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p.m we're gonna have the Pledge of

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Allegiance from Miss commissioner Ruby

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cohens are you going to do it okay well

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Jen Houston is going to do it

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right okay

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everyone thank you I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic for which it

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stands one nation under God indivisible

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with liberty and justice for

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all thank you uh roll call please

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chairperson Richard present Vice

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chairperson cohens present commissioner

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hon

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present hey item D oral

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Communications this is the time for the

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public to address the Planning

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Commission on the consent calendar or

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any other matters that are not on the

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public hearing portion of the agenda

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after obtaining permission to proceed by

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the presiding officer speaker should

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first state their full name and address

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for the record but it is not required

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the speaker shall limit their address to

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3 minutes any public comments that are

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discriminatory defamatory or otherwise

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not protected speech will not be

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considered consented to or otherwise

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adopted by the planning Commissions in

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its deliberation and findings as a

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courtesy to others please silence your

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cell phones and other electronic devices

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the Planning Commission strives to treat

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all participants with Civility and we

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ask that you do the

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same I'm give you seconds I see a lot of

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cell phones being silenced there um but

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also today as we do have a lot of folks

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here let's please remember we do need to

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keep our remarks to three minutes there

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will be a lot of remarks I'm sure so

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with that being said if anyone would

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like to address the Planning Commission

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on items not on the consent or on the

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consent calendar other matters please

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form a line there at the

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middle if you're here for the

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subdivision that's a public hearing that

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your opportunity will come up

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later um so what's on the um consent

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calendar are minutes of previous

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meetings and a Time extension for a um

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for a map that's all but but any other

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any matters that are not on public

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hearings is this is the time to

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speak thank you for that

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clarification

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okay seeing no one I will close oral

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hello my name is Judith tro I reside at

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4500 West 129 Street I've been a

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longtime resident but I'm a little

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confused about the meeting we were told

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that this was a meeting on the Planning

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Commission in regard

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to uh the plan rezoning or whatever on

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on alunda Boulevard yeah so that's what

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uh gr Greg was just explaining there's a

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number of things on the agenda what

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consent calendar there will be a public

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hearing open for that part that still be

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during this meeting thank

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you okay items on the consent calendar

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are the Planning Commission meetings of

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February 21st 2024 Planning Commission

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minutes of April 17 2024 Planning

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Commission minutes of May 15 2024 time

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extension

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for the hotel project at 11444 AAA

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Avenue take a

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motion for it any motions I motion to

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vote Mo to it's approve to approve I

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mean I'm sorry yeah have a second okay

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these are just for the minutes correct

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and the and the time and the time

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extension for the permit for the

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hotel if there's anything on there that

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you'd like to pull you just mention the

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item so if it's four you just pull item

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four well I was going to ask about the

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the Acasia Hotel yeah if you just have a

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question you can make the motion and

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then that before we vote we can deal

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with questions okay if you want to if

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you want to discuss that discuss that

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item separately then pull it from the

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consent calendar I'll pull it okay so

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we're just dealing with the three

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minutes right okay so we have a motion

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to approve I have motion to approve just

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the minutes minutes approve second

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second second okay sorry okay

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commissioner hon uh yay Vice chairperson

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cohens yes chairperson Richard yes okay

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now now um you have the floor okay well

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I just want to know if everything was

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followed um well I just want to know on

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itself there was a little confusion I

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saw some emails um

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I saw some emails basically and I saw

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the extension but they never received a

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rebuttal afterwards is this from the

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from the law firm that you were seeing

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emails no there the two the two people

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emails that came in not from the law

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firm they're in here no no no I saw

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those emails as well correct I saw I saw

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those emails but just to confirm

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uh the extension

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for that hotel it wasn't ever laps

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correct oh you're talking about the

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emails requesting the extension oh yeah

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no it it didn't lapse they made the

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request before it well it's lapsed now

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but it would be retroactively reinstated

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and because they made their application

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before the Hotel lapsed that's

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acceptable practice okay it doesn't

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extend beyond one year from the date it

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expired it's not one year from today

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it's from when it expired so uh it's

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just related to the difficulty of

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getting all the paperwork and so forth

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and the and the Commissioners all here

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at the same time so okay that's what I

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was thinking okay um basically that was

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the only question now say that he

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doesn't finish for instance we give him

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the extension he doesn't finish at all

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we have to do a new cup it is going to

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be a c okay that was the clarification

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that I need this was an approved cup and

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if it if it lapses final for the final

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time than a new CP would be required

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okay and so this is considered the final

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time then yes okay then I'm good now you

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just clarify it for me okay so we need a

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motion motion to approve second okay

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Vice chairperson

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yes um commissioner hon yes and

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chairperson

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Richard yes okay this uh this item was

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continued or extended for the year

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okay okay that concludes the consent

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calendar there are no continued public

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hearings so now now we're at the portion

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of the new public hearings first item is

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design review application Dr

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20248 now is the time in place to open

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the public hearing to consider design

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review 20 Dr

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2024 08 uh senior senior planner Maria

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mahic will present the staff report good

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evening Commissioners I do not have a

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staff report as we are requesting a

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continuance of this item to a later date

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to make sure that all uh items are ready

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to go for your review and

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decision okay so I'll entertain a motion

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to continue this item I second for

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clarification is this continue to a date

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uncertain we had requested July 17 2024

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but right now we are requesting to adate

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uncertain okay whenever we continue to

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adate uncertain we'll Reen notice the

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public okay okay great okay so we will

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motion I'll entertain a motion to

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continue this item to a date

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uncertain a motion yeah second wait moot

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oh my gosh I'm getting so ex yes say a

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motion yes a motion okay cool second who

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made the motion motion yes second

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vote okay uh Vice chairperson cohens yes

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commissioner hon yes and chairperson

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Richard yes okay so this item is

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continued all right okay next is design

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review application dr22

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24004 now is the time in place to open

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the public hearing to consider design

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review application Dr

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20244 assistant planner anise Bermudez

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will present the staff

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report good evening Commissioners I'll

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be presenting the design review

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application for the holy Resurrection

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Church in school located at 4955 West

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Street the church is located in a

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residential Zone surrounded

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predominantly by residential uses it's

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located on the corner of 119th Street

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and Felton Avenue and just across Felton

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Avenue is another religious assembly use

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the New Life Community

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Church the parcel is rather large at

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just over 28,000 square fet and

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currently on the lot are two structures

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one is the predom one is the main

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Auditorium for the church and the other

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is the school and classroom

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area both are going to be remodeled and

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expanded this is what the facade of the

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structure currently looks like from

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119th Street it's two stories a little

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over 32 feet tall and as you can see

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there's plenty of Street Frontage so

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that gives great opportunity to improve

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the Landscaping which we'll look at

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later this is an alternative view of the

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buildings from Felton Avenue you can see

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the school on the left has the flat roof

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and the church is on the right with the

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gable

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roof so this is the proposed site plan

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some of the modifications are shown with

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the yellow highlight with the orangey

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yellow highlight um The Roof is going to

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to be expanded to accommodate some

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widened side aisles on either side of

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the church this is not to increase the

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number of seats in the auditorium but

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just to accommodate um Ada accessibility

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so there's an a nice path of travel to

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get through there also shown is a new

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tower and elevator that's going to serve

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all both all both of the main floors of

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the church as well as the third floor

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roof deck um there is going to be a

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third floor roof deck as well as a

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second floor roof deck and on the third

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floor floor is a new kitchen net and um

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restroom so this is the proposed layout

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for the first floor as I mentioned

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earlier one of the changes is going to

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be widening to the side aisles to allow

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that increased accessibility the altar

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in the front of the church is being

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redesigned and reshaped um some of the

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restrooms are going to be relocated to

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the southwest corner of the church

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there's going to be a new Sacrament

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Bakery and Lounge area

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when it comes to the school side some of

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the um there's going to be a remodel of

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the restroom and a little kitchenet

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added for a little coffee area rather

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added near the kitchenet which is

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existing this is the proposed layout of

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floor um on the far west side there's a

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new conference room and office space

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adjacent to that is an existing

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mezzanine area that is going to be

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remodeled so that it opens out to the

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outdoor deck toward the front of the

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church is going to be another little

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Lounge area or a small conference room I

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can't quite tell from here but I it's

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one of the two and then um on the school

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side there's going to be um another

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restroom

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remodel so this gives us a closer look

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at the roof decks that are being added

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on the second floor it's about 1600 ft

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and a staircase can take you up to the

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third floor roof deck as well as an

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elevator that serves that area the third

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floor roof deck will be approximately

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2600 Square ft and it'll be enclosed on

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all sides by a 24in parapet wall and

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above that a 42in tempered glass guard

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rail so all in all about 5 and 1/2 ft of

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protection on all sides there will also

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be a new kitchenet and restroom up there

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these are the North and South elevations

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which give us a view of what the

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exterior of the structure will look like

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after the remodel as you can tell it's a

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very traditional Church there's going to

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be um ornate decorations and copper

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domes as well as gold um crosses that

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Adorn the

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building there's a tower there too that

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we'll analyze in a

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moment these are altern elevations where

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you can see other

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angles also included in the scope of

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work of this project is Landscaping so

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mulch is going to be added to existing

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plant areas to freshen up what's

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existing and the designers have proposed

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to add new varieties of trees and

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shrubs these are the V varieties that

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have been called out by the designer

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there's going to be citrus tree

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and different types of plants and um

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bushes those vibrant colors such as the

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orange and the purple and the blue are

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going to provide nice pops of color to

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really enhance the street Frontage of

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this

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project so this Tower is one of the key

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design elements of this project it's

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it's functional as it encloses the the

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elevator um it's also a you know it's

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also a design element so we have the the

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cross at the top as well as a little

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copper gold Dome that's up there

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um the what looks to be like a little

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glass window on that Tower is actually a

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proposed electric message center so I'd

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like to point out that that's going to

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be reviewed separately by the design I

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mean by the uh planning department

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because we have to make sure that meets

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um the zoning code and so we'll be

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reviewing that

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separately um the tower is proposed to

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be a little over 72 ft tall so that is

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significant but it's not unlike some

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other Steeples that we have in the

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church there in the city there's St

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Joseph's Church as well as Trinity

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Lutheran that both have tall Steeples so

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it's it's seen elsewhere in the city as

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well this is a closeup of the roof plan

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much of which is going to be existing

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the shingles are to remain um the roof

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will be expanded to accommodate those

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widened sides

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aisles

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um and the roof Dome is another design

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element that stands out and it's going

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to be about 16 feet tall and 25 feet in

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diameter so it's it is significant and

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um that's included in this in this um

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slide and that brings us to the staff

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recommendation which is that we

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recommend for the Planning Commission to

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adopt the resolution 202 2413 with

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conditions of approval approving design

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review application Dr

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20244 okay thank

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you does the Planning Commission have

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any questions for

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staff just to confirm that right now

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with what we are voting on it is not the

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electric sign that's going to come up at

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a different point to see if it measures

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this is just the structural plan that

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was put forth correct the electronic

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message center will be reviewed only by

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the planning department as um signage

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usually is thank you

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yes no questions questions I had a

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question just on the bathroom you

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mentioned that there on the second floor

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that there is a new ADA Bathroom being

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added the third floor the third floor um

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reason I asked a question is there a

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first floor ADA Bathroom already

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existing good question I don't have the

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full set of plans in front of me but I

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do know that that third floor there's

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only going to be one bathroom up there

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and it is Ada accessible as far as first

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floor goes I would need to check the

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plan set to confirm or perhaps the

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designers can speak to that okay

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gotcha um that's it for

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me okay is the applicant present and do

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they wish to

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speak good evening Mr chairman and the

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Comm Miss um my name is aim Bell the

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project

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architect um and my client is right here

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father

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seral on the issue about the Ada we do

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have on each

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Flor um

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Ada restrooms perfect and they are all

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accessible through the elevator awesome

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okay I just wanted to make sure there

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wasn't just only a ADA Bathroom on the

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third floor each floor icluding the roof

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the one on the Roof oh right okay uh

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plan commission have any questions of

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The Advocate n no questions okay thank

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you for being here today appreciate

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thank you very much

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thanks Mr mlan are there any documents

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to place in the administrative recret

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there are none but uh this this is also

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the opportunity if anyone in the public

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wants to address the commission oh okay

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I did miss that one is there anyone who

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wishes to address the commission on this

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issue okay see none there is no

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documents do my fellow Commissioners

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have any final comments on this item or

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questions of

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Staff no no further questions good okay

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I'll for formally close the public

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hearing on these items and do I have a

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motion to approve motion to approve

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second the second the secretary please

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call for the

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vote Vice chairperson Collins yes

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commissioner hon yes and chairperson

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Richard yes okay this application is

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approved thank you aome okay next is

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subdivision development application SD

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20242 give me one second let me get

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stuff moved around here

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[Applause]

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sd2 all

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right now is the time in place to open

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the public hearing to consider

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subdivision development application

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sd224

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00002 assistant planner Nathan Levy will

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present the staff report good evening

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commissioners um so we have before you a

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proposal for a vesting tentative track

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map uh this this uh tenative tract map

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here revolves around the Hawthorne

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Nursery site uh the owners are proposing

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to develop it and in order to do that

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they need to combine the 15 existing

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Parcels into two one north of alunda

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Boulevard and one

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South um the primary issue here is that

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vesting inative track map uh the

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development and the permitting of the

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actual housing is not part of this

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project uh that is because the city

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council has passed several ordinances

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that Implement a housing overlay uh this

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was part of the general plan uh this was

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part of the housing element update that

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only commissioner Richard was on on the

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commission at that time uh but did go

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through the Planning Commission uh the

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the city council has stated that a

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residential development is a

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byright uh approval

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on within the housing overlay uh

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so when we look at the site we see that

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it does have different zoning we've got

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a mix of commercial and residential but

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like I mentioned it's all within a

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housing overlay so the housing overlay

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was established uh was approved in

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2022 uh this housing overlay is is where

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the city council established that

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byright

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development So currently as I mentioned

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there's 15 total parcels across both

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sites uh it has a total of uh just over

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three gross Acres um there are four

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existing structures on the site uh

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they're on the Northern section of the

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site there's uh some homes that have not

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been used in a very long time as well as

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some other structures that the nursery

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used um so here we have a snapshot of

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the current conditions on the Northern

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section um you can see that it's bounded

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by gravilla and

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Manor and we can see that there is

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residential uh on the west and the North

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and there is some uh institutional use

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to the

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east with the southern section we see

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similar we see commercial or excuse me

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we see residential uh on the the west

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and the South partially on the East we

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also have a church the church of the

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nazarine uh this is just to give you an

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idea this is the current assessor parcel

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map from the Los Angeles County

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assessors um the highlighted in red are

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the sections that are north of ela

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Boulevard so these are the

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proposed Parcels to be combined into one

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parcel with this

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application um so if this does get

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approved that's what the assessors

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parcel map will eventually be updated to

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reflect uh the the southern site is

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going to be the same thing these Parcels

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will all be combined into

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one we do have a preliminary site plan

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that we are showing here um please

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remember that these site plans are

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tentative they're subject to change uh

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they do have to be reviewed by all

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relevant City departments so we're

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looking at the building and safety

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department the planning department um as

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well as public works and the MPD review

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so they have to go through all of the

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requirements in order to be issued any

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permits for building or for grading for

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anything

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um so on the site we have both North and

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Southern section northern and southern

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sections presented here uh these are all

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going to be ownership for ownership

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units for sale at market value um they

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are town homes so we're not looking at

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apartments or

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condos uh here is a little bit closer of

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the northern section I did want to point

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out this is what's being proposed for

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Access so there's two access points uh

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one on Manor Drive and one on elag gundo

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um this is in order to accommodate fire

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as well as trash uh so

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it's required essentially in order for

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it to be safe and

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accessible uh they are currently

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proposing 60 garage stalls for the

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residents as well as an additional 12

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open stalls on the Northern section

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Alone um right now as far as we can tell

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there if if it were to come under just

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the objective design standards we would

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require 45 roughly stalls so they're

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00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:29,279
well in except ESS of

558
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,360
that uh the southern site is similar uh

559
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,600
there's only one entrance on this um but

560
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,000
if you take a look you can see that it

561
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,080
does loop around and there are turning

562
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,720
points for fire and for trash um there's

563
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840
a few more stalls on the southern

564
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,960
section than there are in the northern

565
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,159
uh there's 66 for residents there's

566
00:25:49,159 --> 00:25:51,840
eight open for guests and residents uh

567
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,679
right now it looks as if there would be

568
00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:56,279
51 required under the objective

569
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:59,120
standards um two important things to

570
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,279
note uh the primary one here is that

571
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,240
129th is completely closed off uh there

572
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,480
will be no vehicular access uh from

573
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,120
129th into the project there will be a

574
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,679
propos there is a proposed retaining

575
00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:14,760
wall that will be put in place there uh

576
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,000
to limit any visual impacts that may

577
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,640
occur um at this time we do want to

578
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,279
recommend that the Planning Commission

579
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:26,320
adopt a notice of exemption MPC

580
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,919
resolution 20245 with the conditions uh

581
00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:34,710
approving subdivision application 2024

582
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,799
002 thank you does the Planning

583
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,279
Commission have any questions for

584
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:44,799
staff I have a question so today we are

585
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:49,039
just voting on taking this from 15 Lots

586
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,440
down to two correct yes that is correct

587
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,480
when the build is going to take place

588
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,399
and permits are going to need to be

589
00:27:00,399 --> 00:27:03,000
issued I'm assuming this is when we get

590
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,799
into the is there going to be turn lanes

591
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:07,320
are there going to be all of these types

592
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,799
of questions that get a little deeper

593
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:11,799
into the minutia than for this right now

594
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:13,919
or is this the time to ask this is the

595
00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:16,480
only time this will this project will be

596
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,200
in front of the commission unless

597
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,840
there's an appeal of some sort that

598
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,480
requires it to come back um this this

599
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,960
building permits have already been

600
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,480
approved no no let me let me add that um

601
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,120
the applicant is already met with the

602
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,360
public works department to discuss turn

603
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:32,799
lanes and that sort of thing and they've

604
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,120
come to an agreement on how that will be

605
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,880
how that will be done so there will be

606
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,679
adjustments on elag Boulevard to

607
00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:41,519
accommodate the properties okay and

608
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:43,559
those are those are reflected in in the

609
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:46,240
propos in the resolution before you um

610
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,039
we incorporated all of the requests from

611
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:50,799
the public works department in order to

612
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:54,440
ensure that I know I know I read it I'm

613
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,200
just asking so other people here can

614
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,200
hear it right I don't know if they read

615
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,559
the staff

616
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:05,080
report Ruby well yeah you go ahead well

617
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,399
now do you raise another question for me

618
00:28:07,399 --> 00:28:09,360
so as you mentioned right now today

619
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,399
we're voting simply to combine these

620
00:28:11,399 --> 00:28:13,559
Parcels but you're also stating that we

621
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,760
won't see this project again before it's

622
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,559
approved to go into build phase so is

623
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,200
there ever will there be a point where

624
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,159
there's a design review that no so so

625
00:28:23,159 --> 00:28:24,919
this project is exempt from design

626
00:28:24,919 --> 00:28:27,000
review and that's based on the housing

627
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,039
overlay section that was added by city

628
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:32,880
council um so the housing overlay is

629
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,760
specifically Exempted but it does have

630
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,559
to meet uh objective design standards so

631
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:40,919
along with that housing overlay Edition

632
00:28:40,919 --> 00:28:43,399
there was another addition of an entire

633
00:28:43,399 --> 00:28:45,080
chapter devoted to those objective

634
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640
design standards uh so those standards

635
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080
will apply to like the project we have

636
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,399
before us within the housing overlay and

637
00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:54,919
also apply to the multitude of different

638
00:28:54,919 --> 00:28:56,880
types of affordable housing applications

639
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,279
that that require objective design

640
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:03,470
standards got

641
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,190
okay I know this is going to seem

642
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,159
repetitive so just to be

643
00:29:11,159 --> 00:29:13,880
clear we're only

644
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,960
voting to have the two partials correct

645
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,519
correct okay and you're also saying that

646
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,120
it's administerial

647
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,840
then the rest of it since because of

648
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,080
Raina and the house in element Am I am I

649
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
reading you correct on that

650
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,679
ministerial meaning that the decision

651
00:29:36,679 --> 00:29:38,960
has no opportunity for discretion

652
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,440
whatsoever it's simply a matter of does

653
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,640
it meet the codes this is um this is the

654
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,440
outcome of the state laws and the need

655
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,440
to accommodate our um Regional Housing

656
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,960
needs um assessment that was part of the

657
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,840
housing element in order to hit the

658
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,760
numbers that the state requires we had

659
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,000
to designate certain properties

660
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,440
properties around the city that were

661
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,080
likely to be developed and were

662
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,320
appropriate for

663
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,679
residential into these um housing

664
00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:08,159
overlay and the housing overlay sets a

665
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:10,440
standard that is 30 units to the acre

666
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,240
this is under that I believe slightly um

667
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,159
but the housing overlay does not specify

668
00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:19,080
that it has to be Town Homes ownership

669
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,279
it could be apartments and it doesn't

670
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:22,640
say that it has to be affordable these

671
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,440
are not affordable these are market rate

672
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,240
units if it were affordable we would

673
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,559
have even less control control over the

674
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:30,600
situation there would be no control on

675
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,399
density no control on height no control

676
00:30:33,399 --> 00:30:37,480
on anything so I think that the question

677
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,240
before you in addition to just making it

678
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,559
two Parcels is you're Paving the way for

679
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:44,640
this only to be a ownership

680
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,360
project now any of

681
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,240
these Town Homes being

682
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,480
developed are they going into the

683
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,039
numbers yeah all all housing that's

684
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,519
built will count in some fashion these

685
00:30:57,519 --> 00:30:58,880
are not accounting is Affordable these

686
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,600
are market rate there is a category for

687
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,880
market rate and since we're still very

688
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,440
early in our excuse me in our housing

689
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,200
cycle these will count after we achieve

690
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,279
our goal in the market rate any any

691
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,639
additional market rate housing just is

692
00:31:12,639 --> 00:31:14,639
not going to count but we wouldn't stop

693
00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:15,679
it from being

694
00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:18,159
developed but this one these will all

695
00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:20,200
count absolutely so they will count but

696
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,960
they won't be affordable right these

697
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,720
your market rate none of them not we

698
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,389
haven't asked for any to be

699
00:31:31,399 --> 00:31:34,320
okay are we able to put conditions

700
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,600
though at all what well it depends what

701
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,440
sort of conditions you're you're looking

702
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,720
any conditions that you make have to

703
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,440
have an access to the application the

704
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,639
application is 15 to2 Lots so if you can

705
00:31:46,639 --> 00:31:48,600
find a way to make that connection to

706
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,120
the 15 to2 lot problem you can have a

707
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,440
condition anything else is not going to

708
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,159
be permitted I'm just actually my

709
00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:58,600
concern is always about parking

710
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,639
yeah and is there a way of just making

711
00:32:02,639 --> 00:32:06,760
sure that there's some type of parking

712
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,840
agreement within this development some

713
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,200
type of parking agreement no because

714
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000
that you can't make the Nexus that that

715
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,320
has anything to do with the number of

716
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Lots now the applicant has taken it upon

717
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,519
themselves to provide Surplus parking

718
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:22,120
considerable amount of surplus parking

719
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,320
and every unit has assigned parking in a

720
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,880
garage in addition to guest parking on

721
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,840
the outside so um they've kind of taken

722
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,240
the the issue off the table to some

723
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,639
extent I I did see that yeah and I did

724
00:32:37,639 --> 00:32:39,279
appreciate all that because I saw the

725
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:41,720
tandem parking I saw the two two-car

726
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,440
garage I saw the Surplus which is

727
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,200
wonderful but I just want to get a

728
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,559
clarification did you just say that it

729
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,200
could be

730
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,760
changed so these these plans are

731
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,039
preliminary yes um you know that that is

732
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,240
the nature of this sort of development

733
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,240
is that these are preliminary and these

734
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,440
were added essentially to assure the

735
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,559
commi the Commissioners as well as the

736
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,799
public that's here today of what exactly

737
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:13,440
the developers are trying to do here um

738
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,720
you know this this was viewed largely as

739
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,200
a very good project compared to other

740
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,320
ideas that were that were seen and that

741
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,679
were proposed um especially as far as

742
00:33:24,679 --> 00:33:30,029
density of of dwelling units goes um

743
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:33,440
yes it may change that that's always

744
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760
that's a possibility in this situation

745
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,360
um again though you come to the issue of

746
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,200
trying to connect any requirements for

747
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,559
parking with the actual project in front

748
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:50,279
of us of the the merge but when you say

749
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,600
change that means that although you say

750
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,000
that there's going to be two car garages

751
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,760
two tandem parking so forth or spaces

752
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,080
are

753
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,080
those can the

754
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,880
developer come back and say no parking

755
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,240
outside I'll just get the 35 guest

756
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,040
parking outside and that's it they have

757
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,079
to meet the objective design standards

758
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,960
which do address parking okay okay so so

759
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,320
all that it may change but no matter

760
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,560
what in order to have a building permit

761
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,359
issued to them to start construction to

762
00:34:22,359 --> 00:34:24,839
get a certificate of occupancy they have

763
00:34:24,839 --> 00:34:27,839
to meet the objective design standards

764
00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:29,879
and what about the vegetation itself

765
00:34:29,879 --> 00:34:31,280
that's part of the objective design

766
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,960
standards it's

767
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,919
Incorporated is there anything stady

768
00:34:34,919 --> 00:34:37,320
maybe like every 10 parking spaces we

769
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,079
can at least have a tree or something or

770
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:41,359
something tied down to just to make sure

771
00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:43,800
that we have something there there I I I

772
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,159
apologize I don't remember what the

773
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,800
design standard for trees and parking

774
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,879
lots is but um they are codified into

775
00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:51,839
the municipal code and the question is

776
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:53,639
does it meet the code requirements or

777
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,119
not and that's the decision we'll make

778
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,640
when we get the

779
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,720
application and again there's not a

780
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,520
clear access to the map at this

781
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,910
point okay no more questions for

782
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,440
me any questions for you

783
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,520
J

784
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,720
okay is the applicant present and do

785
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,390
they wish to

786
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:30,390
speak you

787
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,760
good evening chair Richard members of

788
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,800
the commission my name is Chad Brown um

789
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,200
I'm vice president planning and

790
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,119
development for a private home builder

791
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,400
company named Malia

792
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,750
holes

793
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,510
um where's

794
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,150
myON

795
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,760
thanks let's roll please

796
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960
so Malia holes is as I said is a private

797
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,839
home builder um we have developed homes

798
00:36:04,839 --> 00:36:07,920
in southern LA County Orange County

799
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,280
Northern San Diego County um we are a

800
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,960
for sale Builder we're not an apartment

801
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,960
Construction Company um so everything

802
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,640
that we do is a product that is for sale

803
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,800
to Future homeowners and um I've been uh

804
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,240
working as an infill uh builder for 13

805
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,119
years from aah homes prior to that I

806
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:29,680
work for the City of Laguna Nigel and

807
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,280
the County of Orange in the planning

808
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,920
departments um so I'm very familiar with

809
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,720
infill and compatibility and some of the

810
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,599
challenges that come along with infill

811
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:40,640
developments um and the project that we

812
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,920
have before us tonight is is is

813
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,359
something that is a result of um the

814
00:36:48,359 --> 00:36:51,760
housing overlay and the state housing

815
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,240
element and uh city of city of

816
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,680
Hawthorne's General plan uh housing

817
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,359
element updates so forth that have come

818
00:36:58,359 --> 00:37:01,440
on but again we're looking at it from a

819
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,000
standpoint for Quality development and

820
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,560
quality from a quality Builder um the

821
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,359
slide in front of you are two recent

822
00:37:08,359 --> 00:37:09,680
projects that Malia Holmes has

823
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,079
constructed one is in the city of

824
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:13,839
Gardina uh the top two photos are those

825
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:15,920
of the city of Gardina or Moneta Point

826
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,800
project that was 84 homes um on an old

827
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
ironically enough a nursery site uh that

828
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,720
existed in Gardina um the bottom the

829
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,760
bottom two photos before you are uh what

830
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
the city of Anaheim again three-story

831
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,400
row Town Homes home ownership um you see

832
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,839
uh kind of the front entry the Poo as

833
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:39,560
well as the landscape and the right

834
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000
photo is that of something similar to

835
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,880
what to what we're proposing here for

836
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,440
Recreation Area some shelter some play

837
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,920
space and some outdoor tables and a

838
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,480
barbecue uh tabletop um for the

839
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,079
residents on each site to be able to

840
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:55,000
enjoy there's one proposed on both of

841
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,680
those and I'll I'll get into that a

842
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:02,630
little bit further

843
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,040
as we talked about uh and and staff

844
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,079
presented this is the hawthor nursery

845
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,720
site uh just a Stones Throw here from

846
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,839
City Hall and is it it is um one of the

847
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:15,240
many sites throughout the city that have

848
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,440
been selected with the housing overlay

849
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,160
um that has D carries a density range of

850
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,200
20 to 30 units per acre um so this site

851
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,839
could potentially have up to 94 units on

852
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:30,319
it combined it's about 3 .4 3.3 Acres um

853
00:38:30,319 --> 00:38:33,280
we're proposing a total of 68 homes on

854
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,480
these um again it's because the homes

855
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,079
when they are for sale they need to be

856
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,200
marketable they need to be attractive

857
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,280
and they need to be have a want for

858
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,079
people to come and invest their their

859
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:45,920
their monies and their future with them

860
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,960
and we recognize that and we therefore

861
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,040
they range in size I'll cover that a

862
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,319
little bit further but they range in

863
00:38:53,319 --> 00:38:56,400
size of something from one two three and

864
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,040
four bedroom homes um two car garages

865
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,440
two car garages with Tandem and single

866
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,960
car garages but every home has a has an

867
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,160
attached garage with it with direct

868
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,000
access into the house into their

869
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,119
personal house um the nursery site was

870
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,040
selected um by the city as a part of it

871
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,400
and we uh were contacted um they reached

872
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,319
out various Brokers reached out to Malia

873
00:39:22,319 --> 00:39:24,880
homes see if we're interested in it um

874
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,160
and uh we put some information and uh

875
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,400
obviously a plan together uh make sure

876
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,560
it works economically that it chased the

877
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,880
level of of uh of quality um and uh and

878
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,359
we're we decided to move forward with

879
00:39:39,359 --> 00:39:43,400
it um again this is a result of the uh

880
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,520
General plan it's a result of the

881
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,440
housing overlay and it's a result of the

882
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,640
state as uh as Mr mlan has mentioned um

883
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,000
but it also follows the adopted mixed

884
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,880
use and multif family govern guidelines

885
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,720
the objective guidelines that the city

886
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,520
has adopted to make sure it has ample

887
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,920
parking to make sure that is set back

888
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,760
proper distances to make sure that it's

889
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,280
designed properly um we have uh we have

890
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,119
included all of that with

891
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:13,800
it

892
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,599
so as been as has been indicated U the

893
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:19,960
what's before you tonight is the

894
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
subdivision of this property the

895
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,599
subdivision is required in order for the

896
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,319
project to be for sale um we have to go

897
00:40:27,319 --> 00:40:28,760
go through the department of real estate

898
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,000
State of California process condo maps

899
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,520
and they need to be related to a map

900
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,680
process if if we were to build rental

901
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040
units or build apartments or proposed to

902
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,520
build apartments on this property we

903
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,599
wouldn't be here tonight the fact that

904
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:46,119
this is for sale and we're asking for

905
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,040
the subdivision map to be approved is

906
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,280
that this is a for sale project and not

907
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,000
something that is for

908
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,440
rent the site itself as I said is a

909
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,200
little over three acres and could

910
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,160
potentially have up to 94 units on it

911
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:07,400
based upon the housing overlay density

912
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,240
allowances the map is providing for

913
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:13,400
easement dedications to increase the

914
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,040
parkway widths around all perimeter of

915
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,880
the site meaning the sidewalks will be

916
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,839
improved with a six- foot sidewalk and a

917
00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:22,240
4-ft landscape planter outside of the

918
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,680
perimeter walls um with the exception of

919
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,640
129th Street where that street and

920
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,839
Parkway are currently fairly narrow and

921
00:41:30,839 --> 00:41:33,960
the current Parkway is 7 ft That

922
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,760
Sidewalk will be improved to a full

923
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,760
width 7 foot sidewalk with planter Wells

924
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,400
for trees to be planted every 50 feet on

925
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,640
Center um up at the elevation of 129th

926
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,760
Street along what would be the southerly

927
00:41:47,760 --> 00:42:06,230
boundary of this of this project

928
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:07,839
and again as staff has pointed out

929
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:09,560
although not subject of the

930
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,319
discretionary action before you tonight

931
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:14,000
um I thought that it would be a good

932
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,079
idea to present to the Planning

933
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,960
Commission a little bit greater detail

934
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,240
of the project that we are proposing

935
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,640
with the pro with the subdivision map

936
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,160
and what it would look like how it will

937
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,400
live and some of the amenities and the

938
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,880
thought that has gone behind it um I

939
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,119
would like to add that I'm a little bit

940
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:34,040
surprised by the turnout of the

941
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,750
residents that are behind

942
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,599
me back when we initially started

943
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:43,960
looking at this property in January

944
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,680
February earlier this year um part of

945
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,280
our due diligence research is I send out

946
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,119
letters to all property owners that are

947
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:56,040
directly and this may be a little bit of

948
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,200
the confusion side the property owners

949
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,400
that are directly adjacent to or

950
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,440
directly across from the project area to

951
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,160
solicit input to solicit comments to

952
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,119
provide for them some basic information

953
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:12,160
about what we are proposing to do um and

954
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,280
that all goes in line with me talking

955
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000
with the city staff and and and

956
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,440
understanding what the regulations are

957
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,960
but I reached out and I'll go into this

958
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,760
in Greater detail if we want to discuss

959
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,319
about the Outreach that was done on this

960
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:29,880
but it started in February um I had uh

961
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,559
multiple calls and discussions with many

962
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:35,359
neighbors mostly generated from manner

963
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:37,720
Drive uh directly to the west of the

964
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,000
site of lot one of the proposed

965
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,160
subdivision um lot two I only heard from

966
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,800
one resident um on the north side of 129

967
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,880
or the South side of 129th Street above

968
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,720
the site um so I'm I'm surprised by I I

969
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:54,160
been shared with some of the emails and

970
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,359
information and so forth uh regarding

971
00:43:56,359 --> 00:43:57,720
some of the concern

972
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,640
and I hope that this will help alleviate

973
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,280
some of those concerns with the uh with

974
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,280
me showing you the plans as they go

975
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,760
through so what you're looking at is a

976
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,800
conceptual landscape plan uh for the

977
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,960
project um it has interior PES as you

978
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,720
can see uh many places between buildings

979
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,720
it's a little bit small but tucked away

980
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:22,000
on the right side of your screen um the

981
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,359
bottom right hand corner is an area

982
00:44:24,359 --> 00:44:26,440
dedicated to an outdoor Turf play area

983
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,000
for small children that's where the uh

984
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,359
at trellis uh shade structure would be

985
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:33,079
provided with some outdoor barbecue

986
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:36,440
areas and some tables um bike racks and

987
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,440
so forth as well um the South site has

988
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,520
much of the same it's more of a central

989
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,599
location on the south site right in the

990
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,040
center of the project is where you see

991
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,040
the turf green um there's sitting

992
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,800
benches there's landscaping and again

993
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,760
it's a shade structure with a barbecue

994
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:58,190
outdoor dining area for future residents

995
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,200
one of the things I want to point to as

996
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,160
a result of my meetings with the

997
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,720
homeowners on Manor Drive is I'm going

998
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:06,960
to back up for a second because you're

999
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,359
going to see an arrow pop up on the

1000
00:45:08,359 --> 00:45:11,160
North on the west Edge on the west Edge

1001
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,359
the landscaping that's being placed or

1002
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:16,319
proposed along this Edge is proposed to

1003
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:18,440
be well it is on this plan is an

1004
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,599
evergreen type of tree more of a

1005
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:23,280
vertical type of tree um that would Pro

1006
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,960
and we've spaced them much tighter

1007
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,040
together than other places around the

1008
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,800
site and that again is for the Privacy

1009
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,319
uh and protection of privacy to the

1010
00:45:31,319 --> 00:45:33,480
existing homeowners along Manor Drive

1011
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,280
and that occurs both on the west Edge

1012
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,400
where the arrow is shown as well as here

1013
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,800
on the North edge of it um where we've

1014
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,160
taken that that proposed landscape and

1015
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,079
condensed it down so it creates a uh a

1016
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,960
much nicer a denser screen so to speak

1017
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,119
for uh for privacy the homes that are

1018
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:54,400
proposed are three story in height um

1019
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,359
they're about 38 ft total height to the

1020
00:45:56,359 --> 00:45:59,480
pitched roof it's not a flat roof um but

1021
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,960
they are uh three-story in height so

1022
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,520
there would be bedrooms up on the third

1023
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,040
level there are no outdoor decks there

1024
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,000
are no outdoor roof decks on the third

1025
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,839
level nor the roof but there are decks

1026
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:14,280
um from the primary living area off the

1027
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,000
living room at the second story so these

1028
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,520
trees um while they'll go in rather

1029
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,359
young um we would be willing to put them

1030
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:25,440
in at A Min at a at a 12ft minimum

1031
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,480
height upon installation um that's

1032
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,960
something I discussed with the neighbors

1033
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,359
in my meetings with them uh earlier or I

1034
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:33,880
guess early last

1035
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,880
month the site plans for each of the

1036
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,640
sites uh staff showed you a portion of

1037
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,319
these um this is the layout the

1038
00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:44,760
circulation that's proposed um I wanted

1039
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,480
to highlight there's 35 units on on the

1040
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,119
uh South site and there's with parking

1041
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,760
the total of I'm sorry 38 units on the

1042
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,920
south site with total of 74 parking

1043
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
stalls there's 35 units on the North

1044
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,880
portion of the site with uh with the

1045
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,680
resulting 72 parking stalls and again

1046
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,119
this is each home has an enclosed

1047
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,040
two-car garage the one-bedroom unit has

1048
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,720
a onecar enclosed garage but there are

1049
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:15,240
also as noted in the staff report or on

1050
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,440
the plans um open parking stalls

1051
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,640
dedicated to guest parking and so forth

1052
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,319
and I want to get to your question and

1053
00:47:21,319 --> 00:47:23,160
and respond to that later on about

1054
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,079
parking and ccnr as and homeowners

1055
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,520
association and so forth

1056
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,520
um there are four different floor plans

1057
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,280
and those four floor plans that are

1058
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,760
proposed are configured in si six

1059
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,599
different buildings so it's not a

1060
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:38,880
repetitive uh building over and over and

1061
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,800
over again there is some unique uh

1062
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,880
characteristics to each of the buildings

1063
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,440
with articulation and design for each of

1064
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,400
them um both of these Lots uh

1065
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,720
individually and collectively exceed the

1066
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,319
minimum number of parking spaces that

1067
00:47:55,319 --> 00:47:58,680
are required by your code um within the

1068
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,440
city and the floor plans range anywhere

1069
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,720
between 986 Square ft up to,

1070
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:08,640
19922 square feet for the four-bedroom

1071
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,880
unit elevation wise uh I'm showing you a

1072
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,160
a proposed material and uh color board

1073
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,000
um illustrating the proposed building

1074
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,200
types this is shown building type

1075
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:26,240
a um that uh with the colors that are

1076
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,559
intended to be cohesive create breakup

1077
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:31,200
of mass um and complimentary color

1078
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,559
palette um with trim contrasts uh to add

1079
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:38,280
depth and so forth to the

1080
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,079
design the next this slide and the next

1081
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:44,200
one are this is a building type c um

1082
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,800
it's all cohesive they're not

1083
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,559
individually unique but they are all

1084
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:49,960
different um types A through F of the

1085
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,960
buildings they just have different unit

1086
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,799
uh configurations uh making them each

1087
00:48:55,799 --> 00:48:57,839
building labeled as they

1088
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:02,870
are and this is building type

1089
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,400
f the next slide is showing you

1090
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,480
basically a street scene from elsag

1091
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,400
gundo Boulevard um the top photo is that

1092
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,960
looking West the bottom photo is that

1093
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,680
looking East and we've had uh our

1094
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,720
architect provide some perspectives of

1095
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,079
what that may look like in the future if

1096
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,799
the project uh ultimately goes forward

1097
00:49:24,799 --> 00:49:27,160
as it's currently designed

1098
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,079
and this is elsag gundo Boulevard

1099
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,200
looking towards the West so gravelia

1100
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,520
Street if I pronounce that properly and

1101
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,079
I hope so um is there shown on the right

1102
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,200
side uh that's the intersection of

1103
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,000
gravelia and elsag gundo Boulevard and

1104
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,079
uh the fire station would be directly to

1105
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:48,920
the right side of the photo perspective

1106
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,880
location this is the proposed project

1107
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,559
looking East um along elaga Boulevard

1108
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:59,599
the street to the left is uh that of

1109
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:03,670
Manor drive on the left hand

1110
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,480
side different per different perspective

1111
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,440
this is the gravelia street Frontage and

1112
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,319
I always try to screen back landscaping

1113
00:50:11,319 --> 00:50:12,599
or have the architect screen back

1114
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:14,400
Landscaping in this so that I'm not

1115
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,359
hiding the building um it's not

1116
00:50:16,359 --> 00:50:19,359
something that if you if I can show all

1117
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:20,920
the greencape and so forth and you won't

1118
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,680
see what's behind

1119
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,839
it same thing for this is at the Manor

1120
00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:28,000
or looking towards The Manor

1121
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,990
intersection uh from uh from elun to

1122
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Boulevard again uh I thank you for your

1123
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,799
time I do ask for your approval of this

1124
00:50:38,799 --> 00:50:41,240
project tonight um of the vest intended

1125
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:44,119
of track map it has the result of a

1126
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,280
landing in a for sale project as opposed

1127
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,880
to Apartments if we were to go away

1128
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,440
there's a potentially other buyers that

1129
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,400
would come in that would look to do

1130
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,599
Apartments here and they have the

1131
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:56,640
ability to do that by right um we're

1132
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,400
we're wanting to and asking for your

1133
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,680
approval to move forward with the

1134
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,440
subdivision map so that we can develop

1135
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,319
and invest into the City and create

1136
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:05,960
pride of ownership in the city like many

1137
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,640
of these homeowners here have me and

1138
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,520
their concerns is a result of them

1139
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,160
having pride in where they live and

1140
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,000
having invested economic interest in it

1141
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,680
um we are trying to create more

1142
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,880
opportunity for more residents of hathor

1143
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,559
to have that same ownership

1144
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,400
capabilities um we have read the

1145
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,160
condition of approval and I'm uh and we

1146
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,880
are accepting of them and again I ask

1147
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,559
for your affirmative approval tonight

1148
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:40,400
thank you you thank you go ahead just G

1149
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,520
to claric yeah questions of a go go for

1150
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,680
I just want to you said four you I'm not

1151
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,720
sure if this was an accident or not or a

1152
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,839
mistake you said four bedrooms I thought

1153
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:51,960
it was only up to three bedrooms no

1154
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,359
there's a there's a four bedom unit

1155
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:55,119
there four bom there's one two three and

1156
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,720
four bedroom units it's lower in there's

1157
00:51:57,720 --> 00:51:59,760
less of the four bedrooms but yes there

1158
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,839
is a four-bedroom unit the 1922 foot is

1159
00:52:02,839 --> 00:52:04,960
a four-bedroom unit yes okay I was

1160
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,799
unaware of that go ahead got

1161
00:52:08,799 --> 00:52:12,200
umle questions just um as we've

1162
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,119
mentioned as far as these projects go

1163
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:15,599
you have these uh these drawings that

1164
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,559
you presented to us here today um in

1165
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:20,040
your past projects have you seen much

1166
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,960
variation between what you present

1167
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,400
versus what ends up being

1168
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,359
constructed the answer to that is no

1169
00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:29,200
because as what we what we do is we've

1170
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,240
based all of our research all of our due

1171
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,799
diligence and all of our designs based

1172
00:52:33,799 --> 00:52:35,480
upon work that gets us to this point

1173
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,079
today for us to go back and change would

1174
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:41,440
be a a drastic move um and something

1175
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,640
that we quite frankly don't want to do

1176
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,119
we want to build the project that we've

1177
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,520
designed and and are wanting to stand

1178
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,359
behind and put before you tonight got

1179
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:51,040
you apprciate

1180
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,359
it um from breaking ground till end of

1181
00:52:54,359 --> 00:52:56,760
project is it going in phases like how

1182
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,200
long do you think total it would be

1183
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,559
under construction so the phasing of the

1184
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:04,079
project is somewhat tough to tough to

1185
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,160
describe because it is Market dependent

1186
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,440
um but essentially from the time we bake

1187
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,280
break ground to the time that we might

1188
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,280
start the first vertical construction of

1189
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,520
model homes that would be viewed for

1190
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,720
sales is probably six months of ground

1191
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,040
grading infrastructure Improvement sewer

1192
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,440
water storm drain um and things of that

1193
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,640
nature and then we would start the

1194
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,640
vertical construction for the model

1195
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,839
homes um and each home each home phase

1196
00:53:32,839 --> 00:53:36,319
takes approximately four to seven months

1197
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:37,440
to

1198
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,119
complete and if sales go well we would

1199
00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:42,720
overlap in some areas uh so that time

1200
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,280
frame could be

1201
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,559
condensed but from initial construction

1202
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:50,520
beginning to buildout would be probably

1203
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,359
approximately two years the number of

1204
00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:55,559
phases that we have placed in this is a

1205
00:53:55,559 --> 00:53:58,000
model home phase phase which is on the

1206
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,799
south site and four construction phases

1207
00:54:01,799 --> 00:54:02,559
thank

1208
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:05,119
you sorry I did have a couple one more

1209
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:06,799
questions where I know you mentioned you

1210
00:54:06,799 --> 00:54:08,359
were going to go into a bit more detail

1211
00:54:08,359 --> 00:54:10,240
about the notification of the residents

1212
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,319
yeah so um I notic you mentioned you

1213
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:14,760
said you started doing reach out to the

1214
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,760
residents in about February so I was

1215
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,559
just wondering when you when did you

1216
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:21,160
meet with this city that you got the

1217
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,440
idea that hey this was something we're

1218
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,559
going to move forward with I want to

1219
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:26,480
know the diff like how long it was

1220
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,319
between you spoke with the city and said

1221
00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:29,119
hey this is something we're going to

1222
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:30,799
move forward with before you actually

1223
00:54:30,799 --> 00:54:32,240
reached out to the first set of

1224
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,520
residents oh we reached we reached out

1225
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,119
to the residents prior to um prior to

1226
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,400
any formal application being submitted

1227
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,359
with the city okay and and if I can show

1228
00:54:44,359 --> 00:54:45,720
you

1229
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:50,960
me so in in January and basically I

1230
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,559
think it was like January 20th 27th or

1231
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:55,599
so is it for this year or is it yes this

1232
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:58,640
year okay I just 2024 okay um is what

1233
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,359
you're seeing on your screen I know you

1234
00:55:00,359 --> 00:55:02,079
can't read it but I've seen them many of

1235
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:04,880
them have them in their hands tonight um

1236
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,160
is a letter introduction letter of Malia

1237
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,079
Holmes introducing us our project and a

1238
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:13,119
basic layout much and much hasn't

1239
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,079
changed from January where we initially

1240
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,440
started a due diligence in a layout it's

1241
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,480
gotten more detailed if anything um but

1242
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,799
so the initial letter had a description

1243
00:55:23,799 --> 00:55:25,359
of the project the number of homes that

1244
00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:27,039
were being proposed that would they were

1245
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:29,720
for sale please reach out and contact me

1246
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,039
if you have any comments or concerns um

1247
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:36,000
the mailing list that I went out to

1248
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,240
is the sites are shown in yellow um all

1249
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,000
the properties where you see the little

1250
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,200
red dots were the property owners were

1251
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,359
my letter went to it doesn't have

1252
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:49,319
anything to do with the 300 foot radius

1253
00:55:49,319 --> 00:55:52,160
mailing list that is uh required by law

1254
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,599
for public notice and public

1255
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:58,599
hearings so as a result of my letter I

1256
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:00,880
received phone calls from approximately

1257
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,559
seven to eight people um only one person

1258
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:06,520
on 129th his name was Richard Dragon is

1259
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,079
is what I took down um and I believe he

1260
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:11,000
lived almost directly Center behind it

1261
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,119
on 129th um most of the residents that I

1262
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:17,400
heard from were those located on Manor

1263
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,039
Drive and so in uh what you see that's

1264
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,280
highlighted yellow I'm giving you raw

1265
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,720
data right this is right off my computer

1266
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:28,200
um so I had a meeting we scheduled a

1267
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,200
meeting and uh met with the uh residents

1268
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,000
and the they organized their meeting for

1269
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,960
me were kind enough to invite me into

1270
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,720
their house um Mr oros baked cookies and

1271
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,039
goods and we we spent about two hours

1272
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:45,359
together um reviewing the proposed plans

1273
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:47,440
um I know that they had some concerns

1274
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,720
I've I hope that I've Al alleviated

1275
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:51,880
those with parking and with the

1276
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,760
landscape proposals to protect their

1277
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,240
views um but what you see highlighted in

1278
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,839
yellow are those that had sent this

1279
00:56:57,839 --> 00:56:59,640
letter to that were also in attendance

1280
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,119
at that meeting okay on June 11th oh got

1281
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:04,160
gotcha

1282
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,520
okay I can provide to you in the future

1283
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,520
uh this is the this is a

1284
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,799
chronological uh basically synopsis of

1285
00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:15,680
all the contact that I had um that's

1286
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,400
there on the left and the comment uh the

1287
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,160
the June 11th 2024 on the right hand

1288
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,559
side is basically a summary of the

1289
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:26,599
takeaway from that meeting that we had

1290
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:28,920
in June and then there's the sign-in

1291
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,640
sheet that's shown at the very bottom

1292
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,400
where the where the neighbors were uh in

1293
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,119
case we wanted to contact each other and

1294
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:36,720
so forth and I did I sent out a thank

1295
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,319
you letter following that um then it

1296
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:41,920
gets into other stuff in case other

1297
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,240
questions but I have I wanted to have

1298
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,599
this for reference appreciate it as well

1299
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,760
thank you um commissioner Cohen you also

1300
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,240
had a question that you'd mentioned

1301
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,119
about the parking the garages if there

1302
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:55,160
if it's well if we could encourage some

1303
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,480
type of parking agreement you also

1304
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,720
mentioned it was going to be an HOA yes

1305
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,760
is there going to be a well let's start

1306
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,680
with the parking agreement um would you

1307
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,359
be up for that to have a parking

1308
00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:10,160
agreement within that Association just

1309
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,200
to make sure there's no conflict

1310
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,200
between uh homeowners and so forth

1311
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,640
because it can be a problem later is

1312
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,839
what we have as a standard and I would

1313
00:58:20,839 --> 00:58:24,920
accept as would accept as a condition is

1314
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,640
that the cc&rs

1315
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,880
that would be created for this project

1316
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,760
every homeowners association is

1317
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,359
basically bound and operated by Covenant

1318
00:58:34,359 --> 00:58:35,839
conditions and restrictions

1319
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:38,960
cc&rs and that's part of the Dr process

1320
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,760
of of creating town homes and selling

1321
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,240
them um individually the ccrs our

1322
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,440
standard ccnr that's why I wanted to

1323
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,880
bring it up our standard ccrs have

1324
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,079
requirements in them that stipulates

1325
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:55,480
that garages if it's a two-car garage

1326
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,480
they're required Park two cars in it

1327
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,839
that can't be blocked for storage or

1328
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:01,599
other things if it's a onecar garage

1329
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:03,559
that one car space needs to be provided

1330
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:06,240
for a vehicle inside of it not not for

1331
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,680
boxes and storage and everything else so

1332
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,760
I mean it is a standard and I'm I'm

1333
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,760
happy to if you I stipulate that uh that

1334
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,960
our cc&rs will require that garages be

1335
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,880
used for parking of vehicles and not for

1336
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,240
storage okay well my concern actually

1337
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,319
really is besides the spaces in side the

1338
00:59:27,319 --> 00:59:29,960
garage I'm really concerned about the

1339
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,400
outside parking because it's always a

1340
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,160
problem um if there can be in your ccnr

1341
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,400
not the bylaws not into the rules either

1342
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,760
because rules can always be changed but

1343
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:43,920
I'm actually talking about the actual

1344
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,079
ccnr itself if you can maybe put some

1345
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:54,870
I'm so sorry oh my God after we told

1346
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,319
everybody um

1347
00:59:57,319 --> 00:59:59,000
it was actually on silent I don't know

1348
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,720
what

1349
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,960
happened

1350
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,559
um so anyways if it can be in the cc&rs

1351
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:07,039
it'll be greatly appreciated something

1352
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:09,720
to the fact of the parking spaces that

1353
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,720
are outside they could maybe get maybe a

1354
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,760
2 point what is what's the calculation

1355
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,720
is it 1.75 or something like that the

1356
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,319
calculation for parking spaces something

1357
01:00:21,319 --> 01:00:26,280
basically saying every homeowner can get

1358
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,960
two

1359
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,079
well it's going to be kind of difficult

1360
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,880
here because you said that some of the

1361
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,039
homes only have

1362
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:38,200
one car garage correct the one-bedroom

1363
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,640
units have a one car garage correct

1364
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,200
okay if it can stipulate something to

1365
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,950
the fact of

1366
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,200
2 s or something like that or 2.3

1367
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,839
parking

1368
01:00:53,839 --> 01:00:57,440
spaces belongs to each home

1369
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,720
owner and

1370
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,720
13 or whatever to also the one and the

1371
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,599
reason why I'm saying that is because if

1372
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:08,720
there is an

1373
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,440
overflow every resident can actually get

1374
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,760
a parking space outside and I'm actually

1375
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,280
using points and I know it's like why

1376
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,799
don't you just round it up I get that

1377
01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:20,599
but it's better if you just do a point

1378
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:23,760
where everybody or every resident has a

1379
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,760
right to park outside

1380
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,720
they do an extra parking space if they

1381
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,880
need it after using the two-part garage

1382
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,599
I'm just kind of recommending

1383
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,760
that if that makes any sense that's well

1384
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,400
that's the purpose of the open parking

1385
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,240
stalls that are provided on each of the

1386
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,480
sites as it is okay well because I it's

1387
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,359
exceeding it's exceeding the city's

1388
01:01:44,359 --> 01:01:47,599
standard requirements of parking by

1389
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:49,520
providing the open parking spaces

1390
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,960
outside of the garage correct I know

1391
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,079
that I I I do understand that but I'm

1392
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:56,799
just saying it'll just help at viate

1393
01:01:56,799 --> 01:01:59,520
resident against resident and then them

1394
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,240
putting rules out and then it's going to

1395
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,039
create chaos within the community for

1396
01:02:04,039 --> 01:02:07,400
parking trust me I know that for a fact

1397
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,200
uh when it goes with HOAs if that makes

1398
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,880
any sense am I making sense here yes but

1399
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,640
I think you're you're deviating pretty

1400
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,160
far from a subdivision map well I know I

1401
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,520
was just asking if he I'm just giving a

1402
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,920
recommendation an encouragement you

1403
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,640
don't have to do that but it just

1404
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,400
alleviates a lot of problems all of the

1405
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,079
ccnr that are adopted throughout the

1406
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:31,200
city are reviewed by the city um

1407
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,400
attorney's office and we always make

1408
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,279
sure that you know the parking is

1409
01:02:36,279 --> 01:02:38,160
addressed in there and that in this case

1410
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,000
they have Surplus parking per def code

1411
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,960
definition so the issues that you're

1412
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,200
raising may not even be happening here

1413
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,119
other very rare that anybody builds a

1414
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:51,480
development with Surplus parking and I

1415
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,039
think in those other examples that

1416
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:55,359
you're familiar with the reason there's

1417
01:02:55,359 --> 01:02:57,039
disputes between the residents is

1418
01:02:57,039 --> 01:02:59,279
because there's not as much parking as

1419
01:02:59,279 --> 01:03:01,920
this one has can I can I ask you a

1420
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,359
question yeah this is this development

1421
01:03:04,359 --> 01:03:06,520
sounds very similar to me like 360 and

1422
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,680
fusion that are in Hawthorne could you

1423
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,240
tell me the comparisons to this project

1424
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,079
versus those of of kind of what just so

1425
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:16,119
we can get an idea because I I live

1426
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:17,920
basically on either side of those yeah

1427
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,880
um I'm not as familiar with Fusion 360

1428
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,720
was developed with a mix of uh apartment

1429
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,920
flats that are condos but they they like

1430
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,400
you know multiple floors and each unit

1431
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,839
has is just on one floor and town homes

1432
01:03:32,839 --> 01:03:34,400
this one is all town homes so they're a

1433
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,520
little bit different in that regard um I

1434
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,440
cannot speak to the parking at this time

1435
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:39,559
because I would have to go back and

1436
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:42,720
review the old but I I don't recall them

1437
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,039
providing excess parking for for those

1438
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,440
projects I think they were built to code

1439
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,240
okay thank

1440
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,480
you okay were there any other questions

1441
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,839
of the applicant

1442
01:03:55,839 --> 01:03:59,640
oh no yeah no none from the not for the

1443
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,400
Commissioners well on the there's

1444
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,680
there's only gonna be one entrance on

1445
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,160
that other side correct you said there's

1446
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,839
only going to be one entrance to the

1447
01:04:06,839 --> 01:04:09,720
South side which is lot two of the map

1448
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,480
yes there's there's a single entrance

1449
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,720
off of uh elsag Gunda

1450
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,039
Boulevard and that was by

1451
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:20,880
Design okay well one I just I mean I

1452
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,640
know we haven't made a decision yet but

1453
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,920
I do thank

1454
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,319
you um for

1455
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:28,680
actually it seems like this project was

1456
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,599
really thought out instead of you

1457
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:33,359
building 94 homes you actually

1458
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:38,000
considered to do 60 something eight

1459
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,760
uh 68 homes correct which is

1460
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,520
appreciated

1461
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,319
um and it's also for sale not for rent

1462
01:04:47,319 --> 01:04:49,000
which is also a

1463
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,680
plus

1464
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,880
um I would hold all your thank yous

1465
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,599
because we got a lot of well no no no no

1466
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:57,599
I'm just saying that there are some pros

1467
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:00,720
here that he could have had it I

1468
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,640
understand Apartments so basically you

1469
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,599
know we want to put people also in homes

1470
01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:06,400
as well that's something that we want to

1471
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,200
also encourage I understand I'm just

1472
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,760
saying we still have the public that's

1473
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,599
going to make their comments before you

1474
01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:14,920
yeah okay but

1475
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,559
um that is it for

1476
01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:21,760
me thank you very much okay so is there

1477
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,839
anyone else who wishes to address the

1478
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,319
commission on this issue this would be

1479
01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:28,839
everyone's time yeah please make a line

1480
01:05:28,839 --> 01:05:32,390
in the

1481
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:37,039
midle hello uh my name is Fred ovadia I

1482
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:39,880
own the property on

1483
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,559
4555 West 29th Street which is on the

1484
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:48,160
boundary of uh one of the uh the

1485
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,400
southern part of of of the lot that's

1486
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,640
going to be from uh 15 lots to

1487
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:58,000
two um so I I have some concerns one I

1488
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,319
never received a letter that said by uh

1489
01:06:03,319 --> 01:06:06,599
uh millia homes so I never received that

1490
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:09,799
letter and I'm on the boundary uh I

1491
01:06:09,799 --> 01:06:12,119
don't live at the property I rent that

1492
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:13,880
property out so maybe that's why I

1493
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:19,000
didn't get the L okay um I'm concerned

1494
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,799
since I'm at the boundary of the

1495
01:06:21,799 --> 01:06:26,079
height uh so I mean he's he's doing

1496
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:29,200
uh three stories high so that's going to

1497
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,160
block uh Sunshine that's coming in from

1498
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,480
the

1499
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,559
East um that's another concern and then

1500
01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:40,599
the traffic you know I didn't see any

1501
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:43,559
traffic light on elsag gundo Boulevard

1502
01:06:43,559 --> 01:06:48,440
that's a very you know uh heavy used uh

1503
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,400
Boulevard there's a lot of traffic

1504
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,520
that's going on and if people wants to

1505
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,799
make for example a turn

1506
01:06:55,799 --> 01:06:58,799
uh from like a left turn going into the

1507
01:06:58,799 --> 01:07:03,160
South Side that's uh that's you know

1508
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,960
it's very dangerous so that's another

1509
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,400
thing

1510
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,119
um and

1511
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:13,680
then the parking space okay you know

1512
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,760
let's consider a holiday okay or a

1513
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:21,160
weekend people coming in and visiting uh

1514
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,279
families in that uh

1515
01:07:23,279 --> 01:07:25,039
neighborhood there is not going to be

1516
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:28,000
enough paring spaces for

1517
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,200
them

1518
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,920
so um those are the three areas that I

1519
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,720
have concerns

1520
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,000
on and it would have been very nice you

1521
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,200
know I mean he he said only one person

1522
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,480
on the southern side of the lot uh

1523
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,839
basically you know called him well maybe

1524
01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:50,359
because you know I didn't get the letter

1525
01:07:50,359 --> 01:07:52,720
and I'm sure other people didn't get the

1526
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:53,799
letter as

1527
01:07:53,799 --> 01:07:55,960
well thank you before

1528
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,039
U what was your name one more time red

1529
01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:02,960
ovadia oov V A A gotcha thank you we we

1530
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,119
have your email thank you Fred thank you

1531
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:09,670
we thank you so much appreciate

1532
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,920
it I have three minutes thank you hello

1533
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:17,199
my name is isala I live at 4490 West 129

1534
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:19,000
Street my first issue is this letter

1535
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,960
that we got we literally got it last

1536
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,839
Monday and it's postmarked for the 22nd

1537
01:08:24,839 --> 01:08:26,880
and on here it says any comments had to

1538
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,239
be submitted on June 5th of

1539
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,560
2023 even if it was June 5th of 2024

1540
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,000
this thing is postmarked on the 22nd to

1541
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,359
be here on on this date right so that

1542
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:42,880
that's my issue I mean you you want me

1543
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,920
to trust a public study that's done when

1544
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,920
this doesn't even have the right correct

1545
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,239
dates on it it's kind of unacceptable

1546
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:51,600
the second thing is they want to widen

1547
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,520
the the street or the sidewalk on 129th

1548
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,560
if you've ever been on 129th that's a

1549
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,080
very narrow Street I've already lost two

1550
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,400
side mirrors on my truck because of

1551
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,159
people using 129th when traffic is

1552
01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,640
really bad on elaga Boulevard everybody

1553
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,400
use our street and I'm telling you

1554
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,799
they're going 60 70 miles an hour and

1555
01:09:10,799 --> 01:09:12,319
I'm not joking you can ask some of my

1556
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:13,880
neighbors that's how fast people are

1557
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,199
going so by narrowing the street I don't

1558
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:18,799
even let my kids play in my front yard

1559
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:20,560
because it's so dangerous I have to back

1560
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,799
into my driveway because I don't want to

1561
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:24,480
pull out because I've already gotone in

1562
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:26,880
one accident also a construction site of

1563
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,159
this size it's going to be ridiculous on

1564
01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:31,199
the amount of traffic on Elo Boulevard

1565
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,359
they're going to be using our street and

1566
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:35,520
trust me I'm a reasonable person I

1567
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,520
bought my house 13 years ago I used to

1568
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,040
be able to look out my uh kitchen window

1569
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,600
and see the mountains now all I see is

1570
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,440
the neon lights of a Courtyard Marriott

1571
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:47,400
which I'm okay with right that it we

1572
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,480
need uh more buildings in this city but

1573
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,120
I've tried calling somebody to talk to

1574
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,080
this about this letter and I never got a

1575
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,840
call back I left a message

1576
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,320
so I just think a project of this size

1577
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,679
in a residential area such as ours

1578
01:10:00,679 --> 01:10:02,640
street it's just going to be a nightmare

1579
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,040
it's going to be a nightmare for two

1580
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,679
years for us with noise of construction

1581
01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:10,360
everything that's going on with traffic

1582
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,480
it's going to be a mess and I know

1583
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:13,800
there's a parking lot at the end of our

1584
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,000
block but if you've ever been to that

1585
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,159
parking lot my kids call it Zombie Land

1586
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:19,520
because of all the transients and

1587
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,040
everybody that's walking around that

1588
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,040
parking lot's not safe at all there's an

1589
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,480
abandoned building at the end of our

1590
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,640
property or at the end of our block

1591
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,960
where like the police department has had

1592
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,719
to go in there and clear out transients

1593
01:10:29,719 --> 01:10:31,360
I think last week there was a transient

1594
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,840
that died in that building so with you

1595
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,640
bringing that many more people into our

1596
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,640
our neighborhood it's going to be a

1597
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,000
nightmare they're saying there going to

1598
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,520
be four bedroom apartments or condos

1599
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,719
there with a two g a twocc car garage

1600
01:10:43,719 --> 01:10:46,000
where are those other two cars going to

1601
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,600
be if it's four adults living in that

1602
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:48,719
building they're going to have to park

1603
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:50,440
in our neighborhood we already have a

1604
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:52,960
shortage of parking so that parking is

1605
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,800
going to be a major issue cuz they're

1606
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,040
not going to be able to park on elsaa

1607
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,199
Boulevard because that's a huge thare

1608
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:00,280
right they're going to have to go into

1609
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,320
our neighborhood so I just want you to

1610
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,000
realize that that a building of this

1611
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,679
size is going to be just destroy our

1612
01:11:06,679 --> 01:11:08,920
neighborhood okay I'm sorry what was

1613
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:14,280
your name ISM Tava is Tava t a v r a do

1614
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,199
you mind can I do you mind handing me

1615
01:11:16,199 --> 01:11:17,520
that you can have this copy I took I

1616
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:18,520
appreciate

1617
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,880
it

1618
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,159
this yeah sure Maria can you use yeah

1619
01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:26,239
Maria can you grab it

1620
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:32,350
I did

1621
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,280
was you thank

1622
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,120
you one second hi um my name is

1623
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,400
Elizabeth Wilson I live at

1624
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,199
4590 West 129th Street so um M on this

1625
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:48,480
map mine is the very last property um to

1626
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:51,800
the left on the south side and um my

1627
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:56,199
neighbor came as well um I am not as

1628
01:11:56,199 --> 01:11:58,080
diligent about knowing what's going on

1629
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,080
in the neighborhood but my other

1630
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,120
neighbors are and so I decided to come

1631
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,040
and I made notes I'm excited that it's

1632
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,000
going to be a for sale property um the

1633
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,199
two years of construction is going to be

1634
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:13,320
tough I think everybody's complained

1635
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,120
about the parking um my concern is

1636
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,520
something that had been said about

1637
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,800
something happening on 129th Street my

1638
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,120
understanding was there was going to be

1639
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,239
a a barrier wall um built on the

1640
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:29,440
backside of the Southside parking and

1641
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:31,320
then you mentioned something about the

1642
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,679
street being or the sidewalk so that's

1643
01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:38,070
on the inside is that

1644
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,080
correct

1645
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,600
sorry is it on the inside because I'm

1646
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,719
confused because the street on that

1647
01:12:45,719 --> 01:12:48,880
portion is high is elevated on 129

1648
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,159
clarify all of that at the end of the

1649
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:53,360
hearing okay sorry um so was that was my

1650
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,280
primary question is that I was very conf

1651
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,840
Fus between what I understood from

1652
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,199
planning and what was said about what's

1653
01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:02,719
happening on the 129 side thank you

1654
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:04,320
thank

1655
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,800
you okay hello I'm Judy Trill I reside

1656
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,360
at 4500 West 129 Street I've been a

1657
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,480
resident for about 33 years and I'm very

1658
01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:18,560
concerned about the notification that

1659
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,840
was sent out to the public at least to

1660
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,880
the residents that were near I received

1661
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,360
from from my neighbor who resides right

1662
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,400
next door to the nursery information

1663
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,320
about The Melia home project um just

1664
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,000
about two weeks ago um only because we

1665
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,080
were talking and sharing information but

1666
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,480
I reside right across directly across

1667
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:47,639
the street from her on 129th and I never

1668
01:13:47,639 --> 01:13:50,199
received any information regarding this

1669
01:13:50,199 --> 01:13:53,800
project at all so I understand that they

1670
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,440
want to do the proximity close to the

1671
01:13:56,440 --> 01:13:58,960
area but this impacts all of the

1672
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,880
Neighbors on 129

1673
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,840
street so I'm concerned about that and

1674
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,639
then I had a couple other things um

1675
01:14:08,639 --> 01:14:11,679
incorrect information as was stated by

1676
01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:13,360
um the resident at

1677
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,440
4490 um was sent to the

1678
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:20,639
residents with a date I did call and I I

1679
01:14:20,639 --> 01:14:24,520
commented about it to um that the phone

1680
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,960
number that was listed and I was really

1681
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,159
disappointed that we have a June 5th

1682
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:32,159
when we didn't receive the information

1683
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:36,600
until after the the 25 the

1684
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,920
21st of this month or I mean of last

1685
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,679
month for this

1686
01:14:42,679 --> 01:14:46,880
um that's a problem that's incomplete

1687
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,159
information and I was I did a couple

1688
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:52,960
days later receive a corrected copy but

1689
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,159
this actually doesn't give us much time

1690
01:14:55,159 --> 01:14:57,719
to review any of the reports or anything

1691
01:14:57,719 --> 01:15:00,280
that we can do especially when we don't

1692
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,280
know what is going on in our

1693
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,880
neighborhood I never received any

1694
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:10,600
information with regard to this um and I

1695
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,719
hate well the other thing was was I kind

1696
01:15:13,719 --> 01:15:15,239
of took a look at some of the

1697
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:17,639
information and I'm not real clear about

1698
01:15:17,639 --> 01:15:20,320
all of it but when it talks about that

1699
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,400
the study was done from

1700
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,960
2021 or we have a time period of 20 21

1701
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,920
to 2029 I'm assuming those are the years

1702
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,719
and that's a 9-year period 8year period

1703
01:15:33,719 --> 01:15:37,239
that we have to take a look at and

1704
01:15:37,239 --> 01:15:39,800
traffic already on ala Gunda Boulevard

1705
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,040
if I any of you travel it during uh from

1706
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,440
after 3:00 or after the high school gets

1707
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:49,000
out traffic is absolutely horrible so

1708
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,280
129 Street going to um going east to Haw

1709
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,000
Boulevard traffic is

1710
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,719
horrendous I mean it's crazy and as the

1711
01:15:59,719 --> 01:16:03,360
neighbor had stated um they drive really

1712
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,440
fast and so you can't I mean my son has

1713
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:10,679
has left um but anyway um it just gets

1714
01:16:10,679 --> 01:16:13,360
to be a real problem and it needs to be

1715
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,280
considered and not notifying everybody

1716
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,040
makes it a problem sorry we do have to

1717
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,679
keep everyone at 3 minutes apprciate I

1718
01:16:20,679 --> 01:16:23,000
sorry thank you before and just before

1719
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,600
the next person start I wasn't looking

1720
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,800
behind me is the the counter the timer

1721
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,040
are you running the timer I'm running

1722
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,800
the okay then I can I'm sorry for every

1723
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,080
I keep looking down at my phone CU I

1724
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,520
think I'm doing the timer myself never

1725
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,760
mind okay strch your timer try to talk

1726
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,920
as fast as I can my name is hii Dick

1727
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,760
obashi uh I used to have a b uh Crystal

1728
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,520
Palace Bard it's opposite of kakatu in I

1729
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,520
have a house on man in the middle of

1730
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,239
Manor Drive on the hillside on on the

1731
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:51,760
west side of the street uh I'm very

1732
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,960
opposed to this project because Manor

1733
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,480
Drive is is very narrow all the traffic

1734
01:16:57,480 --> 01:16:59,840
uh I don't see exact explicitly where

1735
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,320
the where this uh driveway is looks like

1736
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,159
it's on the corners I don't I'm afraid

1737
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:08,679
that it's not big enough there are cars

1738
01:17:08,679 --> 01:17:11,040
parked on both sides of the Manor

1739
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,520
Drive uh I just don't see the

1740
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,120
feasibility of this place at all as

1741
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,239
currently

1742
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:23,639
configured I'm especially worried about

1743
01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:26,520
Manor Drive in my house and the traffic

1744
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,120
coming in and out of this place the

1745
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,719
2-year construction site bothers me also

1746
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:35,440
I live in Gardina uh we almost

1747
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:38,960
successfully nixed the the the Cocoon

1748
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,880
House now they got a seven story

1749
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,120
building going up and we've got the

1750
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,520
whole our whole neighborhood is dead

1751
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:46,639
against

1752
01:17:46,639 --> 01:17:50,800
that um there's just too much traffic

1753
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,239
there's just too many buildings it's uh

1754
01:17:54,239 --> 01:17:57,320
uh it's not feasible at all in my

1755
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,360
opinion and I would be against

1756
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:06,910
it thank you very much thank thank

1757
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,600
you hi my name is David Lind I'm a

1758
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,000
resident at one uh 29th Street 45530

1759
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,880
129th Street um I just wanted to share

1760
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,880
some of my concerns um so first of all

1761
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,360
uh just to Echo what was said before

1762
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,719
that uh this mailing was confusing it

1763
01:18:25,719 --> 01:18:27,560
created a deadline of

1764
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,840
2023 uh along along with that I just

1765
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,040
wanted to ask the committee like is this

1766
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,280
actually the last time to submit public

1767
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,280
comments did I did I hear that

1768
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,320
correctly we'll address at the end of

1769
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,800
sorry okay um so um what I would say is

1770
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,800
that like I would if it's possible if

1771
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,080
this is not the last time to submit

1772
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,760
public comments I would like for this

1773
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:49,920
request that

1774
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,400
this that that we're able to submit

1775
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,880
written comments

1776
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,840
going forward uh you know to basically

1777
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,400
extend the deadline for written comments

1778
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,600
given that this mailing was confusing um

1779
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,040
uh I'd also like to say that uh it

1780
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,040
sounds like that there was some Outreach

1781
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,560
um from Mia homes but we did not receive

1782
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,719
uh the mailing uh and in any event um

1783
01:19:13,719 --> 01:19:16,600
one one representative one person from

1784
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,400
129th giving feedback is probably not

1785
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,159
sufficient um for the developer to you

1786
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:23,440
know I just don't think that's enough of

1787
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:25,360
a sample size

1788
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,760
um I'd like to also say that uh you know

1789
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,520
I want to Echo some of the concerns

1790
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,760
about traffic um and the safety of 129th

1791
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,120
Street um people do speed regularly they

1792
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,280
use it as a substitute East West uh

1793
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,360
conduit in place of elsag gundo I can

1794
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,440
only imagine that if elano is more has

1795
01:19:42,440 --> 01:19:44,400
more traffic that there'll be more true

1796
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,639
in the future um you should consider

1797
01:19:46,639 --> 01:19:49,320
adding speed bumps um the intersection

1798
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,760
of elag gundo I'm sorry 129th Ramona

1799
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,600
Avenue is particularly dangerous because

1800
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,159
of a lack of sight line

1801
01:19:55,159 --> 01:19:57,120
and there's also only a two-way stop you

1802
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,480
should consider putting in a four-way

1803
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:00,280
stop at that intersection and putting

1804
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,600
additional speed bumps on the Ramona

1805
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,000
Avenue um uh I have some additional

1806
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,320
notes here um just question about the

1807
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,840
extended construction phase um Can the

1808
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,600
city assure existing residents that

1809
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,199
portions of the current parking area

1810
01:20:14,199 --> 01:20:16,679
along 129th Street won't be disrupted

1811
01:20:16,679 --> 01:20:19,120
for an extended period of time uh if

1812
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,440
it's expected that that's going to be

1813
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:22,520
the case what Provisions will the city

1814
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,000
or the developer do you know provide so

1815
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,280
that we are not parking blocks away

1816
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,639
parking is already an issue safety is

1817
01:20:29,639 --> 01:20:31,080
already an issue I should also point out

1818
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,360
that that street that sidewalk is used

1819
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,360
by dozens of high school students and

1820
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,000
you know people use that to actually

1821
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,800
walk so there are definitely safety

1822
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,800
considerations uh and lastly I want to

1823
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,480
Echo the concerns about um overflow from

1824
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:47,760
this uh development like we have

1825
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,080
difficulty parking already um I'd like

1826
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,280
to know if there's going to be permit

1827
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,719
parking or something like that

1828
01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:55,159
considered um so

1829
01:20:55,159 --> 01:21:04,350
that's all I got thank you thank

1830
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,040
you is

1831
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,480
on hi I'm Kim Lind you just met my

1832
01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:14,229
husband um so one second so I can

1833
01:21:14,239 --> 01:21:17,400
reset okay I'm good you go okay Kim Lind

1834
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,239
you just spent my husband we're at 4530

1835
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:21,239
West 129th we are right across the

1836
01:21:21,239 --> 01:21:24,320
street from this project and I'm sorry

1837
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,440
that I'm redundant I sit on a dis often

1838
01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:29,239
and I know how boring it can get when

1839
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:30,440
you hear the same thing over and over

1840
01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:31,679
again but I also know that sometimes

1841
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:33,080
hearing it over and over again actually

1842
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,679
makes an impact so um parking is an

1843
01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:38,920
issue on 129th already with only um 60

1844
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,440
spots for 68 units while that may be

1845
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:44,639
better than code I can tell you right

1846
01:21:44,639 --> 01:21:48,600
now we don't have 2.3 spots per resident

1847
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,440
on 129th right now I would love that um

1848
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:53,639
I often uh get home late from work and

1849
01:21:53,639 --> 01:21:57,040
have to park BL walks away so when

1850
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,760
holidays happen when people have guests

1851
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,760
over where do you think that parking's

1852
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,320
going it's going on 129th where there's

1853
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,880
already a pretty significant parking

1854
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,719
issue and that lot at the end doesn't

1855
01:22:05,719 --> 01:22:08,760
allow for overnight parking so I'm just

1856
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,000
something will have to be done with this

1857
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,760
development going in to um take care of

1858
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,320
the current residents who've chosen to

1859
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,159
live here we've been living here for 14

1860
01:22:17,159 --> 01:22:18,719
years so we would just ask that you

1861
01:22:18,719 --> 01:22:20,639
would take care of us as well as your

1862
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:23,600
new residents um permit parking

1863
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,560
certainly would be an answer on 129th um

1864
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,280
certainly narrowing the street is a

1865
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,800
concern when I go to my car in the

1866
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,239
morning people come screaming through at

1867
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:37,719
50 40 50 miles per hour and if you if

1868
01:22:37,719 --> 01:22:39,639
there's no stoplight coming out of that

1869
01:22:39,639 --> 01:22:43,679
um that new uh development what they're

1870
01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:44,760
going to do is they're going to turn

1871
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,679
right on Elsa gundo turn right on

1872
01:22:46,679 --> 01:22:49,639
Hawthorne turn right on 129th and just

1873
01:22:49,639 --> 01:22:51,360
join the rest of the barrage of cars

1874
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,040
that we get in the morning um I too have

1875
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,880
had Dam done to my car I think everybody

1876
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,280
who lives on that street who's had to

1877
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,120
park on the street has so I would just

1878
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,480
say like traffic I don't know if there's

1879
01:23:01,480 --> 01:23:03,080
been a traffic study done I would

1880
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,639
certainly appreciate knowing where that

1881
01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:06,800
is because it certainly should I'm

1882
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,040
guessing it did because I think it's

1883
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,760
required um I also would like to know

1884
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,080
where the SQL study is and the

1885
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,480
environmental study was done um I would

1886
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:14,840
like to know where those are posted so

1887
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,040
that we can make sure that we as

1888
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,480
residents can take a look at that

1889
01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:19,400
because you are replacing green space

1890
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,600
with Hardscape um and and and I I just

1891
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,840
want to be aware of what the impact of

1892
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,719
that is

1893
01:23:27,719 --> 01:23:30,719
um uh let's see Landscaping so I know

1894
01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:32,480
there's a retaining wall going up on

1895
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:34,920
129th Street I would also just ask that

1896
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,000
you consider Landscaping in that area so

1897
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,600
we're not looking at an ugly wall um

1898
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,880
from our uh from our view and then also

1899
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,159
I just I do want you to understand that

1900
01:23:45,159 --> 01:23:46,480
similar to what the gentleman Shar

1901
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:47,719
before we used to have a view of the

1902
01:23:47,719 --> 01:23:48,880
mountains that's one of the reasons we

1903
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,360
bought our house we can actually see the

1904
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,040
Hollywood Sign from our house and now

1905
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,639
we'll be looking in someone's bedroom or

1906
01:23:53,639 --> 01:23:56,800
apparently onto their porch so I just

1907
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,199
what I would ask the Planning Commission

1908
01:23:58,199 --> 01:24:02,120
to to consider is you have residents who

1909
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,760
already live here and we're just asking

1910
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,520
for the same thoughtfulness and care

1911
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,320
that you're thinking of as you think

1912
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,000
about putting new residents in um and

1913
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,239
making sure that we are also taken care

1914
01:24:13,239 --> 01:24:15,679
of um because we've been here for a long

1915
01:24:15,679 --> 01:24:19,199
time and we would love to stay um but

1916
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:23,040
that's all I have to say thanks thank

1917
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,840
you hi

1918
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,719
I I'm Ross sodachi I represent hawthor

1919
01:24:27,719 --> 01:24:29,520
Nursery I'm representing them in terms

1920
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,040
of this Association and dealing with

1921
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:36,000
Melia homes um when I talked to the

1922
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,760
family about selling the property I told

1923
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,360
them that with the housing overlay they

1924
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,719
could go up to 94 units and have

1925
01:24:41,719 --> 01:24:43,360
Apartments but they said no they don't

1926
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,080
want to do that to the community they

1927
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,320
want to keep it down and Malia Malia

1928
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,600
came up with a project of 68 Town Homes

1929
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,159
I I hear a lot of the concerns that

1930
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:54,520
people have I'm also a developer I've

1931
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,000
heard the all of these concerns before

1932
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,159
in all of the projects these are issues

1933
01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:01,440
to raise with the building department I

1934
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:03,400
understand what there's a lot of people

1935
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,040
with concerns on 129th Street they're

1936
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,880
talking about the block wall they want

1937
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,520
it to be landscaped they want speed

1938
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,800
bumps they're talking about people

1939
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,080
speeding so we understand all that I was

1940
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,280
talking to the other gentleman back

1941
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,960
there who has a house on Manor he was

1942
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,000
worried about uh access on Manor Drive

1943
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,119
and I said talked to the building

1944
01:25:19,119 --> 01:25:21,520
department I told him that this hearing

1945
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,760
is to reduce the number of lots from 15

1946
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,239
to two so they could move forward if we

1947
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:28,560
had sold to an apartment developer this

1948
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,639
would this hearing would not be

1949
01:25:29,639 --> 01:25:30,920
happening and they would just be going

1950
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:38,189
ahead and building so thank

1951
01:25:38,199 --> 01:25:41,480
you hello one second make sure you get

1952
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:43,910
your time

1953
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,960
set gotcha okay good evening my name is

1954
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,639
Tony Tran and I'm the homeowner of 12704

1955
01:25:52,639 --> 01:25:55,960
Manor Drive which is adjacent to the

1956
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,480
right to the north of the development so

1957
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:00,760
I was I did attend the recent meeting

1958
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,679
with the other residents and Mr Brown

1959
01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:06,520
and uh I appreciate that I appreciate

1960
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:11,400
seeing the the screen of trees um on

1961
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,360
the uh West and north side of the

1962
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,440
development uh to uh preserve and

1963
01:26:18,440 --> 01:26:20,679
enhance the Privacy

1964
01:26:20,679 --> 01:26:22,960
so just want to make sure that you know

1965
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,760
if we can make that happen

1966
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,159
that would be great and you know the

1967
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:28,400
large larger trees the better so because

1968
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,960
I'm right there on the north of the

1969
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,360
property and my other concern is with

1970
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,080
increased traffic of course and and

1971
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,040
street parking on Manor Drive that could

1972
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,440
happen from the project and so if this

1973
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:42,520
could be

1974
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,520
addressed um I would appreciate it going

1975
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:52,430
forward thank you thank

1976
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:55,480
you all good my name is Philip Pearson

1977
01:26:55,480 --> 01:26:57,880
I've been a resident at hearon since

1978
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:03,159
1993 uh one thing uh I'm looking at this

1979
01:27:03,159 --> 01:27:06,560
project and I'm looking at how you

1980
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,159
putting a small putting a big puzzle in

1981
01:27:09,159 --> 01:27:11,760
a small Peg and it seems like it's going

1982
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,040
to be a lot more

1983
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,280
traffic I mean you cannot eliminate that

1984
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,639
we have children riding

1985
01:27:18,639 --> 01:27:21,320
bikes more traffic I'm I seen children

1986
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,920
get hit that's a big concern you know I

1987
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:29,199
mean I know you put this up investors

1988
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:31,360
put this up oh this is a nice area you

1989
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,199
know that make more Revenue but there's

1990
01:27:34,199 --> 01:27:36,960
safety concerns are not being looked at

1991
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,800
that's one considerate consideration of

1992
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,280
already property tax residents who pay

1993
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,239
tax is not being considered this is a

1994
01:27:45,239 --> 01:27:48,159
joke how you given this flyer out it's

1995
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:50,280
not enough time there's no respect to

1996
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,159
the current residents and that that's a

1997
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:56,159
problem I have you know you know uh

1998
01:27:56,159 --> 01:27:58,400
there have been several projects that

1999
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,159
supposed to been happening

2000
01:28:01,159 --> 01:28:03,360
RFK that used to be a hospital there was

2001
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,239
supposed to be a project there that

2002
01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:07,360
hasn't come for permission that's that's

2003
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,600
that's a big lot right right over there

2004
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,199
okay there other one over there snw used

2005
01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:14,080
to have there's supposed to

2006
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,159
be apartment buildings put up over there

2007
01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:19,920
that hasn't came so it seems like and

2008
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,199
those are much bigger Lots it seems like

2009
01:28:22,199 --> 01:28:24,520
you're putting over here 129 it's a

2010
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,639
smaller area compared consider to those

2011
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:30,480
other areas so that's that that's why

2012
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:33,119
this is my concern why you putting in a

2013
01:28:33,119 --> 01:28:34,920
it looks like a big area but once you

2014
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,560
start putting buildings on it it

2015
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:42,199
shrinks I'm finished and I'm my concerns

2016
01:28:42,199 --> 01:28:44,360
again like you said you got these minals

2017
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,000
at the last minute they were giv out the

2018
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,360
last minute there was no early

2019
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,880
consideration of getting out thank you

2020
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,440
thank

2021
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:56,149
you okay

2022
01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:58,440
hi there um I submitted my letter

2023
01:28:58,440 --> 01:28:59,760
through the email I'm sure you guys have

2024
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,119
read it my name is Kevin Wong 12647

2025
01:29:02,119 --> 01:29:03,679
Manor

2026
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:06,760
Drive what was the last name

2027
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:11,000
WG yeah I sent a pretty long email uh or

2028
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,360
a letter um I just wanted to voice just

2029
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,320
for everyone in the public as well that

2030
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,320
you know they think there's everyone has

2031
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,400
the same concerns it's privacy it's

2032
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,719
street parking it's traffic um I get

2033
01:29:23,719 --> 01:29:26,280
that there are restrictions in place for

2034
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,760
good reasons um but I'd like the city or

2035
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,960
even M homes to reconsider a driveway

2036
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,920
out onto Manor and why it wouldn't go

2037
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,560
into gellia or even just eliminated

2038
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,199
driveway altogether because the other

2039
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:42,280
property on the souths side has only one

2040
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,880
driveway entrance and exit um I just

2041
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,600
think it would heavily reduce the amount

2042
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,719
of traffic that man or drive would

2043
01:29:49,719 --> 01:29:57,510
see that's it thank you thank you

2044
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,600
hi uh Richard Dragon 129th Street

2045
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:06,159
um if uh if I was uh hi Brad um I'd

2046
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:09,440
always send a flyer with a mistake on it

2047
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:11,960
so people have something something to

2048
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:12,880
complain

2049
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,840
about um it's really a non-issue to me

2050
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,360
um I haven't heard uh if there's going

2051
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,679
to be a Stairway to 129th

2052
01:30:22,679 --> 01:30:25,480
Street um all the questions if you

2053
01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:29,119
address here we'll make sure they and uh

2054
01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:31,679
I'm Not Dead Set against the project uh

2055
01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:34,159
I've regret it I I've re uh worried

2056
01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:37,119
about it for years but uh it's an

2057
01:30:37,119 --> 01:30:41,360
eventuality that I knew was coming

2058
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,480
um I'd like to know what we could do to

2059
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:45,480
mitigate uh

2060
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:48,119
dust while they're in under

2061
01:30:48,119 --> 01:30:52,239
construction and uh hopefully it will

2062
01:30:52,239 --> 01:30:54,440
raise the property values

2063
01:30:54,440 --> 01:30:57,719
by not being Apartments so thank you

2064
01:30:57,719 --> 01:31:02,790
thank you

2065
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:07,040
sir hello my name is eser aadia I'm my

2066
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,880
husband came ahead and he just wanted me

2067
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,600
to add more things I we own the property

2068
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,320
of uh

2069
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,159
4555 West 129th Street we purchased that

2070
01:31:17,159 --> 01:31:19,719
house basically because on one side was

2071
01:31:19,719 --> 01:31:22,159
the nursery we and we have been there

2072
01:31:22,159 --> 01:31:24,840
for like I'd say 30 years years and

2073
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,440
we've been using it at rental it was

2074
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:31,199
basically an income for our kids um what

2075
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:34,080
I'm seeing now is that I don't know if

2076
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,920
they're concerned about the water we've

2077
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,320
had problems with our sump in our rental

2078
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,920
we've had it replaced twice already are

2079
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,880
they taking that in consideration

2080
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,280
because of the height level as well as

2081
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,280
the parking I've always never been able

2082
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,560
to find easy parking and I would always

2083
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,000
block my driveway when I come to talk to

2084
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,280
the tenants

2085
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,679
so that is an issue for me and I come in

2086
01:31:57,679 --> 01:31:59,800
the middle of the day I don't even come

2087
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:03,280
at night when people are at home and um

2088
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,639
walking on that sidewalk which is narrow

2089
01:32:05,639 --> 01:32:07,960
with certain areas where

2090
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,320
the the poles for electricity it is a

2091
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,679
little hazardous so widening it I don't

2092
01:32:14,679 --> 01:32:17,600
know if it'll make a difference but um

2093
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,199
putting that block wall but at the

2094
01:32:20,199 --> 01:32:22,840
different heights uh is the are they

2095
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,080
going to have the three floors I mean

2096
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,800
the the apartments that have three

2097
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,239
floors on the height of 129th or are

2098
01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:32,320
they going to base it down below and are

2099
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,760
they going to take care of the water

2100
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,440
drainage so that it doesn't flood and

2101
01:32:36,440 --> 01:32:37,480
cause

2102
01:32:37,480 --> 01:32:41,080
problems um the other thing is the noise

2103
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,400
there's going to be two years that my

2104
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,080
tenants are going to have to suffer

2105
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,320
through and the dust and the noise I

2106
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,600
hope they are thinking of accommodating

2107
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,199
living standards and how how the noise

2108
01:32:52,199 --> 01:32:55,600
will impact everybody

2109
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,560
um I think it's great that it's going to

2110
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,880
be for sale and I I'm aware that our

2111
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:02,480
hands are tied because of what

2112
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:05,920
California State Legislature had passed

2113
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,000
regarding housing so um I think this is

2114
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,280
the best of worst

2115
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,119
scenarios and I can accommodate that but

2116
01:33:15,119 --> 01:33:18,280
I think uh this area has some unique

2117
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,239
features that needed to be taken care of

2118
01:33:21,239 --> 01:33:24,199
in fact my neighbor on the other side

2119
01:33:24,199 --> 01:33:26,520
I've gone in when I've taken before

2120
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,280
while I was taking care of my myself had

2121
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,400
people come in and change the cement and

2122
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,239
everything there's just a little bit

2123
01:33:33,239 --> 01:33:35,639
overflowing and it's flooding you have

2124
01:33:35,639 --> 01:33:39,360
to understand 129th is like the houses

2125
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,679
on the owner's unit is three levels with

2126
01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:44,800
the one down below being a car garage so

2127
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,320
that's the height but on the street it's

2128
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,880
two floors okay and to me that's a big

2129
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,840
Hazard for the the coming Department

2130
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,639
units thank you so much I see I'm

2131
01:33:55,639 --> 01:33:56,760
running

2132
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,280
late I just want to clarify something

2133
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:03,239
with her if you don't mind um Mrs ovadia

2134
01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:07,199
ovadia yes um you said water or flooding

2135
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:09,280
where is when it rains you have to

2136
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,320
understand okay

2137
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,639
129th um is houses on the street only

2138
01:34:15,639 --> 01:34:19,320
see two floors two floors only but

2139
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,800
underneath we don't have basements

2140
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,560
normally in California but there is a

2141
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,480
basement and that basement is a garage

2142
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:29,960
so when you come in the driveway you go

2143
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,719
down the driveway it goes steep down and

2144
01:34:32,719 --> 01:34:36,560
you turn to park and that part is I

2145
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,360
would call it a basement because I'm

2146
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:42,119
from New England I've been here 40 plus

2147
01:34:42,119 --> 01:34:46,719
44 years but I'm still New England so

2148
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:48,760
anyhow that to me is a

2149
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,760
basement but the tenants in the back

2150
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,800
only one floor and they're on that

2151
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,639
ground floor that's on Elsa gundo so you

2152
01:34:59,639 --> 01:35:02,480
have to see it's a gradient appreciate

2153
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:04,360
I'm sorry we got thank you do you

2154
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:05,840
understand what I'm talking about and I

2155
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,239
can see that there will be if it's not

2156
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:11,040
taken into consideration those people

2157
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,080
who buy homes will be unhappy okay thank

2158
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:18,830
you thank you thank

2159
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:22,840
you my my name is Sean Carol I'm at 4548

2160
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:27,280
West 129 Street been there 60 plus years

2161
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,880
my born and raised here in hawthor the

2162
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,639
city of good

2163
01:35:31,639 --> 01:35:33,199
neighbors

2164
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:36,119
so and my family my father played for

2165
01:35:36,119 --> 01:35:38,639
the LA Angels and Pacific h leagues and

2166
01:35:38,639 --> 01:35:41,679
my family's been here for from the 30s

2167
01:35:41,679 --> 01:35:45,560
so when I bought that house I paid extra

2168
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:46,719
for the

2169
01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:50,239
view quite quite a large sum you see

2170
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:51,800
these pictures they're not two bedrooms

2171
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,199
or two stories they're three stories

2172
01:35:54,199 --> 01:35:57,080
40ft base then the

2173
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,480
ceiling it's like standing next to a

2174
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:03,320
wall when they do that when they add

2175
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,760
parking they don't allow access to out

2176
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,320
if you saw the if you saw the the

2177
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,159
drawing they don't allow access out at

2178
01:36:10,159 --> 01:36:13,040
the 129th for automobiles but they allow

2179
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,639
entrance and exit by passengers or

2180
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:20,400
pedestrians so you can park your car 129

2181
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,560
then walk in the back gate but if you

2182
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,040
don't get on when you're coming down

2183
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,440
elag gondo you don't get in you just

2184
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:27,840
whip around the corner find a place to

2185
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,080
park but I walked over here I didn't

2186
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:31,920
drive because there's no parking when I

2187
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,760
go when I went back I couldn't get a

2188
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,119
parking spot

2189
01:36:36,119 --> 01:36:39,080
so people drive from they M they try to

2190
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,600
mitigate this about 10 years ago they

2191
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,119
put speed bumps on top of the hill 129th

2192
01:36:43,119 --> 01:36:46,159
because people cut down when they put in

2193
01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:49,760
uh SpaceX more traffic started coming so

2194
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,520
they shoot down 129th Street to get get

2195
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,040
to Haw bouard turn right on ha bouevard

2196
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,960
or they come down 130th cut cut across

2197
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,000
and they cut down hawor bouevard when

2198
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,679
you do the same thing when with El

2199
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:04,159
agendo they're not going to be able to

2200
01:37:04,159 --> 01:37:06,840
they won't be able to park so they'll

2201
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,239
whip around the street park on 12 29th

2202
01:37:09,239 --> 01:37:12,960
taking people's parking space so I think

2203
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,239
that's about

2204
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:17,239
it thank you all right and then you know

2205
01:37:17,239 --> 01:37:18,560
the thing

2206
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,639
is in the flyer I saw just saw today

2207
01:37:21,639 --> 01:37:23,760
they said you have to speak speak your

2208
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,560
mind today we have problems bringing up

2209
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,440
today but people just get that note

2210
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:29,320
today they can't they they haven't

2211
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,840
figured out T beginning of a long

2212
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:33,719
weekend you know some of these people

2213
01:37:33,719 --> 01:37:36,760
have G already left left town gone to

2214
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,520
the beach

2215
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,520
so that's it thank you very much thank

2216
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,910
you very

2217
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:48,679
much there anyone else than thank you or

2218
01:37:48,679 --> 01:37:52,000
be the last one okay I'm the resident on

2219
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,560
the south side on El Segundo Boulevard

2220
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,920
4556 West El Segundo my name is Jesus

2221
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:05,040
Ortega I've been living in hurn for 25

2222
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,360
years on that

2223
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,280
property

2224
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:14,560
and uh the notice that I have I have it

2225
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:19,800
last week Friday and I have another one

2226
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:24,320
Monday is not enough time for people

2227
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,520
like myself that it works to respond and

2228
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,159
to say anything

2229
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:34,000
except I hope you consider it extended

2230
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,199
and I hope it be another opportunity for

2231
01:38:37,199 --> 01:38:39,920
the community to speak because many

2232
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,920
people doesn't get even the

2233
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,239
notice is the first time I have it in my

2234
01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:49,960
hands I do not hear from previous

2235
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,040
months or

2236
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,400
previous information

2237
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:00,990
nothing thank you thank

2238
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,199
you is there anyone else who wishes to

2239
01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:08,830
address the Planning Commission on this

2240
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:13,360
issue I cannot allow that um now there

2241
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,679
were quite a number of yeah there's

2242
01:39:15,679 --> 01:39:17,679
quite a number of issues that um need to

2243
01:39:17,679 --> 01:39:19,679
be addressed that I I knowe the

2244
01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:22,960
applicant is allowed to to respond yes

2245
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,080
um before that though I would like to

2246
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:26,920
ask for permission to address some of

2247
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,560
the issues that are concerning the city

2248
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,639
as opposed to the applicant um first is

2249
01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:35,599
the notice um the notice went out in a

2250
01:39:35,599 --> 01:39:38,159
timely fashion pursuant to the law which

2251
01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:40,719
says 10 days before the hearing I'm

2252
01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:43,599
sorry that um some of you did receive it

2253
01:39:43,599 --> 01:39:45,880
late that's with the Postal Service

2254
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,480
unfortunately not with the city uh we

2255
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:51,719
sent everything out 10 days prior we did

2256
01:39:51,719 --> 01:39:53,800
then subsequently find that one part of

2257
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,239
the notice which says submit your

2258
01:39:56,239 --> 01:39:59,000
comments by had a date from a previous

2259
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,400
notice which was June 5th

2260
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:05,159
2023 however the meeting date time and

2261
01:40:05,159 --> 01:40:08,159
location were correct and furthermore

2262
01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:10,280
the meeting date and time and location

2263
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:11,840
were correct in the newspaper

2264
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,599
notification so we did legally meet our

2265
01:40:14,599 --> 01:40:16,280
requirement but as a courtesy we did

2266
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,639
send a a revised notice to all the same

2267
01:40:19,639 --> 01:40:22,840
people stating that the period to make

2268
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,880
comments was was was not June 5th but

2269
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,480
it's actually today the um the reason

2270
01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:29,639
it's set for today is because this is

2271
01:40:29,639 --> 01:40:32,360
the hearing and we don't it wouldn't do

2272
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,239
anybody any good to have comments come

2273
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:37,360
after the hearing okay but 10 days is

2274
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,360
the standard that's standard throughout

2275
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,639
the state um there may be some

2276
01:40:41,639 --> 01:40:43,760
jurisdictions that give more but we uh

2277
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,800
by our Municipal Code give a 10-day

2278
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,280
notice and it's not 10 days from the day

2279
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:49,800
you receive it but from 10 days from

2280
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:54,000
when we mail it okay um

2281
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,159
with regard to the sidewalk on 129

2282
01:40:56,159 --> 01:40:58,040
Street it is being widened but the curb

2283
01:40:58,040 --> 01:40:59,840
is not being moved so the street will

2284
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:03,679
not be narrowed okay the um there's a

2285
01:41:03,679 --> 01:41:06,440
there's a narrow sidewalk there now and

2286
01:41:06,440 --> 01:41:10,520
some landscaping or dirt or whatever um

2287
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:12,840
that'll all be made into sidewalk so

2288
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,280
it'll be a 7 foot sidewalk with tree

2289
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,800
Wells every 50 feet with a tree planted

2290
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,320
in it by the applicant so I want to be

2291
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,320
clear on that they will have no impact

2292
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,760
on the width of of the actual driving

2293
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,360
area on 129 Street um with regard to

2294
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,840
construction traffic and

2295
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,719
noise um well let's deal with noise

2296
01:41:33,719 --> 01:41:35,599
noise is controlled by the municipal

2297
01:41:35,599 --> 01:41:37,199
code there are

2298
01:41:37,199 --> 01:41:39,880
um timelines in which construction can

2299
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,880
take place every single day it's a

2300
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,599
little bit more restrictive on on the

2301
01:41:43,599 --> 01:41:46,679
weekends I believe but uh we we will be

2302
01:41:46,679 --> 01:41:48,119
watching for that if they start

2303
01:41:48,119 --> 01:41:51,360
construction prior to was it s I think

2304
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,280
or is it 8 I forgot seven

2305
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,320
um they will receive a notice um of

2306
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,360
violation but I don't expect that to be

2307
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,920
the case and likewise construction has

2308
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:06,280
to stop at is it 6 or something I forgot

2309
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,840
when but anyway there's a time that that

2310
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,239
has to stop so at the nighttime at least

2311
01:42:11,239 --> 01:42:13,320
there will be no construction permitted

2312
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,040
and um we will be I mean we're very

2313
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:17,960
close so we'll know if they're violating

2314
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,199
that and code enforcement will be

2315
01:42:20,199 --> 01:42:22,320
keeping an eye on it as we do for every

2316
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,360
construction project in the

2317
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,360
city um as for the issue of notification

2318
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:29,119
not going to all of the neighbors again

2319
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:31,239
this goes back to the municipal code the

2320
01:42:31,239 --> 01:42:34,320
requirement for code is Neighbors within

2321
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:35,760
300

2322
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,280
ft now that doesn't include everybody on

2323
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:43,520
129th but you know how there's no um

2324
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,040
provision that we have to provide notice

2325
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,199
to everybody on 129th the requirement is

2326
01:42:47,199 --> 01:42:49,320
Neighbors within 300 ft if even a small

2327
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,119
portion of your property is within 300

2328
01:42:51,119 --> 01:42:53,320
ft of this property a notice would been

2329
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,159
mailed to you anybody outside of that

2330
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:58,679
doesn't get a notice but that's why we

2331
01:42:58,679 --> 01:43:01,280
advertise in the newspaper

2332
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,840
and I don't that's that's just pursuant

2333
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,639
to the municipal code and for per state

2334
01:43:06,639 --> 01:43:10,560
law um as for the driveway on uh Manor

2335
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,400
Drive I'll let the applicant address why

2336
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,599
not gravilla but I will say that the

2337
01:43:15,599 --> 01:43:17,400
second driveway is required on the

2338
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,719
Northern portion for fire um trucks to

2339
01:43:20,719 --> 01:43:22,159
be able to get into the property and get

2340
01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:24,639
out the the southern one is wider so

2341
01:43:24,639 --> 01:43:26,960
they're able to do a complete circle or

2342
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,520
Square so they can use one driveway that

2343
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:30,920
doesn't apply to the northern part and

2344
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,960
that's why there's a second driveway

2345
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,880
there

2346
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,880
um I a lot of the comments deal with uh

2347
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,880
development standards such as

2348
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,320
parking um I'd like to point out again

2349
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,840
that that is outside of this uh scope of

2350
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,639
this hearing all of those standards are

2351
01:43:51,639 --> 01:43:53,679
contained in the municipal code

2352
01:43:53,679 --> 01:43:55,800
and their objective meaning that the

2353
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,199
city uses no judgment it's either yes or

2354
01:43:58,199 --> 01:44:00,199
no complies or doesn't comply that's

2355
01:44:00,199 --> 01:44:02,679
pursuant to state law as one of the

2356
01:44:02,679 --> 01:44:04,560
applicants or one of the residents had

2357
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,000
said you know our hands are somewhat

2358
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:09,080
Tied by state law here so rest assured

2359
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:10,920
though there are standards and they will

2360
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:15,480
be applied and and upheld so all of the

2361
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:18,800
um all the issues related to Landscaping

2362
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,760
parking um height all of that stuff is

2363
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,800
covered and they they know the rules we

2364
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,239
know the rules and they're free to build

2365
01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:29,280
up to those rules but not

2366
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,960
Beyond um as mentioned RFK there is an

2367
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,080
application already on I don't remember

2368
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:36,440
who made that request but there is an

2369
01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:38,360
application for that site it's just it's

2370
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:39,880
tied up in the in the environmental

2371
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,159
review right now it it is slated to

2372
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:44,719
happen but it's a long process and there

2373
01:44:44,719 --> 01:44:46,280
are plenty of other sites in the city

2374
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,880
where housing is also being proposed and

2375
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:50,880
being studied

2376
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,400
currently um

2377
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:54,360
let's see if there's anything

2378
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:55,520
construction

2379
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,320
dust goes with time construction dust is

2380
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:02,080
controlled by the by the um

2381
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:06,239
AQMD and the city does enforce um dust

2382
01:45:06,239 --> 01:45:10,719
control so if there's any incident of of

2383
01:45:10,719 --> 01:45:14,800
construction dust please notify the um

2384
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,639
the city because that has to stop and

2385
01:45:17,639 --> 01:45:19,320
and the applicant is well aware of this

2386
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,159
as part of the construction you know

2387
01:45:21,159 --> 01:45:23,080
process

2388
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,159
a water issues I think you're talking

2389
01:45:25,159 --> 01:45:29,880
about drainage um again there there are

2390
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,199
plenty of of regulations that apply to

2391
01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:35,159
water all of the water that falls onto

2392
01:45:35,159 --> 01:45:36,719
this property does not leave the

2393
01:45:36,719 --> 01:45:38,760
property it stays on the property that's

2394
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:43,679
pursuant to law um and they're they're

2395
01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:45,320
going to have to have the property

2396
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,119
graded which means they're going to you

2397
01:45:47,119 --> 01:45:48,719
know move the dirt around a little bit

2398
01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:51,639
to make it drain properly that's um

2399
01:45:51,639 --> 01:45:53,840
going to be carefully uh monitored by

2400
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,520
the city and and it'll have to be

2401
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,400
approved that's standard that's for

2402
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:58,440
every

2403
01:45:58,440 --> 01:46:00,719
project um so I don't think that um

2404
01:46:00,719 --> 01:46:03,199
flooding is going to be much of an issue

2405
01:46:03,199 --> 01:46:05,360
here and the applicant may want to

2406
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,080
expand on that a little

2407
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,880
bit um the question about where the

2408
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,440
bottom of the units uh adjacent to 129

2409
01:46:12,440 --> 01:46:14,400
they'll be on the low part they will not

2410
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,360
be three stories above 129 Street

2411
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:18,840
there'll be a floor and a half below

2412
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:24,870
129th and then a floor and a half above

2413
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:26,760
I think that covers all the city issues

2414
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,080
now um if uh the applicant would like to

2415
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,040
address the issues that are more

2416
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:33,920
specific to the

2417
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,080
project oh I'm sorry there was one other

2418
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:37,599
question related to

2419
01:46:37,599 --> 01:46:41,800
squa um the squl studies I think that

2420
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:43,320
person actually left but hopefully

2421
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,199
they're watching on TV the squl studies

2422
01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:48,159
were um there's two of there's actually

2423
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:52,480
one it was done when the um in 2022 when

2424
01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:55,639
the uh overlay was first adopted that's

2425
01:46:55,639 --> 01:46:58,440
available from the city we can email it

2426
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:01,760
to you or you can come in and look at it

2427
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,840
um I'm not sure if it's posted online

2428
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:05,719
right now but we'll accommodate anyone

2429
01:47:05,719 --> 01:47:08,400
that needs to see it the other squa um

2430
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,239
that we're addressing here is called a

2431
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:12,280
categorical exemption for infill

2432
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,679
development that's a state carve out

2433
01:47:14,679 --> 01:47:17,840
that exempts this project from requiring

2434
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:19,719
eir or a negative declaration or

2435
01:47:19,719 --> 01:47:22,920
anything more significant this is a

2436
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:26,040
qualified site for infill development so

2437
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:28,000
we're covered on two basis if you if

2438
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,480
you're not satisfied with the one we've

2439
01:47:29,480 --> 01:47:31,639
got the other but um usually you only

2440
01:47:31,639 --> 01:47:32,599
need

2441
01:47:32,599 --> 01:47:36,280
one okay just a uh Greg there's one more

2442
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,840
question yeah it was just someone asked

2443
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,639
of the environmental study if they

2444
01:47:41,639 --> 01:47:43,320
wanted to read it yeah that's what I

2445
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,040
said okay sorry just want it's available

2446
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:46,360
from the planning department you can

2447
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,239
reach out to any of the well our email

2448
01:47:49,239 --> 01:47:51,480
addresses on the on the city's website

2449
01:47:51,480 --> 01:47:53,400
email us we'll send it to you

2450
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,080
and I did want to just to add back I

2451
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:56,520
know I saw an email from Nathan earlier

2452
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,080
apparently that SQL file is pretty big

2453
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,400
so it's hard to email so you you guys

2454
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:02,760
are not were apparently yeah we'll put

2455
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,239
it we'll we'll put it onto a download

2456
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:06,159
site then if that's the case gotta it's

2457
01:48:06,159 --> 01:48:07,880
a it's definitely a public document and

2458
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,320
anybody can look at

2459
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,840
it okay I can't um we actually don't

2460
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,400
can't take comments from the car that's

2461
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,560
why we have I understand that's why we

2462
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:19,119
have a public comment but I appreciate

2463
01:48:19,119 --> 01:48:21,639
you thank you have you like to respond

2464
01:48:21,639 --> 01:48:24,920
to sure thank you um and I I do thank

2465
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,760
all the residents for coming out and

2466
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,119
expressing their concerns and I hope by

2467
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:31,400
some of those responses that I'm that

2468
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:35,199
I'll be providing to you um show that we

2469
01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:38,760
in our design of the ultimate project

2470
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,040
that is

2471
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,119
uh following the map process that we're

2472
01:48:44,119 --> 01:48:47,719
here for tonight that because of our

2473
01:48:47,719 --> 01:48:49,719
history and my history um that we've

2474
01:48:49,719 --> 01:48:52,560
tried to address those as some what I

2475
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,760
like like to call us project design

2476
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:59,280
features um and that is um with regards

2477
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,119
to for instance uh the elevation of the

2478
01:49:02,119 --> 01:49:05,040
buildings from 129th Street um we

2479
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,599
initially I mean I've got portions of

2480
01:49:07,599 --> 01:49:10,760
our of our team that are here I was like

2481
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,560
we want to because those houses are

2482
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,280
elevated to some degree I want to drop

2483
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,440
the grade so that's why we're dropping

2484
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:20,480
the site grade at 129th below 129th to

2485
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:23,480
help alleviate a three-story structure I

2486
01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:26,719
believe um we don't build homes that are

2487
01:49:26,719 --> 01:49:29,199
60 ft tall but I believe the housing

2488
01:49:29,199 --> 01:49:31,119
overlay has an allowance of up to 60

2489
01:49:31,119 --> 01:49:34,119
feet uh for Building height we're at 38

2490
01:49:34,119 --> 01:49:37,480
we're three stories so we initially and

2491
01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:40,239
in our proposed designs that are part of

2492
01:49:40,239 --> 01:49:42,719
the tenative track map are lowering the

2493
01:49:42,719 --> 01:49:45,199
elevation of the site 6 to8 feet below

2494
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:48,239
the elevation of 129th Street um for for

2495
01:49:48,239 --> 01:49:50,800
that reason as Mr mlan mentioned there

2496
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,040
will only be portions of the POR of the

2497
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:54,840
House of the proposed town homes that

2498
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,719
would be visible from Beyond and above

2499
01:49:57,719 --> 01:49:58,719
at

2500
01:49:58,719 --> 01:50:02,960
129 um Mr mlan touched on the sidewalk

2501
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,760
um the sidewalk on 129th is very narrow

2502
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,880
it is dirt there are utility poles and

2503
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,159
so forth with it and that's why the City

2504
01:50:10,159 --> 01:50:12,639
Public Works director is wanting that

2505
01:50:12,639 --> 01:50:15,000
sidewalk to be seven feet wide that

2506
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,199
current is the width of the current

2507
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:19,080
Parkway whether it be sidewalk and dirt

2508
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,880
it's going to be all sidewalk with some

2509
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,119
trees planted along the sidewalk at the

2510
01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:25,360
top of the at the top of the project if

2511
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:26,639
it is

2512
01:50:26,639 --> 01:50:30,000
approved um regards to the parking that

2513
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,639
we've heard

2514
01:50:32,639 --> 01:50:34,440
um we

2515
01:50:34,440 --> 01:50:38,040
design what we have to have for our

2516
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,119
residents future residents to be happy

2517
01:50:40,119 --> 01:50:41,719
and have a place to park it has to be

2518
01:50:41,719 --> 01:50:43,599
marketable it's something that they look

2519
01:50:43,599 --> 01:50:45,639
at when they come to buy into a project

2520
01:50:45,639 --> 01:50:48,760
that they have ample parking this

2521
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,079
project when built would probably have

2522
01:50:51,079 --> 01:50:53,159
more parking spaces than any most

2523
01:50:53,159 --> 01:50:55,480
projects that you have in the

2524
01:50:55,480 --> 01:50:58,599
city and it is compliant with the

2525
01:50:58,599 --> 01:51:01,960
code with regards to the retaining wall

2526
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,440
at 129th the retaining wall is necessary

2527
01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:06,560
so that we can drop the grade and retain

2528
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,840
this the street at 129th as it is today

2529
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,520
on top of that retaining wall would be

2530
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,199
an open rail fence it's not going to be

2531
01:51:13,199 --> 01:51:15,679
a solid 12 foot 12ft retaining wall it

2532
01:51:15,679 --> 01:51:17,400
be a five to six foot tall retaining

2533
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,480
wall with open rail fencing that would

2534
01:51:19,480 --> 01:51:21,760
have some Landscaping growing up both in

2535
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,639
front and interior to the wall visible

2536
01:51:24,639 --> 01:51:26,040
from

2537
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,239
129th um The Manor driveway opening that

2538
01:51:30,239 --> 01:51:32,000
Mr Wong and the neighbors that I met

2539
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,360
with had mentioned um we looked at

2540
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,119
trying to redirect that opening and

2541
01:51:38,119 --> 01:51:41,239
still maintain the required fire access

2542
01:51:41,239 --> 01:51:45,040
to another uh to to grela it wasn't

2543
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,360
possible because of the configuration

2544
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,000
and shape of that Northern parcel that

2545
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,880
you see on the map um there is a not

2546
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,639
that goes and I'm going to mention a

2547
01:51:54,639 --> 01:51:56,920
name that goes to in the property of the

2548
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,040
current Nursery that reaches towards

2549
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,480
Tony's house the neighbor to the direct

2550
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:05,920
north of the site that allows

2551
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:09,119
for the units the town homes to be built

2552
01:52:09,119 --> 01:52:11,400
on that portion of it and still maintain

2553
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,199
the circulation necessary for uh for

2554
01:52:14,199 --> 01:52:16,440
fire and for trash service but more more

2555
01:52:16,440 --> 01:52:20,960
importantly fire um the South site with

2556
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,960
the loop Street in it has enough room to

2557
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:25,880
create the loop system so it just has

2558
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,280
the one driveway in and

2559
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:31,159
out there are no stairs proposed to

2560
01:52:31,159 --> 01:52:33,440
129th so I think that the parking on

2561
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:36,880
129th is not of convenience for the

2562
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:38,880
residents future residents of this

2563
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,920
proposed project to park on 129th and

2564
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:43,400
walk all the way around the block to

2565
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:47,199
come around um the and that was by

2566
01:52:47,199 --> 01:52:50,239
Design to not provide pedestrian link up

2567
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:53,599
to 129th because they have ample Ada and

2568
01:52:53,599 --> 01:52:55,520
pedestrian link directly down to elaga

2569
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,040
Boulevard and they can get to haam

2570
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,639
Boulevard or Englewood or the high

2571
01:52:58,639 --> 01:53:02,079
school or whatever out on Elsa

2572
01:53:02,079 --> 01:53:05,709
Boulevard

2573
01:53:05,719 --> 01:53:08,159
um

2574
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:10,280
the the

2575
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:12,320
letter I think there may be some

2576
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,040
confusion regarding the city's public

2577
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,040
notice letter versus my letter that I

2578
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,239
sent out my letter was only sent to

2579
01:53:18,239 --> 01:53:19,480
those neighbors that are directly

2580
01:53:19,480 --> 01:53:21,400
adjacent to it it goes out in a standard

2581
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,199
envelope that says Malia homes on it it

2582
01:53:24,199 --> 01:53:25,840
maybe looks like any other piece of junk

2583
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:27,400
mail that we all get in our mail and it

2584
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:31,119
maybe have tossed out and thrown away um

2585
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:34,639
I count one two three four uh

2586
01:53:34,639 --> 01:53:37,040
individuals who spoke tonight saying

2587
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:38,360
they didn't receive that letter that

2588
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:40,560
were on the mailing list that I mailed

2589
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,520
out so whether or not they saw it it's

2590
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,040
been several months whether they tossed

2591
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:48,520
it looked at it whatever it may be um

2592
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,280
but those that are directly adjacent did

2593
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,239
receive some correspond for me asking

2594
01:53:53,239 --> 01:53:56,560
for their input and to make contact uh

2595
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,520
with me um and and to introduce myself

2596
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,480
to them um regarding the drainage Andor

2597
01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:04,079
storm water and or

2598
01:54:04,079 --> 01:54:06,040
infiltration um regarding the storm

2599
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,119
water that hits the site a certain

2600
01:54:08,119 --> 01:54:10,520
amount of water from a storm event is

2601
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,119
required to be retained on site as Mr

2602
01:54:13,119 --> 01:54:15,679
mlan mentioned um in this particular

2603
01:54:15,679 --> 01:54:19,480
instance we're doing uh both detention

2604
01:54:19,480 --> 01:54:21,920
on the site in underground storage pipes

2605
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,320
to retain that water volume and then it

2606
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,040
would go into what we call a dryw which

2607
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:30,119
is basically a chamber that goes down

2608
01:54:30,119 --> 01:54:32,920
about 35 to 40 feet into the Earth and

2609
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:34,800
the storm water would go into that and

2610
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,719
infiltrate back into the ground and

2611
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:38,639
hopefully recharge our groundwater Basin

2612
01:54:38,639 --> 01:54:41,400
to some degree heavier storms and so

2613
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,199
forth the codes require certain amount

2614
01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:45,400
of water be retained in a storm that

2615
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,079
continues on and on and on in 100e storm

2616
01:54:48,079 --> 01:54:50,239
all that storm drain water is contained

2617
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:52,520
and ultimately would run out to Elson

2618
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:56,229
Boulevard just like the property does

2619
01:54:56,239 --> 01:54:58,560
today is there anything that I missed

2620
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,960
that we would like to go back on

2621
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:04,920
yeah nope that's all that's it thank you

2622
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:06,360
any other any questions for the

2623
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,199
commission before I sit down nothing

2624
01:55:08,199 --> 01:55:10,560
else for the applicant I appreciate you

2625
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,159
thank you

2626
01:55:13,159 --> 01:55:15,239
okay Mr

2627
01:55:15,239 --> 01:55:17,800
McLean are there any documents to place

2628
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:19,480
into the administrative record yes

2629
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:21,840
several um several emails were received

2630
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:25,079
they were all provided to you both um by

2631
01:55:25,079 --> 01:55:27,440
email and also put on the

2632
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:30,040
Das

2633
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:32,599
okay to my fell Commissioners we have

2634
01:55:32,599 --> 01:55:35,079
any final comments on this item or

2635
01:55:35,079 --> 01:55:37,800
questions for staff I just want to make

2636
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,320
sure that we are clear when it comes to

2637
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,400
questions for staff on this particular

2638
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,719
thing the item that we are talking about

2639
01:55:44,719 --> 01:55:47,199
is the subdivision of the Lots so let's

2640
01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:48,199
make sure that we're keeping our

2641
01:55:48,199 --> 01:55:50,040
comments to that particular part of this

2642
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,639
conversation because the rest of that we

2643
01:55:52,639 --> 01:55:54,360
can't really even we can't give

2644
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,840
directives about so any questions no

2645
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:01,189
questions for

2646
01:56:01,199 --> 01:56:03,719
staff no

2647
01:56:03,719 --> 01:56:07,079
questions here okay um I will now

2648
01:56:07,079 --> 01:56:09,119
formally close the public hearing on

2649
01:56:09,119 --> 01:56:12,360
these items and do we have a

2650
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,760
motion uh I think I have some comments

2651
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:16,560
before a motion we go I have some

2652
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,079
comments too here we go first for all

2653
01:56:19,079 --> 01:56:20,719
the people in the room thank you so much

2654
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:23,520
for coming community participation and

2655
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,320
hear having your voice be heard is a

2656
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,639
crucial part of what we take pride in

2657
01:56:28,639 --> 01:56:31,400
being up here um I think there are days

2658
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,520
like this that it's it's frustrating to

2659
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:36,199
the folks that are sitting up here of

2660
01:56:36,199 --> 01:56:38,119
the ability and the power that we have

2661
01:56:38,119 --> 01:56:39,960
in this position and what we're able to

2662
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,040
vote on and what we aren't able to vote

2663
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,000
on um and today definitely is one of

2664
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,880
those days um what is put before us is

2665
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,119
taking a 15 lot parcel into a two lot

2666
01:56:50,119 --> 01:56:53,400
parcel it is I wish we we were voting on

2667
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:54,960
all the other things that were brought

2668
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,599
up here today because as a resident of

2669
01:56:57,599 --> 01:57:01,000
Hawthorne I feel what you are feeling um

2670
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,840
as I mentioned earlier in this session I

2671
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:07,119
I live very close to 360 and when that

2672
01:57:07,119 --> 01:57:10,440
was built that is 600 units um so

2673
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:11,880
there's a part of me that was like oh

2674
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,880
gosh I wish it was only 68 but that

2675
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:15,119
doesn't take away from what you are

2676
01:57:15,119 --> 01:57:16,880
feeling and please do not think I am

2677
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,360
taking anything away from what you are

2678
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:22,280
feeling because of this um if you anyone

2679
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,320
likes to talk to me about that it it it

2680
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,840
wasn't it didn't end up being even an

2681
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:29,159
fraction of what we thought it was going

2682
01:57:29,159 --> 01:57:32,000
to be it's worked out very well for us

2683
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,639
um and so if anyone wants to speak to me

2684
01:57:34,639 --> 01:57:36,280
about my experience with that offline

2685
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:38,639
I'm more than happy to do that but it it

2686
01:57:38,639 --> 01:57:41,199
wasn't as catastrophic as in the

2687
01:57:41,199 --> 01:57:43,000
beginning we thought it was it in in all

2688
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,320
honesty it wasn't catastrophic at all um

2689
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,719
but again this is that was my experience

2690
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:50,119
that is not your experience and I'm not

2691
01:57:50,119 --> 01:57:52,320
trying to take anything away from that

2692
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,360
so I just wanted to say thank you for

2693
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:56,440
coming expressing it and saying and

2694
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:57,920
sharing with you that I wish it was

2695
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,480
something else we were voting on today

2696
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,960
versus what it was because as it is our

2697
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:04,880
job to just vote and keep the the city

2698
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:06,719
accountable for what the laws they put

2699
01:58:06,719 --> 01:58:09,440
into place the city council makes the

2700
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,199
laws so again there are meetings every

2701
01:58:12,199 --> 01:58:14,599
two weeks for for that where you can

2702
01:58:14,599 --> 01:58:16,520
once again get on that agenda and can

2703
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,440
talk to them about this and what it is

2704
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,880
for the next phase of the building if

2705
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,639
this goes through tonight so please know

2706
01:58:24,639 --> 01:58:26,119
that that is something it's every other

2707
01:58:26,119 --> 01:58:28,320
Tuesday and you can get time in front of

2708
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:30,280
the city council because that is that is

2709
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,960
who put this on our docket this evening

2710
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:35,040
so with that again just thank you thank

2711
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,360
you to Mr Brown for coming and sharing

2712
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,000
everything that you are doing I do say

2713
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,000
that I am happy as a resident of

2714
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,639
hawthone that these are for for sale

2715
01:58:43,639 --> 01:58:45,840
homes and more home ownership because

2716
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,040
with that gets people in activism and

2717
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,239
volunteerism and bringing something to

2718
01:58:50,239 --> 01:58:52,159
this community just being temporary

2719
01:58:52,159 --> 01:58:55,320
residents coming in taking over a space

2720
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,560
and leaving it's pride of ownership it's

2721
01:58:57,560 --> 01:58:59,840
pride of community it's pride of being

2722
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:02,560
part of something and you never know

2723
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,159
maybe someone if we get lucky that is

2724
01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:06,199
sitting in this in this development will

2725
01:59:06,199 --> 01:59:08,679
be up here and you know being part of a

2726
01:59:08,679 --> 01:59:10,239
bigger part of our community to make it

2727
01:59:10,239 --> 01:59:12,920
better for all of us so um again easy

2728
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,360
for me to say up here we're not dealing

2729
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:15,920
with the situation but again thank you

2730
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,520
again for coming and no further

2731
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:22,199
comments I'm just going to picky Bank uh

2732
01:59:22,199 --> 01:59:23,719
on what she

2733
01:59:23,719 --> 01:59:25,840
said the reason why we're here and what

2734
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:26,960
decisions

2735
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:29,679
that what Our obligation

2736
01:59:29,679 --> 01:59:32,760
is I know a lot of you have concerns

2737
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,199
about certain things and so forth I do

2738
01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:37,560
understand that

2739
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:39,719
um the site development for the

2740
01:59:39,719 --> 01:59:45,280
residential purposes allowed here is by

2741
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,360
right so I know you guys have issues

2742
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:51,840
with building and so forth uh how things

2743
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:53,400
are going to pen out so forth

2744
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:55,960
constructions and whatever what have you

2745
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:56,679
that's going to be a different

2746
01:59:56,679 --> 01:59:59,079
department that takes care of that today

2747
01:59:59,079 --> 02:00:03,440
we're just here for the uh to combine or

2748
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:06,040
make uh two lots so I just want to make

2749
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:10,239
sure that we are clear on that um I've

2750
02:00:10,239 --> 02:00:12,360
seen different projects that come to the

2751
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:15,159
planning department I do have to say

2752
02:00:15,159 --> 02:00:19,440
from what I see and hopefully um it is

2753
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:22,000
what we're seeing today um I do

2754
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,599
appreciate the idea that instead of

2755
02:00:23,599 --> 02:00:28,360
putting 94 units it is 68 homes not

2756
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:30,320
Apartments so at

2757
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:33,800
least it coming to the city someone has

2758
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:35,400
or can take advantage of the fact that

2759
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,280
they can actually be a homeowner so that

2760
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:42,440
is something that is a major Pro um with

2761
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:44,079
this

2762
02:00:44,079 --> 02:00:49,000
project also um I do appreciate the fact

2763
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:52,159
that um

2764
02:00:52,159 --> 02:00:55,599
Malia Holmes

2765
02:00:55,599 --> 02:00:58,199
uh saw that there were some issues with

2766
02:00:58,199 --> 02:00:59,760
sidewalks and so forth he could actually

2767
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:04,079
had a five uh foot setback on

2768
02:01:04,079 --> 02:01:07,360
sidewalks they decided to do seven

2769
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:08,679
that's also a

2770
02:01:08,679 --> 02:01:11,719
pro also widening that street as well or

2771
02:01:11,719 --> 02:01:13,599
making that extra sidewalk I mean it's

2772
02:01:13,599 --> 02:01:16,320
just um that is greatly appreciated if

2773
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:18,719
that's what they're going to do also the

2774
02:01:18,719 --> 02:01:22,560
trees the vegetation instead of putting

2775
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:24,920
um smaller trees if they put 12T trees

2776
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:26,840
that's also was just a consideration for

2777
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:30,560
them um to maybe consider or at least we

2778
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,440
encourage that so we'll see where they

2779
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:36,880
go with that um but that is it for me

2780
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,239
and again thank you guys um we do

2781
02:01:39,239 --> 02:01:42,360
appreciate you guys coming um to the

2782
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:44,159
planning department and expressing your

2783
02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:47,280
concerns I will continue to ask anybody

2784
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:49,840
who ever has concerns to please come up

2785
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:52,560
let us hear you and we do appreciate you

2786
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:55,159
a lot for doing that it just gives us a

2787
02:01:55,159 --> 02:01:57,320
different perspective and Outlook and so

2788
02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:59,639
forth and uh you guys are our eyes some

2789
02:01:59,639 --> 02:02:01,760
sometimes we can't see certain things we

2790
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:04,520
can at least hear you and then we

2791
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:08,159
can see where we can we go from there so

2792
02:02:08,159 --> 02:02:12,679
that's it sure um I say most importantly

2793
02:02:12,679 --> 02:02:14,040
thank you to everyone who came out here

2794
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,400
to speak today uh particularly to voice

2795
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:17,960
your opinion about what's going on in

2796
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:19,760
your community in your neighborhood

2797
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:22,400
though it is monumentally important for

2798
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,360
all of us to come in and do this I do

2799
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:26,360
again I think something commissioner H

2800
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:27,920
Houston said that it is really important

2801
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,320
for us to hear is that a lot of the

2802
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:33,079
stuff when it comes from this point is

2803
02:02:33,079 --> 02:02:34,840
important for us to speak at at our city

2804
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:37,079
council meeting is for us to talk about

2805
02:02:37,079 --> 02:02:39,360
how we want to direct our city like we

2806
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,880
mentioned these are this overlay was

2807
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:43,599
done part of our general plan our

2808
02:02:43,599 --> 02:02:45,639
general plan was done a while ago and

2809
02:02:45,639 --> 02:02:47,639
this is why it's important for us to be

2810
02:02:47,639 --> 02:02:49,599
at every single one of these meetings

2811
02:02:49,599 --> 02:02:51,320
because two years ago when this was done

2812
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:52,719
it didn't really

2813
02:02:52,719 --> 02:02:55,000
it was just a thing we did now it's two

2814
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:57,239
years later and it impacts us so it's

2815
02:02:57,239 --> 02:02:59,400
the reason why we come and we stay up on

2816
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:01,040
these things when they're happening it's

2817
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:03,400
a reason why every time there's

2818
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,000
legislation that comes up we read it

2819
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:06,480
thoroughly and we make sure we

2820
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,079
understand what's happening because that

2821
02:03:09,079 --> 02:03:10,920
would prevent us a lot of us from being

2822
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:14,320
confused as we go forward in this um

2823
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:15,920
just share the same sentiments yeah some

2824
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:17,040
of these things are are disappointing

2825
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,159
when it comes to the way that um you

2826
02:03:19,159 --> 02:03:21,599
know that residents feel about them in

2827
02:03:21,599 --> 02:03:24,159
the time I do hope that everyone has the

2828
02:03:24,159 --> 02:03:25,719
same experience as commissioner Houston

2829
02:03:25,719 --> 02:03:28,360
where it's not that bad I really do

2830
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:30,119
really do hope that it comes out in a

2831
02:03:30,119 --> 02:03:33,679
great way but personally as we as we sit

2832
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:35,280
here we've seen a few projects that's

2833
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:38,320
come past that were only done for

2834
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,079
rentals we we fought as hard as we could

2835
02:03:41,079 --> 02:03:42,520
to try to get things that were not done

2836
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,040
for rentals and there's another space

2837
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,440
where we're hands tied so the fact that

2838
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:48,920
this time we're actually able to get

2839
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:50,880
some home ownership out of this I think

2840
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,440
is a is a great is a great piece here

2841
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:54,760
that's a big win that we should take

2842
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:57,960
away from and um with that I close there

2843
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:00,920
and I'll entertain the motion before we

2844
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:03,520
um have a motion there is one missing

2845
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:05,559
piece of information that I would like

2846
02:04:05,559 --> 02:04:08,040
to explain and that is given the

2847
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:10,280
constraints that we're under by state

2848
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:12,520
law you're probably wondering why are we

2849
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:15,400
having a hearing and the reason for that

2850
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:19,400
is that that there's a subdivision

2851
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,480
happening here and subdivisions are not

2852
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:23,760
all all going to occur inside of the

2853
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:26,440
housing overlay and other subdivisions

2854
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:28,639
that come forward in the city all of

2855
02:04:28,639 --> 02:04:30,280
these concerns and all of these issues

2856
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:31,920
that you've raised would be very

2857
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:33,760
relevant so that's why subdivisions

2858
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:36,239
require a public hearing even in a case

2859
02:04:36,239 --> 02:04:37,360
such as this when our hands are

2860
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,280
completely tied I just wanted to make

2861
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:41,040
that clear we're not doing this just for

2862
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:45,760
the fun of it um but there's a reason

2863
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:48,880
behind it that's all got you well with

2864
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,760
that we'll uh entertain a motion to

2865
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:54,430
entertain a

2866
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:58,639
motion second motion to approve I second

2867
02:04:58,639 --> 02:05:02,040
okay uh Vice chairperson cohens yes

2868
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:04,320
commissioner hon yes and chairperson

2869
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:10,510
Richard yes okay this subdivision map is

2870
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:12,320
approved

2871
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:15,920
okay administrative items no items items

2872
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:18,199
to be placed on future

2873
02:05:18,199 --> 02:05:21,760
agendas or did I skip something

2874
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:24,320
no um we do have at this time the design

2875
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:27,480
review that you continued previously um

2876
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,079
was originally intended to be on the

2877
02:05:29,079 --> 02:05:31,239
July 17th meeting I think it's not going

2878
02:05:31,239 --> 02:05:35,239
to make that meeting um so we have

2879
02:05:35,239 --> 02:05:37,559
nothing concrete planned for that July

2880
02:05:37,559 --> 02:05:39,040
17th meeting but that might change in

2881
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:41,800
the next two weeks

2882
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:45,440
okay okay moving on on along we got

2883
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:46,880
commissioner report so we're going to

2884
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:48,800
start here with commissioner Houston

2885
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:49,880
roll

2886
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:55,189
around nothing

2887
02:05:55,199 --> 02:05:57,000
planning sorry I keep on turning this

2888
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,400
off and on um Planning Commission thank

2889
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,239
you for

2890
02:06:01,239 --> 02:06:04,360
um for doing uh your great work

2891
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:07,760
appreciate it thank you for um giving us

2892
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:09,040
all this information that we need in

2893
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:12,159
order to make our decisions so um just

2894
02:06:12,159 --> 02:06:14,119
wanted to say that but that's

2895
02:06:14,119 --> 02:06:17,159
it okay well happy Fourth of July

2896
02:06:17,159 --> 02:06:20,000
everybody there we go that was my very

2897
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:22,199
brief note was where thank you all for

2898
02:06:22,199 --> 02:06:24,960
being here the right ahead of your long

2899
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,440
weekend I hope you all you

2900
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:30,320
know this guy okay well not a long

2901
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:32,639
weekend for all this Z we'll go that I

2902
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:34,400
appreciate you guys for spending here

2903
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,559
taking some of your time here here with

2904
02:06:36,559 --> 02:06:39,040
us today again appreciate the residents

2905
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,599
I know everyone's is heading out here we

2906
02:06:40,599 --> 02:06:42,159
appreciate you guys for coming out

2907
02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:43,800
letting us know how you feel about these

2908
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,199
things um and with that I won't hold you

2909
02:06:47,199 --> 02:06:49,840
guys in here too long so I call this

2910
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:52,079
meeting adjourned at

2911
02:06:52,079 --> 02:06:53,719
oh small

2912
02:06:53,719 --> 02:06:57,679
note this clock time is 7:50 here and

2913
02:06:57,679 --> 02:07:00,000
it's 8:08 up there so I'm trying to

2914
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:02,199
figure out what time it is time go by

2915
02:07:02,199 --> 02:07:03,639
your phone that's the that's always

2916
02:07:03,639 --> 02:07:06,320
accurate it's 807 sorry actually sorry

2917
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:10,119
that did I do have one one actual

2918
02:07:10,119 --> 02:07:12,719
question and I just thought about that

2919
02:07:12,719 --> 02:07:14,520
something I noticed when we did the sub

2920
02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:15,880
because of this project when we're doing

2921
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:18,239
the subdivision uh we at the reason I

2922
02:07:18,239 --> 02:07:19,599
brought up the question about other

2923
02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:21,840
projects that we had that were only

2924
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:25,199
allowed to be rental is there

2925
02:07:25,199 --> 02:07:27,880
any is there any way that we can utilize

2926
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:32,440
this this set of um the set of zoning to

2927
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:34,440
encourage more projects that come in

2928
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:38,440
that allow for or or only allow to do s

2929
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:39,840
for sale because right now what we're

2930
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:41,800
doing is we're we're producing this so

2931
02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:43,280
that way they can sell it but it seems

2932
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:44,760
like there may be a lot of spaces in the

2933
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,280
city where they're already set up to

2934
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,719
just go these will allow you to do

2935
02:07:48,719 --> 02:07:50,800
rentals and thus we don't have we don't

2936
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:52,719
even have to have have this conversation

2937
02:07:52,719 --> 02:07:54,559
is there something we can do to kind of

2938
02:07:54,559 --> 02:07:57,800
promote there there is the possibility

2939
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,400
to create incentives for someone to

2940
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,760
choose the ownership option um we we

2941
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:05,840
we've can look at that we've have been

2942
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:07,840
kind of looking at that for a while now

2943
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:09,440
we um we're also looking at other

2944
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:11,199
incentives such as law consolidations

2945
02:08:11,199 --> 02:08:13,159
and so forth we haven't gotten around to

2946
02:08:13,159 --> 02:08:15,960
codifying those yet um we can't make a

2947
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:18,679
requirement per se um for two reasons

2948
02:08:18,679 --> 02:08:21,960
one um it it's it's a property right to

2949
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:24,079
be able to sell or to you know have an

2950
02:08:24,079 --> 02:08:27,719
apartment and the other is that we would

2951
02:08:27,719 --> 02:08:31,320
be anticipating the housing market in

2952
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:33,920
the city in you know in a year from now

2953
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,480
or two years from now and that's not

2954
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:37,960
really anything that we're qualified to

2955
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:41,159
do any of us so builders on the other

2956
02:08:41,159 --> 02:08:43,920
hand have a much better um sense of the

2957
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:47,040
pulse of the of the market and you know

2958
02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:48,599
and I think the applicant had even

2959
02:08:48,599 --> 02:08:50,800
mentioned that if sales are good things

2960
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:52,000
will go faster

2961
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:53,800
right but if sales are slow then things

2962
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:55,559
will take longer they just you know

2963
02:08:55,559 --> 02:08:59,599
that's just the way housing works and

2964
02:08:59,599 --> 02:09:01,520
none of us in this room can tell you

2965
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:03,719
whether or not the demand that's going

2966
02:09:03,719 --> 02:09:05,719
to come up in two years or something is

2967
02:09:05,719 --> 02:09:07,599
going to be for renders or owners we're

2968
02:09:07,599 --> 02:09:09,599
all banking on it being owners and

2969
02:09:09,599 --> 02:09:11,800
hoping so especially the applicant I'm

2970
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:15,119
sure but that's the reason why we don't

2971
02:09:15,119 --> 02:09:16,679
want to get to the point where we're

2972
02:09:16,679 --> 02:09:19,520
dictating one or the other makes

2973
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:23,360
sense well thank you okay so we call the

2974
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:28,920
meeting adjourned at 809 p.m. 8:09