[0:13] I'm going to call this meeting to order
[0:14] of the uh city council of the city of
[0:17] Haywarden. We are in the city hall, the
[0:20] council chambers room. It is Wednesday,
[0:22] December 10th, 2025 at 5:30 p.m.
[0:28] We have our standard agenda items.
[0:31] Um,
[0:33] first item is to approve the November
[0:35] 12, 2025 regular meeting minutes was in
[0:39] your packet. Could I have a motion,
[0:41] please?
[0:41] >> So, move
[0:42] >> and a second.
[0:44] >> Second.
[0:49] » Fight over it. Mhm.
[0:51] >> Go by alphabetical order. Uh we've got a
[0:55] motion in a second. All those in favor
[0:56] of approving the minutes from last
[0:58] meeting, please say I.
[1:00] >> I.
[1:00] >> Opposed?
[1:02] >> Passes four to zero.
[1:08] 1B is approval of uh December 10th, 2025
[1:11] claims for payment. Could I have a
[1:13] motion, please?
[1:15] >> A motion to approve
[1:16] >> and a second.
[1:18] >> Second.
[1:19] Uh any questions on the claims?
[1:24] If not, all those in favor, please say
[1:26] I.
[1:27] >> I.
[1:27] >> Opposed?
[1:29] Passes four to zero. At this time, we
[1:31] have open business from the community.
[1:33] Do we have anyone who would like to
[1:34] speak to the council tonight?
[1:39] Seeing none, we'll go on to the mayor's
[1:42] report. I do not have a report tonight,
[1:44] so we'll jump to the staff reports.
[1:46] Jacob?
[1:47] >> Yes. Um, we have an extended uh agenda
[1:51] this time, so I'll keep my things brief,
[1:53] but I just wanted to thank John again
[1:55] for coming back and doing another six
[1:57] months with us and uh closing out this
[1:59] term. I want to thank uh Patty for her
[2:02] continued service to the city of
[2:04] Haywarden and uh the community. Uh she
[2:06] has done many many things for the
[2:08] community and this is just one of the
[2:10] last things that she's done as being a
[2:12] council member from January of 2022.
[2:14] just wanted to thank her for all that
[2:16] time and everything that she's done. I
[2:18] wanted to welcome the incoming uh board
[2:20] members uh Ben and Trevor. Uh I am
[2:22] excited to work with you guys as well.
[2:25] Also wanted to welcome Misty to the
[2:27] city. You guys got to see her a little
[2:29] bit earlier today. Uh Misty is coming to
[2:32] us from Sous City. Uh she graduated with
[2:34] a bachelor of science in public
[2:36] accounting and uh we have been working
[2:38] together a little over a week now and I
[2:40] am excited to have her on board. It's
[2:42] going to be a great addition to the
[2:43] team. And I also wanted to thank our
[2:46] staff that have been putting in very
[2:48] long days and lots of hours to make sure
[2:51] that our roads are clear with these uh
[2:53] many snow days that we've been having.
[2:56] So, and that is all.
[2:59] >> Okay. Thank you, Travis.
[3:02] >> Uh just going to update everybody on the
[3:04] park shelter. Uh it's substantially
[3:06] completed. Uh we're just working on the
[3:08] flooring and then they'll get the
[3:09] cabinets in and then we should be ready
[3:12] to go. um hopefully open that up uh
[3:15] sometime in January for rentals. Um just
[3:19] want to get the final touches and
[3:20] everything, get it to be a go. Um I did
[3:23] pass out the design. We have an
[3:26] opportunity uh on the flooring, the
[3:28] concrete. We're going to stain it. Uh
[3:30] then they put down a polyurethane and
[3:32] then they'll put this stencil out and
[3:34] then another layer gets put over top of
[3:36] that. So I think this will be a a nice
[3:38] addition. And then also the name um was
[3:42] uh Veterans Memorial Park or Veterans
[3:45] Memorial Shelter um is what the um
[3:50] winner the winning name was. Um so
[3:53] that's all
[3:55] we're going with that. And then
[3:57] substation transformers, the old
[3:59] substation. Um I've put it out there for
[4:02] quotes to get that scrapped out and then
[4:05] sent off. So, um hopefully um in the
[4:09] next few months we'll get those taken
[4:10] out and so we can get that area cleaned
[4:12] up.
[4:16] » Okay. Thanks, Travis.
[4:19] Chief Depri,
[4:20] >> nothing. Thank you, Carol.
[4:24] >> I'm excited to announce that the USDA
[4:26] has opened up another opportunity for
[4:28] some people who had quite a bit of
[4:30] damage to the flood. Um they're offering
[4:33] $44,000 of a grant. Um it is an income
[4:36] eligible opportunity, but if you
[4:39] qualify, it's an easily funded one. Um
[4:42] so that'll be available for individuals,
[4:44] homeowners if they'd like to come in.
[4:46] I'm just working on a couple other grant
[4:48] opportunities. Um just getting through
[4:50] the end of the year. Um other than that,
[4:53] that's about it.
[4:54] >> Okay, great. Thank you, Carol. Jenny,
[4:57] anything tonight?
[4:58] >> No, nothing. Thank you.
[5:00] >> All right, we'll open it up to council
[5:02] comments at this time. Does anyone
[5:05] have a comment.
[5:07] >> Yes. I just want to say thank you to
[5:08] John for coming on board with us and
[5:11] helping us out here the last couple
[5:12] months and also to Patty Anderson for
[5:15] all of her work that she put forth um in
[5:18] serving as a council member as well.
[5:21] >> Very good. I'm sure we all share that
[5:23] sentiment. Thank you to both of them.
[5:26] >> Yeah. I just say it's been a pleasure to
[5:28] be up here again for the last few months
[5:30] and thanks to everyone for their trust
[5:32] and letting me sit here. So hopefully
[5:34] it's not the last time, but I have faith
[5:36] in those coming in. So we'll see where
[5:38] this goes.
[5:39] >> Good.
[5:39] >> Put that name tag back in the drawer.
[5:41] >> Yeah, I'll save that for later.
[5:42] >> Save it. Yes. Kept it for this long.
[5:47] >> Anyone else?
[5:48] >> I want to thank John, thank Patty. Uh
[5:52] you guys' experience has been uh
[5:55] paramount for all of this. Uh, also that
[5:58] there is
[6:00] this Saturday wreaths across America's
[6:01] coming and there's about 400 wreaths
[6:04] that need to be laid on veterans ce
[6:06] veterans gravestones at the cemetery.
[6:08] Um, so if anybody's willing to help at
[6:12] 11:30 go to the little shel the little
[6:14] shop shelter at the cemetery and uh uh
[6:17] Terry and Mike Coulson are kind of
[6:19] heading that up and Sud Young guys at
[6:21] the Eagles. So, if anybody wants to help
[6:23] do that, uh 11:30 on Saturday. So,
[6:28] >> okay. At How many wreaths you have
[6:31] coming in?
[6:32] >> 400, I think, is what they said.
[6:33] >> Wow.
[6:34] >> Yeah. There's there's their plan is to
[6:36] have one for every there's 669
[6:39] veterans buried in our cemetery. And
[6:41] their goal for next year is to have one
[6:42] for every single veteran.
[6:44] >> So,
[6:45] >> do you remember how many you had last
[6:46] year?
[6:46] >> None. Well, I think they had a hand they
[6:49] had a handful, but not nearly as many as
[6:51] they do this year. So,
[6:52] >> that's that's amazing.
[6:54] >> Thank you for for your work on that and the others also.
[7:00] Okay, then at this time we have uh some
[7:05] oath of offices to give. We're going to
[7:08] start out with Rob. We're going to just
[7:10] go in front here and have you read your
[7:12] oath.
[7:15] Raise
[7:28] your right hand and read your oath,
[7:30] please.
[7:30] >> I Rob Fluffy do so I will support the
[7:33] United States and Constitution of the
[7:35] State of Iowa and I will faithfully and
[7:38] to the best of my ability all the duties
[7:40] of the city council for the city of
[7:54] and then uh
[7:59] » you sure did check
[8:01] >> and then you can keep
[8:06] me square that I will support the
[8:07] Constitution of the United States and
[8:09] the Constitution of the State of Iowa
[8:10] and that I will faithfully and
[8:12] impartially to the best of my ability
[8:14] Discharge all the duties of city council
[8:16] for the city of Horton as now and
[8:18] hereafter required by law.
[8:21] Congratulations
[8:26] here and here with this penitution
[8:35] of the United States
[8:39] and to the best of my ability all the
[8:42] duties of the city council the city of
[8:45] now and here required by law.
[8:51] Sign this one and this one.
[8:57] » Congratulations.
[9:00] » You take this one and that pen.
[9:03] >> Thank you.
[9:05] I will support the constitution of
[9:06] United States
[9:15] for
[9:24] this one and the one in your hand.
[9:34] I also swear that I will support the
[9:36] Constitution of the United States of the
[9:39] State of Iowa
[9:41] and partially to the best of my ability
[9:43] to discharge all the duties of possible
[9:45] trustee regional health as required by
[9:49] law.
[9:53] » I want to sign this one and this one
[9:55] both of them.
[10:00] Jacob with the exception of probably
[10:07] » I can email you
[10:09] >> open meetings. I've got certificates for
[10:11] almost everybody.
[10:15] » All right. Uh this one's yours with that
[10:17] pen.
[10:28] Okay. Like to thank all of those who are
[10:30] willing to serve uh the city. LET'S
[10:40] we'll move on. We've got a public
[10:42] hearing to dispose of real property.
[10:47] Um can you give us some information on
[10:49] that, Jacob?
[10:51] >> Yes. So this is uh the one that is being
[10:54] sold to SD construction. This is going
[10:56] to be our public hearing. Um I
[11:00] have not myself heard anything. Have you
[11:02] heard anything? Any public comments?
[11:04] >> No, nothing at this time.
[11:07] >> Okay. We will open up the public hearing
[11:09] at this time. If there are any comments
[11:11] from anyone in attendance, can hear them
[11:14] now.
[11:18] Not seeing any. We will move on. Um,
[11:23] could use a need a motion to approve
[11:26] that resolution 202523.
[11:30] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution
[11:32] 2523.
[11:33] >> And a second.
[11:34] >> I'll second.
[11:36] >> Further discussion.
[11:39] We'll do roll call. Allan
[11:41] >> I.
[11:42] >> Warner.
[11:43] >> I.
[11:44] >> Felacer.
[11:45] >> I.
[11:46] >> And Klucky.
[11:48] >> I. That passes four to zero. Thank you.
[11:53] Moving on to four.
[11:56] We've got a resolution 2025 24 setting
[12:00] public hearing on proposal to dispose of
[12:04] real property. We will open the um the
[12:08] public hearing at this time.
[12:09] >> No, no, no. This is just setting the
[12:10] public hearing.
[12:11] >> Setting the public. Gotcha.
[12:13] >> Thank you. Yep.
[12:14] >> Uh so um anything you want to add to
[12:17] that? Yes.
[12:19] >> All right. So, the Haywardarden Chamber
[12:21] and Economic Development is looking to
[12:23] purchase this property. Um, they've had
[12:25] a lot of interest from people that have
[12:27] been trying to look for a place to put
[12:28] something. They show them this property,
[12:30] but then there's a lot of unknown stuff
[12:33] kind of going on. They have to build up
[12:35] and they don't want to um they want to
[12:37] just kind of know what the price is. So,
[12:38] a lot of people have been backing off
[12:40] after they show them that and they show
[12:41] that this going on. So, the chamber got
[12:43] together and came up with this idea to
[12:46] just get this
[12:48] uh uh spend what it needs to get it up
[12:51] uh to where it's supposed to be. Uh so
[12:54] that somebody can build on it and then
[12:56] somebody will have just that that's the
[12:58] price that they will pay and make it
[13:00] more enticing for them to uh come in and
[13:03] get it. Uh and they are not looking to
[13:07] uh make any profit off of it. They're
[13:09] going to do it the same as if we were to
[13:10] sell it. They're just doing the work to
[13:12] build it up and spending that money to
[13:14] make it more enticing for somebody to
[13:16] move in there. Any
[13:21] questions? Yeah. Okay. Got a motion.
[13:23] >> Second
[13:24] >> and a second. We'll do a roll call here
[13:27] again. Uh Warner
[13:28] >> I.
[13:30] >> Philer.
[13:31] >> I.
[13:32] >> Clucky.
[13:33] >> I.
[13:33] >> Allen.
[13:34] >> I.
[13:35] >> Motion passes four to zero.
[13:39] Number five. Resolution 202525
[13:43] setting a public hearing to consider
[13:45] proposed changes to the Haywarden code
[13:47] of ordinance by amending cable
[13:49] television utility rates and fees. It is
[13:53] my um goal to have more public hearings
[13:56] for these ordinances that uh change
[13:58] monetary um stuff for citizens. So uh
[14:02] this will just be the setting a public
[14:04] hearing for our final reading for the
[14:05] ordinance for cable rates. Um, I want to
[14:07] make sure that I read clearly tonight,
[14:11] especially uh the rates and what they
[14:13] were and what they're going to and why
[14:16] so that uh anybody watching uh later on
[14:20] or listening in later on can have
[14:23] something to kind of reference and know
[14:25] what's going on. So, uh but just uh
[14:28] setting the public hearing so that they
[14:30] have their chance to come give us their
[14:31] input before we set the rates.
[14:36] Okay. Any questions on that?
[14:41] » So move.
[14:44] >> Second.
[14:45] >> Okay. We've got a motion in a second.
[14:48] Any further discussion?
[14:51] If not, we'll do roll call. Felteer.
[14:53] >> I.
[14:55] >> Cluckucky.
[14:55] >> I.
[14:57] >> Allen.
[14:57] >> I.
[14:58] >> Warner.
[14:59] >> I.
[15:00] >> Motion passes four to zero. Setting the
[15:03] public hearing.
[15:04] Uh number six is uh the second reading
[15:07] of ordinance 761 which is an ordinance
[15:10] amending cable rates and fees of the
[15:13] city of Haywarden by amending sections
[15:16] 113.09,
[15:17] 113.10
[15:19] and 113.13.
[15:23] Um
[15:24] >> yes. Yeah. So this is actually changing
[15:27] the rates. Um last meeting I I spoke
[15:30] about it uh but I know I kind of
[15:31] stumbled over a couple things. So, I
[15:33] want to see if I can do it a little bit
[15:34] more clear for people. Um, currently
[15:37] right now, we have two primary packages
[15:40] for cable. We have a basic and we have
[15:42] an expanded. Uh, the basic right now
[15:44] without taxes is 37.93 a month and
[15:47] expanded is 9227 a month. Now, our
[15:51] actual cost to the city to transmit
[15:54] those packages to the customer is
[15:56] actually $42 a month and $112 a month to
[16:01] transmit that to them. So, we have been
[16:03] losing money every single month, every
[16:05] single customer for everybody that has
[16:08] uh cable and uh we can't sustain that if
[16:11] we're going to continue to have
[16:13] high-tech be a competitive and good um
[16:16] utility. So, we are just going to try
[16:18] and raise it to a rate that just kind of
[16:21] breaks us even so that it's not um
[16:23] eating away at some profits. So, uh what
[16:26] we have in this ordinance is to raise it
[16:28] up to $43 for the basic a month and $113
[16:33] for the expanded. Um, and then I also
[16:37] just kind of wanted to highlight that in
[16:39] this ordinance it also removes the
[16:41] digital packages because we are not
[16:44] being able to do digital going forward
[16:46] as uh beginning in early January. But I
[16:49] am told that only affects about 15
[16:52] customers. So, and they have been sent
[16:55] letters to inform them of the services
[16:59] that are going to be changing. Um,
[17:02] I think I've covered that pretty well.
[17:05] So that is uh what this ordinance is
[17:07] doing.
[17:10] » Okay. We're amending cable rates. Uh any
[17:14] further discussion?
[17:17] >> If not, I would take a motion.
[17:19] >> A motion to approve the second reading
[17:20] of ordinance 761.
[17:23] >> Okay, Christie. And a second.
[17:24] >> I'll second that motion.
[17:27] >> Rob. And any further discussion?
[17:32] If not, we'll do roll call. Cluckucky.
[17:34] >> I
[17:35] >> Allan,
[17:36] >> hi.
[17:37] >> Warner,
[17:38] >> I.
[17:39] >> Peler,
[17:40] >> hi.
[17:41] >> Passes four to zero. Thank you. We're at
[17:45] number seven, approval of the leasing
[17:46] contract.
[17:48] >> Okay. So, Quadant uh has our mailer
[17:50] machine. And our mailer machine, what
[17:52] the city uses it for is it seals and
[17:55] stamps all of our envelopes that we send
[17:57] out. Uh which includes all of our
[17:59] utility billing um letters that go out
[18:02] every single month. So on average, I
[18:04] mean we have over 1,200 items that go
[18:06] through this machine a month. Um
[18:10] it looks like the monthly increase right
[18:13] now if we sign uh this which is actually
[18:16] a the lease comes up in April but they
[18:21] have a program that we can sign a new
[18:24] contract with this year's rate increase
[18:27] if we sign it now ahead of time. Um but
[18:31] they anticipate that the rate's going to
[18:32] go up. So if we wait till April, it'll
[18:34] be a little bit higher. And this is just
[18:36] a way that they can try and give back to
[18:38] the people that have their current
[18:40] contracts is to sign one slightly early
[18:43] at the year before's rates. So um we
[18:47] don't have to sign it now. That's going
[18:48] to be up to you guys, but then come
[18:50] April, we would have probably a slightly
[18:53] higher contract that we would be
[18:54] approving for it. So,
[19:00] » I'll make a motion that we sign it now.
[19:02] >> I'll second.
[19:04] >> Okay, we got a motion and a second. Any
[19:06] further discussion?
[19:08] All those in favor, please say I.
[19:10] >> I.
[19:10] >> Opposed?
[19:12] >> Passes four to zero. Thank you. Moving
[19:15] on to item eight is discussion on mobile
[19:18] vendors.
[19:21] Okay. So last meeting uh we had talked
[19:24] about doing the schedule of fees uh
[19:26] which we tabled which we'll have to
[19:28] figure out the proper process to on
[19:30] table. I think one of you guys will
[19:31] motion it to bring it off the table
[19:33] before we can actually vote on it next
[19:35] item. Um but we wanted to uh take some
[19:40] time to uh talk about the mobile vendors
[19:44] and maybe the definition behind it and
[19:47] what all is included in a mobile vendor.
[19:49] Uh specifically, there are a couple
[19:51] different things that uh were brought to
[19:53] our attention that we wanted to look at
[19:55] that were, you know, not included in a a
[19:57] mobile food truck. Um so they have the
[20:00] uh the coffee that has uh delivered to
[20:03] the hospital that they serve out of
[20:05] there. I think it's once a month. Um
[20:07] another one is the flower shop that is
[20:09] uh set up like across the street from
[20:11] Casey's in the springtime. Used to be uh
[20:14] on Sunshine. Um and then some other just
[20:19] uh vendors that sell things. Uh they uh
[20:22] we just wanted to bring it up for
[20:25] discussion what you guys think, what
[20:26] should be included, what shouldn't be
[20:28] included, why. And uh the city is
[20:32] wanting to hear from you guys on what
[20:34] direction you want to go for that so
[20:37] that we can
[20:39] put your vision on paper
[20:42] because the way that it's written right
[20:43] now it would stay the same with that
[20:47] being just mobile food trucks. So
[20:52] as I mentioned last time and I'll speak
[20:54] about it again that I uh would prefer
[20:57] the language to include
[21:00] So it so it's not so just specific to
[21:03] food trucks. So I want it to encompass
[21:07] any um entity that comes to our city
[21:10] that it's not brick and mortar. They
[21:12] come in, they sell their items, and then
[21:16] they're out. So anything like that that
[21:18] we can think of. And Jenny, if you have
[21:20] any guidance on this as far as wordage,
[21:23] verbiage, however you want to say it, um
[21:25] I'll gladly listen to what you have to
[21:28] say. I think in crafting this ordinance,
[21:31] it's going to be important to define or
[21:34] identify a purpose of the ordinance. So,
[21:37] typically they're they're crafted
[21:39] towards food vendors for the purpose of
[21:42] ensuring safety, sanitary conditions,
[21:45] regulations. So, if we're going to
[21:48] expand it, I think we have to be um
[21:51] intentional about why we're expanding it
[21:54] and what public purpose we are
[21:57] essentially protecting. So, uh I think
[22:01] that would be my take on it is if it's
[22:03] expanded, we need to identify and define
[22:07] why and what public purpose it is
[22:09] serving.
[22:16] Yeah, it for me uh you know if it's at a
[22:19] private business and they bring a a
[22:22] coffee company in there, that's a little
[22:24] different than on the corner of the
[22:26] street or wherever. So that's one thing
[22:28] I see is different. And then the other
[22:30] thing is like spillet soil, sweet corn,
[22:34] pumpkins, different things like that
[22:36] outside of the farmers market where we
[22:38] start and stop. And
[22:39] >> well, wouldn't that too
[22:41] >> if you change it if you change it to
[22:42] >> I think we got to be specific in what we
[22:44] do.
[22:44] >> I was going to say if you change it to
[22:45] just
[22:46] >> non- brick and mortar like you said
[22:48] >> that affects every vendor at the farmers
[22:50] market. That affects every person that
[22:52] comes in to sell sweet corn.
[22:54] >> That affects all the vendors that come
[22:56] for Labor Day weekend. I mean, that's
[22:58] what it is. They don't It's not a
[22:59] brick-and-mortar store, so they'd all
[23:01] have to pay this.
[23:03] >> What's the purpose?
[23:04] >> That's what, you know,
[23:06] >> my my goal was to, you know, um make
[23:09] sure we I mean, everybody does a great
[23:11] job supporting small town businesses,
[23:13] but, you know, those small town
[23:15] businesses, they give back to the
[23:17] community, and I don't see that with the
[23:19] other ones coming in. And correct me if
[23:22] I'm wrong. Maybe I don't know, and maybe
[23:24] they do. let me know and I might be able
[23:28] to change my opinion on that.
[23:31] So, that's where I'm at with it. And I
[23:33] don't know if that's good enough purpose
[23:34] or not, Jenny, but you guys can let me
[23:37] know where we need to go in the
[23:39] direction with this.
[23:40] >> Derek brought up the Labor Day vendors.
[23:43] >> They actually pay a fee to the chamber,
[23:45] I believe, for being there. So,
[23:47] >> well, then they have to pay that would
[23:48] pay a fee to the chamber and they'd have
[23:50] to pay a fee to the city. So,
[23:52] >> Yep.
[23:52] >> Y
[23:53] >> I mean, and a lot of those people that
[23:54] do that are local. they, you know,
[23:56] they're localish. Yeah. I mean,
[23:59] >> yeah.
[23:59] >> So, I don't want to put an undue burden
[24:01] on them,
[24:01] >> right?
[24:02] >> You know, and this
[24:05] >> I get the food truck thing. I really do.
[24:07] I get the food truck thing where making
[24:10] sure it's safe and all that stuff and
[24:12] charging a fee for it.
[24:14] >> It's kind of protecting our local
[24:15] restaurants as well because they're not
[24:17] coming in for free. They're not doing
[24:19] any of that stuff. You know, I
[24:22] understand that. But I mean all the
[24:24] other ones I'm like,
[24:26] you know, they're not they're there for
[24:29] two months or whatever one day or what.
[24:31] I don't see an issue with having that,
[24:34] you know. That's just my opinion on it.
[24:38] >> Where does the pedaller's license stop
[24:40] when it comes to things like that?
[24:43] >> Um he's talking about like the other
[24:45] one, the pedaller fee where they come in
[24:47] to sell things. Uh
[24:48] >> so I mean like there'll be some that are
[24:49] subject to that already. Uh that is
[24:52] defined as like they have they are
[24:54] selling um is that just like door to
[24:56] door
[24:57] >> door to door?
[24:58] >> Yeah,
[24:58] >> I think that's the definition I'm going
[25:00] to look for right now because I was
[25:02] thinking that same thing that some might
[25:03] be covered under that.
[25:07] » I did check area around us as well. The
[25:11] ones that have them
[25:13] are food or beverage. There were some
[25:15] beverage ones. I think there's a
[25:18] margarita truck that goes around that
[25:20] you have to have a Right.
[25:21] >> Wait, there's a margarita truck.
[25:23] >> There is. There is. They have to have a license.
[25:29] >> We've had a two in center where those
[25:31] that had a food truck and they served
[25:32] inside then they actually had to
[25:33] transfer get their license to qualify
[25:35] them inside. So for those that are
[25:37] serving coffee in a in a facility, they
[25:40] might already have to do that by Iowa
[25:42] law.
[25:44] >> All right. So, can you correct me if I'm
[25:45] wrong here, but what I'm hearing is that
[25:47] this would have to be an ordinance
[25:49] change to do any of that.
[25:51] >> Yeah, I'm looking at Yes.
[25:53] >> Okay. So, no matter what happens, uh
[25:56] what we're talking about with the next
[25:58] item, whatever we say here wouldn't
[26:00] change that anyways because we would
[26:02] have to do an ordinance change to change
[26:04] uh that um which I wasn't tracking. So
[26:10] what I would say is for the for that
[26:13] schedule of fees like
[26:16] I wouldn't recommend to scrap that
[26:19] section of it because then we're just
[26:21] going to go back to what is there now
[26:23] and our updated section I think is
[26:25] higher than what
[26:28] um than what it was.
[26:34] So, um I would almost recommend
[26:37] >> leave it tabled until we
[26:38] >> Well, either that or pass this
[26:41] >> currently proposed and then we discuss
[26:44] the rest later.
[26:45] >> Yeah, we can't do any of these fees
[26:47] until you pass this.
[26:49] >> Um well, we can do them from the old
[26:50] rates, right?
[26:52] >> Um we're we're trying to get those
[26:53] changed, so we don't want to table it
[26:55] too long.
[26:55] >> Yeah, I would say if we're um going to
[26:58] move because when was it tabled? Was it
[26:59] last meeting last meeting? then then we
[27:01] need to take it off the table. I realize
[27:05] we're kind of in a time crunch because
[27:07] we only have one meeting because of the
[27:08] holidays, but sooner rather than later.
[27:11] >> Yeah.
[27:12] >> The one thing I will say because Johnny
[27:14] brought up a good point about the
[27:15] peddlers. It says,
[27:17] so this Chris, you would cover some of
[27:19] the delivery of goods or merchandise,
[27:21] but just from house to house or upon
[27:23] public street. So, I think that's where
[27:26] it probably wouldn't cover the um
[27:30] >> the park stuff.
[27:30] >> Yeah, the park stuff, the private
[27:32] property, but it would I guess if
[27:34] they're on the street.
[27:42] » I'll make a motion that we untable this
[27:44] and pass the current proposed fees
[27:48] resolution 2025-8.
[27:51] >> It has to be two different motions,
[27:52] correct?
[27:53] >> Yes. First, we got to take it off.
[27:55] >> My motion was to untab
[27:56] >> to take it off.
[27:56] >> I'll second the untabling.
[27:58] >> Okay, further discussion.
[28:03] » If not, this motion is to take uh the
[28:06] resolution off the table. Uh Allan,
[28:10] >> I
[28:11] >> Warner.
[28:12] >> I
[28:14] >> Feldcker.
[28:15] >> Hi,
[28:16] >> Clucky.
[28:17] >> Hi.
[28:20] Okay, it is off the table now. Is there
[28:24] another motion we want to make?
[28:26] >> Well, do you want to skip second and
[28:29] first and second readings and try to
[28:31] actually get it approved before the end
[28:32] of the year, or do you want to
[28:34] >> um Well, we don't even have an ordinance
[28:36] ready for that. So, this would just be
[28:38] to approve the new
[28:40] >> fees for what we have that go attached
[28:42] to the old ordinance already. So, we
[28:45] would have to come up with a a whole new
[28:48] ordinance change to look at the other
[28:50] thing. Okay.
[28:51] >> Um,
[28:52] and then I'm assuming that there's just
[28:54] going to be um some more
[28:59] things that I'll have to look into for
[29:00] different possibilities with uh Jenny
[29:02] and then we'll bring something to you.
[29:06] >> So,
[29:09] okay. Uh, we've got a motion for uh
[29:12] approving the resolution 202518.
[29:14] Amending the schedule of fees.
[29:17] >> Second.
[29:18] >> Okay.
[29:20] Got a motion and a second.
[29:22] Um, Warner
[29:24] >> I.
[29:26] >> Felnecker.
[29:27] >> Hi,
[29:28] >> Clucky.
[29:29] >> I,
[29:30] >> Alen.
[29:31] >> I.
[29:33] >> Okay. Resolution 202518 has passed
[29:37] 4 to zero. We'll move on to 10 to update
[29:41] authorized users. Yeah, this is just to
[29:44] add Misti to River's Edge and People's
[29:47] Bank. And we are going to take off
[29:48] Travis because we don't want extra
[29:50] people that don't need to have access to
[29:52] it. He was our backup and we won't need
[29:54] it anymore.
[29:56] >> So moved.
[29:59] >> Second.
[30:01] Got a motion and a second. All those in
[30:04] favor of updating authorized users,
[30:06] please say I.
[30:07] >> I.
[30:08] >> Opposed?
[30:09] Passes four to zero.
[30:12] Item 11 is resolution 202526
[30:16] setting wages for fiscal year 26.
[30:21] Okay,
[30:22] I need to get down here.
[30:26] So, last meeting we talked about uh the
[30:28] union contract and that we had uh big
[30:32] jumps that we needed to do for some of
[30:33] our guys to get them back to even just
[30:36] the medium range of uh their positions
[30:39] comparative to other uh cities in our
[30:41] area and people that do what they do.
[30:44] Um, you asked me to crunch the numbers
[30:46] and see how this would affect our
[30:48] current year's budget. And the electric
[30:51] budget would uh be increased by a little
[30:54] over $14,600.
[30:57] And they uh current in our budget have
[30:59] that in revenue over expenses. These
[31:01] will all be have to be amended because
[31:04] they weren't built into the expenses,
[31:06] but we have the uh um extra revenue over
[31:09] expenses to cover these increases this
[31:12] year.
[31:13] um in almost all these departments and
[31:16] I'll talk about the one that doesn't.
[31:17] So, uh gas uh an increase of a little
[31:21] over $7,300. Also, they have a surplus
[31:24] uh a surplus uh estimated for this year.
[31:28] Um water and wastewater
[31:30] um are each going to be about a little
[31:33] over $3,600
[31:35] and they can both support it. Telecom uh
[31:39] is uh $4,262.
[31:42] Now, telecom is not budgeted to have a
[31:44] surplus. Um, I do not think that this uh
[31:49] amount is going to make or break what
[31:51] we're doing right now. And with all of
[31:52] our changes that we're making, it should
[31:54] still make it just fine. Uh, as long as
[31:57] we stick to the schedule, uh, we will
[31:59] have uh internet changes coming up
[32:02] shortly as well.
[32:04] And then street. Um, that one is uh
[32:09] $4,262
[32:11] and we do still have uh enough money in
[32:14] the rut fund to cover that as well. And
[32:17] then uh cemetery uh is uh $890 $95. So
[32:23] that's not really going to move
[32:25] anything. And then uh the utilities is
[32:28] another 1,200 that's going to be split
[32:30] over four utilities. So also all of
[32:33] these are very doable. this year. We
[32:35] will have amendments that cover them,
[32:36] but nothing is going to um negatively
[32:40] affect us to be able to do it early.
[32:42] Again, that's going to be completely on
[32:44] you uh on your guys's decision on
[32:46] whether you want to start this January 1
[32:47] with this resolution or if it waits
[32:50] until July.
[32:52] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution
[32:54] 202526.
[32:57] » Second.
[32:59] I'll second it. Further discussion.
[33:06] Okay, we'll do roll call.
[33:10] Feldhacker.
[33:11] >> I.
[33:12] >> Clucky.
[33:13] >> Hi.
[33:14] >> Allen.
[33:14] >> Hi.
[33:15] >> Warner.
[33:16] >> I.
[33:18] >> Resolution passes 4 to zero.
[33:22] Thank you.
[33:26] Next is a discussion on electric
[33:29] scooters.
[33:30] Um,
[33:32] I had uh
[33:35] in your packet you've got some
[33:37] proposals. I visited with uh Jacob and
[33:41] Brian about these. Um,
[33:45] I've got some proposals which um provide
[33:50] some critical modifications in addition
[33:52] to the existing city ordinance
[33:55] concerning electric scooters,
[33:57] including the recent additions by the
[34:00] city council. These recommend
[34:03] recommendations stem from a shared
[34:04] desire to make our community safer for
[34:07] all residents, particularly our youth.
[34:10] The time for action is now. We must
[34:13] proactively prevent a potential tragedy
[34:16] rather than react to one after it
[34:18] occurred.
[34:21] These recommendations are designed to
[34:23] mitigate risk, encourage parental
[34:26] involvement, and ensure that individuals
[34:30] possess the necessary skills and
[34:32] knowledge and judgment to safely operate
[34:35] motorized scooters.
[34:38] My first proposal is to require a
[34:42] minimum age of 10 years old to operate
[34:46] in in the city. Operating a motorized
[34:49] scooter safely
[34:51] requires a specific level of strength,
[34:54] coordination, motor skills, judgment,
[34:57] and a basic understanding of traffic
[34:59] laws and city ordinances.
[35:02] I believe um that our children that are
[35:07] under 10 uh do not have all of those
[35:10] skills that they need to travel safely
[35:14] on city streets and sidewalks. The
[35:17] proposal specifically is to enforce a
[35:20] minimum age requirement of 10 years old
[35:22] to operate a motorized scooter on public
[35:25] streets, sidewalks, or parks within
[35:28] Haywarden.
[35:30] Um, any questions, comments,
[35:34] uh, reactions to that
[35:38] proposal? What are your thoughts?
[35:41] >> It's not a bad idea.
[35:43] You're you're you're right on the age
[35:45] limit. I I've seen kids that shouldn't
[35:49] even ride a tricycle,
[35:50] >> right?
[35:50] And I don't I don't want to see
[35:52] somebody get hurt.
[35:54] It's 10's a pretty good is a good round
[35:59] age for that idea. It's a good idea in
[36:02] my mind. Okay,
[36:05] other thoughts.
[36:10] Let's move on to uh proposal number two
[36:13] is mandatory helmet use for riders aged
[36:16] 14 and under.
[36:19] The most serious injuries involving
[36:21] motorized scooters are predominantly
[36:22] head related. Protecting our children
[36:25] must be our top priority.
[36:27] The proposal is to require all motorized
[36:30] scooter operators aged 14 and under to
[36:33] wear a properly fitted safety helmet at
[36:35] all times while riding on public
[36:37] property, including streets and
[36:39] sidewalks.
[36:45] Reaction
[36:49] It's about protecting the kids. Really?
[36:51] >> Do we require it for a bicycle though?
[36:53] >> We do not.
[36:55] >> The only counter argument is
[36:56] >> that'd be Yeah, that's that devil's
[36:58] advocate counter argument. We don't
[36:59] require it for a bicycle. I understand
[37:01] the scooter goes faster
[37:03] >> and protecting kids is a paramount, but
[37:07] can we require one without the other?
[37:09] >> In my mind, a scooter is dramatically
[37:12] different than a bicycle. When you take
[37:15] a look at the uh the size of the wheels
[37:18] and the stability,
[37:20] um
[37:22] I a bicycle would handle uh ruts in the
[37:26] street and uneven sidewalks much better
[37:29] than a um um
[37:33] a electric scooter would be. Plus, uh
[37:36] you've got kids standing on it
[37:38] >> rather than sitting on a bicycle. I I
[37:40] feel like a bicycle is a different
[37:44] animal.
[37:45] Um
[37:46] >> yeah, I don't dis I don't disagree.
[37:48] >> Yeah, these we are talking about
[37:50] electric motorized scooters.
[37:51] >> Electric motorized scooters.
[37:54] >> That's easy to not like the
[37:56] >> not the ones you
[37:57] >> Right. Right.
[37:59] >> Those don't go very fast.
[38:01] >> No, this is No, you're right. It just
[38:03] that was my counter argument. We don't
[38:05] require for a bicycle.
[38:06] >> That's a good point. Okay. Anything
[38:15] else?
[38:19] My third proposal is to uh set a speed
[38:23] limit of 15 miles per hour for the
[38:25] motorized scooters. The higher speeds
[38:28] drastically reduce the time available
[38:29] for both scooter operators and vehicle
[38:32] drivers to avoid collisions leading to
[38:34] more serious incidents. Uh, I know I
[38:38] have witnessed um riders on motorized
[38:42] scooters um going faster than 15 miles
[38:46] per hour. And it's to me it's scary to
[38:49] see that. Um the proposal would be to
[38:53] implement a speed limit of 15 mph for
[38:56] all motorized scooters operating within
[38:58] the city limits regardless of location,
[39:01] street, sidewalk, or bike path.
[39:04] I have a question about can we can we
[39:06] actually enforce this one because not
[39:08] all scooters have speedometers.
[39:10] >> So the kids don't know how fast they're
[39:11] going,
[39:13] >> right?
[39:13] >> Can we can this one actually be enforced
[39:15] because they don't know?
[39:17] >> I talked with Brian about this and and he had concerns about the radar
[39:22] guns, you know, don't do that.
[39:25] uh it would be a subjective thing and it
[39:28] probably would be something that if you
[39:30] see somebody and I think maybe we have
[39:32] some language already that if someone is
[39:35] driving um
[39:38] beyond the the situation the road
[39:42] situation and and such that that would
[39:44] be um against the rules anyway. I don't
[39:48] know if it's in our ordinance or not,
[39:50] but
[39:50] >> yeah, if if they're operating in a
[39:53] manner which is um
[39:56] harmful to public safety to themselves
[39:58] or others, then we can address it
[40:00] >> just under because they're required to
[40:02] obey any general traffic laws under the
[40:05] Code of Iowa.
[40:07] >> Yeah.
[40:08] >> So, we don't do Do you really I mean, do
[40:10] you really need the specific language of
[40:12] 15 miles an hour? Because if the kid
[40:14] doesn't, like I said, if the kid doesn't
[40:15] know how fast they're going, can you
[40:17] give a kid a speeding ticket on a on a
[40:19] bicycle?
[40:22] » No.
[40:23] >> Okay. So, if there's no speedometer, you
[40:25] can't tell how fast you're going. Is it
[40:27] really fair to the the kid or And but if
[40:30] they're driving it recklessly, that's a whole different animal. So,
[40:32] >> yeah. And frankly, if uh a kid is
[40:37] driving at 15 mph on our streets or
[40:40] sidewalks, that that's reckless as far
[40:42] as I'm concerned. Um and as far as
[40:46] enforcement, uh there would be
[40:48] definitely some um subjectivity uh on
[40:52] the part of uh the police. I do think it
[40:56] would be um
[40:59] it would be good to have
[41:03] um the police maybe pull over someone
[41:05] who is in their opinion driving too fast
[41:10] and
[41:11] especially 15 miles per hour. Um it
[41:15] gives them the opportunity to pull them
[41:16] over and talk to them about it. I would
[41:19] not ticket somebody probably for uh you
[41:22] know going 16 miles per hour or 17 miles
[41:25] per hour, but sometimes sometimes we
[41:28] need a little
[41:28] >> one kid over for going too fast. Word's
[41:30] going to travel that hey don't go too
[41:31] fast you're going to get pulled over.
[41:33] >> I mean kids are going to talk to each
[41:34] other. So it's not it's not a it's not
[41:36] such a bad thing. I just don't know if
[41:39] that
[41:39] >> how do you enforce
[41:40] >> how do you well yeah how do you enforce
[41:41] it and then
[41:43] >> having it be specifically say that you
[41:45] know writing recklessly is a is a
[41:47] different animal. So if it said that,
[41:50] which our ours already does, that's we
[41:52] don't necessarily need that verbiage.
[41:55] >> Correct.
[41:56] >> So,
[41:58] >> okay. Yeah. And Jenny, could you look at
[42:01] that to see and not right now
[42:03] necessarily, just to see that our
[42:05] current language would cover
[42:08] >> Well, the we don't need current
[42:10] language. So, the code of Iowa covers
[42:12] it. So, any reckless use is already in
[42:14] the code of Iowa. So like chief had
[42:17] indicated it's it's already there.
[42:20] Reckless,
[42:21] >> okay,
[42:21] >> is already there. You know, they have to
[42:23] stop at stop signs. They have to, you
[42:26] know, yield at yield signs. They have to
[42:28] yield to the rightway. They're subject
[42:29] to the same traffic regulations
[42:33] that are already set forth in the code,
[42:34] which would include reckless.
[42:36] >> Would we be better to say like we
[42:39] recommend speeds under 15?
[42:42] And I don't know,
[42:44] >> my concern has always been enforcability
[42:47] >> within these regulations. You know, the
[42:50] first two I think are are obviously a
[42:53] lot more
[42:54] >> easy to regulate because they're not
[42:56] subjective.
[42:57] >> The the speed limit's going to cause a
[42:59] lot of issues, I think, from a
[43:00] subjectivity. We can't have subjective
[43:03] regulations.
[43:05] >> I should can't say we can't have, but it
[43:07] will make
[43:09] >> chief's job a lot harder.
[43:11] um as well as you know his officers. So
[43:15] that would be my concern would just be
[43:17] having it be subjective.
[43:20] >> Okay. Uh but riding a scooter u
[43:25] recklessly is subjective, isn't it?
[43:29] >> It is.
[43:30] >> Okay. And would would you say that
[43:35] um
[43:35] >> it is it is defined? I mean, there's
[43:37] reckless defined in the um code.
[43:47] » Yeah. Willful disregard.
[43:49] >> Yeah. Willful or want disregard for the
[43:51] safety of persons or property? I mean,
[43:54] how you going to determine if a
[43:56] 10-year-old is being willful and not,
[43:59] you know, in disregard for others? It's
[44:03] going to be difficult. And what are you
[44:05] going to do to them if they are?
[44:06] >> Is CARIS driving more relaxed than that?
[44:09] >> Um, yeah,
[44:12] >> it is, right?
[44:14] >> Yes,
[44:14] >> it is. And there's there's case law out
[44:17] there as far as speed alone cannot be
[44:19] enough to determine um whether and a
[44:22] vehicle is operating recklessly. And so
[44:26] you need other factors besides speed.
[44:28] >> Yeah.
[44:29] >> Create unnecessary danger. tire
[44:32] squealing.
[44:37] » Okay.
[44:38] Um
[44:39] >> I think there's a good effort to try and
[44:42] do that. I mean, to go 25 miles an hour
[44:44] on a bike, I mean, it takes effort and a
[44:46] 10-year-old's not going to do that where
[44:47] on a scooter,
[44:49] >> you know, they're there seconds. So, if
[44:51] they're allowed to be on like sidewalks
[44:54] and to be more prone to interact with
[44:57] pedestrians,
[44:58] it's nice to give Brian some leeway so
[45:00] he can actually enforce some
[45:02] recklessness. But,
[45:03] >> sure,
[45:04] >> I think just the temptation to have that
[45:06] is going to be easier and more likely.
[45:09] Mhm.
[45:10] >> And and and frankly my concern on this
[45:14] particular item is not so much
[45:17] uh concerns for u others but for concern
[45:22] for the writer who is going over 15
[45:27] miles per hour and might be doing
[45:29] everything right
[45:32] but it's too fast for the conditions of
[45:34] the street and sidewalk.
[45:40] But um
[45:41] >> agree I would agree with that. I mean,
[45:45] you know, if they're
[45:47] >> Well, I I've seen it. I mean, kids kids
[45:50] will go as fast as they can down 16th
[45:54] Street. And I think they're banned from
[45:56] 16th Street now. Is that one of the
[45:59] streets that they're banned from?
[46:02] >> No.
[46:03] >> Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. That's a
[46:04] good street to get uh get some speed up
[46:07] and uh or you get one of those scooters,
[46:12] you know, a little loose. And I'm I'm
[46:15] concerned with with the rider in this
[46:17] particular uh case.
[46:21] Um but
[46:23] let's move on. We we'll have a chance to
[46:26] amend these uh at another time. Um,
[46:31] number four is consequences and parental
[46:33] involvement. To be truly effective,
[46:36] safety regulations require the active
[46:38] participation of parents. Finding
[46:40] children is often inappropriate. The
[46:43] primary consequence for a minor's
[46:45] infraction should involve the parents
[46:48] managing the privilege of riding the
[46:50] scooter.
[46:52] the um
[46:56] and so the the proposal that I have
[46:58] which
[47:01] is just uh can can be uh changed but uh
[47:05] to establish a range of enforcement
[47:07] actions dependent upon the severity of
[47:10] the infraction and the number of
[47:12] previous infractions starting with a
[47:14] verbal warning of reports to the parents
[47:19] uh a ticket issued to the parents with
[47:22] escalating fines of $25 for the first
[47:25] event, first offense, 50 for the second,
[47:28] and 100 for the third and subsequent
[47:30] offenses, leading to a temporary ban on
[47:34] riding electric scooters of up to 30
[47:36] days within the city limits. And the
[47:38] consequences can be appealed to the city
[47:41] council within 30 days of the
[47:43] infraction.
[47:46] Um,
[47:48] right now I think we have
[47:52] the ability of the police department to
[47:55] uh take the scooter.
[47:58] >> Yeah, that's the only enforcement action
[47:59] that we have is to take the scooter.
[48:01] >> Yeah. Seems to me like we should have
[48:04] some options prior to that. And
[48:09] I I'm I don't really care for the uh the
[48:12] optics of the police department taking a
[48:15] kid's scooter and putting it in the in
[48:17] the uh the back of the pickup. Um,
[48:22] I think I think we want to
[48:27] if if it becomes necessary to
[48:30] incentivize parents to take away the
[48:35] right of uh riding the electric scooters
[48:37] from their um minor children.
[48:42] Thoughts?
[48:43] >> I mean, I don't disagree with it. I
[48:44] don't I don't disagree with
[48:47] any of this. You know, if a if a if
[48:51] chief pull chief stops the same kid six
[48:54] times,
[48:56] you know, a verbal warning obviously
[48:58] isn't doing any good. So maybe you do
[49:00] got to tell the parents, you know, and
[49:02] let that be we don't like being
[49:05] subjective, but you know, if it's one,
[49:07] two times, it's not that big of a deal,
[49:09] but if it gets out of hand, then yeah,
[49:12] then this gives a little bit of bite to
[49:14] it. And I I don't disagree with it. The
[49:17] only my only question is would this fall
[49:18] under the same category as a traffic
[49:21] ticket or a parking ticket?
[49:24] >> Would it be a city or violation?
[49:27] >> Right. So like a parking ticket
[49:29] basically.
[49:29] >> It's not going to go on their driving
[49:30] record.
[49:31] >> No, that's what I'm asking. I mean I
[49:33] don't want it to
[49:34] >> No. Is it going to affect and can you
[49:36] find a parent for something the kid did?
[49:38] >> I see a lot.
[49:39] >> Yeah.
[49:40] >> I mean a lot of issues with this.
[49:43] >> Um
[49:44] >> Yes, I do too. I see verbal warning is
[49:47] great. I think chief can report to the
[49:50] parents without it being in an
[49:51] ordinance. He has the ability to go
[49:53] knock on the door and say, "Your kid's
[49:54] acting like a fool." Um, not all kids
[49:58] have parents. Not all kids have two
[50:00] parents. I tell you what, my kid gets a
[50:02] ticket at his dad's house. I'm not
[50:04] paying it. You know, there's just so I
[50:07] just this I don't like. But I think
[50:10] yeah, finding the parents is probably
[50:12] going to have a lot of issues. And I
[50:15] think that's what we kind of discussed
[50:17] when we decided to just take the scooter
[50:19] away
[50:20] >> because Yeah. Are you going to find a
[50:21] 10-year-old? What happens when the
[50:23] 10-year-old doesn't pay?
[50:26] » No, you wouldn't find a 10 10-y old.
[50:28] >> No.
[50:29] >> Can you legally find a parent for it?
[50:32] >> Find out.
[50:34] >> I'm not going to tell you. I'd fight it.
[50:37] >> I mean, that's
[50:38] that that'd be,
[50:39] >> you know, what if the kid's on a
[50:40] neighbor scooter and the parent doesn't
[50:42] know, right?
[50:43] >> Um the the whatifs go on and on and on.
[50:47] >> And I don't want to put something in an
[50:48] ordinance with what if
[50:50] >> I absolutely none of this. I am not in
[50:53] favor. I'm in favor of safety 100%. I'd
[50:57] probably stop a kid if it wasn't even my
[50:58] kid that was recklessly driving. And I
[51:01] have done that before. Um and I do it
[51:04] again just, you know, for their safety.
[51:06] um takes a village, right? So,
[51:10] I don't know. I'm not I I agree with our
[51:13] ordinance that we just
[51:16] um we just passed not that long ago. So,
[51:19] I don't see any of this needing to be
[51:21] added or amended. And that's just my
[51:23] opinion.
[51:25] >> And I think that's what you said,
[51:27] Christie, about it takes a village. You
[51:28] know, we kind of talked about that.
[51:30] >> What can we do now? School is in
[51:32] session. You know, maybe now is the time
[51:34] to to push the schools to to make kids
[51:36] more aware. Maybe we wait till
[51:38] springtime when they start using them.
[51:39] Do they use them when it's this cold?
[51:42] >> Yeah, that's Brian.
[51:44] >> I saw one the other day through the
[51:46] slush and snow.
[51:47] >> Nice.
[51:48] >> Yes.
[51:48] >> Thankfully, the the speeds were just
[51:51] right for the conditions.
[51:53] >> I don't I I I don't disagree. I I don't
[51:56] disagree with the first two. Yeah,
[51:58] >> putting an age limit on it is is fine.
[52:02] And then making a kid wear a helmet
[52:04] who's under the age of 14, I'm perfectly
[52:06] okay with that, too. The other ones, I
[52:09] don't think we need. I mean, we got the
[52:12] take your scooter away, you know, let
[52:15] Brian do his community thing. He knows
[52:18] the community, too. He can handle that.
[52:21] But the the first two I'm completely
[52:23] okay with and putting, you know, we
[52:25] talked about that before, maybe putting
[52:26] an age limit on it, but we weren't sure
[52:28] if we could.
[52:31] But I don't think that I don't think
[52:32] that's an issue. And having making you
[52:34] wear a helmet, that's that's fine, too.
[52:36] But the other ones, I don't think we
[52:37] necessarily need to add. So,
[52:45] okay. Anything else?
[52:50] So I think the plan is um you know this
[52:54] was just just a discussion item.
[52:56] >> We will maybe put these together for a
[53:00] um
[53:04] » potential amendment.
[53:05] Yeah.
[53:08] >> And u and then we will have some
[53:10] readings where we will be able to amend
[53:12] and decide.
[53:14] >> That sounds good.
[53:14] >> Uh the wording and what we want to do
[53:17] with that. But I wanted to put that out
[53:19] in front of you now so you could think
[53:21] about that.
[53:22] >> You know, I don't know if we've offered
[53:24] any safety courses yet on any of this,
[53:26] but that's really the focus I'd like to
[53:28] see us move towards. Just
[53:30] >> talk to them about how important it is
[53:33] >> agree with just like hunter safety or
[53:35] any other thing that that is done in the
[53:39] public sector anyway.
[53:40] >> And now would be the time when they're
[53:41] all in school and not riding their
[53:43] scooters so when it does come time they know what the rules are. So,
[53:47] >> well, yeah,
[53:48] >> you could even have a required safety
[53:50] course at a certain age.
[53:52] >> I don't know.
[53:53] >> And and we've talked about that and um
[53:56] and I think we'll probably
[53:58] >> I'm sure there's other communities out
[53:59] there that do that that we can we don't
[54:01] have to reinvent the wheel. We can
[54:03] >> borrow from them and do one. So,
[54:09] » okay,
[54:10] let's move on. We've got a consent
[54:12] agenda.
[54:14] got a temporary transfer from the
[54:17] Hayward Golf Club to the Hayward
[54:19] Community Center. Uh, two of those and
[54:23] ownership update for Casey's general
[54:26] store.
[54:28] Yep. So, uh, occasionally Casey's, uh,
[54:32] corporate Casey's, uh, changes, uh,
[54:34] ownership over who's over their, uh,
[54:36] alcohol permits. It's not anything like
[54:38] local here. So, uh, we just pass through
[54:40] shows up in my, uh, system to approve
[54:43] for their ownership update, and I just
[54:44] throw it on here. So,
[54:48] » any questions?
[54:51] Have a motion. We got a motion and a
[54:54] second. All those in favor of approving
[54:56] the consent agenda, please say I.
[54:59] >> Opposed? Passes four to zero. We are at
[55:03] the end of our agenda. Um, I would take
[55:06] a motion to adjurnn. So moved.
[55:07] >> So moved.
[55:09] >> First
[55:10] and and a second.
[55:12] >> I'll second.
[55:14] >> All those in favor of adjournment,
[55:15] please say I.
[55:17] >> Opposed. Passes four to zero. Our next
[55:20] meeting is January 14th,
[55:23] 2026.
[55:26] Thank you. Thank you. Way to go, John.
[55:31] >> Thanks, John.
[55:32] >> You're supposed to bring cake.
[55:34] >> There ain't no cake. That's above the
[55:37] $25 limit or whatever. Uh the gift or
[55:40] something. $5 limit.