 --> 04:43:51,920 little more so it's not one such big 7554 04:43:51,920 --> 04:43:53,680 chunks. 7555 04:43:53,680 --> 04:43:54,868 >> I mean either either way 7556 04:43:54,868 --> 04:43:54,878 » I mean either either way 7557 04:43:54,878 --> 04:43:57,350 >> almost all of the right away 7558 04:43:57,350 --> 04:43:57,360 » almost all of the right away 7559 04:43:57,360 --> 04:43:59,350 >> is acquired that's needed. They're not 7560 04:43:59,350 --> 04:43:59,360 » is acquired that's needed. They're not 7561 04:43:59,360 --> 04:44:00,958 rerouting anything 7562 04:44:00,958 --> 04:44:01,830 >> already. 7563 04:44:01,830 --> 04:44:01,840 » already. 7564 04:44:01,840 --> 04:44:05,190 >> Yes, that was that was before you know 7565 04:44:05,190 --> 04:44:05,200 » Yes, that was that was before you know 7566 04:44:05,200 --> 04:44:07,440 when the project started. 7567 04:44:07,440 --> 04:44:08,788 >> Yeah, that chambers our former economic 7568 04:44:08,788 --> 04:44:08,798 » Yeah, that chambers our former economic 7569 04:44:08,798 --> 04:44:10,320 development coordinator got all those 7570 04:44:10,320 --> 04:44:11,760 parcels. Okay, that's 7571 04:44:11,760 --> 04:44:14,310 >> there may be some the easement work, 7572 04:44:14,310 --> 04:44:14,320 » there may be some the easement work, 7573 04:44:14,320 --> 04:44:16,400 construction easements, that's got to 7574 04:44:16,400 --> 04:44:18,958 all be renewed, 7575 04:44:18,958 --> 04:44:22,948 >> but the rightway itself, it should be 7576 04:44:22,948 --> 04:44:22,958 » but the rightway itself, it should be 7577 04:44:22,958 --> 04:44:23,680 sufficient. 7578 04:44:23,680 --> 04:44:25,990 >> Okay, that's what I'm asking. Thank you. 7579 04:44:25,990 --> 04:44:26,000 » Okay, that's what I'm asking. Thank you. 7580 04:44:26,000 --> 04:44:27,670 >> Follow-up question to what Chris just 7581 04:44:27,670 --> 04:44:27,680 » Follow-up question to what Chris just 7582 04:44:27,680 --> 04:44:29,920 asked. Is there any utility movement we 7583 04:44:29,920 --> 04:44:31,600 could be getting ahead of so we're not 7584 04:44:31,600 --> 04:44:34,240 running into issues like they did with 7585 04:44:34,240 --> 04:44:37,120 station 69? 7586 04:44:37,120 --> 04:44:39,910 >> Uh, potentially. you know, we've we 7587 04:44:39,910 --> 04:44:39,920 » Uh, potentially. you know, we've we 7588 04:44:39,920 --> 04:44:45,920 asked for a a forensic uh 7589 04:44:45,920 --> 04:44:48,878 summary of the project expenses for the 7590 04:44:48,878 --> 04:44:50,958 original project as it relates to the 7591 04:44:50,958 --> 04:44:53,120 funds that the city contributed for 7592 04:44:53,120 --> 04:44:55,760 utility construction. We know that our 7593 04:44:55,760 --> 04:44:58,000 utilities weren't quite finished and so 7594 04:44:58,000 --> 04:45:00,240 we're we still waiting for that to come 7595 04:45:00,240 --> 04:45:04,080 back. Um we're going to know a lot more 7596 04:45:04,080 --> 04:45:06,400 over the next two months. They're Kimley 7597 04:45:06,400 --> 04:45:08,560 Horn should be under contract any if 7598 04:45:08,560 --> 04:45:10,878 they're not under contract they they 7599 04:45:10,878 --> 04:45:12,400 will be under contract by the time we 7600 04:45:12,400 --> 04:45:14,400 come to the meeting on the 17th 7601 04:45:14,400 --> 04:45:17,030 >> and at that at that point we'll we can 7602 04:45:17,030 --> 04:45:17,040 » and at that at that point we'll we can 7603 04:45:17,040 --> 04:45:18,798 begin working with them to figure out 7604 04:45:18,798 --> 04:45:20,628 >> under contract. 7605 04:45:20,628 --> 04:45:20,638 » under contract. 7606 04:45:20,638 --> 04:45:23,350 >> Okay. So they're under contract now. Do 7607 04:45:23,350 --> 04:45:23,360 » Okay. So they're under contract now. Do 7608 04:45:23,360 --> 04:45:24,958 you think there's anything we need a 7609 04:45:24,958 --> 04:45:27,040 budget to help us get through the next 7610 04:45:27,040 --> 04:45:29,360 year? Even if it's being reimbursed 7611 04:45:29,360 --> 04:45:30,160 through 7612 04:45:30,160 --> 04:45:31,750 >> I think what's in this budget is 7613 04:45:31,750 --> 04:45:31,760 » I think what's in this budget is 7614 04:45:31,760 --> 04:45:33,760 adequate for this year given that 7615 04:45:33,760 --> 04:45:35,440 they're they're late start on the 7616 04:45:35,440 --> 04:45:37,760 project. Now, that may need to change as 7617 04:45:37,760 --> 04:45:39,280 we get through this year. We may need to 7618 04:45:39,280 --> 04:45:41,600 up that, but our goal is to try to get 7619 04:45:41,600 --> 04:45:44,560 them to um pay for everything and it's 7620 04:45:44,560 --> 04:45:46,080 not even a reimbursement. 7621 04:45:46,080 --> 04:45:48,310 >> Okay. You want them to direct your the 7622 04:45:48,310 --> 04:45:48,320 » Okay. You want them to direct your the 7623 04:45:48,320 --> 04:45:50,160 goal is to have them directly. 7624 04:45:50,160 --> 04:45:51,670 >> I think that might that would make the 7625 04:45:51,670 --> 04:45:51,680 » I think that might that would make the 7626 04:45:51,680 --> 04:45:53,120 most sense and then the city's not 7627 04:45:53,120 --> 04:45:54,878 having to fund it and get reimbured 7628 04:45:54,878 --> 04:45:55,840 tracking it. 7629 04:45:55,840 --> 04:45:57,030 >> Got it. 7630 04:45:57,030 --> 04:45:57,040 » Got it. 7631 04:45:57,040 --> 04:45:59,190 >> But we'll we'll get into that as we move 7632 04:45:59,190 --> 04:45:59,200 » But we'll we'll get into that as we move 7633 04:45:59,200 --> 04:46:06,868 forward over the next few months. 7634 04:46:06,878 --> 04:46:15,350 Uh 13. You want to do 13? Uh Brentwood. 7635 04:46:15,360 --> 04:46:19,750 It's budgeted. 7636 04:46:19,760 --> 04:46:22,878 » Okay. So, that's we've got all the uh 7637 04:46:22,878 --> 04:46:28,070 surveying back on that. Um 7638 04:46:28,080 --> 04:46:30,080 it's a pretty straightforward project. 7639 04:46:30,080 --> 04:46:32,160 Just adjusting the grades. You can kind 7640 04:46:32,160 --> 04:46:34,878 of see in this exhibit that's up on the 7641 04:46:34,878 --> 04:46:36,718 screen how you've got certain portions 7642 04:46:36,718 --> 04:46:39,680 of that roadway that get real close to 7643 04:46:39,680 --> 04:46:42,798 the rideway line. And we've got some 7644 04:46:42,798 --> 04:46:44,240 drainage issues that need to be 7645 04:46:44,240 --> 04:46:46,000 corrected. We got bunch of driveways 7646 04:46:46,000 --> 04:46:49,360 that need to be replaced. So, um, trying 7647 04:46:49,360 --> 04:46:51,360 to keep that project moving forward. 7648 04:46:51,360 --> 04:46:54,240 We've got some carryover funds, I guess, 7649 04:46:54,240 --> 04:46:56,160 to keep that one moving. We estimate 7650 04:46:56,160 --> 04:47:03,190 that to be about a $2 million project. 7651 04:47:03,200 --> 04:47:05,440 Showing construction next year, 7652 04:47:05,440 --> 04:47:07,200 whatever, whatever you guys want to do 7653 04:47:07,200 --> 04:47:09,318 on that one. 7654 04:47:09,318 --> 04:47:13,510 [cough and clears throat] 7655 04:47:13,520 --> 04:47:19,200 Okay. So SD13, everybody good with that? 7656 04:47:19,200 --> 04:47:22,310 >> Okay. The Tarant County road ILA 7657 04:47:22,310 --> 04:47:22,320 » Okay. The Tarant County road ILA 7658 04:47:22,320 --> 04:47:27,040 projects, that would be um 7659 04:47:27,040 --> 04:47:32,080 well, those are those are way out. 7660 04:47:32,080 --> 04:47:34,320 Um nothing we need to worry about right 7661 04:47:34,320 --> 04:47:38,160 now. Did we cover we covered the um 7662 04:47:38,160 --> 04:47:41,920 earlier in the discussion the uh Bane 7663 04:47:41,920 --> 04:47:44,958 Road and Maxwell as part of this and 7664 04:47:44,958 --> 04:47:46,160 then 7665 04:47:46,160 --> 04:47:48,628 >> and then the schoolhouse Westport 7666 04:47:48,628 --> 04:47:48,638 » and then the schoolhouse Westport 7667 04:47:48,638 --> 04:47:52,150 intersection. 7668 04:47:52,160 --> 04:47:53,920 » Okay. 7669 04:47:53,920 --> 04:47:55,840 So let's see. 7670 04:47:55,840 --> 04:47:58,070 >> Let me ask you where is uh Westport 7671 04:47:58,070 --> 04:47:58,080 » Let me ask you where is uh Westport 7672 04:47:58,080 --> 04:48:03,750 Parkway and 156 under this ILA list? 7673 04:48:03,760 --> 04:48:07,120 Well, it is. 7674 04:48:07,120 --> 04:48:09,600 It's not in here. 7675 04:48:09,600 --> 04:48:10,868 >> It needs to go in. 7676 04:48:10,868 --> 04:48:10,878 » It needs to go in. 7677 04:48:10,878 --> 04:48:15,990 >> It does need to go in. 7678 04:48:16,000 --> 04:48:16,638 » That's 7679 04:48:16,638 --> 04:48:21,510 >> Westport Parkway and FM 156. 7680 04:48:21,510 --> 04:48:21,520 » Westport Parkway and FM 156. 7681 04:48:21,520 --> 04:48:23,670 >> It's not on this list right here. 7682 04:48:23,670 --> 04:48:23,680 » It's not on this list right here. 7683 04:48:23,680 --> 04:48:25,910 >> We We had it. It's It was in this year's 7684 04:48:25,910 --> 04:48:25,920 » We We had it. It's It was in this year's 7685 04:48:25,920 --> 04:48:27,840 budget. It just the budget amount 7686 04:48:27,840 --> 04:48:28,718 changed. So, 7687 04:48:28,718 --> 04:48:30,390 >> yeah. I just need to find it. 7688 04:48:30,390 --> 04:48:30,400 » yeah. I just need to find it. 7689 04:48:30,400 --> 04:48:30,628 >> Yeah. 7690 04:48:30,628 --> 04:48:30,638 » Yeah. 7691 04:48:30,638 --> 04:48:32,310 >> Where's it at? 7692 04:48:32,310 --> 04:48:32,320 » Where's it at? 7693 04:48:32,320 --> 04:48:33,840 No, I don't even It's not even on my 7694 04:48:33,840 --> 04:48:34,160 sheet. 7695 04:48:34,160 --> 04:48:35,350 >> It's not on this sheet. 7696 04:48:35,350 --> 04:48:35,360 » It's not on this sheet. 7697 04:48:35,360 --> 04:48:35,990 >> No, sir. 7698 04:48:35,990 --> 04:48:36,000 » No, sir. 7699 04:48:36,000 --> 04:48:37,670 >> And this sheet needs to correlate. 7700 04:48:37,670 --> 04:48:37,680 » And this sheet needs to correlate. 7701 04:48:37,680 --> 04:48:43,030 >> Yes, sir. I agree. 7702 04:48:43,040 --> 04:48:45,760 » This one. 7703 04:48:45,760 --> 04:48:57,430 >> This one. 7704 04:48:57,440 --> 04:49:00,240 » Is that going to be SD16? 7705 04:49:00,240 --> 04:49:01,760 I'm going to put it under 14. 7706 04:49:01,760 --> 04:49:01,990 >> Okay. 7707 04:49:01,990 --> 04:49:02,000 » Okay. 7708 04:49:02,000 --> 04:49:03,350 >> You're going to put it under 14? 7709 04:49:03,350 --> 04:49:03,360 » You're going to put it under 14? 7710 04:49:03,360 --> 04:49:04,150 >> I think so. 7711 04:49:04,150 --> 04:49:04,160 » I think so. 7712 04:49:04,160 --> 04:49:09,830 >> Okay. SD14. And so you need 600,000. 7713 04:49:09,830 --> 04:49:09,840 » Okay. SD14. And so you need 600,000. 7714 04:49:09,840 --> 04:49:11,750 >> We had 450. 7715 04:49:11,750 --> 04:49:11,760 » We had 450. 7716 04:49:11,760 --> 04:49:12,868 >> Is this the drawing? 7717 04:49:12,868 --> 04:49:12,878 » Is this the drawing? 7718 04:49:12,878 --> 04:49:15,030 >> Four. Yes, ma'am. 7719 04:49:15,030 --> 04:49:15,040 » Four. Yes, ma'am. 7720 04:49:15,040 --> 04:49:17,030 >> Yes. 7721 04:49:17,030 --> 04:49:17,040 » Yes. 7722 04:49:17,040 --> 04:49:20,560 So the the original when this when we 7723 04:49:20,560 --> 04:49:24,000 budgeted for this project or u conceived 7724 04:49:24,000 --> 04:49:26,798 the estimate and the concept plan last 7725 04:49:26,798 --> 04:49:31,040 year in summer of 2025 7726 04:49:31,040 --> 04:49:34,000 the thought was we'll just mill it and 7727 04:49:34,000 --> 04:49:38,480 we'll restripe it. Um, we also we had a 7728 04:49:38,480 --> 04:49:40,878 project earlier this year where we went 7729 04:49:40,878 --> 04:49:44,160 in and replaced those uh those 7730 04:49:44,160 --> 04:49:47,120 transitions at the bridges 7731 04:49:47,120 --> 04:49:49,600 and in discussing with everybody 7732 04:49:49,600 --> 04:49:51,760 including the county folks, it was all 7733 04:49:51,760 --> 04:49:53,440 agreed that this needed to be completely 7734 04:49:53,440 --> 04:49:57,840 rebuilt. So to rebuild it, to fix it, 7735 04:49:57,840 --> 04:50:01,040 right, we need 600,000, 7736 04:50:01,040 --> 04:50:04,560 which is an increase from the 450 or 400 7737 04:50:04,560 --> 04:50:06,958 that's currently in the budget. 7738 04:50:06,958 --> 04:50:08,628 >> Mike, this kind of looks similar to what 7739 04:50:08,628 --> 04:50:08,638 » Mike, this kind of looks similar to what 7740 04:50:08,638 --> 04:50:10,878 we have now. Can you describe the 7741 04:50:10,878 --> 04:50:12,160 changes? Like 7742 04:50:12,160 --> 04:50:14,230 >> I think the only real the only real 7743 04:50:14,230 --> 04:50:14,240 » I think the only real the only real 7744 04:50:14,240 --> 04:50:18,000 difference is um basically setting up 7745 04:50:18,000 --> 04:50:20,240 three lanes here, one straight, one 7746 04:50:20,240 --> 04:50:23,440 dedicated right, one dedicated left 7747 04:50:23,440 --> 04:50:26,320 um to facilitate that westbound 7748 04:50:26,320 --> 04:50:29,280 traffic movement. 7749 04:50:29,280 --> 04:50:30,948 >> It does. Now, that'd be very convenient 7750 04:50:30,948 --> 04:50:30,958 » It does. Now, that'd be very convenient 7751 04:50:30,958 --> 04:50:32,878 for people that are going right to 7752 04:50:32,878 --> 04:50:33,440 school. 7753 04:50:33,440 --> 04:50:34,230 >> It would be, 7754 04:50:34,230 --> 04:50:34,240 » It would be, 7755 04:50:34,240 --> 04:50:38,470 >> but also the eastbound is keeping those 7756 04:50:38,470 --> 04:50:38,480 » but also the eastbound is keeping those 7757 04:50:38,480 --> 04:50:41,600 two lanes instead of merging right there 7758 04:50:41,600 --> 04:50:43,520 at schoolhouse road into one. 7759 04:50:43,520 --> 04:50:45,190 >> Yes, sir. 7760 04:50:45,190 --> 04:50:45,200 » Yes, sir. 7761 04:50:45,200 --> 04:50:48,150 >> And at some point, just one second. at 7762 04:50:48,150 --> 04:50:48,160 » And at some point, just one second. at 7763 04:50:48,160 --> 04:50:50,240 some point when and if there's some 7764 04:50:50,240 --> 04:50:52,798 interim improvements that may need to be 7765 04:50:52,798 --> 04:50:55,840 looked at on 156 there may be you may 7766 04:50:55,840 --> 04:50:59,280 have the ability to um send more 7767 04:50:59,280 --> 04:51:01,920 movements down towards Aenddale Hasslet 7768 04:51:01,920 --> 04:51:04,400 and so that would set us up for that 7769 04:51:04,400 --> 04:51:06,320 possibility that middle lane that's 7770 04:51:06,320 --> 04:51:08,080 currently straight only could be 7771 04:51:08,080 --> 04:51:10,480 straight left once you have the capacity 7772 04:51:10,480 --> 04:51:13,680 on 156 as some because I think if you if 7773 04:51:13,680 --> 04:51:15,920 you look at it and all this is we've got 7774 04:51:15,920 --> 04:51:17,440 that signal 7775 04:51:17,440 --> 04:51:19,600 study and traffic study that Lee 7776 04:51:19,600 --> 04:51:21,200 Engineering is doing. They're about to 7777 04:51:21,200 --> 04:51:23,760 go back out once school's back in and re 7778 04:51:23,760 --> 04:51:25,360 recollect data, but a lot of that 7779 04:51:25,360 --> 04:51:28,160 movement appears to be folks trying to 7780 04:51:28,160 --> 04:51:30,878 go down and out Aenddale Hasslet Way. 7781 04:51:30,878 --> 04:51:32,958 So, this sets us up. Now, we do have 7782 04:51:32,958 --> 04:51:34,638 some rideway that we need to acquire 7783 04:51:34,638 --> 04:51:37,200 down there. Um, and that's that's in the 7784 04:51:37,200 --> 04:51:40,160 process, but this construction is 7785 04:51:40,160 --> 04:51:44,320 programmed for December by the county, 7786 04:51:44,320 --> 04:51:46,638 December of this year. 7787 04:51:46,638 --> 04:51:48,400 So, they're going to do 7788 04:51:48,400 --> 04:51:50,708 >> they're going to do Bane Road, then 7789 04:51:50,708 --> 04:51:50,718 » they're going to do Bane Road, then 7790 04:51:50,718 --> 04:51:53,600 they'll do Maxwell, and then they'll go 7791 04:51:53,600 --> 04:51:55,840 do one or two other jobs somewhere else, 7792 04:51:55,840 --> 04:51:58,320 and then remobilize back and come take 7793 04:51:58,320 --> 04:51:59,840 care of this in December. 7794 04:51:59,840 --> 04:52:01,030 >> Can I ask a dumb question? 7795 04:52:01,030 --> 04:52:01,040 » Can I ask a dumb question? 7796 04:52:01,040 --> 04:52:03,110 >> Sure. 7797 04:52:03,110 --> 04:52:03,120 » Sure. 7798 04:52:03,120 --> 04:52:05,910 >> So, I love the threelane thing that's 7799 04:52:05,910 --> 04:52:05,920 » So, I love the threelane thing that's 7800 04:52:05,920 --> 04:52:08,080 going westbound. 7801 04:52:08,080 --> 04:52:10,638 I've seen some other intersections 7802 04:52:10,638 --> 04:52:13,440 where the right-hand lane up there that 7803 04:52:13,440 --> 04:52:16,240 is going to be a right turn only onto 7804 04:52:16,240 --> 04:52:17,760 North 156. 7805 04:52:17,760 --> 04:52:19,750 >> Yes. 7806 04:52:19,750 --> 04:52:19,760 » Yes. 7807 04:52:19,760 --> 04:52:24,628 >> Have a median that that uh separates 7808 04:52:24,628 --> 04:52:24,638 » Have a median that that uh separates 7809 04:52:24,638 --> 04:52:27,200 that off so that it's its own lane and 7810 04:52:27,200 --> 04:52:30,480 gets to bypass that first light 7811 04:52:30,480 --> 04:52:34,718 and go straight through to 156. So, 7812 04:52:34,718 --> 04:52:36,470 >> so that because they don't care about 7813 04:52:36,470 --> 04:52:36,480 » so that because they don't care about 7814 04:52:36,480 --> 04:52:39,040 going left or straight. 7815 04:52:39,040 --> 04:52:41,510 >> So, then that whole everybody that's 7816 04:52:41,510 --> 04:52:41,520 » So, then that whole everybody that's 7817 04:52:41,520 --> 04:52:43,200 going to turn north on 156 could just 7818 04:52:43,200 --> 04:52:45,680 bypass that first light, go up to 156 7819 04:52:45,680 --> 04:52:47,920 and take a ride immediately without 7820 04:52:47,920 --> 04:52:49,600 backing up that light for everybody 7821 04:52:49,600 --> 04:52:50,638 else. 7822 04:52:50,638 --> 04:52:52,470 >> I've seen that. I had that suggestion 7823 04:52:52,470 --> 04:52:52,480 » I've seen that. I had that suggestion 7824 04:52:52,480 --> 04:52:55,840 from somebody that went to Hawaii. 7825 04:52:55,840 --> 04:52:56,470 >> So, is there 7826 04:52:56,470 --> 04:52:56,480 » So, is there 7827 04:52:56,480 --> 04:52:59,350 >> anyway, but let me let me offer this. 7828 04:52:59,350 --> 04:52:59,360 » anyway, but let me let me offer this. 7829 04:52:59,360 --> 04:53:00,240 He's still talking. 7830 04:53:00,240 --> 04:53:01,990 >> And I got to think, well, that would be 7831 04:53:01,990 --> 04:53:02,000 » And I got to think, well, that would be 7832 04:53:02,000 --> 04:53:04,718 great. 7833 04:53:04,718 --> 04:53:07,430 >> But if you're on schoolhouse road, a lot 7834 04:53:07,430 --> 04:53:07,440 » But if you're on schoolhouse road, a lot 7835 04:53:07,440 --> 04:53:09,120 of people on school, they come on 7836 04:53:09,120 --> 04:53:10,560 Schoolhouse Road, 7837 04:53:10,560 --> 04:53:12,550 >> they take a left, then immediately take 7838 04:53:12,550 --> 04:53:12,560 » they take a left, then immediately take 7839 04:53:12,560 --> 04:53:13,040 a right. 7840 04:53:13,040 --> 04:53:14,550 >> You can still do that if you make the 7841 04:53:14,550 --> 04:53:14,560 » You can still do that if you make the 7842 04:53:14,560 --> 04:53:16,638 middle lane when it gets to 156 where 7843 04:53:16,638 --> 04:53:19,680 they can turn a right right there, 7844 04:53:19,680 --> 04:53:20,240 you know. 7845 04:53:20,240 --> 04:53:21,750 >> Well, your median would have 7846 04:53:21,750 --> 04:53:21,760 » Well, your median would have 7847 04:53:21,760 --> 04:53:24,070 >> So, you basically have a double right on 7848 04:53:24,070 --> 04:53:24,080 » So, you basically have a double right on 7849 04:53:24,080 --> 04:53:25,840 156 7850 04:53:25,840 --> 04:53:28,948 >> if you wanted to bypass this light. Yes. 7851 04:53:28,948 --> 04:53:28,958 » if you wanted to bypass this light. Yes. 7852 04:53:28,958 --> 04:53:30,958 For the right hand lane only had to 7853 04:53:30,958 --> 04:53:31,920 start back here. 7854 04:53:31,920 --> 04:53:32,708 >> Yes. 7855 04:53:32,708 --> 04:53:32,718 » Yes. 7856 04:53:32,718 --> 04:53:34,868 >> But these people here could not take 7857 04:53:34,868 --> 04:53:34,878 » But these people here could not take 7858 04:53:34,878 --> 04:53:35,750 >> turn to the middle lane. 7859 04:53:35,750 --> 04:53:35,760 » turn to the middle lane. 7860 04:53:35,760 --> 04:53:36,470 >> Take a left. 7861 04:53:36,470 --> 04:53:36,480 » Take a left. 7862 04:53:36,480 --> 04:53:37,910 >> No, they would turn to the middle lane. 7863 04:53:37,910 --> 04:53:37,920 » No, they would turn to the middle lane. 7864 04:53:37,920 --> 04:53:38,550 >> Take a right. 7865 04:53:38,550 --> 04:53:38,560 » Take a right. 7866 04:53:38,560 --> 04:53:39,510 >> Yes. Well, I think 7867 04:53:39,510 --> 04:53:39,520 » Yes. Well, I think 7868 04:53:39,520 --> 04:53:41,030 >> but they're I'm talking about very 7869 04:53:41,030 --> 04:53:41,040 » but they're I'm talking about very 7870 04:53:41,040 --> 04:53:42,878 specifically for those individuals in 7871 04:53:42,878 --> 04:53:44,000 the blue car left 7872 04:53:44,000 --> 04:53:45,830 >> and then go over and take a right. 7873 04:53:45,830 --> 04:53:45,840 » and then go over and take a right. 7874 04:53:45,840 --> 04:53:47,270 >> No, they would go they would turn to the 7875 04:53:47,270 --> 04:53:47,280 » No, they would go they would turn to the 7876 04:53:47,280 --> 04:53:49,520 middle lane and then turn right out of 7877 04:53:49,520 --> 04:53:50,560 the middle lane. So, you basically have 7878 04:53:50,560 --> 04:53:51,440 a double right. 7879 04:53:51,440 --> 04:53:52,550 >> Go ahead. 7880 04:53:52,550 --> 04:53:52,560 » Go ahead. 7881 04:53:52,560 --> 04:53:53,510 >> There's very few cars. 7882 04:53:53,510 --> 04:53:53,520 » There's very few cars. 7883 04:53:53,520 --> 04:53:55,990 >> You got a double right capability on 7884 04:53:55,990 --> 04:53:56,000 » You got a double right capability on 7885 04:53:56,000 --> 04:53:57,760 156. Mike. 7886 04:53:57,760 --> 04:53:59,750 >> Yeah. I think I think to your point and 7887 04:53:59,750 --> 04:53:59,760 » Yeah. I think I think to your point and 7888 04:53:59,760 --> 04:54:01,440 I'm pretty sure I looked at this at some 7889 04:54:01,440 --> 04:54:03,200 point because we had the same idea. It's 7890 04:54:03,200 --> 04:54:05,200 a good idea. You have a you you're going 7891 04:54:05,200 --> 04:54:06,718 to have a conflict point. I think 7892 04:54:06,718 --> 04:54:08,878 because if it's free if it's free, 7893 04:54:08,878 --> 04:54:12,240 right? Then any somewhere in this zone 7894 04:54:12,240 --> 04:54:14,560 here, if somebody's if somebody's coming 7895 04:54:14,560 --> 04:54:16,798 down through here and this light turns 7896 04:54:16,798 --> 04:54:19,200 and they're not having to stop, which 7897 04:54:19,200 --> 04:54:20,480 would be the whole point of that, I 7898 04:54:20,480 --> 04:54:21,920 think you're going to have a conflict 7899 04:54:21,920 --> 04:54:24,000 here with this guy turning and that guy 7900 04:54:24,000 --> 04:54:25,600 coming through that free lane because we 7901 04:54:25,600 --> 04:54:28,240 don't have dual rights, 7902 04:54:28,240 --> 04:54:31,270 >> I think. 7903 04:54:31,270 --> 04:54:31,280 » I think. 7904 04:54:31,280 --> 04:54:32,070 >> Does that make sense? 7905 04:54:32,070 --> 04:54:32,080 » Does that make sense? 7906 04:54:32,080 --> 04:54:32,708 >> I love your idea 7907 04:54:32,708 --> 04:54:32,718 » I love your idea 7908 04:54:32,718 --> 04:54:34,708 >> because it's it's a good idea if we 7909 04:54:34,708 --> 04:54:34,718 » because it's it's a good idea if we 7910 04:54:34,718 --> 04:54:36,878 didn't have that other leg coming in. 7911 04:54:36,878 --> 04:54:39,760 Well, could you just make it where you 7912 04:54:39,760 --> 04:54:41,440 can't turn left on schoolhouse road? 7913 04:54:41,440 --> 04:54:43,670 >> I do sometimes, like say I drop 7914 04:54:43,670 --> 04:54:43,680 » I do sometimes, like say I drop 7915 04:54:43,680 --> 04:54:44,878 something off at the post office before 7916 04:54:44,878 --> 04:54:46,480 I go to school and then I'm I'm going to 7917 04:54:46,480 --> 04:54:48,160 want to go left. I have gone left and 7918 04:54:48,160 --> 04:54:49,360 then got on 156. 7919 04:54:49,360 --> 04:54:51,270 >> But once we have a parkway go come 7920 04:54:51,270 --> 04:54:51,280 » But once we have a parkway go come 7921 04:54:51,280 --> 04:54:53,040 through. 7922 04:54:53,040 --> 04:54:54,948 >> How how does that make 7923 04:54:54,948 --> 04:54:54,958 » How how does that make 7924 04:54:54,958 --> 04:54:57,270 >> if it's at grade right there? It would 7925 04:54:57,270 --> 04:54:57,280 » if it's at grade right there? It would 7926 04:54:57,280 --> 04:54:58,958 give you that opportunity to go turn to 7927 04:54:58,958 --> 04:55:01,200 get to 156 there instead of going there. 7928 04:55:01,200 --> 04:55:01,840 You know, 7929 04:55:01,840 --> 04:55:03,190 >> even if it's not at grade, you would 7930 04:55:03,190 --> 04:55:03,200 » even if it's not at grade, you would 7931 04:55:03,200 --> 04:55:05,440 still be able to get through. 7932 04:55:05,440 --> 04:55:05,920 Maybe 7933 04:55:05,920 --> 04:55:07,590 >> they can't go left. 7934 04:55:07,590 --> 04:55:07,600 » they can't go left. 7935 04:55:07,600 --> 04:55:08,230 >> So, question. 7936 04:55:08,230 --> 04:55:08,240 » So, question. 7937 04:55:08,240 --> 04:55:09,910 >> I'm just trying to figure like 7938 04:55:09,910 --> 04:55:09,920 » I'm just trying to figure like 7939 04:55:09,920 --> 04:55:11,350 >> Yeah, sorry. Go ahead. 7940 04:55:11,350 --> 04:55:11,360 » Yeah, sorry. Go ahead. 7941 04:55:11,360 --> 04:55:13,670 >> I'm just brainstorming. Go ahead. 7942 04:55:13,670 --> 04:55:13,680 » I'm just brainstorming. Go ahead. 7943 04:55:13,680 --> 04:55:15,910 >> This is one of the problems I 7944 04:55:15,910 --> 04:55:15,920 » This is one of the problems I 7945 04:55:15,920 --> 04:55:18,070 >> I almost got t-boned right there the 7946 04:55:18,070 --> 04:55:18,080 » I almost got t-boned right there the 7947 04:55:18,080 --> 04:55:18,560 other day. 7948 04:55:18,560 --> 04:55:20,628 >> Frequently, especially this one being a 7949 04:55:20,628 --> 04:55:20,638 » Frequently, especially this one being a 7950 04:55:20,638 --> 04:55:22,798 straight turn and then everyone tries to 7951 04:55:22,798 --> 04:55:25,520 like merge together. Why are we keeping 7952 04:55:25,520 --> 04:55:27,120 this a straight lane if we have a 7953 04:55:27,120 --> 04:55:29,040 dedicated straight lane and we 7954 04:55:29,040 --> 04:55:30,718 bottleneck right here? You know what I'm 7955 04:55:30,718 --> 04:55:32,798 asking? 7956 04:55:32,798 --> 04:55:33,680 It's 7957 04:55:33,680 --> 04:55:35,670 >> so make that red only. 7958 04:55:35,670 --> 04:55:35,680 » so make that red only. 7959 04:55:35,680 --> 04:55:37,670 >> I think because they double stack when 7960 04:55:37,670 --> 04:55:37,680 » I think because they double stack when 7961 04:55:37,680 --> 04:55:39,040 that light's red. 7962 04:55:39,040 --> 04:55:42,230 >> Yeah. And then they try to 7963 04:55:42,230 --> 04:55:42,240 » Yeah. And then they try to 7964 04:55:42,240 --> 04:55:43,830 >> just to me it kind of just 7965 04:55:43,830 --> 04:55:43,840 » just to me it kind of just 7966 04:55:43,840 --> 04:55:45,510 >> just zippers in. 7967 04:55:45,510 --> 04:55:45,520 » just zippers in. 7968 04:55:45,520 --> 04:55:48,150 >> It's it's it's it's a pro. It's 7969 04:55:48,150 --> 04:55:48,160 » It's it's it's it's a pro. It's 7970 04:55:48,160 --> 04:55:50,080 problematic with the two lights being 7971 04:55:50,080 --> 04:55:50,958 that closed. 7972 04:55:50,958 --> 04:55:52,868 >> Will that area never be a four-lane road 7973 04:55:52,868 --> 04:55:52,878 » Will that area never be a four-lane road 7974 04:55:52,878 --> 04:55:55,200 until the bridge gets widened and so it 7975 04:55:55,200 --> 04:55:56,878 can match what's on the east side of the 7976 04:55:56,878 --> 04:56:01,200 bridge? Well, if we widened 156 7977 04:56:01,200 --> 04:56:02,638 talking about Westport, 7978 04:56:02,638 --> 04:56:05,750 >> I'm saying right there, you know, you're 7979 04:56:05,750 --> 04:56:05,760 » I'm saying right there, you know, you're 7980 04:56:05,760 --> 04:56:08,000 right here, your two lanes and your one 7981 04:56:08,000 --> 04:56:09,840 lane here. Will this ever be will this 7982 04:56:09,840 --> 04:56:11,440 never be a four lane road until the 7983 04:56:11,440 --> 04:56:13,520 bridge gets widened and then it'll cuz 7984 04:56:13,520 --> 04:56:15,840 on the side of the bridge 7985 04:56:15,840 --> 04:56:18,948 >> it's four lanes with a median, you know? 7986 04:56:18,948 --> 04:56:18,958 » it's four lanes with a median, you know? 7987 04:56:18,958 --> 04:56:20,638 So, that'd be nice if that would all 7988 04:56:20,638 --> 04:56:21,920 kind of 7989 04:56:21,920 --> 04:56:23,830 >> come all the way to 156 like that. Yeah, 7990 04:56:23,830 --> 04:56:23,840 » come all the way to 156 like that. Yeah, 7991 04:56:23,840 --> 04:56:26,160 it's the your limiting your limitation 7992 04:56:26,160 --> 04:56:27,280 is the bridge. 7993 04:56:27,280 --> 04:56:28,150 >> Okay, how about this? 7994 04:56:28,150 --> 04:56:28,160 » Okay, how about this? 7995 04:56:28,160 --> 04:56:29,990 >> Get that three lanes there. 7996 04:56:29,990 --> 04:56:30,000 » Get that three lanes there. 7997 04:56:30,000 --> 04:56:31,670 >> You make it where the right hand lane 7998 04:56:31,670 --> 04:56:31,680 » You make it where the right hand lane 7999 04:56:31,680 --> 04:56:35,040 can bypass the first light. 8000 04:56:35,040 --> 04:56:38,240 It has like a green arrow 8001 04:56:38,240 --> 04:56:39,840 except for when the schoolhouse road 8002 04:56:39,840 --> 04:56:41,920 left happens and then it just goes red 8003 04:56:41,920 --> 04:56:44,000 for a second and let Schoolhouse Road 8004 04:56:44,000 --> 04:56:46,080 turn left and then they can move into 8005 04:56:46,080 --> 04:56:48,000 the right lane and not have not have 8006 04:56:48,000 --> 04:56:50,400 traffic coming. And then except for the 8007 04:56:50,400 --> 04:56:52,878 one moment that that's going left, you 8008 04:56:52,878 --> 04:56:54,878 leave that green arrow straight on the 8009 04:56:54,878 --> 04:56:56,718 right hand lane and then you don't have 8010 04:56:56,718 --> 04:56:57,360 the conflict. 8011 04:56:57,360 --> 04:56:58,788 >> So you have the red light with the green 8012 04:56:58,788 --> 04:56:58,798 » So you have the red light with the green 8013 04:56:58,798 --> 04:57:00,400 arrow which indicates you don't have to 8014 04:57:00,400 --> 04:57:00,878 stop, 8015 04:57:00,878 --> 04:57:01,270 >> right? 8016 04:57:01,270 --> 04:57:01,280 » right? 8017 04:57:01,280 --> 04:57:03,910 >> And you have the green arrow disappear 8018 04:57:03,910 --> 04:57:03,920 » And you have the green arrow disappear 8019 04:57:03,920 --> 04:57:06,070 >> when Schoolhouse Road is turning left. 8020 04:57:06,070 --> 04:57:06,080 » when Schoolhouse Road is turning left. 8021 04:57:06,080 --> 04:57:07,510 >> I mean, yeah, that would probably 8022 04:57:07,510 --> 04:57:07,520 » I mean, yeah, that would probably 8023 04:57:07,520 --> 04:57:09,520 require some signal head modifications 8024 04:57:09,520 --> 04:57:11,840 and stuff, but we could we could look 8025 04:57:11,840 --> 04:57:12,400 into that. 8026 04:57:12,400 --> 04:57:13,910 >> But then the right hand lane can go 8027 04:57:13,910 --> 04:57:13,920 » But then the right hand lane can go 8028 04:57:13,920 --> 04:57:15,840 constantly except for when schoolhouse 8029 04:57:15,840 --> 04:57:17,280 turns. Chris, 8030 04:57:17,280 --> 04:57:19,030 >> I know there's a lot of ideas floating 8031 04:57:19,030 --> 04:57:19,040 » I know there's a lot of ideas floating 8032 04:57:19,040 --> 04:57:21,120 around here, but I need to bring us 8033 04:57:21,120 --> 04:57:23,200 back. This meeting is about budget, not 8034 04:57:23,200 --> 04:57:24,718 road design. Thank you. 8035 04:57:24,718 --> 04:57:25,350 >> I I 8036 04:57:25,350 --> 04:57:25,360 » I I 8037 04:57:25,360 --> 04:57:27,030 >> So, let's let's come back to the budget. 8038 04:57:27,030 --> 04:57:27,040 » So, let's let's come back to the budget. 8039 04:57:27,040 --> 04:57:28,310 >> Mayor, really quick, just a reminder 8040 04:57:28,310 --> 04:57:28,320 » Mayor, really quick, just a reminder 8041 04:57:28,320 --> 04:57:30,240 that we have like 13 minutes left with 8042 04:57:30,240 --> 04:57:32,878 Mr. Anderson. So, anything we need? 8043 04:57:32,878 --> 04:57:34,550 >> Yeah. And I can I can stay a few minutes 8044 04:57:34,550 --> 04:57:34,560 » Yeah. And I can I can stay a few minutes 8045 04:57:34,560 --> 04:57:35,840 longer if needed, but I think we're 8046 04:57:35,840 --> 04:57:36,560 getting pretty close here. 8047 04:57:36,560 --> 04:57:37,190 >> You got to focus. 8048 04:57:37,190 --> 04:57:37,200 » You got to focus. 8049 04:57:37,200 --> 04:57:39,830 >> Good. So, we can understood all the 8050 04:57:39,830 --> 04:57:39,840 » Good. So, we can understood all the 8051 04:57:39,840 --> 04:57:42,080 points here. If we can just get this 8052 04:57:42,080 --> 04:57:43,920 going and constructed, then we can talk 8053 04:57:43,920 --> 04:57:45,760 about and look into those other options. 8054 04:57:45,760 --> 04:57:47,200 I I understand. 8055 04:57:47,200 --> 04:57:48,390 >> It's in the budget, 8056 04:57:48,390 --> 04:57:48,400 » It's in the budget, 8057 04:57:48,400 --> 04:57:48,868 >> right? 8058 04:57:48,868 --> 04:57:48,878 » right? 8059 04:57:48,878 --> 04:57:50,390 >> Yeah. 8060 04:57:50,390 --> 04:57:50,400 » Yeah. 8061 04:57:50,400 --> 04:57:51,910 >> Do we need to add more money for what 8062 04:57:51,910 --> 04:57:51,920 » Do we need to add more money for what 8063 04:57:51,920 --> 04:57:53,200 Chris might be talking about putting a 8064 04:57:53,200 --> 04:57:55,120 median, put a concrete curve, do we need 8065 04:57:55,120 --> 04:57:56,718 to add more money for that or is that uh 8066 04:57:56,718 --> 04:57:57,200 we good? 8067 04:57:57,200 --> 04:57:58,708 >> I think let's just let's get it built 8068 04:57:58,708 --> 04:57:58,718 » I think let's just let's get it built 8069 04:57:58,718 --> 04:58:00,480 and then by the time that all gets 8070 04:58:00,480 --> 04:58:02,080 built, it'll we'll be already into the 8071 04:58:02,080 --> 04:58:03,440 next budget. 8072 04:58:03,440 --> 04:58:03,910 >> Okay. 8073 04:58:03,910 --> 04:58:03,920 » Okay. 8074 04:58:03,920 --> 04:58:05,590 >> Cuz the county guys can't do that work 8075 04:58:05,590 --> 04:58:05,600 » Cuz the county guys can't do that work 8076 04:58:05,600 --> 04:58:07,200 anyway. And that's who we've got right 8077 04:58:07,200 --> 04:58:12,160 now doing all this right here. Yes, sir. 8078 04:58:12,160 --> 04:58:13,830 >> Okay. Bluebound Road. We put a little 8079 04:58:13,830 --> 04:58:13,840 » Okay. Bluebound Road. We put a little 8080 04:58:13,840 --> 04:58:15,920 bit of money in there just in the off 8081 04:58:15,920 --> 04:58:18,718 chance that that bridge 8082 04:58:18,718 --> 04:58:19,350 >> gets funed. 8083 04:58:19,350 --> 04:58:19,360 » gets funed. 8084 04:58:19,360 --> 04:58:21,350 >> I do not have that in. 8085 04:58:21,350 --> 04:58:21,360 » I do not have that in. 8086 04:58:21,360 --> 04:58:24,070 >> Yeah. So, I've I've added it the 10,000. 8087 04:58:24,070 --> 04:58:24,080 » Yeah. So, I've I've added it the 10,000. 8088 04:58:24,080 --> 04:58:26,868 >> Yes, ma'am. Just I don't I don't I 8089 04:58:26,868 --> 04:58:26,878 » Yes, ma'am. Just I don't I don't I 8090 04:58:26,878 --> 04:58:28,160 haven't heard anything about that 8091 04:58:28,160 --> 04:58:29,840 project at all. The the 8092 04:58:29,840 --> 04:58:33,430 >> I haven't I called uh county not that 8093 04:58:33,430 --> 04:58:33,440 » I haven't I called uh county not that 8094 04:58:33,440 --> 04:58:35,280 long ago and they haven't gotten any 8095 04:58:35,280 --> 04:58:38,560 word. Uh, they probably won't know 8096 04:58:38,560 --> 04:58:40,240 anything 8097 04:58:40,240 --> 04:58:42,480 probably until November, December time 8098 04:58:42,480 --> 04:58:44,080 frame, 8099 04:58:44,080 --> 04:58:46,470 >> election time. 8100 04:58:46,470 --> 04:58:46,480 » election time. 8101 04:58:46,480 --> 04:59:03,590 >> Yes. $10,000. 8102 04:59:03,600 --> 04:59:05,120 And that would be one of those that we 8103 04:59:05,120 --> 04:59:08,400 would expect to be a reimbursement too 8104 04:59:08,400 --> 04:59:12,400 if the project becomes real. 8105 04:59:12,400 --> 04:59:16,400 Okay, roads. Everybody's good 8106 04:59:16,400 --> 04:59:18,240 till you see the bottom line. But I'll 8107 04:59:18,240 --> 04:59:21,120 be gone. So, 8108 04:59:21,120 --> 04:59:23,830 >> okay. 8109 04:59:23,830 --> 04:59:23,840 » okay. 8110 04:59:23,840 --> 04:59:26,560 your first 8111 04:59:26,560 --> 04:59:27,990 >> do we want to talk about that right now 8112 04:59:27,990 --> 04:59:28,000 » do we want to talk about that right now 8113 04:59:28,000 --> 04:59:29,680 before we go into facilities or just go 8114 04:59:29,680 --> 04:59:31,600 into facilities? 8115 04:59:31,600 --> 04:59:33,110 >> Excuse me. What's that? 8116 04:59:33,110 --> 04:59:33,120 » Excuse me. What's that? 8117 04:59:33,120 --> 04:59:35,430 >> She was asking me if if I would give my 8118 04:59:35,430 --> 04:59:35,440 » She was asking me if if I would give my 8119 04:59:35,440 --> 04:59:37,120 recommendation on the roadway 8120 04:59:37,120 --> 04:59:39,440 improvements as far as a priority list 8121 04:59:39,440 --> 04:59:42,080 before I leave and I asked if that 8122 04:59:42,080 --> 04:59:43,440 needed to happen now or if we want to 8123 04:59:43,440 --> 04:59:43,840 get 8124 04:59:43,840 --> 04:59:45,510 >> what we just covered. 8125 04:59:45,510 --> 04:59:45,520 » what we just covered. 8126 04:59:45,520 --> 04:59:46,070 >> Yes, sir. 8127 04:59:46,070 --> 04:59:46,080 » Yes, sir. 8128 04:59:46,080 --> 04:59:47,110 >> Just your top three. 8129 04:59:47,110 --> 04:59:47,120 » Just your top three. 8130 04:59:47,120 --> 04:59:47,830 >> Top three. 8131 04:59:47,830 --> 04:59:47,840 » Top three. 8132 04:59:47,840 --> 04:59:51,110 >> Okay. So, your uh one through 15 isn't a 8133 04:59:51,110 --> 04:59:51,120 » Okay. So, your uh one through 15 isn't a 8134 04:59:51,120 --> 04:59:55,190 priority. 8135 04:59:55,200 --> 04:59:58,080 I'm asking first let me ask that that's 8136 04:59:58,080 --> 05:00:01,920 you know 1 through 15 numerical rating 8137 05:00:01,920 --> 05:00:03,600 is that that's not priority 8138 05:00:03,600 --> 05:00:05,590 >> I mean that's 8139 05:00:05,590 --> 05:00:05,600 » I mean that's 8140 05:00:05,600 --> 05:00:07,040 not exactly 8141 05:00:07,040 --> 05:00:08,550 >> okay well go ahead and please give your 8142 05:00:08,550 --> 05:00:08,560 » okay well go ahead and please give your 8143 05:00:08,560 --> 05:00:09,520 priority 8144 05:00:09,520 --> 05:00:10,470 >> so let me make sure 8145 05:00:10,470 --> 05:00:10,480 » so let me make sure 8146 05:00:10,480 --> 05:00:13,110 >> I I would like to involve James Tucker 8147 05:00:13,110 --> 05:00:13,120 » I I would like to involve James Tucker 8148 05:00:13,120 --> 05:00:15,680 in that conversation too his is purely 8149 05:00:15,680 --> 05:00:18,080 from engineering 8150 05:00:18,080 --> 05:00:20,150 >> James Tucker has a viewpoint as well 8151 05:00:20,150 --> 05:00:20,160 » James Tucker has a viewpoint as well 8152 05:00:20,160 --> 05:00:21,590 >> James is going to be here he's just 8153 05:00:21,590 --> 05:00:21,600 » James is going to be here he's just 8154 05:00:21,600 --> 05:00:22,000 receing. 8155 05:00:22,000 --> 05:00:24,550 >> Is this the top three you'd cut first or 8156 05:00:24,550 --> 05:00:24,560 » Is this the top three you'd cut first or 8157 05:00:24,560 --> 05:00:25,840 the highest part? 8158 05:00:25,840 --> 05:00:28,310 >> Top three cut if you had to 8159 05:00:28,310 --> 05:00:28,320 » Top three cut if you had to 8160 05:00:28,320 --> 05:00:31,110 >> the the uh 8161 05:00:31,110 --> 05:00:31,120 » the the uh 8162 05:00:31,120 --> 05:00:31,440 um 8163 05:00:31,440 --> 05:00:32,948 >> or amounts if you'd rather do that. 8164 05:00:32,948 --> 05:00:32,958 » or amounts if you'd rather do that. 8165 05:00:32,958 --> 05:00:36,708 >> Oh my gosh. 8166 05:00:36,718 --> 05:00:38,000 » Okay. 8167 05:00:38,000 --> 05:00:40,230 >> I think the I think sliding the Hassel 8168 05:00:40,230 --> 05:00:40,240 » I think the I think sliding the Hassel 8169 05:00:40,240 --> 05:00:43,600 Park Street design makes sense. 8170 05:00:43,600 --> 05:00:46,230 >> I think the interotal phase two sliding 8171 05:00:46,230 --> 05:00:46,240 » I think the interotal phase two sliding 8172 05:00:46,240 --> 05:00:48,798 that out makes sense. 8173 05:00:48,798 --> 05:00:51,280 Um, 8174 05:00:51,280 --> 05:00:52,868 >> there's no phase two. Are you saying the 8175 05:00:52,868 --> 05:00:52,878 » there's no phase two. Are you saying the 8176 05:00:52,878 --> 05:00:55,440 phase one interotal? 8177 05:00:55,440 --> 05:00:57,030 >> Well, there was some discussion I 8178 05:00:57,030 --> 05:00:57,040 » Well, there was some discussion I 8179 05:00:57,040 --> 05:00:58,638 thought about potentially moving into 8180 05:00:58,638 --> 05:01:00,400 design on phase two and I don't 8181 05:01:00,400 --> 05:01:01,910 >> No, we didn't. We did not budget any for 8182 05:01:01,910 --> 05:01:01,920 » No, we didn't. We did not budget any for 8183 05:01:01,920 --> 05:01:03,760 it. It's just the 1.1 you have. So, 8184 05:01:03,760 --> 05:01:05,760 would you take some out of the 1.1? 8185 05:01:05,760 --> 05:01:07,430 >> No, because that's going to be necessary 8186 05:01:07,430 --> 05:01:07,440 » No, because that's going to be necessary 8187 05:01:07,440 --> 05:01:09,040 to build phase one if we get the 8188 05:01:09,040 --> 05:01:09,840 rideway. 8189 05:01:09,840 --> 05:01:12,550 >> Pick again. 8190 05:01:12,550 --> 05:01:12,560 » Pick again. 8191 05:01:12,560 --> 05:01:14,390 >> Uh, 8192 05:01:14,390 --> 05:01:14,400 » Uh, 8193 05:01:14,400 --> 05:01:18,240 the uh Careway improvements. I I 8194 05:01:18,240 --> 05:01:19,110 >> That's not on here. 8195 05:01:19,110 --> 05:01:19,120 » That's not on here. 8196 05:01:19,120 --> 05:01:20,310 >> I would slide those. 8197 05:01:20,310 --> 05:01:20,320 » I would slide those. 8198 05:01:20,320 --> 05:01:21,670 >> That's not on here. It's on. 8199 05:01:21,670 --> 05:01:21,680 » That's not on here. It's on. 8200 05:01:21,680 --> 05:01:23,990 >> That' be a fun 2020. 8201 05:01:23,990 --> 05:01:24,000 » That' be a fun 2020. 8202 05:01:24,000 --> 05:01:25,750 >> Pick again. [laughter] 8203 05:01:25,750 --> 05:01:25,760 » Pick again. [laughter] 8204 05:01:25,760 --> 05:01:28,390 >> Pick again. 8205 05:01:28,390 --> 05:01:28,400 » Pick again. 8206 05:01:28,400 --> 05:01:29,110 >> Um, 8207 05:01:29,110 --> 05:01:29,120 » Um, 8208 05:01:29,120 --> 05:01:38,788 >> pick again. 8209 05:01:38,798 --> 05:01:39,920 » I think the I think 8210 05:01:39,920 --> 05:01:40,788 >> I think that's our answer. 8211 05:01:40,788 --> 05:01:40,798 » I think that's our answer. 8212 05:01:40,798 --> 05:01:42,310 >> I think the top five are pretty 8213 05:01:42,310 --> 05:01:42,320 » I think the top five are pretty 8214 05:01:42,320 --> 05:01:44,080 important. 8215 05:01:44,080 --> 05:01:46,470 >> Okay. So really you think everything 8216 05:01:46,470 --> 05:01:46,480 » Okay. So really you think everything 8217 05:01:46,480 --> 05:01:48,958 except for SD8 really needs to stay. 8218 05:01:48,958 --> 05:01:54,868 Understood. 8219 05:01:54,878 --> 05:02:01,920 » Okay. 8220 05:02:01,920 --> 05:02:04,070 >> So that I get that right. You the top 8221 05:02:04,070 --> 05:02:04,080 » So that I get that right. You the top 8222 05:02:04,080 --> 05:02:06,958 five that you have now you said are the 8223 05:02:06,958 --> 05:02:08,000 top five. 8224 05:02:08,000 --> 05:02:08,788 >> Yes sir. 8225 05:02:08,788 --> 05:02:08,798 » Yes sir. 8226 05:02:08,798 --> 05:02:12,628 >> And for this for that 26 27 budget year. 8227 05:02:12,628 --> 05:02:12,638 » And for this for that 26 27 budget year. 8228 05:02:12,638 --> 05:02:13,190 >> Yes sir. 8229 05:02:13,190 --> 05:02:13,200 » Yes sir. 8230 05:02:13,200 --> 05:02:15,190 >> All right. 8231 05:02:15,190 --> 05:02:15,200 » All right. 8232 05:02:15,200 --> 05:02:19,760 Okay. Uh, facilities. Facilities is just 8233 05:02:19,760 --> 05:02:22,240 catchall. This is not intended to be an 8234 05:02:22,240 --> 05:02:23,760 all-inclusive. These are just things 8235 05:02:23,760 --> 05:02:27,840 that we've picked up um as being 8236 05:02:27,840 --> 05:02:30,258 potential projects or desired 8237 05:02:30,258 --> 05:02:32,160 [clears throat] projects over the years. 8238 05:02:32,160 --> 05:02:35,760 So, start with that. Um, 8239 05:02:35,760 --> 05:02:38,480 community park, that was the uh 8240 05:02:38,480 --> 05:02:40,958 underground service. So that's the 8241 05:02:40,958 --> 05:02:43,600 service service line or the service 8242 05:02:43,600 --> 05:02:48,400 upgrade and then the uh circuitry 8243 05:02:48,400 --> 05:02:52,000 I guess for Christmas and 8244 05:02:52,000 --> 05:02:54,480 uh food trucks and all the things right 8245 05:02:54,480 --> 05:02:56,320 around the 8246 05:02:56,320 --> 05:02:58,240 um 8247 05:02:58,240 --> 05:02:59,840 around the pavilion area. I guess it 8248 05:02:59,840 --> 05:03:03,430 would be 8249 05:03:03,440 --> 05:03:04,958 » uh 8250 05:03:04,958 --> 05:03:08,000 well we had there was 210 but that was 8251 05:03:08,000 --> 05:03:09,920 thrown out I guess for next year. I I 8252 05:03:09,920 --> 05:03:12,240 mean it's a lot of these things it's 8253 05:03:12,240 --> 05:03:14,320 it's what's your pleasure as far as when 8254 05:03:14,320 --> 05:03:15,440 do you guys want to get these 8255 05:03:15,440 --> 05:03:18,000 accomplished 8256 05:03:18,000 --> 05:03:19,600 that was kind of those that was one of 8257 05:03:19,600 --> 05:03:20,320 those 8258 05:03:20,320 --> 05:03:22,948 >> is it in your budget already? 8259 05:03:22,948 --> 05:03:22,958 » is it in your budget already? 8260 05:03:22,958 --> 05:03:24,390 >> Sorry. 8261 05:03:24,390 --> 05:03:24,400 » Sorry. 8262 05:03:24,400 --> 05:03:26,390 >> So I don't think so. The uh the lighting 8263 05:03:26,390 --> 05:03:26,400 » So I don't think so. The uh the lighting 8264 05:03:26,400 --> 05:03:28,320 stuff for the park was in a threephase 8265 05:03:28,320 --> 05:03:29,920 approach to it was an upgrade to the 8266 05:03:29,920 --> 05:03:32,798 service that was a uh in around the 8267 05:03:32,798 --> 05:03:35,040 inner circle for power and then trail 8268 05:03:35,040 --> 05:03:36,638 lighting. That was all three versions of 8269 05:03:36,638 --> 05:03:39,360 it and I don't see it in here. Yeah. On 8270 05:03:39,360 --> 05:03:41,600 the on Mr. Anderson's, it's not till 8271 05:03:41,600 --> 05:03:44,240 next year that he's got 210 in there. 8272 05:03:44,240 --> 05:03:46,230 >> It's It's in fun 15. 8273 05:03:46,230 --> 05:03:46,240 » It's It's in fun 15. 8274 05:03:46,240 --> 05:03:48,390 >> It's in fun. 8275 05:03:48,390 --> 05:03:48,400 » It's in fun. 8276 05:03:48,400 --> 05:03:51,360 Yeah. For 210,000. 8277 05:03:51,360 --> 05:03:53,430 >> Yeah. 210. UG electric lighting and 8278 05:03:53,430 --> 05:03:53,440 » Yeah. 210. UG electric lighting and 8279 05:03:53,440 --> 05:03:55,120 receptacles. Yeah. 8280 05:03:55,120 --> 05:03:56,550 >> Page 268. 8281 05:03:56,550 --> 05:03:56,560 » Page 268. 8282 05:03:56,560 --> 05:03:59,190 >> But the 125 for community park fencing, 8283 05:03:59,190 --> 05:03:59,200 » But the 125 for community park fencing, 8284 05:03:59,200 --> 05:04:00,958 I don't believe, is anywhere. So, 8285 05:04:00,958 --> 05:04:03,110 >> Mr. Anderson, you can move that 210 up 8286 05:04:03,110 --> 05:04:03,120 » Mr. Anderson, you can move that 210 up 8287 05:04:03,120 --> 05:04:06,480 to this year there on your sheet. 8288 05:04:06,480 --> 05:04:08,560 Well, maybe. 8289 05:04:08,560 --> 05:04:09,910 >> No, it's not part of the general fund. 8290 05:04:09,910 --> 05:04:09,920 » No, it's not part of the general fund. 8291 05:04:09,920 --> 05:04:11,120 It's part of the fund 15. 8292 05:04:11,120 --> 05:04:12,788 >> Oh, is it? Okay. So, we move that 8293 05:04:12,788 --> 05:04:12,798 » Oh, is it? Okay. So, we move that 8294 05:04:12,798 --> 05:04:13,360 forward. 8295 05:04:13,360 --> 05:04:13,590 >> Yeah. 8296 05:04:13,590 --> 05:04:13,600 » Yeah. 8297 05:04:13,600 --> 05:04:17,830 >> And that's on 268. 8298 05:04:17,840 --> 05:04:20,160 » 265. 8299 05:04:20,160 --> 05:04:21,270 >> Yeah, it's on both. 8300 05:04:21,270 --> 05:04:21,280 » Yeah, it's on both. 8301 05:04:21,280 --> 05:04:23,430 >> 265. So, can 8302 05:04:23,430 --> 05:04:23,440 » 265. So, can 8303 05:04:23,440 --> 05:04:25,030 >> can you also put that note right there 8304 05:04:25,030 --> 05:04:25,040 » can you also put that note right there 8305 05:04:25,040 --> 05:04:27,440 for F1? 8306 05:04:27,440 --> 05:04:31,350 >> I think it's 8307 05:04:31,360 --> 05:04:35,590 F1B. 8308 05:04:35,600 --> 05:04:38,798 Oh yeah, F1A. 8309 05:04:38,798 --> 05:04:40,958 And then where is F1B located? You guys 8310 05:04:40,958 --> 05:04:42,400 were just talking about that one, too. 8311 05:04:42,400 --> 05:04:43,030 >> You said it's not 8312 05:04:43,030 --> 05:04:43,040 » You said it's not 8313 05:04:43,040 --> 05:04:44,310 >> She said it's not in there. 8314 05:04:44,310 --> 05:04:44,320 » She said it's not in there. 8315 05:04:44,320 --> 05:04:46,708 >> Okay. 8316 05:04:46,708 --> 05:04:46,718 » Okay. 8317 05:04:46,718 --> 05:04:48,310 >> Could we add it to fun 15? 8318 05:04:48,310 --> 05:04:48,320 » Could we add it to fun 15? 8319 05:04:48,320 --> 05:04:50,070 >> How critical is the fencing, though? 8320 05:04:50,070 --> 05:04:50,080 » How critical is the fencing, though? 8321 05:04:50,080 --> 05:04:51,750 >> Is that the This is This is a question I 8322 05:04:51,750 --> 05:04:51,760 » Is that the This is This is a question I 8323 05:04:51,760 --> 05:04:53,360 asked the other day. It's not It's not 8324 05:04:53,360 --> 05:04:54,798 new fencing. It's all the replacement 8325 05:04:54,798 --> 05:04:55,680 fencing. 8326 05:04:55,680 --> 05:04:58,390 >> So, the fencing project here is the I 8327 05:04:58,390 --> 05:04:58,400 » So, the fencing project here is the I 8328 05:04:58,400 --> 05:04:59,840 guess the kind of the north property 8329 05:04:59,840 --> 05:05:02,240 line there. And as far as we haven't had 8330 05:05:02,240 --> 05:05:04,000 it ever, I just I think it's important 8331 05:05:04,000 --> 05:05:05,920 that we kind of define the edge of the 8332 05:05:05,920 --> 05:05:07,040 park there. 8333 05:05:07,040 --> 05:05:08,070 >> Away from the church. 8334 05:05:08,070 --> 05:05:08,080 » Away from the church. 8335 05:05:08,080 --> 05:05:08,310 >> Yeah. 8336 05:05:08,310 --> 05:05:08,320 » Yeah. 8337 05:05:08,320 --> 05:05:09,590 >> Yeah. Church property. 8338 05:05:09,590 --> 05:05:09,600 » Yeah. Church property. 8339 05:05:09,600 --> 05:05:12,230 >> People are kind of trespassing on other 8340 05:05:12,230 --> 05:05:12,240 » People are kind of trespassing on other 8341 05:05:12,240 --> 05:05:14,798 property quite often and we like to kind 8342 05:05:14,798 --> 05:05:16,480 of define that so they understand, you 8343 05:05:16,480 --> 05:05:18,320 know, where the park property begins and 8344 05:05:18,320 --> 05:05:19,760 ends and keeps them off of church 8345 05:05:19,760 --> 05:05:20,240 property. 8346 05:05:20,240 --> 05:05:21,910 >> Have you talked to the church? 8347 05:05:21,910 --> 05:05:21,920 » Have you talked to the church? 8348 05:05:21,920 --> 05:05:23,430 >> Not directly about and they have never 8349 05:05:23,430 --> 05:05:23,440 » Not directly about and they have never 8350 05:05:23,440 --> 05:05:25,840 complained either. This is just I see 8351 05:05:25,840 --> 05:05:26,320 too often. 8352 05:05:26,320 --> 05:05:27,910 >> Yeah, a few times. curious if they would 8353 05:05:27,910 --> 05:05:27,920 » Yeah, a few times. curious if they would 8354 05:05:27,920 --> 05:05:29,360 be they would really like this as well 8355 05:05:29,360 --> 05:05:30,878 or if they would be like no we like that 8356 05:05:30,878 --> 05:05:32,480 it's open and I don't know 8357 05:05:32,480 --> 05:05:34,070 >> I have not reached out to the church for 8358 05:05:34,070 --> 05:05:34,080 » I have not reached out to the church for 8359 05:05:34,080 --> 05:05:36,958 it like I said we haven't had a lot of 8360 05:05:36,958 --> 05:05:39,200 interaction there positive or negative I 8361 05:05:39,200 --> 05:05:42,000 just often see people utilizing the park 8362 05:05:42,000 --> 05:05:45,120 and crossing over their property I just 8363 05:05:45,120 --> 05:05:45,830 >> think it made sense 8364 05:05:45,830 --> 05:05:45,840 » think it made sense 8365 05:05:45,840 --> 05:05:47,750 >> destroyed what you're talking I have 8366 05:05:47,750 --> 05:05:47,760 » destroyed what you're talking I have 8367 05:05:47,760 --> 05:05:51,360 never seen anybody coming 8368 05:05:51,360 --> 05:05:54,718 from our park driving to the church I've 8369 05:05:54,718 --> 05:05:55,680 never seen it 8370 05:05:55,680 --> 05:05:57,990 >> so it's more Are there anybody from the 8371 05:05:57,990 --> 05:05:58,000 » so it's more Are there anybody from the 8372 05:05:58,000 --> 05:06:00,560 church driving into our park? 8373 05:06:00,560 --> 05:06:02,708 >> Spec specifically during events. People 8374 05:06:02,708 --> 05:06:02,718 » Spec specifically during events. People 8375 05:06:02,718 --> 05:06:04,080 drive straight through the parking lot 8376 05:06:04,080 --> 05:06:07,040 of the church and into the park in that 8377 05:06:07,040 --> 05:06:08,560 area. They park all along where that 8378 05:06:08,560 --> 05:06:10,718 cross is and they assume it's open 8379 05:06:10,718 --> 05:06:12,878 property. They also I mean they just 8380 05:06:12,878 --> 05:06:15,760 park in that as an open field. And so 8381 05:06:15,760 --> 05:06:17,360 that is what we're trying to keep from. 8382 05:06:17,360 --> 05:06:19,920 Also, it appears that we own more than 8383 05:06:19,920 --> 05:06:21,840 we do there just because the way that 8384 05:06:21,840 --> 05:06:23,840 line is that you would assume it's a 8385 05:06:23,840 --> 05:06:26,958 straighter line and uh even city 8386 05:06:26,958 --> 05:06:28,718 activities, we accidentally blur that 8387 05:06:28,718 --> 05:06:30,878 line occasionally because we forget how 8388 05:06:30,878 --> 05:06:33,200 close that really is. So that 8389 05:06:33,200 --> 05:06:37,670 >> so that only occurs at these 8390 05:06:37,670 --> 05:06:37,680 » so that only occurs at these 8391 05:06:37,680 --> 05:06:39,120 large events that we hold 8392 05:06:39,120 --> 05:06:41,510 >> or Sunday night volleyball Sunday 8393 05:06:41,510 --> 05:06:41,520 » or Sunday night volleyball Sunday 8394 05:06:41,520 --> 05:06:44,320 volleyball occurs all the time. That's 8395 05:06:44,320 --> 05:06:45,270 >> I didn't realize we had that much 8396 05:06:45,270 --> 05:06:45,280 » I didn't realize we had that much 8397 05:06:45,280 --> 05:06:46,878 property. That's awesome. But that's 8398 05:06:46,878 --> 05:06:47,600 ours 8399 05:06:47,600 --> 05:06:49,430 >> on national night out like the 4th of 8400 05:06:49,430 --> 05:06:49,440 » on national night out like the 4th of 8401 05:06:49,440 --> 05:06:51,360 July or like a big event 8402 05:06:51,360 --> 05:06:52,948 >> around right there where that is. 8403 05:06:52,948 --> 05:06:52,958 » around right there where that is. 8404 05:06:52,958 --> 05:06:55,280 There'll be people parked all up north 8405 05:06:55,280 --> 05:06:58,080 of that new fence all up in there and 8406 05:06:58,080 --> 05:06:59,280 there's people parked on both sides of 8407 05:06:59,280 --> 05:07:01,120 the road and up in there. So that's 8408 05:07:01,120 --> 05:07:02,958 reason why we're uh you know wanted to 8409 05:07:02,958 --> 05:07:04,080 put that there. 8410 05:07:04,080 --> 05:07:06,230 >> Park cars for the for volleyball. They 8411 05:07:06,230 --> 05:07:06,240 » Park cars for the for volleyball. They 8412 05:07:06,240 --> 05:07:08,240 use the headlights for it. So they 8413 05:07:08,240 --> 05:07:11,280 access the park using this as an as 8414 05:07:11,280 --> 05:07:12,798 entrance. We had this blocked off. It 8415 05:07:12,798 --> 05:07:14,000 would keep people from driving into 8416 05:07:14,000 --> 05:07:15,120 places they weren't supposed to. 8417 05:07:15,120 --> 05:07:17,670 >> So you would take fence across the 8418 05:07:17,670 --> 05:07:17,680 » So you would take fence across the 8419 05:07:17,680 --> 05:07:20,958 property and up to the street 8420 05:07:20,958 --> 05:07:22,868 >> and you would stop at the street. 8421 05:07:22,868 --> 05:07:22,878 » and you would stop at the street. 8422 05:07:22,878 --> 05:07:23,350 >> Correct. 8423 05:07:23,350 --> 05:07:23,360 » Correct. 8424 05:07:23,360 --> 05:07:24,070 >> Yes. 8425 05:07:24,070 --> 05:07:24,080 » Yes. 8426 05:07:24,080 --> 05:07:25,830 >> What's that going to stop? That's not 8427 05:07:25,830 --> 05:07:25,840 » What's that going to stop? That's not 8428 05:07:25,840 --> 05:07:27,920 going to stop any of that. 8429 05:07:27,920 --> 05:07:29,430 >> I would think it would. 8430 05:07:29,430 --> 05:07:29,440 » I would think it would. 8431 05:07:29,440 --> 05:07:30,550 >> How does it stop? 8432 05:07:30,550 --> 05:07:30,560 » How does it stop? 8433 05:07:30,560 --> 05:07:32,390 >> They can't drive through the fence. 8434 05:07:32,390 --> 05:07:32,400 » They can't drive through the fence. 8435 05:07:32,400 --> 05:07:33,830 >> They can't drive through the fence, but 8436 05:07:33,830 --> 05:07:33,840 » They can't drive through the fence, but 8437 05:07:33,840 --> 05:07:36,320 they can still drive up into that part. 8438 05:07:36,320 --> 05:07:38,160 I mean, to the church property and point 8439 05:07:38,160 --> 05:07:40,240 their lights at the sand body. Well, I 8440 05:07:40,240 --> 05:07:43,520 think I think they can also park pull up 8441 05:07:43,520 --> 05:07:45,600 into on this city [clears throat] side 8442 05:07:45,600 --> 05:07:47,920 of the fence and park in that little 8443 05:07:47,920 --> 05:07:49,920 triangle area and point their headlights 8444 05:07:49,920 --> 05:07:51,200 on the sand volleyball. 8445 05:07:51,200 --> 05:07:51,990 >> Well, there's a drain. 8446 05:07:51,990 --> 05:07:52,000 » Well, there's a drain. 8447 05:07:52,000 --> 05:07:54,708 >> So, my question is a big 8448 05:07:54,708 --> 05:07:54,718 » So, my question is a big 8449 05:07:54,718 --> 05:07:57,110 >> I don't see that the design doesn't stop 8450 05:07:57,110 --> 05:07:57,120 » I don't see that the design doesn't stop 8451 05:07:57,120 --> 05:07:58,000 that. 8452 05:07:58,000 --> 05:07:58,868 >> There's a big drain. 8453 05:07:58,868 --> 05:07:58,878 » There's a big drain. 8454 05:07:58,878 --> 05:08:00,868 >> It forces someone to intentionally make 8455 05:08:00,868 --> 05:08:00,878 » It forces someone to intentionally make 8456 05:08:00,878 --> 05:08:03,200 the decision to leave the the park 8457 05:08:03,200 --> 05:08:04,798 property and go onto the church 8458 05:08:04,798 --> 05:08:06,160 property. Right now, there could be 8459 05:08:06,160 --> 05:08:08,400 confusion. A fence really clears up that 8460 05:08:08,400 --> 05:08:10,560 confusion. Don't cross this line. 8461 05:08:10,560 --> 05:08:11,910 >> James, 8462 05:08:11,910 --> 05:08:11,920 » James, 8463 05:08:11,920 --> 05:08:13,830 >> what? So, currently, right now, there's 8464 05:08:13,830 --> 05:08:13,840 » what? So, currently, right now, there's 8465 05:08:13,840 --> 05:08:15,840 no lights on the volleyball court. 8466 05:08:15,840 --> 05:08:18,390 >> There are two lights that are solar ped. 8467 05:08:18,390 --> 05:08:18,400 » There are two lights that are solar ped. 8468 05:08:18,400 --> 05:08:20,320 Most of those lights are beyond their 8469 05:08:20,320 --> 05:08:22,718 lifespan of starting to fail. And the 8470 05:08:22,718 --> 05:08:25,520 original cost to those is the same cost, 8471 05:08:25,520 --> 05:08:27,680 like there's not a maintenance of it. 8472 05:08:27,680 --> 05:08:30,160 You either reby it all again at roughly 8473 05:08:30,160 --> 05:08:32,000 $1,000 a light. So, we haven't done any 8474 05:08:32,000 --> 05:08:33,760 maintenance. The long-term plan, which 8475 05:08:33,760 --> 05:08:35,520 is the lighting and the plugs and the 8476 05:08:35,520 --> 05:08:39,600 power, is to address that. Uh, but yes, 8477 05:08:39,600 --> 05:08:41,520 there is two solar power lights. I'm not 8478 05:08:41,520 --> 05:08:43,040 sure if they're currently working, but 8479 05:08:43,040 --> 05:08:44,638 chances are if they are, they're not 8480 05:08:44,638 --> 05:08:46,240 long lived. So, 8481 05:08:46,240 --> 05:08:47,910 >> would it be better to would it be better 8482 05:08:47,910 --> 05:08:47,920 » would it be better to would it be better 8483 05:08:47,920 --> 05:08:50,160 to get some decent lights there now and 8484 05:08:50,160 --> 05:08:52,320 to not put the fence or do we'd rather 8485 05:08:52,320 --> 05:08:54,000 put the fence and not do the lights? 8486 05:08:54,000 --> 05:08:57,030 >> I mean, I think the fence is a is is 8487 05:08:57,030 --> 05:08:57,040 » I mean, I think the fence is a is is 8488 05:08:57,040 --> 05:08:59,040 good to have regardless of the light 8489 05:08:59,040 --> 05:09:00,560 need. I think people would also like to 8490 05:09:00,560 --> 05:09:02,160 have lights for the volleyball. 8491 05:09:02,160 --> 05:09:05,110 >> Yes. Uh, I just think having a way to to 8492 05:09:05,110 --> 05:09:05,120 » Yes. Uh, I just think having a way to to 8493 05:09:05,120 --> 05:09:07,200 define our property so that there is 8494 05:09:07,200 --> 05:09:09,840 nobody in unintentionally I you can't 8495 05:09:09,840 --> 05:09:11,600 stop if people intentionally trespass, 8496 05:09:11,600 --> 05:09:14,320 but we just feel like it it makes sense 8497 05:09:14,320 --> 05:09:17,360 to to defi define that the same way we 8498 05:09:17,360 --> 05:09:18,718 did on 156. 8499 05:09:18,718 --> 05:09:20,628 >> And I I think a conversation with the 8500 05:09:20,628 --> 05:09:20,638 » And I I think a conversation with the 8501 05:09:20,638 --> 05:09:23,680 with the church might be a first step. I 8502 05:09:23,680 --> 05:09:25,120 know sometimes in the past they've had 8503 05:09:25,120 --> 05:09:26,878 people park there for events and charged 8504 05:09:26,878 --> 05:09:29,360 or did volunteer and then I don't know 8505 05:09:29,360 --> 05:09:32,160 just to see what they had to say. But I 8506 05:09:32,160 --> 05:09:34,160 like the fence 156. I think it does 8507 05:09:34,160 --> 05:09:35,840 designate that area. It looks really 8508 05:09:35,840 --> 05:09:36,160 nice. 8509 05:09:36,160 --> 05:09:37,430 >> And we were having lots of people that 8510 05:09:37,430 --> 05:09:37,440 » And we were having lots of people that 8511 05:09:37,440 --> 05:09:39,120 would drive in there and park on the 8512 05:09:39,120 --> 05:09:40,958 weekends and you can't really control 8513 05:09:40,958 --> 05:09:43,360 access and what they're doing. So that's 8514 05:09:43,360 --> 05:09:45,520 that was our entire intention here. And 8515 05:09:45,520 --> 05:09:48,240 specifically, this is never where the 8516 05:09:48,240 --> 05:09:50,400 average person thinks our property line 8517 05:09:50,400 --> 05:09:52,638 is. So I think they unintentionally 8518 05:09:52,638 --> 05:09:54,878 parked there. The across the street that 8519 05:09:54,878 --> 05:09:56,560 parking lot that's there where the 8520 05:09:56,560 --> 05:09:58,320 Sweeny's property is, people park there 8521 05:09:58,320 --> 05:10:00,240 assuming it is part of the park. Yes. 8522 05:10:00,240 --> 05:10:00,400 Yes. 8523 05:10:00,400 --> 05:10:01,830 >> You know, and we're not we can't really 8524 05:10:01,830 --> 05:10:01,840 » You know, and we're not we can't really 8525 05:10:01,840 --> 05:10:03,600 police everything. I just know people 8526 05:10:03,600 --> 05:10:05,360 just think a lot of this area is city 8527 05:10:05,360 --> 05:10:07,520 park and we wanted to define that. 8528 05:10:07,520 --> 05:10:09,830 >> In the meantime, can we just call 811, 8529 05:10:09,830 --> 05:10:09,840 » In the meantime, can we just call 811, 8530 05:10:09,840 --> 05:10:11,680 slam some stakes in the ground, and put 8531 05:10:11,680 --> 05:10:14,000 up some like caution tape at least for 8532 05:10:14,000 --> 05:10:16,638 the larger events? 8533 05:10:16,638 --> 05:10:18,948 >> We a lot of times we do put up cones and 8534 05:10:18,948 --> 05:10:18,958 » We a lot of times we do put up cones and 8535 05:10:18,958 --> 05:10:21,760 things like that. Uh we can try to do 8536 05:10:21,760 --> 05:10:23,840 something like that. 8537 05:10:23,840 --> 05:10:27,120 I know in advance I mean we have checked 8538 05:10:27,120 --> 05:10:29,280 with that church if we can let people 8539 05:10:29,280 --> 05:10:32,798 park over there. They said fine 8540 05:10:32,798 --> 05:10:35,670 >> not an issue with them. No that's the 8541 05:10:35,670 --> 05:10:35,680 » not an issue with them. No that's the 8542 05:10:35,680 --> 05:10:38,000 parking. 8543 05:10:38,000 --> 05:10:39,760 No I can do that. 8544 05:10:39,760 --> 05:10:42,230 >> So yeah it is a very important talk to 8545 05:10:42,230 --> 05:10:42,240 » So yeah it is a very important talk to 8546 05:10:42,240 --> 05:10:44,000 that church. You know they might not 8547 05:10:44,000 --> 05:10:44,638 want that. 8548 05:10:44,638 --> 05:10:46,390 >> So I like the open. 8549 05:10:46,390 --> 05:10:46,400 » So I like the open. 8550 05:10:46,400 --> 05:10:50,628 >> So the 125,000 is what is the cost 8551 05:10:50,628 --> 05:10:50,638 » So the 125,000 is what is the cost 8552 05:10:50,638 --> 05:10:54,400 estimate for that? acquire the property. 8553 05:10:54,400 --> 05:10:58,070 >> That's to acquire the property. And 8554 05:10:58,070 --> 05:10:58,080 » That's to acquire the property. And 8555 05:10:58,080 --> 05:11:02,868 >> so 8556 05:11:02,878 --> 05:11:04,240 if you buy the property, if you don't 8557 05:11:04,240 --> 05:11:05,600 buy the property, you just bring the 8558 05:11:05,600 --> 05:11:06,400 fence down. 8559 05:11:06,400 --> 05:11:06,868 >> Yeah. 8560 05:11:06,868 --> 05:11:06,878 » Yeah. 8561 05:11:06,878 --> 05:11:07,830 >> To follow the Okay. 8562 05:11:07,830 --> 05:11:07,840 » To follow the Okay. 8563 05:11:07,840 --> 05:11:10,150 >> That lower the very lower corner is the 8564 05:11:10,150 --> 05:11:10,160 » That lower the very lower corner is the 8565 05:11:10,160 --> 05:11:11,920 actual property line now. 8566 05:11:11,920 --> 05:11:13,510 >> And we wanted to encompass the drainage 8567 05:11:13,510 --> 05:11:13,520 » And we wanted to encompass the drainage 8568 05:11:13,520 --> 05:11:14,400 structure. 8569 05:11:14,400 --> 05:11:18,550 >> Yeah. 8570 05:11:18,560 --> 05:11:29,430 » See how that's kind of weird. 8571 05:11:29,440 --> 05:11:31,280 Um, so we have to decide whether we want 8572 05:11:31,280 --> 05:11:32,718 to put that in the budget, we want to 8573 05:11:32,718 --> 05:11:34,320 leave it out and push back a year, we 8574 05:11:34,320 --> 05:11:36,240 want to put it in fund 15, we want to 8575 05:11:36,240 --> 05:11:37,680 put in general. What are our options 8576 05:11:37,680 --> 05:11:40,160 here? Well, um I'm just going to point 8577 05:11:40,160 --> 05:11:43,360 out on page 265 8578 05:11:43,360 --> 05:11:46,798 for fund 15, um when we talked about 8579 05:11:46,798 --> 05:11:50,080 putting in the 210, I recommended that 8580 05:11:50,080 --> 05:11:52,320 we wait to see how our revenues come in 8581 05:11:52,320 --> 05:11:54,000 because if you'll see the beginning 8582 05:11:54,000 --> 05:11:58,160 balance in that fund is only 72,832. 8583 05:11:58,160 --> 05:12:00,560 So, um 8584 05:12:00,560 --> 05:12:02,878 we don't have the money projected for 8585 05:12:02,878 --> 05:12:04,560 this pro for this project you're 8586 05:12:04,560 --> 05:12:07,040 discussing now to come out of fund 15. 8587 05:12:07,040 --> 05:12:08,560 So, it would need to come out of the 8588 05:12:08,560 --> 05:12:11,040 general fund or 8589 05:12:11,040 --> 05:12:15,760 be a wait and see. Um, in fund 15, 8590 05:12:15,760 --> 05:12:17,190 >> it could be another one of those 8591 05:12:17,190 --> 05:12:17,200 » it could be another one of those 8592 05:12:17,200 --> 05:12:18,958 projects. You go ahead and include it 8593 05:12:18,958 --> 05:12:21,120 now and at the end of the day determine 8594 05:12:21,120 --> 05:12:23,680 we've got to cut it or not. 8595 05:12:23,680 --> 05:12:25,270 >> I don't think it's worth putting in the 8596 05:12:25,270 --> 05:12:25,280 » I don't think it's worth putting in the 8597 05:12:25,280 --> 05:12:26,718 general fund at this moment. 8598 05:12:26,718 --> 05:12:27,590 >> I agree. 8599 05:12:27,590 --> 05:12:27,600 » I agree. 8600 05:12:27,600 --> 05:12:30,310 >> Sorry. 8601 05:12:30,310 --> 05:12:30,320 » Sorry. 8602 05:12:30,320 --> 05:12:31,840 Don't you agree? 8603 05:12:31,840 --> 05:12:33,990 >> She agreed. The the the men haven't. 8604 05:12:33,990 --> 05:12:34,000 » She agreed. The the the men haven't. 8605 05:12:34,000 --> 05:12:35,920 that this maybe needs to be one like 8606 05:12:35,920 --> 05:12:36,878 next year. 8607 05:12:36,878 --> 05:12:38,948 >> It's something to keep it on. 8608 05:12:38,948 --> 05:12:38,958 » It's something to keep it on. 8609 05:12:38,958 --> 05:12:40,708 >> I Chris, gentlemen, what do y'all think? 8610 05:12:40,708 --> 05:12:40,718 » I Chris, gentlemen, what do y'all think? 8611 05:12:40,718 --> 05:12:42,230 >> I would not put in the budget this year. 8612 05:12:42,230 --> 05:12:42,240 » I would not put in the budget this year. 8613 05:12:42,240 --> 05:12:42,708 >> Okay, 8614 05:12:42,708 --> 05:12:42,718 » Okay, 8615 05:12:42,718 --> 05:12:44,788 >> James, the the money that you have in 8616 05:12:44,788 --> 05:12:44,798 » James, the the money that you have in 8617 05:12:44,798 --> 05:12:46,400 there for the electrical, does that 8618 05:12:46,400 --> 05:12:48,718 include lights for the volleyball court? 8619 05:12:48,718 --> 05:12:49,590 >> It did not. 8620 05:12:49,590 --> 05:12:49,600 » It did not. 8621 05:12:49,600 --> 05:12:52,070 >> Did not. Okay. Thank you. 8622 05:12:52,070 --> 05:12:52,080 » Did not. Okay. Thank you. 8623 05:12:52,080 --> 05:12:53,430 >> So, that's something that the parks 8624 05:12:53,430 --> 05:12:53,440 » So, that's something that the parks 8625 05:12:53,440 --> 05:12:55,280 board could be directed to. Yep. 8626 05:12:55,280 --> 05:12:56,150 >> Put on the 8627 05:12:56,150 --> 05:12:56,160 » Put on the 8628 05:12:56,160 --> 05:12:57,030 >> I'm going to try to go through the 8629 05:12:57,030 --> 05:12:57,040 » I'm going to try to go through the 8630 05:12:57,040 --> 05:12:58,958 correct process. I want you to take this 8631 05:12:58,958 --> 05:13:01,920 120, add it to the lighting project, 8632 05:13:01,920 --> 05:13:04,798 include lights for the volleyball court. 8633 05:13:04,798 --> 05:13:05,990 >> We're not going to do we did last year. 8634 05:13:05,990 --> 05:13:06,000 » We're not going to do we did last year. 8635 05:13:06,000 --> 05:13:07,360 We're going to give to the parks board 8636 05:13:07,360 --> 05:13:09,360 and not do it in the budget workshop and 8637 05:13:09,360 --> 05:13:12,400 then tell them we're doing a fall zone. 8638 05:13:12,400 --> 05:13:13,840 We're doing a new playground. We're 8639 05:13:13,840 --> 05:13:14,160 doing 8640 05:13:14,160 --> 05:13:15,190 >> put in another volleyball court. 8641 05:13:15,190 --> 05:13:15,200 » put in another volleyball court. 8642 05:13:15,200 --> 05:13:16,708 >> But this can be so this a this is a 8643 05:13:16,708 --> 05:13:16,718 » But this can be so this a this is a 8644 05:13:16,718 --> 05:13:18,798 public works not really the not really 8645 05:13:18,798 --> 05:13:20,480 the public this is a public works 8646 05:13:20,480 --> 05:13:21,680 lighting plan 8647 05:13:21,680 --> 05:13:23,670 >> in the in the in the park in Ha 8648 05:13:23,670 --> 05:13:23,680 » in the in the in the park in Ha 8649 05:13:23,680 --> 05:13:25,200 Community Park. So the parks board needs 8650 05:13:25,200 --> 05:13:27,040 to be included in that. Can we keep 8651 05:13:27,040 --> 05:13:28,638 going on facility so he can go? 8652 05:13:28,638 --> 05:13:30,310 >> Yes. 8653 05:13:30,310 --> 05:13:30,320 » Yes. 8654 05:13:30,320 --> 05:13:33,830 >> Project. Oh, wait. Where's two? 8655 05:13:33,830 --> 05:13:33,840 » Project. Oh, wait. Where's two? 8656 05:13:33,840 --> 05:13:34,230 >> Yes. 8657 05:13:34,230 --> 05:13:34,240 » Yes. 8658 05:13:34,240 --> 05:13:36,070 >> Do you have more for us to go through? 8659 05:13:36,070 --> 05:13:36,080 » Do you have more for us to go through? 8660 05:13:36,080 --> 05:13:37,750 >> So, you're taking out the 120 for the 8661 05:13:37,750 --> 05:13:37,760 » So, you're taking out the 120 for the 8662 05:13:37,760 --> 05:13:38,160 fence. 8663 05:13:38,160 --> 05:13:39,190 >> We're moving it to 8664 05:13:39,190 --> 05:13:39,200 » We're moving it to 8665 05:13:39,200 --> 05:13:42,390 >> never in. So, it's just not going in 8666 05:13:42,390 --> 05:13:42,400 » never in. So, it's just not going in 8667 05:13:42,400 --> 05:13:46,230 >> and Mike is sliding it. 8668 05:13:46,230 --> 05:13:46,240 » and Mike is sliding it. 8669 05:13:46,240 --> 05:13:50,310 >> Well, it's in his suggestion here. Okay. 8670 05:13:50,310 --> 05:13:50,320 » Well, it's in his suggestion here. Okay. 8671 05:13:50,320 --> 05:13:50,868 >> Next year. 8672 05:13:50,868 --> 05:13:50,878 » Next year. 8673 05:13:50,878 --> 05:13:53,830 >> Mike is sliding it. Am I the only one 8674 05:13:53,830 --> 05:13:53,840 » Mike is sliding it. Am I the only one 8675 05:13:53,840 --> 05:13:56,400 who doesn't see F2? 8676 05:13:56,400 --> 05:13:57,440 Is there no F2? 8677 05:13:57,440 --> 05:13:59,430 >> There's no F2. 8678 05:13:59,430 --> 05:13:59,440 » There's no F2. 8679 05:13:59,440 --> 05:14:03,590 >> Okay. 8680 05:14:03,600 --> 05:14:05,120 » Victor two, I think. 8681 05:14:05,120 --> 05:14:05,990 >> Understood. 8682 05:14:05,990 --> 05:14:06,000 » Understood. 8683 05:14:06,000 --> 05:14:09,590 >> Okay. Uh F3 would be the fire station 8684 05:14:09,590 --> 05:14:09,600 » Okay. Uh F3 would be the fire station 8685 05:14:09,600 --> 05:14:12,000 fields, restroom facility, and the 8686 05:14:12,000 --> 05:14:15,200 maintenance building. 8687 05:14:15,200 --> 05:14:19,600 That's currently budgeted. 8688 05:14:19,600 --> 05:14:20,480 A little short, I 8689 05:14:20,480 --> 05:14:22,310 >> believe. 8690 05:14:22,310 --> 05:14:22,320 » believe. 8691 05:14:22,320 --> 05:14:22,868 >> Yes. 8692 05:14:22,868 --> 05:14:22,878 » Yes. 8693 05:14:22,878 --> 05:14:29,110 >> Yes, it is. 8694 05:14:29,120 --> 05:14:30,560 How much how much did y'all put in there 8695 05:14:30,560 --> 05:14:32,240 again last week, last Saturday? 8696 05:14:32,240 --> 05:14:34,070 >> Um, we didn't talk about this, but it's 8697 05:14:34,070 --> 05:14:34,080 » Um, we didn't talk about this, but it's 8698 05:14:34,080 --> 05:14:36,320 at 405 8699 05:14:36,320 --> 05:14:38,948 >> 825 carryover. 8700 05:14:38,948 --> 05:14:38,958 » 825 carryover. 8701 05:14:38,958 --> 05:14:41,270 >> I'm looking at the general fund and then 8702 05:14:41,270 --> 05:14:41,280 » I'm looking at the general fund and then 8703 05:14:41,280 --> 05:14:45,440 the storage building is 80,000 carry 8704 05:14:45,440 --> 05:14:47,280 carried forward. 8705 05:14:47,280 --> 05:14:49,510 >> Where is that 8706 05:14:49,510 --> 05:14:49,520 » Where is that 8707 05:14:49,520 --> 05:14:51,600 under carry forward from the from prior 8708 05:14:51,600 --> 05:14:54,480 year on general fund? If you look at the 8709 05:14:54,480 --> 05:14:56,560 100,000 that's that's highlighted. Go up 8710 05:14:56,560 --> 05:14:58,080 a little. Go up a little bit and go down 8711 05:14:58,080 --> 05:15:01,440 a little bit. You should see them 8712 05:15:01,440 --> 05:15:04,550 >> community. No, that's a fence. Um fire 8713 05:15:04,550 --> 05:15:04,560 » community. No, that's a fence. Um fire 8714 05:15:04,560 --> 05:15:06,080 station fields restroom. I see that. 8715 05:15:06,080 --> 05:15:09,840 Where's the other one though? 8716 05:15:09,840 --> 05:15:11,910 >> Oh, there it is. Storage building. I 8717 05:15:11,910 --> 05:15:11,920 » Oh, there it is. Storage building. I 8718 05:15:11,920 --> 05:15:13,680 have a question. Can we align these two 8719 05:15:13,680 --> 05:15:17,360 line items to match Mike's? 8720 05:15:17,360 --> 05:15:19,120 It's just really important that these 8721 05:15:19,120 --> 05:15:20,798 are easier to digest. So, right now we 8722 05:15:20,798 --> 05:15:23,440 have it broken out as two separate 8723 05:15:23,440 --> 05:15:25,440 projects, but Mike is working it as one 8724 05:15:25,440 --> 05:15:29,040 where the storage field or the storage 8725 05:15:29,040 --> 05:15:31,520 um building and the restrooms are going 8726 05:15:31,520 --> 05:15:33,680 to be done together. 8727 05:15:33,680 --> 05:15:35,600 I mean, is there a way to is that a 8728 05:15:35,600 --> 05:15:38,560 simple ask, Marcy? 8729 05:15:38,560 --> 05:15:41,670 >> And label it with the 8730 05:15:41,670 --> 05:15:41,680 » And label it with the 8731 05:15:41,680 --> 05:15:44,708 storage. 8732 05:15:44,718 --> 05:15:46,400 » Well, the restroom is not going to be in 8733 05:15:46,400 --> 05:15:48,560 the storage. the storage building. 8734 05:15:48,560 --> 05:15:50,390 >> Sorry, the storage building is on call 8735 05:15:50,390 --> 05:15:50,400 » Sorry, the storage building is on call 8736 05:15:50,400 --> 05:15:52,638 on the plan and stuff. 8737 05:15:52,638 --> 05:15:53,830 >> I understand who's designing it 8738 05:15:53,830 --> 05:15:53,840 » I understand who's designing it 8739 05:15:53,840 --> 05:15:55,520 together. Modular restroom facility and 8740 05:15:55,520 --> 05:15:57,440 30x40 public works storage facility. 8741 05:15:57,440 --> 05:15:58,628 >> But they won't actually be connected. 8742 05:15:58,628 --> 05:15:58,638 » But they won't actually be connected. 8743 05:15:58,638 --> 05:15:59,840 They'll be two separate. 8744 05:15:59,840 --> 05:16:01,510 >> Understood. But he's I'm just saying 8745 05:16:01,510 --> 05:16:01,520 » Understood. But he's I'm just saying 8746 05:16:01,520 --> 05:16:03,360 he's working on it together. 8747 05:16:03,360 --> 05:16:05,110 >> He is doing them together. That's how he 8748 05:16:05,110 --> 05:16:05,120 » He is doing them together. That's how he 8749 05:16:05,120 --> 05:16:06,000 has them marked. 8750 05:16:06,000 --> 05:16:07,430 >> Yeah. Mike, the assumption was that was 8751 05:16:07,430 --> 05:16:07,440 » Yeah. Mike, the assumption was that was 8752 05:16:07,440 --> 05:16:09,040 going to be bid together as one project. 8753 05:16:09,040 --> 05:16:09,440 Correct. 8754 05:16:09,440 --> 05:16:11,190 >> I would recommend we bid those at the 8755 05:16:11,190 --> 05:16:11,200 » I would recommend we bid those at the 8756 05:16:11,200 --> 05:16:11,760 same time. 8757 05:16:11,760 --> 05:16:14,708 >> Okay. So, if they're saying just add 8758 05:16:14,708 --> 05:16:14,718 » Okay. So, if they're saying just add 8759 05:16:14,718 --> 05:16:16,638 them together instead of being separate. 8760 05:16:16,638 --> 05:16:21,190 So 8761 05:16:21,200 --> 05:16:23,760 » consolidate 8762 05:16:23,760 --> 05:16:25,510 >> and did you look if those numbers 8763 05:16:25,510 --> 05:16:25,520 » and did you look if those numbers 8764 05:16:25,520 --> 05:16:27,200 correlate? 8765 05:16:27,200 --> 05:16:29,440 I can look it up 8766 05:16:29,440 --> 05:16:32,070 >> if all those numbers match the two. So 8767 05:16:32,070 --> 05:16:32,080 » if all those numbers match the two. So 8768 05:16:32,080 --> 05:16:32,798 hold on. 8769 05:16:32,798 --> 05:16:33,990 >> 501. 8770 05:16:33,990 --> 05:16:34,000 » 501. 8771 05:16:34,000 --> 05:16:35,510 >> Which number are you talking about? 8772 05:16:35,510 --> 05:16:35,520 » Which number are you talking about? 8773 05:16:35,520 --> 05:16:38,470 >> It's pretty close. It's 485. It's It's 8774 05:16:38,470 --> 05:16:38,480 » It's pretty close. It's 485. It's It's 8775 05:16:38,480 --> 05:16:41,440 short by 20,000 from your spreadsheet. 8776 05:16:41,440 --> 05:16:43,920 That okay, Mike. 8777 05:16:43,920 --> 05:16:46,390 >> Not if you want to take it out. I think 8778 05:16:46,390 --> 05:16:46,400 » Not if you want to take it out. I think 8779 05:16:46,400 --> 05:16:48,972 I think we're going to need we we 8780 05:16:48,972 --> 05:16:50,560 [snorts] had 500 in there. 8781 05:16:50,560 --> 05:16:52,788 >> 501500. 8782 05:16:52,788 --> 05:16:52,798 » 501500. 8783 05:16:52,798 --> 05:16:56,310 >> It's 452,11724 8784 05:16:56,320 --> 05:16:57,840 between the two line items. 8785 05:16:57,840 --> 05:16:59,990 >> No, it's 485825. 8786 05:16:59,990 --> 05:17:00,000 » No, it's 485825. 8787 05:17:00,000 --> 05:17:02,070 >> I think it was I think I heard 8788 05:17:02,070 --> 05:17:02,080 » I think it was I think I heard 8789 05:17:02,080 --> 05:17:03,670 >> 485. 8790 05:17:03,670 --> 05:17:03,680 » 485. 8791 05:17:03,680 --> 05:17:04,310 >> So it's about 8792 05:17:04,310 --> 05:17:04,320 » So it's about 8793 05:17:04,320 --> 05:17:05,270 >> Where's 85? 8794 05:17:05,270 --> 05:17:05,280 » Where's 85? 8795 05:17:05,280 --> 05:17:06,550 >> The 80 is the fire department. 8796 05:17:06,550 --> 05:17:06,560 » The 80 is the fire department. 8797 05:17:06,560 --> 05:17:07,990 >> Oh, I marked the wrong line. Thank you. 8798 05:17:07,990 --> 05:17:08,000 » Oh, I marked the wrong line. Thank you. 8799 05:17:08,000 --> 05:17:08,638 I'm sorry. 8800 05:17:08,638 --> 05:17:11,990 >> So that'd be 15 about 16,000 short. But 8801 05:17:11,990 --> 05:17:12,000 » So that'd be 15 about 16,000 short. But 8802 05:17:12,000 --> 05:17:14,160 I don't know if the 15,000 goes to the 8803 05:17:14,160 --> 05:17:15,840 storage building or the 15,000 goes to 8804 05:17:15,840 --> 05:17:16,638 the restroom. 8805 05:17:16,638 --> 05:17:17,750 >> Well, it's gonna go all together. 8806 05:17:17,750 --> 05:17:17,760 » Well, it's gonna go all together. 8807 05:17:17,760 --> 05:17:19,910 >> The restroom. Okay. So, no, there's two 8808 05:17:19,910 --> 05:17:19,920 » The restroom. Okay. So, no, there's two 8809 05:17:19,920 --> 05:17:22,240 different line items. So, let's change 8810 05:17:22,240 --> 05:17:26,080 the restroom to 420 420,000. 8811 05:17:26,080 --> 05:17:27,520 She said there were two there were two 8812 05:17:27,520 --> 05:17:28,638 line items. So, she's going to put them 8813 05:17:28,638 --> 05:17:29,600 together, but she not you're not 8814 05:17:29,600 --> 05:17:31,440 combining them into one line item. 8815 05:17:31,440 --> 05:17:33,270 >> That's what she's doing 8816 05:17:33,270 --> 05:17:33,280 » That's what she's doing 8817 05:17:33,280 --> 05:17:34,628 >> to match my because they're going to go 8818 05:17:34,628 --> 05:17:34,638 » to match my because they're going to go 8819 05:17:34,638 --> 05:17:36,798 out to bid together. 8820 05:17:36,798 --> 05:17:38,948 >> I'm going to put them together. I 8821 05:17:38,948 --> 05:17:38,958 » I'm going to put them together. I 8822 05:17:38,958 --> 05:17:41,360 already have two separate. I thought you 8823 05:17:41,360 --> 05:17:42,718 were saying that you could 8824 05:17:42,718 --> 05:17:44,708 >> I could put them together on sheet so 8825 05:17:44,708 --> 05:17:44,718 » I could put them together on sheet so 8826 05:17:44,718 --> 05:17:46,240 you can see them together, 8827 05:17:46,240 --> 05:17:47,590 >> but they're Yeah, different they're 8828 05:17:47,590 --> 05:17:47,600 » but they're Yeah, different they're 8829 05:17:47,600 --> 05:17:49,600 different budget line items. 8830 05:17:49,600 --> 05:17:52,788 >> 29 and 37. 8831 05:17:52,788 --> 05:17:52,798 » 29 and 37. 8832 05:17:52,798 --> 05:17:55,030 >> So, is everybody good with adding um 8833 05:17:55,030 --> 05:17:55,040 » So, is everybody good with adding um 8834 05:17:55,040 --> 05:17:56,878 15,000 to the restrooms making it 8835 05:17:56,878 --> 05:17:59,600 420,825? 8836 05:17:59,600 --> 05:18:00,948 >> I just have a question. How is that 8837 05:18:00,948 --> 05:18:00,958 » I just have a question. How is that 8838 05:18:00,958 --> 05:18:02,160 going to work when it goes out to bid 8839 05:18:02,160 --> 05:18:04,798 together? 8840 05:18:04,798 --> 05:18:07,440 We can we can have two separate bid 8841 05:18:07,440 --> 05:18:08,480 sections. And 8842 05:18:08,480 --> 05:18:10,628 >> I know, but then if we're off on one and 8843 05:18:10,628 --> 05:18:10,638 » I know, but then if we're off on one and 8844 05:18:10,638 --> 05:18:12,560 short, so we're high on one and short on 8845 05:18:12,560 --> 05:18:14,560 the other, we can't just move the funds. 8846 05:18:14,560 --> 05:18:19,430 Could we not just make it one? 8847 05:18:19,440 --> 05:18:21,920 » You get what I'm saying? 8848 05:18:21,920 --> 05:18:23,350 >> You're talking about on the accounting 8849 05:18:23,350 --> 05:18:23,360 » You're talking about on the accounting 8850 05:18:23,360 --> 05:18:23,760 side? 8851 05:18:23,760 --> 05:18:25,190 >> Yeah. On the accounting side, won't it 8852 05:18:25,190 --> 05:18:25,200 » Yeah. On the accounting side, won't it 8853 05:18:25,200 --> 05:18:31,430 matter if it aligns 8854 05:18:31,440 --> 05:18:33,440 » from the from the engineers perspective? 8855 05:18:33,440 --> 05:18:33,840 It's easy. 8856 05:18:33,840 --> 05:18:35,990 >> Not for you. Yeah. But for when they pay 8857 05:18:35,990 --> 05:18:36,000 » Not for you. Yeah. But for when they pay 8858 05:18:36,000 --> 05:18:41,030 out if 8859 05:18:41,040 --> 05:18:45,670 » Yeah, that's what I'm 8860 05:18:45,680 --> 05:18:46,798 just because they're going to put it out 8861 05:18:46,798 --> 05:18:49,440 to bid together. I'm asking if 8862 05:18:49,440 --> 05:18:51,990 >> No, 8863 05:18:51,990 --> 05:18:52,000 » No, 8864 05:18:52,000 --> 05:18:52,550 >> but 8865 05:18:52,550 --> 05:18:52,560 » but 8866 05:18:52,560 --> 05:18:55,030 >> what's that problem? I'm saying so if we 8867 05:18:55,030 --> 05:18:55,040 » what's that problem? I'm saying so if we 8868 05:18:55,040 --> 05:18:56,878 identify, we have no idea. He doesn't 8869 05:18:56,878 --> 05:18:58,400 list out and break out the bathrooms 8870 05:18:58,400 --> 05:19:01,920 versus the shed. So say right now we 8871 05:19:01,920 --> 05:19:05,280 make this 450,000 for the restrooms and 8872 05:19:05,280 --> 05:19:08,000 96 for the shed, but the bid comes back 8873 05:19:08,000 --> 05:19:09,680 with costs that are completely 8874 05:19:09,680 --> 05:19:11,680 different. If they're separate line 8875 05:19:11,680 --> 05:19:13,680 items on accounting, we would have to 8876 05:19:13,680 --> 05:19:16,160 modify. Whereas if it's one, 8877 05:19:16,160 --> 05:19:21,990 >> that's what I was asking. 8878 05:19:22,000 --> 05:19:23,680 county 8879 05:19:23,680 --> 05:19:27,040 though we have this 8880 05:19:27,040 --> 05:19:31,406 these 8881 05:19:31,416 --> 05:19:32,718 [clears throat] 8882 05:19:32,718 --> 05:19:33,830 >> so as long as they can 8883 05:19:33,830 --> 05:19:33,840 » so as long as they can 8884 05:19:33,840 --> 05:19:35,350 >> such as I'll just use this as 8885 05:19:35,350 --> 05:19:35,360 » such as I'll just use this as 8886 05:19:35,360 --> 05:19:36,948 >> let me ask you originally we did these 8887 05:19:36,948 --> 05:19:36,958 » let me ask you originally we did these 8888 05:19:36,958 --> 05:19:39,520 as two separate projects 8889 05:19:39,520 --> 05:19:42,390 >> are there two separate projects or is 8890 05:19:42,390 --> 05:19:42,400 » are there two separate projects or is 8891 05:19:42,400 --> 05:19:44,000 this 8892 05:19:44,000 --> 05:19:47,280 30 by 40 storage building included in 8893 05:19:47,280 --> 05:19:48,718 your project 8894 05:19:48,718 --> 05:19:50,708 >> there there were two separate projects 8895 05:19:50,708 --> 05:19:50,718 » there there were two separate projects 8896 05:19:50,718 --> 05:19:52,560 but proximitywise, 8897 05:19:52,560 --> 05:19:55,600 surveywise, service-wise, time-wise, it 8898 05:19:55,600 --> 05:19:57,760 made sense to just design them as one. 8899 05:19:57,760 --> 05:19:58,150 >> Okay, 8900 05:19:58,150 --> 05:19:58,160 » Okay, 8901 05:19:58,160 --> 05:19:58,948 >> that's 8902 05:19:58,948 --> 05:19:58,958 » that's 8903 05:19:58,958 --> 05:20:02,070 >> Well, I think the fallacy is calling 8904 05:20:02,070 --> 05:20:02,080 » Well, I think the fallacy is calling 8905 05:20:02,080 --> 05:20:03,920 projects. 8906 05:20:03,920 --> 05:20:06,718 It's all one project. 8907 05:20:06,718 --> 05:20:11,270 >> The two different facilities on so far, 8908 05:20:11,270 --> 05:20:11,280 » The two different facilities on so far, 8909 05:20:11,280 --> 05:20:15,190 >> it is a restroom facility and a storage 8910 05:20:15,190 --> 05:20:15,200 » it is a restroom facility and a storage 8911 05:20:15,200 --> 05:20:16,000 building facility. 8912 05:20:16,000 --> 05:20:17,030 >> I was trying to simplify that 8913 05:20:17,030 --> 05:20:17,040 » I was trying to simplify that 8914 05:20:17,040 --> 05:20:22,550 >> but one project. 8915 05:20:22,560 --> 05:20:25,040 Sir, we don't have a quorum, 8916 05:20:25,040 --> 05:20:29,990 >> Mr. Mayor. 8917 05:20:30,000 --> 05:20:32,332 » All right. Uh, 8918 05:20:32,332 --> 05:20:34,628 [clears throat] 8919 05:20:34,638 --> 05:20:35,280 » that's right. 8920 05:20:35,280 --> 05:20:37,030 >> So, that's my that's my question. 8921 05:20:37,030 --> 05:20:37,040 » So, that's my that's my question. 8922 05:20:37,040 --> 05:20:40,310 >> Fair. You just can't get up and leave. 8923 05:20:40,310 --> 05:20:40,320 » Fair. You just can't get up and leave. 8924 05:20:40,320 --> 05:20:42,320 Council people cannot just get up and 8925 05:20:42,320 --> 05:20:43,520 leave the room. 8926 05:20:43,520 --> 05:20:45,190 >> You've also left the room to get coffee. 8927 05:20:45,190 --> 05:20:45,200 » You've also left the room to get coffee. 8928 05:20:45,200 --> 05:20:46,400 Um, but 8929 05:20:46,400 --> 05:20:47,990 >> but the but at least three of us have to 8930 05:20:47,990 --> 05:20:48,000 » but the but at least three of us have to 8931 05:20:48,000 --> 05:20:48,638 stay long. 8932 05:20:48,638 --> 05:20:50,070 >> Okay. Yeah, we're here. We're all We're 8933 05:20:50,070 --> 05:20:50,080 » Okay. Yeah, we're here. We're all We're 8934 05:20:50,080 --> 05:20:50,638 all back. 8935 05:20:50,638 --> 05:20:52,150 >> What time do you got to leave, Mr. 8936 05:20:52,150 --> 05:20:52,160 » What time do you got to leave, Mr. 8937 05:20:52,160 --> 05:20:53,040 Anderson? 8938 05:20:53,040 --> 05:20:53,270 >> Now. 8939 05:20:53,270 --> 05:20:53,280 » Now. 8940 05:20:53,280 --> 05:20:53,750 >> 10 minutes. 8941 05:20:53,750 --> 05:20:53,760 » 10 minutes. 8942 05:20:53,760 --> 05:20:55,350 >> What's your cut off time? 8943 05:20:55,350 --> 05:20:55,360 » What's your cut off time? 8944 05:20:55,360 --> 05:20:57,350 >> Uh, 2:30. 8945 05:20:57,350 --> 05:20:57,360 » Uh, 2:30. 8946 05:20:57,360 --> 05:20:57,990 >> 2:30. 8947 05:20:57,990 --> 05:20:58,000 » 2:30. 8948 05:20:58,000 --> 05:20:59,670 >> We got plenty of time, folks. Plenty of 8949 05:20:59,670 --> 05:20:59,680 » We got plenty of time, folks. Plenty of 8950 05:20:59,680 --> 05:21:00,160 time. 8951 05:21:00,160 --> 05:21:02,070 >> Okay, Marc Jasmine, now you can go. 8952 05:21:02,070 --> 05:21:02,080 » Okay, Marc Jasmine, now you can go. 8953 05:21:02,080 --> 05:21:03,430 >> I'm going to wait till he comes in here. 8954 05:21:03,430 --> 05:21:03,440 » I'm going to wait till he comes in here. 8955 05:21:03,440 --> 05:21:05,990 >> Okay. Soon as everybody gets. 8956 05:21:05,990 --> 05:21:06,000 » Okay. Soon as everybody gets. 8957 05:21:06,000 --> 05:21:09,110 >> Okay. Let's Let's finish this one 8958 05:21:09,110 --> 05:21:09,120 » Okay. Let's Let's finish this one 8959 05:21:09,120 --> 05:21:10,878 conversation here. It sounds like we're 8960 05:21:10,878 --> 05:21:12,480 done with your facilities. Is that 8961 05:21:12,480 --> 05:21:13,120 right? 8962 05:21:13,120 --> 05:21:13,510 >> No. 8963 05:21:13,510 --> 05:21:13,520 » No. 8964 05:21:13,520 --> 05:21:14,550 >> No. We still have two more. 8965 05:21:14,550 --> 05:21:14,560 » No. We still have two more. 8966 05:21:14,560 --> 05:21:15,350 >> Four. five and six. 8967 05:21:15,350 --> 05:21:15,360 » Four. five and six. 8968 05:21:15,360 --> 05:21:16,948 >> And my question was, did we want to add 8969 05:21:16,948 --> 05:21:16,958 » And my question was, did we want to add 8970 05:21:16,958 --> 05:21:19,840 an additional $20,000 to the restroom so 8971 05:21:19,840 --> 05:21:21,440 it matches the spreadsheet? 8972 05:21:21,440 --> 05:21:22,230 >> I for sure want to do that. 8973 05:21:22,230 --> 05:21:22,240 » I for sure want to do that. 8974 05:21:22,240 --> 05:21:24,470 >> Yes. And yes, perfect. 8975 05:21:24,470 --> 05:21:24,480 » Yes. And yes, perfect. 8976 05:21:24,480 --> 05:21:26,628 >> Okay. 8977 05:21:26,628 --> 05:21:26,638 » Okay. 8978 05:21:26,638 --> 05:21:30,230 >> Make it 420,825. 8979 05:21:30,240 --> 05:21:33,760 » Okay. Total. And then I guess Marcy, you 8980 05:21:33,760 --> 05:21:35,280 just look to see if you should combine 8981 05:21:35,280 --> 05:21:36,560 or what's best for you. 8982 05:21:36,560 --> 05:21:37,910 >> I'll look and see if there's been 8983 05:21:37,910 --> 05:21:37,920 » I'll look and see if there's been 8984 05:21:37,920 --> 05:21:40,400 expenditure. I can journal entry. I'll 8985 05:21:40,400 --> 05:21:41,360 I'll fix it. 8986 05:21:41,360 --> 05:21:42,948 >> Let her figure it out. 8987 05:21:42,948 --> 05:21:42,958 » Let her figure it out. 8988 05:21:42,958 --> 05:21:44,948 >> Okay. Okay. And we'll add a label for F3 8989 05:21:44,948 --> 05:21:44,958 » Okay. Okay. And we'll add a label for F3 8990 05:21:44,958 --> 05:21:49,760 to that where whatever you end up doing. 8991 05:21:49,760 --> 05:21:51,430 >> I love that we're connecting it. 8992 05:21:51,430 --> 05:21:51,440 » I love that we're connecting it. 8993 05:21:51,440 --> 05:21:52,150 >> Me, too. 8994 05:21:52,150 --> 05:21:52,160 » Me, too. 8995 05:21:52,160 --> 05:21:53,910 >> Happy loop. 8996 05:21:53,910 --> 05:21:53,920 » Happy loop. 8997 05:21:53,920 --> 05:21:55,030 >> Okay. 8998 05:21:55,030 --> 05:21:55,040 » Okay. 8999 05:21:55,040 --> 05:21:57,030 >> My wife would call that tying it out in 9000 05:21:57,030 --> 05:21:57,040 » My wife would call that tying it out in 9001 05:21:57,040 --> 05:21:58,240 the accounting world. 9002 05:21:58,240 --> 05:22:00,470 >> I like it. 9003 05:22:00,470 --> 05:22:00,480 » I like it. 9004 05:22:00,480 --> 05:22:03,110 >> It doesn't tie or does one or the other. 9005 05:22:03,110 --> 05:22:03,120 » It doesn't tie or does one or the other. 9006 05:22:03,120 --> 05:22:04,788 >> Do we even need to talk about F4? Cuz 9007 05:22:04,788 --> 05:22:04,798 » Do we even need to talk about F4? Cuz 9008 05:22:04,798 --> 05:22:07,200 didn't we delete like 9009 05:22:07,200 --> 05:22:07,750 >> didn't we? 9010 05:22:07,750 --> 05:22:07,760 » didn't we? 9011 05:22:07,760 --> 05:22:10,868 >> There's nothing on Well, it has 350,000 9012 05:22:10,868 --> 05:22:10,878 » There's nothing on Well, it has 350,000 9013 05:22:10,878 --> 05:22:11,920 last year. 9014 05:22:11,920 --> 05:22:13,590 >> Did we? Okay. 9015 05:22:13,590 --> 05:22:13,600 » Did we? Okay. 9016 05:22:13,600 --> 05:22:17,030 >> Last Saturday we said well that's 27. 9017 05:22:17,030 --> 05:22:17,040 » Last Saturday we said well that's 27. 9018 05:22:17,040 --> 05:22:19,030 >> Mike, have you finished your facilities 9019 05:22:19,030 --> 05:22:19,040 » Mike, have you finished your facilities 9020 05:22:19,040 --> 05:22:20,080 presentation? 9021 05:22:20,080 --> 05:22:21,030 >> No. 9022 05:22:21,030 --> 05:22:21,040 » No. 9023 05:22:21,040 --> 05:22:24,150 >> No. I've got got three more 9024 05:22:24,150 --> 05:22:24,160 » No. I've got got three more 9025 05:22:24,160 --> 05:22:26,390 >> real quick. 9026 05:22:26,390 --> 05:22:26,400 » real quick. 9027 05:22:26,400 --> 05:22:27,990 >> But we need to wait, right? 9028 05:22:27,990 --> 05:22:28,000 » But we need to wait, right? 9029 05:22:28,000 --> 05:22:28,628 >> No, you're good. 9030 05:22:28,628 --> 05:22:28,638 » No, you're good. 9031 05:22:28,638 --> 05:22:29,750 >> You're good. There's three of us. 9032 05:22:29,750 --> 05:22:29,760 » You're good. There's three of us. 9033 05:22:29,760 --> 05:22:33,110 >> Okay. All right. So, the the project 9034 05:22:33,110 --> 05:22:33,120 » Okay. All right. So, the the project 9035 05:22:33,120 --> 05:22:36,480 2025, we had access 9036 05:22:36,480 --> 05:22:40,400 gate and access to the city 78 acres. 9037 05:22:40,400 --> 05:22:42,560 So, what I've got up on the screen here 9038 05:22:42,560 --> 05:22:47,520 is uh the an exhibit that shows how the 9039 05:22:47,520 --> 05:22:52,080 city's property comes together at the U 9040 05:22:52,080 --> 05:22:56,080 Hasslet Parkway at Hassllet Parkway. And 9041 05:22:56,080 --> 05:22:58,718 what we did was we looked at trying to 9042 05:22:58,718 --> 05:23:01,200 sort out access to this property 9043 05:23:01,200 --> 05:23:03,920 irrespective of the use of the property. 9044 05:23:03,920 --> 05:23:06,000 There is only one location that will 9045 05:23:06,000 --> 05:23:09,760 work from a technical standpoint 9046 05:23:09,760 --> 05:23:12,480 to access this property. So you can see 9047 05:23:12,480 --> 05:23:14,718 we did quite a bit of work to plan out 9048 05:23:14,718 --> 05:23:16,160 the location of this, checking 9049 05:23:16,160 --> 05:23:18,878 driveways, sight distance, turn lane 9050 05:23:18,878 --> 05:23:21,920 links for the future, all the things, 9051 05:23:21,920 --> 05:23:24,080 taking into account existing drives and 9052 05:23:24,080 --> 05:23:27,200 existing turn lanes. And we settled upon 9053 05:23:27,200 --> 05:23:30,638 a a driveway location 9054 05:23:30,638 --> 05:23:33,040 uh generally shown on this exhibit here. 9055 05:23:33,040 --> 05:23:36,638 And so we've got a project that is ready 9056 05:23:36,638 --> 05:23:39,440 for bids, actually hit the paper last 9057 05:23:39,440 --> 05:23:43,520 week to construct a fence, pipe rail 9058 05:23:43,520 --> 05:23:48,000 fence and gate along Hasslet Parkway 9059 05:23:48,000 --> 05:23:51,200 and build. 9060 05:23:51,200 --> 05:23:54,798 So that's generally the the 9061 05:23:54,798 --> 05:23:57,920 fence, the pipe rail fence, 9062 05:23:57,920 --> 05:24:00,160 and then there's some u barb wire 9063 05:24:00,160 --> 05:24:04,000 fencing to tie things in. Um the the 9064 05:24:04,000 --> 05:24:07,040 design and the bid package also includes 9065 05:24:07,040 --> 05:24:09,120 a median opening. There is no median 9066 05:24:09,120 --> 05:24:10,878 opening. 9067 05:24:10,878 --> 05:24:13,440 So you see to access it right now you'd 9068 05:24:13,440 --> 05:24:15,200 have to come up and whip a UEI that's 9069 05:24:15,200 --> 05:24:19,440 just off the sheet, but we we went ahead 9070 05:24:19,440 --> 05:24:21,680 and designed a a median opening and 9071 05:24:21,680 --> 05:24:24,160 we're bidding that as an alternate 9072 05:24:24,160 --> 05:24:27,280 to see if that can come in under budget 9073 05:24:27,280 --> 05:24:29,840 and meet the needs of the city. You 9074 05:24:29,840 --> 05:24:34,320 think 286,000 is going to cover that? 9075 05:24:34,320 --> 05:24:37,350 >> No, I think it's I think 286 would would 9076 05:24:37,350 --> 05:24:37,360 » No, I think it's I think 286 would would 9077 05:24:37,360 --> 05:24:39,280 cover the driveway and the fence, but I 9078 05:24:39,280 --> 05:24:40,638 don't think it's going to cover the 9079 05:24:40,638 --> 05:24:42,560 median opening. I think that'll be more 9080 05:24:42,560 --> 05:24:45,120 like 350, but we've already got it 9081 05:24:45,120 --> 05:24:46,958 designed and we're going to bid it as an 9082 05:24:46,958 --> 05:24:47,840 alternate. 9083 05:24:47,840 --> 05:24:48,150 >> Okay. 9084 05:24:48,150 --> 05:24:48,160 » Okay. 9085 05:24:48,160 --> 05:24:48,708 >> And if 9086 05:24:48,708 --> 05:24:48,718 » And if 9087 05:24:48,718 --> 05:24:51,110 >> what was the previous estimate that you 9088 05:24:51,110 --> 05:24:51,120 » what was the previous estimate that you 9089 05:24:51,120 --> 05:24:51,840 gave me? 9090 05:24:51,840 --> 05:24:53,510 >> 38 350 9091 05:24:53,510 --> 05:24:53,520 » 38 350 9092 05:24:53,520 --> 05:24:56,868 >> 350. How'd it get down to 260? 9093 05:24:56,868 --> 05:24:56,878 » 350. How'd it get down to 260? 9094 05:24:56,878 --> 05:24:58,550 >> He just said he took it. He just said 9095 05:24:58,550 --> 05:24:58,560 » He just said he took it. He just said 9096 05:24:58,560 --> 05:25:01,040 it. He took out the 9097 05:25:01,040 --> 05:25:03,430 >> with with the median opening is 350. 9098 05:25:03,430 --> 05:25:03,440 » with with the median opening is 350. 9099 05:25:03,440 --> 05:25:03,910 >> Yeah. 9100 05:25:03,910 --> 05:25:03,920 » Yeah. 9101 05:25:03,920 --> 05:25:05,670 >> Without the median opening it's 2. 9102 05:25:05,670 --> 05:25:05,680 » Without the median opening it's 2. 9103 05:25:05,680 --> 05:25:07,910 >> You need a median improvement. 9104 05:25:07,910 --> 05:25:07,920 » You need a median improvement. 9105 05:25:07,920 --> 05:25:10,708 >> So sorry carry forward. 9106 05:25:10,708 --> 05:25:10,718 » So sorry carry forward. 9107 05:25:10,718 --> 05:25:13,190 >> What is this budgeted at in our budget? 9108 05:25:13,190 --> 05:25:13,200 » What is this budgeted at in our budget? 9109 05:25:13,200 --> 05:25:15,750 >> 2864647 9110 05:25:15,750 --> 05:25:15,760 » 2864647 9111 05:25:15,760 --> 05:25:16,948 >> 286. 9112 05:25:16,948 --> 05:25:16,958 » 286. 9113 05:25:16,958 --> 05:25:17,590 >> Yes. 9114 05:25:17,590 --> 05:25:17,600 » Yes. 9115 05:25:17,600 --> 05:25:18,708 >> How did that happen? 9116 05:25:18,708 --> 05:25:18,718 » How did that happen? 9117 05:25:18,718 --> 05:25:20,230 >> That's been there. That was 9118 05:25:20,230 --> 05:25:20,240 » That's been there. That was 9119 05:25:20,240 --> 05:25:21,350 >> How did that happen? 9120 05:25:21,350 --> 05:25:21,360 » How did that happen? 9121 05:25:21,360 --> 05:25:23,190 >> That was what you proposed. 9122 05:25:23,190 --> 05:25:23,200 » That was what you proposed. 9123 05:25:23,200 --> 05:25:24,470 >> No. 9124 05:25:24,470 --> 05:25:24,480 » No. 9125 05:25:24,480 --> 05:25:25,510 >> Yes. 9126 05:25:25,510 --> 05:25:25,520 » Yes. 9127 05:25:25,520 --> 05:25:27,750 >> That came in your budget. that was 9128 05:25:27,750 --> 05:25:27,760 » That came in your budget. that was 9129 05:25:27,760 --> 05:25:32,480 probably um carried forward. 9130 05:25:32,480 --> 05:25:33,830 >> It was 9131 05:25:33,830 --> 05:25:33,840 » It was 9132 05:25:33,840 --> 05:25:35,350 >> um 9133 05:25:35,350 --> 05:25:35,360 » um 9134 05:25:35,360 --> 05:25:37,280 it was probably originally 350 and now 9135 05:25:37,280 --> 05:25:37,760 it's down to 9136 05:25:37,760 --> 05:25:40,150 >> 28. We need how much 9137 05:25:40,150 --> 05:25:40,160 » 28. We need how much 9138 05:25:40,160 --> 05:25:42,550 >> because with the median opening and the 9139 05:25:42,550 --> 05:25:42,560 » because with the median opening and the 9140 05:25:42,560 --> 05:25:44,160 fence and the driveway 9141 05:25:44,160 --> 05:25:46,230 >> 350. 9142 05:25:46,230 --> 05:25:46,240 » 350. 9143 05:25:46,240 --> 05:25:48,708 >> So the Yeah. 9144 05:25:48,708 --> 05:25:48,718 » So the Yeah. 9145 05:25:48,718 --> 05:25:51,110 >> Can I ask you how important this access 9146 05:25:51,110 --> 05:25:51,120 » Can I ask you how important this access 9147 05:25:51,120 --> 05:25:52,958 is? Why we would push this project for 9148 05:25:52,958 --> 05:25:55,520 this year when we've got a million other 9149 05:25:55,520 --> 05:25:57,760 expenses? 9150 05:25:57,760 --> 05:26:00,240 Well, this this this was in this year's 9151 05:26:00,240 --> 05:26:02,000 budget. 9152 05:26:02,000 --> 05:26:03,750 >> Yeah, but we haven't awarded it yet. I I 9153 05:26:03,750 --> 05:26:03,760 » Yeah, but we haven't awarded it yet. I I 9154 05:26:03,760 --> 05:26:04,080 realize 9155 05:26:04,080 --> 05:26:05,750 >> No, we have and we haven't awarded it. 9156 05:26:05,750 --> 05:26:05,760 » No, we have and we haven't awarded it. 9157 05:26:05,760 --> 05:26:09,840 We haven't We're bidding it, but um 9158 05:26:09,840 --> 05:26:11,840 access to the property. 9159 05:26:11,840 --> 05:26:15,270 >> Access to the property. We have 78 acres 9160 05:26:15,270 --> 05:26:15,280 » Access to the property. We have 78 acres 9161 05:26:15,280 --> 05:26:17,760 and don't have access to the property. 9162 05:26:17,760 --> 05:26:20,470 >> We don't have to work. 9163 05:26:20,470 --> 05:26:20,480 » We don't have to work. 9164 05:26:20,480 --> 05:26:22,150 >> We don't have any use lined up yet. 9165 05:26:22,150 --> 05:26:22,160 » We don't have any use lined up yet. 9166 05:26:22,160 --> 05:26:23,270 >> But I think it's going to be important 9167 05:26:23,270 --> 05:26:23,280 » But I think it's going to be important 9168 05:26:23,280 --> 05:26:24,798 that we do this now so when it is 9169 05:26:24,798 --> 05:26:26,080 developed, we have this. It's never 9170 05:26:26,080 --> 05:26:26,798 going to get 9171 05:26:26,798 --> 05:26:27,670 >> to tell you this. 9172 05:26:27,670 --> 05:26:27,680 » to tell you this. 9173 05:26:27,680 --> 05:26:29,110 >> Okay, I guess I'm done talking 9174 05:26:29,110 --> 05:26:29,120 » Okay, I guess I'm done talking 9175 05:26:29,120 --> 05:26:31,030 >> is using that access. 9176 05:26:31,030 --> 05:26:31,040 » is using that access. 9177 05:26:31,040 --> 05:26:32,788 >> Yeah, I think I think they're Are you 9178 05:26:32,788 --> 05:26:32,798 » Yeah, I think I think they're Are you 9179 05:26:32,798 --> 05:26:34,958 guys accessing? 9180 05:26:34,958 --> 05:26:36,788 >> Are you 9181 05:26:36,788 --> 05:26:36,798 » Are you 9182 05:26:36,798 --> 05:26:37,200 sort of 9183 05:26:37,200 --> 05:26:39,750 >> there is there is a a method we we will 9184 05:26:39,750 --> 05:26:39,760 » there is there is a a method we we will 9185 05:26:39,760 --> 05:26:40,550 >> dirt 9186 05:26:40,550 --> 05:26:40,560 » dirt 9187 05:26:40,560 --> 05:26:42,550 >> there is dirt road that goes there and 9188 05:26:42,550 --> 05:26:42,560 » there is dirt road that goes there and 9189 05:26:42,560 --> 05:26:45,600 we uh do utilize that. It would be 9190 05:26:45,600 --> 05:26:47,360 helpful to have an appropriate access 9191 05:26:47,360 --> 05:26:49,040 off of there. It's just given certain 9192 05:26:49,040 --> 05:26:51,360 times of the day it is much easier to 9193 05:26:51,360 --> 05:26:53,520 get people and equipment 9194 05:26:53,520 --> 05:26:55,590 >> through this direction. It's, you know, 9195 05:26:55,590 --> 05:26:55,600 » through this direction. It's, you know, 9196 05:26:55,600 --> 05:26:57,360 we don't have to have it, but it is 9197 05:26:57,360 --> 05:26:58,798 something we would utilize and 9198 05:26:58,798 --> 05:26:59,920 appreciate if it was there. 9199 05:26:59,920 --> 05:27:01,430 >> We're small town Texas. We can go 9200 05:27:01,430 --> 05:27:01,440 » We're small town Texas. We can go 9201 05:27:01,440 --> 05:27:05,590 off-roading. 9202 05:27:05,600 --> 05:27:07,520 » That's what Dollar General's for. 9203 05:27:07,520 --> 05:27:08,948 >> We can do it at Dollar General. We can 9204 05:27:08,948 --> 05:27:08,958 » We can do it at Dollar General. We can 9205 05:27:08,958 --> 05:27:11,040 do it on an empty lot, but that's just 9206 05:27:11,040 --> 05:27:11,680 me. 9207 05:27:11,680 --> 05:27:12,948 >> I say we leave it. I think it's going to 9208 05:27:12,948 --> 05:27:12,958 » I say we leave it. I think it's going to 9209 05:27:12,958 --> 05:27:14,718 be important that we get access to that 9210 05:27:14,718 --> 05:27:16,638 and that it 9211 05:27:16,638 --> 05:27:19,440 I know right now it doesn't seem as like 9212 05:27:19,440 --> 05:27:20,878 priority number one, but I think it's 9213 05:27:20,878 --> 05:27:22,240 important that they they have access to 9214 05:27:22,240 --> 05:27:24,240 it. There's another way to enter it and 9215 05:27:24,240 --> 05:27:26,000 it'll look good de development wise. 9216 05:27:26,000 --> 05:27:27,430 >> Can we leave it now and keep it in mind 9217 05:27:27,430 --> 05:27:27,440 » Can we leave it now and keep it in mind 9218 05:27:27,440 --> 05:27:28,160 if we need to cut? 9219 05:27:28,160 --> 05:27:29,670 >> Yeah, for sure. 9220 05:27:29,670 --> 05:27:29,680 » Yeah, for sure. 9221 05:27:29,680 --> 05:27:31,830 >> And do we want to move it to the 350? 9222 05:27:31,830 --> 05:27:31,840 » And do we want to move it to the 350? 9223 05:27:31,840 --> 05:27:32,798 He's saying he needs 9224 05:27:32,798 --> 05:27:35,030 >> So the original budget was 350,000 and 9225 05:27:35,030 --> 05:27:35,040 » So the original budget was 350,000 and 9226 05:27:35,040 --> 05:27:37,920 they've spent 13 350 225 9227 05:27:37,920 --> 05:27:38,470 >> doing what? 9228 05:27:38,470 --> 05:27:38,480 » doing what? 9229 05:27:38,480 --> 05:27:41,110 >> Well, that would be 300,000. 9230 05:27:41,110 --> 05:27:41,120 » Well, that would be 300,000. 9231 05:27:41,120 --> 05:27:42,948 >> Why that what was what was that spent 9232 05:27:42,948 --> 05:27:42,958 » Why that what was what was that spent 9233 05:27:42,958 --> 05:27:43,920 on? Do we know? 9234 05:27:43,920 --> 05:27:45,750 >> Engineering [snorts] survey survey and 9235 05:27:45,750 --> 05:27:45,760 » Engineering [snorts] survey survey and 9236 05:27:45,760 --> 05:27:47,680 engineering. 9237 05:27:47,680 --> 05:27:49,430 >> I think we did the land swap exhibits 9238 05:27:49,430 --> 05:27:49,440 » I think we did the land swap exhibits 9239 05:27:49,440 --> 05:27:52,320 with that too. So the 28 the 286 or 9240 05:27:52,320 --> 05:27:54,160 whatever's left in there would be enough 9241 05:27:54,160 --> 05:27:55,360 to 9242 05:27:55,360 --> 05:27:56,708 >> No, he's saying it's not. 9243 05:27:56,708 --> 05:27:56,718 » No, he's saying it's not. 9244 05:27:56,718 --> 05:27:58,470 >> You need another 350. 9245 05:27:58,470 --> 05:27:58,480 » You need another 350. 9246 05:27:58,480 --> 05:27:59,430 >> No, not enough. 9247 05:27:59,430 --> 05:27:59,440 » No, not enough. 9248 05:27:59,440 --> 05:28:04,150 >> We would need a note. There's $63,35255 9249 05:28:04,160 --> 05:28:06,638 carried forward or added on the carry 9250 05:28:06,638 --> 05:28:08,480 forward. So, can we mark that for now 9251 05:28:08,480 --> 05:28:09,920 and come back? 9252 05:28:09,920 --> 05:28:13,110 >> Yeah, Mike. Is that sufficient to just 9253 05:28:13,110 --> 05:28:13,120 » Yeah, Mike. Is that sufficient to just 9254 05:28:13,120 --> 05:28:14,400 restore it to 350? 9255 05:28:14,400 --> 05:28:16,628 >> I think so. Yes. That'll at least get 9256 05:28:16,628 --> 05:28:16,638 » I think so. Yes. That'll at least get 9257 05:28:16,638 --> 05:28:18,558 the driveway built. Yeah. 9258 05:28:18,558 --> 05:28:19,750 >> Okay. You got one. 9259 05:28:19,750 --> 05:28:19,760 » Okay. You got one. 9260 05:28:19,760 --> 05:28:21,830 >> James or David, have y'all ever seen 9261 05:28:21,830 --> 05:28:21,840 » James or David, have y'all ever seen 9262 05:28:21,840 --> 05:28:24,240 anybody that should not be on the 9263 05:28:24,240 --> 05:28:25,520 property entering the property from 9264 05:28:25,520 --> 05:28:27,440 Hasset Parkway since Hasslet Parkway has 9265 05:28:27,440 --> 05:28:28,080 been built? 9266 05:28:28,080 --> 05:28:28,948 >> So up to that. 9267 05:28:28,948 --> 05:28:28,958 » So up to that. 9268 05:28:28,958 --> 05:28:30,868 >> So recently that's been a common 9269 05:28:30,868 --> 05:28:30,878 » So recently that's been a common 9270 05:28:30,878 --> 05:28:33,360 occurrence. We've been ensuring that gas 9271 05:28:33,360 --> 05:28:35,680 well entrance is locked which we hope is 9272 05:28:35,680 --> 05:28:38,320 deterring that. But it's being used by 9273 05:28:38,320 --> 05:28:40,958 by more it's gas well employees 9274 05:28:40,958 --> 05:28:42,958 obviously for the use of gas wells. We 9275 05:28:42,958 --> 05:28:46,320 have seen uh other utility companies 9276 05:28:46,320 --> 05:28:48,000 using it to access rightaway and then 9277 05:28:48,000 --> 05:28:49,440 now recently we've been seeing the 9278 05:28:49,440 --> 05:28:51,760 general public all who would should not. 9279 05:28:51,760 --> 05:28:54,400 So having that gate would make that 9280 05:28:54,400 --> 05:28:56,638 better uh to control that kind of 9281 05:28:56,638 --> 05:28:57,120 access. 9282 05:28:57,120 --> 05:28:58,708 >> So high schoolers won't be driving out 9283 05:28:58,708 --> 05:28:58,718 » So high schoolers won't be driving out 9284 05:28:58,718 --> 05:29:00,320 there doing donuts out on our property 9285 05:29:00,320 --> 05:29:01,200 or something, you know. 9286 05:29:01,200 --> 05:29:02,470 >> Yeah. Well, mainly they're just looking 9287 05:29:02,470 --> 05:29:02,480 » Yeah. Well, mainly they're just looking 9288 05:29:02,480 --> 05:29:05,840 for a quick cut through to get back. 9289 05:29:05,840 --> 05:29:07,190 >> Or if we built the roads right, they 9290 05:29:07,190 --> 05:29:07,200 » Or if we built the roads right, they 9291 05:29:07,200 --> 05:29:11,350 wouldn't need it. 9292 05:29:11,360 --> 05:29:13,200 » I'm going to keep 9293 05:29:13,200 --> 05:29:13,600 hidden. 9294 05:29:13,600 --> 05:29:15,670 >> So, so a fence would So, even though 9295 05:29:15,670 --> 05:29:15,680 » So, so a fence would So, even though 9296 05:29:15,680 --> 05:29:17,360 we'd like to save money right now, but a 9297 05:29:17,360 --> 05:29:19,680 fence would be beneficial to help keep 9298 05:29:19,680 --> 05:29:20,240 people off. 9299 05:29:20,240 --> 05:29:22,470 >> Yeah, it's a beneficial project, like I 9300 05:29:22,470 --> 05:29:22,480 » Yeah, it's a beneficial project, like I 9301 05:29:22,480 --> 05:29:24,400 said, and I can't speak for what it'd be 9302 05:29:24,400 --> 05:29:25,920 in a year or so, but I assume it only 9303 05:29:25,920 --> 05:29:27,440 gets more expensive to build it and it 9304 05:29:27,440 --> 05:29:29,120 was budgeted and 9305 05:29:29,120 --> 05:29:31,510 >> it makes sense to complete. 9306 05:29:31,510 --> 05:29:31,520 » it makes sense to complete. 9307 05:29:31,520 --> 05:29:33,350 >> Mike, are you going to be bidding that 9308 05:29:33,350 --> 05:29:33,360 » Mike, are you going to be bidding that 9309 05:29:33,360 --> 05:29:34,718 this fiscal year? 9310 05:29:34,718 --> 05:29:36,230 >> There's nothing in here for public works 9311 05:29:36,230 --> 05:29:36,240 » There's nothing in here for public works 9312 05:29:36,240 --> 05:29:38,798 building. 9313 05:29:38,798 --> 05:29:43,990 >> All right. What's next? 9314 05:29:44,000 --> 05:29:49,990 library. 9315 05:29:50,000 --> 05:29:52,798 » The thought [clears throat] of that is 9316 05:29:52,798 --> 05:29:57,430 um 9317 05:29:57,440 --> 05:29:59,520 if I could find that. 9318 05:29:59,520 --> 05:30:01,270 >> We talked about this last week. 9319 05:30:01,270 --> 05:30:01,280 » We talked about this last week. 9320 05:30:01,280 --> 05:30:03,910 >> We did and uh I got to mention it 9321 05:30:03,910 --> 05:30:03,920 » We did and uh I got to mention it 9322 05:30:03,920 --> 05:30:06,948 briefly. 9323 05:30:06,958 --> 05:30:10,400 the the current library 9324 05:30:10,400 --> 05:30:12,160 is insufficient. 9325 05:30:12,160 --> 05:30:13,430 >> We all agree. 9326 05:30:13,430 --> 05:30:13,440 » We all agree. 9327 05:30:13,440 --> 05:30:14,708 >> It is insufficient. 9328 05:30:14,708 --> 05:30:14,718 » It is insufficient. 9329 05:30:14,718 --> 05:30:15,510 >> We all agree. 9330 05:30:15,510 --> 05:30:15,520 » We all agree. 9331 05:30:15,520 --> 05:30:19,270 >> And building a new library, it is 9332 05:30:19,270 --> 05:30:19,280 » And building a new library, it is 9333 05:30:19,280 --> 05:30:22,000 getting u 9334 05:30:22,000 --> 05:30:26,160 frees up that existing library for city 9335 05:30:26,160 --> 05:30:28,798 offices and a dedicated council 9336 05:30:28,798 --> 05:30:33,680 chambers. Each wing is twice the size at 9337 05:30:33,680 --> 05:30:36,718 least of this area. 9338 05:30:36,718 --> 05:30:42,000 And in that so the library 9339 05:30:42,000 --> 05:30:43,190 >> before taking it 9340 05:30:43,190 --> 05:30:43,200 » before taking it 9341 05:30:43,200 --> 05:30:44,708 >> before you continue can he just do his 9342 05:30:44,708 --> 05:30:44,718 » before you continue can he just do his 9343 05:30:44,718 --> 05:30:46,080 last one then he can go and then we can 9344 05:30:46,080 --> 05:30:46,798 go back to 9345 05:30:46,798 --> 05:30:47,990 >> I didn't know he had anything he 9346 05:30:47,990 --> 05:30:48,000 » I didn't know he had anything he 9347 05:30:48,000 --> 05:30:48,638 mentioned library. 9348 05:30:48,638 --> 05:30:51,190 >> Are you done or is there anything else? 9349 05:30:51,190 --> 05:30:51,200 » Are you done or is there anything else? 9350 05:30:51,200 --> 05:30:53,270 >> I'd like to go through that last go 9351 05:30:53,270 --> 05:30:53,280 » I'd like to go through that last go 9352 05:30:53,280 --> 05:30:55,200 ahead go through that last one then we 9353 05:30:55,200 --> 05:30:56,000 can let you go. 9354 05:30:56,000 --> 05:30:57,350 >> Okay. 9355 05:30:57,350 --> 05:30:57,360 » Okay. 9356 05:30:57,360 --> 05:30:59,270 >> Okay. 9357 05:30:59,270 --> 05:30:59,280 » Okay. 9358 05:30:59,280 --> 05:31:03,670 >> Then we can 9359 05:31:03,680 --> 05:31:05,600 » Okay. The last item that I have up here 9360 05:31:05,600 --> 05:31:09,040 is the public works annex. 9361 05:31:09,040 --> 05:31:13,760 The public works annex. That was the 9362 05:31:13,760 --> 05:31:17,680 uh p public works and the material 9363 05:31:17,680 --> 05:31:22,480 storage, the yard, road, utilities. That 9364 05:31:22,480 --> 05:31:26,958 was the uh plans that we brought to the 9365 05:31:26,958 --> 05:31:28,400 last council meeting along with the 9366 05:31:28,400 --> 05:31:30,958 updated cost estimate. That project's 9367 05:31:30,958 --> 05:31:35,120 right around 5 5.1 million. 9368 05:31:35,120 --> 05:31:37,270 >> You got something to show? 9369 05:31:37,270 --> 05:31:37,280 » You got something to show? 9370 05:31:37,280 --> 05:31:39,830 >> Uh yeah, I can I'm sorry I didn't have 9371 05:31:39,830 --> 05:31:39,840 » Uh yeah, I can I'm sorry I didn't have 9372 05:31:39,840 --> 05:31:40,638 anything pulled up. 9373 05:31:40,638 --> 05:31:41,910 >> While you're pulling that up, you think 9374 05:31:41,910 --> 05:31:41,920 » While you're pulling that up, you think 9375 05:31:41,920 --> 05:31:44,798 5.1 million is required for next year? 9376 05:31:44,798 --> 05:31:46,878 You think it'll be designed, bid, and 9377 05:31:46,878 --> 05:31:47,760 completed? 9378 05:31:47,760 --> 05:31:49,350 >> I was going to I was going to briefly 9379 05:31:49,350 --> 05:31:49,360 » I was going to I was going to briefly 9380 05:31:49,360 --> 05:31:50,080 touch on that. 9381 05:31:50,080 --> 05:31:50,548 >> Okay. 9382 05:31:50,548 --> 05:31:50,558 » Okay. 9383 05:31:50,558 --> 05:31:52,628 >> Thank you for Thank you for bringing 9384 05:31:52,628 --> 05:31:52,638 » Thank you for Thank you for bringing 9385 05:31:52,638 --> 05:31:53,200 that up. 9386 05:31:53,200 --> 05:31:55,030 >> No worries. I think it's 425 now and 9387 05:31:55,030 --> 05:31:55,040 » No worries. I think it's 425 now and 9388 05:31:55,040 --> 05:31:59,040 then the rest the next 9389 05:31:59,040 --> 05:32:01,270 >> 425 now and then the rest the next year. 9390 05:32:01,270 --> 05:32:01,280 » 425 now and then the rest the next year. 9391 05:32:01,280 --> 05:32:02,470 >> I would think it's it's probably going 9392 05:32:02,470 --> 05:32:02,480 » I would think it's it's probably going 9393 05:32:02,480 --> 05:32:05,840 to be split between 27 28 28 and 29 is 9394 05:32:05,840 --> 05:32:07,280 what I 9395 05:32:07,280 --> 05:32:09,990 >> see here 9396 05:32:09,990 --> 05:32:10,000 » see here 9397 05:32:10,000 --> 05:32:12,958 the four point 9398 05:32:12,958 --> 05:32:15,200 I guess he's going to go over. 9399 05:32:15,200 --> 05:32:17,830 >> So 9400 05:32:17,830 --> 05:32:17,840 » So 9401 05:32:17,840 --> 05:32:21,120 disappeared on me. Okay everybody can 9402 05:32:21,120 --> 05:32:23,520 see the screen. So right now, this is 9403 05:32:23,520 --> 05:32:25,600 the plan that we're moving forward with 9404 05:32:25,600 --> 05:32:28,878 into detailed design. We've got these 9405 05:32:28,878 --> 05:32:31,120 three buildings. Everything you see in 9406 05:32:31,120 --> 05:32:33,680 gray is either part of the yard, part of 9407 05:32:33,680 --> 05:32:36,080 the parking lot, or the roadway. One of 9408 05:32:36,080 --> 05:32:38,718 the thoughts that we had was taking the 9409 05:32:38,718 --> 05:32:40,400 material that's going to be generated 9410 05:32:40,400 --> 05:32:42,558 from the Tarant County road work 9411 05:32:42,558 --> 05:32:44,638 projects, the three projects set to get 9412 05:32:44,638 --> 05:32:47,600 underway next month, using that wrap 9413 05:32:47,600 --> 05:32:51,840 material, stockpiling it at a location 9414 05:32:51,840 --> 05:32:54,240 generally over here out of our way. 9415 05:32:54,240 --> 05:32:58,000 using that to construct a good portion 9416 05:32:58,000 --> 05:33:00,958 of the yard and all of the road road 9417 05:33:00,958 --> 05:33:03,760 base and parking lot materials which 9418 05:33:03,760 --> 05:33:06,000 would result in a significant savings on 9419 05:33:06,000 --> 05:33:07,760 the project. We had a million dollars in 9420 05:33:07,760 --> 05:33:10,638 here for the road and the and the yard 9421 05:33:10,638 --> 05:33:12,798 paving. I think we could save a 9422 05:33:12,798 --> 05:33:15,200 significant amount of money. the the 9423 05:33:15,200 --> 05:33:17,520 type of construction and the type of 9424 05:33:17,520 --> 05:33:19,760 contractor that you would have doing 9425 05:33:19,760 --> 05:33:21,040 your buildings, you don't necessarily 9426 05:33:21,040 --> 05:33:23,920 want them building roads or doing other 9427 05:33:23,920 --> 05:33:25,680 things. So, what what we had talked 9428 05:33:25,680 --> 05:33:28,400 about doing was moving forward with the 9429 05:33:28,400 --> 05:33:30,958 three buildings. Those are currently 9430 05:33:30,958 --> 05:33:33,600 that project's funded at $2.5 million. 9431 05:33:33,600 --> 05:33:34,798 Correct. Correct. 9432 05:33:34,798 --> 05:33:36,708 >> We have three buildings there. We're 9433 05:33:36,708 --> 05:33:36,718 » We have three buildings there. We're 9434 05:33:36,718 --> 05:33:38,798 we're we we've got our architect going 9435 05:33:38,798 --> 05:33:41,680 to come in and next week, week after 9436 05:33:41,680 --> 05:33:43,280 that, we should be able to hone in on 9437 05:33:43,280 --> 05:33:44,878 what these buildings are going to cost. 9438 05:33:44,878 --> 05:33:47,360 I would recommend we move forward with 9439 05:33:47,360 --> 05:33:49,760 the design of the foundation and the 9440 05:33:49,760 --> 05:33:52,080 buildings. Try to get those out on the 9441 05:33:52,080 --> 05:33:55,200 street in the next six weeks. Get the 9442 05:33:55,200 --> 05:33:57,920 buildings out for bid while we sort 9443 05:33:57,920 --> 05:34:00,400 through the design for the rest of the 9444 05:34:00,400 --> 05:34:03,760 road and the utilities and then you all 9445 05:34:03,760 --> 05:34:06,000 determine how you want to pay for that 9446 05:34:06,000 --> 05:34:08,160 short shortfall if you will on the 9447 05:34:08,160 --> 05:34:10,958 project. To answer your question, we 9448 05:34:10,958 --> 05:34:12,878 could get started with the construction 9449 05:34:12,878 --> 05:34:14,878 of the buildings 9450 05:34:14,878 --> 05:34:20,080 um this next fiscal year and the roadway 9451 05:34:20,080 --> 05:34:22,000 and the yard and the fencing could all 9452 05:34:22,000 --> 05:34:25,520 come in um as part of next year's budget 9453 05:34:25,520 --> 05:34:28,638 or later. But I just recommend we split 9454 05:34:28,638 --> 05:34:31,600 it into two separate projects 9455 05:34:31,600 --> 05:34:34,240 would be my recommendation on the 9456 05:34:34,240 --> 05:34:35,520 implementation of it. 9457 05:34:35,520 --> 05:34:39,350 >> So 2.5 now and 2.5 9458 05:34:39,350 --> 05:34:39,360 » So 2.5 now and 2.5 9459 05:34:39,360 --> 05:34:39,680 later. 9460 05:34:39,680 --> 05:34:41,750 >> Yeah. If if we have to get concurrence 9461 05:34:41,750 --> 05:34:41,760 » Yeah. If if we have to get concurrence 9462 05:34:41,760 --> 05:34:44,480 from the county that they're going to um 9463 05:34:44,480 --> 05:34:46,718 we don't have our ILA signed, which we 9464 05:34:46,718 --> 05:34:48,320 know it's just a matter of getting it 9465 05:34:48,320 --> 05:34:50,638 signed for the Westport Parkway 9466 05:34:50,638 --> 05:34:53,280 Schoolhouse intersection. We we need to 9467 05:34:53,280 --> 05:34:54,958 get them on board saying that, yeah, 9468 05:34:54,958 --> 05:34:57,040 we'll come in and build this road. If we 9469 05:34:57,040 --> 05:34:59,280 can do that, then that's that shaves 9470 05:34:59,280 --> 05:35:00,798 potentially 9471 05:35:00,798 --> 05:35:04,320 6 to $800,000 off that 500 or that $5 9472 05:35:04,320 --> 05:35:06,000 million project. But we won't be able to 9473 05:35:06,000 --> 05:35:08,558 do that for the next few months. So, we 9474 05:35:08,558 --> 05:35:11,360 were thinking if we could just keep some 9475 05:35:11,360 --> 05:35:15,120 money in there and then somehow split 9476 05:35:15,120 --> 05:35:18,958 the project into two phases, 9477 05:35:18,958 --> 05:35:21,360 that would be a logical path forward. I 9478 05:35:21,360 --> 05:35:22,878 know that doesn't help solve your 9479 05:35:22,878 --> 05:35:26,230 >> So, you're talking building the uh 9480 05:35:26,230 --> 05:35:26,240 » So, you're talking building the uh 9481 05:35:26,240 --> 05:35:30,240 fenced area, which is almost 4 acres. 9482 05:35:30,240 --> 05:35:31,990 >> That's right. Is that correct? 9483 05:35:31,990 --> 05:35:32,000 » That's right. Is that correct? 9484 05:35:32,000 --> 05:35:34,628 >> Yes, sir. and 9485 05:35:34,628 --> 05:35:34,638 » Yes, sir. and 9486 05:35:34,638 --> 05:35:39,760 the foundations, the buildings, get as 9487 05:35:39,760 --> 05:35:42,480 far as you can on all of that. 9488 05:35:42,480 --> 05:35:44,000 Is that correct? 9489 05:35:44,000 --> 05:35:46,150 >> Um, that's one way to do it. Or 9490 05:35:46,150 --> 05:35:46,160 » Um, that's one way to do it. Or 9491 05:35:46,160 --> 05:35:49,190 >> no, no. What are you suggesting to do? 9492 05:35:49,190 --> 05:35:49,200 » no, no. What are you suggesting to do? 9493 05:35:49,200 --> 05:35:51,190 >> Well, I'm s What I'm suggesting is that 9494 05:35:51,190 --> 05:35:51,200 » Well, I'm s What I'm suggesting is that 9495 05:35:51,200 --> 05:35:52,878 we move forward with the design and 9496 05:35:52,878 --> 05:35:54,400 construction of three standalone 9497 05:35:54,400 --> 05:35:56,638 buildings right there as one package. 9498 05:35:56,638 --> 05:35:59,030 >> Yeah. The other package would include 9499 05:35:59,030 --> 05:35:59,040 » Yeah. The other package would include 9500 05:35:59,040 --> 05:36:01,520 the fencing, the road, the yard, and the 9501 05:36:01,520 --> 05:36:03,280 utilities to support those three 9502 05:36:03,280 --> 05:36:04,400 standalone buildings. 9503 05:36:04,400 --> 05:36:07,670 >> And you're suggesting the roads first, 9504 05:36:07,670 --> 05:36:07,680 » And you're suggesting the roads first, 9505 05:36:07,680 --> 05:36:09,750 >> correct? 9506 05:36:09,750 --> 05:36:09,760 » correct? 9507 05:36:09,760 --> 05:36:11,990 >> Well, it would all just be one project. 9508 05:36:11,990 --> 05:36:12,000 » Well, it would all just be one project. 9509 05:36:12,000 --> 05:36:13,910 >> Well, that's what I'm saying. The road 9510 05:36:13,910 --> 05:36:13,920 » Well, that's what I'm saying. The road 9511 05:36:13,920 --> 05:36:15,360 the because you you keep talking about 9512 05:36:15,360 --> 05:36:16,400 breaking it apart into two. 9513 05:36:16,400 --> 05:36:17,750 >> I think the the buildings are going to 9514 05:36:17,750 --> 05:36:17,760 » I think the the buildings are going to 9515 05:36:17,760 --> 05:36:19,920 take longer, I think, than the utilities 9516 05:36:19,920 --> 05:36:22,240 and the road. So, if we could get those 9517 05:36:22,240 --> 05:36:24,160 going, 9518 05:36:24,160 --> 05:36:26,400 continue the design of the buildings, 9519 05:36:26,400 --> 05:36:28,480 get those out for bid, let's say 9520 05:36:28,480 --> 05:36:29,760 October, 9521 05:36:29,760 --> 05:36:31,670 >> and by the time they're really trying to 9522 05:36:31,670 --> 05:36:31,680 » and by the time they're really trying to 9523 05:36:31,680 --> 05:36:33,280 get anything going on the site, you're 9524 05:36:33,280 --> 05:36:35,040 talking probably after the first of the 9525 05:36:35,040 --> 05:36:35,520 year, 9526 05:36:35,520 --> 05:36:35,830 >> okay, 9527 05:36:35,830 --> 05:36:35,840 » okay, 9528 05:36:35,840 --> 05:36:37,590 >> we'll have plenty of time at that point 9529 05:36:37,590 --> 05:36:37,600 » we'll have plenty of time at that point 9530 05:36:37,600 --> 05:36:40,320 to get the county to be on board on 9531 05:36:40,320 --> 05:36:41,760 whether or not they would construct the 9532 05:36:41,760 --> 05:36:43,840 roadway. At a minimum, we know we're 9533 05:36:43,840 --> 05:36:46,240 going to have the materials. we could 9534 05:36:46,240 --> 05:36:49,360 finish a separate set of civil plans for 9535 05:36:49,360 --> 05:36:51,840 the uh grading, fencing, road, and 9536 05:36:51,840 --> 05:36:54,000 utilities and just have that as a 9537 05:36:54,000 --> 05:36:56,000 separate package. So that that would be 9538 05:36:56,000 --> 05:36:58,000 the the way I would recommend you 9539 05:36:58,000 --> 05:37:01,120 implement this as a two-phase project. 9540 05:37:01,120 --> 05:37:03,920 And I I we're we're running out of time 9541 05:37:03,920 --> 05:37:06,080 to try to figure out before your 9542 05:37:06,080 --> 05:37:08,400 budget's adopted exactly what the 9543 05:37:08,400 --> 05:37:11,120 dollars are going to be, right? But I'm 9544 05:37:11,120 --> 05:37:13,120 what I'm hoping and I think we'll be 9545 05:37:13,120 --> 05:37:15,840 able to get to the point that that 5.1 9546 05:37:15,840 --> 05:37:20,160 could probably be more like 4.1 or 4.3 9547 05:37:20,160 --> 05:37:21,920 if the county is able to construct the 9548 05:37:21,920 --> 05:37:22,400 road. 9549 05:37:22,400 --> 05:37:23,750 >> Agreed. So, what do you need this year 9550 05:37:23,750 --> 05:37:23,760 » Agreed. So, what do you need this year 9551 05:37:23,760 --> 05:37:25,120 to try to get the county to do that 9552 05:37:25,120 --> 05:37:27,200 road? That's the question. Is the 2.5 or 9553 05:37:27,200 --> 05:37:29,840 do you need the full 4? What do you need 9554 05:37:29,840 --> 05:37:32,000 this year? 9555 05:37:32,000 --> 05:37:34,240 I think we would need um 9556 05:37:34,240 --> 05:37:36,788 >> I let me I'm going to interrupt 9557 05:37:36,788 --> 05:37:36,798 » I let me I'm going to interrupt 9558 05:37:36,798 --> 05:37:39,430 >> knowing knowing the knowing your 9559 05:37:39,430 --> 05:37:39,440 » knowing knowing the knowing your 9560 05:37:39,440 --> 05:37:42,480 workload and all the things that have to 9561 05:37:42,480 --> 05:37:45,360 come together to think that you can get 9562 05:37:45,360 --> 05:37:48,160 through and the architect and structure 9563 05:37:48,160 --> 05:37:51,920 and everybody else get a design and get 9564 05:37:51,920 --> 05:37:56,080 it out to bid that's and have anything 9565 05:37:56,080 --> 05:38:00,160 to construct within a fiscal year is not 9566 05:38:00,160 --> 05:38:02,160 going to Mayor, can I can I not be 9567 05:38:02,160 --> 05:38:03,360 interrupted because we agreed to that 9568 05:38:03,360 --> 05:38:05,040 last time. I would ask you before I 9569 05:38:05,040 --> 05:38:07,680 spoke and you wouldn't interrupt. Mike, 9570 05:38:07,680 --> 05:38:09,520 what do you think you need this year? 9571 05:38:09,520 --> 05:38:12,150 >> I think we I think the 2.5 would be 9572 05:38:12,150 --> 05:38:12,160 » I think we I think the 2.5 would be 9573 05:38:12,160 --> 05:38:15,760 adequate to get the buildings designed 9574 05:38:15,760 --> 05:38:18,958 and under contract. Now, how much of 9575 05:38:18,958 --> 05:38:21,040 that would be left? I won't know that 9576 05:38:21,040 --> 05:38:23,120 for probably at least two weeks because 9577 05:38:23,120 --> 05:38:24,798 we got to get with the architect, figure 9578 05:38:24,798 --> 05:38:28,000 out how it's going to finish out. Um, so 9579 05:38:28,000 --> 05:38:30,080 any any remaining funds could go to the 9580 05:38:30,080 --> 05:38:32,320 rest of the project. And if you're 9581 05:38:32,320 --> 05:38:35,520 asking should how much more of the 5.1 9582 05:38:35,520 --> 05:38:38,160 should we try to give you to get going 9583 05:38:38,160 --> 05:38:39,920 on the road and the utilities? Is that 9584 05:38:39,920 --> 05:38:40,718 what I'm 9585 05:38:40,718 --> 05:38:41,670 >> Yes. 9586 05:38:41,670 --> 05:38:41,680 » Yes. 9587 05:38:41,680 --> 05:38:42,230 >> Um, 9588 05:38:42,230 --> 05:38:42,240 » Um, 9589 05:38:42,240 --> 05:38:43,190 >> ballpark. 9590 05:38:43,190 --> 05:38:43,200 » ballpark. 9591 05:38:43,200 --> 05:38:46,868 >> Let's say um 750,000. 9592 05:38:46,868 --> 05:38:46,878 » Let's say um 750,000. 9593 05:38:46,878 --> 05:38:49,030 >> So you would need us to take you to 3.25 9594 05:38:49,030 --> 05:38:49,040 » So you would need us to take you to 3.25 9595 05:38:49,040 --> 05:38:50,400 million this year, 9596 05:38:50,400 --> 05:38:53,350 >> right? I think that's reasonable for 9597 05:38:53,350 --> 05:38:53,360 » right? I think that's reasonable for 9598 05:38:53,360 --> 05:38:56,798 this next fiscal year. How much how much 9599 05:38:56,798 --> 05:38:57,760 I don't know if you already said it 9600 05:38:57,760 --> 05:39:00,000 while ago, but [clears throat] by us 9601 05:39:00,000 --> 05:39:02,480 using the reused asphalt from the other 9602 05:39:02,480 --> 05:39:04,718 three projects, stockpiling it and 9603 05:39:04,718 --> 05:39:06,320 already having that on site, how much do 9604 05:39:06,320 --> 05:39:07,520 you think that's going to save us from 9605 05:39:07,520 --> 05:39:09,200 having to go buy new asphalt and we can 9606 05:39:09,200 --> 05:39:09,760 reuse that? 9607 05:39:09,760 --> 05:39:12,150 >> I think that could save 6 to 800,000 off 9608 05:39:12,150 --> 05:39:12,160 » I think that could save 6 to 800,000 off 9609 05:39:12,160 --> 05:39:13,120 that estimate. 9610 05:39:13,120 --> 05:39:15,750 >> So us adding the 750,000 this year could 9611 05:39:15,750 --> 05:39:15,760 » So us adding the 750,000 this year could 9612 05:39:15,760 --> 05:39:18,320 save us 6 to 800,000 correct in the 9613 05:39:18,320 --> 05:39:21,360 following. Okay. And Mike, just one more 9614 05:39:21,360 --> 05:39:23,200 time, the left part that says total 9615 05:39:23,200 --> 05:39:25,280 sight area 3.759. 9616 05:39:25,280 --> 05:39:27,680 What is that fenced in area for? Just 9617 05:39:27,680 --> 05:39:29,920 debris or what? What is that area 9618 05:39:29,920 --> 05:39:31,040 utilized for? 9619 05:39:31,040 --> 05:39:32,708 >> That area right there. Yeah. 9620 05:39:32,708 --> 05:39:32,718 » That area right there. Yeah. 9621 05:39:32,718 --> 05:39:34,548 >> Well, that's that's for just 9622 05:39:34,548 --> 05:39:34,558 » Well, that's that's for just 9623 05:39:34,558 --> 05:39:36,628 >> that's our brush our brush and limb day 9624 05:39:36,628 --> 05:39:36,638 » that's our brush our brush and limb day 9625 05:39:36,638 --> 05:39:38,000 drop off area. That's where we're going 9626 05:39:38,000 --> 05:39:40,160 to keep spoils or anything. Okay. But 9627 05:39:40,160 --> 05:39:42,160 mainly brush and limb is what we're 9628 05:39:42,160 --> 05:39:43,040 expecting there. 9629 05:39:43,040 --> 05:39:44,070 >> Okay. And then what are we doing with 9630 05:39:44,070 --> 05:39:44,080 » Okay. And then what are we doing with 9631 05:39:44,080 --> 05:39:45,760 the old building? 9632 05:39:45,760 --> 05:39:47,110 >> We're going to keep using it. 9633 05:39:47,110 --> 05:39:47,120 » We're going to keep using it. 9634 05:39:47,120 --> 05:39:49,030 >> We will keep using it. And the long-term 9635 05:39:49,030 --> 05:39:49,040 » We will keep using it. And the long-term 9636 05:39:49,040 --> 05:39:51,120 plan would be to ever to be completely 9637 05:39:51,120 --> 05:39:52,878 in this section over here and that'd be 9638 05:39:52,878 --> 05:39:54,638 open to something else. Okay. We think 9639 05:39:54,638 --> 05:39:56,638 long-term plans there would require some 9640 05:39:56,638 --> 05:39:58,798 ma massive reworking just because of the 9641 05:39:58,798 --> 05:40:00,878 drainage issues we've always had there. 9642 05:40:00,878 --> 05:40:02,798 Everything there is too low by 9643 05:40:02,798 --> 05:40:04,558 comparison or lots of work would have to 9644 05:40:04,558 --> 05:40:06,160 happen around us. 9645 05:40:06,160 --> 05:40:08,470 >> And this new plan still keeps all the 9646 05:40:08,470 --> 05:40:08,480 » And this new plan still keeps all the 9647 05:40:08,480 --> 05:40:12,240 utilities available, easements a open, 9648 05:40:12,240 --> 05:40:14,878 gas wells accessible, all those things, 9649 05:40:14,878 --> 05:40:15,840 right? 9650 05:40:15,840 --> 05:40:17,350 >> Yes. They would still continue to use 9651 05:40:17,350 --> 05:40:17,360 » Yes. They would still continue to use 9652 05:40:17,360 --> 05:40:19,680 that gas hall road which is our driveway 9653 05:40:19,680 --> 05:40:21,840 and then the access road up here would 9654 05:40:21,840 --> 05:40:23,840 be unencumbered by all those gas line 9655 05:40:23,840 --> 05:40:25,920 easements and the issues that were 9656 05:40:25,920 --> 05:40:26,718 related to them. 9657 05:40:26,718 --> 05:40:29,590 >> Okay. So 750,000 is what he needs. 9658 05:40:29,590 --> 05:40:29,600 » Okay. So 750,000 is what he needs. 9659 05:40:29,600 --> 05:40:31,910 >> Yeah. I do I was coming in today willing 9660 05:40:31,910 --> 05:40:31,920 » Yeah. I do I was coming in today willing 9661 05:40:31,920 --> 05:40:34,320 to go up to the full 5 million. So if 9662 05:40:34,320 --> 05:40:37,680 you think only that's 3.25 is sufficient 9663 05:40:37,680 --> 05:40:38,878 then I'm I'm definitely okay. 9664 05:40:38,878 --> 05:40:40,628 >> I think I think that's enough to get us 9665 05:40:40,628 --> 05:40:40,638 » I think I think that's enough to get us 9666 05:40:40,638 --> 05:40:42,798 through this next year. I I think that's 9667 05:40:42,798 --> 05:40:43,200 that's 9668 05:40:43,200 --> 05:40:44,628 >> and then the rest next year whatever's 9669 05:40:44,628 --> 05:40:44,638 » and then the rest next year whatever's 9670 05:40:44,638 --> 05:40:44,958 left. 9671 05:40:44,958 --> 05:40:47,830 >> Yeah. And then Mike to go to the mayor's 9672 05:40:47,830 --> 05:40:47,840 » Yeah. And then Mike to go to the mayor's 9673 05:40:47,840 --> 05:40:50,558 kind of comment about, you know, your 9674 05:40:50,558 --> 05:40:53,440 guys' ability. Where does Belchip and 9675 05:40:53,440 --> 05:40:54,878 Associates sit with the amount of work? 9676 05:40:54,878 --> 05:40:57,520 This is going to be a heavy engineering 9677 05:40:57,520 --> 05:40:59,520 prepping for construction year. Can you 9678 05:40:59,520 --> 05:41:01,200 guys handle all that? What is your 9679 05:41:01,200 --> 05:41:01,920 response to that? 9680 05:41:01,920 --> 05:41:04,948 >> Yeah, we we've we've got um eight eight 9681 05:41:04,948 --> 05:41:04,958 » Yeah, we we've we've got um eight eight 9682 05:41:04,958 --> 05:41:07,360 full-time folks there at the office now. 9683 05:41:07,360 --> 05:41:10,400 Back when we used to work for you guys 9684 05:41:10,400 --> 05:41:13,120 in earnest, we we had three besides 9685 05:41:13,120 --> 05:41:16,160 George. So, we're capable. We've we've 9686 05:41:16,160 --> 05:41:18,320 uh we're not working for the town of 9687 05:41:18,320 --> 05:41:21,760 Ponder anymore, who was a big um uh 9688 05:41:21,760 --> 05:41:24,080 client of ours up and that's that's 9689 05:41:24,080 --> 05:41:26,000 within the last 3 months. So, we we have 9690 05:41:26,000 --> 05:41:28,080 the manpower to put on these projects. 9691 05:41:28,080 --> 05:41:29,590 >> So, there's nothing we budgeted for this 9692 05:41:29,590 --> 05:41:29,600 » So, there's nothing we budgeted for this 9693 05:41:29,600 --> 05:41:31,040 year that you would not be able to hit 9694 05:41:31,040 --> 05:41:32,558 the necessary deadlines to achieve. 9695 05:41:32,558 --> 05:41:34,230 >> No, we can we can we can achieve 9696 05:41:34,230 --> 05:41:34,240 » No, we can we can we can achieve 9697 05:41:34,240 --> 05:41:35,440 everything in this budget. 9698 05:41:35,440 --> 05:41:37,030 >> Okay. I just want to make sure. And then 9699 05:41:37,030 --> 05:41:37,040 » Okay. I just want to make sure. And then 9700 05:41:37,040 --> 05:41:38,400 one other thing, you weren't here last 9701 05:41:38,400 --> 05:41:42,638 Saturday. We put um $100,000 for a town 9702 05:41:42,638 --> 05:41:45,440 hall future vision um potentially 9703 05:41:45,440 --> 05:41:47,040 considering actually the front of this 9704 05:41:47,040 --> 05:41:51,360 public works land for a town hall or 9705 05:41:51,360 --> 05:41:53,360 somewhere else in the city. Do you think 9706 05:41:53,360 --> 05:41:55,760 that's enough to get us going? Um we 9707 05:41:55,760 --> 05:41:57,040 didn't want to spend a ton because we 9708 05:41:57,040 --> 05:41:59,040 want to work on our strategic plan, but 9709 05:41:59,040 --> 05:42:01,040 we also wanted to put funds available 9710 05:42:01,040 --> 05:42:02,958 for you to start considering locations 9711 05:42:02,958 --> 05:42:05,680 in the town um and more prepare us for 9712 05:42:05,680 --> 05:42:06,320 next year. 9713 05:42:06,320 --> 05:42:08,310 >> Yeah. And we've got an associate that 9714 05:42:08,310 --> 05:42:08,320 » Yeah. And we've got an associate that 9715 05:42:08,320 --> 05:42:10,878 might be a good um source for some of 9716 05:42:10,878 --> 05:42:13,520 that work, too. But yeah, 100 100,000 is 9717 05:42:13,520 --> 05:42:15,040 more than adequate to put something 9718 05:42:15,040 --> 05:42:16,320 together. You're talking about for this 9719 05:42:16,320 --> 05:42:17,200 piece right here? 9720 05:42:17,200 --> 05:42:21,430 >> Yeah. Well, it was it was an idea. 9721 05:42:21,430 --> 05:42:21,440 » Yeah. Well, it was it was an idea. 9722 05:42:21,440 --> 05:42:23,030 >> But just come up with something that 9723 05:42:23,030 --> 05:42:23,040 » But just come up with something that 9724 05:42:23,040 --> 05:42:24,400 could fit into a space 9725 05:42:24,400 --> 05:42:27,990 >> potentially. Some offices and places for 9726 05:42:27,990 --> 05:42:28,000 » potentially. Some offices and places for 9727 05:42:28,000 --> 05:42:30,558 people to meet concrete 9728 05:42:30,558 --> 05:42:33,350 >> for our growing staff. 9729 05:42:33,350 --> 05:42:33,360 » for our growing staff. 9730 05:42:33,360 --> 05:42:34,948 >> I'm done. 9731 05:42:34,948 --> 05:42:34,958 » I'm done. 9732 05:42:34,958 --> 05:42:37,030 >> Anything else? I have a question. 9733 05:42:37,030 --> 05:42:37,040 » Anything else? I have a question. 9734 05:42:37,040 --> 05:42:38,788 >> Yes, sir. 9735 05:42:38,788 --> 05:42:38,798 » Yes, sir. 9736 05:42:38,798 --> 05:42:41,430 >> What is that road needed for 9737 05:42:41,430 --> 05:42:41,440 » What is that road needed for 9738 05:42:41,440 --> 05:42:42,788 >> to get to the 9739 05:42:42,788 --> 05:42:42,798 » to get to the 9740 05:42:42,798 --> 05:42:45,270 >> No, it Well, public works would be the 9741 05:42:45,270 --> 05:42:45,280 » No, it Well, public works would be the 9742 05:42:45,280 --> 05:42:47,280 only thing out there 9743 05:42:47,280 --> 05:42:49,750 >> and they currently use schoolhouse road 9744 05:42:49,750 --> 05:42:49,760 » and they currently use schoolhouse road 9745 05:42:49,760 --> 05:42:52,878 or that road off of schoolhouse road. 9746 05:42:52,878 --> 05:42:55,350 >> James talked about this a few weeks ago. 9747 05:42:55,350 --> 05:42:55,360 » James talked about this a few weeks ago. 9748 05:42:55,360 --> 05:42:58,390 >> So, what is that new road down to the 9749 05:42:58,390 --> 05:42:58,400 » So, what is that new road down to the 9750 05:42:58,400 --> 05:43:02,320 south and into that four? 9751 05:43:02,320 --> 05:43:03,830 >> James talked about this a few weeks ago 9752 05:43:03,830 --> 05:43:03,840 » James talked about this a few weeks ago 9753 05:43:03,840 --> 05:43:05,520 at a city council meeting. need 9754 05:43:05,520 --> 05:43:09,430 >> I I didn't 9755 05:43:09,440 --> 05:43:14,080 I don't uh I'm asking the question now. 9756 05:43:14,080 --> 05:43:16,628 >> What is that road needed for? 9757 05:43:16,628 --> 05:43:16,638 » What is that road needed for? 9758 05:43:16,638 --> 05:43:18,310 >> So they get 18 wheelers in there. 9759 05:43:18,310 --> 05:43:18,320 » So they get 18 wheelers in there. 9760 05:43:18,320 --> 05:43:19,830 >> James, can you can you bring 9761 05:43:19,830 --> 05:43:19,840 » James, can you can you bring 9762 05:43:19,840 --> 05:43:21,910 >> James can answer that or Mike Anderson? 9763 05:43:21,910 --> 05:43:21,920 » James can answer that or Mike Anderson? 9764 05:43:21,920 --> 05:43:23,840 And Mike Anderson designed it. What's it 9765 05:43:23,840 --> 05:43:26,718 needed for? 9766 05:43:26,718 --> 05:43:29,110 >> Access to the public works and building 9767 05:43:29,110 --> 05:43:29,120 » Access to the public works and building 9768 05:43:29,120 --> 05:43:30,558 services department. 9769 05:43:30,558 --> 05:43:31,910 >> Building services 9770 05:43:31,910 --> 05:43:31,920 » Building services 9771 05:43:31,920 --> 05:43:33,990 >> including 18. You're planning on putting 9772 05:43:33,990 --> 05:43:34,000 » including 18. You're planning on putting 9773 05:43:34,000 --> 05:43:35,440 building services out here. 9774 05:43:35,440 --> 05:43:37,590 >> Yeah, we talked about take and yeah, not 9775 05:43:37,590 --> 05:43:37,600 » Yeah, we talked about take and yeah, not 9776 05:43:37,600 --> 05:43:39,360 having the rental fee here. That's one 9777 05:43:39,360 --> 05:43:40,798 of the options is one of them there. 9778 05:43:40,798 --> 05:43:43,110 >> I want to give you an example and this 9779 05:43:43,110 --> 05:43:43,120 » I want to give you an example and this 9780 05:43:43,120 --> 05:43:47,440 is about using taxpayer money. 9781 05:43:47,440 --> 05:43:51,990 >> Let's say that that road ends up costing 9782 05:43:51,990 --> 05:43:52,000 » Let's say that that road ends up costing 9783 05:43:52,000 --> 05:43:53,680 the city, 9784 05:43:53,680 --> 05:43:57,190 >> I don't know, $750,000. 9785 05:43:57,190 --> 05:43:57,200 » I don't know, $750,000. 9786 05:43:57,200 --> 05:44:00,878 Probably $1.5 million road, right? Let's 9787 05:44:00,878 --> 05:44:03,280 say we save half of it through the 9788 05:44:03,280 --> 05:44:05,280 county. 9789 05:44:05,280 --> 05:44:06,878 $750,000. 9790 05:44:06,878 --> 05:44:09,280 Take a calculator. 9791 05:44:09,280 --> 05:44:13,120 Take $750,000. Divide $38,000 9792 05:44:13,120 --> 05:44:17,440 into it. And how many years will it take 9793 05:44:17,440 --> 05:44:20,718 to recoup that money? If you're doing it 9794 05:44:20,718 --> 05:44:22,558 only for building services, 9795 05:44:22,558 --> 05:44:24,390 >> not just for them. Last future 9796 05:44:24,390 --> 05:44:24,400 » not just for them. Last future 9797 05:44:24,400 --> 05:44:25,760 development [clears throat] for that for 9798 05:44:25,760 --> 05:44:28,080 that other side of 77 acres. And there 9799 05:44:28,080 --> 05:44:29,200 was an issue. 9800 05:44:29,200 --> 05:44:31,350 >> There was future development. I I also 9801 05:44:31,350 --> 05:44:31,360 » There was future development. I I also 9802 05:44:31,360 --> 05:44:32,558 mentioned and 9803 05:44:32,558 --> 05:44:34,070 >> future development of what? 9804 05:44:34,070 --> 05:44:34,080 » future development of what? 9805 05:44:34,080 --> 05:44:36,230 >> The other side of the road. 9806 05:44:36,230 --> 05:44:36,240 » The other side of the road. 9807 05:44:36,240 --> 05:44:37,670 >> Other side. 9808 05:44:37,670 --> 05:44:37,680 » Other side. 9809 05:44:37,680 --> 05:44:37,990 >> Okay. 9810 05:44:37,990 --> 05:44:38,000 » Okay. 9811 05:44:38,000 --> 05:44:40,390 >> M Mr. Mayor, can No. Can Can we Can 9812 05:44:40,390 --> 05:44:40,400 » M Mr. Mayor, can No. Can Can we Can 9813 05:44:40,400 --> 05:44:42,470 >> Are you talking about the 40 acres on 9814 05:44:42,470 --> 05:44:42,480 » Are you talking about the 40 acres on 9815 05:44:42,480 --> 05:44:43,280 the south side? 9816 05:44:43,280 --> 05:44:45,110 >> He just doesn't want this one. 9817 05:44:45,110 --> 05:44:45,120 » He just doesn't want this one. 9818 05:44:45,120 --> 05:44:45,990 >> Mr. Mayor. 9819 05:44:45,990 --> 05:44:46,000 » Mr. Mayor. 9820 05:44:46,000 --> 05:44:47,830 >> Yes. 9821 05:44:47,830 --> 05:44:47,840 » Yes. 9822 05:44:47,840 --> 05:44:49,840 Maybe about a month ago, James Tucker 9823 05:44:49,840 --> 05:44:51,680 got up and stood at the podium and gave 9824 05:44:51,680 --> 05:44:54,638 a big presentation of why 9825 05:44:54,638 --> 05:44:57,600 we cannot do this up here because of 9826 05:44:57,600 --> 05:44:59,280 utilities, those gas ements and stuff 9827 05:44:59,280 --> 05:45:00,798 and he said we could not do that up 9828 05:45:00,798 --> 05:45:02,958 there and it's not good. So that's why 9829 05:45:02,958 --> 05:45:05,600 they came up with this new road right 9830 05:45:05,600 --> 05:45:06,878 here. 9831 05:45:06,878 --> 05:45:08,708 >> James, do you mind spend just a few 9832 05:45:08,708 --> 05:45:08,718 » James, do you mind spend just a few 9833 05:45:08,718 --> 05:45:10,558 minutes and explain that again because 9834 05:45:10,558 --> 05:45:11,760 it's 9835 05:45:11,760 --> 05:45:13,030 >> but he doesn't understand. 9836 05:45:13,030 --> 05:45:13,040 » but he doesn't understand. 9837 05:45:13,040 --> 05:45:13,670 >> Yeah. 9838 05:45:13,670 --> 05:45:13,680 » Yeah. 9839 05:45:13,680 --> 05:45:15,590 >> Well, what was you know? I find it 9840 05:45:15,590 --> 05:45:15,600 » Well, what was you know? I find it 9841 05:45:15,600 --> 05:45:18,638 interesting. I listen to your questions. 9842 05:45:18,638 --> 05:45:21,120 I don't tell you or comment about your 9843 05:45:21,120 --> 05:45:23,360 questions, but every one of you are 9844 05:45:23,360 --> 05:45:26,718 chiding me for asking a question. 9845 05:45:26,718 --> 05:45:28,310 >> But he went every one of you. 9846 05:45:28,310 --> 05:45:28,320 » But he went every one of you. 9847 05:45:28,320 --> 05:45:29,510 >> I think the issue is that 9848 05:45:29,510 --> 05:45:29,520 » I think the issue is that 9849 05:45:29,520 --> 05:45:31,830 >> is that professional is that working? 9850 05:45:31,830 --> 05:45:31,840 » is that professional is that working? 9851 05:45:31,840 --> 05:45:33,510 >> Chris hasn't said a word. Chris has not 9852 05:45:33,510 --> 05:45:33,520 » Chris hasn't said a word. Chris has not 9853 05:45:33,520 --> 05:45:35,920 said a word about Chris hasn't said a 9854 05:45:35,920 --> 05:45:36,718 word. 9855 05:45:36,718 --> 05:45:39,190 >> Not every one of us has is frustrating. 9856 05:45:39,190 --> 05:45:39,200 » Not every one of us has is frustrating. 9857 05:45:39,200 --> 05:45:41,030 >> Well, majority of you looking at all 9858 05:45:41,030 --> 05:45:41,040 » Well, majority of you looking at all 9859 05:45:41,040 --> 05:45:41,920 three of you now. 9860 05:45:41,920 --> 05:45:42,788 >> So then there So 9861 05:45:42,788 --> 05:45:42,798 » So then there So 9862 05:45:42,798 --> 05:45:46,548 >> So James, Mr. Tucker, would you explain 9863 05:45:46,548 --> 05:45:46,558 » So James, Mr. Tucker, would you explain 9864 05:45:46,558 --> 05:45:49,600 to that why that road is needed? 9865 05:45:49,600 --> 05:45:51,830 >> All right. This road was was put on here 9866 05:45:51,830 --> 05:45:51,840 » All right. This road was was put on here 9867 05:45:51,840 --> 05:45:55,200 and was suggested because of the gas 9868 05:45:55,200 --> 05:45:57,440 lines that are in the way to make this 9869 05:45:57,440 --> 05:45:59,680 for public access to get down to it. Gas 9870 05:45:59,680 --> 05:46:01,600 lines, we have not ever come up with an 9871 05:46:01,600 --> 05:46:04,320 exact number, but the uh based on what 9872 05:46:04,320 --> 05:46:06,160 engineering knows about the typical 9873 05:46:06,160 --> 05:46:08,160 rules of crossing gas lines, they are 9874 05:46:08,160 --> 05:46:09,440 not going to let us construct a 9875 05:46:09,440 --> 05:46:11,360 permanent access road over at least one 9876 05:46:11,360 --> 05:46:13,440 of the gathering lines. and we'd have to 9877 05:46:13,440 --> 05:46:15,200 cross the line at at least like a 90 9878 05:46:15,200 --> 05:46:18,240 degree angle, which could be possible, 9879 05:46:18,240 --> 05:46:20,160 but the utilities that have to be 9880 05:46:20,160 --> 05:46:22,160 extended along that road would only ever 9881 05:46:22,160 --> 05:46:25,840 service the public works building um and 9882 05:46:25,840 --> 05:46:28,558 really nobody else. And the cost 9883 05:46:28,558 --> 05:46:29,920 difference, I mean, there is a cost 9884 05:46:29,920 --> 05:46:31,840 difference to provide them on this other 9885 05:46:31,840 --> 05:46:33,600 road, but more people would benefit from 9886 05:46:33,600 --> 05:46:35,600 them. So, that's what we suggest. would 9887 05:46:35,600 --> 05:46:37,200 benefit what people 9888 05:46:37,200 --> 05:46:39,030 >> any the there's a neighboring piece of 9889 05:46:39,030 --> 05:46:39,040 » any the there's a neighboring piece of 9890 05:46:39,040 --> 05:46:40,958 property if things ever develop there 9891 05:46:40,958 --> 05:46:42,718 they could utilize the water and sewer 9892 05:46:42,718 --> 05:46:46,080 as well and anything else 9893 05:46:46,080 --> 05:46:47,520 you to 9894 05:46:47,520 --> 05:46:50,390 >> do a development for the other property 9895 05:46:50,390 --> 05:46:50,400 » do a development for the other property 9896 05:46:50,400 --> 05:46:51,990 >> that was just one of the possible um 9897 05:46:51,990 --> 05:46:52,000 » that was just one of the possible um 9898 05:46:52,000 --> 05:46:53,760 positives of being proactive is what is 9899 05:46:53,760 --> 05:46:54,558 I think what we were saying 9900 05:46:54,558 --> 05:46:55,750 >> which is something this city has 9901 05:46:55,750 --> 05:46:55,760 » which is something this city has 9902 05:46:55,760 --> 05:46:56,480 struggled with 9903 05:46:56,480 --> 05:47:00,470 >> I see 9904 05:47:00,480 --> 05:47:02,240 I'm just asking you know the use of 9905 05:47:02,240 --> 05:47:02,798 money 9906 05:47:02,798 --> 05:47:04,070 >> that's a great question because we want 9907 05:47:04,070 --> 05:47:04,080 » that's a great question because we want 9908 05:47:04,080 --> 05:47:05,600 to make sure that Yeah, the money that's 9909 05:47:05,600 --> 05:47:08,878 being spent is going to be a useful way 9910 05:47:08,878 --> 05:47:10,000 to spend it. So, 9911 05:47:10,000 --> 05:47:11,990 >> uh the other thing I want to mention is 9912 05:47:11,990 --> 05:47:12,000 » uh the other thing I want to mention is 9913 05:47:12,000 --> 05:47:15,280 about thinking about uh putting building 9914 05:47:15,280 --> 05:47:17,840 services there. Now, that whole idea, 9915 05:47:17,840 --> 05:47:19,920 that old compound and that whole idea 9916 05:47:19,920 --> 05:47:23,920 emanated from the mayor years ago 9917 05:47:23,920 --> 05:47:27,600 and uh the idea when it could been we 9918 05:47:27,600 --> 05:47:29,440 were looking at thinking that it could 9919 05:47:29,440 --> 05:47:33,920 be put on the west side of the existing 9920 05:47:33,920 --> 05:47:36,958 public works building that I I thought, 9921 05:47:36,958 --> 05:47:40,240 well, you know, that would be a 9922 05:47:40,240 --> 05:47:42,718 we could put building services up there 9923 05:47:42,718 --> 05:47:46,718 with them. we could save $38,000 a year, 9924 05:47:46,718 --> 05:47:49,280 36 at that time. 9925 05:47:49,280 --> 05:47:53,040 Well, what we've learned or actually 9926 05:47:53,040 --> 05:47:55,360 public works and planning and everybody 9927 05:47:55,360 --> 05:47:57,360 learned here in the last few months, you 9928 05:47:57,360 --> 05:48:01,280 can't put it up here on the west side. 9929 05:48:01,280 --> 05:48:05,600 So that's why it's on the east side now. 9930 05:48:05,600 --> 05:48:09,360 And with regard to building services 9931 05:48:09,360 --> 05:48:13,520 over there, then that becomes that is a 9932 05:48:13,520 --> 05:48:16,558 an office used by the public and that 9933 05:48:16,558 --> 05:48:21,040 becomes almost a hidden spot. The 9934 05:48:21,040 --> 05:48:25,360 as far as ease of access and service to 9935 05:48:25,360 --> 05:48:28,400 uh those folks who get permits and 9936 05:48:28,400 --> 05:48:30,320 building inspections and things of that 9937 05:48:30,320 --> 05:48:32,160 nature, 9938 05:48:32,160 --> 05:48:34,080 you can't find a better place than where 9939 05:48:34,080 --> 05:48:35,440 it's at right now. 9940 05:48:35,440 --> 05:48:37,670 >> Were you saying that was 37? What was 9941 05:48:37,670 --> 05:48:37,680 » Were you saying that was 37? What was 9942 05:48:37,680 --> 05:48:38,400 the amount? 9943 05:48:38,400 --> 05:48:39,350 >> 38,000. 9944 05:48:39,350 --> 05:48:39,360 » 38,000. 9945 05:48:39,360 --> 05:48:41,670 >> How much? 38,000 is what he's used 9946 05:48:41,670 --> 05:48:41,680 » How much? 38,000 is what he's used 9947 05:48:41,680 --> 05:48:43,910 >> currently. It's 44,400 and that doesn't 9948 05:48:43,910 --> 05:48:43,920 » currently. It's 44,400 and that doesn't 9949 05:48:43,920 --> 05:48:45,760 include the the insurance. Is that I was 9950 05:48:45,760 --> 05:48:46,878 talking about the public the rental? 9951 05:48:46,878 --> 05:48:48,390 >> I'm not talking about just the rental of 9952 05:48:48,390 --> 05:48:48,400 » I'm not talking about just the rental of 9953 05:48:48,400 --> 05:48:48,798 the 9954 05:48:48,798 --> 05:48:49,750 >> That's what she's talking about. 9955 05:48:49,750 --> 05:48:49,760 » That's what she's talking about. 9956 05:48:49,760 --> 05:48:50,470 >> 38,000. 9957 05:48:50,470 --> 05:48:50,480 » 38,000. 9958 05:48:50,480 --> 05:48:54,788 >> It's 37,000 this year, which is 44,400. 9959 05:48:54,788 --> 05:48:54,798 » It's 37,000 this year, which is 44,400. 9960 05:48:54,798 --> 05:48:56,150 >> I just want to get my numbers right. And 9961 05:48:56,150 --> 05:48:56,160 » I just want to get my numbers right. And 9962 05:48:56,160 --> 05:48:58,160 then there's is there also liability? Is 9963 05:48:58,160 --> 05:48:59,680 there also insurance that we're paying? 9964 05:48:59,680 --> 05:49:01,270 >> But also all the storage fees that we 9965 05:49:01,270 --> 05:49:01,280 » But also all the storage fees that we 9966 05:49:01,280 --> 05:49:03,920 have for the library, for parks board, 9967 05:49:03,920 --> 05:49:04,240 for 9968 05:49:04,240 --> 05:49:05,990 >> No, not I'm talking about very 9969 05:49:05,990 --> 05:49:06,000 » No, not I'm talking about very 9970 05:49:06,000 --> 05:49:07,920 specifically building services. I am 9971 05:49:07,920 --> 05:49:09,680 too. But you were talking about $38,000 9972 05:49:09,680 --> 05:49:11,280 that we would save. 9973 05:49:11,280 --> 05:49:14,070 >> It's 44,000 include all 9974 05:49:14,070 --> 05:49:14,080 » It's 44,000 include all 9975 05:49:14,080 --> 05:49:15,110 >> 44,400. 9976 05:49:15,110 --> 05:49:15,120 » 44,400. 9977 05:49:15,120 --> 05:49:16,230 >> I know. 9978 05:49:16,230 --> 05:49:16,240 » I know. 9979 05:49:16,240 --> 05:49:19,270 >> Also, all the storage fees took right 9980 05:49:19,270 --> 05:49:19,280 » Also, all the storage fees took right 9981 05:49:19,280 --> 05:49:20,240 now groups. 9982 05:49:20,240 --> 05:49:22,070 >> Well, no, that's already in that was 9983 05:49:22,070 --> 05:49:22,080 » Well, no, that's already in that was 9984 05:49:22,080 --> 05:49:25,920 never uh building services would not be 9985 05:49:25,920 --> 05:49:27,440 providing storage area. I'm talking 9986 05:49:27,440 --> 05:49:28,878 about just the relocation. 9987 05:49:28,878 --> 05:49:29,670 >> Those buildings 9988 05:49:29,670 --> 05:49:29,680 » Those buildings 9989 05:49:29,680 --> 05:49:30,708 >> building services 9990 05:49:30,708 --> 05:49:30,718 » building services 9991 05:49:30,718 --> 05:49:32,470 >> and those buildings would also include 9992 05:49:32,470 --> 05:49:32,480 » and those buildings would also include 9993 05:49:32,480 --> 05:49:33,200 storage. 9994 05:49:33,200 --> 05:49:35,750 >> Yeah. So, this is going to wipe out like 9995 05:49:35,750 --> 05:49:35,760 » Yeah. So, this is going to wipe out like 9996 05:49:35,760 --> 05:49:38,958 $50,000 plus a year that we're spending 9997 05:49:38,958 --> 05:49:39,520 right now. 9998 05:49:39,520 --> 05:49:40,788 >> I'm looking at rent. 9999 05:49:40,788 --> 05:49:40,798 » I'm looking at rent. 10000 05:49:40,798 --> 05:49:41,990 >> Can I ask that we get back to the 10001 05:49:41,990 --> 05:49:42,000 » Can I ask that we get back to the 10002 05:49:42,000 --> 05:49:42,718 agenda? 10003 05:49:42,718 --> 05:49:44,070 >> But this is not on the agenda. That's 10004 05:49:44,070 --> 05:49:44,080 » But this is not on the agenda. That's 10005 05:49:44,080 --> 05:49:45,360 what I'm saying. Can we get back to the 10006 05:49:45,360 --> 05:49:45,840 agenda? 10007 05:49:45,840 --> 05:49:49,830 >> Is that this road was needed because 10008 05:49:49,830 --> 05:49:49,840 » Is that this road was needed because 10009 05:49:49,840 --> 05:49:51,270 >> technically this isn't on the agenda. 10010 05:49:51,270 --> 05:49:51,280 » technically this isn't on the agenda. 10011 05:49:51,280 --> 05:49:53,830 >> An improved road for the public to go to 10012 05:49:53,830 --> 05:49:53,840 » An improved road for the public to go to 10013 05:49:53,840 --> 05:49:56,160 building services. That's what I was 10014 05:49:56,160 --> 05:49:56,480 told. 10015 05:49:56,480 --> 05:49:58,150 >> Mayor, technically we have not told the 10016 05:49:58,150 --> 05:49:58,160 » Mayor, technically we have not told the 10017 05:49:58,160 --> 05:49:59,440 public we're discussing this building. 10018 05:49:59,440 --> 05:50:00,958 It's not even on the budget. It's not 10019 05:50:00,958 --> 05:50:02,160 something we're considering the 10020 05:50:02,160 --> 05:50:04,628 >> Oh, now you you want to I'm just 10021 05:50:04,628 --> 05:50:04,638 » Oh, now you you want to I'm just 10022 05:50:04,638 --> 05:50:05,120 bringing it down. 10023 05:50:05,120 --> 05:50:07,990 >> You know what? I I see the bias here. 10024 05:50:07,990 --> 05:50:08,000 » You know what? I I see the bias here. 10025 05:50:08,000 --> 05:50:09,120 Anyway, it's not 10026 05:50:09,120 --> 05:50:11,910 >> If I took 700 10027 05:50:11,910 --> 05:50:11,920 » If I took 700 10028 05:50:11,920 --> 05:50:17,030 >> $50,000 and divided 30 or $44,000 a year 10029 05:50:17,030 --> 05:50:17,040 » $50,000 and divided 30 or $44,000 a year 10030 05:50:17,040 --> 05:50:19,760 into it, it takes 17 years to get your 10031 05:50:19,760 --> 05:50:20,400 money back. 10032 05:50:20,400 --> 05:50:22,070 >> The bias here is that we don't want a 10033 05:50:22,070 --> 05:50:22,080 » The bias here is that we don't want a 10034 05:50:22,080 --> 05:50:23,360 horse arena and we don't want a 10035 05:50:23,360 --> 05:50:25,040 community garden. I know those are what 10036 05:50:25,040 --> 05:50:26,718 have you have planned for that that 10037 05:50:26,718 --> 05:50:28,480 land. But what we decided that's what 10038 05:50:28,480 --> 05:50:29,760 that land was bought for. 10039 05:50:29,760 --> 05:50:31,350 >> But we have decided that absolutely not 10040 05:50:31,350 --> 05:50:31,360 » But we have decided that absolutely not 10041 05:50:31,360 --> 05:50:31,920 true. 10042 05:50:31,920 --> 05:50:33,750 >> It is true. I was on capital and that 10043 05:50:33,750 --> 05:50:33,760 » It is true. I was on capital and that 10044 05:50:33,760 --> 05:50:35,360 was purchased and that is not true. That 10045 05:50:35,360 --> 05:50:36,160 was not true statement. 10046 05:50:36,160 --> 05:50:37,030 >> It is true. 10047 05:50:37,030 --> 05:50:37,040 » It is true. 10048 05:50:37,040 --> 05:50:39,510 >> That might be why you are telling people 10049 05:50:39,510 --> 05:50:39,520 » That might be why you are telling people 10050 05:50:39,520 --> 05:50:43,040 that absolutely not property for us. 10051 05:50:43,040 --> 05:50:45,190 >> An executive session was the only time 10052 05:50:45,190 --> 05:50:45,200 » An executive session was the only time 10053 05:50:45,200 --> 05:50:46,958 in question was ever mentioned until a 10054 05:50:46,958 --> 05:50:48,718 public town hall meeting where it was 10055 05:50:48,718 --> 05:50:50,718 talked about. But at council when I was 10056 05:50:50,718 --> 05:50:52,320 on it and we talked about it, it was 10057 05:50:52,320 --> 05:50:54,548 >> Oh, an open session. No, it wasn't say 10058 05:50:54,548 --> 05:50:54,558 » Oh, an open session. No, it wasn't say 10059 05:50:54,558 --> 05:50:56,240 it's fought very specifically. And it 10060 05:50:56,240 --> 05:50:57,750 >> Wait, so you're disclosing executive 10061 05:50:57,750 --> 05:50:57,760 » Wait, so you're disclosing executive 10062 05:50:57,760 --> 05:50:58,558 session? 10063 05:50:58,558 --> 05:50:59,990 >> No, he already that's already been done. 10064 05:50:59,990 --> 05:51:00,000 » No, he already that's already been done. 10065 05:51:00,000 --> 05:51:00,480 But um 10066 05:51:00,480 --> 05:51:01,670 >> he already did that. 10067 05:51:01,670 --> 05:51:01,680 » he already did that. 10068 05:51:01,680 --> 05:51:03,110 >> But we said we wanted to wait and see 10069 05:51:03,110 --> 05:51:03,120 » But we said we wanted to wait and see 10070 05:51:03,120 --> 05:51:05,520 what the citizens wanted in that area. I 10071 05:51:05,520 --> 05:51:08,638 I have the notes. I have We can That was 10072 05:51:08,638 --> 05:51:11,360 not purchased for that specifically by 10073 05:51:11,360 --> 05:51:12,718 by council approving that. 10074 05:51:12,718 --> 05:51:14,548 >> Either way, this is not on this agenda. 10075 05:51:14,548 --> 05:51:14,558 » Either way, this is not on this agenda. 10076 05:51:14,558 --> 05:51:16,708 >> No, this is on the agenda. Oh, you don't 10077 05:51:16,708 --> 05:51:16,718 » No, this is on the agenda. Oh, you don't 10078 05:51:16,718 --> 05:51:19,760 want to talk about this. 10079 05:51:19,760 --> 05:51:21,430 >> I'm talking about this has very 10080 05:51:21,430 --> 05:51:21,440 » I'm talking about this has very 10081 05:51:21,440 --> 05:51:24,638 specifically relates to the budget. It's 10082 05:51:24,638 --> 05:51:28,638 investing money in a an element for a 10083 05:51:28,638 --> 05:51:30,718 particular reason. It's all about money. 10084 05:51:30,718 --> 05:51:32,400 That's what this budget is about. 10085 05:51:32,400 --> 05:51:33,670 >> No matter what we're building, the 10086 05:51:33,670 --> 05:51:33,680 » No matter what we're building, the 10087 05:51:33,680 --> 05:51:35,760 public works office, which they need the 10088 05:51:35,760 --> 05:51:38,718 road to access and for the residents to 10089 05:51:38,718 --> 05:51:40,480 be able to access that drop off point. I 10090 05:51:40,480 --> 05:51:42,480 forget what you referred to it as, which 10091 05:51:42,480 --> 05:51:45,920 means we have to build that other road. 10092 05:51:45,920 --> 05:51:46,390 >> Mr. 10093 05:51:46,390 --> 05:51:46,400 » Mr. 10094 05:51:46,400 --> 05:51:48,470 >> Well, that's that's not particularly 10095 05:51:48,470 --> 05:51:48,480 » Well, that's that's not particularly 10096 05:51:48,480 --> 05:51:50,480 true. You don't have to. Oh, we've 10097 05:51:50,480 --> 05:51:51,840 decided to 10098 05:51:51,840 --> 05:51:53,750 >> I I you know, I just wanted to ask the 10099 05:51:53,750 --> 05:51:53,760 » I I you know, I just wanted to ask the 10100 05:51:53,760 --> 05:51:55,760 question. 10101 05:51:55,760 --> 05:51:57,110 >> Can I ask a question? Can I 10102 05:51:57,110 --> 05:51:57,120 » Can I ask a question? Can I 10103 05:51:57,120 --> 05:51:58,708 >> maybe Maybe he might write up something. 10104 05:51:58,708 --> 05:51:58,718 » maybe Maybe he might write up something. 10105 05:51:58,718 --> 05:52:00,160 The mayor can't ask questions. 10106 05:52:00,160 --> 05:52:01,990 >> No, you can ask questions. I'm just 10107 05:52:01,990 --> 05:52:02,000 » No, you can ask questions. I'm just 10108 05:52:02,000 --> 05:52:03,840 talking about office being built right 10109 05:52:03,840 --> 05:52:04,240 now. 10110 05:52:04,240 --> 05:52:05,990 >> Thank you very much. I am glad I got 10111 05:52:05,990 --> 05:52:06,000 » Thank you very much. I am glad I got 10112 05:52:06,000 --> 05:52:06,798 your permission. 10113 05:52:06,798 --> 05:52:07,990 >> Mr. Mayor. 10114 05:52:07,990 --> 05:52:08,000 » Mr. Mayor. 10115 05:52:08,000 --> 05:52:09,670 >> Yes. 10116 05:52:09,670 --> 05:52:09,680 » Yes. 10117 05:52:09,680 --> 05:52:11,990 >> Over here. 10118 05:52:11,990 --> 05:52:12,000 » Over here. 10119 05:52:12,000 --> 05:52:13,750 >> I was not saying while ago you couldn't 10120 05:52:13,750 --> 05:52:13,760 » I was not saying while ago you couldn't 10121 05:52:13,760 --> 05:52:16,878 ask a question. That was not my my 10122 05:52:16,878 --> 05:52:19,040 statement. I was just referencing. 10123 05:52:19,040 --> 05:52:20,958 Thanks. Thanks for coming back. I was 10124 05:52:20,958 --> 05:52:23,440 just referencing that about a month ago, 10125 05:52:23,440 --> 05:52:25,440 Mr. Tucker gave a long presentation 10126 05:52:25,440 --> 05:52:27,600 during city council meeting, an update 10127 05:52:27,600 --> 05:52:29,520 on the public works building. He told 10128 05:52:29,520 --> 05:52:31,520 why we needed the new road and why we 10129 05:52:31,520 --> 05:52:33,600 could not use the old road because of 10130 05:52:33,600 --> 05:52:36,320 utilities. I was just telling you that 10131 05:52:36,320 --> 05:52:38,480 to save all this discussion when you 10132 05:52:38,480 --> 05:52:40,400 answer that question that he already had 10133 05:52:40,400 --> 05:52:44,080 a presentation for it and you can ask 10134 05:52:44,080 --> 05:52:45,840 him at a later time why that road is not 10135 05:52:45,840 --> 05:52:47,920 done, why we need this new road. He gave 10136 05:52:47,920 --> 05:52:49,680 a long drawn out multiple PowerPoint 10137 05:52:49,680 --> 05:52:51,440 deal of why the road is. So 10138 05:52:51,440 --> 05:52:52,070 >> that's good. 10139 05:52:52,070 --> 05:52:52,080 » that's good. 10140 05:52:52,080 --> 05:52:53,510 >> That's that's what I was trying I was 10141 05:52:53,510 --> 05:52:53,520 » That's that's what I was trying I was 10142 05:52:53,520 --> 05:52:54,958 not saying I wouldn't say you could ask 10143 05:52:54,958 --> 05:52:56,320 questions. You can 10144 05:52:56,320 --> 05:52:58,230 >> I was just reference he already said 10145 05:52:58,230 --> 05:52:58,240 » I was just reference he already said 10146 05:52:58,240 --> 05:52:59,200 that and we 10147 05:52:59,200 --> 05:53:00,390 >> I appreciate that. 10148 05:53:00,390 --> 05:53:00,400 » I appreciate that. 10149 05:53:00,400 --> 05:53:00,868 >> Yes, sir. 10150 05:53:00,868 --> 05:53:00,878 » Yes, sir. 10151 05:53:00,878 --> 05:53:03,430 >> Thank you very much. 10152 05:53:03,430 --> 05:53:03,440 » Thank you very much. 10153 05:53:03,440 --> 05:53:06,628 >> All right. Okay. Are we done with 10154 05:53:06,628 --> 05:53:06,638 » All right. Okay. Are we done with 10155 05:53:06,638 --> 05:53:07,920 facilities? 10156 05:53:07,920 --> 05:53:09,990 >> Yes. So, we're not going to talk about a 10157 05:53:09,990 --> 05:53:10,000 » Yes. So, we're not going to talk about a 10158 05:53:10,000 --> 05:53:13,200 library and the remodel of this one, but 10159 05:53:13,200 --> 05:53:16,000 we're going to talk about let's build a 10160 05:53:16,000 --> 05:53:18,718 monument called a city hall complex. Is 10161 05:53:18,718 --> 05:53:18,878 that 10162 05:53:18,878 --> 05:53:19,670 >> Well, you said you were going to talk 10163 05:53:19,670 --> 05:53:19,680 » Well, you said you were going to talk 10164 05:53:19,680 --> 05:53:20,160 about the library. 10165 05:53:20,160 --> 05:53:22,310 >> 25 to $30 million. That's what you're 10166 05:53:22,310 --> 05:53:22,320 » 25 to $30 million. That's what you're 10167 05:53:22,320 --> 05:53:23,120 talking about. 10168 05:53:23,120 --> 05:53:24,070 >> You said we were going to come back and 10169 05:53:24,070 --> 05:53:24,080 » You said we were going to come back and 10170 05:53:24,080 --> 05:53:25,440 talk about the library. We're not doing 10171 05:53:25,440 --> 05:53:25,840 that. 10172 05:53:25,840 --> 05:53:27,270 >> Are we going to talk about the library? 10173 05:53:27,270 --> 05:53:27,280 » Are we going to talk about the library? 10174 05:53:27,280 --> 05:53:28,000 That's what you said. 10175 05:53:28,000 --> 05:53:30,150 >> The library The librarian said last 10176 05:53:30,150 --> 05:53:30,160 » The library The librarian said last 10177 05:53:30,160 --> 05:53:31,760 librarian has said multiple times that 10178 05:53:31,760 --> 05:53:34,160 we she wants to wait. The librarians or 10179 05:53:34,160 --> 05:53:37,440 I mean, sorry. Anyway, the library man I 10180 05:53:37,440 --> 05:53:39,200 mean did you Marcy? 10181 05:53:39,200 --> 05:53:41,270 >> I didn't get the final decision on the 10182 05:53:41,270 --> 05:53:41,280 » I didn't get the final decision on the 10183 05:53:41,280 --> 05:53:44,320 public works. Are we adding 750,000 to 10184 05:53:44,320 --> 05:53:45,270 >> for now? Yes. 10185 05:53:45,270 --> 05:53:45,280 » for now? Yes. 10186 05:53:45,280 --> 05:53:46,150 >> Okay. 10187 05:53:46,150 --> 05:53:46,160 » Okay. 10188 05:53:46,160 --> 05:53:47,110 >> Our our 10189 05:53:47,110 --> 05:53:47,120 » Our our 10190 05:53:47,120 --> 05:53:52,310 >> Okay. Library is the thought was 10191 05:53:52,310 --> 05:53:52,320 » Okay. Library is the thought was 10192 05:53:52,320 --> 05:53:55,270 >> that this larger library almost double 10193 05:53:55,270 --> 05:53:55,280 » that this larger library almost double 10194 05:53:55,280 --> 05:53:58,160 the size of what we have now can be 10195 05:53:58,160 --> 05:54:01,120 built. they will fully utilize every as 10196 05:54:01,120 --> 05:54:06,958 inch of it and offer the citizenry 10197 05:54:06,958 --> 05:54:10,240 much more and also it consolidates their 10198 05:54:10,240 --> 05:54:12,240 programs. They don't have to be walking 10199 05:54:12,240 --> 05:54:14,320 out of the library across the parking 10200 05:54:14,320 --> 05:54:17,600 lots to come into this room. This what 10201 05:54:17,600 --> 05:54:19,760 they use this room for can be contained 10202 05:54:19,760 --> 05:54:23,120 in that one building that one building. 10203 05:54:23,120 --> 05:54:27,600 They can rain or shine they do this. So 10204 05:54:27,600 --> 05:54:30,798 then that frees up the existing library. 10205 05:54:30,798 --> 05:54:32,798 The existing library is a little over 10206 05:54:32,798 --> 05:54:35,920 4,000 square ft. It's much bigger than 10207 05:54:35,920 --> 05:54:38,878 these offices over here, but one wing of 10208 05:54:38,878 --> 05:54:41,520 it could be dedicated for council 10209 05:54:41,520 --> 05:54:43,680 chambers. That eliminates the swapping 10210 05:54:43,680 --> 05:54:45,200 out of chairs and furniture and 10211 05:54:45,200 --> 05:54:47,840 arrangements in here that happen all the 10212 05:54:47,840 --> 05:54:50,000 time for every meeting we have. You 10213 05:54:50,000 --> 05:54:52,160 know, PNC, this meeting, that meeting, 10214 05:54:52,160 --> 05:54:54,320 that meeting. So that would eliminate 10215 05:54:54,320 --> 05:54:56,480 public works efforts. 10216 05:54:56,480 --> 05:54:59,600 The also a council chamber in that same 10217 05:54:59,600 --> 05:55:02,480 wing could be provided for the count or 10218 05:55:02,480 --> 05:55:05,840 not council chambers but a boardroom for 10219 05:55:05,840 --> 05:55:08,000 executive session meetings could be 10220 05:55:08,000 --> 05:55:12,320 included. The other wing 10221 05:55:12,320 --> 05:55:15,760 could be all city offices. Additional 10222 05:55:15,760 --> 05:55:19,680 offices that is needed. It's needed now. 10223 05:55:19,680 --> 05:55:22,798 It would retain these existing offices, 10224 05:55:22,798 --> 05:55:26,240 but it then it has the capability that 10225 05:55:26,240 --> 05:55:29,200 this existing could be coupled 10226 05:55:29,200 --> 05:55:32,718 structurally with that library to make a 10227 05:55:32,718 --> 05:55:37,200 much larger city hall office area. 10228 05:55:37,200 --> 05:55:38,868 >> What's the proposed location of the 10229 05:55:38,868 --> 05:55:38,878 » What's the proposed location of the 10230 05:55:38,878 --> 05:55:40,240 library? There's no land purchase 10231 05:55:40,240 --> 05:55:40,878 currently. 10232 05:55:40,878 --> 05:55:41,670 >> No, no, ma'am. 10233 05:55:41,670 --> 05:55:41,680 » No, no, ma'am. 10234 05:55:41,680 --> 05:55:43,910 >> So, what what where would the library 10235 05:55:43,910 --> 05:55:43,920 » So, what what where would the library 10236 05:55:43,920 --> 05:55:47,840 possibly be located? the 10237 05:55:47,840 --> 05:55:49,360 me see if I have that. 10238 05:55:49,360 --> 05:55:51,430 >> Mr. Mayor, I I guess I have a problem 10239 05:55:51,430 --> 05:55:51,440 » Mr. Mayor, I I guess I have a problem 10240 05:55:51,440 --> 05:55:53,200 with this because the our I mean I think 10241 05:55:53,200 --> 05:55:54,958 we do need a new library. I'm 100% on 10242 05:55:54,958 --> 05:55:57,920 board with that. But we need to think 10243 05:55:57,920 --> 05:55:59,760 realization. Right now, our librarian, 10244 05:55:59,760 --> 05:56:02,958 our head librarian, Miss Kelly, has said 10245 05:56:02,958 --> 05:56:04,958 last two years, 10246 05:56:04,958 --> 05:56:06,480 we want to wait until at least a year 10247 05:56:06,480 --> 05:56:08,558 that Fort Worth is open down the street. 10248 05:56:08,558 --> 05:56:10,718 See how that impacts us and see what we 10249 05:56:10,718 --> 05:56:13,200 need to do for that. if it really hurts 10250 05:56:13,200 --> 05:56:16,958 us, then we'll think about what we need 10251 05:56:16,958 --> 05:56:19,120 to do. Uh, but she said, "We need to 10252 05:56:19,120 --> 05:56:21,440 wait." She has said that multiple times. 10253 05:56:21,440 --> 05:56:23,360 And then, and I know you want a new 10254 05:56:23,360 --> 05:56:26,000 library. We all do. We do. We know this 10255 05:56:26,000 --> 05:56:28,000 one's We know this one's too small. It 10256 05:56:28,000 --> 05:56:30,000 was built good years ago, but it's too 10257 05:56:30,000 --> 05:56:32,718 small now, but right now, we just we 10258 05:56:32,718 --> 05:56:34,080 need to wait. And she has said we need 10259 05:56:34,080 --> 05:56:35,920 to wait. But I know you're full throttle 10260 05:56:35,920 --> 05:56:38,798 on this. 10261 05:56:38,798 --> 05:56:40,708 >> Where is that? 10262 05:56:40,708 --> 05:56:40,718 » Where is that? 10263 05:56:40,718 --> 05:56:41,910 >> So, 10264 05:56:41,910 --> 05:56:41,920 » So, 10265 05:56:41,920 --> 05:56:45,520 So, you're taking out some houses. 10266 05:56:45,520 --> 05:56:46,948 >> Where's this park? 10267 05:56:46,948 --> 05:56:46,958 » Where's this park? 10268 05:56:46,958 --> 05:56:47,350 >> Yeah. 10269 05:56:47,350 --> 05:56:47,360 » Yeah. 10270 05:56:47,360 --> 05:56:49,830 >> So, is this my property that I own? 10271 05:56:49,830 --> 05:56:49,840 » So, is this my property that I own? 10272 05:56:49,840 --> 05:56:52,628 >> Is that your property? 10273 05:56:52,628 --> 05:56:52,638 » Is that your property? 10274 05:56:52,638 --> 05:56:54,548 >> Is that my property that I own on Gamble 10275 05:56:54,548 --> 05:56:54,558 » Is that my property that I own on Gamble 10276 05:56:54,558 --> 05:56:55,200 Street? 10277 05:56:55,200 --> 05:56:56,310 >> Is that your property? 10278 05:56:56,310 --> 05:56:56,320 » Is that your property? 10279 05:56:56,320 --> 05:56:57,670 >> That's why I'm asking you. It's your 10280 05:56:57,670 --> 05:56:57,680 » That's why I'm asking you. It's your 10281 05:56:57,680 --> 05:56:58,480 document. 10282 05:56:58,480 --> 05:56:59,270 >> Yes. 10283 05:56:59,270 --> 05:56:59,280 » Yes. 10284 05:56:59,280 --> 05:57:00,948 >> Well, I don't know if that is your 10285 05:57:00,948 --> 05:57:00,958 » Well, I don't know if that is your 10286 05:57:00,958 --> 05:57:01,440 property. 10287 05:57:01,440 --> 05:57:03,270 >> The property that's right park. 10288 05:57:03,270 --> 05:57:03,280 » The property that's right park. 10289 05:57:03,280 --> 05:57:05,910 >> The if you got Gamble Park, there's an 10290 05:57:05,910 --> 05:57:05,920 » The if you got Gamble Park, there's an 10291 05:57:05,920 --> 05:57:08,320 empty lot and then there's a small house 10292 05:57:08,320 --> 05:57:11,200 to the west of those are both hers. owns 10293 05:57:11,200 --> 05:57:12,958 the so is that 10294 05:57:12,958 --> 05:57:15,110 >> so that but yes to answer your question 10295 05:57:15,110 --> 05:57:15,120 » so that but yes to answer your question 10296 05:57:15,120 --> 05:57:15,920 that's where that is 10297 05:57:15,920 --> 05:57:18,948 >> property at 105 it's not for sale so I 10298 05:57:18,948 --> 05:57:18,958 » property at 105 it's not for sale so I 10299 05:57:18,958 --> 05:57:20,798 don't that's the first I've seen of a 10300 05:57:20,798 --> 05:57:23,280 library on it but I can tell you that 10301 05:57:23,280 --> 05:57:25,600 for myself my property is not for sale 10302 05:57:25,600 --> 05:57:27,680 and I don't think my mom's is next door 10303 05:57:27,680 --> 05:57:28,160 for sale 10304 05:57:28,160 --> 05:57:29,350 >> but nonetheless um 10305 05:57:29,350 --> 05:57:29,360 » but nonetheless um 10306 05:57:29,360 --> 05:57:32,310 >> nonetheless um not going to put a bl is 10307 05:57:32,310 --> 05:57:32,320 » nonetheless um not going to put a bl is 10308 05:57:32,320 --> 05:57:34,718 that is where that would be 10309 05:57:34,718 --> 05:57:35,430 >> that's not 10310 05:57:35,430 --> 05:57:35,440 » that's not 10311 05:57:35,440 --> 05:57:37,190 >> that's where it's proposed and that was 10312 05:57:37,190 --> 05:57:37,200 » that's where it's proposed and that was 10313 05:57:37,200 --> 05:57:39,440 purely for site location 10314 05:57:39,440 --> 05:57:41,670 >> Mr. for property that's not owned by the 10315 05:57:41,670 --> 05:57:41,680 » Mr. for property that's not owned by the 10316 05:57:41,680 --> 05:57:42,480 city. 10317 05:57:42,480 --> 05:57:43,910 >> Before you do this, you just got to talk 10318 05:57:43,910 --> 05:57:43,920 » Before you do this, you just got to talk 10319 05:57:43,920 --> 05:57:46,320 to the property owners. This is 10320 05:57:46,320 --> 05:57:47,830 >> Yeah, I'm going to kind of recuse myself 10321 05:57:47,830 --> 05:57:47,840 » Yeah, I'm going to kind of recuse myself 10322 05:57:47,840 --> 05:57:49,280 from this conversation because I didn't 10323 05:57:49,280 --> 05:57:52,000 know anything about that at all. So, I'm 10324 05:57:52,000 --> 05:57:52,480 just going to 10325 05:57:52,480 --> 05:57:53,270 >> Mr. Mayor. 10326 05:57:53,270 --> 05:57:53,280 » Mr. Mayor. 10327 05:57:53,280 --> 05:57:53,910 >> Yes. 10328 05:57:53,910 --> 05:57:53,920 » Yes. 10329 05:57:53,920 --> 05:57:55,430 >> Recuse myself. Right after I got on 10330 05:57:55,430 --> 05:57:55,440 » Recuse myself. Right after I got on 10331 05:57:55,440 --> 05:57:58,000 council last year, I [clears throat] saw 10332 05:57:58,000 --> 05:58:00,320 a uh rendering. 10333 05:58:00,320 --> 05:58:06,070 >> I saw a rendering of downtown HLlett 10334 05:58:06,070 --> 05:58:06,080 » I saw a rendering of downtown HLlett 10335 05:58:06,080 --> 05:58:09,440 that had previously been done and it 10336 05:58:09,440 --> 05:58:12,080 included a re redevelopment of all of 10337 05:58:12,080 --> 05:58:14,160 downtown Hlett and new municipal 10338 05:58:14,160 --> 05:58:16,240 buildings and all of that. And you 10339 05:58:16,240 --> 05:58:17,600 killed that project when you became 10340 05:58:17,600 --> 05:58:20,958 mayor is what I was was what I was told. 10341 05:58:20,958 --> 05:58:22,878 It was I think was it part of the 10342 05:58:22,878 --> 05:58:25,680 strategic plan or comprehensive plan? 10343 05:58:25,680 --> 05:58:27,350 >> No, we didn't we didn't do a downtown. 10344 05:58:27,350 --> 05:58:27,360 » No, we didn't we didn't do a downtown. 10345 05:58:27,360 --> 05:58:30,150 >> There was no I I don't I don't think it 10346 05:58:30,150 --> 05:58:30,160 » There was no I I don't I don't think it 10347 05:58:30,160 --> 05:58:33,040 was any particular 10348 05:58:33,040 --> 05:58:35,920 plan. 10349 05:58:35,920 --> 05:58:36,788 >> Well, 10350 05:58:36,788 --> 05:58:36,798 » Well, 10351 05:58:36,798 --> 05:58:39,030 >> was it in an ordinance or something or 10352 05:58:39,030 --> 05:58:39,040 » was it in an ordinance or something or 10353 05:58:39,040 --> 05:58:42,000 an official plan? Just not an official 10354 05:58:42,000 --> 05:58:43,040 never adopted. 10355 05:58:43,040 --> 05:58:44,948 >> I I don't know what you're talking about 10356 05:58:44,948 --> 05:58:44,958 » I I don't know what you're talking about 10357 05:58:44,958 --> 05:58:45,280 then. 10358 05:58:45,280 --> 05:58:48,230 >> Okay. But 10359 05:58:48,230 --> 05:58:48,240 » Okay. But 10360 05:58:48,240 --> 05:58:50,558 as as my fellow council members have 10361 05:58:50,558 --> 05:58:54,080 said, there's a new library going in for 10362 05:58:54,080 --> 05:58:54,718 Fort Worth, 10363 05:58:54,718 --> 05:58:55,110 >> right? 10364 05:58:55,110 --> 05:58:55,120 » right? 10365 05:58:55,120 --> 05:58:56,070 >> Right over there. 10366 05:58:56,070 --> 05:58:56,080 » Right over there. 10367 05:58:56,080 --> 05:58:56,868 >> Right. 10368 05:58:56,868 --> 05:58:56,878 » Right. 10369 05:58:56,878 --> 05:59:00,708 >> And everybody in our library has said 10370 05:59:00,708 --> 05:59:00,718 » And everybody in our library has said 10371 05:59:00,718 --> 05:59:01,920 they want to wait to see what that 10372 05:59:01,920 --> 05:59:04,638 impact is going to be before we spend 10373 05:59:04,638 --> 05:59:06,080 how many millions of dollars do you have 10374 05:59:06,080 --> 05:59:07,040 on the library here? 10375 05:59:07,040 --> 05:59:07,430 >> Seven. 10376 05:59:07,430 --> 05:59:07,440 » Seven. 10377 05:59:07,440 --> 05:59:08,150 >> Eight million. 10378 05:59:08,150 --> 05:59:08,160 » Eight million. 10379 05:59:08,160 --> 05:59:09,030 >> Eight. 10380 05:59:09,030 --> 05:59:09,040 » Eight. 10381 05:59:09,040 --> 05:59:11,750 >> 8 million on a library. 10382 05:59:11,750 --> 05:59:11,760 » 8 million on a library. 10383 05:59:11,760 --> 05:59:14,320 I love the library. I wish it had been 10384 05:59:14,320 --> 05:59:16,718 built bigger than it is now. And I I I 10385 05:59:16,718 --> 05:59:18,160 understand probably when it was built 10386 05:59:18,160 --> 05:59:19,520 there were certain constraints and only 10387 05:59:19,520 --> 05:59:22,160 so much money. I get all that and it 10388 05:59:22,160 --> 05:59:23,600 does need to be bigger if we're going to 10389 05:59:23,600 --> 05:59:25,520 continue to have a library for it to do 10390 05:59:25,520 --> 05:59:27,120 all the things that they would like to 10391 05:59:27,120 --> 05:59:30,958 do. But 10392 05:59:30,958 --> 05:59:32,798 we don't have $8 million to build a 10393 05:59:32,798 --> 05:59:34,718 library that nobody's asking for that we 10394 05:59:34,718 --> 05:59:36,080 don't know the impact of what that other 10395 05:59:36,080 --> 05:59:37,680 library is going to be. So, at the very 10396 05:59:37,680 --> 05:59:40,798 least, our library project is at least 10397 05:59:40,798 --> 05:59:42,958 three to five years out before we would 10398 05:59:42,958 --> 05:59:44,080 actually be building it. So, I don't 10399 05:59:44,080 --> 05:59:46,080 think it's appropriate to be having an 10400 05:59:46,080 --> 05:59:47,680 argument right now. 10401 05:59:47,680 --> 05:59:50,788 >> Part of my job, I see the needs now. 10402 05:59:50,788 --> 05:59:50,798 » Part of my job, I see the needs now. 10403 05:59:50,798 --> 05:59:51,430 >> We do too. 10404 05:59:51,430 --> 05:59:51,440 » We do too. 10405 05:59:51,440 --> 05:59:54,230 >> From my perspective, I we need a bigger 10406 05:59:54,230 --> 05:59:54,240 » From my perspective, I we need a bigger 10407 05:59:54,240 --> 05:59:55,200 library now. 10408 05:59:55,200 --> 05:59:56,070 >> Everybody knows that. 10409 05:59:56,070 --> 05:59:56,080 » Everybody knows that. 10410 05:59:56,080 --> 05:59:59,830 >> And we also need more city office space 10411 05:59:59,830 --> 05:59:59,840 » And we also need more city office space 10412 05:59:59,840 --> 06:00:00,480 now. 10413 06:00:00,480 --> 06:00:02,070 >> We needed that a long time ago. 10414 06:00:02,070 --> 06:00:02,080 » We needed that a long time ago. 10415 06:00:02,080 --> 06:00:08,230 >> Yes. And this is a very economical 10416 06:00:08,230 --> 06:00:08,240 » Yes. And this is a very economical 10417 06:00:08,240 --> 06:00:10,320 approach to acquire boat. 10418 06:00:10,320 --> 06:00:12,788 >> Could a Could a tad search been done 10419 06:00:12,788 --> 06:00:12,798 » Could a Could a tad search been done 10420 06:00:12,798 --> 06:00:13,920 prior to? 10421 06:00:13,920 --> 06:00:14,470 >> Madam, 10422 06:00:14,470 --> 06:00:14,480 » Madam, 10423 06:00:14,480 --> 06:00:17,110 >> could a TAD search have been done prior 10424 06:00:17,110 --> 06:00:17,120 » could a TAD search have been done prior 10425 06:00:17,120 --> 06:00:20,798 to see who even owned that property? 10426 06:00:20,798 --> 06:00:26,080 there I'll say there are many instances 10427 06:00:26,080 --> 06:00:29,520 where in city planning plans are made 10428 06:00:29,520 --> 06:00:32,000 irregardless of the property owner 10429 06:00:32,000 --> 06:00:33,510 >> but mayor if we were going to 10430 06:00:33,510 --> 06:00:33,520 » but mayor if we were going to 10431 06:00:33,520 --> 06:00:35,590 >> if you know that the property can't be 10432 06:00:35,590 --> 06:00:35,600 » if you know that the property can't be 10433 06:00:35,600 --> 06:00:37,360 acquired then okay [clears throat] go 10434 06:00:37,360 --> 06:00:38,160 change your plan 10435 06:00:38,160 --> 06:00:39,830 >> but if we were going to redevelop this 10436 06:00:39,830 --> 06:00:39,840 » but if we were going to redevelop this 10437 06:00:39,840 --> 06:00:42,160 site why did we let them build that 10438 06:00:42,160 --> 06:00:43,360 house right there why didn't we buy 10439 06:00:43,360 --> 06:00:45,120 these two lots that have been for sale 10440 06:00:45,120 --> 06:00:46,878 just in the last two to three years 10441 06:00:46,878 --> 06:00:47,270 >> what 10442 06:00:47,270 --> 06:00:47,280 » what 10443 06:00:47,280 --> 06:00:49,030 >> you would almost own this entire square 10444 06:00:49,030 --> 06:00:49,040 » you would almost own this entire square 10445 06:00:49,040 --> 06:00:51,920 block right Now, it would have been easy 10446 06:00:51,920 --> 06:00:53,430 >> to redevelop this. 10447 06:00:53,430 --> 06:00:53,440 » to redevelop this. 10448 06:00:53,440 --> 06:00:54,470 >> What are you talking about? 10449 06:00:54,470 --> 06:00:54,480 » What are you talking about? 10450 06:00:54,480 --> 06:00:55,350 >> What do you mean? What am I talking 10451 06:00:55,350 --> 06:00:55,360 » What do you mean? What am I talking 10452 06:00:55,360 --> 06:00:56,080 about 10453 06:00:56,080 --> 06:00:58,230 >> about by Why didn't we buy the entire 10454 06:00:58,230 --> 06:00:58,240 » about by Why didn't we buy the entire 10455 06:00:58,240 --> 06:00:59,200 block? 10456 06:00:59,200 --> 06:01:01,030 >> These two lots right here next to the 10457 06:01:01,030 --> 06:01:01,040 » These two lots right here next to the 10458 06:01:01,040 --> 06:01:02,798 parking lot have both been for sale in 10459 06:01:02,798 --> 06:01:04,638 the last 3 to 5 years. 10460 06:01:04,638 --> 06:01:06,708 >> Why didn't the city buy those? That 10461 06:01:06,708 --> 06:01:06,718 » Why didn't the city buy those? That 10462 06:01:06,718 --> 06:01:08,718 house is not that old. Why didn't the 10463 06:01:08,718 --> 06:01:10,638 city buy that? Then you would have the 10464 06:01:10,638 --> 06:01:13,200 land to do any expansion you want. 10465 06:01:13,200 --> 06:01:15,190 >> Hillwood owns the lot next to the 10466 06:01:15,190 --> 06:01:15,200 » Hillwood owns the lot next to the 10467 06:01:15,200 --> 06:01:16,160 parking lot. 10468 06:01:16,160 --> 06:01:17,670 >> It was sold as a residential lot, not 10469 06:01:17,670 --> 06:01:17,680 » It was sold as a residential lot, not 10470 06:01:17,680 --> 06:01:18,320 even 10471 06:01:18,320 --> 06:01:20,948 >> on the end. It was a residential life. 10472 06:01:20,948 --> 06:01:20,958 » on the end. It was a residential life. 10473 06:01:20,958 --> 06:01:23,590 >> Yes. But if the if you if you had a 10474 06:01:23,590 --> 06:01:23,600 » Yes. But if the if you if you had a 10475 06:01:23,600 --> 06:01:25,280 vision 10476 06:01:25,280 --> 06:01:27,990 >> if you had a vision that was put out a 10477 06:01:27,990 --> 06:01:28,000 » if you had a vision that was put out a 10478 06:01:28,000 --> 06:01:29,680 couple years ago, then that would have 10479 06:01:29,680 --> 06:01:30,878 been something that we could have worked 10480 06:01:30,878 --> 06:01:32,798 on step by step by step. 10481 06:01:32,798 --> 06:01:34,788 >> This sir, I didn't come up with a couple 10482 06:01:34,788 --> 06:01:34,798 » This sir, I didn't come up with a couple 10483 06:01:34,798 --> 06:01:35,760 years ago. 10484 06:01:35,760 --> 06:01:37,350 >> I understand. But all of a sudden, 10485 06:01:37,350 --> 06:01:37,360 » I understand. But all of a sudden, 10486 06:01:37,360 --> 06:01:38,718 you've come up with this. 10487 06:01:38,718 --> 06:01:39,510 >> Can we come back? 10488 06:01:39,510 --> 06:01:39,520 » Can we come back? 10489 06:01:39,520 --> 06:01:40,230 >> Is that [clears throat] Is there 10490 06:01:40,230 --> 06:01:40,240 » Is that [clears throat] Is there 10491 06:01:40,240 --> 06:01:41,360 something wrong with that? 10492 06:01:41,360 --> 06:01:41,990 >> That's fine. I just 10493 06:01:41,990 --> 06:01:42,000 » That's fine. I just 10494 06:01:42,000 --> 06:01:44,470 >> Is there something wrong with that? 10495 06:01:44,470 --> 06:01:44,480 » Is there something wrong with that? 10496 06:01:44,480 --> 06:01:46,548 >> What is wrong with that? It's not a 10497 06:01:46,548 --> 06:01:46,558 » What is wrong with that? It's not a 10498 06:01:46,558 --> 06:01:48,798 vision. It [clears throat] is. 10499 06:01:48,798 --> 06:01:50,958 This is just let's distract everybody 10500 06:01:50,958 --> 06:01:52,160 and throw this down because you don't 10501 06:01:52,160 --> 06:01:54,638 want us to build something 10502 06:01:54,638 --> 06:01:57,440 distraction and throwing people off. 10503 06:01:57,440 --> 06:02:00,000 That is a vision I'm looking at. You 10504 06:02:00,000 --> 06:02:00,400 know, 10505 06:02:00,400 --> 06:02:01,990 >> I work on things one thing at a time. 10506 06:02:01,990 --> 06:02:02,000 » I work on things one thing at a time. 10507 06:02:02,000 --> 06:02:03,830 >> Whose vision was it to build the first 10508 06:02:03,830 --> 06:02:03,840 » Whose vision was it to build the first 10509 06:02:03,840 --> 06:02:08,390 library? 10510 06:02:08,400 --> 06:02:09,920 A lot of people work together. I don't 10511 06:02:09,920 --> 06:02:11,920 know what it but it's true. 10512 06:02:11,920 --> 06:02:13,030 >> No, I just you're 10513 06:02:13,030 --> 06:02:13,040 » No, I just you're 10514 06:02:13,040 --> 06:02:15,510 >> all these city offices that we work over 10515 06:02:15,510 --> 06:02:15,520 » all these city offices that we work over 10516 06:02:15,520 --> 06:02:17,760 here now. What? Where did that come 10517 06:02:17,760 --> 06:02:18,638 from? 10518 06:02:18,638 --> 06:02:19,270 >> From you. 10519 06:02:19,270 --> 06:02:19,280 » From you. 10520 06:02:19,280 --> 06:02:20,310 >> It's all about you. 10521 06:02:20,310 --> 06:02:20,320 » It's all about you. 10522 06:02:20,320 --> 06:02:22,628 >> It was part of the vision. 10523 06:02:22,628 --> 06:02:22,638 » It was part of the vision. 10524 06:02:22,638 --> 06:02:24,150 >> Did you build all these buildings? 10525 06:02:24,150 --> 06:02:24,160 » Did you build all these buildings? 10526 06:02:24,160 --> 06:02:25,270 >> I didn't build the building 10527 06:02:25,270 --> 06:02:25,280 » I didn't build the building 10528 06:02:25,280 --> 06:02:26,788 >> and we're getting ready to update our 10529 06:02:26,788 --> 06:02:26,798 » and we're getting ready to update our 10530 06:02:26,798 --> 06:02:28,958 vision. We're we're working on 10531 06:02:28,958 --> 06:02:31,750 >> all I'm saying right now. I still I see 10532 06:02:31,750 --> 06:02:31,760 » all I'm saying right now. I still I see 10533 06:02:31,760 --> 06:02:34,160 something that needs to occur. 10534 06:02:34,160 --> 06:02:36,948 >> I got I got two two body including the 10535 06:02:36,948 --> 06:02:36,958 » I got I got two two body including the 10536 06:02:36,958 --> 06:02:39,280 librarian is telling you not that we 10537 06:02:39,280 --> 06:02:39,840 don't need 10538 06:02:39,840 --> 06:02:41,590 >> the librarian is telling you one thing 10539 06:02:41,590 --> 06:02:41,600 » the librarian is telling you one thing 10540 06:02:41,600 --> 06:02:43,840 but tells me another. 10541 06:02:43,840 --> 06:02:44,628 >> Is that right? 10542 06:02:44,628 --> 06:02:44,638 » Is that right? 10543 06:02:44,638 --> 06:02:46,470 >> Okay. Go ahead, Z. Yes. 10544 06:02:46,470 --> 06:02:46,480 » Okay. Go ahead, Z. Yes. 10545 06:02:46,480 --> 06:02:50,070 >> All right. I got two questions. Um and 10546 06:02:50,070 --> 06:02:50,080 » All right. I got two questions. Um and 10547 06:02:50,080 --> 06:02:53,680 there So I guess one question if I'm 10548 06:02:53,680 --> 06:02:55,360 ever looking to like buy a property or 10549 06:02:55,360 --> 06:02:57,120 anything like that, I look on the 10550 06:02:57,120 --> 06:02:59,360 appraisal Tarant County appraisal 10551 06:02:59,360 --> 06:03:01,680 westbound website. 10552 06:03:01,680 --> 06:03:03,040 That's something I feel like that you 10553 06:03:03,040 --> 06:03:04,240 would have done if you were going to 10554 06:03:04,240 --> 06:03:08,320 look at that lot. Number two, my other 10555 06:03:08,320 --> 06:03:11,680 question is or statement or this is a 10556 06:03:11,680 --> 06:03:14,400 question. when did you have our 10557 06:03:14,400 --> 06:03:16,080 engineering company or who when did you 10558 06:03:16,080 --> 06:03:19,120 have this plan done? Um and I would like 10559 06:03:19,120 --> 06:03:21,040 an answer. I don't want to like oh blah 10560 06:03:21,040 --> 06:03:23,360 blah blah because you somebody spent a 10561 06:03:23,360 --> 06:03:25,200 lot of time on that that was not done in 10562 06:03:25,200 --> 06:03:27,760 30 minutes. Somebody spent time drawing 10563 06:03:27,760 --> 06:03:30,160 out the parking lot and everything. When 10564 06:03:30,160 --> 06:03:32,240 was that? Who where did that money come 10565 06:03:32,240 --> 06:03:32,958 from that you 10566 06:03:32,958 --> 06:03:34,390 >> That was done in within the last year 10567 06:03:34,390 --> 06:03:34,400 » That was done in within the last year 10568 06:03:34,400 --> 06:03:37,120 and I had our city planner do it. 10569 06:03:37,120 --> 06:03:38,150 >> Morris 10570 06:03:38,150 --> 06:03:38,160 » Morris 10571 06:03:38,160 --> 06:03:40,628 >> how much how much they charge us for it? 10572 06:03:40,628 --> 06:03:40,638 » how much how much they charge us for it? 10573 06:03:40,638 --> 06:03:44,080 Well, Morris is on a it's not by hour. 10574 06:03:44,080 --> 06:03:46,320 He sent the contract. 10575 06:03:46,320 --> 06:03:48,390 >> So you had So you had So you had Morris 10576 06:03:48,390 --> 06:03:48,400 » So you had So you had So you had Morris 10577 06:03:48,400 --> 06:03:50,958 Swanky design that or draw that out, but 10578 06:03:50,958 --> 06:03:53,840 did not tell the city council. Did not 10579 06:03:53,840 --> 06:03:55,360 tell anybody that. You just throw this 10580 06:03:55,360 --> 06:03:58,878 on us on on a budget workshop. 10581 06:03:58,878 --> 06:03:59,990 >> There's no communication. 10582 06:03:59,990 --> 06:04:00,000 » There's no communication. 10583 06:04:00,000 --> 06:04:02,150 >> It's a concept. It's a working plan. 10584 06:04:02,150 --> 06:04:02,160 » It's a concept. It's a working plan. 10585 06:04:02,160 --> 06:04:05,190 >> It doesn't matter. It's the spend. 10586 06:04:05,190 --> 06:04:05,200 » It doesn't matter. It's the spend. 10587 06:04:05,200 --> 06:04:08,240 I was well within my rights and legal 10588 06:04:08,240 --> 06:04:11,280 action to have the city planner take a 10589 06:04:11,280 --> 06:04:13,440 look at this. Take a look at this. 10590 06:04:13,440 --> 06:04:14,788 >> It's called agenda for today. 10591 06:04:14,788 --> 06:04:14,798 » It's called agenda for today. 10592 06:04:14,798 --> 06:04:16,070 >> It's called communication with your 10593 06:04:16,070 --> 06:04:16,080 » It's called communication with your 10594 06:04:16,080 --> 06:04:16,480 city. 10595 06:04:16,480 --> 06:04:18,788 >> This is about a budget. It's I'm trying 10596 06:04:18,788 --> 06:04:18,798 » This is about a budget. It's I'm trying 10597 06:04:18,798 --> 06:04:20,798 to sell get this on the budget. 10598 06:04:20,798 --> 06:04:21,750 >> Okay. And just an example. 10599 06:04:21,750 --> 06:04:21,760 » Okay. And just an example. 10600 06:04:21,760 --> 06:04:22,708 >> We've already said we're not going to 10601 06:04:22,708 --> 06:04:22,718 » We've already said we're not going to 10602 06:04:22,718 --> 06:04:23,520 put it on the budget. 10603 06:04:23,520 --> 06:04:24,868 >> Just because you can do something 10604 06:04:24,868 --> 06:04:24,878 » Just because you can do something 10605 06:04:24,878 --> 06:04:26,320 doesn't mean you should. That that's 10606 06:04:26,320 --> 06:04:28,240 just a rule of life. And it's just an 10607 06:04:28,240 --> 06:04:30,080 example. when he when he went to go work 10608 06:04:30,080 --> 06:04:31,680 on the parks that came before the 10609 06:04:31,680 --> 06:04:34,080 council. I want to look for the future 10610 06:04:34,080 --> 06:04:36,000 offices in city hall. I didn't go talk 10611 06:04:36,000 --> 06:04:37,680 to Mr. Schwanki. I didn't go talk to the 10612 06:04:37,680 --> 06:04:39,520 engineer. I came before council and I 10613 06:04:39,520 --> 06:04:41,280 said, "Hey guys, you want to put in some 10614 06:04:41,280 --> 06:04:43,200 money for this?" And they said, "Just a 10615 06:04:43,200 --> 06:04:44,240 little bit because we're starting on 10616 06:04:44,240 --> 06:04:46,160 this strategic plan." That is what 10617 06:04:46,160 --> 06:04:48,400 working together as a city looks like. 10618 06:04:48,400 --> 06:04:51,360 And that eliminates waste because right 10619 06:04:51,360 --> 06:04:54,000 now you're getting no one's interested 10620 06:04:54,000 --> 06:04:56,240 in a library and on top of it you put it 10621 06:04:56,240 --> 06:04:57,760 on someone's land that isn't even 10622 06:04:57,760 --> 06:04:59,360 available. If you'd just come before 10623 06:04:59,360 --> 06:05:01,120 council and said you had this idea we 10624 06:05:01,120 --> 06:05:04,080 could have predisussed our concerns and 10625 06:05:04,080 --> 06:05:06,958 that's just what we're kind of I what I 10626 06:05:06,958 --> 06:05:09,120 at least am a council member am asking 10627 06:05:09,120 --> 06:05:11,040 you to start coming before council and 10628 06:05:11,040 --> 06:05:13,200 saying your ideas and hearing out our 10629 06:05:13,200 --> 06:05:14,798 opinions and concerns on it before you 10630 06:05:14,798 --> 06:05:16,080 just go move forward. 10631 06:05:16,080 --> 06:05:18,070 >> It's just called communication and it's 10632 06:05:18,070 --> 06:05:18,080 » It's just called communication and it's 10633 06:05:18,080 --> 06:05:20,718 We all today, 10634 06:05:20,718 --> 06:05:22,868 >> it's just communication. And I know you 10635 06:05:22,868 --> 06:05:22,878 » it's just communication. And I know you 10636 06:05:22,878 --> 06:05:24,638 don't like us, but it's communication. 10637 06:05:24,638 --> 06:05:26,070 >> No, I like communication. 10638 06:05:26,070 --> 06:05:26,080 » No, I like communication. 10639 06:05:26,080 --> 06:05:27,830 >> No, us, not us. 10640 06:05:27,830 --> 06:05:27,840 » No, us, not us. 10641 06:05:27,840 --> 06:05:30,390 >> No, I you know, it's like I invited 10642 06:05:30,390 --> 06:05:30,400 » No, I you know, it's like I invited 10643 06:05:30,400 --> 06:05:32,080 every one of you to meet with me 10644 06:05:32,080 --> 06:05:34,000 developing this budget over three weeks 10645 06:05:34,000 --> 06:05:38,320 ago. No one took wanted to meet 10646 06:05:38,320 --> 06:05:39,590 >> because that's not normal to meet 10647 06:05:39,590 --> 06:05:39,600 » because that's not normal to meet 10648 06:05:39,600 --> 06:05:40,240 individually. 10649 06:05:40,240 --> 06:05:41,270 >> It is. It's not. 10650 06:05:41,270 --> 06:05:41,280 » It is. It's not. 10651 06:05:41,280 --> 06:05:43,990 >> It is. Madam, you're two months old in 10652 06:05:43,990 --> 06:05:44,000 » It is. Madam, you're two months old in 10653 06:05:44,000 --> 06:05:45,360 this whole process. How do you 10654 06:05:45,360 --> 06:05:47,750 >> I've never once in eight years met with 10655 06:05:47,750 --> 06:05:47,760 » I've never once in eight years met with 10656 06:05:47,760 --> 06:05:48,558 Bob Golden. 10657 06:05:48,558 --> 06:05:51,350 >> But you were never invited. But I there 10658 06:05:51,350 --> 06:05:51,360 » But you were never invited. But I there 10659 06:05:51,360 --> 06:05:52,798 is nothing wrong. There's nothing 10660 06:05:52,798 --> 06:05:54,000 illegal about it. 10661 06:05:54,000 --> 06:05:56,628 >> And what was the responsible 10662 06:05:56,628 --> 06:05:56,638 » And what was the responsible 10663 06:05:56,638 --> 06:05:58,310 >> practices being transparent? 10664 06:05:58,310 --> 06:05:58,320 » practices being transparent? 10665 06:05:58,320 --> 06:05:59,910 >> It was not being transparent. 10666 06:05:59,910 --> 06:05:59,920 » It was not being transparent. 10667 06:05:59,920 --> 06:06:01,830 >> Correct. That's what my email said. 10668 06:06:01,830 --> 06:06:01,840 » Correct. That's what my email said. 10669 06:06:01,840 --> 06:06:04,230 >> Maybe this meeting that the group of you 10670 06:06:04,230 --> 06:06:04,240 » Maybe this meeting that the group of you 10671 06:06:04,240 --> 06:06:06,718 had three weeks ago or whenever it was 10672 06:06:06,718 --> 06:06:08,320 that I walked in on 10673 06:06:08,320 --> 06:06:09,590 >> that's not transparent. 10674 06:06:09,590 --> 06:06:09,600 » that's not transparent. 10675 06:06:09,600 --> 06:06:10,948 >> That you joined you were part of as 10676 06:06:10,948 --> 06:06:10,958 » That you joined you were part of as 10677 06:06:10,958 --> 06:06:12,718 well. There were respectfully there were 10678 06:06:12,718 --> 06:06:13,920 two council members and 10679 06:06:13,920 --> 06:06:14,868 >> say anything about it. 10680 06:06:14,868 --> 06:06:14,878 » say anything about it. 10681 06:06:14,878 --> 06:06:16,310 >> There were two council members and we 10682 06:06:16,310 --> 06:06:16,320 » There were two council members and we 10683 06:06:16,320 --> 06:06:18,320 reserved the boardroom so it was quite 10684 06:06:18,320 --> 06:06:18,958 transparent. 10685 06:06:18,958 --> 06:06:20,470 >> I was never given the courtesy of the 10686 06:06:20,470 --> 06:06:20,480 » I was never given the courtesy of the 10687 06:06:20,480 --> 06:06:22,240 budget but you it's not required. 10688 06:06:22,240 --> 06:06:23,590 >> It was there was they were talking about 10689 06:06:23,590 --> 06:06:23,600 » It was there was they were talking about 10690 06:06:23,600 --> 06:06:26,400 these projects that were but it's about 10691 06:06:26,400 --> 06:06:27,600 the budget. 10692 06:06:27,600 --> 06:06:30,548 >> No projects were being considered for 10693 06:06:30,548 --> 06:06:30,558 » No projects were being considered for 10694 06:06:30,558 --> 06:06:33,120 you when we first saw the 10ear plan for 10695 06:06:33,120 --> 06:06:33,600 the first time. 10696 06:06:33,600 --> 06:06:36,230 >> I see the adversity to the library or 10697 06:06:36,230 --> 06:06:36,240 » I see the adversity to the library or 10698 06:06:36,240 --> 06:06:39,280 anything else. So I won't may I probably 10699 06:06:39,280 --> 06:06:43,360 s even say anything about the need for 10700 06:06:43,360 --> 06:06:46,958 the community center and pavilion as to 10701 06:06:46,958 --> 06:06:50,080 what that opens up. You know one of the 10702 06:06:50,080 --> 06:06:55,280 things that I think is being ignored is 10703 06:06:55,280 --> 06:06:58,000 both the social and cultural needs of 10704 06:06:58,000 --> 06:07:01,360 asset over 1 million 1.1 million towards 10705 06:07:01,360 --> 06:07:05,200 a park. the parks is not uh you know 10706 06:07:05,200 --> 06:07:08,878 that's that's a recreational type thing. 10707 06:07:08,878 --> 06:07:13,840 I'm talking about somewhere for uh the 10708 06:07:13,840 --> 06:07:19,760 cultural and social interaction and the 10709 06:07:19,760 --> 06:07:23,600 a community center 10710 06:07:23,600 --> 06:07:24,718 better than this. 10711 06:07:24,718 --> 06:07:27,750 >> I don't think anyone say a pavilion 10712 06:07:27,750 --> 06:07:27,760 » I don't think anyone say a pavilion 10713 06:07:27,760 --> 06:07:29,680 serves that very purpose. then you're 10714 06:07:29,680 --> 06:07:31,760 actually growing community. 10715 06:07:31,760 --> 06:07:33,430 >> I I agree with you on the community 10716 06:07:33,430 --> 06:07:33,440 » I I agree with you on the community 10717 06:07:33,440 --> 06:07:34,958 center and I don't think anybody is 10718 06:07:34,958 --> 06:07:36,558 saying no to a community center. We're 10719 06:07:36,558 --> 06:07:38,480 saying and they even said this to me on 10720 06:07:38,480 --> 06:07:40,718 the town hall. It's we need to update 10721 06:07:40,718 --> 06:07:43,040 our strategic plan 10722 06:07:43,040 --> 06:07:45,110 >> before we start budgeting for these 10723 06:07:45,110 --> 06:07:45,120 » before we start budgeting for these 10724 06:07:45,120 --> 06:07:47,040 larger projects and focus on the road. 10725 06:07:47,040 --> 06:07:49,350 >> We have to update your strategic plan. I 10726 06:07:49,350 --> 06:07:49,360 » We have to update your strategic plan. I 10727 06:07:49,360 --> 06:07:50,400 haven't heard that conversation. 10728 06:07:50,400 --> 06:07:51,990 >> We talked about it in a city council 10729 06:07:51,990 --> 06:07:52,000 » We talked about it in a city council 10730 06:07:52,000 --> 06:07:55,280 meeting. I heard that you want to 10731 06:07:55,280 --> 06:07:55,830 >> and 10732 06:07:55,830 --> 06:07:55,840 » and 10733 06:07:55,840 --> 06:07:57,030 >> but I haven't [laughter] heard any 10734 06:07:57,030 --> 06:07:57,040 » but I haven't [laughter] heard any 10735 06:07:57,040 --> 06:08:00,320 somebody come out and say the city 10736 06:08:00,320 --> 06:08:01,360 citizens want to 10737 06:08:01,360 --> 06:08:03,910 >> and the number one item anyway is 10738 06:08:03,910 --> 06:08:03,920 » and the number one item anyway is 10739 06:08:03,920 --> 06:08:05,990 >> and mayor Hollyy and the number one item 10740 06:08:05,990 --> 06:08:06,000 » and mayor Hollyy and the number one item 10741 06:08:06,000 --> 06:08:07,840 is a is a rec center. So that is a that 10742 06:08:07,840 --> 06:08:09,280 is a need from the citizens. I don't 10743 06:08:09,280 --> 06:08:10,558 know about community center but 10744 06:08:10,558 --> 06:08:12,708 >> a rec center rec center is number one 10745 06:08:12,708 --> 06:08:12,718 » a rec center rec center is number one 10746 06:08:12,718 --> 06:08:14,150 >> and I even offered that we could build a 10747 06:08:14,150 --> 06:08:14,160 » and I even offered that we could build a 10748 06:08:14,160 --> 06:08:15,920 rec center with a community meeting 10749 06:08:15,920 --> 06:08:17,040 space in it 10750 06:08:17,040 --> 06:08:20,628 >> on the 76 acres. Well, you know, this 10751 06:08:20,628 --> 06:08:20,638 » on the 76 acres. Well, you know, this 10752 06:08:20,638 --> 06:08:24,480 community center and pavilion total is 10753 06:08:24,480 --> 06:08:26,390 >> $3 million or less. 10754 06:08:26,390 --> 06:08:26,400 » $3 million or less. 10755 06:08:26,400 --> 06:08:29,030 >> You mean the one we've already the 10756 06:08:29,030 --> 06:08:29,040 » You mean the one we've already the 10757 06:08:29,040 --> 06:08:30,400 pricing of it 10758 06:08:30,400 --> 06:08:33,430 >> and that is 10759 06:08:33,430 --> 06:08:33,440 » and that is 10760 06:08:33,440 --> 06:08:34,628 >> You mean the one that you try to get the 10761 06:08:34,628 --> 06:08:34,638 » You mean the one that you try to get the 10762 06:08:34,638 --> 06:08:36,080 federal government to pay for with your 10763 06:08:36,080 --> 06:08:37,760 fraudulent application? 10764 06:08:37,760 --> 06:08:40,708 >> Okay. Can Can we get back on task? We're 10765 06:08:40,708 --> 06:08:40,718 » Okay. Can Can we get back on task? We're 10766 06:08:40,718 --> 06:08:42,638 saying no to the library. 10767 06:08:42,638 --> 06:08:43,430 >> You are. 10768 06:08:43,430 --> 06:08:43,440 » You are. 10769 06:08:43,440 --> 06:08:45,270 >> I read the application. You put on here 10770 06:08:45,270 --> 06:08:45,280 » I read the application. You put on here 10771 06:08:45,280 --> 06:08:46,958 that we're a food desert and there were 10772 06:08:46,958 --> 06:08:49,120 economically depressed. I was advised to 10773 06:08:49,120 --> 06:08:51,280 put that on there at that time. You know 10774 06:08:51,280 --> 06:08:53,920 what a the definition of food does? 10775 06:08:53,920 --> 06:08:55,270 >> Actually, I do. Did you know I used to 10776 06:08:55,270 --> 06:08:55,280 » Actually, I do. Did you know I used to 10777 06:08:55,280 --> 06:08:56,798 do a whole history? 10778 06:08:56,798 --> 06:08:59,590 >> One, there was two parts to it. One was 10779 06:08:59,590 --> 06:08:59,600 » One, there was two parts to it. One was 10780 06:08:59,600 --> 06:09:01,200 distance to a grocery store. 10781 06:09:01,200 --> 06:09:01,590 >> Uhhuh. 10782 06:09:01,590 --> 06:09:01,600 » Uhhuh. 10783 06:09:01,600 --> 06:09:03,590 >> And we were greater than a mile. 10784 06:09:03,590 --> 06:09:03,600 » And we were greater than a mile. 10785 06:09:03,600 --> 06:09:06,470 >> But everybody here has greater 10786 06:09:06,470 --> 06:09:06,480 » But everybody here has greater 10787 06:09:06,480 --> 06:09:08,310 >> access by car. 10788 06:09:08,310 --> 06:09:08,320 » access by car. 10789 06:09:08,320 --> 06:09:10,948 >> It was according to definition. 10790 06:09:10,948 --> 06:09:10,958 » It was according to definition. 10791 06:09:10,958 --> 06:09:12,948 >> The definition is a food desert where 10792 06:09:12,948 --> 06:09:12,958 » The definition is a food desert where 10793 06:09:12,958 --> 06:09:14,718 people don't have access, can't get 10794 06:09:14,718 --> 06:09:17,280 there. Not just a grocery store. There's 10795 06:09:17,280 --> 06:09:18,638 a federal definition of that. 10796 06:09:18,638 --> 06:09:20,070 >> Uhhuh. I know very well the federal 10797 06:09:20,070 --> 06:09:20,080 » Uhhuh. I know very well the federal 10798 06:09:20,080 --> 06:09:22,958 definition of order in my previous loss. 10799 06:09:22,958 --> 06:09:23,590 >> Thank you very much. 10800 06:09:23,590 --> 06:09:23,600 » Thank you very much. 10801 06:09:23,600 --> 06:09:25,510 >> I'm asking for a point of order. I'm 10802 06:09:25,510 --> 06:09:25,520 » I'm asking for a point of order. I'm 10803 06:09:25,520 --> 06:09:27,280 asking for a point of order, please. 10804 06:09:27,280 --> 06:09:28,230 >> Point of order. 10805 06:09:28,230 --> 06:09:28,240 » Point of order. 10806 06:09:28,240 --> 06:09:31,190 >> Yes. Can we just get back to the agenda? 10807 06:09:31,190 --> 06:09:31,200 » Yes. Can we just get back to the agenda? 10808 06:09:31,200 --> 06:09:33,110 >> Just get back to the budget. Can we get 10809 06:09:33,110 --> 06:09:33,120 » Just get back to the budget. Can we get 10810 06:09:33,120 --> 06:09:39,190 >> So, um the community center and it's a 10811 06:09:39,190 --> 06:09:39,200 » So, um the community center and it's a 10812 06:09:39,200 --> 06:09:41,840 social and cultural gathering place. It 10813 06:09:41,840 --> 06:09:44,400 can be done very inexpensively and 10814 06:09:44,400 --> 06:09:46,638 you're bringing together. We have, you 10815 06:09:46,638 --> 06:09:48,798 know, people move into House of Texas 10816 06:09:48,798 --> 06:09:52,240 not just from other cities but from 10817 06:09:52,240 --> 06:09:54,798 other states and from other countries. 10818 06:09:54,798 --> 06:09:58,558 We got a diversity of culture here in 10819 06:09:58,558 --> 06:09:59,760 Hassllet 10820 06:09:59,760 --> 06:10:04,230 >> and we do very little if anything to try 10821 06:10:04,230 --> 06:10:04,240 » and we do very little if anything to try 10822 06:10:04,240 --> 06:10:08,000 to bring these people together. Now I we 10823 06:10:08,000 --> 06:10:10,240 might individually meet and know these 10824 06:10:10,240 --> 06:10:13,040 people. I do. And but to be able to 10825 06:10:13,040 --> 06:10:16,480 provide a a 10826 06:10:16,480 --> 06:10:19,280 a a venue where they can come together 10827 06:10:19,280 --> 06:10:21,840 and interact 10828 06:10:21,840 --> 06:10:26,320 uh not being a u fourth of July thing 10829 06:10:26,320 --> 06:10:29,040 but just regularly in a facility that 10830 06:10:29,040 --> 06:10:31,760 the people can use. This is for the 10831 06:10:31,760 --> 06:10:33,760 people. 10832 06:10:33,760 --> 06:10:36,080 I would strongly urge you to consider 10833 06:10:36,080 --> 06:10:38,320 this. $3 million for that kind of 10834 06:10:38,320 --> 06:10:41,120 facility 10835 06:10:41,120 --> 06:10:44,878 is very inexpensive and would reap great 10836 06:10:44,878 --> 06:10:46,160 rewards. 10837 06:10:46,160 --> 06:10:49,590 >> I I I 100% agree thousand% we need 10838 06:10:49,590 --> 06:10:49,600 » I I I 100% agree thousand% we need 10839 06:10:49,600 --> 06:10:51,120 something bigger than this and with all 10840 06:10:51,120 --> 06:10:53,360 the stuff that goes on in here but right 10841 06:10:53,360 --> 06:10:55,120 now what is more important community 10842 06:10:55,120 --> 06:10:56,718 center or updating our infrastructure 10843 06:10:56,718 --> 06:10:59,680 and our roads? Amen. I would take that 10844 06:10:59,680 --> 06:11:01,680 off. I think I think if you asked people 10845 06:11:01,680 --> 06:11:04,400 in the city if you put a poll on on our 10846 06:11:04,400 --> 06:11:06,000 website or anywhere else you said what's 10847 06:11:06,000 --> 06:11:07,120 more important right now community 10848 06:11:07,120 --> 06:11:09,040 center or fixing infrastructure on our 10849 06:11:09,040 --> 06:11:11,520 roads that would be overwhelming. 10850 06:11:11,520 --> 06:11:13,830 >> I'm not asking to trade anything off of 10851 06:11:13,830 --> 06:11:13,840 » I'm not asking to trade anything off of 10852 06:11:13,840 --> 06:11:14,480 this. 10853 06:11:14,480 --> 06:11:16,150 >> Everybody on here thinks that we need a 10854 06:11:16,150 --> 06:11:16,160 » Everybody on here thinks that we need a 10855 06:11:16,160 --> 06:11:17,680 community center. I'm pretty sure 10856 06:11:17,680 --> 06:11:18,230 >> or rec center. 10857 06:11:18,230 --> 06:11:18,240 » or rec center. 10858 06:11:18,240 --> 06:11:19,510 >> A rec center. 10859 06:11:19,510 --> 06:11:19,520 » A rec center. 10860 06:11:19,520 --> 06:11:22,150 >> But we we we need to work on our roads. 10861 06:11:22,150 --> 06:11:22,160 » But we we we need to work on our roads. 10862 06:11:22,160 --> 06:11:24,480 Like right now we want to fully 10863 06:11:24,480 --> 06:11:27,350 >> Mr. Gilbert. I'm not proposing to 10864 06:11:27,350 --> 06:11:27,360 » Mr. Gilbert. I'm not proposing to 10865 06:11:27,360 --> 06:11:29,920 eliminate any infrastructure projects. 10866 06:11:29,920 --> 06:11:32,638 those projects weren't on the bud in the 10867 06:11:32,638 --> 06:11:34,958 budget. So now we're adding those in and 10868 06:11:34,958 --> 06:11:36,878 that's going to be a significant cost 10869 06:11:36,878 --> 06:11:37,920 that wasn't budgeted. 10870 06:11:37,920 --> 06:11:39,910 >> I'd rather take those road projects. 10871 06:11:39,910 --> 06:11:39,920 » I'd rather take those road projects. 10872 06:11:39,920 --> 06:11:41,110 >> It was budgeted. 10873 06:11:41,110 --> 06:11:41,120 » It was budgeted. 10874 06:11:41,120 --> 06:11:42,470 >> You didn't put $1. 10875 06:11:42,470 --> 06:11:42,480 » You didn't put $1. 10876 06:11:42,480 --> 06:11:43,030 >> No, there was not. 10877 06:11:43,030 --> 06:11:43,040 » No, there was not. 10878 06:11:43,040 --> 06:11:44,390 >> You didn't put $1 towards road 10879 06:11:44,390 --> 06:11:44,400 » You didn't put $1 towards road 10880 06:11:44,400 --> 06:11:46,000 improvements 10881 06:11:46,000 --> 06:11:49,030 >> in your budget. We went with uh the 10882 06:11:49,030 --> 06:11:49,040 » in your budget. We went with uh the 10883 06:11:49,040 --> 06:11:51,520 three-year plan, four-year plan that Mr. 10884 06:11:51,520 --> 06:11:52,558 Swanky or 10885 06:11:52,558 --> 06:11:54,150 >> No, we didn't because several items were 10886 06:11:54,150 --> 06:11:54,160 » No, we didn't because several items were 10887 06:11:54,160 --> 06:11:54,558 missing. 10888 06:11:54,558 --> 06:11:56,470 >> There's not $1. There's some repair in 10889 06:11:56,470 --> 06:11:56,480 » There's not $1. There's some repair in 10890 06:11:56,480 --> 06:11:58,160 here, but there's not $1 for expanding 10891 06:11:58,160 --> 06:12:00,320 anything in in this budget. I'd rather 10892 06:12:00,320 --> 06:12:01,680 take that 3 million right now that 10893 06:12:01,680 --> 06:12:03,360 you're I love a community ser. I'd 10894 06:12:03,360 --> 06:12:05,520 rather take that 3 million go almost 10895 06:12:05,520 --> 06:12:10,320 fully fund the um uh John Day road or 10896 06:12:10,320 --> 06:12:11,360 put it towards our public worship 10897 06:12:11,360 --> 06:12:12,558 building. I'd rather take that money and 10898 06:12:12,558 --> 06:12:13,840 put it towards that something we really 10899 06:12:13,840 --> 06:12:15,280 need right now versus the community 10900 06:12:15,280 --> 06:12:16,320 center. Let's do the community center in 10901 06:12:16,320 --> 06:12:17,920 two years next year. I mean like let's 10902 06:12:17,920 --> 06:12:18,480 put it 10903 06:12:18,480 --> 06:12:20,310 >> another question I had on the on the 10904 06:12:20,310 --> 06:12:20,320 » another question I had on the on the 10905 06:12:20,320 --> 06:12:21,840 library as well is where's the location 10906 06:12:21,840 --> 06:12:23,440 for this proposed um 10907 06:12:23,440 --> 06:12:23,990 >> community center 10908 06:12:23,990 --> 06:12:24,000 » community center 10909 06:12:24,000 --> 06:12:25,510 >> facility? It might be on her property 10910 06:12:25,510 --> 06:12:25,520 » facility? It might be on her property 10911 06:12:25,520 --> 06:12:25,760 again. 10912 06:12:25,760 --> 06:12:27,830 >> It' be right off of schoolhouse road. 10913 06:12:27,830 --> 06:12:27,840 » It' be right off of schoolhouse road. 10914 06:12:27,840 --> 06:12:29,280 It's on the 76 acres. 10915 06:12:29,280 --> 06:12:29,990 >> Oh, the same. 10916 06:12:29,990 --> 06:12:30,000 » Oh, the same. 10917 06:12:30,000 --> 06:12:30,948 >> The 76 acres. 10918 06:12:30,948 --> 06:12:30,958 » The 76 acres. 10919 06:12:30,958 --> 06:12:31,990 >> This was originally his community 10920 06:12:31,990 --> 06:12:32,000 » This was originally his community 10921 06:12:32,000 --> 06:12:32,480 garden. 10922 06:12:32,480 --> 06:12:32,708 >> Okay. 10923 06:12:32,708 --> 06:12:32,718 » Okay. 10924 06:12:32,718 --> 06:12:34,310 >> I think we all just concurred that we're 10925 06:12:34,310 --> 06:12:34,320 » I think we all just concurred that we're 10926 06:12:34,320 --> 06:12:35,920 going to take this next year to do the 10927 06:12:35,920 --> 06:12:37,600 strategic plan. Tanya already brought it 10928 06:12:37,600 --> 06:12:40,638 forward. We are moving forward on that. 10929 06:12:40,638 --> 06:12:43,270 >> Get a vision for the city as a whole 10930 06:12:43,270 --> 06:12:43,280 » Get a vision for the city as a whole 10931 06:12:43,280 --> 06:12:45,280 because none of us speaks for the entire 10932 06:12:45,280 --> 06:12:47,920 city. We all together speak for the city 10933 06:12:47,920 --> 06:12:50,718 and see where that aligns at the end of 10934 06:12:50,718 --> 06:12:52,320 the year and consider these projects 10935 06:12:52,320 --> 06:12:53,360 next year. 10936 06:12:53,360 --> 06:12:55,110 >> Yeah, we all agree it's something we 10937 06:12:55,110 --> 06:12:55,120 » Yeah, we all agree it's something we 10938 06:12:55,120 --> 06:12:56,638 need. We're not against that. We we 10939 06:12:56,638 --> 06:12:58,320 agree with you on that, but right now 10940 06:12:58,320 --> 06:13:01,280 there's other things we need to to do. 10941 06:13:01,280 --> 06:13:03,670 >> Well, I appreciate y'all taking the time 10942 06:13:03,670 --> 06:13:03,680 » Well, I appreciate y'all taking the time 10943 06:13:03,680 --> 06:13:07,120 and letting me tell you express to why I 10944 06:13:07,120 --> 06:13:09,760 think we need it. 10945 06:13:09,760 --> 06:13:12,160 I appreciate that. Thank you very much 10946 06:13:12,160 --> 06:13:13,600 all of you. 10947 06:13:13,600 --> 06:13:14,708 >> No problem. 10948 06:13:14,708 --> 06:13:14,718 » No problem. 10949 06:13:14,718 --> 06:13:15,270 >> Can we 10950 06:13:15,270 --> 06:13:15,280 » Can we 10951 06:13:15,280 --> 06:13:19,350 >> All right. Given that please 10952 06:13:19,350 --> 06:13:19,360 » All right. Given that please 10953 06:13:19,360 --> 06:13:24,788 >> let's uh the next aspects of our agenda 10954 06:13:24,788 --> 06:13:24,798 » let's uh the next aspects of our agenda 10955 06:13:24,798 --> 06:13:31,430 tax rate. 10956 06:13:31,440 --> 06:13:33,920 Oh, updated updated paper coming. 10957 06:13:33,920 --> 06:13:36,310 >> And if we could I've been meaning to do 10958 06:13:36,310 --> 06:13:36,320 » And if we could I've been meaning to do 10959 06:13:36,320 --> 06:13:38,958 this for the last hour. Seriously, is 10960 06:13:38,958 --> 06:13:42,638 take a five minute break, please. 10961 06:13:42,638 --> 06:13:46,878 So, I recess the uh this open session at 10962 06:13:46,878 --> 06:13:50,480 3:02 p.m. 10963 06:13:50,480 --> 06:13:51,910 >> Marcy. [clears throat] 10964 06:13:51,910 --> 06:13:51,920 » Marcy. [clears throat] 10965 06:13:51,920 --> 06:13:53,270 >> Marcy, 10966 06:13:53,270 --> 06:13:53,280 » Marcy, 10967 06:13:53,280 --> 06:13:54,708 >> how long do you think this will take? 10968 06:13:54,708 --> 06:13:54,718 » how long do you think this will take? 10969 06:13:54,718 --> 06:21:58,470 All right. 10970 06:21:58,480 --> 06:22:02,320 the 750. Yeah. Okay. And the 20 there 10971 06:22:02,320 --> 06:22:06,320 and the Yeah. 660 70 there. Okay. Okay. 10972 06:22:06,320 --> 06:22:47,430 Yeah. Okay. Thank 10973 06:22:47,440 --> 06:23:34,628 Are we off break yet? 10974 06:23:34,638 --> 06:23:36,320 I remember James talking about the John 10975 06:23:36,320 --> 06:23:39,280 Deere. 10976 06:23:39,280 --> 06:23:46,948 >> It was on another 10977 06:23:46,958 --> 06:23:48,480 » Tanya said that we didn't we talked 10978 06:23:48,480 --> 06:23:50,160 about your John Deere equipment and 10979 06:23:50,160 --> 06:23:51,360 stuff that you needed, but didn't we 10980 06:23:51,360 --> 06:23:53,280 approve that last week? 10981 06:23:53,280 --> 06:23:54,788 >> Uh there wasn't any comment on it. There 10982 06:23:54,788 --> 06:23:54,798 » Uh there wasn't any comment on it. There 10983 06:23:54,798 --> 06:23:56,480 was two capital requests. 10984 06:23:56,480 --> 06:23:57,670 >> It's already in the budget. 10985 06:23:57,670 --> 06:23:57,680 » It's already in the budget. 10986 06:23:57,680 --> 06:24:06,868 >> Okay. 10987 06:24:06,878 --> 06:24:10,638 But I don't think we talked about 10988 06:24:10,638 --> 06:24:14,230 >> open session at 3:13 p.m. 10989 06:24:14,230 --> 06:24:14,240 » open session at 3:13 p.m. 10990 06:24:14,240 --> 06:24:22,708 I need to add 10991 06:24:22,718 --> 06:24:26,480 one last item. I need to now the capital 10992 06:24:26,480 --> 06:24:29,760 request that we have 10993 06:24:29,760 --> 06:24:32,240 is already included in the budget. That 10994 06:24:32,240 --> 06:24:34,480 was just very short period of time. Mr. 10995 06:24:34,480 --> 06:24:37,520 Tucker is working on a 10year plan for 10996 06:24:37,520 --> 06:24:39,360 capital. 10997 06:24:39,360 --> 06:24:44,240 But what I do have is a fire department 10998 06:24:44,240 --> 06:24:47,360 request that stands over the 10 years. 10999 06:24:47,360 --> 06:24:49,840 This being this first column here being 11000 06:24:49,840 --> 06:24:52,480 2026 11001 06:24:52,480 --> 06:24:54,558 U 11002 06:24:54,558 --> 06:24:56,638 and 11003 06:24:56,638 --> 06:25:01,120 for the 10 years that would be out to 11004 06:25:01,120 --> 06:25:03,920 3637 11005 06:25:03,920 --> 06:25:07,440 is $5.8 million. 11006 06:25:07,440 --> 06:25:09,110 >> Can you zoom out so we can see the 11007 06:25:09,110 --> 06:25:09,120 » Can you zoom out so we can see the 11008 06:25:09,120 --> 06:25:11,200 titles? They're kind of the apparatus. 11009 06:25:11,200 --> 06:25:13,030 >> What do you want to see? If you zoom out 11010 06:25:13,030 --> 06:25:13,040 » What do you want to see? If you zoom out 11011 06:25:13,040 --> 06:25:15,280 one right here, we should be able to see 11012 06:25:15,280 --> 06:25:18,000 the titles over on the left. 11013 06:25:18,000 --> 06:25:19,830 >> Yes. 11014 06:25:19,830 --> 06:25:19,840 » Yes. 11015 06:25:19,840 --> 06:25:22,548 >> Scroll to the left. 11016 06:25:22,548 --> 06:25:22,558 » Scroll to the left. 11017 06:25:22,558 --> 06:25:24,470 >> Column A is a fully. There you go. Thank 11018 06:25:24,470 --> 06:25:24,480 » Column A is a fully. There you go. Thank 11019 06:25:24,480 --> 06:25:25,440 you. 11020 06:25:25,440 --> 06:25:27,030 >> So, 11021 06:25:27,030 --> 06:25:27,040 » So, 11022 06:25:27,040 --> 06:25:29,840 uh, with regard to fire and medical 11023 06:25:29,840 --> 06:25:34,558 equipment, uh, rescue, uh, equipment, 11024 06:25:34,558 --> 06:25:37,840 uh, here's the projections out the 11025 06:25:37,840 --> 06:25:39,760 highlighted here. I just that's 10 11026 06:25:39,760 --> 06:25:42,958 years. He's actually got it out. 11027 06:25:42,958 --> 06:25:46,000 But for this 10 years here, 11028 06:25:46,000 --> 06:25:50,878 uh these are uh projected out 11029 06:25:50,878 --> 06:25:52,240 those are things that need to be 11030 06:25:52,240 --> 06:25:54,080 replaced. These are scheduled 11031 06:25:54,080 --> 06:25:58,480 replacements that that have to occur and 11032 06:25:58,480 --> 06:26:02,798 he is uh has taken due diligence to make 11033 06:26:02,798 --> 06:26:06,480 things last as long as he can. 11034 06:26:06,480 --> 06:26:16,230 Uh fire uh 11035 06:26:16,240 --> 06:26:18,320 Yes. 10,500. 11036 06:26:18,320 --> 06:26:21,750 >> Yeah. And uh radio that's in our budget. 11037 06:26:21,750 --> 06:26:21,760 » Yeah. And uh radio that's in our budget. 11038 06:26:21,760 --> 06:26:23,270 >> That's that that's what we hadn't talked 11039 06:26:23,270 --> 06:26:23,280 » That's that that's what we hadn't talked 11040 06:26:23,280 --> 06:26:25,120 about. The 41,000. I have no problems 11041 06:26:25,120 --> 06:26:26,080 with those. 11042 06:26:26,080 --> 06:26:28,628 >> Dang it. 11043 06:26:28,628 --> 06:26:28,638 » Dang it. 11044 06:26:28,638 --> 06:26:32,390 >> That's a rollover from the current year. 11045 06:26:32,390 --> 06:26:32,400 » That's a rollover from the current year. 11046 06:26:32,400 --> 06:27:28,708 >> Yes. 11047 06:27:28,718 --> 06:27:30,080 Can I 11048 06:27:30,080 --> 06:27:33,430 >> the 11049 06:27:33,440 --> 06:27:35,680 Mr. Mayor? You're not uh your light's 11050 06:27:35,680 --> 06:27:37,840 not green. Nobody can hear you. 11051 06:27:37,840 --> 06:27:39,990 >> There you are. 11052 06:27:39,990 --> 06:27:40,000 » There you are. 11053 06:27:40,000 --> 06:27:42,958 Anyway, uh to uh for recording, we just 11054 06:27:42,958 --> 06:27:46,080 covered the uh fire department 10-year 11055 06:27:46,080 --> 06:27:48,878 outlook on their replacement of planned 11056 06:27:48,878 --> 06:27:52,080 replacement cost uh for the 10 years is 11057 06:27:52,080 --> 06:27:54,878 $5.8 million. 11058 06:27:54,878 --> 06:27:57,520 Uh council, we'll get you a copy of this 11059 06:27:57,520 --> 06:28:00,478 information. Yes. 11060 06:28:00,478 --> 06:28:03,280 Um I think we mentioned something last 11061 06:28:03,280 --> 06:28:06,320 week about that the fire fire engines 11062 06:28:06,320 --> 06:28:07,760 that we need to replace them every like 11063 06:28:07,760 --> 06:28:10,240 10 years. Is that is that correct? And I 11064 06:28:10,240 --> 06:28:11,760 think we mentioned last week that 11065 06:28:11,760 --> 06:28:14,638 they're like at their 10 year mark. Is 11066 06:28:14,638 --> 06:28:16,478 that correct or is that 11067 06:28:16,478 --> 06:28:20,868 >> So a engine will last us about 15 years. 11068 06:28:20,868 --> 06:28:20,878 » So a engine will last us about 15 years. 11069 06:28:20,878 --> 06:28:23,600 We're we're slower than most busier 11070 06:28:23,600 --> 06:28:25,440 departments. So we're going to last 11071 06:28:25,440 --> 06:28:27,280 longer than like city of Fort Worth is 11072 06:28:27,280 --> 06:28:28,798 going to last. So I believe in this one 11073 06:28:28,798 --> 06:28:31,280 I projected a 12-year replacement 11074 06:28:31,280 --> 06:28:34,390 >> on the engine and I'm at a 15 11075 06:28:34,390 --> 06:28:34,400 » on the engine and I'm at a 15 11076 06:28:34,400 --> 06:28:36,390 >> year replacement on the ladder truck. 11077 06:28:36,390 --> 06:28:36,400 » year replacement on the ladder truck. 11078 06:28:36,400 --> 06:28:38,558 And so, and I'm trying to estimate 11079 06:28:38,558 --> 06:28:41,040 inflation in these numbers also already 11080 06:28:41,040 --> 06:28:44,320 just to be prepared. I update this 11081 06:28:44,320 --> 06:28:46,558 pretty regularly as I'm looking at wear 11082 06:28:46,558 --> 06:28:49,280 and tear on our apparatus and also as I 11083 06:28:49,280 --> 06:28:51,360 get numbers from neighboring departments 11084 06:28:51,360 --> 06:28:54,080 that are ordering apparatus right now. 11085 06:28:54,080 --> 06:28:55,910 >> Will we ever need three fire engines or 11086 06:28:55,910 --> 06:28:55,920 » Will we ever need three fire engines or 11087 06:28:55,920 --> 06:28:57,440 do you think we'll kind of the way we're 11088 06:28:57,440 --> 06:28:59,680 the way we're looking with two? Do you 11089 06:28:59,680 --> 06:29:01,200 think we're good with a with a regular 11090 06:29:01,200 --> 06:29:02,878 one and a lighter one or do you think 11091 06:29:02,878 --> 06:29:04,320 we'll ever need like two small and one 11092 06:29:04,320 --> 06:29:08,080 big? the uh 11093 06:29:08,080 --> 06:29:10,958 that's where I'll be trying to we we'll 11094 06:29:10,958 --> 06:29:12,558 be talking about that next year when I 11095 06:29:12,558 --> 06:29:14,478 ask about this conversion to a type 11096 06:29:14,478 --> 06:29:17,680 three. It's a small pumping apparatus. 11097 06:29:17,680 --> 06:29:20,878 Um, part of that is it helped preserve 11098 06:29:20,878 --> 06:29:23,280 the life of our larger apparatus and 11099 06:29:23,280 --> 06:29:26,320 other part is if we ever remove 11100 06:29:26,320 --> 06:29:29,120 ourselves from the ESD or if the ESD 11101 06:29:29,120 --> 06:29:31,600 decides to take their current tanker 11102 06:29:31,600 --> 06:29:33,280 back, which is the third large apparatus 11103 06:29:33,280 --> 06:29:36,080 we have in our we would need a another 11104 06:29:36,080 --> 06:29:39,280 vehicle. So, uh, so it's it's planned 11105 06:29:39,280 --> 06:29:41,680 there. Uh, things can move and like I 11106 06:29:41,680 --> 06:29:43,280 said, it gets changed regularly based 11107 06:29:43,280 --> 06:29:44,718 off the needs. 11108 06:29:44,718 --> 06:29:48,548 >> Thanks for clarifying. Yes, sir. 11109 06:29:48,548 --> 06:29:48,558 » Thanks for clarifying. Yes, sir. 11110 06:29:48,558 --> 06:29:51,360 Well, that's the last capital item I 11111 06:29:51,360 --> 06:29:54,958 wanted to make you aware of. 11112 06:29:54,958 --> 06:29:57,190 >> Did we discuss the public works John 11113 06:29:57,190 --> 06:29:57,200 » Did we discuss the public works John 11114 06:29:57,200 --> 06:30:00,080 Deere tractor and the Chevy tracks? 11115 06:30:00,080 --> 06:30:01,670 >> I know we did because it was a third 11116 06:30:01,670 --> 06:30:01,680 » I know we did because it was a third 11117 06:30:01,680 --> 06:30:03,040 over a third of a third or something 11118 06:30:03,040 --> 06:30:03,680 like that. 11119 06:30:03,680 --> 06:30:06,788 >> We did and that was last week. 11120 06:30:06,788 --> 06:30:06,798 » We did and that was last week. 11121 06:30:06,798 --> 06:30:07,830 >> Uh 11122 06:30:07,830 --> 06:30:07,840 » Uh 11123 06:30:07,840 --> 06:30:10,390 >> the two pieces of equipment, the John 11124 06:30:10,390 --> 06:30:10,400 » the two pieces of equipment, the John 11125 06:30:10,400 --> 06:30:13,040 Deere and what was the other piece? 11126 06:30:13,040 --> 06:30:15,190 >> Chevy tracks. So there was well there 11127 06:30:15,190 --> 06:30:15,200 » Chevy tracks. So there was well there 11128 06:30:15,200 --> 06:30:17,920 was one vehicle request which is for our 11129 06:30:17,920 --> 06:30:20,548 >> No, I'm talking there was two of them 11130 06:30:20,548 --> 06:30:20,558 » No, I'm talking there was two of them 11131 06:30:20,558 --> 06:30:22,080 that there was two pieces of equipment 11132 06:30:22,080 --> 06:30:24,478 the uh lease payment option. 11133 06:30:24,478 --> 06:30:27,830 >> Yeah. So there was a backhoe and a large 11134 06:30:27,830 --> 06:30:27,840 » Yeah. So there was a backhoe and a large 11135 06:30:27,840 --> 06:30:30,878 uh enclosed tractor. It's to replace two 11136 06:30:30,878 --> 06:30:34,230 >> are in the budget presently and that is 11137 06:30:34,230 --> 06:30:34,240 » are in the budget presently and that is 11138 06:30:34,240 --> 06:30:36,798 reflected by using the lease purchase 11139 06:30:36,798 --> 06:30:38,160 program. 11140 06:30:38,160 --> 06:30:40,788 >> Perfect. Thank you. 11141 06:30:40,788 --> 06:30:40,798 » Perfect. Thank you. 11142 06:30:40,798 --> 06:30:45,920 the uh janitorial vehicle that uh 11143 06:30:45,920 --> 06:30:49,280 uh Mr. Tucker is speaking of, that's in 11144 06:30:49,280 --> 06:30:52,798 the budget and that's a 11145 06:30:52,798 --> 06:30:54,478 full purchase price, 11146 06:30:54,478 --> 06:30:55,750 >> correct? 11147 06:30:55,750 --> 06:30:55,760 » correct? 11148 06:30:55,760 --> 06:30:58,390 >> I think around $20,000 or something of 11149 06:30:58,390 --> 06:30:58,400 » I think around $20,000 or something of 11150 06:30:58,400 --> 06:31:01,600 that nature. 11151 06:31:01,600 --> 06:31:04,390 >> And that covered all his request. 11152 06:31:04,390 --> 06:31:04,400 » And that covered all his request. 11153 06:31:04,400 --> 06:31:06,070 >> Uh there was also a dump trailer in 11154 06:31:06,070 --> 06:31:06,080 » Uh there was also a dump trailer in 11155 06:31:06,080 --> 06:31:06,878 there as well. 11156 06:31:06,878 --> 06:31:08,390 >> But that's in the budget as well. 11157 06:31:08,390 --> 06:31:08,400 » But that's in the budget as well. 11158 06:31:08,400 --> 06:31:10,788 >> Everything was in the budget. Yeah. 11159 06:31:10,788 --> 06:31:10,798 » Everything was in the budget. Yeah. 11160 06:31:10,798 --> 06:31:14,000 Um, so all of the I'm I think the point 11161 06:31:14,000 --> 06:31:16,080 is all the public works capital 11162 06:31:16,080 --> 06:31:18,638 equipment request are presently in the 11163 06:31:18,638 --> 06:31:21,280 budget. 11164 06:31:21,280 --> 06:31:23,270 >> So, mayor, before we go on to tax rate, 11165 06:31:23,270 --> 06:31:23,280 » So, mayor, before we go on to tax rate, 11166 06:31:23,280 --> 06:31:24,400 there's two things I wanted to go back 11167 06:31:24,400 --> 06:31:26,400 to, which is the water impact fee and 11168 06:31:26,400 --> 06:31:27,840 the sewer impact fee. Yes, 11169 06:31:27,840 --> 06:31:30,070 >> they did pull that up. Um, the water was 11170 06:31:30,070 --> 06:31:30,080 » they did pull that up. Um, the water was 11171 06:31:30,080 --> 06:31:32,558 2,200 and change and you're projecting 11172 06:31:32,558 --> 06:31:34,558 80 households. So, that would mean that 11173 06:31:34,558 --> 06:31:35,600 this number 11174 06:31:35,600 --> 06:31:36,468 >> What page are you on? 11175 06:31:36,468 --> 06:31:36,478 » What page are you on? 11176 06:31:36,478 --> 06:31:38,230 >> I'm so sorry. 223. 11177 06:31:38,230 --> 06:31:38,240 » I'm so sorry. 223. 11178 06:31:38,240 --> 06:31:39,190 >> Thank you. 11179 06:31:39,190 --> 06:31:39,200 » Thank you. 11180 06:31:39,200 --> 06:31:41,120 Um, that does mean that this should be 11181 06:31:41,120 --> 06:31:43,680 more about half of last year's, not a 11182 06:31:43,680 --> 06:31:45,360 fourth, actually a little below a 11183 06:31:45,360 --> 06:31:47,520 fourth. It would be more about the 11184 06:31:47,520 --> 06:31:49,760 245ish 11185 06:31:49,760 --> 06:31:50,478 range. 11186 06:31:50,478 --> 06:31:53,670 >> I'll confirm that calculation 11187 06:31:53,670 --> 06:31:53,680 » I'll confirm that calculation 11188 06:31:53,680 --> 06:31:55,280 Monday 11189 06:31:55,280 --> 06:31:58,080 and uh that correction can still be 11190 06:31:58,080 --> 06:31:58,718 made. 11191 06:31:58,718 --> 06:31:59,910 >> Okay. And same, you'll look into the 11192 06:31:59,910 --> 06:31:59,920 » Okay. And same, you'll look into the 11193 06:31:59,920 --> 06:32:01,040 sewer impact and then 11194 06:32:01,040 --> 06:32:03,590 >> both both impact these. And then going 11195 06:32:03,590 --> 06:32:03,600 » both both impact these. And then going 11196 06:32:03,600 --> 06:32:05,360 back and maybe we look at this after we 11197 06:32:05,360 --> 06:32:07,520 speak taxes, but I I really do want us 11198 06:32:07,520 --> 06:32:09,360 to circle back at some point to page 11199 06:32:09,360 --> 06:32:14,320 193, the 2022 combo tax. 11200 06:32:14,320 --> 06:32:16,878 Um, the one that we're paying more 11201 06:32:16,878 --> 06:32:19,840 interest than we have principal because 11202 06:32:19,840 --> 06:32:22,478 if we paid that off this next year, if 11203 06:32:22,478 --> 06:32:24,478 that's an option, we would literally 11204 06:32:24,478 --> 06:32:27,120 make we'd break even the following year. 11205 06:32:27,120 --> 06:32:29,600 like it would be a significant a very 11206 06:32:29,600 --> 06:32:31,200 quick turnaround to paying that off if 11207 06:32:31,200 --> 06:32:33,360 it's an option to do. So I've just 11208 06:32:33,360 --> 06:32:35,430 >> Did you say pay 223 11209 06:32:35,430 --> 06:32:35,440 » Did you say pay 223 11210 06:32:35,440 --> 06:32:36,628 >> 193 11211 06:32:36,628 --> 06:32:36,638 » 193 11212 06:32:36,638 --> 06:32:38,070 >> 193 11213 06:32:38,070 --> 06:32:38,080 » 193 11214 06:32:38,080 --> 06:32:41,430 >> we have an interest payment of 189,000 11215 06:32:41,430 --> 06:32:41,440 » we have an interest payment of 189,000 11216 06:32:41,440 --> 06:32:45,840 and a principal payment or of 165. What 11217 06:32:45,840 --> 06:32:48,638 is the total on that 11218 06:32:48,638 --> 06:32:54,150 on that item? 11219 06:32:54,160 --> 06:32:56,080 I guess I just realized that's not the 11220 06:32:56,080 --> 06:32:58,160 total amount. 11221 06:32:58,160 --> 06:33:01,430 >> 354, I'm sorry, 860. 11222 06:33:01,430 --> 06:33:01,440 » 354, I'm sorry, 860. 11223 06:33:01,440 --> 06:33:05,270 >> So, I mean, still that's 11224 06:33:05,270 --> 06:33:05,280 » So, I mean, still that's 11225 06:33:05,280 --> 06:33:06,878 so we're supposed to pay this off in two 11226 06:33:06,878 --> 06:33:09,920 years then. 11227 06:33:09,920 --> 06:33:12,788 >> No, no, no. 11228 06:33:12,788 --> 06:33:12,798 » No, no, no. 11229 06:33:12,798 --> 06:33:17,750 >> Okay. Sorry. 11230 06:33:17,760 --> 06:33:18,878 » Oh, because we're paying that much 11231 06:33:18,878 --> 06:33:22,468 interest. Wow. 11232 06:33:22,478 --> 06:33:29,600 So the total due or owed 354 and change 11233 06:33:29,600 --> 06:33:32,160 which we pay that amount in one year 11234 06:33:32,160 --> 06:33:34,000 anyways. 11235 06:33:34,000 --> 06:33:35,600 So we could literally just pay it off 11236 06:33:35,600 --> 06:33:37,920 instead of paying interest. I mean can 11237 06:33:37,920 --> 06:33:39,440 we pay it off? 11238 06:33:39,440 --> 06:33:41,910 >> Uh no 11239 06:33:41,910 --> 06:33:41,920 » Uh no 11240 06:33:41,920 --> 06:33:45,190 pay 11241 06:33:45,200 --> 06:33:47,360 » oh that's 11242 06:33:47,360 --> 06:33:51,840 a million bond issue. So you 11243 06:33:51,840 --> 06:34:01,750 Okay, I see it now. I see it. 11244 06:34:01,760 --> 06:34:03,920 » I thought you were saying we owed 354. 11245 06:34:03,920 --> 06:34:08,390 >> Yeah. On on page 207. So, it's about 15 11246 06:34:08,390 --> 06:34:08,400 » Yeah. On on page 207. So, it's about 15 11247 06:34:08,400 --> 06:34:10,000 million you still owe. 11248 06:34:10,000 --> 06:34:10,390 >> Okay. 11249 06:34:10,390 --> 06:34:10,400 » Okay. 11250 06:34:10,400 --> 06:34:12,310 >> And I don't I don't believe there's a 11251 06:34:12,310 --> 06:34:12,320 » And I don't I don't believe there's a 11252 06:34:12,320 --> 06:34:14,638 call provision quite this soon. 11253 06:34:14,638 --> 06:34:15,910 >> No, you're good. We don't have that type 11254 06:34:15,910 --> 06:34:15,920 » No, you're good. We don't have that type 11255 06:34:15,920 --> 06:34:18,160 of money anyways. I was [laughter] it 11256 06:34:18,160 --> 06:34:20,080 was just now it makes sense why we're 11257 06:34:20,080 --> 06:34:21,360 paying so much in interest. 11258 06:34:21,360 --> 06:34:21,910 >> Yes. 11259 06:34:21,910 --> 06:34:21,920 » Yes. 11260 06:34:21,920 --> 06:34:23,910 >> Cuz it's a significant loan. 11261 06:34:23,910 --> 06:34:23,920 » Cuz it's a significant loan. 11262 06:34:23,920 --> 06:34:25,270 >> Yeah. 11263 06:34:25,270 --> 06:34:25,280 » Yeah. 11264 06:34:25,280 --> 06:34:26,868 >> Does that answer your question on the 11265 06:34:26,868 --> 06:34:26,878 » Does that answer your question on the 11266 06:34:26,878 --> 06:34:27,520 bonds? 11267 06:34:27,520 --> 06:34:30,390 >> It does. Was this the bond pulled for 11268 06:34:30,390 --> 06:34:30,400 » It does. Was this the bond pulled for 11269 06:34:30,400 --> 06:34:31,920 that we were speaking about earlier? 11270 06:34:31,920 --> 06:34:32,788 >> Yeah. 11271 06:34:32,788 --> 06:34:32,798 » Yeah. 11272 06:34:32,798 --> 06:34:35,030 >> This is the bond part of part of the 11273 06:34:35,030 --> 06:34:35,040 » This is the bond part of part of the 11274 06:34:35,040 --> 06:34:38,080 expenditures on the projects are fund 26 11275 06:34:38,080 --> 06:34:41,910 and fund 29. 11276 06:34:41,920 --> 06:34:45,910 » Sorry I am wring that down. 11277 06:34:45,920 --> 06:34:48,320 Can you actually by chance mark that on 11278 06:34:48,320 --> 06:34:49,680 here when you do the final run through 11279 06:34:49,680 --> 06:34:52,718 of here for the bonds? Can you mark the 11280 06:34:52,718 --> 06:34:55,840 funds that the money is in? So like for 11281 06:34:55,840 --> 06:34:58,160 this item on page 207, you said fund 26, 11282 06:34:58,160 --> 06:35:00,558 fund 29. Could you 11283 06:35:00,558 --> 06:35:01,110 >> Yes. 11284 06:35:01,110 --> 06:35:01,120 » Yes. 11285 06:35:01,120 --> 06:35:04,468 >> In 26 she said. 11286 06:35:04,468 --> 06:35:04,478 » In 26 she said. 11287 06:35:04,478 --> 06:35:09,430 >> Yes. the one on um if if you'll look on 11288 06:35:09,430 --> 06:35:09,440 » Yes. the one on um if if you'll look on 11289 06:35:09,440 --> 06:35:12,878 page let's see 11290 06:35:12,878 --> 06:35:15,920 look at the one on page 199 11291 06:35:15,920 --> 06:35:18,478 up at the top it shows tax supported 11292 06:35:18,478 --> 06:35:20,718 2809%. 11293 06:35:20,718 --> 06:35:21,430 >> Mhm. 11294 06:35:21,430 --> 06:35:21,440 » Mhm. 11295 06:35:21,440 --> 06:35:24,548 >> That's the general fund or the the tax 11296 06:35:24,548 --> 06:35:24,558 » That's the general fund or the the tax 11297 06:35:24,558 --> 06:35:25,920 supported piece. 11298 06:35:25,920 --> 06:35:26,310 >> Okay. 11299 06:35:26,310 --> 06:35:26,320 » Okay. 11300 06:35:26,320 --> 06:35:29,590 >> And if you look at 20 page 207 it shows 11301 06:35:29,590 --> 06:35:29,600 » And if you look at 20 page 207 it shows 11302 06:35:29,600 --> 06:35:31,120 71.91. 11303 06:35:31,120 --> 06:35:34,080 That's the water sewer piece. Now, for 11304 06:35:34,080 --> 06:35:36,080 the purpose of the bond issue, that's 11305 06:35:36,080 --> 06:35:38,558 one bond issue. 11306 06:35:38,558 --> 06:35:41,590 >> But since it's being funded separately, 11307 06:35:41,590 --> 06:35:41,600 » But since it's being funded separately, 11308 06:35:41,600 --> 06:35:43,600 we don't put the whole burden on the 11309 06:35:43,600 --> 06:35:46,400 tax. If we put 17 million burden on the 11310 06:35:46,400 --> 06:35:48,638 tax, it would be 11311 06:35:48,638 --> 06:35:50,160 pretty high debt service rate. 11312 06:35:50,160 --> 06:35:51,830 >> No. Understood. Can we just add a little 11313 06:35:51,830 --> 06:35:51,840 » No. Understood. Can we just add a little 11314 06:35:51,840 --> 06:35:53,440 note here so that people that don't 11315 06:35:53,440 --> 06:35:55,120 attend these meetings can understand a 11316 06:35:55,120 --> 06:35:55,600 little bit more? 11317 06:35:55,600 --> 06:35:58,788 >> Yes. The one on page 207 would be fund 11318 06:35:58,788 --> 06:35:58,798 » Yes. The one on page 207 would be fund 11319 06:35:58,798 --> 06:36:00,400 29 11320 06:36:00,400 --> 06:36:05,440 and the one on page 199 is um fund 26. 11321 06:36:05,440 --> 06:36:08,400 And when I say that that's the projects 11322 06:36:08,400 --> 06:36:08,958 that were 11323 06:36:08,958 --> 06:36:09,830 >> correct. 11324 06:36:09,830 --> 06:36:09,840 » correct. 11325 06:36:09,840 --> 06:36:11,590 >> Yeah. Approved for those. 11326 06:36:11,590 --> 06:36:11,600 » Yeah. Approved for those. 11327 06:36:11,600 --> 06:36:15,270 >> Maybe note projects um or bond funds 11328 06:36:15,270 --> 06:36:15,280 » Maybe note projects um or bond funds 11329 06:36:15,280 --> 06:36:17,280 projects under fun 29. 11330 06:36:17,280 --> 06:36:19,510 >> Yes, I can put that. Let me take you 11331 06:36:19,510 --> 06:36:19,520 » Yes, I can put that. Let me take you 11332 06:36:19,520 --> 06:36:24,558 through uh um a little history here on 11333 06:36:24,558 --> 06:36:30,878 this uh on the screen. I have um the 11334 06:36:30,878 --> 06:36:35,280 bond um the 2016 11335 06:36:35,280 --> 06:36:39,200 2020 2016 bonds what that was used for. 11336 06:36:39,200 --> 06:36:42,080 It did refund uh earlier certificates of 11337 06:36:42,080 --> 06:36:44,638 obligation and 11338 06:36:44,638 --> 06:36:46,400 um 11339 06:36:46,400 --> 06:36:52,548 it was 11340 06:36:52,558 --> 06:36:58,948 for water and wastewater projects. 11341 06:36:58,958 --> 06:37:01,760 The 20 11342 06:37:01,760 --> 06:37:06,958 2015 series bonds were issued 11343 06:37:06,958 --> 06:37:11,040 for water and sewer pro improvements 11344 06:37:11,040 --> 06:37:15,360 and ADC's pay portion of that. 11345 06:37:15,360 --> 06:37:18,478 the 20 2016 11346 06:37:18,478 --> 06:37:21,280 series bonds here. The maturity date 11347 06:37:21,280 --> 06:37:24,878 being 2031 was very specifically for the 11348 06:37:24,878 --> 06:37:29,670 ladder truck. 11349 06:37:29,680 --> 06:37:33,680 The 2017 series bonds 11350 06:37:33,680 --> 06:37:38,468 was for the fire engine. 11351 06:37:38,478 --> 06:37:40,718 Uh that wasn't the ladder truck. That 11352 06:37:40,718 --> 06:37:43,280 was just the larger fire engine. Right. 11353 06:37:43,280 --> 06:37:45,270 >> Correct. 11354 06:37:45,270 --> 06:37:45,280 » Correct. 11355 06:37:45,280 --> 06:37:49,840 What what number truck do you call that? 11356 06:37:49,840 --> 06:37:52,868 >> So it's our whole station is station 11357 06:37:52,868 --> 06:37:52,878 » So it's our whole station is station 11358 06:37:52,878 --> 06:37:56,798 128. So it's truck 128 and engine 128. 11359 06:37:56,798 --> 06:37:59,200 It's our two main out apparatus. 11360 06:37:59,200 --> 06:38:00,150 >> Okay. 11361 06:38:00,150 --> 06:38:00,160 » Okay. 11362 06:38:00,160 --> 06:38:04,948 >> So they are fairly new in overall. 11363 06:38:04,948 --> 06:38:04,958 » So they are fairly new in overall. 11364 06:38:04,958 --> 06:38:07,920 uh the 20 2022 11365 06:38:07,920 --> 06:38:11,920 series bonds that was for streets 11366 06:38:11,920 --> 06:38:15,360 and that's the one the $17 million bond 11367 06:38:15,360 --> 06:38:19,360 we've spoke of uh for streets water 11368 06:38:19,360 --> 06:38:22,240 wastewater the fire administration 11369 06:38:22,240 --> 06:38:25,360 expansion that we're working on now and 11370 06:38:25,360 --> 06:38:29,280 also uh Keller Hasslet Road it ends up 11371 06:38:29,280 --> 06:38:31,520 that uh we were net positive on that 11372 06:38:31,520 --> 06:38:34,878 project so we spent no bond money on 11373 06:38:34,878 --> 06:38:38,468 that project. 11374 06:38:38,478 --> 06:38:40,878 Uh 11375 06:38:40,878 --> 06:38:46,400 the 2020 series bonds, type A and type B 11376 06:38:46,400 --> 06:38:50,958 persist participated in and I think that 11377 06:38:50,958 --> 06:38:55,760 was a nominal $3 million a piece. A 11378 06:38:55,760 --> 06:38:58,878 total of $6 million cash put towards 11379 06:38:58,878 --> 06:39:02,558 that project. Uh that's what those that 11380 06:39:02,558 --> 06:39:05,360 uh 2020 series was about. But that's 11381 06:39:05,360 --> 06:39:07,520 just the what these bonds that you're 11382 06:39:07,520 --> 06:39:11,660 looking at what they were used for. 11383 06:39:11,660 --> 06:39:19,510 [snorts] 11384 06:39:19,520 --> 06:39:21,120 » Okay. 11385 06:39:21,120 --> 06:39:22,878 Marcy. 11386 06:39:22,878 --> 06:39:24,868 >> Yes, sir. 11387 06:39:24,868 --> 06:39:24,878 » Yes, sir. 11388 06:39:24,878 --> 06:39:28,558 Right now. Okay. Uh Marcy has put in 11389 06:39:28,558 --> 06:39:30,320 front of you, I believe, on everybody's 11390 06:39:30,320 --> 06:39:31,360 chair. 11391 06:39:31,360 --> 06:39:31,990 >> Yes. 11392 06:39:31,990 --> 06:39:32,000 » Yes. 11393 06:39:32,000 --> 06:39:35,430 >> Here is a a summary of all the changes 11394 06:39:35,430 --> 06:39:35,440 » Here is a a summary of all the changes 11395 06:39:35,440 --> 06:39:40,878 that made thus far in our budget. 11396 06:39:40,878 --> 06:39:44,718 And um Margie, you can correct me if I'm 11397 06:39:44,718 --> 06:39:53,430 wrong. Our budget for this 20 26 27 11398 06:39:53,440 --> 06:39:56,478 meaning all our expenditures 11399 06:39:56,478 --> 06:40:04,708 is $18,192,778. 11400 06:40:04,718 --> 06:40:07,600 Our revenues 11401 06:40:07,600 --> 06:40:09,510 >> is looking at the general fund. 11402 06:40:09,510 --> 06:40:09,520 » is looking at the general fund. 11403 06:40:09,520 --> 06:40:12,150 >> He's he's Yes, he's on the general fund. 11404 06:40:12,150 --> 06:40:12,160 » He's he's Yes, he's on the general fund. 11405 06:40:12,160 --> 06:40:15,760 He's adding operating expenditures, 11406 06:40:15,760 --> 06:40:19,600 capital outlay, transfers out, and the 11407 06:40:19,600 --> 06:40:22,320 contingency fund 11408 06:40:22,320 --> 06:40:22,958 to get that 11409 06:40:22,958 --> 06:40:24,150 >> all 11410 06:40:24,150 --> 06:40:24,160 » all 11411 06:40:24,160 --> 06:40:27,030 >> to get what number? Sorry. 11412 06:40:27,030 --> 06:40:27,040 » to get what number? Sorry. 11413 06:40:27,040 --> 06:40:28,070 >> 18 million. 11414 06:40:28,070 --> 06:40:28,080 » 18 million. 11415 06:40:28,080 --> 06:40:30,230 >> To get what number, sir? 11416 06:40:30,230 --> 06:40:30,240 » To get what number, sir? 11417 06:40:30,240 --> 06:40:36,868 >> 18,192,778. 11418 06:40:36,878 --> 06:40:39,040 Is that what you got, Marcy? 11419 06:40:39,040 --> 06:40:40,708 >> I actually didn't get around to adding 11420 06:40:40,708 --> 06:40:40,718 » I actually didn't get around to adding 11421 06:40:40,718 --> 06:40:45,270 it up. Our 11422 06:40:45,280 --> 06:40:47,920 revenues 11423 06:40:47,920 --> 06:40:50,160 that is the sum of our at the very top 11424 06:40:50,160 --> 06:40:53,520 of the page our operating revenues and 11425 06:40:53,520 --> 06:40:57,040 our transfers in 11426 06:40:57,040 --> 06:41:08,708 that is a total of 11 million222,356. 11427 06:41:08,718 --> 06:41:17,190 That's a difference of $6,970,422. 11428 06:41:17,200 --> 06:41:19,360 Difference being 11429 06:41:19,360 --> 06:41:23,040 that's what has to be made up 11430 06:41:23,040 --> 06:41:26,320 and your 11431 06:41:26,320 --> 06:41:29,200 only partic your only source there is 11432 06:41:29,200 --> 06:41:32,400 property tax. 11433 06:41:32,400 --> 06:41:34,638 That's not going to happen. 11434 06:41:34,638 --> 06:41:42,468 So this is where Okay. What do we cut? 11435 06:41:42,478 --> 06:41:44,160 » Pardon? 11436 06:41:44,160 --> 06:41:45,910 >> I said which is again why we need more 11437 06:41:45,910 --> 06:41:45,920 » I said which is again why we need more 11438 06:41:45,920 --> 06:41:47,920 sales tax. 11439 06:41:47,920 --> 06:41:51,510 >> Well, it's there's a big list on here. 11440 06:41:51,510 --> 06:41:51,520 » Well, it's there's a big list on here. 11441 06:41:51,520 --> 06:41:54,718 There's a very big list of projects on 11442 06:41:54,718 --> 06:41:58,878 here. So this is uh this is the 11443 06:41:58,878 --> 06:42:01,280 difficult part. 11444 06:42:01,280 --> 06:42:03,928 Living within our means. 11445 06:42:03,928 --> 06:42:09,910 >> [snorts] 11446 06:42:09,920 --> 06:42:12,638 » Now, uh, I think now would be a good 11447 06:42:12,638 --> 06:42:19,920 time to let's introduce the, uh, 11448 06:42:19,920 --> 06:42:20,390 >> rates, 11449 06:42:20,390 --> 06:42:20,400 » rates, 11450 06:42:20,400 --> 06:42:24,070 >> certified tax roles, the rates. 11451 06:42:24,070 --> 06:42:24,080 » certified tax roles, the rates. 11452 06:42:24,080 --> 06:42:27,600 Uh, one thing you'll notice in here is 11453 06:42:27,600 --> 06:42:29,920 the 11454 06:42:29,920 --> 06:42:35,110 um, 11455 06:42:35,120 --> 06:42:38,878 our tax rates have have not dropped. 11456 06:42:38,878 --> 06:42:42,080 typically in you know in the past years 11457 06:42:42,080 --> 06:42:46,000 is that uh for 11458 06:42:46,000 --> 06:42:49,280 to gain the same revenue from the year 11459 06:42:49,280 --> 06:42:53,040 prior you would see a lower tax rate the 11460 06:42:53,040 --> 06:42:56,558 no new revenue rate would drop but 11461 06:42:56,558 --> 06:42:59,360 that's not the case this year and I 11462 06:42:59,360 --> 06:43:01,360 think many entities throughout North 11463 06:43:01,360 --> 06:43:03,920 Texas or Texas as a whole has 11464 06:43:03,920 --> 06:43:06,718 experienced this I know Fort Worth has 11465 06:43:06,718 --> 06:43:11,920 very specifically The Tarant County EDC 11466 06:43:11,920 --> 06:43:15,600 emergency district has experienced this 11467 06:43:15,600 --> 06:43:18,718 is that valuations 11468 06:43:18,718 --> 06:43:21,280 fell. 11469 06:43:21,280 --> 06:43:24,000 The valuations in within Hassid have 11470 06:43:24,000 --> 06:43:25,760 fallen 11471 06:43:25,760 --> 06:43:27,920 and that's what drives that percentage 11472 06:43:27,920 --> 06:43:30,240 rate up. 11473 06:43:30,240 --> 06:43:40,230 So just understand that 11474 06:43:40,240 --> 06:44:03,270 Get this stuff out of my way. 11475 06:44:03,280 --> 06:44:04,718 Marcy, you want to go ahead and just 11476 06:44:04,718 --> 06:44:08,478 start? Go ahead and go over the uh 11477 06:44:08,478 --> 06:44:09,680 tax rates. 11478 06:44:09,680 --> 06:44:12,948 >> Yes. At each of your spots, you should 11479 06:44:12,948 --> 06:44:12,958 » Yes. At each of your spots, you should 11480 06:44:12,958 --> 06:44:15,760 have a copy of the It looks like this. 11481 06:44:15,760 --> 06:44:17,840 It's the 2026 11482 06:44:17,840 --> 06:44:22,160 uh tax rate worksheet. This is um the 11483 06:44:22,160 --> 06:44:27,120 computation for all the rates and um 11484 06:44:27,120 --> 06:44:30,000 this computation was done for us by um 11485 06:44:30,000 --> 06:44:32,000 Tarant County 11486 06:44:32,000 --> 06:44:33,760 and it's based off the certified 11487 06:44:33,760 --> 06:44:38,638 valuations that um are received from the 11488 06:44:38,638 --> 06:44:41,280 uh Tarant appraisal district and the 11489 06:44:41,280 --> 06:44:43,360 Denton County Appraisal District. We do 11490 06:44:43,360 --> 06:44:44,958 have some property that's in Denton 11491 06:44:44,958 --> 06:44:48,958 County, so we add them both together to 11492 06:44:48,958 --> 06:44:51,520 get our total valuation. 11493 06:44:51,520 --> 06:44:54,240 Um, if you'll look at this big sheet 11494 06:44:54,240 --> 06:44:58,000 that I gave you, um, make sure on the 11495 06:44:58,000 --> 06:45:00,798 increase the third column from the 11496 06:45:00,798 --> 06:45:03,920 right, make sure your copy, 11497 06:45:03,920 --> 06:45:06,320 write down where there's a blue 8%, make 11498 06:45:06,320 --> 06:45:09,200 sure there's a 7.99 figure up above it. 11499 06:45:09,200 --> 06:45:10,718 and that way you'll know you have the 11500 06:45:10,718 --> 06:45:14,400 correct sheet we're looking at. 11501 06:45:14,400 --> 06:45:18,718 Um, so our according to the calculations 11502 06:45:18,718 --> 06:45:21,760 from Tarant County, 11503 06:45:21,760 --> 06:45:27,830 our total no new revenue rate is 339405 11504 06:45:27,840 --> 06:45:32,400 and that is shown in blue under the tax 11505 06:45:32,400 --> 06:45:35,280 rate column M ins total. That's the 11506 06:45:35,280 --> 06:45:38,240 total no new revenue rate. 11507 06:45:38,240 --> 06:45:42,878 If you adopted that rate, um you would 11508 06:45:42,878 --> 06:45:45,200 basically according to the way they do 11509 06:45:45,200 --> 06:45:47,040 the calculations, you would assume that 11510 06:45:47,040 --> 06:45:50,320 there's no increase in your tax rate 11511 06:45:50,320 --> 06:45:52,638 even though it is an increase in the tax 11512 06:45:52,638 --> 06:45:55,280 rate, but it's it's gets you the same 11513 06:45:55,280 --> 06:45:57,520 amount of dollars. 11514 06:45:57,520 --> 06:46:01,520 Um so basically you have in your tax 11515 06:46:01,520 --> 06:46:05,440 rate you have M and INS. So the M is 11516 06:46:05,440 --> 06:46:07,760 your maintenance fees and that's when 11517 06:46:07,760 --> 06:46:11,200 we're looking at the general fund column 11518 06:46:11,200 --> 06:46:13,520 or summary. 11519 06:46:13,520 --> 06:46:20,000 The um property tax number is 6.2 11520 06:46:20,000 --> 06:46:24,080 um 6 point or 62 6,242,000 11521 06:46:24,080 --> 06:46:27,280 is what um the mayor proposed for the 11522 06:46:27,280 --> 06:46:28,638 budget on there. 11523 06:46:28,638 --> 06:46:30,390 >> What was Can you repeat that? I'm sorry. 11524 06:46:30,390 --> 06:46:30,400 » What was Can you repeat that? I'm sorry. 11525 06:46:30,400 --> 06:46:33,680 that six mill on this on this sheet he's 11526 06:46:33,680 --> 06:46:36,000 proposed 6,242 11527 06:46:36,000 --> 06:46:40,390 to come from property tax. 11528 06:46:40,400 --> 06:46:43,360 » So on the M that was that's going to 11529 06:46:43,360 --> 06:46:45,440 fall between 11530 06:46:45,440 --> 06:46:48,718 um if you look at the M column and you 11531 06:46:48,718 --> 06:46:51,440 go down about 11532 06:46:51,440 --> 06:46:53,440 oh almost to the end probably three4s 11533 06:46:53,440 --> 06:46:56,718 the way you get to where you see 6.26 11534 06:46:56,718 --> 06:46:59,600 6.28 28 6.37 11535 06:46:59,600 --> 06:47:01,760 6256. 11536 06:47:01,760 --> 06:47:04,718 Um so somewhere in that range which is 11537 06:47:04,718 --> 06:47:06,478 um 11538 06:47:06,478 --> 06:47:09,120 the in the voter approval rate range for 11539 06:47:09,120 --> 06:47:12,400 both um the voter approval rate and the 11540 06:47:12,400 --> 06:47:14,798 voter approval rate for cities under 11541 06:47:14,798 --> 06:47:17,910 30,000. 11542 06:47:17,920 --> 06:47:19,680 Because we're a city under 30,000 11543 06:47:19,680 --> 06:47:24,638 population, we cannot go over this 8% 11544 06:47:24,638 --> 06:47:27,440 rate that I showed you initially in that 11545 06:47:27,440 --> 06:47:29,680 column. And so whenever we have intended 11546 06:47:29,680 --> 06:47:30,478 to 11547 06:47:30,478 --> 06:47:32,468 >> well up against that rate, 11548 06:47:32,468 --> 06:47:32,478 » well up against that rate, 11549 06:47:32,478 --> 06:47:33,910 >> you could with an election 11550 06:47:33,910 --> 06:47:33,920 » you could with an election 11551 06:47:33,920 --> 06:47:36,310 >> we can go over but it's a mandatory 11552 06:47:36,310 --> 06:47:36,320 » we can go over but it's a mandatory 11553 06:47:36,320 --> 06:47:36,958 election. 11554 06:47:36,958 --> 06:47:38,708 >> And where just one more time on you said 11555 06:47:38,708 --> 06:47:38,718 » And where just one more time on you said 11556 06:47:38,718 --> 06:47:40,240 that the mayor's prop on the proposed 11557 06:47:40,240 --> 06:47:44,000 budget where is the that six where is 11558 06:47:44,000 --> 06:47:46,160 that? That's This is on the general fund 11559 06:47:46,160 --> 06:47:46,638 summary 11560 06:47:46,638 --> 06:47:47,350 >> right 11561 06:47:47,350 --> 06:47:47,360 » right 11562 06:47:47,360 --> 06:47:50,788 >> up on the revenues the second line on 11563 06:47:50,788 --> 06:47:50,798 » up on the revenues the second line on 11564 06:47:50,798 --> 06:47:51,440 the right. 11565 06:47:51,440 --> 06:47:54,230 >> Second line 6.242. Thank you ma'am. 11566 06:47:54,230 --> 06:47:54,240 » Second line 6.242. Thank you ma'am. 11567 06:47:54,240 --> 06:47:54,628 >> Yes. 11568 06:47:54,628 --> 06:47:54,638 » Yes. 11569 06:47:54,638 --> 06:47:56,310 >> Can I say a little word? 11570 06:47:56,310 --> 06:47:56,320 » Can I say a little word? 11571 06:47:56,320 --> 06:47:57,430 >> Yes. 11572 06:47:57,430 --> 06:47:57,440 » Yes. 11573 06:47:57,440 --> 06:47:59,190 >> My understanding from the conference 11574 06:47:59,190 --> 06:47:59,200 » My understanding from the conference 11575 06:47:59,200 --> 06:48:02,798 last week and our discussions previously 11576 06:48:02,798 --> 06:48:05,920 if we go over this 8% it triggers an 11577 06:48:05,920 --> 06:48:08,878 election. And what they told us, if I 11578 06:48:08,878 --> 06:48:11,360 heard correctly at the conference, is if 11579 06:48:11,360 --> 06:48:15,120 it goes to an election and the voters 11580 06:48:15,120 --> 06:48:18,718 disprove it, it defaults back to the no 11581 06:48:18,718 --> 06:48:20,400 new revenue rate. 11582 06:48:20,400 --> 06:48:22,628 >> Well, it defaults to the rate I mean the 11583 06:48:22,628 --> 06:48:22,638 » Well, it defaults to the rate I mean the 11584 06:48:22,638 --> 06:48:25,040 revenue that we have the current year. 11585 06:48:25,040 --> 06:48:25,990 >> No new revenue rate. 11586 06:48:25,990 --> 06:48:26,000 » No new revenue rate. 11587 06:48:26,000 --> 06:48:27,030 >> Yeah. 11588 06:48:27,030 --> 06:48:27,040 » Yeah. 11589 06:48:27,040 --> 06:48:30,080 So it would go from 8% all the way back 11590 06:48:30,080 --> 06:48:32,000 to 11591 06:48:32,000 --> 06:48:36,320 uh whatever that is point I mean 0000 11592 06:48:36,320 --> 06:48:37,440 change. 11593 06:48:37,440 --> 06:48:40,788 >> So it go from a an a income of 6.9 11594 06:48:40,788 --> 06:48:40,798 » So it go from a an a income of 6.9 11595 06:48:40,798 --> 06:48:43,680 million roughly back to 6.4. So we'd 11596 06:48:43,680 --> 06:48:46,240 lose 500,000 if we didn't win the 11597 06:48:46,240 --> 06:48:46,798 election. 11598 06:48:46,798 --> 06:48:51,190 >> And our current tax rate is a 3.15450. 11599 06:48:51,190 --> 06:48:51,200 » And our current tax rate is a 3.15450. 11600 06:48:51,200 --> 06:48:52,788 >> Our current one 11601 06:48:52,788 --> 06:48:52,798 » Our current one 11602 06:48:52,798 --> 06:48:53,350 >> Yes. 11603 06:48:53,350 --> 06:48:53,360 » Yes. 11604 06:48:53,360 --> 06:48:55,110 >> current rate is 3. 11605 06:48:55,110 --> 06:48:55,120 » current rate is 3. 11606 06:48:55,120 --> 06:48:57,270 >> Yes. 11607 06:48:57,270 --> 06:48:57,280 » Yes. 11608 06:48:57,280 --> 06:48:58,160 339. 11609 06:48:58,160 --> 06:48:59,430 >> No, that's what the no new revenue 11610 06:48:59,430 --> 06:48:59,440 » No, that's what the no new revenue 11611 06:48:59,440 --> 06:49:03,280 weight is. But last year the 3 point the 11612 06:49:03,280 --> 06:49:04,798 315. 11613 06:49:04,798 --> 06:49:06,948 >> Okay. Thank you. 11614 06:49:06,948 --> 06:49:06,958 » Okay. Thank you. 11615 06:49:06,958 --> 06:49:08,390 >> Where does that stack up with other 11616 06:49:08,390 --> 06:49:08,400 » Where does that stack up with other 11617 06:49:08,400 --> 06:49:10,400 towns around here? Do you know? 11618 06:49:10,400 --> 06:49:11,750 >> Yeah, we're very low. 11619 06:49:11,750 --> 06:49:11,760 » Yeah, we're very low. 11620 06:49:11,760 --> 06:49:12,390 >> We're very low 11621 06:49:12,390 --> 06:49:12,400 » We're very low 11622 06:49:12,400 --> 06:49:14,070 >> to to a lot of other towns. 11623 06:49:14,070 --> 06:49:14,080 » to to a lot of other towns. 11624 06:49:14,080 --> 06:49:16,230 >> Okay. 11625 06:49:16,230 --> 06:49:16,240 » Okay. 11626 06:49:16,240 --> 06:49:20,310 >> We're probably currently the of 16. Uh I 11627 06:49:20,310 --> 06:49:20,320 » We're probably currently the of 16. Uh I 11628 06:49:20,320 --> 06:49:22,878 know that I don't I haven't shown it to 11629 06:49:22,878 --> 06:49:26,320 this council, but in previous budget 11630 06:49:26,320 --> 06:49:29,280 meetings um 11631 06:49:29,280 --> 06:49:32,878 and neighborhood meetings 11632 06:49:32,878 --> 06:49:39,120 is I did a graph of or a data of 16 area 11633 06:49:39,120 --> 06:49:43,840 cities and their tax rates. 11634 06:49:43,840 --> 06:49:47,120 Three years ago, we were the lowest and 11635 06:49:47,120 --> 06:49:50,478 had always been the lowest of all 16. 11636 06:49:50,478 --> 06:49:54,240 Uh last year, I believe we were uh 11637 06:49:54,240 --> 06:49:56,478 second lowest. 11638 06:49:56,478 --> 06:49:59,760 Um but also we have a very low debt 11639 06:49:59,760 --> 06:50:03,440 ratio too. Um that's an attractive 11640 06:50:03,440 --> 06:50:05,280 thing. That's why our bond rating went 11641 06:50:05,280 --> 06:50:10,638 up three two years ago. Nonetheless is I 11642 06:50:10,638 --> 06:50:13,440 want to 11643 06:50:13,440 --> 06:50:18,000 mention to you I I I stated that our 11644 06:50:18,000 --> 06:50:22,638 valuations went down. I want to 11645 06:50:22,638 --> 06:50:25,600 last year's valuations actually this 11646 06:50:25,600 --> 06:50:28,240 current fiscal year in that but the 11647 06:50:28,240 --> 06:50:31,520 valuations we received almost a year ago 11648 06:50:31,520 --> 06:50:35,920 that the 2526 budget was worked on those 11649 06:50:35,920 --> 06:50:38,558 valuations was 11650 06:50:38,558 --> 06:50:40,798 1 bill960 11651 06:50:40,798 --> 06:50:45,110 million678 11652 06:50:45,120 --> 06:50:49,990 uh,647 11653 06:50:50,000 --> 06:50:50,478 Huh? 11654 06:50:50,478 --> 06:50:51,510 >> You said billion. 11655 06:50:51,510 --> 06:50:51,520 » You said billion. 11656 06:50:51,520 --> 06:50:54,788 >> Billion. Uh, that's 11657 06:50:54,788 --> 06:50:54,798 » Billion. Uh, that's 11658 06:50:54,798 --> 06:50:56,558 Yes. 11659 06:50:56,558 --> 06:51:00,080 This year it fell. 11660 06:51:00,080 --> 06:51:02,878 It's 1 bill914 11661 06:51:02,878 --> 06:51:07,830 million180,934. 11662 06:51:07,840 --> 06:51:16,948 It dropped 46 million497,713. 11663 06:51:16,958 --> 06:51:20,160 the valuations did uh that's even 11664 06:51:20,160 --> 06:51:23,120 including the new properties that came 11665 06:51:23,120 --> 06:51:24,080 online. 11666 06:51:24,080 --> 06:51:30,628 >> My case get keeps getting built for me 11667 06:51:30,638 --> 06:51:31,840 » about sales tax. 11668 06:51:31,840 --> 06:51:33,910 >> Sales tax. Sales tax. Sales tax. 11669 06:51:33,910 --> 06:51:33,920 » Sales tax. Sales tax. Sales tax. 11670 06:51:33,920 --> 06:51:37,750 >> No. Well, no. I understand. I understand 11671 06:51:37,750 --> 06:51:37,760 » No. Well, no. I understand. I understand 11672 06:51:37,760 --> 06:51:40,638 you're not as bad off as you may think, 11673 06:51:40,638 --> 06:51:45,600 but we'll get into more of that. Um the 11674 06:51:45,600 --> 06:51:48,080 we're in a there there are things 11675 06:51:48,080 --> 06:51:50,400 happening in 11676 06:51:50,400 --> 06:51:55,840 the world, the nation, um economy, our 11677 06:51:55,840 --> 06:51:59,200 North Texas economy that all contributed 11678 06:51:59,200 --> 06:52:01,680 to this drop in valuation. This is 11679 06:52:01,680 --> 06:52:06,240 nothing unique to North Texas. 11680 06:52:06,240 --> 06:52:08,558 Uh so 11681 06:52:08,558 --> 06:52:11,200 in that 11682 06:52:11,200 --> 06:52:15,190 going back to 11683 06:52:15,200 --> 06:52:17,200 uh understand if we go to this co this 11684 06:52:17,200 --> 06:52:19,520 rate called the dimminimous rate that's 11685 06:52:19,520 --> 06:52:22,400 that magic number that 8% that 11686 06:52:22,400 --> 06:52:24,638 correlates to 11687 06:52:24,638 --> 06:52:27,520 an additional $500,000 11688 06:52:27,520 --> 06:52:30,868 in revenue. 11689 06:52:30,878 --> 06:52:38,468 we have a difference of $6,970,000. 11690 06:52:38,478 --> 06:52:40,000 You're not going to be able to go up on 11691 06:52:40,000 --> 06:52:42,798 taxes enough to meet that difference. 11692 06:52:42,798 --> 06:52:46,000 So, this is going to take a look at 11693 06:52:46,000 --> 06:52:48,320 there are various sources uh or 11694 06:52:48,320 --> 06:52:52,160 mechanisms. Uh one is 11695 06:52:52,160 --> 06:52:56,878 uh bonds. Um, if we have a we got recent 11696 06:52:56,878 --> 06:53:00,080 I think a month old uh schedule bond 11697 06:53:00,080 --> 06:53:01,920 schedule. In fact, I have that right 11698 06:53:01,920 --> 06:53:03,760 here. Let me load it up. Oh, I got it 11699 06:53:03,760 --> 06:53:06,160 already loaded. Let me show that. This 11700 06:53:06,160 --> 06:53:09,200 is a tool in your toolbox. 11701 06:53:09,200 --> 06:53:10,798 Bonds. 11702 06:53:10,798 --> 06:53:12,958 Here you are. 11703 06:53:12,958 --> 06:53:18,468 Um, 11704 06:53:18,478 --> 06:53:22,400 » a $5 million the first column here. Uh 11705 06:53:22,400 --> 06:53:26,798 $5 million 20-year bond 11706 06:53:26,798 --> 06:53:31,750 adds.177 11707 06:53:31,760 --> 06:53:33,680 cents 11708 06:53:33,680 --> 06:53:39,110 to your property to your tax. 11709 06:53:39,120 --> 06:53:42,240 And if you go 10, it's just a multiple. 11710 06:53:42,240 --> 06:53:45,270 Uh 11711 06:53:45,280 --> 06:53:48,878 so for each $5 million 11712 06:53:48,878 --> 06:53:52,708 is 11713 06:53:52,718 --> 06:53:56,558 one not it's less than two cents so 1.8 11714 06:53:56,558 --> 06:53:58,160 8 cents 11715 06:53:58,160 --> 06:53:58,868 >> Mayor Hoy 11716 06:53:58,868 --> 06:53:58,878 » Mayor Hoy 11717 06:53:58,878 --> 06:54:00,230 >> per five million. 11718 06:54:00,230 --> 06:54:00,240 » per five million. 11719 06:54:00,240 --> 06:54:01,270 >> I might have been the original person 11720 06:54:01,270 --> 06:54:01,280 » I might have been the original person 11721 06:54:01,280 --> 06:54:02,878 that got kind of got us off track, but I 11722 06:54:02,878 --> 06:54:04,000 was wondering if Miss Lamb could 11723 06:54:04,000 --> 06:54:05,680 continue with the worksheet. I might 11724 06:54:05,680 --> 06:54:09,120 have asked the the initial question that 11725 06:54:09,120 --> 06:54:11,120 that interrupted her, but if you if you 11726 06:54:11,120 --> 06:54:12,638 could continue, you were kind of 11727 06:54:12,638 --> 06:54:15,360 explaining the different rates. 11728 06:54:15,360 --> 06:54:17,750 >> So, is that okay to do that now? 11729 06:54:17,750 --> 06:54:17,760 » So, is that okay to do that now? 11730 06:54:17,760 --> 06:54:19,190 >> Is that right? All right. Mayor, 11731 06:54:19,190 --> 06:54:19,200 » Is that right? All right. Mayor, 11732 06:54:19,200 --> 06:54:19,830 >> what's that? 11733 06:54:19,830 --> 06:54:19,840 » what's that? 11734 06:54:19,840 --> 06:54:21,190 >> Can she go back to what she was doing? I 11735 06:54:21,190 --> 06:54:21,200 » Can she go back to what she was doing? I 11736 06:54:21,200 --> 06:54:22,320 was trying to get clarification. 11737 06:54:22,320 --> 06:54:23,350 >> Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I 11738 06:54:23,350 --> 06:54:23,360 » Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I 11739 06:54:23,360 --> 06:54:25,040 interrupted. Yeah, I I'm the one that 11740 06:54:25,040 --> 06:54:27,600 interrupted actually. So, and so I'm 11741 06:54:27,600 --> 06:54:28,080 apologizing. 11742 06:54:28,080 --> 06:54:31,910 >> Please go right ahead. 11743 06:54:31,920 --> 06:54:35,280 » Okay. Um, 11744 06:54:35,280 --> 06:54:36,958 so the thing that this that the general 11745 06:54:36,958 --> 06:54:40,320 fund keys off of um for this property 11746 06:54:40,320 --> 06:54:45,440 tax is our M. the column or the amount 11747 06:54:45,440 --> 06:54:48,320 that shows as operating expenditures, 11748 06:54:48,320 --> 06:54:50,878 those expenditures are the ones that are 11749 06:54:50,878 --> 06:54:53,600 deemed to be covered by your M piece of 11750 06:54:53,600 --> 06:54:56,958 the of the rate. Uh the debt service 11751 06:54:56,958 --> 06:54:59,280 rate is 11752 06:54:59,280 --> 06:55:02,638 um just it is what it is because that's 11753 06:55:02,638 --> 06:55:04,718 what our debt service is for the coming 11754 06:55:04,718 --> 06:55:06,718 year. as I mentioned, you know, when we 11755 06:55:06,718 --> 06:55:08,000 were talking about the debt service 11756 06:55:08,000 --> 06:55:10,958 fund. So, the total rate is the rate 11757 06:55:10,958 --> 06:55:13,040 you're looking to set today as a 11758 06:55:13,040 --> 06:55:16,638 proposed rate. Um, 11759 06:55:16,638 --> 06:55:19,680 to just kind of understand this sheet, 11760 06:55:19,680 --> 06:55:21,920 the way I do this is I try to show you 11761 06:55:21,920 --> 06:55:23,760 different increments of different rates. 11762 06:55:23,760 --> 06:55:25,520 If there's a different level you want to 11763 06:55:25,520 --> 06:55:29,680 look at, I can run that. Um, but I've 11764 06:55:29,680 --> 06:55:32,558 tried to show you the no new revenue M 11765 06:55:32,558 --> 06:55:34,798 rate. That's that's where we begin. 11766 06:55:34,798 --> 06:55:36,558 That's where all the other rates key off 11767 06:55:36,558 --> 06:55:39,120 of. Then there's the total no new 11768 06:55:39,120 --> 06:55:42,878 revenue rate and that's it gets you a 11769 06:55:42,878 --> 06:55:45,760 little bit more in in M, but it's not to 11770 06:55:45,760 --> 06:55:48,798 be confused with the no new revenue M 11771 06:55:48,798 --> 06:55:52,558 rate. And then um the voter approval 11772 06:55:52,558 --> 06:55:56,478 rate, if you'll notice down here, it's 11773 06:55:56,478 --> 06:55:59,120 um basically at 6.82. And for those of 11774 06:55:59,120 --> 06:56:00,638 you that have been on council for a 11775 06:56:00,638 --> 06:56:02,160 while, you're going to wonder why it's 11776 06:56:02,160 --> 06:56:04,638 not at 3 and a half. 11777 06:56:04,638 --> 06:56:07,760 And that is because on this worksheet, 11778 06:56:07,760 --> 06:56:12,150 um if you turn to 11779 06:56:12,160 --> 06:56:15,600 um page nine of this worksheet, there is 11780 06:56:15,600 --> 06:56:17,680 what's called an unused increment. And 11781 06:56:17,680 --> 06:56:20,958 since last year you did not go to your 11782 06:56:20,958 --> 06:56:22,798 voter approval rate, there's an 11783 06:56:22,798 --> 06:56:26,718 increment that you can use this year. So 11784 06:56:26,718 --> 06:56:28,958 the reason that our voter approval rate 11785 06:56:28,958 --> 06:56:31,920 is above the 3 and a half% is because of 11786 06:56:31,920 --> 06:56:36,240 that unused increment rate. So um that 11787 06:56:36,240 --> 06:56:40,160 added uh 192,843 11788 06:56:40,160 --> 06:56:44,798 to what you can add on to. 11789 06:56:44,798 --> 06:56:47,360 So, I just wanted to highlight that I 11790 06:56:47,360 --> 06:56:49,920 did show you where the three and a half 11791 06:56:49,920 --> 06:56:53,360 uh piece would be, but our actual voter 11792 06:56:53,360 --> 06:56:58,070 approval rate is this 357797. 11793 06:56:58,080 --> 06:57:00,878 So, that voter approval rate 11794 06:57:00,878 --> 06:57:05,200 um is almost to the 6.242. 11795 06:57:05,200 --> 06:57:10,320 Um not quite. Um 11796 06:57:10,320 --> 06:57:13,600 the next rate is the city's under 30,000 11797 06:57:13,600 --> 06:57:17,920 which I explained is basically 8%. 11798 06:57:17,920 --> 06:57:21,600 And that's because um of our being under 11799 06:57:21,600 --> 06:57:23,440 30,000 were considered as a special 11800 06:57:23,440 --> 06:57:26,320 taxing unit which is allowed to go up to 11801 06:57:26,320 --> 06:57:30,240 this without going to a vote. If you go 11802 06:57:30,240 --> 06:57:35,120 between um if you go between or over the 11803 06:57:35,120 --> 06:57:37,440 um voter approval rate triggered dim 11804 06:57:37,440 --> 06:57:39,040 deminimus 11805 06:57:39,040 --> 06:57:42,160 there's a chance for a petition if you 11806 06:57:42,160 --> 06:57:44,638 go above the dimminimus there's an 11807 06:57:44,638 --> 06:57:47,120 automatic election. 11808 06:57:47,120 --> 06:57:51,680 So, um, in order to fund everything that 11809 06:57:51,680 --> 06:57:55,920 you have currently in the budget, which 11810 06:57:55,920 --> 06:57:58,638 the numbers that you changed mostly, uh, 11811 06:57:58,638 --> 06:58:00,400 at both of your workshops have been the 11812 06:58:00,400 --> 06:58:03,760 capital outlay numbers. 11813 06:58:03,760 --> 06:58:05,440 Um, 11814 06:58:05,440 --> 06:58:08,080 if they're not covered, if a lot of this 11815 06:58:08,080 --> 06:58:10,080 capital outlay is not covered in your 11816 06:58:10,080 --> 06:58:12,000 tax rate, then you're using your 11817 06:58:12,000 --> 06:58:14,478 reserves to fund those. 11818 06:58:14,478 --> 06:58:15,430 >> Using what? 11819 06:58:15,430 --> 06:58:15,440 » Using what? 11820 06:58:15,440 --> 06:58:16,390 >> Your reserves. 11821 06:58:16,390 --> 06:58:16,400 » Your reserves. 11822 06:58:16,400 --> 06:58:17,830 >> Yeah. And how much do we have in 11823 06:58:17,830 --> 06:58:17,840 » Yeah. And how much do we have in 11824 06:58:17,840 --> 06:58:19,280 reserves? 11825 06:58:19,280 --> 06:58:23,350 >> You uh started out with uh 15.2 11826 06:58:23,350 --> 06:58:23,360 » You uh started out with uh 15.2 11827 06:58:23,360 --> 06:58:27,600 and you will be down to 11828 06:58:27,600 --> 06:58:30,160 uh this fund balance on this general 11829 06:58:30,160 --> 06:58:32,958 fund page of 9,297 11830 06:58:32,958 --> 06:58:33,920 630. 11831 06:58:33,920 --> 06:58:36,230 >> So we'd use up 6 million of it if we 11832 06:58:36,230 --> 06:58:36,240 » So we'd use up 6 million of it if we 11833 06:58:36,240 --> 06:58:37,680 fully funded everything we have in here 11834 06:58:37,680 --> 06:58:39,200 without any cuts. 11835 06:58:39,200 --> 06:58:39,910 >> That's correct. 11836 06:58:39,910 --> 06:58:39,920 » That's correct. 11837 06:58:39,920 --> 06:58:41,990 >> Thank you. 11838 06:58:41,990 --> 06:58:42,000 » Thank you. 11839 06:58:42,000 --> 06:58:45,440 So, in order to set the tax rate today, 11840 06:58:45,440 --> 06:58:47,600 we're asking you to set a proposed tax 11841 06:58:47,600 --> 06:58:51,120 rate and authorize a hearing uh to be 11842 06:58:51,120 --> 06:58:53,520 held on the 14th. 11843 06:58:53,520 --> 06:58:56,718 And where you set your tax rate depends 11844 06:58:56,718 --> 06:59:01,920 on how much you want this uh 6.242 11845 06:59:01,920 --> 06:59:03,680 uh million 11846 06:59:03,680 --> 06:59:06,400 to change. 11847 06:59:06,400 --> 06:59:09,520 uh or if you want this capital number or 11848 06:59:09,520 --> 06:59:14,080 any of your M numbers to change to take 11849 06:59:14,080 --> 06:59:17,600 less expenditures out. And so, 11850 06:59:17,600 --> 06:59:20,160 um if you're not going to make any 11851 06:59:20,160 --> 06:59:21,920 changes to any of the projects or 11852 06:59:21,920 --> 06:59:24,878 whatever, um my recommendation to you 11853 06:59:24,878 --> 06:59:31,120 would be to go up to the 8% or the 7.99. 11854 06:59:31,120 --> 06:59:36,708 >> I do want to make a note where you see 11855 06:59:36,708 --> 06:59:36,718 » I do want to make a note where you see 11856 06:59:36,718 --> 06:59:40,558 30,000 voter approval rate that is your 11857 06:59:40,558 --> 06:59:44,478 effective voter approval rate. 11858 06:59:44,478 --> 06:59:46,070 >> The 3614. 11859 06:59:46,070 --> 06:59:46,080 » The 3614. 11860 06:59:46,080 --> 06:59:46,708 >> Yes. 11861 06:59:46,708 --> 06:59:46,718 » Yes. 11862 06:59:46,718 --> 06:59:48,958 >> Yes. 11863 06:59:48,958 --> 06:59:48,968 » Yes. 11864 06:59:48,968 --> 06:59:49,760 [clears throat] 11865 06:59:49,760 --> 06:59:52,948 >> So if I was doing okay, if I was doing 11866 06:59:52,948 --> 06:59:52,958 » So if I was doing okay, if I was doing 11867 06:59:52,958 --> 06:59:55,280 my math correctly, it looked like from 11868 06:59:55,280 --> 06:59:57,760 the proposed budget we received last 11869 06:59:57,760 --> 07:00:00,400 week to today, 11870 07:00:00,400 --> 07:00:02,798 it was 650,000 increase in capital 11871 07:00:02,798 --> 07:00:04,558 outlay expenditures. Does anybody else 11872 07:00:04,558 --> 07:00:07,360 look at that and see if that's correct? 11873 07:00:07,360 --> 07:00:10,230 >> I can print off the capital outlay um 11874 07:00:10,230 --> 07:00:10,240 » I can print off the capital outlay um 11875 07:00:10,240 --> 07:00:12,000 changes for you. 11876 07:00:12,000 --> 07:00:13,670 >> I just Well, I have it on the overall 11877 07:00:13,670 --> 07:00:13,680 » I just Well, I have it on the overall 11878 07:00:13,680 --> 07:00:16,798 budget summary. I just took that 11879 07:00:16,798 --> 07:00:19,120 original number 11880 07:00:19,120 --> 07:00:20,798 of 11881 07:00:20,798 --> 07:00:22,400 um 11882 07:00:22,400 --> 07:00:26,478 yes from between the proposed and your 11883 07:00:26,478 --> 07:00:29,440 current you of course you took out the 11884 07:00:29,440 --> 07:00:31,600 library you took out the community 11885 07:00:31,600 --> 07:00:34,400 center but you added in 11886 07:00:34,400 --> 07:00:38,798 um the John Day road 1.425 425 million 11887 07:00:38,798 --> 07:00:42,400 blue mound 975,000 11888 07:00:42,400 --> 07:00:47,680 um and the blue mound 335,000 11889 07:00:47,680 --> 07:00:50,718 you also added in a million for today 11890 07:00:50,718 --> 07:00:56,000 for the John Road ultimate you added in 11891 07:00:56,000 --> 07:00:57,520 um 11892 07:00:57,520 --> 07:01:01,760 another 60,000 for houselet Park 11893 07:01:01,760 --> 07:01:04,478 reinforced concrete 11894 07:01:04,478 --> 07:01:08,638 and $10,000 for the Blue Mountain Road 11895 07:01:08,638 --> 07:01:10,718 grade separation 11896 07:01:10,718 --> 07:01:12,798 and 750,000 11897 07:01:12,798 --> 07:01:19,270 for the U public works facility 11898 07:01:19,280 --> 07:01:27,910 and you added 300,000 for parks. 11899 07:01:27,920 --> 07:01:30,000 I believe those are all 11900 07:01:30,000 --> 07:01:31,910 >> I was way off. It's Yeah, it was 1.8 11901 07:01:31,910 --> 07:01:31,920 » I was way off. It's Yeah, it was 1.8 11902 07:01:31,920 --> 07:01:34,080 million. 11903 07:01:34,080 --> 07:01:36,400 1 point 11904 07:01:36,400 --> 07:01:38,478 840,000. 11905 07:01:38,478 --> 07:01:39,110 >> So what is 11906 07:01:39,110 --> 07:01:39,120 » So what is 11907 07:01:39,120 --> 07:01:41,750 >> addition additional? Okay. 11908 07:01:41,750 --> 07:01:41,760 » addition additional? Okay. 11909 07:01:41,760 --> 07:01:51,350 >> So your your total capital went from 11910 07:01:51,360 --> 07:01:53,440 » 58 11911 07:01:53,440 --> 07:01:56,240 and now it's 64 6485. 11912 07:01:56,240 --> 07:02:04,468 >> Oh, I did do it wrong. Okay. 11913 07:02:04,478 --> 07:02:06,240 Marcy, so what's our current what's our 11914 07:02:06,240 --> 07:02:08,718 current tax rate like today? 11915 07:02:08,718 --> 07:02:13,590 >> The current tax rate is 31545.31 11916 07:02:13,590 --> 07:02:13,600 » The current tax rate is 31545.31 11917 07:02:13,600 --> 07:02:16,390 >> on the front page of your worksheet. 11918 07:02:16,390 --> 07:02:16,400 » on the front page of your worksheet. 11919 07:02:16,400 --> 07:02:20,390 >> So if we go up 8%oughly 11920 07:02:20,390 --> 07:02:20,400 » So if we go up 8%oughly 11921 07:02:20,400 --> 07:02:23,510 460 11922 07:02:23,520 --> 07:02:25,200 » Yes. 11923 07:02:25,200 --> 07:02:27,600 That puts us at 11924 07:02:27,600 --> 07:02:33,110 >> this number instead of six 242 is then 11925 07:02:33,110 --> 07:02:33,120 » this number instead of six 242 is then 11926 07:02:33,120 --> 07:02:35,270 >> 286. 11927 07:02:35,270 --> 07:02:35,280 » 286. 11928 07:02:35,280 --> 07:02:35,990 >> I'm going to hate 11929 07:02:35,990 --> 07:02:36,000 » I'm going to hate 11930 07:02:36,000 --> 07:02:39,270 >> it's just the M piece that you'd be in 11931 07:02:39,270 --> 07:02:39,280 » it's just the M piece that you'd be in 11932 07:02:39,280 --> 07:02:42,558 the general fund. 6.28673 11933 07:02:42,558 --> 07:02:45,600 if you went up to the 799. 11934 07:02:45,600 --> 07:02:47,600 So, we're only raising it at 4%. If you 11935 07:02:47,600 --> 07:02:50,478 kind of go with what Melsey said, well, 11936 07:02:50,478 --> 07:02:54,400 it go to this 3614 11937 07:02:54,400 --> 07:02:57,830 >> as far as the actual rate, but it will 11938 07:02:57,830 --> 07:02:57,840 » as far as the actual rate, but it will 11939 07:02:57,840 --> 07:03:01,680 it could it could make an 8% or 7.99 11940 07:03:01,680 --> 07:03:03,440 difference in their bill. 11941 07:03:03,440 --> 07:03:03,910 >> Oh. 11942 07:03:03,910 --> 07:03:03,920 » Oh. 11943 07:03:03,920 --> 07:03:06,070 >> Because this is based off of going to 11944 07:03:06,070 --> 07:03:06,080 » Because this is based off of going to 11945 07:03:06,080 --> 07:03:08,092 the no new revenue M rate. 11946 07:03:08,092 --> 07:03:10,638 [clears throat] So, it doesn't it's it's 11947 07:03:10,638 --> 07:03:14,240 not 8% over last year's rate. It's 8% 11948 07:03:14,240 --> 07:03:17,920 over the no new revenue M rate. 11949 07:03:17,920 --> 07:03:19,750 >> It raises 11950 07:03:19,750 --> 07:03:19,760 » It raises 11951 07:03:19,760 --> 07:03:21,750 >> Yeah. How much you say it raised? 11952 07:03:21,750 --> 07:03:21,760 » Yeah. How much you say it raised? 11953 07:03:21,760 --> 07:03:25,030 >> It goes up 6.918027 11954 07:03:25,030 --> 07:03:25,040 » It goes up 6.918027 11955 07:03:25,040 --> 07:03:26,000 million, 11956 07:03:26,000 --> 07:03:26,468 >> right? 11957 07:03:26,468 --> 07:03:26,478 » right? 11958 07:03:26,478 --> 07:03:27,910 >> 6.9, 11959 07:03:27,910 --> 07:03:27,920 » 6.9, 11960 07:03:27,920 --> 07:03:30,708 >> but only 6.2 is the M piece. 11961 07:03:30,708 --> 07:03:30,718 » but only 6.2 is the M piece. 11962 07:03:30,718 --> 07:03:31,510 >> That's what we care about. 11963 07:03:31,510 --> 07:03:31,520 » That's what we care about. 11964 07:03:31,520 --> 07:03:32,628 >> That's the piece that goes in the 11965 07:03:32,628 --> 07:03:32,638 » That's the piece that goes in the 11966 07:03:32,638 --> 07:03:33,200 general fund. 11967 07:03:33,200 --> 07:03:34,150 >> Yeah. Don't look at Don't look at the 11968 07:03:34,150 --> 07:03:34,160 » Yeah. Don't look at Don't look at the 11969 07:03:34,160 --> 07:03:37,200 total together. Only look at the M. 11970 07:03:37,200 --> 07:03:39,520 The 63742 11971 07:03:39,520 --> 07:03:41,920 goes into the debt service fund and 11972 07:03:41,920 --> 07:03:44,400 that's constant no matter what your rate 11973 07:03:44,400 --> 07:03:45,280 is. 11974 07:03:45,280 --> 07:03:47,270 >> So the mayor had already planned for a 11975 07:03:47,270 --> 07:03:47,280 » So the mayor had already planned for a 11976 07:03:47,280 --> 07:03:50,798 pretty significant increase. 11977 07:03:50,798 --> 07:03:53,990 >> Yeah, almost close to almost but not all 11978 07:03:53,990 --> 07:03:54,000 » Yeah, almost close to almost but not all 11979 07:03:54,000 --> 07:03:54,320 the way. 11980 07:03:54,320 --> 07:03:55,350 >> 7.14. 11981 07:03:55,350 --> 07:03:55,360 » 7.14. 11982 07:03:55,360 --> 07:04:01,270 >> Yeah. 7.14. Not Yeah. 11983 07:04:01,280 --> 07:04:04,948 » Okay. So 6,287,285 11984 07:04:04,958 --> 07:04:06,878 is the 8% increase. Say it again. 11985 07:04:06,878 --> 07:04:07,910 >> Correct. Which is what he 11986 07:04:07,910 --> 07:04:07,920 » Correct. Which is what he 11987 07:04:07,920 --> 07:04:09,670 >> turn your light on or turn your will you 11988 07:04:09,670 --> 07:04:09,680 » turn your light on or turn your will you 11989 07:04:09,680 --> 07:04:11,840 say it again please. 11990 07:04:11,840 --> 07:04:16,628 >> So if you just look in M it's 6,287,285 11991 07:04:16,628 --> 07:04:16,638 » So if you just look in M it's 6,287,285 11992 07:04:16,638 --> 07:04:18,080 at 8%. 11993 07:04:18,080 --> 07:04:20,868 >> We look at 7.99. 11994 07:04:20,868 --> 07:04:20,878 » We look at 7.99. 11995 07:04:20,878 --> 07:04:22,400 We can't go to eight, right? You have to 11996 07:04:22,400 --> 07:04:23,360 go 7.99. 11997 07:04:23,360 --> 07:04:25,030 >> Well, you could go to eight. We just 11998 07:04:25,030 --> 07:04:25,040 » Well, you could go to eight. We just 11999 07:04:25,040 --> 07:04:27,680 don't normally in case there's some type 12000 07:04:27,680 --> 07:04:29,520 of error, we try to make sure we know. 12001 07:04:29,520 --> 07:04:31,430 >> Okay. But the mayor already had what I'm 12002 07:04:31,430 --> 07:04:31,440 » Okay. But the mayor already had what I'm 12003 07:04:31,440 --> 07:04:32,958 trying to get to. The mayor already had 12004 07:04:32,958 --> 07:04:35,600 6,242,000. 12005 07:04:35,600 --> 07:04:37,360 Do it on the right side for me. Tell me 12006 07:04:37,360 --> 07:04:39,520 if if if 12007 07:04:39,520 --> 07:04:41,680 we if you you want eight, what was it on 12008 07:04:41,680 --> 07:04:44,718 the right side? What was his number? 12009 07:04:44,718 --> 07:04:47,030 >> The what right side? 12010 07:04:47,030 --> 07:04:47,040 » The what right side? 12011 07:04:47,040 --> 07:04:49,590 >> Give me the percentage, not the whole 12012 07:04:49,590 --> 07:04:49,600 » Give me the percentage, not the whole 12013 07:04:49,600 --> 07:04:51,600 amount. 12014 07:04:51,600 --> 07:04:52,958 Or give me the whole amount. I'll I'll 12015 07:04:52,958 --> 07:04:53,680 look over there. 12016 07:04:53,680 --> 07:04:55,750 >> Okay. At 7.99%. 12017 07:04:55,750 --> 07:04:55,760 » Okay. At 7.99%. 12018 07:04:55,760 --> 07:04:56,868 >> Okay. 12019 07:04:56,868 --> 07:04:56,878 » Okay. 12020 07:04:56,878 --> 07:04:57,590 >> Right. 12021 07:04:57,590 --> 07:04:57,600 » Right. 12022 07:04:57,600 --> 07:04:59,590 >> Right. 12023 07:04:59,590 --> 07:04:59,600 » Right. 12024 07:04:59,600 --> 07:05:04,718 The the income in M is 6,286,73 12025 07:05:04,718 --> 07:05:05,760 on Marcy's paper. 12026 07:05:05,760 --> 07:05:06,708 >> Got it. 12027 07:05:06,708 --> 07:05:06,718 » Got it. 12028 07:05:06,718 --> 07:05:09,030 >> The mayor and the budget already had 12029 07:05:09,030 --> 07:05:09,040 » The mayor and the budget already had 12030 07:05:09,040 --> 07:05:11,360 6,242,000 12031 07:05:11,360 --> 07:05:14,548 >> which would be 7 12032 07:05:14,548 --> 07:05:14,558 » which would be 7 12033 07:05:14,558 --> 07:05:17,600 little more than 7.14. 12034 07:05:17,600 --> 07:05:18,868 >> So 7.2. 12035 07:05:18,868 --> 07:05:18,878 » So 7.2. 12036 07:05:18,878 --> 07:05:21,430 >> Yeah. But what I'm saying is it's only a 12037 07:05:21,430 --> 07:05:21,440 » Yeah. But what I'm saying is it's only a 12038 07:05:21,440 --> 07:05:23,200 44,000 12039 07:05:23,200 --> 07:05:24,000 difference, 12040 07:05:24,000 --> 07:05:26,868 >> right? So it's not like we can raise 12041 07:05:26,868 --> 07:05:26,878 » right? So it's not like we can raise 12042 07:05:26,878 --> 07:05:29,520 another 500,000 by going to 8 8%. He's 12043 07:05:29,520 --> 07:05:31,040 already got a lot of it baked into his 12044 07:05:31,040 --> 07:05:31,680 budget here. 12045 07:05:31,680 --> 07:05:33,350 >> Correct. 12046 07:05:33,350 --> 07:05:33,360 » Correct. 12047 07:05:33,360 --> 07:05:36,548 >> So even if we go up to the 7.99, we only 12048 07:05:36,548 --> 07:05:36,558 » So even if we go up to the 7.99, we only 12049 07:05:36,558 --> 07:05:38,080 get $40,000 more. 12050 07:05:38,080 --> 07:05:39,750 >> We're like 1.9 different from his 12051 07:05:39,750 --> 07:05:39,760 » We're like 1.9 different from his 12052 07:05:39,760 --> 07:05:42,320 original budget. But I'm going to say 12053 07:05:42,320 --> 07:05:44,160 something that I don't even love, but 12054 07:05:44,160 --> 07:05:45,280 it's something that we need to talk 12055 07:05:45,280 --> 07:05:48,320 about that I mean, we are depleting our 12056 07:05:48,320 --> 07:05:50,320 savings quite a bit. We're one emergency 12057 07:05:50,320 --> 07:05:52,558 away from a bad situation. I I'm 12058 07:05:52,558 --> 07:05:55,760 thinking we can talk about the rate, but 12059 07:05:55,760 --> 07:05:57,760 I honestly don't think we can afford to 12060 07:05:57,760 --> 07:05:59,280 do the public works office. Either that 12061 07:05:59,280 --> 07:06:02,080 or we got to tear apart a lot. We could 12062 07:06:02,080 --> 07:06:04,878 also pick the interest rate and then go 12063 07:06:04,878 --> 07:06:06,878 for a bond specifically for the public 12064 07:06:06,878 --> 07:06:09,680 works. The Well, it's gone now and see 12065 07:06:09,680 --> 07:06:11,520 what the people think because there is a 12066 07:06:11,520 --> 07:06:15,280 bond for 5 million. Um, put it to the 12067 07:06:15,280 --> 07:06:17,040 people. 12068 07:06:17,040 --> 07:06:20,240 I mean, 12069 07:06:20,240 --> 07:06:22,788 >> if you did a 12070 07:06:22,788 --> 07:06:22,798 » if you did a 12071 07:06:22,798 --> 07:06:26,638 looking at doing a bond just for public, 12072 07:06:26,638 --> 07:06:28,320 that would be better. 12073 07:06:28,320 --> 07:06:30,468 >> A better tool for that would be a bank 12074 07:06:30,468 --> 07:06:30,478 » A better tool for that would be a bank 12075 07:06:30,478 --> 07:06:31,840 loan. 12076 07:06:31,840 --> 07:06:33,910 >> I don't I don't believe we can issue an 12077 07:06:33,910 --> 07:06:33,920 » I don't I don't believe we can issue an 12078 07:06:33,920 --> 07:06:36,080 a bond for a public works building. 12079 07:06:36,080 --> 07:06:37,680 That's why it's being funded out of the 12080 07:06:37,680 --> 07:06:41,120 general fund already. There's very 12081 07:06:41,120 --> 07:06:43,280 narrow what we can issue the bonds for. 12082 07:06:43,280 --> 07:06:45,360 It's mostly water, sewer. We could do a 12083 07:06:45,360 --> 07:06:47,680 fire department. We could do a library. 12084 07:06:47,680 --> 07:06:49,030 >> I also think you'll get more voter 12085 07:06:49,030 --> 07:06:49,040 » I also think you'll get more voter 12086 07:06:49,040 --> 07:06:51,040 approval if you do a bond for roads than 12087 07:06:51,040 --> 07:06:54,150 >> No, we can't do We can't do a library. 12088 07:06:54,150 --> 07:06:54,160 » No, we can't do We can't do a library. 12089 07:06:54,160 --> 07:06:54,468 >> Yeah. 12090 07:06:54,468 --> 07:06:54,478 » Yeah. 12091 07:06:54,478 --> 07:06:55,430 >> Can you do roads? 12092 07:06:55,430 --> 07:06:55,440 » Can you do roads? 12093 07:06:55,440 --> 07:06:58,070 >> We can do a We can do roads. We can do 12094 07:06:58,070 --> 07:06:58,080 » We can do a We can do roads. We can do 12095 07:06:58,080 --> 07:07:00,558 water, sewer, we can do public work 12096 07:07:00,558 --> 07:07:02,000 facilities. We can't 12097 07:07:02,000 --> 07:07:02,548 >> No, 12098 07:07:02,548 --> 07:07:02,558 » No, 12099 07:07:02,558 --> 07:07:03,830 >> I don't think 12100 07:07:03,830 --> 07:07:03,840 » I don't think 12101 07:07:03,840 --> 07:07:05,430 >> that's why public works is in the 12102 07:07:05,430 --> 07:07:05,440 » that's why public works is in the 12103 07:07:05,440 --> 07:07:06,320 general fund. Now, 12104 07:07:06,320 --> 07:07:09,990 >> now that pertains to cos only 12105 07:07:09,990 --> 07:07:10,000 » now that pertains to cos only 12106 07:07:10,000 --> 07:07:12,160 certificate of obligations. There's two 12107 07:07:12,160 --> 07:07:15,040 things. certificate of obligations and a 12108 07:07:15,040 --> 07:07:17,760 general obligation bond. A certificate 12109 07:07:17,760 --> 07:07:20,000 of obligation and this is the last 12110 07:07:20,000 --> 07:07:23,440 manner in 2022 is what we did. We 12111 07:07:23,440 --> 07:07:25,440 determined, okay, we need to group, we 12112 07:07:25,440 --> 07:07:28,400 need to finance these projects. 12113 07:07:28,400 --> 07:07:30,708 >> They're going to be needed anyway. 12114 07:07:30,708 --> 07:07:30,718 » They're going to be needed anyway. 12115 07:07:30,718 --> 07:07:31,190 >> If you did, 12116 07:07:31,190 --> 07:07:31,200 » If you did, 12117 07:07:31,200 --> 07:07:34,070 >> we made that decision and we took a 12118 07:07:34,070 --> 07:07:34,080 » we made that decision and we took a 12119 07:07:34,080 --> 07:07:36,718 council vote. 12120 07:07:36,718 --> 07:07:38,160 If you don't now, 12121 07:07:38,160 --> 07:07:40,150 >> if you did a bond, 12122 07:07:40,150 --> 07:07:40,160 » if you did a bond, 12123 07:07:40,160 --> 07:07:42,788 >> I believe you could go to an election to 12124 07:07:42,788 --> 07:07:42,798 » I believe you could go to an election to 12125 07:07:42,798 --> 07:07:44,080 do a public works facility. 12126 07:07:44,080 --> 07:07:45,910 >> That would be the go the general 12127 07:07:45,910 --> 07:07:45,920 » That would be the go the general 12128 07:07:45,920 --> 07:07:47,920 obligation bond. You go to an election. 12129 07:07:47,920 --> 07:07:48,548 >> That's what I was 12130 07:07:48,548 --> 07:07:48,558 » That's what I was 12131 07:07:48,558 --> 07:07:50,310 >> I don't think the public knows how bad 12132 07:07:50,310 --> 07:07:50,320 » I don't think the public knows how bad 12133 07:07:50,320 --> 07:07:51,840 we need a public works building. I don't 12134 07:07:51,840 --> 07:07:53,760 think they know about what all we know 12135 07:07:53,760 --> 07:07:55,280 about 12136 07:07:55,280 --> 07:07:56,718 why we need it and everything like that. 12137 07:07:56,718 --> 07:07:57,520 So, 12138 07:07:57,520 --> 07:07:58,708 >> I just don't think that I would think 12139 07:07:58,708 --> 07:07:58,718 » I just don't think that I would think 12140 07:07:58,718 --> 07:07:59,920 they would strike it down. I don't think 12141 07:07:59,920 --> 07:08:01,520 they would think, oh, $5 million for 12142 07:08:01,520 --> 07:08:03,120 that. I don't 12143 07:08:03,120 --> 07:08:05,830 >> Well, you you you don't know. I think 12144 07:08:05,830 --> 07:08:05,840 » Well, you you you don't know. I think 12145 07:08:05,840 --> 07:08:07,440 you have to educate them. I don't mind 12146 07:08:07,440 --> 07:08:08,958 doing the roads. I just think we're 12147 07:08:08,958 --> 07:08:10,478 going to have a lot of people upset if 12148 07:08:10,478 --> 07:08:12,878 we fund the public works building and 12149 07:08:12,878 --> 07:08:14,638 then put the roads up and what if the 12150 07:08:14,638 --> 07:08:16,080 roads don't get funded? Like what if the 12151 07:08:16,080 --> 07:08:16,878 bond doesn't? 12152 07:08:16,878 --> 07:08:19,830 >> Here's my here's my here's why what one 12153 07:08:19,830 --> 07:08:19,840 » Here's my here's my here's why what one 12154 07:08:19,840 --> 07:08:21,280 option I think we do. I think we take 12155 07:08:21,280 --> 07:08:24,718 out the 120,000 for Hasslup Park 12156 07:08:24,718 --> 07:08:26,558 reinforced concrete. We take out the 12157 07:08:26,558 --> 07:08:29,520 100,000 for a town hall concept. After 12158 07:08:29,520 --> 07:08:30,798 we do the strategic plan, we can come 12159 07:08:30,798 --> 07:08:33,600 back to that. We have contingency. Um, 12160 07:08:33,600 --> 07:08:36,958 that gets us down to only $430,000 12161 07:08:36,958 --> 07:08:38,878 different than the proposed budget. 12162 07:08:38,878 --> 07:08:39,990 >> What? 12163 07:08:39,990 --> 07:08:40,000 » What? 12164 07:08:40,000 --> 07:08:42,230 >> We are only We are only asking for 12165 07:08:42,230 --> 07:08:42,240 » We are only We are only asking for 12166 07:08:42,240 --> 07:08:45,200 $650,000 more in capital outlay. 12167 07:08:45,200 --> 07:08:47,110 >> Well, we're 1.9 off total. 12168 07:08:47,110 --> 07:08:47,120 » Well, we're 1.9 off total. 12169 07:08:47,120 --> 07:08:49,590 >> Yes, because it's 660 more in 12170 07:08:49,590 --> 07:08:49,600 » Yes, because it's 660 more in 12171 07:08:49,600 --> 07:08:51,440 expenditures, but I'm trying to get the 12172 07:08:51,440 --> 07:08:53,760 capital outlay down a little bit. And 12173 07:08:53,760 --> 07:08:58,160 the oneus 120US 100 would get it to 430. 12174 07:08:58,160 --> 07:08:59,760 Is there anything else on the list? I do 12175 07:08:59,760 --> 07:09:00,798 not want to take the public works 12176 07:09:00,798 --> 07:09:02,798 building off. I'm I'm okay with maybe 12177 07:09:02,798 --> 07:09:04,798 maybe making it a little bit less 12178 07:09:04,798 --> 07:09:08,160 instead of the what we put 3 point what 12179 07:09:08,160 --> 07:09:09,760 do we put in there 12180 07:09:09,760 --> 07:09:11,110 >> the public works building not going to 12181 07:09:11,110 --> 07:09:11,120 » the public works building not going to 12182 07:09:11,120 --> 07:09:11,680 get million 12183 07:09:11,680 --> 07:09:12,548 >> 3.25 25. 12184 07:09:12,548 --> 07:09:12,558 » 3.25 25. 12185 07:09:12,558 --> 07:09:13,750 >> The public works building is not going 12186 07:09:13,750 --> 07:09:13,760 » The public works building is not going 12187 07:09:13,760 --> 07:09:16,718 to get cheaper. 12188 07:09:16,718 --> 07:09:18,310 >> I want to make a comment about that 12189 07:09:18,310 --> 07:09:18,320 » I want to make a comment about that 12190 07:09:18,320 --> 07:09:20,718 public works building. I would recommend 12191 07:09:20,718 --> 07:09:23,200 you focus on the facilities, the 12192 07:09:23,200 --> 07:09:24,718 buildings, 12193 07:09:24,718 --> 07:09:25,120 the 12194 07:09:25,120 --> 07:09:26,230 >> He just said he wanted to do the roads 12195 07:09:26,230 --> 07:09:26,240 » He just said he wanted to do the roads 12196 07:09:26,240 --> 07:09:26,798 first, 12197 07:09:26,798 --> 07:09:30,708 >> but not the road. They can use that road 12198 07:09:30,708 --> 07:09:30,718 » but not the road. They can use that road 12199 07:09:30,718 --> 07:09:34,000 they have now into this facility. 12200 07:09:34,000 --> 07:09:36,310 >> And then you can look at another budget 12201 07:09:36,310 --> 07:09:36,320 » And then you can look at another budget 12202 07:09:36,320 --> 07:09:38,638 year if you need to build a road, but 12203 07:09:38,638 --> 07:09:41,680 it's not necessary. It's not I'll say 12204 07:09:41,680 --> 07:09:45,280 it's not a necessity for them to access 12205 07:09:45,280 --> 07:09:46,878 that new site. 12206 07:09:46,878 --> 07:09:47,190 >> Okay. 12207 07:09:47,190 --> 07:09:47,200 » Okay. 12208 07:09:47,200 --> 07:09:47,910 >> I know that 12209 07:09:47,910 --> 07:09:47,920 » I know that 12210 07:09:47,920 --> 07:09:50,230 >> I think what about for the park 12211 07:09:50,230 --> 07:09:50,240 » I think what about for the park 12212 07:09:50,240 --> 07:09:52,070 >> and that knocks what almost 2 million 12213 07:09:52,070 --> 07:09:52,080 » and that knocks what almost 2 million 12214 07:09:52,080 --> 07:09:52,400 out 12215 07:09:52,400 --> 07:09:54,708 >> and actually it's 180,000 not 120 12216 07:09:54,708 --> 07:09:54,718 » and actually it's 180,000 not 120 12217 07:09:54,718 --> 07:09:57,840 because we upped it to 180,000 for Hlet 12218 07:09:57,840 --> 07:09:59,040 Park. I forgot 12219 07:09:59,040 --> 07:10:00,868 >> for the community park. Could we remove 12220 07:10:00,868 --> 07:10:00,878 » for the community park. Could we remove 12221 07:10:00,878 --> 07:10:03,280 the extra 300,000 and of leave it for 12222 07:10:03,280 --> 07:10:04,958 HCDC if that's something that they want 12223 07:10:04,958 --> 07:10:08,240 to fund? I mean I mean they were I mean 12224 07:10:08,240 --> 07:10:11,590 >> that that's $300,000. 12225 07:10:11,590 --> 07:10:11,600 » that that's $300,000. 12226 07:10:11,600 --> 07:10:13,030 >> We could cut it in half or we could take 12227 07:10:13,030 --> 07:10:13,040 » We could cut it in half or we could take 12228 07:10:13,040 --> 07:10:15,520 out a hundred or something like that and 12229 07:10:15,520 --> 07:10:16,558 I'm I'm okay with that. 12230 07:10:16,558 --> 07:10:18,390 >> I think that on top of a h 100,000 for a 12231 07:10:18,390 --> 07:10:18,400 » I think that on top of a h 100,000 for a 12232 07:10:18,400 --> 07:10:19,840 sports field design when we're looking 12233 07:10:19,840 --> 07:10:21,840 at the budget that we can I I think it's 12234 07:10:21,840 --> 07:10:24,000 fiscally irresponsible. 12235 07:10:24,000 --> 07:10:27,520 I truly do. If the HCDC wants to fund 12236 07:10:27,520 --> 07:10:28,958 the more expensive park because we have 12237 07:10:28,958 --> 07:10:30,160 both 12238 07:10:30,160 --> 07:10:34,310 >> they've already tried that. No, 12239 07:10:34,310 --> 07:10:34,320 » they've already tried that. No, 12240 07:10:34,320 --> 07:10:35,350 >> the parks board is going to make a 12241 07:10:35,350 --> 07:10:35,360 » the parks board is going to make a 12242 07:10:35,360 --> 07:10:37,200 decision Wednesday on what park they 12243 07:10:37,200 --> 07:10:38,478 they choose. So that's 12244 07:10:38,478 --> 07:10:39,590 >> and if they choose the 12245 07:10:39,590 --> 07:10:39,600 » and if they choose the 12246 07:10:39,600 --> 07:10:42,468 >> but this 300,000 is I felt when I 12247 07:10:42,468 --> 07:10:42,478 » but this 300,000 is I felt when I 12248 07:10:42,478 --> 07:10:44,080 watched the meeting it was about some 12249 07:10:44,080 --> 07:10:45,120 other options they were planning on 12250 07:10:45,120 --> 07:10:46,958 doing the park. It wasn't just for the 12251 07:10:46,958 --> 07:10:47,760 the 12252 07:10:47,760 --> 07:10:49,910 >> 300,000 there one I think is for like 12253 07:10:49,910 --> 07:10:49,920 » 300,000 there one I think is for like 12254 07:10:49,920 --> 07:10:52,638 some sport or for some like exercising 12255 07:10:52,638 --> 07:10:53,440 and stuff like that. 12256 07:10:53,440 --> 07:10:54,468 >> If they don't get a grant there's a 12257 07:10:54,468 --> 07:10:54,478 » If they don't get a grant there's a 12258 07:10:54,478 --> 07:10:55,440 couple other things. Yeah. 12259 07:10:55,440 --> 07:10:57,350 >> But I think I'm okay lessing that to 12260 07:10:57,350 --> 07:10:57,360 » But I think I'm okay lessing that to 12261 07:10:57,360 --> 07:10:59,680 maybe 200,000 that's cuts us back 12262 07:10:59,680 --> 07:11:02,320 another 100,000. I disagree with any if 12263 07:11:02,320 --> 07:11:04,000 we're if we're upgrading the park next 12264 07:11:04,000 --> 07:11:05,760 year, let's do that and then the 12265 07:11:05,760 --> 07:11:07,600 following year 12266 07:11:07,600 --> 07:11:09,280 when we've got a little bit more money 12267 07:11:09,280 --> 07:11:11,680 maybe or if we prepare to go to a bond 12268 07:11:11,680 --> 07:11:13,520 for the roads because truly I see us 12269 07:11:13,520 --> 07:11:14,798 we're going to have to at some point go 12270 07:11:14,798 --> 07:11:17,120 to a bond for the roads. Hopefully we're 12271 07:11:17,120 --> 07:11:19,040 not funding all of it. Hopefully our 12272 07:11:19,040 --> 07:11:21,280 partners are working with us. But 12273 07:11:21,280 --> 07:11:23,030 >> I think let's take off the 300,000. 12274 07:11:23,030 --> 07:11:23,040 » I think let's take off the 300,000. 12275 07:11:23,040 --> 07:11:24,798 That'll get us closer to what what 12276 07:11:24,798 --> 07:11:26,320 you're talking about. I think we need to 12277 07:11:26,320 --> 07:11:28,400 do everything that Mike talked about for 12278 07:11:28,400 --> 07:11:29,680 the public works building. And I don't 12279 07:11:29,680 --> 07:11:31,760 agree with taking 300,000 off. I'm okay 12280 07:11:31,760 --> 07:11:34,718 with taking some, but if if the if it 12281 07:11:34,718 --> 07:11:36,878 doesn't get funded by the EDC, we're 12282 07:11:36,878 --> 07:11:38,160 just assuming it's going to. It might 12283 07:11:38,160 --> 07:11:39,360 not. Then they need those funds 12284 07:11:39,360 --> 07:11:42,548 available. 12285 07:11:42,558 --> 07:11:44,478 » We can request it from the EDC. Right. 12286 07:11:44,478 --> 07:11:46,230 >> Right. And they can refuse it. So, I 12287 07:11:46,230 --> 07:11:46,240 » Right. And they can refuse it. So, I 12288 07:11:46,240 --> 07:11:47,600 mean, that's just giving them another 12289 07:11:47,600 --> 07:11:49,600 option. It might not even be used. I 12290 07:11:49,600 --> 07:11:50,000 mean, 12291 07:11:50,000 --> 07:11:53,830 >> if the EDC's fund it, we 12292 07:11:53,830 --> 07:11:53,840 » if the EDC's fund it, we 12293 07:11:53,840 --> 07:11:55,520 part of the reason we put this in here 12294 07:11:55,520 --> 07:11:57,920 was so that we because if we're going to 12295 07:11:57,920 --> 07:11:59,360 pay for it, they're going to pay us 12296 07:11:59,360 --> 07:12:04,080 back. Um, which would be a wash. 12297 07:12:04,080 --> 07:12:04,478 Um, 12298 07:12:04,478 --> 07:12:06,150 >> but we don't have it of us getting paid 12299 07:12:06,150 --> 07:12:06,160 » but we don't have it of us getting paid 12300 07:12:06,160 --> 07:12:08,798 back right now. Correct. We just have it 12301 07:12:08,798 --> 07:12:10,080 as an expense. 12302 07:12:10,080 --> 07:12:13,030 >> Uh, no. I believe it's in the EDC's 12303 07:12:13,030 --> 07:12:13,040 » Uh, no. I believe it's in the EDC's 12304 07:12:13,040 --> 07:12:15,920 for I believe it's in there for the 12305 07:12:15,920 --> 07:12:18,798 whole thing. I I think they the EDC I 12306 07:12:18,798 --> 07:12:20,400 think approved it. I don't know the park 12307 07:12:20,400 --> 07:12:21,200 wants to. 12308 07:12:21,200 --> 07:12:22,788 >> Is there any other items that y'all like 12309 07:12:22,788 --> 07:12:22,798 » Is there any other items that y'all like 12310 07:12:22,798 --> 07:12:24,478 I'm just looking at like I said 180 12311 07:12:24,478 --> 07:12:25,760 taking off for the house of park 12312 07:12:25,760 --> 07:12:29,200 reinforcement 100,000 for the town hall 12313 07:12:29,200 --> 07:12:30,878 vision. 12314 07:12:30,878 --> 07:12:33,360 Um 12315 07:12:33,360 --> 07:12:35,680 possibly reducing like I said the public 12316 07:12:35,680 --> 07:12:37,840 works by a little bit maybe not. You you 12317 07:12:37,840 --> 07:12:40,160 don't want to do that. So um is there 12318 07:12:40,160 --> 07:12:41,760 anything else that you see that could be 12319 07:12:41,760 --> 07:12:43,270 >> I disagree with the 100,000 for the town 12320 07:12:43,270 --> 07:12:43,280 » I disagree with the 100,000 for the town 12321 07:12:43,280 --> 07:12:44,638 hall. We have to prepare for the 12322 07:12:44,638 --> 07:12:45,760 employees that we're going to have or 12323 07:12:45,760 --> 07:12:46,878 we're going to continue to have more and 12324 07:12:46,878 --> 07:12:48,320 more rent. Like we have to start 12325 07:12:48,320 --> 07:12:49,040 locating, 12326 07:12:49,040 --> 07:12:50,548 >> but that could come out of contingency 12327 07:12:50,548 --> 07:12:50,558 » but that could come out of contingency 12328 07:12:50,558 --> 07:12:53,280 once Mr. um Anderson lets us know what 12329 07:12:53,280 --> 07:12:57,360 the cost would be with his associate. 12330 07:12:57,360 --> 07:12:58,708 >> I don't know if it needs to be budgeted 12331 07:12:58,708 --> 07:12:58,718 » I don't know if it needs to be budgeted 12332 07:12:58,718 --> 07:13:00,160 is all I'm saying. 12333 07:13:00,160 --> 07:13:02,628 >> As y'all have this discussion, I want to 12334 07:13:02,628 --> 07:13:02,638 » As y'all have this discussion, I want to 12335 07:13:02,638 --> 07:13:05,840 with regard to at the bottom of the page 12336 07:13:05,840 --> 07:13:08,958 here, the bottom very bottom right is 12337 07:13:08,958 --> 07:13:11,920 your reserve amount. You know why? You 12338 07:13:11,920 --> 07:13:13,760 know, which what's the amount? 12339 07:13:13,760 --> 07:13:16,310 >> The reserve amount that you see is for 12340 07:13:16,310 --> 07:13:16,320 » The reserve amount that you see is for 12341 07:13:16,320 --> 07:13:18,000 4,900 12342 07:13:18,000 --> 07:13:19,920 or 894,000 12343 07:13:19,920 --> 07:13:21,360 right now. 12344 07:13:21,360 --> 07:13:22,390 >> You know, 12345 07:13:22,390 --> 07:13:22,400 » You know, 12346 07:13:22,400 --> 07:13:25,270 >> it's 295. 12347 07:13:25,270 --> 07:13:25,280 » it's 295. 12348 07:13:25,280 --> 07:13:26,708 >> I got the wrong one. 12349 07:13:26,708 --> 07:13:26,718 » I got the wrong one. 12350 07:13:26,718 --> 07:13:27,110 >> Yes. 12351 07:13:27,110 --> 07:13:27,120 » Yes. 12352 07:13:27,120 --> 07:13:28,468 >> I also think we could reduce the 12353 07:13:28,468 --> 07:13:28,478 » I also think we could reduce the 12354 07:13:28,478 --> 07:13:30,320 contingency to the contingency is at 1 12355 07:13:30,320 --> 07:13:31,600 million, right? 12356 07:13:31,600 --> 07:13:33,270 >> Oh my gosh. 12357 07:13:33,270 --> 07:13:33,280 » Oh my gosh. 12358 07:13:33,280 --> 07:13:34,150 >> Are you serious? 12359 07:13:34,150 --> 07:13:34,160 » Are you serious? 12360 07:13:34,160 --> 07:13:35,510 >> Contingencies at 1 million. 12361 07:13:35,510 --> 07:13:35,520 » Contingencies at 1 million. 12362 07:13:35,520 --> 07:13:38,310 >> Okay, let me make maybe this is more 12363 07:13:38,310 --> 07:13:38,320 » Okay, let me make maybe this is more 12364 07:13:38,320 --> 07:13:41,200 relevant now. you know the importance of 12365 07:13:41,200 --> 07:13:44,478 that number right there as I was showing 12366 07:13:44,478 --> 07:13:46,478 you earlier 12367 07:13:46,478 --> 07:13:50,080 uh with regard to the fire department. 12368 07:13:50,080 --> 07:13:51,350 >> Which number are you talking about Mr. 12369 07:13:51,350 --> 07:13:51,360 » Which number are you talking about Mr. 12370 07:13:51,360 --> 07:13:51,840 Mayor? 12371 07:13:51,840 --> 07:13:53,910 >> He's saying we are one emergency away 12372 07:13:53,910 --> 07:13:53,920 » He's saying we are one emergency away 12373 07:13:53,920 --> 07:13:55,680 like just needing a fire truck. Say our 12374 07:13:55,680 --> 07:13:57,680 fire truck breaks down tomorrow. We have 12375 07:13:57,680 --> 07:13:58,400 a problem. 12376 07:13:58,400 --> 07:14:02,948 >> Yes. So let me is my comment is trying 12377 07:14:02,948 --> 07:14:02,958 » Yes. So let me is my comment is trying 12378 07:14:02,958 --> 07:14:06,558 to keep this number up gives us the 12379 07:14:06,558 --> 07:14:10,478 ability to pay cash for things like this 12380 07:14:10,478 --> 07:14:12,798 fire department vehicles over the next 12381 07:14:12,798 --> 07:14:16,240 10 years reasonably pay cash for it and 12382 07:14:16,240 --> 07:14:19,280 keep it off a bond 12383 07:14:19,280 --> 07:14:22,160 that reserve number as we go out you 12384 07:14:22,160 --> 07:14:25,120 know and each year last year this last 12385 07:14:25,120 --> 07:14:27,440 budget year we didn't do it we would go 12386 07:14:27,440 --> 07:14:28,878 up historically 12387 07:14:28,878 --> 07:14:33,040 uh 7.99 and that would reap us almost 12388 07:14:33,040 --> 07:14:35,920 $500,000 a year. And as you can see over 12389 07:14:35,920 --> 07:14:38,878 the years that reserve fund got built up 12390 07:14:38,878 --> 07:14:41,200 pretty well and then we decided, okay, 12391 07:14:41,200 --> 07:14:43,040 we need to start spending some of that 12392 07:14:43,040 --> 07:14:47,040 reserves then which we did. Okay, but 12393 07:14:47,040 --> 07:14:49,280 we're getting pretty steep on the 12394 07:14:49,280 --> 07:14:52,718 negative side right now. So I'm asking 12395 07:14:52,718 --> 07:14:55,360 you to please keep that in mind why that 12396 07:14:55,360 --> 07:14:59,040 reserve number is important. 12397 07:14:59,040 --> 07:14:59,840 Oh, go ahead. 12398 07:14:59,840 --> 07:15:01,430 >> Is the reserve number the nine? 12399 07:15:01,430 --> 07:15:01,440 » Is the reserve number the nine? 12400 07:15:01,440 --> 07:15:02,788 >> No, it's the 2.9. 12401 07:15:02,788 --> 07:15:02,798 » No, it's the 2.9. 12402 07:15:02,798 --> 07:15:04,150 >> The 2.9. That's what you're talking 12403 07:15:04,150 --> 07:15:04,160 » The 2.9. That's what you're talking 12404 07:15:04,160 --> 07:15:04,320 about. 12405 07:15:04,320 --> 07:15:05,590 >> That's how much you're about to drop it 12406 07:15:05,590 --> 07:15:05,600 » That's how much you're about to drop it 12407 07:15:05,600 --> 07:15:06,638 by. 12408 07:15:06,638 --> 07:15:09,430 >> We were at 17 million in 2025 and we're 12409 07:15:09,430 --> 07:15:09,440 » We were at 17 million in 2025 and we're 12410 07:15:09,440 --> 07:15:10,878 about to drop it to just under three 12411 07:15:10,878 --> 07:15:24,948 million. 12412 07:15:24,958 --> 07:15:26,320 » Because we could change a contingency, 12413 07:15:26,320 --> 07:15:27,600 too. That's a million dollars in 12414 07:15:27,600 --> 07:15:30,718 contingency. That could be 5%. 12415 07:15:30,718 --> 07:15:31,350 >> Or nothing 12416 07:15:31,350 --> 07:15:31,360 » Or nothing 12417 07:15:31,360 --> 07:15:33,510 >> and give us 500. I mean, or nothing. 12418 07:15:33,510 --> 07:15:33,520 » and give us 500. I mean, or nothing. 12419 07:15:33,520 --> 07:15:35,520 You're right. Or nothing. 12420 07:15:35,520 --> 07:15:36,868 >> We didn't used to have it before. We 12421 07:15:36,868 --> 07:15:36,878 » We didn't used to have it before. We 12422 07:15:36,878 --> 07:15:39,520 never had it until Mayor Holy. But but I 12423 07:15:39,520 --> 07:15:41,520 do think it serves some purpose. Um 12424 07:15:41,520 --> 07:15:43,200 maybe not at 12425 07:15:43,200 --> 07:15:46,070 >> maybe not 10%, but 5% would be 500,000 12426 07:15:46,070 --> 07:15:46,080 » maybe not 10%, but 5% would be 500,000 12427 07:15:46,080 --> 07:15:48,478 back in. I let me tell you the purpose 12428 07:15:48,478 --> 07:15:51,830 that it serves is that as a contingency 12429 07:15:51,830 --> 07:15:52,400 [clears throat] 12430 07:15:52,400 --> 07:15:54,798 a budgeted item line item here of 12431 07:15:54,798 --> 07:15:56,400 contingency 12432 07:15:56,400 --> 07:15:59,200 it is part of this general fund. Now 12433 07:15:59,200 --> 07:16:00,718 let's say there's something that comes 12434 07:16:00,718 --> 07:16:05,600 up throughout the year and you need 12435 07:16:05,600 --> 07:16:08,638 $300,000 for 12436 07:16:08,638 --> 07:16:10,638 and 12437 07:16:10,638 --> 07:16:13,680 there's nowhere among all these items 12438 07:16:13,680 --> 07:16:16,000 within the budget. So you can make 12439 07:16:16,000 --> 07:16:19,520 changes within the budget without a 12440 07:16:19,520 --> 07:16:20,958 budget amendment. 12441 07:16:20,958 --> 07:16:22,548 >> I I understand what it what 12442 07:16:22,548 --> 07:16:22,558 » I I understand what it what 12443 07:16:22,558 --> 07:16:24,708 >> is you can pull from that contingency 12444 07:16:24,708 --> 07:16:24,718 » is you can pull from that contingency 12445 07:16:24,718 --> 07:16:26,798 without a budget amendment. That's the 12446 07:16:26,798 --> 07:16:27,520 purpose of it. 12447 07:16:27,520 --> 07:16:29,030 >> Right. And I I understand what work 12448 07:16:29,030 --> 07:16:29,040 » Right. And I I understand what work 12449 07:16:29,040 --> 07:16:31,040 contingency means. I think I remember 12450 07:16:31,040 --> 07:16:33,760 originally proposed it was 20 thou 20% 12451 07:16:33,760 --> 07:16:36,080 or maybe 15 but we decided 10 as a 12452 07:16:36,080 --> 07:16:38,000 council. So we can decide less as a 12453 07:16:38,000 --> 07:16:40,478 council. Now, if we go to 5%, it gives 12454 07:16:40,478 --> 07:16:42,958 us 500,000 still in there, and then puts 12455 07:16:42,958 --> 07:16:45,680 500,000 back in the um reserve. And then 12456 07:16:45,680 --> 07:16:48,638 if we take off off a few things, 180 12457 07:16:48,638 --> 07:16:51,360 here, 100 there, 200 here, then we're 12458 07:16:51,360 --> 07:16:53,760 really whittling away down at the the 12459 07:16:53,760 --> 07:16:55,440 cost. 12460 07:16:55,440 --> 07:16:57,600 And then go up to 7.99. What does that 12461 07:16:57,600 --> 07:16:59,040 how much extra does that or how much 12462 07:16:59,040 --> 07:17:00,160 does that produce for us? 12463 07:17:00,160 --> 07:17:02,468 >> $40,000. 12464 07:17:02,468 --> 07:17:02,478 » $40,000. 12465 07:17:02,478 --> 07:17:03,910 >> $44,000. 12466 07:17:03,910 --> 07:17:03,920 » $44,000. 12467 07:17:03,920 --> 07:17:05,190 >> Because he already had a lot of it baked 12468 07:17:05,190 --> 07:17:05,200 » Because he already had a lot of it baked 12469 07:17:05,200 --> 07:17:05,920 in here already, 12470 07:17:05,920 --> 07:17:07,990 >> Marcy, what point do you think is 12471 07:17:07,990 --> 07:17:08,000 » Marcy, what point do you think is 12472 07:17:08,000 --> 07:17:10,400 necessary to keep 12473 07:17:10,400 --> 07:17:13,350 >> the not contingency the the the reserve 12474 07:17:13,350 --> 07:17:13,360 » the not contingency the the the reserve 12475 07:17:13,360 --> 07:17:15,600 surplus where where do you think we need 12476 07:17:15,600 --> 07:17:17,280 to be as a city 12477 07:17:17,280 --> 07:17:19,510 >> off of your experience? 12478 07:17:19,510 --> 07:17:19,520 » off of your experience? 12479 07:17:19,520 --> 07:17:23,590 >> Well, the the target that we have is 50% 12480 07:17:23,590 --> 07:17:23,600 » Well, the the target that we have is 50% 12481 07:17:23,600 --> 07:17:28,240 at 5.2 million and that's that's part of 12482 07:17:28,240 --> 07:17:31,120 it. Now, this reserve surplus is the 12483 07:17:31,120 --> 07:17:32,638 2.9. 12484 07:17:32,638 --> 07:17:37,120 So, technically if you're reserving 5.2 12485 07:17:37,120 --> 07:17:38,718 two 12486 07:17:38,718 --> 07:17:40,718 um you're you're reserving that already. 12487 07:17:40,718 --> 07:17:42,878 If you look at the contingency, you 12488 07:17:42,878 --> 07:17:44,558 could add to that number if you reduced 12489 07:17:44,558 --> 07:17:47,600 it. That would raise that bottom number. 12490 07:17:47,600 --> 07:17:54,478 Um that the contingency and the target 12491 07:17:54,478 --> 07:17:57,200 uh have been policies of the council. So 12492 07:17:57,200 --> 07:18:00,080 if you don't feel that you need, you 12493 07:18:00,080 --> 07:18:02,240 know, that much of a target in your fund 12494 07:18:02,240 --> 07:18:08,788 balance, but if you if you'll look um 12495 07:18:08,798 --> 07:18:11,200 back historically, 12496 07:18:11,200 --> 07:18:14,160 I mean, you're you're still above the 12497 07:18:14,160 --> 07:18:16,878 target that you've had before, although 12498 07:18:16,878 --> 07:18:19,120 you're and and part of that is because 12499 07:18:19,120 --> 07:18:23,520 we did put fund 19 back in here. 12500 07:18:23,520 --> 07:18:25,280 Um, 12501 07:18:25,280 --> 07:18:27,600 so 12502 07:18:27,600 --> 07:18:29,520 you know, typically 12503 07:18:29,520 --> 07:18:31,680 you would look at an emergency reserve 12504 07:18:31,680 --> 07:18:34,638 of something to be 12505 07:18:34,638 --> 07:18:37,440 at least 90 to 120 days of your 12506 07:18:37,440 --> 07:18:39,280 operations. 12507 07:18:39,280 --> 07:18:41,280 Um, because if you were shut down for 12508 07:18:41,280 --> 07:18:44,080 some some reason, had a disaster or 12509 07:18:44,080 --> 07:18:47,280 something like that. But that's really a 12510 07:18:47,280 --> 07:18:49,040 a 12511 07:18:49,040 --> 07:18:50,558 you know it's really up to council what 12512 07:18:50,558 --> 07:18:53,760 you want your fund balance to be. I when 12513 07:18:53,760 --> 07:18:58,878 I first came on um it was probably in 12514 07:18:58,878 --> 07:19:01,600 the bottom line number was probably in 12515 07:19:01,600 --> 07:19:04,638 the million range. So we have made a lot 12516 07:19:04,638 --> 07:19:07,600 of progress. I would hate to see it go 12517 07:19:07,600 --> 07:19:09,600 down much further than 12518 07:19:09,600 --> 07:19:11,670 >> So you would say like this would be the 12519 07:19:11,670 --> 07:19:11,680 » So you would say like this would be the 12520 07:19:11,680 --> 07:19:12,718 bottom line after this? 12521 07:19:12,718 --> 07:19:14,868 >> Yeah I think this is pretty bottom line. 12522 07:19:14,868 --> 07:19:14,878 » Yeah I think this is pretty bottom line. 12523 07:19:14,878 --> 07:19:17,280 Yeah, I remember Mr. Quinn was pretty he 12524 07:19:17,280 --> 07:19:18,400 was pretty big on 12525 07:19:18,400 --> 07:19:19,990 >> Yeah. And I want to get your 12526 07:19:19,990 --> 07:19:20,000 » Yeah. And I want to get your 12527 07:19:20,000 --> 07:19:22,948 >> once again, not to belabor the fact, but 12528 07:19:22,948 --> 07:19:22,958 » once again, not to belabor the fact, but 12529 07:19:22,958 --> 07:19:24,320 um and not to pick on the fire 12530 07:19:24,320 --> 07:19:25,920 department, but we build in some things 12531 07:19:25,920 --> 07:19:27,600 last year 12532 07:19:27,600 --> 07:19:31,350 >> that that keep on going. I mean, they're 12533 07:19:31,350 --> 07:19:31,360 » that that keep on going. I mean, they're 12534 07:19:31,360 --> 07:19:34,478 the gifts that keep on giving. So any 12535 07:19:34,478 --> 07:19:38,558 any kind of increase is Yeah. it's going 12536 07:19:38,558 --> 07:19:41,840 to continue to take that if you don't 12537 07:19:41,840 --> 07:19:45,360 keep your M rate up 12538 07:19:45,360 --> 07:19:47,520 um your reserve is just going to 12539 07:19:47,520 --> 07:19:49,760 continue to go down unless you 12540 07:19:49,760 --> 07:19:52,400 drastically reduce your capital or as 12541 07:19:52,400 --> 07:19:54,718 the mayor mentioned issue some debt to 12542 07:19:54,718 --> 07:19:56,478 fund something. So you think if we were 12543 07:19:56,478 --> 07:19:58,080 to keep everything we have it, keep this 12544 07:19:58,080 --> 07:19:59,760 as it is right now, you would just 12545 07:19:59,760 --> 07:20:02,320 highly encourage that we're next year 12546 07:20:02,320 --> 07:20:04,320 considering either a bond or an increase 12547 07:20:04,320 --> 07:20:05,760 to the the M 12548 07:20:05,760 --> 07:20:08,150 >> or you consider a bond this year? 12549 07:20:08,150 --> 07:20:08,160 » or you consider a bond this year? 12550 07:20:08,160 --> 07:20:08,548 >> Yeah. 12551 07:20:08,548 --> 07:20:08,558 » Yeah. 12552 07:20:08,558 --> 07:20:09,670 >> We're not ready for a bond. 12553 07:20:09,670 --> 07:20:09,680 » We're not ready for a bond. 12554 07:20:09,680 --> 07:20:10,310 >> Or we take 12555 07:20:10,310 --> 07:20:10,320 » Or we take 12556 07:20:10,320 --> 07:20:11,990 >> Well, you don't know that you're not. 12557 07:20:11,990 --> 07:20:12,000 » Well, you don't know that you're not. 12558 07:20:12,000 --> 07:20:14,150 >> Or we take off some items. We we reduce 12559 07:20:14,150 --> 07:20:14,160 » Or we take off some items. We we reduce 12560 07:20:14,160 --> 07:20:16,160 the contingency and that gets us about 12561 07:20:16,160 --> 07:20:18,080 $700,000 more in our 12562 07:20:18,080 --> 07:20:19,270 >> I'm sorry. Say that one more time. 12563 07:20:19,270 --> 07:20:19,280 » I'm sorry. Say that one more time. 12564 07:20:19,280 --> 07:20:21,830 >> You reduce the contingency by 5%. That 12565 07:20:21,830 --> 07:20:21,840 » You reduce the contingency by 5%. That 12566 07:20:21,840 --> 07:20:25,200 gives us $528,000 to add back in. And 12567 07:20:25,200 --> 07:20:27,840 then we take off the 180. Maybe that's 12568 07:20:27,840 --> 07:20:29,920 it. 12569 07:20:29,920 --> 07:20:32,878 And that gives us even more. 12570 07:20:32,878 --> 07:20:34,390 >> Does it matter? Oh, I'm so sorry. Go 12571 07:20:34,390 --> 07:20:34,400 » Does it matter? Oh, I'm so sorry. Go 12572 07:20:34,400 --> 07:20:35,760 ahead. 12573 07:20:35,760 --> 07:20:38,868 >> Um, [clears throat] 12574 07:20:38,878 --> 07:20:41,040 Miss Wise just asked, "Will we do it for 12575 07:20:41,040 --> 07:20:42,478 a bond?" You said, "Well, you don't know 12576 07:20:42,478 --> 07:20:47,040 that yet, but it's at the end of August 12577 07:20:47,040 --> 07:20:48,718 or 12578 07:20:48,718 --> 07:20:51,120 uh, you know, 1 of August. The 12579 07:20:51,120 --> 07:20:53,120 election's in the 1 of November. So in 12580 07:20:53,120 --> 07:20:54,878 like two months we'll have an election. 12581 07:20:54,878 --> 07:20:57,760 So can we get a bond ready by in less 12582 07:20:57,760 --> 07:20:59,920 than two months? 12583 07:20:59,920 --> 07:21:01,190 >> 17th of this month. 12584 07:21:01,190 --> 07:21:01,200 » 17th of this month. 12585 07:21:01,200 --> 07:21:03,590 >> Okay. So we have so we have we have we 12586 07:21:03,590 --> 07:21:03,600 » Okay. So we have so we have we have we 12587 07:21:03,600 --> 07:21:04,320 have nine days. 12588 07:21:04,320 --> 07:21:07,350 >> We would need to notify the county that 12589 07:21:07,350 --> 07:21:07,360 » We would need to notify the county that 12590 07:21:07,360 --> 07:21:09,440 we're going to have an election. That's 12591 07:21:09,440 --> 07:21:11,360 what that date is. 12592 07:21:11,360 --> 07:21:15,430 >> But yes, they could Hilltop could get a 12593 07:21:15,430 --> 07:21:15,440 » But yes, they could Hilltop could get a 12594 07:21:15,440 --> 07:21:17,600 bond ready if you knew the amount what 12595 07:21:17,600 --> 07:21:18,878 you're going to use it for. 12596 07:21:18,878 --> 07:21:20,708 >> When when is that when is that like when 12597 07:21:20,708 --> 07:21:20,718 » When when is that when is that like when 12598 07:21:20,718 --> 07:21:22,160 do we need to have that done by? If that 12599 07:21:22,160 --> 07:21:24,558 was the case, 12600 07:21:24,558 --> 07:21:27,030 >> it would be tight for them to do that. 12601 07:21:27,030 --> 07:21:27,040 » it would be tight for them to do that. 12602 07:21:27,040 --> 07:21:28,628 >> So, would you feel more comfortable with 12603 07:21:28,628 --> 07:21:28,638 » So, would you feel more comfortable with 12604 07:21:28,638 --> 07:21:31,680 the 3.664902? 12605 07:21:31,680 --> 07:21:32,868 >> I'm sorry. Say 12606 07:21:32,868 --> 07:21:32,878 » I'm sorry. Say 12607 07:21:32,878 --> 07:21:34,708 >> 3.664 12608 07:21:34,708 --> 07:21:34,718 » 3.664 12609 07:21:34,718 --> 07:21:36,080 instead of two. Instead of looking at 12610 07:21:36,080 --> 07:21:38,638 the 2956, it'd be 3664. 12611 07:21:38,638 --> 07:21:39,590 >> She's making it. 12612 07:21:39,590 --> 07:21:39,600 » She's making it. 12613 07:21:39,600 --> 07:21:40,708 >> Yeah, I'm just adding numbers. 12614 07:21:40,708 --> 07:21:40,718 » Yeah, I'm just adding numbers. 12615 07:21:40,718 --> 07:21:41,910 >> Doesn't matter where it is, whether it 12616 07:21:41,910 --> 07:21:41,920 » Doesn't matter where it is, whether it 12617 07:21:41,920 --> 07:21:43,520 be in the contingency or the reserve 12618 07:21:43,520 --> 07:21:45,040 surplus. Isn't that all sitting to the 12619 07:21:45,040 --> 07:21:46,478 side anyway? Does it really matter? 12620 07:21:46,478 --> 07:21:47,350 >> That's what you're saying. 12621 07:21:47,350 --> 07:21:47,360 » That's what you're saying. 12622 07:21:47,360 --> 07:21:48,628 >> Where it's located? 12623 07:21:48,628 --> 07:21:48,638 » Where it's located? 12624 07:21:48,638 --> 07:21:49,510 >> That's just what you're moving. It's 12625 07:21:49,510 --> 07:21:49,520 » That's just what you're moving. It's 12626 07:21:49,520 --> 07:21:50,798 just moving from there to there. Yeah. 12627 07:21:50,798 --> 07:21:51,760 But it looks better. 12628 07:21:51,760 --> 07:21:52,788 >> Still 9. 12629 07:21:52,788 --> 07:21:52,798 » Still 9. 12630 07:21:52,798 --> 07:21:54,150 >> It's still [clears throat] 12631 07:21:54,150 --> 07:21:54,160 » It's still [clears throat] 12632 07:21:54,160 --> 07:21:54,390 >> Yeah, 12633 07:21:54,390 --> 07:21:54,400 » Yeah, 12634 07:21:54,400 --> 07:21:55,430 >> that's what you're saying. It's still 12635 07:21:55,430 --> 07:21:55,440 » that's what you're saying. It's still 12636 07:21:55,440 --> 07:21:56,160 3.9 12637 07:21:56,160 --> 07:21:57,430 >> 9.3 million at 12638 07:21:57,430 --> 07:21:57,440 » 9.3 million at 12639 07:21:57,440 --> 07:21:59,110 >> Yeah. I just think as we move through 12640 07:21:59,110 --> 07:21:59,120 » Yeah. I just think as we move through 12641 07:21:59,120 --> 07:22:00,958 the next year, if we leave this as it 12642 07:22:00,958 --> 07:22:03,120 is, as we move through this next year, 12643 07:22:03,120 --> 07:22:05,120 we need to realize 12644 07:22:05,120 --> 07:22:06,708 >> that we do not have the money for the 12645 07:22:06,708 --> 07:22:06,718 » that we do not have the money for the 12646 07:22:06,718 --> 07:22:08,958 roads that are incoming or to even 12647 07:22:08,958 --> 07:22:10,638 finish out what's required for the roads 12648 07:22:10,638 --> 07:22:14,478 next year to if you we are going to have 12649 07:22:14,478 --> 07:22:17,040 to do a bond next year as in like a year 12650 07:22:17,040 --> 07:22:18,878 from now. We need to be ready and we 12651 07:22:18,878 --> 07:22:21,040 need to be considering and getting the 12652 07:22:21,040 --> 07:22:23,520 estimates for those roads ready and 12653 07:22:23,520 --> 07:22:24,878 finding out what our partners will 12654 07:22:24,878 --> 07:22:26,558 contribute if that makes 12655 07:22:26,558 --> 07:22:28,390 >> I yes that makes 100% but 12656 07:22:28,390 --> 07:22:28,400 » I yes that makes 100% but 12657 07:22:28,400 --> 07:22:30,788 >> excuse me guys while you're talking 12658 07:22:30,788 --> 07:22:30,798 » excuse me guys while you're talking 12659 07:22:30,798 --> 07:22:34,160 about that you mentioned but also 12660 07:22:34,160 --> 07:22:35,030 >> yes you can put 12661 07:22:35,030 --> 07:22:35,040 » yes you can put 12662 07:22:35,040 --> 07:22:35,910 >> any general election 12663 07:22:35,910 --> 07:22:35,920 » any general election 12664 07:22:35,920 --> 07:22:38,580 >> we won't be ready okay so it could be 12665 07:22:38,580 --> 07:22:38,590 » we won't be ready okay so it could be 12666 07:22:38,590 --> 07:22:39,440 [clears throat] in May also 12667 07:22:39,440 --> 07:22:42,230 >> in May you should do 12668 07:22:42,230 --> 07:22:42,240 » in May you should do 12669 07:22:42,240 --> 07:22:45,110 >> have a bond 12670 07:22:45,110 --> 07:22:45,120 » have a bond 12671 07:22:45,120 --> 07:22:46,548 >> okay the only other thing I would say 12672 07:22:46,548 --> 07:22:46,558 » okay the only other thing I would say 12673 07:22:46,558 --> 07:22:48,558 with reducing the to five is you 12674 07:22:48,558 --> 07:22:52,080 wouldn't have to do a budget amendment. 12675 07:22:52,080 --> 07:22:53,590 >> Well, no. No, we want to leave at 10. 12676 07:22:53,590 --> 07:22:53,600 » Well, no. No, we want to leave at 10. 12677 07:22:53,600 --> 07:22:54,638 So, we don't have to do a budget 12678 07:22:54,638 --> 07:22:56,878 amendment, right? 12679 07:22:56,878 --> 07:22:58,150 >> Right. Is that correct? 12680 07:22:58,150 --> 07:22:58,160 » Right. Is that correct? 12681 07:22:58,160 --> 07:22:59,590 >> What's that about budget amendment? 12682 07:22:59,590 --> 07:22:59,600 » What's that about budget amendment? 12683 07:22:59,600 --> 07:23:03,750 >> I would I would like to ask um Mr. um 12684 07:23:03,750 --> 07:23:03,760 » I would I would like to ask um Mr. um 12685 07:23:03,760 --> 07:23:07,520 Ashton, what in your past as a city 12686 07:23:07,520 --> 07:23:10,000 administrator, how you feel about 12687 07:23:10,000 --> 07:23:13,440 dipping to this level? 12688 07:23:13,440 --> 07:23:15,760 uh really just echo what Marcy said and 12689 07:23:15,760 --> 07:23:19,680 in particular and then also um I believe 12690 07:23:19,680 --> 07:23:21,600 it was either Miss Wise or Mr. Kurthers 12691 07:23:21,600 --> 07:23:23,200 that 12692 07:23:23,200 --> 07:23:25,440 when you're looking at the uh 12693 07:23:25,440 --> 07:23:27,760 contingency the fund balance target 12694 07:23:27,760 --> 07:23:29,360 that's been set by the council and then 12695 07:23:29,360 --> 07:23:32,240 the reserve surplus those can all be 12696 07:23:32,240 --> 07:23:33,680 thought of as broken out and then they 12697 07:23:33,680 --> 07:23:35,360 can all be thought of as one number too. 12698 07:23:35,360 --> 07:23:38,240 So I mean you you still you still have 12699 07:23:38,240 --> 07:23:41,040 multiple layers of 12700 07:23:41,040 --> 07:23:42,240 uh 12701 07:23:42,240 --> 07:23:44,160 of different things built in as opposed 12702 07:23:44,160 --> 07:23:47,600 to just having a final reserve of of 12703 07:23:47,600 --> 07:23:50,798 that number. So, it really is like Marcy 12704 07:23:50,798 --> 07:23:52,478 said, it's it's what the council's 12705 07:23:52,478 --> 07:23:54,878 philosophy is on those numbers and 12706 07:23:54,878 --> 07:23:57,600 wanting to to adhere to those numbers. 12707 07:23:57,600 --> 07:23:59,990 >> And let me may I share you because I 12708 07:23:59,990 --> 07:24:00,000 » And let me may I share you because I 12709 07:24:00,000 --> 07:24:02,798 instituted these numbers. May I share 12710 07:24:02,798 --> 07:24:06,320 you the thought behind it? 12711 07:24:06,320 --> 07:24:09,200 is 12712 07:24:09,200 --> 07:24:13,750 one. Uh 12713 07:24:13,760 --> 07:24:17,760 contingency had been used quite often 12714 07:24:17,760 --> 07:24:22,160 prior to 2021. Some point in time the 12715 07:24:22,160 --> 07:24:25,440 council stopped using contingency but I 12716 07:24:25,440 --> 07:24:28,000 put it back in is because just like 12717 07:24:28,000 --> 07:24:30,798 these projects they don't know exactly 12718 07:24:30,798 --> 07:24:32,958 what's going to happen. We can't 12719 07:24:32,958 --> 07:24:35,680 forecast exactly what's going to happen. 12720 07:24:35,680 --> 07:24:38,638 what we'll spend on air from. We do our 12721 07:24:38,638 --> 07:24:39,680 best that we can. 12722 07:24:39,680 --> 07:24:40,868 >> I'm save. We're going to keep 12723 07:24:40,868 --> 07:24:40,878 » I'm save. We're going to keep 12724 07:24:40,878 --> 07:24:42,400 contingency. I was the only one that I 12725 07:24:42,400 --> 07:24:45,200 was the only one talking 12726 07:24:45,200 --> 07:24:46,400 not in favor of it and I'm good. 12727 07:24:46,400 --> 07:24:47,440 Everybody else is good. So, we're good 12728 07:24:47,440 --> 07:24:48,160 with contingency. 12729 07:24:48,160 --> 07:24:50,150 >> Okay. I I just wanted to explain 12730 07:24:50,150 --> 07:24:50,160 » Okay. I I just wanted to explain 12731 07:24:50,160 --> 07:24:52,390 >> more. We got it. I mean, we're good with 12732 07:24:52,390 --> 07:24:52,400 » more. We got it. I mean, we're good with 12733 07:24:52,400 --> 07:24:53,760 contingency. We're going to keep it in. 12734 07:24:53,760 --> 07:24:55,040 And you like you mentioned there's no 12735 07:24:55,040 --> 07:24:56,320 budget amendment. 12736 07:24:56,320 --> 07:24:59,430 >> The uh target of 50%. 12737 07:24:59,430 --> 07:24:59,440 » The uh target of 50%. 12738 07:24:59,440 --> 07:25:00,548 >> We're good. I think we're good with 12739 07:25:00,548 --> 07:25:00,558 » We're good. I think we're good with 12740 07:25:00,558 --> 07:25:01,760 that, too. 12741 07:25:01,760 --> 07:25:03,830 >> You're good with the target of 50%. 12742 07:25:03,830 --> 07:25:03,840 » You're good with the target of 50%. 12743 07:25:03,840 --> 07:25:05,430 >> Yeah. we were just visually looking at 12744 07:25:05,430 --> 07:25:05,440 » Yeah. we were just visually looking at 12745 07:25:05,440 --> 07:25:08,240 it different that the these aren't all 12746 07:25:08,240 --> 07:25:10,160 this money is still the city's money 12747 07:25:10,160 --> 07:25:12,400 even though it's broken out it looks uh 12748 07:25:12,400 --> 07:25:14,558 less and actually it helps me because in 12749 07:25:14,558 --> 07:25:16,080 2023 12750 07:25:16,080 --> 07:25:18,160 if you look at the total of the fund 12751 07:25:18,160 --> 07:25:19,840 balance target and the reserve surplus 12752 07:25:19,840 --> 07:25:21,440 we're actually almost at the same this 12753 07:25:21,440 --> 07:25:23,120 year. So you do see a significant 12754 07:25:23,120 --> 07:25:26,240 increase but that's also when we had a 12755 07:25:26,240 --> 07:25:27,760 lot of income coming into the city. A 12756 07:25:27,760 --> 07:25:29,280 lot of homes being built but we also did 12757 07:25:29,280 --> 07:25:30,958 have a lot of expense because of that in 12758 07:25:30,958 --> 07:25:33,200 those years. So, we're almost kind of 12759 07:25:33,200 --> 07:25:35,760 balancing back out to 2023. It's just 12760 07:25:35,760 --> 07:25:38,240 broken out differently. When you look at 12761 07:25:38,240 --> 07:25:40,000 the reserve surplus, it looks a little 12762 07:25:40,000 --> 07:25:41,840 scary. And that kind of shocked me cuz 12763 07:25:41,840 --> 07:25:45,440 it went 9.6 10 17 and now we're down to 12764 07:25:45,440 --> 07:25:47,680 two. But then once I saw it's because 12765 07:25:47,680 --> 07:25:49,040 they had been moved to separate 12766 07:25:49,040 --> 07:25:52,558 accounts, it's a little less. It's It's 12767 07:25:52,558 --> 07:25:53,520 easier to digest. 12768 07:25:53,520 --> 07:25:54,788 >> My question is, is there anything we 12769 07:25:54,788 --> 07:25:54,798 » My question is, is there anything we 12770 07:25:54,798 --> 07:25:57,120 want to take off now or we want to 12771 07:25:57,120 --> 07:25:58,558 That's my question. I just want to 12772 07:25:58,558 --> 07:26:01,600 mention one other thing that's when 12773 07:26:01,600 --> 07:26:03,200 you're talking about the tax rate. I 12774 07:26:03,200 --> 07:26:05,200 think this is one of the more important 12775 07:26:05,200 --> 07:26:07,280 things to look at and that's if you'll 12776 07:26:07,280 --> 07:26:09,760 look at the fund balance effect the 12777 07:26:09,760 --> 07:26:11,920 increase decrease 12778 07:26:11,920 --> 07:26:15,360 that's shows you what your tax rate and 12779 07:26:15,360 --> 07:26:18,240 all your revenues are actually covering 12780 07:26:18,240 --> 07:26:20,718 toward your operations. 12781 07:26:20,718 --> 07:26:24,160 And part of the reason that um your 12782 07:26:24,160 --> 07:26:27,840 operating expense um has gone up over 12783 07:26:27,840 --> 07:26:31,280 the years, particularly the last uh 12784 07:26:31,280 --> 07:26:34,638 three or four, is because the mayor has 12785 07:26:34,638 --> 07:26:38,000 um put in raises, the council's put in 12786 07:26:38,000 --> 07:26:41,440 raises. Um we've had additional expenses 12787 07:26:41,440 --> 07:26:45,760 for, you know, a multitude of things. Um 12788 07:26:45,760 --> 07:26:47,270 >> we've doubled the number of employees. 12789 07:26:47,270 --> 07:26:47,280 » we've doubled the number of employees. 12790 07:26:47,280 --> 07:26:48,548 >> Yes, we've doubled the number of 12791 07:26:48,548 --> 07:26:48,558 » Yes, we've doubled the number of 12792 07:26:48,558 --> 07:26:50,798 employees. Those are all recurring 12793 07:26:50,798 --> 07:26:52,878 expenses. And if you look at this right 12794 07:26:52,878 --> 07:26:56,240 hand column, uh you're only covering all 12795 07:26:56,240 --> 07:27:00,878 those expenses right now um at 653,000 12796 07:27:00,878 --> 07:27:04,240 to the good. So that's the number in the 12797 07:27:04,240 --> 07:27:07,120 future that's really the most important 12798 07:27:07,120 --> 07:27:10,000 because you can fund your capital with 12799 07:27:10,000 --> 07:27:12,478 other financing mechanisms, but you 12800 07:27:12,478 --> 07:27:16,080 really can't fund your M with much else 12801 07:27:16,080 --> 07:27:20,160 unless we get the sales tax. Um and you 12802 07:27:20,160 --> 07:27:20,798 know unless 12803 07:27:20,798 --> 07:27:21,990 >> all goes back to sales tax. 12804 07:27:21,990 --> 07:27:22,000 » all goes back to sales tax. 12805 07:27:22,000 --> 07:27:25,430 >> Yeah. Unless we um keep our tax rate 12806 07:27:25,430 --> 07:27:25,440 » Yeah. Unless we um keep our tax rate 12807 07:27:25,440 --> 07:27:28,878 sufficient to cover those and it it you 12808 07:27:28,878 --> 07:27:31,280 know to me it it's not necessarily are 12809 07:27:31,280 --> 07:27:32,798 you raising rates, are you lowering 12810 07:27:32,798 --> 07:27:35,840 rates? You know I know politically for 12811 07:27:35,840 --> 07:27:38,478 you all that that's a hard thing but to 12812 07:27:38,478 --> 07:27:40,478 have a rate that's sufficient to cover 12813 07:27:40,478 --> 07:27:42,958 your expenses there's nothing wrong with 12814 07:27:42,958 --> 07:27:45,520 that. that's that's fiscally responsible 12815 07:27:45,520 --> 07:27:47,360 to make sure that you can cover your 12816 07:27:47,360 --> 07:27:49,520 expenses. So, I almost think that that's 12817 07:27:49,520 --> 07:27:52,320 really a more important number than the 12818 07:27:52,320 --> 07:27:55,840 capital. Capital's a one-time hit and 12819 07:27:55,840 --> 07:27:57,840 you know, you do have other ways to 12820 07:27:57,840 --> 07:28:01,280 finance it. So, I just wanted to I just 12821 07:28:01,280 --> 07:28:02,000 wanted to say that 12822 07:28:02,000 --> 07:28:03,830 >> I'm good with the 7.99. 12823 07:28:03,830 --> 07:28:03,840 » I'm good with the 7.99. 12824 07:28:03,840 --> 07:28:06,070 >> Marcy, thank you for validating my sales 12825 07:28:06,070 --> 07:28:06,080 » Marcy, thank you for validating my sales 12826 07:28:06,080 --> 07:28:08,708 tax. I appreciate that. 12827 07:28:08,714 --> 07:28:08,718 [laughter] 12828 07:28:08,718 --> 07:28:09,350 >> I agree. 12829 07:28:09,350 --> 07:28:09,360 » I agree. 12830 07:28:09,360 --> 07:28:10,388 >> I'm just going to keep going. 12831 07:28:10,388 --> 07:28:10,398 » I'm just going to keep going. 12832 07:28:10,398 --> 07:28:12,230 >> Do you you agree? I agree with the 12833 07:28:12,230 --> 07:28:12,240 » Do you you agree? I agree with the 12834 07:28:12,240 --> 07:28:14,638 7.990. I just want to make sure all as 12835 07:28:14,638 --> 07:28:17,120 council we're aware and working towards 12836 07:28:17,120 --> 07:28:18,478 a bond's going to be required for these 12837 07:28:18,478 --> 07:28:20,558 roads and it's we got to put in work to 12838 07:28:20,558 --> 07:28:21,440 have it ready next year. 12839 07:28:21,440 --> 07:28:23,510 >> We knew that a long time ago. 12840 07:28:23,510 --> 07:28:23,520 » We knew that a long time ago. 12841 07:28:23,520 --> 07:28:24,070 >> It's 12842 07:28:24,070 --> 07:28:24,080 » It's 12843 07:28:24,080 --> 07:28:25,430 >> we just have to come to the conversation 12844 07:28:25,430 --> 07:28:25,440 » we just have to come to the conversation 12845 07:28:25,440 --> 07:28:27,200 and come to the realization. I mean, 12846 07:28:27,200 --> 07:28:29,440 we're not going to fund 55 million to do 12847 07:28:29,440 --> 07:28:30,718 the whole blue mound, 12848 07:28:30,718 --> 07:28:32,388 >> but we can do a smaller amount to make 12849 07:28:32,388 --> 07:28:32,398 » but we can do a smaller amount to make 12850 07:28:32,398 --> 07:28:34,320 some some serious difference 12851 07:28:34,320 --> 07:28:38,230 >> 100%. And also, yeah, other roads John 12852 07:28:38,230 --> 07:28:38,240 » 100%. And also, yeah, other roads John 12853 07:28:38,240 --> 07:28:40,240 Day is really concerning. 12854 07:28:40,240 --> 07:28:42,398 Yeah, I'm glad that 12855 07:28:42,398 --> 07:28:44,000 back in those are those two items are 12856 07:28:44,000 --> 07:28:45,600 huge to be placed back in the budget. 12857 07:28:45,600 --> 07:28:46,708 >> John Day and Blue Mountain are the 12858 07:28:46,708 --> 07:28:46,718 » John Day and Blue Mountain are the 12859 07:28:46,718 --> 07:28:47,920 priorities, right? Because that's what 12860 07:28:47,920 --> 07:28:51,040 we we are we are required to fund those 12861 07:28:51,040 --> 07:28:52,320 roads anyway. 12862 07:28:52,320 --> 07:28:54,310 >> I do think we can get assistance. I 12863 07:28:54,310 --> 07:28:54,320 » I do think we can get assistance. I 12864 07:28:54,320 --> 07:28:55,440 truly do. 12865 07:28:55,440 --> 07:28:57,110 >> John Day and the two intersections will 12866 07:28:57,110 --> 07:28:57,120 » John Day and the two intersections will 12867 07:28:57,120 --> 07:28:58,000 be huge to get those. 12868 07:28:58,000 --> 07:29:02,388 >> Absolutely. 12869 07:29:02,398 --> 07:29:03,920 » Okay. So, what do we need to do for 12870 07:29:03,920 --> 07:29:06,320 7.990? 12871 07:29:06,320 --> 07:29:08,150 >> Well, before that, are we good with not 12872 07:29:08,150 --> 07:29:08,160 » Well, before that, are we good with not 12873 07:29:08,160 --> 07:29:09,280 taking anything out? We're leaving 12874 07:29:09,280 --> 07:29:10,718 everything in. Nothing's coming back. 12875 07:29:10,718 --> 07:29:11,520 Nothing's coming out. 12876 07:29:11,520 --> 07:29:12,788 >> What I would want to take out, I don't 12877 07:29:12,788 --> 07:29:12,798 » What I would want to take out, I don't 12878 07:29:12,798 --> 07:29:14,478 think anybody else agrees. So, yes. 12879 07:29:14,478 --> 07:29:14,958 Which is what 12880 07:29:14,958 --> 07:29:17,590 >> she wants the 300 out. And I want the 12881 07:29:17,590 --> 07:29:17,600 » she wants the 300 out. And I want the 12882 07:29:17,600 --> 07:29:19,440 180 out. So, I just got Let's Let's talk 12883 07:29:19,440 --> 07:29:21,040 about it. I mean, does anybody else want 12884 07:29:21,040 --> 07:29:22,398 the 180? If not, we'll leave it. 12885 07:29:22,398 --> 07:29:23,350 >> What's the 180 again? 12886 07:29:23,350 --> 07:29:23,360 » What's the 180 again? 12887 07:29:23,360 --> 07:29:24,310 >> The park. 12888 07:29:24,310 --> 07:29:24,320 » The park. 12889 07:29:24,320 --> 07:29:26,310 >> Let me let me ask a question. I heard 12890 07:29:26,310 --> 07:29:26,320 » Let me let me ask a question. I heard 12891 07:29:26,320 --> 07:29:28,558 earlier you're going to take Hasslet 12892 07:29:28,558 --> 07:29:29,280 Park out. 12893 07:29:29,280 --> 07:29:30,388 >> We're trying to talk about that right 12894 07:29:30,388 --> 07:29:30,398 » We're trying to talk about that right 12895 07:29:30,398 --> 07:29:31,120 now. 12896 07:29:31,120 --> 07:29:34,070 >> Oh, the two items I heard was Hasslet 12897 07:29:34,070 --> 07:29:34,080 » Oh, the two items I heard was Hasslet 12898 07:29:34,080 --> 07:29:36,638 Park and then the town hall 100,000. 12899 07:29:36,638 --> 07:29:38,240 decided I think the town hall was going 12900 07:29:38,240 --> 07:29:40,398 to stay in correct as a group. 12901 07:29:40,398 --> 07:29:40,948 >> I hope so. 12902 07:29:40,948 --> 07:29:40,958 » I hope so. 12903 07:29:40,958 --> 07:29:42,628 >> I I mean I think so too. I mean thinking 12904 07:29:42,628 --> 07:29:42,638 » I I mean I think so too. I mean thinking 12905 07:29:42,638 --> 07:29:44,718 about it and 12906 07:29:44,718 --> 07:29:49,830 >> so can I ask about the 300,000 because 12907 07:29:49,840 --> 07:29:52,638 » they have 500,000 already right? 12908 07:29:52,638 --> 07:29:54,948 >> We have allocated 500,000 in the general 12909 07:29:54,948 --> 07:29:54,958 » We have allocated 500,000 in the general 12910 07:29:54,958 --> 07:29:58,548 >> the 300 was not to get a bigger better 12911 07:29:58,548 --> 07:29:58,558 » the 300 was not to get a bigger better 12912 07:29:58,558 --> 07:30:00,000 park equipment. It was to do something 12913 07:30:00,000 --> 07:30:00,398 different. 12914 07:30:00,398 --> 07:30:01,270 >> No possibly. 12915 07:30:01,270 --> 07:30:01,280 » No possibly. 12916 07:30:01,280 --> 07:30:01,750 >> Possibly. 12917 07:30:01,750 --> 07:30:01,760 » Possibly. 12918 07:30:01,760 --> 07:30:02,868 >> Possibly. [snorts] But it was also for 12919 07:30:02,868 --> 07:30:02,878 » Possibly. [snorts] But it was also for 12920 07:30:02,878 --> 07:30:04,160 exercise equipment. They were want to 12921 07:30:04,160 --> 07:30:05,600 get a grant or something like that. And 12922 07:30:05,600 --> 07:30:06,958 so that that's kind of what that was 12923 07:30:06,958 --> 07:30:07,360 for. 12924 07:30:07,360 --> 07:30:08,468 >> Yeah. They were just they were just 12925 07:30:08,468 --> 07:30:08,478 » Yeah. They were just they were just 12926 07:30:08,478 --> 07:30:10,558 asking for that additional money as a um 12927 07:30:10,558 --> 07:30:12,000 as a cushion is all. 12928 07:30:12,000 --> 07:30:15,190 >> Well, let me let me ask you let me well 12929 07:30:15,190 --> 07:30:15,200 » Well, let me let me ask you let me well 12930 07:30:15,200 --> 07:30:18,638 make a comment. Think in terms of what 12931 07:30:18,638 --> 07:30:22,000 is needed? I know we're moving ahead. We 12932 07:30:22,000 --> 07:30:25,360 got to always move ahead. But which of 12933 07:30:25,360 --> 07:30:28,398 these items is needed right now? And one 12934 07:30:28,398 --> 07:30:31,840 the town hall thing. Um, 12935 07:30:31,840 --> 07:30:35,280 you're probably looking at a $25 million 12936 07:30:35,280 --> 07:30:36,718 project easily 12937 07:30:36,718 --> 07:30:37,670 >> for what? 12938 07:30:37,670 --> 07:30:37,680 » for what? 12939 07:30:37,680 --> 07:30:38,948 >> For a town hall, 12940 07:30:38,948 --> 07:30:38,958 » For a town hall, 12941 07:30:38,958 --> 07:30:39,990 >> but but we're not 12942 07:30:39,990 --> 07:30:40,000 » but but we're not 12943 07:30:40,000 --> 07:30:42,388 >> But but let me let me finish. I know 12944 07:30:42,388 --> 07:30:42,398 » But but let me let me finish. I know 12945 07:30:42,398 --> 07:30:43,840 it's not what you want to hear. 12946 07:30:43,840 --> 07:30:45,190 >> No, I'm saying we're not even we're not 12947 07:30:45,190 --> 07:30:45,200 » No, I'm saying we're not even we're not 12948 07:30:45,200 --> 07:30:45,920 building it. 12949 07:30:45,920 --> 07:30:47,590 >> How does 12950 07:30:47,590 --> 07:30:47,600 » How does 12951 07:30:47,600 --> 07:30:49,200 building cost 25 million? 12952 07:30:49,200 --> 07:30:50,788 >> $100,000 12953 07:30:50,788 --> 07:30:50,798 » $100,000 12954 07:30:50,798 --> 07:30:52,080 to go look. 12955 07:30:52,080 --> 07:30:52,468 >> Okay. 12956 07:30:52,468 --> 07:30:52,478 » Okay. 12957 07:30:52,478 --> 07:30:54,788 >> So, I'm just saying you could put that 12958 07:30:54,788 --> 07:30:54,798 » So, I'm just saying you could put that 12959 07:30:54,798 --> 07:30:58,160 off another year. 12960 07:30:58,160 --> 07:31:00,150 >> Not saying erase it. just put it off 12961 07:31:00,150 --> 07:31:00,160 » Not saying erase it. just put it off 12962 07:31:00,160 --> 07:31:02,080 another year. Um, 12963 07:31:02,080 --> 07:31:03,430 >> but keep his library. 12964 07:31:03,430 --> 07:31:03,440 » but keep his library. 12965 07:31:03,440 --> 07:31:07,430 >> But likewise the um well, y'all have 12966 07:31:07,430 --> 07:31:07,440 » But likewise the um well, y'all have 12967 07:31:07,440 --> 07:31:10,080 erased the library. I understand that. 12968 07:31:10,080 --> 07:31:12,320 You've erased the community event 12969 07:31:12,320 --> 07:31:16,798 centers, but um some of this you there 12970 07:31:16,798 --> 07:31:18,878 there's there's three prongs. You got 12971 07:31:18,878 --> 07:31:20,638 what are all your tools to accomplish 12972 07:31:20,638 --> 07:31:23,280 it? How low are you going to take your 12973 07:31:23,280 --> 07:31:24,878 reserve? 12974 07:31:24,878 --> 07:31:27,760 And what is needed on top of this? what 12975 07:31:27,760 --> 07:31:29,840 what do I what I need this coming year 12976 07:31:29,840 --> 07:31:32,638 to grow but address the necessities. 12977 07:31:32,638 --> 07:31:33,750 >> So, could you finish what you were 12978 07:31:33,750 --> 07:31:33,760 » So, could you finish what you were 12979 07:31:33,760 --> 07:31:36,878 saying, Chris? 12980 07:31:36,878 --> 07:31:39,110 >> Well, I just 12981 07:31:39,110 --> 07:31:39,120 » Well, I just 12982 07:31:39,120 --> 07:31:41,920 I know at one point this year there was 12983 07:31:41,920 --> 07:31:45,040 a discussion about 800,000 from EDC to 12984 07:31:45,040 --> 07:31:47,600 fund new park equipment. 12985 07:31:47,600 --> 07:31:49,840 And now we have 500,000 from the park 12986 07:31:49,840 --> 07:31:51,600 board and they're asking for another 12987 07:31:51,600 --> 07:31:53,520 300. 12988 07:31:53,520 --> 07:31:55,280 But none of that is EDC money. It's all 12989 07:31:55,280 --> 07:31:58,240 general fund money. Wait, do we have it 12990 07:31:58,240 --> 07:31:58,558 double? 12991 07:31:58,558 --> 07:31:59,590 >> I'm just trying to What? 12992 07:31:59,590 --> 07:31:59,600 » I'm just trying to What? 12993 07:31:59,600 --> 07:32:01,190 >> Do we have to double budget? Is that 12994 07:32:01,190 --> 07:32:01,200 » Do we have to double budget? Is that 12995 07:32:01,200 --> 07:32:01,840 what you're saying? 12996 07:32:01,840 --> 07:32:04,708 >> No, I said EDC offered 300. 12997 07:32:04,708 --> 07:32:04,718 » No, I said EDC offered 300. 12998 07:32:04,718 --> 07:32:07,110 >> He said EDC has offered 800,000 for the 12999 07:32:07,110 --> 07:32:07,120 » He said EDC has offered 800,000 for the 13000 07:32:07,120 --> 07:32:08,718 new park and then the parks board is now 13001 07:32:08,718 --> 07:32:12,320 saying we want to we want it 500 u but 13002 07:32:12,320 --> 07:32:14,160 now we want an extra 300. And so he's 13003 07:32:14,160 --> 07:32:15,360 saying but that's coming out of the 13004 07:32:15,360 --> 07:32:16,798 general fund. And he's like we might as 13005 07:32:16,798 --> 07:32:18,718 well just let the EDC pay for it and 13006 07:32:18,718 --> 07:32:20,160 then not come out of our general fund. 13007 07:32:20,160 --> 07:32:21,590 >> We just can't make the assumption that 13008 07:32:21,590 --> 07:32:21,600 » We just can't make the assumption that 13009 07:32:21,600 --> 07:32:23,440 the EDC is going to fund. 13010 07:32:23,440 --> 07:32:25,110 >> I understand. I just I'm just still 13011 07:32:25,110 --> 07:32:25,120 » I understand. I just I'm just still 13012 07:32:25,120 --> 07:32:26,638 grieving a little bit that whole process 13013 07:32:26,638 --> 07:32:28,638 blew up because we would not even have 13014 07:32:28,638 --> 07:32:29,280 to be talking. 13015 07:32:29,280 --> 07:32:30,468 >> We only have ourselves to blame for 13016 07:32:30,468 --> 07:32:30,478 » We only have ourselves to blame for 13017 07:32:30,478 --> 07:32:32,478 that. I mean I that's just but that it 13018 07:32:32,478 --> 07:32:34,080 is what it is. Let's look forward and I 13019 07:32:34,080 --> 07:32:36,798 I just if you want to lower it I'm okay 13020 07:32:36,798 --> 07:32:38,638 lowering it a little bit. I think um 13021 07:32:38,638 --> 07:32:40,080 they just want a little bit of in case 13022 07:32:40,080 --> 07:32:42,320 the EDC decides that they that's not a 13023 07:32:42,320 --> 07:32:44,160 project they want to move forward with. 13024 07:32:44,160 --> 07:32:45,520 They're going to be funding it 13025 07:32:45,520 --> 07:32:46,558 themselves. They want to make sure they 13026 07:32:46,558 --> 07:32:47,920 have enough money if it goes over the 13027 07:32:47,920 --> 07:32:49,600 500,000. I think they really are trying 13028 07:32:49,600 --> 07:32:52,160 to keep it at that that price point from 13029 07:32:52,160 --> 07:32:54,478 what I heard listened on the meeting. 13030 07:32:54,478 --> 07:32:56,798 Um, but I don't if you want to change it 13031 07:32:56,798 --> 07:32:58,958 to 200 just so there's a little bit. 13032 07:32:58,958 --> 07:33:01,110 >> I missed the last park board meeting so 13033 07:33:01,110 --> 07:33:01,120 » I missed the last park board meeting so 13034 07:33:01,120 --> 07:33:01,520 I 13035 07:33:01,520 --> 07:33:02,868 >> I just watched it. I wasn't like 13036 07:33:02,868 --> 07:33:02,878 » I just watched it. I wasn't like 13037 07:33:02,878 --> 07:33:05,430 >> I don't want to speak to if they I know 13038 07:33:05,430 --> 07:33:05,440 » I don't want to speak to if they I know 13039 07:33:05,440 --> 07:33:06,958 they were looking at the 500. I know 13040 07:33:06,958 --> 07:33:08,478 there's no guarantee and then they got 13041 07:33:08,478 --> 07:33:11,600 to suggest. 13042 07:33:11,600 --> 07:33:14,798 Do we think the HCEDC and do we think if 13043 07:33:14,798 --> 07:33:19,840 we asked them to either way cover that 13044 07:33:19,840 --> 07:33:21,040 that would be an issue? 13045 07:33:21,040 --> 07:33:23,190 >> I I don't know. I just I just like 13046 07:33:23,190 --> 07:33:23,200 » I I don't know. I just I just like 13047 07:33:23,200 --> 07:33:25,120 having it in the general funding case if 13048 07:33:25,120 --> 07:33:27,760 that's what we want to use that money on 13049 07:33:27,760 --> 07:33:29,520 or that's what we want them using the 13050 07:33:29,520 --> 07:33:31,600 money on. It needs to have a needs to be 13051 07:33:31,600 --> 07:33:33,600 budgeted in case it's not picked up as a 13052 07:33:33,600 --> 07:33:36,958 project. You can't budget on a hope 13053 07:33:36,958 --> 07:33:39,750 >> and yeah, so we can take it down to 13054 07:33:39,750 --> 07:33:39,760 » and yeah, so we can take it down to 13055 07:33:39,760 --> 07:33:42,478 200,000 and and I am in favor of taking 13056 07:33:42,478 --> 07:33:44,638 off the House of Park pushing it out one 13057 07:33:44,638 --> 07:33:45,600 more year. 13058 07:33:45,600 --> 07:33:45,990 >> Okay. 13059 07:33:45,990 --> 07:33:46,000 » Okay. 13060 07:33:46,000 --> 07:33:47,670 >> But if that like I said, we need to talk 13061 07:33:47,670 --> 07:33:47,680 » But if that like I said, we need to talk 13062 07:33:47,680 --> 07:33:48,718 about those those two things. 13063 07:33:48,718 --> 07:33:49,190 >> Both of those. 13064 07:33:49,190 --> 07:33:49,200 » Both of those. 13065 07:33:49,200 --> 07:33:50,788 >> When is the park board meeting? 13066 07:33:50,788 --> 07:33:50,798 » When is the park board meeting? 13067 07:33:50,798 --> 07:33:52,230 >> It's Wednesday. 13068 07:33:52,230 --> 07:33:52,240 » It's Wednesday. 13069 07:33:52,240 --> 07:33:53,190 >> This coming Wednesday. 13070 07:33:53,190 --> 07:33:53,200 » This coming Wednesday. 13071 07:33:53,200 --> 07:33:54,468 >> Yes, ma'am. 13072 07:33:54,468 --> 07:33:54,478 » Yes, ma'am. 13073 07:33:54,478 --> 07:33:55,670 >> Oh, 13074 07:33:55,670 --> 07:33:55,680 » Oh, 13075 07:33:55,680 --> 07:33:55,990 >> yeah. 13076 07:33:55,990 --> 07:33:56,000 » yeah. 13077 07:33:56,000 --> 07:33:57,670 >> That's what you're thinking. We would 13078 07:33:57,670 --> 07:33:57,680 » That's what you're thinking. We would 13079 07:33:57,680 --> 07:33:58,558 know what they're going to do. 13080 07:33:58,558 --> 07:34:00,310 >> We would know before the 17th. 13081 07:34:00,310 --> 07:34:00,320 » We would know before the 17th. 13082 07:34:00,320 --> 07:34:00,788 >> We would. 13083 07:34:00,788 --> 07:34:00,798 » We would. 13084 07:34:00,798 --> 07:34:02,788 >> And could we get with HC? Could Joe get 13085 07:34:02,788 --> 07:34:02,798 » And could we get with HC? Could Joe get 13086 07:34:02,798 --> 07:34:06,478 with HCDC and see? I mean, I would 13087 07:34:06,478 --> 07:34:07,190 >> they meet on 13088 07:34:07,190 --> 07:34:07,200 » they meet on 13089 07:34:07,200 --> 07:34:08,868 >> You would have to meet with their full 13090 07:34:08,868 --> 07:34:08,878 » You would have to meet with their full 13091 07:34:08,878 --> 07:34:09,840 board. 13092 07:34:09,840 --> 07:34:11,110 >> Oh, is it all? 13093 07:34:11,110 --> 07:34:11,120 » Oh, is it all? 13094 07:34:11,120 --> 07:34:13,670 >> I keep thinking more further. 13095 07:34:13,670 --> 07:34:13,680 » I keep thinking more further. 13096 07:34:13,680 --> 07:34:15,190 >> But we would know if if they're if they 13097 07:34:15,190 --> 07:34:15,200 » But we would know if if they're if they 13098 07:34:15,200 --> 07:34:17,040 approve a $500,000 playground or 13099 07:34:17,040 --> 07:34:19,440 $800,000 playground to recommend. We 13100 07:34:19,440 --> 07:34:21,120 would know that after Wednesday. That's 13101 07:34:21,120 --> 07:34:22,000 a good point. 13102 07:34:22,000 --> 07:34:23,750 >> But all all the playgrounds that they 13103 07:34:23,750 --> 07:34:23,760 » But all all the playgrounds that they 13104 07:34:23,760 --> 07:34:26,240 brought forward a few weeks ago, the 13105 07:34:26,240 --> 07:34:28,320 parks board did, the three that they 13106 07:34:28,320 --> 07:34:29,920 narrowed it down to are all around 13107 07:34:29,920 --> 07:34:32,638 500,000. So they've not the parks 13108 07:34:32,638 --> 07:34:35,440 they're looking at are not 800. They're 13109 07:34:35,440 --> 07:34:38,878 all 500. They went from a big nice park 13110 07:34:38,878 --> 07:34:40,878 playground towers down to something 13111 07:34:40,878 --> 07:34:42,798 really small. So it's like they they 13112 07:34:42,798 --> 07:34:44,240 shrunk they shrunk it down a lot. 13113 07:34:44,240 --> 07:34:47,670 >> Let me make a suggestion please. Is take 13114 07:34:47,670 --> 07:34:47,680 » Let me make a suggestion please. Is take 13115 07:34:47,680 --> 07:34:52,150 the 300,000 out. 13116 07:34:52,160 --> 07:34:56,638 If park board wants some additional 13117 07:34:56,638 --> 07:35:00,718 money for a project then they can come 13118 07:35:00,718 --> 07:35:03,920 to the city c the council needs to ask 13119 07:35:03,920 --> 07:35:10,160 the EDC not a park board is park or EDC 13120 07:35:10,160 --> 07:35:12,398 will you take this as a project fund 13121 07:35:12,398 --> 07:35:14,878 this additional 300,000 for whatever 13122 07:35:14,878 --> 07:35:17,840 that project is and they all go yes or 13123 07:35:17,840 --> 07:35:18,320 no 13124 07:35:18,320 --> 07:35:20,388 >> well so I think a middle ground sorry 13125 07:35:20,388 --> 07:35:20,398 » well so I think a middle ground sorry 13126 07:35:20,398 --> 07:35:22,638 mayor may I speak 13127 07:35:22,638 --> 07:35:25,680 Okay, wonderful. The So, if they do pick 13128 07:35:25,680 --> 07:35:27,440 a half a million dollar park, I think 13129 07:35:27,440 --> 07:35:29,280 with contingency and stuff, maybe they'd 13130 07:35:29,280 --> 07:35:31,600 need about$100,000 because I have a 13131 07:35:31,600 --> 07:35:33,280 feeling it might be slightly over. But 13132 07:35:33,280 --> 07:35:35,200 if they go with, here's the thing, 13133 07:35:35,200 --> 07:35:36,878 they're bringing their recommendations 13134 07:35:36,878 --> 07:35:39,920 to us. HCEDC has already given us a 13135 07:35:39,920 --> 07:35:41,440 recommendation. So, say the parks board 13136 07:35:41,440 --> 07:35:42,878 goes for the half million dollar one and 13137 07:35:42,878 --> 07:35:44,718 HCEDC says, "Hey, we'll pay for this 13138 07:35:44,718 --> 07:35:46,718 $800,000 one." Council still gets to 13139 07:35:46,718 --> 07:35:48,478 decide. We can go with the big one and 13140 07:35:48,478 --> 07:35:50,638 HCDC funds it or we can go with the 13141 07:35:50,638 --> 07:35:52,638 smaller one that the parks board decides 13142 07:35:52,638 --> 07:35:54,080 and have a little bit of money put to 13143 07:35:54,080 --> 07:35:56,000 the side for them. We don't need the 13144 07:35:56,000 --> 07:35:57,750 >> That's true. Or we just use the $500,000 13145 07:35:57,750 --> 07:35:57,760 » That's true. Or we just use the $500,000 13146 07:35:57,760 --> 07:35:59,360 that the EDC's already said they were 13147 07:35:59,360 --> 07:36:00,240 going to spend. 13148 07:36:00,240 --> 07:36:02,388 >> Aren't we funding the 500,000 from the 13149 07:36:02,388 --> 07:36:02,398 » Aren't we funding the 500,000 from the 13150 07:36:02,398 --> 07:36:04,000 parks no matter what? Because the parks 13151 07:36:04,000 --> 07:36:05,760 didn't have $500,000 in their budget. 13152 07:36:05,760 --> 07:36:07,910 >> It's HC. I thought was 13153 07:36:07,910 --> 07:36:07,920 » It's HC. I thought was 13154 07:36:07,920 --> 07:36:08,388 >> do what? 13155 07:36:08,388 --> 07:36:08,398 » do what? 13156 07:36:08,398 --> 07:36:09,750 >> It's already here. 13157 07:36:09,750 --> 07:36:09,760 » It's already here. 13158 07:36:09,760 --> 07:36:11,190 >> Okay. Well, I'm saying we're funding it, 13159 07:36:11,190 --> 07:36:11,200 » Okay. Well, I'm saying we're funding it, 13160 07:36:11,200 --> 07:36:12,478 not the par. It's not coming out of the 13161 07:36:12,478 --> 07:36:14,320 It's not fun out of fund 15. It's coming 13162 07:36:14,320 --> 07:36:15,680 out of our So 13163 07:36:15,680 --> 07:36:17,190 >> we're fun. So, if the parks board says 13164 07:36:17,190 --> 07:36:17,200 » we're fun. So, if the parks board says 13165 07:36:17,200 --> 07:36:21,200 we want a $500 $500,000 park, the 13166 07:36:21,200 --> 07:36:22,798 general fund's funding that, not the 13167 07:36:22,798 --> 07:36:24,398 parks board. I just want to clarify 13168 07:36:24,398 --> 07:36:24,718 that. 13169 07:36:24,718 --> 07:36:27,110 >> Butc is reimbursing. Didn't they say 13170 07:36:27,110 --> 07:36:27,120 » Butc is reimbursing. Didn't they say 13171 07:36:27,120 --> 07:36:29,680 they're covering that park? 13172 07:36:29,680 --> 07:36:30,150 >> Well, 13173 07:36:30,150 --> 07:36:30,160 » Well, 13174 07:36:30,160 --> 07:36:33,110 >> no, the 5 the 500,000 is covered by them 13175 07:36:33,110 --> 07:36:33,120 » no, the 5 the 500,000 is covered by them 13176 07:36:33,120 --> 07:36:34,080 no matter what. 13177 07:36:34,080 --> 07:36:35,990 >> The 500,000 was already passed from a 13178 07:36:35,990 --> 07:36:36,000 » The 500,000 was already passed from a 13179 07:36:36,000 --> 07:36:37,840 resolution a couple months ago. The 13180 07:36:37,840 --> 07:36:40,000 additional 300 is what they're asking 13181 07:36:40,000 --> 07:36:40,240 for. 13182 07:36:40,240 --> 07:36:42,468 >> The 500,000 is paid by the HCDC no 13183 07:36:42,468 --> 07:36:42,478 » The 500,000 is paid by the HCDC no 13184 07:36:42,478 --> 07:36:45,120 matter what. That was approved. It's the 13185 07:36:45,120 --> 07:36:46,160 additional. 13186 07:36:46,160 --> 07:36:48,150 >> What if we dropped it to 150? What if we 13187 07:36:48,150 --> 07:36:48,160 » What if we dropped it to 150? What if we 13188 07:36:48,160 --> 07:36:49,120 just cut it in half? 13189 07:36:49,120 --> 07:36:50,468 >> It's not if they want to pay for the 13190 07:36:50,468 --> 07:36:50,478 » It's not if they want to pay for the 13191 07:36:50,478 --> 07:36:52,718 park. HCEDC already agreed to pay that 13192 07:36:52,718 --> 07:36:55,120 half a million. That is a done deal. The 13193 07:36:55,120 --> 07:36:57,440 question is the rest. 13194 07:36:57,440 --> 07:36:59,520 HCEDC, even if we go with the park's 13195 07:36:59,520 --> 07:37:00,878 recommendation for the half a million 13196 07:37:00,878 --> 07:37:02,638 dollars, HCEDC will have to pay that 13197 07:37:02,638 --> 07:37:03,600 half million. 13198 07:37:03,600 --> 07:37:06,628 >> Or what about this? We have they already 13199 07:37:06,628 --> 07:37:06,638 » Or what about this? We have they already 13200 07:37:06,638 --> 07:37:08,958 had the 500,000. We have a contingency 13201 07:37:08,958 --> 07:37:12,558 fund. We also have EDC as an option. I 13202 07:37:12,558 --> 07:37:15,600 think we could take off the 300,000 13203 07:37:15,600 --> 07:37:17,760 and just like you said have them bring 13204 07:37:17,760 --> 07:37:21,600 the but the the proposal and see what 13205 07:37:21,600 --> 07:37:23,520 the proposal comes out to and then we 13206 07:37:23,520 --> 07:37:25,600 can make a decision like if we need to 13207 07:37:25,600 --> 07:37:27,520 ask EDC to cover a little bit or if we 13208 07:37:27,520 --> 07:37:29,200 need to maybe pull a little bit about 13209 07:37:29,200 --> 07:37:31,040 out of contingency or something part was 13210 07:37:31,040 --> 07:37:33,120 for that exercise pad if they don't get 13211 07:37:33,120 --> 07:37:34,478 the grant they wanted to have the monies 13212 07:37:34,478 --> 07:37:35,840 available for that as well. 13213 07:37:35,840 --> 07:37:37,510 >> Yeah. You know, I don't know. I don't 13214 07:37:37,510 --> 07:37:37,520 » Yeah. You know, I don't know. I don't 13215 07:37:37,520 --> 07:37:38,240 know the cost of that. 13216 07:37:38,240 --> 07:37:40,310 >> But maybe they do that next year because 13217 07:37:40,310 --> 07:37:40,320 » But maybe they do that next year because 13218 07:37:40,320 --> 07:37:41,680 that that they don't have to do it at 13219 07:37:41,680 --> 07:37:42,958 the same time. Right. 13220 07:37:42,958 --> 07:37:45,030 >> Right. So, they asked for like one thing 13221 07:37:45,030 --> 07:37:45,040 » Right. So, they asked for like one thing 13222 07:37:45,040 --> 07:37:45,520 and 13223 07:37:45,520 --> 07:37:47,190 >> and we save for the one thing. 13224 07:37:47,190 --> 07:37:47,200 » and we save for the one thing. 13225 07:37:47,200 --> 07:37:48,948 >> Well, we we're still giving them 500,000 13226 07:37:48,948 --> 07:37:48,958 » Well, we we're still giving them 500,000 13227 07:37:48,958 --> 07:37:49,760 though. 13228 07:37:49,760 --> 07:37:53,030 >> That was last year. 13229 07:37:53,030 --> 07:37:53,040 » That was last year. 13230 07:37:53,040 --> 07:37:54,548 >> They didn't give us at all an estimate 13231 07:37:54,548 --> 07:37:54,558 » They didn't give us at all an estimate 13232 07:37:54,558 --> 07:37:55,280 on the cost. 13233 07:37:55,280 --> 07:37:59,110 >> What is the 300,000 ask? What is it for? 13234 07:37:59,110 --> 07:37:59,120 » What is the 300,000 ask? What is it for? 13235 07:37:59,120 --> 07:38:01,600 The parks board meeting was for in case 13236 07:38:01,600 --> 07:38:05,280 the the parks playground bids came in a 13237 07:38:05,280 --> 07:38:06,878 little bit over their bud over budget of 13238 07:38:06,878 --> 07:38:11,200 500 and for a exercise 13239 07:38:11,200 --> 07:38:12,240 pad. 13240 07:38:12,240 --> 07:38:14,708 >> Oh, I I introduced them to that. 13241 07:38:14,708 --> 07:38:14,718 » Oh, I I introduced them to that. 13242 07:38:14,718 --> 07:38:16,468 >> Well, good. It was uh 13243 07:38:16,468 --> 07:38:16,478 » Well, good. It was uh 13244 07:38:16,478 --> 07:38:17,830 >> and there's a grant that I think Miss 13245 07:38:17,830 --> 07:38:17,840 » and there's a grant that I think Miss 13246 07:38:17,840 --> 07:38:20,240 Nimbu said she was applying for um but 13247 07:38:20,240 --> 07:38:22,240 she just wasn't sure. So, how much So, 13248 07:38:22,240 --> 07:38:24,000 what is the cost on that? What is the 13249 07:38:24,000 --> 07:38:24,958 cost? 13250 07:38:24,958 --> 07:38:25,270 >> What? 13251 07:38:25,270 --> 07:38:25,280 » What? 13252 07:38:25,280 --> 07:38:26,548 >> You said you introduced it so he'll know 13253 07:38:26,548 --> 07:38:26,558 » You said you introduced it so he'll know 13254 07:38:26,558 --> 07:38:28,558 the cost. Well, I I just introduced the 13255 07:38:28,558 --> 07:38:30,240 I don't know the cost. They didn't get 13256 07:38:30,240 --> 07:38:33,760 into it, but it's a lowlevel 13257 07:38:33,760 --> 07:38:37,040 grant persist. They call it a grant. Uh 13258 07:38:37,040 --> 07:38:41,680 it's a private concern through uh 13259 07:38:41,680 --> 07:38:44,558 um Baylor Scott and White and or Blue 13260 07:38:44,558 --> 07:38:47,120 Shield. I think Blue Shield, they offer 13261 07:38:47,120 --> 07:38:49,440 that as well. 13262 07:38:49,440 --> 07:38:56,150 um for a 13263 07:38:56,160 --> 07:38:59,440 say uh $250,000 13264 07:38:59,440 --> 07:39:00,478 exercise. 13265 07:39:00,478 --> 07:39:01,990 >> $250,000. Okay, that's 13266 07:39:01,990 --> 07:39:02,000 » $250,000. Okay, that's 13267 07:39:02,000 --> 07:39:04,070 >> I I'm No, I don't know that. I'm just 13268 07:39:04,070 --> 07:39:04,080 » I I'm No, I don't know that. I'm just 13269 07:39:04,080 --> 07:39:06,638 saying for example, no, I do not know 13270 07:39:06,638 --> 07:39:08,398 how much they cost 13271 07:39:08,398 --> 07:39:10,868 >> that they they would only this grant is 13272 07:39:10,868 --> 07:39:10,878 » that they they would only this grant is 13273 07:39:10,878 --> 07:39:13,520 only good for about 25,000. Okay, 13274 07:39:13,520 --> 07:39:15,590 >> it's a very low ratio. And a quick 13275 07:39:15,590 --> 07:39:15,600 » it's a very low ratio. And a quick 13276 07:39:15,600 --> 07:39:18,638 search shows that like um a park Olympic 13277 07:39:18,638 --> 07:39:21,360 spirit fitness course about 27,000. This 13278 07:39:21,360 --> 07:39:22,638 is not including install. So the 13279 07:39:22,638 --> 07:39:24,478 equipment's about 25,000. I think if we 13280 07:39:24,478 --> 07:39:27,280 put a h 100,000 and just wait to see. I 13281 07:39:27,280 --> 07:39:28,080 mean I think 13282 07:39:28,080 --> 07:39:28,948 >> I'm good with that. 13283 07:39:28,948 --> 07:39:28,958 » I'm good with that. 13284 07:39:28,958 --> 07:39:29,510 >> 100,000. 13285 07:39:29,510 --> 07:39:29,520 » 100,000. 13286 07:39:29,520 --> 07:39:31,350 >> Dropping that to 100,000. Everybody okay 13287 07:39:31,350 --> 07:39:31,360 » Dropping that to 100,000. Everybody okay 13288 07:39:31,360 --> 07:39:31,760 with that? 13289 07:39:31,760 --> 07:39:31,990 >> Sure. 13290 07:39:31,990 --> 07:39:32,000 » Sure. 13291 07:39:32,000 --> 07:39:34,868 >> And then what about the house lit park? 13292 07:39:34,868 --> 07:39:34,878 » And then what about the house lit park? 13293 07:39:34,878 --> 07:39:35,510 >> 180,000. 13294 07:39:35,510 --> 07:39:35,520 » 180,000. 13295 07:39:35,520 --> 07:39:36,230 >> That's your call. It's your 13296 07:39:36,230 --> 07:39:36,240 » That's your call. It's your 13297 07:39:36,240 --> 07:39:36,638 neighborhood. 13298 07:39:36,638 --> 07:39:37,670 >> Yeah. I feel like that's 13299 07:39:37,670 --> 07:39:37,680 » Yeah. I feel like that's 13300 07:39:37,680 --> 07:39:39,350 >> I I feel like it can be pushed out one 13301 07:39:39,350 --> 07:39:39,360 » I I feel like it can be pushed out one 13302 07:39:39,360 --> 07:39:39,920 year. 13303 07:39:39,920 --> 07:39:40,230 >> Okay. 13304 07:39:40,230 --> 07:39:40,240 » Okay. 13305 07:39:40,240 --> 07:39:43,270 >> Zach. 13306 07:39:43,280 --> 07:39:44,558 » No. What do we what 13307 07:39:44,558 --> 07:39:47,190 >> that that's the 180 for engineering and 13308 07:39:47,190 --> 07:39:47,200 » that that's the 180 for engineering and 13309 07:39:47,200 --> 07:39:48,240 design. Correct. 13310 07:39:48,240 --> 07:39:48,948 >> Correct. 13311 07:39:48,948 --> 07:39:48,958 » Correct. 13312 07:39:48,958 --> 07:39:49,510 >> Now you 13313 07:39:49,510 --> 07:39:49,520 » Now you 13314 07:39:49,520 --> 07:39:52,948 >> So you but you did up your repair. 13315 07:39:52,948 --> 07:39:52,958 » So you but you did up your repair. 13316 07:39:52,958 --> 07:39:54,788 >> Yes. They already they already increased 13317 07:39:54,788 --> 07:39:54,798 » Yes. They already they already increased 13318 07:39:54,798 --> 07:39:55,360 otherwise 13319 07:39:55,360 --> 07:39:56,310 >> taken care of. 13320 07:39:56,310 --> 07:39:56,320 » taken care of. 13321 07:39:56,320 --> 07:39:58,788 >> So is the 180 is that for the repairs or 13322 07:39:58,788 --> 07:39:58,798 » So is the 180 is that for the repairs or 13323 07:39:58,798 --> 07:40:00,160 what's the 180 for? 13324 07:40:00,160 --> 07:40:02,388 >> 180 was engineering design for the 13325 07:40:02,388 --> 07:40:02,398 » 180 was engineering design for the 13326 07:40:02,398 --> 07:40:03,750 >> I think we can push that because we're 13327 07:40:03,750 --> 07:40:03,760 » I think we can push that because we're 13328 07:40:03,760 --> 07:40:05,760 pushing that back. We're pushing the 13329 07:40:05,760 --> 07:40:08,798 we're pushing that. 13330 07:40:08,798 --> 07:40:09,990 >> Look at us [laughter] agreeing. Go 13331 07:40:09,990 --> 07:40:10,000 » Look at us [laughter] agreeing. Go 13332 07:40:10,000 --> 07:40:11,520 ahead, Zach. I'm excited that we're 13333 07:40:11,520 --> 07:40:13,920 agreeing. Go ahead. Well, Doug would be 13334 07:40:13,920 --> 07:40:16,160 giving us the the the bad look over 13335 07:40:16,160 --> 07:40:18,718 there. But I mean, I think if we want to 13336 07:40:18,718 --> 07:40:20,160 push if we're pushing the other stuff 13337 07:40:20,160 --> 07:40:22,160 like talked back earlier, then we can 13338 07:40:22,160 --> 07:40:24,320 start doing engineering next year or 13339 07:40:24,320 --> 07:40:26,478 something like that. But, um, I was 13340 07:40:26,478 --> 07:40:29,680 thinking this 180 was about the the 13341 07:40:29,680 --> 07:40:31,280 band-aids that we want to keep doing to 13342 07:40:31,280 --> 07:40:33,200 our to our street. That's fun. 13343 07:40:33,200 --> 07:40:34,230 >> Okay. I don't want to cut the band-aids 13344 07:40:34,230 --> 07:40:34,240 » Okay. I don't want to cut the band-aids 13345 07:40:34,240 --> 07:40:36,000 off. 13346 07:40:36,000 --> 07:40:38,310 >> And um, the cost is between$100 and 13347 07:40:38,310 --> 07:40:38,320 » And um, the cost is between$100 and 13348 07:40:38,320 --> 07:40:41,440 $200,000. I just um inquired from the 13349 07:40:41,440 --> 07:40:43,120 parks board chair. So that's how much 13350 07:40:43,120 --> 07:40:44,798 those exercise path 13351 07:40:44,798 --> 07:40:46,230 >> 100 to 200,000. 13352 07:40:46,230 --> 07:40:46,240 » 100 to 200,000. 13353 07:40:46,240 --> 07:40:47,750 >> So does that mean that Mike Anderson's 13354 07:40:47,750 --> 07:40:47,760 » So does that mean that Mike Anderson's 13355 07:40:47,760 --> 07:40:48,798 not going to work on our neighborhood 13356 07:40:48,798 --> 07:40:51,200 anymore? like they're done doing 13357 07:40:51,200 --> 07:40:54,320 surveying and all this stuff.